The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2523 - Ali Siddiq

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00:00:09.000 What's happening?

00:00:14.000 Good to see you.

00:00:15.000 Same.

00:00:16.000 We were just talking, so I had to pause Jamie before the podcast.

00:00:21.000 So you were telling me that LeBron James is not going to go back to the Lakers.

00:00:25.000 How old is he now?

00:00:26.000 41.

00:00:29.000 41.

00:00:31.000 What is the oldest that an elite athlete has been?

00:00:35.000 Tom Brady's 44, I think, NFL QB.

00:00:38.000 That'd be pretty high up there.

00:00:41.000 How was Kareem?

00:00:43.000 That's a good question.

00:00:44.000 How was Kareem when he retired?

00:00:45.000 Bernard Hopkins, I think, would be the next.

00:00:47.000 Bernard Hopkins is number one.

00:00:49.000 Yeah, Bernard definitely.

00:00:50.000 We were talking about how he beat Kelly Pavlich at 42.

00:00:54.000 But Bernard had a couple of years to incubate a little bit.

00:00:59.000 Oh, yeah.

00:00:59.000 Well, you know about that.

00:01:02.000 Yeah.

00:01:03.000 Not take damage and steal up the mind.

00:01:07.000 He had the most intense discipline.

00:01:09.000 That guy never got out of shape, which is also a giant contributor to longevity.

00:01:15.000 Never was building back.

00:01:17.000 He wasn't like a 42 year old who was like, he took six months off.

00:01:21.000 I haven't been in the gym.

00:01:23.000 No, no, no.

00:01:24.000 Every day it was running, nutrition, everything was always on point.

00:01:29.000 It never varied.

00:01:29.000 Kareem was like 42, I think.

00:01:31.000 So he might be the oldest of the past guys, but this was before all the science.

00:01:37.000 Right?

00:01:38.000 Yeah, the science changes things.

00:01:40.000 The science.

00:01:41.000 So, we were just talking about the science.

00:01:42.000 So, Jamie, what are they allowed to take and not allowed to take?

00:01:45.000 I don't know.

00:01:47.000 It's like the NBA used to, I think, for weed stuff, they used to say that they'd get tested, I think, October 1st, which is right when preseason starts.

00:01:55.000 For weed?

00:01:56.000 Yeah.

00:01:56.000 And so, as long as you were clean on October 1st, then you're good because they wouldn't test the rest of the year.

00:02:02.000 That's ridiculous.

00:02:04.000 But now, I know in the NFL, if you have a crazy game, you're going to get tested the next day. 0.81

00:02:09.000 They're just going to check you for.

00:02:11.000 What was going on with you yesterday?

00:02:12.000 Yeah, why would you play good? 0.99

00:02:14.000 Ridiculous. 0.83

00:02:14.000 I don't think the NBA does that specifically, but I don't know, honestly. 0.83

00:02:19.000 So, what are the rules in the NBA in terms of marijuana now?

00:02:22.000 I thought that was part of the thing that they negotiated in the contract to make sure, because a lot of players like to be high when they play.

00:02:29.000 I think they might just have stopped testing for it, is all.

00:02:33.000 I want to mention names, but I'm friends with some guys, and they tell me they can't play unless they're high.

00:02:40.000 That's the same thing with pool players.

00:02:41.000 I know a lot of pool players, they like to get lit.

00:02:44.000 Before they get on the table, yeah, pool.

00:02:46.000 Pool, you should be lit playing pool.

00:02:49.000 Yeah, you feel things better.

00:02:51.000 Here we go.

00:02:51.000 NBA can randomly drug test each player up to four times during the season and two times in the offseason, with additional tests allowed anytime there is reasonable cause.

00:03:00.000 But marijuana is no longer part of the standard testing panel, yes, sir.

00:03:05.000 Yeah, so they can smoke weed, which makes sense.

00:03:07.000 Let them, it's not what are you doing?

00:03:09.000 It's not hurting anybody, and they play better with it.

00:03:13.000 I think, leave them alone.

00:03:15.000 That's what I think.

00:03:16.000 Unless they're doing meth, unless they're doing, you know what I mean?

00:03:20.000 They also had another big betting scandal that's kind of broken recently in the last 24 hours there.

00:03:27.000 Oh, no.

00:03:27.000 Where a player has been called out for throwing at least four games.

00:03:33.000 And then where that's going to go from here is kind of being speculated online.

00:03:37.000 I'll tell you where that goes.

00:03:38.000 If people find out, it goes to bullets.

00:03:41.000 That's the problem. 1.00

00:03:42.000 The problem with someone throwing a game is somebody bet on that fucking game. 0.99

00:03:46.000 A lot of people bet on that game. 0.99

00:03:47.000 The cases I've seen, though, are like the overs.

00:03:50.000 Like they had player props, and like he needed 4.5 rebounds, and he has four, and he's just trying extremely, extremely, extremely hard to get that extra rebound, which is like, well, that's wrong.

00:04:00.000 Wait a minute.

00:04:01.000 That means he's playing well.

00:04:02.000 And the other one, which was he was fixing a spread at like in the last second, like he sprinted down the court to get an extra basket with like three seconds on the clock when they were down by 10 or seven technically to beat the eight and a half point spread.

00:04:15.000 Yeah, but so what?

00:04:16.000 He's just scoring.

00:04:18.000 How can you ever?

00:04:19.000 It's just that it's when you watch basketball enough, you go like that doesn't happen that often.

00:04:23.000 Why would you do that?

00:04:24.000 Yeah, especially.

00:04:25.000 Yeah, you're used to people throwing the ball and just throwing it down there, not you running down.

00:04:32.000 I know, but if you can do it and score.

00:04:34.000 Why wouldn't you do it?

00:04:35.000 I don't even understand why anybody would question that.

00:04:37.000 You're down by 10.

00:04:39.000 It's five seconds to go.

00:04:40.000 The game's over. 1.00

00:04:40.000 Fuck you. 1.00

00:04:41.000 I want that ball in the net. 1.00

00:04:42.000 Fuck you. 1.00

00:04:43.000 Man. 1.00

00:04:44.000 Woof.

00:04:45.000 No.

00:04:46.000 Why?

00:04:47.000 Because that's not going to change.

00:04:49.000 Oh, we lost by eight.

00:04:51.000 But it just means you're competitive to the end.

00:04:55.000 You never give up, even though you know you're losing.

00:04:57.000 And no starters on the floor at this time.

00:05:00.000 You're down by 10.

00:05:01.000 It's five seconds to go.

00:05:03.000 No starters on the floor.

00:05:04.000 Yeah, but it's not like he's missing on purpose.

00:05:07.000 So, it's one thing if the guy's like missing on purpose, but if he's scoring on purpose, leave him out. 1.00

00:05:12.000 Fuck alone. 1.00

00:05:13.000 All right. 1.00

00:05:14.000 So, similar thing.

00:05:15.000 World Cup just happened like two, three nights ago where they just got under the knockout round, you know, so that the big tournament was every team plays three games to figure out where you figure or where you end up to play the next part of the tournament.

00:05:27.000 Ten teams get eliminated.

00:05:28.000 Uh huh.

00:05:29.000 Third place teams for the first time ever can make it through.

00:05:32.000 And so, there was a, I think it was Algeria, and I forget the other team.

00:05:35.000 Sorry.

00:05:36.000 But if they both tied, they both moved through.

00:05:40.000 If one team wins and one team loses, one team goes through.

00:05:44.000 And then, with four minutes to go in the game, they're kind of just passing the ball around.

00:05:48.000 The score is tied, and one team goes ahead and scores. 1.00

00:05:51.000 And it kind of starts a fight on the field where you see the other team yelling at the other team, like, fuck you. 0.99

00:05:56.000 I don't know exactly what they're saying, but like, what? 0.99

00:05:59.000 And then, with like two minutes to go, the other team sort of just stops playing defense and kind of seems to let them score.

00:06:06.000 Oh, God.

00:06:08.000 It's like, I don't know if it's a big collusion or if they just sort of made an agreement.

00:06:13.000 How do you.

00:06:14.000 Don't they have mics on those guys?

00:06:17.000 It's such a crazy thing.

00:06:18.000 They have to have mics on somebody.

00:06:19.000 They have strong mics now, and they have people that can lip read. 0.99

00:06:23.000 They can pick up, hey, motherfucker, you're supposed to leave this a tie. 0.99

00:06:27.000 If that happens, you can't play anymore, right? 0.99

00:06:30.000 What happens to those guys?

00:06:31.000 They have to get suspended for.

00:06:32.000 That'd be both teams, the coaches, it'd be everybody.

00:06:35.000 I don't know.

00:06:37.000 I don't really know how it's going to pan out, but it was very.

00:06:39.000 What a conundrum.

00:06:42.000 How could you do that?

00:06:44.000 Like, I hate that.

00:06:47.000 This is what I don't like about sports betting.

00:06:49.000 Not that, because that's about advancing, but about sports betting is even the consideration that a person is playing a certain way because they're worried about a spread or because they've been paid off to not score or they've been paid off to foul.

00:07:04.000 You know, like, there's the problem with these things you can bet on anything.

00:07:09.000 You can bet on anything.

00:07:10.000 Anything.

00:07:12.000 Anything. 0.98

00:07:12.000 So if you're a crooked and. 0.98

00:07:15.000 What has been like the most crooked aspect of the fucking human race over the past like 100 years, other than the legal system? 0.99

00:07:23.000 The most crooked aspect has been sports betting. 0.99

00:07:26.000 It's always crooked.

00:07:27.000 Sports and politics. 0.77

00:07:29.000 Yeah, they damn near.

00:07:30.000 They're all the same.

00:07:31.000 Yeah, they're the same.

00:07:31.000 It's the same.

00:07:32.000 It's money.

00:07:33.000 It's anytime there's money involved, and decisions can be shifted, influence can be used to make something happen.

00:07:39.000 But it seems like that with most things that people, you know, have some type of.

00:07:47.000 You know, hierarchy desire for.

00:07:49.000 They 100% they're gonna put something in, you know, like even with like awards in games.

00:07:56.000 This is a who can promote the best.

00:08:00.000 And who can, if you can take all the people that vote to dinner and, you know, smews them at dinner, it's going to be a thing where who's going to beat you when you have all the voters?

00:08:17.000 Right.

00:08:18.000 Or you have a situation where you have people that work for your company that can vote.

00:08:23.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:08:25.000 How are you not going to vote for the project that the company put out?

00:08:29.000 Right.

00:08:30.000 We got 60 voters, you know, so we at least got 60 votes.

00:08:35.000 I think you said it best when you said the hierarchy.

00:08:37.000 That's really what it is.

00:08:38.000 It's in anything that has any kind of a hierarchy.

00:08:40.000 Politics is the ultimate example.

00:08:42.000 Politics is the ultimate example. 0.99

00:08:45.000 But there's that hierarchy shit in everything in the world. 0.99

00:08:49.000 Everything. 1.00

00:08:50.000 And it trips people up.

00:08:51.000 But with politics, it is a little more detrimental than with sports.

00:08:57.000 You know, sports is, you know, you gambling, people trying to win things.

00:09:00.000 But with politics, it's like.

00:09:04.000 If you're not, somebody that's not qualified can be in a position where, you know, they're making decisions on the masses of people's lives.

00:09:16.000 Not just that, they can appoint judges.

00:09:19.000 Which is. 0.99

00:09:19.000 They can appoint crazy judges. 0.99

00:09:21.000 Like, there's obviously judges, like, they have disputes.

00:09:24.000 Well, why do they have disputes?

00:09:25.000 Because they're ideologically captured on both sides.

00:09:29.000 There's people that are like, you know, like, certain right wing judges.

00:09:32.000 You throw some case out there that's a right wing case.

00:09:36.000 Abortion rights, whatever it is, immigration, you know how they're going to vote.

00:09:40.000 Same thing with left wing people. 0.96

00:09:41.000 Like hardcore left wing people, you guarantee trans women in sports, trans women are women. 1.00

00:09:46.000 Let them play in sports.

00:09:48.000 That was a recent Supreme Court order. 0.95

00:09:49.000 Three judges said that trans women should be able to play in women's sports. 1.00

00:09:54.000 The rest of them said, fuck no. 1.00

00:09:55.000 The other six canceled it out, luckily. 0.99

00:09:58.000 And, you know, those people are not taking into account the sport.

00:10:02.000 Like, it's a difference if you are.

00:10:06.000 Was originally something, and now you're playing as something else, your strength is different.

00:10:11.000 Everything's different. 0.78

00:10:12.000 And you don't feel that until your daughter gets knocked out the ring where she's supposed to be boxing somebody that's the same gender, and then now her whole side of her face broke. 0.97

00:10:23.000 It's insane. 0.93

00:10:24.000 It's insane.

00:10:25.000 And it's not cruel to not let that happen in sports.

00:10:27.000 That's what Title IX is about in the first place.

00:10:29.000 Give women the opportunity to play in an equal time as men. 0.87

00:10:35.000 That's a good thing.

00:10:36.000 Having men that think they're women play with women is cruel. 1.00

00:10:39.000 Fucking crazy. 1.00

00:10:40.000 Like, what do we, it doesn't mean you know, you need to cast those people out of society. 1.00

00:10:44.000 It doesn't mean ain't that you live and let live.

00:10:46.000 I agree. 1.00

00:10:48.000 But get the fuck out of the women's room. 1.00

00:10:50.000 You're not, you're not, you have a dick. 1.00

00:10:51.000 If you get the fuck off the team, you're, you're running track at a literal, a women's Olympic level and you're 15. 1.00

00:10:59.000 Why? 1.00

00:10:59.000 Because you have a dick. 1.00

00:11:00.000 This is crazy. 1.00

00:11:01.000 You're not really a girl. 1.00

00:11:02.000 This is nuts. 0.99

00:11:03.000 You know, that's the, that's the world we live in.

00:11:06.000 And, oh, well, that's, nah, I'm not even gonna say that's the world we live in.

00:11:09.000 That's the world that's being presented to us at this point.

00:11:12.000 That's right.

00:11:13.000 You know, and it's, you know, it's a lot of things is like this, man.

00:11:16.000 You, this is why in comedy, I choose not to go the current, the current affair or the political route.

00:11:27.000 Because I don't have time to separate the room.

00:11:29.000 I'm too busy trying to do things to bring the room together.

00:11:33.000 And that's more of a righteous aim for me.

00:11:38.000 Well, you, I said this before, also I'll say it live publicly.

00:11:41.000 What you've done is very extraordinary because you've made a giant.

00:11:45.000 Following online completely organically.

00:11:48.000 It's very inspiring because all you do is just do your thing the best that you can and put it out there and it just keeps growing.

00:11:55.000 It's amazing.

00:11:57.000 It's very cool.

00:11:57.000 It's very inspirational.

00:11:59.000 And you should be proud of it because what you've done, like I said, it's totally organic.

00:12:05.000 Like, you don't have a bunch of production companies pushing you and trying to make you more popular than you are.

00:12:11.000 No, it's all just putting it out there and getting this gigantic following just from your work.

00:12:18.000 Just the work.

00:12:19.000 Appreciate it.

00:12:19.000 And then, you know, even with that, you still have some type of responsibility to.

00:12:27.000 Not see things the same as other people.

00:12:30.000 Like, I just got all this flack about me talking about how this business of people inflating things has caused depression in comics.

00:12:43.000 You know, that we're supposed to be a happy craft, but now it's this big push about if you're not on social media, you're not on this, you're not on it.

00:12:52.000 A lot of these comics are, you know, going through this mental health thing where they always sad about their numbers, you know.

00:13:00.000 Or this, that, and the third.

00:13:01.000 Like, yo, man, it is a thing, and some people inflate things, and everybody wants to be on the same level.

00:13:09.000 So sometimes you can't be, oh, well, you can, but people look at it as a certain way where when you're proud of the steps that you've taken, and if I played in the G League, that's not the NBA.

00:13:26.000 So I wouldn't say that I played in the league because I know what the league means.

00:13:30.000 I know.

00:13:32.000 I know this says this is the G League, but when I present myself, yo, you know I play in the league.

00:13:38.000 People automatically think the NBA.

00:13:40.000 It's not, the G League is not knocking the G League, but that's not the first thing that comes to my mind.

00:13:49.000 It's just playing for the Washington Generals is not the NBA.

00:13:55.000 Even though you played against the Globetrotters, they were great players.

00:13:59.000 But we know how this game goes.

00:14:01.000 But that's how people see things now.

00:14:04.000 Well, the number thing is real.

00:14:06.000 The numbers thing is a real problem with people because it gives you a quantifiable measure of whether or not you're doing well.

00:14:14.000 And if you already have anxiety, which a lot of comedians have, you're already socially awkward, which a lot of comedians are, you don't feel accepted, which is how a lot of comedians feel.

00:14:24.000 And then you look at those numbers, you're like, 2,400.

00:14:28.000 I only have 2,400 followers?

00:14:29.000 I've been doing comedy for seven years.

00:14:31.000 Why do I only have 2,400 followers?

00:14:32.000 And then you go to someone's page that you never even heard of, and they have 1.2 million. 0.99

00:14:35.000 You're like, what the fuck? 0.98

00:14:38.000 And so this is about being grateful in the position that you're in. 0.99

00:14:45.000 I remember when they were, people were pushing me, oh, you need to get on the internet, you need to be on social media.

00:14:51.000 Okay.

00:14:52.000 But I would see those people that had all those followers.

00:14:56.000 And that same year, the year before that, I did a half hour special with Comedy Central.

00:15:01.000 Then, year 2018, I did a full hour special with Comedy Central.

00:15:06.000 I had.

00:15:08.000 500 followers on Instagram.

00:15:12.000 I had 300 followers, 300 subscribers on YouTube on a page that I didn't own.

00:15:18.000 I had to fight to get this page.

00:15:20.000 I had less people on Facebook, but I was efficient in what I was doing.

00:15:27.000 So the numbers didn't, they didn't pick me because I had these numbers.

00:15:32.000 They picked me because I came and I did what I did.

00:15:36.000 And then they, oh, he's great.

00:15:38.000 So then we started.

00:15:40.000 Going, you know, a route to build it up, but we were already getting things prior to the numbers.

00:15:46.000 Right.

00:15:47.000 What year is this again?

00:15:48.000 This is 17 and 18.

00:15:50.000 Okay.

00:15:50.000 So, the difference is that in 17 and 18, people were just starting to be aware of the power of social media, and then they were really concentrating on different comics that had a large social media following.

00:16:06.000 You know, I think that was like right when it first started happening.

00:16:09.000 Dane Cook had blew up before that.

00:16:11.000 That was a MySpace thing.

00:16:12.000 That was a MySpace thing.

00:16:14.000 Another internet thing.

00:16:15.000 That's true.

00:16:16.000 That was different.

00:16:17.000 But the difference is, like, he had gotten so huge just from that that he was already doing, like, arenas.

00:16:23.000 Yeah.

00:16:24.000 And.

00:16:24.000 When they, so he was already huge and then they just went with him.

00:16:28.000 But he was like super popular.

00:16:30.000 Now it's like super popular on social media is one of the most important things.

00:16:35.000 So now, moving up to this, because I have a strong arm with this.

00:16:40.000 So I have a million followers here, a million followers there, all these specials.

00:16:45.000 I still didn't get invited to the BET Awards.

00:16:49.000 I still don't get invited to a bunch of things.

00:16:51.000 I still get looked over for things, even though I have numbers of success.

00:16:55.000 But I don't worry about it.

00:16:56.000 I'm just in my, I'm not watching.

00:16:59.000 To judge myself against what somebody else is doing, it's guys who have less everything, but they're in this realm where they had everything.

00:17:09.000 I see guys that are at everything with no specials and no proven thing.

00:17:16.000 They just are around.

00:17:18.000 And I'm like, okay.

00:17:19.000 But I think the point that I'm not judging myself up against what somebody is doing socially.

00:17:26.000 But that's also easier when you're successful and you're successful.

00:17:31.000 You're very successful.

00:17:32.000 So the difference is like when you sell out these shows and you put out these specials, like I've seen your specials, they have millions of views.

00:17:38.000 So it's like obviously you have a following.

00:17:41.000 If you didn't and you were doing the same thing, then it would be a problem.

00:17:45.000 But then also, that would, it's like comedy in a lot of ways, not always, but in a lot of ways, is a meritocracy.

00:17:52.000 If you're good, people will come.

00:17:54.000 It's that simple.

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00:19:10.000 But I also have no desire to inflate things and compare myself to somebody or make myself seem like I'm more than what it is.

00:19:24.000 Like, guys are, hey man, I'm at this room.

00:19:27.000 I got 50 tickets sold.

00:19:31.000 Okay.

00:19:32.000 How much the room seat?

00:19:34.000 The room seat 300.

00:19:35.000 Okay, cool.

00:19:36.000 You have 50 people more than if you didn't play the room.

00:19:41.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:19:42.000 Because who knows you in Utah?

00:19:45.000 It's a building thing.

00:19:47.000 Like, I got all of this going on.

00:19:51.000 But if I go to Utah, I'm in a comedy club.

00:19:56.000 It doesn't matter what happened the night before.

00:19:58.000 I was just in the arena.

00:19:59.000 But in Utah, it's like, it takes me back to on Trading Places.

00:20:04.000 He said, hey man, this is, he gave all this elaborate what this watch is.

00:20:09.000 And that man said, this is what this calls in St. Louis.

00:20:13.000 Like, I don't care about you pawning the watch.

00:20:15.000 Right.

00:20:15.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:20:15.000 So, I don't have that.

00:20:19.000 And I'm not, if I, it's like you own a club, okay?

00:20:23.000 It's guys that can come to your club and sell your club out, and then it's guys that come to the club and you paper the room, okay?

00:20:32.000 Then it's guys, like when you're in the theater, you can scale a theater down.

00:20:38.000 Some theaters hold 4,600 people, but you can scale it down to 2,000, but then the, I'm not going to say if the room holds 4,600.

00:20:50.000 I put 2,000 tickets on sale.

00:20:53.000 I didn't sell out the theater.

00:20:57.000 I sold what I put on sale.

00:20:59.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:21:00.000 Because I'm not to the point where I can get the 4,600 yet.

00:21:03.000 If I could sell the room out, then I would need to relish the real accomplishment versus the lesser accomplishment.

00:21:11.000 Inflating.

00:21:12.000 Yeah.

00:21:13.000 And that's.

00:21:15.000 And because I don't have this thing where I'm in competition.

00:21:20.000 With what happened before me.

00:21:22.000 You know, so.

00:21:23.000 With other people.

00:21:24.000 So I'm in San Antonio.

00:21:26.000 We at the theater.

00:21:29.000 And because people can make you feel bad about anything.

00:21:32.000 If you, a person that feels bad, just think Minnesota, it's all these people that's on the team that play for the Boston Celtics that are millionaires.

00:21:45.000 They already millionaires.

00:21:46.000 They play in the league.

00:21:48.000 Boston traded seven people.

00:21:52.000 To Minnesota for one person.

00:21:56.000 Kevin Garnett.

00:21:58.000 They got rid of seven human beings for one person.

00:22:03.000 So it's like, if I was a person that felt bad about my career, this would make me feel bad.

00:22:09.000 Like, the first person that they asked, okay, I'm gonna trade this person for that person.

00:22:13.000 They're like, no.

00:22:13.000 Well, I'm gonna give you two more people.

00:22:15.000 They're like, no.

00:22:17.000 And then, I'm gonna give you four more people.

00:22:20.000 Okay.

00:22:21.000 And a lottery pick.

00:22:23.000 Okay, I'm gonna feel horrible.

00:22:26.000 They traded me for seven people.

00:22:27.000 Y'all didn't even want me, realistically.

00:22:30.000 So, Boston went, they got Kevin Gornett.

00:22:34.000 I mean, yeah, Kevin Gornett and seven other millionaires.

00:22:39.000 They got all this money, they went to Minnesota.

00:22:43.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:22:44.000 So, if somebody wanted to make you feel bad about something, you know, they could if that's how you are.

00:22:51.000 So, I'm in San Antonio.

00:22:53.000 The line is around the block.

00:22:56.000 The place is sold out.

00:22:57.000 It's the same sellout.

00:22:59.000 No matter who comes there, it's sold out.

00:23:00.000 That lady said to my face tomorrow, You should have saw it when Matt Rife came.

00:23:08.000 I was like, In my mind, I was like, And I asked, I said, Was it a different theater?

00:23:12.000 She said, No, same theater.

00:23:15.000 So when Matt Rife came, he sold it out.

00:23:18.000 I sold it out two nights.

00:23:19.000 I mean, two days in the same night.

00:23:21.000 But her thing was, You should have saw it when Matt Rife came.

00:23:25.000 I was like, Okay.

00:23:26.000 She probably wanted you to feel bad.

00:23:28.000 I was like, but I'm not good for you.

00:23:31.000 But good for you.

00:23:31.000 But the thing is, a lot of people would.

00:23:33.000 That's what it is.

00:23:34.000 A lot of people are in competition with other people.

00:23:37.000 I think you should be inspired by other people.

00:23:39.000 You know, if you want to compete in that way, be inspired. 1.00

00:23:42.000 But the moment you turn it into a negative, it's like, you're a fool. 1.00

00:23:45.000 You're being a fool. 1.00

00:23:46.000 Competing charity. 1.00

00:23:47.000 Also, inspiration is power.

00:23:50.000 It's fuel.

00:23:51.000 If you see someone doing well, so you see someone set and you like it, that's fuel that makes you want to go work, makes you want to get some shit done, it gives you energy. 1.00

00:24:02.000 Or it could cripple you if you're a dummy. 0.96

00:24:04.000 If you're a dummy and you get angry and you get bitter and then you just put all this negativity on the person who's doing better than you, which a lot of people do. 0.98

00:24:15.000 That's a weird dynamic in this business when you know that. 0.97

00:24:19.000 It's going to be people, no matter what you're doing, it's going to be somebody doing better than you.

00:24:25.000 When I was in comedy clubs, I remember being there and they were papering the room.

00:24:34.000 Okay.

00:24:35.000 I wasn't saying I was selling out, they were papering the room.

00:24:37.000 I know out of all these, it's 300 people in here.

00:24:41.000 240 of these people came because it was free.

00:24:45.000 They sent out their email blast.

00:24:49.000 But then what I looked at was, They wanted to come.

00:24:52.000 Yeah.

00:24:53.000 They wanted to come.

00:24:54.000 They're probably comedy fans, which is why they were on the email list in the first place.

00:24:58.000 And then those people, you give them a great show, they'll come back.

00:25:01.000 Then the next time I came, they didn't pay for the room.

00:25:05.000 They sold the tickets.

00:25:06.000 That's how it used to be, man.

00:25:07.000 That was the old days before social media.

00:25:10.000 You would build a market.

00:25:11.000 So you would just show up at Philadelphia once a year. 0.98

00:25:13.000 Show up, do your homework, make sure you got a tight set, you've been practicing, you're ready to rock, fuck these people up, and then leave. 0.82

00:25:22.000 And then they're like, can't wait till you guys are back again. 0.74

00:25:25.000 And then next time you come back, you know, all right, I've built an audience now.

00:25:29.000 I can't disappoint these people.

00:25:31.000 I got to get fired up.

00:25:32.000 And that's what it used to be.

00:25:34.000 It used to be a totally organic thing across the whole country.

00:25:38.000 Is it a difference, in your opinion, between me bringing my audience to a venue from whatever other thing that I do versus people coming that don't know anything about me?

00:25:56.000 And me winning that person over versus the person that I already know.

00:26:00.000 Yeah, it's a different thing.

00:26:01.000 People are coming to see you specifically, you've already won them over.

00:26:05.000 That's a different thing.

00:26:06.000 Or they want to take a chance on you.

00:26:08.000 That's a different thing because I've heard about you.

00:26:09.000 But when, you know, that's a completely different thing because you have an audience now, you have fans.

00:26:16.000 When you are just performing at a club and it's a papered room, you have an opportunity.

00:26:22.000 You have an opportunity to turn these people into fans.

00:26:25.000 You have an opportunity to give these people a great night and have a good time. 0.99

00:26:28.000 And also, you're doing your Fucking thing, which is the most important thing of all. 0.98

00:26:31.000 Everybody is results oriented. 0.99

00:26:33.000 I try to be process oriented.

00:26:35.000 With everything I do, I'm process oriented.

00:26:38.000 I think about there's a goal that you've got to reach, but how do you get to that goal?

00:26:43.000 The way you get there is not thinking about the goal, the way you get there is thinking about what you're doing.

00:26:49.000 What's the process?

00:26:50.000 The process is writing bits, performing them, tweaking them, getting them tight, knowing, reviewing tapes, going over your material, going over your writing, talking with friends.

00:27:02.000 And then every day it gets a little bigger.

00:27:04.000 Every day it gets a little better.

00:27:06.000 Every day that knife gets a little sharper.

00:27:07.000 That's the process.

00:27:09.000 That's the process that leads you to become whoever, whoever you are.

00:27:14.000 And then you add other little pieces in that process.

00:27:16.000 I remember I was talking to Bobby Lee and me and Bobby Lee talking.

00:27:21.000 I said, Bobby, you don't realize where you met me at.

00:27:25.000 And he's like, Well, is this going to be a good story or is it a bad story?

00:27:29.000 Bobby's got a lot of bad stories.

00:27:31.000 I said, You met me at.

00:27:34.000 At the Houston Improv, and they called me and asked me, Did I want to host?

00:27:40.000 A room that I already sell out, you know what I'm saying?

00:27:44.000 And they asked me, did I want to host?

00:27:46.000 I said, cool.

00:27:47.000 So I came and I hosted, and I was not trying to, but I was destroying his feature.

00:27:55.000 I'm just hosting.

00:27:57.000 We should not be hosting, especially at the Houston Improv.

00:28:01.000 But my thing was, this was years ago.

00:28:04.000 But I said, Bobby, you didn't understand when I was hosting at the Houston Improv, I was doing something that most people didn't understand why I was even doing it.

00:28:15.000 And they would see, why would you be hosting?

00:28:18.000 I said, because I'm not going to be in front of Bobby Lee's audience.

00:28:21.000 But it's people that live in Houston, his audience, that I have no idea who I am.

00:28:27.000 I said, Bobby, but before you, I was coming to the Houston Improv hosting for multiple people, and I was just winning over fans that would never have seen me if they wasn't coming to see you.

00:28:42.000 They wouldn't be coming to my show.

00:28:43.000 I said, so before that, it was you or last, Bobby.

00:28:47.000 It was you, and the week prior to that, it was Monster Bronny.

00:28:51.000 And the week.

00:28:52.000 Prior to that, it was, what's my girl, Angela Johnson.

00:29:00.000 Angela Johnson, and before that, it was some random white guy.

00:29:06.000 I said, I just came and I want to do, I'm a comic.

00:29:11.000 So me hosting was no big deal.

00:29:13.000 I wasn't working.

00:29:14.000 So I said, well, let me just come host it.

00:29:16.000 That's what they want me to do.

00:29:17.000 So I gained fans from four different audiences.

00:29:22.000 In a month, so when I came back, it was like, Yo, I saw you with Miles Gibrani, and so I came back to see you when you put your show up.

00:29:31.000 I'm like, Cool.

00:29:33.000 So, my process that was a part of my process.

00:29:36.000 I it didn't matter who I hosted for, and then I'm like, Okay, cool, you know, let me let me go.

00:29:42.000 Like, when I hosted for um Bill Burr, Bill Burr was like, This is crazy.

00:29:49.000 We in Austin at the Paramount, and I said, I said, The worst thing about this.

00:29:55.000 Was that at the time I was wearing all black.

00:29:58.000 And I went to the show, and when I walked on stage, the first thing I said is, Hey, I do not work here.

00:30:07.000 I said, Don't.

00:30:09.000 Like, eight people asked me, Where's the bathroom?

00:30:10.000 I don't know.

00:30:11.000 I don't work.

00:30:12.000 But it was like, I look like an usher. 0.98

00:30:16.000 Like, yo, I was like, Yo, this sucks. 0.72

00:30:19.000 But it was a cool gig. 0.90

00:30:20.000 That's hilarious.

00:30:21.000 That's a smart approach.

00:30:22.000 I mean, that's a great way to build, especially if you're already headlining.

00:30:26.000 Yeah, I think.

00:30:28.000 I think that thing about concentrating on the process, people should try to apply that to everything.

00:30:33.000 You know, my friend John Dudley, who taught me archery, he's a big believer in that, being process oriented.

00:30:42.000 Like, that's how you get better at archery.

00:30:44.000 And he used to compete all over the world, travel, compete in archery tournaments.

00:30:49.000 I think that applies to everything.

00:30:50.000 I think it applies to music.

00:30:51.000 I think that applies to everything.

00:30:54.000 I think one of the things that trips people up about social media, a lot of these young guys in particular, young people in particular, Is that they are thinking about other people and they are comparing themselves to other people and they are looking at those numbers.

00:31:06.000 And you're looking, you're spending all of your energy. 0.98

00:31:10.000 If you have an allotted 100 units of energy in a day, you're spending a disproportionate amount on things that don't empower you and actually kind of fuck your head up. 0.98

00:31:20.000 Not good for you at all. 0.99

00:31:22.000 Instead of saying, wow, I am chasing the fucking dream, right? 0.92

00:31:26.000 I am out here being a professional comedian and I have a real chance. 0.98

00:31:32.000 To develop a real following.

00:31:33.000 If I put my time in, I put my effort, I really care, and I really work hard, I could sell out of theater one day.

00:31:39.000 That's possible.

00:31:40.000 Like, that's a goal. 0.95

00:31:42.000 It should be a goal just like getting your PhD in chemistry or whatever the fuck it is your goal is. 0.61

00:31:47.000 But the process is what's important.

00:31:49.000 The process is like appreciating what you're doing, why you're doing it, and just bearing down and doing your best.

00:31:56.000 That's it.

00:31:57.000 That's it.

00:31:58.000 And other people, look at them as inspiration. 0.96

00:32:01.000 Other people that are kicking ass, you know, don't go, don't become a hater. 1.00

00:32:05.000 That shit is so bad for you. 1.00

00:32:07.000 I know so many dudes who have like hater tendencies and they never excel. 1.00

00:32:12.000 Never.

00:32:13.000 It's the counter.

00:32:15.000 Thinking of an excellent person is a hater.

00:32:19.000 Someone is always trying to diminish people and downplay people and look at someone in the least charitable way and the worst possible way.

00:32:26.000 To somehow or another, trying to make themselves feel better.

00:32:27.000 But it doesn't work.

00:32:29.000 It does the opposite of work.

00:32:30.000 It robs you.

00:32:32.000 It robs you of your self esteem, it robs you of your self respect.

00:32:35.000 You're spending so much time thinking about this other dude.

00:32:38.000 Like, why?

00:32:39.000 It's a lot of energy.

00:32:40.000 And my dad, this is one story that I did not put in the special that I should have.

00:32:47.000 And my dad had all these thoughts. 0.96

00:32:51.000 And he was, I literally say he was a crazy man.

00:32:53.000 But when you think about the things that he would say, made sense.

00:32:56.000 My dad, and why would you be telling me this at the age that, but he just gave them, I think I was like 11.

00:33:04.000 And my dad out of nowhere just said, you know what I'm, people spend the same time and money on being fake when they can put that same time and money into being real.

00:33:15.000 Yeah.

00:33:16.000 And I'm like, I didn't know, I didn't understand what that meant.

00:33:20.000 But as I got older, if you spend any money or time faking something, you could probably spend that money and time being real about something.

00:33:34.000 Yeah.

00:33:34.000 You know, why go buy a fake necklace to act like you're rich when you can go buy a real necklace, if I'm saying, at some point, if I'm saying, and, you know, be actually be rich, you know, if that's what, if you keep comparing it to necklaces.

00:33:53.000 I just didn't understand it at the time.

00:33:55.000 But then as I got older, I understood why put this time in to pretending when you can put that same energy in and then become real at what you do?

00:34:07.000 It makes no sense.

00:34:08.000 My uncle Vinny, when I was six or seven years old, I was staying at his house with my cousins.

00:34:16.000 And we were supposed to brush our teeth.

00:34:19.000 And I didn't like following rules, period.

00:34:22.000 And so I wouldn't brush my teeth.

00:34:23.000 Instead, I would take toothpaste and smoosh it around on my teeth.

00:34:27.000 And so, that when they smell my breath, they would smell toothpaste.

00:34:30.000 And my uncle explained to me, he goes, I understand why you're doing it.

00:34:36.000 He goes, but the amount of time that you're spending pretending to brush your teeth, you could have just brushed your teeth.

00:34:42.000 And I thought about that when I was six. 0.99

00:34:43.000 I was like, damn. 0.99

00:34:45.000 I was just a little kid. 0.99

00:34:46.000 But I was like, ah, he's right.

00:34:49.000 Why am I faking brushing my teeth?

00:34:53.000 I felt like I was six years old.

00:34:54.000 I was like, I feel like such a.

00:34:56.000 My uncle Vinny was like super patient, super calm.

00:34:59.000 Out of all my family members, he was the strangest. 1.00

00:35:02.000 Out of all these wild, crazy Italian people, he was an artist and he was very soft spoken and never got angry about anything. 1.00

00:35:12.000 He would always speak really rationally. 1.00

00:35:14.000 I was like, God, he's so smart.

00:35:16.000 He's just so peaceful. 1.00

00:35:18.000 But the way he laid it out, he didn't say, Hey, I know you're not brushing your teeth, you little fuck. 1.00

00:35:23.000 What's that? 1.00

00:35:24.000 It was the time you're spending pretending to brush your teeth.

00:35:27.000 You could have just brushed your teeth.

00:35:28.000 You could have just brushed your teeth.

00:35:29.000 But it was like, sometimes adults will say something to you like that when you're six.

00:35:33.000 And it just gets in your head, you're like, whoa, okay, that just saved me a whole lot of time.

00:35:40.000 I gotta just brush them. 1.00

00:35:42.000 Just brush your fucking teeth. 1.00

00:35:44.000 Stop pretending. 1.00

00:35:45.000 Stop faking.

00:35:46.000 It doesn't help anything.

00:35:48.000 It does the opposite.

00:35:49.000 It does the opposite.

00:35:51.000 And, you know, people, the truth sometimes is hurtful to people.

00:35:58.000 The truth doesn't feel good, you know, to a lot of people, unfortunately.

00:36:03.000 But, you know, you have to look at it, you have to have perspective.

00:36:08.000 But that's the ultimate hate right there.

00:36:11.000 That's the ultimate hate is for me to.

00:36:14.000 Give you a falsehood instead of tell you the truth.

00:36:16.000 Right.

00:36:17.000 That's the ultimate, it's the ultimate hate.

00:36:19.000 Especially if you're making up a background for yourself.

00:36:23.000 You're making up a story about your life that's not true.

00:36:26.000 You're pretending you're somewhere in life that you're not.

00:36:30.000 You know?

00:36:30.000 Yo, man, just do the thing.

00:36:33.000 Just do the thing.

00:36:34.000 Yeah, but it's hard for people.

00:36:36.000 It's hard for people.

00:36:37.000 And then there's a lot of people that think you just fake it until you make it.

00:36:40.000 And then you hear stories.

00:36:41.000 Oh, this guy, I had $500 in my bank account, but I told them.

00:36:45.000 I got this, I got that loan, and next thing you know, my business is making all this money.

00:36:50.000 And you go, wow, he faked it until he made it.

00:36:52.000 And it worked.

00:36:54.000 And you think it's going to work, but it doesn't work most of the time.

00:36:57.000 So few and far between, then they never tell you that that guy goes to jail later for fraud.

00:37:03.000 Yes, 100%.

00:37:04.000 100%.

00:37:05.000 The feds busted my house three years later and took everything.

00:37:08.000 You're like, okay.

00:37:09.000 Exactly.

00:37:10.000 Like when they arrested Carlos Mencia recently for all his counts of tax fraud, I was like, okay.

00:37:17.000 I don't want that to happen to him, but there it is.

00:37:24.000 Right?

00:37:25.000 I mean, that's what it is.

00:37:26.000 I'm not laughing at Carlos Mateo.

00:37:28.000 I'm just laughing at the fact that you're like, yeah, when they busted Carlos.

00:37:33.000 I mean, it didn't bring me any joy to see that.

00:37:35.000 I don't like anybody getting arrested for taxes. 0.99

00:37:39.000 I think taxes, until they have an accurate account of where the fucking money goes, and until you. 0.98

00:37:48.000 Completely eliminate all fraud and waste. 0.99

00:37:52.000 What the fuck are you doing locking people up for not paying taxes? 0.99

00:37:57.000 Like, you guys should get locked up for not doing a good job with our money. 0.99

00:38:03.000 So, what do you think about all the new purchases and redoing the White House and all this with tax dollars?

00:38:10.000 Did they do it with tax dollars?

00:38:11.000 How much money did they spend in tax dollars to do the ballroom?

00:38:15.000 Let's find out. 0.95

00:38:17.000 They need a ballroom, though.

00:38:19.000 That's how that guy snuck in with a gun because they tried to do that White House correspondence dinner in a hotel.

00:38:24.000 That dude who got arrested a few months back.

00:38:28.000 What's this resolution?

00:38:30.000 The pool, something full of algae right now that we spent on the.

00:38:34.000 Yeah, I don't know about that.

00:38:35.000 That's something about making the pool look nice.

00:38:39.000 Whatever that is, reflecting pool.

00:38:40.000 Yeah, the reflecting pool.

00:38:41.000 Reports indicate the new White House East Wing ballroom is projected to cost about $600 million, with roughly half, just over $300 million, coming from taxpayer funded government accounts, despite earlier promises that it would be taxpayer free.

00:38:55.000 300 million sounds like a lot until you find out how much money they spend on other things.

00:39:01.000 When you find out how much fraud is in NGOs, how much fraud is in nonprofits, how much fraud is in insider trading and propping up companies so that they can get better deals.

00:39:16.000 The whole thing is fraud.

00:39:18.000 The thing is, if you're spending, I understand how much money goes in other things, but if you're spending any money that.

00:39:28.000 That's my money that I don't know that I need it, or that's not really the aim, the goal.

00:39:34.000 You should be able to vote on it.

00:39:36.000 You should be able to vote on it.

00:39:36.000 You should be able to vote on where all your tax money goes.

00:39:38.000 How much tax money is being spent on getting smart people in places, making smart children?

00:39:45.000 That's the big one.

00:39:47.000 That's the thing.

00:39:48.000 The big one is if you look at our country as a community, and that's what we're supposed to be doing, we're supposed to be the United States of America. 0.91

00:39:56.000 All that bullshit aside, that was the one good thing that happened about 9 11. 0.68

00:40:00.000 When 9 11 happened, after that, we were all united. 0.99

00:40:03.000 It was crazy.

00:40:04.000 It was crazy.

00:40:05.000 We realized we are actually on a team.

00:40:08.000 So if we're on a team, Why do we have these deeply impoverished neighborhoods for decades and decades that are riddled with crime and drug abuse?

00:40:15.000 Why?

00:40:16.000 Is it impossible to fix?

00:40:18.000 That's crazy.

00:40:18.000 That's not true.

00:40:20.000 It's just no one's tried to fix it, no one's done any effort to fix it.

00:40:24.000 And if you did fix it, you want to make America great.

00:40:27.000 Here's the best way less losers. 0.75

00:40:30.000 And how do you get less losers?

00:40:32.000 More opportunities for people, more opportunities, more support, more education, more everything that you need if that was your neighborhood.

00:40:40.000 And if we did that, we'd have to switch the way our system runs, but that could be done, man.

00:40:47.000 You don't have to have losers, not that many.

00:40:49.000 That's the thing about making America great, right?

00:40:53.000 If you're trying to make anything great, don't you need intelligent people to do that?

00:40:59.000 Of course.

00:40:59.000 That's the number one thing.

00:41:00.000 So when we have all these divisive people that are on a lower vibration, how is that making the country great if we're putting.

00:41:15.000 People in position that don't have the experience or the education in those things.

00:41:22.000 And then we just saying a bunch of divisive things.

00:41:26.000 You know, it was.

00:41:29.000 If I'm watching the extravaganza that happened at the White House, what was the thing?

00:41:35.000 Michelle Obama is a man.

00:41:37.000 Like, how did that help?

00:41:38.000 How did that help?

00:41:39.000 That guy says that every time.

00:41:42.000 But what is the thing?

00:41:44.000 First of all, it's.

00:41:46.000 Is really divisive because you know that a large portion of the country is going to take this, it's going to have a problem with this.

00:41:53.000 You know, clearly she's not a man.

00:41:55.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:41:56.000 But it makes no sense, like, to.

00:42:00.000 I've never seen this many people say so many damaging things about a past president.

00:42:05.000 It's like he's still on the forefront, and it's not like we have a president that's doing the greatest job for this country, you know, which is a weird thing to me.

00:42:16.000 And people are going to ask, is that what's the belief?

00:42:20.000 That's the real belief of people.

00:42:22.000 That's the real thing.

00:42:23.000 Well, listen, there's some crazy people that believe the world is flat. 1.00

00:42:26.000 There's a lot of dumb beliefs. 0.99

00:42:28.000 There's probably people that do believe Michelle Obama is a man. 1.00

00:42:30.000 What that guy does, he's like a pro wrestler.

00:42:34.000 Like, he's got a character called the Incredible Hoke.

00:42:37.000 It's very corny in a lot of ways, sometimes it's, you know, cringy.

00:42:42.000 But the point is, he gets a lot of attention, a lot of attention because of all this.

00:42:47.000 That's what he's doing.

00:42:48.000 So, what he's trying to do is maximize the amount of attention that he can get for a very short window of career.

00:42:55.000 This is not how he really feels, how he really thinks.

00:42:57.000 When you talk to him in real life, he's very reasonable.

00:42:59.000 This is an act that he does, like a pro wrestling act.

00:43:02.000 But what he can do is fight.

00:43:05.000 He's really good.

00:43:06.000 And that's what's so confusing about it all. 0.97

00:43:08.000 So you got this guy who's created like this fake persona where he puts on an American flag bandana, comes out to Hulk Hogan music, does all his interviews with sunglasses on, has a bunch of crazy, silly rhymes, and says ridiculous shit just trying to get attention, the most amount of attention. 0.96

00:43:24.000 It is very divisive. 0.98

00:43:25.000 Don't get me wrong, but that's by design.

00:43:27.000 So he's Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage in the same way.

00:43:31.000 Well, he's an actual fighter.

00:43:32.000 Well, actually. 0.99

00:43:32.000 He's a really fucking good one, man. 0.99

00:43:34.000 He just knocked out Derrick Lewis at the White House. 0.99

00:43:36.000 Derek Lewis has the most knockouts in the history of the sport.

00:43:39.000 Don't do that, Joe.

00:43:41.000 Don't do what?

00:43:43.000 Don't say that so excited because Derek Lewis goes to the same gym, Main Street Boxing Gym in Houston.

00:43:49.000 I'm very close to that.

00:43:50.000 Dude, I love Derek Lewis.

00:43:51.000 I don't like the fact that Derek Lewis lost that fight. 0.98

00:43:54.000 I think Derek of 10 years ago would have been a real fucking problem for that, dude. 0.97

00:44:00.000 Because Derek of 10 years ago, you couldn't hold him down. 0.99

00:44:02.000 He would just get up.

00:44:04.000 There's a whole compilation of people trying to hold Derek Lewis down.

00:44:08.000 Who he just gets a hand on you and just whoop.

00:44:11.000 His grip, they did that UFC grip thing where they test the grip.

00:44:15.000 Everybody's like 140.

00:44:16.000 The strong ones are like 160, 190.

00:44:19.000 Derek just squeezed it casual, 218. 1.00

00:44:22.000 And they were like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:44:24.000 So you see how problematic this was for me. 1.00

00:44:26.000 You already beat my friend.

00:44:29.000 Then you turn around and say.

00:44:30.000 He beat a 40 year old Derek Lewis.

00:44:31.000 A 40 year old Derek Lewis.

00:44:32.000 Then turn around and say, Michelle Obama's a man.

00:44:35.000 I was like, okay, you know something.

00:44:36.000 I know what you're saying.

00:44:37.000 I'm pissed.

00:44:38.000 Listen, you're right.

00:44:39.000 I'm like, I'm pissed.

00:44:40.000 You're right.

00:44:41.000 But I'm telling you, if you met that dude in real life, you would get it.

00:44:45.000 He's just a dude.

00:44:46.000 He's just a guy who is a competitive wrestler, played in the NFL, and he's like, I got to do something to figure out how to get people to pay attention to me.

00:44:55.000 Because it can't just be fighting.

00:44:57.000 It's not enough.

00:44:58.000 If you look at Conor McGregor, you look at Sugar Sean O'Malley, you look at these guys that have these flamboyant personalities, these big personalities.

00:45:06.000 Cassius Clay is the original example.

00:45:08.000 They get an immense amount of attention, and that translates into Much more money and much more opportunities. 0.96

00:45:14.000 There's no fucking way that guy would have gotten that fight at the White House if he couldn't fight.

00:45:20.000 Because the fight that he had before that, he fought Curtis Blades, who was a top 10 UFC heavyweight, huge wrestler, and they went to war, dude. 0.99

00:45:28.000 I mean, he put it on him for three fucking rounds. 0.79

00:45:30.000 Like, Curtis just has an insane heart and survived it. 1.00

00:45:34.000 But that guy can fucking fight. 0.99

00:45:36.000 But just that alone is not enough. 0.99

00:45:38.000 You got to get attention.

00:45:39.000 I don't agree with it.

00:45:41.000 I wouldn't do it.

00:45:41.000 It's not my thing.

00:45:43.000 I don't like it.

00:45:44.000 Right?

00:45:44.000 But I get it and it's smart.

00:45:46.000 With Muhammad Ali, though, he was very respectful in his act, you know, to get attention.

00:45:54.000 You know, just like.

00:45:54.000 No, he wasn't.

00:45:55.000 Yes, he was. 0.99

00:45:55.000 I mean, he wasn't with other people, but he would show up at fucking Sonny Liston's house and scream about him on his fucking front lawn at four in the morning. 0.99

00:46:04.000 He did wild, crazy shit. 1.00

00:46:07.000 I love how he did that. 1.00

00:46:08.000 He did a lot of wild.

00:46:09.000 He was just all about getting your heart rate up, getting your emotions in there. 0.98

00:46:13.000 He was so fucking smart. 0.94

00:46:15.000 He knew before everybody that you could just get somebody into a frenzy and they wouldn't be able to sleep. 0.99

00:46:20.000 Their whole life revolved around fighting you.

00:46:24.000 And I can't let this guy beat me in the fear of losing.

00:46:27.000 He's going to keep you weak.

00:46:28.000 It's going to keep you.

00:46:29.000 You're not going to be able to eat as much food.

00:46:31.000 You're going to feel nervous.

00:46:32.000 But you see what happened when somebody called him Cassius Clay.

00:46:35.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:36.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:37.000 You see.

00:46:38.000 Who was that?

00:46:39.000 What fighter was that?

00:46:40.000 He kept punishing himself.

00:46:41.000 Your mama named Clay.

00:46:42.000 Your mama named Clay.

00:46:43.000 But that didn't work out for him. 0.85

00:46:45.000 He beat the piss out of him.

00:46:47.000 And he carried him. 1.00

00:46:48.000 He carried him while he was beating his ass. 1.00

00:46:51.000 Dude, he was. 1.00

00:46:52.000 A special, special guy.

00:46:54.000 It's, you know, I'm not comparing him in terms of his cultural significance to Josh Hokett because, you know, he was my parents, my mother, and my stepfather were hippies.

00:47:03.000 They never watched fighting.

00:47:05.000 But when he had a rematch with Leon Spinks, that's how much of a cultural figure he was.

00:47:10.000 They wanted him to beat Leon Spinks.

00:47:12.000 Yeah, how crazy they were.

00:47:13.000 Like, oh my God, he's got to win.

00:47:14.000 He's got to win. 0.99

00:47:15.000 Hippies sitting in front of the fucking TV in like 1970, whatever it was. 1.00

00:47:19.000 You know how crazy they have Italian hippies. 1.00

00:47:21.000 Like, Because I heard it. 1.00

00:47:24.000 It was like my family was like, I thought it was a tie.

00:47:27.000 It was a tie.

00:47:30.000 Well, they were hippies, but, you know, my grandmother went to jail for running numbers for the mob.

00:47:35.000 So it's like there was a lot of.

00:47:38.000 Okay.

00:47:38.000 There was a lot of real Italian dynamics.

00:47:42.000 Yeah, grandma went away for a little bit. 0.99

00:47:46.000 She wouldn't rat them out, so she did some time. 1.00

00:47:49.000 I was at a show one time and I said, where are all the Africans in here?

00:47:57.000 And this Italian dude, He's from Sicily.

00:48:01.000 He raised his hand.

00:48:03.000 And I said, and the people were like, Why is he raising his hand?

00:48:07.000 I was like, He knows.

00:48:10.000 He knows.

00:48:12.000 He knows. 0.99

00:48:14.000 Yeah, there's a really good reason why Sicilians have darker hair, curly hair, darker skin. 0.75

00:48:20.000 He was like, Yeah. 0.99

00:48:21.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:48:22.000 And that's all I said was, He knows.

00:48:25.000 And people who got it, they was like, Okay, right.

00:48:28.000 And at that point, it's like when people don't know that.

00:48:31.000 That you have some sort of level of intelligence.

00:48:35.000 And they're like, Oh, okay.

00:48:38.000 Yeah.

00:48:40.000 It's a big thing.

00:48:41.000 But that's funny, though.

00:48:42.000 Italian hippies, but my grandmother also.

00:48:45.000 Well, yeah, there were a lot of hippies back then, man.

00:48:47.000 And I think the original idea behind it was great.

00:48:51.000 And I was just watching this thing today about the CIA and LSD and what they did.

00:48:55.000 It was really funny, man.

00:48:56.000 It was a video?

00:48:58.000 Yeah, that came out of the Grateful Dead video.

00:49:00.000 Isn't it dope?

00:49:01.000 See if you can find it.

00:49:01.000 Put it up because it's kind of cool.

00:49:03.000 There's conveniently an MKA Ultra hearing going on right now in the.

00:49:06.000 Oh, how convenient.

00:49:08.000 I know.

00:49:08.000 Listen, bro, I got it right here.

00:49:10.000 Jamie, I'll send it to you.

00:49:12.000 They 100% are still doing that.

00:49:15.000 No ifs, ands, or buts.

00:49:16.000 If you think they did that in the 60s, and they 100% did, if they're doing mind control experiments on people and they're influencing people's opinions, and half of the reason why people are at odds with each other all day long online is probably government intervention.

00:49:31.000 At one point, there's some government's intervention.

00:49:34.000 If not ours, Russia and China.

00:49:37.000 This is wild that the CIA created the hippie movement.

00:49:40.000 And your mom's favorite band probably helped them.

00:49:43.000 In the 1950s, the CIA bought up the world's supply of LSD.

00:49:47.000 They brought it to the pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly, who reverse engineered it, giving them an unlimited supply and a complete monopoly.

00:49:54.000 Then the testing started.

00:49:55.000 One early volunteer for these tests was Ken Kesey.

00:49:58.000 Kesey wrote a book inspired by this experience, which became a bestseller.

00:50:02.000 Then Kesey went on to host events, which he called acid tests.

00:50:06.000 And he wasn't charging anyone, he just wanted people to show up and do acid.

00:50:11.000 For these events, he hired an unknown house band called the Grateful Dead.

00:50:14.000 These events became wildly popular, and with them rose the popularity of the band.

00:50:19.000 So the Grateful Dead begins touring, and Kesey follows them around in a bus from show to show.

00:50:23.000 And everywhere he went, he brought a vat full of Kool Aid laced with LSD.

00:50:27.000 This guy had a seemingly endless supply, exporting the hippie culture all around the US.

00:50:32.000 Meanwhile, the CIA is flooding college campuses with LSD under the guise of research.

00:50:37.000 And the Grateful Dead was just one of many bands in this movement.

00:50:40.000 At the same time, in Laurel Canyon, came a wave of musicians with something in common.

00:50:44.000 They were all children of high ranking military officials.

00:50:47.000 The biggest names in music Jim Morrison of the Doors was the son of an admiral.

00:50:51.000 Frank Zappa's father was a chemical warfare specialist.

00:50:54.000 Even Crosby, Stills, and Nash.

00:50:56.000 Yeah, all three of them.

00:50:57.000 And all of these bands as well.

00:50:59.000 The theory is the CIA orchestrated the hippie movement to steer a very real anti war movement into something a little easier to combat dissent without teeth.

00:51:08.000 The hippie slogan was literally turn on, tune in, and drop out.

00:51:15.000 In other words, do acid and remove yourself from society.

00:51:18.000 And a lot of them did drop out of society to go live in communes in the woods.

00:51:22.000 This intersection between hippie culture and the CIA could all be a great big coincidence. 1.00

00:51:27.000 Maybe military brats naturally want to rebel. 0.98

00:51:30.000 And maybe the CIA was giving away acid because they're chill like that. 1.00

00:51:34.000 Maybe the CIA created the hippie movement.

00:51:37.000 And your mom's favorite band probably helped them.

00:51:40.000 Yeah.

00:51:41.000 Isn't that wild?

00:51:42.000 That's crazy.

00:51:43.000 That's wild.

00:51:44.000 They also had a big influence on gangster rap.

00:51:47.000 Big influence on promoting gangster rap.

00:51:49.000 Oh, for sure.

00:51:50.000 100% proven.

00:51:51.000 100%.

00:51:52.000 100%.

00:51:53.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:51:53.000 They wanted to fill prisons. 0.97

00:51:55.000 You want to push that over anything else?

00:51:57.000 You know, because we can look at.

00:51:59.000 How rap music changed and then it changed.

00:52:02.000 You know, 1992.

00:52:04.000 Yeah.

00:52:05.000 After 1992, they was like, no more positive rap.

00:52:09.000 Well, it was whenever Straight Outta Compton came out, because I was in Boston at the time.

00:52:13.000 I would remember to the day it happened.

00:52:16.000 But Straight Outta Compton wasn't a drug-filled induced album.

00:52:22.000 It was, if you look at some of the songs, you look at a lot of the songs that were on that album, it was rebellious songs against.

00:52:30.000 The system, yeah, you know, the police, and then 1992, man, when they decided, yo, we don't want no more De La Soul, we don't want no more Tribe Car Quest, we don't want no, you get them leather medallions off your.

00:52:45.000 It's like, yo, we need, we need, like, yo, they would like self destruction and uh, West Coast, West Coast All Stars.

00:52:56.000 They was like, what they coming together, hell no, you know, we need.

00:53:01.000 This to be divisive.

00:53:03.000 We need them to separate.

00:53:05.000 And that's crazy that the biggest times that I've experienced this country being together was the Olympics, when the dream team came, 9 11, and COVID.

00:53:20.000 That's the biggest time that we, the three biggest times I've ever even seen us together.

00:53:25.000 Yeah, because we need something.

00:53:27.000 We need something that's real.

00:53:30.000 We need some sort of an event that makes us realize.

00:53:33.000 First of all, the fragility of life.

00:53:35.000 That's important.

00:53:36.000 And we have to realize that we're all supposed to be a part of a team.

00:53:41.000 And you can't play on a team if your teammates don't think that you're valuable.

00:53:47.000 Not only that, you can't play on a team if your teammates are poisoning you, if your teammates are allowing you to eat rotten food so that you can't play, and maybe giving you inferior gear on purpose, and maybe keeping you in a place where you can't get sleep so that you're not going to.

00:54:03.000 Evolve.

00:54:05.000 You're always going to be tired.

00:54:06.000 You're going to be fatigued. 0.99

00:54:07.000 So you're never going to get better at whatever the fuck it is you're doing. 0.99

00:54:10.000 You're never going to advance in life. 0.99

00:54:12.000 You're going to be tired.

00:54:13.000 You're going to be on drugs.

00:54:14.000 You're going to be poor.

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00:54:54.000 This is how I see.

00:54:56.000 That's not a good team.

00:54:57.000 This is how I see with parenting.

00:55:00.000 It's hard to parent if your number one goal is survival.

00:55:04.000 Right.

00:55:05.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:55:06.000 It's hard to parent.

00:55:07.000 Right. 0.99

00:55:07.000 You know, you got to parent from a. 0.99

00:55:10.000 Comfortable space.

00:55:11.000 You can't parent from nervous chickens, really don't lay eggs.

00:55:16.000 That's true.

00:55:16.000 So the thing is, you, if, like the way I parent now versus how my mom, my mom was strictly survival.

00:55:25.000 So, my thing is survival first.

00:55:28.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:55:29.000 Then the rest of it.

00:55:31.000 You know, I don't remember going to vacation with my parents.

00:55:38.000 You know, like vacation?

00:55:40.000 What? 1.00

00:55:42.000 Your mom working two jobs and going to school trying to better, she's just taking care of you.

00:55:47.000 So, I'm not in the position, my kids go on vacation.

00:55:51.000 You know, it's different.

00:55:53.000 You know, so I see things from both sides.

00:55:59.000 All the time because I'm in that which makes me grateful.

00:56:02.000 I'm grateful that I can do the things I can do with my family, you know what I'm saying, versus parenting from a place of frustration.

00:56:10.000 Yeah, you know, but I understand this frustration thing, you know, I'm trying to take care of you, and you know, and then sometimes I look at my kids like, you know, something you have it really easy because if I wouldn't have washed them dishes, my mom would have destroyed me.

00:56:28.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:56:30.000 Because her mindset is.

00:56:31.000 Hey, I'm trying to take care of y'all.

00:56:33.000 Y'all got the help in this.

00:56:34.000 You know, with me, it was like, we have a housekeeper.

00:56:38.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:56:40.000 The housekeeper comes in four days out the week, you know, and now I'm like, so you just going to throw that stuff on the floor and you making it hard for the housekeeper?

00:56:49.000 You know, the reason why she's here four days a week is so to make your life easier, but you're adding on to.

00:56:56.000 By being lazy. 0.76

00:56:57.000 By being lazy.

00:56:58.000 Like, I don't.

00:56:59.000 There's a balancing act, right?

00:57:01.000 You want to protect your children, but you don't.

00:57:04.000 Want them to develop soft.

00:57:08.000 You want them to be able to take care of their own problems and you want them to be able to understand the consequences of their actions.

00:57:15.000 So, this is like a fine line of like encouragement and punishment and like explaining to them how your life was different and you have to appreciate this life.

00:57:29.000 This is very unusual.

00:57:30.000 You're super fortunate.

00:57:31.000 But I think ultimately what they learn from is how you behave.

00:57:35.000 That's a giant part of.

00:57:37.000 Of being a parent that people I don't think are totally aware of until you start doing it.

00:57:42.000 That they understand. 1.00

00:57:43.000 Whatever the fuck you say is one thing. 1.00

00:57:45.000 That's great. 1.00

00:57:46.000 What you do is what they really say. 1.00

00:57:48.000 And if you're a lazy fucker who's always making excuses, your kids are going to not have respect for you. 1.00

00:57:52.000 They're going to know, like, real early on, you're kind of full of shit. 1.00

00:57:56.000 This is the craziest thing, though. 1.00

00:57:57.000 You know how hard it is to put somebody on punishment and then say, hey, Pac, we're going to Cabo.

00:58:04.000 He's like, am I on punishment or are we going to Cabo?

00:58:07.000 You're going to get your iPad for 16 hours.

00:58:10.000 Yo.

00:58:11.000 When we get to Cabo, you stay in your room and overlook the ocean.

00:58:17.000 Watch this place.

00:58:18.000 And think about your consequences as you order room service.

00:58:21.000 Drinking Coca Cola, eating French fries, lamb chops coming to the room.

00:58:27.000 He's like, yo, you on punishment, dude.

00:58:31.000 So I can't have oysters.

00:58:32.000 You hear the birds chirping.

00:58:38.000 You're looking at the waves.

00:58:41.000 It's rough.

00:58:43.000 It's a certain part of success.

00:58:46.000 That you almost can't punish because it's like I'm not staying at home because you don't punish me.

00:58:57.000 See, my mom would, she, ah, it's just different, you know?

00:59:01.000 It's different.

00:59:02.000 My mom would go in her room and turn on Nas Land and the Dynasty, and I'm in my room with no TV because it was only one TV.

00:59:08.000 There's a TV in every room.

00:59:11.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:59:12.000 I mean, the punishment was come in here and watch Falcon Crest with me.

00:59:17.000 What?

00:59:17.000 I don't want to watch no Falcon Crest.

00:59:20.000 And then you start watching Falcon Crest and now you love it.

00:59:23.000 He's like, so when is it coming on again?

00:59:27.000 You get addicted to my character.

00:59:28.000 That's why I like MASH.

00:59:30.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:59:31.000 I would be in trouble and you watching MASH and Bonanza, then all of a sudden you love MASH.

00:59:39.000 I cried when MASH went out.

00:59:41.000 Do you remember the dude who dressed up like a girl in MASH?

00:59:44.000 Jamie Farr?

00:59:45.000 Yeah.

00:59:45.000 He was my neighbor.

00:59:46.000 I was your neighbor?

00:59:47.000 Yeah.

00:59:47.000 Wow.

00:59:48.000 Back in California.

00:59:49.000 He lived right next door, two houses down.

00:59:52.000 Wow.

00:59:53.000 Clinger.

00:59:54.000 It used to be just me and him.

00:59:56.000 And then another guy built a house in between us.

00:59:59.000 He was cool.

01:00:00.000 Very friendly guy.

01:00:01.000 Who played a good character.

01:00:03.000 That was a good show.

01:00:04.000 Yeah, Mash was a very good show.

01:00:06.000 You know, and I said this the other day to a friend of mine.

01:00:10.000 I said, like, I listen, I used to ride and take my kids to school and listen to morning shows.

01:00:17.000 You know, really Tom Joyner, you know, listen to Tom Joyner.

01:00:21.000 And this is something I can listen to with my kids.

01:00:24.000 Now there's no morning shows that I can listen to.

01:00:29.000 With my children without them putting in a different element that i'm.

01:00:33.000 I don't want my kids to be a part of.

01:00:36.000 You know that's a weird thing that they cursing on radio and doing all this but they can't curse on radio still.

01:00:45.000 Oh yes, they can, can they?

01:00:47.000 They change it.

01:00:48.000 They'll drop a b word in a minute.

01:00:50.000 Oh, a b word yeah, but that's it.

01:00:53.000 You can't, you can't use, you can't say no yeah, but the rest of it.

01:00:58.000 You know my.

01:00:59.000 You know you got daughters, you're in the right right right, and you're hearing some You don't want them to hear.

01:01:05.000 That's a weird thing. 0.98

01:01:07.000 So they go to school and they say, you watching the B, you're like, damn, that was the ending of the show.

01:01:18.000 So now we ride and listen to Keisha Cole. 0.95

01:01:24.000 I listen to NPR.

01:01:26.000 I listen to Urban Network.

01:01:30.000 Now they got all these political.

01:01:33.000 Questions and and you know, when your five year old, like, so why aren't we voting?

01:01:39.000 Like, oh, it's because you've been listening to Karen Hanna the whole time on the way to school or from school.

01:01:46.000 So it's um, it's weird how you what shows would you sit down and watch with your kids now?

01:01:53.000 You know, I they have to watch the shows that I grew up watching.

01:01:57.000 You know, got to go back, you got to watch Perry Mason and Family Matters and you know, the Cosby Show, you know, Different World.

01:02:04.000 We had to go back and watch.

01:02:06.000 Good times.

01:02:07.000 You know, can't watch the current things.

01:02:11.000 You know, so, you know, even with comedy, I took Hassan to a comedy show with me to see some friends.

01:02:23.000 And he was 14 at the time.

01:02:26.000 And we left because it was nothing.

01:02:32.000 The things that were being said, it kind of made me go back to when.

01:02:39.000 Cosby did the story about his son going to see Eddie Murphy.

01:02:43.000 And his daddy said these things.

01:02:45.000 And I was sitting there like, after the first two minutes, I'm like, yo, we got to get out of here.

01:02:51.000 How old was he at the time?

01:02:52.000 14.

01:02:53.000 That's too young.

01:02:54.000 And I'm like, yo, man.

01:02:56.000 But I mean, the guy who's doing comedy, he's doing comedy for adults that are drinking in a nightclub, right?

01:03:01.000 No, we were at an event where it was all these bodybuilders.

01:03:05.000 The gym, Next Level had done a show for all the.

01:03:12.000 The people that work out there and the trainers.

01:03:14.000 And I'm thinking, okay, this is at a ballroom, you know, it's probably gonna be pretty cool.

01:03:19.000 And I stopped in, you know, we sat in the back, and then it went left.

01:03:25.000 And I was like, hey, man, let's get out of here.

01:03:28.000 And he's seen me, and so he's like, nah, this ain't the same.

01:03:35.000 I'm like, yeah, I'm not going for a certain type of laugh, I'm not doing shock value, you know.

01:03:42.000 So he's watched almost all the specials, you know, so it's not the same for him.

01:03:51.000 You know, and he looks, he knows a lot of comics, so it's not conducive.

01:03:57.000 I was like, Hassan, we out, we out of here.

01:04:01.000 He's like, but it's some comics you can go and you can watch their whole show, like a Marcus D. Wiley.

01:04:07.000 He can get an understanding of at least marriage, you know, how marriage goes to give you some fuel.

01:04:14.000 But I think the landscape of comedy is different for different people, not knocking the people who do shock value or a lot of sexual content.

01:04:24.000 That's their.

01:04:25.000 That's their stick.

01:04:26.000 And they probably young, and at some point they'll grow.

01:04:30.000 Hopefully, they'll grow, and it'll be more things in life to talk about.

01:04:35.000 People are like, well, how do you have this many specials?

01:04:40.000 Because I have a life.

01:04:41.000 You know, I had a life before that I talked about, and then I have a life, a current life, that, you know, I'm still experiencing things.

01:04:49.000 So I'm going to talk about things that's a little different because I'm living, and I'm not stuck in.

01:04:58.000 Sex is not the number one thing.

01:05:00.000 I remember when I figured that I was, sex wasn't that big when I went to, you know, they had the thing Netflix and chill.

01:05:08.000 And I actually wanted to watch the movie. 0.70

01:05:11.000 I'm like, oh, get your hand off my leg.

01:05:15.000 I'm trying to watch this movie.

01:05:16.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:05:19.000 So it's a thing about the development in this game of how you grow and what you think about.

01:05:25.000 Well, I think comedy is just one of the problems with the label is that there's no genres.

01:05:31.000 It's not like blues comedy, rock and roll comedy, hip hop comedy, EDM comedy.

01:05:36.000 It's just comedy.

01:05:37.000 You don't know what it is.

01:05:39.000 It's just different people's perspective on things.

01:05:41.000 And there's different kinds of comedy that people like.

01:05:44.000 Some people are giant Richard Pryor fans.

01:05:46.000 Some people are Sam Kinnison fans.

01:05:48.000 Some people are Jerry Seinfeld fans.

01:05:50.000 And some people love Bonnie Raitt.

01:05:52.000 And some people love, you know, whatever, James Brown.

01:05:56.000 Fill in the blank.

01:05:57.000 There's a lot of different styles of music.

01:05:59.000 And there's a lot of different styles of comedy.

01:06:02.000 And all that I care is that you enjoy what you're doing and you're doing it because you enjoy it. 0.99

01:06:08.000 And if you're doing that, I don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:06:10.000 I don't give a fuck what you're doing. 1.00

01:06:12.000 I don't care if you have props. 0.99

01:06:13.000 I don't care if you write signs and hold them up for the crowd. 0.99

01:06:15.000 I don't give a shit what you're doing. 0.99

01:06:16.000 I don't care if you do impressions. 1.00

01:06:18.000 I don't give a fuck what you're doing. 0.99

01:06:20.000 That was a huge. 1.00

01:06:24.000 So when.

01:06:24.000 Talk about the scope of comedy.

01:06:26.000 You know, I'm.

01:06:28.000 I can start with Carol Burnett and I watched that.

01:06:30.000 But the guy who I watched on HBO a lot.

01:06:35.000 I knew I wasn't going to do that type of stand up.

01:06:38.000 That was just a whole different thing.

01:06:39.000 But Gallagher was crazy to me. 0.96

01:06:43.000 Crazy. 0.96

01:06:43.000 That was the craziest. 0.96

01:06:45.000 Everybody wore plastic.

01:06:46.000 Garbage bags around the neck.

01:06:48.000 In the front, what, six rows? 0.99

01:06:49.000 Yeah, just getting splattered with watermelons and pineapples and coconuts and whatever the fuck he was, cabbage. 0.99

01:06:55.000 Ridiculous. 1.00

01:06:57.000 Ridiculous. 0.99

01:06:57.000 But he also had some good jokes. 0.99

01:06:59.000 He had some solid jokes in between then.

01:07:01.000 Dude did a ton of specials.

01:07:03.000 Yeah.

01:07:03.000 You know the craziest story the Gallagher story.

01:07:06.000 Is Gallagher retired and his brother took over?

01:07:10.000 His brother was Gallagher, too.

01:07:12.000 So he had a brother that kind of looked like Gallagher.

01:07:14.000 I remember that.

01:07:15.000 Right?

01:07:15.000 I remember Gallagher 2.

01:07:17.000 And then somewhere down the line, Gallagher decided he wants to start doing comedy again.

01:07:22.000 And he's like, hey, Gallagher 2, the gig is up.

01:07:26.000 And he's like, no, I'm making money.

01:07:29.000 I'm Gallagher 2.

01:07:32.000 I think there was some sort of a legal dispute.

01:07:34.000 Find out if that's correct.

01:07:36.000 There was a legal dispute between them.

01:07:39.000 Gallagher's younger brother, Ron, who shared a strong likeness to Leo, asked him for permission to perform shows using Gallagher's trademark sledge-omatic routine.

01:07:46.000 Leo granted his permission on the contingent.

01:07:48.000 On the condition that Ron and his manager clarified in promotional materials that this was Ron Gallagher, not Leo Gallagher, who was performing.

01:07:57.000 Ron typically performed in venues smaller than those in which Leo Gallagher performed.

01:08:01.000 After several years, Ron began promoting his act as Gallagher 2 or Gallagher TOO or TWO.

01:08:08.000 In some instances, Ron's act was promoted in a way that left unclear the fact that he was not the original Gallagher.

01:08:15.000 Leo initially responded by requesting only that his brother not use the sledge-o-matic routine. 0.99

01:08:19.000 You can't use the fucking sledgehammer. 0.97

01:08:23.000 Ron nonetheless continued to tour as Gallagher too, using the routine. 0.99

01:08:28.000 In August 2000, Leo sued his brother for trademark violations and false advertising.

01:08:34.000 The court ultimately sided with Leo and granted an injunction prohibiting Ron from performing any act that impersonated his brother in small clubs and venues.

01:08:43.000 This injunction also prohibited Ron from intentionally bearing likeness to Leo.

01:08:48.000 What?

01:08:49.000 Imagine you can't look like your brother.

01:08:52.000 Cut your mustache.

01:08:52.000 Yeah, you got to change your mustache.

01:08:53.000 You got to get rid of the beard.

01:08:54.000 That's crazy.

01:08:57.000 So, did Gallagher continue with his career after he kicked his brother out?

01:09:03.000 Did he come back?

01:09:05.000 Probably did.

01:09:06.000 Was that part of it?

01:09:06.000 Probably.

01:09:07.000 I think it was.

01:09:09.000 Yeah, I think.

01:09:10.000 I don't know.

01:09:10.000 No, but you mean, does it say it there?

01:09:11.000 It didn't say it here or not.

01:09:12.000 It doesn't say.

01:09:13.000 Not specifically in this paragraph, no.

01:09:16.000 When did Gallagher start performing again?

01:09:18.000 Put that in a search.

01:09:20.000 See what it says.

01:09:21.000 Because I think he did start performing again.

01:09:23.000 Yeah, he says he was.

01:09:26.000 Rushed to the hospital after performance in 2011.

01:09:29.000 Oh.

01:09:29.000 So.

01:09:30.000 Okay.

01:09:31.000 In what year did he sue his brother?

01:09:33.000 2000.

01:09:34.000 Oh, so he did start doing comedy again.

01:09:36.000 So that's it.

01:09:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:09:38.000 So he's like, hey, motherfucker. 0.99

01:09:40.000 Yeah, he had a special in 2007 and 2014. 1.00

01:09:43.000 Yeah, you can't be doing that with Gallagher, too, running around siphoning off of your crowd.

01:09:49.000 You know, people are like, honey, you want to spend 50 bucks and see Leo?

01:09:54.000 Or do you want to spend 20 bucks and see Leo? 1.00

01:09:56.000 See, basically the same shit. 1.00

01:09:58.000 See, Ron. 1.00

01:09:59.000 See, Ron smashing fucking cabbage. 0.99

01:10:02.000 Yeah, then you had, uh, what? 0.99

01:10:04.000 Yeah, carrot top.

01:10:06.000 And imagine saying, yeah, you could perform, but you can't use a sledgehammer.

01:10:11.000 I would use a mallet.

01:10:13.000 What about a mallet?

01:10:13.000 Can I use a mallet?

01:10:14.000 Can I use a baseball bat?

01:10:16.000 Can I just have someone pitch me things and I smash them into the crowd?

01:10:20.000 Yeah.

01:10:21.000 You can't own that.

01:10:23.000 That's a different thing.

01:10:24.000 I'm handing out oranges and tomatoes in the audience. 0.99

01:10:27.000 Yeah, I honestly, I don't give a fuck what you do. 0.99

01:10:29.000 As long as you like what you're doing, it's like I love certain kinds of music that's completely opposite to other shit that I love. 0.99

01:10:37.000 I mean, I like all kinds of stuff.

01:10:39.000 I don't think you should pigeonhole yourself with anything.

01:10:43.000 But I would not take my kids, especially when they're really young, to see someone who's like very sexual or really rowdy or really raunchy.

01:10:51.000 Like, I don't want to see that.

01:10:52.000 You know, the caveat to this is he was in the green room and they were looking right at him.

01:10:57.000 Like, they ended up like, and I'm like, what does it change his mind?

01:11:01.000 Tell me.

01:11:03.000 I didn't know they act.

01:11:04.000 Oh, so he didn't say, hey, bro, you got young kids?

01:11:08.000 Yeah, hey.

01:11:08.000 Because I would say, hey, man, tonight, you know.

01:11:11.000 Right.

01:11:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:11:13.000 We'll set an event, bro.

01:11:14.000 I would definitely do that.

01:11:16.000 Especially if you were another comic and you brought your kids.

01:11:18.000 I'd be like, bro.

01:11:21.000 Yeah, because Juan Villarreal used to bring his kids.

01:11:23.000 We got to stop kicksucking.

01:11:24.000 We got to stop kicksucking.

01:11:28.000 Like, yo, you don't have to get him out of here.

01:11:30.000 They don't need to know about all these techniques.

01:11:32.000 Yeah, so that's weird.

01:11:34.000 Yeah, that is weird.

01:11:35.000 But you know what I mean?

01:11:36.000 It's like time and a place.

01:11:37.000 Like, who was he doing it for?

01:11:38.000 I mean, they probably knew what he did before they hired him.

01:11:41.000 They probably wanted that.

01:11:42.000 Someone's a fan, which is fine.

01:11:44.000 But just don't invite kids.

01:11:45.000 And like I said, I didn't. 0.98

01:11:48.000 All I did was, hey, Hassan, let's go.

01:11:51.000 And that's it.

01:11:52.000 I didn't, hey, y'all should have been.

01:11:53.000 I'm like, hey, man, do what you do.

01:11:55.000 But I'm getting my kid out of here.

01:11:57.000 And then you get the phone call, hey, man, why you leave?

01:12:00.000 You don't really want to know why.

01:12:03.000 I'm leaving because you are terrorizing my child's kids.

01:12:08.000 So, yeah, but I definitely wouldn't take my girls to like none of these guys at all.

01:12:14.000 They don't need to see that earlier.

01:12:16.000 Not at all. 1.00

01:12:17.000 My wife got mad at me when I think one of my daughters was six, the other one was eight.

01:12:22.000 I had him watch the movie Alien.

01:12:25.000 You ever see that movie Alien, the original movie?

01:12:27.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:12:27.000 Fucking terrifying. 0.97

01:12:29.000 And I was like, this is too young. 0.99

01:12:31.000 This is too young. 1.00

01:12:32.000 I fucked up. 0.99

01:12:35.000 You know, I think Hassan watched Annabelle when he was young. 1.00

01:12:42.000 And it was.

01:12:42.000 Oh, Annabelle's creepy.

01:12:44.000 It was.

01:12:45.000 He was traumatized.

01:12:46.000 He watched it at somebody else's house.

01:12:48.000 Oh.

01:12:48.000 You know, with some other kids.

01:12:51.000 And they were like, I guess they understood.

01:12:53.000 But.

01:12:54.000 Hassan was, it was a whole problem.

01:12:56.000 Like, you talking about sleeping with all the lights on in the house?

01:12:59.000 Like, I want all the lights on and I'm sleeping in your bed.

01:13:03.000 Like, do you ever go to that place in Vegas?

01:13:07.000 It's a haunted Zach Baggins haunted museum.

01:13:11.000 He has the Annabelle doll there.

01:13:13.000 Wow.

01:13:13.000 Yeah.

01:13:15.000 There it is.

01:13:17.000 Which one is the one on the right?

01:13:18.000 Oh, hell no.

01:13:20.000 That's the real one?

01:13:20.000 That's wreckage.

01:13:21.000 Is the one on the left the movie one?

01:13:23.000 Yeah.

01:13:23.000 Oh, really?

01:13:24.000 Yeah.

01:13:24.000 Interesting.

01:13:25.000 Wow. 0.89

01:13:26.000 So that Annabelle is.

01:13:28.000 Both of them are creepy as hell to me, but.

01:13:30.000 Well, there's something kind of extra creepy about the one with eyes like a person, the left one. 0.90

01:13:35.000 That's insane.

01:13:37.000 You believe in ghosts?

01:13:39.000 Yes.

01:13:40.000 Really?

01:13:42.000 Have you had experience?

01:13:45.000 Um, no.

01:13:46.000 Oh, no, I have.

01:13:49.000 Let me go back.

01:13:50.000 Let me say that.

01:13:51.000 I do believe in ghosts.

01:13:52.000 So, my old house, when my mom says that now, it's a girl that lives there.

01:13:58.000 You know, I don't know what happened at this house, but it's definitely a girl that lives in this house.

01:14:03.000 But she would only come from like the hallway bathroom to the kitchen. 0.76

01:14:09.000 And I remember doing the pandemic.

01:14:11.000 Wait a minute, you say girl, you mean a ghost?

01:14:13.000 Yeah, that's a girl.

01:14:15.000 Okay. 0.87

01:14:16.000 She's definitely a girl.

01:14:17.000 And I remember doing the pandemic, I was in the den and I was working on something.

01:14:27.000 And literally, I just turned and said, So you up, huh?

01:14:32.000 And because I could feel her.

01:14:34.000 I was like, Yo, but and I had to go back through my family.

01:14:37.000 A lot of people in my family have experiences with past relatives that passed on.

01:14:42.000 My uncle said he saw his dad, which is my grandfather, in his shoes.

01:14:48.000 And my mom said she saw my grandfather before and that lived in, that died in the house that they had in Mississippi.

01:14:57.000 But yeah, I believe in ghosts.

01:14:58.000 I believe in unsettled spirits.

01:15:02.000 But you definitely had a girl that lived in that house.

01:15:04.000 My grandmother, the one I was telling you about before, she was very interesting and she really strongly believed in ghosts.

01:15:10.000 And there was a guy that stayed with them for a while.

01:15:12.000 They had an upstairs area that they weren't using once the kids left.

01:15:17.000 And so they rented out, it was like an attic space that they had converted or something.

01:15:21.000 I forget exactly what it was.

01:15:23.000 Anyway, they rented out a room to this guy, whatever the circumstances were, and he died.

01:15:29.000 And my grandmother swore that that dude stayed in the house.

01:15:32.000 Yeah, I believe it.

01:15:34.000 I think it's possible that if something happens to you, that if you're dying, it's a very traumatic experience.

01:15:43.000 And I have a feeling.

01:15:45.000 That we don't totally understand memory.

01:15:48.000 And we assume that memory is something that only human beings have, or that only animals have, or that only living creatures have.

01:15:56.000 I don't think that's real.

01:15:57.000 I have a feeling there may be a type of memory from particularly traumatic experiences that stays in a space.

01:16:06.000 And I think this is one of the reasons why they have to disclose within a certain amount of time someone's been murdered in a house in a lot of places before you buy it.

01:16:13.000 Because people don't want to live in a house that's got that energy in it.

01:16:17.000 Because I think.

01:16:18.000 I think things keep energy.

01:16:20.000 I think they do.

01:16:21.000 I think there's something more to memory than just as simple as, oh, remember when we were five?

01:16:28.000 I think there's something else there.

01:16:30.000 I think that's our memory.

01:16:31.000 But I think there's a type of memory in things.

01:16:34.000 That's what I think.

01:16:35.000 I believe in the unseen world. 1.00

01:16:37.000 So I believe in gens. 1.00

01:16:39.000 You know, I believe in angels. 1.00

01:16:42.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:16:42.000 So it's an unseen world that's not, you know, our thing.

01:16:47.000 But.

01:16:47.000 It was things that were things here before us, you know.

01:16:50.000 So, I think there's things here with us, yeah, definitely with us.

01:16:53.000 And people who don't think that haven't smoked DMT, but I definitely get a hold of some DMT, and you're like, okay, I don't know, there's things around me all the time, there's things that are influencing you all the time.

01:17:10.000 And this is like when we talk about like good energy and bad energy, one of the things you experience in psychedelic states is a clear recognition of like good things that you've done and bad things you've done.

01:17:21.000 Good way of thinking, the good way you think about things, a positive way, and bad.

01:17:25.000 Like, I remember having negative thoughts in an experience once, and it was all these like dark fractals.

01:17:31.000 And then I realized it was trying to show me that these dark fractals, these crazy geometric, these like scary patterns that I was seeing, was because of my own thoughts.

01:17:40.000 And then I released them, and it turned into beautiful geometric patterns over and over.

01:17:46.000 And it kept saying, Look at this, and look at this.

01:17:49.000 And I was like, Oh, it's actually the way you think.

01:17:53.000 Changes the world around you.

01:17:55.000 It has an effect.

01:17:56.000 It might not have the ultimate effect.

01:17:58.000 It might not be 100% of what happens to you and in your life, but it has a meaningful effect.

01:18:04.000 We just can't measure it.

01:18:06.000 And there's things that are out there, whatever they are, they have some kind of consciousness that are around us all the time.

01:18:13.000 We just don't have the senses to take them in. 0.93

01:18:16.000 Just like when you wave your hand over an earthworm, it has no fucking idea you're doing that. 0.72

01:18:20.000 We don't have the senses to understand that there's things around us. 0.88

01:18:23.000 And people have been writing about these things for so long to discount them all. 0.52

01:18:29.000 They're all liars. 0.96

01:18:30.000 They're all delusional. 1.00

01:18:31.000 They're all crazy. 0.99

01:18:33.000 I think that people discount them dudes thinking that they were on drugs. 0.99

01:18:38.000 Well, they probably were.

01:18:40.000 But it doesn't mean they're wrong.

01:18:41.000 It doesn't mean they're wrong.

01:18:43.000 You know, like a drunk really don't tell a lot of lies.

01:18:50.000 Because I'm drunk.

01:18:52.000 A drunk don't tell a lot of lies.

01:18:54.000 I'm drunk.

01:18:54.000 I can't remember all that.

01:18:55.000 I'm just saying what it is.

01:18:57.000 Right.

01:18:57.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:18:59.000 When you, when people like LSD, you know, hallucinates, you know, or mushrooms or these things, people are like, well, you only saw that because you were on this.

01:19:11.000 But maybe that's the portal on how you see certain things.

01:19:15.000 I think there's certain things that we block ourselves from being able to see by our own protective instincts.

01:19:23.000 We protect our thoughts.

01:19:24.000 I mean, this is why people, I think, get paranoid when they smoke weed.

01:19:27.000 One of the things that weed does is it dissolves all these artificial barriers that you've put between you and, And the thoughts of real danger.

01:19:34.000 They're all there.

01:19:35.000 You realize your vulnerability.

01:19:36.000 You realize who you are.

01:19:39.000 So just think of how years ago weed was viewed, how marijuana was viewed.

01:19:46.000 It was taught that marijuana is a gateway drug to crack.

01:19:51.000 Like, I didn't believe that.

01:19:53.000 Like, how does that even correlate?

01:19:56.000 But it's for those who are trying to find an ultimate high.

01:20:01.000 Maybe you just smoke weed and that's all you ever did, you know?

01:20:05.000 And you weren't trying to find another high.

01:20:08.000 I think some people try to find another high.

01:20:11.000 Like now, man, a lot of these young people are on so many different things at the same time.

01:20:20.000 Like, what are you searching for?

01:20:22.000 You know, they're popping pills, doing coke, drinking lean, doing everything all at the same time.

01:20:28.000 Like, what is and drinking?

01:20:30.000 Like, what are you trying to escape or what are you searching for?

01:20:34.000 You know, and I just know people who just smoke weed and still smoke joints.

01:20:38.000 They don't smoke.

01:20:40.000 I know people who grow their own blood.

01:20:42.000 They're not even trusting what's going on now.

01:20:44.000 Now they're finding fentanyl and all this marijuana, you know, and pesticides.

01:20:51.000 Pesticides.

01:20:51.000 Horrible pesticides.

01:20:52.000 Because what people don't know is that a giant percentage of all the drugs or marijuana, rather, that people are buying in places where it's illegal, they're growing them in national forests in California.

01:21:05.000 And the cartel's doing it.

01:21:07.000 And the cartel uses a bunch of pesticides and herbicides that are illegal. 1.00

01:21:11.000 Like real toxic shit. 1.00

01:21:13.000 And they find them doing it all the time. 1.00

01:21:15.000 They find these grow ops in the forest all the time because it's a misdemeanor.

01:21:20.000 So, because marijuana is legal in the state of California, growing it is just a misdemeanor.

01:21:24.000 So, you could have a full scale grow op in public land out in the forest.

01:21:30.000 And these guys find them there all the time.

01:21:32.000 A friend of mine found one in a ranch that he works at.

01:21:36.000 He followed these PVC pipes and he realized that some guy was diverting water into this little area that was on a Tijon ranch.

01:21:45.000 Which is a big ranch outside of Bakersfield.

01:21:48.000 But this dude that was on my podcast before, his name is John Norris.

01:21:51.000 He wrote a book about it.

01:21:52.000 He was a game warden, and it turned into a tactical unit. 0.68

01:21:56.000 They had to get dogs, like Belgian Malmois and shit, with bulletproof vests, and they're going in there having shootouts with the cartel because the cartel had set up these marijuana grow-ups in the woods. 0.86

01:22:06.000 And it was his job to police that area. 0.97

01:22:08.000 It's like, okay, I guess that's what we're doing now.

01:22:12.000 It's a crazy story, man.

01:22:13.000 It sounds like moonshine.

01:22:15.000 That's why you would say it's a street in there.

01:22:16.000 Exactly.

01:22:17.000 Exactly.

01:22:18.000 And this thing moonshining developed into NASCAR.

01:22:22.000 Exactly.

01:22:25.000 Exactly.

01:22:26.000 They had to outrun the cops.

01:22:28.000 Yeah.

01:22:28.000 Yeah, that's what NASCAR came about from.

01:22:31.000 It's fun.

01:22:32.000 I mean, listen, also, it's Al Capone.

01:22:34.000 You know, it's all the mob.

01:22:36.000 They were all running alcohol.

01:22:38.000 And there's a lot of people that were connected to them.

01:22:41.000 You know, some people believe that JFK's dad was involved in alcohol, but that's disputed.

01:22:48.000 A lot of people were making money selling alcohol.

01:22:50.000 They were all criminals, all of them.

01:22:52.000 And so, what are you doing?

01:22:53.000 Are you stopping people from getting marijuana?

01:22:55.000 Nope.

01:22:56.000 What you're doing is you are empowering a criminal empire and you're giving them an immense amount of money. 0.85

01:23:02.000 And they're probably going to have to kill a few people because people get in the way.

01:23:06.000 They're probably going to have to rob a few people because people are competition. 0.90

01:23:09.000 There's a little bit of a problem over here.

01:23:10.000 We got another guy growing.

01:23:12.000 We live in a society where the bad guy is definitely romanticized.

01:23:20.000 Right.

01:23:20.000 So how do you stop people from wanting to be the bad guy when.

01:23:26.000 It's so romanticized in everything.

01:23:29.000 It's romanticized to the point where John Wick is a good guy.

01:23:34.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:23:34.000 John Wick is a contract killer for the Russian mob. 0.99

01:23:38.000 He kills who knows how many fucking people, and he's the good guy. 1.00

01:23:42.000 But you got a problem with the Iceman. 1.00

01:23:45.000 Right.

01:23:46.000 The Iceman was a terrible person.

01:23:50.000 He played it with poison.

01:23:51.000 John Wick at least looks sexy in that suit.

01:23:53.000 But you cannot wait for John Wick 6 to come out that way.

01:23:57.000 I love those.

01:23:58.000 Well, the John Wick movie, though, he likes.

01:24:00.000 He had a reason.

01:24:01.000 They killed his dog and they stole his car. 1.00

01:24:04.000 They fucked up. 1.00

01:24:05.000 They fucked up. 1.00

01:24:06.000 They stole the wrong guy's car and they killed the wrong guy's puppy. 1.00

01:24:08.000 And so you're rooting for him. 1.00

01:24:10.000 You're rooting for him to kill all these bad Russian guys. 0.99

01:24:11.000 But you don't realize that guy's been a contract killer for the Russian mob for who knows how. 0.99

01:24:15.000 How many dads has he assassinated? 0.99

01:24:17.000 How many fucking people that have families that will never come home to them because of John Wick? 0.99

01:24:21.000 And yeah, and sometimes, a lot of times, people don't care. 0.99

01:24:26.000 We don't care.

01:24:26.000 It's weird.

01:24:27.000 Well, we're weird.

01:24:28.000 We're a weird animal.

01:24:29.000 We're a weird animal in a constant flux of thoughts.

01:24:33.000 And we, you know, trying to figure out what's the right way to think and the wrong way to think.

01:24:36.000 And people join religions for it.

01:24:38.000 They'll join cults for it.

01:24:40.000 They'll join political movements for it.

01:24:42.000 They just want to find a way to think that makes them feel better than the way they think right now.

01:24:47.000 You know, with the need to feel better outside of yourself, you know, or your family, you know, or being.

01:25:03.000 You know, great to society.

01:25:07.000 I think that's detrimental to this society where I just, I personally need to feel better, but I don't want the community around me to feel better.

01:25:20.000 And in my mind, if everybody around you in the community feels better, I think it makes for a more harmonious, you know, environment than me just being the only one.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, but that's because you're a wise person.

01:25:35.000 The problem is there's a lot of people that aren't wise and there's no one.

01:25:38.000 Wise around them.

01:25:40.000 That's the real issue is that there's an extreme lack of a good direction book of how to lead a solid life.

01:25:51.000 You're not taught at school. 0.99

01:25:52.000 At school, you're taught to sit down and learn some shit that you don't give a fuck about learning. 0.99

01:25:56.000 Memorize this, do good on the test. 0.99

01:25:58.000 You've got to get a job.

01:25:59.000 What's a job? 0.98

01:26:00.000 Well, you've got to sit there and do some shit you don't want to do to get some money, and with the rest of your time, you can do whatever you want as long as you keep showing up every morning at the same spot. 0.99

01:26:08.000 Then that sucks. 0.99

01:26:10.000 What do you want to do? 1.00

01:26:10.000 I want to escape this suck. 1.00

01:26:12.000 So, what do I need? 0.99

01:26:13.000 Cold syrup?

01:26:14.000 Okay, give me some of that.

01:26:15.000 What do I need?

01:26:16.000 Weed? 0.96

01:26:16.000 Give me some of that. 0.96

01:26:17.000 Adderall?

01:26:17.000 Ooh, Adderall makes me like the job.

01:26:19.000 Okay, I'll take this shit every day. 1.00

01:26:21.000 Now I don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:26:22.000 Now I'm trying to get ahead. 0.99

01:26:23.000 Next thing you know, I'm moving up the corporate ladder. 1.00

01:26:25.000 And I'm a fucking animal, bro, because I'm on Adderall! 1.00

01:26:28.000 You're basically on meth. 1.00

01:26:31.000 You're on a well designed, slow drip amphetamine, and you're out there fucking sleeping four hours a day, getting shit done, you know, driving a Jaguar. 0.99

01:26:42.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:26:45.000 And this is the problem with our society.

01:26:47.000 People don't have a real purpose, there's a lot of people out there that don't really have a purpose.

01:26:51.000 They don't have a real feeling of purpose in their life.

01:26:54.000 You are very fortunate because you found a thing that you're really good at, that you love to do, and you make a great living doing it.

01:27:01.000 A lot of people don't have a thing, and they never were taught to pursue a thing, or they never saw anybody else do it, and they realized they could do it too. 0.98

01:27:10.000 And then, next thing you know, they're married, and they have kids, and they're in their 30s, and then they're in their 40s, and they feel like shit. 0.98

01:27:15.000 I asked you a question. 0.99

01:27:19.000 You have a team, correct?

01:27:21.000 Team of people.

01:27:21.000 In terms of what?

01:27:22.000 Team of people.

01:27:23.000 Sure.

01:27:23.000 Okay.

01:27:27.000 Do you think your team is happy doing whatever they do for the team?

01:27:34.000 If I didn't think that, they wouldn't be working.

01:27:37.000 Okay.

01:27:37.000 So you don't want to be the only one happy on the team.

01:27:41.000 No, that's terrible.

01:27:43.000 And you don't want to also have someone on the team that is one of those people that just was never happy.

01:27:48.000 That's a problem, too.

01:27:49.000 Yes.

01:27:49.000 That's a problem, too.

01:27:51.000 There's people out there you can't fix.

01:27:53.000 So, with, like, I produce other people's specials now.

01:27:58.000 And.

01:28:00.000 Comics that hit me, hey man, I want you to distribute my special.

01:28:03.000 I want you to do this for my special.

01:28:04.000 And the hardest thing, because I'm a small company, the hardest thing is when I have to explain to somebody why it's a no, you know, on this particular special.

01:28:21.000 And it's not just my no, it is for other people's no, because I tell people, and I explain this, if we're doing a special, With you, you have to get the approval of all five of us because we all do different things.

01:28:41.000 And I want everybody who's involved in your special to want to do it, not they have to do it because it's a part of the company.

01:28:51.000 No, I want them to want to do it.

01:28:53.000 And I say, I'm not putting you through a process that I'm not putting myself through.

01:28:57.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:28:58.000 And I've tested this team with me.

01:29:03.000 Giving them a special that I knew that wasn't special.

01:29:09.000 And I'm the head.

01:29:11.000 I'm like, I sent it out and they, and we brought it back to the table and it was a lot of silence at first.

01:29:18.000 I'm like, so what do we think?

01:29:19.000 What are we thinking?

01:29:20.000 And they was like, I don't know.

01:29:23.000 Like, Ali, this is horrible.

01:29:25.000 I'm like, and I'm just listening to everybody's, you know, opinion on it.

01:29:30.000 And they was like, I don't understand the direction.

01:29:32.000 I don't understand where you're going with this.

01:29:33.000 I just, you know, we're going to have to fix a lot of it.

01:29:35.000 I'm like, And I'm just sitting there listening.

01:29:38.000 And we took the vote.

01:29:41.000 And when we turned the vote in, it was five no's.

01:29:45.000 And he was like, So, what was your take on it?

01:29:48.000 I said, I knew it was a no from the beginning.

01:29:50.000 I just wanted to make sure that y'all wasn't going to try to fluff me with the, because he's the head.

01:29:56.000 We're going to say yes.

01:29:58.000 And I'm like, Good.

01:29:59.000 So, anytime we do a project, I put it on the table just like I put anybody else's project on the table.

01:30:06.000 And you got to get all five people.

01:30:09.000 If you want me to finance, you got to get me.

01:30:11.000 Then you got to get the marketing person that's going to market.

01:30:14.000 Then you got to get the director.

01:30:15.000 You got to get the manager.

01:30:18.000 You got to get everybody so they can feel good about pushing your project.

01:30:23.000 I don't want anybody pushing a project that they don't like.

01:30:25.000 That's very smart.

01:30:26.000 Yeah.

01:30:27.000 So you make it a democracy.

01:30:30.000 Smart.

01:30:30.000 So if you got all five of us, then now we're ready.

01:30:33.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:30:34.000 And now I'm going to feel good about somebody coming to me and say, this is going to cost this.

01:30:39.000 Right.

01:30:40.000 Because I know they're doing it out of, hey man, this is what it's going to cost.

01:30:43.000 We're going to figure it out.

01:30:44.000 And I'm like, cool.

01:30:46.000 But even when I do a special, man, it is a lot of, you don't want to talk about this part?

01:30:54.000 Like, no.

01:30:56.000 Like, we should talk about this part.

01:30:59.000 And it's been some decisions that have been made that was, it was my call at the end, but it was somebody else's idea, like with Domino Effect.

01:31:09.000 It would have never been a Domino Effect 2, 3, or 4 if I would have stuck with the name that I started with.

01:31:16.000 The name was 1983.

01:31:19.000 So, what it was going to be?

01:31:21.000 83, 86.

01:31:24.000 It's like, and Rugged, which won what, three Webby Awards.

01:31:31.000 Rugged was the original name, I'm Not Handy.

01:31:37.000 And Eric called me, he was like, No.

01:31:42.000 I've listened to it, I've watched it so many times, I think that we should go with this name.

01:31:46.000 And he gave me the name, and I sat on it for a day, and then I called him back, I'm like, Yeah, you're about right.

01:31:53.000 Well, that's good.

01:31:53.000 That means you got good people.

01:31:55.000 And I think that people should put, like, right now, I'm on the Custom Fit tour.

01:32:00.000 Well, I'm off into August because I'm going to take six weeks of vacation.

01:32:06.000 But Custom Fit is not going to be a special.

01:32:13.000 It's just the tour that I'm doing now because the specials that I'm writing are different than what I just wanted to take this time to just do.

01:32:23.000 Some material.

01:32:24.000 I didn't want to be working on the special.

01:32:27.000 But the theme is about people think custom fit is about clothes.

01:32:31.000 It's not about clothes, it's about tailor making the people around you.

01:32:37.000 You can be a benefit to it, it can be a benefit to you.

01:32:40.000 Not just having these people around.

01:32:43.000 Because sometimes people have a bunch of people around that secretly despise them and secretly despise their success.

01:32:53.000 And that's detrimental to.

01:32:57.000 Haters.

01:32:58.000 Yeah.

01:32:59.000 Sometimes haters will get real close to you, stay next to you.

01:33:02.000 It's a problem. 0.99

01:33:03.000 I mean, when you're in a position like you're in, too, when you're producing other people's specials, you're going to get a bunch of people to come to you that you don't want to do their shit. 0.97

01:33:10.000 It's just like owning the club. 0.97

01:33:12.000 The same issue.

01:33:13.000 The way I bypass that, I put all the power into Adam.

01:33:17.000 Adam Egitt decides who's there and who's not there and how the club gets scheduled and who passes and who doesn't.

01:33:26.000 And he's really good at it.

01:33:28.000 You know, he's really good at it.

01:33:29.000 I trust him implicitly, so I don't have to think about it.

01:33:32.000 And I like it so that when people say, I want to work at your club, I'm like, well, you got to talk to Adam.

01:33:36.000 I just perform, I might be the owner, but I just perform there.

01:33:40.000 I don't think about it in terms of like how the scheduling is.

01:33:43.000 I often have to check the website to see who's there.

01:33:46.000 I don't know who's there.

01:33:47.000 You know, it might be mine, but I got a guy who does it, and he does it really well.

01:33:52.000 So why would I get involved in that?

01:33:54.000 It's easier to not.

01:33:55.000 When I had.

01:33:57.000 When I had a club in Houston, I couldn't be funny in the club at all.

01:34:03.000 Why not?

01:34:04.000 Because I was actively working the club.

01:34:08.000 So I'm on stage and I'm worried about so many other things going on.

01:34:15.000 Like, yo, did you just drop a glass on the ground?

01:34:21.000 I didn't have enough help.

01:34:23.000 You got to get the right help.

01:34:24.000 I got very fortunate in that a lot of the people that I took to Austin.

01:34:29.000 They were from the comedy store and they were out of work. 0.99

01:34:31.000 So the comedy store closed because the fucking stupid government of LA wouldn't even allow them to do outside shows. 1.00

01:34:39.000 You couldn't do an outside show in the parking lot of the comedy store, they wouldn't allow it. 1.00

01:34:42.000 It's so stupid. 0.99

01:34:43.000 They were closed for like a good solid year and a half. 1.00

01:34:46.000 They couldn't support paying all these people.

01:34:48.000 So they had to get rid of them.

01:34:50.000 And I moved here.

01:34:51.000 And it's the same time.

01:34:52.000 It just by chance happened at the same time.

01:34:56.000 And so they were all out of work.

01:34:57.000 And I said, hey, let's get the band back together again.

01:35:00.000 Do you guys want to move to Austin?

01:35:02.000 So I paid for everybody to come out here and I paid for them.

01:35:05.000 I gave them a full salary with everything for like a year and a half or so, maybe even more, maybe two years before anybody had to go to work.

01:35:15.000 Because the club wasn't open.

01:35:17.000 So I was like, I want to give you a job so you could settle in, get used to Austin.

01:35:22.000 You're going to get paid like you're working, but you don't have to work.

01:35:26.000 But I love you.

01:35:27.000 I know you.

01:35:29.000 And, you know, come here.

01:35:31.000 Very admirable.

01:35:32.000 With the store, I just performed at the store, main room for TDE.

01:35:40.000 They had a thing before BTWorld, so I popped in.

01:35:45.000 The comedy store has a certain politics to it that, you know, I like the other one a little more, even though all they serve is.

01:35:54.000 The improv?

01:35:55.000 No, the other comedy store.

01:35:57.000 Oh, La Jolla?

01:35:58.000 Yeah, La Jolla. 1.00

01:35:58.000 La Jolla is the shit. 1.00

01:36:00.000 Which is. 1.00

01:36:00.000 That place is the shit. 1.00

01:36:02.000 What a club. 1.00

01:36:03.000 They just don't have food. 0.99

01:36:06.000 Popcorn, drinks.

01:36:07.000 I don't believe in food in comedy clubs either.

01:36:09.000 Yeah, so.

01:36:10.000 But it's just a different environment.

01:36:13.000 La Jolla is like a very nice, beautiful place.

01:36:16.000 That club is awesome.

01:36:17.000 I love performing there.

01:36:19.000 And with the store in LA, it's like you get there and it's very, it seems very, you know, segregated.

01:36:28.000 This is now?

01:36:30.000 To me, that's when I come.

01:36:31.000 How long ago was this?

01:36:32.000 I just performed, what, last week?

01:36:35.000 Last Wednesday?

01:36:37.000 That's sad to hear because it wasn't like that before.

01:36:40.000 It seemed like the main room and the room around the corner and the belly, all these rooms are different spaces.

01:36:50.000 That's to me, and I may just it may just be that feel because I'm not there a lot, you know.

01:36:54.000 But when I come, when before I came that time, but the management walked up was very pleasant.

01:37:00.000 What do you mean by different spaces?

01:37:01.000 But obviously, the different rooms, but I mean, what do you mean?

01:37:05.000 It seemed like the main room is different from the room around the corner.

01:37:09.000 Well, it is different, but what do you mean by feels different?

01:37:13.000 It feels a little different.

01:37:14.000 Well, I mean, just by its design, it's a big showroom, it's brighter, the ceilings are taller, and then you get into the original room, which is just tight and Perfect.

01:37:24.000 The original room is like, that's where you find out what's real.

01:37:27.000 You know, I've seen a lot of people have rough sets.

01:37:30.000 They're real confident going into that room.

01:37:33.000 That room is a truth serum.

01:37:34.000 I like a tight room. 0.98

01:37:36.000 Well, then there's the belly room. 0.79

01:37:38.000 The belly room is the ultimate truth serum.

01:37:41.000 Trying out new jokes in the belly room is the place because, you know, it only seats 70 people.

01:37:46.000 Oh, man. 0.99

01:37:47.000 You can't bullshit those people there. 0.98

01:37:49.000 That's the creme de la creme to me is a tight, small room. 0.98

01:37:53.000 The belly room is. 0.98

01:37:54.000 Because that's ridiculous. 1.00

01:37:55.000 It's such a good room. 0.96

01:37:56.000 I came from a small audience.

01:37:59.000 They're the best.

01:38:00.000 It's the best for finding out if jokes are real.

01:38:02.000 There's nothing like a small crowd.

01:38:04.000 Like in our club, we have the little boy.

01:38:07.000 Our rooms are named after the bombs they dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

01:38:13.000 And little boy is only 110 seats, it's a super low ceiling.

01:38:18.000 This is when, you know, it's those times in comedy when you knew that that's what you actually love to do.

01:38:25.000 And I remember I was in San Antonio at this place called Santa's.

01:38:31.000 He literally owned the whole strip the club, the wash chair, the corner store, everything.

01:38:37.000 The guy named Santa.

01:38:39.000 I didn't know that he owned it, but it was like a rainstorm or something.

01:38:44.000 The show got rained out.

01:38:46.000 And it is literally three people in this room.

01:38:51.000 It's two ladies and it's Santa.

01:38:54.000 And I don't know that this is him at the time.

01:38:56.000 And we had to go on to get paid.

01:38:59.000 The promoter was like, I'm not paying nobody who don't go on.

01:39:02.000 We're still doing the show.

01:39:04.000 I'm like, okay.

01:39:06.000 So this is $100.

01:39:07.000 He's getting paid $100.

01:39:09.000 And he was like, who going up?

01:39:12.000 I'm like, I'm definitely going up.

01:39:14.000 And I'm going up first.

01:39:17.000 Like, I don't care.

01:39:18.000 I did like an hour and 30 minutes for three people.

01:39:23.000 And I was like, because I kept looking, and like, anybody else going over there?

01:39:26.000 He was like, no, we good.

01:39:27.000 I'm like, I, and Santa, I remember he finally revealed that he was the owner of the club.

01:39:35.000 And he was like, well, let me take you to the back.

01:39:37.000 He took me to the back and he gave me like $700, you know what I'm saying, for performing.

01:39:43.000 He's like, Yeah, man, you wasn't scared.

01:39:45.000 And me and my friends had a good time.

01:39:47.000 And it was like three people.

01:39:49.000 It was literally the dude named Vance put the show on.

01:39:51.000 It was like three Vance tell anybody. 0.59

01:39:53.000 So he was like, This is when I knew Ali was different. 0.55

01:39:56.000 When he went out, three people. 0.93

01:39:58.000 He went first.

01:40:00.000 And he's like, I want 30.

01:40:01.000 And he was like, And it didn't look like he was coming down.

01:40:04.000 I'm like, Yo, bro, I'm here.

01:40:06.000 This is what I do.

01:40:07.000 I don't.

01:40:08.000 And I need that $100.

01:40:09.000 So that's definitely some extra motivation.

01:40:12.000 It's crazy that no one else wanted to go up.

01:40:14.000 They was like, No.

01:40:16.000 And.

01:40:17.000 Another time I was at Wiley, it was a Wiley college, and Marcus was performing, and the mic went out.

01:40:26.000 And it's like all these people in this auditorium, the same place they shot, Denzel shot the movie The Great Debate.

01:40:32.000 So we were in this auditorium, and the sound goes out.

01:40:37.000 And they started ribbing Marcus, and I was in the back, and I was like, What's going on?

01:40:43.000 And he's like, The sound went out.

01:40:45.000 And I walked out, I was like, What's happening?

01:40:48.000 And I said, hold on, Marcus.

01:40:50.000 Let me ask him something.

01:40:51.000 Wait a minute.

01:40:52.000 I know damn well y'all not in here trying to get somebody a problem because y'all got us in.

01:40:56.000 We didn't bring this sound system, got us in fair east side high performance, broken clock.

01:41:02.000 And so I said, listen, Marcus sat down in the back.

01:41:05.000 I was like, yo, this is what we're going to do.

01:41:07.000 I'm going to talk, y'all going to laugh, then I'm going to talk some more.

01:41:11.000 But y'all can't be laughing all alone because we don't have no sound.

01:41:13.000 I'm not supposed to use my real voice in this.

01:41:16.000 So I'm at like 45.

01:41:19.000 And then I look back at Mark.

01:41:21.000 I say, hey, man, you want to come back up?

01:41:22.000 Mark was like, no.

01:41:23.000 Like, you got it.

01:41:25.000 So I did like an hour and 20.

01:41:28.000 He's like, yo, Ali's nuts.

01:41:30.000 I'm like, no, this is what I do and I'm going to figure it out.

01:41:36.000 We did a show at the improv once in Hollywood and the power went out and they were going to cancel the show.

01:41:42.000 And we were sitting there talking and I said, why don't we light the stage somehow?

01:41:47.000 And they said, yeah, we can get a.

01:41:50.000 Emergency light attached to like a generator, and we could put a you know, put the run the wires through the crowd and put an emergency light on the stage.

01:41:58.000 I go, That's that, we'll do that, and then we'll just do stand up with no mic.

01:42:02.000 We did the whole show with no mic, it was the opening, middle, and then me.

01:42:06.000 I did a full hour, it was amazing.

01:42:09.000 Everybody had a great time, it felt special, it felt very unusual.

01:42:13.000 Yeah, you got to see what it's like like when you don't have a microphone and you're projecting to the back of the room.

01:42:19.000 Changed my pacing on things, but it was great, it felt cool.

01:42:24.000 It felt like you were doing something and the audience was into it.

01:42:27.000 I go, look, we're going to have fun, right? 1.00

01:42:29.000 Like, fuck it. 1.00

01:42:30.000 Who cares? 1.00

01:42:30.000 This is going to be, this is never going to happen again, probably, ever. 1.00

01:42:34.000 I've never, I've been doing comedy 30 something years.

01:42:36.000 I've never had that happen where I did a show with no microphone except that one.

01:42:40.000 So, this is the thing.

01:42:42.000 These are the experiences that, as a comic going through the trenches, that some comics will never have.

01:42:51.000 Right.

01:42:52.000 Because they didn't come up that way.

01:42:54.000 And you have a different set of chops when you come up a certain type of way.

01:42:59.000 I've come up in just joking, had to be the craziest place.

01:43:06.000 Because some nights you're coming in, it's like, Nine people, but these nine people are into comedy.

01:43:13.000 And Alice would be like, We got to do the show.

01:43:15.000 Like, it's not a limit.

01:43:18.000 We got to do these people that's here.

01:43:21.000 Because what the thing is, that whole idea that the show must go on, regardless, regardless to.

01:43:28.000 Well, I learned that from Paul Mooney, too.

01:43:30.000 And one of the things that I said, I did a show at the comedy store.

01:43:34.000 It's like the first time that Mooney ever complimented me.

01:43:37.000 And that I was always scared of him.

01:43:40.000 It's just like, if Mooney didn't like it, it was terrifying.

01:43:42.000 Yes, he was a legend.

01:43:43.000 He was a legend, wrote for Richard Pryor, and it was like the way he carried himself, he didn't like you.

01:43:48.000 And I was 27. 1.00

01:43:50.000 I was young and stupid. 0.99

01:43:51.000 And I went up because I would always go up last or late. 1.00

01:43:55.000 I had late spots.

01:43:57.000 And there were like 15 people in the room, but I did my act.

01:44:01.000 And I heard in the back of the room, oh, he was laughing, having fun.

01:44:07.000 And then he grabbed me afterwards. 0.99

01:44:08.000 He goes, You're a real motherfucking comic. 0.98

01:44:10.000 He goes, That's what a real comic does. 1.00

01:44:11.000 He goes, All these other motherfuckers, they went up there and they did. 1.00

01:44:15.000 Oh, where you from? 1.00

01:44:16.000 I know where I'm from.

01:44:18.000 Tell me some jokes, do your act, and that's what you did.

01:44:21.000 And I was like, Wow, Paul Mooney likes me.

01:44:25.000 Me and Paul had a different type of relationship.

01:44:31.000 Did you and Paul not get along?

01:44:33.000 Um, one, I have to always say, I love Paul until I met him.

01:44:43.000 It's like Paul was on some when he when I met Paul, man.

01:44:47.000 I was at the improv and I was.

01:44:49.000 Featuring for him, and the improv it got me to feature for him.

01:44:53.000 I was like, Cool, I'm excited!

01:44:55.000 I get to meet one of my idols in this game, one of the people who changed the course of my pacing.

01:45:03.000 Because it, my lineage to sitting down, I passed through Paul.

01:45:08.000 So it's when I first started, I was a crazy man, I was all over the place, thought that you had to have this all this energy.

01:45:16.000 And then this guy named Des White walked into the club.

01:45:22.000 One night I was there, and Dez stood in the same exact place.

01:45:26.000 He never took the mic out the stand, put his drink down on the stool, and Dez just stood there, and he was destroying this room.

01:45:35.000 Never took the mic out the stand.

01:45:37.000 And he always said, People say, Dez, Dez, why you don't take the mic out the stand?

01:45:44.000 And he was like, Because there's a stand.

01:45:47.000 He said, Let it hold the mic.

01:45:49.000 Some of my favorite comics don't take the mic out of the stand.

01:45:51.000 Ron White.

01:45:52.000 Yeah.

01:45:52.000 Ron White just stands there with a drink on a stool, sometimes with a cigar, just killing with the microphone in the stand.

01:46:00.000 Oh, man.

01:46:00.000 Joey Diaz.

01:46:01.000 Joey Diaz keeps the fucking mic in the stand, and he makes me laugh harder than any fucking human being that's ever lived. 1.00

01:46:08.000 That. 0.99

01:46:10.000 So I'm going to finish Paul, then I'm going to go to Ron.

01:46:12.000 So what did he do, though?

01:46:14.000 So I'm in the green room, and at the old improv where they had a downstairs, you would come through the.

01:46:20.000 It used to be a rainforest.

01:46:22.000 Right, right, right.

01:46:23.000 Yeah, so it was spellbinded at first, and then it changed.

01:46:27.000 So I'm sitting in the green room, and it's a main part, then it's a smaller part.

01:46:33.000 He walked into the small part and said, hey, go count the room.

01:46:39.000 And I was like, what?

01:46:41.000 Yeah, go count the room.

01:46:44.000 I was like, I don't work here like that.

01:46:46.000 I don't count the room.

01:46:49.000 And he was like, yeah, all right.

01:46:52.000 Then he walked out.

01:46:54.000 And then he came back, like maybe 25 minutes later. 0.90

01:46:58.000 Yeah, tell you and your little white friend that it's packed out there and I want my bonus. 0.89

01:47:05.000 What? 0.94

01:47:05.000 Like, what? 0.94

01:47:06.000 White friend, what are you talking about?

01:47:07.000 Raymond Cook is the manager of the club at the time.

01:47:10.000 He was talking about Raymond.

01:47:12.000 And I was like, Yo, pal, I don't count the room.

01:47:15.000 I'm the feature. 0.99

01:47:17.000 Why would I be counting the fucking room? 0.99

01:47:20.000 And then he said something else negative to me. 1.00

01:47:21.000 And I'm like, Yo, pal, if you say something else to me, I'm going to kick your ass, pal. 1.00

01:47:31.000 Like, what is wrong with you? 1.00

01:47:33.000 So I called DL. 0.99

01:47:34.000 I'm like, Yo, I'm about to fucking beat up Palmone. 0.98

01:47:36.000 He's like, You can't beat up Paul Mooney. 0.97

01:47:39.000 He's a legend.

01:47:40.000 I'm like, even if you beat him up, you're still not going to win.

01:47:44.000 It's like, it's going to be a loss.

01:47:46.000 So I'm like, yo.

01:47:47.000 So then another time, oh, and then later on that same weekend, he had this lady with him and she was sitting at the top and I was sitting up there and she got up and she left her purse.

01:48:01.000 So I didn't want to leave and leave the lady's purse there.

01:48:03.000 So I grabbed the travel and I got the purse like this.

01:48:06.000 I came in.

01:48:07.000 I'm like, hey, ma'am, you love your purse.

01:48:08.000 And Paul turned around and I'm like, what are you doing with her purse?

01:48:13.000 I said, she left it.

01:48:16.000 And then the only thing in my head is DL, you cannot beat up Paul Mooney.

01:48:21.000 So I just walked out. 0.99

01:48:22.000 I'm like, I'm going to fuck Paul up. 0.99

01:48:23.000 What year was this? 1.00

01:48:24.000 This is like three years before he died.

01:48:27.000 And this was the old improv.

01:48:31.000 This is what I'd heard, just for clarity.

01:48:34.000 He was struggling in the last years of his life.

01:48:37.000 So you probably didn't get the best version of Paul Mooney.

01:48:41.000 So then we're here in Austin.

01:48:43.000 We performing at the theater that's right next to the Paramount.

01:48:48.000 It's another theater that's connected to the Paramount.

01:48:51.000 The black heritage, the black art something, have booked both of us, not knowing that we had odds. 0.77

01:48:58.000 So I'm in my green room, and the lady comes in, hey, she's very nice.

01:49:04.000 Hey Ali, Paul Mooney's next door.

01:49:06.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:49:07.000 And you would like to meet him?

01:49:09.000 And I was like, no, I'm cool.

01:49:10.000 And then she goes, Paul, Ali's next door.

01:49:14.000 You know, I don't know if y'all want to meet each other.

01:49:16.000 And Paul was like, no, I'm cool.

01:49:18.000 And I went up.

01:49:20.000 I'm in my green room.

01:49:22.000 And the host is on stage.

01:49:23.000 And Paul was getting ready to go up.

01:49:25.000 And this was his apology.

01:49:26.000 He walked by the room and came back like on Purple Rain.

01:49:32.000 Came back and leaned in the room.

01:49:34.000 Hi, Ali.

01:49:35.000 And then. 0.99

01:49:38.000 I mean, Paul's fucking nuts, man. 1.00

01:49:41.000 Yeah, but you got to take that. 1.00

01:49:44.000 You know, there's certain people that are just eccentric.

01:49:47.000 That's Paul.

01:49:47.000 I mean, I wouldn't have.

01:49:48.000 Counted the room either, I would have been like that's not my job yeah, but Ron White, I was in Orlando manager Orlando called me say hey Ali um, I know you have a, I know you have a um a feature.

01:50:02.000 But um, Ron White would like to um, you know, feature for you.

01:50:09.000 And I was like I don't, I don't know um, no person named Ron White.

01:50:14.000 And she's like you don't know Ron White.

01:50:17.000 I'm like, wait a minute, Like Ron White, Ron White?

01:50:20.000 I think it's like some other guy who's using his name or something like that.

01:50:23.000 His name happens to be Ron White, too.

01:50:25.000 Like, Ron White, Ron White?

01:50:26.000 He's like, yeah.

01:50:29.000 I said, he wants a feature for who?

01:50:31.000 He said, you.

01:50:32.000 He called and asked. 1.00

01:50:33.000 I was like, the fuck? 1.00

01:50:35.000 I said, hell yeah. 1.00

01:50:36.000 So I called Marcus.

01:50:37.000 I'm like, yo, Marcus, you're going to go up and then you're going to bring up Ron White.

01:50:42.000 When was this?

01:50:43.000 This was like maybe four years ago.

01:50:45.000 That's crazy.

01:50:46.000 And Ron shows up in this huge tour bus.

01:50:55.000 Like, I'm walking to the club and I'm like, who buses this? 0.86

01:50:59.000 And I'm like, oh shit, it's Ron's, but it's got the tequila brand on it and all that stuff. 0.91

01:51:04.000 And he's in his bus. 0.98

01:51:05.000 He's not even in the green room.

01:51:06.000 Then I get a knock on the door, and his manager, he's like, hey, Ron would like to know, can he come in the green room?

01:51:14.000 I was like, Ron White, you can come in the green room.

01:51:17.000 So he comes in, he's like, yo, man, I love what you do.

01:51:21.000 I just want to do some time.

01:51:23.000 Ron went up there and was destroying this room. 0.97

01:51:28.000 And I couldn't wait to get up because I wanted to just talk about fucking Ron White just featured for me. 0.98

01:51:36.000 I destroyed his room with Ron. 0.98

01:51:38.000 He sat out and watched. 1.00

01:51:39.000 He was like, You're fucking amazing. 0.99

01:51:42.000 And my mind is, I'm still in awe that Ron White wanted to fucking work with you. 1.00

01:51:49.000 I was like, That shit was crazy to me. 1.00

01:51:51.000 That's so cool. 1.00

01:51:52.000 Well, you know, when he's working on new stuff, that's what he likes to do.

01:51:55.000 He likes to go around and does a lot of sets.

01:51:58.000 He's constantly active.

01:51:59.000 He's at the club tonight.

01:52:00.000 We're working tonight.

01:52:02.000 He's one of the main reasons I moved here.

01:52:05.000 Ron moved here before the pandemic.

01:52:07.000 So I called him up in like 2018.

01:52:09.000 I loved having him at the store.

01:52:10.000 So he started coming to the store around 2014 ish, something like that.

01:52:15.000 And oh my God, we had so much fun for years and years.

01:52:18.000 And he had a beautiful place up in Beverly Hills.

01:52:21.000 And then he just got sick because he's always traveling.

01:52:24.000 He just got sick of the long flights and the traffic.

01:52:27.000 And I called him up.

01:52:28.000 I go, why'd you move to Texas?

01:52:30.000 He goes, Austin's amazing. 0.99

01:52:31.000 The food's fucking great. 0.95

01:52:33.000 Everyone's nice. 0.98

01:52:34.000 It's in the middle of the country.

01:52:35.000 If I want to fly to Florida, it's quick.

01:52:37.000 If I want to fly to. 0.99

01:52:38.000 I'm like, God damn it. 0.99

01:52:39.000 Can I live in Texas? 1.00

01:52:40.000 And then the shit hit the fan with COVID, and I was like, I gotta get the fuck out of California. 1.00

01:52:44.000 This place sucks. 1.00

01:52:44.000 They're telling me what to do. 1.00

01:52:46.000 This is not what I signed up for.

01:52:47.000 You tell me I can work.

01:52:48.000 You tell me I have to wear a mask. 1.00

01:52:49.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:52:50.000 I'm getting out of here. 1.00

01:52:51.000 And when I came to Austin, it was one of the main reasons why I was willing to move here.

01:52:55.000 I'm like, if we never do comedy again, at least I can hang out with Ron.

01:52:59.000 That's amazing.

01:53:01.000 Yeah, and then everybody else came.

01:53:02.000 And then once, I mean, so everybody says that I got everybody to move here.

01:53:05.000 Sort of.

01:53:06.000 I got a lot of people to move here, but Ron got me to move here.

01:53:08.000 That's the most important thing.

01:53:10.000 Like Ron got me to move here.

01:53:11.000 And then I realized how nice people are here and how disconnected they are from show business.

01:53:16.000 And I was like, oh, this is so refreshing.

01:53:18.000 Everyone's just normal.

01:53:20.000 My neighbor's a normal guy.

01:53:21.000 Everyone's normal.

01:53:22.000 They're regular people, just people living their lives, having a good time.

01:53:27.000 You know, it's like, and for me, you know, because I love hunting, everyone hunts out here.

01:53:31.000 Yeah.

01:53:32.000 It's like a normal pastime.

01:53:35.000 I tell people I bow hunt in California.

01:53:38.000 Texas is, Texas, we have been.

01:53:41.000 A gym for a long time, and we just let other people feel like they're the upper echelon.

01:53:49.000 We'd be like, okay.

01:53:50.000 Texas ruled forever.

01:53:51.000 I mean, you've got to think Kennison and Hicks, two of the greatest of all time, came out of Houston.

01:53:55.000 Yep.

01:53:56.000 And when I was coming here all the time, I knew it, right?

01:53:59.000 So, one of the things that was good about doing comedy is a lot of people that moved during the pandemic just wanted to get out of California, but they had no idea what the rest of the world was going to be like.

01:54:08.000 They'd never been to Nashville, they'd never been to Austin.

01:54:11.000 I'd been here a A couple dozen times.

01:54:13.000 I knew I loved it.

01:54:15.000 So I was like, look, this will be all right.

01:54:17.000 Like, I'll be fine.

01:54:18.000 Like, it looks like I'm never doing comedy again.

01:54:20.000 I was like, it looks like comedy's done. 0.97

01:54:22.000 It looks like they're going to fucking make us just stay indoors, especially in like blue cities. 0.98

01:54:27.000 Like, this is crazy. 0.97

01:54:28.000 You have to have a Vax card to eat at a restaurant in New York City. 0.99

01:54:31.000 I'm like, this is fucking crazy. 0.99

01:54:32.000 Bananas. 1.00

01:54:32.000 None of this shit makes any sense. 1.00

01:54:34.000 I remember you guys came, Mothership was coming. 0.99

01:54:39.000 Then next thing, I know, Creek In The Cave was here.

01:54:41.000 Creek In The Cave was here first.

01:54:42.000 Yeah, I'm saying how I heard about it like, oh yeah, like Creek In The Cave, I'm like damn okay, Creek In The Cave is coming from New York.

01:54:50.000 And then Mothership is here.

01:54:52.000 And then, but they had rooms.

01:54:55.000 You know, the main thing was um, what was the room that that was um so hard to get in there first?

01:55:02.000 Um, it was the Austin comedy club Damn, I forget the name of it.

01:55:07.000 Velveeta Room?

01:55:08.000 No, no, it was an actual comedy club.

01:55:10.000 Cap City?

01:55:10.000 Cap City.

01:55:11.000 Yes.

01:55:12.000 Cap City.

01:55:13.000 That place was always packed.

01:55:14.000 Yeah, you know.

01:55:16.000 I almost bought that place.

01:55:17.000 Yeah, I heard that.

01:55:18.000 Yeah, I almost bought that whole mall, but the guy who was trying to sell it to me wanted way more than it was worth.

01:55:25.000 And then he got roped up in some FBI investigation.

01:55:29.000 I was told while it was going on that he was being investigated, and I was like, oh, okay.

01:55:35.000 And then you wound up getting arrested.

01:55:37.000 But that building was for sale.

01:55:39.000 The whole thing was for sale.

01:55:40.000 And I went in there.

01:55:40.000 I thought about how many shows I'd been there, how many shows I'd seen there, how many shows I'd performed there.

01:55:46.000 I'm like, I could own this place?

01:55:48.000 Oh my God.

01:55:48.000 Cap City was the first place that I did on the road with DL.

01:55:55.000 That was a great club. 0.99

01:55:56.000 Fucking great club. 1.00

01:55:58.000 Perfect club. 1.00

01:55:59.000 That place was amazing.

01:56:01.000 Such a fun place to work.

01:56:02.000 I think that people didn't realize how the rich history of.

01:56:07.000 Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio.

01:56:11.000 Bro, Laughstop in Houston, in River Oaks, one of the greatest clubs of all time.

01:56:16.000 Somebody told me that that building still exists like that, that it's still set up like that, that there's nothing in it.

01:56:22.000 Is that true?

01:56:22.000 There is nothing in it, though.

01:56:23.000 But it's still the same room?

01:56:24.000 Yep.

01:56:26.000 Man, we might have to do a mothership Houston.

01:56:29.000 Yeah.

01:56:30.000 That's a.

01:56:31.000 Yeah.

01:56:32.000 See, if there's another city that could support a large group of talented up and comers, Houston's one of them.

01:56:39.000 Yeah, so, you know, we have Seeker Group there.

01:56:42.000 We have.

01:56:44.000 They had the other Cap City that was upstairs.

01:56:46.000 Remember, they opened up the second one?

01:56:48.000 They closed that one and then opened up another one.

01:56:51.000 You're talking about Laugh Stop.

01:56:52.000 Cap City?

01:56:53.000 Cap City had another one.

01:56:53.000 Oh, no, I'm sorry.

01:56:54.000 Laugh Stop.

01:56:55.000 Yeah, Laugh Stop.

01:56:56.000 That was the Laugh Spot.

01:56:57.000 Oh, no, no, no.

01:56:58.000 They had that already.

01:56:59.000 That already existed.

01:57:00.000 No, the Laugh Spot went upstairs on WA.

01:57:04.000 I thought that was the Laugh Stop.

01:57:07.000 I thought it was the same group that.

01:57:08.000 No, it was the same group that owned the Laugh Stop in River Oaks.

01:57:13.000 The laugh spot was another place.

01:57:15.000 I knew that because when I was working at the laugh stop, Ralphie Mae was working at the laugh spot.

01:57:22.000 And we got together and we're hanging out and eat dinner.

01:57:24.000 But that was the old spot.

01:57:27.000 Then there was the other laugh stop that they put upstairs.

01:57:31.000 It was a new, but it didn't last.

01:57:32.000 It was only for a couple of years.

01:57:34.000 Yeah, I didn't go to that.

01:57:35.000 It was a good spot.

01:57:36.000 And then it went under.

01:57:39.000 Yeah. 0.90

01:57:40.000 Ari Shafir did it with a Hitler mustache once.

01:57:43.000 He trimmed his mustache to look like Adolf Hitler. 0.97

01:57:48.000 Ari is by far the craziest person that I know. 0.97

01:57:52.000 I thought my Uncle Mac was the craziest person. 0.97

01:57:55.000 Then I met Ari. 0.90

01:57:56.000 I'm like, this is the craziest person that I know.

01:57:59.000 Yeah, he's awesome.

01:58:02.000 He just moved to England. 0.99

01:58:03.000 I'm like, brother, gonna stab you. 1.00

01:58:05.000 He moved to England. 1.00

01:58:06.000 They will fucking stab you. 1.00

01:58:07.000 They stab people there. 1.00

01:58:09.000 Don't get stabbed. 0.99

01:58:10.000 Ari is nuts, but he's such a cool dude. 1.00

01:58:13.000 But he's fucking nuts. 1.00

01:58:15.000 I went to go see him. 1.00

01:58:17.000 At the creek in the cave, when he was getting ready to film his special, and I like, yo, Ari is so crazy.

01:58:28.000 If people took time, just go through the many looks of R.A. Shafir on the internet. 0.76

01:58:34.000 The one that killed me was the half. 0.98

01:58:38.000 He was just bald on one side.

01:58:40.000 Then on the other side.

01:58:41.000 I'm like, yo, is he doing Two Face? 0.97

01:58:43.000 He is insane.

01:58:46.000 He did Two Face for Batman. 1.00

01:58:48.000 He's out of his mind.

01:58:50.000 But that's really who he is.

01:58:52.000 He's not trying.

01:58:53.000 Yeah, he's not trying.

01:58:54.000 That's what he is.

01:58:55.000 He's out of his mind. 1.00

01:58:56.000 He's a fucking maniac. 1.00

01:58:57.000 Complete maniac. 1.00

01:58:59.000 When he tore Burt.

01:59:00.000 When I heard about him tearing up Burt's check with like $25,000, he's like, Yo, I just made $25,000.

01:59:06.000 He just tore the check up and was like, They wrote you another one. 0.94

01:59:09.000 I'm like, Are you insane? 0.89

01:59:12.000 It's like, He's the craziest person, but He's fun. 0.81

01:59:18.000 I've had some great conversations on the phone with him, and he's just, and I was. 0.99

01:59:23.000 Very fucking smart dude.

01:59:25.000 I was very honored when he called me to do his last, The Endless. 0.98

01:59:30.000 And I was like, That's cool to say.

01:59:33.000 Because that's where.

01:59:36.000 That's a pivoting point, a major point in my career when I did.

01:59:40.000 This is not happening.

01:59:41.000 Yeah.

01:59:42.000 Yeah, that was a great show, man.

01:59:43.000 It was a great idea.

01:59:44.000 I remember when he started doing it.

01:59:45.000 He started doing it at the lab at the improv.

01:59:48.000 So, do you remember the lab?

01:59:49.000 Yeah.

01:59:50.000 Another little room.

01:59:51.000 Cool little room.

01:59:53.000 They should have never got rid of that room. 0.99

01:59:55.000 They changed that place and they fucked it up, in my opinion. 0.84

01:59:59.000 That's the room, the main room is still awesome.

02:00:02.000 But the lab used to be.

02:00:04.000 In the back, and it was like there wasn't a big bar there.

02:00:07.000 I think it's still there.

02:00:08.000 It's different now.

02:00:09.000 Yeah, Deion Cole, when last time I was there, Deion Cole was there.

02:00:12.000 Yeah, but it's different.

02:00:13.000 It's different.

02:00:14.000 It's not the same setup.

02:00:15.000 It used to be you went through a door, and it was like another small room.

02:00:18.000 And in that small room, it was separated from the front door.

02:00:22.000 They moved the front door, and now everybody went in through the parking lot, right?

02:00:26.000 And so they went into the lab through the parking lot.

02:00:28.000 So the front door was back there now, and when you would open it, it was all this noise from the street, and they had a curtain to block off the noise, and you'd hear people talk.

02:00:37.000 They were like, Right next to your stage where they were buying tickets.

02:00:40.000 It was annoying.

02:00:40.000 And then there was the bar, which is right there.

02:00:43.000 It's still a cool little small room once everybody settles in, but the original setup was way better.

02:00:48.000 And Ari started doing it there.

02:00:50.000 And I was like, what are you doing?

02:00:51.000 And he's like, I'm going to do a storyteller show. 0.99

02:00:53.000 I was like, what the fuck is that? 0.99

02:00:58.000 That's what I thought. 0.99

02:00:59.000 I was like, why are you doing that?

02:01:01.000 And then he said, well, it really helps you without having to have punchlines and setups and have everything really tight.

02:01:07.000 You could find the beats in a story.

02:01:09.000 And I was like, oh, well, actually, that's brilliant. 0.97

02:01:11.000 That's pretty fucking smart.

02:01:13.000 It's a good alternative sort of way to develop bits. 0.96

02:01:18.000 You know, you develop bits by working it out, but in a more loose format of telling a story.

02:01:24.000 And I didn't even know that that was the premise behind it because when I got it, it was like you go on and you tell a true story.

02:01:33.000 And I was like, okay, cool.

02:01:35.000 That's my thing.

02:01:36.000 Right.

02:01:37.000 You know, and I had um just won Comedy Central's Comic To watch in like 2013.

02:01:45.000 So you get a package, you get an album, you get a half hour and you get a chance to go on one of the shows that's already on um Comedy Central.

02:01:54.000 So they was pitching me the Adam Divine show and I was like I don't like it.

02:02:02.000 And it was another show.

02:02:03.000 I was like nah, i'm cool.

02:02:04.000 So every show that they would say that they wanted me to go, I was like no, that really ain't my thing.

02:02:10.000 So then Chase De Russo, Young comic, called me and said, Hey, listen, you might want to go on.

02:02:18.000 This is not happening.

02:02:20.000 I'm like, What's that?

02:02:20.000 He said, It's a show started on the internet.

02:02:23.000 You know, you.

02:02:25.000 I went on and I watched both, I think both seasons of it on the internet.

02:02:30.000 And I was like, yo, this is the one.

02:02:33.000 So I called Ann Harris.

02:02:35.000 I was like, this is the show that I want to do.

02:02:39.000 And Ari didn't know me.

02:02:41.000 Ari was like, I don't know him.

02:02:43.000 But Eric Abrams is one of the co creators of the show.

02:02:47.000 He's like, I know him.

02:02:50.000 So he's pretty good.

02:02:52.000 You should bring him on.

02:02:53.000 And Ari was already dealing with him.

02:02:54.000 He's like, I didn't know what he was going to do.

02:02:57.000 But all I know, it was a true, all you had to do was tell a true story.

02:03:00.000 And I was like, perfect.

02:03:02.000 Eric thought that I was going to do the story that I did on the second time that I was on.

02:03:08.000 And I was like, when I got there, I was listening to people's stories.

02:03:12.000 And I was like, nah, I'm going to do a lighter story.

02:03:15.000 Because the second story is Mitchell. 0.77

02:03:18.000 It's like when I was going to kill his CO.

02:03:21.000 And I was like, nah, I should do a lighter one.

02:03:23.000 And then I did the prison ride, which is affectionately known as Mexican got on boots. 0.99

02:03:28.000 And Ari was like, best fucking story I ever heard. 0.98

02:03:30.000 I'm like, Me telling the story about a riot, a prison riot. 0.99

02:03:37.000 And I'm telling what happened.

02:03:40.000 And I only did like 16 minutes of what happened.

02:03:45.000 That was a whole ordeal.

02:03:46.000 Like it wasn't a 16 minute riot.

02:03:48.000 It was like nine hours.

02:03:50.000 Like the whole thing is like nine hours.

02:03:53.000 I only told the beginning part of it, which was pretty cool.

02:03:57.000 You know what happened?

02:03:58.000 I already lost the show, right?

02:04:00.000 Yeah.

02:04:01.000 And so when the show came back, it was with Roy Woods.

02:04:06.000 They called me to do it.

02:04:09.000 And the loyal spirit in me, I called Ari first.

02:04:17.000 I was like, hey, they want me to do this show. 0.96

02:04:19.000 I'm really not fucking with it. 0.94

02:04:21.000 And he's like, no, no. 0.97

02:04:23.000 Do it.

02:04:24.000 I was like, what?

02:04:25.000 He's like, I heard about all the stuff.

02:04:28.000 He's like, man, do it.

02:04:29.000 Eric is still shooting it.

02:04:31.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:04:32.000 So you should do it.

02:04:33.000 He goes, we wanted you to be the host, but they didn't want you to do it.

02:04:38.000 You know, they got Roy, which is cool.

02:04:40.000 I don't think they wanted anybody affiliated with Ari to do it.

02:04:43.000 Yeah.

02:04:43.000 So they were punishing Ari.

02:04:45.000 So when they asked.

02:04:46.000 We should tell people why.

02:04:48.000 So for people that don't know, Ari got a deal.

02:04:51.000 He got an offer to do a Netflix special, and he wanted to do it.

02:04:55.000 And they wanted him to do the special on Comedy Central.

02:04:59.000 And he said, Well, I don't have to.

02:05:00.000 It's not in my contract.

02:05:01.000 They said, Well, if you don't do it, we're going to cancel your show.

02:05:03.000 And he was like, Wow.

02:05:06.000 I can't believe you would do that.

02:05:08.000 And that ain't what you tell Ari.

02:05:09.000 Nope.

02:05:10.000 No.

02:05:11.000 So we were trying to figure it out.

02:05:13.000 I offered to host it for free.

02:05:15.000 I said, I will come in and host it.

02:05:16.000 I'd already done it.

02:05:18.000 So I'll come in and I'll host it for no money.

02:05:20.000 I go, because he wanted to make sure that everybody was paid.

02:05:23.000 He was going to take out a loan, and Ari was going to pay all the grips, all the camera people.

02:05:27.000 Because they, you know, these people, they chart out their year.

02:05:30.000 They're like, oh, I'm doing this, it's not happening for the next six weeks, and then I'm doing this for five weeks, and that's their year.

02:05:36.000 And that's how they budget their life.

02:05:38.000 And Ari decided that he was going to take out a loan to pay everybody.

02:05:42.000 And I'm like, wow.

02:05:44.000 I go, listen, man.

02:05:45.000 It go tell Comedy Central that I'll host it for free.

02:05:47.000 They weren't interested.

02:05:48.000 They weren't interested in anybody affiliated with him.

02:05:50.000 He tried to, he offered up a bunch of other comics.

02:05:52.000 Yep.

02:05:53.000 They weren't interested.

02:05:54.000 So I was in that group of the bunch because I know it was you, it was Joey, me, Bert, and they just got me to do it.

02:06:06.000 Once Ari told me it was cool, he's like, man, do it.

02:06:09.000 Yeah, Ari would never try to stop anybody from working.

02:06:12.000 So what I went on and did in my protest of. 1.00

02:06:19.000 You know, you didn't want Ari. 0.92

02:06:20.000 So, what I did was tell a story about Ari.

02:06:28.000 I just told her, like, okay, cool.

02:06:30.000 My story is Mushroom Story, which is an Ari.

02:06:35.000 And I thought I was, yo, second season I did this show, Ari gave me mushrooms.

02:06:42.000 And I went through the whole thing of what happened when Ari gave me the mushrooms.

02:06:46.000 I ate the mushrooms.

02:06:47.000 I didn't know that they were mushrooms, mushrooms.

02:06:49.000 I thought they were something else.

02:06:51.000 And it was like an eighth of mushrooms, and it was a long day.

02:06:59.000 It was a rude thing to not tell you to not eat all of them.

02:07:03.000 And I remember Janice, Janice was my assistant, and I remember I had to fly the next day, and I'm still gone. 0.99

02:07:12.000 I'm out of my shit. 0.96

02:07:14.000 So I get to the airport and I call Janice. 0.99

02:07:17.000 I said, Janice, people are going through this machine.

02:07:23.000 And then I'm not seeing him anymore. 0.98

02:07:28.000 And it's like, he's nuts.

02:07:29.000 He's going, like, and Janice said they probably going to various places. 0.73

02:07:34.000 I was like, but I don't want to go to various.

02:07:36.000 I want to go to Houston.

02:07:38.000 So then when I get up to the TSA 8, I said, hey, I'm seeing a lot of people go through this machine and then I'm not seeing them anymore.

02:07:49.000 Where are they going?

02:07:49.000 The man said, man, various places.

02:07:53.000 And I got out the line.

02:07:54.000 I called Jan.

02:07:54.000 I said, You are right.

02:07:56.000 They are going to various. 0.99

02:07:59.000 Jan's like, He's nuts. 0.98

02:08:01.000 Like, he's losing it. 0.95

02:08:02.000 I'm like, Yo, I was so toasted and just getting on the plane with still full of mushrooms. 0.99

02:08:08.000 It was, I just, I wanted to just close my eyes, but the shit just wasn't working. 0.99

02:08:12.000 It was like, I was out of it. 0.99

02:08:14.000 I never, it's mushrooms is a crazy thing.

02:08:17.000 It's a crazy thing.

02:08:18.000 And that same week, because I was there for a couple of days, Joy Diaz gave me a black star. 1.00

02:08:30.000 And I remember calling somebody, he was like, Yo, don't you eat that shit. 0.99

02:08:34.000 Like, he said, If you want to lose it, don't you. 0.99

02:08:37.000 So, this is an episode of I'm on Joy Diaz.

02:08:40.000 This is back when I was smoking. 0.85

02:08:42.000 I took an edible with the Flying Jew, and me and him, it's like you literally see us. 0.87

02:08:50.000 I was fine at first.

02:08:54.000 Joy is the only person that's in this studio that's still together.

02:08:58.000 And you just slowly see us just melting.

02:09:01.000 We both did.

02:09:01.000 And then I know I was speaking very good English at one point.

02:09:05.000 Then I was, and it was like, yeah.

02:09:09.000 Joy was like, no, I understand.

02:09:12.000 I don't understand.

02:09:14.000 The church of what's happening now had some of the greatest overdose on weed moments ever in the history of the internet.

02:09:21.000 Just Lee, just seeing Lee Syatt just melting.

02:09:25.000 He can't keep his eyes open.

02:09:26.000 He's.

02:09:27.000 He's just melting his chair.

02:09:30.000 At first, I was like, yo, he's tripping.

02:09:32.000 Then all of a sudden, I'm like, this is not happening to me.

02:09:35.000 It was crazy. 0.99

02:09:36.000 Joey Diaz doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

02:09:38.000 He goes, I want to see the devil. 0.99

02:09:42.000 The other side of that story is another comic with me named Billy Sorrells.

02:09:46.000 He had taken some edibles, but he ain't on the show.

02:09:49.000 So he's outside.

02:09:50.000 He didn't just melt it outside.

02:09:54.000 He's just sitting on the ground outside the studio.

02:09:57.000 Like, yo. 0.99

02:09:57.000 Those black stars are 500 milligrams. 0.99

02:09:59.000 Yo.

02:10:01.000 That was, yeah.

02:10:04.000 I saw Joey eat two of those once.

02:10:07.000 He just chucked down two of them.

02:10:09.000 I'm like, that is so crazy.

02:10:11.000 That's so much.

02:10:13.000 You know, Jamie doesn't feel it.

02:10:16.000 Edibles don't work on him. 0.99

02:10:18.000 Jamie's got some weird fucking biological condition. 1.00

02:10:21.000 Throw that me, I'll try it. 0.99

02:10:23.000 Yeah, I'm not afraid. 0.99

02:10:25.000 He doesn't give a fuck. 0.98

02:10:26.000 He's not scared of edibles at all. 0.99

02:10:27.000 I've done two different types of mushrooms.

02:10:30.000 I didn't know that there were.

02:10:32.000 It's like the ones where I was really on one.

02:10:34.000 That's the one that R gave me.

02:10:35.000 And then there's some other ones that made me very talkative.

02:10:39.000 Like, look at Lee.

02:10:46.000 Ah!

02:10:52.000 Drool on his shirt.

02:10:53.000 Bro, he's in another dimension right now.

02:10:58.000 He can't keep the headphones on.

02:10:59.000 He doesn't know what to do.

02:11:02.000 Joey's the best.

02:11:03.000 They're back.

02:11:04.000 They're doing it again.

02:11:05.000 They're back?

02:11:05.000 They're back together again.

02:11:06.000 Oh, man.

02:11:08.000 Are they doing it out of New Jersey?

02:11:09.000 Is that what they're doing?

02:11:11.000 Yeah.

02:11:12.000 He's the best.

02:11:14.000 I remember I called Moses Malone for Joey because he's a big Moses Malone fan.

02:11:19.000 Before Moses died, I called him.

02:11:21.000 He's like, You know Moses Malone? 0.99

02:11:23.000 There's no fucking way you know Moses Malone. 0.99

02:11:24.000 I'm like, Yeah, I know fucking Moses. 1.00

02:11:28.000 Moses was nuts, too. 1.00

02:11:29.000 Like, Moses Malone was a fucking nut. 1.00

02:11:32.000 Have you heard about these new mushrooms that make you see little tiny people? 1.00

02:11:36.000 Oh, no.

02:11:37.000 No, I haven't.

02:11:38.000 The talkative ones were, like, I called a lot of people on my phone, and everybody's same report was You know, you call me like three in the morning talking about you want to talk to me about my life.

02:11:49.000 I'm like, Which ones are those?

02:11:52.000 What did you take?

02:11:54.000 It's not psilocybin?

02:11:55.000 It's something different?

02:11:56.000 Yeah, it's something different.

02:11:58.000 It made me very tired.

02:12:00.000 I told Delay about him.

02:12:02.000 What that would be?

02:12:03.000 Comic name Delay.

02:12:04.000 I told him about him because I called him and I talked to him for like hours.

02:12:09.000 Just about.

02:12:10.000 So then he ended up taking the same mushrooms.

02:12:14.000 He called me and I knew what it was.

02:12:16.000 I was like, go ahead, just talk. 0.99

02:12:20.000 He was talking his ass off. 0.98

02:12:21.000 I had put the phone down and went to sleep. 0.98

02:12:23.000 I woke up.

02:12:24.000 He was still talking. 1.00

02:12:25.000 I'm like, yo, this shit is crazy. 1.00

02:12:28.000 What is it? 1.00

02:12:29.000 Man, I got it.

02:12:29.000 Jimmy, put that into perplexity.

02:12:31.000 I got to call.

02:12:32.000 Put that into our AI sponsor and find out what mushrooms make you talkative.

02:12:35.000 Yeah, I know who gave them to me, so I call her and ask, hey, what are those shrooms that you gave me? 0.98

02:12:41.000 Because she went and bought them, and like, I was a fucking talkative mess. 0.96

02:12:45.000 I don't know what that is. 0.98

02:12:46.000 I've never heard of that before.

02:12:48.000 Most of the time, when people take shrooms, they can't talk.

02:12:50.000 It's like, ugh.

02:12:51.000 No, I was on one.

02:12:54.000 That's crazy.

02:12:54.000 Because the ones that Ari gave me.

02:12:57.000 It's just magic mushrooms, just in general.

02:12:59.000 Some people's response to it.

02:13:01.000 Yeah, but it seems that there are different responses to different ones.

02:13:04.000 I know I'm saying.

02:13:05.000 On the screen says what I just said.

02:13:06.000 I don't think there's enough research for perplexity to have an educated answer.

02:13:11.000 How much research are they doing out there?

02:13:14.000 Talkative social on magic mushrooms, but there's no specific mushroom reliably proven to make you talkative.

02:13:20.000 Ask if there's a mushroom that makes you see little people.

02:13:24.000 Yeah, that's different.

02:13:26.000 I know.

02:13:26.000 I know, but I want to see what perplexity has to say about it.

02:13:30.000 What does perplexity say?

02:13:31.000 Ask it about is there a mushroom that makes you see little people?

02:13:36.000 Let's see if it really is up on its psychedelic science.

02:13:43.000 I want to see what it says, though.

02:13:45.000 It's just a question to see how it handles this.

02:13:50.000 Yes.

02:13:51.000 A specific edible mushroom called Lanmoa asiatica has been reported to cause very vivid hallucinations.

02:14:02.000 You say hallucinations.

02:14:03.000 Maybe they're really little people right there.

02:14:05.000 Of little people, when it's undercooked, a phenomenon known as Lilliputian hallucinations.

02:14:11.000 See, the thing is, how do you know it's a hallucination?

02:14:14.000 Maybe you just now can see these things that people have been writing about for eons. 0.99

02:14:20.000 How ignorant are people? 0.85

02:14:21.000 And how arrogant are we that we know everything that's going on all around us all the time? 0.99

02:14:26.000 We don't.

02:14:27.000 People have always thought gremlins were real and gnomes were real and fairies.

02:14:32.000 Studying that since the 60s. 1.00

02:14:34.000 Of course they have been.

02:14:35.000 I'm studying it right now.

02:14:37.000 Let's study.

02:14:38.000 Let's go study mushrooms.

02:14:40.000 Man.

02:14:41.000 Yeah, they've been studying it, but the real problem is.

02:14:45.000 There's got to be a bunch of.

02:14:46.000 I know for sure there's other strains that are much more potent because I know a guy who's a mushroom guy.

02:14:52.000 He's like deep in the world of mushrooms.

02:14:54.000 And he was explaining to me that there's one that's like 10x stronger and there's new ones that they found.

02:15:00.000 I think they found a new one, I want to say in China.

02:15:03.000 They found a new hallucinogenic mushroom.

02:15:06.000 But this one, this Lilliputian one, is weird because it's not psilocybin.

02:15:09.000 This is the one that's cooked.

02:15:10.000 This has something to do with cooking it.

02:15:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:15:12.000 The ones you normally are supposed to eat them raw? 0.82

02:15:15.000 No, I think this might be the Chinese one. 1.00

02:15:17.000 Because I think it's a. 0.99

02:15:18.000 Is it?

02:15:19.000 Yeah, okay.

02:15:20.000 So this is.

02:15:20.000 I conflated the two.

02:15:21.000 China, China, China.

02:15:22.000 So they eat it.

02:15:23.000 If you cook it and you do a real good job cooking it, you don't trip.

02:15:27.000 But apparently, some people have not cooked it and eaten it and go, oh, wait a minute.

02:15:31.000 What are we cooking out of this?

02:15:34.000 You might be cooking out whatever the mushroom is giving you to let you see the spirit world or see the fairy world or the gnome world or whatever it is.

02:15:42.000 You can get it in restaurants.

02:15:44.000 Let's go.

02:15:45.000 I'd be like, hey, Undercook my.

02:15:49.000 Yes.

02:15:49.000 Just put it on some salad dressing.

02:15:51.000 Send that shit out. 1.00

02:15:52.000 Let's go. 1.00

02:15:53.000 I don't have a.

02:15:54.000 Unfortunately, I don't have a problem with mushrooms.

02:15:57.000 I think that.

02:15:58.000 And I just like being.

02:15:59.000 Unfortunately?

02:15:59.000 What do you mean?

02:16:00.000 Because, you know, some people are like, you shouldn't be on there.

02:16:03.000 But I don't have a problem with mushrooms.

02:16:06.000 Especially if I'm in a safe environment.

02:16:10.000 But being at the lows on mushrooms, that's not the best place to be.

02:16:18.000 Also, trying to fight it. 1.00

02:16:20.000 If you fight it, you're fucked. 1.00

02:16:22.000 If you start going and you start like, no, I don't like this. 1.00

02:16:25.000 Like, uh oh.

02:16:27.000 It's going to get dark on you.

02:16:30.000 I've had them in chocolate, like little chocolate squares, and it's been a time.

02:16:36.000 I don't, it's been a time.

02:16:38.000 Sometimes it can get rough.

02:16:39.000 To see little people, I definitely want to be somewhere where I just need to be somewhere safe.

02:16:48.000 Brian Simpson has a hilarious story about someone gave him a mushroom chocolate bar and he put it in his freezer and forgot. 0.99

02:16:55.000 Forgot that it was a mushroom bar and they just ate the whole thing and just went to Pluto. 0.98

02:17:04.000 He's like Dr. Manhattan sitting on Mars in a fucking lotus position. 0.96

02:17:09.000 This one's kind of strange. 0.98

02:17:10.000 It says, doesn't matter who you are or what you do, you're going to have the same experience as everybody else who's done it.

02:17:16.000 Okay.

02:17:17.000 At that point in time, when do we start to say maybe there's something in this substance, this compound, this molecule that lets you interact with something that's real?

02:17:27.000 That's around you.

02:17:28.000 If it's repeatable over and over and over again, if all these people see the same thing over and over and over again, and people have been writing about it since the beginning of time, they've been writing about elves and fairies and gnomes and magic people in the woods.

02:17:41.000 What do you think they were doing? 0.99

02:17:42.000 They were probably eating these fucking mushrooms. 0.99

02:17:44.000 So, it's this show that I watch that I still don't know what this show is about, but I've watched, I'm on season number four, and I have no idea what it is. 0.99

02:17:57.000 What shows it?

02:17:57.000 It's called From.

02:17:58.000 Ah, I've been watching it.

02:17:59.000 I love that show.

02:18:01.000 I'm in the middle of season four right now.

02:18:03.000 And so you know he's taking mushrooms.

02:18:04.000 The one guy did, yeah.

02:18:06.000 Well, you're spoiler alert.

02:18:07.000 No, but you know.

02:18:08.000 But you know already.

02:18:09.000 Big spoiler.

02:18:10.000 I know, but the people that are listening don't know.

02:18:11.000 Hey, the people.

02:18:12.000 It's still going to be fantastic. 0.74

02:18:13.000 Don't fuck this up.

02:18:14.000 It's good. 0.98

02:18:16.000 No, it's on Paramount.

02:18:17.000 They moved it.

02:18:18.000 One of these new shows that's been talked about is getting moved.

02:18:20.000 No, no, no.

02:18:21.000 That's still on Paramount.

02:18:23.000 Yeah.

02:18:24.000 For real.

02:18:24.000 It's MGM.

02:18:26.000 I think it says MGM.

02:18:28.000 Yo. 1.00

02:18:29.000 Great fucking show. 1.00

02:18:29.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:18:30.000 Very original.

02:18:31.000 I still.

02:18:32.000 Rome is officially on Netflix.

02:18:34.000 There it is.

02:18:35.000 And I'm saying that. 0.99

02:18:36.000 Oh, damn. 0.99

02:18:37.000 Oh, wait a minute. 1.00

02:18:37.000 Hold on. 1.00

02:18:38.000 Maybe it's on Netflix as well.

02:18:39.000 Yeah.

02:18:41.000 That's all I was saying.

02:18:41.000 Oh, that's what it is.

02:18:42.000 It came on.

02:18:43.000 Oh, I see.

02:18:45.000 But you watched all these seasons.

02:18:47.000 Good show.

02:18:48.000 But you have no idea what.

02:18:51.000 There's no rules.

02:18:53.000 And so I called my director and I said, hey, I want to make a show that is about whatever we're doing.

02:19:04.000 And he's like, well, give me an example.

02:19:06.000 I said, watch from.

02:19:08.000 Like, I've watched all of us.

02:19:10.000 I cannot tell you what this show is about.

02:19:14.000 It's like, I just noticed it's good.

02:19:17.000 For people that don't know, that want to watch it, it's these people trapped in this town.

02:19:22.000 They're all the same circumstance.

02:19:23.000 There's a downed tree in the road.

02:19:25.000 They can't go further.

02:19:27.000 So they turn around and they find themselves in a loop that keeps leading them through this same town.

02:19:31.000 To the same town.

02:19:32.000 Over and over and over and over again.

02:19:33.000 And no one in the town can escape.

02:19:35.000 And at nighttime, monsters come out.

02:19:37.000 And they look like people.

02:19:38.000 They look like a mailman.

02:19:40.000 They look very normal. 1.00

02:19:41.000 That scary ass milkman. 1.00

02:19:42.000 Oh, that milkman is insane. 1.00

02:19:46.000 That old lady, the old lady that knocks in the window. 0.99

02:19:49.000 Oh, man. 1.00

02:19:49.000 Terrifying. 1.00

02:19:50.000 It's a terrifying show.

02:19:52.000 It gives me anxiety, and I know it's all fake.

02:19:55.000 It's like, it's a crazy show.

02:19:59.000 Yeah.

02:19:59.000 And season four is even more bizarre.

02:20:03.000 Yeah.

02:20:03.000 Like, everything that I be thinking, I was like, yo, I think this is what it is.

02:20:09.000 And then it doesn't be that, but then it'll come, and I'm like, see?

02:20:14.000 But I'm like, see what?

02:20:15.000 Like, what am I saying?

02:20:16.000 Like, I don't know the.

02:20:18.000 Freak, this show is going.

02:20:19.000 They don't know, no one knows where it's going, but it's like Lost.

02:20:22.000 The same people that made Lost made that show.

02:20:25.000 Word, yeah, that's why it has that same sort of feel and like crazy.

02:20:29.000 Doesn't make nothing, nothing, nothing makes sense.

02:20:33.000 And very entertaining. 0.98

02:20:35.000 Lloyd tickles this shit out of me. 0.99

02:20:37.000 Lloyd is mad about every goddamn thing, like, but it's so, it's a crazy, it's crazy, but it's very interesting. 0.99

02:20:45.000 Like, I don't miss it. 0.98

02:20:47.000 I love it.

02:20:47.000 Yeah, I've been binging it, so I started.

02:20:51.000 I guess me and my wife started about a month ago or so, and we burned through the first three seasons, and now we're into the fourth.

02:21:02.000 Yeah, it's good.

02:21:02.000 And I think the next season's coming out in 2027.

02:21:05.000 But I don't really think the next season's the last season, unless they decide to keep it going.

02:21:10.000 Finale.

02:21:11.000 It's the finale?

02:21:12.000 They just announced that it's going to be the last season.

02:21:15.000 Maybe when that money comes rolling in.

02:21:18.000 But the thing about this kind of show is you could do whatever you want. 1.00

02:21:21.000 You go back in time, you could do wild shit. 0.98

02:21:23.000 Like, I don't want to give anything away, but there's no rules. 0.99

02:21:27.000 You can make anything happen.

02:21:29.000 You can make anything happen.

02:21:30.000 It's a very strange show, but it's very entertaining.

02:21:33.000 Oh, man.

02:21:34.000 It's a very entertaining show.

02:21:35.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:21:36.000 But if you want to just sit at home and watch shit and not do anything, man, you never picked a better time to be alive. 1.00

02:21:45.000 You could waste your whole life just staring at a screen. 1.00

02:21:48.000 Yeah, like, when I ask people, because my palette for what I take in.

02:21:54.000 Is different than a lot of people.

02:21:56.000 And I turn people on to a show.

02:21:58.000 Like when I turned my boy on to Pinky Blinders, I was like, yo.

02:22:01.000 Pinky Blinders is a great show.

02:22:03.000 I was like, yo, you got to watch Pinky Blinders.

02:22:04.000 He called me and was like, yo, this is a great show.

02:22:07.000 And I remember my boy D. Lay got so invested in what was the first show?

02:22:13.000 Motorcycle show that I turned him on to.

02:22:15.000 I know what you're talking about.

02:22:18.000 I never watched it.

02:22:20.000 What is that show?

02:22:21.000 That motorcycle show that everybody liked?

02:22:22.000 You know what I'm talking about, Channing?

02:22:24.000 That's it.

02:22:25.000 Sons of Anarchy.

02:22:26.000 I turned him on to Sons of Anarchy.

02:22:28.000 And it's a person on there that you kind of get invested in.

02:22:32.000 And I remember he called me and said something about him.

02:22:35.000 And I was like, yo, who?

02:22:37.000 Like, what?

02:22:38.000 What you say?

02:22:39.000 And I'm putting on my shoes.

02:22:41.000 And then I noticed, are you talking about the person. 0.92

02:22:44.000 On Sons of Anarchy, he said, Yeah, that's fucked up what they did. 0.99

02:22:50.000 I was like, Yo, you a crazy man. 0.99

02:22:52.000 He's like, No, I'm so invested. 1.00

02:22:54.000 I was like, Yo, man, you are a wild person.

02:22:58.000 But, you know, Sons of Anarchy, Pinky Blinders, like, I was big on Yellowstone.

02:23:05.000 And now the two spinoffs of Yellowstone, Marshalls and The Dutton Ranch, I can't not watch it.

02:23:13.000 Like, it's some good shows out there.

02:23:17.000 And,.

02:23:19.000 I just can't watch the typical stuff.

02:23:21.000 I got to watch something that has a little more to it than what normal people would watch.

02:23:29.000 Because I like to see normal people in shows, like something I can relate to.

02:23:34.000 The Dutton Ranch, you know, being Texas, this is how ranching is.

02:23:41.000 This is how I always experienced how ranching goes with cows and how you keep your land and all these different fights that people have over land. 0.99

02:23:52.000 I'm like, Shit is pretty interesting. 0.99

02:23:54.000 It's very interesting. 0.99

02:23:56.000 Taylor Sheridan's a friend of mine.

02:23:58.000 The guy made that.

02:24:00.000 He was on here the other day talking about it.

02:24:03.000 But the other show that I love is Landman.

02:24:05.000 Same kind of deal.

02:24:06.000 It's all about the oil industry.

02:24:08.000 You just realize, like, oh, Jesus, is this how all this works?

02:24:11.000 Yeah, it's other things happening in life.

02:24:14.000 And there's way more notorious people than a drug dealing show.

02:24:19.000 This is, man, crude oil is a business. 0.99

02:24:24.000 So it's such a big business, of course you're going to get devious shit going on. 0.99

02:24:28.000 You're going to get shit happening. 0.99

02:24:29.000 It has to. 0.98

02:24:30.000 Yeah.

02:24:31.000 The real world of oil must be nuts.

02:24:34.000 It must be nuts.

02:24:34.000 I mean, that's why we're in war right now.

02:24:36.000 And you have to be ruthless, you know, with oil.

02:24:41.000 Like, that's a big thing.

02:24:42.000 And I don't understand fake meat.

02:24:44.000 Like, why would people be giving somebody fake meat?

02:24:48.000 Well, because they make money selling fake meat.

02:24:51.000 That's why.

02:24:52.000 I mean, that's what a lot of people were trying to push while they're saying that cows are bad.

02:24:57.000 Cows and methane, the environment, man. 1.00

02:25:00.000 It's bullshit. 1.00

02:25:01.000 All they're doing is trying to. 1.00

02:25:03.000 Someone is pushing this idea that we need to stop eating meat because they're profiting off of us not eating meat.

02:25:08.000 That's what it is.

02:25:09.000 It's all it is.

02:25:11.000 It's not bad for you.

02:25:12.000 It's good for you.

02:25:12.000 You need it.

02:25:13.000 It's protein.

02:25:14.000 It's super healthy.

02:25:15.000 One of the best foods in the world for you.

02:25:17.000 There's just a bunch of horseshit out there saying that we need to eat less meat for the environment.

02:25:22.000 No, we need to figure out how to not pollute. 0.94

02:25:25.000 That's for sure.

02:25:25.000 But regenerative farms aren't polluting.

02:25:27.000 You're full of shit. 1.00

02:25:28.000 It's not true. 1.00

02:25:29.000 You know, if you want to say we need to stop doing factory farming, okay, maybe.

02:25:34.000 Yeah, that's probably a good thing to do. 1.00

02:25:36.000 But you need to figure out how to feed all these fucking people. 0.99

02:25:39.000 You've developed a system that's entirely reliant on massive amounts of animals moving through. 1.00

02:25:44.000 The amount of chickens that people eat in America every day is crazy.

02:25:50.000 Yeah.

02:25:51.000 What is the amount of chickens that get consumed in America every day?

02:25:55.000 Let's guess 20 million.

02:25:58.000 At least.

02:25:59.000 At least.

02:26:01.000 I'm going to say 50 million.

02:26:02.000 50 million chickens a day.

02:26:04.000 How many million chickens a day get killed?

02:26:07.000 That's a different question.

02:26:08.000 Oh, okay.

02:26:09.000 How many do we eat?

02:26:10.000 How many millions of chickens do we eat every day in America?

02:26:13.000 Because I know I can account for three in my house.

02:26:18.000 22 million chickens every day, son.

02:26:21.000 That's nuts.

02:26:23.000 That is a crazy amount.

02:26:24.000 That's way bigger than the entire residence of Los Angeles.

02:26:29.000 If every person was a chicken, we eat that amount in this country every day.

02:26:34.000 That's crazy.

02:26:35.000 In my home alone, if we roasting chicken, And we're going to get a roast chicken.

02:26:41.000 We're going to get three of them.

02:26:44.000 I didn't even know that I could eat a whole chicken by myself until I did it.

02:26:49.000 It's like, yo, man, this Muslim grocery store, they sell them in there.

02:26:57.000 It's already roasted.

02:26:58.000 And you get two garlic sauces with each chicken.

02:27:02.000 And once you dip a piece of that chicken in that garlic sauce, it's not going to survive.

02:27:07.000 It's like, I bought three of them because I know if two are going to make it home, I have to eat this one.

02:27:12.000 By myself, and they put on a piece of pita bread.

02:27:15.000 It's already roasted, and it's insane that I would eat a whole chicken by myself.

02:27:21.000 Estimates suggest 24 to 26 million chickens are killed every day in the United States for meat.

02:27:27.000 So if you don't want factory farming, you got to figure out a solution where you can get 26 million chickens a day, or you convince people they need to stop eating meat.

02:27:39.000 But if we look at, say, if I'm looking at a show, Game of Thrones or House of Dragons.

02:27:47.000 When I would see them sit down to eat, it was a lot of meat on that table.

02:27:53.000 Yeah.

02:27:54.000 Variations of meat.

02:27:55.000 It's a whole, I've never seen the king sit down.

02:27:58.000 It wasn't a whole entire pig on the table.

02:28:03.000 And then if you, most people haven't bought a lamb and you think that a lamb is enough.

02:28:11.000 It depends on what you, on who's there. 1.00

02:28:15.000 If it's it and it's after the fast and you put a lamb on a spew and all these Muslim families come to your house, that's not enough. 1.00

02:28:25.000 You need another lamb. 1.00

02:28:27.000 You need two lambs, like whole lambs.

02:28:29.000 Like, man, meat is delicious.

02:28:34.000 It's great for you, too.

02:28:35.000 Don't let anybody tell you any different.

02:28:37.000 They can, but I'm not really listening.

02:28:39.000 Like, when somebody tells me about a vegan situation, I'll listen to you.

02:28:45.000 But none of it is going in.

02:28:48.000 It's like, you know, I say something comes in one ear and goes out the other.

02:28:51.000 It's not even going in the ear.

02:28:53.000 It's like, I've already made my decision.

02:28:56.000 Like, okay, I feel you.

02:28:58.000 But I'm not really listening to you.

02:29:00.000 I'm eating the lamb.

02:29:01.000 Goat, I'm eating it.

02:29:03.000 Life eats life.

02:29:04.000 It's just the factory farming thing is the uncomfortable part.

02:29:08.000 That's the gross part.

02:29:09.000 And if you just were on a ranch, it's natural.

02:29:12.000 It's natural.

02:29:13.000 If you want to get overtaken, just let the animals just do their thing.

02:29:17.000 Exactly.

02:29:18.000 And see how many, see, see, don't you see a, I am legend taught you that.

02:29:25.000 Like, yo, how many antlers ran through a place, a stampede?

02:29:30.000 Like, it's a, so even like with the thing that happens in the ocean, sardines, right?

02:29:37.000 So, mass, all these mass sardines come one spot, then the whales come first, then the sharks come, and then we still get sardines.

02:29:49.000 After all these, this ecosystem is eating, we still get sardines.

02:29:54.000 You're not running out of natural, if you let everything do its thing.

02:29:59.000 You know how many jellyfish it is?

02:30:01.000 Somebody should start eating them.

02:30:02.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:30:03.000 Because that is a crazy.

02:30:05.000 Jellyfish can mob out.

02:30:08.000 Like mob out. 1.00

02:30:09.000 And they can kill you. 1.00

02:30:10.000 And they can kill you. 1.00

02:30:11.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:30:11.000 Somebody eat them. 1.00

02:30:13.000 Something eats them.

02:30:14.000 You can eat them at Chinese restaurants.

02:30:15.000 I've had jellyfish before.

02:30:17.000 Was it good?

02:30:17.000 I don't remember it being good.

02:30:20.000 I don't remember where I ate it, but I remember someone cooked a specific type of jellyfish, and I was like, okay.

02:30:25.000 I didn't even know you could cook that.

02:30:27.000 In Texas and Louisiana.

02:30:28.000 What kind of jellyfish are edible?

02:30:30.000 Find that out.

02:30:31.000 In Texas and Louisiana, the amount of crawfish that we eat in two months.

02:30:37.000 It's literally insane.

02:30:39.000 Imagine if they didn't.

02:30:40.000 Imagine how many crawfish there would be.

02:30:42.000 Imagine.

02:30:44.000 I know.

02:30:44.000 I can account for at least 50 pounds by myself.

02:30:49.000 I know.

02:30:50.000 Think of how many crawfish there would be if people weren't eating them.

02:30:53.000 Like when I was a kid, I grew up in Florida for a while.

02:30:56.000 We lived in Florida in Gainesville, and there were alligators.

02:30:58.000 Gainesville, Florida.

02:30:59.000 But they were protected.

02:31:01.000 Wow.

02:31:01.000 Back then, the alligators were protected.

02:31:03.000 Like the Everglades?

02:31:04.000 Well, it wasn't the Everglades quite.

02:31:07.000 Okay, hold on.

02:31:07.000 Edible jettlyfish.

02:31:09.000 Best known edible species in Asian cuisine.

02:31:12.000 Oh boy, try to say that word.

02:31:14.000 Ropilema escalentum, often referred to as the Japanese edible jellyfish.

02:31:21.000 That's a lot easier.

02:31:21.000 Salted in jellyfish.

02:31:22.000 Or flame jellyfish.

02:31:24.000 Yeah, so there are a few different species of jellyfish.

02:31:28.000 Anyway, my point was when I was a kid, alligators were protected and they were at this lake and you could see them and people would throw marshmallows in the water and the alligators would eat them.

02:31:37.000 And then now there's too many.

02:31:42.000 There's so many alligators there now, they can't get rid of them.

02:31:45.000 They're in every body of water.

02:31:47.000 Everywhere you go, there's alligators.

02:31:49.000 Yeah.

02:31:49.000 The entire Everglades is filled with alligators.

02:31:53.000 Golf courses are filled with alligators.

02:31:55.000 I remember when the kid got eaten.

02:31:59.000 Oh, Disney World?

02:32:00.000 Yeah.

02:32:00.000 And I was like, yo, that's insanity.

02:32:03.000 Because I don't trust a puddle of water in Florida.

02:32:07.000 No.

02:32:08.000 A puddle.

02:32:08.000 It could be a puddle.

02:32:09.000 I'm like, it's an alligator in there.

02:32:11.000 But what they removed, 400 some odd alligators from Disney World?

02:32:16.000 Oh, they remove them all the time.

02:32:18.000 They have to check every day.

02:32:20.000 Like, it's like they go back there and make sure that there's no alligators.

02:32:22.000 It's like a huge number that they do.

02:32:24.000 It's a huge number.

02:32:24.000 Yeah, like that's like maybe 24 this year, 40 or something this year.

02:32:29.000 But it's 400 and something overall.

02:32:31.000 Like, that's insane.

02:32:32.000 You know, Disney World has a bass fishing lake.

02:32:35.000 You can go bass fishing at Disney World.

02:32:37.000 There's like a little trip that you take.

02:32:40.000 You go there.

02:32:40.000 414 alligators removed from Disney World since Toddler's death 10 years ago.

02:32:47.000 That's a lot of monsters.

02:32:49.000 It's a lot of monsters, man.

02:32:51.000 They're legit monsters.

02:32:53.000 I remember when I was in Guam. 0.90

02:32:55.000 I was in Guam doing a show.

02:32:57.000 And I think the military moved there and it was a bird that they were trying to protect.

02:33:02.000 And so they killed all these snakes.

02:33:05.000 And this is how when you change the ecosystem to something, something happens.

02:33:09.000 So the snakes, not only were they eating that bird, but they were eating and controlling the toad population.

02:33:18.000 So when they got rid of the snake.

02:33:22.000 We were coming back from the show, and it's like it's literally hundreds of thousands of frogs that come out at night.

02:33:33.000 They everywhere.

02:33:34.000 It's like you just see them flat in the street because you can't not, you can't miss them.

02:33:39.000 It was hundreds of thousands of frogs on Guam.

02:33:44.000 And I was like, yo, man. 0.98

02:33:45.000 People fuck up everything. 0.97

02:33:46.000 They got to do something, man. 0.99

02:33:47.000 People meddle.

02:33:48.000 Yeah, they got to bring the snake back. 0.96

02:33:49.000 Yeah, got to bring the snake back. 0.76

02:33:50.000 Stop. 0.99

02:33:51.000 Stop. 1.00

02:33:52.000 Stop your bullshit. 1.00

02:33:55.000 People just meddle. 1.00

02:33:56.000 I mean, there are so many countries that are infested with animals that people brought in to kill other animals.

02:34:02.000 You know, like Australia has a giant feral cat problem.

02:34:05.000 They brought in feral cats, I think, to kill it.

02:34:08.000 I forget what species.

02:34:09.000 I think it was a toad they were trying to kill off. 1.00

02:34:11.000 My neighborhood has a goddamn cat problem. 1.00

02:34:15.000 My neighborhood is like one cat has some babies, and my family has something to do with it. 1.00

02:34:23.000 We fed the cat, and then shit. 1.00

02:34:26.000 Of course. 1.00

02:34:27.000 You want to be nice. 0.98

02:34:28.000 Meanwhile, they're killing billions of birds every year in this country.

02:34:32.000 Cats are.

02:34:33.000 I love cats.

02:34:34.000 I love cats too, but they kill billions.

02:34:36.000 House cats kill billions of birds and mammals in this country every year.

02:34:41.000 You don't have a bug problem if you have a cat in your house.

02:34:44.000 Because we had these water bugs, they call them cockroaches.

02:34:47.000 But I've watched it.

02:34:48.000 Before I left, the cat that's just outside, he was just slapping one around.

02:34:52.000 There's like five of them dead out there.

02:34:54.000 He was just slapping one around, just toying with him.

02:34:58.000 But I don't mind because then they never make it into my house.

02:35:02.000 It's like cats are.

02:35:04.000 You know about the Four Pests campaign that happened in China?

02:35:07.000 What is that?

02:35:08.000 What did they do?

02:35:08.000 It explains it to you in these little four pieces.

02:35:10.000 Under Mao, aimed at exterminating rats, flies, mosquitoes, and sparrows as a part of the Great Leap Forward, it was framed as a public hygiene and agricultural protection drive meant to reduce disease and protect grain from being eaten or contaminated.

02:35:23.000 Mass mobilization methods included trapping and poisoning rats, swatting flies and mosquitoes, and organized efforts to scare and kill sparrows.

02:35:34.000 Before you get to the end here, they had one little problem, so they introduced something else to fix that problem.

02:35:38.000 That created a new problem, so they introduced something else to.

02:35:41.000 Fix that problem.

02:35:41.000 Yeah.

02:35:42.000 It ended here with tens of millions of people dying from a famine because they didn't have the natural ecosystem to fix it.

02:35:49.000 This is crazy.

02:35:50.000 So, sparrows were targeted because they ate grain seeds, but they also consumed large numbers of crop eating insects.

02:35:57.000 Their near extinction caused an ecological imbalance, leading to insect population booms, lower crop yields, and contributing to Chinese famine, the Great Chinese Famine, which tens of millions died.

02:36:08.000 Wow.

02:36:09.000 You got to give something to get something.

02:36:10.000 Yeah, man. 1.00

02:36:12.000 Don't think you're smarter than nature, you dumb fuck. 1.00

02:36:16.000 You got to give something to get to it. 1.00

02:36:18.000 There's a balance out there, and we don't totally understand that balance.

02:36:21.000 What's this fish that we have now?

02:36:24.000 Asian carp, the one that's infested all the different lakes.

02:36:27.000 And then there's a snake head.

02:36:28.000 That's another one.

02:36:29.000 Then the joint that torpedoes up. 1.00

02:36:32.000 Oh, that's the Asian carp. 1.00

02:36:33.000 They fly through the air when you're in a boat.

02:36:35.000 They just, for whatever reason, when you're in a boat, they just try to throw themselves onto the boat.

02:36:40.000 LAUGHTER They're like, get me the fuck out of this lake. 0.89

02:36:44.000 There's so many of them. 1.00

02:36:45.000 And they don't have a natural predator.

02:36:47.000 And they bring them into places sometimes to clean up the algae.

02:36:51.000 And then also, now you have a carp problem.

02:36:54.000 Now the carp eat all the algae.

02:36:55.000 They eat everything.

02:36:56.000 Where your whole lake looks like a swimming pool, there's no algae left. 1.00

02:37:00.000 Look at these fucking things. 1.00

02:37:01.000 That is crazy. 1.00

02:37:04.000 That's the Illinois River.

02:37:05.000 I mean, this is just hundreds of fish just flying through the air everywhere they go.

02:37:11.000 How nuts is that?

02:37:12.000 You ever see people shoot them with bows and arrows?

02:37:15.000 So they wait for them to hop up in the end.

02:37:16.000 They try to catch them in the air with a bow and arrow with the string on it.

02:37:19.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:37:19.000 There's a bunch of people do that.

02:37:21.000 That's a very popular sport.

02:37:26.000 Is this fish edible?

02:37:27.000 I don't know.

02:37:29.000 I've never heard of anybody eat it.

02:37:30.000 I know people eat regular carp.

02:37:32.000 I don't know if Asian carp is edible.

02:37:36.000 Yep.

02:37:36.000 There you go.

02:37:38.000 It's lean and nutritious?

02:37:39.000 It has a clean, mild flavor.

02:37:41.000 Yeah.

02:37:42.000 So I would just have a net rolling behind me.

02:37:45.000 Filet of fish.

02:37:46.000 There you go.

02:37:47.000 Don't you guys need product?

02:37:48.000 There you go.

02:37:49.000 Get out there with bows and arrows and get it done.

02:37:52.000 How many crawfish does Texas and Louisiana consume in crawfish season?

02:37:57.000 That's a good question.

02:37:59.000 I guess you would have to do it in pounds, right?

02:38:00.000 Would you do it in pounds or millions of actual crawfish?

02:38:03.000 Because they don't measure them in individuals.

02:38:07.000 They may have by weight, right?

02:38:09.000 Because they're cows. 1.00

02:38:10.000 They go by weight.

02:38:11.000 How many pounds of crawfish do you think?

02:38:13.000 Texas, just say Texas and Louisiana in a year.

02:38:18.000 Oh, man.

02:38:18.000 50 million?

02:38:19.000 I have to ask again, but it did give me 90% of the farmed crawfish comes from Louisiana.

02:38:25.000 Yeah.

02:38:27.000 Wow.

02:38:27.000 90%.

02:38:28.000 How many pounds?

02:38:29.000 Yeah, that didn't give me the answer.

02:38:31.000 How many pounds?

02:38:34.000 How many pounds does Texas and Louisiana consume in a year?

02:38:39.000 I'm going to say 2 million pounds.

02:38:41.000 No, it's got to be more than that.

02:38:42.000 Really?

02:38:43.000 2 million pounds is a lot. 0.97

02:38:46.000 It's fucking way more than that. 0.97

02:38:48.000 What is it? 0.98

02:38:49.000 70% of the consumed amount is eaten in Louisiana, and the total is upwards of 150 million pounds.

02:38:58.000 Yeah, I'm trying to tell you.

02:38:59.000 120 to 150 million annually.

02:39:02.000 Whoa.

02:39:03.000 Yeah.

02:39:04.000 Just in Louisiana, 70, which is almost 100 million pounds of that, is just in Louisiana.

02:39:10.000 That's crazy. 0.98

02:39:12.000 Between crawfish boils and crawfish egg toffee, that is fucking delicious. 0.99

02:39:18.000 Hey, that's delicious. 0.99

02:39:19.000 Fang, that is a crazy thing.

02:39:20.000 This doesn't have a number, it just says tens of millions.

02:39:23.000 Well, all we needed, we got the Louisiana.

02:39:25.000 I would have thought that would be to double what the whole country ate.

02:39:30.000 That's crazy. 0.99

02:39:30.000 Like, Maryland actually thinks that they are big on crap, and we just be shaking our head like, Okay. 0.99

02:39:42.000 I think we ship crab to them. 0.99

02:39:46.000 The Chesapeake Bay cannot outdo the Gulf of Mexico.

02:39:49.000 No.

02:39:50.000 Gulf of America now, by the way.

02:39:52.000 It is.

02:39:52.000 We still.

02:39:53.000 We still.

02:39:56.000 I don't think Mexico agreed.

02:39:59.000 I don't think they did either.

02:40:02.000 This is not the Gulf of America.

02:40:05.000 We're not saying that.

02:40:07.000 That's hilarious.

02:40:10.000 Hey, brother.

02:40:11.000 It's great to talk to you again, as always.

02:40:12.000 It's always fun.

02:40:14.000 Man.

02:40:14.000 Very good to do.

02:40:15.000 Thank you.

02:40:15.000 Do it more often.

02:40:16.000 Man, I'm here.

02:40:18.000 Okay.

02:40:19.000 Let's do it.

02:40:19.000 It's always fun.

02:40:20.000 Yeah.

02:40:21.000 Tell everybody if they want to consume all your specials.

02:40:24.000 All of it's on YouTube.

02:40:25.000 Is it?

02:40:25.000 All of it's on YouTube, but you can go to ali sadik.com.

02:40:29.000 The new special out, My Father, is getting busy right now.

02:40:35.000 It is a great special.

02:40:39.000 It really is.

02:40:39.000 Where did you record this?

02:40:41.000 That was in Detroit.

02:40:44.000 Beautiful.

02:40:44.000 Like I said, I love what you do.

02:40:46.000 I love the fact that you're so prolific and that you've built this whole thing just on hard work.

02:40:52.000 So, congratulations.

02:40:53.000 Appreciate you.

02:40:53.000 Thank you very much.

02:40:55.000 Always good to see you.

02:40:58.000 Bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 07, 2026

Joe Rogan Experience #2523 - Ali Siddiq

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