The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2522 - Tony Hinchcliffe

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan experience.

00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

00:00:12.000 What's up?

00:00:13.000 What's happening?

00:00:13.000 What's going on?

00:00:14.000 Chaos.

00:00:15.000 Everything.

00:00:15.000 I love it.

00:00:16.000 Yeah.

00:00:17.000 The world's crazy.

00:00:18.000 Center of the storm.

00:00:20.000 I think the world's back at war today again, like officially, right? 0.98

00:00:25.000 I don't think that agreement with Iran lasted at all. 0.80

00:00:30.000 Which one?

00:00:31.000 I think there were bombings today in Lebanon.

00:00:35.000 And I think there's bombings today in American bases.

00:00:42.000 I try to not pay attention, dude.

00:00:43.000 I really do.

00:00:44.000 I try to distract myself with science stuff and space.

00:00:49.000 I was watching this documentary yesterday on how they make chips, like how they make semiconductor chips. 1.00

00:00:57.000 Dude, this fucking machine that they use. 0.99

00:01:00.000 I'm going to send you this, Jamie, because it's bananas. 1.00

00:01:02.000 It's like one of the most complex machines in the world.

00:01:06.000 And this machine they use to make semiconductors, make chips. 0.99

00:01:10.000 And they were explaining the process of making these chips, how fucking nuts it is, man. 0.71

00:01:17.000 The amount of atoms that are stacked on and the way they do it to make these super complex high end chips. 0.88

00:01:26.000 There's people out there, Tony, that are doing things way different than us.

00:01:31.000 Okay? 1.00

00:01:32.000 We're out there talking about sucking dicks and. 1.00

00:01:38.000 People shitting themselves. 1.00

00:01:39.000 And what's going on in other parts of the world is people are doing science fiction. 0.96

00:01:45.000 Like they're actually doing science fiction.

00:01:48.000 Here it is.

00:01:49.000 Give me a second.

00:01:51.000 I like to save things.

00:01:52.000 Here it is.

00:01:53.000 The world's most important machine.

00:01:56.000 It's an hour long?

00:01:58.000 Yes.

00:01:59.000 Did you find it?

00:02:01.000 Yeah, but just go to the.

00:02:03.000 There's some animation where they show how they make these things.

00:02:08.000 Like it was right where you were at.

00:02:11.000 Yeah, okay.

00:02:12.000 Oh, okay.

00:02:12.000 So they're just showing some of the different aspects of how these things are made.

00:02:18.000 Go back to where that guy had the laser beam.

00:02:20.000 That's perfect, actually, where that guy had the laser beam.

00:02:23.000 So this is him explaining this.

00:02:24.000 So look at this.

00:02:26.000 Back it up a little bit and give me some volume.

00:02:30.000 Back it up a little bit, please.

00:02:32.000 I want to introduce it to you with a thought experiment.

00:02:36.000 Imagine you are shrunk down to the size of an ant.

00:02:40.000 And you're given a laser that's strong enough to melt through metal like butter.

00:02:45.000 Next, a tiny droplet of molten tin, roughly the size of a white blood cell, is shot out in front of you around 250 kilometers per hour.

00:02:53.000 And your task is to hit this not once, not twice, but three times in a row in 20 microseconds with your little laser.

00:03:01.000 Well, that is exactly what this machine does.

00:03:04.000 It hits one tiny tin droplet three times in a row, heating each one up to over 220,000 Kelvin.

00:03:10.000 That's roughly 40 times hotter than the surface of the sun.

00:03:14.000 And it doesn't just hit one droplet.

00:03:16.000 It hits 50,000 droplets every single second.

00:03:20.000 How often do you miss a laser shot?

00:03:22.000 We don't miss them.

00:03:24.000 You do 150,000 laser shots a second and you don't miss one.

00:03:24.000 What?

00:03:29.000 Exactly.

00:03:31.000 The same machine also contains mirrors that might just be the smoothest objects in the universe.

00:03:36.000 If you scale one up to the size of the Earth, then the largest bump would be no thicker than a playing card.

00:03:42.000 What?

00:03:42.000 On top of that, it is able to overlay one layer of a chip.

00:03:45.000 Perfectly on top of another and never be off by more than five atoms.

00:03:49.000 And this is all happening while parts of the machine whip around at accelerations of over 20 G's.

00:03:56.000 For 30 years, almost everyone thought that actually building this machine was impossible.

00:04:01.000 And yet, it exists.

00:04:03.000 There is only one company in the world that can make it.

00:04:07.000 So, what is this company?

00:04:08.000 And what is this impossible machine they've built?

00:04:11.000 This video is.

00:04:13.000 That's it.

00:04:14.000 Wow.

00:04:15.000 What are they doing with that?

00:04:15.000 Yeah.

00:04:17.000 All computers, like computer chips that are getting better and better and better.

00:04:22.000 All these AI chips.

00:04:23.000 This is how they make them.

00:04:24.000 One interesting thing I can just add I know when they make those, they make like a big sheet of chips, you know?

00:04:29.000 Like, there'll be like 30 or 50 on them.

00:04:32.000 They'll test each one, and the ones that are the best, like, test out like one out of 100.

00:04:37.000 The ones that are like closest to 100 become like the i9 chip.

00:04:41.000 And if it's like 85 out of 100, it becomes like the i7 chip.

00:04:45.000 So they all come off the same sheet.

00:04:46.000 Interesting.

00:04:47.000 So it's like the best ones become the best chips.

00:04:48.000 They sell them for the most money.

00:04:50.000 And the next one's kind of just a little degraded.

00:04:52.000 No kidding.

00:04:53.000 Interesting.

00:04:54.000 So there was that issue with that Samsung chip factory, and it was about they weren't getting the results that they wanted. 0.91

00:05:02.000 So, it's probably they were getting more of the shitty chips and not enough of the perfect chips. 0.81

00:05:06.000 Yeah, they want really high end chips and the real chips. 0.99

00:05:08.000 You could smoke.

00:05:08.000 We have a fan in here, dude.

00:05:10.000 Sweet.

00:05:13.000 Yeah.

00:05:14.000 I mean, imagine if everybody died and it was just us in this room and there was like three late.

00:05:22.000 Well, it'd be more than that.

00:05:23.000 We'd have to have more people. 1.00

00:05:24.000 Otherwise, we're going to fuck up the gene pool. 0.95

00:05:26.000 We're all going to look like the English royals. 0.89

00:05:29.000 We probably need a few thousand people. 0.98

00:05:31.000 A few thousand people, like regular people, like you and I, that don't know shit about how these things work. 0.95

00:05:36.000 How much time would we need if we repopulated the earth with what we know? 0.99

00:05:41.000 Basically, you're starting out like a fucking, like a half ass prepper, you know, like someone who's on an episode of Lost, you know, like one of those plane crash people trying to figure out how to survive out there. 1.00

00:05:52.000 You're fucked. 1.00

00:05:53.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:05:54.000 You're not inventing that.

00:05:55.000 Uh uh.

00:05:55.000 How long is it going to take?

00:05:57.000 Infinity.

00:05:58.000 And how many people have to pave the way?

00:06:01.000 This is the thing.

00:06:01.000 For every one of these people that makes an invention like this, you're making this on the back of, Thousands and thousands and thousands of fucking super geniuses that have figured out each and every step of the way that can lead you to thinking, is this possible that we could do this next?

00:06:18.000 You know, they all build on each other. 0.98

00:06:20.000 So you need all these guys, and hopefully they don't get any pussy because otherwise they're going to get distracted. 0.99

00:06:28.000 You know, I bet if one of them gets a hot wife, like one of their patents kicks and they start making bank, and then all of a sudden he shows up for work in a Ferrari, and next, you know, he's got a hot wife. 1.00

00:06:38.000 Everybody's like, oh my God.

00:06:40.000 Yeah, civilization just went back 100, 200 years.

00:06:44.000 We're going to lose Tim.

00:06:46.000 Yeah.

00:06:48.000 Tim's taking Adderall, coding 18 hours a day, trying to figure out how to get us to Mars. 0.99

00:06:54.000 Actually, that's a bad point because Elon clearly gets pussy and doesn't seem to be affecting him at all. 0.98

00:06:59.000 I think Elon's different. 0.99

00:07:01.000 He's definitely different.

00:07:03.000 I mean, some people are different, different, different.

00:07:03.000 Yeah.

00:07:05.000 It's fascinating how many people want to find flaws in what he's doing.

00:07:09.000 Mm hmm.

00:07:10.000 Instead of just looking at this like, wow, this is an extraordinary time to be alive.

00:07:14.000 But it's because of this narrative that people have.

00:07:18.000 One of them, the big one, is this USAID is killing people narrative that people have died because of USAID.

00:07:23.000 Then a bunch of people have given examples of how them cutting the funding has led to the end of certain people's lives, like where they were in hospitals that didn't have any funding.

00:07:33.000 And there's a lot of that that you could point to say, right, if they had the money, they would have had the funding and they would have had that equipment in place, or maybe they wouldn't have.

00:07:42.000 But here's the other thing.

00:07:44.000 That's not.

00:07:45.000 Discounting the fact that a lot of that money is fraud.

00:07:49.000 A lot of it.

00:07:49.000 Yeah.

00:07:50.000 Like, it's not a little amount.

00:07:52.000 And the idea that you should let it go on because it's going to save lives, and there's a bunch of people that are stealing money.

00:07:59.000 Okay, I see that argument.

00:08:01.000 But why are we sending them money in the first place?

00:08:06.000 Did we do something to them?

00:08:08.000 Do we owe them money?

00:08:09.000 No?

00:08:09.000 Okay, we're just being nice.

00:08:10.000 Are you sure we're just being nice?

00:08:12.000 Is there anybody profiting off of us being nice?

00:08:14.000 Because usually, just being nice for no reason and just giving tax money away for no reason, I don't think they do that.

00:08:20.000 I don't think that's real.

00:08:22.000 I used to think that was real.

00:08:23.000 I used to think that charity was real.

00:08:25.000 And now I look at it and I go, oh, no, This is a giant scam that's wrapped up in virtue.

00:08:30.000 It's wrapped up in a nice, cozy blanket of being kind and compassionate and virtuous and doing good things for people all around the world.

00:08:38.000 I think a lot of people get involved in those things because that's what they think.

00:08:41.000 We're going to do good things around the world.

00:08:43.000 They're good people.

00:08:44.000 I really believe that.

00:08:46.000 And then they find out how it really works.

00:08:47.000 And then they get stuck in that system and then they're making their way up their, you know, air quotes, corporate ladder to the point where some of them are making a million dollars a year.

00:08:55.000 And you're like, what is this?

00:08:56.000 Yeah.

00:08:57.000 What is this?

00:08:57.000 This is a business.

00:08:58.000 This isn't really charity.

00:09:00.000 Most of the money is going to your employees and your overhead.

00:09:04.000 Why do you have such a big building?

00:09:06.000 You're like, what are you doing?

00:09:07.000 It's a big building.

00:09:08.000 How come you're not just funneling the money to these people?

00:09:10.000 Exactly.

00:09:11.000 Like the LA Fire Aid.

00:09:13.000 Great example.

00:09:14.000 Spencer Pratt told me, what number did he say of nonprofits got that money?

00:09:19.000 So over $100 million gets raised.

00:09:21.000 I don't know the exact total.

00:09:23.000 All of it goes to these different nonprofits.

00:09:26.000 I think he said 200 different nonprofits got the money.

00:09:31.000 So, and then what happens to that?

00:09:31.000 Yeah.

00:09:33.000 Well, they just pay their employees.

00:09:35.000 They pay overhead. 0.99

00:09:36.000 They pay their rent on fucking nice office on wherever they live. 1.00

00:09:41.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

00:09:42.000 It's so disheartening because you've. 1.00

00:09:44.000 So, that's what all that stuff is.

00:09:47.000 And it's also, if you listen to when Mike Benz has been on my podcast a few times and explains USAID, people think of it as aid.

00:09:55.000 You think of it as, oh, we're helping the world, which is great, right?

00:09:59.000 But it's not that.

00:10:00.000 It's the Agency for International Development, and it involves funding rapidly.

00:10:05.000 Bands overseas that are the subversive rap bands that are supposed to excite people to take over the government. 0.99

00:10:14.000 There's like a bunch of weird shit. 0.99

00:10:16.000 It funds rebels, it funds newspapers. 1.00

00:10:19.000 And what was he talking about?

00:10:22.000 There was a lot of it like funding rap music.

00:10:26.000 This is crazy.

00:10:27.000 People have long said that rap music, even though, listen, you love hip hop.

00:10:34.000 I know you just got back from Kanye West.

00:10:36.000 I'm a huge hip hop fan.

00:10:37.000 We got to talk about that at some point.

00:10:38.000 We definitely do.

00:10:39.000 I love hip hop.

00:10:41.000 But there's some people that believe that gangsta rap in particular, when it came about in the 1980s, was a part of the push to popularize it and produce it, was a part of the government, some faction of the government, some intelligence agencies wanting to create more crime, wanting to fill more private prisons, wanting to erode the fabric of society so they could push for more laws to keep you safer.

00:11:11.000 This is like one of the most tinfoily of tinfoil hat conspiracies.

00:11:16.000 But people are pointing out that right now is like one of the rare times where no rap music is on the charts.

00:11:22.000 And they're saying, well, how does this coincide with USAID?

00:11:26.000 Was USAID like actively promoting rap music?

00:11:30.000 Was that one of the reasons why rap music was so popular?

00:11:34.000 Is that real?

00:11:35.000 That can't be real.

00:11:37.000 Maybe back in the day.

00:11:38.000 It seems like that would be more manipulative.

00:11:41.000 I don't see how.

00:11:42.000 I believed that until I heard mumble rap.

00:11:44.000 I'm like, this makes, this is not real. 1.00

00:11:47.000 This is trying to make people stupid. 1.00

00:11:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:11:49.000 There's something about this, you know?

00:11:51.000 And obviously, some artists are better at it than others.

00:11:54.000 Some of them are fun the way they do it.

00:11:56.000 But I'm saying there's a giant chunk of them that are inaudible.

00:12:01.000 You don't know what they're like.

00:12:02.000 Who's into this?

00:12:03.000 Oh, almost all of them are inaudible.

00:12:06.000 Like, what's going on there?

00:12:07.000 Imagine if that was it.

00:12:09.000 It was like people heard Nas and, like, this guy's too smart.

00:12:13.000 We got to dumb it down a little.

00:12:14.000 Right.

00:12:15.000 We got to promote some people that could barely talk.

00:12:17.000 We got to promote some people that are on cough syrup, apparently.

00:12:17.000 Yeah.

00:12:20.000 Yeah.

00:12:21.000 Have you ever done that cough syrup?

00:12:23.000 They seem to love it.

00:12:23.000 No.

00:12:24.000 Yeah.

00:12:25.000 A lot of dudes who are into that cough syrup, man, they swear by it.

00:12:30.000 It's crazy.

00:12:31.000 It's got to be fun.

00:12:32.000 It's got to be enjoyable.

00:12:33.000 Is it codeine?

00:12:34.000 Is that what they're doing?

00:12:35.000 I think so.

00:12:36.000 Have you done it, Jamie?

00:12:39.000 Bro, we talked about this before, but I remember back in the 90s, I got a hold of some NyQuil, the real NyQuil.

00:12:48.000 Like, I guess they changed the formula for NyQuil, and I had, you know, whatever, the flu or something, and I took some NyQuil and I was laying in bed and I was like, This is wonderful.

00:12:58.000 It was wonderful.

00:12:58.000 Yeah.

00:13:00.000 Like, just the warmth, the softness of the pillows, and the warmth of the bed with the covers over me.

00:13:05.000 Like, oh, this is wonderful.

00:13:08.000 And I remember thinking, ooh, this is dangerous.

00:13:11.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:13:12.000 Like, this is a dangerous feeling because if your life was shit and you found that, like, that's better than anything else that's happening in your life. 0.99

00:13:21.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:13:22.000 And you can get it at CVS.

00:13:24.000 Crazy.

00:13:25.000 What was in the old NyQuil before they switched it?

00:13:29.000 I avoid that stuff like the plague.

00:13:31.000 I'm afraid of medicine.

00:13:33.000 So, this stuff probably was like sitting in my house if I took it.

00:13:36.000 So, it might have even been older than 97 or 98, whenever this was that I was sick.

00:13:42.000 But I'll never forget it.

00:13:43.000 Because I never get like getting scared.

00:13:46.000 Like, I could love this.

00:13:48.000 Like, I could just drink this during the day and just like sit on my back porch if I have the day off.

00:13:53.000 Yeah.

00:13:54.000 Just get obliterated with NyQuil and just enjoy the universe.

00:13:57.000 I told you about that time I took a half of the pain pill that the dentist gave me for my wisdom tooth. 1.00

00:14:02.000 I was like, oh, fuck. 1.00

00:14:03.000 This is life changing. 0.99

00:14:04.000 It says the earliest NyQuil formula includes ephedrine, which is a decongestant, doxyamine succinate, which is an antihistamine, acetaminophen, dextromethorphan, cough suppressant, and about 25% alcohol.

00:14:25.000 Oh, I was getting drunk too.

00:14:28.000 Wow.

00:14:30.000 What changed in the mid 2000s after the combat methamphetamine?

00:14:34.000 There it is.

00:14:35.000 They removed pseudo ephedrine.

00:14:38.000 So, was that the stuff?

00:14:39.000 So, it wasn't codeine.

00:14:40.000 But is there?

00:14:41.000 I think there is NyQuil with codeine, though, right?

00:14:45.000 What I had was pretty good.

00:14:47.000 I don't think it was as simple.

00:14:50.000 Yeah, you had the stuff they could make meth out of or whatever.

00:14:53.000 Yeah.

00:14:54.000 Okay, we'll put it in Perplexity.

00:14:57.000 And Perplexity says In the mid 2000s, NyQuil brands sold in the U.S. do not contain codeine, and there's never been a standard VIX NyQuil with codeine in its active ingredient lineup.

00:15:10.000 Typical NyQuil form.

00:15:12.000 So, codeine.

00:15:13.000 So, does any cough syrup have codeine in it?

00:15:15.000 That's what lean is.

00:15:18.000 They add it?

00:15:19.000 Or is it just prescription cough syrup?

00:15:21.000 That was the whole thing about it.

00:15:23.000 Maybe I am fucking up my memory, and maybe it wasn't NyQuil.

00:15:27.000 Because whatever it was, it seems like a. 0.97

00:15:28.000 You just get fucked up off NyQuil, but you have to drink the whole bottle, you get NyQuil. 1.00

00:15:32.000 Just get fucked up. 1.00

00:15:33.000 I definitely didn't drink the whole bottle. 1.00

00:15:35.000 I know I took a dose, like a strong dose. 0.93

00:15:38.000 That means you're just getting fucked up off 25% alcohol and a little bit of a. 0.95

00:15:42.000 Maybe. 0.97

00:15:43.000 A little bit of a side mess.

00:15:44.000 See, the thing is, it's so long ago, I can't remember.

00:15:46.000 I say NyQuil because it's like saying Q tips or Kleenex just because it's tissues or ear swabs. 0.98

00:15:53.000 I don't know if it was NyQuil, but it was cough syrup, whatever the fuck it was. 0.98

00:15:57.000 And I felt wonderful. 0.98

00:15:58.000 And I remember thinking, like, this could be a real problem.

00:16:01.000 Like that one day in bed, because I'm always scared of stuff like that.

00:16:04.000 I'm always scared to get, I knew too many people when I was growing up that got hooked on stuff and it just derailed their life.

00:16:10.000 So lying in bed, I was like, oh, you can't do this again.

00:16:12.000 No more of this.

00:16:14.000 Right.

00:16:14.000 I like it.

00:16:15.000 Yeah.

00:16:16.000 Yeah.

00:16:17.000 I got a knee surgery once they gave me morphine.

00:16:20.000 They made morphine in a drip.

00:16:22.000 And they say that you can only hit that button so many times it stops giving to you.

00:16:26.000 But every time you feel pain, you can just hit the button.

00:16:28.000 Because I was on like a perpetual motion machine.

00:16:31.000 So my legs going.

00:16:33.000 And I'm just like bang, bang, bang, bang.

00:16:35.000 Wee.

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00:17:29.000 The closest I come to that, because I've never had like a serious surgery or anything, but I go to this, they have a dental office here in Austin called the Austin Dental Spa.

00:17:39.000 So their whole thing is like a luxurious dental experience.

00:17:45.000 And they will hook you up to Laughing Gas and they let you, like, if they're like, you want a little more.

00:17:50.000 And I'm like, okay, yeah. 0.97

00:17:52.000 And that's like the closest I get to it is once every six months or so I go there and dude, I'm always excited about this fucking experience. 0.97

00:18:01.000 It is so awesome. 0.93

00:18:03.000 Do you ever come up with bits after doing laughing gas?

00:18:05.000 No, but during the thing, it makes me weirdly honest.

00:18:09.000 You ever seen in Kill Bill when he shoots her in the knee with the honest gun because he was a chemist for like a living?

00:18:15.000 It's like his secret job.

00:18:17.000 So he comes up with this truth serum and I've noticed that it makes me like weirdly very honest.

00:18:22.000 So one time when I was in the dental office, the guy's doing whatever.

00:18:26.000 And I'm like, and I'm jacked on laughing gas because it's not really, you're not really like cracking up.

00:18:32.000 You're just like in heaven and you're like, it's kind of smiling ear to ear.

00:18:37.000 And I remember going, like, how long did you go to school for dental school?

00:18:40.000 And he's like, whatever the answer is, like eight years.

00:18:42.000 And I'm like, did you ever think about going longer and becoming a real doctor? 0.87

00:18:46.000 And then I realized, like, kind of in the moment, even though I was fucked up, like that's, that sounds mean, but I think they're totally used to it. 0.99

00:18:54.000 I think they know that laughing gas makes people fuck up. 0.98

00:18:56.000 I bet they're not used to that, dude. 0.99

00:18:58.000 That's so mean.

00:18:59.000 It's not supposed to.

00:19:01.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:19:02.000 It's like a dangerous, like a real doctor, a dangerous truth serum.

00:19:06.000 Some people want to be dentists.

00:19:08.000 We need them too.

00:19:08.000 Yeah.

00:19:09.000 Yeah.

00:19:10.000 You know?

00:19:11.000 Crazy gig.

00:19:12.000 Yeah.

00:19:13.000 It's a weird one.

00:19:14.000 I know.

00:19:14.000 Imagine how bad breath they smell.

00:19:16.000 Oh, and just weird things lodged in teeth for God only knows how long.

00:19:21.000 When I got my root canal, one of the reasons why I had to get it is because I had a cap on my tooth or a filler, whatever it is.

00:19:30.000 What's it called?

00:19:32.000 Filler.

00:19:33.000 No, when they just fill your tooth up?

00:19:35.000 Why can't I remember?

00:19:36.000 Fillings.

00:19:37.000 Why did I say filler?

00:19:38.000 Whatever.

00:19:39.000 Yeah.

00:19:40.000 It was an old school one, you know, where it was like white plastic.

00:19:43.000 And when I was a kid, I used to have them. 0.99

00:19:44.000 They were like fucking lead. 0.99

00:19:46.000 They used to give you lead fillings, which is crazy. 1.00

00:19:48.000 Like kids had lead in their mouth.

00:19:52.000 And it was hurting.

00:19:53.000 It was bothering me.

00:19:53.000 So, what had happened was I had cracked the tooth and it had gotten infected underneath the filling.

00:20:01.000 So, he takes the filling out and drills into it.

00:20:04.000 And the smell that came out of my mouth it was pus. 0.99

00:20:11.000 All this pus came out and this fucking horrific smell. 0.98

00:20:15.000 I was like, oh my God, is that coming out of my mouth? 0.99

00:20:18.000 Yeah.

00:20:19.000 He's like, oh, that's normal.

00:20:20.000 It's decay.

00:20:21.000 Right.

00:20:22.000 There's an infection under here.

00:20:23.000 We're going to treat it.

00:20:24.000 You're going to be fine.

00:20:25.000 Yeah.

00:20:25.000 Piece of elk from seven years ago.

00:20:27.000 This is a long time ago.

00:20:29.000 This is a long time ago.

00:20:29.000 It was before I was hunting, I think.

00:20:31.000 But it was, you know, people die from that stuff, which is really crazy.

00:20:36.000 Like, if you don't take care of your teeth and you get that kind of infection, those kind of infections can become septic.

00:20:42.000 Well, it's nuts.

00:20:42.000 Yeah.

00:20:43.000 Sometimes I'll do a thing where I'll water floss after I brush my teeth just to see what would have been left in there if I just did what normal humans do. 0.95

00:20:53.000 Because I was a bunch of high pressure water flossers that I fucking love. 0.95

00:20:57.000 Complete game changer for life. 0.96

00:20:59.000 And it's insane what will jet out of there.

00:21:02.000 It gets stuck deep in between the teeth and everything.

00:21:04.000 And, you know, I think for the most part, I do it before I brush.

00:21:08.000 But every once in a while, I'll be like, I wonder if there's anything left in there.

00:21:12.000 You know.

00:21:12.000 Yeah, you have to floss.

00:21:14.000 You're going to get a bunch of shit stuck in there. 0.99

00:21:14.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:21:16.000 And even then, sometimes I'll regular floss and then brush my teeth.

00:21:20.000 And just out of curiosity, go, I wonder if there's anything left in there.

00:21:23.000 And I'll do a once over with the water flosser.

00:21:25.000 And you see like ding, ding, ding.

00:21:26.000 Three little things come out.

00:21:27.000 It's like that would have marinated in between my teeth or in the back of my gum line or whatever.

00:21:33.000 Yeah, that's not good.

00:21:35.000 But according to my dentist, he thinks it's all sugar.

00:21:38.000 He thinks if you go back and you look at like when people started developing serious cavities, it's, I mean, people have always had abscesses and broken teeth.

00:21:47.000 And there's always been like dental problems that haunted people.

00:21:51.000 Because back in the day, man, they just pull the tooth out and then who knows what kind of infection you still have in there and they don't treat it. 0.89

00:21:58.000 In the 1700s, if you broke your tooth and got an infection, you could be fucking dead. 1.00

00:22:02.000 You know, you could die from that shit. 0.99

00:22:03.000 But he was saying that the amount of cavities, like, steeply increased when people started putting sugar in everything. 1.00

00:22:11.000 And then kids started drinking sugary sodas and eating sugary candy, and that stuff gets stuck in your teeth.

00:22:16.000 He's like, I think that's the cause of it.

00:22:18.000 Yeah.

00:22:19.000 And probably high fructose corn syrup is probably just as bad, or if not worse, than actual sugar.

00:22:23.000 That stuff's not good for your body, that's for sure.

00:22:26.000 Your body doesn't like it.

00:22:27.000 Someone explained to me what's the difference in the absorption of high fructose corn syrup.

00:22:31.000 Versus natural cane sugar.

00:22:33.000 I completely forget how they explained it, but they were basically saying that there's some issues with how the body breaks it down.

00:22:40.000 Well, when you drink a soda, just think about that.

00:22:42.000 Where in nature do you get 20 grams of sugar just in liquid form and you just pump it down?

00:22:49.000 Glug, Ah, refreshing.

00:22:52.000 Crazy.

00:22:53.000 My buddy that I went to school with just flew in from Hawaii, which is where he's lived for like 20 years.

00:23:00.000 He's like a wilderness guy.

00:23:02.000 Climbs trees and cuts down his own pineapples and coconuts and stuff all the time.

00:23:07.000 He's got a great life.

00:23:09.000 And he checked a bag this trip just a few days ago and he brought it to the mothership because that's where we met up.

00:23:17.000 And he surprised me with this checked bag that was like that had the moldings built in and everything and had four coconuts and two white Hawaiian pineapples, I think they're called, which like run like $65 each or something in the US.

00:23:30.000 Like it's impossible to get.

00:23:33.000 And according to him, I don't know.

00:23:36.000 He's a real hippie dippy type.

00:23:37.000 Is that the dude that you brought to the mothership? 0.90

00:23:39.000 Yeah.

00:23:39.000 Anthony.

00:23:40.000 Yeah.

00:23:40.000 Your friend from high school.

00:23:41.000 Which is crazy.

00:23:41.000 Yep.

00:23:42.000 Yeah.

00:23:43.000 He's the man.

00:23:44.000 He's just a real dude.

00:23:45.000 It's crazy when you know people for that long.

00:23:46.000 Yeah.

00:23:47.000 Yeah.

00:23:48.000 And so this dude is just living in Hawaii, living his best life. 0.99

00:23:51.000 And I mean, holy shit. 1.00

00:23:53.000 These fucking pineapple. 1.00

00:23:54.000 He's like, dude, you're going to love this pineapple, pineapple, pineapple. 1.00

00:23:58.000 He just kept going on about it.

00:23:59.000 I'm like, all right, okay. 1.00

00:24:00.000 Sure enough, holy fucking shit, man. 1.00

00:24:02.000 It's nature can deliver you a sugar dose. 1.00

00:24:06.000 Because he was saying that white Hawaiian pineapples have higher sugar, but much lower acidity than what we're used to.

00:24:13.000 So it makes a whole different.

00:24:14.000 And since obviously it's natural sugar and this and that, it just makes a whole. 0.99

00:24:18.000 Different type of fucking fruit. 0.99

00:24:20.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:24:22.000 Wild how we have to go other places to get unbelievable shit. 0.99

00:24:22.000 Sounds good. 0.99

00:24:26.000 Well, of course, Hawaii.

00:24:27.000 Yeah.

00:24:28.000 Hawaii really should be its own country.

00:24:30.000 Listen, I love Hawaii.

00:24:30.000 Yeah.

00:24:32.000 I'm glad they're protected by the United States. 0.99

00:24:34.000 People are cool as fuck. 0.99

00:24:36.000 It should be its own country. 0.99

00:24:37.000 It's five hours by plane.

00:24:39.000 I mean, come on, man.

00:24:40.000 White pineapples, primarily known as sugarloaf or white jade pineapples.

00:24:46.000 Highly prized, rare variety grown in Hawaii.

00:24:48.000 Unlike standard yellow, they feature creamy white flesh, particularly.

00:24:52.000 Practically no acidity and a completely edible core.

00:24:57.000 It was great. 1.00

00:24:58.000 And fucking, he climbs a goddamn tree like a little fucking monkey boy. 1.00

00:25:03.000 Normal little white dude. 1.00

00:25:05.000 How did he wind up in Hawaii? 0.65

00:25:08.000 He's a real free spirit.

00:25:10.000 He always was.

00:25:11.000 I think he just went out there, visited, and stayed.

00:25:13.000 He's the kind of guy that just gets a one way ticket places and figures it out as he goes.

00:25:18.000 He's in Youngstown right now.

00:25:19.000 That shows you how adventurous and crazy he is.

00:25:22.000 He's like, I'm going to spend a week and a half there.

00:25:24.000 I'm like, a week and a half in Youngstown.

00:25:27.000 Why is he doing that?

00:25:28.000 Visit family and friends.

00:25:30.000 Is there a good hotel to stay at in Youngstown?

00:25:30.000 Wow.

00:25:33.000 No.

00:25:34.000 And I even had to look this up recently because I'm like, I'm not staying at the crazy hotel that I stayed at last time I was there.

00:25:40.000 So I'm like, best hotel in Youngstown.

00:25:42.000 And the funniest thing is the actual closest option was in Pennsylvania, like 50 minutes away.

00:25:49.000 Truly.

00:25:50.000 I mean, there's one like double tree downtown, but it's in an area of absolute chaos.

00:25:57.000 I mean, just.

00:25:59.000 Death wish.

00:25:59.000 Do you ever go back there and go, I can't believe I grew up here?

00:26:02.000 Always, 100% of the time.

00:26:04.000 I got a feeling for it immediately when I went to LA and I didn't hear police sirens anymore, like as often, at least.

00:26:12.000 You know what I mean?

00:26:13.000 Isn't that funny?

00:26:13.000 Like LA with LA's crime.

00:26:16.000 That's what I always thought.

00:26:17.000 I'm like, oh, this is going to be crazy.

00:26:18.000 I've heard these Tupac songs.

00:26:20.000 Like, this is going to be nuts.

00:26:22.000 And it was.

00:26:23.000 That was USAID.

00:26:24.000 So peaceful.

00:26:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:26:27.000 So peaceful.

00:26:28.000 In Youngstown, at least when I was growing up there, you could hear a police.

00:26:31.000 Siren or an ambulance siren almost at any point of the day.

00:26:35.000 God.

00:26:37.000 My buddy sent me a shirt recently, too.

00:26:40.000 Another one, buddy, that has the stats on it of us being the murder capital.

00:26:45.000 I think it was 90, 91, and 96 per capita.

00:26:50.000 Not the biggest population, but per capita.

00:26:54.000 It was the most dangerous place you could be.

00:26:56.000 When I was in those most developmental years when a kid shouldn't be having his head next to the window.

00:27:02.000 Yeah, there it is.

00:27:03.000 I got that shirt.

00:27:05.000 Wow.

00:27:05.000 Four time defending champion, murder capital of America.

00:27:10.000 Wow.

00:27:11.000 Yep.

00:27:11.000 In 01, 02, that puts me as a sophomore and junior in high school.

00:27:16.000 95, 97, I'm 11, 12.

00:27:19.000 And you're being raised by your mom.

00:27:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:27:21.000 On the craziest fucking area of the whole goddamn thing. 1.00

00:27:26.000 The most dilapidated part of the north side of Youngstown. 1.00

00:27:30.000 Wow.

00:27:30.000 Yeah.

00:27:31.000 I can't believe it. 0.99

00:27:33.000 That's why, like, every part of my fucking. 0.99

00:27:37.000 I'm like, this is so goddamn weird. 0.99

00:27:40.000 So weird.

00:27:41.000 It is when you think about it, right?

00:27:42.000 When you really stop and think about it, it doesn't seem real.

00:27:44.000 60 years ago, this Ohio city was named Crime Town USA.

00:27:48.000 Yep.

00:27:49.000 Crime Town.

00:27:50.000 75 bombings.

00:27:51.000 Yep.

00:27:52.000 Oh, this was the mob days.

00:27:53.000 Yep.

00:27:54.000 So it used to be a mob run town, right?

00:27:57.000 Totally.

00:27:58.000 They were called Bomb Town?

00:27:59.000 Yeah.

00:28:00.000 A Youngstown tune up is a car bomb.

00:28:03.000 Look at this.

00:28:04.000 75 bombings, 11 killings in a decade, and no one seems to care.

00:28:10.000 Yeah.

00:28:11.000 They were so nuts in Youngstown that somebody tried to kill the actual prosecutor, the actual DA.

00:28:18.000 Isn't that normal? 0.88

00:28:19.000 Don't they always try to do that? 1.00

00:28:20.000 Well, it's kind of the stupidest, craziest thing you could do because then the entire FBI comes down on you. 0.99

00:28:27.000 It's a little short sighted to go, ah, we're going to kill the main cop of this city and not think that anything's going to happen from that. 1.00

00:28:35.000 Well, we beat the game. 0.77

00:28:36.000 We beat the main cop.

00:28:37.000 Imagine trying to be an intelligent businessman and also a mob leader.

00:28:43.000 Imagine like playing things out in advance, but also you're a mob leader.

00:28:47.000 There was a lot of that going on, and I got to see quite a bit of it.

00:28:52.000 Like there were, let's put it this way mall developers in Youngstown and things like that.

00:28:58.000 And I got to see firsthand, very young, that they were communicating with politicians at lunchtime and stuff because I was working at this little Italian restaurant at the time, right out of high school.

00:29:12.000 And they were having these quiet meetups in the corner of a quiet Italian restaurant.

00:29:18.000 And you would see these huge moguls, you know, I won't name any names, but Big business people in Youngstown meeting with the local this and that and congressmen.

00:29:28.000 I got to meet that congressman and that congressman because they're there meeting with these super duper rich people.

00:29:32.000 And I'm like, I wonder what the correlation is there, bro.

00:29:35.000 Back then, when there was no cell phones, and you know, they had to bug people, they had to literally bug businesses to get information.

00:29:45.000 Like, they were all doing something.

00:29:47.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:48.000 You couldn't be involved in any big time business if you weren't down with the Teamsters, if you weren't down with the longshoremen.

00:29:55.000 You had a, you had a, We gotta work this out, Bobby!

00:30:00.000 We're businessmen!

00:30:02.000 That's how you did the business.

00:30:04.000 Give a little money to their campaign, not a little, but a bit, and then you can get your stuff passed and make life easier down the road.

00:30:11.000 Dude, I had friends that had no show jobs.

00:30:14.000 Wow.

00:30:15.000 Yeah.

00:30:16.000 I had a friend of mine that had a no show job in New York at the Javits Center.

00:30:21.000 You know, the Javits Center is like a big convention center.

00:30:24.000 He had a union no show job.

00:30:26.000 Wow.

00:30:26.000 So he's a mob guy.

00:30:27.000 Yeah.

00:30:28.000 And they just gave him money.

00:30:30.000 I almost get a free check on the Sopranos. 0.95

00:30:32.000 They had those no show construction jobs.

00:30:35.000 They're sitting there with their portable fans.

00:30:37.000 Yeah, no, that's real, dude.

00:30:39.000 That is a real thing.

00:30:40.000 Yeah.

00:30:41.000 They get a certain amount of jobs.

00:30:43.000 They would make agreements.

00:30:45.000 The union would make an agreement.

00:30:47.000 We get a certain amount of these jobs.

00:30:50.000 It's crazy.

00:30:51.000 There's really 100 jobs, but we want 130.

00:30:57.000 Youngstown was a haven for organized crime related corruption.

00:31:02.000 Was ingrained into the fabric of its society.

00:31:04.000 A 2000 publication, New Republic, listed a chief of police, the outgoing prosecutor, the sheriff, the county engineer, members of the local police force, a city law director, several defense attorneys, politicians, judges, and a former assistant U.S. attorney as controlled by the mob.

00:31:21.000 So if they have that, if they found that for sure, imagine how many others there are.

00:31:28.000 Right.

00:31:29.000 That's everybody.

00:31:30.000 The prosecutor, the sheriff, the county engineer, the police force, city law director.

00:31:35.000 Or defense attorney.

00:31:36.000 Imagine not being down with the mob.

00:31:39.000 Like, do you want to stay alive?

00:31:40.000 Like, do you want to work in this business?

00:31:42.000 And this is a city, I think we looked it up the other day, actually.

00:31:42.000 Right.

00:31:45.000 I think it only has 25,000 white people. 0.70

00:31:48.000 So, knowing that black people tend to not be in the Italian mob, just going off of 25,000, and that's current. 0.92

00:31:58.000 I don't know what it was back in the day, but the point is it's not a big city. 0.94

00:32:03.000 It's not.

00:32:04.000 I think 50,000, 60,000, half or less white.

00:32:09.000 So, there's Tony.

00:32:11.000 There's little Tony watching pro wrestling.

00:32:11.000 Yeah.

00:32:13.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:14.000 And even then, I was obsessed with Goodfellas and a Bronx tale and a Godfather because it's like, it's just what you're taught is humanity.

00:32:14.000 Pro wrestling.

00:32:23.000 Like, that's life.

00:32:24.000 Yeah.

00:32:26.000 So getting out of that and going to LA and thinking it was going to be all, it's going to be crazy gangs and stuff.

00:32:31.000 And it's just quiet. 0.98

00:32:33.000 Granted, I started in Burbank, which is a fucking television studio essentially. 0.92

00:32:37.000 But when I moved to New Jersey and I didn't have any money, when I first moved to New York, I couldn't afford to live in New York City. 0.95

00:32:44.000 Or, I didn't even have an apartment.

00:32:46.000 I stayed with my grandparents because my grandfather lived in New Jersey, in Newark.

00:32:51.000 And he bought a house there in, I think it was like the 1940s. 0.93

00:32:56.000 And they did a thing called blockbusting.

00:32:58.000 Do you know what blockbusting is? 0.54

00:32:59.000 They would go door to door and they would say, Black people are moving to the neighborhood. 1.00

00:33:02.000 You got to sell now. 0.94

00:33:03.000 And everybody sold. 1.00

00:33:04.000 It used to be an entirely Italian neighborhood.

00:33:07.000 And he was like, I like black people. 1.00

00:33:08.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00

00:33:09.000 And he kept his house. 0.99

00:33:10.000 But it was like one of very few families that stayed.

00:33:14.000 And then, Black people moved out, and then they started getting like different people, Spanish speaking people, like Dominicans, and a bunch of other. 0.62

00:33:22.000 And that's how it was when I stayed with them.

00:33:25.000 So, this is like 91?

00:33:30.000 Yeah, I was three years in the comedy, so it's probably 91.

00:33:33.000 And while I was living with them, the next door neighbor's house got broken into by the cops.

00:33:38.000 The DEA smashed down his door.

00:33:40.000 Dude had an Audi parked in the driveway.

00:33:42.000 He was selling crack, like right next door to my grandpa. 0.52

00:33:45.000 The whole neighborhood was just nuts, dude.

00:33:47.000 Like, he would get really nervous when I would leave.

00:33:49.000 Like, I would leave to go play pool somewhere, and he would be careful. 0.99

00:33:52.000 But it was fucking sketchy. 0.99

00:33:55.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:33:57.000 But it didn't used to be.

00:33:58.000 Like, when he first moved there, it was just an all Italian neighborhood. 0.99

00:34:03.000 Yep. 1.00

00:34:04.000 Real estate people, even back then, like, what a dirty thing to do.

00:34:07.000 Scare people into moving.

00:34:10.000 That's probably the first project of USAID.

00:34:12.000 That's probably it.

00:34:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:34:15.000 They probably got real estate people to destroy neighborhoods.

00:34:15.000 Yeah.

00:34:19.000 There's something to it.

00:34:20.000 I don't know the correlation of Italian neighborhoods. 0.99

00:34:23.000 Being taken over, not taken over, but whatever, by black people, like mob run cities like Youngstown, like Chicago, like Detroit. 0.99

00:34:35.000 It's an interesting anomaly. 1.00

00:34:37.000 I wonder if there's any correlation between the things.

00:34:40.000 Well, you know, most of the Italians that came in the early 20th century were very poor. 1.00

00:34:47.000 You know, they were all coming over here for labor or jobs and things along those lines.

00:34:51.000 And, you know, when they started doing better, They started moving out and moving into the suburbs and moving into more gentrified areas. 0.98

00:35:01.000 It's always what are the new immigrants that are going to come and take over this area that was formerly a low income Italian neighborhood or a low income Irish neighborhood. 0.99

00:35:11.000 It's the same thing. 1.00

00:35:13.000 There's cycles.

00:35:15.000 It's like there's cycles in fighting too. 0.74

00:35:18.000 In the early 20th century, there's a lot of Jewish fighters, like Slappy Maxie Rosenblum.

00:35:23.000 You never heard of him, right?

00:35:24.000 No. 1.00

00:35:25.000 Some very good Jewish fighters because they were poor. 1.00

00:35:29.000 And they're the new immigrants, you know? 1.00

00:35:31.000 And this is like before World War II. 0.98

00:35:34.000 And then, in, and even afterwards, there were some. 1.00

00:35:38.000 But then you get Italians. 0.98

00:35:40.000 You get a lot of Italians.

00:35:41.000 Got Rocky Marciano, Rocky Graziano.

00:35:43.000 There's a lot of like Jake LaMotta. 1.00

00:35:46.000 There's a lot of these like Italian bad motherfuckers because they were poor. 1.00

00:35:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:35:50.000 And then what happened? 1.00

00:35:51.000 Then you got a lot of Puerto Ricans, a lot of, you know, it's always like who's the new immigrants. 1.00

00:35:57.000 Right. 1.00

00:35:57.000 And who are the most hungry, come from the most poverty ridden areas. 1.00

00:36:02.000 Like Roberto Duran came from a terrible part of Panama. 0.52

00:36:05.000 Like, not terrible, but I mean, like very poor, very violent. 1.00

00:36:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:36:09.000 And he was one of the baddest motherfuckers. 1.00

00:36:10.000 Boom Boom Mancini was right down the street. 1.00

00:36:12.000 Yep.

00:36:14.000 I mean, Youngstown's known for boxing.

00:36:14.000 Yeah.

00:36:17.000 Yeah.

00:36:18.000 Kelly Pavlik.

00:36:19.000 Kelly Pavlik, who's been on the podcast.

00:36:21.000 He's awesome.

00:36:22.000 He was a beast, dude.

00:36:22.000 Yeah.

00:36:24.000 Oh, man.

00:36:25.000 That fight with him, Jermaine Taylor. 1.00

00:36:27.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:36:28.000 Sometimes I still re watch the end of that. 0.99

00:36:30.000 How did he survive?

00:36:31.000 Give me a burst of energy.

00:36:33.000 I mean, how did he make it through?

00:36:35.000 That was a crazy.

00:36:37.000 I mean, he got dropped.

00:36:38.000 He looked like the fight was over.

00:36:40.000 And then when he's got him in the corner and he rocks him.

00:36:42.000 Ooh.

00:36:43.000 And you go, no way.

00:36:45.000 He's coming back.

00:36:46.000 This is crazy.

00:36:48.000 Did you watch the fights this weekend?

00:36:49.000 Jerron Boots Ennis and I forget the dude he was fighting?

00:36:53.000 No, I was at that concert.

00:36:54.000 I missed it.

00:36:56.000 Boots is very good. 1.00

00:36:57.000 And for the most part, he beat his ass. 1.00

00:36:59.000 But the third round, he got rocked. 1.00

00:37:01.000 The third round was incredible.

00:37:03.000 Because the kid he was fighting, who's the gentleman that he was fighting, Jim?

00:37:06.000 Zayas. 0.99

00:37:07.000 Zayas, yeah.

00:37:08.000 Young kid.

00:37:09.000 He got dropped in the second round, like pretty bad.

00:37:12.000 Boots is very good.

00:37:14.000 He's like one of the best boxers alive.

00:37:16.000 And then the third round, the kid came back and rocked Boots, and it was just a war.

00:37:20.000 Just the third round was incredible.

00:37:22.000 Boots wound up stopping him.

00:37:23.000 I think he stopped him in like the seventh or the eighth round.

00:37:27.000 He just dropped him one last time, and the corner called it.

00:37:31.000 It was enough. 1.00

00:37:32.000 Like he was getting his ass kicked. 0.99

00:37:33.000 But he was very, very valiant. 0.99

00:37:35.000 You know, it was a really good fight.

00:37:37.000 Like Boots is better than him.

00:37:38.000 Like clearly, he's on another level.

00:37:40.000 But this kid showed just tremendous heart.

00:37:43.000 But it's like that third round was just coming back from getting dropped in the second. 0.87

00:37:47.000 Like, Those kind of moments where a guy's getting fucked up, like the Gaichi Taporia fight. 0.94

00:37:52.000 Yep. 0.99

00:37:53.000 Perfect example.

00:37:54.000 Right?

00:37:54.000 Yeah.

00:37:55.000 That's when it's really a fight.

00:37:57.000 A real fight.

00:37:58.000 Yeah.

00:37:58.000 Because Taporia was on him in that second round.

00:38:02.000 Ooh.

00:38:03.000 Man.

00:38:04.000 We were so close.

00:38:05.000 They were in there.

00:38:06.000 You could hear it.

00:38:07.000 Oh, you could feel it.

00:38:09.000 Where I was, man.

00:38:11.000 And, you know, obviously we're always close to the cage on those things.

00:38:16.000 But when Taporia was landing those body shots, it was right against him. 1.00

00:38:21.000 Our side of the fence, and I'm literally like, Oh my, I mean, holy fucking shit, man. 0.99

00:38:28.000 And I've seen a lot of people get ripped to the body before, but there's something about his close range strength in near that clinch, that close up fucking range of Ilya that is scary. 0.99

00:38:40.000 He's so good, dude. 0.94

00:38:42.000 He's so good and he's so precise.

00:38:45.000 He just tried to like, I always repeat this because Chaos on it said it was perfect.

00:38:50.000 If you try to win by knockout and fail, You won't win a decision.

00:38:55.000 Yeah.

00:38:55.000 And sometimes you just run out of gas because, like, you're not supposed to fight like that if you think that the fight's going to go five rounds.

00:39:01.000 Like, Ilya had him hurt and he's like, I can take him out.

00:39:05.000 But Justin's so durable, man.

00:39:07.000 He's so durable.

00:39:09.000 And that left hook to the body, the sound of it, man, is just whip.

00:39:14.000 It's so perfect.

00:39:15.000 He throws perfect punches.

00:39:17.000 His punches are just, I mean, even Justin said it in the post fight interview like, when he's fresh, his skills are unmatched.

00:39:25.000 Like, that's a crazy thing to say to a guy who just beat up and made stop.

00:39:28.000 He stopped him in the fourth round.

00:39:30.000 Yeah.

00:39:31.000 That's crazy to say.

00:39:32.000 Like, his skills are unmatched, but they really are.

00:39:35.000 Oh, at every point of that, I'm at every point of that.

00:39:38.000 Anybody I think that knows anything about those two fighters is going until this is stopped.

00:39:44.000 Anybody can win this.

00:39:46.000 Like, even when his face was blown up and his eyes looked black and closed, until that air horn rings, I'm like, anything, one punch. 0.53

00:39:58.000 And we've seen it even with Gaichi.

00:39:59.000 You saw it with Holloway, right?

00:40:02.000 Was it him?

00:40:02.000 Who did he square up with in the middle?

00:40:04.000 Yes.

00:40:05.000 Holloway, yeah.

00:40:05.000 Yes.

00:40:06.000 Max hit him with that final punch.

00:40:07.000 One chin, with one second left, it can.

00:40:11.000 All be over.

00:40:12.000 Yeah, that was a little different in that Holloway caught him with a jump spinning back kick to the face in the very last seconds of the first round and broke the bone of his nose.

00:40:24.000 We talked about it on the podcast.

00:40:26.000 And I was like, that changed that fight because before that, Gaetje was pressing him and it looked very competitive and it looked like maybe Gaetje had a slight advantage.

00:40:36.000 But that's because Max is very clever.

00:40:39.000 He's a very clever fighter.

00:40:40.000 He's always switching stances and moving.

00:40:42.000 You know, really hadn't showed that spinning back kick a lot.

00:40:45.000 That hadn't been a feature in a lot of his fights.

00:40:47.000 He did it a few times, but for him to land it that way, backing up, jump to the face, I mean, it was perfect.

00:40:54.000 Yeah.

00:40:54.000 It was perfect.

00:40:55.000 And his nose was fucked. 1.00

00:40:57.000 And if you're fighting with a broken, like a broken bone on your face, every time you're getting hit, you're getting just blasted. 1.00

00:41:03.000 Yeah. 0.92

00:41:04.000 You're the pain is insane.

00:41:06.000 And then, you know, he had, you know, he was a step behind Max.

00:41:10.000 Max was teeing off on him.

00:41:11.000 He landed some good shots, though, even though it was a good fight.

00:41:15.000 I mean, Max was definitely ahead in the fifth round, but it was a good fight.

00:41:20.000 And then, you know, during that wild exchange, he should have never done that.

00:41:24.000 Yeah.

00:41:24.000 He was already fading, whereas Max was still very fresh.

00:41:29.000 Fucking crazy fight, man. 0.99

00:41:31.000 That was a crazy fight. 1.00

00:41:31.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:41:32.000 I think Topiria's nose was broken in round two, I think.

00:41:37.000 It was pretty early on.

00:41:40.000 Yeah.

00:41:40.000 Hard to say.

00:41:41.000 You know, but Justin did clip him with a bunch of those uppercuts.

00:41:44.000 So Justin does this.

00:41:45.000 Thing where he likes collar ties you and then throws an uppercut in tight, and he's really good at it.

00:41:51.000 He's really good at like turning you a little and then throwing an uppercut in these exchanges.

00:41:55.000 He collar ties and uppercuts. 1.00

00:41:57.000 He caught him a few times, and you just get one of those on the fucking nose on the old schnoz. 1.00

00:42:02.000 This thing's so brittle. 0.99

00:42:04.000 Yeah, it's such a if you feel your nose, just feel it.

00:42:07.000 Have you ever seen Marab's nose?

00:42:10.000 The x ray of Marab's nose.

00:42:12.000 You've never seen it?

00:42:13.000 I sent it to you, right, Jamie?

00:42:14.000 Jamie, you'll find it.

00:42:16.000 It's crazy.

00:42:18.000 Look at it, it looks like.

00:42:19.000 Oh, my God.

00:42:20.000 Look at that. 1.00

00:42:21.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

00:42:22.000 Bro. 1.00

00:42:24.000 That thing is destroyed.

00:42:26.000 I mean, it's destroyed.

00:42:27.000 He's getting zero air out of that.

00:42:29.000 He's got the best cardio on planet Earth, and he's getting zero air out of his nose.

00:42:33.000 Wow.

00:42:34.000 But he won't get it fixed.

00:42:36.000 Because if he gets it fixed, he can't fight for like a year.

00:42:39.000 And he just wants to keep on trucking.

00:42:41.000 Yeah. 0.90

00:42:44.000 That dude's a freak. 0.53

00:42:45.000 If I was his friend, I would say, dude, you got a lot of money.

00:42:48.000 You're a world champion.

00:42:50.000 Fix the nose. 1.00

00:42:51.000 Let's take a year off, come back and fuck these motherfuckers up. 1.00

00:42:51.000 Let's fix it. 1.00

00:42:55.000 Because if that guy's got a fixed nose, he's got 10% more cardio. 0.54

00:42:58.000 Are you crazy?

00:43:00.000 That guy with 10% more cardio, that's an extra weapon. 0.94

00:43:04.000 I would get it fixed. 0.98

00:43:05.000 But the problem is, if he gets it fixed and then he fights a guy like Holloway and he gets jumping, spinning back kicked to the nose in the first round and shattered his again, then he's kind of fucked. 0.80

00:43:14.000 Because if they have to fix it again, then they might have to start taking pieces of your rib out and reconstructing your nose and. 0.97

00:43:21.000 Grafting bone and doing weird shit. 0.99

00:43:24.000 And then sometimes that shit doesn't take. 0.99

00:43:27.000 And sometimes it gets infected. 1.00

00:43:28.000 And then you have a bone infection on your face.

00:43:31.000 And what do they do then?

00:43:32.000 Do they have to remove your nose?

00:43:33.000 Is that what they have to do?

00:43:35.000 God. 1.00

00:43:35.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:43:36.000 Scary shit, man. 1.00

00:43:37.000 Very much so. 1.00

00:43:38.000 These fucking dudes, man. 1.00

00:43:39.000 That is a crazy job to risk your life, risk your health, risk your bones. 1.00

00:43:45.000 You're making a living by trying to damage another person who's trying to damage you.

00:43:51.000 Nuts. 0.99

00:43:53.000 But it's also why it's the most exciting shit in the world to watch. 0.99

00:43:55.000 Exactly. 0.99

00:43:56.000 So exciting.

00:43:57.000 Yeah.

00:43:57.000 Even boxing, as you know, tamed in comparison to MMA because there's less weapons and less options and more padding.

00:44:07.000 Yeah.

00:44:08.000 You don't get the chokeouts, the crazy chokeouts. 0.98

00:44:11.000 There was a crazy chokeout this weekend.

00:44:14.000 His name is Ruzaboyev, and he fought, God, how do I say his last name?

00:44:19.000 He fought this Russian cat and got him, Russian or Ukrainian?

00:44:23.000 I forget.

00:44:24.000 But he got him in a rear naked choke and put him to sleep.

00:44:26.000 And it was one of those ones where the guy looks dead.

00:44:28.000 He's like lying there. 0.99

00:44:29.000 I mean, it was a fucking nasty choke, man. 0.99

00:44:32.000 And yeah, like, and it's, look at him. 0.99

00:44:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:35.000 I saw that.

00:44:37.000 It was dark, dude.

00:44:38.000 It's another meme out this week along with the WMG girl.

00:44:40.000 Puller Girl.

00:44:41.000 What's his name?

00:44:44.000 Bro, it was nuts.

00:44:45.000 The memes on these things are nuts nowadays.

00:44:47.000 Oh, the internet is undefeated.

00:44:49.000 Oh, it's crazy.

00:44:50.000 Oh, my God.

00:44:50.000 They're so good at memes.

00:44:51.000 There's so many people out there working jobs that they hate that are smart and funny.

00:44:56.000 Yep. 0.93

00:44:58.000 We were talking about it the other day, but have you caught up with any of those WNBA?

00:45:02.000 What's her name? 0.57

00:45:03.000 The girl that's pointing at her? 1.00

00:45:04.000 Sophie Cunningham. 1.00

00:45:05.000 Yeah.

00:45:06.000 Yeah, I've been paying attention.

00:45:08.000 Can you put that thing in the middle?

00:45:09.000 Put the ashtray in the middle?

00:45:12.000 I've been paying attention very little, but one of the things that I did watch is.

00:45:16.000 All the fouls. 1.00

00:45:17.000 Like, these bitches throw each other to the ground. 1.00

00:45:20.000 And they poke each other in the eyes. 1.00

00:45:23.000 Like, they do this.

00:45:24.000 They literally jab each other in the eyes.

00:45:26.000 It's crazy.

00:45:27.000 Like, they foul, and also they travel so much.

00:45:31.000 Oh, it's crazy.

00:45:32.000 They take like four or five steps, and then no one calls them on it.

00:45:35.000 Oh, yeah.

00:45:37.000 Double dribble.

00:45:38.000 Is there a trend now to not call traveling?

00:45:42.000 Yes, without a doubt.

00:45:44.000 In the actual NBA, it's a thing, too.

00:45:47.000 It's hard to get into this without going way into the weeds, but the NBA has a technically different rule than college and high school and everyone else where they call it a gather step, and they definitely would call it in high school, but they work all day manipulating it with the referee, watching them saying, You can do that, but you can't do that.

00:46:05.000 You can do this, but you can't do that.

00:46:06.000 And so they've got it to a place where everything they're doing looks like traveling and double dribbles, but guys will break it down in slow mo, and you'll be like, Well, technically it's not.

00:46:16.000 It's weird.

00:46:17.000 I always thought if you took a step, you had to bounce the ball.

00:46:19.000 Yeah.

00:46:20.000 That's how it should be.

00:46:21.000 You're allowed to.

00:46:22.000 Doesn't it seem like that should be how it is?

00:46:25.000 When you see guys taking four steps, you're like, what's going on?

00:46:28.000 Do you want to see exciting basketball or not?

00:46:30.000 Yeah.

00:46:31.000 I do. 1.00

00:46:32.000 Well, then let's let the referees call the game how they call it.

00:46:32.000 All right.

00:46:35.000 But I think there's something exciting about you having to bounce that ball because you won't be able to score as much.

00:46:40.000 Right?

00:46:41.000 Correct.

00:46:42.000 Like if you have to bounce it every two steps, whatever it is. 0.94

00:46:45.000 I wish I loved the NBA like I did when I was a kid and fucking Barkley and Jordan and Ewing and all these people were. 0.98

00:46:53.000 Physical. 0.93

00:46:54.000 It is just a whole different game now.

00:46:56.000 So, back then, was it traveling?

00:46:59.000 Like when the Larry Bird days?

00:47:01.000 Hell yeah.

00:47:02.000 Unless Jordan talked to the ref and said, yo, you're wrong.

00:47:05.000 Let me do what I want. 0.99

00:47:06.000 Well, Jordan had the cheat code where he would leap from the fucking free throw line. 0.99

00:47:11.000 That is so. 0.97

00:47:12.000 When I've watched videos of that, it doesn't even look real.

00:47:15.000 He was such an amazing athlete.

00:47:18.000 He was so good and so possessed by his desire to win.

00:47:22.000 He would do things that you would just go, How does a person fly?

00:47:27.000 Dude, imagine if he was like one of those jumpers, those long distance jumpers.

00:47:32.000 He'd probably have an insane jump.

00:47:34.000 Yeah.

00:47:34.000 Because he's going from the free throw line in the air.

00:47:38.000 That's crazy.

00:47:39.000 Everything he did was crazy.

00:47:41.000 The way he did things, the way he practiced, everything.

00:47:45.000 Yeah.

00:47:46.000 And didn't he not make his college team?

00:47:48.000 No.

00:47:49.000 High school team?

00:47:50.000 No.

00:47:50.000 Wasn't there like one year?

00:47:52.000 When he was a freshman, he didn't make the varsity team.

00:47:54.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:47:55.000 Most freshmen don't.

00:47:55.000 Yeah.

00:47:58.000 Perfect.

00:47:58.000 May have changed basketball history forever.

00:48:01.000 Most freshmen, though.

00:48:01.000 That doesn't make sense because they're not even developed yet.

00:48:04.000 Yeah.

00:48:05.000 I know kids in Texas, they keep their kids back a year.

00:48:08.000 Wow.

00:48:09.000 They want their kid to be bigger.

00:48:11.000 I want Billy to be the biggest freshman.

00:48:13.000 I want him to be a 15 year old freshman.

00:48:15.000 We're pushing for right before his 15th birthday.

00:48:17.000 Like, hey, 15 is a sophomore. 1.00

00:48:20.000 Billy's a fucking cheater. 1.00

00:48:22.000 Why are you sandbagging Billy? 1.00

00:48:23.000 Yeah.

00:48:24.000 That doesn't bother me nearly as much in a sport like football where I see what you're doing.

00:48:30.000 Like, you're preparing a kid for a professional future, perhaps, especially in Texas.

00:48:35.000 They're very into it down here.

00:48:36.000 But if it's in wrestling, it's like, hey, Yeah. 0.98

00:48:40.000 Hey, there's fucking no money in this. 0.96

00:48:42.000 And that kid's 16 and he's in the ninth grade. 0.99

00:48:42.000 Right. 0.99

00:48:45.000 Yeah.

00:48:47.000 It's nuts.

00:48:49.000 How old is the oldest that a kid can be and compete in high school sports?

00:48:56.000 Jamie?

00:48:57.000 Please put that into our sponsor perplexity.

00:49:00.000 Let's find out.

00:49:01.000 I wonder if it varies by sport.

00:49:03.000 Definitely by sport and by state.

00:49:06.000 Interesting.

00:49:09.000 Do they all have a cap at 18?

00:49:11.000 Or do they allow you to compete at 19?

00:49:13.000 Yeah, there's going to be a.

00:49:14.000 But before I even hit enter, I know it's going to say something about like your graduating class can't be out maybe more than like two years or something like that in case you got held back or you had an injury or something like that.

00:49:24.000 Boy, I remember from my days of being like 17 and 18, the difference between 17 and 19 was huge.

00:49:32.000 Oh, yeah.

00:49:32.000 It's a big difference.

00:49:34.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:49:34.000 By the time you're 19, you're basically man strength. 1.00

00:49:37.000 You know, 17, I was like a boy still.

00:49:40.000 Yeah.

00:49:40.000 You know, like.

00:49:42.000 It was flimsy.

00:49:43.000 17, it was like a flimsy kid.

00:49:45.000 By the time I was 19, it's a different animal.

00:49:47.000 You've got two more years of training and testosterone in you.

00:49:51.000 If you're a wrestler, that's got to be a huge advantage.

00:49:56.000 Everything in wrestling is a huge advantage.

00:49:58.000 Starting one year earlier is crazy.

00:50:00.000 Huge, huge advantage.

00:50:02.000 Oh, bro.

00:50:04.000 That's so rude.

00:50:05.000 Making 19 year olds wrestle against possibly 15 year olds is crazy.

00:50:11.000 So if you are in a certain weight class, That's not strong.

00:50:15.000 Like, I wasn't a good wrestler.

00:50:16.000 I was a pretty good wrestler, but I started.

00:50:19.000 I was on the varsity team at my high school.

00:50:21.000 And, like, one year I didn't even cut weight, or one weight class I didn't cut.

00:50:28.000 There was a guy that was below me at like 126 or 128, and he was better than me.

00:50:33.000 And so the next available weight class was 134, which is what I normally weighed when I was 15.

00:50:39.000 So I just wrestled at 134.

00:50:41.000 That's lovely.

00:50:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:42.000 But I could have been in there with a 19 year old fucking animal who weighs $1.60. 1.00

00:50:48.000 And he dries himself out briefly to hit 134. 0.99

00:50:51.000 And there were guys like that, man. 0.99

00:50:53.000 You would see them at like the states and you go, what the fuck? 1.00

00:50:56.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:50:56.000 And they were going to camps. 0.99

00:50:58.000 So they were wrestling 365 days a year, all year long.

00:51:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:51:02.000 I just started.

00:51:03.000 I didn't know anything. 0.99

00:51:04.000 I started as a freshman in high school and got fucked up. 0.99

00:51:04.000 Same. 0.99

00:51:08.000 I didn't even start as a freshman.

00:51:09.000 I started as a sophomore. 0.99

00:51:11.000 I started as a sophomore because some kid kicked my ass in the locker room. 0.99

00:51:15.000 Some kid grabbed me in a headlock and threw me to the ground and didn't punch me. 0.99

00:51:18.000 He could have punched me, decided not to, but I was so humiliated.

00:51:21.000 I was like, oh my God, I need to learn how to wrestle.

00:51:23.000 And then I also wrestled in the park, like in the grass with my friend Steven.

00:51:28.000 And I thought I'd be able, I was a good athlete.

00:51:30.000 I was doing karate.

00:51:31.000 I was like, he can't take me down.

00:51:32.000 To be down instantly.

00:51:33.000 I was like, oh no, this is terrible.

00:51:36.000 Yeah, it's a whole different beast.

00:51:38.000 It's also like how tired you get.

00:51:41.000 I remember thinking, I used to think that I had worked out before that because I had taken karate classes and done some taekwondo.

00:51:47.000 I thought I'd worked out.

00:51:49.000 You don't even know what working out is until you go through a wrestling practice.

00:51:52.000 You're like, we're running stairs?

00:51:54.000 What?

00:51:55.000 We're carrying guys around the wrestling room. 1.00

00:51:58.000 You pick up your partner, your training partner, you have the fireman carry them around the fucking room. 0.99

00:52:02.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:52:03.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:52:04.000 Then you're doing push ups and sit ups till you puke, and then you're doing live drills. 1.00

00:52:08.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:52:09.000 Non stop. 1.00

00:52:10.000 Dude, animals.

00:52:12.000 Yeah, we would rotate.

00:52:14.000 You know, there's all those different weight classes. 0.93

00:52:16.000 And just for shits and giggles, you know, one of the drills was, you know, escape from the next guy. 0.97

00:52:22.000 All right, beep. 0.98

00:52:23.000 Whistleblowers escape. 0.99

00:52:24.000 You're on bottom. 1.00

00:52:25.000 You have to get out.

00:52:26.000 The next guy.

00:52:27.000 So sometimes at a 103 weight class, I would have Hugh Frost, who was, I think, 235, 245, 250.

00:52:35.000 You have to rest on them.

00:52:37.000 Oh, yeah.

00:52:37.000 Just for one drill.

00:52:39.000 And it's a fucking joke. 1.00

00:52:40.000 It's a pancake. 1.00

00:52:41.000 And he would probably, he was probably showing mercy at the time, obviously, but not really, because he doesn't want to, he doesn't want to let this little fucking shithead 103 out from under him. 0.99

00:52:50.000 So he's, you know, putting enough pressure to keep everybody there. 0.95

00:52:55.000 Not to mention the 165 freak of nature made of muscle and the 185.

00:52:59.000 You know, it was just a drill, but whoo.

00:53:02.000 Reality hits hard.

00:53:04.000 That's how you see the difference between 15 and 17 and all that.

00:53:08.000 And someone who actually really knows how to wrestle and just wrestler strength.

00:53:12.000 Like, I always tell people if you want to look at MMA, like, what is the most important skill?

00:53:17.000 The foundation is wrestling.

00:53:19.000 The foundation.

00:53:20.000 If you wanted your kid to be a badass fighter, you're like, my kid really loves fighting.

00:53:24.000 He thinks he wants to do it, but I want to prepare him right.

00:53:26.000 What should I do?

00:53:27.000 Teach him how to wrestle.

00:53:29.000 Get that kid into a really good wrestling program.

00:53:31.000 Because if you have advanced wrestling, you look at how it shuts down.

00:53:35.000 So many fighters.

00:53:36.000 Like, look at what Hamzat did to Drekis Duplessis.

00:53:40.000 Hamzat, he just ragged all of them.

00:53:43.000 His wrestling is at such a high level. 0.87

00:53:45.000 And Drekis, who was a world champion, couldn't do shit to stop it. 0.65

00:53:48.000 He just dragged him to the ground anytime he wanted to. 0.81

00:53:51.000 Got him at a crucifix like three times.

00:53:52.000 Mirab against O'Malley.

00:53:55.000 I mean, exactly.

00:53:56.000 Exactly.

00:53:57.000 We're watching a guy that does a no look, right hand knockout punch into a salute, no look at his opponent, right?

00:54:08.000 I mean, it's just impossible. 0.99

00:54:10.000 It appears impossible in every Khabib fight.

00:54:13.000 The thing I always think about first when I think about Khabib fighting is him being on top and having his feet under the other dude's feet, which is just, that's it.

00:54:23.000 It's the final level when you can't even begin the process of posturing out in any way.

00:54:31.000 You are nothing, you are a tissue in an octagon with a man.

00:54:34.000 And he's wailing on your face. 0.99

00:54:36.000 He's wailing on your face, and he has your legs triangled underneath his legs.

00:54:41.000 It's always funny when casual UFC fans don't understand those little things like that, that aren't even part of the fight.

00:54:51.000 They're looking up here, waiting to see if the punches are going to rain down.

00:54:55.000 Yeah, here we go.

00:54:56.000 But the positioning of his feet is what I'm always looking at and how scary it can be here.

00:55:03.000 He's not even doing it right now.

00:55:04.000 He's hell on top of people.

00:55:05.000 He is right here.

00:55:06.000 But that leg being thrown is torture.

00:55:09.000 It's all the weight.

00:55:10.000 Nothing you can do.

00:55:11.000 There's just nowhere to go.

00:55:13.000 And all that weight on those hips, people don't realize.

00:55:17.000 Like, I notice immediately if I ever see somebody that's kind of on top and their knees are on the ground, like, if you look, his right knee isn't on the ground.

00:55:25.000 It looks like it might be.

00:55:26.000 And look how he keeps slamming those left hands into Johnson's head.

00:55:30.000 I mean, he got hit with like 15, 20 unanswered, full force left hand blows.

00:55:35.000 He's just holding his arms so he can't move.

00:55:36.000 Bro, he's horrible.

00:55:37.000 He was horrible. 0.98

00:55:38.000 He was so good.

00:55:39.000 Khabib was so good.

00:55:40.000 And he would do this to world class fighters, man.

00:55:43.000 And by the way, Johnson clipped him in that fight, too.

00:55:45.000 It was one of the few times in his career where he got clipped.

00:55:50.000 Who's the one that looked really frustrated?

00:55:50.000 Yeah, man.

00:55:52.000 What's that?

00:55:52.000 Who's the one that looked super frustrated in that?

00:55:54.000 Barboza?

00:55:55.000 I'm just asking.

00:55:56.000 I don't remember who it was.

00:55:57.000 Barboza was one of them. 0.79

00:55:58.000 But I mean, a lot of guys who fought Khabib look frustrated because there's not a damn thing they could do. 0.63

00:56:02.000 Nope.

00:56:03.000 Barboza was like early in the first round.

00:56:05.000 He had that thousand yard stare. 1.00

00:56:06.000 I was like, fuck. 1.00

00:56:07.000 I have to go through three rounds of this where they just give up on the idea that they can even win. 1.00

00:56:12.000 Like, all you're doing is trying to survive.

00:56:12.000 Yeah.

00:56:15.000 He was a monster, dude. 0.95

00:56:15.000 Yeah. 0.95

00:56:17.000 Like, that, his leg being trapped, is nuts.

00:56:21.000 And look how he's scooting with it.

00:56:23.000 And he's just slamming punches.

00:56:24.000 And then you get up, he's just chasing you.

00:56:26.000 Oh, yeah, I got the gun right back down, I thought. 0.99

00:56:28.000 But if you get up, he's just going to fucking chase you and drag you to the ground again. 0.99

00:56:31.000 So you blew all that energy to get up. 0.99

00:56:34.000 The moment you try to punch or throw a kick, he's on you.

00:56:37.000 You're on your back again. 0.99

00:56:38.000 Punch to the face. 1.00

00:56:39.000 Punch to the face. 0.99

00:56:41.000 Wrestling's giant.

00:56:42.000 It is the biggest skill.

00:56:44.000 Yeah. 0.72

00:56:45.000 You have to know how to do everything else too nowadays because all these kids that you see in the contender series, these young guys coming up, man, they're all so fucking talented. 0.58

00:56:55.000 He tried to wheel kick them.

00:56:57.000 And really, more than anything, I feel like being out wrestled and being just trapped on the ground is so psychologically demoralizing when you've been training for a UFC fight and the crowd is out.

00:57:09.000 There and the lights are on you, and you see the logos on the mat because you're facing it.

00:57:13.000 Back that up a little bit.

00:57:14.000 Let me show you something here, too.

00:57:16.000 What's interesting here before that, before the clinch.

00:57:18.000 So, after he throws the wheel kick, like Barbosa's trying to win, right?

00:57:22.000 This is the third round.

00:57:23.000 He's trying to win and he throws this.

00:57:25.000 But look, no, go before that.

00:57:28.000 When he throws the kick, here it is.

00:57:30.000 So, he throws the kick and misses.

00:57:31.000 He's so tired now that when Khabib moves for him, he clinches.

00:57:35.000 Look, he instigated the clinch.

00:57:38.000 Instead of pushing away, instead of circling to his left, He clinched because he's so tired, dude.

00:57:43.000 He's so tired.

00:57:44.000 And this dude just, look at that face.

00:57:46.000 He just drags him down to the ground again.

00:57:48.000 Which is hell.

00:57:49.000 Two on one on that arm underneath him.

00:57:52.000 Legs being thrown in.

00:57:54.000 He doesn't know what to do with his legs.

00:57:55.000 He actually just put his foot above Khabib because it's so confusing.

00:58:00.000 All that weight on you, you don't know where to even begin to start getting up.

00:58:05.000 Well, the first thing he's got to do is get that left leg free, and he's not going to.

00:58:08.000 That was the part before the crawling thing. 0.87

00:58:11.000 He was a monster. 0.99

00:58:12.000 He was a monster. 0.98

00:58:13.000 And retired undefeated.

00:58:15.000 Yeah.

00:58:16.000 And there's something to being on that mat, not being able to move, knowing that the clock is ticking.

00:58:21.000 And this is not how you picture this going.

00:58:24.000 Not only that, this is with the current rules where I think there should be no stand ups.

00:58:30.000 I think the only time there should be a stand up is when there's a foul.

00:58:32.000 Yeah, I completely agree with you.

00:58:34.000 I hate it when they stand people up.

00:58:36.000 Even if it's boring.

00:58:37.000 Yeah, I get it's boring, but the guy can't get up and this guy's holding him down.

00:58:40.000 So he's winning.

00:58:41.000 He's winning.

00:58:42.000 See, I know he's not doing enough.

00:58:44.000 What does that mean?

00:58:45.000 He's biding his time.

00:58:47.000 You've got to let a guy.

00:58:48.000 Have strategy.

00:58:49.000 Like when Muhammad Ali did rope a dope against George Foreman.

00:58:53.000 Imagine if the referee's like, you've got to punch back.

00:58:55.000 If you don't punch back, no, he's got a strategy.

00:58:58.000 Strategy is let George Foreman burn himself out and then eventually tee off on him, and that's what he did.

00:59:03.000 Yeah.

00:59:04.000 It stinks that referees can let the crowd get in their head.

00:59:08.000 Well, it's the organization wants action too, the fans want action.

00:59:13.000 A lot of people disagree with me, and I understand their point.

00:59:16.000 I understand their point, especially if you're a casual. 1.00

00:59:18.000 Like, it's gay. 1.00

00:59:19.000 Get them up. 1.00

00:59:20.000 Make them fight.

00:59:21.000 You don't want to fight.

00:59:22.000 They want to hug.

00:59:23.000 Boo.

00:59:24.000 Right.

00:59:25.000 So, what?

00:59:26.000 This is the sport.

00:59:27.000 And if that guy who's on top, who's biding his time and recovering, then decides, okay, now's the time.

00:59:33.000 Let me start dropping some bombs because I've recovered.

00:59:37.000 Well, he held the position and he recovered his energy and now he's winning.

00:59:37.000 Good.

00:59:42.000 Like, let him fucking fight. 1.00

00:59:44.000 Let him fight. 1.00

00:59:45.000 Get out of there. 0.95

00:59:46.000 Get out of there.

00:59:47.000 Yep.

00:59:48.000 There shouldn't be stand ups.

00:59:49.000 And I get it.

00:59:50.000 The referee gets that cheer from the crowd.

00:59:53.000 You know, it feels rewarding.

00:59:55.000 Sometimes when they stand fights up, I get excited.

00:59:57.000 Yeah.

00:59:57.000 I go, yeah.

00:59:58.000 Oh, yeah.

00:59:59.000 Here we go.

01:00:00.000 That striker has a chance.

01:00:01.000 But my position is still the same.

01:00:03.000 I don't think they should stand him up.

01:00:04.000 I'm worse than that.

01:00:05.000 I think they should start each round where they lost the last round.

01:00:09.000 Oh, I love that.

01:00:10.000 That's great.

01:00:10.000 Yeah.

01:00:11.000 So every round, why do you get to stand up?

01:00:12.000 Why do you get that advantage that a striker gets of standing up when you didn't earn it?

01:00:16.000 Right.

01:00:17.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:00:17.000 Get back down there. 0.99

01:00:18.000 Get back down there.

01:00:19.000 Crucifix.

01:00:20.000 Why'd you have to start the round off in a crucifix?

01:00:23.000 Yeah.

01:00:23.000 That's how the round ended.

01:00:25.000 They look at the big screen, get a freeze frame of the position, referee sets you in the exact position and says, ready, fight.

01:00:32.000 Yeah.

01:00:33.000 I love that. 1.00

01:00:34.000 Yeah, fuck off. 1.00

01:00:36.000 That's what the sport is supposed to be. 1.00

01:00:38.000 And sometimes it's going to be boring.

01:00:40.000 Yeah.

01:00:41.000 But that's real, though.

01:00:42.000 At least it's real.

01:00:43.000 Because there's been a lot of fights where the guy got taken down in the first round, starts out the second round and blasts the guy and knocks him out.

01:00:50.000 And it's like, okay, it's exciting to watch, but he didn't earn that position.

01:00:54.000 He just got that position because the other guy survived the first round.

01:00:57.000 And so it's like, it's one fight, it's not five fights.

01:01:00.000 Right.

01:01:01.000 So I think it should be one continuous fight with a one minute break in each round.

01:01:05.000 Yeah, that'd be like if the team losing automatically got the kickoff after halftime or something like that.

01:01:12.000 Yeah, and look, guaranteed, if I was running the UFC, it would probably go bankrupt. 0.99

01:01:17.000 I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. 0.97

01:01:17.000 I'm not the right guy. 0.97

01:01:20.000 I'd be a terrible promoter.

01:01:23.000 I'd be too honest about stuff, and I'd want to give people fights that maybe they weren't the most exciting fighters, but they were above the other person in the rankings.

01:01:31.000 I think the rankings should be the whole reason why you make fights.

01:01:37.000 Sami Zayn won the Universal WWE Championship over this weekend at a big pay per view.

01:01:42.000 I have no idea who that is, but I'm happy for him.

01:01:44.000 Shocked Cody Rhodes.

01:01:47.000 It was like a guaranteed win.

01:01:48.000 I wonder what happened.

01:01:49.000 Rolled him up real quick.

01:01:51.000 Do you think maybe that was fixed?

01:01:52.000 Well, it was very entertaining.

01:01:56.000 Very entertaining.

01:01:57.000 I'm sure it was.

01:01:58.000 I just don't understand how you go back and forth.

01:02:00.000 Oh, it's the best.

01:02:01.000 I know you love it.

01:02:02.000 Well, sometimes.

01:02:04.000 That's what I said about this White House card, by the way, is like.

01:02:09.000 There's nothing that could have happened that they could have written if it was written that would have made it more exciting.

01:02:17.000 Right.

01:02:18.000 It felt real the whole time.

01:02:19.000 And the fights that happened before made it feel like anything could happen in that main event.

01:02:24.000 Like it just felt raw and real, but also storyline, which then when UFC is at its best like that, it's like the WWE.

01:02:35.000 That's what's interesting.

01:02:36.000 Of course, it's not as, you know, uh, But it was a special moment.

01:02:46.000 Regardless of how you feel politically, and I understand it.

01:02:50.000 If you hate the Republicans and you hate the whole idea, I get it.

01:02:54.000 But just as a person who loves a sport, it was a very unusual experience.

01:03:00.000 Very unusual.

01:03:02.000 I think people have to just look at some things that way.

01:03:05.000 Some people have a really hard time separating themselves politically because they're going, oh no, the White House puts on this thing, there's all this bad press because of the war, there's bad press because.

01:03:14.000 This and that, and they put on this thing at the White House, and it sort of like MAGA washes everything.

01:03:20.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:21.000 Makes everybody like them again, gives them positive press, which is undeniable.

01:03:21.000 Yeah.

01:03:26.000 Undeniable, it gave them positive press.

01:03:29.000 I mean, the amount of people that have seen it is nuts.

01:03:32.000 You know, I think just on Paramount, it's something like 30 something million now.

01:03:37.000 And, you know, they were telling me that they thought it was probably 150 million people had watched it in some form, which was, you know, TikTok clips, Instagram, YouTube.

01:03:48.000 That is a nutty number, man.

01:03:50.000 And I think Dana and Hunter, they were thinking it could get to like a billion people see it.

01:03:55.000 Which is just nuts.

01:03:56.000 Yeah.

01:03:57.000 In some form, you know, highlight reels, clips.

01:03:59.000 I mean, just the Gaetje fight alone, just the highlight reels.

01:04:02.000 How many people watch those on Instagram and TikTok?

01:04:05.000 Totally.

01:04:06.000 The awareness of the event of the moment was so huge.

01:04:09.000 It was like nothing else.

01:04:11.000 Like, it didn't feel like any other event we had ever been.

01:04:14.000 Like, I was nervous before it started.

01:04:16.000 Like, I never get nervous for the UFC, I get excited, but I was, like, legitimately nervous.

01:04:16.000 Yeah.

01:04:20.000 I was, like, I was feeling, like, a little, like, this is crazy.

01:04:23.000 Like, we're on the White House lawn.

01:04:25.000 Nuts.

01:04:25.000 The flyover is when it really hit.

01:04:28.000 Yeah.

01:04:28.000 Well, when they had all those jets together and they were so close to each other.

01:04:31.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:04:32.000 Like imagine if one of those fucking clips into their wing and spirals right into the ellipse. 0.99

01:04:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:04:38.000 Yeah. 0.54

01:04:39.000 Crazy.

01:04:40.000 What a spectacle.

01:04:41.000 Yeah. 0.78

01:04:42.000 They would have definitely canceled the fights. 0.77

01:04:43.000 Because think they canceled the White House correspondence dinner because of that assassination attack. 0.99

01:04:48.000 God damn it. 1.00

01:04:49.000 Oh, you had a bunch of bangers on that, I heard. 1.00

01:04:51.000 So annoying.

01:04:51.000 Yeah.

01:04:53.000 I was more excited for that than like anything.

01:04:56.000 How did they just cancel it?

01:04:58.000 Why didn't they reschedule it?

01:04:59.000 Maybe they're going to wait until the ballroom's finished.

01:05:02.000 Because that's the argument for the ballroom, that they could have it at a place like that where it's completely secured.

01:05:07.000 Yeah.

01:05:08.000 Kurt Masker thinks the whole thing's fake.

01:05:11.000 Oh, another fake assassination attempt?

01:05:13.000 Yeah.

01:05:14.000 How'd that guy get in there?

01:05:15.000 Yeah. 0.93

01:05:15.000 Well, I think some people are just incompetent. 0.93

01:05:19.000 There's incompetence, there's bad security, there's people that don't do their job.

01:05:23.000 Also, there's also people that you didn't expect to be a problem and were a problem.

01:05:28.000 And you're in a hotel.

01:05:30.000 Also, the guy made it to the first level of the first scanning of security.

01:05:37.000 It's not like he made it into the thing.

01:05:39.000 But he did shoot somebody, right?

01:05:42.000 I think he shot one of the Secret Service agents in his bulletproof vest.

01:05:45.000 Yeah.

01:05:46.000 Is that true, Jamie?

01:05:47.000 I think so.

01:05:48.000 See, there were so many stories online.

01:05:49.000 It's so hard to know what was true and what was not.

01:05:52.000 But I think the guy was a teacher, like a substitute teacher. 1.00

01:05:57.000 Nuts. 0.65

01:05:58.000 It's all nuts.

01:05:59.000 It's like, man, you didn't think this out.

01:06:01.000 You scheduled it for July 24th.

01:06:04.000 Okay.

01:06:05.000 The correspondence dinner?

01:06:07.000 It's on this one.

01:06:07.000 Wow.

01:06:07.000 Yep.

01:06:09.000 You might want to polish up some of them bits.

01:06:11.000 Yeah.

01:06:11.000 It's going to be some new stuff.

01:06:13.000 Go back and tag some of them with some current events.

01:06:16.000 Where are they going to have it?

01:06:18.000 Oh, sorry.

01:06:21.000 If they have it at the same spot, that's not smart.

01:06:25.000 New event held July 24th.

01:06:28.000 That's not saying where.

01:06:30.000 Is that the Pentagon?

01:06:32.000 They might wait.

01:06:33.000 They might wait to release that.

01:06:35.000 Oh.

01:06:37.000 Yeah, it's not saying.

01:06:38.000 Oh, Waldorf, excuse me, Waldorf, Astoria.

01:06:42.000 Oh, okay. 1.00

01:06:43.000 Well, I guarantee you they'll tighten that bitch up a little bit. 1.00

01:06:47.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:06:49.000 I know he was excited to do the jokes.

01:06:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:06:53.000 No, he was very pumped.

01:06:53.000 Yeah.

01:06:55.000 Yeah, they were bangers.

01:06:57.000 I ran them because the thing happened.

01:07:00.000 I happened to be performing at the Kennedy Center the next weekend.

01:07:06.000 So I ran the jokes.

01:07:08.000 And I realized that I had Adam Ray as a special guest that was on before me.

01:07:13.000 He brought me on stage.

01:07:15.000 So I go, you know what?

01:07:17.000 Even I wrote jokes for the president of the United States to make fun of the press and everybody at the White House correspondence dinner.

01:07:23.000 But I just realized Adam's here.

01:07:25.000 Adam, you want to come out and read these in Trump's voice?

01:07:28.000 And so he was seeing the jokes for the first time.

01:07:31.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:07:32.000 And we had so much fun.

01:07:34.000 I didn't know he does a Trump, which doesn't surprise me.

01:07:37.000 I mean, his impressions are insane.

01:07:38.000 He can do anything.

01:07:39.000 Yeah, he can do anybody. 1.00

01:07:40.000 He didn't even, he did, he was dabbling in a Biden the week that I hit him up to do Trump Biden, which I think is a fucking guy. 0.97

01:07:48.000 Think it's like 40 million or seven, some crazy amount. 0.95

01:07:52.000 And again, just like the UFC, God only knows after clips, but it was a monumental comedy fucking moment having Shane as Trump right before the election, right before the election, right after their first debate, where Biden was clearly fucking zonked and sleepy and just couldn't compete at all. 0.85

01:08:11.000 And so I hit up Adam via text. 0.55

01:08:15.000 I'm like, Do you have a Biden?

01:08:16.000 He's like, I cover it for five seconds in my stand up.

01:08:21.000 I'm like, Uh, Are you free on Monday to fly to Austin and do Biden if I can get Shane as Trump?

01:08:28.000 And I remember telling Shane, like, I'm like, this is going to be an interesting ask.

01:08:34.000 But I, you know, I'm just like, hey, Adam's got a Biden.

01:08:37.000 And Shane's like, I have something to do on Monday.

01:08:39.000 I'm canceling it.

01:08:40.000 I'm doing Trump.

01:08:41.000 He immediately saw the brilliance.

01:08:43.000 It was just such a hot topic at the time. 0.98

01:08:46.000 And my God, it was fucking crazy. 0.87

01:08:48.000 There's clips that I see of that episode, and I never rewatch Kill Tonies or anything. 0.98

01:08:54.000 I'll see clips sometimes, and I literally go, Oh my God. 1.00

01:08:58.000 Holy fucking shit. 1.00

01:08:59.000 There's one part where Trump goes, How many more retards are you going to bring out here? 1.00

01:09:04.000 Because there have been like two handicapped people on the show.

01:09:07.000 All right. 1.00

01:09:07.000 How many more retards do you have come? 1.00

01:09:09.000 As I'm pulling a name out of the bucket in real time, I go, Anything can happen, Mr. President. 1.00

01:09:14.000 Let's see what the next guy's like.

01:09:16.000 And he comes out and he has like these weird deformed penguin arms.

01:09:20.000 Oh, God.

01:09:20.000 And you see Shane as Trump and the crowd's dying because they see him first.

01:09:25.000 And you see Shane as Trump look and go, Fuck. 1.00

01:09:30.000 It's just one of his facial reactions to things, or like his greatest secret fucking hilarious weapon. 1.00

01:09:37.000 And when he's Trump, it's even amplified. 0.96

01:09:40.000 It's like, in my opinion, 10 or 20% funnier than even Shane is.

01:09:44.000 I mean, I'm sure he'd admit to this and know it because Trump is just such an interesting, polarizing character. 0.68

01:09:49.000 And his take on him is so fucking funny. 0.99

01:09:52.000 It's psychotic. 0.98

01:09:53.000 His impression's so good.

01:09:54.000 It's the greatest Trump impression of all time because it's like the jokes are so good.

01:09:58.000 Oh, by far.

01:09:59.000 He's so good.

01:10:00.000 What's funny, Jay?

01:10:01.000 That's on the part.

01:10:02.000 So epic.

01:10:03.000 Back it up a little bit.

01:10:05.000 Watch another fun appearance by Drew Nickens.

01:10:07.000 This is the best.

01:10:12.000 All right. 1.00

01:10:13.000 Tony, how many more retarded guys do you have back there? 0.99

01:10:16.000 Anything can happen. 1.00

01:10:17.000 This crowd is hungry for more retarded guys. 1.00

01:10:20.000 Frankly, I don't think we've seen enough retarded guys. 1.00

01:10:23.000 How about a retarded racist? 1.00

01:10:24.000 Would you like to see? 1.00

01:10:27.000 This next person could be one.

01:10:28.000 I pulled it out of the bucket.

01:10:30.000 It is the Kill Tony debut, I do believe.

01:10:33.000 Jacob Barr, everybody.

01:10:35.000 Jacob Barr.

01:10:38.000 Oh, my God.

01:10:40.000 Thank you.

01:10:41.000 Well, well, well.

01:10:42.000 Oh, my God.

01:10:44.000 Okay.

01:10:45.000 Careful what you look for.

01:10:49.000 We're going to reset this, Jacob.

01:10:49.000 Okay, hold on.

01:10:52.000 What's funny is Adam knows better than anybody that you're not supposed to say anything after the bucket bowl comes up.

01:10:59.000 So, me grabbing the mic out of his hand and putting it down is even another layer of hilarious.

01:11:05.000 To all of us, it's like Biden's misbehaving.

01:11:08.000 I don't know.

01:11:09.000 Did you see Shane's face when he notices his aunt?

01:11:13.000 And then.

01:11:13.000 This is it.

01:11:19.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:11:21.000 He's our Jackie Gleason. 1.00

01:11:23.000 Oh, yeah, without a doubt.

01:11:25.000 Plus, plus, man.

01:11:25.000 That's what it is.

01:11:26.000 He's the great one of our generation. 0.99

01:11:29.000 What people don't realize, I mean, obviously, is that he is that funny all the fucking time. 0.97

01:11:37.000 All the time. 0.97

01:11:38.000 When we're hanging out in the green room. 0.98

01:11:39.000 Every bar, every restaurant, every green room, every stairway, fucking anywhere, everything. 0.99

01:11:47.000 He is. 0.98

01:11:48.000 I always compare it to Mike Tyson in his prime.

01:11:50.000 He just hits harder and different, doing the smallest little things, even if it's a face, if somebody says something and he just reacts to it.

01:11:58.000 It's crazy.

01:11:59.000 It's also always fun.

01:12:00.000 He's a fun guy.

01:12:01.000 He wants to have fun.

01:12:03.000 Even when he's cracking jokes, it's fun.

01:12:06.000 I know he was very reluctant to do the roast.

01:12:09.000 He was a little reluctant to even host that.

01:12:11.000 I don't want to do those things.

01:12:13.000 Yeah.

01:12:16.000 Well, everything is.

01:12:18.000 Everything could be something he crushed so hard, it caused a real ruckus.

01:12:22.000 Him and I end capping that thing, you know what I mean?

01:12:26.000 Yeah, it was supposed to be a you know, this roast of black excellence, and me and Shane are just having the time of our lives.

01:12:34.000 He got who said it was a roast of black excellence?

01:12:36.000 You're just saying that because it was Kevin Hart?

01:12:38.000 Well, yeah, that's that's like that wasn't like explicitly stated or anything, right? 0.99

01:12:42.000 I mean, because imagine if you said we're gonna have a roast of white excellence, right? 0.99

01:12:48.000 Exactly, oh, I know, crazy. 1.00

01:12:50.000 Oh, yeah.

01:12:51.000 It's weird.

01:12:52.000 You can and can't say.

01:12:53.000 That's weird.

01:12:53.000 Oh, yeah.

01:12:54.000 You know?

01:12:54.000 Oh, yeah.

01:12:55.000 Yeah.

01:12:56.000 That's a whole thing with that.

01:12:57.000 I mean, you can't talk about this, but you can talk about that.

01:13:01.000 Well, it's just weird what we accept, which doesn't bother me at all.

01:13:06.000 But like Cain Velasquez, when he fought in the UFC, he used to have brown pride tattooed on his chest.

01:13:11.000 Cool.

01:13:12.000 And his family came over from Mexico.

01:13:13.000 They literally walked here.

01:13:16.000 Yeah.

01:13:16.000 White pride, not so popular.

01:13:19.000 Right.

01:13:19.000 White pride on your chest, you know?

01:13:21.000 Fucking Sean Strickland just decided to get white pride. 1.00

01:13:26.000 And he posted a picture on Instagram of him as a world champion with white pride on his chest next to Cain Velasquez as a world champion with brown pride on his chest. 0.99

01:13:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:13:37.000 And people would lose their fucking minds. 1.00

01:13:41.000 And again, not saying that Sean would ever put white pride on his chest. 1.00

01:13:41.000 Yes. 1.00

01:13:45.000 No, he would.

01:13:45.000 He would.

01:13:47.000 I follow him.

01:13:47.000 He doesn't have any tattoos.

01:13:48.000 I follow him on Twitter.

01:13:49.000 He would.

01:13:50.000 Trust me.

01:13:50.000 He's a wild boy.

01:13:51.000 Did you see when he showed up?

01:13:53.000 He showed up at the UFC even though he was banned.

01:13:55.000 He showed up and they arrested him?

01:13:57.000 Yeah.

01:14:00.000 They kicked him out.

01:14:01.000 He's the world champion.

01:14:04.000 There's a UFC event at the White House.

01:14:06.000 At the time, before Justin won, he was the only American world champion.

01:14:12.000 And they're like, you can't come.

01:14:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:14:13.000 Because you talk too much shit about Israel. 1.00

01:14:16.000 He's a wild boy. 1.00

01:14:17.000 But that's wild that your criticism about Israel is what keeps you from going to the White House as a world champion in world title fights.

01:14:28.000 At the White House.

01:14:30.000 Yeah.

01:14:30.000 Like you would think you would want to celebrate the American male world champion.

01:14:34.000 I think he said some other stuff too, though.

01:14:36.000 Yeah.

01:14:37.000 There's some Epstein stuff there.

01:14:38.000 Yeah.

01:14:39.000 He's a wild boy.

01:14:40.000 Yeah.

01:14:41.000 I think he's.

01:14:42.000 I told him when he retires from fighting, he 100% should do a podcast.

01:14:46.000 And he was like, I, you know, I've seen these guys doing these streamers.

01:14:50.000 And like, I go, you don't have to do that.

01:14:52.000 You don't have to do it that way.

01:14:54.000 He's like, I couldn't do that.

01:14:55.000 Just sit there every day and talk to people for hours. 1.00

01:14:57.000 I'd lose my fucking mind. 1.00

01:14:59.000 I'm like, right, but you don't have to do that. 0.99

01:15:01.000 Just your opinions on things.

01:15:02.000 So he's an awesome podcast guest.

01:15:04.000 You know, I'm like, he could totally, totally do that.

01:15:08.000 Just talk about stuff.

01:15:09.000 And also, Sean, when he lets the whole shtick down and just gives you his opinions on things, very smart guy. 0.60

01:15:18.000 He's not stupid at all. 0.84

01:15:20.000 And he would get better at it as he did it more. 0.98

01:15:23.000 He easily could do a podcast. 0.99

01:15:27.000 Yeah, he's entertaining as fuck. 0.99

01:15:28.000 I just can't believe they kicked him out of the White House. 0.99

01:15:31.000 They kicked him out of the ellipse, that area.

01:15:34.000 I think there's a video of it.

01:15:35.000 See if you can find the video of it.

01:15:37.000 Sorry, guys. 0.98

01:15:38.000 They got like fucking six cops, a bulletproof vest. 0.98

01:15:41.000 Yeah, I think there were like 85,000 people there. 0.99

01:15:44.000 So it's funny that they're like, that one, the champion.

01:15:48.000 It's just, he wasn't supposed to be there.

01:15:49.000 He's banned.

01:15:50.000 He was not invited or whatever.

01:15:52.000 But even if you're not invited, shouldn't you be able to go to the fan area if you're the world champion?

01:15:57.000 If you want to be that wild with no security, and there's video of him from the first night, from the night of the weigh ins, where they found out that he was there, it's amazing.

01:16:05.000 Because he was wearing a hoodie the entire time, and someone told him he's got to take off the hoodie, and he's like, I can't listen.

01:16:12.000 It's going to be a problem. 0.98

01:16:13.000 And as soon as he takes off the hoodie, everybody goes, that's fucking Sean Strickland. 0.98

01:16:17.000 And then he's just surrounded by bros. 0.99

01:16:20.000 Hilarious.

01:16:21.000 Just getting hugged to death.

01:16:23.000 He asked some dude, some dude asked him to leg kick him.

01:16:26.000 So Sean leg kicks some kid. 0.98

01:16:29.000 Crazy. 1.00

01:16:30.000 World champion fucking kicking some kid. 1.00

01:16:33.000 What is this world coming to? 1.00

01:16:36.000 There's starting to be some.

01:16:38.000 It's him.

01:16:39.000 Is there audio?

01:16:52.000 This is crazy.

01:16:54.000 I like that we have some entertaining American.

01:16:57.000 Oh, he's the most entertaining.

01:16:59.000 That Josh Hockett.

01:17:01.000 Hockett?

01:17:02.000 Yeah.

01:17:02.000 Hockett.

01:17:03.000 My God.

01:17:04.000 He is.

01:17:04.000 That was what was hilarious.

01:17:06.000 People were so upset that he said Michelle Obama's a man at the White House.

01:17:12.000 It's like, that's what he's doing.

01:17:13.000 He's doing that on purpose.

01:17:15.000 He's literally wearing an American flag bandana.

01:17:17.000 He comes out to a Hulk Hogan song.

01:17:20.000 He's wearing sunglasses.

01:17:22.000 Yeah, it's not appropriate.

01:17:23.000 You're right.

01:17:24.000 Right.

01:17:24.000 Yep.

01:17:25.000 But he said the exact same thing when I interviewed him somewhere else.

01:17:29.000 Yeah.

01:17:30.000 He said, I'm pretty sure he said Michelle Obama's a man like last time I interviewed him.

01:17:34.000 That's what I heard.

01:17:35.000 It's not his first rodeo at the show.

01:17:37.000 Michelle Obama is a man.

01:17:38.000 That's how he ends his interviews.

01:17:42.000 Hilarious.

01:17:42.000 He's trying to get people to talk about him.

01:17:44.000 Yep.

01:17:45.000 You know, the whole thing is so crazy.

01:17:47.000 But all of it would be nothing if he couldn't fight.

01:17:52.000 Exactly.

01:17:53.000 That's where it's real exciting the pre fight.

01:17:57.000 I mean, the post fight interview, pretty polarizing, obviously, because that was the news.

01:18:02.000 But if you, for the real fans paying attention, you didn't get to see him do that.

01:18:07.000 Did I send it to you?

01:18:08.000 The kill Tony minute that he did at the press conference?

01:18:11.000 Oh my God.

01:18:12.000 So funny because he's like purposefully bombing.

01:18:15.000 So he's literally doing a joke.

01:18:17.000 He says, You guys know Tony Hinchcliffe? 0.74

01:18:19.000 I'm going to do my kill Tony minute. 0.72

01:18:20.000 And he's purposefully like bombing. 0.64

01:18:22.000 It's corny, purposeful, bad jokes.

01:18:24.000 And he's going, Man, tough crowd.

01:18:26.000 All right, let me try this one.

01:18:28.000 And it's like he's literally being hilarious by strategically trying to be funny, but not being funny.

01:18:37.000 You could tell that he was planning on nobody laughing, but that it's set up punch. 0.98

01:18:42.000 And he's just fucking trying to entertain. 0.99

01:18:46.000 He's trolling. 1.00

01:18:48.000 He's trolling.

01:18:49.000 He's getting attention.

01:18:50.000 And then the most important thing, he can fight.

01:18:53.000 That dude's good.

01:18:53.000 Yeah.

01:18:54.000 He's fucking good, man. 1.00

01:18:56.000 He's fast as shit. 1.00

01:18:57.000 For a heavyweight, he's very light on his feet, fast as shit, fast hands. 0.99

01:19:02.000 Yeah, so fun to watch. 0.99

01:19:03.000 And, you know, what's interesting is he talked a lot of shit about Alex Pereira. 1.00

01:19:09.000 And, you know, I want a shaman on your mama or all that crazy shit. 1.00

01:19:13.000 Pereira losing to Cyril Gantt. 0.99

01:19:16.000 If Pereira decides to fight again, I don't know if he's going to fight again.

01:19:19.000 He might be done.

01:19:20.000 I think he said he might be done.

01:19:22.000 But I mean, a lot of fighters say that after a fight and especially after a loss.

01:19:26.000 Let them sit around for a while.

01:19:26.000 Yeah.

01:19:27.000 Then they come up with.

01:19:28.000 He's not done. 0.98

01:19:29.000 They back up the Brinks truck.

01:19:31.000 He had him versus Josh Hoket.

01:19:33.000 Oh, my God. 0.99

01:19:35.000 As a co main event on a fucking banging New Year's Eve card. 0.99

01:19:39.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:19:39.000 Let's go. 0.99

01:19:40.000 Hoket will be making fun of his headdress and his face makeup.

01:19:44.000 Oh, it'd be insane. 0.95

01:19:45.000 It would be insane.

01:19:46.000 But, you know, the thing is, Hoket's got to deal with that guy.

01:19:49.000 That's a different guy.

01:19:50.000 That's not Derek Lewis.

01:19:52.000 I mean, if he continues to fight heavyweight, it is interesting watching a guy who's been so dominant at 85 and at 205 with all that extra weight on.

01:20:03.000 I don't know if that necessarily was the right move.

01:20:07.000 You know, I mean, I think like some weight is probably good, but maybe even 20 pounds lighter, like maybe 230 something.

01:20:14.000 Maybe that would be a better weight if he really wants to fight at heavyweight because it seems like he was carrying.

01:20:18.000 I mean, just you ever work out with a weight vest on?

01:20:21.000 Yeah.

01:20:22.000 Yeah.

01:20:22.000 It's crazy.

01:20:23.000 Like a 25 pound weight vest.

01:20:25.000 It's nuts how much harder everything is.

01:20:27.000 So you got to realize he had fought at 185 and he fought at 205.

01:20:31.000 That was what he weighed in at.

01:20:33.000 But let's.

01:20:34.000 Be honest, at 185, I think he probably weighed 220 something, 226, I think it was, fight night, which is nuts.

01:20:43.000 It's 40 pounds difference.

01:20:44.000 And at 205, he probably got into the 230s, like 235, 236, something like that.

01:20:51.000 But still was not, didn't look like he looked at 251.

01:20:55.000 251, he looked like he was carrying unnecessary weight, a little bit of it at least.

01:21:01.000 And if he was just like 20 pounds lighter, he would still have that speed and movement, but he's always had crazy knockout power.

01:21:09.000 It might be a better weight for it.

01:21:11.000 It just seemed like it was a lot of weight he had on him, you know? 1.00

01:21:14.000 And it all went to his ass. 1.00

01:21:16.000 His ass was giant. 1.00

01:21:17.000 Fat ass. 1.00

01:21:18.000 Big fat ass. 1.00

01:21:18.000 You know me. 1.00

01:21:19.000 You know that's all I'm looking at.

01:21:21.000 That's why I watch UFC.

01:21:23.000 And yeah, it was all there.

01:21:25.000 It was like a backpack.

01:21:26.000 Well, that's where all the power comes from. 0.99

01:21:28.000 You know, when you're pushing off your feet and you're pushing off those fucking quads and pushing into those glutes and then torquing that body the way he does. 0.99

01:21:37.000 Ferocious power, dude. 0.99

01:21:38.000 But damn, that Cyril Gon's good. 0.99

01:21:40.000 Woo! 1.00

01:21:41.000 Yeah.

01:21:42.000 Yeah, creepy.

01:21:42.000 Woo!

01:21:43.000 He's so good, dude.

01:21:44.000 And he's in his prime right now.

01:21:45.000 Cyril Gon is like really coming into his own.

01:21:48.000 There's no heavyweight like him.

01:21:50.000 Yeah, I was going to say, extremely accurate for a heavyweight.

01:21:50.000 No one moves like him.

01:21:54.000 Not just accurate, agile.

01:21:56.000 Because we were talking about this the other day that basketball is a great place to start if you're a big athlete and you want to learn combat sports, especially striking.

01:22:05.000 Because think about how many direction changes basketball players take, where they're always kind of doing that.

01:22:11.000 They're always spinning and moving.

01:22:12.000 It's a series of plyometrics, it's a series of hops and jumps, like Jordan's jump.

01:22:18.000 Imagine if Jordan had a flying knee.

01:22:20.000 Right.

01:22:21.000 Right?

01:22:21.000 He's hitting you with a flying knee from 14 feet away.

01:22:25.000 Yeah.

01:22:25.000 What do you got?

01:22:26.000 Nice.

01:22:28.000 Basketball.

01:22:29.000 What's that?

01:22:30.000 It's interesting because.

01:22:32.000 Oh, Cyril Gunn's a.

01:22:33.000 So he started out playing basketball.

01:22:33.000 Yeah.

01:22:36.000 At least where I come from, basketball season and wrestling season are at the same time.

01:22:42.000 So I wonder what he was doing back then.

01:22:44.000 Well, he's in France, right?

01:22:45.000 So France does not have wrestling in their high school or in their college.

01:22:49.000 You know, and he learned wrestling after he had become a really elite world class Muay Thai fighter.

01:22:56.000 So he's got.

01:22:58.000 The grappling has come up in big ways.

01:23:00.000 Like, his grappling's much better than it used to be.

01:23:03.000 But really, primarily, he's a striker.

01:23:05.000 And when John fought him, like, John just got him to the ground and submitted him, like, quickly.

01:23:10.000 It's like the difference.

01:23:11.000 I think that fight was kind of a big ass wake up call.

01:23:14.000 And Francis beat him, too.

01:23:15.000 So Francis beat him by just.

01:23:18.000 Francis just got a hold of him.

01:23:19.000 And most of the fight was on the ground, a giant chunk of it, because Francis fought that fight with a blown out ACL.

01:23:26.000 Wow.

01:23:27.000 Defended his world title with a blown out ACL.

01:23:30.000 Crazy. 0.99

01:23:30.000 Had big ass knee pads on. 0.99

01:23:32.000 Oof. 1.00

01:23:33.000 Wobbly ass knee, but that's how dangerous Francis is. 1.00

01:23:33.000 I know. 1.00

01:23:35.000 Yeah.

01:23:36.000 He could just win it with grappling.

01:23:39.000 It's a shame that he's not in the UFC.

01:23:41.000 It's a real shame.

01:23:42.000 Yeah.

01:23:42.000 Because, like, that whole thing was what drove everyone crazy about boxing, you know?

01:23:49.000 That it was really hard to get these guys together, you know?

01:23:52.000 And this was the whole idea why everybody was excited about what Riyadh season was doing and Turkey Al-Asheikh and, you know, all those.

01:24:00.000 People that put together these big ass fights like Tyson Fury and Alexander Usic, and the last one they just did, Rico Verhoeven and Usic.

01:24:09.000 Like, they're putting together these big, crazy fights. 0.80

01:24:12.000 Like, that was the thing that drove everybody nuts about boxing.

01:24:15.000 And that's what drives everybody nuts about MMA.

01:24:18.000 The one thing is it's the heavyweight division.

01:24:20.000 The fact that the best heavyweight, or at least the guy who was the lineal heavyweight champion of the world, isn't even fighting for the UFC.

01:24:27.000 That's crazy.

01:24:29.000 It's crazy.

01:24:29.000 Yeah.

01:24:30.000 Who knows?

01:24:31.000 Maybe one day, right?

01:24:32.000 Nope.

01:24:33.000 I tried to make it happen.

01:24:33.000 No.

01:24:33.000 I don't think so.

01:24:34.000 Damn. 1.00

01:24:35.000 I think we need to get those dudes together. 1.00

01:24:37.000 Look at that.

01:24:37.000 Look at Cyril Gahn dunking.

01:24:40.000 That's crazy.

01:24:41.000 I know.

01:24:42.000 See, that kind of ability to throw your body around like that is so huge as a striker.

01:24:47.000 Because a lot of those guys are plotting.

01:24:49.000 You know, they're plotters.

01:24:50.000 They just kind of like wobble through.

01:24:52.000 I think what they need to do is get Francis and the UFC together.

01:24:56.000 They all do mushrooms.

01:24:57.000 Yeah.

01:24:57.000 Just like make friends.

01:24:59.000 Because he doesn't have much time left.

01:24:59.000 Yeah.

01:25:01.000 I think Francis is 38.

01:25:03.000 Is that how old he is?

01:25:06.000 I think he's 38, which is different as a heavyweight.

01:25:09.000 Heavyweights have.

01:25:10.000 He turns 40 in September.

01:25:12.000 Whoa.

01:25:13.000 Not much time left.

01:25:14.000 Right.

01:25:15.000 40 you can do, but unless you're Bernard Hopkins fighting at a world class level in your 40s, kind of unheard of.

01:25:22.000 I remember when Bernard Hopkins fought Kelly Pavlik, a lot of people did not think that he had a chance.

01:25:30.000 Oh, yeah, I remember it very clearly. 0.88

01:25:32.000 And he outboxed the fuck out of Kelly Pavlik. 0.91

01:25:34.000 He looks so good. 0.99

01:25:35.000 Truly the executioner.

01:25:37.000 I want to say he was in his 40s when that happened.

01:25:40.000 I think so.

01:25:41.000 How old was Bernard Hopkins when he fought Kelly Pavlik?

01:25:46.000 He fought at a world class level until he was 50 years old.

01:25:48.000 Yeah.

01:25:49.000 It's nuts.

01:25:50.000 We were all watching that one, everybody from Youngstown going.

01:25:50.000 Yeah.

01:25:50.000 Nuts.

01:25:54.000 All right, this is it.

01:25:55.000 We're going to get back on the right path because it was after his loss to Margarito.

01:26:00.000 Is that right?

01:26:02.000 Who's the guy that got caught with the cement in his gloves against the one guy?

01:26:06.000 Antonio Margarito, I do believe.

01:26:09.000 Wow.

01:26:09.000 43.

01:26:11.000 He was 43 years old.

01:26:12.000 Wow. 0.88

01:26:13.000 Crazy. 0.97

01:26:14.000 Against a 26 year old. 1.00

01:26:16.000 Crazy.

01:26:17.000 Especially at 170 pounds.

01:26:19.000 Like, nobody thinks at that weight that you can be competitive at a world class level into your 40s.

01:26:28.000 Most of the time, like, people just write you off on the number.

01:26:31.000 They don't even care what you look like.

01:26:31.000 Yeah.

01:26:32.000 Like, he's not going to be able to do it.

01:26:34.000 Was he the first one to beat Kelly?

01:26:35.000 Is that what I just saw?

01:26:37.000 Wow. 1.00

01:26:38.000 So he lost to him, and that's where shit started to get fucked up. 1.00

01:26:38.000 Okay. 1.00

01:26:43.000 Because then he went on a bad run after that.

01:26:46.000 Well, when you got beat up like that, it's just tough on the brain, dude.

01:26:50.000 There's only so many of them fights that you could take where you get really beat up like that, but not put it on them.

01:26:57.000 You know, there's been a bunch of fights where a fighter got beat up really badly, and then they were never the same again.

01:27:03.000 Meldrick Taylor versus Julio Cesar Chavez.

01:27:05.000 That's a great example.

01:27:07.000 Chavez just put it on him and dropped him in the final moments of the round, and then Richard Steele stopped it, and it was like this crazy fucking controversy because he stopped the fight with like one second to go in a fight that Meldrick was ahead on the scorecards.

01:27:22.000 But the real story of that fight was that the damage that Chavez had put on Meldrick was never the same again.

01:27:32.000 Pablo actually won his next two fights and then had a bad staph infection problem.

01:27:36.000 Oh, wow.

01:27:37.000 So after he beat Sergio, so he was set to fight Paul Williams, but to major staph infection and allergic reaction to some antibiotics nearly killed him.

01:27:48.000 Whoa.

01:27:49.000 He eventually was able to fight again against light middleweight champion Sergio Martinez.

01:27:53.000 Oh, Sergio Martinez.

01:27:57.000 He beat him.

01:27:58.000 Martinez beat him.

01:28:02.000 Yeah, unanimous 12 round decision. 1.00

01:28:05.000 Sergio Martinez was a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:28:07.000 Yes, he was. 1.00

01:28:10.000 Yeah.

01:28:12.000 In late rounds, Martinez came up.

01:28:14.000 Yeah, it's just a crazy sport, man.

01:28:16.000 You only have so many wars in you.

01:28:18.000 There's only so many times you could do that.

01:28:20.000 And the really clever guys are the guys who just don't get hit much.

01:28:24.000 I went down a Madonna rabbit hole recently.

01:28:27.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

01:28:28.000 That fucking guy's a freak. 1.00

01:28:30.000 Oh, he's an animal. 1.00

01:28:31.000 What a career.

01:28:32.000 He was an animal. 0.95

01:28:33.000 Unbelievable. 0.89

01:28:34.000 He fought everybody.

01:28:36.000 He was one of the few guys to really rock Floyd May with him.

01:28:38.000 Yeah.

01:28:39.000 Knocked his tooth out and wore his tooth around a chain.

01:28:41.000 Oh, I love that.

01:28:43.000 He got Floyd's tooth and wore it as a piece of.

01:28:43.000 Yeah.

01:28:47.000 See if you can find the tooth that my Donna had of Floyd. 0.97

01:28:50.000 Look at that. 0.86

01:28:52.000 Oh my God.

01:28:53.000 That is so cool.

01:28:54.000 How hilarious is that?

01:28:56.000 That's so funny. 1.00

01:28:57.000 He had his tooth put on a fucking necklace. 1.00

01:29:02.000 Wow. 1.00

01:29:04.000 That's crazy. 1.00

01:29:05.000 Bro, what a square jawed motherfucker that guy is, huh? 1.00

01:29:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:29:09.000 Look at that jaw. 0.86

01:29:10.000 That guy looks like he could hit him with a baseball bat.

01:29:12.000 He was a tough dude.

01:29:13.000 Insane career.

01:29:14.000 I think he fought everybody.

01:29:16.000 The Broner fight, too.

01:29:17.000 He dropped Broner.

01:29:18.000 That was when Broner was in his prime.

01:29:21.000 Yeah, he was a beast. 1.00

01:29:23.000 It's a hard ass fucking sport. 1.00

01:29:26.000 Any combat sport is a hard way to make a living. 0.99

01:29:31.000 Profitable.

01:29:31.000 Do you see all the stuff that's going on with Floyd?

01:29:34.000 Yeah, I can't wrap my head around it.

01:29:36.000 I don't understand how someone makes that much money and doesn't pay taxes or whatever.

01:29:42.000 Yeah, well, I could tell you how.

01:29:44.000 You run out of money.

01:29:45.000 You know, you spend so much money on things.

01:29:45.000 Yeah.

01:29:49.000 Do you think he has a business manager?

01:29:52.000 Maybe he wasn't looking out for his best interest.

01:29:54.000 I mean, just, you gotta put somebody in charge of that amount of money.

01:30:01.000 You would think, you would think $750 million would last you a while.

01:30:05.000 Yeah.

01:30:06.000 I mean, it's not even 50.

01:30:07.000 You give one guy 5%.

01:30:09.000 How old is Floyd now?

01:30:13.000 I know.

01:30:13.000 Yeah, put some away.

01:30:14.000 But the thing is, it's like that lifestyle, his lifestyle was all about showing you his wealth.

01:30:20.000 His lifestyle, he's 49.

01:30:24.000 Imagine making $750 million and you're 49, you're broke.

01:30:29.000 Oh, God.

01:30:30.000 That's crazy.

01:30:31.000 But Tyson talks openly about how he spent hundreds of millions of dollars.

01:30:35.000 Just went through it.

01:30:36.000 You know, if you're living that life where you're just wearing diamonds everywhere and you're buying crazy watches, and, you know, Floyd does these things.

01:30:44.000 You ever seen him where he'll go into a hotel room when he's traveling and he talks about, like, the watches that he brought?

01:30:50.000 And so he opens up suitcases with millions of dollars in watches.

01:30:55.000 He just opens suitcases.

01:30:56.000 You ever seen these?

01:30:57.000 Find them because they're kind of hilarious.

01:31:00.000 He's just trying to figure out which one he wants to wear.

01:31:02.000 He brings them all with him.

01:31:03.000 Yeah, it's just showing off.

01:31:05.000 And you're showing off that he's got two suitcases filled with diamond encrusted Patek Philippe's and, you know, the most high end of watches.

01:31:15.000 Look at this.

01:31:17.000 Do you have the clip?

01:31:19.000 Here it is.

01:31:20.000 Put some volume on this.

01:31:21.000 Look at this. 0.97

01:31:22.000 I'm always in my fucking business worried about what I'm doing, what Floyd is doing, what Floyd ain't doing, what I do got, what I don't got. 0.98

01:31:30.000 Just know I'm gonna stay in my lane. 0.99

01:31:32.000 I ain't gonna fuck with nobody, and I don't want nobody fucking with me. 0.99

01:31:35.000 If I go on vacation, my fault. 0.99

01:31:37.000 When I go on vacation for 30 days, I take 30 watches with me.

01:31:46.000 Look at this, dude.

01:31:47.000 You know what?

01:31:47.000 But you know what?

01:31:49.000 What's crazy is this.

01:31:50.000 If we add 10 more days, I take 10 more watches. 1.00

01:31:56.000 But then I say, fuck it. 0.99

01:31:58.000 If I want to bring out the one and only, then I bring out the watch that costs 18 million. 1.00

01:32:02.000 Oh, Jesus. 0.99

01:32:04.000 Matter of fact, you know what I'm gonna do for you motherfucking hedges today? 1.00

01:32:08.000 I'm gonna go fuck off $50,000 because I ain't got shit else to do. 1.00

01:32:12.000 Money made all motherfucking day. 1.00

01:32:15.000 You know what's crazy? 0.99

01:32:16.000 That's the problem.

01:32:17.000 So that you can only do for so long.

01:32:20.000 Yeah.

01:32:21.000 So if you have one $18 million watch, like, okay, let's not get crazy.

01:32:26.000 Let's not get crazy.

01:32:27.000 You wanted to get it, you got it.

01:32:29.000 You have $750 million.

01:32:30.000 You have one $18 million watch.

01:32:32.000 You can't have 18 watches.

01:32:37.000 That costs millions of dollars.

01:32:39.000 Like, because you're going to need more.

01:32:40.000 You're going to keep wanting to buy more.

01:32:42.000 You're going to run out of money.

01:32:44.000 How many Rolls Royces do you have?

01:32:46.000 Okay, each one of those is a half a million dollars.

01:32:48.000 You have four or five of them?

01:32:50.000 Hmm.

01:32:51.000 How many Ferraris?

01:32:52.000 You got 10 Ferraris.

01:32:53.000 Okay, what?

01:32:55.000 Some of those Ferraris are almost a million dollars.

01:32:57.000 You have 10 almost a million dollar cars.

01:33:00.000 Okay, so just in watches and cars alone, we're looking at 50, 60 million.

01:33:06.000 Okay, and then you have to make 120 plus to actually have 60.

01:33:11.000 I don't know if he's leasing them, I don't know how he's financing things, I don't know.

01:33:14.000 But I'd love to know.

01:33:16.000 You make that money back by.

01:33:19.000 He can make the money that he needs back by literally making a super documentary about how he spent it.

01:33:25.000 You ever seen that 30 for 30 broke about how the NFL players all spent their money?

01:33:29.000 No.

01:33:30.000 Well, it's unbelievable.

01:33:31.000 One of the easiest watches ever.

01:33:34.000 And, like, it's got to be 30 for 30's biggest production ever.

01:33:40.000 Like, it's everywhere, it's just huge.

01:33:44.000 And, yeah, who the hell doesn't want to know about that?

01:33:47.000 Right.

01:33:48.000 And I'm waiting on that Nicolas Cage doc that probably nobody's making either, where it's like, Because he's a different version of that.

01:33:55.000 You know about this.

01:33:56.000 He went broke?

01:33:56.000 Oh, yeah.

01:33:58.000 But then he made it back again.

01:33:59.000 Well, yeah, he works his ass off.

01:34:01.000 So he went on a terror.

01:34:04.000 He's just making movies left and right.

01:34:06.000 And, yeah.

01:34:10.000 He faced severe financial struggles in the late 2000s, going from $150 million fortune to being $6 million in debt.

01:34:16.000 Whoa.

01:34:17.000 He never officially filed for bankruptcy, but he cleared his debts by relentlessly taking on movie roles.

01:34:23.000 Including direct to video films and selling off extensive real estate and assets.

01:34:28.000 I guess he bought like a lot of T Rex skulls.

01:34:30.000 Like he spent his money on like crazy things.

01:34:32.000 He didn't just go watches and cars.

01:34:35.000 He would find crazy pieces of art and like old historical things, I think.

01:34:41.000 Well, he was a movie star from way back.

01:34:45.000 You got to realize like what was his first film?

01:34:47.000 I think his first film was like 1980 or something.

01:34:50.000 Yeah.

01:34:50.000 I remember him being a movie star when I was in high school.

01:34:53.000 Yeah.

01:34:53.000 That's a lot of time of being in that bizarro.

01:34:57.000 Hollywood bubble getting your brain cooked by fame.

01:35:01.000 Yeah.

01:35:01.000 He's one of those, you can watch him do anything.

01:35:04.000 Like one of those freaks where even though people will say, I don't like this Nicolas Cage thing, I don't like that.

01:35:12.000 From an article about what he spent his money on $455,000 for two snakes.

01:35:20.000 Okay.

01:35:21.000 So it was $276,000 in 2005, the equivalent of $455,000 today.

01:35:27.000 Thanks, inflation.

01:35:29.000 How crazy is that?

01:35:32.000 Think about that.

01:35:33.000 $275,000 in 2005 is $455,000 today. 0.99

01:35:37.000 Damn. 0.98

01:35:37.000 How fun is inflation? 0.98

01:35:39.000 Wow.

01:35:41.000 What was Nicolas Cage's first movie?

01:35:45.000 Officially?

01:35:46.000 Yeah.

01:35:46.000 He was in a few things unofficially.

01:35:48.000 Just that crazy movie with him and.

01:35:51.000 Raising Arizona to be the first big hit, right?

01:35:54.000 That was a big one.

01:35:55.000 That was a big one.

01:35:59.000 His new ones are good, too.

01:36:01.000 These wacky ones.

01:36:01.000 This filmography, if you go all the way back.

01:36:04.000 1982.

01:36:05.000 Fast times at Ridgemont High.

01:36:07.000 Is Nicholas Coppola.

01:36:08.000 Valley Girl is what I was thinking of.

01:36:09.000 That was in 83.

01:36:12.000 Yeah.

01:36:13.000 Credit is Nicholas Coppola.

01:36:14.000 That's before he changed his name because he didn't want to be connected to, what is his uncle?

01:36:19.000 Francis Ford Coppola?

01:36:20.000 Is that what it is?

01:36:20.000 Yeah.

01:36:22.000 Valley Girl.

01:36:23.000 So Valley Girl was 83.

01:36:24.000 So I was in high school, dude.

01:36:25.000 Raising Arizona.

01:36:26.000 Peggy Sue got married.

01:36:27.000 Those are big, too.

01:36:28.000 Big.

01:36:28.000 Those are huge movies, dude.

01:36:30.000 Raising Arizona is so fucking funny. 0.90

01:36:33.000 I saw that like a year ago. 0.97

01:36:35.000 I forgot how funny it was.

01:36:37.000 Remember, Tex Cobb was in there, the boxer with the flattened nose who fought Larry Holmes?

01:36:43.000 He did a bunch of movies.

01:36:44.000 The big white guy? 1.00

01:36:45.000 Yeah, big fucking corn fed white guy. 1.00

01:36:47.000 He's on a motorcycle. 1.00

01:36:48.000 Yeah.

01:36:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:36:50.000 He's great.

01:36:51.000 It's a Coen Brothers movie, right?

01:36:52.000 Raising Arizona is.

01:36:56.000 Those guys might be the goats.

01:36:57.000 They might be the goats of comedy.

01:36:58.000 They're in the Farrelly Brothers.

01:37:00.000 Yep.

01:37:01.000 No doubt. 1.00

01:37:01.000 How many amazing, hilarious fucking movies. 1.00

01:37:04.000 And the Coen Brothers were always so out there. 0.99

01:37:06.000 Everything's so out there. 0.99

01:37:09.000 Some of their films are just like, what the fuck are you guys doing? 0.99

01:37:12.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:37:13.000 Like Kingpin, Farrelly Brothers?

01:37:15.000 Those guys too.

01:37:15.000 Yes.

01:37:16.000 Without a doubt. 1.00

01:37:17.000 Fuck, that was good. 1.00

01:37:18.000 Unbelievable. 1.00

01:37:19.000 Fuck, that's a funny movie. 1.00

01:37:21.000 So fucking great. 1.00

01:37:22.000 So funny. 1.00

01:37:23.000 The scene where he's throwing up in the toilet when she's talking about him eating her pussy to pay his rent. 1.00

01:37:29.000 Oh my God. 1.00

01:37:31.000 Oh.

01:37:32.000 Woody's range is incredible.

01:37:34.000 You know what I heard about that movie?

01:37:36.000 That they had primed all the actors to get really excited when Bill Murray throws three strikes because he had to throw three strikes in a row.

01:37:44.000 And so they said, this might take a while, so we're going to really need your enthusiasm.

01:37:48.000 And then Bill Murray actually threw.

01:37:50.000 Three strikes in a row, first attempt, and everybody went crazy, like for real.

01:37:56.000 Because they were, you know, like they were said, this is not going to happen this way. 0.98

01:37:59.000 So when he actually did it, everybody went fucking bananas. 0.99

01:38:03.000 Nuts. 1.00

01:38:04.000 Fuck, such a good movie. 1.00

01:38:05.000 I love it. 1.00

01:38:06.000 Dude, Woody's a freak, bro.

01:38:08.000 Since he's moved here and goes to kill Tony and like we hang out and stuff, only after like being making friends with him, like I knew he did a lot of great stuff, but he sneaks up and So many great things. 0.84

01:38:26.000 It's insane. 0.97

01:38:27.000 He's in fucking, what is the Coen Brothers one with Not There Will Be Blood? 0.99

01:38:32.000 It was made at the same time with Javier Bardem. 0.99

01:38:35.000 Oh my God, how am I blanking on this? 0.86

01:38:37.000 It's No Country for Old Men. 1.00

01:38:40.000 Oh, that's right. 1.00

01:38:41.000 He's in it.

01:38:42.000 And he's not even, they don't even like promote him on that or anything. 0.98

01:38:45.000 He just comes in the movie halfway through with all these other fucking greats and is crushing. 0.95

01:38:52.000 It's hard to think that that's a Coen Brothers movie. 0.99

01:38:54.000 The people versus Larry Flint.

01:38:56.000 He's a freak of nature.

01:38:59.000 Was that thing that you sent me the other day with him when he was playing LBJ?

01:39:02.000 Oh my God, it's so good.

01:39:04.000 I randomly stumbled across that one.

01:39:06.000 I'm like, oh, I'll fall asleep to this.

01:39:07.000 Woody is LBJ. 0.98

01:39:08.000 And it's one of those movies that fucking kept me awake because it was so goddamn good. 0.99

01:39:14.000 Mesmerizing. 0.98

01:39:15.000 Super nice guy, too.

01:39:16.000 Like, easy to hang out with.

01:39:17.000 Oh my God, the best.

01:39:19.000 Very chill with everybody.

01:39:20.000 Just hangs out.

01:39:21.000 When he's in the green room, he's just like one of us.

01:39:23.000 Yeah.

01:39:24.000 Normal.

01:39:24.000 Yeah.

01:39:25.000 You know, it's just hard to do.

01:39:26.000 When you've been famous that long, just be cool.

01:39:29.000 Yeah.

01:39:30.000 But also, he doesn't have a phone.

01:39:31.000 You get a hold of him, you got to go through his wife to get a hold of him.

01:39:34.000 He's smart.

01:39:35.000 Just insulates himself from all the nonsense.

01:39:37.000 Brilliant.

01:39:38.000 That's the way to do it.

01:39:39.000 Yeah, but I think when you get to that level, you kind of have to or you'll go crazy.

01:39:43.000 Yeah.

01:39:44.000 You know?

01:39:45.000 Yeah.

01:39:46.000 He likes laughing, sipping his tequila, smoking his weed.

01:39:46.000 He has his fun.

01:39:52.000 He's got it all figured out.

01:39:53.000 Grows his own weed.

01:39:55.000 Makes his own tequila, eats live food or whatever, and just laughs and enjoys life.

01:40:02.000 It's perfect.

01:40:04.000 Yeah, it's nice to know that people can make it through that crazy maze.

01:40:08.000 And, you know, you could either go nuts and buy Tyrannosaurus Rex calls, or you could just completely disconnect from it all and just be yourself. 0.69

01:40:16.000 Just keep killing it.

01:40:19.000 I know him and McConaughey have a TV show that's coming out where they play brothers, right?

01:40:24.000 Yeah.

01:40:25.000 I think it's on Apple TV coming out soon.

01:40:28.000 Yeah.

01:40:32.000 Yeah.

01:40:33.000 So, what's it been like?

01:40:35.000 Like the weirdness, the post roast weirdness.

01:40:40.000 I'm always surprised by these things.

01:40:42.000 I'm always surprised that they last so long that anybody's talking about it.

01:40:49.000 It's so bizarre. 1.00

01:40:51.000 I was surprised with the Pang Dang thing. 0.91

01:40:55.000 I was surprised at the Trump thing. 0.51

01:40:57.000 And this one is really surprising because with other ones, they're like, ah, there's a time and a place for jokes like that or this or that or whatever.

01:41:07.000 And this is the time and the place for it is like the roast of Kevin Hart.

01:41:11.000 You know, I'm going to go for it.

01:41:13.000 Yeah.

01:41:14.000 And we roasted Kevin.

01:41:16.000 You know, I did a. 0.99

01:41:17.000 Fucking George Floyd joke in the Tom Brady roast. 0.98

01:41:23.000 And I did a. 1.00

01:41:24.000 Who's the white guy that shot people?

01:41:29.000 It's the same fan base as. 1.00

01:41:32.000 God damn it. 1.00

01:41:33.000 The kid that shot people up in wherever. 1.00

01:41:37.000 Be a little more specific.

01:41:38.000 A few times.

01:41:39.000 The white guy shot a couple people, had a gun at a thing. 0.98

01:41:42.000 They made it look like it was black people, but it was actually white people that he shot that were shooting at him or had guns. 0.96

01:41:49.000 What's his name? 0.72

01:41:49.000 Has the. 0.72

01:41:50.000 I have no idea who you're talking about.

01:41:52.000 David Lucas is friends with him, brought him to the pub.

01:41:54.000 Oh, Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:41:55.000 That's it.

01:41:56.000 I did a Kyle Rittenhouse joke.

01:41:58.000 I did this.

01:41:59.000 And then this one, people are offended or something.

01:42:02.000 I don't know.

01:42:03.000 And yeah, if you just watch that clip on my dismount, it's a crazy clip.

01:42:07.000 But if you watch the entire flow of the roast set, it's just one last departing joke, which that's my thing, man.

01:42:15.000 It's like I knew Earthquake would be standing up on his feet like he was halfway through my set, you know.

01:42:22.000 You know, there's standing O's that are happening during my actual roast.

01:42:27.000 And on this one, because there were so many people on it, it was such a long, big roast, you know, they set you to an allotted time.

01:42:34.000 So I'm like, okay, I'm going to do something I don't normally do and blast off more jokes per minute than I normally do.

01:42:41.000 Instead of milking it and getting applause breaks and things like that, I'm just going to create a bang, final stand of things.

01:42:50.000 And you know what's funny is that I have something that's supposed to offend everybody.

01:42:55.000 Like, I don't want you to like 100% of any of my jokes.

01:43:00.000 I'm not that guy. 0.99

01:43:01.000 I'm heelish.

01:43:03.000 I'm a bad guy wrestling fan.

01:43:05.000 Exactly.

01:43:06.000 So, what's funny is people got offended about the George Floyd thing, and a lot of people said, Yeah, well, P. Davidson did a Charlie Kirk joke.

01:43:15.000 And they're comparing these things from two different spectrums.

01:43:18.000 But what they didn't mention is that I did a Charlie Kirk joke in my set.

01:43:24.000 Them, you know what I mean?

01:43:26.000 Everybody gets them, everybody gets it, is always my favorite.

01:43:29.000 Everybody gets them jokes, everybody does.

01:43:33.000 I said that Kevin has uh, what quite the fan base, he has more gunfire at his merch table than Charlie Kirk, yeah, or whatever. 0.71

01:43:41.000 And um, so you know, for them to for people to nitpick that joke and be offended, and it's funny because it was a lot of uh, a lot of comedians, a lot of black comedians were like, I'm upset about this, you know, they made their Videos, which is just hilarious because they're not on the roast. 0.74

01:44:02.000 They're not in attendance at the roast. 0.68

01:44:04.000 You saw Tiffany Haddish.

01:44:05.000 That was the best one.

01:44:07.000 Nobody handled it better than her.

01:44:08.000 Find Tiffany Haddish getting asked questions.

01:44:12.000 Was it a TMZ thing?

01:44:13.000 Yeah.

01:44:14.000 About the roast because she handled it so perfectly. 0.99

01:44:19.000 They were trying to bait everybody.

01:44:21.000 Of course they were.

01:44:22.000 Everybody.

01:44:22.000 Even Cheryl Underwood, who handled it all like a champ.

01:44:25.000 We made friends before at a Netflix brunch that week that was.

01:44:31.000 For that festival.

01:44:32.000 Well, dude, I told you about Cheryl. 1.00

01:44:34.000 Yeah, she's the shit. 1.00

01:44:35.000 She's awesome. 1.00

01:44:36.000 I worked with Cheryl in like the early 2000s, I think it was, in Montreal. 1.00

01:44:41.000 I told you she's a monster. 0.98

01:44:42.000 She'd go and stitch her purse on, just clutching her purse on stage and murdered. 1.00

01:44:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:44:47.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:44:48.000 She'd murder. 0.97

01:44:49.000 Here's, listen to Tiffany.

01:44:51.000 Hey, I know. 1.00

01:44:52.000 She ran.

01:44:53.000 You look so good.

01:44:54.000 Do you have like 30 seconds to chat really quick?

01:44:56.000 So, talking about Kevin Hart roast, right?

01:44:56.000 Yeah.

01:44:58.000 Yes, it was so much fun.

01:44:59.000 So, Lonnie Love, they didn't think so.

01:45:01.000 Lonnie Love was like, you know what?

01:45:02.000 It's exhausting.

01:45:03.000 It's edgy.

01:45:04.000 Specifically about the George Floyd joke.

01:45:07.000 What are you thinking?

01:45:08.000 Is it just comedy?

01:45:10.000 Should they have been a little less.

01:45:12.000 I think it should have been shorter.

01:45:13.000 The show was too long.

01:45:15.000 Okay.

01:45:15.000 I mean, I was.

01:45:15.000 Sitting there the whole time, I had to pee.

01:45:17.000 Something I didn't hear the George Floyd joke because I had to pee so bad.

01:45:20.000 Yeah, I was a glorified seat filler and I was tired.

01:45:26.000 Well, also, I mean, Lonnie and other people were like, oh, maybe it was a little too racially motivated.

01:45:31.000 What do you think as far as like the jokes?

01:45:34.000 Is this just comedy or are people taking it too seriously?

01:45:38.000 Is this all comedians saying it that wasn't invited? 1.00

01:45:45.000 That's the fucking comedian Tiffany Haddish. 1.00

01:45:48.000 Bro, that was her version of the Sean O'Malley walk-off chaos. 0.99

01:45:52.000 I love it.

01:45:53.000 I love it, man.

01:45:55.000 You never forget those people that actually are answering honestly in real comics.

01:46:00.000 And again, it's the same thing for 100%.

01:46:04.000 Not only is it a fun walk-off home run, but she's also 100% correct.

01:46:09.000 There's nobody that was there that was offended.

01:46:13.000 There was no ruckus there.

01:46:14.000 It's just like everything else where you leave and you go, huh, this thing's kind of.

01:46:20.000 Crazily taking off, it seems.

01:46:22.000 A lot of people are talking about that one joke at the end.

01:46:25.000 It's so weird.

01:46:26.000 We live in an outrage culture and an outrage.

01:46:32.000 There's money in outrage, there's engagement in outrage.

01:46:35.000 Outrage is the commodity that everybody wants.

01:46:39.000 They want to be outraged and they want to be right. 0.97

01:46:41.000 And if you're outraged and you've got a good point, you just ride that fucking thing for as much juice as you can get out of it and then you move on to the next thing. 0.97

01:46:49.000 What are you mad at now? 0.97

01:46:50.000 There's never in any of these things, there's never a moment where I'm like, Okay, this could cause a problem.

01:46:57.000 It was, it's never been that way.

01:46:59.000 Wild, it was high fives, high fives and laughter after my 3 p.m. set in a half filled Madison Square Garden, waiting for the 8 p.m. arrival of Trump to speak on a 34 person lineup.

01:47:14.000 Everyone was thrilled.

01:47:17.000 Way to get the crowd going.

01:47:18.000 I mean, we're just getting the party started.

01:47:20.000 The lights were up.

01:47:21.000 Like, it obviously wasn't the best position for me on that lineup, but the same exact thing.

01:47:27.000 And then it's like a little bit later, you realize, like, Oh, they're making a news story about the Puerto Rico joke of all things.

01:47:33.000 So interesting.

01:47:34.000 I told you that joke was going to be a problem.

01:47:37.000 I would have never told you to do that joke during that, but I told you that was going to be a problem in your act.

01:47:42.000 It wasn't supposed to be in my original thing for that.

01:47:45.000 It was a last second filler because they gave me more time than everybody else.

01:47:48.000 It was a very bizarre thing.

01:47:50.000 They gave me more time for every bizarre thing.

01:47:52.000 First of all, the idea that you would go on after someone like who went on before you, Stephen Miller?

01:47:56.000 No, not he wasn't.

01:47:58.000 It was the national anthem with a guy painting a painting.

01:48:03.000 Actually, no.

01:48:04.000 He went on after me.

01:48:05.000 I went on right after the national anthem.

01:48:07.000 But someone had some kind of a rah rah speech.

01:48:10.000 Make America great again. 0.85

01:48:12.000 I wish there was.

01:48:13.000 That all came way after me, which is crazy.

01:48:16.000 They just had me on the wrong position on the thing.

01:48:20.000 You should only do stand up where people are doing stand up.

01:48:24.000 Totally.

01:48:24.000 It doesn't work.

01:48:25.000 Totally.

01:48:26.000 But you got to say.

01:48:27.000 But then again, it did work in house.

01:48:30.000 The place isn't mic'd for stand up comedy or lit for stand up or anything like it.

01:48:35.000 No, they were laughing.

01:48:36.000 They were having a good old time.

01:48:38.000 Well, they're probably happy that something wasn't stiff and boring. 1.00

01:48:41.000 You know, like taxes and fucking tariffs. 0.99

01:48:45.000 I mean, Rudy Giuliani went on like three hours after me. 1.00

01:48:48.000 That's crazy.

01:48:49.000 Yeah.

01:48:50.000 It was a nuts all day.

01:48:51.000 It was a super long thing.

01:48:53.000 My point being is that it always surprises me that I'm the news, even though I'm.

01:48:59.000 Because if someone else said it, if it was a politician that did it or someone else, someone high up in the administration, that would make sense.

01:49:08.000 Same thing with the roast.

01:49:09.000 If it was.

01:49:10.000 A clean comedian, right?

01:49:11.000 If Nate Bargazzi or Jim Gaffigan were on it and they said that, that's crazy.

01:49:17.000 Me saying it, that's normal.

01:49:20.000 They don't know that though.

01:49:21.000 See, the thing is, it's like you've achieved a level of fame that really snuck up on people over the last couple of years.

01:49:29.000 You know, it's because the rise of Kill Tony has been completely organic.

01:49:35.000 Like there's been no promotion of Kill Tony that made it become what it is.

01:49:39.000 It's all just people sharing it on YouTube, sharing it online.

01:49:43.000 That's all it is.

01:49:43.000 Clips.

01:49:44.000 And these moments, you know, and then, you know, obviously the Shane moments and all the Kyle Dunnigan.

01:49:52.000 It's been just so many amazing moments.

01:49:53.000 This is a good show.

01:49:55.000 It came organically. 1.00

01:49:56.000 And then you got to this point over the last couple of years, like, oh, we got to pay attention to this fucking guy. 0.95

01:50:02.000 And then after they started attacking you from the White House thing or the Madison Square Garden thing, rather, which is 2024, then it was on. 0.94

01:50:10.000 Then it's on like Donkey Kong, right?

01:50:11.000 So that's two years later.

01:50:13.000 So now you're a guy that they go to, like, to get mad at.

01:50:17.000 And there's a bunch of people like that online that that's their business.

01:50:20.000 Their business is people are mad at them.

01:50:22.000 They have hot takes.

01:50:23.000 People are mad at them.

01:50:24.000 Yeah.

01:50:24.000 I mean, that's so you've fallen into that category.

01:50:28.000 And so there's going to be people that genuinely don't like what you did and don't like you.

01:50:33.000 And then there's going to be people that are just using it as a commodity, they're just using it as outrage, which is part of what the game is. 0.98

01:50:40.000 You know, this is what they do in their engagement, you know, fucking game that they play. 0.95

01:50:46.000 And it's kind of what we do in the joke game. 0.99

01:50:49.000 You know, you get engagement.

01:50:51.000 You get people to laugh.

01:50:52.000 You say outrageous things that you don't even really mean, but it's because it's a funny thing to say.

01:50:57.000 It's just like I always say Bob Marley didn't really shoot the sheriff.

01:51:00.000 You know that, right?

01:51:01.000 Right.

01:51:02.000 It's like it's just jokes.

01:51:04.000 Exactly. 0.99

01:51:05.000 Like when you say inappropriate shit on purpose, and that is like everybody used to know that. 0.99

01:51:10.000 Like Louis C.K. was a very left wing progressive guy when he was saying really fucked up things that he didn't mean on purpose because they were funny. 0.99

01:51:19.000 Yeah. 0.90

01:51:20.000 Like that was what he did.

01:51:21.000 And everybody was fine with it.

01:51:23.000 Until somewhere around, it seems like it was like 2016, 2000, like it started to turn a corner where it became like people are starting to take these things as statements rather than as comedy material.

01:51:38.000 And they started trying to pretend that the person really means this.

01:51:42.000 Like that's where it got crazy.

01:51:44.000 And that happened around the time where social media really came into prominence.

01:51:49.000 Because before that, there was no real avenue to do that, there was no real avenue to pretend you were really deeply upset.

01:51:56.000 Yeah.

01:51:56.000 I mean, I'm sure there's some people that were upset, but there's also a lot of people that are just ill.

01:52:02.000 They're online all the time on these social media apps just arguing and spitting out venom and yelling at people, and they yell at them.

01:52:09.000 It's like they're in hell all day long.

01:52:11.000 And anytime something comes along, they could be upset at it.

01:52:14.000 They have to have their take.

01:52:16.000 They have to have that hot take. 0.98

01:52:17.000 Yeah.

01:52:18.000 And if their hot take gets engagement, they're all looking at their likes, and they just start re engaging with that subject and going back on it, and this is the real problem.

01:52:27.000 Okay.

01:52:28.000 Good luck with that.

01:52:30.000 That's bad for your head, kid.

01:52:31.000 Right.

01:52:32.000 Exactly.

01:52:32.000 Very bad for your head.

01:52:33.000 All those people that I know that are like, especially comics that are doing it, the comics that are doing it, almost all of them don't have good careers.

01:52:40.000 No, all of them.

01:52:41.000 Right.

01:52:42.000 None of them have like impressive careers, especially compared to their contemporaries that are doing well. 1.00

01:52:47.000 And then on top of it, they're all mentally ill. 0.99

01:52:49.000 They're all people that are fucking filled up with pharmaceuticals and they're going to therapy. 1.00

01:52:53.000 They're like literally mentally ill and they're online talking about fascists. 1.00

01:52:58.000 Right. 1.00

01:52:59.000 You know, like, stop. 1.00

01:53:00.000 Like, get your shit together. 1.00

01:53:01.000 No one, your opinion is not that valuable to people because they know that you're fucked up. 1.00

01:53:06.000 Do you not understand that? 1.00

01:53:07.000 Right.

01:53:08.000 Like the way you view the world is, it's not a healthy, balanced perspective. 0.99

01:53:14.000 Like you're viewing the world in this like mentally ill lens.

01:53:18.000 Well, the whole online thing doesn't, it doesn't even convert to sold tickets or a bigger thing.

01:53:24.000 It's such a temporary drug for them to get to fill this void of what they're not doing.

01:53:31.000 Right.

01:53:31.000 It doesn't convert to them, people wanting to go see them.

01:53:34.000 No.

01:53:35.000 I mean, some people maybe they get like a little juice out of it, but.

01:53:38.000 It's not enough because you're also opening the door.

01:53:40.000 If you do become popular, you have to understand that if you've been spitting hate at people for a decade and then you become popular, boy, that hate's coming your way.

01:53:49.000 It's coming your way, you know?

01:53:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:53:51.000 And, I mean, this is one of the things that I said after the Mencia stuff.

01:53:55.000 I said, even though I think it was the right thing to do, I wouldn't do it again because it's just too much.

01:54:00.000 Yeah.

01:54:00.000 It's just too much.

01:54:01.000 You just, you create all, you just feel the darkness of it all.

01:54:04.000 The negative, it's all negative.

01:54:06.000 It's all negative.

01:54:07.000 Even though it had to be done because you've got this guy that with it, it showed me how.

01:54:14.000 Absent of morals and ethics, the business is completely absent.

01:54:19.000 They knew what he was doing and they did not care.

01:54:23.000 They didn't care because they were profiting from it.

01:54:25.000 This is the conversation that I had with my agent when they were dumping me.

01:54:29.000 I told them, I go, You're making a mistake right now that's going to affect the rest of your life.

01:54:33.000 You have to understand the choice that you're making.

01:54:35.000 You're choosing to align with someone who, in any other industry, that person would be in jail.

01:54:41.000 Right.

01:54:42.000 If that person was, and also, If this was in literature or if this was in music, they would be sued into high heaven.

01:54:48.000 Like, there's songs that, like, they don't even seem like they're that close to each other.

01:54:54.000 And people had to give, like, songwriting credits to it.

01:54:57.000 Yeah.

01:54:58.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:59.000 Like, songs, like, people get inspired by certain songs and then they write a song that sounds close enough that there's a rhythm to it that people get upset.

01:55:11.000 Well, there's only so many notes and so many chords and there's only so many beats and so much timing.

01:55:17.000 And, It's often the same thing with comedy.

01:55:20.000 Like, there's some crossovers in a writer's room, which I've been in so many of.

01:55:25.000 So many people writing on the same subject will have the same joke.

01:55:30.000 It's only when it's like what Mencia was doing, word for word, long form.

01:55:35.000 Well, that was a different thing.

01:55:38.000 He was a Buccaneer.

01:55:39.000 That was a totally different thing.

01:55:41.000 But there's songs like, okay, so I was listening to this video the other day, watching this video the other day, rather, that was comparing Radiohead's creep.

01:55:51.000 To an older song, and they had to give Creep, Radiohead rather, had to give this older song writing credits for this, which sounds so different.

01:56:02.000 And then Radiohead accused Lana Del Rey, or someone from their organization, of having a song that ripped off Creep, or it sounded too much like Creep.

01:56:14.000 And it did sound a little like Creep, but it was very different.

01:56:16.000 Like, it should be.

01:56:18.000 Obviously, this is like inspired by it, right?

01:56:22.000 Elvis Presley's entire career was inspired by black musicians.

01:56:28.000 Like the way he danced and moved and the way he sang.

01:56:30.000 So it's like, what are we doing?

01:56:32.000 Like, there's stealing and then there's inspired by.

01:56:35.000 Inspired by is what we were all doing.

01:56:37.000 It's like we were talking about that computer earlier, that chip manufacturing thing. 0.87

01:56:41.000 That thing was built on the back of all the fucking super wizard geniuses that have been working on all the different technology that led to that being. 0.78

01:56:49.000 You can't just invent that in a vacuum. 0.94

01:56:51.000 You have to invent that on all these other inventions that have taken place for decades before you.

01:56:57.000 Right.

01:56:58.000 This is the same.

01:56:59.000 It's like with music, it's interesting how litigious they are.

01:57:04.000 Maybe it's because they're run by a certain group of people.

01:57:06.000 Tell me.

01:57:07.000 But they're so good at like suing people.

01:57:11.000 Like Bittersweet Symphony.

01:57:13.000 You remember that song?

01:57:13.000 Oh, yeah, totally.

01:57:14.000 They had to give all their money to the Stones.

01:57:17.000 Because it was, what song?

01:57:17.000 Yep.

01:57:21.000 It's.

01:57:22.000 Let's ask Perplexity.

01:57:24.000 While Tony is.

01:57:27.000 Or while Jamie, rather, is.

01:57:29.000 Oh, I can't do that.

01:57:30.000 No, we have to do it.

01:57:30.000 That's right.

01:57:30.000 No, you can't.

01:57:31.000 Do it.

01:57:32.000 It's a nice Sony 5 song called The Last Time.

01:57:32.000 I know.

01:57:35.000 If.

01:57:35.000 If I mean, we learned this the hard way because I have an actual band that can play anything and everything.

01:57:41.000 And years ago, they could play anything and everything.

01:57:44.000 Our old episodes hold.

01:57:47.000 Um, because you know, I'd literally be to a shy person, I'd be like, What do you, you know, you ever do karaoke?

01:57:53.000 They're like, Yes, I'd go, What song do you sing?

01:57:56.000 And then they go, Da da da da.

01:57:57.000 And I literally they would go right into it.

01:57:59.000 And now you can't hum a song for a few seconds.

01:58:03.000 So, Bittersweet Symphony was a sample from.

01:58:07.000 The Verve developed Bittersweet Symphony from a sample from a 1965 version of Rolling Stone's song The Last Time, adding vocals, strings, guitar, and percussion.

01:58:18.000 After a lawsuit by the Rolling Stones' former manager, Alan Klein, the Verve relinquished all royalties to the Rolling Stones' members, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, who were also added to the songwriting credits.

01:58:29.000 Wow.

01:58:31.000 2019, 10 years after Klein's death, Jagger, Richards, and Klein's son ceded the rights to the Verve songwriter, Richard Ashcroft, because he was probably broke.

01:58:40.000 There's similar things that have happened recently with, I think, Olivia Rodrigo and Paramore, and then like Puff Daddy and.

01:58:47.000 Yeah.

01:58:48.000 Can you please look up the other one that I set up, though, which was Radiohead Creep, Lana Del Rey, and Radiohead Creep had to give songwriting credits to another band.

01:58:59.000 The Hollies.

01:59:00.000 The Hollies, that's right.

01:59:01.000 What was the original song?

01:59:04.000 The Air That I Breathe.

01:59:07.000 It's interesting.

01:59:09.000 Let's listen to them.

01:59:10.000 See if you could find that there's a comparison video that I watched on YouTube.

01:59:16.000 See if you could find that.

01:59:17.000 Because it's interesting how they say the first one, and you're like, geez, I don't see it.

01:59:23.000 We'll have to edit this out, ladies and gentlemen, but you could find it yourself.

01:59:26.000 Radiohead's Creep versus Lana Del Rey's Get Free versus the Hollies, The Air That I Breathe.

01:59:31.000 Yeah, that was a live version of it, but if you hear the recorded version of it, it's even more.

01:59:37.000 You could see.

01:59:39.000 But people get inspired by things.

01:59:42.000 I get it, though.

01:59:44.000 I get it in those cases, especially like the beginning of the Holly song and then the beginning of Radiohead. 0.96

01:59:48.000 Like, I'm fucking dead on. 0.96

01:59:51.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:59:52.000 They're set in a mood, like a very specific mood.

01:59:55.000 Have you ever seen how the guy from.

01:59:57.000 Here's a crazy one.

01:59:58.000 The guy from The Gorillaz, the song Clint Eastwood, I think it is.

02:00:04.000 He had one of those little kids kind of keyboards and he hit the demo button because oftentimes it'll just have a regular song or whatever.

02:00:15.000 And.

02:00:16.000 It's the entire backbone of their biggest hit.

02:00:22.000 You'd have to pull it up, I guess, to understand, but it's that.

02:00:24.000 Yeah, there it is.

02:00:30.000 So that's just on the thing.

02:00:32.000 Wow.

02:00:34.000 And somehow they got away with it.

02:00:37.000 And then all they do from there is just.

02:00:37.000 Wow.

02:00:41.000 Yeah.

02:00:42.000 That's the preset.

02:00:43.000 It's the Rock One preset.

02:00:46.000 That's so crazy.

02:00:51.000 They used that.

02:00:52.000 They used a preset from one of those little machines, like a toy. 0.98

02:00:58.000 And much like the fucking crazy jokes that end up getting me in trouble, I bet they don't even think that's going to be the hit. 0.98

02:01:04.000 You know what I mean? 0.98

02:01:05.000 Like, they're probably not like, this is the song that's going to fly off the shelves.

02:01:09.000 Yeah, but other people see it, Tony. 0.97

02:01:10.000 I was the one who told you you're going to get stabbed for the Puerto Rican joke. 0.68

02:01:14.000 That was so many years later. 0.95

02:01:16.000 It's crazy.

02:01:17.000 I was doing that joke during the pandemic to the point where it got extended to where you were part of it.

02:01:22.000 And what's funny is I left those tags of the longer joke out of the Trump rally one, which probably would have protected me.

02:01:30.000 It probably would have saved it going, ah, it's going to get me stabbed, whatever.

02:01:33.000 You know what I mean?

02:01:34.000 Then you would have to do the Amy Schubert joke.

02:01:36.000 Well, yeah, there was a lot to it.

02:01:37.000 Yeah.

02:01:38.000 People don't realize that that's a small bit of a much bigger chunk at the time.

02:01:44.000 Well, that's why it should be in a set.

02:01:47.000 Comedy is such a weird art form.

02:01:49.000 I mean, look, I love it to death, but real comedy should be seen in person.

02:01:54.000 Oh, yeah.

02:01:55.000 Stanhope said this once.

02:01:56.000 It was like everything we do on TV is just to try to get people to come see us in the clubs.

02:01:59.000 Exactly.

02:02:00.000 That's really what it is.

02:02:01.000 You just really want people to go there live because that's the real fun. 0.98

02:02:05.000 The real fun is all us, a bunch of human beings, fucking around and having a good time. 0.99

02:02:10.000 Right. 0.93

02:02:10.000 As soon as you start taking it seriously and making it something that it's not, like you're, I get why you're doing it because that has become a thing that people do today. 0.93

02:02:20.000 But I'm just saying, like, for your own mental health, just not, it's not good for you to be engaging.

02:02:26.000 Like I was saying about the Carlos thing, like just engaging in conflict, it's not good.

02:02:30.000 It's not good for you.

02:02:31.000 It's bad for you.

02:02:32.000 Feels bad.

02:02:32.000 Yeah.

02:02:33.000 It's not good.

02:02:34.000 It's not, it's your, this is, there's negative energy and positive energy.

02:02:38.000 You should spend as much of your time possible on things that make positive energy.

02:02:44.000 I know that sounds hippie because I'm a little bit of hippie.

02:02:46.000 I got a lot of hippie in me.

02:02:48.000 But that's what I believe. 0.99

02:02:49.000 I believe you should spend as much of your time having fun, making people laugh, having a good time, and less about dwelling on shit. 0.97

02:02:58.000 That's why I try to stay off Twitter because when I get on, I just start freaking out at all the different news stories that are just abomination after abomination where you're just so angry. 0.98

02:02:58.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:03:09.000 It's just impossible now.

02:03:11.000 And, you know, it used to be Twitter was Twitter and this and that, but really it's just the news.

02:03:16.000 X is the news.

02:03:22.000 It was fun and, you know, it's cool and all.

02:03:25.000 And my algorithm still shows me stuff that I love police chases gone wrong and UFC highlights and all of this stuff.

02:03:34.000 But all the stuff around that is just crazy.

02:03:38.000 I did a thing because I was staying at a hotel in DC right after.

02:03:47.000 The State of the Union, or something.

02:03:49.000 Anyway, I'm like, okay, it's a hotel TV.

02:03:52.000 I never get to watch regular TV.

02:03:54.000 I'm going to be asleep in a few minutes anyway.

02:03:57.000 So I threw on, I ended up going by CNN. 1.00

02:04:00.000 I'm like, let's see what these wackos are saying over here. 1.00

02:04:03.000 Let's see how fake the news can possibly be because, from what I understand, the most recent State of the Union was a solid State of the Union and very positive and long and entertaining. 0.92

02:04:14.000 Let's see what they say.

02:04:16.000 Oh, racism, this. 0.99

02:04:17.000 He caused the deaths of black. 0.99

02:04:18.000 People here. 1.00

02:04:19.000 He's the reason why America's failing.

02:04:22.000 It's the reason why we're the laughing stock of the country.

02:04:26.000 It made me so stressed out.

02:04:28.000 And I'm like, okay, well, let's see what Fox News is saying.

02:04:30.000 And it was crazy over there.

02:04:32.000 And then you have.

02:04:33.000 What did they say?

02:04:36.000 Well, they had their counterpoint person on, unlike CNN, where they're just all in agreeance.

02:04:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:04:42.000 And going by six people, literally going, yeah, he's the worst. 0.88

02:04:47.000 And let's not forget that he doesn't think trans people deserve this and this. 0.93

02:04:51.000 And like, they're just going on and on about straight doom.

02:04:55.000 And Fox News had a counterpoint person that was stressing me out.

02:05:00.000 I swear to God, I'm not kidding.

02:05:02.000 This is not a joke.

02:05:03.000 I was flipping through the different channels.

02:05:05.000 I go by MSNBC.

02:05:06.000 I'm like, oh my God, this is crazy.

02:05:08.000 I put on Silence of the Lambs.

02:05:11.000 To calm yourself down?

02:05:12.000 I swear to God, I was asleep five minutes later.

02:05:17.000 And I ended up, it just coincidentally was on the Buffalo Bill part where he's got a girl in a well.

02:05:23.000 There's lotion in the basket.

02:05:24.000 Pure darkness.

02:05:27.000 And I'm like, ah.

02:05:28.000 Finally, some peace on the cable television.

02:05:31.000 I never get to just watch normal TV.

02:05:33.000 So, did Fox News have a positive spin on the State of the Union address?

02:05:36.000 I did not watch it.

02:05:37.000 I remember for some reason it was stressing me out, whatever was going on.

02:05:42.000 Because, at least Fox has, they'll argue still like the news used to be.

02:05:47.000 They'll have both sides on and kind of talk it out.

02:05:51.000 And CNN has that poor guy, that poor one guy that just takes all the bullets for everybody.

02:05:57.000 It's just going, you're lying.

02:05:59.000 This is that stat doesn't exist.

02:06:01.000 Scott Jennings.

02:06:01.000 Yes.

02:06:02.000 Yeah.

02:06:03.000 That poor guy is probably, he probably has months to live.

02:06:06.000 He takes so many bullets every day. 1.00

02:06:09.000 He's a fucking war hero out there. 1.00

02:06:13.000 It's a very turbulent world when it comes to discourse. 1.00

02:06:15.000 It's just everybody's mad at everybody else.

02:06:18.000 It's really weird to watch.

02:06:19.000 It's really weird to watch these shows on CNN now that are basically like bad podcasts that get interrupted every five minutes for a commercial.

02:06:28.000 It's really what it's like.

02:06:29.000 I just don't remember it being that way, where it's just so many panel opinion shows.

02:06:35.000 I remember it was like CNN used to have Bourdain's show on.

02:06:39.000 Yep.

02:06:39.000 You know, where they would travel around the country and check out, or travel around the world and check out food.

02:06:45.000 And it was interesting.

02:06:47.000 And he would, you know, give you his perspective on the cultures and all the problems and the things that these people were facing, their food and what the community was like.

02:06:47.000 Yep.

02:06:57.000 It was a fucking great show. 0.99

02:06:59.000 They did a bunch of different shows that were different, you know, and then. 0.99

02:07:03.000 Somewhere along the line, man, they just went all outrage.

02:07:07.000 And I don't think that's going to get any different now.

02:07:07.000 Yeah.

02:07:10.000 I mean, now it looks like Barry Weiss is going to be running that as well.

02:07:14.000 So she's running the CBS News, and perhaps she's going to be running CNN, or the same company is going to be running CNN.

02:07:20.000 It's like, okay.

02:07:21.000 Yeah.

02:07:22.000 Good luck.

02:07:23.000 Because people already don't want to listen, they don't want to take it seriously.

02:07:23.000 Good luck.

02:07:27.000 Yeah.

02:07:28.000 You know, and that's why X has become the news.

02:07:30.000 The reason why it's become the news is because they can't trust the news.

02:07:33.000 You know?

02:07:33.000 Right.

02:07:34.000 Totally.

02:07:35.000 It's crazy.

02:07:36.000 Tim Dillon had these two New York Times reporters on his podcast, and I listened to him talking about it.

02:07:41.000 I hadn't listened to them on the podcast, but I listened to him talking about it, and he was saying that they said there's no evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was intelligence.

02:07:50.000 I was like, what?

02:07:51.000 What?

02:07:53.000 There's no evidence.

02:07:54.000 Watch one Mike Benz episode of my podcast where he breaks it down.

02:07:59.000 It's almost impossible that he's not.

02:08:01.000 Right. 1.00

02:08:02.000 Like, what the fuck are you? 1.00

02:08:03.000 No evidence? 0.99

02:08:04.000 No, that's not true.

02:08:05.000 There's just evidence that you're not considering.

02:08:07.000 So, it's like if the New York Times and the people that we're always supposed to trust to be the objective purveyors of all that's going on in the world, if they're compromised, so they're not allowed to say things, or they have narratives that they're supposed to spin one way or another, or they're very cautious about being honest about their opinion, very shielded about their actual opinions, either one of those is not good.

02:08:29.000 Or if they actually believe that, that's not good either because that means you're not really paying attention objectively.

02:08:36.000 Like, watch a Mike Benz episode where he breaks down.

02:08:39.000 Epstein's connections.

02:08:40.000 It's nuts.

02:08:41.000 The whole thing's nuts.

02:08:44.000 It's crazy that anybody could say that he wasn't intelligence.

02:08:48.000 Yeah, there's no doubt about it.

02:08:50.000 But they will do anything to push their own story.

02:08:53.000 They don't, yeah.

02:08:54.000 It's a propaganda network.

02:08:56.000 And whatever that propaganda is, I mean, that propaganda will shift depending upon who's in control of the realm, of the reigns, rather.

02:08:56.000 Yeah.

02:09:04.000 The realm really is a realm, a realm of nonsense.

02:09:07.000 Well, whoever's in control, they're going to be the ones that dictate how the narrative goes.

02:09:11.000 And it's always going to be.

02:09:12.000 Whatever the sponsors are.

02:09:14.000 That's why you never hear anything about any of these studies that they're showing about the vaccine safety signals that they found very early on, how they hit it, all this Fauci stuff.

02:09:25.000 They're not showing any of that.

02:09:26.000 The Tulsi Gabbard speech, we talked about that, where she gave this speech explaining how he lied to Congress and Fauci pressured these other scientists to change their perspective on whether or not it was gain of function research. 0.97

02:09:40.000 The shit that we had a pretty big feeling about back in 2020. 0.98

02:09:40.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:09:44.000 Yeah, you don't hear any of these people.

02:09:46.000 They're not covering it.

02:09:47.000 And they can't because they can't really tell you the whole news.

02:09:47.000 Yeah.

02:09:50.000 They can only tell you the news they're approved to tell you.

02:09:53.000 And that's how X comes about.

02:09:53.000 That's not good.

02:09:55.000 That's how X becomes the place where everybody trusts.

02:09:55.000 Yeah.

02:09:58.000 But then you go to X and it's just filled with horseshit. 0.99

02:10:01.000 There's so much lies. 0.97

02:10:02.000 There's always video of something happening and they're saying, this is going on right now.

02:10:07.000 And you're like, and then someone says, no, this is a video from 2022.

02:10:11.000 This is in, you know, this part of the world.

02:10:11.000 Right.

02:10:13.000 This is AI. 0.78

02:10:14.000 This is China.

02:10:15.000 This is not Israel. 0.99

02:10:16.000 This is, you know, it's like, There's so much horseshit and there's so many bots. 0.99

02:10:21.000 It's like you just dip your toe into the water and you just feel poisoned. 0.82

02:10:25.000 You're like, I got to get out of here.

02:10:27.000 But then you feel irresponsible for not paying attention.

02:10:30.000 Exactly.

02:10:31.000 And I feel like so many people feel like they're doing the right thing watching the news and being informed.

02:10:37.000 And they hear that the news is fake and they think that's just like a Trump talking point.

02:10:42.000 I've always said that Trump calling it fake news was like one of the worst things that could happen because then it Sounds like a Trump thing, and the Trump enemies go, Oh, fake news.

02:10:52.000 Sure, it's fake.

02:10:53.000 If he's saying it, then it can't be fake because we have to disagree with him. 1.00

02:10:57.000 Meanwhile, it's a fucking, it's a goddamn production. 1.00

02:11:01.000 I mean, it is. 1.00

02:11:03.000 And they're right.

02:11:04.000 It's fake.

02:11:04.000 Yeah.

02:11:05.000 It's fake.

02:11:06.000 A lot of the news is fake.

02:11:07.000 It's not true.

02:11:08.000 All that, I mean, the fact that no one got in trouble for all that Russiagate stuff.

02:11:13.000 Crazy.

02:11:14.000 Absolutely crazy. 1.00

02:11:15.000 And that they still listen, the same people that were pushing that Russiagate shit are still giving opinions on TV. 0.99

02:11:22.000 It's nuts. 0.99

02:11:22.000 Right. 0.99

02:11:23.000 Yeah, there's no repercussions to be found.

02:11:25.000 They get to say whatever they want.

02:11:27.000 It's crazy.

02:11:30.000 Well, the repercussion is no one takes them seriously.

02:11:34.000 And that's real.

02:11:35.000 They've suffered that.

02:11:36.000 I mean, we've seen that in real time.

02:11:38.000 And I think the pandemic was the big wake up call for a lot of people, especially people that were forced to take the vaccine because they had jobs or they had a fly or they had family members and then they got some horrible side effect.

02:11:55.000 And those people got what they call red pilled, you know?

02:11:58.000 I know a lot of people that got red pilled from that.

02:12:01.000 They just can't take it anymore.

02:12:03.000 It's crazy.

02:12:04.000 And it's bubble ish.

02:12:06.000 You know what I mean?

02:12:07.000 There's certain areas geographically in which that's the mentality and they stick to it. 1.00

02:12:14.000 I mean, here in Austin, I'm known as, you know, a skinny little faggot. 0.99

02:12:23.000 I went to LA and it turns out I'm a racist Nazi. 0.99

02:12:26.000 Like, I'm like, they were doing jokes on me at that roast in which it's like, what are you guys talking about? 1.00

02:12:32.000 There's parts where I'm literally like, what the fuck? 0.98

02:12:34.000 I've never even heard this about myself. 0.99

02:12:36.000 I'm on a comedy show.

02:12:38.000 Every week, where people take shots at me, and I've none of this is a thing.

02:12:43.000 Well, it's made up, and it's all they also made up a bunch of stuff about like you going to Saudi Arabia, yeah, which is crazy, right?

02:12:51.000 Crazy, they just made it up, yeah, like not only made it up, turned it down, like didn't go when offered vast sums of money that the bus boy, bag boy Tony would never imagine turning down.

02:13:04.000 And people don't even know that you turned it down, right?

02:13:06.000 Because you haven't been public about it, right.

02:13:08.000 I mentioned it.

02:13:09.000 I glazed over it for one moment on Kill Tony once.

02:13:13.000 But yes, that's the people that turned down that money are you and Shane Gillis.

02:13:17.000 Yeah.

02:13:17.000 And meanwhile, Netflix clipped that and pinned it on their Instagram, that joke, and with the caption long sip because I'm sipping my water because the joke isn't on me.

02:13:28.000 So the camera shouldn't be on me.

02:13:30.000 Meanwhile, they're getting my reaction shot to all you guys took that Saudi Arabian money and it makes it look like I'm offended or something.

02:13:38.000 Or guilty of taking Saudi Arabian money.

02:13:41.000 But just a joke when you just lie about a fact and to make a joke is crazy.

02:13:47.000 Because you're just lying.

02:13:50.000 There's a difference between that and making a joke about something.

02:13:52.000 You had to make something true and then criticize them for something.

02:13:57.000 So you had to lie about something and then criticize them about that lie that you just invented.

02:14:02.000 Yeah.

02:14:02.000 Which takes three seconds to find out it wasn't true.

02:14:05.000 Exactly.

02:14:06.000 It takes a really quick search like, oh, he didn't go.

02:14:09.000 Right.

02:14:10.000 On the contrary, the guys that Chelsea was complimenting during that set, basically, Kevin Hart and Pete Davidson, did take the money and went to Saudi Arabia.

02:14:10.000 Okay.

02:14:21.000 Also, you don't think Chelsea Handler would have taken that money if they offered her to go to Saudi Arabia?

02:14:25.000 She went to dinner at Epstein's house. 0.99

02:14:27.000 What the fuck are we talking about? 0.99

02:14:27.000 Exactly. 0.99

02:14:28.000 But it's all right because Woody Allen was there.

02:14:30.000 Yeah.

02:14:31.000 And apparently she gave him the what have you.

02:14:35.000 She told him.

02:14:36.000 That's what they said.

02:14:37.000 She told him.

02:14:37.000 She was very upset with him.

02:14:40.000 Yeah.

02:14:41.000 At the intelligence agent. 1.00

02:14:43.000 Slash sexual predators' house. 1.00

02:14:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:14:46.000 Guys who are arrested for statutory rape. 0.97

02:14:50.000 That's fine, though. 0.99

02:14:51.000 Crazy. 1.00

02:14:52.000 It's just, yeah, don't be a white guy. 1.00

02:14:55.000 It's nuts. 1.00

02:14:56.000 It's just, the whole thing is so stupid. 1.00

02:14:58.000 Like, if you want to make fun of someone for anything, for, you know, you looking gay or you, like, you're down with that. 1.00

02:15:05.000 But when you invent a fact that's not true, you say it's not true and then you criticize someone for that. 1.00

02:15:11.000 Like, that's stupid. 1.00

02:15:12.000 That's a stupid way to do comedy. 1.00

02:15:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:15:14.000 You know? 1.00

02:15:15.000 And the way that it's, Covered and everything.

02:15:17.000 It's like, what are you guys doing?

02:15:19.000 Well, if you didn't know, and people didn't know, obviously, because they laughed.

02:15:24.000 They thought maybe you did go, or maybe Shane did go.

02:15:26.000 They didn't know that you were the two people that did say no.

02:15:30.000 You know, Jessica Kerson went and she got criticized so much, she gave her money away. 0.84

02:15:36.000 She gave the money away.

02:15:37.000 I think she gave it away. 0.57

02:15:38.000 What did she do with the money? 0.87

02:15:39.000 Find out what she did.

02:15:40.000 But I was like, oh, man.

02:15:42.000 Listen, those people that went to see Jessica Kerson, first of all, I heard she murdered over there.

02:15:46.000 She's very funny. 0.99

02:15:48.000 She's a fucking dynamo. 1.00

02:15:49.000 She's a killer on stage. 1.00

02:15:50.000 Very, very entertaining. 1.00

02:15:52.000 Lovely lady. 0.97

02:15:53.000 I love her to death. 0.97

02:15:53.000 She's fun to talk to. 0.97

02:15:55.000 She fucking murdered over there, I heard. 1.00

02:15:59.000 So, a lesbian woman from New York went to Saudi Arabia. 1.00

02:16:06.000 Donates Riyadh Comedy Festival fee to Human Rights Campaign. 1.00

02:16:10.000 Well, all that money is going to someone's payroll.

02:16:12.000 Yeah.

02:16:13.000 It's going to a daycare center in Minneapolis.

02:16:16.000 Yeah, you feel better. 0.97

02:16:17.000 But meanwhile, it's paying for someone's salary that's probably not fixing homelessness or whatever the fuck it is. 0.88

02:16:23.000 And that's what they do. 0.96

02:16:24.000 Tom Segura went and put a photo of a Ferrari and said, thanks, Saudi Arabia.

02:16:30.000 Yeah.

02:16:32.000 But everybody was very upset.

02:16:33.000 But But my perspective is the people that are in that audience, if you're upset at the people that are paying and organizing, okay.

02:16:43.000 The people that are in that audience, though, that they're performing to, they don't get a chance to see American stand up comedy.

02:16:48.000 And they're getting a chance to see it live.

02:16:50.000 And stand up comedy, like music, like literature, changes people's minds.

02:16:55.000 It changes all art, where you see someone, a different person than you, with a totally different perspective that lives on another side of the world that says something that you think is hilarious and you love.

02:17:05.000 It changes, you know.

02:17:08.000 It changes people's perspectives.

02:17:09.000 You win hearts and minds.

02:17:10.000 I mean, that's real.

02:17:11.000 Like, you can change the world a little bit by getting people to say, hey, we kind of are, we all have a lot of shared interests.

02:17:19.000 We just want to have fun.

02:17:21.000 We just want to be with our friends, be with our family, and do what we want to do.

02:17:25.000 Like, everybody wants that, including those people in the audience.

02:17:28.000 Like, those people in the audience in Saudi Arabia were just Saudi Arabian citizens.

02:17:32.000 They're just a bunch of people that lived there that came out to see comedy. 0.93

02:17:35.000 Like, performing in front of them, I mean, What is wrong with that?

02:17:42.000 It's wrong.

02:17:43.000 You're supposed to boycott it because the people that run it probably were involved with the killing of Jamal Khashoggi in some way or the people that finance it.

02:17:52.000 Okay.

02:17:54.000 Maybe.

02:17:56.000 I see how you didn't want to do it and I see how Shane didn't want to do it and I probably wouldn't want to do it either.

02:18:01.000 But I don't have any problem with people doing it.

02:18:03.000 Because I think at the end of the day, you're just like I don't have any problem with Saudi Arabia putting on these boxing matches that I talked about.

02:18:08.000 I love that they put on these boxing matches.

02:18:11.000 And oddly enough, that's not really criticized that much.

02:18:14.000 Even by like heavy duty left wing MMA media, which is a real thing. 0.64

02:18:19.000 There's a lot of like shit libs that are MMA media just because they're journalists and they just happen to be fans, but they have that like hardcore left wing perspective. 0.83

02:18:29.000 They don't seem to have that much of a problem with it. 0.95

02:18:32.000 Not like people had the problem with the comics over there, where guys like Louie and Bill Burr, they just get destroyed for that.

02:18:38.000 Yeah.

02:18:40.000 It's nuts.

02:18:40.000 Yeah.

02:18:41.000 But I think Segura had the right move.

02:18:43.000 Just don't even pay attention. 1.00

02:18:45.000 Fuck off. 1.00

02:18:46.000 I'm going to perform wherever I want to perform. 1.00

02:18:49.000 You know?

02:18:50.000 Yeah.

02:18:50.000 No, it makes sense.

02:18:51.000 Totally.

02:18:52.000 I just can't go straight from a Trump rally to Saudi Arabia like that.

02:18:56.000 It's a little bit of a hop, a skip, and a jump.

02:19:00.000 I know.

02:19:01.000 It's also, it's like, you know, is that what you want to do?

02:19:05.000 It's too long.

02:19:05.000 I don't want to go there.

02:19:06.000 Right.

02:19:06.000 I want to be on a plane for 16 hours to go anywhere.

02:19:09.000 Yeah.

02:19:09.000 Exactly.

02:19:10.000 I hate it.

02:19:11.000 I hate flying. 1.00

02:19:12.000 Fuck off. 1.00

02:19:12.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:19:13.000 It's terrible.

02:19:14.000 Come to Texas.

02:19:15.000 Yeah.

02:19:16.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

02:19:18.000 It's just we live in a very polarized society, and I think a large part of that is what we were talking about earlier with social media and mentally ill people just screaming into the fucking void every day. 0.89

02:19:30.000 I just would like to suggest to people just try not to engage like that for a month and see how much better you feel. 0.97

02:19:38.000 Yeah, just try it.

02:19:39.000 Talk and make friends.

02:19:40.000 And hopefully, that's not how you've set up your life where you have to do that for a living.

02:19:44.000 Hopefully, you're not one of those people because there are people that are paid posters and they make a pretty good living.

02:19:49.000 Just posting and getting engagement.

02:19:50.000 Well, you know, I don't know what to tell you.

02:19:54.000 You're trapped. 0.99

02:19:55.000 You know, if your whole thing is like shitting on people all day long, you're kind of trapped. 0.99

02:19:55.000 Right. 0.99

02:19:59.000 Yeah.

02:20:00.000 But you can't feel good.

02:20:02.000 There's no way.

02:20:03.000 No.

02:20:04.000 There's no way.

02:20:05.000 It's like the amount of cortisol that must be pumping through your body all day where you're going over.

02:20:10.000 And I see like people that do that.

02:20:12.000 I see how they get destroyed in the replies.

02:20:15.000 And I'm like, and I know they're reading that.

02:20:17.000 Like, good Lord.

02:20:19.000 Yeah.

02:20:20.000 Like, I don't know how Gavin Newsom is still alive. 0.99

02:20:23.000 Every time he posts something, the way he gets destroyed in those comments is like fucking insane. 0.96

02:20:30.000 Well, no one is happy. 0.88

02:20:32.000 It's just the funniest thing because he reminds me of like one of the last actual politicians.

02:20:40.000 Like he's a different, just lying, ignoring of facts type of human being because we're witnessing it.

02:20:49.000 Maybe it's easy for someone in, I don't know, New Hampshire to go, ah, that Gavin Newsom's the future.

02:20:57.000 But we lived in California and I've been to San Francisco recently and we've seen it.

02:21:03.000 Like when you travel, you know, comedians aren't the end all be all and these wise, whatever sages, perhaps, but we do travel a lot.

02:21:13.000 And you spend a weekend in a city and you're not just doing your shows, you're having lunch somewhere, you're having coffee somewhere, you're dealing with the people at the hotel lot, whatever it may be.

02:21:23.000 There's different communications and vibes and energies.

02:21:26.000 And there's so many of these places, especially California.

02:21:29.000 You know, San Diego is like a last stand, Huntington Beach is an area around there.

02:21:35.000 There's like, These little pockets in which there's still some common sense and happiness and joy, Newport, these little pockets. 1.00

02:21:44.000 But those major cities are fucked, man. 0.95

02:21:48.000 Even the drive, and you know, I go to LA basically maybe once a year now for a quick, always fun visit, always doing some arena and a couple nights at the store, which is different, unfortunately. 0.99

02:22:01.000 But the drive from LAX to that area of West Hollywoodslash Beverly Hills is gruesome.

02:22:09.000 Everything is for lease.

02:22:11.000 Everything is empty. 0.98

02:22:15.000 There's nothing new except for the crazy looking, weird ass Obama Museum Library, which is the craziest, weirdest eyesore humanly imagined. 0.95

02:22:25.000 Where's that? 0.95

02:22:26.000 It's like on the way up there.

02:22:28.000 I can't remember if it's like off of La Cienega or Fairfax.

02:22:32.000 That's not the new one because the new one is in Chicago, isn't it?

02:22:35.000 Oh, it is? 0.99

02:22:36.000 What's the fucking thing? 1.00

02:22:37.000 They built something that looks just like that monstrosity. 1.00

02:22:39.000 No, the one in Chicago, people don't like it. 0.62

02:22:42.000 I think it looks dope.

02:22:46.000 It looks like something from Blade Runner.

02:22:48.000 Yeah.

02:22:49.000 I like it.

02:22:50.000 A lot of people don't like it, but it costs a lot of money.

02:22:52.000 It costs like $850 million.

02:22:54.000 See if you can find out what that building looks like.

02:22:58.000 Show me a photo of something that looks just like that building.

02:23:00.000 There's a sports complex in Los Angeles they made.

02:23:04.000 Who did the Obamas?

02:23:05.000 Yeah.

02:23:06.000 Oh, okay.

02:23:08.000 What is the one in Chicago?

02:23:11.000 A lot of people were criticizing it, and I saw it.

02:23:12.000 I go, that thing looks dope.

02:23:14.000 I love it.

02:23:15.000 Like that thing?

02:23:16.000 Where is it?

02:23:17.000 Yeah, the one there where your cursor is.

02:23:18.000 Click on that.

02:23:20.000 Oh, that's a rendering?

02:23:21.000 I don't think it's done yet.

02:23:22.000 Oh, it's not done?

02:23:23.000 I don't mean this.

02:23:23.000 Maybe.

02:23:24.000 I thought people were in it.

02:23:25.000 I don't think so.

02:23:26.000 What's it down there in the lower?

02:23:29.000 I thought people were already going to it.

02:23:32.000 I don't know that.

02:23:36.000 I think that's it.

02:23:37.000 That looks like a rendering to me. 0.99

02:23:38.000 That looks fake as fuck. 0.99

02:23:40.000 But that one down there, that one down there with the darkness in the corner. 0.99

02:23:45.000 Yeah, right there.

02:23:46.000 Is that real?

02:23:49.000 Encyclopedia Britannica?

02:23:52.000 I think that's a real photo.

02:23:55.000 I think it's done.

02:23:56.000 I might be wrong.

02:23:58.000 But let's see if it.

02:24:00.000 Oh, you have Los Angeles, Chicago.

02:24:05.000 Yeah, it's real.

02:24:07.000 So it's up.

02:24:08.000 But I think it looks cool.

02:24:10.000 It's different.

02:24:15.000 People are saying it's ugly.

02:24:16.000 See if you can find photos of it.

02:24:16.000 It looks like.

02:24:17.000 Go to images.

02:24:22.000 Yeah, just.

02:24:23.000 Yeah, we go.

02:24:24.000 Like there.

02:24:25.000 Dude, I think that looks dope.

02:24:29.000 Yeah.

02:24:29.000 Really?

02:24:30.000 That windowless.

02:24:32.000 Look at how it has the writing on the top.

02:24:33.000 What does it say?

02:24:34.000 Go all the way up, please.

02:24:35.000 I'm trying.

02:24:37.000 Oh.

02:24:41.000 Unconstrained convention by what?

02:24:45.000 It's written on two sides.

02:24:48.000 Oh, right.

02:24:49.000 Oh, it goes all the way around it. 0.99

02:24:50.000 Oh, that's fucking cool. 0.97

02:24:52.000 I think that looks cool. 0.99

02:24:54.000 I mean, maybe I have no taste.

02:24:55.000 I mean, we can't even find an angle of what they're trying to say there, so.

02:25:00.000 I don't know what it's saying, but I think it's cool that they did that, that they had words that go across like that.

02:25:00.000 Right.

02:25:06.000 I just think it looks sick.

02:25:08.000 But I like that kind of brutalist architecture.

02:25:11.000 I think that's what they call it.

02:25:12.000 Yeah.

02:25:13.000 I like that kind of cool cement with big glass.

02:25:15.000 Like, there's a lot of houses like that, especially like in the Hollywood Hills that I love.

02:25:21.000 I looked at one of them back when I was starting to make that cheddar.

02:25:26.000 And I was like, maybe I should live in Hollywood and then I could just do the store right there.

02:25:31.000 But I was like, Probably not that safe.

02:25:35.000 I looked at the house above the store that Mitzi was selling.

02:25:40.000 What was on Colfax?

02:25:42.000 Was that what it was?

02:25:43.000 Was that the street?

02:25:44.000 It was the comic store, the comic house where Kinnison stayed there and Paulie lived there for a while.

02:25:50.000 But I had dogs and I was like, this is not enough backyard.

02:25:53.000 It's too small.

02:25:54.000 And also, it's too close to the machine.

02:25:57.000 It's right next to the beast.

02:25:59.000 I don't know if I want to be right next to the beast.

02:26:02.000 I think I'd rather be outside the beast and go visit.

02:26:05.000 For me, for my head, But I looked at a couple of houses up there, and one of them was this house that was like really out of my budget, really.

02:26:13.000 I was just, I shouldn't have been looking at it.

02:26:14.000 It was like 10 million bucks.

02:26:16.000 And it had crazy, like, concrete with massive windows, but it was right there on the street.

02:26:26.000 Like, you're walking on the street, there's a sidewalk, you could lean over and touch the front door of the house.

02:26:31.000 I was like, this is kind of crazy to buy this house.

02:26:34.000 And the guy was like, don't worry, we have a state of the art security system.

02:26:37.000 So I go, yeah, you know what that is?

02:26:38.000 I go, your cameras are going to catch a guy with a ski mask robbing you.

02:26:41.000 Yeah.

02:26:42.000 And two weeks after I said that, the guy who owned the house got shot in it.

02:26:47.000 Two weeks.

02:26:47.000 Whoa.

02:26:48.000 Got shot in the neck. 1.00

02:26:50.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:26:51.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:26:52.000 Damn. 1.00

02:26:53.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:26:54.000 Yeah.

02:26:55.000 So, hey.

02:26:56.000 That's these places, man.

02:26:58.000 But that kind of architecture, I think, is dope.

02:27:01.000 I like that crazy modern cement stuff.

02:27:04.000 But for a house, like what you're going to live in, the reality is you'd probably be like, I'm sleeping in a museum.

02:27:10.000 This is too weird.

02:27:11.000 Yeah.

02:27:12.000 I'd rather just have a regular house.

02:27:13.000 Yeah.

02:27:15.000 Windows are a necessity.

02:27:16.000 Yeah.

02:27:17.000 I just want to see stuff.

02:27:19.000 I just want to be able to have a cup of coffee and see some trees.

02:27:22.000 You know? 0.98

02:27:23.000 Let me just sit down and fucking collect my thoughts for the day. 0.99

02:27:27.000 You know? 0.99

02:27:27.000 I don't necessarily need to be in a fucking museum. 0.99

02:27:31.000 Concrete ass, big. 1.00

02:27:33.000 There's something weird about it. 1.00

02:27:35.000 It's like you're too weird. 0.96

02:27:36.000 If you live like that, you're weird, man.

02:27:39.000 You're living with this giant 20 foot high glass wall in front of you.

02:27:46.000 That looks out at the Blade Runner scape that is Los Angeles from the hills.

02:27:50.000 Have you seen that view at night?

02:27:52.000 Have you ever been up to a house?

02:27:53.000 Have you seen this house?

02:27:53.000 Oh, yeah.

02:27:55.000 Oh, that's sick.

02:27:56.000 I love that house.

02:27:57.000 It's known as the Oakley Founders House.

02:27:59.000 I don't know if he still owns it, but.

02:28:00.000 Yeah, that's up there.

02:28:01.000 That house, I love.

02:28:01.000 Yeah.

02:28:03.000 See, if I was single and a baller, that's where I would live.

02:28:06.000 $210 million.

02:28:09.000 A bargain. 1.00

02:28:12.000 Fucking love that shit. 1.00

02:28:13.000 I see shit like that. 1.00

02:28:14.000 I'm like, oh my God, that's where I love it. 0.99

02:28:17.000 But I don't want to live there for real.

02:28:19.000 I think after a while, you would be like, I'd rather have a log house.

02:28:19.000 Yeah.

02:28:22.000 I was trying to find pictures of Kanye's concrete house, but this is not the one I was looking for specifically.

02:28:27.000 I just love those kind of houses that look like that.

02:28:30.000 Like, especially that one, that circular one.

02:28:33.000 The way you pull into that driveway and the entire back house faces the lights and you see the lights.

02:28:41.000 Like, it's hard to see from photos of how.

02:28:43.000 Look how sick that looks, man. 0.60

02:28:45.000 That's sick.

02:28:47.000 I love that.

02:28:48.000 But the lights from that, like, if you're up in the hills, you want to be above looking down and it's like a movie.

02:28:55.000 It's like a sci fi movie. 0.94

02:28:56.000 It's one of the coolest fucking views I've ever seen. 1.00

02:28:58.000 Polly has the fucking. 1.00

02:29:00.000 As crazy as it sounds, that motherfucker, when he made it, he bought a house that's on top, of the Hollywood Hills with that MTV money. 1.00

02:29:10.000 Dude, it's crazy. 0.99

02:29:12.000 He remodeled it recently when I was there for the festival.

02:29:14.000 He's like, dude, you got to come see the house.

02:29:16.000 Come see the house.

02:29:17.000 I'm like, Polly, I'm so busy.

02:29:19.000 That's very highly unlikely.

02:29:21.000 Come see the house, dude.

02:29:22.000 You got to come to the house. 1.00

02:29:24.000 Sure enough, I went there one afternoon for a fucking coffee. 1.00

02:29:27.000 Bro, it is crazy. 1.00

02:29:29.000 He was right.

02:29:30.000 He's got the house.

02:29:31.000 He did it.

02:29:32.000 It's on top of everything.

02:29:34.000 So there's, if a robber does try to go up there, they're robbing someone else's house. 0.98

02:29:39.000 They don't want to go to the tippy top of the fucking hill. 0.99

02:29:42.000 That's a tough escape. 1.00

02:29:44.000 That's the problem is the escape.

02:29:45.000 Yeah.

02:29:46.000 You want to be close to the bottom.

02:29:48.000 Right.

02:29:48.000 So you can.

02:29:49.000 Speaking of which, I've been watching, I went down a rabbit hole the other day on YouTube where street racers, and there's this one guy who is like a famous street racer because there's all these videos of him.

02:29:49.000 Right.

02:30:03.000 He got his.

02:30:05.000 His thing set up where he can shut the lights off.

02:30:08.000 He's got this black Corvette.

02:30:10.000 I'm gonna send this to you, Jamie.

02:30:11.000 I think I've seen this guy. 0.96

02:30:13.000 Yeah, his name is really slow like R Y L S L O. Um, and he's got videos of these cop encounters, so they like baits cops and then goes on these mad runs. 1.00

02:30:29.000 You watch it, you go, Holy shit! 1.00

02:30:31.000 Oh, I love it. 1.00

02:30:32.000 Cars on the screen.

02:30:33.000 Yes, this is the dude.

02:30:36.000 It's all about him, not just one.

02:30:36.000 Yeah, so.

02:30:38.000 Yeah, this is.

02:30:38.000 Well, he's like a legend online because he does interviews only with a voice changer where it takes his voice and it makes it like that.

02:30:48.000 Where he describes all the modifications that he did to his car.

02:30:51.000 But he puts a 3D camera on the back of his car.

02:30:55.000 And you know, they have those things where you stick it on the back of your car?

02:30:59.000 And it gives you a 3D view of the automobile.

02:31:02.000 And he has video of the cops like flashing their lights.

02:31:06.000 And his car has got a thousand plus horsepower. 0.97

02:31:09.000 So, these poor cops in their like 300 horsepower fucking Crown Victoria, they try to chase this guy and he just disappears. 0.95

02:31:16.000 And then, once he gets out of the line, like, go back to that video where it was before. 0.99

02:31:21.000 Watch this.

02:31:22.000 I mean, it's just edited, it's not his videos.

02:31:25.000 It's just someone.

02:31:26.000 But if you just, I know this video.

02:31:26.000 I understand.

02:31:28.000 But if you, what he does is they start pulling him over.

02:31:31.000 And in the beginning, when they pull him over, he hits the gas and then shuts his lights off.

02:31:36.000 Did you pass that?

02:31:37.000 Yeah, but here it is.

02:31:38.000 So, this is it.

02:31:39.000 So, they hit the lights and he's like, see ya.

02:31:43.000 Are they going to show it?

02:31:45.000 Yes, this is not the.

02:31:45.000 Okay, so it's not the compilation.

02:31:48.000 So when he does it and he hits the gas, he gets far.

02:31:52.000 Here it is.

02:31:52.000 He gets far enough away from them.

02:31:54.000 They're not showing it. 1.00

02:31:55.000 These motherfuckers. 1.00

02:31:57.000 They have to edit their own shit. 1.00

02:31:58.000 Leaving it alone is better. 0.99

02:31:59.000 So he gets ahead of everybody and then just, he has a button where it kills his headlights and he's using night vision.

02:32:06.000 Oh, wow.

02:32:08.000 Yeah.

02:32:08.000 It's nuts.

02:32:09.000 So is this it?

02:32:10.000 Yeah.

02:32:10.000 This is the end of his ghost mode here.

02:32:11.000 Yes.

02:32:12.000 This is it.

02:32:13.000 So this is this guy.

02:32:14.000 So his license plate says, We'll run.

02:32:17.000 Like it's a fake license plate.

02:32:19.000 The cops get up behind him.

02:32:20.000 They hit the lights and he goes, Bye.

02:32:23.000 And the cops realize there's no way to catch this guy.

02:32:26.000 It's not, look at that.

02:32:28.000 Oh.

02:32:28.000 Lights go out and he's gone.

02:32:31.000 And he's flashing lights on people to get them the fuck out of the way and there's no way to catch him.

02:32:35.000 And then he bangs U turns.

02:32:37.000 He knows where he's going.

02:32:38.000 He plots it out.

02:32:40.000 And the thing is, he's filming this and uploading it.

02:32:43.000 Oh, yeah.

02:32:44.000 So he's got to hide his identity through how many different channels?

02:32:47.000 How does Instagram not know who he is?

02:32:49.000 How is he posting?

02:32:50.000 I guess he's using a VPN.

02:32:52.000 He's probably using a proxy and he's probably going through some other country or something if he's smart. 0.99

02:32:57.000 If he's smart enough to avoid detection, but he just has these fucking crazy car builds. 0.98

02:33:04.000 Like, he's got a Calvo Viper that has, I mean, I don't know how many fucking horsepower that thing has. 0.99

02:33:12.000 But they make some of these Calvo Vipers. 0.95

02:33:14.000 It's a company here in Texas.

02:33:15.000 They make Vipers that have 2,000 horsepower. 1.00

02:33:19.000 Damn. 1.00

02:33:19.000 What? 1.00

02:33:20.000 Like, what the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

02:33:22.000 Does anybody know where? 0.99

02:33:23.000 Does he always do it in the same city?

02:33:25.000 I think he's in the Dallas area.

02:33:27.000 How fun. 0.96

02:33:29.000 Yeah, well, not good if you kill somebody.

02:33:31.000 But it's very spooky.

02:33:34.000 Yeah.

02:33:36.000 It's nuts, man. 1.00

02:33:37.000 Because this fucking dude really knows how to drive, too. 1.00

02:33:41.000 And you see these poor cops, and one of them, the cops wipe out. 1.00

02:33:44.000 They slam into another car. 1.00

02:33:45.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:33:46.000 They're trying to pass by these cones, and the road cuts off, and the cop hits the cones, then loses control of his car and slams into another car. 1.00

02:33:53.000 So, like, people can fucking die. 1.00

02:33:56.000 Especially if he runs a red light, and he runs a lot of them, and someone's being an idiot. 1.00

02:34:01.000 Maybe someone's doing exactly what he's doing while he's running the red light. 0.99

02:34:04.000 Dude, you have to see what Kanye's doing right now.

02:34:07.000 It's a historical moment in all of art.

02:34:09.000 It's unbelievable.

02:34:10.000 Yeah, you said he's standing on the globe, right?

02:34:13.000 Well, not only that, the entire everything is a super production, and it's all him.

02:34:20.000 Like you could tell he's made every decision and tweaked everything to the color of everything, to when it happens, to how it happens, that it's not too much.

02:34:30.000 He's not overwhelming the senses with lasers and lights and all of this.

02:34:34.000 It's all.

02:34:35.000 So strategic. 0.97

02:34:37.000 But most importantly, it's first of all, it's the fucking greatest production I've ever seen of anything. 0.91

02:34:43.000 And I come from Pink Floyd land where the live show has to be ahead of its time and state of the art and everything for my mind to be blown. 0.92

02:34:51.000 And I was expecting this to be like every other rap concert that I've seen, which is going to be fun and good and maybe great.

02:34:59.000 Of course, it'll be great.

02:35:00.000 But this was like a thousand times my expectations.

02:35:04.000 Because first of all, he's doing pop up shows at stadiums, which is crazy.

02:35:08.000 He announces it.

02:35:09.000 A week or two in advance, and the stadium's like, okay, we're sitting empty that night.

02:35:13.000 We'd love to sell beer and water and get a percentage of merch, right?

02:35:17.000 How these venues work. 1.00

02:35:18.000 They don't give a fuck. 0.98

02:35:19.000 And he's not promoting it. 0.99

02:35:22.000 Everyone else that's been to one or seen one is promoting it.

02:35:25.000 And then the mayor of whatever city or whatever leftist person, whether it be the governor of that state or whatever, is like, this shouldn't be happening.

02:35:34.000 So they're promoting it for him. 0.99

02:35:36.000 And it's filled to the top of the fucking stadium. 0.99

02:35:39.000 Whereas even Pink. 0.99

02:35:40.000 Floyd or the Rolling Stones or whoever announces a tour all at once and goes, Hey, buy tickets.

02:35:46.000 I'm on tour.

02:35:46.000 Pretty please come.

02:35:47.000 Right?

02:35:48.000 He's just like San Antonio, July 4th.

02:35:52.000 A week ago, literally.

02:35:52.000 Boom.

02:35:54.000 And what's crazy is that my buddy got me tickets to go see him in Tampa because, as all we knew, he was going to Tampa.

02:36:03.000 And so there I was, and I'm looking, and it's filled to the top, and the floor is filled.

02:36:11.000 And he doesn't stop, he doesn't take a break.

02:36:15.000 There it is.

02:36:15.000 I saw that on Instagram after his first one that he did.

02:36:18.000 I think it was in LA.

02:36:19.000 And I'm like, oh, that's crazy.

02:36:21.000 I need to see this.

02:36:23.000 That is nuts.

02:36:24.000 That stage is nuts.

02:36:25.000 But these pictures and videos do not do any justice to what is happening sound wise, energy wise. 0.97

02:36:33.000 Just that stage alone is fucking insane. 0.82

02:36:36.000 It's crazy. 0.96

02:36:37.000 And he enters at the, he walks through the crowd because obviously it's in the round.

02:36:43.000 He comes out and you hear a pop from one side because they can kind of see him.

02:36:47.000 And then the globe turns on and, you know, he waits until it's dark.

02:36:50.000 So he enters at one point and then inside is a, um, A lift that only takes him.

02:37:00.000 So, like, there's no one that can storm that stage or anything because it's inflatable on the outside.

02:37:06.000 So, it's impossible to, you know, storm the stage or anything like that.

02:37:13.000 And he's the only one that has access to the lift, obviously.

02:37:16.000 And he has a tether that he's attached to so that he doesn't go off or anything.

02:37:21.000 So, he doesn't fall into the balloon.

02:37:22.000 Exactly.

02:37:24.000 And it is the most diabolical show I've ever seen in my entire life, ever. 0.99

02:37:28.000 And that includes all the fucking everythings. 0.98

02:37:31.000 And again, I come from the school of Pink Floyd, which is always 10, 20 years ahead of its time, production wise. 0.99

02:37:38.000 And this was fucking nuts because he does not stop. 0.99

02:37:43.000 He does not take a break. 0.99

02:37:44.000 He doesn't go, thank you guys for coming out until the very end, in which he goes, it's all about love.

02:37:49.000 I love you guys.

02:37:50.000 Thanks for sticking with me all these years when all these people said this. 0.80

02:37:53.000 And then by that point, two and a half hours in, when he's saying that, you're just like, you got to be fucking kidding me. 0.71

02:37:58.000 When we realize the bulk of his work, how many bangers that guy has.

02:38:02.000 Oh, it's.

02:38:04.000 Nuts, dude.

02:38:05.000 Bangers. 0.99

02:38:06.000 And I, as an experiment, took my one buddy who said that, you know, part of the group was my one friend who has always been like, I don't know, you fucking love Kanye. 0.77

02:38:16.000 I mean, not really my thing, but he's just not really a rap fan, is the reality. 0.93

02:38:22.000 So I invited him on this trip and his mind was fucking, now he's a diehard Kanye fan.

02:38:27.000 Now he's going back and, you know, realizing that he's always been a Kanye fan. 0.97

02:38:33.000 Like, it's such a crazy fucking thing because not only does he have hits on hits on hits, But he does not stop in between songs because some of his beats kind of correlate or this and that. 0.88

02:38:46.000 He'll literally just keep going and going and going until his amazing album. 0.98

02:38:52.000 On his new album, he has this keyboardist with one of those like crazy blow-in-two tube instrument things.

02:38:59.000 I don't know what it's called, but he has a solo, a big one on one of the songs, which gives Kanye a minute and a half to catch his breath, an hour and a half into non- Stop going.

02:39:13.000 And also, on top of all that, you know, a rap concert's a rap concert.

02:39:17.000 Kanye's the greatest producer of all time in that industry.

02:39:21.000 So every noise that's happening, even if he's not talking or singing or rapping into a microphone, is all him and him only.

02:39:32.000 You know what I mean?

02:39:33.000 Like he might get an idea or an inspiration, as we've talked about, or he's a master of sampling old hit songs and having them be in the backbone of the thing and everything.

02:39:44.000 But this is.

02:39:45.000 It's just a whole nother level. 0.99

02:39:47.000 Damn. 1.00

02:39:47.000 Absolute insanity. 1.00

02:39:49.000 Like, I thought I was going to go there and be like, yeah, and maybe, you know, move a little bit or sing along or whatever.

02:39:54.000 And instead, my jaw was dropped the entire time.

02:39:57.000 Is there anybody that ever bounced back from being canceled like him?

02:40:01.000 And that's really the underlying thing.

02:40:03.000 There's this feeling of loyalty that's there.

02:40:07.000 And we're right.

02:40:09.000 You know what I mean?

02:40:10.000 There's a feeling that everybody there is like, they're correct.

02:40:15.000 Does that make sense?

02:40:16.000 Yeah.

02:40:16.000 I saw a breakdown of it because my algorithms.

02:40:19.000 Feeding me Kanye stuff nonstop since I went to it because somehow fucking Instagram knows and whatever.

02:40:25.000 And I watched a breakdown of it talking about how, like, it's like this psychiatrist or energy specialist or something that's talking about how and why this is the craziest concert ever done before. 0.88

02:40:38.000 And she breaks it down and goes, People that like Kanye believe in themselves because if Kanye's saying, I'm the greatest, I'm the man, I'm a god, all of these things.

02:40:53.000 Makes you not like him and you insecure, you're insecure.

02:40:58.000 Does that make sense?

02:41:00.000 Like, it's like he, if that turns you off to somebody, then you don't really like yourself that much.

02:41:06.000 Why do you think that?

02:41:08.000 Well, again, this was someone else's psychological breakdown of it, and I'm probably not explaining it correct because I was stoned on a couch.

02:41:14.000 I see what they would be saying to try to defend him, but there's some people that just get turned off by that kind of braggadocious rap music.

02:41:24.000 I don't.

02:41:25.000 Right. 1.00

02:41:25.000 I love that shit. 1.00

02:41:27.000 I love 90s hip hop talking about how great they are. 1.00

02:41:31.000 I love it.

02:41:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:41:33.000 I'm a giant fan of that shit. 1.00

02:41:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:41:34.000 You know, I think like some of my favorite rap lyrics, like some of Nas's lyrics, just him talking about how he's the shit. 1.00

02:41:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:41:41.000 Totally. 1.00

02:41:43.000 I don't mind it at all.

02:41:44.000 But it's like, it's when you're singing along to that stuff and you're listening to that stuff, like you're feeling what that guy's feeling when he's saying it.

02:41:53.000 And if his raps are hit, if his rhymes are really hitting, especially like, Kanye or any of the greats, you know, Biggie, Tupac, Nas, like when they're nailed, it's like, boo!

02:42:04.000 Oh my God.

02:42:06.000 With good lyrics and good execution.

02:42:06.000 Oh!

02:42:09.000 It's a fucking amazing art form, even if USAID really did create it. 0.99

02:42:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:42:15.000 I don't want to believe that.

02:42:18.000 You know, I think they probably promoted it.

02:42:21.000 What's really interesting is the lack of big rock and roll bands.

02:42:25.000 I know Jamie's kind of defended this, but I think it's a fact.

02:42:28.000 Oh, no, no doubt.

02:42:29.000 There's less big rock and roll bands than when we were a kid.

02:42:32.000 When we were a kid, rock and roll was everything.

02:42:35.000 It was like rock and roll.

02:42:36.000 And if you like rock and rap, like you are a weirdo, you know?

02:42:40.000 Like I really became a rap fan, like almost like silently, like secretly.

02:42:40.000 Yeah.

02:42:47.000 Because you had to be a rock fan.

02:42:50.000 If you loved rock music and you went to rock concerts, like that's all you liked.

02:42:54.000 But I was like, yeah, but this is good too.

02:42:55.000 Oh, yeah.

02:42:56.000 You know, I'd like to listen to Ghetto Boys.

02:42:57.000 I'd be like, you got to listen to this.

02:42:58.000 Come listen to this. 1.00

02:42:59.000 Shit is awesome. 1.00

02:43:00.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:43:01.000 Oh, my range is absolutely ridiculous.

02:43:04.000 Well, our green rooms.

02:43:05.000 I just got Roy Orbison on vinyl.

02:43:09.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:43:10.000 Pretty Woman.

02:43:11.000 Oh, my God. 0.96

02:43:12.000 And again, that's one.

02:43:13.000 We're going to be in trouble for that? 1.00

02:43:15.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:43:15.000 Probably. 1.00

02:43:17.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:43:19.000 And again, Pretty Woman, much like Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here, is like one of my. 0.99

02:43:23.000 When you get into their radio stuff, it's kind of funny how some bands and musicians get typecasted by their hit.

02:43:31.000 Whereas Pretty Woman's kind of repetitive and easy, even though it's a jam.

02:43:35.000 Right. 0.94

02:43:35.000 Mm hmm. 0.94

02:43:36.000 But his other songs that, like, I hadn't even heard before because I'm like, this guy seems like he has some fucking hits. 0.96

02:43:43.000 And he does, man.

02:43:45.000 And, you know, what I mean by the Pink Floyd thing is it always fascinated me that people go, Oh, yeah, I like Pink Floyd.

02:43:53.000 Another brick in the wall.

02:43:53.000 Wish you were here.

02:43:54.000 And it's like, damn it. 0.98

02:43:56.000 It's because those are their radio songs because they can't play an 11 minute long shine on you, crazy diamond or all their real hits that they're real. 0.99

02:44:05.000 Echoes, which is like 17 minutes and goes slow and fast and bluesy and then jazzy and this and that.

02:44:13.000 Um, Yeah, there were so many songs like that, especially from like the 70s, where they just took wild chances and had long ass songs.

02:44:21.000 Like famously, Freebird.

02:44:24.000 Like record executives were telling them, like, the beginning of it is too slow.

02:44:27.000 And they're like, nope.

02:44:27.000 Yep.

02:44:29.000 This is the song.

02:44:30.000 Exactly.

02:44:31.000 This is what it is.

02:44:32.000 Bohemian Rhapsody.

02:44:33.000 Yep.

02:44:34.000 There's another one.

02:44:35.000 Yeah.

02:44:36.000 Whole Lot of Love.

02:44:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:44:37.000 Whole Lot of Love has a minute and a half of fuck sounds. 1.00

02:44:39.000 Mm hmm. 1.00

02:44:40.000 Ah, ah, ah, ah. 1.00

02:44:43.000 And cymbals and shit. 0.99

02:44:44.000 It's weird. 0.98

02:44:44.000 I only recently got to see the Queen movie. 0.98

02:44:48.000 Whatever that is, is that Bohemian Rhapsody?

02:44:51.000 Whatever they call it.

02:44:51.000 I believe so.

02:44:52.000 I haven't seen it.

02:44:53.000 Yeah.

02:44:53.000 Well, I walked in on a part where it's the rec, they're at the record executive's office, and he's going, This can't be the main single off of this thing.

02:45:04.000 And Freddie Mercury's like, Dude, it fucking has.

02:45:07.000 And I'm obviously not quoting this, but, and the record exec's like, Man, you're saying gibberish at points. 0.98

02:45:16.000 It's slow with a piano.

02:45:18.000 You're saying things that don't even make sense. 0.99

02:45:21.000 And it's fucking eight minutes long. 0.99

02:45:23.000 Like, what are you thinking? 0.99

02:45:24.000 And they're arguing back and forth and back and forth.

02:45:27.000 And his bass player, guitarist, or one of the guys that's in the meeting with this record exec sitting behind a big fancy desk points at the wall and goes, So you were the record exec that made this, huh?

02:45:37.000 And he points at Dark Side of the Moon. 0.99

02:45:39.000 And you see the record exec go, Oh, fuck. 1.00

02:45:43.000 Because what the fuck was that? 1.00

02:45:45.000 It starts with a heartbeat, has no words for the first, however long. 0.99

02:45:51.000 Also, what is the deal with it aligning with the Wizard of Oz?

02:45:53.000 Crazy. 0.81

02:45:54.000 Crazy. 0.93

02:45:55.000 Roger says it's just coincidental.

02:45:58.000 I know.

02:45:59.000 But it seems like the universe organized it.

02:46:01.000 Yeah.

02:46:01.000 It almost seems like evidence of the simulation.

02:46:04.000 Yep.

02:46:04.000 Because it's so good.

02:46:06.000 The way it lines up, it's too good.

02:46:08.000 I've always said it's the craziest coincidence of all times.

02:46:12.000 I feel like it's evidence of the simulation.

02:46:15.000 There's something about it.

02:46:16.000 There's evidence of some weird, bizarre synchronicity between those two pieces of art.

02:46:20.000 Yeah, producing that would have been near impossible.

02:46:23.000 Impossible.

02:46:24.000 Not like you couldn't, but just.

02:46:25.000 The amount of planning and figuring things out with technology then would have been so hard to do.

02:46:30.000 Yeah, so hard.

02:46:32.000 Pink Floyd would have had to, they would have literally have to watch it and then go over each beat and decide.

02:46:39.000 How high was the person that figured it out, too?

02:46:41.000 Right, right.

02:46:42.000 We can discuss, but like, how do you notice that?

02:46:45.000 Hold on.

02:46:47.000 It's 45 minutes.

02:46:47.000 It's still going.

02:46:48.000 But meanwhile, it's perfect.

02:46:50.000 Like, we've watched it before.

02:46:52.000 It's perfect.

02:46:53.000 The lyrics are the scariest part.

02:46:55.000 God.

02:46:56.000 Which one is which at one point when only when the only moment when both the good witch and the bad witch are there?

02:47:04.000 Yeah, it's nuts.

02:47:05.000 And the wildest one to me is always when she's balancing on the thing, you know, in black and white and with the other farmers around and on the run, that crazy blah starts and she falls off at that exact moment and chaos is happening.

02:47:20.000 It's crazy.

02:47:22.000 Is there a why in that conspiracy?

02:47:24.000 You know, like why would they have done that just to do it?

02:47:27.000 Just for funsies.

02:47:28.000 Just because they were Pink Floyd.

02:47:30.000 Yeah.

02:47:31.000 There's a lot of numbers you could have picked.

02:47:32.000 Well, I mean, Roger Waters says it was an accident.

02:47:35.000 I know, I'm just saying, like.

02:47:36.000 I know, I know.

02:47:37.000 The conspiracy theorists.

02:47:38.000 I don't know.

02:47:39.000 I mean, I would imagine they think that.

02:47:42.000 The people that believed that it was some sort of a coordinated conspiracy, it's like, why wouldn't they say that?

02:47:48.000 Why wouldn't they just say we lined it up with The Wizard of Oz?

02:47:52.000 Yeah, if they said that, it would make more people watch it and more people listen.

02:47:56.000 Well, they did pretty good off of it.

02:47:58.000 Yeah, they did pretty good.

02:48:00.000 Who are we to give them advice?

02:48:02.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:48:02.000 Speaking of doing pretty good, you're fucking killing it, dude. 1.00

02:48:04.000 Congratulations. 0.99

02:48:05.000 Thank you, buddy.

02:48:06.000 It's awesome watching it all.

02:48:07.000 Thank you, man.

02:48:08.000 You're taking all the hits.

02:48:09.000 Keep on moving, keep on trucking.

02:48:10.000 Just makes it stronger.

02:48:11.000 On to the next one.

02:48:12.000 Makes the jokes better.

02:48:13.000 New jokes are killing it.

02:48:14.000 Yeah.

02:48:15.000 Yeah, it's fun.

02:48:16.000 We're having a good time.

02:48:17.000 Tuesdays and Wednesdays are the best working them out at the mothership.

02:48:17.000 Yeah.

02:48:20.000 Yes, sir.

02:48:21.000 All right.

02:48:21.000 I appreciate you, brother.

02:48:22.000 Thank you, man.

02:48:23.000 Hell yeah.

02:48:23.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 02, 2026

Joe Rogan Experience #2522 - Tony Hinchcliffe

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