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00:01:52.000A lot of times if you have a small business and people sell out packages and shit, you have to go to the post office and they have to weigh all that stuff.
00:03:26.000If you've ever heard us talk about Ting on this show, Hover is owned by the same people that own Ting, and it's a domain name company.
00:03:35.000And they have the same approach that Ting has.
00:03:37.000You know, Ting's approach is trying to rip people off.
00:03:39.000Try to give people a good product at a good price and keep everybody happy and make it easy.
00:03:45.000And they put in things like free Whois domain name privacy, which when you register a site, like what was the one that you registered last time?
00:04:35.000Wednesday night at the Ice House, we have a big fat comedy show with Brian Redband, Burt Kreischer, Tommy Segura, Tony Hinchcliffe, and me.
00:06:12.000Does that ever get to you when guys shit talk you?
00:06:14.000Because you're like, if people didn't know you, alright?
00:06:16.000If the average person did not know what you do, besides the look, you know, that you're physically strong, they would never think that you're a fighter.
00:07:21.000So I'm not scared to admit that I'm scared.
00:07:23.000And it's almost like when you don't admit you're scared, it's like you're protecting yourself from evolving.
00:07:28.000Because the only way you can ever be realistic about a situation and get better at anything in life is you've got to accurately address what's happening.
00:10:45.000Let me tell you, you're a very smart guy.
00:10:47.000You know how to dig into people's minds.
00:10:50.000And as much as I like you, I hate that about you.
00:10:54.000Because he put me on the spot right now, but he's a very smart guy.
00:10:57.000But no, no, I can't go too deep into this.
00:11:00.000Listen, if I was on an alien spacecraft and I had sex with an alien, like I'm assuming you did, I feel like I would just come out and talk about it.
00:11:09.000I don't know why you would hold that back.
00:11:54.000Have any of these experiences happened while you've been in a dream state or where you've just been dreaming or just asleep and you were woken up?
00:13:44.000I've had a joke where you're driving down the street, like on the highway, and you're just kind of dazed out.
00:13:48.000And you're like, wait, how long have I been...
00:13:49.000I've been dazed out for like 20 minutes.
00:13:52.000What have I been doing for 20 minutes?
00:13:53.000You can totally go on autopilot, yeah.
00:13:55.000And then you just realize almost all of a sudden you're home.
00:13:58.000But the thing about being exhausted and sleep and having these experiences at night, there's a chemical your brain makes that's one of the most powerful psychedelic drugs known to man.
00:14:11.000So one of the things they're trying to connect, it's called DMT, and one of the things they're trying to connect is people having near-death experiences and people that have had UFO, alien abduction type experiences, and this chemical.
00:14:24.000And that they can introduce this chemical into the human body, and these people have very similar experiences to what they had when they had a UFO encounter or when they had a white light.
00:18:09.000The speculation is that it happens during REM sleep.
00:18:12.000I don't think they have the most accurate way of measuring it.
00:18:15.000But they know it's in the body and they believe, the theory is that it comes out during periods of heavy stress or when your body thinks it's going to die or in REM sleep.
00:18:25.000Those are the times that you have higher levels of this stuff in your neurochemical soup.
00:18:34.000Why would your brain produce an incredibly potent psychedelic drug?
00:18:38.000So a lot of people that are having these nighttime experiences could be just varying levels of this chemical that's going around in your brain.
00:18:46.000But that doesn't mean that these experiences aren't real.
00:18:48.000We don't know what the fuck sleeping is anyway.
00:18:51.000You shut your eyes, you shut off, you don't exist in this plane, and your consciousness goes somewhere else.
00:18:57.000Like, literally, you have no memory of a giant chunk of your day, and we have no problem with it, and yet we don't connect it to any other realm or the idea of there being other dimensions.
00:19:08.000You go into another dimension when you go to sleep.
00:19:13.000And for all intents and purposes, you are in another dimension.
00:19:16.000And if while you're in that other dimension, your brain is being pumped with this psychedelic chemical, That when you take it, when you're sober, makes you have these incredible experiences.
00:19:24.000It just seems like a normal thing to look into.
00:19:51.000Whatever that is, you know, is just accepted.
00:19:54.000If sleeping didn't exist, it would be the craziest fucking thing.
00:19:58.000If all of a sudden you told people that they had to shut off for eight hours a night and just completely not be aware, they'd be like, what are you talking about?
00:22:24.000Make the fish look around and drop the fish back in the water.
00:22:28.000The fish after, he's going to go back to his friend and he's going to tell the other fish, man, Abel pulled out of the water and people were breathing air.
00:22:56.000So maybe, in a way, we're all like fish.
00:22:59.000And maybe there is something, like you said, like when you see another universe or another world or something, and we don't know.
00:23:07.000And we're right next to it, but we don't know.
00:23:09.000And if that's why I'm doing research, I want to see, you know, I want to grow as a human being, find what's the truth, even though I probably will never find out the truth.
00:23:18.000But I want to get closer and closer and find my own research, see what's happening, you know, and we're all in the same pattern, you know.
00:23:25.000You know what I think the problem with people wanting to find the truth is there is no truth.
00:23:42.000And to call it the truth, like to figure out the whole big thing, it's almost impossible for our brains to grasp.
00:23:49.000Like an ant doesn't know what a cell phone tower is.
00:23:52.000It's almost impossible for our brains to grasp the enormity of going from protons and cells and an animal and a planet and a galaxy and a universe and multiple universes.
00:24:10.000There's no way you're going to be able to take all the things that are going in all over the world and understand it all and understand the pieces that it falls into.
00:24:56.000And then within the last 10,000 years, that has become, you know, watching like space documentaries and getting on the internet and it's too much.
00:25:34.000It's DMT. It's these Amazon Indians, they make it in a brew, and the active ingredient in this brew is DMT, and they have these ceremonies.
00:25:45.000And they all get together and they'll play music and this guy like blows tobacco smoke in your face and you drink this stuff and an hour and 20 minutes later they enter into the spirit world.
00:25:55.000Have life-changing visions of the wildest physical manifestations of your imagination you could ever possibly think of and dream of.
00:28:21.000Now I'm focusing on my career right now.
00:28:23.000I wanted to be the best at what I do, and I want to be the guy that made the difference in the sport, help the sport, the UFC, grow and be more mainstream everywhere.
00:28:36.000Well, you've already done that just by being who you are, by your personality, your ability to just be a normal guy who just happens to be one of the baddest motherfuckers on the planet.
00:28:47.000Yeah, but it still is a lot of things to do.
00:29:22.000I've always been a big, big fan of MMA, and I think that it's so important that there's all these other organizations going on, like that MFC up in Canada, and it used to be Strikeforce, and now there's Bellator's doing really well.
00:29:36.000It's so important to have a bunch of different outlets For guys to pursue their careers.
00:29:42.000But up in Canada, it was just like that TKO organization, right?
00:29:44.000Yeah, it was pretty much only the TKO. You guys fought in the ring?
00:34:34.000Yeah, there was no referee stopping the fight.
00:34:36.000Yeah, no referee, no round, no athletic commission, no weight class, no this, no that, no A. Do you see fights where fights get stopped quickly?
00:36:26.000If you don't have pads on your shins and you're kicking people in the face, like, come on, that's crazy.
00:36:32.000Like, you're going to pad little knuckles?
00:36:33.000And yeah, you can cut people more, but it also breaks your hand more.
00:36:36.000It's just, if you want to, if the sport...
00:36:38.000If you're trying to have it be realistic, it's almost like bad to allow people to wear gloves because it allows them to tee off and punch as hard as they can without worrying about breaking their hands.
00:36:51.000And, you know, you could break your hand, but, you know, you hit a guy with a good punch in the jaw, you know, bare knuckle, I don't think he will break your hand, you know?
00:37:06.000You would punch much harder, of course, because the tape, I don't think it's the glove, I think it's the tape that holds the wrist, so there is no movement in the wrist and everything, all the impact makes it harder.
00:37:18.000Yeah, I think the hand wrap definitely aids the person who's punching.
00:37:22.000But you also would be really cognizant of only punching with the first two knuckles.
00:37:27.000Because in boxing, You know, you're taught to punch and concentrate on those knuckles, but in reality, a lot of times when you're throwing combinations, you're hitting them with all parts of your hand.
00:37:37.000Whereas you're taught in karate, the idea of punching, you know, like a makiwara over and over and over again.
00:42:50.000Yeah, I still incorporate a lot of those techniques, but I do more just regular Muay Thai now than anything else.
00:42:58.000Because I think all those techniques, like the spinning back kick and wheel kick, for a guy like you that has a strong karate background or a guy who picks things up really quickly, those are good techniques to learn.
00:43:10.000But for everyday use, it's hard to pull those things off unless you're doing it on a regular basis.
00:43:18.000They become normal when you're fighting in Taekwondo tournaments, and everybody's doing it, and you're doing it every day.
00:43:23.000But in MMA, there's so many other fucking things.
00:43:26.000To have the type of leg dexterity that you see the top-level Taekwondo guys have, it's so hard to have that along with wrestling, along with boxing, along with jiu-jitsu.
00:43:38.000How do you manage all your different skill sets?
00:43:42.000Do you have 20% of your time goes to this, 30% goes to that.
00:44:01.000But every day I find time, I go to Freddie Roach to work on my boxing.
00:44:05.000And this time I'm on my boxing pretty much.
00:44:10.000And when I'm gonna go to New York, for example, because I have to go to New York for the book promo and stuff, I'm gonna do my Jiu Jitsu with John Danner.
00:44:28.000And this is in between fights, so you don't have a fight scheduled, so now you're just in the skill development phase, is that what it is?
00:44:35.000Yeah, and that's where my training is fun, because I train for myself to get better and I try stuff.
00:44:41.000Like now, you see me, if I go roll with my friend, like at this academy, I roll, I try stuff that I would maybe not have the guts to try in normal time because it's risky.
00:44:51.000So I try it, oh, I get tapped, and I tap, and I laugh.
00:45:20.000That's how you develop new techniques.
00:45:21.000And there is an ego issue too, like with guys who are not that good at jiu-jitsu, like you see it a lot, like maybe the strikers, they don't want to roll because they don't like getting tapped.
00:48:36.000When I bring my training partner here, let's say I bring guys to train from my last training camp.
00:48:45.000For my training camp to mimic Nick Diaz, I told these guys, I said, listen, there is this guy, this guy, you're not going to train with him.
00:48:52.000Because he's like, and they're all like, why, why, why?
00:48:55.000It's like, because every time someone trains with you, it happens to an injury.
00:52:16.000I made, I organized the training for him to come teach the afternoon class, the late afternoon, not the morning class because I said, I was thinking, oh, he's going to sleep.
00:52:24.000No, he arrived from Paris the night before, went out all night, went in an after party, went in an after, after party and arrived straight to training.
00:52:32.000Didn't even go to his hotel room and train and kick everyone's ass in Muay Thai.
00:52:38.000Everybody was like, what the hell is this?
00:52:41.000And even when he left, because he stayed for like a week, when he left, the producer of the Ultimate Fighter came to see me.
00:52:48.000George, George, George, we need to get this guy.
00:54:15.000I think CBS has a bunch of different channels that they own.
00:54:19.000But if they start airing those, like, high-level, you know, like Gokhan Saki and Daniel Gita and all these, like, high-level heavyweight guys, that's some wild shit to watch.
00:54:31.000It's got to be interesting, you know, to bring that here.
00:54:34.000Yeah, it's so funny how, like, the difference in just, like, a pure, straight-up kickboxing match, you know, when guys have no worries about being taken down, you know, and when people say, oh, like, the level of kickboxing in MMA is not as high as the level of kickboxing.
00:59:57.000But I should have, when I got punched and wobbled, because Matt Serra hit very hard, and I never seen that punch coming, I should have stepped back or hold him or go for it, you know, instead of trying to slugfest with him.
01:00:09.000And Condit, when I got dropped, I said to myself, I said, okay, like, don't go back into, because I couldn't go back, try to go a single, go back up right away.
01:00:18.000I said, okay, use the guard, up, up, up, close, close everything.
01:00:21.000And, and, you know, because I was dizzy a little bit too, you know, I didn't see the kick coming at all.
01:00:26.000I follow his body and his kick come on the side and on the temple.
01:00:30.000He, he, he, he damaged my, uh, temple artery, uh, By the way, it was a hard kick, man.
01:01:22.000At one point in time, there's been a lot of talk, at one point in time, of you guys getting together and you and Anderson Silva meeting maybe at a catchweight or something like that and fighting in a super fight.
01:01:36.000Yeah, is that question everybody asks me?
01:01:37.000They ask me that even before I came back from my injury, you know?
01:05:23.000Like sprints and jumps and things along those lines?
01:05:26.00060, 100 and 400. And you feel like that's the best kind of exercise for MMA? Yeah, if I would have started all over again, because back in the day, I used to train like an idiot.
01:05:37.000I was doing bodybuilder and watching movies like Rocky and all this, and Jean-Claude Van Damme, Arnold.
01:06:00.000Then, after we discovered that bodybuilder is not suited for mixed martial arts, it's better to do like, I was doing more like strength conditioning kind of stuff.
01:06:11.000Then I found out after the strength conditioning, it was better, and Olympic lifting, I think it's better than gymnastics.
01:06:16.000Do you think it's better for your joints as well?
01:11:15.000It has nothing to do with MMA. You talk about MMA, but it's people that like it normally.
01:11:20.000Because it has not been written by an MMA guy.
01:11:23.000The guy who's written, he doesn't know nothing about MMA. Even the MMA people, sometimes they might read it and say, the terms are, because sometimes a little mistake we correct in the future that it would be misunderstood, but it's a book about philosophy and the mindset of someone where I come from and how I became successful,
01:12:37.000Enter in the code word JRE in the microphone in the upper right-hand corner and save yourself some shekels, son.
01:12:45.000For any information on Brian's upcoming comedy shows, go to DeathSquad.tv, including podcasts that you can get only on iTunes under the Death Squad label.
01:12:58.000Like Ryan Keely's Muff Said and Kevin Pereira's Pointless.
01:13:04.000It's also the Death Squad Ice House Chronicles, which we do on a regular basis.
01:13:10.000And we probably will do it tomorrow night.
01:13:13.000We're going to do one tomorrow night, you dirty bitches.
01:13:14.000Tomorrow night we'll see you guys at the world-famous Ice House Comedy Club in Pasadena with Tommy Segura, Tony Hinchcliffe, Burt Kreischer, Brian Redman, and meself.