The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2519 - Scott Eastwood

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.

00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.

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00:00:10.000 Scotty, good to see you, brother.

00:00:14.000 What's happening?

00:00:15.000 You know, back in the seat, back in the hot seat.

00:00:18.000 You're looking good, dude. 1.00

00:00:19.000 Look at you, you handsome bastard. 0.99

00:00:21.000 What's this box? 0.99

00:00:22.000 This is the best supplements on the planet sourced from Japan, America, and Switzerland.

00:00:30.000 North Performance, Dr. Massey.

00:00:32.000 Do you know him?

00:00:33.000 He's a Stanford doc.

00:00:35.000 He started the company.

00:00:36.000 I'm involved.

00:00:37.000 I'm getting heavily involved in the ownership of it.

00:00:40.000 And I'm excited about it.

00:00:42.000 It's a one, you take it a day, like one satchel. 1.00

00:00:45.000 It's got all the shit. 0.99

00:00:46.000 Oh, so it's like a prepack? 1.00

00:00:48.000 It's a prepack.

00:00:49.000 Ooh, I like prepacks.

00:00:50.000 Yeah, one and done.

00:00:51.000 I don't like to think.

00:00:52.000 You mean prepack?

00:00:52.000 Exactly.

00:00:53.000 Yep.

00:00:54.000 Yeah, I like the, I take Pures now.

00:00:56.000 I take Pure Encapsulations.

00:01:00.000 They have those little men's ultra packs or whatever it's called.

00:01:03.000 Yep. 0.99

00:01:03.000 I take those every day with a bunch of other shit. 0.99

00:01:05.000 Yep. 0.99

00:01:06.000 I'll try your stuff though.

00:01:07.000 Check it out.

00:01:07.000 Okay.

00:01:08.000 So, what's so special about these vitamins?

00:01:10.000 You know, it's just, it's more for the person who's like wants to excel in training.

00:01:15.000 So, it's got all the amino acids, your creatines, all of them in one supplement.

00:01:21.000 It's big.

00:01:21.000 You'll see.

00:01:22.000 Let me see.

00:01:23.000 Let's go. 1.00

00:01:23.000 Pull that bitch out. 1.00

00:01:26.000 By the way, this is not an ad. 1.00

00:01:28.000 I mean, I guess it is for Scott, but it's like, we didn't order anything.

00:01:31.000 I know you're involved in your AGI.

00:01:32.000 I know, but I just want people to know that, like, yeah. 0.97

00:01:36.000 I talk about cool shit regardless of whether or not it's an ad. 0.52

00:01:39.000 And if something is going to be an ad, I have to approve it. 0.99

00:01:42.000 You need a knife?

00:01:42.000 Ooh, look at you.

00:01:44.000 Yeah, let's bust it out.

00:01:45.000 Montana Knife Company, son.

00:01:46.000 Look at that.

00:01:48.000 Good for cutting elk. 0.73

00:01:49.000 That's a skinner, boy. 1.00

00:01:50.000 Look at that sucker. 1.00

00:01:52.000 Shave that dog, teach it to hunt. 1.00

00:01:54.000 The best knives.

00:01:56.000 Okay.

00:01:58.000 All right, supplements.

00:02:01.000 So, how long have you been involved in the whole supplement thing?

00:02:05.000 Have you always taken them?

00:02:05.000 No, it's not.

00:02:06.000 Oh, it's all in powder?

00:02:08.000 Yep.

00:02:08.000 Whoa.

00:02:09.000 Bruh, try dry scooping that. 0.99

00:02:12.000 You're going to choke to death.

00:02:13.000 That's a lot of powder.

00:02:15.000 That I believe, okay.

00:02:16.000 Now, at least I'm more convinced because there's a lot of volume here.

00:02:21.000 Yep.

00:02:21.000 Obviously, there's a lot of stuff.

00:02:23.000 Like, if you took every vitamin that I take every day and you busted them up and put them into a powder form, it would be like this.

00:02:28.000 Exactly.

00:02:29.000 So it's 70 plus vitamins in there.

00:02:32.000 And that's the biggest thing, right?

00:02:33.000 Like, efficacy and quantity.

00:02:35.000 You need the right amount.

00:02:36.000 Did you just mix this with water?

00:02:37.000 Is that how you do it?

00:02:38.000 Yep. 0.70

00:02:39.000 Mix it with a big water.

00:02:40.000 And then you just don't have to think about it because I was doing so many a day, right?

00:02:44.000 As you probably are.

00:02:45.000 Yeah.

00:02:45.000 It's like, oh, dude.

00:02:47.000 Yeah.

00:02:47.000 I ran out of that one.

00:02:48.000 Oh, I got to wear that.

00:02:49.000 So, you're involved in this company.

00:02:50.000 Did you guys ever send this stuff out for third party testing?

00:02:53.000 Do you ever do that?

00:02:54.000 It's totally third party tested.

00:02:55.000 So, my very wealthy buddy started it.

00:02:57.000 He did it essentially for himself.

00:03:00.000 He was like, I want the best of the best.

00:03:02.000 He's like 55, but he's an adventure athlete.

00:03:04.000 And he's like, I want the best of the best.

00:03:07.000 I don't care what it costs.

00:03:08.000 And he's like, wait a sec.

00:03:09.000 I think I can make a business out of this.

00:03:12.000 So, that's where I'm at.

00:03:12.000 That's for you, dude.

00:03:13.000 Yeah.

00:03:14.000 Okay.

00:03:14.000 So, for people at home, what's the name of the company again?

00:03:16.000 North Performance.

00:03:17.000 And is there a website they can go to?

00:03:17.000 North Performance.

00:03:19.000 Yep.

00:03:20.000 We're just launching it.

00:03:21.000 It's going to be on subscription based.

00:03:23.000 Come to your house every month.

00:03:24.000 Don't have to think about it.

00:03:24.000 Oh, nice.

00:03:25.000 Oh, I like not thinking.

00:03:26.000 Yep.

00:03:27.000 You got me.

00:03:27.000 Got me hooked already, son.

00:03:29.000 All the things.

00:03:30.000 Volume, so I'm believing in it.

00:03:33.000 You know, when I know if you're a very reputable and ethical guy, I know if you're involved in something, it's going to be legit anyway.

00:03:33.000 Yep.

00:03:40.000 So that's cool to know.

00:03:42.000 How long have you been taking supplements?

00:03:43.000 Have you been a vitamin guy forever?

00:03:45.000 Yeah, you know, I cycle in and out like anything.

00:03:48.000 Do you?

00:03:50.000 My non negotiables typically are.

00:03:53.000 Fish oil, vitamin D.

00:03:58.000 I take MNN or NAD and then glutathione.

00:04:03.000 My dad was always a massive glutathione guy.

00:04:06.000 There's a lot of real health benefits to glutathione.

00:04:10.000 I think, especially, liposomal glutathione, which is more bioabsorbable.

00:04:17.000 That's awesome, dude.

00:04:18.000 Good for you.

00:04:21.000 And don't listen to your doctor.

00:04:22.000 If you have a doctor like I had, my doctor said all you need is a balanced diet, most of those vitamins are just going to pee out. 1.00

00:04:28.000 And I looked at him like, dude, you look like shit. 0.99

00:04:31.000 I didn't say it, but I'm trying to be nice. 1.00

00:04:34.000 He's had a pot belly. 1.00

00:04:35.000 I'm like, this is crazy.

00:04:36.000 You have zero muscle, and you're telling me about balanced diets.

00:04:39.000 Like, this is bananas, dude. 1.00

00:04:41.000 And now that I've looked back on it, he was probably how old I am now, you know, and he looked like shit. 0.99

00:04:48.000 There's a lot of doctors that don't understand that if you want to optimize your health, it's not about what the 100% of the, you know, USDA or whatever it is, the requirements, like, There's real science on what the right doses are. 0.99

00:05:04.000 And you can find it.

00:05:05.000 It's just complicated.

00:05:06.000 You got to go online and you got to go, what's the optimum dose of vitamin D?

00:05:10.000 Are there dangers of going above vitamin D?

00:05:12.000 Are there benefits of having a high level of vitamin D?

00:05:15.000 If you really want to do it right, you should work with a wellness clinic and have someone go over your blood work.

00:05:15.000 Sure.

00:05:20.000 Fortunately, we have Waist of Well in town, so I do it with them.

00:05:23.000 They go over your blood work.

00:05:24.000 They'll actually make you a vitamin that's designed specifically for what your body needs, they'll encapsulate it all in pill form, tell you how many to take a day.

00:05:33.000 And they'll send you like a bag of vitamins.

00:05:35.000 It's amazing.

00:05:36.000 Yeah, I've been actually thinking about doing that test because there are certain doctors that will tell you your blood type will dictate what you should be eating.

00:05:46.000 And I've never really got that done or no.

00:05:50.000 And I know certain people just are like, this is a game changer.

00:05:52.000 I wonder how much of that is voodoo.

00:05:55.000 It might be a little voodoo.

00:05:57.000 It kind of makes sense, though, if your ancestors came from a specific part of the world.

00:06:02.000 You know what I mean?

00:06:03.000 Yeah.

00:06:04.000 We know that's the case with alcohol.

00:06:06.000 Like people whose ancestors came from a society.

00:06:08.000 Yeah.

00:06:09.000 Well, societies that didn't normally drink alcohol, like particularly Native Americans, had a really hard time with it because they just weren't built to metabolize alcohol.

00:06:16.000 They didn't have it as a part of their world.

00:06:19.000 And I guess if you're in a part of the world where your ancestors ate mostly meat, I bet your diet should probably be mostly meat.

00:06:26.000 I bet it fits right in there.

00:06:28.000 And if you come from a place where they ate a lot of specific kinds of grains, like I would wonder, like, How much of that stuff is real?

00:06:36.000 Like blood type versus what food you should eat?

00:06:39.000 Because everybody eats proteins, amino acids, vitamins, you know, and all that stuff you get from fruits and vegetables and meat and food and fish and eggs. 0.67

00:06:49.000 I mean, if you're looking at the Blue Zone, right?

00:06:52.000 Yeah.

00:06:53.000 They essentially have a variety of a Mediterranean diet.

00:06:58.000 It's kind of a variety of everything.

00:06:59.000 They don't just eat red meat, but they eat a lot of fish, but they do eat red meat and they do drink wine.

00:07:05.000 And they sort of have this diet that, Is kind of a bunch of everything.

00:07:10.000 And there's a bunch of other factors as well purpose, physical activity, community. 0.97

00:07:17.000 I think a big one with all these blue zone people is they're just eating real food. 0.99

00:07:23.000 That's the real problem. 1.00

00:07:24.000 What people need to truly get into their head is the majority of the American diet, as delicious as it tastes, is like garbage. 0.99

00:07:33.000 It's bad for you. 0.99

00:07:34.000 It's actually bad for you, it's not good for you.

00:07:37.000 Real food is good for you.

00:07:39.000 If you go and you have a grilled chicken and some avocado and a nice salad and a glass of sparkling water, that's actually really good for you. 0.99

00:07:51.000 Versus if you go and have a fucking jack in the box double cheeseburger with bacon and whatever sauce and eat the fries, like that's poison. 1.00

00:08:00.000 It's poison. 1.00

00:08:01.000 It's delicious poison.

00:08:02.000 Now, I will say, I just got back from Europe.

00:08:05.000 My body there feels so much better, and I eat pretty healthy.

00:08:09.000 Okay, I eat healthy here and I eat pretty healthy there.

00:08:12.000 Yeah, everybody has the same story.

00:08:13.000 So, what's going on?

00:08:15.000 Our food's bad.

00:08:15.000 It's our food.

00:08:17.000 There's a guy who broke it down.

00:08:19.000 Remember that dude with the cowboy hat, Jamie?

00:08:21.000 Remember that cat who's really good at breaking down nutrition facts?

00:08:25.000 He broke down what the gluten is, the glyphosate, right?

00:08:28.000 There's bromine, there's a bunch of other compounds, there's a bunch of preservatives.

00:08:32.000 All that stuff is, again, bad for you.

00:08:35.000 And all these people that live in Italy and live in these Mediterranean diet places, what are they eating?

00:08:40.000 They're eating food, actual food, real food.

00:08:43.000 But it's not just that.

00:08:45.000 It's like the way the dairy's processed, right?

00:08:47.000 So, you know, and I actually went to a cheese factory in Italy a couple times ago in Europe.

00:08:53.000 And I asked, I said, why can my stomach tolerate this and not in America?

00:08:57.000 And they're like, well, first off, the process of making this cheese is like four to six hours in the morning every day, and it gets the lactose out.

00:09:07.000 Whereas we just slap it in and send it out, you know?

00:09:11.000 And it's like, that's not.

00:09:12.000 It's also raw cheese.

00:09:14.000 You know, I had a.

00:09:16.000 I bought a house from this guy who was from France.

00:09:18.000 Really cool guy.

00:09:19.000 He was a doctor.

00:09:20.000 Very interesting dude.

00:09:21.000 I got to know him, became friends with him.

00:09:23.000 And he would smuggle cheese back from France because it was literally illegal to have that cheese.

00:09:31.000 This is California, 2003.

00:09:34.000 Illegal to bring that cheese into America because it was raw.

00:09:34.000 Oh, really?

00:09:38.000 It hadn't been, all the biology in it hadn't been killed.

00:09:42.000 Okay.

00:09:42.000 So, like, when we're drinking raw milk, what you're getting is all the enzymes.

00:09:47.000 You're getting it.

00:09:48.000 And people could say, Oh, are you a baby cow? 0.99

00:09:51.000 You should be.

00:09:52.000 Look, it's really good nutrition.

00:09:55.000 Raw milk is good nutrition.

00:09:57.000 There's calcium and protein and fats, milk fat.

00:10:00.000 It's good for you.

00:10:01.000 It tastes good when you drink.

00:10:02.000 If you're drinking a glass of homogenized, pasteurized milk, your body's like, what is this?

00:10:09.000 Like, this is milk that can just sit on the shelf for months?

00:10:12.000 That's crazy.

00:10:13.000 If you get raw milk, I get it on a Saturday.

00:10:16.000 By Wednesday or Thursday, it gets a little sketch.

00:10:18.000 Oh, yeah.

00:10:19.000 It starts stinking.

00:10:20.000 That's the cat.

00:10:21.000 So, this dude, listen to what this guy says.

00:10:23.000 So, he's talking to this guy.

00:10:26.000 This guy's talking about how he's eating bread over in Europe.

00:10:29.000 America.

00:10:31.000 Can't eat it.

00:10:32.000 That's because in America, what we call bread can't even be considered food in parts of Europe.

00:10:37.000 See, here in America, it's not so much the gluten as what we've done to the grain.

00:10:40.000 About 200 years ago, we started stripping the bran and germ or the fiber and nutrients to make flour shelf stable, also nutritionally dead.

00:10:47.000 Because the nutrients were gone, we enriched it with folic acid, which a large majority of the population can't even metabolize.

00:10:53.000 Therefore, many people experience fatigue, anxiety, hyperactivity, and inflammation.

00:10:57.000 But then the bread wasn't white enough, so they bleached it with chlorine gas, and the bread didn't rise enough, so they added a carcinogen called potassium bromate, which is banned in several countries like Europe, the UK, and even China.

00:11:06.000 Then we wanted to ramp up production, so we started using glyphosate to dry out the wheat before harvest, causing endocrine disruption and damaging your gut.

00:11:13.000 So now you're bloated, brain fogged, tired, and blamed gluten, but gluten is just the scapegoat.

00:11:17.000 The real issue is ultra processed, chemically altered, bleached, bromated, fake vitamin filled wheat soaked in glyphosate.

00:11:23.000 This isn't bread.

00:11:24.000 This is.

00:11:26.000 Shout out to this guy.

00:11:27.000 His name is Denny Dure.

00:11:30.000 Denny, D E N N Y underscore D U R E on Instagram. 0.99

00:11:34.000 Fuck with the audio there because that song will. 1.00

00:11:36.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:11:38.000 So, what I get from that, and I have seen this actually. 0.99

00:11:40.000 Damn it. 0.98

00:11:41.000 It's just essentially pure greed to keep bread shelf stable for longer. 1.00

00:11:46.000 Well, it's their business model, right?

00:11:48.000 So, their business is set up on shelf stable stuff.

00:11:51.000 And the problem is, it was greenlit, right?

00:11:54.000 So, the problem is, whatever year they started doing that, they built their entire business on doing it that way.

00:12:00.000 So, this was the argument when RFK Jr. came in and said, You have to stop using these dyes for children's cereals.

00:12:06.000 Yeah.

00:12:07.000 And they were saying, This is going to ruin our business.

00:12:10.000 And he was like, You already make The same kind that we're asking you to make for Canada because Canada doesn't allow them to use the dyes. 0.99

00:12:17.000 The same cereal they make in the United States and it looks not as good because it doesn't have the juicy, delicious, bright, vibrant dyes that give you fucking cancer. 0.92

00:12:28.000 But the reality is, it's just their business model. 0.96

00:12:30.000 They're set up to do it a certain way and to change would be very expensive.

00:12:34.000 So what do they do? 0.99

00:12:35.000 They fucking hire lobbyists. 0.99

00:12:37.000 They hire lobbyists, they get their guys into the FDA, they get their guys into this organization, that organization. 1.00

00:12:43.000 And they make sure that they're protected. 0.99

00:12:45.000 And then we keep eating dog shit and we keep getting poisoned. 0.99

00:12:49.000 And you go to Italy and you have a spaghetti and you feel great. 0.99

00:12:53.000 You don't feel like you got shot with a tranquilizer dart.

00:12:56.000 You know, it's kind of amazing. 0.80

00:12:58.000 There's a dart in your neck, man.

00:12:59.000 We've talked about it so many times.

00:13:00.000 You go over there and you're like, why am I living the way I live?

00:13:03.000 These people are just hanging out, having a good time, having a cigarette, laughing.

00:13:07.000 That shouldn't even be a thing we're arguing about.

00:13:09.000 I don't even understand.

00:13:10.000 It's just like that gets lumped into that.

00:13:11.000 It's like, no, that's for the betterment of society.

00:13:15.000 Yeah.

00:13:16.000 What?

00:13:17.000 Like, why is that a thing?

00:13:19.000 Yeah, we live in a weird world, man.

00:13:21.000 A world that doesn't completely make sense.

00:13:23.000 And then on top of it, it gets connected to political ideologies.

00:13:27.000 So it used to be that the people on the left were really concerned about healthy food.

00:13:31.000 Like, when I was a kid, we used to go to the health food store.

00:13:36.000 My parents were hippies, and they would buy like whole wheat bread and, you know, like they would try to buy like organic food.

00:13:43.000 And that was the thing on the left avoid chemicals, avoid processed foods.

00:13:49.000 And because this, it's all these movements are connected with Trump and RFK Jr., there's so many people that are rejecting something that's beneficial to everybody because somehow or another they have this connected to some right wing anti science position.

00:14:05.000 Like, God, you guys are getting brainwashed.

00:14:08.000 We should all be eating organic food.

00:14:10.000 That should be the only food.

00:14:12.000 We're not doing that, okay? 0.99

00:14:14.000 And it's one of the reasons why we're some of the sickest, fattest fucking people on earth while also being the most. 0.99

00:14:20.000 Wealthy country. 1.00

00:14:21.000 Yeah, groupthink is like a crazy thing.

00:14:26.000 It's really sad because people aren't really actually thinking critically about each subject.

00:14:32.000 They're just jumping onto something they've been told or is in their echo chamber or whatever.

00:14:39.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:39.000 I like to think no matter what issue it is, I'm like, okay, well, let's evaluate that.

00:14:44.000 Let's kind of look at both sides.

00:14:45.000 Maybe there's like, and maybe there's some in between. 0.98

00:14:49.000 Both things can be true. 0.97

00:14:50.000 Yes, for sure.

00:14:51.000 And that's a problem.

00:14:53.000 If there's something that's accurate that the other side is saying and you're rejecting that because it doesn't align with your political ideology, that's bad for everybody.

00:15:02.000 I think the groupthink that we have to all really align with is the groupthink of being open minded.

00:15:08.000 Being actually open minded and willing to accept different ideas and also recognize that you are not your ideas.

00:15:18.000 Your ideas are just thoughts.

00:15:20.000 Do not connect yourself with them.

00:15:22.000 You are you.

00:15:24.000 And if you really want to have a stable you, you want to be proud of what you are, you should be completely detached from ideas.

00:15:32.000 You should know which ones are accurate and which ones aren't based on information, based on the reality of whatever we're talking about, whatever subject matter is. 0.99

00:15:41.000 But the reality is, you can't be married to your ideas because they'll fuck you. 1.00

00:15:47.000 They'll fuck you over every time. 1.00

00:15:49.000 It's not going to work. 0.99

00:15:51.000 You have to be flexible and you have to be willing to say, even though I hate this guy, he's right about that.

00:15:57.000 It's very important.

00:15:58.000 It's okay to be wrong.

00:15:59.000 It's okay to go wrong. 1.00

00:15:59.000 This guy's a piece of shit. 1.00

00:16:00.000 I was wrong. 1.00

00:16:01.000 He lies about a lot of things.

00:16:03.000 But that thing that he's saying is actually true.

00:16:05.000 Well, here's an even.

00:16:06.000 To go even a little more, maybe an unpopular or something people don't talk about is they divide, in my opinion, to control.

00:16:21.000 If you don't have division, that's when the pitchforks come out. 0.99

00:16:25.000 If you don't have the illusion of choice and a team, that's when you're like, well, fuck that. 0.94

00:16:32.000 They're taking our money, we're paying all these taxes, we're doing these things, and we actually don't have a choice. 0.99

00:16:36.000 Right.

00:16:37.000 Maybe that's the reason it's, you know, there's these teams, red and blue, and it's actually just one higher group that are actually making decisions, the big money.

00:16:48.000 Yeah, well, for sure.

00:16:49.000 They benefit from people being at each other's throats. 0.90

00:16:51.000 They benefit from culture war stuff. 0.66

00:16:53.000 They benefit from people arguing over whatever it is Pride Month or whatever it is, Black Lives Matter. 0.78

00:16:59.000 They rile people up, and then people are thinking about this and this instead of, hey, like this is actually going on. 0.54

00:17:06.000 Yeah.

00:17:06.000 We're not talking about that.

00:17:07.000 Yeah.

00:17:08.000 I mean, look, every time there's, I mean, when Clinton got caught with Monica Lewinsky, they started bombing like right afterwards.

00:17:15.000 That's the real power.

00:17:16.000 That's what they do.

00:17:17.000 It's a good move.

00:17:18.000 It's a good move to distract people. 0.99

00:17:19.000 Because otherwise, that shit's going to stay in the news cycle until something big happens. 0.97

00:17:23.000 So you've got to make something big happen. 0.98

00:17:25.000 Yeah, we're involved in a game, and we don't think it's a game.

00:17:30.000 We think that what we're doing is trying to make the world a better place and vote for people that have similar values.

00:17:35.000 That's not the game they're playing.

00:17:37.000 The game they're playing is let's pretend that we care.

00:17:41.000 Let's pretend that we want to.

00:17:43.000 Fix the homeless problem.

00:17:44.000 Let's pretend we want you to have health care. 1.00

00:17:47.000 Let's pretend. 0.95

00:17:48.000 But meanwhile, a good percentage of them are demons.

00:17:53.000 They're just sociopaths, completely devoid of any feelings of what the consequences of their action are going to have on people's livelihoods, losing their homes, losing their businesses. 1.00

00:18:05.000 They don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:18:06.000 They care about their own career and they want to keep on trucking until they become the king of the country. 0.99

00:18:11.000 And that's what they're trying to do. 1.00

00:18:12.000 And that's a giant pile of these fucking demons. 1.00

00:18:14.000 There's a lot of them out there that think like that. 1.00

00:18:17.000 And then there's real good people that get involved in politics as well.

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00:19:28.000 No, we were actually talking about it.

00:19:30.000 My buddy gave me a lift here today on his plane, and he's a very wealthy, successful guy.

00:19:36.000 But he was getting riled up about some trans thing and an issue.

00:19:40.000 And I was like, Why do you think you get riled up about it?

00:19:43.000 I was like, Do you think that maybe that's just a cause for division?

00:19:49.000 And if you get upset about a sound out of someone's mouth, when you think about it, it's kind of like from a 30,000 foot level.

00:20:00.000 An idea about a sound that's coming out of someone's mouth.

00:20:03.000 Right.

00:20:04.000 Like you're letting that affect you.

00:20:05.000 Right.

00:20:06.000 And it's not affecting your real life.

00:20:08.000 But you're choosing to focus on that.

00:20:10.000 And it is an issue.

00:20:11.000 But is it an issue that's of paramount importance in your life when you're on your own private jet flying somewhere?

00:20:17.000 I was, I was, I couldn't thinking about, like, I was thinking about, I was like, you're this special billionaire and you're upset about that.

00:20:17.000 I know.

00:20:24.000 And I go, you're wasting your time thinking about that.

00:20:28.000 Right.

00:20:28.000 Instead of a millionaire things we could talk about or think about.

00:20:31.000 Yeah.

00:20:32.000 It was interesting.

00:20:33.000 Well, it's, I mean, it's always been a tool.

00:20:35.000 As much as we like to say, no, these are real issues that we face, we really have a real cultural issue that we have to.

00:20:41.000 That's true.

00:20:41.000 I get it.

00:20:42.000 But however, you have to recognize that that tool has always been used by dictators, by.

00:20:46.000 Divide and conquer.

00:20:47.000 Yeah.

00:20:47.000 Art of war, right?

00:20:48.000 From the beginning. 0.66

00:20:48.000 I mean, it's the. 0.66

00:20:49.000 Yeah.

00:20:50.000 And it's one of the beautiful things about our country is that we have two parties.

00:20:50.000 And it's important.

00:20:55.000 So it's so easy to do because it's just good guys and bad guys.

00:20:59.000 There's no good guys, bad guys, in between. 0.81

00:21:01.000 Pretty reasonable guys that are pragmatic would know how to kill folks.

00:21:04.000 I like them.

00:21:05.000 Let's go to the.

00:21:06.000 Let's go to that side.

00:21:07.000 No, no, no.

00:21:08.000 Let's go to the discipline side.

00:21:10.000 But no, it's like you can only be on the right or on the left.

00:21:13.000 And if you're on the right, you get lumped into these crazy people that have these big Jesus rallies and they talk in tongues. 0.96

00:21:21.000 And you get lumped in with white nationalists. 0.90

00:21:24.000 You get lumped in with Christian nationalists that think that the Ten Commandments should be in every school and no one should be able to practice any other religion.

00:21:32.000 This is a Christian country.

00:21:33.000 There's people that really believe pushing that.

00:21:36.000 You get lumped in with them too when you're just like, hey, I think the Second Amendment's important.

00:21:40.000 You know, like, oh, you must be a far right wing conspiracy theorist.

00:21:44.000 Like, oh, come on.

00:21:46.000 Like, you can't always count on the cops.

00:21:48.000 You know, you should be able to protect yourself because bad people have guns.

00:21:51.000 It's that simple.

00:21:52.000 It doesn't mean you're going to use them all the time.

00:21:54.000 Like, this is crazy. 0.70

00:21:55.000 You could kill people with a variety of different methods. 0.81

00:21:58.000 You know, you don't need to lump everything into right and left, but people do. 0.96

00:22:04.000 They do because they're being told to.

00:22:06.000 You know, if you're on the left, you have to accept, you know, trans women are women.

00:22:09.000 You have to, there's a whole bunch of, like, they're kind of moving away from that now. 0.97

00:22:13.000 In a big way, they're moving away from the competitive thing, like with trans women competing in school athletics, because it's like after a certain amount of fucking championships, you know, you just got to go, hey, come on, guys, that's a guy. 0.99

00:22:26.000 That's a guy. 0.98

00:22:27.000 Like, you could be kind. 0.97

00:22:29.000 Be sweet, those people have always existed, but also you're letting them into the women's room, and now you could have perverts who just say they're trans and they can go in the women's room too. 0.93

00:22:36.000 Like, you didn't think about this.

00:22:38.000 The fact that they never factored in the one segment of society that has always been the most hated. 1.00

00:22:47.000 And the most looked out, like to make sure that they don't come near you, psychopathic perverts. 0.99

00:22:53.000 Like psychopathic perverts that prey on men, guys that want to go in women's bathrooms, guys that want to grab women after bars. 0.99

00:23:00.000 Those guys have always been terrifying. 0.99

00:23:04.000 And we just gave them a Willy Wonka golden ticket.

00:23:06.000 Just wear a dress. 1.00

00:23:07.000 Like, imagine you're a fucking old school pervert and you're 80 years old. 1.00

00:23:11.000 You're like, fuck, I missed the boat. 1.00

00:23:13.000 You've been in and out of jail for doing all kinds of creepy shit, pretending you're a woman. 1.00

00:23:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:23:19.000 I think we should just be able to hunt.

00:23:21.000 Hunt them.

00:23:23.000 Like, for real.

00:23:25.000 I would lose zero sleep.

00:23:26.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:23:26.000 Real perverts? 0.97

00:23:27.000 Like, the thing is, like, child molesters? 0.96

00:23:29.000 Like, no problem.

00:23:29.000 Yes.

00:23:30.000 Just let's go hunt them.

00:23:31.000 Well, they're broken.

00:23:32.000 And I don't know how you could ever think you're going to fix them.

00:23:34.000 And then there's this weird trend where, in some academic circles, they're trying to label them as minor attracted persons, which is just this thing of just empathy falling into chaos.

00:23:48.000 Like, you have so much empathy that you're willing to ignore, you know, all kinds of crazy things.

00:23:54.000 Like, what's going on in the UK with the rape gangs?

00:23:56.000 They're willing to ignore it because they don't want to be deemed as being racist.

00:24:01.000 They don't want to be deemed as being Islamophobic.

00:24:03.000 Like, okay.

00:24:04.000 Yeah, that breakdown of culture and because of some very extreme groups is pretty scary.

00:24:15.000 It's super scary.

00:24:15.000 It's scary.

00:24:16.000 It's scary because it can happen anywhere in the world.

00:24:19.000 It can happen in America too. 0.99

00:24:21.000 And if you think it can't, you're nuts. 0.98

00:24:22.000 And the beautiful thing about America is you're supposed to be able to practice any religion you want. 0.99

00:24:28.000 You're supposed to be able to be a Buddhist.

00:24:30.000 You're supposed to be able to be a Baptist. 1.00

00:24:32.000 No one should care.

00:24:33.000 And we should all be able to get along.

00:24:34.000 It should be a true melting pot.

00:24:37.000 Other organizations that have different plans and their plans are to take over cities.

00:24:42.000 There's plans that are to take over cities and change the laws.

00:24:45.000 And we were talking about with Tim Dillon what happened with Dearborn, Michigan.

00:24:49.000 All these liberal people are like, yeah, we love Muslims.

00:24:52.000 Everyone's amazing.

00:24:53.000 So they got a Muslim mayor, and the first thing he did is like, no more pride flags. 1.00

00:24:56.000 Shit's illegal. 1.00

00:24:57.000 Because what he would like is Sharia law. 0.99

00:25:00.000 If you ask the majority of practicing Muslims worldwide, how many of them would like Sharia law?

00:25:06.000 And it's not a small amount.

00:25:09.000 You know, that's their religion.

00:25:11.000 But the problem with that is, like, you can't push that on other people.

00:25:14.000 If you want to have your mosque and you want to pray five times a day, wonderful.

00:25:17.000 You should be able to do that 100%.

00:25:19.000 Everybody should appreciate the fact that there's all sorts of different ways of worshiping God.

00:25:25.000 I don't know who's right.

00:25:25.000 Great.

00:25:26.000 But as soon as a culture starts taking over and putting in values that, first of all, degrade women, yeah, grossly deteriorate women's rights, grossly. 1.00

00:25:38.000 That's bad.

00:25:39.000 That's when it falls apart.

00:25:40.000 Well, and that's their culture, and you have to understand that they've accepted.

00:25:44.000 When they're wearing those traditional headgarbs and body coverings, that's their culture, and they want women to dress like that. 0.93

00:25:51.000 We have to stop that from spreading.

00:25:55.000 You should be able to do it if you want to, but the idea that you can take over a town or take over a city that's a flaw in our system because every city should have the same sort of national rights.

00:26:08.000 Every city should have the rights that we have where you can wear whatever you want to wear.

00:26:14.000 Practice whatever religion you want to practice, and you shouldn't be persecuted one way or the other. 0.84

00:26:20.000 But when you get a country like England that just lets them in mass migration, and then you're ignoring the chaos that comes with it, that's not good. 0.91

00:26:30.000 And that makes you wonder are they wanting the society to deteriorate to the point where they can say, hey, we're going to make new laws to protect you?

00:26:39.000 Because you need to protect.

00:26:41.000 So you have mass surveillance everywhere, more police on the streets, more people getting arrested.

00:26:46.000 And in England, you know, they're also getting arrested for social media posts.

00:26:50.000 I've been hearing about that.

00:26:52.000 Oh, it's nuts.

00:26:53.000 More than China, more than Russia, more than Russia and China combined.

00:26:56.000 Yeah.

00:26:57.000 It seems as if, you know, the grab for power is just, you know, done in plain sight now.

00:27:04.000 Yeah.

00:27:05.000 And I hate to say this, but they don't have the Second Amendment.

00:27:07.000 It's part of the problem.

00:27:09.000 Part of the problem is you're not armed. 0.97

00:27:11.000 So, like, when shit goes sideways, you don't have a lot of options, you know? 0.97

00:27:16.000 And what are you going to do? 0.97

00:27:17.000 All get together with. 1.00

00:27:18.000 Shovels. 1.00

00:27:19.000 What are you going to do?

00:27:20.000 Grandpa's got a bird gun.

00:27:22.000 Let's go get grandpa's bird gun. 1.00

00:27:24.000 The fuck are we doing? 0.99

00:27:25.000 Get grandpa's bird again. 1.00

00:27:28.000 That's no way to keep the police out of your town.

00:27:34.000 Yeah, it's not good. 0.97

00:27:36.000 I think hopefully there's enough sensible people where we're going to come out on the other end of this, but it's going to be real hard with this right versus left bullshit.

00:27:45.000 No, well, but not to toot your own horn here, but voices like yours are really important because you examine a lot of different people and you've pulled in like almost, I was thinking about the other day, like an encyclopedia of.

00:28:00.000 Of different types of people and different types of subject matter, where you can type it in a chat GPT now and say, Can you tell me about this thing that, you know, and then they'll, oh, would you want to hear a two hour podcast that Joe did about it with the expert of suts and such?

00:28:15.000 And that's pretty cool because then it expands people's mind.

00:28:19.000 It's much easier than having to, you know, go and read about something.

00:28:23.000 You're like, Oh, that's an interesting point.

00:28:25.000 Well, if it gets people stimulated, that's great.

00:28:27.000 But the reality is we should be teaching people to think correctly from the time they're young.

00:28:33.000 And I think we're spending way too much time giving them information and not teaching them how to think correctly.

00:28:38.000 And not also like, you know, giving them something that excites them and giving them something that they can understand why it's important to be interested in something, like why it can benefit you, how it can stimulate you, try new things out.

00:28:38.000 Yeah.

00:28:56.000 Like, oh, this is exciting.

00:28:57.000 I feel better.

00:28:58.000 I feel good.

00:28:58.000 Like, people like tasks, they like that.

00:29:00.000 And we should be taught that from the time we're young.

00:29:02.000 Instead, we're just basically groomed to becoming workers.

00:29:07.000 You know what's interesting is, so I turned 40 in March, and I decided I was going to take the year off.

00:29:14.000 So essentially 39 to 40, right?

00:29:16.000 Because I've been working head down for 20 years, hadn't looked up, been living out of a suitcase, movie to movie to movie to movie, you know, blah, And I thought it would make me, it would give me better perspective.

00:29:28.000 It would maybe whatever, you know, where am I going in the next 10 years, kind of my thinking.

00:29:36.000 And I actually got more depressed. 0.99

00:29:41.000 I was like, wait, what the fuck is going on? 0.99

00:29:44.000 I feel more depressed. 0.99

00:29:45.000 And it kind of just goes back to just stay busy. 1.00

00:29:49.000 Get up and do shit. 1.00

00:29:50.000 Well, the thing is, you're busy, but you're busy doing what you love. 1.00

00:29:54.000 And that is a gift.

00:29:55.000 That's a real gift.

00:29:57.000 And we're both very fortunate in that regard.

00:29:59.000 And anybody who's listening to this that actually does what they love, whatever it is beekeeping, carpentry, if you're doing what you love, you're so lucky.

00:30:07.000 Create.

00:30:07.000 Go out and create.

00:30:08.000 Don't take.

00:30:10.000 Be a creator.

00:30:11.000 And anything like.

00:30:12.000 If you're a plumber, whatever, you know, fix someone's pipes.

00:30:14.000 Yeah.

00:30:15.000 Have a purpose and create.

00:30:17.000 Don't take.

00:30:18.000 Oh, there's takers and there's creators, you know?

00:30:20.000 It's like, I was actually listening to podcasts and a guy said that and I was like, yep, that's it.

00:30:24.000 If you create, you're exponentially happier, I think, because you're giving society something to do.

00:30:31.000 It's a benefit to the people that are interacting with you with whatever you're doing.

00:30:35.000 Yeah.

00:30:36.000 And that's good for you for sure.

00:30:38.000 And I think, unfortunately, look, I don't want, The responsibility being the guy who gives everybody curious things to think about.

00:30:47.000 Well, you're not the only person.

00:30:49.000 No, but you are.

00:30:50.000 I really think that this kind of thinking, the kind of thinking that lets you explore things and gets you interested in things, should be in schools. 0.73

00:30:58.000 Instead of just forcing fucking history down their throats and math down their throats, give people the tools to be excited about things. 0.99

00:31:06.000 Show them cool shit. 1.00

00:31:07.000 So show them cool shit where they realize, like, oh, learning about things is actually really interesting. 0.99

00:31:12.000 It just has to be something you're interested in. 0.99

00:31:15.000 And then they'll realize, like, oh, I can get good at stuff.

00:31:19.000 I can pursue something instead of just being a cog in the wheel, like most people feel. 1.00

00:31:24.000 Most people feel like, fuck, the economy sucks. 1.00

00:31:26.000 The economy sucks. 1.00

00:31:27.000 I just got to get a job. 0.92

00:31:28.000 And then you just get home and you just want to play video games or do something to stimulate yourself because you hate jobs. 0.99

00:31:34.000 And then next thing you know, you're 35 and you don't know what the fuck you're doing and you're stuck. 0.98

00:31:39.000 And that's a lot of people, a lot of people listening to this right now. 0.96

00:31:43.000 And it's because they were never instructed how to think about things.

00:31:46.000 They were never instructed to try to find something that you're actually interested in.

00:31:51.000 Go do the thing, get the job.

00:31:52.000 Encourage that curiosity.

00:31:53.000 Yeah. 0.86

00:31:54.000 Whatever it is, man, being a fucking car mechanic, whatever thing you're interested in, there's got to be a Thing you just got to find that you can get good at anything, yeah, and that will produce money. 0.95

00:32:04.000 It's like it, the I also part of the problem is culturally, I think we place too much value in like becoming rich and oh, you got to do this, and it's like, no, no, no, hold on, don't miss the point, get good at something and you'll that you love, and then that will produce if you get good enough at anything, you'll make money at it for sure. 0.95

00:32:27.000 But the problem is like with kids, it's everything today, they want it fast, really fast.

00:32:32.000 They want Ozempic, right?

00:32:34.000 They don't want to go on a diet.

00:32:35.000 They want to get, you know, whatever it is, fill in the blank with whatever thing that they want to get really fast with scams, crypto, anything they're going to get rich quick.

00:32:46.000 You know, whatever they're going to do to get rich quick.

00:32:48.000 Because it's like this TikTok mind culture where people just want that easy, quick fix in a pill instead of doing the work.

00:32:56.000 When you think about a job or going down a career path, like acting, for instance, like what you did, first of all, you did it, you would think, oh, Great.

00:33:05.000 Clint Eastwood's his dad.

00:33:07.000 He'll help him. 1.00

00:33:08.000 No, fucking. 1.00

00:33:09.000 I made it worse for him. 1.00

00:33:11.000 It did.

00:33:12.000 People are like, nah.

00:33:13.000 You had to prove that you were a really good actor for like a long time before people go, oh, yeah, Scott's actually really good.

00:33:19.000 Because it's always going to be your Clint Eastwood's kid.

00:33:22.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:33:23.000 You know, and then he didn't fucking help you. 0.99

00:33:25.000 But like your grind was, I know you, your grind was years and of just fucking hustling and putting in the work. 0.98

00:33:33.000 Most people see that and they go, wait, how long is it going to take? 0.96

00:33:37.000 What?

00:33:38.000 14 years?

00:33:39.000 20 years?

00:33:40.000 What?

00:33:41.000 Like when we talk to comics, that's a big, big thing that comes up in comedy clubs.

00:33:45.000 Like most comedians say a comic isn't even really a comic until 10 years.

00:33:48.000 10,000 hour rule, right?

00:33:50.000 I mean, I don't know if that's real.

00:33:52.000 There's something to that.

00:33:53.000 There's something to reps for sure.

00:33:55.000 But I think intention is as important as what the hours are, you know, just the amount of time.

00:34:01.000 Yeah.

00:34:02.000 I think you're just mailing it in in the gym.

00:34:04.000 Yeah.

00:34:04.000 It's not the same as, I'm going to build this or get really good at that.

00:34:09.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:34:10.000 Especially skills.

00:34:11.000 Related things.

00:34:12.000 Like, jujitsu is a perfect example of that.

00:34:15.000 Jujitsu, 100% you get better the more you do it, but 1000% if you drill correctly and you have like mastery of the fundamentals of the techniques, like you really truly understand like leverage points, where you're supposed to be, when it's secured, when it's not, when there's an escape, when there's no escape.

00:34:33.000 If you don't understand that, you're just rolling around and just like resisting hard with people.

00:34:38.000 And you'll get somewhere, but you won't get nearly as far as you would get with focused.

00:34:44.000 Really systematic breaking down of techniques.

00:34:47.000 So it's like the 10,000 hour thing is, there's something to it.

00:34:51.000 The more you do it, the better you'll get.

00:34:53.000 But really, it's the intention that you put into each and everything you do.

00:34:56.000 That is as, if not more, important than the time.

00:35:02.000 It's about enthusiasm.

00:35:04.000 It's about enthusiasm and your willingness to look at it as objectively as possible.

00:35:10.000 Especially if you're, like with jujitsu, it's a thing, it's like your ego's involved because you don't want to get tapped out and you don't want to get.

00:35:16.000 Humiliated, and so you don't want to try things, so you keep a tight game and you never grow.

00:35:21.000 And it's your ego actually holds you back by that.

00:35:24.000 And that, but telling people that it's going to take that long, if you knew how long it would take to get to black belt, you're like, oh God, it's too much work.

00:35:33.000 Well, also, I think the thing you realize, you know, as your ego gets stripped from you doing jujitsu is that you realize, like, doesn't matter what level I'm at, there's always going to be a thousand more guys above that level that will still choke me out. 0.99

00:35:49.000 And you're going to, you realize how much, how, like, You're like, no, I kind of am a pussy. 0.98

00:35:55.000 You're like, I'm not, you know, I'm not as tough as I, you know, you know now. 0.99

00:36:00.000 You really know.

00:36:01.000 Well, I really know because I work for the UFC.

00:36:04.000 So, yeah, you know. 0.79

00:36:05.000 It's like, we're always around like every weekend dozens of guys who can kill me. 0.90

00:36:09.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:36:10.000 And then there's people that can kill them, which is crazy.

00:36:13.000 It's like, there's levels to levels, you know, when a guy like Ilya Taporia knocks out Max Holloway, like, whoa.

00:36:20.000 And then Justin Gagey beats up Ilya Taporia, like, whoa.

00:36:23.000 It's like, there's so many guys out there.

00:36:26.000 You have to be humble.

00:36:28.000 And it's good for you.

00:36:29.000 It's good for you to not be delusional.

00:36:31.000 Yeah.

00:36:31.000 But my point was for young people, they have to get interested in the path.

00:36:38.000 It can't be just the results.

00:36:39.000 And the path is really where you grow and you become something special in life.

00:36:44.000 You have to be on that path for a long ass time and try to keep getting better at it with every day, every effort you put into it. 0.97

00:36:52.000 Do it, whatever the fuck you're doing, do it to try to get better at that thing. 0.98

00:36:56.000 And eventually, success will come. 0.99

00:36:57.000 You're going to have to manage that success.

00:36:59.000 You're going to chase it.

00:37:00.000 You're going to have to figure things out.

00:37:01.000 But the most important thing should always be the path.

00:37:05.000 That's true.

00:37:05.000 Yeah.

00:37:06.000 I think that's in everything, in anything you do.

00:37:08.000 If you're making music, if you're writing books, it can't be I'm going to sell a million copies.

00:37:12.000 It's got to be I need to fucking make this the greatest literature that's ever been read.

00:37:19.000 But I also think we need to push because of this whole quick money thing, the morals and codes people have. 0.94

00:37:30.000 Are not taught enough to young people.

00:37:34.000 You know, do the right thing.

00:37:35.000 When you say you're going to do something, be there.

00:37:37.000 When you make a promise, do it.

00:37:40.000 Complete it. 1.00

00:37:41.000 Don't just, you know, people just are so happy and this culture of, you know, oh, whatever, fuck them. 1.00

00:37:48.000 We can just do whatever we want. 1.00

00:37:49.000 It's like, that's fucking terrible behavior to put out to young people. 0.95

00:37:55.000 You know, you've got to have a code and a value system. 0.98

00:38:00.000 That's what my dad, I mean, he was so.

00:38:02.000 You know, you make a promise.

00:38:03.000 That's all you have in this life is your word.

00:38:06.000 So it's like, you got to do something.

00:38:08.000 You got to like.

00:38:09.000 Your dad should have been president.

00:38:10.000 Why didn't he run for president?

00:38:11.000 He would have.

00:38:12.000 Because he did politics. 0.99

00:38:13.000 He would have fucking won. 0.99

00:38:14.000 I know he was the mayor of Carmel. 0.99

00:38:15.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:38:16.000 And then he said, never fucking again. 0.99

00:38:19.000 Because he realized it's people like. 1.00

00:38:20.000 He would have been a fucking president, though. 1.00

00:38:25.000 He would have been, you know. 1.00

00:38:26.000 I don't know if I would have liked it, though.

00:38:27.000 Then it would have been like everyone.

00:38:29.000 No, everyone would have come after me for no reason.

00:38:31.000 Bro, you'd have been Don Jr. Jesus.

00:38:35.000 Way to put you in the box.

00:38:38.000 Roped up into some crypto scheme.

00:38:41.000 Everybody would hate you.

00:38:43.000 Making billions.

00:38:45.000 Yeah.

00:38:46.000 Jeez, Louise.

00:38:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:38:48.000 Yeah, politics are dirty.

00:38:49.000 I wouldn't have done it either if I was him.

00:38:51.000 But, you know, like when Ronald Reagan ran, a lot of people were like, finally, finally, a guy who is good at acting.

00:38:58.000 I mean, that's kind of what the president is.

00:39:02.000 It's a role.

00:39:04.000 Part of it is a role.

00:39:06.000 Like you're playing a leader, and the way you behave, it's like you have to, it's very formal.

00:39:10.000 The way you communicate is very formal.

00:39:12.000 Yeah.

00:39:13.000 You know, and actors are going to be better at that.

00:39:16.000 You know, like Josh Brolin, that guy could be the president.

00:39:19.000 100%. 0.97

00:39:21.000 That dude could kill it as the president. 0.80

00:39:22.000 He looks like a president.

00:39:24.000 Didn't he play a president in the George Bush movie?

00:39:26.000 Yes.

00:39:27.000 That's right.

00:39:27.000 He played Bush.

00:39:28.000 Yeah.

00:39:29.000 He could be president.

00:39:30.000 You know?

00:39:32.000 I know they tried to get The Rock to run.

00:39:34.000 I think he was thinking about it.

00:39:34.000 Yeah.

00:39:35.000 Not much.

00:39:35.000 Yeah.

00:39:36.000 He told me, fuck this. 1.00

00:39:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:39:39.000 Or maybe he was just hyping it up.

00:39:40.000 He was kind of, he was toying with, he was like, yeah, I'm going to do it.

00:39:43.000 He's very smart with social media.

00:39:43.000 I'm going to do it.

00:39:46.000 He's a wizard at that stuff.

00:39:46.000 Yeah.

00:39:48.000 But I think he's too smart to run for president.

00:39:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:39:51.000 Get that giant ass pro wrestler. 1.00

00:39:54.000 Get that guy. 0.99

00:39:54.000 He should be our president. 0.99

00:39:57.000 At least we know that our president could fuck up all the other presidents. 0.99

00:40:00.000 That would be nice. 0.98

00:40:01.000 No, that's what I'd like to see.

00:40:02.000 I'd like to see some sort of version.

00:40:04.000 It's like, okay, great.

00:40:05.000 You got to be smart enough, but you also have to maybe do some sort of fight or some sort of physical competition because you can't just be, you know, you got to be athletic.

00:40:18.000 You got to be, you know, that would be cool.

00:40:20.000 It's a great organization to show, anyways.

00:40:22.000 We should really make them do about seven grams of mushrooms.

00:40:26.000 Anybody who wants to be president, that'd be good.

00:40:28.000 You do seven grams of mushrooms.

00:40:29.000 We film it.

00:40:30.000 We do it in a dark room with infrared cameras or night vision cameras.

00:40:35.000 Freak out.

00:40:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:40:36.000 We want to know how well you handle God.

00:40:40.000 But also expand your mind a little bit.

00:40:42.000 Don't be so rigid in your ways, right?

00:40:44.000 Yeah, well, also, I think a lot of those people would benefit from a psychedelic experience because it would just make them realize that there's a lot more to the world than you could see right in front of your.

00:40:52.000 Face and you don't think that until you have it, and then you have it, and you'll never think any differently again.

00:40:57.000 You're always going to be like, Okay, there's a part of this that's not real.

00:41:01.000 Oh, no, I did.

00:41:02.000 I trust me, I did the 5MEO, and it was, I mean, that was some life changing stuff.

00:41:09.000 Well, you feel like you're dead when you take that stuff, right?

00:41:11.000 That's the first thing you think, like, Oh my god, I killed myself.

00:41:13.000 Yeah, like I'm not around anymore.

00:41:14.000 Yeah, yeah, and and and I think what was the most powerful thing was when you come back, it's it felt like seeing the world for the very first time again.

00:41:24.000 Like the first time you saw grass, the first time you saw the sun, the first time you felt the wind.

00:41:30.000 Yeah.

00:41:30.000 I mean, I cried.

00:41:32.000 I bawled for 45 minutes in my buddy's girlfriend's arms after I did it.

00:41:37.000 Whoa.

00:41:37.000 And I was like, I'm just so.

00:41:39.000 No, it got uncomfortable after about five seconds of Billy K. Scott.

00:41:43.000 Don't cry on the couch.

00:41:44.000 It's enough.

00:41:45.000 Why are you hugging my girlfriend, bro? 1.00

00:41:50.000 You handsome bastard. 1.00

00:41:52.000 Get off of her. 1.00

00:41:53.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:41:55.000 But it was powerful enough.

00:41:56.000 Well, your ego is completely shattered after that stuff.

00:42:00.000 You probably weren't even thinking of who you're hugging.

00:42:02.000 You just want to hug a human.

00:42:04.000 And the feeling of it is so like you're a part of everything in the universe.

00:42:10.000 And there is no particular destination, it doesn't exist.

00:42:15.000 You're a part of everything all at once.

00:42:18.000 It's a very strange feeling.

00:42:20.000 And no one has ever done it and go, I didn't think it was that big a deal.

00:42:24.000 Everybody who does it is like, wow.

00:42:26.000 Yeah.

00:42:27.000 Like, I've known, I know a few prominent right wing people that have done it.

00:42:33.000 They would have completely changed their life.

00:42:36.000 A couple of them don't even talk about it, so I don't want to mention any names.

00:42:39.000 Yeah.

00:42:39.000 But then they want to talk to me about it.

00:42:41.000 And they're like, yeah, so I'm a different person now.

00:42:44.000 Like, whoever I used to be, I'm not that guy anymore.

00:42:47.000 Like, that's, that's, because once you know, once you know that you really are a part of the whole universe and it's like all the molecules, everything everywhere is connected, there is no space.

00:42:59.000 There's no space between anything, everything is filled with something.

00:43:02.000 It's all a soup.

00:43:04.000 It's a giant soup of energy and vibration.

00:43:08.000 It kind of made me sad for the people who will never try it and are so dealing with so much pain or dealing with such a rigid thinking or whatever it is that it could help them.

00:43:22.000 And I was like, oh man, that is sad.

00:43:25.000 The rigid thinking is a big one.

00:43:27.000 It's interesting that it's becoming much more accepted to talk about.

00:43:31.000 You know, I see like grown adults who are very successful, who run businesses, and they talk about psychedelics. 0.99

00:43:39.000 And when I was young, When people talked about magic mushrooms or anything like that, it was always like you were a fool. 0.99

00:43:47.000 You were a crazy person who wanted to trip and see things that weren't there. 0.97

00:43:51.000 It was never like you were trying to expand your consciousness and you were trying to just enrich your experience in life and have a better perspective and ego death and all those things that people are trying to do and be more connected to God. 0.96

00:44:05.000 But now it's commonly discussed.

00:44:08.000 It comes up all the time.

00:44:09.000 So the public's perception on this has really radically shifted in my lifetime.

00:44:15.000 And I think.

00:44:16.000 It's because of the internet.

00:44:18.000 I think it's really started to change where I heard people talking about it in the early 2000s.

00:44:25.000 And it was even before social media, because there were a bunch of articles that were written and a bunch of people were talking about positive psychedelic experiences and people were talking about how it helped them quit heroin and people were talking about all these different things that were connected to mushrooms in particular, but then all the Terrence McKenna stuff that he was talking about, DMT and LSD and a bunch of different psychedelics that have helped him.

00:44:50.000 And so.

00:44:51.000 All this stuff started getting out there, and then YouTube.

00:44:54.000 And with YouTube and with podcasts, then people really started hearing about it from people like Michael Pollan.

00:45:01.000 And you're like, whoa, Michael Pollan is a very respected journalist.

00:45:04.000 Like, what is he talking about?

00:45:05.000 He's writing a book about psychedelics called Change Your Mind.

00:45:08.000 Like, what?

00:45:09.000 And so it's now where rational, intelligent, educated people are free to talk about it, and they often do.

00:45:17.000 And so that's just alone gives me hope because I feel like that's a big change.

00:45:23.000 And how people view something.

00:45:24.000 Well, was it, and I don't exactly know the history, but I've heard, was there alcohol lobbyists that were trying to kind of suppress weed use?

00:45:37.000 The alcohol lobby has.

00:45:39.000 Did it also go to psychedelics as well?

00:45:42.000 Well, I'm sure they are leaning in the direction of it not being legalized, but the problem with alcohol and marijuana is that places that do have legal marijuana, you see a diminished alcohol.

00:45:42.000 They haven't yet, no.

00:45:56.000 The diminished alcohol intake is measurable.

00:46:00.000 It's like it costs them money.

00:46:01.000 It's real.

00:46:02.000 You also have the darker thing, which is prison lobbies.

00:46:05.000 Explain.

00:46:05.000 They lobby prison guards unions.

00:46:05.000 Yeah.

00:46:09.000 They lobby.

00:46:10.000 There's a bunch of people that lobby to make marijuana laws keep them on the books so they can keep locking people up.

00:46:17.000 Sure, because that's a massive business, right? 0.97

00:46:18.000 Their business is keeping people in cages, which is really fucking crazy. 0.96

00:46:21.000 Yeah, that's pretty crazy. 0.93

00:46:23.000 really fucking crazy yeah that's pretty it's really crazy that someone is who's in the business of locking people up can actually lobby to make sure more people get locked up and get locked up Yeah, and especially marijuana. 0.89

00:46:34.000 Most Americans don't think that it should be illegal. 0.98

00:46:36.000 It's a large number.

00:46:39.000 It's like more than 70%, I think.

00:46:43.000 What amount of Americans think that marijuana should be legal?

00:46:47.000 Let's see if there's a poll.

00:46:51.000 Put that into perplexity. 0.87

00:46:53.000 See what the universe says.

00:46:54.000 I would say it's about 67% of Americans think marijuana should be legalized.

00:46:57.000 Yeah.

00:46:57.000 Legalized?

00:46:58.000 67% of Americans think marijuana should be legalized.

00:47:02.000 Legalized?

00:47:03.000 Yeah.

00:47:04.000 What do you think about all drugs being legal?

00:47:07.000 It's a tough argument because for sure you're going to lose some people.

00:47:11.000 If you make all drugs legal, look, if they made drugs legal right now, I'm not going to go buy heroin.

00:47:17.000 I'm not buying fentanyl, right?

00:47:18.000 I'm not into meth.

00:47:19.000 I'm not interested.

00:47:21.000 If I could go to the pharmacy and pick up meth, I'm not going to pick it up.

00:47:24.000 But some people will.

00:47:25.000 70%.

00:47:26.000 70% of Americans say marijuana should be legal in general, according to Recep Gallup poll.

00:47:31.000 If you include people who support either medical or recreational legalization, it's 88 to 89%.

00:47:38.000 U.S. adults say marijuana should be legal in at least some form, with only about 11% wanting it to be completely illegal.

00:47:44.000 And those people need to try it.

00:47:47.000 So, look, I'm actually.

00:47:49.000 Pot never agreed well with me.

00:47:50.000 And I think I have.

00:47:53.000 I got a little scared and paranoid sometimes where I was like, maybe I have like a propensity to like some sort of schizophrenia or something.

00:47:53.000 I always.

00:48:01.000 I was like, ooh, this isn't.

00:48:03.000 I was like, I don't like this. 0.90

00:48:04.000 This made me kind of go sciko schematic. 0.97

00:48:08.000 So, did it just make you scared or did it distort reality for you in a way that was.

00:48:13.000 No, I don't know if it distorted reality.

00:48:16.000 It just got my brain so freaked out about things that were out of my control.

00:48:24.000 That's the part I like.

00:48:26.000 Now, I can see why because mushrooms, they make you face some things that are going on in your life.

00:48:32.000 Yeah.

00:48:33.000 And I think that's healthy.

00:48:34.000 Yeah.

00:48:35.000 I don't know.

00:48:35.000 Pot just never agreed with me.

00:48:37.000 I think what I like about it is when it wears off.

00:48:43.000 I like that fear.

00:48:45.000 I like, like Joey Diaz says, go meet the devil.

00:48:49.000 I think there's some benefit to freaking out because then it calms down and you have more perspective.

00:48:55.000 But I think what's going on is you really can't think about all the threats of the world and all the problems in the world and all the things that can go wrong in your life.

00:49:02.000 You can't think about those on a regular basis.

00:49:04.000 You got to kind of put your blinders on and keep on trucking.

00:49:06.000 And then marijuana is like, What's that in the corner of the room that you're scared of?

00:49:11.000 And you're like, oh!

00:49:15.000 But I will say, as you know, important, like before the frontal cortex is like fully developed, because there is some danger for young men specifically.

00:49:25.000 Right?

00:49:25.000 Yes.

00:49:26.000 Yes.

00:49:26.000 And schizophrenia and like, you know, some stuff that can come if you're not.

00:49:30.000 I think that's with anything, right?

00:49:31.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:49:32.000 It causes schizophrenia, but it's really bad for brain development, especially young people that smoke regularly.

00:49:32.000 Too much alcohol.

00:49:38.000 It's not good for you.

00:49:39.000 It's just not good for you.

00:49:41.000 And, um, I know that's hard for people to hear because they want to get high.

00:49:45.000 Just trust me. 1.00

00:49:46.000 If you're getting high all the time when you're 14 years old, it's going to fuck your head up. 1.00

00:49:50.000 It's not good for you. 1.00

00:49:51.000 It's just not good for your brain development.

00:49:53.000 And it's one of the most important things about you as a human being your ability to think well.

00:49:59.000 It's very important.

00:50:00.000 100%.

00:50:00.000 It's your operating system.

00:50:02.000 Don't screw it up before it has a time to like.

00:50:04.000 And just for hee hees and ha ha's because you're bored in math class, you want to get high all the time.

00:50:09.000 You know, I mean, people have done it and got away with it and they're okay, but a lot of people have not.

00:50:14.000 And you don't want to sabotage your whole life just because everybody you know is getting high.

00:50:18.000 It's just not worth it.

00:50:19.000 And that also goes with alcohol.

00:50:22.000 There's young people that are like 14, 15 years old that are getting drunk four or five times a week.

00:50:26.000 Like, don't do it, man. 1.00

00:50:27.000 I'm telling you, it is fucking bad for the development of your brain. 0.99

00:50:32.000 Look, maybe you have a very high potential. 0.99

00:50:34.000 Maybe your brain, maybe you're always going to be smart and you're going to be fine.

00:50:37.000 But I guarantee you, if you're getting drunk all the time and getting high all the time, wherever you would be is not where you are.

00:50:44.000 You might be still a very high intellect, still very smart.

00:50:47.000 You would have been smarter.

00:50:48.000 Your brain would have functioned better.

00:50:49.000 You would have probably had a better perspective.

00:50:52.000 It's not good for you.

00:50:53.000 Yeah.

00:50:54.000 And, you know, we glamorize it for kids.

00:50:57.000 Like the kids at parties drinking, having a good time. 0.99

00:50:59.000 It's fucking bad for you. 0.99

00:51:01.000 Don't do it. 0.98

00:51:02.000 But you can't, you also can't tell them don't drink because if you tell them don't drink, they just want to drink.

00:51:02.000 Yeah.

00:51:08.000 You just got to kind of explain them.

00:51:10.000 Well, Europe tends to have like a better, it seems as a whole.

00:51:15.000 I'm sure they have their problems too, but it seems better.

00:51:17.000 Yeah.

00:51:18.000 You know, their ease into it, right?

00:51:20.000 Have a little.

00:51:21.000 Like less is more without, like with anything, actually.

00:51:24.000 Less is more.

00:51:25.000 You know, it's not forbidden.

00:51:27.000 So, you can have a glass of wine with your family when you're 11, 12 years old.

00:51:31.000 You know, it's not that big a deal. 0.75

00:51:33.000 That Protestant culture we have is very rigid.

00:51:36.000 It's like, don't do this or you're going to die. 1.00

00:51:39.000 It creates drug addicts and hoes. 1.00

00:51:41.000 People just want to not listen to their parents. 1.00

00:51:46.000 They just want to do something that's fucking dead. 0.99

00:51:48.000 Like, whatever you're doing, I'm doing the opposite because you are fucking annoying and you've been the bane of my existence. 0.99

00:51:54.000 As soon as I get out of this house, I'm smoking crack. 1.00

00:51:56.000 Fuck you, dad. 1.00

00:51:56.000 You don't know what you're talking about. 1.00

00:51:58.000 So to get back to your question, the problem with legalization is you're going to have a bunch of people that do drugs that wouldn't do drugs normally because it's legal.

00:52:06.000 But what about when you're of age, like I don't know, call it 25?

00:52:09.000 Yeah, but even then, you're going to have a bunch of people that don't like their life and just decide to go to the corner store and pick up some heroin.

00:52:15.000 However, what you're not going to do is empower the drug cartels and organize crime, and that's what we're doing now.

00:52:25.000 People are going to get drugs.

00:52:29.000 So, how are they going to get drugs during prohibition?

00:52:31.000 Well, they're going to get drugs from criminals.

00:52:32.000 That's what they've always done.

00:52:34.000 That's what they did during the alcohol prohibition.

00:52:35.000 That's what people do.

00:52:37.000 And when you've got a multi billion dollar industry, maybe trillion dollar industry right next door to us, which is Mexico, and they're just bringing it through, bringing it through, like what are we doing?

00:52:49.000 Are we empowering them? 0.93

00:52:49.000 Or would you rather have it legal and have a substantial portion of those profits, block out everything that comes in illegally, have a substantial amount of those profits put to rehabilitation and treatment? 0.93

00:53:01.000 Mm hmm.

00:53:02.000 So, yeah, I was also thinking from a quality perspective, too, right?

00:53:06.000 Like, you're like, hey, that's cool.

00:53:07.000 We get it.

00:53:09.000 People are going to do this, but we're going to monitor it and make sure it is what it says it is.

00:53:14.000 Look, alcohol is legal.

00:53:14.000 Yeah.

00:53:16.000 There's a lot of people that don't drink, they don't like it.

00:53:19.000 They don't like the way it makes them feel.

00:53:20.000 They don't like the way it makes them act. 1.00

00:53:21.000 They say stupid things. 1.00

00:53:22.000 They feel like shit in the morning. 1.00

00:53:24.000 They don't drink. 1.00

00:53:25.000 That will be the same with cocaine.

00:53:27.000 That will be the same with heroin.

00:53:28.000 However, there's some people that are alcoholics, and alcohol is legal, and it's everywhere. 0.95

00:53:32.000 And these people will hit bars and get fucked up every night, and their life is going to be a mess, and they're going to die of liver poisoning. 0.96

00:53:37.000 That's normal too. 0.99

00:53:38.000 It's very unfortunate, but you can't nerf the world.

00:53:41.000 You've got to trust a little bit.

00:53:41.000 Yeah.

00:53:44.000 Yeah.

00:53:45.000 It would be really hard to sell to America that cocaine, heroin, and meth are now all legal.

00:53:52.000 It would be really hard to sell to them.

00:53:54.000 Yeah.

00:53:54.000 But I think ultimately, it would probably be better for us.

00:53:59.000 Yeah.

00:53:59.000 All those other things that.

00:54:00.000 Those are less troublesome.

00:54:01.000 You know, not a lot of people are dying from MDMA, but people definitely abuse it.

00:54:06.000 They definitely get addicted to it.

00:54:07.000 They're doing it all the time. 1.00

00:54:09.000 Apparently, that whole thing about making holes in your brain is bullshit. 1.00

00:54:12.000 Oh, really? 1.00

00:54:12.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:54:13.000 That was a campaign? 0.91

00:54:14.000 Oh, I think it was probably just some internet horseshit.

00:54:17.000 Let's find out what it does. 0.98

00:54:20.000 Does MDMA cause holes in your brain?

00:54:20.000 MDMA does.

00:54:23.000 Put that in there.

00:54:25.000 See what Perplexity has to say.

00:54:27.000 Well, they think they've proven that these are the cases.

00:54:29.000 Couples therapy, right?

00:54:30.000 I mean, that was the impetus of the whole thing.

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00:55:34.000 Well, I know they do use it for couples therapy, but it's also really good for soldiers with PTSD.

00:55:40.000 And that's what MAPS has done with their studies.

00:55:43.000 That's the big focus of their studies is PTSD with MDMA.

00:55:48.000 There's something about MDMAs.

00:55:50.000 The empathy that it gives you, the compassion it gives you, lets you drop a lot of things that are in your head.

00:55:54.000 No, MDMA does not literally punch holes in the brain that would show up as empty gaps on a scan.

00:56:00.000 But high or repeated doses can damage serotonin neurons and alter brain signaling, especially with heavy use.

00:56:08.000 So, where did the holes idea come from?

00:56:10.000 Anti drug companies popularized dramatic brain scan images that were described as showing holes, but these were actually areas of reduced activity or reduced binding of certain markers, not physical gaps in brain tissue.

00:56:23.000 Still, that sounds bad.

00:56:25.000 Reduced activity, reduced binding of certain markers.

00:56:28.000 That sounds terrible.

00:56:31.000 I chalk up all this.

00:56:32.000 It's like moderation to everything.

00:56:35.000 Less of everything.

00:56:35.000 Yeah.

00:56:37.000 It's like, I disagree with some people that I really trust.

00:56:41.000 You know, what's his name?

00:56:43.000 Dr. Paul Saladino?

00:56:45.000 Was it the carnivore doctor?

00:56:46.000 Yeah.

00:56:47.000 I really like most of what he says, but he's like, don't drink.

00:56:50.000 And it's like, well, maybe.

00:56:54.000 But also, It's maybe pretty nice to have a glass of wine.

00:56:56.000 It's nice to laugh with friends.

00:56:58.000 And it's nice, like, that's important too in life.

00:56:58.000 Yeah.

00:57:01.000 And I think balance, we can, you tip the scale one way if you're totally extreme, and then you're just like this social life and you're, you know, you can't, you know, go out and like, you know, really enjoy yourself for a second.

00:57:13.000 Yeah.

00:57:14.000 That's important.

00:57:14.000 Moderation.

00:57:15.000 Moderation.

00:57:16.000 And you're absolutely right about social life being, what, loneliness kills people quicker than anything else.

00:57:22.000 Yeah.

00:57:22.000 100%.

00:57:23.000 People that are lonely, they have, they die younger than people who smoke cigarettes.

00:57:28.000 That's not crazy.

00:57:28.000 Well, it's bad for you.

00:57:30.000 Being lonely is actually bad for you.

00:57:30.000 Yeah.

00:57:32.000 Feeling bad is bad for you.

00:57:34.000 I mean, it seems like it should be, right?

00:57:35.000 Feels bad.

00:57:35.000 It's bad.

00:57:36.000 Probably bad for you.

00:57:37.000 Feeling good is good for you.

00:57:39.000 So a little tipsy with your friends.

00:57:40.000 You're laughing.

00:57:41.000 I love you.

00:57:42.000 I love you too, bro.

00:57:43.000 It's great.

00:57:44.000 It's great for people.

00:57:44.000 It's great.

00:57:45.000 Yeah, you're going to feel like shit. 1.00

00:57:46.000 Take your electrolytes. 1.00

00:57:48.000 Take your electrolytes.

00:57:49.000 Drink a lot of water.

00:57:50.000 Bounce. 1.00

00:57:51.000 Get in the fucking sauna. 1.00

00:57:52.000 Don't do it every day. 1.00

00:57:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:53.000 Don't do it every day.

00:57:55.000 Get an IV.

00:57:57.000 Dave Chappelle taught me that trick.

00:57:59.000 When I was touring with Dave, all he would do is like after shows, they would just get IVs.

00:58:04.000 He would get vitamin IVs in the morning.

00:58:06.000 They would do it all the time to big bags of glutathione to deal with the alcohol.

00:58:11.000 Yep.

00:58:12.000 Yeah.

00:58:13.000 You'd go into like, Dave would have a room. 0.99

00:58:15.000 You'd go into the room, there'd be like eight of us there all hooked up to IV bags, talking shit. 0.99

00:58:20.000 It was fun. 0.99

00:58:21.000 That sounds good.

00:58:22.000 But it's smart.

00:58:23.000 Like, that's how you counteract the fact that, look, he takes a lot, there's a lot of benefit, particularly for his job, right? 0.97

00:58:29.000 Like Dave's job is being silly and pointing out ridiculous aspects of our society. 0.99

00:58:35.000 What better way to do that than to be talking shit with your friends with a couple drinks in you? 1.00

00:58:40.000 Imagine all the things you would have missed. 1.00

00:58:42.000 That wouldn't have been in your comedy, that wouldn't have been in your life.

00:58:42.000 Yeah.

00:58:46.000 Yeah.

00:58:47.000 Hadn't you?

00:58:47.000 You've just, I got to go home now.

00:58:49.000 It's eight o'clock.

00:58:50.000 I got to go home.

00:58:51.000 No, that's boring.

00:58:51.000 You're like, what?

00:58:52.000 Exactly.

00:58:53.000 You become a boring person, too.

00:58:54.000 But there's also balance.

00:58:55.000 Sometimes you have to realize, like, oh, I've done this dance before.

00:58:58.000 I got to get up at six.

00:59:00.000 Yep.

00:59:00.000 See you guys.

00:59:01.000 There's good to that, too.

00:59:02.000 It's like you have to have discipline, but you also have to have the ability to cut loose.

00:59:07.000 And it's hard.

00:59:07.000 It's hard to balance those things out.

00:59:09.000 You know, like you're saying about vitamins, like, I'm getting off the boat, I'm on the boat, you know?

00:59:12.000 Yeah.

00:59:13.000 Like that.

00:59:13.000 It's like there's some things that should be non negotiable.

00:59:17.000 And for me, there's two.

00:59:18.000 There's nutrition and exercise.

00:59:20.000 Those are non negotiables. 0.98

00:59:21.000 All the other things I'll fuck around with in terms of like. 0.98

00:59:24.000 They're all bonus, right? 0.98

00:59:25.000 Yeah.

00:59:26.000 Bonus rounds.

00:59:27.000 You have to get cardio.

00:59:28.000 You have to hit weights.

00:59:29.000 You've got to stretch.

00:59:30.000 You've got to get good sleep.

00:59:32.000 Yeah.

00:59:32.000 I have to do the workout stuff just for my brain.

00:59:36.000 Above the body stuff, it's great to keep the body healthy, and I'm very aware of that, and I think about that as well.

00:59:41.000 But for me, it's my brain.

00:59:43.000 When I have a nice, good, hard workout day, I'm so easygoing.

00:59:47.000 I'm so free.

00:59:48.000 Do you have ADHD?

00:59:49.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:59:50.000 Okay, same.

00:59:51.000 I think everybody does.

00:59:52.000 Anybody who's any good at anything has it.

00:59:54.000 Every ADHD guy thinks everyone has ADHD.

00:59:57.000 I think it's a superpower.

00:59:58.000 No, I do too.

00:59:59.000 I always tell people, and you're probably dyslexic.

01:00:02.000 No, not really.

01:00:03.000 You're not dyslexic.

01:00:03.000 Yeah.

01:00:04.000 Okay, because that goes hand in hand quite often.

01:00:07.000 Yeah.

01:00:08.000 Are you dyslexic?

01:00:09.000 I'm dyslexic.

01:00:10.000 And now, so explain to me what you see when you see text.

01:00:14.000 I jump.

01:00:15.000 I jump.

01:00:15.000 Oh.

01:00:16.000 So, you know, you need to go left to right.

01:00:18.000 Uh huh.

01:00:19.000 My brain.

01:00:20.000 Starts and then jumps and then it goes.

01:00:22.000 Is it regardless of the subject matter?

01:00:25.000 Like if you're reading about something really interesting, does it do the same thing?

01:00:28.000 Yeah.

01:00:29.000 Now it just takes intense focus for me to read.

01:00:33.000 And once I get in a good rhythm, I can get going.

01:00:36.000 I can train my brain to read better.

01:00:39.000 But when I'm not focused or there's other things going on, I jump and then my brain has a really tough time.

01:00:47.000 So I get tired very easily.

01:00:50.000 And then it's like, oh, and I get, you know, I get a little frustrated, tired, and then I fall asleep.

01:00:55.000 Like that.

01:00:56.000 I do fall asleep if I try to read at night, but I don't have a hard time reading, so I don't have the dyslexic thing.

01:01:02.000 But I've had friends that have it, and I don't understand.

01:01:05.000 I'm like, so you see it, right?

01:01:07.000 And you're going through it, but what is going on with your brain where it's making you jump back and forth?

01:01:12.000 I don't know.

01:01:12.000 I think it's just losing focus.

01:01:14.000 I don't know.

01:01:15.000 And regardless of the, like, it could be the most important thing you've ever read.

01:01:19.000 You know, like, what if you just won the lottery?

01:01:21.000 You got a piece of paper in the mail.

01:01:23.000 Oh, Scott, I'm reading that.

01:01:24.000 You just won five.

01:01:25.000 Billion dollars, and you're like, wait a minute, do I owe five billion?

01:01:28.000 What does that say?

01:01:29.000 I can't read this, read this for me.

01:01:31.000 Yeah, no, I don't, yeah, it's just, I don't know if it's about the text messages are cool.

01:01:37.000 Yeah, I mean, all it's all it just is harder.

01:01:41.000 And now, you know, it like when I grew up, they didn't give any sort of special treatment to that.

01:01:47.000 Now it's almost mandatory in schools, right?

01:01:50.000 If you're dyslexic, they give you more time for test taking, they give you more time for reading, they have you know, uh, teachers that will help with the dyslexia.

01:01:58.000 There's tools you can.

01:02:02.000 So I got kind of boned.

01:02:02.000 Yeah.

01:02:03.000 I have to check something here.

01:02:04.000 This is something weird.

01:02:06.000 Could be related.

01:02:07.000 I've been seeing this a lot online and I'm very curious about this.

01:02:12.000 People are saying there's a link between ADHD symptoms, I guess we'll call it, and histamine levels in your body.

01:02:20.000 And I brought this up on the screen.

01:02:22.000 It's not on shown for everybody, but there's something that pops up about it.

01:02:26.000 There is some studies to it.

01:02:28.000 And what I've been seeing is this link people are taking Zyrtec and Pepsidase C together.

01:02:33.000 Which creates some sort of histamine receptor blocking?

01:02:38.000 Huh.

01:02:39.000 Interesting.

01:02:40.000 And this is where I'm like, I don't know.

01:02:41.000 It blocks histamine receptors located in the blood vessels, airway, and skin, and reducing allergic responses, sinus congestion.

01:02:48.000 So they're saying that it's a reaction to histamines?

01:02:52.000 That's the mixture of Zyrtec, because Zyrtec is more like allergies.

01:02:54.000 Everyone's into that.

01:02:55.000 Pepsidase C is like acid, and you know, there's different things that they're talking about when they're saying ADHD. 0.94

01:03:02.000 Like, I could see people being easily distracted, but when I say ADHD, the people that I know that have it, usually there's one or two things in their life that they can really fucking focus on.

01:03:14.000 You know, whether it's playing golf or whatever it is, a thing that you do where you could just focus on that.

01:03:19.000 But other stuff, you're just scatterbrained.

01:03:22.000 And they'll say, oh, you have ADHD.

01:03:23.000 Yep.

01:03:23.000 You know, or, you know, you're thinking a million things at once, you can't focus.

01:03:28.000 That's what they always call ADHD.

01:03:30.000 But everyone that I know that has that, it's always whether or not they're interested in the thing. 0.81

01:03:35.000 As soon as they find the thing they're interested in, they can lock in for fucking 12 hours and forget to eat. 0.75

01:03:35.000 Sure. 0.75

01:03:41.000 Well, you know how some people, when pressure, I'm sorry to cut you off.

01:03:45.000 When, like, You squeeze people, they either excel or they fold.

01:03:49.000 Right.

01:03:50.000 When you squeeze, typically I excel.

01:03:52.000 So I don't know where that comes from, but when you put the pressure on, I mean, that's why maybe, you know, I can do the job I do.

01:03:59.000 It's like there's 200 people looking at you and you're ready.

01:04:02.000 This is an emotional scene and you've got to bring yourself to tears or it's emotional.

01:04:06.000 It's like you squeeze.

01:04:09.000 Some people are good at it.

01:04:10.000 Yeah, but it's also you had to be good at it because you didn't have a backup plan.

01:04:15.000 You know, that's also part of it.

01:04:17.000 It's like, you know, your dad wasn't going to help you out.

01:04:20.000 You really were out there.

01:04:22.000 Like, if you want to make it in anything, you have to be able to perform.

01:04:25.000 Like, no matter what it is, if you're a lawyer, when you're in court, you have to perform. 0.99

01:04:29.000 You have to be able to, like, keep your shit together and execute. 0.99

01:04:33.000 That's your job relies on that. 0.99

01:04:35.000 And if you're a focused person, you recognize that and you work hard to make sure that you focus and that you can execute when it's important.

01:04:42.000 It's like people that avoid things that make them uncomfortable, they never develop that skill.

01:04:48.000 And that's very unfortunate because it's one of the most important skills you could ever have with anything is being able to.

01:04:54.000 Focus and being able to perform under pressure.

01:04:57.000 It's very important.

01:04:58.000 And we're missing that in life. 0.99

01:05:00.000 We don't have these life or death moments like that our ancestors had all the time, where some fucking villagers are sneaking up over the hill and you spot them and you run back to the fucking camp and you grab the bows and arrows and you go to war. 0.99

01:05:12.000 We don't have that. 0.97

01:05:13.000 So we don't have a constant checking of whether or not your pressure system is functional.

01:05:20.000 Yeah.

01:05:21.000 I mean, to bring it to this movie that I've got coming out tomorrow.

01:05:25.000 It's a World War II movie.

01:05:28.000 Lucky Strike, I'll say the name, plug it.

01:05:31.000 That generation of men had that, right?

01:05:34.000 Because they, I mean, World War II, I talked to my dad about it, what it was like.

01:05:40.000 He was only like 12 years old when World War II was going on.

01:05:43.000 But he says he remembers listening to the radio and everyone in the family listening, like you could hear pins and needles because it was, we didn't know what was going to happen.

01:05:54.000 I mean, people were scared for their life, even back home in America.

01:05:59.000 They didn't know what was going to happen. 0.83

01:06:01.000 And that, I think, is why that generation of men and women are just from a different breed. 0.99

01:06:07.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:06:08.000 You know, and, you know, you've said it before on your podcast.

01:06:11.000 It's like the hard, hard men, you know, create easier times, easier times create.

01:06:16.000 It's like the cycle that we're in.

01:06:17.000 It's, it's, yeah, I don't know.

01:06:21.000 It's, I don't know.

01:06:22.000 I think we need a little bit of that. 0.79

01:06:24.000 We need a little hard, harder men. 0.97

01:06:25.000 100%. 0.98

01:06:27.000 Well, we need to stop using this term toxic masculinity.

01:06:31.000 No, there's criminal behavior. 0.63

01:06:32.000 Like, toxic masculinity is a guy who beats people up and robs people and rapes. 0.95

01:06:36.000 That's toxic. 0.98

01:06:37.000 That's criminal behavior.

01:06:38.000 Okay?

01:06:39.000 Masculine behavior is not, it's protective.

01:06:42.000 Masculine behavior is a guy who gets things done, provides for his family, takes care of people.

01:06:47.000 You can call him at two o'clock in the morning because you need a favor.

01:06:50.000 You're stuck on the side of the road.

01:06:51.000 Like, yep. 1.00

01:06:52.000 All that shit is important. 1.00

01:06:54.000 Strong people are good. 1.00

01:06:55.000 It's good to have strong people.

01:06:57.000 Like, and this idea that somehow or another strength is bad for society is like really crazy.

01:07:02.000 It's like, no, it's the strength needs to be channeled correctly.

01:07:05.000 And that's why I think we have to encourage more people to exercise.

01:07:09.000 And I would say for men, You should at least try martial arts.

01:07:13.000 100%.

01:07:14.000 It's so good for your brain.

01:07:15.000 It's so good for your confidence.

01:07:17.000 It's so good for your humility.

01:07:19.000 Humility.

01:07:19.000 And also your understanding of your vulnerability.

01:07:23.000 So many people are fucking delusional. 0.99

01:07:25.000 I've seen so many drunk people that don't know how to fight start fights. 1.00

01:07:29.000 And you're like, do you want to die?

01:07:31.000 Are you trying to die? 1.00

01:07:32.000 Because you're going to run into some fucking guy who knows how to fight and he's going to hit you in the face and you're going to bounce your head off the fucking concrete and you're going to die. 1.00

01:07:41.000 So stop. 1.00

01:07:42.000 Stop doing this.

01:07:43.000 But that delusional comes from not being around violence all the time.

01:07:48.000 Tested.

01:07:48.000 Yeah.

01:07:49.000 Sharpened.

01:07:50.000 Yeah.

01:07:51.000 Having experience, knowing what it actually is.

01:07:54.000 And it's dangerous.

01:07:56.000 And you should do some dangerous things in your life.

01:07:58.000 It's probably good for you.

01:08:00.000 It's good to experience a little bit of fear, it's good to be nervous.

01:08:03.000 It's like you got to grow.

01:08:05.000 And we are in a society where people just want relaxation, they want comfort, they want entertainment.

01:08:12.000 And they just want to be sedentary. 0.99

01:08:14.000 And that is fucking terrible for our mental health. 1.00

01:08:17.000 Coincidentally, we're in a mental health crisis where a giant percentage of people who act that way, who are sedentary and overweight and not taking care of themselves, are mentally ill. 0.99

01:08:27.000 You said something that was interesting the being scared, being really scared and pushing through that thing, whatever it is.

01:08:33.000 Yeah.

01:08:33.000 For me, when I, you know, it's been martial arts, but it's also been surfing.

01:08:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:38.000 And, you know, being scared for your life on big days and going through that and getting to the other side, you've never been calmer.

01:08:45.000 You've never been more zen with nature and clear in your mind about and happy because you've accomplished something.

01:08:54.000 You pushed your boundaries.

01:08:55.000 You kept pushing them and pushing them and pushing them.

01:08:58.000 How old were you when you started surfing?

01:09:00.000 I was young.

01:09:03.000 Oh, wow.

01:09:03.000 Eight, ten.

01:09:04.000 Yeah.

01:09:04.000 I mean, you know, where it was like, and, you know, at first it's, you know, these waves scare you.

01:09:10.000 And then it's, you know, bigger than the room scare you.

01:09:13.000 And you go through these, and it kind of could be, you feel like life and death experience if you.

01:09:19.000 You know, if you push, if you're pushing yourself, have you ever had a shark situation?

01:09:23.000 I've seen sharks, but never in a way that's been like, oh my God.

01:09:29.000 Bro, if I saw a shark, that would be, oh my God. 1.00

01:09:32.000 I'm on a styrofoam fucking. 1.00

01:09:35.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:09:36.000 Well, there's a difference between, you know, seeing a shark further away or seeing a shark on a boat or seeing a shark you know isn't going to hurt you.

01:09:47.000 What are you talking about?

01:09:48.000 You have a conversation with the shark?

01:09:50.000 Bro, we're cool, right?

01:09:51.000 No, but look, you spend as much time in the water as a surfer has done their whole life.

01:10:00.000 You kind of understand what sharks are going to hurt you.

01:10:03.000 What's going on here, Jamie?

01:10:04.000 Great white stalking on powder borders last week.

01:10:07.000 Oh, great.

01:10:09.000 Oh, good lord.

01:10:10.000 Do they even know it's happening?

01:10:11.000 It does not appear that way.

01:10:13.000 Oh, my God.

01:10:13.000 How do they not see that fin?

01:10:15.000 Not looking behind them.

01:10:17.000 Oh, my God.

01:10:17.000 They didn't even see it.

01:10:19.000 Are you sure this is an AI?

01:10:20.000 Oh, it's ABC News?

01:10:21.000 Yeah, it's.

01:10:21.000 Going around the.

01:10:23.000 But I don't actually think there's any more sharks.

01:10:23.000 Wow.

01:10:25.000 I think there's just more cameras.

01:10:28.000 You know, there's just more people with drones and cameras seeing them.

01:10:32.000 Well, there has been heightened shark activity in some places where people are, for sure.

01:10:37.000 I think, particularly in Northern California.

01:10:40.000 I think in Northern.

01:10:41.000 Australia, too.

01:10:42.000 Yeah, well, Australia has a lot of them, man.

01:10:45.000 They seem to be angry over there, too.

01:10:48.000 Their sharks are angry.

01:10:49.000 Everything's angry.

01:10:52.000 Their crocodiles are angry. 1.00

01:10:53.000 They fuck people up. 0.99

01:10:55.000 I was reading about this guy who was the first guy to die in an alligator attack in Texas since 1830 something. 0.98

01:11:06.000 And the story is now, I don't know if this is true, Jamie.

01:11:09.000 Pull this up.

01:11:10.000 See if it's true.

01:11:11.000 The guy's name, supposedly, rest in peace, Tommy.

01:11:15.000 Tommy Woodward.

01:11:16.000 He was drinking with some friends in a marina in Orange, Texas when he decided to swim in Adams Bayou.

01:11:22.000 People warned him about a massive alligator that had been seen in the water. 1.00

01:11:26.000 His friend pointed out near the dock, and his response was, fuck that gator. 0.99

01:11:32.000 That was the last thing he said. 1.00

01:11:34.000 And then the gator killed him.

01:11:36.000 He was the first guy killed from an alligator in Texas since.

01:11:40.000 1836.

01:11:42.000 Yeah, you don't swim in the bayou.

01:11:43.000 If there's a bayou. 0.99

01:11:44.000 But that is one of the most Texas fucking things that anybody's ever said. 1.00

01:11:47.000 Fuck that gator. 1.00

01:11:48.000 Fuck that gator. 1.00

01:11:49.000 Right before he died. 1.00

01:11:51.000 He's probably drunk as fuck. 1.00

01:11:52.000 Not respecting nature. 1.00

01:11:54.000 Drunk as fuck. 1.00

01:11:55.000 He jumped in a water. 1.00

01:11:57.000 Fuck that gator is a wild thing to say before the gator eats you. 1.00

01:12:01.000 And that's, you know, humility. 1.00

01:12:02.000 You got to have a little humility, Tommy. 1.00

01:12:05.000 Tommy, don't say fuck that gator. 1.00

01:12:07.000 Here it is. 1.00

01:12:07.000 Man mocks alligator, jumps in water, and is killed. 1.00

01:12:11.000 Oh, this is recent.

01:12:12.000 No, no, this is 2015.

01:12:14.000 2015.

01:12:15.000 What does it say?

01:12:15.000 So, what is the story?

01:12:18.000 Does it say he said, fuck that gator in this article? 1.00

01:12:21.000 He said, fuck that gator. 1.00

01:12:23.000 So, there's a sign that's posted. 1.00

01:12:24.000 It says, no swimming, alligators.

01:12:27.000 And he went to the store.

01:12:28.000 Oh, yeah, it said he removed his shirt, removed his billfold.

01:12:31.000 Someone shouted a warning, and he said, blank that gator, blank the alligators. 1.00

01:12:36.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:12:37.000 He said, fuck. 1.00

01:12:38.000 Luckily, they say blank. 1.00

01:12:39.000 Why didn't they just write F dash dash dash?

01:12:42.000 Jumped in the water and almost immediately yelled for help.

01:12:45.000 That could have been what the guy actually quoted, even though he.

01:12:48.000 You know, he wasn't quoting him.

01:12:49.000 Maybe he doesn't feel like saying the F word to them.

01:12:51.000 Right, right, right, right.

01:12:53.000 Yeah.

01:12:56.000 Immediately yelling for help is crazy.

01:13:00.000 No bueno.

01:13:01.000 Yeah.

01:13:02.000 I was in Florida a couple years back.

01:13:04.000 We went alligator hunting, and they're everywhere.

01:13:09.000 Like, it's kind of disconcerting.

01:13:10.000 We were in the Everglades, like, there's a ranch where you can go hunt alligators.

01:13:15.000 It is, they're everywhere.

01:13:18.000 It's not hard to find them. 0.99

01:13:19.000 They're fucking all over the place. 0.98

01:13:21.000 Like, it's how many of them are there that you don't see is the real question. 0.99

01:13:25.000 It's a weird feeling because I thought, like, it would be like hunting elk.

01:13:28.000 Like, you got to go find them.

01:13:30.000 Like, we'll be glassing for them.

01:13:31.000 Where's the elk?

01:13:32.000 Go over the next ridge.

01:13:34.000 Do you hear anything?

01:13:34.000 Somebody make a call.

01:13:36.000 Do you hear that out there?

01:13:36.000 Yeah.

01:13:37.000 No, There's one.

01:13:39.000 Oh, there's one.

01:13:40.000 Oh, there's one.

01:13:41.000 Or here's a dead one.

01:13:41.000 Oh, here's one.

01:13:43.000 Here's one another alligator killed. 1.00

01:13:45.000 They're fucking. 1.00

01:13:45.000 Look at this. 1.00

01:13:46.000 No, thanks.

01:13:47.000 Where is this?

01:13:47.000 Dinosaurs.

01:13:48.000 This is a guy's tent?

01:13:49.000 Yeah.

01:13:50.000 Bro, run. 0.98

01:13:50.000 Oh, God. 0.98

01:13:52.000 Yeah, get that video off.

01:13:53.000 What is wrong with you?

01:13:54.000 Oh, I've seen this.

01:13:54.000 Isn't this in like Brazil?

01:13:56.000 I think this is in Brazil.

01:13:56.000 I think so, yeah.

01:13:58.000 I think this guy.

01:13:58.000 Look at all the eyes.

01:13:59.000 Oh, fuck all that. 1.00

01:14:01.000 Look at all the eyes. 1.00

01:14:03.000 Oh, I didn't even see that.

01:14:04.000 Yeah, that was what I was trying to get back.

01:14:06.000 Oh, my God.

01:14:08.000 One, two, three, four, five.

01:14:08.000 That's terrifying.

01:14:10.000 So they must all come out of the water at night, and this dude put his tent there.

01:14:13.000 14, 15.

01:14:15.000 Plus the five on the shore.

01:14:16.000 Oh, my God, dude.

01:14:18.000 That is insane.

01:14:19.000 That's insane.

01:14:20.000 And you know they're all hungry.

01:14:21.000 If there's that many of them, how many deer can they eat?

01:14:25.000 They're not small at all, dude.

01:14:27.000 They all could eat you. 1.00

01:14:29.000 Fuck all that. 1.00

01:14:30.000 But the weird feeling about Florida being there was just the sheer numbers of them. 0.99

01:14:35.000 And then knowing how many pythons there are, and I didn't see any pythons, but I go, do you guys see pythons?

01:14:40.000 I go, bro.

01:14:41.000 Like occasionally you'll be just driving, you'll see something making its way across the road and it's 15 feet long.

01:14:48.000 No.

01:14:48.000 No gracias.

01:14:49.000 Thick like a fucking football player's thigh. 1.00

01:14:52.000 I don't mess with that. 1.00

01:14:53.000 See, I don't.

01:14:54.000 I would way rather be in the water with sharks.

01:14:57.000 Because at least you can open it, you can see the shark.

01:15:00.000 But you can climb a tree if you're out in the woods.

01:15:03.000 Yeah, but in the bayou, I don't know, man.

01:15:05.000 It's a swamp.

01:15:07.000 It's.

01:15:08.000 Yeah, don't go in the water, water there.

01:15:10.000 Yeah.

01:15:10.000 But outside of the water, I would way rather be on ground.

01:15:13.000 Well, I mean, if you're, like, if you have, you know, distance.

01:15:16.000 You have a gun.

01:15:17.000 You have a lot of things. 1.00

01:15:18.000 When you're in the water with a shark, you're fucked, man. 1.00

01:15:20.000 You can barely move. 0.99

01:15:21.000 Well, you can actually, if you, if you, they're really deterrent by, if you touch their nose.

01:15:26.000 So if they're coming at you and you poke them, hit their nose, they're usually going to turn.

01:15:31.000 For real?

01:15:32.000 Yeah.

01:15:32.000 Have you done this?

01:15:33.000 I'm not crazy.

01:15:33.000 No.

01:15:34.000 I'm not sure.

01:15:36.000 So when they come after you, don't flip your legs and scream and flop.

01:15:39.000 No.

01:15:39.000 Keep them in front of you.

01:15:40.000 Keep them in front of you.

01:15:41.000 Yeah.

01:15:42.000 Bop them. 1.00

01:15:42.000 Bop them on the nose. 1.00

01:15:43.000 I've heard that before. 0.99

01:15:44.000 I've heard punch them.

01:15:45.000 I'm like, what are you talking about?

01:15:47.000 Yeah, here it says bop the nose.

01:15:49.000 Punching a shark in the face saved this Hawaiian surfer.

01:15:54.000 I mean, it's not good either way.

01:15:55.000 You don't want to be in the water with an angry shark.

01:15:57.000 Well, in Florida, they don't have as many shark problems, but they do have bull sharks.

01:16:03.000 And I was watching this video.

01:16:04.000 There's these guys that go fishing.

01:16:06.000 I guess it's the Keys, and they go off of this giant bridge, and it's like real far to the water.

01:16:12.000 So they have to have this, like, Gaff system where they drop a line down and they gaff the fish and then have to pull it up.

01:16:17.000 They're catching these tunas and they never get them to the bridge.

01:16:21.000 They're just getting destroyed by sharks.

01:16:23.000 There's sharks all over the place down there.

01:16:25.000 Yeah, bull sharks are real dangerous because they'll keep attacking, whereas a lot of sharks bite out of misconfusion, right?

01:16:33.000 They sort of think you're a seal or something.

01:16:34.000 Yeah, they didn't know.

01:16:35.000 And then they bite and they're like, ah, okay.

01:16:37.000 Bull sharks, they'll just keep coming.

01:16:40.000 They're like little chihuahuas. 0.95

01:16:42.000 Yeah.

01:16:42.000 Like pit bulls.

01:16:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:16:44.000 Yeah, fuck those things. 1.00

01:16:45.000 They catch them a lot now. 1.00

01:16:47.000 What is going on with this guy?

01:16:49.000 Bull sharks eating the tuna?

01:16:51.000 Oh, really?

01:16:52.000 I thought this was the video, but there's actually no views on that, so maybe not.

01:16:56.000 Well, this guy's actually in the water.

01:16:58.000 The guys that I've seen.

01:16:59.000 Is this in the Keys as well?

01:17:00.000 I said big sharks circling.

01:17:02.000 I thought it was going to be a little more exciting than this.

01:17:04.000 Oh, man.

01:17:05.000 Imagine you're pulling a fish in and you see a shark.

01:17:08.000 You're like, you just take it.

01:17:09.000 Take the fish.

01:17:10.000 Jesus Christ.

01:17:11.000 But a lot of guys, they pulled them in, they're cut in half.

01:17:14.000 Oh, yeah.

01:17:15.000 So you can, they bullshark fish down there now.

01:17:17.000 You can catch bull sharks every day.

01:17:19.000 They're trying to reduce the population because apparently it's a very high population.

01:17:23.000 You know, bull sharks are the reason why Jaws was made?

01:17:25.000 Do you know the original story behind Jaws?

01:17:28.000 No, I didn't know that.

01:17:28.000 The inspiration was actually bullshark attacks in freshwater on a river in New Jersey.

01:17:36.000 So bull sharks are one of the weird sharks that can live in freshwater.

01:17:39.000 And salt, right?

01:17:41.000 Is this the thing?

01:17:42.000 Yeah, 1916.

01:17:43.000 Yeah.

01:17:44.000 So this is the.

01:17:45.000 They caught that bull shark and they killed, I think, two people, right?

01:17:53.000 A series of shark attacks.

01:17:54.000 Four people were killed and one critically injured.

01:17:57.000 Incidents occurred during a deadly summer heat wave and polio epidemic in the United States that drove thousands of people to seaside resorts in the Jersey Shore.

01:18:06.000 So they think it's a bull shark.

01:18:08.000 It says there's been a debate, but it's in fresh water.

01:18:11.000 It's not going to be a 40th anniversary Jaws screening in that bay, and people sat in the water to watch the movie.

01:18:19.000 Also, natural selection.

01:18:22.000 But they've found bull sharks as far north as Illinois.

01:18:27.000 Oh, yeah, up the river system.

01:18:28.000 Yeah, they make their way up the river.

01:18:30.000 That's scary.

01:18:31.000 That's crazy.

01:18:32.000 It's the most aggressive shark, and they found him in fresh water.

01:18:36.000 I think that dude that used to have that show, River Monsters, you remember that guy?

01:18:40.000 Oh, yeah, I remember the show.

01:18:41.000 Yeah, the guy who just caught fish all the time, like the craziest. 1.00

01:18:45.000 A redneck? 0.99

01:18:46.000 No, he wasn't a redneck.

01:18:47.000 He was actually like an educated guy with a foreign accent. 0.99

01:18:51.000 River Monsters. 1.00

01:18:51.000 Where was he from? 1.00

01:18:52.000 Yeah.

01:18:53.000 I mean, I remember the show.

01:18:54.000 I don't know if I ever watched it.

01:18:55.000 I just remember seeing it.

01:18:57.000 What's it?

01:18:58.000 Manny from the River Monsters guy.

01:19:02.000 The guy with the gray hair.

01:19:04.000 He was a fisherman. 0.99

01:19:04.000 Oh. 0.99

01:19:05.000 Jeremy Wade's his name.

01:19:06.000 That's his name.

01:19:07.000 Yeah.

01:19:07.000 Where's he from?

01:19:08.000 He's not from America, right?

01:19:10.000 British biologist.

01:19:11.000 Yeah.

01:19:11.000 There you go.

01:19:12.000 British biologist.

01:19:13.000 I think he did an episode on the bull sharks.

01:19:16.000 I think there was one of those where they were trying to catch them in fresh water.

01:19:19.000 They realized, like, these things, they go way up the rivers.

01:19:22.000 Yeah.

01:19:23.000 Way.

01:19:23.000 And they can live in fresh water, unlike all the regular sharks.

01:19:26.000 I think.

01:19:26.000 Yeah.

01:19:27.000 Yeah.

01:19:28.000 Maybe some of them can.

01:19:29.000 But I think most of them have to be in salt water, like great whites and stuff like that.

01:19:32.000 They have to be salt.

01:19:33.000 I mean, they've tagged great whites and they'll go around the world. 0.94

01:19:33.000 But they do. 0.94

01:19:36.000 I mean, you think they would have.

01:19:38.000 They thought historically that they stayed in certain temperatures of waters and certain migrating patterns, but they've found them all over.

01:19:46.000 Yeah.

01:19:46.000 My daughter got really into megalodons at one point in time, so we really started researching megalodons.

01:19:51.000 She got a bunch of hunting.

01:19:53.000 No, not really.

01:19:54.000 You know what I mean?

01:19:56.000 Were they trying to find the best one online?

01:19:58.000 But you'd start watching documentaries on megalodons, and then there's the people that think that megalodons might still be out there.

01:20:05.000 And you're like, okay, probably not.

01:20:07.000 But either way, the fact that that thing actually exists.

01:20:10.000 Get a shark the size of a whale. 0.95

01:20:13.000 He's out there fucking everything up. 0.98

01:20:15.000 Like, you wouldn't be surfing if there were megalodons, would you? 0.97

01:20:15.000 Yep. 0.97

01:20:20.000 I probably still would.

01:20:21.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:20:22.000 I mean, it's not a bad way to die, I guess.

01:20:27.000 Swallow you whole, son. 0.98

01:20:29.000 You'll suffocate and get digested. 0.99

01:20:32.000 You're out there doing something you love.

01:20:33.000 Yeah.

01:20:34.000 That's a good story.

01:20:35.000 I guess for other people.

01:20:37.000 I mean, it would be pretty quick.

01:20:39.000 You know, what's worse?

01:20:40.000 What's worse?

01:20:41.000 You live.

01:20:42.000 This crazy long life, and you're in bed for the last five to seven years of your life, and you're hurting and you're like dealing with cancer or this, that, or just bam, get hit by a shark.

01:20:53.000 I don't know.

01:20:54.000 I think kind of.

01:20:55.000 Yeah.

01:20:56.000 I could see it, I guess, but still, the instinct to stay alive is so strong.

01:21:02.000 Yeah.

01:21:02.000 When I'm 100 years old and in my bed, I'm like, baby, they're going to have a new drug that's going to bring me back to life.

01:21:08.000 Yeah.

01:21:09.000 They probably will be able to do that too, which is going to get real weird. 0.96

01:21:12.000 If they really can take old people, like I was watching this video where they were talking about human skin cells, at least in a lab, they've been able to take human skin cells and take like 60 year old skin cells and make them 20 again. 0.98

01:21:26.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:21:27.000 That's going to be really weird.

01:21:29.000 Well, I just don't.

01:21:30.000 Here's the thing I'm all about living the best version of your life, being as healthy as you can.

01:21:38.000 Maybe not for like whatever you get, like being optimal.

01:21:42.000 But isn't kind of the most beautiful thing about life is that it is finite?

01:21:47.000 And that it's like people are like, I'm going to live forever.

01:21:47.000 Yeah.

01:21:49.000 It's like, I don't know if I want to live forever.

01:21:52.000 Yeah.

01:21:53.000 No, there's something to that, man.

01:21:54.000 Have you seen this trailer for this movie called White Whale Fall?

01:21:58.000 Actually, Josh Brolin happens to be in it.

01:21:59.000 Mentioned him earlier.

01:22:00.000 What happens?

01:22:01.000 This guy gets eaten by a whale.

01:22:03.000 No way.

01:22:04.000 It's in the trailer, so it's not a spoiler.

01:22:06.000 And it's about him surviving.

01:22:08.000 Is it real?

01:22:09.000 I don't believe so.

01:22:09.000 Falling through that thing's mouth.

01:22:11.000 The guys are stuck in the whale's mouth.

01:22:13.000 No, the whale eats him while he's scuba diving.

01:22:13.000 Oh.

01:22:15.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:22:16.000 And then the rest of the movie is about.

01:22:18.000 Getting out, I guess.

01:22:18.000 Getting out?

01:22:20.000 Well, how long does he stay inside the whale's body?

01:22:22.000 Real complex plot.

01:22:23.000 85 to 95 minutes, I bet.

01:22:24.000 He's 85 to 95 minutes inside with his scuba tank inside the whale's body.

01:22:29.000 This is bananas, dude.

01:22:30.000 I'm just joking.

01:22:31.000 Oh, my God.

01:22:31.000 And it just keeps swallowing it?

01:22:33.000 Yeah, I mean, that's what the movie's about. 0.99

01:22:34.000 Oh, God damn it. 0.99

01:22:36.000 Is that real? 0.99

01:22:37.000 Is that a new movie?

01:22:37.000 This is the real movie.

01:22:38.000 Oh, my God.

01:22:40.000 I saw the trailer recently and I was just making me think of it. 0.99

01:22:43.000 It might be awesome or the dumbest movie that's ever been made. 0.98

01:22:45.000 I can't decide. 0.99

01:22:47.000 Yeah, I don't know how to do it.

01:22:48.000 What do you do if you have a knife?

01:22:49.000 Do you try to carve your way out?

01:22:50.000 Of the whale?

01:22:51.000 Yeah.

01:22:52.000 What else do you do?

01:22:52.000 You have to have a knife, yeah.

01:22:54.000 But how much time would it take you to carve your way out of a whale?

01:22:56.000 Forever.

01:22:58.000 You're going to run out of air.

01:22:59.000 If you have the scuba tank and you have a knife, do you really think you can get through a whale and.

01:23:04.000 Oh, how much?

01:23:04.000 That blubber's.

01:23:05.000 Oh, it'll take to cut a fish. 1.00

01:23:06.000 But it's not a fish. 1.00

01:23:08.000 It's a fucking bus. 1.00

01:23:10.000 It's huge. 1.00

01:23:11.000 You're very motivated.

01:23:12.000 That's true.

01:23:13.000 That's true.

01:23:14.000 But you've got to get through rib cages.

01:23:15.000 I don't know if that's a thick enough plot to have a whole movie.

01:23:21.000 If they came to you with the script, Scott, this is the big one.

01:23:24.000 We're green light now.

01:23:26.000 This is our jaws.

01:23:26.000 This is it.

01:23:28.000 Oh, God.

01:23:29.000 The business sometimes just.

01:23:31.000 Oh, it's so bad.

01:23:32.000 How long would it take you to carve your way out of a whale?

01:23:35.000 Well, he's a foot sperm whale and he's got less than an hour of oxygen.

01:23:38.000 Oh, that's enough time.

01:23:41.000 I don't think that's enough time.

01:23:43.000 You don't got to crawl through 80 feet.

01:23:45.000 I think if you kept cutting it up, it might throw up.

01:23:48.000 If you kept cutting the inside of his tongue, just kept slashing it, all that, he might just throw you up.

01:23:55.000 Yeah, he might recognize there's something wrong. 0.65

01:23:57.000 Like you would.

01:23:58.000 Like if something was, if you put something in your mouth that started biting your tongue, you'd be like, ah, ah.

01:24:03.000 You'd try to get rid of it.

01:24:04.000 I would imagine the whale would do that too. 0.99

01:24:05.000 I'd just start fucking up his tongue. 0.99

01:24:07.000 There you go. 1.00

01:24:08.000 Also, to keep you from getting digested, just stab them and just pull yourself forward and just stab them again. 1.00

01:24:14.000 You have an exit plan. 1.00

01:24:15.000 You've got a plan.

01:24:16.000 You're not going to cut your way out.

01:24:18.000 I just think there's too much bone.

01:24:20.000 I don't think you're going to make it through that bone unless you go through.

01:24:24.000 I don't even know where you would go.

01:24:26.000 Like the neck.

01:24:27.000 I could figure out how to get through on an elk.

01:24:29.000 I would go that way, I would go where the holes are.

01:24:32.000 There's holes back here where the guts are, and there's holes up here. 0.91

01:24:37.000 You know, like where you'd shoot him if you're shooting a frontal.

01:24:40.000 They're not going to cast you in this movie.

01:24:41.000 They're like, though, he's getting out too quick.

01:24:43.000 I don't think I'm getting out quick.

01:24:45.000 I think I'm dying of no air.

01:24:46.000 I don't think I'm going to make it.

01:24:47.000 Let's look at the anatomy of a sperm whale here.

01:24:49.000 You're going to be somewhere down here.

01:24:51.000 See, I want to get out through the neck.

01:24:53.000 See, right there?

01:24:54.000 That's where I want to get out.

01:24:55.000 But all that stuff.

01:24:57.000 Yeah, but you're not.

01:24:58.000 It's going to take too long for you to get through all those.

01:25:01.000 No, you go right to the sphincter and just like, you know, open the little bit more.

01:25:05.000 Yeah, just convince him to digest quickly.

01:25:08.000 No, there's too much traveling.

01:25:10.000 Okay.

01:25:11.000 You're going to want to go through where you came in.

01:25:13.000 You don't want to go through the intestines upright.

01:25:15.000 No.

01:25:15.000 And also, you're dealing with acids.

01:25:17.000 They're going to burn.

01:25:18.000 And I think you want to cut through the front.

01:25:21.000 So I think as he's swallowing you, you got to dig in and you got to make your way through the bottom of his jaw.

01:25:28.000 You got to start cutting.

01:25:29.000 And maybe you'll get out.

01:25:30.000 But what is greenlit this movie?

01:25:33.000 We need to find out.

01:25:34.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:25:35.000 Some crazy person. 0.77

01:25:36.000 Maybe it's really good. 0.61

01:25:38.000 Josh Brolin's in it.

01:25:39.000 It's probably great.

01:25:39.000 It's probably kills.

01:25:40.000 It's probably great.

01:25:41.000 Pretty popular, well, like New York Times.

01:25:42.000 Best selling novel.

01:25:43.000 Oh my god, sounds like a pretty good story.

01:25:46.000 They made a movie out of it.

01:25:47.000 There was a whale they spotted fairly recently that had a harpoon in it from the 1800s.

01:25:54.000 Oh wow, yeah, that's alive, yeah, it was alive, yeah, and it had this harpoon embedded in it.

01:26:02.000 See if you can find that story. 0.99

01:26:03.000 That's a wild, might be some Instagram horse shit. 0.99

01:26:06.000 Oh, okay, yeah, fairly recently. 0.99

01:26:10.000 I remember they found this whale and they recognized that the harpoon was from the 1800s, yeah, 2007.

01:26:17.000 Native Alaskan whalers near Barrow, Alaska, made a remarkable discovery a 50 foot bowhead whale found with a metal fragment of a late 19th century bomb lance, an explosive harpoon embedded in its neck.

01:26:31.000 The artifact, traced to New Bedford, Massachusetts, the explosive harpoon was patented in 1879 and manufactured in the late 1880s.

01:26:42.000 So the whales age by surviving the initial attack.

01:26:46.000 The whale lived for over a century with the metal tip lodged safely in its neck, thick blubber.

01:26:52.000 The extraordinary survival story helped biologists prove that bowhead whales can live for 100 to over 200 years.

01:26:59.000 Did the whale get shot near Massachusetts or did they travel to Alaska with that device?

01:27:06.000 That's a good question.

01:27:08.000 Well, they were probably whaling in Massachusetts a lot, so they probably made good tech, like East Coast manufacturing, and then they probably shipped it off to Alaska.

01:27:20.000 There's not as many people up there, so they probably didn't have as much.

01:27:24.000 So I'd imagine they ship it to in the 1870s?

01:27:28.000 They ship it to them?

01:27:29.000 Yeah.

01:27:29.000 They would ship things by train.

01:27:31.000 They would ship things by train and boats.

01:27:33.000 Yeah, I mean, they always had that.

01:27:34.000 They always had trade.

01:27:36.000 You could always ship things.

01:27:38.000 Not easy, but if you wanted to get guns, like say if there was a - if the army was in California in the 1800s, they had to get guns and they would get the guns shipped to them.

01:27:49.000 They either carry the guns with them as they made their way across the country or they can get them shipped to them.

01:27:53.000 Yeah, I went to, I shot a movie in Iceland.

01:27:57.000 Oh, God, 20, feels like 20 years.

01:27:58.000 I think it was 20 years ago.

01:28:00.000 What was it?

01:28:02.000 The movie?

01:28:02.000 Yeah.

01:28:03.000 It was called Flags of Our Fathers.

01:28:05.000 And it was also World War II.

01:28:06.000 And, you know, the whaling sort of trade was, it wasn't looked at in the same way I think Americans look at whaling.

01:28:19.000 They're like, oh my God, how dare you?

01:28:21.000 They look at it as normal.

01:28:22.000 Yeah.

01:28:23.000 It was really interesting.

01:28:24.000 They had to stay alive.

01:28:26.000 And it's like, where do you draw the line?

01:28:26.000 Yeah.

01:28:28.000 It's everyone's got this, like, oh, you can't kill this, but I can have my life.

01:28:32.000 Listen, dude, if you live in Iceland, whaling is on the menu.

01:28:36.000 Because you need to stay alive.

01:28:36.000 Yeah.

01:28:37.000 Like, especially way back in the day, there was not a lot of resources in Iceland.

01:28:42.000 Mm hmm.

01:28:43.000 You know? 0.99

01:28:44.000 They have a fermented shark dish in Iceland that it's very popular that Bourdain told me was the single most fucking disgusting thing he's ever eaten. 0.99

01:28:53.000 Really? 0.97

01:28:53.000 And it's a delicacy. 0.97

01:28:54.000 Like, they all love it.

01:28:55.000 See if you can find.

01:28:56.000 This fermented shark thing that they eat.

01:29:01.000 That whale was an interesting question, kind of like what I asked.

01:29:05.000 It was even older.

01:29:06.000 There's another problem that that device would have been used up by 1890, it says, because they were very popular.

01:29:12.000 So I don't know how specifically it would have gotten in that whale.

01:29:16.000 Interesting.

01:29:17.000 It says, what you don't know is if some Yankee whaler had a harpoon made in 1830, traded it to an Inuit, and then the Inuit or his offspring used it 40 years later.

01:29:27.000 But because the bomb lance was patented and stocks were used up quickly, Boxtos and his colleagues identified a narrow window, which they believe the whale was shot, somewhere between 1885 and 1895.

01:29:41.000 Biologists in Alaska will now try to verify the estimate by examining the lens of the whale's eyes.

01:29:47.000 Whoa.

01:29:48.000 Whales generally become cloudy.

01:29:50.000 Their eyes become cloudy as they age.

01:29:52.000 Found only in Arctic waters, the bowhead was in danger of being hunted to extinction at the turn of the century, but bounced back after demand for whale born.

01:30:00.000 Whalebone corsets plummeted. 0.99

01:30:03.000 Holy shit, dude. 0.99

01:30:06.000 That was it? 1.00

01:30:07.000 Whalebone corsets were killing all the. 1.00

01:30:10.000 Imagine the whales.

01:30:11.000 They're like, why are they killing us?

01:30:12.000 Are they eating us? 1.00

01:30:13.000 Like, no, these chicks, they just want to suck their waist in tight. 1.00

01:30:17.000 Guys think that's hard. 1.00

01:30:18.000 No, no, they can't be serious, right?

01:30:18.000 What?

01:30:20.000 That's what they made them out of?

01:30:22.000 Oh, wow.

01:30:23.000 So it had like spines from the whale bones.

01:30:28.000 What?

01:30:29.000 So that's what it looked like?

01:30:30.000 Like a core?

01:30:31.000 They turned it into almost like a strap?

01:30:34.000 Whale bone.

01:30:35.000 That's whale bone?

01:30:37.000 That's a strange.

01:30:39.000 What?

01:30:40.000 Imagine having to figure that out.

01:30:42.000 Why wouldn't they just use wood?

01:30:43.000 Steel boning versus synthetic whale bone.

01:30:45.000 They probably ate the whales and then they were like, oh, look, this excess bone we can use.

01:30:50.000 Yeah, I guess they probably just had the bone and realized it was kind of flexible.

01:30:53.000 Oh, no, this says whale bones weren't even made from bone at all.

01:30:56.000 I went to my buddy's cattle processing plant in California and they use everything.

01:31:04.000 Really?

01:31:05.000 I mean, everything.

01:31:07.000 They use the part of the heart, I believe.

01:31:14.000 Oh, it's an organ.

01:31:15.000 They use it in medical operations.

01:31:15.000 I can't remember.

01:31:18.000 They pull it out and then they send it on ice.

01:31:22.000 They use it for some patching of the heart thing.

01:31:25.000 I mean, down to everything hooves, everything.

01:31:28.000 Wow.

01:31:29.000 And it's actually fascinating to see.

01:31:32.000 And you're like, oh, this is super efficient.

01:31:34.000 This uses it for a lot of different applications for hide, for all kinds of stuff.

01:31:39.000 Which makes sense because it's all valuable.

01:31:41.000 Why would you not use it all?

01:31:42.000 And it makes people feel better if you know that the whale is being completely harvested.

01:31:46.000 Completely.

01:31:47.000 Everything.

01:31:48.000 Is used.

01:31:49.000 That's awesome.

01:31:49.000 Yep.

01:31:50.000 Yeah.

01:31:51.000 I mean, if you have a connection, that's really the best way to get food.

01:31:55.000 If you have a connection with a really good ranch and they're real ethical and it's all grass fed meat and the animals are raised on a pasture like they're supposed to be.

01:32:03.000 Even the way they slaughtered them at this place was super, it was really gentle.

01:32:07.000 And that was their whole thing.

01:32:08.000 It's like, we're taking a soul, but this is part of life, right?

01:32:13.000 Life eats life.

01:32:14.000 And the way they did it was really painless.

01:32:17.000 And it was just boom, boom.

01:32:18.000 And then it was super. 0.77

01:32:19.000 Was it No Country for Old Men style? 0.94

01:32:21.000 Put up, oh, the air bullet thing, the bullet to the head. 0.98

01:32:25.000 It goes into the.

01:32:26.000 Apparently, that just shuts the lights off.

01:32:27.000 Shuts the lights off quick, and then they bleed him out. 1.00

01:32:30.000 How badass was that motherfucker in that movie? 1.00

01:32:32.000 Javier. 1.00

01:32:33.000 Oh, my God.

01:32:33.000 Javier was so good in that movie.

01:32:37.000 It might be one of the single best performances I've ever seen in a movie.

01:32:40.000 Yeah.

01:32:41.000 Because you believed him.

01:32:43.000 You believed him.

01:32:43.000 Yeah.

01:32:45.000 When he's making that dude flip that quarter, oof.

01:32:48.000 You know?

01:32:48.000 He's, I mean, he gives you the chills.

01:32:50.000 Oh, yeah.

01:32:51.000 That hair, that weird haircut.

01:32:53.000 Yeah, weird haircut.

01:32:54.000 Oh.

01:32:55.000 But it's just. 0.84

01:32:56.000 The commitment to being a psycho.

01:32:58.000 Like, that dude's got some darkness in his eyes. 0.88

01:33:01.000 Yeah.

01:33:02.000 Look at that weird haircut. 1.00

01:33:05.000 Crazy haircut.

01:33:07.000 God, he just. 1.00

01:33:08.000 Javier is a bad motherfucker, dude. 1.00

01:33:11.000 There's something about his bad guys that are like this Cape Fear role that he's in now. 1.00

01:33:16.000 I haven't seen it yet. 0.98

01:33:17.000 I haven't seen it either, but the fucking trailer made me uncomfortable. 0.98

01:33:20.000 Just seeing him in the trailer. 0.99

01:33:21.000 Yeah, he's a good creep. 0.64

01:33:23.000 He plays a real good psycho. 0.60

01:33:25.000 Yeah.

01:33:26.000 You know, there's some dudes where you're like, I believe it.

01:33:29.000 And some guys, you're like, come on, man, you're a nice guy.

01:33:35.000 Also, the original Cape Fear.

01:33:36.000 I mean, Robert De Niro and the original Cape Fear, man.

01:33:38.000 You've played bad guys.

01:33:40.000 Do you have a problem playing bad guys?

01:33:42.000 Is it hard for you to get into it?

01:33:44.000 Like, what is more challenging for you?

01:33:46.000 Like, to play a bad guy or to play, like, the World War II thing?

01:33:50.000 You've got to play someone from a different era, which I would imagine has its own challenges.

01:33:54.000 But is it hard for you?

01:33:55.000 Because you're so nice.

01:33:56.000 Like, do you have a hard time when you play bad guys?

01:33:59.000 Well, I got to do it for Guy Ritchie, which was like, you know, the ultimate, right?

01:34:03.000 Yeah.

01:34:03.000 He rules.

01:34:04.000 Yeah.

01:34:05.000 And Wrath of Man.

01:34:06.000 And it was actually kind of liberating, kind of fun.

01:34:09.000 You could sort of do things you're not supposed to.

01:34:14.000 You know, you could like act out on your impulses a little bit. 0.88

01:34:18.000 You know, you think of something fucked up in your head and you're like, why did I think that? 0.99

01:34:21.000 I'm not going to punch that person in the face. 0.98

01:34:24.000 Why did I think that?

01:34:25.000 You kind of like, you know, to a lesser extent, you obviously aren't doing everything, but you could kind of like revel in your own like messed up thinking.

01:34:37.000 But I don't love doing it, to be honest.

01:34:40.000 I think.

01:34:43.000 I want to do it very selectively.

01:34:44.000 Like, I mean, for Guy Rich, I'll do anything, right?

01:34:46.000 He's, I think he's one of the best, best, best.

01:34:49.000 Ever.

01:34:49.000 Look at you.

01:34:50.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:34:51.000 And so, you know, I was, I had to kill a kid there. 0.89

01:34:54.000 I had to just do the dirty work and get it done. 0.99

01:34:56.000 You even look evil there.

01:34:57.000 Like something's different.

01:34:59.000 Yeah.

01:34:59.000 Look at your face.

01:35:00.000 Doesn't even look like you. 1.00

01:35:03.000 You look evil. 0.98

01:35:04.000 You look like genuinely evil. 0.98

01:35:05.000 Yeah.

01:35:06.000 Yeah.

01:35:06.000 I was loose.

01:35:07.000 I was tying up loose ends there.

01:35:08.000 Is it, when you're doing that, when you're playing an evil guy, are you thinking evil?

01:35:13.000 A little.

01:35:14.000 I'm, look, I mean, At the end of the day, it's a job.

01:35:17.000 I treat it as a job.

01:35:19.000 I'm not one of these crazy psychos that let things become distorted in your mind.

01:35:25.000 Will you pretend you're Abraham Lincoln for six months?

01:35:28.000 I mean, I believe him.

01:35:28.000 I mean, yeah.

01:35:30.000 Daniel Day, like, I believe him.

01:35:31.000 I believe him, too.

01:35:32.000 So I don't know.

01:35:33.000 Maybe, you know, maybe I, you know, if you want to be the best, I think it comes with a price.

01:35:38.000 And that price is sanity.

01:35:40.000 A little bit of sanity.

01:35:40.000 Yeah.

01:35:41.000 You got to give it up.

01:35:43.000 My dad was never like that.

01:35:44.000 He was like, It's a job. 0.98

01:35:46.000 Like, go to work, do the best you can, put in the reps, make sure you know your shit and you come prepared and you have something interesting. 0.99

01:35:54.000 But leave it at the door, man. 0.99

01:35:55.000 Yeah.

01:35:56.000 You know, you see people like their minds get twisted, and we deal with artists, right?

01:36:01.000 Artists are, they can be special sometimes.

01:36:05.000 Yeah, and they take themselves very seriously.

01:36:07.000 Yeah.

01:36:08.000 But there's also a certain amount of you have to be thinking about how that character would think, right?

01:36:15.000 If you're really going to pull it off.

01:36:16.000 And you really did pull it off.

01:36:18.000 So you had to be having some evil thoughts.

01:36:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:36:21.000 I would love to talk to you.

01:36:21.000 You have some.

01:36:22.000 I was like, it was a greedy role.

01:36:25.000 Yeah.

01:36:25.000 And I was like, I kind of let the greed take over, which is a little scary.

01:36:31.000 So do you have to think like a greedy guy before the.

01:36:34.000 Like when you're getting ready for a scene, like how do you get your head in that space?

01:36:39.000 Yeah, a lot of manifesting sort of those thoughts and emotions. 0.97

01:36:44.000 Like what I fucking do? 0.99

01:36:45.000 I'm going to fucking take whatever the fuck I want right now. 0.99

01:36:47.000 You know, so you sort of, you know, you. 0.99

01:36:51.000 You play that, but then you got to let it go.

01:36:54.000 Like, end of the day, man, you got to let it go.

01:36:56.000 Right.

01:36:57.000 You got to be like, all right, cool.

01:36:58.000 That was that thing.

01:37:00.000 And then it's got to be slippery, right?

01:37:02.000 I think it can be if you don't have, if you value this career too preciously and you don't realize, hey, we're telling stories.

01:37:15.000 I'm so grateful I've gotten to do it.

01:37:15.000 It's fun.

01:37:18.000 But it doesn't define me.

01:37:20.000 It might have made me, but it's not going to break me.

01:37:24.000 I have other interests and other things, and I know there's other important shit out there that I could do in this life. 0.86

01:37:24.000 Right. 0.86

01:37:30.000 I think you have to have that level of thinking because if you think this is everything, I mean, it's too extreme.

01:37:38.000 It's like extreme what we were talking about before.

01:37:41.000 It can get too.

01:37:43.000 It's not healthy.

01:37:44.000 Well, a lot of people have problems after roles are done.

01:37:48.000 Like, apparently, Jim Carrey really struggled after he played Andy Kaufman.

01:37:53.000 Yeah.

01:37:53.000 I'd like to talk to him about that because it seems like he got.

01:37:57.000 From all accounts, the people that work with him on the film, he got so into that character that he was like being Andy Kaufman all the time.

01:38:06.000 Like, it was like they were like, dude, you gotta chill.

01:38:06.000 Yeah, we heard a lot of accounts.

01:38:09.000 You gotta chill.

01:38:13.000 I mean, I've worked with some that have taken it to the level.

01:38:16.000 Yeah, they said Jared Leto did that when he was playing the Joker.

01:38:19.000 The people are like, hey, man, stop.

01:38:21.000 Stop sending me dead birds. 0.95

01:38:23.000 Rats. 1.00

01:38:24.000 You dead rats. 1.00

01:38:26.000 Shy LaBeouf. 0.99

01:38:27.000 I mean, yeah.

01:38:28.000 LaBeouf?

01:38:29.000 LaBeouf?

01:38:29.000 I don't know.

01:38:30.000 I always get corrected. 0.51

01:38:31.000 Shyla.

01:38:31.000 Sorry, Shyla.

01:38:32.000 But yeah, there's a lot of those guys.

01:38:34.000 They go into that rabbit hole and they can't crawl out.

01:38:38.000 It's just, I think just having, also, it's like frontal cortex being defined, right?

01:38:42.000 Like, you get famous too early when you did, you know.

01:38:46.000 I worked as a valet, I worked as a barbag, I friggin' did all these shitty jobs that, you know, you kind of like, oh, no, I understand, like, how the real world operates. 0.63

01:38:56.000 You get famous too early, you get stunted in your growth. 0.96

01:39:00.000 And I truly believe that.

01:39:01.000 I think so, too.

01:39:02.000 And I think it's a real crime when they do it to little kids.

01:39:05.000 It's 100%.

01:39:06.000 They never make it out normal.

01:39:08.000 No.

01:39:08.000 I never met one.

01:39:10.000 I've met Leo.

01:39:12.000 Leo made it out.

01:39:13.000 Yeah.

01:39:14.000 He was a child actor.

01:39:15.000 That's right.

01:39:16.000 But he had good people around him.

01:39:17.000 He had, you know, he's disciplined and he, yeah, he's got a good, like, sense of the world.

01:39:25.000 That's good.

01:39:26.000 But he always has, like, 20 year old girlfriends.

01:39:26.000 Yeah.

01:39:28.000 It's easy to be happy.

01:39:32.000 Chilling on a yacht with 20 year olds.

01:39:32.000 Isn't everything?

01:39:34.000 I don't understand.

01:39:36.000 Like, what do they even talk about?

01:39:37.000 But at the end of the day, very few.

01:39:41.000 Well, he did really, he really was famous.

01:39:43.000 You were pretty young, though.

01:39:44.000 Really, yeah.

01:39:44.000 He might be the only one.

01:39:44.000 Yeah.

01:39:46.000 But I mean, I guess Jodie Foster, she seems pretty put together. 0.99

01:39:49.000 She doesn't seem like she's lost her fucking marbles. 0.92

01:39:51.000 But then you see the Britney Spears of the Worlds and these other people, and you go, oh man, I don't think that was really good for them. 0.98

01:39:58.000 You know?

01:39:59.000 Yeah, there's, I think also Corey Feldman.

01:40:01.000 You see these people that were like huge movie stars and they're young.

01:40:04.000 And as they're getting older, it's like, I don't think they're doing good.

01:40:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:40:08.000 I think their head's all fucked up. 1.00

01:40:10.000 Well, when you place too much value on that too, and then it goes away. 1.00

01:40:10.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:40:14.000 Yeah.

01:40:15.000 Where's your identity?

01:40:16.000 I had Macaulay Culkin in here, and he was very interesting.

01:40:19.000 Very nice guy, like very smart guy, interesting guy, but he struggles.

01:40:23.000 You know, it's like he realizes he was sort of robbed of a normal childhood.

01:40:29.000 Yeah.

01:40:30.000 Became famous as a little kid, man.

01:40:32.000 Home alone.

01:40:32.000 He was little.

01:40:34.000 My dad, I mean, kudos to my dad because he did a really good job of protecting us from that and very private.

01:40:34.000 Yeah.

01:40:42.000 We didn't live in LA, didn't live, you know, we lived in Carmel.

01:40:47.000 It was a very, you know, as normal as it could be, but in the sense that it, He was like, No, that's, you know, you just need to be a normal child and learn how the world works.

01:41:00.000 Carmel is beautiful, man.

01:41:02.000 Nice place to grow up.

01:41:02.000 It is.

01:41:04.000 Yeah.

01:41:05.000 Gorgeous.

01:41:05.000 They say newlywed and nearly dead.

01:41:08.000 Right?

01:41:08.000 That's what it is.

01:41:09.000 Because it's like people get married there and then they fucking go there to die. 1.00

01:41:12.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:41:13.000 It's so true.

01:41:14.000 Yeah.

01:41:15.000 It's a little slow for me, but it's beautiful.

01:41:17.000 Yeah.

01:41:18.000 I do appreciate it. 0.98

01:41:19.000 But they have annoying homeowners associations.

01:41:21.000 Oh, yeah.

01:41:22.000 Come on.

01:41:23.000 You were at the dang and you were doing it.

01:41:26.000 Know what you're supposed to do. 1.00

01:41:28.000 This is off white. 0.95

01:41:29.000 This is not white.

01:41:31.000 Your fence is the wrong color.

01:41:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:41:35.000 Fucking get a life. 1.00

01:41:36.000 Well, old people love to control their neighborhood. 1.00

01:41:40.000 They get horrible on those homeowners associations. 1.00

01:41:43.000 Old people who are really into controlling the neighborhood, like, oh. 1.00

01:41:48.000 I'm like so bored with that story. 1.00

01:41:49.000 I'm like, God, can you just be different?

01:41:52.000 Can you just surprise me with something else, you know?

01:41:55.000 Yeah.

01:41:56.000 And old people like to live around other old people too, makes them feel comfortable. 0.99

01:42:00.000 They don't want to be around parties. 0.99

01:42:01.000 So that's why Carmel calls out to them.

01:42:04.000 If you keep the real estate price high, great. 0.92

01:42:06.000 Now you got old people living around, old rich people. 1.00

01:42:09.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:42:10.000 The most fun.

01:42:12.000 They're the most fun.

01:42:14.000 They're the most fun.

01:42:16.000 Yeah.

01:42:17.000 They're the most entitled.

01:42:19.000 Yeah.

01:42:20.000 They think they could tell you the most what to do because they're used to telling everybody what to do. 0.99

01:42:25.000 But still, Carmel, fucking beautiful. 0.99

01:42:27.000 Beautiful part of the country. 0.99

01:42:28.000 Yeah.

01:42:29.000 That coast.

01:42:30.000 Oh, my God.

01:42:30.000 And also sharks out there.

01:42:33.000 A lot of great whites.

01:42:34.000 They're all over the place up there.

01:42:34.000 A lot of sharks.

01:42:36.000 Yeah.

01:42:37.000 Yeah.

01:42:38.000 But it's California, man, is one of the most beautiful places on earth.

01:42:42.000 It has so much variation.

01:42:44.000 There's something you got deserts, you got the beach, you got mountains, you got everything all in this one beautiful state.

01:42:51.000 Yeah, everyone was, I mean, even in the development of our country, I was like, everyone was going out west because it was so prestigious.

01:42:59.000 It was like, oh, the gold rush and getting out west.

01:43:02.000 And then California, really, LA, it was the movie industry.

01:43:06.000 And that's really what made it.

01:43:07.000 It's kind of sad now because they've completely driven it out.

01:43:12.000 I mean, you still have TV shows?

01:43:14.000 Yeah.

01:43:15.000 Barely have TV shows.

01:43:16.000 Barely.

01:43:17.000 Barely.

01:43:18.000 It's brutal.

01:43:19.000 It's brutal.

01:43:19.000 Do you still live there?

01:43:21.000 No.

01:43:21.000 You live out here now?

01:43:22.000 Yeah.

01:43:23.000 I kind of tell people I live on the road because that's essentially where I am.

01:43:28.000 You know, I was in Atlanta.

01:43:31.000 I was here.

01:43:31.000 I was there.

01:43:32.000 I was in Italy making a movie.

01:43:34.000 Well, that's the thing about film, right?

01:43:36.000 Like, they're never.

01:43:37.000 How many films get filmed in Los Angeles these days?

01:43:39.000 It's not even beneficial to live there.

01:43:41.000 I've never.

01:43:42.000 I don't think I've ever worked on.

01:43:43.000 Maybe I've worked on one film, but it was for a week.

01:43:46.000 And it was, we shot the rest of it somewhere else.

01:43:49.000 Yeah.

01:43:50.000 They make it so hard for people now. 1.00

01:43:52.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

01:43:53.000 Yeah, it's rough. 1.00

01:43:54.000 It's rough.

01:43:55.000 It's sad because film is inherently, like Hollywood is inherently something that we've produced out of California, out of America.

01:44:07.000 And it's like to see that just get completely blown up.

01:44:12.000 I know.

01:44:12.000 Like an industry.

01:44:14.000 Do you have friends still live back there?

01:44:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:17.000 Tons of California friends.

01:44:17.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:44:19.000 And.

01:44:20.000 You know, I look, I was never, I don't have a lot of industry friends.

01:44:28.000 I do have some, but actors like sometimes aren't my people.

01:44:34.000 They're just not.

01:44:36.000 I just, I don't know.

01:44:36.000 Right.

01:44:37.000 Like, I don't want to intellectualize about it.

01:44:39.000 I don't want to talk about acting.

01:44:41.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:41.000 Like, it's like, that's cool.

01:44:43.000 It's like something I do, but it doesn't define me.

01:44:45.000 You know?

01:44:46.000 Some of them are just, they're so self important. 1.00

01:44:49.000 And it's, you know, you're, It's not even almost not their fault, almost, because they're getting their asses kissed all the time. 1.00

01:44:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:44:56.000 They're on sets and people are trying to get them bagels and coffee and everyone's always catering to them.

01:45:00.000 So they start feeling like they deserve that from the world.

01:45:04.000 Yeah.

01:45:04.000 It just gets real weird.

01:45:06.000 It gets weird.

01:45:07.000 There's a lot of deep insecurity in that industry, right?

01:45:10.000 It's massed by, um, massed by like false security, right?

01:45:16.000 Like it's like, I'm the man, I'm tougher, I'm this thing.

01:45:21.000 You build this ego up and you're like, yeah, uh, dude.

01:45:24.000 Like, we're just doing a job here. 0.99

01:45:26.000 Can you get to set and shut the fuck up? 0.99

01:45:28.000 It's just the attention that you get. 0.99

01:45:30.000 You know, you get so much attention from the world that you start thinking you're important.

01:45:34.000 And, you know, it's natural, natural for human beings, but especially even more natural for people that pretend to be someone else for a living.

01:45:41.000 No, and like some of the accountability, man, in the industry is unbelievable.

01:45:46.000 You know, I just worked with somebody that I think was just, without saying any names, but, you know, just.

01:45:55.000 Maybe, you know, people just get like too famous for too long because they think the world owes them something.

01:45:59.000 And then when it comes to like doing the right thing, you're like, dude, you get to, it's black and white.

01:46:06.000 Do the right thing. 1.00

01:46:08.000 Don't be a piece of shit. 1.00

01:46:09.000 You, you can't do that. 1.00

01:46:11.000 That's unacceptable behavior. 1.00

01:46:13.000 And they're like, fuck that. 1.00

01:46:14.000 I can do a, and you're just like, what, dude? 0.99

01:46:16.000 What are you talking about exactly?

01:46:18.000 You could, you could say a name and then we'll edit it out.

01:46:21.000 You want to do that?

01:46:22.000 Well, yeah, I just, you know, we started working on a, on a film with, with a director and, and they decided, you know, after we had spent a bunch of money that they just didn't.

01:46:33.000 Feel like they wanted to work with this other person and didn't want to do the job, do the thing.

01:46:39.000 And so I was like, okay, well, you need to pay that money back now to that person who invested in you.

01:46:45.000 And they're like, I don't do that.

01:46:46.000 And it's like, well, yeah, you do.

01:46:49.000 Yeah, you do.

01:46:50.000 That's the right thing to do.

01:46:51.000 So they decided they didn't want to work with another person?

01:46:54.000 Yeah, they didn't want to work with another person after we started pre production on the film.

01:46:58.000 So they're trying to get the person kicked off the movie or were they leaving?

01:47:02.000 They just left.

01:47:02.000 And they just, it was their.

01:47:04.000 Their directorial, their story, their thing.

01:47:06.000 And it was just like, bro, you took money from somebody.

01:47:10.000 That's also a good way to get sued. 0.56

01:47:12.000 That seems like a young person can get sued pretty easy for that.

01:47:16.000 Yeah, but it's just the bigger thing is just I've seen some behavior in this business that is shocking.

01:47:24.000 That would not go in other industries.

01:47:28.000 But for some reason, because they're stars.

01:47:31.000 Yeah, you're like, what?

01:47:33.000 It's also the thing, there's a thing that some people want to be a star so they can behave like that. 0.87

01:47:38.000 They want to be a star sword that can order people around or just do whatever the fuck they want to do and just be unpredictable and wild. 0.73

01:47:44.000 They actually enjoy that aspect of being famous.

01:47:47.000 Yeah, to be honest, I never, I really didn't.

01:47:52.000 People think they want to be famous.

01:47:54.000 You don't want to be famous.

01:47:55.000 You don't want to be famous.

01:47:56.000 Rich.

01:47:57.000 Sure.

01:47:58.000 Rich is better.

01:47:59.000 Rich is better.

01:48:00.000 But to be fair, that goal is so twisted.

01:48:05.000 It's not like I love telling stories.

01:48:08.000 And when we're doing a creative endeavor and you move people, whether you make them laugh, make them cry, whatever, the whole other side of that is like just really ugly. 0.99

01:48:18.000 And it's, I think I was lucky in some ways because I got to see it growing up and got to see like how it's bullshit. 0.99

01:48:27.000 Right. 1.00

01:48:27.000 When your dad's one of the most famous movie stars of all time and he's just your dad, you go, oh, this is bullshit. 1.00

01:48:33.000 It's bullshit. 1.00

01:48:34.000 Complete bullshit. 1.00

01:48:34.000 And also, your dad is not like a guy who gives into that stuff either. 1.00

01:48:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:48:38.000 Yeah.

01:48:39.000 He's not a guy who.

01:48:40.000 Worships that kind of fame, or he's not interested in that at all.

01:48:44.000 Not at all.

01:48:45.000 He's just a put your boots on, go to work, man.

01:48:48.000 It happens to be in a creative endeavor, which is really cool and gets to use that, you know, use that muscle.

01:48:54.000 But did you hesitate at all about getting into acting because your dad was so famous at it?

01:49:00.000 Sure.

01:49:01.000 I think I was always like, I think I was always like, hey, I love telling stories.

01:49:06.000 I love watching movies.

01:49:07.000 I love this.

01:49:08.000 I don't know if exactly I wanted to ever.

01:49:11.000 Be like just an actor.

01:49:14.000 It wasn't like, oh, that's my thing.

01:49:16.000 I love the storytelling of it, and I was like a conduit in.

01:49:20.000 I'm doing other things in film now, producing, and I do want to direct.

01:49:26.000 It'd be nice to show up with my own clothes to work.

01:49:30.000 Wear this, we're here.

01:49:33.000 But also, film's a director's medium.

01:49:35.000 It's not really an actor's medium.

01:49:36.000 You need actors, it's part of the deal, but the making of a film goes way beyond the filming of a film.

01:49:43.000 You know, there's a film made.

01:49:44.000 In script and development, there's a film made while you're shooting it, and there's a film made in editing.

01:49:50.000 Have you ever directed anything before?

01:49:52.000 I've, you know, done in a creative capacity where I've been a producer.

01:49:59.000 I've had hand in directing.

01:50:04.000 But not like, hey, that's my name on the thing, and I'm super proud of it.

01:50:08.000 I just haven't found the right material to go out and kind of schlep around.

01:50:13.000 Do you write?

01:50:14.000 No.

01:50:15.000 No.

01:50:16.000 And it's the backbone of the industry.

01:50:19.000 Right.

01:50:20.000 Yeah, if you could write your own thing.

01:50:22.000 Yeah.

01:50:23.000 I don't know how, like, the discipline to do it, like, for what you do, is tough.

01:50:30.000 You know, like, you have to thought to paper.

01:50:35.000 That doesn't interest you?

01:50:38.000 It does, in a sense.

01:50:40.000 I just don't like sitting.

01:50:44.000 You know what I mean?

01:50:45.000 I am really good at collaborating and talking about material and saying, what about this?

01:50:50.000 What if he said this?

01:50:51.000 What about this?

01:50:51.000 What if he did this?

01:50:52.000 Can we go this way?

01:50:53.000 So, I think maybe you can have a writing partner.

01:50:55.000 Yeah.

01:50:56.000 Maybe you have a writing partner, someone who you jive with that's creative, and you guys can get together and you could come up with your own idea.

01:51:03.000 That way, you have like material that is exciting for you and you could direct that.

01:51:08.000 Because I would imagine if you're even working with guys like Guy Ritchie and all these directors you work with, you've got a chance to see the discipline in the highest level.

01:51:18.000 Like, you get to see those guys do it.

01:51:20.000 You know, you get to see how they piece it together.

01:51:22.000 It must be fascinating.

01:51:23.000 It is.

01:51:24.000 And everyone has a different, uh, A different way of going about it.

01:51:27.000 Like Guy Richie, here's the thing about Guy Richie.

01:51:30.000 You learn the script, then you show up, and he's just like throws it out the window and goes, You say this, you do that, you do this.

01:51:38.000 And then you're like, Okay.

01:51:40.000 And so if you're not, it doesn't work for everybody.

01:51:42.000 Some people can't handle that heat.

01:51:44.000 I love it.

01:51:45.000 I'm like, This is awesome.

01:51:46.000 Let's do it.

01:51:47.000 Okay, let's go.

01:51:47.000 What is it?

01:51:49.000 So, meaning he wants you to improvise?

01:51:51.000 He wants you to talk like a real person?

01:51:53.000 It's not necessarily that it's improvising, it's more he's seeing the movie.

01:51:58.000 He's wearing multiple hats.

01:52:00.000 So he's seen the movie, what he's already shot.

01:52:01.000 And then he's like, I actually don't want that scene.

01:52:04.000 I want him to say this and this.

01:52:06.000 He kind of like is molding the movie in real time.

01:52:09.000 In real time.

01:52:10.000 And then what he'll do is he'll go back to his trailer.

01:52:13.000 They have like a blacked out trailer and they'll watch the movie and he'll radio in and say, Hey, say it like this or do it like this or do it one more time.

01:52:24.000 So he's kind of like watching the movie as an audience member.

01:52:30.000 It's really interesting.

01:52:31.000 Is he the only one you know that does it that way?

01:52:33.000 Yes, 100%.

01:52:35.000 And then you have guys like my dad who would never do that.

01:52:38.000 They wouldn't even.

01:52:39.000 They're just.

01:52:40.000 They are like right there.

01:52:42.000 Just going, okay.

01:52:43.000 Have you heard Matt Damon's story?

01:52:45.000 Which one?

01:52:46.000 Matt Damon was working with your dad and he did a take and he liked it, but he wanted to do it again because we do it again.

01:52:54.000 Clint's like, no, we got it.

01:52:55.000 He's like, but I've been fucking working forever on this thing. 0.92

01:52:59.000 I want one more go at it. 0.98

01:53:01.000 He's like, we got it.

01:53:02.000 And he probably said something like, Well, if you want to waste everyone's time, sure.

01:53:02.000 Yeah.

01:53:09.000 And then Matt's like, no, We're good.

01:53:14.000 Oh, so funny.

01:53:15.000 Yeah.

01:53:15.000 It's so funny.

01:53:17.000 Yeah.

01:53:18.000 Whatever Guy Ritchie's process is, it works.

01:53:21.000 It works. 0.98

01:53:22.000 His fucking shows, his movies are some of my all time favorites. 1.00

01:53:27.000 Right from the beginning, right from Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels and Snatched, holy shit. 1.00

01:53:32.000 His movies are so good. 0.96

01:53:34.000 And he really did such a fantastic job of.

01:53:38.000 Almost like he's like the benchmark for that genre of like British crime genre.

01:53:46.000 Yes.

01:53:46.000 That's him.

01:53:47.000 That's him.

01:53:48.000 You think of British crime drama.

01:53:49.000 Oh, Guy Ritchie.

01:53:50.000 Guy Ritchie movie.

01:53:51.000 Like, there's this dude.

01:53:52.000 His name is Lee Murray.

01:53:54.000 Lee Murray, he was a UFC fighter.

01:53:57.000 He was famous in London, in England, for being like a street fighter and this crazy guy who was fighting in MMA at a really high level, like one in the UFC.

01:54:06.000 And then was a part of the biggest armed robbery in the history of the UK.

01:54:13.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:13.000 No way.

01:54:14.000 This guy was a full on psycho. 1.00

01:54:16.000 He was a gangster. 1.00

01:54:17.000 Oh, full gangster. 0.94

01:54:18.000 He was such a gangster that he got stabbed in the heart in a street fight.

01:54:22.000 And they made a video of him hitting mitt six weeks later.

01:54:25.000 Six weeks later, he's back in the gym.

01:54:26.000 Pop, It's. 0.99

01:54:29.000 He was a crazy person. 0.96

01:54:30.000 I got to see him fight in real life. 0.69

01:54:32.000 He actually knocked out a friend of mine in the first round.

01:54:34.000 But so he got arrested for this crime.

01:54:36.000 Oh, he's still in jail.

01:54:36.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:37.000 He's still in prison.

01:54:38.000 He'll be in jail for probably the rest of his life.

01:54:38.000 He's still in jail.

01:54:41.000 They stole an enormous amount of money.

01:54:42.000 And they did it like in a very high tech, like the movie Heat.

01:54:48.000 Like that crazy. 0.99

01:54:49.000 Like they had full masks on, armored fucking body armor, the whole deal. 1.00

01:54:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:54:54.000 Yeah.

01:54:55.000 And.

01:54:56.000 How much did they steal?

01:54:58.000 53 million pounds?

01:55:01.000 Oh, wow.

01:55:01.000 Is that 92 million dollars?

01:55:03.000 I think it's the biggest armed robbery in Britain's history.

01:55:06.000 Did they hurt people doing it?

01:55:09.000 They didn't hug them, they didn't help them.

01:55:10.000 I don't know if he killed them.

01:55:11.000 No, I mean, I'm just wondering if.

01:55:13.000 The largest peacetime cash robbery in world history.

01:55:16.000 Wow.

01:55:17.000 So it's worth 92 million dollars.

01:55:20.000 53 million pounds back then. 0.99

01:55:20.000 Damn. 0.99

01:55:22.000 So that was in 2006. 0.98

01:55:24.000 So this is after he had bid in the UFC.

01:55:27.000 So, you know.

01:55:28.000 I called his fight in the UFC.

01:55:30.000 I was doing commentary back then.

01:55:32.000 Wow.

01:55:33.000 They left over 150 million behind, 150 million pounds, because they ran out of room in their transport vehicles. 0.99

01:55:39.000 Holy shit. 0.99

01:55:40.000 How did they get caught? 0.99

01:55:41.000 Only about 21 million pounds of the stolen cash has ever been recovered.

01:55:46.000 So somebody made away with more than 30 million pounds.

01:55:49.000 So he flew to Morocco.

01:55:50.000 Murray and several associates fled to Morocco because he held dual British Moroccan citizenship and Morocco did not have an extradition treaty with the UK.

01:56:00.000 He evaded British authorities.

01:56:02.000 Moroccan police arrested Murray in June of 2006 in a shopping mall in Rabat following an international manhunt.

01:56:10.000 Instead of being extradited, he was tried in Morocco.

01:56:14.000 After initially being sentenced to 10 years, Moroccan appeals court extended his sentence to 25 years in prison for his role in forming a criminal gang, kidnapping, and armed robbery.

01:56:25.000 So, like, when this guy got arrested and when everyone's here, the story, everybody was saying that guy's got to be a Guy Ritchie movie.

01:56:32.000 Like, that's how much Guy Ritchie has, like, locked down that genre.

01:56:32.000 Yeah.

01:56:37.000 And I think there was some talk.

01:56:40.000 Is there talk about Guy Ritchie doing a movie on the Lee Murray heist?

01:56:45.000 Something came out in Chasing Lightning.

01:56:51.000 He came out or Lee?

01:56:51.000 No, no, no.

01:56:52.000 I hope he didn't make that.

01:56:53.000 But something came out.

01:56:54.000 It's like a miniseries about it.

01:56:56.000 Oh, about the heist.

01:56:58.000 But has Guy Ritchie been connected to a movie about it?

01:57:00.000 Because I know a bunch of people were talking about it, saying, like, it has to be a Guy Ritchie movie.

01:57:04.000 Like, if you're going to really capture who this guy was.

01:57:07.000 He was a real nut. 0.89

01:57:07.000 Yeah. 0.89

01:57:08.000 Like a real, like, world class fighter.

01:57:11.000 Who would play him?

01:57:12.000 Like, give me the.

01:57:13.000 Because I don't know what he looks like.

01:57:14.000 Jason Statham could probably nail it.

01:57:16.000 Well, then there it is.

01:57:16.000 Okay.

01:57:17.000 He's perfect.

01:57:18.000 Cast already.

01:57:19.000 Yeah.

01:57:19.000 I mean, he doesn't have the hair for it, but because Lee Murray had a full head of hair, but it doesn't matter.

01:57:24.000 It's been a rumor for a long time, but he instead did a True Kyme docuseries called Diamond Heist instead, which is like a similar story, but it's not the same story at all.

01:57:32.000 Oh.

01:57:33.000 Okay.

01:57:34.000 The story itself is so bananas.

01:57:36.000 It's just the fact that this guy was this world class MMA fighter.

01:57:40.000 Who.

01:57:40.000 Yeah.

01:57:41.000 Was also a robber, like a high level bank robber.

01:57:45.000 Sounds like they, I mean, you don't steal like $90 million without.

01:57:49.000 Do they have footage of that robbery?

01:57:51.000 Is there video footage of it? 0.97

01:57:53.000 I feel like there's security footage of it and they look nuts.

01:57:56.000 I mean, it looks like a movie.

01:57:59.000 It might be. 0.99

01:58:00.000 Fucking masks on, everything, the whole deal. 0.98

01:58:03.000 It's just that when you think about that kind of a guy and that kind of a story, I mean, that is right up Guy Ritchie's alley. 0.99

01:58:11.000 That show, Mob Land.

01:58:12.000 God, that show's so good.

01:58:14.000 It's good.

01:58:15.000 It's good.

01:58:16.000 It's so good.

01:58:17.000 It's so good.

01:58:18.000 It's so like a movie that's like seven hours long or however many episodes there are.

01:58:23.000 That's great.

01:58:24.000 It really is great.

01:58:26.000 Do you have a favorite guy that you've worked with?

01:58:29.000 He's got to be up.

01:58:30.000 I mean, he's, yeah.

01:58:32.000 If him, I got to work with Oliver Stone.

01:58:37.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:58:38.000 Which is like, you know, like sitting with the devil.

01:58:42.000 Iconic.

01:58:44.000 Oh, man.

01:58:47.000 George Tillman Jr. is a great director.

01:58:49.000 I don't know if you remember that movie, Men of Honor.

01:58:51.000 Yes.

01:58:51.000 Remember with Cuba Gooding Jr.?

01:58:53.000 Oh, sure.

01:58:54.000 He's a great director.

01:58:56.000 There's a lot of.

01:58:57.000 I've gotten to work with some really cool.

01:58:59.000 David Ayer is really interesting.

01:59:02.000 That guy's a tough guy.

01:59:03.000 I don't know if you know his story, but he's had a really dark past.

01:59:08.000 But he was essentially.

01:59:09.000 He lived on a submarine for like two years, like underwater.

01:59:13.000 Whoa.

01:59:14.000 Yeah.

01:59:14.000 I'm like, you got some screws loose if you lived on a submarine for two years.

01:59:18.000 Underwater for two years will fuck you up for 200 years. 0.99

01:59:22.000 I know. 0.97

01:59:23.000 I'm just thinking about how claustrophobic you could get.

01:59:25.000 Like, I got to get out of this.

01:59:27.000 Get me out. 0.98

01:59:29.000 You're squashing that part of your brain way too long. 0.96

01:59:31.000 Yeah.

01:59:32.000 I could do that for an hour.

01:59:35.000 I don't even know if I want to get in a submarine after I watched the tin can.

01:59:39.000 They just exploded.

01:59:40.000 Oh, those people.

01:59:42.000 Yeah.

01:59:42.000 I was like, oh, that's not wise.

01:59:44.000 Dude, when you watch the recreations of what must have happened to them, they were just liquefied instantaneously by the pressure of the ocean.

01:59:51.000 That'd be a good way to go.

01:59:52.000 Maybe better than a shark.

01:59:53.000 Because it's like that.

01:59:53.000 Quick.

01:59:54.000 Yeah, but then people are talking about you like you're an idiot. 1.00

01:59:56.000 Like you got in that stupid tin can. 1.00

01:59:58.000 You're a billionaire idiot. 1.00

01:59:59.000 Even worse. 1.00

02:00:00.000 I can't go down like that. 1.00

02:00:01.000 Think about all these fucking people that would love to have just a piece of your money so they could go have a margarita on the beach somewhere. 0.99

02:00:07.000 I'm going to go to Tid Kat. 1.00

02:00:08.000 It's going to be great.

02:00:09.000 I'm going to go to the bottom of the ocean and tell everybody I look through a tiny window. 1.00

02:00:13.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:00:15.000 Well, I had a conversation with Cameron, and James Cameron went to the bottom of the fucking ocean by himself. 1.00

02:00:24.000 No, no, that's not. 0.99

02:00:25.000 There's so much wrong with that.

02:00:27.000 He went to the bottom of the Mariana Trench, right?

02:00:30.000 I think he holds the world record.

02:00:32.000 For, like, a single piloted submarine vehicle, the deepest depths?

02:00:38.000 No.

02:00:39.000 And I also feel the same way about space.

02:00:41.000 You know, I'm like, I'm a big Musk fan, but I don't have any desire, bro, to go to Mars or go to space.

02:00:47.000 Fair enough, bro.

02:00:47.000 Have fun.

02:00:48.000 Have fun.

02:00:49.000 You do that.

02:00:50.000 Yeah.

02:00:50.000 Okay?

02:00:51.000 I'm good here on this planet.

02:00:54.000 It must be awesome to be just, I would like to be in Earth's orbit once just to look down.

02:00:59.000 I bet it's not.

02:01:00.000 And see the full Earth.

02:01:02.000 That'd be cool.

02:01:03.000 They say you have that experience.

02:01:04.000 Like, all these different astronauts have talked.

02:01:07.000 About it.

02:01:07.000 It's the overview effect that you, when you're above earth looking down on it, it just, you're like, oh my God, we're so fragile.

02:01:14.000 It's all just us together.

02:01:15.000 We have to stop.

02:01:16.000 We have to stop all this. 1.00

02:01:17.000 Like, you have this realization of what we really are and what we're really doing and how stupid tribal conflicts are. 0.99

02:01:24.000 Like, we're, I mean, yeah, we're a war. 0.99

02:01:28.000 Yeah.

02:01:30.000 We just keep repeating the same cycle.

02:01:32.000 It's sad, actually.

02:01:33.000 It's sad because eventually it'll probably happen again.

02:01:38.000 A world war.

02:01:39.000 I mean, that's the like, if you look at the math, it's kind of happening right now.

02:01:43.000 It's like, what's going on, man?

02:01:45.000 Are we gonna keep doing this?

02:01:46.000 I guess that's what we're doing.

02:01:48.000 It's very disturbing.

02:01:50.000 When you're playing a character in a period piece like that, what do you have to do in terms of like make sure you're behaving like they behaved and talking like they talked? 0.69

02:02:02.000 Like, did you have to watch film of those old people?

02:02:07.000 Yeah, you talk to a lot of people.

02:02:09.000 In this case, this movie, you know, was about, geez, the guys are, you know, almost all passed away at this point.

02:02:19.000 But I luckily got.

02:02:22.000 Got to meet a lot of veterans because I've done 20 years of doing a few war movies.

02:02:27.000 So I've gotten to meet these folks and talk to them and hear their stories, see like sometimes the pain in their eyes when they tell these stories.

02:02:35.000 And you realize the gravity of what they're carrying and what they did for the world.

02:02:43.000 There's so many heroes in World War II, you know, so many people that did so many things that affect like our way of life.

02:02:50.000 I mean, and affect a lot of the world's way of life.

02:02:51.000 I mean, All of France and most of Europe isn't speaking German because of what happened.

02:02:58.000 And so you carry that weight with you.

02:03:03.000 It can be, if it's a real person, you can watch tape on them, then you get that luxury.

02:03:10.000 But if you don't, then I think it's about carrying that weight and just trying to be as true as you can.

02:03:20.000 It comes with a cost doing these movies because.

02:03:23.000 not only you go and make them, but then you go and promote them and you meet these people.

02:03:28.000 I met one of the oldest living veterans the other night at the Washington Archives in D.C., 107 years old.

02:03:35.000 Whoa.

02:03:36.000 Colonel Stern.

02:03:38.000 And got to hold his hand, you know, and really quite clear still headed.

02:03:43.000 Like, I mean, shockingly, when he spoke to me, I was like, oh my gosh.

02:03:48.000 But you could feel that generation, that you could feel that what he had been through.

02:03:55.000 He was actually at the Battle of the Bulge.

02:03:57.000 And you're like, oh, and then have him tell us, like, we got it right.

02:03:57.000 Whoa.

02:04:02.000 And that's what it, like, you know, like brought me to tears.

02:04:04.000 I was like, I was like kind of like, I was shook.

02:04:08.000 So moments like that, it comes, you know, it's like, wow, this is a great responsibility to tell this story.

02:04:14.000 Now, I can imagine having a conversation with a 170-year-old guy who's been through war.

02:04:20.000 And the war was, what, how many years ago?

02:04:22.000 1942.

02:04:23.000 What is that?

02:04:25.000 How many years ago was that?

02:04:27.000 So he would probably have been 20, yes.

02:04:28.000 So, right, he would have been like 84.

02:04:31.000 Yeah.

02:04:32.000 So 84 years ago.

02:04:33.000 Yeah.

02:04:34.000 And it's still the most probably impactful thing that ever happened in his life.

02:04:40.000 Imagine that.

02:04:41.000 Imagine you're 107 years old and your life is kind of defined by something that happened 84 years ago.

02:04:48.000 Yeah.

02:04:50.000 Yeah.

02:04:52.000 It's wild what they went through.

02:04:53.000 I mean, imagine.

02:04:55.000 I mean, if they're like, hey, pack up, Joe, Scott, like we're going to wherever it is, like, I don't know, wherever we're going right now, and we're going to. 0.98

02:05:06.000 Have to kill people. 0.93

02:05:07.000 And imagine the information you're getting. 0.99

02:05:09.000 Like newspaper articles and a radio broadcast?

02:05:09.000 What are you getting?

02:05:12.000 Yeah.

02:05:14.000 What do you read?

02:05:14.000 That's a Battalion commander during World War II.

02:05:18.000 Stern, his name was Senator Radcliffe.

02:05:22.000 What is his name?

02:05:23.000 Herbert Irving Stern.

02:05:25.000 That's his name.

02:05:28.000 So it says, a Battalion commander during World War II.

02:05:30.000 Stern was awarded the Silver Star Medal during the Battle of the Bulge for his actions in April 1945 while driving.

02:05:36.000 Through Germany, Stern and his men discovered a concentration camp with 3,000 Jewish women.

02:05:42.000 They liberated the camp, providing immediate relief to the prisoners, and destroyed the facility.

02:05:46.000 Wow.

02:05:47.000 Isn't that amazing?

02:05:48.000 Like, we have to celebrate these people, you know?

02:05:51.000 But can you imagine you're overseas?

02:05:51.000 Like, it's.

02:05:54.000 You're a kid.

02:05:56.000 It's 1945, and you liberate a camp of 3,000 Jewish women that are being imprisoned.

02:06:03.000 Yeah, it gives me chills just thinking about it. 0.99

02:06:05.000 Holy shit, man. 0.99

02:06:06.000 He would have been like, yeah, 35 years old, 34 years old. 0.99

02:06:10.000 Can you imagine if we could see what that guy's seen?

02:06:14.000 I mean, I don't know if we want to.

02:06:15.000 I mean, that would change your whole world, like look on the world, man.

02:06:21.000 I mean.

02:06:21.000 But you have to think that way, right?

02:06:23.000 When you're playing these guys, you have to almost put yourself in their head.

02:06:28.000 Like, what is that like?

02:06:28.000 How hard is that?

02:06:30.000 It just comes with, like I said, it comes with a cost.

02:06:34.000 You go through an emotional journey, you pay a price, you have to lend your own emotion and own.

02:06:45.000 Grief, whatever that is in your life, and you have to kind of relive some of that.

02:06:50.000 And it's part of going through what it would have been like to see some of these atrocities, to see what it's like to lose your best friend right beside you, to lose people that are, you know, to see a concentration camp full of women that are, you know, probably skin and bones.

02:07:06.000 And like, it's just, you know, it makes you just so, it makes me so grateful for what we have and where we're at.

02:07:14.000 It's also the human's capacity for evil.

02:07:18.000 When you're faced with it like that, it's so disturbing that people are capable of doing things like that and that they still are.

02:07:25.000 That they're still, I mean, to this day, right now, somewhere in the world, there's human beings committing atrocities and killing people.

02:07:31.000 I know.

02:07:32.000 It's, yeah, it's brutal.

02:07:35.000 It's brutal to think how savage we can become.

02:07:37.000 Like, it's crazy because you think about it, it's like we're not far off.

02:07:44.000 You take water away for 72 hours and we're dead.

02:07:48.000 Yeah.

02:07:48.000 So, how quickly do we turn savage?

02:07:52.000 Fighting each other if we don't have basic needs.

02:07:55.000 Oh, yeah.

02:07:56.000 Civilization is a very thin veneer.

02:07:58.000 Yeah.

02:07:59.000 It's very thin and it's very vulnerable.

02:08:02.000 And I think most people are delusional and they're very well fed, very well fed and rested.

02:08:08.000 And they don't have any idea how precarious this thing that we exist in is.

02:08:14.000 I think when you're, I would imagine, when you're doing a World War II film or something like that, you're forced to realize, you're forced to encounter that reality of the human condition.

02:08:24.000 That sometimes, I mean, throughout history, that's kind of the defining moments of our past.

02:08:30.000 When you think about the history of the world, really you're talking about the history of war.

02:08:35.000 You're talking about the history of war and conquests, invasions and conquests.

02:08:38.000 It's like most of what we talk about when we talk about history.

02:08:43.000 We talk about the various wars and what happened, what was the result, and who was the king and who did this.

02:08:48.000 What was it over?

02:08:49.000 Greed, resources.

02:08:51.000 This war is really, I think, why it's so fascinating, why World War II is still so fascinating is because.

02:08:57.000 There is no ambiguity between right and wrong in that war, really.

02:09:04.000 What they were doing in Nazi Germany was terrifying.

02:09:09.000 They were exterminating innocent people.

02:09:12.000 And we came together as a world, a coalition, and fought that evil.

02:09:19.000 And that is very different than a war like Vietnam, where we're like, why are we here?

02:09:24.000 Or you're questioning, is this just a politically motivated thing?

02:09:30.000 No, this was to save.

02:09:32.000 People.

02:09:33.000 And that is, that's very different.

02:09:36.000 Yeah, we think of that as our last great war.

02:09:39.000 That is the World War II in most people's eyes is the last just war.

02:09:39.000 War.

02:09:45.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:09:45.000 You know, we think it's like that's the one that needed to be done. 0.98

02:09:49.000 Because it wasn't just evil people, it was evil people on meth, which is really crazy when you, when we, I didn't know that until like a decade or two ago.

02:09:58.000 That they were all on meth.

02:09:58.000 Yeah.

02:10:00.000 And then we had Norman Ohl.

02:10:02.000 He wrote, how do I say his last name?

02:10:06.000 Ohler.

02:10:07.000 Ohler.

02:10:07.000 He wrote this book, Blitzkrieg, and it's all about the Blitzkrieg when they went through.

02:10:12.000 Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and Poland in like three days. 0.80

02:10:16.000 And it was all meth.

02:10:18.000 They just gave them meth.

02:10:19.000 Yeah, that was in the beginning of the war.

02:10:20.000 Yeah.

02:10:21.000 They had like 35 million doses of meth.

02:10:24.000 It's nuts, man.

02:10:25.000 That is nuts.

02:10:26.000 And they gave the guys at the front of the lines the most meth.

02:10:30.000 The guys in the tanks, like, you guys get the most meth.

02:10:32.000 They wanted them just meffed up, just driving for three days, killing everybody they see.

02:10:37.000 And then when they ran into the people in France, they were all drinking wine. 0.99

02:10:41.000 So, like, they're all chilling and like, they just got fucked up, man. 0.99

02:10:45.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:10:45.000 It's just. 0.99

02:10:46.000 It's not that long ago.

02:10:48.000 That's what's really scary.

02:10:50.000 It is.

02:10:50.000 It's super scary.

02:10:51.000 Also, what was crazy about this movie, and I learned something new every time I do a war movie.

02:11:00.000 I didn't realize there were German Americans living in America, like had a life here.

02:11:08.000 And when the war kicked off, there was a lot of them that went back to Germany and fought for Germany.

02:11:14.000 Whoa.

02:11:15.000 Can you imagine that?

02:11:16.000 How many?

02:11:17.000 Like, like thousands whoa, I went back and, like, you know, and then they were spies and they were they a lot of them spoke English, a lot of had the American culture, you know, they understood and they became like spies.

02:11:32.000 And it was like, can you imagine doing that? 0.99

02:11:35.000 Fuck, fuck, yeah, imagine giving up on America to go back to fight for Germany. 1.00

02:11:44.000 What, like, hey, hey, hey, hey, settle down, hold on, hold the phone. 1.00

02:11:49.000 Don't you know the spot is better? 1.00

02:11:53.000 You should be fighting for this, you fucking dumbass. 1.00

02:11:55.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:11:56.000 Yeah.

02:11:58.000 The people that are willing to do that, that's a different kind of brainwashing.

02:12:04.000 Yeah.

02:12:05.000 I mean, you know, it makes me think about some of the brainwashing we have nowadays.

02:12:10.000 Like, and you kind of think, oh, like, you know, there's a lot of conspiracy theory stuff, and I'm not a lot, but I do see, and we were talking about it today, it's like, How strong is the government to brainwash the MKUltra stuff, the stuff where you get a patsy or get someone to do something that you want them to do, kill somebody, whatever?

02:12:35.000 That's really terrifying.

02:12:37.000 You think you're your own thoughts and emotions.

02:12:40.000 Also, if you find someone who's vulnerable, you can coax them slowly but surely into becoming a different person.

02:12:47.000 You give them a purpose, you give them a direction.

02:12:52.000 They've done it before.

02:12:54.000 They didn't stop doing it in the 1960s.

02:12:56.000 That guy who tried to shoot Trump, he was probably a product of that.

02:12:59.000 Yeah.

02:13:00.000 If I had a guess.

02:13:01.000 By some organization, I'm not saying it's the American intelligence agencies, but someone talked that young kid into getting on that roof and trying to shoot Trump.

02:13:10.000 Someone, you know, someone gave him direction.

02:13:15.000 Someone.

02:13:17.000 His background is too squeaky clean after it's over.

02:13:21.000 They professionally scrubbed his apartment.

02:13:23.000 His apartment was professionally scrubbed.

02:13:26.000 There was no silverware in his apartment when they went to examine it.

02:13:29.000 All of his hard drives were gone.

02:13:31.000 All of his computers were gone.

02:13:33.000 He had more than one cell phone, which is very odd for a 20 year old kid, and had no social media profile. 0.99

02:13:38.000 The whole thing was fucked. 0.97

02:13:39.000 Can you explain to me the theories going on with like the Charlie Kirk of it all? 0.99

02:13:45.000 Because I know there's I've heard a lot of like stuff and a lot of smart people that I like respect.

02:13:50.000 Like there's something going on with that that we don't know the full well.

02:13:54.000 There's something going on with the guy being able to climb on top of that roof with a gun, dismantle it, put it back together again, and then dismantle it again and put it back together again.

02:14:06.000 Like the whole thing makes no sense.

02:14:08.000 They think they have footage of him in a backpack.

02:14:11.000 So, but a backpack doesn't carry a gun.

02:14:13.000 And so the excuse was, oh, he dismantled the gun, then reconnected it.

02:14:16.000 Well, that doesn't fly.

02:14:19.000 So, the problem with that is anybody who knows anything about guns knows that you take a scope off a gun, you take the barrel off the gun, you take the stock off the gun, you got to put it all back together again.

02:14:28.000 You might not be on anymore.

02:14:30.000 So, you're going to have to sight that gun in, right?

02:14:34.000 And if you sight that gun in, you're going to want to have targets to practice on.

02:14:38.000 You're not just going to take a 140 yard shot or whatever it was where he shot Charlie Kirk.

02:14:43.000 Not knowing if your sight is on.

02:14:45.000 Because I was hunting once and I fell with my rifle.

02:14:51.000 And we went back to the range to test it.

02:14:53.000 And it was off on a.

02:14:55.000 So when you're shooting on a block, so you're not moving at all, all you're doing is pulling the trigger.

02:15:00.000 So it's just to make sure that the gun is on.

02:15:03.000 It was off by six inches at 100 yards just by moving from a fall.

02:15:08.000 And so you have to check that and then you have to sight the gun back in.

02:15:08.000 You know?

02:15:13.000 You just take the scope off and then you put it back on and screw it back together again.

02:15:18.000 There's no guarantee that that thing's going to be accurate.

02:15:22.000 And this kid's not like a marksman.

02:15:25.000 It's not like he's got a ton of experience shooting people and shooting at a distance. 0.86

02:15:31.000 The whole thing sounds gross.

02:15:33.000 The text messages between him and his boyfriend or whatever it is, where he's saying how he did it or he's going to do it, they seem like AI made them.

02:15:42.000 It seems crazy.

02:15:43.000 And then.

02:15:44.000 There's also the fact that there was footage of him in a yogurt shop.

02:15:47.000 Is that verified?

02:15:48.000 The footage that was in a yogurt shop that was like 20 minutes later? 0.99

02:15:52.000 The guy's just chilling at some fucking frozen yogurt store. 0.98

02:15:56.000 That seems weird. 0.99

02:15:57.000 What about the stuff with like the people that were like right around the shooting and stuff?

02:16:03.000 And like, is there like some weird stuff?

02:16:04.000 Well, there's a lot of people that think that some of them were signaling for the shot to happen at a certain time. 0.99

02:16:11.000 That's a lot of bullshit. 0.97

02:16:12.000 It seems like speculation to me because, you know, people move around all the time. 1.00

02:16:16.000 People are in the crowd.

02:16:17.000 If, if, I was standing there and I went like this, and at that moment, someone got shot.

02:16:23.000 Now we're making a mountain out of them.

02:16:23.000 Okay.

02:16:25.000 Yeah.

02:16:25.000 Or if you look at your watch at a certain point and that person gets shot.

02:16:28.000 Like a lot of movements going on, you could attribute that movement to someone signaling.

02:16:34.000 To me, what's weird is the actual wound itself.

02:16:39.000 So a 30 odd six.

02:16:42.000 Well, it's not a big enough hole.

02:16:45.000 30 odd six is a big rifle round. 0.90

02:16:48.000 And to shoot a guy in the neck with a 30-odd six, you would expect, first of all, you'd expect an exit wound. 0.69

02:16:55.000 And there's no exit wound, it just goes in. 0.94

02:16:57.000 And it looks like a smaller hole.

02:16:59.000 It doesn't look like the kind of hole that I would expect from a large rifle round. 0.94

02:17:04.000 I would expect it to just blow a giant chunk of his neck right off. 0.95

02:17:10.000 That's a round that you would shoot an elk with. 1.00

02:17:13.000 It's a big round.

02:17:15.000 And then there's video footage of him from the back, and it doesn't look like there's an exit.

02:17:20.000 There's no exit.

02:17:21.000 So it just goes in his neck and stops.

02:17:23.000 The details about him being at Dairy Queen are very weird.

02:17:26.000 It seems like he was at a Dairy Queen, but they don't know which one.

02:17:29.000 And the one they thought he was at closed down weirdly a couple of weeks afterwards.

02:17:32.000 Okay, but he was.

02:17:33.000 There is footage of him at a Dairy Queen.

02:17:35.000 Yeah, just which one it was and when it was.

02:17:37.000 Okay. 0.99

02:17:38.000 Either way, after you shoot Charlie Kirk, do you really go to a fucking Dairy Queen like this before? 0.99

02:17:44.000 They're saying too. 0.99

02:17:45.000 Oh, good. 0.97

02:17:46.000 Right before you go to shoot Charlie Kirk.

02:17:49.000 You know, them blizzards got a lot of caffeine in it.

02:17:52.000 I think it's also weird that we haven't heard him talk.

02:17:56.000 He hasn't taken the stand.

02:17:58.000 There's discrepancies between whether or not his family turned him in or whether or not he said he confessed to his family.

02:18:06.000 You know, I don't know what they're saying now.

02:18:07.000 He hasn't even.

02:18:08.000 There is an update as of June 12th and a hearing and.

02:18:11.000 This article says there hasn't been a plea entered yet.

02:18:15.000 That's crazy.

02:18:16.000 Prosecutors intend to seek the death penalty if Robinson is convicted.

02:18:19.000 He has not yet entered a plea.

02:18:22.000 That happened in September.

02:18:24.000 How has he not yet entered a plea?

02:18:26.000 I don't know.

02:18:27.000 Is that like one of the things they're going over details about the fact that.

02:18:30.000 Keep you in limbo?

02:18:31.000 The prosecution going in public, talking about the bullet fragment found, and the defense is saying they shouldn't have done that, and there's a whole back and forth about that.

02:18:42.000 Hmm.

02:18:44.000 I don't know.

02:18:45.000 I don't pretend to know, but it just feels like there's a lot of stuff. 0.90

02:18:48.000 I'm sure, like you said, there's some bullshit where people are going to go, ah, Leah, see, look. 0.94

02:18:51.000 And you're like, okay, come on. 0.99

02:18:52.000 Tucker Carlson was just talking about it, and he thinks that Israel killed him.

02:18:56.000 He thinks Israel killed Charlie Kirk. 0.97

02:18:57.000 And then a lot of people are saying, that's ridiculous.

02:18:59.000 And then how many people are getting paid by Israel to run cover?

02:19:03.000 And how many people are just saying that Israel did it without real evidence?

02:19:07.000 I don't know.

02:19:09.000 But he was critical of Israel, apparently, in text messages and saying that he was going to get out of the Israel supporting business.

02:19:17.000 I don't know what that means.

02:19:18.000 You know, I don't know.

02:19:19.000 Because apparently there was also a long letter that he wrote to Netanyahu.

02:19:19.000 Okay.

02:19:23.000 He was expressing his support for Israel.

02:19:25.000 And so is that real?

02:19:26.000 I don't know.

02:19:27.000 It's so cool these days to just like.

02:19:30.000 Nothing is 100% real.

02:19:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:19:33.000 If it's a major news story involving anything significant, at least some of it's bullshit. 0.99

02:19:39.000 And so we're all just sitting here wondering did this kid really shoot Charlie Kirk because of his position on trans people? 0.99

02:19:47.000 Is that really what we're supposed to believe?

02:19:48.000 He was in love with a trans man or a trans woman, rather.

02:19:51.000 And so he shot Charlie Kirk because of that.

02:19:53.000 Do you think younger people, though, have a bigger distrust in the media?

02:19:53.000 Really?

02:19:58.000 I feel like now, I feel like that's changing.

02:20:00.000 So it's maybe for the best.

02:20:02.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:20:03.000 But I mean, this isn't even the media.

02:20:04.000 This is the government.

02:20:06.000 This is the official position.

02:20:07.000 They paved over the crime scene within days afterwards. 1.00

02:20:13.000 Yeah, but there's a lot of weird shit, man. 0.99

02:20:13.000 That's weird. 0.99

02:20:16.000 The Thomas Crooks thing, they cremated him within days.

02:20:20.000 After he was killed, you know, where's the toxicology examination?

02:20:24.000 Where's the results? 1.00

02:20:24.000 I want to know what kind of psych medication this fucking kid was on. 1.00

02:20:28.000 Like, what was he doing? 1.00

02:20:28.000 Like, what was happening? 1.00

02:20:30.000 Why did he shoot at the president?

02:20:31.000 Why did he kill people in the crowd? 1.00

02:20:33.000 Like, what the fuck is going on? 0.99

02:20:35.000 And, you know, we don't ever get told, you know? 0.99

02:20:39.000 This Tyler Robbins thing is a weird one, man.

02:20:41.000 It's weird.

02:20:43.000 Just the gun itself alone.

02:20:44.000 I've heard varying depictions. 0.99

02:20:47.000 Getting on that fucking roof with a gun, going through the stairwell with a gun, he doesn't have the gun. 0.99

02:20:52.000 So, did he get the gun up there already? 0.99

02:20:53.000 So, they're saying it's in the backpack.

02:20:55.000 It doesn't fit in the backpack.

02:20:55.000 No, it's not.

02:20:56.000 Well, maybe the stock, maybe the barrel's in his legs.

02:20:59.000 He taped it to his pants. 1.00

02:21:00.000 Fuck off. 1.00

02:21:02.000 You can't put a gun back together again and make it that accurate. 1.00

02:21:02.000 Fuck off. 1.00

02:21:05.000 I don't believe that. 1.00

02:21:06.000 And then he took it apart and then jumped off the roof with it and then put it back together again in the woods.

02:21:12.000 Is that what they're saying?

02:21:14.000 I don't know if that's exactly what they're saying.

02:21:15.000 That's some version of it, but any version of it where this guy, under a high stress, high adrenaline situation, is taking apart a gun and putting it back together again. 1.00

02:21:24.000 Fuck off. 1.00

02:21:26.000 Like, I don't believe that. 1.00

02:21:26.000 Fuck off. 1.00

02:21:28.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:21:28.000 Especially someone untrained, right? 1.00

02:21:30.000 Yeah.

02:21:30.000 Like, not a.

02:21:31.000 And he jumped off the roof afterwards and then escaped.

02:21:33.000 Like, okay.

02:21:34.000 The thing with.

02:21:35.000 Which one is this?

02:21:36.000 This is the first shooting, the professionally scrubbed apartment.

02:21:40.000 That's a weird detail that doesn't seem to have accuracy.

02:21:45.000 It says right here July 24, House Homeland Security Committee hearing Rep Eli Crane said he had received information that Crook's house was scrubbed, cleaned, and even silverware removed before investigative units arrived.

02:21:59.000 Crane entered the article making the allegation into record, and from there, professionally scrubbed and no silverware talking points spread through blogs, forums, ex posts, and podcasts.

02:22:09.000 What officials have said.

02:22:11.000 When Crane asked Pennsylvania State Commissioner Colonel Christopher Paris whether the home had been extremely clean or missing silverware, Paris replied that he had not been given any such details in his briefings.

02:22:24.000 But see, this is why I like.

02:22:25.000 He says he lived with his parents.

02:22:27.000 This is what I like, though.

02:22:28.000 You're fact checking yourself.

02:22:30.000 And I think this is super important because people start, no matter what we're talking about, people start regurgitating their own narrative.

02:22:37.000 And it's like, no, no, hold on.

02:22:38.000 I could be wrong.

02:22:39.000 And let's fact check.

02:22:41.000 Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not wrong.

02:22:42.000 So he was living with his primary residence?

02:22:45.000 It says it was his parents' single family home.

02:22:47.000 Did he have his own apartment?

02:22:48.000 He had a separate apartment.

02:22:49.000 It said he didn't.

02:22:51.000 It said he didn't?

02:22:52.000 But it says his primary residence.

02:22:54.000 Well, I mean, that's what you call it.

02:22:56.000 But it says not in his own separate apartment.

02:22:58.000 Does that mean he didn't have a separate apartment?

02:23:00.000 I didn't ask the question did he have his own apartment or whatever.

02:23:03.000 What about the apartment?

02:23:04.000 Oh, I see.

02:23:05.000 So I gave you that response.

02:23:05.000 I see.

02:23:07.000 The house and surrounding streets were searched and cordoned off by federal agents and bomb squads after the assassination attempt.

02:23:13.000 And investigators reported finding bomb making materials there.

02:23:17.000 Oh boy.

02:23:18.000 So, in case it didn't work out with the gun, he had a bomb?

02:23:22.000 Did he think he was going to make it off the roof?

02:23:24.000 I wonder what he thought. 0.86

02:23:25.000 Thought he'd shoot the president and just jump away. 0.96

02:23:28.000 No one's going to notice? 0.97

02:23:29.000 They've got snipers all over the place.

02:23:32.000 They took that guy out the moment he shot him.

02:23:34.000 I wonder if someone talked him into doing it and convinced him that they had a way to get him out of there.

02:23:40.000 Yeah, see, that's the scary thing, right?

02:23:41.000 The mind control.

02:23:41.000 Yeah.

02:23:43.000 Like you said, Especially if they're giving him drugs.

02:23:46.000 That's my point about the toxicology examination.

02:23:49.000 So, a lot of people were very concerned they cremated him right away.

02:23:52.000 Because if you got a hold of the toxicology examination and you found out that there were some drugs in there that they give people to influence them, like maybe he had LSD in his system, maybe he had something else, some other psychiatric medications in his system, that you would say, well, why was he given this?

02:24:09.000 Is this something that we've done when we're working on mind control experiments?

02:24:13.000 Have we given people these things?

02:24:15.000 Are we still doing that?

02:24:17.000 There was also metadata that connected a phone from D.C. to his house, from like Virginia, outside the FBI area, where the FBI offices are, back and forth to this guy's house multiple times.

02:24:31.000 Metadata from a phone.

02:24:32.000 Can't say whose phone.

02:24:33.000 Who knows?

02:24:34.000 Probably nothing.

02:24:36.000 I mean, who's also in a BlackRock commercial?

02:24:36.000 Don't they know?

02:24:38.000 If you want to find out whose phone that is, people could find out whose phone it is.

02:24:42.000 I would imagine.

02:24:43.000 Right.

02:24:43.000 Yeah, it's all weird.

02:24:45.000 Yeah.

02:24:45.000 It's not, I mean, look, there's probably a lot of people before the election that wanted Trump dead.

02:24:51.000 Fill in the blank who you think it might be, but most likely somebody got a kid to try to do it and he didn't pull it off, but he came close.

02:25:01.000 Scary man, and then there's the real dummies who think it's staged, which is so crazy.

02:25:06.000 Oh, that I've heard that I was hearing that. 0.98

02:25:09.000 They let him nick his ear with a bullet. 0.99

02:25:11.000 What do you know how dumb that sounds? 0.99

02:25:13.000 You have no idea about shooting things at distance, there's no way, like it's performative. 0.99

02:25:19.000 So, what there's not a fucking chance in hell that you can nick someone's ear with a bullet at that distance. 1.00

02:25:25.000 And be that accurate, you can easily blow half their fucking head off, you know? 1.00

02:25:30.000 And, like, what? 1.00

02:25:31.000 So, like, they're going to take that risk to put on that performative?

02:25:34.000 And what happens if they're going to kill the people behind them?

02:25:36.000 Oh, because someone got shot, right?

02:25:36.000 Yeah.

02:25:37.000 Yeah.

02:25:38.000 One guy died.

02:25:39.000 At least one person died.

02:25:40.000 Another guy got shot really badly.

02:25:41.000 And two other people, I think, are suing now.

02:25:43.000 They're suing the government for negligence because of that shooting.

02:25:47.000 Yeah, because they're permanently injured because they got shot.

02:25:50.000 Wow.

02:25:51.000 Yeah.

02:25:52.000 And the whole thing where the lady who was the head of the Secret Service was saying that they couldn't put anybody on that roof because the slope was too steep.

02:26:00.000 Like, what?

02:26:01.000 And that didn't even make sense because the slope of the building where the snipers were on was steeper.

02:26:07.000 Made no sense.

02:26:08.000 So it's almost like it was set up.

02:26:10.000 So that that kid could get up on that roof and take a shot.

02:26:14.000 I mean, look, it seems like the powers that be are pulling some strings.

02:26:19.000 That's all I'm saying.

02:26:20.000 You know what I mean?

02:26:20.000 Always.

02:26:21.000 They're pulling strings.

02:26:22.000 If you're not playing by their rules, if you're not kissing the ring, kind of Hollywood's the same way.

02:26:28.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

02:26:29.000 Hollywood is like, there's a lot of that bullshit. 1.00

02:26:31.000 There's a lot of that bullshit. 1.00

02:26:32.000 A lot of that, like, kiss the ring and things. 1.00

02:26:34.000 You're like, nah, I ain't going to do that.

02:26:37.000 You know?

02:26:37.000 Dang.

02:26:38.000 You know?

02:26:39.000 It's like, nah.

02:26:40.000 You let the, you know, it's like you said, how bad do you want to be Batman?

02:26:46.000 How bad do you want to be Batman?

02:26:48.000 If it costs me my soul, maybe I'm good.

02:26:52.000 Well, good for you, dude.

02:26:54.000 You've achieved a nice balance in your life and work relationship, and I think that's very important.

02:26:54.000 Good for you.

02:27:01.000 I always tell people, he's the normalest guy.

02:27:04.000 The normalest guy that's a movie star that I know.

02:27:07.000 Every time I've introduced you to people, they're like, who is he?

02:27:10.000 That's Scott Eastwood.

02:27:11.000 He's like, what?

02:27:12.000 That's Clint Eastwood, son?

02:27:15.000 He's so normal.

02:27:17.000 There's a lot of normal people, though.

02:27:18.000 There's some great ones.

02:27:19.000 Oh, yeah.

02:27:19.000 You know, they exist.

02:27:20.000 There's some great ones, but they're few and far between. 0.97

02:27:22.000 Dude, Matt Damon and Ben Affleck are fucking super normal. 0.96

02:27:25.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:27:25.000 They're like regular guys when you talk to them. 0.97

02:27:27.000 They manage to keep their, as hard as it is.

02:27:30.000 Yeah.

02:27:31.000 Keep whoever it is that's them.

02:27:33.000 They're still that.

02:27:34.000 So kudos to them.

02:27:34.000 Yeah.

02:27:36.000 Kudos to you.

02:27:37.000 And thanks for these vitamins.

02:27:39.000 Yeah, man.

02:27:39.000 I'm going to take them.

02:27:40.000 I'll tell you what's up.

02:27:41.000 Tell me what's up.

02:27:42.000 I'm going to tell you that too. 1.00

02:27:42.000 They suck. 1.00

02:27:43.000 I'm sure they're great. 1.00

02:27:44.000 I'm just kidding.

02:27:46.000 North Performance.

02:27:47.000 That's what it's called.

02:27:47.000 There we go, baby.

02:27:49.000 And your movie.

02:27:50.000 Lucky Strike out tomorrow.

02:27:51.000 Lucky Strike out tomorrow.

02:27:53.000 It's perfect timing.

02:27:53.000 Beautiful.

02:27:54.000 250 years.

02:27:56.000 Celebrate our veterans.

02:27:58.000 Yes, yes.

02:28:00.000 Good luck with that.

02:28:00.000 Thank you.

02:28:01.000 Congratulations on everything.

02:28:02.000 All right.

02:28:03.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - June 26, 2026

Joe Rogan Experience #2519 - Scott Eastwood

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