The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2495 - Tim Burchett

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00:00:10.000 Good to see you, sir.

00:00:14.000 Thank you for having me, brothers.

00:00:16.000 Big honor.

00:00:16.000 Thank you.

00:00:17.000 An honor for me, too.

00:00:17.000 Very excited about this.

00:00:19.000 Very excited to talk to you.

00:00:20.000 There's so many different things to discuss.

00:00:22.000 So, do you know what is going to be released?

00:00:27.000 So, supposedly, this is the week of some kind of disclosure.

00:00:31.000 Can you give us any insight as to what's going on?

00:00:33.000 Oddly enough, I got a call.

00:00:36.000 That tomorrow at 3 o'clock, I'm going to be briefed over the phone by, I think one of Hed Seth's top dogs is going to go over some stuff with me that they've got.

00:00:49.000 And I have no earthly idea.

00:00:52.000 I don't want everybody to get their hopes up.

00:00:54.000 I don't have a lot of faith in our government.

00:00:57.000 President Trump's always been great to me.

00:00:58.000 He's never lied to me.

00:00:59.000 But I don't know that he knows the right questions to ask and the right people to talk to because, I mean, this thing's been covered up at least since 1947.

00:01:08.000 And I just don't think.

00:01:10.000 They're going to, they don't give up that easy.

00:01:13.000 The war pimps at the Pentagon and everybody else, they just don't give up that easy.

00:01:18.000 How did you come to understand all this stuff?

00:01:21.000 Like, what was your understanding of it before you got into government?

00:01:25.000 I had pretty cool parents.

00:01:27.000 Right now, they would, Daddy was an old World War II Marine, and Mama flew an airplane during the Second World War.

00:01:32.000 I mean, they were badasses. 0.98

00:01:34.000 Then they were good Christian people, but my daddy was a stone cold killer. 0.99

00:01:38.000 I mean, he was the real deal. 0.74

00:01:40.000 He was on Peleliu and Okinawa.

00:01:43.000 And of course, Mama's oldest brother, Roy, got killed fighting the Nazis.

00:01:43.000 In the Marine Corps.

00:01:48.000 And Mama did her part, just a little country girl, didn't have electricity until she's a senior in high school.

00:01:53.000 So I've kind of lived the American dream.

00:01:55.000 But they would let me, you know, they'd let me get bloodied up and then they would patch me up and let me go.

00:02:02.000 You know, I could ride my bike to the library or the library if you're from East Tennessee.

00:02:09.000 And it was, you know, about a mile from the house.

00:02:11.000 And they'd go in there and they'd have these books set up.

00:02:14.000 And they had all this stuff on.

00:02:16.000 You know, this wild stuff, and there's a book on UFOs, and I just picked it up and started reading it.

00:02:20.000 I probably wasn't, I don't know, seven or eight years old, and I just always followed it.

00:02:25.000 You know, the magazine articles, and I'd go out at night and hope to see a UFO.

00:02:30.000 Never did, never have until some of the briefings I've been in.

00:02:35.000 But, and then I'm walking down the street, and can I mention another news source?

00:02:42.000 Is that okay?

00:02:42.000 I was walking down the street, and TMZ was there was a guy there, this black fella, his name's Colin, he's a buddy of mine.

00:02:49.000 He doesn't work for them anymore, but he was filming.

00:02:52.000 And he said, Hey, Congressman, you want to make a comment on the UFO thing?

00:02:55.000 He couldn't get anybody to comment.

00:02:56.000 And I said, Well, sure.

00:02:57.000 I said, They're going to tell you they're going to issue your report, and it's going to be loaded, and everybody's freaking out.

00:03:04.000 It's going to be the greatest thing.

00:03:05.000 It's going to be total disclosure.

00:03:06.000 And then they're going to put something out.

00:03:08.000 It looked like somebody shot it with a dadgum 12 gauge.

00:03:10.000 It's just going to have holes, and it's all redacted.

00:03:13.000 And I said, And they're not going to put it out this week.

00:03:15.000 It'll be weeks later.

00:03:16.000 And that's exactly what they did.

00:03:18.000 They had a report I felt like had some.

00:03:21.000 Information in that was new to the public, and they did what they always do.

00:03:28.000 They hid it, covered it up.

00:03:30.000 And then everybody saw that interview, and I said, On it, I said, That's the one we were talking about bases in the ocean?

00:03:39.000 No, A different one.

00:03:41.000 This is totally different.

00:03:42.000 This is just out on the street corner.

00:03:44.000 And then I started getting calls from people literally all over the world.

00:03:47.000 I mean, I've talked to legislators in Russia over this issue, and then people.

00:03:53.000 People start just stop me on street corners and say, Hey, man, I really appreciate you going for disclosure.

00:03:58.000 I have doctors tell me this.

00:03:59.000 I have lawyers, engineers.

00:04:01.000 I have military people that have seen things that they can't describe.

00:04:05.000 I've had members of Congress.

00:04:06.000 You know, there's a few bullies in Congress.

00:04:08.000 They'll make fun of me and say smart aleck stuff, but put it out there to your people.

00:04:12.000 It's over 55% of the American population feels like we're not alone.

00:04:16.000 I mean, seriously, you go out there and look at those.

00:04:18.000 Every night, my dogs, they got to take a leak.

00:04:20.000 They never want to take a leak at like 9 o'clock.

00:04:22.000 It's always 3 o'clock in the morning.

00:04:24.000 I look at those dadgum stars, man, and the light from those stars left there before the time of Christ.

00:04:30.000 And the light from some of those stars, the stars have already combusted.

00:04:34.000 I mean, they're not even there anymore.

00:04:36.000 You know, light years to us is something that's hard to understand.

00:04:40.000 And we are more, we are just, you know, one grain of sand on a billion beaches.

00:04:45.000 And I still don't think we're the best that God can do.

00:04:48.000 I mean, you know, I just can't imagine we're his shining, we're the one they put on the mantle.

00:04:54.000 Oh, look, he made humans.

00:04:56.000 Well, you know, we've kind of screwed things up. 1.00

00:04:59.000 So, you know, and I'm, And I read my Bible, and a lot of the Christian folks knock me. 1.00

00:05:05.000 They talk about demons. 1.00

00:05:06.000 And I say, well, I'm good with Jesus.

00:05:08.000 I'm not worrying about demons.

00:05:09.000 I'm not going to worry about that.

00:05:11.000 I don't think they're demons.

00:05:12.000 Why would they?

00:05:13.000 They don't have to fly around in some craft to, you know, it's just, to me, it's hard to imagine.

00:05:19.000 But the underwater thing was I was getting briefed by a former admiral who came into my office.

00:05:27.000 And Joe, it was a very friendly conversation.

00:05:31.000 And I'm always a little couched because, or a little.

00:05:34.000 I hold back a little bit because I think there's a psyop going on with some of these departments.

00:05:40.000 I was briefed by one of our alphabet agencies not long ago, and the final thing was somebody said, Well, why don't we get more information?

00:05:48.000 He says, We just don't have the funding for that, Congressman.

00:05:53.000 And I know they're reading the polling data, and they're saying, Well, let's shake loose the money tree for us.

00:05:59.000 And that's part of it, too.

00:06:00.000 And I warn people about that.

00:06:02.000 But I guess, in a nutshell, that's pretty much it.

00:06:06.000 So, when you first got in, how long have you been in government for?

00:06:10.000 Well, eight years in Congress.

00:06:12.000 I was in our state legislature in Tennessee 16 years, and then I was county mayor for eight years.

00:06:17.000 So, was it when you got into Congress that you first started getting inside information about what's going on?

00:06:23.000 Yeah.

00:06:23.000 So, was that eight years ago, or when was that?

00:06:26.000 Probably six years ago, five or six.

00:06:28.000 Let's see.

00:06:29.000 It was during Trump's first administration, so it would have been about eight years ago.

00:06:32.000 And do you remember what it was?

00:06:34.000 Do you remember how you were introduced to it?

00:06:37.000 Yeah.

00:06:39.000 We just raised total hell about it.

00:06:39.000 Yeah.

00:06:42.000 Why?

00:06:43.000 Because it's a cover up.

00:06:44.000 Nobody would give us information.

00:06:46.000 What made you think it was a cover up?

00:06:47.000 Why did you think that this was a cover up?

00:06:48.000 I guess I just don't trust the government.

00:06:50.000 I've been in government most of my life and I just don't trust it.

00:06:53.000 I understand that, but was there something that led you to want to pursue this particular subject?

00:06:58.000 No, just it kind of pursued me after I did that TMZ interview.

00:07:02.000 People started calling me and then I would get phone calls from people.

00:07:08.000 Fairly recently, right?

00:07:09.000 No, That wasn't.

00:07:11.000 That was one that was what started it all.

00:07:12.000 It was seven or eight years ago.

00:07:14.000 I'm sorry.

00:07:15.000 I didn't explain it very well.

00:07:16.000 No, that's true.

00:07:18.000 But you had an interest from the time you were a child and then getting into government.

00:07:22.000 What was the first introduction where you had an idea that there's something going on?

00:07:29.000 When I started asking questions and we just get to run around.

00:07:34.000 What kind of questions?

00:07:35.000 Like, what is this?

00:07:39.000 Where are you seeing these things?

00:07:40.000 And we would get people.

00:07:43.000 I had an interesting meeting in my office with some people that were nationally known, and they came by to see me, and they just wanted to talk to me about it.

00:07:55.000 And they started telling me things.

00:07:57.000 And then I had a group come to my house.

00:07:59.000 I said, Y'all just come by the office in D.C. and we'll talk.

00:08:02.000 And they said, We don't feel comfortable doing that.

00:08:05.000 And they came by the house and they said, Can we hook up to your television?

00:08:09.000 And I said, Well, sure.

00:08:10.000 And they hooked up the computer to it and they were showing me objects that were flying at.

00:08:17.000 And granted, I'm not an astrophysicist by any stretch of imagination, but they were showing me things that were flying at speeds that were just.

00:08:28.000 Nothing compares.

00:08:29.000 And the angles that they were taking would literally, and I've said this before, and it grosses people out, but it would turn you or me into a catch up package.

00:08:36.000 I mean, you go this way, and then boom, you're going this way.

00:08:40.000 And we have no capability of any of it.

00:08:42.000 And now I've been briefed so many times from different groups.

00:08:50.000 We scrub missions because these things are out there.

00:08:56.000 And then we tell everybody that's involved to keep your mouth shut.

00:08:59.000 And then if you're a pilot, And you come back and say, Hey, I've seen this.

00:09:04.000 You immediately pulled off the flight line.

00:09:06.000 I'm not a pilot or military person, but flight line is what I call it.

00:09:10.000 They're not able to fly and they're given a psych evaluation and they're given an eight hour debriefing.

00:09:16.000 I've been told by some of the officers that have been involved it's really just an interrogation.

00:09:20.000 And then you got that hanging on your record.

00:09:23.000 So it influences them to stop.

00:09:24.000 They just keep their mouth shut.

00:09:26.000 I literally had a guy tell me, Joe, that he said his recorder.

00:09:32.000 It was an older style plane, and he said it.

00:09:34.000 I think he said it was close to his right knee.

00:09:37.000 And when he got that on his recorder, he started smashing it with his right knee to discombobulate it so that it wasn't even because he didn't want anything.

00:09:47.000 He did not need it.

00:09:48.000 He saw it.

00:09:50.000 He didn't need it on his record.

00:09:52.000 Even if he saw it and it was on a dadgum tape, they dragged you in.

00:09:56.000 And so, you know, myself, Luna, and Matt Gates went down to Florida to be briefed by Matt.

00:10:06.000 He was told that.

00:10:07.000 Some pilots had seen some things and they had some photographs.

00:10:11.000 And so we go down there and again, we go in.

00:10:15.000 I told Matt, I said, Matt, they don't give up this stuff easy.

00:10:18.000 We're going to go down there and I have a bad feeling they're going to turn us out.

00:10:22.000 Well, we went down there and Joe, they briefed us on some very, very serious issues that they were dealing with, with the Chinese and communist infiltration and things going on.

00:10:38.000 Around Florida in the ocean.

00:10:41.000 But they didn't ever have the pilots in.

00:10:44.000 Matt said, Hey, I understand all this, but this is not why we came down here.

00:10:49.000 And Matt, you can say what you want to about Matt Gaetz, but he's a great orator and he's a great attorney.

00:10:55.000 And he just started flailing on them.

00:10:58.000 And he told them, He said, Here's what's going to happen. 0.60

00:11:01.000 You're going to jerk me around.

00:11:02.000 And I said, I'm going to subpoena you all. 0.94

00:11:04.000 We're going to call you all back to Washington.

00:11:06.000 And I remember looking over in the corner at the suits, and I said, And I called them spooks because they were obviously some sort of military intelligence or CIA.

00:11:16.000 And I leaned over to Matt and I said, The spooks are getting nervous, brother, because they were kind of shifting around.

00:11:21.000 And they shut us down.

00:11:22.000 They said, Nope, we're not going to do it.

00:11:24.000 And Matt said, I'm calling whoever Big Air Force was.

00:11:29.000 Matt was on one of the military committees, and he called.

00:11:34.000 And an hour later, they stuck us up in this room and had microphones under the desk.

00:11:40.000 I remember Luna reached under and unplugged them.

00:11:42.000 And They had a nice fruit tray that you paid for at taxpayers.

00:11:47.000 Thank you very much. 0.99

00:11:49.000 So I went and did it like a jackass eating salt briars. 0.98

00:11:52.000 I was just eating. 0.99

00:11:53.000 I didn't care.

00:11:54.000 And so finally, it came back in an hour, and the guy says, I don't know who you all called, but you're going to get your briefing.

00:12:01.000 They're bringing the pilots in.

00:12:02.000 And literally, they brought these pilots in, and they were in their flight gear, and they had just come out of the planes, and they were the ones.

00:12:10.000 And they described things, and it's been reported now, it's been reported in public, but it was these craft that were hovering for extended periods of time and could shoot straight up at incredible speeds that we don't have capabilities of doing.

00:12:24.000 And those are the kind of things.

00:12:26.000 And two, they're.

00:12:28.000 This was military people.

00:12:29.000 These were top people.

00:12:31.000 These are like the equivalent, not, you know, just some of our top people.

00:12:35.000 And I know folks are going to say, well, it's probably the Russians. 0.51

00:12:39.000 Well, if it's the Russians, dadgummit, they wouldn't be tied up down in Ukraine for how many years? 0.58

00:12:44.000 And Putin's such an egomaniac, he'd fly a saucer to Pennsylvania Avenue, get out and probably wrestle Trump in the front yard or something, you know, bare chested, ride a unicorn or something. 0.64

00:12:55.000 I don't know. 0.68

00:12:56.000 If it's China, they'd own us even more than they already do. 0.90

00:12:59.000 And then people say, well, it's ours, Birch. 0.89

00:13:01.000 They don't want to release it.

00:13:01.000 It's just ours.

00:13:03.000 Well, think about this.

00:13:05.000 President Trump, and he should have, and I give him great credit for that.

00:13:08.000 That pilot that got knocked down over in Iran, we spent untold millions of dollars to bring that cat home, and we should have, because it sends a message to our enemies and it sends a message to our fighting men and women that we're not going to leave you behind, as many presidents have done many times.

00:13:22.000 There's no way on God's green earth that they would risk a half a billion dollar aircraft with something flying around it.

00:13:31.000 And.

00:13:32.000 And risk those guys' life and all that training to put these guys in harm's way.

00:13:38.000 And that's exactly what they're doing.

00:13:39.000 I mean, these things are buzzing cockpits.

00:13:42.000 It's not an everyday occurrence, it's in certain areas.

00:13:45.000 And that's where the deep water thing comes in, the deep water bases.

00:13:50.000 I was sort of misquoted.

00:13:52.000 I was just telling what I was told.

00:13:55.000 But it makes a lot of sense that these deep water areas are where we see a lot of sightings.

00:14:01.000 And we've seen craft underwater.

00:14:06.000 That do something over 200 miles an hour that are on the sonar pickup are as big as a dadgum football field.

00:14:13.000 The best we have, we don't have anything big as a football field, maybe in length, but not underwater anyway.

00:14:20.000 And, you know, the best we can do is maybe upper 30 miles an hour, maybe something like that.

00:14:25.000 I don't know.

00:14:26.000 But 200 miles an hour, that's just out of the question.

00:14:29.000 And these things don't have a heat signature.

00:14:32.000 And I hope, though, that they release some of the Footage that we've seen and some that we haven't, that we've been rumored that's out there.

00:14:42.000 What I'm afraid, though, it's going to get so sanitized and it's going to get cleaned up.

00:14:46.000 I mean, even Obama, he said, Yeah, there are aliens out there.

00:14:49.000 And then in a recent interview I saw just last week or so, he's backed up on that.

00:14:54.000 I was just kidding.

00:14:56.000 Well, I saw Trump when he was getting interviewed.

00:14:56.000 Yeah.

00:14:59.000 He said Obama shouldn't have said that because it's classified.

00:15:02.000 He goes, But I might release it, I might make it unclassified.

00:15:06.000 And I hope he does.

00:15:07.000 And I told him that.

00:15:08.000 I talked to the president about it and I said, you know, Mr. President, it's like layers of an onion.

00:15:13.000 Just keep peeling it back.

00:15:14.000 And I hope he does because.

00:15:16.000 Well, he might be the only one that would ever do it.

00:15:18.000 The only one with enough guts.

00:15:19.000 Yeah.

00:15:19.000 Because he's not beholden to that bunch.

00:15:21.000 All they've done is try to bury him.

00:15:23.000 Right.

00:15:24.000 Yeah.

00:15:24.000 So when these men came to you and they hooked up the computer to your television and showed you, did they tell you why they wanted you to see this stuff?

00:15:32.000 They just thought I should know about it because I was asking the right questions.

00:15:36.000 And then shortly after that, I was in.

00:15:38.000 I'm sorry.

00:15:39.000 Were you told that you were not supposed to tell people about this?

00:15:43.000 No, but it's interesting.

00:15:44.000 I had that deep throat moment, you know, not the porn version, the Richard Nixon moment, you know, where I was walking in the tunnel one day and a person came up to me.

00:15:57.000 It's always a friend.

00:15:58.000 It's always a friend that does this and said, it was just the strangest conversation and I'll never forget it because he said, Birchett, he said, you know, you're really pushing on this UFO thing.

00:16:08.000 And I could, yeah, yeah, I am.

00:16:10.000 He said, do you really think we need to do this?

00:16:13.000 And I just kept listening.

00:16:15.000 When I was a young man, I'd have run my mouth and said, I'll shut up.

00:16:17.000 But I listened to what he said.

00:16:18.000 He said, He said, I mean, you know, this could upset the religious community and all this other.

00:16:24.000 I mean, some of this stuff just left unknown, you know?

00:16:27.000 And I said, no, it's not.

00:16:29.000 The government has no right to decide what I can and cannot understand or handle or see.

00:16:36.000 And to me, and every time, Joe, let me tell you what they're going to do.

00:16:40.000 I had a two page bill for disclosure, and Chuck Schumer had one that was 60 pages, I believe.

00:16:47.000 And he modeled his after the Kennedy assassination.

00:16:51.000 Committee release, which we're over 60 years into that, and we still don't, they haven't released everything on President Kennedy getting shot.

00:17:00.000 And that's what they wanted to model this dadgum thing after.

00:17:03.000 Mine was two pages long.

00:17:04.000 Of course, mine didn't get anywhere.

00:17:05.000 I was told by a member of leadership, they come and sit with me.

00:17:08.000 I call it Center's Row.

00:17:09.000 I sit on the back row, second from the back on the aisle.

00:17:13.000 Everybody gets in trouble, they come sit with me sometimes.

00:17:16.000 And I was told by a member of leadership that the intelligence community, Was unhappy with what I was doing.

00:17:25.000 And then I got a phone call from a former member of President Trump's staff who told me that I needed to, I forget his exact terminology, but he said, Oh, he said, you need to get some bodies around you.

00:17:40.000 And so, you know, I don't know what that means.

00:17:43.000 I mean, I'm the 435th most powerful member of Congress, Joe.

00:17:46.000 So, you know, they bump me off and it's going to be like, there'll be one tear shed on the House floor.

00:17:52.000 That'll be because I owed somebody $10 and I didn't pay them back.

00:17:55.000 And then they'll move on to the next guy.

00:17:56.000 So, Well, I'm sure you're aware of this narrative about the missing scientists and scientists that have turned up dead and been killed.

00:18:03.000 100%.

00:18:05.000 I think I have a theory on that.

00:18:05.000 That's real.

00:18:08.000 All right.

00:18:09.000 I know it's a little dangerous to throw these things out, but and I was on maybe Fox one time and I just came up with this.

00:18:16.000 I say, say your family's mobbed up, okay, and y'all own a nice Italian restaurant and it's world renowned and you're busting at the seams, you know, and you're franchising and putting out cookbooks and everything.

00:18:28.000 You got this one chef who's.

00:18:30.000 Who's the kingpin of all of it?

00:18:32.000 But you're afraid he's talking to your competitors.

00:18:35.000 Now, you don't bump him off. 0.96

00:18:38.000 What you do is you rough up a few of the busboys, and that sends a quick dadgum message that you need to shut your mouth.

00:18:46.000 And timing is everything, and nothing happens by accident in Washington, D.C.

00:18:51.000 To me, I think the timing is uncanny.

00:18:57.000 You've had these hearings in Washington, you have a president that says he's going to release stuff.

00:19:02.000 And all in that same time frame, before and after that, you're having some of these high ranking officials disappear.

00:19:09.000 And to me, nobody disappears in this country unless they want to disappear.

00:19:14.000 You know, there's cameras everywhere.

00:19:16.000 And it just, to me, it's just, it reeks of a deep state sewer.

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00:20:39.000 Yeah, I thought one of the things that I thought of is one of the subjects that these people were all working on different things, but They're working on alternative energy sources.

00:20:50.000 Yeah, that's the.

00:20:53.000 I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.

00:20:54.000 But that's what ties them together, I think.

00:20:54.000 No, it's right.

00:20:57.000 And two, one of them's spouse said, Oh, my husband or wife or whatever never did anything with UFOs.

00:21:05.000 Well, they don't talk about it.

00:21:06.000 It's actually a pretty close knit group.

00:21:09.000 And I always remember this I knock on doors.

00:21:11.000 That's how I got elected.

00:21:12.000 Nobody really does.

00:21:13.000 There's not a lot of people like me that come from a family of public educators that get elected to Congress.

00:21:18.000 Most of my contributions are.

00:21:18.000 All right.

00:21:20.000 $25, and somebody wraps a Bible verse around it and tells me they're praying for me.

00:21:24.000 The big boys, they're always for me the day after the election, all right?

00:21:27.000 They always, oh, Gummy got you a check, and we were with you all along.

00:21:30.000 I always say, yeah, I felt it right there towards the end, you know.

00:21:33.000 But I'm knocking on this guy's door down in Farragut, and he's putting his flag out.

00:21:39.000 He's an older gentleman.

00:21:41.000 And I said, hey, brother, did you serve?

00:21:43.000 And he said, no, you know, I mean, it's East Tennessee, you know, and he kind of held his head down, no, I didn't.

00:21:48.000 I didn't.

00:21:49.000 And I said, He said, I worked at Oak Ridge.

00:21:52.000 And I said, Brother, I said, my daddy was on Okinawa when they dropped the bomb. 0.86

00:21:56.000 They were getting ready to invade mainland Japan.

00:21:58.000 I said, if my mom and daddy were alive today, they would hug you because they put it together.

00:22:05.000 And he told me, he said, Tim, before I left, he said, a funny thing.

00:22:09.000 He said, My wife worked there too.

00:22:12.000 And, you know, she worked on a, I think he said he was a fuse or something.

00:22:18.000 And she worked on the timer on the atomic bomb.

00:22:21.000 He said, I didn't know what she did the entire time that we were working there.

00:22:25.000 That's called compartmentalization, and that's what you have here.

00:22:28.000 And if I can elaborate just a little bit more, you're familiar with FOIA.

00:22:34.000 I mean, you're a member of the Media Freedom of Information Act.

00:22:37.000 It means I can request from a federal agency, the FBI, they probably wouldn't give it to me, but any information.

00:22:44.000 But I can't go after like Ford Motor Company, okay?

00:22:47.000 So what they've done is they've given this information, if it's craft, if it's material, if it's bodies, I don't know.

00:22:54.000 I have my suspicions, but they've given them to.

00:22:56.000 There's four or five major contractors that you see that are always the ones that are putting it out there.

00:23:02.000 They're missile defense systems.

00:23:04.000 They're coming up with this new metallurgy, these new propulsion systems.

00:23:08.000 And I think that whatever they had, they gave to them early on, and they're the ones, but they're so far disconnected from the government that I can't touch it.

00:23:19.000 And the people that are working on it, there's nobody alive around Roswell or any of that stuff that was in and around those years.

00:23:27.000 That's still alive or still working.

00:23:29.000 So, all those people are gone.

00:23:31.000 I mean, that's the best secret you can keep if you tell somebody and they die.

00:23:35.000 And that's exactly what they've done.

00:23:38.000 And, you know, we've been given places, addresses, and things.

00:23:44.000 And everybody says, oh, man, go to, you need to get out to Area 51, Burchett, and see what's out there.

00:23:50.000 There ain't nothing at freaking Area 51.

00:23:52.000 As soon as we announce where we're going, the U Haul vans would have already been there and left, you know? 0.86

00:23:57.000 And so what it's going to take is it's going to take a scientist or somebody that's going to have to walk out of one of those dadgum labs before they're allowed to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head 10 times with a shotgun or something. 0.56

00:24:12.000 Um, and so do you know the Bob Lazar story?

00:24:16.000 I do, I do.

00:24:17.000 I've never met Bob.

00:24:18.000 I know I, um, a buddy of mine, I guess, um, friend of mine, I think sort of broke that story.

00:24:23.000 Um, George Knapp, yeah, Knapp, Knapp.

00:24:26.000 I'm sorry, I, um, haven't slept much in the last 48 hours, but yeah, George, I met him through all this, and I mean, it's a big honor because I grew up watching George Knapp.

00:24:34.000 He's a cool guy, he's awesome.

00:24:36.000 He comes to my office and we hang out, and I mean, oh, that's great.

00:24:36.000 I love him.

00:24:39.000 People get, you know, they get kind of starry-eyed when they see somebody like yourself or.

00:24:44.000 Kid Rock or somebody, but for me it was George Knapp because I mean, you know, because I asked him, I'd ask him stuff.

00:24:49.000 He goes, Yeah, that was a report I did when, and because I've, you know.

00:24:53.000 Yeah, he's very careful about what he says too.

00:24:55.000 He's not a guy who says anything that he can't.

00:24:58.000 And he documents it.

00:24:59.000 Yeah.

00:24:59.000 You ever seen his files?

00:25:00.000 I mean, it's just a myriad of files.

00:25:03.000 He's very even keeled and fair in the way he assesses things.

00:25:07.000 He's not hyperbolic.

00:25:08.000 The way he describes things is like as clean and as accurate as possible.

00:25:14.000 He's not trying to sell t shirts, really.

00:25:15.000 I mean, he's a true journalist.

00:25:17.000 I, you know, I, I wish other people would look at a guy like that and say, that's the way we need to go with journalism.

00:25:23.000 A real journalist who didn't start off with this whole UFO thing.

00:25:26.000 I mean, he was an actual, just regular journalist until Bob Lazar contacted him.

00:25:26.000 He didn't want to do it.

00:25:30.000 And that story, I've had Bob on a couple of times.

00:25:34.000 In fact, this is how popular this idea is in the American zeitgeist.

00:25:40.000 The Bob Lazar episode of this podcast is the most viewed episode that I've ever had on YouTube.

00:25:47.000 Is that right?

00:25:48.000 Yeah, it's got 65 million views right now.

00:25:52.000 Wow.

00:25:53.000 Yeah.

00:25:54.000 I mean, a guy who's just talking about how he used to work at S4, Area 51, Site 4, where he was back engineering UFOs.

00:26:04.000 And there's a new documentary that he just did called S4, where they used CGI and they made models of the craft and they made him, like, they brought him, you know, they used this technology that makes it look like he's a lot younger.

00:26:04.000 Right.

00:26:20.000 Yeah.

00:26:20.000 And they showed, like, what his experience was.

00:26:23.000 Completely recreated it and it down to a T.

00:26:26.000 And I, Jamie and I got a chance to watch it with him, with Bob and Luigi, the guy who made the film.

00:26:32.000 And it was, I mean, watching how emotional he gets when he's in the room, he's like, This is it.

00:26:37.000 This is, this is, I like, this freaks me out.

00:26:39.000 It like brings me back because we're talking about 1988, 1989 when all this was going on.

00:26:45.000 And he really, you know, I, the last report I saw, it was, and somebody interviewed him at his house.

00:26:50.000 I mean, he had like a mid 80s Corvette or something, you know, he's not, he hasn't cashed in on it like everybody else seems to do.

00:26:58.000 No, he hasn't made any money off of it, and he's still just a legitimate scientist.

00:27:02.000 He runs United Nuclear Labs.

00:27:04.000 That's what he does.

00:27:05.000 He's a brilliant guy and doesn't want the attention.

00:27:10.000 It was very difficult to get him to come back in a second time.

00:27:14.000 He wanted to wait until this documentary was out and come in and talk again, but he got freaked out.

00:27:18.000 He drank a lot of whiskey.

00:27:20.000 He gets weirded out by it all.

00:27:22.000 To him, the whole experience was very surreal and strange.

00:27:26.000 You've got to figure he's the one that escaped from all of it.

00:27:29.000 And is still alive.

00:27:30.000 Somehow he got out and was able to do it before they could silence him.

00:27:34.000 They tried to discredit him, said he didn't work there.

00:27:36.000 Yes.

00:27:37.000 Yes.

00:27:37.000 I think he produced check stubs even.

00:27:39.000 Well, not just that.

00:27:40.000 They tried to pretend that he never worked at Los Alamos Labs, but he was on the employee roster.

00:27:45.000 There was a lot of stuff going on where they tried to discredit him.

00:27:47.000 But he went public because he was afraid they were going to kill him.

00:27:51.000 Because the initial one, he gave a fake name and he was a silhouette and he told his story.

00:27:55.000 But then his home got broken into, his car was getting broken into, he got shot at on the highway.

00:28:01.000 It got real weird.

00:28:02.000 And so he said, Look, I've got to go public.

00:28:04.000 It might be the only way to protect myself.

00:28:06.000 And he told the whole story.

00:28:07.000 And he hasn't deviated from that story.

00:28:09.000 And that's what's really kind of crazy because it's been, you know, what, 40 something years or close to?

00:28:15.000 These guys, they ask those questions, you know, they always, oh, yeah, well, and then they say, was it red?

00:28:20.000 And then they were adamant that it was red 10 years ago.

00:28:20.000 No, it was green.

00:28:23.000 Right.

00:28:24.000 Everything about him has been that he, and I've seen, there was a documentary on him and they asked somebody to analyze him, you know, was he telling the truth or not?

00:28:33.000 And he said, I think he's telling the truth.

00:28:35.000 Yeah, he doesn't seem like he's lying.

00:28:37.000 But I mean.

00:28:38.000 Of course, I'm in the business, I'm in Congress, so, yeah.

00:28:42.000 He's an amateur.

00:28:42.000 We're professionals up there, brother.

00:28:45.000 You only think you can tell a lie.

00:28:47.000 They're not very good at it. 0.94

00:28:48.000 The people in Congress that are liars, the problem with liars is they don't really have a good understanding of the truth. 0.62

00:28:57.000 Because if you're lying all the time and you're forging this fake narrative, people see that. 0.93

00:29:04.000 And so when you try to say it as the truth, it doesn't come off like the truth.

00:29:08.000 There's a feeling that people get when they talk to you. 0.91

00:29:10.000 Now, there's some real crazy people that could just lie, like really insane. 0.92

00:29:15.000 But. 0.57

00:29:15.000 Generally, they lie about a bunch of stuff. 0.57

00:29:17.000 They don't just have one lie from 1989.

00:29:20.000 The term pathological comes to mind.

00:29:22.000 Yes.

00:29:22.000 You know, that bass was this big.

00:29:24.000 Well, his story, though, one of the interesting things is he was talking about the ways in which the craft moved, and then decades later, we have footage that shows these crafts rotating in the direction that they want to travel, then zooming off.

00:29:40.000 And then, of course, there was the Commander David Fravor incident off the coast of San Diego in 2004.

00:29:46.000 And if that was our technology, the thing that puzzles me is if we had something in 2004 that can go from 50,000 feet above sea level to sea level in under a second, I can't imagine that 22 years later there would be no advances that it would have leaked through into mainstream technology.

00:30:09.000 Well, the energy, just from all of that.

00:30:12.000 The energy, it's, you know, we'd heat our homes in the winter and cool them in the summer. 0.98

00:30:15.000 But then again, I always throw out the war pimps.

00:30:19.000 I'm not at my.

00:30:20.000 My daddy fought for this country, and I'm not, and you know, their business is war, and their business is very good.

00:30:25.000 They will quickly, you know, stand up and trash a guy like Favor.

00:30:33.000 He testified before our committee, and I was taken by what he said.

00:30:39.000 I know him pretty well now, but we, you know, we had the committee, which was crazy.

00:30:43.000 We, me and Luna, and a bunch of others got together and said, man, we ain't got to do this committee.

00:30:51.000 We need to do this.

00:30:53.000 And so I went to the chairman and he said, sure.

00:30:56.000 And then they sort of blew it off.

00:30:59.000 And then I go see the staff of these committees.

00:31:03.000 And that's the real problem in Washington.

00:31:06.000 Reagan said it best don't term limit politicians, term limit staff. 0.65

00:31:10.000 You know, I go in there and I'm told, yeah, well, I think we want to just talk about this Chinese hot air balloon, is what we want to really talk about. 0.83

00:31:18.000 I said, no, hell no. 0.96

00:31:19.000 That's not, excuse my language, heck no.

00:31:21.000 We want to talk about.

00:31:24.000 Mad Gum UFOs, what people are calling us about constantly.

00:31:27.000 I mean, it was just getting so much airplay.

00:31:30.000 Much airplay.

00:31:31.000 And then I was told by some old timers, which was kind of cool.

00:31:35.000 They said that, you know, Tim, I've been here, some of them have been here 10, 15 years, and said that was the most attended committee that they could remember.

00:31:42.000 They had to open up another room so people could be there.

00:31:45.000 I walked out, I was on Fox that morning, and I was going out.

00:31:50.000 I left my office at 4 30 in the morning, and I was outside.

00:31:54.000 And I remember it was hot because it was summertime, and there were people already outside lining up that had come from.

00:32:01.000 All over the country on their own dime.

00:32:03.000 I mean, these weren't like wealthy people.

00:32:04.000 I mean, one guy said, This is our vacation this year.

00:32:07.000 We're coming to this dadgum committee meeting.

00:32:09.000 And Joe, they were lined up around the hall, around everywhere.

00:32:13.000 And that's where I met Sean Ryan and a bunch of people.

00:32:18.000 And it was just, it was amazing to me.

00:32:20.000 And that's when Congress started paying attention to it because they realized the voters are paying attention to it.

00:32:25.000 Yeah, I mean, that might be the only way to put pressure on them.

00:32:28.000 The thing about the alternative energy sources.

00:32:32.000 One of the things that I was thinking is that if you were involved in whatever, petroleum, like whatever your business is, and there's some sort of.

00:32:42.000 Put them out of business.

00:32:43.000 Yeah.

00:32:44.000 Them and the Pentagon.

00:32:45.000 That was my point on the Pentagon.

00:32:46.000 It would put them out of business, put the oil companies out of business, because they say you weren't even showing a dead gum heat signature.

00:32:46.000 Yeah.

00:32:52.000 Right.

00:32:52.000 You know, if a blackbird flowers across my farm, it's going to put out a dead gum heat signature.

00:32:57.000 Right.

00:32:58.000 And through all the technology we had, you know, as they called them, the tic tac.

00:33:05.000 Tic tacs.

00:33:05.000 Yeah, they look like the little lint, and that's what they were.

00:33:08.000 That's what Commander David Fravor saw.

00:33:10.000 Yeah, and not only saw, but there's video footage of it, there's radar footage of it.

00:33:15.000 It's exhibiting travel that's just beyond comprehension for modern technology, for current state technology.

00:33:21.000 100%.

00:33:22.000 But if these people were working on some sort of new energy source or some sort of new propulsion system, and you've got to imagine there's a very small amount of people that are on the Cutting edge of whatever this stuff is.

00:33:37.000 If this is like groundbreaking technology that's not known by mainstream physicists or whoever's working on it, and you only have a small group of people, if you whack one of them, you put a big stop to any progress, especially if you get the main people, the lead scientist, and that guy winds up getting assassinated or winds up in.

00:33:59.000 Disappears.

00:34:00.000 Disappears. 1.00

00:34:01.000 The one lady was the weird one. 0.97

00:34:03.000 So she's walking with her. 0.95

00:34:04.000 Is she hiking or something?

00:34:05.000 Yes.

00:34:06.000 Walking with her friend.

00:34:08.000 Her friend turns around and talks to her and then walks a little further, turns around to say something again, and she's gone.

00:34:15.000 Just gone.

00:34:16.000 And they bring in dogs.

00:34:17.000 They have cadaver dogs. 0.89

00:34:19.000 They can't find her.

00:34:20.000 There's no trace.

00:34:21.000 No one's seen her since.

00:34:22.000 And this lady was apparently wasn't she, Jamie, wasn't she involved in some sort of alternative technology, alternative metallurgy was her deal.

00:34:34.000 So you think these, whatever this craft or whatever, have to be something.

00:34:40.000 I said this earlier on one time and it made a lot of sense.

00:34:43.000 I was surprised that something I said did, but it sort of stuck.

00:34:46.000 You know, it's like, well, why don't they just bring it all out now if they've got it?

00:34:50.000 I don't think we've got the technology to figure out what the heck it is.

00:34:53.000 Like, I ride motorcycles. 1.00

00:34:54.000 I got an old 47 Indian chief. 1.00

00:34:57.000 If I were to take that thing back to the, when they came over in the Mayflower, you know, they would see it and think, that's kind of unusual.

00:35:04.000 They might worship him as a god.

00:35:05.000 I know.

00:35:06.000 I sometimes do when I go out to the garage, but, you know, they're going to, they're not going to be able to.

00:35:13.000 Adjust the valves.

00:35:14.000 They're not going to know what the heck a spark plug is.

00:35:16.000 They probably wouldn't be able to figure out how to make a fuel with a high enough octane for the thing to kick over.

00:35:21.000 Right.

00:35:23.000 And I think that, and they might polish it.

00:35:24.000 They might get it started.

00:35:26.000 And I think that's sort of where we're at with this stuff, Joe.

00:35:28.000 I think a lot of them have something and they just don't know what the heck to do with it.

00:35:34.000 Well, that's Bob Lazar's take on it.

00:35:36.000 And that was his take on it when he was working there in 1989.

00:35:39.000 He said they understood how to turn it on.

00:35:42.000 They didn't exactly understand how it worked or what it did, and they wanted him to try to figure it out.

00:35:48.000 Those guys that came to my house talked about that and how something could travel at these light years.

00:35:56.000 And one of them was an astrophysicist.

00:35:59.000 And I don't really understand astrophysics.

00:36:03.000 It took me six years to get out of UT and I didn't drink or smoke pot.

00:36:06.000 So I'm just going to elaborate a little bit here if that's all right with you, brother.

00:36:10.000 Having a green shop.

00:36:11.000 Technological and adult education.

00:36:12.000 I can fix your lawnmower.

00:36:13.000 I can burn your house down if you need it wired, but I'll always have a job.

00:36:17.000 So you got something vibrating over here and then instantly it's over here.

00:36:21.000 And that's sort of the way they explained it, put it on my level to understand it.

00:36:21.000 Right.

00:36:25.000 And to me, it proves that there's a God.

00:36:27.000 I mean, because it's an instantaneous travel that we don't quite comprehend.

00:36:31.000 Now, is there friction involved?

00:36:34.000 And that's where the.

00:36:37.000 When they see these blobs out there that are floating around, they are lit up.

00:36:43.000 I've had several people tell me about that.

00:36:46.000 There was one incident where they surrounded a group of our aircraft, and a lot of them deal with nuclear weapons.

00:36:57.000 It seems that when we're around some nukes, we've had. 0.54

00:36:59.000 I always remember I went in, and it's been a long time since you had a man bun, so I'm going to knock on this.

00:37:05.000 I had this bureaucrat with a dadgum man bun telling me.

00:37:09.000 I asked him about a certain incident, and he said, We don't have data points on that, Congressman.

00:37:13.000 And I said, Well, what about this deal?

00:37:15.000 And he said, I don't know what you're talking about.

00:37:16.000 I said, Well, Google it.

00:37:17.000 Everybody in the world knows about we had a nuclear power plant that had these things fly over, and the dadgum thing shut down.

00:37:25.000 I mean, it's been documented.

00:37:27.000 It has been documented unequivocally.

00:37:32.000 And then you have members of Congress go, Well, they said it didn't exist, so we're out.

00:37:35.000 I'm good.

00:37:36.000 And I'm like, No, no.

00:37:38.000 I'm sitting there reading these officers that are obviously very.

00:37:43.000 I read people.

00:37:44.000 God gives us all a gift.

00:37:46.000 My gift is reading somebody.

00:37:47.000 And I was reading these military officers, and they had the full NC.

00:37:51.000 They had all of it.

00:37:52.000 They'd been serving for a while, and some of them had done some things.

00:37:56.000 And I could just sit there reading them.

00:37:57.000 They're thinking, this little twerp right here beside me, I'd choke him out if I could.

00:38:02.000 They were just like, no, not at me, at him, at him, because they wanted to tell something, and this was a Biden appointee.

00:38:13.000 And that's a lot of the times.

00:38:15.000 I was in one situation, I'll just call it, where they sent somebody in basically just to disrupt, to throw at a witness.

00:38:26.000 And that witness just, he was like a pro ball player hitting T ball, man.

00:38:32.000 He was just knocking them out of the dadgum park every question.

00:38:35.000 He said, What about?

00:38:36.000 And he gave a date and he said, Oh, you're talking about this incident.

00:38:39.000 Well, let me tell you what happened there.

00:38:41.000 And he would go through everything, and it was beautiful.

00:38:44.000 It was beautiful.

00:38:45.000 And then he got disgusted and ended up leaving the meeting.

00:38:48.000 And, you know, and that's, they send people in to disrupt.

00:38:53.000 They're just not going to turn.

00:38:54.000 And I don't know if the fact that, and the corruption in Washington, D.C., is not like it used to be. 0.95

00:38:59.000 You know, it's not like, oh, I got a picture of you sleeping with some hooker over in Istanbul. 0.84

00:39:03.000 You know, oh, make copies. 0.96

00:39:05.000 I want to take it to my buddies.

00:39:06.000 I mean, that's about what you'd get now.

00:39:09.000 But the way it is now is, I think, is that some members have, A family member or a wife andor girlfriend that could work for one of these groups.

00:39:20.000 And they're told, hey, you want to keep your dadgum job or you want these pictures to come out or whatever.

00:39:26.000 We need a little help here.

00:39:27.000 And then they go disrupt and come into the committee meetings and ask ridiculous questions to try to get a partisan fight going. 0.97

00:39:35.000 And maybe some of them do it unbeknownst to them or what they're being told to do, but they do it because they're just lapdogs.

00:39:42.000 So there's a strategy where they have a bunch of people that they sort of compromise as disruptors.

00:39:49.000 And they are compromised, exactly.

00:39:50.000 That's the word.

00:39:52.000 I was on a, and I'm going to say another one, I was on the Benny show early when he was early on.

00:39:57.000 And I was talking to him.

00:39:58.000 Tanner Johnson?

00:39:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:40:01.000 And so he's been very kind to me.

00:40:03.000 And so he asked me about how they do it.

00:40:06.000 And I said, well, they used to do this thing called the honeypot.

00:40:08.000 You know, you'd go to some, I never go on trips.

00:40:12.000 The only trip I've ever been on a CODEL was to the border down here, down in Texas.

00:40:17.000 And I went down for one day, flew down here, saw the border, saw all the people coming over the border, got in an airplane, flew home.

00:40:25.000 It was about an 18 hour trip.

00:40:27.000 It wasn't any luxury.

00:40:28.000 I stayed in a room that.

00:40:30.000 My buddies at the frat house would have probably asked for our money back, and it was pretty rough, you know.

00:40:34.000 Got some good barbecue, though.

00:40:36.000 But anyway, so these guys go on these trips, and say you're sitting down at the bar.

00:40:43.000 I mean, you're a good looking guy.

00:40:45.000 Some girl comes up to you, or some guy, whatever your interests, whatever your proclivities are, and laughing at your jokes.

00:40:51.000 And, you know, next thing you know, you're up in the bedroom naked with them.

00:40:55.000 And then you think, man, I pulled off the great, I pulled this off.

00:40:58.000 I was with this smoke show, and my wife and kids don't know about it.

00:41:02.000 And I'm just going to, you know, me, I'm just, just, Me, just between me and the Lord.

00:41:06.000 And then, you know, you're getting ready to make a key boat.

00:41:09.000 And a staffer comes up or a lobbyist or something, and you're in the hall and says, Hey, Congressman.

00:41:14.000 I said, Yeah, man, how's it going?

00:41:16.000 I said, He got this big boat.

00:41:17.000 Yeah, but I'm not for y'all on this one.

00:41:19.000 Okay, we understand.

00:41:20.000 He said, Hey, were you in a motel room in Istanbul with a pretty redhead one time?

00:41:28.000 And they'd say, Man, I don't want that out.

00:41:29.000 It'll wreck my mind.

00:41:30.000 Well, we don't want it out.

00:41:31.000 We don't.

00:41:31.000 We just need your help.

00:41:33.000 And that's how they sink their claws into you. 0.83

00:41:34.000 They used to.

00:41:35.000 And they might do that now, but I was on the Benny show and I was talking about that.

00:41:39.000 Oh man, I caught it from, I mean, it was leadership and members.

00:41:43.000 Man, everybody thinks we're sleeping around.

00:41:45.000 I'm saying, I didn't say everybody.

00:41:46.000 I just said some of y'all are.

00:41:48.000 I said, you know, don't, don't, and every day you can, there's a new one getting in trouble, so it's not any big secret.

00:41:55.000 435 of us, so.

00:41:57.000 You get 435 people, you're going to add a few freaks in there.

00:42:02.000 Oh.

00:42:03.000 435 group of any human beings.

00:42:05.000 Yeah, any, you go to.

00:42:06.000 Especially, you know, if you can compromise a man with beautiful women, it's not that hard to do.

00:42:11.000 Or if they're. 1.00

00:42:12.000 If they're gay and they don't want it out in their public or whatever. 0.96

00:42:16.000 So I said this to Benny and I caught it. 0.94

00:42:20.000 And then about a week later, a week later, and I said it's probably the Chinese, the Russians, or something. 0.61

00:42:26.000 They busted a Chinese prostitution ring.

00:42:28.000 And what did they list as their clientele? 0.80

00:42:32.000 Lobbyists, government employees, and politicians.

00:42:37.000 Of course.

00:42:37.000 And then what happened the next week?

00:42:39.000 That story went away.

00:42:40.000 And Benny does this thing.

00:42:42.000 He showed me walking out, and he's like, I throw a match, and the whatever behind me just bursts into flames, and I'm walking out.

00:42:49.000 You know, it's really cool.

00:42:50.000 And he also did a song of me singing Dad Gum, which is my cuss.

00:42:54.000 I don't cuss, I say Dad Gum, and he did that.

00:42:56.000 But anyway, but that was my point is that they use this stuff, and they know what we want.

00:43:01.000 They, you know, these guys, these countries, they know they own the internet, so they know what's porn you look at.

00:43:07.000 It's in the privacy of your home that you think you're, you know, you got this private name on your freaking computer, and they know, you know. 0.50

00:43:14.000 And so that's what they're going to hit you with.

00:43:17.000 So, anyway, that's a long story, but I think mostly it's just jobs now.

00:43:22.000 Mostly jobs and influence and figuring out.

00:43:24.000 Well, you think about it. 1.00

00:43:25.000 You get a dirt bag, you're going to get him to sleep with some hooker. 1.00

00:43:28.000 That's going to happen eventually, too. 0.99

00:43:30.000 But I just don't know if it's that prevalent.

00:43:33.000 And I had a lobbyist tell me one time.

00:43:36.000 His name was Tom Hensley.

00:43:37.000 He was the Golden Goose.

00:43:38.000 He was a liquor lobbyist in Nashville, Tennessee.

00:43:40.000 And he was a caricature of what a lobbyist is.

00:43:42.000 He had a three piece suit, big old cowboy boots, smoking a cigar.

00:43:46.000 And we were at the Crown Plaza.

00:43:48.000 He liked me because I never would vote for his liquor bills, but I never would vote for a tax on them either.

00:43:53.000 So he.

00:43:57.000 We were there, and the guy from the governor's office came and just chewed both of us out.

00:44:01.000 I'm a legislator, and he was treating me like a dog.

00:44:01.000 You know, he's treating me.

00:44:05.000 And Goose is sitting back here, and he had that fancy Jack Daniels black label or whatever it is that the fancy version of it is, because he represented Jack Daniels, made in Tennessee.

00:44:14.000 And he pulls that big $5 cigar out of him out, and he goes, Birchett, he goes, governor's come and go, but the old goose will be sitting right here.

00:44:23.000 And I said, Well, what are you going to do, Goose?

00:44:24.000 He's going to shut you down, man.

00:44:26.000 He's going to tell all these people stuff.

00:44:27.000 He goes, Birchett, I just need one chairman.

00:44:30.000 I don't need the whole, in one body of the House, you know, in the House or the Senate, I just need one chairman that'll listen to me.

00:44:37.000 And he wasn't saying, he never did anything crooked in front of me and he never offered me any bribes or anything.

00:44:41.000 Right.

00:44:41.000 But that was a good lesson to learn as a young man when I was in the state legislature.

00:44:46.000 Well, if you just think about how much money congresspeople wind up leaving office with, just that alone is incentive to play ball.

00:44:54.000 You don't mean, you don't think we're making 16,000% on our own knowledge? 0.98

00:45:00.000 I got my daughter called me a while back and said, Dad, and she's super smart.

00:45:06.000 She's to do anything.

00:45:07.000 I'm a veterinarian, doctor, brain surgeon. 0.86

00:45:10.000 She's crazy smart. 1.00

00:45:11.000 I married my wife and adopted her.

00:45:13.000 My wife was a widow, so genetically she's not mine.

00:45:15.000 But when she gets into trouble, my wife says, That's all you, Tim Burton.

00:45:18.000 But she's an exceptional little girl.

00:45:21.000 And she said, Dad, I think I'd just like to cut hair.

00:45:24.000 And I was like, Right on, girl.

00:45:26.000 You go undo it. 1.00

00:45:28.000 And that's what she does.

00:45:29.000 I mean, she's going to school to do that.

00:45:30.000 So I cashed out my.

00:45:32.000 $11,000 portfolio, which was a mutual fund, because I think, and I don't own any individual stocks, but I think that members of Congress ought to do that.

00:45:41.000 That was my bill.

00:45:42.000 You don't own it.

00:45:44.000 More people have played professional baseball than have ever been in Congress.

00:45:50.000 You know, it's a very tight. 0.94

00:45:54.000 And I tell people if you don't get off that dadgum plane and look at that Capitol and get chill bumps, you need to get your butt back on that plane and go home because we don't need you there. 0.97

00:46:03.000 And everybody knocks on Pelosi, and I know that. 0.92

00:46:05.000 But out of the top 10, you know where she is in the amount of trades?

00:46:11.000 Where is she at? 1.00

00:46:11.000 Number 11. 1.00

00:46:13.000 She's not even in the top 10, dude. 1.00

00:46:14.000 Well, she should get a better PR person. 1.00

00:46:16.000 I know. 1.00

00:46:16.000 It's crazy because everybody uses her as an example. 1.00

00:46:18.000 I know, but she doesn't care.

00:46:20.000 I mean, if you were making 16,000%, would you care?

00:46:23.000 I would be a little concerned that someone would come for me.

00:46:26.000 She's all right.

00:46:27.000 Well, it's just bizarre that it's legal.

00:46:29.000 That's the most bizarre.

00:46:31.000 Oh, it's not right.

00:46:33.000 Right.

00:46:33.000 It's not right, but it's legal.

00:46:35.000 And I just said, look, You cash out everything, you put it in a mutual fund, and I know they got this bill, and everybody's all fired up for it.

00:46:42.000 I'm not, I probably don't know what I'm going to do about it.

00:46:45.000 Which bill?

00:46:46.000 They got a new bill.

00:46:47.000 They don't like my bill, mine and Luna's bill, that says that you can't own individual stocks, just own a mutual fund.

00:46:53.000 They're going to let you keep your portfolio.

00:46:55.000 So, I mean, some of these cats got a $20 million dead gum portfolio, and they make $170,000 a year, which is amazing.

00:47:02.000 Yeah.

00:47:02.000 Imagine the average person out there making $170,000, and all of a sudden they make.

00:47:09.000 100 million in the stock market?

00:47:12.000 We're involved, and not all of them are crooked.

00:47:16.000 Some of them are geniuses.

00:47:18.000 I've been in Congress with some real geniuses, but if you see, I'll give you a case in point, all right?

00:47:24.000 And I've said this many times, and nobody's come after me and said, you know, they told me to quit saying it, but I don't care.

00:47:31.000 I got to add them First Amendment.

00:47:32.000 I don't care. 0.65

00:47:32.000 They can't come to East Tennessee and try to beat me. 0.65

00:47:36.000 But they, if I forgot what I was saying now, man, I've lost my mind.

00:47:42.000 I guess that's part you're going to have to cut out.

00:47:44.000 We're talking about insider trading.

00:47:47.000 We're talking about the amount of money that people generate.

00:47:50.000 That's where we're at.

00:47:51.000 We're talking about bills.

00:47:53.000 Someone's a genius, really good at it.

00:47:55.000 Yeah, I'm trying to think.

00:47:56.000 I've got so many one liners in my head, Joe.

00:47:56.000 I forgot it.

00:47:59.000 I should have written all these down.

00:48:00.000 But anyway, they all, not all of them are crooked.

00:48:05.000 Some of them really are that good.

00:48:07.000 I'm sure.

00:48:08.000 But, oh, I know what it was.

00:48:10.000 It was when Russia invaded Ukraine.

00:48:15.000 I haven't voted for a dime for that.

00:48:16.000 It's not our dadgum war.

00:48:18.000 I don't, I keep my dollars here.

00:48:21.000 We need to defend our own dadgum borders.

00:48:22.000 Well, Joe Biden. 0.87

00:48:25.000 For better or for worse, gave Ukraine basically our missile defense system.

00:48:29.000 So immediately we had to replenish our missile defense system.

00:48:33.000 Now, who do you think owns stock in those missile defense systems?

00:48:39.000 Members of Congress.

00:48:40.000 Members of Congress.

00:48:40.000 Yeah.

00:48:41.000 And apparently some of them had bought it fairly close to those time periods.

00:48:48.000 And so I don't know.

00:48:49.000 Are they doing something crooked?

00:48:50.000 I don't know.

00:48:51.000 I mean, you can't prove it.

00:48:52.000 Well, if it's not crooked, they know things that would help.

00:48:55.000 Them.

00:48:56.000 They know things are correct.

00:48:57.000 Remove all reproach.

00:48:59.000 If you've got a $20 million portfolio or whatever, some probably have more than that, you know good and dadgum will.

00:49:05.000 You're going to vote.

00:49:06.000 It's in the back of your mind, you're going to vote to make my investment worth a little more.

00:49:12.000 Yeah.

00:49:13.000 So the possibility of financial windfall would probably make people play ball.

00:49:22.000 Which makes sense.

00:49:23.000 Which makes sense.

00:49:23.000 Sure.

00:49:24.000 It's in human nature.

00:49:25.000 You've got guys up there that they've got.

00:49:30.000 They got expenses at home, got a couple kids in school, got payments on a house, you know, and $170,000 doesn't go as far as it used to, I guess.

00:49:39.000 And they just human nature.

00:49:42.000 You want more.

00:49:43.000 People want more.

00:49:45.000 They want, you know, whatever it is.

00:49:47.000 And a lot of times it's not them investing, it's their, you know, their wife or their spouse.

00:49:52.000 And we've seen cases of that where, you know, a 16 year old kid is doing pretty well.

00:49:59.000 Right.

00:50:00.000 And it's a child of someone who has some inside information.

00:50:03.000 There's something that just came out yesterday about Ro Khanna.

00:50:06.000 There's a guy, Kevin Bass, on Twitter, posted this big, long examination of his stock trades and how much money he's made and how he's made it and what he's done.

00:50:18.000 There's I mean, it's just all over Congress.

00:50:21.000 You have inside information.

00:50:23.000 That's what it is.

00:50:24.000 That's disappointing.

00:50:25.000 I know Ro.

00:50:27.000 I don't know if it's true.

00:50:27.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:50:29.000 You could pull it up if you want, Jamie.

00:50:31.000 Kevin Bass, B A S S.

00:50:34.000 It's Bass or Bass.

00:50:35.000 I'm not sure how to pronounce his last name, but he made this very detailed post about it.

00:50:40.000 But I mean, that's just one example of one person who's profited.

00:50:45.000 I'm sure it's probably minor in comparison to the other 11 that are ahead of Nancy Pelosi.

00:50:50.000 I sleep on my couch in my office and I shower in the gym.

00:50:54.000 I don't have a place.

00:50:56.000 I can't afford it.

00:50:56.000 It's too expensive up there.

00:50:59.000 I got elected with a guy one time and he said, when we got elected, he said, Hey, Burchett, I just paid $1.2 million for this place.

00:51:05.000 What do you think?

00:51:06.000 And I know he was just bragging.

00:51:08.000 To me, you know, because no way I could touch something like that.

00:51:11.000 And he said, and I said, well, probably in a couple years, they're going to say, I can't believe you only paid $1.2 million for it.

00:51:16.000 Because, Dad, the price of that real estate up there is just crazy.

00:51:20.000 It is crazy.

00:51:22.000 And it's a rich man's game.

00:51:25.000 It is really a rich man's game.

00:51:26.000 And the problem with being around rich men is even if you're rich, you don't feel like you're rich if you're in comparison to them. 0.93

00:51:34.000 And so if you're worth a couple million and this guy over here is worth 50, you're like, damn, I got to up my game. 0.85

00:51:39.000 I got to up my game. 0.50

00:51:40.000 And you're in this sort of culture, this culture of a bunch of people that are investing a bunch of money and making a bunch of returns.

00:51:47.000 And I'll tell you, it was a public meeting.

00:51:49.000 I remember it was in transportation.

00:51:51.000 It dealt with some technology in an airport, and it was pretty cool.

00:51:55.000 And I just asked the question.

00:51:57.000 I said, Is that, is your stock publicly traded?

00:52:00.000 You know, I looked, I was watching people see what they did, and they all looked up, you know, and I thought, Note to self, call my broker when I walk out of here, you know.

00:52:12.000 It's just very odd that that has been legal for so long.

00:52:16.000 That's what's very odd. 0.92

00:52:17.000 It's disgusting.

00:52:18.000 And here's what we're going to do we'll pass some bill, and the Senate will pass another bill, or phone just won't take it up, which is what we're seeing a lot of now.

00:52:26.000 It won't take anything up.

00:52:27.000 And it'll die, and we'll all go back to our people and say, Oh, look, I tried to do this.

00:52:33.000 I voted for this bill, but I didn't get a dead gum break.

00:52:38.000 And look how tough we are.

00:52:40.000 And they'll all be up at Kenny Bunkport sipping expensive wine and toasting each other on their great financial choices.

00:52:49.000 That's where Bush is from, right?

00:52:51.000 I don't know.

00:52:51.000 I think so.

00:52:52.000 I think they're from Kenny Bunkport, Maine.

00:52:54.000 Yeah, I just threw that one out.

00:52:56.000 It's the only place I could think of.

00:52:58.000 Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, for somebody like me, would be pretty cool.

00:53:01.000 So, one of the things about this disclosure thing, the documentary Age of Disclosure, and you're in that, it's really great.

00:53:10.000 If you haven't seen it, folks, and you're interested in the UFO phenomenon, one of the fascinating aspects about Age of Disclosure is you got all these insider people that are all talking about all these different experiences that people have had and all the stuff that people know.

00:53:26.000 And one subject came up that made a lot of sense, and it was that.

00:53:32.000 If there have been back engineering programs and they have had access to all this technology and they've had crashed vehicles and biological entities and they've been all these programs studying this for so long, they had to have funding.

00:53:49.000 So if they had funding, that means they had to lie to Congress.

00:53:51.000 So if they had to lie to Congress, there's misappropriation of funds.

00:53:54.000 So you're talking about massive felonies.

00:53:56.000 So if they don't have some sort of amnesty, and this is one of the things that's pushed throughout this entire documentary, is that we need some kind of mass amnesty.

00:54:07.000 I'm a very skeptical person.

00:54:09.000 I see something like that.

00:54:10.000 I'm like, okay, I see what you're doing.

00:54:11.000 You are talking about UFOs so you can get some sort of amnesty for misappropriation of funds, and that might just be straight up fraud.

00:54:22.000 There might be fraud and theft, and you might have moved money into offshore accounts, and there's a bunch of shady shit, and you could say, oh, but we'll tell you some very obscure information about UAPs.

00:54:37.000 I don't like that term because it was always UFOs.

00:54:40.000 UFOs have a misdirection.

00:54:42.000 I hate that term.

00:54:43.000 Why do we need a new name?

00:54:44.000 We've already had that name forever.

00:54:46.000 Let's call it what it is.

00:54:47.000 UFOs is fun.

00:54:48.000 UAPs makes me feel sanitized. 0.96

00:54:51.000 But if they can give you some fucking semi shady information, now you've got amnesty. 0.98

00:55:00.000 Now you've got amnesty. 0.92

00:55:01.000 And you've got amnesty for decades of misappropriation of funds.

00:55:05.000 So maybe some of it is real.

00:55:08.000 Maybe a lot of it is real.

00:55:10.000 Maybe a lot of it is really back engineering programs.

00:55:13.000 Maybe they really have been doing these things.

00:55:15.000 And maybe they can give us.

00:55:16.000 Slowly trickle down some insight as to what's going on.

00:55:20.000 It'll probably take forever if you ever get anything out of it.

00:55:22.000 But in the meantime, all these people that have made who knows how much money in shady ways with all this misappropriation of funds and now they're not in trouble anymore.

00:55:34.000 Yeah.

00:55:35.000 Representative Eric Burleson has a bill to do just that.

00:55:38.000 But it's whistleblower protection, it's the way you need to go about that.

00:55:44.000 And he can't, he's tried to get it attached to bills and they just won't allow it.

00:55:50.000 They won't allow it, or they put it on and kill it in the Senate.

00:55:52.000 It's the same old game, Joe.

00:55:54.000 Back and forth.

00:55:55.000 So then the other problem that's brought up in Age of Disclosure is say if you do have a retrieved craft from wherever, another planet, another dimension, whatever it is, from the ocean, whatever it is, and you need to study this thing, where are you bringing it to?

00:56:14.000 Most likely you're going to bring it to a weapons manufacturing company.

00:56:18.000 And so if you do that, well, what about the other companies?

00:56:18.000 100%.

00:56:21.000 They don't have access to that? 1.00

00:56:22.000 Well, then they can sue.

00:56:23.000 Are they thinking, why didn't I get access to that sort of technology?

00:56:26.000 Why does this person, you've damaged my business or what have you?

00:56:31.000 And also, people have probably lied under oath about whether or not those things exist or where they got certain technologies.

00:56:39.000 I mean, there's a bunch of different reasons why you could see why, logical reasons why you could see why they would try to put the brakes on disclosure and try to put some blockades up and try to obfuscate and make things much more difficult to get through.

00:56:55.000 I agree.

00:56:56.000 And that's why I think these folks disappearing and dying unexpectedly are delivering some of those messages.

00:56:56.000 100%.

00:57:05.000 Yeah.

00:57:05.000 And members of Congress will, you know, several of the people that have been involved that are really heavily into it now, they were real skeptics.

00:57:14.000 We kind of brought them in.

00:57:16.000 I needed some skeptics.

00:57:17.000 It couldn't just all be a bunch of folks that thought like I did.

00:57:20.000 And they're now not skeptics.

00:57:23.000 Can you give me some examples of how that happened?

00:57:25.000 Yeah, well, we had a committee meeting, and my buddy Eric Burleson, for instance, he was a skeptic.

00:57:32.000 And I mean, I'm a skeptic of a lot of it myself, but I just have been studying it for so damn long.

00:57:39.000 And he was in the committee, and he's asking very poignant, sharp questions, which is what you're supposed to do in a hearing.

00:57:49.000 And he's one of the biggest advocates now for total release of everything.

00:57:56.000 Matter of fact, he's always at the forefront of writing legislation when we're doing something.

00:58:02.000 We're always me, him, and Luna.

00:58:04.000 Jared Moskowitz on the Democrat side is involved in it a lot.

00:58:11.000 And other members will come in and say, hey, I want to be read into this committee, which means they can come on when we do the UFO stuff.

00:58:20.000 But nothing really had the impact as that first committee meeting.

00:58:24.000 And I told people at the end of it, I was recognized at the end, I said, The one thing about, and Nancy Mace, of course, she's involved with as well.

00:58:32.000 And one thing at the end, I said, you know, I just want y'all to know that people do believe you.

00:58:38.000 This is not some crazy far out thing.

00:58:42.000 And you all have a right to be skeptical and ask questions of your government and get these answers because we're not going to give it to you without y'all being there and raising these questions.

00:58:56.000 Well, there's too many stories from too many credible people, too many people like Ryan Graves, too many people like, Commander David Fravor.

00:59:02.000 There's too many people that just go, I don't know why this person would lie about this one thing.

00:59:06.000 Can I tell you one that I got on?

00:59:08.000 I was in the state legislature with a guy, and he was watching Unknown Aliens or something.

00:59:19.000 And they film you one time, and then they use you for like three years.

00:59:23.000 Ancient Aliens?

00:59:23.000 Ancient Aliens.

00:59:24.000 That's so great.

00:59:24.000 I'm sorry.

00:59:25.000 I love that show.

00:59:26.000 I love those guys.

00:59:27.000 They're all great.

00:59:28.000 I love it.

00:59:29.000 Shout out to Giorgio.

00:59:30.000 Yeah.

00:59:31.000 Giorgio Suklou.

00:59:32.000 He has crazy hair.

00:59:33.000 I love that guy.

00:59:34.000 I think he's Greek.

00:59:35.000 I need to get him to Knoxville for the Greek festival.

00:59:37.000 But anyway, he'd be a rock star there.

00:59:39.000 But so.

00:59:42.000 Again, we're, you know, I'm losing my train of thought here, Joe.

00:59:46.000 I don't even smoke weed, and I'm losing my train of thought.

00:59:48.000 What were we talking about here?

00:59:49.000 I hope you edit some of this because I love it. 0.98

00:59:51.000 We're not editing shit. 0.94

00:59:52.000 We're talking about disclosure. 0.98

00:59:53.000 Oh, yeah, disclosure.

00:59:54.000 We're talking about things that people see.

00:59:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:59:56.000 I was telling you about people.

00:59:57.000 So I pick up the phone, and a buddy of mine says, Timbo.

01:00:01.000 And I recognize the voice.

01:00:02.000 I said, Hey, brother, what are you up to?

01:00:03.000 We were in the state house together.

01:00:05.000 He said, I just saw you on Ancient Aliens.

01:00:08.000 And I thought, Here it comes.

01:00:08.000 And I said, Okay.

01:00:10.000 You know, hey, you've been probed lately.

01:00:11.000 You know, you get that stuff from some of the guys and gals in Congress.

01:00:15.000 And he said, Can I tell you a story?

01:00:17.000 And I said, Sure, buddy.

01:00:18.000 And his voice kind of got quiet.

01:00:20.000 And I remember he hollered at his wife.

01:00:22.000 He said, Hey, said her name.

01:00:24.000 And he said, What year was that?

01:00:27.000 It was when he was in the Navy.

01:00:28.000 And she said, It was, and she gave the date.

01:00:30.000 It was, I think, in the 50s.

01:00:32.000 And he was out on a boat.

01:00:33.000 And I don't know, you know, a battleship from an aircraft carrier.

01:00:36.000 But anyway, he was out on a boat.

01:00:38.000 And they were arming a sub with nukes.

01:00:42.000 It was in the early part of that where the subs could launch nuclear weapons.

01:00:46.000 And they were all out on the deck.

01:00:48.000 And all of a sudden, It got, there's just a cloud over him.

01:00:51.000 He said he looked up and he saw this humongous saucer in the air. 0.99

01:00:57.000 And he said, He said, Timbo, he said, if that thing wasn't two blocks long, I'll kiss your butt. 0.96

01:01:05.000 And I said, And he described it to me, you know, he said, he gave the color and it was the classic saucer. 0.96

01:01:11.000 He said there was lights coming out of portals around it.

01:01:14.000 And he said it made no noise whatsoever.

01:01:17.000 And it just sat there and hovered.

01:01:19.000 And they just looked up at it and then it just went, whoop.

01:01:23.000 It just went straight up.

01:01:25.000 No noise, no nothing, no anything.

01:01:28.000 And they're all just like, what the heck was that?

01:01:31.000 And so when they get back to port, the guys in the suits come on, the so called men in black, they're just spooks, CIA or something, and told them, they said, this is national security, if you talk about this, you'll be in Leavenworth the rest of your dadgum lives busting rocks.

01:01:50.000 And back then, the cell phone wasn't invented.

01:01:53.000 Al Gore hadn't invented the internet.

01:01:55.000 What year was this?

01:01:56.000 It would have been in the 50s, late 50s, I believe, or early 60s.

01:02:03.000 But he gave me some descriptions.

01:02:05.000 And after this came out, I mean, my phone, Joe, every day when this started breaking, I would get somebody to call me and send me pictures of something, you know, that's like a reflection or something, you know.

01:02:16.000 And I'll come out to my house.

01:02:18.000 I'm afraid I was going to end up in a freezer in North Carolina or something, you know.

01:02:18.000 All right.

01:02:21.000 It'd be somebody's dinner.

01:02:23.000 And I was like, I don't want to go out there and look at it.

01:02:25.000 Just send me a picture of it.

01:02:26.000 And every day, but then I got a call from my guy who was Air Force.

01:02:29.000 And I, I Googled him.

01:02:31.000 He's legit.

01:02:32.000 And he told me about a sighting he had.

01:02:36.000 He was out, they were out fishing in Florida, and it was near where one of the military bases was.

01:02:42.000 And this thing, and he described exactly what my buddy had seen.

01:02:48.000 And he saw this in the early 80s or late 70s.

01:02:53.000 And he described this craft that was just hovering and it was just going along.

01:02:58.000 And then, you know, it was just going on a pretty good click.

01:03:01.000 And he said these jets were trying to keep up with it.

01:03:03.000 He could tell by the you know, because he's an Air Force guy.

01:03:07.000 And he was an officer, and it was legitimate.

01:03:10.000 And I've since read the story that he told, but it was strangely identical in the color, the texture.

01:03:23.000 What color was it?

01:03:24.000 It was an off gray, I believe.

01:03:28.000 But it didn't really matter, but it was just the same one that they said.

01:03:31.000 Could have been chartreuse for all I know.

01:03:34.000 But the size and the circumference and the.

01:03:40.000 The dome on top and the portholes and just everything was just very, very similar to what this guy had told me about just a few weeks prior.

01:03:49.000 And when you see identical things of people that have no contact with each other, to me that says something.

01:03:55.000 And with these pilots, they're risking their careers to come forward.

01:03:58.000 And those engineers in Age of Discovery that come forward, their reputations and everything are on the line.

01:04:04.000 Right.

01:04:05.000 These aren't rich people.

01:04:06.000 They can't just retire.

01:04:07.000 No, and they're good folks.

01:04:08.000 I've hung out with them when they had the world premiere, which was.

01:04:13.000 Something else, me standing on a red carpet.

01:04:16.000 A little out of place at a film festival.

01:04:20.000 Yeah.

01:04:21.000 No, I'm sure.

01:04:22.000 I avoid those things.

01:04:23.000 They're weird.

01:04:24.000 But this subject, when you talk about them appearing over bases, appearing over aircraft carriers, appearing over submarines that have nuclear capability, it kind of makes sense that if you were from another planet or you're from another dimension or wherever it is, and you're monitoring.

01:04:44.000 What seems to be the most intelligent species and the most capable species on the planet, that when they would get access to something like that, like all the UFO sightings ramped up considerably after World War II.

01:04:57.000 After we dropped the bombs.

01:04:58.000 After we dropped the bomb.

01:05:00.000 Yeah, there was a considerable amount of activity.

01:05:04.000 That's when Kenneth Arnold first saw those things and talked about them as flying saucers.

01:05:09.000 Called them flying saucers.

01:05:10.000 That was in Washington State?

01:05:13.000 Yeah.

01:05:14.000 Stone skipping across like little saucers.

01:05:17.000 Yeah.

01:05:17.000 So that's where the term first got introduced into the modern world.

01:05:23.000 And then you see so many of them, and then you hear these stories about them flying over nuclear bases and hovering over and shutting down the equipment.

01:05:32.000 And just the fact that they would hover over that submarine and then take off, just to let you know.

01:05:37.000 It's probably a smart move if you don't want to completely intervene.

01:05:43.000 And like, kidnap people and shut down the government and land on the White House lawn and freak everybody out. 0.98

01:05:49.000 What better way than to take something that's completely isolated, like a submarine in the ocean where you know everybody's going to lock everything down top secret, and just show yourself and just like, hey, bitch, like, we're here. 0.98

01:06:04.000 We're here and we are watching everything. 1.00

01:06:07.000 So don't do anything fucking stupid. 1.00

01:06:10.000 You know, you talked about that issue or episode. 1.00

01:06:14.000 I remember when they.

01:06:15.000 I've never been invited back, of course, but the Intelligence Committee, when they did the UFO thing, and they had all these seats, and it was open to everybody, Congress and the press and everybody, and they had all these seats behind this white guy and this black guy who were appointed to oversee the UAP issue.

01:06:37.000 And I remembered, I thought, I'm going to get there early, get the seat down front.

01:06:42.000 And I sat right behind those guys, and nobody else showed up.

01:06:46.000 I was the only member of Congress outside of the members in the.

01:06:49.000 On the committee.

01:06:51.000 And Joe, those guys couldn't spell UFO.

01:06:53.000 I mean, they were intelligent.

01:06:55.000 They were, I'm sure they're patriots.

01:06:59.000 Their patriots, they had no clue about anything.

01:07:03.000 So there's questions asked about certain incidents, and we don't know anything about that.

01:07:08.000 And I thought to myself, that's when the compartmentalization came to my mind, how they compartmentalize that stuff.

01:07:15.000 Because to them, they could take a lie detector test and say, I don't know anything about it, because they are kept away from it.

01:07:21.000 It's like they're looking down the barrel of a.22 rifle, man.

01:07:24.000 It's just a little bitty area, and they don't get outside that area.

01:07:27.000 And they don't ask questions unless they're told.

01:07:30.000 And if you want to keep your career, that's how you have to operate.

01:07:33.000 And your pension and everything else.

01:07:34.000 It makes sense.

01:07:34.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:07:36.000 That aspect of it makes sense.

01:07:38.000 What doesn't totally make sense is why now disclosure.

01:07:43.000 Other than, I mean, this is being cynical.

01:07:48.000 The Iran war is not going very well.

01:07:50.000 The American public is very upset.

01:07:52.000 A lot of people don't think we should have ever been involved in that in the first place, and we need some good news.

01:07:56.000 I think we.

01:07:57.000 We need something to distract us, we need something to take our focus off of.

01:08:02.000 If I was going to do it, now would be the time I'd do it.

01:08:05.000 Yeah.

01:08:05.000 But I don't think Trump really even cares.

01:08:08.000 I think he just wants to get it out there.

01:08:10.000 Well, I think he does too.

01:08:11.000 You know, he's talked about it.

01:08:12.000 Like, and he's also.

01:08:13.000 I mean, no, I mean, I don't think he cares about trying to get everybody off target, you know, by disclosing UFOs.

01:08:21.000 I think he cares about all of it, but I don't think he cares that if they're talking about it or not.

01:08:26.000 I just think he genuinely sees that America needs to know this stuff.

01:08:30.000 Well, he also realizes America wants to know it.

01:08:33.000 And.

01:08:33.000 He's an outsider.

01:08:35.000 I mean, even though he's the president, he is in a lot of ways an outsider.

01:08:38.000 And I mean, this is his last term, right?

01:08:42.000 And so it's like if you're going to, if someone's going to do it, do it.

01:08:45.000 You want to leave a legacy?

01:08:46.000 Be the guy who releases all these files. 0.95

01:08:49.000 I tried to kill him three times.

01:08:51.000 So, you know, it's not, and that ain't no.

01:08:51.000 Yeah.

01:08:53.000 Did you see that judge that apologized to the guy that.

01:08:57.000 Did you see the story?

01:08:59.000 Okay.

01:08:59.000 No.

01:08:59.000 The guy who was at the White House Correspondents' Dinner that shot one of the Secret Service agents and the guy got arrested.

01:09:06.000 Yeah.

01:09:06.000 The judge.

01:09:07.000 Who's dealing with the case apologized to him for his treatment in jail.

01:09:11.000 Do you have that, Jamie?

01:09:14.000 See if you can find that.

01:09:15.000 He should have gotten some quality stick time.

01:09:17.000 This is another guy.

01:09:18.000 This judge also released another man who was arrested for threatening to kill Trump.

01:09:24.000 Trump derangement syndrome for real, dude. 1.00

01:09:28.000 It's ridiculous. 0.99

01:09:29.000 But the way this guy addressed this man, it's almost as if he was condoning it. 0.98

01:09:34.000 Look at it.

01:09:36.000 It says the indictment comes the day after the judge overseeing the case against Allen expressed grave concerns.

01:09:39.000 About how he's being treated in jail and apologized to him in court.

01:09:44.000 You're talking about a guy who showed up with a rifle or a shotgun.

01:09:48.000 Shot a Secret Service agent, obviously in the vest.

01:09:48.000 Shotgun, yeah.

01:09:52.000 But whatever you've been through, I apologize for the prior week, Magistrate Judge Zia Faruqi, I don't know if I'm saying that right, said during a hearing in Washington, D.C. on Monday.

01:09:52.000 The guy's okay.

01:10:05.000 According to the court documents filed over the weekend, Allen had been in solitary confinement.

01:10:08.000 Oh, poor baby.

01:10:10.000 At the D.C. jail after being placed on suicide watch after his arrest on April 25th, his lawyer said that he was housed in a permanently illuminated safe cell with no access to personal items or jail visits, despite repeated assessments showing he did not exhibit any suicide factors.

01:10:26.000 In an order issued on Sunday, Faruqi wrote that he had grave concerns about the conditions Allen was being kept in, which he said were seemingly unprompted by the facts of the case.

01:10:40.000 It could drive a person crazy to be in that situation, Faruqi said during Monday's hearing.

01:10:45.000 That is really crazy.

01:10:46.000 That is really crazy.

01:10:49.000 That is really a crazy thing to apologize for someone who is trying to at least assume you're assuming he was trying to kill the president.

01:10:59.000 The guy's been programmed to do this.

01:11:01.000 He immediately turns from one way to the other overnight almost.

01:11:09.000 And we're seeing this more and more, I think.

01:11:11.000 What do you mean the guy's been programmed?

01:11:13.000 I think these people are.

01:11:16.000 You mean like MKUltra type programming?

01:11:18.000 100%. 0.60

01:11:19.000 I think so.

01:11:19.000 Really?

01:11:20.000 But it's a different, you know, MK, you're the expert on it.

01:11:23.000 I'm not really.

01:11:24.000 Well, don't say that.

01:11:26.000 No.

01:11:26.000 I don't want to get you bumped off there.

01:11:29.000 Let somebody else go start your car when you walk out there and wait 30 minutes.

01:11:35.000 I know nothing.

01:11:37.000 But, you know, the CIA, they were grabbing these people up and giving them, I guess, acid or LSD, whatever, and then programming them.

01:11:44.000 And then they said they weren't doing it.

01:11:46.000 And then they got sued and they said, oh, we lied.

01:11:49.000 We were doing it.

01:11:50.000 But we're not doing it anymore.

01:11:52.000 Now, which time are they not?

01:11:53.000 Here's my thought on this.

01:11:54.000 I think you've got a bunch of people today because of this.

01:11:57.000 It's just open up, open up your head and pour it in.

01:12:01.000 And they can put these things out to people just enough to where they know that there's going to be a reaction.

01:12:08.000 There's some people, you and I are going to read this stuff and go, huh?

01:12:11.000 And there's some people that are just going to stay awake at night and just fume.

01:12:11.000 Yeah.

01:12:14.000 I know people that read stuff and they'll call me and text me and say, Can you believe this?

01:12:18.000 And I'm like, dude, man, I live this stuff.

01:12:21.000 Cool out. We're good. We're okay.

01:12:23.000 And I think that these folks.

01:12:24.000 They know who they are and they can target them.

01:12:28.000 How many of these people are we going to find that have no internet access, have no history of being on the internet?

01:12:36.000 Like Thomas Crooks.

01:12:37.000 Yeah, that's just total BS.

01:12:40.000 Total BS.

01:12:41.000 Oh, we let him on the roof.

01:12:45.000 Also, they couldn't get snipers on that roof because the slope was too steep.

01:12:48.000 We had members of Congress that are older than I think Daryl Issa was there.

01:12:53.000 I know a couple other guys were there too.

01:12:55.000 I mean, he's an older guy, he's older than me.

01:12:57.000 I think he was walking around up on it.

01:12:59.000 You know, and that's bogus.

01:13:01.000 That's totally bogus.

01:13:02.000 They put Trump in a bad position.

01:13:04.000 And, you know, that's the thing.

01:13:05.000 You'll never know.

01:13:06.000 You'll never know.

01:13:06.000 Well, here's another thing we should talk about Dead men tell no tales.

01:13:09.000 Here's another thing we should talk about.

01:13:10.000 There's a lot of people running around out there saying that that first Trump assassination was a setup and that it was a hoax and that Trump did it to try to get people to be more sympathetic to him.

01:13:19.000 Anybody who says that doesn't know anything about guns.

01:13:23.000 Because the shot was from, how far was it?

01:13:23.000 No.

01:13:27.000 Was it 140 yards?

01:13:28.000 Is that what it was, Jamie?

01:13:31.000 There is not a person on earth that could nick your ear at 140 yards reliably. 0.99

01:13:39.000 Not only that, but miss other shots first, kill someone behind you, shoot another person as well, and just nick his ear. 0.56

01:13:48.000 And just by the grace of God, by just sheer luck, he turns his head at the right time and he catches his ear. 0.98

01:13:56.000 Okay, 120 to 140 meters or 135 to 150 yards away during the rally.

01:14:03.000 He was positioned on top of an AGR International building, which provided a clear line of sight to the stage.

01:14:08.000 Just that alone is a tremendous failure of security.

01:14:12.000 The fact that they didn't search and look at these buildings that you don't have drones above scanning the area where you have a potential line of sight, an easy shot with someone with a scope.

01:14:25.000 My buddy Eli Crane, he's a sniper, and he said, I could have made that shot because.

01:14:33.000 He's a seal sniper, and my brother in law Cliff is a Marine sniper.

01:14:37.000 He said, I could have probably done it with steel sights, Tim.

01:14:40.000 Did the man have steel sights?

01:14:42.000 Yeah, he did have steel sights.

01:14:43.000 So he didn't have a scope.

01:14:45.000 The thing to me is that he got up there and people were pointing at him.

01:14:50.000 It was just a complete.

01:14:51.000 Is it a breakdown?

01:14:53.000 You think, is it a breakdown?

01:14:54.000 It's a breakdown if Tim Burchett sneaks into the back of a Leonard Skynyard concert and gets close to the stage.

01:15:02.000 That's a breakdown.

01:15:03.000 That to me is a complete capitulation.

01:15:05.000 They put Trump out there and there's people that don't like him.

01:15:08.000 You can say what you want to about programming and things.

01:15:12.000 I just think it's out there.

01:15:14.000 I think it is a reality and I think we better.

01:15:17.000 People better wake up because Washington, D.C. is not a, everybody wants to call it a swamp.

01:15:22.000 Okay, so it does have a scope.

01:15:24.000 It does have a scope.

01:15:25.000 It's a scope, or is that a scope?

01:15:26.000 Yeah, that's a red dot.

01:15:27.000 Okay.

01:15:28.000 I mean, I don't know if it's magnified.

01:15:30.000 It says optics attached to rail, AEMS optics.

01:15:35.000 So I don't know.

01:15:37.000 I'd have to talk to some of my guys out front about like what kind of a sight that is, what kind of optics that is.

01:15:44.000 I don't know if it's magnified or if it's like pistol optics.

01:15:47.000 But either way, even if it's just, if he's prone and he's got a rifle and it says, yeah, check it out, Jamie.

01:15:58.000 I think that's just the setup, though.

01:16:01.000 I don't think that's actually the, I think AMS optics, AEMS optics.

01:16:09.000 The optics.

01:16:13.000 Modified with a collapsible stock.

01:16:15.000 AEMS, red dot sight.

01:16:17.000 Yeah, so it's a red dot.

01:16:18.000 I don't know if that's magnified.

01:16:20.000 I don't think that's magnified.

01:16:23.000 I think that's just like what you get on a pistol.

01:16:24.000 It just makes it a little bit more accurate.

01:16:26.000 You know, I'd seen pictures of him just walking across an area, and you could tell he was carrying something that was fairly long.

01:16:32.000 Well, not only that, he was walking around the site with a rangefinder.

01:16:36.000 Oh, and he.

01:16:36.000 Yeah.

01:16:37.000 Are you playing golf?

01:16:37.000 He'd earlier put a drone up, I think.

01:16:39.000 Yeah.

01:16:40.000 If you're not playing golf and you have a rangefinder, you're trying to shoot something.

01:16:43.000 That's it.

01:16:44.000 100%.

01:16:44.000 There's the only two reasons to use a rangefinder you're playing golf, doing archery, or you're trying to shoot something with a rifle.

01:16:52.000 No other thing.

01:16:52.000 But these guys just keep doing this.

01:16:55.000 And I think we're going to have a hearing on that, not on that particular case, but just on what the CIA is doing and how they could do that today.

01:17:04.000 Well, they most certainly can do that today if they could do that in the 1960s.

01:17:07.000 There's a fantastic book called Chaos by Tom O'Neill.

01:17:10.000 It's all about the Manson family.

01:17:12.000 Have you ever read it?

01:17:12.000 I've seen it.

01:17:13.000 I haven't read it.

01:17:14.000 It's phenomenal and it's mind blowing.

01:17:17.000 You read it and it all documents Jolly West and the MK Ultra program and what they did with Jack.

01:17:24.000 Ruby and they visited Jack Ruby after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald.

01:17:27.000 Jack Ruby went insane and had a complete psychotic breakdown.

01:17:31.000 Said they're lighting Jews on fire and he was like going nuts and was sane before Ruby visited him.

01:17:37.000 This guy was known to be using LSD on people, unknowing people. 0.54

01:17:42.000 They ran Operation Midnight Climax, which is where the CIA actually ran brothels.

01:17:48.000 They had two way mirrors and they had these supposed prostitutes give these Johns alcohol that had LSD in it and then they'd monitor them.

01:17:57.000 They were doing that with people, unsuspecting people, dosing them up, trying to figure out how and what techniques they could use to manipulate people and to get people to do things they wanted them to do.

01:18:06.000 That's what the whole Manson family was all about.

01:18:09.000 And what the Manson family, what those killings did, the Tate LaBianca murders, what they did was they turned people against hippies.

01:18:17.000 Like people had this idea of hippies being peace and love and like, oh, it's a new world and everyone's just going to do acid and hug each other and drop out of society.

01:18:26.000 Then it all of a sudden became, no, they're psychotic killers and they're demonic and, you know, and, This is what we have to think about.

01:18:32.000 We need to ban all these drugs.

01:18:34.000 And that's what they did.

01:18:35.000 And it's kind of fascinating that they were able to do that and do that for so long.

01:18:39.000 And if it wasn't for the Freedom of Information Act request, and if it wasn't for finding those documents that they found that were just in storage that detailed all this, we wouldn't have any knowledge of this stuff.

01:18:50.000 Most of that stuff disappears.

01:18:51.000 I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff that we have.

01:18:54.000 I think this is just the tip of the iceberg.

01:18:56.000 There's probably a ton of those things that have gone on that they successfully hid. 0.61

01:19:01.000 And they got sloppy with this, and Jolly West seems like he was a completely insane person.

01:19:05.000 And how could you not be if you were running around dosing people with acid?

01:19:08.000 Dosing them with acid, yeah. 1.00

01:19:09.000 Running fake whorehouses. 1.00

01:19:11.000 I mean, it's nuts. 1.00

01:19:12.000 Story is nuts.

01:19:14.000 But the idea that they go, hey, we shouldn't do that anymore, even though it was successful, that doesn't track.

01:19:20.000 That doesn't track with how anything works.

01:19:23.000 That doesn't track with human nature.

01:19:24.000 It doesn't track with how the government works.

01:19:26.000 The idea that they don't have people right now.

01:19:29.000 And also, how many people are voluntarily on psychiatric medication that alters them?

01:19:35.000 And then without any sort of formal program like MKUltra, just using bots, just using AI, just using.

01:19:45.000 People's algorithm to turn them, radicalize them in certain ways.

01:19:50.000 Like, of course, they're going to do that.

01:19:52.000 Of course, they're going to try to figure out what they can do, how they can shift narratives in one direction or another.

01:19:59.000 I mean, that's what they do.

01:20:00.000 And Trump's a threat to their machine.

01:20:02.000 Of course.

01:20:03.000 I don't ever think we'll ever find the answer to it.

01:20:06.000 I don't think we'll ever, somebody's going to come forward and maybe in our lifetime they might, but by then everybody will be gone again.

01:20:13.000 Well, where's the toxicology?

01:20:15.000 Examination on Thomas Crooks.

01:20:17.000 Let me find out what he was on.

01:20:18.000 Wait a minute.

01:20:18.000 They cremated him.

01:20:19.000 Yeah, they cremated him really quickly.

01:20:21.000 Not only that, like, why was his place professionally scrubbed?

01:20:21.000 Really?

01:20:26.000 He didn't even have silverware in his house.

01:20:28.000 He had no computers.

01:20:29.000 He had no social media.

01:20:32.000 No internet footprint at all.

01:20:34.000 And then they found stuff that led them to believe that maybe he had international accounts, but he didn't have it.

01:20:39.000 You know, it's just constant, constant.

01:20:42.000 And it just happens over every course, every time.

01:20:45.000 Not only that, but they documented metadata.

01:20:48.000 That tracks specific phones from the Virginia area out near where the FBI area is to his home multiple times.

01:20:56.000 Why?

01:20:57.000 He's a kid.

01:20:58.000 He's just a young weirdo kid, and someone's visiting him over and over again.

01:21:04.000 His parents were allegedly counselors, I think.

01:21:07.000 And that makes the whole thing even that much more mysterious.

01:21:11.000 It's all weird, and we don't have any answers, and no one's asking questions.

01:21:14.000 It's like, bye bye, went away.

01:21:16.000 You ask the questions, you're still not going to get the answers.

01:21:18.000 Right.

01:21:19.000 I mean, that will be one of those things that 30, 40 years from now people are going to be reading books about it and go, what the hell was going on?

01:21:25.000 It's like the Kennedy assassination.

01:21:26.000 You know, in the Kennedy assassination, we had a committee meeting on that.

01:21:30.000 And I asked a question from this doctor who was in the emergency room and he brought Kennedy in.

01:21:36.000 And he clearly brought a poster in to show that clearly the bullets had come from two different directions.

01:21:44.000 And that was, so it had to be two bullets.

01:21:47.000 It couldn't have been a very quick ricochet, obviously.

01:21:50.000 And, um, The whole thing, you know, and no press, nobody covered it, nothing.

01:21:56.000 To me, that was blockbuster news.

01:21:58.000 I thought that would have been, but again, the big boys didn't see fit to put that out.

01:22:03.000 And there we are. 0.62

01:22:04.000 Well, just the magic bullet theory alone, like, shut up. 1.00

01:22:07.000 That bullet's ridiculous. 0.99

01:22:08.000 Well, that gun is called a Man Linker carbine. 0.98

01:22:12.000 I got one, actually.

01:22:13.000 I think it's 7.62 Italian.

01:22:16.000 It's called the only gun that never won a war.

01:22:18.000 You could have gone to a Western Auto and bought an M1 with scopes on it.

01:22:22.000 And made a much better shot than that thing.

01:22:24.000 I mean, the whole thing just stinks.

01:22:26.000 And the gun they show holding up and the gun that they had later, you know, the whole thing is just screwy. 0.98

01:22:31.000 Screwy.

01:22:32.000 And because we didn't ask questions back then.

01:22:34.000 Yeah.

01:22:34.000 Well, no one had information.

01:22:36.000 So what questions could you even ask?

01:22:38.000 There's a great book on it called Best Evidence by David Lifton.

01:22:42.000 He was an accountant that was hired to go over the Warren Commission report.

01:22:47.000 He started finding all these inconsistencies and contradictions in the Warren Commission report.

01:22:51.000 Then he wrote this book on all the different things that are wrong with the Kennedy assassination and all the different things that we've been told that couldn't possibly be true.

01:23:00.000 It's very disturbing, including how many people that were witnesses that died.

01:23:04.000 Witnesses at the scene in Dallas that died from weird circumstances and the odds of those people dying.

01:23:12.000 Car accidents, suicide, murder, robbery.

01:23:15.000 It's just too strange.

01:23:16.000 And people they can't find anymore that were in those pictures.

01:23:21.000 They cleaned up a lot of the loose ends.

01:23:23.000 Yeah.

01:23:23.000 Quick.

01:23:24.000 But back then, again, you couldn't ask the questions.

01:23:26.000 You didn't have the internet.

01:23:28.000 And now it's.

01:23:30.000 But nobody's even talking about it.

01:23:32.000 You can't get anybody to bring up anything on Trump getting shot.

01:23:36.000 No.

01:23:36.000 Other than they put out it's a fake.

01:23:39.000 His ear healed itself and all this stuff.

01:23:42.000 Listen, his ear was clearly bleeding.

01:23:44.000 He got shot in the ear.

01:23:45.000 You can see the blood come out right away.

01:23:47.000 It's dripping down the side of his face.

01:23:49.000 And the idea that that's a setup, you cannot be that accurate.

01:23:53.000 You definitely can't be that accurate with a red dot at 140 yards. 0.60

01:23:56.000 You can hit him.

01:23:57.000 You could definitely hit him center mass, no problem. 0.99

01:24:00.000 Maybe even you hit him in the head if you're really good and you're prone. 0.96

01:24:03.000 But nicking his ear like that on purpose and to be there and say, hey, I just want you to nick my ear just a little piece. 0.75

01:24:09.000 Like, that's there's no.

01:24:11.000 There's not a chance that that's a fake.

01:24:14.000 And the guy behind him's dead.

01:24:15.000 So, what are you saying?

01:24:16.000 Do you think that's fake?

01:24:17.000 That's the setup?

01:24:17.000 Yeah, the fireman lost his life.

01:24:19.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

01:24:20.000 The whole thing's crazy.

01:24:22.000 But it's just this thing where people hate him so much, and the narrative in the media, this Trump derangement narrative that you see in the media, is so strong, and people are so programmed by it.

01:24:32.000 And for the average person that has a very involved job, you're working all day, and then you have a family, and you have a life, and you don't have time to really go into depth about what's real and what's not real.

01:24:46.000 And you got that Russia collusion stuff shoved down your throat by mainstream media for years, and you believe all of it.

01:24:52.000 And so you really believed that he's a terrible person, a Russian agent, all these different things.

01:24:52.000 100%.

01:24:57.000 So you want someone to kill him. 0.98

01:24:59.000 Yeah, there's a group of folks, young folks, that are starting to ask some questions. 0.81

01:25:03.000 You know, my wife's son, Tyler, he lives on the farm there with us, and he's been asking me inquisitive questions because he doesn't buy it.

01:25:03.000 Yes.

01:25:15.000 And a lot of those kids in that generation, I'm glad, I don't know if it's the Charlie Kirk effect, I don't know what that is.

01:25:20.000 That's a, that's a, Definitely affect on it because a lot of people don't buy that story either.

01:25:23.000 No.

01:25:23.000 But it's also the internet.

01:25:25.000 The internet has, there's enough independent reporters out there that are untied, independent journalists that are untied to any organization that has a narrative they're supposed to push, and they're uncovering real information that's screwy.

01:25:37.000 Right.

01:25:38.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:25:39.000 Well, and also when they do, though, they get trounced upon by the so called mainstream media.

01:25:45.000 But their numbers, I mean, my gosh, I read somewhere that the amount of media or the amount of information people get from the mainstream media is just.

01:25:45.000 Of course.

01:25:55.000 It's diminishing.

01:25:56.000 Well, COVID sunk them.

01:25:58.000 The way they handled COVID and the way they carried water for the pharmaceutical drug industry. 1.00

01:26:02.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:26:03.000 And Fauci. 1.00

01:26:04.000 Yeah, Fauci, and now he's going to walk.

01:26:06.000 Is he going to walk?

01:26:07.000 Because there's some talk about him possibly being set up for perjury, but there's only a week to go.

01:26:11.000 Yeah, there's a week to go.

01:26:12.000 I just don't.

01:26:13.000 He'll get a stern letter from somebody in Washington.

01:26:16.000 That drives me crazy, man.

01:26:16.000 Oh.

01:26:18.000 I saw, you know, the big boys, you'd go down to the big hardware chain, and they were allowing people to go in, but they closed down the little local ones, and they closed the churches and the synagogues and everybody down.

01:26:29.000 Yep.

01:26:29.000 And then we just all got in line.

01:26:31.000 They just rang the bell, and we're like Pavlov's dog.

01:26:33.000 And we just all got in line.

01:26:34.000 I remember at my hospital in Knoxville, one of them, I came out there to get tested.

01:26:39.000 I got tested.

01:26:40.000 I can't tell how many times I got tested, and I never tested positive, never took the vaccine or any of that.

01:26:44.000 But I can remember coming out there, and they had these morgues they were setting up just in anticipation of what.

01:26:52.000 And I just thought, man, if this doesn't work out, this is the ultimate psyop because people are going to get rich off this crazy thing.

01:26:59.000 And they did.

01:27:01.000 Greatest transfer of wealth.

01:27:02.000 Unbelievably.

01:27:03.000 Unbelievably, yeah. 0.70

01:27:05.000 And Congress just did it.

01:27:06.000 We just did it and didn't ask any questions.

01:27:08.000 Well, it seems like there's a real pandemic right now on this cruise ship.

01:27:11.000 You know about that hentavirus?

01:27:13.000 That seems really crazy.

01:27:13.000 Yeah.

01:27:15.000 And ticks. 0.72

01:27:16.000 Watch that thing.

01:27:17.000 The tick thing is nuts.

01:27:18.000 Especially because of meat, because of gates.

01:27:18.000 Yeah.

01:27:20.000 Uh huh.

01:27:21.000 Well, there's boxes.

01:27:23.000 People are finding, I don't know if this is true because I've seen many reports on it, but I'm just going to say what I saw, that farmers and ranchers are finding boxes of ticks on their property.

01:27:33.000 Now, I don't know if that's fake.

01:27:35.000 I don't know if someone's setting that up to pretend they found these boxes of ticks.

01:27:40.000 But there's videos of these people finding boxes of ticks.

01:27:44.000 Now, what they'll say is they'll probably say they're sterile ticks and that we're planting them out there so we can diminish the population, is what they'll say.

01:27:52.000 But anytime they try to mess with the balance of nature, it never goes right.

01:27:56.000 Is that what they're saying?

01:27:59.000 You're getting it right here.

01:28:01.000 I don't believe you have a right to go to someone's property and drop off sterile ticks.

01:28:06.000 No way in hell.

01:28:07.000 That's crazy either way.

01:28:08.000 But I have a good friend of mine who got bit by the Lone Star tick and has that AlphaGal problem.

01:28:14.000 Yeah, a guy came out of my house yesterday looking at putting gutters up at our house.

01:28:18.000 And Dad got me, he said, and I said, You did what?

01:28:20.000 He goes, Yeah, I can't eat anything, any meat produced by a mammal.

01:28:24.000 I was like, Yeah.

01:28:24.000 Yes.

01:28:26.000 So my buddy, he had it, and my friend Evan, so he had it for a little while, and then he did a bunch of treatments and got off of it, and then started eating steak again.

01:28:37.000 And he was fine for about a year and a half, and then it came back stronger than ever.

01:28:41.000 And he just can't shake it.

01:28:42.000 He's been around that long, so I don't know.

01:28:44.000 He can only eat eggs.

01:28:45.000 I mean, he's basically eating eggs and vegetables.

01:28:47.000 That's all he's eating.

01:28:48.000 And every time he tries to deviate, he has a horrible reaction.

01:28:51.000 It makes, for people that don't know, your body allergic to red meat.

01:28:55.000 And who has got genetically made meat now?

01:28:55.000 Right.

01:28:58.000 Yeah.

01:28:59.000 Bill Gates.

01:29:00.000 Yeah.

01:29:00.000 Well, they're doing things with mosquitoes and they're messing around with nature in a way that no one's given you permission to.

01:29:07.000 The general public does not want you doing this.

01:29:09.000 If they could vote on it, they'd say, no way.

01:29:12.000 It's like those beagles that they show that Fauci.

01:29:12.000 You can't.

01:29:15.000 I grew up with beagles.

01:29:17.000 Sport number one, sport number two.

01:29:18.000 They are the greatest dogs.

01:29:19.000 They are the best dogs ever.

01:29:21.000 And, um, My Buzz was a cavalier mix, but he was, we think, I'm not really sure, but he was a rescue dog.

01:29:29.000 And that poor thing had never been on grass.

01:29:30.000 And I see those dogs acting just like poor Buzz.

01:29:33.000 He couldn't climb stairs and he was mistreated.

01:29:36.000 He can't hear very well.

01:29:38.000 And he's the sweetest dadgum dog, though. 0.94

01:29:40.000 And those freaking beagles, I just, that rips my heart out.

01:29:44.000 Because there's, right now, I've talked to scientists in the labs and there's everything we can do now, we can do in the lab without, pretty much without, without cruelty. 0.95

01:29:52.000 Without cruelty.

01:29:53.000 Without, yeah.

01:29:54.000 You know, bringing in beagles.

01:29:55.000 And why beagles?

01:29:57.000 The whole thing just stinks. 0.99

01:29:58.000 It's disgusting. 0.99

01:29:59.000 It's very evil. 0.91

01:30:00.000 I mean, look, I don't even like when they do it with rats.

01:30:03.000 Yeah.

01:30:03.000 But doing it with puppies is insane.

01:30:06.000 And then euthanizing them after you've forced them to be bistrated.

01:30:10.000 It's horrible.

01:30:12.000 Yeah, he did some evil stuff.

01:30:14.000 And he lied, like clearly lied.

01:30:16.000 Lied to the American people about transmission, lied to the American people about preventing infection.

01:30:16.000 I can lie.

01:30:21.000 I can remember when they brought him to Congress.

01:30:24.000 And, um, I brought him into a meeting I was in, and I was in the back, and he's a little short guy.

01:30:28.000 I was like, Who the heck is that?

01:30:29.000 And he said, That's Fauci.

01:30:31.000 And they brought him in, and everybody started cheering.

01:30:33.000 I thought I had a bad vibe on him then. 1.00

01:30:37.000 And then you talk to gay folks, you know, he was involved in the AZT. 1.00

01:30:42.000 Yeah.

01:30:43.000 And they got a bad feeling towards him.

01:30:46.000 Sure.

01:30:46.000 I mean, he's the culprit.

01:30:47.000 He's the villain in that movie, The Dallas Buyers Club.

01:30:51.000 That's about him preventing people from taking alternative medications.

01:30:54.000 Does that sound familiar?

01:30:55.000 Yeah, exactly what they did during COVID.

01:30:57.000 Right now, we're doing it.

01:30:59.000 I was in Blount County yesterday for a police officer's memorial service, and an officer came up and said, you know, My child suffers from a rare disease, and we can't get to this treatment.

01:31:12.000 Can you put a bug in the presence?

01:31:13.000 Well, sure, you know, we'll try.

01:31:15.000 And Trump's doing that a lot now with RFK.

01:31:19.000 Yeah, RFK Jr., people, they'll try to trash him, and that's fine.

01:31:23.000 He's a tough guy.

01:31:24.000 But a lot of those trials now are going forward cancer and other things.

01:31:31.000 And that's another reason they don't like Trump.

01:31:33.000 Man, you talk about, I mean, you got big pharma, you got big agriculture, and And a couple others, and they run the table, Joe.

01:31:44.000 They run the table.

01:31:45.000 And I told somebody, and of course, big energy oil, we get zero. 0.96

01:31:51.000 I know it's a commodity, and I'm going to get lit up that oil's a commodity in the world market, but we get zero oil from Iran.

01:32:01.000 Zero.

01:32:02.000 We export oil right now, and yet the price is going through the roof.

01:32:06.000 It's going through the roof because it can.

01:32:08.000 They can.

01:32:09.000 And I always say, well, How does that gasoline in the pumps go up?

01:32:16.000 They've already been processed, already been paid for.

01:32:18.000 How does it go up exponentially just overnight, 20 cents a gallon or whatever?

01:32:22.000 And how does that, and if that's because it's a commodity and Birchett, you don't understand, how come that quart of oil at the hardware store doesn't go up like that?

01:32:33.000 It's processed oil.

01:32:34.000 Wouldn't it do the same?

01:32:35.000 And of course, diesel.

01:32:38.000 Your first cut, I think, is kerosene.

01:32:41.000 Then it's diesel.

01:32:42.000 And diesel, and I've got a diesel dually.

01:32:43.000 I filled it up.

01:32:44.000 Yesterday is over $100.

01:32:47.000 You know, it is the cheapest, it is the roughest cut.

01:32:50.000 You know, that's why you have these incredible filters because it's dirty.

01:32:55.000 And gasoline is the third or fourth cut, and it ought to be the most expensive, but it's not.

01:33:01.000 I just think it's a racket.

01:33:02.000 And every time they'll hold the hearings and they'll come down there, and, you know, and the oil companies will, you know, they'll shake that money tree.

01:33:11.000 They know how to do it on both sides of the aisle.

01:33:13.000 It happens all the time.

01:33:14.000 I remember when Bush was leaving office.

01:33:17.000 Before Obama took office, where gasoline just went through the roof.

01:33:22.000 Everybody was freaking out, and no one could explain it.

01:33:25.000 And it was just, I was like, look, they can.

01:33:27.000 This is like the last chance they can to just jack up the prices, jack up the profits, hold everybody hostage.

01:33:33.000 You have to get gas.

01:33:34.000 You got to drive to work.

01:33:35.000 Got an oil man in the White House.

01:33:36.000 Yeah.

01:33:37.000 And they just jacked it up.

01:33:39.000 It's payoff time.

01:33:40.000 I just, and I'm a capitalist.

01:33:40.000 Yeah.

01:33:43.000 I'm a heartless capitalist.

01:33:45.000 I make skateboards.

01:33:47.000 You make skateboards?

01:33:48.000 It's cheaper than a psychiatrist.

01:33:48.000 Yeah.

01:33:52.000 I guess I'm a little bit like Trump.

01:33:54.000 I like ketchup on my steak, although I think he gets his well done.

01:33:56.000 I get my medium rare.

01:33:58.000 You put ketchup on your steak?

01:33:59.000 You should go to jail.

01:34:00.000 Does the Baptist Church got a bus? 1.00

01:34:02.000 Yes, I do.

01:34:02.000 Yes, they do.

01:34:03.000 That's terrible.

01:34:04.000 Anyway, no, I make skateboards.

01:34:05.000 So I make this crazy skateboard for Tulsi Gabbard. 0.81

01:34:09.000 She's a buddy of mine.

01:34:12.000 I love her.

01:34:12.000 She's kind of a.

01:34:13.000 I love her too.

01:34:14.000 And she's from Hawaii.

01:34:14.000 She is wonderful.

01:34:16.000 So in Trump's first.

01:34:17.000 Oh, that's great.

01:34:17.000 There it is.

01:34:18.000 Okay.

01:34:19.000 I made that skateboard.

01:34:19.000 Your Bigfoot skateboard?

01:34:20.000 Yeah.

01:34:21.000 I put my sticker on it.

01:34:22.000 It's made out of bamboo, oak, and And banana fibers off the banana plant.

01:34:26.000 Oh, wow.

01:34:27.000 And she outs me during the Trump's first.

01:34:32.000 There's my guys at Pluto Sports.

01:34:33.000 They put my wheels and trucks on.

01:34:34.000 It's just, they're guys I was in high school with.

01:34:38.000 But anyway.

01:34:39.000 Oh, yeah.

01:34:39.000 You skate?

01:34:39.000 Yeah.

01:34:40.000 But I don't do the fancy stuff.

01:34:42.000 You don't do tricks?

01:34:42.000 And not anymore.

01:34:43.000 I'm 61, dude.

01:34:44.000 I don't heal like I did when I was 51, much less when I was a young man.

01:34:47.000 You're only a few years older than me.

01:34:49.000 Well, you look good.

01:34:51.000 I'm just, you know, people think I'm on steroids, but I'm naturally this huge.

01:34:51.000 Sorry, man.

01:34:51.000 Thank you.

01:34:57.000 So, Tulsi says, Birch it.

01:34:59.000 I say, hey, Tulsi.

01:35:00.000 She says, And she's walking in here to State of the Union, cameras, people are in.

01:35:04.000 Where's my dead gum skateboard?

01:35:05.000 My birthday's next month. 0.99

01:35:06.000 I'm like, oh, crap. 0.98

01:35:07.000 So I make her this skateboard, right? 0.93

01:35:10.000 And that picture comes out.

01:35:11.000 And then people all over the world are saying, where can I get a birchet board?

01:35:14.000 Where can I get a birchet board?

01:35:16.000 So I'm Mr. You know, I'm trying to be ethical and, you know, and I go down to see the ethics guy, and this little attorney tells me, he says, well, Congressman, you know, you got to, you can't do that.

01:35:28.000 You can't call it a birchet board.

01:35:30.000 You can't, you know, I said, well, my wife's got to own the company. 0.97

01:35:33.000 And they think, well, maybe. 0.53

01:35:35.000 And then you, but you can't work there and all this other stuff.

01:35:38.000 And you know, everybody down there's got a side hustle.

01:35:41.000 Right.

01:35:41.000 And I've said, dude, so you're telling me I can do insider stock trading, but I can't sell a dadgum skateboard?

01:35:47.000 And the guy said, that's correct.

01:35:49.000 So anyway, I got about 35 skateboards in my barn.

01:35:53.000 I just keep making them.

01:35:54.000 And I call my attorney.

01:35:55.000 You make them yourself?

01:35:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:56.000 That's why I say it's cheaper than a psychiatrist.

01:35:58.000 So you make them by hand?

01:35:59.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:36:00.000 You know, I have them.

01:36:02.000 That's pretty cool.

01:36:03.000 I make them, I'm cheap.

01:36:04.000 But so I make them out of bamboo that I cut.

01:36:08.000 A buddy of mine, Chris Pointer, has got a bunch at his house.

01:36:10.000 But I go to the synagogue, behind the synagogue on Kingston Pike, there's a bunch of bamboo, and they used to let me cut it.

01:36:15.000 Now that when this airs, they probably won't.

01:36:17.000 But and then I get oak pallets and banana fibers, they grow off the banana plant.

01:36:24.000 So, but anyway, I grow those.

01:36:25.000 Did you laminate it all?

01:36:26.000 Yeah.

01:36:27.000 Well, I used fiberglass with that, and I'm trying to get away from the carcinogens, you know, the cancer causing.

01:36:32.000 So I use Titmon 3 glue, it's waterproof and water based.

01:36:38.000 And then I just sand them all down because you scuff them up after you ride them around anyway.

01:36:44.000 So I make them out of that and I laminate the wood.

01:36:46.000 And the steel laborers needed a project one year when I was mayor of Knox County.

01:36:53.000 And somebody said, hey, these guys want to make a skateboard press.

01:36:58.000 They said, do you want one?

01:36:59.000 I said, yeah, I'll buy the metal.

01:37:00.000 And I'm thinking, they're going to build me this little thing.

01:37:03.000 No.

01:37:03.000 I mean, it's like three burly union metal workers have to put this thing in the back of my daddy gum pickup truck.

01:37:09.000 It is a monster.

01:37:11.000 And I can press them, and I've got clamps, and I do all of it.

01:37:15.000 But anyway.

01:37:16.000 That's pretty cool.

01:37:17.000 Yeah.

01:37:19.000 But I can't sell them. 1.00

01:37:20.000 My wife's like, What are you doing out there?

01:37:23.000 And I said, Well, come out there and look at my boards, honey. 0.84

01:37:25.000 I'm making skateboards.

01:37:27.000 And she always.

01:37:28.000 Look at you out there.

01:37:29.000 That's one I laminated up, or it's side laminated.

01:37:34.000 My wife always says, Honey, you go to it.

01:37:36.000 She says, I'm sure they laughed at the guy that created the pool noodle.

01:37:40.000 That's her line.

01:37:41.000 Always.

01:37:42.000 Probably, right?

01:37:43.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:37:44.000 It was just a piece of insulation off some old rental house, and he threw it, and his kids were swimming with it.

01:37:48.000 And he thought, man, I'm going to take that 12 cent piece of foam, take it to Walmart, and sell it for $6 a piece.

01:37:54.000 And now he's probably sitting on some island somewhere laughing at us right now.

01:37:57.000 But no, I make them, and I've been trying to.

01:38:01.000 Anyway, it's very frustrating.

01:38:03.000 I got a meeting with the attorneys and the chairman of the ethics committee, who is a really good guy.

01:38:08.000 He and I came to Congress together, and we're trying to work it out.

01:38:12.000 It's not even that it's a lot of money in handmade skateboarding. 0.76

01:38:15.000 The fact that you could have insider trading, you can't sell handmade skateboards, that's ridiculous. 0.93

01:38:20.000 A little ridiculous, isn't it? 0.83

01:38:21.000 It's also like, what? 0.96

01:38:24.000 Because you're famous?

01:38:25.000 Because you're on television?

01:38:26.000 Somebody's gonna, yeah, they're gonna sway my vote because they bought a dad gum skateboard from me.

01:38:30.000 Yeah, I took one to an auction and I think somebody paid $5,200 for one of those dad gum skates.

01:38:37.000 Whoa.

01:38:38.000 And then some other guy comes up and says, Tim, I was at the bar and I missed it.

01:38:42.000 If I give them $5,200, will you make me one?

01:38:44.000 So I got a couple, and then my friends in Claiborne County, the mountains up there, they chair the committee and they asked me, and I thought I was making one, and then when I got out of there, I was making three.

01:38:58.000 And then people just like them and they put them on their wall.

01:38:58.000 So, I don't know.

01:39:01.000 I mean, you know, you're not going to be in the Olympics with Tony Hawk's not going to go, hey, Tim Burchett, will you make me a board?

01:39:06.000 You know, but it's just for cruising down the sidewalk kind of thing.

01:39:11.000 That's awesome.

01:39:12.000 That's awesome.

01:39:12.000 It sucks that they won't let you sell it, though.

01:39:14.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:39:16.000 You sell your soul, but I can't sell a skateboard.

01:39:19.000 Speaking of selling, you were telling me earlier before we started, and I said, save this because I want to talk about this later.

01:39:27.000 Yeah.

01:39:28.000 How many millions of dollars a week?

01:39:30.000 About $40 million a week.

01:39:34.000 I was on a podcast and they were talking about it, and Sean Ryan, and he had.

01:39:34.000 It all happened.

01:39:44.000 I love that dude.

01:39:44.000 Yeah, great American.

01:39:46.000 I love him.

01:39:46.000 Good man.

01:39:48.000 He's a good Christian man.

01:39:49.000 He's been through it.

01:39:50.000 You know, he's an incredible guy that they've asked to do horrible things.

01:39:55.000 And people like that, I give them a wide path.

01:39:57.000 I let them slide on a lot of things.

01:39:59.000 But he's a good daddy, and.

01:40:02.000 You know, he just and he he he worries about our country.

01:40:05.000 He reminds me a lot of my dad because dad was you couldn't wake my dad up to the day he died over the top of him, always by his big toe because he because he might wake up on one of those islands, pinned me against the wall.

01:40:17.000 Right.

01:40:18.000 His Marine on Peleliu and Okinawa.

01:40:20.000 And yeah, daddy's colonel was a guy named Chesty Puller, Colonel Puller.

01:40:24.000 You can look him up, he was a Marine Corps legend, but and my daddy loved him.

01:40:27.000 But anyway, the I'm on this podcast with Sean.

01:40:34.000 And he says, Hey, I want you to introduce Eli Crane.

01:40:36.000 He's a Navy SEAL in Congress.

01:40:38.000 He said, I want you to go on this podcast with Sean Ryan.

01:40:41.000 I said, I don't know who Sean Ryan is.

01:40:44.000 I'm not a podcast guy.

01:40:45.000 My daughter always says, Give me your phone.

01:40:47.000 I don't know how to do it.

01:40:48.000 And all of a sudden, I got a cool picture of her on there.

01:40:50.000 I don't even know how she did it.

01:40:52.000 So I'm on there, and he calls me and says, I want you to meet with this guy.

01:40:57.000 He goes by the name Legend, and that's not his real name.

01:41:01.000 But he.

01:41:04.000 He comes up, he comes into the office and he has to, he can't use his real name and says, Look, they're getting $40 million a week.

01:41:12.000 I said, Who is he?

01:41:13.000 He said, The Taliban.

01:41:14.000 And he's a, he's a, um, Afghani that fought for us.

01:41:19.000 And so he's dual citizenship.

01:41:21.000 Introduced, you know, I talked to the last democratically elected president of Afghanistan through him on a call.

01:41:29.000 And, um, and he's a dear friend.

01:41:31.000 And he comes by all the time and we talk.

01:41:33.000 And, and so, John Stout in my office, who's like, he's the best.

01:41:39.000 I mean, this guy, his mom and daddy were in a very tragic car accident, and they prayed through it, and they both lived.

01:41:47.000 I mean, daddy had to get, you know, he was banged up, and his mom's head got banged up pretty bad.

01:41:52.000 And John's just, he is the quintessential staffer because he's so loyal and he loves this country.

01:41:59.000 And so he said, Boss, I think I got an idea.

01:42:01.000 I said, All right.

01:42:02.000 So he figured out this monitoring thing where what they do is they send.

01:42:08.000 They send pallets of cash to them through whatever.

01:42:12.000 And there are three banks over there that are owned by the Taliban. 0.94

01:42:18.000 And everything goes through them. 0.86

01:42:19.000 You know, the Lord takes 10% with tithe, but the Taliban takes a hell of a lot more. 0.97

01:42:25.000 They take it right off the top and on ingress and egress. 0.68

01:42:28.000 If you give them money or take money away, if you spend money or put money in or whatever, you take in or pay out, they get their cut off of it every dadgum time.

01:42:38.000 And so I'm thinking, this can't be right.

01:42:41.000 So I got a memo on my desk from the State Department.

01:42:44.000 It's stamped classified, so I can't talk about it.

01:42:47.000 But then it's stamped unclassified under it, so I can talk about it.

01:42:52.000 Basically, said under the Biden administration, they think we gave them $5 billion with a B. $5 billion.

01:42:58.000 Now, and you've got NGOs.

01:43:02.000 Now, how many NGOs do you think operate out of over there?

01:43:06.000 Oh, how many?

01:43:07.000 Over a thousand.

01:43:08.000 And then you throw in the United Nations.

01:43:11.000 Out of Afghanistan?

01:43:12.000 Yeah, it's just.

01:43:13.000 There's a thousand NGOs? 0.97

01:43:14.000 It's the freakingest, it's the biggest scam.

01:43:17.000 NGOs, I wrote a letter to the president months ago, and they've tapped the brakes on the NGOs. 0.56

01:43:22.000 I mean, some of them don't have any money, and some of them got a lot.

01:43:26.000 Elon Musk told me, like I really know him.

01:43:29.000 I mean, I hung out with him a couple times and we talked.

01:43:31.000 He called me Tim, which I thought was pretty cool.

01:43:34.000 But he says, Tim, here's how these NGOs work.

01:43:39.000 He said, you know, they start out as a good organization, maybe during Bush 1 or Bush 2.

01:43:44.000 You know, a lot of those limousine liberals, do gooders, you know, they start these organizations.

01:43:48.000 And they set them up to do, you know, feed the starving children or whatever.

01:43:56.000 They don't have any money in them.

01:43:58.000 And some billionaire who we all know you can just name them, they'll drop a million in one of those.

01:44:04.000 And then this unelected bureaucrat in Washington, D.C. says, Hey, they got a million dollars.

01:44:08.000 This place is legit.

01:44:09.000 And so they give them money.

01:44:11.000 They put the money in there for them.

01:44:13.000 And then they start running federal money through that, yours and my tax dollars.

01:44:19.000 And he told me he thinks they stole over a trillion dollars.

01:44:22.000 And I thought, at the time, I thought that was crazy.

01:44:25.000 But then I start looking at.

01:44:29.000 You know, what happened in Minnesota?

01:44:32.000 19 billion?

01:44:33.000 Joe, when I went to the state legislature, our state budget of Tennessee wasn't 19 billion dollars years ago, and so it's a lot more than that now.

01:44:42.000 But that's the amount of fraud and waste and abuse that go on.

01:44:46.000 Well, so backtrack to this deal.

01:44:50.000 So I get involved with it, and it's just unbelievable.

01:44:56.000 It took me two years, I passed the bill twice.

01:44:59.000 The second time, my buddy John Stout in the office there, he comes up with an even stronger version.

01:45:04.000 And so we send it to the Senate.

01:45:06.000 And so we find out that there's a Senate staffer that somebody said he's like the unofficial ambassador to Afghanistan.

01:45:17.000 I've literally read where he said, it appears to me, complimentary things about the Taliban. 0.95

01:45:24.000 Now, those people want to kill us. 0.98

01:45:26.000 As I like to say, they'll hate us for free. 0.83

01:45:28.000 We don't need to give them any money.

01:45:29.000 Well, it's like pulling teeth through my committee.

01:45:33.000 The Democrats raised ruckus because obviously they don't want anybody looking at those NGOs.

01:45:39.000 And the NGO money, now get this, it maybe a little bit goes to feed some starving kid, but a lot of it gets washed and it goes back to the good old United States of America.

01:45:51.000 Are you familiar with dark money and campaigns?

01:45:53.000 Yes.

01:45:54.000 You know, and the folks back home, the day before the election, the people for American justice approved this ad.

01:46:03.000 Did you know Tim Burchett?

01:46:05.000 You know, pushed his second grade girlfriend down in a mud puddle and never apologized.

01:46:10.000 That's what happened, you know, and then paid for by the people for America justice, you know.

01:46:14.000 And then, but what's happened is that money that you're sending over there is coming back in the form of dark money.

01:46:20.000 And we've got, and I think both parties are involved with it at some point.

01:46:24.000 I think the Democrats have had a run of it, and they've got it pretty much closed.

01:46:31.000 They've got a pretty good market going on it, in my opinion.

01:46:33.000 And there are probably some Republicans I think I know of that have some dark money, too.

01:46:39.000 And not necessarily from this, but from other things.

01:46:42.000 And then you start talking about the UN.

01:46:44.000 The UN has got, and everybody says, so that's UN, Burchett.

01:46:47.000 We don't have anything.

01:46:48.000 Heck, we don't. 0.96

01:46:49.000 We sponsor the freaking UN. 0.98

01:46:50.000 If it was up to me, I'd pull out of the dadgum UN. 0.99

01:46:53.000 They are nothing. 0.99

01:46:54.000 All they do is get Americans killed. 1.00

01:46:57.000 They talk ugly about us and they take our dadgum money and we let them do it because crooked politicians are in bed. 1.00

01:47:04.000 Washington is crooked as a dog's leg, Joe. 0.96

01:47:07.000 And this bill makes them report it and follow the money so we know where it's going. 0.84

01:47:12.000 And if it's going to the Taliban, it's out.

01:47:16.000 Can you just explain to me how they would justify sending money to the Taliban and what is.

01:47:23.000 What is the circumstance?

01:47:24.000 They justify it by saying it doesn't happen.

01:47:27.000 They justify it by saying it doesn't happen.

01:47:29.000 But I'm talking to a guy, this guy, a legend, who's got people on the ground.

01:47:34.000 And the people over there, the Freedom Fire, are saying, please quit sending them money.

01:47:37.000 Please.

01:47:38.000 And, you know, when we left over there, you know, we left how many billions of dollars worth of armaments on the ground?

01:47:46.000 They said, oh, you know, I mean, I heard Democrats saying, well, those people can't fly those high end choppers.

01:47:52.000 Well, you know who could? 1.00

01:47:53.000 The dadgum Chinese who were on the ground before we got out of there. 1.00

01:47:57.000 So it's just a crooked game. 1.00

01:47:59.000 It's a small portion.

01:48:00.000 I know.

01:48:02.000 But explain how's the money getting to them?

01:48:04.000 Okay, it is sent to them through these NGOs and other organizations.

01:48:10.000 So we fund the NGOs?

01:48:10.000 And so.

01:48:12.000 Correct.

01:48:13.000 The NGOs send money to the Taliban.

01:48:15.000 Why would they do that?

01:48:18.000 Because they get a cutoff of it. 0.95

01:48:20.000 They don't care.

01:48:21.000 Okay, so the Taliban gets $40 million and then they send that money back.

01:48:26.000 Some of it comes back and some of it doesn't.

01:48:30.000 But as long as they get a piece of it, they don't care how much the Taliban gets. 0.94

01:48:33.000 Right. 0.61

01:48:34.000 This requires a report on any cash assistant programs in Afghanistan and how the U.S. keeps the Taliban from assessing that.

01:48:41.000 And it requires a report on the Afghan Fund and the Afghanistan Central Bank.

01:48:46.000 And these reports, of course, would shed light on the Taliban's influence over the Afghanistan Central Bank.

01:48:52.000 And you can research it.

01:48:54.000 A lot of it is these do gooder programs.

01:48:56.000 You know, oh man, we're taking care of the orphans.

01:48:58.000 Care of this, and you know good and well, they ain't taking care of any dadgum orphans, they're stealing the money to do it, and it just infuriates me.

01:49:06.000 And then I hear them say, Well, it's not happening.

01:49:07.000 I say, Well, if it's not happening, then dadgum it passed the bill.

01:49:10.000 What's it hurt?

01:49:11.000 What's it hurt?

01:49:12.000 We pass worthless legislation every dadgum day, and you know, and I can't get a peep.

01:49:18.000 I said to Thone when he came in when King Charles was in, which was kind of funny too.

01:49:22.000 I had a funny conversation with King Charles.

01:49:24.000 By the way, no kings, I'm not a king, yeah, yeah, what about that?

01:49:27.000 I was kept going to say, What the heck, I got.

01:49:30.000 There's a picture of me.

01:49:30.000 Picture.

01:49:31.000 I did a video on my ex account at Tim Merchant.

01:49:34.000 See how through that plugin?

01:49:35.000 But Central Bank of Afghanistan said it received another injection of $40 million in cash this week.

01:49:41.000 And this is literally $100 bills in stacks.

01:49:45.000 Is that real?

01:49:47.000 Is that a stock photo or is that them showing a photograph of the money they received?

01:49:51.000 Because I can't imagine they're sending bricks of cash.

01:49:54.000 Oh, yeah.

01:49:55.000 Absolutely.

01:49:55.000 It's pallets.

01:49:56.000 It's called a pallet of cash.

01:49:57.000 What?

01:49:58.000 I'm reading through this explanation of it from these reports.

01:50:00.000 It's a He's saying exactly what these are all saying, but this is a lot of explanation in here.

01:50:07.000 I got a mutual fund.

01:50:08.000 I don't understand all the money, but when I see here $40 million going overseas.

01:50:12.000 But in cash, too, it's crazy.

01:50:14.000 There's no record of it.

01:50:16.000 Take it and divvy it up.

01:50:19.000 We print it every day.

01:50:20.000 The UN is responsible for purchasing, transporting, and transferring at least $2.9 billion in U.S. currency to Afghanistan.

01:50:27.000 This is from 2024, I think, when this was printed.

01:50:31.000 So that they have to find the cash on, you know.

01:50:34.000 Call your senator and say, I want this dead-down bill on the floor.

01:50:37.000 Crazy.

01:50:38.000 It's past the committee, and it was like pulling teeth.

01:50:41.000 It was because apparently I offended somebody.

01:50:44.000 Which I'm sure I did now.

01:50:45.000 But I don't understand why anybody wouldn't recognize that giving money to an organization that hates us, a fundamentalist religious organization that hates us.

01:50:55.000 They're not a religion.

01:50:56.000 They're not a religion.

01:50:57.000 They're a cult or.

01:51:00.000 Yeah, whatever you want to call it.

01:51:01.000 Since its first cash shipment, the UN has made at least 80 purchases of cash for transport to Afghanistan.

01:51:09.000 80.

01:51:10.000 80 purchases of $40 million.

01:51:12.000 The UN reported that it began purchasing and shipping cash because of Afghan banks.

01:51:18.000 Inability to participate in international wire transfers and Afghanistan's lack of domestic currency circulating throughout its economy.

01:51:25.000 Oh, so we got to help them out and give $40 million a week.

01:51:28.000 Yeah, and the starving kids are still starving, the little orphans aren't being taken care of. 0.99

01:51:33.000 And they're still throwing gays off of buildings and poking little girls out of bed. 0.98

01:51:37.000 Are there any gays left? 1.00

01:51:39.000 I mean, they got to be in the closet. 1.00

01:51:40.000 They are in the closet.

01:51:41.000 There's a lot of that, a lot of pedophilia.

01:51:43.000 I have some buddies that served over there and told me some horrible stories. 0.55

01:51:47.000 This guy was going to frag a.

01:51:49.000 Afghan general, or something, one time he told me, and he used to work for me, and he had mental issues over it.

01:51:56.000 Yeah, I've heard horrible, horrible stories.

01:51:56.000 Oh, it's horrible.

01:51:58.000 My dad wouldn't go back to Okinawa because, if I can digress quickly, daddy went back for the 50th anniversary of the invasion of Peleliu, and he said, I said, You're going to go back to the 50th anniversary?

01:52:10.000 Because, you know, those Marines, not a lot of those guys are left, you know, and they're all gone now, but he said, I ain't going to go back to Okinawa.

01:52:17.000 And he said, He told me this story.

01:52:18.000 He said, They came over this hill. 0.94

01:52:21.000 And a Corsair caught a bunch of Japanese out in this field. 1.00

01:52:24.000 Dad called it a lucky strike. 0.99

01:52:26.000 Dad loved a Corsair.

01:52:27.000 That thing dived at over 400 miles an hour and just lit them up, caught them out, obliterated them, and they ran up on them. 0.58

01:52:34.000 And they had been raping some of the islanders or Korean girls that they'd collected.

01:52:41.000 And I think that messed with my dad off all the stuff he saw, blowing caves and shooting people up close. 0.87

01:52:47.000 And that's what he said.

01:52:49.000 I won't go into it because I got a daughter that's going to be watching this thing.

01:52:52.000 But.

01:52:55.000 And that's what scarred my daddy.

01:52:58.000 You'd have loved him.

01:52:59.000 He was, my buddy Chris Haggerty got an Acura for Christmas.

01:53:06.000 It was a bright red Acura.

01:53:08.000 And, you know, Acura's not made in America at the time.

01:53:11.000 And dad goes, Hag?

01:53:13.000 He says, My daddy was a dean at UT, dean of student county.

01:53:16.000 He goes, Where's that thing made? 1.00

01:53:17.000 And he goes, I reckon it's made in Japan, CB. 0.98

01:53:21.000 And dad goes, I reckon you're going to be parking that thing out in the street.

01:53:24.000 Daddy just went back in the kitchen, bag went out and moved his act out on the street.

01:53:28.000 There was nobody messing with my dad.

01:53:30.000 He was, I remember the neighbor one time, she comes over and said, Somebody's in my house.

01:53:35.000 And I was like, What?

01:53:36.000 And I'm downstairs. 0.67

01:53:37.000 And I run upstairs, and dad runs by me with a Browning high power. 1.00

01:53:41.000 I mean, he's probably 70 years old, and he was clearing that house. 0.98

01:53:44.000 He ran in that house.

01:53:45.000 And I remember mom was on the phone and he said, Don't shoot my husband.

01:53:48.000 He's in a blue powder leisure suit.

01:53:53.000 He was something else.

01:53:53.000 Oh, man.

01:53:54.000 He was, uh, Yeah, Mama was something else too.

01:53:58.000 They were real Christians, so they weren't bumper sticker kind of Christians.

01:54:01.000 People would. 0.97

01:54:04.000 To this day, I don't like.

01:54:05.000 I love the Waffle House.

01:54:06.000 You know, it's America's premier steakhouse.

01:54:09.000 And I go in there, and I don't like eating breakfast food any other time than at breakfast because I can always remember as a little boy, Daddy would always pick up somebody on the interstate.

01:54:19.000 Somebody broke down, black folks, white folks, you know, anybody, or some UT student that was having a little rough go and bring them to the house.

01:54:28.000 And there wouldn't be enough hamburgers for me, my brother, sister, and I, you know, the five of us, but Mama could make enough breakfast.

01:54:35.000 And I always knew that Daddy had brought somebody home and we were going to be eating breakfast for supper.

01:54:40.000 And that always ticked me off as a kid.

01:54:42.000 You know, I didn't understand at the time, but now I realize I had pretty cool parents.

01:54:46.000 So that's awesome.

01:54:48.000 Can I show you a cool picture of my mama?

01:54:50.000 Sure.

01:54:50.000 She flew an airplane during the Second World War.

01:54:52.000 She was, I was hanging out with Kid Rock one time, and I'm going to use a little language here Bobby, and I said, I know your thing is you're the American badass.

01:55:03.000 I said, but I was raised by the American badasses, and I got pictures of that on Peleliu and Okinawa with his Thompson submachine gun stuff.

01:55:09.000 But here's my mama. 0.92

01:55:10.000 Somebody colorizes. 0.99

01:55:11.000 She's just a little country girl. 0.75

01:55:13.000 Wow. 1.00

01:55:14.000 And flying an airplane during the second.

01:55:16.000 Her brother Roy, who was 33 years old, got killed in the hedgerows.

01:55:19.000 Wow.

01:55:20.000 She's a beautiful woman. 0.86

01:55:21.000 They colorized that. 1.00

01:55:22.000 Crazy. 0.88

01:55:23.000 And I'm an unrepentant mama's boy. 0.91

01:55:25.000 That's a crazy picture.

01:55:27.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

01:55:28.000 She got her foot up.

01:55:28.000 And I've got a picture of my daughter.

01:55:30.000 We were at the air show, and the guy had a biplane over there, and he wasn't going to.

01:55:33.000 There it is.

01:55:34.000 Oh, thank you, Jamie.

01:55:34.000 That's the one.

01:55:35.000 You're the man.

01:55:36.000 But that's in Nashville.

01:55:38.000 And somebody, it was National Women's Aviators Day, and everybody's showing all these pictures of these women.

01:55:43.000 And I said, well, I'm going to have to one up, y'all.

01:55:47.000 And I put that up there, and somebody sent it to me.

01:55:49.000 I didn't know just a supporter, not even in my district, and they colorized it for me.

01:55:53.000 And so I was, you know, and that company that I can't read the name off of, all the parachute, but I think they're still in business.

01:55:53.000 Wow.

01:56:01.000 But anyway, that was in Nashville.

01:56:02.000 You can see they're on dirt.

01:56:05.000 And the crazy thing was when she qualified, I don't know how long you got to fly with an instructor before you solo.

01:56:12.000 Well, they messed up and they did it in half, they did the math wrong on it. 0.93

01:56:16.000 Which was crazy because Mama was a math teacher, but she was a country girl and she's in it for the fight. 0.57

01:56:22.000 And she's a lot like my wife. 1.00

01:56:23.000 My wife is a fighter too. 1.00

01:56:25.000 She, whew, you don't get between her and anybody in our family. 1.00

01:56:29.000 But Mama, she soloed in half the time that she was supposed to.

01:56:36.000 And, you know, the war's going on and they, I've still got her little log book and they tried to redo the math on it and it was wrong.

01:56:44.000 But, you know, Mama just, Daddy said, yeah, I bet she cleared out a fence row when she landed.

01:56:48.000 And then, no.

01:56:49.000 But she was pretty cool.

01:56:51.000 It's got to be a terrible slap in the face of these people that served in Afghanistan to find out that the Taliban's getting.

01:56:58.000 My buddy Eli Crane, I just look over at him, and he's one beautiful human being.

01:57:04.000 I love Eli Crane.

01:57:05.000 He is my buddy.

01:57:06.000 And lone survivor Marcus Luttrell?

01:57:12.000 Yeah, his brother is Morgan.

01:57:14.000 Morgan, yeah, he's the catcher on our baseball team.

01:57:18.000 And I was out there one day, and we were.

01:57:20.000 We don't actually practice in the best part of town, but we've got security everywhere because when they shot Scalise and all those guys years back, I feel very secure.

01:57:31.000 And I heard this pop, pop, pop, pop.

01:57:34.000 And this young officer, D.C. officer, said, Capitol policeman said, It's okay, guys.

01:57:39.000 I think it's fireworks.

01:57:41.000 And Morgan took his hat off and goes, Birchett, that was gunfire.

01:57:44.000 And I thought, I'm going with what Morgan says.

01:57:47.000 I'm not going with what this guy up here says.

01:57:48.000 They never fired a shot in anger.

01:57:50.000 And, And I love those guys.

01:57:52.000 They're wonderful people.

01:57:53.000 And I do too.

01:57:55.000 I used to hurt for my daddy because he would talk about China.

01:57:55.000 I hurt for them.

01:57:59.000 They went to China after the war and he fought the communists over there for a short while before he left the Marine Corps.

01:58:06.000 but how we just turned them over.

01:58:08.000 And he would talk about that, and he would be visibly upset and walk away because of that.

01:58:15.000 We want to get these wars over, and we don't deal with the repercussions.

01:58:19.000 We don't deal with the repercussions of we got warriors that we need to heal, and it's just very frustrating to me.

01:58:28.000 Well, kudos to Trump for passing this psychedelics bill.

01:58:28.000 Yeah.

01:58:33.000 Oh, good gosh.

01:58:34.000 I saw you on that.

01:58:35.000 I love that.

01:58:36.000 Because I didn't know anything about it.

01:58:38.000 And I asked some of those guys about it before, and they said, Oh, yeah, Birch, one member confided in me that he'd been in some of the mess.

01:58:50.000 And I told him, I said, You know, my daddy had anger issues and stuff.

01:58:54.000 He never beat mama or me or anybody.

01:58:57.000 How could you not?

01:58:58.000 Gosh, I know.

01:58:59.000 How could you expect?

01:59:00.000 You expect this of people to do horrible things and to see horrible things and then to come back and just go to the grocery store.

01:59:00.000 That's the crazy thing.

01:59:07.000 Just be normal.

01:59:08.000 Just sit in traffic.

01:59:09.000 Be normal.

01:59:10.000 I remember one time we were at a UT football game.

01:59:12.000 And I was a little boy.

01:59:13.000 I must have been four or five.

01:59:15.000 And dad, we were on the 50 yard line.

01:59:18.000 It was in the 60s.

01:59:19.000 And they let you bring these cowbells.

01:59:22.000 And it was the last game they let you bring cowbells to.

01:59:24.000 I don't even probably do it now.

01:59:25.000 But back then, they.

01:59:26.000 And so this guy was sitting behind us and he was drunk.

01:59:29.000 And he took the Lord's name in vain.

01:59:31.000 And my daddy said, Hey, we got ladies down here.

01:59:35.000 And my sister, who was probably seven or eight, and my mama was there.

01:59:40.000 And the guy said, Okay.

01:59:41.000 And then the guy spilled his drink on my dad.

01:59:44.000 And my mama.

01:59:45.000 Grabbed us all as kids and just rushed us out.

01:59:48.000 And I remembered, I was like, no, what's daddy doing?

01:59:51.000 And the UT cops, they loved my daddy because he was dean of student conduct.

01:59:53.000 He always backed them up. 0.93

01:59:55.000 And they come running down the aisle, and literally my dad beat these guys' ass, all three of them, right there on the 50 yard line at Nealon Stadium. 0.72

02:00:02.000 And I was just a little boy, and I was like, he didn't give high fives back then, but if I had, I would have given him because he was a pretty incredible guy.

02:00:10.000 Well, a guy who's been to war like that man had and come back.

02:00:15.000 And it wasn't any different than.

02:00:18.000 Thousands of other of his buddies, you know, they would get together and talk about stuff.

02:00:21.000 And, and I, you know, we didn't drink in the house.

02:00:24.000 My mom and daddy didn't let me have a beer can collection.

02:00:26.000 And daddy's buddy, Red Welch, came over and Red drank beer at the dinner table.

02:00:32.000 And it was in the 80s.

02:00:33.000 I was in, I was, gosh, I was getting ready to go to college.

02:00:36.000 And that was still no beer in the house.

02:00:38.000 And Red was drinking beer.

02:00:40.000 And I said, Daddy, I said, what's the deal with Red drinking beer?

02:00:42.000 And he said, Buddy, he said, you get pinned down on one of them islands and you got, you know, you're going to get, you're going to, Leave this earth pretty soon.

02:00:50.000 There's one guy that comes running for you.

02:00:52.000 He can do pretty much whatever he wants to in your house. 0.64

02:00:55.000 And that was red.

02:00:56.000 I found an old picture of him and daddy in China the other day.

02:00:59.000 But yeah, daddy had a great life, though.

02:01:02.000 He had a great life.

02:01:03.000 Him and mom are both buried at Veterans Cemetery there in Knoxville.

02:01:06.000 And you know, to this day, I'm 61 years old.

02:01:09.000 And if I go up there, I think about them and their sacrifice and I cry like a baby.

02:01:13.000 Because I go to that Capitol, Joe, and I see people just that are just going to throw it all away.

02:01:20.000 Throw it all away.

02:01:22.000 And to me, that's just, that is unforgivable.

02:01:25.000 Unforgivable.

02:01:27.000 Well, I'm very happy that some of these people that have experienced these horrible things have at least a pathway to relief now.

02:01:36.000 Yeah.

02:01:38.000 And thank you for getting involved, brother.

02:01:39.000 That was huge.

02:01:40.000 Well, thanks.

02:01:41.000 I couldn't see that ever.

02:01:42.000 Do what?

02:01:43.000 Thank Rick Perry.

02:01:44.000 Yeah.

02:01:44.000 Rick Perry and Brian Hubbard, because if it wasn't for them explaining to me what they've been through and how it's helped people and all the other people that I know, like Marcus Luttrell, who's a friend, who's.

02:01:54.000 It wouldn't have happened.

02:01:55.000 I talked to everybody.

02:01:56.000 And they said it wouldn't have happened if it hadn't been for you.

02:01:58.000 You use that microphone for good, and I appreciate it because a lot of people aren't.

02:02:02.000 Well, I never asked them for anything up until that moment.

02:02:06.000 I was like, if there's a thing that I could do that might make the world a little bit of a better place. 0.84

02:02:12.000 And the fact that those things were made illegal in the first place is just ridiculous. 0.54

02:02:16.000 It should have never happened.

02:02:17.000 They should have been studied, and we could understand how they could help people, especially when you consider how many people are on antidepressants in this country.

02:02:24.000 Wow, it's epidemic.

02:02:25.000 Tim Walsh's daughter, the guy who was running for vice president, his daughter just made a Post on social media where she was talking about how she's been on them for 15 years and she's realizing that they're a real problem.

02:02:38.000 And every time she's tried to get off, it's been devastating.

02:02:41.000 And I know people that have also been on them that they try to get off them, like my friend Theo Vaughn, and the roof falls off.

02:02:48.000 And like every time he starts talking about something that drives him crazy, I just got to kind of rein him in and just like calm down.

02:02:55.000 Like, you know, if you've had friends take their lives, and I've had a few, I've had quite a few.

02:03:01.000 It's a horrible feeling when you.

02:03:04.000 Think about it and you go, What could I have done?

02:03:06.000 What could I have said?

02:03:07.000 How could I have?

02:03:08.000 And so much so we don't know.

02:03:11.000 My oldest friend in the world, a guy named Scott Davis, he and I were at Little Red Schoolhouse together.

02:03:16.000 His brother took his life and he suffered from depression.

02:03:20.000 And this was in the 80s and we didn't understand it.

02:03:22.000 You know, I was with a guy yesterday, one of his best friends, Ben Testerman.

02:03:26.000 He was telling me, You know, I talked to him.

02:03:29.000 You know, I came home.

02:03:31.000 He was a professional tennis player and he came home and was talking to Jeff and he said, You know, he said, I just feel like I'm in a hole.

02:03:38.000 And nobody gets that.

02:03:39.000 And people will say to them, I hear people all the time say, Hey, just get over it, man.

02:03:45.000 You know, go for a jug.

02:03:46.000 And then there's some freaking chemical imbalance that we don't know.

02:03:49.000 Something has happened that's jarred them that we don't understand.

02:03:52.000 And that is if there's one avenue that gets it, you know.

02:03:56.000 But big pharma, again, big ag, big pharma, it's like hemp.

02:04:00.000 Why the hell are we not growing hemp?

02:04:02.000 It just drives me crazy.

02:04:03.000 It drives me crazy as well.

02:04:04.000 It doesn't make any sense, especially when you find out all the stuff that is legal.

02:04:08.000 It's like, have some consistency.

02:04:10.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:04:11.000 How many people do we lose every year?

02:04:12.000 And a lot of my friends are in the alcohol business, but it's a personal responsibility issue with me.

02:04:18.000 You know, if you do it, it's your business. 1.00

02:04:19.000 But if you break the law, you know, you're going to the hooch gal. 1.00

02:04:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:04:23.000 And listen, I'm not a big drinker, but I think you should be allowed to drink.

02:04:26.000 I don't think there's anything wrong with being allowed to smoke cigarettes.

02:04:28.000 If that's what you want to do, you should be able to do it.

02:04:30.000 I believe in freedom.

02:04:31.000 But I think we should be consistent.

02:04:33.000 And the fact that there are these things that could help people that are suffering from depression, that are suffering from opioid addiction, that are suffering from all sorts of.

02:04:42.000 PTSD and CTE, and that we have this thing that we've known about for decades, and the only person that had the courage to try to push an executive order is Trump.

02:04:52.000 And if I help that?

02:04:54.000 Again, he is enemy number one with a lot of those people.

02:04:59.000 Well, I mean, thank God he's got the kind of courage that he has to push stuff like that through because it's going to change a lot of humans' lives, a lot of veterans' lives, a lot of first responders, a lot of police officers, a lot of people that have experienced violent crime.

02:05:13.000 It's going to change a lot of people's lives.

02:05:15.000 Women that have been abused.

02:05:16.000 Yes.

02:05:17.000 All the above.

02:05:18.000 And they're not going to be walking around like some kind of crazy zombies thing.

02:05:23.000 It's a very controlled thing.

02:05:25.000 Especially Ibogaine.

02:05:26.000 Ibogaine is not recreational in any shape or form.

02:05:29.000 No one's taking it recreationally.

02:05:30.000 I've never done it, but I've heard it's a terrible experience.

02:05:33.000 But you come out on the under end of it.

02:05:35.000 Rick Perry was also talking about how he's experienced natural brain atrophy being a man in his 70s.

02:05:41.000 He went and got an examination after he did it.

02:05:44.000 Brain atrophy had dropped by 25%.

02:05:46.000 He went back in six months later, it was all gone.

02:05:49.000 Just that alone.

02:05:50.000 Wow.

02:05:50.000 Think about all the elderly people out there that are suffering from memory loss and all these different issues that people have.

02:05:57.000 That could fix them, and that it's literally just one experience that you have that takes 12 hours, and when it's over, you're better.

02:06:04.000 That's crazy.

02:06:05.000 And that we've kept this from people.

02:06:07.000 There's no chance of people being addicted.

02:06:09.000 The money.

02:06:10.000 Somebody wants to control it.

02:06:11.000 But at some point in time, we've got to be human.

02:06:12.000 I agree.

02:06:13.000 All these money people have to realize you only have a certain amount of time on this planet.

02:06:18.000 You need to shut them out.

02:06:19.000 You have an opportunity to make the world a better place.

02:06:21.000 And we've got to say no to people that just want personal money.

02:06:25.000 They just want.

02:06:27.000 Personal funds that are going to go to their money, that's going to go to their bank accounts, going to go to their company, their corporation, personal benefit at the expense of who knows how many people, including literal heroes.

02:06:40.000 When's enough enough for those guys?

02:06:42.000 Yeah, when is enough enough?

02:06:43.000 I mean, this is the same feeling that I have about this disclosure stuff.

02:06:46.000 Like, I don't care what it's going to affect.

02:06:49.000 I don't care.

02:06:50.000 Like, if there's real things out there that we don't know about, you as a human being have no right to keep that from the rest of humanity.

02:07:00.000 I don't care what your title is.

02:07:04.000 I don't care what three letter organization you work for.

02:07:07.000 You're a human being and you have an obligation to the other human beings to alert us.

02:07:12.000 The fact that there's people that have, if this is real and there's people that have gone to their grave with this information that would literally change the course of human history, that's a crime.

02:07:20.000 It's a real crime.

02:07:21.000 Could you imagine the poor countries, the people that suffer, the deserts and things like that, if you could cool their huts or whatever?

02:07:31.000 We get out of these worthless wars, which are over oil all the time.

02:07:35.000 Right.

02:07:35.000 And it just, it would end it all.

02:07:37.000 And just a stroke of the pen almost.

02:07:39.000 What do you think it is?

02:07:41.000 Like when you.

02:07:42.000 I've, I go back and forth.

02:07:44.000 I know it's a little crazy and this will probably cost me an election because they've tried to use it against me in the past.

02:07:49.000 It will only help you at this point.

02:07:51.000 Well, I think we need to look at these deep water areas.

02:07:54.000 I have a hard time believing that something can travel light years in some suspended state.

02:07:59.000 They have to be in some kind of suspended state.

02:08:01.000 So I have a trouble with that.

02:08:03.000 Those.

02:08:03.000 Five gentlemen that came to my house, four or five, that came to my house that time, they were talking about a moon that was around Saturn or Jupiter that they'd done some testing with that they think would be capable of something.

02:08:19.000 And the moon was larger than our Earth, of course.

02:08:21.000 There's a moon that's larger than our Earth?

02:08:24.000 Yeah, around Jupiter or Saturn.

02:08:26.000 That doesn't make any sense.

02:08:27.000 I don't think that's correct.

02:08:28.000 Yeah, maybe I'm wrong.

02:08:29.000 Check it out.

02:08:30.000 No, no, no.

02:08:31.000 There's no moons that are larger than a planet.

02:08:33.000 No, it's not me.

02:08:34.000 I don't think so.

02:08:35.000 Our planet.

02:08:35.000 I don't believe that's true.

02:08:37.000 Circles around it.

02:08:38.000 I don't know.

02:08:39.000 Anyway, I'm wrong.

02:08:40.000 Is that accurate?

02:08:41.000 Do I not know about this?

02:08:42.000 Yeah, but I don't believe there's a moon out there that's larger than our planet.

02:08:48.000 These guys seem to think that something could travel from there and it was the quantum physics.

02:08:52.000 After talking to that admiral, it makes me wonder if there is something in these deep ocean areas.

02:08:58.000 The old cliche, we know more about the surface of the moon than we do the surface of the ocean floor in some areas, I think is true because we're not down there.

02:09:07.000 Logically, that's the one place where we don't go.

02:09:10.000 And it covers 75% of the Earth at least, right?

02:09:13.000 And if you wanted to hide, that would be a good spot.

02:09:16.000 Yeah, I mean, if you were monitoring humans, let's say that humans are on this path of technological evolution and then they recognize that humans have split the atom, we've developed atomic weapons and we've used them, and they want to make sure that we don't blow up the entire planet before we achieve some sort of enlightenment, before we bypass whatever territorial primate.

02:09:38.000 Monkey brain stuff that we have that's causing us to have all these wars and do all these things that we shouldn't be doing. 0.99

02:09:47.000 Stupid stuff. 1.00

02:09:48.000 And that we're on our way. 1.00

02:09:49.000 We're getting better.

02:09:49.000 We're clearly better than we were a thousand years ago and better than we were 3,000 years ago.

02:09:53.000 were 3,000 years ago.

02:09:55.000 We're on our way to being a more advanced civilization, but it's possible that we could screw it all up at any point in time and blow ourselves to smithereens.

02:10:03.000 I would imagine they would want to monitor us. 0.99

02:10:06.000 One maniac in Iran. 1.00

02:10:07.000 If they hadn't stopped their nuclear. 1.00

02:10:07.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:10:10.000 I'm convinced that they're, I mean, they were out for Armageddon.

02:10:13.000 They'd have launched something.

02:10:14.000 They had the capabilities to go all the way to England. 0.97

02:10:16.000 I mean, if they put one close to Israel, it'd be over. 0.77

02:10:20.000 And people like North Korea, who have terrible technology on missiles, the biggest threat there was if they put one up in the air that the Nuclear cloud could blow over China. 0.67

02:10:30.000 And so there's that could have had some incredible bad repercussions. 0.99

02:10:34.000 Well, the fact that there's so many different countries that have nuclear weapons and we're just relying on these people to keep their shit together is nuts. 0.99

02:10:39.000 It's nuts. 1.00

02:10:40.000 And they're maniacs. 1.00

02:10:40.000 Completely nuts. 1.00

02:10:43.000 Well, it makes sense that if you were a super advanced life form from wherever, that if you wanted to have a base, some sort of a base where you'd monitor us, it would be in the ocean.

02:10:43.000 Yeah.

02:10:55.000 You'd be right there.

02:10:56.000 You could get out of it real quick and Go to wherever you wanted to go.

02:10:59.000 Orbs was the thing I was thinking of earlier.

02:11:02.000 That's the new word that you hear a lot of.

02:11:02.000 Orbs.

02:11:05.000 It's getting away from saucers.

02:11:06.000 Well, there's a lot of weird stuff with orbs where people say that they could summon them.

02:11:10.000 Yeah, I'm not on that.

02:11:13.000 There's someone, a friend of mine wants me to go and do it with her.

02:11:16.000 She's my friend's wife has experienced it, and she's like, You got to try it.

02:11:21.000 I'm like, Oh.

02:11:22.000 Now, that to me is.

02:11:23.000 I'll say who it is when she comes on the podcast next.

02:11:25.000 I don't know.

02:11:26.000 I don't know.

02:11:27.000 I don't have permission to talk about it.

02:11:28.000 I don't know if she wants me to talk about it, but.

02:11:30.000 I'm like, okay, what do we got to do?

02:11:33.000 Be careful about the sex cult angle.

02:11:34.000 Well, she's not.

02:11:35.000 That's not what I'm worried about.

02:11:37.000 I know you're a good looking guy, Joe.

02:11:38.000 No, no, no.

02:11:39.000 She might be digging you.

02:11:40.000 No, This ain't that.

02:11:42.000 This is not that.

02:11:43.000 She's been my friend for 20 years.

02:11:44.000 She's married to my friend.

02:11:47.000 No, I'm saying the angle that they use. 0.99

02:11:49.000 Well, this lady's not that. 1.00

02:11:50.000 She's a comedian. 1.00

02:11:51.000 Okay.

02:11:51.000 There's not that.

02:11:52.000 But there are a lot of kooky people that do have sex cults. 0.92

02:11:57.000 The sex cults, every cult turns into a sex cult, right? 0.99

02:12:02.000 Power. 0.87

02:12:02.000 You know, I almost bought a building in Austin that was owned by a cult. 0.87

02:12:07.000 No, really?

02:12:08.000 The original Comedy Mothership was the original location was a place called the One World Theater.

02:12:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:12:15.000 The One World Theater was owned by this cult.

02:12:17.000 And I kind of knew about it because Ron White told me about it because they had this theater that they built so that their leader can perform in front of them.

02:12:29.000 And then the cult got disbanded.

02:12:30.000 The cult there's a documentary about the cult called Holy Hell.

02:12:33.000 And yeah, it's crazy. 0.91

02:12:35.000 Crazy. 1.00

02:12:36.000 But it's a sex cult. 1.00

02:12:38.000 There was a guy who is a, get this, he started out in California and he was a gay porn star and a hypnotist, which is a wonderful combination if you want to start a cult. 0.99

02:12:48.000 Like you do. 0.99

02:12:48.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:12:48.000 And also a yoga teacher. 0.99

02:12:50.000 So he starts out teaching these people yoga.

02:12:53.000 And I don't know if I've ever taken yoga before.

02:12:54.000 I've taken a bunch of yoga classes with a bunch of different instructors and most of them have been amazing.

02:13:00.000 But a few of them were very culty, very culty.

02:13:02.000 And there's this one guy that I took classes from way back in the day, like more than 20 years ago.

02:13:08.000 And he was in California and he was sleeping with a bunch of the ladies that were there.

02:13:11.000 And he was kind of like a cult guy.

02:13:14.000 Like he was like.

02:13:14.000 Yeah.

02:13:15.000 They were following him.

02:13:16.000 He was dragged into it.

02:13:16.000 Yeah.

02:13:17.000 Singing, singing stupid songs. 1.00

02:13:18.000 But it was like very full of himself. 1.00

02:13:21.000 It was gross.

02:13:22.000 And, you know, everything wound up falling apart for that guy. 0.99

02:13:22.000 He was gross. 0.99

02:13:26.000 And then he ran for Congress. 0.79

02:13:27.000 But there's a lot of these people that, for whatever reason, that's where it all boils down to. 0.85

02:13:32.000 They want to have sex with everybody's wife and they want to run at everything and they want, you know, run of the mill and, you know, It's very strange. 0.97

02:13:39.000 That's where the demonic stuff comes in with Christians when you call these things down. 0.91

02:13:44.000 But why do you think that that has to do with sex cults? 0.96

02:13:47.000 Why would the aliens have to do with sex?

02:13:49.000 I don't think it's the aliens. 0.89

02:13:50.000 I think it's the aliens.

02:13:51.000 I think it's, I just think some people are abusing the people's beliefs.

02:13:56.000 They think that they're using their belief in UFOs to draw them in and to some sort of thing.

02:14:03.000 Have you knowledge of this kind of stuff?

02:14:06.000 Yeah.

02:14:06.000 I get all of it.

02:14:07.000 I hear about all of it.

02:14:08.000 Can you name names?

02:14:09.000 Can you talk about like.

02:14:10.000 Not on the air.

02:14:11.000 Okay.

02:14:11.000 I don't want to get sued.

02:14:13.000 Okay.

02:14:14.000 So the underwater bases or the underwater.

02:14:18.000 This is like an admiral.

02:14:19.000 This is what an admiral told me.

02:14:21.000 Okay.

02:14:21.000 So did he say locations?

02:14:24.000 That these things are coming from, or is there an actual physical base that they've observed?

02:14:29.000 He said that they don't have the capabilities to get down that deep, actually.

02:14:36.000 But they did say that the sightings were happening in about, I think, four of the five deep water areas around our world.

02:14:46.000 And so.

02:14:46.000 And he didn't have any other, you know.

02:14:48.000 And then I was on talking about it, and somebody said, Tim Burchett says that they're underwater bases, you know, and then, you know, and they.

02:14:57.000 They had Gates on the other day, and he was briefed.

02:15:01.000 I just told what I was briefed on, and he was briefed by a guy that said it was in uniform that said that they were breeding, they were capturing people and breeding them with these aliens.

02:15:13.000 And, you know, he just talked.

02:15:14.000 What?

02:15:15.000 So, yeah, he was on.

02:15:16.000 You can pull it up.

02:15:17.000 I mean, Matt Gates, he talked about it.

02:15:19.000 He didn't say he believed it, but, you know, we get briefed on that's what I'm talking about the psyop.

02:15:25.000 Here's part of the problem, too.

02:15:27.000 They bring you information and you go forward with this, and this is, oh, this is the truth, you know, these underwater bases, whatever.

02:15:34.000 And then they prove it doesn't exist, and then they just discredit you and they discredit the whole movement.

02:15:39.000 So that's why I'm very cautious anytime anybody brings me any information or pictures or testimony or, you know, third cousin's recollection.

02:15:49.000 Yeah.

02:15:50.000 That is the disinformation thing is a problem.

02:15:52.000 They'll tell you some truth and mix it in with some really kooky stuff, and then you say the kooky stuff along with it, and the kooky stuff just discredits everything that's true.

02:16:01.000 Yeah.

02:16:02.000 Yeah.

02:16:02.000 And Lazar talked about that too.

02:16:04.000 He said they would tell people certain things that weren't true and they would tell different people different things that weren't true.

02:16:12.000 So if the story got leaked out, they would know who leaked it.

02:16:15.000 It was like a hook.

02:16:17.000 So that anchor would be like, oh, that was Mike.

02:16:19.000 Mike told the story.

02:16:20.000 That's when I always warn our other members when we go into The SCIF and talk about stuff that, you know, that's the first time I've ever heard that one, or that's sort of what we heard the last time. 0.97

02:16:34.000 And then I said, everybody, just be real careful with it because if it gets out, then they'll come after you, or if they want it to get out so they can discredit you and make you look like a fool.

02:16:45.000 So they talked to you about deep water areas where sightings occur.

02:16:50.000 And so it's just a presumption that somewhere in that deep water they're emanating from that they're.

02:16:55.000 Well, he also described.

02:16:58.000 It is.

02:16:59.000 Gates claims whistleblower told him of alien human hybrid program.

02:17:05.000 The alleged program involved captured extraterrestrials mating with abducted humans from war zones and migrant caravans to create hybrids for intergalactic communication.

02:17:17.000 He claimed the whistleblower identified between six and 12 such facilities in the U.S. and sought coordinated congressional visits to prevent relocation of the activities, though Gates did not verify any of the information.

02:17:30.000 How could you? 1.00

02:17:32.000 You're going to talk to the hybrids? 1.00

02:17:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:17:35.000 Also, the.

02:17:35.000 I just want to go to the t shirt show.

02:17:37.000 Yeah, the pastor's thing that I sent you, Jamie.

02:17:39.000 Oh, yeah, that's bonkers.

02:17:41.000 I don't think about all this stuff.

02:17:42.000 I don't buy that.

02:17:43.000 I don't.

02:17:44.000 So, this is a guy.

02:17:45.000 It says his name is Alan Dido.

02:17:48.000 Yeah.

02:17:48.000 And it's weird.

02:17:50.000 Capital D, lowercase I, capital D, lowercase I, O. Didio.

02:17:56.000 Didio?

02:17:58.000 After sitting in a private meeting with pastors and those connected to these investigations, the message was clear UFO and UAP disclosure is coming.

02:18:06.000 Pastors must prepare their people now.

02:18:08.000 Silence is not an option.

02:18:10.000 Well, what does that mean?

02:18:12.000 Like, what are they preparing the people for?

02:18:14.000 Like, what?

02:18:15.000 Why would they bring in.

02:18:16.000 There's a group of pastors I've never heard of.

02:18:18.000 I would think.

02:18:19.000 I do.

02:18:20.000 I think if he'd have brought anybody in, he'd have brought Franklin Graham in.

02:18:20.000 I think it is.

02:18:24.000 Is this gentleman a pastor himself?

02:18:25.000 Click on his.

02:18:26.000 Yeah, he runs.

02:18:27.000 Well, I mean, he also has a show, which is.

02:18:29.000 Of course he does.

02:18:31.000 Of course he does.

02:18:33.000 Oh, so his show is about disclosure?

02:18:35.000 Revival Nation Church or something?

02:18:37.000 No, no, I don't know that.

02:18:38.000 This is just what these clips are coming around.

02:18:39.000 Can you click on his bio, please?

02:18:42.000 Like what it says?

02:18:44.000 Equipping End Time Believers for the Next Great Awakening.

02:18:48.000 Oh, boy.

02:18:50.000 I would warn people that think we're in the end times.

02:18:53.000 The Bible.

02:18:54.000 It's pretty clear about that.

02:18:55.000 It says that they don't even, the angels in heaven don't even know when the end times are.

02:19:00.000 When the end's coming.

02:19:01.000 Yeah.

02:19:01.000 Well, that's, I'm always very suspicious of people that say the end times are coming.

02:19:05.000 I remember when I was living in L.A., there was a billboard.

02:19:08.000 Do you remember those billboards, Jamie?

02:19:09.000 Where there was, the guy was like saying a very specific date where the end was coming, the rapture was going to, and then it didn't happen.

02:19:16.000 He's like, ah, I got some bad information.

02:19:17.000 It's coming soon.

02:19:18.000 Yeah.

02:19:19.000 I did my math wrong.

02:19:20.000 I remember.

02:19:21.000 I see those all the time.

02:19:22.000 I just shake my head.

02:19:23.000 So it ain't happening.

02:19:25.000 Yeah, that's the guy.

02:19:26.000 May 21st, 2011.

02:19:28.000 Cry mightily unto God.

02:19:30.000 Judgment Day.

02:19:31.000 Oh, boy.

02:19:31.000 And look at the gold stamp.

02:19:33.000 The Bible guarantees it.

02:19:35.000 By the way, I read the Bible.

02:19:36.000 I've never read anything where there's a guarantee of this day.

02:19:40.000 May 21st, 2011.

02:19:44.000 Yeah.

02:19:45.000 So when they tell you things, is there anything that they tell you that you could tell us?

02:19:51.000 Like, how much of what they told you is completely top secret that you're not allowed to say until they disclose it?

02:19:56.000 A lot of it.

02:19:57.000 A lot of it.

02:19:57.000 Yeah.

02:19:58.000 Is there anything that really disturbs you?

02:20:01.000 Yeah.

02:20:01.000 We had one meeting and it got into some stuff that they were talking about and the treatment of people and the capabilities.

02:20:13.000 And this was the treatment of people by these supposed extraterrestrials?

02:20:16.000 No, by our own government, but that were trying to come forward with this stuff.

02:20:20.000 But also, yeah, they told me some pretty creepy stuff. 0.98

02:20:24.000 So I would, again, Yeah, I bring this out and then they're busting my ass for it. 0.93

02:20:31.000 What do you think is going on? 0.98

02:20:33.000 I think it's a cover up.

02:20:35.000 I think there's something else out there.

02:20:38.000 I do not think we're the best that God can do.

02:20:40.000 And I really just don't know, Joe.

02:20:42.000 There's so many options.

02:20:43.000 It could be one of these groups that met with me, they describe several different types of beings and they go through all of them.

02:20:55.000 How many different types of beings?

02:20:57.000 I don't know.

02:20:57.000 Three, four, five.

02:20:59.000 It just changes.

02:20:59.000 I don't know.

02:21:00.000 I don't get caught up in that.

02:21:02.000 And I tell our guys, I say, look, here's the argument.

02:21:05.000 Just say, I just want to know what we're spending tens of millions of dollars on.

02:21:11.000 I don't care if it's not about Little Green Man.

02:21:11.000 That's all.

02:21:14.000 It's not about flying saucers.

02:21:15.000 It's what are we spending this money on if they say they don't exist?

02:21:19.000 That should be the answer, the question, and the answer will come from that.

02:21:23.000 Okay.

02:21:24.000 So if they do exist, when you say you think it's a cover up, what do you think it's a cover up?

02:21:31.000 I think they really do exist.

02:21:33.000 And I don't think that.

02:21:34.000 There's such a finite group of people that actually know it.

02:21:38.000 And you got a lot of charlatans out there that say they know it and they're out there selling memberships.

02:21:43.000 Of course.

02:21:44.000 But I think there's something to it.

02:21:48.000 I'm always very suspicious of anybody who speaks definitively about something like that where you can't possibly know.

02:21:54.000 And then they don't offer up any proof of this.

02:21:56.000 And they say, well, I've seen the pictures.

02:21:58.000 Well, bring me the dadgum pictures.

02:22:00.000 But I have seen some pictures and I have seen video and I have seen.

02:22:00.000 Yeah.

02:22:03.000 What's the most convincing thing that you've seen?

02:22:04.000 I don't know.

02:22:07.000 Those guys came out the house.

02:22:09.000 That was pretty convincing.

02:22:10.000 You know, that was before the hearings that we had.

02:22:14.000 How clear was the video?

02:22:17.000 Clears the screen.

02:22:19.000 I mean, it was pretty clear.

02:22:20.000 You know, and that was pre AI.

02:22:22.000 AI was such a new thing.

02:22:25.000 And then it fit in with what the Tic Tac videos were.

02:22:29.000 And the heat signature is what I always thought was unusual because it had to have a heat signature, but it didn't.

02:22:38.000 Right.

02:22:38.000 This is zero point energy, whatever that is.

02:22:41.000 Right.

02:22:42.000 And just the quantum physics angle of it is.

02:22:47.000 Mind blowing to me.

02:22:48.000 And you have no knowledge of what's supposed to be released?

02:22:52.000 Because today's Wednesday.

02:22:54.000 I'm going to know tomorrow at 3.

02:22:56.000 Tomorrow at 3 p.m.

02:22:57.000 Is that when the world knows?

02:22:58.000 No.

02:22:59.000 I think they're going to ask, just give me a little bit of it.

02:23:02.000 But I got a feeling they're not going to tell me much.

02:23:04.000 I got a feeling they're not going to tell America much.

02:23:08.000 Is it supposed to be disclosed this week?

02:23:10.000 Whatever the guy disclosed?

02:23:12.000 I don't know.

02:23:12.000 But if they're going to disclose it to us, then it'll be out right as soon as they hang up the phone with some guys.

02:23:12.000 I don't know.

02:23:18.000 Do you feel an obligation if they don't release it to try to tell people what you know?

02:23:24.000 I do.

02:23:26.000 I think it's because I don't like it if they're lying to us.

02:23:30.000 And again, I don't think Trump knows.

02:23:35.000 I mean, these people have kept this stuff secret.

02:23:37.000 Here's another thing.

02:23:38.000 I was in at one meeting, and a guy said, I said, What about the president on this?

02:23:41.000 And he said, The president's on a need to know basis.

02:23:44.000 Now, that's a federal employee saying that he or she has.

02:23:52.000 That the president is not allowed to see.

02:23:55.000 And I just was aghast, man. 0.99

02:23:58.000 I said, you know, that's the kind of crap you see on the sci fi network or something. 0.96

02:24:02.000 But that'd be the title of my book. 0.96

02:24:05.000 I mean, that ought to tell you right there that this thing is a cover up.

02:24:11.000 And it's kind of like MKUltra.

02:24:14.000 I don't think we're going to get the.

02:24:16.000 They're not going to tell us everything.

02:24:19.000 I really don't.

02:24:20.000 I don't think they're going to give us.

02:24:24.000 Half of what we should get.

02:24:25.000 But you think we're going to get something?

02:24:27.000 I think we'll get something.

02:24:28.000 Do you know how put off?

02:24:29.000 Do you know how put off?

02:24:31.000 Do you what?

02:24:31.000 Do you know how put off?

02:24:32.000 No, I know.

02:24:33.000 Do you know who he is?

02:24:34.000 I thought you were saying how put off you are right now.

02:24:36.000 No, no.

02:24:36.000 I was like, how put off are you?

02:24:38.000 How put off was in the documentary as well.

02:24:40.000 He was in the Age of Disclosure and he was a guest on the podcast.

02:24:42.000 And one of the things that he told me is that during the Bush administration, they brought in him and a bunch of other scientists and thought leaders.

02:24:50.000 And what was explained to him was that they are considering disclosure.

02:24:56.000 And that there have been visits of these super intelligent beings from somewhere else that we have retrieved, crashed vehicles, and that we have biological remains.

02:25:09.000 And we are talking about disclosing.

02:25:11.000 We would like you to make a list of all the ways that it'll negatively affect society and all the ways that it'll positively affect society and attach a numerical value to these things.

02:25:24.000 And they all did it, and every one of them.

02:25:26.000 Said the negatives far outweigh the positives in terms of the impact on government, the impact on the economy, religion, all these different factors and how it would disrupt society.

02:25:38.000 In the end, they decided not to disclose.

02:25:40.000 Yeah.

02:25:40.000 I've heard that many times.

02:25:41.000 Times.

02:25:42.000 I just don't buy it.

02:25:43.000 You don't buy it.

02:25:44.000 I mean, I don't doubt what he's saying.

02:25:44.000 I don't buy it.

02:25:47.000 I know all those guys.

02:25:48.000 Now that you mentioned that was a movie, of course, and I met them all afterwards.

02:25:51.000 But I just don't buy that.

02:25:53.000 I think we should know.

02:25:55.000 Let us know.

02:25:56.000 Let us decide.

02:25:57.000 No, I believe that too.

02:25:58.000 But I wonder what that meeting was like and whether or not they were being truthful to these people or whether it was a thought experiment.

02:26:07.000 Allegedly, when they told Jimmy Carter, he cried.

02:26:10.000 That's what I heard too.

02:26:11.000 Yeah.

02:26:12.000 It was.

02:26:13.000 I won't go into all of it, but I was in a meeting.

02:26:15.000 What would make him cry?

02:26:17.000 I don't know.

02:26:18.000 I don't know.

02:26:18.000 He's a very sensitive guy.

02:26:20.000 I understand, but I mean, I cried when I saw old Yeller.

02:26:23.000 Yeah, I did too.

02:26:24.000 Still cry.

02:26:25.000 But he had seen a UFO.

02:26:28.000 He was on a Navy sub, nuclear sub.

02:26:30.000 And I don't know if he saw that when he was on the sub or not.

02:26:33.000 I can't remember.

02:26:34.000 But here he is.

02:26:36.000 That guy was president of the United States.

02:26:38.000 And they told him something, and supposedly he cried.

02:26:40.000 And I was in the meeting, and that was brought up.

02:26:44.000 And the guy that they were trying to trip up gave the date.

02:26:48.000 Of that meeting.

02:26:49.000 And he said, You can go to the Carter Library and pull up that date, and you'll know there's one person they omitted their name, which who knows who that was, but they list the meeting and where he was when he got that briefing.

02:27:06.000 Wow.

02:27:09.000 So I don't know.

02:27:10.000 I don't know.

02:27:11.000 I don't know either.

02:27:12.000 I don't know if that's true or not.

02:27:13.000 You know, they also say Nixon pulled up one night to Jackie Gleason's and told him.

02:27:18.000 I know that story.

02:27:19.000 Yeah.

02:27:20.000 Well, you know, Jackie Gleason built that crazy house in upstate New York.

02:27:24.000 Do you know about that?

02:27:25.000 Do not.

02:27:25.000 Oh, you don't?

02:27:26.000 It was for sale a while back.

02:27:29.000 Jackie Gleason essentially built a UFO house.

02:27:31.000 He built a house that looked like a flying saucer.

02:27:33.000 No kidding.

02:27:34.000 Yeah, it was for sale fairly recently within the last few years.

02:27:37.000 That's the house. 0.99

02:27:38.000 Oh, crap. 0.99

02:27:39.000 That's a house Jackie Gleason built after supposedly Richard Nixon took him. 1.00

02:27:44.000 So supposedly the story was they were golfing, out drinking, and Richard Nixon's like, hey, you want to see some shit? 0.99

02:27:51.000 And then he took him. 0.99

02:27:52.000 To see this UFO somewhere on some base.

02:27:57.000 You know, the story is very vague.

02:27:59.000 It's hard to tell what actually happened, but apparently, people that knew Jackie Gleason said it profoundly affected him, and Jackie Gleason became obsessed with UFOs afterwards.

02:28:10.000 And then he had this house built the shape of a UFO, which is, I mean, not evidence, but.

02:28:16.000 Weird.

02:28:17.000 That's very weird.

02:28:18.000 Weird.

02:28:18.000 Yeah.

02:28:20.000 Nixon was a very serious guy.

02:28:22.000 That would have been an interesting scenario.

02:28:25.000 Yeah.

02:28:26.000 Indeed.

02:28:27.000 But I just wish they'd show us everything.

02:28:32.000 Yeah, me too.

02:28:34.000 Well, we'll see.

02:28:36.000 We'll see what comes out this week.

02:28:38.000 But thank you very much for being here.

02:28:39.000 I really appreciate it.

02:28:40.000 It was great to talk to you.

02:28:41.000 I wish I could get you to move to East Tennessee.

02:28:43.000 Why? 0.99

02:28:45.000 Well, we saved Texas ass, man. 0.99

02:28:46.000 You know, David Crockett. 0.99

02:28:47.000 Yeah, David Crockett.

02:28:48.000 Back in the day.

02:28:49.000 Yeah, he said he was in Congress and got beat.

02:28:51.000 He was a state legislator and he got beat in Congress. 0.99

02:28:54.000 And he said, as for, let's see, his quote was, for me, He says, for you all, you can all go to hell. 0.99

02:29:00.000 As for me, I'm going to Texas. 0.92

02:29:03.000 He goes to Alamo and gets killed, but he parlayed that into a Disney special, so he kind of evened out.

02:29:09.000 Sort of.

02:29:10.000 Sort of.

02:29:11.000 I'm very partial to Texas.

02:29:12.000 Well, all right.

02:29:13.000 We're a low tax state.

02:29:14.000 I know.

02:29:15.000 I just love it here.

02:29:15.000 Texas, low tax state.

02:29:16.000 I love a lot of things about Texas.

02:29:18.000 I love the people.

02:29:19.000 It's a fun place to be.

02:29:20.000 Yep.

02:29:21.000 My buddy Chip Roy, he's leaving.

02:29:23.000 He's from down here.

02:29:23.000 A bunch of these guys in Congress are down here that are leaving.

02:29:27.000 And they're going to Tennessee?

02:29:28.000 No, they're coming down here.

02:29:30.000 He's just looking for AG down here.

02:29:32.000 But no, they're all coming home.

02:29:34.000 They're tired of Washington.

02:29:35.000 Yeah.

02:29:36.000 Well, Luttrell told me, I said, why are you leaving Congress, dude?

02:29:38.000 And he says, I want to spend time with my family.

02:29:40.000 My kids are growing up.

02:29:41.000 And I was like, can't argue with that, brother.

02:29:43.000 Yeah, and the pressure of Congress, the pressure of Washington, D.C., is just so odd.

02:29:49.000 I've only been there a couple times, but every time I'm there when I leave, I'm like, yuck.

02:29:54.000 It's like when I used to minister to a guy in prison.

02:29:58.000 And when you'd leave Brushy Mountain State Prison, I called it that institutional smell.

02:30:03.000 Whatever they used to clean that place, you just smell like it for days later.

02:30:09.000 And that's Washington, D.C., it's a.

02:30:11.000 It's more of a filthy smell.

02:30:13.000 Yeah, it's a weird place.

02:30:15.000 I guess it's necessary, supposedly, but it's odd to visit.

02:30:19.000 But I appreciate people like you.

02:30:21.000 Thank you, brother.

02:30:21.000 I appreciate you.

02:30:22.000 And I appreciate you doing the right thing, especially for our veterans and on disclosure and all the other hot button issues.

02:30:28.000 And you got Hecklefish right there.

02:30:30.000 I do. 0.96

02:30:30.000 Hecklefish. 0.96

02:30:31.000 He said my name on his show one time.

02:30:33.000 Yeah, I love that show.

02:30:35.000 He said my name one time. 0.98

02:30:37.000 He said it wrong, but he's a Yankee, so I guess it's okay. 0.99

02:30:39.000 It's like Burchette or something. 1.00

02:30:41.000 Yeah.

02:30:42.000 It was awesome.

02:30:42.000 Thank you very much.

02:30:43.000 Thank you.

02:30:43.000 All right.

02:30:44.000 Bye everybody

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 07, 2026

Joe Rogan Experience #2495 - Tim Burchett

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