00:00:49.000He fought so and so, and that's the same with me in horses.
00:00:51.000It's always so interesting to me how there's these different sort of categories of interests that people have that, you know, one person might not know anything.
00:00:59.000I don't know anything about horses, but you're like fucking balls deep.
00:05:36.000I think anybody's good at anything, anybody's good at anything is either ADHD or autistic.
00:05:42.000Yeah, they tried to give me medicine for the ADHD, did they?
00:05:46.000Yeah, I'm like, no, how old were you when they tried to give it to you?
00:05:50.000Oh, when I, well, they did give it to me when I was a kid, really?
00:05:52.000Yeah, what they gave you, and then you're who knows, but whatever, you're lobotomized, right?
00:05:56.000And then, and so I stopped taking it just because I was, you know, and so my parents were like, just let him run around, my neighbor's kid.
00:06:06.000They gave it to him when I lived in California.
00:06:41.000If I had the wrong parents, my parents wouldn't have done it, but if I had the wrong parents, 100% I had all the traits that would have allowed me to get unriddle in a riddle.
00:07:41.000And all day they're just fighting this desire to scream and just run out of the building and go do something fun.
00:07:48.000Wasn't the, like, essentially what we call the modern public education system founded by, or really by the Rockefellers as a means to create workers?
00:08:03.000It's one of the reasons why they decided to start school so early for kids the earlier you can start them, the more you can get them to do whatever you want them to do.
00:08:11.000And the more you can get them to pledge allegiance and get really excited about this, that, or the other thing, including all the trans stuff that you see in school, all the pride stuff.
00:08:20.000Teachers are working with preschool kids and they're talking about sexuality, and you're like, they're fucking six.
00:08:28.000Like, they don't know what you're talking about.
00:08:30.000Like, why are you even talking to them about that?
00:08:31.000Because you can get them early and you can program those thoughts into their mind that this is a good cause.
00:08:37.000And it could be anything, it could be your religion, it could be your political ideology, it could be being a Christian, being a Muslim, whatever.
00:08:45.000If you get kids young enough, you can talk them into doing almost anything.
00:09:00.000And, you know, what will really bake a couple of noodles is if you look at, because all these things are funded, all these nonprofits and NGOs, they're offered, but where's the money come from?
00:09:11.000And when you look at where the money comes from and you realize, oh, wait a minute.
00:09:15.000And it's been coming for 40, 50 years from these places.
00:09:18.000Qatar, for example, obviously Russia, China, all these are enemies.
00:09:24.000Donating money to all of these various groups to divide, to just eat away from the inside.
00:11:35.000Some guy was doing a breakdown of the people that work in the homeless industry, industry, I say in air quotes, in California, because that's really what it is.
00:11:44.000They spent $24 billion on the homeless problem, and no one can account for it.
00:11:50.000And they tried to get an accounting of it, they tried to do an audit of it, and Newsom vetoed it.
00:13:14.000It means no hunting, no fishing, no ranching, no agriculture, no animals that get harmed in any way, no killing chickens for Kentucky fried chicken, nothing.
00:16:51.000Oh, he's already gotten too much attention from us.
00:16:53.000Yeah, it's, uh, there's a lot of silly people in the world, and you know, like we were talking about with young people, if you get young people indoctrinated early enough to think These silly ideas make sense, which is one of the reasons why I love that Kevin Costner moment on your show when he had explained to that vegan lady.
00:17:13.000How cute does an animal have to be before you care if it lives?
00:17:16.000Yeah, and what the actual life gets killed when you're just talking about farming just food, plowing a field, yeah, just plowing a field or go build a road.
00:17:29.000Right, you want to destroy some organisms, go build a road, yeah.
00:17:34.000If you're riding on those roads, you're in that system.
00:18:29.000And it's one of the first domesticated plants.
00:18:33.000And what people realized, whoever, Homo sapiens or Neanderthals or whoever's wandering around, They're like the squirrels are eating those poisonous nuts from that tree.
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00:20:52.000We're taking almonds, pulverizing them, and brining them in water, essentially, leaching out the flavor of the almond and then adding a bunch of shit to it and sugar and water.
00:21:44.000Eating them can raise oxalate levels that circulate, get filtered by the kidneys, and appear in urine, which may increase kidney stone risk in susceptible people.
00:22:32.000Yeah, and that's apparently what causes a lot of kidney stones.
00:22:35.000With some folks, they drink a lot of those green smoothies, which I used to do every day.
00:22:39.000I used to take a bunch of kale, throw in a bunch of apples and some ginger and some garlic and blend it all up and drink at the beginning of the day.
00:22:57.000I'm like, fucking bacon's better for you?
00:22:59.000My journey of figuring out what to eat was a long one.
00:23:02.000It was a long one, and thank God I got this podcast because if I hadn't had all those conversations with people where I realized, like, oh, so we're like, and now the food pyramid's completely flipped, which is hilarious.
00:23:13.000But it's like I've had enough conversations where I realized, like, oh, all these people don't know what the fuck they're talking about and they're giving advice.
00:23:35.000It's like, how do we get people to eat our shit in the morning and then again at lunch?
00:23:39.000And then, well, the one thing that we can't control, and they talk about the one thing that we do not have is this massive industrialized meat production because.
00:24:22.000Right, it's more efficient to farm than it is to graze cattle.
00:24:24.000So, you only want to graze cattle somewhere that you can't farm at the end of the day.
00:24:28.000You want to graze cattle, they are great at taking protein from poor protein sources and metabolizing it.
00:24:35.000Right, so you graze them in real rocky terrain with native grasses that you can't farm, can't till it, just can't.
00:24:42.000Um, and it needs to be eaten by something or weeds will overtake it.
00:24:47.000Right, because grass grows better when it's being grazed.
00:24:52.000And so there's no way to industrialize that or centralize it.
00:24:56.000The most centralized it is is at the packing house, right, where you've got four major packing houses that control 90 something percent of the beef industry.
00:25:07.000COVID was extremely helpful for the smaller farmer and rancher to sit there and get their product out, right, and find small, they start popping up.
00:25:15.000People have opened these USDA facilities that don't process 800 head of cattle an hour.
00:25:26.000And now people can go there because they're a USDA facility.
00:25:29.000They can buy beef directly from them, buy it from the rancher, right?
00:25:33.000And you can control where your food's coming from, as opposed to what was happening where you'd get a bunch of, if you're going to go get a burger, you're eating some Australian killer bowl, right?
00:25:46.000For the most part, or something from Brazil.
00:25:50.000You're not eating something that you want to eat, right?
00:25:54.000When you go to a nice steakhouse, The stakes there are going to come from most likely Texas, Iowa, Nebraska, Montana.
00:26:07.000There's select areas where people are spending that kind of attention and time to raise that kind of quality of beef, right?
00:26:15.000And it's being done by smaller ranchers.
00:26:16.000It may be a big ranch, but it's still operated by relatively few people.
00:26:21.000You know, 46 is 300,000 acres, but there's 12 cowboys.
00:26:26.000Wow, 12 cowboys for 300,000 acres is nuts.
00:27:25.000You know what's really interesting about your shows, particularly Yellowstone, it got people really attracted to the idea of brutal hard work as being romantic.
00:27:36.000You know, people really identified with those guys on Yellowstone that were just so dedicated to that ranch, so dedicated to busting their ass and working all day long, hard fucking work, and then just hanging out together afterwards.
00:27:51.000And there's something about that life that's so simplistic and romantic to people that it just really resonated with so many people.
00:27:58.000They didn't even know that they liked that.
00:32:12.000It makes sense that it's streamlined because I've been on shows when they first start out and it's chaos and there's a lot of network involvement and there's a lot of bullshit.
00:32:21.000But then once it gets going, they go, Oh, you guys know what you're doing.
00:32:38.000It's an incredible accomplishment to have that many fucking shows and all of them be good and all of them be, you know, like very addictive.
00:33:05.000I went to Billy Bob before I wrote a word and I told him, I said, if you don't do this, I'm not going to do it because I'm not going to chase my tail.
00:34:06.000You sit down with any climatologist and any engineer, they're going to tell you our best hope for a replacement of petroleum fuels is cold fusion, and we're 30, 40 years from it being something that we can rely upon.
00:34:20.000And reduce little nuclear reactors, like itty bitties, like the size of this coffee pot.
00:36:18.000You're going to fly a bunch of SF dudes, drop them off on the roof of this high rise surrounded by the fucking Cuban special forces, and they're going to kill all of them.
00:36:26.000And then they're going to fucking snatch him and his wife, go back to the roof, and just fucking fly away.
00:37:29.000When asked for specific technical or operational details about how the device functions, Trump famously told the New York Post, I'm not allowed to talk about it.
00:39:20.000You know, this whole UAP world stuff, like when they start talking about UAPs, all of my bullshit alarms go off, all of them.
00:39:31.000It's like, I don't believe if you knew things you would tell us.
00:39:34.000So I don't believe you're telling us the truth.
00:39:38.000I think they have some special access programs that they've been working on for decades.
00:39:44.000Decades and decades in some super high level shit that involves some sort of novel propulsion system, and they have that stuff flying around in the sky.
00:39:54.000I think that's what a lot of people are seeing.
00:39:56.000That's what a lot of people are seeing.
00:39:58.000That doesn't discount the idea that there's something else out there because I think there is, but I think there's a giant chunk of the shit that people are seeing that's ours.
00:40:09.000If there was an intelligent life form that had stumbled upon our barbaric asses, Why would they not go, hey guys, fire up that fucking missile and take?
00:40:37.000And how many of the Ottoman Turks that got killed and his famous methods of putting people on posts.
00:40:45.000And separating them down the line on the road so that as these poor guys are traveling to go and fight him, they just see the enemy stuck on skewers and in geometric patterns and shit.
00:40:55.000He would do them in like stars and stuff.
00:41:54.000You got to give him a chance to become better.
00:41:57.000I think as a civilization, I would think the same thing would apply.
00:42:00.000You have to give this civilization time to evolve and adapt and get past where it's at right now.
00:42:07.000I don't think that you do that by intervening and grabbing us by the hand and showing us the way.
00:42:12.000I think what you do is you hang back and make sure that we don't nuke each other and just sort of pay attention.
00:42:20.000To all the different international ongoings and just let human beings slowly but surely evolve.
00:42:28.000That's what I would do if I was an intelligent life form observing people.
00:42:32.000The interesting thing that we're, as a civilization, facing now, and it's always happened in some capacity when a society gets wealthy, really wealthy, and people start to question wealth and how can we be more equitable.
00:42:48.000And it comes across like compassion, but it really comes down to a debate of.
00:45:32.000And not so much from the disease itself, but from our faith in the institutions around us, whether it's government, whether it's the media, whether it's pharmaceutical companies.
00:45:45.000And The way that it was manipulated to gain power for a political group and it was effective and so when something's effective then people just keep doing the same thing until it's no longer effective, right?
00:46:03.000We did that in our military with the wins, hearts, and minds, right?
00:47:04.000It doesn't – people are going to like presidents and dislike presidents.
00:47:08.000But now defying the rule of law because he happens to be the head of the federal government and openly defying the federal government, the repercussions of that are going to be, okay, fine, you can't stand this man.
00:47:26.000You think he's a terrible president and you're not going to follow his laws, but that's the new normal now.
00:47:32.000So when a president gets in that you do support, Then the other side, because we've established this precedent, they're just not going to follow his laws either.
00:47:49.000I was saying that when the ICE raids were going on because I was like, okay, I am not in favor of illegal criminals being in this country.
00:47:58.000However, we're setting a very alarming precedent where you have masked, militarized police with no ID.
00:48:08.000That are running around the cities snatching people up.
00:48:12.000Like, this could set a precedent that could be used by the left if they get into power for something different than just for ICE.
00:48:21.000We've already accepted the idea of militarized police on our streets and that people with seven weeks training, you're just sending them out to snatch up people.
00:48:30.000And a lot of American citizens are getting caught up in that trap too, unfortunately, and then they have to get released.
00:48:38.000That could be bad if the next party gets in.
00:48:43.000So, if the Democrats get in next and they decide, like maybe there's a new COVID strain happens, some new pandemic happens, whatever the fuck it is.
00:48:53.000And if you don't get the vaccine, they're going to arrest you and then they start the same.
00:50:22.000And again, it's what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
00:50:26.000And these politicians right now who are doing all of us a tremendous disservice in Washington, I feel, our elected officials, because they're not thinking beyond this next election.
00:50:48.000But I think we've reached a point as they.
00:50:51.000As politicians talk about eliminating the electoral college, they talk about eliminating the filibuster, eliminating packing courts, all these things because their side's not in power.
00:51:00.000And so we're just going to take the structure of the government and totally rework it to benefit us temporarily.
00:51:06.000But then those same benefits that you have now will be used against you.
00:52:38.000I don't have a pile of time to dedicate to it.
00:52:41.000It's tough for me to talk politics because I don't have hours in my day to sift through what's real and not real on Instagram or social, whatever.
00:53:25.000It may have been some other newscaster.
00:53:28.000And there's a debate amongst all these different potential candidates for president.
00:53:34.000And as he's introducing all of these various politicians, he's saying so and so Harvard graduate and law professor from here and this former senator and this and that and the other.
00:53:45.000This person here, and they get to Jack Kemp, and he goes back up quarterback and born again Christian Jack Kemp.
00:53:51.000I'm like, wow, you just sunk that dude.
00:53:55.000Everyone else, you gave what their jobs were and talked about their accomplishments.
00:53:59.000And this, you just said he didn't start at quarterback, and he's you call that his religion, dude.
00:54:04.000And that's the first time I ever remember I'm like, I know your opinion, I'm not supposed to know your opinion.
00:54:11.000You're supposed to be giving me news, right?
00:55:02.000This is why, you know, Tulsi Gabbard and her final act as Director of National Intelligence as she's leaving, she had that, she gave that press conference about Fauci.
00:55:14.000And she talked about how he lied in front of Congress and that he absolutely used American tax funds to fund gain of function research through EcoHealth Alliance and through the Wuhan Lab and Wuhan, China.
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00:56:24.000And by the way, didn't we all know that already?
00:58:59.000Well, wild times in the news because I think from then on that sort of sent a shockwave through the majority of the population where just whatever trust they had in the news just got severely eroded.
00:59:12.000And if we don't have good news, if we don't have trust in the news, then we're kind of adrift.
00:59:17.000And then you get locked into fucking conspiracy theories and eco chambers online, and you can get trapped in them too.
00:59:25.000Yeah, then there's nowhere to go get information.
00:59:28.000Has anybody in NBC, CBS, CNN, have any of those people picked up on that Tulsi Gabbard speech about Fauci and had any sort of a reaction to it?
00:59:49.000I don't know whether or not that's changed.
00:59:51.000I don't know if they were preparing an article and they wanted to make sure that they got all their ducks in a row.
00:59:57.000I would think pretty much any time the head of an institute is begging for a pardon when he hasn't been charged with any crime, it's a pretty good indicator you might want to look and see if there's been a crime committed.
01:00:29.000It's just a preemptive pardon is nuts, especially when Rand Paul's questioning him and he's talking to him specifically about what defines gain of function research.
01:00:40.000And by all accounts, by every definition, it's gain of function research.
01:00:45.000And Fauci's still saying, You do not know what you are talking about, with all due respect.
01:00:59.000But before I became an eye doctor, I became a general doctor, which means I studied all the same shit that Fauci studied.
01:01:05.000You had to go through medical school before you go pick a specialty.
01:01:08.000So, four years of studying the entire body before you specialize in whatever you're going to specialize in.
01:01:15.000Well, it's also then if you read RFK Jr.'s book, The Real Anthony Fauci, you find out he ran this exact same playbook during the AIDS pandemic.
01:01:43.000They had already used it as a cancer medication, it was a chemotherapy medication that they stopped using because it was too deadly.
01:01:50.000It was killing people quicker than cancer was killing them.
01:01:52.000So the first medication they gave people when they had an immune system that was compromised was a chemotherapy medication that was killing people.
01:02:00.000And they were giving it to people that were asymptomatic, they were giving it to people that tested HIV positive.
01:02:05.000And then you know about the PCR testing.
01:02:07.000So the PTR says, Kerry Mullis, the guy who invented PCR testing, said publicly about Fauci, he does not know what the fuck he's talking about.
01:02:15.000I don't think he said fuck, but he does not know what he's talking about.
01:02:18.000And that it's not supposed to be used to detect a disease in a person's body.
01:02:22.000And that if you ramp up the cycles long enough, just like they did with COVID, where we got, by some estimations, 80% false positives because of the PCR method, because they were ramping them up so high.
01:02:34.000And so they cut it back quite significantly.
01:02:37.000And that reduced the amount of false positives they had.
01:02:39.000But there's a lot of people that got tested as HIV positive that probably weren't.
01:02:45.000And they put those fucking people on AZT.
01:02:54.000Most mainstream outlets are treating it as a serious but unproven political bombshell.
01:03:00.000They're reporting that Gabbard alleges what Gabbard alleges, stressing the documents are disputed and under review and highlighting how polarized the reaction is.
01:03:11.000Mainstream print, Jerusalem Post, Money Control Newsweek summarized her accusations, emphasized that COVID's origins remain unresolved, and note that the claims about Fauci sparking COVID. Or lying under oath are heavily contested, not yet legally validated.
01:03:28.000Many stories frame this as reigniting a long running fight over lab leak versus natural origin.
01:03:38.000If you are in the news and you are saying that there's still a long running controversy as to whether it's a lab leak or natural origin, shut your fucking dirty whore mouth because it's not.
01:04:07.000Right leaning media highlight her file dump as vindication for critics, focus on the cover up narrative, and give prominent space to Republicans like Rand Paul.
01:04:15.000Why does it more centrist or mainstream outlets present it as a straighter news tone, often pairing Gabbert's and GOP's quotes with Fauci's past denials and nothing there is so far, no judicial finding of perjury or criminal conduct?
01:04:30.000What I've never understood is how this became a left or right issue.
01:05:23.000So, like, he's one of those guys, like, throughout history, where you're going to look back over time and you go, holy shit, this one guy's lies, this one guy's aspirations, this one guy's career fucked so many people over.
01:05:44.000Because people are stupid and they just decide that because a Republican's a president and anything the Republicans are pushing has to be bad.
01:05:52.000And that stupid fucking division, it's so silly.
01:06:42.000I think most people are just not buying it.
01:06:44.000And as long as people wake up to this left versus right nonsense, it's really just a big fucking hustle to keep you fighting with each other.
01:06:55.000Even the ice stuff that we were talking about.
01:06:57.000Hey, folks, do you think it's a coincidence that the biggest fucking ice protests were all going on in the same place where they found all that fraud?
01:07:08.000That these organized, massive protests were all occurring in the same place where that Nick Shirley cat found fucking billions of dollars in fraud?
01:07:57.000However, when there's no one in that daycare for years and years and years, and they can prove that fucking millions of dollars are being earned by that daycare and there's no one in there, it gets a little weird.
01:08:24.000There's a bunch of fake videos that were made by people afterwards that were just capitalizing on people wanting to click on something like that.
01:08:31.000And so they were just engagement farming by pretending.
01:08:34.000Like the guy would show up and they'd go, What are you talking about?
01:08:56.000You know, and then how about the fact that there's certain politicians that voted against this idea?
01:09:03.000So, one of those ladies that was killed, like there was a lady and her husband that were murdered in Minnesota, and she was one of the few people that voted against providing Medicare for illegals.
01:09:19.000They were trying to pass some bill involving Medicare and illegals, and she was one of the ones that voted against it.
01:09:39.000He showed up at their house with a mask on and fucking shot them dead and shot a couple other people too.
01:09:43.000It's like he's, you know, obviously he's fucking cracked out, but kind of weird.
01:09:50.000Kind of weird that the lady who wants to vote against this obvious fraud, this money that's being somehow or another funneled around through Medicare, like one of the things that Elon said when he was on the podcast is that.
01:10:02.000Medicaid and Medicare fraud is one of the biggest fucking problems.
01:10:14.000And this was before all this Nick Shirley shit.
01:10:16.000And now you're seeing it and you're like, Oh, now I get it.
01:10:19.000These hospices that they have, these fake hospices in California, and then all the Somali daycare centers and all the different things.
01:10:27.000They're like, These people are just autism.
01:10:29.000The autism diagnoses went through the fucking roof.
01:10:32.000Because now they can have these autism centers, so they just diagnose their kids as autistic and then they're raking in all this money for treatment.
01:12:58.000It's not upholding the rule of the law, not keeping people safe, being empathetic to people that are shooting up on the street over people that are trying to walk their fucking kids to school.
01:13:18.000For the most part, for the most part, if you are the mayor of a city, and when I was writing Yellowstone, the governor of Montana at the time, who was a Democrat, I called him and asked him, I said, hey, can I just talk to you about what it's like to be a governor?
01:13:34.000What did you think it would be and what did it turn out to be?
01:13:37.000And what he said was, Steve Bullock is his name.
01:13:42.000He said, well, I thought I was going to make all these changes and do this and shepherd this, and I learned that I am the CEO of a state.
01:13:52.000And that my job as the CEO of the state is take care of the people who live in the state, the employees of the state, attract business here, attract tourism here, and try to make the state make more money and make lives better.
01:14:35.000But run the schools, like, run the city.
01:14:39.000And you have in a lot of these big urban areas where they're so agenda driven and they're pushing a social agenda and they're not running the cities.
01:15:34.000Ten years of fucking asinine government.
01:15:38.000And also, this homeless thing, when you realize that it's an industry, When the homelessness is valuable, having homeless people on the streets is valuable because you can get more money to deal with this obvious homeless problem.
01:15:53.000The more obvious the problem is, the more money they're going to throw on it.
01:17:59.000Pull it up, Jamie, because I can't remember what the process is.
01:18:02.000But they spin it in a centrifuge for like 10 hours, and then you come back the next day and they inject it, and it makes this very potent anti inflammatory.
01:18:10.000And they inject it around wherever the injury is to the disc.
01:18:14.000And it provides, like, within weeks, amazing relief.
01:18:28.000So, German physician Dr. Peter Welling, the treatment focused on blocking a specific inflammatory protein, interleukin 1.
01:18:36.000So, they take the blood out, they draw your blood, and then the blood is heated to body temperature to trigger the production of a natural anti inflammatory protein called IL 1RA.
01:18:47.000And then they spin it in a centrifuge, separating out the protein rich serum.
01:18:52.000The serum is then injected directly into the painful joint or tissue.
01:18:56.000Dude, it was remarkable for me for knee injuries.
01:19:46.000I have a harness that I attach to a pull up bar and it straps under my chin, and I just like let my weight drop down and decompress my weight on my neck.
01:20:26.000It's so good for just decompressing your back.
01:20:29.000But you need to decompress the neck, too.
01:20:31.000Anytime you're doing anything, if you're deadlifting or squat, obviously you're lifting a lot of heavyweights.
01:20:35.000Anytime you're lifting weight, you've got to think of all that pressure on your back, all that squashing down, and you've got to do something to stretch it out.
01:20:53.000So the good news is there's some treatments that they're doing now where they're actually injecting some sort of a hydro gel into the disc itself.
01:21:03.000So I asked Brigham from Ways to Well about that, and they're looking into it.
01:21:07.000And they're trying to, apparently, this is not being done widely yet.
01:21:12.000This is like, there's just experimental.
01:21:14.000But they think they're going to be able to do that.
01:21:17.000There's also some places like CPI, Cellular Performance Institute down in Tijuana.
01:21:22.000They've successfully been injecting stem cells into people's discs.
01:21:27.000And it causes a disc to regenerate tissue and get thicker and healthier.
01:25:52.000I don't even remember when we first heard about it, but when we first heard about it on a podcast, we were talking about it and we found the amount that's lethal and they showed it next to a penny.
01:26:21.000And what's interesting is this Ibogaine initiative that Rick Perry and Brian Hubbard are pushing in Texas, and that I went to the White House to get Trump to be involved in.
01:26:31.000They're trying to make this so that it's you have a right to use or right I think they call it right to use or right to try for people that are addicted, and they're trying to make it more readily available and accessible to veterans.
01:26:44.000That's the thing that could help all these people.
01:27:06.000You go into this very dark experience for like 24 hours where it replays your life to you in a very uncomfortable way and also somehow or another rewires addiction in your brain.
01:27:19.000And for a large percentage of people, just one dose is good enough to get them off of everything.
01:27:24.000Whatever they're on, whether it's alcohol, gambling, coke, whatever the fuck it is.
01:27:29.000But for two doses, when they do it twice, it's significantly better.
01:27:55.000Somehow or another, it has neuroregenerative properties where.
01:27:59.000He went there and he said, he went to his doctor before, and the doctor did a whole scan of his body.
01:28:04.000He said, Look, you've got a certain amount of age related brain atrophy.
01:28:07.000It's like, it's fine, but it's normal that you're 73 years old or 74 years old.
01:28:12.000So he goes and does the Ibogaine, sees his doctor a short time afterwards, and the doctor says, It's 25% less atrophy than when you got the last scan.
01:28:24.000And he explains to him the whole Ibogaine thing.
01:28:27.000He goes back six months later, it's all gone.
01:28:30.000He has no brain atrophy anymore, which is bananas.
01:29:03.000But if so many veterans have had to go over to mostly Mexico, but Costa Rica, there's a bunch of different places that they go where they can have these Ibogaine retreats.
01:29:14.000And these guys have had incredible results.
01:29:18.000Marcus Luttrell, he had an incredible result from it.
01:29:45.000And because of their stories, because all these veterans, then it kind of opened up the idea to a lot more right wing people that would maybe be more hesitant to accept something like this.
01:29:56.000Then on top of it, no recreational use.
01:29:59.000No one's like, boy, I can't wait to do that again.
01:30:01.000Everybody's like, holy shit, this sucked.
01:30:25.000But if those people had access to Ibogaine, all these homeless people that you see strung out, if instead of just giving them needles and an iPhone and profiting off of it, if somehow or another these assholes can figure out a way to profit off of these centers where you could bring people in and give them Ibogaine retreats, maybe that would be a nice little fucking exit strategy.
01:30:47.000For all these grifters that have been profiting off of the homeless industrial complex for so long.
01:31:32.000They're performative entrepreneurs, if you think about it.
01:31:36.000Come up with a problem, then go pitch some version of Karen's solution to a government and take the fucking money and never solve the problem.
01:31:47.000Because as soon as you solve the problem, and if you do somehow accidentally solve it, then go find another one.
01:31:53.000And I think that's one of the reasons why shows like Yellowstone in particular that show people that are proud to work hard and really get deep satisfaction out of that life.
01:32:06.000And there's something about that that really resonates with people.
01:32:12.000Like, there's a better way than just bullshitting people, there's a better way than fraud and nonsense and all this political horseshit that's pumped down your throat every day.
01:33:20.000I think that's why people are so attracted to the life.
01:33:23.000That's why I've got third generation cowboys that went and got a degree in ranch management to come back and make, you know, $3,000 a month and couldn't be happier.
01:41:22.000And he's got this caribou that he shot.
01:41:25.000And they're hanging frozen, and he just saws off a piece and throws the frozen steaks onto the grill, cooks it over wood, and this is how this guy lives.
01:42:15.000I think we're a little wrong with that, too.
01:42:18.000I think they're starting to change their perspective of when actual civilization emerged because of stuff like Gobekli Tepe in Turkey.
01:42:29.000They found these immense structures that are 11,800 years old that were buried, that this guy who was like a sheepherder in the 90s found it.
01:42:37.000Yeah, he found like a stone that was like sticking out of the ground weird and he kicked it with his boots, like knocking some dirt off.
01:42:43.000And then he brought in some archaeologists and then they discovered this massive complex these like huge circles of giant stone columns with 3D animals carved in them.
01:42:53.000And they carbon dated the ground and it was intentionally covered up somewhere around 11,000 plus years ago.
01:43:47.000And, you know, there was at one point we thought there was this logical evolution of man from Homo erectus into Homo sapien, and now we know that there were at least four, maybe five species of humanoid living at the same time.
01:44:18.000We're basing entire science on a very limited number that can even possibly exist.
01:44:24.000I think if you take into account how many dinosaur bones they've found and then how many dinosaurs existed and for how many hundreds of millions of years dinosaurs existed, and you realize, oh, most shit doesn't make a fossil.
01:44:41.000So we don't even know how many different dinosaurs that we've.
01:44:44.000I mean, they just discovered a new one recently.
01:44:46.000We don't even know how many existed that we never found fossilized.
01:46:20.000So it was underneath the water the whole time, and then they're like, holy, the river dried up completely in most locations, line for more tracks to be uncovered here in the park.
01:48:38.000I mean, if you think about how many different things died and just were absorbed by the earth, just getting shit out.
01:48:45.000Swallowed up, just destroyed by time and erosion, and never became fossils.
01:48:50.000We're basing the entire history of the planet on a limited amount of information.
01:48:55.000And that information, it never gets younger, it always gets older.
01:49:00.000The more stuff they found like they found a modern version of human beings that pushes the timeline of humans back another 300,000 or 400,000 years.
01:51:28.000Because I guess when you're dealing with old bows that didn't have a whole lot of power, you really wouldn't want a big, wide cut because you wouldn't get enough penetration to get through the rib cage.
01:51:54.000It's just an amazing thing you're finding just this piece of ancient history where people had no internet, no books, no nothing, just flint napping and using tendons.
01:53:08.000Or when you find them like we found them, I mean, every single time it rained, there was this stock tank behind our house and maybe it's half mile up to the stock tank.
01:53:18.000We walked that road and you could find four or five.
01:53:59.000Yeah, and that guy makes the arrows, and maybe somebody else makes the bows, and this guy's going out and shooting the deer and bringing them back.
01:54:06.000When you're doing a show like 1823, how much research did you have to do to try to get that right?
01:54:13.000Because that was, in my opinion, one of the best theatrical things that I ever watched, movie or television show, that I feel like nailed what it must have been like to try to travel across the country, to be a civilized person living in the city.
01:54:30.000Try to make your way across the country and just experience the wild shit those people saw.
01:55:31.000There were a lot of Central Europeans.
01:55:35.000That came and they were promised free land, right?
01:55:40.000There would be travel agencies that they would arrange the entire trip with before they've even left Germany or Croatia or wherever they were.
01:55:51.000And so by the time that they landed in Galveston, they would meet up with their group and the group would, you know, they'd have chipped in all this amount of money and they've got guides and they would have already arranged for mules or horses and wagons.
01:58:03.000I was reading something about that the other day that people tend to, for whatever reason, always walk in a counterclockwise direction when they get lost.
01:58:14.000And that even if they're left footed or right handed or left handed, it doesn't seem to matter.
01:58:20.000Humans, when they walk, if they get lost, like in the woods, they walk in circles and they almost always walk in a counterclockwise direction.
01:58:29.000And so, this article was explaining that if you find yourself lost and you think you're running into the same places, most likely you should veer towards the right because you're most likely looping towards the left for whatever reason.
01:59:41.000In lab and field experiments, blindfolded people tend to walk straight without landmarks, almost always end up curving into large loops instead of moving in a straight line.
01:59:51.000People told, rather, to walk straight without landmarks.
01:59:54.000This happens because without internal clues, oh, external clues like the sun, distant objects, or a visible path, small random errors in balance and body feedback build up until the path bends enough to close into a circle.
02:04:42.000Most people treated correspondence as a regular daily or weekly task, similar to a modern email block, excepting that it would take a significant chunk of their time.
02:05:17.000How much do you enjoy writing that kind of a show versus writing a show like Lioness or like Landman?
02:05:25.000Do you have a favorite or do you like all of them?
02:05:27.000No, I can't say I have a favorite necessarily.
02:05:32.000You know, the fun thing about Lioness, which is sort of.
02:05:37.000I can't say it's ripped from the headlines because I don't, I've tried to be, I've tried to guess what's going to happen politically and then fictionalize that.
02:05:49.000And the fact that I've managed to be right is pretty fucking wild.
02:05:54.000I thought, surely, in season two, when I said that the cartels had been listed as terrorist organizations, I'm like, this could be my 18 month cancel vacation coming.
02:06:58.000You're watching Montana in the 20s, it was fascinating.
02:07:01.000It was a fascinating place because you've got the 20th century, the Industrial Revolution in full swing, and you have washing machines, refrigerators, telephones, and electricity, and then you're still traveling by horseback.
02:08:08.000I'll tell you what, my computer, I just assume that the CIA and FBI have like a whole team because the shit I look up when I'm researching, I'm like, how to make a bomb?
02:08:53.000I think within the world of I mean, within that world, I think it's a lot.
02:08:57.000When you're writing that, how difficult is it to really keep your finger on the pulse of what's actually going on with espionage and what tools they actually have available?
02:09:21.000Tracking devices and various things, satellite imagery, facial recognition, all of these things.
02:09:26.000But a lot of it's also very low tech by design because it's harder to trace, right?
02:09:34.000And it's a lot of leverage and manipulation.
02:09:39.000You're either bribing someone with money or blackmailing them.
02:09:43.000And that's typically those those are the two tools that that are being used the most in tradecraft and in the spy game, right?
02:09:52.000That's really you're it's leverage leveraging individuals and they're all doing it everybody, right?
02:09:58.000Every single and then if you look at some of the and again, I'm not getting on any completely apolitical, but From a tradecraft standpoint what the massacre was able to do with all those fucking cell phones and pagers and shit like you want to talk about play the long game Like,
02:10:18.000build this dummy company, sell all these, get all these devices to all of these people who are your enemy, and start setting them off years later to detonate.
02:14:09.000I don't know where we're at, but I'm not convinced.
02:14:11.000I'm not convinced that they haven't done something.
02:14:14.000In fact, Eric Weinstein makes some really interesting connections between there's a college in upstate New York, a university in upstate New York that has a very overqualified physics department, and it's connected to a hedge fund that does bigger than Bernie Madoff type numbers.
02:14:32.000And he's like, the whole thing stinks to high heaven.
02:14:35.000And he goes, and I have a feeling that there's some sort of an undisclosed or a top secret above, you know, top secret access program that's going on.
02:14:45.000Oh, I can promise you there's something.
02:14:48.000I've always thought a possible solution to petroleum as far as transportation goes, and I wonder why they've never tried it, is using magnetic force.
02:15:01.000If you have, you take a positive and negative charge.
02:15:07.000If you take a positive and positive or negative and negative, they're going to.
02:15:11.000I'm no fucking scientist, but it's going to repel, right?
02:15:14.000We've taken magnets and they push each other away.
02:15:16.000Well, how can we not use that if you had a vehicle and the base of it is essentially a positive charge or a negative, whatever it takes to make the magnets repel, and then your road base was essentially the similarly charged metal?
02:16:15.000I mean, who knows what the fuck those people are working on and whether or not they made breakthroughs and they don't want other people to know or whether or not they want to stop the breakthrough because they're aligned with whatever the conventional propulsion systems are and they don't want to lose money.
02:18:07.000Whenever you have a thing like this where people start looking for connections, they can make some connections that aren't necessarily valid.
02:18:14.000And so, let's say if there's 15, let's say 10 of them.
02:22:47.000Where there were all of these politicians, a few congressmen, some state reps, and they were all like, Russian spies, or at least on the take.
02:30:09.000So, me and a buddy of mine shared an apartment together, and we jogged down there and worked out every day.
02:30:14.000And there was this dude that showed up and started working out in there, and this dude was jacked, but different than like the West Hollywood fit.
02:30:21.000Like, this fucker was yoked and had all these crazy.
02:33:38.000They saw it on an x-ray and diagnosed me.
02:33:41.000And I said, well, let's deal with that shit first.
02:33:44.000So I fly him to Texas, where I, know people, and I get him in and he sees a doctor and fortunately the mass wasn't cancer, so they, they help him out, do the surgery, get that done.
02:33:55.000And then I say well, I mean I get you a job in a movie but it doesn't pay very good and the hours are shit and you've got a five year old daughter.
02:34:03.000I mean, you know, to just be a production assistant or something is not gonna pay enough to off it's.
02:34:09.000It's not a great, that's not a plan right, because you think you could like just spot me for a few months while I try and figure shit out.
02:34:17.000And I said I have 100% failure rate of loaning money to friends.
02:35:34.000So it's literally a travel guide to prison.
02:35:38.000And it walks you through day one how to navigate the yard being processed in, the food, the commissary, the gangs, the diseases, prison riots, how to get a job in there, how to fucking make a shiv, how to do everything.
02:36:15.000And typically, if someone's going there, I even say in the intro, I'm like, if you're buying this book because you're going to prison, finish the book before you get to prison.
02:36:23.000Do not bring this book with you to prison or you'll die on fucking day one.
02:38:16.000If you weren't a criminal when you went in, which you clearly committed a crime and got convicted, but you're going to be a fucking criminal when you come out.
02:38:24.000The guys like Tom, who, I mean, there's an 80 something percent recidivism rate in the U.S.
02:38:31.000So for a guy to get out of prison and not go back to prison, the odds are fucking four to one against you.
02:39:46.000I'm glad he's an MMA fighter because he started out as an all American wrestler in Division I. He's like very, he's just a great athlete all across the board.
02:39:56.000And just his particular style of aggression is so well suited for MMA.
02:40:02.000It's just shocking that he's that good a striker and he was a wrestler.
02:41:35.000Iliot Taporia fan as well, and I think he'll be back better than ever.
02:41:39.000And I think sometimes a loss is like one of the most important things a fighter can ever have because they realize like you can be beat, and you need to know that you're a human.
02:41:48.000You need to know that you can't just throw caution to the wind sometimes and just engage in these wild scraps.
02:41:54.000Sometimes you have to be a little bit more tactical, and sometimes you got to realize like you can't take everybody out.
02:42:01.000And that's the case with Justin, they couldn't take him out, and he almost did in the second round, got real fucking close, real close.
02:42:08.000But You know, that freaking Justin, he can time that transfer of power to right at the end of the punch.