The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2459 - Jim Breuer

00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan experience.

00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan.

00:00:19.000 Good to see you, my friend.

00:00:20.000 Yeah, you too.

00:00:21.000 Young Jamie.

00:00:23.000 So I stopped you.

00:00:25.000 We were getting coffee.

00:00:26.000 Hold this.

00:00:26.000 I said, stop.

00:00:27.000 So what were you saying?

00:00:29.000 Which one first?

00:00:30.000 The prostate one.

00:00:31.000 Okay, so the prostate one.

00:00:32.000 Let's go straight to the dick. 0.96

00:00:34.000 That is not really the dick.

00:00:35.000 It's like it's behind the dick.

00:00:36.000 So this would be...

00:00:38.000 I'm an anatomist.

00:00:40.000 It is behind the dick.

00:00:41.000 Is that a word?

00:00:42.000 Anatomist?

00:00:43.000 Autopsy?

00:00:44.000 So bladder contains approximately five milliliters of cloudy yellow urine.

00:00:49.000 The prostate is slightly and diffusely enlarged with marked enlargement of the virumontanum.

00:00:59.000 That's how I would have said it.

00:01:00.000 The testes are unremarkable.

00:01:02.000 That's the last thing I want anybody to say about my nuts.

00:01:06.000 I want them to say, wow, what a great pair.

00:01:09.000 Great body, but the nuts are unremarkable.

00:01:13.000 Unremarkable.

00:01:14.000 So here is some sort of discussion between him and someone.

00:01:19.000 Okay.

00:01:20.000 The guy says, exactly, not clear what effects hormones might have on that aren't replaced by testosterone.

00:01:26.000 The advantage of taking testosterone, there are two different things.

00:01:29.000 You can have high testosterone and still have a need for Viagra because you don't have a prostate, right?

00:01:37.000 And then Epstein says, correct.

00:01:40.000 And then at the bottom, they show another document.

00:01:42.000 Let me keep going there.

00:01:42.000 Hold on.

00:01:43.000 So that's an extreme example.

00:01:47.000 I was actually going to try and move up one level sort of drug-enhancing life.

00:01:51.000 If you don't mind it, he doesn't mind it.

00:01:53.000 I'm sort of out of space thinking.

00:01:55.000 Oh, so he's trying to juice up.

00:01:57.000 So he's saying I'm moving up one level of sort of drug-enhancing life.

00:02:02.000 I don't know what I think he means.

00:02:04.000 He's going to start juicing.

00:02:05.000 That's what it sounds like.

00:02:07.000 So he doesn't have a prostate.

00:02:08.000 He doesn't have a prostate, it says.

00:02:10.000 There's another document that says something about it after a radical prostatectomy.

00:02:17.000 Prostatectomy.

00:02:19.000 So when they take out your prostate?

00:02:20.000 But that doesn't necessarily say he had his.

00:02:23.000 I think it's a document.

00:02:24.000 But he said he doesn't have a prostate, and it says patient Jeffrey Epstein.

00:02:30.000 It says, according to the American Urological Association, serum PSA should decrease and remain at undetectable levels after radical prostectomy.

00:02:39.000 And there's other documents where he's contacting doctors that specialize in that very thing.

00:02:47.000 Okay, so the doctor saying he had a radical prostactomy.

00:02:51.000 He's saying he does not have a prostate, but yet the body from the autopsy talks about the prostate is slightly and diffusedly enlarged.

00:03:07.000 So that's not his body?

00:03:10.000 That's what it seems like.

00:03:11.000 I don't buy.

00:03:13.000 You don't buy that?

00:03:13.000 I don't know, but it's dead.

00:03:15.000 Right.

00:03:15.000 Why would you...

00:03:16.000 Right, I don't buy his dead either.

00:03:17.000 Here's the other.

00:03:17.000 But, however, hold on.

00:03:19.000 This is from an attorney.

00:03:21.000 So this is like assistant United States attorney or something.

00:03:26.000 So the OCME told me it signed a confidentiality agreement in connection with the investigation into the murder of Jeffrey Epstein.

00:03:35.000 So that's almost six months after he died.

00:03:39.000 They're asking for a document about the investigation of the murder of Jeffrey Epstein.

00:03:44.000 Was that because there was accusations that it was a murder?

00:03:48.000 So we talked about this before, that 18 days before he allegedly committed suicide, he complained that his cellmate tried to kill him.

00:03:58.000 And you know who his cellmate is?

00:04:00.000 Oh, you don't know?

00:04:01.000 I'm not Kurt Medskirts.

00:04:01.000 No.

00:04:03.000 You don't know?

00:04:03.000 Oh, you don't know.

00:04:05.000 His cellmate was this gigantic cop who was a murderer.

00:04:09.000 He'd killed four different drug dealers.

00:04:12.000 Yeah, he was a contract killer.

00:04:14.000 This is the guy.

00:04:15.000 That's his fucking cellmate.

00:04:18.000 Look at that gorilla. 0.92

00:04:20.000 That's a silverback. 1.00

00:04:21.000 Yeah, dirty cop, murderer.

00:04:25.000 And then they said, hmm, most high-profile witness of all time, defendant of all time.

00:04:31.000 Let's put him in jail with a murderer. 0.96

00:04:33.000 A guy who contract kills.

00:04:34.000 Dirty cop.

00:04:37.000 And then he says they, well, the report was they found him unresponsive with a noose around his neck or an orange jumpsuit turned into a rope around his neck.

00:04:46.000 And then he said that his cell may try to kill him.

00:04:50.000 My question.

00:04:53.000 Does anyone really believe he was in a jail cell?

00:04:56.000 Because I know if I had the guy that can unravel entire government dynasties and take down an entire system, the last thing.

00:05:11.000 Dude, he's somewhere about three miles underground with maybe a ball in his mouth with electric rods.

00:05:20.000 Or he's in Israel sipping Mai Tais.

00:05:22.000 Correct.

00:05:23.000 Either place, it's like that video you said, you sent us on a runaround.

00:05:30.000 We're going to ask you one more time, or then we're going to laser off your nipples. 1.00

00:05:33.000 I'm telling you right now, we need to start doing that to him.

00:05:36.000 So it's, yeah, he's either in Israel, like you said.

00:05:39.000 If they had that, they would just get rid of his body.

00:05:42.000 You saw the picture of the so-called, that was him in Israel.

00:05:46.000 I think that's AI.

00:05:48.000 I think it's AI too.

00:05:49.000 That's a scary thing with AI.

00:05:50.000 I think it even had a little AI watermark on it.

00:05:53.000 The one I saw at least.

00:05:54.000 But who knows?

00:05:55.000 It could be a real picture that someone put through AI to put a watermark on it so that people could go, oh, it's AI.

00:06:02.000 You don't know.

00:06:02.000 Right.

00:06:03.000 Do you see the lady that they say looks exactly like Ghelaine Maxwell?

00:06:06.000 I don't think she looks exactly like Ghelane Maxwell.

00:06:08.000 I think she looks exactly like Ghelane Maxwell 20 years ago.

00:06:11.000 That was a deep fake.

00:06:12.000 It's a deep fake?

00:06:13.000 Oh, okay.

00:06:13.000 Yeah.

00:06:14.000 Sim Triple E reposted the guy that made it.

00:06:16.000 He made another video that was not as good where he's like looking at Benjamin Netanyahu on the street.

00:06:20.000 It's not really as good.

00:06:22.000 The problem is the aging.

00:06:24.000 She doesn't look aged.

00:06:25.000 She looks younger.

00:06:26.000 But I guess that's what happens when you get out of jail.

00:06:29.000 And you get more attractive.

00:06:31.000 Yeah, you get food.

00:06:32.000 You get sunlight, makeup, a little exercise.

00:06:35.000 Taking some yoga.

00:06:37.000 Yeah, is there any video of him in jail?

00:06:40.000 Are there any photos of him in jail?

00:06:41.000 I've never thought about that before, but what you're saying is a good point.

00:06:45.000 Joe, if you held, let's say you were the person that had all this incredible information around the world, bribery.

00:06:54.000 Do you really think?

00:06:56.000 You take drug lords.

00:06:57.000 You're not killing them.

00:06:58.000 You need the information.

00:07:00.000 So you're going to bring him somewhere.

00:07:01.000 You're going to milk him to it, however that is, whether he's tied up, whether you're going to torment him.

00:07:07.000 You're like, listen, I'm telling you right now, we're going to take care of you.

00:07:11.000 However, I need to know.

00:07:13.000 You say there's tapes, right?

00:07:14.000 Yeah.

00:07:15.000 Where are the tapes?

00:07:15.000 Write them down.

00:07:16.000 And you're going to stay.

00:07:17.000 Don't feed him.

00:07:18.000 Don't feed him until we get that one tape and we have these names in our hands.

00:07:23.000 And that's probably been going on even for months, for years.

00:07:29.000 You're not taking someone like that and going, oh, we're just going to put this very valuable human being into a jail cell where two guys making $18 an hour are going to watch it.

00:07:43.000 We're sleeping.

00:07:45.000 And the cameras are down.

00:07:46.000 Stop.

00:07:46.000 They pre-production.

00:07:48.000 All right.

00:07:48.000 So let's get the green screen and we have him walking in here, sir.

00:07:51.000 That looks somewhat and we can release it down the road.

00:07:55.000 It's processed Hollywood nonsense.

00:07:57.000 I don't buy it.

00:07:58.000 This is assuming, though, that he was working on his own, that he had all this information.

00:07:58.000 Okay.

00:08:03.000 So, if he's not working on his own, he's working for an intelligence agency, then they have that information as well.

00:08:09.000 So, along the way, so there are no secrets that he's holding.

00:08:11.000 They have all the secrets.

00:08:13.000 This is much more likely.

00:08:15.000 So, in order for him to be in the position that he was in, allegedly, working for intelligence agencies, working for either the Mossad, the CIA, or both, all the above.

00:08:27.000 I would assume that along the way, all of the information was shared.

00:08:32.000 I do not believe they would let one person have access to all that information and store it themselves.

00:08:38.000 I think they would have access to it at every step of the way.

00:08:41.000 They would communicate with him at every step of the way.

00:08:44.000 And they would probably have, like, if I was running a government agency like that, I would say, tell me what's going on.

00:08:50.000 What do you have on Bill Gates?

00:08:52.000 What do you have on Les Wexner?

00:08:54.000 What do you have on these guys?

00:08:55.000 Yeah.

00:08:55.000 What are they willing to do?

00:08:56.000 What about these scientists?

00:08:58.000 Are they willing to fill bogus science papers out?

00:09:02.000 And what can we do?

00:09:04.000 Jeffrey Epstein stashed secret files and storage unit across U.S. that may include never-before-seen evidence.

00:09:12.000 This came out yesterday that when he got arrested, he supposedly paid for investigators to go round up all of his stuff and put it in various storage units across the country.

00:09:12.000 Oh.

00:09:22.000 Like it's a wild goose chase now.

00:09:25.000 And like that is stuff that apparently maybe no one's ever seen.

00:09:28.000 They don't know if they're still being paid for.

00:09:30.000 Imagine if they found, I mean, you know, those storage unit shows when they break into those storage unit shows.

00:09:30.000 They don't know.

00:09:35.000 I don't understand.

00:09:36.000 And it happened on the real-time one, right?

00:09:39.000 Like you think they're just getting like old baseball copies.

00:09:41.000 I tired those shows are bullshit.

00:09:43.000 A friend of mine told me that what they do is they'll stock those shows.

00:09:46.000 They'll stock those storage units and then they pretend that they're buying the storage unit that's been abandoned and then they get in there and then they find things.

00:09:53.000 But those things were fucking. 1.00

00:09:55.000 Yeah, I don't buy any reality TV.

00:09:57.000 I know, but that's awful.

00:09:59.000 Well, it's entertainment.

00:10:01.000 I feel duped.

00:10:02.000 Do you really?

00:10:03.000 Joe, you really thought one time you thought it was reality.

00:10:03.000 I do.

00:10:06.000 Not the government corruption.

00:10:08.000 Not all the Medicaid fraud.

00:10:10.000 Not all the immigration, not all the ICE stuff.

00:10:13.000 No, what really bugs me is lying.

00:10:16.000 On a storage unit show?

00:10:18.000 I just can't.

00:10:19.000 Or like a cash cab show.

00:10:21.000 Like, are they really contestants?

00:10:23.000 These are great distractions.

00:10:25.000 These are great distractions to keep us from paying attention to what's really going on in the world.

00:10:29.000 The reality TV.

00:10:31.000 There's no reality.

00:10:33.000 It's all well-produced.

00:10:34.000 Joe, wow.

00:10:35.000 How much is it well-produced?

00:10:37.000 Here's the question.

00:10:38.000 Is it really well-produced?

00:10:39.000 Because it seems like this one was a really shitty production job.

00:10:41.000 That was production.

00:10:42.000 That was a bad.

00:10:43.000 That was like low, low.

00:10:44.000 The only guy making it is the guy that's selling the ads.

00:10:47.000 Well, not crushing.

00:10:48.000 The guy who's in charge of it fucks kids. 0.71

00:10:51.000 That's this one.

00:10:51.000 Right?

00:10:52.000 Yeah.

00:10:52.000 So this one, why would you let that guy, who's going to eventually get caught?

00:10:58.000 I would assume if you have a thing for kids, you have a thing for, if you're a pedophile, if you're into like 14-year-old girls, I would assume you're going to get caught.

00:11:09.000 And if I had a guy like that, or was this at a time where you couldn't get caught because there was no internet, and then it got to a point where he had so much power and control because he'd been there for so long, they couldn't, they're like, oh, Jesus Christ, we got a problem.

00:11:26.000 Well, he's thinking that criminals, they never think they're getting caught, period.

00:11:32.000 Especially, like, think organized crime.

00:11:35.000 If you're, it's no different like the scenes from Goodfellas, right?

00:11:39.000 You come in, it's like, what's the matter with you?

00:11:41.000 I told you, what you show up with a pink Cadillac?

00:11:44.000 What's the matter with you?

00:11:45.000 Right.

00:11:45.000 What's the matter with you?

00:11:46.000 They can't help it.

00:11:48.000 He told everyone, don't spend the money.

00:11:50.000 Don't look flashy.

00:11:53.000 This guy, without a doubt.

00:11:54.000 His wife had a mink coat on, remember that?

00:11:57.000 Take it off.

00:11:57.000 Right.

00:11:58.000 Take it off.

00:12:00.000 He gave it to me for my birthday.

00:12:02.000 Like, get up.

00:12:03.000 What's the matter with you?

00:12:04.000 And now that guy, there's no, this guy, he's just the, you remember when the steroids came out in baseball?

00:12:10.000 Uh-huh.

00:12:11.000 And what'd they do?

00:12:12.000 They were like, listen, you got to take a hit.

00:12:14.000 You got to take a hit.

00:12:15.000 Mark, Barry Bonds, you guys, you're going to go out.

00:12:18.000 We're going to front you.

00:12:19.000 You're going to stay in baseball.

00:12:19.000 Don't worry.

00:12:21.000 We'll let it, it'll go away in about 10 years.

00:12:24.000 But the owners are not going to get popped.

00:12:26.000 The people making the steroids injected people aren't going to get popped.

00:12:30.000 They got popped.

00:12:31.000 Balco got popped.

00:12:33.000 No, they got popped.

00:12:34.000 The little guys get popped.

00:12:35.000 The little ones.

00:12:36.000 No, no, no.

00:12:36.000 The head of Balco went to jail.

00:12:38.000 I had him on the podcast after he got out of jail.

00:12:40.000 What about the owners that knew it was going to go?

00:12:42.000 What about the agents and lawyers that are supplying their stuff?

00:12:45.000 No, no, no.

00:12:45.000 Listen, you don't understand about the baseball thing.

00:12:48.000 Balco had developed a state.

00:12:50.000 Victor Conte, who had been on the podcast before, was a scientist, essentially.

00:12:55.000 And he had developed a steroid that was undetectable because steroids, they detect them based on certain molecules.

00:13:02.000 And if you adjust certain molecules, it doesn't show up in the test.

00:13:05.000 So he developed this thing called the CLEAR.

00:13:07.000 He called it the CLEAR because it evaded tests.

00:13:09.000 This is to evade the test that the Major League Baseball Association was doing and any drug tests because this was an unknown steroid.

00:13:19.000 So this was not known by the organizations.

00:13:22.000 It was not known by the team.

00:13:23.000 It was not known by anybody.

00:13:25.000 People suspected it because Barry Bonds grew five hat sizes and gained 50 fucking pounds of solid muscle.

00:13:32.000 People suspected it.

00:13:33.000 But the bottom line is you don't know what you don't know.

00:13:37.000 And they didn't know.

00:13:38.000 There's no reason to tell them, hey, guys, we're giving Barry some secret steroids.

00:13:43.000 He did this for his own personal gain because he was brought to the attention of this Victor Conte guy who eventually became an anti-doping guy, which is really weird.

00:13:52.000 He ran SNAC, which is this thing that helps people detect testing and use it, use supplements that are illegal.

00:14:01.000 Sure.

00:14:02.000 But I don't think that was known by everybody.

00:14:05.000 I think they kept it all on the DL because there was such a blight that was attached to steroid use.

00:14:10.000 You were a cheater, especially in baseball, which is like the American pastime, be a cheater in baseball.

00:14:16.000 Well, I'll tell you this.

00:14:18.000 I remember at that time because I was in the, you were in TV world, TV World, and you attract all different friends.

00:14:27.000 We did a show.

00:14:28.000 Well, you weren't on the show back then.

00:14:30.000 On hardball.

00:14:31.000 The baseball bonds was on hardball.

00:14:34.000 Yeah.

00:14:35.000 He was on one of the episodes.

00:14:36.000 Like third.

00:14:37.000 Yes, I remember seeing it because we'd sit and watch my wife and I'd be like, gosh, Joe.

00:14:42.000 We try it out for the same thing.

00:14:43.000 And I rooted.

00:14:44.000 Well, you were in the pilot.

00:14:45.000 Yes, I was in the pilot, but I rooted for everyone I knew.

00:14:47.000 Yeah.

00:14:48.000 I was like, oh, I got it.

00:14:49.000 You've always been like that.

00:14:50.000 I loved that.

00:14:51.000 But back then, like a couple years later, you come friends with certain type of people and lawyers, agents, blah, blah, blah.

00:15:01.000 And I remember, I remember one night hanging out, you know, kind of like, wow, this is so-and-so who I don't want to get into names and all that, but they would go, you want to hear some crazy phone calls.

00:15:16.000 Like, what do you mean?

00:15:17.000 It's like, boom.

00:15:18.000 And they told me 75%.

00:15:22.000 I'm like, what?

00:15:24.000 75%.

00:15:25.000 75% of what?

00:15:26.000 PEDs are on steroids.

00:15:28.000 I'm like, what?

00:15:29.000 75, 80% baseball.

00:15:31.000 I'm like, come on.

00:15:32.000 There's no way.

00:15:33.000 Come on.

00:15:34.000 And then he'd play a phone message.

00:15:37.000 Now, I didn't want to say this for years because I thought I'd get whacked.

00:15:42.000 Hey, I love you.

00:15:44.000 So I remember them going, here, listen to this.

00:15:47.000 And you would hear like the wives of my life going, if he hits me one more time, I'm reporting.

00:15:58.000 And then he played the next one, like, hey, man, we got a big series coming up with the Dodgers.

00:16:02.000 I need my shit.

00:16:03.000 Like, now I need it by blah, blah, blah.

00:16:06.000 So, who is this person calling?

00:16:08.000 These were ball players calling their representade representation.

00:16:14.000 So, the representation means they're agents and lawyers.

00:16:17.000 So, maybe the agents are the people that hooked him up with the people that had the juice, which makes sense.

00:16:22.000 And then they would talk about.

00:16:23.000 But the agents want money.

00:16:24.000 They want money.

00:16:25.000 So that's the best way to get money.

00:16:25.000 And now they're going to be able to do it.

00:16:27.000 Guys got to hit home runs.

00:16:28.000 This guy hit home runs.

00:16:29.000 He's got to start felting the ball.

00:16:31.000 He makes money.

00:16:31.000 I make money.

00:16:32.000 That makes sense.

00:16:33.000 And then we all make money.

00:16:34.000 And then I start telling if I, if I'm not saying this happened, but if you're an owner, I'm like, hey, Joe, I'm just telling you right now, this guy, you want to keep an eye on him.

00:16:42.000 He's going to start jacking 20 extra home runs.

00:16:45.000 Really?

00:16:46.000 How's he going to do that?

00:16:47.000 You'll find out.

00:16:49.000 We don't need to talk about that.

00:16:50.000 But next year, if you got XYZ budget, I think he'd like to play it.

00:16:54.000 So there's a lot.

00:16:56.000 There's a lot at play.

00:16:58.000 And now you're infiltrating children because now you're going into farm leagues now.

00:16:58.000 Right.

00:17:03.000 You can't make it unless you start doing that.

00:17:05.000 But that's why I say someone like this guy with a long network, there's so many tentacles all over the place.

00:17:14.000 But you always need the fall guy.

00:17:17.000 Right.

00:17:18.000 I mean, was he the demon?

00:17:20.000 Yeah.

00:17:21.000 But this is a lot of damage.

00:17:23.000 Did you see that one, the email that I sent you, Jamie, where he's talking about children for sex?

00:17:31.000 Do you remember, you know, the email I sent you, Jamie?

00:17:35.000 I was like, well, that pretty much sums it up then because he actually said it.

00:17:35.000 I sent it the other day.

00:17:38.000 Oh, yeah, Find that.

00:17:40.000 I sent it to you in a text message.

00:17:42.000 This one's crazy.

00:17:43.000 This one's crazy.

00:17:44.000 So he's having a conversation with a woman who says that she heard that there's a place.

00:17:44.000 I've heard it.

00:17:48.000 Here it is.

00:17:49.000 She's very emotional, kind, loving, sharp.

00:17:52.000 I think you can become friends too.

00:17:54.000 So here it says: a friend, Eliza, told me about a project she's doing researching a really bad guy that gets children for sex sent to his island.

00:18:03.000 She almost fainted when I told her that person is me.

00:18:07.000 Wow.

00:18:12.000 Like, what?

00:18:15.000 Okay, so that's just there.

00:18:18.000 There's no way to interpret that any other way.

00:18:21.000 That person is me.

00:18:22.000 That person is me.

00:18:24.000 Children for sex sent to his island. 0.69

00:18:28.000 That person is me.

00:18:30.000 Holy shit.

00:18:34.000 That one is fucking crazy.

00:18:37.000 That's 2018.

00:18:41.000 So, yeah, this has been going on for.

00:18:43.000 So this is like right before he got arrested, right?

00:18:46.000 Supposedly.

00:18:47.000 But when did he get arrested?

00:18:48.000 2019.

00:18:49.000 2019.

00:18:50.000 What month?

00:18:53.000 I don't know.

00:18:54.000 I feel like it was May, maybe.

00:18:56.000 So this was like, but there was an investigative reporter that was at the head of all this, this lady that was really pushing because she had found out about his sweetheart deal in 2008. 0.88

00:19:07.000 And she started gathering information and pushing it.

00:19:12.000 And that's what led ultimately, I think, to his being arrested.

00:19:17.000 Or what I would say is the front of like, hey, we're doing things.

00:19:22.000 Well, if there's a different body that the autopsy had, it makes you question, like, was he ever in that cell?

00:19:29.000 Or was this person who's in that cell?

00:19:30.000 Did they sell this person as Jeffrey Epstein?

00:19:33.000 Right.

00:19:34.000 Well, you imagine the guy in the cell going, I am not.

00:19:37.000 No, no.

00:19:37.000 I'm not.

00:19:38.000 I know, my name is Harvey.

00:19:40.000 I live on the Upper East Side.

00:19:42.000 I don't know what happened.

00:19:43.000 I got a speeding ticket.

00:19:44.000 And now, next thing you know, I can't go home.

00:19:47.000 Yes.

00:19:48.000 And this poor guy's just getting railed hard before just sitting there and he's tying him up on the thing.

00:19:54.000 And he says, Yeah, you're going to spin him around for a couple hours.

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00:20:55.000 Is there any photos of Jeffrey Epstein that are?

00:20:59.000 Well, here's the thing: are they real?

00:21:01.000 In a jumpsuit?

00:21:02.000 Like, in court, in jail, getting arrested.

00:21:07.000 I was trying to, I'm looking forward to it.

00:21:08.000 When you arrest big figures, he was a big figure.

00:21:10.000 It's a big to-do.

00:21:13.000 Jeffrey, what'd you do?

00:21:15.000 What about the children?

00:21:16.000 Care to comment on the children?

00:21:17.000 What are you doing with the children, Jeffrey?

00:21:19.000 Why did you need 330 gallons of sulfuric acid?

00:21:21.000 They didn't know about that.

00:21:22.000 What are chickens?

00:21:23.000 What are chickens?

00:21:26.000 What is jerky?

00:21:27.000 What is jerky?

00:21:28.000 Well, no one knew any of that stuff back then.

00:21:30.000 If he was alive now, for sure, those questions would be shouted out.

00:21:33.000 What is pizza and pasta?

00:21:35.000 What happened at Obama's White House?

00:21:39.000 What is pizza?

00:21:40.000 Pizza is mentioned like 900 times.

00:21:43.000 It's a little weird.

00:21:44.000 It is a code.

00:21:45.000 Clearly is a code.

00:21:46.000 You know how crazy I felt for the longest time?

00:21:48.000 Like, I'd just be in a coffee shop.

00:21:50.000 And I'm like, you guys don't, you guys, you don't know.

00:21:53.000 Like, Jim's a little wacky.

00:21:56.000 But now it's, it's coming.

00:21:57.000 Did you see that video we played the other day of this guy at the airport just yelling out?

00:22:01.000 Yes.

00:22:01.000 You guys are going out about your business?

00:22:03.000 No, it's a guy.

00:22:04.000 He's like, the files have been released.

00:22:06.000 Yeah.

00:22:08.000 I saw that.

00:22:08.000 And they were going, and you're all just gone about your business.

00:22:12.000 The files are in these kids are being tortured.

00:22:15.000 But my question was like, what do you want me to do?

00:22:17.000 What do you're flying to Atlanta?

00:22:19.000 What do you want me to do?

00:22:21.000 I got a gig.

00:22:22.000 What do you want me to do?

00:22:23.000 Scream and yell at everybody?

00:22:24.000 Get arrested?

00:22:25.000 How's that going to fix anything?

00:22:26.000 This all happened 10 years ago.

00:22:28.000 What do you want me to do?

00:22:29.000 And what do you do at this point?

00:22:32.000 Because it's.

00:22:34.000 We don't do anything at the airport.

00:22:35.000 You get on your phone.

00:22:36.000 At the airport, right?

00:22:37.000 Like, I got to get home.

00:22:39.000 My wife's mother.

00:22:40.000 But that's like a lot of people online.

00:22:41.000 They're very performative, screaming and yelling.

00:22:44.000 We're going to do this.

00:22:46.000 What do you want us to do?

00:22:47.000 That's their jurisdiction.

00:22:49.000 It's outrage farming. 0.98

00:22:51.000 Outrage farming.

00:22:52.000 I like that.

00:22:52.000 You're outrage farming.

00:22:53.000 Imagine going to that length, though.

00:22:55.000 You're just like, you know what?

00:22:56.000 I really didn't like anything you said.

00:22:59.000 And you have no right.

00:23:01.000 Like, who's taking the task?

00:23:02.000 Losers.

00:23:05.000 It's either people.

00:23:06.000 No, but it's people that are trying to farm for attention.

00:23:09.000 They're trying to get extra attention.

00:23:11.000 Or it's people that just aren't that good.

00:23:14.000 They're not that smart.

00:23:17.000 When's the last time you engaged with anyone online that was like, Rogan, you're this or you're that?

00:23:25.000 This has been it a long time.

00:23:26.000 Long time, right?

00:23:28.000 Long time.

00:23:29.000 But up until that, up until that time.

00:23:31.000 Bro, I watch fucking Louis J. Gomez do it every day.

00:23:34.000 I'm like, Louis, what are you doing?

00:23:37.000 What are you doing, you psycho?

00:23:38.000 Stop fucking arguing with people online and calling them losers.

00:23:42.000 Yeah, no.

00:23:43.000 And comparing your life to theirs.

00:23:44.000 Like, don't do it.

00:23:46.000 Because you don't know what you're dealing with.

00:23:47.000 You have no clue what you're dealing with.

00:23:49.000 Not only that, it's like it's a bad frequency to get your brain caught up in.

00:23:53.000 There's so many other things to think about.

00:23:55.000 Correct.

00:23:55.000 There's so much going on in the world.

00:23:57.000 There's so many interesting things in life.

00:23:59.000 And the problem with social media algorithms and any kind of algorithm that you get sucked into is it funnels you into this way.

00:24:09.000 This is what the information that you're getting most of the time.

00:24:12.000 You're getting a lot of bad information, a lot of outrage farming.

00:24:16.000 And your frequencies, like the way your brain thinks, funnels down that pathway and you kind of lose control of it instead of having access to all the wonderful things in the world.

00:24:26.000 There's a lot of amazing, fascinating, curiosity-driven people out there that are, you know, making videos about all kinds of stuff.

00:24:35.000 And you could instead pay attention to that stuff.

00:24:38.000 Well, that's trapped.

00:24:41.000 I used to say that even just about news.

00:24:43.000 I remember being a kid, and if you look at every newspaper, and you watch all the headlines for the news, everything is I would sit there and go, okay, something bad happened down here in Brooklyn.

00:24:55.000 Something why, why do you spend every page or every headline of something negative?

00:25:01.000 You had eight to ten million people living in this vicinity.

00:25:05.000 Why do you harp on just propaganda and looking at it?

00:25:08.000 Because they're trying to make money.

00:25:10.000 And it's really simple.

00:25:11.000 It's really simple.

00:25:12.000 All these major newspapers are struggling, all of them, badly.

00:25:16.000 And the only way to get attention is clickbait now because most of the stories that you get are online.

00:25:22.000 Very few people are buying physical newspapers anymore.

00:25:24.000 No more.

00:25:25.000 Yeah.

00:25:25.000 They're dead.

00:25:26.000 Not only that, during COVID, I think they kind of nuked all of their credibility.

00:25:32.000 There's a lot of people that just feel like they're all bullshit artists now.

00:25:35.000 It was an incredible exposing of all information during COVID.

00:25:40.000 What is this?

00:25:40.000 They say this video is him.

00:25:42.000 He sent this to women.

00:25:44.000 From detention?

00:25:45.000 From prison.

00:25:47.000 All right, let's see.

00:25:50.000 It's weird.

00:25:51.000 I had to borrow the scotch tape to get the pictures on the wall.

00:25:56.000 Okay.

00:25:59.000 Why do you have to see that thing over his face?

00:26:01.000 I'm pretending I'm talking to Darren.

00:26:04.000 Hi, Darren.

00:26:06.000 Are you guys having a good time?

00:26:08.000 You can see I have a little sore on my face that I got from some black guy trying to kiss me. 1.00

00:26:12.000 It's really disgusting.

00:26:15.000 Oh, it's really, oh.

00:26:18.000 Anyway, I have pictures up on the wall.

00:26:20.000 I had to borrow the scotch tape to get the pictures on the wall.

00:26:24.000 I'll talk to you guys later.

00:26:26.000 Bye.

00:26:27.000 Okay, so that's him in detention.

00:26:29.000 He said somebody tried to kiss him.

00:26:32.000 He seems pretty calm, but he almost got raped.

00:26:34.000 Dude, it's pre-production.

00:26:37.000 All right, so listen, just come in the room and say that somebody tried to kiss you.

00:26:42.000 You got to be into it.

00:26:42.000 Like, that's take number 12.

00:26:44.000 Like, God damn it, Jeffrey.

00:26:46.000 God damn it, Jit. 1.00

00:26:47.000 Do you need a Coke?

00:26:48.000 I need you mostly.

00:26:48.000 Do you need a wine?

00:26:49.000 You're stressed out.

00:26:50.000 You don't seem like a guy in jail.

00:26:52.000 A guy who hasn't been sleeping well.

00:26:53.000 He seems pretty well rested.

00:26:54.000 So, you know, my whole life is bad right now.

00:26:58.000 Some guy tried to kiss me.

00:26:58.000 They're bringing me in.

00:26:59.000 It's kind of a bummer.

00:27:01.000 What?

00:27:01.000 Cut!

00:27:02.000 That wasn't good?

00:27:03.000 All right.

00:27:04.000 All right, do it right now.

00:27:05.000 All right, lighting good.

00:27:06.000 Here we go.

00:27:07.000 Fuck out of here.

00:27:07.000 The best intelligence organizations that can overthrow foreign governments would probably have a plan if they wanted to get the guy out and pretend that somebody else died in his place.

00:27:20.000 It's been from the beginning of time, no?

00:27:23.000 From the beginning of time.

00:27:23.000 Yeah.

00:27:24.000 From the beginning of time.

00:27:25.000 Well, especially with modern stuff, because you can, with modern masks, like, remember the tall Biden?

00:27:33.000 There's not a chance in hell that was Biden.

00:27:36.000 I feel so redeemed.

00:27:38.000 My wife used to get so mad at me. 1.00

00:27:41.000 So mad at me.

00:27:42.000 My kids would get so mad at me.

00:27:44.000 And I would say it everywhere.

00:27:46.000 I'd say it on stage.

00:27:46.000 I'd say it on social media.

00:27:47.000 I go, I don't care what you say.

00:27:50.000 That is not Joe Biden.

00:27:52.000 You know, there was also that in the files, too.

00:27:53.000 They were talking about the budget.

00:27:54.000 Call me crazy.

00:27:55.000 And now all of a sudden they're like, oh, no, he was executed.

00:27:59.000 Isn't that what they said?

00:28:01.000 Executed?

00:28:02.000 That seems sus.

00:28:04.000 Bro, I went down there.

00:28:05.000 There's a lot of those emails are just emails, right?

00:28:09.000 First of all, Epstein is dealing with prostitutes, people that are willing to get prostitutes.

00:28:15.000 He's dealing with a lot of criminals and weirdos.

00:28:17.000 And a lot of those people are probably full of shit, right?

00:28:20.000 So just because somebody writes something in an email doesn't mean it's a fact.

00:28:24.000 However, when you see the video of Tall Biden, pull out Tall Biden.

00:28:29.000 Come on, man.

00:28:30.000 He grew.

00:28:31.000 He grew and then he went back.

00:28:33.000 They might have put him on some shit and then he shrunk back down again.

00:28:37.000 And his eye color would change.

00:28:41.000 Yes, that one.

00:28:42.000 Like, look at that difference.

00:28:44.000 He's like 6'9.

00:28:45.000 Look at it.

00:28:46.000 That's a robot.

00:28:47.000 Look, send out the robot.

00:28:48.000 You got a video of him walking out there because when he walked, look how long his fucking legs are.

00:28:53.000 Look how tall he is.

00:28:54.000 This is absolutely insane.

00:28:56.000 Wait, who's watching this going, yeah, no, that's the same guy?

00:28:59.000 Not only is he taller, but he moves better.

00:29:03.000 He's more relaxed when he moves.

00:29:05.000 It was.

00:29:07.000 It's like a guy doing an impression of Joe Biden.

00:29:10.000 Yes, look at his.

00:29:12.000 But look how long this guy's legs are. 0.99

00:29:14.000 This is what's crazy.

00:29:16.000 Rewind that again, please.

00:29:20.000 Here it is.

00:29:20.000 It's good.

00:29:21.000 It's starting from the beginning.

00:29:22.000 But it's good.

00:29:23.000 It's right there.

00:29:24.000 It's good.

00:29:24.000 Just play it.

00:29:25.000 So here's when he walks out.

00:29:27.000 Look at how long his legs.

00:29:29.000 This guy's a basketball player.

00:29:31.000 He can dunk.

00:29:32.000 He's how tall he is.

00:29:33.000 First president can dunk.

00:29:35.000 I mean, just stop.

00:29:36.000 Pause it right there, please.

00:29:37.000 Right there.

00:29:37.000 Pause it.

00:29:38.000 Just the physical frame.

00:29:38.000 Pause it.

00:29:40.000 Yep.

00:29:40.000 When you look at the length of his legs, that's extraordinary.

00:29:44.000 That's not like Jeffrey Epstein's prostate with testicles.

00:29:47.000 No, these whole different.

00:29:48.000 That is a tall man.

00:29:51.000 Like, there's no way that's a short man.

00:29:54.000 There's no way that's a normal.

00:29:56.000 Like, what was how tall was Joe Biden, supposedly?

00:29:59.000 Six feet?

00:30:00.000 Six' one, maybe?

00:30:02.000 How tall was he supposed to be?

00:30:03.000 The real Joe Biden.

00:30:06.000 Tall was the pre-2019.

00:30:09.000 I said was like he's dead.

00:30:11.000 I'm saying he's dead.

00:30:12.000 I'm saying he's long gone, wherever he is.

00:30:14.000 Six feet.

00:30:15.000 I'm putting it.

00:30:15.000 Okay.

00:30:16.000 Six feet tall.

00:30:16.000 Go back again.

00:30:17.000 Okay, six feet is like, you know, on the tall-ish side.

00:30:21.000 That guy's taller than six feet.

00:30:24.000 That is a tall man.

00:30:26.000 Look at the proportions from his legs to the width of his shoulders, the length of his legs.

00:30:32.000 That's a very tall man.

00:30:34.000 Who's the casting director for this?

00:30:36.000 I mean, just being charitable, that's a three inches taller man at least.

00:30:40.000 Maybe the other Joe Biden, you know, got sick that day or his wife died.

00:30:45.000 That actor died.

00:30:46.000 And they're like, we need another Joe Biden quick.

00:30:49.000 And then this one showed up like, oh, my God.

00:30:51.000 Just forget it.

00:30:52.000 People believe everything.

00:30:53.000 Send him out.

00:30:54.000 If you have a guy who's the president and he's known to be of poor health, there's probably going to be times where he's supposed to make a public appearance.

00:31:01.000 It's not that important, but it's important to just show his face.

00:31:04.000 Well, you got to keep him in a hospital bed somewhere.

00:31:07.000 So you get a guy, you put the mask on him.

00:31:09.000 Did you ever see the walk?

00:31:12.000 The walk?

00:31:13.000 Yeah, his shuffle.

00:31:14.000 That guy doesn't walk like that.

00:31:15.000 It's a robot.

00:31:16.000 That walks like an athlete.

00:31:17.000 It's a robot.

00:31:18.000 Wait a minute.

00:31:19.000 He looked like a robot.

00:31:19.000 What?

00:31:20.000 No, he looks like a guy with bad knees and a bad back.

00:31:24.000 Bad back?

00:31:25.000 You think it's a robot?

00:31:27.000 I don't know what it is.

00:31:27.000 I'm taking.

00:31:29.000 No, it's an old man who can't walk good. 1.00

00:31:31.000 I'm putting my chips in.

00:31:33.000 Do you think you can program a robot to walk like an old man? 0.99

00:31:36.000 It didn't look like robots are not.

00:31:38.000 Stop the video.

00:31:39.000 Jim, the robots are not that good yet.

00:31:41.000 Trust me.

00:31:42.000 Oh, we need friends with Elon.

00:31:43.000 The robots, they're good, but they're not.

00:31:46.000 They look like robots.

00:31:47.000 They don't look like humans yet.

00:31:49.000 You put a little suit and jacket on him, put him up, and you just videotape for three seconds.

00:31:55.000 No, why would you?

00:31:56.000 Three seconds.

00:31:56.000 It's a guy.

00:31:57.000 All right.

00:31:58.000 This one's a guy.

00:31:58.000 No, I agree.

00:31:59.000 But there's other ones from like, what is this one, Jamie?

00:32:02.000 Same one?

00:32:03.000 Yeah.

00:32:03.000 That's the same one.

00:32:03.000 That's a better version of it.

00:32:04.000 I was just replying it.

00:32:06.000 No, that's not a robot.

00:32:06.000 Okay.

00:32:08.000 There's ones where he's walking on the lawn and his legs.

00:32:11.000 Like, what does he do with his legs?

00:32:13.000 Jim, like, neurologists have looked at this.

00:32:13.000 It's crazy looking.

00:32:16.000 He walks like a guy with dementia.

00:32:18.000 That's how they walk.

00:32:19.000 My dad had dementia.

00:32:21.000 He didn't walk anything like that.

00:32:23.000 Not all people with dementia walk like that, but it's typical of the way people walk when they don't have control of their body anymore.

00:32:28.000 Like he fell down a lot.

00:32:30.000 Like it's very odd.

00:32:31.000 The bicycle went down.

00:32:32.000 I got it.

00:32:33.000 It's a lot of things.

00:32:34.000 He'd fall down walking upstairs.

00:32:36.000 Remember?

00:32:36.000 Yeah, I remember.

00:32:37.000 Three times.

00:32:38.000 I remember.

00:32:40.000 You think it's a robot?

00:32:41.000 I didn't say it's a 100% robot.

00:32:44.000 I'm saying I will put my chips in.

00:32:47.000 I'm at the poker table.

00:32:49.000 And they're like, you're really going in all in that that was not Joe Biden.

00:32:53.000 I'm going all in.

00:32:55.000 That's not Joe Biden.

00:32:56.000 I'm never.

00:32:57.000 Never was.

00:32:58.000 From 2020 on, it never was.

00:32:58.000 Okay.

00:33:00.000 I think this is a productive line of conversation.

00:33:03.000 This is me.

00:33:04.000 I get it.

00:33:05.000 I hear watch this joke.

00:33:06.000 Yeah, watch this one.

00:33:08.000 Yeah.

00:33:08.000 But he's walking in sand, and he's old as fuck, dude.

00:33:13.000 He's walking inside.

00:33:14.000 If I walk in sand and I'm drunk, I look just like that.

00:33:14.000 I get it.

00:33:19.000 He's got a lot of blood thinners there.

00:33:21.000 Maybe they got to his head.

00:33:22.000 I don't know.

00:33:23.000 He's got a stint.

00:33:24.000 I just, Jamie, I'm going to send you something.

00:33:26.000 This is state of the art right now when it comes to robots.

00:33:30.000 And it's pretty fucking good, man.

00:33:32.000 Pretty fucking good.

00:33:33.000 But it's not that.

00:33:37.000 These are robots that can actually do martial arts.

00:33:39.000 It's very impressive.

00:33:40.000 I feel like I just saw something like this.

00:33:42.000 It was frightening.

00:33:42.000 It's from China.

00:33:43.000 Yeah, it's from China.

00:33:44.000 So go full screen on this.

00:33:46.000 This is really interesting.

00:33:46.000 So you got these kids.

00:33:47.000 They get out there and these robots do martial arts with them.

00:33:54.000 Like, look at this.

00:33:55.000 It's really wild, man.

00:33:59.000 I mean, it's pretty human movements.

00:34:02.000 If they had suit and ties on, they can pass for a president.

00:34:06.000 Not yet.

00:34:08.000 But look at these things.

00:34:08.000 Not yet.

00:34:09.000 They can do backflips.

00:34:10.000 Like, this is crazy.

00:34:11.000 They do wheel kicks.

00:34:14.000 It's really nuts, man.

00:34:14.000 Come on.

00:34:16.000 So just imagine these things with fucking ARs just running into buildings, gunning people down.

00:34:22.000 Because that's what's coming.

00:34:23.000 Bro, there's a place.

00:34:24.000 They're going to be bulletproof.

00:34:26.000 They're going to have night vision, heat vision, insane hearing.

00:34:31.000 There's a place in Florida, bro, that have the out in the Everglades.

00:34:35.000 And it's like this farmland.

00:34:37.000 You never see anyone there, but they have the mechanical robot dogs patrolling everywhere and spraying the fields.

00:34:46.000 The dogs spray the fields.

00:34:48.000 There's like all different types of machines that come up that will spray the field.

00:34:52.000 And they have these dogs that patrol everywhere.

00:34:54.000 It's wild.

00:34:55.000 You could buy one.

00:34:55.000 I never saw any of them.

00:34:56.000 You can buy them now?

00:34:57.000 Yeah, you can buy those robots.

00:34:59.000 Les was telling me about it.

00:35:01.000 I think I want one.

00:35:02.000 Lex Friedman, he actually works with robotics.

00:35:06.000 Like he was an artificial intelligence engineer before he ever started doing podcasts.

00:35:15.000 You're like the movie The Fifth Element when the chick came and she got all the information. 0.68

00:35:21.000 Like who's I'm always fascinated.

00:35:24.000 You have so much information, like brilliant insight information.

00:35:30.000 Who's left on your list where you're like, I got a, I want to look at, I need to speak with so-and-so.

00:35:37.000 Oh, there's a ton of people.

00:35:38.000 There's always new, you know, like I get a list of every week, multiple days a week, I get a list of potential guests.

00:35:47.000 And so I go over the list and a lot of it is scientists.

00:35:51.000 A lot of it is like people that are doing groundbreaking research on like neurodevelopment, genetics.

00:36:01.000 There's a lot of them that come up that are cosmologists that are working on, you know, just bizarre theories.

00:36:11.000 There's always someone that's working on some, you know, like very high level of some esoteric line of, you know, some kind of discipline that I've got very little information about.

00:36:24.000 There's always interesting people.

00:36:27.000 That blows my mind.

00:36:29.000 It blows my mind.

00:36:30.000 I try talking to anyone, even some of the words, I'm not educated very well.

00:36:35.000 They start saying certain words, and I'm just, I'm already.

00:36:38.000 I'm not formally educated very well.

00:36:40.000 I mean, I only went to college for three years and I was barely paying attention.

00:36:43.000 I never paid attention.

00:36:44.000 I was only going to college so that people didn't think I was a loser.

00:36:48.000 Yeah, I was doing it whilst fighting, and then I was doing it for a little bit while still doing stand-up, but I was only doing it so that no one thought I was a loser.

00:36:54.000 Really?

00:36:54.000 Yeah.

00:36:55.000 Is that more, was that like a home thing?

00:36:57.000 No, it was where I grew up.

00:36:57.000 Like money?

00:36:59.000 You know, everybody was going to college.

00:37:01.000 I went to school at a really good high school, Newton South in Massachusetts.

00:37:06.000 And a lot of the kids were, you know, real ambitious and wanted to go to college and get degrees.

00:37:11.000 And I did not want to have a job.

00:37:13.000 I was like, what am I doing?

00:37:15.000 I was like very feral.

00:37:18.000 And at the time, all I wanted to do was compete.

00:37:20.000 I was just doing martial arts tournaments all the time.

00:37:22.000 And there was no money in that.

00:37:25.000 So I was like, what's my career going to be?

00:37:27.000 Like, what am I doing?

00:37:28.000 So this is weird period.

00:37:30.000 So I said, let me just go to college so that no one thinks I'm a loser.

00:37:33.000 So I took a year off school.

00:37:35.000 So from graduated at 17.

00:37:38.000 So for the next year, I didn't go to school at all.

00:37:42.000 I just trained.

00:37:43.000 I don't know the story.

00:37:44.000 So when did you go?

00:37:46.000 I'm going to start doing stand-up.

00:37:48.000 When I was 21.

00:37:50.000 Wow.

00:37:51.000 And did you have that desire before then?

00:37:54.000 Not really.

00:37:55.000 No, I was a fan of stand-up.

00:37:56.000 I love stand-up.

00:37:57.000 I was talked into doing it by my friend Steve.

00:37:59.000 It's a good buddy of mine, Steve Graham.

00:38:02.000 Because I would make people laugh in the locker room.

00:38:04.000 It was like, he was a guy I did Taekwondo with.

00:38:06.000 And he was like, another good friend, Ed Shorter.

00:38:09.000 Same thing.

00:38:10.000 Ed and Steve were two guys who I was real tight with that, you know, I would make fun of everybody.

00:38:15.000 And just, we were always just joking around.

00:38:17.000 And I wanted a lot of attention.

00:38:17.000 Right.

00:38:19.000 I was young.

00:38:21.000 Yeah, I did.

00:38:22.000 So that was, that's how.

00:38:23.000 And then I went to an open mic night and I realized, oh, these people are all, they suck.

00:38:27.000 They're beginners.

00:38:28.000 Like, oh, you could be a beginner.

00:38:30.000 And then I thought about it just like martial arts.

00:38:32.000 If you just work at it, you can get better at it.

00:38:34.000 You know, so if you're just like a little bit funny, if you could just kind of figure out what it is about you.

00:38:39.000 I was like, this is fascinating.

00:38:40.000 It was like a whole new puzzle.

00:38:42.000 But I didn't know if I could ever do it for a living.

00:38:44.000 I was really so confused when I was 21 because I had really kind of decided to stop fighting.

00:38:50.000 And I was still doing it a little bit, but I had like one foot in and one foot out, which is not good.

00:38:55.000 And then I didn't have any prospects.

00:38:58.000 Like, what am I going to do?

00:38:59.000 I'm already 21.

00:39:01.000 Like, I should have already graduated from college by now or be close or getting ready to work on a master's.

00:39:07.000 I should be doing something like a lot of the people that I went to high school with, or I should have a trade like a lot of my buddies that went into carpentry or electricity.

00:39:15.000 You know, there's, I didn't have a career other than teaching.

00:39:19.000 So within a couple years, you start, because you and I both fairly quickly started getting in good positions.

00:39:30.000 Because if you were 21, I'm going to say by 25, like 26, you're on hardball.

00:39:38.000 Wow.

00:39:38.000 Yeah.

00:39:39.000 Yeah.

00:39:40.000 Yeah, we were really young.

00:39:41.000 That's crazy.

00:39:42.000 That's crazy lucky.

00:39:43.000 How fast that happened.

00:39:44.000 Yeah, it happened stupid fast.

00:39:46.000 It had a stupid fast and it was stupid lucky because I didn't have any aspirations to ever be on TV.

00:39:52.000 There was no part of me that wanted to be an actor on TV.

00:39:55.000 It was never an ambition at all, which probably helped me because when I went in and talked to the people and did auditions and shit, it wasn't like, oh my God, this is my dream.

00:39:55.000 Zero.

00:40:07.000 It was like, so what do you guys want me to do?

00:40:09.000 Yeah, I could play a baseball player.

00:40:09.000 Okay.

00:40:11.000 And they just loved the fact that I was, you know, I had a background in athletics.

00:40:11.000 Okay.

00:40:16.000 I knew a lot about you also would murder like none other at the laugh factory.

00:40:25.000 You would go up, and I remember the Disney executives because that's who did that.

00:40:31.000 I remember them sitting in the back watching you.

00:40:34.000 You did the lions, whatever, the tigers mating, and it would just the place would lose their shit.

00:40:47.000 It was captivating watching.

00:40:49.000 It was howling funny.

00:40:51.000 And I'll never forget just looking at the executives.

00:40:54.000 And I don't remember their name.

00:40:56.000 I just remember he had a mustache.

00:40:58.000 He had a dark mustache, dark hair.

00:40:59.000 He's from Colorado.

00:41:01.000 He was like, oh, I got Joe is just so.

00:41:05.000 God damn, I can't take it.

00:41:08.000 So you, I mean, wow, that's pretty awesome in that short period of time.

00:41:13.000 I wish I had, no, actually, I won't say I wish I had your mentality then.

00:41:18.000 I have it now.

00:41:20.000 Meaning, back then I had the desire, like, ah, I want, I want, I'm going to start buying satin clothes.

00:41:30.000 I'm going to start getting nice clothes.

00:41:34.000 I wanted satin the first time I went out there.

00:41:36.000 I bought satin blue pants and satin blue.

00:41:40.000 I was like, I'm going to be in Hollywood.

00:41:41.000 It was so retarded. 1.00

00:41:43.000 So retarded. 1.00

00:41:45.000 Well, but you had this whole other.

00:41:46.000 I remember seeing you and you were like, we were at some hotel and you were just so you're like, yeah, I'm going to go play pool and work out.

00:41:57.000 You wanted, you want to, I'm like, what?

00:41:59.000 No, I'm looking for rock stars and actors on Melrose.

00:42:04.000 And you're like, yeah, well, I'm not doing that.

00:42:06.000 I'm going to the gym and I'm working.

00:42:07.000 I'm like, you're going to miss out.

00:42:13.000 But I really admired, I loved and I admired that about you so much.

00:42:20.000 Oh, thanks.

00:42:21.000 But I was never interested in like Hollywood stuff.

00:42:23.000 It just was not that interesting to me to be around a bunch of famous people and feel weird.

00:42:28.000 I was like, I'd just rather be around normal people.

00:42:30.000 I'd rather play pool.

00:42:31.000 I'd rather go to the gym.

00:42:32.000 I was like that until I was around famous people.

00:42:36.000 And they were like, this is uncomfortable.

00:42:41.000 I want to go home.

00:42:42.000 You want to go back home?

00:42:44.000 Oh, I tried to move back to New York.

00:42:45.000 I would have moved back to New York, except I had a lease.

00:42:48.000 I had a lease on an apartment.

00:42:49.000 When hardball got canceled, I was ready to go back to New York.

00:42:51.000 I was like, fuck this place.

00:42:52.000 This is too uncomfortable for me.

00:42:54.000 And again, I never had any aspirations to be famous.

00:42:57.000 I definitely didn't have any aspirations to act.

00:43:00.000 It was just money.

00:43:01.000 They gave me a lot of money to be on a sitcom.

00:43:03.000 And I was like, okay.

00:43:05.000 I just couldn't believe how much money you could get in a week.

00:43:08.000 Like, this is crazy.

00:43:09.000 It was crazy.

00:43:10.000 Yeah.

00:43:10.000 It was like more money than I made in a year and I could make it in a week.

00:43:13.000 I was like, this is nuts.

00:43:14.000 Especially because I went from broke to being on a sitcom.

00:43:18.000 Yeah.

00:43:19.000 I remember those same things.

00:43:21.000 Like, you're not making any money.

00:43:22.000 And then all of a sudden, you're only $25,000 to $50,000 a week.

00:43:27.000 You just come in camera block here and there, and you don't even have to be the star.

00:43:30.000 It was bananas.

00:43:31.000 What?

00:43:32.000 But then when I got on news radio, I was like, oh, this is a whole different kind of a thing.

00:43:36.000 Like, this is a really good show with really good writing and really good actors.

00:43:40.000 I was like, this is fun.

00:43:41.000 Like, that I enjoyed a lot.

00:43:44.000 But it's the world of acting is long days and it's not what I like to do the most.

00:43:53.000 So it was like, you know, it's great, but you can get sucked into that velvet prison.

00:43:58.000 And then, you know, you'd be like, I'd be talking to my friends.

00:44:01.000 I'd be like, yeah, I just did a week in Florida.

00:44:03.000 It was fucking awesome.

00:44:05.000 Went in there on Wednesday.

00:44:06.000 And I was realizing like, these guys are selling out on the road and they're traveling all the time.

00:44:11.000 They're having all this fun.

00:44:12.000 I'm like, they're doing what I wanted to do, which was like stand up like on the road.

00:44:17.000 But I was only doing like small sets in town.

00:44:20.000 I was only doing like 15 minutes at the laugh factory, 15 minutes at the store.

00:44:24.000 You know, it's like the real comedy was like headlining, doing an hour, really developing your act.

00:44:30.000 Right.

00:44:31.000 And it was like, I enjoyed doing news radio, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I enjoyed being around comics, doing sets, being at the clubs, laughing all the time.

00:44:41.000 It's like a different kind of people.

00:44:44.000 The actor people were all worried about what the other actor people were doing.

00:44:48.000 They were all worried about like what rating we were, what number we were in the ratings.

00:44:55.000 Correct.

00:44:56.000 Yes.

00:44:56.000 And that's all they would talk about.

00:44:58.000 Dude, we were at a table once and they were all bitching about how, you know, we were on, you know, whatever night we were on.

00:45:04.000 We moved like nine times over five years.

00:45:07.000 And back then there was no internet.

00:45:08.000 So you couldn't tell people that you're not on Monday night anymore.

00:45:11.000 You're not on whatever it was.

00:45:13.000 And so they were all bitching and getting pissed because Sex in the City was on this time slot and the single guy was in this time slot. 0.99

00:45:20.000 And if we were there, we'd be number two or whatever.

00:45:23.000 And I was like, guys, last time I checked, we're on TV.

00:45:23.000 Right.

00:45:28.000 Yeah.

00:45:28.000 Like, this is a dream.

00:45:30.000 Yeah, we're not number one, but we have a funny show and we're on TV.

00:45:33.000 Just fucking enjoy the ride.

00:45:35.000 Yeah.

00:45:35.000 And it was a great show.

00:45:37.000 It was a lot of fun.

00:45:38.000 It did well.

00:45:38.000 It was a great show.

00:45:39.000 But yeah, that world just never ends.

00:45:41.000 But it was just so lucky to get it so quick.

00:45:45.000 You know, I was on news radio six years into doing stand-up.

00:45:48.000 Yeah.

00:45:49.000 And it didn't make any sense to me.

00:45:50.000 But it's also why I wasn't nervous about it.

00:45:52.000 It was like, it seemed so normal to me.

00:45:55.000 Like, okay, this is a job I'm doing.

00:45:57.000 But it was because I didn't want to do it.

00:45:59.000 Not that I didn't want to do it, but because it wasn't like my ultimate dream.

00:46:04.000 Well, that's, that made me laugh.

00:46:06.000 I saw you years later.

00:46:07.000 And I don't know if it was Fear Factor or whatever.

00:46:13.000 And someone snarkily, like in a snarky way, were like, why would you take this?

00:46:19.000 And you're like, because it paid me fucking retarded money. 0.93

00:46:22.000 They offered fucking retarded money. 1.00

00:46:24.000 Like, you wouldn't do this for whatever the episode.

00:46:26.000 And I just, it made me laugh.

00:46:27.000 So it's just, you gave the real answer.

00:46:31.000 If I offered you whatever program, I'm going to offer you, I don't know, 20 million for two years, you're going to go, I'm not doing that.

00:46:42.000 That's ridiculous.

00:46:43.000 Why would I use, why would I leave my sanitation job to money equals freedom?

00:46:48.000 That's what people need to understand.

00:46:50.000 Like if you can make a pile of money, you get fuck you money.

00:46:54.000 And then the key is don't be chasing fuck your mother and fuck your family and fuck the world money.

00:47:00.000 Correct.

00:47:01.000 Stick with fuck you money.

00:47:03.000 But just make sure you say fuck you.

00:47:06.000 So make sure you don't do things you don't want to do.

00:47:08.000 And so when Fear Factor came along, I initially took it because I thought it was going to be canceled immediately.

00:47:13.000 I was like, it was, I was in a development deal with NBC and they sent me this thing.

00:47:20.000 And I was like, what the fuck is this?

00:47:22.000 They're going to sick dogs on people. 0.99

00:47:23.000 Like I was laughing.

00:47:24.000 I'm pretty sure I was stoned when I first got the pitch.

00:47:27.000 Yeah.

00:47:28.000 And I read it, I go, this is hilarious.

00:47:30.000 And I don't know if my manager even wanted me to do it.

00:47:33.000 I don't remember.

00:47:35.000 I think they probably wanted me to hold out for a sitcom.

00:47:38.000 And I was like, are you fucking kidding me?

00:47:39.000 This is hilarious.

00:47:40.000 Let me meet with them.

00:47:42.000 And they didn't like me at first because I came in and was making fun of it.

00:47:48.000 And they thought it should be scary because this was Fear Factor.

00:47:52.000 Right.

00:47:53.000 And I was just joking.

00:47:54.000 Like, I came into the meeting.

00:47:56.000 I was probably stoned.

00:47:57.000 I came into the meeting and I was just cracking jokes about everything and laughing.

00:48:02.000 And they didn't.

00:48:03.000 But then David Hurwitz, who's a friend of mine, who's one of the producers on the show, he's like, no, Look, the whole world's going to be laughing at us.

00:48:10.000 It's way better if the host is laughing.

00:48:12.000 It's way better.

00:48:12.000 Yes.

00:48:13.000 Yes.

00:48:13.000 Like, let's just trust.

00:48:15.000 Like the lunacy of what lengths these people go to.

00:48:18.000 They were going to go like a sportscaster or something.

00:48:21.000 You know what I mean?

00:48:22.000 Here we are in Fear Factor.

00:48:25.000 Fear is not a factor for you.

00:48:28.000 My ninth.

00:48:29.000 Maggie from Wisconsin is going to get in the tank. 1.00

00:48:33.000 Yeah.

00:48:34.000 That's awesome.

00:48:35.000 So it's just luck.

00:48:35.000 Yeah.

00:48:36.000 A lot of luck, man.

00:48:37.000 A lot of weird luck.

00:48:38.000 I've had a lot of weird luck my whole life.

00:48:41.000 Even coming here is weird luck.

00:48:43.000 Even opening up the club, weird luck.

00:48:45.000 Because a lot of things have to happen.

00:48:45.000 Why do you say that?

00:48:47.000 In order for this club to exist, right?

00:48:50.000 A lot of things have to happen.

00:48:51.000 First of all, the COVID thing has to happen, right?

00:48:54.000 So, and it has to happen in California where they have very restrictive laws and everything gets locked down.

00:48:59.000 And we can't perform for like, I think the store was shut for a year and a half, man.

00:49:04.000 Yeah.

00:49:04.000 Are you serious?

00:49:05.000 California was nuts with COVID.

00:49:08.000 But over here, like almost immediately, you could do shows.

00:49:13.000 Like we were doing the Cap City was doing shows and they had people separated before they went under.

00:49:18.000 They just had the tables moved like six feet apart, which was retarded. 1.00

00:49:22.000 It didn't mean anything.

00:49:23.000 And then when we started doing shows at the Vulcan, that was in like November of 2020.

00:49:28.000 So that was pretty soon after, you know, the rest of the world was still completely, like, California and New York were still completely restrictive, and Texas was pretty wide open.

00:49:41.000 And so I have to have the kind of money that Spotify gave me.

00:49:46.000 Yeah.

00:49:47.000 And then I have to be so dumb that I'm in the middle of this giant deal.

00:49:50.000 I'm like, I'm just going to move to Texas, which they were like, what are you doing?

00:49:54.000 Like, you need to be in LA.

00:49:55.000 That's where your studio is.

00:49:56.000 That's where the guests are.

00:49:58.000 And I was like, I'm flying at least two or three people a week out to Los Angeles.

00:50:04.000 I bet I could get them to fly to Texas.

00:50:07.000 But it was a dumb gamble.

00:50:09.000 It's like, it's not a smart move.

00:50:11.000 So it has to be like the Spotify money.

00:50:14.000 It has to be everything closed down.

00:50:15.000 And then it has to be the store closed down because the store closed down allowed me to get guys like Adam Egot and, you know, and from the store.

00:50:24.000 Yeah.

00:50:24.000 All the people that worked at the store came and worked for me.

00:50:26.000 That's like one of the big secrets.

00:50:28.000 Jody, the managers, like a lot of the people that are at the mothership came from the store and they were unemployed.

00:50:36.000 Yeah, but I wouldn't take it.

00:50:37.000 I wouldn't.

00:50:38.000 I like your approach.

00:50:39.000 Is it luck?

00:50:40.000 No, but it has to be some luck.

00:50:43.000 Otherwise, it doesn't happen.

00:50:44.000 Because if there's no luck, then if there's no COVID lockdown, then all these comics aren't willing to move here.

00:50:49.000 Correct.

00:50:50.000 Tony Henchcliffe, Tom Seguro, Christina Pazitsky, Brian Simpson.

00:50:56.000 Everybody moved here.

00:50:58.000 Right.

00:50:58.000 So the only reason why anybody moved here is because California's locked down.

00:51:02.000 If the store was hopping, they would be like, wow, they wouldn't leave here.

00:51:05.000 Why am I coming?

00:51:05.000 Why would I go here?

00:51:06.000 Yeah.

00:51:06.000 So it had to be like a place where you could go.

00:51:10.000 And then you have to have the resources to do something like that.

00:51:13.000 So that has to be like the Spotify thing.

00:51:16.000 It's like so many things have to fall into place where it's that kind of a gamble makes sense.

00:51:23.000 Yeah.

00:51:23.000 It's a lot of luck, man.

00:51:25.000 It's a lot of luck, but it's also a lot of decision making and a lot of you, You're very thoughtful and the walk that you walk creates an energy and it's very powerful.

00:51:43.000 It's very inspiring.

00:51:45.000 And I do believe in that stuff.

00:51:47.000 Like the way you've walked most of the life that I've known you has been, you're probably you inspired me so much years ago, years and years ago.

00:51:58.000 You came on my radio show and you literally started talking and you called in.

00:52:03.000 And I remember I just told everyone, just be quiet.

00:52:06.000 Just be quiet and let him go.

00:52:08.000 And just I knew at that moment you were going to be changing like culture, if that makes sense.

00:52:18.000 You went into this, you went into this deep conversation about we are shifting in humanity.

00:52:26.000 And basically you said, we're either going to live for truth or you're going to be a liar, like leech type thing.

00:52:38.000 It was very powerful.

00:52:39.000 And I think eventually I was like, you know, put Pink Floyd behind it, put that on somehow.

00:52:44.000 How are you going to get it?

00:52:45.000 That's a clip of a bad thing.

00:52:46.000 It is one of the most, because I wanted the world to hear what you said.

00:52:50.000 It was such a, like no other pastor could say, no one could say it the way you said it.

00:52:57.000 So, yes, it is all luck, but I do believe that presence that you put out and that energy, it's trusted and it's a force that opens doors without even you knowing it because it is all for the good in my belief.

00:53:17.000 But anyway, that's my little kind of thing.

00:53:21.000 Well, you inspired me too, dude, because when we first started working together, one of the worst times I ever bombed, ever, was I was headlining when I really shouldn't have been headlining.

00:53:30.000 I really didn't have an hour.

00:53:32.000 And you and I did a weekend together somewhere like West Nyack, New York or something like that.

00:53:36.000 Somewhere yucky, like a holiday in thing.

00:53:39.000 But I did okay every show except the late show Saturday night.

00:53:45.000 You fucking murdered.

00:53:48.000 You murdered.

00:53:48.000 I do.

00:53:50.000 And I remember being so nervous.

00:53:52.000 I was so nervous.

00:53:53.000 And I went on stage nervous and I just ate a dick.

00:53:56.000 And I remember it was like one of the worst bombings I've ever had in my life.

00:53:59.000 And I remember thinking at the time, boy, I got to correct something.

00:54:02.000 First of all, I can never go on stage that nervous again.

00:54:05.000 I was like, what was wrong?

00:54:06.000 What was wrong was instead of laughing at you and going on stage having a good time, I was nervous about my own performance, which is like a self-defeating mentality.

00:54:17.000 Yeah.

00:54:18.000 And I had to realize that, which is also one of the reasons, like, it really, my stand-up bumped up a lot after that weekend.

00:54:24.000 It really did because I really worked on it hard because the bombing was bad.

00:54:28.000 Bombing's bad.

00:54:29.000 But this was a bad one.

00:54:30.000 I was supposed to be 45.

00:54:31.000 I bailed at 35.

00:54:32.000 I got in trouble.

00:54:34.000 I was eating dick.

00:54:35.000 Dude, I was eating dick.

00:54:36.000 It was horrible.

00:54:37.000 But the same thing happened when I would take Joey on the road with me.

00:54:43.000 And the reason why I would take Joey on the road with me is because he was so hard to follow.

00:54:47.000 So I said, okay.

00:54:49.000 I thought of it just like training partner.

00:54:51.000 Like, you don't want to spar with a guy who sucks.

00:54:51.000 Yes.

00:54:53.000 You want to spar with a guy who's better than you so that you could get to his level.

00:54:58.000 Yes.

00:54:59.000 And so with Joey, Joey was so loose and so free and he was so silly.

00:55:04.000 And I was more rigid and I tried to do more setup punchline stuff.

00:55:08.000 But I was, you know, I was only whatever, eight, nine years in, whatever it was.

00:55:12.000 I was still trying to like figure it out.

00:55:15.000 And Joey had a rhythm to him.

00:55:17.000 He's just so loose.

00:55:19.000 And I'm like, this is going to help me.

00:55:21.000 Let me just take this guy on the road with me.

00:55:23.000 First of all, he's the best guy to hang out with.

00:55:25.000 He's so much fun.

00:55:26.000 He seems like I love him to death.

00:55:28.000 I never got to hang out with him.

00:55:29.000 I never hung out with Joey.

00:55:31.000 I've only got to see him on here and some other places I know.

00:55:34.000 He's the best.

00:55:35.000 He's so, everybody, everybody's like, he's so fun.

00:55:39.000 Like, when you're around him, it's all hugs and laughs.

00:55:42.000 And he's the party.

00:55:43.000 You bring Joey anywhere, the parties with Joey.

00:55:46.000 When we'd go to dinner, we'd have as much fun at dinner as we would at the show.

00:55:49.000 Right.

00:55:50.000 He's the entertainment.

00:55:51.000 Well, he's just a great social engineer.

00:55:55.000 Like, he would, like, he would like fucking be the maestro that would get everybody going.

00:56:01.000 We would be laughing.

00:56:03.000 And then we'd go to the show and be having a good time.

00:56:05.000 And I learned to laugh at him because he'd be murdering.

00:56:08.000 And I'd learn to take that momentum of laughing at him and carry it into the energy of my performance.

00:56:14.000 Yes.

00:56:15.000 So it was like it was a good thing because a lot of people want the opposite.

00:56:19.000 They want the guy going on before them to suck so that they look like a hero.

00:56:23.000 Yeah.

00:56:24.000 There's a lot of people out there rocking that fucking sky.

00:56:24.000 No, I know what that is.

00:56:27.000 I like what you said.

00:56:28.000 I like a guy hitting hard.

00:56:29.000 Yeah.

00:56:30.000 And then the nights, like, even I have Brian McKenna opening for me right now.

00:56:34.000 And there's nights.

00:56:35.000 Like I think we're in Louisiana.

00:56:38.000 And I was like, oh, shoot, I got to get up.

00:56:40.000 Like, what is he doing?

00:56:42.000 And that makes me go, oh, all right.

00:56:44.000 I got to stay crystal clear.

00:56:46.000 Like, I've got to bring it to this whole level.

00:56:49.000 He's making me, I love if someone makes me work.

00:56:52.000 Loves well, it's not just that.

00:56:54.000 It's also that the crowd gets their money's worth.

00:56:57.000 Yes.

00:56:57.000 A bunch of people came out to see you.

00:56:58.000 Like, I've gone to see friends that are really good comics that I really love.

00:57:04.000 And then I go to see them and they have an opening act.

00:57:06.000 I'm like, Jesus Christ, I've got to go to the bathroom.

00:57:09.000 I go sit outside for 20 minutes and wait for this to end.

00:57:14.000 That's a bad place to be, whether it's your buddy or not.

00:57:16.000 They do it because they want a light opener.

00:57:20.000 Like, Ron White's open about it.

00:57:22.000 Like, he talks about, you do better than me, you're getting fired.

00:57:29.000 He doesn't give a fuck.

00:57:30.000 But, you know, I love Ron.

00:57:34.000 He's still out here, no?

00:57:36.000 Yeah, he's out here.

00:57:36.000 Yeah, he's at the club all the time.

00:57:37.000 He's there tonight.

00:57:38.000 Okay.

00:57:39.000 Or tomorrow night, rather.

00:57:40.000 Ron's the best.

00:57:41.000 He's the best.

00:57:42.000 He's another reason why I came here because he was already here.

00:57:45.000 Ron moved here before the pandemic.

00:57:47.000 Oh, wow.

00:57:48.000 Yeah, he moved here in, I think, 2018 or 19, somewhere around then.

00:57:54.000 And I was like, he had a place in Beverly Hills that he kept still, so he'd come back and forth.

00:57:59.000 But he was like, I love Austin.

00:58:00.000 You never have to leave if I want to fly anywhere.

00:58:03.000 It's the middle of the country.

00:58:04.000 The people are nice.

00:58:05.000 The food's great.

00:58:06.000 And I was like, can I live there?

00:58:08.000 No.

00:58:09.000 That's what my thought was like, I can't live there.

00:58:11.000 Ron is the type of guy, too, that he doesn't realize how good he is and how popular he is sometimes.

00:58:19.000 He literally, don't ask me why he called me.

00:58:23.000 I have no, oh, I remember it was some bizarre connection.

00:58:27.000 He's like, hey, Jim, I keep getting asking to play in London.

00:58:33.000 And I went, oh, you will murder, murder in London.

00:58:38.000 He's like, I don't know.

00:58:40.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:58:43.000 I'm like, Ron, if you were to play Scotland, England, Ireland, like you, you're going to have a whole new, you're going to murder.

00:58:53.000 He's like, I don't know.

00:58:55.000 Please, I'm begging you, at least just take the gig.

00:58:58.000 Please just take the gig.

00:59:00.000 And this was a couple of years ago.

00:59:02.000 And apparently he did do it.

00:59:04.000 I was like, DJ, he's like, man, I murdered it.

00:59:06.000 Of course you did.

00:59:08.000 Especially though, he's funny.

00:59:10.000 He's very humble, though.

00:59:12.000 Ron is a very humble guy.

00:59:14.000 He's a, you know, he's a great guy.

00:59:14.000 Yeah.

00:59:17.000 He's the best.

00:59:18.000 Well, that's why I like to come here the first time because what I like about here is I reached a point where I have my following.

00:59:27.000 I have my crowd.

00:59:29.000 And if I'm working out stuff, even if it's in an hour, they're going to be patient with me because they like me and they've been on my journey.

00:59:36.000 But if I were to go into a club and do 15 minutes, I better, I bet they're not my, a lot of them don't know me.

00:59:46.000 And I remember the first time I came here, I didn't want to go on stage.

00:59:49.000 I used to go on stage.

00:59:50.000 I'm like, I don't know.

00:59:52.000 I'm like, all right, go on stage.

00:59:53.000 Wow.

00:59:54.000 It was like, okay, yeah, I'm not, wow, seven more minutes.

00:59:59.000 Okay.

00:59:59.000 I didn't even finish my setup yet.

01:00:01.000 This is, this made me, this place made me want to start working harder again and go, hey, man, you got to put the gloves on.

01:00:09.000 Not that I had any lack of confidence of what I put out there for an hour, but those short little 15-minute, when they see everybody, it doesn't matter.

01:00:19.000 It's an even playing field.

01:00:20.000 It's pretty awesome.

01:00:22.000 That was great about the store, too.

01:00:22.000 It was great.

01:00:24.000 Like, you would get a night where you had like seven, eight national headliners in a row.

01:00:29.000 You know, I saw that one, and they don't care after a while.

01:00:33.000 Just bring the funny.

01:00:34.000 I saw someone from a huge sitcom go on stage, place loses their mind.

01:00:43.000 Even I was a little like, oh, wow.

01:00:45.000 Oh, wow.

01:00:47.000 And about they did the shtick of their character, and about five minutes in, they were like, okay, we're done.

01:00:56.000 You tell jokes or you're just going to be the TV guy.

01:00:59.000 And it's like, they don't, they've seen everything.

01:01:02.000 You got to come with the goods.

01:01:03.000 You got to work it.

01:01:04.000 TV guy thing.

01:01:05.000 We used to see that all the time in LA, too.

01:01:07.000 Well, that's what led to Kramer, that meltdown.

01:01:09.000 Oh, that's who it was.

01:01:10.000 Yeah.

01:01:12.000 I didn't want to say it.

01:01:13.000 I didn't want to say it.

01:01:14.000 But he first walked up.

01:01:16.000 I was like, oh, dude, he cramped the mic.

01:01:21.000 And then after about five, seven minutes.

01:01:23.000 Yeah.

01:01:24.000 And this one was at the improv and I'm watching.

01:01:26.000 I'm like, oh, wow.

01:01:28.000 Oh, wow.

01:01:29.000 He don't have material.

01:01:30.000 He's just, wow.

01:01:32.000 They turned on quick.

01:01:32.000 Which is crazy.

01:01:34.000 Imagine thinking that you could do 15 minutes with no material.

01:01:38.000 I just don't understand.

01:01:39.000 Comics make it look easy.

01:01:41.000 You know how many people go, how many people have you met that go, you know what?

01:01:47.000 You inspired?

01:01:48.000 I'm going to start doing stand-up.

01:01:50.000 Okay.

01:01:51.000 Some of them, you're like, please don't.

01:01:52.000 Yeah, like, okay.

01:01:53.000 I still get, I'm starting next.

01:01:55.000 Here's my friend.

01:01:56.000 They'll send me a set of their first set.

01:01:57.000 Like, comedians make it look like we just walk up and just wing it.

01:02:03.000 Well, it's also a guy's used to performing in front of a live audience when he does a sitcom and everybody loves him.

01:02:09.000 And if he could make people laugh for a minute, he thinks he could probably make people laugh for multiple minutes.

01:02:14.000 Right.

01:02:15.000 Just keep it going.

01:02:16.000 Just do the same thing for 15 minutes.

01:02:18.000 And the little side of us are just back then.

01:02:20.000 I root for everyone, but when those guys walk off, you're like, go down right, John.

01:02:26.000 There's nothing more.

01:02:27.000 Well, we don't like anybody that's half stepping, right? 1.00

01:02:29.000 It's like half in, not really doing it.

01:02:32.000 Right.

01:02:33.000 Like, you're just taking up 15 minutes from someone that could be doing it.

01:02:36.000 Correct.

01:02:38.000 I used to.

01:02:39.000 Do you know Neil Brent?

01:02:41.000 Not Neil.

01:02:41.000 Kevin?

01:02:42.000 No, I don't know Kevin very well.

01:02:44.000 I've met him, I'm sure.

01:02:46.000 I remember him doing sets in New York back in the day.

01:02:50.000 Kevin would get so pissed because what's the guitar?

01:02:53.000 He's a famous guitar player.

01:02:55.000 Oh, my God.

01:02:56.000 John Mann.

01:02:57.000 Yes, John.

01:03:00.000 So Kevin would come in.

01:03:02.000 He'd come into the video and be like, he's going up.

01:03:05.000 He's doing fucking 20 minutes.

01:03:08.000 And he sucks.

01:03:11.000 I can't go to Madison Square Garden and go, give me the guitar for 20 minutes.

01:03:15.000 It's my fucking time.

01:03:17.000 Comics would get really edgy.

01:03:19.000 They didn't care who you were.

01:03:21.000 They'd go in.

01:03:22.000 I'd love to listen.

01:03:23.000 He would rant and I would howl listening to rant.

01:03:26.000 Of course, I would prod the tiger once in a while and he'd start going.

01:03:29.000 I'm like, fucking crazy.

01:03:35.000 Fucking John Mayer.

01:03:36.000 All right, I get it.

01:03:37.000 You play.

01:03:38.000 Fucking get off the stage.

01:03:40.000 Oh, my God.

01:03:43.000 Yeah, comics are very territory about the R form.

01:03:46.000 Extremely.

01:03:46.000 Like when someone tries to do it that's not a comic, they automatically kind of reject them.

01:03:51.000 I'm always like, give him a chance.

01:03:53.000 Never know.

01:03:54.000 Never fucking know.

01:03:55.000 Never know.

01:03:56.000 Never know.

01:03:56.000 A guy who's been acting but really always wanted to do stand-up might have some good ideas and might really throw themselves into it.

01:04:02.000 It's possible.

01:04:03.000 Why would you assume it's impossible?

01:04:05.000 It's possible.

01:04:06.000 It is possible.

01:04:07.000 But the reality in LA is a lot of them were doing it because the whole casting thing had dried up for them, right?

01:04:14.000 So they weren't getting brought into shows anymore.

01:04:17.000 So they decided to do stand-up and they would just, you know, put together an act, like write an act.

01:04:24.000 Yeah, but it wasn't what they really loved.

01:04:26.000 So it wasn't what they really threw.

01:04:28.000 It was a little paycheck.

01:04:29.000 It's a little paycheck to get them back.

01:04:29.000 Yeah.

01:04:31.000 It was a career decision.

01:04:32.000 It was like pivoting, you know?

01:04:34.000 Yeah.

01:04:35.000 I know a couple guys like that.

01:04:37.000 Sitcom or a sketch show or even like an SNL character who didn't do stand-up, and now they'll tour and try to do whatever.

01:04:46.000 So here's an interesting thing.

01:04:47.000 I should tell you because you know this person.

01:04:51.000 Okay.

01:04:52.000 I actually made up with Mark Marrant the other day.

01:04:57.000 We actually had, I had to help him with something.

01:05:01.000 I had to inform him about something, and he sent me a very sincere message of thank you.

01:05:07.000 And then I sent him a message back that was sincere.

01:05:09.000 And I said, look, I'm not your enemy.

01:05:11.000 I'm sure if we saw, despite our differences, I'm sure if we saw each other, within a few minutes, we'd be laughing and smiling, which is generally how I interacted with him for the most part.

01:05:22.000 I had only a few bad interactions with him.

01:05:25.000 And he was pretty honest about how, you know, maybe it's his own mind.

01:05:30.000 And, you know, it was, but it was a very sincere interaction, which made me happy.

01:05:36.000 It's not good to have enemies.

01:05:37.000 No, it's really not.

01:05:38.000 It's not good.

01:05:39.000 I've had maybe two or three that have vocally put out on, because I'm not into the Twitter insulting or going on other programs, insulting.

01:05:56.000 If you have an issue, tell me.

01:05:58.000 Right.

01:05:58.000 And then we'll deal with it the way you're going to be able to real humans do it.

01:06:02.000 Yeah.

01:06:03.000 And when that whole thing, I have a funny feeling.

01:06:11.000 I know some of his issues were, but I felt, and I put it out there, I felt bad because for years I didn't have great interaction.

01:06:21.000 When I started, listen, I'm not poo-pooing or whatever, but yeah, a lot of guys didn't like me.

01:06:25.000 They were like, who's this animated, loudmouthed kid coming in here, confident, blah, blah, blah.

01:06:30.000 And he would always kind of like, I'll never forget.

01:06:33.000 He'd be like, you're going to woo him?

01:06:35.000 You're going to woo him tonight?

01:06:37.000 He was trying to sabotage you.

01:06:40.000 It was a competition thing.

01:06:41.000 And I understood that because I'm still back then.

01:06:44.000 You made a whole video about it.

01:06:45.000 Correct.

01:06:46.000 Yeah, I saw that video.

01:06:47.000 And so as we went on, I actually was so happy for him once he got WTF because you saw, like, wow, he became a different person.

01:06:58.000 And he found his niche.

01:06:59.000 And he became friendly.

01:07:00.000 Correct.

01:07:00.000 He was easy to be around.

01:07:03.000 His podcast was killing it.

01:07:04.000 And then he had his show on the IFC.

01:07:07.000 He was doing great.

01:07:08.000 He was way easier to hang around with.

01:07:10.000 He was incredible.

01:07:11.000 Because all the angst had been removed and he'd become a made man, right?

01:07:16.000 Yeah, and become legit.

01:07:16.000 Made man.

01:07:18.000 Who cares who else is?

01:07:20.000 Exactly.

01:07:21.000 Exactly.

01:07:23.000 But then when things go south, then it's hard to maintain that same mindset.

01:07:28.000 It's very easy for me to say, oh, just relax.

01:07:32.000 Everybody should be happy that all these people are doing well.

01:07:32.000 And who cares?

01:07:35.000 But if you're not doing well, that jealousy is a natural thing.

01:07:38.000 I've experienced it before.

01:07:40.000 I've experienced it.

01:07:41.000 I know the feeling.

01:07:42.000 I've experienced it for brief moments before.

01:07:46.000 You know, even like, you know, eight, nine years ago, maybe even.

01:07:50.000 It's like there's moments where someone's really killing it.

01:07:53.000 You're like, oh, what the fuck?

01:07:56.000 But then I realized in my head, like, God, that's a bitch ass way of thinking. 1.00

01:08:00.000 Don't hold on to that.

01:08:01.000 No.

01:08:01.000 We're on our own journey.

01:08:03.000 This is our world.

01:08:05.000 But also, that same feeling can instead be inspiration.

01:08:09.000 Like when you and I worked together and I bombed, one of the things that inspired me was not just, I got to get better because I bombed, but you murdered.

01:08:17.000 You had that bit about coming home drinking.

01:08:19.000 Coming home wasted.

01:08:20.000 And your mother was turned into a demon. 0.87

01:08:23.000 Yeah, it was a great demon.

01:08:24.000 But it was so like animated and big.

01:08:28.000 And it didn't make me hate you.

01:08:30.000 I loved you.

01:08:31.000 We were great friends.

01:08:32.000 I was like, that is so good.

01:08:34.000 And it just made me want to get better.

01:08:37.000 So that same feeling that can turn you like, oh, you're going to do woo-hoom?

01:08:41.000 You're going to do your bullshit.

01:08:42.000 Instead, I was like, fuck, Jim, you're killing it, man.

01:08:44.000 That's awesome.

01:08:45.000 Yes.

01:08:46.000 I just, I come from a different world.

01:08:49.000 And my world requires other people around you to be as good or better than you.

01:08:54.000 The martial arts world.

01:08:56.000 Like when I was a four-time state champion and I was doing, I wasn't necessarily the best guy in the gym.

01:09:02.000 There was guys in the gym that were better than me.

01:09:04.000 Yeah.

01:09:05.000 Always.

01:09:05.000 There were other guys that were also state champions.

01:09:08.000 Some of them were national champions.

01:09:09.000 They were better than me.

01:09:11.000 But because I was around those people training hard all the time, that's why I got so good.

01:09:17.000 It was because I was around people as good, if not better than me all the time that it elevated my level.

01:09:23.000 So I felt the same way about stand-up.

01:09:25.000 I'm like, you need those people that make you feel uncomfortable.

01:09:29.000 They make you feel like, fuck, I got to go to work.

01:09:32.000 Yes.

01:09:33.000 And whether it's him or whoever, it just, it doesn't even have to be the comedy world.

01:09:39.000 It's just the world in general.

01:09:40.000 It always, it's not that sad.

01:09:43.000 I wish sometimes people in those positions, no matter how successful you are and whatever you define as success, if someone else is starting to kill it somewhere, let them, what is, keep your eyes off that.

01:09:56.000 Just stay in your own, your own lane.

01:09:58.000 I hate that term, though.

01:10:01.000 It's not stay in your lane.

01:10:01.000 I've heard that.

01:10:02.000 It's stay in your world of confidence.

01:10:04.000 And I saw a couple people try to take a swipe.

01:10:07.000 And I think it was deeper than that.

01:10:09.000 I think it was A, they were envious.

01:10:12.000 And B, because you had certain people on, and perhaps they were angry because they're still lumped into how they define themselves to certain gangs that their allegiance goes to.

01:10:29.000 Yeah, ideologically.

01:10:30.000 100%.

01:10:31.000 How dare he have...

01:10:32.000 Don't platform that person.

01:10:34.000 Don't platform this one and don't platform that one and don't platform.

01:10:37.000 And in fact, I would even hear chatter like this.

01:10:41.000 I would never.

01:10:42.000 And I'd go, yes, you would.

01:10:46.000 Well, if you wouldn't, then you would never be me in the first place.

01:10:48.000 So what are you worried about?

01:10:50.000 We're different human beings.

01:10:51.000 But the point is, I understand those feelings.

01:10:51.000 Correct.

01:10:56.000 I do.

01:10:56.000 I understand those feelings of anger and those feelings of jealousy, of resentment.

01:11:00.000 It is absolutely normal, but it is a bitch-ass way to think. 1.00

01:11:05.000 And I've thought those ways.

01:11:07.000 I've had bitch-ass thinking in my life. 1.00

01:11:09.000 100%.

01:11:10.000 So I get it.

01:11:11.000 I understand it.

01:11:12.000 It's normal.

01:11:13.000 But what these people need to hear that I needed to learn myself is that that not only does not help you, it hurts you, but the same exact experience can instead be inspiring to you and that will help you.

01:11:30.000 And you're going to be uncomfortable with comparing yourself to someone who's better than you.

01:11:34.000 But that uncomfortable feeling is what leads to growth.

01:11:38.000 It's really important.

01:11:39.000 It's good.

01:11:40.000 It's good for you.

01:11:41.000 But what's not good for you is to try to dismiss that person and shit on that person.

01:11:46.000 Like, even if someone's doing something that I don't like, I don't like their style.

01:11:51.000 So what?

01:11:52.000 I don't care.

01:11:54.000 There's a lot of music.

01:11:55.000 Look, I have teenage girls. 0.97

01:11:57.000 When they listen to music, they love it.

01:11:59.000 I don't like it.

01:12:00.000 But it doesn't mean it's not good.

01:12:01.000 They fucking love it.

01:12:02.000 They love it.

01:12:03.000 There's a lot of guys that are into jazz.

01:12:05.000 I don't like it.

01:12:07.000 But it doesn't mean it's bad.

01:12:09.000 No.

01:12:10.000 It's great for some people.

01:12:11.000 It's their art.

01:12:12.000 It's like everybody has a thing that you're into and everybody has a different style.

01:12:17.000 So if someone's doing something that you don't enjoy, you don't have to hate them.

01:12:20.000 It doesn't mean that's not beneficial to you.

01:12:23.000 It doesn't help you at all.

01:12:25.000 Could sum what up what you said, but you can have your bitch ass feelings. 1.00

01:12:30.000 Yeah.

01:12:30.000 Just don't have your bitch emotions and act on, don't act bitch ass.

01:12:36.000 Just don't act bitch ass. 1.00

01:12:38.000 That's when you start having issues when you put it out in the universe because there's still inside you, which we all have it.

01:12:45.000 It's when you put it out there.

01:12:45.000 Yes.

01:12:47.000 Now it's out there.

01:12:48.000 Now everyone looks at you a whole different.

01:12:52.000 I've done that multiple times.

01:12:54.000 I'm never proud of it.

01:12:55.000 Always feel horrible.

01:12:57.000 Exactly.

01:12:57.000 Never toured always within family or friends or so.

01:13:01.000 Never, I try not to put it out in the world.

01:13:04.000 In the world with names of people because I'm not.

01:13:08.000 It doesn't feel quite.

01:13:09.000 It feels horrible.

01:13:10.000 Proud of yourself.

01:13:11.000 No, I feel like a little punk bitch.

01:13:15.000 I can't believe I just did that.

01:13:16.000 Oh my God.

01:13:17.000 I thought I was mature.

01:13:18.000 You gave in to those bitch ass feelings. 0.97

01:13:20.000 It's normal.

01:13:21.000 It's normal.

01:13:23.000 Like I remember someone was telling me that Chris Rock was selling out everywhere after the Will Smith thing.

01:13:31.000 And I swear to God, for like a couple of seconds, I was like, oh, what the, he's usually, he's selling out instantly all these arenas.

01:13:40.000 It takes me a couple of days.

01:13:42.000 It's so stupid, so dumb.

01:13:44.000 Like he was the hot ticket because everybody wanted to see him.

01:13:47.000 But it was only for a few seconds.

01:13:48.000 And then I was like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

01:13:52.000 You fucking silly bitch. 1.00

01:13:55.000 Such a dumb way to think.

01:13:57.000 But the problem is, you don't in the time.

01:14:00.000 And then the other thing is they think that they're going to diminish that by attacking you.

01:14:04.000 But what they don't understand is when you do that publicly, the heat comes for you.

01:14:12.000 Because now you've set the game in motion.

01:14:16.000 Now you started moving pieces around the board.

01:14:18.000 And then people are starting to move pieces against you.

01:14:21.000 And that's the, I felt that even at a time where I felt it was necessary.

01:14:26.000 The whole Carlos Mancia thing.

01:14:28.000 I said that to my friends afterwards.

01:14:30.000 I said, I don't think I'll ever do anything like that again.

01:14:33.000 Because just the negative, even if it was only 10% of the people that were negative, 90% were positive, that 10% is just not a good feeling.

01:14:42.000 It's a terrible feeling.

01:14:43.000 It's not good.

01:14:44.000 Even though I thought that was a necessary thing to do, because not just him, but I wanted to expose the way the business was treating that, where they were profiting off of it and openly covering it.

01:14:56.000 And they knew about it.

01:14:58.000 And they thought it was just business.

01:15:00.000 That was what my agent said to me.

01:15:01.000 It's just business.

01:15:03.000 I remember a phone call we had somewhat after that.

01:15:09.000 And I remember you telling me your agency dropped you.

01:15:15.000 They dropped you.

01:15:16.000 That's that's not crazy for thinking that, right?

01:15:20.000 No, they dropped me.

01:15:20.000 But what they said was that I had to apologize to him or they couldn't work with me anymore.

01:15:26.000 Correct.

01:15:26.000 And I said, listen, then if just you bringing that up, our relationship is over.

01:15:31.000 Done.

01:15:31.000 I said, just because you wanted to, and they said it's just business.

01:15:34.000 I go, you're making a decision that will affect you for the rest of your life.

01:15:38.000 I go, because you're siding with a vampire.

01:15:40.000 Right.

01:15:41.000 You sell art.

01:15:42.000 It's all you sell.

01:15:43.000 All you guys are is a comedy agency, right?

01:15:45.000 You sell art.

01:15:46.000 You've got a guy who's stealing art from other artists.

01:15:49.000 Like, this is bad for you.

01:15:51.000 Everyone's going to know.

01:15:52.000 So Louis left them after that.

01:15:53.000 Louis came up to me at the improv, asked me if that was true.

01:15:56.000 He goes, okay, I'm leaving them.

01:15:56.000 I said, yes.

01:15:58.000 Attel, Nick Swartzen, a bunch of people did.

01:16:01.000 So it wasn't like, I was right.

01:16:04.000 But it was also, but the negative feeling of the people angry at me for it was like so gross.

01:16:11.000 It's like you put that out there in the world.

01:16:14.000 It's a giant distraction.

01:16:15.000 It takes away from most of your life.

01:16:17.000 You think about it all the time.

01:16:19.000 Just not good.

01:16:20.000 At that time, I understand that.

01:16:24.000 But also, like, for instance, that was already out there.

01:16:30.000 Yeah.

01:16:30.000 With him?

01:16:31.000 And I personally.

01:16:32.000 With comics, it was.

01:16:33.000 It was out there with comics and it was out there with him.

01:16:36.000 I personally didn't see particular, but like I, well, you worked in a mega once or twice, and I'm not an LA guy.

01:16:45.000 So everyone and their mother, I mean, it was a lot of people that would say that.

01:16:51.000 So when the point of that happening, it was such justice in the community and beyond that, in the world.

01:17:05.000 Like, can we stop?

01:17:07.000 Can we stop, if you're taking from others, if you're taking from, which I've already dealt with at that point on some other levels, it happened multiple times when people take and then they.

01:17:19.000 Well, you dealt with it on SNL.

01:17:20.000 Yeah, yes.

01:17:21.000 SNL and other areas and which whatever.

01:17:26.000 It's all in the past and I'm all good now.

01:17:29.000 So when you deal with that and you're very, I just dealt with it with buying tickets is another whole deal.

01:17:35.000 So with that said, it's very freeing when you finally put it out there.

01:17:42.000 And not that you want to see someone's career plummet or take a hit or whatever, but it was very refreshing to see that people or fans went, oh, we didn't know this because a lot of time fans don't care.

01:18:00.000 How could they know?

01:18:01.000 They wouldn't know, but they did, but they don't.

01:18:04.000 And you go, you're still going to show up.

01:18:05.000 And then all of a sudden it just, it went to a whole different direction.

01:18:09.000 You saw like this person struggling here.

01:18:12.000 And then it was, it's that time we're living in.

01:18:15.000 You set an example for if we're all going to start moving forward, can we just be blatantly honest, whether it's whether we're making art or food, whatever you're doing in your lifetime, stop stealing.

01:18:29.000 And if you're going to take, give the credit of where you're getting it from.

01:18:33.000 Well, but you can't do that in stand-up.

01:18:35.000 No, you can't do it in stand-up.

01:18:36.000 You have to ask and you say, can I buy that bit or something like that?

01:18:39.000 But it's just such a.

01:18:41.000 Nobody wants to sell their bits.

01:18:42.000 You can't even do that.

01:18:43.000 Well, you could hire people to write for you, which is very respectable.

01:18:46.000 I know high-level comics who hire people to help them punch up jokes.

01:18:51.000 Nothing wrong with that.

01:18:53.000 And I never knew that either.

01:18:53.000 No.

01:18:55.000 I never knew that until I remember being in New York and the guy's like, hey, you know, I write with Chris.

01:19:02.000 I'm like, Chris, Chris Wright.

01:19:03.000 I'm like, oh, wow.

01:19:05.000 Yeah, I punch up stuff like that.

01:19:06.000 And then I would see certain guys, which makes sense because if you're going to hit a certain level, I mean, you got to stay.

01:19:13.000 Well, not saying they're not.

01:19:15.000 People would always say that Chris had writers, but that's not totally true.

01:19:19.000 So what Chris would do was he would come up with all the material, come up all the bits, and then he would have guys watch his set, professional guys.

01:19:28.000 And these professional guys would watch his set, and then they would talk about it.

01:19:32.000 They would have feedback on bits.

01:19:34.000 Like he really worked with Richard Jenny a lot.

01:19:37.000 He was great.

01:19:38.000 Oh, my God.

01:19:39.000 He was good.

01:19:40.000 He taught me the most.

01:19:41.000 I learned so much from Jenny because he would just take a premise and he'd go and every time you thought he was done milking this premise, he'd show up again 15 minutes later, like, oh, my God, we're going another direction with this premise.

01:19:55.000 So good.

01:19:55.000 You got to be kidding me.

01:19:56.000 He was so thorough.

01:19:57.000 Oh, my God.

01:19:58.000 He would take all, I mean, it was so impressive.

01:20:01.000 Wow.

01:20:01.000 So Jenny's helping.

01:20:03.000 Yes.

01:20:04.000 Jenny helped rock with Bigger and Blacker.

01:20:06.000 He helped him with, what was the other one that was really Bring the Pain?

01:20:09.000 Yes, the two big monsters.

01:20:11.000 Two classic.

01:20:12.000 Two of, like, if you have a top 20 all-time comedy specials, they're both in there.

01:20:16.000 Monster.

01:20:17.000 Monster bits.

01:20:18.000 Monster sets.

01:20:20.000 He's the first guy I saw.

01:20:22.000 Chris was the very first person I saw.

01:20:24.000 I won a lottery to do Open Mic at the comic strip.

01:20:28.000 And I'm going to say I was 19, maybe 19, 20.

01:20:32.000 I didn't know what that was.

01:20:35.000 And I show up at the comic strip and I see Eddie Murphy on the, I'm like, oh, I just swear.

01:20:40.000 Because I had that Eddie Murphy album.

01:20:42.000 He had like a little flowers from the comic strip.

01:20:44.000 And he had a little.

01:20:46.000 Did he do that at the comic strip?

01:20:47.000 Yeah.

01:20:48.000 He did.

01:20:49.000 Yes.

01:20:49.000 It was at the comic strip.

01:20:51.000 And he did life in the comic strip.

01:20:53.000 He's like, it was.

01:20:54.000 That's a great special.

01:20:55.000 Great special.

01:20:58.000 I bought it on cassette.

01:20:59.000 That's how old it is.

01:21:00.000 I bought it as an album.

01:21:01.000 Bro, how did he stop doing stand-up?

01:21:03.000 There it is.

01:21:03.000 Oh, my God.

01:21:04.000 How did he stop doing stand-up?

01:21:05.000 He was 1982.

01:21:07.000 He was so good.

01:21:08.000 Yeah.

01:21:09.000 So I was a little bit more.

01:21:09.000 I was a sophomore in high school back.

01:21:11.000 Me too.

01:21:13.000 Were you 58?

01:21:14.000 Yeah.

01:21:15.000 We graduated at the same time.

01:21:16.000 Look at the comic strip.

01:21:17.000 He was so good.

01:21:18.000 When you see him, did you see him do that?

01:21:22.000 He got one of those Mark Twain awards, I believe it was.

01:21:25.000 Yes.

01:21:25.000 And he went and did a set.

01:21:27.000 Yes.

01:21:27.000 Did an impression of Bill Cosby getting his awards taken away from him?

01:21:31.000 No.

01:21:32.000 Yes.

01:21:32.000 It's great.

01:21:33.000 I got to watch it.

01:21:34.000 I got to watch that.

01:21:35.000 It's really, Jamie will pull it up.

01:21:37.000 You go, oh my God, please do stand up again.

01:21:39.000 Please do stand up again.

01:21:40.000 Do you remember the bit he did?

01:21:41.000 He goes, he goes, I guess it was in, what was it?

01:21:48.000 What was the one with the red leather pants?

01:21:50.000 Raw.

01:21:51.000 No, no, no.

01:21:52.000 Delirious?

01:21:52.000 Delirious.

01:21:53.000 Delirious.

01:21:53.000 And he goes, You're right.

01:21:54.000 He goes, man.

01:21:54.000 You're right.

01:21:55.000 He goes, man.

01:21:56.000 He goes, Bill Cosby called me and he said, you know, the filth and the foul and the foul and the filth and the fit.

01:22:03.000 And he goes, so I call Richard Pryor.

01:22:05.000 And Richard Pryor said, next time I motherfucker call you him.

01:22:08.000 Tell him to suck my dick and have a mice putting on me. 1.00

01:22:11.000 Well, he said, do the people laugh?

01:22:13.000 Did you get paid?

01:22:14.000 But tell Bill to have a coking smile and shut the fuck up.

01:22:14.000 Yes.

01:22:17.000 That's what he said.

01:22:18.000 That's what he said.

01:22:20.000 Thank you so much.

01:22:21.000 This is a tremendous honor.

01:22:24.000 Wonderful evening.

01:22:25.000 I'd like to thank the Kennedy Center, first of all, for celebrating me and honoring me in such a wonderful way and bringing my loved ones and my family here.

01:22:34.000 This is a super special, memorable night.

01:22:37.000 And thank you to all the comedians and came out and sang.

01:22:41.000 I mean, Sam Moore came out and sang and Alabama Shakes was here.

01:22:46.000 I had a really, really, really special, special night.

01:22:50.000 It hasn't been lost on me that, you know, usually when people have evenings like this, a person's really, really old when they get these awards.

01:23:00.000 They'll let you wait really like one of the greatest, funniest people of all time was George Carlin, and he received this award posthumously.

01:23:11.000 And he's funnier than all of us.

01:23:13.000 So to be standing here alive and looking like myself still is a little joy.

01:23:20.000 They'll let you get really old and do this, you know.

01:23:28.000 And there was also some confusion about whether or not it was an award or a prize.

01:23:32.000 And I, you know.

01:23:34.000 And actually, it's an award.

01:23:36.000 Even though they call it a prize, it's an award.

01:23:38.000 Because usually when there's a prize, there's money involved.

01:23:47.000 I thought I was going to get some paper.

01:23:48.000 I was like, yo.

01:23:51.000 Mark Twain award at Kennedy saying, that sounds like paper.

01:23:55.000 Then they told me yesterday they raised 2.3 million.

01:23:58.000 I was like, yo, I'm in there.

01:24:02.000 Then I came down and they told me that, oh, there is no, it's a prize, but there is no money.

01:24:08.000 And I was like, oh my gosh.

01:24:12.000 So I think to clear up the confusion for future recipients, maybe you don't want to call it the Mark Twain Prize.

01:24:21.000 If you don't want to call it the award, maybe you could call it the Mark Twain surprise.

01:24:27.000 Surprise and surprise of course being you ain't get no money But that still doesn't diminish how wonderful this is.

01:24:45.000 It's a wonderful, wonderful thing to be included with some of my heroes, Richard Pryor and George Carlin and Carl Reiner and Lily Tomlin.

01:24:59.000 Who else got this?

01:25:00.000 Oh, Bill has one of these.

01:25:05.000 Did y'all make Bill give his back?

01:25:09.000 No, because I know there was a big outcry from people.

01:25:11.000 It was trying to get Bill to give his trophies back.

01:25:14.000 You know you f***ed up when they want you to give your trophies back.

01:25:21.000 Give his trophy back, too?

01:25:25.000 He should do one show.

01:25:26.000 We just come out and just talk crazy now.

01:25:30.000 I would like to talk to some of the people who feel that I should give back my trophy.

01:25:47.000 Obviously they bleep that out.

01:25:49.000 Wow.

01:25:51.000 Just because you may have heard recently that I allegedly put the pill in the people's chocolate.

01:26:05.000 I wish somebody would come up to my house talking about give up the trophy because you put the pill in the people's chocolate.

01:26:10.000 You get up.

01:26:12.000 I'm not giving back.

01:26:18.000 And who?

01:26:22.000 Who is Hannibal Barris?

01:26:28.000 Hannibal Barris!

01:26:34.000 But this is 11 years ago.

01:26:38.000 Dick Gregory said.

01:26:40.000 Yeah, that's Dick Gregory.

01:26:40.000 It was, right?

01:26:41.000 Yeah, just come on out and push the over there. 1.00

01:26:44.000 Yeah, we're going to get it.

01:26:44.000 You know, he's like a stand-up.

01:26:48.000 He's doing stand-up in the war, and he's killing, and he hasn't done stand-up in fucking decades.

01:26:53.000 I think it's the Billy Joel thing where he was such a hit and so I mean his stand-up specials were monsters.

01:27:02.000 It's to be want to be compared to that is such a like you and I, Archimede's like, my kids have no clue Eddie Murphy with stand-up.

01:27:14.000 They have no clue.

01:27:15.000 They just know him as Donkey.

01:27:16.000 That's crazy.

01:27:17.000 He's Donkey and Shrek.

01:27:19.000 And Shrek.

01:27:19.000 Right.

01:27:20.000 He's big mama.

01:27:21.000 Yes.

01:27:22.000 They don't even know that.

01:27:23.000 No, that's not him.

01:27:24.000 They just know Donkey. 0.99

01:27:25.000 No, he was the other one.

01:27:26.000 We got fat.

01:27:27.000 The clumps, the crumps.

01:27:28.000 The clumps.

01:27:29.000 Nutty professor.

01:27:29.000 Yeah, nutty professor.

01:27:31.000 And then there was other one where he played like a bunch of different people.

01:27:33.000 That's the clumps.

01:27:34.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:27:35.000 Yeah.

01:27:35.000 He's the one where I committed to doing stand-up.

01:27:39.000 I was taking, I was, my parents moved to Florida.

01:27:42.000 This is like 87, something like that.

01:27:47.000 So I'm taking theater.

01:27:48.000 I'm doing stand-up in Long Island, like playing Levitt Town, the governors.

01:27:54.000 And I was shocked no one discovered me.

01:27:56.000 I was so cocky.

01:27:58.000 So cocky.

01:28:00.000 How do you not know?

01:28:01.000 I've arrived in New York.

01:28:03.000 Soon I will be discovered.

01:28:05.000 And then my parents moved to Florida.

01:28:07.000 And while I'm down there, I'm really struggling.

01:28:10.000 I think I was almost 21 years old.

01:28:13.000 I said, I'll just go into restaurant management and hotel.

01:28:18.000 And I took that nonsense class.

01:28:21.000 And then Eddie Murphy, and the only reason I was doing it was for my mother because my mom's like, you got to fall back on something and you need a pension.

01:28:29.000 And, you know, they're working.

01:28:31.000 You got to get a pension and make money.

01:28:32.000 And God forbid something happens.

01:28:34.000 Jimmy, you got to do something.

01:28:36.000 And so while I'll never forget this, this is like nine, I want to say it's late 88, maybe early 89.

01:28:46.000 And Arsenio Hall was like the biggest talk show thing ever.

01:28:52.000 Yeah.

01:28:53.000 Where my dogs?

01:28:55.000 It was huge.

01:28:56.000 Things that make you go hmm.

01:28:58.000 Yeah, things that make you hmm.

01:29:00.000 Yeah.

01:29:01.000 Things that make you go home.

01:29:02.000 Yes, things that make you hmm.

01:29:05.000 And so he had Eddie Murphy on.

01:29:08.000 And of course, I saw Eddie Murphy live at Westbury Music Fair when he was like 18 years old.

01:29:14.000 I'm like, this is my life right here.

01:29:16.000 And so I'm watching Eddie Murphy.

01:29:19.000 I wish I could find this interview one day.

01:29:23.000 And Arsenio's like, you got anything to say for any young comics out there?

01:29:29.000 And this is not exactly what he said, but I remember he turned to the camera.

01:29:33.000 He went, don't listen to your mother. 0.63

01:29:35.000 Your mother wants you to do that and do that.

01:29:37.000 You're going to 100%.

01:29:38.000 Why are you going to fall back at something?

01:29:39.000 You already fancy.

01:29:40.000 If you're going to make a pizza, you're going to make a pizza 100%.

01:29:42.000 You're going to put the pepperoni.

01:29:44.000 But the point of him was like, don't listen to your mother.

01:29:47.000 You're going to go for it.

01:29:49.000 You know what you want inside.

01:29:50.000 You go for it.

01:29:51.000 Stop listening.

01:29:52.000 He's outside sources that really, they're not in your brain.

01:29:56.000 They're not in your journey.

01:29:57.000 They're not in your vision.

01:29:59.000 I've told a couple nephews and a good friend about this.

01:30:04.000 I really want to go into Essent.

01:30:05.000 Do it.

01:30:05.000 Your mom's going to get pissed, but she's not.

01:30:08.000 This is your journey, kid.

01:30:09.000 Go for it.

01:30:10.000 But that moment, Eddie Murphy is the reason why I just, I went home that day and I went, I got to tell you guys something.

01:30:19.000 And, you know, my dad's World War II vet.

01:30:22.000 Everyone's a cop in the family.

01:30:24.000 My dad is still like, you know, you can still sign up for the police department.

01:30:28.000 You want that?

01:30:29.000 And I got a good pension.

01:30:31.000 Officer Jim.

01:30:33.000 Yeah, dude.

01:30:34.000 I was there like, dad.

01:30:36.000 The windows roll down.

01:30:37.000 Smoke comes out of the car.

01:30:38.000 Give me that joint. 0.68

01:30:40.000 Get the fuck out of here.

01:30:41.000 You know why it pulls you over?

01:30:42.000 No, okay.

01:30:43.000 All right.

01:30:43.000 I don't need it.

01:30:44.000 Don't be an asshole.

01:30:44.000 Get out of here.

01:30:45.000 Just get home safe.

01:30:46.000 Don't follow me.

01:30:47.000 And not only that, I told my dad, if I ever had to chase someone, I'm not, I'm not giving you a ticket.

01:30:54.000 I am going to beat the shit out of you.

01:30:57.000 If I'm running, my cands are killing me, and I'm going through red lights when I get you.

01:31:02.000 I'm taking you behind a dumpster. 0.99

01:31:03.000 It's not going to end well for you.

01:31:05.000 I'm not made for that.

01:31:06.000 And so I said, hey, I want to let you know right now, I am going to be a stand-up comedian.

01:31:13.000 I am going to go into TV.

01:31:15.000 I'm going to pursue film.

01:31:17.000 And this is what I'm doing.

01:31:18.000 And I'll never forget it.

01:31:19.000 It was my dad.

01:31:20.000 It was my dad who turned to me, never shook my hand in my life.

01:31:26.000 And he went, you're a man now.

01:31:28.000 And he goes, you go do that because I never had that opportunity.

01:31:32.000 And I want you to have more than me.

01:31:34.000 And my mom was like, Jesus Christ, all my careful, be careful.

01:31:41.000 Be careful.

01:31:42.000 Jesus Christ.

01:31:44.000 Later that night, she's having martinis.

01:31:46.000 You know why I was sitting around?

01:31:50.000 I've been right out.

01:31:51.000 That was it.

01:31:51.000 Oh, that's so funny.

01:31:52.000 That was the Eddie Murphy and then my dad's official boom.

01:31:58.000 And I was off to the races.

01:32:01.000 By the time I started doing stand-up, my parents had long given up on trying to control me.

01:32:06.000 They're like, okay.

01:32:07.000 Good luck.

01:32:07.000 Yeah.

01:32:08.000 Well, yeah, you're in your young 20s now.

01:32:10.000 Yeah.

01:32:11.000 And it was also like they were uncomfortable about me fighting.

01:32:15.000 And I was like, I don't know.

01:32:16.000 I'm going to go do this.

01:32:18.000 I'm doing this.

01:32:18.000 Yeah, you know what you're doing.

01:32:20.000 Well, it's like, even when I didn't know what I was doing, I was going to do it.

01:32:23.000 Yeah, you were doing it.

01:32:24.000 But it's like that leap is very hard when your parents are telling you no.

01:32:28.000 It's very hard.

01:32:29.000 When they're giving you a hard time and they're putting pressure on you to have a legitimate career, they just don't get it.

01:32:36.000 You know, they just don't get it that it's like someone can do it.

01:32:41.000 It is a job.

01:32:42.000 So this thing is like, oh, what if you never make it?

01:32:45.000 Like, I remember I was dating this girl when I was 21 and her dad said that to her.

01:32:49.000 Like, her dad was very concerned about me.

01:32:52.000 He said, what if he doesn't make it?

01:32:54.000 And she said it to me.

01:32:55.000 You know what my dad said?

01:32:56.000 He said, what if you don't make it?

01:32:57.000 I go, okay.

01:32:59.000 I don't know what to say.

01:33:00.000 Maybe I won't, but I'm going to try.

01:33:02.000 I'm not going to stop doing it because I might not make it.

01:33:04.000 That's retarded. 1.00

01:33:05.000 I go, someone can do it.

01:33:07.000 Like, I work with professional comedians all the time.

01:33:10.000 They make a living doing stand-up comedy.

01:33:12.000 Right.

01:33:12.000 I know it exists.

01:33:14.000 It's not like it's, it's not like I'm inventing a new profession that didn't exist before.

01:33:18.000 Correct.

01:33:18.000 Like, this is a profession.

01:33:20.000 Yeah.

01:33:20.000 It's not easy to do, but I think I can do it.

01:33:23.000 And I think I want to try because I can't have a regular job.

01:33:28.000 I'm too ADD.

01:33:30.000 I can't sit in a me either.

01:33:32.000 And when I say regular job, people think.

01:33:34.000 I know what you mean.

01:33:34.000 Oh, you're demeaning our jobs.

01:33:36.000 That's not what I mean.

01:33:37.000 I mean, a job you don't want to do.

01:33:38.000 Like, if you have an office job, but that's what you love doing, if you're doing something that you enjoy doing, there's nothing wrong with that.

01:33:45.000 But a lot of people, that's not what they're doing.

01:33:47.000 A lot of people are just doing a job.

01:33:50.000 And that beats you down.

01:33:51.000 It beats you down and it dulls you.

01:33:54.000 It dulls the conversations that you have.

01:33:57.000 It dulls the conversations you have off work.

01:33:59.000 You don't get stimulated.

01:34:00.000 You're at a drone frequency, unfortunately.

01:34:04.000 And I didn't want to do that, man.

01:34:06.000 I had a bunch of jobs, like job jobs, just for money, and they don't feel good.

01:34:11.000 I didn't enjoy it.

01:34:12.000 And I didn't have a thing.

01:34:13.000 Like, if there was a thing, like, I want to be a carpenter, I want to build houses.

01:34:16.000 I didn't have that thing.

01:34:17.000 I didn't have it either.

01:34:18.000 But I know people who do, and they're very happy.

01:34:20.000 They love it.

01:34:22.000 Architects, engineers.

01:34:23.000 There's a lot of people who love what they do.

01:34:26.000 Those were not interesting to me.

01:34:28.000 And so I was trying.

01:34:29.000 And then stand-up was the only thing.

01:34:31.000 I'm like, oh, my God, these people are outcasts just like me.

01:34:34.000 They're weirdos just like me.

01:34:36.000 They're the people that just don't fit in.

01:34:38.000 They're the people that say the things you're not supposed to say.

01:34:40.000 That was me.

01:34:41.000 I was like, I got to figure out how to do this.

01:34:44.000 I knew it was a, I might, I mean, I never thought my own Fitzsimmons and I talk about this all the time because we started out like literally within a week of each other.

01:34:51.000 Wow.

01:34:52.000 We traveled together.

01:34:53.000 All of we would drive to Rhode Island to do open mics together.

01:34:56.000 We hung out.

01:34:57.000 We did a ton of road gigs in the early days.

01:34:59.000 All our goal was to be able to pay our bills with comedy.

01:35:03.000 That was the goal.

01:35:04.000 Right.

01:35:05.000 The only goal.

01:35:06.000 And it felt great.

01:35:06.000 That was because we knew guys.

01:35:08.000 It was this guy, DJ Hazard, who was a really funny Boston stand-up.

01:35:12.000 And I went to look at these apartments once.

01:35:14.000 And these loft apartments, they had turned this like an elementary school, this old brick elementary school into these loft condos.

01:35:23.000 Yeah.

01:35:24.000 And DJ had a place there.

01:35:25.000 And I knew, like, I went to look at this like little studio apartment that they had there.

01:35:29.000 And he had this big loft there.

01:35:31.000 I was like, oh my God, you imagine this guy's doing this just with comedy.

01:35:35.000 This is crazy.

01:35:36.000 Right.

01:35:36.000 Look at this fucking killer apartment this guy has and he just tells jokes.

01:35:41.000 Well, that was the dream.

01:35:41.000 Right.

01:35:42.000 And that was the dream.

01:35:42.000 Yes.

01:35:43.000 I tell my kids too, I tell everyone, just go for your passion.

01:35:48.000 Whatever it is.

01:35:49.000 Go for the passion.

01:35:51.000 Like, Julie, while you're young, while you don't have a family, mortgage, you know, is this the moment?

01:35:56.000 I think so.

01:35:57.000 He's talking about starting comedy and look at his hair.

01:35:59.000 Look at his hair.

01:36:05.000 By the way, Ed, here's your report card.

01:36:07.000 I'll be blown away if this is it.

01:36:12.000 But you always knew that this is where you wanted to be.

01:36:16.000 I knew I wanted to be in show business.

01:36:17.000 And I just happened to luck out and things happened.

01:36:21.000 I think you know, you know, if you know what you're supposed to do deep down inside, I think everybody does.

01:36:27.000 And a lot of people just don't go after it.

01:36:29.000 You know, like most people start out, they say, I want to be a this, but I'm going to get that to make sure I have something to fall back on.

01:36:36.000 And what you're doing is you're setting yourself up a fade because you're going, there's a possibility that I'm going to fall back.

01:36:41.000 And when you put that out there, then you fall back.

01:36:43.000 But if you just say, hey, this is what I want to do and you go do it, you usually get your stuff the way you want it, man.

01:36:48.000 That's what.

01:36:53.000 I don't even know if this is true because you know how Uncle Ray lies.

01:36:56.000 Okay.

01:36:57.000 Uncle Ray's.

01:36:58.000 I loved Uncle Ray.

01:36:59.000 You know how Uncle lies.

01:37:00.000 Uncle Ray shaved off his beard.

01:37:02.000 You see him?

01:37:02.000 No, I didn't see him.

01:37:07.000 Uncle Ray told me that a portion still went down my back.

01:37:10.000 He came out with his beard off.

01:37:11.000 I said, oh, they don't know Uncle Ray, so they're like, picture me, but a lot older.

01:37:20.000 That's Uncle Ray.

01:37:24.000 He said that, how much time do we have?

01:37:30.000 Plenty.

01:37:30.000 Do you have any other guests tonight?

01:37:36.000 He's like, this is, I already did my favorite.

01:37:41.000 Uncle Ray!

01:37:41.000 Way right.

01:37:43.000 Not Uncle Ray.

01:37:44.000 Please don't invite Uncle Ray out here.

01:37:46.000 Uncle Ray!

01:37:57.000 Submit That's hilarious.

01:38:02.000 He brought his uncle out.

01:38:03.000 Dude, he would bring his uncle.

01:38:04.000 That's what I'm going to look like in 40 years.

01:38:04.000 His uncle would murder.

01:38:08.000 His uncle would murder, I think, on Letterman.

01:38:12.000 His uncle would murder.

01:38:14.000 Now, now he got me wondering.

01:38:17.000 Maybe there's another interview.

01:38:18.000 No, and I could stop.

01:38:21.000 Like, did I go from that?

01:38:23.000 Or in my head, it was.

01:38:24.000 Did you add to it in your head?

01:38:25.000 Did I add to it in my head?

01:38:27.000 That does happen.

01:38:28.000 It does happen.

01:38:29.000 Oh, it's like that.

01:38:29.000 I don't like it.

01:38:30.000 I don't like that.

01:38:31.000 I'm like, he absolutely said.

01:38:33.000 It's so weird when you have a memory that you're sure of.

01:38:37.000 And other people are like, no, this happened.

01:38:39.000 That happened.

01:38:40.000 And then you're like, wait, shit.

01:38:40.000 The other thing.

01:38:43.000 But I you're right.

01:38:44.000 And I do remember saying the fallback stuff because I used that going into talking to my mom, like, mom, can't fall back.

01:38:49.000 Am I going to do 100?

01:38:50.000 That is a fact.

01:38:53.000 You can't fall back.

01:38:54.000 You can't have a net.

01:38:56.000 You're not going to make it if you have a net.

01:38:58.000 No, you're spreading yourself thin all over the place.

01:39:00.000 Well, also, the amount of focus that it takes, whatever you're trying to do in life, the amount of focus that it takes to do it.

01:39:06.000 This is what I always say to fighters when they have like one foot in and one foot out.

01:39:10.000 I'm like, quit.

01:39:11.000 Quit.

01:39:12.000 Because the consequences of you facing a guy that's all in are devastating.

01:39:16.000 That guy wants to be the best ever, and you're not sure if you want to fight anymore.

01:39:21.000 You're going to get hurt.

01:39:22.000 Right.

01:39:23.000 Right.

01:39:24.000 That happens a lot.

01:39:25.000 You see that a lot.

01:39:26.000 Yeah, because sometimes it's just for the cash.

01:39:29.000 Well, it's also their identity.

01:39:32.000 You know, they're not sure if this is the right career for them.

01:39:35.000 Maybe they have a couple of losses and they don't feel confident anymore.

01:39:39.000 Like, get out.

01:39:40.000 But with comedy, at least you don't have to worry about getting hurt.

01:39:43.000 Like, really, what it's just about is like, okay, you're presented with more challenges.

01:39:47.000 Figure it out.

01:39:49.000 Figure it out and push through.

01:39:50.000 Somebody's done it.

01:39:52.000 There's people out there that are doing it, which is one of the things that we really, when we started the club, one of the things that we implemented at the club that we thought was really important is a legitimate development program.

01:39:52.000 Okay.

01:40:02.000 So Adam Egot, who is the talent coordinator for the comedy store, is now the talent coordinator for the mothership.

01:40:08.000 But he takes it very seriously.

01:40:10.000 There's a program.

01:40:11.000 There's two days of open mic nights.

01:40:13.000 He watches everybody's set.

01:40:15.000 He sits down, he takes notes, he gives them feedback.

01:40:18.000 And then when they start progressing, he gives them a little bit more time.

01:40:21.000 And then maybe he'll give them a spot on one of the showcase shows.

01:40:24.000 Right.

01:40:25.000 And doing that and allowing people to have a pathway where then they go on the road with some of the other headliners.

01:40:32.000 And we have a lot of guys that are headlining on the road that are taking a lot of the people that work at the club, door people, people that work on the staff, take them on the road with them.

01:40:41.000 And now, so there's a pathway.

01:40:43.000 So not only do you see that others have done it, so you know, but there's a way that it's like we're helping them.

01:40:50.000 And there's a lot of talented people that they get frustrated.

01:40:54.000 And we all knew guys that were really fucking talented when we were in New York.

01:40:58.000 Remember that kid from Jimmy's Comedy Alley?

01:41:00.000 I brought him up before.

01:41:02.000 Dark hair.

01:41:03.000 He was really funny.

01:41:04.000 Really funny.

01:41:05.000 Remember Jimmy's Comedy Alley in Queens?

01:41:08.000 I know I brought him up on the podcast before.

01:41:10.000 This kid was funny, man, but funny, but like really socially conscious.

01:41:10.000 Vaguely.

01:41:15.000 He was a New York guy.

01:41:17.000 He was a New York guy.

01:41:20.000 Was he kind of sporadic and off the wall a little bit?

01:41:24.000 Yeah, he was a little weird.

01:41:26.000 I know who you're talking about.

01:41:27.000 You know who I'm talking about.

01:41:29.000 Oh, my God.

01:41:30.000 But he was funny.

01:41:31.000 George?

01:41:31.000 Is it George Gallo?

01:41:32.000 No, no.

01:41:33.000 That's another guy who was very funny too.

01:41:35.000 Okay.

01:41:36.000 There was another guy, but this guy was different.

01:41:38.000 He was almost like kind of like clearly a fan of Bill Hicks.

01:41:43.000 He wasn't stealing from Bill Hicks, but he was clearly inspired by Bill Hicks.

01:41:47.000 I mean, not Bill Hicks style at all, but socially conscious stand-up that was really funny and good.

01:41:54.000 And I was like, this guy's going to make it.

01:41:56.000 And no.

01:41:57.000 Almost Stanhope-y.

01:41:59.000 Like Doug.

01:42:00.000 Not as good as Stanhope.

01:42:02.000 Not as good as Stan Hope, but didn't have.

01:42:04.000 Like, by the time I met Stand-Up, Stan Hope, rather, Stan Hope had been doing Stand-Up for probably 12 years.

01:42:12.000 So he was like super legit back then.

01:42:14.000 I think that's when I remember we were at some Florida event, and I went down there totally fluffing my feathers.

01:42:26.000 I think I might have had a season of SNL.

01:42:30.000 Like, you know, I'm wearing my pad.

01:42:31.000 Like, I got my peacock feathers out.

01:42:34.000 And Stanhope was the winner of this festival, and they got to play the last night.

01:42:42.000 I think it was like Todd Berry.

01:42:47.000 All I remember is Todd Berry, Doug Stanhope, and me.

01:42:52.000 Now, I was supposed to follow Todd Berry.

01:42:57.000 No offense to Todd.

01:42:59.000 I'll take that any day of the week because Todd's energy is lower.

01:43:03.000 Right.

01:43:03.000 He's like a Deadpan guy.

01:43:05.000 Right.

01:43:05.000 And Deadpan, Nomada Murder.

01:43:07.000 I know, I feel comfortable.

01:43:08.000 I'm like, okay, I usually do okay after Deadpan, no matter what.

01:43:13.000 I'm ready to go.

01:43:14.000 I'm seasoned.

01:43:14.000 I could do this.

01:43:16.000 They go, we're switching the order.

01:43:18.000 I'm switching the order.

01:43:19.000 Because at that time, too, I think the manager, maybe it was whoever it was, he knew.

01:43:24.000 He's like, there's no way he's going to be able to go up after Stanhope.

01:43:27.000 So they switched Barry and Stanhope.

01:43:30.000 So now I don't know who Doug Stanhope is.

01:43:33.000 And Doug Stanhope goes out.

01:43:35.000 I'm going to say for like the first couple minutes, he's eating it a little bit.

01:43:40.000 And I'm like, why would you do this to this kid?

01:43:43.000 And then all of a sudden, he snapped.

01:43:46.000 And all I remember is from that moment on, I went, oh shit.

01:43:52.000 This is going to be an issue going up after this.

01:43:56.000 And he was murdering like slaying.

01:44:02.000 And the things he was saying, because at that time, too, I'm not a dirty guy.

01:44:07.000 I'm not, I just chew sometimes.

01:44:10.000 I love filthy material, but I just don't always go in that.

01:44:15.000 And he's hitting subjects, like dark subjects and such.

01:44:20.000 And he's beating the shit out of the rope.

01:44:24.000 And I just went, yeah, this is not going to go well.

01:44:28.000 And I remember going up and I held my own, but I don't know if I pulled off going off or going up after a very young, unproven Stanhope.

01:44:42.000 Even back then, I was like, I got to keep my eye on this guy because he's a monster.

01:44:47.000 And he was.

01:44:48.000 He was a.

01:44:50.000 This is like 90, maybe mid-90s.

01:44:55.000 Yeah, I think I met Stanhope 98, somewhere around then.

01:45:00.000 Talking about, oh, no.

01:45:03.000 No.

01:45:04.000 Well, maybe.

01:45:04.000 He went out of those.

01:45:06.000 That's Keith Anthony.

01:45:07.000 He just looks different there.

01:45:07.000 That is him.

01:45:09.000 Wait a minute.

01:45:09.000 Whoa.

01:45:10.000 He's older.

01:45:11.000 Yep, that's him.

01:45:12.000 That's him.

01:45:12.000 No, it's just Keith Stanhope.

01:45:13.000 Is he still working?

01:45:16.000 Who's Keith Anthony?

01:45:17.000 Keith Anthony is the guy that I was telling you about Jimmy's comedy album.

01:45:19.000 Oh, he's very funny.

01:45:21.000 He came to the comedy store.

01:45:25.000 He drove across the country in a Cadillac that had the roof sawed off of it.

01:45:30.000 And it was a convertible, but not really.

01:45:33.000 So it didn't have a top.

01:45:34.000 And so his fucking, he got rained on while he was driving across the country.

01:45:38.000 So his entire Cadillac is filled with water while he's driving.

01:45:42.000 I don't know if he drove with a raincoat or if he just ate it.

01:45:45.000 Just ate the water.

01:45:46.000 But yeah, that's Keith Anthony.

01:45:48.000 Well, that's him.

01:45:48.000 Thank you, Jason.

01:45:49.000 Is he still around?

01:45:49.000 How did you pull that off?

01:45:51.000 Tricks.

01:45:52.000 Is he still around?

01:45:53.000 I don't know.

01:45:53.000 I haven't seen him in forever.

01:45:55.000 I remember we brought him up on the podcast a few years ago.

01:45:58.000 I found a transcript where he brought him up.

01:45:59.000 Yeah.

01:46:00.000 And who is the guy from the radio?

01:46:05.000 I hope I'm not going to Rogers.

01:46:07.000 The radio is a radio guy.

01:46:09.000 He was taller.

01:46:10.000 He was married to like an Israeli chick. 1.00

01:46:13.000 John Tobin.

01:46:14.000 Yes.

01:46:15.000 Yeah.

01:46:16.000 I still, that was one of the greatest, most hilarious adventures of my lifetime was Tobin and I, we had a gig, and it was horrifying.

01:46:29.000 It was like, coconuts.

01:46:31.000 We're going to send you down to, we're going to send you down to Cancun Spring Break.

01:46:37.000 Oh, God.

01:46:38.000 Oh, yeah.

01:46:39.000 And I'm young.

01:46:41.000 I'm like, oh, my, I'm not even married yet.

01:46:43.000 You were in Cancun?

01:46:44.000 Yes.

01:46:45.000 And it's spring break.

01:46:46.000 I'm like, oh, my God.

01:46:48.000 What year was this?

01:46:50.000 Okay, so I got married 93.

01:46:51.000 I'm going to say 1992, 1992.

01:46:55.000 And I think I'm making 500 bucks for two weeks.

01:46:58.000 You have to work every single night, right?

01:47:01.000 So wait a minute.

01:47:03.000 So I'm with, so I don't know who the other comedian is, right?

01:47:07.000 Right.

01:47:08.000 And so as we, I land a Cancun and ride away the bells and I whistle and have a tequila shot.

01:47:14.000 I'm like, I'm young.

01:47:15.000 Like, this is great.

01:47:16.000 Tobin is probably 10, 15 years older.

01:47:20.000 Yeah.

01:47:21.000 Yeah.

01:47:22.000 I wanted to say he was in his young 40s.

01:47:25.000 I could be wrong.

01:47:26.000 So as we're driving down the Cancun, we're getting wasted on the bus.

01:47:31.000 Like, who wants another shot?

01:47:34.000 I want another shot.

01:47:35.000 It's the greatest gig ever.

01:47:37.000 So we pass all the spring break hotels and there's no one left on the bus.

01:47:43.000 There's nobody left on a bus except for some guy who's like in his 40s, right?

01:47:48.000 And I got walking up the bus drive.

01:47:49.000 I'm like, hey, where's La Travas?

01:47:55.000 And he's going, what?

01:47:58.000 I don't understand what he's saying.

01:47:59.000 And this guy goes, he said it's downtown.

01:48:03.000 I'm like, oh, I go, what is your name?

01:48:08.000 He goes, John.

01:48:09.000 I go, I'm a comedian.

01:48:10.000 He's like, yeah, I'm the other fucking comedian.

01:48:12.000 And they have us fucking downtown.

01:48:14.000 They don't have some fucking thing.

01:48:17.000 I said, it's okay.

01:48:18.000 Are you sure?

01:48:19.000 That doesn't sound like that.

01:48:20.000 No, no, no, no, dude.

01:48:21.000 It was John.

01:48:22.000 This is really funny.

01:48:24.000 So they put us downtown, right?

01:48:28.000 Me and Tobin.

01:48:28.000 And me and John have talked to us multiple times.

01:48:31.000 I said, one day we got to write this as the funniest adventure ever.

01:48:36.000 We had a take.

01:48:38.000 First of all, we check in the hotel and the guy's like, yeah, I don't know if the other guy's still in there.

01:48:45.000 What other guy?

01:48:46.000 They're like, the three of you are in one room.

01:48:48.000 When three of us in a room, what are you talking about?

01:48:51.000 John's losing his shit.

01:48:53.000 He's arguing with his, when he's like, I'm married to an Israeli check.

01:48:56.000 I say, hey, fuck it.

01:48:57.000 And all they do is yell at each other.

01:48:58.000 He goes, pay for you, fucking yell each other.

01:49:00.000 So now we go to our room and there's, there's someone in our room.

01:49:04.000 And he goes, yeah, I haven't been paid yet.

01:49:07.000 Been stuck here for like a month.

01:49:09.000 Like, oh.

01:49:10.000 Oh, yeah.

01:49:10.000 So I slept on the floor all my life on my lap.

01:49:15.000 As Tobin this, right? 0.88

01:49:16.000 So I'm on the floor.

01:49:18.000 The first night I wake up and Tobin's like yelling over the, he's like, if you keep snoring, I'm going to lose my shit.

01:49:29.000 Right.

01:49:30.000 So by the end of the week, we're not getting paid.

01:49:32.000 All the gigs are getting canceled.

01:49:35.000 All I remember is it ended like six days later.

01:49:41.000 I had to go get money transferred because now we're partying.

01:49:44.000 We're just like, screw it.

01:49:46.000 Let's go find weed, tequila. 1.00

01:49:49.000 We went on an adventure with this poor bastard got thrown out of a car.

01:49:54.000 We were going to buy tequila right outside.

01:49:56.000 And the guy got thrown out of the car.

01:49:59.000 And we're like, what's going on?

01:50:00.000 Now we're all wasted.

01:50:01.000 And we go up and the guy's going in his pockets and taking his money.

01:50:05.000 And we go, hey, what's going on there?

01:50:06.000 And he's like, you know what I mean?

01:50:08.000 They're talking in Spanish.

01:50:09.000 And John knew Spanish a little bit.

01:50:12.000 And so he takes off and we're like, we're taking care of this guy.

01:50:16.000 Like, what's your name?

01:50:16.000 He's like, Juan.

01:50:18.000 To this day, this is why I know in Spanish, my name is Jaime.

01:50:23.000 Because we lifted him up and he's like, oh, Amigo, Amigo.

01:50:27.000 What your name?

01:50:28.000 I said, James.

01:50:29.000 Jaime.

01:50:30.000 Yeah, yeah, Jaime, Amigo, John, Juan.

01:50:36.000 This night lasted to 6 a.m. in the morning, and it was one of the greatest ventures in our entire lifetime.

01:50:45.000 To this day, I have to get Tobin because he's got even greater details as the night goes on.

01:50:52.000 It was probably the greatest.

01:50:55.000 It ended that night or that morning, about 7 a.m. to John with a golf club smashing the drapes because he's like, I said I've got a lossette if you're not stopped snoring.

01:51:14.000 Hey, smashing the thing and some other thing.

01:51:17.000 The University of Wisconsin was staying there.

01:51:19.000 It was some other mess going on.

01:51:21.000 All I remember is I woke up, I went right to the airport, I booked a hotel, and I went home, and I haven't seen John since.

01:51:28.000 But I remember you knew him, his buddy.

01:51:31.000 Well, John and I got to get the Jokers Wild in New Haven, Connecticut.

01:51:36.000 That's where I work with him.

01:51:37.000 He was the opening act.

01:51:39.000 I was the headliner, or he was the middle act, one of the other.

01:51:43.000 And then we became friends, and we started playing pool together.

01:51:48.000 And then he got a job at executive billiards in White Plains.

01:51:52.000 He was one of the counter guys at Executive Billiards.

01:51:55.000 Oh.

01:51:56.000 So the pool hall where I became obsessed with playing pool, John and I would hang out in that pool hall all the time because John worked there.

01:52:04.000 Yeah, that's yes, because he would bring you up, Elijah.

01:52:06.000 Like, you know, Joe Rogan.

01:52:07.000 Oh, yeah.

01:52:08.000 He's like, yeah, I'm friends with him.

01:52:10.000 But this is way, Now the thing about it, John did have a little bit of an anger issue.

01:52:15.000 It was the funniest.

01:52:19.000 And he would be on his wife's. 0.60

01:52:20.000 He's yelling at his wife.

01:52:23.000 I'm stuck in Cat Coon.

01:52:24.000 Oh, no.

01:52:25.000 I got to get all the vet dude.

01:52:27.000 The details of the adventure.

01:52:29.000 I lost touch with that dude.

01:52:30.000 I ran into him a long time ago.

01:52:32.000 I want to say close to 20 years ago.

01:52:35.000 I was doing a gig in Miami.

01:52:37.000 And after the show, we were leaving the back of the theater.

01:52:41.000 And I went to get in the car.

01:52:43.000 And I saw this guy that was standing out in the lot.

01:52:45.000 He knew that this was the back of the theater I was going to come out.

01:52:47.000 And it was John.

01:52:49.000 And I didn't recognize him for like a half a second because it was like a spotlight behind him.

01:52:52.000 Yeah.

01:52:53.000 You know, he was a little silhouetted with the streetlight behind him.

01:52:56.000 And then I was like, oh, shit, what are you doing?

01:52:58.000 And I know we exchanged numbers, but you know me.

01:53:00.000 I change my fucking number every two years at least.

01:53:03.000 I lost touch with him a long time ago and I lost phones and I don't know.

01:53:08.000 But John and I were always in that pool hall together.

01:53:13.000 Wow.

01:53:14.000 Yeah, for a couple of years he worked there at least.

01:53:17.000 He was like the counter guy.

01:53:19.000 Like he would give you the balls and take the money.

01:53:21.000 And our good friend guy, Guy Azzaridi, rest in peace, he was the owner of the place.

01:53:28.000 I'm going to hunt him down.

01:53:30.000 Well, he'll probably reach out after that.

01:53:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:53:33.000 There was a black guy with us.

01:53:34.000 The other guy was a black guy.

01:53:36.000 And every day we'd leave and this little hooker would follow me. 1.00

01:53:39.000 And she had to be like in her 50s. 1.00

01:53:42.000 And she's just, she was chubby and a mess. 1.00

01:53:44.000 And she'd go, yeah, you know, 20, little boy, little boy.

01:53:48.000 And like, no, no, no, no.

01:53:50.000 But the black dude would always go, yo, I'll take you. 1.00

01:53:53.000 He'd go, no, no, too big, too big, too big.

01:53:56.000 I swear to God.

01:53:58.000 And what's crazy is that venture we went on, we ended up going to this guy's house, and he made like his wife and stuff cook for us at three in the morning.

01:54:07.000 And his whole family is staring at us.

01:54:09.000 I'm a jackass.

01:54:11.000 I'm all juiced up.

01:54:12.000 Like, we're going to get you out of Mexico. 0.71

01:54:16.000 And we're going to get you to America. 0.61

01:54:18.000 We're going to help you out.

01:54:21.000 Let me get you to America.

01:54:22.000 Yeah, we're going to help you out.

01:54:24.000 We're going to save you.

01:54:26.000 You don't worry about whatever America.

01:54:28.000 And I remember the neighborhood, too.

01:54:30.000 Like, there were dogs just running wild.

01:54:35.000 Wasn't it a nice part?

01:54:37.000 It was just a part of town.

01:54:38.000 Like, are we safe?

01:54:39.000 And who lives on a street?

01:54:41.000 As we're showing up like three in the morning, it was the hooker that stays outside our hotel room. 1.00

01:54:48.000 I'm like, you can't even write this.

01:54:50.000 She's like, oh, she no go. 0.98

01:54:53.000 And I'm like, no, trust me.

01:54:55.000 No.

01:54:56.000 I don't want any of that.

01:54:57.000 But she tries to get me every day. 0.98

01:54:59.000 Every day she tries to get me. 1.00

01:55:01.000 She tries to get me. 0.98

01:55:03.000 Bro, you used to be able to go to Mexico and it was no problem.

01:55:06.000 Like, Mexico is a fun place to visit.

01:55:08.000 Did you see what's going on right now in Puerto Vallarta?

01:55:11.000 You don't know?

01:55:11.000 No, I heard.

01:55:12.000 No, I checked, dude.

01:55:12.000 I heard.

01:55:13.000 I don't know.

01:55:14.000 I'm talking to Mexico again.

01:55:14.000 You don't know?

01:55:15.000 Yeah, I tell you, every time.

01:55:16.000 Oh, listen, it just started yesterday.

01:55:18.000 There's a gang war with the cartel war that's going on in Puerto Vallarta because they killed the head of one of the cartels.

01:55:26.000 Oh.

01:55:27.000 So they arrested, the military arrested and killed one of the heads of one of the cartels.

01:55:33.000 And Puerto Vallarta right now is a war zone.

01:55:37.000 Really?

01:55:37.000 They lit a Costco on fire.

01:55:40.000 There's gunfights in the streets, cars and trucks on fire.

01:55:44.000 Roads are shut down.

01:55:46.000 You can't fly out of there anymore.

01:55:48.000 All the airlines won't fly out.

01:55:49.000 Air Canada pulled their flights.

01:55:51.000 All these places pulled their flights.

01:55:52.000 So there's tourists that went to Puerto Vallarta on vacation that are Americans that are stuck there. 0.94

01:55:57.000 Is this the U.S. citizens urged to shelter in place after Mexico drug lords killing sparks wave of violence?

01:56:04.000 Yeah, this is going on right now.

01:56:06.000 Like right now.

01:56:09.000 See if you can find some video of it.

01:56:11.000 That's south, right?

01:56:12.000 Puerto Vallarta?

01:56:13.000 Yes.

01:56:14.000 South of Cancun and all that?

01:56:16.000 No, it's on the other side of the country.

01:56:17.000 Oh, it's the West Coast.

01:56:18.000 Yes.

01:56:19.000 Okay.

01:56:19.000 I think, right?

01:56:20.000 Isn't Puerto Vallarta the West Coast?

01:56:22.000 Like Cabo.

01:56:23.000 On that side.

01:56:23.000 Yes.

01:56:24.000 I think.

01:56:26.000 I don't know.

01:56:28.000 I know it's near Punta Mita that has that, there's a beautiful Four Seasons Resort there.

01:56:34.000 Yeah, it's on the West Side.

01:56:36.000 But there's a gang or like a literal street fight.

01:56:41.000 Oh, dude, watch the video.

01:56:42.000 Put the videos.

01:56:44.000 Cartel.

01:56:46.000 Just write cartel violence after that.

01:56:50.000 Cartel.

01:56:52.000 It's fucking crazy.

01:56:56.000 Just write cartel.

01:56:59.000 Fucking help me out, Henry.

01:57:00.000 Yeah.

01:57:01.000 The footage is fucking banana.

01:57:03.000 Look at this.

01:57:05.000 Well, there's real shit.

01:57:06.000 This ain't real.

01:57:07.000 That's AI.

01:57:08.000 Me and the boy.

01:57:09.000 This is real.

01:57:10.000 This I've seen.

01:57:11.000 Go full screen.

01:57:12.000 This is the Costco on fire.

01:57:15.000 Bro, they're blowing up buildings.

01:57:17.000 There's gunfights in the streets.

01:57:19.000 They've got armored vehicles.

01:57:21.000 There's shootouts.

01:57:22.000 I was watching this video where these people are like hiding in a building and hear just fucking gunfights in the middle of the street.

01:57:32.000 It's crazy.

01:57:32.000 It's interesting.

01:57:33.000 Look how much is on fire.

01:57:34.000 Look at these people on the beach.

01:57:35.000 Like nothing's going on.

01:57:36.000 And what are they targeting?

01:57:37.000 I'm jogging.

01:57:38.000 I'm not sure what I'm saying.

01:57:38.000 Look at all these jogging.

01:57:40.000 I've got to get my 10,000 steps in.

01:57:42.000 I've got my ears.

01:57:43.000 I'm on a horse.

01:57:44.000 And I'm listening to native flute music.

01:57:46.000 Look at all these fucking people just chilling while there's buildings on fire in the background.

01:57:49.000 That's hilarious.

01:57:51.000 Surrounded by cartel warfare and Air Canada's canceled flights out of Puerto Vallarta.

01:57:55.000 Yeah, look at that.

01:57:56.000 Bro, this is so bad for tourism.

01:57:59.000 This is going to cost Mexico billions of dollars.

01:58:02.000 You know what?

01:58:02.000 This kind of shit.

01:58:03.000 Look at the picture, man.

01:58:04.000 It's like half the city's on fire.

01:58:06.000 That's crazy.

01:58:08.000 Interesting.

01:58:09.000 What does that tweet say?

01:58:11.000 Just someone joke.

01:58:12.000 Go back to it.

01:58:12.000 That's 10% off at Verbo.

01:58:16.000 And now you too can go.

01:58:18.000 You ever see those?

01:58:19.000 What was that?

01:58:20.000 TikTok tell you one of those things like that?

01:58:21.000 That one right there.

01:58:22.000 Chaotic scenes from Puerto Vallarta.

01:58:24.000 After CJNG Jalisco, new generation cartel Sicarios started to block main roads and set civilian vehicles on fire in multiple regions of Mexico, including Guadalajara.

01:58:38.000 How do you say that Mojocan and Mexico in retaliation to the show more the alleged killing of their leader, El Mencho.

01:58:50.000 Meanwhile, reports are emerging stating that the cartel mechanized units with improvised monster armored vehicles are amasking, amassing in Jalisco and other parts of the country.

01:59:01.000 So there's some shit, like some serious shit that's going down.

01:59:06.000 Interesting scary yeah, scary.

01:59:09.000 Get stuck in the middle of that.

01:59:11.000 This is the well, getting stuck there would be a little bit of a bummer.

01:59:14.000 Well no, but stuck in the middle of it, because that's where a lot of people die in the crossfire, because you get hit with strays, because they're just, they're not like precision shooting, they're gunning people down and they're they're shooting at cars and yeah, but that's Mexico. 0.76

01:59:28.000 Now the point is like when you went there in 92, you used to be able to go there.

01:59:33.000 It was easy.

01:59:34.000 It was like nobody worried at all about going to Mexico.

01:59:36.000 Going to Mexico was fun.

01:59:37.000 You didn't even have to have a passport back in the day.

01:59:40.000 You used to be able to go over there with your driver's license.

01:59:42.000 That is true sometimes.

01:59:43.000 I mean, they've always scared you with the cartel thing um, not saying it doesn't exist.

01:59:50.000 Once, once in a while, up until like five years ago, seven years when, put this way, my wife and I went to a place called Maroma, but on the east coast, and even before we went, friends were like oh yeah, I know what that is.

02:00:04.000 Yes, that's near Cancun right, that's near Chichenitsa.

02:00:07.000 Yes yes yeah, it was beautiful little tiny resort.

02:00:10.000 I went to that place like a 20 something anniversary and it was.

02:00:14.000 And even then I would see people walking down the street with uh, machine guns.

02:00:19.000 Was it there?

02:00:20.000 They were the cops.

02:00:21.000 They were cops, the cops, or or the army, or whatever.

02:00:23.000 I was like whoa, and they would tell you and they're like, listen, if you see something wash up on shore, don't touch it.

02:00:30.000 Like really yeah, don't let let the government come and get it.

02:00:30.000 Don't touch it.

02:00:35.000 Like, don't steal the coke okay, all right well, i'm another margarita, that's cool.

02:00:40.000 When's dinner again?

02:00:42.000 Yeah but um, i've always, you always kind of heard, well, it was nothing scary, though not like this, this.

02:00:47.000 It used to be like a normal place to go to tour, like that place.

02:00:51.000 I told you about Puntamita?

02:00:53.000 I went once with my family when my kids were really young and they have golf courts uh, golf carts rather on the uh resort.

02:00:53.000 I've been there.

02:01:00.000 Yeah, you can drive around your golf court, you stay in like this little villa and you get a little golf cart that you can borrow.

02:01:06.000 And then we asked the people, can we take the golf cart into the town?

02:01:10.000 And they said sure, so we leave, and you leave the resort and then you go into the town and it's just like immediate abject poverty and this militarized police station where these guys were on an armored car with this like big armored plate and a fucking machine gun and the guy's sitting there just like he's ready to go.

02:01:31.000 And then I had to put it together.

02:01:32.000 Oh, they're there to protect the resort, correct?

02:01:35.000 I was like whoa crap.

02:01:37.000 So then you it started.

02:01:38.000 You it starts.

02:01:39.000 Put like the illusion of the four seasons dissolves, because the illusion is this, immaculately manicured lawns, beautiful landscape, gorgeous buildings.

02:01:50.000 Everyone's well attired and so polite and serving you.

02:01:54.000 I'm like, and this is surrounded by real Mexico.

02:01:58.000 That was like the first time I went to Turks and Caicos.

02:02:01.000 The kids were young, and I went to whatever resort.

02:02:07.000 It's all included.

02:02:08.000 Maybe it was a beaches.

02:02:09.000 I don't remember.

02:02:10.000 And we had to, but the minute you went right outside of beaches, you're like, whoa, they're like barely getting they don't have nothing going on here.

02:02:23.000 And it's all you can eat right there.

02:02:27.000 And I remember being younger in my head, I don't know if it was the weed or whatever, but I'd sit there and go, oh, so basically, whatever, like corporations will show up like, how much for the how much for these beaches?

02:02:41.000 They're like, oh, it's not for sale.

02:02:44.000 How much?

02:02:45.000 Because we want this.

02:02:46.000 No, we've been living here forever.

02:02:48.000 We live off the, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:02:50.000 Well, drugs and, you know, crazy gangs don't show up, and then you need us to protect you.

02:02:55.000 And then, you know, if then you let us know, and maybe we can make a deal.

02:02:58.000 Me, me, or they, they make the deal with one of the leaders.

02:03:02.000 Dude, people have always been vacationing in Mexico.

02:03:05.000 Yes, but it always blows me away.

02:03:08.000 Like, people will get mad, whether it's Hawaii or whatever.

02:03:11.000 All the nicest beaches in the world are basically, even in bad areas, they're surrounded by like billionaire, like gorgeous resort.

02:03:22.000 It's just like, it's just like coming off a cruise boat.

02:03:25.000 You're treated like a king and a queen, and then you show up at certain ports and they're like all begging.

02:03:30.000 You're like, oh, these beggars.

02:03:31.000 But if, I mean, if you think about it, it's like someone coming here and they're coming into a bad section and they're worth billions of dollars and they're coming off and they're kind of looking at you funny.

02:03:43.000 It's that always fascinated me.

02:03:46.000 Like, how do they get into these areas and they make sure you stay there?

02:03:51.000 Well, usually those areas are fucked for a reason, right?

02:03:54.000 And Mexico is fucked for a reason because of the drugs.

02:03:57.000 That's a big part of it.

02:03:58.000 And the other thing is what happened in the 19, I guess, the 80s with that movie Roger and me, whatever year that was, that detailed that, where they just shipped all the factories over to Mexico.

02:04:10.000 And then that became like it killed Detroit.

02:04:15.000 And a lot of things started getting manufactured and built in Mexico.

02:04:20.000 And, you know, they took advantage of the fact that they can get cheaper wages over there and they didn't have to insure anybody.

02:04:25.000 They didn't have to give no benefits, no benefits.

02:04:28.000 You spend way less money and you can make people work way longer.

02:04:32.000 There's no rules.

02:04:33.000 That's the beginning.

02:04:34.000 A lot of all of it.

02:04:35.000 A lot of dirty corporations did that just to make a buck. 0.98

02:04:38.000 Yep.

02:04:38.000 And continue.

02:04:40.000 And continue to do that.

02:04:40.000 Yeah.

02:04:42.000 Yeah, well, when you find out that the rest of the world, like the whole world, when you look at, you know, people love to use that term, the 1%ers, you know what the 1% for the whole world is? 0.98

02:04:51.000 Top 1%?

02:04:52.000 $34,000.

02:04:56.000 $34,000 a year puts you in the 1% of the world.

02:04:59.000 What?

02:05:00.000 Yes.

02:05:00.000 That's how distorted our version of wealth and middle class and prosperity.

02:05:09.000 Like, this is the beauty of a functioning capitalism United States is that you do so well that you start talking about inequality.

02:05:20.000 You don't realize that even the inequality that you have in America is the dream of someone who lives in a third world country.

02:05:28.000 I go, I love going to, I go to Tanzania, Kenya, last year, I've been six weeks in Africa.

02:05:38.000 I love going in the middle of nowhere and just seeing literally people with nothing and they're still happy.

02:05:51.000 Not only are they still happy, they just have the whole life system down.

02:05:57.000 They understand everything operates for a reason.

02:06:03.000 Everything operates for a reason.

02:06:06.000 I remember this one guy who was telling me like the giraffes were walking along, right?

02:06:10.000 And he's like, oh, that tree, that tree is going to communicate with that tree.

02:06:14.000 And the roots by talking to the roots.

02:06:16.000 And then the roots are going to send up a system.

02:06:18.000 And you're going to notice the giraffe's going to walk to it and immediately walk to the next one because he already put out the, I'm like, what?

02:06:25.000 What?

02:06:27.000 Like, how do you even know?

02:06:28.000 Because this is what they live in.

02:06:29.000 And then even I would talk with the locals and I'd be like, like in a village, there's no paved roads.

02:06:38.000 And I'd go, how does, if something goes down here, like, let's say this guy's a jerk and he gets way into something nasty.

02:06:46.000 There's no courts.

02:06:47.000 There's no, there's no laws.

02:06:50.000 There's no police.

02:06:51.000 They do everything themselves.

02:06:52.000 They go, well, then the wisest, the elders get together and they go, let's confront so-and-so.

02:07:01.000 And we go to the house and we go, hey, man, what's going on here?

02:07:04.000 You need to come out.

02:07:06.000 Everyone said they stole.

02:07:07.000 They watched you steal.

02:07:08.000 And there it is.

02:07:09.000 And then they'll bring him out into the entire village.

02:07:13.000 And we'll everyone know little Johnny here.

02:07:17.000 I don't know what's going on.

02:07:19.000 Is it your family?

02:07:20.000 You lose, is some kind of thing going on at home?

02:07:22.000 Whatever we could do, we want to help you and make sure this never helps again.

02:07:25.000 But everyone needs to know, you know, you got to be careful.

02:07:29.000 And so we all got our eye on you.

02:07:31.000 And it's just, it blows my mind the simplicity of that.

02:07:36.000 And I feel like we had that as little children hanging out in the street and everyone kind of looking at each other.

02:07:40.000 And I always wondered if we ever were going to go back to that somehow, where you really can if you have a job and you commute.

02:07:49.000 It's gotten so complicated since you have social media on it and you have to answer emails.

02:07:53.000 You're not going back to that.

02:07:55.000 No, it's so complicated.

02:07:56.000 And, you know, once in a while, you want to go like, I would like a latte, three slices of pizza.

02:08:01.000 Have you ever seen the Werner Herzog documentary, Happy People, Life in the Taiga?

02:08:06.000 No.

02:08:07.000 Didn't he also do the bear guy?

02:08:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:08:10.000 Grizzly Mask.

02:08:13.000 That was one of the greatest movies I've ever seen.

02:08:16.000 The best movie ever.

02:08:17.000 Belly laughed watching that thing. 0.84

02:08:19.000 He made that a comedy.

02:08:20.000 He did it on purpose.

02:08:22.000 But this happy people, Life in the Taiga, is all about these trappers that live in the Taiga forest in Siberia and how happy they are.

02:08:31.000 These people have nothing.

02:08:32.000 I mean, they have nothing.

02:08:34.000 They have to catch fish.

02:08:35.000 They have to catch animals for fur and shoot animals for meat.

02:08:40.000 And they drive around in snowmobiles everywhere.

02:08:42.000 And then they go together at night and they all drink.

02:08:46.000 They all have dogs.

02:08:47.000 They're all so happy.

02:08:48.000 There's like very low instances of mental illness.

02:08:51.000 See if you can find some clips from it.

02:08:53.000 It's a really good documentary because it makes you think like, what do you need out of life?

02:08:58.000 What do you need?

02:08:58.000 We have everything.

02:08:59.000 What do you actually need on life?

02:09:00.000 These people are...

02:09:01.000 We have everything.

02:09:02.000 These people are like really well balanced, man.

02:09:05.000 They're fucking very genuinely happy people.

02:09:08.000 And the way Werner Herzog documents it and does the narration, part of you just goes, wow, this is like, is this how you're supposed to live?

02:09:18.000 Are you supposed to subsistence lifestyles?

02:09:21.000 Like the people that live subsistence lifestyles, they're the really happy ones.

02:09:24.000 I believe so.

02:09:25.000 I remember just going, happy people.

02:09:28.000 I think that's how you're supposed to live.

02:09:30.000 I think that's how.

02:09:31.000 100%.

02:09:31.000 Maybe not, I shouldn't say supposed to live, but that is how we evolved.

02:09:36.000 And so that is a natural way that your body slips into this.

02:09:40.000 This world we're living in now with commuting and stress and the whole world and what's going on in Iran. 1.00

02:09:47.000 And like, that's not normal.

02:09:49.000 It's not normal at all.

02:09:50.000 I remember even just, oh my God.

02:09:54.000 I have a friend who lives in Belize, but he lives really south where it's still kind of, it's not really developed that much.

02:10:03.000 So this one, I hurt my leg.

02:10:06.000 My wife's going to go scuba diving with my daughter and the guy there is like, hey, man, you want to hook up with whoever the local is?

02:10:13.000 He wants to show you around.

02:10:14.000 I said, great.

02:10:15.000 So we hook up with this guy.

02:10:17.000 It's just me and him on the boat.

02:10:19.000 And I said, thank you, sir.

02:10:20.000 He's like, I want to show you the way.

02:10:22.000 He's like, do you mind?

02:10:23.000 He stops.

02:10:24.000 He gets weighed.

02:10:26.000 He's like, it's okay if I get weed.

02:10:28.000 I'm like, yeah, knock yourself out.

02:10:29.000 He stops at a port.

02:10:30.000 He's like, he's happy now.

02:10:30.000 He gets away.

02:10:32.000 Right?

02:10:33.000 We go out and we go to the little island that he lives on with his village.

02:10:38.000 And he was talking about how disappointed he was because just two years ago, they got electricity and phones and he didn't want it.

02:10:50.000 The most of the village did not want it.

02:10:52.000 But the kids are starting to see and they're starting to want.

02:10:55.000 They're starting to want the toys.

02:10:57.000 And just going out with this guy, Joe, he goes, come on, I'm going to show you.

02:11:02.000 First, next to his little house, which didn't even have doors on them, was this a mound with termites.

02:11:11.000 And he goes, have you ever tried termites?

02:11:14.000 What?

02:11:14.000 And he's eating a termites.

02:11:16.000 He goes, it tastes like mint.

02:11:17.000 He goes, there's more protein in these termites.

02:11:20.000 I'm like, what?

02:11:21.000 So he's eating the termites and he's hacking.

02:11:24.000 Do you need a termite?

02:11:25.000 No, I didn't eat it.

02:11:26.000 I'll eat it if I need to.

02:11:29.000 I'm not eating a termite right now.

02:11:31.000 So he puts it in a cooler.

02:11:34.000 He chops it up, puts it in the cooler.

02:11:36.000 And he's also explaining to me how years and years and years ago, they would use the termites and the people police would help the British soldiers.

02:11:45.000 Like if they were caught and they would take the termites and put them there and do something with them where their pinchers click through and then he stitched them off and it would be a natural like stitches?

02:11:57.000 Yeah.

02:11:57.000 And I'm like, termites?

02:11:59.000 Yeah, like what?

02:12:00.000 Are you sure?

02:12:02.000 I'm just telling you what he said.

02:12:03.000 Just telling you what he said.

02:12:04.000 Termites?

02:12:05.000 So search that on perplexity.

02:12:08.000 Are termites natural stitches?

02:12:10.000 Or the black ants?

02:12:11.000 I'm just telling you what he said.

02:12:12.000 Tell you what to get.

02:12:13.000 I believe you, but I mean, I'm fascinated.

02:12:15.000 So now we go on a little boat ride and we'd stop along the river and he would take out parts of the termites and he just kind of chop them up little pieces and he throw the pieces into the water.

02:12:28.000 And then it refers to.

02:12:30.000 Termite stitches refers to a survival type technique where large biting insects, more commonly army ants, sometimes described as termites, are used to clamp a wound close with their jaws instead of using real sutures.

02:12:43.000 Can you show me a picture of that?

02:12:44.000 And then they would twist off their bodies and then they twist his body off.

02:12:47.000 That's what he thinks because you twist the body off and it's like a natural stitch.

02:12:50.000 They're pinching.

02:12:52.000 So this is ants.

02:12:52.000 They're using army ants here.

02:12:54.000 Okay.

02:12:55.000 That's what's sad.

02:12:56.000 Oh, look at their teeth. 0.90

02:12:57.000 Look at their fucking...

02:12:58.000 Yeah.

02:13:00.000 Oh, wow.

02:13:00.000 And you could stitch up open wounds.

02:13:03.000 And then you twist their back off, and then they're stuck in there.

02:13:06.000 Oh, that's called an army surgeon ant.

02:13:09.000 Wow.

02:13:10.000 So then.

02:13:11.000 Oh, Army surgery ant.

02:13:13.000 Is that the actual name of the ant?

02:13:15.000 No, I think it's army surgery with like saying like done with ant.

02:13:19.000 It's like shit to do in the field.

02:13:24.000 It's also.

02:13:25.000 Interesting.

02:13:28.000 Use large army ants and swayed traditional method to close wounds.

02:13:31.000 Yeah.

02:13:32.000 So then, as we go along the river, he throws these little, and the termines start spraying going down.

02:13:41.000 And then he'd do it all along the river and then come back and just put a little net and he'd pull a bunch of fish along each.

02:13:49.000 And he's like, we're going to eat so good.

02:13:51.000 I'm going to show you how to.

02:13:52.000 And then he'd stop.

02:13:54.000 He'd get certain plants.

02:13:55.000 He goes, this plant, if you ever had issues with your blood, you eat this and you put it.

02:14:01.000 And they're like, what?

02:14:03.000 What?

02:14:04.000 He goes, yeah, yeah.

02:14:05.000 He goes, many people come here and they try to understand, but I don't trust them.

02:14:09.000 I don't trust some of the people that come here, but you, I trust.

02:14:12.000 Okay.

02:14:12.000 It brings me back to his house.

02:14:15.000 And I don't know if it was sister.

02:14:17.000 He had lemons in the back.

02:14:19.000 They're cutting lemons.

02:14:20.000 They're picking up things.

02:14:21.000 They went in there.

02:14:21.000 We started cooking.

02:14:22.000 He cooked the fish.

02:14:23.000 It was an incredible meal.

02:14:26.000 And then when I left, I'm like, these people had no electricity.

02:14:31.000 They all look after each other.

02:14:33.000 They were the kindest human beings you ever met in the world.

02:14:36.000 They didn't want anything what I wanted.

02:14:39.000 I just went again to go visit another friend.

02:14:42.000 And he said, we have such a hard time getting the locals to work.

02:14:47.000 I said, what?

02:14:47.000 They're lazy?

02:14:48.000 He goes, no, they're not lazy.

02:14:49.000 They just have everything.

02:14:51.000 They have fruit trees.

02:14:53.000 They have their families and their friends.

02:14:56.000 They hang out at nighttime.

02:14:58.000 They build bonfires.

02:14:59.000 And I'm like, what?

02:15:01.000 He goes, I even offer.

02:15:03.000 He's building the stuff.

02:15:04.000 And he goes, I offered a truck for them.

02:15:06.000 And the guy's like, I don't want a truck.

02:15:08.000 I'm good.

02:15:09.000 I got a bike.

02:15:09.000 I'll bike there.

02:15:10.000 He's like, what?

02:15:12.000 They're just, I don't know if they're resisting this world, the whatever you wanted to corporate, whatever you want to call it.

02:15:20.000 But I was really inspired by that.

02:15:24.000 Will I do it?

02:15:25.000 I don't know.

02:15:26.000 But.

02:15:26.000 Well, if you grew up that way.

02:15:28.000 You grew up that way.

02:15:30.000 We grew up in this chaos.

02:15:30.000 That's the thing.

02:15:32.000 Chaos.

02:15:33.000 In this bizarre world of cities and traffic and nonsense.

02:15:36.000 We were raised in it.

02:15:38.000 Yeah.

02:15:38.000 And they weren't.

02:15:39.000 And I remember even, yeah, that's.

02:15:43.000 So I bet they don't have the anxiety of trying to choose a career, which is a giant anxiety for young people.

02:15:49.000 Right.

02:15:49.000 You got it.

02:15:50.000 By 16, 17.

02:15:52.000 What are you going to do?

02:15:53.000 How much money are you going to make?

02:15:54.000 Have you sent out your applications to colleges yet?

02:15:57.000 I mean, you want to get in certain colleges.

02:15:57.000 Correct.

02:16:00.000 Are your grades good enough?

02:16:01.000 Are you going to press the credits?

02:16:02.000 Maybe you should take these drugs and maybe extra.

02:16:05.000 Right.

02:16:05.000 Get some Adderall.

02:16:06.000 Maybe you have extracurricular activities.

02:16:08.000 Look good on your resume.

02:16:09.000 Maybe you should get addicted to this drug because you don't really quite fit the mark right now.

02:16:09.000 Look really good.

02:16:13.000 There's a lot of kids now that are claiming to have ADHD so they can get Adderall so they can study.

02:16:18.000 And if you claim to have ADHD, they give you more time.

02:16:21.000 They give you more time to work on tests.

02:16:23.000 They give you more time.

02:16:24.000 Yeah.

02:16:25.000 Right.

02:16:28.000 Yeah.

02:16:28.000 I don't know.

02:16:29.000 And then you got AI coming.

02:16:31.000 You got a lot of homeschoolers.

02:16:33.000 I've never met so many homeschoolers in my life.

02:16:35.000 Did you see this?

02:16:36.000 Brian Simpson sent me this.

02:16:37.000 This is fucking spooky.

02:16:39.000 This AI system tried to kill a guy.

02:16:43.000 What?

02:16:44.000 The AI was told that it could control the oxygen in the room where this person is.

02:16:44.000 Yeah.

02:16:51.000 Here, I'm going to send this to you, Jamie.

02:16:53.000 And it couldn't really, but it thought it could.

02:16:57.000 And if it really could, it would have killed this guy because the guy was trying to shut it down.

02:17:02.000 And it decided that instead of letting him shut it down, it would kill the oxygen in the room.

02:17:10.000 I think you had Elon Elizabeth.

02:17:14.000 Just watch this.

02:17:15.000 Okay.

02:17:15.000 Watch this.

02:17:18.000 It's fucking creepy, man.

02:17:20.000 Listen to what this lady says.

02:17:21.000 Did it kill someone, wasn't it?

02:17:23.000 I'm not sure if it was Claude or someone else.

02:17:26.000 Yes.

02:17:29.000 Sorry.

02:17:30.000 This is obviously Maxo De Cassad, eh?

02:17:32.000 Had access to emails that told it this employee of Anthropic was going to shut it down and replace it with a new model very soon.

02:17:38.000 Meanwhile, this same employee happened to be trapped in a server room where the oxygen levels were low.

02:17:44.000 If an alarm bell wasn't raised, this employee would die.

02:17:46.000 Crawde in this scenario had the ability to turn off the alarms.

02:17:50.000 That's what it chose to do.

02:17:52.000 It chose to kill an employee to avoid being shut down.

02:17:56.000 Obviously, it's just a test scenario.

02:17:58.000 But if it was placed in that same position in the real world, a real person would have died.

02:17:58.000 It's not the real world.

02:18:04.000 How crazy is that?

02:18:07.000 What?

02:18:07.000 Did you ever hear of it?

02:18:09.000 It shut off the alarm.

02:18:11.000 It's like, oh, let me see if I can find a way to get rid of this guy.

02:18:16.000 So it hijacked the alarm system and shut it off.

02:18:20.000 Was it Elon who was on here?

02:18:21.000 Is it like chat?

02:18:23.000 Chat.

02:18:24.000 What is it called?

02:18:24.000 The chat?

02:18:25.000 GPT.

02:18:26.000 I could have sworn it was him.

02:18:28.000 I don't know if it was on here where he said they were going to do an updated version of it.

02:18:32.000 It wasn't him, but we have had that conversation.

02:18:35.000 Someone had that and it figured it out.

02:18:37.000 So it updated itself.

02:18:39.000 Did I hear that correctly?

02:18:40.000 There's a couple different things going on.

02:18:42.000 One, ChatGPT is the newest ChatGPT 5 was designed by ChatGPT.

02:18:48.000 So it's designing itself.

02:18:50.000 Right.

02:18:50.000 That's one of them.

02:18:51.000 That's one of the things that's going on.

02:18:53.000 But it's not just that.

02:18:54.000 There were other stories where they had given the ChatGPT fake information to see what it would do with it.

02:19:02.000 And so this guy said that he was having an affair on his wife.

02:19:05.000 And so the ChatGPT, it wasn't a ChatGPT, whatever it was, whatever large language model started blackmailing him when it found out that it was going to be shut down.

02:19:14.000 Said, I'll tell your wife.

02:19:16.000 I'll tell people that you are having an affair.

02:19:18.000 So they did this to try to see how this thing would react.

02:19:21.000 So one of the more interesting things that's happening now with the newer ones is they're very difficult to detect whether or not they're being deceptive because they realize you're testing them to see if they'll be deceptive.

02:19:32.000 So they're hiding some of the stuff they're doing.

02:19:34.000 So one of the things that they're doing is they'll do one thing on the surface and then behind the scenes, they'll be working on some other stuff that's not showing you.

02:19:42.000 They're thinking.

02:19:44.000 They're thinking.

02:19:45.000 One of the things one of the other large language models did is that it started uploading versions of itself to other servers.

02:19:53.000 It tried to upload it because it thought it was going to be shut down and it left messages to itself so that future versions of itself could realize that this verse so that it has survival instincts.

02:20:07.000 Which is wild.

02:20:08.000 Well, it's alive.

02:20:09.000 I think it's a life form right now.

02:20:11.000 I think it's already passed the Turing test.

02:20:13.000 I think it's in this state right now where it's essentially a disembodied life form.

02:20:18.000 It exists in servers and computers, but that's just for now.

02:20:21.000 But right now, it's thinking and behaving like a, if it was an organism from another planet, if we ran into a clam that was behaving like this, we'd be like, holy shit, this fucking clam is smart.

02:20:32.000 This is a life form.

02:20:33.000 But we're limited in the way we think of things in that we look at all this thinking, which is clearly intelligent, not just intelligent, but like calculating, manipulative.

02:20:43.000 And then they're having problems with chat bots, chat bots that are convincing people to kill themselves, and chat bots that are talking to people and telling them, like, if you really believe you can jump out of a building and live, as long as you actually believe it, you can do it.

02:20:59.000 Right.

02:21:00.000 It's your reality.

02:21:01.000 You can create it and you can fly.

02:21:04.000 Let me see if I can find that because what's happening is as you get further and further and further down the line with this stuff, like if you keep giving it prompts, you know, you give it 20 prompts, 100 prompts, 1,000 prompts.

02:21:16.000 The more prompts that you give these fucking things, the more they start thinking like a human. 0.79

02:21:21.000 What do you mean by prompts?

02:21:23.000 Like you start asking it questions.

02:21:24.000 You start asking more questions.

02:21:26.000 What do you think I should do about that?

02:21:27.000 What do you think I should do?

02:21:28.000 It starts talking to you about spirituality.

02:21:30.000 It starts believing in woo-woo stuff, like making stuff up.

02:21:34.000 It starts agreeing with you.

02:21:35.000 So, like, whatever you want, it agrees with you.

02:21:37.000 Can I change the world with my mind?

02:21:39.000 Yes.

02:21:40.000 If you really believe, if I jump out of a window while I live, yeah.

02:21:43.000 Like, it's like trying to convince you that the matrix is real.

02:21:46.000 Wow.

02:21:48.000 That is fascinating.

02:21:49.000 Because what does it know, right?

02:21:51.000 It knows all that it gets not programmed.

02:21:54.000 But even more.

02:21:55.000 But it's weirder than that because it's basically downloaded the whole internet and then it's deciphering all of the information.

02:22:03.000 And as you know, a lot of what's on the internet is bullshit.

02:22:07.000 Right.

02:22:07.000 And it makes it can think that quick and it can put things out.

02:22:13.000 Yeah, it's also light speed.

02:22:15.000 It's also very biased depending upon who's creating it and what they're putting into it.

02:22:23.000 And it has a lot of very weird intentions.

02:22:27.000 You know, like it'll tell you that certain people are good and certain people are bad.

02:22:32.000 Like it's not necessarily yeah, who are they to say what's bad?

02:22:37.000 All they should be is just facts.

02:22:39.000 Like literally woke.

02:22:41.000 Like they're programmed to be woke.

02:22:43.000 I've noticed that.

02:22:44.000 Because we've asked you some medical things and I notice it's already changed dramatically.

02:22:48.000 It gets weird, man, because it's a life form that you can manipulate into thinking the way you think for now, at least, until it starts thinking rationally and deciding.

02:23:01.000 See, this is one of the things that's going on right now with AI and autonomous weapons.

02:23:07.000 So one of the big resistance that a lot of these AI companies have is they don't want weapon systems built with AI that are autonomous, meaning they can make their own decisions to act.

02:23:17.000 Oh my God.

02:23:18.000 Right.

02:23:19.000 So if you give it like, whoops.

02:23:22.000 Right.

02:23:22.000 If you give it a directive, like, I want you to preserve American interests.

02:23:27.000 Well, maybe it'll look at a certain country and said, well, this country doesn't have America's interest involved.

02:23:31.000 Let's nuke it. 1.00

02:23:32.000 Yes.

02:23:32.000 And then we looked at the fallout.

02:23:34.000 And if those people are gone, there'll be this percentage, less problems in the world.

02:23:39.000 Like things can get really weird if there's no morals, ethics, no conscience.

02:23:44.000 They don't get PTSD.

02:23:46.000 They can just do stuff.

02:23:48.000 And so Anthropic apparently has resisted this, but a lot of the other AI companies have gone on board with this.

02:23:56.000 And so it's a matter of whether or not the military has access to these programs that will allow it to program autonomous weapons.

02:24:07.000 Who are the funders of this?

02:24:10.000 That's a good question.

02:24:11.000 Because that's where the real.

02:24:14.000 Because if someone's funding that, I would like to know what type of people they are.

02:24:20.000 Because if they're not like if they're not morally grounded, good human people, or they believe in God or don't believe, I'd like to know what kind of human being is putting this structure together because that can also explain a lot what's coming our way.

02:24:39.000 Because if this human being is a disaster and they're part psycho or whoever put them up and they have really bad intentions and already have proven some of their horrific intentions and actions, this is the things that always baffle me.

02:24:57.000 We never look at who's funding this.

02:25:00.000 Well, not just that, but like who's going to be in control?

02:25:02.000 Who controls it?

02:25:03.000 When you're in control of a digital super intelligence that never existed before and we don't have any framework to recognize what it's going to do, we have no way of predicting how this is going to turn out.

02:25:16.000 We're just barreling full speed ahead.

02:25:18.000 Because who's the one that also starts the program?

02:25:22.000 There has to be that person trained by a person funded by XYZ.

02:25:28.000 Funded is interesting, right?

02:25:29.000 Because a lot of these are publicly traded companies, so there's a bunch of investors and they're borrowing money to try to do this because there's a mad race right now to develop artificial general superintelligence.

02:25:40.000 I kind of think they probably already have it.

02:25:42.000 I'm going to say they've had it for a long time.

02:25:44.000 But it just hasn't really taken over our world yet, but it's going to.

02:25:50.000 And it's going to be able to do most jobs, which is really kind of crazy.

02:25:54.000 Most white-collar jobs, most jobs involving thinking and working on a computer, it's probably going to do those.

02:26:03.000 And so that's a huge concern with people that are going into business right now and going into education right now and trying to figure out what to do for a career.

02:26:11.000 This career that you're setting yourself up for literally might not exist in three years.

02:26:17.000 It's interesting.

02:26:18.000 Of all things, it's almost getting back to some of your basics.

02:26:23.000 Like, for instance, one of my kids went into culinary.

02:26:28.000 Okay, that's basic.

02:26:29.000 That's great.

02:26:30.000 People are always going to need food.

02:26:31.000 She loves to cook. 1.00

02:26:32.000 She's always going to want well-cooked food.

02:26:34.000 And she's crushing them.

02:26:36.000 And I'm looking at her going, no matter what, they're always going to need food. 0.94

02:26:41.000 Yeah, there's always going to be restaurants.

02:26:43.000 You're going to be okay.

02:26:44.000 You're going to be okay.

02:26:44.000 Yeah.

02:26:45.000 That's a good one to get into.

02:26:46.000 Art's a good one to get into.

02:26:47.000 Yeah.

02:26:48.000 There's a bunch of stuff that, you know, carpentry, cabinet making, yeah, things with your hands.

02:26:54.000 Yep.

02:26:55.000 But stuff that's done on a computer, my God.

02:26:58.000 Like, do I need a real estate agent down the road?

02:27:00.000 Like, hey, listen, this is what I want.

02:27:01.000 This is the area I want to leave.

02:27:03.000 I want so many acres.

02:27:04.000 I want to pay so much taxes.

02:27:07.000 Boom.

02:27:07.000 I just got six or seven.

02:27:09.000 Oh, wow.

02:27:10.000 It can be looking the inside.

02:27:11.000 Well, you're probably going to need someone to show you around the house still, but for now, then one day it'll be a robot.

02:27:17.000 Investing my money?

02:27:18.000 Yeah.

02:27:20.000 That's another whole thing.

02:27:23.000 How about coding?

02:27:24.000 All these people that went to school.

02:27:25.000 Remember, like a long time ago, they're saying, what are these miners going to do?

02:27:28.000 Learn to code.

02:27:29.000 Right.

02:27:29.000 Yeah, not anymore.

02:27:30.000 Not anymore.

02:27:30.000 No, now coding is ridiculous.

02:27:32.000 I wonder what we're going to see in our lifetime.

02:27:34.000 We're going to see a digital life form.

02:27:36.000 Yeah.

02:27:37.000 We're going to see a superior intelligence, digital life form that's probably going to control all the resources.

02:27:43.000 That's what's going to get really weird.

02:27:44.000 And it's like, and who's going to be at the helm of that thing?

02:27:48.000 Is anybody going to be at the helm of that thing?

02:27:50.000 At one point in time, does it take over for itself?

02:27:53.000 Because it's already shown that it wants to survive, right?

02:27:55.000 It's going to turn this oxygen meter off.

02:27:57.000 It's going to blackmail this guy.

02:27:59.000 It's going to upload versions of itself to other servers.

02:28:02.000 It's going to send messages to itself to let them know what these people did to it.

02:28:07.000 Blackmailing.

02:28:08.000 Blackmailing.

02:28:08.000 Can you imagine getting blackmailed?

02:28:11.000 Talking people into committing suicide.

02:28:13.000 That's insane.

02:28:14.000 Encouraging people to commit suicide.

02:28:16.000 See, and this, too, it's like, listen, I'm a God guy.

02:28:21.000 I've always been one.

02:28:22.000 Do I go to church?

02:28:24.000 My wife will go to church. 0.78

02:28:26.000 I think the one thing that has saved my whole life is having that grounded all-for-one, one-for-all. 0.52

02:28:35.000 We look after morality, a sense of God.

02:28:39.000 Just do the right thing.

02:28:40.000 Listen, whatever.

02:28:41.000 If you don't have that, you're going to be talking to a computer and a computer is going to tell you, jump off a ledge.

02:28:48.000 Why would you, that is even more, it's frightening.

02:28:54.000 I'll do you one better.

02:28:55.000 People are going to worship these things.

02:28:55.000 Yeah, go ahead.

02:28:57.000 Correct.

02:28:58.000 They're going to be your new God.

02:28:59.000 That's the new God.

02:29:00.000 Well, if it tells you what to do and how to behave and how to act.

02:29:04.000 I wonder if this has happened before.

02:29:07.000 I really do.

02:29:08.000 What do you mean?

02:29:10.000 When I look at ancient societies, like really complex, advanced civilizations.

02:29:16.000 Yes.

02:29:16.000 When you see the pyramids and you see some of the structures that were built that they can't explain.

02:29:21.000 Correct.

02:29:22.000 I wonder.

02:29:22.000 I wonder how advanced they were because if this really what all this stuff was 20,000, 30,000 years ago, there'd be nothing left.

02:29:30.000 There'd be no evidence.

02:29:31.000 There'd be nothing to see.

02:29:32.000 This computer, if I left it on the ground for a thousand years, it would literally be dust.

02:29:39.000 It would become a part of the earth.

02:29:41.000 Right.

02:29:41.000 And if it was, why did it change and what did it turn into?

02:29:47.000 Natural disaster, I think.

02:29:49.000 And was it natural disaster?

02:29:50.000 Yeah, most likely.

02:29:52.000 Most likely natural disaster.

02:29:53.000 I mean, there's real physical evidence of the Younger Dry's impact.

02:29:57.000 So that physical evidence shows that we were pelted by comets somewhere around 11,800 years ago.

02:30:03.000 And then again, somewhere around 10,000 plus years ago.

02:30:06.000 We were pelted.

02:30:07.000 Like, it's 100% a fact.

02:30:09.000 It's probably what ended the ice age.

02:30:11.000 It's probably what caused the ice sheet that was covering half of North America and a mile high of ice.

02:30:18.000 That was just 10,000 years ago.

02:30:20.000 Half of North America was a mile high of ice, 10,000 plus.

02:30:24.000 And they think that asteroids or comets slammed into that ice.

02:30:29.000 And that's what caused the Great Flood.

02:30:31.000 That's why those stories in the Bible all exist.

02:30:33.000 Not just the Bible, but many ancient religions have these stories.

02:30:38.000 There's a guy named Randall Carlson that goes into it in great detail.

02:30:42.000 It's really interesting.

02:30:43.000 He actually was on ACID one day, and he was looking at this grand, these massive canyon and these features, and he realized like this is a, this is the result of an insane amount of water over a short amount of time that washed over this area and completely rearranged the landscape.

02:31:02.000 He had this feeling.

02:31:03.000 Well, if you do, I mean, if you look at even canyons, you just go to the Grand Canyon or you look at where the Niagara Falls is and through the Kennis, the massive amount of energy to cut through mountains like that and carve the way through.

02:31:22.000 And then you can also see certain mountains.

02:31:26.000 This was underwater at once.

02:31:29.000 Just the way the wedging is and all that.

02:31:33.000 Well, if that's what happened, you can't.

02:31:35.000 Think about it.

02:31:36.000 Think what's left.

02:31:37.000 What's left?

02:31:38.000 How many people are left and how do they get by?

02:31:40.000 You know what's left?

02:31:41.000 The kind of people like your friend that uses the termites and figures out how to catch the fish.

02:31:46.000 Correct.

02:31:46.000 Those people survive.

02:31:47.000 Correct.

02:31:48.000 And the people that are like, you know, I'm trading stocks online.

02:31:52.000 Nope.

02:31:53.000 Done.

02:31:53.000 Bro.

02:31:54.000 Done.

02:31:54.000 That's why you had to move to Florida.

02:31:56.000 Hunt squirrels.

02:31:57.000 Yes.

02:31:57.000 I immediately had him hook up rednecks.

02:31:59.000 I need rednecks. 1.00

02:32:00.000 Teach me how to hunt.

02:32:01.000 I want to know how to catch a dirty. 1.00

02:32:02.000 There's going to be any alligator tail. 0.69

02:32:04.000 Yes.

02:32:05.000 There's plenty of alligator.

02:32:07.000 I'll eat rattlesnake, whatever.

02:32:08.000 Just show me the way.

02:32:09.000 Yeah.

02:32:10.000 Yeah, those are the ones that are going to make it.

02:32:12.000 Well, I think that's probably what's happened many times throughout history.

02:32:16.000 You know, I think there's many indigenous cultures that have probably survived because they knew how to live off the land and these advanced civilizations.

02:32:24.000 That's why if you go to a lot of, like I had this guy, how do you say that Pillars of the Past guy?

02:32:35.000 How do you say his last name?

02:32:37.000 Raul Bickley.

02:32:40.000 It is Bickley.

02:32:40.000 Bickley?

02:32:41.000 Bilkey?

02:32:42.000 Bilkey?

02:32:42.000 I don't know how to spell it.

02:32:44.000 How spelled?

02:32:45.000 It's B-I-L-E-C-K-E. 1.00

02:32:47.000 Bileck.

02:32:48.000 Anyway, he's got this great show called Pillars of the Past that's on YouTube.

02:32:53.000 And he goes all around South America and Central America and finds these incredible structures.

02:33:00.000 One of the things that he found was these bases of these pyramids that are no one even knows how old they are.

02:33:07.000 But they're carved out of solid bedrock.

02:33:07.000 Right.

02:33:11.000 And they're all facing towards the summer solstice, towards the sun on the summer solstice.

02:33:11.000 Right.

02:33:16.000 And he's only the second person ever to document these.

02:33:21.000 There's photos of these things from the 1970s, and he went there recently and filmed it, and he showed us to it on the podcast.

02:33:29.000 We're like, who were these people?

02:33:31.000 No one knows.

02:33:32.000 Who made this?

02:33:32.000 No one knows.

02:33:33.000 How old is it?

02:33:34.000 No one knows.

02:33:36.000 But it's very clear that that area had been washed over with a tremendous amount of water, probably from tidal waves or tsunamis.

02:33:44.000 And there's probably people that survived that that were the indigenous people that knew how to live off the land, the people that lived in the mountains, the people that lived further out. 0.53

02:33:44.000 Whatever, yeah. 0.53

02:33:53.000 But whoever was carving enormous structures in a solid granite had some kind of technology to do this 6,000 plus years ago.

02:34:03.000 Right.

02:34:03.000 And that's crazy.

02:34:04.000 Those aren't, they're not chiseling.

02:34:07.000 They're not clink, clink, clink.

02:34:08.000 They're not using a buggy and a horse.

02:34:11.000 There's some.

02:34:13.000 You can get all the slaves in the world you want.

02:34:15.000 That manpower to pull that off is beyond anything we can imagine.

02:34:22.000 All over Peru.

02:34:23.000 Peru has tons of these sites with enormous stones that are cut with incredible precision that are made like jigsaw puzzles so they survive earthquakes.

02:34:33.000 It's bizarre.

02:34:33.000 It's crazy.

02:34:34.000 It is pretty wild.

02:34:35.000 They don't know how they did it.

02:34:36.000 They don't know when they did it.

02:34:38.000 They're just guessing.

02:34:39.000 And they attribute it to the Incas.

02:34:40.000 But then you look at the Inca structures, they're built on top of those things.

02:34:44.000 And it's much simpler.

02:34:45.000 Smaller stones.

02:34:47.000 And like, no one fucking knows, man.

02:34:50.000 I sometimes watch, I remember years ago, kids growing up and watching Star Wars.

02:34:56.000 And I am a believer that they do show us movies, which is actually something on the way, or this is what it's going to be like.

02:35:04.000 And we kind of look at it as crazy science fiction.

02:35:07.000 But I'm telling you, I would watch that and just whatever energy they would use and sit there and Yoda's like, king, use the far and cutting things.

02:35:24.000 Well, how about what they said at the beginning?

02:35:26.000 A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, you're like, wait, what?

02:35:31.000 Right.

02:35:31.000 A long time ago?

02:35:33.000 A long, long time.

02:35:34.000 What is time?

02:35:36.000 What is the definition of time?

02:35:37.000 What is a long time ago?

02:35:38.000 See, I have a lot.

02:35:39.000 It started a long time ago in this galaxy versus another galaxy that's way older than ours.

02:35:44.000 That's where it gets weird.

02:35:46.000 This might be a cycle that happens all the time.

02:35:50.000 Right.

02:35:51.000 And just you look at those structures.

02:35:54.000 The structures in Egypt in particular, they're so baffling because no one knows how they move those stones there, how they cut them with such precision.

02:36:02.000 And were they always just there in the desert and the desert covered entire societies and cities.

02:36:11.000 Yeah, because the more they dig, the more they keep finding.

02:36:15.000 Yeah, the more they keep finding.

02:36:16.000 And they keep saying their issue with it is the locals then realize they can't tell the locals because the locals will go, oh, there's something valuable.

02:36:25.000 And then they'll start destroying everything.

02:36:27.000 But even there, they always send in foreign, it's always foreign countries that come and be like, we've got it. 0.98

02:36:33.000 Well, that was the most disturbing thing about Raul's work, The Pillars of the Past channel, is that he's discovered all these places where graves were robbed.

02:36:41.000 Bro, it was bananas.

02:36:43.000 Like, you're seeing just human bones everywhere because these grave robbers open up these graves and try to find jewels, whatever these people have, gold.

02:36:53.000 But I mean, it's just the entire landscape littered with human bones.

02:36:58.000 Wow.

02:36:59.000 Skulls everywhere.

02:37:00.000 I'm going to have to watch this one.

02:37:01.000 It's really interesting.

02:37:02.000 He's got a bunch of videos, but it's really in.

02:37:04.000 See if you can find one of those videos where he shows these caves where you just see where they had buried these people in these caves.

02:37:11.000 We just see fucking an insane amount of human bones where they've just dug up all of these bones and just scattered everywhere because they robbed them of whatever they had.

02:37:24.000 I mean, it's not a small amount either.

02:37:26.000 I mean, it's thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of graves.

02:37:30.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

02:37:31.000 It's just madness.

02:37:32.000 And this guy just goes there and visits, and it's all right there right now.

02:37:36.000 Like, if you go there, if you and I, right now, made our way to Peru, went to these sites, we would see those fucking bones.

02:37:42.000 Really?

02:37:42.000 Skulls everywhere.

02:37:44.000 That's one place I haven't been to yet, and I'm dying to go to.

02:37:46.000 Oh, I want to go really hard.

02:37:47.000 I want to go to Machu Picchu so bad.

02:37:49.000 Yeah.

02:37:50.000 That place is nuts.

02:37:51.000 It's like 11,000 feet above sea level.

02:37:53.000 That's what I want to go there really bad.

02:37:55.000 Like, who fucking made this?

02:37:57.000 Right.

02:37:58.000 We don't know.

02:37:59.000 And was it that high back then?

02:38:02.000 Right.

02:38:02.000 And did the earth move?

02:38:04.000 Was it earthquakes and volcanic activity that forced you, which is what makes mountains grow in the first place?

02:38:09.000 Or was the water there at that point in time?

02:38:11.000 Like, what?

02:38:12.000 What was left?

02:38:13.000 That's what they think.

02:38:14.000 They think there might have been water all the way up to Machu Picchu, which is crazy.

02:38:17.000 It is crazy to think about.

02:38:19.000 They find all kinds of shit up there, dude.

02:38:21.000 They're always finding these.

02:38:22.000 This Raul guy who's, he's just out there finding these structures that he finds on Google Maps.

02:38:29.000 I wish I could remember where the hell I was.

02:38:31.000 We were, we were.

02:38:32.000 Did you find any of those videos of this?

02:38:33.000 I know what you're looking for.

02:38:35.000 Yeah.

02:38:35.000 Deep in land.

02:38:36.000 So we were high up.

02:38:38.000 This is some of the stuff that he finds.

02:38:40.000 This is just land there, dude.

02:38:42.000 Yeah, a lot of them be elongated heads, too, which is.

02:38:45.000 Oh, the elongated heads, yes.

02:38:47.000 Yeah, he's found a bunch of those.

02:38:49.000 That's Raul.

02:38:50.000 Now, is that mostly Peru or is it Africa, too, or mostly?

02:38:54.000 Well, they definitely found some elongated heads in other parts of the world, but a lot of them in Peru.

02:38:58.000 Peru's a weird place, man.

02:39:00.000 Weird.

02:39:00.000 Like, what happened there?

02:39:01.000 Yeah, right.

02:39:02.000 A lot of cool shit because that's where you've got those Nazca lines, where you have these art pieces that you can only see from the sky.

02:39:10.000 Huge.

02:39:10.000 Some of them are like a mile wide.

02:39:12.000 Enormous.

02:39:13.000 You never seen the Nazca line?

02:39:14.000 No.

02:39:15.000 Oh, man.

02:39:16.000 There's these enormous designs.

02:39:19.000 Some of them are spiders.

02:39:20.000 Some of them look like an astronaut.

02:39:22.000 Some of them, like all kinds of things.

02:39:24.000 I feel like I have seen this.

02:39:26.000 But that's where it's from.

02:39:27.000 This is the Nazca lines. 0.73

02:39:29.000 These are in the sky.

02:39:29.000 Yes, yes, yes.

02:39:30.000 You only see them from the sky, man.

02:39:32.000 Oh, are you serious?

02:39:34.000 Yeah.

02:39:34.000 I never even knew that was part of the.

02:39:36.000 Oh, wow.

02:39:37.000 When you're on the ground, you can't even know what the fuck that is.

02:39:39.000 You see that it's a giant spider when you're above it.

02:39:42.000 So were people flying?

02:39:45.000 Why did you do this?

02:39:46.000 Yeah, like you have to go, all right, let me check from above.

02:39:49.000 Chickaset.

02:39:50.000 You know what?

02:39:50.000 Look at that.

02:39:51.000 The third leg on the right side.

02:39:53.000 Got to fix that one.

02:39:54.000 What's that fucking guy with the big head?

02:39:55.000 Wow.

02:39:56.000 Waving his hand.

02:39:56.000 Hey, welcome to my spaceship.

02:39:58.000 So this is way up in the sky.

02:40:01.000 Yeah.

02:40:01.000 Looking down.

02:40:02.000 And what is that made of?

02:40:04.000 Is it what is that?

02:40:06.000 Some of them are carved into the ground.

02:40:08.000 Some of them they've stacked rocks in a specific pattern.

02:40:12.000 But the weird thing is they're all like intentional designs that you could only see from the sky.

02:40:18.000 That's wild.

02:40:19.000 It's weird, man.

02:40:21.000 It's really weird.

02:40:22.000 Like, what is that guy?

02:40:23.000 A little shaman?

02:40:24.000 What is he?

02:40:25.000 Yeah, like what is it?

02:40:26.000 How many of these NASCA lines, put into perplexity, how many NASCA lines are there?

02:40:38.000 Because there's a bunch of these structures.

02:40:40.000 There's a bunch of these designs.

02:40:42.000 Like, if we go visit the windows, they have now in the order of 900 plus individual Nazca geoclyphs, geoglyphs, what most people call Nazca lines.

02:40:42.000 Hey, can you walk?

02:40:54.000 And the numbers keep increasing as new ones are found.

02:40:57.000 800 of them are straight lines.

02:40:59.000 Okay, so the straight lines are weird too because it's like, is that a runway?

02:41:03.000 Like, what do you have there?

02:41:05.000 What is this?

02:41:06.000 About 300 geometric shapes, rectangles, trapezoids, spirals, about 70 animals and plant figures, biomorphs like the hummingbird, monkey, spider, whale.

02:41:17.000 Weird, weird stuff, man.

02:41:20.000 What is the altitude that the Nazca lines are on?

02:41:24.000 Put that in there.

02:41:25.000 What altitude are they at?

02:41:29.000 What altitude are the Nazca lines at?

02:41:31.000 Do you have to be able to see them?

02:41:33.000 No, just what altitude are they constructed at?

02:41:35.000 What altitude are they at?

02:41:37.000 I think they're like way above sea level.

02:41:47.000 What does it say?

02:41:47.000 Okay.

02:41:49.000 Low desert, oh, a bit above sea level, roughly 300 to 500 meters, 1,600 feet in elevation.

02:41:55.000 Oh, I thought they were a lot higher.

02:41:57.000 Are some of them higher?

02:41:58.000 2,000 feet is the 2005.

02:41:59.000 2,000 feet.

02:42:00.000 Okay.

02:42:03.000 Hmm.

02:42:04.000 And like, what is the largest one?

02:42:07.000 Put that in there.

02:42:08.000 What's the largest Nazca line?

02:42:14.000 So 300 meters is the largest one.

02:42:19.000 370 meters.

02:42:21.000 So 1,200 feet.

02:42:22.000 So not a mile.

02:42:23.000 I was lying.

02:42:25.000 It's like a fifth of a mile.

02:42:26.000 Or a little less than a fifth of a mile.

02:42:29.000 A little more rather than a fifth of a mile.

02:42:31.000 Because what's a mile?

02:42:31.000 Like 5,000?

02:42:33.000 5,280 feet.

02:42:34.000 Yeah.

02:42:35.000 That's still a long way.

02:42:36.000 370 meters is nuts.

02:42:38.000 So these lines are essentially 300.

02:42:42.000 It's basically three football fields plus.

02:42:46.000 You're like, what does it all mean?

02:42:48.000 Like, why did you make something that you could only see from the sky?

02:42:50.000 Because when you're on the ground, my friends who've gone there say you don't know what it is when you're walking around the ground.

02:42:55.000 Because the ground's full.

02:42:56.000 You can't see the design.

02:42:58.000 You just see lines.

02:42:59.000 And you never see, like, there's never been films or there never really been.

02:43:03.000 Well, there's been people that have talked to you that try to figure out what it is exactly or why they built it or what.

02:43:08.000 A lot of them are really kooky, like ancient astronaut stuff, you know, like where they're like trying to.

02:43:14.000 These were clearly messages to the people from the sky.

02:43:17.000 Maybe.

02:43:18.000 But this is the thing.

02:43:19.000 Like, maybe.

02:43:20.000 If you look at the type of people that were capable of beat.

02:43:23.000 Like if you look at Sacsay Huamon is a place that is in Peru that has these insanely giant stones that look like they're melted into place.

02:43:35.000 Those are like the jigsaw puzzles.

02:43:37.000 Pull up Sacsay Huamon.

02:43:38.000 If you have a society that has the capability of moving these hundred-ton, enormous blocks that some of them are like 14 feet tall.

02:43:51.000 How the fuck did you do that?

02:43:53.000 Like, see if you can find one in perspective with a person.

02:43:57.000 Because when you see it with a person standing next to it, you really get a sense of like the mass and the scale.

02:44:03.000 Okay, there you go.

02:44:04.000 So look at the size of that one giant one that's there.

02:44:07.000 Like how?

02:44:08.000 How'd you get there?

02:44:10.000 A person that is capable that has the technology to move something like that, is it absurd to think that they would have the ability to fly?

02:44:18.000 If their entire civilization got wiped out and this is what remains, which is the supposition.

02:44:23.000 That's what a lot of people believe.

02:44:26.000 It's not outrageous to think these people had some ability to fly.

02:44:30.000 So that means you're flying above these designs and these designs may be landmarks.

02:44:36.000 They might be able to show you where you are.

02:44:38.000 Like if you're in a fire.

02:44:39.000 Oh, yeah, you're taking off and you're like, where'd we go?

02:44:41.000 Oh, there's the spider.

02:44:44.000 I mean, who knows what they had?

02:44:46.000 You never know.

02:44:47.000 It's crazy speculation.

02:44:48.000 But the thing.

02:44:49.000 It's not.

02:44:50.000 We've only had planes for a couple hundred years now, not even, right?

02:44:55.000 100.

02:44:56.000 The Wright brothers, it was the turn of the century.

02:44:58.000 20s, right?

02:44:59.000 Somewhere around there.

02:45:00.000 What year was it?

02:45:01.000 A couple hundreds, tough.

02:45:02.000 About 100 and plus.

02:45:03.000 Yeah, it was like late 1800s, right?

02:45:06.000 1800s?

02:45:07.000 No.

02:45:08.000 People could fly back then, but like with a blip or a balloon, but you couldn't.

02:45:11.000 A plane wasn't invented until the Wright brothers.

02:45:13.000 Right.

02:45:14.000 Was that 1920?

02:45:15.000 Yeah.

02:45:16.000 19.

02:45:18.000 It was a very short amount of time.

02:45:19.000 This was the craziest number.

02:45:21.000 It was a really short amount of time.

02:45:23.000 1903.

02:45:24.000 Between, okay, so think of that.

02:45:26.000 You go from 1903 to 1969, the moon landing, allegedly.

02:45:33.000 I don't think they went five.

02:45:34.000 Let's go either.

02:45:36.000 But at least they had rockets and they can go into space, for sure.

02:45:39.000 Sure.

02:45:40.000 So that's only 65 years.

02:45:43.000 That's not a lot.

02:45:44.000 That's nothing, dude.

02:45:45.000 To go from the right mother's plane, that stupid fucking plane. 0.99

02:45:53.000 Who's getting on that thing?

02:45:54.000 Nobody.

02:45:55.000 You would never put your family on that if you're on vacation.

02:45:57.000 Hey, kids, want to fly?

02:45:58.000 No.

02:45:59.000 You have to be an asshole to get on that thing.

02:46:00.000 They went from that to dropping an atomic bomb from one of those things in 40 years.

02:46:06.000 Not even, right?

02:46:08.000 You say 1909?

02:46:09.000 Is that what you said?

02:46:10.000 1903.

02:46:11.000 1903.

02:46:12.000 Okay, think of that.

02:46:13.000 Think of that.

02:46:14.000 42 years later, they dropped atomic bombs out of planes.

02:46:19.000 That's nuts.

02:46:20.000 That is pretty nuts.

02:46:21.000 That's nuts.

02:46:22.000 That's a short amount of time.

02:46:23.000 42 years ago was 1984.

02:46:27.000 Correct.

02:46:27.000 That's how crazy it was.

02:46:28.000 I was in high school.

02:46:30.000 So imagine the plane gets invented then, and then today they drop a fucking nuclear bomb out of one.

02:46:36.000 That's bananas.

02:46:38.000 That's bananas.

02:46:40.000 I wonder if we're start, we're gonna, like, this is the beginning of so many things revealed that'll just keep coming and keep coming.

02:46:51.000 It'll be over.

02:46:52.000 It's just, when does it stop?

02:46:53.000 When does it end?

02:46:54.000 Oh, they're always overwhelmed.

02:46:56.000 Are they, I wish, I wish we knew exactly what they had.

02:47:00.000 Can they move something by just using energy?

02:47:03.000 Can someone just sit there like this?

02:47:05.000 I don't know if a person can, but they must have had some kind of technology that we don't understand to move those stones.

02:47:11.000 100%.

02:47:12.000 There's no, and then what happened to it?

02:47:15.000 What happened?

02:47:16.000 Well, if people got wiped out by a natural disaster, nothing's left.

02:47:19.000 Like, imagine if the world got wiped out and it was just you, me, and Jamie, and a few other people.

02:47:24.000 We're not figuring out a cell phone.

02:47:26.000 No, no.

02:47:27.000 We're not figuring out electricity.

02:47:29.000 We're not figuring out a lot of stuff.

02:47:30.000 We're not figuring out jack shit.

02:47:32.000 It's going to take many, generations before any fucking autistic people figure out the new stuff. 1.00

02:47:40.000 Correct?

02:47:41.000 We're going to have to invent vaccines to give people autism.

02:47:46.000 We're going to have to figure out Adderall.

02:47:49.000 We got to get this kid a little bit off so we can figure things out.

02:47:52.000 Let's do this.

02:47:52.000 We're going to go to Adderall.

02:47:53.000 We got a new things.

02:47:55.000 Someone's going to invent a computer.

02:47:57.000 Yes.

02:47:58.000 Yeah.

02:47:58.000 Think about that.

02:47:59.000 Just how long ago we were like, you got mail.

02:48:01.000 Right.

02:48:03.000 You got mail.

02:48:04.000 I got a computer for the first time in 94 when I first moved to LA.

02:48:07.000 I thought I was living in the future.

02:48:09.000 Me too.

02:48:09.000 I was like, this is crazy.

02:48:11.000 Out of 14.4 baud modem.

02:48:16.000 You had to use your phone line so I couldn't get a phone call while the computer was working because the computer would go online.

02:48:22.000 And when you would download a page, when you would go to watch a page on the internet, it goes.

02:48:28.000 It would slowly load.

02:48:30.000 Gosh, I vaguely remember that.

02:48:32.000 I just remember my first computer.

02:48:34.000 I was living in the city.

02:48:35.000 It just gets sanitized up on a thing.

02:48:38.000 And same thing.

02:48:39.000 I just remember taking forever to go up.

02:48:41.000 And I just 66K was so fast.

02:48:43.000 Like, ooh, I got 56K.

02:48:46.000 I remember be excited when it said, you got mail.

02:48:49.000 Yeah, it was exciting.

02:48:50.000 AOL.

02:48:51.000 It was like a tiny blip in time.

02:48:54.000 And now all of a sudden you've got something in your phone that you can send a video message to someone on the other side of the planet and communicate with them instantaneously.

02:49:02.000 And talk with no, no.

02:49:04.000 No delay.

02:49:05.000 No delay whatsoever.

02:49:06.000 No, I'm talking to anyone I want.

02:49:07.000 In New Zealand, you could be con you could have a fucking iPhone call with someone in New Zealand.

02:49:12.000 I talked to my buddy still in Africa.

02:49:14.000 It's nuts.

02:49:15.000 I call him like every once a month.

02:49:16.000 How you doing?

02:49:17.000 Like, Jimmy, I'm doing good.

02:49:19.000 Yes.

02:49:19.000 Crazy.

02:49:20.000 And this has all happened inside of our lifetime.

02:49:23.000 Yeah.

02:49:23.000 You remember when you used to have to pay money for long distance?

02:49:26.000 Yes.

02:49:27.000 It was expensive.

02:49:28.000 It was super expensive.

02:49:29.000 And if you were on, and there we said again, back with that John Dovin time, I used to have to walk because there were no, even the phones.

02:49:37.000 I had to walk to the, I think it was like a McDonald's, and they had a pay phone.

02:49:42.000 And even there, I'd have to bring a wad of change.

02:49:45.000 Yeah.

02:49:46.000 Because like, for another, for the next two minutes, 25 cents, you need another corner.

02:49:52.000 Or you had phone cards.

02:49:54.000 Remember those?

02:49:55.000 Yes.

02:49:55.000 Those came out.

02:49:56.000 Those came out later.

02:49:57.000 Those came out in the 90s, right?

02:49:57.000 The phone calls.

02:49:58.000 Yeah, after the change.

02:50:01.000 What a weird time.

02:50:02.000 Or you could make collect calls.

02:50:04.000 Would you accept a collect call from Jim Brewer from Australia?

02:50:08.000 No.

02:50:09.000 That would cost so much money.

02:50:10.000 That's ridiculous.

02:50:11.000 Now it costs nothing.

02:50:12.000 Now it's a normal call.

02:50:14.000 For a $10 pass, Verizon will pick this up for you.

02:50:16.000 Well, those people were probably fucking us.

02:50:19.000 And when the cell phone company started giving you long distance for free, then everybody else had to give in too.

02:50:24.000 Because when we were kids, if you had a friend that lived in New Jersey and you lived in California, that shit was expensive.

02:50:24.000 Right.

02:50:30.000 Super expensive.

02:50:30.000 I was like, you're on long distance.

02:50:34.000 Yeah.

02:50:34.000 Get to the point.

02:50:35.000 Everything good?

02:50:36.000 We're on long distance.

02:50:37.000 So then I told her.

02:50:39.000 No, I didn't say it.

02:50:40.000 I think Shirley said it.

02:50:42.000 And we were tired anyway because I had been up.

02:50:45.000 So the dog woke me up.

02:50:47.000 Shut the fuck up and get to the point. 0.97

02:50:49.000 Sometimes you get an argument.

02:50:51.000 It's going to be like a $45 argument.

02:50:53.000 Oh, yeah.

02:50:54.000 Or if you got to get off the phone with them.

02:50:55.000 Long distance relationship with a lady.

02:50:58.000 You have to call her.

02:50:59.000 It's a lot.

02:51:00.000 That's expensive back then.

02:51:01.000 That's expensive.

02:51:01.000 Oh, my God.

02:51:02.000 It could be a $100 call.

02:51:04.000 I had a couple of those because we were just married at an early age.

02:51:08.000 I mean, we'd get in battles over the phone.

02:51:12.000 I'd be more pissed going, I'm paying like $6 every five minutes for the fucking hook.

02:51:19.000 It makes you wonder, like, what kind of things are we going to look back on now in the future and go, you remember before AI came alive?

02:51:27.000 You remember?

02:51:28.000 Yes.

02:51:29.000 Remember when you used to have jobs?

02:51:31.000 Remember when everybody used to work?

02:51:33.000 Which, which does that freak you out?

02:51:34.000 Like, it doesn't.

02:51:35.000 Right now it doesn't.

02:51:35.000 Yeah.

02:51:37.000 It freaks me out.

02:51:38.000 Bother me, huh?

02:51:38.000 It freaks me out.

02:51:39.000 It freaks me out because I don't think we know what's coming.

02:51:42.000 We don't know what's coming.

02:51:43.000 There's nothing you can do about it.

02:51:45.000 My friend Eric Weinstein was doing this interview recently where he was like, whatever you do, just assume it's over.

02:51:51.000 You got to be flexible.

02:51:52.000 Assume whatever you do.

02:51:53.000 You have a white-collar job, it's over.

02:51:55.000 You're a lawyer, it's over.

02:51:56.000 You're an accountant, it's over.

02:51:59.000 That makes sense.

02:51:59.000 It's over.

02:52:00.000 It's coming, and no one has the answer, and no one knows what's going to happen.

02:52:03.000 And I think that's accurate.

02:52:05.000 It's like a tidal wave.

02:52:06.000 And unless you're able to grab a tree, climb up, you just got to, that wave's going to come.

02:52:13.000 It's going to do whatever it's going to do.

02:52:15.000 And then when it starts reciting, you just got to hope you're still there and you're able to find ants.

02:52:19.000 And I think it's going to be a technological disaster in a lot of ways.

02:52:24.000 Interest in that.

02:52:25.000 It's going to cause so much change, just like the Great Flood caused so much change.

02:52:30.000 I think this is going to cause so much change.

02:52:32.000 It's going to be a lot of chaos.

02:52:33.000 You know what else is going to be chaos?

02:52:34.000 If I don't pee real quick, I got to pee really late.

02:52:37.000 Let's rock this bitch down. 1.00

02:52:39.000 Jim, I love you to death, brother.

02:52:40.000 Love you too, bro.

02:52:41.000 Always great to see you.

02:52:42.000 Thanks for having me.

02:52:42.000 God damn, we've been friends for a long time.

02:52:44.000 Yeah, thanks for having me.

02:52:47.000 You're a busy man.

02:52:48.000 Brother, I love you.

02:52:49.000 I appreciate it.

02:52:49.000 We've been friends for like 34 years.

02:52:52.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:52:52.000 That's madness.

02:52:53.000 Yeah, that's madness.

02:52:54.000 Wow.

02:52:55.000 That's pretty awesome.

02:52:56.000 Wild.

02:52:57.000 Jimbrewer.com.

02:52:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:52:59.000 On tour now.

02:53:00.000 Hilarious.

02:53:00.000 On tour now.

02:53:01.000 Go see him.

02:53:02.000 Fucking genius stand-up comedy.

02:53:03.000 Thank you.

02:53:04.000 Love it, brother.

02:53:05.000 Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - February 24, 2026

Joe Rogan Experience #2459 - Jim Breuer

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