The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2451

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00:00:12.000 Cheryl.

00:00:13.000 Joe.

00:00:14.000 So good to see you.

00:00:15.000 It's really good to see you.

00:00:16.000 What's happening?

00:00:17.000 Everything.

00:00:18.000 Are you good?

00:00:19.000 Yeah, I am.

00:00:19.000 You alright?

00:00:20.000 I'm good now.

00:00:21.000 Yeah.

00:00:22.000 Woo.

00:00:23.000 It's been a, it's been a few years.

00:00:23.000 Woo.

00:00:26.000 I thought about you the moment Bobby said he was going to run for president.

00:00:30.000 You were the first thing I thought about.

00:00:32.000 Thank you.

00:00:32.000 Because I'm a huge fan of Curb Your Enthusiasm.

00:00:35.000 I thought you were amazing.

00:00:36.000 On that show.

00:00:36.000 Oh, thank you.

00:00:37.000 Thank you.

00:00:37.000 It's such a good show.

00:00:38.000 Thank you.

00:00:38.000 It's maybe one of the greatest comedy shows of all time.

00:00:42.000 And I was like, she's not built for this.

00:00:46.000 It turns out I'm not built for this.

00:00:48.000 Nobody is.

00:00:49.000 Trump is the only person I've ever met that somehow or another survives it and seems exactly the same.

00:00:54.000 But most people who are attacked like that, it's just like it is a natural human instinct when you are rejected by your tribe to feel terrified and filled with anxiety.

00:01:04.000 But that's why people do it.

00:01:06.000 And that's what encourages groupthink because you're terrified and you wind up agreeing to things that are fucking insane.

00:01:12.000 Because you don't even know what you're agreeing to.

00:01:12.000 Yeah.

00:01:14.000 You just don't want to be rejected by your tribe.

00:01:16.000 And this is how they keep people involved in these where ideologies eventually become cults.

00:01:22.000 And I think you can make a really good argument at both the right and the left that in a certain section of each one of these political parties, it's a cult.

00:01:22.000 Yes.

00:01:33.000 Yes, because they're, you know, most of us are sort of in the center.

00:01:39.000 Right.

00:01:39.000 Yes.

00:01:40.000 And then you have the 10% on this side, the 10% on this side that are so extreme and loud, and they keep everybody fired up.

00:01:48.000 And it is cult-like.

00:01:51.000 Right.

00:01:52.000 Yeah, it's weird.

00:01:53.000 It's weird to watch intelligent people get captured in it.

00:01:57.000 I was just watching this video with Bill Maher and Bill Maher had Adam Carolla on.

00:02:01.000 And Bill Maher was talking about how Jimmy Kimmel won't talk to him anymore.

00:02:05.000 Like they have this spat because of politics.

00:02:07.000 Bill Maher is very much a left-wing person.

00:02:10.000 He has been his whole life.

00:02:11.000 He has not changed his opinions at all.

00:02:14.000 But he's always been very reasonable and willing to criticize the left as well as the right.

00:02:18.000 Yes.

00:02:19.000 And I don't know if it was because he had dinner with Trump and he met with him, which is just crazy.

00:02:24.000 You're not supposed to talk to people that are the president of the United States.

00:02:28.000 It is crazy.

00:02:29.000 I know I was just talking to Bill Maher and we were talking about this.

00:02:32.000 Oh, yeah, because he was like, you said exactly what you said.

00:02:38.000 I sat down and had dinner with the president and people went insane.

00:02:42.000 Yeah.

00:02:42.000 And so people, listen, I know that feeling because even when Bobby started running for president, even when he started running as a Democrat, people were angry.

00:02:53.000 Well, they're Democrats were angry.

00:02:55.000 They're just mean.

00:02:57.000 When it comes to politics, people just get so mean.

00:03:00.000 It's like these are not the type of people you ever want in any position of power.

00:03:04.000 People, the least charitable, most vicious people, the moment you are running against them in a political party, they will pull out all the stops, take things out of context, lie about you.

00:03:14.000 Yes.

00:03:16.000 Even if you're in their party.

00:03:18.000 It doesn't matter.

00:03:19.000 It doesn't matter.

00:03:20.000 100%.

00:03:21.000 Which was, that was challenging because, you know, like Hollywood is competitive and it's hard and you are, you know, you're hustling, you're working really hard, but you're not trying to tear other people down.

00:03:39.000 Right.

00:03:40.000 So politics, as soon as you say, as soon as he said, I'm, well, no, I'm sorry.

00:03:46.000 Before that, people were coming after him.

00:03:49.000 They were always coming after him.

00:03:50.000 They were always coming after him.

00:03:52.000 But it kicked up a notch when he decided to run for president.

00:03:56.000 Oh, big notch, I'm sure.

00:03:58.000 And it was just, and it's just weird, you know.

00:03:58.000 Yeah.

00:04:02.000 And there was like a feeling of doom for me.

00:04:08.000 Bobby's tough.

00:04:10.000 He's so friggin tough.

00:04:12.000 Well, they've been coming after him for like 20 years.

00:04:14.000 Yeah.

00:04:15.000 So he's just developed a rhino scandal.

00:04:17.000 And I, you know, and I was, I was like, oh, my God.

00:04:17.000 Yeah.

00:04:21.000 I'm not going to make it.

00:04:24.000 You know, a good indication of how they come after themselves, each other rather, is during the debate with Kamala and Biden, when Kamala was accusing Biden of, at the very least, sexual assault, right?

00:04:36.000 Like this.

00:04:37.000 It's sort of creepy.

00:04:39.000 It seemed like she was accusing him of sexual assault.

00:04:39.000 Yeah.

00:04:42.000 And then when they confronted her on it, she's like, it was a debate.

00:04:47.000 That's literally what she said.

00:04:49.000 That is the really strange thing about politics that I'm still getting used to is they will viciously attack each other.

00:04:59.000 And then a minute later in the hallway, it's like, hey, how's it going?

00:05:04.000 And I'm still in shock, you know, I'm still angry about what just happened in there.

00:05:11.000 And they're already over it.

00:05:12.000 And they're already like, yeah, that's politics.

00:05:14.000 That's what we do.

00:05:15.000 Did you ever see the debates with Mitt Romney and Barack Obama?

00:05:19.000 I'm sure I did, but it wasn't.

00:05:20.000 I see if you could pull some of that up.

00:05:22.000 God, why can't we go back to that?

00:05:24.000 Or was it like civilized?

00:05:26.000 Oh, completely.

00:05:27.000 Yeah.

00:05:28.000 For Mitt Romney, Mitt Romney's like, he's Mormon, like super religious guy, never swears, probably doesn't do anything, right?

00:05:35.000 Yeah.

00:05:35.000 So he's like super polite.

00:05:37.000 Yes.

00:05:38.000 And then Barack Obama, because, you know, they're matching each other's energy.

00:05:42.000 He was very polite too.

00:05:43.000 They disagreed on many things, but they were talking about what they wanted to do.

00:05:48.000 Not how this guy's a piece of shit and they've been stealing and robbing and this and that.

00:05:48.000 Right.

00:05:53.000 Or, you know, how they look like Trump.

00:05:58.000 Which is crazy when you look like that.

00:06:01.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:06:02.000 It's like the guy makes fun of his own hair.

00:06:04.000 Like he makes fun of his comb over.

00:06:06.000 It's like, here it is.

00:06:08.000 Governor Romney and the University of Denver for your hospitality.

00:06:11.000 The only person this stage is a convicted felon who's new to.

00:06:14.000 Okay, this is just a comparison.

00:06:15.000 Yeah.

00:06:16.000 That was the Biden ones with Trump were the worst because they were trying to map Trump's energy, match Trump's energy.

00:06:22.000 Well, they didn't know how to debate him.

00:06:24.000 Yeah.

00:06:24.000 That's what he does well.

00:06:27.000 If you wanted to diffuse that, which you would say is like, this is not productive for anybody.

00:06:31.000 Right.

00:06:32.000 Like, if you want to have like a completely separate conversation about who's a bigger piece of shit and you want to do a podcast and you and me talk about how I think you're a piece of shit, you think I'm a piece of shit.

00:06:41.000 But you have X amount of time to say how you're going to run the country.

00:06:41.000 That's one thing.

00:06:47.000 Country.

00:06:47.000 And what you think is wrong with the policies.

00:06:51.000 What you think is wrong with where we're spending money.

00:06:53.000 What you think was all the above.

00:06:55.000 Yes.

00:06:55.000 Yeah.

00:06:56.000 That's what you're supposed to do.

00:06:57.000 Yes.

00:06:57.000 And the idea that you can't win that way is crazy.

00:07:00.000 It is crazy.

00:07:02.000 It's crazy.

00:07:03.000 And it's really weird, too, that a lot, some, not all, politicians really work on, I got to get a catchphrase in there.

00:07:13.000 Well, Trump's really good at that.

00:07:15.000 Like he names people, Crooked Hillary, Sleepy Joe.

00:07:18.000 It works.

00:07:20.000 It did work.

00:07:20.000 It works.

00:07:21.000 I mean, because people get so thrown off, they don't know how to respond.

00:07:26.000 Like you said, that's what they should say.

00:07:29.000 But they just get so thrown off that it's just paralyzing.

00:07:35.000 Well, at least in this day and age, there's a method through social media for you to respond if something you think is inaccurate or whatever, you respond.

00:07:44.000 But there was a time where there was nothing.

00:07:47.000 And whatever political party was in power, they controlled everything.

00:07:51.000 They controlled all the news stories about you.

00:07:53.000 They controlled everything.

00:07:55.000 There's a great story with Hunter S. Thompson and Ed Muskie's running for president.

00:07:59.000 And Hunter S. Thompson makes this crazy rumor about how he's addicted to Ibogaine.

00:08:03.000 And he has a Brazilian witch doctor who comes in and treats him.

00:08:06.000 And this guy literally cracks on the campaign trail because Hunter S. Thompson said this, made up this crazy story about him.

00:08:12.000 And this guy, you see him having nervous breakdowns on the campaign trail.

00:08:16.000 Like his subsequent speeches are all like nuts and he falls off.

00:08:20.000 But he was like a frontrunner at one point in time.

00:08:20.000 Yeah.

00:08:22.000 Or at least he was very competitive and it just killed him.

00:08:27.000 Well, it's the power of words.

00:08:28.000 Yes.

00:08:29.000 Which, by the way, you know, when Bobby decided to run and he and I talk about this in my book, Unscripted, when he came on your podcast, it was a game changer, right?

00:08:41.000 Because everything that you're saying is true.

00:08:46.000 And the press was going hard.

00:08:48.000 They still do.

00:08:50.000 They were going hard at Bobby.

00:08:51.000 Like, he's this, he's that.

00:08:53.000 Here's what he thinks.

00:08:53.000 Here's what he represents.

00:08:56.000 And then he came on your podcast and you guys had a conversation.

00:09:02.000 And, you know, you're curious and you're a great listener and you're not judgmental.

00:09:02.000 Yeah.

00:09:10.000 And people heard what Bobby had to say and it changed everything for him.

00:09:15.000 Well, I think it helped also that I knew who he was.

00:09:17.000 I read his book and I had also had negative opinions of him before I actually read what he said.

00:09:24.000 Interesting.

00:09:26.000 Yeah.

00:09:26.000 No, what were your opinions?

00:09:28.000 So before the pandemic, before the pandemic, I was firmly on the side of science.

00:09:33.000 I was much more of a left-wing leaning person.

00:09:36.000 I just assumed these people are running universities, these academics, whatever they said was accurate.

00:09:41.000 Everybody else was a fool and they believed in snake oil and witchcraft, right?

00:09:45.000 This is what I thought.

00:09:46.000 And then during the pandemic, I was like, okay, these experts are clearly lying.

00:09:51.000 I know they're lying because they're literally lying about me.

00:09:54.000 Right.

00:09:55.000 Which was crazy.

00:09:56.000 So when you're in it and you know who you are and you know how you're feeling and what your body is doing and other people, news outlets are saying, uh-uh, that's not true.

00:10:08.000 It's got to feel so weird.

00:10:09.000 Well, it felt really weird because they weren't addressing the fact that I was healthy.

00:10:13.000 That was crazy.

00:10:14.000 So you're talking about this massive pandemic and you've got this guy in his 50s.

00:10:19.000 You know, I'm supposed to be a vulnerable person and I'm in my 50s and I got over it in a couple of days and I'm telling everybody how I did it.

00:10:25.000 And they're saying that I'm some quack who's taking veterinary medicine.

00:10:28.000 Right.

00:10:29.000 Which is just a, it was just a flat out lie, but it was weird.

00:10:32.000 It was weird to watch.

00:10:32.000 Yeah.

00:10:33.000 It didn't like, it didn't give me anxiety.

00:10:36.000 It made me laugh a lot.

00:10:38.000 I laughed a lot.

00:10:39.000 Because fortunately, during this entire time period, I was doing stand-up and hanging out with comedians.

00:10:39.000 Yeah.

00:10:43.000 We all thought it was so funny.

00:10:45.000 Like, bro, CNN is so full of shit.

00:10:47.000 This is crazy.

00:10:48.000 You never would have believed it.

00:10:49.000 Yeah.

00:10:50.000 And you have this outlet and you were able to talk about it and tell people.

00:10:54.000 So it's like, they thought they were picking on me because they thought they were the bully.

00:10:59.000 But during the whole exchange, they went, oh my God, this thing's way bigger than we thought it was.

00:11:03.000 Yeah.

00:11:04.000 So my show was like 10 times more listeners and viewers than their show, which is crazy.

00:11:10.000 Because all I can do is come on here and go, are you fucking out of your, do I need to sue you people?

00:11:14.000 You guys are cracked.

00:11:16.000 It is crazy.

00:11:17.000 It's crazy.

00:11:18.000 So, yeah, so you saw things firsthand that you hadn't experienced before.

00:11:23.000 And then when I read Bobby's book, one of the things that I knew about Bobby before Fauci book or The Real Anthony Fauci, which was just I would read it, I would listen to it on audio tape in the sauna.

00:11:23.000 Yeah.

00:11:37.000 So I'm sitting there cooking at 196 degrees.

00:11:41.000 Well, you're already kind of freaking out.

00:11:43.000 You can only stay in there so long before you die.

00:11:45.000 You know, that's the whole key of the sauna.

00:11:47.000 Like, you get it way before you're going to die.

00:11:49.000 That's when you get out.

00:11:50.000 But if you stayed in there for a few hours, you're a dead man.

00:11:53.000 And so I'm kind of freaking out already.

00:11:55.000 And I'm like, this is the nuttiest story of one guy and his cohorts who have been doing this kind of shit.

00:12:04.000 The same shit they were doing during the pandemic, suppressing other medication, promoting something that they had that they were going to make a massive profit off of, gaslighting people, lying about the data, lying about, this is the thing they did during the AIDS crisis.

00:12:17.000 Yeah.

00:12:18.000 And they're footnote after footnote, reference after reference.

00:12:22.000 Exactly.

00:12:22.000 Saying, this is, here's this, here's that.

00:12:25.000 I'm not making this.

00:12:26.000 No lawsuits.

00:12:27.000 No one's tried to sue him.

00:12:29.000 And this is one thing I keep bringing up.

00:12:31.000 If that was lies, people would have, they would document how it's not true.

00:12:36.000 They would show the actual paperwork.

00:12:37.000 They'd show the actual data.

00:12:39.000 This is how it's on.

00:12:39.000 No, it's all true.

00:12:41.000 You go, well, how do I not know this?

00:12:43.000 And what kind of irresponsible journalism do we have in this country where this has happened?

00:12:48.000 And it takes this one guy to publish this book before people start talking about it.

00:12:53.000 I also knew his work as an environmental attorney.

00:12:56.000 And I think that's a very important thing for people to realize.

00:12:59.000 Like what he did was essentially help clean up the East River.

00:13:03.000 And if it wasn't for him and his work, that would still be probably a polluted shithole unless somebody else came along and stopped these corporations from polluting the river and then forced them to clean it up.

00:13:15.000 Right.

00:13:16.000 That's romantic.

00:13:18.000 And by the way, you know, when people talk about Bobby and they want to paint him as somebody who is trying to hurt people or kill people or whatever that sounds like or looks like, when you look at his career and who he is and what he's accomplished, yeah, he spent a lot of time suing huge corporations because they're polluting waterways because it's hurting people, killing people, giving people cancer.

00:13:47.000 So why would he spend all of his life fighting for people, fighting for individuals, you know, and then suddenly change and want to really hurt a lot of people?

00:14:01.000 It just doesn't track.

00:14:02.000 It doesn't make sense at all.

00:14:04.000 Well, the whole thing came about because of vaccines and his questioning of the vaccine narrative, which is now way more mainstream.

00:14:11.000 Because I, like many people, said the scientists must be correct.

00:14:15.000 Everybody else is a kook.

00:14:16.000 You got to get your vaccines.

00:14:18.000 You got to do whatever you have to do.

00:14:19.000 But I was also pretty aware of, I had a friend who had a child that they vaccinated him.

00:14:27.000 And when they vaccinated him, he stopped responding and he never responded again.

00:14:30.000 He became nonverbal autistic for his whole life.

00:14:34.000 And he firmly believed it was because of the child's reaction to the vaccines.

00:14:40.000 That's a taboo to bring up.

00:14:42.000 When you bring that up, people immediately back off.

00:14:45.000 They get scared.

00:14:45.000 They get nervous.

00:14:47.000 I firmly believe that when you have this sort of a visceral reaction to any sort of a subject like that, without a rational examining of what is objective truth, when you have that visceral reaction, something's happened.

00:15:02.000 You've been co-opted.

00:15:03.000 There's a thought in your head that you can't question this or you'll be ostracized.

00:15:07.000 You'll be cast out of the crew, the tribe, you're out.

00:15:11.000 Yeah, and that's what everyone's afraid of.

00:15:13.000 That is what, because that is what happens, as we've seen.

00:15:17.000 But to that point, you know, as mother, it's so frustrating to hear parents say, this is my experience.

00:15:30.000 This is the experience I had with my own child.

00:15:32.000 I'm with this child every day.

00:15:34.000 After the vaccine, there was a change.

00:15:36.000 This is what happened.

00:15:37.000 This is my experience.

00:15:38.000 For people to get mad at them for even, like you're saying, talking about it, they're not allowed to talk about the experience they had or ask why it happened or let people talk to each other to see if they have shared experiences that can lead us to something better.

00:16:00.000 Right.

00:16:00.000 It's crazy.

00:16:02.000 It's crazy.

00:16:03.000 And it shouldn't be, it shouldn't be accepted.

00:16:06.000 We shouldn't communicate like that.

00:16:08.000 It's not smart.

00:16:10.000 We've been lied to so many times.

00:16:13.000 I mean, why would you just assume that that stopped, that that has ended?

00:16:18.000 You know, if you just go back and think about all the different things that both the government and, of course, pharmaceutical drug companies have lied about, or at least been wrong about, the amount of drugs that they had to pull, it's substantial.

00:16:31.000 It's a giant chunk.

00:16:32.000 Well, that's the question.

00:16:33.000 So we understand and accept that there have been drugs out there that everybody thought were good, were helpful.

00:16:43.000 And then 10 years later, 20 years later, the companies, scientists, whomever realize, oh, actually, they're doing more harm than good.

00:16:53.000 What about thalidomide?

00:16:54.000 Like what it did with birth defects and children.

00:16:57.000 It's crazy.

00:16:57.000 It's, you know what?

00:16:58.000 They used to prescribe that to mothers.

00:17:00.000 Well, it's even like getting x-rayed.

00:17:03.000 Yeah.

00:17:03.000 You used to have mothers, you know, that were pregnant x-rayed to see how the baby was doing for a long time.

00:17:12.000 It would be cool if it gave the baby superpowers, but it never does.

00:17:15.000 It only happens in the science fiction.

00:17:16.000 Yeah, that never works out on the good way.

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00:18:32.000 Yeah, yeah, it's intense.

00:18:33.000 Do you ever see those images of what happened to the women that used to work in those x-ray offices?

00:18:39.000 So every day they used to have to turn on the x-ray machine, they would x-ray their hand to make sure that it would work.

00:18:44.000 And they all got like hand cancer.

00:18:46.000 Oh, it's horrible.

00:18:47.000 It's weird because they have one hand that looks normal and one hand that looks like a wicked witch hand.

00:18:52.000 Right.

00:18:53.000 See if you find some of those.

00:18:54.000 It's very strict.

00:18:55.000 Because we didn't know any better.

00:18:57.000 Because we didn't know.

00:18:57.000 Right.

00:18:59.000 Nobody was out to kill anybody, to murder, to do harm, but it was doing harm.

00:19:05.000 So let's take a step back, readjust, and do something different.

00:19:10.000 Well, the extreme amount of money that pharmaceutical drug companies have put into making sure that they're in control of the narrative, or at least they're influencing the narrative.

00:19:19.000 It's like this is a slave.

00:19:21.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:19:21.000 Whoa.

00:19:24.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:19:26.000 Crazy.

00:19:27.000 And that's just from x-raying your hand.

00:19:30.000 They would use it to calibrate the machine every day.

00:19:32.000 Oh, my God.

00:19:34.000 That lady cooked her hand.

00:19:36.000 Isn't that awful?

00:19:37.000 Oh, it's so spooky.

00:19:38.000 That's really crazy.

00:19:40.000 Ya.

00:19:41.000 What are the you're not going to have the answer to this, but what are the things that we have to go through in the airport?

00:19:49.000 Oh, the chairs.

00:19:50.000 That's radio.

00:19:51.000 Yeah, that's like a radio frequency, right?

00:19:54.000 What is that?

00:19:55.000 Let's pull that up.

00:19:56.000 I do not think that that's dangerous.

00:19:57.000 But look, there's a lot of people that think Wi-Fi is dangerous.

00:20:00.000 There's a lot of people that think that 5G is dangerous.

00:20:02.000 They think that EMF from even electric cars is dangerous.

00:20:06.000 There's people telling you you shouldn't have airbuds in your ears.

00:20:09.000 You know, you should only listen with a cord or a speaker if you can.

00:20:13.000 Right.

00:20:14.000 Well, it makes sense.

00:20:14.000 Yeah.

00:20:15.000 You've got things going directly into your head through your brain.

00:20:20.000 It's probably not the best thing for you.

00:20:20.000 Yeah.

00:20:22.000 But I mean, it's like, how many people are wearing AirPods and how little damage is it actually doing?

00:20:28.000 That's the question.

00:20:29.000 It's like, what is the real issue?

00:20:31.000 Most TSA body scanners use millimeter wave radio waves.

00:20:34.000 Okay.

00:20:35.000 So not x-rays and do not add to your ionizing radiation exposure.

00:20:41.000 So it's not x-ray base, right?

00:20:42.000 It's a radio wave.

00:20:44.000 But is it what is it?

00:20:46.000 Is it dangerous?

00:20:46.000 How does the dose compare to a flight?

00:20:48.000 What is that?

00:20:49.000 X-ray scanners?

00:20:51.000 That's just scanners.

00:20:52.000 Just have blind faith that this is okay.

00:20:56.000 Follow-up.

00:20:58.000 Millimeter wave scanner radiation.

00:21:01.000 Is it dangerous?

00:21:02.000 Is there any dangerous aspects of it?

00:21:06.000 Health and radiation protection agencies note that doses from older backscatter x-ray scanners were extremely low.

00:21:13.000 Whatever.

00:21:14.000 Meanwhile, they fucking don't go anywhere near it when they turn it on.

00:21:17.000 When you go to the dentist's office, they hide behind the screen.

00:21:19.000 People went to the other room and you're like, what?

00:21:21.000 They're in a fucking bunker right next to my head.

00:21:24.000 And they make you wear like a lead vest over your body.

00:21:27.000 Yeah, it's intense.

00:21:29.000 Do they still do that?

00:21:30.000 Yes.

00:21:31.000 Yeah.

00:21:32.000 I haven't gotten one of those with the lead vest in a while.

00:21:32.000 Yes.

00:21:34.000 No, and you're right.

00:21:36.000 They go into the other room and they're like, don't move.

00:21:39.000 You're just sitting there with a, you know.

00:21:41.000 If there's any worries anyone should have about these body scanners, let's say.

00:21:45.000 I mean, I don't want to cause, I'm not causing any outrage here.

00:21:48.000 I'm just curious.

00:21:49.000 Yeah, it's just.

00:21:50.000 I'm just fine.

00:21:51.000 I was like, the TSA ones are dangerous.

00:21:53.000 Okay.

00:21:53.000 Major health agencies did not see any proven health risk at the levels used, but people still raise a few practical concerns.

00:22:00.000 So millimeter wave scanners use low power, non-ionizing radio waves.

00:22:04.000 Studies and reviews have not found harmful effects at the power levels used in airport screening.

00:22:10.000 Sensitive groups, analysis that modeled risk for children, pregnant people.

00:22:15.000 Why does it say pregnant people?

00:22:15.000 What?

00:22:18.000 Which kind of people can get pregnant?

00:22:20.000 Do you think, hey, AI, hey, super genius.

00:22:23.000 You think maybe it's women, you fucking asshole?

00:22:26.000 And frequent flyers have still found that low-added risk from backscatter scanners, far below routine medical x-rays or even the radiation from flying itself.

00:22:36.000 Well, that is a thing, too.

00:22:38.000 Radiation in the plane.

00:22:38.000 Oh, right.

00:22:40.000 Flying when you're flying.

00:22:41.000 I mean, there's so many things.

00:22:42.000 Isn't it just we're all going down?

00:22:45.000 Put that into perplexity, please.

00:22:47.000 What is why is flying?

00:22:52.000 Why does that give you radiation?

00:22:53.000 Is it because you're closer to the sun?

00:22:54.000 Like, what is it?

00:22:56.000 Yes.

00:22:56.000 Less protection.

00:22:57.000 Yeah.

00:22:58.000 Is that what it is?

00:22:59.000 Yes.

00:23:00.000 Is that all it is?

00:23:01.000 Yeah, mostly.

00:23:01.000 I mean, you're up high?

00:23:02.000 Yeah, there's not a lot of stuff to diffuse it.

00:23:04.000 Less air.

00:23:05.000 Something I saw someone bring up recently, too, having those screens right behind your head because there's one in every single one.

00:23:05.000 Right.

00:23:10.000 Oh, yeah.

00:23:11.000 Oh, that's got to be bad for you.

00:23:12.000 Millimeter away in your head.

00:23:13.000 Well, Wi-Fi on the plane, it's like just bouncing around.

00:23:16.000 Yeah.

00:23:17.000 Yeah, Wi-Fi.

00:23:18.000 Well, they used to be able to smoke.

00:23:19.000 Which is crazy.

00:23:20.000 I was just, the plane that I was on had the no-smoking sign.

00:23:24.000 I would feel super uncomfortable getting on that plane.

00:23:26.000 It's not a good feeling.

00:23:28.000 Yeah.

00:23:29.000 When you're like, okay.

00:23:30.000 How old's this fucking plane?

00:23:32.000 They used to have little ashtrays.

00:23:34.000 Yes.

00:23:34.000 Remember those?

00:23:34.000 In the seats?

00:23:35.000 And that's really crazy.

00:23:37.000 And a typical commercial flight, you get a small dose of extra cosmic radiation on the order of what you expect from a medical x-ray spread out over several hours.

00:23:46.000 Whoa.

00:23:47.000 So every time you fly, it's like getting x-rayed?

00:23:50.000 That's kind of crazy.

00:23:51.000 What happens to pilots?

00:23:52.000 Okay, that's a question.

00:23:55.000 Do pilots have any health risks from radiation exposure while flying?

00:23:55.000 That's a good question.

00:24:01.000 Yeah, it's a good question.

00:24:04.000 Because I would imagine if you're flying all the time.

00:24:06.000 They're the ones that would.

00:24:07.000 It's like getting an x-ray every day.

00:24:10.000 That's, I mean, everything is killing us, right?

00:24:15.000 That's why I came on.

00:24:16.000 I wanted to hear what's going to kill us first.

00:24:19.000 There's so many things.

00:24:20.000 Yes.

00:24:20.000 This is going to be like a meteorite that's going to hit us first.

00:24:25.000 But there's a lot of stuff keeping us alive longer now, too.

00:24:28.000 Pilots and other air crew do get more radiation than typical travelers, but whether that causes health problems is still being studied and any added risk appears modest on a personal level.

00:24:38.000 Like they would be the ones that you would be able to study from the best whether or not flying and flight attendants, whether they're not flying is actually bad for you.

00:24:45.000 Well, we haven't heard anything yet.

00:24:47.000 No.

00:24:47.000 So that's good.

00:24:48.000 You would imagine that it's a long time.

00:24:51.000 Many studies find pilots and flight attendants have higher rates of some cancers.

00:24:55.000 Uh-oh.

00:24:56.000 Especially melanoma and other skin cancers.

00:24:59.000 And in some studies, breast cancer.

00:25:00.000 However, reviews say it's not clear how much of it is from cosmic radiation versus other factors such as disrupted sleep.

00:25:08.000 Like UV exposure during off time and lifestyle.

00:25:08.000 That's true.

00:25:11.000 Firm causal link to flight radiation alone has not been established.

00:25:16.000 That does make sense with the disrupted sleep because I talked to a pilot once who did like a lot of late-night flights and it's like, your whole body is just so wrecked.

00:25:25.000 Like people who do the night shift.

00:25:26.000 Yeah.

00:25:27.000 That can't be good for you.

00:25:28.000 Your circadian rhythm is all fucked up.

00:25:30.000 Can't you adjust, though?

00:25:30.000 You're sleeping during.

00:25:31.000 Can't you adjust?

00:25:32.000 If you can.

00:25:33.000 But if you're the guy who gets the night shift every night, you're working at a factory and you punch in at like 8 p.m.

00:25:41.000 Yeah.

00:25:42.000 Like you're not, that's just your life, man.

00:25:44.000 That's how you live.

00:25:45.000 That's like shooting a film and you do like three or four night shoots.

00:25:51.000 Someone snaps.

00:25:53.000 Yeah.

00:25:53.000 There's always one person that just like freaking crazy.

00:25:58.000 Oh, you're oh no.

00:25:59.000 Chad just went.

00:26:01.000 We just lost Chad.

00:26:02.000 I don't know what happened to him, but he freaked out.

00:26:04.000 Some people, when they can't sleep, they become big babies.

00:26:07.000 Yeah, very emotional.

00:26:09.000 He's very emotional.

00:26:10.000 Well, there's a thing, there's an indulgence on sets, too, from actors.

00:26:15.000 It's like there's a kind of a lack of appreciation sometimes because you just get accustomed to it, of how fortunate you are to be able to do what you do.

00:26:26.000 Yeah.

00:26:26.000 You know, very few people get to be an actor in a movie.

00:26:29.000 Yeah.

00:26:30.000 And you're spazing out because you didn't get enough sleep.

00:26:32.000 And meanwhile, the crew really didn't get enough sleep.

00:26:32.000 Yeah.

00:26:35.000 They didn't have sleep either.

00:26:37.000 They're working two hours before you and two hours after you.

00:26:39.000 But if they spaz out, they'll get fired.

00:26:41.000 Yeah, immediately.

00:26:42.000 Yeah, and that's the difference.

00:26:43.000 Like, it's not an equality thing.

00:26:45.000 So these people, they're aware they're like royalty walking around this film set.

00:26:50.000 You know, it's kind of odd.

00:26:52.000 Well, it is odd.

00:26:53.000 And at the same time, it's a very unique experience, right?

00:27:00.000 Because this person has to be on camera.

00:27:02.000 And every inch of their face is, you know, going to be six feet tall in a movie theater.

00:27:10.000 And so everybody's just making sure that person is doing okay and they look okay and they feel okay.

00:27:18.000 Because if they don't, then you don't have anything.

00:27:22.000 You don't have anything to shoot.

00:27:23.000 So everybody is just like.

00:27:25.000 Yeah.

00:27:26.000 Are you feeling okay?

00:27:26.000 Are you okay?

00:27:27.000 Are you hydrated?

00:27:28.000 Do you need water?

00:27:29.000 Do you need a piece of turkey?

00:27:31.000 Well, the results of that, like psychologically over a prolonged period of time, people usually get really weird.

00:27:39.000 Yeah, agree.

00:27:40.000 That's their normal experience is everybody's treating them like, take care of your hair.

00:27:48.000 Brush your shoulders.

00:27:49.000 It's true.

00:27:50.000 It's kooky.

00:27:51.000 It's kooky.

00:27:52.000 That's why, you know, people that start early, especially that have success early.

00:27:56.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:57.000 It's not good.

00:27:59.000 It's not a good way to kick off your life.

00:28:02.000 It's like, this is not normal.

00:28:03.000 If you think this is normal, you're going to be real sad in a few years.

00:28:07.000 And I don't think you can recover from a bad developmental period that way.

00:28:12.000 That's hard.

00:28:12.000 It's different.

00:28:13.000 It's different than anything else.

00:28:15.000 Like, you could have a bad childhood and it'll make you more resilient.

00:28:18.000 But a bad childhood in front of the whole world and you've never had to really work and you've never had to really struggle and you've been famous since you were young.

00:28:26.000 So your interactions with people from the time you were young is people loving you for your work, which is not good for kids.

00:28:32.000 No, it's not.

00:28:33.000 And the way you look.

00:28:34.000 That's a big part of it, which is hard.

00:28:36.000 Well, it's not just your work.

00:28:38.000 You know, it's like what we're talking about.

00:28:40.000 You have to look good while you're doing it.

00:28:43.000 That's part of the job.

00:28:43.000 Especially as a woman, that's a big factor.

00:28:46.000 But I always liken it to like concrete.

00:28:48.000 Like if you make concrete incorrectly, so like if you decide to mix it, but you don't add enough water or you don't, it's only you can add water later once it's solid.

00:28:57.000 It's like that's what it is.

00:28:59.000 It's going to be lumpy.

00:29:00.000 It's just going to be sucky, weak ass concrete that's going to break.

00:29:03.000 Wait, when did you get, well, what was your first break?

00:29:06.000 Was it news radio?

00:29:08.000 Yeah, well, I was on another show before news radio called Hardball.

00:29:11.000 It was a sitcom that was on Fox.

00:29:13.000 That's what I actually moved out to LA for.

00:29:15.000 And if that show got canceled and if I didn't have a lease on an apartment, I would have went back to New York.

00:29:21.000 I hated it.

00:29:22.000 Why did you hate it?

00:29:23.000 Well, I didn't like the whole scene.

00:29:28.000 It felt, I was used to fight gyms, pool halls, and comedy clubs.

00:29:34.000 Those are the people I was used to.

00:29:36.000 They're the funniest, like most brash, blunt people, and everybody's cracking on everybody.

00:29:43.000 And it's like, it's jolly.

00:29:45.000 Those are jolly places for the most part.

00:29:48.000 And then I went from there to this weird world of groupthink and seeing people read the Hollywood Reporter every day and get really upset.

00:29:57.000 And I would keep telling them, like, that's the devil's rag.

00:29:57.000 Yeah.

00:29:59.000 Like, why are you reading that?

00:30:00.000 Like, don't read that.

00:30:02.000 Right, because they're just imagining they didn't get the role or they didn't get the film or whatever.

00:30:07.000 It is odd, but yes, that's.

00:30:09.000 It's kooky.

00:30:10.000 And it's also the groupthink thing.

00:30:12.000 It's like, I saw it like right away.

00:30:14.000 Like, if a film was really good, if everybody decided it was really good, you had to say it was really good.

00:30:18.000 You couldn't say, I fucking hated that movie.

00:30:20.000 Like, there was this Jack Nicholson movie where he played this asshole, and I think it was Helen Hunt played.

00:30:20.000 Yeah.

00:30:27.000 That's what it's getting.

00:30:28.000 Yes, that one.

00:30:29.000 And I was like, Jesus Christ, like, why?

00:30:32.000 The whole idea was that he was a fucked up dude because he was on some sort of a medication.

00:30:36.000 That medication made him racist.

00:30:38.000 Like, it didn't make any sense.

00:30:41.000 The whole thing was nuts.

00:30:43.000 And I remember everybody's saying, what an amazing movie.

00:30:46.000 I'm like, God, I felt bad for her.

00:30:47.000 Like, get the fuck out of that relationship.

00:30:49.000 Find someone who's nice to you.

00:30:50.000 This is crazy.

00:30:51.000 Yeah.

00:30:52.000 This is crazy.

00:30:53.000 Racist.

00:30:54.000 It didn't make any sense.

00:30:55.000 And I remember arguing with people on a set about it.

00:30:58.000 And they were all like, oh, I thought it was an amazing film.

00:31:01.000 Like, they had to say it.

00:31:02.000 Right.

00:31:02.000 It was Jack Nicholson.

00:31:03.000 Right.

00:31:04.000 It was an amazing movie.

00:31:05.000 I was like, that movie's fucking depressing, man.

00:31:07.000 Like, that was all that poor lady had.

00:31:10.000 This fucking asshole, this old asshole, was.

00:31:12.000 It was like the movie Precious.

00:31:14.000 I didn't see that.

00:31:16.000 Yeah, I heard that.

00:31:17.000 It's just, you're just watching it and you're like, well, nothing else bad could happen.

00:31:23.000 And then it's another thing happens.

00:31:25.000 No, it just gets worse.

00:31:26.000 And by the end of it, You're just feeling like, why are we alive?

00:31:32.000 I just like those kind of movies.

00:31:34.000 I don't want to feel depressed anymore.

00:31:35.000 No.

00:31:35.000 Okay, so then you got news radio.

00:31:39.000 So I stayed in LA just because I had a lease.

00:31:39.000 News radio.

00:31:43.000 That was it.

00:31:45.000 I'm not kidding.

00:31:46.000 I was so ready to go.

00:31:47.000 You were not going to break that lease.

00:31:48.000 I was trying to say I didn't have the money.

00:31:50.000 I was like, okay, I have some money because I did the sitcom for six episodes.

00:31:54.000 So I had some money.

00:31:55.000 So I was like, how much money would it cost me to just fucking pay this lease off?

00:31:59.000 I was a jet.

00:32:01.000 And I was like, oh, is that just stay here?

00:32:03.000 And then I got another development deal.

00:32:04.000 I got a development deal with NBC.

00:32:06.000 And they had this pot before I did the show.

00:32:09.000 They said, we have this show that we have a pilot for, but we're going to fire this one person on the pilot.

00:32:13.000 And would you come in and read for us?

00:32:15.000 Did you know?

00:32:16.000 Did you know who was being fired?

00:32:19.000 Yeah, well, it was actually a friend of mine.

00:32:21.000 Did you know at the time?

00:32:22.000 Well, he got hard to replace somebody.

00:32:24.000 It's Ray Romano.

00:32:25.000 Oh, he's a good friend of mine.

00:32:26.000 He's a friend of mine.

00:32:27.000 He's awesome.

00:32:28.000 And I had worked with Ray like multiple times in New York, but Ray got fired and then they replaced him with another guy who was in the pilot.

00:32:35.000 And then they decided to fire that guy.

00:32:37.000 So I was like, okay, well, at least I'm not taking Ray's job.

00:32:40.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:32:41.000 But then Ray went out to do Everybody Loves Raymond, which him getting fired was the best thing that ever happened to him.

00:32:46.000 So then I go in and they let me watch the pilot.

00:32:50.000 It was already made.

00:32:51.000 And so I got to see it's Phil Hartman and Dave Foley and Candy Alexander and Maura Tierney and Andy Dick and Stephen Root.

00:32:58.000 I'm like, holy shit.

00:32:59.000 Yeah.

00:32:59.000 Like, I can be on this show.

00:33:01.000 This show is amazing.

00:33:02.000 So we did that.

00:33:03.000 Then I did Fear Factor.

00:33:05.000 Well, how long was News Radio?

00:33:08.000 Five years.

00:33:09.000 Wow.

00:33:10.000 Yeah.

00:33:12.000 But it really wasn't popular.

00:33:13.000 It was only popular on reruns.

00:33:16.000 Yeah, once it got into syndication, because we moved around like over the course of five years, we moved nine times, I believe.

00:33:23.000 When you were doing news radio, that's right.

00:33:27.000 I don't know what years.

00:33:29.000 It was 94 to 99.

00:33:31.000 Okay.

00:33:32.000 So I got Curbier Enthusiasm in 99.

00:33:35.000 So before that, I was working for Robin Michelle Reiner as a personal assistant.

00:33:42.000 And I was also doing like catering at night sometimes just to make ends meet.

00:33:49.000 And one of my jobs went, and I never knew what the job would be.

00:33:52.000 You know, they'd say, show up here at whatever, five o'clock.

00:33:56.000 One of my jobs one time was news radio.

00:34:00.000 There was a little green room where, you know, agents and people.

00:34:08.000 And I was in charge of like making sure the food on the table looked good.

00:34:13.000 That's hilarious.

00:34:14.000 I just stood there for hours.

00:34:17.000 I think Phil Hartman came in and was like, hey, I didn't know him at the time.

00:34:21.000 I'd met him.

00:34:22.000 And he said, oh, you know, who are you here to see?

00:34:26.000 I said, oh, I'm just in charge of this table.

00:34:30.000 But that was my big job for the night.

00:34:33.000 My friend Joey Diaz, who is at that time, he had just recently gotten out of jail.

00:34:40.000 He came to visit me on the set and he realized that the good food was all in the VIP screen room.

00:34:47.000 So and he back, he's like, he's he got overweight for a while, but back then he wasn't.

00:34:52.000 Back then, he's just literally a big football player.

00:34:54.000 He's like a big, scary looking Cuban guy.

00:34:57.000 And he was in there eating the shrimp cocktail.

00:34:59.000 And they were like, who is the scary guy that's eating?

00:35:02.000 And is he supposed to be in here?

00:35:03.000 They all like freaked out because Joey went into the super secret room.

00:35:07.000 I was wondering, I wonder if he went in there when you were in there.

00:35:10.000 Oh, could you imagine?

00:35:11.000 I was like, excuse me, sir.

00:35:13.000 You can only have six shrimp.

00:35:16.000 I have to watch the table.

00:35:17.000 Well, he wasn't supposed to be in there.

00:35:19.000 He just went in.

00:35:19.000 He was just my friend hanging out.

00:35:20.000 He just went in there.

00:35:21.000 He's like, this is where the good food is.

00:35:22.000 And he went in there and started challenging.

00:35:24.000 Yeah.

00:35:24.000 They were all freaking out.

00:35:25.000 It was very funny.

00:35:27.000 It was very funny.

00:35:29.000 But did you like LA any better when you were doing news radio?

00:35:34.000 I always wanted to leave.

00:35:36.000 I always felt like it was radioactive.

00:35:38.000 I always felt like there's a part of this.

00:35:40.000 Look, the weather's great.

00:35:42.000 It's beautiful.

00:35:42.000 The comedy store was amazing.

00:35:44.000 It was great to have that place, but there's too many people.

00:35:47.000 When there's that many people, I think you devalue people.

00:35:50.000 I don't think people are worthwhile to you.

00:35:52.000 I think people are way better off living in a small town or a small city.

00:35:56.000 I think it's healthier.

00:35:58.000 It's a good community.

00:35:59.000 Yeah, I just think when people become a when you get on the highway and you see millions of people, like fuck, and you see like the 405 at like 4 p.m., it's creaky.

00:36:08.000 And it's like 10 lanes, just bumper to bumper in both directions.

00:36:13.000 And everybody thinks that everybody else is annoying because you're in your way.

00:36:17.000 Everybody's going to be able to do it.

00:36:18.000 You meet on the road.

00:36:20.000 Yeah.

00:36:20.000 I thought you were going to be able to get it.

00:36:21.000 They get in front of you.

00:36:22.000 Like, you're not going anywhere.

00:36:23.000 Someone decides to get in front of you.

00:36:24.000 Like, who's fucking God?

00:36:26.000 Everybody gets crazy.

00:36:27.000 It's not healthy.

00:36:27.000 It is true.

00:36:28.000 No.

00:36:29.000 I felt like that wasn't healthy.

00:36:30.000 And I really hated the whole mentality behind the group think that was a part of Hollywood because everybody's trying to get cast in something.

00:36:38.000 And in order to get cast in something, you have to be ingratiate yourself with the producers and the casting directors.

00:36:44.000 Everybody has to like you.

00:36:46.000 So you have to have the same opinions as they do.

00:36:48.000 Yeah.

00:36:48.000 And if you don't, you have to fake it.

00:36:50.000 I was like, this is gross.

00:36:51.000 Like, this is gross.

00:36:52.000 The way they behave is gross.

00:36:54.000 The casting people would treat you was gross.

00:36:56.000 I didn't like it at all.

00:36:57.000 Well, you mean just going in and auditioning?

00:37:00.000 No, it was hard.

00:37:01.000 Well, there was a lot of it where there was like this arrogance.

00:37:03.000 This like this, like they're giving you this chance, so they're like really arrogant.

00:37:07.000 I was like, hey, I don't even care about this.

00:37:10.000 That's why you got the part.

00:37:12.000 Probably forgot some of them.

00:37:14.000 That's why I got Fear Factor because I was the only one that made fun of it.

00:37:19.000 And did you, you never had to do, you never had to like eat the spider.

00:37:23.000 I ate a bunch of stuff.

00:37:24.000 I ate some spiders.

00:37:25.000 Yeah, I ate an Iraqi cave spider.

00:37:28.000 I ate a Madagascar hissing cockroach.

00:37:31.000 I ate a tomato hornworm.

00:37:33.000 I ate a sheep's eyeball.

00:37:35.000 I ate a bunch of stuff because I ate it just to show the people that you could eat it.

00:37:38.000 Did you ever throw up after?

00:37:38.000 Ew.

00:37:40.000 I only threw up once at home.

00:37:40.000 No.

00:37:43.000 I was like, waited until you got out.

00:37:47.000 Though it was really good editing.

00:37:48.000 They did a great job.

00:37:49.000 And there was this girl that was.

00:37:52.000 It's not like Bobby.

00:37:53.000 Bobby has never thrown up.

00:37:54.000 It's just he doesn't, so he will eat anything and do anything.

00:37:59.000 Well, I've definitely thrown up.

00:38:01.000 But this time it was this lady who was eating worms and she had to swallow the worms and she couldn't.

00:38:08.000 So she spit them up into the glass and then she could keep going if she could redrink what was in the glass that she already spit up.

00:38:15.000 I went ran to the kitchen and threw up in the sink.

00:38:15.000 And so she did it.

00:38:21.000 And I was like, how?

00:38:22.000 And I kept thinking, how odd?

00:38:23.000 Like, what a great job they did with the editing and the music that it got me so wrapped up in it.

00:38:28.000 Even though I was at home, I was like five feet away from that lady while she was doing that.

00:38:31.000 I didn't throw up.

00:38:32.000 And it didn't bother you.

00:38:33.000 It bothered me, but I was trying to help her.

00:38:35.000 I was trying to get her, talk her through it.

00:38:37.000 That's why you were so good on it because you were never making fun of people.

00:38:42.000 I definitely made fun of people.

00:38:44.000 Well, but not in a you're so crazy to be on this show.

00:38:50.000 And why are you crying?

00:38:51.000 You're the one that wanted to come on.

00:38:53.000 You were, you were very, I wanted to help them at the very least do their best.

00:38:59.000 And there was a lot of it that I said, look, I know this sounds crazy, but if you just force yourself to chew this and swallow it, you could do it.

00:39:05.000 You got to just take your mind out of this place.

00:39:08.000 It's not that bad.

00:39:09.000 And sometimes I would eat things just to show them.

00:39:11.000 Ew.

00:39:12.000 Like I ate a roach just to show my girl.

00:39:14.000 I'll eat this if you do.

00:39:15.000 No.

00:39:15.000 I want you to eat this roach.

00:39:16.000 It's not that big a deal.

00:39:17.000 Ew.

00:39:18.000 Did you chew it?

00:39:19.000 You have to.

00:39:19.000 Yeah.

00:39:20.000 It'll be awesome.

00:39:20.000 You can't swallow it.

00:39:21.000 Do you remember what it tasted like?

00:39:22.000 Not much.

00:39:24.000 Yeah.

00:39:26.000 No, it's but it's in your head.

00:39:26.000 Yeah, I know.

00:39:28.000 It doesn't crunchy, sure, real crunchy.

00:39:31.000 But the actual taste itself was not bad.

00:39:35.000 I mean, it wasn't good.

00:39:36.000 It wasn't like I look forward to roaches.

00:39:38.000 And what about rats?

00:39:39.000 Did you do a lot of rat work?

00:39:41.000 We did work with rats where people had to like lion a thing in a coffin and covered them with rats and the rats would be nibble on them.

00:39:47.000 Uh-uh.

00:39:47.000 Yeah, that's not good.

00:39:48.000 But they were pet rats.

00:39:49.000 I mean, they were fed a healthy diet.

00:39:52.000 They were like raised rats.

00:39:52.000 They were.

00:39:54.000 They weren't like dangerous street rats that have been eating each other.

00:39:58.000 I mean, you probably can't talk about it, but did anything ever go horribly wrong?

00:39:58.000 Did anything?

00:40:03.000 No.

00:40:03.000 Really?

00:40:04.000 No, we got lucky, though.

00:40:06.000 It's just luck.

00:40:06.000 I really believe that.

00:40:08.000 Because we made them ride bulls once.

00:40:11.000 Yeah, you can't control a bull.

00:40:13.000 I told the people, don't do it.

00:40:15.000 When all the contestants, I said, I wouldn't do this.

00:40:17.000 I'll tell you right now.

00:40:18.000 I don't think you should do it because it's not worth it.

00:40:21.000 I go, the kind of catastrophic injury that you get from a bull stomping on your face is like, you don't come back from that.

00:40:27.000 Okay, you have to understand there's not a 0% possibility that this bull will stomp you or kick you while you're in the air being launched off its body and get kicked in the face.

00:40:37.000 Like, that's possible.

00:40:38.000 I wouldn't say that.

00:40:38.000 Don't do it.

00:40:39.000 Some people would back out, right?

00:40:40.000 They all did it.

00:40:43.000 Appreciate it.

00:40:43.000 I think.

00:40:44.000 And then they got to come in front of the bull.

00:40:45.000 How do you, I mean, they flew.

00:40:48.000 This one lady weighed like 98 pounds, and she got bucked and she went flying and landed right on her back and was like knocked out.

00:40:55.000 Yeah, it was horrible.

00:40:57.000 I would have never done that.

00:40:58.000 I mean, and look, I've had bull riders on the podcast before.

00:41:03.000 I've talked to multiple.

00:41:04.000 We had bull riders on Fear Factor.

00:41:06.000 Doesn't it?

00:41:07.000 You might know.

00:41:08.000 This is that you?

00:41:09.000 Yeah.

00:41:09.000 Did you see it?

00:41:10.000 What a cute tone.

00:41:11.000 Hey, put him on speakerphone.

00:41:13.000 Seriously?

00:41:14.000 Yeah, why not?

00:41:16.000 Honey, you're on speaker.

00:41:17.000 I'm here with Joe.

00:41:19.000 We're on the podcast.

00:41:20.000 You're on the podcast, so don't swear.

00:41:24.000 Hello.

00:41:26.000 Can you hear me, honey?

00:41:28.000 We're talking to Joe right now at your live.

00:41:33.000 Well, thanks, baby.

00:41:34.000 Hey, Joe, I'm looking forward to seeing you in a couple of weeks.

00:41:37.000 Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing you too.

00:41:39.000 You probably shouldn't have told people that because then they start attacking you.

00:41:42.000 Is there anything you need to tell me?

00:41:45.000 I was just going to ask Joe to be nice to my wife.

00:41:48.000 Why didn't you call me?

00:41:51.000 I'm in tears over here, honey.

00:41:53.000 It's really, it's going horribly.

00:41:57.000 All right, well, bring me back some of that alpha.

00:42:00.000 Alpha brain.

00:42:01.000 Yeah, we'll do.

00:42:03.000 Okay, baby.

00:42:04.000 Take care.

00:42:04.000 I love you.

00:42:05.000 Love you.

00:42:06.000 Bye, Bobby.

00:42:06.000 Love you too.

00:42:10.000 That's hilarious.

00:42:11.000 What was the showing me?

00:42:13.000 That Mexican OT did bull stuff.

00:42:15.000 No, Mexican OD did it.

00:42:17.000 He got fucked up.

00:42:18.000 No.

00:42:18.000 I mean, he got up and ran away.

00:42:20.000 Oh, my God.

00:42:22.000 This is a guest that was on my podcast.

00:42:23.000 He's awesome.

00:42:24.000 He's a brilliant rapper.

00:42:27.000 Oh, my goodness, dude.

00:42:29.000 Oh, my goodness, dude.

00:42:30.000 That's so terrible.

00:42:32.000 Oh, my goodness, dude.

00:42:33.000 Don't do that no more.

00:42:35.000 I mean, can I ask a question to the men?

00:42:40.000 I mean, do you wear special equipment down there?

00:42:43.000 Yes.

00:42:44.000 I assume they do.

00:42:45.000 They might not while they're doing that because I saw one guy get a horn right up his butt.

00:42:49.000 Yeah, but there's no special equipment that's going to protect you there.

00:42:52.000 What about your cup for sure?

00:42:54.000 You should wear something.

00:42:55.000 Yeah.

00:42:56.000 Yeah.

00:42:56.000 Because that doesn't seem like that's healthy.

00:42:59.000 Dope.

00:42:59.000 Definitely not healthy.

00:43:00.000 I don't think there's anything healthy about it, right?

00:43:02.000 No, definitely not healthy.

00:43:04.000 I mean, it's just like a lot of pressure on your balls.

00:43:08.000 For sure.

00:43:09.000 Yeah.

00:43:10.000 Have you ever done it?

00:43:11.000 What?

00:43:12.000 Yeah.

00:43:12.000 Bull riding?

00:43:13.000 No.

00:43:13.000 No, don't never do that.

00:43:16.000 I thought you were just telling the other people not to do that.

00:43:18.000 Oh, no.

00:43:21.000 I have a healthy respect for animals.

00:43:24.000 Yeah.

00:43:24.000 Especially big ones.

00:43:25.000 I think people get super delusional.

00:43:27.000 We also get super delusional when we compare size.

00:43:30.000 Like if you say, oh, a monkey's smaller than me, that thing will fucking kill you.

00:43:34.000 No, they'll pick your eyes out, right?

00:43:36.000 Oh, they'll rip your face apart.

00:43:37.000 Yeah.

00:43:38.000 There's a crazy video of this guy in India who's sitting down and he lets this monkey sit on his lap and he's like being all calm with the monkey and then the monkey just decides to tear a giant chunk off his scalp.

00:43:51.000 And the way it does it, it just bites his head and just yanks like a football-sized piece of meat off this guy's head.

00:43:58.000 And there's no stopping it.

00:44:00.000 There's no stopping it once it starts happening.

00:44:02.000 You don't know how strong they are.

00:44:04.000 Imagine being so strong you could just rip someone's skin clean off their head.

00:44:08.000 And this is like a little thing, a little 30-pound.

00:44:11.000 It looks adorable.

00:44:12.000 Yeah.

00:44:12.000 And he thought he was being cute.

00:44:13.000 It's like, I'm going to be peaceful.

00:44:15.000 I won't play it.

00:44:16.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:16.000 I don't know if she wants to play it.

00:44:17.000 No, I can't watch it, but.

00:44:18.000 Do you want to watch it?

00:44:18.000 No, I don't.

00:44:19.000 Do you want to?

00:44:20.000 You can watch it.

00:44:20.000 Yeah, I'll look away.

00:44:22.000 So he lets this thing on his lap.

00:44:24.000 Okay.

00:44:24.000 And then it just decides to bite his head.

00:44:26.000 Look at it real quick.

00:44:29.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:44:30.000 He's missing a giant shovel.

00:44:32.000 Oh, my God.

00:44:34.000 Yeah.

00:44:35.000 So he's scarred for life.

00:44:38.000 You know, it was a dumb decision.

00:44:40.000 You let that thing dominate you.

00:44:41.000 He didn't understand what he was doing.

00:44:43.000 You let that thing get on top of him.

00:44:43.000 No.

00:44:45.000 The thing just decided for no reason to just bite his head.

00:44:47.000 No, we used to have a pet emu.

00:44:49.000 Ooh.

00:44:50.000 They're the dumbest birds, by the way.

00:44:52.000 They are so dumb.

00:44:53.000 Their heads are tiny, so their brain must be.

00:44:56.000 And the rest of them is big.

00:44:59.000 So you just had this emu like coming at you every day.

00:45:03.000 Well, it wasn't relaxing.

00:45:06.000 It got to the point where I had to walk outside with a shovel.

00:45:10.000 Just to protect yourself from the emo.

00:45:11.000 That's crazy.

00:45:12.000 I have a friend who has ostriches.

00:45:15.000 Are they nicer?

00:45:15.000 I wonder if they're nicer.

00:45:16.000 He says the same thing.

00:45:17.000 He hates them.

00:45:19.000 He has this big ranch in Texas and he got ostriches.

00:45:22.000 He's like, dude, I hate these things.

00:45:24.000 Look at that face.

00:45:24.000 No, it's terrible.

00:45:25.000 They're mean.

00:45:26.000 And, you know.

00:45:27.000 They tried to bite us on Fear Factor too.

00:45:29.000 We had an episode where they had to drink a whole ostrich egg.

00:45:32.000 A raw ostrich egg.

00:45:32.000 Ew.

00:45:34.000 Ew.

00:45:34.000 But we had ostriches in the background.

00:45:36.000 They started just fucking with people, like biting their heads.

00:45:38.000 Yeah.

00:45:39.000 They'll peck you.

00:45:40.000 Yeah, they'll parry.

00:45:41.000 You know what else is dumb?

00:45:42.000 This lady was a falconeer.

00:45:44.000 That's what they're called, right?

00:45:46.000 Falconer, when they train.

00:45:46.000 Falconer.

00:45:48.000 No, that's Bobby.

00:45:48.000 Bobby's book.

00:45:50.000 Yes.

00:45:51.000 Oh, so this lady, she had a golden eagle.

00:45:54.000 She had a couple.

00:45:55.000 The falcons are the most fascinating.

00:45:58.000 But then she had an owl.

00:46:00.000 And she's like, owl is there.

00:46:01.000 First of all, one misconception is that owls are smart.

00:46:04.000 She goes, they are so dumb.

00:46:06.000 They're the dumbest birds next to emus.

00:46:08.000 Only emos are dumber than owls.

00:46:10.000 I didn't know that.

00:46:11.000 I was like, really?

00:46:12.000 That's cruy?

00:46:14.000 Like, why do we have this idea that they're don't pollute?

00:46:18.000 Remember?

00:46:18.000 They're very wise.

00:46:20.000 Why do we think they're wise?

00:46:20.000 Yeah.

00:46:22.000 And he's counting how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tissue rope pop, remember?

00:46:25.000 Yes.

00:46:26.000 But he could never get to it.

00:46:28.000 So maybe we should have learned.

00:46:29.000 Yeah, this guy's full of shit.

00:46:30.000 Yeah, he's full of shit.

00:46:31.000 He's a fake professor.

00:46:33.000 We've had some owls in our day with Bobby.

00:46:36.000 Oh, pets?

00:46:37.000 Yeah.

00:46:38.000 I mean, yeah.

00:46:38.000 Is this Bobby?

00:46:39.000 No.

00:46:40.000 No, this is someone.

00:46:41.000 I saw this going around the other night.

00:46:42.000 What is this?

00:46:43.000 Is that his falcon?

00:46:44.000 You can't see where it is.

00:46:45.000 Whoa.

00:46:47.000 That looks like an eagle.

00:46:48.000 He sees it from away.

00:46:48.000 Is that an eagle or a hawk?

00:46:50.000 What is that?

00:46:50.000 Does it say?

00:46:51.000 It doesn't say.

00:46:52.000 I don't know if it said specifically.

00:46:53.000 I'm going to send another Facebook link.

00:46:54.000 They had a golden eagle.

00:46:56.000 The golden eagle is amazing.

00:46:57.000 But it kept trying to land.

00:46:58.000 We had a little campfire outside.

00:47:00.000 It kept trying to land on the fire.

00:47:03.000 That's weird.

00:47:03.000 Why is this bird so stupid?

00:47:05.000 That looks like a hawk.

00:47:07.000 Yeah, it looks like a hawk.

00:47:08.000 So this lady, she had hawks and falcons.

00:47:08.000 Yeah.

00:47:12.000 And she's like, the problem with hawks is as soon as you let them loose, they immediately find something to kill.

00:47:18.000 She's like, they just, everything that's near them, they kill.

00:47:21.000 She goes, like, this sucker kills birds.

00:47:23.000 He kills squirrels.

00:47:25.000 Like, you let the owl go.

00:47:26.000 The owl just, like, goes over there.

00:47:28.000 He'll come back to you.

00:47:29.000 The eagle, the same thing.

00:47:31.000 Not the hawks.

00:47:32.000 The hawks are like, it's time to kill.

00:47:34.000 No, that's what they do.

00:47:35.000 It's weird.

00:47:36.000 Like I said, Bobby loves hawks and falcons, and he will—I went hawking with him once.

00:47:43.000 How do you do that?

00:47:45.000 well you you have these they do it in twos like these two birds and are they his birds Yes.

00:47:54.000 So he's trained these birds?

00:47:56.000 He's trained them and the other.

00:47:59.000 That's kind of a crazy thing to be good at.

00:48:01.000 It's a very crazy.

00:48:02.000 But look, even since he was young.

00:48:04.000 But so it's pretty fascinating because you have to do it when after the leaves have fallen from the trees and there are two birds that hunt together and they go up into the trees and then it's really beautiful at first for me because it's until the carnage.

00:48:22.000 So they start, they start going from tree to tree and they're communicating with each other and they'll see a you know bunny cute, sweet.

00:48:32.000 You see where this is going.

00:48:33.000 And they see a bunny down there and they go, and they go and one of them does something and then the other one swoops down and grabs it and they just tear it apart and the next thing, you know, it's just, you know bunny, guts.

00:48:47.000 Yeah, so it's cute until then, but it's pretty fascinating to watch them do it.

00:48:51.000 There was some kind of a war in my backyard that was going on for a while and I don't know what animal was doing it, but I found a bunch of beheaded hawks.

00:49:00.000 Wow yeah, I don't know what bird was killing the hawks, but they'll kill the hawk and and rip its head off.

00:49:08.000 Ask Bobby, he will know.

00:49:09.000 I bet he will know.

00:49:10.000 I assume it was something bigger it's, but yeah, they're big already.

00:49:14.000 It's hard to imagine what an owl owls eat hawks.

00:49:18.000 I'm really.

00:49:19.000 But are they fast enough?

00:49:21.000 Oh yeah, an owl is fast.

00:49:23.000 Owls uh, are silent and the the thing about owls is there's a really interesting video that you could find where they take a bunch of different birds and they have them fly from point a to point b and then they have a sound uh meter and the sound registers registers the decibels of their flight.

00:49:39.000 They may owls.

00:49:40.000 It's almost completely silent.

00:49:42.000 They're so silent, they're so sneaky.

00:49:44.000 So there's a great black and white video of this owl in its uh, it's night vision the, the camera, and you see this owl swooping up on a on a hawk's nest and snatches a hawk right out of the nest.

00:49:56.000 Oh my god, I wonder, comes out of nowhere, like you see eyes in the distance.

00:50:01.000 Yeah, it's really weird.

00:50:02.000 I don't think i've ever seen an owl in flights, but not that I really in real life.

00:50:07.000 You mean oh, I did when I where I eat only at night.

00:50:11.000 Yes, i've only seen them fly at night, but where I live.

00:50:13.000 One time I was driving home and there was this owl that was right on the side of the road and as I was driving he took off with a rabbit in his, in his talons and then just decided he didn't want to carry this rabbit anymore and let it go like maybe it was dangerous because the rabbit was kind of big.

00:50:29.000 And then the rabbit dropped in the middle of the road.

00:50:31.000 So I pulled the car over and I got out and I looked at this like gutted rabbit and this owl who would just jack this rabbit and then just decided, it's so weird that it they he, i'm assuming it was an aggressive male owl, might have been a female protecting its young or giving its young food.

00:50:49.000 A lot of them is that.

00:50:50.000 I mean, I wonder if the uh rabbit was diseased or something.

00:50:54.000 No, it was food.

00:50:55.000 No, but how?

00:50:56.000 But that's so the rabbits can't even hear it coming.

00:50:59.000 That's the thing about owls.

00:51:00.000 That's why they're such brilliant nocturnal hunters is because see if you can find that video of the an the, the birds, the different sounds between the.

00:51:09.000 They like there's a hawk, there's an eagle and then the owl, just no, It's like nothing.

00:51:15.000 It just swoops in and just snatches them.

00:51:17.000 They eat a lot of cats, too, by the way.

00:51:20.000 Yeah.

00:51:21.000 I didn't know that.

00:51:22.000 Yeah, a friend of mine found there was an owl nest and he found like six cat collars in the nest.

00:51:30.000 Oh, I always just assumed it was coyotes.

00:51:33.000 It is a lot of coyotes, but it's also owls.

00:51:35.000 Owls kill a lot of people's cats.

00:51:37.000 That is crazy.

00:51:38.000 Yeah, and they can fly with your cat.

00:51:40.000 That's what's crazy.

00:51:41.000 So watch.

00:51:42.000 To fly over a series of super sensitive microphones.

00:51:47.000 So that's a pigeon.

00:51:48.000 Super loud.

00:51:50.000 I don't know what trying to do that.

00:51:52.000 Oh, geez.

00:51:54.000 The hawk.

00:51:59.000 Pretty loud.

00:52:01.000 Now watch the owl.

00:52:02.000 It's Kenza's turn.

00:52:13.000 Nothing.

00:52:14.000 You don't hear anything.

00:52:16.000 You don't even hear the wings.

00:52:16.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:52:18.000 And those are super sensitive microphones.

00:52:18.000 Nope.

00:52:21.000 Wow.

00:52:21.000 Now see if you can find the video of the owl snatching the hawk out of the nest.

00:52:25.000 That's so crazy.

00:52:27.000 I didn't know this.

00:52:28.000 Yeah, owls are super predators.

00:52:30.000 Yeah.

00:52:32.000 They see so well at night and they have those big heads.

00:52:35.000 Yeah, then their heads can turn crazy eyes.

00:52:37.000 So see those dots in the distance?

00:52:37.000 Yeah, watch this.

00:52:39.000 That's them.

00:52:40.000 Watch this.

00:52:41.000 Snatch.

00:52:44.000 The other hawk barely knows what the hell happened.

00:52:46.000 Snatch.

00:52:46.000 Oh, my God.

00:52:47.000 Oh my god.

00:52:48.000 Yep.

00:52:49.000 Just steals them right out of the nest.

00:52:50.000 Owls are big, too.

00:52:52.000 They seem to be work alone.

00:52:55.000 They seem a little lonesome.

00:52:58.000 Yeah, well, I mean, you can't fly a flock of owls.

00:53:02.000 But like the hawks, when they hunt, they hunt together, you know, and they're communicating.

00:53:06.000 Oh, you have to.

00:53:07.000 They make so much noise.

00:53:08.000 That's true.

00:53:09.000 They got a clumsy approach where the owl is sneaky.

00:53:11.000 And how about the pigeons?

00:53:12.000 They do not have a chance.

00:53:13.000 Oh, chance.

00:53:14.000 So loud.

00:53:15.000 What do they eat?

00:53:17.000 That's a good question.

00:53:18.000 That's a good question.

00:53:19.000 Bird sees.

00:53:20.000 I know what eats pigeons, though.

00:53:21.000 What?

00:53:22.000 Rats in New York City.

00:53:23.000 There's a crazy video of a rat in New York City grabbing a pigeon and attacking it and eating it.

00:53:28.000 Yeah, and dragging it away.

00:53:29.000 You've never seen that?

00:53:32.000 I like that you think that's what I'm looking at online.

00:53:35.000 What are you looking at online passion tips?

00:53:38.000 It's not that.

00:53:40.000 If you want to live in a big city, that's the nature that you get.

00:53:44.000 The rats and pigeons.

00:53:45.000 There are a lot of rats in DC.

00:53:47.000 Rats kill pigeons all the time.

00:53:49.000 Rats kill pigeons.

00:53:50.000 Yeah, if they catch them slipping, they're close enough where they can grab them.

00:53:55.000 It's disgusting.

00:53:56.000 Oh, rats are disgusting.

00:53:58.000 Have you ever watched that documentary on Netflix called Rats?

00:54:01.000 No.

00:54:02.000 I would never.

00:54:02.000 Whoa.

00:54:04.000 No, God, no.

00:54:04.000 You should.

00:54:05.000 It's a game changer.

00:54:06.000 No.

00:54:07.000 It's so nutty.

00:54:08.000 When you find out that the biomass of rats in New York City is roughly equal to the biomass of people.

00:54:17.000 Meaning the weight of all the people in New York City is roughly equal to the weight of all the rats in New York City.

00:54:23.000 But you lived in New York.

00:54:24.000 Is that accurate?

00:54:25.000 I think that's accurate.

00:54:26.000 It might be the numbers.

00:54:28.000 It might be the same number of people as there are rats, but I don't think.

00:54:30.000 But you can have a problem when you live there.

00:54:32.000 I didn't live there.

00:54:33.000 I lived in New Rochelle, which was a suburb.

00:54:36.000 That's nice.

00:54:37.000 Westchester.

00:54:39.000 I was a road comedian and I needed a parking spot.

00:54:42.000 I couldn't afford to park in New York City.

00:54:44.000 I was like, it's too hard.

00:54:45.000 Yeah.

00:54:46.000 It was like, you know, whatever it was for a parking spot was like half my rent.

00:54:50.000 I was like, I can't afford that.

00:54:51.000 Yeah.

00:54:51.000 Also, I don't like it.

00:54:53.000 I don't like being stacked on top of people like that.

00:54:56.000 All my friends who live there, they're like, yeah, I don't even know my neighbors.

00:54:59.000 I'm like, there's a guy right across six feet away from you.

00:55:01.000 You don't even fucking know him.

00:55:02.000 That's kind of crazy.

00:55:03.000 No.

00:55:04.000 There are always people upstairs banging around.

00:55:07.000 Moving furniture.

00:55:07.000 Yeah.

00:55:10.000 Not interesting.

00:55:11.000 Not your vibe.

00:55:12.000 So here it is.

00:55:13.000 For the big picture comparison, 8.3 million humans at 70 kilograms each are about 580,000 metric tons of human.

00:55:21.000 So rats at roughly 0.102% of human biomass in New York City, even though they're extremely visible.

00:55:28.000 Oh, so it's only like less than a percent?

00:55:32.000 Wait a minute.

00:55:33.000 Well, they're tiny.

00:55:35.000 I mean, compared to.

00:55:37.000 So the number of rats.

00:55:39.000 Is the number of rats the same?

00:55:41.000 Is that what I'm getting wrong?

00:55:43.000 An estimated about 3 million rats in New York City, but there's like 10 million people.

00:55:47.000 That's disgusting.

00:55:49.000 But I don't think 3 million rats are.

00:55:50.000 I don't think they really know.

00:55:52.000 Yeah, how do you think?

00:55:53.000 I think they're probably underestimating it because underneath the city is where all the rats live.

00:55:58.000 There's no way they're doing an accurate count of all the rats.

00:56:01.000 I feel like LA screwed up on.

00:56:05.000 This is what I screwed up on.

00:56:06.000 It's actually ants with the biomass of ants on Earth.

00:56:10.000 I think that's true.

00:56:11.000 I think the biomass of ants on Earth is roughly equal to the biomass of people.

00:56:16.000 The things that are going on inside your head are insane.

00:56:19.000 That is a kooky number, though.

00:56:21.000 That is a kooky number.

00:56:22.000 We might find out that's wrong, too.

00:56:24.000 I think it's right, though.

00:56:25.000 Is that what it is?

00:56:28.000 But the rats in New York City are aggressive and huge.

00:56:32.000 Oh, okay.

00:56:33.000 That's not true either.

00:56:35.000 Is that right?

00:56:35.000 Yeah.

00:56:37.000 What is that?

00:56:37.000 Get rid of that little source thing.

00:56:39.000 I can't.

00:56:40.000 It's not showing.

00:56:40.000 Okay.

00:56:41.000 It's not blocking.

00:56:42.000 Oh, there it goes.

00:56:44.000 20 quadrillion?

00:56:46.000 I've never even seen that word.

00:56:47.000 I'm either.

00:56:48.000 20 quadrillion individuals worldwide.

00:56:51.000 That's the number of ants.

00:56:53.000 Wow.

00:56:54.000 I mean.

00:56:55.000 So it's 20% of human dry biomass.

00:56:58.000 After you peed?

00:56:58.000 What does that mean?

00:57:00.000 And more than all the wild birds and mammals combined.

00:57:03.000 That's crazy.

00:57:04.000 There's more weight from ants than all the mammals and birds combined.

00:57:12.000 That's crazy.

00:57:13.000 That is crazy.

00:57:17.000 But I know.

00:57:17.000 That is crazy.

00:57:18.000 I have them in my backyard and they're leaf cutter ants.

00:57:21.000 No, they're cool.

00:57:22.000 They're cute.

00:57:23.000 They carry all those little tiny.

00:57:25.000 It's weird.

00:57:25.000 It's like, how do you guys know?

00:57:27.000 How do you know to do that?

00:57:28.000 And they work together.

00:57:29.000 They work together.

00:57:30.000 Yeah.

00:57:30.000 Well, they have the.

00:57:31.000 Have you ever seen what the leafcutter ant colonies look like under the surface?

00:57:35.000 No.

00:57:36.000 So they take them and they, unfortunately, they do a genocide on the leafcutter ants for science, and they fill up their entire colony with cement.

00:57:44.000 And so they show what the structure is.

00:57:47.000 You mean when they were studying?

00:57:48.000 Yes.

00:57:49.000 Okay.

00:57:49.000 But this is how they find out.

00:57:50.000 You have to kill everybody and turn them into concrete.

00:57:53.000 And so this enormous leafcutter ant colony that's underground, then they dig it up and only the cement is left.

00:58:01.000 And it's bananas.

00:58:02.000 It's so funny.

00:58:03.000 These little tunnels.

00:58:05.000 They have fermentation tubes.

00:58:08.000 So they have an area where they put leaves in to ferment and then they have a tunnel that goes up to the surface so it can get air.

00:58:15.000 That's crazy.

00:58:16.000 So this is it.

00:58:17.000 They fill up.

00:58:18.000 This is the leaf cutter ant colony.

00:58:20.000 Look at the ones on the outside going, ah, the fuck.

00:58:23.000 My cousin's in there.

00:58:24.000 They are freaking out.

00:58:25.000 Yeah, they're freaking out.

00:58:26.000 And so then they have to excavate and they dig out this area.

00:58:29.000 And it is absolutely massive.

00:58:32.000 Oh, so these are, that's the concrete that.

00:58:35.000 Exactly.

00:58:37.000 So the concrete that's left is what the colony actually looks like underground.

00:58:41.000 It's enormous.

00:58:42.000 It's like the size of a house.

00:58:44.000 Like, look at that.

00:58:45.000 What's that to do with these stupid fucking ads that you can't even get rid of that cover a quarter of your screen?

00:58:51.000 But look, pause that real quick.

00:58:53.000 Look at that.

00:58:54.000 That is crazy.

00:58:55.000 Bananas.

00:58:56.000 Absolutely bananas.

00:58:58.000 But that's a good idea.

00:58:58.000 That a tiny little ant and all of his friends can make something like that.

00:59:03.000 I like that they're all friends.

00:59:05.000 I think there are some that are like, I hate that ass.

00:59:07.000 Yeah, probably.

00:59:08.000 So lazy.

00:59:08.000 He's lazy.

00:59:09.000 We're all working our asses off and he's just over there like taking it easy.

00:59:12.000 Well, there's some ants where the female will find the male and they cut his legs off, his arms and legs off, and then carry him to the colony so that he could breed.

00:59:28.000 Find that ant is that?

00:59:30.000 Yeah, they find him and they cut his arms and legs off so he can't go anywhere.

00:59:34.000 And he just says, wow.

00:59:38.000 Do you think he thinks it's an honor?

00:59:40.000 I don't think he thinks.

00:59:42.000 Right?

00:59:43.000 How can he?

00:59:44.000 I think they're almost like little robots.

00:59:44.000 I don't know.

00:59:48.000 It seems like they are working together and coming up with plans and landscapes.

00:59:55.000 But the thing is, this is a universal thing.

00:59:58.000 This is what's really weird.

01:00:00.000 Like here we are in Texas, but there's probably leafcutter ants right now in Florida.

01:00:04.000 There's probably leafcutter ants right now all over the world.

01:00:07.000 And they're all doing a similar thing underground.

01:00:09.000 But leafcutter, so they're completely different than, say, red ants.

01:00:14.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a bunch of different kinds of ants, but the thing that differentiates leafcutter ants is that they go to trees, they chop off their leaves, they take these little pieces of it, and then they carry it back into their leafcutter ant colony.

01:00:26.000 And then they have all these places where they store the leaves, and the leaves ferment, and they kind of rot, and then they have air pipes that go up to the surface.

01:00:36.000 It's super, super complex.

01:00:39.000 Wow.

01:00:39.000 And it just makes you think, like, how do they know to make this chamber and then a passageway to the chamber?

01:00:45.000 Right.

01:00:46.000 And how do they all know?

01:00:47.000 Right.

01:00:47.000 All over the world.

01:00:48.000 It's very weird.

01:00:48.000 Right.

01:00:49.000 It's a very weird thing that they do.

01:00:51.000 But I have them in my yard and I just sit there and watch them.

01:00:54.000 I can only find stuff about them amputating the limbs for saving their lives, not breeding.

01:01:01.000 No, it was a specific kind of thing.

01:01:03.000 I typed it in four different times.

01:01:05.000 All I can get was that queen ants will amputate their wings afterwards, but I didn't see anything about cutting off a male's limbs and dragging them for breeding.

01:01:14.000 It's just they all do it to address wounds.

01:01:18.000 I wish I could remember what it was.

01:01:20.000 It was a specific kind of ant.

01:01:22.000 I'm going to get a ruthless world of insects.

01:01:26.000 We're lucky they're little.

01:01:28.000 Because they're smart.

01:01:29.000 Well, you don't think they think.

01:01:32.000 You think they think they've got some sort of activity.

01:01:38.000 I think they have activity, but I think they're operating on a program.

01:01:42.000 They don't have feelings.

01:01:43.000 I don't think they have any feelings.

01:01:45.000 No, I definitely don't think they have feelings.

01:01:49.000 I mean, if a praying mantis was the size of a German shepherd, we'd have a real problem.

01:01:54.000 Because they're vicious.

01:01:56.000 You wouldn't be able to get away from them.

01:01:56.000 100%.

01:01:58.000 Do you think they have feelings?

01:02:00.000 I don't think so.

01:02:01.000 I think they're the scariest life form to me.

01:02:05.000 Why?

01:02:05.000 Because they're so strong for their size.

01:02:08.000 They're way, way, way – like you can't even – like I've seen praying mantis snatch hummingbirds off of a bird feeder and kill them.

01:02:16.000 And the serious?

01:02:18.000 They wait on a bird feeder.

01:02:18.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:20.000 They sit there like this, and they just wait.

01:02:22.000 And they don't move.

01:02:23.000 And the hummingbird doesn't recognize them.

01:02:23.000 They don't move.

01:02:25.000 The hummingbird comes over, eats out of the bird feeder, and just snatches them.

01:02:28.000 And the bird's way bigger than the mantis.

01:02:32.000 And the mantis can hold on to the hummingbird.

01:02:34.000 Where did it take it?

01:02:35.000 Where did it take it?

01:02:36.000 Kill and eat it right there.

01:02:37.000 Really?

01:02:38.000 Sure.

01:02:40.000 But aren't they small?

01:02:42.000 Exactly.

01:02:43.000 That's why we're lucky that they're really small.

01:02:45.000 Because if they were the size of like a dog, they would 100% be able to kill you.

01:02:49.000 Just like that monkey is super strong.

01:02:51.000 Well, if a mantis is the size of that monkey, the monkey would have no chance.

01:02:54.000 That mantis would just snatch it and just start eating it.

01:02:57.000 That's a good point.

01:02:58.000 Because that guy, because a monkey must look at a man and think that guy is bigger than me, but I don't care.

01:03:04.000 I'm going for it.

01:03:05.000 Yeah, well, I don't think they have any respect for people.

01:03:08.000 I think their interactions with people are that people are soft and that they're scared of them.

01:03:12.000 And so that's how.

01:03:14.000 But what's the monkey going to do with the scalp?

01:03:17.000 See, look at that mantis.

01:03:17.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:18.000 See him sitting there?

01:03:19.000 Yeah.

01:03:20.000 Yeah.

01:03:20.000 The hummingbird doesn't know what's going on.

01:03:22.000 He's just motionless.

01:03:25.000 And so as the hummingbird gets close, tries to get a little water.

01:03:31.000 Oh, no.

01:03:32.000 And watch how it snatches it to it so fast.

01:03:34.000 Why is it right there?

01:03:36.000 Bang.

01:03:37.000 Gotcha.

01:03:38.000 Oh.

01:03:40.000 Look at the size of the bird.

01:03:41.000 I mean, the body mass of the bird has got to be a lot more than the mantis.

01:03:46.000 And the mantis is just holding on to it definitively.

01:03:49.000 Like it has no chance.

01:03:50.000 Oh, the guy knocked it loose.

01:03:52.000 What a bitch.

01:03:53.000 That is.

01:03:54.000 What nature happened, bro?

01:03:55.000 So crazy.

01:03:57.000 Really crazy.

01:03:58.000 It just gets it.

01:03:59.000 So there's other ones where you see the mantis like hanging on and eating it.

01:04:05.000 They're incredible little creatures.

01:04:07.000 Is that what they mostly eat?

01:04:08.000 It's hummingbirds?

01:04:09.000 No, they eat all kinds of stuff.

01:04:11.000 But this one is just sitting there eating a hummingbird.

01:04:13.000 Ew.

01:04:14.000 The other weird thing is the amount that they can eat.

01:04:17.000 Yeah, that's why it looks like a tiny twig.

01:04:20.000 Exactly.

01:04:21.000 Oh, how can it eat a hummingbird?

01:04:22.000 There's a video.

01:04:24.000 Well, there's one Instagram page that I follow that's just mantises eating a bunch of different bugs.

01:04:29.000 I like it.

01:04:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:04:33.000 I follow it.

01:04:34.000 Is it relaxing or is it just fascinating?

01:04:36.000 It's just like gets your mind off of politics.

01:04:38.000 Just weird.

01:04:39.000 Weird to watch this creature, and it eats a roach that's like bigger than it.

01:04:43.000 And it eats the whole thing.

01:04:47.000 This guy just gets this roach.

01:04:48.000 Look at the size of that roach.

01:04:49.000 He's just going to chew through that entire roach.

01:04:52.000 And that sucker's still alive for the beginning.

01:04:54.000 He just eats his head, and then he stops being alive, and then he just goes right through him.

01:04:59.000 This is nuts.

01:04:59.000 Like, look at this.

01:05:01.000 And then do you think it doesn't eat again for a long time, like snake?

01:05:04.000 Probably.

01:05:05.000 Probably doesn't have to.

01:05:06.000 Ew.

01:05:07.000 Just look at it.

01:05:09.000 Eat its legs.

01:05:10.000 And it keeps going and it eats the entire thing.

01:05:12.000 Like, there's nothing left of that roach.

01:05:15.000 And that roach is as big as him.

01:05:16.000 Like, where'd it go?

01:05:18.000 How are you doing that?

01:05:19.000 I don't know.

01:05:20.000 You ever see a fat praying mantis?

01:05:22.000 No, they don't exist.

01:05:23.000 I hardly see them.

01:05:25.000 Oh, but I haven't been looking.

01:05:27.000 Look, there's the page.

01:05:28.000 Yeah, you have a highlights reel on it.

01:05:30.000 You have a highlights reel.

01:05:34.000 That's hilarious.

01:05:35.000 It's called Cryptic Mantis.

01:05:37.000 It's just all them eating.

01:05:38.000 Is that what the name of it is?

01:05:39.000 What is it?

01:05:39.000 Cryptic.

01:05:40.000 Yeah, Cryptic with a K mantis.

01:05:43.000 And their eyeballs are crazy.

01:05:46.000 Yeah, it's a weird animal.

01:05:48.000 I mean, if that insect was big, it would be a real problem.

01:05:52.000 So look, he's like dangling that roach in front of it and just snatches it.

01:05:55.000 Ooh.

01:05:56.000 I mean, that's like you eating a poodle.

01:05:58.000 It's crazy.

01:05:59.000 It just eats the whole thing in one second.

01:06:01.000 The whole poodle.

01:06:01.000 The whole thing.

01:06:03.000 The nose, the head, eyeballs, the tail, everything.

01:06:06.000 It just eats everything.

01:06:08.000 Yeah, but that exists in nature.

01:06:08.000 Ew.

01:06:11.000 I mean, we're playing a totally different game.

01:06:14.000 You know, our game is soft.

01:06:18.000 Yeah, look at that thing.

01:06:18.000 Yeah.

01:06:19.000 Yeah.

01:06:20.000 A Peruvian dragon mantis.

01:06:22.000 Yeah, imagine that was like big.

01:06:24.000 Imagine that that thing was like the size of a giraffe.

01:06:26.000 It'd be a giant problem.

01:06:27.000 It just runs into a city and eats everybody.

01:06:30.000 Sounds like a movie.

01:06:31.000 Does.

01:06:32.000 Oh.

01:06:33.000 That's how actresses think.

01:06:36.000 That sounds like a great movie.

01:06:39.000 I could be the scientist.

01:06:42.000 The mantis gets stuck in a tube with a guy's head.

01:06:46.000 Yeah.

01:06:47.000 Something like that.

01:06:48.000 Dumb, dumb, dumb.

01:06:49.000 Like the fly.

01:06:50.000 Remember that Jeff Goldblue movie?

01:06:51.000 Of course.

01:06:52.000 That movie was great.

01:06:53.000 And that was a remake of an earlier one.

01:06:53.000 Of course.

01:06:55.000 There was an earlier The Fly movie, which was a lot weirder.

01:07:01.000 Well, it was weird for the time because the guy had like a weird costume on, like, a fly head on, but like a person's body.

01:07:01.000 Really?

01:07:07.000 But the fly was cool because you see Jeff Goldblum, like that's the original fly.

01:07:12.000 Oh, say like a one human hand, one fly hand.

01:07:16.000 But the goldbloom one was great.

01:07:17.000 No, I love Jeff Goldblum.

01:07:20.000 So this guy just had like a mask on.

01:07:21.000 He's like a regular dude with a mask.

01:07:23.000 I'm the fly.

01:07:25.000 You know, but I got a hand.

01:07:27.000 The goldbloom one was cool because you see like him start to slowly turn mad.

01:07:32.000 Yes, and his mannerisms and he was a great weird spike start poking out of his skin.

01:07:37.000 He's like, what is this?

01:07:39.000 He didn't realize that a fly had gotten in there with him and they'd matched DNA.

01:07:43.000 Jeff Goldblum's great.

01:07:44.000 Oh, he's great.

01:07:45.000 He's, yeah.

01:07:47.000 He's very, he's very, very intense and at the same time, very likable.

01:07:54.000 Yeah, fun, jolly.

01:07:55.000 Tell me about you.

01:07:56.000 Yeah.

01:07:57.000 Tell me what makes Cheryl work.

01:08:00.000 Well, him and Jurassic Park really helped make that movie.

01:08:04.000 Like the rational scientist that was like, okay, what have you done?

01:08:10.000 You know?

01:08:12.000 Because you could do it.

01:08:13.000 You never decided whether you should do it.

01:08:16.000 You know, you know, yeah, he's always thinking.

01:08:19.000 Yeah.

01:08:20.000 Not judging, not freaking out.

01:08:22.000 Well, definitely sort of judging.

01:08:25.000 But it was just that, like, yeah, there should be a fucking scientist that says, what are you doing?

01:08:31.000 Yeah.

01:08:31.000 Like, what are you doing?

01:08:33.000 Are you sure you should be doing?

01:08:34.000 Yeah, these don't belong here.

01:08:35.000 These, these are from a time where we weren't around.

01:08:38.000 You shouldn't bring them here.

01:08:39.000 We can't compete with them.

01:08:40.000 If it wasn't for that big rock that hit the Yucatan, we probably would have never become people because they would have been around.

01:08:47.000 I never saw Jurassic Park.

01:08:49.000 What?

01:08:50.000 What?

01:08:51.000 How?

01:08:52.000 How'd you avoid that movie?

01:08:53.000 It's one of the greatest movies of all time.

01:08:54.000 No, it didn't sound good to me.

01:08:57.000 Like dinosaurs.

01:08:59.000 It's so good.

01:09:01.000 It's such a good movie.

01:09:03.000 It's such a good movie, too, because it was like one of the first movies that used CGI, but they did it really well.

01:09:10.000 Yeah.

01:09:11.000 And the thing about CGI with dinosaurs is it's so different than CGI with like, do you remember I Am Legend?

01:09:19.000 The Will Smith movie?

01:09:20.000 No.

01:09:20.000 Never saw that one?

01:09:21.000 Is it science fiction?

01:09:22.000 Yes.

01:09:22.000 I don't watch science fiction.

01:09:25.000 It's a zombie movie, essentially.

01:09:27.000 Yeah.

01:09:27.000 Like a disease sweeps over the, but in that movie, there's a there's CGI lions in New York City, and they look so vague.

01:09:37.000 They look bad.

01:09:38.000 Oh, really?

01:09:38.000 Yeah, because what was that?

01:09:40.000 That was like 2010.

01:09:43.000 Was it even?

01:09:44.000 I feel like it was earlier than that.

01:09:46.000 When was I Am Legend?

01:09:48.000 2007?

01:09:48.000 Seven.

01:09:49.000 Okay, but go ahead.

01:09:50.000 You were going to say why.

01:09:51.000 Because you know what a lion looks like.

01:09:53.000 You don't really know what a dinosaur looks like.

01:09:56.000 So your brain doesn't register that.

01:09:58.000 Oh, that looks fake.

01:09:59.000 Right, right.

01:10:00.000 So when you see the T-Rex, when he comes over the fence, and also the way they shot it, like Spielberg is a genius.

01:10:00.000 Yeah.

01:10:05.000 Yeah.

01:10:06.000 The way they shot it at night, where it's kind of like, you know, in the jungle, so it's like partially obscured.

01:10:11.000 You ever seen the scene where the T-Rex emerges for the first time when the kids are in the car?

01:10:16.000 Oh, you need to see this.

01:10:17.000 I have so many things to look up tonight.

01:10:20.000 I have so many rabbit holes to go down.

01:10:24.000 How have you not seen this movie?

01:10:25.000 I don't know.

01:10:26.000 The original Jurassic Park is one of my favorite movies ever.

01:10:30.000 I love it.

01:10:30.000 I did have to watch it.

01:10:30.000 Okay, I love it.

01:10:31.000 I loved it because for me, it's a real potential possibility.

01:10:37.000 I'm friends with the guys over at Colossal.

01:10:39.000 Those are the guys that brought back the dire wolf.

01:10:42.000 Like, they have actual dire wolves now.

01:10:43.000 What is a dire wolf?

01:10:45.000 A dire wolf is an extinct breed of wolf.

01:10:47.000 And I know there's geneticists out there that are freaking out.

01:10:50.000 That's not a dire wolf.

01:10:51.000 It's not.

01:10:52.000 What they've done is just taken the characteristics of a dire wolf and recreated it.

01:10:57.000 Are they like the dark?

01:10:57.000 Are they small?

01:10:58.000 They're very big.

01:10:59.000 They're bigger than a regular wolf.

01:11:01.000 Like they have a mane and they're all white.

01:11:01.000 And they're weird looking.

01:11:05.000 Like they're really cool looking.

01:11:07.000 Yeah, and they walk on our all fours.

01:11:09.000 Oh, yeah, dumb question.

01:11:10.000 Of course.

01:11:10.000 Well, now I'm thinking about your werewolf in London.

01:11:14.000 Oh, he walks on all fours too.

01:11:16.000 Does he's from American werewolf in London?

01:11:18.000 But he can't.

01:11:18.000 No, that's a dire wolf.

01:11:20.000 So that's the colossal guys.

01:11:22.000 Yeah, they're really interesting.

01:11:23.000 It's really interesting because you see them.

01:11:25.000 Wow, it's really pretty.

01:11:26.000 And when I saw them, it was in the summertime and they apparently were about six months old and they're going to get a lot larger.

01:11:36.000 Oh, wait, so they came back from extinction as well?

01:11:38.000 Yeah, they brought them back from extinction through genetic engineering.

01:11:43.000 They have dire wolf DNA.

01:11:45.000 They have dire wolf DNA.

01:11:46.000 They mixed it with gray wolf DNA.

01:11:48.000 I don't know how they did it.

01:11:49.000 They could tell me.

01:11:50.000 I'll forget five minutes later.

01:11:52.000 But whatever it is, that's a different thing that ever existed before since the dire wolves went extinct.

01:11:58.000 Wow.

01:11:59.000 Yeah.

01:11:59.000 So my fear is that these assholes, not these guys, but that someone, some scientific asshole, will make a Jurassic Park.

01:12:06.000 Will say, hey, you know, we found an island that we can buy that's, you know, 50,000 square acres or whatever it is.

01:12:15.000 And we're going to take and put a few dinosaurs on this island and make it so that people can go visit it.

01:12:20.000 Like, that's possible.

01:12:22.000 People could do that.

01:12:24.000 Well, it sounds possible, but it doesn't sound worse than like AI things that could be done on your computer and to our brains.

01:12:37.000 Like, like you're more afraid of AI than you are of dinosaurs.

01:12:41.000 That's rational because AI is more likely.

01:12:43.000 Yeah, because if somebody said, hey, you could go visit this island that has dinosaurs, at least I'd have a choice.

01:12:48.000 And I'd be like, no, thanks.

01:12:52.000 But like, I will sometimes, if you're just talking about a poncho, a poncho?

01:13:00.000 Like a like you get like a poncho that, you know, like a little blanket that has a hole in it.

01:13:00.000 Yeah.

01:13:04.000 Got it.

01:13:05.000 It's a word that doesn't come up much.

01:13:07.000 But when it came up, I'm just talking to my friend about a poncho.

01:13:12.000 And then all of a sudden on my phone, they're like, lots of ads.

01:13:16.000 Yeah.

01:13:17.000 So it's that's wonder if I'm going to get some now.

01:13:19.000 You are.

01:13:20.000 Poncho ads.

01:13:20.000 You're going to get some poncho ads.

01:13:21.000 I've never had a poncho ad.

01:13:23.000 If I get one right now, I'll know.

01:13:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:13:25.000 No.

01:13:26.000 You are, we're all dialed in somehow.

01:13:29.000 Well, that's for sure.

01:13:31.000 So I would rather have, I would rather have, I would rather be running away from a I would rather die from being squashed by a dinosaur than just go crazy from thoughts of things that have been put into my head from AI.

01:13:51.000 Does that make sense?

01:13:53.000 Sort of.

01:13:54.000 I don't want to die either way.

01:13:55.000 Right.

01:13:56.000 I don't want to die.

01:13:56.000 Well, if you had to choose.

01:13:58.000 I don't want to die by dinosaur.

01:14:00.000 If you had to choose one or the other.

01:14:02.000 I really don't think either one is preferable.

01:14:05.000 I think the dinosaur is more unlikely.

01:14:08.000 The AI one seems very possible.

01:14:12.000 There's not a real good roadmap that I've seen where AI is not completely disruptive in every aspect of our life.

01:14:24.000 And the only people that do provide that roadmap seem to be profiting off of AI.

01:14:28.000 You know, some people think it's going to increase productivity.

01:14:28.000 Yeah.

01:14:31.000 Like Elon thinks it's going to increase productivity to the point where we'll have no one will have to work anymore and you'll have what they call universal high income.

01:14:39.000 That's what he's calling it.

01:14:41.000 But then you have this real problem of what do people do with their time?

01:14:45.000 Right.

01:14:45.000 Like how do so many people really identify with whatever they do as a job.

01:14:51.000 Right.

01:14:53.000 And it gives you a sense of purpose, right?

01:14:54.000 Most people need a sense of purpose to be have a to feel happy.

01:14:59.000 They also like providing for themselves.

01:15:01.000 Like people like the fact that you work all week, you come home, you get your paycheck, and you know, now you can go to the restaurant, and it's all your money.

01:15:10.000 You bought it, you worked hard, and now, you know, you bought whatever you bought.

01:15:15.000 Like, you paid for it, a poncho.

01:15:16.000 You paid for it with your labor.

01:15:20.000 People like being good at something, right?

01:15:22.000 If you're the guy that, you know, if there's something going on, you need something fixed, and you go to Henry.

01:15:26.000 Like, Henry loves the fact that Cheryl calls him up because she knows that he knows how to fix things.

01:15:31.000 Yeah.

01:15:32.000 What do we do with Henry when Henry loses his, like, we say, your job's useless.

01:15:37.000 You're basically like a guy who owns Blockbuster Video.

01:15:40.000 Well, is that like very, very wealthy people that are born into money that don't have to work, that don't have to?

01:15:49.000 That's even worse, right?

01:15:50.000 Because that's like very wealthy people that are born into money have never had to prove themselves.

01:15:55.000 They've always been more special than everybody else.

01:15:57.000 If everybody has universal high income, that won't be a unique thing.

01:16:01.000 It'll be basic.

01:16:02.000 So optimistically, I would say the optimistic take on it is if that was the case, the real positive aspect is you wouldn't have to work for your basic needs.

01:16:14.000 And what you could decide to do instead is pursue something that you're really interested in.

01:16:19.000 Like maybe.

01:16:19.000 Become an expert in something.

01:16:20.000 Yeah.

01:16:21.000 Or study a bunch of different languages all day.

01:16:25.000 But will people?

01:16:26.000 Some people will.

01:16:27.000 Yeah.

01:16:28.000 But I think that's always the case.

01:16:30.000 Some people would take advantage of a situation and like some people during COVID.

01:16:30.000 That's true.

01:16:34.000 Yeah.

01:16:34.000 They said, okay, some people just became alcoholics and they lost everything.

01:16:39.000 Some people said, I'm going to start a side business.

01:16:41.000 I'm going to start an online business because an online business, they can't shut down during a pandemic.

01:16:45.000 And a lot of people become very profitable because of that.

01:16:50.000 It's like, why do we need to just work all day?

01:16:55.000 If you're a laborer, is that really the only use of your time?

01:16:59.000 Like if you're doing it for food, I get it.

01:17:02.000 You're doing it for housing.

01:17:03.000 I get it.

01:17:04.000 It's a good job.

01:17:05.000 It's a solid, honest way to make a living.

01:17:07.000 But if you don't have to do that anymore, and then you just get money from the government and from whatever income AI is generating, wouldn't you rather play soccer or go do this or whatever your thing is?

01:17:21.000 Yeah.

01:17:21.000 Painting, whatever your thing is.

01:17:23.000 Right.

01:17:23.000 You know, you could find anything.

01:17:26.000 You could find a thing that gives you meaning other than just your work.

01:17:30.000 Right.

01:17:30.000 Because if you're working in a factory and you're just putting the dial on the box, it's not fulfilling and you're not going anywhere and you're not doing anything.

01:17:38.000 That stuff has only been around for a while, like a small amount of time.

01:17:42.000 Like being a worker in a factory or an office.

01:17:45.000 How long has that even been around?

01:17:46.000 The idea that we can't exist without that being around is crazy.

01:17:49.000 Because for thousands and thousands of years, there was no money.

01:17:49.000 Yeah.

01:17:52.000 People just like hunted and fished and traded things and started raising animals.

01:17:58.000 There's no money.

01:17:59.000 You basically just tried to stay alive by gathering food.

01:18:03.000 So do you think that if nobody had to work, that we could do without money altogether?

01:18:11.000 That money could disappear and then that's a scary thing because someone's going to have it.

01:18:17.000 There's going to be resources.

01:18:18.000 But then, if there's no value to it.

01:18:19.000 Yeah, but there's always going to be value.

01:18:21.000 Like this is the scariest thing.

01:18:23.000 From country to country or worldwide or everything.

01:18:25.000 The control of resources.

01:18:27.000 Resources are always going to be valuable.

01:18:28.000 It's always going to be valuable to have oil.

01:18:30.000 If you have oil, you can do so many things.

01:18:32.000 You could make gasoline.

01:18:34.000 You could power things.

01:18:34.000 You make plastics.

01:18:35.000 Everything comes out of oil.

01:18:36.000 Everything is petroleum-based.

01:18:37.000 Even your medicine is petroleum-based.

01:18:40.000 Yeah, but if nobody was paying you to make it.

01:18:45.000 So everything's free.

01:18:46.000 That's the idea?

01:18:48.000 How is that possible?

01:18:49.000 Because then no one would want to make a Ferrari.

01:18:51.000 Because the only reason why you would make a Ferrari is because it's hard to get, so it costs a lot of money.

01:18:55.000 Well, if AI is taking over and taking all of those jobs, When the idea is that nobody's going to have to work.

01:19:02.000 Well, if nobody has to work, then the cars are still being made, right?

01:19:08.000 Maybe.

01:19:10.000 Maybe they decide how many cars get made and how many people can have a car.

01:19:15.000 Wow.

01:19:17.000 Yeah.

01:19:17.000 This is the way they need a car.

01:19:19.000 Like Oxford, England just established this new, they're doing this thing called like 15 Minute Cities.

01:19:26.000 We have like an area where you're allowed to travel to.

01:19:29.000 And if you decide to travel outside of that area, you get a certain amount of them per year.

01:19:35.000 Wait, you get a certain amount of what?

01:19:36.000 Travel passes to leave your area.

01:19:38.000 It was a congestion zone.

01:19:40.000 Okay.

01:19:41.000 Whatever.

01:19:42.000 I'm just, that's what it was.

01:19:43.000 You call it whatever you want, but whatever it is, it's the government telling you you can't leave an area.

01:19:50.000 And if you leave that area, it costs you money.

01:19:53.000 So it costs you the equivalent of like $100 a day to leave this area.

01:19:57.000 Wow.

01:19:58.000 If you get over a certain number of them.

01:20:00.000 It's similar to what they did in New York City.

01:20:02.000 However, they stopped it in New York, remember?

01:20:04.000 Yeah, well, it's crazy.

01:20:06.000 That's why they stopped it because this is the beginning of a terrible trend.

01:20:09.000 So what this is, is the beginning of them telling you where you can go and how often you can go.

01:20:14.000 And this is the government doing it.

01:20:16.000 And the temporary congestion charge.

01:20:18.000 They've been proposing stiff like this.

01:20:18.000 Bullshit.

01:20:21.000 It's bullshit.

01:20:22.000 They've been proposing that they want to do it.

01:20:24.000 They want to control people.

01:20:25.000 They want to be able to tell you where you can and can't go.

01:20:27.000 The more they can put restrictions on you, the more they can pass laws that they can profit from.

01:20:32.000 The more they can benefit from whatever control they have over you.

01:20:36.000 The more they can tighten down on it.

01:20:37.000 And England's a great place to do this because they've already gotten things passed through in England.

01:20:42.000 Like England doesn't have jury trials anymore, except for like murder and rape and a few other things.

01:20:48.000 All it's a judge.

01:20:49.000 So one person.

01:20:50.000 All the people that are getting arrested for social media abuses.

01:20:53.000 It's just one person deciding.

01:20:54.000 No, it's different judges.

01:20:56.000 It's wherever you get brought up, wherever you get arrested for.

01:20:59.000 Right.

01:20:59.000 They arrested 12,000 judge.

01:21:01.000 One judge, yes.

01:21:01.000 Just deciding their fate.

01:21:03.000 Right.

01:21:04.000 Whether they like it or not.

01:21:05.000 Without a doubt, they're going to go with whatever the government wants.

01:21:08.000 And they've arrested 12,000 people over the last year for social media posts, just in England.

01:21:13.000 I know, that's intense.

01:21:14.000 So that's the place where they're, oh, it's a congestion zone.

01:21:17.000 Fuck off.

01:21:18.000 I asked you last week, what we don't know, because we're not there.

01:21:22.000 People will get bussed into that area already because it's already congested as fuck.

01:21:27.000 I don't care.

01:21:28.000 I don't care what's going on.

01:21:30.000 That's Bangladesh, okay?

01:21:31.000 That's New York City.

01:21:32.000 That's a lot of places.

01:21:33.000 That's L.A.

01:21:34.000 Yeah.

01:21:35.000 You don't get to control whether or not people can leave an area.

01:21:38.000 I understand.

01:21:39.000 Period.

01:21:40.000 It doesn't matter what you call it.

01:21:42.000 But this was because they closed the road.

01:21:43.000 I don't care.

01:21:44.000 They closed the road temporarily, and so they had to put up some.

01:21:47.000 It's a terrible precedent.

01:21:48.000 It's like what they did with COVID.

01:21:50.000 They shut down this two weeks to stop the spread.

01:21:52.000 And what happened?

01:21:53.000 It lasted a year and a half in L.A. Like, it's not, you don't give them that kind of control.

01:21:58.000 You can't have ever the control to tell people whether they can or can't leave an area.

01:22:02.000 That's crazy.

01:22:02.000 Fuck off.

01:22:03.000 They're houses.

01:22:04.000 But for a while, like you weren't even allowed to go outside.

01:22:09.000 So don't go outside.

01:22:10.000 Dip shit mayor who is saying, usually snitches get stitches, but now they get rewards.

01:22:15.000 Do you remember that?

01:22:16.000 In L.A., they were telling you to turn your neighbors off.

01:22:18.000 No, I don't remember it in L.A., but I remember it in other states.

01:22:22.000 In L.A.

01:22:23.000 The Mayor.

01:22:25.000 What was that Cook's name?

01:22:26.000 It was the mayor of L.A.

01:22:28.000 He was, he thought he was on the right side of everything until Black Lives Matter started protesting outside his house every day for like a month.

01:22:35.000 Garcetti.

01:22:36.000 That creep.

01:22:36.000 Oh, Garcetti.

01:22:37.000 That guy, he find that thing, that snitches usually get stitches, but now they get rewards.

01:22:45.000 Like, literally said that.

01:22:46.000 That is so crazy.

01:22:48.000 Snitches.

01:22:48.000 Snitching on your neighbor for having too many people over.

01:22:52.000 That is so crazy.

01:22:53.000 People were exactly five feet apart from each other.

01:23:00.000 If you've observed recurring violations of the safer at home order, please continue to let us know at coronavirus.lacity.org slash business violation.

01:23:10.000 You know the old expression about snitches.

01:23:13.000 Well, in this case, snitches get rewards.

01:23:16.000 We want to thank you for turning folks in and making sure we are all safe.

01:23:21.000 It would be cool if that lady who was doing sign language is just faking it.

01:23:25.000 Sometimes nobody knows.

01:23:27.000 He's still going after he's still talking.

01:23:28.000 He's done talking and she's just like, hey, over here.

01:23:31.000 Well, nobody, you know, very few people know American Sign Language, so she could have been faking it.

01:23:35.000 Like a bunch of people have been faking it before and they got caught.

01:23:38.000 No.

01:23:38.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:23:39.000 There was a guy next to Obama when Obama was giving a speech once, and this guy was completely making it up.

01:23:46.000 Come on.

01:23:47.000 Con man.

01:23:48.000 Come on.

01:23:49.000 He tricked himself into being three feet from Obama.

01:23:52.000 No security screening.

01:23:54.000 Just nobody knows how to validate.

01:23:57.000 I don't believe it was America.

01:23:58.000 I think it was somewhere else.

01:23:59.000 Oh, my God.

01:24:00.000 I took a break.

01:24:01.000 So they let this guy on stage, and you can tell he's just making things up.

01:24:04.000 Oh, he's like doing this.

01:24:05.000 Oh, my God.

01:24:07.000 He's like fake sign language.

01:24:08.000 You've never seen this?

01:24:09.000 Find the guy's fake sign language with Obama.

01:24:09.000 No.

01:24:11.000 How did they, did he get, did he get busted during the speech?

01:24:15.000 Sign language people, this guy right here.

01:24:19.000 So this guy on the right, or yeah, that guy?

01:24:23.000 He's completely making shit up.

01:24:25.000 So wait for Obama to get.

01:24:26.000 So this is the Mandela memorial.

01:24:29.000 When does Obama come out?

01:24:31.000 There's one with Obama next to the guy.

01:24:33.000 Yeah, my name is.

01:24:34.000 So that was what it was.

01:24:36.000 So that's the guy.

01:24:36.000 See, he's leaving right next to him.

01:24:38.000 Oh, my God.

01:24:39.000 The guy was like completely faking sign language.

01:24:41.000 He's just a kook.

01:24:42.000 He was like, I can do it.

01:24:43.000 Yeah, I'm good at it.

01:24:44.000 Let me up there.

01:24:46.000 That is crazy.

01:24:50.000 People are nuts.

01:24:51.000 People are nuts.

01:24:52.000 You should know that.

01:24:53.000 As much as anybody.

01:24:54.000 Listen, I've learned it over and over again.

01:24:58.000 And they're even nuttier at a level that I didn't know.

01:25:03.000 What was the big turning point for you?

01:25:05.000 Was it just being attached to Bobby and watching all that?

01:25:10.000 It was Bobby running for president.

01:25:14.000 It was so crazy.

01:25:18.000 I mean, I really got a crash course in elections.

01:25:24.000 And it is the craziest shit goes on.

01:25:29.000 And everybody is, that's all they think about.

01:25:34.000 You know, the people that are involved, they get up in the morning.

01:25:37.000 How can I fuck this guy over?

01:25:40.000 I'm going to say, and they have these people that their only job is to start a rumor, is to say something, put something in the press that doesn't matter if it's true or not.

01:25:52.000 If somebody else picks it up, they celebrate for the whole day.

01:25:56.000 And it's like that story, whatever it was, the thing that they said gets picked up.

01:26:03.000 That is like a day of celebration.

01:26:05.000 It's a celebration from the other camps.

01:26:08.000 And then it's like your camp is now trying to figure out what to do about that or what kind of damage it's going to do.

01:26:19.000 And is it worth even fighting?

01:26:22.000 Or is it better to just let it wither on the vine?

01:26:26.000 It's just all day, every day, people are trying to find the craziest, craziest.

01:26:35.000 Doesn't matter.

01:26:37.000 It doesn't matter if it's about, certainly if it's about politics or not.

01:26:41.000 It's more exciting if it's something personal.

01:26:44.000 Oh, he's wearing lifts in his boots.

01:26:48.000 Oh, he's, and it's just.

01:26:50.000 But that is an important thing.

01:26:51.000 If someone's wearing lifts in their boots, like, hey, How are you going to govern this country?

01:26:58.000 It's so tall.

01:26:59.000 Out of nowhere.

01:27:00.000 It is absurd.

01:27:01.000 It's absurd.

01:27:02.000 It's absurd.

01:27:03.000 It's a very behavior.

01:27:05.000 Well, who gives a shit?

01:27:07.000 You can wear heels.

01:27:08.000 But if a man does it and he's lying about it, I think that as a short.

01:27:08.000 Right.

01:27:12.000 So did anybody ask?

01:27:14.000 I think they did.

01:27:15.000 I think they asked.

01:27:16.000 You're talking about homeboy from Florida.

01:27:18.000 Yeah, I think they asked and he denied it.

01:27:20.000 But it was pretty clear.

01:27:21.000 There was like one podcast or one talk show, one of those late night shows where he walked out and I was like, why?

01:27:27.000 You're walking like a horse.

01:27:29.000 Like, you're clearly on your tippy toes.

01:27:31.000 This is crazy.

01:27:32.000 You've added like five inches to your height.

01:27:34.000 This is bananas and it's all inside your boots.

01:27:36.000 And then that's what everybody's talking about.

01:27:38.000 Well, don't do that.

01:27:39.000 Don't do that.

01:27:40.000 No one's going to talk.

01:27:41.000 That's like a self-inflicted wound.

01:27:42.000 But then it's like, oh, well, he's too short to govern the country.

01:27:46.000 That's crazy.

01:27:46.000 If people think that, that's on that.

01:27:48.000 Oh, people are crazy.

01:27:50.000 Yeah, but they're not going to think you're taller than you really are.

01:27:53.000 Like, they've seen you for fucking decades.

01:27:55.000 He's been in the public eye forever and then all of a sudden he gains four inches.

01:27:58.000 Everybody's like, what's going on?

01:27:59.000 Like, people know.

01:28:01.000 You can't, they're scrutinizing everything.

01:28:03.000 You know, you can't pull the wool over their eyes that hard.

01:28:07.000 But it also, it shows like this weird thing where you're so worried about what people think about you that you're willing to wear lifts in your shoes.

01:28:16.000 And again, I say this as a short man.

01:28:18.000 You know, it's like, it's important.

01:28:19.000 Like, you just be authentic.

01:28:22.000 Because you're not being authentic.

01:28:23.000 That's who you are.

01:28:25.000 You're not going to change people's opinion of you if you wear a fucking stilt.

01:28:25.000 Yeah.

01:28:29.000 But what does it matter?

01:28:30.000 Like, if a guy had a toupee and he was running for president, would you be like, nah, no.

01:28:38.000 Because it might make him feel better to fucking.

01:28:41.000 Fuck your feelings.

01:28:42.000 Take that fucking wig off.

01:28:48.000 You should run a campaign.

01:28:49.000 Especially if you're wearing a wig and all of a sudden you put it on and you expect me to ignore it.

01:28:54.000 That's crazy.

01:28:55.000 That's crazy.

01:28:56.000 If you're like bald forever and then all of a sudden you win.

01:28:58.000 And the day that you start wearing it.

01:29:00.000 Yeah.

01:29:01.000 There must be a day in somebody's life when it's like, I'm just going to go for it and hope nobody.

01:29:06.000 Well, there's a bunch of like really smart people who have them on, which is really weird.

01:29:10.000 It's like, how can you be so smart and you don't know that that thing on your head is ridiculous?

01:29:15.000 Like you were bald and now you're not.

01:29:18.000 And I'm supposed to just go, hey, congratulations on growing all your hair back.

01:29:22.000 This is fucking nuts.

01:29:24.000 So you find it so distracting.

01:29:27.000 No, I just find it a character flaw.

01:29:29.000 Ah, I see, I see.

01:29:30.000 Right?

01:29:30.000 It's like you're a 60-year-old man and you're concerned with looking attractive at this stage of your life?

01:29:39.000 Like, come on.

01:29:40.000 Let it go.

01:29:41.000 This is a crazy thing.

01:29:42.000 Whatever was going to happen should have already happened.

01:29:44.000 And at this point.

01:29:45.000 This is a crazy thing to concentrate on, especially if you want to be taken seriously.

01:29:48.000 Like you should.

01:29:49.000 But so what about a guy in his that's 25 that's wearing a cake?

01:29:54.000 It's that.

01:29:55.000 Look, it's like male hair loss is devastating people talking about.

01:29:58.000 Again, I was a bald guy.

01:29:59.000 Yeah, I got hair transplants.

01:30:01.000 I did the whole thing.

01:30:02.000 I tried monoxidal and all the other different things.

01:30:05.000 It's like it's you don't have any control over it.

01:30:07.000 And apparently now, like, supposedly UCLA has a new remedy that just grows your hair back.

01:30:14.000 And it's in tests right now.

01:30:16.000 And they're going to be able to put it on your hair.

01:30:17.000 It's probably going to make a trillion dollars.

01:30:19.000 Is it that they, is it like a helmet that you put on your hands?

01:30:21.000 No, no, no.

01:30:21.000 It's like some kind of medication that you topically apply and it grows hair, grows hair on mice.

01:30:26.000 And apparently it's going to work.

01:30:28.000 I mean, it's kind of amazing that they haven't cracked that code yet.

01:30:32.000 But one day they will.

01:30:34.000 And if the UCLA thing, then the wig business goes out of business.

01:30:38.000 Then would you take it?

01:30:39.000 No.

01:30:39.000 Even if I did, I would shave my head.

01:30:41.000 Why?

01:30:42.000 I love it.

01:30:42.000 100%.

01:30:43.000 I love having a shave head.

01:30:44.000 I love not having to talk to a barber.

01:30:46.000 I don't give a shit what I look like.

01:30:49.000 I'd rather shave your head than have a meaningless conversation for 10 minutes.

01:30:54.000 100%.

01:30:55.000 Do you shave it every day?

01:30:56.000 Like every day?

01:30:57.000 No, I shave it every couple.

01:30:57.000 I shaved it this morning, but I shave it every couple days.

01:31:00.000 But if you're not.

01:31:01.000 So if I said, if you take this tomorrow, you'll have a full head of hair.

01:31:07.000 You'd be like, nothing.

01:31:08.000 Maybe I would take it and then just buzz that down and have it really short.

01:31:11.000 But I would have it.

01:31:12.000 So you know it's there.

01:31:13.000 Show everybody.

01:31:14.000 Look, I got my hair back.

01:31:15.000 If I wanted to, I'm going to.

01:31:16.000 I can do it if I wanted to.

01:31:17.000 I don't know how to do it.

01:31:18.000 But I could.

01:31:18.000 I don't know.

01:31:19.000 But I used to love when I had a full head of hair.

01:31:21.000 I used to love having a crew cut.

01:31:23.000 It was my favorite thing.

01:31:24.000 Wow, interesting.

01:31:25.000 Yeah.

01:31:26.000 I just love, like, I love the feeling of it, like when you rub it and you get all the stubble up there like that.

01:31:32.000 And I just don't want to, I don't want to think about it.

01:31:34.000 It's texture.

01:31:36.000 I don't have that.

01:31:37.000 That's it.

01:31:38.000 But when I was in television, I thought about it.

01:31:40.000 I was like, I can't lose my hair.

01:31:42.000 That's why I got a hair transplant.

01:31:43.000 I was like, I'm starting to make money.

01:31:45.000 But that didn't work or you didn't like it?

01:31:46.000 It works for a little while.

01:31:47.000 But the way I describe it, I was like, you take, it's like you take people from a neighborhood where everybody's really healthy and you move them to a neighborhood where everyone's dying.

01:31:56.000 So all your neighbors die.

01:31:57.000 So all the other hair that was supposed to fall out, that falls out.

01:32:01.000 That's falling out.

01:32:01.000 And the only stuff that's left is the stuff you put there.

01:32:03.000 And it looks kind of ratty and sparse.

01:32:05.000 What do you take it from the back?

01:32:07.000 Yeah, they take it from the back here and then you put it to the top.

01:32:09.000 Yeah.

01:32:09.000 A lot of guys go to Turkey now.

01:32:11.000 I know.

01:32:11.000 And they do it and they get their whole head redone.

01:32:13.000 But sometimes you get a weird hairline where it's like a little too low and crazy.

01:32:18.000 It's a little too flat and weird.

01:32:19.000 And you're like, what's going on with your hair?

01:32:21.000 That's hard.

01:32:22.000 Yeah.

01:32:23.000 Because how do you know?

01:32:24.000 Because you're under, you're under.

01:32:26.000 Well, you probably think it's a good idea, and the doctor thinks it's a good idea, and he convinces you.

01:32:30.000 You're like, it's going to look good.

01:32:31.000 He's like, it's going to look amazing.

01:32:33.000 And next thing you look at a wolfman.

01:32:35.000 Are you out completely when you have that?

01:32:37.000 No.

01:32:39.000 The doctor's talking to you and it's like, I'm going to put one here.

01:32:42.000 They don't even talk to you.

01:32:43.000 You could watch a movie or something like that.

01:32:44.000 You just sit there and chill.

01:32:45.000 There's videos of guys doing it online.

01:32:47.000 You know I'm not going to watch it.

01:32:48.000 You can just pull the hairs out and stick them in the little holes.

01:32:51.000 Yeah.

01:32:51.000 I wonder why more women don't do it.

01:32:54.000 Women do it.

01:32:54.000 When women start losing their hair?

01:32:56.000 Yeah.

01:32:57.000 Quite a few of their patients are women.

01:32:58.000 Oh, wow.

01:32:59.000 Because maybe they have alopecia or some more.

01:33:01.000 Yeah.

01:33:02.000 They can't grow it back.

01:33:04.000 So they transplant it.

01:33:05.000 They do.

01:33:06.000 And you're okay with that.

01:33:07.000 Yeah, I'm okay with women wearing wigs, too.

01:33:10.000 You just don't like men wearing wigs.

01:33:11.000 Nope.

01:33:12.000 I don't like men wearing wigs.

01:33:12.000 I don't like it.

01:33:14.000 I don't like men wearing lipstick either.

01:33:17.000 Unless you're a singer or someone freaky, some non-binary person.

01:33:21.000 But you don't want the guy at the grocery store checking you out.

01:33:23.000 Well, I don't care.

01:33:24.000 It's okay.

01:33:25.000 You might be a weirdo.

01:33:26.000 You know, you're allowed to be a weirdo.

01:33:27.000 I don't mind anymore.

01:33:28.000 But if you want me, you want to be like a, if we're all hanging out and we're going to go out to dinner and you show up wearing lipstick and eyeshadow, hey, Bob.

01:33:36.000 What the fuck's going on with your face?

01:33:38.000 Like, if you don't think I'm going to make fun of that, you're crazy.

01:33:40.000 Yeah, okay.

01:33:41.000 So you just make fun of him all night, but you're not so mad that you're not going to go out with him.

01:33:45.000 I mean, it's just, it's a nutty choice.

01:33:47.000 But it's like, I wouldn't want you being the treasurer of the United States fucking lipstick on.

01:33:52.000 It's like, you remember that guy that was working in the Biden administration?

01:33:57.000 That was a man with lipstick and a shaved head, and he was stealing all the women's clothes.

01:34:01.000 He was stealing women's clothes from the airport.

01:34:03.000 Yeah.

01:34:04.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:34:05.000 I mean, listen, that's a crazy person.

01:34:06.000 There were few.

01:34:09.000 There was a few.

01:34:10.000 They were hiring them just because they were weird.

01:34:12.000 They were like, this is going to make us look woke.

01:34:16.000 We're going to hire all the right people.

01:34:18.000 It's going to be very inclusive.

01:34:20.000 Okay, great.

01:34:21.000 You're hiring mentally ill people.

01:34:23.000 You're hiring your man who likes to steal women's clothes from the airport.

01:34:26.000 Yeah, and you're putting him in charge of nuclear energy.

01:34:29.000 I mean, that is.

01:34:31.000 Okay, so this goes back to politics, right?

01:34:34.000 She was like, so you watch that, and then the next election, it's a new group of people, and they're weird.

01:34:40.000 Right.

01:34:41.000 So it's not like just one side is.

01:34:43.000 Oh, no, no, no.

01:34:44.000 No, I don't think, I think that's a big trap to think that it's only the Republicans or only the Democrats that are weird.

01:34:50.000 No, everybody who wants to do that, the vast majority of them are unhinged because that is not a normal job.

01:34:59.000 They're not good at it.

01:35:00.000 That's the other thing.

01:35:01.000 They're not good at talking.

01:35:03.000 They're not good at public speaking.

01:35:05.000 Even the best ones are like, that's why when a guy like Obama or a guy like Clinton comes along, like, holy shit, or Trump.

01:35:12.000 Right.

01:35:13.000 It's so good at like talking to large groups of people and being themselves.

01:35:17.000 So when someone's not good at that, it's like glaringly obvious because most people who are good at that kind of stuff, they don't want that job.

01:35:26.000 Right.

01:35:27.000 That job's horrible.

01:35:29.000 Right.

01:35:30.000 Yeah.

01:35:31.000 That job is crazy.

01:35:32.000 Yeah.

01:35:33.000 Job's nuts.

01:35:34.000 But then do you have to be good at talking?

01:35:37.000 You do.

01:35:37.000 You do because it's part of the campaign trail.

01:35:40.000 Well, right.

01:35:41.000 That's the other thing, too.

01:35:42.000 It's like running for something, being part of a campaign is so different than actually doing it.

01:35:50.000 Yeah.

01:35:51.000 They're completely different.

01:35:52.000 It's like auditioning.

01:35:53.000 It's so much like auditioning.

01:35:55.000 But it's completely different.

01:35:56.000 It's a different.

01:35:57.000 It's a completely different job.

01:36:00.000 Different skill set.

01:36:01.000 Yeah.

01:36:02.000 So it's like, yeah.

01:36:03.000 At least auditioning, you actually acting in the room.

01:36:06.000 Yeah.

01:36:07.000 You know, when you're running for president, you're not running for president in front of everybody.

01:36:11.000 This is how I'm going to do it.

01:36:13.000 You're going to pretend to be my chief of staff.

01:36:15.000 You're going to be the Secretary of Defense.

01:36:15.000 Yeah.

01:36:17.000 And I'm going to put on a play.

01:36:18.000 So I'm going to show you how I would handle it if I ran across the line.

01:36:22.000 I would rather that.

01:36:24.000 I would like to see a campaign like that where it's just a little mini play.

01:36:27.000 A little mini play.

01:36:28.000 Yeah.

01:36:29.000 A crisis situation.

01:36:29.000 Yeah.

01:36:30.000 Yes.

01:36:31.000 A little Cuban missile crisis right in front of everybody's eyes.

01:36:34.000 And just to see how everyone would handle it.

01:36:36.000 Yeah.

01:36:36.000 That's well, that's why when people pretend to be a president in a film, people go, you know what?

01:36:42.000 He would be a great president.

01:36:43.000 Like, people do that all the time.

01:36:44.000 That's true.

01:36:45.000 That's how Zelensky became the president of Ukraine.

01:36:48.000 Because he was a good actor.

01:36:50.000 He was an actor as a president in a TV show.

01:36:53.000 And that's why everybody liked him.

01:36:55.000 Did you know that?

01:36:56.000 I knew that he was an actor, but I didn't know he was an I didn't know he was playing the president.

01:37:01.000 He was playing the president.

01:37:02.000 He was a comedian.

01:37:03.000 And he was playing the president in a television show.

01:37:06.000 And people loved it.

01:37:07.000 And they're like, he should be the real president.

01:37:09.000 Like, that's how goofy people are.

01:37:10.000 Yeah, that could definitely happen in this country, don't you think?

01:37:14.000 All the people that have played the president, people will be like, yeah, that guy could definitely do it.

01:37:14.000 100%.

01:37:20.000 Martin Sheen?

01:37:21.000 Martin Sheen.

01:37:22.000 People would say, yeah.

01:37:22.000 100%.

01:37:23.000 He could probably be the president right now if he wanted to.

01:37:26.000 Yeah.

01:37:26.000 I mean, if someone like that, like a top-notch actor, really wanted a campaign, everybody would be fucked.

01:37:33.000 Except for they just tear him apart and attack him and make up a bunch of stuff about him and his family and blah, blah, blah.

01:37:39.000 And actors are, they have thinner skin than politicians.

01:37:44.000 Some of them do, yeah.

01:37:45.000 Yeah.

01:37:46.000 Most of them.

01:37:47.000 Most of them.

01:37:49.000 As an actor, you're putting yourself out there all the time and you feel insecure.

01:37:52.000 People are, one person doesn't like you or says that you're horrible, then it's like, oh my God.

01:37:58.000 But politicians are like, what else you got?

01:38:00.000 That's it.

01:38:02.000 Well, they're just used to being full shit.

01:38:03.000 They live in it.

01:38:06.000 Well, they're comfortable in it.

01:38:07.000 I think that there are some politicians that are true, that are authentic and truly working to make the country better.

01:38:19.000 That is one thing that I've seen.

01:38:21.000 I think there are people on death row that are innocent.

01:38:27.000 They're just so few and far between.

01:38:29.000 I just don't think it's most.

01:38:31.000 I think the reality.

01:38:33.000 But what do you think?

01:38:34.000 Why do you think most, why would most people do it that aren't interested in truly making the country better or bettering the government?

01:38:46.000 Well, it all depends upon What is what's your motivation?

01:38:52.000 Like, what are you, what are you doing it for?

01:38:54.000 And I think most of them are doing it for the same reason why people become famous.

01:38:59.000 They're doing it because they want to be special and they want to say the things that people want to hear so that people like them and then they can make money.

01:39:07.000 I think that's why they do it.

01:39:08.000 And then once you get in, here's the thing that seems to be pretty apparent: once you get in, for the most part, you have to adhere to the mindset of all the other people that are in your business.

01:39:21.000 And if you don't, you get cast, like John Fetterman, like you get cast out.

01:39:25.000 They hate that guy now.

01:39:26.000 They're mad at him because he says, I think you should probably have ID to vote.

01:39:29.000 I like John Fetterman.

01:39:31.000 He's great.

01:39:31.000 Yeah.

01:39:32.000 And he says he's authentic.

01:39:34.000 He says, well, that guy genuinely worked in charities for his whole life.

01:39:40.000 Like he genuinely worked in doing philanthropy work and like real stuff.

01:39:46.000 Like he's not a greedy guy.

01:39:48.000 He walks around in a Carhartt hoodie and shorts.

01:39:50.000 He went to the fucking inauguration in shorts and a Carhartt hoodie.

01:39:54.000 And I talked to him when he was there.

01:39:56.000 He's like genuinely sweet, like in real life.

01:39:58.000 Yeah.

01:39:59.000 He's a nice guy.

01:40:00.000 He is who he is.

01:40:01.000 Big teddy bear.

01:40:02.000 Like a nice guy.

01:40:03.000 Yeah.

01:40:03.000 And unfortunately, he had that stroke and so it messes with his ability to recall things.

01:40:08.000 So when you talk to him like on a show, he'll have like a little iPad that translates stuff.

01:40:14.000 Yeah.

01:40:15.000 Just so he can recall the question and do it again.

01:40:18.000 But you know, he's a smart guy.

01:40:19.000 Yeah.

01:40:20.000 He just has a weird problem.

01:40:22.000 Yeah.

01:40:23.000 But the thing is, like, you have to adhere.

01:40:26.000 And if you don't, you're not allowed to have a deviating opinion.

01:40:29.000 If you do, you get cast out.

01:40:31.000 You know, like Thomas Massey.

01:40:32.000 You see the same thing in the Republicans.

01:40:34.000 Like anybody that has an opinion that doesn't deviate with the group think, you get cast out.

01:40:39.000 They'll call you a traitor.

01:40:40.000 They'll say terrible things about you.

01:40:42.000 There's a lot of theatrics.

01:40:43.000 There's a lot of that.

01:40:44.000 And I think there's a lot of people that are in that business that start off with really good intentions.

01:40:50.000 Yeah.

01:40:51.000 And then you see them slowly give in.

01:40:54.000 They slowly succumb to the weight of what that position is.

01:40:58.000 But you know, it's not like they're making a lot of money.

01:41:05.000 Oh, congress people?

01:41:06.000 Anything they are?

01:41:07.000 Oh, yeah.

01:41:09.000 The way they make money is insider trading, Cheryl.

01:41:11.000 Oh, God, I'm so.

01:41:13.000 Oh, it's so ubiquitous.

01:41:14.000 That's the dark, dark secret.

01:41:16.000 It's not even a secret.

01:41:17.000 Is that why they never leave?

01:41:18.000 Well, that's why Nancy Pelosi is a thousand years old.

01:41:21.000 She's worth $400 million and she makes $170,000 a year.

01:41:26.000 Make sense out of that.

01:41:27.000 Yeah, it is a little make sense out of that.

01:41:29.000 First of all, if you had $400 million in the bank, would you keep showing up for work if you're 85 years old and you're in a job that pays $170,000 a year?

01:41:38.000 I'd look at that paycheck every year.

01:41:40.000 Every week I'd be like, I'm good.

01:41:42.000 I'm going to get out of here.

01:41:43.000 This is just a little bit more.

01:41:43.000 I'm going to relax on an island somewhere.

01:41:46.000 I'm going fishing.

01:41:48.000 I'm going to go to Mexico and go fishing.

01:41:49.000 This is nuts.

01:41:50.000 I'd be enjoying this money.

01:41:52.000 Why would you still be working?

01:41:54.000 Because her net worth keeps going up and up and up.

01:41:56.000 You've seen PelosiTracker.com.

01:41:59.000 Yeah, my boys talk about it.

01:42:01.000 Yeah.

01:42:02.000 It's crazy.

01:42:03.000 She's better at the stock market than Warren Buffett.

01:42:06.000 She's better at the stock market than George Soros.

01:42:09.000 But is it possible that she thinks she is moving the needle in politics in the right way?

01:42:21.000 It's possible.

01:42:22.000 It's possible that she convinces herself of that.

01:42:22.000 Sure.

01:42:25.000 It's also possible that staying in office is the best way to ensure you're not prosecuted.

01:42:32.000 Whoa.

01:42:32.000 Yeah, because if somebody goes after you, if that's not legal, and if you really did have insider information and you bought a bunch of stock on something that you knew that I think there's a real good case that that shouldn't be legal.

01:42:44.000 It seems like it is legal now, but if you're involved.

01:42:47.000 Oh, no, is it legal?

01:42:48.000 Not at all.

01:42:49.000 I think it's a very gray area because the congresspeople are allowed to trade and buy stocks, and they most certainly have bought stocks when they knew that a certain market is going to be affected by a decision that only they knew was going to be made.

01:43:02.000 Yeah.

01:43:03.000 Yeah.

01:43:03.000 There's a lot of evidence for that.

01:43:05.000 Like, that's how you make that much money.

01:43:07.000 There's a lot of them.

01:43:08.000 And it's not a Republican or a Democrat issue.

01:43:11.000 It's red, blue, graphic.

01:43:13.000 They're all making crazy loot.

01:43:14.000 Not all of them.

01:43:15.000 Like, Tulsi Gabbard didn't do it.

01:43:16.000 There's a bunch of people that didn't do it.

01:43:18.000 Yeah.

01:43:18.000 But there's a lot of them that wind up making a ton of loot and they get super defensive about it.

01:43:24.000 Well, nobody wants, nobody wants to say, yeah.

01:43:30.000 I did it.

01:43:30.000 Well, tell me how you became worth $400 million without providing any product.

01:43:38.000 If you invented some new mouse that's like better than any other computer mouse, I see why you made that money.

01:43:45.000 Congratulations.

01:43:46.000 But what'd you do?

01:43:46.000 Yeah.

01:43:48.000 Most people make $170,000 a year, are kind of doing well.

01:43:48.000 Would you do?

01:43:52.000 They're doing well.

01:43:54.000 Probably have a nice car.

01:43:55.000 Probably live in a nice house.

01:43:56.000 You're not worth $400 million.

01:43:56.000 Yeah.

01:43:57.000 No.

01:43:58.000 That would be the rarest of rare people.

01:44:00.000 Imagine if you were making $170,000 and you were working side by side with Bob, and all of a sudden Bob's buying a fucking Ferrari.

01:44:07.000 He's got his own private jet.

01:44:08.000 He's like showing up with his driver.

01:44:10.000 Bob, what are you doing?

01:44:11.000 But, and, or, I don't, and I don't know the answer to this, but I probably should.

01:44:18.000 Aren't there finances exposed every year or no?

01:44:22.000 Well, is that just when you run for president?

01:44:24.000 I don't know.

01:44:25.000 I mean, certainly when you run for president, then they want to see your, they want to audit you or they want to see your tax forms.

01:44:31.000 Yeah.

01:44:32.000 It's cute.

01:44:33.000 It's a fun.

01:44:34.000 But when you look at like the net worth, and it's very difficult to find out what someone's net worth is.

01:44:39.000 But if you look at the net worth of congresspeople, a lot of them are millionaires.

01:44:43.000 But were they millionaires before they went in?

01:44:46.000 A lot of them weren't.

01:44:47.000 Well, Ilan Omar was, she was in debt before she went in.

01:44:50.000 Yeah, but this is the question, right?

01:44:51.000 Yeah, now she's worth millions.

01:44:53.000 Kind of odd.

01:44:55.000 She's good.

01:44:56.000 She's really good at her job.

01:44:57.000 Got lucky?

01:44:57.000 She's really good at her job.

01:44:59.000 She's really good at her job.

01:45:01.000 I mean, I am seeing, you know, through the lens with which I'm looking.

01:45:09.000 I've seen a lot of people come into the administration that have already had a lot of money.

01:45:15.000 You know, so in that case, it feels like they're coming in for the right reason.

01:45:20.000 Right.

01:45:20.000 But when they got in, how much more money did they make once they got in?

01:45:23.000 That's when things get weird.

01:45:25.000 Did you start your own crypto coin and do a pump and dump?

01:45:28.000 Because, you know, that's odd.

01:45:30.000 It's odd that that's legal.

01:45:30.000 Yeah.

01:45:32.000 Isn't it strong?

01:45:34.000 And I don't have the answer to this either.

01:45:36.000 You probably would more than anybody.

01:45:38.000 But is there a group out there, a watchdog group that's looking at all of this?

01:45:43.000 That's like, here's another thing I just discovered about this stock that such and such voted for.

01:45:48.000 There's a lot of people online that do that.

01:45:50.000 There's a lot of independent journalists that do that.

01:45:52.000 But the thing is, it never gets covered in mainstream news.

01:45:56.000 When was the last time you saw mainstream news doing a deep dive on congresspeople's income?

01:45:56.000 Right.

01:46:02.000 Never.

01:46:02.000 Yeah.

01:46:03.000 Doesn't seem like because they want to get access to those congresspeople.

01:46:06.000 They want them to come on their shows.

01:46:06.000 Yeah.

01:46:09.000 You know, it's a weird business.

01:46:12.000 It's a weird business because most certainly when people get into office, they profit immensely.

01:46:18.000 You don't just, so if you're like, let's just pretend you're the president.

01:46:21.000 If you become the president, I think the president gets paid, what do they get paid?

01:46:25.000 Like $450,000 a year or something like that?

01:46:29.000 How much does the president get?

01:46:30.000 By the way, Trump doesn't take that money.

01:46:32.000 He doesn't take a dime of it.

01:46:34.000 $400,000.

01:46:35.000 $400,000.

01:46:36.000 But he does that with crypto coin.

01:46:39.000 But the point is, it's like, so you make that money and then you're in office for four years and you go, okay, well, are you going to live like Jimmy Carter?

01:46:47.000 Because Jimmy Carter lived a simple life until he died.

01:46:50.000 He never profited off of the fact that he was a president.

01:46:53.000 Or are you going to be one of those people that gives speeches to banks and you inexplicably make like 300 grand to just talk for an hour, which is bizarre?

01:47:02.000 That seems like a way they can pay you legally.

01:47:08.000 If I was being cynical, that seems like you did something when you're in office and they made it kind of dangerous.

01:47:16.000 They were happy.

01:47:17.000 You're going to go on your boring ass speaking tour and break it in.

01:47:22.000 And, you know, getting sitting on boards.

01:47:25.000 Right.

01:47:26.000 It makes me think of the opioid situation with what's their names?

01:47:31.000 The Sackler.

01:47:32.000 Yeah.

01:47:32.000 Yes.

01:47:33.000 Yeah.

01:47:33.000 There's a lot of that.

01:47:34.000 The guy from the FDA that approved it and then left.

01:47:40.000 They found him.

01:47:41.000 Yeah.

01:47:41.000 Really?

01:47:42.000 When that documentary Painkiller came out on Netflix, which is just so good.

01:47:46.000 Peter Berg did that.

01:47:47.000 It's so good.

01:47:49.000 Not documentary, document drama.

01:47:52.000 Matthew Broderick plays the Sackler.

01:47:54.000 It was really good.

01:47:54.000 Really good.

01:47:56.000 The guy who approved it, apparently he was saying no forever.

01:47:59.000 And then they took him to a hotel for like three days.

01:48:03.000 And then he's took the FDA guy.

01:48:07.000 I mean, what did they do in that hotel?

01:48:09.000 I would like to be a fly on the door.

01:48:10.000 They closed the doors.

01:48:11.000 Yeah.

01:48:12.000 I don't know what happened.

01:48:13.000 Suddenly.

01:48:14.000 And then he got a nice job afterwards where he got paid really well.

01:48:17.000 That's a gross thing that they do.

01:48:20.000 Where there's this revolving door between the FDA and all these other departments and then these other corporations.

01:48:25.000 So you leave and then you get this amazing job working for the very corporation that you were regulating.

01:48:31.000 Yeah.

01:48:31.000 Like if you were doing a good job, wouldn't they want to have nothing to do with you?

01:48:34.000 Like this asshole kept us from making billions of dollars.

01:48:34.000 Yeah.

01:48:37.000 Yeah.

01:48:37.000 We're going to hire him and give them $2 million in a consulting job.

01:48:42.000 Consulting?

01:48:43.000 Yeah.

01:48:45.000 It's kind of a way to pay people off.

01:48:47.000 Seems like it.

01:48:49.000 Someone like me.

01:48:50.000 On the outside.

01:48:51.000 I'm just looking at it logically.

01:48:52.000 So looking at it from my point of view.

01:48:54.000 Yeah, of course.

01:48:55.000 Yeah, it seems like it.

01:48:56.000 That's why.

01:48:57.000 And it's legal somehow or another.

01:48:59.000 That's a weird loophole that should be closed up.

01:49:03.000 You should not be able to regulate an industry and then leave immediately and go work for said industry and make a shit ton of money.

01:49:11.000 Well, right.

01:49:13.000 Maybe you guys doing something.

01:49:16.000 Maybe somebody talked.

01:49:17.000 That's why a lot of people don't like Bobby.

01:49:19.000 Bobby's like fucking around with this.

01:49:23.000 Yeah.

01:49:23.000 The Sackler family one is nuts because it doesn't seem like they're in trouble.

01:49:28.000 It doesn't seem like there was a deal, a sweetheart deal, where they were going to give a certain amount of money, a small percentage of the amount that they profited.

01:49:36.000 And then that would also make them immune to prosecution.

01:49:39.000 But then a judge pulled that deal right after the documentary came out or the docuseries came out.

01:49:44.000 But then you never heard another thing about it.

01:49:46.000 So let's put this on ice for a little bit and just everybody shut the fuck up.

01:49:50.000 Everybody shut the fuck up and then it never made it in the news anymore.

01:49:53.000 And it just kind of drifted away.

01:49:55.000 But that family is responsible for the death of who knows how many people.

01:50:00.000 Yeah.

01:50:00.000 Ruined who knows how many lives.

01:50:02.000 Yeah.

01:50:03.000 Destroyed families, destroyed children.

01:50:05.000 I mean, think about if your dad's hooked on opiates and you become homeless and you're a child, what kind of fuck up, fucking crazy path does your life take where it would have never taken that path if your doctor didn't sell your dad something that completely addicts him to it and prisons him right, imprisons him in a life of just fucking horrible addiction.

01:50:26.000 Well, that's why you know, when people talk about conspiracy theories right, it's a conspiracy theory until it's proven true.

01:50:36.000 So if that can happen, if people can tell doctors this is not addictive and doctors believe it and doctors push it.

01:50:47.000 And then you find out later, oh, yeah, they knew.

01:50:52.000 We have documents that prove that they knew that it was addictive.

01:50:56.000 They knew how destructive it was, but they did it anyway.

01:50:59.000 It's like people can believe that, but then they have a hard time believing it about other things.

01:51:06.000 They can't imagine.

01:51:08.000 Well, they don't want to seem foolish.

01:51:10.000 And this is the thing about conspiracy theories.

01:51:13.000 They've done a really good job of making it seem like you're a fool if you believe in conspiracy theories.

01:51:19.000 And this is, they did a really good job of that during the Kennedy assassination.

01:51:22.000 That's when the term conspiracy theorist really became popular.

01:51:26.000 Yeah.

01:51:27.000 It wasn't really a thing that people talked about all the time before the Kennedy assassination.

01:51:31.000 And then after that, that became this term that they would use for kooks.

01:51:36.000 Your label.

01:51:36.000 Yeah.

01:51:37.000 Conspiracy theory.

01:51:38.000 Yeah.

01:51:38.000 Hilarious.

01:51:39.000 Like they use that for me all the time.

01:51:40.000 I was about to say.

01:51:41.000 Yeah.

01:51:41.000 Are you like the king of?

01:51:43.000 I am a conspiracy theorist.

01:51:44.000 Yes.

01:51:45.000 Because, by the way, what is a conspiracy?

01:51:47.000 It's two or more people working together to do something nefarious.

01:51:52.000 It's always happened.

01:51:53.000 It's been going on forever.

01:51:54.000 There's a ton of them that I could just rattle off the top of my head.

01:51:57.000 And I've had a few conversations with people on the podcast where they're like, I think most conspiracies can be attributed to ineptitude and this.

01:52:04.000 I'm like, no, no, not most.

01:52:06.000 A few, some.

01:52:08.000 But when there's profit involved, when there's profit involved, when there's power involved, when there's control resources involved, most conspiracies, in fact, turn out to be true.

01:52:20.000 The more you dig deep, the more you realize, like, oh, there's a concerted effort to make these conspiracies seem ridiculous because you don't want to be taken as a fool.

01:52:28.000 Right.

01:52:29.000 I am a fool.

01:52:32.000 So if you take a fool, congratulations.

01:52:36.000 You're accurate.

01:52:37.000 I'm a foolish person.

01:52:39.000 I'm a professional clown.

01:52:40.000 But why do you say that?

01:52:41.000 Because I'm the easiest person to mock of all time.

01:52:46.000 I am a conspiracy theorist who is a cage-fighting commentator.

01:52:52.000 Like half of the time, half of the time when I'm working, people are getting kicked in the face.

01:52:58.000 Like that's, you know, it's like, that's like brutal.

01:53:01.000 Normal.

01:53:02.000 I mean, but like people look at that as like, that's normal for you.

01:53:05.000 Like that's like brutish, barbaric, like stupid meathead behavior.

01:53:10.000 Like, right, okay.

01:53:11.000 That's okay.

01:53:12.000 I don't care.

01:53:12.000 Yeah.

01:53:13.000 Okay.

01:53:13.000 Also, I think they faked the Gulf of Tonkin incident to get us into Vietnam.

01:53:17.000 Also, production of heroin ramped up to 94% of the world once we occupied Afghanistan.

01:53:25.000 Like, what?

01:53:26.000 Like, how much of that's real?

01:53:27.000 All of it.

01:53:28.000 Plus, the United States, the CIA rather, sold heroin or sold cocaine in LA ghettos to pay for the Contras versus the Sandinistas in Nicaragua.

01:53:39.000 That's all true, too.

01:53:40.000 That's real.

01:53:41.000 Like, there's conspiracy theories you can get into that are fucking real.

01:53:45.000 And you don't mind people.

01:53:47.000 You don't care what people say about you.

01:53:50.000 Well, I mean, if they say, no, he's foolish.

01:53:53.000 I am foolish.

01:53:54.000 I'm a foolish person.

01:53:55.000 Well, I think that gives you superpower to just say, I don't care what you think about me.

01:54:02.000 Yes, it's like doing improv, right?

01:54:05.000 Well, nobody wants people to think badly of them.

01:54:07.000 Right.

01:54:08.000 I don't want people to feel bad.

01:54:09.000 But badly of me.

01:54:10.000 Does it affect your day-to-day?

01:54:14.000 I don't pay attention.

01:54:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:54:15.000 I don't pay attention to it.

01:54:16.000 It's not good for you to pay attention to it.

01:54:18.000 No.

01:54:18.000 Like, if you see yourself trending on.

01:54:21.000 I don't see myself trending.

01:54:22.000 You don't ever check it.

01:54:23.000 Nope.

01:54:24.000 Never.

01:54:25.000 That is so smart.

01:54:26.000 It's not good for you.

01:54:27.000 You don't have to change it.

01:54:28.000 You don't even have to change it.

01:54:29.000 Yeah.

01:54:30.000 You just got to keep moving.

01:54:31.000 And with kids, it's hard to say.

01:54:33.000 It's hard to tell kids don't p pay attention to they're gonna pay attention, you know, but they become more resilient from paying attention.

01:54:41.000 And I hope your kids know who you are.

01:54:43.000 I would hope that they get you.

01:54:44.000 Yeah.

01:54:45.000 You know, and I think my kids get me.

01:54:46.000 And I think my family gets me.

01:54:49.000 Look, I am who I am.

01:54:50.000 I'm a fool, but I'm an honest fool.

01:54:53.000 I'll tell you what I believe.

01:54:56.000 And it might not make any sense to you, and you can mock me all day long.

01:54:59.000 That's what's so funny.

01:55:01.000 I think there's some things that I'm foolish with, but it's okay.

01:55:05.000 It doesn't bother me.

01:55:06.000 I'm nice.

01:55:07.000 I'm a kind person.

01:55:08.000 I try to be.

01:55:09.000 I work hard at it.

01:55:10.000 Well, you're smart and you're curious and you're kind to people.

01:55:14.000 I think it's important to do.

01:55:15.000 I think it's to live a good life.

01:55:17.000 You should have a good community of people that you love and you care for, and you should be as nice to them as you can and have some fun in this life.

01:55:26.000 But also, you can't be scared of people who don't know you thinking that you're an idiot if you're saying something you truly believe in.

01:55:34.000 Yeah.

01:55:35.000 So I don't mind talking about like the moon landing hoax or fucking UFOs or I don't care.

01:55:42.000 All the things that people are like, oh, that makes you look like a kook.

01:55:44.000 Like, good.

01:55:46.000 Who cares?

01:55:47.000 Then don't listen.

01:55:48.000 Who cares?

01:55:50.000 Right.

01:55:50.000 You don't have to listen.

01:55:51.000 But also, like, I don't have to audition for something.

01:55:53.000 Like, if I did, then maybe I would change.

01:55:53.000 Right.

01:55:55.000 Like, I know a lot of comedians that kind of changed their act once they started getting on TV.

01:56:00.000 Yeah.

01:56:00.000 Because they kind of take the edge off their act.

01:56:02.000 They don't want to be as controversial.

01:56:04.000 They're worried about a bit maybe getting clipped and going viral or especially like only part of the bit where like it's out of context, doesn't show the whole bit where, you know, yes.

01:56:15.000 Even words.

01:56:16.000 I mean, that goes back to, you know, the campaign.

01:56:22.000 It's like if any words that come out of your mouth, they can, like you said, clip.

01:56:29.000 And it's just gone.

01:56:30.000 And then it's now you're, do you talk about, oh, I, you didn't play the whole thing.

01:56:35.000 You didn't say this exact exactly.

01:56:37.000 It doesn't matter.

01:56:38.000 It doesn't matter.

01:56:38.000 The words came out of your mouth.

01:56:39.000 It doesn't matter.

01:56:41.000 Well, look at Trump's lawsuit with the BBC.

01:56:43.000 They completely clipped his speech and took 50 minutes of it out and put another thing at the end of it to make it look like he was trying to get people to go and attack the Capitol.

01:56:54.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

01:56:56.000 It's crazy.

01:56:56.000 And, you know, he's suing them now.

01:56:58.000 And then the head of the BBC ought to resign.

01:57:00.000 But it's like that is normal.

01:57:02.000 That kind of behavior is normal.

01:57:04.000 Yeah.

01:57:05.000 But what is this election going to look like with AI?

01:57:09.000 And it's just going to be so crazy.

01:57:12.000 I mean, the last one was crazy.

01:57:13.000 This one's going to be so I can't even imagine what it's going to look like.

01:57:19.000 Well, it's also Trump has kind of changed the way people interact in debates and in politics.

01:57:26.000 And there's people that are trying to emulate his success, right?

01:57:30.000 Which happens in like all art forms.

01:57:34.000 And I think running for president and being an entertainer are kind of connected in the fact that you could almost say that like campaigning is kind of a performance art.

01:57:43.000 Absolutely.

01:57:44.000 I mean, think of like Kamala Harris.

01:57:46.000 She had that one great speech that she did when they announced that she was going to run for president, which she said, if you're going to say something, say it to my face.

01:57:55.000 And everybody went, oh shit, it's on.

01:57:58.000 And then she ramped up in the charts.

01:58:00.000 And what was that?

01:58:01.000 Well, that was a great performance.

01:58:04.000 That was a piece of art.

01:58:06.000 If you're going to be an artist, that's what that is.

01:58:08.000 So it's like, this is what these people are doing.

01:58:10.000 And he's changed the art form in a lot of ways.

01:58:13.000 Like, he is like, you know, like when Elvis Presley came out and started shaking his hips and everybody's like, what the fuck is going on?

01:58:20.000 Are we allowed to do that?

01:58:21.000 I'm going to do that.

01:58:22.000 Right.

01:58:22.000 When Jimi Hendrix lit his guitar on fire, everybody's like, what the fuck?

01:58:25.000 We can do that?

01:58:26.000 You know, it's like someone sometimes comes along that changes the way people do the thing.

01:58:26.000 Yeah.

01:58:30.000 Yeah.

01:58:31.000 He has unfortunately turned everyone into an insult artist.

01:58:35.000 Whereas you go to the Obama Mitt Romney thing, and if you can find the actual one, not one where people are commenting on it, it's actually interesting.

01:58:43.000 There's another one that's the really good one, I think the best one is Clinton when he was running for president.

01:58:49.000 When Clinton was running for president, he was so good.

01:58:52.000 He was so measured.

01:58:54.000 And so, oh, not only that, if you listen to what he's saying back then, what's really crazy is a lot of it are right-wing talking points of today.

01:59:02.000 You know, when they talk about immigration, when they talk, it's right-wing talking points of today.

01:59:08.000 Yeah.

01:59:08.000 It's looking out for the American middle class.

01:59:11.000 No, even Hillary, the things that are going around, the things that she said that now people are furious about.

01:59:18.000 When she was running for president in 2008, we've played this clip a bunch of times where she's saying, if you're in this country illegally, yeah, first of all, you should have to pay a stiff fine.

01:59:18.000 I know.

01:59:29.000 And if you've been arrested for any crime, you get kicked out of the country, no questions asked, and everybody's cheering.

01:59:35.000 And you should learn to speak English.

01:59:37.000 And everybody went nuts.

01:59:38.000 Yeah.

01:59:38.000 Like, that's so MAGA.

01:59:40.000 It's so MAGA.

01:59:42.000 It's more MAGA than like JD Vance.

01:59:44.000 Yeah.

01:59:45.000 It really is.

01:59:46.000 It's crazy.

01:59:47.000 It is pretty.

01:59:48.000 It is crazy.

01:59:49.000 It's crazy.

01:59:50.000 But also, like, no self-awareness, some of the Democrats that are watching what's happening.

02:00:01.000 And also, there's anybody capable.

02:00:05.000 There's no other than Gavin Newsom, right?

02:00:07.000 Who is like the ultimate slick politician guy.

02:00:11.000 And regardless of how the state goes in California, regardless of how the city of San Francisco goes, he keeps winning because he's really good at like being slick and like saying and being pretending he's reasonable.

02:00:24.000 Well, he's an articulate.

02:00:25.000 He's a fucking politician, and he's a good-looking guy, and he's tall, and he's got nice hair.

02:00:29.000 And people are dumb.

02:00:31.000 He could be the president.

02:00:32.000 He's my president.

02:00:34.000 He could definitely play the president on TV.

02:00:36.000 100%.

02:00:37.000 So, like, that's all you have to do.

02:00:37.000 Right?

02:00:40.000 Like, you have to just be it the way we like a president to say it.

02:00:45.000 Yeah.

02:00:46.000 And it's crazy because they're the only people today that are allowed to talk like that and say things that we know aren't true in a way that is a way that a person talks when they're running for president that they never talk like in real life.

02:01:00.000 It's true.

02:01:01.000 Like if someone's over your house, they start talking like that.

02:01:03.000 You're like, Steve is fucking crazy.

02:01:05.000 We got to get him out of the house.

02:01:06.000 He's very presentational.

02:01:09.000 It's so funny.

02:01:10.000 You're right.

02:01:10.000 There's a lot of the shouting and yelling.

02:01:13.000 It's weird.

02:01:14.000 And now it's become insulting.

02:01:14.000 It is weird.

02:01:16.000 And now it's a lot of insulting.

02:01:17.000 And Newsom has tried to ape Trump's behavior patterns.

02:01:22.000 I hope the pendulum swings back to a lot of people.

02:01:24.000 You need a really good kid from the left.

02:01:26.000 I don't know who that's going to be.

02:01:28.000 I don't see anybody.

02:01:29.000 That James Tallarico guy is kind of interesting.

02:01:31.000 He's pretty interesting.

02:01:32.000 I've had him on the podcast before.

02:01:34.000 He's a very religious guy and very opposed to them putting the Ten Commandments in schools, public schools in Texas.

02:01:41.000 And his take on it is very measured as a religious person, very religious person.

02:01:45.000 He's in seminary right now.

02:01:46.000 And he essentially said that you're pushing people away from Christianity by doing this.

02:01:51.000 And then it's not fair that if you are not a Christian and you go to the school, you have to read the Christian rules.

02:01:58.000 And what about the Buddhist rules?

02:02:00.000 What about the Muslim rules?

02:02:01.000 What about right?

02:02:04.000 And he can talk about it in a small way.

02:02:06.000 And he's also a very religious person.

02:02:08.000 I'm not very familiar with him at all.

02:02:10.000 He was a school teacher.

02:02:11.000 And he was realizing that cuts to the budgets were directly affecting vulnerable students in his class.

02:02:21.000 And he pointed to this one kid that he had that was doing really well because he was getting counseling and came from a troubled background, but he was really showing progress.

02:02:30.000 And then they cut off the funding.

02:02:31.000 He lost his counseling, started falling apart, dropped out of school.

02:02:34.000 And he was like, that is a direct result of this lack of funding for important things that he thinks directly affect people that are vulnerable.

02:02:43.000 And he was coming at it from a very honest and a very moral and ethical place.

02:02:48.000 And when you could talk to him, you could realize that I think he's a good man.

02:02:51.000 And he has a real good chance of being like a.

02:02:55.000 Is he from Texas?

02:02:56.000 Yes.

02:02:56.000 Yeah.

02:02:57.000 He also pointed to the fact that he's kind of young, right?

02:02:59.000 Very young.

02:02:59.000 Yeah.

02:02:59.000 Yes.

02:03:00.000 I think he's like 35 or 36 or something like that.

02:03:02.000 But it's also, he pointed out that there's a group of very wealthy oil people in this country, or in this state rather, that want to turn Texas into a they want to fund all the religious schools and cut the funding for the public schools.

02:03:18.000 They want to turn it into a theocracy.

02:03:21.000 You know, they essentially want to turn it into like this, they're Christian, what you would call a Christian nationalist, and they really want to push that agenda.

02:03:28.000 And they're doing it with an enormous amount of money.

02:03:30.000 They have an incredible amount of money, and they're these evangelical Christians, and they have these very rigid ideas about what people should be able to do in this country.

02:03:39.000 Sketchy.

02:03:40.000 Yeah, that's sketchy.

02:03:41.000 Very sketchy.

02:03:42.000 And it also goes back to money.

02:03:44.000 So even hearing that, like to run for president takes so much money.

02:03:50.000 A lot of money.

02:03:50.000 Yeah.

02:03:51.000 But if people think you could win, they might get on board.

02:03:54.000 That's where things get interesting.

02:03:54.000 Yeah.

02:03:55.000 Like if you think someone can win, like how much are you willing to ignore just because this guy will get in?

02:04:00.000 And then once he gets in, that's the dirty part.

02:04:03.000 Once they get in, very rarely do they do what they said they were going to do.

02:04:06.000 Yeah.

02:04:06.000 Very rarely.

02:04:08.000 Yeah.

02:04:09.000 Well, and do you think it's because it's so hard to make change, or you think once they get in, they're like, I don't care.

02:04:09.000 Very rarely.

02:04:15.000 I'm just going to do that.

02:04:16.000 Well, I think if you want to be really cynical, I think they say a lot of things that they don't mean in order to get elected.

02:04:22.000 They say the things that the people want to hear in order to get elected.

02:04:22.000 Yeah.

02:04:25.000 And then I think once they get elected, then it's like the Bill Hicks bit.

02:04:28.000 There's a Bill Hicks bit where he's like, I think they take you into a dark, smoky room and they show you an angle of the Kennedy assassination that you've never seen before.

02:04:37.000 And then they say, any questions?

02:04:38.000 And you're like, yeah, I just want to know what my agenda is.

02:04:41.000 Yeah.

02:04:42.000 You know, I think there's a little bit of that too.

02:04:44.000 Well, you're right.

02:04:46.000 I mean, not about that specifically, but definitely when you get in, you see things that are just like, well, this is bigger.

02:04:58.000 Yeah.

02:04:59.000 Bigger has been happening for a long time, and you're just a little tiny piece that's not going to change that.

02:05:08.000 The deep state is real.

02:05:10.000 And if you want a conspiracy theory that a lot of people like to dismiss, just think about it logically.

02:05:16.000 If there are a bunch of people that are in charge of enormous organizations and these enormous organizations exist regardless of who the president is, and they are in office for 10, 20, 30, 40 years, whatever it is, acquiring power, using their influence, enormous amount of support from enormous corporations, that's real.

02:05:37.000 That's always been real.

02:05:38.000 And you have to contend with that if you want to enact meaningful change as a politician in this country.

02:05:44.000 And good luck.

02:05:45.000 Yeah.

02:05:46.000 Good luck fighting that battle.

02:05:48.000 Yeah.

02:05:49.000 And when you do get in as president, there are so many jobs that you have to fill like thousands in days, weeks, months, thousands and thousands.

02:06:04.000 So you have all of these thousands of new employees that are ready to work.

02:06:13.000 They have to be organized.

02:06:15.000 And now they're organizing with the people, like you said, that are politicals that have been there or they're career people that have been there through it all, through different and they're going to be there when you're gone.

02:06:28.000 And they're going to be there when you're gone.

02:06:29.000 So they'll hit the brakes every time they can.

02:06:32.000 They'll fucking wrench into the gears, slow things down, make backdoor deals.

02:06:38.000 Yeah.

02:06:39.000 It's just like crazy.

02:06:40.000 I've talked to Tulsi about it, and she's like, it's so nuts.

02:06:43.000 There's people that are in charge of these certain offices and they just stop you from doing what you want to do.

02:06:49.000 Yeah.

02:06:50.000 And then you have to try to figure out how to get around and try to figure out how to get, and then you have to wash their backs or they wash yours.

02:06:57.000 Yeah.

02:06:58.000 It's a lot.

02:06:59.000 It's just a lot of every day trying to friggin.

02:07:03.000 And I'm sure it gets frustrating.

02:07:05.000 And I'm sure there are days when you're like, well, I know I told the people I was going to do that one thing.

02:07:09.000 And I can't have that one thing.

02:07:11.000 I can't even get people to change their mind about what they're going to eat for lunch.

02:07:15.000 That's the real scary thing about AI.

02:07:17.000 AI is going to come along and be logical and say, let us handle this.

02:07:23.000 You guys aren't good at this.

02:07:25.000 I think they're doing that now.

02:07:27.000 Don't you think they're doing that?

02:07:28.000 Corruption, all this corruption.

02:07:29.000 We could put a stop to it immediately.

02:07:31.000 Yeah.

02:07:32.000 We can make things very efficient.

02:07:34.000 By the way, you don't think AI could weed out the people and Congress and wherever that have been that have been making money on interesting.

02:07:46.000 Yeah.

02:07:47.000 I haven't said, right?

02:07:48.000 I don't think they're doing anything illegal currently.

02:07:51.000 I think it's very questionable whether or not it's an ethical thing to do.

02:07:55.000 I don't think it is.

02:07:56.000 But I think as far as the legality of it, it's not like illegal to invest in a company.

02:08:03.000 No, it's not.

02:08:04.000 You ever see Nancy Pelosi when she got asked about that?

02:08:07.000 It's hilarious.

02:08:08.000 It's so funny.

02:08:09.000 Like they caught her off guard.

02:08:10.000 And do you think he's like, I think they should be on participate?

02:08:14.000 And then she pushes the microphone away and gets out of there.

02:08:16.000 You've never seen it?

02:08:17.000 It's really funny.

02:08:18.000 Maybe I have.

02:08:19.000 I don't know.

02:08:19.000 Jenny, pull that up.

02:08:20.000 It's a fun clip.

02:08:22.000 Because look, she's been running it like a G. Respect.

02:08:26.000 Seriously, she's been in for a long time.

02:08:28.000 She's got it down, Pat, man.

02:08:29.000 She's got it.

02:08:30.000 There's a photo of her when she was a young girl standing next to Kennedy.

02:08:33.000 Yeah.

02:08:34.000 I've seen that.

02:08:35.000 She's been in this game for ever.

02:08:38.000 Yeah.

02:08:39.000 And you want to know who she is?

02:08:41.000 Her and Chuck Schumer, when they put on the African garb and they got down on one knee for Black Lives Matter.

02:08:48.000 And it turns out that the colors that they were wearing were from a specific tribe that was responsible for a lot of the slavery.

02:08:57.000 They were the people that were enslaving people and then selling them.

02:09:02.000 No, we told her that.

02:09:03.000 She just wanted to look cool.

02:09:04.000 We told her that.

02:09:05.000 That's a tough one.

02:09:07.000 Yeah.

02:09:08.000 Make sure that's true.

02:09:09.000 I'm pretty sure it is.

02:09:10.000 I'm pretty sure it is.

02:09:12.000 You didn't listen?

02:09:12.000 What?

02:09:13.000 I'm looking for the Nancy Pelosi.

02:09:15.000 Oh, sorry.

02:09:16.000 That Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, when they got down on one knee with their African garb on, the garb that they're wearing is from this one particular tribe that was responsible for a lot of the slave trade.

02:09:30.000 And by the way, that also speaks to how some things are just random done by an assistant somewhere that's like, I need to have something to put on.

02:09:42.000 And then now it looks like they've made a big statement and it's, you know, it's like, oh, no, I didn't know.

02:09:49.000 Well, that's just kooky to do.

02:09:50.000 It's just kooky to do in the first place.

02:09:52.000 I mean, it's like, what do you, why are you doing that?

02:09:54.000 Well, how would I just say I feel very strongly about this particular social issue and we need, you know, less racism and we need to be more equal in this country.

02:10:04.000 No, but it's about the photo up.

02:10:06.000 You're getting on one knee.

02:10:07.000 Well, sometimes accurate.

02:10:09.000 Sometimes that we go to.

02:10:10.000 I'm trying to figure out what they're saying about it.

02:10:12.000 There's a picture.

02:10:13.000 Okay.

02:10:14.000 Yeah.

02:10:15.000 We're just mad that they were wearing stuff to begin with.

02:10:17.000 I don't know.

02:10:18.000 Right.

02:10:18.000 It's called Kenticloth.

02:10:20.000 So was the Kenticloth, Did it have anything to do with the people that were involved in the slave trade?

02:10:29.000 Did they wear it?

02:10:32.000 Because that's what I had read online.

02:10:34.000 But again, who knows how much of that's real?

02:10:36.000 That's the problem.

02:10:37.000 You read things and it could be horseshit.

02:10:40.000 Yeah.

02:10:41.000 Fact check, yes.

02:10:42.000 Hold.

02:10:43.000 Go back.

02:10:44.000 It didn't say anything.

02:10:45.000 It said fact check.

02:10:46.000 Yeah, it didn't say yes.

02:10:47.000 Yes.

02:10:48.000 It says yes, first word.

02:10:50.000 Kenticlots were historically worn by empire involved in West African slave trade.

02:10:55.000 Yeah, so that's true.

02:10:57.000 Well, it's funny because when Bobby and I travel internationally and we might be somewhere where they wear specific clothing garments, right?

02:11:08.000 And it looks cool and it's like we're supposed to go to a event or a function.

02:11:14.000 And I will think, oh, well, why don't we wear what they're wearing?

02:11:20.000 Bobby's like, calm down.

02:11:25.000 Just wear your own clothes.

02:11:28.000 Don't, don't.

02:11:29.000 Just don't.

02:11:30.000 And I'm like, well, are you sure?

02:11:30.000 Just don't.

02:11:31.000 Because everybody's girl, just bring it down.

02:11:34.000 And definitely don't take a picture.

02:11:36.000 Get their stuff on.

02:11:37.000 Oh, no.

02:11:38.000 Theo Vaughn did that.

02:11:39.000 He went to Qatar and took a picture with wearing their outfits.

02:11:42.000 Uh-oh.

02:11:43.000 And everybody's like, you're bought and paid for.

02:11:46.000 Settle down.

02:11:48.000 You got the Nancy Pelissi video?

02:11:49.000 No, no, I was.

02:11:51.000 Man, there's multiple versions of it, and that's most of the things I'm finding are people commenting on it again.

02:11:57.000 Oh.

02:11:58.000 Because that's where it exists.

02:11:59.000 I'm sure you'll find it.

02:12:00.000 It's out there.

02:12:01.000 This is fun.

02:12:02.000 I'm sure there are a few.

02:12:04.000 No, I mean, this was not it.

02:12:05.000 It's not it.

02:12:06.000 No, this is Yahoo Finance talking about it, and it shows 10 seconds of it, but it doesn't show her walking away like you wanted to.

02:12:11.000 Yeah.

02:12:12.000 Trying to find what you wanted to see.

02:12:13.000 Let me hear.

02:12:16.000 Back it up a little.

02:12:17.000 She's tough.

02:12:18.000 Back it up a little so you can hear the question.

02:12:20.000 Government should be trading.

02:12:21.000 Take a listen.

02:12:22.000 Insider just completed a five-month investigation.

02:12:25.000 I think that's 49 members of Congress and 182 senior congressional staffers have violated the stock act, the insider trading law.

02:12:33.000 I'm wondering if you have any reaction to that.

02:12:35.000 And secondly, should members of Congress and their spouses be banned from trading individual stocks while serving in Congress?

02:12:41.000 No, I don't.

02:12:42.000 No, to the second one.

02:12:45.000 We have a responsibility to report in the stock on the stuff, but I'm not familiar with that five-month review.

02:12:54.000 But if people aren't reporting, they should be.

02:12:59.000 Look how nervous she looks.

02:13:00.000 This is a free market, and people, we have a free market economy that should be able to participate in that.

02:13:07.000 Hmm.

02:13:08.000 Okay.

02:13:11.000 Okay.

02:13:12.000 Right.

02:13:15.000 So I guess there is some law.

02:13:17.000 Yeah, there, there is some law that they were talking about.

02:13:21.000 Yeah, like you can't know about a decision that's going to be made and somehow have invested.

02:13:28.000 But there's a lot of evidence that they do.

02:13:29.000 And again, right and left.

02:13:31.000 Yeah.

02:13:32.000 It's definitely not one group.

02:13:32.000 It's a lot.

02:13:34.000 Yeah, it's not.

02:13:35.000 Well, she's the scapegoat because she's the best at it.

02:13:37.000 She's the G. She's top dog.

02:13:41.000 I don't even think she has made the most money.

02:13:44.000 I think someone else had made more money, right?

02:13:46.000 Wasn't it?

02:13:47.000 She's like 10th on the list or something.

02:13:49.000 Who's the top dog?

02:13:50.000 They're the one throwing her under the bus.

02:13:52.000 Put Nancy in front of the camera.

02:13:54.000 She likes Nancy.

02:13:55.000 Get her out there.

02:13:55.000 She likes the camera.

02:13:56.000 They're hiding.

02:13:57.000 Nancy's like, ah, well.

02:13:59.000 Yeah, there's some guy who's like fucking in the middle of North Dakota.

02:14:03.000 Just taking it easy.

02:14:04.000 Just on his ranch.

02:14:04.000 Yeah.

02:14:05.000 That guy, Dave Rauser, threw that.

02:14:07.000 149%.

02:14:09.000 Whoa.

02:14:10.000 Okay, but that's, it says stock value, portfolio value, but it doesn't say the numbers.

02:14:17.000 Yeah, well, I mean, that's.

02:14:18.000 You know what I mean?

02:14:18.000 Right.

02:14:19.000 It's like, so if their portfolio goes up 149%, but they only have 50 grand in it, as opposed to what Nancy has in it, hers only went up 70%.

02:14:28.000 Imagine if you, if you went to a fucking guy and he said he didn't give you a 70% return on your money, he'd be like, what's your name?

02:14:35.000 How do you know that?

02:14:36.000 What is your name?

02:14:36.000 So I can Google you, Mr. Madoff.

02:14:39.000 Right.

02:14:39.000 Exactly.

02:14:40.000 How are you doing that?

02:14:40.000 Yeah.

02:14:42.000 How are you making that much money?

02:14:43.000 That's crazy.

02:14:45.000 How about 150%?

02:14:48.000 That was like the top one.

02:14:50.000 He's doing good.

02:14:51.000 That guy's doing okay.

02:14:52.000 Right.

02:14:52.000 But maybe he's smart.

02:14:53.000 He only invests a little bit.

02:14:55.000 Just a touch.

02:14:56.000 Just a little bit.

02:14:57.000 Just for funsies.

02:14:58.000 In AI.

02:14:59.000 Yeah.

02:14:59.000 I mean, if you put in 20 bucks and you come back with 150% or 20 bucks, no one's going to get that.

02:15:04.000 Do you gamble?

02:15:05.000 Yeah.

02:15:05.000 Me?

02:15:06.000 No, but I will.

02:15:08.000 You mean you're ready to start?

02:15:12.000 But it's not like that.

02:15:14.000 No, I don't gamble on cards and stuff like that.

02:15:17.000 I used to gamble on fights.

02:15:18.000 I used to bet on fights.

02:15:20.000 But then I really decided at a certain point in time, I probably shouldn't be doing this.

02:15:24.000 That was a long time ago, though, before the UFC recently made it illegal.

02:15:29.000 Not illegal, but they passed a rule saying that the people that work for the UFC can't gamble on the fights because there was a scandal involved with fixed fights where it looks like somebody took a dive for money.

02:15:42.000 And then it turns out many fighters have been approached and asked to take dives.

02:15:46.000 And so there's a current investigation going on.

02:15:49.000 Just like basketball.

02:15:51.000 I bet the basketball thing.

02:15:53.000 Yeah, I mean, it's not new.

02:15:55.000 Especially when money's involved.

02:15:57.000 If you get gambling involved.

02:15:58.000 But my thought was like, I don't have any power in affecting whether or not the fight goes one way or the other.

02:16:04.000 I just have insight.

02:16:05.000 Right.

02:16:06.000 In terms of like what I think I have a more educated idea of what a fighter is capable of than a person who doesn't watch fights constantly.

02:16:17.000 And also in the beginning, the early days, I had a giant advantage in that I was a huge fan of these overseas organizations like Pride and Strike Force, or not Strike Force, but Ryzen.

02:16:30.000 A lot of these companies were bringing fighters over, and these bookmakers didn't know about these fighters.

02:16:35.000 And I knew a lot about them.

02:16:37.000 I'm like, this guy's going to fuck everybody up.

02:16:38.000 Like whatever this line is.

02:16:40.000 I would tell people, like when Anderson Silva came to the UFC, I told all my friends, I said, bet the house.

02:16:45.000 Bet everything on this guy.

02:16:47.000 I go, this guy's going to fuck everybody up.

02:16:49.000 He's going to be the champion inside of a year.

02:16:50.000 I was like, there's no one going to stop him.

02:16:52.000 And he was.

02:16:53.000 I was like, he's too good.

02:16:55.000 But you don't want to bet on football or something that you're not.

02:17:00.000 You're not sort of.

02:17:01.000 I would.

02:17:02.000 I'll bet a little bit.

02:17:03.000 I already want you to gamble for some reason.

02:17:06.000 I'm not scared of gambling, but I do know that it ruins some people's lives.

02:17:11.000 Yeah.

02:17:12.000 But so do cheeseburgers.

02:17:13.000 Yeah.

02:17:14.000 Some people, they ruin their life with Pop-Tarts and Mountain Dew.

02:17:14.000 Yeah.

02:17:18.000 It's true.

02:17:19.000 It's going to be, if it's going to be something.

02:17:21.000 Yeah.

02:17:22.000 But it doesn't have to be is what we're saying.

02:17:23.000 Right.

02:17:24.000 It's the same thing as junk food.

02:17:25.000 Like, I don't think junk food should be illegal.

02:17:27.000 But I think what Bobby's doing with junk food is really important.

02:17:30.000 And what he's also doing with just educating people, like, hey, like the new food pyramid.

02:17:35.000 Yeah.

02:17:36.000 Oh, my God.

02:17:36.000 Yeah.

02:17:37.000 Finally, it's aligned with all the real legitimate health experts.

02:17:40.000 Yeah.

02:17:41.000 Instead of this nonsense that you're supposed to mostly be eating grain like you're a fucking cow.

02:17:46.000 Like this is much.

02:17:47.000 By the way, you know, Bobby's job as secretary of HHS, even something like the food pyramid, which is, I don't know how you can argue with it, but people will find a reason to be mad about it.

02:18:06.000 Yeah.

02:18:07.000 And it's no matter what he says or sometimes the president says, even if it's something great like Favored Nations drug prices.

02:18:18.000 Right.

02:18:19.000 They're saying for the first time America is not going to pay more than other countries for drugs, pharmaceutical drugs.

02:18:28.000 Somehow there are people out there that would be mad about it.

02:18:32.000 They're not going to take it.

02:18:32.000 Yeah.

02:18:34.000 Well, they're furious.

02:18:35.000 They're going to be outraged.

02:18:36.000 A lot of them are probably paid off.

02:18:38.000 They're paid off to be.

02:18:38.000 There's a lot of paid influencers.

02:18:40.000 That's one thing to take into consideration when it comes to anything.

02:18:44.000 Not like foreign policy issues.

02:18:46.000 pharmaceutical drug issues.

02:18:48.000 There's a lot of people that are paid to have certain opinions.

02:18:51.000 That's a fact.

02:18:52.000 And get it out there.

02:18:53.000 Yeah.

02:18:53.000 They get it out there and someone takes advantage of the fact that this person has a large platform and then they say, hey, this fucking drug price thing is wrong.

02:19:04.000 We're doing something terrible.

02:19:05.000 These pharmaceuticals with drugs.

02:19:07.000 There's how much money they have to spend in order.

02:19:08.000 We have to make sure they're profitable.

02:19:10.000 It's pretty hard on them.

02:19:11.000 This is a crime.

02:19:12.000 Yeah.

02:19:12.000 This is a crime to make it cheaper for everybody else.

02:19:15.000 Like, they need all the money.

02:19:16.000 Do you think that influencers that are just, you know, the people that are showing you how to do an exercise or how to do your makeup?

02:19:26.000 You think those guys, yeah, somehow they get involved, right?

02:19:30.000 It depends on who they are and how influential they are.

02:19:33.000 But I know that happened during COVID.

02:19:35.000 They paid a lot of people to promote the vaccines.

02:19:37.000 They paid people to promote the vaccines, which is just paid people.

02:19:37.000 Yeah.

02:19:41.000 That's crazy.

02:19:42.000 Like, if the medicine's good, you shouldn't have to pay people to promote it.

02:19:45.000 Yeah.

02:19:46.000 When was the last time you saw an influencer getting paid to promote penicillin?

02:19:50.000 I've never.

02:19:51.000 Why?

02:19:51.000 Fucking never.

02:19:52.000 Because it works.

02:19:53.000 It's good.

02:19:54.000 You don't have to do that.

02:19:55.000 Yeah.

02:19:56.000 If you need it, you should go to the doctor and get penicillin.

02:19:58.000 It's like tried and proven medication.

02:20:02.000 That was a weird time.

02:20:03.000 That's a weird time.

02:20:04.000 That's a weird time.

02:20:05.000 Weird.

02:20:06.000 Super weird time.

02:20:07.000 But it opened up a lot of people's eyes and, you know, air quotes, red-pilled a lot of people.

02:20:14.000 I hear that term a lot.

02:20:15.000 Yeah.

02:20:17.000 Is there a term black-pilled?

02:20:19.000 Oh, never saw it.

02:20:19.000 Yes.

02:20:20.000 Oh, you never saw the matrix?

02:20:22.000 No, but I've seen.

02:20:23.000 You're an actress.

02:20:24.000 I've seen him going backwards.

02:20:27.000 It's like, okay, I get it.

02:20:28.000 I got the thing.

02:20:30.000 Oh, wait.

02:20:30.000 So red pill.

02:20:32.000 So Morpheus presents?

02:20:35.000 Yes.

02:20:36.000 Well, Morpheus is Lawrence Fishburne.

02:20:40.000 Lawrence Fishburne presents Keanu Reeves with two pills.

02:20:44.000 One of them is the blue pill.

02:20:46.000 If he takes this blue pill, he stays in the matrix and he has no knowledge of what reality is all about.

02:20:52.000 If he takes the red pill, the red pill is reality.

02:20:54.000 And he gets to see.

02:20:55.000 So he takes the red pill.

02:20:57.000 The red pill is reality.

02:20:59.000 And so there's a lot of people that took that blue pill and, you know, and they can't tell you what a woman is.

02:21:05.000 That's an interesting conversation when you hear that.

02:21:09.000 A great example of someone who took the blue pill.

02:21:13.000 When you just say, like in these congressional hearings, like Josh Howley or all these people say, what is a woman?

02:21:20.000 And they're like, someone who identifies as a woman.

02:21:22.000 Okay, what are they identifying as?

02:21:24.000 And it's like this weird circular logic and they just keep going and they don't have anything.

02:21:29.000 Can men menstruate?

02:21:31.000 Can men get pregnant?

02:21:32.000 Yes, some men can get pregnant.

02:21:34.000 Yes, some men can have babies.

02:21:36.000 Yes, some men menstruate.

02:21:38.000 And you're like, do you have a PhD?

02:21:40.000 Are you really a teacher?

02:21:42.000 This is crazy.

02:21:43.000 It is.

02:21:44.000 That's blue pill.

02:21:45.000 They took the blue pill.

02:21:46.000 Is there such a thing as a black pill?

02:21:48.000 What is that pill?

02:21:48.000 Yes.

02:21:49.000 People think we're doomed and we're fucked and everything's there.

02:21:52.000 They think it's all pedophiles and Satanists are running the government.

02:21:56.000 And then the white pills people think everything's going to be great.

02:22:00.000 Oh.

02:22:03.000 Can I get the white one?

02:22:04.000 Yeah, the white pill would be a good thing to take, but I don't think it's accurate.

02:22:08.000 I think you want a gray pill.

02:22:09.000 If they just have a gray pill that gets you like, hey, there probably are a bunch of Satanists and pedophiles in positions of high power.

02:22:16.000 And then there's also probably a real good chance that we'll pull through this and we'll be better than we've ever been before.

02:22:23.000 That's possible.

02:22:25.000 There's a lot of exciting possibility about the future of human beings.

02:22:30.000 And I think the good thing and the bad thing about the internet is the free distribution of information.

02:22:35.000 Because the good thing about it that I try to focus on is that more people have an understanding of how things are really working than ever before.

02:22:42.000 Yeah.

02:22:43.000 Like this Epstein file thing, right?

02:22:45.000 That was a big eye-opener for a lot of people.

02:22:47.000 When you see how many people after 2008, after he was arrested, after he went to jail, were actively taking money from him.

02:22:55.000 MIT took money from him and tried to hide it and said, make sure that any donations from Jeffrey are listed as anonymous.

02:23:02.000 So you find out like people are like, they referred to him as Voldemort.

02:23:06.000 Like you couldn't say his name.

02:23:07.000 Wow.

02:23:08.000 There was a lot of people that met with him and did business with him and traveled with him after he was arrested, after he went to jail.

02:23:18.000 Do you spend a lot of time reading them?

02:23:22.000 No, I try not to.

02:23:23.000 I try to have experts come on.

02:23:25.000 I try to read.

02:23:27.000 You can't change it.

02:23:28.000 Yeah.

02:23:29.000 And it'll fuck with your head.

02:23:30.000 Yeah, it's toxic.

02:23:31.000 will really get it'll stick with your that i and i know i've tried not to yeah um yeah I haven't read any of them.

02:23:39.000 I do see things on the news, and I'm not saying, oh, if I don't hear it, that means it didn't happen.

02:23:46.000 But it's just, it is such a toxic situation that I think it would be hard to.

02:23:52.000 It seems very dark.

02:23:54.000 Very dark.

02:23:54.000 Because it seems like it was this bizarre black male influence thing that was going on for a long time.

02:24:04.000 For so long.

02:24:06.000 Through different administrations.

02:24:09.000 That's what's so unbelievable about it.

02:24:14.000 How long, how long it was going on.

02:24:17.000 I'm in the files for not going.

02:24:19.000 Huh?

02:24:20.000 Yeah, I'm in the files for not going because Jeffrey Epstein was trying to meet with me.

02:24:24.000 Oh, I did see that.

02:24:25.000 Yeah, and I was like, what?

02:24:27.000 Like, no, thanks.

02:24:28.000 Yeah.

02:24:28.000 Aren't you glad?

02:24:30.000 Yeah, but I would have never went anyway.

02:24:31.000 It's like, it's not even a possibility that I would have went, especially after I'd Googled him.

02:24:35.000 I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?

02:24:37.000 This is like 2017.

02:24:39.000 One of my guests was trying to get me to meet him.

02:24:41.000 I was like, bitch, are you high?

02:24:43.000 Like, what the fuck are you talking about?

02:24:45.000 For what reason would you?

02:24:47.000 What would be if I was a guy who was like sucking up to the rich and powerful?

02:24:52.000 If I was really interested in hanging out with rich and powerful people.

02:24:55.000 You know, it's crazy.

02:24:58.000 That's so crazy.

02:24:59.000 But yeah, some people.

02:25:01.000 Some people get intoxicated by being in a circle of rich and powerful people, even if they're not like they don't even have any ambitions of being one of those people.

02:25:11.000 They just want to be around them.

02:25:12.000 They want to be around Nobel Prize winners.

02:25:16.000 Yeah.

02:25:16.000 Because this guy was, what he was doing was very clever in that he was getting all of these very powerful and very respected people together.

02:25:26.000 And you would figure like, oh, if that guy's there, if that lady's there.

02:25:30.000 Friends here.

02:25:30.000 This is fine.

02:25:31.000 How could this be bad?

02:25:33.000 Look, it's Steven Pinker.

02:25:34.000 How could this be bad?

02:25:35.000 You know, he's a genius.

02:25:37.000 And so you would go, I would imagine, you would go to these, because there's people that went to these, like, he had parties in New York.

02:25:45.000 Like, he brought in celebrities and comedians.

02:25:48.000 Didn't Lewis Black get invited to one of those?

02:25:50.000 I think he's talked about it.

02:25:51.000 I know Chelsea Handler went to one of them.

02:25:53.000 It's like he would bring all these people in, and he'd like to be around famous people and entertainers and a lot of intellectuals and professors.

02:26:03.000 And Noam Chomsky was famously, deeply involved.

02:26:07.000 So it's like you would go, I guess, to these places, and that was how he would convince everybody that everything is going to be fine.

02:26:15.000 Like, have you ever been invited to a party and someone tell you, hey, you should go to this party?

02:26:19.000 Brad Pitt's going to be there.

02:26:20.000 Like, they'll tell you that to try to get you to go.

02:26:23.000 They'll tell you about the famous people that are going to be there.

02:26:25.000 Like, oh.

02:26:25.000 Oh, I should go.

02:26:27.000 Oh, I didn't know.

02:26:28.000 I don't know.

02:26:29.000 Yeah.

02:26:29.000 You know?

02:26:30.000 Yeah.

02:26:31.000 Yeah.

02:26:32.000 It is weird.

02:26:33.000 Some people are really driven by that.

02:26:37.000 Really love the parties and the invitations.

02:26:42.000 And blindly ambitious.

02:26:44.000 Right.

02:26:44.000 They're willing to put aside, you know, all the possibilities of what could be awful about these people and get together with them without any even a cursory Google search as to who you're hanging out with.

02:26:57.000 You're going to have your assistant Google something.

02:26:59.000 How about you just do it?

02:27:00.000 Just go.

02:27:01.000 It doesn't take long.

02:27:03.000 Hey.

02:27:03.000 Look what I just found out.

02:27:05.000 This is kind of crazy.

02:27:06.000 Yeah.

02:27:09.000 It's just, but it's what's more bizarre is that there's probably in this, I talked to Mike Benz about this.

02:27:17.000 He was like explaining how this guy rose to prominence and how he got this kind of influence that he had.

02:27:23.000 And he was like, there's probably a bunch of those going on right now that we don't know about.

02:27:27.000 What people that are like that.

02:27:28.000 Like the same sort of Jeffrey Epstein type situation, just someone else and doing it somewhere else.

02:27:34.000 They just haven't been caught yet.

02:27:36.000 Yeah.

02:27:37.000 Like if he didn't get arrested, let's think about this.

02:27:39.000 Yeah.

02:27:39.000 Because his particular perversion, the darkness of it, was that he was into underage girls.

02:27:45.000 He was into young girls.

02:27:46.000 Imagine if he wasn't.

02:27:48.000 What if he was only into girls that are in their 30s?

02:27:50.000 Like, you would have never heard anything about it.

02:27:52.000 What if he just hired these adult ladies to come to these parties that were already sex workers?

02:27:59.000 Would you have heard anything about this?

02:28:01.000 I know.

02:28:02.000 And that's the thing.

02:28:02.000 Like, is that happening right now?

02:28:04.000 Did you hear about how this started in 2005?

02:28:04.000 Right.

02:28:07.000 I think this is.

02:28:08.000 No, but I'm glad you're saying that because I'm going to take two girls fighting.

02:28:13.000 So it started between a fight between two teenage girls at Royal Palm Beach High School in Florida.

02:28:19.000 Here are the details of how the event triggered the investigation.

02:28:22.000 Early 2005, two girls at Royal Palm Beach High School got into a fight during which one girl repeatedly called the other girl a prostitute or hooker.

02:28:31.000 Following the fight, school administrations and parents investigated searching one of the girls' purses and finding $300 in cash.

02:28:38.000 The confession.

02:28:39.000 A student initially claimed the money was from working at a fast food restaurant, but later revealed she had been paid for massages by a wealthy man, later identified as Jeffrey Epstein.

02:28:49.000 This revelation led to a police investigation in March of 2005 when the stepmother of one of the girls reported the molestation to the Palm Beach police.

02:28:57.000 Wow.

02:28:58.000 Wow, that's in 2005.

02:29:01.000 That was the first arrest.

02:29:01.000 And now listen to this.

02:29:02.000 It says they identify the Royal Palm Beach High was identified as a focal point for recruitment, where according to investigations, at least 15 students were lured into Epstein's Palm Beach home.

02:29:16.000 Holy shit.

02:29:17.000 Now imagine 2005.

02:29:17.000 That's so crazy.

02:29:19.000 Imagine if those girls didn't get in that fight.

02:29:21.000 Imagine if that didn't happen.

02:29:23.000 Yeah.

02:29:24.000 It's dark.

02:29:25.000 It's dark.

02:29:26.000 But if that guy was not into that, if he was not into high school girls, like if he was just into grown women who were sex workers and he ran the same operation exactly the same way, it could probably go on to this day.

02:29:26.000 Yeah.

02:29:39.000 Yeah.

02:29:40.000 And if everybody kept their fucking mouth shut, and if all these guys, you know.

02:29:43.000 Oh, yeah.

02:29:44.000 I mean, look at some people that are in the.

02:29:47.000 There was nothing going on, so.

02:29:49.000 Oh.

02:29:50.000 FBI concluded Jeffrey Epstein wasn't running a sex trafficking ring for powerful men, file show.

02:29:55.000 Oh, there you go.

02:29:56.000 There you go.

02:29:57.000 Who says that?

02:29:57.000 What's that source?

02:29:59.000 It's going around the.

02:30:00.000 I just found the place that the show in the headline that was going around the internet today.

02:30:03.000 Oh, today?

02:30:04.000 Yeah, the AP, it's the AP reporting it.

02:30:06.000 Yeah.

02:30:07.000 Today.

02:30:08.000 Oh, I thought that was fun.

02:30:09.000 I thought that was from 2005.

02:30:11.000 This is like the FBI.

02:30:15.000 That's the gaslightiest gaslighting shit I've ever heard in my life.

02:30:18.000 Whoa.

02:30:19.000 What do they think is going on?

02:30:21.000 Just a bunch of fun, a bunch of guys hanging out.

02:30:24.000 That is.

02:30:25.000 Being fellas, having cocktails, talking about science.

02:30:28.000 I'm still looking into it, but they don't have any evidence.

02:30:31.000 Look into it.

02:30:32.000 Maybe get Eddie Bravo in the case.

02:30:35.000 Looking into it.

02:30:36.000 That is so crazy.

02:30:42.000 There's probably a lot of that that's gone on forever.

02:30:45.000 And it's also probably a way that they can secure business deals and make sure that people do things they want to do.

02:30:52.000 They have a little something over them.

02:30:53.000 They do a little bit of this, do a little bit of that.

02:30:56.000 For sure.

02:30:58.000 This is what this is what's.

02:31:01.000 Yeah.

02:31:01.000 I mean, that's what Epstein was all about, was manipulating people and, you know, holding it over their head and getting them to do something.

02:31:15.000 Allegedly.

02:31:16.000 Allegedly.

02:31:17.000 It certainly seems like that.

02:31:19.000 It certainly seems like that was a big part of it.

02:31:21.000 I mean, is it possible that people didn't know what was going on?

02:31:25.000 Maybe initially.

02:31:26.000 Yeah.

02:31:27.000 You know, if someone got lured in like they tried to lure me in and they didn't do a Google search and also they're meeting with this eccentric billionaire, supposedly, who's just not politically correct?

02:31:36.000 Oh, he's a wild guy.

02:31:37.000 By the way, who cares?

02:31:39.000 People care.

02:31:40.000 People care.

02:31:41.000 People care about billionaires.

02:31:41.000 Weirdly.

02:31:43.000 Weirdly.

02:31:43.000 They want to meet.

02:31:45.000 They want access.

02:31:46.000 They think somehow or another it's going to rub off on them and they're going to be rich too.

02:31:49.000 Yeah.

02:31:51.000 I mean, listen, I see that.

02:31:53.000 Well, you see it with celebrities, of course.

02:31:55.000 Sure.

02:31:56.000 Everybody wants to be around that I see it with Bobby.

02:32:00.000 People want to be around him.

02:32:03.000 They want to access.

02:32:06.000 They want to tell him something.

02:32:07.000 They want to talk to him.

02:32:09.000 And it's like, well, it's intense.

02:32:11.000 Gets really weird.

02:32:12.000 Yeah.

02:32:13.000 It's real weird.

02:32:14.000 It's a, I think it's a natural human inclination.

02:32:19.000 You know, I think it goes back to the tribal days.

02:32:22.000 You want to be around the chief of the tribe.

02:32:24.000 You know, I just think it's a normal primate behavior.

02:32:28.000 Yeah.

02:32:29.000 And it makes sense that you want to be around people that sort of lift you up and give you ideas, show you something that wouldn't otherwise see.

02:32:42.000 In the best case scenario.

02:32:43.000 In the best case scenario.

02:32:44.000 In the best case scenario, you want to be around good people because you want to be around a good person.

02:32:48.000 If you meet someone who's really cool, like, wow, that guy's really cool.

02:32:50.000 I love being around that person.

02:32:52.000 Everybody loves him.

02:32:53.000 Why does it really?

02:32:54.000 I was such a nice guy.

02:32:54.000 Look at his behavior.

02:32:56.000 Yeah.

02:32:56.000 Like, and then, you know, that's good.

02:32:58.000 Rubs off on everybody.

02:32:59.000 But also, for some people, it's just like they see someone who's very important and they want to be important.

02:33:04.000 And they think being next to that person makes them important.

02:33:07.000 Just being next to them is going to do something for them.

02:33:10.000 Well, that's why people name drop.

02:33:12.000 Right?

02:33:13.000 Name dropping might be the worst strategy that's ever been conceived.

02:33:16.000 It doesn't work and yet people do it all the time.

02:33:19.000 Like it never works.

02:33:21.000 Nobody ever sees, well, it was over at Leonardo Caprio's house.

02:33:24.000 You know, Leo and I are close.

02:33:25.000 Nobody goes, wow, you're so cool.

02:33:28.000 You're friends with Leo.

02:33:29.000 No, they go, listen to this motherfucker name-dropping.

02:33:32.000 Right?

02:33:32.000 It's weird.

02:33:33.000 It's weird, but people still do it.

02:33:35.000 It's like, I was just telling my niece.

02:33:35.000 Yeah.

02:33:37.000 It's like.

02:33:39.000 Oh, you just name-dropped your niece.

02:33:41.000 I didn't see your name.

02:33:43.000 But I was saying, I was saying like a woman who has a bumper sticker that says classy lady.

02:33:48.000 I don't think you are.

02:33:49.000 Yeah.

02:33:50.000 It's like if you have this.

02:33:52.000 You have to tell me.

02:33:54.000 You got to tell me.

02:33:55.000 It's a good example.

02:33:56.000 It's like, I don't think so.

02:33:57.000 Classy ladies and bumper stickers, first of all.

02:34:01.000 What are you doing to your car?

02:34:03.000 What are you doing to your car?

02:34:04.000 You poor car.

02:34:05.000 It's a hard time.

02:34:06.000 Classy lady is hilarious.

02:34:07.000 Is it hard for you to go out?

02:34:08.000 Can you go out?

02:34:10.000 It is a struggle.

02:34:11.000 Are so famous that it's that there's, there's fame, you know where people are.

02:34:16.000 Some people come up and go, oh hi, I like the thing that you did or the thing that you do.

02:34:20.000 And then there's the super famous where it's, everybody knows you and it's probably it's got to keep you from actually doing normal things.

02:34:30.000 I would think it's definitely a problem.

02:34:32.000 Yeah, it gets in the way, but that's what you sign up for.

02:34:35.000 Yeah, you know, I didn't necessarily sign up for it, but it became what it is like.

02:34:40.000 When I first started doing this podcast, I never would have, never would.

02:34:43.000 If someone told me it was gonna be what it was, what it became, I might go.

02:34:48.000 Not ready for that.

02:34:49.000 I don't know if I want to do that.

02:34:50.000 That's a lie.

02:34:51.000 I like to just be like a B-list sort of weird guy.

02:34:54.000 On the outside it's like kind of keeps working, but that's it.

02:34:58.000 You're the first, you're the first person that I've ever talked to.

02:35:03.000 That's like yeah, I just want to be B-list.

02:35:05.000 Oh, B-list is sweet, it's good.

02:35:07.000 Nobody knows who you are, nobody cares.

02:35:09.000 You can go to the movies.

02:35:10.000 Oh yeah, nobody cares.

02:35:11.000 If they see you, they say hi, that's it.

02:35:12.000 Yeah, that's it.

02:35:13.000 Oh hey, aren't you, that guy that was on that show?

02:35:15.000 Yeah hi, that's it.

02:35:16.000 Yeah yeah nice, that's nice, that's perfect.

02:35:19.000 Yeah, you can go to Disney World yeah, yeah.

02:35:22.000 No, you get to a certain level, you can't go anywhere.

02:35:24.000 No, that's where you know you fucked up.

02:35:29.000 Well, don't run for president, by the way.

02:35:31.000 No chance, not a chance in hell.

02:35:33.000 No never never, not a chance in hell.

02:35:35.000 Zero political aspirations.

02:35:37.000 Don't listen to me if I run, don't vote for me.

02:35:39.000 Don't do it.

02:35:40.000 I'm not, I don't want that job.

02:35:41.000 I wouldn't be good at it.

02:35:42.000 I'm not designed for it.

02:35:44.000 No, that's a tough job.

02:35:46.000 It's a crazy job.

02:35:47.000 That made sense when there was 150 people and they all had muskets.

02:35:51.000 It doesn't make any sense that one alpha should be involved in controlling 350 million people.

02:36:00.000 Yeah, that's nuts.

02:36:02.000 That's a crazy job.

02:36:04.000 It's all a crazy setup.

02:36:06.000 And, by the way uh, elections are hell they're.

02:36:11.000 The way they're set up is crazy.

02:36:14.000 Yeah, there's a.

02:36:15.000 If you, when you're in it and you start seeing oh, this is what you have to do, especially running as an independent.

02:36:22.000 This is what you have to do for each state.

02:36:24.000 It's different for each state.

02:36:26.000 Yeah, just like who?

02:36:27.000 Who made up these rules?

02:36:28.000 That people that were trying to make sure that it was really hard to win.

02:36:31.000 Yeah, to make sure an independent there's a.

02:36:33.000 There's a thing where people are not allowed to question that if you question, you could call the fool or you called a conspiracy theorist.

02:36:41.000 Like hey, I think there's some election fraud.

02:36:44.000 How much do you think there is?

02:36:45.000 Like one, when people say I don't think the election in 2020 was rigged, I go well, I don't have any evidence, I don't know.

02:36:52.000 But if I had to ask you what percentage of election fraud is real, I don't think you would say zero.

02:37:01.000 Yeah, I don't think anybody would say zero.

02:37:04.000 Well, I mean right, do you think like?

02:37:06.000 There's a woman in California that recently registered her dog and and used a mail-in ballot and voted for her dog to expose the fact that you could do this?

02:37:15.000 And you know, California famously doesn't allow you to show id when you vote, which is crazy.

02:37:22.000 That's pretty crazy.

02:37:23.000 That's crazy.

02:37:24.000 Like, you're not allowed to?

02:37:25.000 Not only are you not asking, you're not allowed.

02:37:28.000 You're not allowed to show it.

02:37:29.000 That seems like if I was being super charitable, I can't find a reason why that makes sense.

02:37:34.000 And I've ever seen Kamala explain that, like, people in poor places, they can't go to Kinkos and they can't get their ID.

02:37:41.000 I haven't seen that.

02:37:43.000 Something to see.

02:37:44.000 Fucking nuts.

02:37:45.000 It's like the most rambly, cockeyed answer for, like, it doesn't, there's no answer that makes any sense.

02:37:51.000 Like, why shouldn't you have voter ID?

02:37:53.000 Yeah.

02:37:54.000 Unless you're trying to cheat.

02:37:56.000 So then the question is: okay, let's say they're not trying to cheat.

02:38:00.000 They just want to make it easy for people that don't have ID to vote.

02:38:03.000 How much of those people are voting that shouldn't be voting?

02:38:06.000 It's not zero.

02:38:07.000 It's not zero.

02:38:09.000 So how much of an effect did it have on the election?

02:38:12.000 I don't know.

02:38:12.000 Yeah.

02:38:13.000 But here's the thing, Democrats.

02:38:15.000 If that's a fact and it happened in 2020 and maybe it happened in 2024, we don't know.

02:38:22.000 Maybe it'll happen again in 2028.

02:38:24.000 Maybe the Republicans will lock it down and they'll rig the elections.

02:38:27.000 Do you think that's okay?

02:38:28.000 I don't think that's okay.

02:38:29.000 Right.

02:38:30.000 Well, by the way, remember Bush v. Gore?

02:38:34.000 Oh, yeah.

02:38:34.000 I mean, that's when things turned for me where I was like, I'm out.

02:38:38.000 I'm not.

02:38:39.000 It was so shady and it was so dramatic.

02:38:41.000 It takes a couple weeks to figure out who the president is.

02:38:44.000 I do.

02:38:44.000 Remember that?

02:38:45.000 Yeah.

02:38:46.000 I do.

02:38:46.000 Do you remember Hacking Democracy, the documentary on HBO?

02:38:49.000 No.

02:38:50.000 Ooh, it was really good because it was all about the Diebold systems.

02:38:54.000 And they showed in this documentary that these systems have third-party input.

02:38:59.000 So the idea was that these systems were owned by some large contributor to the Republican Party.

02:39:04.000 And these machines that were in place, supposedly on this show, if I remember correctly, they showed that they can affect the election.

02:39:13.000 They showed they could change the numbers with third-party input.

02:39:16.000 And they did it on the show.

02:39:18.000 So on this document.

02:39:19.000 So at that time, that was supposed to be evidence that the Republicans were capable of rigging the election.

02:39:24.000 And so everyone was supposed to be outraged.

02:39:26.000 Oh, my God, they've hijacked our election process and stolen it.

02:39:30.000 But then in 2020, because it was Trump, and he's such a polarizing character that when he said that the election was stolen, everybody was like, this is an affront to our democracy.

02:39:39.000 Never has a president said that the elections weren't fair.

02:39:43.000 That's not even true because Hillary did it in 2016.

02:39:45.000 She said that he wasn't the rightful president, that Russia helped him win.

02:39:50.000 I mean, it's been going on, I think, every almost every election, I think.

02:39:55.000 And just like Gore v. Bush, it was like people were so outraged.

02:40:02.000 And it was, you know, we're not going to take this.

02:40:04.000 This cannot be how our elections are held.

02:40:08.000 And, you know, for a moment in time, it felt like, oh, my gosh, they're really going to, whoo, they're going to redo it all.

02:40:15.000 Then it's every year.

02:40:16.000 Nothing.

02:40:17.000 Yeah.

02:40:17.000 Every year, it's people are outraged.

02:40:20.000 It seems like it escalates.

02:40:22.000 People love to be outraged.

02:40:23.000 They do.

02:40:24.000 It makes them feel like they're doing something.

02:40:25.000 They enjoy it.

02:40:26.000 They seem to enjoy it.

02:40:28.000 They do.

02:40:28.000 Yeah.

02:40:29.000 A lot of that.

02:40:30.000 Well, it gives you a purpose.

02:40:32.000 You know, that's part of the thing of being, you know, if you think you're an activist, you know, you think you're out there affecting things and you're out there chanting and screaming and carrying the signs that the NGO has had print up and you're out there and you've got a purpose because otherwise you'd just be sitting at home watching TikTok.

02:40:32.000 Yeah.

02:40:50.000 Yeah.

02:40:50.000 Instead, you're out here saving the world.

02:40:51.000 And people can see it.

02:40:53.000 But yeah, maybe organize a group to help people get their citizenship, to help people, to help people organize together to move things forward.

02:40:53.000 Yeah.

02:41:06.000 Yeah, the help people would be nice.

02:41:08.000 But the citizenship thing is kind of crazy because the borders were wide open for four years.

02:41:13.000 And they invited people into the country, essentially, helped them get in, gave them aid.

02:41:19.000 And then once they're in, now the new administration is trying to arrest them and capture them.

02:41:23.000 So both things are crazy.

02:41:25.000 It's crazy that you did this and that you just let these people and told them, you know, you're going to have a better life, come to America.

02:41:32.000 And then it's also crazy that now you've got armed masked people running up to people asking for your ID to check to see if you're an American.

02:41:41.000 Like both things are crazy.

02:41:42.000 Both things are crazy.

02:41:43.000 But it's just there's no pathway, even if you've been here.

02:41:51.000 Like if you came over here 25 years ago and you've been a great person and you pay your taxes and you raise a family and like there's no pathway.

02:41:57.000 You have to go back to Mexico or go back to Guatemala or wherever you're from.

02:42:01.000 The only way to apply to do it the right way is you have to leave the country, which also seems kind of crazy.

02:42:08.000 Like you've built the life here.

02:42:10.000 Right.

02:42:11.000 Should be some kind of amnesty.

02:42:13.000 Now, I'm not saying that for people that are criminals or people that like just got here.

02:42:18.000 Like there should be some amnesty.

02:42:19.000 No, it's like, no.

02:42:20.000 Like if you were one of the people that just recently snuck across the border, like no.

02:42:25.000 Like this is crazy.

02:42:26.000 You haven't built a life here.

02:42:27.000 This is going to be hard to that's a tough system.

02:42:33.000 Yeah.

02:42:33.000 Right.

02:42:34.000 If some people yes and some people no.

02:42:36.000 Oh, it's a tough system.

02:42:37.000 It's definitely a tough system.

02:42:38.000 It's tough.

02:42:39.000 The whole thing is tough.

02:42:40.000 Because we're a country that's established by immigrants.

02:42:40.000 No, it's not.

02:42:43.000 Yeah.

02:42:43.000 So it feels impossible.

02:42:45.000 But you can't have an open border.

02:42:47.000 You can't just have anybody come through because there's going to be a bunch of criminals that come through and you don't want that.

02:42:51.000 You don't want your country to be more crime infested.

02:42:54.000 You don't want your country to have murderers and cartel members just coming into the country and now getting citizenship and being able to vote and organizing.

02:43:04.000 That's crazy.

02:43:05.000 That's crazy.

02:43:06.000 That's a good way to destroy your country.

02:43:08.000 Yeah.

02:43:09.000 You know, you have to have some way to vet whether or not people are good people.

02:43:14.000 Yeah.

02:43:15.000 But when you just let everybody in and you let 10 million people in, how do you unless they get arrested while they're here?

02:43:21.000 What do you do?

02:43:21.000 Right.

02:43:22.000 And even then, like a lot of them during the Biden administration, they were getting let go.

02:43:27.000 Sanctuary cities were letting people go.

02:43:28.000 They weren't.

02:43:30.000 It's just crazy.

02:43:31.000 The whole thing is crazy because it's become a part of a political pawn because they just want a bunch of people in these swing states for the census.

02:43:40.000 So they get more congressional seats and if they get these people and give them the ability to vote, now you have a built-in voter base and you can just rig the election.

02:43:47.000 You could rig it that way.

02:43:49.000 I need the white pill.

02:43:50.000 Yeah.

02:43:52.000 Or the grayish white pill.

02:43:54.000 I'm handing out gray pills.

02:43:56.000 We might be okay.

02:43:58.000 That being said, we might be okay.

02:44:00.000 Things are headed in a pretty good shot.

02:44:02.000 It's possible that we could be okay.

02:44:03.000 But there's a bunch of things that have to happen.

02:44:06.000 But a bunch of things have happened that allowed us to understand how fucked we are, which is the first step towards fixing it.

02:44:15.000 Admitting you have a problem.

02:44:16.000 The big one was Elon buying Twitter.

02:44:18.000 That was one of the biggest ones of all time.

02:44:20.000 The problem.

02:44:21.000 No, the big solution.

02:44:23.000 Well, for the speech.

02:44:24.000 We found out when he bought Twitter that the government had been censoring people's speech.

02:44:30.000 Yeah.

02:44:30.000 You can talk to Bobby about that.

02:44:31.000 Crazy.

02:44:32.000 It's crazy.

02:44:33.000 Crazy.

02:44:34.000 Censoring accurate speech by experts from Stanford, MIT, these people that were experts in their fields that say this data does not align with, you know, what you're saying does not align with the truth.

02:44:48.000 And this is what I think.

02:44:49.000 And these people were silenced.

02:44:51.000 They were kicked off Twitter.

02:44:52.000 They lost their careers.

02:44:53.000 It was crazy.

02:44:55.000 And the government orchestrated it.

02:44:56.000 That's not good.

02:44:57.000 We wouldn't have known that if Elon didn't buy Twitter.

02:45:00.000 And you think people would be outraged by that?

02:45:02.000 You think a lot of people would be outraged on both sides of the aisle.

02:45:06.000 On both sides of the aisle.

02:45:07.000 They should be.

02:45:08.000 About free speech being shut down.

02:45:11.000 People were happy with them doing it as long as it aligned with their values.

02:45:15.000 Yeah.

02:45:16.000 That's not good.

02:45:17.000 Yeah.

02:45:18.000 That's not good.

02:45:19.000 None of it's good.

02:45:19.000 Good.

02:45:20.000 No.

02:45:20.000 Yeah.

02:45:21.000 It's like we've got to have some rock-solid ethics and morals.

02:45:25.000 And if we don't have that.

02:45:27.000 Where do we get those?

02:45:28.000 Jesus.

02:45:30.000 Jesus has to come back.

02:45:31.000 Please.

02:45:32.000 If you're going to come back, Jesus, now's a good time.

02:45:35.000 But if he came back, everybody like it's fucking AI.

02:45:37.000 They think we're dopes.

02:45:39.000 Jesus is hovering over the Pentagon.

02:45:42.000 Please stop with this war.

02:45:43.000 They're like, nobody believes it.

02:45:46.000 Yeah.

02:45:46.000 That'd be the real problem.

02:45:48.000 That's going to be the conundrum.

02:45:49.000 Jesus is going to come back when AI hits its full peak.

02:45:52.000 No one's going to believe.

02:45:53.000 They're going to go, ooh, there'll be a few.

02:45:56.000 But then that'll really divide like three people and the rest of the world.

02:46:00.000 It'll be the people that see like the Virgin Mary on a grilled cheese sandwich, those people.

02:46:04.000 Which, by the way, I've seen pictures.

02:46:08.000 You never know.

02:46:09.000 What a crazy thing if that's how the Virgin Mary wanted to give you a sign right on a grilled cheese sandwich.

02:46:16.000 Yeah.

02:46:16.000 I need to let you know.

02:46:18.000 God is real.

02:46:19.000 It's like, oh, I was hungry.

02:46:19.000 I'm here.

02:46:21.000 I wanted to eat that, but now what do you do with it?

02:46:24.000 Put it in a baggie.

02:46:25.000 You got to save it.

02:46:26.000 That's crazy.

02:46:26.000 You can't just eat it.

02:46:29.000 But then what happens?

02:46:32.000 Show relatives.

02:46:32.000 And keep it.

02:46:33.000 Keep it in the freezer.

02:46:35.000 I think we're going to need something that happens.

02:46:39.000 I hope it's not something bad.

02:46:41.000 Because one of the things when something bad happens is it unites us.

02:46:44.000 Like 9-11.

02:46:45.000 I know, yeah.

02:46:45.000 9-11 united us.

02:46:46.000 It did.

02:46:47.000 For a small amount of time, people were pretty awesome to each other.

02:46:50.000 And we realized that we're really together.

02:46:52.000 Yeah.

02:46:52.000 We're supposed to be one group of people.

02:46:54.000 I just hope it doesn't take something like that for us to snap out of this crazy right versus left thing because people just pick a side and adopt their pattern of thinking.

02:46:54.000 Yeah.

02:47:06.000 They adopt their whatever their values are, whatever their opinions are.

02:47:10.000 They just adopt a conglomeration of other people's opinions rather than forming their own.

02:47:15.000 And you can't question anything because if you do, you get cast out.

02:47:19.000 And you have to make clear that the other side is really wrong.

02:47:24.000 And the other side's evil, and you're good.

02:47:26.000 It's good versus evil.

02:47:26.000 Yes.

02:47:27.000 It is good versus evil.

02:47:28.000 And with every election, this could be the end of democracy.

02:47:31.000 Oh, every time.

02:47:33.000 Democracy is on the line.

02:47:35.000 This is the, yeah, I get sick of that one.

02:47:38.000 Yeah, Oprah said that when she was running for Conwell, this might be the last time you're ever allowed to vote.

02:47:42.000 Like, is that on the table?

02:47:46.000 Do you think people are going to tolerate that?

02:47:48.000 For real?

02:47:49.000 Trump's going to be an emperor?

02:47:51.000 Okay.

02:47:52.000 I know.

02:47:53.000 Yeah.

02:47:54.000 I know.

02:47:54.000 It's weird.

02:47:56.000 But that's how they get people riled up and get people to vote.

02:47:59.000 You got to, you know, you got to use hyperbole.

02:48:01.000 Yeah.

02:48:02.000 Yeah.

02:48:02.000 You have to make people message.

02:48:04.000 If Bobby tried to run for president again, would you tell him, fuck you, like still way?

02:48:11.000 Would you say, look, we did this rodeo?

02:48:13.000 Enough, dude.

02:48:15.000 He's not going to run again, but the baby Jesus.

02:48:19.000 If he did, you know, once again, I'm saying he's not running.

02:48:24.000 But I do feel like it would be different because before, I knew it was going to be crazy.

02:48:34.000 I didn't know why.

02:48:36.000 It's kind of like having a baby.

02:48:37.000 You know what's going to be hard, but you're not sure why until you have a baby.

02:48:40.000 And then you're like, every night, you're hoping your baby lives till tomorrow.

02:48:43.000 And it's a different kind of stress that you had no idea existed.

02:48:47.000 But with Bobby, I know now, I know what they're all up to.

02:48:56.000 I've heard, I've heard all of the stuff that comes out, the people that come out and they spend all day and night online going to events, trying to get him, attack him, expose him, paint him as this or that.

02:49:17.000 And it was a lot, you know, that was a lot.

02:49:21.000 And at the same time, it's so much bullshit that I know now what to expect.

02:49:32.000 Like just a lot of bullshit all day, every day.

02:49:35.000 And I would know more what to pay attention to and what to concern myself with.

02:49:44.000 Because before it was all coming at you every day, all day.

02:49:48.000 And also my own career, my own friends, my decisions got lumped in with that.

02:49:57.000 So everything changed.

02:49:59.000 Everything was changing all day, every day.

02:50:01.000 And I feel like the changes that have been made wouldn't have to – things have already changed.

02:50:10.000 Some things have changed.

02:50:11.000 So it wouldn't be in that state of chaos every day.

02:50:14.000 It would be a different type of chaos.

02:50:14.000 Right.

02:50:16.000 Yeah, definitely.

02:50:17.000 I see why people run again.

02:50:20.000 Because before, when I watched people run again, you watching it, and it's just like a, you can't, it's like a, you know, dumpster fire.

02:50:28.000 You're thinking, there's no way that guy is going to run again.

02:50:31.000 That had to be the worst four years.

02:50:34.000 Hillary.

02:50:35.000 Yeah.

02:50:35.000 There's no way she can run again.

02:50:36.000 That had to be the worst time of her life.

02:50:39.000 And then they run again.

02:50:40.000 You know, and it's, did you, then you feel like, oh, now I understand why.

02:50:47.000 Because there's almost that idea of like, that's all you had.

02:50:50.000 You gave your best shot.

02:50:52.000 You pulled out all the stops from 1989 to, you know.

02:50:58.000 So like they can't say the same bullshit over and over.

02:51:02.000 Right.

02:51:03.000 So there's that part of it that's like, okay.

02:51:06.000 And I, and it's, I'm sure it's intoxicating for some people.

02:51:09.000 Yeah.

02:51:10.000 Well, people like winning too.

02:51:12.000 People like winning.

02:51:13.000 So they want to, they want to be the person that's on the TV that says the new president of the United States.

02:51:19.000 They want to be that person.

02:51:20.000 I fucking won.

02:51:21.000 You know?

02:51:22.000 Yeah.

02:51:22.000 That's why people want to win an Oscar.

02:51:24.000 That's why people want to win everything.

02:51:26.000 They want to win.

02:51:26.000 They want to be the person on TV.

02:51:28.000 Everybody says they're a winner.

02:51:30.000 Ah.

02:51:31.000 What about all the presidents before TV?

02:51:35.000 They didn't care.

02:51:36.000 Or, I mean.

02:51:38.000 I don't know.

02:51:38.000 I mean, one of the weirder presidents that was on TV was Eisenhower, because when he was leaving office, he told everybody to be careful of the military-industrial complex.

02:51:48.000 He warned them on television his speech to the union.

02:51:53.000 You ever seen that?

02:51:55.000 It's kind of crazy.

02:51:56.000 Because this guy's, you know, decorated former president.

02:52:03.000 I mean, he's leaving office.

02:52:05.000 And as he's leaving, he's telling people to be careful.

02:52:11.000 That you have to be very wary that the military-industrial complex wants to go to war.

02:52:16.000 And that we have to be very wary about their influence.

02:52:20.000 This is a sitting president.

02:52:22.000 Yeah.

02:52:23.000 Who's announcing it to the nation?

02:52:25.000 And I think people were probably like, wait, what?

02:52:28.000 What was that?

02:52:29.000 I feel like that was in the late 50s.

02:52:32.000 When did Eisenhower give that famous speech?

02:52:35.000 61.

02:52:36.000 Farewell address.

02:52:36.000 61.

02:52:37.000 It's crazy.

02:52:38.000 You want to see it?

02:52:39.000 Yeah.

02:52:39.000 Let's play that and we'll leave with this because this is kind of nuts.

02:52:42.000 Because this is if this aired on television back then.

02:52:46.000 And obviously back then, there's no internet.

02:52:48.000 There's no VCRs.

02:52:49.000 There's no nothing.

02:52:50.000 So you saw it or you didn't see it.

02:52:51.000 Right.

02:52:51.000 And that was.

02:52:52.000 And then you heard it secondhand.

02:52:54.000 And whatever opinions you get about it are from your neighbors and that's it.

02:52:57.000 And everybody shared their opinions and it just got washed away.

02:53:00.000 And no one really thought about it until the internet came around and people were allowed to review it.

02:53:05.000 So this is Eisenhower in 61.

02:53:08.000 Vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment.

02:53:12.000 Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

02:53:22.000 Our military organization today bears little relation to that known of any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

02:53:35.000 Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry.

02:53:42.000 American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well.

02:53:50.000 But we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense.

02:53:56.000 We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions.

02:54:02.000 Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment.

02:54:10.000 We annually spend on military security alone more than the net income of all United States corporations.

02:54:20.000 Now, this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience.

02:54:29.000 The total influence, economic, political, even spiritual, is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government.

02:54:40.000 We recognize the imperative need for this development, yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications.

02:54:49.000 Our toil, resources, and livelihood are all involved.

02:54:54.000 So is the very structure of our society.

02:54:57.000 In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.

02:55:09.000 The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

02:55:16.000 We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.

02:55:22.000 We should take nothing for granted.

02:55:25.000 Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals.

02:55:37.000 Crazy.

02:55:38.000 It is crazy.

02:55:39.000 So it's basically.

02:55:40.000 He was predicting exactly what we're dealing with right now.

02:55:44.000 Which is just like the president should be responsible for keeping our country out of war.

02:55:52.000 Yeah.

02:55:54.000 And, well, also that there's a machine that wants to go to war.

02:55:58.000 Because that's how they make money.

02:55:58.000 Yeah.

02:55:59.000 Because there's more money involved in that than anything.

02:56:02.000 Oh, I've learned a lot about that, too.

02:56:05.000 That's scary.

02:56:06.000 That's pretty crazy.

02:56:07.000 You don't want to be on the wrong side of that.

02:56:09.000 No.

02:56:11.000 I've seen some shit, man.

02:56:12.000 I bet you have.

02:56:14.000 Like stuff I did.

02:56:15.000 I don't want to know.

02:56:17.000 Was the most disturbing thing, well, what was the most disturbing thing?

02:56:24.000 Uh...

02:56:25.000 For you personally, going through all of it.

02:56:27.000 Oh, for me.

02:56:28.000 Yeah.

02:56:32.000 I think, well, definitely I was worried about Bobby's safety, you know, just watching him.

02:56:43.000 Yeah.

02:56:45.000 Especially, yeah.

02:56:47.000 So that, and then, and then for me, you know, I everything changed and a lot of, and, I don't know, people just have, it was interesting to watch people change their attitude about me or that they I'm not the person they thought I was type of feeling, which is strange because I'm still the same person.

02:57:18.000 So that was really and still is to a sense very strange.

02:57:26.000 Yeah, but you find out who's real.

02:57:28.000 Yeah, you do.

02:57:29.000 That's probably a good thing.

02:57:30.000 It's good.

02:57:31.000 Yeah, it's good for someone to betray you like that.

02:57:34.000 Oh, look at you, sweetie.

02:57:36.000 See who rises to the top.

02:57:38.000 Yeah.

02:57:39.000 It's true.

02:57:40.000 It's painful, though.

02:57:40.000 It's hard.

02:57:41.000 You know?

02:57:41.000 Yeah.

02:57:42.000 It sucks if you really like that person and all of a sudden.

02:57:46.000 Yeah.

02:57:47.000 Yeah.

02:57:48.000 And, you know, and also just people that don't know you that they assume things that aren't true.

02:58:03.000 I mean, I sound ridiculous.

02:58:04.000 It's like, okay, get in line.

02:58:07.000 But it was different.

02:58:10.000 It just, I just did not expect politics to be such a part of my life.

02:58:16.000 Yeah.

02:58:18.000 I'm still shocked.

02:58:22.000 But, you know, but it's, it's, everything's good now.

02:58:26.000 But it was, there were times, and there still are times.

02:58:30.000 But really, the safety, Bobby's safety was the most stressful every day, all day.

02:58:39.000 You know, now he travels with the Marshalls.

02:58:42.000 And then that's a, and even when we, even when he was running, and that's why I do write my book, um, Unscripted, that, uh, you know, he was trying to get secret service protection for so long and was denied, which is also right while he was running, yeah, which is crazy, it is crazy.

02:59:03.000 Um, and yeah, the Biden administration is like, nope, no, yeah, everybody else can have it, but not you.

02:59:11.000 So crazy, yeah.

02:59:13.000 Um, and then when he and then he did get secret service after the assassination attempt on President Trump, but it wasn't for very long because the election was, you know, close anyway.

02:59:26.000 But just that just having secret service and security around you all the time is crazy, you know, and you learn, and also, you know,

02:59:41.000 what's disturbing, like you learn, you learn what to look for and what to do in an emergency and what, you know, things that you would never really things that you wouldn't think about.

02:59:57.000 But then now you walk into a room and you look at people and you're like, okay, that guy's sweating a lot for no reason.

03:00:06.000 You look to see what's suspicious, what's going on, what's and you see things differently and it's just like you have to have your guard up for the kooks.

03:00:14.000 Yeah, a lot of kooks.

03:00:16.000 There are a lot of kooks.

03:00:18.000 Yeah.

03:00:19.000 And, you know, this is a conversation we had recently.

03:00:22.000 Like, I think they've weaponized those kooks.

03:00:25.000 They make these people think that they're doing something important.

03:00:28.000 Yeah.

03:00:28.000 You know, and there's, there was a lot of talk like that.

03:00:30.000 Like someone needs to step up and do something.

03:00:32.000 Like, what?

03:00:33.000 What are you saying?

03:00:34.000 Like, what do you say?

03:00:35.000 What the fuck?

03:00:35.000 Right.

03:00:36.000 What the fuck are you saying?

03:00:37.000 Right.

03:00:38.000 Yeah.

03:00:39.000 Like, imagine advocating for that and being thinking you're on the good side.

03:00:43.000 You should do something.

03:00:43.000 Yeah.

03:00:44.000 Yeah.

03:00:45.000 That the only solution is that you can't do that.

03:00:47.000 Someone needs to do that.

03:00:48.000 Yeah.

03:00:49.000 Yeah.

03:00:51.000 I'm glad we're glad we're leaving this on a high note.

03:00:54.000 Well, it's, it's, um, it is an undeniably bizarre time.

03:00:54.000 Yeah.

03:00:59.000 You know, this is a bizarre time.

03:01:01.000 And again, I think it's uniquely bizarre today because we know more about what's really going on than ever before.

03:01:08.000 Yeah.

03:01:08.000 You know, we know more about the behind-the-scenes stuff than ever before.

03:01:12.000 And just there's yeah, but and it's it's it's about uh who do you believe?

03:01:18.000 That's the thing.

03:01:19.000 Well, once again, that's why people really like your show because you're not trying to win anything.

03:01:30.000 You're not trying to get anything.

03:01:32.000 That's why people really respond to it.

03:01:35.000 I think people need some kind of uncensored, uncontrolled discourse.

03:01:41.000 There's hardly any out there.

03:01:43.000 No, most of it is controlled by advertisers.

03:01:47.000 Yeah.

03:01:48.000 And it's just not good.

03:01:50.000 Yeah.

03:01:51.000 All my friends who do shows where they're on some sort of a show, like you, you have to, you get notes.

03:01:58.000 People come in.

03:01:59.000 You got to cut this out.

03:02:01.000 Can't talk about that.

03:02:02.000 Don't bring this up.

03:02:03.000 This is going to piss off that company.

03:02:05.000 This is going to do this.

03:02:06.000 Yeah.

03:02:07.000 It's not good for us.

03:02:08.000 And that's the beautiful thing about the internet.

03:02:08.000 Yeah.

03:02:10.000 Like, this is a thing that they never saw coming.

03:02:12.000 And this is what's so important about Elon owning Twitter.

03:02:16.000 You know, he just turned it into the Wild West, like, go crazy.

03:02:19.000 Yeah.

03:02:20.000 That's, that's what we need.

03:02:21.000 That's the only, you get a lot of bullshit.

03:02:24.000 There's a lot of, everyone's going to get tricked a few times.

03:02:27.000 But for the most part, reality resurfaces.

03:02:30.000 Hmm.

03:02:32.000 So that's our way to do that.

03:02:34.000 I'm going to try to remember that.

03:02:36.000 For the most part, reality resurfaces.

03:02:39.000 Yeah, when you try to squash it for a long time, no matter what, eventually it pops up.

03:02:44.000 Yeah.

03:02:44.000 You go, oh, this is real.

03:02:47.000 Yeah, because there's only one truth, right?

03:02:49.000 There are a lot of different lies, lies, lies.

03:02:51.000 But then one truth, and if it, like you're saying, keeps coming up, it's really hard to deny.

03:02:57.000 Yeah.

03:02:57.000 The problem is like with government, the truth is so difficult to understand.

03:03:02.000 There's so much going on.

03:03:03.000 There's so many moving pieces.

03:03:04.000 You're like, okay, well, why is that happening?

03:03:06.000 Well, who's doing that?

03:03:07.000 Well, why is that?

03:03:08.000 Why did they make that decision in the first place?

03:03:09.000 Well, what happened to that ruler?

03:03:11.000 How did he get kicked out of office?

03:03:12.000 We funded that.

03:03:13.000 Like, oh, God.

03:03:15.000 Yeah.

03:03:15.000 And it's just so, the rabbit hole goes so deep.

03:03:18.000 Yeah.

03:03:19.000 And that's one of the reasons why people get so obsessed with all this stuff because you could lose your mind just chasing down every single story.

03:03:26.000 Yeah.

03:03:28.000 Or just make a new one.

03:03:31.000 Make their own.

03:03:32.000 It's easy.

03:03:32.000 It's easier for them.

03:03:34.000 Just make a new one.

03:03:35.000 They do not have to worry about the facts of what's real.

03:03:39.000 That's just like, oh, did you hear about?

03:03:42.000 Unscripted.

03:03:43.000 You did the audio for it.

03:03:44.000 I did.

03:03:45.000 My sister says to play it like at least one speed faster.

03:03:52.000 Your sister's telling you you has like a subtle way of her saying you're boring.

03:03:56.000 Why are you talking so slowly?

03:03:57.000 Oh, that's funny.

03:03:58.000 But yeah, it's interesting.

03:03:59.000 I mean, I think it, of course, I hope I think it's interesting because I wrote it.

03:04:04.000 But yeah, there's definitely stuff about Kerb, stuff about the Bobby, the politics.

03:04:13.000 Bobby before politics, Bobby after politics.

03:04:16.000 It's great.

03:04:17.000 It's a wild ride.

03:04:18.000 All right.

03:04:19.000 Well, thank you very much, Cheryl.

03:04:20.000 I really enjoyed talking about it.

03:04:21.000 Thank you, Toby, Series.

03:04:22.000 Me too.

03:04:23.000 Thank you, everybody.

03:04:24.000 Bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - February 10, 2026

Joe Rogan Experience #2451 - Cheryl Hines

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