The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2463 - Steve-O

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan podcast, check it out!

00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan experience.

00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan.

00:00:07.000 Podcast by night, all day.

00:00:12.000 Headphones, no headphones, no one's gonna get it.

00:00:13.000 Yeah, I don't need headphones.

00:00:14.000 You don't we're going no headphones. 1.00

00:00:16.000 Fuck it. 1.00

00:00:17.000 How are you? 1.00

00:00:17.000 What's up, dog? 1.00

00:00:18.000 Well, dude, it's been a roller coaster for me, man.

00:00:21.000 Since the last time I saw you?

00:00:23.000 Big time.

00:00:24.000 What happened?

00:00:25.000 Well, let's see here.

00:00:32.000 The year of 2022, last time I saw you, I think it was 2023.

00:00:37.000 Was it that long ago?

00:00:38.000 I think it was, man.

00:00:40.000 Yeah.

00:00:40.000 Okay.

00:00:41.000 And, man, dude, I was on high the year of 2022. 0.82

00:00:46.000 Like, we had our jackass movie in theater.

00:00:49.000 It's number one. 0.94

00:00:51.000 My profile was all, you know, like white hot.

00:00:56.000 The world just opened up from the pandemic and everybody had stimulus money and they were just revenge spending.

00:01:03.000 Everyone wanted to go out to shows and there were no interest rates.

00:01:07.000 Money was free.

00:01:08.000 It was just like a perfect storm for me to have the most successful year of my life.

00:01:14.000 Like more than double what my next most successful year was.

00:01:19.000 And then like, I don't know, maybe I just got like super, super high on that, you know, like, and it was just like, I was just kind of printing money, you know, like selling merch like crazy and like everything was just going so well.

00:01:36.000 And I don't know if maybe like you become more successful and like people get angry at you, you know, but there's a point like a point after that where I felt like, man, the internet turned on me, kind of.

00:01:53.000 You know, like I saw a lot of negative comments.

00:01:56.000 People saying that all I do is promote merch.

00:02:01.000 You know, like there was, there was a bunch of different stuff.

00:02:04.000 And I legitimately agree.

00:02:08.000 That's my thing is when I see a negative comment about me, if I agree with it, then it really bothers me, you know, and I got to do something about it.

00:02:16.000 You know, I think, and I've heard you say that, that, you know, that taking criticism constructively is like super helpful.

00:02:26.000 It's very helpful.

00:02:27.000 The problem with the internet is it's overwhelming.

00:02:30.000 It's too many, too many voices.

00:02:32.000 Right.

00:02:32.000 Too many different people.

00:02:33.000 That's why I would never recommend for a person like you to even read the comments.

00:02:37.000 Right.

00:02:38.000 What I did was. 1.00

00:02:40.000 Do you have a dick tattooed on your right eyebrow? 1.00

00:02:43.000 Is that what that is? 1.00

00:02:44.000 That's exactly.

00:02:45.000 How long do you have to keep that for?

00:02:46.000 I don't have to keep it for any amount of time.

00:02:48.000 It's not a bet or anything?

00:02:49.000 I mean, it is a bet.

00:02:50.000 How long I last before I get lasered off.

00:02:53.000 And is there a money value to this bet?

00:02:57.000 No, it's more of an experiment.

00:03:00.000 But I've been doing really well with it.

00:03:00.000 Oh.

00:03:02.000 It's not even a good dick. 1.00

00:03:04.000 It's like a weird dick, like a banana dick. 1.00

00:03:08.000 It's pretty awesome. 1.00

00:03:12.000 And it was.

00:03:13.000 You're bad at taking criticism.

00:03:18.000 It was done by post-Malone.

00:03:21.000 That makes it even better.

00:03:21.000 Oh.

00:03:23.000 It makes it awesome.

00:03:24.000 I don't expect to keep it forever, but I was very shocked when I got it that my life didn't really change a whole lot.

00:03:24.000 Yeah.

00:03:31.000 Yeah, it's you.

00:03:32.000 Right. 1.00

00:03:33.000 Like if Marco Rubio got a dick tattoo on his forehead, he'd be like, hey, take this fucking clearance away. 1.00

00:03:33.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:03:41.000 Yeah.

00:03:42.000 But in any case, man, like I just, you couldn't be more right.

00:03:48.000 There's so many voices and everything.

00:03:50.000 But I agreed with a bunch of stuff.

00:03:52.000 And, you know, I spent like 2024, 2025, like very mindfully addressing the criticism with which I agreed.

00:04:07.000 And I felt like I made like really good progress, you know, like sort of repairing my reputation, even though maybe I didn't even need to.

00:04:16.000 I don't think you needed to.

00:04:18.000 Maybe not.

00:04:20.000 And then coming into 2026, I was like, wow, I did this.

00:04:24.000 I texted you.

00:04:26.000 I was like, dude, I got on this Mr. Beast thing.

00:04:28.000 I won the whole damn thing. 0.93

00:04:30.000 And there was this video he made. 0.99

00:04:33.000 30 celebrities compete to win a million dollars for charity.

00:04:38.000 Who were we on with?

00:04:39.000 Dude, it was Matt Reif was one of them.

00:04:42.000 Oh, cool.

00:04:43.000 Sal Volcano.

00:04:44.000 Oh, nice.

00:04:45.000 Howie Mandel, Diplo.

00:04:48.000 Nice.

00:04:48.000 The Bella twins.

00:04:50.000 Oh, so that's a crazy group of people.

00:04:52.000 It was really crazy.

00:04:53.000 So there was 20?

00:04:54.000 20 of them?

00:04:55.000 Oh, wow.

00:04:55.000 30.

00:04:56.000 30, like not half-assed celebrities by any measure.

00:04:56.000 Yeah.

00:05:00.000 And yeah, I won the whole damn thing. 0.97

00:05:03.000 So what was involved? 0.98

00:05:04.000 What'd you have to do?

00:05:06.000 There was, I mean, it was an exercise in promoting his Beast games on Prime, which, by the way, is the most phenomenal TV show that I've ever watched.

00:05:17.000 Yeah, my daughter was just telling me about it.

00:05:18.000 She was saying it's so good.

00:05:20.000 It is unbelievably good.

00:05:22.000 And I'm not being patient.

00:05:24.000 He's a wizard, man.

00:05:25.000 That dude's very smart.

00:05:26.000 Yeah, I got to.

00:05:27.000 He's like a really interesting guy because he's kind of open about what he does and he tells people how to do it.

00:05:33.000 Right.

00:05:33.000 You know, like how to manipulate the algorithm and how to get people to get excited and click on your link based on what the images and the text says.

00:05:41.000 And he thinks about all that shit. 0.99

00:05:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:05:44.000 I was able to have him on my podcast right when the thing came out.

00:05:50.000 And he was telling me that he was pretty close to recording a podcast with you on the top of the pyramid.

00:05:59.000 Yeah I couldn't make it out there.

00:06:02.000 I didn't have the time.

00:06:03.000 Yeah.

00:06:04.000 But you know, he's amazing.

00:06:05.000 And I thought when that thing came out, I was like, man, this is just going to be life off.

00:06:10.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:06:10.000 People got mad at him.

00:06:11.000 They got mad at him when he was filming in Egypt because he was filming with Zahi Hawass.

00:06:16.000 And Zahi is the, what is he, the head of the Ministry of Antiquities?

00:06:21.000 Is that what it is?

00:06:22.000 Or he was at one point in time.

00:06:23.000 He was one of, you know, my most controversial podcast guest.

00:06:27.000 People did not like him.

00:06:28.000 Because he's kind of pushes a narrative in defiance of all the evidence that has been sort of uncovered by all these other people.

00:06:28.000 Wow.

00:06:41.000 It's like there's this evidence that shows that, you know, the pyramids are built by these guys.

00:06:50.000 You know, Mr. Beast.

00:06:51.000 Because Mr. Beast did something with him, and a lot of people online were mad at him for having this guy on.

00:06:57.000 Zahi.

00:06:57.000 And it's the guy who pushed that.

00:06:59.000 Look, nobody knows how they built the pyramids.

00:07:01.000 And he's like, they built it because it was a national project.

00:07:05.000 And I was like, come on, bro.

00:07:06.000 Like, that's a fun thing to say, but that doesn't tell me how they got all those rocks there.

00:07:11.000 Tell me how they got 2,300,000 stones that weigh between 2 and 80 tons.

00:07:17.000 And they moved them to the mountains, some of them, 500 miles away.

00:07:20.000 Tell me how they did that.

00:07:21.000 Tell me how they aligned it to True North, South, East, and West 4,500 plus years ago.

00:07:28.000 And it's more likely plus than minus.

00:07:30.000 I mean, nobody knows.

00:07:32.000 So that was really controversial.

00:07:33.000 A lot of people are mad at Mr. Beast for that.

00:07:35.000 In the algorithm that I have, people are calling him a shill and letting this guy say nonsense on your show.

00:07:42.000 Wow, okay.

00:07:43.000 So that's the point.

00:07:44.000 It's like, don't listen.

00:07:45.000 Right, right, right. 0.99

00:07:46.000 Nobody gives a shit. 0.99

00:07:47.000 None of Mr. Beast's fans are like, we're going to abandon him. 0.98

00:07:50.000 He has on spitting out propaganda.

00:07:54.000 Nobody cares, right?

00:07:55.000 There's just too many voices.

00:07:56.000 And if you look at yourself, if you feel like, oh, I'm kind of whoring out my merch too much, just back off of it.

00:08:02.000 Yeah, yeah, that's what I did.

00:08:04.000 That's what I did. 0.99

00:08:05.000 He gets shit for everything because he's uber successful. 0.99

00:08:10.000 Right. 0.99

00:08:10.000 So everything he does, like, it could be like, he only gave away a million dollars to charity. 0.99

00:08:10.000 Right. 0.99

00:08:14.000 Like, it's fucking ridiculous, man. 1.00

00:08:18.000 Like, you'll never make all those people happy. 1.00

00:08:20.000 They don't want to be happy.

00:08:22.000 That's a big part of what's going on.

00:08:24.000 You're jumping into a pool of mentally ill people and trying to stay clean. 0.99

00:08:29.000 They're like, wash. 0.81

00:08:30.000 Hey, guys, guys, guys, let's be reasonable.

00:08:32.000 They're not reasonable. 0.99

00:08:33.000 They're fucking suicidal. 1.00

00:08:35.000 They know what a gun tastes like. 1.00

00:08:36.000 They've had it in their mouth recently.

00:08:38.000 This is not a place where you're going to get rational discourse.

00:08:42.000 Right.

00:08:43.000 But again, it's when I agree with stuff.

00:08:46.000 Right.

00:08:46.000 That it bothers you.

00:08:47.000 Right.

00:08:47.000 But do that to yourself.

00:08:48.000 Right, right.

00:08:48.000 Just look at yourself.

00:08:50.000 Take a moment.

00:08:52.000 I don't know if I was burned out, like if I was touring, but like there was a point going through 2022 in particular, 2023, where like I just, I would lose my mind over people being disruptive in the audience at my shows.

00:09:10.000 Like, I don't even want to call them hecklers because I think like heckler has like a connotation of wittiness to it. 0.94

00:09:19.000 I'm talking about just drunk shits just yelling out and disrupting the show. 0.98

00:09:26.000 And I would take the position, I'd be like, man, you know, this whole audience of people paid their hard-earned money to come see this show. 0.99

00:09:36.000 And this one person yelling out is just fundamentally disrespecting everybody who's here.

00:09:43.000 And I'm not standing for it.

00:09:44.000 I'm drawing a hard, you know, and I would be like, I would snap, be like, no, I would be throwing people out. 0.98

00:09:50.000 What happened was everybody thought I was a dick, you know, and like, maybe so. 0.97

00:09:56.000 Like, maybe I was burned out and it was like. 0.99

00:09:58.000 You were overreacting.

00:09:59.000 Overreacting.

00:09:59.000 Right.

00:10:00.000 And like, that's another piece of criticism that I really, really took to heart.

00:10:05.000 And now it's been over two years, like well over two years since I even scolded an audience member to throw them out.

00:10:15.000 That's great.

00:10:16.000 Just got to kind of put that energy out there at the beginning.

00:10:18.000 We're all here to have a good time.

00:10:20.000 You know, we're all here to have a good time.

00:10:22.000 Let them know.

00:10:23.000 It's like, like if someone's yelling out, I'm like, come on, man.

00:10:26.000 Keep it to yourself.

00:10:27.000 Stay calm.

00:10:29.000 Hold it together.

00:10:30.000 If I get really pushed in an egregious situation, the farthest I'll go is I'll say, hey, you know what, guys?

00:10:37.000 I used to get really bent out of shape over people being disruptive, but I don't do it anymore.

00:10:42.000 And that tends to.

00:10:43.000 And as soon as I stopped reacting so much, the problem mellowed out.

00:10:48.000 Well, you got to realize, like, your entire career, you've kind of been a disruptor.

00:10:52.000 Sure.

00:10:53.000 So it's kind of natural that disruptive people would be attracted to come to your show.

00:10:58.000 Of course.

00:10:59.000 And then you're saying, please be polite at this moment in time.

00:11:03.000 Right.

00:11:03.000 Yeah.

00:11:04.000 Like, you're about to see me put some things up my butt and I demand respect. 0.85

00:11:08.000 Is that what you do in your show? 0.99

00:11:09.000 You put stuff up your butt? 0.99

00:11:10.000 Right, it's a multimedia show. 0.99

00:11:12.000 So, so it, like, it.

00:11:15.000 So, of course, you put something up.

00:11:16.000 It's multimedia.

00:11:17.000 I mean, self-explanatory, Jamie.

00:11:21.000 What's with the questions, Jamie?

00:11:25.000 Right.

00:11:26.000 But I still to this day cringe when Tim Kennedy choked you unconscious and then let you drop.

00:11:32.000 I was mad at him.

00:11:33.000 Yeah, that was.

00:11:34.000 I was mad at him.

00:11:35.000 You didn't have to let you drop like that.

00:11:37.000 I did ask him to drop me, which I would have said no.

00:11:40.000 Yeah.

00:11:40.000 I would have said no.

00:11:41.000 If you made me do that to you, first of all, I would have tried to talk you out of it.

00:11:44.000 But then I would have said, there's no way I'm going to let you drop.

00:11:47.000 In hindsight, it wasn't particularly funny.

00:11:51.000 Not only was it not funny, it was like super disturbing.

00:11:53.000 Right.

00:11:54.000 I would have put a cushion under you at the very least.

00:11:56.000 You know, like a nice, like one of them judo pads where you throw people on.

00:12:01.000 Being choked out in and of itself is not that bad.

00:12:06.000 It's not really not the best for you.

00:12:08.000 Yeah, I don't know what the data is.

00:12:08.000 Right.

00:12:10.000 I don't think a lot of jiu-jitsu people have done double-blind placebo-controlled studies on tap or no tap, what's the best for your brain.

00:12:18.000 Right.

00:12:19.000 I can't think it's good that your brain gets shut off for a few seconds.

00:12:23.000 I can't think it's good.

00:12:25.000 One of the gnarliest things I've ever done in my life, if not the gnarliest, way back in 2003, we had just had the first Jackass movie come out.

00:12:37.000 While filming for the first Jackass movie, one of the bits that it was never used because it was too far.

00:12:45.000 For Jackass?

00:12:46.000 For Jackass. 0.93

00:12:47.000 Right.

00:12:48.000 Do you have a clip of this?

00:12:51.000 Of what, I'm sure that it exists.

00:12:54.000 But you'll appreciate this.

00:12:54.000 Okay.

00:12:57.000 The legend Gene LaBelle.

00:12:59.000 Oh, Judo Gene.

00:13:00.000 Judo Gene, the legend.

00:13:02.000 The real legend.

00:13:03.000 Yeah.

00:13:03.000 Like, they had Gene LaBelle, they lined up the whole cast of Jackass, and he just went down the line.

00:13:09.000 He just choked it all out?

00:13:10.000 Yeah.

00:13:11.000 And like the swiftness with which he.

00:13:13.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:14.000 He was a brutal man.

00:13:15.000 I mean, it was just like. 0.88

00:13:18.000 Super nice guy, but a brutal man.

00:13:21.000 Right.

00:13:22.000 It wasn't even brutal, though.

00:13:23.000 It was like gentle.

00:13:24.000 I mean, it was just so fast.

00:13:26.000 It was just crazy.

00:13:26.000 His style was known for being particularly painful.

00:13:31.000 My friend Silvio Pimenta was one of his students, and he was one of my first jiu-jitsu instructors.

00:13:36.000 And he taught me a bunch of Gene stuff.

00:13:38.000 And I was like, oh, what a mean guy.

00:13:40.000 Some of his stuff was so mean. 0.99

00:13:42.000 It was like knuckles in your neck and like real crazy shit that Gene would do to people. 0.99

00:13:48.000 It was like particularly painful. 0.99

00:13:49.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:13:50.000 Out cold.

00:13:50.000 There you go.

00:13:51.000 Oh, yeah, that looks gentle.

00:13:54.000 Super gentle.

00:13:55.000 No, I'm not even kidding.

00:13:56.000 Like, the way he's doing it.

00:13:56.000 I mean, his technique is so flawless.

00:13:59.000 You know, Chuck Liddell was really good at it, too.

00:14:02.000 He choked me out one time.

00:14:05.000 So who did he punch?

00:14:07.000 Who did he punch in the arm full blast?

00:14:10.000 Someone like that, one of you guys.

00:14:13.000 Oh, that would have been before Jackass.

00:14:15.000 Was it Jason Ellis?

00:14:16.000 I forget who it was, but someone let Chuck full blast right-hand them in the arm.

00:14:21.000 I'm like, well, that arm's useless for a couple of months now. 0.99

00:14:25.000 Fucking crazy. 0.99

00:14:26.000 That's not like your buddy punching you in the arm versus Chuckle. 1.00

00:14:30.000 He's going to rip some stuff apart in there.

00:14:32.000 He might blow your shoulder out. 0.98

00:14:33.000 Like, that's crazy to let that guy hit you.

00:14:36.000 Yeah, what a sweetheart, too.

00:14:37.000 Oh, he's a great guy.

00:14:39.000 Chuck was the weirdest because when he was in his prime, like you look at him, he was so scary because he's tall. 0.98

00:14:45.000 He was fucking built like a brick shithouse, mohawk, tattoo on his head. 0.98

00:14:49.000 Super kind. 1.00

00:14:50.000 Like you talked to him.

00:14:51.000 Super calm and relaxed. 1.00

00:14:52.000 And he spent a bunch of time with a fucking guy. 1.00

00:14:56.000 Great fucking guy. 1.00

00:14:57.000 Okay, so Gene LaBelle just lays this all down one by one. 1.00

00:15:01.000 Okay.

00:15:02.000 Like they considered it too dark.

00:15:04.000 They didn't even like.

00:15:05.000 Just because he went unconscious?

00:15:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:07.000 What year was this?

00:15:08.000 In 2002.

00:15:10.000 People weren't used to being choked out yet.

00:15:12.000 The UFC didn't really get big until 2005.

00:15:15.000 Right.

00:15:15.000 Because of Chuck.

00:15:17.000 Really?

00:15:17.000 Well, it was really because of Stephan Bonner and Forrest Griffin.

00:15:20.000 Right, right, right, right.

00:15:20.000 That one fight on the ultimate.

00:15:22.000 It's crazy.

00:15:23.000 One fight on the Ultimate Fighter changed the course of the history of the sport.

00:15:30.000 That was the premiere on Spike.

00:15:31.000 Uh-huh.

00:15:32.000 Because there was a good fight before that.

00:15:34.000 Diego Sanchez beat Kenny Florian.

00:15:38.000 So that was before that.

00:15:39.000 That was a really good fight, too. 0.99

00:15:41.000 But that was like, you know, Diego beat his ass. 0.97

00:15:44.000 Whereas the Stephen Bonner, Forrest Griffin fight was a crazy, like, completely even fight. 0.99

00:15:51.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:15:52.000 And two dudes who knew each other really well, and they were fucking going for it. 0.73

00:15:56.000 They said that during the time, you know, like maybe a million people were watching it at first, and the peak was like six or seven million, which for them was nuts. 0.87

00:16:04.000 So what that meant was everybody was calling their friend and go, dude, turn on Spike TV right now.

00:16:10.000 This is crazy.

00:16:11.000 And like, what is this?

00:16:12.000 Like, no one knew what it was back then.

00:16:15.000 Like, they had heard of Hoist Gracie, but no one knew that it was going to be on TV.

00:16:19.000 And they're like, boom, that was it.

00:16:21.000 And then they had Chuck as the champion, which was the perfect champion for an emerging sport. 0.99

00:16:26.000 This guy was just a seek and destroy psychopath with a tattoo, like congee tattoo on his head and a mohawk just fucking starching people. 1.00

00:16:36.000 Woo! 1.00

00:16:37.000 I remember that Eric.

00:16:38.000 Wild time.

00:16:40.000 I mean, year 2000 was when Jackass came out on MTV.

00:16:44.000 And I mean, at that time, you couldn't watch video on the internet.

00:16:48.000 That was the dark times.

00:16:49.000 That was when it was banned from cable and you could only watch.

00:16:53.000 I got direct TV because it was the only way you could watch the UFC.

00:16:57.000 That's why I got direct TV.

00:17:01.000 And the media just wasn't so fragmented at that time.

00:17:06.000 There were only so many TV channels.

00:17:08.000 There was no social media, no video on the internet.

00:17:11.000 So when something hit on basic cable, it hit big.

00:17:14.000 Yeah.

00:17:15.000 Yeah.

00:17:16.000 And I think the most views, the most concurrent viewers on MTV that we got was like 4.5 million.

00:17:25.000 And that for cable, that's a lot.

00:17:28.000 That moved the needle in a big way.

00:17:29.000 That's unheard of now.

00:17:31.000 Which is really kind of crazy if you think about it.

00:17:31.000 Right.

00:17:33.000 That's how much things have gotten diluted because there's so many shows.

00:17:33.000 Yep.

00:17:37.000 It's impossible to watch everything.

00:17:40.000 Right.

00:17:40.000 Every time I turn on Apple TV, there's some new interesting show.

00:17:44.000 There's a fucking million of them on Amazon Prime that you've never even heard of that are really good. 0.88

00:17:49.000 They're all over the place. 0.98

00:17:50.000 Right.

00:17:50.000 Mate, you know, I had a really great conversation with Mark McGrath, the guy from Sugar Ray.

00:17:57.000 Oh, really?

00:17:58.000 Yeah, he's, like, I just fell in love with this guy.

00:18:01.000 I had him on my podcast.

00:18:03.000 And he made such a valid point about how the 90s, 90s nostalgia is so rad because it was really the last time when everybody watched the same shows on TV together.

00:18:18.000 Right.

00:18:18.000 You know, like all the albums came out on the Tuesday or like whatever, you know, like everything.

00:18:24.000 It was a communal audience for everything.

00:18:27.000 We don't have that anymore.

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00:19:45.000 Well, we knew when albums were going to be released and everybody got excited about it.

00:19:49.000 Yeah, the new Van Halen.

00:19:52.000 Yeah, it was a fun time.

00:19:54.000 It was an interesting time.

00:19:56.000 And it was a time, like before the internet, you had to find out about stuff from friends.

00:20:00.000 Yeah.

00:20:01.000 You know?

00:20:01.000 Like, I remember I was headed to a gig with this dude.

00:20:05.000 God, I wish I could remember his last name.

00:20:06.000 But he was really funny.

00:20:08.000 Johnny Something. 1.00

00:20:09.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:20:10.000 I'll remember it eventually. 1.00

00:20:11.000 But we were on our way to this comic from Connecticut.

00:20:14.000 We were on our way to a gig together.

00:20:16.000 And he's like, have you heard of the brand new Heavies?

00:20:19.000 And I go, no, who are they?

00:20:20.000 He goes, it's a jazz band.

00:20:22.000 And they linked up with a bunch of rappers and made this heavy rhyme experience album. 0.99

00:20:28.000 It was fucking incredible. 0.94

00:20:30.000 I'm like, I would have never found out about this. 0.99

00:20:31.000 That's sick.

00:20:32.000 Oh, it's sick, dude.

00:20:33.000 There's one with a gangstar that's great.

00:20:36.000 It's getting hectic. 0.99

00:20:37.000 It's fucking great. 0.97

00:20:39.000 Because it's like you got this music that's like this like real live band music. 0.98

00:20:44.000 Sort of like how that tiny desk show does it now.

00:20:48.000 See, I don't even know the tiny desk.

00:20:50.000 But like you got like Cool G rap.

00:20:53.000 Oh, dude, Cool G rap.

00:20:55.000 That's it, Johnny Rizzo.

00:20:56.000 How did you do that?

00:20:57.000 That's another trick. 0.99

00:20:59.000 How the fuck did you do that? 1.00

00:21:01.000 Shout out to Johnny Rizzo. 1.00

00:21:03.000 Is he around still?

00:21:05.000 He was a funny dude.

00:21:11.000 He had like a rubber face.

00:21:12.000 The dude could make the craziest faces.

00:21:15.000 It was so funny.

00:21:16.000 Yeah.

00:21:17.000 Back to the choking out thing.

00:21:18.000 I think the reason why it was dark and disturbing.

00:21:22.000 Because you guys were twitching.

00:21:23.000 Yeah, it's the twitching.

00:21:25.000 When you get choked out, you're twitching.

00:21:26.000 And then that's a little bit.

00:21:28.000 It's just waking up.

00:21:29.000 It's a little bit upsetting.

00:21:30.000 But that's hilarious. 1.00

00:21:32.000 All the shit you guys did that they left in. 0.99

00:21:34.000 Well, yeah, and another big problem is that with the choking out, it's particularly imitatable. 1.00

00:21:41.000 That's something that we don't know.

00:21:46.000 If it's something that little kids could like pretty easily imitate, then that's more problematic for us.

00:21:52.000 But in that whole experience, Ryan Dunn just came away feeling qualified to start choking people out himself.

00:22:05.000 Oh, no.

00:22:06.000 I don't know that Ryan Dunn had any kind of combat sports background.

00:22:10.000 I kind of doubt it.

00:22:12.000 I think it was literally just from this one experience with Gene LaBelle, kind of watching it happen, having the experience himself.

00:22:19.000 He just started choking people out.

00:22:23.000 And back then, I had a wildly different style of tour, but I was on tour nonetheless.

00:22:29.000 And Ryan Dunn would be with me on tour.

00:22:31.000 He would say to the audience, who wants to get on stage and get choked out?

00:22:35.000 And even back then, I was like out of my mind on drugs.

00:22:39.000 And I was like, please don't be doing this.

00:22:43.000 It really, really bothered me.

00:22:45.000 It made me so uncomfortable.

00:22:46.000 I would leave the stage when Ryan Dunn was choking out audience members.

00:22:50.000 It was so crazy that they signed up for that.

00:22:52.000 Right.

00:22:53.000 And people would be jumping up and down, like, please, please.

00:22:56.000 Did he let them down?

00:22:57.000 He didn't drop it.

00:22:58.000 He did let them down.

00:22:59.000 That's very kind of him.

00:23:00.000 But it bothered me so much until the one day when I'd been on cocaine for like three days in a row, and I was feeling a little bit self-conscious about how little, like, very intense footage that I had been generating.

00:23:18.000 And I was like, you know what?

00:23:19.000 Today's my day.

00:23:20.000 Ryan Dunn, choke me out.

00:23:22.000 And so he did it once.

00:23:24.000 And then he did it again.

00:23:27.000 We spent the whole day.

00:23:29.000 Six times in a row.

00:23:34.000 And each time, it became more like violent, throwing me down.

00:23:40.000 That's number two.

00:23:42.000 It seems like he's having fun with your body after it's out.

00:23:48.000 He sort of just ragged all in you.

00:23:50.000 Yeah.

00:23:51.000 Dude.

00:23:51.000 Six of them in one day.

00:23:53.000 That's too much.

00:23:54.000 Oh, my God.

00:23:55.000 The last one.

00:23:56.000 That rarely happens in training.

00:23:58.000 Right.

00:23:59.000 Usually you tap out.

00:24:00.000 Yeah.

00:24:01.000 After this one, I think there's two more.

00:24:03.000 And the last one is just so upsetting.

00:24:07.000 This one?

00:24:08.000 Yeah, I guess it's the one where he threw me on my head.

00:24:12.000 Oh, dude.

00:24:13.000 Yeah, like right.

00:24:14.000 I don't want to see.

00:24:15.000 No, Yeah, I landed right on my face, dude. 1.00

00:24:19.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

00:24:20.000 Why did you do that? 1.00

00:24:21.000 You wanted it to be more exciting?

00:24:24.000 I think that...

00:24:25.000 And the cocaine.

00:24:26.000 Yeah.

00:24:27.000 There was cocaine falling out of my nose in the shot because I put it there.

00:24:32.000 Jesus.

00:24:35.000 Jeez.

00:24:36.000 Right.

00:24:37.000 So I think that's probably the gnarliest thing.

00:24:39.000 Yeah.

00:24:40.000 But in any case, so.

00:24:41.000 Did you get hurt from that at all?

00:24:44.000 I think I had a repeated tooth.

00:24:46.000 Oh, from falling on your face?

00:24:47.000 Yeah.

00:24:47.000 Did you get hurt at all from the repeated chokings?

00:24:50.000 I don't think so.

00:24:51.000 It's pretty amazing, given what I've put myself through, both professionally and personally, that I have good recall.

00:24:51.000 No.

00:25:02.000 How many times Johnny told me he's been knocked out unconscious 16 times?

00:25:06.000 How many times do you think?

00:25:07.000 Nah, I'm not at that level.

00:25:09.000 I got knocked out in the WWE ring on Monday Night Raw.

00:25:19.000 This was a heavy one, man.

00:25:21.000 Which you're hit with.

00:25:23.000 And it was an elbow that really put me out.

00:25:26.000 Who hit you?

00:25:27.000 Umaga.

00:25:29.000 His fighter name in the WWE was the Samoan bulldozer.

00:25:33.000 Bro, Samoan's got some heavy bones. 1.00

00:25:35.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:25:36.000 I get hit by a Samoan. 1.00

00:25:37.000 Yeah.

00:25:38.000 I mean, dude, I bet you can bring that one up.

00:25:40.000 Really easy.

00:25:41.000 Monday Night Raw, Steve-O and Chris Pontius. 0.96

00:25:44.000 We were promoting the second jackass movie.

00:25:47.000 So we're going to get in the ring. 0.85

00:25:50.000 We're getting in the ring.

00:25:51.000 We're doing a whole match.

00:25:53.000 And it's fascinating the way that they kind of block out what the matches are.

00:25:58.000 It's kind of like a jam band.

00:25:59.000 Right.

00:26:00.000 You know, like a jam band that you've got like the kind of tent pull moments and then you just kind of fill it in.

00:26:05.000 But it's like, there's going to, this is going to happen, this is going to happen, this is going to happen.

00:26:10.000 And what was to be the last move, it's called a splash, where this 350-pound Samoan bulldozer is going to jump off the top rope and with me laying on the ground and like body slam, you know, off the top rope. 0.91

00:26:28.000 But what I didn't understand, what I didn't know, is that the match for it to be over, that means the person who lost like stops moving.

00:26:37.000 You know, like you're not supposed to, well, you're not supposed to move around.

00:26:41.000 Oh, you moved around.

00:26:42.000 I moved it so like so.

00:26:43.000 He put you to sleep.

00:26:44.000 Yeah, like he jumped off the top rope, and it was such a devastating blow that I couldn't help but react.

00:26:51.000 You know, I was like, oh, you know, like, whoa, like, and I'm laughing and rolling around.

00:26:55.000 Like, I can't even believe it.

00:26:57.000 And he's looking at me like, oh, now I'm disrespecting him because I'm moving around.

00:27:02.000 So he hits me again, and I'm confused because I understood that what just happened was supposed to be the final move.

00:27:11.000 But now he just hit me again.

00:27:12.000 And I'm like, what are you doing?

00:27:13.000 You know, like, but he's like, if I'm going to move around, he's going to keep hitting me.

00:27:18.000 Nobody told you that.

00:27:19.000 And so then he hits me again.

00:27:22.000 And right there.

00:27:25.000 This is gnarly.

00:27:26.000 Yeah, we got pretty radical.

00:27:30.000 Yeah, there's a, okay, this, this is, dude, he drops his elbow.

00:27:37.000 They didn't even show the end of the match.

00:27:42.000 They went to commercial because it was too dark for the WWE to show.

00:27:48.000 See, right there, now it's supposed to be over, but I'm moving around.

00:27:57.000 And so they're.

00:27:58.000 Yeah, so now he's kicking me.

00:27:59.000 And I'm like, wait, dude, I think that elbow was what put me out.

00:28:05.000 And they cut to the commercial.

00:28:08.000 I don't remember leaving the ring.

00:28:10.000 Wow. 0.83

00:28:11.000 Yeah, that elbow looked pretty fucking hard, dude. 0.52

00:28:14.000 Yeah, they right there. 0.97

00:28:15.000 But it's also all the other banging of your brain.

00:28:18.000 I mean, this is a lot of banging of your brain.

00:28:20.000 The body slams a banging of your brain.

00:28:22.000 Yeah.

00:28:23.000 Yeah, you definitely got a concussion from that one, son.

00:28:26.000 Yeah.

00:28:27.000 Those dudes get concussions all the time. 1.00

00:28:29.000 You don't think about it because you think, oh, it's wrestling.

00:28:32.000 It's pro-wrestling.

00:28:34.000 But just the physical contact is unavoidable.

00:28:36.000 Those guys, when Hulk Hogan came in here, man, it was one of the saddest things.

00:28:41.000 I had met him a long time ago in Beverly Hills.

00:28:45.000 I ran into him in front of a cigar bar. 0.99

00:28:47.000 I was like, holy shit, he was gigantic. 0.98

00:28:49.000 And then I met him the second time when he did. 0.99

00:28:51.000 Well, I met him another time when he and I did a spike TV thing.

00:28:54.000 It was awesome.

00:28:56.000 And then he came in to do the podcast and he had so many back surgeries that he was like six inches shorter.

00:29:02.000 Oh, wow.

00:29:02.000 It was crazy.

00:29:03.000 It's because they have to fuse all of his discs and he had a cane everywhere, man. 1.00

00:29:07.000 He was fucked up. 1.00

00:29:09.000 And he said it was from that thing that he would do where he would drop down on his ass with an elbow. 1.00

00:29:13.000 So every time he did that, he fucked his backup. 1.00

00:29:16.000 I mean, think about how big he was in his prime. 0.99

00:29:18.000 Right.

00:29:18.000 300 plus pounds, right?

00:29:20.000 So every time you're dropping down, your body's taking the shock on your ass bone of 300 plus pounds flying through the air and bouncing off the ground. 0.90

00:29:30.000 So all of his discs got herniated. 0.59

00:29:33.000 He had to get them all fused.

00:29:34.000 It was horrible, man. 0.99

00:29:36.000 Those guys get fucking busted up. 0.99

00:29:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:29:39.000 The rock is like a weird, he's an outlier because I don't know what kind of physical issues he has, but he doesn't seem to have any.

00:29:47.000 Like I worked out with him.

00:29:48.000 He's mobile.

00:29:49.000 He could do stuff.

00:29:50.000 He looks amazing.

00:29:52.000 It's like, I don't know how he got through that insane long career and not got busted up.

00:29:57.000 Yep.

00:29:58.000 I feel like Stone Cold Steve Austin is in reasonably good shape, too.

00:30:04.000 I don't know about that one.

00:30:04.000 I don't know.

00:30:06.000 But I know a lot of those guys, man, they leave that career and they have fake hips, fake backs fused.

00:30:13.000 Everybody has something wrong.

00:30:14.000 Yep.

00:30:15.000 I've been pretty lucky.

00:30:16.000 Like, for the most part, you know, I've had some hardware in my ankle.

00:30:22.000 I've had hardware in my collarbone.

00:30:25.000 I had meniscus surgery on my knee.

00:30:28.000 That's it for your knees?

00:30:29.000 Just one?

00:30:30.000 And it was an elective one, too.

00:30:30.000 Just one.

00:30:32.000 Like, it was a partially torn meniscus.

00:30:35.000 Why'd you decide to get it sniffed?

00:30:36.000 Because I was told that it would be better.

00:30:42.000 I don't know.

00:30:43.000 Like, in the long run, my knee would be better for it.

00:30:47.000 Yeah, I had it done on my left knee.

00:30:49.000 And it was pretty good until a skiing accident a few years ago.

00:30:53.000 And it's been like irritating the shit out of me since then.

00:30:55.000 And then I've had a few other little injuries with it.

00:30:58.000 But the thing about it is like that cushion, once it's gone, it's gone.

00:31:03.000 Like it doesn't come back.

00:31:05.000 And that cushion is kind of important.

00:31:07.000 Like my knee always felt a little loose.

00:31:09.000 Like that cushion is banging around in there.

00:31:11.000 Yeah.

00:31:11.000 They do replace meniscus.

00:31:13.000 They use cadaver meniscus, but it's not 100%.

00:31:17.000 It doesn't always work.

00:31:18.000 I don't know.

00:31:19.000 I think they have to cut the entirety of your meniscus out and put a cadaver one in there and then sew it in place. 0.99

00:31:26.000 That recovery from that meniscus surgery was rough.

00:31:29.000 Really?

00:31:30.000 Yeah.

00:31:31.000 I thought that was one of the easiest ones.

00:31:33.000 For me, man, my knee really hurt for quite a while.

00:31:37.000 Were you doing anything for it?

00:31:38.000 How long ago was this?

00:31:40.000 2006?

00:31:40.000 Is that what you said?

00:31:42.000 How long was it?

00:31:43.000 The knee surgery?

00:31:44.000 The meniscus was recent.

00:31:45.000 That was 2023.

00:31:47.000 Oh, okay.

00:31:48.000 Well, get on some peptides.

00:31:51.000 That'll probably help it.

00:31:52.000 I was.

00:31:53.000 I was doing peptides.

00:31:54.000 Donald Cerroni.

00:31:54.000 Yeah.

00:31:56.000 He got me dialed in with the folks at Transcend.

00:31:56.000 Oh, there you go.

00:32:00.000 He works with those guys.

00:32:00.000 Right.

00:32:01.000 Right.

00:32:02.000 That's how he got super jacked after he retired.

00:32:04.000 Right.

00:32:05.000 I just travel so much that like all of these things that need to be refrigerated, you're traveling with the ice pack and it was like, I get it.

00:32:15.000 It's just like kind of too much.

00:32:17.000 You know what a simple solution, though, is?

00:32:18.000 What's that?

00:32:19.000 Just get yourself like one of them little Yeti thermoses.

00:32:23.000 Put some ice in there and put your peptides in there, throw them in your bag.

00:32:26.000 Simple.

00:32:27.000 That's it.

00:32:28.000 Okay.

00:32:29.000 It keeps it cold, seals up.

00:32:31.000 I was doing testosterone, too.

00:32:33.000 You stopped?

00:32:34.000 I did.

00:32:34.000 Why'd you stop?

00:32:35.000 I just kept forgetting.

00:32:37.000 I was like, oh, and I didn't really.

00:32:41.000 I mean, I don't want to say I didn't notice anything because there are different things going on in my life that I could have attributed.

00:32:50.000 But like, having stopped taking it, I don't notice really any difference.

00:32:57.000 Did you get your blood work done before you took it?

00:32:59.000 I got my blood work done by the folks at Transcend.

00:32:59.000 Well, I did.

00:33:03.000 And, you know, they prescribed it to me.

00:33:03.000 Right.

00:33:05.000 What did they say your levels were?

00:33:06.000 I think my testosterone was like 300.

00:33:09.000 Oh, that's pretty low.

00:33:10.000 Yeah.

00:33:11.000 There's other stuff you could take, though.

00:33:11.000 It's on the other side.

00:33:13.000 There's stuff called, well, you're not even taking peptides.

00:33:16.000 But there's other stuff you could take that could ramp up your natural testosterone.

00:33:21.000 Right.

00:33:21.000 I've been doing more like strength training too, and I know that that does a lot.

00:33:25.000 Yeah.

00:33:26.000 There's a bunch of different things, like deadlifts and squats.

00:33:28.000 They ramp up your testosterone, especially zurcher squats.

00:33:32.000 I could certainly get back into all that because I love the idea of being super healthy, longevity.

00:33:39.000 Yeah, it's good for you.

00:33:40.000 Feel better.

00:33:41.000 Think better.

00:33:42.000 Yeah, and my baseline's pretty good too.

00:33:44.000 Like, I've got my whoop band.

00:33:46.000 And seeing you with a whoop is kind of hilarious.

00:33:51.000 A little concerned about my health.

00:33:52.000 I love it.

00:33:53.000 It's contrary to all my actions for the past 40 plus years.

00:33:56.000 I love it so much.

00:33:56.000 Right.

00:33:58.000 You get so much data.

00:33:58.000 It's great, right?

00:34:00.000 Find out if you're sleeping well.

00:34:01.000 What's your HRV like?

00:34:03.000 I don't know, man.

00:34:04.000 I haven't worn one in a while.

00:34:05.000 Right.

00:34:06.000 Because like today, I'm 113 HRV.

00:34:10.000 I don't know if that's good.

00:34:12.000 It's super good.

00:34:12.000 Is that good?

00:34:13.000 Congratulations.

00:34:14.000 And like my average is like 90.

00:34:14.000 Yeah.

00:34:17.000 That's great, man.

00:34:17.000 I don't know.

00:34:18.000 So you're working out.

00:34:19.000 You're feeling good.

00:34:20.000 Nice.

00:34:20.000 Yeah.

00:34:21.000 Avoid those blows to the head, son.

00:34:21.000 Taking care of myself.

00:34:23.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:34:24.000 Especially as you get older.

00:34:26.000 It seems like a lot of people, when they get older, they're really hard to recover from.

00:34:30.000 Right.

00:34:31.000 The last jackass movie we did, the fourth one, Jackass Forever, they had this huge treadmill. 0.78

00:34:39.000 It's like treadmill for horses.

00:34:41.000 And they got us, they got it just humming.

00:34:44.000 And all of us, a bunch of us, the cast dressed up in marching band, like with marching band.

00:34:51.000 And like we're marching, playing our instruments.

00:34:53.000 And one by one, we'd jump on this treadmill.

00:34:56.000 Right.

00:34:56.000 And it was hilarious.

00:34:58.000 But dude, I got knocked out so cold.

00:35:03.000 I wonder if you could bring that up, Jamie.

00:35:05.000 Like, I was out out for like a, you know, probably the longest I've ever done.

00:35:12.000 How did you get knocked out?

00:35:13.000 I hit my head.

00:35:13.000 What happened?

00:35:14.000 You just fell?

00:35:16.000 Yeah, like as I got spit off the end of this treadmill.

00:35:20.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:35:21.000 Yeah.

00:35:22.000 You just kind of jumped on it.

00:35:24.000 So it looks like Knoxville went through.

00:35:26.000 Oh my God.

00:35:27.000 Oh my God, dude.

00:35:33.000 So I'm like, everyone is awake and I am like super not awake at all.

00:35:38.000 Oh, Knoxville's bleeding from the head.

00:35:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:35:41.000 You guys are so ridiculous. 1.00

00:35:43.000 What a silly way to make a living. 1.00

00:35:47.000 Yeah, don't do that anymore. 0.96

00:35:48.000 Yeah, that.

00:35:49.000 Oh, boy.

00:35:51.000 Yeah, that might have been my worst concussion.

00:35:54.000 But there's been more than that, even.

00:35:57.000 Not 16, but.

00:35:59.000 The one that hurt me the most was Johnny Knoxville when he was in that store and Butterbean beat him up.

00:36:05.000 Oh my God.

00:36:06.000 That was crazy.

00:36:09.000 That one bothered me. 0.95

00:36:10.000 Because if you know how hard Butterbean hits, that's just a silly thing to sign up for. 1.00

00:36:14.000 Let that guy beat the shit out of you. 0.98

00:36:16.000 And then even after he's down, Butterling had him get back up and put him away. 0.99

00:36:21.000 Like, don't let him do that.

00:36:23.000 Right.

00:36:24.000 Especially Butterbean, man.

00:36:25.000 That guy, there's a highlight reel of him putting giant men to sleep.

00:36:31.000 You do not want that guy punched you in the chin.

00:36:33.000 Talk about sweethearts, too, man.

00:36:35.000 What?

00:36:35.000 Butterbean.

00:36:36.000 Yeah, up until that moment.

00:36:38.000 There's a thing with those guys, though.

00:36:38.000 Right.

00:36:40.000 They're so accustomed to hurting people.

00:36:43.000 Yeah.

00:36:43.000 It's like, you want to sign up for this?

00:36:45.000 You sure?

00:36:46.000 I'm sure.

00:36:47.000 Okay.

00:36:48.000 Right.

00:36:49.000 And they're just going to do to you what they've done to a bunch of other people that decided to box them.

00:36:54.000 Yeah.

00:36:55.000 Man, looking at that treadmill.

00:36:56.000 That really was gnarly.

00:36:57.000 Gnarly.

00:36:59.000 Not good. 1.00

00:37:00.000 I mean, you were flying through the air and landed on your fucking head. 1.00

00:37:04.000 Not good, dude. 1.00

00:37:05.000 Not good.

00:37:07.000 That's probably why you forget to take your peptides.

00:37:13.000 I read a story about Jim McMahon, the football player.

00:37:16.000 And that's his name, right?

00:37:17.000 The guy from the Chicago Bears.

00:37:19.000 Yeah, Jim McMahon was the quarterback, right?

00:37:20.000 Yeah, the quarterback.

00:37:21.000 And I think it was a Sports Illustrated article.

00:37:24.000 And they were talking about like, he can't remember anything.

00:37:27.000 He'll be standing in the middle of his living room, not knowing why he's there, where he was going.

00:37:32.000 Doesn't know where his keys are, doesn't know where his phone just like can't.

00:37:36.000 It's just like it just blacks out, comes back, blacks out, comes back. 0.95

00:37:42.000 You'd imagine that that would be more for like linemen because every single play.

00:37:47.000 Those days, though, the quarterbacks got taken out back in those days.

00:37:52.000 That's the 80s.

00:37:53.000 You got to think how much harder the game was.

00:37:56.000 I'm not obviously not a football aficionado or expert by any means, but from what I've been told, the rules are much more favorable today to protect the quarterbacks.

00:38:05.000 Right, okay.

00:38:06.000 And back then, those dudes got good.

00:38:08.000 And it's not just that, man.

00:38:10.000 It's also all the different years you played.

00:38:14.000 Those all count.

00:38:15.000 Like, just because you're only getting knocked out a couple of times as a professional in the NFL, what about all the times he got knocked out in high school?

00:38:22.000 What about all the times he got knocked out in college?

00:38:24.000 Those guys, man, I have a massive amount of respect for football players.

00:38:29.000 I mean, I've watched a lot of high school games in Texas, and I watched a lot of college games at UT. 0.98

00:38:34.000 It is a fucking brutal sport. 1.00

00:38:37.000 I mean, it's no wonder that's the American pastime because it is a psychotic fucking sport. 1.00

00:38:43.000 I love it. 0.99

00:38:43.000 It's fun to watch, man. 0.99

00:38:45.000 I've become a fan.

00:38:48.000 What really I think was the smartest thing the NFL did, they got into the routine with their NFL YouTube channel.

00:38:58.000 At the conclusion of every game, they upload a video to YouTube, which is a condensed version of the game that runs anywhere from like 10 to you know, like 10 to 15 minutes.

00:39:10.000 So, like, you can watch super digestible, more than highlights, like, more than Sports Center, but like, you know, you're only seeing the awesome stuff.

00:39:19.000 Man was involved in Nick.

00:39:20.000 This is one of the dirtiest plays in NFL history.

00:39:22.000 Oh, he's got slammed after the play.

00:39:26.000 After the play slammed on his head.

00:39:28.000 Yeah.

00:39:29.000 That's crazy.

00:39:30.000 This end of this season, this play.

00:39:33.000 I don't know which game of the year it was, but that's not cool, man.

00:39:37.000 Look at him.

00:39:37.000 Yeah.

00:39:38.000 Oh, my God.

00:39:39.000 That's crazy that the dude did that.

00:39:42.000 And what did he get, like a one-game penalty or something?

00:39:44.000 I don't know.

00:39:44.000 Oh, back then.

00:39:45.000 Yeah, back then, it was probably pretty low.

00:39:46.000 Back then, they probably gave him extra Star Wars.

00:39:48.000 Good job.

00:39:48.000 But I hope this reaches the NFL when I say this: is that as much as, and by the end of the season, whatever it was, 2023, 2024, like I was so invested because I was watching these digestible YouTube videos that by the time the playoffs rolled around, I was subscribed to every single different platform because now the stakes are so high, I got to watch the whole game.

00:40:12.000 Like they really converted me.

00:40:14.000 Oh, that's great.

00:40:15.000 Yeah, it was the smartest thing.

00:40:16.000 That's wise.

00:40:17.000 I mean, because you think about it, there's a lot of downtime in football in between plays, a lot of this, a lot of that.

00:40:22.000 People talk.

00:40:23.000 The best thing, but I have a really, really important thing that I want the NFL to know is that they were the thumbnails a lot of the times gave away the outcome of the game.

00:40:36.000 So, and this was a problem that the UFC had for a while.

00:40:40.000 Like, you know, I would be doing my shows, you know, especially if I'm in a comedy club.

00:40:46.000 You know, I've got the second show on Saturday night.

00:40:48.000 So I've missed the whole pay-per-view event.

00:40:50.000 Now I get back to my hotel room and I'm going to watch everything, the whole thing.

00:40:55.000 But then when I go into the video on demand and the thumbnail shows like the winner of the main event, like celebrating.

00:41:03.000 You know, like it's like, oh, so I reached out to Dana.

00:41:03.000 Right.

00:41:06.000 I'm like, Dana, the thumbnails are giving away.

00:41:08.000 And he's like, took care of it, man.

00:41:09.000 Just got off the phone with the head of Disney, the president of the universe.

00:41:13.000 Nice to have that kind of poll, right?

00:41:15.000 And I wish I could do that for the NFL.

00:41:17.000 They don't always.

00:41:18.000 Maybe they will now.

00:41:19.000 Yeah, they don't always give away the game.

00:41:21.000 But for the love of God, please make the thumbnail neutral.

00:41:25.000 So that because the reason why we're clicking on this video is because we don't want to know what happened.

00:41:30.000 We want to watch it and enjoy it.

00:41:32.000 Right.

00:41:32.000 And so, how long are these condensed games?

00:41:34.000 Anywhere from like 8 to 16 minutes.

00:41:37.000 Wow.

00:41:38.000 That's smart.

00:41:39.000 And it's so exciting because if you see like a punt or a kickoff, you know something awesome is going to happen because they'll never include a punt or a kickoff unless it gets run all the way down for a touchdown or if there's a turnover or something like that.

00:41:56.000 So it's like, ooh, there's, you know, like you get excited when you watch these videos if there's a punt.

00:41:56.000 Right.

00:42:01.000 Right.

00:42:01.000 That makes sense.

00:42:02.000 Yeah.

00:42:02.000 UFC does a good job with they do these videos that shows like all the knockouts from a particular event.

00:42:09.000 So anybody who just wants to see knockouts. 1.00

00:42:11.000 Yep, I've been seeing that.

00:42:12.000 And, you know, I've been in situations already since the Paramount deal where I got to go back and watch the whole card.

00:42:21.000 And Paramount, like, it's pretty awesome, man.

00:42:25.000 Like on ESPN.

00:42:26.000 It's not very intuitive.

00:42:27.000 I got to say, it's a little clunky when you're searching for the show because you go to like live TV to watch it.

00:42:36.000 And then if it's not on live TV anymore, like if you go out and you pause it and you come back and try to, and you click on it, it doesn't work.

00:42:42.000 And then you got to find it.

00:42:43.000 And then you got to go to home.

00:42:45.000 And then you got to go down to the UFC and then search out each individual.

00:42:49.000 And then it brings you up a grid of all the stuff that's on TV right now.

00:42:53.000 And then if you click on that, it's not playing anymore.

00:42:56.000 So it tells you it's not on.

00:42:57.000 You got to go back again to home. 0.99

00:42:59.000 It's like, where the fuck is it? 0.74

00:43:01.000 Like, just have a little UFC thing where I could click at the home page and it shows all the matches, what's live, what's not. 0.95

00:43:08.000 Just a little clunky.

00:43:10.000 I think ESPN Plus kind of had it down.

00:43:13.000 And I'm just going to, though, is that, you know, you scroll through to get to the main card.

00:43:22.000 They would have each fight individually up there.

00:43:25.000 And you got to like blur your eyes because on the thumbnail, it says the duration of the fight. 0.98

00:43:30.000 You know, you got a little time stamp and it's like, oh, damn it. 0.98

00:43:30.000 Right. 0.98

00:43:33.000 I'm going to like, I just saw that the you got to not look at that.

00:43:37.000 You got to unblur your eyes, look through the cracks.

00:43:37.000 Yeah.

00:43:39.000 The problem is when you play it, that'll show you how short the amount of time is, you know, how quickly the time is going.

00:43:45.000 Oh, great.

00:43:46.000 Right.

00:43:46.000 Well, you can't like you can't ever skip anything because then the time bar will come up.

00:43:51.000 Do you watch anything else other than UFC?

00:43:57.000 Sports-wise?

00:43:58.000 No, or fighting-wise.

00:44:00.000 Oh, man.

00:44:03.000 No.

00:44:06.000 I've been trying to get Dana White to do a striking league. 1.00

00:44:10.000 I'm trying because like, you know, people still boo and complain when things go to the ground.

00:44:15.000 And if the UFC has time to do like slap fight, which I'm not really into, but if they have time to do that, like do a stand-up only league because there's other organizations that are doing that.

00:44:28.000 You know what?

00:44:28.000 Like the Mike Tyson Jake Paul thing, I understand that they had 100 million viewers.

00:44:40.000 Is that real?

00:44:41.000 I think they did.

00:44:42.000 And then the Jake Paul, Anthony Joshua had like maybe 30 million.

00:44:46.000 Right.

00:44:47.000 So it was nowhere near.

00:44:49.000 But, God, I thought that.

00:44:52.000 Where'd you get those numbers?

00:44:53.000 Just whatever I just saw it on the.

00:44:55.000 Because I don't know if Netflix gives those numbers out.

00:44:58.000 Or maybe they did.

00:44:59.000 Did they say it?

00:45:02.000 108 million.

00:45:03.000 Paul Tyson had 108 million.

00:45:05.000 And then Anthony Joshua, I think it was like 30.

00:45:09.000 Interesting.

00:45:10.000 108 million is crazy. 1.00

00:45:12.000 That's a lot of fucking people. 0.99

00:45:13.000 It's a lot of people, but what a blown opportunity when you think, like, okay, now Netflix had, they knew they were going to have that many viewers. 1.00

00:45:21.000 Or if not that many.

00:45:22.000 They knew they were going to have a lot.

00:45:23.000 They had the opportunity to take the boxing model and fix it.

00:45:23.000 Right.

00:45:30.000 And, you know, and I don't know, like.

00:45:33.000 That Netflix did?

00:45:34.000 Netflix has only had a small handful of events, though.

00:45:34.000 Yeah.

00:45:37.000 Understood.

00:45:38.000 But if you look at the UFC broadcast, just how, like, there's just not downtime.

00:45:44.000 You know, it's like people care about the undercard.

00:45:47.000 I mean, you know me.

00:45:48.000 Like, I'm there.

00:45:49.000 I'm there, like, for the first fight past prelim.

00:45:49.000 Yeah.

00:45:52.000 Some of the undercards are the best fights.

00:45:54.000 For sure.

00:45:54.000 And that's why the contender series is so good.

00:45:56.000 Particularly, yeah, right, exactly.

00:45:59.000 Especially when you see some of these guys coming out of the contender series that are so high level already.

00:46:03.000 There's guys that are getting matched up in the undercard that no one's ever heard of.

00:46:03.000 Right.

00:46:06.000 There are two undefeated fighters that could be world champions.

00:46:08.000 For sure.

00:46:09.000 There's guys that are that good now.

00:46:10.000 Right.

00:46:11.000 And that's what's so great about the UFC is that the whole card's good.

00:46:15.000 The production's insane.

00:46:16.000 There's no downtime. 0.98

00:46:18.000 It's just like you can sit there for fucking six hours, you know, like and be thoroughly happy that you're watching all the time. 0.93

00:46:26.000 But with boxing, there's so much time in between the bouts. 0.98

00:46:30.000 Yes.

00:46:31.000 Like, yeah, they don't do nearly as good a job.

00:46:34.000 UFC, without doubt, is the best promotion in all of conference sports in terms of entertainment, production value, the people in the truck, the experts.

00:46:44.000 100%.

00:46:45.000 They're the best.

00:46:46.000 And that's what I'm saying about Netflix is that they could have fixed it.

00:46:52.000 They could have fixed it.

00:46:53.000 Well, Zoof is trying to do that now.

00:46:54.000 Right.

00:46:54.000 You know, Zoof is trying to do that.

00:46:56.000 They're basically using the promotion machine behind the UFC to start promoting boxing.

00:47:02.000 And they're just getting rolling right now.

00:47:05.000 But they signed some really big guys.

00:47:06.000 They signed Connor Benn. 0.99

00:47:08.000 They signed Jai Apatea, who's a fucking beast. 0.99

00:47:11.000 They signed some legit boxers. 0.99

00:47:13.000 So it should be interesting.

00:47:15.000 Yeah.

00:47:15.000 Boxing is a fascinating sport.

00:47:19.000 It's a mess.

00:47:19.000 I mean, as far as the broadcast goes.

00:47:22.000 Well, I think there's a few companies that know how to do it right, and HBO was the best.

00:47:29.000 And when HBO went off the air with boxing, it was a real bummer because HBO Boxing had been around for decades.

00:47:37.000 They were the peak.

00:47:39.000 That was like the best production team.

00:47:41.000 It was Jim Lampley, Larry Hazard, or Larry Merchant, rather, Roy Jones Jr. sometimes, George Foreman sometimes, and different fighters would sit in sometimes.

00:47:50.000 And it was the app. 0.98

00:47:51.000 Jim Lampley is the fucking best. 0.99

00:47:54.000 It was the best. 0.99

00:47:54.000 It was like the smoothest production. 0.99

00:47:56.000 They were the best with the cameras and the production quality.

00:47:59.000 And they'd get you hyped up about the fight with the little pre-made videos.

00:48:03.000 They didn't drag it out.

00:48:05.000 They knew how to do it.

00:48:06.000 HBO did it right.

00:48:07.000 They did it right.

00:48:08.000 I guess it was like either it was not profitable or something.

00:48:12.000 They just decided to – when they canned HBO Boxer, I couldn't believe it.

00:48:16.000 I was like, after all these years, it's such a crazy thing to do.

00:48:21.000 They were the best. 0.99

00:48:24.000 If you had an HBO boxing card and it was a big fight, fuck, I was pumped. 0.99

00:48:28.000 It was like the quality of the product was so high level. 0.99

00:48:32.000 And they only put on really great fights. 0.98

00:48:34.000 Like, if it got to HBO, that was going to be a great fucking thing. 0.96

00:48:38.000 Wow, comedy specials were the same way, right? 0.98

00:48:38.000 Right. 0.98

00:48:40.000 Sure.

00:48:41.000 Yeah.

00:48:42.000 Now, you know, now it's weird because it's like the landscape is so filled with different platforms.

00:48:48.000 And some guys take money over visibility.

00:48:51.000 Like, there's young guys that have gotten offers for places.

00:48:54.000 And I was like, listen, man, I think you should put it on YouTube.

00:48:57.000 For sure.

00:48:58.000 You're not going to make any money.

00:48:59.000 But you've got to think about that money investing in yourself because I think you're really good.

00:49:03.000 And I think that this material, if you put it on YouTube, it's going to go viral.

00:49:06.000 It'll spread around.

00:49:08.000 Way more people will know.

00:49:10.000 I sorely regret my approach because my comedy specials are multimedia.

00:49:17.000 And I got stuff in there.

00:49:20.000 I mean, the whole point of my comedy with the multimedia is to have stuff that you can't even show on Jackass.

00:49:28.000 It's like extra knotty jackass movie that collides with the stand-up show.

00:49:34.000 And I love that.

00:49:35.000 I have so much fun with that.

00:49:37.000 And when I put out my last one, I did this thing that Andrew Schultz did, The Moment.

00:49:45.000 You know, like it's a paywall.

00:49:48.000 Oh, it's his company moment.

00:49:51.000 And that was me trying to make money off this special.

00:49:54.000 I mean, I spent so much making it, you know, but whatever.

00:49:57.000 I wish that I would have had no paywall whatsoever.

00:50:01.000 I can't put it on YouTube, but put it on my website so that I could get the eyeballs because I think in the long run that would benefit way more.

00:50:08.000 Why can't you put it on YouTube?

00:50:09.000 Because the content?

00:50:10.000 Because it's like nudity, violence.

00:50:14.000 Like literally.

00:50:16.000 That's going to be hard to distribute anywhere.

00:50:19.000 Even on a website, even on your website.

00:50:20.000 That's just hard.

00:50:21.000 That's just hard to get out.

00:50:23.000 Now I have my multimedia specials on my website with no paywall.

00:50:28.000 Totally free, like no ads.

00:50:30.000 Yeah, just go to steveo.com and check it out.

00:50:32.000 Well, Andrew did it very smart.

00:50:33.000 Like you want to see it now pay, and then i'm going to put it on youtube in x amount of months.

00:50:37.000 A lot of people got mad about that.

00:50:39.000 People get mad about everything understood, you got to always remember that man, people get mad about everything.

00:50:46.000 Right, you can't concentrate on that.

00:50:48.000 I think that uh, maybe they're a little bit more of a of a window, because for the people who are like man I just spent, you know well, tell them what the window is right.

00:50:57.000 Just if you you want to do it that way, just tell them i'm going to put it on youtube in three months right understood, but it's.

00:51:04.000 It all is like, how successful are you, right?

00:51:07.000 So if you're a successful comedian, you do that.

00:51:09.000 Then your fans like hey, why do you need more money out of me?

00:51:12.000 Why can't you just release it?

00:51:14.000 But if you're a successful comedian that's been kind of banished, like Louis Cav was for a while, and then Louis Ck has done a brilliant job of putting everything on his website, like Harold And Pete, his animated show, Lucky Louie, all the different Louie the episodes.

00:51:31.000 So what he did was really create his own thing.

00:51:35.000 That is like a one-stop shop of all things Louis Ck 100 and it's really good.

00:51:41.000 And his mailing list yeah, i'm on his mailing list me too, and and whenever I see uh, an email from Louis Ck, I absolutely click on it because it's funny.

00:51:51.000 He does it so masterfully.

00:51:53.000 Yeah, it's interesting and funny and it's entertaining.

00:51:55.000 It's an entertaining little thing that you get and then he lets you know what he's doing and he's never pressuring you into like he's.

00:52:01.000 So he's got the perfect balance.

00:52:03.000 I think of like capitalism and still being an artist.

00:52:06.000 Yep, you know it's the way to do it.

00:52:08.000 But you know, everybody's at their own little path and the problem with someone like Andrew is he's already like really successful, so it's like asking for money for a special.

00:52:17.000 At this point, people are like, come on man, just put it on youtube.

00:52:21.000 You know my next one, i'm absolutely determined to No paywall.

00:52:26.000 Stanhope always said it best.

00:52:27.000 He said, basically, your special is just an ad to get people to come.

00:52:31.000 Bill Burr said that.

00:52:32.000 Yeah.

00:52:33.000 That's really what it is.

00:52:34.000 And, you know, it's also like you got to retire material.

00:52:34.000 Right.

00:52:38.000 Yeah.

00:52:38.000 You know, just let it go.

00:52:39.000 It's so hard.

00:52:40.000 Sail out to sea and light it on fire.

00:52:42.000 It's so hard for me. 0.52

00:52:44.000 Of course it is.

00:52:46.000 Of course it is.

00:52:47.000 It's hard for everybody.

00:52:48.000 Yeah.

00:52:48.000 It's hard for everybody, but it's probably even harder for you because a lot of your stuff is physical.

00:52:52.000 So you have to come up with new things that you could do to yourself, stable your lips shut and addict your asshole. 1.00

00:53:00.000 I'm so happy with what I've got now. 1.00

00:53:03.000 That's good.

00:53:04.000 All right.

00:53:04.000 Yeah.

00:53:05.000 I'm thrilled with it.

00:53:06.000 Okay, so I was telling you, like, I spent this couple years really in the darkness.

00:53:16.000 Kind of in the darkness, yeah.

00:53:17.000 And being very mindful to adjust my approach in a way that I felt really good about.

00:53:26.000 There was a beginning of 2025, and I got like really heavy on like, you know, spirituality and faith.

00:53:36.000 I'm that way anyway.

00:53:37.000 Like, I really, I really, really care about that.

00:53:40.000 January of 2025, I get on, I get this opportunity to have Mark Wahlberg on my podcast, right?

00:53:48.000 Like, and I'm on there, and he's very big into this.

00:53:52.000 Very Catholic, yeah.

00:53:53.000 Yeah, very, very big into Christianity.

00:53:56.000 And I was in the thick of it, too, at that point.

00:54:00.000 I was like, man, you know, like, I'd like been criticism for being too much of a shill and this and that. 0.92

00:54:07.000 Did it really bother you that much?

00:54:08.000 It kind of did, yeah, because I think because I was.

00:54:11.000 Well, because it was accurate.

00:54:12.000 It was accurate. 0.89

00:54:13.000 It absolutely. 0.99

00:54:15.000 For example, last time I was here, I'm like, Joe, my butt wipes for my butthole. 0.99

00:54:20.000 And you're like, that's bad for the plumbing. 0.99

00:54:22.000 It is bad.

00:54:23.000 Right.

00:54:24.000 You can't flush those things.

00:54:25.000 Dude, what I wish I said in that moment when you said how it's bad for plumbing, I'd seen on a package of dude wipes, it said, only flush one at a time, and you'll be okay.

00:54:40.000 Uh-uh.

00:54:41.000 I mean, that's true.

00:54:42.000 Now they've got, dude, I stopped selling those.

00:54:44.000 Don't flush anything other than toilet, period.

00:54:47.000 I've talked to any plumber.

00:54:49.000 No, I'll tell you.

00:54:50.000 Don't flush anything other than toilet paper. 0.58

00:54:51.000 But dude, like the internet had a field day when you shut down my butt wipes plug on here.

00:55:00.000 See?

00:55:01.000 I didn't even know about it.

00:55:02.000 I love that.

00:55:04.000 I love that.

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00:56:17.000 And they had a field day because, like, me with the shilling and you with the point about the plumbing, and it was just like, and like, fuck, I just stopped selling those fucking things. 0.99

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00:56:32.000 It's not our sponsor anymore, but I want to tell people to get it anyway.

00:56:35.000 It's a thing called tushi.

00:56:36.000 Yeah.

00:56:36.000 You put it on your hands.

00:56:37.000 Oh, my God.

00:56:38.000 Dude, every single time I promote tushy on my podcast, I say it is my favorite podcast sponsor that I've ever had. 0.99

00:56:46.000 Excellent.

00:56:46.000 I know that that's not a wise thing to say.

00:56:49.000 Like, if you're, if you think of all the other sponsors, I don't care.

00:56:53.000 I don't care.

00:56:54.000 Well, it's not even our sponsor anymore. 0.99

00:56:56.000 But, but I tell everybody, it's not expensive and it's legit and it cleans your butthole. 0.98

00:57:01.000 And then you just need a little wipe to pat it down. 0.97

00:57:03.000 And it feels drying it off.

00:57:05.000 Also, you feel better. 1.00

00:57:06.000 Like, you don't feel like you smeared shit all over your butt. 1.00

00:57:09.000 Like, I don't know if you have a hairy asshole, but I do. 1.00

00:57:11.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:11.000 I'm hairy everywhere. 1.00

00:57:13.000 It's chaos down there.

00:57:14.000 If I don't trim it. 1.00

00:57:15.000 So it's like you're getting you're wiping shit on the ass hairs. 1.00

00:57:20.000 Sure. 0.99

00:57:21.000 And that's, you know, that's like as soon as I started using the tushi, then I'm like, oh my God, now, if I ever find myself having to take a shit and there's not a bidet, now it's a crisis for me. 0.94

00:57:35.000 Now you're like, ew. 0.97

00:57:35.000 I know. 0.97

00:57:36.000 Now I've got a problem.

00:57:38.000 And that's why having the wet wipes, the butt wipes, like became so important. 0.99

00:57:44.000 Because if I don't have the bidet, like I get it, but if you had shit smeared all over your fingernails and your hand, would you be happy just using a butt wipe and then having a sandwich? 0.99

00:57:54.000 No, you would not. 1.00

00:57:55.000 You would want to wash your fucking hands, right? 1.00

00:57:58.000 Well, yeah. 1.00

00:57:59.000 Butt wipes are okay. 0.70

00:58:00.000 It's okay.

00:58:02.000 It's better than not having them, but you have to throw them in the garbage. 1.00

00:58:04.000 So then you have a shit-smeared wet wipe in the fucking garbage, which is kind of nasty. 1.00

00:58:10.000 And you walk in there, you can smell the shit, and no one's cleaned it yet. 0.99

00:58:13.000 And so then you have to have a plastic bag liner on your garbage can because otherwise Those tushy things, I have one, we have them here at all the not, it's not a tushy, but it's another company on all our toilets. 0.99

00:58:26.000 We have it at the mothership, oh my gosh, it's the best. 0.98

00:58:28.000 You have to have those things, it changes your life, and dude, and when you get the tushy ace, which has the heated sea, the warm water, warm water is the key, and then it blow dries your butthole. 0.97

00:58:44.000 It's ready for presentation, okay? 0.69

00:58:46.000 So, I sit down with Mark Wahlberg, and I, you know, and I'm talking about this, and I say, you know, how like, you know, leaning into faith, like really just like, so important, you know, like so important to me.

00:59:02.000 And I had this meaningful conversation with Mark Wahlberg about that.

00:59:07.000 And then the day the episode comes out, it didn't even occur to me until the day the episode came out.

00:59:14.000 I was hiking with my dog through a fucking state park in Tennessee, and it strikes me, oh my God, I had the audacity, as I knew that the episode went out that day, I had the audacity to cut from this thoughtful conversation about faith with Mark Wahlberg to an ad for gambling. 0.62

00:59:38.000 I was like, oh my God. 1.00

00:59:39.000 I was like, I don't have to be in the comment section to know to see people saying, what a hypocrite. 0.99

00:59:45.000 Like, oh, my God. 1.00

00:59:46.000 Wait a minute, how does gambling make you a hypocrite? 0.99

00:59:48.000 I mean, I just. 0.98

00:59:49.000 I don't think that makes you a hypocrite at all.

00:59:52.000 Listen, the gambling thing online, we should probably address this, is a very hot topic.

00:59:57.000 And a lot of people criticize people for promoting gambling sites online.

01:00:00.000 The problem is not gambling.

01:00:02.000 The problem is people who are addicted to gambling.

01:00:05.000 So the problem is self-control.

01:00:07.000 All right.

01:00:07.000 And I'm not saying I'm a person who's immune to being addicted to gambling.

01:00:12.000 I am sure that given other circumstances in my life, given I could have easily gotten addicted to gambling.

01:00:20.000 But I'm not.

01:00:21.000 And I don't mind gambling on stuff.

01:00:23.000 I think sometimes it's probably fun.

01:00:25.000 The problem is people, you saw Uncut Gems, right?

01:00:30.000 Oh, my God.

01:00:31.000 Best movie.

01:00:31.000 That is gambling.

01:00:33.000 That is the problem with gambling.

01:00:35.000 That is so good. 0.99

01:00:36.000 That's a fucking amazing movie. 1.00

01:00:38.000 Adam Sandler killed it in that movie. 1.00

01:00:41.000 It's such a good movie.

01:00:42.000 Never felt so good.

01:00:43.000 But the whole movie, I'm going like, oh, don't do that. 0.99

01:00:46.000 What the fuck are you doing, man? 0.99

01:00:48.000 Don't do that. 1.00

01:00:49.000 Right.

01:00:50.000 Oh, Jesus, Adam. 0.93

01:00:52.000 Like, I made a decision on that day hiking with my dog.

01:00:52.000 You know what, though?

01:00:56.000 I said, I'm not going to promote anything unless it's good for people.

01:00:59.000 Wow.

01:01:00.000 Good for you.

01:01:01.000 I said, like, I don't want to do harm, man.

01:01:04.000 I don't think it does harm.

01:01:05.000 I think it does harm if you let it do harm, but I think food does harm if you let it do harm.

01:01:09.000 I think alcohol does harm if you let it do harm.

01:01:11.000 I think marijuana, drugs, all kinds of things do harm if you let them do harm.

01:01:15.000 Right, but it's just it's in your face everywhere.

01:01:17.000 I understand. 1.00

01:01:18.000 You know, it's shit. 0.99

01:01:18.000 And I don't want to participate in that. 0.99

01:01:21.000 And I just haven't done it since then.

01:01:22.000 I feel good about that.

01:01:24.000 So all these different things that I've done to be mindful, to feel more good about how I approach my life and my career.

01:01:35.000 And then coming into this year, 2026, I was like, oh man, now with the Mr. Beast come out, I'm like, oh, this is going to change my life.

01:01:42.000 We got a new jackass movie coming out. 0.84

01:01:44.000 I feel really good about how I've restored my integrity. 0.90

01:01:49.000 I feel good about myself for myself.

01:01:52.000 And then, Joe, oh my God.

01:01:56.000 Then I have Harlan Williams on my podcast.

01:02:00.000 Okay.

01:02:01.000 This guy is the most genius.

01:02:06.000 Like that, it's just so like you can't even understand the guy.

01:02:10.000 He's one of the weirdest, funny guys.

01:02:12.000 This snake is on this desk because he kept it in his pants the entire episode, telling us that he had a tapeworm, and then he pulled it out at the end of the episode.

01:02:20.000 And I've left it on the desk ever since.

01:02:22.000 And when Trump was in here, I left it on the desk, and he got so excited.

01:02:25.000 He goes, Hey, buddy, thanks for keeping, what did he call it?

01:02:30.000 Thanks for keeping Dimitri on the desk while Trump was in there.

01:02:34.000 He's just such an oddball.

01:02:35.000 He's so magnificent.

01:02:38.000 Such a great guy, too.

01:02:39.000 And I record my podcast in an RV, right?

01:02:41.000 I got like three different RVs that I use for it.

01:02:44.000 And one I keep in Los Angeles.

01:02:46.000 So we get to Harlan Williams' house. 0.99

01:02:48.000 For some reason, I'm driving and I'm the fucking worst driver ever. 0.98

01:02:51.000 And he's got this small driveway and I'm trying to maneuver it around. 0.99

01:02:55.000 And I get out of the van and I'm like, I don't know how, I don't know how I can be such a fucking bad driver. 0.97

01:03:02.000 And just like that, Harlan Williams says to me, he goes, it's AIDS, Steve-O. 0.99

01:03:06.000 You have AIDS. 0.99

01:03:08.000 Just like the most fucking absurd thing. 1.00

01:03:11.000 And so, like, going into this podcast, I'm like, all right, like, now we're entering the realm of the absurd. 0.96

01:03:17.000 You know, like, let's play with Harlan Williams.

01:03:20.000 Okay.

01:03:21.000 Okay. 0.97

01:03:21.000 At some point in the episode, the most fucking dumb idea that ever popped in my head, but I'm, you know, you want to be like a step ahead and like figure out how like we're going to keep this going. 0.97

01:03:35.000 Like, what am I, you know, like, what's where are we going to next? 0.98

01:03:37.000 Right.

01:03:38.000 So I say to Harlan Williams, I'm like, I think at one point I said, like, I said, how about politics?

01:03:43.000 You know, like, just thinking to myself, this absurd guy, if you ask him about politics, like, like, how does his absurdity navigate that?

01:03:52.000 And that's what motivated me. 1.00

01:03:54.000 So then, somewhere in this back and forth, like, effectively, I say, like, oh, yeah, well, all this shit with ice makes perfect sense because, like, because the majority of immigrants are murderers, right? 1.00

01:04:11.000 This is the most patently fucking absurd comment that I've ever made on the podcast. 1.00

01:04:17.000 And yet, after it comes out, it gets clipped on its own. 0.98

01:04:23.000 And it genuinely looks like I'm not kidding. 0.95

01:04:27.000 Even though you cut to Harlan Williams, but it genuinely looks like I wasn't fucking kidding. 0.90

01:04:33.000 And then I open up my phone and it's like basically rotten hell. 0.99

01:04:39.000 Like you think like all immigrants are murderers. 0.97

01:04:43.000 Like, Joe, I could not. 0.79

01:04:45.000 be more the opposite of that.

01:04:48.000 You're being sarcastic.

01:04:50.000 I could not have been more like, I could not have been less serious. 0.99

01:04:55.000 It was the most absurd, fucking, deliberately sarcastic thing I'd ever said. 0.96

01:05:00.000 And dude, I just like now, and I was in this place. 0.98

01:05:05.000 I was so excited.

01:05:06.000 Like, I was so excited about doing my podcast.

01:05:09.000 It was going, you know, and then now I'm just like deluged with this tsunami of hate.

01:05:15.000 And that's what so, you know, did you respond?

01:05:20.000 I did.

01:05:20.000 Yeah, I just say this is just, I posted on my Instagram.

01:05:25.000 Like, like for clarification, I said, I can't even say, I was so shocked to believe that this absurd comment that I made was like taken seriously.

01:05:25.000 Okay.

01:05:34.000 But like, just, you know, I can't believe I'm going to have to do this.

01:05:37.000 But for the record, you know, less than 0.1% of the population is ever going to commit murder. 0.99

01:05:48.000 Of course, the majority of no group of fucking people is going to commit murder. 0.96

01:05:53.000 But if you want to know how I actually feel, if there's a group of people that's more likely to murder someone, it's Ice Agent. 0.99

01:06:03.000 You know, like, and so then as soon as I post that, now like the whole other half of the world fucking hates me. 0.93

01:06:10.000 Yeah. 0.81

01:06:11.000 I wouldn't have said that either.

01:06:12.000 Right.

01:06:13.000 There you go.

01:06:14.000 You know, like, and my sister is my, my voice of reason.

01:06:18.000 She like, I was like, hey, what do you think about this?

01:06:21.000 And she like made like one small tweak.

01:06:23.000 She's like, go for it.

01:06:24.000 I just posted that.

01:06:25.000 I don't even mind.

01:06:27.000 You know, like, I don't even mind that.

01:06:29.000 I feel like if people are going to hate me, let them hate me for like how I actually feel, you know?

01:06:33.000 Like, is that your watch?

01:06:36.000 How dare you?

01:06:37.000 Yeah, it's my dad. 1.00

01:06:39.000 I put my shit on Don't Do Not Disturb. 0.99

01:06:41.000 Maybe your dad goes through because he's like one of your friends. 0.99

01:06:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:45.000 He's on my speed dial. 0.98

01:06:46.000 But yeah, so it was just a terrible fucking episode that I just went in. 0.97

01:06:51.000 And we set this up like a couple months ago. 0.98

01:06:55.000 Like this happened like maybe three, four weeks ago.

01:06:59.000 So I was like, when I was texting with you, I was like, oh, man, I was in a, you know, like shitty place.

01:07:05.000 I'm feeling really rad, dude.

01:07:06.000 Like, it'd be great to get together.

01:07:08.000 And then now since then, I'm like in a shitty place.

01:07:13.000 Yeah, well, you know, obviously that ICE subject is a very hot subject.

01:07:17.000 Yeah.

01:07:17.000 People have gotten mad at me for my takes on it as well.

01:07:19.000 You just, you have to be able to do that.

01:07:21.000 And you know what?

01:07:21.000 Right.

01:07:22.000 You can just speak your mind.

01:07:23.000 Say what you really feel.

01:07:25.000 If I'm honest, I regret all of it.

01:07:27.000 You know, like, you know, I could have worded my clarification in a way that made a lot more sense.

01:07:34.000 I just, it bothered me so much to be so badly misunderstood.

01:07:39.000 Yeah.

01:07:40.000 You know, like I'm the one. 0.99

01:07:41.000 When you talk sarcastically with a guy like Harlan Williams, when you fuck around and you say things you don't really mean, it's going to happen. 0.98

01:07:49.000 I'm like, Duncan is the best at that. 0.98

01:07:51.000 Like Duncan Trussell, like he will have entire podcasts where he pretends he's in the Illuminati.

01:07:56.000 And I talk to another comic who pretends he's one of the Rothschilds.

01:08:00.000 Our friend Tony gets Tony Casillas gets on his podcast.

01:08:04.000 And what does Tony pretend?

01:08:05.000 A Rockefeller or a Rothschild?

01:08:08.000 One of them.

01:08:09.000 So he, I think it's a Rockefeller.

01:08:11.000 I might be wrong, but I mean, he dyes his hair for the episode and everything. 0.94

01:08:15.000 And like, it's, it's so ridiculous. 0.77

01:08:17.000 And people think he really is one of those people. 0.95

01:08:20.000 Yeah.

01:08:20.000 Meanwhile, he's a doorman at the mothership.

01:08:25.000 But Duncan will go through an entire podcast without breaking character.

01:08:29.000 And they'll talk about how important it is to control the population. 1.00

01:08:33.000 They'll talk about how important it is to, you know, spread misinformation and keep people in the dark and how stupid the plebs are. 1.00

01:08:40.000 Yeah, I just like, I'm too fucking sensitive, man. 0.99

01:08:44.000 Yeah, well, it seems like it's not just that you're sensitive. 0.95

01:08:46.000 It seems like you're seeking out input.

01:08:50.000 You're seeking out feedback.

01:08:51.000 And I just, I think you're a little too famous for that.

01:08:54.000 I just don't think it's healthy.

01:08:55.000 I've known so many people that are loved, loved by so many, and yet they'll still find the people that hate them and dwell on that.

01:08:55.000 Yeah.

01:09:04.000 And I've seen it with like very successful people.

01:09:07.000 Yeah.

01:09:09.000 It's just, Louis said it best.

01:09:10.000 Louis Sigay said it best.

01:09:12.000 He said, the internet is just talk.

01:09:14.000 It's just your, it's written down so it seems more real.

01:09:16.000 You know, because it stays up there forever.

01:09:19.000 But it's just talk, just like people talk at a bar. 1.00

01:09:21.000 Fuck that guy. 1.00

01:09:22.000 You know, people say things and they're not necessarily rational. 1.00

01:09:25.000 They're not necessarily, their opinions aren't necessarily valuable.

01:09:29.000 Some of them are and some of them aren't.

01:09:31.000 But to go through all that and figure it out, the problem is your brain only recognizes threats, danger, and people that hate you. 0.99

01:09:40.000 So you get a hundred people that love you, but one person says you fucking suck, and you'll just think about that guy. 0.99

01:09:40.000 Right. 0.99

01:09:46.000 Like, oh, no, that guy, he used to be a fan.

01:09:49.000 Like, right.

01:09:51.000 I unfollowed him a long time ago.

01:09:55.000 Right.

01:09:56.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

01:09:57.000 And you know, another thing that to that point, here I thought that when this Mr. Beast video came out and I want a million dollars, I gave it to Doctors Without Borders.

01:10:07.000 Like, I just thought, oh, man, this is going to be life-altering.

01:10:11.000 And like it came in, you're like, I had one kid come up to me in an airport and say, dude, you're Steve O for Mr. Beast.

01:10:19.000 And I was like, oh, wow.

01:10:20.000 Different generation.

01:10:21.000 But other than that, I thought it would be life-altering, and it really wasn't, you know?

01:10:26.000 Yeah.

01:10:26.000 And then, so now, like, in this, this little, like, this, whatever you want to call it, backlash, this, like, thing.

01:10:34.000 Like, to me, it feels like the whole world hates me, you know, like when in reality, it's probably not.

01:10:41.000 No.

01:10:42.000 Reality, everybody feels about you the exact same way they did before.

01:10:45.000 It's crazy, man.

01:10:45.000 Right.

01:10:46.000 It's crazy because I'll walk around and think, like, man, like, people are looking at me, maybe they hate me.

01:10:52.000 I was talking to a friend of mine who was one of the earlier ones to get canceled.

01:10:56.000 This was quite a few years ago.

01:10:58.000 This was like more than 10 years ago.

01:11:00.000 Something happened online and someone said something about something that he said that was patently false, but a lot of people believed it.

01:11:07.000 And he made his own statement.

01:11:11.000 But then he said, everywhere I go, he goes, I know this was small and it was only in the comedy community, but everywhere I went, I felt like these people hated me.

01:11:19.000 They knew who they were and they were judging me.

01:11:21.000 So it was like, it was tainting my feelings everywhere I went.

01:11:24.000 Right.

01:11:25.000 Now, imagine being Monica Lewinsky. 1.00

01:11:28.000 Oh, my God.

01:11:29.000 So no internet, right?

01:11:29.000 I know.

01:11:31.000 So this is like, there's no way to tell whether people are siding with you or not.

01:11:31.000 Right.

01:11:37.000 And everybody knows you suck the president's dick and you're 20. 1.00

01:11:40.000 And you have to go to the store, you have to date guys. 1.00

01:11:43.000 And if you don't blow a guy, he's like, what the fuck? 1.00

01:11:47.000 You're like famous for it. 1.00

01:11:49.000 Right.

01:11:49.000 Yeah.

01:11:51.000 Every time she's probably giving heads, she's thinking, oh, my God, why am I doing this?

01:11:56.000 This is what got me in all this trouble in the first place.

01:11:58.000 Right.

01:11:58.000 You know, like imagine that kind of weirdness.

01:12:01.000 Do you remember she did an HBO thing?

01:12:03.000 She did an HBO thing way, way back in the day where she sat down to talk about what this experience has been like for her.

01:12:11.000 And it was weird because there was a guy in the audience that like, she was like taking questions, I guess.

01:12:16.000 And the guy in the audience was like, why are you doing this?

01:12:18.000 Like, you say you don't want attention, but here you are just getting more attention talking about it.

01:12:22.000 And like, you could tell she didn't really think that through, like, that someone was going to have that kind of a response.

01:12:27.000 And it was like, that was at the end of the thing.

01:12:30.000 I think that when you're in that kind of a situation, you want to, on some level, clarify.

01:12:39.000 Like, you know, you want to say your side of it.

01:12:39.000 Right.

01:12:43.000 But your side of it ultimately, for most people, is going to be trying to make yourself look better.

01:12:43.000 Right.

01:12:50.000 Right.

01:12:51.000 And I think that's a problem.

01:12:52.000 Yeah.

01:12:53.000 That's a problem.

01:12:54.000 Because that's very transparent.

01:12:56.000 And people kind of know what you're doing.

01:12:58.000 I think it's always better like what you just did where you said, like, maybe I did overreact, or maybe I shouldn't have done this. 1.00

01:13:03.000 Maybe that's a stupid thing to say. 0.98

01:13:05.000 Like, be much more real about how you feel about things. 1.00

01:13:09.000 Oh, I fucking blew it, Joe. 0.97

01:13:12.000 No, I know, but it means that's, but it doesn't matter, man. 1.00

01:13:14.000 I'm telling you, this is all in your head.

01:13:15.000 Everybody still loves you.

01:13:16.000 All right, well, you're the same guy.

01:13:18.000 The people who love you will always love you.

01:13:20.000 The people who hate you, it's like it's very rare that someone who really loves you hates you. 0.99

01:13:24.000 Like, if they do, they're usually mentally ill and they want to.

01:13:29.000 I remember when I was a kid, people would get mad if bands became famous. 1.00

01:13:33.000 They'd be like, fuck those guys. 1.00

01:13:35.000 They're sellouts. 1.00

01:13:36.000 And I remember we were in high school.

01:13:37.000 I go, let me get this trait.

01:13:39.000 This is me at like 16.

01:13:41.000 I go, you love them.

01:13:43.000 You think they're awesome, right?

01:13:44.000 Yeah.

01:13:45.000 I go, but when more people know they're awesome, then they're not awesome anymore because now they're mainstream.

01:13:50.000 He goes, yeah. 0.99

01:13:51.000 I go, do you know how fucking dumb that sounds? 0.99

01:13:53.000 Either they are awesome or they are not. 0.99

01:13:55.000 If they are awesome, more people should know they are awesome.

01:13:58.000 And we're all just sitting around and a couple of my friends go, yeah.

01:14:01.000 Like, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:14:02.000 This idea of like being underground is fucking retarded. 1.00

01:14:06.000 Like, why would you want that? 0.99

01:14:07.000 If you're great, people are going to find out about you.

01:14:10.000 It doesn't mean you sold out.

01:14:10.000 Right.

01:14:12.000 It just means other people found out you were great.

01:14:15.000 Like, you recognize something and you think you're unique in your talent to recognize really good music and only you can appreciate it.

01:14:23.000 And if other people appreciate it, then all of a sudden it's not good. 0.99

01:14:25.000 That is the dumbest fucking way to think I've ever encountered in my life. 0.98

01:14:29.000 I mean, to be fair, I think that the criticism at that point is when they change. 1.00

01:14:35.000 When they're trying to reach a more broad audience.

01:14:39.000 But there's a lot of bands, for instance, that are not doing that.

01:14:39.000 Right.

01:14:44.000 And they just fucking hit. 0.99

01:14:45.000 Like, people are mad at Nirvana for getting big. 0.99

01:14:48.000 Like, okay.

01:14:49.000 Right.

01:14:50.000 I couldn't agree with De Moore.

01:14:51.000 I'm just being a devil's advocate.

01:14:53.000 I mean, but it's my point is it's a human inclination where you feel like you're a part of a small select group that really values and appreciates something.

01:14:53.000 Well, I get it.

01:15:02.000 And all these normies, these fuckheads listening to fucking Debbie Gibson or whatever they're listening to. 1.00

01:15:07.000 You don't want those assholes listening to super cool music. 1.00

01:15:11.000 But if it's like Nirvana, guess what? 0.99

01:15:13.000 It's so good that everyone is going to want to listen to that.

01:15:16.000 And then it becomes big. 1.00

01:15:17.000 You're like, fuck those guys. 1.00

01:15:18.000 They fucking sold out. 1.00

01:15:20.000 Right. 1.00

01:15:21.000 It's just a dumb, you're just mad at yourself. 1.00

01:15:23.000 You're mad at your life. 1.00

01:15:23.000 You're mad at your position in this universe. 1.00

01:15:25.000 Well, I think that life is just getting really difficult, too.

01:15:29.000 Well, this is now true.

01:15:31.000 Right.

01:15:32.000 But we're talking about people were doing this back in the day. 0.99

01:15:34.000 In the fucking 80s. 0.99

01:15:35.000 They've always done this, man. 1.00

01:15:37.000 This is just how people behave.

01:15:39.000 And you add that to the internet and it just, everything's accelerated.

01:15:43.000 Right.

01:15:44.000 Times 100.

01:15:44.000 Times 10.

01:15:45.000 Times a million, whatever the fuck it is now. 0.97

01:15:47.000 And this is just the beginning. 0.96

01:15:49.000 You know, we're at the brink of something really crazy.

01:15:52.000 As soon as AI takes over our society, which is like within years, we're going to experience the most radical change this civilization has ever seen.

01:16:04.000 It's literally a perfect storm with just the unsustainable debt.

01:16:10.000 Well, that's part of it.

01:16:11.000 I mean, that's a big part of it.

01:16:13.000 Yeah, I mean, that's part of it.

01:16:14.000 But it's like, even if there was unsustainable debt, you have an artificial life form that's emerging that's infinitely smarter than human beings.

01:16:21.000 What I'm saying is that the unsustainable debt, like already over a trillion dollars just paying for the interest alone.

01:16:30.000 Right.

01:16:31.000 Like there's all that now, like, you know, other nations, central banks, whatever, like they like the, they want to de-dollarize.

01:16:40.000 They're not buying the United States treasuries the way they were.

01:16:43.000 And that's like how the United States has been able to overspend is because they can sell the treasuries.

01:16:52.000 Now without people selling the treasuries, the only buyer of the treasuries is the Fed, and they're buying the treasuries with printing money.

01:17:01.000 Is that accurate?

01:17:03.000 I think it's.

01:17:04.000 Other countries aren't buying our treasuries?

01:17:07.000 Less so.

01:17:08.000 It's becoming less.

01:17:10.000 Of course, there's still like the United States Treasury is the most liquid, like, you know, but less so.

01:17:17.000 So when it becomes more difficult for the United States to sell its treasuries, they've got to increase the yield, which means bigger interest payments.

01:17:26.000 So at a certain point, it's like just the paying the interest on the debt is like a crippling thing.

01:17:33.000 And by the Fed printing money the way they're printing, you can't inflate the money supply without devaluing the dollar.

01:17:42.000 So inflation more and more is going to be a thing.

01:17:46.000 Maybe not Weimar Germany or like Zimbabwe inflation, but still inflation is not going to go away.

01:17:54.000 You just can't have the money supply increase without that being the case.

01:17:58.000 And so people's purchasing power goes down.

01:18:01.000 Their wages aren't going up.

01:18:04.000 So like people's people are getting more and more squeezed with how much money they can afford to spend.

01:18:10.000 And then on top of that, AI comes and wipes out all the jobs.

01:18:13.000 Yeah.

01:18:14.000 It's spooky.

01:18:16.000 It's spooky.

01:18:17.000 Because no one really knows exactly what's going to happen, you know, or how it's going to happen or how people will be compensated in order to keep society functional.

01:18:27.000 You know, Elon has this utopian vision of universal high income.

01:18:33.000 Yeah, UBI, universal basic income.

01:18:34.000 No, no.

01:18:35.000 Or universal high income.

01:18:36.000 No, his utopian vision is that so much money will be generated from AI that you'll be able to give people universal high income.

01:18:44.000 So they won't have to work.

01:18:46.000 And so they'll be able to do whatever they want to do with their life.

01:18:48.000 That's the ideal perspective.

01:18:50.000 The problem is, obviously, that people find a lot of identity in their work.

01:18:54.000 Sure.

01:18:55.000 Especially if you went to school for it, you love it.

01:18:57.000 This is the thing you've done.

01:18:58.000 You've been a lawyer your whole life.

01:19:00.000 You've been a doctor your whole life.

01:19:01.000 You've been a this your whole life.

01:19:02.000 And then all of a sudden, AI comes in and wipes that out.

01:19:04.000 And, like, what are you going to do?

01:19:05.000 You're going to play golf all day?

01:19:07.000 And then you have a fixed income now.

01:19:07.000 Right.

01:19:09.000 Because even if it's universal high income, there's no incentive for you to work harder and get more things done and make more money, which is what drives a lot of people and drives a lot of innovation.

01:19:21.000 So then, is all innovation left up to artificial intelligence?

01:19:24.000 Is that what we're really going to do?

01:19:25.000 Because that seems kind of crazy.

01:19:26.000 It's so crazy.

01:19:27.000 I'm going to see our power.

01:19:27.000 I got to wonder.

01:19:29.000 What keeps you going?

01:19:30.000 I mean, like, you're in here doing these podcasts all the time with the UFC with, like, you know, like, you don't have to be doing this.

01:19:38.000 Everything I do is fun.

01:19:40.000 I would do everything I do for free.

01:19:42.000 And I do all the time.

01:19:43.000 I do stand-up for free all the time.

01:19:45.000 I do guest spots all the time.

01:19:46.000 Everybody does.

01:19:47.000 Every comic does.

01:19:48.000 Oh, my God. 0.98

01:19:48.000 Did I have so much fucking fun at Kill Tony last night? 0.98

01:19:51.000 Oh, it's the best show. 0.98

01:19:52.000 It's the best show.

01:19:52.000 He is so unbelievably talented.

01:19:56.000 He's the best host of any live comedy show, rather, of all time.

01:20:00.000 There's no good at it.

01:20:02.000 Like, the amount of time when something is presented that he nails the funniest possible thing that you could react.

01:20:12.000 Yeah, like it's written.

01:20:14.000 Like you had a team of writers sitting there for 100% a week coming up with the best line, and it busts off the top of his head, and it's always mean.

01:20:22.000 He's the best.

01:20:23.000 Okay.

01:20:24.000 He's the best.

01:20:25.000 I know that he's sensitive about, oh man, he wouldn't have wanted me to say I was on it last night.

01:20:31.000 Why?

01:20:31.000 Because before the show, he'd ask the audience, don't give away the secret of who's the guest.

01:20:37.000 It doesn't matter.

01:20:38.000 Then I'll say one thing because it was so funny.

01:20:38.000 All right.

01:20:40.000 Don't say what happened because this show's going to come out before that happened.

01:20:43.000 Right, right.

01:20:44.000 Don't do that.

01:20:45.000 I'll tell you. 0.98

01:20:46.000 It's just suffice it to say that Tony Hinchcliffe has got to be the fastest, wittiest fucking comic I've ever format. 0.96

01:20:55.000 And he created it, right? 0.91

01:20:57.000 So it's like a genius idea.

01:20:59.000 Have comics do one minute. 0.99

01:21:01.000 Dude, comics have done one minute the first time they've ever been on stage at Madison Square Garden in front of 16,000 people and fucking ate dick. 0.99

01:21:13.000 It's a great show. 1.00

01:21:13.000 Right. 1.00

01:21:14.000 And then he has, you know, guys like David Tell, Shane Gillish, you, fucking Harlan is like one of the greatest guests of all time. 0.97

01:21:22.000 Donnell. 0.95

01:21:23.000 Yeah, yeah, Donnell is amazing.

01:21:25.000 He's got, I mean, there's just so many.

01:21:29.000 There's so many.

01:21:30.000 And like.

01:21:30.000 Right.

01:21:31.000 Kyle Dunnegan, who does like five different characters that are incredible.

01:21:35.000 Yeah.

01:21:35.000 Such high-level comics.

01:21:37.000 Adam Ray.

01:21:37.000 Uh-huh.

01:21:38.000 I mean, maybe, well, right, but I'm saying like high-level feature comics who aren't like super known.

01:21:44.000 Who do one minute as well? 1.00

01:21:46.000 You're seeking out to go.

01:21:47.000 I brought my opener from tour.

01:21:50.000 A guy who's not like widely known, but I just love him.

01:21:53.000 And he's so funny.

01:21:54.000 He's so good.

01:21:56.000 And he put his name in the barrel?

01:21:57.000 Put his name in the barrel.

01:21:58.000 That's the thing, too.

01:21:59.000 If people asking me to get them on Kill Tony, I cannot.

01:22:02.000 No one can.

01:22:03.000 That is true.

01:22:04.000 That barrel is legit.

01:22:06.000 That barrel is legit.

01:22:07.000 You reach into that barrel.

01:22:09.000 Tony grabs whatever piece of paper his hands touch and he pulls it out.

01:22:12.000 And that's how it's always been done.

01:22:14.000 And that's how he's always going to do it.

01:22:15.000 Because people come to him all the time.

01:22:17.000 Hey, could you get my friend on the show?

01:22:18.000 He's like, I cannot do that.

01:22:20.000 That is the show.

01:22:21.000 Thank God.

01:22:22.000 It's got to be chance.

01:22:23.000 It's got to be chaos.

01:22:24.000 That's part of the fun of it. 0.98

01:22:26.000 And then every now and then, someone that you've never heard of comes up and does a minute and everybody goes, fuck yeah, that was awesome. 0.97

01:22:32.000 And they kill it, and all of a sudden they have a career. 0.97

01:22:32.000 Right. 0.97

01:22:34.000 Right.

01:22:35.000 It's great.

01:22:36.000 Okay.

01:22:37.000 It's the cornerstone of stand-up, too.

01:22:39.000 It really is.

01:22:40.000 Because it's wild.

01:22:42.000 It's like there are no rules.

01:22:43.000 It's no holds barred.

01:22:45.000 And you've got great comics on the panel and it has launched careers.

01:22:49.000 For sure.

01:22:50.000 So because of that, it is so important for us having Kill Tony at the club.

01:22:55.000 It's so important because it sets the tone for all these comics to know, like, hey, this isn't just like some random thing of I don't know what I'm doing.

01:23:05.000 How do I get seen?

01:23:05.000 How do I figure it out?

01:23:07.000 Like, there's a pathway. 1.00

01:23:08.000 And if you can get on Kill Tony and if you can work your ass off before then and build up a real solid routine and go on there and kill it, you can have a fucking career. 0.99

01:23:17.000 It's real. 1.00

01:23:18.000 Yep.

01:23:18.000 And then the club has two nights of open mic nights and there's a real development program and the real talent coordinator, Adam Egan, who watches sets and gives you feedback.

01:23:27.000 The opener that I'm talking about, and he drove all the way from Tampa to be there last night.

01:23:33.000 His name's Chris Harvey.

01:23:35.000 He's 6'4, 480 pounds, like missing tooth, beard, funniest guy ever.

01:23:35.000 I love him.

01:23:44.000 Where's he from?

01:23:45.000 He's from Ohio.

01:23:49.000 Is it Dayton?

01:23:50.000 I'm not sure where or not, but I was at a comedy club in Fort Wayne, Indiana, and they just set him up to open for me.

01:23:58.000 I watched his set.

01:23:59.000 I was like, what are you doing for the next three weeks?

01:24:01.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:24:02.000 Yeah.

01:24:02.000 That's awesome.

01:24:03.000 So did he get up on the open mic?

01:24:05.000 That's why I texted Tony, like, hey, I've got this opener.

01:24:08.000 Can I get him on?

01:24:10.000 And Tony said, I can get him in the bucket.

01:24:12.000 Who knows if I'll pull him out?

01:24:13.000 But I can also get him on the open mic to perform for the booker.

01:24:18.000 So he did that.

01:24:19.000 Nice.

01:24:20.000 Nice.

01:24:21.000 Yeah, it's important that you can't just get on the show.

01:24:24.000 Because then his phone would be just overrun with people.

01:24:24.000 Yeah.

01:24:27.000 Get my boy on. 1.00

01:24:28.000 And then some of them suck. 1.00

01:24:30.000 That makes perfect sense. 0.99

01:24:31.000 Yeah, you have to just let it happen. 1.00

01:24:32.000 If they suck, they suck. 1.00

01:24:34.000 They don't. 1.00

01:24:35.000 You know, it's like anything can happen.

01:24:37.000 And that's part of the beauty of it.

01:24:39.000 It's like a real magical moment when you reach into that bucket and you pull out a name and Bob Smith.

01:24:44.000 And then Bob Smith comes on out and gives it a shot.

01:24:47.000 I mean, dude, I just had so much fun, man.

01:24:50.000 I don't like being on the end because you're too close to these psychos.

01:24:54.000 You never know.

01:24:55.000 Like, I'm always on edge.

01:24:57.000 That's funny.

01:24:58.000 You want to be like protected by one body.

01:25:00.000 Apologies to Tony for giving away that I was on it last night.

01:25:04.000 He's not going to care.

01:25:06.000 That, you know, I want to talk about.

01:25:09.000 I watched Brian Callan's special very recent at the mothership. 0.95

01:25:15.000 Like it was like, you got all these people, like, you know, whenever anybody put, that's the thing about fucking comedy is it's so subjective that like it's just if anybody can shit on a special if they want. 0.96

01:25:30.000 And I saw these like YouTube videos, like, oh, Brian Callan, this is the most worst bomb is going to end his career. 0.95

01:25:36.000 And I was like, come on, let me watch this.

01:25:41.000 I fucking enjoyed the hell out of Brian Callan special is one that he just taped at the mothership. 0.81

01:25:47.000 That's great. 0.98

01:25:47.000 You got to stop paying attention to people. 0.98

01:25:49.000 Yeah.

01:25:49.000 I enjoyed it.

01:25:50.000 These people want it to suck. 0.99

01:25:53.000 There's people that think everything thinks Chappelle's last special sucked. 0.99

01:25:57.000 Oh my God.

01:25:57.000 Can you talk about that?

01:25:59.000 I haven't seen it yet.

01:26:02.000 But I heard it was awesome.

01:26:03.000 The Riyadh.

01:26:04.000 The people that I trust.

01:26:05.000 The Riyadh Comedy Festival, right? 0.98

01:26:07.000 Like, it was such an apocalyptic fucking nuclear bomb in the world. 0.98

01:26:13.000 Did you go to that? 0.99

01:26:14.000 I didn't.

01:26:14.000 No.

01:26:15.000 But there was so much backlash from people who went to it.

01:26:19.000 And there were like individual comics had their, you know, their own way of kind of defending their move to, you know, a lot of comments were very defensive about how they went.

01:26:31.000 And a lot of them maybe like were seemed a little bit disingenuous about like about in their defense.

01:26:38.000 And then, dude, Dave Chappelle puts out this special and so unapologetic about him being at the Riyadh comedy. 0.62

01:26:48.000 It was just like, it was so fucking masterful. 0.91

01:26:52.000 He's a master. 0.97

01:26:53.000 The way he was just like, oh, like I went to Riyadh and got paid like a fuck ton of money to do comedy. 0.72

01:27:00.000 And like, so unapologetic. 0.76

01:27:03.000 And it was just like, oh my God.

01:27:05.000 Well, the idea is that you support the regime by doing stand-up over there, which I think is crazy because you're doing it for the audience members.

01:27:11.000 And the audience members have no say in who their government is. 0.74

01:27:14.000 They're literally like, I'm not even, I don't even have a judgment whatsoever, especially because have I ever not watched a UFC event because it happened in Saudi Arabia or fucked up or Dubai or wherever. 0.75

01:27:28.000 Right.

01:27:29.000 You don't do that with sporting events, but you do it with comedy.

01:27:31.000 I think the idea is that comedians are supposed to be social commentators and they're supposed to carry a baton for free speech. 0.99

01:27:37.000 And one of the particularly egregious things that's been attributed to Saudi Arabia was the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, who was a journalist from the Washington Post, who was killed at the Turkish embassy and they cut him up with a fucking bone saw and some dark shit. 0.99

01:27:54.000 Yeah, I get it. 0.98

01:27:55.000 I get the criticism and I get people saying, well, I'm going to perform for my audience and my audience is over there.

01:28:03.000 And if they say, I can't make fun of, I think you can't make fun of the monarchy.

01:28:07.000 You can't make fun of the leaders or the government and you can't make fun of Islam or religion.

01:28:12.000 I think maybe it might just be religion, period.

01:28:15.000 Yeah, I think you can't be disparaging of Islam or the royal family.

01:28:19.000 Yeah.

01:28:20.000 All right.

01:28:20.000 Well, you've got to decide then if you know what those perimeters are, you know, if you maybe it doesn't fit with your act at all, or maybe like, I don't have any bits about the royal family, or I could just go over and do my act for a bunch of people uncensored.

01:28:35.000 I mean, I thought about it.

01:28:35.000 Right.

01:28:38.000 I see both sides. 0.99

01:28:39.000 I don't give a shit one way or the other. 0.99

01:28:41.000 My only input here is that Dave Chappelle, like, checkmated. 0.98

01:28:47.000 And he handles everything perfectly.

01:28:49.000 And again, he's not on social media.

01:28:51.000 He's not paying attention to people's opinions of him.

01:28:53.000 You cannot because there's so many people that have decided that he was a horrible transphobe for telling a story about his transgender friend.

01:29:01.000 Like, I mean, literally, he told this story about this person and his act, and people didn't care because he made jokes about trans people.

01:29:08.000 Like, of course, it's in the public eye. 0.99

01:29:11.000 This idea that you can't joke about something is fucked. 1.00

01:29:13.000 If there's a thing you can't joke about, that thing is fucked up. 1.00

01:29:16.000 And that's why the Lakota used to have a sacred clown. 0.99

01:29:20.000 They called it a Hioka.

01:29:22.000 And a Hioka was like a member of the community that was supposed to make fun of everything. 1.00

01:29:26.000 And if you couldn't make fun of anything, then you knew something was wrong with that thing.

01:29:31.000 Because if there's a thing that you can't joke around about, that thing has been compromised.

01:29:37.000 Because you can kind of joke around about everything if it's actually funny.

01:29:40.000 No matter what it is.

01:29:41.000 Sure.

01:29:41.000 Even tragedy given enough time, you can joke around about it.

01:29:45.000 Yep.

01:29:45.000 I mean, you could do a 9-11 joke right now and no one's going to blink.

01:29:50.000 Oh, my God. 0.98

01:29:51.000 You remind me of what I think was the funniest fucking tweet that I ever saw from Jeff Ross. 0.98

01:29:58.000 Going back, the year I want to say was like 2016, the Magic Castle in Los Angeles. 0.98

01:30:06.000 There was, you know, a magician was found hanging in a closet in the Magic Castle.

01:30:15.000 Yeah, he committed suicide.

01:30:16.000 Had taken his own life.

01:30:17.000 Yeah.

01:30:18.000 That morning, Jeff Ross tweeted that his last words were, Abra cadaver.

01:30:29.000 Jesus Christ. 0.99

01:30:31.000 That's fucking funny. 1.00

01:30:32.000 That's such a Jeff Ross type joke. 1.00

01:30:34.000 That's a Tony Hitchcliffe type joke, too. 0.98

01:30:36.000 Yeah, silly. 0.96

01:30:37.000 Abracada. 0.98

01:30:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:30:39.000 I mean, if there's a thing that you can't make fun of, that thing is usually bullshit. 0.95

01:30:43.000 And if that thing is trans people, then you are ignoring that there's a glaring hole in this narrative that you're trying to push and whether or not people are accepting that narrative. 0.98

01:30:54.000 You know, I'll be spilling out some of the stuff that I have in my current hour, and I really don't mind.

01:31:04.000 For me, I feel like the bars got to keep getting higher and keep getting higher. 0.98

01:31:08.000 And so, as I went into putting together this new hour that I'm touring with, one of my multimedia bits, like, ended up not being a really great idea, but I thought, I'm going to get a fucking boob job. 0.96

01:31:21.000 Oh, yeah, I heard about that. 0.96

01:31:22.000 Right.

01:31:23.000 I didn't.

01:31:23.000 Did you do it?

01:31:25.000 I was within 10 hours of being under the knife.

01:31:29.000 And, like, the universe just intervened, right?

01:31:32.000 Because they have to cut your muscle, man.

01:31:34.000 Right.

01:31:34.000 Well, like, I mean, you know, the.

01:31:36.000 Don't they?

01:31:37.000 Or do they go under the skin?

01:31:38.000 They go through the unique.

01:31:39.000 You can do it in multiple different ways.

01:31:41.000 I was, uh, I was told, um, I was interested in just the idea.

01:31:47.000 See, because like I, I, uh, I'm, I'm now in my 50s, right? 0.85

01:31:51.000 And so, like, my whole new hour is, is the theme of it is how the fuck is Steve-O supposed to be in his 50s, you know, like, and so with the putting the stuff up my butt section is like the importance of like we're at an age we got to get prostate exams, colonoscopies, you know, that's a real thing. 0.89

01:32:10.000 And so, I'm trying to like destigmatize the prostate exam. 0.97

01:32:15.000 Right. 0.99

01:32:17.000 Definitely not putting things up your ass for entertainment. 0.99

01:32:17.000 Right. 0.99

01:32:20.000 I'm, I'm, I'm blending it together, and it's pretty awesome. 0.99

01:32:24.000 And, you know, one of my things is like, you know, it's a rite of passage for men in middle age to one day you realize, holy fuck, I'm getting tits. 0.99

01:32:34.000 You know, like, like, I noticed it one time. 1.00

01:32:39.000 I'm like, I'm fucking, I got dimples, you know, like actual fucking under boob over here. 0.99

01:32:44.000 And it's fucking like, this wasn't supposed to happen to me. 0.99

01:32:48.000 And so, like, that kind of was my motivation. 0.98

01:32:51.000 I'm like, if this is going to happen, then, like, I'm lashing out at Father Time.

01:32:55.000 I'm going to get a boob job. 1.00

01:32:57.000 So, I had the guy, famous plastic surgeon from Botched, Terry Dubrow, on my podcast.

01:33:04.000 Is he one of those guys that fixes people?

01:33:06.000 Yeah, botched.

01:33:07.000 I love that guy.

01:33:07.000 He's great.

01:33:08.000 Happened to be brothers with the lead singer of Quiet Riot, too.

01:33:14.000 No way.

01:33:14.000 Yeah.

01:33:15.000 Come off.

01:33:16.000 Yeah.

01:33:17.000 Terry DeBrux.

01:33:18.000 And he was epic.

01:33:20.000 So on the podcast, I was like, hey, I'm thinking about a wild, crazy stunt, like get a boob job and then just like film a bunch of pranks and stunts and then get it out.

01:33:30.000 Like wild publicity stunt.

01:33:31.000 I feel like the whole world's going to know about it.

01:33:34.000 And he had me take off my shirt and he's like, he's like, yeah, your skin is already loose enough.

01:33:42.000 You could fit double D implants.

01:33:44.000 He says, but you got to get them out within two months or the stretching would be unmanageable. 0.92

01:33:51.000 And I'm like, In my head, I'm thinking this is the loudest, fucking craziest, like this is where the bar is at, you know? 0.84

01:34:00.000 Like, the you need better friends. 0.97

01:34:03.000 You really do. 0.99

01:34:04.000 The level of commitment to do something that fucked up.

01:34:08.000 Like, I just thought, and I was really into the idea, and I got super commitment. 0.70

01:34:14.000 Call me next time. 0.98

01:34:16.000 Just fucking call me, dude. 0.99

01:34:18.000 Dana said the same thing. 0.99

01:34:19.000 Yeah, don't do that.

01:34:20.000 Dana said the same thing.

01:34:22.000 So now, like, I had blabbed it to the media, which is why you'd heard about it.

01:34:28.000 So, you know, there are all these articles. 0.98

01:34:31.000 It's the night before my fucking operation, and I get a phone call from the doctors, whatever guy. 0.96

01:34:37.000 He says, hey, buddy, we hit a snag, man. 0.99

01:34:39.000 Like, the anesthesiologist backed out.

01:34:43.000 You know, we got to reschedule the surgery. 1.00

01:34:44.000 I'm like, fuck, man. 0.99

01:34:45.000 So now the next day, they're trying to reschedule it. 1.00

01:34:49.000 And I'm buying groceries in the supermarket in LA.

01:34:54.000 And the person ringing me up on the cash register is, like, seems pretty evidently transgender. 0.98

01:35:02.000 And I'm just like, dude, it's like the fucking universe is giving me signs over here, you know? 0.98

01:35:08.000 And so I ask this. 0.99

01:35:10.000 Didn't even occur to me up to this point that I'm going to, that I need to like run it by anybody because I'm like, fuck it, my body, my choice. 0.99

01:35:17.000 Who cares? 0.99

01:35:18.000 You know, I'm doing a dumb stunt to like, you know, be crazy. 0.99

01:35:21.000 But in this situation, talking to this transgender person, like, hey, can I run something by you? 1.00

01:35:28.000 And I spoke with them. 0.97

01:35:30.000 They described to me a level of oppression that genuinely fucking broke my heart.

01:35:36.000 They said, hey, let me tell you, like, I am not allowed to use the bathroom at my own place of work. 0.87

01:35:42.000 We've got like politics.

01:35:43.000 That's not true.

01:35:44.000 They're just not allowed to use the bathroom. 1.00

01:35:45.000 It doesn't align with their biological sex.

01:35:48.000 Okay.

01:35:49.000 But you got to realize they're not all.

01:35:52.000 Listen, I genuinely think there's people that feel like they are in the wrong biological sex.

01:35:59.000 Sure.

01:36:00.000 Right. 1.00

01:36:00.000 But there's also people that are fucking perverts and they have a thing called autogynophilia. 1.00

01:36:06.000 And what that is, is they get a turn on by pretending to be a woman. 1.00

01:36:09.000 They get excited by it.

01:36:11.000 And they want to be around women. 0.94

01:36:12.000 And they're creeps. 1.00

01:36:13.000 And so you give them a fucking Willy Wonka golden ticket. 1.00

01:36:17.000 You go into the women's locker room and the women's bathroom and stare at women and pretend you're a woman when you're just a crazy man and you're actually into women. 1.00

01:36:26.000 Okay. 0.99

01:36:26.000 That's real too, man. 0.99

01:36:28.000 I don't doubt that that's real.

01:36:29.000 And I know that it's a super complex, nuanced thing.

01:36:33.000 And I think.

01:36:34.000 Yeah, but here's what's not complex.

01:36:36.000 What is your chromosomes?

01:36:38.000 Right.

01:36:38.000 Okay.

01:36:39.000 This is the same thing for competing. 0.99

01:36:41.000 All these fucking mental gymnastics that seemingly intelligent people do to justify biological males competing with females. 0.98

01:36:49.000 And I don't think anybody is. 0.99

01:36:50.000 It's the same thing.

01:36:52.000 It's the same thing.

01:36:53.000 Right.

01:36:53.000 And especially as speaking as a man who has daughters, like there are creeps.

01:36:59.000 And if you give a creep, and I'm not saying all trans people are creeps. 1.00

01:37:03.000 But a lot of these fucking people that are in trouble for going into women's bathrooms dressed as a woman with a fucking beard and a heart on are just that. 1.00

01:37:13.000 They're creeps. 1.00

01:37:14.000 They're crazy men. 1.00

01:37:15.000 And these crazy men, their entire life, they would get beaten up for that. 1.00

01:37:19.000 And now all of a sudden, they have to be accepted.

01:37:21.000 So you've got two things going on at the same time.

01:37:24.000 For sure.

01:37:24.000 You've got people with gender dysphoria that genuinely wish they were a woman or genuinely wish they're a man.

01:37:31.000 And by the way, it's men that are the problem. 0.99

01:37:34.000 No one gives a fuck about trans men going into the men's bathroom. 0.99

01:37:39.000 Come on in. 1.00

01:37:40.000 Who cares?

01:37:41.000 Who cares? 1.00

01:37:41.000 Oh, a girl's going to shit next to you? 1.00

01:37:41.000 Right. 1.00

01:37:43.000 Or what is she going to do?

01:37:45.000 She's going to pee out of a funnel? 1.00

01:37:46.000 What is she going to do?

01:37:47.000 Like, no one's going to get hurt.

01:37:49.000 No one's going to get hurt.

01:37:50.000 This is the problem.

01:37:51.000 When you allow perverts to have this hall pass to go into women's locker rooms and bathrooms. 1.00

01:37:57.000 So you can't say you're not allowed to use the bathroom where you work.

01:38:02.000 That's not true.

01:38:03.000 You're just not allowed to use the women's room where other women are in there because you're not a woman. 1.00

01:38:08.000 And I know you wish you were a woman or whatever's going on. 0.77

01:38:12.000 Okay.

01:38:13.000 But you're not.

01:38:14.000 You make a very, very good point.

01:38:16.000 If you're a woman, talk to most women about this. 0.99

01:38:19.000 And it's unless they're insanely captured by this woke ideology where they can't see reality and the fact that perverts are still a real fucking thing. 0.99

01:38:28.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:38:29.000 And this loophole.

01:38:30.000 You've given loopholes.

01:38:32.000 Like there's men in prison.

01:38:33.000 I think it's like 47 biological males in California are housed in women's prisons.

01:38:39.000 Some of them are sex offenders.

01:38:41.000 Some of them in Canada. 0.81

01:38:42.000 There's a guy in Canada that they had to pay for his boob job while he was in jail for being a sex offender and they put him in a women's prison.

01:38:51.000 Yeah.

01:38:52.000 I'm not arguing with that. 0.91

01:38:53.000 There's men who have pretended to be women, gone into women's prison, had sex with women and impregnated them. 1.00

01:38:59.000 There's men who have sexually assaulted and raped women in prison that are pretending to be women with functional dicks. 1.00

01:39:07.000 All they have to do is identify, air quotes, when you just have to identify. 1.00

01:39:11.000 That's it?

01:39:12.000 No operation, no nothing, identify.

01:39:16.000 That is bonkers.

01:39:17.000 And do you think they're giving them estrogen when they get in prison?

01:39:20.000 Do they give hormone replacement therapy to people in prison?

01:39:23.000 I don't know.

01:39:24.000 I don't know.

01:39:25.000 But even then, it's still a man with estrogen. 1.00

01:39:28.000 You can't escape your fucking chromosomes, okay? 1.00

01:39:31.000 And until you can, until there's some sort of a CRISPR thing that you really want to want to be a woman, we can turn you into an actual woman. 0.99

01:39:38.000 Until that happens, what you're dealing with is a form of gender dysphoria, which has always been classified as a mental illness until people became much more empathetic and sensitive to people that have this problem.

01:39:52.000 Right.

01:39:53.000 And you make a completely valid argument. 1.00

01:39:57.000 Nobody should be able to tell you you can't do something fucking stupid like get a boob job because they are transgender. 1.00

01:40:03.000 That's understood. 1.00

01:40:05.000 Understood.

01:40:05.000 My experience was that I didn't get any of this sense that this was a creepy pervert, anything like that.

01:40:18.000 I just thought. 0.73

01:40:19.000 They don't have to be a creepy pervert. 0.96

01:40:20.000 Right. 0.91

01:40:21.000 But it's still a man.

01:40:21.000 Right.

01:40:22.000 I understood.

01:40:23.000 I just thought, man, I heard what they had to say about, you know, politicians trying to put them in internment camps.

01:40:34.000 Who's doing that?

01:40:35.000 What politicians are saying they should be putting in tournament camps?

01:40:37.000 I think that there was some kind of a...

01:40:39.000 There might be one kook out there that's saying that to try to get attention.

01:40:43.000 There's no movement to try to put transgender people in internment camps.

01:40:47.000 Okay, well then I'll land on this.

01:40:49.000 Do you know who's killed more people than ICE this year? 0.98

01:40:53.000 Trans shooters. 0.98

01:40:54.000 Do you know the majority of these high school shootings have been transgender people? 0.97

01:40:59.000 I did not know that.

01:41:00.000 Yeah.

01:41:01.000 How many of them?

01:41:02.000 There was one recently.

01:41:05.000 And yeah, it's a lot of them.

01:41:07.000 You know why?

01:41:07.000 Because they're giving them psych medications.

01:41:09.000 They're giving them a bunch of crazy hormones. 1.00

01:41:11.000 And a lot of them probably have mental struggles already.

01:41:15.000 And they're ostracized from society and fill in the blank.

01:41:19.000 And then they're empowered by thinking that the world has done something bad to them and that there's like a genocide against trans people.

01:41:27.000 And they attack J.K. Rowling and they attack all these people.

01:41:30.000 Martina Novartilova, who's like a famous lesbian for being a bigot because she doesn't want biological men competing with women in tennis. 1.00

01:41:38.000 It's nuts, man. 0.97

01:41:39.000 And it's like either you go by biology or you do not. 0.99

01:41:45.000 Either you go by XY chromosome or then you're in this weird fucking gray area where someone could just tell you they're a woman. 0.97

01:41:54.000 And that's how you get men in women's prisons. 1.00

01:41:56.000 Yeah.

01:41:57.000 All right.

01:41:59.000 You've convinced me.

01:41:59.000 It doesn't mean you can't be kind.

01:42:01.000 Yeah, but it doesn't mean you can't.

01:42:03.000 I try to be kind to everyone.

01:42:05.000 And if I meet someone who's trans, if they want me to call them Stacey or whatever, like I know a couple trans people.

01:42:10.000 My friend Jim Norton is married to a trans woman.

01:42:13.000 I'm super cool with them, hug her every time I see her.

01:42:16.000 I'm cool with that.

01:42:17.000 But at the end of the day, if I was a woman, I want biological women in my – I think the solution is individual bathrooms whenever feasible. 1.00

01:42:27.000 And if you want to have an all-gender bathroom, good luck with the legal ramifications of that if it's a bar because then any guy can fucking go in there and any guy and girl can get a – if it's a multiple stall bathroom. 1.00

01:42:39.000 But the solution is X, Y, Chromosome. 0.72

01:42:39.000 Right. 0.72

01:42:42.000 The solution is like if a guy walks into the men's room with a dress on and he's trans, just leave him alone. 0.77

01:42:48.000 Leave him alone. 0.91

01:42:49.000 Let him go to the bathroom. 1.00

01:42:50.000 Like, what is the big deal?

01:42:51.000 Yeah.

01:42:52.000 You're like, at the end of the day, we have to understand that, like, what is more important?

01:42:57.000 One person's feelings or the safety of all these women.

01:43:00.000 And the safety of all these women is much more important.

01:43:03.000 Yep.

01:43:04.000 So you got to be kind to people, but also you got to have rules.

01:43:08.000 There's a reason why there's a woman's room and a men's room. 1.00

01:43:11.000 It's because some men are fucking creeps. 0.99

01:43:13.000 And if you allow those creeps to just put on a dress, well, you and again, I'm not saying all trans people are like this at all, but you can't have that loophole. 1.00

01:43:21.000 You can't, let's say you can't have an open border.

01:43:24.000 Doesn't mean that all immigrants are murderers, and you don't think that either, right?

01:43:27.000 But some people that sneak across the border if you don't check are going to be murderers.

01:43:33.000 It's just a fact.

01:43:34.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:43:35.000 So you have to have a fucking closed border to check and you have to have a gender border too. 0.99

01:43:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:43:39.000 Well, goddammit. 0.77

01:43:40.000 And my only takeaway from my experience that I was relating to you is that it made me feel compassionate. 0.94

01:43:47.000 Well, that's good.

01:43:48.000 And I want to be a good guy.

01:43:49.000 That's good. 1.00

01:43:50.000 A better reason would be it's fucking stupid to get a boob job. 1.00

01:43:53.000 Don't do it. 1.00

01:43:54.000 No one's going to like you more.

01:43:56.000 I think you're cool because you got a boob job at 52.

01:43:59.000 I'm glad.

01:44:00.000 I'm glad that.

01:44:00.000 How old are you now?

01:44:01.000 51.

01:44:02.000 Yeah, that's too old for a boob job. 1.00

01:44:03.000 Yeah.

01:44:04.000 Even if you're a girl. 1.00

01:44:05.000 Unless you just got divorced, you're like, I need some new dick. 1.00

01:44:08.000 I'm really glad that I didn't do it. 1.00

01:44:08.000 I got to go. 1.00

01:44:10.000 Yeah, me too. 1.00

01:44:12.000 If you were here with a boob, with two giant boobs, I'd be like, I don't know what to say to this guy. 1.00

01:44:16.000 This is so stupid. 1.00

01:44:17.000 You know who's into the idea, thought it was fucking really funny was Bert. 1.00

01:44:22.000 Of course. 1.00

01:44:24.000 Also, he has his own boobs. 0.99

01:44:28.000 Right. 0.99

01:44:29.000 Bert goes back and forth, but he's light now.

01:44:31.000 He quit drinking for like six months.

01:44:34.000 Oh, man.

01:44:34.000 And he had a little bit of a health scare.

01:44:36.000 His fucking sitcom on Netflix is. 0.99

01:44:39.000 It's really good. 1.00

01:44:40.000 He's funny, man.

01:44:41.000 He's a fun dude.

01:44:42.000 It's just like he's another guy that is like a little overexposed.

01:44:47.000 He does so much promotion and so much stuff, like you.

01:44:50.000 You know, like the talking about that thing where you get the feet, the negative feedback.

01:44:53.000 You got a lot of negative feedback for over-promoting shows, but don't listen.

01:44:58.000 Don't watch it.

01:44:59.000 Who cares?

01:45:00.000 Right.

01:45:01.000 If you think he's promoting himself too much, just don't pay attention.

01:45:04.000 Let me run this by. 0.99

01:45:05.000 There's shit to be angry about in the world. 0.99

01:45:07.000 Sure. 0.99

01:45:07.000 Burt Kreischer promoting a comedy special is not on that list. 0.99

01:45:12.000 Right.

01:45:13.000 Let me run this by you.

01:45:15.000 Okay.

01:45:16.000 Okay, so I decide I'm only going to promote things that are healthy, you know, or at the very least, don't do harm.

01:45:24.000 Okay.

01:45:25.000 I felt really good about that.

01:45:26.000 So what are you promoting that you have a problem with?

01:45:26.000 All right.

01:45:31.000 I see this guy, Brian Johnson.

01:45:35.000 Oh, the guy who wants to live forever.

01:45:37.000 Yeah, the guy wants to live forever.

01:45:38.000 I'm fascinated by him.

01:45:39.000 I had him on my podcast, and he's a unique guy.

01:45:45.000 But I see him, he's on this warpath against AG1. 0.99

01:45:50.000 And I'm like, God damn it. 0.98

01:45:53.000 I'm like. 0.99

01:45:54.000 Right, but he sells a competing supplement.

01:45:56.000 Right, that sounds pretty good.

01:45:57.000 Here's the thing about it. 0.97

01:45:59.000 For what it's worth, I drink AG1 every goddamn day and I'm not. 0.97

01:46:02.000 It's a vitamin. 0.98

01:46:02.000 It's a multivitamin. 0.98

01:46:04.000 It's not the end-all, be-all.

01:46:06.000 It's going to fix your health.

01:46:07.000 But vitamins are good for you.

01:46:09.000 And if you can get vitamins in a simple travel pack like AG-1 has and throw them in your book bag and take them with you places, it's better than not having vitamins, period.

01:46:18.000 That's it.

01:46:19.000 That's all it is.

01:46:20.000 Yeah.

01:46:21.000 I think part of the problem that people had with AG1 is maybe they overstated some of the benefits of the probiotics and prebiotics.

01:46:29.000 Like when people have analyzed the nutrient density of these packs and what the ingredients is, that's been their criticism.

01:46:37.000 But criticizing a multivitamin that you're taking in a liquid form, like that seems kind of silly.

01:46:42.000 Like it's, is it going to be the best thing that you've ever done for your health?

01:46:46.000 No, being in shape and eating well is the best thing you've ever done for your health.

01:46:50.000 But having like some sort of nutritional insurance, some sort of a little thing, little thing that you add to your food every day, to your, you know, your diet.

01:47:01.000 It's designed to fill in the gaps in your diet.

01:47:04.000 It's a good thing to have vitamins, period.

01:47:07.000 That's it.

01:47:07.000 Vitamins are good.

01:47:09.000 And it tastes good.

01:47:09.000 I like it.

01:47:10.000 A lot of people say AG1 is very good.

01:47:10.000 It's simple.

01:47:11.000 It doesn't taste good.

01:47:12.000 I like the way it takes it.

01:47:13.000 You know, and if you think it's too expensive or you think it's not good enough, then okay, don't take it.

01:47:17.000 Whatever.

01:47:18.000 But if you take it, it's not bad for you.

01:47:20.000 There's a lot of things that are bad for you.

01:47:22.000 Again, it's not bad for you. 1.00

01:47:23.000 It's fucking vitamins. 0.99

01:47:24.000 It's pretty simple. 1.00

01:47:25.000 Pretty simple stuff.

01:47:26.000 Okay, good.

01:47:27.000 Take it or don't take it.

01:47:28.000 Who cares? 1.00

01:47:30.000 You know, people worry too much, again, about stupid fucking shit. 1.00

01:47:33.000 You have a brief amount of time in this. 1.00

01:47:35.000 You're halfway dead, Bubba. 1.00

01:47:36.000 You know, you don't have much time on this planet to be worrying about stupid shit. 1.00

01:47:40.000 Thank you, Joe. 1.00

01:47:42.000 Thank you.

01:47:42.000 Yeah.

01:47:43.000 Don't do it, man.

01:47:43.000 Don't.

01:47:44.000 Okay, I just want to be a good guy.

01:47:47.000 Yeah.

01:47:47.000 That's my thing.

01:47:48.000 Then just be a good guy.

01:47:49.000 But don't worry about it all the time. 1.00

01:47:51.000 That shit ain't good for you. 1.00

01:47:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:47:53.000 Don't be in your head.

01:47:54.000 You know what?

01:47:55.000 You're in your head worrying about your public image.

01:47:57.000 You're in your head worried about where you are in your career.

01:47:59.000 You're in your head.

01:48:00.000 Just do your best.

01:48:01.000 Just do your best all the time.

01:48:03.000 Yeah.

01:48:05.000 If you enjoy what you're doing and you do your best, everything's going to be fine.

01:48:09.000 Yeah.

01:48:10.000 Or not. 0.96

01:48:12.000 Or you die.

01:48:13.000 You know, like you can't control that either.

01:48:15.000 So what do you just keep going?

01:48:17.000 Yeah.

01:48:18.000 Just stop being in your head.

01:48:19.000 Everybody is like, you know, you've got this all mapped out.

01:48:22.000 And a lot of what you're mapping out is other people's opinions of you. 0.96

01:48:26.000 Like, oh, there's no better way to fuck up your life than to live for other people's opinions. 0.97

01:48:31.000 There you go. 0.99

01:48:32.000 Yeah.

01:48:32.000 I mean, do self-auditing, do some self-assessing.

01:48:36.000 You know, there's many times in my life when I'm unhappy with myself.

01:48:39.000 And so I don't, I fix it.

01:48:41.000 Figure it out.

01:48:42.000 Fix it.

01:48:44.000 Do better.

01:48:44.000 Fix that.

01:48:45.000 Fix this.

01:48:46.000 Don't do as much of that.

01:48:47.000 Do less of this.

01:48:48.000 Do more of what you think is good.

01:48:51.000 You know?

01:48:52.000 Yeah.

01:48:53.000 Try to be a nicer person.

01:48:54.000 Try to be kind.

01:48:55.000 Like, it's like you can, but don't sit around worrying about what each individual commenter thinks about you.

01:49:01.000 God, that's crazy for you.

01:49:03.000 You're absorbing too much negativity.

01:49:05.000 And this is the message that I give to everybody.

01:49:07.000 Look, there's a great benefit to social media.

01:49:10.000 It's an amazing tool and it's changed society.

01:49:13.000 However, it's just like gambling.

01:49:16.000 It's just like pornography.

01:49:18.000 It's just like food. 1.00

01:49:19.000 You can get wrapped up in it and it could be your whole fucking life if you let it. 0.99

01:49:24.000 It's been over a decade since I watched porn. 1.00

01:49:27.000 That's awesome.

01:49:28.000 Yeah.

01:49:31.000 Good for you.

01:49:32.000 And some people, it's been about five minutes.

01:49:36.000 Some people are watching porn on a split screen right now while they're watching this. 0.91

01:49:40.000 They're jacking off right now to a gangbang while they're listening to Steve-O talk about how, oh, you're missing out.

01:49:47.000 You know how many people are subscribed to OnlyFans?

01:49:49.000 We were looking this up the other day.

01:49:50.000 It's like, what are the numbers of Americans?

01:49:53.000 It's something shocking.

01:49:54.000 It's some insanely shocking number.

01:49:57.000 It's like 100-plus million subscribers to OnlyFans.

01:50:01.000 Man.

01:50:03.000 And then with women, it's somewhere between like the ages of 18 to like 20-something. 0.98

01:50:11.000 It's like 10% of the population is on OnlyFans.

01:50:14.000 As content?

01:50:16.000 As content creators.

01:50:17.000 Wow.

01:50:18.000 Yeah.

01:50:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:50:21.000 So that's what's weird is because like if you think about it, if you fuck on camera, right? 1.00

01:50:26.000 You're kind of, you're a porn star, right? 1.00

01:50:29.000 But maybe you're only fucking your boyfriend. 1.00

01:50:31.000 Maybe you wear a mask. 1.00

01:50:32.000 Okay.

01:50:33.000 But you're are you doing it for money? 0.94

01:50:37.000 What if you have sex with other people for money? 0.99

01:50:39.000 Is that prostitution? 1.00

01:50:40.000 So what if they just said, well, let's just legalize prostitution? 1.00

01:50:43.000 Do you know how many fucking people would become prostitutes if they got desperate? 1.00

01:50:46.000 Like Uber driver, prostitute. 1.00

01:50:48.000 Right. 1.00

01:50:49.000 You know, what do you want to do?

01:50:50.000 Like, there's a lot of people who would go into prostitution.

01:50:53.000 And some people think they should have that right to do that.

01:50:55.000 And it should be freedom and freedom of expression and freedom of occupation.

01:51:00.000 And then other people go, that might not be the best for society.

01:51:04.000 I had this crazy thought at one point.

01:51:07.000 What are the numbers for OnlyFans?

01:51:10.000 There's no official numbers.

01:51:11.000 It's somewhere in the range of 100 to 150 million, but only 4% of those are actually people who pay.

01:51:18.000 Oh, how's that work?

01:51:20.000 They're free accounts.

01:51:21.000 Okay.

01:51:21.000 So what percentage of people that pay?

01:51:23.000 Sorry.

01:51:23.000 4%?

01:51:24.000 Four?

01:51:25.000 4.2.

01:51:26.000 Four?

01:51:28.000 Oh, so there's 100 million people accessing free content, and 4% of the users actually compete paid transactions.

01:51:38.000 Wait a minute, but does it cost money to join?

01:51:40.000 Nope.

01:51:41.000 It doesn't cost to join.

01:51:42.000 It's up to the person who's making the content.

01:51:44.000 So is a paid transaction mean you subscribed?

01:51:47.000 Depends.

01:51:49.000 So if you go on OnlyFans, you have to subscribe to each person's content, right?

01:51:55.000 Yes.

01:51:55.000 Okay.

01:51:56.000 So it's only 4% that are doing that.

01:51:59.000 So over 100 million creepers are just checking it out.

01:52:03.000 Well, that's where you go.

01:52:05.000 People have multiple accounts.

01:52:06.000 Right.

01:52:07.000 That's a good point.

01:52:09.000 Why?

01:52:10.000 Well, various reasons.

01:52:11.000 I wouldn't get into that.

01:52:13.000 Jamie's got multiple accounts?

01:52:17.000 I've never subscribed to one of those.

01:52:19.000 Of course not.

01:52:20.000 I was joking.

01:52:21.000 But I mean, so 4% is not as much, but it's.

01:52:24.000 4 million people that are paying.

01:52:27.000 4 or 5 million people.

01:52:28.000 Yeah.

01:52:28.000 Still a lot.

01:52:29.000 Paying.

01:52:31.000 And what are the percentage of young girls that are on OnlyFans as content creators? 0.95

01:52:36.000 And they're not all showing the cooch.

01:52:38.000 Some of them are just a little nip slip, maybe just a bikini shot, G-string, bend over.

01:52:46.000 But it's still.

01:52:47.000 But then you've got like the bad baby chick make like $50 million on there. 1.00

01:52:52.000 What did she do on there?

01:52:52.000 I know, that's crazy.

01:52:53.000 I don't know.

01:52:54.000 I have no idea.

01:52:55.000 According to these numbers, 4 to 4.6 million creators worldwide with 1 million of them being in America.

01:53:02.000 Oh, that's it?

01:53:03.000 So when they said it's 10% of girls 18 to 49, what percentage of girls, not 18 to 40, 18 to 25, I think that was the number.

01:53:13.000 What percentage of girls, put that in, 18 to 25 in America, have an account on OnlyFans?

01:53:20.000 Percentage of girls between 18 to 25 in America have an account on OnlyFans.

01:53:29.000 Okay, let's see here.

01:53:30.000 Let's see what it says.

01:53:34.000 10%.

01:53:36.000 14% of American women aged 18 to 24 have an OnlyFans account.

01:53:41.000 That's crazy, dude.

01:53:42.000 That is really crazy.

01:53:43.000 That's crazy.

01:53:44.000 14% of American women age 18 to 24 have an OnlyFans account.

01:53:49.000 That is wild.

01:53:51.000 It's just an estimate, though, just for argument's sake.

01:53:54.000 Yes.

01:53:54.000 Because there are not official numbers, I don't think, in any way.

01:53:57.000 I had this crazy thought. 0.93

01:53:59.000 Hypothetically. 0.97

01:54:00.000 That's a crazy estimate. 0.94

01:54:03.000 Hypothetically, if you had like a brick and mortar establishment with a bunch of chicks in there and an ordained minister so that like a guy could walk in, pick out a woman and Marry them on the spot. 0.98

01:54:21.000 So then now that's your wife and you are consummating your marriage.

01:54:26.000 That's got to be totally legal.

01:54:28.000 And then as you leave the establishment, you annul the marriage.

01:54:33.000 Is that not like that?

01:54:37.000 That's a loophole.

01:54:38.000 That's the prostitution loophole. 1.00

01:54:40.000 Well, one thing you could do is you could have a thing where you could fall in love immediately and get married and then give someone citizenship.

01:54:47.000 But as soon as you come and visit you, they want to see if you're like really in love.

01:54:47.000 Right.

01:54:53.000 Like they're like, how long have you guys known each other?

01:54:56.000 It's crazy.

01:54:57.000 Let me see you hold hands.

01:54:58.000 I know.

01:54:58.000 Let me see you kiss.

01:54:59.000 I know a bunch of people who have gotten married for just citizenship.

01:55:02.000 Oh, yeah.

01:55:02.000 I know a dude who married a girl for citizenship.

01:55:05.000 Yeah.

01:55:07.000 But you got to stay married.

01:55:09.000 Yeah.

01:55:10.000 He did it for her.

01:55:11.000 She was. 1.00

01:55:12.000 Fuck, where was she from? 1.00

01:55:13.000 I forget. 1.00

01:55:14.000 But they didn't even really have a relationship.

01:55:15.000 I think she was from Russia.

01:55:18.000 They seem to tend to be from Russia.

01:55:20.000 Yeah, it was just like they made a deal.

01:55:22.000 I think it was a financial deal.

01:55:23.000 This is the 90s.

01:55:24.000 She's dead now.

01:55:26.000 Okay, I want to ask you, do you believe in reincarnation?

01:55:30.000 I don't not believe in it.

01:55:31.000 I think that there's like pretty like solid evidence.

01:55:38.000 If not irrefutable, but like you got little kids that are like giving like details that check out total, like, you know, and they know like.

01:55:49.000 There's another alternative.

01:55:51.000 That alternative is genetic memory.

01:55:53.000 And so we know that some memories are transferred through genes.

01:55:57.000 And this is one of the reasons why arachnophobia exists.

01:56:01.000 Arachnophobia is an irrational fear of spiders. 0.96

01:56:04.000 The idea is that at some point in your genetic lineage, someone got really fucked up by a spider.

01:56:10.000 Either you witnessed someone dying from a spider bite or you almost died from a spider bite and that memory is transferred through the genes. 0.72

01:56:17.000 The same with aphidiophobia, which is a fear of snakes.

01:56:20.000 There's irrational fears that some people have that they attribute to a possible genetic memory.

01:56:26.000 And then there's also genetic memories that are in animals that we know for a fact.

01:56:32.000 Like a dog does not have to be taught.

01:56:34.000 Like I have a golden retriever.

01:56:36.000 Marshall.

01:56:37.000 He's the best.

01:56:37.000 Marshall.

01:56:38.000 And you don't have to teach Marshall to bring a ball back.

01:56:40.000 He's a retriever.

01:56:41.000 He has some sort of a genetic memory.

01:56:44.000 And he also, I didn't have to teach him to pee in a bush and lift his leg.

01:56:48.000 Like he knew how to do that.

01:56:49.000 He just, it's in their, it's in their system, right?

01:56:52.000 There's a bunch of things that are in their system.

01:56:54.000 They see animals, they get excited, they want to bite them.

01:56:57.000 Like it's not a learned behavior. 0.99

01:56:59.000 Like that dog's super well-fed, but he will fuck a squirrel up if he catches it. 0.99

01:57:03.000 Why? 1.00

01:57:03.000 Because it's in his genetics. 1.00

01:57:05.000 It's a predatory instinct.

01:57:07.000 So then with humans, think about all the different things that humans learn and think of all the different fears that humans have and how many of them are programmed.

01:57:07.000 Right.

01:57:16.000 Like Rupert Sheldrake had a really important point once about what children are afraid of.

01:57:23.000 He goes, when you think about it, what are children afraid of?

01:57:25.000 They're afraid of monsters in the dark, right?

01:57:28.000 They're not afraid of child molesters or murders or rapists and car accidents.

01:57:34.000 They're not afraid of things that really can harm them.

01:57:36.000 They're afraid of monsters.

01:57:38.000 And most children, especially living in a city, have never seen a monster, right?

01:57:42.000 So why are they afraid of this thing?

01:57:44.000 Well, it's because there's a genetic memory of us being preyed on by cats. 0.99

01:57:50.000 And big cats who killed people forever hid in the trees, they hid in the dark, and you would go out to get water and they'd fuck you up and kill you. 0.98

01:57:57.000 And so that is in little kids' memories. 0.85

01:58:00.000 So if there's these kind of peripheral abstract memories or really radical, sharp memories that don't make sense, like arachnophobia and things like that, it's so possible that it's not just those things that are transferred through the genetics, but also learned experiences and maybe even information.

01:58:21.000 You just don't have a way of expressing it yet.

01:58:23.000 That's one of the reasons why you'll notice that a lot of the children of talented musicians are really talented, even when they're adopted, even when they grew up in different families.

01:58:33.000 They might have never even been around that parent, but they have some sort of innate musical talent or literary talent or something.

01:58:43.000 I think there's some things that get transferred in DNA that we're not totally aware of.

01:58:48.000 It's not like you get a menu list of all the things that you got from your parents.

01:58:53.000 Oh, look, my dad was into history.

01:58:54.000 That's why I'm into history.

01:58:56.000 Look at all these things.

01:58:57.000 I think there's a lot of stuff that transfers that maybe gets filed away, and maybe other people have access to those memories that you don't.

01:59:07.000 Like there's weird levels of memory retention.

01:59:11.000 We were talking about Mary Lou Henner from Taxi the other day.

01:59:14.000 What's that disease she has? 1.00

01:59:15.000 It's not a disease.

01:59:16.000 It's the opposite of a disease.

01:59:18.000 It's an amazing ability.

01:59:19.000 She has this incredible ability.

01:59:20.000 You can tell her July 2nd, 1976.

01:59:24.000 She could tell you it was a Tuesday.

01:59:25.000 She could tell you what happened, what was in the news, who did what, what she did, what color clothes she was wearing.

01:59:30.000 Highly superior autobiographical memory.

01:59:33.000 Now, imagine if that, whatever that is, that incredible memory, is passed genetically occasionally and passed into some children, and then they don't just get the memory of their own life, but they get the memory of previous lives that other people have lived.

01:59:52.000 Okay.

01:59:52.000 So you think about how many different generations of human beings had to exist before Stevo was born.

01:59:58.000 You have all of this DNA and all of this information inside of your genes, supposedly.

02:00:05.000 Maybe you can access some of that.

02:00:07.000 And that some of it that you're accessing might be what we're calling reincarnation.

02:00:12.000 Okay.

02:00:13.000 What is this, James?

02:00:14.000 Is the doctor who is a specialist in reincarnation at the University of Virginia?

02:00:18.000 His name is Dr. Jim Tucker.

02:00:19.000 He's continuing the work of a previous doctor.

02:00:22.000 I think Hammond is his last name.

02:00:24.000 These are the two most repeated stories I've heard about that people talk about.

02:00:24.000 Interesting.

02:00:28.000 There's a kid that repeats stories of a plane crash when he's a pilot.

02:00:33.000 He's got a lot.

02:00:34.000 There's further videos I've watched on this kid.

02:00:36.000 So many details are insane.

02:00:37.000 Details verified against historical records of a pilot who died 50 years or earlier matching exactly despite no prior family exposure.

02:00:47.000 Okay, well, that's very different.

02:00:48.000 He went to people and recognized them, I think, and even pointed out some of the things that I've seen.

02:00:51.000 Well, yeah, there's a lot of things.

02:00:52.000 Okay, so that, but here's the thing: if that kid is not related in any way to this person who died from the plane crash, I don't believe so.

02:01:00.000 Then we're talking about something totally different then.

02:01:02.000 But what you are getting at, there is discussions of this kind of overall work.

02:01:08.000 I think it's on here where people talk about that.

02:01:11.000 Deepak Chopra says it's a little bit like quantum physics.

02:01:14.000 So how this happens isn't known, obviously, because this guy even says it starts, I think, between like age two and by age five or so, all the memories are kind of gone and they don't remember this stuff anymore.

02:01:25.000 Wow.

02:01:25.000 It's like very fleeting.

02:01:26.000 You can't really ask a lot of questions.

02:01:28.000 They have to just tell you.

02:01:29.000 And if you start asking too many questions, they freak out.

02:01:31.000 Some of the kids start crying and they don't eat, like it goes away.

02:01:35.000 It's very odd, but there's well, what's really odd is that it goes away.

02:01:39.000 Yeah.

02:01:39.000 That's really odd.

02:01:40.000 Well, as you were saying with Mary Lou Henner, hers doesn't even start until she was age 11.

02:01:44.000 Interesting.

02:01:45.000 So she's always little kids. 0.82

02:01:47.000 It's always little kids that have memories of past lives.

02:01:53.000 And they're supposed to name the Dalai Lama based on a kid having a memory.

02:02:02.000 You know, it's supposed to be a reincarnation thing.

02:02:05.000 You know, I'm fascinated by that.

02:02:07.000 And also, I'm kind of in the same vein of it, so many irrefutable examples of where consciousness is evident separate from the brain.

02:02:21.000 Like you've got the, you know, like people with no brain activity whatsoever.

02:02:27.000 You know, like they're, they're officially dead.

02:02:29.000 You know, they're in the hospital.

02:02:31.000 And they wake up, come back to life, or whatever the case may be, and they're explaining to the doctor what was happening while they were unconscious.

02:02:42.000 And to the extent that that can maybe be explained for what they were in the room, a lot of these cases, they wake up and they say what the doctor was doing in a different part of the hospital.

02:02:57.000 You know, like there's a case of a guy, a doctor, he was like, you know, had a patient and he's in the cafeteria at the hospital.

02:03:08.000 He gets like spills spaghetti on his shirt or something.

02:03:11.000 He's like, oh man, I got a stain on my shirt.

02:03:13.000 And so he puts his lab coat over it and does it up. 0.99

02:03:17.000 And then the patient wakes up and says, oh, yeah, I saw you spilled the shit on your shirt. 0.98

02:03:21.000 There's a lot of evidence of consciousness operating separate from the brain. 0.93

02:03:29.000 And I had the most fascinating conversation with Duncan Trussell about the idea that the brain is not a generator.

02:03:41.000 It's not a transmitter.

02:03:43.000 It's an antenna.

02:03:44.000 Yeah, it's an antenna.

02:03:46.000 And that explains a lot of stuff to me about the soul.

02:03:50.000 I was saying to Duncan Trussell, imagine that we're more of a radio, like an antenna.

02:03:59.000 You can take a radio and with a sledgehammer just smash it to smithereens.

02:04:05.000 You've done nothing to disrupt the actual signal.

02:04:09.000 So that signal can now tune in, be picked up by another radio.

02:04:15.000 And that kind of explains reincarnation to me on some level.

02:04:19.000 And Duncan Trussell hears that.

02:04:21.000 He goes, yeah. 1.00

02:04:22.000 And you got so many fucking people walking around. 0.99

02:04:26.000 They don't realize they're a radio. 1.00

02:04:27.000 They think they're the fucking Beatles. 1.00

02:04:32.000 That's hilarious. 1.00

02:04:35.000 Yeah.

02:04:36.000 Duncan's so funny.

02:04:37.000 He's so good.

02:04:38.000 Such a unique human.

02:04:39.000 Yeah.

02:04:39.000 And so all this stuff is like super fascinating to me.

02:04:44.000 It is interesting, but there's no answers.

02:04:46.000 So it's like, there's a reason why so many societies and so many civilizations for a long time have believed in reincarnation, afterlife, that there's some sort of disembodied consciousness.

02:05:00.000 Consciousness.

02:05:00.000 There's a reason.

02:05:01.000 But then it gets really weird.

02:05:02.000 It's like they've also believed in beings that have come down from the heavens.

02:05:07.000 So what are those things?

02:05:08.000 Pyramids.

02:05:10.000 What are those things?

02:05:11.000 What's that about?

02:05:12.000 Who are those people?

02:05:13.000 How about near-death experiences?

02:05:15.000 Well, near-death experiences you could attribute to a lot of things, right?

02:05:19.000 One of the things you could attribute to is an endogenous dump of psychedelic chemicals that we know the brain makes under stress.

02:05:26.000 And one of the big ones is dimethyltryptamine, which we know your body makes.

02:05:31.000 And there's a lot of people that think that it's sort of a chemical gateway and that what you're doing is getting a peek into the afterlife when you're having these DMT experiences and that when you're having a near-death experience, that's your brain flooding with DMT to prepare you for leaving this world.

02:05:53.000 Okay.

02:05:54.000 It's just weird that they all have a very similar thing about going through a tunnel and a light at the end of the tunnel.

02:05:59.000 It's like this, it's a journey.

02:06:02.000 And what is, you know, I haven't had a near-death experience.

02:06:05.000 I don't know what it's like.

02:06:06.000 You know who had one?

02:06:07.000 Jeremy Renner.

02:06:08.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:06:10.000 With the snowmobile accident.

02:06:11.000 Like I'm so fascinated by near-death experience videos on YouTube.

02:06:16.000 You got people, thousands of people who have had the experience of dying, been on the other side, and they describe what's called life review.

02:06:24.000 Okay, like there's the saying that everybody's familiar with that when you die, your life flashes before your eyes.

02:06:31.000 However, the way that these people describe it, it's that on the other side of death, like as a spirit, like somehow the concept of time is like, doesn't apply anymore.

02:06:46.000 So you've got like, it's not like that your life flashes before your eyes because time isn't like there's no time constraint.

02:06:54.000 So you've got like unfathomable like immersion, you know, without time.

02:07:00.000 And that it's not that you're, you know, experiencing your life as you as you experienced it, but rather you're they describe experiencing your life in the most like, you know, I guess important memorable moments from the perspective of the people who you influenced, you know, the people who you had an impact on.

02:07:23.000 And it's not just from their perspective, but in this near-death experience life review, the way that they describe it, you are those people.

02:07:32.000 You know, it's like, and every, you know, all the scriptures, all the spirituality, like there's this, this, the idea that separation is an illusion.

02:07:44.000 That at the end of the day, that there's only oneness.

02:07:46.000 We're all one thing.

02:07:48.000 We're all eyes in the same head.

02:07:50.000 You know, we're all the same thing wearing different costumes.

02:07:53.000 So that begs the question, like, why are we separate?

02:07:53.000 Right.

02:07:56.000 Like, what's the purpose for being separate?

02:07:59.000 Like, as I understand it, the way that what I've bought onto is that the universe, you know, everything, you know, like God, in the absolute form, God as one thing cannot have experience because there's nothing to relate to.

02:08:22.000 And so God in the absolute sense is kind of a, it's pure love.

02:08:28.000 It's this pure awesome, but it's very lonely, you know, proposition.

02:08:34.000 So the idea of the separation is the universe, God, like blasts itself into infinite different things to create the realm of the relative.

02:08:47.000 So now there's, you know, we have the separation.

02:08:50.000 So now we can relate to one.

02:08:52.000 This allows for God to experience itself, which you would never be able to do.

02:08:58.000 You would never be able to have up and down or, you know, anything.

02:09:02.000 And so it's like the whole point is for experience.

02:09:06.000 Right, but what's the benefit of experience for God?

02:09:09.000 To To know itself.

02:09:12.000 So, this is in regards only to human beings or to all animals? 1.00

02:09:17.000 Different, like the souls, and I go down these fucking rabbit holes, dude.

02:09:24.000 Like, particularly recently, I did this whole audio book, a modern English version of a book that was published in 1857 by a French dude named Alan Kardec, who it's called the Spirits Book. 0.96

02:09:44.000 And, you know, you've got all these mediums that he's communicating with and putting together all this definitive book on spiritism.

02:09:52.000 Right.

02:09:53.000 And the way that that book describes it is that animals have souls, but not souls with moral implications of the growth.

02:10:09.000 You know, the purpose of our separation and the purpose of our experience is to have free will, to have the choice to do good or bad or, you know, whatever, but to evolve as a soul where you evolve towards being loving.

02:10:30.000 Where was he getting this from?

02:10:31.000 From mediums.

02:10:33.000 From mediums.

02:10:34.000 So the spirit world was telling him this.

02:10:36.000 Yeah, and like crazy, like a lot of, like.

02:10:42.000 The problem with mediums is the same problem that you have with trans people using the bathroom. 1.00

02:10:47.000 Some are legit.

02:10:49.000 Sure.

02:10:50.000 And some of them are just not.

02:10:52.000 Right, right, right.

02:10:53.000 That's the issue with anybody saying that they know exactly why – what is the difference between the way animals think and behave and humans think and behave?

02:10:53.000 Of course.

02:11:03.000 Well, I think with animals, there's – they're in the wild.

02:11:09.000 They need survival.

02:11:10.000 Survival.

02:11:11.000 You know, where like where humans have kind of a higher level of like a higher bar to meet because we have like more, there's more moral implications to the way we conduct our lives.

02:11:22.000 Yeah.

02:11:23.000 Well, we've also figured out shelter, right?

02:11:26.000 So we're a little bit set.

02:11:27.000 We have doors.

02:11:28.000 And so we're separated from the wild world, which has allowed us to have a lot more time to innovate and think.

02:11:36.000 It might be correct.

02:11:38.000 I think that it's just interesting. 0.97

02:11:41.000 The problem is people, they buy in to things as being like absolute truth, and especially things that are exciting, like spiritual mediums and spirits and channeling and all that shit.

02:11:56.000 I think that with the near-death experience, all these thousands of people have had the accounts. 0.55

02:12:02.000 There's a society of near-death experiencers, like, you know, official, like, whatever, you know.

02:12:08.000 I wonder if any of the frauds slip in there with a fake story of almost dying.

02:12:12.000 I don't bet they do.

02:12:13.000 I don't doubt it.

02:12:14.000 But the consistency across all of these accounts, it's like, it kind of like lends legitimacy to me.

02:12:22.000 Well, that's the case with the alien abduction experience as well.

02:12:26.000 That's another weird one.

02:12:27.000 It's like I want to dismiss it out. 1.00

02:12:30.000 I haven't had it, so I'm like, fuck these people. 1.00

02:12:32.000 It's not real. 1.00

02:12:33.000 But man, it gets weird.

02:12:35.000 It gets real, especially when you go, you read like Jacques Valley's work and you realize this stuff has been going on in the 1700s, 1800s.

02:12:43.000 They just had a different way of talking about it because they didn't have the idea that a physical craft could fly in the sky that's made out of metal.

02:12:52.000 To them, that was alien.

02:12:54.000 Didn't make, I mean, for lack of a better word.

02:12:54.000 Right.

02:12:56.000 But so they didn't describe it that way.

02:12:58.000 But they did describe meeting these creatures and being taken away and wakened. 0.59

02:13:03.000 Sucked up in a light.

02:13:04.000 Yeah, things like that.

02:13:05.000 It's like, there's so many of those stories.

02:13:08.000 And then the actual stories of people that have been supposedly abducted, that have these stories of these encounters.

02:13:16.000 They're oddly similar, regardless of where they live in the world, which is real weird.

02:13:21.000 Right.

02:13:21.000 And it's one of those things.

02:13:22.000 It's like, if it hasn't happened to you, you really wouldn't be able to describe it.

02:13:27.000 Sure.

02:13:28.000 And you wouldn't believe it.

02:13:29.000 And if it did happen to you, you'd be like, how am I even going to tell anybody about this?

02:13:32.000 Because no one else has this experience.

02:13:32.000 Right.

02:13:34.000 So this is going to be a crazy thing that I'm going to talk about.

02:13:37.000 Everyone's going to think I'm a kook.

02:13:39.000 That's been a lot of people's experience, I think, up until recently.

02:13:42.000 So now, like, with the way that people describe the life review, you know, and they describe like things where they said something nasty and whatever.

02:13:55.000 They did something like, you know, hurtful.

02:13:57.000 And in their life review, they are the person.

02:14:00.000 They feel that sorrow.

02:14:02.000 And they come back with such maybe remorse, maybe like more heightened compassion, like less interest in material things. 0.94

02:14:13.000 And I just think to myself, oh my God, like in my life, like when I was such a fucking nightmare with drugs and sex and all the fucking crazy, you know, just like I did a lot of, I created a lot of wreckage. 0.93

02:14:29.000 You know, I think I was harmful and hurtful. 0.96

02:14:31.000 I've been better, but even like coming up, I'm almost 18 years clean and sober.

02:14:37.000 Even in those 18 years, I've, you know, I've had a bad temper.

02:14:41.000 I've like, you know, whatever.

02:14:42.000 Like, you know, overly.

02:14:44.000 You're a human being, man.

02:14:45.000 Right.

02:14:46.000 The trajectory of my life, I believe, has been much, like, it's upward improvement, which, which I'm really grateful for.

02:14:55.000 But when I hear about these accounts, when people describing the life review, I think, oh my God, I got a.

02:15:01.000 You're worried about a comment section in heaven.

02:15:03.000 That's literally what you're sitting here tweaking out about.

02:15:06.000 A little bit.

02:15:07.000 Like a little bit.

02:15:08.000 Like, you know, I view the remainder of my life as an opportunity, like a big, gigantic opportunity to stack the good and, you know, like bid and just be more.

02:15:21.000 Look, anything that gives you motivation to be a good person.

02:15:24.000 Yeah.

02:15:24.000 That's great.

02:15:25.000 If that's how you have to do it.

02:15:26.000 Yeah, I'll keep like a big fucking wad of cash in my pocket so I can just give 20 bucks to every Uber driver, every homeless person, like, you know, and I think like, yeah, maybe that's just selfishly I want to have a better life review.

02:15:44.000 Well, if selfishly wanting to have a better life review makes you be a nicer person, then it's worth it. 0.92

02:15:49.000 100%.

02:15:50.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:15:50.000 And I care about that so much.

02:15:53.000 Yeah.

02:15:53.000 Okay.

02:15:54.000 So you're in your own head a lot, huh? 0.90

02:15:55.000 Yeah, it's a pretty narcissist.

02:15:57.000 Do you have anything else you do that like wears you out?

02:15:59.000 Do you do anything physical?

02:16:00.000 Do you do like hard workouts that like drain you of anxiety?

02:16:04.000 I do, you know, I do yoga every day for 30 minutes.

02:16:10.000 And I got the perfect push-ups.

02:16:13.000 You ever do those? 0.94

02:16:14.000 I just got this killer strength machine at my house in Tennessee that I haven't been to in fucking two months. 0.87

02:16:14.000 Sure. 0.87

02:16:22.000 Yeah, for a lot of people, that's a relief from anxiety, is like hard workouts.

02:16:27.000 Because, look, there's benefits to having regret because you course correct and you become.

02:16:27.000 Yeah.

02:16:34.000 But after a while, you can't be thinking about it all the fucking time because then what you're doing, you're addicted to self-analysis. 0.99

02:16:41.000 Right. 0.99

02:16:41.000 And there's a lot of people out there addicted to self-analysis. 0.99

02:16:44.000 There's a lot of people that love going to therapy so they can talk about themselves and talk about their feelings.

02:16:52.000 And some of that is really good for you.

02:16:54.000 And some of that is very beneficial because you could develop tools that could help you manage your life.

02:16:58.000 But there's also people that are just narcissists and just like going to a place where it's all about them for an hour.

02:17:06.000 And this is a problem with self-analysis and living in your own head.

02:17:12.000 You got to get outside of your head.

02:17:14.000 This is the benefit of psychedelics.

02:17:16.000 They get you outside your head.

02:17:18.000 And living in that whole, what does everybody think about me?

02:17:22.000 Let me check.

02:17:23.000 Oh, what do I do?

02:17:24.000 Oh, my bad guy.

02:17:26.000 Right.

02:17:26.000 Not good for you, man.

02:17:28.000 And not, it's, it's not just, it's not productive.

02:17:31.000 Like, it doesn't allow you to do the things that you want to do in life efficiently and effectively.

02:17:36.000 Yeah.

02:17:37.000 What is it saying to you?

02:17:37.000 Whoa.

02:17:38.000 Serious listening then?

02:17:40.000 Why do you have that thing? 1.00

02:17:41.000 Get rid of those fucking watches. 1.00

02:17:42.000 Those are ridiculous. 1.00

02:17:43.000 Watch to tell you the fucking time. 1.00

02:17:45.000 That's it. 0.99

02:17:46.000 Should be reading emails too.

02:17:47.000 You have a phone.

02:17:48.000 Stop. 1.00

02:17:49.000 Stop with all this shit that you carry around with you. 1.00

02:17:51.000 It's all. 1.00

02:17:53.000 I feel like you're seeing right through me, Joe.

02:17:55.000 Like, I do. 0.99

02:17:57.000 My head is very fucking mean to me. 0.98

02:18:00.000 Well, it also could be the kind of people you surround yourself with. 0.99

02:18:04.000 You know, if you're around other people that think more along the lines of, look, you got to have radical self-forgiveness for your past.

02:18:13.000 You're not a loser from, you're not the guy who got stuffed into a locker in high school.

02:18:13.000 You got to let it go.

02:18:17.000 Okay, you got to let that go.

02:18:18.000 And it's hard for people.

02:18:19.000 There's people that were so bullied in high school that they will go to high school as a fucking grown man with children and they will get anxiety and panic in that same high school because they still associate themselves with who they were back then.

02:18:33.000 And, you know, at a certain point in time, you have to, you have to move on. 0.94

02:18:37.000 You know, you have to let it go.

02:18:39.000 Yeah.

02:18:39.000 And, you know, it's good to recognize your flaws and want to improve upon them up to a point.

02:18:47.000 And then you got to concentrate on what you're doing and what you enjoy doing and just doing a good job at everything that you do.

02:18:54.000 And one of the things that prevents you from doing a good job at everything you do is constantly being in your own head.

02:18:59.000 Right.

02:18:59.000 It can get in the way.

02:19:01.000 Yeah.

02:19:02.000 You know, I got this.

02:19:04.000 I moved out to Tennessee.

02:19:06.000 I got this big property.

02:19:07.000 Yeah, Nashville?

02:19:08.000 45 minutes north of Nashville.

02:19:11.000 Okay, so you're out in the woods.

02:19:12.000 I'm out in the woods.

02:19:13.000 Yeah, all of the, you know, fancy, like.

02:19:15.000 Do you ever hear a yeehaw in the middle of the night and get worried?

02:19:18.000 Hear shotguns in the distance?

02:19:20.000 No, but I've got some great neighbors, man.

02:19:25.000 My neighbors are so awesome.

02:19:27.000 I got the place in September 2023.

02:19:30.000 So I've been out.

02:19:31.000 How did you choose that area?

02:19:34.000 You know what it was?

02:19:35.000 Like I got the I started hearing about people getting notifications from their insurance companies in LA that their homeowner's policy wouldn't be renewed because of the risk of fires.

02:19:51.000 And I was like, dude, I live in the Hollywood Hills. 0.96

02:19:53.000 It's just a fucking exercise and waiting for my house to burn down. 1.00

02:19:57.000 Like I've got this fucking house is uninsurable. 0.99

02:20:00.000 And like, I was like, man, I don't want to be waiting for my house to burn down. 0.99

02:20:05.000 And I wanted to have a bunch of land so I can open up an animal sanctuary.

02:20:09.000 You know, that's my deal.

02:20:09.000 Oh, that's cool.

02:20:11.000 So I knew that I wanted to get a place outside of California.

02:20:11.000 Yeah.

02:20:17.000 And who was, it was, it was supposed to be Corey San Hagen against Islam in Nashville, Tennessee. 0.99

02:20:25.000 And I was like, oh my fucking. 0.99

02:20:27.000 They're in different weight classes. 1.00

02:20:29.000 Oh, okay.

02:20:30.000 No, no, no, no.

02:20:30.000 Okay, yeah, not Islam.

02:20:32.000 Umar? 0.99

02:20:33.000 Umar Namurgo.

02:20:34.000 Yeah, Umar.

02:20:34.000 Umar.

02:20:35.000 Yeah, yeah, thank you.

02:20:38.000 Yeah, good, good catch.

02:20:39.000 It was supposed to be Umar.

02:20:41.000 Like, I was like, oh, my God, I gotta be there. 0.97

02:20:43.000 It's fucking so exciting. 0.62

02:20:44.000 And it ended up being Corey Sandhagen against Rob Font because Umar backed out somehow or other. 0.99

02:20:50.000 Probably got injured.

02:20:51.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98

02:20:53.000 I'm like, all right, we're fucking going out to. 0.76

02:20:56.000 So I decided that I'm going to go look at properties in Tennessee just for a weekend. 0.96

02:21:03.000 And the only motivation was to go for the fights.

02:21:07.000 Oh. 0.51

02:21:08.000 I fucking love the UFC, man. 0.79

02:21:09.000 Oh, that's awesome. 0.95

02:21:10.000 I love the UFC.

02:21:11.000 So I went out there.

02:21:13.000 Yeah, right.

02:21:13.000 The BMF.

02:21:14.000 Yeah, that should be exciting.

02:21:16.000 Max Holloway and Charles Holbert.

02:21:18.000 Charles Holibera.

02:21:19.000 That is a great fighter. 1.00

02:21:21.000 And do the whole fucking card. 0.99

02:21:23.000 And all the way down the prelims. 1.00

02:21:25.000 Like, get the fuck out of here. 0.95

02:21:27.000 Some of the names on the prelims. 0.93

02:21:29.000 Yeah, so I looked at properties.

02:21:31.000 We went down like an all-around. 0.51

02:21:33.000 And when I got to this one, 44-acres house with the fucking additional dwelling unit, like apartment on the garage, like, and this trail that goes through the woods in a perfect one-mile loop. 0.88

02:21:47.000 They drove us around that trail. 0.97

02:21:48.000 I was like, I got it.

02:21:49.000 Oh, that's awesome.

02:21:50.000 I'm like, this place, like, they can get me for whatever, because I have to have it.

02:21:55.000 You know, like, they're just going to.

02:21:58.000 Well, it's good for a guy like you.

02:21:59.000 Like, that's probably a great thing to have, too, is just get some peace.

02:22:03.000 When I got out there, I was like, oh, my God, I'm not chewing on my lip.

02:22:07.000 I'm not like I can, I can breathe. 0.90

02:22:10.000 Now, the problem is that I'm not there very much because I'm always fucking touring and working and chasing and listening. 0.68

02:22:16.000 That's the touring and working is a gift. 0.84

02:22:18.000 You know, you have the ability to do that.

02:22:20.000 It's way better than wishing you could be touring and working.

02:22:23.000 Right.

02:22:24.000 I mean, that's how it was when I started doing comedy.

02:22:29.000 See, I got sober in 2008, right?

02:22:32.000 Up to that point, I was 33. 0.97

02:22:35.000 And up to that point, I never thought I was going to fucking make it to 30. 0.98

02:22:40.000 You know, like, I was just like, you're chaos. 0.92

02:22:42.000 Yeah, I was like, literally, just never even imagined.

02:22:45.000 Like, I wasn't worried about saving money.

02:22:47.000 I wasn't worried about, like, it was just like, ah, I'm going to be dead.

02:22:50.000 Right.

02:22:50.000 And then all of a sudden, I got clean and sober.

02:22:53.000 And it's like, wow, now I'm ceasing to like actively kill myself.

02:23:01.000 I'm starting to take care of myself.

02:23:03.000 Maybe I'm going to be alive for decades to come.

02:23:05.000 Right. 0.98

02:23:06.000 And like, holy shit, like 2008, like whatever I had saved at that time was just, you know, like, and I'm like, how am I going to fucking eat? 0.94

02:23:17.000 If I'm going to be, if I'm only like less than halfway through my life, I've burned every bridge in my career. 0.95

02:23:22.000 And, you know, they're telling me that if I want to like be, you know, clean and sober and have any kind of a good life, I've got to deflate my ego.

02:23:31.000 I've got to practice spiritual principles. 0.97

02:23:33.000 How the fuck am I supposed to be Steve O with a deflated ego and on a spiritual path? 0.98

02:23:40.000 I didn't know if I could continue to have any kind of a career as I knew it. 0.98

02:23:45.000 So now I'm like, how am I going to eat?

02:23:47.000 You know, like my savings just got blasted.

02:23:49.000 And I started doing comedy, going to the Laugh Factory, like they'd give you like 20 bucks.

02:23:56.000 Sign here and they'd be like 20 bucks.

02:23:59.000 And then when the Jack S3D came out, I went on the Howard Stern show and I'm like, Toward, I've been in the comedy club every night.

02:24:06.000 I'm having a blast.

02:24:07.000 And just by saying that on Howard Stern, my lawyer called me up like in the next week or something.

02:24:13.000 He says, I've got comedy clubs all over the country calling, trying to book you.

02:24:18.000 Like, what's this about?

02:24:19.000 And they're offering like all this money.

02:24:21.000 I'm like, wait, you can make what? 0.99

02:24:23.000 You can make that much money like going to a fucking comedy club for a weekend? 1.00

02:24:27.000 Like, holy shit. 1.00

02:24:28.000 I'm like, I got to fucking figure out how I'm going to eat for the next, you know, 50 years maybe. 1.00

02:24:34.000 So I just fucking started grinding. 0.99

02:24:37.000 Yeah, we've talked about this. 0.99

02:24:38.000 Yeah.

02:24:38.000 It's, you know, I think that anybody who wants to do comedy should do comedy.

02:24:42.000 And there's a weird thing that happens with comedy where it's like, there's a lot of gatekeepers.

02:24:47.000 Like, oh, what is he doing doing comedy?

02:24:49.000 Which I think is gross.

02:24:49.000 Right.

02:24:51.000 But, yeah, I mean, I'm glad you found something out.

02:24:54.000 But it's just being yourself.

02:24:55.000 You know, you could still be on a spiritual path and stuff like that.

02:24:59.000 Oh, 100%.

02:25:00.000 I figured that out.

02:25:01.000 I figured that out completely.

02:25:03.000 And I think that the point being that I had like that in 2011, like, Jesus, man, like, I had to have been, you know, 52 weeks of the year. 0.89

02:25:15.000 Like, no way that I wasn't like full-on fucking engagement for like 45 weeks of that year. 0.91

02:25:22.000 You know, that's awesome. 0.98

02:25:23.000 Yeah.

02:25:24.000 And just by doing it that much, like the repetition, it's like, oh, okay, now like I'm developing a craft.

02:25:30.000 Yeah, if you care about it.

02:25:32.000 If you care about it and you get into it, you're getting better at it.

02:25:34.000 Dude, I care about it.

02:25:35.000 It's harder for a guy like you that's already famous to start out because, you know, some people, they're already famous.

02:25:41.000 Like I went on the road with Charlie Murphy when he was doing that.

02:25:44.000 And it was like the ballsiest thing ever.

02:25:47.000 Like Charlie was famous for being on the Chappelle show and then starting out doing comedy.

02:25:52.000 When I went on the road with him, I think he had only been doing comedy like two years at the time.

02:25:56.000 I'm like, man, this is such a ballsy thing to do because there's so many expectations of you.

02:26:03.000 A, you're Eddie Murphy's brother, which is nuts.

02:26:06.000 So you're a brother, one of the greatest of all time.

02:26:08.000 And then on top of that, you're already famous from one of the funniest comedy shows of all time.

02:26:13.000 And you're a beginner.

02:26:14.000 Yeah.

02:26:15.000 Which is wild.

02:26:16.000 You know?

02:26:17.000 Yeah.

02:26:18.000 It's a blessing and a curse because you can sell tickets because people know you.

02:26:21.000 They want to see you.

02:26:24.000 A lot of guys, they get together with other people that can help them formulate an act, maybe help them write, help them piece together.

02:26:31.000 Maybe if they're not even writing for you, at least they can help you consolidate your thoughts and put together some, like if you're smart, that's the way to do it.

02:26:39.000 Like hire some people that can help you.

02:26:41.000 I've never been able to have people write for me.

02:26:44.000 It's not necessary.

02:26:45.000 You don't have to, but it's a good idea for like, you're a little bit different than a traditional stand-up comic, though.

02:26:51.000 You have stand-up comedy, but you also do multimedia stuff and stunts and silly things.

02:26:56.000 For people that just, like Charlie was just doing comedy.

02:27:00.000 Right.

02:27:01.000 I started out doing that.

02:27:03.000 I would do like a set of stand-up, and then I would have like a set of sort of repeatable stunts and tricks at the end.

02:27:09.000 Right.

02:27:10.000 So this is not like Laugh Factory when you're one of the people on the line.

02:27:13.000 Right, right, right.

02:27:14.000 This is when you're doing your own shows.

02:27:15.000 Yeah, that's how the tour began.

02:27:15.000 Yeah.

02:27:17.000 Oh, that's awesome, man.

02:27:18.000 But yeah, dude, I'm just fucking stoked.

02:27:21.000 You're in a good place. 0.97

02:27:22.000 You just got to get out of your own head.

02:27:23.000 Yeah, my head terrorizes me a little bit.

02:27:25.000 Yeah.

02:27:25.000 You got to get out of your own head and probably surround yourself more with people that also are not in their own head.

02:27:31.000 Right. 1.00

02:27:31.000 You know, because that shit's contagious. 1.00

02:27:33.000 Just like being a loser is contagious. 1.00

02:27:35.000 Like if you're around people that are losers, like that shit can rub off on you. 1.00

02:27:39.000 If you're on people that sabotage their life all the time, you're with them, like, then you're wrapped up in their shit. 1.00

02:27:45.000 And not only are you not progressing, you're regressing because you're constantly with this guy who's like fucking his life up all the time. 0.99

02:27:53.000 Some people have to cut ties. 0.97

02:27:55.000 Just try to surround yourself with people from your yoga class.

02:28:00.000 Go to a solid yoga class and find solid people.

02:28:06.000 Be the type of person that solid people want to be around, but also find those people too.

02:28:12.000 Right.

02:28:13.000 And both of those things will benefit you.

02:28:15.000 Because if you're in your own head and you're around other people that are worried about their career too, and they're in their own head and they're freaking out about their comments and you're freaking out about your comments, like, geez.

02:28:25.000 Right.

02:28:25.000 Stop.

02:28:26.000 This is not good for anybody.

02:28:28.000 Yeah.

02:28:29.000 Yeah.

02:28:30.000 And it's helpful too to look at the facts.

02:28:34.000 You know, like whatever I've been through, whatever.

02:28:38.000 But even that is thinking about yourself too much.

02:28:40.000 Think about your stuff.

02:28:41.000 Think about what you're doing.

02:28:43.000 Don't think about like, I've accomplished so much and this is why I don't have to worry.

02:28:47.000 Like, eh.

02:28:49.000 You don't get any.

02:28:49.000 There's no gas in that.

02:28:51.000 I don't know that that's what I meant, but like what I've been going through over the last few weeks I was telling you about didn't change the fact that like our jackass movies and fucking full bore, full force. 0.98

02:29:02.000 There you go. 1.00

02:29:03.000 It doesn't change the fact you have a dick on your forehead. 1.00

02:29:05.000 It doesn't change that. 0.99

02:29:07.000 Yeah, like nobody has nobody who matters to me has voiced any concern about any of that.

02:29:15.000 That's all that matters then.

02:29:16.000 It's the people that are close to you that really matter.

02:29:18.000 It's just like, you're just a little too in your own head, bro.

02:29:21.000 I hope this helped. 0.97

02:29:22.000 You know, I really fucking did. 0.83

02:29:26.000 You're a good dude, Ben. 0.97

02:29:27.000 You shouldn't be worried.

02:29:28.000 I care.

02:29:29.000 I know you do, but the reason why you care is because you're a good dude.

02:29:35.000 But your brain can hijack you.

02:29:38.000 You know, your thoughts can run away with you.

02:29:42.000 I mean, we've all had it happen before.

02:29:44.000 You get a thought, it runs away with you, and then you got to bring it back.

02:29:44.000 Right.

02:29:47.000 But you got to get better at corralling that bitch. 1.00

02:29:49.000 You know, it's like being a dog trainer. 1.00

02:29:51.000 You can't have your dog shitting all over your house and chewing up your furniture.

02:29:54.000 You're going to, hey, hey, stop. 0.96

02:29:57.000 Doesn't mean you don't love your dog. 0.99

02:29:59.000 It's like you don't want him shitting on your couch. 0.99

02:30:01.000 Tell him not to do that. 0.97

02:30:03.000 Be a good dog trainer.

02:30:04.000 Be a good Steve-O trainer.

02:30:06.000 Like, don't let Steve-O's brain run away from him and piss on the TV.

02:30:10.000 That's crazy.

02:30:12.000 You know what I mean?

02:30:13.000 Same kind of thing.

02:30:14.000 You got to train yourself.

02:30:16.000 Yeah.

02:30:17.000 I think that that's perfectly fair, man.

02:30:19.000 And I'm super grateful for you, brother.

02:30:21.000 I'm grateful for you, too.

02:30:23.000 Like I said, I just hate seeing you in your own head because you're a great guy.

02:30:26.000 You're fun to be around.

02:30:27.000 You're always very thoughtful and very friendly.

02:30:29.000 And don't worry about it, man.

02:30:31.000 It's going to be all right. 1.00

02:30:32.000 And then you're going to come back as a butterfly or some shit. 0.98

02:30:32.000 Well, thank you, dude. 0.98

02:30:37.000 Right.

02:30:37.000 Maybe you'll come back as a World War II pilot.

02:30:39.000 Maybe you go back in time.

02:30:40.000 That would be wild.

02:30:42.000 You have memories of the future.

02:30:43.000 I haven't heard about that.

02:30:45.000 Yeah, it's because if reincarnation, if time's not linear, if time exists all at once, like maybe reincarnation is not linear either.

02:30:54.000 Maybe there's people that die and then they have messages from the future.

02:30:58.000 You know?

02:30:59.000 I mean, that's true.

02:31:00.000 Imagine you're in the trenches of World War I. You're like, are you fucking kidding me? 0.97

02:31:03.000 I used to have an iPhone. 0.99

02:31:04.000 I had a watch that was, my dad was calling me on it.

02:31:07.000 Right. 1.00

02:31:08.000 This is so stupid. 1.00

02:31:09.000 Now I'm worried about getting eaten by wolves in this fucking trench. 1.00

02:31:12.000 I mean, the idea of quantum physics, quantum mechanics. 0.99

02:31:12.000 Right. 0.99

02:31:17.000 Entanglement.

02:31:19.000 All possible realities all exist all in one moment.

02:31:25.000 Allegedly.

02:31:27.000 I don't understand it.

02:31:28.000 I've tried.

02:31:29.000 Right.

02:31:30.000 How's Marshall?

02:31:31.000 He's great.

02:31:32.000 How old is Marshall now?

02:31:33.000 He's nine.

02:31:34.000 Wow.

02:31:35.000 Yeah.

02:31:35.000 It makes me sad that I worry that he's only going to live for a few more years.

02:31:39.000 That's what's spooky.

02:31:39.000 Right.

02:31:40.000 Goldens, when they eat well and they're well fed, they could live like 15, 16 years.

02:31:45.000 I just got to take care of them.

02:31:48.000 It's just like thinking about him not being around.

02:31:51.000 It's like, it's really hard.

02:31:53.000 We were playing today.

02:31:54.000 I take him in the yard, throw the ball with him, and we're hanging out and cuddling.

02:31:57.000 And I just can't imagine a life where that dog's not around.

02:32:02.000 He's just a big love sponge.

02:32:05.000 He loves everybody.

02:32:06.000 Everybody comes over to the house.

02:32:07.000 The first thing he does, he runs up to you, he wags his tail, he rubs up against you, and then he lies down because he knows you want to pet his belly.

02:32:14.000 He's like, come on, you know you want to pet me.

02:32:18.000 He's just so used to being touched by everybody.

02:32:21.000 Like that's his existence is just love.

02:32:23.000 I was in Peru in 2017 with Chuck Liddell.

02:32:29.000 We were doing this.

02:32:30.000 So you found that dog.

02:32:31.000 Yeah.

02:32:33.000 That I still have Wendy.

02:32:35.000 That's awesome.

02:32:36.000 That's awesome.

02:32:37.000 She's at this point like 11.

02:32:40.000 Wow.

02:32:41.000 And she's like, dogs, it's so sad.

02:32:44.000 Yeah, they don't live long enough.

02:32:46.000 I know, you know, but dude, since Wendy's now retired living on my ranch in Tennessee, that's cool.

02:32:53.000 And she has become the gnarliest country girl. 0.99

02:32:57.000 Like, she'll just go out on the property and come back with like a fucking gnarly deer leg. 1.00

02:33:04.000 Did she found the way she was? 0.99

02:33:05.000 She just sits and she just sits there.

02:33:07.000 That's normal.

02:33:08.000 That's dog behavior.

02:33:09.000 And I've got this ranch cat that I'm pretty sure, like, he goes out there and like hunts squirrels or whatever.

02:33:16.000 He probably kills everything.

02:33:17.000 Probably kills all the birds. 0.97

02:33:18.000 And then he brings them to Wendy. 0.99

02:33:20.000 Because I was trying to figure out why is Wendy getting so fucking fat? 1.00

02:33:23.000 I'm like, tell my ranch hand, I'm like, dude, we got to like not feed Wendy so much. 0.99

02:33:27.000 She's like kind of fucking getting fat. 1.00

02:33:29.000 So he's like, dude, I've been like feeding her less, but she just seems to still be getting fucking fat. 0.99

02:33:34.000 And we find her, like, she cruises up with like just some big ass rodent. 1.00

02:33:40.000 And then she's going to kiss you with hold breaths. 1.00

02:33:44.000 Just crunching it. 1.00

02:33:45.000 I watch her house a whole fucking squirrel to the face and just swallow the whole fucking thing. 1.00

02:33:53.000 And I know that she's, her old fat ass wasn't fast enough to catch a squirrel. 1.00

02:33:58.000 The only way is it's got to be the cats killing it and giving it away. 1.00

02:34:01.000 The cat killed a squirrel and it's like, hey, friend, I got something for you because cats just want to kill.

02:34:06.000 Yeah.

02:34:06.000 They kill so much, man.

02:34:08.000 Wild cat.

02:34:09.000 If you let a cat go wild, you basically, you want to do harm, let a cat go loose.

02:34:13.000 That'll kill thousands and thousands of things.

02:34:16.000 I saw a cat the other day on a ranch.

02:34:18.000 It was really wild.

02:34:20.000 I turned a corner and I saw it right as this cat pounced.

02:34:25.000 So this cat was in the grass and it was doing that thing where their back goes up and their butt starts wiggling and just flew through the air and landed. 0.99

02:34:33.000 I'm like, how happy is this fucking cat living out here? 0.99

02:34:36.000 Like just being able to jack all these poor little unsuspecting animals all day long. 1.00

02:34:41.000 That's what they want to do, man. 1.00

02:34:43.000 The guy bought the property from, he said, you will never see a fucking mouse, a fucking rat. 1.00

02:34:49.000 He's like, this cat, we inherited the cat right now. 1.00

02:34:51.000 Oh, that's cool. 0.99

02:34:52.000 He's like, this cat takes his job fucking seriously. 0.98

02:34:55.000 It's way better than having mice around, that's for sure. 1.00

02:34:58.000 But they are mass murderers. 0.95

02:35:00.000 Yeah.

02:35:01.000 Do you know that like house cats, wild house cats, feral cats kill billions of mammals every year just in America?

02:35:09.000 Billions.

02:35:10.000 Feral house cats.

02:35:11.000 Wild cats.

02:35:12.000 Right, right, right, right.

02:35:13.000 Cats that get left outside.

02:35:15.000 Regular old cats.

02:35:16.000 Regular cats, not like cougars.

02:35:17.000 And they kill billions of birds and mammals.

02:35:21.000 B.I. Billions.

02:35:23.000 Billions.

02:35:24.000 Yeah.

02:35:24.000 They are so good at it.

02:35:25.000 They love to do it.

02:35:27.000 I used to have this fluffy.

02:35:29.000 She was like, I forget what they're called.

02:35:31.000 They're kind of catchy, but she was just a ball fluff. 1.00

02:35:34.000 Like, she would just purr when you pet her. 1.00

02:35:36.000 And like, that little bitch was a murderer. 1.00

02:35:39.000 She'd have a bird. 1.00

02:35:39.000 They let her outside. 1.00

02:35:40.000 I'm like, this is crazy.

02:35:41.000 She'd jump up and snag a bird out of the air. 1.00

02:35:43.000 I'm like, she would sit by the window and she'd see a squirrel outside and her teeth would start chattering.

02:35:53.000 Like, she just couldn't wait to bite it.

02:35:56.000 They make these weird noises, staring at birds and squirrels.

02:36:00.000 Like, it's just in them, man.

02:36:01.000 Yeah.

02:36:02.000 They're little killing machines.

02:36:04.000 Yep. 1.00

02:36:05.000 I got, I'm going to have so many fucking animals. 1.00

02:36:10.000 That's the planet's pigs and goats and cats and dogs. 1.00

02:36:10.000 That's awesome. 1.00

02:36:13.000 That's dope, dude.

02:36:14.000 That sounds like a great life.

02:36:16.000 And a great balance to the chaos that you had when you were younger.

02:36:19.000 And also a great balance to touring, right?

02:36:21.000 Right.

02:36:22.000 Touring in all these cities.

02:36:23.000 You come back home.

02:36:24.000 Tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet.

02:36:26.000 Oh, dude, I love it so much, man.

02:36:28.000 And it's all set up.

02:36:31.000 It's an official 501c3 non-profit animal sanctuary.

02:36:35.000 Oh, so you can take in animals.

02:36:37.000 Like if someone has a dog that's been abandoned or a goat that they can't take care of.

02:36:41.000 Oh, that's cool.

02:36:42.000 Yep.

02:36:43.000 That sounds really cool, man.

02:36:44.000 It's called the Radical Ranch.

02:36:47.000 Yeah.

02:36:48.000 And the website's radicalranch.org.

02:36:51.000 Oh, you have a website.

02:36:52.000 Just went live like last month.

02:36:54.000 Oh, cool.

02:36:55.000 Like in January, it went live. 0.95

02:36:59.000 So, yeah, like people can fucking donate or whatever, see all the animals on there. 0.99

02:37:04.000 That's dope, brother. 0.98

02:37:04.000 It's pretty rad. 0.98

02:37:06.000 There it is.

02:37:07.000 There it is.

02:37:08.000 Radical Ranch.

02:37:08.000 There's Wendy.

02:37:09.000 Oh, look at all those little animals. 0.99

02:37:11.000 Having a good time.

02:37:12.000 Believe it or not, that's Photoshop.

02:37:15.000 Is it?

02:37:15.000 You're not getting all those animals in one.

02:37:17.000 That's Photoshop?

02:37:19.000 Yeah.

02:37:19.000 Oh, okay.

02:37:20.000 That's deceptive.

02:37:21.000 How dare you?

02:37:22.000 Well, I mean, I'm not sure.

02:37:22.000 I thought you're having a party, just like a Disney movie.

02:37:25.000 I wanted to have all the animals in one shot.

02:37:27.000 And that actually makes sense.

02:37:30.000 Otherwise, I was like, why didn't that dog chase those goats?

02:37:33.000 Why is the goat dealing with the dog doing right there?

02:37:35.000 Right.

02:37:35.000 All right, brother.

02:37:36.000 Well, I appreciate you very much.

02:37:39.000 It's always good to talk to you.

02:37:39.000 Dude, likewise.

02:37:41.000 Yeah.

02:37:42.000 I try to be pretty sparing if I'm going to hit you up.

02:37:45.000 I try to make sure that it.

02:37:48.000 Don't worry about it, man.

02:37:50.000 Just be you.

02:37:50.000 Don't worry about it.

02:37:51.000 Yeah.

02:37:51.000 Well, dude.

02:37:52.000 It's all going to be fine.

02:37:53.000 I appreciate you so much.

02:37:54.000 I appreciate you too, brother. 0.91

02:37:55.000 This is fucking important for me. 0.97

02:37:58.000 My pleasure. 0.99

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 04, 2026

Joe Rogan Experience #2463 - Steve-O

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