The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2491 - Brian Simpson

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00:00:09.000 Do you gotta get new glasses?

00:00:14.000 No, I just have a different pair for different stuff.

00:00:17.000 Did they get stronger?

00:00:18.000 No.

00:00:19.000 No?

00:00:19.000 I just have a.

00:00:21.000 Did you always have glasses?

00:00:22.000 Like, do you have an eyeball issue?

00:00:23.000 Yeah, I got astigmatism.

00:00:25.000 Okay.

00:00:26.000 But I got one for driving and one for my computer.

00:00:29.000 I used to have to use reading glasses.

00:00:33.000 Then I started using red light therapy.

00:00:36.000 And I think that the first thing I started doing is taking this company, Pure Encapsulation, has this it's called macular support.

00:00:47.000 It's like a combination of nutrients that help your eyeballs.

00:00:51.000 I don't know how.

00:00:52.000 But I explained it to Huberman, he read it off to me, and he's like, this makes sense.

00:00:56.000 But then the big one was red light.

00:00:59.000 I started using red light therapy.

00:01:01.000 I don't need glasses anymore.

00:01:02.000 What?

00:01:03.000 Yeah, my eyes aren't perfect.

00:01:04.000 Like in low light, they're not so good.

00:01:07.000 Like in a dark restaurant, I have to use the flashlight on my thing to read a menu, but I don't need glasses anymore.

00:01:13.000 So I've been wondering that is it that I'm getting older or are they just using darker light in the restaurants?

00:01:18.000 They definitely use dark light in restaurants.

00:01:20.000 I mean, young people can still read it.

00:01:22.000 Like I've gone to restaurants with my kids and they can read in the dark.

00:01:25.000 I'm like, you can read that?

00:01:27.000 I can't read it.

00:01:30.000 But like small print, like on my phone, like reading an email, I didn't used to be able to read it.

00:01:35.000 And now I can read it perfectly.

00:01:36.000 Oh, see, now I'm hitting that age now where I got to start switching.

00:01:41.000 Switching glasses.

00:01:42.000 Yeah.

00:01:43.000 Here we go.

00:01:44.000 Here we go.

00:01:45.000 Listen, dude, I'm just happy you're alive.

00:01:48.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:01:49.000 I mean, you know, man, I've always.

00:01:53.000 People don't know what we're talking about.

00:01:54.000 You had a heart attack.

00:01:54.000 Yes, I had a heart attack three months ago.

00:01:57.000 Yeah.

00:01:57.000 Super Bowl weekend.

00:01:59.000 Yeah.

00:01:59.000 In Atlanta.

00:02:01.000 Yeah.

00:02:02.000 Out of nowhere.

00:02:03.000 Well, was it really out of nowhere?

00:02:05.000 Not really.

00:02:11.000 You know, like, because that's a whole.

00:02:13.000 Sound like you were a marathon runner.

00:02:14.000 Right, right, exactly.

00:02:16.000 But I was sitting there, you know, honestly, I was sitting there thinking, because I remember the doctor, because, you know, we really are, like, we've set ourselves up, we kind of deal with trauma in a not.

00:02:29.000 I mean, you can argue about whether it's healthy or not, but our first go to is humor.

00:02:35.000 Right.

00:02:36.000 And I remember the doctor getting upset with me.

00:02:38.000 Like the surgeon, the lady that was about to put a stent.

00:02:42.000 So, you know, I'm sitting there, and she was like, hey, something very serious just happened to you.

00:02:48.000 You know?

00:02:48.000 Because I was just talking.

00:02:51.000 You know, I was, but it was just how I was just coping.

00:02:53.000 Right.

00:02:53.000 You know?

00:02:54.000 She was not happy about it.

00:02:57.000 Did you tell her that's how I deal with things?

00:02:59.000 No, I was already all drugged up and shit.

00:03:03.000 Because it was one of the things where I think, like, you can't, they can't put you out completely.

00:03:09.000 Like, it's not that kind of anesthesia.

00:03:10.000 Oh, okay.

00:03:11.000 But they, but, I think they need you to be conscious, kind of, in case something goes wrong.

00:03:15.000 Right.

00:03:15.000 But whatever the fuck they put me on, I don't remember any of it.

00:03:18.000 And you were joking around and she was upset.

00:03:20.000 Yeah.

00:03:21.000 What happened was when I got to the hospital, the doctor that first saw me was like, I forget his name, but he was like, hey, I'm Doug and don't worry about anything.

00:03:32.000 I'm going to be with you the whole time.

00:03:34.000 You know, and then maybe 20 minutes later, you know, they're wheeling me in, they're drugging me up.

00:03:39.000 And I'm like, hey, where the fuck is Doug?

00:03:43.000 You know, and they're like, who's Doug?

00:03:44.000 I was like, he promised me.

00:03:46.000 That he wasn't gonna leave.

00:03:48.000 Obviously, I was just joking.

00:03:49.000 I know he was just saying that so I would calm down or whatever.

00:03:54.000 I don't know why Doug thought he would be bringing me comfort.

00:03:58.000 But I fake made a big deal of the fact that I felt abandoned by Doug.

00:04:03.000 And she didn't think it was funny.

00:04:05.000 Oh.

00:04:05.000 But somebody did.

00:04:06.000 And that's all I needed was the laugh.

00:04:08.000 I'm like, it's you, bitch.

00:04:08.000 It's not me.

00:04:09.000 You're the problem.

00:04:10.000 You're too serious in here.

00:04:11.000 Well, why would she need you to be serious if you're getting a stead put in?

00:04:14.000 Wouldn't that make it work better?

00:04:15.000 I mean, to be fair, I think my whole life people have said as serious as a heart attack.

00:04:19.000 And I feel like if you dedicated your life to that, you probably a serious person.

00:04:24.000 I don't know any other heart surgeons, but I bet they all pretty uptight.

00:04:27.000 Yeah, they have to be.

00:04:28.000 It's life or death.

00:04:29.000 With every decision that they make, right?

00:04:31.000 I guess they got to get it in on time, right?

00:04:34.000 Like, if they're going to put a stent in you, if they're going to do something, like, if you're one of those people like you are, that if you didn't address this, you would have died, right?

00:04:43.000 So, that's one of those things that's time critical.

00:04:46.000 So, I guess with those people, like, hey, stop fucking around, like, in their mind, like, I got to save you, I got to figure out what has to be done within a certain amount of time and get you on the road to recovery because if I don't, you're dead.

00:04:58.000 You know what?

00:04:59.000 Something else I remember.

00:05:01.000 And this was just flash because I only remember these couple seconds.

00:05:04.000 Is she kept yelling at me because I kept moving my hands?

00:05:08.000 So basically, like, I'm laid down like this, and they want you to keep your hands right by your side.

00:05:15.000 And I just remember I kept coming to with her being like, hey, keep your hands.

00:05:19.000 She might have said, keep your fucking hands down.

00:05:20.000 I don't know, though.

00:05:21.000 I don't know.

00:05:22.000 I ain't gonna make no accusations.

00:05:24.000 But she was clearly upset about it.

00:05:28.000 But I'm like, bitch, I'm on with the drugs you gave me, I'm not doing it on purpose.

00:05:33.000 Apparently, my default response, because they have to put a stent in, but they go through your groin.

00:05:41.000 Yikes.

00:05:42.000 So, apparently, my default response is to protect my dick.

00:05:46.000 Like, I'm waking up, somebody's fucking around down there.

00:05:50.000 It's like, why don't y'all tie me down if it's that important?

00:05:52.000 Why don't you tie my hands down?

00:05:54.000 But maybe they can't.

00:05:55.000 I don't know what else is going on.

00:05:55.000 I don't know.

00:05:57.000 And medical people are real sensitive about criticism.

00:06:01.000 Some of them are really like, we save lives.

00:06:03.000 How dare you?

00:06:04.000 And it's like, all right.

00:06:05.000 Yeah.

00:06:06.000 Yeah, some of y'all are still assholes, though.

00:06:07.000 Well, then they don't have the best sense of humor.

00:06:10.000 They can't.

00:06:11.000 Like, that's not the way you.

00:06:12.000 If you want to be a really good doctor, you can't be also a stand up comedian.

00:06:16.000 Yeah, well, see, the nurses have a sense of humor.

00:06:18.000 Right.

00:06:20.000 Nurses are fun.

00:06:21.000 They might as well be different species.

00:06:22.000 Yeah, nurses are fun.

00:06:24.000 Like, nurses come in, they joke around with you, they fuck around, like some of them do at least.

00:06:27.000 Yeah, and.

00:06:29.000 Some of them kill you.

00:06:30.000 Let's be honest.

00:06:31.000 In Atlanta, the nurses were incredibly attractive.

00:06:35.000 There were hot nurses everywhere.

00:06:35.000 Really?

00:06:37.000 Damn.

00:06:38.000 Like nurses, and it's something about like vet techs, like working at the one, the ladies working at the vet hospitals.

00:06:44.000 Yeah.

00:06:44.000 It's something about going into that field.

00:06:46.000 I don't know what it is.

00:06:48.000 Vet techs, you mean veterinarians?

00:06:50.000 Yeah, like veterinarians, yeah.

00:06:52.000 But not the doctors.

00:06:53.000 Right.

00:06:54.000 Just the nurses.

00:06:55.000 Well, they're people who love animals, sweet people.

00:06:55.000 Just the nurses.

00:06:58.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:59.000 And money.

00:06:59.000 They love animals and money.

00:07:01.000 I, nobody.

00:07:02.000 Well, the nurses don't usually love money.

00:07:04.000 If they did, they wouldn't get into that profession.

00:07:06.000 But the veterinarian hospital certainly loves money.

00:07:09.000 The administration.

00:07:09.000 Speaking of which.

00:07:11.000 I can't decide which pisses me off more is like when I get the bill at the human hospital or when, because at the vet hospital, I feel like they're extorting me.

00:07:25.000 You know, like when I got the bill from this hospital, I was like, God damn.

00:07:28.000 But I was in there and they were, because they didn't walk up to me while, like before the surgery and go, what's it going to be?

00:07:35.000 Right.

00:07:36.000 But when it's your pet, that's what they do.

00:07:38.000 They go, we could do this life saving thing, which is the best thing to do, but it's, Way more money than you have.

00:07:45.000 Or, you know, you can be a piece of shit pet owner and get the $20 thing.

00:07:50.000 Yeah.

00:07:51.000 They'll try to get you to take out a loan, all that.

00:07:54.000 Just really turn the screws.

00:07:55.000 That's awful.

00:07:56.000 Yeah, I don't know when the last time you had to do some serious shit for your pet.

00:07:59.000 Pretty recently.

00:08:00.000 Marshall swallowed a bunch of rocks.

00:08:02.000 Oh, goddamn.

00:08:04.000 Yeah, he.

00:08:06.000 Someone spilled chicken food on the gravel, and he ate all the chicken food and just kept eating and started eating gravel.

00:08:12.000 Oh, my God.

00:08:13.000 He's retarded.

00:08:15.000 He's the sweetest dog that's ever walked to face the earth, but he is not clever.

00:08:21.000 And so we bring him inside.

00:08:24.000 No one knows anything that happened.

00:08:24.000 No one knows.

00:08:26.000 And then he starts throwing up, and he's throwing up rocks, like little pebbles.

00:08:30.000 And then he starts getting diarrhea and he's diarrhea and pebbles.

00:08:33.000 I'm like, oh no.

00:08:35.000 And then we put two and two together.

00:08:36.000 We figured out what happened.

00:08:38.000 And so then I had to take him to the vet.

00:08:39.000 So I took him to the vet and he had to stay there overnight.

00:08:41.000 And luckily, they didn't have to do surgery.

00:08:45.000 They pumped it out of it.

00:08:46.000 They somehow or another got the rocks out of his stomach and they had to keep scanning it to make sure there's no rocks remaining in there.

00:08:52.000 And so he passed all the rocks.

00:08:54.000 He either threw them up or shit them out.

00:08:56.000 And then within a certain amount of time, I think he was there for at least 24 hours.

00:09:01.000 But after a certain amount of time, he started eating and then they weren't worried about him anymore.

00:09:04.000 That dog fucking eats.

00:09:06.000 He just, all he wants to do is eat.

00:09:07.000 He gets so excited.

00:09:08.000 Yeah.

00:09:09.000 All he wants to do is his favorite thing is eat.

00:09:10.000 I want every morsel of flavor out this dirt.

00:09:13.000 It's so crazy he kept eating rocks.

00:09:14.000 I mean, he ate pounds of gravel.

00:09:17.000 It wasn't like a small amount of gravel, it was the amount of gravel that was in my living room on the carpet was crazy.

00:09:24.000 Oh, wow.

00:09:24.000 The out of throw up and just diarrhea.

00:09:27.000 It was everywhere.

00:09:28.000 It was a crime scene.

00:09:29.000 I bet you he won't do that shit again.

00:09:31.000 He will.

00:09:31.000 Oh, yeah, he will.

00:09:32.000 He'll do it tomorrow.

00:09:33.000 Dude, that dog doesn't learn shit.

00:09:35.000 He's the best.

00:09:36.000 Like, he's a sweet dog.

00:09:38.000 I love him so much.

00:09:39.000 I love him so much.

00:09:40.000 He's just all love.

00:09:41.000 Every time I see him, he's just wagging his tail.

00:09:44.000 I get down on the ground with him.

00:09:45.000 He kisses me.

00:09:46.000 I hug him.

00:09:47.000 I rub his belly.

00:09:48.000 He's the best, but he is not.

00:09:50.000 That used to be a wolf.

00:09:51.000 That's what's so fucked up about human beings.

00:09:53.000 We took something that's the most clever, most.

00:09:57.000 They communicate with each other.

00:09:58.000 They plan traps on animals.

00:10:00.000 They're so clever.

00:10:01.000 You can't.

00:10:02.000 And also, you can't train them.

00:10:04.000 You know that about wolves?

00:10:05.000 You can't train them.

00:10:06.000 That's why you don't see wolves in the fucking circus.

00:10:09.000 You cannot train.

00:10:10.000 You could train a bear.

00:10:12.000 You could train a lion.

00:10:13.000 You could train a tiger.

00:10:15.000 Wolves just go, fuck you.

00:10:17.000 I'm going to do exactly what I want to do.

00:10:20.000 But not dogs.

00:10:21.000 Certainly not my dog.

00:10:22.000 Like Marshall, he's the sweetest.

00:10:24.000 Like he was so easy to train.

00:10:26.000 See, that's wild because you can train a lion, but you can't train a house cat.

00:10:28.000 You can't train a wolf.

00:10:29.000 Well, you can train house cats to do certain things.

00:10:32.000 Like some people have trained their house cat to shit in the toilet.

00:10:35.000 No, Joe, there's a video of like.

00:10:38.000 I want to show you, she's Russian.

00:10:40.000 This Russian lady, she's like the world champion cat training lady.

00:10:45.000 And she's getting these cats to do a whole bunch of shit, but every now and then.

00:10:49.000 They just do what the fuck they want.

00:10:49.000 They do what they want.

00:10:50.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:10:51.000 You can't get them to do it like a really good dog will, like a Belgian Malamois that just overshoots her.

00:10:57.000 Absolutely not.

00:10:58.000 Just does every task you ask them to.

00:11:00.000 That's impossible.

00:11:01.000 But with wolves, you can't train them to do anything, they won't listen.

00:11:01.000 Absolutely not.

00:11:05.000 I didn't know that.

00:11:06.000 They don't listen to you at all.

00:11:08.000 I had a friend who had wolves.

00:11:10.000 He had like seven eighth timber wolves, and they got out and killed a bunch of his neighbor's sheep.

00:11:16.000 You couldn't stop them from doing anything they wanted to do, whatever they wanted to do.

00:11:19.000 Why did he have a pack of wolves?

00:11:21.000 He's an idiot.

00:11:22.000 He had three of them.

00:11:23.000 I was like, You don't have these dogs.

00:11:25.000 You just feed them.

00:11:27.000 This is not like a dog.

00:11:29.000 They don't listen to you, and you have a house with a yard.

00:11:29.000 No.

00:11:34.000 That's crazy.

00:11:36.000 You should have an enormous piece of land, and even then, If you have wolves, they're going to kill everything they run across.

00:11:42.000 Yeah, they need miles of space.

00:11:45.000 Yeah, they're cardio machines.

00:11:47.000 They'd run through the mountains.

00:11:48.000 They chased down moose.

00:11:50.000 That's why I get so irritated when, because I'm in apartments now, and I'm in one of those, I don't know what the fuck is going on with my building, but it's full of dog people.

00:12:01.000 Like the building is for dog people.

00:12:03.000 There's a dog wash, all of the grass around it is all fake, and there's fucking shitbags every 10 feet.

00:12:12.000 And the front of the building, from like noon to 4 p.m., it always just, the strongest scent of dog piss because 50 people have walked their dogs around it.

00:12:20.000 And that's fine.

00:12:20.000 I don't mind that at all.

00:12:21.000 But what irritates me is when I see, because I know I have the biggest apartment in the building.

00:12:30.000 And I know that I don't have room for, like, I don't have the room for, like, a blue healer.

00:12:38.000 Right.

00:12:38.000 And it's like, you see motherfuckers with dogs like that.

00:12:40.000 It's like, yo, that dog needs to be running miles every day.

00:12:44.000 Why do you got that big ass dog?

00:12:46.000 Oh, yeah.

00:12:47.000 I saw a damn, I saw a, a, a, A cane corso.

00:12:53.000 That's crazy.

00:12:54.000 It's like you got a cane corso in a 1,300 square foot apartment.

00:13:00.000 That's crazy.

00:13:01.000 That's crazy.

00:13:02.000 And here's the other thing I don't see that motherfucker every day.

00:13:05.000 So you skipping days?

00:13:07.000 This motherfucker needs to hurt things or.

00:13:09.000 It needs to have exercise.

00:13:11.000 It's like having an MMA fighter living in your house.

00:13:15.000 Like you better take him to the fucking gym.

00:13:17.000 Because people always.

00:13:17.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:18.000 It's going to blow off steam.

00:13:19.000 When people find out that I have a cat, they always like, oh, so your apartment smells like a cat.

00:13:22.000 No.

00:13:23.000 No, but you know whose places always smell bad?

00:13:26.000 It's people that have a dog that's too fucking big to be in the place.

00:13:29.000 Yeah.

00:13:30.000 Yeah.

00:13:31.000 Also, they probably can't wash it right.

00:13:34.000 Like, what are you going to do?

00:13:35.000 Do you get in the shower with it?

00:13:37.000 I used to get in the shower with my dogs.

00:13:38.000 I bring Marshall to a groomer, but my dog Johnny, he used to love to get in the shower with me.

00:13:43.000 Really?

00:13:44.000 Yeah.

00:13:45.000 He was a big mastiff, and he loved it because it was just massages and love in the shower.

00:13:50.000 I just covered him with shampoo, and I would talk nice to him.

00:13:52.000 I'd go, oh, we're getting so clean, buddy.

00:13:55.000 You give me kisses.

00:13:56.000 I'm real good.

00:13:57.000 You're good.

00:13:57.000 And there's something about seeing their human with no clothes.

00:14:02.000 I think they lock, because my cat does it.

00:14:04.000 She loves to come in the bathroom whenever she knows I'm naked.

00:14:06.000 Or she has a shower and she just sits there and watch.

00:14:08.000 It's probably weird to them that you could take your clothes off.

00:14:11.000 I mean, no, I think it's weird to them that you wear clothes at all.

00:14:13.000 Oh, for sure.

00:14:14.000 They're like, what?

00:14:15.000 Why are you under the sheets all the time?

00:14:15.000 Yeah, what are you doing?

00:14:17.000 Yeah.

00:14:19.000 And I've softened my stance on people that put clothes on their animals, but I'm like, they don't like it.

00:14:24.000 No, they don't.

00:14:24.000 Well, some dogs, like.

00:14:28.000 Chihuahuas in the winter, it's a good idea.

00:14:31.000 Yeah, but what I mean is, it's like 30 degrees outside of the dog.

00:14:33.000 The dog likes it.

00:14:34.000 No, the dog likes that you like it.

00:14:37.000 They like pleasing you, but they don't want clothes on.

00:14:39.000 They don't, but if you have like a little, like a chihuahua, for instance, they get really cold.

00:14:44.000 Those guys, if you put a little sweater on them, like they feel better outside.

00:14:49.000 It just makes sense.

00:14:50.000 It's warm.

00:14:51.000 But okay, then go all the way there.

00:14:52.000 Where the boots at?

00:14:54.000 Some of them wear boots in the summer because, like, New York City, like the street gets so hot.

00:14:59.000 Yeah.

00:15:00.000 Like, think about how hot the street gets.

00:15:01.000 If it's 98 degrees outside, it was like broken glass.

00:15:04.000 Oh, my God.

00:15:04.000 Yeah.

00:15:05.000 I mean, you're just walking on hot rocks.

00:15:08.000 But also, what are you doing with that big ass dog in New York City?

00:15:08.000 Right.

00:15:10.000 That's true.

00:15:11.000 There are no apartments.

00:15:13.000 Why you got a great Dane out here in New York?

00:15:14.000 I mean, I would have to make a choice.

00:15:16.000 Like, if for some reason I had to move to New York City, I'm not getting rid of my dog and I'm not leaving my dog here.

00:15:23.000 You can't be rid of your dog.

00:15:24.000 No chance.

00:15:25.000 Not a chance in hell.

00:15:26.000 So I would just have to commit to a lifestyle of taking that dog.

00:15:30.000 Out to like Central Park every day, doing things to them every day.

00:15:34.000 I would have to make a choice.

00:15:35.000 Bro, I would have to live near the park for sure.

00:15:38.000 Like, for me to get rid of my cat, it would have to be.

00:15:42.000 They would have to die.

00:15:44.000 They'd have to die, or it would have to be something where, like, I am absolutely not capable of, you know, like, I can't move.

00:15:52.000 Right.

00:15:52.000 Or something crazy like that.

00:15:53.000 Right, Yeah.

00:15:55.000 When I moved out here from Cali, like, she can't fly.

00:16:00.000 Oh, so did you drive her across the country?

00:16:01.000 I paid somebody to.

00:16:02.000 Oh, there you go.

00:16:03.000 Oh, me, that would be a fuck.

00:16:05.000 Actually, I didn't have a car at the time, but that would be a nightmare.

00:16:08.000 This is the most stubborn, like, this creature.

00:16:11.000 Like, I have a hard time getting her.

00:16:12.000 I've taken her to three groomers.

00:16:13.000 They all been like, Yeah, come get her.

00:16:15.000 Yeah, come get her.

00:16:17.000 Because she doesn't like to be restrained in any way.

00:16:21.000 Yeah, and at the slightest sign that you're thinking about holding her down or putting her in something, she will fight with everything she got.

00:16:32.000 Is she a feral cat?

00:16:33.000 Well, she might have been.

00:16:33.000 No.

00:16:35.000 Where'd you get her?

00:16:36.000 I got her.

00:16:37.000 The story the lady told me doesn't really add up, but basically, A divorce happened.

00:16:46.000 This family had two cats and a dog.

00:16:49.000 And then the wife got the house and started fostering animals.

00:16:54.000 And then my cat's brother, so her and her brother were the original cats.

00:17:00.000 My cat's brother started basically like joining this pack of cats against, because Millie don't socialize at all.

00:17:10.000 But her brother kind of turned on her.

00:17:12.000 Game of Thrones.

00:17:13.000 Yeah, and so since then she was just hostile with everybody.

00:17:16.000 Wow.

00:17:17.000 All the animals, I mean.

00:17:18.000 And so when I came to get her, all these animals were in this lady's house except Millie.

00:17:22.000 She was in the garage and they had a little post and she was in the garage.

00:17:25.000 And when I came to take her, she was so down to go.

00:17:28.000 She was like, fuck all them people, fuck my brother, fuck this.

00:17:30.000 She was so down to go.

00:17:31.000 But she likes you?

00:17:32.000 Oh, yeah, she loves me.

00:17:33.000 She still follows me from room to room.

00:17:35.000 Oh, what that sweet.

00:17:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:37.000 There's some cats that just choose one person too.

00:17:39.000 She also hates me too.

00:17:40.000 She hates you?

00:17:41.000 I think she hates.

00:17:42.000 She probably had bad experiences.

00:17:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:46.000 She's got some kind of trauma that I'll never know about.

00:17:48.000 You got to give her some kitty cat ayahuasca.

00:17:51.000 Bro, I've had to put her on CBD and shit before we go to the vet.

00:17:55.000 Really?

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00:18:55.000 Do you ever put her in catnip?

00:18:56.000 You ever give her catnip?

00:18:57.000 Oh, yeah, sometimes, yeah.

00:18:58.000 Does she get high and roll around and get freaky?

00:19:00.000 She loves it.

00:19:01.000 What is it?

00:19:02.000 It's so weird.

00:19:03.000 What does cat.

00:19:03.000 It works on every cat.

00:19:04.000 I've never seen a cat where it doesn't work on.

00:19:07.000 Imagine, I mean, if there's shit like that for people.

00:19:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:19:10.000 You just give someone.

00:19:11.000 We got plenty of shit like that.

00:19:13.000 But I don't know if it gets them high.

00:19:14.000 I don't know what it's doing to them.

00:19:16.000 Well, let's find out.

00:19:16.000 To them?

00:19:18.000 I really have no idea what the mechanism of.

00:19:21.000 Let's put this into perplexity.

00:19:23.000 All right, Jeremy, what's perplexity?

00:19:24.000 Catnip is an aromatic herb.

00:19:26.000 Perplexity is our AI sponsor.

00:19:28.000 Really?

00:19:29.000 Yes, we have an AI sponsor.

00:19:30.000 Oh, shit, okay.

00:19:31.000 It's the shit.

00:19:33.000 It's not ideologically captured.

00:19:34.000 Catnip is an aromatic herb in the mint family whose leaves and stems contain a chemical.

00:19:40.000 How do you say that word?

00:19:41.000 Nepetalla.

00:19:45.000 Want to try that, Jamie?

00:19:46.000 I'm going to say Nepetalactone.

00:19:48.000 Nepetalactone.

00:19:49.000 I think you're right.

00:19:50.000 Nepetalactone.

00:19:51.000 That triggers playful or euphoric behavior in many cats.

00:19:56.000 Many cats?

00:19:57.000 Interesting.

00:19:57.000 I thought it was all cats.

00:20:00.000 Plant is native to Eurasia, now common across temperate regions, and is easy to grow in North America, often in gardens or pots.

00:20:06.000 Why cats react to it.

00:20:08.000 Catnip contains an oil whose main active compound is nepotalactone, a type of terpene produced in glands on the leaves and stems.

00:20:17.000 When the cats smell nepotalactone, it binds to receptors in their nose and stimulates brain pathways linked to mood, leading to behaviors like rolling, rubbing, purring, meowing, jumping, or brief zoomies.

00:20:32.000 Only about two thirds.

00:20:33.000 80% of cats are sensitive to catnip.

00:20:33.000 Oh, okay.

00:20:36.000 The tendency is genetic.

00:20:37.000 The effect usually lasts 5 to 15 minutes, after which they become temporarily immune for a while.

00:20:43.000 Interesting.

00:20:45.000 Is it safe?

00:20:46.000 For most cats, catnip is considered non toxic and safe, and many vets recommend it as an enrichment to encourage play and reduce boredom or stress.

00:20:54.000 Eating a small amount is usually fine and may soothe the digestive tract, but large amounts can cause short lived stomach upset, vomiting, diarrhea, or dizziness.

00:21:03.000 Your cat's just a fucking fiend.

00:21:06.000 Oh shit, you only supposed to give a pinch?

00:21:08.000 I don't know.

00:21:09.000 That's what it says down there.

00:21:10.000 Only a pinch.

00:21:11.000 Because of this, people typically offer just a pinch of dried or fresh.

00:21:11.000 Oh, here it goes.

00:21:15.000 How much do you give your cat?

00:21:16.000 Bro.

00:21:17.000 I don't fucked her world.

00:21:24.000 Oh my God.

00:21:25.000 You give her a fat bag?

00:21:28.000 You give her a fat bag?

00:21:29.000 I just let her go at it, man.

00:21:31.000 You know what's funny, man?

00:21:32.000 My cat is very.

00:21:33.000 Like, I let her do what she wants.

00:21:35.000 You know, like, I let her.

00:21:37.000 She can go outside, like, you know.

00:21:39.000 She's not an outdoor cat, but if she wants to go out, I open the door.

00:21:42.000 Because I make sure, you know what it is?

00:21:43.000 I make sure outside is not some mystery place that she.

00:21:48.000 If she wants to go, I open the door and let her go.

00:21:50.000 And then after she gets cold or hear something and smell it, run back in the house.

00:21:54.000 Because that way, she's not like just dying to go out there all the time.

00:21:57.000 Right, right, right.

00:21:58.000 I'm not worried about her running away.

00:21:59.000 I worry about coyotes, man.

00:22:01.000 When you let cats out, man, coyotes are fucking.

00:22:03.000 They target your house.

00:22:05.000 They know where the cats are, they know the cats that get let out.

00:22:07.000 Yeah, but it's like.

00:22:10.000 Nothing comes near my building because it just smells like 50 dogs live there.

00:22:14.000 Yeah, but they eat dogs too.

00:22:16.000 Really?

00:22:18.000 Yeah, my daughter's puppy got eaten by a coyote in California.

00:22:22.000 Guy was training and he left the puppy outside and got eaten by coyotes.

00:22:25.000 Bro, I haven't seen any coyotes.

00:22:27.000 Oh, I've seen them.

00:22:28.000 Also, but here's the other thing too.

00:22:31.000 My girl is, you know, she takes zero chances.

00:22:36.000 The slightest sign of danger, and she already got.

00:22:38.000 Wow!

00:22:39.000 No, she got 50 spots to hide and run.

00:22:42.000 Like, she's never gotten into it with anything.

00:22:44.000 The thing about coyotes is they're predators, right?

00:22:47.000 And cats are predators too, but pets are different than wild animals.

00:22:53.000 Yeah, this big thing.

00:22:54.000 They're very different.

00:22:55.000 She'll bring a fucking mouse in the house.

00:22:56.000 Yeah, I mean, they kill stuff.

00:22:58.000 They kill stuff for fun, but there's a difference between that and needing to eat and needing to, like, eat cats in order to survive, which is what coyotes do.

00:23:06.000 So, coyotes know where the cats are.

00:23:08.000 They know what they smell when cats are.

00:23:11.000 Peeing outside.

00:23:13.000 So they know a cat lives in the house and they know the cat pees outside.

00:23:16.000 They just hover nearby and wait because they know it's a matter of time before the cat has to go outside.

00:23:21.000 You know what's funny, man?

00:23:22.000 I haven't seen the coyote the whole time I lived in Austin.

00:23:24.000 I think it's been three years now.

00:23:26.000 They hide.

00:23:27.000 I saw them all the time in LA, though.

00:23:27.000 I know.

00:23:29.000 You'll see them.

00:23:30.000 You know what it is?

00:23:30.000 They exist.

00:23:31.000 I think it's that the The ones out here aren't starving like the ones in LA were.

00:23:34.000 Right.

00:23:35.000 Because they get bolder and bolder the hungrier they get.

00:23:38.000 Well, the thing about Austin as opposed to LA is there's a lot of animals and there's a lot of moisture, right?

00:23:44.000 So if you're outside of the greater Austin area, like a lot of these coyotes, I see them all the time out where I live because there's a lot of animals where I live.

00:23:52.000 I see foxes almost every day.

00:23:55.000 I see armadillos a couple times a week.

00:23:58.000 I see deer every day.

00:24:00.000 I always see the, especially when I come home, I see foxes run across the road.

00:24:03.000 There's all kinds of animals.

00:24:05.000 So, there's all kinds of things that coyotes eat.

00:24:07.000 A lot of rabbits, all kinds of things coyotes eat.

00:24:09.000 And so, they don't have to come into the city.

00:24:12.000 Whereas in L.A., you've got L.A., and then everything around L.A. is just barren.

00:24:18.000 It's all dry and fucked up, and you might find a rabbit, but it's way easy to eat someone's cat.

00:24:24.000 And I think that every person doesn't realize how many coyotes are around them.

00:24:29.000 Oh, yeah.

00:24:30.000 Every major city, they're like raccoons.

00:24:32.000 They're in every city.

00:24:34.000 Everywhere.

00:24:34.000 There's a great book on it called Coyote America.

00:24:37.000 Oh.

00:24:37.000 Yeah, it's really good.

00:24:39.000 And it's all about how coyotes what happens is when they yell out, they're doing like a roll call.

00:24:48.000 And when they're doing a roll call, they're letting all the other coyotes know that they're there.

00:24:53.000 And when one of them's missing, the female coyotes assume that that coyote's dead.

00:24:59.000 And so their body responds by making a larger litter.

00:25:03.000 What?

00:25:03.000 Yeah, so they'll have more babies if someone's missing.

00:25:06.000 Damn, death makes them horny?

00:25:08.000 Well, it makes them have more children.

00:25:10.000 They always have children.

00:25:11.000 They're always horny, right?

00:25:12.000 But they, instead of having three pups, they'll have six.

00:25:16.000 And they spread out because they were persecuted by gray wolves.

00:25:20.000 Like, that's the whole deal.

00:25:22.000 And being gray wolves and red wolves, so coyotes and red wolves mate with each other.

00:25:30.000 That's why you get what they call a koi wolf.

00:25:32.000 But it really is a coyote, it's a type of wolf.

00:25:35.000 But they're not related to the gray wolves.

00:25:38.000 And gray wolves and coyotes don't mate.

00:25:40.000 So, gray wolves, the ones that have been like Colorado and, you know, like Montana, those wolves just eat coyotes.

00:25:47.000 They just kill them.

00:25:49.000 Like, they don't fuck around.

00:25:50.000 So, there's no chance of becoming allies.

00:25:54.000 So, those coyotes learned a long time ago when they start getting killed by wolves, just spread out.

00:25:59.000 Just get the fuck out of there.

00:26:00.000 Keep moving.

00:26:01.000 That's why they're in 50 states.

00:26:03.000 They're in every city in the country now.

00:26:06.000 And that wasn't the case when I was a kid.

00:26:08.000 When I was a kid, like, I grew up in Massachusetts in my high school years, there was no fucking coyotes.

00:26:13.000 Nobody, I never even heard of anybody seeing a coyote.

00:26:16.000 Yeah, me neither.

00:26:17.000 I never saw a coyote in my life until 1994.

00:26:23.000 Remember in LA, they had those Oakwood Garden apartments?

00:26:26.000 It's like furnished apartments that they had in LA.

00:26:29.000 And I was driving to it.

00:26:30.000 It's like when I first moved there.

00:26:32.000 I didn't have an apartment yet.

00:26:33.000 When I first moved there, I was like, those fucking dogs?

00:26:35.000 Are these dogs?

00:26:36.000 I'm like, oh shit, those are coyotes.

00:26:38.000 I remember pulling the car over, looking at them like, this is weird.

00:26:42.000 These weird little wolves just wandering around the city.

00:26:45.000 Like, that's how you know you see in a coyote.

00:26:46.000 You're like, is that a dog?

00:26:48.000 Well, that was the first time, and that was in 94.

00:26:51.000 But by the time, you know, we left in 2020, fucking, they were everywhere.

00:26:57.000 I mean, everywhere.

00:26:58.000 Like, they expanded.

00:26:59.000 Yeah, they were everywhere.

00:27:01.000 And now they're in New York City.

00:27:02.000 They find them in the middle of the fucking park.

00:27:06.000 They find them in the Bronx.

00:27:08.000 They're in abandoned buildings.

00:27:09.000 They're all over the place.

00:27:10.000 They're in Chicago.

00:27:12.000 Coyotes are all over the whole country.

00:27:14.000 When I was in LA, one of the neighborhoods I lived in, I was in the neighborhood Facebook group.

00:27:21.000 And there was a dude in there.

00:27:22.000 His name was Coyote.

00:27:23.000 The guy's name was Coyote.

00:27:25.000 He just wanted everybody to know that he loved coyotes so much.

00:27:27.000 And he would literally, he would defend coyotes no matter what the fuck they did.

00:27:32.000 Like, somebody would be in the Facebook group, hey, a coyote fucking ate my dog right out of my hands.

00:27:36.000 Watch out.

00:27:37.000 And this guy would be like, if anybody here harms a coyote, they have to answer to me fuck your dog.

00:27:41.000 Oh, God.

00:27:42.000 I think his name was like, his name was like Coyote Jones or something like that.

00:27:42.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:46.000 He was serious.

00:27:47.000 He was real serious.

00:27:48.000 Really into coyotes?

00:27:50.000 He was, you know, everybody got their thing.

00:27:53.000 Wow.

00:27:54.000 They're an interesting animal, man.

00:27:56.000 That's, it's really interesting in that book.

00:27:58.000 It was, it's all about.

00:28:00.000 You know who's, um, I just saw something about how raccoons are the next animal that's being tamed or domesticated or whatever.

00:28:11.000 Oh, I believe that.

00:28:12.000 The ones in the city are starting to have shorter snouts.

00:28:16.000 Oh, whoa.

00:28:17.000 Yeah, they're starting to look more like how wolves became bitch ass wolves when they came around the fire.

00:28:22.000 They're basically starting to get cuter.

00:28:24.000 Like dogs.

00:28:25.000 The ones closer to us are getting cuter because they know it gets them treated better.

00:28:29.000 Wow.

00:28:30.000 The cuter ones have more babies.

00:28:32.000 The same thing.

00:28:33.000 Wow.

00:28:34.000 I know, and that's crazy.

00:28:35.000 Because I read somewhere that we haven't actually domesticated cats or not.

00:28:39.000 That makes sense.

00:28:39.000 Maybe domesticated isn't the word, but.

00:28:41.000 Never got them to the point where we did with dogs.

00:28:43.000 Exactly.

00:28:44.000 But raccoons are getting there.

00:28:47.000 That's so interesting.

00:28:49.000 But it makes sense.

00:28:50.000 Did you ever hear about that Russian study they did with foxes?

00:28:53.000 Like how quickly you can domesticate a fox?

00:28:55.000 Oh, no.

00:28:56.000 I didn't know that you could do that.

00:28:57.000 That's really quick.

00:28:58.000 So you start out with foxes, and any fox that shows any aggression, you start out with a bunch of foxes.

00:29:04.000 Any fox that shows any aggression to a person, you kill it.

00:29:07.000 On the spot.

00:29:08.000 Oh.

00:29:09.000 Bang.

00:29:10.000 Dead.

00:29:10.000 Fuck you.

00:29:11.000 Get all the ones that survive or ones that have no aggression towards people.

00:29:15.000 And then slowly their snouts get shorter and their ears start to flop.

00:29:18.000 And over the course of like 10 years, you got a totally different animal.

00:29:21.000 See if you can find that, Jim.

00:29:22.000 Why don't people do that?

00:29:23.000 Well, they did do that with this one study, but it was just to show how quick things change, like given natural selection.

00:29:31.000 Like natural selection dictated that if you're a sweeter fox, you live.

00:29:35.000 If you show your teeth, they fucking shoot you in the head.

00:29:38.000 And I'm sure Russian scientists are probably a little bit more hardcore.

00:29:42.000 Oh, Chinese.

00:29:43.000 Here it is Dmitry Belov in Ludmilla Trut.

00:29:48.000 The Russian Fox Domestication Program is a long term experiment in Novosibirsk, Siberia, that successfully bred domesticated silver foxes, a form of red fox, selecting specifically for tameness.

00:30:04.000 After over 60 years and dozens of generations, foxes act like domesticated elite pets.

00:30:10.000 Displaying dog like behavior such as tail wagging, licking, and whining for attention.

00:30:15.000 So you could buy them?

00:30:16.000 Can you buy one of these foxes?

00:30:17.000 That's crazy.

00:30:19.000 See if there's a video.

00:30:20.000 Oh, you can get one for 9,000 bucks.

00:30:24.000 What?

00:30:25.000 Known for high energy and needing intensive care.

00:30:27.000 Yeah, you don't want that in your fucking 1,300 square foot apartment.

00:30:30.000 What makes them elite, though?

00:30:32.000 It is interesting, right?

00:30:33.000 What does that mean?

00:30:38.000 Does it look like AI?

00:30:40.000 Let's see.

00:30:42.000 It's who knows nowadays, right?

00:30:44.000 Oh, look at this lady's got a fox as a pet.

00:30:48.000 Oh, wow.

00:30:49.000 They're like little dogs.

00:30:50.000 That's crazy, bro.

00:30:54.000 But the thing about foxes are they are like playful in the wild, even while foxes are playful with people.

00:31:01.000 Oh, this little guy's missing a foot.

00:31:06.000 I don't know if those are wild or the thing.

00:31:10.000 These are just different foxes.

00:31:12.000 I don't think these are those foxes.

00:31:13.000 This is just.

00:31:15.000 It's showing the info and then showing a bunch of different foxes.

00:31:15.000 Right.

00:31:17.000 But if you remember Grizzly Man, like that movie, the Warren Herzog movie.

00:31:22.000 So he was living in the middle of Alaska around these bears, and the foxes would come and hang out with him.

00:31:30.000 And the foxes would hang out in his tent.

00:31:33.000 They would play with him.

00:31:33.000 They stole his hat once and ran away with his hat, and he was chasing them, trying to get his hat back.

00:31:38.000 And the bears don't attack the foxes?

00:31:41.000 Well, they probably would if they could, but foxes probably can get away.

00:31:45.000 I mean, they probably catch a fox slipping every now and then, but mostly what they were looking for up there was salmon.

00:31:50.000 They were eating a lot of salmon.

00:31:51.000 And when bears get salmon, that's all they want.

00:31:54.000 There's a crazy video that we've shown before of this guy, and they're on the edge of a river, and the salmon are running.

00:32:00.000 There's all these bears in there that'll just like just gorging on salmon, which is why those coastal bears are so much bigger.

00:32:08.000 Like Kodiak bears, like Alaska, the reason why they're so much bigger is because they have access to salmon, they have access to fish, and all the other animals that are there too.

00:32:15.000 But when there's a salmon run, that's all they want.

00:32:19.000 They just want to eat salmon.

00:32:20.000 So you're saying, like, if you give salmon to a bear that's never had salmon before, it'll just, that's all it'll want after then?

00:32:25.000 No, that's not what I'm saying.

00:32:26.000 It's probably delicious.

00:32:26.000 I wouldn't.

00:32:27.000 I mean, that's why we like sashimi.

00:32:29.000 But I think it's the access is so easy.

00:32:33.000 They don't have to chase anything.

00:32:34.000 They just stand in the river.

00:32:35.000 It literally comes to them.

00:32:36.000 They just bite it out of the air.

00:32:38.000 You see how bears do that?

00:32:39.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:39.000 And bears are kind of lazy.

00:32:40.000 Like, if they can preserve energy, they will.

00:32:42.000 They just want to get fat for hibernation, right?

00:32:45.000 So they just want to eat as much as possible.

00:32:46.000 So the point is, like, when they're like that and they're just eating fish, you don't even have to worry about them.

00:32:52.000 They're not even going to kill you.

00:32:53.000 So this dude is, like, sitting there.

00:32:55.000 He's got, like, a little lawn chair.

00:32:56.000 And this fucking Giant bear just walks up beside him and sits down.

00:33:03.000 Like, sits down almost like a person.

00:33:05.000 And they're like, hey, get out of here.

00:33:07.000 Hey.

00:33:08.000 But I mean, it is as close to him as you are to me.

00:33:10.000 And it might be a thousand pounds.

00:33:13.000 I mean, this thing is fucking gigantic.

00:33:15.000 And you see the river behind him.

00:33:18.000 So you see all these bears that are just scooping salmon out of the river.

00:33:20.000 And what is the bear trying to tell him about doing that?

00:33:23.000 Bears on it doesn't give a fuck.

00:33:24.000 He just comes to sit down.

00:33:25.000 Like, you might be a stick or a person.

00:33:28.000 It's eating salmon.

00:33:28.000 It doesn't matter.

00:33:30.000 Like, watch this.

00:33:30.000 It's right.

00:33:31.000 Look at this.

00:33:32.000 This dude's just sitting there with his fucking chair, and this giant ass bear just comes next to him.

00:33:41.000 Look at the size of that thing.

00:33:42.000 But it's not interested in him at all.

00:33:46.000 It's not like playing coy.

00:33:48.000 It's not pretending it's not going to kill him.

00:33:50.000 It doesn't care about him.

00:33:53.000 It doesn't think that he's going to eat it.

00:33:56.000 That's for sure, right?

00:33:57.000 So it's like he's just chilling.

00:33:59.000 That might as well be.

00:34:01.000 Look at it.

00:34:02.000 He sits down like a person.

00:34:03.000 Oh, bro.

00:34:06.000 You know what it is about these motherfuckers is how fast it can go from this to terrifying.

00:34:10.000 Yeah, to 45 miles an hour.

00:34:12.000 But look, it's like, hey, get out of here.

00:34:14.000 Then it walks off.

00:34:16.000 It's like, all right, I'm not looking for any trouble.

00:34:21.000 Just hanging out.

00:34:22.000 It's amazing that the thing listens to him.

00:34:25.000 But it's also amazing that he's not freaked out.

00:34:27.000 I guess he's taking a photo.

00:34:28.000 So in that video, you see there's a ton of bears.

00:34:30.000 So they're just hanging out in that stream.

00:34:32.000 They just lay, and they don't fight with each other either.

00:34:35.000 During those situations, because they know there's so much salmon, there's enough for everybody.

00:34:39.000 So, like, if one of them kills a moose, right, the other ones will come over and try to steal it from them.

00:34:44.000 Fuck you, that's my moose.

00:34:45.000 And they'll, because there's only one food source.

00:34:48.000 But on these rivers, there's just constant fish coming out.

00:34:52.000 So they're just grabbing them and eating them.

00:34:55.000 And they're fucking gigantic because of that.

00:34:59.000 We don't know shit about these animals, man.

00:35:00.000 We know a little.

00:35:01.000 You know, I just saw some shit about Florida.

00:35:04.000 So they have a serious.

00:35:06.000 Snake problem now.

00:35:11.000 Like, I think it's.

00:35:13.000 Pythons.

00:35:13.000 Yeah, it's pythons.

00:35:14.000 And how to do it on?

00:35:16.000 Python cowboy.

00:35:17.000 He gave us a head.

00:35:18.000 Where is that head?

00:35:19.000 Do you know what that head is?

00:35:21.000 Well, yeah, well, they so they they have they've been trying to catch so apparently it came from the 80s and the 90s of like a big python pet boom and it was a research center that got hit by a hurricane, right?

00:35:33.000 That's what I was about to say.

00:35:34.000 The hurricane came, they released them to the wild.

00:35:37.000 Now it's a problem, and they tried paying hunters to get them and they tried training dogs to find them, and nothing is good enough.

00:35:44.000 But then they made robot rabbits.

00:35:50.000 You see this?

00:35:51.000 Yeah, they made robot rabbits.

00:35:54.000 And they made them, they made them, they put them in these boxes and they generated fake body heat and the scent of rabbits and everything.

00:36:05.000 And it did attract, it did pull the snakes, but it pulled everything else too.

00:36:09.000 So what ended up happening is the snake's only natural predator was these, was alligators.

00:36:16.000 And the alligators was fucking these things up and the snakes purposely avoid the alligators.

00:36:24.000 So it ended up having the opposite effect.

00:36:26.000 Stayed away, and the alligators were fucking these boxes up.

00:36:29.000 Oh, wow.

00:36:29.000 And it was almost a complete waste.

00:36:32.000 But then, one of the nerds, as they were about to shut the whole fucking thing down, he noticed in the data that what they actually found out, so they plugged it into AI, and the AI did this whole fucking map of all the data.

00:36:47.000 Because apparently, before every attack, those boxes were still like tracking movement and everything was going on.

00:36:55.000 And they found out that the animals have like highways.

00:37:00.000 So it's not that the snakes were in random places.

00:37:03.000 It's that the snakes and the alligators were using these highways that only they could smell of like the quickest ways to get through the Everglades and stuff like that.

00:37:14.000 And so they were able, so now they just know where they are and they know how they get from one part of the swamp to the other.

00:37:22.000 And they didn't, so we learned something.

00:37:24.000 We still don't know what the fuck to do about the pythons.

00:37:27.000 They use dogs a lot.

00:37:29.000 Where the dogs find the eggs.

00:37:31.000 Well, they trained these two dogs specifically, but they got to the point where it's like, you know, it's just so much ground to cover.

00:37:39.000 Two dogs ain't going to do it.

00:37:40.000 And it would, because that's the problem with the pythons.

00:37:42.000 I mean, we could wipe them out if we wanted.

00:37:44.000 I don't think we can.

00:37:45.000 Well, the problem is The Everglades are so big.

00:37:47.000 Well, that's my point.

00:37:47.000 Is we can't, like, the cost of doing it, we just haven't found a way where we can do it where it doesn't cost just a crazy amount of money.

00:37:57.000 Well, you think about all the money they do spend shit on.

00:37:59.000 Like, if they got all this Somali daycare center money back, we can kill the snakes.

00:38:05.000 Yo, did you see Ilhan Omar?

00:38:07.000 She was reading off of a script.

00:38:10.000 She's the woman who's a congresswoman from Minnesota, from Minneapolis.

00:38:15.000 And she's connected, at least accused of being connected to the Somali daycare center.

00:38:21.000 She's Somali.

00:38:22.000 She's accused of being connected to this fraud.

00:38:25.000 So she's reading off this script.

00:38:28.000 And you know how people write World War II and they use like I I for two?

00:38:33.000 Okay, yeah.

00:38:34.000 She reads it as World War 11.

00:38:40.000 This is a congressperson?

00:38:41.000 She's a congresswoman!

00:38:42.000 See if you can find the video, Jamie.

00:38:44.000 It's kind of adorable.

00:38:46.000 It's kind of adorable because I don't think English is her first language already.

00:38:50.000 At least it doesn't sound like it.

00:38:52.000 The last time the Alien Enemies Act was invoked, it was used to detain and deport German, Japanese, Italian immigrants during World War 11.

00:39:02.000 Oh, two.

00:39:05.000 At least she caught it, though.

00:39:07.000 I didn't know she caught it.

00:39:08.000 I never saw it.

00:39:09.000 They always cut it off before she caught it.

00:39:11.000 Well, that's politics, bro.

00:39:14.000 Politics is fucking brutal, man.

00:39:15.000 It's gross.

00:39:17.000 I don't understand why anybody would want to go into it.

00:39:19.000 But you're mad.

00:39:20.000 How could you say World War 11?

00:39:21.000 Like, you know, there haven't been nine other wars you forgot about.

00:39:26.000 But I've said way dumber shit today.

00:39:29.000 But have you ever been reading off a written speech?

00:39:32.000 I mean, oh man, I would almost be.

00:39:36.000 You know what it is?

00:39:36.000 I do on a daily basis, I do things or say things that.

00:39:45.000 Like, I'm like, I definitely shouldn't have children.

00:39:48.000 Well, if you did, they'd make fun of you.

00:39:48.000 You know?

00:39:50.000 I'm too forgetful.

00:39:51.000 I say stupid shit, and my kids make fun of me.

00:39:53.000 It's normal.

00:39:54.000 It's part of being a person to pretend that you don't say stupid shit.

00:39:58.000 But the thing is, like, you and I say stupid shit publicly.

00:40:02.000 Like, we'll say stupid shit on a podcast.

00:40:04.000 Oh, yeah.

00:40:04.000 And sometimes you're paid for it.

00:40:07.000 But I'm talking about stuff that I would be embarrassed to have said publicly.

00:40:11.000 Like World War 11.

00:40:12.000 Yeah, like World War 11.

00:40:14.000 Because I'm telling you, I do shit like that all the time.

00:40:16.000 I have wacky.

00:40:18.000 Tony makes fun of me all the time because he's like, you're like a cartoon character.

00:40:22.000 I have that kind of luck where he's like, sometimes I just have those days, man.

00:40:26.000 I wake up.

00:40:26.000 This happened like the.

00:40:28.000 Remember when I was, so last Tuesday, right?

00:40:30.000 Last bottom of the barrel, you walked in the green room and I told you I went to go smell the candle and I didn't know, those are those jelly roll candles?

00:40:38.000 And it's a bong.

00:40:40.000 And I wasn't thinking about it and I went to smell the candle and poured the wax on my clothes right before I got to go off stage.

00:40:45.000 And I was wearing like light pants so it looked like I jizzed on my pants as the wax was drying.

00:40:51.000 And that's why I went home early that day because I was like, it was one of those days I woke up and the day started that way.

00:40:59.000 I woke up to my CPAP machine.

00:41:01.000 Crashing on the floor because I rolled over and pulled it off my nightstand.

00:41:05.000 And I get up to go deal with that and I fucking stub my toe.

00:41:09.000 And I'm like, it's gonna be one of these days.

00:41:10.000 It's gonna be one of these fucking days.

00:41:11.000 I'm gonna drop a glass in the kitchen, you know.

00:41:15.000 So you just said, let's call it a day.

00:41:16.000 I said, let it be.

00:41:17.000 I call it go home, go right to sleep.

00:41:18.000 Interesting.

00:41:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:20.000 So you gave up on the day?

00:41:22.000 No, I still, I mean, I still ended up at the mothership that night.

00:41:25.000 But your set was good though.

00:41:27.000 My set was good, but I took a nap.

00:41:29.000 I napped till the mothership.

00:41:31.000 I got a reset.

00:41:32.000 Take this edible, take a strong nap, get to the mothership, do my sales, leave.

00:41:35.000 Almost like it's a new day because you just woke up.

00:41:38.000 But no, but then I spilled the wax on me.

00:41:40.000 Oh.

00:41:40.000 So my brain was like, you don't get to cheat.

00:41:43.000 Interesting.

00:41:44.000 The idea of good days and bad days based on just like, this is what the world has planned for you today.

00:41:50.000 This is a bad day.

00:41:51.000 You know what it is?

00:41:52.000 If I don't get the sunshine, like I, because I'm a night owl, which kind of sucks, but if either I need to stay up for the sunshine because I got the blackout curtains, but if I wake up late in the day, And I don't get no sunshine, I just feel dumber.

00:42:08.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:42:09.000 I do too.

00:42:10.000 Yeah.

00:42:11.000 Yeah, if I wake up late, even if I get a good amount of sleep, like more than five hours, but if I was up really late at night and then I wake up late, I feel off.

00:42:20.000 Because your whole system's all scrambled.

00:42:22.000 Your system is used to waking up in the morning and going to bed at night.

00:42:26.000 But if you stay up late, like your brain is working on like 40% capacity.

00:42:30.000 Sometimes I, sometimes I, because I'll get, I'm a big gamer.

00:42:35.000 Sometimes I'll get it.

00:42:36.000 And I'm one of those people who's like, if I pay $60 for a game, now it's like $80.

00:42:40.000 But I'm going to play the fuck out of it.

00:42:41.000 Like the day it comes out, I'm playing it all night.

00:42:44.000 So you're playing online or you're playing the game itself?

00:42:47.000 Both.

00:42:48.000 It depends on the game.

00:42:48.000 Both.

00:42:49.000 What are the games that you like?

00:42:51.000 All type of shit.

00:42:51.000 Like what's the big one right now?

00:42:53.000 Right now, the game I'm playing the most is called Deadlock.

00:42:58.000 It's not open available to the public.

00:43:00.000 It isn't?

00:43:01.000 Dude, you're a developer?

00:43:01.000 No.

00:43:02.000 I don't get this shit.

00:43:03.000 No, but you have to be invited.

00:43:06.000 It's a closed beta or playtest.

00:43:09.000 That's how hardcore you are.

00:43:10.000 You get.

00:43:11.000 Invited to beta tests?

00:43:12.000 Oh, yeah.

00:43:13.000 I got a bunch of nerdy friends.

00:43:14.000 Wow.

00:43:15.000 Yeah, actually, my little one of my little nerd groups is like it's it through one of the servers at the mothership.

00:43:20.000 We all game, we on the same discord.

00:43:23.000 We'll get on there, we don't because it's nice to have a group where it's like some new come out and we like, yo, this is death lock.

00:43:29.000 Oh, yeah, this looks cool.

00:43:31.000 This cooler than a motherfucker.

00:43:32.000 Oh, wow, it also will make you mad as so it's third person.

00:43:37.000 So you look at it in third person, yeah, it's third person, and you get to pick who you are.

00:43:40.000 Oh, what is that?

00:43:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:42.000 Right now, I think there's 34 characters, so look, that's all different people.

00:43:48.000 There's a lot of information on the screen that just popped up.

00:43:51.000 Yeah.

00:43:51.000 What's all those?

00:43:51.000 Oh, yeah.

00:43:53.000 Buddy, this is.

00:43:54.000 What are all those things?

00:43:55.000 This is crazy.

00:43:56.000 I'm going to fuck this up in a bunch of people.

00:43:57.000 Okay.

00:43:57.000 So, so basically, okay.

00:44:01.000 So, so basically, so see, see that bottom, that bottom left number, the green number, 3003?

00:44:08.000 Yeah.

00:44:08.000 So those are souls, which is just money.

00:44:08.000 Okay.

00:44:11.000 Your monies are souls?

00:44:12.000 Yeah.

00:44:13.000 In this game, just think of souls as dollars.

00:44:15.000 Okay.

00:44:15.000 So she's got $3,000.

00:44:17.000 And basically, So, the thing she just left is the lane she was in.

00:44:24.000 And basically, how well you're playing the game, how many kills you get, how many minions you're getting, you get more money.

00:44:30.000 And the money lets you go buy those items.

00:44:32.000 That's what all those cards are underneath those people.

00:44:33.000 It tells you what everyone's bought.

00:44:35.000 Okay.

00:44:35.000 And since this bitch got the most money, she's bought the most stuff, which makes her stronger.

00:44:39.000 So, this game's all about getting the money to get stronger faster so you can win.

00:44:44.000 Oh, okay.

00:44:45.000 Yeah.

00:44:46.000 It's like a zip line.

00:44:47.000 Is he on a zip line here?

00:44:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:48.000 Because if you see on the right hand side, That's the map.

00:44:53.000 So there's three different lanes you have to control, right?

00:44:58.000 And that big box is like the.

00:45:03.000 Man, this is a lot to.

00:45:04.000 Is this like League of Legends, but on the ground?

00:45:06.000 Exactly.

00:45:07.000 Okay.

00:45:07.000 I'm glad you put it like that.

00:45:08.000 But that doesn't help Joe at all.

00:45:09.000 It doesn't help me at all.

00:45:11.000 He's like, thank you.

00:45:12.000 Yeah.

00:45:14.000 Okay, so see.

00:45:15.000 It looks fun.

00:45:16.000 See the yellow side?

00:45:17.000 See the yellow side on the left hand side of the map?

00:45:19.000 Okay, that first tower is where you start at.

00:45:22.000 Oh, okay.

00:45:22.000 And the point is to get stronger, get underneath that, destroy it.

00:45:25.000 Then you work down to the second one.

00:45:27.000 That one is a little stronger.

00:45:28.000 It defends itself.

00:45:29.000 That's what she's in front of right now.

00:45:30.000 All right.

00:45:31.000 And then.

00:45:32.000 Yeah, it's two teams trying to.

00:45:32.000 They're on teams.

00:45:34.000 And you're basically trying to work yourself down to their base and kill the one on their base.

00:45:39.000 Oh, wow.

00:45:40.000 So you join up with a team of guys that are playing this online.

00:45:43.000 Yeah, it's six on six.

00:45:45.000 Oh, wow.

00:45:46.000 But then they just.

00:45:47.000 But here's the thing this is all very complicated and all this, but they just introduced brawl mode.

00:45:52.000 Which is, or street brawl, which is basically, it knocks it down to four on four.

00:45:57.000 It makes it one lane and it gives you random items.

00:46:00.000 So you don't have to do any of the complicated shit.

00:46:02.000 You can just get in and get in.

00:46:06.000 So you get in, run around, grab something and beat people up with it?

00:46:09.000 Yeah.

00:46:09.000 So basically, the brawl mode is just a condensed version of the game where you're just fighting.

00:46:14.000 You don't have to worry about managing anything.

00:46:16.000 Boy, that looks like it would take up a lot of time.

00:46:18.000 Oh, buddy.

00:46:20.000 Yeah, because here's the thing.

00:46:21.000 What's crazy about shit like that is if you're.

00:46:25.000 If somehow you end up in a game where everyone knows what they're doing and everyone's communicating, one of those games can be over in 25 minutes.

00:46:33.000 But if you're on a game, that's probably not going to happen.

00:46:37.000 So it could go anywhere from 25 minutes to an hour.

00:46:40.000 I've seen games go an hour.

00:46:42.000 Yeah.

00:46:43.000 So it's like, but most of it, if a game is going that long, it's just because it's either because people are playing with you.

00:46:49.000 Because it's one of those things where, like, if you get behind to a certain point, you can't come back.

00:46:54.000 That's the whole point of the game.

00:46:55.000 Oh, really?

00:46:56.000 Yeah, the whole point is a snowball is like, I'm so much stronger than you that there's nothing you can do.

00:47:01.000 It gets to the point where I'm just abusing you.

00:47:03.000 Okay.

00:47:04.000 It's just because they've collected the most stuff?

00:47:06.000 Because they've had the most money for the longest.

00:47:08.000 Oh.

00:47:09.000 And they can just keep buying better and better shit than you, and there's nothing you can do about it.

00:47:13.000 But my point is the point is for you to get to a certain point and just end the game.

00:47:17.000 But some people don't know when that is.

00:47:20.000 Here's the quick three sentence overview of what the game is futuristic urban fantasy New York.

00:47:29.000 Your gods, part of an occult ritual, trying to destroy each other.

00:47:33.000 Yeah, so the backstory is an event happened called the Maelstrom that.

00:47:40.000 Yeah, no, this is just the backstory.

00:47:42.000 It opened up a portal that let magic into the world, and all of these people got all these abilities and powers and stuff like that.

00:47:50.000 And there's two opposing gods in some other dimension, and they want you to summon them so they can cross over into this realm.

00:47:59.000 And so the team you're on is whichever god you're working for.

00:48:04.000 Right.

00:48:05.000 And when you win the game, that's supposed to be you completing the ritual.

00:48:08.000 And if you help complete the ritual, you get a wish.

00:48:11.000 And so when you go to each character, it tells you their backstory and what they want, what wish they want when they get there.

00:48:17.000 Oh, okay.

00:48:17.000 Yeah, and some people don't want nothing, they just want to fuck people up.

00:48:20.000 And how long have you been playing this game?

00:48:23.000 It's been probably, I don't know, a year and a half.

00:48:28.000 So this seems super complicated and like it would dedicate a considerable amount of thinking.

00:48:33.000 It's very complex.

00:48:36.000 Because you don't even know what the fuck you're doing for like the first 200 hours.

00:48:43.000 Like, it takes about 200 hours before you're like, okay, I kind of get what's going on.

00:48:48.000 This is the kind of thing that people without kids say.

00:48:50.000 Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:48:52.000 I just, I can't.

00:48:53.000 I'm not, I'm definitely, I'm definitely a 43 year old child.

00:48:56.000 Like, I don't live like an adult.

00:48:58.000 Yeah.

00:48:59.000 I live like almost like a frat boy or something.

00:48:59.000 No.

00:49:03.000 Well, if you could pull it off, those are, when you ask people, some of the happiest times of their life.

00:49:10.000 Oh, yeah, for now.

00:49:12.000 When they were young and free, especially people that don't like what they do.

00:49:16.000 Right?

00:49:16.000 People get a job and they don't like it, and then they have responsibilities and they can't leave their job.

00:49:20.000 Or people that get a wife and don't like her.

00:49:20.000 Shit.

00:49:22.000 That happens a lot.

00:49:23.000 That happens too much.

00:49:24.000 Boy, that happens too much.

00:49:26.000 And a husband you don't like too.

00:49:27.000 Both sides.

00:49:28.000 Oh, yeah.

00:49:29.000 That's probably worse.

00:49:30.000 Well, both of them are bad, but it happens a lot.

00:49:33.000 A lot of people.

00:49:35.000 Are you gaming one of these, Brian?

00:49:36.000 Ooh.

00:49:38.000 That is.

00:49:39.000 Come on, dog.

00:49:40.000 That's insane.

00:49:41.000 That's light.

00:49:42.000 But that seems like how you should be playing a game like this, right?

00:49:44.000 Yeah, in a dark room.

00:49:45.000 Let's talk.

00:49:46.000 Yeah.

00:49:47.000 I mean, but the thing is, I don't think that chair is very comfortable.

00:49:50.000 That chair goes upside down.

00:49:50.000 How dare you?

00:49:52.000 You're laying down, brother.

00:49:53.000 There's versions of it you could customize.

00:49:55.000 Oh, shit.

00:49:56.000 Six grand?

00:49:56.000 How much?

00:49:57.000 So, wait a minute.

00:49:58.000 This is zero gravity.

00:49:59.000 Hit the different images.

00:49:59.000 Watch it.

00:50:01.000 Look at it.

00:50:02.000 It's like that, Brian.

00:50:02.000 Oh, that's crazy.

00:50:04.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:50:05.000 But what else does it do?

00:50:05.000 That's crazy.

00:50:06.000 Does it massage?

00:50:07.000 Sucks your dick.

00:50:08.000 I mean, 10 grand is a lot.

00:50:09.000 Your mouth comes out and just sucks your dick.

00:50:12.000 Yeah, I'll take that.

00:50:13.000 Can you piss in that?

00:50:14.000 Well, it used to be 10 grand.

00:50:15.000 It's unsafe.

00:50:16.000 Do they have the one that's also like the bed?

00:50:17.000 Have you seen the bed version?

00:50:19.000 The what?

00:50:21.000 Well, this one does go backwards, right?

00:50:23.000 Show a version of it where it's completely reclined.

00:50:26.000 That's what I was trying to.

00:50:27.000 You got this shit, don't you, Jamie?

00:50:28.000 No, but I've seen it.

00:50:29.000 He's just wanting.

00:50:30.000 Oh, it's a scorpion.

00:50:32.000 Let me show you something else.

00:50:33.000 Hold on.

00:50:34.000 That's pretty wicked.

00:50:36.000 And so you can adjust that and you can make the screen right in front of your face.

00:50:40.000 I'm about to skip four heart treatments and get that chair.

00:50:40.000 Yeah, bro.

00:50:49.000 I'm about to get that motherfucking cage.

00:50:51.000 Oh, wow.

00:50:52.000 That was pretty cool too.

00:50:53.000 Oh, see that?

00:50:55.000 I actually prefer what we're looking at here.

00:50:57.000 This?

00:50:58.000 Do you?

00:50:59.000 Well.

00:50:59.000 You prefer that to the one that you lie back on?

00:51:01.000 No, because I don't use a controller.

00:51:03.000 The only games I use a controller with is Madden.

00:51:06.000 So you're a mouse and keyboard guy?

00:51:08.000 Yeah.

00:51:08.000 Yeah, almost exclusively.

00:51:10.000 That's what I have.

00:51:11.000 It's like a little futon built on it.

00:51:13.000 I never figured out how to use it.

00:51:14.000 No, fuck that futon.

00:51:15.000 Listen, if you're going to.

00:51:18.000 Who's choosing a futon?

00:51:19.000 If you got the money for a good gaming PC, you better not have no futon.

00:51:23.000 Well, he just went all in on the gaming PC.

00:51:26.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:51:26.000 No choice, no chance of pussy.

00:51:29.000 My shit's gotten kind of crazy recently.

00:51:32.000 Oh, yeah.

00:51:32.000 Yeah?

00:51:33.000 Did I never show you?

00:51:34.000 Check this shit out.

00:51:35.000 What you got?

00:51:36.000 Let me show you.

00:51:36.000 Hold on.

00:51:38.000 Are there any other ones that do it with an even bigger? Screen like that, that kind of a deal.

00:51:42.000 Like, what is the ultimate setup for like somebody like a Bill Gates?

00:51:47.000 There's a new, uh, like the F1 rig we have.

00:51:52.000 Yeah, there's a new screen that's come out that's like a 100 and 60, even I don't know.

00:51:57.000 So, that's my shit right there.

00:52:00.000 Oh, you got a dual monitor set up, curved monitors, two uh, super ultra wide.

00:52:06.000 That's a problem.

00:52:08.000 Yeah, it's a problem.

00:52:09.000 That's a problem.

00:52:11.000 Yeah, it is.

00:52:12.000 I'm gonna send this to me.

00:52:12.000 Um.

00:52:14.000 Send it to me and I'll send it to Jamie.

00:52:16.000 Oh, do you have Jamie's number?

00:52:17.000 Yeah, I know.

00:52:18.000 I got Jamie's number.

00:52:18.000 Send it to Jamie because that image is crazy.

00:52:20.000 We need to show people that image.

00:52:22.000 That's a problem.

00:52:23.000 If I had that, that'd be a real problem.

00:52:26.000 Jamie, I got your number, don't I?

00:52:29.000 I do my best writing, like when I get the most done, on my laptop because I don't ever look at anything else on that laptop.

00:52:39.000 The only time I use the internet at all is to check things to find out if something's real.

00:52:44.000 And even that I don't use anymore because I use perplexity for that now.

00:52:47.000 I just talk into the phone.

00:52:50.000 But if you have that much distraction, like two monitors like that, I would never leave.

00:52:57.000 I would just be playing games.

00:52:59.000 It's too fun.

00:53:01.000 It's too much.

00:53:02.000 It's too much sometimes.

00:53:03.000 It is.

00:53:06.000 They're a fucking problem, man.

00:53:08.000 Games are a problem.

00:53:09.000 They're so good.

00:53:11.000 You know what it is, man?

00:53:12.000 It's a dopamine drip.

00:53:14.000 Look at that setup.

00:53:14.000 Look at that.

00:53:16.000 Bro.

00:53:17.000 What's that thing on the right?

00:53:19.000 That is for controlling the sound.

00:53:24.000 So basically, like, so say I'm in the chat, I'm in the Discord chat, and I got a YouTube video plan and I'm in the middle of a game, right?

00:53:36.000 Right.

00:53:41.000 Then I can reach over and turn down the volume of the game so I can hear somebody more clearly or turn up the music without having to open up anything on my phone.

00:53:48.000 That's crazy.

00:53:49.000 You are an addict.

00:53:51.000 Yeah.

00:53:52.000 Jamie, you don't have that, do you?

00:53:54.000 I was going to show you mine.

00:53:55.000 He's got.

00:53:56.000 I've got way more than that.

00:53:58.000 Oh, yeah.

00:53:59.000 Jamie's out of control.

00:53:59.000 No, yeah.

00:54:01.000 I have a soundboard connected into mine so I can fuck with people.

00:54:06.000 Hey, hey, Jamie.

00:54:08.000 Can you blur that top thing?

00:54:10.000 Because that's got people's names.

00:54:11.000 Yeah, but I can record live sound when someone's chatting and I can record their voice and play it back instantly.

00:54:20.000 This is me not streaming.

00:54:21.000 I'm going to start streaming this summer.

00:54:23.000 So, I'm gonna have to add a couple of things.

00:54:25.000 So, he's gonna start playing video games and streaming it?

00:54:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:54:28.000 He can make a lot of money doing it.

00:54:29.000 It's easy money, too.

00:54:30.000 It's crazy because you're already gonna play games.

00:54:32.000 And I know some people just like they don't go on the road because they make so much money doing this.

00:54:36.000 Wow.

00:54:36.000 But the problem is, how long is that gonna last?

00:54:39.000 Going on the road is forever.

00:54:41.000 Oh, yeah, but you can always do that.

00:54:42.000 Yeah, but you might not have an audience anymore.

00:54:44.000 You have that audience.

00:54:45.000 Oh, that's true.

00:54:46.000 Yeah.

00:54:46.000 But they'll be still stuck on those videos.

00:54:49.000 You ever had T Payne on here?

00:54:50.000 No.

00:54:51.000 Yeah, T Payne, he's one of the like, he don't.

00:54:53.000 He's like, yo, you gotta offer me a lot of money.

00:54:55.000 Because he still goes on the road, but it's like, you gotta pay him.

00:54:58.000 Because he makes some.

00:54:58.000 He's like, why would I leave?

00:55:00.000 Why would I take less money to leave my house?

00:55:02.000 So he just streams?

00:55:03.000 He streams, yeah.

00:55:04.000 His setup he's got is fucking crazy.

00:55:07.000 It's insane.

00:55:07.000 Yeah?

00:55:08.000 He's like, we have one F1 setup.

00:55:10.000 I think he bought six.

00:55:12.000 He's got his whole studio in one room.

00:55:14.000 He's got the racing room over here.

00:55:16.000 He's got, I think, probably four different rooms for different things.

00:55:21.000 And he'll game, or he'll have own guests, or he'll just make a song live in front of you.

00:55:26.000 So it's just his normal live setup.

00:55:30.000 He's got F1 setups.

00:55:33.000 He's got multiple screens around there.

00:55:35.000 So he has a whole room dedicated.

00:55:35.000 Oh, that's crazy.

00:55:37.000 Oh, yeah.

00:55:38.000 Oh my God.

00:55:39.000 It's all wired together too.

00:55:41.000 So when he's streaming, how is he making money?

00:55:44.000 Sponsors.

00:55:46.000 I think he's definitely a Twitch partner of some kind.

00:55:49.000 So you get sponsors and like, how much do you think he's making?

00:55:49.000 Okay.

00:55:54.000 Fuck.

00:55:55.000 I couldn't, I don't even.

00:55:56.000 I mean, if I had to speculate.

00:55:57.000 Yeah, speculate.

00:55:58.000 I would say he's probably making, pulling in at least a quarter million a month or something like that.

00:56:06.000 Probably more than that.

00:56:07.000 Just playing video games.

00:56:08.000 Just streaming.

00:56:09.000 He doesn't even have to play video games.

00:56:10.000 Sometimes he's just talking.

00:56:11.000 That's crazy.

00:56:12.000 Well, there's a lot of that, right?

00:56:14.000 A lot of streamers.

00:56:15.000 Yeah, there's.

00:56:15.000 Like a lot of political streamers that just talk.

00:56:18.000 There's different people that do different things.

00:56:19.000 There's.

00:56:20.000 They call them IRL streamers.

00:56:22.000 There's nuisance streamers.

00:56:24.000 Yeah, they just walk around.

00:56:24.000 Nuisance?

00:56:25.000 Fuck with people?

00:56:26.000 Fuck with people, yeah.

00:56:27.000 What's this?

00:56:27.000 Two strip simulators, two circuit racing simulators, and one flight simulator down there in the end.

00:56:33.000 So this is the VR room.

00:56:35.000 The computer I play on is right here.

00:56:35.000 Wow.

00:56:37.000 Step down here.

00:56:38.000 Whoa, it's VR.

00:56:39.000 We got sensors in the roof.

00:56:41.000 This is the workshop.

00:56:42.000 It was just a utility room, but I was like, why not put 3D printers in there?

00:56:46.000 This is 3D printers, as you can see.

00:56:48.000 I took a lot of inspiration from Tron.

00:56:52.000 That's amazing.

00:56:54.000 And he's married, though.

00:56:56.000 Yeah, but he's making money.

00:56:57.000 How's his wife going to complain?

00:57:00.000 You want to go shopping?

00:57:01.000 Listen, lady, this is how we make the money for you to go shopping.

00:57:04.000 You're right.

00:57:05.000 You know, I mean, she can't complain if that's what you actually earn money at.

00:57:09.000 You know, my wife used to complain about the podcast before it started making money.

00:57:12.000 Really?

00:57:13.000 Well, she was like, you don't have to do that.

00:57:14.000 I was like, I do.

00:57:14.000 I have to do it.

00:57:15.000 I told people I'd be doing it on Monday at X amount of whatever time it was.

00:57:21.000 But that's just always.

00:57:23.000 How long until you were like, I can fucking.

00:57:25.000 This is making money.

00:57:26.000 Oh, it took years.

00:57:28.000 I didn't even try.

00:57:29.000 I never tried to make any money with it.

00:57:30.000 I always did it for free.

00:57:32.000 I did it for fun.

00:57:33.000 For how many years?

00:57:34.000 I didn't make money for years.

00:57:36.000 Oh, wow.

00:57:37.000 Zero money for years.

00:57:39.000 I never even thought of it making money.

00:57:41.000 It was just for fun.

00:57:42.000 I would just have everybody come over.

00:57:44.000 Like Segura would come over.

00:57:45.000 Eddie Bravo would come over.

00:57:46.000 Joey would come over.

00:57:47.000 We would just talk shit and just have laughs.

00:57:47.000 Duncan.

00:57:50.000 It was just for fun.

00:57:51.000 We enjoyed the shit out of it.

00:57:53.000 We had a vaporizer, this giant bag.

00:57:56.000 The volcano?

00:57:57.000 Yeah, the volcano.

00:57:58.000 Oh my God, the thing was horrendous.

00:58:00.000 I remember when those things first came out.

00:58:02.000 They fucked a lot of people's world up.

00:58:03.000 They fucked a lot of people.

00:58:04.000 Fucked our world up.

00:58:04.000 There's a lot of podcasts in the early days that are unlistenable or watchable because we're just obliterated.

00:58:09.000 And I thought it could never get past that.

00:58:12.000 And now they got.

00:58:13.000 You know, then people came up with the dabs.

00:58:15.000 Bro, Jelly Roll has this machine.

00:58:18.000 It looks like a robot.

00:58:19.000 It looks like a little Pokemon robot.

00:58:21.000 Yeah, wait a minute.

00:58:22.000 Is it that?

00:58:23.000 Because Frank Castillo is one of those.

00:58:25.000 He's like sponsored by those people.

00:58:26.000 That's crazy.

00:58:27.000 Those things are crazy.

00:58:27.000 What is it called?

00:58:28.000 Peak.

00:58:28.000 The Peak People.

00:58:29.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:58:30.000 I don't know if it's a Peak.

00:58:31.000 It looks like a device.

00:58:32.000 It scared me just looking at it.

00:58:33.000 Can you look up the Peak Pro?

00:58:34.000 It's big like this French press.

00:58:37.000 Yeah, bro.

00:58:38.000 And listen, and every time I see Frank, they've come out with a new one.

00:58:41.000 They have one that's like a Sherlock Holmes pipe.

00:58:43.000 It's all electronic and it's all for dabs.

00:58:46.000 But every time he visits me, he's like, hey, bro, check this shit out.

00:58:48.000 People like him with his reason why weed still isn't legal.

00:58:52.000 Well, actually, I just read something today that Trump is making.

00:58:55.000 It's schedule three now.

00:58:57.000 Oh, it's done.

00:58:57.000 Yeah.

00:58:58.000 It's done.

00:58:59.000 Weed.

00:58:59.000 Yeah, weed is schedule three.

00:59:01.000 So, schedule three, first of all, it should be right with alcohol.

00:59:04.000 If you're 21, leave me the fuck alone.

00:59:08.000 What schedule is alcohol?

00:59:10.000 Alcohol is not scheduled.

00:59:11.000 It's not a prohibitive substance.

00:59:12.000 I don't think alcohol is scheduled like that.

00:59:14.000 Alcohol for 21 and older is totally legal.

00:59:17.000 So, Schedule One, which is where weed was, which is so crazy, is that it has no medicinal benefit, harm, addiction.

00:59:26.000 Now, I won't argue addiction because I don't think I totally understand it the way other people understand it.

00:59:35.000 It's highly genetic.

00:59:37.000 I think addiction is very genetic because people keep telling me that cigarettes are addictive and that nicotine is addictive.

00:59:43.000 I recently got off of nicotine patches and I started taking ultra patches.

00:59:49.000 Pouches, rather.

00:59:49.000 Do you know what these are?

00:59:51.000 It's like nootropics, it's like vitamins, like brain vitamins.

00:59:54.000 Is there nicotine in there?

00:59:55.000 No, no, no.

00:59:55.000 No nicotine.

00:59:57.000 And when I started doing it, I was like, okay, I wonder if I'm going to.

01:00:01.000 You want to try one?

01:00:02.000 Here.

01:00:04.000 That one's empty.

01:00:06.000 I just bought these over Amazon.

01:00:07.000 But I was like, I've done it before when I went on vacation.

01:00:12.000 Like, I didn't have them at all, and I didn't have any withdrawals.

01:00:15.000 But then I talked to McCann, and McCann said that when he got off of them, it was like two weeks where he's like fucking super tense and yelling at people.

01:00:22.000 No, no, no.

01:00:23.000 Oh, nicotine.

01:00:24.000 Nicotine.

01:00:24.000 Pouches or cigarettes.

01:00:26.000 He got off of all of it.

01:00:28.000 And then I hear, but so my point is, I think it's a biological thing.

01:00:33.000 I don't think I have the biological thing.

01:00:36.000 I get addicted to stuff.

01:00:38.000 I get addicted to doing things.

01:00:40.000 I used to be addicted to video games.

01:00:43.000 I would definitely get addicted again if I started playing.

01:00:45.000 I get addicted to pool.

01:00:47.000 I get addicted to martial arts.

01:00:48.000 I get addicted to doing stuff.

01:00:50.000 I get addicted to archery.

01:00:52.000 But I don't think I get addicted.

01:00:54.000 I probably would if it was like Oxies or something like that.

01:00:57.000 I think that's just too strong.

01:00:58.000 That would just get me.

01:00:58.000 I think I'm too much of a control freak to get addicted to any kind of hard.

01:01:02.000 Well, you quit cigarettes like that.

01:01:04.000 Yeah, but you know why it was easy?

01:01:06.000 It's because I had a heart attack.

01:01:07.000 Yeah, but the heart attack did it for you.

01:01:09.000 It did.

01:01:10.000 And I already felt like shit, so I didn't feel.

01:01:12.000 Go, I didn't.

01:01:13.000 The withdrawals were nothing.

01:01:14.000 I'm going to send you something, Jamie.

01:01:16.000 This is kind of crazy, but I sent this to Tom Cigarro.

01:01:19.000 I said, It's time to start smoking again.

01:01:21.000 Because there's this guy that's making this argument that there's a benefit to smoking as long as you do it with the proper diet, that there's some sort of an actual benefit to cigarette smoking.

01:01:33.000 Because one of the things about these blue zones where people like live forever, a lot of these people that are like living that are really old, they smoke cigarettes.

01:01:41.000 Yeah.

01:01:42.000 That's what tripped me the fuck out.

01:01:43.000 Like, you know, every time they go, This is the oldest person alive.

01:01:46.000 They're 109 right now.

01:01:47.000 And then they ask them, they go, what's your secret, nigga?

01:01:47.000 They smoke.

01:01:49.000 Smoke.

01:01:50.000 I drink fire water.

01:01:53.000 So listen to this smoking is good for them.

01:01:56.000 Top heart surgeons claim is breaking the internet.

01:01:59.000 Clip is exploding after cardiothoracic surgeon Dr. Stephen Gundry made a claim that's turning everything people thought they knew about smoking upside down.

01:02:07.000 His argument is smoking, specifically nicotine, can have real benefits when paired with the right lifestyle.

01:02:13.000 At one point, he even says about a patient.

01:02:16.000 Probably it's because he smoked that he's doing so well.

01:02:19.000 Points to long living populations where heavy smoking is common.

01:02:22.000 Claims that in part of Sardinia, 95% of men smoke and live longer than the women.

01:02:27.000 Says nicotine acts as a powerful mitochondrial uncoupler.

01:02:32.000 Argues that the damage blamed on smoking can be offset by diet and suggests that we've been looking at it completely backwards.

01:02:39.000 According to him, the real question isn't why smoking harms people, it's why some smokers live longer and what we're missing.

01:02:47.000 So, there's a video in here.

01:02:49.000 Listen to him talk about it because it's eight minutes long.

01:02:51.000 Yeah, but just play a little bit of it because it's kind of interesting.

01:02:56.000 Credit to Dr. Mike on YouTube.

01:03:00.000 Been smoking for 45 years and they're living a healthy life, and they say it's because I smoke.

01:03:05.000 And obviously, we laugh about it because we all agree that it's not true.

01:03:08.000 So, why did this one case move you so?

01:03:10.000 Actually, let me stop you right there.

01:03:13.000 Probably it's because he smoked that he's doing so well.

01:03:16.000 Okay.

01:03:17.000 We need to back up.

01:03:18.000 How do we get there?

01:03:20.000 Well, I have a whole chapter in Gut Check looking at the healthiest, longest living people.

01:03:26.000 And one of the unique features of most of the blue zones is that, particularly the men, are heavy smokers.

01:03:33.000 And the smoking, actually, the nicotine in cigarettes is one of the best mitochondrial uncouplers that's ever been discovered.

01:03:43.000 And we've looked at this through the wrong lens.

01:03:46.000 We said, wow, what other healthy lifestyle things are these guys doing that's preventing smoking from harming them?

01:03:53.000 In fact, we should have looked at it the other way.

01:03:55.000 What is it about these people who are smokers that allows them to live to 105, 110 years old?

01:04:03.000 And when you do that, then you say, okay, smoking was good for them.

01:04:07.000 Why don't we see the oxidative stress that smoking we all know occurs?

01:04:13.000 Why don't we see the cancers in these people?

01:04:15.000 And it's because the rest of their diet facilitates the absorption of the oxidative stress in these guys.

01:04:22.000 So your state is that if you smoke but eat in this specific way, you can negate the effects of smoking, the negative effects of smoking.

01:04:31.000 Yeah, what's fascinating as a heart surgeon, way back in the good old days, most of our patients were smokers.

01:04:38.000 And they had specific proximal lesions in their coronary arteries.

01:04:43.000 The rest of their blood vessels were absolutely gorgeous.

01:04:48.000 And they were skinny for the most part.

01:04:51.000 How did you gauge that?

01:04:52.000 What do you mean?

01:04:53.000 We operate on.

01:04:54.000 But you operate on what other vessels that you saw?

01:04:57.000 Like you would do peripheral arterial disease screenings on those patients.

01:05:01.000 And you would find.

01:05:02.000 I used to operate on.

01:05:04.000 Because one of the number one risk factors for peripheral arterial disease is smoking.

01:05:08.000 Correct, because the smoking, the oxidative stress, isn't stopped by our current diet.

01:05:17.000 Let me give you an example.

01:05:18.000 Okay.

01:05:21.000 We're one of the few animals that don't make vitamin C.

01:05:24.000 And vitamin C, and I've written about this.

01:05:28.000 So.

01:05:28.000 Sure, keep going here.

01:05:30.000 We get it.

01:05:31.000 I mean, he's.

01:05:31.000 I understand what he's saying.

01:05:33.000 I'm going to send people to Dr. Mike's YouTube channel for the rest of it, but.

01:05:37.000 Dr. Mike wasn't having it.

01:05:38.000 Well, he didn't know.

01:05:39.000 I mean, this guy's the expert, and this guy lays it.

01:05:42.000 And Dr. Mike's open minded.

01:05:43.000 He's probably, what he's saying is making sense.

01:05:46.000 It made sense to me.

01:05:47.000 It's the poor diet.

01:05:49.000 That's why I was hoping that video would give me hope, but I'm like, bro, if I could change my diet, I wouldn't have had the heart attack.

01:05:58.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:05:59.000 It's like, oh, so I'm going to get this perfect diet so I can smoke.

01:06:01.000 Nah.

01:06:03.000 I don't think it's a perfect diet.

01:06:04.000 I think you just got to move to Italy.

01:06:06.000 Bro, whenever I go there on vacation, I'm like, why am I trying so hard?

01:06:10.000 What am I doing?

01:06:11.000 How come I'm not just for chilling?

01:06:13.000 Well, you know, that's the thing about Italy they have a culture of chilling.

01:06:17.000 Yeah.

01:06:18.000 Like their culture, I forget what they call it, but is it siesta?

01:06:22.000 No, that's Mexicans.

01:06:24.000 They call it like that nap they take during the middle of the day?

01:06:26.000 Yeah, that's only, no, no, no.

01:06:27.000 It's a Spanish thing, too.

01:06:29.000 Oh, okay.

01:06:30.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:31.000 But they, I didn't know they did it in Mexico.

01:06:32.000 Well, obviously it's a Spanish word, right?

01:06:34.000 Yeah, I didn't know they did it in Mexico, but the Spanish.

01:06:36.000 Yeah, it's a Mexican thing.

01:06:37.000 The Spanish are like, nah, middle of the afternoon, everybody napping.

01:06:40.000 Yeah, my friend went to the Ferrari factory in Italy.

01:06:43.000 He said, dude, it's hilarious.

01:06:45.000 He goes, they barely work.

01:06:46.000 He goes, there's a reason why it takes so long to get a Ferrari.

01:06:49.000 He goes, these motherfuckers are just chilling.

01:06:52.000 He goes, they take these big long breaks.

01:06:53.000 Oh, it was Lamborghini.

01:06:55.000 Yeah, he said they take these big long breaks for lunch.

01:06:58.000 They eat pasta and they drink wine and they lay down.

01:07:02.000 They take a couple hours for lunch and they work a few more hours and then they go home.

01:07:07.000 They got to figure it out.

01:07:07.000 Well, I think we work too much, you know, and this is coming from someone who works too much, but I work too much at things I love.

01:07:16.000 It's a different thing, I think, than most people.

01:07:19.000 Most people are working too much at something that's just making them money and they're probably stressed out all the time and don't enjoy it.

01:07:24.000 But I think if you are.

01:07:26.000 Working less and just having more enjoyment in life, what are we here for?

01:07:32.000 See, that's why I'm that's I think subconsciously that's why I've been avoiding streaming.

01:07:36.000 I've been talking about it for years because I'm like, if I start making money, right, and then it becomes a job, bro, I'm gonna be like that.

01:07:43.000 You know, that fat kid in the chair in Wally, you ever see that movie?

01:07:45.000 Yeah, that I'm gonna transform into that.

01:07:49.000 Just uber eats, yeah, if I just start making uber eats and just millions of dollars just eating and laying there, everybody logging to the discord and no exercise at all.

01:07:58.000 Oh, yeah.

01:07:59.000 Well, the more you stream, the more you make, right?

01:08:01.000 So there's people that stream more than eight hours a day, don't they?

01:08:04.000 I mean, theoretically, yeah.

01:08:06.000 But some people stream a lot and they don't make shit.

01:08:08.000 Yeah, but that's also podcasting.

01:08:10.000 There's a lot of people that are doing podcasts that aren't making any money.

01:08:13.000 Yeah, so, yeah.

01:08:15.000 But you got to stream to make money.

01:08:16.000 You got to be on.

01:08:17.000 Yeah, but it's a very specific type of audience, too, though.

01:08:20.000 It's people that are watching streams.

01:08:22.000 Very different audience than who's watching podcasts, I would imagine.

01:08:27.000 Damn, that's hard to say.

01:08:28.000 Yeah.

01:08:29.000 It's hard to say, yeah.

01:08:30.000 Because I think, I don't know if those, there's probably a lot of overlap in those.

01:08:34.000 Audiences.

01:08:35.000 So, I don't, what we were talking about before with the smoking, I don't think smoking is good for your lungs.

01:08:40.000 I think it's bad for your lungs because everybody I know that quit smoking, they say their cardio gets better.

01:08:44.000 This stuff, that interview you shared came out two years ago.

01:08:49.000 Oh, did it?

01:08:50.000 And there was some controversy around it.

01:08:52.000 Well, clearly.

01:08:53.000 What is a blue zone?

01:08:55.000 It's places where people live longer.

01:08:55.000 Well, that doctor said.

01:08:57.000 Oh, okay.

01:08:59.000 Okay, so here it says Key details regarding Dr. Gundry's statements.

01:09:02.000 Controversial claims.

01:09:03.000 In a conversation with Dr. Mike, Gundry suggested.

01:09:06.000 Smoking could be linked to longer life, observing that some long lived individuals in blue zone smoke.

01:09:11.000 Mechanism theory Gundry argues that nicotine functions as a mitochondrial uncoupler and that a high polyphenol diet may mitigate the negative effects of cigarette smoke.

01:09:21.000 Criticism experts strongly disagree, noting that smoking is a leading cause of premature death and that any potential benefits are far outweighed by risks.

01:09:29.000 Right, but they're not taking into consideration what he said about food.

01:09:34.000 Despite the headlines, Gundry stated he does not smoke and does not encourage others to do so.

01:09:38.000 So he's just a scientist.

01:09:40.000 Relaying research.

01:09:41.000 Yeah, so what are the critics strongly disagreeing with?

01:09:43.000 He said they're not making any sense because they're disagreeing, but they're not addressing what he's saying in terms of the high polyphenol diet mitigating the negative effects of smoking.

01:09:53.000 Yeah, I mean, that's all he said was what he observed.

01:09:55.000 This is what I think in my years of trying and using nicotine.

01:10:00.000 I think there's something to nicotine.

01:10:02.000 The reason why I am backing off of it is it fucks up my pool game.

01:10:07.000 Yeah.

01:10:07.000 Really?

01:10:08.000 Nicotine gives you a lot of energy.

01:10:10.000 And I think like these Alps, these are like six milligrams, and then these Lucy's.

01:10:15.000 I have Lucy's that are 12, but you put them in your mouth, it's like you're sucking on a battery.

01:10:19.000 It's like, it's so strong.

01:10:21.000 It's ridiculous.

01:10:23.000 They make you jittery, and jittery is not good for pool.

01:10:26.000 Pool is a chill game.

01:10:28.000 Pool is like you're concentrating, but you want to be completely calm when you're stroking the ball.

01:10:33.000 Like your hand, you're barely holding on to that cue.

01:10:35.000 I hold on to the cue like I'm holding a baby bird.

01:10:38.000 You know, it's very calm.

01:10:39.000 You don't want to be like, ah.

01:10:40.000 You know, so a lot of people stop drinking coffee because they play pool.

01:10:44.000 Word?

01:10:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:45.000 But nicotine in particular, which is interesting because I know a lot of people who smoke cigarettes who play really well.

01:10:53.000 Maybe it's a different feeling in terms of how it affects your body than.

01:10:58.000 See, that's a good question.

01:11:00.000 How much nicotine is in a cigarette versus one of these Alp pouches?

01:11:06.000 These Alp pouches is Tucker Carlson's company.

01:11:09.000 It probably also has to do with your level of addiction.

01:11:12.000 Some people are.

01:11:13.000 Fully, yeah.

01:11:14.000 Some people smoke all day.

01:11:15.000 Yeah, they need cigarettes just to be back to zero.

01:11:17.000 John Mellencamp, he was in here.

01:11:18.000 That dude just.

01:11:19.000 That was one of the big things.

01:11:21.000 Can I smoke during the podcast?

01:11:22.000 I'm like, absolutely.

01:11:23.000 No worries.

01:11:24.000 I go, we got a fan.

01:11:25.000 We smoke cigars all the time.

01:11:26.000 So he just chain smoked the entire podcast.

01:11:29.000 And he said, Find what you love and let it kill you.

01:11:32.000 That's what he said about cigarette smoking.

01:11:33.000 Oh, yeah, that's a Chowsky.

01:11:35.000 Who's that quote from?

01:11:37.000 I don't know.

01:11:38.000 Typical nicotine amounts.

01:11:39.000 Okay.

01:11:40.000 Standard factory made cigarette usually contains about 10 to 14 milligrams of nicotine in tobacco, which an average smoker absorbs around 1 to 2 milligrams when smoking it.

01:11:50.000 Nicotine pouches are sold in strengths that commonly range from 2 milligrams up to 12.

01:11:55.000 Oh, my God.

01:11:56.000 Or more of nicotine per pouch, CDC notes that they can contain high levels of nicotine.

01:12:02.000 Pouches with 6 milligrams nicotine or less were most common, but higher strength 8 milligram pouches have been growing quickly.

01:12:11.000 Yeah, because people are getting addicted.

01:12:13.000 Cigarettes deliver nicotine to the brain very fast, within 10 to 20 seconds after inhalation, which makes them highly reinforcing and strongly addictive.

01:12:22.000 Pouches release nicotine through the lining of the mouth, so the rise in blood nicotine is slower and more prolonged compared with a cigarette hit.

01:12:30.000 Though total absorbed dose over 20 to 60 minutes can be similar depending upon strength or how long the pouch is used.

01:12:37.000 But the thing about like pouches is people just keep popping them.

01:12:39.000 Like Shane, that dude just pops them every 10 minutes.

01:12:42.000 He's popping 6 milligrams like every 10 minutes.

01:12:45.000 Combustible cigarettes clearly more harmful overall because smoke contains more than 7,000 chemicals, many toxic and carcinogenic, whereas pouches avoid combustion but still expose you to an addictive drug with cardiovascular effects.

01:12:59.000 That's why I'm convinced.

01:13:01.000 That people that do all the other forms of nicotine are way more addicted than smokers are.

01:13:05.000 Well, I'll tell you one thing that I felt was the most addictive version of it that I tried was vaping.

01:13:12.000 Those like Escobar things, those are weird.

01:13:15.000 Here's another weird thing about those vaping ones the only good hit is the first hit, maybe the second.

01:13:23.000 Have you seen how vapers act when they can't find their vape?

01:13:26.000 Oh, they freak out.

01:13:28.000 They get sketchy.

01:13:28.000 It is.

01:13:29.000 It's crazy.

01:13:31.000 Yeah.

01:13:31.000 They get crazy.

01:13:33.000 I was in D.C. last year.

01:13:36.000 And I popped in on this comedy spot.

01:13:42.000 And I go to the bathroom, and there's a vape sitting on the sink.

01:13:46.000 Like somebody put a vape there to wash their hands or something.

01:13:49.000 And I go out to the bar, and I remember all the comics.

01:13:53.000 I remember I bought the comics.

01:13:55.000 Like the comics are at the bar waiting to go up, and I bought a round for the comics.

01:13:59.000 And one of them was like, oh, thanks, man.

01:14:01.000 Got up, went to the bathroom, came back, sat next to his friend, and was like, oh, bro, I found this vape in there.

01:14:05.000 And they both hit this vape.

01:14:07.000 So they went.

01:14:08.000 He took a vape out the bath that somebody else was just sucking on.

01:14:11.000 Some guy who could have been eating ass just 20 minutes ago.

01:14:13.000 Right.

01:14:14.000 Also, it was on the sink in the bath in the men's room at a comedy club.

01:14:18.000 That's crazy.

01:14:19.000 Hey, I found it.

01:14:20.000 Let's take hits off of it.

01:14:21.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

01:14:23.000 It would be tough if that was my vape and I set it on the counter and be like, oh, shit.

01:14:26.000 Because that probably would happen.

01:14:28.000 Somebody set it there out of reflex and was like, I don't want that shit.

01:14:30.000 It's right here with all this filthy.

01:14:33.000 Or maybe they're like, I got to leave this thing there.

01:14:33.000 Maybe.

01:14:35.000 All this men's room sink water?

01:14:38.000 Nah, you could keep that.

01:14:41.000 You could keep dipping.

01:14:43.000 These guys are just sucking on it at the bar.

01:14:45.000 But I guess if you dip it in whiskey, it'd be alright.

01:14:48.000 Just dip it in your glass before you take your hit.

01:14:50.000 You could just wait till you get to your vape.

01:14:52.000 Because it's not like you're going to get one.

01:14:54.000 The first hit is the only one that's good.

01:14:57.000 The first hit is like euphoric.

01:14:59.000 The first hit of an Escobar, you're like this, like, oh, yeah.

01:15:04.000 Everything's amazing.

01:15:05.000 But you don't get that with a second hit.

01:15:07.000 It doesn't like maintain.

01:15:09.000 After a while, you're just taking hits and you just feel nervous.

01:15:11.000 Like, this is terrible.

01:15:12.000 This doesn't feel good.

01:15:14.000 The first hit's wonderful.

01:15:14.000 But it's the first hit.

01:15:16.000 You know how many vapers I've had to curse out because they unplug my phone?

01:15:20.000 They're plugging their stupid fucking vapes.

01:15:22.000 They're like, yo, what?

01:15:23.000 Yo, you was at 30%.

01:15:24.000 Like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

01:15:27.000 I need it all day.

01:15:28.000 Don't unplug my shit.

01:15:28.000 Right.

01:15:29.000 Junkies.

01:15:30.000 They really are.

01:15:31.000 Oh, they're junkies.

01:15:31.000 Junkies.

01:15:32.000 I see people hit them all the time.

01:15:34.000 And they hit them like a fiend.

01:15:36.000 And you know, the worst thing is the people that they try to start vaping to replace smoking.

01:15:45.000 They just end up doing both.

01:15:46.000 Well, I think the vaping is more addictive than smoking.

01:15:49.000 Because you can, you know why?

01:15:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:15:50.000 It's because one, like you said, I think you're getting delivered more nicotine than a smoker will get.

01:15:56.000 Even though, look, Smoking has other bad shit that you're putting in you, you know.

01:16:02.000 But in terms of addiction, is what I'm saying.

01:16:05.000 I'm not saying vaping is worse for you, but you're getting more nicotine and you can vape in places you can't smoke.

01:16:12.000 And on top of that, you're getting all these weird oils and chemicals and stuff in there that aren't good for you.

01:16:18.000 But you can vape anytime, right?

01:16:20.000 You can vape.

01:16:21.000 But you know, people are getting these new diseases like popcorn lung.

01:16:24.000 Have you heard of that?

01:16:25.000 I heard of that, but I ain't heard of nobody that got it.

01:16:27.000 I've heard like.

01:16:28.000 You know, it's one of those like, what do you call them?

01:16:31.000 Urban myths or urban myths?

01:16:33.000 There was a kid that I knew back in California.

01:16:35.000 He was one of the people in our neighborhood's child.

01:16:40.000 And he was 19.

01:16:42.000 And he was in college and he was vaping like crazy.

01:16:44.000 He was vaping all day long.

01:16:46.000 And he got pneumonia and wound up dying.

01:16:49.000 And they connected it to the vape.

01:16:50.000 Like he had destroyed his lungs.

01:16:51.000 Yeah.

01:16:52.000 Kids are damaging their lungs.

01:16:53.000 But you know, I think that started back when, you remember when some people have like the adjustable ones where like, Oh, the big ones.

01:17:00.000 Yeah, they're crazy ones.

01:17:01.000 Because now the popular ones are like the disposable ones.

01:17:03.000 Adam Curry has one of them big jams.

01:17:05.000 Yeah, one of them big rigs.

01:17:07.000 I think people were going crazy back then.

01:17:09.000 Like in the beginning of it, when nobody knew a lot.

01:17:12.000 The real vapors, man, they still go crazy.

01:17:14.000 But they're doing it themselves.

01:17:16.000 They think it's healthier.

01:17:17.000 They're getting like their own nicotine drops.

01:17:19.000 They're putting it in the thing and they're putting their own oil.

01:17:22.000 They're using like MCT oil because it's healthy.

01:17:24.000 This organic poison.

01:17:26.000 Yeah.

01:17:26.000 Whereas, if you're getting it from a factory in China, Or Vietnam.

01:17:30.000 Have you ever seen that one?

01:17:31.000 There's one video of a dude who has to test every vape when it comes out of the factory.

01:17:35.000 With his mouth?

01:17:36.000 With his mouth.

01:17:38.000 The ones you get have already been sucked on.

01:17:40.000 So this dude is just sucked in Vietnam.

01:17:41.000 I don't know where he is.

01:17:43.000 He might be in Laos.

01:17:44.000 He's just sucking.

01:17:46.000 Wherever this vape factory is, this dude's just sucking on this vape over and over and over again.

01:17:50.000 Everybody's vape, he sucks on once to make sure it's good before he sends it out.

01:17:55.000 Or we're doomed.

01:17:56.000 So this guy's got.

01:17:57.000 What is his dose of caffeine in a day?

01:18:00.000 It must be off the charts.

01:18:02.000 Yeah, so that's the other thing.

01:18:03.000 I think vapors are more addictive because they get more nicotine.

01:18:06.000 They just get to do it.

01:18:07.000 They just do it all the time.

01:18:07.000 Yes, you could definitely do it.

01:18:09.000 But I'm telling you, it's like you don't get the good feeling.

01:18:13.000 Like it's weird.

01:18:14.000 It's weird.

01:18:15.000 Like a cigar, like the relaxation, the good nicotine feeling of a cigar, you get that like every time you take a hit out of a cigar.

01:18:23.000 That's not the case with a vape, at least not for me.

01:18:26.000 Look at this dude.

01:18:27.000 He's sucking on every one of these.

01:18:28.000 Check them out.

01:18:29.000 Look.

01:18:30.000 That's nuts.

01:18:31.000 They got to make sure they're good.

01:18:34.000 Like, how vaped out is this cat?

01:18:38.000 That's probably how he gets paid in just vapes, just smoke.

01:18:44.000 I mean, how many fucking thousands of vapes is this kid sucking on in a day?

01:18:48.000 How many do you test in a day?

01:18:49.000 He says around 7,000 to 8,000 tests per day.

01:18:55.000 Jesus Christ.

01:18:56.000 Does that dude sleep at all?

01:18:59.000 He probably dreams in like horrible black and white, like lightning bolts.

01:19:04.000 He also smokes after work.

01:19:06.000 Oh my God.

01:19:08.000 Someone should see how long that guy lives.

01:19:10.000 Bro, that boy's artery is done.

01:19:12.000 Yeah, he's not in the blue zone.

01:19:13.000 Not at all, bro.

01:19:14.000 I was just looking at popcorn lung.

01:19:18.000 Yeah.

01:19:20.000 It's older.

01:19:21.000 It's developed according to this.

01:19:23.000 It came around 2000 when people at an actual popcorn factory were exposed to a chemical that was causing what called bronchitis obliterans.

01:19:34.000 Bro, look at this.

01:19:35.000 It's first recognized from clusters of workers at a microwave popcorn factory exposed to the butter flavoring chemical diacetyl.

01:19:44.000 Wow, I thought it made your lungs look like popcorn.

01:19:47.000 This is saying there's like it's very, it's super rare for outside of that, actually, though.

01:19:53.000 Cancer Researchers UK states that there have been no confirmed cases of.

01:19:56.000 Popcorn lungs, specifically caused by e cigarettes, although some older e liquids contain diacetyl before regulations tightened.

01:20:04.000 Do you think that's like big tobacco trying to scare people away from vapes?

01:20:08.000 No, no, they no, I think they invested in that shit.

01:20:10.000 Yeah, but if they don't, like what if it's like some companies maybe don't and they're worried that these cheap vapes?

01:20:17.000 Well, there's only three companies to big tobacco is really big tobacco, so it's RJ Reynolds.

01:20:23.000 What are the other ones?

01:20:25.000 Philip Morris, or is it Philip Morris?

01:20:27.000 And then there's an overseas one.

01:20:29.000 Maybe there's four companies.

01:20:30.000 Who's making the American spirits?

01:20:33.000 It's the same people.

01:20:34.000 Is it the same people?

01:20:36.000 There's only three or four big tobacco companies.

01:20:38.000 This lady, Suzanne Humphreys, who's a doctor, she was making the argument that those cigarettes are probably not even that bad for you.

01:20:45.000 And they see the writing on the wall.

01:20:47.000 They own all the patch companies?

01:20:49.000 Of course.

01:20:50.000 Why wouldn't they?

01:20:51.000 Because the writing's on the wall.

01:20:53.000 They were talking about it in Canada, and now I think they're trying to do it in the UK, where basically people of a certain age will never be able to buy cigarettes.

01:21:01.000 Yeah, I think they're doing that in Canada right now.

01:21:04.000 Or they're definitely doing that in the UK.

01:21:06.000 That's right.

01:21:08.000 No, American spirit cigarettes are not safer than other cigarettes.

01:21:10.000 Despite marketing that highlights natural and addictive free tobacco, studies show they contain similar levels of toxic, cancer causing chemicals as other brands.

01:21:19.000 Research suggests they may even be more addictive due to higher nicotine levels.

01:21:24.000 No reduced harm, no evidence of the absence of additives makes cigarette smokes less harmful.

01:21:30.000 High nicotine addiction studies have found that.

01:21:32.000 Many varieties have higher nicotine yields compared to other popular brands, suggesting higher addictiveness.

01:21:39.000 Misleading marketing.

01:21:40.000 FDA previously required the manufacturers to stop using natural and additive free in marketing as these terms falsely implied lower risk.

01:21:49.000 Why does that imply lower risk if you say additive free?

01:21:53.000 Consumer misconception 64% of American spirit smokers incorrectly believe they're less harmful, often because of their natural branding.

01:22:01.000 This lady, this doctor, was making that argument.

01:22:03.000 She was saying the Chemicals that they add to cigarettes that make them more addictive.

01:22:07.000 Like, remember that Russell Crowe movie, The Insider?

01:22:10.000 You remember that movie?

01:22:11.000 Good movie.

01:22:12.000 It's about a guy who is a true story about a guy who's a doctor who works at a tobacco company that makes cigarettes.

01:22:20.000 And he's specifically formulating these chemicals in order to make people way more addicted.

01:22:26.000 And then he has to go to court and they try to kill him.

01:22:28.000 It's like, you know, big kind of whistleblower type drama.

01:22:33.000 That was the premise of that film, which is also based on real life.

01:22:37.000 What she's saying is that those chemicals that make you more addictive are probably much more dangerous, and that just the actual tobacco itself is probably not as dangerous.

01:22:47.000 She wasn't definitively stating this.

01:22:49.000 She was just saying that most likely they're probably safer for you.

01:22:53.000 Well, the American Spirit ones also, you smoke less because they take forever to smoke.

01:22:59.000 It's like every time I was smoking around an American Spirit smoker, you'll see a damn three quarters of a cigarette left in the ashtray.

01:23:07.000 Do you think that those, like Marlboros and shit like that, they smoke quicker on purpose so that you smoke more of them?

01:23:14.000 I think they're probably powder.

01:23:16.000 Something they add to them makes them.

01:23:18.000 Because that's the thing with American Spirit, you sit it down, it'll go out.

01:23:22.000 Right.

01:23:23.000 But if I was the light of Marlboro and sit it down there, it would burn all the way up.

01:23:27.000 Right.

01:23:28.000 I think they do that so you waste cigarettes.

01:23:29.000 That makes sense.

01:23:30.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.

01:23:31.000 That makes sense.

01:23:32.000 Yeah, because they probably calculate over time how much money that would be.

01:23:37.000 Yeah, in fact, I read somewhere that that is why there are 20 cigarettes in a pack, is because they discovered that that's exactly how many you needed to smoke as much as possible in one day.

01:23:51.000 Like, in terms of how long it's in your system, when you start getting another craving, you can smoke.

01:23:57.000 Well, that's crazy because some people smoke two packs a day, three packs a day.

01:24:00.000 Yeah, those people are like, oh.

01:24:01.000 Animals.

01:24:03.000 How are they alive?

01:24:04.000 I don't know, but I was getting close.

01:24:06.000 What were you at?

01:24:09.000 I was at a little over a pack a day where I would go through a whole pack.

01:24:14.000 And then tip into the next pack.

01:24:15.000 And then dip into the next one, yeah.

01:24:17.000 Hmm.

01:24:18.000 It makes sense that they would buy patches.

01:24:20.000 Why wouldn't they?

01:24:21.000 And why wouldn't they buy up the companies that have alternatives?

01:24:24.000 Like gum, nicorette, all that stuff.

01:24:26.000 Years ago, the VA tried to get me to quit, and they prescribed me the patches.

01:24:31.000 Yeah.

01:24:32.000 But, like I said, it's like there's 12 to 14 milligrams in a cigarette, but you only end up getting one or two.

01:24:40.000 But the patch is five.

01:24:40.000 Right.

01:24:42.000 The lowest step of the patch is five.

01:24:44.000 And do you feel it?

01:24:45.000 Yeah.

01:24:46.000 You have crazy fucking dreams, too.

01:24:49.000 You put one of them patches on before you go to bed, you're going to have a fucking crazy dream, and now you're more addicted.

01:24:49.000 Whoa.

01:24:57.000 Oh.

01:24:57.000 Because you're not used to getting five.

01:24:57.000 Right?

01:24:59.000 Man, you're getting five all night.

01:25:01.000 You wake up like, oh, shit.

01:25:02.000 You're not used to getting nicotine all night.

01:25:05.000 Ron White used to wear a patch and smoke all day.

01:25:08.000 Yeah, that's what I was about to tell you.

01:25:09.000 It's like everybody I knew that got on their patches was patching and smoking.

01:25:13.000 Yeah, Ron was patching and smoking, and then one hypnotism session, quit.

01:25:18.000 Everything.

01:25:18.000 Cold turkey.

01:25:19.000 Yep.

01:25:19.000 Really?

01:25:20.000 That's weird because he doesn't seem very suggestible.

01:25:22.000 I know.

01:25:23.000 Right?

01:25:24.000 I mean, I don't think I've ever seen him change his mind about nothing.

01:25:24.000 Yeah.

01:25:26.000 About nothing.

01:25:27.000 All of the arguments that he's had with Tony in the green room.

01:25:31.000 I live for that shit.

01:25:34.000 I live for those moments.

01:25:35.000 Those are hilarious.

01:25:37.000 Ron digs his heels in.

01:25:38.000 As soon as I hear Ron go, well, well, yeah.

01:25:41.000 Well, that's not my experience.

01:25:43.000 Yeah.

01:25:44.000 He was wearing the patch and he was smoking those little cigars.

01:25:48.000 You know those little cigars?

01:25:50.000 He was smoking them like cigarettes.

01:25:52.000 You're supposed to not inhale those little suckers.

01:25:54.000 Like those little suckers have way more nicotine.

01:25:57.000 You know those little tiny Monte Cristos?

01:25:59.000 Those little things?

01:26:00.000 You're supposed to smoke those like a cigar.

01:26:02.000 Like when I smoke them, I try to smoke them like a cigar.

01:26:05.000 You hold it in your mouth.

01:26:06.000 It's a tiny cigar.

01:26:07.000 You can't tell these Texas gentlemen not to smoke nothing.

01:26:12.000 Well, Ron has got amazing willpower because he got off the alcohol and just done.

01:26:17.000 Never touched it again.

01:26:18.000 Got off the cigarettes, done.

01:26:20.000 Never touched them again.

01:26:22.000 Yeah, I love that guy.

01:26:24.000 He's the best.

01:26:25.000 He's the best.

01:26:26.000 But it's like that ability to just turn something off like that.

01:26:31.000 How much money?

01:26:32.000 Let's look into that.

01:26:33.000 How much money is in the nicotine business overall in America?

01:26:38.000 It's probably way more now with pouches and vapes on top of cigarettes.

01:26:44.000 I think it's less now.

01:26:45.000 But I bet the cigarettes probably have been less.

01:26:47.000 But now so many people are on the pouches and so many people are vaping.

01:26:52.000 Well, the thing is, I think there's less money overall, but that's why there's less companies because they keep getting bought.

01:27:01.000 Right.

01:27:01.000 Because people are smoking less.

01:27:03.000 The kids are smoking way less cigarettes.

01:27:06.000 Way less cigarettes, and they don't vape as much as we think.

01:27:09.000 But I think a lot of them are on the zins, a lot of them are on pouches.

01:27:14.000 Let's guess.

01:27:15.000 What do you think the overall industry of cigarettes or nicotine products in America, the collective amount of money that nicotine products in America generate every year?

01:27:27.000 I'm going to say $10 billion.

01:27:30.000 Yeah, that sounds about right.

01:27:32.000 It's less than $10 billion.

01:27:33.000 For the whole country, I'll say $6 billion.

01:27:35.000 Let's say $6 billion because there are 350 million people plus Mexicans.

01:27:40.000 That's just for the oral nicotine.

01:27:44.000 $6.

01:27:44.000 Is how much?

01:27:45.000 Whoa.

01:27:46.000 Cigarettes is way higher.

01:27:50.000 What is cigarettes?

01:27:51.000 76 billion.

01:27:54.000 Oh, shit.

01:27:55.000 That's more than sports.

01:27:56.000 Bro, that's crazy.

01:27:58.000 That's more than football.

01:28:00.000 It's cigarettes and traditional tobacco, which put into.

01:28:02.000 Like cigars.

01:28:03.000 Cigars and, like, the.

01:28:06.000 Speaking of which.

01:28:07.000 Lucas and stuff.

01:28:08.000 Okay, but what was it 20 years ago?

01:28:11.000 Was it higher?

01:28:12.000 Was it higher?

01:28:12.000 I don't know what it was 20 years ago from what I looked, but it has grown.

01:28:16.000 It's growing slowly every year.

01:28:18.000 It's a total of 100 billion when you include everything together.

01:28:21.000 That's crazy.

01:28:23.000 Well, I mean, but it isn't really crazy because it's one of the legal and socially acceptable drugs to be on all day.

01:28:32.000 Yeah.

01:28:32.000 You can smoke it because you can't even drink at work.

01:28:32.000 Yeah.

01:28:35.000 Especially if you use pouches now.

01:28:37.000 Everybody's using pouches.

01:28:38.000 Yeah, they're predicting the pouches are going to go from around four to six billion now.

01:28:43.000 And by 2030, so that's only five to six years from now, could get up to 50 billion.

01:28:49.000 Well, here's the thing they have nootropic benefits, like they do enhance your cognitive performance.

01:28:56.000 Nicotine does.

01:28:57.000 And there's a lot of people that swear by them, like for creativity and stuff.

01:29:03.000 Like, one of the things that Stephen King talked about in that book on writing was that one of his biggest bumps in the road with his writing career is when he quit smoking.

01:29:12.000 He's had a really hard time, like, getting his synapses to fire the same way.

01:29:17.000 So it was really noticeable the difference in quitting nicotine.

01:29:22.000 But then again, his best shit he wrote when he was on Coke.

01:29:25.000 He was doing Coke and drinking beer.

01:29:27.000 Yeah.

01:29:28.000 And he wrote his best, craziest shit when he was doing that.

01:29:31.000 No, but I'm gonna be honest about that though.

01:29:32.000 Like, I do feel less creative or less, not less creative, but less.

01:29:43.000 I don't know.

01:29:44.000 It does feel like, it feels like my brain is working different.

01:29:47.000 What about cigars?

01:29:48.000 You ever thought about cigars?

01:29:49.000 Or you just like think it's too much of a gateway?

01:29:53.000 Yeah, I would be right back on it.

01:29:54.000 I'd be right back on it.

01:29:56.000 Maybe we can get some nicotine drops, Jamie.

01:29:59.000 You can just shoot it into your fucking eyeballs.

01:30:02.000 You fuck with the pouches at all?

01:30:03.000 Or do you worry that the pouches will bring you closer to the cigarettes?

01:30:06.000 No, but I've never fucked with the pouches.

01:30:08.000 You want to try one?

01:30:08.000 I don't know.

01:30:10.000 Oh, this doesn't have nicotine in it.

01:30:10.000 Aren't I trying one?

01:30:11.000 That is no nicotine.

01:30:12.000 That's an ultra pouch.

01:30:15.000 Don't do it.

01:30:15.000 No, no, no.

01:30:18.000 Maybe I'll try the gum.

01:30:18.000 Maybe the gum.

01:30:19.000 Yeah, I've tried the gum.

01:30:21.000 How is that?

01:30:21.000 I like pouches.

01:30:22.000 I like pouches better.

01:30:25.000 It's interesting that, like, they would probably.

01:30:29.000 I wonder how much money is spent.

01:30:32.000 Okay, what is the patch worth?

01:30:35.000 Like, how much does that generate?

01:30:36.000 You know what's wild?

01:30:37.000 They were trying to give me nicotine in the hospital.

01:30:39.000 For what?

01:30:41.000 Because they knew I was a smoker, and they were like, You don't want any?

01:30:44.000 I was like, no.

01:30:45.000 How were they trying to give it to you?

01:30:46.000 In what way?

01:30:46.000 I don't know if it was a pouch or gum.

01:30:49.000 They have mints, too.

01:30:49.000 But it had been prescribed to me and it was just sitting there.

01:30:54.000 And every time a shift changed, somebody would run me.

01:30:55.000 Hey, so you know you got some shizzer, right?

01:30:58.000 I was like, no, I'm okay.

01:31:00.000 Somebody sent me some nicotine mints and they made me nervous.

01:31:03.000 Like, I didn't like them, they made me feel uncomfortable.

01:31:05.000 They're a tiny slice.

01:31:06.000 Okay.

01:31:06.000 Nicotine patches are a tiny slice of the nicotine economy in the U.S.

01:31:10.000 They amount to at most a few hundred million dollars per year versus tens of billions for cigarettes and other nicotine products.

01:31:16.000 Yeah, but you know what?

01:31:17.000 The reason they still invest in them is because every time you try to quit and you use the pouches, when you come back, you're more addicted.

01:31:24.000 Right.

01:31:25.000 So it's just a cycle.

01:31:26.000 Yeah, it's insurance that you'll get back on the cigarettes.

01:31:29.000 Yeah, because I bet you they're not, they probably don't track how many people.

01:31:33.000 What's so funny, Jen?

01:31:34.000 Nicotine replacement therapy?

01:31:36.000 Therapy.

01:31:37.000 The global nicotine replacement therapy market, patches, gum, lozenges, et cetera, is around $3.1 billion.

01:31:43.000 Therapy.

01:31:44.000 Just reading that in this room sounds like a silly.

01:31:47.000 Weird conspiracy or something like that.

01:31:48.000 Predicted to reach 4.7 billion US dollars by 2034.

01:31:54.000 But it makes sense that they would invest in that.

01:31:56.000 Like, you know, why wouldn't they?

01:32:00.000 It's like if they're smart business people, you know?

01:32:03.000 Yeah.

01:32:04.000 Did you hear about that special forces soldier that got in trouble because he bet on Poly Market that Maduro was going to be kidnapped?

01:32:14.000 Oh, they found out who it was.

01:32:15.000 Yeah, they caught the dude.

01:32:17.000 Oh, no.

01:32:18.000 Yeah, he made four, I believe he made.

01:32:20.000 $400,000 and he tried to cover his tracks.

01:32:23.000 Oh, I thought it was like Trump's son or something.

01:32:25.000 People thought it was Don Jr.

01:32:28.000 Well, who knows what they've done.

01:32:31.000 I mean, they're probably not looking at them the same way they're looking at these special forces.

01:32:31.000 Oh, yeah.

01:32:35.000 Your boy Trump don't leave no crumbs on the table.

01:32:37.000 He's like, I need all this bread.

01:32:38.000 I'm on the way out.

01:32:39.000 I still need this bread.

01:32:40.000 Yeah, I mean, think about that the coin, the Trump coin.

01:32:43.000 I mean, that's crazy.

01:32:45.000 That's crazy.

01:32:46.000 It's legal, but it's a Melania coin.

01:32:49.000 Bro, if you're buying any celebrities' coins, you deserve to lose your money.

01:32:55.000 Mm hmm.

01:32:56.000 But I think what Metzger explained to me, he goes, These are gambling addicts.

01:33:00.000 They're gambling.

01:33:01.000 He goes, They know that it's going to crash.

01:33:02.000 No one's under any illusion that this is going to last forever.

01:33:05.000 They try to get in and get out and make money while they're doing it.

01:33:07.000 It's like they just figure out when to buy and when to sell.

01:33:10.000 Yeah, but there are people that think that, you know, those are the suckers.

01:33:14.000 Those are who you're getting money from.

01:33:15.000 It's the ones that think it.

01:33:17.000 You could look at it that way.

01:33:19.000 Or you could look at it as this is an effective way to pay people off legally.

01:33:25.000 So here's the thing.

01:33:26.000 I'm not accusing anybody of doing this, but I'm saying let's say if I started a JRE coin and maybe some Middle Eastern government decided they were going to invest $500 million in a JRE coin and then I announced the JRE coin.

01:33:42.000 They put in the money to back this JRE coin.

01:33:44.000 I get a substantial stake in the JRE coin.

01:33:47.000 So I get a bunch of JRE coins and then I just dump all my JRE coins and then I get all that money and then it goes from being worth.

01:33:56.000 X amount of dollars to being worth almost nothing.

01:33:58.000 Is that the pump and dump?

01:33:59.000 That's the pump and dump.

01:34:00.000 Yeah.

01:34:00.000 Oh, yeah.

01:34:01.000 So that would be a way I'd pay you.

01:34:02.000 So, like, say maybe if you and I had some sort of a deal that was a little shady, and I said, Brian, how about this?

01:34:08.000 I can't pay you outright, but what I can do is why don't you start a crypto coin and I will invest in your crypto coin, which is a very legal venture, and I will put in $100 million into your crypto coin.

01:34:21.000 And so now your crypto coin, a bunch of people will also throw money in because there's $100 million in it and they know that it's going to pump and dump, it's going to happen.

01:34:28.000 Like the real clever fuckers, and then you just get out.

01:34:31.000 So you get out as soon as it hits the peak, like you get it set up so that, like, maybe peaks in 24 hours or whatever the fuck it is.

01:34:38.000 Like, let's, like, let's, and again, we're not accusing anybody of anything.

01:34:42.000 But let's look at.

01:34:44.000 Nor are we taking notes.

01:34:47.000 Let's look at Trump coin.

01:34:49.000 How much was Trump coin worth, like, right after it came out versus five days later?

01:34:57.000 So, somewhere that money has to go somewhere.

01:35:01.000 And so, if I invested in Brian Simpson coin and then that money, it got to the coin, it was worth, I don't know, what, What a coin's worth.

01:35:10.000 I don't know what it's worth, but let's just say it got to its peak and then you sell and you just dump all your coins.

01:35:16.000 And so you just rake in a big pile of money, millions and millions of dollars.

01:35:21.000 And everybody else is like, the people that were dummies, they don't get anything.

01:35:27.000 And then me, I didn't expect to get any money.

01:35:29.000 I'm just trying to bribe you, I'm trying to pay you off.

01:35:32.000 What the thing is Does that make sense?

01:35:35.000 Oh, yeah.

01:35:36.000 The thing is, America is like three quarters scams.

01:35:39.000 A lot of scams.

01:35:40.000 And some people sit around complaining about the scams instead of getting in on them.

01:35:43.000 Did you hear what Dr. Oz said?

01:35:45.000 No.

01:35:45.000 Dr. Oz works for the government now.

01:35:50.000 California has a big hostel scam going on.

01:35:53.000 You know how Minneapolis and Minnesota had the daycare scam?

01:35:57.000 California has a bunch of fake hostels where they're taking care of people.

01:36:01.000 That's what it is, right?

01:36:03.000 So they shut funding down to 400 of them.

01:36:07.000 Not one of them complained.

01:36:10.000 They're just like, well, see ya.

01:36:12.000 And so it's his assertion that that's because they were all scams.

01:36:17.000 So, that Nick Shirley guy, the same guy that investigated the fraud in Minneapolis, he's investigated some of the fraud in California.

01:36:24.000 And one of the things that they found in some of his videos is like a lot of these businesses are registered to like a hotel.

01:36:29.000 And like every room in this vacant hotel is a different office for whatever company.

01:36:36.000 And so each room in the hotel is raking in money as an office that's supposed to be working as a hostel or as some sort of a rehab center or fill in the blank.

01:36:50.000 They have all these learning centers, all these different kinds of things.

01:36:53.000 And it's all just government scams, Medicaid scams.

01:36:56.000 Yeah, get in on the scam.

01:36:58.000 Get in on the scam.

01:36:59.000 Scamming is the American way.

01:37:01.000 Looking at it, how you asked isn't the best way to look at this?

01:37:04.000 Here's what it said.

01:37:05.000 Of course not.

01:37:06.000 I'll show you what it says after this, though.

01:37:08.000 Trump's official Trump meme coin launched at around 1 US dollar, range reported roughly 0.18 to 1.20.

01:37:08.000 Okay.

01:37:19.000 And within about five days, it had crashed down from a brief spike near 70 to 75 US dollars.

01:37:24.000 Down to a high of 30s per coin.

01:37:27.000 So that's within five days.

01:37:29.000 So it spiked at 75 and then it dropped down to 30.

01:37:32.000 Different data provide slightly different start points, but they are in the same general zone.

01:37:37.000 Crypto Analytics notes Trump was launched on January 17, 2025, initially worth 18 cents per token.

01:37:45.000 So everybody buys in when that happens.

01:37:48.000 Other coverage and exchange posts describe trading beginning around $1 or about $1 within the first hours after launch.

01:37:56.000 So, a reasonable takeaway is launch price is 0.2 to 1.0 US dollars per Trump, depending on which exact tick you chose.

01:38:06.000 So, within first hours after launch, the price skyrocketed from around $1 to around 75 US dollars.

01:38:14.000 So, that's when you want to get out within the first hours.

01:38:17.000 Reports the same weekend cite highs near 70 to 75 US dollars and a market cap over 10 to 12 billion.

01:38:25.000 A finance report on days after launch, trading started around 7 US dollars on Friday jumped as high as 74 on Sunday.

01:38:32.000 So that's when you're supposed to get out.

01:38:34.000 So let me ask this what is it worth now?

01:38:37.000 That's like $2 now.

01:38:39.000 So it got as high as $74.

01:38:39.000 Interesting.

01:38:42.000 Now you got to hold on to it.

01:38:44.000 Now you're fucked.

01:38:45.000 Just in case.

01:38:45.000 There's a little bit more.

01:38:46.000 It's like there's more into it because it's not the easiest coin to get.

01:38:50.000 And how do you get it?

01:38:51.000 And all those kinds of things come into play.

01:38:53.000 And that's kind of what I think this sentence is more about.

01:38:56.000 Right.

01:38:56.000 But if it went to $75, somebody must have made a ton of loot, right?

01:39:02.000 Had to.

01:39:03.000 That's what it says 800,000 wallets, which could be people.

01:39:03.000 Yeah.

01:39:07.000 Collectively lost around $2 billion while the Trump organization and partners profited heavily from fees.

01:39:14.000 Interesting.

01:39:16.000 So, this is the thing.

01:39:17.000 That's just that one.

01:39:18.000 What is the worst pump and dump in crypto coin history?

01:39:22.000 Let's look at that.

01:39:23.000 Wasn't it that?

01:39:24.000 Let's find out.

01:39:25.000 Sam Bankman Fried?

01:39:26.000 I think it was him.

01:39:27.000 Well, I think what he was doing, he said that if he was left alone, he would have recovered the debt and that he had been doing this back and forth.

01:39:35.000 They just caught him in a moment where this one guy.

01:39:39.000 Sold all his coins off to try to crash him on purpose, like his rival.

01:39:43.000 And then he didn't have the money to cover the spread.

01:39:45.000 And then people wanted their money out.

01:39:46.000 And then they realized.

01:39:48.000 But he had been, they all do that, apparently.

01:39:52.000 It was what his argument was, I believe.

01:39:56.000 I think he said that if he was not, that they didn't interfere with him, not only would those coins have gotten the money back, but they would be profitable today.

01:40:06.000 See, I have friends that have profited from it.

01:40:09.000 But when I hear them talk about it, it's like I just don't quite understand it fully.

01:40:13.000 I feel exactly the same way.

01:40:14.000 And I can't put my money in some shit that I can't articulate.

01:40:17.000 If I can't articulate how I can make money, I can't do it.

01:40:22.000 Yeah, not only do I not understand it, I don't trust it.

01:40:25.000 It sounds crazy to me.

01:40:27.000 And the people that try to talk you into it, they freak me out.

01:40:31.000 Well, a lot of times they just.

01:40:33.000 No, there's a new scam.

01:40:34.000 Somebody in my family is getting caught up with these fucking scammers.

01:40:38.000 But they're finding.

01:40:40.000 Elderly, it's like going through the elderly community, a new Ponzi pyramid, Ponzi scheme.

01:40:45.000 And basically, they're telling these old folks that they are joining a crypto exchange, but the crypto isn't real.

01:40:45.000 Oh no.

01:40:55.000 So they download this app and they're telling them all you gotta do is get up every morning and make these trades, and you make this much percent of your money back.

01:41:07.000 And so, and they go, and you know what?

01:41:08.000 And just so you know, it's not a scam.

01:41:11.000 I'm gonna put in a grand for you.

01:41:12.000 I'm gonna put in two.

01:41:13.000 Fuck it, I put in five grand for you.

01:41:15.000 But you don't realize that money's fake too.

01:41:17.000 You download the app, they can show you how much money you want.

01:41:19.000 But you can't get that money out.

01:41:21.000 So here's how they get you.

01:41:23.000 So they get you either way.

01:41:24.000 So if you do, so the ultimate plan is to lull you into going, like they want you to log on every day and see that number going up and going, oh shit, I'm gonna put my money in there so I can make even more money.

01:41:38.000 Right?

01:41:38.000 That's the ultimate plan.

01:41:40.000 But even if you got suspicious, And you're like, I want to take my money out.

01:41:45.000 Well, they go, okay, well, just send us an early withdrawal fee.

01:41:49.000 So they only end up getting a little bit of money out of you, but they still get real money out of you for no money.

01:41:53.000 And even if you end up getting so suspicious that you won't even do that, well, they got you to download this app on your phone.

01:42:01.000 And so they got your information.

01:42:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:42:03.000 Most people use the same login credentials across apps, so you done gave them that as well.

01:42:07.000 Right.

01:42:07.000 You know, or they got your email address, they can sell that.

01:42:11.000 And they have your security questions, so they know your first dog's name and shit like that.

01:42:15.000 So it's like, At the very least, they're getting away with your info.

01:42:19.000 Right.

01:42:19.000 Or some of your real money.

01:42:21.000 You know?

01:42:22.000 And a lot of old folks, they hear crypto and they don't really understand it.

01:42:26.000 So it's easy to convince them that, oh, it's just something I don't understand, but this app makes it easy for me.

01:42:31.000 Isn't it crazy that the poly market thing for this special forces soldier, that he's going to jail for this, but Congress is allowed to insider trade?

01:42:42.000 Oh, bro, bro.

01:42:43.000 And that's kind of crazy because you can't be sure that the mission to try to overthrow Maduro is going to be successful, right?

01:42:53.000 So if they're trying to overthrow Maduro, that's a military operation.

01:42:56.000 They're not always successful.

01:42:58.000 So if he's gambling on a military operation that he's about to embark in, he's kind of betting on his own.

01:43:05.000 Well, I think what they're getting him for is more that he endangered the mission.

01:43:12.000 That's what they're saying?

01:43:12.000 Really?

01:43:14.000 Yeah, because if we're supposed to keep our military movements a secret and it gets out there that someone keeps on predicting when we're going to make certain movements, then our enemies will be watching Polymarket for when people bet on.

01:43:32.000 That actually makes sense.

01:43:33.000 Is that really the case, Jamie?

01:43:34.000 What is he in trouble for?

01:43:36.000 I mean, I'm reading through the justice.gov thing.

01:43:40.000 What Brian was saying started to make sense off of here, but at the bottom it says the actual charges, and the charges are three counts of violating the Commodity Exchange Act each, which carries a maximum of 10 years, one count of wire fraud, which is a 20 year max, one count of unlawful monetary transaction, which is a 10 year max, and what's the other one?

01:44:03.000 Well, that's only two, but it says there's three.

01:44:07.000 That's crazy because, like, How come no one in Congress ever gets in trouble?

01:44:13.000 They do sometimes.

01:44:14.000 I don't know.

01:44:15.000 When they don't vote correctly?

01:44:16.000 No, like every year somebody goes down.

01:44:17.000 They're not insider trading.

01:44:19.000 They get busted for other shit.

01:44:20.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:44:21.000 For like taking bribes and stuff like that.

01:44:22.000 Yeah.

01:44:22.000 Has anybody ever been busted Congress wise for insider trading on stocks?

01:44:27.000 I don't think so.

01:44:28.000 If I guess.

01:44:29.000 There was another controversy recently.

01:44:31.000 They're accusing Fetterman of doing it.

01:44:33.000 But the type of shit the average person goes to jail for.

01:44:36.000 Oh, my God.

01:44:37.000 What?

01:44:37.000 You want to talk about something that'll piss you off about somebody going to jail?

01:44:41.000 This guy in Florida, what was his name?

01:44:41.000 Yeah.

01:44:43.000 Yeah, a few people have for sure.

01:44:44.000 Really?

01:44:45.000 Congress people?

01:44:46.000 For insider trading?

01:44:47.000 Yeah, even recently.

01:44:48.000 That's crazy.

01:44:49.000 It says rep from New York, Chris Collins pled guilty in 2019 to insider trading and lying after tipping his son about a failed drug trial, 26 months in prison, and a T Mobile stock purchase.

01:45:00.000 Definitely no senators, though.

01:45:02.000 Well, these are people that nobody knows.

01:45:04.000 Look at these people.

01:45:05.000 This ain't Nancy Pelosi.

01:45:07.000 2020 scandal.

01:45:09.000 Nah.

01:45:10.000 Occasionally, no COVID shit.

01:45:12.000 No powerful people are going to prison for that shit.

01:45:14.000 No.

01:45:14.000 Martha Stewart's the most.

01:45:15.000 The most powerful person that ever went to jail.

01:45:17.000 Yeah, but she didn't even go to jail for that.

01:45:19.000 She went to jail for lying.

01:45:20.000 78 members have been arrested.

01:45:22.000 One different, not arrested, but all violated the Stock Act.

01:45:25.000 Interesting, which requires reporting financial trades within 45 days.

01:45:30.000 Maybe that's just because they tried to hide it and everybody else is just like, oh, I just made a good deal.

01:45:34.000 No, Joe, but they're saying just in this Congress.

01:45:36.000 In April, three candidates were fined by Kowalski for allegedly political insider trading by betting on their own races.

01:45:45.000 But wait a minute.

01:45:47.000 You can't bet on your own race?

01:45:48.000 That seems crazy.

01:45:49.000 Like, if you think you're going to win, you don't know if you're going to win.

01:45:52.000 No one knows.

01:45:53.000 But you're probably the first one to know which way it's going to go.

01:45:58.000 I don't know about that.

01:45:59.000 I don't think those polls are ever correct.

01:46:03.000 That's not true.

01:46:04.000 They must be somewhat correct.

01:46:06.000 In my case, they were suspended from Calci, so I don't know that they got in trouble for that.

01:46:09.000 So, Joe, check this shit out.

01:46:11.000 This is going to get under your skin.

01:46:12.000 So, this dude, Michael Martin in Florida, he.

01:46:18.000 He made an addition to his house, a million dollar addition to his house.

01:46:22.000 It got approved by the city and everything.

01:46:25.000 And after he put it up, his neighbors complained.

01:46:30.000 They went and dug up some like hundred year old statue and complained, right?

01:46:38.000 So they take him to court.

01:46:40.000 And his argument is well, it got approved by the city.

01:46:43.000 Like, that's why I built it.

01:46:44.000 Right.

01:46:45.000 So fuck them.

01:46:46.000 But he compromised already.

01:46:48.000 He compromised and he put up a thing to block his view so it wouldn't bother them.

01:46:54.000 Okay.

01:46:55.000 And that wasn't good enough for them.

01:46:57.000 So then the judge ended up ordering him to tear it all down.

01:47:01.000 Oh, my God.

01:47:02.000 And he refused.

01:47:04.000 And now he's still in jail right now.

01:47:06.000 Oh, my God.

01:47:07.000 For contempt of court.

01:47:08.000 Is this a homeowners association thing?

01:47:11.000 No.

01:47:11.000 No, it's just his neighbor.

01:47:13.000 No, because everything was approved.

01:47:15.000 It got approved by the HOA, got approved by the city, and everything.

01:47:17.000 And he spent all his money.

01:47:18.000 He spent all his money, built it up, and then his neighbor had a problem with it.

01:47:22.000 Oh, his neighbor's a piece of shit.

01:47:23.000 And now the judge wants him to tear it down.

01:47:25.000 Can you imagine your neighbor wanting you to take down an addition to your house?

01:47:28.000 Like, why do you give a fuck?

01:47:29.000 I'm telling you right now.

01:47:31.000 If I'm going to jail over that, I'm going to whoop your ass.

01:47:31.000 If I'm going to jail.

01:47:34.000 I'm going to at least be in there for something.

01:47:36.000 That's so crazy that people can take someone to court for doing something to their house.

01:47:40.000 Like, what does it matter to you?

01:47:42.000 Is it affecting your view?

01:47:43.000 Like, what is it?

01:47:44.000 Yeah, I think it's one of those things where it's like, technically, I think the argument you can make is that I bought this house because the forest was right there and he's chopping down the forest.

01:47:56.000 Is that what he's doing, though?

01:47:57.000 No, that's not what he's doing, but it's like, I don't know what the.

01:47:59.000 And I forget what the statute is that they found.

01:48:01.000 His name was Michael Martin, but they found some old ass technicality.

01:48:07.000 That the city didn't even know about because they approved it.

01:48:07.000 Right?

01:48:10.000 You'd hate that name forever if that guy made you take down your addition that you spent $200,000 building up.

01:48:17.000 Yeah, because that's my thing.

01:48:18.000 It's like, how is the judge, how can you tell a man, fuck your million dollars?

01:48:22.000 Right.

01:48:23.000 Right.

01:48:23.000 That's what's crazy to me.

01:48:24.000 And you got approved by the city.

01:48:26.000 And he can't appeal that?

01:48:28.000 I don't know.

01:48:30.000 He's in jail while it's being appealed, and that's what his lawyer's like.

01:48:33.000 No, because here's the thing he can get out of jail anytime he wants.

01:48:33.000 He's.

01:48:36.000 All he has to do is tear down the edition.

01:48:37.000 He has to tear down the edition.

01:48:39.000 Yeah, but if he's appealing, why would he tear down the edition?

01:48:41.000 And then when he wins the appeal, he builds it back up again, and then the guy appeals the appeal.

01:48:45.000 It's also saying that demo is going to cost 800 grand.

01:48:48.000 Oh, my God.

01:48:50.000 Oh, my God.

01:48:51.000 This fucking cunt neighbor.

01:48:53.000 Yeah, you talk about being fucked.

01:48:54.000 What is the specifics, though?

01:48:55.000 Am I wrong?

01:48:56.000 I mean, maybe the neighbor's right.

01:48:58.000 I'm looking to see how it went down.

01:49:00.000 Yeah.

01:49:02.000 Because what did the neighbor have any.

01:49:05.000 How could that make sense?

01:49:07.000 Yeah, it's starting off said the lawyer for a temple.

01:49:09.000 Tampa couple who asked a judge to find their neighbor in contempt of court over a disputed guest house says there's more to the story than we first brought to you about.

01:49:17.000 Of course.

01:49:18.000 There's always more to the story.

01:49:19.000 What is he growing?

01:49:21.000 He's not sharing.

01:49:25.000 My old neighborhood, there was this guy who built a house and it was just kind of flat.

01:49:30.000 It was kind of boring.

01:49:32.000 It was just not creative.

01:49:35.000 The guy was a builder and he wasn't much of an architect and I don't think he hired an architect.

01:49:39.000 He just had his own idea to how to build the house, but he got permits and he did it.

01:49:43.000 But I remember my neighbor complaining.

01:49:45.000 And he's like, You believe this guy built this fucking house?

01:49:47.000 I'm like, What is the big deal?

01:49:48.000 And he's like, You don't think that's an eyesore?

01:49:51.000 I go, Well, it's boring.

01:49:52.000 It's a boring house.

01:49:53.000 Like, what do you care?

01:49:55.000 I just didn't understand it.

01:49:56.000 But he wanted to start complaining and get a bunch of people to file a complaint about this guy's house.

01:50:01.000 Local news site.

01:50:03.000 The location will allow the occupant of the guest house to peer into the backyard and pool area of the Babbitts home.

01:50:10.000 Oh.

01:50:11.000 Martin subsequently removed any windows facing the Babbitts property and installed bamboo.

01:50:15.000 Along the property line to obstruct the view of the guest house.

01:50:18.000 Yeah, they were mad that you could see into their house.

01:50:22.000 To their yard where their pool is.

01:50:24.000 Yeah, that's how it started.

01:50:25.000 That says that was the initial complaint, but there are 500 filings that they've had over five years.

01:50:30.000 Oh, God.

01:50:31.000 1924 original subdivision said it was public space or supposed to be public space or something like that.

01:50:37.000 Look at that.

01:50:38.000 1924.

01:50:39.000 They went and found a 1924 statute.

01:50:43.000 They're saying that the company he hired that got the approval did that illegally, and that's their claim, I guess.

01:50:50.000 And then it all has to do with the other.

01:50:53.000 So Martin signed a contract with the demolition company and needs to pay $392,372.50 to Dynamite Demolition.

01:51:02.000 What a great name.

01:51:03.000 I want to get a t shirt.

01:51:04.000 Dynamite Demolition.

01:51:06.000 To begin tearing down the structures, Judge Nash rejected them until last week, finding Martin in contempt and ordering a writ of bodily attachment, which orders all law enforcement to take Martin into custody and take him to jail.

01:51:20.000 No one is above the law, McLaren said.

01:51:23.000 So we just want the court's ruling to be complied with, and that's it.

01:51:27.000 Boy.

01:51:28.000 But somebody being able to see into your pool is wow for you to really go through this much trouble.

01:51:33.000 She said, oh, so this general contractor, Julie McGill, is one of the several outside contractors and developers I asked to evaluate the case.

01:51:40.000 She says she can't remember a time when a judge told the city that it didn't follow its own code on neighborhood conformity.

01:51:48.000 Wow.

01:51:49.000 But see, Mr. Martin, you fucking up the game.

01:51:52.000 You know what you got to do, man?

01:51:53.000 You know what you got to do, Mr. Martin?

01:51:55.000 Just comply.

01:51:56.000 Okay?

01:51:57.000 Because you're not going to win like this.

01:51:59.000 Do what they say pay the money, tear it down.

01:52:01.000 I'm guessing you got the money.

01:52:02.000 If you build a million dollar guest house with a pickleball court and a pool just for your guests, you got the bread.

01:52:07.000 Pay that bread, and then you take the money you save from not being caught up in all of these lawsuits, okay?

01:52:14.000 And you spend it on revenge.

01:52:16.000 You hire the most cold blooded, fucking creative people you can think of, and you make this person's life miserable in all the legal ways possible, in all the ways where he knows it's you and he can't do shit about it.

01:52:30.000 You hire a bunch of college students, you get them a prize for whoever finds any statute that can fuck this man's life up.

01:52:37.000 That's what you do.

01:52:38.000 Don't sit in jail.

01:52:40.000 You cannot take any revenge that costs you something.

01:52:44.000 It's got to be pure delight.

01:52:46.000 It's got to be served cold.

01:52:47.000 That's what that saying is the revenge is best served cold.

01:52:50.000 It's like you have to take care with the dish.

01:52:52.000 You can't just react.

01:52:53.000 It would be weird, though, if you always had a backyard where your pool didn't face anybody and then all of a sudden a dude put a house.

01:53:00.000 Right behind your pool.

01:53:01.000 Put up a gazebo, motherfucker.

01:53:02.000 I'm reading more.

01:53:03.000 It's not exactly what it was.

01:53:04.000 It says there was already, they put together some lots to make one bigger lot, and there was already something on that.

01:53:12.000 And so when he bought it, they're like, we don't see any problem with fixing that, changing how it looked.

01:53:16.000 And now that might be.

01:53:18.000 But here's also the thing, though, Joe.

01:53:20.000 He offered to block, like, put up a wall and block the, for me to have no windows.

01:53:26.000 Yeah.

01:53:26.000 Put up bamboo.

01:53:28.000 And I feel like if it's a good neighbor, that's reasonable.

01:53:31.000 That's a reasonable compromise.

01:53:31.000 Yeah.

01:53:32.000 Go, oh, you know, I didn't even think about the accusations at your house.

01:53:35.000 We'll just knock the windows out.

01:53:36.000 That feels like, instead of being like, no, I want you to waste a million dollars.

01:53:41.000 Right.

01:53:42.000 To me, that's when you became the bad guy.

01:53:42.000 Fuck.

01:53:44.000 When he offered a reasonable compromise and you said, fuck no, then fuck you.

01:53:48.000 Fuck you.

01:53:49.000 Yeah, fuck you.

01:53:50.000 I'm telling you right now, they're lucky it's not me with a million dollars.

01:53:53.000 I'm Batman and you the Joker.

01:53:53.000 Because I'm Batman now.

01:53:55.000 And I'm going to spend my whole life as though that's true.

01:54:01.000 Yeah, I'm going to tear it down.

01:54:03.000 I'm going to sell the house.

01:54:03.000 I'm going to use all the money from selling this house.

01:54:06.000 I'm going to use all that money to wake your life hard.

01:54:09.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:54:10.000 I'm going to pay people to break in your house.

01:54:13.000 That's illegal.

01:54:13.000 Don't do that.

01:54:14.000 That's illegal.

01:54:15.000 You don't want to pay it.

01:54:16.000 Don't do illegal things.

01:54:17.000 Let a crackhead do it.

01:54:18.000 But that's illegal still.

01:54:19.000 Okay.

01:54:20.000 Crackhead will rat you out too.

01:54:21.000 Then you'll be in jail.

01:54:22.000 Cut your internet line.

01:54:23.000 Wait till you call the repair shop.

01:54:24.000 That's illegal too.

01:54:25.000 Have them throw dead mice in the back of your vents.

01:54:27.000 You can't have it be illegal.

01:54:29.000 It's got to be legal.

01:54:29.000 Right.

01:54:29.000 It can be illegal.

01:54:30.000 It must be legal.

01:54:31.000 But I just can't think of anything legal right now.

01:54:33.000 Well, you could sue people for all kinds of stupid shit and just make them go through legal problems.

01:54:38.000 Don't sue.

01:54:38.000 Yeah.

01:54:39.000 Just have people outside with a tape measureer.

01:54:41.000 If they're a centimeter from the curb, call them cops.

01:54:46.000 Straight neighbor wars.

01:54:48.000 Neighbor wars are real, man.

01:54:49.000 People kill each other over neighbor wars.

01:54:50.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:51.000 The Hatfields and the McCoys.

01:54:52.000 Ancient.

01:54:53.000 Yeah.

01:54:55.000 I think that was over some other shit.

01:54:57.000 There's nothing worse than living beside somebody like this.

01:55:01.000 No.

01:55:02.000 It's completely unreasonable, completely unable to compromise.

01:55:05.000 Nice neighbors are beautiful.

01:55:07.000 You have good neighbors, it's great.

01:55:07.000 Oh, man.

01:55:09.000 I have nice neighbors.

01:55:10.000 And I have nice neighbors in California, too.

01:55:13.000 Because here's the thing it doesn't take much to be a good neighbor.

01:55:16.000 You have to be thoughtful and.

01:55:20.000 In the times that you're not thoughtful, when it's brought to your attention, you have to have the appropriate amount of shame.

01:55:25.000 Well, here it goes.

01:55:26.000 Stolen hog.

01:55:28.000 It was over a stolen hog?

01:55:30.000 Illicit romance and longstanding judges.

01:55:33.000 Two neighboring families in the backwoods of Appalachia.

01:55:35.000 So here's the thing about that, though.

01:55:37.000 I think this is from Malcolm Gladwell's book.

01:55:43.000 I forget whose book it's from, but there was a book where they explained that what had happened, I believe it's Malcolm Gladwell.

01:55:50.000 Was he explaining that the reason why the people in Appalachia are so violent is because they come from herding populations in Europe?

01:55:58.000 And so herders in Europe are very different than farmers.

01:56:01.000 Because if herders, someone can come along and steal all your sheep and you're fucked.

01:56:05.000 You can't really steal all someone's corn, it takes forever.

01:56:08.000 You got to chop it down.

01:56:09.000 You know what I mean?

01:56:10.000 So these people were used to defending their animals with violence because people would come in and try to steal them.

01:56:18.000 Yes, Malcolm Gladwell.

01:56:19.000 Yeah, Outliers.

01:56:20.000 That's the book.

01:56:22.000 Chapter 6, Hatfield McCoy feud is analyzed as a prime example of a culture of honor, where, similar to the findings in this Reddit thread, ancestral herding roots forced rapid, brutal retaliation for insults to maintain reputation.

01:56:36.000 This cultural legacy, not just poverty, drove generations of conflict.

01:56:41.000 So, culture of honor, Gladwell argues that families descending from Scottish and Irish herders brought a culture of honor to the Appalachian Mountains.

01:56:49.000 In these regions, law enforcement is weak and survival depends on establishing a reputation for strength and Prompt, often violent retaliation against slights.

01:56:59.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

01:57:00.000 What was the name of the book, though?

01:57:02.000 It's a fucking great book.

01:57:02.000 Outliers.

01:57:04.000 It's a really good book.

01:57:05.000 Yeah, I have it.

01:57:06.000 I haven't read it, though.

01:57:07.000 It's really good.

01:57:08.000 It talks about why people are successful.

01:57:12.000 One of the more interesting things is about the Beatles.

01:57:15.000 And the Beatles talks about how they got this gig in Hamburg, Germany, where they were performing every fucking day.

01:57:23.000 Every day.

01:57:24.000 They were doing multiple sets every day.

01:57:26.000 And they did it for like.

01:57:28.000 A few years and they went back to Liverpool, and everybody's like, What the fuck happened with you guys?

01:57:32.000 Like, how'd you get so good?

01:57:34.000 And they got so good because they were just performing all the time.

01:57:37.000 I think it was at a strip club.

01:57:39.000 I think it was something crazy like that.

01:57:41.000 Like, they were performing music at a strip club, like something weird.

01:57:44.000 And because of that, they were just getting in reps, like crazy reps.

01:57:50.000 And I think that's the key to almost anything.

01:57:54.000 And this is the argument in Outliers.

01:57:54.000 Almost anything.

01:57:56.000 It's like, you know, the 10,000 hours of mastery, like that argument.

01:58:01.000 Yeah, but wasn't the $10,000?

01:58:04.000 It's not exactly what he said, right?

01:58:06.000 No, it's a rough one because there's obviously people that are savants.

01:58:10.000 Well, I know.

01:58:11.000 I think he modified it because he talked about it's not about the amount of time as much as it's about the kind, the quality of practice.

01:58:24.000 So, like, intentional directed practice.

01:58:24.000 Right.

01:58:27.000 Which would be like performing on stage.

01:58:29.000 Exactly.

01:58:30.000 For all those.

01:58:31.000 What were they doing in Hamburg, Germany, Jamie?

01:58:31.000 Where is.

01:58:33.000 Were they at.

01:58:36.000 Were they at a.

01:58:38.000 Was it a strip club?

01:58:39.000 Something like that.

01:58:40.000 It said they.

01:58:41.000 Played in clubs and strip bars.

01:58:43.000 So there's a lot of places, I guess, that played.

01:58:43.000 Yeah.

01:58:45.000 So they were just going off.

01:58:46.000 They were just like doing as many sets as they can.

01:58:49.000 Which is the same with comedy.

01:58:50.000 Everybody that we know that really progressed rapidly, they did as many sets as possible.

01:58:56.000 They're hopping all over the place.

01:58:57.000 Like guys in our club, like Ari Maddy, for instance.

01:59:00.000 That fucking dude, he'll go up at the sunset, he'll go over here, go there, go there.

01:59:04.000 It doesn't show at the mothership.

01:59:06.000 He's just in it.

01:59:07.000 You know, he's in it.

01:59:08.000 You know?

01:59:08.000 Yeah.

01:59:10.000 And when you're doing that, you just get better quicker.

01:59:10.000 All day.

01:59:12.000 Just get better and better.

01:59:13.000 And those dudes that we know that do a set a week.

01:59:16.000 You know, come in, drop in, do 15 minutes, that's it.

01:59:19.000 You don't see them again for another week.

01:59:21.000 They kind of like get stale, they stay flat, they get stagnant.

01:59:25.000 They get stagnant, yeah.

01:59:26.000 Whereas the Beatles just got after it, and then all of a sudden, love, love, Mayday.

01:59:32.000 They just got smooth, you know, which makes sense.

01:59:35.000 That's the case with everything, though.

01:59:37.000 With like everything you do, like you don't want a surgeon that does brain surgery once a year, you know, you want a guy who's like in it.

01:59:43.000 Yeah, he's in it all day.

01:59:45.000 He's fucking studying journals and practicing with robots.

01:59:48.000 Yeah, I'm trying to be your third brain that day.

01:59:51.000 That's right.

01:59:52.000 Yeah.

01:59:52.000 You don't want to be the fifth brain, though.

01:59:54.000 No.

01:59:54.000 It gets tired.

01:59:55.000 Yo, you know what's funny is I just saw something about.

02:00:00.000 They did a study at a courthouse where.

02:00:04.000 And they found that the judge.

02:00:08.000 Whenever the judges had.

02:00:10.000 Like how harsh of a sentence you received was directly related to how long it had been since the judge ate something.

02:00:19.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:20.000 Yeah.

02:00:20.000 I've seen that before.

02:00:21.000 I've seen that.

02:00:21.000 Yeah.

02:00:22.000 That's crazy as hell.

02:00:23.000 That's crazy.

02:00:24.000 Like, and it's enough, it's statistically significant.

02:00:29.000 Yeah.

02:00:30.000 Which makes sense.

02:00:31.000 Cranky.

02:00:32.000 Or if the judge's getting no pussy, maybe he's going through a divorce.

02:00:35.000 You know, maybe his wife fucked her trainer.

02:00:37.000 Damn it.

02:00:38.000 Fuck you.

02:00:39.000 Give me the hot judge right after breakfast.

02:00:42.000 What if you come in and you're a personal trainer too, and you're dealing with some shit?

02:00:46.000 The judge's like, my wife just fucked her trainer.

02:00:49.000 You piece of shit.

02:00:51.000 Some people get real petty like that.

02:00:52.000 They don't give a fuck about.

02:00:54.000 About like doing the right thing.

02:00:57.000 Oh, hell no.

02:00:58.000 Well, they just want to, they want to feel power, fuck people over, fuck you, fuck all trainers.

02:01:05.000 Well, you know, another thing I just found out about is, um, um, I think, I think that the country is Anguilla, right, Jamie?

02:01:14.000 They, they, um, so you know how, you know how like in America the websites are all.com and in Russia it's like.ru.

02:01:24.000 Right.

02:01:26.000 In Anguilla, it's.ai.

02:01:29.000 Oh.

02:01:30.000 Which didn't used to mean shit, but now.

02:01:32.000 Now it's worth some money.

02:01:33.000 Now they're making so much money selling domains that it's like half of their money.

02:01:39.000 Oh, wow.

02:01:40.000 Yeah, it's completely changed the economy.

02:01:43.000 Oh, that's crazy because it seems like you're legit if you have like perplexity.ai.

02:01:48.000 So anything.ai, they got to pay these people.

02:01:48.000 Right.

02:01:51.000 Oh, wow.

02:01:52.000 Yeah.

02:01:53.000 Well, there's so many domains now.

02:01:54.000 Yeah, just from something we didn't used to think meant anything.

02:01:56.000 Because it used to be like.

02:01:59.000 You only had.com and.net.

02:02:01.000 Oh, yeah.

02:02:02.000 You know?

02:02:03.000 Like, you never know what this is.

02:02:04.000 Like, bro, somebody just held up a.

02:02:06.000 Somebody, because I'm on one of the subreddits I'll be on is called Why Would You Touch That or What Is This?

02:02:15.000 And usually the same posts are on both because people are like, What is this thing?

02:02:19.000 And then also, Why are you touching it?

02:02:24.000 So I just saw one recently, but somebody held up a thing and they were like, What is this?

02:02:30.000 What does this OF mean?

02:02:33.000 And it was like, But it was from, so you know Tyler the creator?

02:02:37.000 Yes.

02:02:38.000 When he first came out, his group was called Odd Future.

02:02:42.000 So, this was way before OnlyFans.

02:02:44.000 And so, if you saw OF, you know, before seven years ago, it meant that's what it meant.

02:02:44.000 Okay.

02:02:50.000 Right.

02:02:50.000 And so, it was one of their like stickers or promo things or something like that.

02:02:53.000 But this was a young kid.

02:02:54.000 He found it in an attic or something.

02:02:55.000 He didn't know what the fuck it meant.

02:02:56.000 He was like, why is it?

02:02:58.000 Because he knew how old it was.

02:02:59.000 So, he was like, it can't be OnlyFans.

02:03:01.000 What is this?

02:03:02.000 Right.

02:03:03.000 Yeah.

02:03:03.000 And it's like, this shit changes all the time.

02:03:04.000 These motherfuckers, they got this.ai.

02:03:08.000 They never thought it, nobody thought they would make any fucking money off of it.

02:03:10.000 Right.

02:03:12.000 Well, there's other ones like that too that are kind of interesting.

02:03:16.000 There's a bunch of different ones.

02:03:18.000 I'm trying to remember some of them, but some of them are like.biz.

02:03:23.000 Where'd that come from?

02:03:23.000 I don't know.

02:03:24.000 What is that?

02:03:26.000 I don't know, but they have that.

02:03:27.000 They have.biz.

02:03:29.000 I remember back when that used to mean something.

02:03:31.000 We used to have.org.

02:03:33.000 I think.edu is still a thing.

02:03:35.000 Remember when people sell websites for a lot of money?

02:03:38.000 So people would buy a bunch of domains and hold on to them.

02:03:42.000 Like business.com sold for a ton of money.

02:03:45.000 Yeah.

02:03:46.000 But now, I think it's hard to do that now.

02:03:48.000 What kind of business do you have that people are just looking up business.com?

02:03:48.000 Yeah.

02:03:52.000 Why is that even worth anything?

02:03:53.000 You know what I mean?

02:03:54.000 That's like eating.com is worth money.

02:03:56.000 I don't know if you remember back when WhiteHouse.com was a porn site.

02:04:02.000 The actual site was, it's always been WhiteHouse.gov.

02:04:02.000 Was it?

02:04:05.000 But that was back when people didn't know.

02:04:07.000 So WhiteHouse.so people, whenever anyone was looking for the White House, they go to WhiteHouse.com, they go to this porn site.

02:04:11.000 Do you know what Red Band did?

02:04:12.000 Do you know the Pepsi Spice thing?

02:04:12.000 No.

02:04:14.000 No.

02:04:16.000 What is Pepsi Spice?

02:04:18.000 What are Red Band's greatest scams?

02:04:19.000 Trolls was he bought Pepsi Spice.com.

02:04:24.000 So, Pepsi Spice was a type of Pepsi that came out.

02:04:28.000 And so, Redman bought Pepsi Spice.com and then he started documenting how he was drinking Pepsi Spice and he was having bloody diarrhea.

02:04:38.000 That's all he was drinking.

02:04:39.000 He was dying, he was getting cancer.

02:04:41.000 It's like the fucking craziest thing.

02:04:43.000 I mean, 14 years ago.

02:04:45.000 So, play that full screen.

02:04:47.000 169.

02:04:50.000 So he's losing weight?

02:04:51.000 This is Brian from PepsiSpice.com.

02:04:54.000 A lot of people wouldn't believe me, so that's why I'm making this video.

02:04:59.000 My pee has actually turned not yellow, not white, but it's a fake accent.

02:05:05.000 It's red.

02:05:07.000 And I'm not making this shit up.

02:05:09.000 That's why I'm filming using this Canon camera, the S4 megapixel camera.

02:05:19.000 That's how old this is.

02:05:20.000 Toilet.

02:05:21.000 Yeah.

02:05:23.000 I'm going to pee again.

02:05:25.000 I'm just going to.

02:05:32.000 So he's like pretending that his pee's bloody.

02:05:35.000 Oh, this guy.

02:05:36.000 He's so silly.

02:05:37.000 He just kept doing it like it got worse and worse and worse.

02:05:40.000 And eventually Pepsi Spice bought it from him.

02:05:42.000 Though the hardest part to believe about that video is the 170 pounds.

02:05:46.000 Oh, he was really skinny at one point in time.

02:05:48.000 Wow.

02:05:49.000 Yeah.

02:05:50.000 Brian, at one point in time, got real heavy and then went on a crazy fitness kick.

02:05:55.000 He got a stair climber in his house and he's fucking riding that bitch every day and he lost a ton of weight.

02:06:01.000 And he had a photo of him with his old jeans.

02:06:04.000 This is Pepsi Spice Project.

02:06:08.000 Pepsi Spice Project.

02:06:12.000 He's so silly.

02:06:13.000 But this one, man, he committed a lot of fucking time to this.

02:06:17.000 It was very funny.

02:06:18.000 Like, I remember reading it and, like, dying laughing.

02:06:20.000 I'm like, you're so ridiculous.

02:06:22.000 Well, you know, if Red Band decides fuck you, he can really elevate to, like, a 50 cent level of pettiness.

02:06:22.000 Yeah.

02:06:31.000 Oh, yeah.

02:06:32.000 Yeah, but this wasn't even fuck you.

02:06:34.000 This is just him having fun.

02:06:36.000 Did they come after him?

02:06:37.000 I think eventually they did.

02:06:38.000 But the thing was, like, they were too stupid to buy PepsiSpice.com when they had PepsiSpice.

02:06:45.000 Like, you got to buy that.

02:06:46.000 Like, who the fuck?

02:06:47.000 You should fire somebody.

02:06:49.000 Somebody in your organization is slipping because he didn't know that PepsiSpice was going to be a thing until after you released it.

02:06:54.000 So the fact that you knew that you were going to release PepsiSpice and you didn't buy up PepsiSpice.com is kind of crazy.

02:07:00.000 That is kind of crazy.

02:07:02.000 Yeah.

02:07:02.000 Kind of ridiculous.

02:07:03.000 That's just shitty planning.

02:07:05.000 That's whoever works for it.

02:07:06.000 They deserved whatever he did.

02:07:07.000 Yeah.

02:07:09.000 Yeah, I tried to.

02:07:10.000 When I tried to get, because all my social media stuff is BS, and I tried to get BS.com or BScomedian.com or something like that.

02:07:19.000 And somebody already owns it.

02:07:21.000 It was like a Canadian improv group or something.

02:07:26.000 And I was like, well, I'll buy it from you.

02:07:26.000 Oh, interesting.

02:07:29.000 And the price they said was so crazy that I was like, what?

02:07:33.000 How much?

02:07:35.000 I want to say they asked for like $10,000 or something.

02:07:38.000 And this was back when I.

02:07:39.000 That was a.

02:07:41.000 Like, I wouldn't pay that now, but back then I didn't even have it.

02:07:45.000 Right.

02:07:45.000 But I was like, what?

02:07:46.000 $10,000 is crazy for a website?

02:07:48.000 Y'all, because it wasn't like they were doing tons of business through this website.

02:07:52.000 Were they using it at all?

02:07:54.000 How much would you have paid for it?

02:07:55.000 Back then?

02:07:56.000 Yeah.

02:07:56.000 I would have given $1,000.

02:07:57.000 $1,000.

02:07:58.000 If they said two, no way.

02:08:01.000 Maybe.

02:08:02.000 Maybe $1,500 would have been the best and final.

02:08:05.000 I think today, though, all anybody does is do a search of your name and then they find your website.

02:08:10.000 Like, if somebody wants to find your website, they just search, and it's right there.

02:08:14.000 Oh, yeah.

02:08:15.000 But part of me always wants everything to be the same.

02:08:18.000 And it ended up not being that way anyway, because my TikTok is a different thing than everything else.

02:08:22.000 Everything is BS Comedian, except that.

02:08:24.000 It's interesting that you have TikTok.

02:08:25.000 Don't you worry about the terms of service, like all the access they have to your phone and access to your computers around your network and all that shit?

02:08:32.000 The Chinese?

02:08:34.000 I mean, it's not the Chinese anymore.

02:08:36.000 Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

02:08:37.000 It's like, you know, for me, I've never.

02:08:38.000 Now it's the Allison's.

02:08:39.000 I've never.

02:08:41.000 Because once Edward Snowden told us what was up, I'm like, who gives a fuck?

02:08:46.000 I care who's spying.

02:08:48.000 I'm getting spied on no matter what I'm doing.

02:08:50.000 Yeah, what the Chinese are going to do to me?

02:08:50.000 Yeah.

02:08:52.000 They're going to be like, oh, he's.

02:08:53.000 Basically, they have everything that you've ever done, and they only use it if they catch you.

02:08:59.000 So if they're looking for something, like say if you run for Congress and you do some insider trading, you do something shitty, and they come after you, then they go, oh, Brian, it's interesting because we have voicemail.

02:09:11.000 Oh, yeah.

02:09:12.000 On someone's.

02:09:13.000 What you were talking about.

02:09:14.000 They got that shit, though.

02:09:16.000 They already got it.

02:09:17.000 Somebody got arrested today from Fauci's administration.

02:09:22.000 See, that's why I'm here.

02:09:23.000 They arrested the first guy who was involved in the cover up of the lab leak theory.

02:09:29.000 And he was using a Gmail account to avoid Freedom of Information Act requests.

02:09:37.000 So he was using Gmail instead of.

02:09:39.000 This is allegedly.

02:09:40.000 I don't know what the reality of all this is, obviously.

02:09:43.000 But I'll just read about it today.

02:09:46.000 Ex Fauci top advisor indicted over alleged COVID cover up, hidden emails.

02:09:51.000 David Morenz allegedly received gifts, including wine and high end meals from a collaborator, prosecutors say.

02:09:59.000 Uh oh.

02:10:00.000 See, this is why I don't believe in incognito mode.

02:10:03.000 Yeah, it's all bullshit.

02:10:04.000 I'm like, yo, jerk off on your main and delete that shit out of your history.

02:10:08.000 Because all incognito mode is, is just you going, hey, Google, this is the stuff I don't want nobody to know about.

02:10:13.000 Just making it easier for them.

02:10:14.000 And then they put it in a file.

02:10:16.000 He's served for years as a top advisor with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, indicted and is accused.

02:10:27.000 Your butt's talking to you, dog.

02:10:32.000 Google, you can trust me.

02:10:33.000 Yeah, Google's like, hey, I know incognito mode is legit.

02:10:38.000 Incognito mode.

02:10:41.000 So he was using his personal email account to evade federal transparency laws and shield key discussions from Freedom of Information Act requests, according to the DOJ indictment unsealed.

02:10:53.000 It was also apparently bragging about it, allegedly.

02:10:57.000 Alleged that Merenz conspired with others during the pandemic to hide communications related to a controversial coronavirus research grant.

02:11:06.000 That involved collaboration with the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China.

02:11:11.000 The grant was later terminated amid scrutiny of whether COVID 19 may have originated from a lab leak.

02:11:16.000 Isn't it amazing that.

02:11:17.000 But did he.

02:11:18.000 How did they catch him, though?

02:11:19.000 Did he.

02:11:20.000 Well, I mean, they can't get Fauci, right?

02:11:23.000 This is the thing, because they wanted to get Fauci.

02:11:26.000 That's why the Biden administration gave him a pardon from 2014 on, which is really kind of wild.

02:11:34.000 Federal prosecutors also claim that Merenz received.

02:11:37.000 Gifts from a collaborator, including wine and offers of high end meals, and later took steps to justify these perks by contributing to a scientific publication supporting the theory that COVID 19 emerged naturally rather than from the Wuhan lab.

02:11:52.000 So they bribed him to get him to do this, allegedly.

02:11:59.000 He's one of, I think, a bunch of people that are going to wind up going down.

02:12:03.000 There's too many people that are pissed off.

02:12:04.000 There's too many people.

02:12:05.000 I mean, too much money got lost.

02:12:07.000 Too many people wound up dying.

02:12:08.000 Wait a minute, why do you think?

02:12:10.000 Why do you think anybody's going to go to prison, though?

02:12:12.000 They never go to prison.

02:12:13.000 Oh, you know, no.

02:12:15.000 This is a new thing.

02:12:16.000 I mean, this kind of thing is a new thing.

02:12:18.000 And there's enough people that want heads to roll.

02:12:20.000 This is a weird thing.

02:12:22.000 I mean, this is a weird thing where they shut the whole country down.

02:12:23.000 If you find out that these people actually paid to have this virus engineered and they were lying about it and hiding it and covering it up.

02:12:31.000 Oh, I see.

02:12:32.000 That's not what I took from that.

02:12:33.000 The virus came from the Wuhan lab, okay?

02:12:37.000 These people were hiding the fact that they were funding the Wuhan lab.

02:12:41.000 Mm hmm.

02:12:41.000 They were funding the creation of these labs.

02:12:44.000 He was part of a group that was funding them.

02:12:45.000 And he was also allegedly being bribed with things to promote the idea that it came from naturally, from natural spillover versus from a lab leak.

02:12:57.000 Allegedly.

02:12:58.000 Who's alleging?

02:13:00.000 Whoever the prosecutors are.

02:13:01.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:13:02.000 I don't know what they know and what they don't know.

02:13:02.000 I don't know what's going on.

02:13:04.000 But I do know that obviously there was a concerted effort to make it seem like this came naturally and not from the Wuhan lab.

02:13:11.000 There was a giant effort, which is why on YouTube, if you had posted during like 2020 about a lab leak, if you said, I think it came from a lab, they would literally pull you off of YouTube.

02:13:23.000 They would kick you off of Twitter back then.

02:13:25.000 Before Elon bought Twitter, they would kick you off Twitter if you were going on and on about it.

02:13:30.000 This is a lab leak.

02:13:31.000 We're living in them times, man.

02:13:32.000 A hypothetical could fuck your world up.

02:13:35.000 You can't even chew on it.

02:13:37.000 You can't even play devil's advocate.

02:13:39.000 Well, you can now.

02:13:40.000 You can now because of Twitter.

02:13:42.000 Because Elon bought it.

02:13:43.000 But before then, when the government was essentially in control, I mean, the government was conspiring to control and to limit him.

02:13:51.000 About Elon?

02:13:52.000 Yeah, people do all day.

02:13:54.000 All day.

02:13:55.000 Yeah, all over Twitter.

02:13:56.000 In his defense, I mean, I'm sure he blocks them.

02:14:00.000 But I mean, he can block somebody.

02:14:02.000 But you could talk, people talk mad shit about him.

02:14:04.000 Bro, that motherfucker be on Twitter way too much for how rich he is.

02:14:07.000 Not only that, how busy he is.

02:14:09.000 I don't understand it.

02:14:10.000 That boy is busy tweeting.

02:14:11.000 That's what he's doing.

02:14:12.000 But he's busy making rockets and shit.

02:14:15.000 I mean, I don't understand it.

02:14:16.000 I don't know how he has the time.

02:14:17.000 I can't do it.

02:14:18.000 But he ain't making the rockets.

02:14:19.000 He got, like, slaves or whatever.

02:14:21.000 I don't know.

02:14:23.000 I'm sure he got, like, geniuses chained to.

02:14:25.000 He does, but he's in charge of a lot of it, man.

02:14:27.000 I went to the rocket factory during the launch.

02:14:29.000 Jamie went too.

02:14:30.000 We all went and watched SpaceX launch.

02:14:33.000 We went down to the Gulf, right?

02:14:36.000 Oh, yeah, they're the main guys.

02:14:37.000 Bro, you know, they just launched, or they're going to launch on SpaceX.

02:14:41.000 They're going to launch the new telescope.

02:14:44.000 Yes.

02:14:45.000 What was it?

02:14:46.000 The Nancy Grace Roman?

02:14:47.000 The Roman.

02:14:48.000 The Roman telescope.

02:14:49.000 Ooh, this motherfucker is.

02:14:53.000 These new telescopes are kind of crazy because the more they find out, the more they find out that, like, oh, we didn't know that.

02:14:58.000 What's crazy about this one is how fast they built it and.

02:15:02.000 This is the craziest part.

02:15:03.000 It's under budget.

02:15:05.000 So they built it faster than they said for less than what they said.

02:15:08.000 And now, what is the power of this one as opposed to like the James Webb?

02:15:13.000 Apparently, so I was listening to this shit.

02:15:15.000 I was fascinated earlier, but they're saying.

02:15:20.000 So they weren't comparing it to the James Webb, they're comparing it to the Hubble.

02:15:23.000 Because the James Webb is more infrared.

02:15:28.000 This is more like the Hubble.

02:15:31.000 But.

02:15:33.000 It takes pictures at the same resolution as the Hubble, but way, way bigger.

02:15:38.000 So they were saying that there is not a screen that exists that you could display the picture on.

02:15:45.000 Yeah, it's a wide field instrument, whereas the James Telescope is near infrared.

02:15:50.000 Interesting.

02:15:51.000 So, what is this going to be able to detect that the James Webb can't?

02:15:56.000 Exoplanets is one of the big ones.

02:15:58.000 Oh, shit.

02:15:59.000 Like, way, way, way, way more than we can imagine.

02:16:02.000 Imagine if they find exoplanets and you could see lights on them.

02:16:06.000 Like a well, I don't know if that's possible.

02:16:09.000 One day, just imagine.

02:16:14.000 Imagine how crazy that would be.

02:16:16.000 So, yeah, so see how huge.

02:16:19.000 Holy shit, yeah, it compares more to the Hubble, I think, than the James Webb in the type of telescope it is.

02:16:25.000 Yeah, and just the amount of information that it can take in.

02:16:29.000 They're finding shit from the James Webb that's freaking them out.

02:16:32.000 They're finding things that make them question the age of the universe itself.

02:16:35.000 Oh, yeah, and this thing is going to.

02:16:36.000 It's going to do, like, we, because I don't know if you remember this, but the first time I was on this pod, I told you about the James Webb's.

02:16:44.000 Wait, like a year and a half before it came out.

02:16:47.000 What were you telling me about?

02:16:48.000 I was just telling you that it existed, that it was going to change everything.

02:16:51.000 Yeah.

02:16:51.000 And it has.

02:16:53.000 And this one is going to do the same thing.

02:16:54.000 The formation of galaxies is freaking them out.

02:16:57.000 They find these galaxies that are formed way too quickly, so they're confused.

02:17:02.000 And now they're starting to, like, are we wrong about how long it takes to form a galaxy, or are we wrong about the age of the universe?

02:17:10.000 Yeah, I mean, there's the.

02:17:11.000 We're wrong about everything.

02:17:12.000 I mean, we're wrong about a lot of things.

02:17:14.000 But you know the thing about scientists love being wrong.

02:17:16.000 Yeah, they do.

02:17:17.000 Well, especially these kind of scientists.

02:17:18.000 They love new discoveries.

02:17:19.000 They're like, oh, more discoveries.

02:17:21.000 They're not dogmatic.

02:17:22.000 Also, it's very difficult to argue when you get the data back from these things.

02:17:26.000 I mean, it is what it is.

02:17:27.000 We were talking about this recently that they found a black hole that's bigger than our galaxy.

02:17:35.000 Oh, well, yeah.

02:17:36.000 What?

02:17:37.000 Well, I think you were sending me that.

02:17:38.000 I think you sent me that.

02:17:39.000 Something.

02:17:40.000 Or it may not be bigger than our galaxy, or it's commensurate with our galaxy.

02:17:45.000 It's like, there's one that they found that was bigger than our entire solar system.

02:17:50.000 It was ton something.

02:17:51.000 Ton 618.

02:17:52.000 It's bigger than the solar system.

02:17:54.000 But that's one.

02:17:55.000 But there was the alpha.

02:17:56.000 What was the other one that we looked at the other day?

02:18:00.000 I know we brought it up the other day.

02:18:02.000 There's one that's even larger than that.

02:18:04.000 They keep finding these ones that are just impossibly big.

02:18:07.000 Yeah, because it would have to have been primordial, right?

02:18:09.000 It would have to have formed.

02:18:11.000 This was the question.

02:18:12.000 They said that it was so big, it didn't make sense that it had enough time to suck up enough stars to get that big.

02:18:20.000 That was the problem.

02:18:21.000 They were like, there's not enough time from the birth of the universe for this thing to exist and be this big.

02:18:27.000 Yeah, because it would have had to have started at a time where matter wasn't close enough together to even form things.

02:18:32.000 Oh, it's so fucked up.

02:18:34.000 It's so crazy.

02:18:35.000 Just the idea of a black hole bigger than all the way out to Pluto.

02:18:35.000 Yeah.

02:18:40.000 A black hole.

02:18:41.000 Here's the real sad thing.

02:18:44.000 There's a lot of things that are just not knowable to us.

02:18:47.000 Like, we just will never know.

02:18:48.000 Right.

02:18:48.000 And that's, we just got to accept that.

02:18:51.000 Like, every time you hear them talk about how we're expanding, the universe is expanding so rapidly that eventually it's going to be expanding.

02:19:01.000 So eventually it's going to be expanding close to the speed of light.

02:19:01.000 Because it's speeding up.

02:19:05.000 Right.

02:19:06.000 And so it's like, at some point, if there's still people on Earth by then, at some point, there's not going to be any stars.

02:19:14.000 We're going to be expanding so rapidly that when you look up at the sky, you're not going to see anything.

02:19:20.000 Like, they're going to think that everything outside our galaxy doesn't exist.

02:19:24.000 I mean, they're going to see stars.

02:19:25.000 They're going to see stars, but they're not going to see, they're not going to know that there's other galaxies.

02:19:25.000 They all died off.

02:19:29.000 Because the light won't be reaching us.

02:19:32.000 Wow.

02:19:33.000 So it's like, So imagine the stuff that we can't know now, that we already be on, where we could even know.

02:19:40.000 I think it's called Phoenix.

02:19:42.000 I think that was the.

02:19:45.000 It's the same thing?

02:19:46.000 I'm looking at everything about Ton 618 says it's the biggest thing they've ever found.

02:19:51.000 And how big is it exactly?

02:19:52.000 88.

02:19:53.000 It's gone.

02:19:54.000 Oh, I just had to switch it up.

02:19:56.000 88.

02:19:56.000 Just lost the.

02:20:00.000 Mass is the size of roughly 66 billion suns, I think is what that means.

02:20:07.000 I don't fucking know what that means, man.

02:20:08.000 I don't understand.

02:20:10.000 66 billion solar masses.

02:20:11.000 I'm assuming that's a total.

02:20:13.000 That's so crazy.

02:20:17.000 You can't even really imagine that.

02:20:18.000 Do you know what they said?

02:20:19.000 That there are more planets in the universe than there are seconds since the Big Bang.

02:20:31.000 Yeah, that's.

02:20:32.000 Phoenix is surrounding Ton 618.

02:20:35.000 Oh, that's what it is.

02:20:36.000 Okay, so Phoenix A.

02:20:38.000 The quasar, as a quasar, Ton 618 is believed to be the Arctic.

02:20:43.000 Active galactic nucleus at the center of a galaxy, the engine of which is a supermassive black hole feeding on intensely hot gas and matter in an accretion disk.

02:20:55.000 What does that mean?

02:20:57.000 That's the disk around the black hole that, like, when it eats something, that's where the light is coming from.

02:21:08.000 When did they discover this?

02:21:09.000 1950, 60.

02:21:10.000 The nature of this object was first noted in 57.

02:21:17.000 13 years later, 1970, discovered emissions from it.

02:21:20.000 You want to get it really get freaked out?

02:21:22.000 Jamie, look up the great attractor.

02:21:25.000 What is that?

02:21:27.000 So, this scary space is so.

02:21:31.000 So, there is something on the other side of us that we can't see, and everything is moving in that direction, including us, and we don't know what's pulling it.

02:21:41.000 What hidden galaxies discovered in the zone of avoidance.

02:21:48.000 What does that mean?

02:21:49.000 The great attractor defeats dark energy?

02:21:52.000 What?

02:21:54.000 What is it?

02:21:54.000 Now, look up a.

02:21:56.000 The Great Attractor is a region of gravitational attraction in intergalactic space and the apparent central gravitational point of the Lanakia supercluster of galaxies that includes the Milky Way galaxy as well as about 100,000 other galaxies.

02:22:13.000 The observed attraction suggests a localized concentration of mass having the order of 10 to the 16 solar masses.

02:22:21.000 However, it's obscured by the Milky Way's galactic plane lying above the zone of avoidance so that.

02:22:28.000 Invisible light wavelengths, the great attractor is difficult to observe directly.

02:22:33.000 Bro, there's no way you can know everything.

02:22:36.000 It's in the attraction.

02:22:37.000 There's too much information.

02:22:38.000 So we know everything's being sucked towards it.

02:22:40.000 What is that?

02:22:42.000 We don't know.

02:22:42.000 And it's sucking all these galaxies, all these stupid galaxies.

02:22:45.000 Everything's moving towards it, and we can't tell what it is.

02:22:48.000 Imagine if it's your job to know what's going on in the universe.

02:22:53.000 Hey, Brian, write me a paper on what's going on in the universe.

02:22:56.000 Like everything?

02:22:58.000 Everything?

02:22:59.000 It would never end.

02:23:00.000 There's.

02:23:01.000 With every new satellite that gets launched that can see into the space, every new telescope that gets utilized, like we're fucked.

02:23:09.000 Here's the other thing, though, and I could be wrong about this.

02:23:12.000 I mean, I'm wrong about a lot of shit, but I think that it's actually physically impossible for you to know even a fraction of the things because any device that could store that amount of information would collapse into a black hole before you could get anywhere near storing enough.

02:23:31.000 So your brain couldn't even hold.

02:23:34.000 Even a percentage of a percentage of a percentage of the information.

02:23:37.000 That makes sense.

02:23:38.000 We have pea brains.

02:23:40.000 Yeah.

02:23:40.000 There's no way we could have that information.

02:23:42.000 The South Pole, what is this?

02:23:44.000 Flat earthers are going to love this.

02:23:45.000 Okay.

02:23:46.000 South Pole Wall, or the South Pole Wall, is a massive cosmic structure formed by a giant wall of galaxies, a galaxy filament that extends across at least 1.37 billion light years of space.

02:24:03.000 The nearest light, and consequently part of which, is aged at about a half a billion light years.

02:24:09.000 The structure and its astronomical angle is dense in five known places, including one very near the celestial South Pole, and is, according to the international team of astronomers that discovered the South Pole Wall, the largest contiguous feature in the local volume and comparable to the Sloan Great Wall at half the distance.

02:24:30.000 Okay, you just like.

02:24:31.000 I just were blocked by walls, that's all I was getting at.

02:24:33.000 Aha.

02:24:34.000 Maybe that's why they're confused.

02:24:35.000 Maybe that's what they think the Antarctic Wall is.

02:24:37.000 Or maybe the rest of the galaxy knows that we're a problem and they got us locked in.

02:24:41.000 Duh.

02:24:42.000 You know, perhaps we got we gotten out before and the you fucked the galaxy up.

02:24:46.000 Maybe back in the Egyptian days, maybe that's what they were doing.

02:24:51.000 Something you see that they you've seen that they found underneath the pyramids, right?

02:24:55.000 No, you haven't seen that.

02:24:56.000 I don't think so.

02:24:57.000 What oh, you don't know?

02:24:57.000 What do you mean?

02:24:58.000 Okay, oh, you don't know?

02:25:04.000 Oh, you don't know?

02:25:05.000 You should sell t shirts.

02:25:06.000 Did it hurt?

02:25:07.000 Oh, you don't know.

02:25:08.000 Um, they found these structures, they use oh god, what is it called?

02:25:13.000 Radio tomography.

02:25:15.000 Satellite radio tomography, and it's this ground penetrating shit that they've found these structures underneath the pyramids that go like over a kilometer deep into the earth.

02:25:28.000 Like pillars, giant columns that are surrounded by coils that go down into the ground.

02:25:28.000 What?

02:25:34.000 And they've used this technology successfully to detect things that they know exist, like certain voids that are in pyramids and certain chambers and certain temples that they know exist underground.

02:25:46.000 And they've accurately described these things, including.

02:25:49.000 They use this radio tomography on.

02:25:53.000 There's a mountain in Italy that has a particle collider at the bottom of the mountain, over a kilometer into the mountain.

02:25:58.000 They built this particle collider.

02:25:59.000 And this thing, this information, this technology shows an accurate image of what this particle collider looks like.

02:26:09.000 The exact dimensions show it exact.

02:26:12.000 And so they're using this underneath the pyramid.

02:26:14.000 And this guy, Filippo Biondi, this Italian scientist that I had on the podcast, explained that they've used this.

02:26:22.000 Underneath the pyramids, and there's these undeniable structures that exist that go down into the ground, like very deep into the ground.

02:26:29.000 So the pyramids are just the top of this immense structure.

02:26:33.000 When you said Italian scientist, I just keep thinking about him taking a nap in the middle of the night.

02:26:37.000 Eating pasta, drinking wine.

02:26:39.000 Eventually, we're figuring it out.

02:26:41.000 So you're saying that there are machines down there or something?

02:26:44.000 They don't know what it is.

02:26:45.000 So they haven't really dug into the ground and investigated it fully yet.

02:26:49.000 But they know that these sensors, this technology is detecting.

02:26:53.000 These structures show Jamie, show them what it looks like.

02:26:56.000 So, show them the 3D model.

02:26:58.000 They made a 3D model of it.

02:26:59.000 I'm shocked that we can't get in there and just go.

02:27:03.000 That's what they think it looks like.

02:27:07.000 Okay, what imagine if that's accurate?

02:27:10.000 If there really are columns underneath the pyramid, I mean, that just seems so impossible.

02:27:15.000 And there's heat.

02:27:15.000 It seems impossible.

02:27:17.000 No, I don't think it's heat.

02:27:19.000 I don't think that's what there's a water table underneath there, too.

02:27:22.000 And they think it has something to do with the use of the pyramid.

02:27:25.000 In the first place, that it wasn't simply just a structure, that it had some sort of a use, and that these columns were doing something, and that it was probably some sort of a technology.

02:27:36.000 Look how nuts that is.

02:27:38.000 Megastructures underneath the pyramids.

02:27:41.000 Could you go back to what that one said with the.

02:27:43.000 Yeah, right there.

02:27:44.000 Look at that.

02:27:46.000 Alleged megastructures under Egypt's pyramids, sparking fascination and fierce skepticism worldwide.

02:27:53.000 You lose something?

02:27:54.000 No, I'll take it back.

02:27:55.000 So if it's true, that's nuts.

02:27:58.000 Yeah, I mean, that sounds absolutely fucking crazy to me.

02:28:02.000 I'm just thinking about the work that it would take to even do that.

02:28:06.000 Right.

02:28:06.000 And what kind of a society did that?

02:28:09.000 And for what purpose?

02:28:10.000 And it's at least 4,500 years old.

02:28:12.000 At least.

02:28:13.000 At least.

02:28:14.000 And so apparently, those ancient pyramids were before we thought they were.

02:28:14.000 Yeah.

02:28:21.000 Like, I thought, like, the modern Egyptians built those pyramids.

02:28:25.000 No.

02:28:26.000 The pyramids were ancient to them.

02:28:28.000 Well, that seems to be the case with a lot.

02:28:29.000 That's the labyrinth that's underneath, that's outside of the pyramids.

02:28:35.000 This is another insane structure that they found that Herodotus documented way back in, you know, thousands of years ago.

02:28:42.000 But this is all Ben Van Kirkwick from his Uncharted X YouTube channel sort of described all this and explained it.

02:28:51.000 And they've used scans, ground penetrating radar to show that there's this immense structure that Herodotus described as being greater than Giza itself that's underneath the ground.

02:29:02.000 And inside the labyrinth, there's a 40 meter long metallic object that's shaped like a tic tac.

02:29:11.000 So, whatever the fuck that is, who knows?

02:29:13.000 But I think there's a lot of shit from that part of the world that's going to show us that civilization at one point in time had reached a very high level, like probably even higher than we are today.

02:29:25.000 And then it was wiped out, and then we're the rebuild.

02:29:28.000 Well, they didn't cure syphilis.

02:29:31.000 Actually, bro, you know there's a new syphilis?

02:29:33.000 I heard from Michigan or some shit.

02:29:36.000 Isn't it?

02:29:37.000 From Washington.

02:29:38.000 Probably from Michigan.

02:29:40.000 No, it was in Washington.

02:29:41.000 Washington?

02:29:42.000 Yeah, the dude.

02:29:44.000 A new kind of syphilis?

02:29:46.000 The dude had two, he had two syphilis.

02:29:49.000 Two different.

02:29:50.000 He had two ones.

02:29:51.000 What a dirty pig he must have been.

02:29:53.000 And they, and they, like the same way that COVID was going through, like genetic recombination.

02:29:58.000 So, like, they were exchanging traits inside his body.

02:30:02.000 Oh, boy.

02:30:03.000 And creating a super syphilis.

02:30:04.000 Yeah.

02:30:04.000 And then, and then, and then, and then what happened is a bunch of old ladies kept going to the ER and they all kept describing the same man.

02:30:12.000 And they, he spread it.

02:30:14.000 He was a super spreader.

02:30:15.000 He was spreading it.

02:30:16.000 And he went to the ER because it, Because apparently, like this, whatever strain he has, it just causes you to go blind super quickly and all these things.

02:30:16.000 Yeah.

02:30:26.000 And there's debate about whether he knew he was purposely spreading it and didn't give a fuck.

02:30:31.000 Because they told him, Yeah, you got to come back.

02:30:34.000 He just kept fucking.

02:30:35.000 He just kept fucking and didn't go back.

02:30:37.000 And then he went, he didn't go back until he had another emergency and he went to a different emergency room.

02:30:42.000 How many times in human history has that been the cause of a plague?

02:30:45.000 Some guy.

02:30:46.000 So somebody wouldn't stop fucking?

02:30:47.000 It wouldn't stop fucking and just won't tell anybody.

02:30:49.000 I mean, how.

02:30:50.000 How are you going to be mad?

02:30:51.000 You can't be mad at it.

02:30:52.000 There's five cases of rare ocular syphilis, which can cause vision impairment or blindness, identified in southwest Michigan.

02:31:00.000 Michigan!

02:31:01.000 Between March and July 2022, all linked to a single heterosexual male partner.

02:31:07.000 Wow.

02:31:09.000 All five women, age 40 to 60, he wasn't picky, reported having sexual contact with the same man.

02:31:15.000 This guy was a freak.

02:31:17.000 Yeah, bro.

02:31:17.000 He was out here fucking.

02:31:18.000 Fucking people blind.

02:31:21.000 Because his was crazy.

02:31:22.000 Imagine leaving the emergency room.

02:31:24.000 Because the first time he was in the emergency room, they thought he had herpes.

02:31:27.000 Wow.

02:31:28.000 And they gave him something for that and he left.

02:31:29.000 But imagine coming from the emergency room from an STD scare and going right back to fucking.

02:31:34.000 And going blind.

02:31:35.000 All patients were hospitalized and successfully treated with intravenous penicillin.

02:31:39.000 No further cases were linked to this man after this treatment.

02:31:43.000 Woo.

02:31:43.000 All right, Brian.

02:31:45.000 Let's wrap this up with super syphilis.

02:31:47.000 Mm hmm.

02:31:48.000 Anything going on?

02:31:49.000 When is.

02:31:50.000 You're going to put your special.

02:31:51.000 I'm going to do that later, yeah.

02:31:52.000 When are you going to put that out?

02:31:55.000 I think it's going to be summertime, July.

02:31:57.000 Okay.

02:31:57.000 I'm going to put my special up on YouTube.

02:31:59.000 Come back until tomorrow.

02:32:00.000 Yeah, we'll do that.

02:32:01.000 I'll see you tonight.

02:32:02.000 All right, yeah.

02:32:02.000 BrianSimpsonComedy.com.

02:32:04.000 BrianSimpsonComedy.com.

02:32:05.000 Goodbye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - April 29, 2026

Joe Rogan Experience #2491 - Brian Simpson

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