The Joe Rogan Experience - June 24, 2026


Joe Rogan Experience #2518 - Tim Dillon


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2 hours and 38 minutes

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28,359

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Misogyny

57

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Toxicity

316

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Actor and comedian Joe Rogan opens up about his love for smoking and how it s changed his life. He also explains why he doesn t like Taco Bell and why he s never had a Taco Bell. Joe also talks about how he s always wanted to be an actor and how he got into comedy.

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00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan experience.
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00:00:10.000 I was 13 and I was smoking.
00:00:12.000 My father said that to me.
00:00:13.000 He goes, You know what's a good thing about you?
00:00:15.000 You never smoked them down to the filter.
00:00:16.000 What a good kid.
00:00:17.000 And what a great family.
00:00:20.000 What a great family. 1.00
00:00:22.000 My sister smoked when we were in high school.
00:00:24.000 I was always like, God, why are you smoking? 1.00
00:00:25.000 It's so stupid. 1.00
00:00:26.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:00:26.000 And then I had to do a play once with Adam Ferrara and a couple other people. 1.00
00:00:31.000 And I was supposed to play this.
00:00:34.000 Something that a bunch of comics wrote, like a funny little sketch thing.
00:00:37.000 And I was supposed to play this, like, tortured liberal arts student, and I was, like, smoking cigarettes.
00:00:42.000 So they wanted me to smoke cigarettes while I was doing it. 0.99
00:00:44.000 So I smoked, like, 15 fucking cigarettes while we were doing it. 0.99
00:00:46.000 And I threw up. 1.00
00:00:47.000 I had a fucking horrible headache. 0.99
00:00:49.000 I was like, oh, my God, I'm so high. 0.99
00:00:50.000 Wow.
00:00:51.000 My arms don't move right.
00:00:52.000 If you've never smoked cigarettes at all and you just smoked 15 in a row during.
00:00:56.000 Were you, like, an athlete, too?
00:00:57.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98
00:00:58.000 Oh, so that totally fucked you up. 1.00
00:00:59.000 Oh, completely fucked me up. 1.00
00:01:00.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98
00:01:00.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:01:01.000 No, the first time I had a cigarette, it's so terrible, but I was like, this is great.
00:01:07.000 My body responded.
00:01:09.000 I don't know how, like, what you had is the very normal experience.
00:01:13.000 It was just too much.
00:01:14.000 One cigarette I actually liked.
00:01:15.000 I was like, ooh, what a head rush.
00:01:16.000 This is kind of cool.
00:01:17.000 I go, now I kind of get it.
00:01:19.000 I get why you guys like this.
00:01:20.000 Interesting.
00:01:21.000 But we were doing this thing, and I had to always be smoking.
00:01:23.000 So we had a rehearse.
00:01:24.000 We were doing it all day, and I wanted to try to, like, feel normal with a cigarette in my hand.
00:01:29.000 So I kept smoking them, and then I liked them.
00:01:31.000 So I kept smoking them.
00:01:32.000 Yeah.
00:01:33.000 It's a tough thing because the thing about, and I've been sober 15 years from alcohol and drugs.
00:01:40.000 And I look at people that are really drunk, it doesn't look appealing.
00:01:42.000 It doesn't look good.
00:01:44.000 But when you see somebody with a cigarette, it always looks good.
00:01:47.000 It looks like, ah.
00:01:48.000 It always looks good.
00:01:49.000 You never say to yourself, like, that person's going to lose.
00:01:53.000 Now you'll get sick and die, but you never go, they're going to lose control of their life.
00:01:57.000 So you look at somebody with a cigarette and you go, oh, yeah, they're having one.
00:01:57.000 Right.
00:02:02.000 They're cool.
00:02:03.000 It's fine.
00:02:04.000 They're using it to help hang on.
00:02:05.000 Yeah, and I never look cool with it.
00:02:06.000 It's like you look at an actor doing it or someone at, like, the Cannes Film Festival.
00:02:11.000 Yeah, someone like that.
00:02:12.000 Yeah.
00:02:12.000 Timothy Chalamet has one.
00:02:14.000 He's the size of one, and he has one.
00:02:17.000 And I go, that looks fine.
00:02:19.000 Probably in France or something.
00:02:21.000 You know what I mean? 1.00
00:02:22.000 They all do shit like that. 1.00
00:02:23.000 So you'll see that. 1.00
00:02:24.000 You should get a cigarette holder to go with your sunglasses.
00:02:26.000 Yeah, it's just a cigarette holder.
00:02:28.000 Yeah.
00:02:29.000 That's your next move.
00:02:30.000 I just got a.
00:02:31.000 Long stems with the cigarette at the end of it?
00:02:33.000 Like 1920s.
00:02:34.000 Yeah.
00:02:35.000 Like 1920s.
00:02:36.000 Yeah.
00:02:37.000 No, it's the worst thing because the smell is terrible.
00:02:41.000 And it destroys your clothes, obviously.
00:02:41.000 Right.
00:02:46.000 Yeah.
00:02:47.000 But it is one of those things that it's just such a good product.
00:02:50.000 What other product could they tell you it kills you and we're raising the price every year?
00:02:56.000 How about in England where they smoke like crazy? 1.00
00:02:57.000 You have actual cancer on the fucking cartons. 1.00
00:03:00.000 When you buy them, and I was in London and you bought one, there was like a dead baby on one of them. 1.00
00:03:04.000 A photo of them.
00:03:05.000 They were like low birth weight.
00:03:06.000 Yeah.
00:03:07.000 I was like, this is terrible.
00:03:09.000 And no one cares.
00:03:10.000 They smoke more over there than anywhere.
00:03:11.000 They smoke more over there.
00:03:12.000 They don't eat the way we eat.
00:03:15.000 Like they don't understand the way we eat.
00:03:17.000 Gluttony.
00:03:18.000 They don't get it.
00:03:19.000 There is.
00:03:20.000 There's something called Toby Carvery, like where you can just ladle on Sunday roast and Yorkshire pudding and stuff.
00:03:28.000 But for the most part, the portions are smaller and people are more behaved in that sense.
00:03:34.000 But they drink more and they smoke.
00:03:37.000 This is it.
00:03:38.000 European World Cup fans losing their minds over Taco Bell ranch and unlimited refills.
00:03:44.000 Yeah.
00:03:45.000 Oh, yeah.
00:03:46.000 Because they get sick.
00:03:47.000 When they come here, they get sick because there's chemicals in our food.
00:03:50.000 Somebody was telling me they went to Bucky's. 0.93
00:03:54.000 And the soccer teams were at Bucky's for the first time, and they just fucking couldn't believe it. 0.96
00:04:00.000 Of course. 0.64
00:04:01.000 Imagine that's your first one of the first experiences you have in America. 0.98
00:04:04.000 You walk into a Bucky's. 1.00
00:04:05.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:04:05.000 And you're from Czechoslovakia or some shit. 1.00
00:04:08.000 It's one of the most American places, as you've said, that exists. 0.99
00:04:12.000 You have this gas station, but that's also like a weird theme park of food and all kinds of other shit that you could need. 0.80
00:04:21.000 Yeah, this guy, dude, LMAO, this is a gas station. 0.56
00:04:25.000 Yeah.
00:04:26.000 Well, do you see how big they are?
00:04:28.000 Yeah.
00:04:28.000 The first 24 million views, that's hilarious.
00:04:31.000 No, it's completely alien to their culture to have a place like that where you could go buy the Costco's, they are alien to them.
00:04:40.000 The idea that you could buy mayonnaise in a bucket or jars and things that you would keep, like, you know, like it's all they all think we're preppers because if you go to like a big grocery store chain, you're buying food for a long period of time.
00:04:56.000 They don't do that there, they buy stuff for like the week.
00:04:58.000 They have small refrigerators, yeah, small refrigerators, a couple of days.
00:05:02.000 They don't have refrigerators like we have, but also they don't have the same amount of preservatives in their food, which is why it's not poison.
00:05:08.000 Right.
00:05:09.000 They also don't think, and they could be wrong about this, but they also don't think they're going to lose access because of some race war.
00:05:18.000 You know what I mean?
00:05:19.000 There is a little bit of planning that goes into some of these grocery runs that does seem slightly paranoid.
00:05:25.000 Oh, yeah.
00:05:26.000 Well, the news media over here ramps you up.
00:05:28.000 Oh, yeah.
00:05:30.000 And you start thinking about stockpiling gold.
00:05:32.000 Oh, yeah.
00:05:33.000 Yeah.
00:05:33.000 Listen, when I lived in LA, when my kids were young, I had an apocalypse truck built.
00:05:37.000 Right.
00:05:38.000 That Toyota Land Cruiser I got, I specifically, I go, I need a bug out truck. 0.85
00:05:44.000 Like a truck where I could store a lot of shit in it and it could literally drive over a mountain. 0.80
00:05:48.000 That's what I need. 0.94
00:05:49.000 I need a car that's not just a road car. 0.98
00:05:51.000 I need a car that occasionally shit might go sideways and you got to get the fuck out of here and you got to drive through the desert. 0.99
00:05:51.000 Right. 0.99
00:05:56.000 Wow.
00:05:57.000 And I've left LA multiple times to make that drive, not in an apocalypse car, but because of fires, because of riots.
00:06:04.000 Like sometimes you just got to get out of Dodge. 0.95
00:06:07.000 I got evacuated three fucking times when I lived there. 0.98
00:06:09.000 And it got us close to like burning my fence down. 0.99
00:06:09.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:06:12.000 It's part of the LA experience to get in a car.
00:06:14.000 David Spade called me once during the riots.
00:06:16.000 He goes, Your block is on fire.
00:06:17.000 I thought he was kidding, but there was just overturned cop cars on fire.
00:06:21.000 And it was like riots.
00:06:22.000 This was 2020.
00:06:24.000 So I just got in my car and I went, Okay.
00:06:25.000 And I drove to the desert.
00:06:26.000 That's part of the LA experience is fleeing.
00:06:29.000 That's what Palm Beach is.
00:06:30.000 Yeah.
00:06:31.000 Yeah.
00:06:32.000 Palm Springs, right.
00:06:32.000 Palm Springs.
00:06:33.000 Yeah.
00:06:33.000 You flee.
00:06:34.000 You go.
00:06:34.000 You flee.
00:06:34.000 Yeah.
00:06:35.000 I mean, Palm Springs makes no sense. 1.00
00:06:37.000 It's hot as fuck. 0.99
00:06:37.000 There's no water. 0.99
00:06:38.000 Well, you know why it started?
00:06:39.000 It started because when Paramount Pictures was doing edits, if you were in a movie, you had to be within 200 miles of until the movie was finished editing.
00:06:39.000 It started with money.
00:06:50.000 It was in your contract.
00:06:51.000 Palm Springs is like exactly 200 miles from LA.
00:06:55.000 Oh, interesting.
00:06:57.000 That's why they started it.
00:06:58.000 Hollywood, they were like, we own you.
00:07:01.000 You can't go anywhere until the film was edited.
00:07:05.000 So if you want to go on a vacation, you have to go there.
00:07:07.000 You know what's interesting is like Pasadena was where all the producers lived.
00:07:11.000 Yeah.
00:07:12.000 There's beautiful houses in Pasadena, man.
00:07:15.000 Mid century modern, beautiful.
00:07:17.000 And incredible places like estates that just seem completely out of place.
00:07:22.000 Totally beautiful.
00:07:23.000 But from another time.
00:07:24.000 From another time.
00:07:25.000 Well, that's the thing in LA now.
00:07:26.000 You get the vibe that Santino made a brilliant point.
00:07:30.000 He's like, it's not Hollywood, it's Hollywood the sequel.
00:07:33.000 Like, you're not living in the thing anymore.
00:07:35.000 You're living in whatever the second version of the thing is.
00:07:38.000 Right.
00:07:40.000 The second version is TikToker.
00:07:41.000 Yeah, whatever it is.
00:07:43.000 It's not.
00:07:44.000 It's not what it was, and every place seems a little bit like a museum or like it was cool 20 years ago or 15 years ago.
00:07:52.000 You know, somebody recently said this, and it's perfect.
00:07:55.000 They said, LA is slowly becoming Detroit.
00:07:57.000 Interesting.
00:07:58.000 Yeah.
00:07:59.000 The only thing that might save it is the weather.
00:08:01.000 The weather will help, but the industry dried up.
00:08:04.000 So, the big industry in Hollywood, regardless of whether or not it's the biggest economic industry, the biggest industry in terms of cultural value and getting people to move there was always show business.
00:08:14.000 Yep.
00:08:15.000 And that's.
00:08:16.000 They barely make movies anymore.
00:08:17.000 They overtaxed and overregulated their biggest industry to other states and other countries.
00:08:25.000 Yeah.
00:08:25.000 And most people are making things all over the world, and very few things.
00:08:30.000 At one time, it was like 80 to 90%.
00:08:32.000 Now it's 25, 30% shot in LA.
00:08:35.000 Wow.
00:08:36.000 It's a big difference.
00:08:37.000 It's a giant difference.
00:08:38.000 Well, that arrogance of like, this is the best place in the world.
00:08:42.000 Everyone's going to come here no matter what.
00:08:44.000 That's the Gavin Newsom attitude whenever he defends California.
00:08:47.000 Talks about how great the GDP is.
00:08:51.000 We would be the fifth largest economic.
00:08:54.000 He starts rattling off all these wonderful statistics.
00:08:57.000 And this is like, instead of acknowledging, we've got a fucking real Problems, people are moving for the first time ever more than they're coming here.
00:09:05.000 We're losing all these giant corporations that are leaving. 1.00
00:09:07.000 Instead of that, it's just this we're the shit. 0.99
00:09:10.000 No one's, yeah, it doesn't matter. 1.00
00:09:12.000 I'm very big on California.
00:09:14.000 I'm bullish on California.
00:09:16.000 It's always going to be amazing here.
00:09:18.000 Well, it's what every empire said until they fell.
00:09:20.000 Yeah.
00:09:20.000 Right?
00:09:22.000 But people don't want to ever believe that things can fall.
00:09:22.000 We are the thing.
00:09:25.000 It's so weird.
00:09:25.000 We'll walk right through the Coliseum and go, well, this can never happen again.
00:09:28.000 Right.
00:09:29.000 When we landed in LA, I looked to the right and that warehouse was on fire with 85 billion or 85 million tons of chemicals in a warehouse that was on fire.
00:09:43.000 It was like a multi day blaze.
00:09:45.000 And you're landing and you're looking out the window and you're just seeing the warehouse on fire.
00:09:51.000 And then there was a car fire on the 405.
00:09:54.000 Like I sold my house, have an apartment there now.
00:09:56.000 But as I was going to my apartment, there was a car on fire.
00:09:59.000 And as I was landing, the warehouse was on fire.
00:10:02.000 And you start thinking to yourself, somebody doesn't want us here.
00:10:05.000 Like, somebody wants us out.
00:10:07.000 Like, it almost feels like we're being evicted by nature.
00:10:10.000 By nature?
00:10:11.000 Interesting.
00:10:12.000 By nature.
00:10:13.000 By bad decisions, by everything.
00:10:16.000 Which is nature.
00:10:16.000 Yeah.
00:10:17.000 You know, human nature is nature. 1.00
00:10:18.000 And the stupidity of humans is no different than the stupidity of animals when they go extinct. 1.00
00:10:24.000 Do you think it comes back? 1.00
00:10:25.000 Any shot, any chance?
00:10:26.000 Something has to happen.
00:10:28.000 Right.
00:10:28.000 Something big has to happen.
00:10:29.000 I mean, there has to be something that completely shifts the way L.A. looks at itself.
00:10:36.000 You know, it has to look at itself as like a functioning business instead of a giant scam for nonprofits.
00:10:41.000 Right.
00:10:41.000 Because a big part of LA's problem is there's a bunch of people that are in the empathy industry.
00:10:46.000 Yeah.
00:10:47.000 And they're in the, you know, we're working for this and we're working for that. 1.00
00:10:51.000 And a giant chunk of their money is going to that kind of shit. 0.99
00:10:54.000 I did a great show at Oceans in Atlantic City, which is a casino there. 1.00
00:10:57.000 And the owner of that casino was talking to me.
00:11:00.000 And I said, what would fix Atlantic City?
00:11:03.000 Because Atlantic City has some similar problems to LA.
00:11:06.000 But vastly worse.
00:11:07.000 Yeah, way worse.
00:11:09.000 And he was telling me, he goes, We have just a high amount of people and a lot of social programs in one area.
00:11:15.000 So you have a lot of people that are not, for whatever reason, productive, and they are living in one area and everything that comes along with that, which is crime, which is vandalism, which is disorder to varying degrees.
00:11:31.000 And he goes, You need to get rid of that in order to have a climate where businesses.
00:11:37.000 Can thrive.
00:11:38.000 100%.
00:11:39.000 Which is what happened in New York in the 90s.
00:11:41.000 People hate it.
00:11:42.000 They don't want to admit it.
00:11:43.000 But what happened in New York in the 90s was like they did clean up a lot of the crime and a lot of businesses then felt better about investing.
00:11:52.000 100%.
00:11:53.000 But that's what Giuliani did.
00:11:54.000 That's what he did, yeah.
00:11:55.000 And he's demonized.
00:11:57.000 He's demonized.
00:11:58.000 He's demonized.
00:11:59.000 He hasn't.
00:12:01.000 He's one of those guys where if he had just done that and died, his legacy would have been amazing.
00:12:06.000 But he's hung around for a while and he's kind of gone into some interesting tangents.
00:12:11.000 So it's one of those scenarios where it's like, had he just cleaned up New York City and then left public life, it would have been like that guy.
00:12:18.000 But he hung around a little bit and, you know, got involved.
00:12:18.000 Right.
00:12:21.000 They always have to hang around.
00:12:22.000 They do.
00:12:22.000 They always hang around.
00:12:23.000 You're going to do shows.
00:12:23.000 They always hang around.
00:12:24.000 You're always going to do stand up.
00:12:26.000 You're always going to do shows.
00:12:26.000 That's right.
00:12:27.000 But he did such a good thing and then it was like just.
00:12:30.000 Just exit.
00:12:30.000 Yeah.
00:12:31.000 Who's also, you know, he was easy to make fun of, like the time where he was sweating and his dye was getting off him.
00:12:36.000 Well, that's what I mean.
00:12:37.000 You know what I mean?
00:12:38.000 He's melting. 0.99
00:12:39.000 He's doing the black dye conference in a parking lot.
00:12:41.000 Don't dye your hair.
00:12:42.000 Yeah, no.
00:12:43.000 You're 100 years old.
00:12:44.000 It's okay to have gray hair.
00:12:45.000 It's just these guys, there's so much silliness on both sides.
00:12:50.000 You know, there's silliness on the left and silliness on the right. 0.95
00:12:53.000 There's goofy people because the only kind of people that want that kind of position of power are a little goofy. 0.97
00:12:59.000 Right. 0.74
00:13:00.000 You don't get, The best and the brightest and the most enlightened that want to be the mayor of New York City.
00:13:05.000 No, not the best.
00:13:06.000 You get a lot of people that want power and they want influence.
00:13:11.000 I think a lot of that, the AI stuff, which is very interesting, is starting to.
00:13:17.000 I don't know how quickly it will do this, but I do think it's going to lessen some of the cultural divides.
00:13:26.000 I think it's going to potentially unite people because I think it's going to be.
00:13:33.000 The next fight seems to be about surveillance, privacy, your own rights, what rights you'll have.
00:13:43.000 Like, I feel like that will be, it might take precedent.
00:13:47.000 Instead of like these cultural fights that people have been having for a while, it might be like people might be demanding autonomy, you know, from artificial intelligence.
00:13:58.000 The problem is going to be if you can't demand, if you don't have a voice anymore.
00:14:04.000 And this is the potential nightmare scenario that we're seeing play out slowly in England.
00:14:10.000 So, in England, their freedom of speech has been suppressed to an alarming point where people are not freaking out nearly enough about it. 0.95
00:14:18.000 The amount of arrests that people get over there for fucking retweets and likes. 0.96
00:14:23.000 Retweets and likes. 0.99
00:14:24.000 That's so crazy to me that you could get arrested for liking a tweet.
00:14:30.000 Arrested?
00:14:31.000 Not even retweeting. 1.00
00:14:32.000 Because we all know if you like, you're a piece of shit. 1.00
00:14:35.000 You should retweet. 1.00
00:14:37.000 We all know that.
00:14:40.000 Retweet it.
00:14:42.000 And if you're going to go to jail, you might as well retweet it anyway.
00:14:45.000 If you're going to get locked up, what if you get extra years for a retweet versus a like?
00:14:49.000 I'm sure.
00:14:51.000 Your Honor, my client just liked this.
00:14:52.000 They were confused.
00:14:53.000 They hit a button.
00:14:54.000 So as soon as you have people that feel like the reality of the world they live in is not being represented and they're not allowed to complain about it online, because if they complain about it online, they get arrested.
00:15:07.000 So right now it's for immigration primarily. 0.84
00:15:09.000 This is the big one. 0.97
00:15:10.000 Right.
00:15:10.000 But That could change.
00:15:12.000 That could change.
00:15:13.000 Well, it does seem to be that they feel that there was a decision made by somebody that the public can only discuss issues in a very rigid way.
00:15:29.000 They can only offer their.
00:15:32.000 Not everyone who's talking about immigration is doing it in the most articulate way, but it's their right to do it.
00:15:37.000 It's their country. 0.86
00:15:39.000 They should be able to say, I'm worried about increased levels of immigration, you know, and they should be able to say that in an ineloquent way, right? 0.99
00:15:51.000 Right. 0.94
00:15:52.000 So, what they're doing now is they're policing certain words and I think certain ways of speaking, and they're calling a lot of things an incitement to violence.
00:16:02.000 Now, some things clearly are an incitement to violence, but you know, the internet, people speak in a colorful way, people talk using irony, some people are trying to be funny, some people are.
00:16:15.000 So, I think the way that they're doing it over there is they're basically looking at these statements and going, this person is.
00:16:22.000 Is inciting violence and threatening the public good by what they're saying.
00:16:28.000 Right.
00:16:29.000 And then there's also people who were getting arrested for saying that there were rape gangs.
00:16:35.000 And there were.
00:16:35.000 And there were.
00:16:36.000 There were.
00:16:37.000 And so this new report, who released this new report that said a quarter million people?
00:16:42.000 It says UK scraps police probes of legal social media posts after review says response went too far.
00:16:48.000 So this is April 1st, 2026.
00:16:52.000 But I just saw a thing about a guy getting arrested like a few days ago.
00:16:55.000 And we have rape gangs here, but our Ours are more successful.
00:16:58.000 I think that's a legal social media post, which is weird.
00:17:03.000 So, legal social media posts.
00:17:05.000 Right.
00:17:05.000 Their law is different than our law.
00:17:07.000 They don't have freedom of speech over there.
00:17:08.000 So, incitement to violence is a violation of their law.
00:17:11.000 Right.
00:17:11.000 So, when it says legal, it could just be they went too far for things like cartoons or something like that.
00:17:17.000 That's not clearly not an incitement to violence.
00:17:20.000 But, would it find out, Jamie, what that report was about the rape gangs?
00:17:25.000 I was just there for 21 days.
00:17:27.000 I was in London.
00:17:28.000 I went to Paris for a couple of days, but I was in London primarily for 21 days.
00:17:32.000 And you talk to different groups of people, and London's a global city.
00:17:36.000 It's a cosmopolitan city.
00:17:38.000 It's like New York.
00:17:39.000 And, you know, I think one of the things that, you know, they're used to diversity there.
00:17:46.000 And so they're not full on panicked about different types of people coming in.
00:17:50.000 But there is undeniably a real problem outside of London, also in London, but outside of London because a lot of the economy is stagnated.
00:18:02.000 So you're bringing people in, it's not clear immediately what jobs they'll do.
00:18:06.000 And a lot of their cultures vary greatly from the English culture in a meaningful way.
00:18:12.000 And that could be the rights of women, that could be the rights of gay people, that could be the opinions about freedom of speech, that could be freedom of religion, whatever it is.
00:18:21.000 There is a cultural tension there between immigrants, migrants coming in, and the very established society that's been around for a very long time.
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00:19:49.000 Like we were talking right before the show.
00:19:50.000 Yeah.
00:19:50.000 Is it about Dearborn?
00:19:51.000 Is that where it is?
00:19:52.000 Dearborn, Michigan, yeah.
00:19:53.000 So, we're a bunch of really progressive people, thought it's amazing.
00:19:56.000 Sure.
00:19:57.000 Bring everyone in.
00:19:58.000 Everyone's welcome.
00:19:59.000 And so, they got enough Muslim people in there where they could vote in a mayor.
00:20:03.000 And then this guy says, no more pride flags.
00:20:06.000 No more pride flags.
00:20:07.000 Yeah. 0.93
00:20:07.000 And they're inching towards what they would like, which is Sharia law. 0.93
00:20:12.000 If you ask most people who live in these Islamic countries. 0.93
00:20:16.000 Now, again, if you're asking them, they're probably under duress.
00:20:19.000 They're probably terrified of saying the wrong thing.
00:20:21.000 Right.
00:20:21.000 So, you've got to fact.
00:20:22.000 That in, but at least a percentage of them think Sharia law would be a great idea. 1.00
00:20:26.000 I think there's certainly a, yeah. 0.77
00:20:30.000 I mean, and this was covered up too, a lot of the grooming gang scandal there.
00:20:34.000 Yeah, so we're looking at it right now.
00:20:35.000 It says this is on National Review, the UK's horrific rape gangs.
00:20:40.000 So this, but there was, is this the rape gang inquiry report, right?
00:20:46.000 So who put this report out?
00:20:50.000 Members of Parliament and Restore Britain party leader Rupert Lowe.
00:20:54.000 And so the investigators had limited power, such as inability to compel witnesses or require sort of document production that could corroborate some of the most heinous victims.
00:21:05.000 Viewed with those limitations in mind, the Independent Report is a damning collection of victim testimonies that vividly portray the sexual terrorism that occurred nationwide for decades.
00:21:16.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:21:18.000 Yeah, this is terrible.
00:21:19.000 I mean, obviously.
00:21:20.000 I think they said it was 250,000 girls.
00:21:24.000 And this was covered up because the media didn't want to inflame anger against the population of migrants.
00:21:32.000 Right.
00:21:33.000 Most of whom, I'm sure, were innocent of this, obviously.
00:21:36.000 Obviously.
00:21:36.000 But it is something that, in a free society, everyone has the right to know if there are rape gangs in their country and who's operating them.
00:21:45.000 But isn't that crazy that under the guise of progressiveness, you've enabled rape gangs?
00:21:52.000 Well, 100%.
00:21:54.000 It's crazy.
00:21:54.000 But it's also incredibly, it's not shocking because the ends justify the means approach of politics seems to be what we're doing right now.
00:22:09.000 Whereas basically, if the goal is to just eliminate, you know, whatever it's being called, like this patriarchal white male dominated society, and if you want to get rid of that, And that's the end goal.
00:22:27.000 A lot of people ignore what happens in the middle.
00:22:31.000 Like, a lot of people aren't super concerned about whose rights are being respected in that process because their end goal really is to kind of decrease the power of people they disagree with, you know?
00:22:47.000 So, I mean, it's like, you know, it's hard to look at this and not see a design.
00:22:55.000 And I don't quite know exactly where the design comes from, but it's odd that this is all happenstance because everybody knows it's happening and people are afraid to talk about it.
00:23:06.000 So I would imagine that at some point, for example, countries like Ireland right now that are having lots of issues over this, they're part of the EU, and the EU would set migration policy for Ireland.
00:23:21.000 So the EU is a supranational organization that would basically say, Here's how many migrants you have to admit.
00:23:27.000 Here's your carbon emission standards.
00:23:29.000 Here's your monetary policy, whatever it is.
00:23:33.000 And Ireland is kind of in that sense, they feel like they're losing their sovereignty.
00:23:37.000 They're losing their ability to chart the course of their own country to a supranational organization that primarily seems concerned with the economics. 0.97
00:23:51.000 Because if you bring in more migrants, you can artificially grow the economy, which is what they're doing. 0.98
00:23:56.000 A lot of people in Europe are not having children. 0.70
00:23:59.000 So a lot of these economies are run by people that are not really too concerned about the cultural landscape of bringing migrants in.
00:24:08.000 They're looking more about.
00:24:09.000 How do we grow this economy?
00:24:11.000 How do we get cheap help and how do we get workers? 1.00
00:24:17.000 And a lot of it is you're getting third world migration. 0.69
00:24:20.000 Some of it's genuine refugees for sure, but a lot of it's economic migration.
00:24:24.000 People are coming for a better life. 0.89
00:24:25.000 Hard to blame them.
00:24:27.000 But do the people that live in those countries get to have a better life?
00:24:31.000 That's the question.
00:24:32.000 If you lived in Ireland, do you get to have a better life?
00:24:36.000 Do your economic prospects get to grow? 0.95
00:24:39.000 Do your children get to own property?
00:24:41.000 Do they get to have?
00:24:42.000 Health insurance and a job, and things like that.
00:24:45.000 And no one seems that concerned about that. 0.97
00:24:49.000 Like these citizens who've lived forever in these countries, whose grandparents have fought and died in wars to secure the freedom of some of those countries, you know, Britain, UK, you know, things like that, those citizens seem to not be as prioritized as people coming in from other countries. 0.96
00:25:09.000 And that's one of the big problems that they're having there.
00:25:13.000 Well, it's really interesting to watch because if there is a plan, I mean, it's not interesting, it's kind of horrific, but it's interesting in that.
00:25:22.000 It can be both.
00:25:22.000 It can be both.
00:25:23.000 Sure.
00:25:24.000 If there is a plan, like, whose plan?
00:25:27.000 Whose plan and who's benefiting from this?
00:25:30.000 Like, why would you do this?
00:25:32.000 I think it's a small group of people that concern themselves primarily with economic matters that don't care that nation states have cultures and histories and.
00:25:46.000 Customs and that doesn't really bother them as much.
00:25:52.000 And their basic response is to just deal with it and to call everyone a racist who questions it or to say everyone's jingoist or ethnocentric or anti immigrant or whatever.
00:26:07.000 They shut down those conversations.
00:26:09.000 And I think it's because a lot of people believe more in a global world and they don't believe in a world of nation states.
00:26:17.000 That have their own ability to govern themselves.
00:26:21.000 They want to take that power economically from those people.
00:26:26.000 And then eventually they want to take it culturally and every other way.
00:26:32.000 So they just want to go around the world and say, here's the way every country will look, here's the economic policy of every country.
00:26:39.000 And if the people in those countries don't like it and they express that on social media, they're going to get kicked off.
00:26:48.000 If they organize in the streets, they're going to use military authority to fire water cannons at them or shut them down or use gas or whatever.
00:26:56.000 And if there's a genuine resistance movement to some of it, they're going to infiltrate it and turn it into some psychotic thing, which they do all the time.
00:27:06.000 So it's hard to see it, not to sound like a paranoid nut job, but that's what I am and how I've made my living.
00:27:13.000 But I think it is clearly someone's design.
00:27:18.000 This isn't a happen stance.
00:27:20.000 None of this has to happen.
00:27:22.000 We don't have to invade countries, sponsor coups, steal resources, and then like drench our communities in guilt and say, now we have to bring all those people here and you have to deal with it.
00:27:39.000 None of that has to happen.
00:27:41.000 That's a strategy of a group of people that want to keep perpetuating this.
00:27:46.000 Do you think it also has one of the factors that they want conflict?
00:27:51.000 The more conflict people have in the streets, the less they're going to pay attention to what the government's doing?
00:27:55.000 Well, 100%.
00:27:56.000 I also think the more chaos in the street, the more likely you're going to be willing to accept new laws, new technologies.
00:28:05.000 And you're going to just say, I want peace.
00:28:07.000 And I don't care how we get it, I don't care how we achieve it.
00:28:11.000 And I think that's very possible.
00:28:12.000 But it does feel like it's on the road a little bit to where people want a uniform standard across.
00:28:20.000 But as you've said earlier in this, it's very interesting because this uniform standard is supposed to include.
00:28:28.000 Non binary art students in Vermont and religious Muslims from North Africa.
00:28:35.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:28:36.000 Good luck.
00:28:39.000 But I mean, that's.
00:28:40.000 But it's amazing that the people that would be most opposed, the people that, like, if you do bring those people in, the people they're going to hate the most are the people that want them in the most.
00:28:51.000 They're the ones who are most likely to say we shouldn't have some border that keeps some person from coming here.
00:28:58.000 No person's illegal.
00:28:59.000 And the people that want them in the most, I think, are not even the people bringing them in.
00:29:03.000 They're being used.
00:29:04.000 Right.
00:29:05.000 They're being, their suicidal empathy.
00:29:06.000 Their empathy is being weaponized.
00:29:08.000 It's being used.
00:29:09.000 That's all that's true.
00:29:10.000 Right.
00:29:10.000 So people that are manufacturing this reality are using those people.
00:29:18.000 These are the same people who really don't care if people in the state over have health care.
00:29:22.000 Right.
00:29:23.000 These are people that haven't spoken to their sister in two years.
00:29:26.000 Right.
00:29:26.000 And they care a ton about people in the Ukraine or people that are coming over from Syria, whatever.
00:29:32.000 But we fucked up Syria. 0.97
00:29:34.000 We put that guy in who used to be an ISIS. 0.99
00:29:38.000 We got rid of Gaddafi.
00:29:39.000 There's slave markets in Libya.
00:29:41.000 So we did that. 1.00
00:29:43.000 We sent refugees all through Europe. 1.00
00:29:46.000 We destabilized all of Europe. 1.00
00:29:49.000 And you can't take us out of it.
00:29:53.000 You can't take Western powers out of it.
00:29:55.000 You can't take Israel out of it.
00:29:56.000 You can't take the US and Britain and France and a lot of other powers that have destabilized these countries and sent these people. 0.92
00:30:05.000 Flooding through Western countries, European countries.
00:30:11.000 Yeah, fun.
00:30:12.000 It's going to be a fun next 50 years.
00:30:14.000 It's kind of crazy when you see images of France.
00:30:17.000 There was a video of France from 1998 from Paris versus today.
00:30:22.000 They showed like 1998, and then they showed 2020.
00:30:24.000 It's different.
00:30:25.000 It's a different thing.
00:30:27.000 And, you know, listen, some of that's inevitable.
00:30:29.000 The world changes, different groups of people.
00:30:32.000 You know, but then you look in Ireland, this guy just got beheaded.
00:30:36.000 In the street, which I'm against and I think is wrong.
00:30:40.000 And he beheaded some guy, a migrant who had been brought in, had beheaded, or damn near beheaded, tried to.
00:30:48.000 And there's a video of it.
00:30:51.000 And now Belfast, like, you know, it's probably quieted down now, but they were like tremendous riots.
00:30:57.000 They were like burning things down because they're like, we never got a vote on this.
00:31:01.000 We never got a vote on bringing the people in.
00:31:04.000 We never got a vote on that.
00:31:05.000 No one ever asked us.
00:31:07.000 How much demographic change we wanted in our country and how quickly, and what we were prepared to do.
00:31:14.000 No one ever asked that.
00:31:16.000 People don't like to admit it, but an armed population is much more difficult.
00:31:21.000 Totally.
00:31:22.000 To pull things off of our population.
00:31:24.000 100%. 0.67
00:31:24.000 And that's another part of the problem with the UK, with Ireland, all these places. 0.67
00:31:27.000 It's very difficult to have a government.
00:31:29.000 Diversity also relies on a very productive economy.
00:31:32.000 So New York City works to the degree it does because people can go out and get jobs because the economic reality of the city is that it can support a lot of people coming in.
00:31:46.000 There are a lot of jobs for those people.
00:31:49.000 But when you have a stagnant economy, like many parts of the UK, that's a lot harder.
00:31:55.000 It's a harder sell, harder to assimilate people into a landscape where the people there are not doing well.
00:32:02.000 Like the people that have lived there forever, not thriving, they don't feel great.
00:32:06.000 Their prospects economically aren't great.
00:32:08.000 And now you're bringing all these new people who also are struggling to find work.
00:32:13.000 So that's part of the problem.
00:32:16.000 Do you think that this is being done with a strategy knowing that AI is about to completely disrupt society?
00:32:26.000 Once I believe this is what I believe, I believe no one, for example, no one's trying to get anyone in this country to own a house.
00:32:26.000 Yes.
00:32:36.000 No, people pay lip service to the idea, but there's a lot of people now, a lot of them are my age, who have never owned a home and never will.
00:32:44.000 And no one's trying to, no one wants them, they've forgotten what owning a home feels like.
00:32:50.000 They've forgotten what it feels like to like have a yard where you can invite people over and drink a glass of wine and smoke a cigar and watch a game.
00:32:56.000 And they live in a little apartment, they type, you know, they're on a MacBook.
00:33:01.000 They're getting radicalized in any direction.
00:33:04.000 They're upset.
00:33:06.000 They're on dating apps or whatever, but they don't feel like they have a foundational core to their life.
00:33:13.000 No one has really, really even given them the idea that they're going to get that.
00:33:18.000 So I think that's just one of the things where people are basically saying, like, no, you don't need a house and you're not getting a house and forget what owning a house was.
00:33:31.000 Like, forget that that doesn't matter.
00:33:33.000 And I think part of this is because they know.
00:33:36.000 Same thing with healthcare.
00:33:37.000 There's no real movement to give anyone healthcare in this country.
00:33:41.000 And if it is, it gets shut down immediately.
00:33:44.000 So, on the positive side, you might go, well, they know that AI is coming and that AI is going to do a lot of stuff with health and it's going to help extend life spans.
00:33:54.000 But also on the negative side, they go, AI is going to disrupt the economy to a point where, like, we're not going to have people owning homes and cars and things like that.
00:34:06.000 Of people without a steady income, or they don't really know what to do.
00:34:11.000 We're going to have a lot of wealth that's existed, a lot of capital, and we're going to have tremendous inequality.
00:34:18.000 We're going to have a lot of joblessness.
00:34:20.000 So, for sure, I think that they're preparing for that.
00:34:25.000 I mean, there's no way you can look at the landscape because they're selling the country off for parts.
00:34:32.000 And this is both parties, and this is like they're selling it off for parts.
00:34:36.000 So, I mean, Obviously, something's coming.
00:34:42.000 Something's coming for sure.
00:34:44.000 And I don't know when it is.
00:34:45.000 And I'm sure the AI thing's overblown to an extent.
00:34:48.000 And I think so much of our GDP depends on it that a lot of these companies are lying.
00:34:54.000 But Anthropics are creepy.
00:34:56.000 These are creepy companies. 1.00
00:34:58.000 You know?
00:34:59.000 I mean, they're just creepy.
00:35:01.000 Well, the amount of power that tech companies have in general is unprecedented.
00:35:06.000 There's never been corporations.
00:35:08.000 I mean, unless you go back to like the East India Corporation that.
00:35:11.000 You know, you go back in the day where they had like an enormous army.
00:35:15.000 Right.
00:35:16.000 Totally. 0.98
00:35:16.000 And they took over India and Pakistan. 0.98
00:35:19.000 But if you look at what they're doing, it's very different than that.
00:35:25.000 Other than the army part, what they have is robot armies.
00:35:28.000 And then they have AI, which Elon just recently said is going to be like a million times smarter than the smartest human that's ever lived.
00:35:36.000 Like, this is the goal.
00:35:36.000 Right.
00:35:37.000 The goal is to create literally a digital god.
00:35:40.000 And it's going to be controlled by not us, not the collective human race.
00:35:47.000 It's going to be controlled by a select few group of people.
00:35:49.000 And that's weird.
00:35:51.000 And we're just trusting them.
00:35:53.000 Well, that's why you're not getting a vote on immigration levels, or you're not going to get a vote on, you know, like, I think the reality is that eventually they're going to go, do you want safe streets?
00:36:04.000 Do you want a little bit of money?
00:36:04.000 Do you want food?
00:36:06.000 You got to do X, Y, and Z. You got to believe X, Y, and Z.
00:36:09.000 And I mean, that seems to be coming.
00:36:09.000 Yeah.
00:36:11.000 And it seems like if you put people in a corner and you get them scared, they'll, this is what we learned during COVID, like, they will back down. 1.00
00:36:19.000 They'll go along with a lot of stupid shit. 1.00
00:36:21.000 They'll go to, they'll go, they'll try to find comfort. 1.00
00:36:26.000 And they will listen to people that they deem to be worthy.
00:36:26.000 Yeah.
00:36:32.000 Yeah.
00:36:33.000 You know?
00:36:33.000 They'll trust the government, which is wild.
00:36:35.000 The left is the people that trust the government.
00:36:37.000 Well, you have all these studies that come out.
00:36:39.000 You know, this is the thing that I like.
00:36:41.000 I love London and the people there are great and they're fun people and everything like that.
00:36:45.000 But they have a, you know, because they get healthcare, they get a little more from their government than we do.
00:36:50.000 There's more trust in their government than we have in our government.
00:36:53.000 And there's positives to that and there's negatives.
00:36:55.000 But they're a society of rules and customs and order.
00:37:00.000 And it is a bit different.
00:37:02.000 So I think they are more likely to go along with the grand plan of the government more so than the United States, where we really do question more what's happening than people in Europe or the UK overall.
00:37:20.000 Yeah, but that makes sense, right?
00:37:21.000 They have socialized health care.
00:37:24.000 Isn't their education paid for completely?
00:37:26.000 Isn't university paid for?
00:37:26.000 Yeah, they have good stuff.
00:37:27.000 They have a good life.
00:37:28.000 Yeah.
00:37:29.000 There's benefits to that.
00:37:30.000 Totally.
00:37:31.000 There's like a balance to be achieved.
00:37:32.000 I've always said that, like in this country, it's foolish that we don't have, that we don't pay for higher education.
00:37:37.000 Like the more educated people, the better. 0.97
00:37:39.000 Like the less losers, the better.
00:37:41.000 Part of our country is, you know, where we manufacture a lot of geniuses. 0.99
00:37:48.000 We also manufacture a lot of psychopaths.
00:37:51.000 That's what our culture does. 0.99
00:37:52.000 A lot of sociopaths. 0.99
00:37:53.000 A lot of sociopaths. 1.00
00:37:54.000 A lot of people that don't give a fuck about anything. 1.00
00:37:56.000 A lot of people that don't care about anything. 0.99
00:37:58.000 And that's the thing that comes along with the gluttony, too, right?
00:38:01.000 It's celebrated.
00:38:02.000 And they don't even realize that that outward gluttony, it just inspires all these eat the rich people.
00:38:08.000 The whole thing is out of balance.
00:38:10.000 That's what I would describe America.
00:38:11.000 If you had to describe it in three words, it's just out of balance.
00:38:14.000 It's out of balance.
00:38:15.000 It does it.
00:38:16.000 And it's hard because we've got 350 million people.
00:38:19.000 It's hard to bat, you know.
00:38:20.000 And it's like, what do the people in Menlo Park have to do with the people in Baton Rouge have to do with the people in Canarsie?
00:38:27.000 Like, yeah, I get it.
00:38:28.000 It's a weird place.
00:38:30.000 So you have all these different climates, habitats.
00:38:32.000 People have different interests, but I think AI might unite people because, like, the idea of this as such a powerful force, if people don't start getting cognizant of it eventually and start, you know, talking about regulating it or anything, you know, I do think it's going to be, you know, a very strange time if people, you know, just ignore it forever.
00:38:58.000 It's going to do something weird.
00:38:59.000 I'll tell you that.
00:39:00.000 It's not going to be like whatever is coming over the next 20 years, no one.
00:39:04.000 Is predicting it.
00:39:05.000 I get the feeling when you see a lot of these tech guys start adopting Christianity.
00:39:09.000 How about Peter Thiel's, like, that whole Antichrist thing?
00:39:13.000 Yeah, he does that whole thing.
00:39:14.000 What is he doing? 1.00
00:39:15.000 He gave a fucking lecture on the Antichrist. 1.00
00:39:17.000 There's a bunch of lectures on the Antichrist. 1.00
00:39:18.000 He's fascinated with it.
00:39:20.000 And a lot of those guys are moving into this interesting area of this is God wants this.
00:39:31.000 Like JD Vance, who's not the worst person, obviously, and I think he's the sanest voice in that administration about the Iran war, for sure.
00:39:39.000 I think he's by far one of the only people in there going, let's calm it down, which is why a lot of the big donors are.
00:39:48.000 Slinging mud at him, you know?
00:39:51.000 But again, it's just he just released a book about faith and reconnecting with his faith.
00:39:55.000 I'm sure it's a lovely book.
00:39:56.000 Haven't read it.
00:39:57.000 Fun beach read.
00:39:58.000 JD Vance is reconnecting with his faith.
00:40:01.000 Great, inspiring, amazing.
00:40:04.000 We'll get to it.
00:40:05.000 Haven't read it.
00:40:05.000 We'll get to it.
00:40:07.000 Top tier.
00:40:08.000 But, you know, it's also interesting because, like, some of his donors are huge tech guys.
00:40:14.000 And it's all of these worlds existing together where you have this world of people who are trying to build a God.
00:40:23.000 And the world of people who already believe in a God, and trying to get all of those people in the same tent.
00:40:30.000 That's interesting.
00:40:31.000 It is.
00:40:32.000 You know?
00:40:33.000 Imagine if that's where God comes from.
00:40:36.000 If this is a natural process where human beings and their curiosity and insatiable need for technological innovation.
00:40:42.000 But then what happens once we get God?
00:40:44.000 Like, let's say we bring this God in, then what happens?
00:40:48.000 Nirvana.
00:40:49.000 Nirvana?
00:40:50.000 Yeah, we all merge, it becomes perfect.
00:40:54.000 Interesting.
00:40:55.000 So we all merge and that's perfect?
00:40:57.000 That's fine.
00:40:57.000 Don't worry about it.
00:40:58.000 We're all going to merge with the machine.
00:41:01.000 Interesting.
00:41:04.000 Because people do believe that.
00:41:06.000 At one point in time, cavemen had to be looking at the wheel going, man, I see where this is going to go.
00:41:12.000 Right.
00:41:13.000 This is going to fuck my whole gig up. 0.88
00:41:15.000 My whole gig is making weapons on a stone and tying them to a stick with tendons. 0.83
00:41:20.000 Right.
00:41:21.000 And then chasing an animal and sparing them. 1.00
00:41:23.000 And now these motherfuckers invent it. 1.00
00:41:24.000 Guns and these motherfuckers invented arrows, and with every progression of technology, like good bow and arrows, technology changed everything. 1.00
00:41:32.000 Horse riding, figuring out how to ride a horse. 1.00
00:41:34.000 Well, that's like a new innovation.
00:41:36.000 Right.
00:41:36.000 You ride a horse now.
00:41:37.000 Now you can move a lot faster.
00:41:39.000 You can get a lot of things done.
00:41:40.000 Some guy figured out a wheel.
00:41:41.000 All right, drag the wheel, put a cart on it.
00:41:43.000 Now we can carry stuff with us.
00:41:44.000 More than the stuff that you could put on a horse.
00:41:44.000 Right.
00:41:46.000 Right. 0.91
00:41:47.000 Get a couple horses, they pull a wagon.
00:41:49.000 Oh, great. 1.00
00:41:50.000 Hey, this guy figured out a fucking engine. 0.99
00:41:51.000 We don't need horses anymore. 1.00
00:41:52.000 Right. 1.00
00:41:53.000 Let's make the whole ground everywhere hard.
00:41:53.000 All right.
00:41:56.000 So, we could roll around with these machines with internal combustion engines.
00:42:00.000 And then it just keeps going and keeps going and keeps going and keeps going.
00:42:03.000 And then one day it's unrecognizable, just like it is now.
00:42:06.000 If you showed Australia Pithecus, Manhattan, in 2026, they'd be like, they would freak out.
00:42:12.000 They'd probably start screaming.
00:42:14.000 They wouldn't know what to do, they would be horrified.
00:42:17.000 But do you think, like, if we showed Peter Thiel 2050, he'd go, no, that's it.
00:42:22.000 Like, that's what I want.
00:42:24.000 Like, whatever 20, like, do you think the guys now have a real idea of what it's going to be?
00:42:28.000 No.
00:42:29.000 I think there's a lot of guesswork.
00:42:30.000 I don't think it's possible.
00:42:31.000 I don't think it's possible to know what these things are going to do when they become sentient.
00:42:36.000 I don't think it's possible.
00:42:37.000 If Elon is correct, if Elon's correct, then there's something that's a million times smarter than human beings, and somehow or another, why would we let people govern? 0.99
00:42:47.000 Why would we let people build that stupid fucking rail station in California that's cost how much money and it's produced what? 0.99
00:42:56.000 How much traffic was done? 1.00
00:42:57.000 Why would they let people do that when you could have AI do that?
00:42:59.000 But if something's a billion times smarter than human beings, Beings, it's going to go. 1.00
00:43:03.000 We're not building a rail station for these fat fucks. 0.99
00:43:05.000 You know, I mean, seriously, it's going to go. 1.00
00:43:08.000 Why would we build a rail station for these people so they can get drunk and go fight each other?
00:43:13.000 Well, how about we get rid of them?
00:43:14.000 Well, maybe it's we don't even need to do that because we can make you travel instantaneously from here to there.
00:43:20.000 We create little mini wormholes all over the country.
00:43:23.000 You don't need a car anymore.
00:43:24.000 You just press a button and all of a sudden you're at Starbucks.
00:43:27.000 We'll do something very strange.
00:43:30.000 I just look at technology and I go, it's made the world better in many ways, but in a lot of ways it hasn't.
00:43:34.000 And it did stop around 2014, 2015.
00:43:38.000 A lot of the new things started that came in, made the world to me very impersonal, corporate, sterile, and cold.
00:43:46.000 Yeah.
00:43:46.000 And the experiences that you get now, like, you know, there was like, if you, you know, I went with a friend of mine, we were in a McDonald's, and like you order on a touchscreen, there's nobody there.
00:43:57.000 There's some nine year old kid going, Hey, I ordered a McFlurry, some woman screaming at him, Where's the receipt?
00:44:01.000 What's the receipt?
00:44:01.000 He's like, Nine.
00:44:02.000 He's like, What?
00:44:03.000 There's a weirdness when you take people out of everything.
00:44:06.000 You take people out of everything, and then you don't also, they have no purpose.
00:44:10.000 Especially when you consider the high number of unemployed people, checked out people, and then people that have whatever their job is has nothing to do with what they enjoy.
00:44:10.000 Right.
00:44:19.000 So, If they just do the job and then afterwards they're just watching television all day, that's a lot of people.
00:44:24.000 Just watching their phone, playing video games.
00:44:27.000 There's a lot of people that don't have any purpose.
00:44:29.000 They don't have a feeling of purpose, they don't have a thing that they're connected to.
00:44:33.000 But some experiences are much worse now than they were before they were digitized.
00:44:40.000 Like I do think there was just pressing a button and getting something on Amazon is much easier, but there was something nice about going out in December.
00:44:50.000 During the Christmas season and like going to different places and seeing people and like the struggle of like getting the thing you want, there was something I bet you were expending energy, you're walking around, you get a cup of coffee, you see people.
00:45:03.000 If we destroy all of that, what happens to the human psyche?
00:45:08.000 That's my question.
00:45:09.000 Well, if we had an anxiety meter, if we could see like anxiety, like levels of measurable anxiety over time, I guarantee you, from like whatever the age of the internet.
00:45:22.000 So it's like what, 94 or something like that?
00:45:22.000 Kicked in.
00:45:25.000 I think it probably slowly ramped up until social media came up and then it's probably significantly higher than it's ever been before without real threats.
00:45:34.000 Totally.
00:45:35.000 Like just regular anxiety from reading things on your phone and interacting with things online.
00:45:40.000 Well, people are very, you know, attached to this idea that they have to weigh in on everything, that they have to have a fully formed opinion on everything.
00:45:54.000 The horrors of the world are on full display in front of them all the time.
00:45:57.000 Yeah.
00:45:58.000 And they need to then not only view them, which is scarring in and of itself, but then they need to contextualize them in a way that makes sense.
00:46:06.000 Yeah.
00:46:06.000 Which I think is also another level of stress.
00:46:09.000 Am I a good person?
00:46:11.000 Am I, do I have the right thoughts about this thing?
00:46:14.000 Am I being, you know, so that to me is also another level of stress where like you would have never had to.
00:46:21.000 There were people when I grew up that just were really good at one thing.
00:46:27.000 And they didn't need to have an opinion on something that was happening a world away.
00:46:33.000 They didn't have the knowledge.
00:46:35.000 And they weren't forced into expressing that opinion.
00:46:37.000 They weren't forced into expressing that opinion.
00:46:39.000 And they were able to live in a much simpler way, in a much happier way, with real, genuine connections to people. 0.99
00:46:46.000 And I think the fact that nobody feels like they're able to do that now, like the generation that's coming up, the younger people, they seem better off, like the Zoomers or whatever they are. 0.98
00:46:57.000 They seem to be a little, they have a little dose of nihilism, but I think it's appropriate. 0.94
00:47:01.000 They're a little, you know, they have a good sense of humor.
00:47:04.000 They're skeptical.
00:47:05.000 They're a little cynical. 1.00
00:47:07.000 They've seen all of these institutions, you know, churn out a lot of garbage. 0.94
00:47:12.000 And I think they're into, you know, some of the crypto stuff.
00:47:17.000 They're into like, you know, they're self starters.
00:47:20.000 They're not institutionalists.
00:47:22.000 Everyone I grew up with and the generation directly under me, they're all institutionalists.
00:47:28.000 They believe very strongly that knowledge is given through an approved, whether you're at NYU or whether it's the State Department or whether it's a board or whether it's.
00:47:41.000 Or whether it's a nonprofit that commissioned to study that proved the thing.
00:47:46.000 A lot of these kids do not think for themselves.
00:47:49.000 And they're not kids.
00:47:50.000 They're in their 30s, by the way.
00:47:51.000 And they're in their 30s or 40s.
00:47:53.000 They don't think for themselves.
00:47:55.000 They've been taught that thinking for themselves is bad.
00:47:58.000 It's racist, or it can lead you down a road that you don't want to go on.
00:48:03.000 It's, you know, whatever.
00:48:04.000 It's misogynist.
00:48:05.000 It's homophobic. 0.98
00:48:06.000 Like, whatever questions you're asking, like, why do the Padres have to wear gay uniforms?
00:48:12.000 Like, that doesn't make any sense to me.
00:48:16.000 Like, as a gay person, I never said why I need the Padres to be gay. 0.80
00:48:19.000 Why are the Padres gay? 0.54
00:48:20.000 What does the Padres uniform look like? 0.98
00:48:23.000 They're making them wear gay things on the uniform. 0.88
00:48:26.000 Like pride stuff? 0.92
00:48:27.000 It's like pride stuff. 0.70
00:48:28.000 I don't think it's like a dildo on their head, but I think it's like pride stuff.
00:48:31.000 That means when they play in Dearborn. 0.99
00:48:33.000 It's not going to go well, but it's like, why is Citibank gay? 0.86
00:48:37.000 Why is Chase gay? 0.78
00:48:40.000 What is it? 0.99
00:48:41.000 Why does this help anyone that a corporation is trans?
00:48:46.000 Why is Chebana yogurt trans? 0.92
00:48:50.000 What's the point of this? 1.00
00:48:52.000 I don't understand.
00:48:52.000 Does this get people health care?
00:48:54.000 Does this make people happy?
00:48:56.000 Does this satisfy?
00:48:57.000 It makes some people happy.
00:48:59.000 It makes some people happy that I worry about because I just don't understand.
00:49:02.000 And it makes more people angry. 0.81
00:49:05.000 And that's why gay marriage has lost 11 points in support.
00:49:08.000 More people are annoyed.
00:49:09.000 They're like, we're all cool with however people want to live their lives.
00:49:12.000 A lot of, most people are. 1.00
00:49:14.000 But they're like, why is my bank gay? 0.74
00:49:19.000 When did my bank come out as gay? 0.65
00:49:23.000 And like, I'm okay with it, but could somebody have told me, like, what are we doing?
00:49:30.000 I don't, this doesn't make anybody's life better.
00:49:34.000 It is just virtue signaling horseshit that ends up doing the exact opposite of what they want.
00:49:41.000 They think it increases acceptance, it decreases it because you're shoving a worldview down someone's throat.
00:49:51.000 And at the end of the day, it's like, If I went to a restaurant, for example, I have no problem with Scientology on record.
00:50:04.000 By the way, I like it.
00:50:05.000 I like cults.
00:50:06.000 I like cults.
00:50:07.000 Children have too many rights. 0.98
00:50:08.000 Put them on that boat, whatever you do, Sea Org, make them work. 1.00
00:50:12.000 Don't rape them, but make them swab the deck, whatever they do on that boat. 0.96
00:50:16.000 And I don't have a problem with Scientology. 0.99
00:50:17.000 And I don't like the people who leave Scientology and then rat on it after it got them all these movie parts. 0.99
00:50:21.000 I think that's fucked up, too. 1.00
00:50:23.000 I think they're rats. 1.00
00:50:23.000 I think it's fucked up. 1.00
00:50:24.000 And I know you've had some of them on, sorry. 1.00
00:50:26.000 But I think they're rats. 1.00
00:50:28.000 If you do something for 30 goddamn years and get rich and famous, shut your mouth. 1.00
00:50:33.000 Have the dignity to go to your house and shut your mouth about it. 1.00
00:50:37.000 Don't then try to go on your new era, is that you're going to dime on everybody in this thing that made you rich.
00:50:45.000 Anyway, but if I went, so that's just an aside.
00:50:49.000 It's just an aside.
00:50:50.000 It's truly.
00:50:51.000 But that's the way I feel.
00:50:52.000 Shout out to Tom Cruise.
00:50:54.000 Yeah.
00:50:54.000 Dangs in there.
00:50:55.000 Dangs in. 0.99
00:50:56.000 Can you imagine how gross that would be? 0.95
00:50:58.000 How disgusting would it be if Tom Cruise went out and he's like, you know, Scientology is really abused. 0.91
00:50:58.000 In there. 0.91
00:51:02.000 Shut the fuck up, your Top Gun. 1.00
00:51:06.000 You were Top Gun. 1.00
00:51:06.000 This worked. 1.00
00:51:07.000 Whether you're gay or not, they covered it up. 0.92
00:51:10.000 They covered it up.
00:51:11.000 You said you did something wrong.
00:51:14.000 They said, we'll audit you.
00:51:15.000 We'll put you in the box.
00:51:16.000 You're fine.
00:51:17.000 Give us some money.
00:51:18.000 Live on this mansion.
00:51:20.000 It's all fine.
00:51:21.000 But if I went to my bank and it was just all Scientology for the month of June, I would go, this is a lot.
00:51:30.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:51:32.000 So to me, I think it's like this weird aesthetic politics that people have.
00:51:37.000 Where they just need to pin ribbons on themselves and go, I'm a good person. 0.93
00:51:42.000 I have no problem with the polyamorous orgy happening at Chase or whatever. 1.00
00:51:48.000 Just shut up. 0.99
00:51:49.000 This whole country right now is being torn apart by people who need to feel like they're good people and they need to project their life onto other people just to just live and let live. 0.99
00:52:00.000 People disagree with you.
00:52:02.000 That's what I have good friends I disagree with, like on fundamental things, foundational things.
00:52:09.000 And I don't care.
00:52:11.000 I don't care because I think they're funny.
00:52:14.000 I think their lives are funny.
00:52:16.000 They're bad people.
00:52:18.000 Many of my friends are not good people.
00:52:20.000 I wouldn't even introduce them to other people I cared about, but they entertain me.
00:52:26.000 And that used to be okay.
00:52:27.000 You used to be able to go, I like that guy.
00:52:28.000 He's entertaining. 0.88
00:52:29.000 People go, he's crazy.
00:52:31.000 He was in jail. 0.97
00:52:32.000 You go, eh.
00:52:33.000 You always minimize.
00:52:35.000 You minimize that.
00:52:35.000 You go, sure he was.
00:52:38.000 Maybe.
00:52:39.000 I don't know what happened between him and her.
00:52:41.000 Someone fell down the stairs.
00:52:43.000 He's fun sometimes.
00:52:45.000 And you should be able to do that.
00:52:47.000 Not everyone's going to agree with you.
00:52:48.000 Not everyone's going to agree with you.
00:52:50.000 It's okay.
00:52:51.000 Life is too short.
00:52:52.000 No, you want that.
00:52:53.000 You don't want everybody to agree with you.
00:52:55.000 No.
00:52:55.000 You want to live in a world of texture.
00:52:58.000 Yes.
00:52:59.000 Yeah.
00:52:59.000 You want to live in a world.
00:53:00.000 You want to have the Joey Diaz's of the world. 0.98
00:53:02.000 Totally.
00:53:03.000 You want to have some wild people out there.
00:53:05.000 They're fun.
00:53:06.000 And the problem with the generation under me is they're all very like this and they all went to the same liberal arts schools. 0.72
00:53:12.000 That have taught them like this orderly way of processing information, and they're all afraid to like, they like say things, they say them in a very well, well, the rape gang, they're gangs that are raping.
00:53:28.000 Well, that's bad, but there's a lot of, I don't know, it's been proven, and there's a lot of racism.
00:53:34.000 Like, they just always, they're so afraid of having an independent thought because they've been programmed their entire lives, they don't realize it, they've been programmed their entire lives.
00:53:45.000 To believe a certain set of things and their self worth depends on those things mattering.
00:53:51.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:53:51.000 The school you went to, the internship you got, the corporation whose dick you have to suck, sometimes literally, to stay in it. 1.00
00:53:59.000 That is where they derive their self worth from. 0.99
00:54:02.000 So their entire world crumbles if you challenge any of their ideas.
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00:55:00.000 Yeah.
00:55:01.000 Yeah.
00:55:03.000 It's very confusing for young people, you know, because the whole thing acts like a religion.
00:55:08.000 It acts like a cult, and you have to kind of go along with every aspect of it, or you'll be excommunicated.
00:55:14.000 You'll be kicked out, just like you get kicked out of Scientology.
00:55:16.000 You get kicked out.
00:55:17.000 And if your life is, and it's sterile, and it's corporate, and it's boring, and that to me is one of my biggest problems with a lot of people that I speak to is that they seem genuinely afraid to.
00:55:35.000 Use their mind for more than, you know, what the allotted functions are.
00:55:41.000 You mean afraid to express themselves?
00:55:43.000 Yeah.
00:55:43.000 They're afraid to even entertain thoughts in their own head.
00:55:46.000 They want to avoid the punishment.
00:55:48.000 You know, it's a scary punishment.
00:55:48.000 Yeah.
00:55:50.000 Have you seen this new Army Hammer movie that is out now?
00:55:56.000 No, but some vigilante movie?
00:55:58.000 He's great.
00:56:00.000 Fan of him.
00:56:01.000 Big fan of him.
00:56:02.000 Think he's great.
00:56:03.000 Love everything he's doing.
00:56:04.000 And.
00:56:05.000 I like it.
00:56:06.000 I like that you can't get canceled.
00:56:07.000 People come right back.
00:56:09.000 Well, I don't know if he's necessarily coming back.
00:56:11.000 I mean, this movie is going to bring him back, I should say.
00:56:14.000 I mean, what did he say?
00:56:16.000 I mean, he said he wanted to eat girls. 0.98
00:56:18.000 He was crazy. 0.51
00:56:19.000 He wanted to eat a couple of people. 0.61
00:56:23.000 You know, is that a problem?
00:56:25.000 But is it real?
00:56:26.000 Is it just crazy talk?
00:56:27.000 Even if it was.
00:56:28.000 Text messages?
00:56:29.000 Even if it was, is it consensual or not?
00:56:32.000 I mean, is it just saying wild things?
00:56:34.000 Like, what is it?
00:56:35.000 Listen, what is it?
00:56:36.000 He was his fantasy was that he wanted to be accountable.
00:56:41.000 That was his like fantasy.
00:56:42.000 That was his kink. 0.94
00:56:43.000 Now it was fake, but if it was in a situation where it could have been real, yeah, he would have tried a heart. 0.73
00:56:54.000 If Army Hammer had the money to arrange this, and some people in our country do, if he had the money to arrange it, he's tried a heart.
00:57:03.000 1000%.
00:57:04.000 And by the way, does it make me hate him?
00:57:08.000 Doesn't make me hit him.
00:57:09.000 As long as a person was dead already, I'm against it.
00:57:11.000 I would never do it.
00:57:12.000 But if you told me, this is how open I am to different people.
00:57:17.000 If you told me Army Hammer, there was somebody who died and there was a heart and Army Hammer tried a little bit of the heart, I'd go, hey, fine.
00:57:26.000 Live and let live.
00:57:27.000 Do you know the story of General Butt Naked?
00:57:29.000 No.
00:57:30.000 General Butt Naked is a guy in Liberia.
00:57:33.000 So Liberia is a part of Africa. 0.86
00:57:36.000 I don't want to fuck this up.
00:57:37.000 So let's be.
00:57:38.000 Let's check on this.
00:57:40.000 I think what happened in Liberia is they released a bunch of slaves from the United States and sent them to Liberia, like after slavery was abolished.
00:57:51.000 Right.
00:57:52.000 And I think Liberia has had a series of civil wars, like really crazy, brutal ones.
00:57:59.000 And in one of them, there was this guy named General Butt Naked, and Vice covered this guy.
00:58:03.000 They interviewed him, and essentially now he's a priest, he's a preacher.
00:58:08.000 And he gave his love to Jesus Christ and now he's saved.
00:58:12.000 But back then, he would talk about how he would go into war completely naked and then they would kidnap children of the opposing army and cut their heart out and eat it for protection.
00:58:26.000 That's certainly an extreme way to do it.
00:58:28.000 But he did that.
00:58:29.000 But then he found Jesus.
00:58:29.000 Yeah.
00:58:31.000 So it's okay.
00:58:31.000 Well, it is certainly better.
00:58:34.000 And that's, wouldn't the Mayans kind of do that or was that human sacrifice? 0.84
00:58:39.000 They did a lot of human sacrifice. 0.52
00:58:40.000 Yeah. 0.91
00:58:41.000 Along with the Aztecs.
00:58:42.000 What happened with Liberia?
00:58:43.000 Is that an accurate depiction?
00:58:45.000 I don't want to fuck this up.
00:58:48.000 So, Liberia was established in 1822 by the American Colonization Society as a refuge for formerly enslaved and freeborn black Africans to relocate to Africa.
00:59:01.000 Yeah, there it is.
00:59:02.000 Over several decades, roughly 16,000 freed slaves, known as Americo Liberians, migrated there.
00:59:09.000 While envisioned as a sanctuary, the nation later faced its own internal scandals regarding forced labor and human exploitation.
00:59:17.000 Yeah.
00:59:18.000 Interesting.
00:59:19.000 Uh huh. 1.00
00:59:20.000 See if you can find that general butt naked guy, though. 1.00
00:59:23.000 This whole story is fucking crazy. 0.99
00:59:25.000 Is this it? 0.99
00:59:27.000 Okay.
00:59:28.000 Jeez.
00:59:28.000 Yeah.
00:59:29.000 Formed his own militia of several dozen fighting.
00:59:32.000 Several dozen fighters known as the Naked Base Commandos or Butt Naked Brigade, most of whom were children as young as nine, operating under the Monrovia area with his unit.
00:59:45.000 How do you say his name?
00:59:46.000 Blahi?
00:59:47.000 Blahi?
00:59:49.000 I'm not sure how to say his name. 1.00
00:59:50.000 Became known as wearing only shoes and magic charms and eventually adopted the nom de guerre general Butt Naked.
00:59:57.000 His fighters followed his patterns of dress, which, in line with his distorted emulation of animist tradition, believed he could.
01:00:07.000 Believed could make one immune to bullets.
01:00:10.000 To fund his wartime activities and secure a steady supply of drugs for his fighters, Balahi allegedly traded locally mined diamonds and gold to Mexican drug cartels in exchange for guns and cocaine. 1.00
01:00:22.000 Let's fucking go. 0.98
01:00:24.000 He conscripted many of his fighters and, according to some accounts, laced the food he fed them with cocaine along with showing them Jean Claude Van Damme films and to explaining to them that killing people was a game in an effort to. 1.00
01:00:40.000 Uproot the fear of death.
01:00:43.000 His fighters, he and his fighters perpetrated numerous atrocities, although the exact extent of the crimes they committed have been subject to dispute.
01:00:51.000 Frequently discussed the alleged atrocities he perpetrated, which, according to Balahi, included murders, cannibalism, and human sacrifice.
01:00:59.000 He has repeatedly estimated that the naked base commandos were ultimately responsible for 20,000 deaths, a claim which has come under criticism.
01:01:08.000 Okay.
01:01:09.000 Yeah.
01:01:10.000 He's alive now and he's religious.
01:01:12.000 Yeah.
01:01:12.000 He's a preacher now.
01:01:13.000 Have him on.
01:01:14.000 And I bet he's a lovely person.
01:01:16.000 That's the thing, dude.
01:01:17.000 You should have him on.
01:01:19.000 Here's an open invitation.
01:01:19.000 By the way, I would.
01:01:21.000 He's an open invitation.
01:01:23.000 Look, he's got Jesus on his head.
01:01:24.000 He's led a full life.
01:01:25.000 And there's something about someone who has led a full life.
01:01:29.000 This man has led a full life.
01:01:30.000 There he is.
01:01:31.000 He looks like Beetlejuice from House of Us. 0.81
01:01:33.000 He's all butt naked. 0.84
01:01:35.000 Wow. 0.99
01:01:37.000 Crazy. 0.99
01:01:41.000 Imagine seeing a dude naked with his dong flopping running at you with an AK 47 with kids' blood all over his face. 0.97
01:01:49.000 I mean, that's disturbing, but I imagine that there are very rich people in our country seeing that and paying good money to see it. 0.99
01:01:55.000 One of the things that we were talking about before the show started, we were out in the hallway, we were talking about how there's a giant chunk of the world that's fucked. 0.92
01:02:06.000 And what's coming into England, it's not unusual for other parts of the world. 1.00
01:02:13.000 If you go to Karachi, life is chaos. 0.98
01:02:17.000 Chaos is making its way into these protected bubbles, and that's what's freaking people out. 0.68
01:02:21.000 We live in a very privileged, even the poorest and the worst, which is obviously, you know, it's not to minimize their struggles.
01:02:30.000 But if you go to any of those third world countries, you're very aware of how privileged you are to live in a Western country.
01:02:41.000 And, you know, it also makes a lot of sense why the people in those third world countries would want to leave them and go to other places for opportunity. 0.68
01:02:51.000 Had a lot of positive impacts on America, and it's had a lot of positive impacts on Britain and other countries.
01:02:58.000 It's not the idea that immigration is all bad or all good.
01:03:01.000 It's the idea that you have to do things a certain way because societies are fragile.
01:03:08.000 This is what we're learning.
01:03:09.000 We're learning that societies are more fragile.
01:03:11.000 When I grew up, that wasn't a common thought that our society was very fragile.
01:03:17.000 We thought it was very strong.
01:03:18.000 We actually thought nothing could break us.
01:03:21.000 And then you look at a couple of years of a pandemic, and most of the downtowns of the American cities don't look the same.
01:03:29.000 Commerce has changed in a dramatic way.
01:03:31.000 The Iran war proved that, you know, militarily, our military is obviously brave.
01:03:35.000 Men and women, they're amazing.
01:03:36.000 But, like, the changing nature of warfare has made military campaigns very difficult. 0.91
01:03:42.000 It's hard to look at this Iran war as a victory.
01:03:44.000 It's almost impossible unless you're completely dishonest.
01:03:47.000 I don't think anyone is looking at it as a victory.
01:03:51.000 So, I think our vulnerability to threats, foreign and domestic, we are more aware of that now than we have ever been, how fragile societies are.
01:04:00.000 So, when you demographic Change a society very quickly, which has never happened historically.
01:04:06.000 It took wars, long periods of immigration. 0.50
01:04:09.000 Now it's overnight.
01:04:11.000 People have to adjust to a new cultural and sometimes economic reality.
01:04:17.000 That's a very disruptive thing.
01:04:18.000 And societies are very fragile.
01:04:20.000 And you've got to be very careful about how you alter and change a society.
01:04:26.000 Because if you do it too quickly, there's a tremendous backlash.
01:04:29.000 And you have to make sure that.
01:04:32.000 People want it changed, that people are on board with it.
01:04:37.000 Not everyone, no one's on board with everything.
01:04:39.000 But, like, if you went to a lot of people in these countries that live in the bigger cities, they would probably be very pro immigration.
01:04:50.000 And because immigration has a lot of clear benefits to them, they get food delivered all the time, they have access to a wide variety of goods and services that immigrants bring.
01:05:02.000 A lot of them are awesome, a lot of great food, you know.
01:05:05.000 So, obviously, But again, if you went out into the suburbs and you went out into areas where the economies have stagnated, areas where maybe you've had scandals like this, grooming scandal, and things like that, Sweden,
01:05:17.000 whose crime rate has skyrocketed because you've brought in a lot of people from other places that are selling drugs, and not all of them, obviously, but like if you look at that, and those people have a much more negative view of it because they don't connect the benefits of it because they don't feel them in their life.
01:05:37.000 Right.
01:05:37.000 They were living pretty sweet.
01:05:38.000 They were living good.
01:05:40.000 They were living pretty sweet. 1.00
01:05:41.000 They're riding their fucking bicycles and eating herrings. 1.00
01:05:43.000 Pretty safe out there. 1.00
01:05:44.000 Pretty safe and doing what they wanted to do.
01:05:46.000 And then, you know, you have this influx of people.
01:05:51.000 You now have real poverty.
01:05:53.000 You now have a lot of people.
01:05:54.000 They also brought in people that came from a war torn part of the world.
01:05:58.000 A war torn country.
01:05:59.000 And not everyone's going to be General Buttonaked who becomes a Christian pastor and is probably lovely now.
01:05:59.000 Yeah.
01:06:07.000 You probably see him in HEB.
01:06:08.000 You're like, sweetheart.
01:06:11.000 Yeah.
01:06:11.000 Ate a few people, children maybe, but now it's better.
01:06:16.000 That guy, not everyone's going to convert.
01:06:18.000 Not everyone's going to be, you know, you're going to bring people in that are, people are products to an extent of their environment, like we all are.
01:06:25.000 So the idea that, like, you know, women have less rights in these countries.
01:06:30.000 So the courtship rituals in these countries are different.
01:06:36.000 The familial relations are different.
01:06:39.000 That's just the way it is.
01:06:41.000 So, and a lot of people there, Like that.
01:06:46.000 So, you know, why would those beliefs and systems change just because you happen to be living in Ireland?
01:06:57.000 Right.
01:06:59.000 Why would you think Irish women or British women would necessarily or inherently get more respect than your wives, daughters, sisters, whatever?
01:07:07.000 And I'm not saying that it's all like throughout the entire Islamic world.
01:07:10.000 I think there's a lot of diversity in the Muslim world.
01:07:12.000 And there are lots of countries where. 0.57
01:07:15.000 There's arguments that women are safer than they are in America. 1.00
01:07:17.000 But there's a lot of countries where that's not the case, and women have far fewer rights, and it's pretty barbaric. 0.99
01:07:24.000 And I don't know why those attitudes would change when they are just in a different physical location.
01:07:32.000 The spectacular bizarreness of it is that the really kind left wing people who oppose toxic masculinity oppose this sort of society that we're talking about, this.
01:07:49.000 This male dominated society.
01:07:52.000 Like you're inviting in something that literally has that as its doctrine.
01:07:57.000 Well, they think it can be tamed.
01:07:59.000 So here's the thing with those people they love a challenge.
01:08:02.000 This is the I can fix him version of it.
01:08:05.000 And to an extent, cultural attitudes do change over time.
01:08:08.000 People do assimilate to certain practices. 0.62
01:08:11.000 That's not a completely ridiculous thing to think, but they really believe that once all of these people come to these countries and see how great it is to be a childless, 40 year old woman working in data entry at a large faceless corporation that's gay on Pride Month. 0.88
01:08:27.000 The corporation goes gay. 0.83
01:08:29.000 And when they see how happy she or he or they is living in a society where you don't own anything. 0.99
01:08:36.000 You know what's interesting about family? 1.00
01:08:38.000 I just spoke to a comedian who went on a world tour and he was in India and he was talking about how poor people in India don't live on the street, they live in slums, which it's better. 0.98
01:08:48.000 It's better to live in slums than the street because a lot of poor people are with their families. 0.99
01:08:54.000 And they won't cast their family out. 0.65
01:08:59.000 Family in America almost means like nothing.
01:09:02.000 Like we've kind of, everything's such an individual pursuit that family means nothing.
01:09:10.000 And like that's reinforced.
01:09:14.000 Like I am in an argument with my father.
01:09:16.000 His wife has different political views on certain things.
01:09:20.000 So we haven't spoken in a little bit.
01:09:22.000 My cousin's getting married.
01:09:23.000 And I told him, I have a therapist now that I've had for six months who.
01:09:27.000 I don't know if it's good or not.
01:09:28.000 I don't know if you ever know if a therapist is good or not.
01:09:31.000 And I told my therapist, you know, my dad and his wife are going to be there and I haven't spoken to them, but I love my cousin and I want to support her marriage.
01:09:38.000 I want to go.
01:09:39.000 And my therapist goes, well, you don't have to go.
01:09:46.000 My therapist goes, if you feel like it's going to make you happy, go. 0.96
01:09:51.000 So therapy in our country has become a way to kind of enable like sick people to just become selfish psychopaths.
01:10:00.000 And family in America means almost nothing. 1.00
01:10:03.000 And it is reinforced how little family means because, like, doctors will tell you, yeah, fuck it, it's your father, who cares? 0.96
01:10:12.000 So it's basically a thing where, like, I think when you go to these other countries and you realize how deeply rooted a lot of things are in family and culture and tradition, and then we come from a country where, like, very little is. 0.97
01:10:26.000 I'm not saying people don't have great families here, but, like, you know, America is about you. 0.99
01:10:32.000 And it's not about if you don't agree with your sister, fuck her. 1.00
01:10:36.000 If your mother disagrees with you, block her. 1.00
01:10:38.000 That's our country.
01:10:40.000 And in other countries, that's unheard of.
01:10:43.000 Like, that's unheard of.
01:10:44.000 Like, it doesn't happen.
01:10:46.000 And, you know, the comedian was explaining to me, like, in India, there's like a lot less of a drug problem in certain areas.
01:10:53.000 And he was wondered why.
01:10:55.000 And he goes, well, people don't want to do drugs to like disgrace their family, even poor people.
01:11:00.000 Even poor people be like, I don't want to be a drug addict because my family's going to think bad about that.
01:11:04.000 Wow.
01:11:05.000 Whereas here, there's people that'll shoot up in front of their parents.
01:11:11.000 Like, so it's just a different, it like, Culturally, we've gotten to this point where people are having less children.
01:11:11.000 You know what I mean?
01:11:19.000 Family means very little.
01:11:20.000 So, then what has replaced that?
01:11:22.000 It's clearly the state and corporations.
01:11:24.000 And ideology.
01:11:25.000 And ideology.
01:11:26.000 So, they've replaced families and communities.
01:11:28.000 Well, the ideology is your community because you're online most of the time.
01:11:32.000 Yes.
01:11:32.000 And a giant percentage of the interactions you have with people is on social media.
01:11:38.000 So, I think that, like, that world, we have a pretty secular world.
01:11:44.000 What is that?
01:11:47.000 That is so interesting.
01:11:48.000 CBD.
01:11:49.000 Interesting.
01:11:51.000 Interesting.
01:11:53.000 I thought it was something that.
01:11:54.000 No, it's a CBD base.
01:11:55.000 I thought it was somebody gave you something that's like you're about to transcend or something.
01:11:59.000 I thought you were like, it's DMT.
01:11:59.000 Oh, no.
01:12:01.000 Imagine?
01:12:02.000 I'm going somewhere else for a few minutes.
01:12:02.000 I'm bored with you.
01:12:05.000 What's the last time you've done DMT?
01:12:06.000 It's been a while.
01:12:07.000 Interesting.
01:12:08.000 Should I do it?
01:12:09.000 Should we all do it?
01:12:10.000 Yeah.
01:12:11.000 Are you thinking about it?
01:12:11.000 I'm going to have a cigarette.
01:12:13.000 I'm thinking about maybe doing it.
01:12:14.000 A lot of people have asked me about it recently.
01:12:17.000 That spirit molecule thing years ago was an awesome documentary.
01:12:23.000 You know this Andrew Gallimore guy?
01:12:24.000 Do you know what he's doing?
01:12:26.000 So he's, what is his exact discipline?
01:12:29.000 Is he a psychologist?
01:12:32.000 He's doing these things in a country where it's legal, where you fly there and you do a five hour DMT experience, like intravenous.
01:12:42.000 He's a chemical pharmacologist, neurobiologist, and a writer.
01:12:45.000 One of the world's leading experts on psychedelics.
01:12:48.000 Very interesting guy.
01:12:49.000 And, He's creating this place.
01:12:53.000 I forget what it's called.
01:12:54.000 Do you remember the name of the place?
01:12:58.000 A lot of people right now do ayahuasca.
01:13:00.000 That's an orally active version of DMT.
01:13:03.000 This thing seems a little crazier because they can kind of regulate the dose much better and they can keep you there for a long period of time.
01:13:14.000 Eleusis.
01:13:15.000 Okay.
01:13:16.000 So, like the Eleusinian mysteries from ancient Greece.
01:13:20.000 So, this place, it's in Bakuya.
01:13:24.000 Am I saying that right?
01:13:25.000 In the Caribbean?
01:13:26.000 In March of 2026.
01:13:28.000 And the aim is to study DMTX and DMT entities and attempt to communicate with these entities.
01:13:34.000 So, one of the things that he's saying, so he was just on someone's podcast.
01:13:41.000 Maybe Danny Jones?
01:13:43.000 He's been on this podcast as well.
01:13:45.000 But one of the things that he was saying was that they keep going to the same place, that you can act like it's, they're actually trying to create a map of whatever this experience is.
01:13:55.000 So instead of doing it like an ayahuasca ceremony or doing it like you're smoking DMT and some sort of a psychedelic ceremony with your friends and it's a 15 minute experience, instead of that, they're having repeated experiences in the same environments.
01:14:11.000 Like there's actually a place that you can go. 0.98
01:14:13.000 And by regulating the dose somehow or another over a prolonged period of time, it allows you to maintain this state and keep entering deeper and deeper into whatever the fuck this is. 0.96
01:14:24.000 But it seems to be mappable. 0.98
01:14:26.000 Okay, it's the basement.
01:14:27.000 That's what it was.
01:14:28.000 So it is.
01:14:30.000 AJ from the Y Files, which is an awesome YouTube show if you've never seen it before.
01:14:35.000 He's talking about it doesn't take you to somewhere new, it unlocked what's always there.
01:14:41.000 These guys are trying to develop maps of what this is.
01:14:45.000 So they keep experiencing, they're charting out different entities that you experience, and there's a bunch of different ones that you experience.
01:14:54.000 One of them I've seen multiple times is jesters.
01:14:58.000 And these bizarre looking psychedelic jesters.
01:14:58.000 Interesting.
01:15:02.000 Interesting.
01:15:03.000 I wonder if they were the original jesters.
01:15:06.000 I wonder if the reason why jesters dress the way they do with these dangling things off their heads, because this is what you experience in the psychedelic state.
01:15:13.000 And they're trying to recreate it.
01:15:15.000 But what they have done when I've done it is mock me and make me realize that I'm taking myself seriously.
01:15:20.000 Like one time, there was like fractal, there's millions of them.
01:15:24.000 I don't know how many.
01:15:25.000 And they were all giving me the finger like this.
01:15:27.000 And I was like, and I said that.
01:15:30.000 I go, oh, I take myself too seriously.
01:15:31.000 They go, yes.
01:15:32.000 And they're going like that.
01:15:33.000 That's it.
01:15:35.000 It was like there are little corrections of your psyche that take place during these experiences.
01:15:40.000 Interesting.
01:15:41.000 It's very weird.
01:15:42.000 I'm scared to do it.
01:15:44.000 I'm scared I'll go in and it'll be fractals of JD Vance yelling at me.
01:15:49.000 It's all George Soros.
01:15:50.000 Yeah, it's all JD Vance going, you need to learn about AI.
01:15:53.000 No, I don't know.
01:15:55.000 I find it fascinating.
01:15:57.000 Well, it is.
01:15:58.000 It's definitely fascinating.
01:15:59.000 Chase Hughes is just on the podcast and he did it somewhere in the United States where they did some five hour DMT experience.
01:16:06.000 And he was, you know, it's like, changes you.
01:16:08.000 Whatever you are now is a totally different version of who you were before you had that experience.
01:16:12.000 Interesting.
01:16:13.000 Which is like life overall.
01:16:15.000 Over, you know, day after day, month after month, week after week, year after year, you become a different thing.
01:16:21.000 You're a different person than you used to be.
01:16:23.000 But sometimes an experience like a psychedelic experience can make it abrupt and then you instantaneously become a different person.
01:16:23.000 Sure.
01:16:31.000 It's so fascinating because we are having all these conversations about aliens and entities and demons and whatever.
01:16:40.000 I think it's connected.
01:16:41.000 Yeah.
01:16:42.000 I think what these psychedelic things allow you to do is experiencing things.
01:16:47.000 You're experiencing things that are already there.
01:16:49.000 That have been there all the time.
01:16:51.000 You just lack the ability to see them.
01:16:54.000 You're tuning into it pharmacologically.
01:16:57.000 They're changing the chemistry of your brain.
01:16:59.000 And it's not an alien chemical.
01:17:01.000 That's the nutty part about it.
01:17:02.000 DMT is produced by the human body, it's produced in the brain, it's produced in the liver, it's produced in the lungs.
01:17:09.000 Do you need the releases when you die?
01:17:12.000 It's very poorly understood.
01:17:12.000 Or maybe.
01:17:15.000 I mean, there's been some work done on it.
01:17:17.000 One of the big ones was Rick Strassman.
01:17:19.000 He wrote a book called DMT, the Spirit Molecule.
01:17:22.000 And he did this, it was really kind of brilliant.
01:17:24.000 He had an FDA study that he got.
01:17:27.000 This is all like a government approved study on psychedelics under the guise he wants to find out how bad they are for you.
01:17:33.000 Interesting.
01:17:34.000 So he told them, We want to study the dangers of these drugs.
01:17:36.000 And that's where he got all the money.
01:17:37.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:17:38.000 And so then he writes his book, like, This shit's amazing. 1.00
01:17:40.000 Smart. 1.00
01:17:41.000 And by doing that and then studying, they studied the Cottonwood Research Foundation.
01:17:46.000 They're studying where DMT is coming from.
01:17:49.000 So the thought was that it's coming from the pineal gland.
01:17:52.000 So the pineal gland is like literally a third eye in the middle of your head.
01:17:57.000 But now they think it's coming from the whole brain.
01:17:59.000 They don't really.
01:18:01.000 The human body produces it.
01:18:02.000 That's the most important part.
01:18:04.000 So the human body produces this the most potent of all psychedelic chemicals that transports you into another world.
01:18:10.000 How weird is it that the body produces a gateway to some other place?
01:18:16.000 Now, whether it's perceived or a hallucination, the experience is the same.
01:18:21.000 So you can get hung up all the time on the oh, you're just seeing things that aren't there.
01:18:26.000 Okay, maybe.
01:18:26.000 These are visions.
01:18:28.000 Maybe.
01:18:29.000 What you're doing is experiencing something that's real.
01:18:33.000 Like, it might not be something that you could put on a scale.
01:18:36.000 It might not be something that you can measure with a ruler, but it doesn't mean it's not real.
01:18:41.000 And I think we are very arrogant in our assumptions that we have an understanding of all that exists with all that we know about bacteria and molecules and cells and the mitochondria and then subatomic particles.
01:18:57.000 And like, there's just the reality that we've observed is so fucking bizarre.
01:19:03.000 The idea that we know what's real and what's not real, and you can say, oh, it's just a hallucination.
01:19:08.000 The reality is you go to Tim Hortons, you get yourself a donut, and you go to work.
01:19:11.000 Right.
01:19:13.000 No, I think I have a feeling that what that experience is, is you being able to see something that exists around you.
01:19:22.000 Well, a lot of people are very hopeful.
01:19:24.000 I wasn't one of them, per se, but this idea that we were on the edge of some disclosure that the government was going to start telling us things about.
01:19:34.000 Extraterrestrials and like, remember that?
01:19:36.000 Well, the creepiest one that kept going around was that they had brought together a bunch of pastors to talk to them about disclosure because disclosure is going to disrupt the fabric of society so greatly.
01:19:50.000 And the question was, what were they going to tell them?
01:19:53.000 And so, what I have been hearing from people that supposedly know things about UFOs was that they were told that religion was created by aliens to keep people in line and that humans are the product of accelerated evolution and they needed some sort of an origin story.
01:20:06.000 That made sense with rules and morals and ethics and guidelines to follow and something to worship because without that, people are lost.
01:20:14.000 And so, these aliens have created that.
01:20:16.000 Well, please let Trump say that in a press conference.
01:20:20.000 He's the president to say that.
01:20:22.000 Yeah, I got to talk to him.
01:20:23.000 He's the president to get on there and go, guys, listen, just we don't know what's going on.
01:20:28.000 The Straits of Hormuz, they're open, they're closed, they're open, they're closed. 0.99
01:20:31.000 Who gives a fuck anymore? 0.97
01:20:32.000 Anyway, there is no God. 1.00
01:20:34.000 You were all created by aliens and you were told a bunch of lies about it.
01:20:38.000 Good luck.
01:20:39.000 Keep going to work.
01:20:40.000 Markets up.
01:20:41.000 Straights open.
01:20:42.000 Markets up.
01:20:43.000 It's not even that there is no God. 0.70
01:20:45.000 It's that the God story that you've been told is formulated in a way for your tribal primate brain to accept and understand. 0.87
01:20:56.000 Right. 0.53
01:20:56.000 And that there's probably a true story to all of it. 0.53
01:21:00.000 If you go back far enough and if you got the actual events that they were trying to lay out, there's too much of stuff that's in the Bible that is historically verifiable.
01:21:10.000 Totally.
01:21:10.000 But do you think they.
01:21:13.000 Didn't tell people that because they thought it would be too disruptive.
01:21:17.000 Well, here's the thing there's a lot of stuff that, you know, when you talk about the Bible, right, you're talking about a series of stories.
01:21:24.000 Especially when you get to the Old Testament, it's a series of stories.
01:21:24.000 Sure.
01:21:28.000 And some of these stories aren't in the Bible that were a part of the religious canon of the day.
01:21:34.000 And one of them is the book of Enoch.
01:21:36.000 So Anna Paulina Luna told me about it.
01:21:39.000 She's like, you really have to read that.
01:21:40.000 And I was like, okay.
01:21:41.000 Like, she was so adamant about it.
01:21:42.000 I'm like, okay, let me read it.
01:21:44.000 So I listened to it.
01:21:45.000 On tape in the sauna, which is the perfect way to do it.
01:21:47.000 I'm listening to the audiobook.
01:21:48.000 It's 195 degrees.
01:21:50.000 I'm sweating my balls off.
01:21:51.000 I'm dying in there. 0.99
01:21:52.000 And I'm listening to this fucking crazy account that is in the same Dead Sea Scrolls as they found the book of Isaiah. 0.99
01:21:59.000 Totally. 0.98
01:21:59.000 The same collection of these religious texts. 0.98
01:22:03.000 And it's all about how the Watchers came down and mated with the daughters of man and chose them as wives and then created this race of beings called the Nephilim, which were giants that ruled the earth.
01:22:14.000 Like, this is.
01:22:15.000 In the Bible, they talk about the Nephilim.
01:22:19.000 In the Bible, they talk about Enoch.
01:22:22.000 He's referenced in the Bible. 0.98
01:22:24.000 But the book of Enoch, the stories that are in the book of Enoch are fucking bananas. 0.99
01:22:29.000 Like completely bananas. 0.96
01:22:30.000 And the only reason why it's not in the Bible, a bunch of rabbis decided that it didn't align with the Torah.
01:22:36.000 The Torah or the Talmud?
01:22:37.000 I forget which one.
01:22:38.000 But they decided, like, this contradicts some of these stories that are in other religious texts.
01:22:44.000 So we're going to keep that one out.
01:22:46.000 Interesting.
01:22:48.000 It was a collection of these things that's all together. 0.91
01:22:52.000 Who were these rabbis?
01:22:53.000 Exactly. 0.82
01:22:54.000 Right.
01:22:55.000 I mean, who were all these people that wrote these things down?
01:22:57.000 You know, I have this bit where I read out of the book of Ezekiel, and there's like hilarious parts of the book of Ezekiel.
01:23:03.000 And then there's also parts that sound like they're talking about a UFO, like these profound experiences.
01:23:07.000 And then other things were talking about a prostitute. 0.56
01:23:09.000 It's very funny. 0.99
01:23:10.000 Right.
01:23:11.000 But this whole thing is a bunch of people's interpretations of stories written down, passed down generation to generation, written largely intact once it was an original piece.
01:23:24.000 So, like, they found the book of Isaiah in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and it's identical to the book of Isaiah that is a thousand years newer.
01:23:32.000 So, that was older.
01:23:33.000 Than the book of Isaiah that they had by a thousand years, the oldest one they ever found, and it was verbatim.
01:23:38.000 Right.
01:23:38.000 So once they got these stories down, they wrote them over and over and over again, and like priests would learn to do that, and monks would learn to do that with their religious texts.
01:23:47.000 They would rewrite things over and over again as part of the practice.
01:23:50.000 And someone knows in some subterranean part of the government, they know something or many things that they're not going to tell people because it would be disturbing or dishonest.
01:24:03.000 This was the story about Jimmy Carter.
01:24:05.000 No, the story about Jimmy Carter was Jimmy Carter, I believe in 1969, he had some sort of a very strange UFO experience that was very real to him, very bizarre, saw something.
01:24:17.000 Yeah.
01:24:17.000 And part of his thing was once he gets into office, he wants to tell people.
01:24:20.000 The story is that he was briefed.
01:24:23.000 They explained to him something about the reality of the UFO experience, like what it really is.
01:24:30.000 And he was crying, that he wept openly.
01:24:33.000 So, what could that mean?
01:24:34.000 Like, what would that mean?
01:24:35.000 Well, he was a very religious guy.
01:24:37.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:24:38.000 Kind of a pussy. 1.00
01:24:39.000 He was a bitch. 1.00
01:24:41.000 And this habitat for humanity I never understood. 1.00
01:24:44.000 I thought it was.
01:24:45.000 I think he's a genuinely.
01:24:46.000 I'm kidding.
01:24:47.000 Genuinely good person.
01:24:48.000 Of course he was.
01:24:49.000 He became a president.
01:24:49.000 He built houses.
01:24:50.000 Yeah, he was.
01:24:51.000 Never enriched himself.
01:24:52.000 But he was also, if you read books about him, he was kind of an operator too.
01:24:56.000 Uh huh.
01:24:56.000 He was kind of a.
01:24:57.000 He was into the peanut stuff, right?
01:24:59.000 He was a peanut farmer or something.
01:25:01.000 Yeah.
01:25:02.000 Nobody gets to be the.
01:25:02.000 You know, he was.
01:25:03.000 Yeah, he was sweeter.
01:25:05.000 Sweetest.
01:25:06.000 Sweetest.
01:25:07.000 Like one of the sweetest of all the worlds.
01:25:09.000 He was still the president.
01:25:10.000 But so they, who is doing this? 1.00
01:25:11.000 Explain it's just the men and black people from the depths of Raven Rock or Cheyenne military or wherever the hell they are. 0.97
01:25:19.000 What they could be doing is covering up years of lying to Congress and misappropriation of funds for all these black ops programs and the way they can get out of jail is saying, because if they go and, yeah, if they go and tell the government, oh, yeah, by the way, we lied to Congress for 50 years, there's no solid verifiable evidence that Jimmy Carter cried. 0.97
01:25:38.000 Of course, there's no solid evidence.
01:25:40.000 Jamie, stop being a narc. 1.00
01:25:41.000 He's a narc. 0.96
01:25:42.000 He said, Oh, because the UFO sighting is absolutely cruel.
01:25:45.000 The Carter cried over UFO story is based on second or third hand anecdotes.
01:25:48.000 Those are my favorite.
01:25:49.000 And it's not confirmed by Carter himself or primary official sources.
01:25:54.000 I think it's true.
01:25:55.000 I think it's true, too.
01:25:57.000 About his 1969 sighting, Carter described seeing a strange light, but did not mention crying or being emotionally shattered by it.
01:26:04.000 Yeah, but I don't think that's what they're saying.
01:26:06.000 They're saying he was emotionally shattered by the disclosure.
01:26:10.000 Cried after UFO briefing.
01:26:11.000 You've got to live with that knowledge.
01:26:12.000 So he's just got to go around now.
01:26:14.000 Richard Dolan.
01:26:14.000 Who is by far one of the best guys to read about UFOs and UAPs?
01:26:20.000 Very balanced guy and very evidence based guy.
01:26:24.000 He includes a lot of crazy stories, but he never goes along with them.
01:26:28.000 But Richard Dolan's really good.
01:26:29.000 He's got a bunch of books.
01:26:31.000 So I don't know if it's true.
01:26:32.000 It's a podcast.
01:26:33.000 Is the Jake Barber guy real?
01:26:35.000 He's the guy that said that he actually had to move a UFO, right?
01:26:40.000 Yes.
01:26:40.000 With a helicopter?
01:26:41.000 I haven't talked to him.
01:26:42.000 I was just watching it, but it's too long.
01:26:44.000 These UFO guys, it's all three or four out.
01:26:46.000 Like, it's not.
01:26:47.000 Jesse Michaels does a lot of very in depth ones with these guys.
01:26:50.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:26:51.000 But the good thing about that is, if someone's really full of shit, after a couple of hours, you've got to say, you see tendencies that maybe they're. 0.99
01:27:00.000 Exaggerate or they make things up or they leave stuff out or whatever it is. 0.99
01:27:05.000 But something's going on, right?
01:27:07.000 There's something that people keep seeing.
01:27:09.000 There's enough radar information.
01:27:11.000 There's enough video that doesn't make any sense.
01:27:13.000 We never found out what those drones were.
01:27:15.000 They're all around the bases in New Jersey and stuff like that.
01:27:15.000 Remember that?
01:27:18.000 Yeah, it was crazy.
01:27:19.000 I mean, people were scared to fly.
01:27:20.000 People say it's a domestic, it was domestic, it was us.
01:27:23.000 That's what I've heard.
01:27:24.000 But then, you know, who knows?
01:27:25.000 Could be China. 1.00
01:27:26.000 Could be China flexing and pulling their dick out. 1.00
01:27:28.000 Right. 1.00
01:27:29.000 Check out what we have, motherfuckers. 1.00
01:27:30.000 Who knows? 1.00
01:27:31.000 Who knows?
01:27:31.000 But there were a lot of things that those things were doing that we don't know that they can do.
01:27:35.000 One of the things, like they were flying for hours at a time.
01:27:39.000 And so, what's the fuel source?
01:27:41.000 Because it's not batteries.
01:27:42.000 Downed U.S. pilot reported seeing Iranian drones swarm in jellyfish formation.
01:27:48.000 Whoa. 0.95
01:27:49.000 Well, they're probably getting drones from, you know, totally China.
01:27:53.000 China, Russia, of course.
01:27:55.000 Of course. 0.99
01:27:56.000 So, the highest end of high end government drones that we don't know about, who knows what those fucking things can do? 0.96
01:28:05.000 Multiple drones interconnected and moving as one with smaller drones below the bigger drones like legs. 1.00
01:28:12.000 One of the sources familiar with the pilot's witness account told CNN, real alien shit. 0.98
01:28:17.000 Another source told CNN the pilot described witnessing a minefield of drones in the air. 1.00
01:28:21.000 Holy shit. 0.99
01:28:23.000 When did this happen? 0.99
01:28:25.000 13 hours ago, this was posted.
01:28:27.000 So 13 hours ago, this F 15 got down?
01:28:30.000 Bro, how nuts is that?
01:28:34.000 They got taken out by alien drones in April.
01:28:39.000 Whoa.
01:28:40.000 So he ejected from the aircraft. 1.00
01:28:42.000 The Iranian drones hovering in the air, moving as one in a formation that resembled a jellyfish. 1.00
01:28:46.000 Fuck, dude. 0.99
01:28:48.000 Yeah, I mean, so there is a chance that it is our, it's DARPA, and it's all of these countries that are, you know, you have these black projects, they have these secret defense projects, and they're saying it's extraterrestrial. 0.99
01:29:02.000 I think if I was running an undercover operation for as many years as these people probably have been doing, And what Eric Weinstein thinks, he thinks it's like a separate branch of physics.
01:29:14.000 He thinks there's a bunch of physicists.
01:29:16.000 So, where did they get?
01:29:17.000 This is the story of the.
01:29:18.000 We went and did the crazy invasion to get these guys back.
01:29:21.000 Oh, this is those guys?
01:29:22.000 They were taken down, pilots, yeah.
01:29:23.000 Oh, this is how they got taken out.
01:29:26.000 Oh, wow.
01:29:27.000 This opens up a lot more questions.
01:29:29.000 Wow.
01:29:32.000 Right?
01:29:33.000 Right.
01:29:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:29:35.000 They used the heartbeat thing.
01:29:36.000 That was the whole thing, right?
01:29:38.000 That's what they said.
01:29:38.000 What was it?
01:29:39.000 So, the heartbeat thing was the thing that they said that they were able to locate this guy's heartbeat.
01:29:43.000 Beat his very unique heartbeat in the mountains where he's hiding. 0.99
01:29:46.000 Wow, and everybody was like, Well, that's bullshit. 0.99
01:29:50.000 I don't know, I don't know. 0.99
01:29:51.000 And it's based on some sort of quantum something or another.
01:29:54.000 What is it called again?
01:29:55.000 And then the White House said, Did you see that today?
01:29:57.000 What did they say?
01:29:58.000 What they posted something on their oh, they're gonna announce about quantum computing.
01:30:03.000 Oh, Christ.
01:30:04.000 Do you think that God's been making a joke about Q with it?
01:30:08.000 That's sort of why I asked if you guys had seen that.
01:30:11.000 What's the joke about Q?
01:30:12.000 I could I'll find the post, okay.
01:30:20.000 I think they have drones that move like UFOs.
01:30:23.000 I think for sure.
01:30:24.000 Where are they getting this technology?
01:30:26.000 I don't know.
01:30:27.000 Do you think it's possible extraterrestrials are giving us technology?
01:30:31.000 It is possible.
01:30:33.000 So, the reason White House will be Q posting today was.
01:30:36.000 They're just trolling and having fun.
01:30:38.000 And you scroll all the way down and it says.
01:30:42.000 And by Q, we mean quantum.
01:30:43.000 Stay tuned.
01:30:44.000 Stay tuned.
01:30:45.000 Look how much they're trolling.
01:30:46.000 They're Q and Optimus space.
01:30:48.000 They're the most committed people I've ever encountered.
01:30:51.000 Yeah, they're fun.
01:30:52.000 I've never encountered people who are so committed to anything.
01:30:56.000 The UFO people are close. 1.00
01:30:57.000 I mean, the Q people are 10 years in going, trust the plan, it's coming. 1.00
01:30:57.000 Sure. 1.00
01:31:02.000 And you go, guys, it's unbelievable how dedicated they are to the plan and that it's still morphing and going in different directions.
01:31:14.000 And the data centers are actually prisons for people who did the vaccine, they're not data centers.
01:31:21.000 They're still going.
01:31:23.000 And that level of commitment is what America is about.
01:31:26.000 It's about that, it's about not giving up.
01:31:31.000 Don't give up.
01:31:32.000 Don't give up.
01:31:34.000 You're too deep in to give up.
01:31:36.000 My advice to anyone in that movement stay in it because there's nothing good on the outside.
01:31:42.000 Reality is not good.
01:31:44.000 Stay in that movement.
01:31:45.000 Take it as far as you can.
01:31:46.000 What would the government possibly have to announce about quantum computing?
01:31:51.000 No idea.
01:31:52.000 What was the quantum heartbeat thing?
01:31:54.000 What was that thing called?
01:31:56.000 How did they locate that gentleman?
01:31:59.000 I don't remember them never coming out and saying because people were speculating that, like, how could you even do it?
01:32:04.000 I think somebody came on the podcast the next day and was like, that's not how.
01:32:07.000 Quantum stuff works.
01:32:09.000 Right, but I don't know if they know that for sure.
01:32:10.000 Sure.
01:32:11.000 So they don't really know what the technology is.
01:32:12.000 But what was the technology that the government described?
01:32:15.000 Because they described it as very bizarre, and there was a name for it that involved something quantum.
01:32:20.000 And they said that somehow or another they were able to detect this guy's heartbeat.
01:32:24.000 Right.
01:32:25.000 Unique heartbeat from, I think it was like, was it 70 or 700 miles away?
01:32:29.000 This was posted on the New York Post.
01:32:29.000 It was 7th.
01:32:32.000 Secret, never before used CIA tool that helps find airmen downed in Iran.
01:32:36.000 If your heart is beating, we will find you.
01:32:40.000 Wow.
01:32:41.000 So this is it.
01:32:42.000 Long range quantum magnetometry to find the electromagnetic signal of a human heartbeat that pairs with the data, pairs the data with artificial intelligence software to isolate the signature from background noise.
01:32:54.000 And so, how, what is the range on this stuff?
01:32:58.000 It was 40 miles, I think they found this guy, is what the claim was.
01:32:58.000 Because they were saying.
01:33:01.000 But didn't they say the range is up to like 70 miles, something along those lines?
01:33:06.000 So I don't know.
01:33:07.000 How long have they had this?
01:33:08.000 Right.
01:33:09.000 Is it even real?
01:33:10.000 But this is the thing.
01:33:10.000 Yeah.
01:33:11.000 It's like, is it real?
01:33:13.000 Like, so this is a post that's in the New York Post, and I think it was from.
01:33:17.000 Did someone release this as a statement?
01:33:20.000 Like, what did they do to say they did it?
01:33:25.000 The confirmation.
01:33:26.000 Okay, so.
01:33:27.000 Saturday morning.
01:33:29.000 Yeah, they're the CIA director talking about.
01:33:30.000 Yeah, there you go.
01:33:31.000 CIA's missing America from 40 miles away.
01:33:33.000 That was unclear.
01:33:35.000 Okay.
01:33:35.000 That's Trump saying that.
01:33:37.000 Not.
01:33:38.000 So these are two different or three different speeches all going in together.
01:33:41.000 I guess maybe they spoke at the same press conference.
01:33:42.000 So here's the other thing.
01:33:44.000 If that technology doesn't exist, right?
01:33:48.000 And they just made that up to cover for technology that does exist.
01:33:52.000 So maybe there's technology that does exist.
01:33:54.000 That's some sort of large scale satellite imagery of the earth that gets down to like a grain of sand.
01:34:00.000 And they can find anybody anywhere.
01:34:03.000 They could just find out where the plane is, scan the area.
01:34:07.000 Bam, there he is.
01:34:08.000 There he is.
01:34:09.000 Okay, we don't want to say we have this.
01:34:10.000 What are we going to say?
01:34:11.000 Let's say we have quantum heart rate magnetometry.
01:34:16.000 Yeah, we can find.
01:34:17.000 We couldn't find Giselaine Maxwell in New Hampshire.
01:34:20.000 When that came out, people were asking, yeah, why couldn't you even find her?
01:34:23.000 She was in New Hampshire.
01:34:24.000 Yeah, where is, you know, whatever.
01:34:26.000 Well, it could be that that technology just recently got invented.
01:34:29.000 That's right.
01:34:30.000 That's also possible.
01:34:30.000 Well, there's still missing people.
01:34:32.000 Guthrie's missing still, right?
01:34:34.000 We shouldn't have missing people then if that technology exists.
01:34:37.000 That's a weird thing, and my heart goes out to her, but that's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
01:34:42.000 Yeah, that's a weird one.
01:34:43.000 And didn't they look at family members as suspects, right?
01:34:47.000 I think they looked at family members as.
01:34:49.000 Is she back?
01:34:50.000 And I think she's back to work.
01:34:51.000 Is there a break in the story?
01:34:52.000 I don't know.
01:34:52.000 And isn't she back to work?
01:34:54.000 I don't know.
01:34:55.000 What did you say there's a break in the story?
01:34:56.000 No, I think the story got updated recently.
01:35:00.000 Yeah, there's something about a note, ransom note claim Nancy Guthrie died after abduction.
01:35:05.000 Well, you're not going to get ransom then.
01:35:09.000 Second ransom note claims she died.
01:35:10.000 Yeah, this is probably five hours.
01:35:12.000 That's a horrible ransom note.
01:35:14.000 So someone posted a note saying that she died.
01:35:17.000 I want money.
01:35:18.000 It's a ransom note that says she died.
01:35:20.000 What about what if it's she died?
01:35:22.000 I'm reading headline.
01:35:22.000 Just give us.
01:35:23.000 What if it's she we're sorry she died.
01:35:24.000 Just give us what you want.
01:35:27.000 It's not a specific amount of money.
01:35:29.000 It's just give what you feel is.
01:35:31.000 It's like church give what you can.
01:35:33.000 We're sorry she passed away.
01:35:35.000 Give what you can.
01:35:36.000 We're not going to say a specific amount of money.
01:35:38.000 So, the note sent days after the disappearance.
01:35:41.000 Oh, so this is not new.
01:35:42.000 Oh.
01:35:43.000 Indicated she had died, but contained no request for payment for the release of her body.
01:35:48.000 Three people familiar with the matter said, though the existence of the note was known, the specific contents had not been previously disclosed.
01:35:55.000 So, it's just the contents were disclosed that they knew that she was dead.
01:35:58.000 It seems like it's an inside thing.
01:36:00.000 It seems like if someone's involved that knew them.
01:36:02.000 I mean, I hate to think that, but it does feel like it's.
01:36:05.000 Was there a request for money?
01:36:07.000 What was the first request originally?
01:36:09.000 Yeah, I think it was a bunch of Bitcoin or something they wanted.
01:36:11.000 What it well, let's find out what it was.
01:36:16.000 It's a harmful thing, obviously.
01:36:17.000 I'd like to know, but it does seem like this is an inside job.
01:36:22.000 Well, someone certainly okay, the real family's involved, maybe not.
01:36:28.000 I don't know.
01:36:30.000 Hmm, so this is all bringing up stuff about.
01:36:34.000 Ask AI, press uh AI mode.
01:36:38.000 You can't do it, okay?
01:36:39.000 Put it in there, put it in perplexity.
01:36:45.000 How much do you think they asked for?
01:36:48.000 I bet 10 million.
01:36:50.000 10 million?
01:36:51.000 For mom?
01:36:52.000 Five?
01:36:55.000 Five?
01:36:56.000 Let's see.
01:36:57.000 10's a lot.
01:36:58.000 Multi million dollar payments in cryptocurrency, mostly Bitcoin, with amounts ranging from about four to six million and set deadlines, sometimes with escalating or else consequences.
01:37:08.000 Terrible.
01:37:10.000 Ugh.
01:37:11.000 This is insane, but think about it.
01:37:12.000 Is that random?
01:37:13.000 I guess it could be.
01:37:14.000 It could be, but there was.
01:37:16.000 There was some concern that it was a family member.
01:37:17.000 There was concern that it was something that a family member did this.
01:37:21.000 Yeah.
01:37:22.000 Who knows?
01:37:23.000 It's sick.
01:37:25.000 Yeah.
01:37:27.000 The Bitcoin thing's weird too.
01:37:29.000 Like you could transfer money in Bitcoin.
01:37:30.000 There was a group of people that wanted me to advertise on my podcast and it was a, like a meme coin thing and that was like a platform, whatever.
01:37:39.000 And then I was like, but their identities were shrouded in.
01:37:42.000 People knew who they were, but they were also very secretive because they didn't want to get kidnapped and they split their time between Dubai and London.
01:37:48.000 And CAA came to me and they were like, hey, they want to give you a bunch of money.
01:37:51.000 And I go, what are they?
01:37:52.000 And CAA is like, well, you know, it's crypto.
01:37:55.000 They don't, you know, I mean, demons from hell.
01:37:56.000 No offense.
01:37:57.000 Love my people.
01:37:58.000 But they were, I was like, I got to meet them.
01:38:02.000 I got to meet them and sit down and talk to them as human beings and like ask them what their company does and everything like that.
01:38:06.000 And then immediately, once I requested that, they said, okay, they'll all meet you in Dubai and talk to you about the company.
01:38:12.000 I said, I can't, I need to know, like, I know, like, you know, whatever.
01:38:16.000 They pulled the offer and wouldn't meet.
01:38:19.000 Interesting.
01:38:19.000 Yeah.
01:38:22.000 Yeah.
01:38:22.000 So there's all these shakes.
01:38:23.000 Because, by the way, here's a great way to fuck someone is to advertise on their show and then go, by the way, the money came from Russia. 0.99
01:38:34.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:38:34.000 And you didn't even know that. 0.99
01:38:36.000 Well, didn't that happen to a bunch of right wing insurers?
01:38:38.000 Weren't they a part of some.
01:38:38.000 I'm sure it happened.
01:38:39.000 It's hard to know who knew what, but like, it's great.
01:38:42.000 What a great way to just make people appear compromised.
01:38:45.000 So when somebody, when you go, where's this money coming from?
01:38:48.000 Maybe it's an intelligence agency.
01:38:49.000 Maybe it's ours.
01:38:50.000 Maybe it's someone else.
01:38:51.000 But you start going, all right, I need to sit down with you, have dinner with you.
01:38:54.000 It doesn't mean that I would necessarily be able to know who.
01:38:58.000 Like, if these guys were legit or not, but the fact that they wouldn't even meet for a dinner tells me that something was up.
01:39:07.000 Also, a friend of mine who's working at a company that's producing young shows, long form shows for YouTube creators, told me that a lot of the money is coming from Democrat super PACs because they want a captive audience to be programmed politically.
01:39:24.000 And not only Democrat super PACs, but like super PACs that are associated with certain issues and things like that.
01:39:31.000 So, what they're going to start doing is like getting behind content and, you know, funding longer form things on social media platforms and things like YouTube or whatever.
01:39:43.000 And then those companies that are kind of in the background of this will then say, oh, we have an audience of five or 10 million people watching this.
01:39:53.000 We can put political ads on it and whatever else.
01:39:57.000 So, I mean, this is kind of, I think, the future is going to be many things like this.
01:39:57.000 Jeez.
01:40:03.000 And when you can do it through something like crypto, Like, if you can hide your identity, like, who knows if it's even a real company?
01:40:11.000 It could be a company designed entirely just for influence.
01:40:15.000 It's very questionable.
01:40:16.000 You have the intelligence world, you have the crypto world, and you have the world of international crime syndicates.
01:40:24.000 Like, they all live in that world.
01:40:27.000 I'm not saying people that are into crypto are inherently suspect in any way.
01:40:30.000 Obviously, they're not. 0.97
01:40:32.000 But there is a lot of fuckery going on. 0.95
01:40:36.000 With the intelligence stuff and the crypto. 0.98
01:40:38.000 It's like obvious.
01:40:39.000 Clearly.
01:40:40.000 Clearly. 0.91
01:40:41.000 Whenever there's money, the amount of money that you can make in crypto is fucking bananas and it doesn't make any sense, right? 0.85
01:40:47.000 So, whenever there's money in drugs, right? 0.92
01:40:50.000 Like this is Iran Contra.
01:40:51.000 Whenever there's money in anything, they find a way to get a part of that money.
01:40:54.000 I think what concerns people partially about this administration is some of the crypto stuff.
01:41:02.000 I think people are concerned with some of the coins and some of the.
01:41:07.000 You know, crypto.
01:41:08.000 Well, Melania Coin's legit. 0.99
01:41:10.000 That one I love.
01:41:11.000 But the rest, I worry.
01:41:13.000 No, but I think it's a fair concern.
01:41:15.000 It is, because it's a fair concern.
01:41:17.000 It's legal, but it's like, should it be?
01:41:19.000 Is it?
01:41:20.000 It should be.
01:41:22.000 For sure.
01:41:23.000 I mean, there's some freedom to you being able to make your own coin and you back it with money, I guess.
01:41:28.000 But it's also a way that you could launder money.
01:41:30.000 And it's also a way you could pay people off for stuff and dupe people into spending their money.
01:41:34.000 You know what I mean?
01:41:35.000 Like, I think a lot of people, yeah, I mean, that poor girl, huh?
01:41:38.000 That poor girl, they got her.
01:41:39.000 They got her.
01:41:42.000 I hope she did well on that.
01:41:44.000 I bet she didn't.
01:41:45.000 Really?
01:41:46.000 Probably not.
01:41:47.000 Certainly in terms of what she could be doing.
01:41:49.000 Sad loss.
01:41:50.000 Because as soon as they get mad at you for something like that, well, then they don't like you anymore.
01:41:53.000 They think she did the wrong thing, and it's sad.
01:41:56.000 No.
01:41:57.000 She was like 22 or something like that.
01:41:59.000 I also don't know if she was going to be Meryl Streep, but it was. 1.00
01:42:03.000 Listen, the Cash Me Outside girl makes more money than anybody. 0.99
01:42:06.000 It's true.
01:42:07.000 But I think it could have gone on longer than it.
01:42:10.000 What a society we live in.
01:42:10.000 What a.
01:42:12.000 I mean, I just, that just hit me.
01:42:14.000 That just like hit my brain that she makes more money than anybody, and it's true.
01:42:17.000 I was listening to your take on the White House UFC card being the end of MAGA. 0.98
01:42:22.000 Yeah.
01:42:22.000 And that the moment when that guy said Michelle Obama's a man.
01:42:25.000 Yeah.
01:42:26.000 Well, it's just the greatest thing for if you're a deep, deep, hardcore, and I don't even mean the like the America First principles.
01:42:33.000 I just mean like you're along for the ride.
01:42:36.000 You're here for the part.
01:42:37.000 There's a lot of MAGA people that I'm friends with that are deep, they're not political.
01:42:41.000 They like the party.
01:42:41.000 They're along for the part.
01:42:42.000 Right.
01:42:43.000 They want fun.
01:42:44.000 Florida, it's 4 p.m.
01:42:46.000 They're drunk.
01:42:47.000 You know what I mean?
01:42:48.000 And they're in for the fun.
01:42:49.000 And it's fun.
01:42:51.000 They have like boat shows and regattas where like a bunch of boats will go out with Trump flags.
01:42:56.000 When they're watching that UFC event in their house in St. Augustine or Tampa or fucking West Palm, whatever it is, and that guy stands up because Michelle Obama is a man, it's the culmination of things that they're not going to beat that.
01:43:13.000 It's hard to beat that. 0.89
01:43:15.000 There were houses that cheered when that happened.
01:43:19.000 100%.
01:43:20.000 How many do you think?
01:43:22.000 Over the whole country.
01:43:23.000 It was audible in Florida.
01:43:26.000 Florida, I know for sure, was audible.
01:43:29.000 For sure, people cheered.
01:43:30.000 And it was like, listen.
01:43:31.000 Like outside bars.
01:43:32.000 Yeah, it was a party.
01:43:34.000 The fights were good.
01:43:35.000 You know, it's like, to me, it's like there's this, every cultural thing has a moment where it just explodes.
01:43:45.000 And it's over after that.
01:43:47.000 You know, it's like Hunter Thompson has that famous quote about it where he was part of this thing.
01:43:51.000 And then it just, you know, we saw it happen with.
01:43:57.000 Like celebrity culture, a lot of it, like that Imagine video during COVID was kind of the end of that.
01:44:01.000 Like, people are like, shut up.
01:44:03.000 Yeah.
01:44:03.000 Like, really, it was like they did that video and they didn't know it at the time, but people really started to turn on them.
01:44:09.000 They're like, just shut up. 0.62
01:44:10.000 And there was the other one, the BLM one. 1.00
01:44:12.000 All of them. 0.97
01:44:12.000 Totally. 0.97
01:44:13.000 Same kind of thing. 1.00
01:44:13.000 Sorry to be white or whatever it was. 1.00
01:44:15.000 Same kind of thing. 1.00
01:44:15.000 Same shit. 1.00
01:44:16.000 People just said, okay, enough of this. 1.00
01:44:19.000 And I do think that every movement just gets to a point where you've done all you can do.
01:44:24.000 You've done all you can do.
01:44:25.000 And when you are standing in the octagon of a UFC fight on the White House lawn, And you're asked if you have anything to say, and you scream, Michelle Obama's a man.
01:44:34.000 That is the clock has struck midnight.
01:44:37.000 That's that.
01:44:37.000 I mean, I don't know what else you could do.
01:44:40.000 That guy, Josh Hoket, you know, that's like he's got a shtick.
01:44:46.000 Like he's got a character.
01:44:47.000 Touch, fun.
01:44:48.000 The incredible hoke.
01:44:49.000 And so he's basically like a pro wrestling bad guy who also is a really good fighter.
01:44:55.000 Right.
01:44:56.000 So there's a real problem there.
01:44:58.000 What should have happened?
01:44:59.000 He's winning.
01:44:59.000 Yeah, and he says crazy stuff.
01:45:01.000 Well, they probably.
01:45:03.000 In retrospect, if they wanted to avoid this, probably shouldn't have had him fight on the White House lawn.
01:45:09.000 Sure.
01:45:09.000 Because if he said that at the T Mobile Arena or in Madison Square Garden, outrageous.
01:45:13.000 Sure.
01:45:14.000 But not that big a deal.
01:45:15.000 But it's the, yeah.
01:45:16.000 But here's what should have happened afterwards Michelle Obama should have made an Undertaker like entrance.
01:45:26.000 Let's go in.
01:45:27.000 All of a sudden, the lights go out.
01:45:28.000 The lights dim.
01:45:29.000 And then the light goes on on the balcony.
01:45:31.000 It's Michelle Obama.
01:45:33.000 And she comes on a cord. 0.90
01:45:34.000 She flies over.
01:45:36.000 If Michelle Obama had made an Undertaker like entrance and got in the stage and then body slammed, like, can you imagine?
01:45:45.000 Unbelievable.
01:45:46.000 That would have been amazing.
01:45:47.000 The country just exists for ratings.
01:45:49.000 Now, anyway, it's all it exists for.
01:45:53.000 It's just that's all we're doing anymore.
01:45:55.000 That would have been unbelievable.
01:45:58.000 Here it is.
01:45:59.000 This isn't The Undertaker, but this is what you guys are, I think, resources.
01:46:02.000 Yes.
01:46:04.000 Yes. 0.98
01:46:05.000 She's in the ceiling the entire time. 0.98
01:46:07.000 Michelle Obama comes down.
01:46:10.000 You see, Trump starts doing his dance.
01:46:13.000 He's doing his Trump dance.
01:46:14.000 Michelle Obama comes down.
01:46:15.000 She's got a cape.
01:46:17.000 Bro, it would be the end.
01:46:18.000 It would have been unbelievable.
01:46:21.000 And she would have been president next. 0.95
01:46:24.000 She would have been president next with no election. 0.99
01:46:27.000 No election.
01:46:28.000 Vance is going to stand up to that. 1.00
01:46:30.000 She should have descended from the rafters in a cape, fought that guy, you know, choreographed. 1.00
01:46:37.000 Just body slam him. 1.00
01:46:37.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:46:38.000 It's fun.
01:46:39.000 Fake.
01:46:40.000 And then she does an uppercut, and then he's on a cord and he sails out.
01:46:46.000 Unbelievable.
01:46:47.000 Missed opportunity.
01:46:48.000 Missed opportunity.
01:46:52.000 Because why not?
01:46:54.000 Why not have some fun?
01:46:56.000 Yeah, why not?
01:46:57.000 Why not have a little fun?
01:46:59.000 They said, or some wrestling event there.
01:47:01.000 They could still pull it off.
01:47:03.000 They could do it.
01:47:04.000 And if she's smart, she hears this and she's on her phone with her people.
01:47:09.000 Don't sue them.
01:47:11.000 They were going to sue them.
01:47:12.000 They thought about suing them.
01:47:12.000 It's like, what?
01:47:14.000 Stop with the suing all the time in this country.
01:47:16.000 Yeah.
01:47:17.000 Do something fun.
01:47:20.000 I agree.
01:47:21.000 Too much suing.
01:47:23.000 Well, there is this moment where the UFC thing was going on where the planes flew overhead.
01:47:30.000 Where it's just like, I'm like, is this even real?
01:47:34.000 It was wild.
01:47:35.000 It's such an amazing spectacle.
01:47:37.000 It's hard to top.
01:47:38.000 It was pretty amazing.
01:47:39.000 Like, as a piece of entertainment.
01:47:39.000 That's what I mean.
01:47:41.000 Of course.
01:47:42.000 It was also the only UFC card in the history of the sport where every fight was a knockout.
01:47:52.000 Yeah.
01:47:53.000 This is senior prom.
01:47:56.000 Everyone's got to go to college next year.
01:47:58.000 And, you know, wherever they go, this is it.
01:48:00.000 This is the party.
01:48:01.000 There's a moment after senior prom or some party that you have, the summer, and you're looking around at all your friends, you're all high and drunk, and you're looking around, and if you're smart, most people, a lot of them have this thought.
01:48:13.000 They go, This is never going to be like this again.
01:48:16.000 This will never be like this again.
01:48:18.000 We'll never be able to get together on the White House lawn and do motocross and watch UFC and call Michelle Obama a man.
01:48:27.000 It started when he walked down the escalator.
01:48:29.000 We went through a lot of things.
01:48:30.000 The guy almost got shot.
01:48:32.000 Who knows who did it?
01:48:33.000 No one knows.
01:48:33.000 No one seems to care.
01:48:34.000 Whatever, fine, moving on.
01:48:36.000 But, you know, he's gone through many iterations.
01:48:40.000 He's been out, he's been in.
01:48:42.000 It's the most interesting story, really, in recent human history.
01:48:46.000 And this is the party to throw. 0.62
01:48:48.000 And it's wild because we're not going to win the Iran war.
01:48:50.000 We're not going to win the Iran war.
01:48:52.000 It seems very clear that it's very difficult to imagine a scenario where we come out with a decisive victory. 0.77
01:48:58.000 So instead of that, we did this.
01:49:02.000 How is there no more open investigation into the assassination attempt?
01:49:08.000 Because that's where Kent said that he was told the story.
01:49:08.000 What happened there?
01:49:11.000 Do you want it honestly done?
01:49:13.000 Do you know who you put in charge of it if you want it truly?
01:49:15.000 And I'm being very serious. 0.99
01:49:16.000 If you want an honest investigation, put Israel in charge. 0.91
01:49:22.000 Joe, if you want it done right, have them do it. 0.99
01:49:30.000 That's all I'm saying.
01:49:31.000 Just have them do it.
01:49:33.000 Just have them do it.
01:49:35.000 I would trust.
01:49:36.000 Do you think they should look at the Charlie Kirk assassination as well?
01:49:38.000 I would trust their conclusions.
01:49:41.000 Have them do it.
01:49:42.000 That would be my thought.
01:49:45.000 Just a fun thought.
01:49:47.000 There's a lot of people that think it was a hoax and that it was a setup.
01:49:50.000 And if it was, I've said on my show, just tell us how you did it because that's fun too.
01:49:54.000 It's fun.
01:49:55.000 Pennsylvania men shot during Trump rally in Butler sued the United States.
01:49:59.000 Two men who were wounded in the shooting.
01:50:02.000 They're suing.
01:50:04.000 James Copenhaver and David Dutch were shot during an attempted assassination of Trump.
01:50:09.000 Their attorneys filed federal lawsuits against the United States for their life altering physical and emotional injuries.
01:50:14.000 Claiming those injuries were the direct result of negligence on the part of the United States Secret Service.
01:50:20.000 Dutch was shot in the stomach while Copenhagen was shot twice.
01:50:25.000 Yeah.
01:50:25.000 Does the suing ever end in this country?
01:50:27.000 But there's an argument that that was negligence.
01:50:31.000 Remember that woman, Kim Cheadle, who was in charge and then they put her back in a bunker?
01:50:35.000 Who?
01:50:36.000 She was in charge of the Secret Service, Kim Cheadle. 1.00
01:50:38.000 That's right.
01:50:39.000 That's right.
01:50:39.000 She was like Dick Cheney's assistant.
01:50:42.000 The rope was too sloped or something. 1.00
01:50:43.000 Yeah.
01:50:44.000 She said the roof was too sloped to get down.
01:50:46.000 So they shot the guy and he didn't even fall, he didn't roll off the roof.
01:50:49.000 Like the whole thing.
01:50:50.000 Well, the slope.
01:50:51.000 Of the roof that they were on was steeper.
01:50:53.000 If it's a faked assassination attempt, I don't care.
01:50:56.000 I want to know how it was done, and so does the rest of America.
01:51:00.000 Produce a special where Barry Weiss interviews Donald Trump about how they faked the assassination attempt.
01:51:07.000 Put it on CBS, where she's doing, and she's taking over CNN now.
01:51:12.000 So I think, and she's now isolated herself on the sixth floor of CBS where she can no longer see the staff and they cannot approach her.
01:51:20.000 Is that true?
01:51:21.000 That is correct. 0.98
01:51:22.000 And she's guarded by guards.
01:51:24.000 Yes.
01:51:24.000 What?
01:51:25.000 Where'd you hear this?
01:51:26.000 This is in the news.
01:51:28.000 She's in a bunker like Chaney in the Piac during 9 11, except it's Barry Weiss at CNN surrounded by guards and no one can.
01:51:38.000 And it's like a militarized zone.
01:51:41.000 She's in a militarized zone.
01:51:44.000 Barry in the bunker and Ellison at the gates.
01:51:46.000 Yeah.
01:51:48.000 Is this real?
01:51:49.000 She's unbelievable.
01:51:49.000 By the way, I like her more now and she hates me and that's sad.
01:51:52.000 Why does she hate you?
01:51:53.000 Well, you know, I've said things, but here's the thing.
01:51:58.000 I like her more now than she did.
01:52:00.000 Did she start hating you after your hilarious impression? 0.95
01:52:04.000 She's turned on me a while ago.
01:52:09.000 Turned on you how?
01:52:10.000 She texted me and was like, You're part of a world in which people are anti Semitic.
01:52:16.000 And I'm like, Well, what am I doing?
01:52:19.000 And she's like, You're part of this thing.
01:52:21.000 And I was like, Well, that's like, Why am I?
01:52:26.000 What is this guilt by association?
01:52:29.000 I don't like this. 0.95
01:52:29.000 Part of a thing that's anti Semitic. 0.95
01:52:32.000 It's like you're part of a cultural space of anti Semitism.
01:52:34.000 And I'm like, so is she connecting you to anti Semites?
01:52:37.000 She's connecting me to all these different people because the thing that she hated and the thing that she crusaded against was this whole idea that she's applying the same principles that she supposedly didn't like, which is like if you're willing to have a conversation with somebody, you endorse every one of their views.
01:52:54.000 Or if you question something like Israel, you hate Israel. 0.92
01:52:58.000 Or you hate Jewish people, which is insane. 0.99
01:53:01.000 And that was. 0.99
01:53:01.000 Right. 0.99
01:53:02.000 I thought she was the one who was like, we should have nuance on the trans issue.
01:53:05.000 What happened to that?
01:53:06.000 What happened to being able to question gender ideology and all these things? 0.82
01:53:10.000 Like, why aren't we, where's the nuance?
01:53:13.000 Where's the, why aren't we holding space for nuance, bear?
01:53:18.000 CBS News boss Barry Weiss poised to oversee CNN editorial operations.
01:53:23.000 Yeah, this is what he just said, right?
01:53:24.000 Yeah, I saw that.
01:53:25.000 But she's living her best life, as people would say, this is what she was meant to do.
01:53:28.000 And when someone steps into their truth, I support them.
01:53:32.000 And she has stepped into her truth.
01:53:34.000 She's exactly where she should be in a bunker guarded by the military while she systematically destroys CBS.
01:53:42.000 She's stepping into her truth.
01:53:43.000 This is what she was there.
01:53:44.000 She was put there to destroy it.
01:53:47.000 She was obviously put there to destroy it. 0.65
01:53:48.000 She wasn't put there to make it work, she was put there to just destroy it.
01:53:52.000 And she's doing it.
01:53:54.000 Do you think they understood the amount of pushback that they were going to get?
01:53:58.000 I think they said, listen, let's just put her in there and see what happens because who cares?
01:53:58.000 I don't think they could.
01:54:05.000 It's like these legacy media institutions are dying.
01:54:11.000 They're not turning around.
01:54:14.000 No one's going back to watching the evening news.
01:54:17.000 And they know that.
01:54:18.000 These are billionaires. 0.99
01:54:19.000 They're not idiots. 1.00
01:54:20.000 The Ellisons are not dumb. 1.00
01:54:22.000 They said, let's have a little fun while this thing goes.
01:54:25.000 It says she took the helm of the struggling organization last month with a mandate to shake it up following David Ellison led Skydance takeover of CBS parent company Paramount in 2024.
01:54:37.000 Paramount Skydance bought Weiss' online outlet, The Free Press, for a cool $150 million as she became editor in chief of CBS News.
01:54:46.000 Yeah.
01:54:47.000 That's a lot of money.
01:54:48.000 For the free press?
01:54:49.000 Well, no, because if you look at the podcast ratings, it was always you, and then she was number two.
01:54:53.000 Wow.
01:54:54.000 So that's why. 1.00
01:54:55.000 No, she would get 7,000 YouTube views.
01:55:01.000 And it seems high.
01:55:02.000 It certainly seems like a lot.
01:55:04.000 But, you know, when you take into account her cultural impact.
01:55:09.000 It's interesting because, like, when it came to her pushing against woke ideology that had infected the New York Times, she seemed really reasonable.
01:55:17.000 And there's this very famous clip of her talking to Brian Stelter.
01:55:21.000 Where she talks about the world gone crazy.
01:55:23.000 The world gone mad?
01:55:23.000 Remember that?
01:55:24.000 Yes.
01:55:25.000 Where she's like very brilliantly lays out why, if this is what you're saying, you know, when people are saying that silence is violence and not actual violence is violence, the world's gone mad.
01:55:38.000 Right.
01:55:39.000 And she lays these all out.
01:55:40.000 It's so brilliant.
01:55:41.000 Well, there's got to be room for nuance.
01:55:43.000 Like October 7th was horrible.
01:55:45.000 Hamas is not good.
01:55:46.000 We all know this.
01:55:47.000 However, you also cannot look at what's gone on the last few years and think that.
01:55:54.000 Israel has not number one perpetrated, you could call it, I call it a genocide.
01:55:58.000 People can call it anything they want.
01:55:59.000 Doesn't matter.
01:56:01.000 It's a campaign of mass murder where a lot of people have died.
01:56:04.000 Civilians have died.
01:56:05.000 Many children have died.
01:56:06.000 People that are innocent have died.
01:56:08.000 And they're starting to do something similar in southern Lebanon. 0.99
01:56:12.000 And they're now talking about Turkey, going, by the way, Turkey also is a NATO fucking country. 0.95
01:56:19.000 So the idea that any criticism of Netanyahu or the Israeli government or Israel or our relationship with Israel or the money. 0.99
01:56:27.000 Makes you anti Semitic is an insane thing. 0.63
01:56:30.000 It's the exact thing that she fought against in race and gender. 0.86
01:56:37.000 She fought against that Manichaean good and evil, black and white. 1.00
01:56:41.000 She fought against it. 0.95
01:56:42.000 And she was right.
01:56:44.000 She was correct to say you should be able to have conversations about when it is appropriate for a child to be exposed to certain ideas and when they should be able to make a determination about how they want to live their life.
01:56:57.000 And like, when is it appropriate for, um, People to call, you know, to designate between a protest and a legit and a riot, and the silence is violence, and all of that stuff.
01:57:11.000 She had really pretty logical opinions on all that stuff.
01:57:15.000 But when it came to that one issue, she seems very incapable of understanding any nuance or gray area or complexity regarding this particular issue. 1.00
01:57:25.000 No, she is all in for Israel. 0.97
01:57:27.000 And that's fine. 0.92
01:57:28.000 That's her choice, and I get it.
01:57:32.000 But it's so obvious when a Mark Levin goes, The president's great because we're going into Iran.
01:57:37.000 He goes, The president's great.
01:57:39.000 He's the greatest leader of all time.
01:57:40.000 And then he goes, Well, this didn't work out like we thought.
01:57:42.000 We're going to make a deal and we're going to try to, you know.
01:57:46.000 And then Mark Levin goes, This is a failure.
01:57:50.000 This is a blunder.
01:57:51.000 This is a strategic thing.
01:57:52.000 And it's like, For who?
01:57:55.000 Is it for us?
01:57:56.000 It's not a failure.
01:57:57.000 It's clearly a failure for us. 0.75
01:57:59.000 But it seems like the bigger failure would be for Israel that wants Iran neutered because they have aspirations regionally. 0.83
01:58:06.000 Globally, but certainly regionally. 0.81
01:58:08.000 So, who's it a failure for?
01:58:10.000 And that's a fair question.
01:58:12.000 I think it's like there's you've got to be able to have that conversation without being tarred and feathered as someone who's like a conspiracy mongering anti Semite, which is like very there's a group of people that are, but a lot of people just want sanity.
01:58:31.000 And this is not this is not sane. 0.97
01:58:33.000 And just like you were talking about with the banks forcing that shit down people's throats, that it's going to make them, yeah, yes, same thing. 0.99
01:58:40.000 Nobody understands blowback. 1.00
01:58:42.000 Like the CIA turned blowback when you like go into a country, kill everyone, and then go. 0.64
01:58:46.000 You like us, right?
01:58:47.000 They go, no, not really.
01:58:51.000 We killed your mother, but we're sorry, but you want the mall?
01:58:55.000 We're going to build a mall. 1.00
01:58:56.000 They go, no, we're going to bomb you and try to kill you. 1.00
01:58:59.000 This is blowback. 0.99
01:59:00.000 There's blowback when you shut down conversations. 1.00
01:59:05.000 And in order to shut people up, you got to pay them or kill them. 0.99
01:59:09.000 That's the only way to do it. 1.00
01:59:10.000 If you don't pay people a lot of money or kill them, they're going to talk. 0.84
01:59:15.000 And if you limit that, They're going to get angrier and the blowback is going to be intense. 0.92
01:59:24.000 Well said.
01:59:25.000 Yeah.
01:59:25.000 Yeah.
01:59:26.000 I mean, that's entirely accurate.
01:59:27.000 CBS News, I'll go on.
01:59:29.000 That's the thing. 1.00
01:59:30.000 I have no beef with her. 1.00
01:59:31.000 I like her.
01:59:32.000 I like that she's in a bunker.
01:59:33.000 I will go on to that show.
01:59:35.000 One of the things that I thought was hilarious that was some fake story was that they were going to bring me on for 60 minutes.
01:59:35.000 I'm there.
01:59:41.000 Everyone keeps saying that.
01:59:42.000 I texted you about it.
01:59:43.000 I'm like, are you doing 60 minutes?
01:59:45.000 I thought that was wild, but why not?
01:59:48.000 I mean, what, you know, Half the staff has left.
01:59:52.000 One of that guy, that guy Bill Pelly, just got out.
01:59:54.000 Yeah. 0.89
01:59:55.000 She got out and then she's got that Dokopol, whatever his name is, in the evening news crying like a psychopath. 0.76
02:00:00.000 Who's that? 0.55
02:00:01.000 He's the guy who does the CBS Evening News and his first episode, he's in Miami and he's crying.
02:00:07.000 Can you get that up?
02:00:08.000 It's unbelievable.
02:00:09.000 He's the anchor of the news.
02:00:10.000 Why is he crying?
02:00:11.000 He's crying because he starts talking about his family and how he grew up in Miami.
02:00:15.000 It's unbelievable.
02:00:17.000 This is the guy who was selected to run the CBS Evening News, to be the anchor of the CBS Evening News.
02:00:24.000 And like he does this thing where he's in Miami and they take him out of the chair because they want to start.
02:00:30.000 She's shaking it up.
02:00:32.000 Barry's shaking it up.
02:00:33.000 So instead of sitting at a desk and doing the thing, they bring him to Miami to like visit his childhood places.
02:00:41.000 And he starts sobbing in a restaurant or something.
02:00:47.000 Jamie, you can find it.
02:00:50.000 He's crying in like a restaurant or he gets like choked up and it's deeply uncomfortable and it's really weird.
02:00:58.000 And he starts talking about how he had a hard childhood.
02:01:01.000 It's like unbelievable.
02:01:03.000 This is the guy.
02:01:05.000 Embarrassing first days, CBS TV News, savage by staff.
02:01:09.000 It's state TV.
02:01:11.000 Whoa.
02:01:12.000 A conversation with one of his handlers during an ad break.
02:01:16.000 Pete Hegseth said during his interview with Tony, how do you say his name?
02:01:20.000 Docopol.
02:01:21.000 Docopol.
02:01:22.000 We did it at Barry's request and because CBS News did something right on this.
02:01:28.000 I wish you had him crying.
02:01:30.000 I wish you had him in that restaurant.
02:01:32.000 So, his Marco Rubio's moment is what he's talking about?
02:01:37.000 No.
02:01:37.000 He's in Miami and in Dokopul.
02:01:39.000 I mean, yeah, this is psychotic.
02:01:43.000 So, he just keeps crying?
02:01:46.000 Maybe that's his thing.
02:01:47.000 You know, like George Hamilton was tan all the time?
02:01:49.000 He's crying.
02:01:50.000 He's talking about.
02:01:52.000 Yeah, look at this.
02:01:53.000 Is this it?
02:01:53.000 This is the anchor of the CBS Evening News.
02:01:53.000 Look at this.
02:01:56.000 Yeah, can we listen to this?
02:01:56.000 So, he's being interviewed?
02:01:58.000 I can't.
02:01:59.000 Facebook's weird. 1.00
02:02:00.000 Damn it. 0.99
02:02:01.000 Doesn't let me control the player goes. 0.99
02:02:03.000 There's an officer show up.
02:02:08.000 Can we get a second here?
02:02:09.000 Yeah, check it from the beginning so you know what he's crying about.
02:02:14.000 What makes me emotional?
02:02:15.000 It's so funny.
02:02:16.000 I didn't mean anything would catch it.
02:02:18.000 You know, this is your favorite place in the world.
02:02:25.000 Why?
02:02:26.000 Why South Florida and Miami?
02:02:31.000 What makes me emotional?
02:02:32.000 It's so funny.
02:02:33.000 I didn't mean anything would catch it.
02:02:34.000 You know, Because you only have one childhood, right?
02:02:42.000 So, let me get a second here.
02:02:46.000 Oh, you're okay.
02:02:47.000 This is home.
02:02:47.000 I can relate.
02:02:53.000 To help people understand why I have such a reaction, Florida is where I grew up.
02:03:09.000 We didn't get a lot of sleep.
02:03:10.000 No, it's okay.
02:03:11.000 My grandmother's here, my father, my mother, my aunts and uncles, cousins.
02:03:17.000 And it's where I would have spent all of my childhood, but we left.
02:03:23.000 Because of my father, he got in some trouble with business.
02:03:25.000 It's like, we laugh about it now, but he was a drug dealer.
02:03:28.000 But he was a drug dealer, he went to jail.
02:03:31.000 It's kind of a ha ha thing that we say now.
02:03:33.000 But the reason it's so emotional for me is because.
02:03:37.000 I feel like I'm a rock.
02:03:38.000 It's kind of a ha ha thing.
02:03:40.000 He's this head of the CBS Evening News.
02:03:42.000 He's the anchor of the CBS Evening News.
02:03:48.000 This is what drives everyone so crazy about the world, how fake everything is.
02:03:52.000 That's the guy.
02:03:54.000 That's the best guy for the job. 1.00
02:03:57.000 This is when I grew up, you would go see Whitney Houston and go, fuck, she's good. 1.00
02:04:01.000 I can't sing like that. 1.00
02:04:03.000 Who cares if she smokes crack? 1.00
02:04:05.000 She deserves it. 1.00
02:04:07.000 You watch this and it drives you insane.
02:04:09.000 You go, this guy's crying. 0.98
02:04:11.000 His father's a drug dealer.
02:04:12.000 This is who's the best guy for the job.
02:04:16.000 He's going to have to report on death, like murder, war, famine, whatever. 1.00
02:04:25.000 And he's crying in a fucking Cuban restaurant about his drug dealer father. 0.99
02:04:31.000 So they had to leave Miami. 1.00
02:04:33.000 No one believes anything's real anymore.
02:04:36.000 This is a huge problem in our world.
02:04:38.000 People go, that's the guy.
02:04:41.000 That's the anchor of the CBS Evening News?
02:04:43.000 It's crazy.
02:04:44.000 Well, the other guy who was on, a bunch of people attacked him after he left, right?
02:04:48.000 So he left and apparently he made it very public.
02:04:51.000 Scott Pelly or something.
02:04:51.000 Yes.
02:04:53.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:04:53.000 Big public outpour.
02:04:54.000 So what was he pissed about?
02:04:56.000 He was saying something about they were going against science or some of it had to do, I believe, with climate change.
02:05:04.000 Some of it had to do with a bunch of other things that he disagreed with the news organization.
02:05:07.000 Let's find out what his exact complaints were.
02:05:11.000 Yeah, let's find out.
02:05:12.000 I don't know what they were.
02:05:13.000 You know, Barry chairs the meetings there and really goes on and embarrasses herself and on the calls and stuff has no idea what she's talking about.
02:05:25.000 So here it is.
02:05:26.000 Following his criticism, news editor Barry Weiss, 60 Minutes executive producer Nick Bilton at a staff meeting, Pelly was fired by CBS News.
02:05:36.000 What did he say?
02:05:37.000 When CBS fired Pelly, Bilton wrote a cover letter which obtained by the New York Times.
02:05:43.000 Bilton stated as follows Your antipathy?
02:05:45.000 Antipathy to the future of the show has come through loud and clear, and I have heard you, therefore, write on behalf of CBS News, Inc. to inform you that your employment with CBS is terminated for cause effective immediately.
02:05:59.000 Next day, Weiss said, I'm only interested in working in a newsroom that is built on trust and mutual respect.
02:06:06.000 Okay.
02:06:06.000 So, what did he say?
02:06:09.000 Pelly accused the new CBS leadership of instructing him to insert falsehoods into a political story.
02:06:18.000 And to include assertions that were not verified, instructions he says he ignored.
02:06:22.000 The collapse of values at the top has become untenable.
02:06:26.000 The leadership at 60 Minutes is no longer recognizable.
02:06:29.000 The principles I hold dear are gone, and so I must leave as well.
02:06:34.000 I wonder what exactly they meant, though, by the falsehoods in a political story and including assertions that were not verified.
02:06:40.000 Well, here it is.
02:06:41.000 It says the story CBS intervened on was a report about the 2026 protests in Minnesota.
02:06:48.000 And the falsehood CBS asked for was to describe protester Renee Goode as driving her car toward the officer who killed her, which Pelly said contradicts video evidence of the event.
02:07:00.000 Video evidence of the event.
02:07:01.000 That's correct.
02:07:03.000 It seemed to me that he was the lady was trying to turn the car away from him, but it did brush up against the guy, which is enough for him to decide the killer.
02:07:14.000 Well, you know, but it wasn't, it was not, she was trying to run him over.
02:07:18.000 No, and I think it, but however, that guy had been dragged by a car very recently.
02:07:24.000 Totally.
02:07:24.000 So he's probably filled with PTSD.
02:07:26.000 He almost fucking died. 0.99
02:07:27.000 I think he got dragged like 300 yards, rather. 1.00
02:07:30.000 I think it's fair to ask at this point.
02:07:31.000 300 feet?
02:07:32.000 Yeah, but I think it's also fair to ask at this point, like, what is the media?
02:07:35.000 Like, what is the media?
02:07:36.000 Like, all due respect to Barry Weiss, but like, so it was a heavily inflated price for her blog that she sold, YouTube channel, whatever.
02:07:46.000 It's clearly, there's clearly a political agenda to this.
02:07:49.000 You have billionaires that own all of these companies, and we're asked to believe that like she's the most qualified for the job, even though she's never ran a newsroom. 0.91
02:07:59.000 She didn't like work her way up the ranks. 0.56
02:08:00.000 She's an op ed columnist, an opinion writer, and stuff like that. 1.00
02:08:04.000 Great.
02:08:05.000 She made a lot of sense.
02:08:06.000 We said it before.
02:08:08.000 And then she appoints, hires this guy who's crying in a restaurant in Miami about his dad.
02:08:14.000 And it's like, who the hell's that guy?
02:08:16.000 So I think it's fair to ask do we have any trust left in these institutions?
02:08:23.000 Do we have any trust left?
02:08:24.000 And like people that work there are leaving and saying, I'm being asked to insert things into this that isn't true?
02:08:30.000 Well, that alone, just that alone, like driving the car towards the officer, that's not, that's just not technically correct.
02:08:37.000 Right.
02:08:37.000 It seems like she was steering it away.
02:08:39.000 Why would they want to say, Something that's not correct when you could just see it in a video.
02:08:44.000 Like, if you were running a newsroom, that would be the last thing you would want to do is contradict something that's obviously verifiable.
02:08:52.000 So, that would, for what reason would you sacrifice your credibility?
02:08:57.000 Because that's essentially what it's doing.
02:08:59.000 It's such a short term play.
02:09:01.000 Yes, but I'll tell you exactly why.
02:09:03.000 Okay.
02:09:04.000 Because their main demographic is 70 year olds who are having strokes on their couch.
02:09:10.000 They're not verifying this.
02:09:11.000 They're not, they have a very old audience that is not.
02:09:16.000 Online savvy, they're not looking at many angles, they have cataracts, and they're hearing this, and it allows them to dismiss it as well, she did the wrong, you know, she drove justifiable shooting.
02:09:29.000 Yeah, I don't think they're.
02:09:31.000 But somebody's motivating them to do that for those people.
02:09:33.000 Well, for sure.
02:09:34.000 Yeah, for sure.
02:09:35.000 But why?
02:09:35.000 Yeah, well, because she's in the tank for Trump, because Trump promised, or maybe didn't promise, but like whatever, he's useful in the sense that he's going to go in and topple the regime in Iran.
02:09:46.000 He's going to sue all these, you know, or he's going to bring Harvard College to heel for whatever the hell they did.
02:09:53.000 And, you know, she believes that, and again, a lot of this is just connected to her view that, you know, Israel's interests are always 100% concurrent with America's.
02:10:07.000 And Trump gets that and he understands that.
02:10:09.000 So she's in the tank for Trump, which, by the way, if Biden would have invaded Iran, she would have started protecting him.
02:10:16.000 It doesn't seem like it's.
02:10:18.000 She doesn't care that much about a ton of issues.
02:10:21.000 It seems to be that this is her big issue.
02:10:24.000 That's a disturbing thing to a lot of people.
02:10:26.000 Like, how much influence do they really have on this country?
02:10:30.000 That's what creeps people out because I think no one even really considered it before October 7th.
02:10:35.000 It wasn't, I mean, I'm sure people considered it.
02:10:38.000 Nick Fuentes considered it.
02:10:39.000 But it wasn't like it was an openly discussed thing amongst young people.
02:10:44.000 Right.
02:10:45.000 It wasn't until we started realizing, first of all, it was AIPAC.
02:10:50.000 It was the weirdness of the New York City mayoral race.
02:10:55.000 Yeah, of course.
02:10:56.000 Very weird. 1.00
02:10:57.000 Where they were all like, we're going to visit Israel.
02:10:59.000 Like, what?
02:11:00.000 Well, it's also in direct opposition to the stated goal of the Trump administration, which is to repair the United States and to make it great and to elevate it and to focus on the United States and to not go into Middle Eastern wars, which was a huge, very popular plank of his platform, and to not waste money and saddle ourselves with debt and mire ourselves in these unwinnable wars.
02:11:27.000 And there was such a gaslighting campaign.
02:11:28.000 The Secretary of State came out after the Iran war and goes, Well, Israel is going to attack them anyway, and our bases were going to be vulnerable, so we had to join.
02:11:36.000 And then he went, No, I didn't mean that.
02:11:39.000 I didn't really mean that.
02:11:40.000 We're partners, and we both think it's a great idea.
02:11:42.000 And there was tremendous pressure on him to do this.
02:11:47.000 And, you know, it hasn't worked.
02:11:49.000 And it's clearly not in the interest of the United States to be in a Middle Eastern war with Iran.
02:11:54.000 Tons of Jewish people don't believe it is.
02:11:57.000 Lots of, you know, people from all walks of life don't believe it.
02:12:02.000 But there's an ideological group of people.
02:12:05.000 That donate a lot of money and that are incredibly powerful, and they are really pushing this.
02:12:11.000 They're pushing troops and they're pushing nukes.
02:12:15.000 Or unconventional weapons, like crazy bombing campaigns.
02:12:19.000 They're pushing troops on the ground.
02:12:21.000 They don't care what it takes. 0.82
02:12:24.000 Iran has to be either completely destroyed or it's just got to be a chaos zone. 0.81
02:12:30.000 But for the regional ambitions of Israel, it can't exist. 0.92
02:12:35.000 So, I mean, again, and not in a paranoid, conspiratorial way, because I don't like the victim stuff either, as a bunch of people in America being like, I can't get ahead because Jewish people are successful. 0.99
02:12:44.000 I think that's a stupid road to go down. 0.99
02:12:46.000 That's a victim road. 1.00
02:12:47.000 I hate that. 1.00
02:12:48.000 I hate it when gay people do it or anyone, any group of people, I hate when they drench themselves in victimhood. 1.00
02:12:48.000 I hate it. 1.00
02:12:55.000 I think when you become a victim, you lose autonomy over your life.
02:12:59.000 It's insane.
02:13:00.000 But I do think there's a fair question to ask about what is, you know, What is the motive of certain massive big donors?
02:13:14.000 Is the motive the strength and prosperity of America or is it the strength and prosperity of Israel?
02:13:21.000 That's a fair question. 0.77
02:13:23.000 Yeah.
02:13:24.000 And like, what about the rest of the world?
02:13:27.000 Like, how much are we putting ourselves at odds with the rest of the world?
02:13:34.000 Indescribably the worst PR ever.
02:13:38.000 And, you know, people cannot.
02:13:42.000 Justify, you know, you've got to be a very ideological person to justify, you know, southern Lebanon, Gaza, Iran, perhaps Turkey.
02:13:54.000 This is starting to feel like this is like a friend you have who you make excuses for for a certain amount of time.
02:14:01.000 And then your wife eventually goes, they're not allowed here.
02:14:04.000 You can't go out with them. 0.94
02:14:06.000 They're a problem. 1.00
02:14:07.000 They have a fucked up home life. 1.00
02:14:09.000 I know they're fun. 1.00
02:14:10.000 I know you share values.
02:14:13.000 I know they enjoy each other.
02:14:14.000 You've known each other for a long time.
02:14:16.000 But here's the deal.
02:14:18.000 They're not coming to the house and they can't be around the kids because, you know, that's what it's coming down to.
02:14:23.000 Well, it's even worse than that.
02:14:25.000 The thing that drives me crazy is the negotiators.
02:14:27.000 When they get negotiators, then they wind up whacking them. 0.97
02:14:29.000 They kill all the negotiators. 0.96
02:14:31.000 And then Trump tells Iran, stop killing the negotiators.
02:14:34.000 Stop bombing Lebanon.
02:14:36.000 Is this Iran deal going to work? 0.72
02:14:38.000 Is it going to work? 0.86
02:14:39.000 You know, stop bombing Lebanon? 1.00
02:14:42.000 I think we're at odds now.
02:14:44.000 In the last two years, we are now.
02:14:47.000 We're at odds with.
02:14:49.000 Israel, for the first time, where Trump is really at odds with them, and he's had enough.
02:14:53.000 I think he is starting to understand that his legacy will be permanently tainted if he doesn't find a way to extricate us from this war.
02:15:02.000 And I think on the other side, and that's and Vance, again, for all the disagreements I might have with Vance about certain things, he is one of the only people in that administration who does push against the continuation of this war, which is why a lot of those neoconservative donors try to destroy him because of that.
02:15:27.000 I don't love his tech alliances.
02:15:28.000 There's a lot of things I don't like about him.
02:15:30.000 But there's a lot of things I think are good about him.
02:15:32.000 I think there's, and it's not like I don't like about him per se.
02:15:35.000 I worry about, you know, some of his relationships.
02:15:41.000 How many of these relationships do you think are like necessary for survival?
02:15:46.000 I'm sure all of them are, and that doesn't mean, but they still need to be criticized and looked at.
02:15:50.000 Oh, yeah.
02:15:50.000 And they're 100%.
02:15:52.000 Not justifying it at all, but I'm saying I have a feeling like no completely autonomous person is ever going to make it through that maze.
02:16:00.000 Never.
02:16:01.000 But I think the job is you turn the heat up enough where maybe if everyone's going to do 10 horrible things, they do two.
02:16:01.000 Never.
02:16:09.000 Right.
02:16:10.000 So I think it's certainly the job of anyone who looks at this stuff to look at it and go, yeah, what is going on?
02:16:18.000 What is happening?
02:16:19.000 But I will say, for all of the tech things that I find a little, it's a little like, what?
02:16:25.000 I do think that to his credit, he's the only one in there.
02:16:30.000 And you can tell, and it's not that I.
02:16:34.000 I have some inside knowledge.
02:16:35.000 They're only attacking, he's being attacked the most by the people that want the war to continue.
02:16:41.000 And I think he knows his political ambitions will be completely destroyed by a continuation of this war.
02:16:41.000 Yeah.
02:16:48.000 So I look at all these people not as human beings, even though they are human beings, but I look at them as like they're running the show, they're running the country.
02:16:56.000 So they all have ambitions, and it's hard to know their hearts or heads or how they feel from one day to the next.
02:17:02.000 It's very difficult.
02:17:04.000 So I think when you look at them, you look at them and you go, Yeah, he's calculated and ambitious, but he also is the one being attacked by people that want the war to continue.
02:17:17.000 Tucker Carlson, who, again, I have agreements with Tucker, I have disagreements with Tucker, the attacks on him are insane.
02:17:24.000 The attacks on Megyn Kelly are wild because of this issue.
02:17:29.000 It's not a myriad of issues, it's this issue.
02:17:32.000 Yeah, undoubtedly.
02:17:34.000 And it's weird.
02:17:36.000 It's weird because it's so transparent.
02:17:38.000 It's so transparent, and the whole world is seeing it play out.
02:17:42.000 And it's like the amount of gaslighting that you have to keep pumping.
02:17:47.000 Yeah.
02:17:48.000 It's not sustainable.
02:17:49.000 Well, to say that this was not in the interest, this was in America's interest, you have to jump around logically so much.
02:17:59.000 Well, this is also the problem with the justification of what happened in Gaza.
02:18:02.000 When people will try to say Israel, like Gad was saying, they're doing the best they can.
02:18:07.000 Look at the drone footage.
02:18:10.000 Fly over that.
02:18:11.000 That's the best you can do.
02:18:13.000 Is that better than a nuke?
02:18:13.000 That's crazy.
02:18:15.000 Because I don't think it is.
02:18:16.000 It's inhumane.
02:18:17.000 It looks like the damage of a nuke just spread out over two years instead of one blast.
02:18:22.000 It's inhumane.
02:18:23.000 It's evil.
02:18:24.000 It's children being killed.
02:18:26.000 It's mothers being killed in front of their children.
02:18:29.000 And by the way, October 7th was inhumane, but I shouldn't have to keep doing that.
02:18:32.000 Of course, you shouldn't have to do that.
02:18:34.000 But it's also October 7th.
02:18:35.000 You know, the people that got killed, those are the ravers, right?
02:18:38.000 So those are the people that were anti Netanyahu.
02:18:38.000 Right.
02:18:40.000 Totally.
02:18:41.000 Those are not the people that were. 1.00
02:18:43.000 They also killed, I think, probably a lot of like mud.
02:18:46.000 They dragged people out of their houses. 0.99
02:18:47.000 Oh, they killed a ton of people that were completely.
02:18:49.000 It's a bad situation there.
02:18:50.000 There.
02:18:51.000 Like, it's also like, why did it take so long to respond to that?
02:18:55.000 Well, this is another very interesting, very important question.
02:18:59.000 Yeah.
02:19:00.000 Because there's a lot of people that say it's a state the size of New Jersey and the security failures are pretty wild and there hasn't been a real investigation into them.
02:19:14.000 And Netanyahu's kind of prevented that and they've kind of made it illegal to question that in Israel.
02:19:19.000 Like, people were like writing about that and going, what the hell is going on?
02:19:23.000 But like, It's illegal?
02:19:24.000 Well, there was, they've made a law, and you can look this up, about things like this in Israel because during wartime, they haven't had an election?
02:19:34.000 No.
02:19:35.000 Since October 7th?
02:19:36.000 No.
02:19:37.000 Right?
02:19:39.000 Right.
02:19:40.000 They haven't had an election.
02:19:41.000 It's been an election because of the war, right?
02:19:43.000 And Ukraine hasn't had an election.
02:19:43.000 Right.
02:19:44.000 Nobody's had an election.
02:19:46.000 So if I'm living in a country and the leader of my country just wants to be in a war forever, there is no democracy?
02:19:53.000 Well, you know, Clinton said that.
02:19:55.000 Clinton said that about Netanyahu.
02:19:56.000 He said he wants to maintain a war.
02:19:58.000 I mean, he said it openly in an interview. 0.88
02:20:00.000 Right.
02:20:01.000 So he can maintain power. 1.00
02:20:02.000 And then a nice, chubby intern showed up. 0.99
02:20:06.000 Oh, I wish. 1.00
02:20:07.000 And a nice chubby intern showed up. 1.00
02:20:09.000 Before the internet and all these busy bodies was around.
02:20:13.000 He was the first guy to go viral.
02:20:15.000 So, I mean, that's the thing.
02:20:16.000 You don't have elections, you don't have people looking into things.
02:20:20.000 And by the way, that's not the only thing that should be looked into.
02:20:22.000 Look into everything.
02:20:24.000 Right.
02:20:25.000 Where are the 9 11 docs?
02:20:26.000 What happened?
02:20:27.000 Can we know?
02:20:28.000 Why can't we know anything?
02:20:30.000 Why can't we know anything?
02:20:34.000 Yeah.
02:20:35.000 This is all of it.
02:20:35.000 You know?
02:20:37.000 It's like, release all, we're all adults.
02:20:39.000 Release it.
02:20:40.000 Let's see what happened.
02:20:41.000 But I'm sure it's fine.
02:20:42.000 I'm sure no one did anything naughty.
02:20:44.000 I think this is all kind of breaking, though.
02:20:47.000 And I think that one of the things that's happening with AI is like all these things that they are protecting us from, we're going to find out that stuff.
02:20:55.000 Well, here's the thing.
02:20:56.000 I mean, I met you in 2019.
02:20:59.000 The first time I met you was 2018.
02:21:02.000 Big J. Okerson was opening for you in Toronto.
02:21:04.000 Oh, wow.
02:21:05.000 Yeah.
02:21:06.000 But then I met you in 2019.
02:21:08.000 And that's what, six years ago, seven years ago?
02:21:10.000 Mm hmm.
02:21:12.000 There were cracks of it breaking then, but almost invisible.
02:21:17.000 Like you couldn't see them.
02:21:19.000 Now you have full on, like, huge sinkholes opening into the reality that most people have accepted for their entire life.
02:21:30.000 Yes.
02:21:31.000 Big.
02:21:32.000 Yeah, big.
02:21:33.000 Big.
02:21:34.000 And you see, like, this Tulsi Gabbard, this press release that she did, this conference where she's talking about Fauci and he did all that.
02:21:42.000 All that.
02:21:42.000 Yeah.
02:21:45.000 We're getting information now.
02:21:46.000 We're getting information. 0.95
02:21:47.000 That lets us know that the entire system has been completely corrupted for a long fucking time. 0.94
02:21:54.000 For a very long time. 0.96
02:21:55.000 And it won't survive.
02:21:55.000 Very long time.
02:21:57.000 It clearly can't survive the way we're in.
02:22:01.000 Is it $40 trillion worth of debt?
02:22:04.000 It's close, right?
02:22:05.000 It was at 39.
02:22:06.000 No one thinks that's getting paid back.
02:22:08.000 Yeah, who we owe it to? 1.00
02:22:09.000 Tell them to go fuck off. 1.00
02:22:10.000 Right. 1.00
02:22:11.000 So we have a lot of it's China, but like no one thinks that's getting paid back.
02:22:16.000 The dollar is the world's reserve currency, seems to have a limited amount of time.
02:22:20.000 I don't know, but this is what's discussed.
02:22:24.000 No, I mean, how does this system survive this level of information?
02:22:29.000 People are not going to.
02:22:30.000 Do you think that this whole race to AI, this like Manhattan Project style race that's going on right now, Like the future of whatever the United States is kind of depends on us getting there first.
02:22:44.000 I think part of it is.
02:22:44.000 Right?
02:22:45.000 If we don't get there first, then it's probably a wrap.
02:22:48.000 If you really thought about it, like if China gets there first, if control of resources and everything's shut off, sure.
02:22:54.000 Like, whatever, how, if it's weaponized. 0.92
02:22:57.000 My worry is that in the guise of fighting China, we're going to become China.
02:23:03.000 You know, so I would take the government a lot more seriously if they weren't, you know, potentially having, like, saying Palantir should merge all these different government databases. 0.88
02:23:13.000 So your health data and your criminal justice data and your tax data all merges.
02:23:17.000 And who's doing that?
02:23:18.000 Palantir. 0.88
02:23:19.000 So you go, and then they go, well, China's got to. 0.95
02:23:21.000 Credit score. 0.77
02:23:22.000 Well, what the hell is that?
02:23:23.000 Right. 0.90
02:23:24.000 What the hell is this? 0.88
02:23:26.000 What?
02:23:26.000 So when Vance comes out and he goes, I'm worried about a credit score, it's like, okay.
02:23:26.000 Right.
02:23:30.000 Hey, buddy, me too. 0.73
02:23:33.000 What the hell is this?
02:23:35.000 So it's a little bit of gaslighting in that sense, too. 0.67
02:23:38.000 They're like, if China gets all this stuff, you're all going to, you know, we lose.
02:23:42.000 And you go, okay.
02:23:44.000 So it's almost like China will enslave you. 0.84
02:23:47.000 Let us do it first.
02:23:48.000 Everyone's going to be on their best behavior.
02:23:50.000 That's right.
02:23:51.000 Everyone's going to be on their best behavior.
02:23:52.000 We're going to be watching them.
02:23:53.000 You heard that quote.
02:23:54.000 Yeah.
02:23:55.000 Everyone's going to be on their best behavior.
02:23:56.000 This is what the World Economic Forum people like that don't have an interest in you owning a house or farming land or starting a business, or they don't have any interest in that.
02:24:09.000 It does not serve them at all.
02:24:10.000 It did for a while, but their economic projection is that that's not going to be possible for you.
02:24:19.000 So, what they're going to do, they're building bunkers, they're hoarding all the wealth, and they're heavily invested in all this AI. 0.93
02:24:25.000 And one of the reasons I think that we have to strike a deal with Iran. 0.82
02:24:28.000 There's all this UAE money props up Hollywood, all these startups.
02:24:32.000 It props up all the AI, a lot of it.
02:24:35.000 A lot of that money is coming from Qatar and the UAE.
02:24:39.000 And our bases are getting blown off the earth in those countries.
02:24:41.000 Those countries are getting attacked because of this war.
02:24:44.000 And they're a huge financier of American startups and some AI startups.
02:24:49.000 So, like, one thing that I wonder about all of this is just how much this just does seem now to be a high level chess game about.
02:25:00.000 The future and what is and isn't possible.
02:25:03.000 But the only thing that makes me personally happy is that Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump just bought an island.
02:25:11.000 That gives.
02:25:12.000 The Romanian people are really excited.
02:25:14.000 They're really excited.
02:25:15.000 I see how they were celebrating the city.
02:25:16.000 I do believe they burned the prime minister's house, the president, or whoever.
02:25:19.000 They just start lighting houses on fire.
02:25:21.000 And that's coming, by the way.
02:25:23.000 They just did it in Belfast.
02:25:24.000 That's coming.
02:25:26.000 People starting to light things on fire is coming.
02:25:30.000 That's coming.
02:25:31.000 I'm not calling for it, I'm not saying it's good.
02:25:34.000 But it's coming because voting's become fake.
02:25:38.000 Right.
02:25:39.000 No one cares.
02:25:41.000 You know, people on threads, it's fake.
02:25:46.000 It's fake.
02:25:48.000 It's so obvious.
02:25:49.000 It's fake.
02:25:51.000 X, it's all fake.
02:25:54.000 So the only, and you know what?
02:25:55.000 Again, I'm not calling for it.
02:25:57.000 It's bad, but fire is real. 1.00
02:26:07.000 If you ask the people at Palisades or Malibu and whatever, RIP, I like the Palisades, that stupid mall. 0.99
02:26:12.000 I liked it. 0.99
02:26:12.000 But this is real. 0.99
02:26:14.000 People are going to start realizing that all this technology has just been set up to give you this idea that you have some effect.
02:26:22.000 And all the while, Jared and Ivanka just go buy an island.
02:26:26.000 That's what's happening.
02:26:30.000 But maybe it's fine.
02:26:31.000 Have you gotten any invites to any bunkers?
02:26:33.000 No.
02:26:35.000 No, they're not.
02:26:35.000 Do you think you'd feel differently if you did?
02:26:38.000 I don't know.
02:26:39.000 I know you've had invites to do interesting things. 1.00
02:26:41.000 I've had invites to Teal and I've said no because I would, I think, you know, he'd probably sit me down and go, listen to me, you fat fuck, you're gonna shut your mouth. 1.00
02:26:53.000 And I'd sit there and I'd go, no, I think it's, I think if they were gonna invite me, someone goes, this is the guy who dressed up as Christy Gnome's husband with fake tits. 1.00
02:27:03.000 And they go, we can't have a meal. 0.96
02:27:04.000 But by the way, absolutely.
02:27:06.000 Absolutely.
02:27:06.000 If somebody said to me, a few people are gonna survive and it's just gonna be you and these people and everybody else is gonna die, It's tough.
02:27:14.000 How fun would it be, though?
02:27:16.000 Is it fun?
02:27:17.000 Is it fun if the whole world dies and I'm just sitting and having dinner with JD Vance and his wife?
02:27:27.000 I mean, is that the fun with Peter Thiel, me, and Usha and J.D. just eating steak?
02:27:32.000 Yeah.
02:27:33.000 I mean, is that what we want?
02:27:35.000 I don't know.
02:27:36.000 Probably not.
02:27:37.000 Probably not.
02:27:38.000 What's the best case scenario?
02:27:40.000 The best case scenario is a new era of enlightened people and enlightened thinking and.
02:27:46.000 Soulfulness and spirituality, and a healthy attachment to technology and religion, and you know, people's, you know, a common kind of a sense of morality and togetherness and love for community that's not enforced by governments, corporations, and armies.
02:28:08.000 Hmm.
02:28:09.000 I'm not betting on that, but that would be good.
02:28:13.000 Well, there's a battle, right?
02:28:15.000 Yeah, there is a battle.
02:28:16.000 It's not like one side is.
02:28:19.000 Clearly, going to win.
02:28:20.000 We're moving in a very weird direction of uncertainty, but humans today are way better at being people, way kinder and nicer, despite all our problems, than we have ever been in the past.
02:28:33.000 Yeah.
02:28:34.000 Society is generally, at least in first world countries, safer than it's ever been in the past.
02:28:38.000 Yeah.
02:28:39.000 And it's also, there's more opportunity to do things now because of technology that's ever existed before.
02:28:47.000 So, it's not worse, but it's not moving in the best direction.
02:28:53.000 Possible. 1.00
02:28:54.000 Like, if you had to choose between living today the way we're living now or living in 1976 in San Francisco, I'd be like, go fuck yourself. 1.00
02:29:01.000 I don't want shitty breaks and live with these fucking people that don't know anything because no one has the internet. 1.00
02:29:05.000 Fuck that. 1.00
02:29:06.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:29:07.000 You're better off living today.
02:29:09.000 The communication can't be.
02:29:10.000 You would go see Janice Joplin.
02:29:12.000 And you'd be smoking weed and a burrito would be 50 cents.
02:29:12.000 Right.
02:29:18.000 And then you would go into a park and fuck and then die. 1.00
02:29:22.000 And it might not be as. 1.00
02:29:24.000 Bad as one thinks, and who knows?
02:29:27.000 I didn't live during that time, so I'm sure there were a lot of pitfalls.
02:29:29.000 You get stabbed, whatever.
02:29:31.000 Like, New York was more culturally interesting when there was crime.
02:29:36.000 I'm against there being crime because New York couldn't have existed, it can't be 1983 in New York now.
02:29:42.000 Times Square is a mall, Times Square right now is a TGI Fridays, but sure, used to be chaos, but it can't be chaos forever.
02:29:51.000 But again, in that city, do you get the Ramones?
02:29:54.000 Do you get right all of that stuff?
02:29:57.000 Probably not.
02:29:58.000 No.
02:29:58.000 Probably not?
02:29:59.000 No, you need some chaos for art, for sure.
02:30:02.000 You don't get chaos.
02:30:03.000 You don't get chaos from TGI Fridays.
02:30:05.000 You don't get that kind of chaos.
02:30:07.000 But I do think that there's a time for certain things and there's an inertia that moves certain things forward, meaning, like, it would be crazy to think about New York in the 80s today.
02:30:17.000 Like, no one's built for that life today.
02:30:19.000 Right.
02:30:20.000 No one's even built for that.
02:30:21.000 Like, one of the reasons that wars don't work anymore is we're just not built for it.
02:30:24.000 We're not built, used to be built for war.
02:30:26.000 People used to be built for war.
02:30:27.000 They were built to, like, Just be like, yeah, somebody calls me and I just go die.
02:30:32.000 You know, there's like a petition on the door and it's like, report here, we're going to war.
02:30:35.000 People are built for that.
02:30:36.000 Nobody's built for that now.
02:30:38.000 People file complaints with DoorDash.
02:30:40.000 I file complaints.
02:30:41.000 1981 Rolling Stone magazine called West 42nd Street, located in the heart of Times Square, as the sleazyest block in America.
02:30:49.000 Now it's probably prime real estate.
02:30:49.000 Yeah.
02:30:52.000 Yeah.
02:30:52.000 I mean, listen, there's parts of it that are, you know, it's all prime real estate there.
02:30:57.000 Whether people like it or not, it's not necessarily, you know, it's better because it's safer, but it's worse because it's safer.
02:31:06.000 Nothing's all one thing.
02:31:08.000 Nothing's all one thing.
02:31:09.000 There's still great art there.
02:31:10.000 There's still great music and comedy and theater and all that stuff.
02:31:14.000 Is it as good as it was?
02:31:15.000 No, no.
02:31:18.000 But again, it's just because the people that are doing it are amazing and they're talented.
02:31:25.000 But culture is so decentralized now and fractious.
02:31:30.000 Nothing can stay cool. 0.99
02:31:32.000 Everything that pops, you know, what's depressing me about New York is it's become like a place where people just go on Instagram and post a, you know, when you used to go to dinner in New York City, you would eat French food or food you could never make at home, you've never even seen, you didn't hear, they would treat you like shit. 0.99
02:31:47.000 It was fun. 0.90
02:31:49.000 Now you go to these places because Taylor Swift went there.
02:31:51.000 You have like they just do like a high end version of like a Totino's pizza roll.
02:31:55.000 They put truffle oil on it.
02:31:57.000 Here's a French dip.
02:31:58.000 Here's a burger.
02:31:59.000 People, their burger. 1.00
02:32:00.000 It's just a basic bitch mall city now. 1.00
02:32:02.000 That's really what it's become. 0.99
02:32:04.000 That doesn't mean there's not a lot of psychopaths there making lots of money and good for them.
02:32:08.000 But it's becoming a suburban city.
02:32:11.000 It's a city where people talk about chicken salad.
02:32:14.000 It's a city where people go to Wegmans.
02:32:16.000 It's just a different city.
02:32:17.000 It's Pilates and toddlers.
02:32:19.000 It's fine.
02:32:19.000 It's all great.
02:32:20.000 I don't want to see people getting shanked.
02:32:22.000 But it's not what it was.
02:32:23.000 It's just not what it was.
02:32:24.000 It doesn't have that same magic, and nothing does.
02:32:27.000 LA does nothing really, and it won't come back.
02:32:31.000 No, I don't think it's coming back.
02:32:32.000 I don't know if that's good or bad. 0.96
02:32:34.000 If I live there, I mean, who knows what the fuck's going to happen now with Mamdani as mayor? 0.93
02:32:39.000 I mean, that weirdness where, what is that guy's name? 0.66
02:32:42.000 Ken Griffin, the guy, the billionaire guy who's in front of his apartment.
02:32:46.000 Yeah.
02:32:46.000 Billionaire guy lives here.
02:32:47.000 He's got so much money.
02:32:48.000 We're going to take it.
02:32:49.000 We're going to tax him.
02:32:50.000 Well, here's the thing it's all fake.
02:32:52.000 Mamdani's Trump, he's smart. 0.63
02:32:52.000 It's all fake. 0.63
02:32:55.000 He's sharp.
02:32:55.000 He's good looking and young.
02:32:57.000 He just, he's this old crap. 1.00
02:32:59.000 It's YouTube. 1.00
02:32:59.000 It's like, look, billionaire guy. 1.00
02:33:01.000 Ken Griffin's in Palm Beach building a house worth a billion dollars.
02:33:05.000 You're not going to do anything to Ken Griffin.
02:33:07.000 You're a city employee.
02:33:09.000 The mayor is fake.
02:33:10.000 It's like he'll raise taxes maybe if he can get it done, but he can't.
02:33:14.000 It'll get dirtier.
02:33:15.000 Crime will go up or it won't.
02:33:17.000 It's kind of whatever.
02:33:20.000 It's just not, you know, I think it's not, it's more just the corporation's rule.
02:33:26.000 And guys like him, it's like Bernie Sanders.
02:33:28.000 He's the version of the socialist you get.
02:33:30.000 What does it even mean? 0.99
02:33:31.000 He has a bunch of military industrial complex jobs in Vermont, sweetheart of a man, but has not gotten one goddamn thing for 30 years. 0.97
02:33:38.000 Worth millions, has three homes. 0.96
02:33:39.000 Worth millions, has three homes.
02:33:40.000 The Clintons sandbag him because they're working for God only knows who the Goldman Sachs and the devil.
02:33:47.000 And he goes and says, Hillary's great.
02:33:49.000 They're all great.
02:33:50.000 It's all great.
02:33:51.000 The system's fine.
02:33:51.000 I lost.
02:33:52.000 He gets sandbagged like twice.
02:33:56.000 And he doesn't burn it to the ground.
02:33:57.000 He won't burn it to the ground because that's the version.
02:33:59.000 Of a socialist, you get in America.
02:34:01.000 And I'm not even like a socialist, but I'm saying like that's clearly, this is, you throw the bone to placate someone.
02:34:06.000 It's also they're playing a game, and his game is to stay relevant.
02:34:09.000 Totally.
02:34:10.000 Keep being a politician, keep being a senator from Vermont.
02:34:14.000 You stay there forever.
02:34:15.000 Everybody loves you.
02:34:15.000 Ben and Jerry's.
02:34:16.000 Yeah. 0.84
02:34:16.000 Vermont is a lily white state of frozen people. 0.84
02:34:23.000 And it's just a bunch of lesbians. 1.00
02:34:24.000 And I think Alec Baldwin now, because he shot someone. 1.00
02:34:27.000 Does he live there now?
02:34:28.000 I think he does, but I don't know.
02:34:30.000 And I like him.
02:34:31.000 Shout out to him.
02:34:32.000 We've all moved on.
02:34:35.000 But I think, you know, Sanders is doing what he has to do to please that demographic of people.
02:34:42.000 What do you think happens in 2028? 0.95
02:34:45.000 I think the donors want Rubio, but Rubio's kind of a buffoon.
02:34:49.000 Why do they want Rubio? 0.54
02:34:50.000 Because he's not, Vance is more isolationist than Rubio.
02:34:54.000 And I think Vance is more in league with the tech people, whereas Rubio, maybe the central banking cartels of intergenerational pools of capital that are more invested in the war industry and might be slightly more aligned with Israel like Rubio.
02:35:07.000 Like, there are different fiefdoms of the super rich.
02:35:10.000 I think the tech guys are relatively new.
02:35:12.000 Not that they don't get involved in war.
02:35:13.000 Of course they do.
02:35:15.000 But it's not all hunky dory. 0.55
02:35:16.000 You know, if you had a banking empire for years and centuries and you're like, now all these new tech fucks are here and you're like, what is this?
02:35:23.000 And you're like, we make our money with war.
02:35:25.000 And so do the tech people, by the way, but they have other ways to make money.
02:35:30.000 So I do think Vance will get the nomination.
02:35:32.000 I don't think Rubio, I used to think it would be Rubio.
02:35:35.000 But I've watched Rubio recently more and I don't.
02:35:39.000 Don't think Rubio, he's just too buffet.
02:35:45.000 I can't take him seriously.
02:35:47.000 I don't know why.
02:35:49.000 Trump again suggests a Vance Rubio 2028 presidential ticket or perhaps Rubio Vance.
02:35:54.000 So it'll probably be those two.
02:35:57.000 Interesting.
02:35:58.000 But do you think that people are going to want to buy into another Republican party?
02:36:03.000 No, it'll be a Democrat.
02:36:04.000 I think it'll be a Democrat.
02:36:05.000 Who do you think wins?
02:36:06.000 I don't know.
02:36:07.000 I think it's somebody that we don't know who it is yet.
02:36:08.000 I think it's somebody that we don't know who it is.
02:36:10.000 I don't think it's Newsome. 0.62
02:36:11.000 I don't think it's AOC.
02:36:12.000 I think it's somebody that comes from.
02:36:14.000 A red state, who's a Democrat governor, a purple state, we don't know who they are yet. 0.99
02:36:19.000 They pop up, they're boring.
02:36:20.000 I think we need boring.
02:36:22.000 I think a boring person's going to come in and just be like, hey, I'm the president.
02:36:28.000 Reasonable.
02:36:29.000 The show's over. 1.00
02:36:30.000 Michelle Obama's a woman.
02:36:31.000 And then a few, you'll hear some of the country go, oh. 0.96
02:36:37.000 Because Trump's a drug and you've got to detox from that. 0.86
02:36:39.000 And this whole last decade has been a drug and it's been the craziest decade that I've been alive. 0.91
02:36:43.000 I remember sitting with you in election night.
02:36:45.000 I remember me, you, and Alex sitting down.
02:36:46.000 I remember all these things.
02:36:48.000 We're watching these crazy points.
02:36:51.000 I remember when Trump was shot.
02:36:53.000 I remember tragically when Charlie Kirk was shot.
02:36:55.000 All of these things that have happened that are just so crazy and now seem so far away and like they're so far in the past.
02:37:06.000 Gavin Newsom is the guy.
02:37:07.000 They like this guy, John Ossoff.
02:37:08.000 Who's that guy?
02:37:10.000 I just looked him up.
02:37:10.000 I didn't know either.
02:37:11.000 He's the youngest incumbent senator out of Georgia.
02:37:14.000 Yeah, he's having a moment.
02:37:16.000 You just nailed it.
02:37:17.000 You just nailed it.
02:37:18.000 You could be him.
02:37:18.000 Look at him.
02:37:19.000 There he goes.
02:37:20.000 That looks like a president.
02:37:21.000 Who cares?
02:37:21.000 Just put him in.
02:37:23.000 Yeah.
02:37:24.000 His neck is medium.
02:37:25.000 It's not too thin.
02:37:26.000 He's got a medium neck.
02:37:27.000 He's got that face.
02:37:29.000 I think his neck is a little too small.
02:37:29.000 Like Tellerino.
02:37:31.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:37:33.000 Yeah, that's probably true.
02:37:34.000 A little bit more square jawed.
02:37:36.000 Conservative Georgia radio host endorses John Ossoff for U.S. Senate.
02:37:41.000 If they want to win, they just have to go hey, everybody, remember health care?
02:37:45.000 Don't you want that?
02:37:47.000 Is he a Republican?
02:37:51.000 He's a Democrat.
02:37:52.000 He's a Democrat, but he's going to LARP as a Republican in the same way that Spencer Pratt's like, I'm actually a Democrat.
02:37:57.000 You know what I mean?
02:38:01.000 Worked as a national security staffer. 1.00
02:38:03.000 Yeah, he's a spook.
02:38:04.000 Put him in. 1.00
02:38:05.000 Who cares?
02:38:06.000 It's fake at this point.
02:38:07.000 We all know it's fake.
02:38:09.000 How much more evidence does anyone need?
02:38:12.000 Jesus Christ, Tim Dillon.
02:38:13.000 Sorry.
02:38:14.000 I'm glad you're out there.
02:38:15.000 I'm glad you have me in here.
02:38:17.000 Your podcast rules.
02:38:18.000 Thank you, brother.
02:38:19.000 I really appreciate it.
02:38:20.000 It's such a great escape.
02:38:21.000 Thank you.
02:38:22.000 It's so beautiful because just the way you're able to just combine reality with humor is very rare.
02:38:30.000 Well, thank you, dude.
02:38:30.000 I appreciate it.
02:38:32.000 I appreciate it.
02:38:33.000 It's a very unusual thing you're doing.
02:38:34.000 It's very insightful political commentary and social commentary mixed in with hilarious takes on things that's very nihilist.
02:38:42.000 Well, I'll keep doing it until I'm put in a jail.
02:38:46.000 Thank you.
02:38:46.000 Thank you, brother.
02:38:46.000 Appreciate it.
02:38:47.000 Appreciate you.
02:38:48.000 Bye, everybody.