The Joe Rogan Experience - June 30, 2026


Joe Rogan Experience #2520 - Tommy Lee


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2 hours and 22 minutes

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24,232

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2,885

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Misogyny

52

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Toxicity

1,109

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Hate speech

57

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On this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, I sit down with my good friend Tommy Lee. Tommy is a drummer in the rock band Motley Crue. We talk about his life growing up in LA with a rock star father and how to deal with it.

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00:00:02.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
00:00:09.000 Are we up?
00:00:12.000 Are we rolling?
00:00:13.000 Thanks for the heads up so I'm not tripping later on.
00:00:16.000 Hey, dude.
00:00:18.000 Good to see you, man.
00:00:19.000 Yeah, good to see you, too.
00:00:20.000 What's cracking?
00:00:20.000 You got a diamond in your tooth?
00:00:21.000 Is that what's going on?
00:00:22.000 Yeah, that's nice.
00:00:23.000 Yeah, nice.
00:00:24.000 That's fun. 0.92
00:00:25.000 My friend Cam just got a gold tooth, and I was giving him a hard time, but then I was like, damn, I think I want one. 0.91
00:00:30.000 Yeah, yeah, you got to get one, dude. 0.94
00:00:32.000 Take it again, a gold tooth.
00:00:34.000 I have a cap on one of my, I had a root canal.
00:00:36.000 I'm going to cap out on one of them.
00:00:37.000 I think I'm going to swap it out for a gold tooth.
00:00:40.000 Do it.
00:00:40.000 Do it.
00:00:41.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:00:41.000 Fuck you. 1.00
00:00:42.000 Fuck you. 1.00
00:00:42.000 I got one back here somewhere. 1.00
00:00:45.000 It's just that little, like, I don't know, that little pirate thing starts to happen.
00:00:50.000 I know.
00:00:50.000 It's just a little outcasty.
00:00:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:00:54.000 So what's cracking, brother?
00:00:55.000 How are you doing?
00:00:56.000 I'm good, man.
00:00:59.000 I'm stoked to be here and see you.
00:01:01.000 Stoked to have you here.
00:01:03.000 Yeah, man. 1.00
00:01:04.000 Shit, I wish I was staying longer now. 0.99
00:01:07.000 But, uh, We'll make the best of how long you're staying. 0.99
00:01:10.000 How long you're in town for?
00:01:11.000 I'm leaving after right after this, after you, yeah.
00:01:14.000 Where you headed back home, LA?
00:01:17.000 Um, my son is getting married.
00:01:21.000 Oh, congratulations!
00:01:22.000 Thanks, thanks, which is such a trip, dude.
00:01:26.000 You know, like he's 29 and um, he's getting married, and I'm just I've been kind of tripping out on that, like, dude, where the did that time go, right?
00:01:39.000 I'm so fucking happy for him that he's been seeing this girl for seven years.
00:01:48.000 I'm so proud that he did exactly the opposite of his dad. 0.98
00:01:53.000 You know what I mean?
00:01:53.000 Right, right.
00:01:54.000 He knows, and they've been, basically, they've been married, you know.
00:02:00.000 And they're just making it official now.
00:02:03.000 And I'm just so happy for him.
00:02:05.000 I tell him all the time, so happy for you, dude.
00:02:08.000 Like, you know, you. 0.98
00:02:11.000 You use some patience and some love and like mix it all around and put some time in there, and you know, shit's like your survival rate is going to be way better, way better. 0.96
00:02:23.000 And that makes me really happy. 0.99
00:02:25.000 And your happiness rate, I think, if you're a kid and your dad is Tommy Lee and you've had such a fucking crazy, chaotic life, he's probably like, slow down, give me a fucking yard and a picket fence, and whoa, totally, totally. 0.71
00:02:39.000 That's why, like, in you know, in the drift of everything, I'm really surprised and I'm really happy he just like. 0.93
00:02:46.000 Pump the brakes.
00:02:47.000 That's awesome. 1.00
00:02:48.000 Just like make sure that what he's doing is the real shit. 0.99
00:02:52.000 Yeah, I mean, especially in LA with a rock star dad, it's like there's so many bad influences. 1.00
00:02:58.000 There's so many ways you could go where you could just ruin your fucking life. 0.98
00:03:02.000 It's so easy to ruin your life if you're in the wrong circles. 1.00
00:03:05.000 Dude.
00:03:06.000 So easy.
00:03:08.000 Because everybody else is doing it too.
00:03:08.000 Right?
00:03:10.000 You're like, hey, I guess we're doing meth.
00:03:11.000 Yeah, I know. 0.98
00:03:12.000 I'm fucking just, I mean, I know people that are good people that have fallen down that rabbit hole. 1.00
00:03:12.000 Fuck. 1.00
00:03:20.000 And they're not bad people. 1.00
00:03:22.000 They're not even stupid, man. 0.99
00:03:23.000 They just made a bad decision for whatever reason. 0.99
00:03:27.000 And then, next thing you know, they're all strung out.
00:03:31.000 And it's like LA is the hub of that.
00:03:34.000 There's so much of that going on in LA.
00:03:34.000 Yeah.
00:03:36.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:03:37.000 And if you have any sort of shit magnet attached to you, like, you know, the shady friends and the weird circles, you just kind of screw it. 1.00
00:03:49.000 Of course. 1.00
00:03:51.000 You're just fucking. 1.00
00:03:54.000 I mean, I don't live in the rock and roll world, but I think that's probably the most attractive to like crazy people. 1.00
00:04:00.000 Like that world. 1.00
00:04:01.000 That is the world where, if you're a fucking kook, like you gravitate towards that world, you know? 1.00
00:04:07.000 It's probably so hard to find like sane, balanced people that are, you know? 1.00
00:04:13.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:04:14.000 They have their shit together. 0.99
00:04:15.000 It's like, it's almost impossible. 0.99
00:04:16.000 So, like, you're just comparing yourself to the other chaotic people you're around. 0.99
00:04:21.000 And you're the fucking drummer in Motley Crue. 0.99
00:04:24.000 I mean, how are you supposed to be normal? 1.00
00:04:26.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 0.99
00:04:28.000 What kind of life is that? 1.00
00:04:29.000 That's such a bizarre life.
00:04:31.000 The craziest life of all time. 1.00
00:04:33.000 You're fucking slamming the drums on stage in front of literally a sea of human beings singing along to your music. 1.00
00:04:42.000 Nobody can understand that. 1.00
00:04:44.000 I know, man.
00:04:45.000 Yeah, they've seen it all.
00:04:48.000 They've seen it all.
00:04:48.000 I put them to work out on tour, you know, just so we could hang out and spend time.
00:04:55.000 They're like, you know, get them a radio.
00:04:59.000 All of a sudden, one of my sons is part of the lighting crew helping those guys.
00:05:04.000 My other son is like, all's he's worth.
00:05:06.000 All he wants to know about is like, Dad, I want to be in charge of all the after show passes. 1.00
00:05:12.000 I'll go out while you're playing and I'm going to hit all the chicks. 0.91
00:05:17.000 And like, my son is out there just stacking passes. 1.00
00:05:21.000 Come on back afterwards.
00:05:22.000 Come on back.
00:05:23.000 You know, and then watching him like have just running it, right?
00:05:29.000 It's just like brings a tear to my eye, man.
00:05:34.000 Oh, that's cool.
00:05:36.000 That's very cool.
00:05:37.000 When you look back, like, how much of a dream does it feel?
00:05:40.000 I mean, it's got to feel very bizarre that you, you know, every young guy who plays music wants to be in a gigantic band.
00:05:49.000 They all want to be rock stars.
00:05:51.000 And when it actually happens for you and then you're looking back on it, like, how fucking surreal does it all feel?
00:05:56.000 It's, dude, I pinch myself still daily, literally. 0.96
00:06:01.000 And I'm just fucking, I don't know, man. 0.78
00:06:05.000 I'm just lucky to be here. 0.94
00:06:08.000 I'm lucky I get to do this.
00:06:10.000 I always say to people, like, There's a couple of things that are involved with that whole thing.
00:06:15.000 There's some luck, some talent, timing of things. 0.97
00:06:23.000 When those things kind of all line up and it happens for you, and it just happens at fucking supersonic speeds where a lot of it's a fucking blur. 0.93
00:06:35.000 Like a ton of it's a blur where you have to have somebody else remind you. 0.99
00:06:39.000 You're like, oh shit, that's right. 0.99
00:06:41.000 I totally forgot we did that. 0.99
00:06:43.000 You know, like about crazy times.
00:06:45.000 Yeah.
00:06:46.000 Yeah, it's a trip, dude.
00:06:48.000 I spend a lot of time like hanging on.
00:06:53.000 Right. 1.00
00:06:54.000 Fuck. 1.00
00:06:55.000 Here we go. 1.00
00:06:56.000 Did you get a chance, like, when you were coming up to talk to any other rock stars?
00:07:00.000 Did anybody give you advice on how to handle things?
00:07:02.000 Like, how weird it's going to be?
00:07:04.000 No. 0.99
00:07:06.000 I'm trying to think of any sort of a mentor kind of dude on, like, how to survive the shit. 0.99
00:07:13.000 Like, no, pull Keith Richards aside and say, Hey, man, how about a few tips? 0.99
00:07:17.000 How'd you do this?
00:07:19.000 Are you still here, bro?
00:07:20.000 I saw them at CODA at the Circuit of the Americas a couple years back.
00:07:24.000 They were incredible, man.
00:07:26.000 Incredible, insane.
00:07:28.000 They're like, What is how old is Keith, dude?
00:07:31.000 Are they like 80?
00:07:33.000 He's gotta be.
00:07:33.000 Mick is like 80, bro.
00:07:35.000 Mick is moving around and dancing and singing, insane, dude.
00:07:40.000 And I'll let me tell you a fun, quick little story here.
00:07:45.000 Molly crew.
00:07:46.000 Gets to open up for the Rolling Stones. 0.98
00:07:49.000 This was on Halloween, I forget what fucking year, or at some stadium, I think it was Toronto. 0.98
00:07:56.000 We got to open for them, and we're so fucking pumped. 0.98
00:07:59.000 We're like, dude, are you kidding me? 0.98
00:08:02.000 We'll get the fucking do this. 0.97
00:08:05.000 Um, anyway, we play, we play our show back in the dressing room after we're done. 0.99
00:08:13.000 The Stones tour manager comes into the dressing room and goes, Tommy, I was like, yeah, it goes.
00:08:19.000 He goes, Mick and Ronnie Keith would like to see you, and I was like, Brad, I fucking head over there, and dude, this is 20 minutes before they're.
00:08:33.000 To go on, I go into their world and they got they bring a bartender around with them, so there's a guy set up just slinging drinks.
00:08:45.000 Uh, Mick isn't hammered, but Keith and Ronnie, dude, they were walking on their lips.
00:08:53.000 I'm talking shitty, like, hey, falling over with their guitars 20 minutes before they go on stage.
00:09:02.000 I'm like. 1.00
00:09:04.000 How are these guys gonna fuck? 1.00
00:09:05.000 There's no way they're playing. 0.99
00:09:07.000 I'm sorry.
00:09:09.000 There's no way. 0.96
00:09:10.000 No fucking way. 0.99
00:09:11.000 And all of a sudden, we took a couple of photos and it was like, let's go to the stage. 0.99
00:09:16.000 And I'm like, oh, I gotta see this.
00:09:17.000 I'm walking with them, right? 1.00
00:09:20.000 They get up there, fucking lights go out. 1.00
00:09:22.000 Boom. 1.00
00:09:23.000 They fucking, I think they started with Start Me Up. 1.00
00:09:30.000 And it was like a switch flipped. 1.00
00:09:34.000 All of a sudden, those guys were fucking money, like 100% fucking rocking out. 0.99
00:09:41.000 I was like, how did they just go? 0.99
00:09:42.000 They've been doing it for so long that they just, they're masters of the controls.
00:09:47.000 They're like, yeah. 0.99
00:09:48.000 Okay, I guess we can get this amount of fucked up and then we can go. 0.99
00:09:53.000 Like, it's okay. 0.98
00:09:54.000 I think some guys just.
00:09:55.000 That was a crazy level.
00:09:56.000 Like, I wish I saw that.
00:09:58.000 You could barely talk. 0.99
00:10:00.000 And then they went up there and fucking ripped it. 0.99
00:10:02.000 I wish I saw that. 1.00
00:10:04.000 Some guys just want to be fucked. 0.99
00:10:06.000 Up to just feel the experience, just to just ride it like a wild bull, yeah. 0.99
00:10:10.000 You know, just wherever you're at, yeah.
00:10:12.000 Some that's where some guys like to do it.
00:10:15.000 I mean, and rock, I don't have to tell you, rock and roll music is the heart of that.
00:10:19.000 That's where it really goes down.
00:10:21.000 Where a lot of guys like to get up before they play, yeah. 0.96
00:10:24.000 You know, you want to see something fucking inspirational? 0.94
00:10:27.000 I'm gonna show you something crazy. 0.98
00:10:28.000 Always, this is uh, have you seen Jamie?
00:10:32.000 Have you seen uh, Rick Springfield lately?
00:10:36.000 I did just see him and I think.
00:10:37.000 I was like, whoa, dude.
00:10:38.000 I'm going to send you a video and it's going to blow you away.
00:10:41.000 This is literally bananas.
00:10:43.000 This is Rick Springfield.
00:10:46.000 He's 76 years old, okay?
00:10:48.000 76.
00:10:51.000 And he's singing Jesse's Girl like he just wrote it.
00:10:54.000 Is this video right here? 1.00
00:10:55.000 And he's fucking. 0.99
00:10:57.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:10:57.000 Put the headphones on. 1.00
00:10:58.000 Bro.
00:10:59.000 Put the headphones on and back this up from the beginning.
00:11:01.000 I can't get the play.
00:11:04.000 Well, I just sent it to you on Instagram.
00:11:04.000 Whoa.
00:11:06.000 He's ripped.
00:11:07.000 I just can't get the.
00:11:08.000 Click on the other link then, the one that I sent you on Instagram. 0.91
00:11:14.000 Because you can't, first of all, he looks fucking incredible.
00:11:17.000 Like he's working out every day or something. 0.97
00:11:19.000 I mean, I don't even understand it.
00:11:20.000 He looks like a 30 year old guy.
00:11:21.000 Yeah.
00:11:22.000 And he's singing the song like he just wrote it.
00:11:27.000 Bro, 76.
00:11:28.000 I'm playing on it this year.
00:11:30.000 I'm a dog.
00:11:32.000 It all feels so dirty when it starts on the chute.
00:11:40.000 I'm gonna tell her that I love her but the point is right with me Yeah, dude.
00:11:53.000 That's crazy. 1.00
00:11:54.000 Fuck. 1.00
00:12:02.000 Amazing, man. 1.00
00:12:03.000 Amazing. 0.99
00:12:04.000 That's fucking inspirational, man. 0.99
00:12:06.000 Inspirational. 0.99
00:12:07.000 Bro.
00:12:08.000 76 years old.
00:12:08.000 And passion and enthusiasm is what kills me.
00:12:11.000 This is not a guy who's like just going out there and going through the motions.
00:12:15.000 He's singing that song like he just wrote it.
00:12:17.000 Yeah, totally. 1.00
00:12:18.000 Fuck yeah, Rick Springfield. 1.00
00:12:20.000 Yeah, good job, bro. 1.00
00:12:21.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
00:12:22.000 That's amazing. 1.00
00:12:23.000 I've been sending that to everybody.
00:12:23.000 Yeah.
00:12:25.000 I'm like, fuck yeah. 0.99
00:12:26.000 I saw that. 0.99
00:12:27.000 I saw that clip and I was like, whoa.
00:12:29.000 A lot of people when they're 76 are basically waiting to die. 0.99
00:12:32.000 This dude's on stage with no shirt on, fucking crushing life. 0.99
00:12:37.000 I love it. 0.99
00:12:37.000 I love it. 0.99
00:12:39.000 That's going to be me.
00:12:40.000 Still 10 years old. 1.00
00:12:42.000 Rocking shit. 1.00
00:12:42.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
00:12:43.000 Well, I remember in the 80s, there were no old rock stars.
00:12:47.000 Like, no one was out there touring that was an old rock star.
00:12:52.000 You're right.
00:12:52.000 You're right.
00:12:53.000 And then the Stones released a new album.
00:12:55.000 I think it was like 88 or 89.
00:12:58.000 And everybody was like, wow, they're going to tour again?
00:13:01.000 It was almost like, aren't they done with this?
00:13:03.000 Like, they're older now.
00:13:04.000 Yeah.
00:13:05.000 Then it started being a thing where a bunch of older guys would like go out on tour that hadn't been on tour in a while.
00:13:05.000 And.
00:13:12.000 And now it's no, and people are like, why are we retiring?
00:13:15.000 Like, why?
00:13:16.000 Why would I stop doing the most amazing thing that a human being ever gets to do?
00:13:20.000 Yeah, that you love to do.
00:13:22.000 Yeah.
00:13:22.000 No, let me stop doing that.
00:13:24.000 It was like a thing with hip hop artists, too.
00:13:27.000 They would get to an older age and people just didn't appreciate them anymore.
00:13:31.000 It's like it was like a young guy's game. 1.00
00:13:33.000 But now a lot of those older guys are going on tour, too, and people realize, oh, these guys are fucking dumb. 0.99
00:13:38.000 Like I saw Run DMC went on, or excuse me, Public Enemy went on with, I think it was Bruce Springsteen. 0.99
00:13:38.000 Dope. 0.99
00:13:47.000 I think Bruce Springsteen had them go up in one of his concerts. 0.99
00:13:49.000 I'm like, fuck yeah, look at these dudes. 0.99
00:13:51.000 They're killing it. 1.00
00:13:52.000 They're still getting after it.
00:13:54.000 That's the best, man.
00:13:55.000 You got to love that.
00:13:58.000 And I think that research, I don't know if you call it a resurgence, or just that style of like, there's certain things that were really great that have stood the test of time. 0.99
00:14:11.000 And I And I really think that the way shit is now, man, there is too fucking much. 0.98
00:14:21.000 Like, there's too much music. 0.99
00:14:23.000 Like, Spotify releases like 300 fucking thousand songs a day. 0.98
00:14:29.000 Really? 1.00
00:14:30.000 Who the fuck is listening to all this music, dude? 0.99
00:14:33.000 I'm in the business. 0.99
00:14:34.000 And if I can't keep up, how can a fan of music keep up?
00:14:37.000 So I just, I think that the excess of.
00:14:43.000 It's just static and it's really blown a hole through for, you know, original stuff, you know, really good stuff because a lot of the stuff is all kind of sounding the same now.
00:14:59.000 But I just, I think that it's been a cool progression that's sort of fueled that.
00:15:09.000 I don't know if I'm making sense.
00:15:10.000 I'm kind of getting it.
00:15:11.000 No, you're making sense.
00:15:11.000 You know what I'm trying to say?
00:15:13.000 There's so much static now that the sort of the.
00:15:19.000 Something has to be undeniable to break through.
00:15:21.000 The authentic stuff still fucking holds water big time. 0.99
00:15:27.000 Well, there's always like one song that all of a sudden resonates and just goes super viral because people listen to it and go, holy shit. 0.99
00:15:35.000 Yeah. 0.95
00:15:35.000 There's always going to be something that's exceptional. 0.95
00:15:38.000 But I do agree.
00:15:39.000 It's impossible.
00:15:39.000 There's a lot of great music that I don't know anything about.
00:15:42.000 And then someone turns me on to it and I'm like, how the fuck did I not know this guy? 0.80
00:15:45.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.96
00:15:46.000 And had your.
00:15:48.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:15:48.000 Not turned you on to that, you would never fucking know. 0.99
00:15:53.000 Well, there's no real radio anymore. 0.99
00:15:55.000 No.
00:15:56.000 Right?
00:15:56.000 So, how do you find out?
00:15:57.000 When I was a kid, when I was in high school, like, a new Motley Crue song came out, it was on the fucking radio. 0.98
00:16:04.000 Yeah, right. 0.97
00:16:04.000 And then you knew, all right, the new album's out. 0.97
00:16:06.000 Let's go get the new album.
00:16:07.000 Yeah.
00:16:07.000 And that was with every major band.
00:16:09.000 It was like, then you got MTV.
00:16:11.000 MTV came along.
00:16:13.000 Oh, the music video's out, the album's out.
00:16:15.000 But now it's like anyone can just put stuff up, you know, which is great.
00:16:21.000 Yeah, which is great.
00:16:22.000 But it's also, look, it's all overall positive because you have more artists and more people that are doing what they want to do.
00:16:29.000 Yeah, more people that are making music, which is awesome, but like it's the same thing with movies.
00:16:34.000 Can you imagine you had to watch every movie ever made?
00:16:36.000 You have to be a million years old, you'd never finish exactly.
00:16:41.000 It's not enough hours in the day, yeah.
00:16:43.000 It's the same, it's the same musically, uh, what's happening musically that's happening with everything, entertainment, yeah, yeah, films, television shows.
00:16:53.000 There's an abundance of like it's just too much.
00:16:58.000 How do how do people, I mean, people got these, you know, uh, You know, TV packages where they've got subscriptions at 4,000 different places, and you still can't find anything to watch.
00:17:13.000 You're like, what the fuck is happening here, everybody?
00:17:16.000 We got to like peel it back a little bit, make it a little easier here. 0.99
00:17:21.000 Well, there's so many options.
00:17:22.000 It's almost like dating apps, right? 0.53
00:17:24.000 Like, if someone, if some chick is chewing her food with her mouth up, being like, swipe.
00:17:30.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:17:30.000 Who's next? 0.99
00:17:31.000 Like, people get, they don't get a chance to know anybody.
00:17:33.000 And I think that's also the same thing with movies and TV shows. 0.99
00:17:36.000 Because if you're watching Netflix, if you get bored for three seconds, you're like, fuck this movie. 0.99
00:17:40.000 What else is on? 1.00
00:17:41.000 Bip, bip, bip.
00:17:42.000 Okay, try this one.
00:17:42.000 You know?
00:17:43.000 And you watch that for 10 minutes. 1.00
00:17:44.000 Not, fuck this. 0.99
00:17:45.000 I would like to see their numbers of like how long people actually watch a show or a movie on Netflix before they shut it off. 0.99
00:17:52.000 I bet it's way different than in the past.
00:17:54.000 I bet in the old days, most people watched the movie to the end.
00:17:58.000 Sure.
00:17:58.000 I bet now it's like 20%.
00:18:01.000 Oh, dude.
00:18:01.000 If that.
00:18:02.000 I'll bet, yeah.
00:18:03.000 I'm just going to say a little bit more.
00:18:04.000 If that, yeah.
00:18:06.000 It's a short attention span life right now.
00:18:07.000 It's very.
00:18:09.000 Very bad for you.
00:18:10.000 Sometimes you got to just take something in.
00:18:10.000 Yeah.
00:18:13.000 And that affects the people who create the stuff because you realize I'm dealing with a bunch of fucking six year olds here. 0.99
00:18:22.000 And if my shit isn't banging within the first, whether it's a movie or a song or whatever it is, whatever your art is, if it's not fucking ripping your face off and grabbing your attention within three or four seconds, you're next. 1.00
00:18:40.000 Next. 1.00
00:18:41.000 When that's just the world we're in.
00:18:41.000 Exactly.
00:18:43.000 So then that affects people who make the stuff because they really got to put the best shit up front quick or else you're going to lose everybody. 0.96
00:18:54.000 100%. 1.00
00:18:54.000 And that sucks. 1.00
00:18:56.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:18:57.000 They don't have to give in to that. 0.99
00:18:57.000 That sucks. 0.99
00:18:59.000 Nobody's got time for suspense or, you know, ah, fuck that. 1.00
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00:20:15.000 Well, think about some of the songs from the past that would never pass mustard today that are just amazing classics, like Whole Lot of Love.
00:20:21.000 So, Whole Lot of Love, you have a minute and a half fuck sounds with symbols. 0.58
00:20:26.000 Before it comes back to this insane guitar solo. 0.99
00:20:29.000 Yeah, you're right.
00:20:29.000 Right?
00:20:29.000 Yeah.
00:20:30.000 Like, you're like, ah, ah, ah.
00:20:34.000 It's like the most bizarre song ever.
00:20:36.000 Yeah.
00:20:36.000 Kind of drum solo y, kind of.
00:20:38.000 Yeah.
00:20:39.000 Off into nowhere.
00:20:41.000 And then classically, Freebird.
00:20:43.000 When Leonard Skyner released Freebird, they're like, no, no, no, this song takes way too long to get going.
00:20:48.000 It's so long.
00:20:49.000 It's like a seven minute song.
00:20:51.000 This is never going to fly. 0.99
00:20:53.000 Meanwhile, it's one of the greatest anthems in the history of the world and perhaps the greatest guitar solo in the history of the fucking human race. 0.98
00:21:00.000 Right. 0.99
00:21:00.000 Right. 0.99
00:21:01.000 Yeah.
00:21:01.000 You know?
00:21:01.000 Freebird, when that dude gets going, and you see it live, and everybody's fucking.
00:21:06.000 The whole fucking place is going off. 1.00
00:21:08.000 Going banana. 1.00
00:21:09.000 Some of the greatest guitar solos in the history of the fucking human race. 0.99
00:21:12.000 And their record company was like, it's too long. 0.99
00:21:15.000 Yeah.
00:21:15.000 People don't have any attention span for this, guys.
00:21:17.000 God, even back then, people were fucking hating. 0.97
00:21:20.000 Well, it's always the people that are the money people. 0.99
00:21:23.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:21:23.000 Because all they give a fuck about is money. 0.99
00:21:25.000 And you're in the creative side of it, and the money people are just pimping out the creative side of it. 1.00
00:21:30.000 And they're just trying to get you to suck as many dicks as they can because they want to buy a Rolls Royce. 1.00
00:21:35.000 So, like, come on, suck that dick. 1.00
00:21:38.000 Let's go. 1.00
00:21:39.000 And they don't give a fuck about you or your reputation because then they got fucking Nickelback over here and this guy over there. 0.99
00:21:45.000 And there's always a new band they could push and pimp. 0.99
00:21:48.000 And so they just want to make the maximum amount of money possible. 0.79
00:21:51.000 So they always have shitty advice because their advice is based on making money.
00:21:56.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.77
00:21:57.000 And for that reason, when we were on Electro Records, They were never allowed in the studio.
00:22:06.000 No one from the label.
00:22:07.000 That's awesome.
00:22:08.000 We allowed them once and he came in and started making like making changes or suggesting edits and stuff.
00:22:15.000 We're like, out, out.
00:22:19.000 Yeah.
00:22:19.000 You'll get it when it's done here.
00:22:21.000 Oh, God.
00:22:23.000 So gross. 0.66
00:22:24.000 Yeah, dude. 0.99
00:22:26.000 Here's some guy making those kind of calls who has no, not a musician, has no idea about what key the fucking song's in. 0.96
00:22:33.000 All he knows is it's too long. 0.98
00:22:35.000 Yeah.
00:22:36.000 And we've got to get to it quickly.
00:22:38.000 Well, it's these people that have ego for no real reason.
00:22:43.000 They're just kind of involved with other great creative people, and that's what they sell.
00:22:49.000 That's their business, they sell stuff that's awesome.
00:22:51.000 And somehow or another, they think it makes them awesome.
00:22:55.000 It's very weird. 0.96
00:22:56.000 Like, you know, Zach Bryan, he's got a great song called Damn Cold Vampires or Cold Damn Vampires. 0.99
00:23:03.000 It's a great fucking song about. 1.00
00:23:05.000 It's a fucking tongue twister. 1.00
00:23:06.000 It's a great fucking song. 1.00
00:23:07.000 It's about the music industry, and it's about these vampires. 1.00
00:23:11.000 That are just sucking blood out of these artists.
00:23:16.000 And it was a great song, a great line of the song, trying to make an empire of the things that you create.
00:23:23.000 They're making an empire from other people's work.
00:23:26.000 That's what they're doing.
00:23:27.000 But they somehow or another think that they're responsible and that they have an insight.
00:23:32.000 And they're, I'm good at my job, Tommy Lee.
00:23:34.000 And let me tell you something, kid, I know music.
00:23:37.000 And that drum solo, 14 seconds too long.
00:23:40.000 I'm going to tell you why.
00:23:42.000 I'm going to show you these statistics.
00:23:43.000 Yeah, that's what.
00:23:44.000 We got statistics.
00:23:44.000 We've got a guy.
00:23:45.000 We got the best guy, the best statistics guy.
00:23:48.000 He knows when people are. 0.98
00:23:49.000 And when they get to this fucking part of the drum solo, they tune out, Tommy. 0.99
00:23:53.000 We've got to stop them from tuning out. 0.99
00:23:55.000 Totally.
00:23:56.000 Because I want to get a CONUS egg. 0.99
00:23:57.000 I want to get one of them fucking $2 million cars. 0.99
00:24:01.000 These cunts, they exist in every walk of life where one person is like a creative type that's not business oriented, and you need a business person. 1.00
00:24:11.000 Yes. 0.97
00:24:12.000 So the business people come in because someone's got to sell it. 0.99
00:24:14.000 You're not going to fucking sell it. 0.99
00:24:15.000 What are you going to do? 0.99
00:24:16.000 You're going to make your own record company?
00:24:18.000 You're going to hire your own executives and do your own promotion? 1.00
00:24:20.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00
00:24:21.000 You can't. 1.00
00:24:22.000 So they come along and they get involved and they fuck it all up. 0.91
00:24:26.000 Yeah. 0.51
00:24:27.000 And how many guys have listened to them and ruined their careers because they listened to them?
00:24:31.000 Oh, man.
00:24:32.000 Do you know the Billy Squire story?
00:24:36.000 So, Billy Squire.
00:24:37.000 Just remind me because I think I know. 1.00
00:24:38.000 Billy Squire was the shit when I was in high school. 0.99
00:24:42.000 He had that song, Lonely as the Night. 1.00
00:24:43.000 Oh, my God.
00:24:45.000 I love Billy Squire.
00:24:46.000 Dude, The Stroke.
00:24:47.000 He was fantastic.
00:24:49.000 And he did one music video where it was like very effeminate.
00:24:55.000 It was like really weird.
00:24:57.000 Oh, was it when he was in his pajamas or something?
00:24:59.000 It was really weird.
00:25:01.000 Yeah.
00:25:01.000 And everybody was like, nope.
00:25:03.000 Yeah, what is he doing?
00:25:04.000 Yeah, it was really weird.
00:25:06.000 And to this day, I don't know if that was his idea or somebody else's idea.
00:25:10.000 They just took a wild chance.
00:25:11.000 Yeah.
00:25:12.000 I don't know.
00:25:13.000 No one knows.
00:25:14.000 Pray to God it was his idea.
00:25:16.000 Because at least, like, he's creative, made a creative decision, didn't work out, whatever.
00:25:20.000 Yeah, fine.
00:25:21.000 But if someone tanked his career because they wanted him to act feminine in a song, it was like very.
00:25:30.000 The reaction was crazy because. 0.94
00:25:33.000 This guy was like a sex symbol. 0.99
00:25:35.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:25:35.000 He was like, you know, shirt down to his, you know, open up down to his pants and fucking shit. 1.00
00:25:40.000 He was a bad motherfucker on stage. 1.00
00:25:42.000 He sang his ass off. 1.00
00:25:43.000 Yeah. 0.82
00:25:43.000 He's a star. 0.82
00:25:44.000 One music video tanked him.
00:25:47.000 I think it was My Kanda Lover.
00:25:49.000 I think that was the song where.
00:25:51.000 See if you can find what the video was.
00:25:53.000 This is it.
00:25:54.000 This is a documentary someone made on Facebook, I found.
00:25:58.000 About it?
00:25:58.000 About this whole thing, yeah.
00:25:59.000 Yeah, this is it, dude.
00:26:01.000 Yeah, so it was very weird.
00:26:03.000 What song is it?
00:26:04.000 Can you hear?
00:26:05.000 I will.
00:26:06.000 Yeah, we're going to have to cut it up, though.
00:26:09.000 So it was somebody else's idea?
00:26:11.000 Is that guy with the face?
00:26:12.000 That guy with the face looks like the guy that would tell you.
00:26:17.000 Yeah, he's crawling around on his knees and his hands and his knees.
00:26:21.000 It was weird.
00:26:21.000 Yeah.
00:26:23.000 It was very weird. 1.00
00:26:24.000 Fuck, what song was this? 1.00
00:26:26.000 You know, like, if he was like, look at this. 1.00
00:26:29.000 Look at him skipping around.
00:26:31.000 It was a very odd.
00:26:32.000 That guy.
00:26:33.000 That seems like the type of guy that would give you the bad advice.
00:26:35.000 Something Me Tonight.
00:26:37.000 It's the name of the song.
00:26:38.000 I want to. 1.00
00:26:39.000 Fuck. 1.00
00:26:40.000 I don't know. 1.00
00:26:40.000 I'll look up this. 1.00
00:26:41.000 Not familiar with that title.
00:26:42.000 Yeah, I don't know either.
00:26:43.000 But I know.
00:26:44.000 Yeah, I got it.
00:26:45.000 I remember that.
00:26:45.000 And everybody's like, nope.
00:26:47.000 Yeah.
00:26:48.000 That's a rap. 0.99
00:26:49.000 And that guy should have had like fucking 50 giant albums. 0.98
00:26:53.000 That guy was amazing. 0.98
00:26:54.000 Yeah.
00:26:55.000 Such an incredible singer, man.
00:26:57.000 So round.
00:26:58.000 Rock Me Tonight, 1984.
00:27:01.000 Oh.
00:27:05.000 Yeah, we'll cut that part out.
00:27:06.000 But you can see him dancing around.
00:27:08.000 Like, look at this.
00:27:09.000 Yeah.
00:27:09.000 Don't do that, buddy.
00:27:11.000 What is this?
00:27:12.000 He's like, yeah, what?
00:27:14.000 Don't do that.
00:27:15.000 Yeah, we need you on the ground, swarming around.
00:27:17.000 Hopefully, it was his idea.
00:27:19.000 Yeah, and he was just, my God, if this was somebody else's idea, I want you to be looser.
00:27:24.000 I want you to be looser.
00:27:25.000 I want you to be more free.
00:27:27.000 I want you to be like, I want to feel it.
00:27:30.000 I want to feel your vulnerable side.
00:27:33.000 I want you on your hands and knees. 0.99
00:27:35.000 I want you crawling.
00:27:36.000 This is what I want you to do.
00:27:38.000 I want you like this. 0.87
00:27:39.000 Like you barely can crawl.
00:27:41.000 Like you're having a hard time crawling. 1.00
00:27:42.000 That's what girls like. 0.98
00:27:44.000 Girls like a guy who struggles to crawl. 0.91
00:27:46.000 Yes, dude. 0.99
00:27:47.000 Oh, my God. 1.00
00:27:50.000 What the fuck did you do to him? 1.00
00:27:52.000 Oh, my God. 1.00
00:27:52.000 What did you do to him? 1.00
00:27:54.000 I know.
00:27:55.000 I hope it was his idea.
00:27:57.000 Despite its major success, the song is sometimes associated with the end of his career as a singles musician due to the music video, which was described as one of the worst ever in a 2011 book, I Want My MTV The Uncensored Story of the Music Video Revolution.
00:28:12.000 Wow.
00:28:13.000 It shows Squire dancing around in a bed with pastel colored satin sheets and wearing a pink tank top.
00:28:19.000 Squire's concert ticket sales immediately declined, and he later fired his managers.
00:28:25.000 He has accused Ortega of deceiving him and altering his original concept, which Ortega denies, while Squire remains steadfast.
00:28:31.000 The video was solely responsible for the initial decline of his popularity.
00:28:35.000 Other commentators are less certain.
00:28:37.000 Well, I'm pretty certain.
00:28:40.000 I remember it. 1.00
00:28:40.000 I remember kids in high school going, What the fuck, bro? 1.00
00:28:43.000 What the fuck is Billy Squire doing, bro? 1.00
00:28:46.000 That's just gay, bro. 1.00
00:28:47.000 Because Billy Squire was the man. 0.98
00:28:50.000 I mean, he could have been another John Mellencamp.
00:28:54.000 He could have gone on forever.
00:28:56.000 For sure. 1.00
00:28:56.000 Like, what the fuck, dude? 1.00
00:28:58.000 84, one song, one music video. 1.00
00:29:02.000 Insane.
00:29:03.000 That is really crazy if you think about it.
00:29:05.000 Yeah.
00:29:06.000 It's nuts.
00:29:07.000 It's nuts.
00:29:08.000 Well, that's the craziest thing about we think about the success of Motley Crue and bands from your era.
00:29:14.000 The fact that you guys endured for so long, like, still to this day.
00:29:20.000 Bro, if I'm working out in the gym and Kickstart my heart comes on, I swear to God, I get stronger.
00:29:27.000 The biggest.
00:29:31.000 You get pumped, man.
00:29:34.000 That song's a drug. 0.99
00:29:35.000 Yeah, that one, man, I can't tell you how fun, how rewarding that is to sit back and, like, I don't know, the Super Bowl's on and the fucking kickoff. 0.98
00:29:50.000 We got to cut it out, but I want to hear it. 0.96
00:29:51.000 Throw Kickstart My Heart on.
00:29:53.000 We'll cut it. 0.98
00:29:53.000 We have to cut it out for YouTube, otherwise, we'll get docked with the fucking money people coming involved. 0.98
00:30:00.000 Meanwhile, we're just promoting music, goddammit, with Tommy Lee, you motherfuckers. 1.00
00:30:04.000 Yeah, right? 1.00
00:30:05.000 But this fucking hero. 1.00
00:30:06.000 This fucking song. 1.00
00:30:07.000 Oh, is this live? 1.00
00:30:08.000 Don't give me the live one.
00:30:09.000 Give me the actual one.
00:30:11.000 Bro, that was one of the most American songs that's ever been made.
00:30:14.000 Ever.
00:30:15.000 Ever.
00:30:16.000 That song is fuel.
00:30:18.000 You know? 1.00
00:30:19.000 That song is fucking fuel. 1.00
00:30:20.000 If you were running in a race and you're thinking about quitting and that song comes on your headphones, you're like, let's fucking go. 1.00
00:30:26.000 Let's fucking go. 0.99
00:30:27.000 You know? 0.99
00:30:29.000 Like, songs like that, they really do give you energy.
00:30:32.000 They really are like a drug.
00:30:34.000 Yeah, they're definitely, they're injected.
00:30:39.000 Yeah, like changes your state, you know?
00:30:41.000 I love that one. 0.97
00:30:42.000 Isn't that fucking wild, the power that music has? 0.96
00:30:45.000 Like the Reich kind of song, you know, everybody's different, but there's nothing better than like, like I get goosebumps, bro, with something comes along that just, and it gets inside you. 0.98
00:31:00.000 Yeah.
00:31:00.000 It's fucking infectious, and all of a sudden you're like, dude, it's taking over my whole body.
00:31:05.000 I'm fucking tingling. 0.99
00:31:06.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:31:07.000 Hair's standing up.
00:31:09.000 And you're like, what is that?
00:31:10.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:31:11.000 What the fuck is that? 0.99
00:31:12.000 Like, I want to fucking bottle that up and try to recreate whatever that is. 0.99
00:31:17.000 Yeah, it's just an encapsulation of emotion with sound frequencies that just changes your physical state. 0.92
00:31:25.000 It does something to you that's like, it's one of the most amazing creations that human beings have ever done.
00:31:33.000 One of the most amazing accomplishments that human beings have ever done is just to make incredible music.
00:31:38.000 Because it's one of the things that it affects us in a way that.
00:31:41.000 Like nothing else.
00:31:43.000 And you can hear them over and over and over and over again.
00:31:46.000 Like a great joke is awesome the first time, but after you hear it the second time, it loses a little of its power.
00:31:51.000 The third time it gets a little boring.
00:31:54.000 A great song, I could listen to that.
00:31:57.000 Sometimes when I'm working out, I just put something on repeat.
00:31:59.000 I'm like, oh, I just want to hear this song, one song over and over and over again. 0.99
00:32:02.000 Just wear the fucker out. 1.00
00:32:03.000 Yeah, wear that fucker out. 1.00
00:32:04.000 I don't care. 1.00
00:32:05.000 It's so good. 0.99
00:32:06.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.99
00:32:07.000 I just want to feel it. 0.99
00:32:08.000 It's so fucking good. 0.96
00:32:09.000 Go. 1.00
00:32:09.000 And every time it comes back on, fuck yeah. 1.00
00:32:12.000 And we're back. 0.99
00:32:13.000 You know, it's like it changes the frequency of your actual soul.
00:32:19.000 Your body gets moved by it.
00:32:19.000 Yes.
00:32:22.000 You feel different. 1.00
00:32:23.000 You, I want to ask you a question because you're into all this fucking crazy shit. 0.99
00:32:30.000 I saw somewhere recently, and this just goes along with that feeling, that euphoric feeling you get when the right notes or frequencies hit you. 1.00
00:32:42.000 I saw that through sound, certain frequencies, like some dude in China, some doctor in China, or is it Japan, is this close to healing fucking cancer through. 0.86
00:32:58.000 Through sound, through frequency. 0.98
00:33:00.000 Really?
00:33:01.000 Have you?
00:33:01.000 No, I haven't heard that.
00:33:02.000 Have you seen any of this?
00:33:03.000 I haven't seen it, but I wouldn't be surprised.
00:33:05.000 I wouldn't either because, you know, it just fascinates me because there is those frequencies out there that you know about them 432, 432 hertz.
00:33:16.000 You heard about that stuff?
00:33:19.000 Explain to people so that.
00:33:20.000 Well, it's just.
00:33:23.000 There's some weird, what do you call it, conspiracy theories about.
00:33:29.000 Originally.
00:33:31.000 Our music, like Bach Beethoven, back in those days, was tuned to 432 hertz and and this is the conspiracy part about it at some point and people say, Hitler changed the, the tuning, the pitch of music, and now everything was raised to 440 instead of,
00:34:01.000 You know, 432 instead of 432, now it's at 440.
00:34:07.000 It's up and it's in the frequency is more aggressive. 0.95
00:34:11.000 And it was said that it was done to give the soldiers more fucking, you know, angst and you crank this music. 0.95
00:34:20.000 Well, they were also given a meth, excuse me. 0.98
00:34:22.000 They were also given the meth between meth and kickstart my heart. 0.99
00:34:26.000 Fucking so much of the Nazis at kickstart my heart would have been a real problem, dude. 0.99
00:34:30.000 No, no, kickstart my heart in German, yeah. 1.00
00:34:34.000 Oh, my Lord. 0.98
00:34:35.000 Yeah, that would have been a real problem.
00:34:36.000 I'm just curious because I know that you're into that kind of stuff.
00:34:40.000 If any sound therapy or healing through frequencies, if you've heard any of that stuff.
00:34:47.000 Well, I know people do sound baths where they'll do these meditation experiments where they lie on their back and they have someone that is making sounds.
00:34:55.000 And there's something to it.
00:34:58.000 Just think about what we were saying with Kickstart My Heart.
00:35:02.000 It changes your feeling.
00:35:05.000 It gives you more energy.
00:35:06.000 It really does.
00:35:07.000 So, obviously, sound has a profound effect on the human body.
00:35:11.000 And it's not just like you.
00:35:14.000 There's a lot of aspects to a great song, right?
00:35:16.000 It's the sound, it's also the messaging that's in the lyrics.
00:35:19.000 It's like there's a lot going on. 0.95
00:35:21.000 The voice of the singer, the visuals of everybody fucking rocking out on stage. 0.97
00:35:25.000 Sure. 0.94
00:35:26.000 That also contributes to it, but the actual sound itself is affecting your body in a very profound way.
00:35:32.000 And I wouldn't be surprised that there's ways that sound could provide therapeutic.
00:35:37.000 Therapeutic benefits to people that are injured, that are healing, sickness. 0.87
00:35:42.000 I mean, if you were lying in a hospital bed and you felt like shit because you just had surgery, but you're listening to some dope music, wouldn't that be better than just listening to people moan in the next room? 0.92
00:35:42.000 I'm sure. 0.92
00:35:53.000 Like, ugh.
00:35:54.000 Wait. 1.00
00:35:54.000 Fuck, get me out of here. 1.00
00:35:56.000 Yeah, you're inputting something nice. 1.00
00:35:59.000 Should be a part of your recovery.
00:36:01.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:36:01.000 Getting positive vibes in, getting things that give you good feeling and good energy.
00:36:07.000 I do that all the time, man.
00:36:08.000 I'll sit at home.
00:36:10.000 You know, when you're in the mood to not really listen to music, but.
00:36:16.000 Hear music where it's just playing in the background, and I'll just put there's these YouTube videos of these beautiful Japanese gardens in Kyoto or whatever, and there's like high def shots of these just beautiful, you know, bonsai trees, koi ponds, big Niwaki bonsai, like, and it's just so chill.
00:36:42.000 And with that music, and I just put it on, it's kind of on a lot, actually, and I find myself that's where I go to like.
00:36:50.000 Just like, I don't know.
00:36:52.000 Yeah, it puts you in a different state.
00:36:53.000 It puts me in a different space, you know?
00:36:55.000 Yeah.
00:36:56.000 I dig it, man.
00:36:57.000 You got really into bonsai.
00:36:59.000 Yeah, dude.
00:37:00.000 How did that start?
00:37:03.000 All the times that we've gone to Japan, every time I went there, I always went to the Japanese gardens or the temples.
00:37:12.000 And I'd walk around and just be like, my jaw on the floor.
00:37:16.000 Like, I've never seen anything this fucking peaceful and beautiful and.
00:37:22.000 Just like, I don't know, it just came over this feeling that every time I went, I came over me and I just started studying it. 0.57
00:37:30.000 This is like eight years ago.
00:37:33.000 I was like, I need this in my life somehow.
00:37:36.000 I don't know what this is, but let me go down, you know, down the tube here and figure out what that is and how I can get some of this into my life. 0.90
00:37:45.000 And I found some fucking videos on doing bonsai work on trees and I started and I haven't stopped. 0.93
00:37:53.000 And it's been, hands down, the coolest fucking thing I've ever gotten into. 0.97
00:37:58.000 Man, like I'll be out there for hours every day, like I'll start my day just being with nature and being with the trees that I'm working on, and I got like a workshop dude, it's like a. 0.97
00:38:11.000 There's like in progress works on the bench, there's other ones I'm bending, there's ones that I'm, you know, treating for pests.
00:38:23.000 You know It's a whole world, wiring everything, training it to where you want to go, pruning.
00:38:31.000 It lets me escape everything for a couple of hours.
00:38:36.000 I just, I don't know, man.
00:38:38.000 I just check out.
00:38:40.000 How many years have you been doing this now?
00:38:41.000 I've been, probably eight years now I've been doing it.
00:38:44.000 Eight years. 0.99
00:38:45.000 And so is a bonsai tree a regular tree that would grow big if you didn't fuck with it? 1.00
00:38:53.000 Yes, yes. 0.99
00:38:54.000 Okay, and then you can get it to this incredible, beautiful, artistic shape.
00:38:58.000 Years.
00:38:59.000 It's small.
00:39:00.000 Yes, it's what you're basically, you keep kind of dwarfing it.
00:39:05.000 And everybody gets this confused.
00:39:08.000 And they just think bonsai is like, that's the tree.
00:39:13.000 Bonsai means tree and pot.
00:39:17.000 That's what that means, actually.
00:39:19.000 It doesn't mean the actual bonsai tree.
00:39:21.000 It means tree and pot.
00:39:22.000 How long has the study of bonsai, how long has the practice been around?
00:39:26.000 Dude, I have no idea. 1.00
00:39:30.000 And you find that other parts of the world, now that you get into it, I mean, there's in Taiwan and China, there are some fucking insane bonsai. 1.00
00:39:39.000 And I think it actually originated in China. 0.97
00:39:42.000 And the Japanese took it and altered it in ways and did it sort of their version. 0.67
00:39:47.000 But I think it originated in China, if I'm not mistaken.
00:39:51.000 Something like that, yeah. 0.59
00:39:53.000 Sixth century China. 1.00
00:39:54.000 And then they brought it back. 1.00
00:39:55.000 Yeah.
00:39:56.000 Bam.
00:39:56.000 Ah, see?
00:39:56.000 Look at that.
00:39:57.000 Fuck, dude. 1.00
00:39:58.000 Wow. 1.00
00:39:59.000 Fucking Wiki Lee over here. 0.99
00:40:02.000 So don't you have a tree that's 300 years old? 0.99
00:40:05.000 Yes, I do.
00:40:06.000 Over 300.
00:40:08.000 I have two of them that are over 300 years old.
00:40:11.000 So, someone was working on them over 300 years ago.
00:40:16.000 Well, either that or it was collected maybe 100 years ago, and then over that time, it's just constantly been, you know, cut back and cut back.
00:40:27.000 Like what you'll do.
00:40:28.000 But it's a part of a tree that's 300 years ago.
00:40:31.000 Yeah, it's still the same tree.
00:40:33.000 Right.
00:40:34.000 But it's just, it's never been, it's always getting its roots cut.
00:40:38.000 Is that it?
00:40:39.000 Is that your tree, the 300 year old tree?
00:40:41.000 No, no, no.
00:40:42.000 That's just a.
00:40:43.000 That's just a small juniper that I have.
00:40:46.000 It's beautiful.
00:40:47.000 The 300 year old one is a redwood. 0.96
00:40:51.000 It's fucking trunk on it, it's like this, and it's smashed into a pot about this big. 0.98
00:40:58.000 That seems rude. 0.99
00:40:59.000 It's about that way.
00:41:01.000 For redwood, that seems rude. 0.97
00:41:02.000 Because if you go to like Northern California and you go to the redwood forest, they're fucking spectacular. 0.95
00:41:08.000 Those things are wild. 0.88
00:41:10.000 That redwood forest is so incredible.
00:41:10.000 Insane.
00:41:12.000 There's the one that you drive through.
00:41:14.000 Yeah.
00:41:15.000 Yes.
00:41:16.000 They cut a hole in it in like the 1920s or whatever. 1.00
00:41:19.000 It's really fucked. 0.99
00:41:20.000 I can't believe they did that. 1.00
00:41:21.000 But the tree's still alive, and you drive through the tree.
00:41:25.000 It's so crazy.
00:41:27.000 That was cool too.
00:41:28.000 Yeah, that one I showed not too long ago in an exhibition.
00:41:33.000 Oh, so you go to bonsai shows?
00:41:35.000 Yeah, I just started entering some of my trees that I've been working on.
00:41:40.000 I've done two so far.
00:41:42.000 Just now, like just this year, Entered a couple of trees.
00:41:46.000 That's awesome.
00:41:47.000 The rest of these other seven years or eight years of practicing is just learning, you know?
00:41:53.000 What a cool hobby. 0.93
00:41:54.000 Yeah, it's fucking rad, dude. 0.97
00:41:56.000 It really is. 0.96
00:41:56.000 It's also like the complete opposite of being a rock star. 0.96
00:42:00.000 Totally.
00:42:02.000 Like what a great balancing tool, you know?
00:42:06.000 I know, man.
00:42:07.000 It's interesting because a lot of, you know, my peers, musical buddies, like, they're all of them are super interested.
00:42:16.000 They're like, dude, what's up with the bonsai?
00:42:18.000 Like, I. Like they're curious, they want to know, yeah, because maybe they've seen me, you know, maybe change a little bit over the years, or they've seen how much joy it brings me, and they're like, Yeah, I think I want some of that.
00:42:31.000 I'm not sure where there's something about like a Zen garden that you associate with like bonsai and peacefulness and clarity, yes, you know, just peace of mind, yeah, just clean mind, like your mind is pure, you're like, you're really in the moment rather than just. 0.97
00:42:49.000 Being a fucking mess ordering Uber Eats. 0.90
00:42:53.000 You know what I mean? 1.00
00:42:53.000 Yeah, dude. 1.00
00:42:54.000 It's like there's something that's very spiritually attractive to people about those practices.
00:42:59.000 Yes, and that's it too.
00:43:02.000 It really has a lot to do with sort of the culture of all of it. 0.99
00:43:07.000 Like when you start going down that hole about design and all that stuff, you start to realize that everything that at least the Japanese do is with such fucking purpose. 0.99
00:43:21.000 Like you'll notice in And I didn't notice this stuff until later. 1.00
00:43:25.000 I was like, oh, I get it now.
00:43:28.000 There's serious rules about how they build a Zen garden.
00:43:32.000 You'll never find a straight path, ever.
00:43:37.000 I don't care how far you look, you'll never find a straight path going through a Zen garden.
00:43:43.000 They specifically and strategically curve the path to slow you down. 0.98
00:43:49.000 When you get, when you get, when soon as you walk into a garden, the number one objective is to get you to slow the fuck down.
00:44:00.000 And there's no straight path and everything, you don't, nothing becomes revealed to you until you come around that corner.
00:44:09.000 So you're always, even if you're going across a lake or a pond, there's never a straight, very rarely a straight bridge.
00:44:18.000 It's either arced or the bridge zigzags across.
00:44:25.000 There's never a straight line. 0.90
00:44:28.000 And what that's meant to do is get you to stop at each corner and look out and just take it in and fucking be present. 0.81
00:44:37.000 And that's, to me, It's like that's the deeper meaning of all this for me. 0.95
00:44:43.000 It's really got me to slow the fuck down because everything is just kind of right all the time.
00:44:51.000 So, you know, that it's just I get I don't know how to explain it something. 0.79
00:44:59.000 It's hard to explain that state, but that's what I that's what I get from it.
00:45:04.000 And every day it's the best way to start start your day, man. 0.87
00:45:07.000 It can only get fucking amazing after that because.
00:45:12.000 You're you kind of set yourself up for having a super rad day, like, I do know what I mean.
00:45:18.000 Like, yeah, yeah, like I'm good, let's go, right?
00:45:21.000 Well, it makes sense.
00:45:22.000 I mean, there's something about those zen gardens that's so attractive to people, yeah.
00:45:26.000 It's obvious there's something going on with that design, with that flow of nature and the way it's artistically pieced together.
00:45:33.000 It's very exciting to people, and you see it, man.
00:45:37.000 I don't know if you've noticed, I'm you had to notice, you see it in a lot of the like newer architecture, a lot of the designs and homes are being built with that. 0.83
00:45:47.000 Sort of very minimal Japanese flavor that is just meant to have your home be a peaceful place and not like a fucking museum or this or that. 0.90
00:45:58.000 Right. 0.98
00:45:59.000 It's really.
00:46:01.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:46:02.000 Yeah, it's more peaceful in the actual design itself versus like some house with big giant ass fucking windows overlooking the big city and fucking rocks everywhere and like, oh, slow down. 0.99
00:46:16.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99
00:46:17.000 And I've had that.
00:46:18.000 I've done that before with the house on the top of the hill with the views.
00:46:21.000 And I mean, the view is just kind of a view.
00:46:24.000 It doesn't really do anything.
00:46:26.000 It's very different than having a beautiful, winding sanctuary to cruise through.
00:46:36.000 I think nature is very therapeutic.
00:46:37.000 And if you can put nature in an artistic form like a zen garden, it's very therapeutic.
00:46:43.000 That's a way better view.
00:46:44.000 The view of nature is always a way.
00:46:47.000 Look.
00:46:48.000 Whenever I go to New York City and I'm staying in a hotel and I'm in the middle and you'll see all the buildings, like, wow, this is crazy in the center of it. 1.00
00:46:54.000 This is fucking dope. 0.98
00:46:56.000 But I don't want to live there. 1.00
00:46:58.000 Right, right.
00:46:58.000 I like to visit, but I don't think it's good for me, at least.
00:47:02.000 I don't think it's good for my headspace to live there.
00:47:04.000 I like to see trees.
00:47:06.000 I like to see nature.
00:47:06.000 Yes.
00:47:07.000 I like to see green.
00:47:08.000 I like to see things that are alive.
00:47:10.000 That makes me feel better.
00:47:11.000 Yeah.
00:47:11.000 You know, it's funny, dude.
00:47:12.000 I tell people, I think I was a fucking tree, like in a past life, because I'm like, maybe you were a tree too. 0.98
00:47:21.000 Like, I. 0.99
00:47:21.000 I'm like you. 0.99
00:47:23.000 I don't know if you're like this gnarly about it, but every time I go into a city, the first thing I look at is the trees.
00:47:33.000 Like, whether it's a big city or wherever, I'll find the tree because that's the first thing I'm looking for.
00:47:39.000 I don't look at the buildings.
00:47:41.000 I don't look, you know, up or down.
00:47:45.000 I'm always like looking for the tree.
00:47:48.000 Yeah.
00:47:48.000 It's just, I don't know, man.
00:47:50.000 Well, human beings are very connected to plants or they're very connected to nature, period.
00:47:53.000 It's one of the most brilliant things that the designers of New York City did make Central Park.
00:47:59.000 Have that giant park.
00:47:59.000 Ah.
00:48:01.000 It's an enormous park in the center of the city.
00:48:03.000 I was staying at a hotel last year and it was like on the edge of the park.
00:48:06.000 And like from the window, you look out, you see the whole park like straight. 0.57
00:48:10.000 This is fucking incredible that they did that because it's so big and it's just trees. 0.75
00:48:10.000 Oh, nice. 0.75
00:48:16.000 It's just trees and paths and little lakes and everything.
00:48:19.000 And go wander around. 0.85
00:48:21.000 Like, hey, get the fuck out of these buildings for a while. 0.95
00:48:23.000 And it's like for a person living in New York City, having that right there in the center is gigantic.
00:48:30.000 I don't know what percentage of people take advantage of it, but they should all.
00:48:33.000 It would make them all better.
00:48:35.000 It would all feel better.
00:48:36.000 It's a little center retreat, man.
00:48:38.000 Wow, an amazing one. 0.99
00:48:40.000 It's fucking huge. 0.99
00:48:40.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:48:41.000 Like, how many acres is Central Park?
00:48:44.000 Let's find that out.
00:48:45.000 Let's guess.
00:48:46.000 I'm going to guess.
00:48:47.000 A thousand acres?
00:48:51.000 If I had a guess, maybe 2,000 acres?
00:48:54.000 How big is it?
00:48:57.000 843.
00:48:57.000 843 acres.
00:48:57.000 Yeah.
00:48:59.000 So it's this amazing, huge park in the center of the biggest city in the world. 0.98
00:49:05.000 And you see all these giant, crazy fucking buildings, and then. 0.98
00:49:08.000 None of them in the center. 0.99
00:49:10.000 It's beautiful. 0.98
00:49:11.000 Fucking props to those people or whoever that didn't sell that space. 1.00
00:49:16.000 How many fucking vampires are trying to take over that and put a big shitty ass building in the middle of it? 1.00
00:49:22.000 We don't need 800 acres, 500 acres. 1.00
00:49:24.000 That's plenty.
00:49:25.000 Plenty, plenty, plenty.
00:49:27.000 We'll just make those 500 acres even better and no one's going to complain. 0.99
00:49:30.000 Put a whole bunch of money in the fucking. 0.99
00:49:30.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:49:32.000 Yeah, hats off to whoever.
00:49:33.000 Let them listen.
00:49:34.000 Whatever we're going to do.
00:49:35.000 Whoever held that down can go for them, man.
00:49:38.000 They've lost a few parks.
00:49:39.000 That's one of our shows that we do with.
00:49:41.000 Ari Shafir, Shane Gillis, and Mark Norman is Protect Our Parks.
00:49:45.000 Oh.
00:49:45.000 But we're not really protecting parks.
00:49:47.000 We're just getting drunk and talking shit. 0.97
00:49:49.000 But it's called Protect Our Parks because Ari, on one of the early episodes, was ranting and raving about they're going to fucking take down this park and turn it into apartment buildings, and they wound up doing it. 0.99
00:49:59.000 They killed the park. 0.97
00:50:01.000 Oh, man. 0.99
00:50:02.000 Vampires. 1.00
00:50:03.000 They just want to suck out all the trees and just make money, these dirty bitches. 1.00
00:50:07.000 Oh, man. 1.00
00:50:08.000 Pretty soon everybody's going to have no place to go, man.
00:50:11.000 Well, I think Central Park is safe and.
00:50:11.000 Yeah.
00:50:14.000 That's the greatest park in the world.
00:50:15.000 Yeah.
00:50:16.000 It really is.
00:50:16.000 The greatest park in any city in the world.
00:50:18.000 It's so crazy you mentioned that because on the way here, I was flicking through Instagram and I saw.
00:50:24.000 I'm sorry that this happened.
00:50:28.000 Some dude got killed. 0.98
00:50:30.000 One of the horses took, you know, the horse and buggy thing, just fucking launched. 0.98
00:50:37.000 And you see the dude, the horse flips the cart. 0.97
00:50:41.000 Oh, no.
00:50:42.000 And the dude gets flung out and he dies.
00:50:45.000 He died on the way to the hospital.
00:50:46.000 Why did the horse freak out?
00:50:49.000 Do we know what happened?
00:50:50.000 I don't, it didn't show it.
00:50:51.000 It just showed like somebody else's had footage of it, like just the horse freaking out and then peeling out.
00:50:59.000 And you'd see the thing flip over and you're like, oh man, dude.
00:51:02.000 You know, I love horses and I'm not a fan of horses walking around the city. 1.00
00:51:07.000 I think it's fucked. 1.00
00:51:08.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:51:08.000 I get that people think it's romantic to ride on the back of a buggy with a horse. 1.00
00:51:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:51:13.000 Yeah.
00:51:14.000 It's not right.
00:51:15.000 No. 0.99
00:51:15.000 Horse is supposed to be in the fucking. 0.99
00:51:17.000 Fields and the mountains. 1.00
00:51:18.000 The horse is supposed to be running around and eating.
00:51:20.000 Clicking around on the asphalt. 1.00
00:51:22.000 Fuck all, dude. 1.00
00:51:23.000 Fuck all that. 1.00
00:51:24.000 They don't like it. 1.00
00:51:25.000 It's just a gross touristy thing.
00:51:27.000 I mean, it's cool to see them every now and then. 0.96
00:51:30.000 Yeah, I know cops like to use them when they're breaking up riots and shit, which is kind of crazy. 0.93
00:51:35.000 But the reality is, a horse is not supposed to be there, just like a cow's not supposed to be there. 0.99
00:51:39.000 If you had cows walking down the street, you'd be like, why the fuck is this cow here? 0.98
00:51:42.000 This was likely an accident because the driver, yeah, the driver, I guess they call him, wasn't in the right spot, like left his seat. 0.99
00:51:52.000 Yeah.
00:51:52.000 What?
00:51:53.000 They're never supposed to leave their seat.
00:51:53.000 He left his seat.
00:51:54.000 It says to take maybe a photo of the passengers in the carriage.
00:51:57.000 And when the family was climbing back in, the horse got spooked.
00:52:01.000 Oh, no.
00:52:02.000 It happened very fast.
00:52:03.000 But yeah, the driver's not in it, the driver's not in it, dude.
00:52:06.000 It just peels out.
00:52:09.000 Oh man, and you see it just go and just made a make kind of a hard right, and the buggy just flips over.
00:52:18.000 I don't with horses, man.
00:52:20.000 Yeah, dude, I don't ride them.
00:52:22.000 I have ridden a horse before, I don't like it, dude.
00:52:25.000 I've been same here, I've done it.
00:52:27.000 I got my ass thrown off one, yeah, and I was like, I'm good, I'm cool. 0.97
00:52:32.000 It's just not that was good. 0.97
00:52:34.000 It's just, I mean, look.
00:52:36.000 If you're a cowboy and you're riding horses and everything, that's kind of a different thing.
00:52:39.000 Sure.
00:52:40.000 You know, if you're doing it every day, that's a different thing.
00:52:42.000 But for me, it's like, I don't need to ride them.
00:52:44.000 I get it.
00:52:45.000 For entertainment purposes.
00:52:47.000 It's like I went to Thailand and we rode elephants.
00:52:49.000 We had to ride elephants.
00:52:50.000 And the elephants don't mind because you establish a relationship with them first.
00:52:54.000 You feed them sugar cane and you pet them and you hang out with them.
00:52:58.000 And they decide whether or not you're cool.
00:53:00.000 And if you give them like peaceful, gentle, friendly energy, they're like, sure, come on up.
00:53:04.000 And they lift their leg up and you step on top of them and you climb on their back and they gently take you through the jungle.
00:53:09.000 But I'm like, I didn't need to do that.
00:53:11.000 I could have just hung out with them.
00:53:12.000 That would have been plenty cool.
00:53:13.000 I'm happy just feeding them.
00:53:15.000 I don't need to ride them.
00:53:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:53:17.000 Like King Chimp. 1.00
00:53:18.000 I'm King Chimp on this big ass fucking elephant. 1.00
00:53:21.000 Look at me. 1.00
00:53:23.000 It's very weird.
00:53:24.000 Yeah.
00:53:24.000 It's weird.
00:53:25.000 But, you know, people like it.
00:53:28.000 And they're beautiful animals.
00:53:29.000 Oh, my God.
00:53:30.000 They're beautiful.
00:53:31.000 I don't need to ride animals.
00:53:32.000 I get it.
00:53:33.000 People like to do it.
00:53:34.000 I don't have a problem with people doing it, but it's not me.
00:53:36.000 Yeah.
00:53:37.000 I'd rather look at them.
00:53:38.000 I'm with you.
00:53:39.000 Yeah.
00:53:40.000 But.
00:53:41.000 Horses and people have like a crazy relationship.
00:53:44.000 You know, people that have horses, like they're bonded to that animal like no other animal.
00:53:49.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99
00:53:51.000 I know a few that are just like horse whisperer kind of shit, like where you're like, whoa, this is some next level love. 0.99
00:54:00.000 Yeah, they do a lot of therapy with that too. 0.99
00:54:03.000 They do incline therapy for a lot of people.
00:54:05.000 I did that one time at a rehab.
00:54:07.000 They took us to have like a couple of days just with horses, and it was cool, man.
00:54:14.000 I get it.
00:54:15.000 Yeah.
00:54:15.000 Well, again, it's like just like the trees in the forest.
00:54:19.000 It's like something peaceful about horses.
00:54:20.000 Yeah.
00:54:21.000 You know?
00:54:22.000 Most of the time, especially if they're broken, they're pretty chill.
00:54:25.000 They just want to hang out.
00:54:26.000 Yeah.
00:54:27.000 You can come up and pet them and they like it.
00:54:27.000 Yeah.
00:54:29.000 And it's like, wow.
00:54:31.000 Like, oh.
00:54:32.000 Yeah.
00:54:33.000 Puts you in check. 1.00
00:54:34.000 Their big ass teeth freak me out when you're feeding them. 0.96
00:54:37.000 You're like, you don't want to get your fingers in there, dude. 0.98
00:54:39.000 People have been bitten by them, too. 0.99
00:54:41.000 Chompers. 0.99
00:54:42.000 If someone's a dick, you get a horse annoyed and they bite you. 1.00
00:54:44.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:54:45.000 Bro.
00:54:45.000 Oh, dude.
00:54:46.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:54:47.000 That's got a fucking. 1.00
00:54:49.000 Can you imagine? 1.00
00:54:50.000 All that jaw power?
00:54:51.000 Dude. 1.00
00:54:51.000 Look at the size of their fucking head. 1.00
00:54:53.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:54:54.000 Just clamping down on your hand. 1.00
00:54:57.000 I want a carrot, bitch. 1.00
00:54:57.000 Fuck you. 1.00
00:55:00.000 Give me the fucking carrot. 1.00
00:55:06.000 That's so rad you can smoke in your hand. 1.00
00:55:08.000 Oh.
00:55:08.000 Yes.
00:55:09.000 Yeah, I smoke cigars.
00:55:10.000 Of course.
00:55:11.000 I'll fire up with you.
00:55:13.000 All right.
00:55:14.000 Mm.
00:55:14.000 How long have you been smoking?
00:55:19.000 God.
00:55:21.000 Forever.
00:55:21.000 You ever try to quit?
00:55:23.000 I have, and I quit for a few years ago. 0.99
00:55:28.000 I quit for like, fuck. 0.99
00:55:32.000 I almost made it a year. 0.99
00:55:35.000 And then I was like, God, I feel like after a few months, you're out of the woods.
00:55:39.000 Yeah.
00:55:41.000 It just didn't last.
00:55:41.000 I don't know.
00:55:43.000 It just didn't fucking last, man. 0.83
00:55:45.000 What brought you back? 0.93
00:55:51.000 You know what?
00:55:53.000 Probably because I was drinking at the time.
00:55:55.000 They kind of go hand in hand.
00:55:57.000 If you're having a cocktail or a beer or whatever, you're having a smoke.
00:56:00.000 Chances are.
00:56:01.000 Right.
00:56:02.000 And I don't know, man.
00:56:04.000 I was just, you're sitting there and you're having a drink and you're like, where's a cigarette?
00:56:10.000 It's just, I don't know.
00:56:11.000 It's like rock and roll.
00:56:12.000 They just go together for some reason.
00:56:14.000 So I failed.
00:56:16.000 Well, why did you quit originally?
00:56:19.000 What was the thought behind it? 0.99
00:56:26.000 I think I was just trying to quit fucking everything. 0.99
00:56:29.000 You know, you're just like, that's it. 1.00
00:56:31.000 Fuck everything. 1.00
00:56:32.000 I'm just going to take a break and fucking hit the reset button. 1.00
00:56:35.000 On everything. 0.94
00:56:36.000 I think I was going through that phase because I hadn't ever tried that, tried everything else, but nothing.
00:56:43.000 Um uh, and yeah, I don't know man, it's the last vice of a lot of people in recovery. 0.91
00:56:51.000 Yeah, and then you and you got, and then you know, you got guys like Keith Richards, who's just ripping cigarettes still, and i'm like he's fine and like I i've, i've gotten, i've gotten my my lungs and done the whole like prenuvo, but like body scan to see all your shit, and they're like you're good.
00:57:15.000 I'm like are you sure?
00:57:17.000 Wait, let me see the like you know the the paperwork.
00:57:21.000 Is it just a different leaves or a different guy? 0.98
00:57:24.000 Like, because that's fucking impossible. 0.96
00:57:27.000 They're like you're good. 0.98
00:57:30.000 I was like all right, so that there's really no reason to quit.
00:57:34.000 Well, there's a.
00:57:34.000 It's actually a very small percentage of people.
00:57:38.000 Well, first of all, it's a very small percentage of people that get lung cancer out of the general population.
00:57:44.000 And then when you add in cigarette smokers, it's a small percentage of cigarette smokers that get lung cancer.
00:57:52.000 But more cigarette smokers get lung cancer than regular people.
00:57:57.000 And so that's why when you look at the percentage of people that get lung cancer that smoke cigarettes, that's why it looks so high.
00:58:05.000 So if you like, let's find the numbers.
00:58:07.000 Put it into perplexity, please.
00:58:09.000 Mm hmm.
00:58:10.000 What percentage of cigarette smokers get lung cancer?
00:58:15.000 And I think it's less than 5%.
00:58:17.000 I think it's a very small number.
00:58:19.000 And then you've got to think people that are smoking cigarettes, how many of them are smoking two, three packs a day?
00:58:25.000 Oh, yeah, that's crazy.
00:58:26.000 And how many of them are smoking just a few cigarettes a day?
00:58:30.000 I bet a lot.
00:58:31.000 I bet a lot of people that are a little hesitant, they only smoke like a half a pack or a little bit less.
00:58:36.000 Yeah.
00:58:37.000 So what does it say, Jamie?
00:58:39.000 Yeah.
00:58:40.000 It's still calculating?
00:58:42.000 No, I was typing it.
00:58:43.000 Oh, sorry.
00:58:44.000 And isn't there something about nicotine?
00:58:47.000 Like when COVID happened, they were like, if you're a smoker, you're good. 0.99
00:58:50.000 And I never got fucking COVID. 0.99
00:58:52.000 Yes. 0.99
00:58:53.000 And I was like, yay, nicotine.
00:58:55.000 Well, there's something about smoking cigarettes that's supposed to be really good to prevent COVID.
00:59:00.000 It's really confusing to people.
00:59:01.000 So crazy.
00:59:02.000 Yeah.
00:59:03.000 10 to 20% of people who smoke at some point in their lives will develop lung cancer, with many studies landing about 15%.
00:59:10.000 I thought it was a lot less than that.
00:59:12.000 Large study estimates that 15 out of 100 current smokers will get lung cancer over the.
00:59:16.000 But that's estimated from a study.
00:59:19.000 Another analysis found roughly one in seven current smokers develop blood cancer.
00:59:25.000 People who never smoke have a 1% to 2% chance or a lifetime risk of lung cancer.
00:59:31.000 Wow.
00:59:32.000 Yeah, people who never smoke.
00:59:34.000 Overall, only a minority of smokers get lung cancer, but smoking still causes about 80% to 9% of the lung cancer deaths.
00:59:42.000 Oh, this is something we talked about yesterday, Jamie, that we forgot to look up.
00:59:46.000 There's some sort of a study that's connecting people that live in Europe that have high polyphenol diets.
00:59:53.000 So they use a lot of olive oil.
00:59:56.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:59:57.000 And olive oil seems to protect, and it's a very controversial statement because people think, oh my God, you're promoting cigarettes.
01:00:04.000 I don't think they're promoting cigarettes.
01:00:05.000 I just think they're just looking at data that these people that have high olive oil content in their diets seem to not have any problems with cigarettes or not have nearly as many problems.
01:00:16.000 Oh, wow.
01:00:16.000 Yeah, which makes sense because olive oil is so good for you.
01:00:19.000 You've got to think it's got to balance out a lot of the free radicals and bullshit that you're getting from life. 0.97
01:00:24.000 Yes. 0.99
01:00:25.000 It makes sense that it would apply to smoking as well.
01:00:27.000 Totally.
01:00:28.000 Yeah, that's.
01:00:29.000 Yeah, I heard that.
01:00:30.000 So, smoke them if you got them.
01:00:32.000 Get some extra virgin olive oil. 0.99
01:00:32.000 Fucking A, dude. 0.99
01:00:34.000 Let's fucking go. 1.00
01:00:35.000 Dip them. 1.00
01:00:38.000 Dip them like Sherm.
01:00:39.000 Have you ever tried Sherm?
01:00:41.000 Yeah, a long time ago.
01:00:42.000 Did you?
01:00:43.000 Whoa. 1.00
01:00:43.000 Yeah, in fucking high school days, man. 1.00
01:00:46.000 People in Europe who eat high polyphenol diets but still smoke still face the full, very high health risks of smoking. 0.99
01:00:55.000 Diet cannot cancel out cigarette damage, it can only modestly improve overall risk markers.
01:01:00.000 But there was an article that I had read.
01:01:03.000 That they were connecting it.
01:01:05.000 They were talking about Europeans, yeah, here it is, especially Mediterranean rich plant diets consume substantial polyphenols from fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, tea, olive oil, and wine.
01:01:16.000 Polyphenol intake is linked to better cardiovascular risk profiles and lower long term heart disease risk and overall mortality in observational studies.
01:01:27.000 Because that's the other thing about cigarettes it's not just cancer, it's also heart disease.
01:01:32.000 And so polyphenols have antioxidants and Anti inflammatory effects, but current evidence does not show they can neutralize the cardiovascular cancer or lung damage risk from smoking.
01:01:45.000 What it means for smokers?
01:01:48.000 Haters.
01:01:52.000 You have to have some vices. 1.00
01:01:54.000 Most of the people I know that in Alcoholics Anonymous, they fucking drink coffee every day and they smoke cigarettes. 0.99
01:01:59.000 Big percentage of them. 1.00
01:01:59.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:02:00.000 Ripping cigarettes.
01:02:01.000 Yeah.
01:02:02.000 Because it gets you a little high.
01:02:03.000 Yeah.
01:02:04.000 But it's like a very manageable high.
01:02:06.000 Like the cigarette high is like, oh, I'm all right.
01:02:06.000 Yeah.
01:02:08.000 Yeah, it's just like a little lightheaded.
01:02:10.000 Yeah.
01:02:11.000 But also, like, good for cognitive function, you know?
01:02:16.000 Oh. 0.99
01:02:17.000 Like, you know, Pink Floyd, when they wrote The Wall, they were high as fuck on cigarettes. 0.99
01:02:20.000 Those guys smoked cigarettes all day long. 0.99
01:02:22.000 What?
01:02:23.000 Yeah.
01:02:24.000 Yeah, those dudes smoked a ton of cigarettes. 0.99
01:02:26.000 Get out of here. 0.99
01:02:26.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:02:27.000 Is that coffee, dude? 1.00
01:02:28.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
01:02:28.000 Yeah, get in there, dog. 1.00
01:02:29.000 Thank you, bro.
01:02:30.000 My pleasure.
01:02:30.000 Yeah.
01:02:31.000 Yeah.
01:02:32.000 Tony Hinchcliffe told me that, and he's a giant cigarette fan.
01:02:37.000 Stephen King said that, too.
01:02:39.000 When he stopped smoking cigarettes, it affected his writing.
01:02:43.000 Oh, whoa.
01:02:44.000 Yeah, I said his synapses just didn't fire as fast anymore.
01:02:47.000 It's like that was one of the things that I really noticed when I quit smoking.
01:02:47.000 Whoa.
01:02:51.000 That's wild.
01:02:52.000 Yeah.
01:02:53.000 Huh.
01:02:54.000 Doesn't that make sense, though?
01:02:55.000 Yeah, it does.
01:02:56.000 I remember quitting for a short time there.
01:03:00.000 I remember everything tasting better. 0.99
01:03:03.000 Oh, shit. 0.99
01:03:03.000 I'm sure. 0.99
01:03:04.000 Yeah, like everything just tasted better.
01:03:07.000 Yeah.
01:03:08.000 Of course.
01:03:09.000 Pounding a cigarette immediately following every single meal or drink.
01:03:13.000 It's got to numb the inside of your mouth in some way or dull your senses.
01:03:17.000 Something.
01:03:18.000 You're caking it with smoke.
01:03:21.000 Clog up the old taste receptors.
01:03:21.000 Yeah.
01:03:23.000 Yeah, dude.
01:03:25.000 But a lot of creative people swear by cigarettes, man.
01:03:30.000 I think there's some benefit to it.
01:03:33.000 Yeah, hopefully.
01:03:35.000 No, I think there is.
01:03:36.000 I think there's some cognitive benefit.
01:03:38.000 There's just way too many super creative people.
01:03:41.000 And a lot of intelligent people, a lot of professors use tobacco.
01:03:45.000 David Gilmore says he never smoked cigarettes.
01:03:49.000 David Gilmore.
01:03:50.000 But didn't Roger Waters?
01:03:52.000 He says this, I think, goes on to say that some of the band did smoke cigarettes, but it's more about their marijuana and hashish smoking.
01:03:58.000 And the tobacco.
01:03:59.000 So, Tony Henscliffe spreading misinformation, and here I am repeating it.
01:04:04.000 He could have been told, though.
01:04:06.000 Yeah, I'm sure he was told.
01:04:07.000 Well, Roger, we all did hang out with Roger that one night.
01:04:11.000 That was pretty dope.
01:04:12.000 We got to see Roger Waters live.
01:04:14.000 He came on the podcast, we hung out, and then we went to see his concert.
01:04:17.000 It was insane.
01:04:18.000 Oh, it was insane. 1.00
01:04:19.000 I'll bet it was fucking Rob. 0.99
01:04:20.000 Another legend was still like full power on stage. 1.00
01:04:24.000 It's incredible.
01:04:24.000 That's the best.
01:04:25.000 The show was amazing.
01:04:26.000 And it's like he has these enormous screens behind him.
01:04:30.000 So, the show is like, it's the music, but it's also these incredible visuals that you're watching while the music is playing.
01:04:36.000 Yeah.
01:04:37.000 You know, and his is so politically loaded. 0.97
01:04:39.000 So, it's, you know, you see all this crazy shit like while he's singing these songs. 1.00
01:04:44.000 Like when they're playing the wall, it's like, fuck. 1.00
01:04:46.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:04:46.000 I remember seeing one of those tours. 0.99
01:04:49.000 I don't know.
01:04:49.000 Maybe it was.
01:04:50.000 But the wall is slowly building over the whole show.
01:04:52.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:04:54.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.99
01:04:55.000 And when we went to see him, Ari was high as fuck on acid and he's crying in the middle of the show. 1.00
01:04:59.000 He's crying like, he's weeping. 0.99
01:05:00.000 He's sitting there. 1.00
01:05:02.000 It was fucking. 1.00
01:05:03.000 Phenomenal. 1.00
01:05:04.000 Oh my God.
01:05:06.000 Dude, I don't know if I could handle that.
01:05:09.000 Yeah, I don't know either.
01:05:10.000 Jesus. 0.99
01:05:11.000 Like, get the fuck out of here with the acid. 0.99
01:05:13.000 We're just going to go see the concert. 0.99
01:05:14.000 I'm not doing that.
01:05:15.000 Yeah, dude. 1.00
01:05:16.000 Fuck. 1.00
01:05:17.000 Around all those people. 1.00
01:05:19.000 And I'd probably, I don't know if that'd be a good one. 0.96
01:05:22.000 Probably not a good one, but Ari's an experienced passenger. 0.99
01:05:26.000 You know what I mean?
01:05:28.000 He could ride some waves.
01:05:29.000 Good boy.
01:05:30.000 He could ride some waves without throwing up.
01:05:34.000 Do you ever look back and just say, God, it's a.
01:05:37.000 Wonder I'm still alive.
01:05:39.000 Dude, I told you earlier I pinch myself on a daily basis.
01:05:43.000 I really do that.
01:05:46.000 Like I shouldn't technically be here right, maybe you shouldn't, I don't know, who knows that.
01:05:54.000 We all got our our thing.
01:05:55.000 But oh man, I'm really lucky to be here and I think it's because I want to be here, like you know what I mean. 0.91
01:06:03.000 Like I like, I want to be here, like I want to fucking see.
01:06:07.000 I'm kind of pissed because I feel like we're not even close to where we should be. 0.95
01:06:13.000 I mean, the year 2000, where's my fucking spaceship? 0.96
01:06:18.000 Right. 0.97
01:06:20.000 You know, like, where is that?
01:06:22.000 It was supposed to be full Jetsons.
01:06:24.000 Bro, they're extremely late, or it's never going to happen.
01:06:30.000 I think there's a real problem with people flying around.
01:06:33.000 They lied.
01:06:34.000 The problem with people flying around is you got to catch them.
01:06:38.000 You know what I mean?
01:06:39.000 Whereas if they're on the street, just close off the street.
01:06:42.000 And then you catch them.
01:06:43.000 Right.
01:06:44.000 If people are flying around, like, it's just like they're going towards a bank and they go, and they just go off.
01:06:44.000 Yeah.
01:06:51.000 Like, no, no, no, no.
01:06:53.000 You can't have that for everybody.
01:06:54.000 You gotta have people corralled in nice, like, very clean lines.
01:07:00.000 We can block these lines off, very obvious paths.
01:07:04.000 Use lights to start and stop.
01:07:05.000 Fly over them in helicopters, put a spotlight down on them so you follow them around.
01:07:11.000 That's what people like.
01:07:12.000 They don't like this idea of the jets and like that's not. 0.99
01:07:16.000 Fuck, I want that, dude. 0.99
01:07:17.000 I want my own little. 1.00
01:07:19.000 Well, they do have flying cars now.
01:07:21.000 I saw some of those.
01:07:23.000 There's a couple.
01:07:23.000 There's like a one company called Jet One.
01:07:26.000 It's like this little, looks like a little, it's like a one man drone for helicopters.
01:07:30.000 I'm like, yeah. 0.96
01:07:31.000 Me and my manager were always like, should we go fucking get a couple of these? 0.98
01:07:35.000 You don't want to die that way. 0.99
01:07:37.000 Yeah.
01:07:37.000 Let those things get worked out for a few years.
01:07:39.000 It probably needs a little bit more time for it to be soup, but.
01:07:39.000 Yeah.
01:07:43.000 Yeah, man.
01:07:43.000 Because, I mean, think about like how glitchy early cell phones were.
01:07:47.000 You know what I mean?
01:07:48.000 Dude, right. 0.99
01:07:49.000 Let that shit get ironed out. 1.00
01:07:51.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:07:52.000 Let the eggheads. 1.00
01:07:53.000 Work on that for a little bit, polish it up nice, fix all the bugs.
01:07:57.000 Yeah, it's like I don't know what happens when those things crash.
01:08:01.000 Like, yeah, a warning when they're about to die.
01:08:04.000 Like, do you do they run out of batteries?
01:08:06.000 Does it run out of gas?
01:08:07.000 Yeah, is it allowed to run out of gas? 1.00
01:08:09.000 Can you just be an asshole and just fly until you run out of gas and die? 1.00
01:08:13.000 Yeah, or solar charging takeover? 1.00
01:08:15.000 I think I could make it home.
01:08:16.000 Yeah, like how many guys have done that in their cars?
01:08:18.000 I think I could make it home. 0.94
01:08:20.000 When I was in high school, my friend picked me up in his buddy's 1970 Chevelles, fucking amazing Chevelles, so dope. 0.91
01:08:27.000 And I remember he ran out of gas and we coasted perfectly right to the gas station. 0.95
01:08:33.000 No way.
01:08:33.000 Yeah.
01:08:34.000 It was like we shut the car and we got out, like, that was amazing.
01:08:38.000 Because, you know, we're 16.
01:08:39.000 It ran out of gas at the pump.
01:08:42.000 I was like, this is perfect.
01:08:43.000 No pushing, no nothing. 0.99
01:08:46.000 But if you're in one of them little drones and that shit goes on E. 0.99
01:08:51.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:08:52.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:08:53.000 It's fucking parts. 1.00
01:08:57.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:08:59.000 Yeah, not good.
01:09:00.000 Did you see that documentary that they did about that kid that stole a plane?
01:09:05.000 He stole a plane.
01:09:05.000 He was like working at an airport and he stole a plane and hijacked it and then flew it and crashed it and died.
01:09:12.000 But he's like having conversations with them.
01:09:12.000 Yes.
01:09:14.000 Yeah, he's talking to them, going like, I don't know what I'm doing, man.
01:09:17.000 But, you know, this one's for the, I don't know.
01:09:20.000 Yeah.
01:09:21.000 And they were just like, I could run it, dude.
01:09:24.000 Well, they were trying to get him to land it.
01:09:26.000 They were trying to get him to land it.
01:09:27.000 But the reality was, like, he's no way he was going to figure out how to land it.
01:09:31.000 He's a dead man.
01:09:32.000 The moment he got off the ground, he's a dead man. 0.83
01:09:34.000 Yeah.
01:09:35.000 And he just stole the plane.
01:09:36.000 And there's a whole documentary about it.
01:09:39.000 It's apparently very interesting.
01:09:41.000 I have not seen the documentary, but I've seen clips of them trying to talk him down.
01:09:41.000 Oh, wow.
01:09:47.000 And he just seemed like that wasn't an option.
01:09:51.000 He just seemed like.
01:09:53.000 He was ready to wrap it up.
01:09:54.000 He was taking this.
01:09:55.000 This was that one flight.
01:09:58.000 Yeah.
01:09:58.000 Ready to wrap it up.
01:09:59.000 Yeah.
01:10:00.000 I hope your insurance covers this.
01:10:01.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:10:03.000 Fuck. 1.00
01:10:04.000 But, yeah, I think flying cars will probably be a thing one day. 1.00
01:10:09.000 For 70 minutes, the world watched in disbelief as a stolen Horizon airplane soared over Puget Sound before crashing on a remote island.
01:10:16.000 Now, a new Hulu documentary reveals the man behind the controls and the quiet struggle that led him there.
01:10:22.000 Oh, I got to watch this.
01:10:23.000 What's it called?
01:10:24.000 What's Sky King?
01:10:26.000 It's what?
01:10:26.000 Sky King, it's called.
01:10:27.000 Sky King.
01:10:28.000 Poor dude. 1.00
01:10:29.000 Oh, damn. 1.00
01:10:31.000 Well, at least they gave him a rad title. 0.99
01:10:34.000 Yeah, well, the unfortunate thing is that might encourage other people to do it as well.
01:10:38.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:10:39.000 People are very stupid. 1.00
01:10:41.000 Dude, people are stupid. 1.00
01:10:43.000 I just released a song called Stupid World a couple weeks ago. 1.00
01:10:47.000 And that's exactly what that's about. 1.00
01:10:50.000 It's literally, we have gotten to a place where everything to me, like we are at just epic, stupid proportions where you're just like, not a day goes by where I'm like, that's fucking ridiculous. 1.00
01:11:04.000 That's stupid. 1.00
01:11:05.000 Like, how stupid? 1.00
01:11:07.000 How stupid can we get? 1.00
01:11:10.000 Anyway, I wrote this track called Stupid World. 1.00
01:11:12.000 You live in L.A., which is one of the stupidest fucking places on earth. 1.00
01:11:16.000 Dude, I know. 1.00
01:11:18.000 It's fucking insane. 0.98
01:11:19.000 I'm like, and I'm doing the same thing too. 0.98
01:11:21.000 Like, why do I live here?
01:11:23.000 I mean, I love it there, but in the same way, there's always in the back of my head is why?
01:11:29.000 Look, it's one of the most beautiful places on earth.
01:11:32.000 The weather's perfect.
01:11:33.000 Yes.
01:11:33.000 Most of the people are very friendly.
01:11:35.000 Most of the people are cool. 0.99
01:11:37.000 It's only a percentage of the people that suck. 0.76
01:11:41.000 It's a large percentage, but it's only a percentage. 0.91
01:11:44.000 The majority of the people are cool.
01:11:46.000 The problem is, it's like slowly becoming a new Detroit.
01:11:50.000 It's like slowly the film business.
01:11:53.000 Is like dried up.
01:11:55.000 Yeah.
01:11:55.000 Like completely dried up.
01:11:57.000 Television, completely dried up.
01:11:59.000 Late night TV, it's dried up, man.
01:12:02.000 And that was fueling a giant part of what made LA special.
01:12:07.000 I know.
01:12:08.000 And it's just dried up, man.
01:12:09.000 Nobody has to be there anymore, and they make it intolerable.
01:12:12.000 They make you seem like you have to be there, so they just punish you with taxes and they punish you with regulations.
01:12:21.000 They punish you.
01:12:22.000 They make it everything. 0.98
01:12:24.000 Very difficult to conduct business, very difficult to be safe, very difficult to just feel fucking normal. 0.96
01:12:30.000 And they get surprised when people leave. 0.96
01:12:30.000 Yeah. 0.96
01:12:32.000 Like, what do you want?
01:12:34.000 Yeah.
01:12:34.000 What do you think you're doing to that place?
01:12:37.000 You guys can see the statistics. 0.99
01:12:38.000 Stop fucking gaslighting the world. 0.99
01:12:41.000 Right? 1.00
01:12:41.000 You guys fuck this place sideways and you want to keep doing it. 1.00
01:12:44.000 And the weirdest thing is, you know, like, you know, you hear and you see, oh man, fuck a bunch of people are leaving LA. 1.00
01:12:51.000 And part of me is like, fuck yes. 1.00
01:12:54.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00
01:12:55.000 There's too many people here. 1.00
01:12:57.000 So go.
01:12:59.000 But then I realize nothing's really changed, and I don't really notice that people have left.
01:13:07.000 Traffic's still the same. 0.99
01:13:08.000 A bunch of shit's exactly the same. 0.99
01:13:11.000 And you tell me this many people left, I don't see it. 1.00
01:13:14.000 And I wonder if that's not maybe a hyped statistic.
01:13:21.000 Yeah, it's not a scientific analysis.
01:13:23.000 No, like the numbers are real.
01:13:25.000 People have left.
01:13:26.000 LA, but it doesn't matter.
01:13:27.000 You could lose 5 million people, and LA is still too big.
01:13:30.000 The traffic's bananas. 1.00
01:13:32.000 Dude, it's fucking retarded. 1.00
01:13:35.000 It's bananas. 1.00
01:13:36.000 If you want to go to Orange County at 4 o'clock or shoot yourself, that's a real decision. 0.99
01:13:43.000 Drive to Orange County at 4 o'clock in the afternoon, you're like, what the fuck am I doing with my life? 1.00
01:13:47.000 This is crazy. 0.96
01:13:48.000 Yeah, and don't even think about hitting the 405 at all.
01:13:53.000 No.
01:13:53.000 No, you're going to have to go some sideways.
01:13:56.000 Yeah.
01:13:57.000 You're going to have to use ways.
01:13:59.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:14:01.000 And even then you're fucked. 1.00
01:14:02.000 Even then it's an hour and a half. 1.00
01:14:04.000 If you live in like Irvine and you commute to LA, God bless you.
01:14:07.000 Dude.
01:14:08.000 God bless you.
01:14:09.000 How do you do it?
01:14:09.000 Yeah.
01:14:10.000 I don't know.
01:14:11.000 People do it every day.
01:14:12.000 They just want to live in a place like Irvine, real safe, real nice.
01:14:15.000 Yeah.
01:14:16.000 But I got to work in LA. 1.00
01:14:17.000 Fuck it. 1.00
01:14:17.000 I'll just drive in every day. 1.00
01:14:19.000 Just fucking mad and just. 0.98
01:14:22.000 I would get up at 5 in the morning and just go to the gym. 0.99
01:14:25.000 That's what I would do.
01:14:25.000 I'd get up 5 in the morning, drive to LA.
01:14:27.000 I'd get a membership in LA at the gym.
01:14:29.000 That way I'm driving with no traffic at least one way, at least getting there.
01:14:33.000 I have no traffic.
01:14:34.000 Yeah.
01:14:34.000 And then you deal with the home commute.
01:14:36.000 Doing it to both to and from.
01:14:39.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:14:39.000 Fuck you. 1.00
01:14:40.000 Fuck you. 1.00
01:14:41.000 I'm not doing that. 1.00
01:14:42.000 It's too gnarly.
01:14:44.000 I'd rather get up at five in the morning.
01:14:47.000 I can't imagine even doing it once a day.
01:14:49.000 But there's a lot of people that do three hours a day minimum in their car, and they really live 20 minutes away.
01:14:57.000 If they didn't have traffic, they would be there in 25 minutes.
01:15:00.000 Man.
01:15:02.000 That's pretty crazy when you realize all we have here on this planet is time.
01:15:07.000 And you realize that kind of time you're wasting, and you're never going to get back.
01:15:07.000 Mm hmm.
01:15:14.000 And you're like, if I do this consecutively every single day, I wonder what, add that time up over, you know, whatever, however many years, and I'll bet you people would freak the fuck out.
01:15:29.000 Yeah, you lost years. 0.99
01:15:31.000 I just lost years of my life in the fucking car. 1.00
01:15:34.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:15:35.000 But the good thing is, one thing that you can do in the car is listen to books on tape.
01:15:41.000 And books on tape are amazing.
01:15:41.000 Yeah.
01:15:43.000 And, you know, podcasts too for some people.
01:15:46.000 Yeah.
01:15:46.000 But for me, a lot of it is books on tape.
01:15:48.000 Because you'll get lost in a book, and it doesn't even really bother you that much.
01:15:54.000 And one of the crazy things, if you have a Tesla, my Tesla does auto driving.
01:15:59.000 So if I want to, if I'm leaving here and there's some crazy traffic for some reason, I just go, I just turn it on, and it goes.
01:16:08.000 I don't have to hit the blinkers, I don't have to change lanes, I don't have to stop at red lights.
01:16:13.000 It does everything.
01:16:15.000 De-stressed.
01:16:16.000 And all I have to do is just keep my fingers on the wheel.
01:16:19.000 Just like this.
01:16:20.000 Oh, to make it look like you're on the road.
01:16:21.000 No, you're supposed to stay in contact with the wheel and just keep your eyes on the road.
01:16:25.000 But you don't have to think at all.
01:16:27.000 You can't do that.
01:16:28.000 You're not supposed to do that.
01:16:29.000 It probably would still work.
01:16:30.000 What happens if you just go to sleep?
01:16:30.000 I don't even know.
01:16:32.000 I think it shuts down after a second.
01:16:33.000 Probably starts to.
01:16:34.000 It recognizes that you're doing that and shuts down.
01:16:37.000 But the reality is, that as a stress decoupler, there's nothing like it.
01:16:42.000 Oh, man, the best.
01:16:43.000 You just put your fingers on the wheel and just chill.
01:16:46.000 And now all you're doing is sitting for an hour and a half instead of constantly hitting the brakes, constantly hitting the gas, constantly hitting the brakes.
01:16:52.000 Now you're just chilling and you can get to just like listen to your book on bonsai.
01:16:56.000 Yeah, no, that is that is nice, man.
01:16:59.000 I don't know about you, but like if I start, you know, you start reading a book, just you know, your eyes focusing and reading, they get tired.
01:17:08.000 So you get more in listening to it, an auditory version of it, rather than for me at least, sort of, sort of, I stressing on reading and doing all that. 0.87
01:17:21.000 Yeah, I get tired and then fucking lose interest.
01:17:24.000 Yeah, there's definitely something to that.
01:17:28.000 Reading always makes me want to go to sleep.
01:17:30.000 Especially reading at night helps me fall asleep.
01:17:30.000 Yes.
01:17:33.000 But there's also something about reading in your head because you create the voices and you create everything.
01:17:41.000 You use your imagination when you're just reading that doesn't exist with books on tape.
01:17:46.000 But with audiobooks, I don't have the time.
01:17:50.000 So for me, it's a time thing.
01:17:52.000 If I have a guest coming on and the guest is an astrophysicist that has some very bizarre theory about something, I need to.
01:17:58.000 Absorb the information and I have a limited amount of time.
01:18:01.000 So I listen to audiobooks in the gym, I listen to audiobooks in the sauna, and I listen to it in the car on the way to work.
01:18:08.000 And so that all together is a couple hours in a day.
01:18:12.000 So I can do that and get a lot of information in where I wouldn't, I don't have the couple hours to sit down and just read.
01:18:20.000 I just, I don't.
01:18:21.000 I wish I did, I don't.
01:18:22.000 So I can still get all that data and that information, but I have to be very diligent about actually listening.
01:18:29.000 Yeah.
01:18:29.000 That's the thing.
01:18:30.000 Because especially at the gym, You can get a little just distracted, and you're like, What the fuck did he just say? 0.98
01:18:37.000 And you have to back it up. 0.97
01:18:38.000 When that happens, I generally just shut it off.
01:18:38.000 Oh, yeah.
01:18:40.000 I'm like, This workout's too intense.
01:18:42.000 I can't really pay attention.
01:18:43.000 Yeah.
01:18:45.000 What do they say?
01:18:46.000 Do what you're doing when you're doing it.
01:18:47.000 Yeah.
01:18:49.000 People think they're multitasking.
01:18:52.000 Right. 0.99
01:18:52.000 That doesn't fucking exist. 0.99
01:18:54.000 You really, yeah, whatever. 0.99
01:18:56.000 You're sort of multitasking, but you're robbing from Peter to pay Paul.
01:19:00.000 Thank you very much.
01:19:01.000 Yeah.
01:19:02.000 You're taking away some of your attention on what you're doing to pay attention to this other thing, and it's definitely making you less good at either one of those things.
01:19:09.000 And if one of them is very simple and it's like it doesn't matter, okay, you could be distracted.
01:19:14.000 If it's two important things, you're robbing each important thing.
01:19:14.000 Right, right.
01:19:17.000 You're robbing attention from these things.
01:19:20.000 There it is.
01:19:20.000 Yeah.
01:19:22.000 There it is.
01:19:22.000 Well, I've always found that, like, my best workouts are in silence.
01:19:22.000 Yeah.
01:19:26.000 It's like, you don't, it's so hard to work out.
01:19:28.000 Like, you really need to only be thinking about what you're doing.
01:19:31.000 Yeah.
01:19:31.000 And if you add in a bunch of stuff, except music, music is always fuel for workouts.
01:19:36.000 That's different.
01:19:37.000 Sure.
01:19:38.000 Books, it's like music you can listen and then stop listening.
01:19:41.000 You could be in the middle of a set.
01:19:42.000 It doesn't distract you with lyrics, it just keeps, just gives you some energy in the air.
01:19:47.000 Music is the ultimate companion for working out.
01:19:50.000 Yeah, no doubt.
01:19:51.000 No doubt.
01:19:52.000 So much so that David Goggins doesn't use it because he says it's cheating.
01:19:57.000 What?
01:19:57.000 He goes, it's cheating.
01:19:58.000 You know, because he's just a complete total psycho. 1.00
01:20:01.000 Is that that like. 0.99
01:20:04.000 Ultra marathon guy?
01:20:05.000 Yeah.
01:20:06.000 Okay, I thought it was the live forever guy.
01:20:08.000 Oh, no, no, no.
01:20:09.000 That's Brian Johnson.
01:20:10.000 That's the guy who has his son's blood injected into him.
01:20:13.000 Yeah, that dude.
01:20:14.000 I'm sorry.
01:20:14.000 I'm confusing this.
01:20:15.000 David Goggins is a totally different guy.
01:20:17.000 He's the Navy SEAL who runs.
01:20:20.000 I think he.
01:20:21.000 How many ultra marathons did he run in a month?
01:20:23.000 Something insane.
01:20:25.000 He runs 100 mile races and he's like an insane fitness freak.
01:20:30.000 Oh, wow.
01:20:31.000 And when he works out, he has these workouts where, famously, he'll take professional fighters and they work out with them and they can't keep up and they're just throwing up.
01:20:38.000 I just can't believe how much this guy works out.
01:20:41.000 And he's doing it easy where he's just talking to them the entire time and they can't keep up.
01:20:45.000 He finished eight 100 mile marathons in eight consecutive weekends.
01:20:50.000 So he ran 800 miles in eight weekends. 0.66
01:20:57.000 He's a nut. 0.92
01:20:58.000 Wow. 0.98
01:20:58.000 And he does, like, he'll be, like, at home and just decide, I'm going to do a 60 mile ruck right now. 0.98
01:21:06.000 And just, like, throws on a backpack, gets outside, and starts rucking.
01:21:10.000 And he'll just do 60 miles.
01:21:12.000 And so he'll go out there for hours and hours, just decides, this is what I'm going to do, and I'll not stop until I'm done.
01:21:17.000 And he does it all the time.
01:21:18.000 Whoa.
01:21:19.000 He's in insane shape.
01:21:20.000 And he's 50.
01:21:21.000 He's in insane shape.
01:21:21.000 Wow.
01:21:23.000 He also has no knees.
01:21:24.000 His knees are completely destroyed.
01:21:26.000 They're bone on bone.
01:21:26.000 Oh, from pounding on them.
01:21:28.000 He's had a ton of operations, doesn't care, keeps going on bone on bone. 0.94
01:21:32.000 Like, but it's just a maniac. 0.94
01:21:34.000 God. 0.93
01:21:35.000 It's a complete and total maniac, but he doesn't use music because he says it's cheating. 0.63
01:21:39.000 Wow.
01:21:41.000 That's amazing.
01:21:43.000 But that just shows you I like to cheat.
01:21:45.000 I like to use that music.
01:21:47.000 I like to cheat.
01:21:48.000 I need to cheat to get that energy extra. 0.99
01:21:50.000 I mean, I can do it myself, maybe, but why would I when I go, I mean, give me that fucking music. 0.98
01:22:00.000 Yeah, I mean,. 0.99
01:22:01.000 If it's cheating, I'm going to cheat at that.
01:22:03.000 Yeah, that's not cheating.
01:22:05.000 I don't think of it as cheating.
01:22:06.000 That's called inspiration.
01:22:07.000 Yes, it's an awesome supplement.
01:22:09.000 That's what I call it.
01:22:10.000 Supplement, there you go.
01:22:11.000 But for him, it's all about mental strength.
01:22:13.000 And so he considers it cheating to use that mental strength.
01:22:17.000 Your mental strength should be right from your brain.
01:22:20.000 He goes, You can't always count on that music.
01:22:21.000 That music's not always going to be there.
01:22:23.000 I'm like, Okay.
01:22:25.000 I guess so.
01:22:25.000 He kind of has a point.
01:22:27.000 I get it.
01:22:28.000 Do what you're doing.
01:22:29.000 For what he does, he kind of has a point.
01:22:32.000 Yeah, I could see that.
01:22:34.000 He's focusing.
01:22:35.000 Yeah.
01:22:36.000 No distractions.
01:22:37.000 Yeah, he says he's gaining knowledge.
01:22:39.000 He says, I'm gaining knowledge.
01:22:41.000 I'm acquiring knowledge.
01:22:43.000 I believe him.
01:22:44.000 I believe him because he's thinking he's going into the dark realms of his mind.
01:22:48.000 Whoa, dude.
01:22:49.000 Intense suffering, running 100 mile races eight weekends in a row.
01:22:53.000 He's doing some serious other work while he's running.
01:22:57.000 That's the real deep introspective work.
01:23:00.000 You want to find out who you really are?
01:23:02.000 Run eight 100 mile races in eight weeks.
01:23:05.000 Imagine those conversations you're having with yourself. 0.99
01:23:07.000 What the fuck am I doing? 0.99
01:23:09.000 No, dude, you got this. 1.00
01:23:10.000 You got this. 1.00
01:23:11.000 No, dude, you're an idiot. 1.00
01:23:13.000 No, bro. 1.00
01:23:14.000 Fuck yes. 1.00
01:23:15.000 I think he probably used to have those conversations. 1.00
01:23:18.000 Now it's just battling demons.
01:23:20.000 It's all just demons, just crushing down negative thoughts, crushing down weakness.
01:23:26.000 You know?
01:23:27.000 I know. 1.00
01:23:28.000 Fuck. 1.00
01:23:29.000 There's a lot of different kinds of people in this world, Tommy. 1.00
01:23:31.000 Yeah, there are, dude.
01:23:32.000 It's pretty crazy out there.
01:23:33.000 I bet you've met every variety of them.
01:23:35.000 Just about.
01:23:37.000 Oh, my God.
01:23:39.000 That's funny.
01:23:42.000 Wow. 0.98
01:23:43.000 There's some crazy people in this world. 0.93
01:23:43.000 I know. 0.93
01:23:45.000 Yeah, there is.
01:23:46.000 But we need all of them.
01:23:47.000 We need our Tommy Lee's.
01:23:48.000 We need our David Lee Ross.
01:23:51.000 We need our David Goggins.
01:23:53.000 We need all those people.
01:23:54.000 That's what makes the world beautiful.
01:23:56.000 There are so many different people. 0.99
01:23:58.000 You can meet someone like, fuck, I never met a guy like him. 1.00
01:24:00.000 That's nuts. 1.00
01:24:01.000 Yeah, that is wonderful.
01:24:03.000 Isn't it wonderful? 0.98
01:24:05.000 I mean, you must have met every fucking human being that's ever lived, practically. 0.98
01:24:08.000 Dude, I feel like it. 0.99
01:24:11.000 Just about.
01:24:14.000 I mean, you've been famous since what year did Motley Crue really break out?
01:24:18.000 It's like 80?
01:24:20.000 80.
01:24:21.000 That's nuts.
01:24:22.000 Yeah.
01:24:23.000 Boy, the world was a different place.
01:24:25.000 Bro.
01:24:28.000 The world was a different place.
01:24:29.000 No internet.
01:24:31.000 No, no cell phones.
01:24:32.000 Who was president in 1980?
01:24:36.000 Was that even Reagan yet?
01:24:40.000 Almost.
01:24:41.000 When did Reagan become president? 1.00
01:24:43.000 Yeah, fuck. 1.00
01:24:46.000 Reagan was president when I was in high school. 1.00
01:24:48.000 Who the fuck was that? 0.99
01:24:49.000 That was in the 80s. 0.99
01:24:51.000 What year, Jamie?
01:24:52.000 Started in 81.
01:24:53.000 81.
01:24:54.000 So 1980, Reagan wasn't even president yet. 0.98
01:24:57.000 Fuck, who was president? 0.99
01:24:59.000 How'd it be Jimmy Carter, right? 1.00
01:25:01.000 That sounds right.
01:25:02.000 Wasn't it Jimmy Carter before Reagan?
01:25:04.000 Yeah.
01:25:04.000 Yeah.
01:25:05.000 So it was Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan.
01:25:08.000 Whoa, dude.
01:25:09.000 Wow, isn't that nuts?
01:25:10.000 1980.
01:25:12.000 What was that scene like?
01:25:14.000 Bro, that was, I'm still to this day.
01:25:23.000 Motley did, we did this movie called The Dirt, and it's based on our autobiography from certain years, from this year to this year. 0.97
01:25:35.000 And it kind of like, it shows how it fucking was.
01:25:42.000 And one of the coolest things ever is when I'll see emails from fans or questions from fans, and they're like, dude, Was it and these are from like you know 18 year old kids are like was it really like that? 0.99
01:26:00.000 When you guys were rocking shit like that I was like 100 They're like fuck We and they're bummed. 0.99
01:26:11.000 They're like we will never ever get to experience that fuck Like it was just full on till the wheels fall off no that you could get away with fucking murder Literally, there's no phones and no. 1.00
01:26:29.000 This was at a time where anything goes. 1.00
01:26:37.000 Pretty much.
01:26:39.000 Pretty much.
01:26:40.000 How old were you in 1980?
01:26:42.000 In 1980, I was 18.
01:26:45.000 Jesus Christ.
01:26:47.000 18, 17?
01:26:49.000 So you're blowing up at 18 years old. 1.00
01:26:53.000 How the fuck did you manage? 1.00
01:26:55.000 I know, dude. 1.00
01:26:56.000 Look at that picture.
01:26:57.000 That's crazy.
01:26:58.000 That looks like a picture from like.
01:27:01.000 1940. 1.00
01:27:02.000 Looks like a fucking world. 0.99
01:27:02.000 Right? 0.99
01:27:04.000 I know.
01:27:05.000 Even the font from Motley Crue looks ancient.
01:27:09.000 Totally.
01:27:10.000 Wow.
01:27:11.000 God, dude.
01:27:12.000 Does that even seem real when you look at that picture?
01:27:12.000 What is that?
01:27:17.000 Look at our fucking little cheesy cloth backdrop. 1.00
01:27:20.000 That's dope. 1.00
01:27:20.000 See the wrinkles and the fabric. 1.00
01:27:21.000 That's with the whiskey.
01:27:22.000 That's with the whiskey.
01:27:23.000 Yeah.
01:27:23.000 Too fast for love.
01:27:23.000 The whiskey.
01:27:25.000 Fucking great song. 1.00
01:27:26.000 And that fucking drum riser, that right there with the lights in it. 1.00
01:27:32.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:27:34.000 My dad, fucking, and my dad, myself, and my drum tech, we built that riser, dude. 1.00
01:27:41.000 Like it had fucking switches. 1.00
01:27:43.000 My dad was a mechanic. 0.99
01:27:45.000 And so my dad built, he, you know, he's like, you need a drum riser?
01:27:51.000 All right, let's go.
01:27:53.000 I mean, dude, he would, my dad would, built us a pyro. 0.93
01:27:58.000 Fucking he, like, drilled out these, or cut these big blocks of wood, ran electrical prongs up through the wood, and then you take a little small wire and you connect the tube, put a pipe over it, Fill it with gunpowder, and we'd be out in my backyard, dude. 0.92
01:28:19.000 And the neighbors would be all of a sudden just like fire. 1.00
01:28:22.000 There's these fucking mushroom clouds in my backyard, and the neighbors are like, What the fuck is going on? 0.99
01:28:30.000 And my dad, like, he just loved it. 1.00
01:28:33.000 He's like making bombs, lighting rigs, drum risers. 0.98
01:28:37.000 And then he would drive me to the gigs and in his van with all my shit. 0.99
01:28:44.000 Like, I had the best dad fucking ever. 0.99
01:28:46.000 That's awesome. 0.99
01:28:47.000 Yeah.
01:28:48.000 And here's a mechanic, okay? 0.99
01:28:49.000 Look at this fucking setup, bro. 1.00
01:28:51.000 This is nuts. 1.00
01:28:52.000 Oh, dude.
01:28:53.000 The hamster wheel?
01:28:53.000 Right?
01:28:54.000 Yeah.
01:28:56.000 That is crazy.
01:28:57.000 Yeah, that's nuts.
01:28:58.000 Bro, you were doing drums like halfway upside down.
01:29:01.000 Dude, the thing was gyroscoped.
01:29:03.000 It went around, you know, right to left, back to front.
01:29:08.000 What is it like trying to play the drums from that position, though?
01:29:10.000 That's got to be very weird.
01:29:12.000 Dude, it is insane.
01:29:15.000 Like, I had to change so many dynamics.
01:29:18.000 Like, think about it.
01:29:21.000 Instead of gravity, instead of gravity pulling your hand down, right?
01:29:25.000 Right.
01:29:27.000 Now you've got to push.
01:29:29.000 Oh, yeah.
01:29:30.000 You're upside down.
01:29:31.000 So it becomes three times harder physically.
01:29:35.000 And also you had to make adjustments.
01:29:37.000 So I don't know how much you know about drums, but on your pedals, they're foot pedals for your bass drums, right?
01:29:44.000 Well, and those are chain driven pedal footboards.
01:29:49.000 So when you go upside down, They fall.
01:29:54.000 So I had to put springs underneath the pedals to keep them taut so they would stay up.
01:30:00.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:30:01.000 Oh, yeah.
01:30:02.000 So I had, and with cymbals, they're meant to hang a certain way.
01:30:07.000 They're not meant to hang upside down.
01:30:09.000 So I had to make all these crazy adjustments technically to pull it off.
01:30:13.000 But we figured it out with the hi hat too, because a hi hat would, you know, the two cymbals that, they would just, if you're upside down, they just, They just go open.
01:30:24.000 They open.
01:30:25.000 So I had to do another spring as well to keep that closed so I could manually drive it. 0.99
01:30:31.000 It's all this crazy shit. 0.94
01:30:32.000 Why did you decide to do that? 1.00
01:30:34.000 Like, what was just something rad?
01:30:37.000 That all started, and it's kind of been my thing throughout history.
01:30:37.000 You know what?
01:30:42.000 And every year I do something fucking different and crazier, of course. 0.95
01:30:47.000 Everybody's like, what are you going to do next year? 0.78
01:30:48.000 What are you going to do next year?
01:30:51.000 That's sort of like, that's where it all started.
01:30:54.000 And it really started when I went to go see. 0.99
01:30:57.000 It was fucking Pat Travers. 0.95
01:31:02.000 Do you remember Pat Travers' band? 0.99
01:31:03.000 No.
01:31:04.000 Boom, boom, out go the lights.
01:31:05.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:31:06.000 Yeah.
01:31:07.000 Yeah, anyway, they were cool.
01:31:07.000 Okay.
01:31:09.000 And I went to go see them.
01:31:11.000 And Tommy Aldrich was the drummer.
01:31:13.000 And this is before Motley.
01:31:15.000 I'm just like, whoa, dude. 1.00
01:31:17.000 I'm like a fucking kid standing on the chair. 1.00
01:31:20.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
01:31:21.000 Right? 1.00
01:31:22.000 And it's drum solo time.
01:31:24.000 And he's a badass. 0.99
01:31:26.000 And he's fucking ripping, dude. 0.99
01:31:28.000 All you see is sticks flying and hair fucking going. 1.00
01:31:31.000 He's shredding. 0.99
01:31:32.000 And I'm looking around. 0.99
01:31:34.000 And I'm watching people go get a beer, people going to pee, going to get a t shirt, going out to the lobby to fucking smoke a joint. 0.97
01:31:44.000 I don't know, whatever. 0.99
01:31:44.000 Everybody's kind of leaving, and I'm like, Where the fuck is everybody going? 0.99
01:31:48.000 That guy is murdering the fucking drums right now. 1.00
01:31:53.000 And y'all are like, He failed to capture their attention. 0.99
01:31:58.000 And from that moment on, I went, I need to figure out A, how to give the audience a better view of what you're actually doing there because people can't see.
01:32:09.000 It's not like a guitar.
01:32:10.000 Right, right, right.
01:32:11.000 Where you can see, Oh, there's the roller coaster.
01:32:15.000 That's the.
01:32:17.000 That's the crucify, dude.
01:32:18.000 That's so dope.
01:32:20.000 That's the latest one. 1.00
01:32:21.000 That thing went from the front all the way to the back of the fucking arena or stadium. 1.00
01:32:26.000 That's crazy, dude. 0.99
01:32:28.000 And look at it, and then it starts twirling as it's going down.
01:32:33.000 Oh my God, you're upside down. 0.56
01:32:34.000 That's so sick.
01:32:35.000 Look at that, dude. 0.96
01:32:36.000 That is so sick. 0.89
01:32:39.000 The audience must go bananas.
01:32:41.000 Yeah, at one point, the roller coaster comes down and it's literally almost, they could almost touch you.
01:32:46.000 Wow. 1.00
01:32:47.000 Look at that shit, dude. 1.00
01:32:49.000 I think that is the. 1.00
01:32:50.000 How do you not get a crazy head rush when you're upside down banging on the drums?
01:32:54.000 Dude, it is so gnarly.
01:32:56.000 I'm wrecked.
01:32:57.000 It's nine minutes total.
01:32:58.000 Must do a lot for your core, too, right? 1.00
01:33:00.000 Oh, fucking, hold yourself. 1.00
01:33:03.000 Dude, I'm on the oxygen bottle. 1.00
01:33:06.000 When I finish, I go all the way out and then I do it all backwards.
01:33:10.000 I go back and do it backwards.
01:33:10.000 Whoa.
01:33:12.000 And by the time I get done, I'm sitting there with the oxygen going while Mick does a guitar solo. 0.99
01:33:19.000 I need a couple seconds because I am fucking. 0.99
01:33:22.000 Done. 0.99
01:33:23.000 I can imagine, man.
01:33:24.000 It's incredible cardio.
01:33:27.000 It's like shadow boxing for minutes at a time, hardcore, super fast.
01:33:31.000 Yeah.
01:33:32.000 I've always admired the physical fitness.
01:33:34.000 Or on the punching bag.
01:33:35.000 Just constantly.
01:33:35.000 Yeah.
01:33:36.000 And you know what that's like, man. 0.99
01:33:37.000 After a fucking minute of that, you're like, ugh. 0.99
01:33:40.000 I know. 0.99
01:33:41.000 The physical fitness involved in playing drums must be really crazy.
01:33:44.000 Like, if you didn't play drums for like a few years and then picked it up again and started again, it'd probably take forever to get that endurance back.
01:33:50.000 Forever, dude.
01:33:51.000 Because it's so, like, when you're going off.
01:33:53.000 Dude, you're so fast.
01:33:55.000 You're going through it.
01:33:56.000 It's so fast, dude. 0.99
01:33:58.000 It's like everything's fucking moving. 0.99
01:34:01.000 You're pounding your feet and everything. 1.00
01:34:03.000 Like, fuck, man. 1.00
01:34:04.000 I know. 1.00
01:34:05.000 It's one of the most athletic things in all of music.
01:34:07.000 It really is, man.
01:34:09.000 And I had this. 0.97
01:34:11.000 I was like, okay, how come I've weighed the same weight since fucking high school till today? 0.98
01:34:20.000 Right. 0.99
01:34:21.000 And I'm like, that's fucking weird. 0.99
01:34:22.000 And I eat kind of whatever the fuck I want to eat. 0.99
01:34:25.000 There's no. 0.97
01:34:25.000 Like, I don't. 0.97
01:34:26.000 I don't like.
01:34:27.000 Diet or have some strict, you know, regimented food program. 0.98
01:34:32.000 I was like, I'm gonna fucking, I gotta see. 0.99
01:34:36.000 I got one of those. 0.96
01:34:38.000 This was years ago. 0.94
01:34:39.000 It was like a pedometer you clip onto your shoe, like joggers would use it to see how. 0.97
01:34:44.000 There's like the old version.
01:34:45.000 You just clipped it on your shoe and it told you how many miles you did.
01:34:50.000 Like a little tachometer, not a tachometer.
01:34:53.000 Yeah, I know.
01:34:54.000 Yeah.
01:34:54.000 Pedometer.
01:34:55.000 So I'm like, I get one.
01:34:57.000 I clip it on. 0.96
01:34:58.000 I'm like, I wonder what, how many fucking miles I'm doing after a two hour show. 0.97
01:35:05.000 I don't know. 1.00
01:35:05.000 Fuck. 1.00
01:35:06.000 Who knows? 1.00
01:35:07.000 I know I'm sweaty as fuck and I'm after the show all I hear is ringing in my ear and I'm fucking wrecked. 0.98
01:35:16.000 I'm done. 0.98
01:35:18.000 And I fucking took it off after the show and I looked down and it said 13.3 miles. 0.99
01:35:25.000 And I was like, so that's why I don't fucking, that's why I'm just skinny fuck. 0.99
01:35:31.000 And like I just, I sweated out of it. 0.99
01:35:34.000 Travis Sparker, same deal.
01:35:36.000 Yeah, I mean he wore that belt as well, but it's like same deal.
01:35:36.000 Same deal.
01:35:39.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:35:40.000 It's like incredible amounts of cardio.
01:35:42.000 The amount of.
01:35:43.000 I wonder how many calories you burn in a two hour show.
01:35:45.000 It's got to be off the charts.
01:35:46.000 Yeah, that I haven't measured.
01:35:48.000 Because it's not just jogging.
01:35:50.000 It's not like you're running 13 miles.
01:35:51.000 Obviously, you're sitting still.
01:35:53.000 But the pounding of the arms.
01:35:54.000 Yes.
01:35:55.000 And the breathing. 1.00
01:35:56.000 You've got to fucking control your legs. 0.99
01:35:58.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:35:59.000 It's like, God.
01:36:00.000 Yeah, everything's going, man.
01:36:01.000 You're firing on a whole cylinder.
01:36:03.000 For sure, the most athletic thing in all of music.
01:36:06.000 For sure.
01:36:07.000 Nothing even close.
01:36:09.000 Yeah, no.
01:36:09.000 Right?
01:36:10.000 I mean, playing guitars, you're moving your hands and everything, but it's not nearly.
01:36:15.000 Drums are like, it's more like a sport.
01:36:17.000 It really is.
01:36:19.000 You don't see a really out of shape drummer.
01:36:22.000 No.
01:36:23.000 You know?
01:36:23.000 It's almost like you can't be to keep up.
01:36:26.000 No, I know. 0.99
01:36:27.000 And everybody's, you're kind of like, you're the fucking heartbeat, man. 0.99
01:36:32.000 You're really, everybody's kind of, you know, people say your band's only as good as your drummer. 0.98
01:36:40.000 And that's really fucking, It's really true, and I'm not just saying that because I'm a drummer, but the drummer has a lot of responsibility, man. 0.70
01:36:47.000 Everybody, all the people that you see out there that are moving, I'm responsible for a lot of that. 0.98
01:36:56.000 I'm not saying it for all of it, right?
01:36:57.000 You sort of set the pace, you know, and you're making people physically move, yes, like that.
01:37:08.000 That's that takes a lot of work, you know.
01:37:11.000 So the amount of energy you're putting out, you're getting back, and you're seeing it, and you're like.
01:37:16.000 I'm driving here.
01:37:17.000 Yeah.
01:37:18.000 And that's a cool place to be, but it is a responsibility and it is physical and it's draining, but it's fucking rad.
01:37:25.000 I live for it.
01:37:26.000 Did you take lessons to learn how to drum or did you learn on your own?
01:37:31.000 I didn't really take lessons.
01:37:34.000 I learned on my own until, I mean, kind of early in high school, I played in the marching band, but that wasn't really like drums. 0.99
01:37:44.000 That was more like, like drum corps stuff, like rudiments and like you know, drum corps shit.
01:37:52.000 It not really the whole kit till later.
01:37:55.000 Um I, I got the school, my high school, to let me or sorry, my grade school to let me borrow with the drum, the jazz drum set at the school, and i'd bring it home and then I started just like listening to my favorite and I would just play along and I so I never really took any physical lessons, I just It was just in me, man.
01:38:18.000 I was just like, I'm really good at hearing something and going, oh, okay, I got it.
01:38:23.000 Did you have to learn how to hold the sticks?
01:38:24.000 Do you hold the sticks in a conventional way that you're taught, or did you just figure it out on your own?
01:38:30.000 I just figured it out on my own.
01:38:33.000 Probably just moved on from the forks and the spoons.
01:38:36.000 It's interesting how many great musicians learned on their own.
01:38:40.000 Like Hendrix.
01:38:40.000 Yeah.
01:38:41.000 Hendrix taught himself to play guitar.
01:38:43.000 That's why he played it upside down, left handed.
01:38:45.000 He just made it work.
01:38:46.000 Yeah.
01:38:47.000 Just figured out how to do it on his own.
01:38:49.000 It's really interesting how, like, with you know, when you just get an instrument and listen to other people use it and learn how they're doing it and just kind of fuck around with it and figure it out.
01:39:01.000 And then doing it your own way.
01:39:02.000 Yeah.
01:39:03.000 And then, whoa, then you got your own thing, which is, that's wonderful, man.
01:39:03.000 Of course.
01:39:07.000 Well, if you think about early rock and roll versus the way drums are played, like you play, or like Travis plays, like some elite drummer plays, it's like drums are so much more powerful now than ever before.
01:39:21.000 I know, man.
01:39:23.000 And then that thing happens.
01:39:25.000 I don't know if you've ever been around like a drum circle.
01:39:29.000 The more drummers there are, like all of a sudden it just becomes this thing.
01:39:34.000 It grows into this tribal, like, Dude, everybody's just being moved by rhythm.
01:39:40.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:39:40.000 And fuck, that's so powerful. 1.00
01:39:42.000 It's like, you know, I don't know. 1.00
01:39:45.000 That kind of, it's a more aggressive power than the kind of power where you can make somebody fucking cry playing the piano. 0.97
01:39:52.000 Right. 0.76
01:39:52.000 Playing the right chords. 0.76
01:39:53.000 Right.
01:39:54.000 I watch them cry.
01:39:56.000 Yeah, right?
01:39:57.000 Yeah.
01:39:58.000 But yeah, that's fun, man.
01:39:59.000 There's nothing better than rhythm, man. 1.00
01:40:03.000 I live for that shit. 1.00
01:40:04.000 No, I can tell. 1.00
01:40:05.000 I was getting in trouble all the time, man, in school because I'd always be like, Always, always.
01:40:13.000 Can you stop tapping on the tables?
01:40:15.000 Yep.
01:40:16.000 Sorry.
01:40:17.000 We sit back in the back of class and be like, making like water drip noises.
01:40:25.000 Everyone's looking around for a leak. 0.87
01:40:28.000 Class clown. 0.71
01:40:29.000 Well, there's something about drums that it's like a part of tribal culture. 0.96
01:40:32.000 Like from the beginning of human time, people pounding on drums.
01:40:38.000 I mean, yeah, they pounded it on ships to keep pace with the rowing.
01:40:42.000 You know, there was a guy that was the drummer on a ship.
01:40:45.000 You know, to make sure everybody keeps pace.
01:40:45.000 Yeah.
01:40:48.000 It's kind of wild.
01:40:49.000 You know, they knew even back then there's something about the sound of drums that's important.
01:40:49.000 Isn't that cool?
01:40:58.000 The heartbeat. 1.00
01:41:01.000 Do you ever fuck around with bongos? 1.00
01:41:03.000 Oh, sure. 1.00
01:41:04.000 Yeah, those, a lot of handed instruments, bongos, congas.
01:41:09.000 I just, the last couple of years, been playing.
01:41:13.000 A hand drum.
01:41:14.000 People call them a hang drum, hand drum.
01:41:17.000 You know them, have you seen them? 1.00
01:41:18.000 They're like, they look like a fucking flying saucer. 0.97
01:41:20.000 Oh yeah, I have brass yeah, and they're really melodic, really beautiful Zenny sounding instrument. 0.99
01:41:27.000 That's cool because it's percussive and melodic so you can come up with these really bitching depending on how the instrument's tuned and stuff.
01:41:36.000 But that's been a lot of fun that.
01:41:38.000 That's cool, like sort of a different kind of rhythm, but It's a soothing one. 0.99
01:41:46.000 It's a total opposite of the aggressive shit. 0.99
01:41:49.000 Right, right, right. 0.99
01:41:51.000 Well, I mean, it must be fun since you've been playing drums for so long.
01:41:55.000 Just experiment with different things.
01:41:58.000 I love that, man. 0.99
01:42:01.000 I'm always searching for a new sound, you know, a new percussive sound that moves you, makes you fucking, I don't know, that gets inside you. 0.99
01:42:14.000 Right. 0.98
01:42:14.000 I'm always on the hunt, dude. 0.98
01:42:17.000 I'm such a tweaker.
01:42:18.000 Like, you know, I'll find something that sonically sounds like a drum.
01:42:22.000 It could be a drum.
01:42:23.000 It's not.
01:42:24.000 And I'll make it.
01:42:25.000 I'll turn it into something that sounds like a drum.
01:42:27.000 And all of a sudden, you know, that, you know, I don't know, hitting on these elk horns or something sounds like a woodblock, but pitched way, way down, it more sounds like a note going, ooh, ooh.
01:42:43.000 Like, I'm just, I love percussion and rhythm.
01:42:43.000 I don't know.
01:42:47.000 So I'm always fucking around trying to find. 0.95
01:42:49.000 Find something that moves us, you know? 0.98
01:42:53.000 That's my job.
01:42:54.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:42:55.000 Cool fucking job. 0.99
01:42:56.000 I'm here to move you, man. 1.00
01:42:59.000 It's a cool fucking job. 0.99
01:43:01.000 Yeah, I like it, man. 0.99
01:43:02.000 It doesn't suck.
01:43:03.000 No. 0.92
01:43:03.000 It doesn't suck. 0.92
01:43:04.000 No.
01:43:06.000 When you're working on a new song, when you're creating a new song, what is your process?
01:43:11.000 Do you have a beat in your head? 0.99
01:43:13.000 Do you sit down and just start fucking around until something comes to you? 1.00
01:43:18.000 How do you do it? 1.00
01:43:19.000 You know what?
01:43:19.000 It's always different.
01:43:20.000 I wish I could say I had a thing.
01:43:24.000 I really don't, man.
01:43:24.000 A process.
01:43:26.000 It'll be something that happened to me or something I'm experiencing will spark a word or a chant. 0.99
01:43:36.000 All of a sudden, you know, then that'll I'll pick up a fucking guitar and be like, oh, this is killer. 0.98
01:43:41.000 Or sometimes they come with a beat. 1.00
01:43:43.000 I'm like, oh, this is a fucking killer beat. 1.00
01:43:45.000 This would be great. 0.99
01:43:46.000 And then I'll start with a beat and then start, then add guitars.
01:43:50.000 It's never really, there's not really like a format.
01:43:53.000 I just kind of go with what, whatever sort of inspiring me at the time that feel like I need to write about.
01:44:00.000 Um, yeah, there's not really like a way.
01:44:04.000 I know a lot of people have a methodical way, like, well, I start with.
01:44:08.000 The lyric first.
01:44:09.000 Always the lyric first.
01:44:11.000 Nothing else is important.
01:44:12.000 Okay, dude. 1.00
01:44:15.000 Why don't we get people to move first before you try to seduce them with these fucking crazy words? 0.99
01:44:21.000 Actually, no one's going to even. 0.99
01:44:22.000 Spoken like a true drummer. 0.99
01:44:24.000 No one's going to even get to these fucking words if you can't get them to stay listening. 0.99
01:44:29.000 Right, right. 0.99
01:44:30.000 They're like, oh, this is nice.
01:44:30.000 Or to move.
01:44:32.000 Right.
01:44:33.000 Isn't that the key moment when you're like, ooh, this is cool?
01:44:37.000 Before you've even heard a lyric or a melody.
01:44:42.000 That's kind of my priority is like, is it moving me?
01:44:47.000 Yeah.
01:44:48.000 Okay, let's go.
01:44:49.000 It seems like having a bunch of different methods to get there is probably better anyway.
01:44:53.000 Yes.
01:44:54.000 Because there's all sorts of different paths to get to the prize.
01:44:57.000 Right.
01:44:58.000 And having a bunch of different methods of creativity is probably better.
01:45:02.000 It's going to give you something.
01:45:03.000 It frees you up more.
01:45:04.000 Different results, right?
01:45:05.000 Instead of being, okay, well, it's going to start to sound the same if you keep using the same method.
01:45:05.000 Yeah.
01:45:11.000 Yeah.
01:45:12.000 When you write, do you write down on paper?
01:45:14.000 Yeah.
01:45:14.000 Or do you just, yeah, yeah, paper?
01:45:18.000 No, you ever write on computer or do you ever like just write in your own head?
01:45:23.000 You ever just like, I use a computer a lot too, um, a lot for, excuse me, for demos.
01:45:28.000 That's a really quick way to, you know, where I can present a song to the band where you know, I play guitar, sing, drums, bass, so I'll bring in demos that totally created by you.
01:45:43.000 So, yeah, just sounds they sound finished, you know, it's like, okay, and then you know.
01:45:48.000 And we'll go from there.
01:45:49.000 So, yeah, I always try to like, you know, not finish everything entirely because, you know, when you're in a band with three other guys who also create, kind of leave it open for that.
01:46:02.000 But, yeah, I'd use the computer a lot to sort of compose the ideas and get them recorded, sort of produce them.
01:46:13.000 It's really beautiful that, you know, Motley Crue hit in 1980.
01:46:19.000 Here we are.
01:46:21.000 46 years later, and you still love it.
01:46:24.000 I know.
01:46:25.000 That's so awesome.
01:46:26.000 Isn't that crazy?
01:46:27.000 That's what everybody wants in this life something that they're passionate about that remains a passion.
01:46:34.000 It stays, and if anything, grows as a passion.
01:46:38.000 Still exciting, still enticing, still captivates you.
01:46:43.000 1980.
01:46:43.000 Yeah.
01:46:45.000 The world was a different place.
01:46:45.000 I know.
01:46:47.000 I mean, think about where we were in the universe.
01:46:51.000 In 1980, and how the entire solar system is spiraling through the galaxy, which is spiraling through space.
01:46:59.000 Like, we've moved how many fucking million miles since 1980?
01:47:06.000 I know. 0.97
01:47:07.000 That's hard to think about.
01:47:08.000 You know, have you ever seen what the, you know, we always want to think about the sun being in the center of our solar system and the planets spinning around it.
01:47:17.000 But have you ever seen what the whole solar system looks like, like moving through space?
01:47:22.000 The whole thing's moving through space.
01:47:25.000 It's not stationary.
01:47:27.000 It's not like we're sat there and we're just spinning around.
01:47:30.000 Yeah, and everybody else is just. 0.99
01:47:32.000 The fucking whole thing. 0.99
01:47:33.000 Thing is hurling through space. 0.99
01:47:35.000 So in 1980, we were in a totally different spot in the universe.
01:47:42.000 That's crazy.
01:47:44.000 That is crazy.
01:47:45.000 The world was different.
01:47:46.000 People were different.
01:47:48.000 Information was different.
01:47:51.000 Our version of reality was different.
01:47:53.000 Everything.
01:47:54.000 Everything was different. 1.00
01:47:56.000 Fuck. 1.00
01:47:57.000 And you wrote it out from answering machines to pagers to fucking. 1.00
01:48:04.000 Sidekicks to iPhones to the internet to everything like remember the Motorola brick phone. 0.99
01:48:11.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, dude.
01:48:13.000 You're a pimp if you have one of those. 0.98
01:48:17.000 Look at it. 0.99
01:48:17.000 This is what it looks like. 0.99
01:48:18.000 This is see, most people think our solar system looks like, but this is what it actually is doing.
01:48:24.000 Oh, it's how our solar system actually moves.
01:48:27.000 So, look, the sun's hurling through space, and all the planets are spinning around it as it hurls through space.
01:48:33.000 Isn't that crazy?
01:48:35.000 Where's Earth?
01:48:36.000 There, Earth is the third planet from the sun.
01:48:38.000 Oh.
01:48:39.000 The blue one right there.
01:48:40.000 So just think about that.
01:48:40.000 Dude.
01:48:42.000 How many rips?
01:48:43.000 Yeah.
01:48:44.000 How many rips have we done since 1980?
01:48:48.000 Bro. 0.99
01:48:49.000 We're in a different place in the fucking universe than we were in 1980. 0.99
01:48:54.000 Whoa. 0.99
01:48:55.000 How far?
01:48:56.000 Let's ask this.
01:48:57.000 How far has the solar system moved through the universe since 1980?
01:49:02.000 Let's ask Perplexity that.
01:49:04.000 Oh my God.
01:49:05.000 This is one of the best uses of AI. 1.00
01:49:08.000 Stupid information like this. 1.00
01:49:10.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:49:10.000 It is. 1.00
01:49:10.000 Yes. 1.00
01:49:12.000 It is.
01:49:14.000 I'm going to guess 100 million miles.
01:49:20.000 Just a wild guess.
01:49:23.000 I have no idea.
01:49:24.000 I might be off by 100 million.
01:49:31.000 Well, let me see what it looks like.
01:49:34.000 Roughly two to three, I think a light year is a trillion miles.
01:49:38.000 Whoa, dude.
01:49:39.000 Two to three light years through space.
01:49:41.000 Okay, how many miles is a light year?
01:49:44.000 Put that in.
01:49:46.000 I didn't say miles.
01:49:47.000 Right, but how many miles is a light year?
01:49:55.000 I think it's a trillion miles. 1.00
01:49:59.000 Fuck, we're going in. 1.00
01:50:01.000 Oh, a light year is 5.88 trillion miles. 1.00
01:50:04.000 Dude!
01:50:05.000 Okay.
01:50:06.000 So think about that.
01:50:08.000 Think about how many trillions of miles Earth has traveled through the universe since Motley Crue bust out onto the scene.
01:50:18.000 Dude.
01:50:18.000 Think of that.
01:50:19.000 And a trillion is a thousand billion, right?
01:50:22.000 Yes, a thousand billion.
01:50:24.000 How many thousand billion miles has the Earth traveled?
01:50:29.000 Move through.
01:50:30.000 So it was like two to three.
01:50:33.000 It was two to three light years.
01:50:35.000 Okay.
01:50:36.000 And each light year is how many trillion?
01:50:39.000 5.88.
01:50:40.000 5.88.
01:50:41.000 How about that?
01:50:42.000 So you're dealing with roughly 15 plus trillion miles.
01:50:49.000 Dude, we're old. 1.00
01:50:52.000 Old as fuck. 1.00
01:50:53.000 1980, I was in junior high school. 1.00
01:50:56.000 I don't know about old, but fuck, we've traveled. 1.00
01:50:58.000 We have fucking traveled. 1.00
01:51:00.000 Yeah, we have fucking traveled. 1.00
01:51:01.000 Damn. 0.99
01:51:02.000 But that's a Freaky thing to think about how far we're in a different place in the universe. 0.99
01:51:09.000 Boy, thank you for that bit of information.
01:51:11.000 That's nice to, I don't know, just to think about. 0.90
01:51:16.000 Dude, you know how many miles I've fucking traveled, bro? 0.95
01:51:20.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:51:20.000 15 plus trillion. 0.99
01:51:22.000 Just since Motley Crue busted out onto the scene.
01:51:22.000 Trillion.
01:51:25.000 What was it like being that famous at 18?
01:51:27.000 That'd be nuts. 0.99
01:51:29.000 It's fucking bizarre, dude. 0.99
01:51:31.000 Like, I don't even know how to explain it. 0.99
01:51:34.000 Just imagine having the. 0.98
01:51:38.000 The fucking, I don't know, the keys to fucking pretty much anything you wanted to do, try. 0.98
01:51:49.000 What was the first crazy thing you bought when you first started making cheddar? 1.00
01:51:52.000 First thing I bought was my fucking dream car. 1.00
01:51:58.000 It was a fucking 82 Corvette. 1.00
01:52:02.000 Nice. 1.00
01:52:02.000 T top. 1.00
01:52:03.000 T tops popped out.
01:52:05.000 What color?
01:52:06.000 It was a champagne color.
01:52:07.000 Ooh, nice.
01:52:09.000 Yeah, it was kind of silvery gold, kind of a.
01:52:12.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:52:13.000 Fucking rad, dude. 0.98
01:52:15.000 Like, all my whole. 0.99
01:52:16.000 I don't know, when you're a kid.
01:52:17.000 In 82, the Corvette was one of the only American cars worth buying.
01:52:22.000 Because in 82, they were still dope looking.
01:52:25.000 Like, pull up a 1982 Corvette.
01:52:27.000 Yeah, they're still dope. 0.99
01:52:28.000 Like, Mustangs looked like hot dog shit in 82. 1.00
01:52:31.000 They looked fucking terrible. 1.00
01:52:33.000 They looked terrible. 1.00
01:52:34.000 Camaros looked like shit. 1.00
01:52:36.000 Everything looked like shit. 1.00
01:52:37.000 They were all like plastic garbage. 1.00
01:52:39.000 That's still dope. 1.00
01:52:40.000 Yeah.
01:52:41.000 Like, that's still dope today.
01:52:42.000 That's the color I had, dude.
01:52:43.000 Look at that.
01:52:45.000 That's the one.
01:52:45.000 Look at that.
01:52:46.000 That make that bigger.
01:52:47.000 Look at that. 1.00
01:52:49.000 That is a fucking dope car today. 0.99
01:52:52.000 Yeah, it's one of the only American cars from 1982 that looks dope today. 0.99
01:52:57.000 Like, pull up a 1982 Mustang.
01:53:02.000 1982 Mustang is gonna make you want to vomit.
01:53:06.000 I know a lot of people that are like fans of the Fox body.
01:53:09.000 Oh no, look at that.
01:53:10.000 What is that? 1.00
01:53:11.000 It looks like a bitch, bro. 1.00
01:53:13.000 That looks like a gremlin. 1.00
01:53:14.000 It looks like straight horse shit. 1.00
01:53:16.000 That's whatever the fucking. 1.00
01:53:18.000 Russians did to us to make us make cars like this. 1.00
01:53:23.000 Or really, the Nixon administration by fucking blocking drugs. 1.00
01:53:27.000 Look at how ugly that is. 1.00
01:53:29.000 That is fucking disgusting. 1.00
01:53:31.000 That is, dude. 1.00
01:53:33.000 Look how fucking disgusting that is. 0.99
01:53:34.000 Now, I want you to do this. 0.99
01:53:36.000 Pull up a 1969 Boss 429 Mustang.
01:53:42.000 Put up the pinnacle.
01:53:44.000 The pinnacle of muscle cars. 1.00
01:53:47.000 Look at that motherfucker. 1.00
01:53:48.000 Yeah, right. 1.00
01:53:50.000 Look at that. 0.99
01:53:51.000 Fucking hell. 1.00
01:53:51.000 Look at the difference between 1969 and that fucking dog shit 1982. 1.00
01:53:58.000 Extended gremlin. 1.00
01:53:59.000 Motherfucker, look at that thing. 1.00
01:54:01.000 God damn, America. 1.00
01:54:04.000 That's a real car. 1.00
01:54:05.000 That's right. 0.99
01:54:05.000 But they blocked the drugs, they kept those car makers from having drugs and they all make garbage, except Corvette. 0.99
01:54:13.000 Corvette still stuck with that style because Corvettes were fiberglass.
01:54:18.000 So they weren't as limited in terms of the shapes.
01:54:21.000 They had those.
01:54:22.000 Cool swervy lines to them, and they kept those until oddly enough the 90s. 0.89
01:54:29.000 They started getting shitty in the 90s. 0.99
01:54:31.000 Yeah, look at you, dog! 0.98
01:54:32.000 Yeah, there it is, dude.
01:54:33.000 Look at you, dog!
01:54:35.000 Wow, that's crazy. 0.99
01:54:37.000 That's nuts, dude.
01:54:38.000 I wonder who's got that car.
01:54:39.000 I don't know.
01:54:40.000 Somebody has Tommy Lee's 1982 Corvette.
01:54:43.000 Somebody they have to, you know, that thing's still running.
01:54:47.000 Yeah, probably, hopefully.
01:54:49.000 Yeah, well, they a lot of those they take them and make resto mods out of them now.
01:54:53.000 They put like a modern engine and Modern brakes and everything, so they handle better and modern suspension. 0.96
01:54:58.000 Yeah, I immediately immediately fucking me and my buddy just took that car and fucking put a fucking blower and an injection on it. 0.99
01:55:11.000 It's fucking insane, dude. 1.00
01:55:13.000 In the glove box, this is before like now we have you know a bunch of super rad tuned exhaust, you know, uh, you know, straight pipe, loud as fuck. 1.00
01:55:23.000 This is before that, and we. 0.75
01:55:26.000 We made a couple of cutouts.
01:55:28.000 And in the glove box, like if the cops were to come, you just open the glove box and take these two, they're like choke levers, and you pull them out, and the flaps would disconnect them and just go straight from the headers out and bypass the mufflers.
01:55:46.000 So it would just be like, and if the cops were coming, you just push these two choke levers in and back to the mufflers, all quiet.
01:55:56.000 Yeah, they have switches for that now with a lot of cars, like custom made cars.
01:56:01.000 They have exhaust switches that do that, but they don't do it to that extent where it just goes straight pipes.
01:56:06.000 Yeah.
01:56:07.000 Yeah, that must have sounded fucking amazing.
01:56:11.000 Dude, so rad.
01:56:12.000 Yeah, I mean, there's nothing like rock and roll and muscle cars.
01:56:15.000 Like, those are two things that are like completely connected forever. 0.96
01:56:19.000 Yeah, another fucking rad car that I never got, but I always wanted to was like the fucking Shelby Cobra. 0.96
01:56:26.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
01:56:27.000 The big fucking pipes blowing right just loud as fuck. 1.00
01:56:31.000 Like four inch exhaust, like, yep, dude, that's throaty and just tiny little car, little fiberglass car, yeah, go kart with a 427 in it, crazy power, no weight at all. 1.00
01:56:43.000 It weighs nothing, yeah, it just does burnouts the whole time.
01:56:46.000 It's getting too much.
01:56:48.000 I have a buddy of mine who has one of those, it's nuts, like, but it freaks me out.
01:56:51.000 It's like, there's no protection here.
01:56:53.000 If you get in an accident, like, there's like nothing to this car, yeah, you know, you have no roof, you don't even have a roll bar, it's like just got this little tiny windshield, you're behind the wheel of an engine, just a giant engine with.
01:57:05.000 Four wheels.
01:57:05.000 Yeah, you're done.
01:57:07.000 Yeah.
01:57:07.000 One bad move.
01:57:08.000 Pretty dope.
01:57:09.000 Yeah, super rad.
01:57:11.000 Yeah, like one of those. 1.00
01:57:12.000 Like, look at that fucking thing. 1.00
01:57:13.000 Dude, I'm sorry, but that's the fucking sickest shit. 1.00
01:57:17.000 Radical looking. 1.00
01:57:19.000 Oh, look at the flared wheel.
01:57:20.000 The thing is, too, they make a lot of recreations now.
01:57:23.000 The old ones are worth like millions of dollars.
01:57:23.000 Yes.
01:57:25.000 Dude, I know.
01:57:27.000 Yeah.
01:57:27.000 But you can get a recreation and experience the exact same thing.
01:57:31.000 Sure. 0.93
01:57:32.000 There's a ton of recreations now, and they're fucking great. 0.92
01:57:35.000 And they look the same. 0.96
01:57:36.000 And it's like, yeah, it's not worth as much money, but who fucking cares? 0.86
01:57:39.000 Just go drive it. 0.70
01:57:40.000 It's awesome.
01:57:41.000 Yeah.
01:57:41.000 If you just take a look at that thing.
01:57:43.000 Bro, look at that thing slammed.
01:57:43.000 Jeez.
01:57:45.000 Carbon fiber.
01:57:46.000 Oh, my goodness. 1.00
01:57:47.000 Look at that fucking thing. 1.00
01:57:48.000 It's all carbon fiber. 1.00
01:57:49.000 Oh, fuck. 0.99
01:57:50.000 That must weigh 14 pounds. 1.00
01:57:52.000 Let's go get a couple, dude. 0.86
01:57:53.000 Dude, who's making that? 0.99
01:57:56.000 Who's making that fucking thing? 1.00
01:57:56.000 Click on that link. 1.00
01:57:59.000 Yeah, it probably is.
01:58:01.000 Well, I know.
01:58:02.000 Yeah, Classic Recreations.
01:58:03.000 That same company that does those dope 67 GT500s.
01:58:07.000 They're making a Classic Recreations.
01:58:12.000 A thousand horsepower!
01:58:14.000 Dude, it weighs 2,300 pounds.
01:58:14.000 Oh, dude.
01:58:16.000 That's nuts.
01:58:18.000 A thousand?
01:58:21.000 The carbon fiber body is only 88 pounds.
01:58:25.000 Unbelievable.
01:58:27.000 So it's 2,000 pounds of suspension, frame, and wheels and engine.
01:58:34.000 And that's it.
01:58:35.000 That's sick. 0.63
01:58:35.000 Look at that. 0.63
01:58:36.000 That's so sick. 0.53
01:58:38.000 That's just straight trouble right there.
01:58:41.000 That's going to get you in trouble.
01:58:42.000 Or not.
01:58:43.000 Or just enjoy yourself.
01:58:44.000 But it's America.
01:58:44.000 Just fun, yeah.
01:58:47.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
01:58:48.000 Fuck, I love those cars. 1.00
01:58:50.000 What else did you buy that was. 1.00
01:58:51.000 1,000 horsepower.
01:58:52.000 Preposterous.
01:58:52.000 I know.
01:58:53.000 What else did you buy that's nuts? 0.84
01:58:56.000 When they first came out, me and my bass player bought like almost fucking at the same time the Ferrari had come out with the Testarossa. 0.96
01:59:08.000 Oh, the Miami Vice car.
01:59:09.000 Totally, dude.
01:59:11.000 Yeah.
01:59:12.000 I had a car broker find me a black on black one. 1.00
01:59:16.000 And it was just like, fuck. 1.00
01:59:16.000 Oh, man. 1.00
01:59:18.000 Okay.
01:59:19.000 This is insane.
01:59:21.000 The listeners will probably appreciate this. 1.00
01:59:23.000 You buy a fucking car for $200 at a time. 1.00
01:59:27.000 $250,000 for the Testarosa. 1.00
01:59:31.000 Get it shipped from, it came in from Florida to LA.
01:59:36.000 I'm pulling the plastic off the seats, it's brand new.
01:59:40.000 Back it down the car carrier, and I'm in.
01:59:43.000 The dude's kind of showing me, you know, what's up. 0.88
01:59:46.000 And I fucking, I look in this, you know, to the right of the steering wheel, there's like a, like a, looks like a cover.
01:59:55.000 So I grab it and you open it up at that, where the stereo would be. 0.97
02:00:00.000 I open it up.
02:00:02.000 And I go, where's the stereo?
02:00:05.000 The guy goes, oh, Enzo believed that the music that you should be listening to is the sound of the engine. 0.63
02:00:17.000 And I'm like, well, that's fucking rad and everything, Enzo. 0.99
02:00:21.000 But, bro, I just spent a quarter of a million dollars and I want to fucking crank shit loud as fuck here and breaking the speed limit. 0.99
02:00:30.000 Like, come on. 0.99
02:00:32.000 Who does that?
02:00:33.000 And so I had to go.
02:00:34.000 I got a stereo.
02:00:36.000 At the time, there was no subwoofers.
02:00:39.000 There was a bazooka tube available.
02:00:42.000 You could drop.
02:00:43.000 There's no room, too.
02:00:45.000 So you could get a bazooka tube behind the seats. 0.98
02:00:48.000 And some fucking, you know, for a subwoofer and some other speakers in the doors. 0.98
02:00:48.000 Right. 0.98
02:00:53.000 Decent door speakers.
02:00:55.000 Yeah.
02:00:56.000 They were only decent back then.
02:00:57.000 Yeah.
02:00:58.000 And I had an Alpine receiver.
02:01:00.000 Right.
02:01:00.000 And I got it to bump.
02:01:02.000 But. 0.92
02:01:03.000 I just found it fucking just shocking that, like, that much money for a car and you still don't get a stereo. 0.99
02:01:11.000 It's pretty ridiculous. 0.99
02:01:12.000 Yeah. 0.85
02:01:13.000 But they did sound incredible.
02:01:16.000 And I totally get it.
02:01:18.000 The sound that those things make is just like, it's heavenly.
02:01:18.000 Like, you should be listening to them.
02:01:23.000 It's totally different than the American sound of the muscle car sound.
02:01:26.000 The muscle car sound is my all time favorite.
02:01:28.000 But there's something melodic about those Ferrari angels.
02:01:35.000 It's like a sound just like it.
02:01:37.000 Oh, there's a sound that it has.
02:01:38.000 It's like it's so spectacular. 0.98
02:01:40.000 It's just engineering and it's wine and pasta and a fucking windy road. 0.99
02:01:46.000 Totally. 0.99
02:01:47.000 You know, Buongiorno. 1.00
02:01:49.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
02:01:53.000 Fuck yeah, man. 1.00
02:01:55.000 Those things are something special. 1.00
02:01:57.000 And again, what is that?
02:01:59.000 It's artwork.
02:01:59.000 It's a piece of passion.
02:02:00.000 It's artwork that's made into an engineering form.
02:02:05.000 Yeah.
02:02:06.000 That we get to play with.
02:02:07.000 Yeah.
02:02:08.000 Basically a race car.
02:02:09.000 Yeah.
02:02:11.000 Like a friend of mine, we were talking about Ferrari.
02:02:13.000 You think Ferraris are worth it? 0.98
02:02:14.000 I go, listen, man, rich people aren't stupid. 0.99
02:02:17.000 They're not stupid. 0.97
02:02:18.000 If Ferraris weren't worth it, they wouldn't keep buying them.
02:02:20.000 Have you ever driven one?
02:02:21.000 Yeah. 0.97
02:02:22.000 No, trust me, they're fucking worth it. 0.98
02:02:23.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:02:24.000 Like, yeah, it's a ridiculous amount of money.
02:02:26.000 It's not worth it, really, for a normal person.
02:02:28.000 But if you have, like, an insane amount of money and you could experience that, the thing Ferrari fucked up on big time is they took away the manual transmission.
02:02:38.000 They fucked that up. 0.95
02:02:39.000 They fucked that up. 0.91
02:02:39.000 Yeah. 0.91
02:02:40.000 Porsche is the only one who kept it. 0.54
02:02:42.000 They're the only one smart enough to realize, like, there's a part of the experience that you got to fucking wham, wham, that gated shifter where you're clacking them in there in a Ferrari. 0.71
02:02:53.000 Yeah. 0.94
02:02:54.000 Yeah.
02:02:54.000 Ah.
02:02:55.000 Bring it back. 1.00
02:02:56.000 Cut this shit. 1.00
02:02:57.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:02:57.000 Guys are silly. 1.00
02:02:59.000 Dude, did you see the fucking electric car they just released? 1.00
02:03:02.000 Which one? 1.00
02:03:03.000 The Ferrari? 1.00
02:03:04.000 That was dog shit. 1.00
02:03:05.000 Dude. 1.00
02:03:06.000 They fucked that up hardcore. 0.97
02:03:07.000 That looks like a joke. 0.97
02:03:09.000 It looks like something that someone made to get engagement online.
02:03:14.000 Like it's fake, but it's real.
02:03:16.000 I couldn't.
02:03:16.000 I know.
02:03:17.000 I was like, it looks as like those 1982 Mustangs.
02:03:21.000 Yes. 1.00
02:03:21.000 It looks like a fucking car. 1.00
02:03:23.000 So you pull a picture of the Ferrari electric car. 1.00
02:03:26.000 Oh, yeah.
02:03:28.000 Look at it, dude.
02:03:29.000 It looks so boring.
02:03:31.000 What the?
02:03:31.000 And so nothing.
02:03:33.000 Look at it. 1.00
02:03:34.000 Even inside, you're like, this looks like cheap dog shit. 1.00
02:03:36.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:03:38.000 I don't understand it.
02:03:39.000 I don't get it either.
02:03:40.000 I thought it was like a joke.
02:03:42.000 I know.
02:03:43.000 You know, like, you know.
02:03:44.000 Like, look at this.
02:03:45.000 It's got suicide doors, which is kind of dope.
02:03:47.000 But you know what?
02:03:47.000 That's kind of cool.
02:03:48.000 It's really dope on a 65 Continental, not on this fucking thing. 1.00
02:03:52.000 Look at it. 1.00
02:03:53.000 Ugly, ugly fucking monstrosity. 1.00
02:03:56.000 That's funny you mentioned that car. 1.00
02:03:58.000 That's another one of my favorites.
02:04:00.000 Oh, 65 Continentals?
02:04:02.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
02:04:02.000 Fucking. 1.00
02:04:03.000 I know a guy who's got one for sale that's a Resto mod, and I'm fucking really thinking. 1.00
02:04:07.000 Oh, boy. 0.81
02:04:08.000 It's a 65 black convertible with the suicide doors, and it's just mint.
02:04:14.000 It's mint. 0.94
02:04:15.000 And it's got a new engine in it, like a modern engine, and it's got fucking perfect suspension in it. 0.78
02:04:20.000 It looks so radical.
02:04:22.000 There's something about that car, especially in a convertible, the 65.
02:04:26.000 The convertible is my jam right there.
02:04:29.000 Good luck parking anywhere.
02:04:30.000 Yeah.
02:04:31.000 You might as well be parking a yacht. 1.00
02:04:32.000 It's a fucking boat, dude. 1.00
02:04:33.000 It's so big. 1.00
02:04:35.000 It's so big. 0.53
02:04:37.000 It's so big, but it's so sick.
02:04:39.000 It's just, I can't understand how Ferrari can make it.
02:04:41.000 Now, I want you to pull up a Ferrari 458 Italia.
02:04:46.000 So I think the 458 is their masterpiece.
02:04:49.000 I think it's the best looking Ferrari that they ever made.
02:04:51.000 Yep.
02:04:51.000 There's a lot of them that look great, there's a lot of them that are amazing.
02:04:55.000 But for me, there's something about when they came up with the 458, it just, they nailed it.
02:05:01.000 You look at that. 0.99
02:05:02.000 Oh my God, look at that fucking thing. 1.00
02:05:04.000 That is a work of art. 1.00
02:05:04.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:05:06.000 Yep.
02:05:07.000 It's so beautiful.
02:05:08.000 And it's a lot of people think it's the greatest Ferrari ever. 1.00
02:05:11.000 When you draw it, it also doesn't have a manual transmission, which sucks a fat dick. 0.99
02:05:15.000 But other than that, go back to that last picture that you had of that one. 0.99
02:05:19.000 Look at that one.
02:05:20.000 Make that bigger.
02:05:20.000 Look at that color.
02:05:22.000 Oh, it's a shitty picture. 1.00
02:05:24.000 But God, it's fucking beautiful. 0.99
02:05:26.000 Amazing color. 0.98
02:05:27.000 Now, think of the company that made that.
02:05:27.000 Those are beautiful.
02:05:29.000 Also, go to that black one right there where your cursor just was.
02:05:32.000 Click on that one.
02:05:33.000 Oh, baby. 1.00
02:05:35.000 Look how sick that is. 1.00
02:05:37.000 And how do you go from that to that electric piece of shit you guys just released? 1.00
02:05:37.000 Yep. 1.00
02:05:42.000 Fuck you. 1.00
02:05:42.000 I don't know. 1.00
02:05:44.000 Fuck you for doing that. 1.00
02:05:45.000 How dare you? 1.00
02:05:48.000 I bought an F8, the Tributo, which is very similar to that. 1.00
02:05:55.000 And that fucking car is badass. 0.99
02:05:58.000 No, they make incredible cars. 1.00
02:06:00.000 They make incredible.
02:06:01.000 And somehow or another, less douchey than a Lamborghini.
02:06:05.000 I don't know how they did it.
02:06:07.000 You know what I mean?
02:06:07.000 Yeah.
02:06:08.000 It's like something about a Ferrari that you have one, it's sophisticated.
02:06:12.000 You know? 0.58
02:06:13.000 Whereas if you have a Lamborghini, like, look at this douchebag. 0.97
02:06:13.000 Yeah. 0.97
02:06:16.000 Yeah.
02:06:17.000 Meanwhile, Lamborghinis are awesome.
02:06:19.000 Yeah.
02:06:19.000 They're awesome.
02:06:19.000 Awesome.
02:06:20.000 But why is that?
02:06:21.000 Why are they like attached to?
02:06:23.000 I guess because it's kind of like, I don't know.
02:06:27.000 I don't know, maybe rappers or something started starting to lease them.
02:06:32.000 I don't know.
02:06:32.000 They started leasing them.
02:06:34.000 It doesn't make any sense.
02:06:35.000 It's like there's something about them that's more ostentatious, it's more obnoxious.
02:06:40.000 The doors, maybe just too showy.
02:06:44.000 I know.
02:06:44.000 I have a buddy of mine who loves Ferrari.
02:06:45.000 He's a rich guy and he loves Ferrari.
02:06:47.000 He's like, I can't drive a Lamborghini.
02:06:48.000 I'm like, why not? 0.86
02:06:49.000 He's like, it's just, I don't want, I feel like a douchebag.
02:06:53.000 I'm like, okay.
02:06:55.000 I know what you're saying.
02:06:56.000 There's a real thing there, but I don't know why.
02:06:58.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:06:58.000 Because Lamborghinis are fucking amazing. 0.99
02:07:01.000 Yeah, they fucking too have an amazing sound. 0.99
02:07:04.000 Oh, different from Ferrari. 0.99
02:07:05.000 It's a little higher, whinier. 0.97
02:07:07.000 But sick. 0.55
02:07:07.000 But they bark. 0.55
02:07:08.000 I mean, yeah.
02:07:09.000 Like, what is the latest Lamborghini?
02:07:12.000 They have some crazy new one that they just released last year.
02:07:16.000 It's insane. 0.99
02:07:17.000 It's as wide as a fucking trailer, it's huge. 1.00
02:07:20.000 Um, I don't know the name of it. 0.99
02:07:24.000 I've never had a Lamborghini.
02:07:26.000 Yeah, me either.
02:07:27.000 I drove one once on a track.
02:07:28.000 It was a little loose.
02:07:31.000 Which one's that?
02:07:34.000 Temerario.
02:07:37.000 Temerario.
02:07:38.000 That looks amazing.
02:07:40.000 Whoa, dude.
02:07:41.000 Yeah.
02:07:42.000 That's pretty.
02:07:43.000 Ew.
02:07:44.000 That one.
02:07:45.000 There we go.
02:07:45.000 Huracan.
02:07:46.000 Oh, the Huracan. 0.98
02:07:46.000 That's another sick one. 0.98
02:07:47.000 Yeah.
02:07:48.000 That's a little smaller and lighter, I think.
02:07:51.000 Yeah, dude.
02:07:53.000 It's also amazing.
02:07:54.000 You give an 18 year old kid.
02:07:55.000 That kind of power in a car, and you're still alive.
02:08:02.000 I know, I know.
02:08:04.000 Oh, dude, yeah, those kind of cars will definitely check you, uh, keep you in check too, because it's not until you know over a hundred miles an hour, it's getting closer to 200 miles an hour to where you're in that car and you're like, it hits you.
02:08:26.000 You go, if I make one. 0.98
02:08:29.000 Fucking tiny little error here. 0.99
02:08:33.000 It's over. 0.99
02:08:34.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:08:35.000 The motor's in the fucking back. 0.99
02:08:37.000 And if this thing runs into off the road or whatever, it's just going to accordion right into me. 0.99
02:08:37.000 Yep. 0.99
02:08:45.000 And you're done.
02:08:48.000 It's kind of amazing.
02:08:49.000 You just buy one.
02:08:50.000 You know, I thought about that now.
02:08:52.000 Like they have the new Corvette ZR1, it has a thousand horsepower from the factory.
02:08:57.000 So you could just go into a Corvette dealership.
02:09:00.000 If you got the cash, slap down some money and you have a thousand horsepower car that goes zero to 60 in two seconds.
02:09:06.000 And you just go out there and be like, bye.
02:09:09.000 Good luck.
02:09:13.000 Be safe.
02:09:14.000 Yeah.
02:09:14.000 Like, what are you doing?
02:09:15.000 How are you allowed to have that?
02:09:16.000 Like, that you should have to have a pilot's license to drive one of those things.
02:09:19.000 Totally.
02:09:20.000 Or just, you know, racetrack only, whatever.
02:09:23.000 But imagine you're an 18 year old rock star.
02:09:23.000 Right.
02:09:26.000 Here you go.
02:09:27.000 Dude, you've got one.
02:09:29.000 And back then, the Corvettes like yours.
02:09:32.000 Especially when you put a blower on it. 1.00
02:09:33.000 Those fucking things had no traction control. 1.00
02:09:35.000 They had no anti lock brakes. 1.00
02:09:37.000 There's no nannies.
02:09:39.000 There was nothing to protect you. 0.94
02:09:40.000 No.
02:09:41.000 It was just madness.
02:09:42.000 Just pure madness.
02:09:45.000 Did you ever take it to a track or anything?
02:09:47.000 No, never did.
02:09:48.000 Have you ever driven around a track?
02:09:49.000 You've done that?
02:09:50.000 Yes.
02:09:50.000 That's fun.
02:09:51.000 Yeah, that is fun.
02:09:52.000 Yeah.
02:09:53.000 I went to, I spent some time at the Skip Barber School.
02:09:53.000 That is fun.
02:09:57.000 Oh, really?
02:09:58.000 Yeah.
02:09:58.000 Yeah.
02:10:01.000 Of course, the Libra in me has to fucking learn about everything, about the apex and study. 0.95
02:10:07.000 Like, there's a lot of physical and, you know, technical things about driving. 0.97
02:10:07.000 Right. 0.97
02:10:13.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99
02:10:14.000 If you don't understand about going into a turn at fucking 100 miles an hour, you're going to. 1.00
02:10:20.000 Fucking die. 1.00
02:10:21.000 You know, so I was like, we're definitely going to spin out. 1.00
02:10:24.000 Yeah, learning how to do it was really interesting to me.
02:10:28.000 It was really interesting to realize, like, the lines that you take.
02:10:31.000 Like, you don't just go in the middle of the track all the way.
02:10:34.000 No, you're hugging the outside edge, then the inside edge, and cutting the lines to make a quicker time, and knowing when to brake, and knowing when you accelerate.
02:10:42.000 And it's so interesting.
02:10:44.000 It's a lot, man.
02:10:45.000 Very technical.
02:10:46.000 A lot more technical than anybody would ever think.
02:10:46.000 Yeah.
02:10:48.000 You think you're just kind of steering the car, like, no, no, no, no, there's a lot of decisions to be made.
02:10:52.000 There's a lot going on.
02:10:54.000 Especially on a really windy turn.
02:10:57.000 That's what Coda looks like.
02:10:58.000 That's the track, Circuit of the Americas.
02:11:00.000 And that one is like, there's so much turns.
02:11:02.000 It is a long straightaway. 0.97
02:11:04.000 You could really fucking get after it. 0.97
02:11:07.000 Right? 0.96
02:11:08.000 And it's not even about the acceleration.
02:11:08.000 Yeah.
02:11:10.000 A lot of times it's about the braking.
02:11:12.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:11:12.000 I mean, fuck. 1.00
02:11:13.000 Braking and turning. 1.00
02:11:14.000 But it's like, that's one of the things that I say is really worth it about having money is like experiencing a great car.
02:11:14.000 Dude.
02:11:21.000 Because it's like an amusement park ride.
02:11:23.000 Yes.
02:11:24.000 Even if you're not even going fast.
02:11:26.000 Just driving normal speeds around.
02:11:27.000 It's like if you're shifting your own gears and you hear that engine, it's like, ah!
02:11:31.000 Yeah.
02:11:32.000 It's like an amusement park ride.
02:11:34.000 You know, it's not just driving a car, you're absolutely.
02:11:38.000 You're experiencing something that, you know, the other people aren't. 1.00
02:11:41.000 If you're driving that stupid Ferrari piece of shit electric car, you're not experiencing that. 1.00
02:11:46.000 You know? 1.00
02:11:46.000 No. 1.00
02:11:47.000 No, no.
02:11:48.000 You're just grooving on the emblem.
02:11:50.000 Yeah.
02:11:51.000 Yeah.
02:11:51.000 They got you.
02:11:52.000 That could have been a Hyundai easily.
02:11:54.000 Dude, I couldn't believe it.
02:11:55.000 I was like, they did not do this.
02:11:57.000 Well, I hope they rebound.
02:11:59.000 I hope they.
02:11:59.000 Yeah.
02:12:00.000 Like, smack somebody who made that and go, Hey, bro, they will. 0.98
02:12:03.000 I think one of the designers was one of the guys who was involved in designing the iPhone and it fucking looks like it. 0.92
02:12:12.000 No, that's what's got that's why it's got all the yes, no, that and so that guy's awesome.
02:12:19.000 How did he do that?
02:12:20.000 That started to make sense.
02:12:21.000 I was like, Okay, I would ask him before I even talked to him about it.
02:12:24.000 I'm like, What kind of cars do you have?
02:12:26.000 Do you have a car?
02:12:28.000 What do you drive? 1.00
02:12:29.000 And if he's like, I drive an escort, like, fuck. 1.00
02:12:31.000 You okay? 1.00
02:12:32.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.88
02:12:33.000 Yeah, I have a Prius. 1.00
02:12:35.000 Go eat shit, eat all the shit that's ever been shit. 1.00
02:12:39.000 You out of the design room, you can't design a Ferrari just because you made an iPhone. 1.00
02:12:45.000 You're gonna make it look sleek and plain. 1.00
02:12:47.000 Yeah, no, it's gotta look like art, you motherfucker. 1.00
02:12:51.000 Someone's paying a quarter million dollars for this thing, and now a lot more. 0.99
02:12:55.000 I think the electric cars, I want to say three, three hundred and thirty.
02:13:00.000 I bet they're gonna sell two.
02:13:02.000 Right.
02:13:03.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:13:03.000 Two retards. 1.00
02:13:04.000 Two fucking super rich retards are going to buy that fucking thing. 1.00
02:13:06.000 Ain't nobody going to spend $400,000 on this electric thing. 1.00
02:13:12.000 Meanwhile, the other cars they make are fucking. 0.99
02:13:14.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00
02:13:15.000 What the fuck? 1.00
02:13:16.000 You guys know. 1.00
02:13:18.000 What is the latest one?
02:13:21.000 What is their main one now?
02:13:25.000 The sleek wicked one.
02:13:26.000 It's the advanced version of the 458.
02:13:29.000 Like the one they have now.
02:13:30.000 Like, what is it called?
02:13:31.000 SF. 0.98
02:13:32.000 What the fuck is it called? 0.99
02:13:35.000 SF90? 0.99
02:13:35.000 SF90, yeah. 0.99
02:13:36.000 SF90.
02:13:36.000 That's what it is.
02:13:37.000 That thing's insane. 0.73
02:13:38.000 That's gorgeous.
02:13:39.000 Yeah, dude.
02:13:40.000 That's a gorgeous car.
02:13:41.000 My favorite.
02:13:42.000 How do they go from an SF90?
02:13:43.000 They're selling that at the same time as they're selling the Sunk of Junk.
02:13:46.000 The SF90 is one of the best looking cars ever.
02:13:49.000 Yeah.
02:13:50.000 It's incredible.
02:13:52.000 We'll pull up a picture of one of those, Jamie.
02:13:53.000 I'm on their website.
02:13:55.000 Dude, have you seen the body?
02:13:58.000 I love the LaFerrari.
02:14:00.000 The body style in the LaFerrari.
02:14:02.000 Yeah, that's it.
02:14:03.000 That's the one.
02:14:04.000 Oh, dude. 1.00
02:14:05.000 That's got some LaFerrari in the ass end. 0.52
02:14:07.000 Oh, so this is like all the cars they've ever made, Jamie. 0.87
02:14:09.000 I'm on their website.
02:14:10.000 Yeah.
02:14:11.000 No, I understand.
02:14:11.000 Oh.
02:14:12.000 This is all the cars that they make and all the cars that are.
02:14:15.000 That's gorgeous, man.
02:14:16.000 That is gorgeous.
02:14:17.000 SF90.
02:14:18.000 Hit the La Ferrari.
02:14:20.000 Yeah.
02:14:22.000 Dude.
02:14:24.000 Look at that thing.
02:14:25.000 What is the F80?
02:14:25.000 Woo!
02:14:27.000 Click on the F80.
02:14:28.000 Oh my God.
02:14:30.000 Gorgeous.
02:14:31.000 Gorgeous. 0.90
02:14:34.000 When it says all models, they don't have the.
02:14:39.000 What is it?
02:14:40.000 What I was looking for, I was trying to find what.
02:14:42.000 I went to the website to find the newest car.
02:14:44.000 I know, but I think like some of them, it's not the newest car.
02:14:48.000 Like it might have been like last year, a year ago.
02:14:51.000 Well, they would be sharing it somewhere on here, I would imagine.
02:14:57.000 No, it's real, Jamie.
02:14:58.000 Just Google for.
02:15:00.000 I'm just saying, just Google, pull up an image of Ferrari, 2024 Ferrari SF90.
02:15:00.000 Okay.
02:15:08.000 And you'll see it.
02:15:11.000 There it is.
02:15:12.000 That's it.
02:15:13.000 Oh, the wing?
02:15:15.000 That's one that's like prime for racing.
02:15:17.000 But you go to images, please.
02:15:19.000 There you go.
02:15:20.000 That's it.
02:15:23.000 So, how does a company make that?
02:15:25.000 Look how gorgeous that is.
02:15:27.000 That's incredible.
02:15:28.000 That's so beautiful.
02:15:29.000 How does a company make that?
02:15:29.000 I know.
02:15:30.000 And then that Johnny Ivey piece of shit. 1.00
02:15:33.000 There's like three dudes. 1.00
02:15:33.000 Fucking thing. 1.00
02:15:36.000 One dude, I guess, designed the iPhone, and there's two other designers involved. 1.00
02:15:42.000 They probably work for Lamborghini.
02:15:43.000 They're probably spies.
02:15:46.000 They infiltrated and decided to ruin it from the inside.
02:15:49.000 Probably the same guy that made Billy Squire's music video.
02:15:52.000 Dude, that guy's got to be stopped. 1.00
02:15:56.000 Fuck that guy. 1.00
02:15:57.000 He's like, listen to what I did for Billy Squire. 1.00
02:15:59.000 I can do this to Ferrari.
02:16:01.000 I can thank them.
02:16:02.000 I took Ferrari down. 1.00
02:16:04.000 Yeah, with one whack ass fucking electric car. 1.00
02:16:09.000 Yes, I sold them a phone design. 1.00
02:16:12.000 Yeah.
02:16:14.000 But, you know, that's what happens.
02:16:16.000 Yeah.
02:16:16.000 You let people, you know, you don't have enough people that are smart, that are artistic around that are going to look at that and go, hey, hey, hey.
02:16:24.000 No.
02:16:25.000 Yeah, no.
02:16:26.000 Yeah.
02:16:26.000 What's with all the yes men?
02:16:28.000 There had to be somebody that went, What are we doing? 0.98
02:16:31.000 I don't know how the fuck that ever got greenlit by someone at Ferrari. 0.97
02:16:35.000 How do you not look at all the other cars that you've made and then look at that one and go, a perfecione. 0.96
02:16:41.000 No, nobody was doing that.
02:16:43.000 I don't get it.
02:16:44.000 No.
02:16:45.000 But, you know, companies make blunders. 0.99
02:16:48.000 You know, every now and then a band puts out a shitty record. 0.98
02:16:48.000 Yeah. 0.98
02:16:51.000 You know what?
02:16:52.000 It happens.
02:16:54.000 I mean, Ferrari's still Ferrari.
02:16:54.000 I get it.
02:16:56.000 They'll bounce back.
02:16:57.000 But, you know, guys.
02:16:58.000 They can always go, hey, We're not in the electric car business, okay? 0.99
02:17:02.000 We fucked up. 0.79
02:17:03.000 Well, that's what they probably should because most of the other car companies that do make electric cars, people really don't want them. 0.99
02:17:08.000 You know, like the Porsches, the Ticans, like those Audis, like the Audi ones that are just like a couple of years old, you can get them for like half price.
02:17:17.000 Nobody wants them.
02:17:18.000 Nobody wants electric cars, especially used electric cars.
02:17:18.000 I know.
02:17:22.000 Yeah, that's weird.
02:17:23.000 It is, but if you think about it, like electronics, we think of as disposable, right?
02:17:28.000 You don't want to buy someone's phone from 10 years ago.
02:17:31.000 No, no.
02:17:32.000 So, you don't want to buy a Tesla from 10 years ago either.
02:17:32.000 Right?
02:17:34.000 Right?
02:17:34.000 No.
02:17:35.000 BMO, they're great.
02:17:36.000 There's nothing wrong with them.
02:17:37.000 Yeah. 0.98
02:17:37.000 The 10 year old Tesla, it's a fucking awesome car. 0.98
02:17:39.000 But you don't want it. 0.99
02:17:39.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:17:40.000 Yeah.
02:17:41.000 People think of electronics as something you throw out and get new.
02:17:44.000 But engines, that's a different story.
02:17:44.000 Yes.
02:17:47.000 Yeah.
02:17:47.000 You know, like a 2005 Porsche is still very valuable.
02:17:51.000 People love those things.
02:17:52.000 Oh, yeah.
02:17:53.000 Those things have gone through the roof lately.
02:17:56.000 Like, but the Porsches, I just know so many guys that are just like buying them up, collecting them.
02:18:03.000 Well, I think also as things become more electric and more numb, people like they really love the sound of engines and the feel that you get from those cars, the actual experience of it.
02:18:15.000 You know?
02:18:15.000 Yeah.
02:18:16.000 Yeah.
02:18:16.000 It's like as things get more and more digital, I think with AI and music and everything, people are going to want to see live performances more.
02:18:25.000 You know?
02:18:26.000 No doubt.
02:18:27.000 Yeah.
02:18:28.000 I think they want that experience the experience of like raw, live, something that makes you feel alive.
02:18:35.000 Something.
02:18:36.000 All about the experience, man.
02:18:39.000 All about it.
02:18:40.000 Are you guys touring again?
02:18:42.000 Yeah, coming up mid July.
02:18:44.000 We're out. 0.97
02:18:46.000 How fucking pumped are you for that? 0.98
02:18:47.000 A couple months. 0.99
02:18:48.000 So pumped because.
02:18:50.000 I've actually, we've been home.
02:18:53.000 We just, we did this big stadium tour with Def Leppard, went all around the world. 0.98
02:19:01.000 That tour was, fuck, two and a half years long. 0.99
02:19:05.000 Wow. 1.00
02:19:06.000 Like, dude, that's insane. 0.99
02:19:08.000 So, and I started to realize, I'm like, fuck, I can't remember the last time I've been home, like, with a break. 0.98
02:19:19.000 Like, we intentionally were like, let's just. 0.99
02:19:22.000 Fucking take a year or more than a year off. 0.94
02:19:28.000 And it wasn't until 2016 was the last time we had taken a break. 0.98
02:19:39.000 So for me, it's just been fucking wonderful.
02:19:44.000 I actually enjoyed the whole last summer at home and now going into. 0.87
02:19:52.000 Summer, now we're getting ready to go back out, but just having that time at home was really cool.
02:19:57.000 So, I'm super the grass is always greener, dude. 0.98
02:20:00.000 Right, yeah, you know, when you're out there fucking ripping it, you're like, This is fucking red. 0.99
02:20:04.000 And then after a while, you're like, I'd shoot my own mom in the back to sleep in my fucking bed, you know, yeah, you know. 0.99
02:20:12.000 And then, but then when you're at home too long, you're like, Dude, I gotta get out of here, right? 1.00
02:20:18.000 You know, I gotta go fucking go do the shit. 0.99
02:20:21.000 Um, so it's, I don't know, that's a weird balance, you know, you're. 1.00
02:20:25.000 You're happy until it's too much and then, you know.
02:20:29.000 Well, it's just achieving the balance, but it's awesome that you still love it so much after all these years.
02:20:35.000 Oh, man.
02:20:36.000 It really is.
02:20:37.000 Dude, let me just tell you, there's nothing better than, imagine, right?
02:20:44.000 Let's trade places for a second. 0.96
02:20:46.000 You're back there, you're playing drums, and you've been doing this for a while, long enough to see this is the fucking best in the world. 0.95
02:20:56.000 You see, your fans all of a sudden, your fans have had children now. 0.99
02:21:01.000 Their children are on the shoulders of their fucking parents who were your fans now. 1.00
02:21:10.000 They're bringing their kids to the show, and their fucking kids are on their dad's shoulder going, Shout! 1.00
02:21:17.000 Shout! with the fucking devil horns up. 1.00
02:21:20.000 And you're like, You're sitting there going, Dude, that kid. 1.00
02:21:27.000 What is he, fucking 10? 1.00
02:21:30.000 And he's just fucking, you know, and just. 1.00
02:21:32.000 Yeah, he's air drumming. 0.99
02:21:34.000 Yeah, just to see that you've sort of, you know, you've, I don't know, just you've done a full circle to where now it's the whole other generation that's just now seeing this for the first time and they're fucking, and you're sitting back there playing going like, that's pretty fucking incredible. 0.98
02:21:54.000 It's pretty fucking incredible. 0.95
02:21:55.000 That doesn't get old, man. 0.87
02:21:56.000 To watch that happen is probably why the, become the reason why I love it so much. 0.99
02:22:04.000 That really like puts a fucking nail in it. 1.00
02:22:07.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
02:22:07.000 You know what I mean? 1.00
02:22:08.000 That's like, then that can only be achieved through time.
02:22:13.000 Yeah.
02:22:13.000 So that's nothing I've ever experienced until recently.
02:22:13.000 Right?
02:22:18.000 In the last few years, you look out and you see a whole bunch of kids, man, and they're all just checking it out for the first time, maybe.
02:22:27.000 For sure, some of them.
02:22:27.000 Wow.
02:22:29.000 Right? 1.00
02:22:29.000 And you're like, dude, fuck, this is wild. 1.00
02:22:34.000 Wild. 1.00
02:22:35.000 That's awesome, man.
02:22:36.000 Yeah, that's beautiful.
02:22:36.000 Brother, you've had an amazing life.
02:22:38.000 It's been an amazing ride, and I'm so happy that you're enjoying it so much.
02:22:42.000 Thanks, bud.
02:22:43.000 And thank you for being here, man.
02:22:43.000 Thank you, man.
02:22:44.000 It was really cool.
02:22:45.000 Dude, really enjoyed it.
02:22:46.000 Thank you for having me, man.
02:22:47.000 My pleasure.
02:22:48.000 It's my pleasure. 0.99
02:22:48.000 I've been wanting to come by and see you and come hang out and talk shit. 0.99
02:22:53.000 I'm glad we did it. 0.99
02:22:54.000 I'm glad we did it.
02:22:55.000 Thank you.
02:22:55.000 All right.
02:22:56.000 I love you too, brother.
02:22:56.000 Bye, everybody.
02:22:58.000 Bye.