The Joe Rogan Experience - June 12, 2026


Joe Rogan Experience #2514 - Cameron Hanes


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2 hours and 53 minutes

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90

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On this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the boys talk about the UFC, lightning, and the worst thing you can do in the middle of the night: get hit by lightning. Also, we talk about a terrorist attack.

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00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
00:00:10.000 We can use headphones.
00:00:14.000 Oh, no, we don't need them.
00:00:15.000 Okay.
00:00:16.000 Whatever you use. 1.00
00:00:17.000 We have to wear your sweet hat. 0.88
00:00:18.000 I don't want to fuck it up. 0.99
00:00:19.000 There you go.
00:00:19.000 Just got it.
00:00:20.000 Look, we got an American flag. 0.75
00:00:22.000 We got a skull.
00:00:22.000 We got camo.
00:00:23.000 What the fuck else do you want? 1.00
00:00:25.000 Are you American or not? 1.00
00:00:27.000 Oh, nice, dude.
00:00:28.000 You're all in for 250.
00:00:30.000 The 250th anniversary.
00:00:32.000 It's also the only socks I brought on this trip, somehow.
00:00:35.000 So I wear them every day now.
00:00:36.000 You only brought one pair or one style?
00:00:38.000 No, one pair of socks and no underwear.
00:00:41.000 Oh, God.
00:00:41.000 I've done that before.
00:00:42.000 We have to wash your socks in the sink with shampoo, with hotel shampoo.
00:00:46.000 Yeah.
00:00:47.000 And then wear them when they're wet.
00:00:48.000 And it's like I went on a run here.
00:00:51.000 It is muggy. 0.98
00:00:52.000 Sweated my ass off. 0.97
00:00:52.000 Oh, yeah, baby. 0.97
00:00:53.000 That's the fear of this weekend at the UFC.
00:00:56.000 Yeah.
00:00:57.000 Because it's East Coast.
00:00:58.000 It gets very muggy.
00:00:59.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:01:00.000 And D.C.
00:01:00.000 So these guys are all working out outside right now.
00:01:02.000 I saw a video of Eamon Zahabi working out outside and Ilya Tapori is working out outside and.
00:01:09.000 You know, you have to feel that heavy, heavy air.
00:01:13.000 It changes things.
00:01:14.000 Oh, yeah, man.
00:01:15.000 I remember when I was a kid, I went to the Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs.
00:01:20.000 I see those thunderstorms, dude. 1.00
00:01:22.000 Oh, yeah, we're fucked. 0.99
00:01:23.000 There is a canopy that's over the cage. 1.00
00:01:23.000 Fuck. 1.00
00:01:26.000 They put a canopy over the cage. 1.00
00:01:28.000 Well, if lightning hits that, that's not good.
00:01:30.000 Well, if it hits the canopy, I think we're okay. 0.99
00:01:33.000 I mean, I think I'm more worried about a terrorist attack than I am about fucking lightning. 0.98
00:01:37.000 No, that's true. 0.99
00:01:38.000 But I probably should be more worried about lightning.
00:01:40.000 Um, I actually have friends that have been hit by lightning.
00:01:42.000 We do.
00:01:43.000 Remy got hit by lightning.
00:01:43.000 Remy.
00:01:44.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:01:46.000 I was full.
00:01:46.000 So I know.
00:01:47.000 I don't know anybody who's been hit by a terrorist attack.
00:01:51.000 By lightning?
00:01:52.000 Yeah, we had crazy storms here.
00:01:54.000 You playing golf?
00:01:55.000 No, but I was outside.
00:01:56.000 Thank you.
00:01:56.000 I thought the storm was over, and I was out on my balcony, and I was like, wow, this is cool.
00:02:00.000 Oh, that's not a good spot to be.
00:02:01.000 One hit.
00:02:03.000 I'm 500 feet in the sky.
00:02:04.000 I'm already up there.
00:02:05.000 And then it hit, and I started hearing sizzling near me. 0.89
00:02:07.000 I'm like, holy shit, I got to get inside. 0.54
00:02:10.000 Like electricity sizzling? 0.99
00:02:11.000 Yeah, what the fuck is that? 0.99
00:02:12.000 Where is this sizzling? 1.00
00:02:12.000 Oh, my God, that's so scary. 1.00
00:02:14.000 That's such a Fucked up way to go. 0.89
00:02:16.000 Do you ever see that one video where the guy is walking down the street and he gets hit by lightning? 0.98
00:02:20.000 He wakes up, walks down the street a little bit further.
00:02:22.000 He's recovering, and he gets hit again.
00:02:25.000 Dude got hit by lightning twice.
00:02:27.000 And, like, I don't know if it's time lapse or what.
00:02:29.000 I don't know how long he was out for because it's like one of those ring cams that catches him. 0.99
00:02:33.000 This guy got fucking cooked twice. 0.99
00:02:35.000 You know, you're having a bad day. 0.99
00:02:37.000 I forget what Remy said happened to him after he got hit, but I remember his hearing was fucked up for a long time or something like that. 0.95
00:02:44.000 Yeah.
00:02:45.000 We, uh, I was, we do the mountains back home, like run them.
00:02:48.000 And there's, we were up on Diamond Peak, me and Tanner last year.
00:02:52.000 And a storm, you know, kind of like the weather report, like having some clouds or whatever.
00:02:56.000 It wasn't supposed to be thunderstorms, but you could hear kind of growling.
00:03:00.000 And you're like, God, is that coming this way?
00:03:02.000 And it doesn't have to be that close.
00:03:04.000 I mean, I think, I think lightning can hit from 10 miles away.
00:03:09.000 Yes.
00:03:09.000 Really?
00:03:10.000 It can go that, it can go sideways.
00:03:12.000 So anyway, if you see that building, you should get off.
00:03:15.000 The top of a mountain, right?
00:03:17.000 Well, me and Tanner were up there and we're still wanting to get the summit and then bomb off.
00:03:21.000 Well, we're up there and he goes, he goes, Dad, he goes, watch.
00:03:25.000 And we had trekking poles and he had them like this and they were like ticking, like from electricity.
00:03:31.000 Electricity was in his trekking poles. 0.98
00:03:34.000 Then I said, let's get the fuck off this thing. 0.92
00:03:37.000 And so we bombed off and there's these kids down that were like, they said, should we go up? 0.99
00:03:42.000 And I said, I'd wait a little bit.
00:03:44.000 And the girl's hair was standing up. 1.00
00:03:46.000 Oh my God. 1.00
00:03:49.000 Oh my God.
00:03:50.000 That's so crazy.
00:03:51.000 Yeah.
00:03:51.000 It is nuts.
00:03:52.000 Not that.
00:03:53.000 So they.
00:03:53.000 Yeah.
00:03:54.000 This guy died in Florida last year in what they call blue sky lightning.
00:03:58.000 What?
00:03:59.000 It can.
00:03:59.000 Yeah.
00:04:00.000 It jumped from several miles away.
00:04:03.000 Wow.
00:04:04.000 You're just standing on the beach.
00:04:05.000 There was a blue sky above.
00:04:06.000 Storm is near to that.
00:04:07.000 Yeah.
00:04:07.000 And I think it can go.
00:04:09.000 I know I looked it up after that because I was like, well, I need to know.
00:04:11.000 I'm in the mountains all the time.
00:04:14.000 His death nonetheless serves a grim reminder.
00:04:15.000 Florida led the U.S. in both lightning fatalities, 12, and strikes per square mile, 76. 0.99
00:04:23.000 Holy shit. 0.99
00:04:25.000 By the way, did you see that guy in Florida that he was running from the cops and he got killed by an alligator? 0.99
00:04:29.000 No.
00:04:30.000 Did you see that one?
00:04:31.000 Dude, it's body cam footage.
00:04:31.000 Uh uh.
00:04:33.000 The cops got the gun out and he's like, stop, stop, stop.
00:04:37.000 The guy's running.
00:04:38.000 He's going in the water and all of a sudden, boom.
00:04:42.000 Like, right? 0.98
00:04:43.000 I'd rather get shot. 1.00
00:04:44.000 I'd rather get shot. 1.00
00:04:45.000 I'd rather get shot than killed by a fucking dinosaur. 1.00
00:04:47.000 Oh my God. 1.00
00:04:48.000 You get shot. 1.00
00:04:49.000 The bullet's going to hurt like fuck. 1.00
00:04:51.000 You're going to be in shock. 1.00
00:04:53.000 You're going to realize you're bleeding out.
00:04:54.000 You're going to have to say, I wish I was a better person.
00:04:56.000 I'm going to miss my family. 1.00
00:04:58.000 But that fucking alligator is going to take a while to kill you. 1.00
00:05:01.000 It's going to roll with you, it's going to drag you under the water. 1.00
00:05:05.000 You're going to realize you can't get free.
00:05:07.000 You're going to try to poke its eyes.
00:05:08.000 It's not going to work. 1.00
00:05:10.000 Fuck. 1.00
00:05:11.000 It's going to be a miserable existence until it's over. 1.00
00:05:13.000 Do you see that one video of a dude?
00:05:14.000 He got attacked by an alligator, lost his arm. 0.99
00:05:18.000 So it bit his fucking arm off. 0.99
00:05:19.000 And he made his way back home. 0.99
00:05:22.000 So they're talking to him right when he got out of the swamp.
00:05:27.000 And he got one arm.
00:05:28.000 And he looked like there's not a chance in hell he was sober during any of this experience. 0.99
00:05:35.000 He looked like he had been meth'd up since the fucking 12th grade. 0.99
00:05:38.000 Oh, my God. 0.99
00:05:39.000 This dude, yeah, this is the dude. 0.99
00:05:40.000 He just fucking lost his stump. 0.99
00:05:44.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:05:45.000 That's where I was. 0.99
00:05:46.000 He wanted for three fucking days with one arm. 0.99
00:05:48.000 Oh my God. 0.99
00:05:49.000 Well, first of all, how do you not bleed out?
00:05:51.000 I know, dude.
00:05:52.000 That's what he's going to say.
00:05:53.000 Did you keep pressure on that?
00:05:54.000 So my arm went backwards like this completely.
00:05:55.000 What was he saying?
00:05:57.000 What was he saying?
00:05:58.000 I laid her on my right hand side.
00:06:00.000 So I went to swim.
00:06:02.000 And she got my forearm.
00:06:03.000 So I grabbed her like this.
00:06:06.000 And, like, she's trying to roll, but she snapped her head.
00:06:09.000 So my arm went backwards like this completely.
00:06:11.000 He says, he fought for his life.
00:06:13.000 She drug me out three times.
00:06:15.000 I like how that character comes in so important.
00:06:17.000 He says he fought for his life.
00:06:19.000 I can imagine them in an editing bay.
00:06:22.000 Should I do that again?
00:06:23.000 Is that good?
00:06:23.000 No.
00:06:24.000 I know.
00:06:24.000 He says he fought for his life.
00:06:27.000 Yeah, we got that part with the no arm.
00:06:30.000 I went ahead and assumed that. 1.00
00:06:31.000 He fucking wandered through alligator and snake infested swamp for three fucking days. 0.99
00:06:38.000 Thanks for telling us what we need to be believing here. 1.00
00:06:41.000 You know, when I went alligator hunting out there a few years ago, you know, that alligator that we shot that's in the front?
00:06:47.000 Bro, there is.
00:06:48.000 Everywhere.
00:06:49.000 Yeah.
00:06:49.000 If you ever want to come, it's really fun.
00:06:51.000 I know you don't do much hunting outside of bow hunting. 0.99
00:06:54.000 But they need to be killed. 1.00
00:06:54.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:06:56.000 They're vastly overpopulated.
00:06:58.000 But you can't do a bow?
00:06:59.000 You can.
00:07:00.000 But it's.
00:07:00.000 Yeah.
00:07:01.000 Yeah.
00:07:02.000 Well, that's like everything.
00:07:03.000 It's pretty sketchy.
00:07:04.000 But this, you know, I know Dudley's killed alligators with a bow in Florida.
00:07:09.000 Yeah.
00:07:09.000 You just got to catch them in the right spot.
00:07:11.000 You got to basically hit them like right behind the head. 0.99
00:07:13.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:07:13.000 And I think you'd probably hit them with a fixed blade, right? 0.99
00:07:16.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:07:17.000 Iron will or something.
00:07:18.000 You got to brain them. 0.90
00:07:19.000 Yeah.
00:07:20.000 So there's like that bump back there.
00:07:21.000 Then it's like halfway in between the eye and the bump, something like that.
00:07:24.000 So you want to be like 20 yards.
00:07:25.000 Yeah, it's going to be close.
00:07:26.000 Yeah, it's going to be close. 0.99
00:07:27.000 Fucking exit right in there. 0.99
00:07:28.000 For sure. 1.00
00:07:29.000 The good thing about that, if you fuck up and just kind of ricochet, it's going to be fine. 0.99
00:07:33.000 You know what I mean? 0.99
00:07:34.000 It's like literally.
00:07:35.000 It's not making.
00:07:36.000 If you go for the lungs and miss, hit it in the stomach, that's not good.
00:07:39.000 It's going to be pretty sick and miserable death.
00:07:42.000 It'd probably still live. 1.00
00:07:43.000 Those fucking things are such monsters. 1.00
00:07:45.000 They're such monsters. 1.00
00:07:47.000 I was thinking, you know, we've killed a bear, Kip killed a bear up at the rivets with three legs. 0.65
00:07:52.000 Oh, yeah.
00:07:53.000 I'm just like.
00:07:54.000 How? 1.00
00:07:55.000 One of them will eat the other one's leg. 1.00
00:07:56.000 They'll bite their fucking legs off. 1.00
00:07:58.000 Like, how do you, you know? 1.00
00:07:59.000 How do you survive?
00:08:00.000 Yeah, we have to get antibiotics for like a hangnail. 0.95
00:08:04.000 I think our whole biome is probably all fucked up from washing it all the time. 0.87
00:08:11.000 Yeah, probably. 0.97
00:08:12.000 I mean, it completely makes sense, right?
00:08:14.000 Yeah.
00:08:15.000 Animals don't seem to get a whole lot of infections like we do unless they're farm animals.
00:08:20.000 Right.
00:08:20.000 Or like occasionally, it happens all the time in the rut, right?
00:08:24.000 Like when you're dressing an animal, you find all these holes in the side of it that are like pussy. 0.99
00:08:29.000 I remember one time, one of the elk. 0.99
00:08:30.000 That we shot at Tijon had his back leg was just filled with pus.
00:08:35.000 Like the whole back, it was all pus because he had gotten stabbed. 1.00
00:08:40.000 It's usually in that back because usually they turn because they know they're getting their ass kicked. 0.99
00:08:43.000 And so it's in their hind quarter. 0.99
00:08:45.000 It's like the dominant bull gets a jab in before they go. 0.99
00:08:48.000 And you've seen those Tijon bulls, those 1100 pound fuckers. 0.99
00:08:52.000 Dude. 1.00
00:08:52.000 Imagine one of those stabbing you in the head. 1.00
00:08:54.000 No.
00:08:55.000 And also, if you see antlers there that are broke because they're so heavy, like there's.
00:09:01.000 That bone is so thick for their hours.
00:09:03.000 If a bull's break, imagine the force required to break that. 1.00
00:09:07.000 And imagine that going right up your ass. 1.00
00:09:10.000 God. 1.00
00:09:12.000 For my camera guy, that'd be a dream.
00:09:15.000 But for most of us now, they find them with these holes in them.
00:09:21.000 When you shoot them and you find out what they've been through, no wonder why they barely moved when they got hit with an arrow.
00:09:27.000 They probably didn't even know.
00:09:28.000 When two bulls are fighting and then one of them gets hit with an arrow, they barely react.
00:09:32.000 No.
00:09:32.000 That'd be like, what was that?
00:09:34.000 Fly landed on me.
00:09:35.000 They're just so locked into war.
00:09:35.000 It's crazy.
00:09:39.000 Especially if you get in between the ribs and don't hit anything.
00:09:43.000 Right, just slices right through.
00:09:45.000 Just like that bull would be like, ow.
00:09:47.000 What was that?
00:09:47.000 Wait, what?
00:09:48.000 And all of a sudden, woo, I'm feeling woozy.
00:09:48.000 Nothing?
00:09:50.000 Yeah.
00:09:51.000 Did you find that video?
00:09:51.000 And then it's over.
00:09:52.000 See if you can find the video of the guy with the body cam footage getting killed by the alligator.
00:09:57.000 It doesn't look very good.
00:09:57.000 It's hard to see it.
00:10:00.000 You can see a little bit, though.
00:10:02.000 I just think it's exciting.
00:10:05.000 It's just.
00:10:06.000 You love watching chaos online.
00:10:08.000 I don't know why, but I do.
00:10:10.000 Put the headphones on there.
00:10:12.000 Let's see what.
00:10:14.000 I like the music.
00:10:15.000 Okay.
00:10:16.000 So here it is.
00:10:17.000 The cop's got his gun out.
00:10:18.000 Oh, this isn't a very good.
00:10:20.000 Yeah.
00:10:21.000 See, the cop's got his gun out, and he's like trying to think of what to do, and this dude's getting jacked.
00:10:25.000 Oh, there goes the alligator, too.
00:10:26.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:10:27.000 Whoo, shit. 1.00
00:10:28.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:10:30.000 Oh, did you see that line of the alligator?
00:10:32.000 Yeah, back that up a little bit so you can see it.
00:10:34.000 So the dude's trying to swim away, and look at the alligator.
00:10:37.000 Boom!
00:10:38.000 That's a wrap, son.
00:10:39.000 Did he put his hands up here?
00:10:41.000 I don't think so.
00:10:43.000 I think he just.
00:10:44.000 So, back it up a little bit more.
00:10:46.000 So, you see the guy swimming away.
00:10:48.000 What's that?
00:10:49.000 Being good Samaritan.
00:10:49.000 It's a different version.
00:10:51.000 Oh, no, the same lady narrating. 0.99
00:10:53.000 That's when a gator slammed right towards him.
00:10:58.000 And that's not good.
00:11:00.000 It was a full on attack.
00:11:03.000 It was a full on attack.
00:11:05.000 Like, as if, what, a halfway attack?
00:11:06.000 No, they were fine. 1.00
00:11:07.000 It's a fucking dinosaur. 1.00
00:11:08.000 Look at this. 1.00
00:11:11.000 There was another story.
00:11:13.000 In Florida, a few years back, where a guy was running from the cops.
00:11:16.000 I think it was a high speed chase, gets to a bridge, stops the car, throws it in park, jumps off the bridge, boom, alligator gets him. 0.99
00:11:24.000 Literally, like, landed right on a fucking alligator. 0.98
00:11:26.000 But that's the reality of the water. 0.99
00:11:29.000 All the freshwater in Florida is filled with alligators.
00:11:32.000 They have to check Disneyland all the time for Disney World.
00:11:37.000 They have to check it all the time.
00:11:39.000 Remember a little kid got killed there a few years ago? 1.00
00:11:41.000 Imagine you take your kid to fucking Disney World and it gets killed by a dinosaur. 1.00
00:11:46.000 Rough. 0.99
00:11:47.000 Well, and also, it's like, you know how, I don't know, you have dogs, but are they ever around when you're eating and like something falls on the ground?
00:11:55.000 They're always checking the ground.
00:11:56.000 Well, that's what alligators do in the water.
00:11:59.000 They're just sitting there, just chilling out.
00:12:01.000 They hear a little splash.
00:12:02.000 They're like, oh, like a dog.
00:12:04.000 Was that a crumb hitting the floor, the dinner table?
00:12:08.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:12:08.000 So they're just over there and they'll just eat whatever hit the water.
00:12:11.000 Especially if something seems like it's struggling.
00:12:13.000 Oh, I got you.
00:12:13.000 Yeah.
00:12:14.000 Opportunists.
00:12:15.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:12:16.000 So they're just chilling, just waiting for shit to hit the water, which is that's what fishing is, too. 0.95
00:12:20.000 You know, you see that the fly is hatching, you try to match it, try to put it on there. 0.97
00:12:24.000 And like, they're like, okay, got one to hit the water.
00:12:26.000 Right.
00:12:27.000 But yeah, alligators are masters of taking advantage of opportunity.
00:12:30.000 And every once in a while, some.
00:12:32.000 Comes off a bridge and hey, big meal.
00:12:34.000 It's really shocking how many of them there are in the Everglades.
00:12:38.000 It's like, you know, I went, I guess it was three years ago, and when we were there, it's like everywhere you look, you have to look for an alligator.
00:12:47.000 It's like nothing I've ever seen.
00:12:49.000 I thought it'd be hard to find them.
00:12:51.000 I thought like we'd go out there, you know, you look around, you probably glass a little, see eyeballs pop up. 0.99
00:12:57.000 No, they're fucking all over the water. 0.98
00:13:00.000 Like how many would you see? 0.99
00:13:01.000 We saw 15, 20, maybe more.
00:13:03.000 Just chilling. 1.00
00:13:04.000 30, you see, like, some movement on the water, and then they dunk under, and you're in the fucking swamp, man. 1.00
00:13:04.000 Maybe. 1.00
00:13:10.000 It's sketchy as shit. 0.99
00:13:12.000 The whole thing. 0.96
00:13:12.000 I've never done it. 0.96
00:13:13.000 It's very weird.
00:13:15.000 It's very weird because you're like, this is a mess.
00:13:17.000 Yeah.
00:13:18.000 Like, there's the feeling that you get there, like, oh, this is infested.
00:13:21.000 Like, you're infested by dinosaurs.
00:13:23.000 And then, meanwhile, you go an hour and a half later, you're in Miami, having a steak, drinking a nice Pinot Noir.
00:13:30.000 You think you're in civilization. 0.99
00:13:33.000 You're fucking a half a day's drive from monsters. 1.00
00:13:39.000 An infested jungle filled with monsters. 1.00
00:13:41.000 And imagine if you weren't in a boat.
00:13:43.000 Like, what if you were just somehow, something happened to the boat? 1.00
00:13:46.000 Oh, you fucked. 1.00
00:13:47.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:13:47.000 What would you do if, like, the boat sank out there? 1.00
00:13:50.000 Well, we weren't in a boat.
00:13:51.000 Oh, okay.
00:13:52.000 We drove out, we were with guides, and we drove out in trucks.
00:13:56.000 And they know, like, where the lake areas are, where the, you know, it's very dense out there.
00:13:56.000 Oh, okay.
00:14:01.000 It's very thick.
00:14:03.000 It's just hot and muggy. 1.00
00:14:05.000 And these fuckers just, you see them pop up. 1.00
00:14:08.000 You see the eyeballs pop up. 1.00
00:14:09.000 You see some motion. 0.99
00:14:10.000 But you fucking see them everywhere. 0.98
00:14:12.000 And then you look around at how big the Everglades is and you go, how many of them are out here? 0.99
00:14:12.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:14:17.000 Yeah.
00:14:17.000 Because it's not like we found the honey spot.
00:14:21.000 Right.
00:14:21.000 You know what I mean?
00:14:22.000 It's like the whole Everglades.
00:14:24.000 And there, when I was a kid, you know, I lived down there in Florida when I was 11 years old, from 11 to 13.
00:14:31.000 I lived in Gainesville.
00:14:33.000 And there were alligators back then, but they were endangered.
00:14:36.000 And so you weren't allowed to kill them. 1.00
00:14:38.000 And so they would kill people's dogs and shit. 1.00
00:14:39.000 I remember this lady in my neighborhood, her dog got jacked. 1.00
00:14:42.000 She was walking her dog by Lake Alice and it just snatched her dog and took it away.
00:14:46.000 This is like the late 70s.
00:14:48.000 And we were feeding them marshmallows.
00:14:51.000 So you go to the dock and you throw marshmallows, and the alligators would come up and eat the marshmallows.
00:14:56.000 And it was, you know, it was weird.
00:14:58.000 It was like, it's kind of cool that they're there.
00:14:59.000 It freaks you out a little bit, but they weren't dangerous.
00:15:01.000 Right.
00:15:02.000 Cut to all these years later.
00:15:04.000 Now, because no one hunted them, because they basically were making shoes out of them back in the day, and they almost hunted them to extinction.
00:15:11.000 And they should probably start that again.
00:15:14.000 Yeah. 0.91
00:15:15.000 We need to bring alligator shoes.
00:15:16.000 Such a need to happen.
00:15:17.000 Like, back in the 70s, that was the cool shoes.
00:15:21.000 Like, in the pool halls where I used to play pool, the old guys would talk about how a guy was really dressed up.
00:15:28.000 He had his gaiters on.
00:15:29.000 He looked good.
00:15:30.000 He had a nice suit.
00:15:31.000 He had his gaiters on.
00:15:32.000 His gaiters.
00:15:34.000 I got gaiter boots.
00:15:35.000 Alligator shoes.
00:15:36.000 Luke Casey.
00:15:37.000 Yeah.
00:15:37.000 Gaiter boots seem to be a different thing because it kind of almost makes sense.
00:15:37.000 Yeah.
00:15:43.000 Because, like, you get boots that are made out of, like, Snakeskin and ostrich, and like that's kind of a cowboy boot thing.
00:15:50.000 But alligator dress shoes is, yeah, you got your gaiters on, yeah, very hard to get.
00:15:56.000 Polish it nice. 0.61
00:15:57.000 That's Ric Flair.
00:15:58.000 Oh, yeah.
00:15:59.000 Remember Ric Flair?
00:16:02.000 I love that.
00:16:03.000 Bro, I got to apologize to Ric Flair.
00:16:05.000 He got scammed.
00:16:07.000 So, some person reached out and said that they were representing this podcast and that he was going to come on the podcast.
00:16:14.000 I think Tim Dillon, this happened with him too.
00:16:19.000 It didn't happen with him where they got him, but they send you an email saying that they're going to have you come on a podcast, but they need your bank information.
00:16:28.000 Yeah, they'll pay you.
00:16:29.000 Sometimes it's like $3,000 because I've got those too.
00:16:32.000 And what it really is, is they're just going to empty your bank account.
00:16:36.000 And it's just a scam.
00:16:38.000 So if you get an email like that from me, it's not real.
00:16:40.000 Sorry, Ric Flair.
00:16:42.000 So Ric Flair, I don't know if he lost his money, but Tim Dillon, they tried to get him on the Amy Poehler show.
00:16:48.000 So that's the scam.
00:16:49.000 The scam was they reached out to, he talked about it on his podcast.
00:16:54.000 The scammer reached out and said, I'm representing the Amy Poehler show.
00:16:57.000 We would love to have you on.
00:16:59.000 And he was like, that doesn't seem like that would be a good thing for Amy Poehler.
00:17:03.000 I don't think I'm a good guest.
00:17:04.000 And he was like, I don't think this is real.
00:17:07.000 And then it says, you know, we need your bank account information.
00:17:10.000 And so many people just like don't think about it or they're boomers or.
00:17:15.000 Well, they make it seem legit because I know Pat McAfee, I got an email from them about coming on the show.
00:17:22.000 And I'd been kind of communicating with some of those guys before.
00:17:25.000 And so I'm like, maybe, I mean, for me, it's like a big deal like ESPN and Pat McAfee.
00:17:31.000 He's like, To me, he reminds me of you.
00:17:32.000 He just kind of does what says, whatever he wants.
00:17:34.000 Does he's free?
00:17:36.000 If the bosses say whatever, he's like, Off.
00:17:38.000 I just love that unfiltered, like, true thoughts.
00:17:42.000 He's a guy that's got you money that says you.
00:17:45.000 That's what I love.
00:17:46.000 It's just, it's beautiful.
00:17:47.000 So, I mean, I celebrate that's that's a you know, First Amendment in his glory right there.
00:17:53.000 And he seems like a genuine good, yeah, yeah.
00:17:56.000 I don't know him, but it's like, I don't know him either.
00:17:58.000 But when you hear a guy talk enough, yeah, yeah, you can assume or you can like.
00:18:02.000 Put the pieces of puzzle together, but and they've worn my stuff on there, so I'm like, oh, maybe this is real, right?
00:18:08.000 Oh, no.
00:18:08.000 So the guy I asked, he's just an AO, he's just a great guy, but he said, no, it's not legit.
00:18:17.000 But they had me because it was like, it almost seemed real.
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00:19:32.000 Yeah, somebody asked me, like, hey, you know, they said, well, they said, can you do anything about it?
00:19:38.000 Unfortunately, I can't.
00:19:39.000 Like, there's nothing you could do other than tell people it's a scam.
00:19:43.000 I don't want to tell you how I get guests.
00:19:45.000 I don't want to give up the process.
00:19:48.000 But I have a guy, and I have this guy reach out to people.
00:19:52.000 And, you know, I don't want to talk too much about it because I don't want people to imitate that and pretend that that's how they do it.
00:19:58.000 But if you get an email.
00:19:59.000 That's how I got here.
00:20:01.000 Yeah.
00:20:01.000 If you get an email asking for your bank account information, it's not me.
00:20:05.000 No.
00:20:06.000 And it's probably not Anna Ferris or Amy Poehler or Tim Dillon or any of those other people. 1.00
00:20:11.000 It's all bullshit. 1.00
00:20:12.000 There's scumbags out there, unfortunately. 1.00
00:20:12.000 No. 1.00
00:20:15.000 If you say you have some elk meat you'll share, that might be real.
00:20:18.000 Nope.
00:20:19.000 Oh.
00:20:19.000 I share with friends and family.
00:20:21.000 That's it.
00:20:22.000 I'm not giving it out to weirdos.
00:20:24.000 But you're bringing some bear meat. 1.00
00:20:24.000 I agree. 1.00
00:20:26.000 And dude, you're, I said you're in trouble.
00:20:26.000 I know.
00:20:28.000 I know.
00:20:29.000 We got, you got a lot of notes.
00:20:30.000 We got notes. 0.99
00:20:31.000 I got, I got shit we're going to discuss today. 0.99
00:20:33.000 Like I had a scientist on yesterday. 0.99
00:20:33.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:20:35.000 He had less notes.
00:20:36.000 Less, I know.
00:20:37.000 I'm, I'm ready.
00:20:38.000 Well, we've had some.
00:20:40.000 First of all, before we go any further, what's going on with your tooth?
00:20:43.000 Why you got a gold tooth?
00:20:44.000 I love it.
00:20:45.000 Yeah.
00:20:45.000 It's, uh, well, it was, it's kind of a joke, but I've been like for years obsessed with like perfect teeth.
00:20:53.000 Right. 0.99
00:20:54.000 And that's like Adam Greenshoe's always busting your balls. 1.00
00:20:56.000 And, you know, I did like the, The white strips and all this other shit. 0.99
00:21:01.000 And like, I always cared about what would just probably care too much. 0.97
00:21:04.000 So now I don't care what I look like.
00:21:08.000 But what changed?
00:21:10.000 I don't know.
00:21:11.000 I've just been playing the game too long.
00:21:14.000 Now it's just like, I'm just done.
00:21:16.000 And the game's not over, unfortunately.
00:21:18.000 Even though I'm saying I don't want to play anymore, the game still goes on.
00:21:21.000 So it's like, I'm still part of it.
00:21:24.000 But anyway, I was getting this.
00:21:26.000 Okay, long story short.
00:21:29.000 I had, I broke this in high school.
00:21:31.000 So, I had a fake tooth since high school.
00:21:33.000 And yeah, this is like a long story kissing this girl, basketball hit me back in the head, broke the tooth. 0.90
00:21:39.000 Anyway, you broke the teeth on her teeth? 0.99
00:21:41.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:21:41.000 So, she had pieces of teeth in her lip. 1.00
00:21:44.000 Oh, that's crazy. 0.63
00:21:45.000 Yeah.
00:21:46.000 It was Jack Devereux did that.
00:21:46.000 Yeah.
00:21:48.000 But anyway, we, so I got it fixed, got a few different iterations of it, finally found one that looked good.
00:21:55.000 I hadn't been in the dentist in forever because I just hate going.
00:21:55.000 Well, I go in there.
00:21:59.000 And they said, oh, you got a cavity under that.
00:22:03.000 Whatever composite is what it was called, and I'm like, okay, cool.
00:22:06.000 So we got to take it off, fix the cavity, then you get a whole nother one.
00:22:10.000 And I'm like, whatever.
00:22:12.000 Um, so I go back in there, next neck deployment, they take it off, no cavity, but now we just have this like whittled down regular tooth, just like a post of a tooth.
00:22:22.000 So, because they removed the cavity because they or there was no cavity, there was no cavity.
00:22:27.000 Jesus Christ, they thought on the x ray there was, so they had the anyway, the cap or the composites gone, so they said, Well, you need to go and Match the color of your teeth for your new fake tooth in Springfield, swing by this Springfield, whatever they do there for dentistry.
00:22:46.000 So I go in there and they said, the girl there goes, Hey, my husband, Nate, makes some really cool gold teeth.
00:22:51.000 Do you want a gold one?
00:22:51.000 He does a really good job.
00:22:53.000 And I was like, Wait.
00:22:55.000 And so she's like, We'll do a white one too, but a gold one might just be fun.
00:22:59.000 And then I'm like, Yeah, it'd be fun.
00:23:01.000 So I told Trace, I'm just going to do it just a day or two.
00:23:05.000 So, this has been months now.
00:23:06.000 You're going to keep it?
00:23:08.000 I kind of like it.
00:23:08.000 I don't know.
00:23:09.000 I kind of like it too.
00:23:10.000 I kind of like it.
00:23:10.000 It's like everybody, you know, everybody's got regular teeth.
00:23:14.000 Nobody's got gold teeth or something like that.
00:23:16.000 Not anymore.
00:23:17.000 It was a thing back in the day.
00:23:18.000 Remember, Mike Tyson had a gold tooth for a while. 0.97
00:23:19.000 Well, this is like my savings account because I figure that I'm going to lose everything because I'm such a fuck up, but I'll still have this. 0.99
00:23:26.000 You can pull that sucker out and you can buy a cheeseburger. 0.99
00:23:28.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:23:29.000 If I get in a bind, right?
00:23:30.000 It's like, hey, well, I got this.
00:23:32.000 I have one crown.
00:23:33.000 I have one fake tooth back here.
00:23:35.000 I cracked one of my molars.
00:23:37.000 I had a root canal and then it, like, so then they had to put like a crown on it and then it cracked.
00:23:44.000 Yeah.
00:23:45.000 And so now I got to get another one because I got a little piece of it missing.
00:23:48.000 I think I'm going to get a gold one.
00:23:50.000 Nice.
00:23:50.000 Get a gold one right here.
00:23:51.000 Do it.
00:23:51.000 Dude.
00:23:52.000 I'm gonna.
00:23:52.000 Now you inspired me.
00:23:55.000 Also, it's in the back, so you won't see it all the time until I give you a big cheese.
00:23:59.000 Yeah.
00:24:00.000 Well, I'm gonna get it.
00:24:01.000 I'm copying you.
00:24:03.000 When you're cracking up, you always do a big smile.
00:24:05.000 So that'll when people see it, that'll be fun.
00:24:05.000 Yeah.
00:24:08.000 Fortunately, I laugh a lot.
00:24:09.000 I live a happy life.
00:24:09.000 I know.
00:24:10.000 Yeah, you do.
00:24:12.000 You're crushing it lately.
00:24:14.000 Oh, just keep your foot on the gas.
00:24:16.000 Same old stuff, right?
00:24:17.000 Just keep your foot on the gas.
00:24:17.000 I can't believe I look at your guest, and it's just like nonstop, dude.
00:24:21.000 It's like, It's people see like all your success.
00:24:24.000 You'd think most people would be like, Okay, I'm good.
00:24:27.000 I'll put your foot off the gas.
00:24:29.000 No.
00:24:29.000 You don't.
00:24:30.000 You keep, I mean, you work your ass off.
00:24:32.000 Well, you very rarely get an opportunity in life to do anything like what I can do.
00:24:38.000 And very few human beings get this opportunity.
00:24:41.000 And I feel insanely fortunate and also very responsible.
00:24:47.000 Like, I'm responsible for this whole thing.
00:24:49.000 I have to keep it rolling.
00:24:50.000 I know people are addicted to it, they love it.
00:24:52.000 They want the variety.
00:24:54.000 They want scientists.
00:24:55.000 They want guys like you.
00:24:56.000 They want athletes and fighters. 1.00
00:24:57.000 They want all this shit. 0.99
00:24:58.000 They want to hear all these different people talk, all these different perspectives. 1.00
00:25:02.000 And it's a huge obligation, you know.
00:25:05.000 And I feel like I'm connected to all these people.
00:25:07.000 I know I don't talk to them all the time.
00:25:08.000 I don't know what to say, but I feel it.
00:25:10.000 I know it.
00:25:10.000 And I'm dedicated.
00:25:12.000 So I just keep my foot on the gas.
00:25:15.000 I never say, Oh, I can't believe I have to do this.
00:25:18.000 Oh, I can't believe I have to show up.
00:25:19.000 I just, yeah.
00:25:20.000 I always try to reset every day and go, God, I'm so lucky.
00:25:24.000 It's so fortunate.
00:25:25.000 And then, you know, when you have that opportunity, I think it's a terrible tragedy, a travesty to not capitalize on it, to not like make the most out of it.
00:25:35.000 Cause I know that it's like very few human beings in the world.
00:25:40.000 Well, I mean, how many people have ever had the number one podcast?
00:25:45.000 It's always gone like back and forth.
00:25:47.000 I've had it for like six years now.
00:25:49.000 Yeah.
00:25:49.000 Six or seven, might be seven years now.
00:25:52.000 And it's like, I'm not, I'm not.
00:25:55.000 Keeping my foot off the gas.
00:25:56.000 I'm going to do exactly what I'm doing.
00:25:57.000 I'm going to do it my best. 1.00
00:25:58.000 I'm going to keep doing it until the fucking wheels fall off. 0.99
00:26:01.000 That's like people have said, like with bow hunting and stuff, like if you, you know, you work your ass off to get this place where you're respected, right? 0.99
00:26:11.000 And then there's going to be people that want your position. 0.99
00:26:14.000 And like with your attitude, my attitude too is like, fucking come get it. 0.99
00:26:18.000 Yeah, come get it. 1.00
00:26:19.000 Come try to take it.
00:26:20.000 Because I'm working my ass off still.
00:26:22.000 We were hanging out somewhere and you said one of the coldest things to this dude. 0.99
00:26:27.000 This dude was, we were all just fucking around. 0.78
00:26:29.000 I really even forget who it was because it didn't matter. 0.95
00:26:32.000 And he said, Yeah, and after that, I'm going to challenge you to a race. 0.92
00:26:35.000 And you go, Good luck with that.
00:26:37.000 It was still so cold.
00:26:39.000 You go, Yeah.
00:26:41.000 You didn't even remotely take it seriously. 1.00
00:26:44.000 It was like a five year old saying they're going to kick my ass. 1.00
00:26:48.000 Like, okay, good luck with that. 1.00
00:26:50.000 Yeah, I mean, you get confident when it's something you do.
00:26:54.000 Yeah, further down the line than anybody.
00:26:56.000 Yeah, and so if you're going to take my spot.
00:26:59.000 Right.
00:27:01.000 I mean, it's been a grind, dude.
00:27:03.000 It's 40 years. 1.00
00:27:04.000 Yeah, the whole taking the spot thing is so stupid because everybody's on their own little journey. 0.96
00:27:08.000 And you could look at it in terms of, I'm going to take that guy's spot, and maybe that's your motivation, and that's cool and all that, but there's a negative attached to that motivation. 0.99
00:27:19.000 If you don't have an actual personal beef with someone and you hate them just because they're in a position that you wish you were, you're wasting energy.
00:27:26.000 I know this sounds like very hippie, but it's true.
00:27:29.000 Like, that energy instead. 0.90
00:27:32.000 Should be celebrating that there's people like that out in the world that do inspire you and are out there pushing themselves to like extreme limits and just excelling at whatever it is, whether it's fucking playing guitar or doing stand up comedy.
00:27:48.000 You should look at those people like, wow, what are they doing that I can do to make myself more successful or better?
00:27:56.000 Or where can I get to a point?
00:27:58.000 How can I get to a point where I'm like them?
00:28:01.000 But most people don't do that. 1.00
00:28:03.000 Most people are like, fuck that guy. 1.00
00:28:04.000 That guy fucking sucks. 1.00
00:28:06.000 And fuck it, he's a pussy. 1.00
00:28:06.000 This sucks. 1.00
00:28:08.000 And he's a this. 1.00
00:28:09.000 And he's using steroids. 0.99
00:28:10.000 And he's fucking lying about how many miles he runs. 0.99
00:28:14.000 There's always going to be people like that. 0.99
00:28:16.000 And I'm telling my message to the haters.
00:28:19.000 I was a hater.
00:28:20.000 When I was a kid, I was 100% a hater.
00:28:23.000 100%. 1.00
00:28:24.000 Like all the other people, like when I was fighting, everybody else was a pussy. 1.00
00:28:28.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:28:28.000 They were all pussies. 1.00
00:28:29.000 Unless they weren't in my weight division. 1.00
00:28:31.000 If they weren't in my weight division, then I could celebrate them. 1.00
00:28:33.000 But everybody in my weight division was a pussy. 1.00
00:28:34.000 That guy's, I'm going to fuck that guy up. 1.00
00:28:36.000 He's got nothing. 0.99
00:28:37.000 I could never celebrate people.
00:28:39.000 Even like national champions, people with the right, I couldn't celebrate them.
00:28:42.000 Right.
00:28:43.000 It's a waste.
00:28:43.000 It's a waste of energy.
00:28:44.000 Yeah.
00:28:45.000 And you get more energy out of looking at what they do well.
00:28:49.000 And analyzing it and being inspired by it.
00:28:52.000 It's a hard struggle because your ego wants you to compare yourself to them and find flaws in them. 1.00
00:28:58.000 You know, fuck that guy, fuck this, fuck that. 1.00
00:29:00.000 It's a waste of energy. 1.00
00:29:02.000 You have to be selfish with your energy.
00:29:04.000 Your energy is very critical.
00:29:06.000 It's everything in life.
00:29:08.000 Everything you do in life is dependent upon you having energy. 1.00
00:29:10.000 And for you to waste your energy in some stupid ego driven direction just because you're too weak to recognize, like, oh, This guy can kick my ass. 1.00
00:29:21.000 Oh, this guy could shoot a bow further than me. 1.00
00:29:24.000 Oh, this guy runs way farther than I can run.
00:29:27.000 Oh, this guy's way better at playing guitar than me. 0.99
00:29:29.000 What the fuck can I do to get where he's at? 0.88
00:29:32.000 You gotta just, that's a trap because not only does it take away energy, it takes away progress. 0.98
00:29:32.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:29:41.000 It takes away energy from you investing in you being better in the future.
00:29:46.000 Right.
00:29:46.000 It's bad all around.
00:29:48.000 There's no good to it at all.
00:29:48.000 Yeah.
00:29:50.000 No, I agree with that.
00:29:52.000 And it's like that energy is a resource that we have to protect.
00:29:56.000 I think that when you talk about, like, you talk about all the outliers that you have this conversation with or sit across the table from you.
00:30:03.000 And I think your attitude and how you look at things, like in that lens, that makes people want to come up.
00:30:11.000 Like you said, you listed all these people and people want to hear what they have to say.
00:30:14.000 People want to hear what they have to say to you because you have a way of drawing out more information in a different way because your attitude is so pure.
00:30:23.000 I think, like, Even if you didn't believe what you said, it would still, if you just said, like, I want to be positive, but your questions were all negative, like in tone or like confrontational in tone, people wouldn't want to be on here like they want to be on here now.
00:30:39.000 You being positive and looking at things like, how can I get better?
00:30:41.000 How can I grow?
00:30:42.000 How can we all learn and get better from this?
00:30:47.000 That's the lens that you put the information that comes out through these microphones out into the world, which means people are attracted to you.
00:30:55.000 People are attracted to the guests you have.
00:30:56.000 People are attracted to the show.
00:30:58.000 And So, yeah, that energy, even if we don't admit it, we're attracted to it.
00:31:04.000 You know what I mean?
00:31:05.000 You seek it out.
00:31:06.000 And I know when I'm, I like to hear people paint a picture of something that gives me hope. 0.95
00:31:14.000 I don't want to hear about how fucked up everything is all the time. 0.89
00:31:19.000 I want hope. 0.97
00:31:20.000 How can I have hope?
00:31:21.000 Because hope gives me purpose.
00:31:23.000 I'm like, okay, I can do this.
00:31:25.000 I can get to work and this will pay off.
00:31:29.000 So, I think it's more complicated.
00:31:33.000 Than we think, but there's a reason why you're number one, have been number one, and it's your attitude.
00:31:38.000 And it's how you speak to people.
00:31:41.000 It's also, I got in really early, right?
00:31:43.000 So, I got in at like 2009, and there was hardly anybody doing it back then.
00:31:49.000 Yeah.
00:31:49.000 So, you could also, I wasn't as famous back then.
00:31:52.000 So, you could do it for a long time before anybody noticed you were doing it.
00:31:57.000 So, you could get good at it.
00:31:57.000 Right.
00:31:58.000 So, you could hone your craft.
00:31:59.000 Right.
00:32:00.000 You didn't have a bunch of comments that you had to sift through.
00:32:04.000 You didn't have to, you just did it.
00:32:05.000 If you started now, maybe you wouldn't be number one.
00:32:08.000 No, I wouldn't be.
00:32:09.000 Because there's so many podcasts.
00:32:09.000 You know what I mean?
00:32:12.000 I mean, how many podcasts are there now?
00:32:13.000 A lot.
00:32:14.000 Yeah.
00:32:14.000 Like, what's the number?
00:32:17.000 10 million, 5 million.
00:32:17.000 I'm going to check those like seven or eight million.
00:32:20.000 It probably keeps growing every week.
00:32:21.000 So, because everybody thinks they can do it, because everybody can talk.
00:32:24.000 Well, and the people starting now, they might be you down the road.
00:32:30.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.
00:32:31.000 There might be some incredible conversationalists that they'll be them.
00:32:36.000 They'll be a different thing than me, but they'll be amazing at it.
00:32:39.000 But you had, because you had this insight or you saw Tom Green or whoever it was that, like, oh, maybe I could do that.
00:32:46.000 You started this process of this decade of honing your craft.
00:32:50.000 To where it is now, and now you've been on top for six, seven years, right?
00:32:54.000 And it's just because of all those reps that you did, it's no different than anything we always talk about.
00:32:59.000 Everything is reps.
00:32:59.000 It's everything.
00:33:00.000 Yeah, everything is reps.
00:33:01.000 It's just like you want to get good at something, fail, keep doing it.
00:33:05.000 Archery is reps, pool is reps, martial arts are reps.
00:33:05.000 Fail.
00:33:09.000 It's all reps, it's all experience, and it's all like being super focused on what you're trying to do, whatever it is.
00:33:15.000 Yeah, I think, like, I even think of, you know, I love Sean Ryan, and he has an incredible podcast, but I get.
00:33:24.000 I get why this is happening.
00:33:26.000 He's pretty down, kind of on a lot right now, just with government, with Israel, with Epstein, with all the, which is by design almost.
00:33:37.000 They want us to be hopeless.
00:33:39.000 And I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, but they do want us hopeless because we can be controlled.
00:33:44.000 But Sean, his podcast lately has taken more, I don't want to say dark because it's more real, but it's like it's darker.
00:33:53.000 So I just think that attracts.
00:33:56.000 Less people in a different type of person than yours.
00:33:59.000 You have every reason to be dark about things, and you are sometimes, but that's not the theme of you.
00:34:05.000 Well, I think these, it's like, first of all, people that aren't comedians, they're very, they're limited in what they can talk about and the way they can talk about things.
00:34:13.000 You know, being a comedian is, there's a little bit of a safety net.
00:34:16.000 A little freedom. 0.99
00:34:17.000 You get always like, yeah, what the fuck is going on? 0.99
00:34:17.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:34:18.000 It's a joke. 0.99
00:34:19.000 We're fucking around. 0.99
00:34:19.000 I'm a comedian. 0.99
00:34:20.000 You get a little, you can write it off a little bit.
00:34:23.000 It's also, there's, that's real in terms of like, Another layer of conversation. 0.99
00:34:30.000 Like, there's a layer of conversation that is commonly known as talking shit. 0.99
00:34:36.000 And talking shit is a thing that you do where you're with your boys and you say things that you don't really mean because they're funny. 0.99
00:34:44.000 And you make each other laugh. 1.00
00:34:45.000 You talk about how many dicks you sucked last night. 1.00
00:34:47.000 You know, why is your mouth so sore? 1.00
00:34:49.000 You know, like, you fuck around, you say things, you're silly. 1.00
00:34:53.000 You know, you talk about, oh, you know, it's hard doing all this meth. 1.00
00:34:56.000 You know, you don't.
00:34:57.000 You're not really doing meth.
00:34:58.000 Right. 0.99
00:34:59.000 You're not really having gay sex. 1.00
00:35:01.000 You're fucking around. 1.00
00:35:02.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:35:03.000 And when you can't fuck around, there's a whole realm of the conversation that's missing. 0.99
00:35:08.000 Yeah, for sure. 0.99
00:35:09.000 And there's a whole like, like, get out of jail pass.
00:35:13.000 Like, let's have fun.
00:35:14.000 Let's loosen up a little here.
00:35:15.000 Well, and then you can't loosen up.
00:35:17.000 Right.
00:35:17.000 You're serious.
00:35:18.000 And then where does the conversation go?
00:35:19.000 Back to the serious part, which changes it.
00:35:22.000 It's also the serious stuff is what gets engagement.
00:35:25.000 Yeah.
00:35:25.000 And that's a little bit of a trap where if you only focus on the bad of the world, and it's not saying you shouldn't.
00:35:30.000 Ignore the bad of the world.
00:35:31.000 You certainly shouldn't.
00:35:32.000 But if you only focus on the bad of the world, it's kind of a trap.
00:35:37.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:35:37.000 Because it'll fuck your head up, too. 0.99
00:35:39.000 You're just swimming in negativity all the time. 1.00
00:35:41.000 That's what I see, Sean.
00:35:42.000 That's a feeling I've got with Sean lately.
00:35:45.000 Whereas with the differences with you, there's a reset.
00:35:48.000 There's always this reset back to good.
00:35:51.000 The message is good.
00:35:52.000 Yeah, I think.
00:35:53.000 And I don't think you're.
00:35:55.000 I don't think you.
00:35:56.000 That's not by design.
00:35:57.000 That's just who you are.
00:35:58.000 Yeah, no, it's not by design.
00:36:00.000 It's just that's how I think.
00:36:02.000 It's like you can only dwell on negativity so much.
00:36:02.000 Yeah.
00:36:05.000 Most of your day is not negative, in fact.
00:36:07.000 Yeah.
00:36:08.000 There's things that you need to be aware of and you need to prepare for them.
00:36:13.000 The problem is, no, it's not.
00:36:15.000 But our voices are oftentimes negative.
00:36:18.000 So it's easy.
00:36:21.000 If you get in that trap where you're listening to negative and you're thinking negative, it's a lot of negative, dude.
00:36:27.000 So it's like knowing that I can go down a negative rabbit hole pretty easy, I try to avoid wading in that.
00:36:36.000 Well, sometimes it's like you just get fed up. 0.98
00:36:37.000 You're like, where the fuck are these Epstein files? 1.00
00:36:40.000 Who the fuck is this? 0.98
00:36:41.000 Why is this redacted? 1.00
00:36:43.000 Who the fuck killed JFK? 0.99
00:36:45.000 Come out with it. 1.00
00:36:47.000 Who fucking killed Charlie Kirk for real? 0.99
00:36:49.000 Like, what is that? 0.99
00:36:49.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:36:50.000 Why is that fucking story so clouded in mystery? 1.00
00:36:53.000 And why did they pave over the fucking ground right after the shooting? 1.00
00:36:57.000 What the fuck is going on there? 1.00
00:36:59.000 See, now you're making me in a bad mood. 1.00
00:37:00.000 That's, but that, it's easy to do.
00:37:02.000 It's easy to do.
00:37:03.000 It's easy to get locked up in there.
00:37:04.000 Do you see my notes?
00:37:05.000 Look at my two on the very top.
00:37:07.000 Stay positive, be nice.
00:37:07.000 What does it say?
00:37:10.000 And what does that other one say?
00:37:11.000 You have terrible handwriting.
00:37:12.000 Be positive.
00:37:13.000 Oh, be nice, be positive.
00:37:14.000 Well, your handwriting's terrible.
00:37:16.000 You should be a doctor. 0.74
00:37:16.000 It is. 0.74
00:37:18.000 But no, I have to remind myself, like, Because if you start mentioning those things that you just did, dude, I will fucking lose my shit because I'm so pissed. 0.99
00:37:28.000 I know. 0.99
00:37:30.000 And you should be.
00:37:31.000 And we're all pissed.
00:37:33.000 We all thought that all that stuff was going to be released right after the election. 0.97
00:37:38.000 We're going to drain the swamp and find all the pedophiles.
00:37:42.000 Well, the first term was more like that.
00:37:45.000 That's what gave me hope for this term.
00:37:47.000 The first term, there was some draining the swamp going on, I felt.
00:37:51.000 Then we had the Biden disaster, and now the second term has been I don't even know what this is.
00:37:55.000 I don't even know what it is. 0.79
00:37:57.000 Well, it would have been a whole lot different, first of all, if we didn't bomb Iran. 1.00
00:38:03.000 I feel like we bombed them the first time, we were good. 1.00
00:38:05.000 The second time was like, even the first time, I was like, what the fuck are we doing? 0.98
00:38:10.000 Yeah. 0.95
00:38:11.000 And then when they were saying, like, this is it, the escalation's over, we're going to work this out, like, oh, phew.
00:38:17.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:38:17.000 And the second time when we bombed them, I was like, oh, fucking great. 0.98
00:38:21.000 Now, and most people don't want it. 0.98
00:38:24.000 That's the real problem.
00:38:25.000 Most people in the country don't want it. 0.97
00:38:26.000 Now, look, I'm no fucking foreign policy expert. 0.93
00:38:29.000 I don't know what's going on over there, but I do know that all the people I know that really support Israel above everything else, they're fucking super happy about it. 0.89
00:38:38.000 And I'm like, but all the people I know that are like America first, or people that are like no new wars, that really thought that we're going to change things, and this is all just for money. 0.99
00:38:46.000 We're not going to sacrifice soldiers for fucking money. 0.93
00:38:49.000 Those people are all upset. 0.99
00:38:51.000 I don't know really what's going on, though.
00:38:53.000 That's the problem. 0.96
00:38:54.000 And I really wish I understood Iranian politics more and the Iranian military structure, because it seems like That's super fucking complicated. 0.56
00:39:05.000 Like, they've been preparing to be attacked like this forever.
00:39:09.000 And so they have like all these layers of control.
00:39:12.000 Like, when this guy gets taken out, new guys are like ready to fill their spot.
00:39:16.000 And then when we're negotiating with a new guy, Israel kills him. 1.00
00:39:20.000 It's like, the fuck is going on? 0.99
00:39:23.000 And then what happened yesterday? 0.99
00:39:25.000 They captured like 20 oil tankers.
00:39:28.000 I didn't even see that.
00:39:28.000 Oh, did they?
00:39:29.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:39:29.000 There was some, I don't know, it might be bullshit. 1.00
00:39:33.000 I just read it out on the toilet in one of the rare weak moments where I traveled to X. 0.98
00:39:39.000 Yeah, it's uh, boy, I've been so healthy lately. 0.90
00:39:41.000 Last few months, just staying off of fucking Instagram, really staying off of Twitter, just not reading anything. 0.96
00:39:47.000 Yeah, they're not anything, but Instagram started funneling me schizophrenics. 0.99
00:39:52.000 Oh, I don't know how I followed one schizophrenic.
00:39:55.000 My name is Dolores, I am the real granddaughter of JFK.
00:40:00.000 The gold that's in the basement is all mine. 1.00
00:40:02.000 They're trying to stuff shit inside my vagina. 1.00
00:40:05.000 They wake me up in the middle of the night, like crazy people, yeah, not just one, but like a whole series of them. 1.00
00:40:12.000 And I started getting those a couple of weeks ago.
00:40:14.000 And again, I might spend like 10, 15 minutes, but it's all schizophrenic people.
00:40:18.000 I'm like, I got to get off of this. 0.98
00:40:21.000 There's no reason.
00:40:22.000 It's interesting.
00:40:23.000 It's crazy.
00:40:24.000 That's what gets you hooked. 1.00
00:40:25.000 I got this one lady. 1.00
00:40:27.000 She was a hooker and she's a crackhead. 1.00
00:40:30.000 And she thinks everyone's a man. 1.00
00:40:31.000 So she'll show photos of all these different people. 1.00
00:40:34.000 That's a fucking man. 1.00
00:40:37.000 She's just fucking out to lunch. 1.00
00:40:39.000 One guy thinks he's the rightful president of the United States and he wears like this dirty old suit. 1.00
00:40:44.000 And you can look in his eyes like he's crazy. 0.99
00:40:46.000 Out there.
00:40:47.000 The dude's gone.
00:40:48.000 He lives in a completely different dimension than we do.
00:40:50.000 And he's on Instagram.
00:40:53.000 I start watching, like, sometimes street fights.
00:40:56.000 Oh, I watch a lot of those.
00:40:57.000 There's a lot of those out there, or the pranks, or the jokes, or pets.
00:41:04.000 It's like pets are cool.
00:41:05.000 And then it's just like, but they, it's just a trap.
00:41:09.000 It just keeps you there.
00:41:10.000 And then an hour's gone.
00:41:11.000 And you're like, what did I do for an hour?
00:41:13.000 It's just terrible for you.
00:41:14.000 But since I've been really good about it, it's just so much healthier.
00:41:17.000 When I take like full days, like, Days off, I feel so much better.
00:41:22.000 And I'm like, remember when we were in Hawaii?
00:41:24.000 We went to Hawaii a few years back and we went bow hunting for Axis Deer on Lanai.
00:41:29.000 And I broke my phone.
00:41:31.000 I don't know if you remember this, but my phone just started calling people.
00:41:34.000 I'd be like, look at this.
00:41:34.000 This is crazy.
00:41:35.000 I'd hang up and start calling a new person. 0.87
00:41:37.000 Hang up.
00:41:37.000 So I had to get a new phone.
00:41:38.000 It took like three days.
00:41:40.000 And it was like three of the happiest days of my life.
00:41:43.000 And I'm like, oh, I should just get rid of my phone.
00:41:46.000 I was thinking that, but I was like, oh, I can't wait until my phone gets here.
00:41:50.000 Well, there's stuff.
00:41:51.000 Where it's really handy is taking pictures of cool stuff.
00:41:53.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:54.000 And capturing those memories.
00:41:56.000 Yeah.
00:41:57.000 And if you have a question.
00:41:58.000 I love it for, because I've always had a question about something.
00:41:58.000 Yeah.
00:42:02.000 I love that Siri now, you could just press Siri and ask it a question.
00:42:06.000 Like, how many minutes are in a month?
00:42:08.000 And it'll just tell you.
00:42:09.000 Like, right, like, ooh.
00:42:09.000 Yeah.
00:42:10.000 Like, you'd be driving on the car, you have a question, just press a button and it gives you the answer.
00:42:14.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:42:14.000 It's fucking nuts. 0.99
00:42:15.000 How many times did you have a question and you're just like, I'll probably never figure that out? 0.99
00:42:18.000 Exactly.
00:42:19.000 But now, no question goes unanswered.
00:42:21.000 Literally instantaneous.
00:42:22.000 Yeah.
00:42:23.000 You know, and, you know, I'll use perplexity all throughout the day to just ask you questions because I'm just driving around or I'm sitting at home and I'm like, I wonder how that happened.
00:42:33.000 And just now you know, like instantaneously.
00:42:36.000 Yeah.
00:42:36.000 But the dealing with all the people stuff, that's where I checked out.
00:42:42.000 I'm like, I'm not interested in that.
00:42:44.000 I don't like it. 0.99
00:42:45.000 It's like if you get a bowl of soup and there's little pieces of meat, but most of the soup is shit, all right. 0.99
00:42:54.000 And that's what social media is like. 0.99
00:42:56.000 It's like I get some meat out of it here and there.
00:42:59.000 I get some interesting stories about science and some new discovery from the James Webb telescope. 0.98
00:43:04.000 Like, whoa, this is fucking cool.
00:43:05.000 And it'll send me down a nice rabbit hole where I'm like studying things and getting excited about things. 1.00
00:43:10.000 And then I'll just deal with some fucking kooks and crazy people and shitheads and grifters and people that are mad that people are white and people that are mad that people are black. 1.00
00:43:20.000 And like, oh, fucking Christ. 1.00
00:43:23.000 It's too much. 0.99
00:43:23.000 It's exhausting. 0.99
00:43:25.000 Yeah.
00:43:25.000 It's exhausting.
00:43:26.000 It's just eating soup with shit in it. 1.00
00:43:26.000 It's just. 1.00
00:43:30.000 It's just like it's not worth it.
00:43:30.000 Yeah.
00:43:32.000 Speaking of which, you brought in some of that bear.
00:43:32.000 Yeah.
00:43:33.000 Grab some of that, son.
00:43:36.000 And so, a lot of people are of the opinion that black bear is not an edible meat, and that is incorrect.
00:43:45.000 I've got a grizzly cougar here full of all sorts of grizzlies.
00:43:47.000 People can't hear you unless you're on that microphone.
00:43:50.000 Okay.
00:43:52.000 So, also, this.
00:43:52.000 Give me some.
00:43:54.000 No one can hear that either.
00:43:55.000 You've got to get to the microphone.
00:43:56.000 Also, this.
00:43:57.000 Put that thing down and have a seat.
00:43:59.000 Oh, there we go.
00:44:02.000 So, do you know who Casey Brooks is?
00:44:04.000 So, he killed a world record elk.
00:44:04.000 I've heard the name.
00:44:06.000 That's right.
00:44:07.000 That giant.
00:44:07.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:44:08.000 Well, that thing is crazy.
00:44:09.000 So he does this, it's like super hot stuff.
00:44:14.000 Oh, here's what it's called.
00:44:15.000 You need to know about Chilean, whatever.
00:44:15.000 What is it?
00:44:19.000 See, there's everything you know, need to know about.
00:44:22.000 Well, it's all worn out.
00:44:23.000 I know.
00:44:24.000 It's maybe on the other pig, but mighty Chilean chili.
00:44:28.000 Yeah.
00:44:28.000 Okay.
00:44:29.000 So it's a type of chili.
00:44:30.000 You put that on like when you're cooking steaks.
00:44:30.000 Yeah.
00:44:32.000 Where's that knife, Jamie?
00:44:33.000 Yeah.
00:44:33.000 Here's one.
00:44:35.000 Thank you.
00:44:35.000 Look at that.
00:44:36.000 Oh, sweet. 1.00
00:44:37.000 Oh, look at that fucking elk, man. 1.00
00:44:39.000 That thing's giant. 1.00
00:44:39.000 Oh, my God. 1.00
00:44:40.000 Nuts.
00:44:41.000 That thing is literally nuts.
00:44:43.000 What was the score on that?
00:44:44.000 It was like 386 or something?
00:44:47.000 No, 486.
00:44:49.000 Or no, 486.
00:44:50.000 Yeah.
00:44:50.000 Yeah.
00:44:51.000 Like almost.
00:44:52.000 386?
00:44:52.000 Close to 500.
00:44:54.000 Yeah.
00:44:55.000 Whoa, this smells strong.
00:44:56.000 Does it?
00:44:57.000 Oh my god.
00:44:58.000 Yeah.
00:44:58.000 So these are the chili.
00:44:59.000 Oh, so this is a.
00:45:01.000 Yeah, he said you don't need much.
00:45:03.000 It says.
00:45:04.000 What did it say?
00:45:04.000 480?
00:45:05.000 It says sprinkle this shit on everything. 1.00
00:45:07.000 Okay, yeah. 1.00
00:45:09.000 This is cool.
00:45:11.000 Yeah, so I brought.
00:45:12.000 And also.
00:45:13.000 Ooh!
00:45:14.000 Do you know his son?
00:45:15.000 His son is a really good elk caller.
00:45:17.000 I mean, I don't know.
00:45:18.000 I know he makes calls.
00:45:19.000 Yeah, we don't usually mess around with that.
00:45:22.000 I learned how to do these just last year.
00:45:24.000 His son is Bo Brooks.
00:45:25.000 I learned how to make a female elk caller. 0.99
00:45:27.000 Because I had a little one that I blow on. 1.00
00:45:29.000 Yeah.
00:45:29.000 So I never learned how to use a reed.
00:45:30.000 Yeah, the mouth reed.
00:45:31.000 I definitely don't know how to make an elk set with a tube. 0.99
00:45:35.000 I'm fucking terrible. 0.99
00:45:36.000 Well, let me see that knife real quick. 0.99
00:45:37.000 My, yeah.
00:45:38.000 This is the old pack out Skinner from Montana Knife.
00:45:41.000 But here's the good stuff right here.
00:45:44.000 So we got some of this.
00:45:47.000 Tell me what you think of this.
00:45:49.000 I've had it the last time you brought it.
00:45:50.000 It's from the same.
00:45:52.000 No, this is from.
00:45:53.000 Fletcher Company?
00:45:54.000 White's up in Portland, and this is Ronnie.
00:45:57.000 Ronnie's the man, dude.
00:45:58.000 Portland, Oregon has a good wild game.
00:46:00.000 Yeah.
00:46:01.000 I think it's more like Gresham.
00:46:02.000 Processor?
00:46:03.000 But it's so good.
00:46:05.000 Oh, that is good.
00:46:06.000 Tell me what you think of that.
00:46:10.000 That's my job.
00:46:11.000 Yeah, thank you, Ronnie.
00:46:12.000 And then this is.
00:46:13.000 No trichinosis, right?
00:46:15.000 Is trichinosis free?
00:46:15.000 How?
00:46:17.000 Then this is.
00:46:18.000 I mean, have you ever tested yourself for trichinosis?
00:46:20.000 See if you have it, you might already have it.
00:46:21.000 Some bear jerky, too.
00:46:22.000 You might have it and ignored it.
00:46:24.000 So, the jerky is so good, and then also, like, this says whites on it right here Whites Country Meats. 0.66
00:46:31.000 So, we got sausage.
00:46:32.000 Oh, you made breakfast sausage?
00:46:33.000 Yeah, so good.
00:46:34.000 Nice. 0.96
00:46:35.000 And then we got some rendered bear fat right here.
00:46:38.000 Oh, wow.
00:46:39.000 So, you can cook with that.
00:46:39.000 Brought you that.
00:46:40.000 Oh, it's dark.
00:46:41.000 Yeah.
00:46:43.000 Why is it so dark?
00:46:44.000 I don't know.
00:46:45.000 Um, that's crazy.
00:46:49.000 Yeah.
00:46:50.000 Clay Newcomb gave me something.
00:46:51.000 Did he?
00:46:52.000 Yeah.
00:46:52.000 Okay.
00:46:52.000 Have you ever used it?
00:46:53.000 Yeah, I cooked steaks with it.
00:46:55.000 Okay.
00:46:55.000 It's great for searing steaks, you know, just like even beef tallow.
00:46:59.000 But it gives it a different flavor.
00:46:59.000 Yeah.
00:47:00.000 For sure, definitely.
00:47:01.000 So he did it.
00:47:02.000 It's like, and also, like the bear in the spring, their fat is a little different.
00:47:07.000 So it just reacts differently.
00:47:09.000 For making the pepperoni and rendering the fat, it just reacts a little differently because they've just come out of hibernation up there.
00:47:16.000 This is one of the big bear I just killed.
00:47:18.000 And yeah, so it's just perfect timing for.
00:47:21.000 I guess rendering fat and making sausage.
00:47:24.000 I was watching those videos that Jen was making from Bear Camp.
00:47:27.000 Yeah. 0.60
00:47:28.000 Where she smoked that bear for like 24 hours. 1.00
00:47:31.000 Yeah.
00:47:32.000 So good.
00:47:32.000 God, it looked insane.
00:47:33.000 It looked like.
00:47:34.000 It looked so good.
00:47:35.000 They're like, she's like a gourmet chef now with bear.
00:47:37.000 Yeah.
00:47:37.000 And then they had the meat church guy up there this last week.
00:47:40.000 Yeah.
00:47:40.000 And so they were like, you know, bear meat, when you put a whole back ham on the Traeger, so she let it soak, marinate for four days, right?
00:47:52.000 And I saw people saying, oh, if you did shoe leather for four days, it'd be good.
00:47:55.000 Whatever.
00:47:56.000 I'm just telling you what it was.
00:47:57.000 Four days, then 20 hours of a slow cook on the Traeger.
00:48:01.000 Best meat you've ever had.
00:48:03.000 It's like incredible.
00:48:05.000 That's bear.
00:48:06.000 And you know, there's like people talk about the settlers back in the day, they would eat bear and just kill deer for hides to make clothing because bear was superior meat.
00:48:16.000 So people have fallen into this trap of like believing that bear meat isn't good and it's amazing.
00:48:22.000 Well, it's because of Yogi.
00:48:24.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:48:24.000 Yogi fucked us. 1.00
00:48:25.000 Probably. 1.00
00:48:26.000 Yeah.
00:48:26.000 Yogi and the one that tells you not to start fires.
00:48:30.000 Who's that guy?
00:48:31.000 Smokey.
00:48:31.000 Smokey.
00:48:32.000 Smokey the bear, Yogi. 1.00
00:48:34.000 They fucked us. 1.00
00:48:34.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:48:35.000 Yeah, they did.
00:48:36.000 And Disney. 1.00
00:48:37.000 Disney fucked us. 0.99
00:48:39.000 You know, if it wasn't for those anthropomorphizations of animals where they turned them into sweet, you know, beautiful creatures that talk to you, we would have a completely different idea of animals. 0.99
00:48:50.000 And a much more realistic idea of animals.
00:48:50.000 Oh, yeah.
00:48:52.000 For sure.
00:48:52.000 Which I think most hunters have.
00:48:54.000 You love them, you respect them, but they all have to be managed.
00:48:58.000 I sent Whitney Cummings a video that they got in Santa Monica the other day of a mountain lion in someone's backyard. 1.00
00:49:05.000 Big fucker. 0.99
00:49:06.000 Just laying in the grass in this dude's backyard in Santa Monica, man. 1.00
00:49:13.000 I mean, I don't know if you know more anymore, but I can't eat too much.
00:49:16.000 People get annoyed.
00:49:17.000 Oh, yeah, that's true.
00:49:18.000 It was good, though.
00:49:19.000 That's a jalapeno cheddar.
00:49:21.000 How does it taste?
00:49:22.000 Can you taste it?
00:49:23.000 The first one I had was jalapeno cheddar?
00:49:24.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:49:24.000 It was fucking great. 0.99
00:49:26.000 It was really good. 0.99
00:49:26.000 So good, yeah. 0.99
00:49:28.000 And I know what people are saying.
00:49:29.000 Oh, you can make anything.
00:49:30.000 Look at that. 0.67
00:49:31.000 That's the cat in the backyard. 1.00
00:49:32.000 Isn't that fucking nuts, man? 1.00
00:49:32.000 Oh, man. 1.00
00:49:33.000 Look at his eyes.
00:49:34.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:49:35.000 Fuck you, man. 1.00
00:49:37.000 Fuck you. 1.00
00:49:38.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:49:39.000 It's uh, meanwhile, they build a stupid bridge for them, and it's uh, way over budget. 1.00
00:49:43.000 It's over a hundred million dollars now for the stupid fucking bridge, so they can cross. 1.00
00:49:47.000 We have to make sure that the monsters can get across the highway safety. 1.00
00:49:51.000 Trust me, I am of a completely different opinion. 0.99
00:49:53.000 I say, put one of those fucking big ass grills on your car, like I have on my Land Cruiser, and let's hope we get a few of them, yeah, so they don't kill people's dogs. 0.99
00:50:01.000 Look, it was right there in the middle. 0.99
00:50:03.000 It says knocked it on 14th.
00:50:03.000 Yes, 14th.
00:50:04.000 That is bananas.
00:50:06.000 Look where it is.
00:50:08.000 Look how dense.
00:50:09.000 Look how dense the housing is there.
00:50:11.000 There's a mountain lion right there.
00:50:13.000 And they think a mountain lion is going to go find this bridge.
00:50:16.000 Well, they probably will eventually find the bridge. 1.00
00:50:20.000 But there's a bunch of retards that'll still make their way across the highway. 1.00
00:50:23.000 And they're supposed to get hit. 1.00
00:50:24.000 That's nature.
00:50:25.000 Yeah.
00:50:26.000 Let's figure it out.
00:50:27.000 Yeah.
00:50:27.000 Figure it out.
00:50:28.000 Or die. 1.00
00:50:29.000 Yeah, figure it out or die. 1.00
00:50:30.000 There's too many of them.
00:50:32.000 They're so unrealistic about their mountain lion numbers.
00:50:35.000 Yeah.
00:50:35.000 There's way too many of them.
00:50:37.000 They're all over California because they don't manage them.
00:50:40.000 That's what we talked about last time.
00:50:42.000 And it's like.
00:50:44.000 I just wonder what is, you know, what's the goal?
00:50:47.000 Because now, you know, I wore the shirt today because now public land is again back in the crosshairs.
00:50:52.000 I don't know if you saw that.
00:50:54.000 Yeah, what is going on?
00:50:55.000 This Mike Lee guy.
00:50:56.000 Yeah, that same guy. 1.00
00:50:57.000 Same fucking guy. 1.00
00:50:59.000 He's trying to like. 1.00
00:51:00.000 That's the Utah guy, right?
00:51:01.000 The Utah guy.
00:51:03.000 So right now, it's like there's this bill that was going to be introduced.
00:51:08.000 It was like talking about wildfires, essentially.
00:51:12.000 But it's like, it's.
00:51:14.000 What he's done is he's tied in this public land piece to it.
00:51:18.000 Like they always do, there's always these other provisions tied in with all these bills, right?
00:51:23.000 And you don't really know what you're agreeing to or what you're not.
00:51:27.000 But he put in this roadless area section because there are 45 million acres of roadless area that he wants access to.
00:51:38.000 Basically, they're not saying this, they're saying for some other reason.
00:51:42.000 I think, oh, here's what they said We have so many acres of roadless area that to fight wildfires, we need roads.
00:51:49.000 Okay.
00:51:51.000 They don't care about fighting wildfires, they care about resource extraction or development, right?
00:51:57.000 Maybe development, but development's a tough sell in a lot of those wilderness areas.
00:52:01.000 But what's not in the house?
00:52:01.000 That's what they tried with this.
00:52:03.000 Remember the affordable housing?
00:52:04.000 Yeah.
00:52:05.000 Like, oh, just the areas.
00:52:06.000 They tried to say that's what it was.
00:52:08.000 That was supposedly affordable housing, which, like, years ago, I went back and talked to Jason Chaffetz.
00:52:14.000 He was a representative there in Utah.
00:52:16.000 And I went back there and spoke to him.
00:52:18.000 And at that time, it was about surplus acreage.
00:52:22.000 So there are 3 million surplus acres nobody's using.
00:52:26.000 Someone told me that has something to do with the Mormon religion, that the Mormon religion has a philosophy about selling land.
00:52:35.000 That's very different than our philosophy.
00:52:37.000 I'm not sure.
00:52:37.000 They might.
00:52:38.000 On public land.
00:52:39.000 Somebody told me that.
00:52:40.000 See if there's any reality to that. 0.99
00:52:44.000 That the Mormons almost have like a mandate to try to sell land. 0.98
00:52:49.000 I don't know if that makes any sense. 0.58
00:52:51.000 This is not my thought.
00:52:53.000 Someone told me this and I was like, wait, what?
00:52:54.000 And I don't think I ever looked it up.
00:52:56.000 Right.
00:52:57.000 I do that too.
00:52:57.000 All the time.
00:52:58.000 I'm like, I need to look that up and I never do.
00:53:00.000 And then I never know anything more.
00:53:02.000 But yeah, so I went back, talked to Jason.
00:53:04.000 At that time it was surplus acreage.
00:53:07.000 Then this time it was.
00:53:08.000 Affordable housing.
00:53:09.000 Now, this time is wildfire fighting, which, if you get into the weeds on fighting wildfires, the National Forest Service already has $10 billion of road work they need to do on roads that are failing right now.
00:53:24.000 So they're saying you're going to add more roads to the $10 billion worth of work that the roads already need maintenance on.
00:53:30.000 Don't think so.
00:53:32.000 What they're going to do is, and then also, if you make roads, the stats say, 85 to 90 percent of fires are started within a half mile of a road.
00:53:44.000 So it's not the wilderness areas that are in danger that we need to figure out how to fight fires back there.
00:53:49.000 There's hardly any fires back there.
00:53:51.000 It's always about the roads we've created that we can't maintain.
00:53:55.000 That's where the fires are starting, right?
00:53:57.000 Right, because it's usually people.
00:53:59.000 It's human caused.
00:54:00.000 90% of the time, it's human.
00:54:01.000 It's lightning.
00:54:02.000 That's only like a small percentage of fires that can't be fought.
00:54:06.000 Here it is.
00:54:06.000 Some Utah politicians who are members of the LDS Mormon church have pushed proposals to sell or transfer.
00:54:13.000 Federal public lands, but this is a political movement, not an official LDS church program, and other Mormon groups openly oppose it.
00:54:21.000 So Utah's see more disinformation, somebody tried to feed me.
00:54:24.000 Yeah.
00:54:25.000 And I kind of helped spread it.
00:54:26.000 Right. 0.98
00:54:27.000 Utah's heavily dominated by federal land.
00:54:29.000 42% of the state is managed by the Bureau of Land Management alone, even more under other federal agencies because so much federal, so much of Utah's federal fights over whether to retain, transfer, or sell some of that land is especially intense there.
00:54:42.000 Yeah, this next part is about Mike Lee, which.
00:54:45.000 Conservative Utah Republicans, such as Senator Mike Lee, have proposed budget or legislative plans that would make millions of acres of Western public land eligible for sale, arguing it would boost housing or local economies. 1.00
00:54:59.000 The housing thing is like, hey, man, fuck you. 0.99
00:55:02.000 You're not putting houses in the mountains. 1.00
00:55:03.000 I don't believe you.
00:55:05.000 I think most likely what you're doing is there's natural gas out there or minerals out there or something.
00:55:10.000 It's a.
00:55:11.000 I mean, they don't care about.
00:55:13.000 First of all, they'd have to build infrastructure out there in the mountains, which, you know, water, power, that's not going to happen.
00:55:19.000 What is this Wyoming thing?
00:55:21.000 Thing.
00:55:21.000 It says that Wyoming case would have been the first time a registered national historic site was sold into private ownership, which is why it drew attention.
00:55:30.000 What are they referring to, though?
00:55:33.000 A national historic site among Oregon Trail could end up in the hands of private owners at the request of members of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter day Saints.
00:55:43.000 Oh, so the church tried to purchase public land.
00:55:47.000 So down to that next one, it says LDS teachings require strong stewardship and explicitly advocate preserving and protecting public lands.
00:55:55.000 Okay.
00:55:56.000 That goes against what he's doing.
00:55:59.000 And I think he's beholden to Trump. 0.99
00:56:01.000 Trump's like his errand boy for this public land thing because Trump doesn't give a fuck about public land. 0.99
00:56:07.000 But his son does. 0.98
00:56:08.000 This is what doesn't make any sense.
00:56:10.000 Donald Trump Jr.
00:56:11.000 Does he listen to anybody?
00:56:13.000 I don't know.
00:56:14.000 I don't think so.
00:56:14.000 He doesn't listen to me about psychedelics.
00:56:16.000 Well, okay.
00:56:17.000 We'll talk to him about this.
00:56:19.000 Is that it again with sneaky roadless rule amendment?
00:56:22.000 Yeah.
00:56:22.000 Well, maybe if I see him this weekend, well, I will see him this weekend, but maybe I'll talk to him about that.
00:56:27.000 But I don't think.
00:56:28.000 There was a sentence in there.
00:56:30.000 That I just saw, it says 99% right here, right in the middle.
00:56:36.000 99% of Americans oppose repealing the Roses rule.
00:56:38.000 Okay.
00:56:39.000 So why they work for us, isn't that right?
00:56:43.000 So the reason why I got to this is because you talked about the mountain lions.
00:56:47.000 It's like, why don't they listen to people like the public?
00:56:52.000 The public would say, yeah, we probably need to hunt mountain lions, keep a manager.
00:56:55.000 I don't think the public of California would.
00:56:58.000 I think I'm opposed to that.
00:57:00.000 I'm opposed to the ballot box. 1.00
00:57:01.000 Biologists.
00:57:02.000 No, no, me too.
00:57:03.000 So they got wolves into Colorado.
00:57:04.000 But I'm just wondering like with this roadless rule, they didn't ask the public anything.
00:57:09.000 Right.
00:57:10.000 And 99% of the public oppose it.
00:57:12.000 Yeah, that's way, I think, I would say way more people oppose that than oppose any kind of a hunting thing.
00:57:18.000 Yeah, I'm good with, okay, so on your point then, I want biologists making the decision on hunting.
00:57:26.000 100%.
00:57:27.000 I don't want politicians making the decision on land use.
00:57:30.000 100%.
00:57:31.000 All right.
00:57:32.000 100%.
00:57:33.000 So, That's all I'm saying.
00:57:35.000 It's like, let's have experts in the field decide these things.
00:57:38.000 It's like, who was the expert in the field who decided the White House needs a ballroom?
00:57:44.000 Me.
00:57:45.000 No.
00:57:45.000 I called in.
00:57:47.000 But it's like, how are these decisions being made?
00:57:49.000 Like this Rodel's rule, this was like a last minute add on that the public did not get a chance to vote on.
00:57:56.000 How is that okay?
00:57:57.000 No, it's not okay. 0.98
00:57:58.000 It's super fucking sneaky. 0.89
00:57:59.000 And I think all of our positions should be like your t shirt. 0.98
00:58:03.000 The Teddy Roosevelt position.
00:58:04.000 Not one acre.
00:58:05.000 We have an amazing system here.
00:58:07.000 We do.
00:58:08.000 The public land system in the United States is completely unique to the rest of the world.
00:58:12.000 It's very different.
00:58:13.000 And the fact that you can go out there and that is your land.
00:58:16.000 If you are a citizen of the United States of America, public land is your land.
00:58:21.000 And you have access to incredible wilderness and beautiful places. 0.93
00:58:25.000 And if you've got the endurance and the ability to go deep in there, you could go to places where there's no fucking people and it's unbelievably pristine wilderness.
00:58:35.000 And it's owned by the entire country, and we got to keep it that way.
00:58:40.000 We can't let that slippery slope get into play. 0.93
00:58:45.000 As soon as they start giving away some of it or selling away some of it, they'll fucking keep going. 0.96
00:58:51.000 Not one acre. 0.94
00:58:52.000 Once you lose something, you don't get it back.
00:58:54.000 Ever.
00:58:55.000 And especially with this public land, like at this time when we all came together, it was outdoorsmen in all regards it was hunting, hiking, fishing, whoever, recreators.
00:59:08.000 Yeah.
00:59:10.000 It's like people who just love and appreciate public lands.
00:59:12.000 We all came together, shot it down, and the public sentiment was vicious, right?
00:59:19.000 And they couldn't ignore it.
00:59:20.000 We need the same thing now because at this time, I know we did so much, everybody came together.
00:59:25.000 But when they do these, they wear us down with these last minute deals and add on these things because it's like, how many things can you keep fighting and fighting and fighting?
00:59:34.000 And you're like, I thought we already got this.
00:59:36.000 Didn't we solve this already?
00:59:37.000 And now it's back. 0.97
00:59:38.000 Well, I think that's one of the reasons why they keep so many fucking balls in the air at the same time is because you can't fight it all. 0.83
00:59:45.000 You know, it's like, do you really care about the Epstein files or do you care about UFO disclosure? 0.95
00:59:49.000 Yeah, I know.
00:59:50.000 The UAPs, we're going to have a big meeting on Monday.
00:59:53.000 We're going to have a big release on Wednesday.
00:59:55.000 So, okay. 0.99
00:59:56.000 So, I think they took, to me, it seems pretty nefarious that they're like, say, oh, we got all these fucking dipshits worried about this roadless rule. 0.99
01:00:04.000 We can distract some of them with aliens. 0.99
01:00:04.000 Okay. 0.99
01:00:06.000 Got an alien stuff.
01:00:07.000 All right.
01:00:08.000 Okay.
01:00:08.000 Oh, we could, we could distract some of them with fighting.
01:00:11.000 We got the White House fight coming up. 0.98
01:00:13.000 That's, and now all of a sudden, now it's way quieter because they've distracted some of these core groups with this other bullshit, right? 0.99
01:00:13.000 Okay. 0.99
01:00:21.000 And it's the bread and circus thing.
01:00:23.000 And like, I kind of agree with Bryce Mitchell who said this that it's not for the White House to be putting on, Sporting events.
01:00:30.000 That's not, we hire the government to run our country, not entertain us.
01:00:35.000 True.
01:00:36.000 Yeah.
01:00:36.000 No, I, look, I don't like it because I think they should be fighting indoors always.
01:00:42.000 I think world championship fights at the highest level should be fought in a controlled environment.
01:00:47.000 That said, it's going to be sick.
01:00:50.000 It's going to be, it's going to be, I'm going to watch.
01:00:52.000 I have two, like people think, oh, Rogan's negative again.
01:00:55.000 Nope, I'm not negative, but I'm not positive either.
01:00:58.000 I don't, if it was me, if I was running the UFC, I'm not.
01:01:03.000 I would never run the UFC.
01:01:04.000 But if I was running the UFC, I would have never wanted to do it.
01:01:07.000 Yeah.
01:01:08.000 I would have said, we can't do it.
01:01:09.000 They have to be in a controlled environment.
01:01:10.000 We can't have a world championship fight.
01:01:12.000 We can't have someone win or lose because they're outside and it's muggy.
01:01:15.000 Yeah.
01:01:16.000 That doesn't make any sense to me.
01:01:17.000 It's going to affect the grappling.
01:01:19.000 It's going to be like hot oil wrestling. 0.98
01:01:20.000 Everyone's going to be sweaty as fuck. 0.99
01:01:21.000 Oh, yeah. 0.96
01:01:22.000 It's going to be completely different than, and also your endurance is going to be less.
01:01:26.000 No submission is probably going to happen.
01:01:28.000 Well, maybe, but also you can get under a neck way quicker.
01:01:32.000 Oh, right. 0.94
01:01:33.000 Slide your arm through there.
01:01:34.000 Yeah. 0.71
01:01:35.000 Cinch up a rear naked choke with someone sweating. 0.71
01:01:35.000 You could. 0.71
01:01:38.000 You get it right under their chin.
01:01:40.000 Yeah, that'd be tough.
01:01:41.000 It's like, it slides in there.
01:01:43.000 But most grapplers would not prefer that.
01:01:46.000 Most grapplers would prefer an air conditioned arena like normal. 0.95
01:01:49.000 It should be fucking 72 degrees, just like it always is. 0.93
01:01:53.000 You know, it should be air conditioned like it always is. 0.96
01:01:55.000 But even the controlling the hands, because you know, like if you're top or bottom, like the big part is like the wrist control.
01:02:01.000 Yeah.
01:02:02.000 Like if you're sweaty, that's tough.
01:02:05.000 Back in the old days, dudes used to lie down in a bathtub filled with baby oil.
01:02:05.000 I mean, it changes.
01:02:10.000 Yeah.
01:02:11.000 And then they would wash it off.
01:02:12.000 And so then they would, you know, get warmed up.
01:02:15.000 And then when they would start sweating, the baby oil would come out of their pores.
01:02:18.000 Because it's like when you soak in baby oil for hours, I'm not accusing any individuals doing this, but I know for a fact it happened.
01:02:27.000 And guys would be completely greased up.
01:02:29.000 And you could wipe them down with a towel, it wouldn't matter. 0.99
01:02:31.000 I mean, the grease is everywhere, it's in their fucking pores. 0.99
01:02:34.000 And as soon as they start sweating, you try to get a hold of them, it's like trying to hold on to a fucking salmon in the middle of the water. 0.99
01:02:40.000 They just slip right out of your fingers. 0.98
01:02:41.000 Well, that happens too if you eat McDonald's all the time.
01:02:44.000 Just kind of grease out your pores.
01:02:46.000 So they should try that.
01:02:47.000 Maybe that'll work.
01:02:48.000 I think that'll affect your performance more.
01:02:51.000 But the sweat is going to be a big issue.
01:02:54.000 The outside, the bugs, that's going to be a big issue.
01:02:56.000 The thunderstorms.
01:02:57.000 Oh, yeah.
01:02:58.000 It's going to rain.
01:02:59.000 Another forecast of six o'clock.
01:03:01.000 They're starting around two o'clock rain, three o'clock thunderstorms, seven o'clock rain.
01:03:06.000 It looks great.
01:03:07.000 Oh, by eight o'clock, it's only showers. 1.00
01:03:09.000 Don't be a pussy. 1.00
01:03:10.000 Just showers. 1.00
01:03:11.000 Yeah, maybe they'll cancel it.
01:03:13.000 Look, I think if they canceled it and moved it indoors, it'd be better for everybody.
01:03:16.000 I don't like it.
01:03:17.000 I think the idea was like they want the octagon, the White House behind it.
01:03:21.000 Yeah, for image and everything like that, it's going to be dope. 0.96
01:03:24.000 The card is sick. 1.00
01:03:25.000 It's a fucking amazing card. 0.99
01:03:27.000 The card, I mean, it's only seven fights, and all of them are bangers. 0.99
01:03:30.000 From the opening one with Steve Garcia and Diego Lopez, bam, right off the gate.
01:03:35.000 It's like Bowden Nickel and Kyle Dawkins, bam, right off the gate. 1.00
01:03:39.000 I mean, it's going to be a sick fucking card. 1.00
01:03:41.000 The card's amazing. 1.00
01:03:43.000 That does look incredible.
01:03:44.000 That's the lightning catcher that they put over there.
01:03:49.000 Yeah, it's going to be nuts.
01:03:51.000 It's going to be nuts if it happens.
01:03:53.000 But if it rains like crazy, you know.
01:03:56.000 But I mean, everybody will love it if it rains. 1.00
01:03:58.000 All the people who hate it, yeah, rain on those mega fucks. 1.00
01:04:02.000 You're ruining our country, man. 1.00
01:04:02.000 Oh, God. 1.00
01:04:05.000 I know.
01:04:05.000 It's a very divided time.
01:04:08.000 Oh, it's nuts.
01:04:09.000 Yeah.
01:04:10.000 But like I said, my concern is for the athletes.
01:04:16.000 A fighter's career is very short, a loss is devastating.
01:04:20.000 And to not have perfect conditions to fight in, I think it's crazy.
01:04:23.000 Yeah.
01:04:24.000 But it's also going to be sick.
01:04:26.000 It's like being there is going to be nuts.
01:04:28.000 And maybe it's worth it.
01:04:30.000 We'll find out.
01:04:30.000 I don't know.
01:04:31.000 Well, you got to hand it to Dana for going big like he always does.
01:04:35.000 He always does.
01:04:36.000 I mean, you know, they always does.
01:04:38.000 He was at the Sphere in Vegas, right?
01:04:41.000 It's like, wasn't that out of the box, but it was amazing.
01:04:45.000 Yeah, that was sick.
01:04:46.000 But that was a one time only thing.
01:04:48.000 That was so much money.
01:04:49.000 But this is a one time only thing, supposedly, too.
01:04:51.000 But apparently, Trump doesn't want to take the octagon down.
01:04:54.000 He wants to leave it up.
01:04:55.000 Really?
01:04:57.000 I don't know, man.
01:05:01.000 I think it would be great.
01:05:02.000 Have guys come in and train at the White House for a couple weeks.
01:05:06.000 That'd be the next gimmick.
01:05:08.000 I don't know.
01:05:08.000 I mean, why not?
01:05:09.000 Fuck it. 1.00
01:05:09.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:05:10.000 The whole thing's chaos anyway.
01:05:12.000 It's a crazy time.
01:05:13.000 I mean, what? 0.99
01:05:13.000 Biden could have a giant LBGT flag in front of the White House and have trans people pulling their breasts out. 0.99
01:05:18.000 Remember that? 0.98
01:05:20.000 They had a big pride day, a big pride flag in front of the White House.
01:05:23.000 I'll take this over that.
01:05:25.000 It's like. 0.96
01:05:25.000 All of it is silly. 0.96
01:05:26.000 Yeah. 0.91
01:05:27.000 It's also, that should have nothing to do with the White House.
01:05:29.000 This should have nothing to do with the White House.
01:05:31.000 Right.
01:05:31.000 But, you know, and then there's a lawsuit right now.
01:05:33.000 I saw that.
01:05:35.000 People are trying to sue to keep the UFC out the way.
01:05:37.000 They'll probably lose.
01:05:38.000 Yeah.
01:05:39.000 I don't, I'm not a lawyer.
01:05:40.000 But I would imagine they're not going to win.
01:05:40.000 I don't know.
01:05:42.000 I'm a huge fighting fan, UFC fan.
01:05:46.000 You know, Dana White is like an icon.
01:05:48.000 I love all the fighters.
01:05:50.000 I just love everything about it.
01:05:51.000 It's, I just, you know, I kind of agree with Bryce Mitchell's take on it, which you can get, In trouble with the green with him because he has a lot of takes.
01:06:02.000 But on this one, I kind of get it.
01:06:04.000 And yeah, I mean, I don't blame the fighters at all for jumping to this opportunity.
01:06:08.000 I have to do it.
01:06:08.000 No.
01:06:09.000 The whole world's going to watch.
01:06:11.000 It's going to be probably the most watched sporting event, maybe in history.
01:06:17.000 I mean, it's on Paramount, so it'll be on CBS as well, right?
01:06:22.000 I know.
01:06:23.000 Is it on CBS?
01:06:24.000 Yes.
01:06:25.000 So it's on CBS as well.
01:06:27.000 So it'll be available to everybody.
01:06:28.000 And then all the haters are going to watch it too. 1.00
01:06:30.000 They're going to want to talk shit. 1.00
01:06:30.000 Oh, for sure. 1.00
01:06:32.000 So, it'll probably be covered on CNN what a disaster it was.
01:06:35.000 They've already talked a lot about how I'm not into it.
01:06:39.000 But I have to be honest about what I'm into and what I'm not into.
01:06:43.000 I can't just agree with something if I don't agree with it.
01:06:46.000 I'll be respectful.
01:06:49.000 I'm obviously a huge fan of the UFC, and it's always an honor to work for them, and I love it.
01:06:55.000 But I don't like it.
01:06:57.000 But I'll still, when I'm there, I'm like, oh, this is sick.
01:07:00.000 And maybe after itself, I'm like, they were right. 0.98
01:07:02.000 Or maybe it'll be like, oh, it fucking rained. 1.00
01:07:04.000 It was what a shit show. 1.00
01:07:06.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:07:06.000 It was lightning that canceled the fights. 1.00
01:07:08.000 It was a huge disaster for CBS.
01:07:09.000 It's live sports.
01:07:11.000 It's like you never know.
01:07:12.000 I mean, if they pull the entire audience out and just have the guys fight in the cage under the canopy, now I'm in.
01:07:19.000 Yeah, that's like Apex style.
01:07:20.000 Now I like it.
01:07:21.000 Now I like it.
01:07:22.000 No crowd, just us, just me, DC, and Anak.
01:07:25.000 Ooh.
01:07:26.000 That'd be pretty fun.
01:07:27.000 Now I like it.
01:07:28.000 Now I like it.
01:07:29.000 And, you know, we're protected by the rain, but everybody else isn't, so they all have to leave. 1.00
01:07:33.000 Fuck yeah. 0.99
01:07:34.000 Because I think it's going to be also a lot of like, look at me. 1.00
01:07:37.000 People are going to dress up nice for it, and like, because they know they're going to be on television.
01:07:41.000 Oh, yeah.
01:07:42.000 And then it's, you know, it's.
01:07:43.000 I get it, but it's really, for me, it's about the fights.
01:07:47.000 There's gigantic fights on that card.
01:07:49.000 The Justin Gaichi, Ilya Taporia fight, I am very interested in that fight.
01:07:54.000 I'm very interested in that fight.
01:07:55.000 I really wish it was like at the T Mobile or Madison Square Garden or whatever, but who cares?
01:08:01.000 That's a fight I have a lot of questions about.
01:08:04.000 I need to see that fight happen.
01:08:05.000 I mean, Justin's quite a bit bigger, but Ilya is so skilled.
01:08:09.000 Bro, he is.
01:08:10.000 I watched a whole, I watched his entire career last night.
01:08:15.000 So, there was a.
01:08:16.000 The UFC put out a video about Ilya saying, Is Ilya Taporia the GOAT?
01:08:21.000 And it goes from his first fight in the UFC to his last victory.
01:08:30.000 And you watch every single fight of his career.
01:08:32.000 And you watch him get better over time.
01:08:35.000 And, you know, it gets deeper into his career.
01:08:38.000 And then you see his last three fights and you're like, Good Lord.
01:08:41.000 Yeah.
01:08:42.000 He was awesome when he first entered the UFC, but he just kept getting better.
01:08:47.000 Better. 0.99
01:08:47.000 So it was the use of Salal fights, the first fight that goes to a decision, you know, and then you watch the progression. 0.99
01:08:57.000 He starts KOing people. 0.95
01:08:59.000 His last three KOs over the biggest stars.
01:09:01.000 They're some of the greatest of all time.
01:09:03.000 Max.
01:09:04.000 Yeah.
01:09:05.000 Who?
01:09:06.000 Charles Olivera.
01:09:07.000 Yeah.
01:09:07.000 Charles Olivera, one of the greatest of all times.
01:09:10.000 Max Holloway, one of the greatest of all times.
01:09:12.000 And then Alexander Volkanovsky, the greatest featherweight of all time.
01:09:16.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:09:16.000 Like fucking crazy, man. 1.00
01:09:18.000 Knocked him out. 1.00
01:09:19.000 Knocked all three of them out.
01:09:20.000 That's one of the greatest resumes of all time.
01:09:20.000 How?
01:09:22.000 CBS won't air USC White House event.
01:09:25.000 Viewers would need Paramount Plus to watch.
01:09:27.000 What happened?
01:09:28.000 Did they back out of it?
01:09:32.000 This is news to me.
01:09:33.000 I just saw that.
01:09:34.000 They would not televise it.
01:09:34.000 Oh.
01:09:36.000 That means you.
01:09:37.000 I wonder if Paramount White decided, cited the plan to tell America's story during the show as the reason CBS would not be involved.
01:09:47.000 What?
01:09:48.000 The plan to tell America's story.
01:09:51.000 That doesn't even make sense.
01:09:51.000 What?
01:09:52.000 What does that mean?
01:09:53.000 We don't want to talk about America's story on CBS?
01:09:56.000 No, because there's only X number of fights and it starts from the first one, White said.
01:10:00.000 We start at the beginning of time and, like the Mexican Independence Day fight, we're going to have the story of America from the first fight to the last.
01:10:08.000 So, no, they'll all be on Paramount. 0.69
01:10:10.000 So, it's going to start out with European settlers coming over and giving everyone smallpox. 0.99
01:10:15.000 And then you're going to see all the Indians die. 0.96
01:10:17.000 And then we're going to go, oh, look at all these buffalo because there's no one there to kill them. 0.99
01:10:20.000 And then we're going to see people come across on wagon trains and kill each other. 0.86
01:10:24.000 It should be fun.
01:10:25.000 It's going to be a good story.
01:10:25.000 Yeah.
01:10:27.000 It's going to be a very accurate story of how the United States started. 0.55
01:10:31.000 It'll start from back when we fucked up Mexico in like, what was that, 1861 to get Texas? 0.51
01:10:37.000 No, what year did they? 0.79
01:10:39.000 No, it was like 1821, wasn't it? 0.68
01:10:41.000 Like that Mexico owned Texas. 0.96
01:10:46.000 We'll start from the beginning. 0.53
01:10:47.000 We'll go all the way to buying Alaska for like 50 bucks.
01:10:53.000 Yeah. 0.52
01:10:54.000 People love it.
01:10:55.000 Why wouldn't you want to?
01:10:56.000 It'd be good.
01:10:56.000 It'll be good.
01:10:57.000 It'll be great.
01:10:58.000 Yeah, it's, I don't know, it's going to be a spectacle for sure.
01:11:03.000 I'll be tuning in.
01:11:04.000 Yeah.
01:11:05.000 But I'll be there.
01:11:06.000 Yeah.
01:11:07.000 It's going to be, you're at the White House all the time now.
01:11:09.000 I've been there a couple times.
01:11:10.000 Yeah, it's weird.
01:11:12.000 It's very weird.
01:11:13.000 It's also very weird because, as much as people hate Trump and hate his decisions and hate what he's doing and hate how he talks, my experiences with him personally have always been fun, unfortunately.
01:11:26.000 Yeah.
01:11:27.000 Unfortunately for everybody else.
01:11:28.000 Like, you know, if he likes you and you're on his good side, he's a fun guy to be around. 0.99
01:11:34.000 He says a lot of fun shit. 1.00
01:11:36.000 The fucking man loves America. 1.00
01:11:38.000 He genuinely does. 1.00
01:11:40.000 He really does.
01:11:41.000 Like, he wants to make the White House look better.
01:11:44.000 He wants to build this ballroom because he has good intentions in terms of America. 0.94
01:11:50.000 It's just, there is not a single fucking person that's ever taken the job of the President of the United States that's loved by everybody. 0.96
01:11:57.000 Yeah. 0.96
01:11:58.000 But his, the issues that he's having right now is a lot of the stuff that is going on in this country is contrary to what people voted for.
01:12:07.000 And that's what people are upset about the war, specifically.
01:12:11.000 That I don't, you know, we voted for.
01:12:15.000 Protecting the border.
01:12:17.000 Uh huh.
01:12:18.000 And they did that.
01:12:19.000 Yeah.
01:12:20.000 It's, uh, or American manufacturing, um, protecting America's interests, like with trade, with, uh, just protecting people's jobs.
01:12:30.000 So we have a way to work and provide for our family.
01:12:34.000 America first. 0.71
01:12:35.000 That was what that sounded good to me.
01:12:37.000 And it feels like this isn't any of that. 0.99
01:12:40.000 Like, I, it feels like even his administration at first, I was just like, Oh, fuck, these are some good. 0.99
01:12:47.000 But it feels like if you go against him in any way, you're fucking gone. 0.99
01:12:52.000 Well, it's that for sure. 0.98
01:12:54.000 And then it's also, you know, the amount of political pressure.
01:12:58.000 You know, you have to make deals, right?
01:13:00.000 So you got the pharmaceutical drug companies that are trying to squeeze this in there.
01:13:04.000 And then you got the oil companies trying to squeeze that.
01:13:07.000 And the military is trying to squeeze this.
01:13:09.000 And there's a lot of compromises that have to be made.
01:13:11.000 And that's where things get dark.
01:13:12.000 Yeah.
01:13:13.000 Because there's people that come in with these ideas that we're going to fix this and clean that.
01:13:17.000 Like, I've had long conversations with RFK, and that guy's in struggle all day.
01:13:23.000 It's a battle all day.
01:13:25.000 It's dealing with all these pressures, and look, they've made a lot of headway.
01:13:29.000 They've made a lot of headway with peptides, they made a lot of headway with eliminating some of these unnecessary food dyes and all these different things that we've been subject to, but they lost with glyphosate.
01:13:44.000 That was a big one, man.
01:13:45.000 Glyphosate was a big one.
01:13:47.000 I've got a guy coming on who's an expert in it that's going to talk about it soon, and it It is the people that are gaslighting you to say it's not an issue.
01:13:55.000 We don't really know how much of the health problems that a lot of people have who consume glyphosate ridden products have.
01:14:04.000 We don't know how much it's affecting you.
01:14:06.000 What is it taking away from your immune system? 0.88
01:14:09.000 What is it taking away from how much is your body processing this fucking toxic herbicide that's in your system versus, I mean, how much of that is contributing to people's health problems? 0.81
01:14:21.000 There's a lot of people that think that that's what a lot of this. 0.98
01:14:23.000 Gluten allergy shit is that people are just reacting to bromate and pesticides and herbicides. 0.96
01:14:30.000 But what's that stat with Iowa being the center for glyphosate basically with all the agriculture there? 0.99
01:14:37.000 And then that's like the hotbed for cancer.
01:14:39.000 Yeah.
01:14:39.000 I mean, you don't have to look very far to see that connection.
01:14:42.000 No, you don't.
01:14:43.000 No, well, you know, that was also back in the day when people talk about the polio epidemic. 0.99
01:14:49.000 You can't talk about the polio epidemic without also talking about spraying of DDT all over the fucking country. 0.79
01:14:56.000 Because DDT poisoning has the exact same reaction, the body has the exact same reaction as polo, as paralytic polo, polio, polio, polio, the disease. 0.97
01:15:08.000 There's this woman who wrote a great book on it, Suzanne Humphreys.
01:15:14.000 It's called Dissolving Illusions.
01:15:17.000 And it's all about that and all about, like, first of all, they were spraying it behind cars in streets where children were playing.
01:15:27.000 And people were getting polio.
01:15:28.000 I remember seeing kids, like, running through it.
01:15:31.000 But it wasn't just people that were getting polio.
01:15:33.000 This is part of the problem with the narrative that it's polio.
01:15:36.000 Animals were getting polio.
01:15:37.000 Like, animals were getting.
01:15:39.000 Polio, but they don't get polio.
01:15:41.000 It doesn't spread to animals. 0.99
01:15:42.000 But horses and fucking cows were getting paralyzed. 1.00
01:15:45.000 They were getting the same symptoms because it's fucking DDT poisoning. 1.00
01:15:49.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99
01:15:50.000 And here's the craziest one.
01:15:52.000 What percentage of polio is asymptomatic?
01:15:54.000 I mean, you get it and you have no symptoms.
01:15:56.000 I don't know.
01:15:58.000 95 to 99%.
01:15:59.000 Really?
01:16:00.000 Yeah.
01:16:00.000 So it's people have it.
01:16:02.000 It's DDT.
01:16:03.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:16:04.000 It's DDT.
01:16:06.000 I mean, look, it's not saying that some people that are very. 1.00
01:16:09.000 Sick and immune compromised, get polio and get fucked up and die. 0.99
01:16:13.000 Of course, polio is bad. 1.00
01:16:14.000 Thousands of people die every year from the flu.
01:16:16.000 Flu is bad, right?
01:16:17.000 Okay, but you know what else is bad?
01:16:19.000 DDT.
01:16:20.000 You know what else is going on when everybody was going through this whole polio epidemic? 0.99
01:16:24.000 Fucking spraying DDT everywhere. 1.00
01:16:25.000 And most people are ignorant to it. 1.00
01:16:28.000 And you bring it up, they call you a conspiracy theorist, but it's fucking fact. 0.99
01:16:32.000 It's undeniable. 0.98
01:16:33.000 Well, I was like, you know, the controlling the weather.
01:16:38.000 I was like, That's a conspiracy. 0.99
01:16:40.000 But then I started seeing the planes like laying the fucking clouds out. 0.97
01:16:45.000 Have you seen it? 0.99
01:16:46.000 Yes and no.
01:16:47.000 Okay.
01:16:47.000 So I actually did a show on this.
01:16:49.000 You did?
01:16:49.000 Yes.
01:16:50.000 I did not an episode of the podcast.
01:16:52.000 I did an episode of Joe Rogan Questions Everything.
01:16:54.000 Remember that show that I used to do back in the day?
01:16:55.000 Yeah.
01:16:56.000 We did a whole episode on chemtrails.
01:16:59.000 And one of the things we found, first of all, the reason why it looks like that, this is just a fact.
01:17:05.000 The reason why it looks like that is there's condensation in the atmosphere.
01:17:08.000 You have a hot jet engine, it's passing through this cool air.
01:17:12.000 And the hot jet engine and the cool, wet air create clouds.
01:17:16.000 Those clouds are real.
01:17:17.000 It's artificial clouds. 0.99
01:17:19.000 Also, they spray shit in the air. 0.98
01:17:21.000 Two things are happening at the same time. 0.99
01:17:23.000 You see the normal planes, you see the normal jet stream, and you're like, okay, checks out.
01:17:28.000 Then you see the other ones, and it's a different jet stream.
01:17:32.000 Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
01:17:34.000 The condensation in the atmosphere is inconsistent.
01:17:37.000 Just like clouds are inconsistent.
01:17:39.000 We watched them the other day make laps.
01:17:41.000 Yeah, but it might not be the same plane, it might just be a route.
01:17:45.000 You're not watching the entire plane go all the way down land and come back.
01:17:49.000 No, no.
01:17:50.000 But you're watching consistent plane travel patterns.
01:17:53.000 But that's why it looks like that.
01:17:55.000 But it's just days where there's a lot of condensation in the atmosphere.
01:17:58.000 Dude, I'm telling you, listen, those planes, if you're looking at a Southwest flight, they're not spraying. 1.00
01:18:05.000 But some planes spray shit. 0.99
01:18:07.000 And there are some weather modification experiments they do that are completely top secret. 0.99
01:18:13.000 They don't let anybody know about it.
01:18:14.000 They do cloud seeding, they cause floods. 1.00
01:18:17.000 Look at what happened with fucking Dubai. 0.98
01:18:19.000 Right, ever see that Dubai where Lamborghinis are floating down the highway? 0.99
01:18:23.000 Yeah, that is people with the environment.
01:18:27.000 That's what I thought was conspiracy before, which I don't know.
01:18:30.000 No, it's real.
01:18:31.000 Well, Abu Dhabi does it every week, Abu Dhabi makes it rain every week with cloud seeding, and because they're rich, yeah, like it, make it rain, and so there's real weather modification.
01:18:44.000 Now, that's there's cloud seeding, and then there's experimental, like some of the that like Bill Gates was talking about, like spraying.
01:18:51.000 Reflective particles in the atmosphere to block out the sun. 0.98
01:18:54.000 Like, hey, fuckface, who are you to make a decision for the whole world to cool the world? 0.99
01:19:01.000 You didn't even graduate college. 1.00
01:19:03.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00
01:19:05.000 Like, this is crazy. 1.00
01:19:06.000 And also, the unintended consequences of any action that has never been taken before, like cooling off the fucking planet. 1.00
01:19:13.000 What if this dipshit starts the next ice age and everybody fucking dies? 1.00
01:19:17.000 I know. 1.00
01:19:17.000 Right. 1.00
01:19:18.000 I mean, get the fuck out of the air. 0.98
01:19:21.000 Leave us alone. 0.99
01:19:22.000 Stop playing God.
01:19:24.000 You don't know what you're doing.
01:19:25.000 And also, do you have any money invested in any of these projects that are attached to this?
01:19:30.000 This, you know, we talk about all the stuff.
01:19:30.000 For sure.
01:19:34.000 Oh, I didn't want to say this.
01:19:35.000 So, for public land, I want to say this is part of my notes.
01:19:38.000 Call your senators, say you want the roadless rule kept intact.
01:19:42.000 Say we don't want to get rid of the 45 million acres that are going to be protected with the roadless rule.
01:19:49.000 But to call your senators is 202 224 3121.
01:19:55.000 Say you want the roadless rules kept intact.
01:19:59.000 And we have to let our voices heard.
01:20:01.000 Our voice was heard on this not one acre.
01:20:04.000 We won that one.
01:20:05.000 We have to do it again.
01:20:06.000 You have to call your senators and say, And just voice your concerns.
01:20:10.000 It's a slippery slope.
01:20:11.000 You can't let them have any ground.
01:20:12.000 But, like, what I. Here's what this thing was really pissed me off because, as I said, the administration at first, I thought, okay, we got some good pipe hitters in there.
01:20:26.000 It feels like they do what Trump says.
01:20:30.000 If they don't, they're gone.
01:20:31.000 They're like, they're the scapegoat for whatever failed.
01:20:34.000 They're out of there.
01:20:36.000 You can see the writing on the wall.
01:20:37.000 Like, I don't.
01:20:38.000 I was. 1.00
01:20:39.000 I wanted Tulsi to get in there and kick ass because I knew how she felt about the war in Iran and how detrimental that would be. 0.98
01:20:47.000 So I was like, I believed in her. 0.98
01:20:50.000 And now with her husband getting sick, and now she's out of there.
01:20:52.000 But it feels like people are, it's like if you stand up for something, you're gone.
01:20:59.000 And now they got this Mark Wayne Mullen in there who just two days ago for this roadless rule, he unwinded 31 laws that were going to protect.
01:21:10.000 The public land, right?
01:21:12.000 Just 31 laws.
01:21:13.000 He just said, yeah, those aren't going to apply anymore because we need to.
01:21:16.000 They awarded a $1.7 billion contract to build a wall in Texas at Big Bend National Park.
01:21:25.000 $1.7 billion has been awarded and it wasn't even bid to build this wall in Big Bend National Park here.
01:21:33.000 It's like, how?
01:21:35.000 The public doesn't want that. 0.95
01:21:36.000 We don't want to fucking the wall. 0.94
01:21:37.000 What's the wall for? 0.99
01:21:38.000 They're saying for border protection. 0.99
01:21:41.000 And if you look at where the border crossings are, it's not in the middle of the fucking park. 0.97
01:21:47.000 So, what do you think that wall is really for? 0.98
01:21:49.000 I don't know. 0.88
01:21:50.000 Fucking up a national park, one of the most pristine places in Texas. 0.95
01:21:55.000 I don't know what the goal is. 0.95
01:21:57.000 Have you read into it, though?
01:21:58.000 Is there any arguments pro and con that the wall is?
01:22:01.000 I'm sure there is.
01:22:02.000 I'm sure it's for border protection.
01:22:04.000 I mean, maybe Jamie can look it up.
01:22:06.000 Yeah, let's see if there's a.
01:22:07.000 There was no public input on it again.
01:22:10.000 Right.
01:22:11.000 That's a problem.
01:22:12.000 And then the problem is, again, they can come up with reasons why, you know, they have to make some new laws because, well, we got to protect people.
01:22:21.000 Yeah.
01:22:22.000 And that's how the slippery slope begins.
01:22:23.000 It was a COVID, like, you know, safe and effective, protect your communities.
01:22:27.000 It's like, you got to do this for safety.
01:22:29.000 Well, it's the same thing.
01:22:30.000 Trump administration will bypass environmental laws for border project in Big Bend National Park.
01:22:36.000 So, what is, does it say what the argument for it is?
01:22:39.000 According to preliminary federal notice, Latest regulatory waiver will apply to more than 100 miles of the U.S. Mexico border.
01:22:46.000 So it's a border wall.
01:22:48.000 Yeah.
01:22:48.000 From near the Closed Canyon Trail in Big Bend Ranch State Park through the entirety of Big Bend National Park into remote parts of southeastern Brewster County.
01:23:00.000 In the notice, Homeland Security Mark Wayne Mullen wrote the administration is bypassing a wide range of laws to ensure the expeditious construction of barriers and roads along the southern border.
01:23:15.000 While U.S. Customs and Border Protection continues to insist it will not build a 30 foot tall steel border wall in either the state or national park, the agency's current plans call for a mix of vehicle barriers, surveillance technology, and patrol road upgrades in the parks as a part of a project dubbed.
01:23:34.000 Dubbed Big Ben 4.
01:23:36.000 So, this is like not listening to the experts again.
01:23:39.000 Six former superintendents of Big Ben National Park penned a letter to Mullen urging him not to take such a step. 0.99
01:23:43.000 So, again, not listening to the experts, just like the ballot box biology, just doing whatever the fuck they want. 0.86
01:23:50.000 Doesn't matter what the public or the expert thinks they're going to do it. 0.93
01:23:54.000 Award these bids to probably some construction outfit this guy's invested in for $1.7 billion with no bid.
01:24:01.000 It's like, how is this okay?
01:24:05.000 Yeah.
01:24:06.000 It's very, I don't understand it.
01:24:09.000 Is there a lot of crossings in there?
01:24:11.000 That's the thing.
01:24:11.000 No, there's not.
01:24:12.000 They have where all the crossings happen.
01:24:14.000 There's like this tiniest percentage in that park.
01:24:18.000 Because it seems like it's probably a very remote area of Mexico that it connects to as well, right?
01:24:22.000 So it'd be very difficult to get through that way.
01:24:25.000 And also, if you're going to get through that way, like, good Lord, you're going into tough country. 0.99
01:24:32.000 Yeah, and that's good elk country down there.
01:24:35.000 I know people who hunt.
01:24:36.000 West Texas.
01:24:36.000 Uh huh.
01:24:37.000 Good bulls.
01:24:39.000 Yeah.
01:24:39.000 Yeah.
01:24:40.000 So it's like, I just, I don't know.
01:24:43.000 It's, so if you look at the millions of Americans who treasure Big Bend, you know, they don't want construction down there.
01:24:49.000 And especially if we voted on it, fine.
01:24:52.000 If there was a reason, fine.
01:24:53.000 But it was never voted on.
01:24:55.000 It says the horrific plans are an affront to the millions of Americans who treasure Big Bend.
01:24:55.000 Yeah.
01:25:00.000 Lakin Jordal, an advocate with the Center for Biological Diversity, said in a statement politicians who've never set foot here are signing a death warrant for this wild.
01:25:10.000 And beautiful place.
01:25:12.000 Yep.
01:25:12.000 Yeah.
01:25:13.000 And that's, you know, I've heard somebody, you know, pretty close with Trump tell me that he's never walked on dirt before.
01:25:19.000 Trump has never walked on dirt.
01:25:20.000 He plays golf.
01:25:22.000 Has to have walked on dirt.
01:25:23.000 Grass, baby.
01:25:24.000 That's very manly.
01:25:25.000 Grass and sand.
01:25:26.000 So, not on his course. 0.98
01:25:28.000 But the point is, it's like somebody who doesn't appreciate public land, they don't give a fuck about this. 0.99
01:25:34.000 No, they don't give a fuck and they're not going to see it and they never would see it. 0.99
01:25:38.000 But there is a border walk on up there too, though. 0.99
01:25:42.000 There as well?
01:25:43.000 Same spot.
01:25:44.000 Same spot.
01:25:44.000 Look, they have to protect the border, but if there's not a lot of crossings there and all of a sudden you want to spend all this money to build a steel border, like who's getting the contract?
01:25:44.000 Yeah.
01:25:53.000 Yeah.
01:25:54.000 And just to award that with no bid, it's just not that's not.
01:25:58.000 I was a public buyer.
01:26:00.000 That's not how it works.
01:26:01.000 You're spending public money, you can't just spend public money without a bid.
01:26:06.000 Right. 0.95
01:26:07.000 I mean, but they bypass all this shit that has the checks and balance in place to ensure that we're making good decisions with public money, and they bypass it all. 0.98
01:26:16.000 And then you know who suffers here? 0.99
01:26:18.000 It's the people who don't have, like, some people, they go to the park for mental health.
01:26:23.000 They want to go camp.
01:26:24.000 They want, it's like they might not have two nickels to their name, but they're appreciating nature.
01:26:29.000 That's why public land is so important because that gives purpose to people like me who's less like, I got to get out of this shithole city and go recharge, right?
01:26:39.000 So for people who don't appreciate that or care about that, that's wasted land.
01:26:45.000 It's like, We could have a shopping mall, we could have investors doing this, we could have make this work because right now they would say that well, not everybody can take advantage of this because you have to hike, you have to do these things.
01:26:57.000 So, we want to make it more accessible so more people can enjoy it.
01:27:01.000 No.
01:27:02.000 Yeah.
01:27:03.000 That's not how it works. 0.99
01:27:04.000 You're going to fuck it up. 1.00
01:27:05.000 You can't just have helicopter landing plaids all over the fucking woods. 1.00
01:27:05.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:27:11.000 There's your contract.
01:27:12.000 Spike in border wall spending goes mostly to two firms with GOP White House ties.
01:27:18.000 Construction contracts, including $2.6 billion awarded this week, are being awarded at a historic scale through a streamlined process that could put Trump on track to realize his vision for a border wall.
01:27:33.000 Yeah.
01:27:33.000 See that streamlined process?
01:27:35.000 That was bypassing 31 laws.
01:27:38.000 And so, what's there now?
01:27:40.000 Like, what is the border now between Mexico and the United States in that area?
01:27:45.000 Is it just land?
01:27:46.000 Like, you just walk right across?
01:27:48.000 Yeah, it's probably the river.
01:27:51.000 What is the border?
01:27:51.000 Like, what is it?
01:27:52.000 Can we find that out, Jamie?
01:27:54.000 Does it say?
01:27:54.000 Oh, it doesn't say, but I'll look.
01:27:56.000 Okay, let's just look.
01:27:57.000 Go up and look at the map.
01:27:59.000 Okay, yeah.
01:27:59.000 Let's see what the map looks like.
01:28:08.000 Okay, let's see.
01:28:14.000 So that's where it is?
01:28:17.000 So is that the river that blocks it?
01:28:20.000 Well, the river blocks the whole bottom of the border, technically.
01:28:22.000 Right.
01:28:22.000 There's certain parts of the river.
01:28:23.000 I mean, look at that.
01:28:24.000 It's not that hard to get across that river.
01:28:26.000 Look at that one.
01:28:27.000 Well, I mean, people aren't going to go there to cross.
01:28:30.000 That's crazy.
01:28:31.000 Look how beautiful that is.
01:28:32.000 It's amazing.
01:28:33.000 God, that's so beautiful. 0.97
01:28:34.000 No, they're not going there to cross.
01:28:37.000 Yeah, that's all mountainous.
01:28:39.000 I don't know.
01:28:39.000 I mean, it's hard to see actually.
01:28:42.000 Where is the most border crossings?
01:28:46.000 Well, for a while, it was like where they had that road where they were just letting people through.
01:28:49.000 Most border crossings are actually in Arizona.
01:28:52.000 Really?
01:28:53.000 Yeah, I'm almost positive.
01:28:54.000 So I'm sure Jamie's going to find it here.
01:28:57.000 I'm asking how many happened through Big Bend National Park.
01:28:59.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
01:29:00.000 Fucking one. 1.00
01:29:00.000 Find that out. 1.00
01:29:02.000 30.
01:29:03.000 Going to stop them.
01:29:04.000 $84 billion.
01:29:05.000 Yeah, it's just like, God.
01:29:08.000 I don't know.
01:29:08.000 Just stuff like this.
01:29:09.000 So what happens is like, You get distracted with the Israel, the bombing of the girls' school, the Epstein files, and then they do shit like this.
01:29:17.000 Okay, the only official border crossing inside Big Bend National Park is the Boquillas port of entry, and it sees on the order of about 10,000 legal crossings by visitors per year, plus a relatively small number of unauthorized crossings compared with other parts of the U.S. Mexico border.
01:29:35.000 What exists in Big Bend?
01:29:36.000 Big Bend National Park shares about 118 miles of border with Mexico along the Rio Grande.
01:29:42.000 The only legal port of entry.
01:29:44.000 Actually, inside the park is Boquillas Crossing, a small pedestrian only crossing to the Boquillas, Del Carmen, Mexico.
01:29:52.000 National Park Service information and travel videos describe Boquillas as handling roughly 10,000 visitor crossings per year.
01:30:00.000 Yeah, those are mostly all legal.
01:30:02.000 So, 734.
01:30:06.000 Border Patrol sector sees only a fraction of total Southwest border crossings.
01:30:10.000 One report cited 734 people documented crossing.
01:30:15.000 In that sector, by more than 27,000 along the entire U.S. Mexico border in a given period.
01:30:22.000 And like, what year was that where it was 734?
01:30:26.000 Was that before they shut down the border? 0.93
01:30:29.000 It was really crazy how many people came in the country. 1.00
01:30:32.000 Oh, I know.
01:30:33.000 The fact that over four years it's north of 10 million, and I've talked to people that think it's 20.
01:30:38.000 It doesn't say the year.
01:30:41.000 It doesn't say?
01:30:42.000 Wow.
01:30:43.000 And it just shows those out of the 27,000, but it doesn't say they're illegal.
01:30:47.000 So it's not a.
01:30:49.000 Hotspot of crossing.
01:30:50.000 The last slide there said it says a smallest fraction is illegal.
01:30:56.000 Of that 734, those were like total crossings in that area.
01:31:00.000 A smallest fraction was illegal.
01:31:02.000 So it's no, it's not, it's BS.
01:31:04.000 It's BS.
01:31:04.000 Right.
01:31:05.000 And they're just going to do it because they've got a nice contract.
01:31:09.000 They want a wall, beautiful wall.
01:31:11.000 Yeah, but why?
01:31:12.000 Giant wall.
01:31:13.000 In the national park?
01:31:14.000 No.
01:31:17.000 The Washington Post reported last week the skyrocketing border wall contracts now totaling more than 19.5%.
01:31:22.000 $4 billion in the last six months have mostly gone to Bernard and Fisher.
01:31:28.000 That's prompted a lawsuit against the Trump administration from a would be rival border wall builder who claims that the government doled out billions in contracts without genuine competitive opportunities.
01:31:39.000 Yeah.
01:31:40.000 See, that's illegal.
01:31:40.000 All right.
01:31:41.000 I mean, but that's what they're doing.
01:31:43.000 Yeah.
01:31:45.000 No bueno.
01:31:46.000 No. 0.99
01:31:47.000 And so, but as I was saying, they distract us with all this other stuff and push through shit like this. 1.00
01:31:53.000 Like, who knows what a Senate, what the Senate or House is voting on, on a fucking. 0.99
01:31:57.000 Tuesday? 0.99
01:31:58.000 Well, it was this public land thing.
01:32:01.000 You know, just added in in the middle of the night.
01:32:03.000 We have no say on it. 0.98
01:32:05.000 We're distracted with all this fights at the UFC with Israel doing whatever the fuck they're doing. 0.95
01:32:11.000 And it's just like, oh, we just lost all this public land too. 0.90
01:32:15.000 And it's like, it's impossible to keep up on.
01:32:19.000 That's what's frustrating.
01:32:20.000 You know what's not frustrating?
01:32:22.000 Just bear me. 0.97
01:32:23.000 It's pretty fucking good. 0.98
01:32:24.000 Yeah, that's a man. 0.98
01:32:27.000 That's legit.
01:32:29.000 But, okay.
01:32:31.000 So, what can be done?
01:32:32.000 This bill hasn't passed, right?
01:32:34.000 No.
01:32:35.000 Now it's going to go to the Senate.
01:32:36.000 So it was in the House.
01:32:38.000 This, and here's what, here's the problem.
01:32:41.000 So this was originally this roadless rule was bipartisan.
01:32:47.000 Everybody agreed, let's protect this.
01:32:49.000 Now, with Mike Lee adding this language in there, now it's turned, now there's lines in the sand.
01:32:56.000 And nine Republican senators voted with the Democrats on this to allow this, the roadless rule to be in there.
01:33:05.000 So now it goes to the full Senate.
01:33:07.000 Now they're going to need whatever the The percentages, I think 60% of a full Senate vote for it to pass.
01:33:15.000 So we'll see. 0.98
01:33:18.000 So now the scumbag lobbyists get involved. 1.00
01:33:20.000 Yep. 0.99
01:33:21.000 And they start pressuring people and help you do this and I'll do that and help me here and I'll help you there.
01:33:26.000 When they get overwhelmed because of switchboards, if people call that 202 number, like I said, then that makes it to everybody.
01:33:33.000 What's that number again?
01:33:34.000 202 224 3421.
01:33:37.000 Say you want to keep the load.
01:33:39.000 Roadless rule intact.
01:33:40.000 You don't want to sell off public lands.
01:33:42.000 You don't want to.
01:33:42.000 This is all BS.
01:33:45.000 But they do this and yeah, the lobbyists get involved.
01:33:50.000 And what happens is like, what happened with the big beautiful bill is this part was in there and Trump wanted it in there, but it was causing such a friction.
01:33:59.000 He was just like, I want my big beautiful bill passed.
01:34:02.000 These guys are fucking it up with this public land stuff. 0.86
01:34:04.000 Pull that out. 0.98
01:34:05.000 Let's get this through.
01:34:06.000 So they did.
01:34:07.000 We saved the public land.
01:34:07.000 They pulled out this.
01:34:09.000 Who knows what we lost?
01:34:10.000 That was also attached.
01:34:12.000 But anyway, we saved public land at that time.
01:34:14.000 They were going to for affordable housing.
01:34:16.000 Same thing has to happen here. 0.95
01:34:18.000 He's got this language added into the shit that they're already working on that changes. 0.95
01:34:23.000 You know, we've had this in place for decades and it's worked, right? 0.95
01:34:27.000 So we have to say, no, we're not down with this and they have to pull it out again.
01:34:32.000 Well, I hope we can get it through.
01:34:34.000 You got it up on social media where people can.
01:34:34.000 We'll push it.
01:34:37.000 Yeah, I will.
01:34:37.000 Cameron Haynes, Instagram.
01:34:39.000 I will for sure.
01:34:39.000 But it's like, you know, it's.
01:34:43.000 This is so important because it's so important to people without a voice.
01:34:47.000 So it's like, I feel sometimes like, how did I get in this position?
01:34:53.000 I know you do too, like where you're at the White House. 0.98
01:34:55.000 You're just like, how the fuck could somebody like me earn this opportunity? 0.98
01:34:59.000 Right. 0.97
01:35:00.000 You've earned it through decades and decades of work, of being curious, of being fair, of being positive, of caring.
01:35:08.000 And now people want to come on and share their thoughts with you.
01:35:10.000 That gives you a platform.
01:35:12.000 You've created the most powerful voice.
01:35:14.000 Probably in the world at some times.
01:35:18.000 And so you get invited to the White House.
01:35:20.000 And I know, like for me, I know they've used me there before.
01:35:25.000 Like, yeah, I created value in myself.
01:35:29.000 They invited me there for Veterans Day. 0.96
01:35:31.000 And I said, no, I'm not going because I don't fucking agree with this war in Iran. 1.00
01:35:34.000 I don't agree with all this shit. 1.00
01:35:36.000 I don't want to go and have a picture in the fucking White House so people could be like, see, see, you fucking, you're part of this. 1.00
01:35:44.000 You know, because we did. 1.00
01:35:45.000 We thought.
01:35:46.000 That Trump was the best option at the last election.
01:35:49.000 I did.
01:35:49.000 I 100% believed he was better.
01:35:51.000 The thing is, he might still have been the best option.
01:35:54.000 He might be.
01:35:56.000 And that's fine.
01:35:56.000 We don't know what would have happened if the Kamala Harris administration had been a continuation of the Biden administration.
01:36:03.000 I don't want people coming in the border unchecked by the millions.
01:36:08.000 I didn't want that. 1.00
01:36:09.000 I didn't want, you know, the celebration of transgenderism. 1.00
01:36:12.000 I have no problem with transgenders or cross dressers or any, I have no problem or gay or anything like that. 1.00
01:36:19.000 I just don't want it promoted just crazily to our youth. 1.00
01:36:22.000 That's it.
01:36:23.000 I don't want youth getting surgery that their parents don't know about because they can't have a say in it now.
01:36:30.000 I don't, I didn't want any of that.
01:36:31.000 So, of course, I'm going to vote for Trump, right? 1.00
01:36:34.000 Now, I don't like any of this shit. 0.99
01:36:35.000 So, I have the right to say, no, I'm not down with this. 1.00
01:36:40.000 And I'm not going to be in your picture at the fucking White House so you can use it. 1.00
01:36:43.000 And all the people who listen to me would be like, oh, fuck, he was down. 0.99
01:36:48.000 So, they wanted you to go for Veterans Day? 0.99
01:36:50.000 And what was the premise of having you there?
01:36:53.000 But you're not a veteran.
01:36:53.000 I don't know.
01:36:55.000 So, what was the premise?
01:36:56.000 It's only because I have a big platform.
01:37:00.000 So, they're going to celebrate Veterans Day at the White House, and they just said, let's get some famous people.
01:37:06.000 Probably.
01:37:06.000 I mean, it's, it's, you don't remember the Epstein files where all the influencers had the binder?
01:37:11.000 Well, it was Pam Bondi.
01:37:13.000 But, and there was, uh, but there's, there was a few other influencers.
01:37:13.000 Yeah.
01:37:17.000 But they use, they, they, you, they can use people like us for their messaging.
01:37:22.000 Uh huh.
01:37:22.000 And then they invited me back again after, now I've been pretty critical of this administration just because I care.
01:37:29.000 And it's just like, I don't have to agree with fucking lockstep with the person I voted for.
01:37:33.000 That's our right as citizens to be like, I voted for that, but I don't agree with this. 0.87
01:37:37.000 And I'm not happy about this.
01:37:38.000 And I'm, and I want you to know.
01:37:40.000 That's our right as voters.
01:37:41.000 Would they invite you back again for that?
01:37:43.000 This was back, it was for a public land thing.
01:37:46.000 And I'm like, yeah, I'm down for it.
01:37:49.000 But I just know I had this kid on, Benji Backer.
01:37:52.000 He's like, has this page, it's nonpartisan something for outdoors.
01:37:57.000 But I did this show with him, and there was bringing different people into debate public land or like to share why we care about public land coming from different places, but it's still all important to us.
01:38:10.000 And I did the show with him.
01:38:11.000 Well, He went.
01:38:13.000 I had him on the podcast.
01:38:14.000 He talked about his how he's working hard to protect public land.
01:38:17.000 He went back and Trump signed an executive order, something about public land.
01:38:23.000 And all it was was a pomp and circumstance photo op to get executive order.
01:38:29.000 Nothing has happened to it, nothing has happened with it.
01:38:31.000 No action's been taken.
01:38:33.000 It was like all it was was just they can make a press clipping out of it theater, a theater, and nothing's going to change.
01:38:41.000 Nothing changes, nothing's protected.
01:38:43.000 So that's what I feel like a lot of these times.
01:38:46.000 If I get invited there, it's for that, it's to make my base, if I have a base, I'm not a politician, but to make my people feel a little better about whatever's going on.
01:38:56.000 And I understand that's how it works.
01:38:59.000 You want powerful people on your side, right?
01:39:00.000 I'm not saying I'm powerful, but I have a pretty big following.
01:39:05.000 I just went back there because it's a huge honor.
01:39:07.000 Like the few times that I've been back there and it's amazing.
01:39:10.000 And it's like being in the White House, somebody like me, Should never be there, but I've created value in my name in some ways that I get that opportunity.
01:39:19.000 But that opportunity comes with a price.
01:39:21.000 So now I have to think about, am I true to what I believe in by showing support for this?
01:39:27.000 And now there's too much for me that I'm not happy with that I can't ignore it personally.
01:39:33.000 So I feel like they use opportunities like that for press.
01:39:39.000 Well, it seems like there's so many different people that want a piece of the pie.
01:39:45.000 And if there's these giant contracts for border walls and giant contracts for this, it's just such an incentive to do things that people don't want.
01:39:54.000 Or what about the military drones?
01:39:56.000 Those contracts when this war started.
01:39:59.000 That's, you can look into who made money on that one.
01:40:03.000 Who made money on that one?
01:40:06.000 Should we look it up, Jamie?
01:40:08.000 Drone military contract.
01:40:10.000 Let's see who made money.
01:40:11.000 I don't want to say.
01:40:12.000 But you know, huh?
01:40:14.000 Okay.
01:40:14.000 Well, I don't know.
01:40:15.000 So I'm going to be surprised.
01:40:17.000 Yeah.
01:40:17.000 So maybe, maybe not.
01:40:18.000 But like when you follow the money, it makes a lot of sense.
01:40:22.000 Of course.
01:40:23.000 It always does. 1.00
01:40:23.000 When you follow AIPAC, you're like, why is this politician always pushing this shit? 1.00
01:40:27.000 Where do they get their money? 1.00
01:40:29.000 Oh, I know this guy back home.
01:40:31.000 He's running for like this local politician thing.
01:40:33.000 His name's Adam.
01:40:34.000 He's like, he goes, Don Jr.
01:40:38.000 What, Jamie?
01:40:38.000 What?
01:40:39.000 What did you find?
01:40:40.000 Wait a minute.
01:40:42.000 Are you?
01:40:42.000 What did you find?
01:40:43.000 I'm just looking for the one thing.
01:40:44.000 This has got to be a mistake.
01:40:46.000 Eric and Don Jr. invest in military drone company amid Iran war.
01:40:51.000 Jamie, where'd you find this?
01:40:53.000 That seems like propaganda from Iran or something.
01:40:59.000 Is that a cartoon? 0.75
01:41:00.000 Iran's cartoon? 0.87
01:41:02.000 Propaganda again.
01:41:05.000 No, but so anyway, you start.
01:41:08.000 I was talking about this local guy back home, and he said that he goes, I need to call Israel.
01:41:14.000 He goes, It is so hard to get money for like to run as a, in whatever, it's just a local election.
01:41:19.000 But you go to a business, they say, Yeah, here, I got $18 I can contribute, right?
01:41:24.000 Where, so you see these big politicians, you see how much money they're getting.
01:41:28.000 It's like, Wait, what's this AIPAC thing?
01:41:31.000 Why did they get millions?
01:41:33.000 Oh, then you start wondering how they're voting on things.
01:41:35.000 You're like, This is making a lot more sense.
01:41:38.000 It's like, where's the money coming from?
01:41:40.000 Yeah, they have to take all that out of politics.
01:41:44.000 I don't know how you could at this point, but when you can influence politicians and influence who gets promoted to be voted for, who gets put out into the public eye in a great light, in a positive light, and then you realize that there's just all this money from corporations to get this person in or from other corporations.
01:41:44.000 Oh, my God.
01:42:06.000 Foreign countries to get this person in, or from lobbyists to get this person in.
01:42:09.000 And you're like, wait, that's not serving us.
01:42:13.000 No, it's like, what happened?
01:42:14.000 How do you stop that?
01:42:15.000 When did, okay, here's a big question.
01:42:18.000 When did money officially become a problem in politics?
01:42:24.000 I know that's a very broad question, but put that in perplexity and see what it says.
01:42:29.000 The Citizens United thing was a big deal, but I think it was 2012.
01:42:32.000 What thing is that?
01:42:33.000 Citizens United.
01:42:34.000 Citizens United.
01:42:35.000 And that was 2012.
01:42:35.000 Yeah.
01:42:36.000 I think so.
01:42:37.000 That changed it a lot, but it was always a problem before that.
01:42:40.000 I mean, there's always been.
01:42:43.000 When did corporations become a real problem?
01:42:48.000 When did AIPAC become a problem?
01:42:51.000 When did AIPAC form and when did they start donating to American politicians?
01:42:59.000 Yeah, it's.
01:43:00.000 First of all, I don't think any foreign government, anyone connected to a foreign government, should have any influence whatsoever on American politicians.
01:43:07.000 I've heard our politicians say their loyalty is to Israel.
01:43:11.000 That is crazy.
01:43:12.000 I've heard people say that too.
01:43:14.000 2022.
01:43:14.000 2022.
01:43:15.000 They not directly start donating to U.S. political candidates until 2022. 0.99
01:43:21.000 Fucking Jesus. 0.99
01:43:24.000 So, if I don't, I mean, if I remember correctly, Trump didn't take any money from Israel in his first election. 0.99
01:43:32.000 And now he just gave an award to somebody.
01:43:37.000 You can see who he just gave an award to.
01:43:39.000 He gave an award?
01:43:39.000 What kind?
01:43:40.000 One of them big ones?
01:43:41.000 One of them nice ones where they put them around your neck and you stand there in the Oval Office?
01:43:44.000 Yep.
01:43:46.000 Who contributed $250 million to his last election?
01:43:50.000 Oh.
01:43:50.000 So do you want an award?
01:43:53.000 That's how much you've got to pay for an award?
01:43:54.000 I'm good.
01:43:55.000 I don't really want an award.
01:43:56.000 I wouldn't know what to do with it anyway.
01:43:58.000 So, to me, that is so you said, like, if 2022, I would imagine APEC would have been around much longer.
01:44:06.000 I would have thought, I didn't know that actually.
01:44:07.000 But when I look at, like, if you look at Thomas Massey, he got in the crosshairs of the president for whatever reason, right?
01:44:17.000 He got, they had a candidate they wanted him to lose to, and he did lose.
01:44:25.000 Yeah, so here's the thing.
01:44:27.000 We'll get to that in a second.
01:44:28.000 Here's the thing.
01:44:28.000 Citizens United decision is widely seen as having created serious problems in U.S. politics by vastly increasing the role of big money and reducing transparency.
01:44:39.000 And so this was what year, Jamie?
01:44:41.000 I was going to say it was 2012.
01:44:44.000 Oh, okay.
01:44:45.000 2011, 2010, 2010.
01:44:47.000 2010.
01:44:48.000 So 2010, Supreme Court decision further tilted political influence towards wealthy donors and corporations. 0.99
01:44:55.000 That's when we got fucked. 0.99
01:44:56.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:44:56.000 I think that's when it started treating corporations like a Person and gave them rights in some way. 0.98
01:45:01.000 See that second bullet point?
01:45:01.000 That was Obama.
01:45:03.000 Supercharged PACs, which can take unlimited contributions from wealthy donors to spend unlimited amounts. 0.66
01:45:08.000 So that's how they control the elections, right there.
01:45:11.000 And that was the Obama administration.
01:45:14.000 Dark money.
01:45:16.000 Dark money from groups that don't fully disclose donors have exploded.
01:45:19.000 Voters often cannot see who's really funding major political campaigns. 0.88
01:45:23.000 So we need to just fucking tune the way back machine to 2009. 0.99
01:45:28.000 But even then, like 2009 is after they bailed out the fucking banks. 0.99
01:45:31.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:45:33.000 15 years later, Citizens United defined the 2024 election.
01:45:36.000 Yeah, there it is. 1.00
01:45:38.000 We're fucked. 1.00
01:45:39.000 It's a slippery slope. 1.00
01:45:41.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:45:42.000 So that's like Ruth Ginsburg right there called it the worst ruling of her time on the court.
01:45:47.000 Overwhelming majorities of Americans have consistently expressed disapproval of the ruling, with at least 22 states and hundreds of cities voting to support a constitutional amendment to overturn it.
01:45:47.000 Whoa.
01:45:57.000 Citizens United reshaped political campaigns in profound ways, giving corporations and billionaire funded super PACs.
01:46:04.000 A central role in U.S. elections in making untraceable dark money a major force in politics.
01:46:10.000 And yet, it may only be now, in the aftermath of the 2024 election, we could begin to understand the full impact of the decision.
01:46:17.000 And it's perfect, too, because Citizens United.
01:46:20.000 So, this is like the language they use to dupe us.
01:46:23.000 Like, oh, Citizens United.
01:46:25.000 We're together.
01:46:26.000 This is good, right?
01:46:27.000 Just like the Patriot Act.
01:46:28.000 Yeah, or like in Oregon, that hunting thing, it's called the Peace Act.
01:46:33.000 Oh, yeah.
01:46:34.000 Talk about that, because that one's bonkers.
01:46:36.000 Yeah, so this is nuts.
01:46:37.000 So, this is.
01:46:38.000 Same thing.
01:46:38.000 It's just follow the money.
01:46:41.000 If you want to know why we're so fucked up, follow the money. 0.98
01:46:46.000 So, the IP28, this is a crazy thing. 0.99
01:46:49.000 They want to.
01:46:51.000 Here's where I'll just explain Oregon real quick.
01:46:54.000 Oregon is like a petri dish for these crazy ideas, for these political ideas.
01:46:59.000 Like, if you think of legalizing recreational drug use, you know, we did that in Oregon, like heroin, meth, you can have that.
01:47:08.000 It's fine.
01:47:09.000 It's whatever.
01:47:10.000 I think they turned that back.
01:47:11.000 Right.
01:47:12.000 But they tried it to see how it would work in Oregon.
01:47:14.000 Yeah, it didn't work out so well.
01:47:15.000 Right.
01:47:16.000 Now, this is another crazy one, but they try it in Oregon because it's very, we've got a huge liberal population in Portland and Eugene and some of these, and Salem. 1.00
01:47:26.000 But not just liberals, retards. 1.00
01:47:29.000 Yeah, they're more than just, because I'm friends with liberals for sure. 1.00
01:47:32.000 Yeah, they're gone.
01:47:33.000 They're at the far end of the political spectrum on the left.
01:47:37.000 For sure.
01:47:37.000 They're full on communists, socialists, no meat.
01:47:41.000 Everyone should be a vegan.
01:47:43.000 They want everybody to get bitten by that tick.
01:47:46.000 Yeah, I mean, so much.
01:47:47.000 We should talk about that too.
01:47:48.000 We'll get to that in a minute.
01:47:50.000 Law, the new thing, the bill they're trying to pass, ban.
01:47:55.000 First of all, was it the governor of Washington? 0.99
01:48:02.000 Which governor, was it Oregon or Washington, that tried to make it so that you have to have a fucking license to paddleboard? 0.98
01:48:09.000 Oh, probably Washington. 0.99
01:48:12.000 I would say Washington. 1.00
01:48:12.000 Can you fucking imagine telling someone that they have to have a license to paddle a fucking canoe? 1.00
01:48:19.000 You have to pay the state money. 1.00
01:48:19.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:48:22.000 To have a license to paddle a fucking canoe. 0.99
01:48:25.000 They also made it like during COVID, like some guy was out fishing by himself in the lake. 0.99
01:48:29.000 I think he got a ticket.
01:48:31.000 A guy got arrested when he was surfing by himself in California.
01:48:35.000 What are you going to get sick out there in the middle of the ocean surfing?
01:48:35.000 Right.
01:48:38.000 It's just silly.
01:48:39.000 But this IP28, they bill it as, you know, on the.
01:48:43.000 So they'll do this thing like go to get these votes.
01:48:46.000 They needed 117,000 votes to get this on the ballot.
01:48:50.000 So to get 117,000 people to sign your petition, Basically, all it said was stop animal cruelty.
01:48:59.000 All you have to do is go to Portland and visit one homeless shelter.
01:49:02.000 To say, hey, do you want to stop animal cruelty?
01:49:04.000 Right.
01:49:04.000 Okay.
01:49:05.000 Yeah, I love animals.
01:49:06.000 Well, I love animals too.
01:49:08.000 Oh, he signed this.
01:49:09.000 So they didn't tell you that it's making, you know, you can't fish, you can't hunt, you can't raise animals like.
01:49:17.000 Backyard chickens.
01:49:18.000 You can't raise backyard chickens. 0.73
01:49:19.000 Ranchers. 0.98
01:49:20.000 Just like even ranchers sell beef.
01:49:22.000 You can't do it.
01:49:23.000 They're making it like even the breeding.
01:49:26.000 Of animals, like we breed cows, we breed horses.
01:49:29.000 Um, there's stud fees, there's different things that make better race, like, like uh, race horses, but there's also better product for beef, right?
01:49:39.000 So, we control like when uh, when a cow goes into heat, when it gets bred, things like that.
01:49:45.000 That's part of like being a rancher. 0.62
01:49:47.000 Well, they want to make that like because a cow didn't agree to it, it's like rape, it's like sexual assault.
01:49:53.000 Like, you can't control when animals breed, so that takes away ranching.
01:49:57.000 There is no ranching, right?
01:49:59.000 So, they want to make it to where They're not going to make eating meat illegal, but if people can't raise it, you're buying it from some other state at a higher price to get it.
01:50:09.000 You're eliminating ranches in Oregon.
01:50:11.000 Yeah.
01:50:11.000 In Oregon.
01:50:12.000 So it's killing a whole industry.
01:50:13.000 Crazy.
01:50:14.000 And they could say that, like, even if you herd an animal, I don't know what, like, you could get charged with assault.
01:50:23.000 So this is, they want every animal treated like your family pet or dog.
01:50:30.000 And, But the thing is, if you kill a chicken for food, you go to jail.
01:50:30.000 Oh.
01:50:34.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:50:35.000 I was wondering, like, if you, you know, how you're driving a car and like sometimes a bird flies in front of you.
01:50:40.000 Right.
01:50:40.000 You're going to get arrested for that?
01:50:41.000 Yeah, that.
01:50:42.000 But you're responsible for your vehicle.
01:50:44.000 You killed that squirrel.
01:50:45.000 So, this guy who introduced this, this is the third attempt at doing this.
01:50:50.000 He knows he's not going to get the vote because how it worked to get on the ballot, they take 6% of the votes cast in the last governor election.
01:51:00.000 So, 6% of the last votes casted.
01:51:03.000 So, it's a small number.
01:51:05.000 But it's 117,000.
01:51:08.000 They can get that many by just saying stop animal cruelty.
01:51:10.000 Now it goes to the ballot.
01:51:12.000 But he knows this is his third time.
01:51:14.000 He knows this isn't going to pass.
01:51:16.000 But it's like it just tells them what they need to work on, what language they need to change.
01:51:21.000 It's all part of this long term process to get hunting and fishing stopped, right?
01:51:26.000 Because I think, in general, the government, they like consumers.
01:51:31.000 They don't like people being too self sufficient.
01:51:35.000 They like them relying on that.
01:51:36.000 This is another step.
01:51:37.000 Like if we can get rid of ranchers, Hunting and fishing, don't need the guns, don't need to be killing stuff.
01:51:43.000 Then you're just like, we'll provide the meat for you.
01:51:45.000 Bill Gates owns all this land. 0.99
01:51:47.000 You talked about Bill Gates before and him making decisions on shit he doesn't know anything about. 0.99
01:51:51.000 He dropped out of college. 0.98
01:51:52.000 But did you say he dropped out of college?
01:51:55.000 Yeah.
01:51:55.000 So it's, they want to be able to control who's providing the food, who's making the money, what type of food it is.
01:52:05.000 You know, it's like, it goes back to the whole WEC thing. 0.93
01:52:07.000 It's like, you will own nothing and be happy.
01:52:10.000 It's like, they want these smart cities working towards that to where, no, you don't need to be a badass hunter anymore.
01:52:16.000 We got it.
01:52:17.000 And they can use these nutty progressive people. 0.89
01:52:17.000 Right. 0.89
01:52:20.000 As just useful idiots to push things through. 0.99
01:52:22.000 Yeah, and then you get a bunch of people that are pushing money, PACs that are pushing money towards these people to fund them to push these wacky ideas. 0.99
01:52:22.000 That's all it is. 0.99
01:52:29.000 And you go, why would they do that?
01:52:31.000 Well, that's why they do that.
01:52:32.000 They do that because they want you dependent on them.
01:52:34.000 Right.
01:52:34.000 And this is part of this process where it doesn't happen overnight.
01:52:38.000 And this thing won't make it into law for sure, but they'll see where they're at.
01:52:43.000 This will be like, okay, here's where we're at.
01:52:45.000 Here's what we need to change on our messaging.
01:52:47.000 Here's where the biggest pushback was.
01:52:50.000 And they adjust.
01:52:52.000 Where.
01:52:53.000 Can we do that on the other side?
01:52:55.000 It's like, I know there's farming and ranchies organizations, but like it's money.
01:53:02.000 It's like, who's giving these people the money?
01:53:03.000 It's usually coming from out of state.
01:53:05.000 And they have more money and they're more organized than people who are working. 0.98
01:53:10.000 Cause when you're a rancher, you're fucking working all the time. 0.99
01:53:13.000 You don't, you can't go get signatures and shit. 0.99
01:53:16.000 You got work to do. 0.98
01:53:16.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:53:18.000 These fucking environmental people that are just crazy like extremists, they get paid for doing this. 1.00
01:53:26.000 So it's like that's their job. 1.00
01:53:30.000 You know, a rancher has a job and it's very hard.
01:53:32.000 He doesn't have time to go out and knock on doors. 0.95
01:53:36.000 That's the really fucked up part a lot of these people that are these protesters and these organizers, that is their job. 0.97
01:53:43.000 And that's hard for people to really understand. 0.99
01:53:46.000 And until you listen to people like Mike Benz, where he breaks down how NGOs work and how they fund things, and the fact that most of these things are a fucking scam. 1.00
01:53:58.000 Most nonprofits are a fucking scam. 1.00
01:54:00.000 Definitely. 1.00
01:54:01.000 And it's hard for people to wrap their head around that because you think of nonprofit, look, oh, my son works for a nonprofit.
01:54:07.000 Oh, he must be a good guy.
01:54:08.000 He's like trying to help.
01:54:08.000 Yeah.
01:54:10.000 And maybe he is a good guy.
01:54:11.000 Maybe he starts out a good guy.
01:54:13.000 But then you're corrupted by this system that you realize, like, oh, no, the nonprofit is essentially about supporting the nonprofit.
01:54:20.000 Yeah.
01:54:20.000 And most of the money goes to the supporting of this organization the overhead, the structure, all the infrastructure, all the people working there.
01:54:29.000 They all get paid very well. 0.99
01:54:31.000 And then a needed piece goes to whatever the fuck it is. 0.98
01:54:35.000 The people starting the nonprofit will be like, okay, first, I'm going to need this much money. 0.98
01:54:41.000 Exactly.
01:54:42.000 Oh, you want to be my VP?
01:54:43.000 I can count on you.
01:54:45.000 You're going to make this much money.
01:54:47.000 So that's what happens.
01:54:49.000 And then whatever's left is like, that's their, you know, that they can't write off.
01:54:53.000 That's what they contribute.
01:54:55.000 Yeah.
01:54:56.000 What did I see this?
01:54:57.000 Oh, this is another one that I saw about nonprofit hospitals.
01:55:02.000 Do you know that nonprofit hospitals are the most profitable?
01:55:05.000 Yeah.
01:55:07.000 Yeah, for sure. 0.96
01:55:09.000 They can just hide that money.
01:55:10.000 They charge crazy amounts for.
01:55:12.000 How crazy is that?
01:55:13.000 Yeah.
01:55:14.000 Nonprofit are the most profitable.
01:55:17.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:55:18.000 So, this whole idea is all just bullshit. 0.98
01:55:22.000 Most of what you think of as like philanthropy is really like the Bill Gates stuff. 0.99
01:55:27.000 There's a great book called.
01:55:27.000 Yeah.
01:55:29.000 Fuck, what is the name of the book? 1.00
01:55:31.000 I read this book. 1.00
01:55:32.000 Contrologarks.
01:55:34.000 It's all about how a lot of these guys they realize that they're having public image problems, like particularly Bill Gates, like during the antitrust lawsuits with Microsoft.
01:55:47.000 Then he pivots to this Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation where it's all about philanthropy, but they're philanthro capitalists.
01:55:47.000 Yeah.
01:55:54.000 All the different philanthropy ventures are extremely profitable. 0.95
01:55:58.000 Like he made $500 million allegedly off the COVID vaccine, off of his investments in this vaccine that didn't even fucking work well. 0.90
01:56:06.000 Yeah. 0.87
01:56:07.000 I think Trump got paid.
01:56:08.000 Paid with that too.
01:56:10.000 But it's like, yeah, it's, you know, the money thing. 1.00
01:56:15.000 The citizens, the regular citizens are the ones that pay the price for this shit. 1.00
01:56:15.000 I don't know. 1.00
01:56:19.000 It's dark.
01:56:20.000 And so here it is.
01:56:22.000 Put your headset on real quick.
01:56:24.000 Listen, this guy talked about Congressman recently described some nonprofit hospitals as hedge funds with hospital beds.
01:56:33.000 This person said that nonprofit hospitals were like hedge funds with hospital beds.
01:56:37.000 And I was like, I bet they are.
01:56:39.000 What's going on here?
01:56:40.000 Because in the United States, more than half of our hospitals are nonprofits.
01:56:45.000 But the hospital world doesn't feel very nonprofity.
01:56:48.000 And then I read this article by Scott Hodge in the Washington Post that talked about how they need to be taxed.
01:56:53.000 And it turns out that the total revenues of nonprofit hospitals in America in 2023, so three years ago, was $1.3 trillion.
01:57:01.000 And it turns out that they're getting a bunch of taxpayer money.
01:57:03.000 In fact, three years ago, so this is probably a lot more now, nonprofit hospitals were making $45 billion worth of profit.
01:57:10.000 And as I mentioned, we taxpayers give them a bunch of money.
01:57:13.000 In fact, in 2021, we gave them $38 billion, $11.5 billion of it because they don't have to pay any taxes.
01:57:22.000 And that was five years ago, so this is probably more like $60 billion now.
01:57:25.000 And the reason that we hypothetically give them this money as taxpayers is because they're supposed to do charity.
01:57:31.000 But there was a study that looked at almost 1,500 nonprofit hospitals and found that 86% of them provided little or no charity.
01:57:39.000 And that's because almost everybody that goes to hospitals has insurance, is either private health insurance or insurance from the government.
01:57:45.000 Only 3% of people don't have health insurance, and it's not like the hospitals give them a deal.
01:57:50.000 Turns out that the government was checking this out around 2009.
01:57:54.000 The hospitals spun up a lobbying campaign and got any requirements that would basically define what kind of charity they would have to do squashed.
01:58:02.000 So now it's kind of the honor system.
01:58:04.000 So I was like, where are those billions of dollars going that the nonprofit hospitals make in profits?
01:58:09.000 Turns out it goes to executives, like these CEOs who are getting paid about $4.5 million a year, meanwhile their nurses make about $70K.
01:58:16.000 $4.5 million a year here.
01:58:18.000 Apparently, management consultants getting billions of dollars from nonprofit hospitals.
01:58:22.000 And here's a guy, Robert, at a hospital in New York who paid himself $15.3 million a year.
01:58:27.000 Nonprofit hospital.
01:58:28.000 And there are really good nonprofit hospitals that are primarily funded by donations and serve low income families and people in need, like St. Jude or like the Shriners.
01:58:37.000 But it looks like about 86% of these nonprofit hospitals get $50 or $60 billion from U.S. taxpayers, like you and me, because they're supposed to do some form of charity.
01:58:47.000 But they paid off the government so they don't have to really do charity.
01:58:50.000 And some of their CEOs are making $15.3 million a year while we subsidize them with like $50 billion.
01:58:56.000 Do you think this is right?
01:58:57.000 I saw this conversation.
01:58:58.000 Okay, so this is P. Davis Jones on Instagram. 1.00
01:59:04.000 Motherfuckers. 1.00
01:59:05.000 So it's like, it's again, it's just like the UFO thing. 1.00
01:59:09.000 It's there's distractions.
01:59:09.000 Yep.
01:59:11.000 There's so much to pay attention to. 0.99
01:59:13.000 There's so much fucking fraud and there's so much cash. 0.97
01:59:17.000 This is what Elon told me when he started looking into the Doge stuff. 0.99
01:59:19.000 He's like, it's impossible.
01:59:21.000 To describe the amount of fraud.
01:59:23.000 Yeah.
01:59:23.000 He's like, it's insane.
01:59:24.000 That's what Nick Shirley found in Minnesota when he went to investigate the daycares and also found in California with hospice care centers. 0.98
01:59:32.000 There's entire motels where every room was supposed to be an office for some fucking nonprofit, and they're all just siphoning money. 0.99
01:59:41.000 It's madness. 0.97
01:59:42.000 So that's like, that's what it makes regular people like me, like, what's the answer?
01:59:48.000 It's like, what's the point to all this? 1.00
01:59:50.000 Aliens, I'm paying out my ass in taxes for shit like this. 1.00
01:59:56.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:59:57.000 Or for war.
01:59:58.000 It's like, yeah, all of it's gross.
02:00:00.000 Yeah.
02:00:00.000 Every single, yeah.
02:00:02.000 I mean, what we're going to have to have.
02:00:04.000 Is some sort of like radical transparency where all this stuff gets exposed and gets exposed, like probably with some AI program.
02:00:15.000 And no one's going to want to turn that on.
02:00:17.000 They're never going to want everyone to know exactly how much fraud and how much fucking terrible management they've done with our money. 0.92
02:00:17.000 Right. 0.92
02:00:24.000 Oh.
02:00:25.000 Like the Pentagon's never passed an audit once.
02:00:27.000 Not one.
02:00:27.000 No.
02:00:28.000 Zero.
02:00:28.000 No.
02:00:28.000 And you look at.
02:00:29.000 You don't pass an audit, you're going to jail.
02:00:30.000 For sure.
02:00:31.000 Not that.
02:00:31.000 Yeah.
02:00:32.000 You look at, yeah, how much we're in debt, all the.
02:00:34.000 Shenanigans they do with the public money.
02:00:36.000 It's just like.
02:00:37.000 That's over exaggerated.
02:00:38.000 We're only in debt $39 trillion.
02:00:40.000 That's not a big deal.
02:00:41.000 Isn't that crazy?
02:00:42.000 You know, the thing is, they can just print $39 trillion and it's done.
02:00:45.000 Yeah.
02:00:46.000 Just pay it off.
02:00:47.000 The reason why they don't is because they have really good control.
02:00:49.000 God.
02:00:50.000 They're doing a great job.
02:00:51.000 It's a.
02:00:52.000 One thing on this hunting thing, I do have to give credit to Dan Gates and Howell.
02:00:56.000 It's like they've done a good job in Colorado, like fighting this.
02:00:59.000 This has been.
02:01:01.000 We've won a few things there.
02:01:03.000 Have they tried the same thing with Oregon and Colorado?
02:01:06.000 The same kind of thing?
02:01:07.000 Well, no.
02:01:08.000 What Dan is doing, he's got out there Initiative 302, and it's going to make hunting and fishing in Colorado a constitutional right.
02:01:19.000 Okay.
02:01:19.000 So hopefully that, you know, how these, just like this lobbyist and this IP28, they're seeing what works and what they can get away with and kind of planning for the future.
02:01:29.000 Well, if Dan is successful with this Initiative 302 passing, that will be like how we can address this in the future to protect hunting and fishing.
02:01:36.000 Because if it can go through there, this is like the litmus test for it, then okay.
02:01:41.000 Maybe we can do this in other states also.
02:01:42.000 So, this is a big one coming up.
02:01:44.000 They're working on it right now. 0.92
02:01:45.000 But, I mean, we have to, we just have to get more savvy politically to, when they're doing shit like this, we have to be more in tune, you know, and educated on it. 0.62
02:01:55.000 God, it's such a bummer, though, because, like, the people that I know, like Mike Benz, that do this all day, I do not envy them. 0.82
02:02:02.000 I mean, Mike Benz makes these live streams where he's just exposing, and they last for hours.
02:02:02.000 Terrible.
02:02:07.000 Like, who's going to go through them all?
02:02:08.000 Well, you know, he's exposing all these different companies.
02:02:11.000 Be nice, be positive.
02:02:13.000 We didn't do any of that.
02:02:14.000 How do you, how do you, How do you talk about this?
02:02:18.000 It's hard.
02:02:19.000 In a nice and positive way.
02:02:20.000 It's very, very, very difficult.
02:02:22.000 Very.
02:02:23.000 Especially because these are real problems.
02:02:26.000 Last on my list, well, I don't know what's on the list, but oh, I do want to talk about this Pokemon.
02:02:34.000 I want to shout out Ryan Callahan from Backcountry Hunters and Anglers.
02:02:39.000 You know O'Cal.
02:02:40.000 Sure, sure.
02:02:41.000 Great guy.
02:02:41.000 Great guy.
02:02:42.000 Bust his ass for this shit. 1.00
02:02:44.000 Martin Heinrich, which is. 1.00
02:02:45.000 He's a senator there in New Mexico.
02:02:47.000 He's, I think he's a Democrat. 0.99
02:02:49.000 I don't give a shit about Democrat, Republican, whoever. 0.98
02:02:53.000 He just fights for public lands and he's a badass. 0.97
02:02:56.000 And then also Ron Wyden there in Oregon, who normally I'd probably never agree with anything on because, you know, it's just different.
02:03:02.000 But he is, he does get, I want to give those guys credit for trying their best to protect and fight against this public land sell off and Mike Lee and this Energy Resource Committee, which is, you know, they're beholden to a different set of values.
02:03:18.000 Usually it's money related and these guys are, Kind of fighting for the guys like us who just enjoy being out in the mountains.
02:03:25.000 So you know you're being positive.
02:03:27.000 Yeah, I just wanted to tell those guys are doing great.
02:03:30.000 But I was going to bring this up.
02:03:33.000 This is like the whole scandal I've been involved with recently, which feels like a lot for me, which I don't like.
02:03:40.000 But my point on it is I feel like.
02:03:46.000 Well, let's explain the scandal before you get into that.
02:03:48.000 So you won the Oregon Marathon in your age category.
02:03:55.000 And then someone started complaining because you had taken BPC 157.
02:03:55.000 Yeah.
02:04:01.000 Which is a banned substance.
02:04:04.000 So, you would take, for people that don't know, as ridiculous as this sounds, Cam broke his foot like two years ago.
02:04:12.000 You broke your foot like two years ago and you never got it fixed.
02:04:15.000 So, all these miles you've been running, you've been running with a broken foot.
02:04:19.000 And you went to Ways to Well, they treated your foot with stem cells and they injected BPC 157 into your foot to help your foot heal.
02:04:31.000 Is the bone like fused up?
02:04:31.000 Is it healed now?
02:04:33.000 What did it do?
02:04:33.000 Yeah.
02:04:34.000 It just grew back?
02:04:34.000 Yeah, finally.
02:04:35.000 It was like, it took a while because I didn't stop running.
02:04:38.000 And, you know.
02:04:39.000 So, what does it look like now on an x ray?
02:04:41.000 It's like kind of the bone is, it was a big break, like a pretty wide break, which is why the surgeon didn't know if it was going to be able to, the bone is going to be able to make it across there because I kept like moving it.
02:04:52.000 Yeah.
02:04:53.000 And he told me, he's like, you know, with this, this is, I just had the same surgery done on my thumb where the ligament pulls a piece of the bone off and breaks it, right?
02:05:05.000 So, your ligaments and tendons are very strong.
02:05:08.000 The bone fracture.
02:05:09.000 So, what happened here is I fell and I was doing a race and basically shredded my ligament, broke this bone.
02:05:18.000 So, they had to hope that the bone was big enough to go attach it back to where it broke from because bone on bone healing is much better than ligament to bone.
02:05:27.000 It's like quicker, right?
02:05:29.000 So, we need a piece of that bone.
02:05:30.000 Well, in my foot, they said he didn't know how big that piece I broke off was.
02:05:35.000 So, there's a chance that it wouldn't reattach through surgery.
02:05:39.000 So, which means he'd have to take the ligament back.
02:05:41.000 To it.
02:05:42.000 It's called a Jones fracture.
02:05:43.000 It's on the outside of my foot.
02:05:44.000 And hope it connected.
02:05:47.000 But that would be like stretching that ligament beyond where it's supposed to be by design.
02:05:52.000 So it'd probably change the function of your foot.
02:05:54.000 It would change the dynamic of my foot and how my foot.
02:05:57.000 And I run, I have a good stride.
02:05:59.000 I run well.
02:06:01.000 And he said, there's no guarantee that this will attach like it should or that you need another surgery if this doesn't work and then another one to get the hardware out.
02:06:11.000 So I'm just like, I really don't want to do two or three surgeries.
02:06:15.000 Let's see if we can try other treatments less invasive.
02:06:18.000 If I can just deal with this pain for long enough, would my foot heal?
02:06:22.000 And it has.
02:06:24.000 So I was like very interested in not getting this surgery based on, you know, he's a renowned surgeon.
02:06:30.000 He does all the surgeries on the Oregon football team.
02:06:33.000 He's a stud.
02:06:34.000 Totally trust him.
02:06:36.000 But I heard what he was saying about like, hey, there's no guarantee this is going to work perfect.
02:06:39.000 And I took that to heart.
02:06:41.000 When did you have the injury?
02:06:42.000 How long ago was it?
02:06:43.000 It was June 16th of 2024.
02:06:45.000 Okay.
02:06:46.000 Quite a long time ago.
02:06:46.000 Yeah.
02:06:47.000 Right.
02:06:47.000 So basically, a solid two years.
02:06:50.000 So I went in and I dealt with it for, I mean, it hurt for a long time.
02:06:50.000 Yeah.
02:06:54.000 I just didn't want to stop living, you know.
02:06:55.000 And I'm like, okay, if it's just pain, I have a very high pain tolerance.
02:06:59.000 I don't care.
02:07:00.000 I'm going to block that out and just do what I do.
02:07:02.000 So I did.
02:07:04.000 I did everything.
02:07:05.000 I did all my hunts, I did races, and it was terrible.
02:07:09.000 And, but I made it.
02:07:11.000 I made it through and my foot's healed.
02:07:12.000 But so broke it in June, went into waste well, I think in July, went back in November, which is when I got that stem cell back in it.
02:07:21.000 And when they put in the BPC there, that one time in November.
02:07:26.000 And so that was like, that was a thing.
02:07:30.000 And all I said, you know, I had a very fast Eugene Marathon time for me.
02:07:35.000 I'm healthier than now that I've ever been.
02:07:37.000 I've retired, I've done more specific training.
02:07:41.000 All these people, you know, I've been labeled as like a doper, right?
02:07:44.000 Like almost like Lance Armstrong.
02:07:46.000 Well, you've been labeled by one very specific person that is a professional runner who's also a vegan.
02:07:52.000 And he has been very vocal about you in an anti hunting way.
02:07:57.000 So he's got that.
02:07:59.000 And you're also, your time, your running time, he's, is he 18 years younger than you?
02:08:05.000 Yes.
02:08:06.000 And your running time is very similar to his.
02:08:08.000 His last marathon, yeah.
02:08:09.000 Yeah.
02:08:10.000 And your running time of this year's marathon, which you won your age class, is quicker than last year's by quite a bit.
02:08:19.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:08:19.000 What people don't understand is last year your fucking foot was broken. 0.99
02:08:24.000 I didn't run last year because I was hurt. 0.99
02:08:27.000 So it was quicker than like the year before.
02:08:30.000 Was your foot broken then?
02:08:30.000 Right.
02:08:32.000 No.
02:08:32.000 No.
02:08:33.000 So your time is quicker now than it's ever been before after recovering from your broken foot.
02:08:33.000 Okay.
02:08:40.000 Yeah.
02:08:41.000 That's amazing.
02:08:42.000 But how much quicker?
02:08:43.000 10 minutes?
02:08:44.000 It was my best time was in 2006.
02:08:49.000 Me and Lance Armstrong, we did the New York Marathon.
02:08:51.000 I didn't even see him during this one, but I ran 250, like 21 in New York.
02:08:56.000 I ran 250 quite a few times, like Boston.
02:08:59.000 When I ran with Lance in 2008, I did run 250 again, and that's when we finished together.
02:09:05.000 And, you know, Truett and I were talking about this too just the other day because Truett, my son, he's going for the Olympic trials qualifier in the marathon, which means he needs to run quicker than a 216.
02:09:16.000 So we were talking about this, and it's just my training and even his training because I'm not a coach and I don't know, I just run to get in shape for bow hunting.
02:09:27.000 I don't, I'm not a pro.
02:09:27.000 Okay.
02:09:30.000 But, And I had him run, and he's very talented, but I didn't know how to coach him either.
02:09:36.000 So he hired a real coach.
02:09:38.000 And when you start getting into this marathon training and specifics of it and why you do certain exercises and why there's certain stimulus from, I mean, I just had the winner of the Eugene Marathon on my podcast, and we did a really fast run.
02:09:52.000 We ran a 506 mile, which I had never done, a mile seven of an eight mile run.
02:09:57.000 And then he said, Okay, his name's Jack Siddell.
02:10:00.000 He's like an amazing athlete, has 1,400 followers, which is.
02:10:05.000 Kind of crazy that this amazing talented people have a small amount of following, but their talent is incredible.
02:10:12.000 So he won it.
02:10:13.000 I ran with him just the other day and he said, Oh, I need to do eight 100 beater strides, which is simply essentially sprinting.
02:10:22.000 After we ran super hard eight miles, climbed a 3,000 or 2,000 foot mountain and did this fast pace, but he still had to get the stimulus needed for what he's asking his body to do, which is qualify for the Olympics, right?
02:10:37.000 So, the stimulus is what I've never done before.
02:10:40.000 I've never got on the track and did it.
02:10:42.000 All I ever did was just go run.
02:10:44.000 I just run.
02:10:44.000 It's what I do.
02:10:45.000 It's like, how do I move this needle in the right direction in a positive way?
02:10:49.000 I got to put in work.
02:10:50.000 How I'd put in work was I'd go run mile after mile after mile.
02:10:54.000 Some days, 20 miles a day, because I felt like that was a noble sacrifice for me and for achieving what goals I wanted, which was bow hunting related, not racing related.
02:11:05.000 Well, with Truett taking on this Olympic trials qualifier journey, he's He's been doing the stimulus, hired a coach, and like, hey, dad, you need to do this type of stuff.
02:11:14.000 You know, you get on the track.
02:11:16.000 You wouldn't think you need to get on track to run 26 miles quick, but you do because you need the stimulus for your body.
02:11:21.000 I had never done any of that.
02:11:22.000 I had never got enough sleep.
02:11:23.000 I would sleep, you know, if I was going to do a marathon a day and still be at work 10 hours a day, I'd have to get up at 2 45 a.m.
02:11:31.000 And I did.
02:11:32.000 And sometimes I wouldn't go to bed until midnight.
02:11:35.000 I didn't care about sleep.
02:11:36.000 You'd have Dr. Matthew Walker on here. 1.00
02:11:38.000 I'd say, fuck that dork. 1.00
02:11:40.000 I'm not listening to sleep. 1.00
02:11:41.000 It's like, I don't need sleep.
02:11:42.000 I can still perform.
02:11:43.000 Look, I just ran 26 miles yesterday on two hours of sleep.
02:11:48.000 But I wasn't performing at my best because I had to overcome my body fatigue.
02:11:53.000 So for decades, I would work, didn't miss a day of work in 26 years, never called in sick once.
02:12:01.000 Always get my miles in, always get my work done.
02:12:04.000 I was leading the cruise.
02:12:05.000 People relied on me to be a good leader.
02:12:07.000 I had to be there.
02:12:08.000 I'd still put in this work.
02:12:10.000 I would not get any sleep.
02:12:11.000 My body was so depleted.
02:12:13.000 I still did everything I needed to do at the highest level I could.
02:12:17.000 Turns out the highest level I could, given those circumstances, was a 250 marathon.
02:12:22.000 All right.
02:12:23.000 So I required three, or I mean, I retired three years ago.
02:12:26.000 Now I'm getting sleep.
02:12:27.000 Now I'm doing sauna, cold puns.
02:12:28.000 I get, you know, I spend, let's see, spend $2,000 a month on massage and body work.
02:12:39.000 And now with more specific training, like last year I ran with Truett, he ran 238 in Boston, 234 in Eugene.
02:12:47.000 We went on a run right before that.
02:12:50.000 He said, Dad, I can't keep up with you.
02:12:53.000 You should be going for the sub 230.
02:12:55.000 He was trying to break 230.
02:12:56.000 He goes, You should be going for the sub 230.
02:12:59.000 You're faster than me.
02:13:01.000 So, this was last year, but then I got hurt.
02:13:02.000 So, last year I was going to break this same record.
02:13:06.000 This year I've been healthy.
02:13:08.000 I knew I was going to get my fastest time ever.
02:13:10.000 I put up a post and I said, PR or ER?
02:13:14.000 I'm either getting a personal record or I'm going to the emergency room.
02:13:17.000 I'm sending it.
02:13:18.000 So, I'd said, PR, ER, and I got a PR.
02:13:21.000 I got 239 11, one of the fastest ever for a 58 year old.
02:13:26.000 And it's like that caused people to pay attention, which I get.
02:13:30.000 It's a very fast marathon for somebody almost 60 years old.
02:13:34.000 But you have to look at the full picture and say, like, this wasn't some just guy who just started running.
02:13:43.000 I've been running since I'm five years old.
02:13:44.000 I'm 58.
02:13:46.000 I was running, pushing myself at five, running further than any other kid in school, winning in awards.
02:13:53.000 That was 53 years ago.
02:13:55.000 Okay.
02:13:55.000 I've been doing this a while.
02:13:57.000 I haven't been training specifically because I didn't care.
02:14:01.000 And so this guy said, Oh, have you, you know, he's like mad that I was so fast. 0.99
02:14:06.000 He's talked shit about Truett. 0.98
02:14:08.000 I don't, and I'm trying to be nice and be positive. 0.97
02:14:10.000 So I'm not going to say his name.
02:14:11.000 I'm not going to, I understand people who want to protect clean sport.
02:14:15.000 I applaud USADA.
02:14:16.000 I applaud WADA.
02:14:18.000 I applaud clean sports.
02:14:19.000 I love it.
02:14:20.000 It's, it's, it's required for the Olympic athletes to get their just due.
02:14:25.000 For me, he said, You know, he's talked shit about Truett, which he's already on my radar because I remember Truett said, Hey, there's this elite guy who's saying that I'm dishonoring the marathon because, I have no chance of getting the standard.
02:14:38.000 And, you know, I said, who? 0.77
02:14:40.000 And he said, why is that dishonoring the marathon?
02:14:43.000 Because he was saying, like, True was so far away from his time that it was unrealistic to even put that as a goal.
02:14:51.000 My point was, he's a runner just like you.
02:14:54.000 He has a big dream just like you had. 1.00
02:14:56.000 Why shit on his dream? 0.99
02:14:58.000 Somebody says that this dream, they want to do it. 1.00
02:15:00.000 You're a runner.
02:15:01.000 How would it be dishonorable to have a lofty ambition?
02:15:04.000 That doesn't even make sense.
02:15:06.000 That was just words.
02:15:07.000 The words are associated because he's my son.
02:15:11.000 So that's all that amounted to.
02:15:14.000 But he was on my radar for that because Truett told me and I said, who?
02:15:19.000 And I didn't even really know who it was. 0.99
02:15:21.000 I'm just like, yeah, fuck, whatever. 0.99
02:15:21.000 Looked him up. 0.99
02:15:23.000 So anyway, I knew the name.
02:15:25.000 Well, he comes on my page after this and he says something like, he dug up this old post from like 2011, which is still up there.
02:15:32.000 And it talked about the shit I was taking from, it was like Complete Nutrition, which is like GNC.
02:15:38.000 And it was, you know, if you go to GNC, it's like, you know, Mass Gainer 2000. 0.99
02:15:45.000 So, like everything seems like it's a steroid.
02:15:46.000 It's over the counter. 0.99
02:15:47.000 It's not fucking steroids. 0.98
02:15:48.000 You can't buy steroids over the counter. 0.99
02:15:50.000 Everything that on that thing that I was doing was sponsored by Complete Nutrition, all over the counter supplements. 0.98
02:15:56.000 It's like there's no fucking EPO on here. 0.86
02:15:59.000 It's like what these people try to make it sound like. 1.00
02:16:02.000 It was just shit that I was lifting weights. 0.99
02:16:04.000 This is from 15 years ago? 0.99
02:16:06.000 2011.
02:16:07.000 It's a blog post.
02:16:08.000 Yeah.
02:16:08.000 It's like, like I said, prating around like a trophy.
02:16:08.000 He still has it.
02:16:11.000 It's like fucking over the counter, whatever. 0.99
02:16:14.000 So, He said, I said, are you still talking about that? 0.99
02:16:18.000 This is like late at night.
02:16:19.000 I was kind of irritated.
02:16:21.000 Didn't, doesn't, guy irritates me anyway.
02:16:24.000 So he said, could you pass a, you saw it, a drug test?
02:16:27.000 And I said, I have no idea.
02:16:29.000 It has nothing to do with me. 0.99
02:16:30.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.98
02:16:31.000 Probably not, though, because I, I didn't, actually, I didn't even know, but I know it's very restrictive. 0.99
02:16:39.000 And I've had a lot of Olympians and things on my show.
02:16:41.000 We don't talk about the drug test stuff.
02:16:43.000 We're just like, we just go running.
02:16:45.000 Well, what, what stuff would you take?
02:16:47.000 Had you taken that wouldn't allow you to pass a drug test?
02:16:52.000 The stuff you're taking now, like what supplements can you not take?
02:16:54.000 Because there's a lot of stuff that people just take normally that you can't take.
02:16:59.000 Peptides are one of them, right?
02:17:01.000 Certain peptides.
02:17:02.000 Certain peptides.
02:17:02.000 I think you can take certain ones, but I don't even know because I had never looked at the list.
02:17:09.000 I tried to with this when this came up.
02:17:11.000 Well, there's the other thing a lot of people fail just by taking supplements because there's third party contamination of supplements.
02:17:19.000 Yeah.
02:17:20.000 That's.
02:17:20.000 What happened to Sugar Sean O'Malley, Austrine?
02:17:23.000 It's happened to, you know, a lot of athletes.
02:17:26.000 With this, most of the stuff that you would buy at like a GNC, probably an Olympian couldn't take or they'd have to check it out.
02:17:34.000 Most of the stuff couldn't.
02:17:35.000 Right.
02:17:35.000 Because it's like how clean is a lab?
02:17:38.000 How, you know, susceptible is it to contamination? 1.00
02:17:41.000 So a lot of them, like, they're thinking about this shit every day. 0.99
02:17:44.000 Like, it's their whole life. 0.99
02:17:45.000 If they get, if they pop hot, their career's over.
02:17:49.000 So it's a huge deal.
02:17:49.000 Yeah.
02:17:51.000 I had Jordan Burrows in here and he wouldn't even try Kilco.
02:17:54.000 Cliff CBD drink.
02:17:56.000 Right.
02:17:56.000 He's like, I don't think I could take this.
02:17:57.000 Well, I had Cheeto on my show and I said, Hey, you want to try a ketone?
02:18:02.000 He's like, I don't know.
02:18:04.000 So he called Jeff Nowinski and he said, Could I take this ketone IQ?
02:18:09.000 And Jeff said, Well, depends on what batch is approved.
02:18:13.000 So the batch of the ketone IQ that was made has to be approved.
02:18:18.000 The other batch might not be approved.
02:18:21.000 So you could fail from that other batch. 0.98
02:18:24.000 I didn't know any of that shit, but he called him right before we did it. 0.97
02:18:26.000 So he didn't take it. 0.99
02:18:27.000 It's just like, So, there's things like that where it's just nonstop.
02:18:33.000 I don't know if I can take this, this, that.
02:18:34.000 I've never been in that position because I just run to Bohunt.
02:18:38.000 I've never looked at these lists, I've never done anything.
02:18:41.000 But a lot of stuff that, you know, Sudafed is on there, ADHD medicine is on there, you can't take, or you have to get what they call a therapeutic use exemption.
02:18:51.000 So, say if you were a regular guy and you had low testosterone and you wanted to do TRT, you could get that approved through a therapeutic use exemption.
02:19:02.000 That's very interesting.
02:19:03.000 Through a doctor.
02:19:04.000 You can run in the marathon with a therapeutic use exemption of testosterone, which is a legitimate performance enhancing substance.
02:19:12.000 Yeah, theoretically.
02:19:13.000 I don't know if they'd have to look at your numbers and where you're at and if this was real.
02:19:18.000 Well, you're supposed to take a very specific amount.
02:19:20.000 This was the issue with the UFC when the UFC had TUEs. 0.99
02:19:23.000 When they had TRT, VTOR, those days when guys were taking large amounts of that shit. 0.99
02:19:30.000 And that actually would stop the program, is that people started testing off the fucking charts for testosterone. 0.99
02:19:35.000 And they realized, okay, these guys are straight up juicing. 0.98
02:19:38.000 Yeah, for sure.
02:19:39.000 But if you're a 60 year old person and you want to run the marathon and you're on testosterone, It's legal.
02:19:46.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:19:47.000 It's like the TUE thing is still probably abused in some ways because we know these doctor patient relationships.
02:19:47.000 And it should be.
02:19:56.000 You can say, hey, I want to do this.
02:19:57.000 Can you make it sound like this?
02:19:59.000 Right, of course.
02:20:00.000 That's always going to be the case.
02:20:02.000 I'm not even talking.
02:20:03.000 All I'm saying is like, for, and I talk to Olympians about the situation because I want to make sure I understand it, right?
02:20:10.000 It's like, if I'm as a regular citizen, so there's 9,000 runners in the Eugene Marathon, are we all going to be held?
02:20:20.000 To the standard of Olympic athletes.
02:20:22.000 Right.
02:20:22.000 Are they testing everybody in the Eugene Marathon?
02:20:25.000 They didn't test anybody.
02:20:26.000 So there's prize money that's paid out.
02:20:26.000 Anybody.
02:20:32.000 There's Olympic trials qualifying standards, which are met.
02:20:36.000 So now you're in the Olympic trials.
02:20:38.000 And I don't want to shit on the Eugene Marathon because these smaller marathons, they don't have the money to be testing 9,000 people. 0.92
02:20:46.000 Of course. 0.97
02:20:46.000 Or probably these tests are expensive. 0.97
02:20:49.000 So, There's something to like if it's a USATF, so United States of America Track and Field Association, if it's one of those events and it's for like a world championship or it's for like a team position, I get it.
02:21:06.000 And it does need to be for the Eugene Marathon with 9,000 people.
02:21:10.000 It's not realistic to say we're going to drug test everybody, or if you're taking whatever, you need a therapeutic use exemption because do you think USADA could?
02:21:21.000 Review, say if people are taking three or four different medications times 9,000, they don't have the resource to go through all those TUEs, right?
02:21:29.000 It's not realistic.
02:21:30.000 So, there should be, in my opinion, two categories.
02:21:34.000 You got your regular runners, which I'm in, and you got your elites, which are susceptible to this drug testing and these requirements.
02:21:41.000 And that's totally fair.
02:21:43.000 And I get that.
02:21:44.000 And it's kind of why I've waded into this and said, I'll be the poster boy for this.
02:21:48.000 I'll admit that I took BPC 157 to try to avoid surgery on my foot.
02:21:54.000 Two years ago.
02:21:55.000 And whatever the fallout, right.
02:21:56.000 Whatever the fallout is, is what it is because this needs to be discussed.
02:21:59.000 Because I talk to all these regular people who are doing all this stuff just to be healthy, to enjoy something that they love, which is running or competing in races.
02:22:08.000 And everybody, like on the other side, on, you know, say the clean sport side, which I am on that side too.
02:22:15.000 Trust me, I want clean sport.
02:22:18.000 But they're like saying that, like, my time was so fast.
02:22:23.000 It's almost into this, they talk about this age graded thing where, Like this guy who brought it up said, age graded.
02:22:29.000 Like, so what that I think is what that looks at is like in my prime.
02:22:33.000 If I ran a 239 at age 58, what was my potential when I was in my prime?
02:22:39.000 And it would be super fast, like, you know, like we're like 210 or 212, which would have won the Olympics back when I was 25.
02:22:39.000 Right.
02:22:48.000 You know what I mean?
02:22:49.000 So I understand why my time is just like I'm almost too fast as a regular citizen to kind of like this gray area, like.
02:23:02.000 Should he be tested or whatever?
02:23:04.000 But all I'm saying, like, if the rule is to test, or if I know the rules, I'm down, dude.
02:23:11.000 I'm all for it.
02:23:12.000 That's why I've been so transparent about what I've taken, what I've done, and what I was trying to avoid with the surgery.
02:23:17.000 But it's also an important point.
02:23:18.000 I'm not hiding anything.
02:23:19.000 There's an important point about the sign up thing for the Eugene Marathon.
02:23:25.000 If you're supposed to not take certain supplements, that's supposed to be stated in the marathon sign up, right?
02:23:32.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:23:32.000 And it's not.
02:23:33.000 Yeah, and I don't, I've never, I hardly look at that, but there's now after all this, I looked at the waivers because, you know, USADA has been, they sent me two really nice emails, just lovely emails that I haven't responded to.
02:23:46.000 Um, And they're trying to do the best they can, but if these waivers say, I looked at the waiver for, I did two races this year, the Eugene Marathon and Cocodona 250, and the waivers mention liability and insurance things.
02:24:02.000 It doesn't mention anything about USATF or drug testing or any of these requirements.
02:24:08.000 There's no mention of it.
02:24:09.000 But it's also what the thing that doesn't make any sense is first of all, BPC 157 is not a performance enhancing substance.
02:24:18.000 Yeah, what?
02:24:19.000 It helps heal soft tissue injuries.
02:24:21.000 It's very good for recovery from injuries.
02:24:24.000 That's one issue. 0.99
02:24:24.000 The other issue is it was two fucking years ago. 0.99
02:24:27.000 There's no way that's affecting you in this year's Eugene Marathon. 0.99
02:24:31.000 That is long out of your system.
02:24:33.000 It's a smokescreen.
02:24:34.000 You know, we've talked about smokescreens here.
02:24:36.000 Well, what he's doing is basically he's accusing you because you took BPC 157, and he's saying you're lying about doing all these other things. 0.98
02:24:43.000 I've been called a liar, a cheater, a doper, stealing. 0.91
02:24:48.000 It's like. 0.97
02:24:49.000 Yeah, but it's all fine.
02:24:50.000 But this is essentially what we were talking about earlier.
02:24:53.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:24:53.000 We were talking about earlier about people that are outliers that are like super successful and they'd be like, fuck that guy, that guy cheats, that guy this, that guy that. 0.99
02:25:00.000 Same fucking thing. 1.00
02:25:00.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:25:01.000 This guy can't appreciate that. 0.99
02:25:02.000 Here's a guy who was running a fucking marathon a day while working an eight hour job. 0.98
02:25:06.000 I was your friend then. 0.99
02:25:09.000 Yeah.
02:25:09.000 This is real.
02:25:10.000 I know you did this.
02:25:11.000 I was always telling you to quit your job.
02:25:13.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:25:14.000 I was the first guy telling you, quit that fucking job. 1.00
02:25:17.000 You're killing yourself. 1.00
02:25:18.000 I was worried about you because I know that your mind is so strong that you are willing to push your body to the point where it could. 0.91
02:25:26.000 Actually, fail.
02:25:27.000 And willpower is really important.
02:25:32.000 Having a strong will will get you through so much in life that other people will not be able to pass.
02:25:40.000 They will not be able to break through.
02:25:42.000 But will could also get you killed, you know, and it could also ruin your life.
02:25:47.000 You could hurt yourself to the point, you know, you hurt your back or something to the point where you never recover.
02:25:51.000 It never comes back.
02:25:51.000 Like you have to, there's like a fine line between mental toughness and just being able to see the big picture and go, it's actually smart.
02:26:00.000 To not be tough here.
02:26:01.000 And it's not to deny my toughness.
02:26:04.000 I got to know that I am tough and have confidence in my toughness enough to give my body a break and rest myself. 0.99
02:26:11.000 That's why I was always worried about you because you were doing things with no fucking sleep. 0.98
02:26:15.000 And I saw it. 0.99
02:26:16.000 I know you did it.
02:26:17.000 I watched.
02:26:18.000 That guy's not doing this.
02:26:19.000 And you have to understand that the kind of willpower that a guy like you has or a guy like Goggins has where they can do things where people go, no one could do that. 1.00
02:26:27.000 The fuck they can't. 0.98
02:26:28.000 Like, how many UFC fighters have you seen go and train with Goggins and they're like, Israel Adesanya. 1.00
02:26:33.000 World champion, world class guy. 0.99
02:26:35.000 Throwing up at a fucking garbage can, can't keep up with him. 1.00
02:26:38.000 Tony Ferguson, who is known in the MMA world for fucking superhuman endurance. 1.00
02:26:44.000 Tony Ferguson would just walk people down in his prime. 0.98
02:26:47.000 He was El Kikui. 1.00
02:26:49.000 He was the fucking boogeyman. 1.00
02:26:50.000 Because he never got tired. 1.00
02:26:52.000 And even if you heard him, it didn't matter.
02:26:53.000 He was going to recover and come back after you. 1.00
02:26:55.000 He was coming for your fucking soul. 1.00
02:26:58.000 That guy was breaking down. 1.00
02:26:59.000 Everybody breaks down.
02:27:00.000 And he's doing it in silence.
02:27:03.000 No one even knows.
02:27:04.000 He's doing it with no music.
02:27:05.000 He's doing it by himself.
02:27:06.000 No one's pushing him. 1.00
02:27:08.000 He's a fucking full on psychopath. 1.00
02:27:10.000 They are real. 1.00
02:27:11.000 There's real people out there that are really living like that.
02:27:15.000 This guy should look at that and take inspiration from it. 1.00
02:27:18.000 But he's got these ideological differences with you because he's a vegan and because he thinks hunting is cruel and you're an asshole and you're killing animals. 1.00
02:27:26.000 And meanwhile, he needs to eat one of them fucking bear sticks. 1.00
02:27:29.000 They're fucking delicious. 1.00
02:27:30.000 Give me another one. 1.00
02:27:32.000 I want another one. 0.99
02:27:33.000 Fucking awesome. 0.97
02:27:34.000 They're great. 0.99
02:27:35.000 But it's just what we're talking about.
02:27:38.000 It's if you and that guy actually had a conversation.
02:27:41.000 Thank you.
02:27:42.000 If you and that guy actually had a conversation and you were civil and there was no cameras and it was just two human beings having a conversation, I guarantee you probably have way more in common than you do not.
02:27:56.000 Outside of the ideological differences about hunting and veganism and maybe a lack of understanding about what even veganism entails, because most of it entails large scale monocrop agriculture. 0.97
02:28:09.000 If you're just buying plants, you are responsible for the death of a fucking Countless number of creatures. 0.96
02:28:16.000 Fact, end of story. 0.99
02:28:16.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:28:18.000 Especially if you start talking about bees and avocados and almonds.
02:28:22.000 Oh, I'm eating almonds.
02:28:23.000 I'm healthy. 1.00
02:28:24.000 You fucking killed a hundred billion bees. 1.00
02:28:26.000 Stop. 1.00
02:28:26.000 All right. 1.00
02:28:27.000 Yeah.
02:28:29.000 Outside of that, what are you both doing?
02:28:31.000 You're both pushing yourself to the limits of your ability.
02:28:35.000 And maybe if that guy had a bear stick or two and had some real protein, he'd have a better time.
02:28:40.000 Well, I mean, that's true too, right?
02:28:42.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:28:43.000 I need some real fucking protein. 0.99
02:28:45.000 I am friends with a lot of people just like him in belief. 0.99
02:28:49.000 And like on the political spectrum or even the diet spectrum.
02:28:52.000 And I, it hasn't affected our friendship at all because what I focus on is what do we have in common?
02:28:58.000 We love the mountains.
02:28:59.000 We love to run.
02:29:00.000 We love to push ourselves.
02:29:01.000 I don't need to align with everybody 100%.
02:29:04.000 So I'm, I'm friends with tons of liberal people and love them.
02:29:09.000 It's like has nothing to do with anything.
02:29:12.000 It's, uh, but for, for him, you know, I was on the radar for a few different reasons.
02:29:17.000 This gave him like the reason why, like, BPC 157 is banned for Olympians, not for a regular person.
02:29:27.000 Regular people can take it.
02:29:28.000 So I'm just like, he's like, Do you know what the rules are? 0.98
02:29:31.000 And I'm like, I don't give a fuck about the rules. 0.97
02:29:34.000 So then he turned that into like, He doesn't care about the rules. 0.98
02:29:37.000 He's going to do anything he wants.
02:29:39.000 I'm like, No, I don't care about rules that don't apply to me.
02:29:42.000 I'm just like, whatever.
02:29:44.000 So the rules that apply to me are this rule.
02:29:48.000 And it's like, if you want to talk about rules, I follow rules.
02:29:51.000 Like I talked about purchasing, you know, when I was a The buyer at my old job for 20 years, I had to go by laws and rules every day.
02:30:01.000 And so I respect that if it has to do with me, if it affects me, I'm like, okay, I understand it.
02:30:07.000 Well, this one, you start bringing up these USATF sanctions and what I need to know when I sign a waiver for a race and I look at the waiver and the waiver doesn't mention anything about this.
02:30:18.000 This says if the USTF sanctioned event is, you know, if we're talking drug testing, it says, Related published materials must contain the following language.
02:30:30.000 So when I see that it says that must contain the following language, in my contract days, I'm like, well, that didn't say should or didn't say may, because should and may means it doesn't have to.
02:30:45.000 Right.
02:30:46.000 When it says must, it must.
02:30:49.000 So it says it must say this athlete who participate in this competition may be.
02:30:56.000 Objected to formal drug testing in accordance with you, blah, blah, blah, blah.
02:31:00.000 So basically, it has to have this language and it has to spell out exactly what it is.
02:31:06.000 Their rules, their own rules say it must be included.
02:31:10.000 I've never seen this language.
02:31:11.000 It was never included in anything that I've agreed to in regard to these races.
02:31:15.000 So there's no responsibility to go to the website and find out what the standards are.
02:31:20.000 It's just the waiver.
02:31:21.000 Even if they had a link.
02:31:23.000 So if they said, if you are going to race, you must be held to the standards of this race, you can go visit them on this website.
02:31:23.000 Okay, right.
02:31:30.000 I would be like, oh, that was my bad.
02:31:30.000 That's fine.
02:31:32.000 I didn't do that.
02:31:33.000 They never mentioned it.
02:31:34.000 So if somebody said, I didn't know BPC was banned for Olympians at all before this.
02:31:40.000 I just thought that it was another, maybe you could get a TUE for, or I didn't even know what TUE was.
02:31:45.000 But because I just, it's not my world.
02:31:49.000 My world is bow hunting.
02:31:50.000 I just try to get in as good shape as I can.
02:31:52.000 You're not trying to do it for money.
02:31:53.000 You're just doing it to be successful.
02:31:54.000 I've never won money.
02:31:55.000 I've never been on a national team.
02:31:58.000 If I wanted to be, if that was what I was going to do, I would know everything about the rules, everything about what I could take or what I couldn't take.
02:32:05.000 I mean, you can't take THC.
02:32:08.000 You know, I mean, they say you can take it, but not on the day of competition.
02:32:12.000 So you know how long THC is in your system.
02:32:15.000 So you took it the day before, but you didn't, but you're still going to test hospital.
02:32:15.000 Yeah.
02:32:18.000 You're still going to run high.
02:32:19.000 Yeah.
02:32:20.000 But, but as long as that lasts in your system, how are they going to prove if you took it that morning?
02:32:25.000 Well, they would have to be able to test your levels right after you race and they could determine whether or not you were actually intoxicated during the race.
02:32:33.000 That's how Nick Diaz got popped.
02:32:35.000 Oh, really?
02:32:36.000 Takanori Gomi. 1.00
02:32:37.000 They said his fucking levels were off the charts. 0.99
02:32:40.000 And that was, you saw it probably. 1.00
02:32:42.000 I don't believe it was.
02:32:44.000 I believe that was, I think that was pride and I think it was the first time that.
02:32:48.000 Pride had an event in the United States and they had it in Vegas, I believe.
02:32:52.000 See if that's right.
02:32:54.000 It was a long time ago.
02:32:55.000 I want to say this is, God, I want to say like 2005.
02:32:59.000 It was a big win when Nick beat Takanori Gomi.
02:33:03.000 Takanori Gomi was one of the big stars over in Pride.
02:33:06.000 And Nick, he got him with a Go Go Plata, which is a crazy submission off your back where you use the shin against the guy's neck and you're grabbing your foot from behind his head.
02:33:15.000 And it's nasty.
02:33:17.000 But they said he was off the charts. 0.99
02:33:19.000 The same size as a kite when he was fighting, which I fucking love. 0.98
02:33:23.000 Yeah. 0.96
02:33:24.000 But you're not allowed to do that.
02:33:25.000 And I think for good reasons, I don't think you should be allowed.
02:33:28.000 But look, the reality of these drug tests is that if you're saying to a person that you can't take it the day of the competition, and they're a regular user, they're going to have a lot of THC in their system.
02:33:47.000 They just are.
02:33:47.000 Right.
02:33:48.000 And also, you could take a very high dose of edibles.
02:33:52.000 The day before a race, and you would still be intoxicated the day of the race.
02:33:58.000 So, what year was this?
02:34:02.000 Apparently, the commission felt the level which Diaz tested at 175 was a considering factor in his performance during the fight.
02:34:09.000 Dr. Tony Alamo, the commission's chair, said that.
02:34:12.000 So, it was Nevada.
02:34:13.000 A result of 15 is considered positive.
02:34:18.000 But the Nevada State Athletic Commission has a threshold of 50 test positive for THC.
02:34:22.000 They feel very comfortable that everybody that tests positive in Nevada is truly positive.
02:34:27.000 Mr. Diaz was 175.
02:34:29.000 This creates a unique situation.
02:34:31.000 I was there at the fight.
02:34:32.000 I believe you were intoxicated and that it made you numb to the pain.
02:34:36.000 Did it help you win?
02:34:37.000 I think it did.
02:34:39.000 I don't, you know, listen, Diaz is going to be numb to the pain anyway. 0.99
02:34:43.000 He's one of the toughest fucking dudes that's ever lived. 0.98
02:34:45.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:34:46.000 I don't know if you can make that argument that it helped you win.
02:34:49.000 I think it probably relaxed him.
02:34:51.000 He likes it.
02:34:52.000 He, you know, he probably could go out there high and fight more in his element, but he could fight in his element anyway.
02:34:57.000 So, He was one of the best fighters on earth at the time.
02:35:00.000 He's a world class fighter.
02:35:02.000 The idea that that helped him win is like, yeah, prove it.
02:35:05.000 It's a stretch.
02:35:05.000 He was beating everybody anyway.
02:35:07.000 It's a stretch.
02:35:08.000 It's like, I just don't think that we need to be opening the Pandora's box to testing 9,000 people or having them, you know, like. 0.60
02:35:15.000 Well, it's also be realistic about what you're saying because what you're saying is if all you did was take that drug, it's not even a drug, take that peptide in 2024 for a broken foot, there's no fucking chance that helped you win a marathon two years later.
02:35:35.000 It does not help other than the fact that it helped to heal your broken foot.
02:35:40.000 That's not.
02:35:41.000 Performance enhancing.
02:35:42.000 It's not.
02:35:43.000 This guy's kind of a hater.
02:35:44.000 Not even kind of.
02:35:45.000 He's a hater.
02:35:47.000 Which I understand.
02:35:48.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:35:48.000 I mean, I admitted that I took it.
02:35:50.000 And it's like, at that, and actually that night, I remember, I didn't even know when that was. 0.87
02:35:56.000 I fucking can't remember when I went to waste well.
02:36:00.000 I was like, I thought it was like six months ago. 0.99
02:36:02.000 I couldn't even fucking remember. 0.85
02:36:04.000 So then I got a hold of him. 0.93
02:36:05.000 I said, no, I need the details of my treatment.
02:36:08.000 And it was in November of 2024.
02:36:10.000 And I'm like, okay.
02:36:12.000 But anyway, that night I said, yeah, I've done stem cell.
02:36:16.000 I've done TRT before and mentioned BPC 157. 0.99
02:36:20.000 And it's like, I didn't know when that was, but I just kind of, because he was like coming at me, I'm just like, no, fuck off. 0.99
02:36:26.000 It's like, I do all this. 0.99
02:36:27.000 I don't know whether it's approved or not.
02:36:28.000 It has nothing to do with me.
02:36:29.000 I'm not an elite athlete. 0.99
02:36:31.000 I'm a fucking bow hunter. 1.00
02:36:32.000 So I was like, kind of wanted to just shit on him at that time. 0.99
02:36:38.000 Well, he got what he needed because admitting to taking BPC for like Olympian is a huge deal because it's banned. 0.96
02:36:47.000 Just for them, not for me.
02:36:49.000 And that, then he could go to USAID and say, oh, this guy took a ban. 0.97
02:36:53.000 And they're, you know, now they're like, it sucks.
02:36:56.000 It's like they're in a position where, I don't know, it's just like so much, the public knows about it so much. 0.99
02:37:02.000 It's like, you know, I got articles about me and talking about all this crazy shit. 0.97
02:37:07.000 And I'm just like, I was just trying to not have two or three surgeries. 0.98
02:37:11.000 It's just like, I'm not trying to win a fucking, my age category of marathon. 0.93
02:37:17.000 And then they'll turn it into like, well, that's not fair to the other people who are, are, Performing clean. 0.96
02:37:23.000 I was just like, it's not, we don't even know who's what people are taking.
02:37:27.000 I was like, I'm not even in this field of this elite field where this is all I did was admit I was truthful.
02:37:34.000 Everybody else just lies.
02:37:36.000 Yeah, well, maybe, maybe lies, maybe doesn't.
02:37:39.000 But the point is a giant percentage of people right now are taking peptides because they're very beneficial to help heal injuries.
02:37:46.000 And if you're going to run marathons like the way you run them with very fast times, you're probably training really hard.
02:37:53.000 If you're training really hard, you're probably going to get injured.
02:37:55.000 Yeah, it's just, but it's a hater thing, is what it is.
02:37:55.000 Yeah.
02:37:59.000 Or he's accusing you of lying, which I know you're not a liar.
02:38:03.000 So this is the thing.
02:38:04.000 He's attacking your character, but it's also the fact that, you know, that quote that I love all criticism is the tragic result of unmet needs.
02:38:15.000 This guy's an elite athlete.
02:38:16.000 No one knows who he is.
02:38:17.000 You know, that's part of the problem.
02:38:17.000 Yeah.
02:38:18.000 Yeah.
02:38:19.000 And then when someone who's very popular is creeping in on his times, like, that's like, how?
02:38:24.000 How's that possible?
02:38:25.000 He's 18 years older than me. 1.00
02:38:26.000 Fuck this guy. 1.00
02:38:27.000 No one ever wants to think that someone actually works harder than them. 1.00
02:38:29.000 No, no.
02:38:30.000 Or, yeah, I mean, and I get that.
02:38:32.000 I mean, I'm a human too.
02:38:34.000 I understand how that can happen.
02:38:36.000 But, like, to call me, like, a doper trying to discredit everything I've done, it's just like, it's so not even real.
02:38:46.000 The approach to use is to just be honest, lay it all out, and leave it alone.
02:38:52.000 Yeah. 0.97
02:38:53.000 I don't think, like, going after this guy and talking a lot of shit is in any way beneficial. 0.63
02:38:58.000 I don't want, I want him, I want, Everyone to succeed. 0.94
02:39:01.000 I don't have anything personal against this guy. 0.98
02:39:03.000 I didn't like he was talking shit about Truett. 0.95
02:39:06.000 But even that, it's just Hater Aid. 0.99
02:39:08.000 He just sees Truett running with those fucking perfect jeans on and looking all handsome. 0.99
02:39:14.000 He's also a little too buff to be a marathon runner, which drives people nuts, too. 0.99
02:39:17.000 Yeah.
02:39:18.000 And then he also won the World Pull Up Challenge. 0.98
02:39:20.000 Like, look, when someone breaks the world record at pull ups, that isn't a fucking extraordinary human being, period. 1.00
02:39:26.000 And for you to discredit that person in marathon running after they've done that, well, you're a fool. 0.99
02:39:31.000 Because this isn't just a regular person, right? 0.99
02:39:31.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:39:33.000 This is a person who broke the world fucking record. 0.99
02:39:36.000 For chin ups or pull ups. 0.99
02:39:38.000 Yeah.
02:39:38.000 That's a crazy thing to do.
02:39:40.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:39:41.000 To do thousands of pull ups in 24 hours, rip your fucking hands to shreds. 1.00
02:39:47.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:39:47.000 That's an extraordinary person. 1.00
02:39:49.000 For him to not recognize that, he's being a bitch. 1.00
02:39:53.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:39:54.000 Which is fine.
02:39:54.000 It's a natural characteristic that a lot of human beings have.
02:39:57.000 Yeah.
02:39:58.000 And especially ones that are not getting their needs met in terms of the attention they feel they deserve and who are ideologically opposed to you because you're a hunter.
02:40:06.000 What the traction he's got is because it's almost like, If you say, you know how some people would say, Oh, you're interested in border security, like protecting the border.
02:40:16.000 Racist. 0.97
02:40:18.000 Racist. 0.99
02:40:18.000 Right, right. 0.99
02:40:19.000 You're a Nazi. 1.00
02:40:20.000 Right, you're a cheater. 1.00
02:40:21.000 So to say that I'm a cheater or a doper, you don't have to say anything else because then it's like, Oh, that guy. 0.96
02:40:26.000 So now I'm kind of tainted by that language.
02:40:30.000 When the fact of the matter is, this is years ago. 0.97
02:40:33.000 I don't take any, I mean, I take plenty like fish oil, magnesium, all this other bullshit Trace gives me. 0.98
02:40:41.000 But Like the level of doping I know about, I don't know shit. 0.97
02:40:46.000 I don't even, I don't know EP.
02:40:48.000 I know we've talked about this before, but I don't even know really what EPO does other than make like more red blood cells or something.
02:40:54.000 So there's more oxygen.
02:40:55.000 But I'm so like illiterate on performance and like PEDs.
02:41:02.000 I'm just like, I don't, I don't even take testosterone anymore because I run better low, which is weird.
02:41:11.000 And I didn't know if this happened because.
02:41:14.000 They say when you run like long distances, like extreme long distances, your testosterone drops. 0.99
02:41:20.000 I almost think that's by design because I look at like how these women have been performing at these huge races with low testosterone and higher estrogen, they perform better. 0.98
02:41:29.000 And so I'm just like, man, maybe I don't need the TRT. 0.86
02:41:33.000 Maybe.
02:41:34.000 And so I haven't, like, I had, I had, I got a prescription filled like last September and I still have four of the things out of 10.
02:41:43.000 And, Anybody who's a doper, they don't got dope sitting around. 0.98
02:41:48.000 Like if you had, you know, I don't care if it's meth or fucking testosterone, if you have it, you take it if you're a doper, right? 0.99
02:41:55.000 So I haven't done it because I operate better with a low heart rate, low testosterone, and I can run. 0.98
02:42:03.000 But low body weight too.
02:42:04.000 That's a big factor.
02:42:05.000 Yeah, I'm like 148 is what I got down to when I got.
02:42:08.000 What are you right now?
02:42:09.000 Like 52.
02:42:10.000 Wow.
02:42:11.000 When I met you, you were in the 80s.
02:42:14.000 Yeah, I was just lifting.
02:42:15.000 I just, I always ran, but I'd run like five miles a day.
02:42:18.000 And I wanted to be like, I thought, like, for hunting, I needed more muscle to perform because I need to carry heavy loads and things like that.
02:42:26.000 Now I've realized that I'm better with extreme endurance and I'm still strong for like 148, still very strong compared to like a normal 148.
02:42:38.000 So I'm still able to do the task I need to do, carry heavy loads when I kill.
02:42:43.000 You've optimized.
02:42:44.000 So, well, the big factor is the weight because I'm pretty heavy.
02:42:44.000 Yeah.
02:42:48.000 And I notice the difference.
02:42:48.000 Yeah.
02:42:50.000 You know, like I've lost.
02:42:53.000 When I hunted a few years back, I got down to the 190s, early 192 or 193, and I felt way lighter.
02:43:00.000 Yeah.
02:43:01.000 Like you would think 10 pounds because right now I weighed 202 this morning.
02:43:05.000 You would think 10 pounds is not that big of a deal.
02:43:07.000 It's a big deal.
02:43:08.000 When I work out and I put a 25 pound weight vest on, it's amazing how much harder it is to do chin ups and push ups and dips.
02:43:08.000 Yeah, it's a big deal.
02:43:16.000 It's amazing.
02:43:16.000 Yeah.
02:43:17.000 And it's only 25 pounds.
02:43:18.000 Yeah, no, it's not.
02:43:18.000 And you think about how many people just normally carry 25 extra pounds.
02:43:23.000 You're walking around all day with a weight vest on, you know?
02:43:26.000 Well, and I've told True at this too.
02:43:28.000 It's like he's heavier, but every guy lining up to run the, the, Olympic trials qualifier, or like when they run the Olympic trials for the marathon, there won't be anybody over like 140.
02:43:40.000 So I said, Which totally makes sense.
02:43:43.000 You're fighting gravity.
02:43:44.000 I mean, you got to be light.
02:43:44.000 Yeah.
02:43:45.000 Yeah.
02:43:45.000 So I said, You can't be 160 and compete.
02:43:48.000 What is he at now?
02:43:49.000 He's like 58.
02:43:52.000 And what is he trying to get down to?
02:43:53.000 He's got to be in the 40s.
02:43:54.000 Got to be like 140 to be good.
02:43:56.000 Oh, God.
02:43:56.000 He's going to look like Skeletor.
02:43:58.000 The guy who I just ran with, who ran Eugene and set the course record and all that, he's 135.
02:44:04.000 He's probably like 6'1.
02:44:06.000 Whoa.
02:44:07.000 That's just the name of the game.
02:44:08.000 Right. 1.00
02:44:08.000 Like the East African's super light. 1.00
02:44:10.000 The guy who just broke the world record in the marathon is like 135, or no, no, 115. 0.52
02:44:16.000 Jeez.
02:44:17.000 Tiny little guy.
02:44:18.000 So it's like.
02:44:19.000 Makes sense.
02:44:20.000 That's just performance.
02:44:21.000 Right.
02:44:21.000 That's just what it takes.
02:44:22.000 A huge engine, a light body.
02:44:24.000 Right.
02:44:25.000 And so, like, to paint me this way when I was turned invited to surgery, haven't taken BPC since then, it's just.
02:44:37.000 It's kind of just.
02:44:38.000 I think all you can do is state your case, and I think you just did, and you just did it really well.
02:44:42.000 And I know you, and I can speak for you.
02:44:44.000 You are as honest a human being as I've ever met in my life.
02:44:47.000 You don't lie about anything.
02:44:49.000 And you are.
02:44:51.000 And it's also why you work so hard.
02:44:52.000 You work so hard so you don't have to lie.
02:44:54.000 I mean, you're an insanely hard worker.
02:44:57.000 I didn't lie about this either.
02:44:58.000 I mean, that's what.
02:44:59.000 I just said, yeah, I did.
02:45:00.000 I didn't remember when, but looked it up.
02:45:02.000 Here's when it was.
02:45:04.000 Whatever.
02:45:04.000 You know, this guy's got to get over it.
02:45:06.000 Maybe you should have a conversation with him on Keep Hammer and Collective.
02:45:08.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't.
02:45:10.000 I would talk to.
02:45:11.000 Talk to anybody.
02:45:12.000 I don't, you know, I talk to people who feel differently than me all the time.
02:45:16.000 People, there's also a problem where people don't know someone and they don't communicate with them.
02:45:21.000 And so you kind of form a narrative and then you fight that narrative.
02:45:25.000 You know, you attack that narrative.
02:45:26.000 You attack a creation of who the person is rather than the actual person.
02:45:31.000 And people like to do that because they like to turn someone into a demon.
02:45:34.000 Yeah.
02:45:34.000 They like to turn someone to not even a person.
02:45:37.000 That's how people have to do that with war.
02:45:38.000 They love to do that with religion.
02:45:40.000 It's easy to garner support.
02:45:42.000 With keywords, using keywords that nobody could defend would be like, okay, we got that, that'll work right there.
02:45:50.000 And so that's where, you know, the Nazi or the doper, the racist, that's why those words are always out there.
02:45:57.000 It's like because they're powerful.
02:45:57.000 Yep.
02:45:58.000 Exactly.
02:45:59.000 That's exactly.
02:46:01.000 And when you get boxed in a corner, you can use those words and it buys you some time.
02:46:05.000 Yeah, there's that.
02:46:07.000 And then there's also, you know, there's a lot of people that don't have good personal insight, they don't understand what they're doing.
02:46:14.000 Really, they think they're justified in what they're doing. 0.99
02:46:16.000 Really, it's just a bunch of bitchy bullshit. 0.97
02:46:19.000 One thing that I did, I think part of this, I don't want to be demonized about like with the peptides because it shouldn't be demonized. 0.98
02:46:26.000 But one thing I think a lot of people, because as you said, a lot of people are taking these peptides, a lot of people are doing the TRT stuff.
02:46:35.000 I think that there was a big shift when COVID happened as far as distrust in the health.
02:46:43.000 I mean, basically, our health and wellness.
02:46:46.000 Category.
02:46:47.000 Like it started maybe with Obamacare.
02:46:50.000 People are having trouble getting in their doctor.
02:46:52.000 Doctors quit because it's too frustrating.
02:46:54.000 So, people, we've had a hard time getting medical treatment, like to be healthy.
02:46:58.000 And then COVID happened, and then they were shoving down, you know, the vaccine down our throats, and turned out like it wasn't as safe and effective as they said.
02:47:05.000 So, I think people, like, they see that the writing was on the wall.
02:47:08.000 They couldn't get in their doctor.
02:47:10.000 The doctor was like just writing prescriptions.
02:47:12.000 So, then the wellness clinics popped up, right?
02:47:16.000 And it feels like it was after COVID for now, like you got a ways to well, and there's other places like it where you can go in and they care about how you feel.
02:47:24.000 They want you to, they want to help you feel better, like live like an optimized life, like, You're old, but you don't have to feel old.
02:47:31.000 And so they're like, they can do the blood panel where getting a blood panel at your regular doctor was like pulling teeth for a while.
02:47:37.000 It's like, no, we don't need to do that.
02:47:39.000 But you go to a wellness clinic, they'll do it and they'll tell you, yeah, you're deficient here, this, this, that.
02:47:44.000 We could add this, we could try this.
02:47:46.000 And then all of a sudden you start to feel better and you're like, well, these people care about my health.
02:47:51.000 The doctor, what'd he care about?
02:47:52.000 Writing prescriptions.
02:47:53.000 And then the doctors, they're playing a totally different game, as we could see from that hospital video that we just watched.
02:47:59.000 Right.
02:47:59.000 So it's no wonder that waste to well is.
02:48:02.000 And like these other treatments, maybe bypassing surgery and let's try this peptide.
02:48:09.000 I see that it's kind of evolving and it's changing.
02:48:12.000 And the sport of ultra needs to also, and running needs to be on board with that because most of your field aren't elites and aren't Olympians.
02:48:21.000 Right.
02:48:22.000 They're regular people who just are trying to do what they enjoy.
02:48:24.000 And that's me.
02:48:25.000 While they're working a full time job, most of them.
02:48:27.000 Yeah.
02:48:28.000 Well, I think you laid your case out and I got to pee.
02:48:30.000 Yeah.
02:48:30.000 So let's wrap this bad boy up and bring it home.
02:48:33.000 Congratulations on your bear hunt.
02:48:35.000 You got two giant monsters.
02:48:37.000 Oh, yeah.
02:48:37.000 We got John and Jen.
02:48:39.000 Shout out to John and Jen Rivet.
02:48:39.000 Yeah.
02:48:41.000 Yeah.
02:48:41.000 I'm going to try to come next year, I swear.
02:48:43.000 Love those guys.
02:48:44.000 Love those guys.
02:48:46.000 I love that place they have up there, too.
02:48:47.000 It's crazy.
02:48:48.000 And for people who don't know, these bear have no natural predators other than grizzlies.
02:48:55.000 They have to be controlled.
02:48:56.000 They are devastating the moose and deer and elk population up there because they kill all the calves.
02:49:03.000 They're ruthless predators, opportunistic hunters.
02:49:06.000 They eat each other.
02:49:07.000 Just to put that in perspective, In Alaska, they're flying out of helicopters shooting bear.
02:49:13.000 Because there's so many of them.
02:49:13.000 Yeah.
02:49:14.000 Not enough are getting killed. 1.00
02:49:16.000 So they wipe out all the ungulates. 1.00
02:49:17.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:49:18.000 So it's like, it's an issue.
02:49:19.000 You just don't know about it.
02:49:21.000 People don't know that Alaska is flying in helicopters, leaving bear after they kill them.
02:49:25.000 I know.
02:49:25.000 And everybody thinks of bears as yogi, yogi and boo boo.
02:49:28.000 And, you know, come for a trip.
02:49:31.000 Take a trip to Alberta. 1.00
02:49:32.000 I'll show you some real shit. 1.00
02:49:35.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:49:35.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:49:36.000 I remember when, you know, I've told the story, you know, Jen and I ran into a grizzly once when we were out there, just briefly.
02:49:36.000 I know.
02:49:42.000 We only saw it. 0.86
02:49:43.000 Briefly, we're like, let's get the fuck out of here. 0.52
02:49:46.000 Yeah, they don't even hunt over there anymore because too many grizzlies. 0.98
02:49:49.000 So that's like, that's crazy.
02:49:50.000 That's quite a ways from where we hunt now just because.
02:49:53.000 Isn't that crazy?
02:49:53.000 A grizzly starts coming in the bait.
02:49:55.000 Yeah, you got to get out of there.
02:49:56.000 Especially, I like to sit on the ground.
02:49:58.000 And they need to start hunting them up there too.
02:50:00.000 They do.
02:50:01.000 I know. 0.99
02:50:02.000 You know, this is when they changed that law in BC, they made it a fucking disaster up there. 0.98
02:50:06.000 There's so many grizzlies now. 0.96
02:50:08.000 And it's just the people that live in these high population areas that don't have any encounters with them.
02:50:08.000 Yeah.
02:50:14.000 And it's ballot box biology.
02:50:16.000 It's people that.
02:50:16.000 They're trying to be good people.
02:50:17.000 Do you want to outlaw trophy hunting? 1.00
02:50:19.000 Yeah, these cruel assholes. 1.00
02:50:20.000 They just want to shoot this animal for its skin. 1.00
02:50:23.000 Yeah, fuck them. 1.00
02:50:24.000 They just want to show what a big man they are by killing an animal. 1.00
02:50:27.000 That guy calls me a trophy hunter.
02:50:30.000 He's like, oh, I understand deer and elk hunting, but not bear.
02:50:33.000 Well, you don't know what you're talking about.
02:50:33.000 It's just like.
02:50:35.000 How is that bear we just ate?
02:50:36.000 How is that any different than deer and elk?
02:50:38.000 My daughter went to school one day and they were asking what your favorite food was.
02:50:42.000 And she said bear candy because Steve Ranella taught me a recipe called bear candy.
02:50:48.000 How to make this?
02:50:48.000 Like, it's like a you make it with brown sugar and you cook this bear, and it's like a sweet and sour pork kind of deal.
02:50:54.000 But with bear, it was fucking delicious. 0.98
02:50:56.000 And I served it for my kids. 0.98
02:50:58.000 And my daughter, I think she was just trying to like jostle people up a little bit.
02:51:03.000 I ate bear. 1.00
02:51:04.000 Well, Jen makes some badass bear stir fry.
02:51:07.000 Oh, it's fantastic. 0.88
02:51:08.000 I mean, I was like, her bear meat is fantastic.
02:51:10.000 I was just thinking to myself, Mountain Ops has those new freeze dried meals.
02:51:13.000 Maybe I need to get some, right? 0.97
02:51:15.000 Dehydrate it, get some bear meat in there.
02:51:17.000 Yeah, yeah, because those things are good.
02:51:20.000 He does it all in a dehydrator, then it rehydrates it and in camp.
02:51:23.000 He vacuum seals his own stuff.
02:51:25.000 Some of those meals, dude.
02:51:26.000 Yeah.
02:51:26.000 Well, it's the best way to do it, too, if you want to eat clean.
02:51:29.000 If you want to eat clean in the mountains, get a dehydrator.
02:51:32.000 For that energy, because just like in ultras and performing, what you're using for calories matters.
02:51:38.000 100%.
02:51:38.000 So, especially on a long hunt, if you can, like we had, I had some Mountain Ops freeze dried in there, like chicken Alfredo.
02:51:46.000 That's just fucking good calories. 0.98
02:51:48.000 100%. 0.99
02:51:49.000 And also, electrolytes.
02:51:51.000 Boy, it changed for me when I started using element, when I started throwing element in my water when I was out there.
02:51:57.000 Giant difference, yeah.
02:51:58.000 Get those electrolytes.
02:52:00.000 That's the first thing I drink in the morning.
02:52:01.000 Oh, is an element, yeah, because I know I'm because I run every day.
02:52:05.000 I know I think I've been also like low on sodium for a long time just because of how much I run for sure.
02:52:12.000 Like, I run so much, like, I get sores here because my shirt gets soaked with sweat, and wet clothes sitting on my skin has made all these sores from running for hours and in a wet shirt.
02:52:25.000 That's crazy.
02:52:26.000 And so, guys wear their nipples out, they have to put like that, yeah, that have I wear like a bra. 0.99
02:52:33.000 Well, it's like a little running pack, but it holds my shirt right there on my tits. 0.99
02:52:38.000 But this here bounces and it's like just being wet. 0.99
02:52:41.000 That's crazy.
02:52:42.000 It makes sores on your skin just from a t shirt.
02:52:45.000 It does, just from being warm.
02:52:46.000 Maybe you should start running in silk.
02:52:48.000 Just from being warm.
02:52:49.000 But I think that I was sweating so much that when I do that element first thing in the morning, it sets me up for the whole day to be able to perform at a higher level.
02:52:59.000 Yeah.
02:52:59.000 Even just some sea salt in your water.
02:53:02.000 You need minerals.
02:53:03.000 Everybody does need electrolytes.
02:53:06.000 All right.
02:53:07.000 Let's wrap it up.
02:53:07.000 Yep.
02:53:08.000 All right, bye.
02:53:08.000 My brother, I love you to death.
02:53:09.000 Love you too.
02:53:09.000 You were awesome.
02:53:10.000 Glad you had an opportunity to come on here.
02:53:12.000 And this is all very important stuff to talk about.
02:53:14.000 And one more time, that number for everybody.
02:53:16.000 I want to call that number.
02:53:17.000 I know.
02:53:19.000 Call your center 202 234 3121. 0.98
02:53:24.000 Say, roadless rule needs to stay intact. 1.00
02:53:26.000 Mike Lee can suck a big fat one. 1.00
02:53:29.000 America. 1.00
02:53:29.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
02:53:31.000 Bye, everybody. 1.00