00:01:12.000Golf is one of those things that if you get into that, man, that's your whole fucking day.0.89
00:01:16.000Yeah, he goes out three or four days a week.
00:01:22.000When I was living in Boston, I noticed that the comedians that really got into golf, their career kind of stalled.
00:01:28.000Because all they were, they were just playing golf all day, having fun, drinking, and then they'd go to the club at night, but they weren't writing any new jokes.
00:01:36.000They weren't obsessing on their career.
00:04:31.000Yeah, I had one night off the leash and I realized I couldn't handle it.
00:04:35.000You know, there's just some kind of quality in me that's like, I can't stop, you know.
00:04:43.000And maybe someday I'll find that it's like, I got to get right in here, you know, and in here with myself before I can really consider that again.
00:04:55.000I quit drinking for about eight months just because I realized I just wasn't feeling good.
00:05:18.000And then, you know, two drinks, three drinks, go home, get up, feel like work out, do it again the next day, feel even shittier the next day.0.97
00:05:28.000And it's like, God damn, I got to take some time off.0.67
00:05:30.000So, I took about eight months off.0.98
00:05:33.000I think I'm not exactly sure how much time I took off.
00:05:36.000And then I had like a drink with dinner one night, and I said, All right.
00:05:41.000And so since then, I've never gotten drunk.
00:06:42.000It was like the anxiety and just like the dopamine depletion and just feeling just completely just like.
00:06:52.000And I'm somebody who was already struggling with like, that's why I drank in the first place.
00:06:56.000It's like my mental issues and just anxiety and depression.
00:07:02.000And then it would just kind of hit me tenfold the next day.
00:07:06.000It's always interesting to me when someone with anxiety chooses a path in life.
00:07:11.000Like live performing, yeah, because like it is anything that gives people anxiety, yeah, it's live performing and you're really good at it.
00:07:23.000It's like you know, you're picking this thing that you're really good at, but that gives a lot of people anxiety, and you have anxiety to begin with, yeah.
00:07:32.000I mean, it's like there's something to that.
00:07:36.000It's like Dan Soder, I always quote him on this, he's like, you know, I go around each night, like.
00:07:43.000Craving the approval of like thousands of people a night.
00:07:47.000Like, you didn't think I was doing that because things went well growing up.
00:07:53.000I need all these people to tell me I'm doing a good job.0.98
00:07:56.000But I think the idea is that eventually you channel that.
00:08:03.000And when you get yourself together, the idea, some people have this idea that if you ever get yourself together somewhat, and I don't think anybody ever gets totally together, but you get yourself together somewhat, and then you don't do it for the approval of it, you do it for the love of the art of it, the thing, and bringing the thing to people and getting enjoyment out of having these people have a good time.
00:08:53.000And I mean, that's why, like, we just did a run of Texas honky tonks, which that's what.
00:08:58.000That was kind of the goal, just to get everybody in these sweaty rooms just for the purpose of just like enjoying music again, getting back to these sticky floors.
00:10:00.000It's like there's a lot of that out there.
00:10:02.000You know, like people are digging that kind of music, but there's just, you know, when I talk about like rock, I mean, like when I was in high school, it was all Van Halen, ACDC, like that.
00:10:17.000There were so many big rock and roll bands, the Stones, you know, there was just so much of that out there.
00:10:25.000And it's odd that there's not a lot of big bands like that anymore.
00:11:06.000Well, it's interesting how cyclical the music industry can be.0.96
00:11:10.000I feel like for the first time in the last 10 years, since Urban Cowboy came out, because for the last 10 years, I've been going to L.A. with a cowboy hat on, and I always get the same shit like, where do you want to park your horse?0.96
00:12:23.000And that's kind of how we do our show.
00:12:24.000Like, we have songs that we're playing just to get to that improvisational section where we can just kind of, you know, work with the chemistry of the crowd and each other on stage.
00:12:35.000And it's just, it's interesting to me, like, the way things have become subdivided, you know?
00:12:43.000It's like, you're not a jam band unless it's, like, widespread or, like, Fish or, like, The Dead or something like that.0.96
00:12:49.000But, like, Zeppelin was a fucking jam band.0.97
00:14:58.000I'd say it looks, based on how many reproductions and what you just said, there being 12 back then, there might not be that many of them that exist.
00:16:55.000What if it was a pirate's crossbow?0.99
00:16:58.000Yeah, I guess it's kind of cool, but it's just, uh, it is weird that we're really into like old, like, you know, it's interesting you're holding something that's a piece of history, and what history is is like at the time, this was the shit.0.95
00:17:15.000Like, at the time, this was like the coolest thing you can get.0.92
00:17:18.000Like, 400 years ago, if you wanted to kill somebody, this was the way to do it.
00:17:22.000You had to get one of these things, which is very odd.
00:19:35.000Joe Rogan, and for a limited time, get a bottle of vitamin D3 K2 and an AG1 flavor sampler for free in your welcome kit with your first subscription.
00:19:57.000Just based on my own experience, like I remember the presidential fitness test, like that's a bad memory of mine just hanging on the pull up bar in front of all my.
00:20:08.000My classmates and not being able to do one pull up.
00:22:32.000I would fail on that, too, so they couldn't draft me.0.99
00:22:34.000These motherfuckers are talking about drafting people.0.97
00:22:36.000I was listening to Tim Dillon's show, and he was saying that, see if this is true, that Palantir thinks that we should reintroduce conscription, that kids should start getting drafted again into the military, and they should have mandatory military experience for kids.0.99
00:22:52.000I just don't understand why anybody would want to support that.
00:23:10.000Palantir has publicly called for the U.S. to move away from an all volunteer military and towards some form of universal national service that many observers interpret as reintroducing a draft or conscription.
00:23:24.000Yeah, Tim got into this manifesto that I haven't looked into this yet.0.68
00:23:30.000Why the fuck would a tech company be saying that we need to move towards a universal national military service?1.00
00:24:32.000The solution is we need more people to be forced into it.
00:24:38.000I mean, what would a draft look like in today's culture?
00:24:41.000I mean, like with inclusion, would it be like anybody at 18 years old can be drafted, or do you think it would still be just able bodied young men?
00:24:53.000I, you know, I'm for people doing whatever they want, but when it comes to like combat, you're going to draft women, that would be fucking insane.1.00
00:25:11.000Are you going to go inclusion and say everybody has to do it?0.99
00:25:16.000Well, then that'll be good for America because most people would say, get the fuck out of here.0.98
00:25:21.000There's not a chance in hell we're doing that.0.93
00:25:23.000I just don't understand how people that aren't elected officials that essentially just run a tech company would think it's a good idea to call for national military service.
00:27:45.000I actually was doing it for a minute, and it was around the time that I was like, one of the times I was trying to quit drinking, and I was working on a record.
00:27:55.000And I was trying it out, and it actually curbed my desire for a drink.
00:31:35.000And this one is supposed to be better because it doesn't cause muscle loss and it doesn't cause bone density loss and it's supposed to be more effective.
00:31:54.000Once weekly injectable triple agonist medication targeting GLP 1, GIP, and glucogen receptors developed by Eli Lilly, showing unprecedented weight loss results of up to 24% in phase two trials.
00:32:09.000They say that this is going to be a trillion dollar medication.0.99
00:35:06.000I think someone, oh, I think Chris Bell.
00:35:10.000Chris Bell or Mark, I think it was Mark Bell, just posted about it on his Instagram page that this guy just died.
00:35:16.000This guy was like one of America's great chemists, and he developed a lot of these things, including exogenous ketones, according to Mark.
00:35:24.000But that's one of the things that I noticed when I went into the carnivore diet, is that immediately my brain just started functioning better, which is what I try to eat most of the time.
00:35:37.000Like this morning, I ate sausage and eggs, and sausage from an animal that I shot.
00:36:31.000Oh, he had all those pro hormones or whatever those things were that people were taking that weren't totally steroids, but they were kind of steroid like.
00:38:27.000And the guy who ran the lab was called Balco Laboratories.
00:38:30.000There's this guy, Victor Conti, who eventually went to jail for that.
00:38:34.000And then when he I don't know why he went to jail, but he got out and then became an anti steroid sort of activist.
00:38:42.000And he was I don't want to say activist, but he was essentially ratting people out and saying that this guy's probably doing steroids and this is how he's doing it.
00:38:51.000And then a lot of athletes were using his company to use steroid free performance enhancing supplements that were legal.
00:39:00.000So, he would show you what's legal and how to do it.
00:39:02.000He knew a lot about it because he did the illegal stuff, too.
00:44:15.000It's like you should have some self control, and I know some people don't, but get your shit together.0.97
00:44:21.000You should, but other people are fine with alcohol.0.98
00:44:23.000They go to the bar, have a drink or two, go home, go out to dinner, have a drink, go at home, have a drink while they're watching TV, and they're fine.
00:46:27.000Like, if you don't smoke weed, a 10 milligram THC gummy will have you going, ooh.0.99
00:46:35.000Take two of those, and who knows what's going to happen to you.
00:46:39.000I just watched this movie that a friend of mine was in this movie, Laney Wilson, and we watched the movie.
00:46:48.000I don't want to spoil the movie for anybody, but it turns out that the girl, like, she went to jail because she was impaired while driving, and she was impaired by weed gummies.
00:48:10.000Oh yeah, we had that back in California yeah, like breath spray.
00:48:14.000Yeah, and I was I was still drinking at the time and me and my wife were both just hammered and we were on this uh, a ferry, like the tour bus goes on to the ferry and the ferry carries you over from uh, France to the Uk, and we were like sitting in the lounge area on the ferry a lounge area on the ferry, rather and um, he had this spray and I was like it's not doing anything, oh no, and me and my wife both kept just spraying it.
00:49:33.000And they had these breath strips, and I took one and I got on a plane.
00:49:37.000And I closed my eyes when I was lying on the plane and I was watching neon, like, cartoon characters that are made out of neon light and they were having sex.0.76
00:50:29.000You know, I mean, it's some hippie, some dude who's like pouring weed into a machine and can't remember whether I put weed in there because he's high as fuck.1.00
00:51:41.000Laws on personal choices, especially things that you might enjoy, like having a joint with your wife after dinner and just sitting there and watching Netflix together.1.00
00:51:52.000The fucking armed thugs can burst into your house and take the joint away from you.0.99
00:52:08.000Once a business is established, the business of enforcement, once that business is established, that business doesn't want to go away because now you have a bunch of people whose jobs depend on enforcing laws and enforcing these things that don't make any sense.
00:52:21.000And they want to protect that because that's their livelihood.
00:52:42.000So, legal companies that actually employ people and give the employees health care and have rules and regulations, now they're not making it.
00:52:53.000So, instead, you have fucking cartels that are growing it in California on public land because if you get caught, it's just a misdemeanor because it's legal in California.0.96
00:53:03.000So, literally, I think it's more than 80% of all the weed that's sold in the United States that's illegal is grown in California on public lands by the cartel.0.99
00:53:16.000And they use toxic pesticides and herbicides.0.99
00:53:19.000They use all kinds of shit that you're not allowed to use in normal farming.1.00
00:53:24.000And, you know, the only reason why it exists is because we've made these stupid fucking laws.1.00
00:53:30.000So now that it's Schedule 3, it's in the same category as like Tylenol with codeine, which is not bad.1.00
00:53:38.000It's certainly better than Schedule 1, which is ridiculous.
00:53:42.000So now, hopefully, once they do more testing and more studies, they can get to a point where federally.
00:53:52.000That would be the best case for everybody.
00:53:54.000Just in the same category as alcohol, get all that tax money from it, and then don't make criminals out of American citizens that just want to make personal choices.
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00:55:03.000When did it get scheduled as Schedule One?0.92
00:55:07.000Well, the whole Schedule One thing, this is what I talked about when I went to the White House recently, which is a hilarious thing to say for a retard like me.
00:55:33.000In 1970, the Richard Nixon administration passed the Controlled Substances Act, and it made DMT, psilocybin, LSD, all these different things, it made them Schedule I.
00:55:49.000So the idea is that there was no benefit, including Ibogaine, which is crazy, which means it has no medical benefit and harmful and addictive, all these different qualities that they attached to it.
00:56:03.000But the only reason they did that was to target the civil rights movement.
00:56:06.000The civil rights movement and the anti war movement.
00:56:09.000They didn't like the fact that these people were causing trouble and then they were organizing marches and doing all these different things that were disrupting the government.
00:56:18.000And there was also this movement where people were like, why are we living the way we're living?
00:57:59.000Some of the drugs that they added to aren't even psychoactive, they just threw a bunch of stuff in there and they missed a bunch of potent ones.
00:58:07.000They missed 5 methoxy DMT, they missed 5 MEO DMT, which is one of the most potent psychedelics, if not the most potent psychedelic.
00:58:15.000You used to be able to buy that online.
00:58:18.000Dude, there was a company that you could order from, and they would send you a fucking jug of it as big as this.0.98
00:58:25.000Now, the amount that gets you blasted into the center of the universe and introduces you to God is like the size that goes on your pinky.0.99
00:59:45.000Ari Shafir went on Brian Redband's podcast and took a giant hit of salvia and went under for like 10 minutes.
00:59:52.000And when he came back, he said that he had lived six months under the water with an entire different community of human beings under the water, had relationships, had a job, like had a six month experience, and then came back in that 10 minutes.
01:03:30.000And if you don't, like, if I don't get enough sleep, I'm like, whatever happens during the dream time, the sleep time, the recovery, I feel it.
01:03:42.000My waking life, like, I haven't done what I'm supposed to do by sleeping for an extended period of time.
01:04:43.000Yeah, I mean, just the idea, like the business side is just so in contrast to like the artistic sensibility.
01:04:53.000You know, an artist is supposed to be, not supposed to be, but just like psychological.
01:04:59.000Our makeup is more just like open and just more just like giving and wanting to share your craft with somebody and more emotional, you know?
01:11:09.000Approximately 40 to 50% of murders in the United States go unsolved.
01:11:13.000Means that roughly half of all homicide cases do not result in arrest or resolution.
01:11:18.000So, I was talking to somebody, and someone who lives in their community got arrested because the wife went missing, and they got the wife's DNA from this guy's chainsaw.
01:11:35.000They have no body, they have no evidence other than there's some DNA on his chainsaw.0.97
01:11:43.000And, you know, he's playing stupid, so he's in jail now.0.98
01:11:46.000But everybody that knows him and, like, Like these friends of mine, they know the family.0.99
01:18:28.000I'm sure it's the same with the music, rather, movie making business as well.0.99
01:18:33.000It's like, You almost need these rotten vampire cunts that are, you know what I mean?0.80
01:18:38.000It's like, so you're a punk band, but so that, like, when you see fellow musicians that you love, like, you give them a hug, like, you embrace each other, like, oh, we're cool, like, you know what I mean?0.99
01:18:51.000It's like, we're together now, it's all right, we're okay, it's trauma bonding, yeah, we're away from the cunts, yeah, we're away from the vampire cunts.
01:18:58.000It's like my boy Charlie Crockett, who you know, um, Charlie always says, like, you can do what they do, but they can't do what you do.0.90
01:19:14.000Like the life that that guy had and playing street music for so long and finally getting discovered.
01:19:21.000Very, like, again, but that's how you get a person like that.
01:19:24.000When you talked about his childhood, how fucked up it was and crazy, he was basically just on his own from the time he was a teenager, just running around, just singing songs.0.81
01:20:49.000You're grounded in these moments where you realize, like, God, I'm so lucky to have a beautiful family that I love and friends that I love and be able to do what I do for a living.
01:21:00.000And that feeling, like, sometimes it goes away because you're dealing with this and that and contracts and fucking then the New York Times wrote a hit piece on you.1.00
01:21:13.000But I almost feel like you need all those other shitty elements.
01:21:18.000To just reinforce the good elements, that there's this constant sort of mechanism that's going on where there's this constant process of pros and cons, of negatives and positives, and they're duking it out to see who rises.
01:21:34.000And the more the negative comes at you, the more it has this creative desire inside of you to excel with your music or your art or whatever it is that you do, to just push past it.
01:21:47.000I mean, think about some of the great songs that people have written just about.
01:21:52.000The struggles that they've gone through, just even in the music business, you know?
01:26:35.000And finally, the dude jumped off the boat and came out there.
01:26:38.000And then he was like yelling at me because I didn't have flippers on.
01:26:41.000So I was just out there with just my shorts on and some goggles.
01:26:45.000And he signaled for the boat to come around and they pulled us up out of the water.
01:26:50.000So after that, we were celebrating our life, you know.
01:26:55.000So I got completely hammered and then.
01:26:58.000I was on the boat and I was like, Well, I need a pick me up, you know, because I got to sit in with these guys and they're like college educated, like jazz musicians.1.00
01:27:08.000So, uh, this guy comes over, he's like, Hey, man, you need a Yatuski?0.98
01:29:16.000Like Neil Brennan, the comedian, the co creator of the Chappelle show, he was the first person to tell me about it because Neil's had depression problems most of his life.
01:29:26.000And we were in LA, and he said, We're in the hallway of the comedy store.
01:29:31.000He goes, I've been doing ketamine therapy for depression.
01:30:46.000That's the most progress that I'd seen in my life.0.62
01:30:50.000And I'm going to figure out some kind of strategy because, you know, like being on antidepressants and them telling you, like, well, don't just stop taking them all at once or, you know, you could have seizures and shit.
01:34:33.000I read something about magnesium and red light therapy being far more effective than even SSRIs.
01:34:39.000There is no good evidence for the simple chemical imbalance like low serotonin that directly causes depression or automatically means someone should take an SSRI, but SSRIs do change brain chemistry in ways that can help some people.
01:34:55.000So, for decades, depression was popularly explained as a serotonin imbalance in the brain.
01:35:01.000Large reviews of the research have not found convincing evidence that people with depression have consistently low serotonin or a specific measurable imbalance that explains their symptoms.
01:35:12.000Experts now describe the chemical imbalance story as an oversimplified or outdated way of explaining a much more complex condition.
01:35:21.000And here's the other thing about depression it has to be connected to the state of your life.
01:35:30.000Like, if you have a terrible job, you're in a bad relationship, you have abusive parents, you know, and you live in a shitty neighborhood, why would you be happy?0.81
01:35:46.000Well, it's quite possible that you're eating processed foods and you have all these other things that we talked about shitty life, shitty house, shitty job, shitty neighborhood, shitty parents.0.98
01:35:57.000Maybe you just need to make your life positive, like figure out a way to get your life in a positive direction.0.97
01:36:04.000They've shown that exercise is way more effective than antidepressants at actually helping people with depression.
01:37:57.000Because somebody could be doing well on it But it's also like it takes two weeks for it to really get into your system and I've I had to try like three or four different ones before one really I felt Felt like me, you know like even at my grandmother's funeral like I just felt nothing.
01:38:14.000I just felt numb And like I didn't notice it until I got into a situation where I was like this woman raised me and I can't feel anything Wow.
01:38:24.000And it wasn't until like a heavy moment like that that I was able to kind of have that perspective of like, I should be feeling something right now.
01:38:57.000What did you feel like before you took them?
01:39:00.000And what was wrong with the ones that you didn't stick with?
01:39:06.000Um, well, I don't know if it was a matter of like maybe the dosage was too high and it was just kind of creating a block because, like, you've got to feel some emotions, right?
01:39:18.000So, how did you feel before you were taking them?
01:39:20.000Like, what was bothering you that you realized you needed to take something?
01:39:24.000Well, I think a lot of it had to do with just like substance abuse, but I was feeling really anxious and really suicidal and, um, just really, really depressed, you know?
01:39:37.000And, um, Just this overwhelming sense of dread every day and just also just a lot of helplessness, like just trying to go into different doctors and just like trying to figure out like what the fuck is it that's gonna finally, you know, take this away, but also realizing, like I rely on that a little bit, you know, for what I do, for a living, you know.
01:41:01.000And then when you found one that worked, what did that do differently?
01:41:05.000So the one that I'm on now, I mean, like if I go a day without it, the withdrawal symptoms are fairly severe, just like headaches and just like complete, like.
01:41:20.000Body tingling sensations and just like it's really scary stuff.
01:41:24.000It's just, you know, so I'm gonna have to wean off of it slowly over time, like I already did.
01:41:31.000Yeah, I wonder if Ibogaine would help with that.
01:41:35.000Well, I mean, you know, it's like I was saying, like, microdosing mushrooms was like the first thing that I actually felt some kind of lasting result.
01:41:44.000Like, now, like, when I get an anxiety attack or something, I can recognize it as something just coming.
01:41:51.000From an outside force, you know, an energy that's not aligning with me.
01:41:57.000And I can recognize it, I can work through it.
01:41:59.000Where like before, I would just get a little overwhelmed, you know.
01:42:03.000But I think also just like not drinking and like having to socialize with people and having to have a little exposure therapy to like social interactions and life in general without just masking myself with drugs and alcohol has helped a lot too in that growth.0.98
01:42:22.000So, when you first started taking it, there's all the stuff that you're doing in terms of like abusing alcohol and substances and that, which definitely causes you to feel like shit and definitely causes a lot of people to have like all sorts of angst and anxiety and just fucks with you.
01:43:26.000I mean, I was talking to my boy Ernest about it because, you know, he's kind of a kindred spirit.
01:43:33.000And, like, you know, just talking about, like, I'll be working out and, like, getting after it, feeling good, listening to the Stones or whatever.
01:43:40.000And, like, I noticed, like, in my gym at my house, like, I guess they used to have a punching bag hanging up there.
01:43:48.000And just, like, you see something like that and you just take a mental note of, like, that could probably hold my weight, you know?
01:48:47.000It scares me, man, because, and again, it scares me because doctors incentivize to keep you on them and promote them and get you to do them.
01:48:55.000Also, when they've been prescribing them for people, they don't want to ever think that they're doing something bad.
01:49:01.000There's a justification process in there somewhere.
01:49:09.000And then there's also this position that they're in of expertise where they're explaining to you what you should and shouldn't do and how it works.
01:49:20.000And when you're like, this is fucking up my whole life and I can't get off of them, like, oh, it's just, why slow down?
01:50:03.000Pedaling injectables because, like, the wave of like peptides and Ozempic and all that kind of stuff now it's like it's trendy, which is very interesting to me.
01:52:36.000But there's also a bunch of people that are looking for a quick fix when there's a bunch of factors to why you don't feel happy.0.99
01:52:41.000Like we were talking about before there's lifestyle, life choices, situation that is beyond your control, like where you're born, where you live, the job that you have, where you, you know, if you're in a place of limited opportunity, And you got a bunch of shitty people around you, and life sucks every day.0.95
01:53:01.000So then there's the question of how does one develop the tools to get out of that situation and get somewhere else?
01:53:10.000And for a lot of people, it's something that helps them break out, whether it's starting a business or being a musician or an artist or something that gets you out of there.
01:53:19.000And then you start getting around more positive people, and then you make more positive lifestyle choices.0.99
01:53:24.000But you just can't expect to be happy if your life is shit.0.99
01:54:17.000Like within the artist community, the last data that I remember reading was like 70% of artists struggle with some faction of mental health.
01:54:54.000All day, every day, and then reading a bunch of negative shit about them and getting angry and upset and then carrying that weight around with them all day.0.97
01:55:04.000It's easy to say, like, don't read comments, but it's easier said than done.0.98
01:55:29.000Like, anytime you talk to a social media group, they're like, what are your engagement levels like?
01:55:34.000So they want you on the app using it, commenting, responding to people.
01:55:39.000Because if you don't and you choose not to do that, then they're like, well, can we go on there for you and respond to comments or whatever?0.98
01:55:46.000And I'm like, no, I don't want you punching in any bullshit.0.62
01:55:50.000So, I'm like, I want to be on there and be myself.0.97
01:55:52.000And, like, if this is a tool that I have to have, I want it to be me, like, authentically.
01:56:07.000And it's also, you're absorbing so much negativity just from what's going on in the world.
01:56:13.000Like, on any given day, if I open up Twitter and I just start reading what people are upset about, it's just like, oh my God, the whole world is falling apart.
01:56:21.000Everyone's mad at everything and everyone.0.57
01:56:24.000And every little, whatever fucking social issue, political issue, world issue, economic issue, everyone's blaming everyone and everyone's pissed.1.00
01:56:35.000And there's so many grifters and psychopaths that are just on there all day using it, stirring up bullshit.1.00
01:58:46.000So by the time I came along, everybody was, you know, a lot of my family traded in, like, I think they associated music with a lot of the secular lifestyle.
01:59:00.000So they kind of, when they all got born again and into the church, that's around the time I came around, you know.
01:59:08.000So the music was really associated with church.
02:00:01.000Yeah, it's like there's a beautiful moment where you're all experiencing it together and you're all clapping and cheering or you're all dancing and singing along.
02:04:43.000He sent me some fucking conspiracies.0.99
02:04:46.000That are often sometimes I have to say, Hey, that's not real, but every now and then I'll send you some ones that make you question reality.0.96
02:04:56.000I like the thought of you talking Rick off of a ledge, not necessarily talking off a ledge, just letting him know that some of the you know, it's hard to know what's real and what's not real out there in the world if you're not like deep into the bowels of conspiracy theory movement, yeah, you know, right.
02:05:14.000But again, a guy like Rick, like his sensibility, like he.
02:05:18.000He has a, it's like a very valuable position.
02:05:21.000A person just with a unique mind that is just helping shape how music gets produced and created.
02:05:29.000And because, like, whatever it takes, whatever it, I mean, it's not a science, like a math thing, or a, it's not carpentry, like you have to level this and square that.
02:05:40.000Like, no, man, there's like some weirdness and there's love in there and hate in there.
02:05:46.000There's, there's, there's a lot of stuff that, Intangible.
02:05:51.000It's hard to describe why this is better and why this is good, but when you hear it, you know.
02:07:11.000He was just, he was all about, like, instead of instruction, he called it outstruction.
02:07:16.000And, like, Billy Bob worked on a documentary about him in, like, 2003.
02:07:23.000And he was just, like, his whole philosophy on music and just, like, why we do it and just pointing out the hilarity of, like, the business and, like, the coffee getters, as he referred to them.
02:07:33.000You know, we have a whole industry built around coffee getters now.
02:07:45.000But the Colonel Bruce Hampton, I, you know, I just, what I do now is I just buy copies of his documentary, Basically Frightened, and I just give it to people who aren't hip to the knowledge.
02:11:41.000That's what my process is like in the studio, man.
02:11:44.000This last record we did, we had a projector and we'd play Giant with James Dean, or we'd play Easy Rider or Big Lebowski, or films that inspired us, films that we really gravitated towards.
02:12:02.000All the while, waking up in the morning and reading East of Eden and just some of these great architects of Americana and just being inspired on every turn.
02:12:12.000Watching live concert footage of bands that we love, Marshall Tucker Band, Skinner, whatever the case.
02:12:19.000Just inundating yourself with inspiring stuff, you know?
02:12:24.000Just something to get the juices flowing.
02:13:00.000Not only that, but it was a thing in the early days of pornography where couples would go out and, like, Johnny Carson went to see Deep Throat.
02:13:23.000That pornography, like, there was always stag films, right?
02:13:28.000Like, that was the thing that they used to make, like, in the early days of movies.0.52
02:13:31.000They would film people having sex, and you could watch it, like, at a stag party, which was like a bachelor party.
02:13:38.000But then people tried to make films, like, artistic films that had people having sex in them, which is really interesting that we find that abhorrent.
02:13:52.000Like, people don't like that in today's society.
02:13:55.000We don't mind, like, this show from that I was telling you about.
02:14:49.000Like, if it was violence, like if it was a scene where she beat him to death with a baseball bat, people would be like, wow, what a crazy movie.
02:16:29.000I mean, hell, I did a commercial for, like, I did a shoot for this car, and, like, they couldn't have me in the car while it was moving for insurance purposes.
02:16:39.000So they had to, like, make it seem like I was in the car while it was moving.
02:18:13.000It was a porno theater at one point in time.
02:18:15.000And, like, people cared about, like, the quality of, like, the audio production in those films, and, like, you know, and these rooms sound really good.
02:18:33.000One of the best scenes, they're in the middle of London and they're in an adult movie theater and these people are watching pornography.1.00
02:19:46.000In the late 70s, my dad told me him and his friends went to go see this like Broadway production or off Broadway production where like everybody was like nude and it was like this really, you know, it was like this really racy thing.
02:20:19.000Note that several mainstream celebrities appear to have seen Deep Throat, including Martin Scorsese, Brian De Palma, Truman Capote, Jack Nicholson, Johnny Carson, Spiro Agnew, Frank Sinatra, and others.
02:20:41.000It's like that is not normal in today's society to even think that a bunch of people would say they went to go see a porn film.
02:20:50.000I think this is also so Midnight Cowboy, which is where you guys started this 1969, which is before this, and won Best Picture as the first X rated or NC 17 movie.
02:21:02.000So there started a little bit of a trend then.
02:21:58.000Yeah, but even, I mean, like in that film, it's like a distant thought that John Voight's character keeps going back to, like the rape scene.
02:22:09.000Whereas, like, when was the last time you saw it?
02:23:23.000It's weird what was, but it's also weird that there was a movie that was an actual porn movie that a bunch of people just went to see and talked about.
02:23:31.000Like today, people want to pretend they don't even watch porn.
02:24:50.000BBC reported tracing one of these popular figures back to single content filter company press release, not an independent audited measurement.
02:25:00.000I bet now, today, because of YouTube and the amount of streaming that goes on with Instagram and TikTok, I bet it probably isn't as high as it used to be, the percentage-wise, because there's so much more content that's being streamed now than ever before.
02:25:17.000Porn related searches are 13% on the web and 20% on mobile devices.
02:29:30.000In 1982, after an eight year hiatus from porn, Reems returned to the industry and performed in the film Society Affairs and reportedly received a six figure salary.
02:30:04.000But if we could destigmatize it and, like, not give people unrealistic ideas of what happens in the bedroom and noted as something that is entertainment, you know?
02:30:16.000I think the fear is that the women that are in it, for the rest of their life, they're always going to be thought of a certain way.
02:30:25.000They don't really have a like this, they're thought as CD, but they don't thought as like you know, girls that got used.
02:30:34.000Well, I think what's gonna get weird is AI porn because then you can watch porn and there's no victims, right?1.00
02:30:41.000There's no person you feel bad for, like oh, that poor girl, everyone's gonna know that she sucked dick on camera, she took it in the ass on camera.0.99
02:30:49.000It's not a real person, so then maybe you can watch that and remove any kind of victim.1.00
02:38:23.000I stopped paying attention, but Star Wars is now in Fortnite, and the games that they made for Star Wars are just like, nope, it's just in this thing now.
02:39:32.000But haven't people learned how to play guitar, an actual guitar, because of Guitar Hero?
02:39:36.000There's a game, there's technically a game, it's like a training aid called Rocksmith, which is a way you actually have a guitar and it's plugged into it, not on run.
02:40:01.000Like, if you got, like, you know, like these games, like the sandbox game Deadwood Mansion, you get a gun.
02:40:09.000And if you got really good, like Staccato has a VR gun game.
02:40:14.000Staccato, they make pistols, and there's a VR gun game, and you get a plastic staccato.
02:40:22.000And when you're playing this game, like, you're actually pointing the trigger, and when you pull the trigger, there's actually like a muzzle jump.
02:41:05.000I mean, what they really should do is make one of those things with the weight of an actual steel gun so that you're accustomed to the actual feel of the thing.
02:41:14.000And then, oh, God, why can't they do that?
02:42:24.000Did you learn by lessons or did you just learn by playing?
02:42:28.000So initially I just learned by just sitting around the house, watching cartoons, playing guitar.
02:42:35.000My grandfather would teach me something, he'd give me like a project basically.
02:42:40.000Or my dad would leave me a record to listen to.
02:42:43.000And it was just his old record collection.
02:42:45.000So a lot of Allman Brothers band, a lot of Skinner, Marshall Tucker band, that kind of thing.
02:42:51.000And then I would just sit at home all day and just go over it.
02:42:55.000And then later when I was in high school, I studied jazz theory with Steve Watson.
02:43:03.000It was like a vocational school for the arts.
02:43:06.000It was called the Fine Arts Center in Greenville, South Carolina.
02:43:09.000And I'd go there in the afternoons and study jazz theory.
02:43:16.000Which was really beneficial because it's good to put a vocabulary to the things that you kind of knew, but you didn't know how to quite name it.
02:44:22.000You could bring a Terrence Howard back in here.
02:44:24.000We could start getting into some weird stuff.
02:44:26.000Honestly, and then you could bring in ancient Egypt, and so this is all vibrations, and you could probably translate hieroglyphs into some of this music theory stuff.0.95