The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #365 - Kelly Starrett, Glen Cordoza

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00:01:08.000 So I can't wait to go to Canada again.

00:01:10.000 When are you going back to Texas?

00:01:11.000 I want to go to Texas so bad.

00:01:13.000 I know you do.

00:01:13.000 Well, you should probably schedule a gig.

00:01:15.000 I know.

00:01:15.000 Why don't you get a night at the Houston Improv?

00:01:18.000 I would love to.

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00:01:21.000 I want to do a week of Houston, Dallas, Austin. 0.98

00:01:25.000 Wouldn't that be awesome?

00:01:26.000 Dude, you can do it.

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00:01:27.000 Just make some calls.

00:01:28.000 All right.

00:01:29.000 Kelly Starrett's here, and we're going to get cracking.

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00:01:36.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.

00:01:42.000 What are you doing?

00:01:44.000 Is that your new mix? 1.00

00:01:46.000 You are not a DJ, you fuck. 1.00

00:01:48.000 No. 1.00

00:01:49.000 Kelly, how are you, sir?

00:01:50.000 I'm good, man.

00:01:51.000 Thank you very much for doing this, man.

00:01:52.000 I really appreciate it.

00:01:53.000 Absolutely, my pleasure.

00:01:54.000 Forrest Griffin recommends you.

00:01:55.000 That's good enough for me.

00:01:56.000 And your book is fascinating.

00:01:58.000 I started looking into your book, and as I was telling you before the podcast, I've been having some back issues myself.

00:02:03.000 I have like a bulging disc in my neck.

00:02:05.000 The name Becoming a Supple Leopard, where'd you come up with that name?

00:02:09.000 A couple ideas.

00:02:10.000 One is I have some tactical friends who are scary, and they're always stiff and messed up.

00:02:16.000 And, you know, he told me, Kelly, the leopard doesn't stretch.

00:02:19.000 And I was like, well, that's good.

00:02:20.000 I'm glad you're using that leopard defense, because A, you're not a leopard.

00:02:22.000 Two, you don't know how a leopard feels.

00:02:24.000 But then I started thinking about it.

00:02:25.000 Leopard can sort of attack and defend at full physical capacity.

00:02:28.000 You don't see the leopard activating its glutes or warming up or prepping.

00:02:31.000 It's just awesome.

00:02:33.000 So why the hell don't you have full physical capacity?

00:02:36.000 Why are you in pain?

00:02:37.000 You know, the resting state of the human being should be pain-free.

00:02:39.000 You're designed to be 110. What's going on?

00:02:42.000 Why is that? 1.00

00:02:43.000 It's because you suck at moving. 0.99

00:02:45.000 And you're a human being. 1.00

00:02:46.000 You make a ton of movement errors.

00:02:48.000 No one ever gave you the software for your beautiful hardware.

00:02:50.000 You know, you're beat up.

00:02:51.000 You take some injuries. 1.00

00:02:52.000 You eat like crap sometimes. 0.99

00:02:54.000 That's a big one, isn't it? 0.99

00:02:55.000 The software for you, beautiful hardware, that goes with the mind as well.

00:02:58.000 Like, just managing being a human.

00:02:59.000 It's difficult.

00:03:00.000 It's not that easy.

00:03:01.000 Well, who says it should be, like, not an easy skill?

00:03:04.000 So, the bottom line is that we've been sort of kind of sold this horrible mess that, like, you can just get on the treadmill.

00:03:10.000 You don't even have to think. 1.00

00:03:12.000 Bullshit. 1.00

00:03:12.000 Like, you are a very, very skilled human being. 1.00

00:03:15.000 That skill takes work.

00:03:16.000 Probably work every day.

00:03:18.000 So, meaning that you can't just get on a treadmill and be a healthy person with no pain.

00:03:23.000 Like, you have to do physical, real physical work.

00:03:26.000 You have to do real workouts.

00:03:27.000 Well, I think we've moved beyond.

00:03:29.000 I think everyone knows you need to probably put the time in under some weights.

00:03:32.000 You probably need to breathe really hard.

00:03:34.000 What we're really talking about is being a skilled human.

00:03:36.000 Can you do everything that a human being needs to be able to do?

00:03:38.000 Yes or no.

00:03:39.000 Can you squat down with your feet together like you're in Thailand having dinner?

00:03:43.000 Yes or no.

00:03:43.000 If you can't, you don't have flank or range of motion.

00:03:45.000 Why not?

00:03:45.000 That's why you have plantar fasciitis.

00:03:46.000 That's why you tore your Achilles.

00:03:48.000 This is why you have back pain.

00:03:49.000 So the thing is that you should be very, very skilled in your thinking.

00:03:54.000 Very, very skilled in your...

00:03:55.000 and cultivate the practice.

00:03:56.000 350 years ago, Musashi writes the book of the Five Rings.

00:03:58.000 He says, your combat stance is your everyday stance.

00:04:01.000 And you're like, whoa, that's so deep.

00:04:03.000 Where the short sword goes, your belly needs to be firm.

00:04:05.000 He's talking about your core, you know?

00:04:07.000 From your feet to your knees, you need to be able to create tension.

00:04:09.000 He's probably talking about torque and having your feet straight.

00:04:11.000 So, we're not the first people to take a crack at it, but we are the same people who've made the same mistakes over and over again, and you should be skilled.

00:04:18.000 We don't teach the skill.

00:04:19.000 You've been spending your genetics, and then you wake up one day and you're herniated disc, and you're like, what the hell happened?

00:04:23.000 So your skill in movement, like you need to know how to stand.

00:04:28.000 You need to know the correct posture, is that what you're saying?

00:04:30.000 Like that kind of thing?

00:04:31.000 Well, look, my life's work as a dream as a child was not to lecture adult men about posture.

00:04:36.000 Like this is not the apex, but it turns out Good standing position in yoga is called Tadasana, right?

00:04:42.000 You should know how to do that, yes or no.

00:04:44.000 And it's also the setup position for the deadlift.

00:04:46.000 The problem is that it's hard to kind of understand what positions you need to be in, what is full range of motion.

00:04:53.000 Finally, we have a language, and that language is the modern language of strength and conditioning.

00:04:56.000 If you can press and pull and roll, you know, we, you know, you hear the debunked, thinking about the old strength coaches, say like bench press, it ties the shoulders to the arms, and you're like, what the hell does that mean?

00:05:09.000 It turns out if you teach kids to create torque off of a fixed object and explain what the purpose of that is, you need to be skilled, well then, it turns out in guard, you can create torque off of any position.

00:05:18.000 You can grab the shopping cart and Be in a stable shoulder position.

00:05:22.000 So it turns out that the posture that we adopt day to day, like right now, are you in a good position or a bad position?

00:05:28.000 Horrible position.

00:05:29.000 I'm always in a horrible position 24 hours a day.

00:05:31.000 That's right.

00:05:31.000 So is it okay to be unconscious in a zombie and turn your abs off?

00:05:34.000 You've already scared him so much that he'll never work out for like the next month.

00:05:38.000 He's not going to work out now.

00:05:39.000 You're freaking him out, man.

00:05:40.000 No, I just have this thing every time, like I know I slouch.

00:05:43.000 My whole life is slouching. 0.96

00:05:44.000 If I sit like this, it looks like I'm trying to show off my delicious boobs. 0.95

00:05:48.000 But you should. 0.97

00:05:49.000 That's how you should think.

00:05:50.000 I know.

00:05:50.000 Is this how you want to be healthy?

00:05:52.000 Just tell the world, here's my delicious booze.

00:05:54.000 I don't like it.

00:05:55.000 But I've been doing that lately, man.

00:05:57.000 And I'm telling you, there's been a bunch of different things that I've done lately that have mitigated my back pain.

00:06:01.000 But one of them is I've been really, really cognizant of my posture.

00:06:05.000 For like the first time in my life, I have a horrible slump.

00:06:08.000 And I just didn't think it was no big deal.

00:06:09.000 I thought it was like, so I don't like standing up straight. 0.99

00:06:11.000 What do I give a fuck? 0.99

00:06:12.000 But I didn't think it had like health repercussions. 0.99

00:06:15.000 I don't even think the damage it can do for your discs.

00:06:18.000 Well, let's look at it.

00:06:19.000 So, you know, you get away with it.

00:06:21.000 You're a pretty good athlete.

00:06:22.000 You have been an athlete your whole life.

00:06:23.000 You know, you're a black belt. 0.98

00:06:24.000 You know how to train.

00:06:25.000 You take care of yourself doing these things.

00:06:27.000 And all of a sudden, something's not working, right?

00:06:29.000 And the type one error that we make as humans is that, hey, I've always done it.

00:06:34.000 And I could be the best in the world.

00:06:35.000 I know so many gold medalists and so many world champions, world record holders who have terrible positions and bad mechanics and pain.

00:06:41.000 They're still the best in the world.

00:06:43.000 So, you can't use that I'm the best in the world excuse.

00:06:46.000 The issue is, are you optimized?

00:06:48.000 Are you in the best position possible for you?

00:06:50.000 Are we going to maximize your potential?

00:06:51.000 Comma, we use pain as a lagging indicator.

00:06:54.000 I wait until I have pain, swelling, numbness and tingling, loss of range of motion.

00:06:59.000 Then suddenly, oh, I have a problem.

00:07:00.000 That's like driving your car around until it blows up and then being like, I should put some oil in. 0.98

00:07:03.000 Yeah, I know I fucked up in not getting regular massages. 0.99

00:07:06.000 I know I fucked up by not doing enough yoga. 0.99

00:07:08.000 I know. 1.00

00:07:09.000 I know I fucked up. 0.99

00:07:09.000 No, no, no. 0.99

00:07:10.000 This is the problem.

00:07:11.000 Really?

00:07:12.000 Yeah.

00:07:13.000 So, massage is great.

00:07:15.000 It helps you down-regulate, take care of your tissues, you know, having someone's hands up.

00:07:18.000 It's really a good idea, right?

00:07:19.000 It's a great idea.

00:07:19.000 And stretching?

00:07:20.000 So, but the problem with stretching, we'll talk about that.

00:07:23.000 Stretching doesn't work.

00:07:23.000 Stop stretching.

00:07:24.000 After you work out?

00:07:25.000 Stop stretching.

00:07:26.000 Well, how do you get really flexible?

00:07:27.000 Well, we take a systems approach that doesn't include the word stretching because stretching has sort of been co-opted by thinking about lengthening your muscles.

00:07:35.000 So let's take your neck, for example, right?

00:07:38.000 One of the things we look at is, you know, is your spine in an optimal position?

00:07:42.000 Yes or no?

00:07:43.000 And what we see is that if you're rounded in your thoracic spine, we'll get that little hunch, right?

00:07:47.000 Which is easy if you're texting or sitting all day long.

00:07:50.000 Your head ends up a little forward.

00:07:52.000 For every inch in front of your center of mass your head is, it's plus 10 pounds.

00:07:56.000 So your head weighs 11 pounds.

00:07:57.000 Plus an inch, it's another 22 pounds.

00:07:59.000 It's probably 8. Shit. 1.00

00:08:01.000 My head is super thin. 1.00

00:08:03.000 It's not a lot going on in there.

00:08:05.000 So let's extrapolate that out.

00:08:06.000 So running 400 meters, it's 330 steps, right?

00:08:09.000 That's 330 loads.

00:08:10.000 If you look at sort of the flexion load moment on your neck, extrapolate it out times 4. The bottom line is that your nervous system isn't optimized.

00:08:20.000 The physiology of the human being is no longer debatable.

00:08:23.000 We know what the best position is.

00:08:24.000 Right.

00:08:24.000 If I put your head in this position, I can decrease your force production instantaneously.

00:08:28.000 When did everybody sort of come to a consensus on this?

00:08:31.000 Like when did people really start understanding like real physical training and how do you correct bad posture and issues like what you're talking about?

00:08:40.000 Is this like fairly recent information?

00:08:41.000 I would say this is very recent.

00:08:42.000 And the reason it's recent, when did the book come out, right?

00:08:45.000 When did we start mobility-wide?

00:08:47.000 The issue is that for the first...

00:08:48.000 What is WOD? Workout of the Day?

00:08:49.000 Is that what it is? 1.00

00:08:50.000 All those CrossFit fuckers and their acronyms. 0.99

00:08:53.000 Hey, we'll do thrusters later. 0.99

00:08:55.000 Thrusters?

00:08:55.000 Look, the bottom line is...

00:08:57.000 The guy who's got a book about being a supple leopard and then he wants to do thrusters.

00:09:02.000 What is this show?

00:09:04.000 Fill in the blank.

00:09:05.000 I'm from San Francisco.

00:09:06.000 I lived there as a child.

00:09:08.000 It's a great town.

00:09:10.000 Confed thrusters.

00:09:12.000 Okay, buddy.

00:09:14.000 Settle down over there.

00:09:16.000 I don't remember where we were.

00:09:18.000 He's a grown man.

00:09:19.000 We were talking about how long this information has been out there.

00:09:23.000 So look at what's happened with the onset of the internet.

00:09:26.000 We have literally kind of hit some kind of threshold where for the first time, in real time, we have the best practices, test-retests being shared, platforms, coaches are talking to us, strength coaches talking to nutritionists.

00:09:39.000 Let's use your own show as a model. 0.75

00:09:43.000 Look at the people you've brought on, right?

00:09:45.000 Experts in their fields.

00:09:46.000 Legitimate.

00:09:47.000 And for the first time we start to kind of tie in these very disparate systems.

00:09:52.000 You know, suddenly nutrition guys are talking to gymnasts, talking to physios.

00:09:56.000 And we were able to connect the dots in ways that we wouldn't.

00:09:58.000 I mean, 2,000 years ago the yogis figured out that putting your arms over your head didn't align the chakras.

00:10:03.000 It put the shoulder into a stable position, you know?

00:10:05.000 And so it's not like we haven't taken a crack at the human condition before.

00:10:09.000 But for the first time, we can sort of integrate the fields.

00:10:12.000 Well, it turns out that that shoulder position is the same position you should have your shoulder if you're pressing or if you're a young gymnast blocking.

00:10:19.000 It's the same shoulder.

00:10:20.000 The motor control technique has been worked out for us because humans are obsessed with performance.

00:10:25.000 They're obsessed with lifting heavier weights and going faster.

00:10:29.000 When we start to kind of underlie the physiology and match that up with the principles, now, like, look, if you go into any gym on the planet, people are front squatting and running and Olympic lifting and swinging kettlebells.

00:10:40.000 I mean, my mom brags about her deadlift PR, right?

00:10:43.000 She has an artificial knee.

00:10:44.000 You know what I mean?

00:10:44.000 Like, cats are sleeping with dogs.

00:10:46.000 Your mom has an artificial knee and she does deadlifts? 1.00

00:10:48.000 Who doesn't deadlift with an artificial knee?

00:10:49.000 Why not?

00:10:51.000 That's a gangster.

00:10:52.000 Right, and she's gluten-free, right? 0.77

00:10:53.000 And gluten-free.

00:10:54.000 That's right.

00:10:55.000 I could eat your grandmother. 1.00

00:10:57.000 No, you can't.

00:10:58.000 I want to definitely get to the gluten issue.

00:11:00.000 That's a very controversial issue.

00:11:02.000 No, it's not controversial.

00:11:03.000 I mean, amongst a lot of people.

00:11:05.000 Maybe not to you, but amongst a lot of people it is.

00:11:08.000 So, the issue is suddenly we can tie these fields together and because we have The way to share the information.

00:11:14.000 Maybe you've noticed we're in the center of a human epoch.

00:11:17.000 This is a renaissance.

00:11:18.000 For sure.

00:11:19.000 Look at the MMA movement.

00:11:21.000 People are like, hey, I should probably learn how to fight and rule.

00:11:24.000 The self-empowerment.

00:11:26.000 I'm not going to have a pension.

00:11:27.000 I'm going to have a 401k.

00:11:28.000 I'm going to manage it myself.

00:11:30.000 It turns out I'm responsible for my own health care.

00:11:33.000 The center of responsibility has definitely shifted back to us.

00:11:36.000 Nutrition information is sort of distilled down and shifted back to us.

00:11:38.000 You can start making better decisions about your life and realize you have to because everyone else is going to do it for you.

00:11:43.000 I think we're in a culture of people waking up and for the first time now People are engaged in real strength and conditioning systems.

00:11:51.000 They are front squatting.

00:11:52.000 They are working hard.

00:11:53.000 I mean, I think in Pavel, in one of his first books, there was a Brazilian fighter who did the 10-minute snatch test with a kettlebell and he almost killed him.

00:12:03.000 And it took him like 10 minutes or something, right?

00:12:04.000 And he waves about it.

00:12:06.000 I have like 14-year-old kids who can do that in four minutes.

00:12:08.000 Wow.

00:12:09.000 So the work capacity model is out.

00:12:11.000 So everyone now is realizing, hey, I need to work better.

00:12:13.000 I need to work harder.

00:12:14.000 I mean, everyone shows up super fit now, right?

00:12:17.000 They really do.

00:12:17.000 I mean, everyone's got pull-ups and they're working hard and doing Tabata.

00:12:21.000 We've done a really good job, but we're not still telling people what the best position is.

00:12:26.000 We're not kind of connecting the dots because we can get away with, write a lot of bad checks until we get injured.

00:12:31.000 Right.

00:12:31.000 And then you're...

00:12:32.000 The reason...

00:12:34.000 I think the reason we're having good success with the book and with our video stuff is that I'm going to see you either because you're broken or because you're losing.

00:12:42.000 And both of those things are the same conversation.

00:12:44.000 And one of the real problems is that This information has been mired in the injury prevention, you know, do this and you won't get injured, but you're like, I'm not injured now, I feel great and I'm the best in the world, so why should I give a care?

00:12:56.000 Now we can start to say, hey, by the way, this conversation is about where you're dumping torque, where you can't get into good guard position, where you're bleeding force on the wall, where you're, you know, and then we start having that conversation.

00:13:07.000 And it turns out that the shoulder is the shoulder.

00:13:09.000 So if you start to understand the principles of movement, you understand what we're trying to do in the gym, then you can start to translate that stuff instantaneously to whatever sport you're doing.

00:13:18.000 So it's more of like a physical intelligence sort of an idea?

00:13:22.000 That you're trying to impart physical intelligence, like moving correctly?

00:13:26.000 Well, it's moving correctly.

00:13:27.000 So think about position.

00:13:28.000 Position is a skill.

00:13:31.000 Can you do all the things?

00:13:32.000 Like if I ask you to keep your spine flat and reach over and grab a case of beer, can you do that yes or no?

00:13:39.000 Like I don't need a bunch of tests on your lumbar spine to look at instability.

00:13:42.000 Do you know how to brace?

00:13:43.000 Can you get into a good position and maintain that stability?

00:13:46.000 Or something simple like we used ankle range of motion before because people are getting blown up running poorly with these new shoes, right? 1.00

00:13:52.000 These motherfuckers. 1.00

00:13:54.000 Those new shoes are no good? 1.00

00:13:55.000 No, they're amazing, but you don't have flank range of motion, your feet are weak, you run like a duck, and you don't know how to run.

00:14:01.000 How rude, first of all.

00:14:03.000 I mean, the royal you.

00:14:05.000 I understand what you're saying.

00:14:07.000 What's happening is that we have...

00:14:08.000 Like another to confirm nor deny.

00:14:10.000 What's happening is we've got to basically say, you know, if position is a skill, do you possess the motor control?

00:14:17.000 Do you have the skill, the technique to be able to do this?

00:14:20.000 Yes or no?

00:14:21.000 And then also do you have the biomechanics?

00:14:22.000 And the problem is we've gotten pretty good at the motor control.

00:14:25.000 We're figuring that out. 0.90

00:14:26.000 But people's biomechanics are wretched.

00:14:33.000 It takes some maintenance. 0.99

00:14:34.000 You should, A, know that you probably take 10 minutes a day to work through your crap. 0.97

00:14:39.000 You need 10 minutes of preventive maintenance on the car every day. 0.97

00:14:42.000 You've got to put gas in.

00:14:43.000 Just the way your nutrition is sort of dialed during the course of the day.

00:14:46.000 You develop a practice of 10 or 15 minutes of some basic maintenance.

00:14:50.000 And then that allows you to deal with the things that are up front.

00:14:52.000 Like, hey, my neck's killing me.

00:14:53.000 My back's killing me.

00:14:54.000 I have these problems.

00:14:55.000 Or it's just hunting.

00:14:56.000 So we look at Kobe, tears his Achilles.

00:14:59.000 How much did that cost him?

00:15:00.000 What's that cost his team in revenue?

00:15:02.000 What about A-Rod or Lady Gaga, tears her hip. 1.00

00:15:06.000 Poor Lady Gaga. 1.00

00:15:07.000 She had to refund $30 million.

00:15:08.000 Those other guys are guys.

00:15:10.000 Those guys are guys.

00:15:11.000 You don't understand.

00:15:12.000 It feels like Lady Gaga could just roll out there and they'd still love him.

00:15:14.000 $30 million hip.

00:15:15.000 $30 million is how much she had to refund. 1.00

00:15:17.000 Damn, that bitch is powerful. 1.00

00:15:21.000 Thirty million dollars if you hurt your hip. 1.00

00:15:23.000 What's the word if you hurt your hip?

00:15:26.000 Not that much.

00:15:27.000 How much does your back pain cost?

00:15:28.000 Right.

00:15:29.000 I think the real question is...

00:15:31.000 What's causing these issues?

00:15:32.000 Well, it's a human right to know how to move.

00:15:34.000 There should not be a physical therapist.

00:15:36.000 And let's be clear, I have a clinical doctor in this thing.

00:15:40.000 I should not be standing between you and knowing how to move more effectively and you and knowing how to fix it.

00:15:44.000 This stuff is so simple.

00:15:46.000 It's a human right.

00:15:47.000 That's what we're trying to do.

00:15:48.000 Spread the love.

00:15:48.000 When you see some people that have, like, ridiculous natural intelligence with their bodies, and that's what I'm calling...

00:15:54.000 That's right. 0.91

00:15:56.000 Athleticism.

00:15:56.000 There's a natural intelligence.

00:15:57.000 And it's much like some people are just way better at doing whatever, singing. 0.99

00:16:00.000 Some people can just fucking sing. 0.98

00:16:02.000 And some people just know how to move their body. 0.97

00:16:04.000 But other people, man, there's some dudes, like, you just can't teach them certain things.

00:16:08.000 Like, I remember when I was teaching Taekwondo, there was always these kids that would just learn everything so quick.

00:16:14.000 And there was always some people that, for whatever reason, their body just didn't move right.

00:16:18.000 100% right.

00:16:19.000 Now, when you see a guy like that, how do you correct that?

00:16:22.000 Well, the real issue is, you know, at what point do we start to develop skills in kids, right?

00:16:29.000 Right.

00:16:30.000 What's that athletic language?

00:16:31.000 Okay.

00:16:32.000 It's not about recess.

00:16:33.000 You know, think about you're wired to move correctly as a human.

00:16:36.000 So my daughter, age 11 months, squats like Westside style, like she does, right?

00:16:42.000 Because it turns out all the conduits are there.

00:16:46.000 You still got to run the wires through the conduits.

00:16:48.000 And that's why we get kids who came out of fighting.

00:16:51.000 Some kind of martial arts early on.

00:16:52.000 Kids came out of gymnastics early on.

00:16:54.000 Some kind of movement system dance.

00:16:56.000 They all move better, right?

00:16:57.000 Right.

00:16:57.000 And that was because there were some basic primary shapes that we taught kids.

00:17:00.000 And then all of a sudden you have this language onto which you can sort of layer athleticism.

00:17:05.000 But suddenly there are some kids who figure it out early on.

00:17:08.000 And it shouldn't be in happenstance.

00:17:10.000 Like every kid should know how to jump and land.

00:17:11.000 So how about this?

00:17:12.000 ACL injury rates in kids under 12 up 400%.

00:17:16.000 Wow.

00:17:16.000 Don't you think we should have cured that?

00:17:18.000 Is that because of more competition?

00:17:20.000 Is it just because of poor movement?

00:17:21.000 I think we don't teach kids how to move.

00:17:23.000 I think we expect that this is a natural thing.

00:17:26.000 Kids sit.

00:17:27.000 People injure themselves though in athletics.

00:17:28.000 I mean, I've torn two ACLs and it wasn't because of bad movement.

00:17:33.000 Okay, fair enough.

00:17:34.000 Let's take all the orthopedic injuries on the planet.

00:17:37.000 Let's divide them into a couple categories.

00:17:39.000 The first category is pathology.

00:17:40.000 Something wrong with you, right?

00:17:42.000 You have kidney infection or Lyme disease, right?

00:17:44.000 There's something sketchy going on.

00:17:46.000 One of my wife's friends, mothers, had back pain, constant back pain. 1.00

00:17:51.000 They'd seen her, everyone was treating her for back pain.

00:17:52.000 Turns out she had spinal cancer, right?

00:17:54.000 She had metastasized cancer.

00:17:55.000 There's a pathology there that happens once in a while and that's why you're like, hey dude, You're my training partner.

00:18:00.000 Something's wrong with you.

00:18:01.000 Go get checked out.

00:18:02.000 This is our physicians.

00:18:03.000 We handle pathology beautifully.

00:18:04.000 The second is catastrophe.

00:18:06.000 Sometimes I work with every branch of the government, all the tier one assets.

00:18:10.000 They're going to be parachuting downwind at night and land on a stump and break their ankle.

00:18:13.000 You're going to get swept and have someone, some fat guy, roll into your ACL. That's going to happen.

00:18:18.000 Those are 2% category problems.

00:18:21.000 The 98% is totally preventable.

00:18:24.000 It's you working in bad positions until you spondy, until you tear your labrum.

00:18:29.000 That's it.

00:18:30.000 And it's also fatigue.

00:18:32.000 Fatigue causes your body to buckle under you occasionally, causes you to have poor form.

00:18:37.000 That's true.

00:18:38.000 So the issue is, can you maintain a position Under the duress of cardiorespiratory demand, right?

00:18:46.000 I heard you say a couple times, you're like, CrossFit, you know, like, give me a fighter.

00:18:50.000 Because the expression of being able to hold these shapes and fight and wrestle under huge metabolic demand and cardiorespiratory demand is what makes fighting really good.

00:18:59.000 And people have really done a good job of taking the conditioning off the table now.

00:19:02.000 These athletes are so conditioned, right?

00:19:05.000 But if you lose position because you're breathing hard, because you're under metabolic demand or load, right, or you're stressed, then what you see is you see incomplete training.

00:19:14.000 And the whole point of the training is to exceed your capacities so that you can maintain the robustness and fluency of your positions so that when it comes time to dance or do what you need to do, you can do those things and you don't end up giving position.

00:19:26.000 So you're saying that understanding human movement and understanding how to do anything correctly sort of will lead to an improvement in athleticism across the board?

00:19:36.000 100%.

00:19:36.000 One to one.

00:19:37.000 So if you walk like a duck, let's just say this.

00:19:39.000 Okay.

00:19:40.000 If we take a pole in this room.

00:19:42.000 How about Tim Sylvia?

00:19:42.000 Do you know who Tim Sylvia is?

00:19:44.000 No.

00:19:44.000 Tim Sylvia is a former UFC heavyweight champion, a great fighter, just a big giant dude, but he always had like a pigeon-toed thing going on.

00:19:52.000 Okay, so...

00:19:52.000 I think that was, is that a genetic thing, or is it just...

00:19:55.000 Well, genetic is in his mom walk like that, and his dad walk like that, and he pattern like that.

00:19:59.000 So, in the NFL, for example, they won't draft you.

00:20:03.000 Dude, you wear flip-flops, there's a culture of wearing flip-flops.

00:20:05.000 What happens to your ankle if I take away your capacity to flex your ankle?

00:20:10.000 You're not going to be able to walk through the ankle.

00:20:12.000 So what do you do?

00:20:13.000 You walk around the ankle.

00:20:14.000 So this is the mechanism for bunion.

00:20:16.000 If that navicular bone starts to collapse and you see that foot collapse down, then that's a tell.

00:20:21.000 It's called a pathognomonic tell for ACL injury.

00:20:24.000 In fact, the NFL scouts look for that fallen navicular drop, the navicular drop, and they Downgrade you because they think you're more likely to tear your ACL. What is it called again?

00:20:33.000 Navicular drop.

00:20:34.000 Navicular drop.

00:20:34.000 The navicular bone is flat on the ground.

00:20:36.000 Well, it totally seems like you'd be more likely to tear your ACL. It looks like your knees are kind of going in towards each other all the time.

00:20:42.000 No kid, every child is born with flat feet, but no kid actually has flat feet.

00:20:46.000 And what ends up happening is it takes a couple years, arches develop, we see it around two.

00:20:50.000 But it turns out that your ankle works best When it's straight up and down, walking straight.

00:20:55.000 So the problem is that when you walk with the foot out, you can still create a ton of torque and the stability.

00:21:00.000 You can kick people really hard.

00:21:01.000 You can run really fast.

00:21:02.000 But as soon as that leg comes behind you, then what's happened is that your hip is in an unstable position.

00:21:07.000 You've added a little twist into your knee.

00:21:09.000 Your ankle has collapsed.

00:21:11.000 And you're starting to dump torque so that that back foot, if you're pushing off that back foot to kick someone or hit someone, you've lost a little force there.

00:21:18.000 It's a little force bleed, a little force dump.

00:21:21.000 So imagine that you walk around like That position with your feet turned out and you take 10,000 steps a day because you're an average person.

00:21:28.000 10,000 steps.

00:21:29.000 So just do the math on that.

00:21:30.000 70,000 steps a week.

00:21:31.000 Quarter million steps a month.

00:21:33.000 Three million steps.

00:21:34.000 And suddenly you've practiced this foot turned out position.

00:21:37.000 The jumping and landing with your feet turned out is not okay.

00:21:40.000 That's the mechanism for so many of the ACL injuries, all the foot injuries.

00:21:43.000 And is it preventable?

00:21:44.000 Yeah.

00:21:44.000 Your first thing is your coach is like, hey, stand with your feet straight.

00:21:47.000 If we test you right now, How'd you jump up from the bottom position, up onto your feet?

00:21:53.000 If your feet were out, I can sweep you so easily.

00:21:55.000 If your feet are straight, you have options.

00:21:57.000 You can cut left, you can cut right, you can jump.

00:22:00.000 But if you turn your feet out, you lose this position.

00:22:04.000 I can also look at your hip function.

00:22:06.000 If I turn your feet out and your knees come in, that's what happens.

00:22:10.000 You shut your hip musculature off.

00:22:11.000 It's not that you have a weak hip, but your hip is functionally muted.

00:22:14.000 You've basically put yourself into a mechanically bad position.

00:22:16.000 I lose hip function, which means I lose power.

00:22:18.000 So it's not a genetic predisposition.

00:22:20.000 It's a training early on that was incorrect.

00:22:22.000 Practice, practice, practice.

00:22:23.000 So I was at Disneyland with my friend.

00:22:24.000 And my friend's family is like, this girl's walking like a duck. 0.91

00:22:27.000 I mean, we've talked about it.

00:22:29.000 You know, he's like, oh my god, what do we do?

00:22:31.000 You know, do we see an orthopedic surgeon? 1.00

00:22:32.000 She's looking for dick. 1.00

00:22:33.000 That's what that is. 1.00

00:22:34.000 Just cutting a big wide path.

00:22:37.000 She doesn't want to close it off.

00:22:38.000 Conservative girls will close it off. 1.00

00:22:39.000 They'll deal with the pigeon style. 0.99

00:22:41.000 But you're not thinking that through because women are generating more torque in that position. 1.00

00:22:45.000 They're just letting you know what's up.

00:22:46.000 Do you want to be loose or do you want to create torque?

00:22:48.000 I don't think they're thinking like that, man.

00:22:49.000 You don't have to think about it.

00:22:51.000 That's the problem.

00:22:52.000 It needs to think about that.

00:22:53.000 This kid is like...

00:22:54.000 So my friend is like, hey, what do we do?

00:22:57.000 I'm like, well, have you asked your daughter not to walk like a duck?

00:22:58.000 Because it turns out you need training and coaching.

00:23:00.000 And this is why you have training partners.

00:23:02.000 And he's like, hey, Eva, can you make your feet straight?

00:23:04.000 She's like, sure, Dad.

00:23:05.000 And the problem is fixed from then on.

00:23:07.000 Wow.

00:23:07.000 So a guy like Tim Sylvia, who's in his 30s, do you think you could fix that?

00:23:11.000 Like if you got with Tim, is it too late?

00:23:14.000 Sure.

00:23:14.000 No, well, here's the deal.

00:23:15.000 My wife has this great saying.

00:23:16.000 She's like, make a better decision.

00:23:18.000 She looks at me and she's like, that's a bad decision.

00:23:20.000 I have a hard time believing that the way that guy's frame is.

00:23:24.000 Tim was a great fighter in spite of his genetics.

00:23:28.000 So what you're saying is how do I optimize my genetics?

00:23:30.000 How do I take the best athletes in the world and make them better?

00:23:33.000 And this is the revolution we're in right now.

00:23:35.000 It's not just about injury prevention.

00:23:37.000 I know that if I put you into a better position where you can squat more, jump higher, cut harder, punch harder, kick harder, Chances are that sort of aggregates into better performance, right?

00:23:47.000 Well, imagine if it's someone jumping down from a wall with a 100-pound pack in Afghanistan. 0.89

00:23:51.000 Do you think that that's a good position or a bad position?

00:23:54.000 Or if I have to sprawl or get up and change directions for my officers, this is the same deal.

00:23:58.000 The problem is we don't sort of connect the dots.

00:24:01.000 Look, Daniel Coyle wrote this great book called The Talent Code.

00:24:04.000 Have you guys read that?

00:24:05.000 Well, it turns out skill is a complex biological phenomenon.

00:24:09.000 That's it.

00:24:10.000 So, what ends up happening is that when you practice a skill, and we know it takes 10,000 hours, a million reps, right?

00:24:17.000 A child has to do something six to 10,000 times before it becomes functional, right?

00:24:21.000 The key to adult learning is repetition.

00:24:23.000 You've heard all of this before.

00:24:24.000 Well, it turns out that when Neurons that fire together wire together.

00:24:28.000 What happens is that Schwann cell, that oligodendrocyte, comes in and myelinates that pathway.

00:24:34.000 So practice doesn't make perfect.

00:24:36.000 Practice makes permanent.

00:24:37.000 So who you are right now is who you're going to be under stress, who you are right now.

00:24:41.000 So why wouldn't you start cultivating a better position all the time?

00:24:44.000 Because it's free money, right?

00:24:45.000 And it starts to show up.

00:24:47.000 The greatest thing about competition, especially fighting, is that we're going to find out who you are.

00:24:51.000 We're going to find out what your conditioning level is.

00:24:52.000 We're going to find out what your skill is.

00:24:54.000 We're going to find out where you go mentally when it gets tough, right?

00:24:56.000 That's the point of why we train and why we fight because it helps us self-actualize and see the problems.

00:25:02.000 When we start turning this all into performance, and it's got to be measurable.

00:25:06.000 We can measure that.

00:25:06.000 I was having a call today on the way in with one of my Tour de France cyclists.

00:25:11.000 Unbelievable, phenomenal athlete, right?

00:25:13.000 His foot was a little stiff in the ankle and his knee used to wobble.

00:25:17.000 And you think, oh, that's not good.

00:25:19.000 Would you imagine if I was walking and my knees wobbled every single time, or I kicked you every single time and your knee would wobble?

00:25:23.000 Right.

00:25:24.000 Well, it turned out his ankle was stuck.

00:25:26.000 And I showed him how to free up his ankle, and guess what?

00:25:28.000 His wattage went up and he won the Tour de Suisse.

00:25:30.000 So it's not an accident.

00:25:31.000 His ankle was stuck?

00:25:32.000 Stiff.

00:25:33.000 Oh, just stiff?

00:25:34.000 Just needed to be worked out?

00:25:35.000 Imagine if you, um...

00:25:37.000 It's not just stretching, right?

00:25:39.000 Think about your calves, for example.

00:25:40.000 They take tons of abuse.

00:25:43.000 Running, it can be upwards of five, six times impulse body weight.

00:25:46.000 Think about kicking.

00:25:47.000 If your Achilles is straight up and down and is designed to pull straight up and down, what happens when that ankle collapses a little bit?

00:25:52.000 Now your Achilles is off axis, right?

00:25:54.000 Pulls laterally.

00:25:55.000 This is the mechanism for the Achilles rupture, is that I take this very powerful tissue, load it sideways.

00:26:01.000 Well, not only am I likely to injure myself, but that tissue doesn't work very well, it gets stiff.

00:26:06.000 So if I just pull on it, you know, let me just stretch.

00:26:09.000 Oh, that didn't change anything.

00:26:11.000 I'm just pulling on the kind of contractile features.

00:26:13.000 We're not dealing with the stiffness of the sliding surfaces, the fascia, the muscle stiff, the joint capsule.

00:26:19.000 You just have to start thinking in a systems approach.

00:26:21.000 And the thing is, it's stinking easy.

00:26:23.000 We use jump stretch bands and lacrosse balls.

00:26:26.000 This information has just been kind of kept in this dark closet.

00:26:30.000 You know, oh, I have knee pain.

00:26:31.000 I can rear naked choke 17 people and fight and do all these things, but I don't know what to do with my knee pain. 0.98

00:26:37.000 That's ridiculous. 1.00

00:26:37.000 You're an incomplete athlete, incomplete human. 1.00

00:26:40.000 So, what do you do to people that are fucked up like that? 0.99

00:26:42.000 Like, when a guy comes to you and he's got knee pain, you just correct the way he moves? 0.97

00:26:46.000 Well, that's the first thing.

00:26:47.000 And the reason we all have to go after movement first is that the movement often, if we correct your movement patterning, and then the gym is not just about getting stronger or fitter.

00:26:55.000 It's about perfect practice, like the formal language of movement.

00:26:59.000 Like, the gym is like the best expression of modern human ballet, right?

00:27:04.000 It's the formal.

00:27:05.000 But we are freestyle dance battlers.

00:27:07.000 That's what we do.

00:27:09.000 I don't like where this is going.

00:27:13.000 I'm a dancer, you can't keep me down.

00:27:17.000 The issue is that, one is how do I make the invisible visible?

00:27:20.000 How do I take a guy like that?

00:27:21.000 I can see it.

00:27:22.000 I'm really good.

00:27:23.000 You can see it.

00:27:24.000 And pretty soon what's going to happen is, honestly, if you pick up this book, and I'm not trying to pitch this thing, but you can see it.

00:27:30.000 You start to get the vision, and it's so bad.

00:27:32.000 You can see how people are moving.

00:27:33.000 You go to the Olympics, and you just watch the Olympics, and you're like, that guy could go faster.

00:27:37.000 Why is his knee wobbling?

00:27:39.000 Why is that shoulder incomplete?

00:27:41.000 So the first thing we do is we prioritize the movement.

00:27:43.000 Can you correct the formal language of that?

00:27:46.000 Because especially in a pattern that I've done a billion times, like let's take my Olympic rowers, right?

00:27:51.000 These Olympic rowers have pulled 30 or 40 strokes a minute for 200 kilometers a week for as long as they've been rowing.

00:27:58.000 It's insane.

00:27:58.000 The patterns.

00:27:59.000 So how am I going to break that pattern?

00:28:01.000 Am I going to mess with them?

00:28:02.000 No, that's your coach's job.

00:28:04.000 Your coach teaches you technique.

00:28:05.000 My job as a strength and conditioning coach or as the training partner is to give you a new pattern in this very formal language called front squatting, swinging kettlebells, doing the basic language, finding the problems, Addressing the problems, practicing the movement,

00:28:20.000 and guess what?

00:28:21.000 Every single time our athletes can put it back into the field more effectively.

00:28:24.000 So what you're saying essentially for the layman is when you're doing something like rowing, it's a very specific movement, so you essentially provide movement in the opposite direction or like if you're pulling, pushing...

00:28:37.000 So here's what you're doing.

00:28:39.000 We've basically confused people because there's all of these movements, right?

00:28:44.000 But mainly, the spine has a few shapes.

00:28:46.000 Needs to be able to pick something up with my spine braced, right?

00:28:50.000 Which is straight, straight up and down.

00:28:51.000 Straight up and down, braced correctly.

00:28:53.000 Okay.

00:28:53.000 You probably need to be able to do a somersault, don't you think?

00:28:55.000 A forward roll?

00:28:56.000 Yeah, forward roll is probably pretty standard.

00:28:58.000 That's a globally flexed position.

00:29:01.000 Can you do that, yes or no?

00:29:02.000 Right.

00:29:02.000 And if we had you do that, we would see that you had a little dead spot in your thoracic spine where it's stiff, right?

00:29:07.000 We're not getting good rolling.

00:29:09.000 If I was gonna, you know, swim or block a net, you know, a ball at the net as a volleyball player, we'd see the same thing.

00:29:15.000 You need to be in that globally flexed and globally extended positions.

00:29:18.000 Do you have fluid fluency?

00:29:20.000 Like Ido Portal, great thinker about this stuff.

00:29:22.000 He's like, what do you mean you can't roll backwards and roll off your back?

00:29:25.000 Like, that's how you fall a lot, backwards.

00:29:27.000 So why haven't we taught people this basic tumbling skills?

00:29:30.000 Oh, that's what gymnastics is. 1.00

00:29:32.000 So your spine only does a couple of very serious things.

00:29:35.000 You know, and we can make some nuance changes, but that's the basic language.

00:29:39.000 The shoulders have a couple basic laws, that when your shoulders are in front of your body, right, from your hands up to your head, they have a stable position, and that position is external rotation.

00:29:51.000 It's trying to break the bar.

00:29:52.000 You know all these cues.

00:29:53.000 Screw your feet into the ground is a cue to create torque and stability at the hip.

00:29:58.000 Well, it turns out, if you understand the movement principles, Then when you're in these shapes, you're climbing, you're in a bad shape, you can always create a stable position or a position where you're going to generate the most force.

00:30:08.000 Practicing that in the gym and also making it easy to understand because when you're fighting, it's hard to see where you're giving away torque and power.

00:30:16.000 It's hard to see how your limited hip function, right?

00:30:19.000 You're missing hip flexion, like bringing your knee to your chest.

00:30:22.000 You can't do it.

00:30:23.000 How do we know?

00:30:23.000 Well, that's the mechanism for hip impingement and torn labrum and all the problems we see.

00:30:28.000 But if I ask you to squat, can you get into the bottom position of a pistol, for example?

00:30:32.000 That basic shape.

00:30:34.000 It's not an accident that the sazen, the kneeling position, a lot of people can't kneel.

00:30:39.000 That's a full range of motion of your ankle.

00:30:41.000 These are the basic shapes.

00:30:44.000 The formal languages of movement, fighting, gymnastics, all of these things, people have worked this out.

00:30:50.000 Yoga.

00:30:50.000 And so you don't need to do yoga if you lift heavy weights and you understand what you're doing.

00:30:54.000 If you're putting your arms over your head and snatching, you probably are doing muscle snatch or swinging a kettlebell.

00:30:58.000 Chances are you understand yoga without understanding yoga.

00:31:01.000 You don't need to do yoga.

00:31:02.000 I think people do yoga for other stuff, too, right?

00:31:05.000 Well, this is also...

00:31:06.000 We've got to get into this.

00:31:07.000 They do it for their head. 0.99

00:31:08.000 Girls' butts. 1.00

00:31:09.000 Girls' butts. 1.00

00:31:10.000 But dudes do it for your head. 1.00

00:31:11.000 Do you think girls do it for girls' butts? 1.00

00:31:13.000 Yes, they do. 0.98

00:31:14.000 That's awkward. 0.96

00:31:14.000 They want to build their butt up. 0.96

00:31:16.000 That's what you say.

00:31:16.000 It's weird how it never works, though, isn't it?

00:31:18.000 Strange.

00:31:18.000 It never works.

00:31:19.000 We have to be a skinny fat girl. 1.00

00:31:22.000 A skinny fat girl who do yoga? 1.00

00:31:23.000 Let me tell you a story.

00:31:24.000 Oh, please do.

00:31:26.000 I was in Australia with my family.

00:31:28.000 We're staying at the Byron Bay.

00:31:29.000 I don't know if you've been there.

00:31:30.000 It's beautiful, and there's a spa, and my wife's like, hey, there's a yoga class. 1.00

00:31:33.000 You should take that, you fat guy. 0.85

00:31:35.000 It'll be good for you, and it'll be entertaining for them. 0.98

00:31:37.000 So I show up. 0.99

00:31:38.000 There's like 20 girls already in their yoga costumes, and the woman sees me, and she looks at me just like I look at you, and you're like, fuck, this girl, this guy is huge. 0.99

00:31:46.000 He's going to be inflexible. 0.99

00:31:47.000 He's going to take up all my resources.

00:31:48.000 But I understand.

00:31:50.000 What the stable shoulder position is in any sport, in any platform, because it's the same shoulder.

00:31:54.000 We understand the physiology.

00:31:56.000 Can you get into that shape, yes or no?

00:31:57.000 Can you make your spine stable, yes or no?

00:31:59.000 Right?

00:31:59.000 Punching is the same thing as being a downward dog, basically.

00:32:03.000 Punching is?

00:32:04.000 Well, I mean, do you understand what the stable shoulder position is before you unload?

00:32:09.000 It's the same thing, right?

00:32:10.000 Are you organized?

00:32:12.000 Are you in a bad position when you punch?

00:32:13.000 In some punches, especially uppercuts and hooks, you're in a very weird position.

00:32:18.000 Weird position, but can you express the full physiology?

00:32:21.000 So there is a good position.

00:32:24.000 So the issue is, if you're limited range of motion, let's take Forrest, right?

00:32:28.000 You know he's got a bad wing, right?

00:32:30.000 He's missing some range of motion on that shoulder, right?

00:32:33.000 Some things he's been working on for a long time, right?

00:32:35.000 He got dumped in a bad shape.

00:32:37.000 The question is, you know, that limits his movement language down to very few.

00:32:42.000 He has a few ranges he's very effective in and some ranges where he's not very effective in.

00:32:45.000 Sorry, Forrest, I'm giving away the keys to the castle here.

00:32:48.000 But it had to be Forrest Griffin in a bar fight.

00:32:50.000 But the real issue is that if you have...

00:32:53.000 One of the basic archetypes for the human being is you should be able to put your arms straight up over your head.

00:32:58.000 Rib cage down, armpit forward.

00:33:01.000 As if you're holding a dumbbell over your head.

00:33:03.000 Kettlebell gives you a little bit more breathing room.

00:33:05.000 But can you hold two 55-pound kettlebells over your head, yes or no?

00:33:08.000 That's full range of motion, right?

00:33:10.000 But you need to be able to be stable here and stable here, still overhead, stable here, stable here, stable here.

00:33:14.000 What happens is if I have full range of motion and I train in these formal ways of creating torque off these objects, right, I'm swinging kettlebells, I'm breaking the bar, I'm bench pressing, I'm pressing, I'm doing push-ups, all the things we do, then that gives me movement possibilities where I can still be in a tenuous position and still generate force.

00:33:32.000 So I see what you're saying.

00:33:33.000 So being able to press overhead is equally important to be able to press sideways.

00:33:39.000 That's right, because it helps me know what the stable shoulder position is, and that gives me options.

00:33:44.000 Is it really possible to generate the exact same amount of strength through the entire range of like kettlebells, extended 90 degrees?

00:33:50.000 No, but we can still know what the stable position for the shoulder is.

00:33:53.000 So you strengthen it as much as you can.

00:33:56.000 But there's always going to be gravity and leverage.

00:33:58.000 Right.

00:33:58.000 So, you know, the front rack, for example.

00:34:00.000 And listen, like the good coaches, like Dan John, great coach, says something like, hey, you should be able to pick something up off the ground.

00:34:06.000 You should be able to carry it around and put it over your head.

00:34:07.000 Like, that's pretty elemental.

00:34:09.000 Right.

00:34:09.000 Well, picking up off the ground, deadlift, right, that's a basic archetype.

00:34:13.000 Reaching into the crib, grabbing my baby, picking up the keg, you know.

00:34:17.000 Someone is jumping on you in guard, right?

00:34:19.000 They wrap their legs around you when you're in standing position. 0.78

00:34:21.000 That's a deadlift, yes or no.

00:34:23.000 So, can you do that?

00:34:25.000 Picking something up is kind of this hang position.

00:34:28.000 This is one of the archetypes of the shoulder, which is, what, Kimura?

00:34:32.000 I'm not just a crappy fighter, but I get it.

00:34:34.000 So do I have full range of motion in my shoulder?

00:34:36.000 And if I don't, in this position, I'll compensate because I'm a human being.

00:34:39.000 And now my shoulder is forward, and now I'm in a bad position.

00:34:43.000 So what ends up happening is that I start fighting and organizing, and Jerry DeForest, like Chuck Liddell had that, you know, John Hackleman, he called me up one time, he's like, oh, my shoulder's killing me.

00:34:52.000 I'm like, well, he can't punch.

00:34:53.000 With this totally internally rotated crappy position forever and not expect your shoulder to ache, right?

00:34:58.000 And how did he fix it?

00:34:59.000 Well, he started restoring his range of motion, cleaning up the movement mechanics in this other formal thing called training, and then that allowed him to express better mechanics.

00:35:09.000 When you start to see the breakdowns, and it's part of it, like, how do you make the stimulus for adaptation to become a better human being, to be a more effective athlete, to train...

00:35:21.000 We put our kids under load.

00:35:22.000 Like, my daughter deadlifts.

00:35:24.000 She deadlifts 20 pounds.

00:35:25.000 How old is she? 0.98

00:35:26.000 Eight. 0.99

00:35:27.000 She's a monster. 1.00

00:35:29.000 My second daughter... 1.00

00:35:30.000 Deadlifting.

00:35:32.000 We actually have a 200-pound stone.

00:35:34.000 That's awesome.

00:35:34.000 In the front yard, and the boys have to be able to pick that stone up and date my kids.

00:35:38.000 It's the first step.

00:35:39.000 Wow.

00:35:40.000 That's the first test.

00:35:41.000 Then there's an intellectual writing test.

00:35:42.000 To take her on a date, they have to pick up a 200-pound rock?

00:35:45.000 Seems fair to me.

00:35:47.000 Dude.

00:35:47.000 Can I try?

00:35:48.000 That seems like she's going to have issues. 0.72

00:35:50.000 You can try.

00:35:51.000 Men have tried and failed and tried and died.

00:35:54.000 I'll just say that.

00:35:55.000 That's hilarious.

00:35:56.000 A 200-pound rock.

00:35:57.000 Man, I don't know if I could pick up a 200-pound rock.

00:35:59.000 Of course I could. 0.99

00:35:59.000 That shit has got to be really hard to do. 0.99

00:36:01.000 No. 0.99

00:36:01.000 But is it shaped like? 0.99

00:36:03.000 I think that's important.

00:36:04.000 Smooth, round, so...

00:36:05.000 Wait, how old is she? 0.89

00:36:06.000 She's eight.

00:36:07.000 Yeah, she should weigh a lot.

00:36:08.000 Why would you want to let your eight-year-old date somebody? 0.99

00:36:11.000 Who the fuck is going to be able to pick? 0.99

00:36:12.000 Yeah, that's true. 0.99

00:36:13.000 That's messed up.

00:36:14.000 That's true.

00:36:14.000 Good point.

00:36:15.000 That's a very good point.

00:36:17.000 That's got a good point.

00:36:18.000 We have to use a little external load to teach people shapes.

00:36:23.000 That's why you can do boot camp and never learn how to move and still move like crap and still get injured.

00:36:27.000 Look, I mean, the Army has a million non-combat related orthopedic injuries every year.

00:36:32.000 This is my shout out to all my kids in the military who listen to this podcast because there are a ton of them who listen to you.

00:36:38.000 85% of Marine Force Recon retire in full disability.

00:36:42.000 Why?

00:36:42.000 Because they have, it's not just the IEDs, it's because we're putting kids in bad positions.

00:36:47.000 We don't train them for these basic shapes, basic iterations of how to protect their body, and we don't do the maintenance.

00:36:52.000 You can't be a Marine, carry a 100-pound pack in a bad position, be dehydrated.

00:36:56.000 Your body is going to get stiff.

00:36:57.000 So what do you do about that?

00:36:58.000 Well, we know how to fix it.

00:36:59.000 We know how to re-optimize, reclaim the positions.

00:37:03.000 So you're saying that guys that don't even get wounded in combat wind up being debilitated just because of injuries?

00:37:08.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:37:08.000 Just because they move poorly at load.

00:37:11.000 Or they just move fast.

00:37:14.000 Who taught you to run?

00:37:15.000 Me?

00:37:16.000 Yeah.

00:37:16.000 I don't remember.

00:37:17.000 It was probably a long time ago.

00:37:18.000 Right.

00:37:19.000 That's the problem.

00:37:20.000 You just figured it out.

00:37:20.000 And we were like, good, you can run.

00:37:22.000 And you're either fast or you're slow.

00:37:23.000 Do you believe in running on the toes or do you think you should run heel first?

00:37:27.000 Because I know there's a debate about that.

00:37:31.000 I'm so happy you're happy.

00:37:33.000 If you take your shoes off and run around here naked, which happens in this show...

00:37:37.000 Every now and then, you gotta run around naked.

00:37:40.000 No one will heel strike. 0.97

00:37:42.000 It's true.

00:37:43.000 Why is that?

00:37:43.000 Because it hurts.

00:37:44.000 Oh, weird.

00:37:46.000 So you mess up the laws of biomechanics and you get this feedback that you're in a bad position.

00:37:49.000 Right.

00:37:50.000 So you stop heel striking.

00:37:51.000 So every single person...

00:37:52.000 Now, let's just take the animal of the human as like an evolutionary machine.

00:37:57.000 You've been evolving for two and a half million years.

00:37:59.000 Over the last 10,000 years, you really haven't changed.

00:38:01.000 It's the same.

00:38:02.000 You're a little fatter.

00:38:03.000 My femur's a little longer.

00:38:03.000 It's the same body 10,000 years ago.

00:38:06.000 Do you think, and keeping in mind that you're designed for adaptation, right?

00:38:10.000 You can suck up bad diets for decades and then it blows up in your face, right?

00:38:14.000 I know world champions who eat little chocolate donuts and smoke and they're still world champions.

00:38:18.000 Especially Thai guys, right? 1.00

00:38:20.000 Especially these freaky Thai guys. 1.00

00:38:22.000 Let's be honest. 1.00

00:38:22.000 Dude, they gotta get hammered, smoke cigarettes, and kick your ass. 1.00

00:38:25.000 And they can, because they're... 1.00

00:38:27.000 Look at their little bodies.

00:38:28.000 Like little knives and bamboo sticks, right?

00:38:31.000 I lived in Thailand for a month as a kid and was terrified of every little skinny Thai guy. 1.00

00:38:35.000 It's a very interesting style of fighting they developed.

00:38:38.000 If you look at the actual martial arts in an isolated form, Muay Thai is one of the best ever.

00:38:46.000 It's like...

00:38:48.000 I mean, their grappling is not as good as a grappler, but the real Muay Thai guys are awesome in neck manipulation as well.

00:38:55.000 What a lot of people don't realize is there's a lot of wrestling involved in that.

00:38:59.000 So look at that.

00:39:00.000 I go after your nervous system, right?

00:39:02.000 I change your head back, and guess what?

00:39:04.000 I own the head, I own the body, right?

00:39:05.000 The bull goes where the head goes.

00:39:07.000 That's not an accident.

00:39:08.000 No.

00:39:09.000 Anderson Silva's the master at that.

00:39:10.000 That's right. 0.99

00:39:11.000 He pins that shit down, and people don't even realize he ragdolls really strong guys with that. 1.00

00:39:17.000 I wrestled in high school as a terrible wrestler, and I had a coach who wrestled at Iowa, and he would get my head against his head, and then I was like, okay, take my lunch money, get my girlfriend. 1.00

00:39:26.000 I was over.

00:39:28.000 And a guy like Silva figures that out early on as part of his fighting strategy.

00:39:32.000 Maybe he's conscious of it.

00:39:33.000 Maybe he's not.

00:39:34.000 Maybe he has a Zen master who's like control the head, control the world, you know?

00:39:37.000 Well, he's awesome at everything, but he's also awesome at that.

00:39:40.000 He is awesome at everything.

00:39:41.000 And a lot of that is he's that genetic guy who figured it out early as a kid.

00:39:46.000 What we need to do then is be able to go back and say, what are the conditions that made him?

00:39:50.000 How do we teach kids not to work harder, right?

00:39:53.000 But how to teach kids the skills of being a human.

00:39:56.000 If you want to mandate and get rid of diabetes and obesity, mandate an hour of walking in schools a day.

00:40:01.000 But P.E. isn't about dodgeball, it should be, but it really should be about teaching the skills of jumping and landing and lifting things up.

00:40:09.000 Physical education, what it used to be called.

00:40:12.000 Here's the language.

00:40:13.000 Here are the skills.

00:40:14.000 You have to read and write to be able to get out of second grade.

00:40:16.000 You should also be able to demonstrate that you can keep your back flat when you pick up your backpack.

00:40:19.000 It really is funny that it's the one thing you're allowed to fail.

00:40:23.000 That's cool.

00:40:23.000 You're totally allowed to fail it.

00:40:24.000 You know what a noun and verb is?

00:40:26.000 You don't have to put them together.

00:40:27.000 It's cool.

00:40:27.000 You don't have to read.

00:40:28.000 It is kind of amazing that no one really cares if you ever get good at any sport.

00:40:32.000 You can get right through school without any proper use of your body at all.

00:40:37.000 That's funny.

00:40:38.000 That crazy PE teacher, a guy who made you climb the rope.

00:40:40.000 You just have to show up. 0.78

00:40:42.000 You have to show up.

00:40:42.000 And you just dress, right?

00:40:43.000 And you pass.

00:40:44.000 So, the humans are designed for adaptation.

00:40:48.000 You're designed for survival.

00:40:49.000 You can take the scratch and keep going, right?

00:40:52.000 And you know this, because if you've ever been in a fight, yes.

00:40:54.000 Did you feel anything in the fight right away?

00:40:57.000 No, it's the dirty secret about fighting.

00:40:59.000 You feel things afterwards, right?

00:41:01.000 You know?

00:41:02.000 I mean, why would Forrest Griffin keep fighting if people are using his face as a punching bag, right?

00:41:05.000 This is my question to him all the time.

00:41:06.000 He's like, well, I don't feel it right at the time.

00:41:07.000 Well, he's an animal, too.

00:41:08.000 But how about Jon Jones?

00:41:10.000 That's a perfect example.

00:41:11.000 After his last fight, his toe had been completely torn and, like, rotated sideways.

00:41:15.000 And he didn't even realize it.

00:41:17.000 Until he was talking and he looked down and saw it.

00:41:20.000 Right, and then he blacked out.

00:41:21.000 Then he sat down and, you know, he kept the interview going.

00:41:24.000 It was amazing.

00:41:25.000 So, here's the deal.

00:41:28.000 The pain pathway in the brain is the same pathway as a movement pathway.

00:41:32.000 So when you're moving, you do not get the pain signal.

00:41:34.000 You just don't hear it.

00:41:35.000 Because you're in constant motion.

00:41:36.000 Because you're in motion.

00:41:37.000 And your brain's not hearing the pain signal.

00:41:40.000 So by the time pain is punctured into your consciousness during movement, we have a serious problem.

00:41:45.000 The brain is like, whoa, bro.

00:41:46.000 And this is why everyone who knows who's ever exercised, you lay down at night and then you start to relax and downregulate and chill.

00:41:52.000 And all of a sudden, your knee starts throbbing.

00:41:54.000 You're like, what's wrong with this bed?

00:41:55.000 Did I twist my knee when I was brushing my teeth?

00:41:57.000 What's happened is you're not moving.

00:41:59.000 If you've been waking up in the middle of the night because your back is killing you, your neck is killing you, what's happened is you've stopped moving, you've stopped flooding the brain with that movement signaling, and all of a sudden you're just getting the pain signal.

00:42:09.000 You're getting the raw, unattenuated signal in the back of the system.

00:42:12.000 So, that's one of the problems. 0.91

00:42:13.000 The second problem is that You maniacs have spent your lives practicing being in pain.

00:42:19.000 So maybe really the best athletes can just suffer worse.

00:42:22.000 We know, like those athletes who can suffer, like they just, they can work harder than everyone else, they can generate more water than everyone else, they can just They get through fights with broken hands.

00:42:30.000 Well, and then that's the third piece, that once the adrenaline is going, you are not going to feel it.

00:42:35.000 So we can't use that pain as a signal that you're in a bad position because you'll always override that every single time.

00:42:42.000 I mean, who's the Gracie grandfather who's like, I just watched him tear my arm apart.

00:42:46.000 And I was like, well, big deal.

00:42:47.000 You couldn't feel it.

00:42:48.000 I'm sure you watched it. 1.00

00:42:50.000 But you feel a lot of shit, man. 1.00

00:42:51.000 Like left hooks to the liver, you always feel those. 1.00

00:42:54.000 Those fucking hurt, man. 1.00

00:42:55.000 They shut you down. 1.00

00:42:56.000 So it's so bad pain, right, that you can take a shot to the face. 0.80

00:43:00.000 But it's interesting that people go for the liver shot.

00:43:02.000 Why?

00:43:03.000 Because it punctures through that little wall, right?

00:43:06.000 And do people feel pain in the first round, or do they start feeling pain in the sixth or seventh round, or the fifth round, or when they're starting to really break down, starting to get fatigued.

00:43:13.000 There's time for that stuff to set in.

00:43:15.000 Right.

00:43:16.000 Leg kicks as well.

00:43:17.000 That's another thing. 0.99

00:43:18.000 You fucking feel those, man. 0.99

00:43:19.000 You feel those. 1.00

00:43:20.000 Truth.

00:43:21.000 Truth.

00:43:21.000 A little shin to the...

00:43:23.000 Wham!

00:43:24.000 You feel those, dude.

00:43:25.000 Those you feel.

00:43:26.000 It doesn't matter if you're moving or not.

00:43:28.000 You know, Glenn is the...

00:43:29.000 Glenn Cardoza's here.

00:43:30.000 He's the co-writer.

00:43:31.000 He's the guy who helped me...

00:43:31.000 Powerful Glenn.

00:43:32.000 Glenn.

00:43:33.000 He's the guy who helped me corral the brain and took all these photos.

00:43:37.000 And Glenn has this thing where he walks around the house with his pants pulled up really high.

00:43:41.000 And it's awkward at first.

00:43:42.000 Until you understand that he feels like he gets stressed out.

00:43:45.000 If he can't just kick you in the head spontaneously, he feels like the genes are limiting him, he gets a little stressed out.

00:43:51.000 See?

00:43:52.000 He's actually wearing stretchy jeans.

00:43:53.000 I used to wear those Chuck Norris jeans that had the gusset built into the crotch. 0.98

00:43:57.000 I wore those bitches. 1.00

00:43:59.000 You can move, right? 1.00

00:44:01.000 Action jeans.

00:44:01.000 Have you ever blown out a pair of pants moving?

00:44:03.000 Squatting down?

00:44:04.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:44:04.000 On stage I've done it before, a couple times.

00:44:07.000 How awkward is that?

00:44:08.000 Pretty awkward.

00:44:09.000 These are designer jeans.

00:44:10.000 They're so designer that I can't move functionally.

00:44:13.000 I can't move correctly.

00:44:14.000 It's like wearing an exoskeleton.

00:44:16.000 So you start moving poorly.

00:44:19.000 You don't hear the signals.

00:44:20.000 You're designed for adaptation.

00:44:22.000 So the issue is that you can – like kids with damaged motor control systems have a diagnosis of cerebral palsy.

00:44:28.000 That's what it means if you have CP as a kid.

00:44:31.000 If the part of your brain doesn't work, the motor control part, yet those kids walk around fine.

00:44:36.000 They're cognitively totally intact.

00:44:37.000 They're totally bright, geniuses, but they just have this one part of their brain that doesn't work.

00:44:40.000 But those kids figure out.

00:44:41.000 They turn the foot out, collapse the ankle, becomes stable.

00:44:44.000 They let the knee come in like a valgus knee, like a torn ACL knee, become stable.

00:44:49.000 Internally rotate the hip, boom, become stable.

00:44:51.000 Overextend the back, become stable.

00:44:53.000 Internally rotate the shoulder, These are kind of the body's secondary positions of stability.

00:44:58.000 So it's that weird posture that they develop.

00:45:00.000 It's a position of mechanical stability.

00:45:03.000 Wow.

00:45:03.000 And it's because they don't have full control of their body.

00:45:06.000 That's right.

00:45:06.000 So they adjust, and that's the position they adjust to.

00:45:09.000 They default to this stable position, which is exactly the position you default to.

00:45:13.000 Can you teach someone who has cerebral palsy how to be stable?

00:45:18.000 No.

00:45:18.000 Well, they're already stable.

00:45:19.000 The question is that we know they're going to wear out their knee, they're going to wear out their hip.

00:45:23.000 It's the same set of problems we see with people who jump and land wrong at speed.

00:45:28.000 The same people when you see a bad front squat gone wrong, right?

00:45:31.000 When the knee comes in, the back overextends, the hip impinges.

00:45:36.000 This is the exercicio, the exercise, the training, is basically the exaggerated reality of what sport is or movement in life.

00:45:46.000 If you're holding your baby and your shoulder's forward, this feels stable, but this is the position that a lot of my tactical athletes have to spend time in.

00:45:53.000 They're weapons in this position, shoulders forward.

00:45:56.000 So it turns out if I'm missing my internal rotation on my shoulder, because I'm designed for survival, my body's got a backup plan for me.

00:46:03.000 Boom! 0.99

00:46:03.000 Shoulder comes forward. 0.99

00:46:04.000 I can still fight.

00:46:05.000 I can still move.

00:46:06.000 But this is why my shoulder starts to ache.

00:46:08.000 It's not working.

00:46:08.000 Look, my pec doesn't even work like a pec anymore, right?

00:46:11.000 It's destabilizing my chest.

00:46:12.000 I'm living off this front delt.

00:46:13.000 That's how I tore my biceps tendon.

00:46:15.000 So what ends up happening is that I get away with it for a while until I can't or until I have catastrophic injury or I start to get stiff in that position.

00:46:23.000 Then when I go put my arm over my head or do something bad, you know, I get hammered on it.

00:46:28.000 That's interesting because, you know, in a lot of positions, the correct defensive position puts you in a very awkward place, like the way your body's rotating.

00:46:35.000 The correct defensive position, especially, you know, for kickboxing, like you're all hunched in and your shoulders are pressed to your chin.

00:46:43.000 That's okay.

00:46:43.000 I can still be stable here.

00:46:45.000 So look at this position, right?

00:46:47.000 One arm forward?

00:46:48.000 That's not bad?

00:46:48.000 No, no.

00:46:49.000 Okay.

00:46:49.000 So, but look at my shoulders.

00:46:51.000 I can still create a stable position.

00:46:52.000 What I'm trying to get at is that there's some techniques, especially martial arts techniques, where they require these crazy movements, like wheel kicks, things along those, axe kicks.

00:47:04.000 But the issue is, is that done under high load or is it done under high speed?

00:47:09.000 So like punching, for example, and jump me if I'm wrong, right?

00:47:12.000 I typically start in a very stable shoulder position.

00:47:15.000 Hands are up protecting the face, right?

00:47:17.000 And I can punch as hard as I can.

00:47:19.000 The shoulder is mechanically very stable here where I can transmit a lot of energy from my shoulders, from my hips.

00:47:24.000 But then the arm unwinds, right, for this moment.

00:47:28.000 And what happens is it unwinds, I create a little capsular slack, which allows me to create high impulse speed, but not a lot of force.

00:47:36.000 So in being smooth with the movement, you develop more power because It's faster, and it torques in, and you got a lot of extra snaps going on.

00:47:45.000 What I'm saying is that this is in a very stable position at the end for my shoulder, but I don't have to be in a very stable position.

00:47:50.000 If I grab you then in this position, what happens?

00:47:53.000 This is a very different thing.

00:47:55.000 Then you turn and twist.

00:47:56.000 That's right.

00:47:56.000 So why is it that you're grabbing a gi or shirt, you come into this position.

00:48:00.000 Well, it turns out this is a stable position for the shoulder, right?

00:48:03.000 That grip.

00:48:04.000 Incredibly stable in comparison to this.

00:48:06.000 You do that judo, right?

00:48:06.000 You got that hand in there.

00:48:07.000 That guy gets you here.

00:48:09.000 And this is this flexion and external rotation.

00:48:10.000 And what we're saying for folks who are listening to this on iTunes, Kelly's just basically showing your hand in your fist sort of sideways in front of you.

00:48:20.000 And that's a very stable position.

00:48:21.000 If you were holding a bag of cat litter, this would be the position of what you're showing.

00:48:25.000 Two hands, yeah.

00:48:27.000 Cat litter holds.

00:48:27.000 And you're holding it up to your mouth.

00:48:29.000 The cat litter bag of death.

00:48:30.000 I don't know why you would be doing that.

00:48:32.000 You know, if you were doing it that way.

00:48:33.000 Same position.

00:48:34.000 Or if you're holding your baby, right?

00:48:35.000 Right.

00:48:36.000 No, I don't hold my baby like this. 1.00

00:48:37.000 That's fucked up. 0.99

00:48:38.000 The front rack baby position. 1.00

00:48:40.000 The kid would be like, put me down, you freak.

00:48:42.000 What's the Saturday Night Live?

00:48:43.000 He spikes the baby.

00:48:44.000 Don't do that.

00:48:44.000 I want to ask you this before I forget, because I think it's really important.

00:48:47.000 When you were talking about people with awkward movement, what do you do for someone, like say, that didn't do any athletics as a kid, and then they're 30 years old and they want to try jiu-jitsu, and they really don't know how to move right?

00:48:59.000 So there's a local MMA school in our neighborhood.

00:49:01.000 One of my friends is a Sambo fighter and teaches it.

00:49:04.000 And these kids come in and they're like, this is going to be awesome.

00:49:07.000 And he's like, oh lord, you can't even absorb force in this position.

00:49:11.000 So he ends up teaching the fundamentals of movement, which look a lot like, can you squat, yes or no?

00:49:18.000 Ask kids to get in a good position of wrestling and guard.

00:49:22.000 What is this position?

00:49:24.000 What we have to do is give people the context and the language The language cues to be able to express that in that form of fighting. 0.91

00:49:35.000 For example, I can say things like, your shoulder isn't normal unless you can jerk. 0.90

00:49:43.000 For those of you who don't know jerking, in the Olympics everyone knows jerking.

00:49:48.000 But in the Olympics, when you're putting your arm over your head, you stop because your triceps get weak and you drop down underneath the bar.

00:49:53.000 So if you were picking up something really heavy, like a log, you would jump it up and then drop underneath it and stand back up. 0.79

00:49:58.000 So that's the jerk in the Olympic lift.

00:50:00.000 But what I'm teaching you to do is be able to create a stable shoulder and lengthen from both sides at the same time. 0.91

00:50:06.000 The same thing you would do is if you're pushing someone and had to create distance away from them.

00:50:11.000 So I grab you, I push like in football and I have to create distance.

00:50:17.000 You have to be able to kind of express this complex movement and the problem is We jump people into sport and hope they do it without having any of the tools to be able to functionally, maybe they might even have the range of motion to do that, and they definitely don't have the motor control to express that.

00:50:34.000 And kids who figure that out because they, you know, if you ever did a backbend, right, as a kid, that turns out to be a globally arched position, right?

00:50:45.000 That's what your spine should be able to do.

00:50:46.000 And it turns out you're teaching kids what the stable front rack position is.

00:50:51.000 Which is the position where they would Olympic lift or create shoulder position or this protected head position, right, or I'm grabbing you is the same expression as climbing a rope or, you know, doing that back bend back roll.

00:51:05.000 So it's just all about stability in these positions.

00:51:07.000 Do you have the fluency, the language of the human movement?

00:51:11.000 And the key is that you're seeing your shoulder as this very complex system.

00:51:14.000 You're like, it has a rotator cuff and a labrum and I don't even know what that is but it has one, right?

00:51:20.000 But your brain is wired for movement.

00:51:22.000 It's not wired for musculature.

00:51:24.000 You can't test a manual muscle test.

00:51:27.000 Your brain is wired to move.

00:51:29.000 So this phone, right?

00:51:31.000 Right.

00:51:31.000 Do you need to understand the technology behind the crystal and how temperature affects battery life and how the interface of the software affects?

00:51:38.000 No.

00:51:39.000 I do if I'm high.

00:51:42.000 Okay.

00:51:42.000 It's true.

00:51:43.000 I want to know what the fuck's going on in there. 1.00

00:51:45.000 I'm like, this is crazy. 1.00

00:51:46.000 Who figured this shit out? 0.99

00:51:47.000 I can take your phone apart. 1.00

00:51:48.000 I can take it apart by 4 p.m.

00:51:50.000 Get your toe.

00:51:51.000 So the issue is you need to be a master at using the phone.

00:51:54.000 Right.

00:51:54.000 You need to turn on and off.

00:51:55.000 You need to move your apps around.

00:51:56.000 That's all you need to know.

00:51:57.000 Right.

00:51:58.000 Your body is so complex that you don't need to know the engineering.

00:52:01.000 It's nice.

00:52:01.000 Someone needs to know the engineering.

00:52:02.000 You need to know the operation and the operation is brutally simple.

00:52:06.000 Well it's really fascinating the idea of physical intelligence and it's fascinating that it was always called physical education.

00:52:13.000 I think what you're saying makes a whole lot of sense and even more so than teaching kids sports.

00:52:19.000 Like, teaching kids to use their body first is probably the most important thing before they even engage in sports.

00:52:25.000 The Russians and the Chinese figured this out, didn't they? 1.00

00:52:27.000 They figured out a lot of shit, man. 1.00

00:52:32.000 They figured that shit out. 1.00

00:52:34.000 Right, so they did figure that out. 1.00

00:52:35.000 They figured out this front rack position is a stable position, right?

00:52:38.000 Putting your arm overhead in the snatch, stable position.

00:52:40.000 Of course they figured it out because we're human beings and we're obsessed with figuring it out.

00:52:43.000 Olympic lifting has been around for a hundred years, maybe, right?

00:52:46.000 A little more.

00:52:47.000 Do you think how many people blew out their shoulder were learning the technique and then all of a sudden we figured out what the best technique is?

00:52:52.000 And now we live in an age where You can go on the internet and figure out how to Olympic lift from the best Olympic lifters.

00:52:57.000 People are showing that out.

00:52:58.000 Watch it on your phone.

00:52:59.000 It's amazing.

00:53:00.000 So people show up now at the little MMA studio and they know a lot about MMA, right?

00:53:05.000 And they're fit.

00:53:07.000 And that's because we're starting to see best practices come apart.

00:53:10.000 People are kind of coming together in In systems approach, right?

00:53:15.000 The nutrition is dialed.

00:53:16.000 You know, you talk to the average person who takes care of their body and they're like, yeah, I'm gluten-free and I drink, I put MCT oil in my coffee, what about it?

00:53:23.000 You know what I mean?

00:53:23.000 Like that's...

00:53:24.000 That's me, dog.

00:53:25.000 That's right, because it tastes better.

00:53:27.000 It does.

00:53:28.000 So, but you're right.

00:53:29.000 I think the question then is, where do we...

00:53:32.000 Yeah, can you take a guy who's 30?

00:53:34.000 If you're teaching them a sport, like say if you're teaching them a martial art or something like that, should it almost be required to teach them how to move first?

00:53:42.000 Well, we...

00:53:43.000 It would be nice.

00:53:44.000 At some point, though, don't you do some conditioning every single time you're fighting?

00:53:49.000 At the end of wrestling practice or fighting practice?

00:53:51.000 No.

00:53:51.000 Not jiu-jitsu.

00:53:52.000 Jiu-jitsu, you go over drills.

00:53:53.000 Then when you're done with drills, you just go to war.

00:53:55.000 So what are drills?

00:53:55.000 Wait, what are drills?

00:53:56.000 They're just going over the technique.

00:53:57.000 Uh-uh.

00:53:57.000 There's no...

00:53:58.000 Uh-uh.

00:53:58.000 The technique.

00:53:59.000 And the technique has been worked out about what the position...

00:54:03.000 I'm saying there's no lifting weights or anything like that.

00:54:06.000 Oh, there is.

00:54:06.000 It's your body, right?

00:54:09.000 Let's just say one of my NFL coaches that I know, he's a strength coach, right?

00:54:14.000 He's like, how much pressing do my guys need to do in the season?

00:54:16.000 All they do is out there and press.

00:54:18.000 So we take young gymnasts.

00:54:20.000 One of our kids at our gym was a former national champion gymnast at UCLA. She is a machine and she understands innately what some of these really good positions are because she's been doing them her whole life.

00:54:32.000 So now I take that skill set, throw it into a sport, and she's a monster. 1.00

00:54:35.000 So the question is, what's the best way To create these athletes with this ready state where then they can start picking up sports.

00:54:42.000 Can I remodel people?

00:54:44.000 You betcha.

00:54:45.000 I've done it a thousand times.

00:54:46.000 We take people who are the best and we make them better.

00:54:50.000 We take people who are not the best and we break them into world record holders.

00:54:53.000 We take people who are injured and messed up and we set world championships.

00:54:57.000 The testing ground for this information is at the highest level of sport and performance.

00:55:01.000 That's how we test it.

00:55:03.000 Then we take those principles and drills and it has to be able to scale from the injured athlete to the Olympian, from the mom and dad to the kid to the fighter, it's all the same.

00:55:11.000 So what you're essentially saying is that people who are not fit and not well-rounded in their athleticism are successful, if they're fighters especially, in spite Of their ability, their physical ability.

00:55:24.000 But enhancing that physical ability and balancing, they would take them to the next level.

00:55:28.000 That's right.

00:55:29.000 So we look at someone, you know, why is that foot flat?

00:55:33.000 Well, it's because no one ever made them an Olympic lift or practiced jumping and rounding or consciously said, when you jump up from the bottom position, you know, out of guard, jump up, I want you to hit and screw your feet into the ground.

00:55:46.000 So, the key is, how do I develop these skills?

00:55:49.000 And I can do it in my laboratory, which is the gym.

00:55:51.000 Because the gym isn't just about working harder.

00:55:53.000 When you're working out, it's not about working out.

00:55:55.000 It's about re-producing the skills.

00:55:57.000 So let's take some of my tactical guys, right?

00:55:59.000 The ninjas I get to work with.

00:56:01.000 They go in and clear a room.

00:56:03.000 They're taught to have feet straight because they need to sweep from side to side and they need to have movement options, right?

00:56:08.000 Just watch O-Dark 30. It's legit.

00:56:10.000 Or Active Valor.

00:56:11.000 Those guys walk in.

00:56:12.000 Feet are straight.

00:56:13.000 They can clear the room side to side.

00:56:15.000 They can move.

00:56:16.000 So if I come in and one of my foots turned out, well, I can't turn.

00:56:20.000 My sweep is off, right?

00:56:21.000 Where did I sweep my weapon?

00:56:23.000 If you jump and land, and you sweep from my legs, and when my legs has turned out, I can't move as efficiently than that.

00:56:27.000 So, how do I develop that practice?

00:56:29.000 Because, even when I'm cleaning a room with terrorists, or I'm in the middle of a fight, the last thing I'm thinking about, or should be thinking about, is my foot position.

00:56:36.000 That happens automatically.

00:56:37.000 That's why we do so many drills.

00:56:39.000 But in kickboxing and Muay Thai, there's a lot of times when you're in really awkward positions and that's where you're supposed to be.

00:56:45.000 How about kickboxing when you have to stand sideways?

00:56:48.000 There's a lot of times when you're throwing front leg techniques, you're standing very awkward.

00:56:52.000 So don't confuse the formal language.

00:56:55.000 Because my body can twist and contort.

00:56:58.000 If we teach rotation, for example, we don't spend a lot of time teaching rotation because it happens.

00:57:03.000 We spend a lot of time training the resisting of rotation.

00:57:06.000 Yet when it comes time, if the athlete is mobile, they can twist and resist that twist.

00:57:11.000 So you end up in these bad positions and my goal is to create a movement library With as much capacity in that as I can, so my athletes are positionally strong.

00:57:20.000 They can be strong and stable and generate a lot of force in those bad positions because you're going to be in bad positions.

00:57:24.000 So how about this?

00:57:26.000 So let's stay in good positions if you can, but if you're in bad positions because you do so many good positions, you'll have more strength.

00:57:32.000 That's right.

00:57:32.000 And you'll be in a more optimized position.

00:57:35.000 So even in awkward movements like wheel Yes.

00:57:37.000 Front leg side kicks where your body is completely twisted.

00:57:40.000 You're still going to have much more stability.

00:57:42.000 That's right.

00:57:43.000 And you still won't compromise because we're still assuming that you can do everything that a human should be able to do.

00:57:47.000 Full range of motion meaning.

00:57:49.000 But that's nebulous.

00:57:50.000 Because people are like, what is full range of motion?

00:57:52.000 I don't know what nebulous is.

00:57:55.000 No, you know, unclear.

00:57:57.000 Do you know what nebulous is?

00:57:58.000 I thought it was like something to do with space.

00:58:00.000 Like the ceiling.

00:58:02.000 So the idea is...

00:58:06.000 Just Google it.

00:58:07.000 Sorry.

00:58:08.000 Is it that stuff inside the girl where it feels like cauliflower or like a brain? 0.53

00:58:11.000 No, that's warts, bro.

00:58:14.000 In the form of a cloud or haze.

00:58:17.000 In the form of a cloud or haze, unclear, vague, or ill-defined.

00:58:21.000 Nebulous.

00:58:22.000 There we go.

00:58:22.000 Like a nebula.

00:58:24.000 Yeah.

00:58:24.000 Like the girl nebula.

00:58:25.000 Full of space.

00:58:26.000 So, you know, I don't even know where we're going now.

00:58:30.000 Well, we're just talking about athletes.

00:58:32.000 We're talking about teaching people movement.

00:58:34.000 So if you can create a...

00:58:37.000 Library of human movement.

00:58:38.000 Library of positions and mechanics.

00:58:41.000 Then what ends up, you teach this formal language, then athletes have the capacity, they can be in these shapes.

00:58:45.000 So what I was going to say is, you know, the physiology is known to us.

00:58:48.000 So if you're missing range of motion in your shoulder, because most of us are.

00:58:52.000 Why?

00:58:52.000 Because you live in this environment, you're designed to be able to create torque on your little laptop all day long in these bad positions.

00:59:00.000 And so you end up getting stiff.

00:59:02.000 Your body adapts to exactly what you threw at it. 0.96

00:59:05.000 So if your nutrition is crap, it's going to look like that and reflect that, right? 0.96

00:59:08.000 The animal reflects the reality. 0.98

00:59:10.000 I had this great PT instructor, pediatrics instructors, like, muscles and tissues are like obedient dogs.

00:59:17.000 You just have to have the will.

00:59:18.000 So what I'm saying is...

00:59:20.000 That's what posture is all about, right?

00:59:21.000 Well, posture is about...

00:59:22.000 Are you in a good position? 0.99

00:59:23.000 I'm in the fucking will to stay on my face all the time. 0.99

00:59:27.000 This is what, Brian, you've now coined this. 1.00

00:59:31.000 This is, look at my delicious breasts. 1.00

00:59:33.000 I know. 0.98

00:59:33.000 It's perfect. 0.98

00:59:34.000 It sucks. 0.97

00:59:35.000 I'm in so much pain right now. 0.99

00:59:36.000 It's a perfect way to describe it.

00:59:37.000 So look what you've done.

00:59:39.000 Sitting, for example, is one of the most...

00:59:41.000 You're teaching someone who will never learn.

00:59:43.000 He's not gonna listen to you?

00:59:44.000 Well, I think my injury is, honestly, it happens once or twice a year.

00:59:48.000 I crash at somebody's house.

00:59:50.000 You sleep in a weird position.

00:59:51.000 And they have too many pills. 0.98

00:59:52.000 It's usually older black men. 0.98

00:59:56.000 I'll wake up because I've been drunk so much that my neck is like this. 0.92

01:00:01.000 I've been sleeping the whole night.

01:00:02.000 That can be called Saturday Night Palsy.

01:00:04.000 People fall asleep on their arm and they kill a nerve and they actually end up with long thoracic nerve damage.

01:00:11.000 You wake up with pins and needles and your body's freaking out.

01:00:15.000 But if you pass out in a bad position, that's why you put people in a recovery position.

01:00:19.000 Not only for the vomit so they don't numb their hands.

01:00:22.000 So what I'm saying is, we'll get back to the shoulder in a second.

01:00:26.000 You've adopted a sitting position right there that's wise.

01:00:29.000 It's basically laying down.

01:00:31.000 Yeah, I'm trying to lay down as much as possible nowadays.

01:00:34.000 So there's three positions that help you stabilize your back in standing.

01:00:37.000 One is that your butt squeeze sets your position of your pelvis relative, right?

01:00:42.000 And you can hear this cue. 0.96

01:00:43.000 Squeeze your butt overhead. 0.93

01:00:45.000 Point your toes in the air. 0.94

01:00:46.000 The gymnast will say, if your butt's not squeezed, you're not in a good position. 0.99

01:00:48.000 You can tell.

01:00:49.000 I love gymnasts.

01:00:51.000 What a great attitude.

01:00:52.000 Most of them are 12. The ones that are older than that, dude.

01:00:58.000 You don't have to go there.

01:01:01.000 I assume you're not taking advice from 12-year-olds on how to move.

01:01:04.000 I just assumed it was a 30-year-old.

01:01:06.000 At least 18. I'm thinking dirty over 30. That's what I'm thinking.

01:01:09.000 Hey, I'm not the one who spent all the time in Thailand.

01:01:12.000 Sorry.

01:01:14.000 My apologies. 0.99

01:01:15.000 So if your butt sets your position in your pelvis, right? 1.00

01:01:17.000 And you squeeze your butt. 0.99

01:01:18.000 Can you squeeze your butt right now? 0.99

01:01:19.000 That's awkward. 0.99

01:01:20.000 Don't do it.

01:01:20.000 You're not going to last more like 10 seconds there, right?

01:01:22.000 So it's impossible.

01:01:23.000 The second stability system is your abs.

01:01:25.000 And I'm talking about your trunk.

01:01:27.000 You know, it's the whole core, right?

01:01:29.000 The whole system, the sleeve.

01:01:30.000 All of that integrates to create high intra-abdominal pressure and stability, including your pelvic floor, right?

01:01:36.000 Sphincture to belly button.

01:01:38.000 Well, the reason you ki-eye and shout is to create intra-abdominal pressure so you can stabilize the system.

01:01:42.000 Maybe you, not me.

01:01:44.000 You silently ki-eye?

01:01:45.000 I use magic, bro.

01:01:46.000 When I'm ki-eyeing, I'm magic. 0.54

01:01:47.000 You throw fireballs?

01:01:48.000 That's right, in my mind.

01:01:50.000 So...

01:01:51.000 The third thing is that we create, we screw the feet into the ground.

01:01:54.000 This torsion of creating grip through the same grip.

01:01:59.000 Is that good?

01:02:00.000 Do you go towards?

01:02:01.000 No.

01:02:01.000 Externally rotate, right?

01:02:03.000 So that's right.

01:02:03.000 Wax on, wax off was teaching what?

01:02:06.000 Steven Seagal always throws in the same position.

01:02:08.000 Screwing the light bulb in.

01:02:09.000 Look at the way he runs, son.

01:02:11.000 Look at the way he runs.

01:02:12.000 You ever see him run?

01:02:13.000 That's a perfect example.

01:02:15.000 Pull up Steven Seagal running.

01:02:16.000 It's a perfect example to see if Kelly can fix the way Steven Seagal runs.

01:02:20.000 And this is no disrespect to Steven Seagal.

01:02:22.000 Steven Seagal is an excellent martial artist.

01:02:25.000 He's very good at Aikido.

01:02:26.000 I mean, he was one of the first Japanese-Americans, rather, to teach in Japan.

01:02:30.000 That's right.

01:02:30.000 At a legitimate, respected dojo.

01:02:32.000 Now, Aikido, they figured out, to throw people, you're winding the shoulder up into what position?

01:02:38.000 This external rotating position.

01:02:40.000 Yeah, and then you have a tremendous amount of power with that, as well as with Judo.

01:02:44.000 Same positions.

01:02:44.000 Grabbing a hold, getting yourself in a position.

01:02:47.000 Look at him running.

01:02:48.000 Tell me what's wrong here.

01:02:49.000 Everything is wrong.

01:02:50.000 He has a lot wrong there, right?

01:02:52.000 We taught him how to run.

01:02:54.000 Look at this.

01:02:56.000 Look at how he's running.

01:02:56.000 Actually, you know, it's not bad.

01:02:58.000 He's running on the ball of his foot.

01:03:01.000 Is that why he looks weird?

01:03:02.000 Let's back that up.

01:03:03.000 Now he's getting older and he's getting overextended.

01:03:05.000 Oh, he got full of fat.

01:03:06.000 This is a different movie.

01:03:08.000 This is a guy who started to get stiff and fly around and play a little bit too much music. 0.98

01:03:12.000 Everybody talks shit about him, but the dude is a legitimate martial artist. 0.98

01:03:16.000 He knows a lot about martial arts. 0.99

01:03:17.000 I wanted to be a Navy SEAL cook after I saw one of his movies.

01:03:20.000 Lyoto Machida legitimately takes advice from that guy. 0.98

01:03:22.000 Everybody thinks it's bullshit and they think I'm just trolling.

01:03:25.000 Lyoto Machida respects that guy enough to take instruction from him and to listen to him talk. 0.93

01:03:30.000 Why wouldn't he?

01:03:31.000 He figured a lot of things out.

01:03:32.000 The key is that a lot of us don't have the metacognition or meta awareness.

01:03:37.000 I want to see if he runs on his toes though.

01:03:38.000 I need to see that.

01:03:39.000 Ball of the foot.

01:03:40.000 So let's tie a couple conversations together.

01:03:42.000 Ball of the foot is good.

01:03:43.000 So let's be clear.

01:03:45.000 Okay, let's see how he's running.

01:03:45.000 There is either running or not running.

01:03:47.000 No, he's hitting heel first, man. 0.72

01:03:49.000 Yeah, but he's got his breasts out. 1.00

01:03:50.000 He's hitting heel first. 0.93

01:03:52.000 No way.

01:03:53.000 His arms are real crazy.

01:03:56.000 That guy is flat-footed when he's landing. 1.00

01:03:58.000 He is running terrible and you're crazy. 0.98

01:04:00.000 Flat-footed is okay. 0.99

01:04:01.000 What's not okay?

01:04:02.000 Ball of the foot strikes first.

01:04:04.000 That's not okay.

01:04:05.000 That's okay.

01:04:05.000 Oh, that's okay.

01:04:06.000 There's some variation there.

01:04:06.000 That's not what he's doing.

01:04:07.000 Well, it's hard to tell. 1.00

01:04:08.000 I'm talking shit. 0.99

01:04:09.000 It's not hard to tell. 1.00

01:04:09.000 He's moving really fast. 1.00

01:04:10.000 I'm talking shit. 1.00

01:04:11.000 I mean, it might have been the ball of the foot first. 1.00

01:04:13.000 Here's what I would think.

01:04:14.000 It's his hands.

01:04:15.000 His arms are...

01:04:16.000 That's less efficient.

01:04:18.000 What's going on there?

01:04:19.000 What's all that about?

01:04:20.000 Unstable.

01:04:21.000 Unstable.

01:04:21.000 So unstable.

01:04:22.000 And that's what he's looking for.

01:04:23.000 Well, that's how he uses his Aikido, though.

01:04:26.000 He's like whip-like.

01:04:27.000 Oh, so you mean practice makes permanent?

01:04:29.000 Is that what it is?

01:04:30.000 He practices that a whole bunch and that's the only way?

01:04:31.000 So even when he runs, he's got that sort of whipping motion going on with his arms?

01:04:35.000 That kind of makes sense.

01:04:36.000 That totally makes sense.

01:04:37.000 So when we teach people to run, we say, hey, pretend like you're grabbing two chips.

01:04:40.000 Right.

01:04:41.000 Put your shoulders in this position.

01:04:42.000 This external rotate position makes your shoulders stable.

01:04:45.000 It creates stability in the head.

01:04:47.000 How are you carrying your chips, man?

01:04:49.000 You have two potato chips.

01:04:51.000 Don't crust the chips.

01:04:51.000 Two of them.

01:04:52.000 Imagine that you're grabbing something else and you want to be gentle.

01:04:55.000 Right.

01:04:56.000 Can you say my name like Coco?

01:04:58.000 I don't understand.

01:04:58.000 Coco.

01:04:59.000 Put your elbows tight with the chips.

01:05:01.000 No, no.

01:05:02.000 This is how you should be running.

01:05:03.000 You're just holding on the chips.

01:05:05.000 This is how you run to protect those chips.

01:05:06.000 So where are his hands going?

01:05:08.000 Across his body.

01:05:09.000 So how much force is he giving away all that?

01:05:11.000 So if my hand's coming across, I've got to stop it.

01:05:13.000 It's a big heavy load.

01:05:13.000 I want to minimize that.

01:05:15.000 When you see kids run with their elbows out, like R2-D2, that's a test that C-3PO runs with his arms out.

01:05:21.000 Yeah, what is that?

01:05:22.000 R2-D2 doesn't have arms.

01:05:24.000 I'm just letting you talk, dude.

01:05:26.000 Don't try to test me.

01:05:27.000 Just seeing if you're here, bro.

01:05:29.000 Just seeing if you're here.

01:05:29.000 I'm fine.

01:05:30.000 So rewinding, you were talking about squeezing the butt earlier. 0.73

01:05:33.000 We're coming back.

01:05:34.000 So the issue is, do you know how to run?

01:05:39.000 Right.

01:05:40.000 If you take people's shoes off, they run the same way.

01:05:43.000 People were designed for evolution.

01:05:45.000 That means you probably have one running pattern that you would do slow and fast.

01:05:49.000 You wouldn't have one running pattern that you would do slow and a completely different movement pattern that you would do when you sprint.

01:05:54.000 You would be able to cycle up and down.

01:05:56.000 We know what the injury running rates are.

01:05:58.000 You can't heel strike. 0.97

01:05:59.000 Every kid is born with their heel flat on the ground, not in tight shoes.

01:06:02.000 So running is running the way you would run barefoot.

01:06:06.000 So you can get away with heel striking if you're running on soft surfaces?

01:06:09.000 Why do you have to run on a soft surface?

01:06:10.000 Right.

01:06:11.000 Yeah, right.

01:06:11.000 If I can make all these conditions, if I have my $150 shoes and my inserts and I run on a soft surface or a treadmill and I can run like this until I can't.

01:06:19.000 Right.

01:06:20.000 You should be able to run.

01:06:20.000 You're designed to be 110 years old when you're designed to be pain free for that 110 years.

01:06:25.000 That's it.

01:06:26.000 So, when you start to wear a hole in your kneecap, because you've been heel striking, and that heel comes down, the whole quad loads, knee comes forward, creates a ton of shear, you wear a hole in your kneecap, and you see your doctor, and the doctor's like, uh, you should stop running.

01:06:37.000 And you say things like, well, you know, you're the worst doctor ever.

01:06:40.000 You're not allowing me to express myself through my running.

01:06:42.000 This is BS. Well, and it's the same thing.

01:06:44.000 Well, the doctor's saying something very reasonable. 0.99

01:06:46.000 Hey, you're moving like crap. 1.00

01:06:47.000 You've destroyed your body. 1.00

01:06:49.000 Something's gotta change.

01:06:50.000 How did that heel striking happen because of a shoe design?

01:06:53.000 That's right.

01:06:53.000 That's 100% right.

01:06:54.000 That is so strange.

01:06:55.000 If you really stop and think about that, how many people run like that?

01:06:58.000 Heel down first and it all came about because of a shoe design.

01:07:02.000 Check this out.

01:07:03.000 Kids don't heel strike until about the first grade. 0.51

01:07:06.000 No kid under the first grade, until Christmas, heel strikes.

01:07:10.000 They all run beautifully.

01:07:11.000 Then they go home at Christmas break, and half of them ask for a heel strike for Christmas, and what happens is they've started sitting long enough.

01:07:18.000 You know what sitting does to your body.

01:07:20.000 It feels wretched, but it's okay for our kids to sit eight hours a day.

01:07:23.000 We talk to all the coaches who coach young kids, and they all say the same thing.

01:07:27.000 They're so short in the hip. 1.00

01:07:29.000 They all move like crap. 0.99

01:07:30.000 We have to undo the sitting from the day before we can even get any work done. 0.98

01:07:33.000 We also start to shorten their heel cords.

01:07:36.000 We make this joke about Chinese foot binding.

01:07:39.000 It's archaic.

01:07:40.000 But you're designed with your feet flat on the ground.

01:07:42.000 And what we do is we start to systematically lift that heel up.

01:07:47.000 Like the shoe I'm in has a four millimeter drop, a three or four millimeter drop.

01:07:50.000 That's still a high heel shoe.

01:07:51.000 It's not flat.

01:07:53.000 So if we look at some people's Nikes or some of these other shoes, they have upwards of a centimeter and a half, which is basically a high heel shoe.

01:08:00.000 So we're walking around shortening the heel cord.

01:08:04.000 Yeah.

01:08:04.000 Right?

01:08:04.000 Which means I take away your ankle range of motion, and suddenly you start to figure out, oh, I can walk with my feet turned out a little bit.

01:08:09.000 It makes my ankles more effective with this shortened heel cord position.

01:08:13.000 If I take that body and I said, okay, here's a stable young kid with a brilliant spine, right, young, we're doing gymnastics, and I just can't the whole thing forward a centimeter and a half from the bottom...

01:08:25.000 That projects out over the spine of the kid, maybe two centimeters, three centimeters, so the whole kid's center mass is forward.

01:08:30.000 And because you're a human being, you'll just compensate for it.

01:08:32.000 So we start to adopt these patterns.

01:08:34.000 The same patterns that if I'm texting in this crappy position, my upper back is rounded.

01:08:41.000 That means when I look up, so if I look at like a simple position, like if I just kind of round and text, I pick my head up.

01:08:48.000 My head's naturally level because my eyes are going to always get to the horizon line.

01:08:53.000 But if I sit up, look what position my head is in.

01:08:56.000 Right.

01:08:57.000 I didn't change my neck position.

01:08:58.000 I changed my upper back position.

01:08:59.000 Right.

01:09:00.000 So now I'm having this kind of car accident in my cervical spine, my neck, where I get lower cervical flexion, upper cervical extension.

01:09:07.000 And not only does this wear out discs and cause osteophytes, But it's less effective position when you take a shot to the head or you need to generate force.

01:09:16.000 Your body prioritizes that nervous system above all other things.

01:09:20.000 And you know this, when you injured your back, how stoked were you to have wild sex? 0.98

01:09:24.000 You still wanted to have wild sex, but you weren't stoked, right? 0.98

01:09:26.000 Because your back hurt so bad. 0.98

01:09:28.000 You injure your nervous system, my athletes go down, I got, like, it takes me It's gonna take me two days. 0.99

01:09:33.000 If it's just a stupid spinal fault, a little tweak, two days to turn the whole thing around. 0.99

01:09:36.000 I've lost two days of training. 0.99

01:09:37.000 Most time it takes a couple weeks, right?

01:09:39.000 Before you start feeling like you want to giant force again.

01:09:41.000 Three weeks.

01:09:41.000 Now you're behind.

01:09:42.000 You're behind all of my other athletes.

01:09:44.000 Tweak your nervous system for real.

01:09:46.000 Have your leg go numb.

01:09:47.000 Your body is shutting you down because it's such a primary threat to who you are as a human being.

01:09:53.000 You have a brain to move you through the environment.

01:09:57.000 So you can interact with your environment.

01:09:59.000 That's the whole reason that the nervous system developed in the animal, to just reproduce itself.

01:10:03.000 You can feed, you can fight, you can run away.

01:10:06.000 When you trash that nervous system, your body prioritizes it in a big way.

01:10:10.000 In fact, cognition, all of the higher-order thinking of the human being, it's called the neocortex, has been bootstrapped on top of the movement brain.

01:10:18.000 So it's not an accident that like, hey, I have a meditation practice and a movement practice, right?

01:10:22.000 I have to be a really good thinker.

01:10:24.000 I have to also train hard.

01:10:25.000 Well, it's because these systems are totally integrated and to disintegrate them, to get away from the movement and just go be a piece of meat on the treadmill or the elliptical machine, does human beings a disservice.

01:10:35.000 So that's saying essentially that really brilliant people who don't take care of their body are brilliant, again, in spite of the fact that they're not reaching their full potential.

01:10:45.000 The engineering is so good.

01:10:46.000 But what about the amount of time that it takes to develop skill as opposed to the amount of time that it takes to spend doing physical training, like teaching someone a martial art, for example?

01:10:56.000 No, you only have like four days a week to train.

01:10:59.000 How many days a week would you train this guy or this gal in physical movement and how many days would you let them go to kickboxing class or go to jiu-jitsu class?

01:11:09.000 Well, the idea here is that those aren't disparate, separate systems.

01:11:13.000 It's the same movement, right?

01:11:15.000 But it's not in a lot of positions like rubber guard.

01:11:18.000 There's triangles.

01:11:19.000 There's a lot of like weird You know, positions where these are very odd positions with your feet tucked under people's chins and pulling on your foot sideways, you know?

01:11:29.000 But it's really not that weird.

01:11:31.000 If I teach you, like, we're not doing pull-ups.

01:11:34.000 I'm teaching you to create a stable pull off of the bar, right?

01:11:38.000 That's what this is really good for.

01:11:40.000 I don't think you can quite get what I'm saying. 0.96

01:11:41.000 What I'm saying is that the amount of time that it takes to get awesome at that, the amount of time to get that shit laser sharp is repetition in the technique over and over again. 0.98

01:11:50.000 I totally got it. 0.98

01:11:51.000 But you're saying it could be better still.

01:11:53.000 Well, I'm saying that the skills I'm teaching in the strength conditioning, as a side effect I become fit, as a side effect I become stronger, should integrate and support 100% of the training you're doing on the other side.

01:12:04.000 The problem is we're like, oh, this is my training, this is my conditioning and strength work.

01:12:08.000 It's the same work.

01:12:11.000 And then what ends up happening is that you'll have a stronger trunk, you'll be able to generate force from these worst positions, you'll be able to recover more quickly.

01:12:19.000 It takes a long time to develop.

01:12:21.000 So what we're asking is, you know, are you skilled?

01:12:26.000 Where are you going to put your eggs in the basket?

01:12:28.000 You should probably be skilled in all of your movement and that all of those movement skills translate in.

01:12:33.000 How many times do you need to...

01:12:35.000 People definitely get this messed up.

01:12:38.000 The most important thing to do to get good at a sport is your sport.

01:12:41.000 If you're going to be a fighter, you better do a lot of fighting.

01:12:45.000 Then I just need to do enough strength and conditioning to fit in the holes.

01:12:48.000 If you go fight and wrestle and fight and do other things, your conditioning is pretty stellar.

01:12:54.000 You probably don't need to do a whole bunch of extra conditioning.

01:12:57.000 Because you just did that on the ring.

01:12:59.000 All I have to do is fight a bunch of people once and you understand how conditioned you need to be.

01:13:03.000 But I do need a systematic way to uncover your limitations and that's why today we're going to deadlift.

01:13:10.000 And so some of the things we do even three times a week or twice a week is enough to sort of recover Or uncover the positional missing so I can see it.

01:13:21.000 How do we make the invisible visible?

01:13:22.000 Well, one thing is that these master coaches can see you fight and be like, that guy's really good.

01:13:26.000 I don't know what it is.

01:13:27.000 Let me give you an example.

01:13:29.000 I have a six-year-old daughter we call Bear.

01:13:31.000 She is the most legit human being I've ever met.

01:13:34.000 And she's wired the way I dream about being wired as a kid.

01:13:37.000 She's just like...

01:13:39.000 And so there's this old school Olympic lifting coach named Mike Bergner who is the man.

01:13:43.000 He lives down in San Diego.

01:13:44.000 He's been Olympic lifting longer than dinosaurs.

01:13:46.000 He saw Caroline move at an early kid, and he's like, you will send me Caroline.

01:13:50.000 She will live at my house in the summers.

01:13:52.000 She is an Olympic champion.

01:13:53.000 How did he decide that?

01:13:55.000 Well, she stands forward.

01:13:57.000 She creates a lot of torque automatically. 0.99

01:13:58.000 She's organized well.

01:13:59.000 Her head's balanced.

01:14:00.000 She moves in the same way that your coaches would walk down the hall and be like, hey, you play soccer, kid?

01:14:06.000 We should play.

01:14:07.000 Or someone grabbed you because you do these things.

01:14:09.000 So What I'm saying is we've got to keep developing these skills and uncovering the problems because if you just fight all the time, you're going to end up looking like a fighter and you'll adopt these positions and it's hard to sort of systematically uncover the problems.

01:14:24.000 So come back to the shoulder.

01:14:25.000 If you're going to be in a wretched position but you're missing range of motion, you don't have the control and the positioning, you will sacrifice position in that bad position and that's where you start to get injured because you get dumped on your shoulder.

01:14:37.000 That's where you're generating torque.

01:14:38.000 That's where the guy breaks your grip.

01:14:40.000 Because you're in these untenable positions and you're compromised in those untenable positions.

01:14:45.000 That's very fascinating.

01:14:47.000 How would you figure out how to schedule the time?

01:14:51.000 What would be most important?

01:14:52.000 Most important is skill.

01:14:55.000 And then right after that would be strength and conditioning.

01:14:58.000 So you would limit it to one out of four training sessions?

01:15:02.000 Say if you only had four training sessions a week.

01:15:04.000 Perfect.

01:15:04.000 One out of four.

01:15:04.000 Three of them should be...

01:15:06.000 Or let's divide them up and give me two.

01:15:07.000 Give me two 20 minute sessions.

01:15:09.000 And how would you organize it?

01:15:10.000 Would you do like the really hard physical training like the first day of the week and then do the other three days skill?

01:15:15.000 Or would you do the opposite?

01:15:16.000 Well, I think that's the conversation between your coach and you.

01:15:21.000 And that's really why you need coaching.

01:15:23.000 Right.

01:15:23.000 But what I'm getting at is should you be exhausted while you're learning the physical movements?

01:15:28.000 No.

01:15:28.000 Well, when you do skills, when are you best learning those skills?

01:15:32.000 When you're totally exhausted?

01:15:33.000 When you're fresh.

01:15:34.000 So if we're going to do high value...

01:15:39.000 I've got to look at the volume.

01:15:42.000 This is the art of coaching.

01:15:44.000 My job, especially as a strength and conditioning coach and physical therapist, is to enhance the strength, the fighting, or the sport of my athlete.

01:15:51.000 So if you're blown up and you can't fight, then what am I doing?

01:15:54.000 There's also skill to learning how to train when you're exhausted.

01:15:58.000 And that's one of the reasons why some people like to put guys through physical training first, and then take them through skill contests.

01:16:05.000 What'd Hackleman do?

01:16:06.000 Rolling and wrestling, right? 0.50

01:16:08.000 Row 500, have a fresh guy beat the crap out of you. 1.00

01:16:11.000 It's a good idea.

01:16:12.000 It seems like it's not a good idea, but it's a good idea.

01:16:14.000 It's a great idea, and then do it again and have another fresh guy beat the crap out of you. 0.99

01:16:17.000 It also teaches you how to keep your shit together when you're falling apart. 0.99

01:16:20.000 When your body's physically falling apart, it teaches you how to at least conserve enough energy and distribute it to know, like, Okay, we can't go full blast right now, but I can go right now at 40%, full clip, and then in 30 seconds I'll be back. 0.97

01:16:34.000 So in my gym, my laboratory, there's always some stimulus load combination where I'm going to exceed your capacities.

01:16:41.000 Is it going to be so heavy, or so long, or so many reps, or so you're going to be breathing so hard that you start to break down.

01:16:48.000 And the job is to spend the time at the margins of those experiences.

01:16:52.000 So to not go fully in where you're not in control of your body and you're going to get hurt.

01:16:56.000 Well, I mean, is that how you're going to be successful?

01:16:59.000 No. 1.00

01:16:59.000 If I blow myself out, I'm going to get my ass kicked. 1.00

01:17:01.000 I agree 100%, but why is it that there's a lot of meathead thinking when it comes to that? 1.00

01:17:05.000 Like, you're supposed to just fucking keep going, pussy. 1.00

01:17:08.000 Pick it up. 1.00

01:17:08.000 Meanwhile, your legs are malfunctioning. 1.00

01:17:10.000 By the way, pussies are awesome. 1.00

01:17:12.000 We should really take that word back. 1.00

01:17:13.000 If you call me a pussy, it should be like, thanks man, I'm a pussy. 1.00

01:17:16.000 No kidding. 1.00

01:17:17.000 It is a weird thing.

01:17:18.000 How did that ever get to be bad?

01:17:19.000 We start saying Sally.

01:17:20.000 We're changing it. 0.99

01:17:21.000 We're taking the word pussy back. 1.00

01:17:22.000 It's the same with dick. 1.00

01:17:24.000 Girls love dick, but they don't like a guy who's a dick. 1.00

01:17:27.000 It's basically the same thing. 1.00

01:17:28.000 That's why we say cock. 0.98

01:17:29.000 We're so weird with that. 0.99

01:17:31.000 You're right. 0.99

01:17:32.000 I've held on to Pussy the whole time. 0.99

01:17:33.000 We need to be skilled. 0.99

01:17:35.000 We talk about training age.

01:17:37.000 It takes a long time to know your capacities.

01:17:40.000 It takes a long time to know yourself as an athlete and have a coach know you.

01:17:43.000 That's the balance.

01:17:44.000 That dynamic between trainer and athlete, between coach and athlete.

01:17:48.000 I think what you're saying, too, is you keep saying trainer and athlete, but I think what you're saying really is applicable for just human beings.

01:17:55.000 I think that's one of the most important aspects of Yeah.

01:18:06.000 Yeah.

01:18:14.000 Stand-up comedy is the same thing as fighting.

01:18:18.000 It's the same thing as competing.

01:18:20.000 Stimulus is the same.

01:18:21.000 Mental state is the same. 0.95

01:18:22.000 Conscious.

01:18:23.000 I've got to stop you right there. 1.00

01:18:25.000 You're crazy. 1.00

01:18:25.000 You don't think so? 1.00

01:18:25.000 No, it's not even close. 1.00

01:18:26.000 You don't think being aware of the room and what's going on?

01:18:29.000 No, no, no.

01:18:31.000 It's not even remotely near as scary.

01:18:33.000 It's not remotely near as dangerous.

01:18:36.000 It's not remotely near as chaotic.

01:18:37.000 Take fighting out.

01:18:37.000 How about any competition?

01:18:39.000 When you're in stand-up comedy, you can essentially control the entire situation.

01:18:42.000 If you're prepared and you have your material together, you control the entire situation.

01:18:44.000 Oh, doesn't that sound like exactly what you're trying to do?

01:18:46.000 You don't always control the entire situation in a fight.

01:18:49.000 It's scarier.

01:18:50.000 I agree.

01:18:51.000 But don't you try to control as many things as you can control?

01:18:54.000 Yeah, sure.

01:18:54.000 You try to keep all your ducks in a row and get your conditioning together.

01:18:57.000 But if you're fighting a bad motherfucker, you're in for some danger. 0.99

01:19:00.000 There's no getting out of that. 0.99

01:19:01.000 In stand-up comedy, what's the worst thing that happens?

01:19:04.000 You don't laugh.

01:19:04.000 The ideas are completely different.

01:19:07.000 For a lot of people, they have this weird thing...

01:19:09.000 You don't think the mental state is the same?

01:19:10.000 No.

01:19:10.000 It's absolutely not.

01:19:11.000 It's absolutely not.

01:19:13.000 Because you can think about a lot of other things before you go on stage.

01:19:16.000 I can pal around with friends.

01:19:17.000 I can joke around with people.

01:19:19.000 I've competed before, and I was in a world of my own before I went out there.

01:19:23.000 I knew that I can't have people talk to me.

01:19:25.000 I'm visualizing what I'm going to do. 1.00

01:19:27.000 I can't be having little bullshit conversations and then go out there and fight, because you'll get kicked in the face. 0.99

01:19:32.000 It's a completely different thing. 1.00

01:19:34.000 I don't need to go loose, relaxed, you get good at it, you know how the fucking thing works, you just get out there and do it. 0.96

01:19:40.000 Well, okay, so pull that aside. 0.94

01:19:41.000 Let's say that you got loose, you have tons of reps, but performance is performance.

01:19:46.000 And the idea, though, is we should put kids in these stressful situations to teach them about their own heads.

01:19:54.000 They should sing.

01:19:55.000 They should learn how to compete because they find out about where they break down.

01:20:00.000 That's part of the reason we do sport in the first place.

01:20:03.000 To learn how to compete.

01:20:03.000 I think the worst people to be around are people that never learned how to compete.

01:20:07.000 Because they also don't learn how to lose.

01:20:09.000 They don't learn how to learn that you need more to learn. 0.97

01:20:11.000 Like, you could be fucking amazing at chess, but not even know how to play Go. 0.55

01:20:16.000 You know, when someone brings this thing out and you're like, what is this? 1.00

01:20:18.000 You get your ass kicked and go. 0.99

01:20:20.000 You've got to know what you know things and you don't know things. 1.00

01:20:23.000 And the only way to find that out, to really find that out, is through competition.

01:20:26.000 To really be told, boom, you just got crushed at this video game. 1.00

01:20:29.000 You don't know how to play this shit at all. 1.00

01:20:31.000 Let me hit you back on it. 0.99

01:20:32.000 So if you're really funny with your friends and someone's like, you should be a comic and you start speaking, you're not really a comic until you stand up in front of a bunch of strangers and do it.

01:20:39.000 You're not really a comic until you get banned from the comedy store.

01:20:43.000 That's when you become a real comic.

01:20:44.000 They ban you at least once.

01:20:46.000 I was banned twice.

01:20:47.000 So if you're a kid, though, or at some point, if you're a musician and you never play, what is that?

01:20:53.000 I hear you 100%.

01:20:55.000 You must put yourself through some stress to figure out what to do when it happens, because otherwise it's an overwhelming amount of stimuli and energy and adrenaline, and it's hard to manage.

01:21:06.000 Do you watch the tapes of you performing comedy afterwards?

01:21:10.000 Sometimes I do.

01:21:11.000 I listen to them more than I watch them, but I do sometimes.

01:21:14.000 So some of that's after action.

01:21:15.000 Some of it's your pro and you're really good at it.

01:21:16.000 But what about, do fighters look at their tapes after they fight?

01:21:19.000 I think a lot of them do.

01:21:21.000 Yeah, a lot of them do.

01:21:22.000 Because there's a lot of data there.

01:21:23.000 This is my most stressed out self. 0.99

01:21:25.000 I got to see what I did when I was tired and getting my ass kicked. 0.97

01:21:30.000 There's a lot of data there. 0.99

01:21:31.000 Yeah, without a doubt.

01:21:33.000 I think a lot of guys look at videos of their training as well, and that's very beneficial.

01:21:38.000 There's a lot of times you realize that you're doing something funny and you didn't realize it.

01:21:42.000 I know what a guy looks like when he's really good at Muay Thai.

01:21:46.000 I know how he moves.

01:21:47.000 But if I looked at myself, I'd be like, oh, I'm moving kind of goofy.

01:21:51.000 I would be able to see in a video just through training, like little errors that you can't see while you're actually doing it.

01:21:57.000 So I feel like...

01:22:00.000 Let's take this back to the pain.

01:22:01.000 Let's spin it back to common stuff.

01:22:04.000 Do you have an understanding of what your process is with your spine?

01:22:08.000 You're talking to him? 1.00

01:22:08.000 He doesn't understand shit. 1.00

01:22:10.000 Trust me. 1.00

01:22:10.000 Do I understand? 1.00

01:22:11.000 No.

01:22:12.000 So what ends up happening, it's like fighting and fighting, getting the same result over and over again. 1.00

01:22:17.000 Twice a year I get my ass kicked. 0.99

01:22:19.000 I'm good, thanks, man. 0.99

01:22:19.000 Twice a year I get my ass kicked, but I'm not really paying attention to the details. 0.99

01:22:24.000 What I'm telling people is that we can resolve a lot of crap. 0.99

01:22:28.000 Is that beer? 0.98

01:22:28.000 Apple cider. 0.98

01:22:30.000 What is it?

01:22:30.000 Cider.

01:22:31.000 Oh, cider. 0.94

01:22:32.000 We can resolve a lot of the crap. 0.97

01:22:34.000 We can take a lot of the crap off the table. 0.96

01:22:36.000 I thought it was an energy drink.

01:22:38.000 Sorry, I'm sorry.

01:22:39.000 We take a lot of crap off the table.

01:22:40.000 I apologize. 1.00

01:22:41.000 I'm an asshole. 1.00

01:22:42.000 Twice this week I've done that shit. 1.00

01:22:44.000 Sorry, Everlast. 0.99

01:22:47.000 If you can make the invisible visible.

01:22:49.000 So one of the things that I want coaches and athletes to understand is that it's hard to see some of these things.

01:22:56.000 It's hard to see some of these things.

01:22:57.000 In the gym, if I expose you to some of these movements, I can tell where you're giving away force.

01:23:03.000 I can tell where you're being inefficient.

01:23:05.000 Because the hip is the hip.

01:23:06.000 Whether you're kicking or squatting, it's the same, similar position.

01:23:09.000 So you think you could enhance someone's kicking and bunching power?

01:23:12.000 Even a guy who's really good?

01:23:14.000 Yes.

01:23:15.000 I mean, I have met only a couple people who have been what I consider in the 90%.

01:23:22.000 Like, who are just wiring and not a lot of efficiency left to be gained in the system.

01:23:27.000 And I'm not talking about skill.

01:23:28.000 You've still got to train, you've still got to be conditioned, you've still got to show up and perform.

01:23:31.000 But I'm not saying this is a done deal.

01:23:33.000 But harping back to our kids thing, how do we create this ready state, or this kid with a set of skills?

01:23:39.000 So my daughter's swim, right?

01:23:41.000 It teaches them so much about positioning.

01:23:44.000 They do gymnastics, they swim, they do a ball sport.

01:23:47.000 This is the language, but also there's some formal movement training in there.

01:23:50.000 That's in the gymnastics.

01:23:51.000 The formal movement training in the swimming.

01:23:53.000 We have to create a language and archetype so that kids can understand whether they're aware of what the shoulder needs to be doing at age, but they still know how to turn the iPad on and off.

01:24:01.000 Yeah, that totally makes sense, you know, because I'm not a very good athlete at all.

01:24:06.000 Like, I'm a black belt in taekwondo and a black belt in jiu-jitsu, but, like, I don't know how to do other sports.

01:24:11.000 Like, I don't do them well.

01:24:12.000 I can't ice skate.

01:24:13.000 Like, you put me on some ice skates, I fall. 0.98

01:24:15.000 You put me on some skis, I look retarded. 0.87

01:24:18.000 Well, that's about training. 0.95

01:24:20.000 But it is.

01:24:20.000 It's about my whole life.

01:24:22.000 I didn't do any sports.

01:24:23.000 All I did was martial arts.

01:24:24.000 So my body developed that way, and it knows how to move that way.

01:24:27.000 But if...

01:24:28.000 So...

01:24:29.000 I mean, there's nothing natural but ice skating or skiing. 0.99

01:24:32.000 My kids can fucking skate the shit out of it. 0.98

01:24:35.000 They're spinning around behind me. 1.00

01:24:36.000 Did my two-year-old learn how to fucking ski like that, dude? 1.00

01:24:41.000 I'm all awkward and shit. 1.00

01:24:42.000 Two, plastic. 0.99

01:24:43.000 Figuring it out, right? 0.98

01:24:44.000 My posture sucks. 0.96

01:24:46.000 Look at the neuroplasticity of the brain. 0.99

01:24:48.000 When does it become difficult to pick up new skills? 1.00

01:24:51.000 When you're old and fucked up like me. 0.99

01:24:53.000 Especially with bad motor patterns, right? 1.00

01:24:54.000 It's hard to undo the BS. So, if you tell me, hey, I have this fighter, this is what he does, he goes to Muay Thai, I mean, I drive past with ice cream, get my ice cream for my kids, drive past that MMA school every single day, people in there, That's probably pretty great all-around healthy fitness,

01:25:12.000 breathing hard, gonna feel great sort of things.

01:25:14.000 Right.

01:25:15.000 Until, what?

01:25:16.000 You break.

01:25:16.000 So let's just say that...

01:25:17.000 So you have a lot of imbalances, especially when you're doing boxing.

01:25:20.000 There's so much left side.

01:25:22.000 Your left side gets like literally 50% more work than your right side.

01:25:26.000 That's 100% right.

01:25:28.000 My golfers who turn one direction for a living, the fighters who lead with the left a ton, that shouldn't be a surprise.

01:25:34.000 I should start looking for more dysfunction on the left side, stiffness on the left side.

01:25:38.000 The hip doesn't turn as effectively on that right side because I'm punching off it over and over and it gets stiff.

01:25:44.000 So, if you can understand the positions, you can Program to it and that's the sort of the second half is that sometimes people's biomechanics gets messed up your tissues are just stiff your joint capsule stiff you physically can't get into the good position because you're doing it a lot then what do you do about it and so if we give people the basic tools They can turn it around.

01:26:05.000 It's weird how, like, you'll have one side that's, like, tightened up.

01:26:09.000 Like, you'll be able to throw a kick with your right leg, and it's just real smooth and easy.

01:26:14.000 But then when your left leg, there's, like, this herky-jerky, like, it's awkward.

01:26:18.000 It doesn't turn over all the way.

01:26:19.000 So if I watch you squat, I'd be like, that's the side that's all messed up.

01:26:23.000 Right, you'd be able to see right away.

01:26:24.000 I'd get into a pistol.

01:26:25.000 I'm like, oh, look at that hip.

01:26:26.000 You can see it.

01:26:28.000 So the formal language of strength conditioning makes things easier to see.

01:26:33.000 If you recognize that left side to right side and try to mobilize that position, right, address all the systems and you're moving correctly, well chances are you can probably fix it without even doing that squatting.

01:26:42.000 The squatting makes it easy to see.

01:26:44.000 It also builds efficiency in the system.

01:26:46.000 You know, it's also weird.

01:26:47.000 When you practice something left hand, it actually shows you, there's actual data to show that you get better with your right side as well.

01:26:54.000 Like there's something about practicing opposite handed in certain things that actually allows your mechanics to improve With your dominant hand.

01:27:01.000 It's because it's called deep practice.

01:27:03.000 Yeah, I've heard that with throwing.

01:27:05.000 Pitchers who throw with their left hand, it actually improves their right-handed pitch.

01:27:11.000 Because you're so conscious of the thought patterning and how it feels.

01:27:15.000 You've thrown a million times with your right hand, you throw snowballs at me, you're not even paying attention to me.

01:27:19.000 You're watching over here, right? 1.00

01:27:21.000 Your left hand is fucked up. 1.00

01:27:24.000 The left-handed. 1.00

01:27:25.000 I'm that way with pool. 0.96

01:27:26.000 I can play the shit out of some right-handed pool, but I get it in my left hand and I barely know how to move my arm. 0.92

01:27:34.000 I've been playing pool all my life. 0.96

01:27:36.000 My right arm is loose and fluid. 0.97

01:27:39.000 My left arm is all fucked up and I can't get it to go straight. 0.98

01:27:43.000 It's amazing. 0.97

01:27:43.000 Practice. 0.97

01:27:44.000 Go to the shooting range.

01:27:45.000 Go shoot with your right hand. 0.98

01:27:47.000 Go shoot with your left hand and see how bad you are with your left hand. 1.00

01:27:49.000 That's terrible. 1.00

01:27:50.000 But it looks so gangster. 0.90

01:27:51.000 Just be shooting something.

01:27:52.000 I don't even want to use my right hand, son.

01:27:55.000 So some of our ninja friends tried that.

01:27:58.000 They went like, they're para-rescue guys, and they're like, you know, they just emptied out, and they're like, they can't hit anything.

01:28:03.000 They're like, if someone shows you a pistol like this, you're pretty safe.

01:28:06.000 Yeah, unless he's like right in front of you.

01:28:08.000 Yeah.

01:28:08.000 They miss a lot, those guys.

01:28:10.000 That's a problem, right?

01:28:11.000 That's a problem in the hood.

01:28:12.000 But look what this position is.

01:28:12.000 Check this out.

01:28:13.000 Solid as fuck. 0.99

01:28:14.000 Right. 0.99

01:28:14.000 Well, what position is that? 0.99

01:28:15.000 Well, that's the rope climb position.

01:28:17.000 Same as Jiu-Jitsu.

01:28:18.000 It's the collar choke.

01:28:19.000 So if your head is neutral, And I'm controlling the area.

01:28:22.000 There's my lock-off position.

01:28:23.000 X-train rotate, X-train rotate, X-train rotate.

01:28:25.000 Boom.

01:28:25.000 And I can reload.

01:28:26.000 I'm right in here.

01:28:27.000 I can see what's going on around me.

01:28:28.000 This is how the queen waves. 1.00

01:28:30.000 She waves in that same position.

01:28:32.000 Why?

01:28:32.000 It's stable.

01:28:33.000 You can wave like this all day.

01:28:34.000 She goes like that.

01:28:35.000 No, she doesn't.

01:28:36.000 She gives you knuckles? 1.00

01:28:37.000 That's like, bitch, I don't even have to turn my fucking hand around. 1.00

01:28:41.000 I'm a royalty hooker. 1.00

01:28:42.000 We call this the backhand high five because you can backhand high five someone. 0.97

01:28:46.000 It's more stable, and it's sanitary.

01:28:48.000 She really waves like that? 1.00

01:28:49.000 That is rude. 0.94

01:28:51.000 Unless you poop on your hands. 0.97

01:28:52.000 Rude. 0.99

01:28:52.000 Wouldn't you feel like, first of all, you'd feel so fucking lucky that you were the queen. 0.99

01:28:55.000 I mean, who gets to be the queen? 1.00

01:28:56.000 You didn't, like, go to school for it.

01:28:58.000 You could wave all day like that. 1.00

01:28:59.000 You're just the fucking queen. 1.00

01:29:00.000 Try it. 1.00

01:29:00.000 Everyone at home, wave like this. 1.00

01:29:01.000 You should feel so lucky.

01:29:02.000 You're all stable.

01:29:03.000 In a second, it'd be so rude.

01:29:04.000 Now, wave like this.

01:29:05.000 Wave like this, and you're going to be tired.

01:29:07.000 It feels unstable and weak.

01:29:08.000 You should be so happy if you're the queen.

01:29:09.000 You should be bowing.

01:29:10.000 You should be so happy.

01:29:12.000 Blowing kisses.

01:29:13.000 Check this out.

01:29:14.000 If you grab, you know, drinking with your pinkies up, right?

01:29:18.000 We say pinkies up. 0.52

01:29:19.000 What's that from?

01:29:20.000 What is that really a cue to do?

01:29:23.000 Yeah, that's what it looks like.

01:29:24.000 It looks like a girl's about to give her a hand.

01:29:26.000 Here, take this.

01:29:26.000 So, if the sprinters run with their hands out wide, Right?

01:29:31.000 With the fingers out.

01:29:31.000 Right.

01:29:32.000 Because it creates stiffness at the elbow.

01:29:33.000 That makes sense.

01:29:34.000 What's the extensor stuff, or Tony Blauer's extensor?

01:29:37.000 Like, if you have extensor power, if you put the hand out, you create stiffness.

01:29:40.000 Well, that's what you're really doing with the pinky.

01:29:42.000 So people have figured it out over and over again.

01:29:44.000 That pinkies out creates stiffness. 1.00

01:29:46.000 Next time you're drinking high tea with the queen, put your fingers in, you'll be all shaky.

01:29:49.000 Fingers out, legit.

01:29:51.000 That's interesting.

01:29:53.000 You know, it's such a fascinating thing, like learning how to stabilize and put the human body into the optimum position.

01:30:01.000 And thinking of that as something like an education.

01:30:05.000 Think of that as a...

01:30:07.000 Something that can be taught to people.

01:30:09.000 Oh, it has to be observable, measurable, and repeatable.

01:30:12.000 If you work with me and we get better, the only way we can measure it is we can measure wattage and poundage and output, do your fighting positions.

01:30:19.000 That's right.

01:30:19.000 We can measure it.

01:30:20.000 And if it doesn't improve that, then what the hell are we doing?

01:30:23.000 Let me ask you this.

01:30:24.000 If you were allowed to organize children's athletics in schools and physical education, you think you will?

01:30:31.000 Are you really?

01:30:32.000 What's the plan?

01:30:33.000 What would you do once you got in there?

01:30:35.000 Would you just teach kids proper ways of movement?

01:30:38.000 Would it require one-on-one with kids?

01:30:41.000 No, no, no.

01:30:41.000 And here's the deal is that we've somehow mystified all that.

01:30:45.000 So we've gutted your school.

01:30:48.000 My kid's school gets 9 out of 10 stars.

01:30:50.000 We live in Marin County.

01:30:52.000 It's a dope school.

01:30:53.000 That's a beautiful place.

01:30:54.000 It is beautiful.

01:30:55.000 We live in San Rafael.

01:30:56.000 And it's 9 out of 10 stars, but she gets a half hour of PE once a week. 0.77

01:30:59.000 Like 9 out of 10 stars.

01:31:01.000 That's okay.

01:31:01.000 She comes home and she's like, Dad, we did dodgeball today.

01:31:04.000 You would hate it.

01:31:05.000 I didn't learn anything.

01:31:06.000 Bam.

01:31:06.000 They're allowed to do dodgeball, though.

01:31:08.000 I like that. 1.00

01:31:09.000 They're trying to take that shit away. 1.00

01:31:10.000 No, but that's called recess. 1.00

01:31:13.000 Dodgeball is not teaching skills.

01:31:14.000 So what we teach is this really rudimentary stuff.

01:31:18.000 Can you?

01:31:19.000 And there's some basic archetypes for the body.

01:31:21.000 Can you bend over and pick something up?

01:31:24.000 Right.

01:31:24.000 Can you squat correctly?

01:31:26.000 Right.

01:31:26.000 Can you run correctly?

01:31:28.000 Boom.

01:31:29.000 Can you lunge?

01:31:29.000 I mean, those are the basic shapes of the hip.

01:31:32.000 So let me ask you this.

01:31:33.000 If you had a guy like Tim Sylvia, again, we established a great fighter in his 30s, and he has this way of standing with his toes pointed in.

01:31:41.000 Oh, toes pointed in.

01:31:42.000 Why did he figure toes pointed in?

01:31:43.000 What did that allow him to do?

01:31:45.000 Create even more torsion off of the ground.

01:31:48.000 So when his toes are in, he can create even more grip and torque in those basic shapes.

01:31:54.000 He's figured out that that toe-in position allows him to be more stable and functional.

01:32:00.000 So how would you fix that, though?

01:32:01.000 What would you have him do that would correct something like that?

01:32:04.000 Well, the issue is, is he doing that because that's the only reason, only way he can move?

01:32:08.000 And boy, if he didn't have full range of motion in his hip, for example, that's the problem.

01:32:13.000 So as soon as you give...

01:32:14.000 If you teach athletes, and they're doing their skill, wait, hang on.

01:32:17.000 If you teach skills, because this messes with people's minds.

01:32:20.000 If you're a skilled athlete and you're training and doing all the drills and all the things, if I improve your range of motion, you instantaneously use it.

01:32:29.000 You'll suck it up and use it.

01:32:30.000 And I did this with some fighter's hips. 0.56

01:32:33.000 They were in guard.

01:32:34.000 I gave them, showed them how to mobilize, and I mobilized them into better positions in guard.

01:32:39.000 And literally, they ended up in a stronger position because they used it right away.

01:32:43.000 So hands in, internally rotates you and puts you into an unstable position.

01:32:47.000 What you just said, I just started thinking about it.

01:32:49.000 If you point your toes forward, it does open your hips up a little bit.

01:32:53.000 It allows you to create a little bit bigger grip.

01:32:55.000 If you stand up and see how stable you are, it's a wretched position with your feet turned out.

01:32:59.000 That's not a good athlete.

01:33:01.000 Louis Simmons, best powerlifter on the planet, coaching, he would choose athletes.

01:33:04.000 He'd be like, ugh, look how that guy's walking with his feet straight.

01:33:07.000 He's going to be a good athlete.

01:33:08.000 Wow.

01:33:09.000 And how simple is that?

01:33:09.000 Walk with your feet straight.

01:33:10.000 If you're listening to this, tomorrow, wake up and walk with your feet straight.

01:33:14.000 So any guy who has his toes or any gal who has their toes pointed forward, it's not, they can turn it out.

01:33:20.000 Yeah.

01:33:20.000 Well, sometimes.

01:33:22.000 So we go upstream.

01:33:23.000 We look at his pelvis.

01:33:24.000 If he's in a bad lower spine position, then that's the only position he can get his feet if his pelvis is overextended.

01:33:32.000 So one of the things that we've got to teach people is what do you prioritize first?

01:33:36.000 We prioritize nervous system for the reasons we talked about.

01:33:39.000 Which includes the relationship between your pelvis and your spine, which is the best position to kick in.

01:33:47.000 I was just looking at a great tennis player, and he's just completely straight up and down.

01:33:54.000 Organized, toes pointed in the net, or he slams the ball.

01:33:57.000 It's because he figured out that was the most efficient position.

01:34:01.000 So if we organize the hip, what we see is that if your trunk is disorganized, and people out there have a ton of shoulder pain, If you're rounded through your upper back, you cannot control your shoulders effectively.

01:34:12.000 You lose power, you lose position, you lose mechanics.

01:34:16.000 For example, I work with a lot of pitchers.

01:34:18.000 But that's how a lot of guys punch.

01:34:20.000 That's fine.

01:34:20.000 A lot of guys punch like that.

01:34:23.000 It's different, you think?

01:34:25.000 Glenn, pick up that mic, Glenn.

01:34:27.000 Is that on?

01:34:29.000 Yeah.

01:34:29.000 Tell me what you're talking about.

01:34:32.000 Let me just say first that punching, so fighting is not necessarily the best expression of human movement, right?

01:34:39.000 But I need to be able to go in and out of these positions.

01:34:41.000 And I can still generate force from this position, but if this is the only position I can be in, then my shoulders are going to be compromised.

01:34:48.000 Okay, so you're saying that not doing it occasionally is fine.

01:34:51.000 That's right.

01:34:51.000 It has to be.

01:34:52.000 Go ahead and swim or jump off something.

01:34:55.000 You need that capacity.

01:34:58.000 I'm not asking people to walk around like ballet dancers or deadlifters in this formal position.

01:35:03.000 That's the best way to teach the principle.

01:35:05.000 I thought you were saying was never go into that position. 0.97

01:35:07.000 No, that's ridiculous.

01:35:08.000 I need to be able to come into that position and out of that position, right?

01:35:11.000 But if I'm stuck and I have one choice, which is that position, then I've limited my capacities, I've limited my abilities, I've limited my options.

01:35:19.000 So if you jump and land and your knees come in, you can't go any lower, you can't change directions, you can't jump higher.

01:35:28.000 So when someone says a guy's pigeon-toed, oh, he's got poor genetics, that's incorrect.

01:35:32.000 I would say that that's incorrect.

01:35:34.000 So even though families will be pigeon-toed, it's really just them watching each other walk and choosing to walk? 0.57

01:35:40.000 It's the mirror neuron, it's the thing.

01:35:43.000 I never even want to consider that.

01:35:45.000 Kids walk exactly like their dads. 0.93

01:35:47.000 I always thought it was a genetic thing.

01:35:49.000 What about flat feet though?

01:35:53.000 Flat feet is a genetic condition.

01:35:54.000 Is it?

01:35:55.000 It's not.

01:35:56.000 Why is it flat?

01:35:57.000 Because my mother has it and I have it.

01:35:58.000 A lot of people have it.

01:36:00.000 I have it.

01:36:00.000 It's like the clap.

01:36:01.000 The flat.

01:36:02.000 So, here's the deal.

01:36:04.000 But I mean, I can move on the balls of my feet.

01:36:06.000 I move on the balls of my feet well.

01:36:07.000 That's not the problem.

01:36:08.000 I bet.

01:36:09.000 I've always...

01:36:09.000 I've got a hundred bucks.

01:36:11.000 I've never seen...

01:36:12.000 I've never not been able to create an arch in someone.

01:36:14.000 So how do you train an arch?

01:36:16.000 The system, the whole body, obeys these basic principles.

01:36:21.000 Right.

01:36:21.000 That when my foot's on the ground...

01:36:23.000 And I create torsion through the hip, the whole system winds up and becomes stable.

01:36:28.000 So, for example...

01:36:28.000 I see what you're saying.

01:36:29.000 You have shitty posture of the feet. 0.96

01:36:31.000 Yeah, right. 0.99

01:36:32.000 So if you squat or run and you collapse your arches, is that a win?

01:36:37.000 No, that's a fundamental breakdown.

01:36:39.000 And patterns that take long time to change.

01:36:42.000 It takes two years to turn over all the connectivity in your body, all your fascia.

01:36:45.000 Two years.

01:36:46.000 So if I screw my foot into the ground, then the mechanics, the fascia, the arch, the bony structures pick up the arch, and the whole system becomes more stable.

01:36:56.000 So if you take your middle finger, put it over your pointer finger on your right hand, And put it down.

01:37:02.000 That's your ACL in the front.

01:37:04.000 Got it?

01:37:05.000 ACL. So your ACL comes in, that's anterior cruciate ligament, attaches into your tibia.

01:37:10.000 If I externally rotate that thing, anchor down, no, it becomes stable.

01:37:15.000 Oh, externally rotated like this.

01:37:17.000 It winds up and becomes stable.

01:37:18.000 What happens when I turn your foot out?

01:37:20.000 Okay.

01:37:22.000 So if I'm like this and I actually rotate, BAM! The thing becomes tighter.

01:37:28.000 If I turn your foot out and move that, what happens to your ACL? It unwinds and becomes more slack.

01:37:34.000 If your knee comes in, what happens to your ACL? It unwinds and becomes more slack.

01:37:39.000 So the question is, what's the best position to create the most force?

01:37:43.000 And that's usually a lot more straight foot.

01:37:45.000 I have a little breathing room in there because I can move around and I'm adjusting to the universe.

01:37:49.000 But we know that when the foot starts to turn out past that, I can measure your hip function.

01:37:54.000 I can squeeze your knees in.

01:37:55.000 You can't create any torsion in that position.

01:37:57.000 And it exposes you to more injury because your mechanics start to fall apart, including the structures of your feet.

01:38:04.000 Wow.

01:38:04.000 So what do you do to get a guy like me who's had flat feet for his whole life?

01:38:08.000 How do you get me to...

01:38:10.000 High heels.

01:38:11.000 What do I think?

01:38:12.000 High heels? 0.98

01:38:12.000 What color? 0.98

01:38:14.000 Red.

01:38:14.000 You had a picture of me.

01:38:15.000 My shiny and my glittery. 0.98

01:38:17.000 You're so trashy, dude. 0.98

01:38:17.000 What do I do? 0.98

01:38:18.000 Girls don't want red roses. 1.00

01:38:19.000 I'm a dirty bitch. 1.00

01:38:20.000 If I was a chick, though, come on, seriously. 1.00

01:38:22.000 What?

01:38:23.000 Red glitter?

01:38:24.000 No, I would like you in a blonde wig, I think.

01:38:27.000 Pink lipstick and red heels.

01:38:29.000 So are there any specific exercises that develop...

01:38:34.000 Yeah!

01:38:35.000 Okay, what's the best?

01:38:36.000 Punching?

01:38:37.000 I mean like jumping and landing, screwing my feet into the ground, squatting, teaching deadlifting.

01:38:43.000 That's why it's so easy to teach these very formal movement principles under high load, and I reinforce them.

01:38:50.000 The drills that people do, so this is I think a good case.

01:38:54.000 Think about when you were in high school how many drills you did before you were actually allowed to scrimmage.

01:38:58.000 College, it gets worse.

01:39:00.000 Like you do drills, drills, drills, drills, drills, right?

01:39:02.000 And if you're lucky, you get to scrimmage.

01:39:04.000 So what that really is is practice, practice, practice, practice.

01:39:07.000 Well, let's just take the practice idea down, not did you complete the task, yes or no, but were you in the best position possible, yes or no?

01:39:15.000 Well, the coach has this discrete amount of time to get something done.

01:39:19.000 It's hard to teach the basics.

01:39:22.000 Sometimes we have to.

01:39:23.000 We still teach elbows into kids when they're blocking because we don't want to get their arms taken off.

01:39:28.000 Well, it turns out when we do air squats or squat, for example, warming up, we teach to keep the arms in because it becomes the default motor pattern.

01:39:34.000 So this is my stable position.

01:39:36.000 It's also funny that that's a dominant position in wrestling.

01:39:38.000 I mean, it's essentially double underhooks.

01:39:40.000 I mean, you're getting a guy under like this.

01:39:43.000 You can control the body clamping down like this way better than you can clamping down the arms.

01:39:45.000 And what are you doing?

01:39:46.000 You're creating external rotation, torque off of both of those things. 1.00

01:39:49.000 Instead of being up here, like if you have overhooks, that's why when a guy has double underhooks on you and you have overhooks and you still flip them, you must be a bad motherfucker. 0.98

01:39:59.000 There must be a big disparity in the grappling ability. 0.96

01:40:02.000 Well, either that kid has really got his positions. 1.00

01:40:04.000 John Jones will do that shit to people. 1.00

01:40:06.000 He'll double overhook people and then send them Sailing! 1.00

01:40:09.000 But that guy's timing is unreal. 0.98

01:40:10.000 He's insane. 0.78

01:40:11.000 So, right, so... 0.99

01:40:12.000 It's physical intelligence.

01:40:13.000 Physical intelligence.

01:40:14.000 And some of that is, you know, the train, train, train, train.

01:40:17.000 It's also his form.

01:40:18.000 He's got a very strange body.

01:40:20.000 You know, I mean, he's a very, very strong kid, but he's 6'4", you know, 230 before he begins his cut, and long as Texas. 0.99

01:40:30.000 He's long as fuck. 1.00

01:40:31.000 So he's doing shit and getting, like, leverage. 1.00

01:40:34.000 You just can't, you can't compete with that shit. 1.00

01:40:36.000 But... 1.00

01:40:36.000 It's too hard in certain positions. 1.00

01:40:38.000 Who says position before submission?

01:40:40.000 Doesn't that sound familiar?

01:40:41.000 Everybody.

01:40:41.000 What is position then?

01:40:43.000 Well, it's leverage.

01:40:44.000 It's being in the right spot.

01:40:44.000 Which is what?

01:40:45.000 Depending on where you are, it's the correct technique that's been assumed after You know, hundreds of years or decades or whatever it has been of testing and competition.

01:40:54.000 And it changes all the time.

01:40:56.000 And it matches the physiology.

01:40:57.000 It matches the best position for the body in that shape.

01:41:01.000 That's what it is.

01:41:02.000 It sort of does, but sometimes it doesn't.

01:41:04.000 Sometimes it's an awkward position, but it works to get a guy, him in a vulnerable position.

01:41:09.000 Like, there's a lot of submissions that are very odd angles.

01:41:12.000 I understand.

01:41:12.000 Like, how about, you know, like, guillotines?

01:41:14.000 Like, that's a fucking weird angle. 0.87

01:41:15.000 Okay, but how are you still creating torque there? 0.96

01:41:17.000 Yeah, but a guillotine is more powerful if your shoulder's back in a stable position, like I was saying, versus being out here all awkward.

01:41:23.000 Yeah, I guess guillotine's not a good...

01:41:24.000 You know what's a great one?

01:41:27.000 Let me give you an example.

01:41:30.000 I was thinking of clock jokes, but I'm like, no, that's actually kind of the same thing.

01:41:33.000 How about a real example from my firefighters?

01:41:36.000 We've got firefighters listening out there.

01:41:37.000 One of the dirty tasks of the firefighters is to pick people up off the ground after they've fallen off the toilet.

01:41:45.000 And one of the guys at our gym is the medical examiner for San Francisco.

01:41:49.000 So he goes around the world and picks up dead people.

01:41:51.000 That's his job.

01:41:53.000 He had a 350-pound woman die on the toilet. 1.00

01:41:56.000 She falls between the toilet and the wall.

01:41:59.000 I love it.

01:41:59.000 He's still...

01:42:00.000 So the question is, can that guy get into a perfect position to pick that woman up off the ground? 0.86

01:42:05.000 Yes or no?

01:42:06.000 No way.

01:42:07.000 But what he can do is he can optimize his positioning as he tries to deadlift that dead body up, right?

01:42:13.000 What about my first responders carrying people down the stairs?

01:42:16.000 You can't be in a good position with a stretcher down the stairs, but they know how to protect themselves.

01:42:21.000 Stay straight.

01:42:22.000 Always.

01:42:23.000 They do the best that they can because that's the positions that have been reinforced.

01:42:27.000 So the same thing happens.

01:42:28.000 You start to adopt these fundamental understanding shapes because they just become rote and they also happen to match the physiology.

01:42:37.000 Well, you know, I disagree with you, but then in practicing the techniques, now I agree with you, because there's like certain shit, like I was thinking about guillotines, but the choking arm is this arm, and essentially that's exactly where it goes.

01:42:47.000 It goes into that kind of a position. 0.78

01:42:49.000 I mean, it's an awkward, especially if you do the Denny Propagos.

01:42:51.000 Sure.

01:42:51.000 Denny Propagos loves this grip.

01:42:53.000 Jake Shields likes this grip, too, where your palms are facing outward.

01:42:57.000 So what's that allow you to do?

01:42:58.000 Create a ton of torsion.

01:43:00.000 Let me explain this to people.

01:43:01.000 If you're watching on iTunes, if you're a right-handed choker, Your right palm is facing outward and your left palm is facing inward as you do the choke.

01:43:09.000 It's a weird, odd position, but what it does is the way it sets the bone up on the neck, it's perfect. 0.98

01:43:15.000 It's like the perfect, but it's odd as fuck. 0.97

01:43:17.000 That's an odd as fuck feeling to have your hands like this in this weird position. 0.97

01:43:21.000 But if you get that, it's incredibly strong. 0.94

01:43:25.000 But I was disagreeing until I saw this.

01:43:27.000 The physiology is the same.

01:43:28.000 What Kelly is saying is if your shoulder is in a good position, then you're stronger from that position.

01:43:32.000 So if you've got a guy in a guillotine, right, and your shoulder is forward, your shoulder is rolled forward, you don't have as much squeezing power.

01:43:38.000 You don't have the same amount of leverage put into that versus If your shoulder's back, and then you get your chest over their head, right, and collapse it, and you're able to get that.

01:43:46.000 That's a more stable position.

01:43:48.000 That's a better position.

01:43:48.000 So a person with a comprehensive understanding of how the human body should move like you, when you could actually probably accelerate their ability to pick up skills.

01:43:57.000 100%.

01:43:58.000 And I'll tell you, like Forrest Griffin...

01:44:00.000 is a ninja about his own systems.

01:44:02.000 He understands, hey, I lifted heavy on this day before I trained.

01:44:06.000 I start sleeping in my bedroom.

01:44:09.000 I have to be up.

01:44:10.000 I'm going to fight at 11 o'clock.

01:44:11.000 He starts shifting his sleep patterns.

01:44:13.000 He's up at 11. He's exercising at 11. All of those things are the same language.

01:44:20.000 Can I do the basic maintenance on myself?

01:44:23.000 Can I do the basic diagnostics on myself?

01:44:25.000 How do I measure these things?

01:44:27.000 That's the embodiment we're talking about.

01:44:29.000 And what's happened in the world now for the first time is that we have the convergence of these systems.

01:44:34.000 And, like, it's all there.

01:44:35.000 It's really remarkable.

01:44:36.000 So, alright.

01:44:37.000 I have an injury.

01:44:38.000 I have a back injury.

01:44:40.000 I have a disc in, like, C6 or C7 that's bulging.

01:44:44.000 It's been way better over the last couple months because I took off with jiu-jitsu.

01:44:48.000 But all the other things that I do don't bother.

01:44:50.000 The only thing that seems to bother is jiu-jitsu.

01:44:53.000 What can I do besides trying to stand straight?

01:44:55.000 I've been doing that. 0.99

01:44:56.000 Fucking... 0.99

01:44:57.000 I'm working on my posture hardcore. 0.99

01:44:58.000 It helps.

01:44:59.000 So we get the pain out of your nerves.

01:45:01.000 So the first thing is we've got to get people out of pain.

01:45:02.000 I'm totally out of pain.

01:45:03.000 I have zero pain.

01:45:05.000 When I wake up in the morning, I'm a little stiff, but I take lacrosse balls and I bridge on lacrosse balls and I roll them.

01:45:11.000 Where did you hear that?

01:45:12.000 I found it online.

01:45:13.000 Is it you?

01:45:14.000 Is it your idea?

01:45:15.000 Was it?

01:45:15.000 Congratulations?

01:45:16.000 Or thank you, rather.

01:45:17.000 Congratulations.

01:45:18.000 I have a jet with a lacrosse ball in the back.

01:45:22.000 Listen, man.

01:45:23.000 I read about it on some fitness forum.

01:45:26.000 I don't even remember, but I didn't give credit given to you.

01:45:29.000 So thank you, because that has helped me so much. 0.88

01:45:32.000 It's painful as fuck, but I love it. 0.83

01:45:34.000 It's like a beautiful pain, because I know the relief that it's going to give me. 0.99

01:45:38.000 How do you know tissue is normal?

01:45:40.000 This is a good question.

01:45:41.000 It doesn't hurt when you roll a ball on it.

01:45:42.000 That's right, at all.

01:45:43.000 It doesn't hurt.

01:45:44.000 You start to compress my bicep, I don't freak out.

01:45:46.000 You're compressing my bicep.

01:45:48.000 It shouldn't feel like beef jerky, and it shouldn't hurt.

01:45:50.000 So if you push on a tissue and it hurts, it's not normal.

01:45:52.000 This is how I can prove that your system works.

01:45:54.000 My left side was where I got injured.

01:45:56.000 I have this weird left tweak.

01:45:58.000 And it's not serious.

01:46:00.000 Right now I have zero hand pain, nothing.

01:46:03.000 But when I get up in the morning, it's very stiff.

01:46:05.000 And sometimes when I move forward, I can feel it. 0.98

01:46:07.000 When I take the lacrosse ball and I bridge and I roll it on, I don't feel shit. 0.96

01:46:12.000 I mean, it's relaxed. 0.96

01:46:14.000 It's loose.

01:46:16.000 Everything feels like it moves good.

01:46:17.000 And I always do it right before I train.

01:46:19.000 But I always do the left side.

01:46:21.000 So the other day, I did the right side.

01:46:23.000 The right side isn't even injured.

01:46:24.000 And I was like, ah! 0.99

01:46:26.000 My right side was so fucked up. 0.99

01:46:28.000 It was more fucked up than the side that has a disc injury. 0.99

01:46:31.000 It was all knotted up and tight. 0.99

01:46:33.000 Trying to stabilize that side?

01:46:34.000 Trying to stabilize. 0.99

01:46:35.000 Trying to compensate for the left side being so fucked up. 0.99

01:46:38.000 One of the problems I have is that people have made this voodoo. 0.98

01:46:41.000 Well, your left foot is off, and so your pelvis is through the crease.

01:46:43.000 Yeah, what is that about?

01:46:44.000 It's misplaced precision. 0.99

01:46:45.000 Like, we measure all these bullshit. 1.00

01:46:47.000 Rolfers. 1.00

01:46:47.000 You ever talk to a rolfer that hits you with that? 1.00

01:46:49.000 They want to rub your ribs, straighten your toes out? 0.87

01:46:51.000 This is...

01:46:53.000 Look, I understand the connective tissue web.

01:46:55.000 All my fascia kids out there, this is a little known fact about Kelly Starrett.

01:47:00.000 I got married when I was 25 to a girl I dated in college.

01:47:03.000 We should be playing music while this is going on.

01:47:05.000 She was a rolfer.

01:47:07.000 Don't do the Hulk theme.

01:47:09.000 That's when the Hulk walks away.

01:47:10.000 I married a rolfer by accident.

01:47:12.000 Nothing wrong with Rolfing.

01:47:14.000 No, no, no.

01:47:14.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:47:14.000 The key about understanding that is that it operates on one system, and that's that connective two-shoe fascia system.

01:47:21.000 It doesn't teach you how to move, does it?

01:47:23.000 No, it does not.

01:47:23.000 Does it work on the joint capsule?

01:47:25.000 No.

01:47:25.000 Does it work on the muscle stiffness?

01:47:26.000 No.

01:47:27.000 So the reason Rolfing didn't cure squatting knee pain cancer is that it's still incomplete because it doesn't still revolve.

01:47:34.000 You have to teach people to move first, and you have to take this approach.

01:47:37.000 When you're on the ball, You're working on the soft tissue, but you're also working on the rib joints.

01:47:41.000 You're also working on the thoracic joints.

01:47:44.000 So what happens is that you're stuck stiff because your T-spine gets stiff.

01:47:48.000 That's what happens.

01:47:49.000 You start to improve that mechanics.

01:47:51.000 Your head positioning changes.

01:47:52.000 The whole system upregulates.

01:47:54.000 I have been in surgeries where they have literally, like they look at a guy's knee.

01:47:59.000 And the knee looks like a bloody cave.

01:48:02.000 Like there are stalagmites and stalactites and there are boulders in there and there's blood and there's no ACL. And the physician is like, what the hell?

01:48:09.000 They pull out rocks and it pops out and everyone laughs.

01:48:12.000 Well, it turns out that guy doesn't have knee pain.

01:48:15.000 So the issue is that you're designed to be ridden hard and put away wet.

01:48:19.000 You are designed...

01:48:20.000 When you just get a picture...

01:48:22.000 I know so many world record holders and so many world champions who have herniated discs that are asymptomatic.

01:48:27.000 They just don't hurt.

01:48:28.000 You'll recover that thing. 0.97

01:48:29.000 What you've lost is the right to be in shitty positions.

01:48:33.000 You've sort of kind of given up that right. 0.78

01:48:35.000 You've used your get-out-of-jail-free card, and now you're going to be more positional sensitive.

01:48:39.000 As you open up that thoracic spine and heal that disc, one of my friends told you...

01:48:45.000 How does it heal the disc, though?

01:48:47.000 If I just stand up straight, it'll heal my disc?

01:48:50.000 Well, the discs heal over time.

01:48:52.000 They're poorly perfused, which is a reason why you can't be inflamed all the time and run around.

01:48:57.000 You've got to set up the conditions for healing.

01:48:59.000 But theoretically, You can't regrow an ACL or a bloody bone, but you're designed to heal until you die.

01:49:06.000 So the real question is, how are you optimizing that healing situation?

01:49:10.000 I have this little formula.

01:49:12.000 Right lifestyle means you're dealing with your stress, you're getting enough sleep, and the people out here know they don't get enough sleep.

01:49:18.000 Sleep less than six hours a day, you can be 30% immune compromised, and your fasting blood glucose is up, it's elevated, you're pre-diabetic, like you had plus 30 pounds on you instantaneously.

01:49:28.000 If you have right lifestyle, sleep, nutrition, hydration, you're doing all those things, plus correct movement, you should be pain-free and continue to get better.

01:49:36.000 So we take that, our athlete Silva, right, who's 30 years old, No, he's a bit older.

01:49:41.000 Who?

01:49:41.000 Anderson?

01:49:42.000 No.

01:49:43.000 Who?

01:49:43.000 Tim?

01:49:43.000 Tim Sylvia.

01:49:44.000 Tim Sylvia.

01:49:45.000 Oh, sorry.

01:49:45.000 Tim Sylvia.

01:49:46.000 Yeah, Sylvia is in his late 30s. 0.94

01:49:48.000 Okay, so one of the things that I'm interested in is how do I extend the careers of these great athletes?

01:49:55.000 Because it takes a long time to become a good fighter.

01:49:58.000 Young kids in their 20s are genetic monsters.

01:50:01.000 They're metabolically super fit, freakishly talented and fast.

01:50:05.000 But by the time you're sort of in your 30s, you have fought a lot, you have a lot of experience, but that's when your body starts to break down.

01:50:11.000 But you're really good when you're 34. You're really good when you're 35. Why have you been fighting for 25 years?

01:50:17.000 You're a soldier, you're a Tour de France guy, you're a powerlifter.

01:50:20.000 How do I extend your career How do I optimize your positions?

01:50:24.000 Because you can do it until you physically can't do it anymore, right?

01:50:27.000 Until you decide that I'm too slow or I'm not worth the training versus taking out because my neck hurts or my back hurts.

01:50:32.000 And we're having this luck.

01:50:34.000 We're being able to extend guys' careers because we resolve their positions, we get them into these better lifestyles where they're not eating the gluten, they're drinking more water, they're sleeping better, et cetera.

01:50:43.000 A lot of MMA fighters is just damage, just damage to the body.

01:50:47.000 That's 100% true.

01:50:48.000 Like that sport is going to accumulate some trauma.

01:50:51.000 But if I know how to kick correctly, let's just say, then when I kick you, I turn the leg over, one of the things that happens is the hip ends up in a more stable position.

01:51:00.000 Let me ask you about a guy that I know that just retired recently, Shane Carwin.

01:51:05.000 Who was a great fighter, a really beautiful guy.

01:51:08.000 Just a really friendly, brilliant guy.

01:51:11.000 He was actually an engineer before he ever got into MMA. He had to retire because of back injuries.

01:51:16.000 He's got stenosis and he's started to have an impingement on his nerves and he's had a couple of operations.

01:51:23.000 And he feels that a lot of this he got during football, the heavy collisions.

01:51:27.000 So, completely.

01:51:29.000 So now he's stenotic.

01:51:30.000 And for those of you who don't know what stenosis is, it means you're extension sensitive. 0.99

01:51:34.000 If you put your butt back like a cheap stripper, not a classy stripper, but like a cheap stripper. 1.00

01:51:39.000 We don't judge on this show. 1.00

01:51:41.000 I'm not judging.

01:51:43.000 When I'm in that position, I'm the biggest stripper in the room right now. 0.88

01:51:45.000 No one's cheap.

01:51:46.000 Nothing cheap.

01:51:47.000 I'm just going to college.

01:51:49.000 So when I overextend my pelvis to the lumbar spine, what I'm doing is I'm closing off those facet joints.

01:51:55.000 I'm locking down bone on bone.

01:51:57.000 What is the facet joint?

01:51:58.000 It's the weight-bearing doorstop of the spine.

01:52:02.000 So at the bottom, is that what it is?

01:52:04.000 Well, it's in the back.

01:52:05.000 So what happens is if I take your elbow and slam it into extension over and over again, right?

01:52:09.000 Right.

01:52:10.000 Eventually, you can handle that, but after a while, boom, that starts to hurt, doesn't it?

01:52:14.000 You jam it into extension.

01:52:15.000 That's one of the problems with jiu-jitsu.

01:52:17.000 You're always getting an arm bar.

01:52:18.000 That's right.

01:52:18.000 Always getting an arm bar and you get serious arm problems.

01:52:21.000 That's right.

01:52:21.000 So it's the same thing for your back, except the problem is that your back is set up to take billions of oscillations.

01:52:27.000 So it doesn't happen overnight.

01:52:29.000 And sometimes you're gonna get dumped on your head and that's called sport.

01:52:32.000 That's that catastrophe.

01:52:33.000 Now let me ask you this though.

01:52:34.000 When you see a guy that gets a serious back injury and then goes through surgery, do you think that's a mistake?

01:52:40.000 Not always.

01:52:41.000 Not always.

01:52:42.000 No, not always.

01:52:42.000 How often is it a mistake?

01:52:44.000 Well, if the guy's moving poorly, still is moving poorly, we don't have to address the reason why he's had that problem.

01:52:49.000 It's not just catastrophic.

01:52:51.000 You just didn't, you know, get crushed one time, dumped on your head.

01:52:53.000 Like, you know, you can get dumped on your head and a herniated disc.

01:52:56.000 That's not your fault.

01:52:57.000 Right.

01:52:58.000 But the stenosis, you know, happened.

01:53:00.000 So he's saying, hey, it happened in these high collisions.

01:53:02.000 What position was his back in when he collided in these other kids?

01:53:05.000 We teach chest up to tacklers, right?

01:53:08.000 Yeah, kids can't perform some of these basic squats, and so they overextend in this shape because they don't have this language of keeping the spine straight, and they basically...

01:53:17.000 End up defaulting to this bone-on-bone position. 0.99

01:53:20.000 Okay, in all fairness, though, he's getting hit from the side by fucking gorillas. 0.99

01:53:23.000 This is not as simple as a guy having poor form. 0.99

01:53:27.000 But it's a lifetime of this.

01:53:29.000 Right.

01:53:29.000 But he's playing football.

01:53:31.000 They're just fucking slamming into each other. 0.99

01:53:33.000 I mean, that's chaos. 0.99

01:53:34.000 So position matters more.

01:53:35.000 So, I mean, I have a bunch of kids in the NFL. I agree.

01:53:39.000 It does if you can control the situation.

01:53:42.000 But sometimes you can't.

01:53:43.000 When you're a football player, you've got dudes coming at you on the side. 0.89

01:53:46.000 Do you think it's that one shot that takes them out?

01:53:48.000 Or is it the repeated shots that make sense?

01:53:50.000 I think that happens a lot, though.

01:53:52.000 You've got to take that into consideration when you're talking about 300 men who can run, you know...

01:53:56.000 They can do the hundred in, what, like four seconds?

01:53:59.000 These are giant freak athletes.

01:54:02.000 Giant freak athletes who also fracture their backs, just blocking.

01:54:07.000 What about, let's scale it down, because we see kids in high school have that stenosis.

01:54:11.000 Listen, man, you're obviously the expert in this physical movement thing, but I think you've got to take into consideration the physical trauma of the 300-pound guys running at you.

01:54:19.000 Well, I think this is what he's trying to say, is if you're having that drama in a bad position, then it's going to have higher consequences.

01:54:25.000 So, So if that same person, say, for example, understands how to squat, understands how to deadlift, understands the proper organization of the spine, and then that motor pattern is ingrained, right?

01:54:36.000 So that's just a part of their wiring.

01:54:38.000 And then they go out on the football field and they're hitting in those good positions, their chances of getting injured are a lot lower than, say, if they've developed these bad positional habits, right?

01:54:48.000 All the running overextended.

01:54:50.000 So I'm overextended.

01:54:52.000 Now every time I get hit, boom, now that's...

01:54:54.000 That's the bone-on-bone collision.

01:54:55.000 But there's also times where they get scissored.

01:54:58.000 That you can't control.

01:55:01.000 That's a lot of times how guys get really badly injured.

01:55:03.000 Yeah, and that's fighting.

01:55:04.000 That's like Bo Jackson, right?

01:55:06.000 Just stepping wrong.

01:55:07.000 You can control that, right?

01:55:08.000 You can mitigate that by being in a good position or training your body.

01:55:13.000 But there are unusual and unique moments that you can't control, which is sport.

01:55:19.000 But I'm not saying that in defense of shame.

01:55:21.000 If I grab him, oh yeah, here's the deal.

01:55:23.000 This is the key understanding. 0.99

01:55:25.000 No one is being an ass here. 0.76

01:55:27.000 Everyone's working the limits of their understanding. 0.96

01:55:29.000 No, no one's saying you are.

01:55:30.000 No, no.

01:55:31.000 Wait, I'm saying... 1.00

01:55:32.000 I don't want to be an ass. 0.92

01:55:34.000 I want to make sure that people understand what I think is that people are working at the limits of their understanding. 0.93

01:55:38.000 We have burnt athletes at the stake of performance that we didn't understand all the ramifications of.

01:55:46.000 You got the job done.

01:55:48.000 We lived on the clock.

01:55:48.000 Let me use an analogy for you.

01:55:49.000 I learned this from you.

01:55:50.000 This is one of the...

01:55:52.000 From me?

01:55:52.000 Yes.

01:55:53.000 This is one of the, swear to God, guiding forces of my life.

01:55:56.000 Don't hang tough.

01:55:57.000 Okay.

01:55:58.000 Fear factor. 0.99

01:56:00.000 This guy had to eat like a foot-long horse cock in like an hour. 0.99

01:56:04.000 Okay. 0.99

01:56:05.000 That never happened, but go ahead.

01:56:07.000 Well, hang tough.

01:56:08.000 He had to eat something.

01:56:10.000 So you, that guy's eating, and he's making jokes, and you're like, hey, bro, watch the clock.

01:56:15.000 It was like in The Best of Fear Factor 2. You're like, watch the clock, watch the clock.

01:56:18.000 You're trying to help him.

01:56:19.000 You're coaching him.

01:56:20.000 He's making jokes.

01:56:20.000 He's flirting with the girls.

01:56:22.000 And he swallows the last bite at the last second.

01:56:24.000 Mm-hmm.

01:56:25.000 And you're like, sorry, bro.

01:56:27.000 You timed out.

01:56:27.000 And the guy freaks out.

01:56:29.000 Yeah, I remember that, dude.

01:56:30.000 I was trying to tell that guy, I know what you're doing, but you can't do it.

01:56:33.000 Don't do it. 0.99

01:56:34.000 Don't fucking waste your energy talking and having fun. 0.99

01:56:37.000 I'm like, you got a lot. 0.99

01:56:38.000 I've been there before. 1.00

01:56:40.000 I've seen a lot of people eat dick. 1.00

01:56:41.000 It takes some time. 1.00

01:56:43.000 It takes some serious fucking time. 1.00

01:56:45.000 And you think you take the first couple of bites, you're like, I'm fine. 1.00

01:56:48.000 You got five minutes to eat that whole dick. 1.00

01:56:51.000 It's not that easy. 1.00

01:56:52.000 Goblin dicks. 0.99

01:56:53.000 You gotta watch the clock. 0.99

01:56:55.000 You gotta manage the details.

01:56:56.000 You also have to have chewing endurance. 0.99

01:56:58.000 That sounds so crazy, but there's shit like livers and kidneys. 0.99

01:57:01.000 Kidneys is a perfect one. 1.00

01:57:03.000 Somebody tells you, hey, I'm gonna make a bet with you.

01:57:05.000 Listen, you wanna make some money? 1.00

01:57:06.000 Tell a motherfucker he can't eat a kidney, like a cow kidney. 1.00

01:57:10.000 Tell him that he can't eat it in an hour. 1.00

01:57:12.000 Because he's not gonna fucking eat it. 0.98

01:57:14.000 Just make sure he can't have any water. 1.00

01:57:16.000 You can't wash it down with shit. 1.00

01:57:17.000 You just have to eat it. 1.00

01:57:18.000 It's not happening.

01:57:19.000 Okay?

01:57:20.000 It's not gonna happen.

01:57:21.000 It shouldn't happen.

01:57:21.000 You know how I know?

01:57:22.000 I'm an expert on that.

01:57:23.000 I know.

01:57:24.000 I know.

01:57:24.000 I've seen a lot of people.

01:57:26.000 I've seen PAs do it for a hundred bucks.

01:57:29.000 I've seen contestants do it.

01:57:30.000 You can't eat it.

01:57:31.000 It's too hard. 0.99

01:57:33.000 You're chewing the shit out of something. 0.99

01:57:34.000 It's like you're running uphill sprints with your jaw. 0.99

01:57:37.000 That's what it's like.

01:57:38.000 That's right.

01:57:38.000 You're wrestling Corellin with your jaw.

01:57:41.000 Can't train for that.

01:57:42.000 The kidney is insurmountable.

01:57:44.000 You have to control what you can control.

01:57:46.000 Right.

01:57:46.000 So you learned that from me?

01:57:50.000 Got to control the clock, bro.

01:57:52.000 So let's say that I'm teaching kids to do like a, what's like a, not a whizzer, but like a, you know.

01:57:58.000 Suplex?

01:57:58.000 Suplex, there you go.

01:58:00.000 And if I don't teach kids to get stiff and brace against that, the same way we teach our young throwers, we teach them to arch as hard as they can.

01:58:07.000 Well, the arching harder they can is me cranking on those joints over and over.

01:58:11.000 This pattern was set up from him in high school, in middle school.

01:58:15.000 Billions of reps accelerated under big loads with 300 pound guys, accelerated in the ring.

01:58:20.000 So, could we have extended his career long enough?

01:58:24.000 And more importantly, I want these fighters to finish their careers and not be disabled. 1.00

01:58:29.000 I want them to finish their careers and have some aches and pains, and hey, they tore their ACL, but they shouldn't be disabled.

01:58:34.000 The same thing with our firefighters, the same thing with our kids in the Army.

01:58:37.000 You know, in your 40s, you should still be able to train, you should still be able to pick up your kids, and what we're seeing is that that guy has rung the bell on his back, seriously, because maybe he played pro ball and had some unfavorable things.

01:58:50.000 How do we maximize his positions? 0.99

01:58:52.000 Brian, what the fuck are you putting on the TV? Buffalo penis. 1.00

01:58:55.000 Buffalo penis? 1.00

01:58:56.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:58:56.000 Oh, everyone's so happy. 1.00

01:58:59.000 Okay, stop, Brian.

01:59:00.000 Stop.

01:59:01.000 Stop. 0.99

01:59:01.000 This is goddamn Ustream, okay? 0.99

01:59:03.000 This isn't your house. 1.00

01:59:04.000 We can't just be showing that shit. 1.00

01:59:06.000 I don't even think it's legal. 1.00

01:59:08.000 Buffalo penis makes me gag all the time. 1.00

01:59:12.000 I forgot what I was going to say, you fuck. 1.00

01:59:14.000 What were we just talking about? 1.00

01:59:16.000 Where were we at?

01:59:17.000 Where did you do that?

01:59:18.000 How do we extend the careers of our best athletes?

01:59:19.000 And when they're finished, how do we do it?

01:59:21.000 So, I love...

01:59:23.000 I mean, you should be able to wrestle your whole life, right?

01:59:26.000 Oh, Jesus Christ. 0.99

01:59:27.000 Are you crazy? 1.00

01:59:28.000 Can you do the jiu-jitsu? 1.00

01:59:29.000 What, old guys don't do jiu-jitsu in Brazil?

01:59:30.000 Yeah, you do, but you've got to flow roll.

01:59:33.000 Those old dudes, they do jiu-jitsu, but it's a different thing.

01:59:36.000 You only roll with guys that know what's up.

01:59:38.000 Yeah.

01:59:39.000 You can't just...

01:59:39.000 Pick out this hungry kid.

01:59:41.000 My friend Yoshi is 63 years old, and he's a black belt under Jean-Jacques Machado, and he's very technical, but he's a little guy.

01:59:50.000 He's a Japanese man.

01:59:51.000 He's 63 years old, and he's only probably 145 pounds at the most.

01:59:55.000 He's not a big guy, and he'll find the guys to roll with.

01:59:59.000 He's smart now, but he's, you know...

02:00:00.000 Does he move really well?

02:00:03.000 He knows jujitsu very well.

02:00:04.000 I mean, John Jack Machado doesn't give out any fake black belts.

02:00:07.000 If that guy's giving you a black belt, you're legit.

02:00:09.000 So if Yoshi's a black belt, he's a real black belt. 0.55

02:00:12.000 His movements are, you know, he's just smart.

02:00:15.000 He doesn't want to tax his body.

02:00:17.000 He's 63 years old.

02:00:18.000 So when he rolls... 1.00

02:00:19.000 If the shit hit the fan and he had to choke you to sleep, he could choke you to sleep. 1.00

02:00:24.000 But he doesn't want to have to do that every day at 63 years old. 1.00

02:00:27.000 Fair enough.

02:00:28.000 He wants a flow roll.

02:00:30.000 He's lost some of the tissue tolerance.

02:00:32.000 I think.

02:00:33.000 We're in an epoch.

02:00:35.000 He's retired.

02:00:36.000 He's retired.

02:00:37.000 What is retirement age?

02:00:39.000 35 usually is typically what?

02:00:41.000 For...

02:00:42.000 What's retirement age for people?

02:00:44.000 For what athletes?

02:00:45.000 For people who work at the post office.

02:00:47.000 Is it 65 or is it 55?

02:00:48.000 Yeah, it's like 65. It used to be younger and they extended it.

02:00:52.000 Was it like 59 at one point or am I making that up?

02:00:55.000 It's going to be so bad, no.

02:00:56.000 Yeah, I think it's longer now because of people's health.

02:01:00.000 I'm talking about just people in general who retire from jobs and this guy is going in there doing jujitsu.

02:01:06.000 Physical practice, master, takes care.

02:01:09.000 But also look at some of the...

02:01:11.000 The management of training opponents is very important.

02:01:14.000 That is important.

02:01:15.000 Yeah.

02:01:16.000 Those young kids shouldn't be, you know, you can ask a lot more.

02:01:19.000 It's not that at all.

02:01:20.000 There's young kids I 100% trust.

02:01:22.000 What it's all about is not rolling with yahoos. 1.00

02:01:25.000 Not rolling with anybody who doesn't know what they're doing. 0.99

02:01:28.000 They dive on shit that doesn't really work. 0.98

02:01:30.000 They just land on your ankle or something. 0.99

02:01:31.000 Just cranking on limbs for no reason. 1.00

02:01:33.000 Grab your fucking wrist. 1.00

02:01:34.000 We call it, we have a technical term for it called hanging on the meat. 1.00

02:01:37.000 We see those kids all the time.

02:01:38.000 And they do the same thing. 0.99

02:01:39.000 They also get really excited about tapping you too, which is like, Settle the fuck down. 0.98

02:01:44.000 You're trying to tap someone too hard. 0.95

02:01:45.000 You're not in a position where you're really effectively utilizing that technique. 0.94

02:01:50.000 You're squeezing the shit out of it in a bad spot. 0.86

02:01:52.000 You're actually wasting effort. 0.94

02:01:54.000 Because all that guy has to do is survive that, and then you're done.

02:01:57.000 You're done.

02:01:59.000 All he has to do is get through this one squeeze, just count to 20, don't tap, and then dominate you.

02:02:05.000 Yeah, and flow rolling, like you said, is an art in and of itself, right?

02:02:09.000 And it's an art of trust as well, as is flow kickboxing.

02:02:13.000 You know, you know that as much as anybody.

02:02:14.000 Which is even way harder.

02:02:15.000 Way harder.

02:02:16.000 To control strikes and impact, and you see the times.

02:02:20.000 You mean you have any skills?

02:02:21.000 So I spent a lot of time in Thailand, and they don't spar...

02:02:24.000 At all, really.

02:02:25.000 No, it's all pad work.

02:02:26.000 It's all pad work.

02:02:27.000 It's all clinch work.

02:02:28.000 So like 50% of their training is clinch work, like you were saying earlier.

02:02:31.000 I mean, not a lot of people realize that.

02:02:33.000 Very underrated grapplers.

02:02:35.000 Oh, huge.

02:02:35.000 Like, I mean, most of my grappling comes from Muay Thai, and then I'll go in and wrestle Division I wrestlers, and that all applies.

02:02:43.000 The trips.

02:02:44.000 The trips.

02:02:45.000 Out of this world trips.

02:02:49.000 Yasun Klai, all those guys.

02:02:51.000 Bukau.

02:02:51.000 That guy has incredible trips.

02:02:53.000 Well, because of Bukau, they outlawed clinching in K1. Exactly. 0.91

02:02:59.000 And because of Alistair Overeem, too, they wouldn't allow the double hand.

02:03:04.000 He's so strong. 0.99

02:03:05.000 He's a fucking gigantic powerlifter, dude. 1.00

02:03:07.000 He gets a hold of that double hand. 1.00

02:03:08.000 Just boom! 0.51

02:03:10.000 Those thunder knees are coming. 0.82

02:03:11.000 With the sparring, you watch the Thai spar, no knee pads, no nothing, and they know what's up.

02:03:17.000 Yeah, they're tapping each other, man.

02:03:19.000 Yeah, and it's super relaxing.

02:03:21.000 When you can find a training partner like that, it's a beautiful thing.

02:03:24.000 You'll progress. 0.98

02:03:25.000 You'll meet at 2 o'clock and you both know that neither one is going to do anything stupid. 0.82

02:03:30.000 It's quality numbers.

02:03:31.000 You're able to get in some quality numbers.

02:03:36.000 Then you develop those instincts where you don't even know you're doing the movement until it's already over.

02:03:42.000 See, and this is what's brilliant, really, with Kelly's system.

02:03:46.000 For example, let's take the squat.

02:03:47.000 Like, if you understand some of the underlying principles of the squat, what he's talking about.

02:03:51.000 Glenn Cardova on the mic, ladies and gentlemen.

02:03:55.000 Creating torque, creating stability, right?

02:03:57.000 You see that same rules applied in jiu-jitsu or in fighting, right?

02:04:01.000 So you know when you throw a cross, you, you know, turn your foot into the ground.

02:04:06.000 Well, that...

02:04:07.000 All that is is a mechanism of stability, right?

02:04:10.000 You're just creating stability through the hips so you can transfer that force up through the ground, through your body, out through your hand.

02:04:16.000 So if you're practicing that in strength and conditioning, right, say we're practicing a split jerk or a squat or whatever it is, we're able to practice those mechanics so then when you go into your sport fighting, whatever it is, it's transferable.

02:04:30.000 All of a sudden you see it.

02:04:32.000 Even windmills.

02:04:33.000 Exactly, exactly.

02:04:34.000 But it's all the same ideas.

02:04:37.000 Now throw in the fact that these guys have cultures around massage and sleep and these weird recovery things. 0.60

02:04:45.000 And getting jerked off.

02:04:45.000 Oh, ties are big on me.

02:04:47.000 Nico Chan, Paro Paro. 1.00

02:04:48.000 They don't fuck around, dude. 1.00

02:04:50.000 So check this out. 1.00

02:04:52.000 Let's go here for a second.

02:04:53.000 One of the problems that we have with athletes who are...

02:04:58.000 In a very sympathetic state, right?

02:05:01.000 You're fighting, training, it's a very high sympathetic state.

02:05:04.000 So your sympathetic nervous system is up and going.

02:05:07.000 You're in this fight or flight kind of pounding.

02:05:09.000 We measure this with heart rate variability in our athletes.

02:05:11.000 We can put our heart rate monitor on you in the morning.

02:05:13.000 When you breathe in, your heart rate accelerates.

02:05:15.000 When you breathe out, it decelerates.

02:05:17.000 Kids who are not recovering, their heart rate stays the same.

02:05:20.000 Boom, boom, boom, they're driving.

02:05:22.000 You lay down at night, you can't turn off.

02:05:24.000 I know good coaches who've worked with NBA players, the only way that NBA player can come down after the game or from training or practice is to smoke a bowl and roll out on the foam roller.

02:05:34.000 And that really is about tricking the body into Accessing the parasympathetic nervous system.

02:05:38.000 It's not an accident.

02:05:39.000 I think some of those cultures around, physical cultures, have some of these things built in about bringing you out of that sympathetic state and bringing you into that parasympathetic state, which is about adaptation and recovery.

02:05:50.000 So that's that state where you can...

02:05:51.000 So, I mean, how weird is that, you know, getting a handjob in a tie place after you fight is really also about...

02:05:58.000 It's relaxing.

02:05:59.000 Oh, it's relaxing.

02:06:00.000 So guess what?

02:06:01.000 You start to recover.

02:06:02.000 You sleep better.

02:06:03.000 One of the things we are, how are we systematizing that?

02:06:09.000 How do we give people access to their diaphragm?

02:06:11.000 One of the things that I'm interested in right now is some of my ninja special forces guys come back from the GAN. They've been in long deployments.

02:06:20.000 If you call them ninjas one more time, you're officially Mike Goldberg.

02:06:24.000 I don't want to say who they are.

02:06:26.000 Scary guys.

02:06:27.000 Okay.

02:06:28.000 Their testosterone comes back and their testosterone is really low.

02:06:31.000 Their testosterone is like 170, which is that of like a nine-year-old man.

02:06:34.000 Man, that's high.

02:06:39.000 Coco! 0.94

02:06:41.000 He's all drained.

02:06:42.000 So if you, if these guys are caught in this sympathetic outflow state, right, they're just, you know, the dirty secret of pro sports is Ambien.

02:06:52.000 Like, that is such a dirty secret of guys getting on the bus back up from after plan, they take an Ambien, all the soldiers surviving, start sleeping, they take an Ambien, they take two Ambien, they wake up and take another Ambien.

02:07:03.000 This is how they're trying to sleep again.

02:07:06.000 So we start measuring all of this stuff, yet we're in bad position.

02:07:10.000 So if I'm overextended, which is where most of us are living, where most of us are living in this overextended position, not this uber flexed.

02:07:17.000 Your lower back is overextended, your upper back is slightly flexed.

02:07:21.000 This is like when you're sitting up in the car, when you're standing with your feet turned out, your pelvis is dumped forward a little bit.

02:07:27.000 When you are in a bad position of your spine, your body doesn't work very well.

02:07:31.000 The whole thing, just like in your bad position of the foot, you can't kick as well, you can't move as well.

02:07:35.000 Well, the same thing happens with the musculature of your trunk, so that if you're in an overextended position, your pelvic floor doesn't turn on, which means you can't create as much intra-abdominal pressure.

02:07:44.000 This is why you see overextended women exercising and they pee when they jump, right? 1.00

02:07:49.000 They do double unders and pee comes out.

02:07:51.000 When they're in that bad position.

02:07:52.000 Who are these women? 1.00

02:07:54.000 It's not pretty.

02:07:55.000 I got a website for you.

02:07:58.000 It's a genre.

02:08:03.000 Don't go to Olympicliftingprolapsevowel.com.

02:08:07.000 Don't do that.

02:08:08.000 I've been there.

02:08:08.000 Too late.

02:08:10.000 But also the same thing happens.

02:08:11.000 Your warnings are in vain.

02:08:12.000 So when you're overextended through your pelvis, your pelvic floor doesn't turn on.

02:08:16.000 When you're overextended in your rib cage, your diaphragm doesn't work very well.

02:08:20.000 And so you start doing this breathing in their neck.

02:08:22.000 And so I don't have good access to your diaphragm control because it's just in a bad position.

02:08:28.000 So you start making VO2 compromises, right?

02:08:30.000 You're not putting out the same VO2. Your breathing is inefficient.

02:08:34.000 That diaphragm has attachments onto your psoas.

02:08:36.000 Like the whole system starts to get away.

02:08:38.000 Why?

02:08:38.000 Because you're just in a bad position.

02:08:40.000 So in that sense, yeah, that's really interesting.

02:08:43.000 Look at where the Muay Thai guys take the shot. 1.00

02:08:45.000 Are they here?

02:08:46.000 No, they're really straight up and down, right?

02:08:48.000 Breathing out, managing that breathing, because that clinch is so aerobic.

02:08:53.000 In that sense, it's actually very important to never overextend yourself.

02:08:58.000 It's important, especially during training, to extend yourself to the brink, never overextend yourself, never get yourself in a position where you're using shitty form.

02:09:06.000 Well, that's going to happen automatically.

02:09:08.000 It happens because it's called training. 0.98

02:09:10.000 And your coach is like, that was shitty.

02:09:11.000 It happens because you're improving. 0.92

02:09:14.000 That's right.

02:09:14.000 The practice of that.

02:09:16.000 Learning with your left hand, you made a ton of errors.

02:09:18.000 You integrate.

02:09:20.000 You're making major feedback.

02:09:21.000 How do we give you more feedback?

02:09:22.000 I want you to make errors.

02:09:23.000 If you do it more than once, it's practice.

02:09:27.000 That's the difference.

02:09:29.000 What's up, brother?

02:09:30.000 Yeah, sure.

02:09:30.000 Whatever you got there.

02:09:31.000 You got more of those ciders? 0.98

02:09:34.000 Those are goddamn awesome. 0.99

02:09:35.000 I brought you a bottle of champagne, too. 0.98

02:09:36.000 Oh, thank you.

02:09:37.000 That's what we drink.

02:09:37.000 I had a cider in England and in Ireland.

02:09:40.000 Those are the only times I've ever had cider.

02:09:41.000 They love it over there, man.

02:09:43.000 They say, you want a cider?

02:09:44.000 I'm like, I thought we were drinking. 1.00

02:09:45.000 And then they give you a cider, and you're like, oh, shit. 1.00

02:09:48.000 Shit! 1.00

02:09:48.000 This is delicious! 1.00

02:09:49.000 And it gets you fucked up! 1.00

02:09:51.000 You're still thinking of Zima. 1.00

02:09:52.000 That gave you the bad cider rap.

02:09:54.000 Let me tell you something. 0.99

02:09:55.000 I fucking drank Zima until the day they pulled it out of bars. 1.00

02:09:57.000 I didn't give a fuck. 1.00

02:09:59.000 I remember I was at the Improv and John Henson. 0.99

02:10:02.000 Remember John Henson from TalkSoup?

02:10:04.000 He was like, I can't believe you're drinking Zima. 0.99

02:10:06.000 I was like, God damn it, John Henson. 1.00

02:10:07.000 I enjoy a fucking Zima. 1.00

02:10:08.000 I'm going to drink this Zima. 1.00

02:10:10.000 I'm going to do it with pride.

02:10:11.000 I'm not scared.

02:10:12.000 The bottle was like a little bottle of Miami Vice.

02:10:14.000 It was Art Deco.

02:10:16.000 It had a black label.

02:10:18.000 I know, I'm telling you.

02:10:20.000 That's what gave it an ad.

02:10:21.000 Remember that ad?

02:10:21.000 I'll have a Zement to please, I believe.

02:10:23.000 I didn't give a fuck about that ad. 1.00

02:10:25.000 That shit tastes delicious. 1.00

02:10:27.000 Ad's don't confuse me, okay? 1.00

02:10:29.000 That's why I get mad when people get shitty with advertisers.

02:10:33.000 Listen, man, that is one of the easiest con games of all time. 0.92

02:10:36.000 That's three-card money for blind people, alright? 0.99

02:10:39.000 And you're getting mad?

02:10:40.000 You're getting mad at advertisers?

02:10:42.000 How dare you?

02:10:43.000 They are weeding out sheep. 1.00

02:10:44.000 If you can't figure out that if you buy that car, that girl will not fuck you. 1.00

02:10:48.000 If you can't figure that out... 1.00

02:10:50.000 Then you deserve to lose every penny your stupid ass figured out how to squirrel away. 1.00

02:10:54.000 That's Macklemore popping tags. 1.00

02:10:56.000 It's true, right?

02:10:56.000 You've never seen a fat person on a McDonald's commercial.

02:10:58.000 That's what I'm talking about, dog!

02:11:00.000 You don't get excited about that car thinking this girl's coming. 0.99

02:11:03.000 You know, you brought up something that we're starting to see is that culturally there's this shift going on where some of the big corporations Some of the best thinkers are saying, hey, stop blaming the corporations.

02:11:13.000 It's not McDonald's fault. 0.99

02:11:14.000 It's your fucking fault. 1.00

02:11:15.000 We don't train kids. 1.00

02:11:16.000 It certainly is that.

02:11:17.000 And it is also, look, there's nothing wrong with having corporations, even if the corporations are bullshitting people in that way, with advertising, rather, not lying.

02:11:27.000 But it's also, it's us that are not accepting responsibility for our own diet and getting together and figuring out the same amount of time you spend pursuing your career.

02:11:38.000 You should spend that amount of time pursuing your diet.

02:11:40.000 Truth.

02:11:41.000 100%.

02:11:42.000 Consider what you're taking into your body.

02:11:44.000 Make sure you're getting the proper vitamins.

02:11:46.000 How many vitamins are you getting in a day?

02:11:49.000 How much phytonutrients?

02:11:50.000 How much water are you drinking?

02:11:52.000 How much sleep are you getting? 1.00

02:11:53.000 And if you think about all the other shit in your life, like your career and your fucking school and Starcraft, you think about all that shit, but you don't think about your body, you're fucking up. 1.00

02:12:02.000 But people are taking responsibility for nutrition. 1.00

02:12:07.000 More so now than ever.

02:12:08.000 You see it everywhere.

02:12:10.000 Documentaries, books, whatever.

02:12:11.000 But what hasn't been done, this is what I've really taken from Kelly, is he's put movement on the table.

02:12:16.000 Movement.

02:12:16.000 Position as a skill.

02:12:18.000 What?

02:12:18.000 Eating as a skill?

02:12:19.000 Sleeping as a skill as a skill?

02:12:19.000 You teach your kids how to sleep, right?

02:12:21.000 Didn't you?

02:12:21.000 You gotta cry it out, you gotta sleep.

02:12:23.000 No, I drug them. 1.00

02:12:24.000 They fucking scream and shit. 1.00

02:12:25.000 You gotta drug them. 1.00

02:12:26.000 Stun dart?

02:12:27.000 That's what we do.

02:12:27.000 Stun dart.

02:12:28.000 Like you were saying earlier, Joe, like, oh, I mess around with a crossbow and I feel better.

02:12:32.000 Like, everybody should know that.

02:12:33.000 But everybody knows now, like, oh, I should eat real food as opposed to industrialized food, right?

02:12:38.000 That's just, like, common knowledge.

02:12:39.000 It's becoming common knowledge, you know what I mean?

02:12:42.000 It's not common knowledge that you should roll around a lacrosse ball.

02:12:45.000 Or that I should understand that I should sit or stand or be in these better positions.

02:12:50.000 They don't get that.

02:12:52.000 They're like, oh, I'm in pain.

02:12:53.000 They wait until something's wrong and then they go to the doctor and they're like, oh, you know, do this.

02:12:57.000 Dude, Musashi's my whole right arm.

02:13:03.000 That's Musashi versus a tiger.

02:13:05.000 When I was a kid, man, the Book of Five Rings was one of the most important things I ever read. 0.99

02:13:09.000 I remember I was reading it and I was like, in my mind, I was like, this guy fought with fucking swords. 0.98

02:13:15.000 Listen to him. 1.00

02:13:16.000 He learned some shit. 1.00

02:13:18.000 That's what I mean. 1.00

02:13:19.000 Like, was he jerking off when he was like, hey, organize yourself. 0.98

02:13:22.000 Be in a combat stance all the time.

02:13:24.000 If you took Musashi, you're a fighter, and you take Musashi's word at it, is your combat stance your everyday stance?

02:13:29.000 Is that how you're standing when you cook eggs, yes or no?

02:13:32.000 For me, no.

02:13:33.000 I cook eggs naked, with a heart on.

02:13:36.000 That's a good position.

02:13:37.000 No, no, no, that's a good position.

02:13:38.000 I lean back.

02:13:40.000 I cook eggs with one hand in my ear like I'm picking my ears.

02:13:43.000 It's a terrible combat stance. 1.00

02:13:47.000 Musashi was a bad motherfucker. 0.98

02:13:48.000 I mean, he wrote a lot of amazing things, and one of the most amazing things he wrote was the need for balance, the need for art, the need for philosophy, the need for calligraphy. 1.00

02:13:59.000 Dude, he carved the oar on the way to kick Kojira's ass. 1.00

02:14:02.000 Exactly. 0.99

02:14:02.000 But what you're saying is it sort of balances that. 0.99

02:14:05.000 It makes sense.

02:14:06.000 Because what you're saying is that you need to balance your body out.

02:14:10.000 And what he's saying is your body is just a part of your whole.

02:14:13.000 You need to balance the whole thing out.

02:14:15.000 Your mind, your personality, everything.

02:14:18.000 All of it needs balance in order to perform at your optimum level.

02:14:22.000 Exactly.

02:14:23.000 So movement is the missing piece, right?

02:14:24.000 So like nutrition, sleep, people get it.

02:14:27.000 People understand they need to be hydrated.

02:14:28.000 They understand they need to exercise.

02:14:30.000 But do they understand what those good positions are?

02:14:33.000 Do they understand what, like, if I have knee pain, it's not just out of nowhere.

02:14:39.000 It's because I gave myself that knee pain through bad mechanics and bad movement, right?

02:14:43.000 Unless I have pathology or catastrophe, right?

02:14:45.000 Unless you have, yeah.

02:14:46.000 Pathology or catastrophe.

02:14:47.000 But take Kujuro.

02:14:48.000 He was probably a better swordsman than, right?

02:14:51.000 He fought with a longsword.

02:14:52.000 He understood how the longsword met.

02:14:53.000 I use this analogy for our really tall athletes.

02:14:56.000 I'm like, quit fighting or quit moving like a little short guy.

02:14:58.000 You're not.

02:14:58.000 You're 6'5", so be like a longsword.

02:15:01.000 But he wasn't integrated.

02:15:03.000 He didn't bring mindfulness to all the things.

02:15:04.000 Why are you practicing this training?

02:15:06.000 Why are you lifting weights?

02:15:07.000 Why are you fighting?

02:15:08.000 The whole point of this, ultimately, don't barf, Self-actualization.

02:15:12.000 That's what it's about.

02:15:13.000 Yeah.

02:15:13.000 No, it's not a barf word.

02:15:15.000 It's a word that's been co-opted by people who are barf-worthy.

02:15:18.000 Yeah.

02:15:19.000 That's the problem.

02:15:20.000 It's like people who say spiritual.

02:15:21.000 I'm not religious, but I'm spiritual.

02:15:24.000 Well, you know what that means to me?

02:15:25.000 Wrong! 0.86

02:15:27.000 Run! 0.68

02:15:27.000 That's what it means. 0.68

02:15:28.000 Run! 1.00

02:15:29.000 Because you're about to get in a stupid fucking conversation about crystals. 1.00

02:15:33.000 Someone's going to tell you about, you know, experiences they've had. 1.00

02:15:37.000 My grandmother was there with me.

02:15:38.000 I felt her. 1.00

02:15:39.000 Shut your mouth. 1.00

02:15:40.000 You don't even know what you're saying. 0.99

02:15:41.000 Anytime there's a girl named Crystal in them, I'm usually...

02:15:44.000 Crystals.

02:15:44.000 Those crystals.

02:15:45.000 They pretend that they give you power. 1.00

02:15:48.000 God damn it. 0.99

02:15:49.000 Totally. 0.99

02:15:50.000 This whole conversation and literally the people you're bringing on is saying, what is the optimized self?

02:15:56.000 How much more capacity do I have?

02:15:58.000 The metaphor for saying the training, what if I didn't ever fight or express this, but I should still be a skilled human when I pick up my kids or when I'm cooking or when I'm lifting my groceries?

02:16:09.000 It's the same thing.

02:16:10.000 In physio, we have this test.

02:16:12.000 It's called the timed up and go.

02:16:14.000 You'll like this, the tug test, right?

02:16:16.000 Why are you pointing at him?

02:16:18.000 No, come on. 0.98

02:16:19.000 Because he keeps pulling up the horse cock on the TV. You do it again, you fuck it. 1.00

02:16:24.000 If you get out of a chair, you walk three meters, you turn around, you sit back in the chair. 1.00

02:16:30.000 That's the test.

02:16:31.000 If you can do it fast, you're less likely to fall and kill yourself.

02:16:33.000 They can measure that.

02:16:35.000 There's a famous hammer thrower named Litvinov who had a squat workout he did on Mondays.

02:16:40.000 He would front squat 200 kilos for 7 reps and then run 400 meters.

02:16:44.000 Those things are scaled.

02:16:46.000 What we have to do, it's the same thing, getting out of a chair, walking, front squatting, running, same.

02:16:51.000 Our thinking has to be integrated enough.

02:16:54.000 This is Buckminster Fuller talking about integrated systems, right?

02:16:57.000 Mutual economy systems.

02:16:58.000 It has to scale for my kids.

02:16:59.000 What you need to eat is the same thing your kids need to eat.

02:17:01.000 How you take care of your body is while your kids take care of their body. 1.00

02:17:04.000 It has to scale up and down.

02:17:05.000 I have to be integrated in all those systems, and if I don't, No wonder we see so much wasted effort with all the kind of BS problems we're dealing with.

02:17:13.000 Let's take that off the table.

02:17:14.000 We have a chance to get it right this time.

02:17:16.000 I'm serious.

02:17:16.000 I mean, this is the message of hope.

02:17:18.000 But literally, you should be empowered because there are people talking about it and putting the information out for free.

02:17:24.000 And if you don't understand how it's not impacting the quality of your life, you're leaving it on the table.

02:17:29.000 No, I think you're making a lot of sense, and I think this is the first time where this kind of information has been so freely distributable.

02:17:35.000 Using the internet, using Twitter, using YouTube videos, I know you put out a shitload of videos, right?

02:17:40.000 How many videos did you put out?

02:17:41.000 It's like 560. Yeah, and you just slammed them out there, and people...

02:17:45.000 Eventually took notice.

02:17:46.000 I mean, that's just how it goes when you have quality ideas. 0.99

02:17:50.000 And that's the beautiful thing about this world is that all Kelly Star needs is one dude to find that video and say, hey man, check this shit out. 0.99

02:17:59.000 And that dude sends it to another dude and he goes, man, I've been having a problem just like this. 1.00

02:18:02.000 And hey, send that shit to Lenny. 1.00

02:18:04.000 And then boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 1.00

02:18:05.000 And the next thing you know, it just takes off like it's on fire.

02:18:08.000 You had Baz on not too long ago?

02:18:10.000 Boss Rootin, you mean?

02:18:11.000 Yeah, Boss Rootin yesterday, sir.

02:18:11.000 Don't you call him Baz.

02:18:13.000 He'll fucking find you and liver kick you. 1.00

02:18:15.000 He will live or kick the shit out of you. 1.00

02:18:17.000 His left side is still good. 1.00

02:18:18.000 He's a guy you could talk to because Boss has had some serious neurological issues.

02:18:22.000 And guess what?

02:18:22.000 He started using my stuff on his neck and he started sleeping better.

02:18:25.000 I bet he did.

02:18:26.000 He figured it out.

02:18:26.000 His right arm, he was talking about it on the podcast, is like his wrist all the way up.

02:18:32.000 He lost amazing amounts of muscle tissue, massive atrophy.

02:18:37.000 Pinching of the nerves, and he's had two neck surgeries so far.

02:18:41.000 And you know what man, for a dude like that, like former UFC heavyweight champion, if a guy's an accountant and his arm turns into a noodle, you know, it freaks him out.

02:18:48.000 But a guy like Bas Rutten...

02:18:50.000 A guy, a heavyweight guy that could do a one-arm pull-up.

02:18:53.000 You know, that's serious.

02:18:54.000 Oh, he was an animal.

02:18:55.000 That video of him, I mean, he's an animal. 0.56

02:18:57.000 Animal.

02:18:58.000 Animal. 0.99

02:18:58.000 When he fucked up Koshaka for the title, when he fucked up TK, just teed off on him. 0.99

02:19:05.000 Bas Rutten was like one of the best strikers in that day.

02:19:08.000 He was one of the first guys to really incorporate like a high-level athletic striking style.

02:19:13.000 Totally.

02:19:13.000 He was the pre-Cro Cop.

02:19:15.000 Yeah.

02:19:15.000 But even more mean.

02:19:17.000 He was a mean motherfucker. 1.00

02:19:17.000 Dude, you've ever been slapped to the ear? 1.00

02:19:19.000 And it was also the thing about Boss, he could take it.

02:19:22.000 Boss took it with Kevin Randleman.

02:19:24.000 He won the title off his back.

02:19:26.000 Off his back.

02:19:26.000 Yeah, the first time judges got it right.

02:19:28.000 And people say, you know, hey, he doesn't deserve that.

02:19:31.000 Like, Gene LaBelle called me up, right? 1.00

02:19:32.000 That's the biggest piece of bullshit I ever seen in my life. 0.99

02:19:37.000 But Gene LaBelle is a grappler and he's a judo champion. 1.00

02:19:40.000 But at the same time, was Randleman trying to advance position?

02:19:42.000 No.

02:19:43.000 Was he throwing strikes?

02:19:44.000 Was he throwing strikes?

02:19:45.000 No.

02:19:46.000 I mean, I mean... 0.99

02:19:47.000 Boss Rutten was fucking him up from his back. 0.98

02:19:49.000 Oh, downward elbows. 0.99

02:19:50.000 And he was trying to advance position.

02:19:52.000 He's trying to sweep.

02:19:53.000 He's trying to get up.

02:19:54.000 Randleman was just using his superior wrestling to keep him on the ground.

02:19:57.000 And he took it.

02:19:57.000 He took a lot of shots.

02:19:59.000 A lot of people didn't...

02:20:00.000 Here's the rub, though.

02:20:02.000 He did not want to be there.

02:20:03.000 And that's why a lot of people think that Randleman won that fight. 0.98

02:20:06.000 It's because Randleman put him where he wanted to every single fucking time. 0.95

02:20:09.000 He just was unable to do anything other than keep him there, and Boss was throwing these strikes off the bottom. 0.97

02:20:13.000 The question is, how effective were those strikes, and what dictated the fight more?

02:20:19.000 Honestly, I say Randleman's wrestling dictated the fight more because he took him down whenever he wanted to.

02:20:23.000 And he held him down whenever he wanted to. 0.96

02:20:26.000 Boss fucked him up from the bottom, but he only fucked him up from the bottom because Randleman got tired. 0.99

02:20:30.000 See, and this is where I think that judges need to start taking into consideration damage inflicted. 0.99

02:20:34.000 Like, you look at it, you need to be able to assess...

02:20:37.000 I totally agree.

02:20:38.000 You know what I mean?

02:20:38.000 Like, you look at a guy...

02:20:39.000 What was the fight?

02:20:40.000 Like, Campman Sanchez, for example...

02:20:43.000 Where it was a close fight, but you look at both fighters, and Cantman looked pretty clean.

02:20:48.000 You know, they had just been in a war, but Diego looked like Elephant Man.

02:20:51.000 He looked like he had fought a dude with a machete. 1.00

02:20:52.000 Not that Diego's a bad fighter, the guy's a fucking beast, obviously. 0.99

02:20:56.000 But, I mean, the point is, you gotta be able to take into account the amount of damage done. 0.99

02:21:01.000 Unquestionably.

02:21:02.000 Even if the guy's on the bottom, like, you see it sometimes.

02:21:04.000 Right.

02:21:05.000 You say it all the time.

02:21:07.000 Guy's going for submissions.

02:21:08.000 Who's attacking who?

02:21:09.000 The guy on the bottom is attacking.

02:21:11.000 Yeah, and in that sense, Boss Rutten clearly won.

02:21:14.000 Exactly.

02:21:14.000 No doubt about it.

02:21:15.000 And I agree with that.

02:21:17.000 I think it has to be sort of an accumulative thing, and I also think we should take into account more what happens at the end of the fight. 0.99

02:21:24.000 This is going to sound stupid. 0.97

02:21:25.000 This is how Muay Thai is judged. 1.00

02:21:27.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.99

02:21:28.000 In Thailand, they don't even judge the first two rounds. 0.99

02:21:33.000 And people who have been to Thailand and understand Muay Thai know that they play music during the fight.

02:21:38.000 Yes, exactly.

02:21:40.000 So as the fight progresses, that tempo increases.

02:21:43.000 Yes.

02:21:43.000 And the idea is that as the tempo increases, they're going to increase the tempo of the fight.

02:21:47.000 They're going to fight harder.

02:21:48.000 And that's the tradition.

02:21:49.000 It's also based around betting.

02:21:50.000 Yeah, exactly right.

02:21:52.000 But they don't even start judging the fight.

02:21:54.000 And granted, the judging is pretty corrupt and not balanced.

02:21:57.000 But the point is, they don't even start judging until the third round.

02:22:00.000 So these guys have fought for six minutes already.

02:22:03.000 And the fight doesn't even start according to the judges until the third round.

02:22:08.000 And then the fifth, so every subsequent round is judged higher.

02:22:12.000 And that's why it can't just ever be about who's the best physical specimen, whose training is the most complete.

02:22:18.000 This is why Rocky beat...

02:22:20.000 It's will.

02:22:20.000 Right?

02:22:21.000 It's will.

02:22:21.000 And that's why competition keeps us in, especially fighting, keeps us in.

02:22:24.000 Because what you're really seeing is, let's get to the heart of the human spirit.

02:22:27.000 More importantly, how do we take all the other BS off the table?

02:22:30.000 Because if you're out, because of your knee, your back, you can't express...

02:22:32.000 Well, we all know that one guy that's like super talented in the gym, but can't put it together when he fights.

02:22:38.000 There's certain guys...

02:22:38.000 Incomplete.

02:22:39.000 Yeah, right.

02:22:40.000 I totally agree.

02:22:40.000 There's certain guys that in the gym, they're the most frightening people on earth, and then something happens to them when they compete and they fall apart.

02:22:47.000 It's really strange.

02:22:49.000 I know some guys.

02:22:50.000 We all know some guys. 0.99

02:22:51.000 Yeah, you all know that guy that just kicks the shit out of them. 0.99

02:22:52.000 Everybody knows some guys. 0.99

02:22:53.000 And we know some guys the other way as well. 0.98

02:22:56.000 We're guys that aren't physically talented, but they're just fucking ferocious. 0.99

02:22:59.000 And they find a way to win, and you're like, this motherfucker is fighting above his head, where everybody's fighting 10-20% below their capacity. 0.99

02:23:06.000 It's like his expectations have been lowered so much by his own physicality that he goes in there and says, I don't give a fuck, I'm gonna fucking fight with what I've got. 1.00

02:23:14.000 Whereas everybody else is like, don't fuck up, don't make a mistake. 0.99

02:23:17.000 It's almost like he benefits from being the underdog. 0.99

02:23:21.000 Yeah, I would say that.

02:23:22.000 There's less pressure on the underdog.

02:23:23.000 All the fighters say that.

02:23:25.000 They're like, I'd prefer to be an underdog.

02:23:26.000 That's legit.

02:23:27.000 All the pressure is on the guy that's expected to win.

02:23:30.000 You're like, dude, all I got is show up.

02:23:31.000 I'm not going to disappoint anybody if I lose because everybody expects I'm going to lose.

02:23:34.000 And that's a subject that's been covered.

02:23:37.000 Psychological management.

02:23:38.000 Totally.

02:23:38.000 It's been covered much more than your ideas, which are physical movement.

02:23:42.000 Physical movement hasn't been discovered or really tuned on the same level.

02:23:49.000 I think it has been discovered.

02:23:51.000 I shouldn't say discovered.

02:23:52.000 I mean, more like adopted.

02:23:54.000 People don't understand that how they squat will have a direct effect on how they punch.

02:24:00.000 People haven't connected those dots.

02:24:02.000 What Kelly was trying to say earlier about making the connection between strength and conditioning and fighting, for example, is that if I understand what the athlete needs to do when he's squatting, Then I don't need to be a fighting coach to know that he's going to lose power when he punches.

02:24:16.000 So I can watch you squat and I can tell already based on how you're squatting. 0.52

02:24:20.000 Say your knee is caving in and your ankle is collapsing and you have a shitty squat, right? 0.52

02:24:26.000 Well, I can tell right away that that's your motor power. 0.83

02:24:29.000 That's your default movement, right?

02:24:31.000 Yeah.

02:24:31.000 So if you take that movement and you transplant that into a fighter, a guy that's throwing a punch, Well, I can deduce that that's going to be the same motor pattern.

02:24:40.000 So it's easier to fix that movement pattern when you're squatting.

02:24:44.000 Like, okay, let's get you to understand the correct mechanics of the body while you're moving in a controlled environment.

02:24:50.000 And then hopefully over time that becomes ingrained.

02:24:53.000 And then when you throw a punch, then it's like they start to make the connection. 1.00

02:24:59.000 They're like, oh shit, you know, like. 0.99

02:25:00.000 I tore my ACL because I was squatting with my foot out and my knee was caving in. 0.99

02:25:06.000 That was my brain.

02:25:08.000 When I needed to be in that position, my brain was like, this is your position.

02:25:12.000 This is where you need to be.

02:25:13.000 Does that make sense?

02:25:14.000 It has to scale.

02:25:16.000 So if we look at the science of chronic pain, for example, The pain pathway, and this is important for athletes who are in chronic pain, especially people who are engaged in high contact sports, these bad positions get mapped with the movement pathway.

02:25:30.000 So your brain starts to think, even if the pain stimulus isn't there, your brain starts to think, ah, you're moving this way.

02:25:36.000 That's been painful for the last six months or the last year.

02:25:38.000 I know it's going to cause pain.

02:25:39.000 So if I give you a brand new motor pathway in your brain, boom, I get this clean motor pathway.

02:25:45.000 I'm able to get athletes out of painful positions.

02:25:48.000 That's like, I mean, that's check yonder thinking right there.

02:25:51.000 I wanted to ask you about two things.

02:25:53.000 We've got to get to gluten before we end this thing.

02:25:55.000 And the other one is head trauma.

02:25:57.000 You were talking about how the body has the ability to heal itself, but it seems like it doesn't with head trauma.

02:26:03.000 Is that the case?

02:26:03.000 Head trauma is super gnarly.

02:26:05.000 I think what MMA has done for decreasing head trauma for boxing, I don't want people to understand, it's so much better.

02:26:14.000 I don't know if that's true.

02:26:15.000 Is that really not true?

02:26:16.000 Look, I support MMA, obviously, more than anybody, but I think that that's actually been disproven.

02:26:21.000 I think that there's concerns.

02:26:23.000 Impact is impact.

02:26:24.000 Impact is impact.

02:26:25.000 It doesn't really...

02:26:26.000 There's more possibilities in MMA to defend yourself than boxing, but impact is impact.

02:26:33.000 And we have to mitigate that.

02:26:34.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:26:35.000 So if we look at leaky brain and the inflammatory response and the quality of your tissues, how do I optimize those things?

02:26:42.000 Can I change that?

02:26:44.000 Can I limit the damage?

02:26:47.000 You know, one of our friends, his name's John Wellborn, played in the NFL for a bunch of years, part of that big brain study, and they basically went in, looked at his brain, afterwards, and they're like, you played left tackle, you can play in the NFL for 10 years, we can tell by the head trauma that you have.

02:27:02.000 They took us tests.

02:27:03.000 And he was like 99th percentile in analytics and he was maybe 10th percentile in emotional IQ because of the brain trauma. 0.98

02:27:12.000 Oh no, a big strong dude with shitty emotional skills. 0.98

02:27:15.000 Weird. 0.99

02:27:15.000 Well, we look at some of the NFLers guys, these head trauma guys. 0.99

02:27:19.000 Boxers as well.

02:27:20.000 Boxers.

02:27:20.000 So anterior pituitary gets damaged too in there.

02:27:23.000 It's not just the brain that gets rattled.

02:27:26.000 So suddenly I throw off the neuroendocrine axis.

02:27:28.000 You're not making HGH. You're not making gonadotropin.

02:27:30.000 You're not making testosterone.

02:27:32.000 You're not making sense.

02:27:33.000 Your tissues start to fall apart.

02:27:35.000 You start to lose your sense of self-identity.

02:27:41.000 So can you optimize that?

02:27:43.000 Well, you know, are there mouth guards that change some of the force?

02:27:47.000 We're working with the University of Texas right now on looking at concussions with mouth guards.

02:27:51.000 Good luck with that if you get crow-copped. 0.99

02:27:52.000 That shin to the dome doesn't give a fuck what kind of mouthpiece you're wearing. 0.99

02:27:57.000 It's accumulation of blows. 0.99

02:27:58.000 But how many...

02:27:59.000 Well, it's also, you know, we're seeing this higher impact of blows when it comes to kicks.

02:28:04.000 And that has to be taken into consideration as well.

02:28:06.000 There's some things that are happening right now with wheel kicks, with Vitor...

02:28:10.000 With Edson Barbosa.

02:28:11.000 Edson Barbosa started it off.

02:28:13.000 Terry Adam, right? 0.98

02:28:13.000 Yeah, he knocked out Terry Adam, and then it was Uriah Hall, and then everybody's like, what the fuck is going on? 0.98

02:28:19.000 And then Vitor, and everybody's like, what the fuck? 0.99

02:28:21.000 And then, goddamn Junior Dos Santos, the first time he's ever thrown in a fight, he knocks out Mark fucking Hunt. 1.00

02:28:27.000 So Bruce Lee was right. 1.00

02:28:29.000 Well, that technique is a motherfucker. 1.00

02:28:31.000 So why, when your pants are up in my kitchen, I stay away from you. 1.00

02:28:34.000 The amount of force you could put on the end of that heel bone is insane.

02:28:39.000 And what's awesome is it's a half beat strike.

02:28:42.000 Meaning that the time it takes for the person to turn actually gives a flinch response. 0.99

02:28:47.000 Where some guy's like, oh shit! 0.99

02:28:49.000 He doesn't know what it is. 0.99

02:28:51.000 He doesn't think it's a kick.

02:28:52.000 And what a perfect time. 1.00

02:28:53.000 If you're a young guy training MMA, practice this shit. 1.00

02:28:56.000 Because people aren't used to it. 1.00

02:28:57.000 This is the thing.

02:28:58.000 They're trained...

02:29:00.000 To an MMA. It's been...

02:29:04.000 Now guys are training pretty conventional.

02:29:06.000 That's why you get a guy like Pettis.

02:29:08.000 Or you get a guy like Vitor and Dos Santos.

02:29:11.000 Those guys, I guarantee you...

02:29:12.000 That's not even their background!

02:29:14.000 They don't even throw kicks!

02:29:15.000 Vitor throws so few kicks, and all of a sudden he's got two head kick knockouts in a row.

02:29:20.000 It's fantastic.

02:29:21.000 So you have this thing that's a disaster, hard kick to head.

02:29:25.000 What are you going to do about it?

02:29:26.000 So you're throwing, hey, I'm going to be an MMA fighter.

02:29:28.000 I'm going to try to make a life as a professional fighter.

02:29:31.000 I'm going to pay a price physically. 0.98

02:29:32.000 I'm going to knock out a whole bunch.

02:29:34.000 Vitor really supports your ideas, man.

02:29:36.000 I've got to tell you that. 0.98

02:29:37.000 Because Vitor is a fucking tremendous athlete. 0.99

02:29:40.000 And he always has, man. 1.00

02:29:41.000 He moves so well in every form and look how quickly he's picking up this wheel kick shit. 0.99

02:29:47.000 That's right. 0.97

02:29:47.000 One of our definitions of best athlete is who's the kid who can pick up the new skill the fastest? 0.97

02:29:53.000 How fast can you learn a new skill?

02:29:55.000 I mean, you probably, you know, you see those kids that, you know, could just be like, you show up, they're like the hobby sport kid, and all of a sudden they're back flipping off the trampoline, and then they're better at you, your sport, you know, that, you know, so how do you create the athleticism?

02:30:07.000 But also, I think one of the things that we're talking about with the gluten is how do you measure lifestyle?

02:30:13.000 How do you measure nutrition?

02:30:16.000 Measure it by your T-cell count.

02:30:18.000 Can you optimize those things?

02:30:20.000 Can you optimize the healing response from being knocked out?

02:30:25.000 We have all this amazing supplementary medicine.

02:30:29.000 A lot of guys go on the gear because they need to go on the gear, should go on the gear in their 40s when they're starting to break down between them and their physician.

02:30:37.000 Are you in favor of that about testosterone replacement therapy amongst combat athletes?

02:30:41.000 What I think...

02:30:42.000 Mind you, combat athletes.

02:30:44.000 Yeah, combat athletes.

02:30:45.000 Because it's different.

02:30:46.000 It's also damage to the pituitary gland.

02:30:47.000 Well, I mean, I think it depends.

02:30:49.000 Like, if you take, for example, you have a guy that's experienced, say he has been fighting for 30 years, right?

02:30:56.000 And he gets, now he has the same testosterone levels as a guy that's 20 years old.

02:31:00.000 That hasn't been fighting more than two years.

02:31:02.000 Right.

02:31:03.000 Then I think that's unfair, right?

02:31:05.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:31:07.000 So it's just so subjective depending on the situation.

02:31:10.000 Here's what's weird.

02:31:10.000 How often are they being tested?

02:31:12.000 And what are their levels during training?

02:31:15.000 And are they leveling off to a normal level when they're fighting? 0.96

02:31:17.000 And what the fuck are they doing during the week?

02:31:19.000 The normal is not optimized. 0.98

02:31:20.000 How does it even work?

02:31:21.000 Are they testing them throughout the training camp?

02:31:23.000 I don't think so.

02:31:24.000 With some guys, that's how Alistair Overeem got busted.

02:31:27.000 Yeah, because they randomly surprise.

02:31:29.000 This is what my friends who know about these things say.

02:31:33.000 Look, they've never seen gear make a crappy athlete a great athlete.

02:31:37.000 It allows good athletes to train harder and to recover faster and get more work done.

02:31:41.000 And whoever does the most work and remains the freshest wins.

02:31:44.000 That makes sense. 0.97

02:31:45.000 So if I'm also looking at you afterwards and you're not making tea and your life sucks, are you kidding me? 0.83

02:31:50.000 Like, we have ways to manage it.

02:31:52.000 That's a really cute, romantic version of the idea, but the reality is it improves you drastically.

02:31:59.000 It improves your ability to perform work.

02:32:03.000 I said that.

02:32:04.000 It also improves your explosiveness.

02:32:06.000 It improves your speed.

02:32:07.000 It improves your power.

02:32:09.000 It improves a lot of things.

02:32:11.000 Hand-eye coordination, being able to track a punch, being able to track a ball?

02:32:14.000 No, it doesn't do that.

02:32:15.000 But if you already have those things, it will make you better at those things.

02:32:18.000 No, no, T does change the way you can perceive the ball.

02:32:20.000 Okay, I see what you're saying.

02:32:21.000 Because of the power and the...

02:32:24.000 Just the change in nervous system.

02:32:26.000 Especially the hyper-levels.

02:32:29.000 I really want to do testosterone right now.

02:32:32.000 Hyper levels at some of these super...

02:32:34.000 Let's go back to the pride days, okay? 1.00

02:32:36.000 I'm not alleging that anybody did steroids, but goddammit, it looks like a lot of people did steroids.

02:32:41.000 People did steroids.

02:32:41.000 And the people that were over there told me people were doing steroids.

02:32:45.000 Do I know people did steroids?

02:32:47.000 I do not know that people did steroids.

02:32:48.000 But let's just assume.

02:32:50.000 Let's not name any...

02:32:53.000 Nationality.

02:32:53.000 Let's think about some certain fighters that just looked insanely jacked to the gills.

02:33:00.000 They didn't even look fucking human. 0.99

02:33:02.000 They would come out with veins on the tip of their nose and just be berserkers. 1.00

02:33:07.000 And fucking roar when they won. 1.00

02:33:10.000 And you would be watching that and you'd be like, that is barely a human being. 1.00

02:33:12.000 Stomping on heads. 0.90

02:33:14.000 Stomping heads, man.

02:33:15.000 Shoving referees.

02:33:15.000 Macho man.

02:33:16.000 If you are an MMA fan and you have not seen Pride, you are doing yourself a disservice.

02:33:21.000 I would suggest start with the Vandele Silva collection.

02:33:24.000 Because that is the quintessential Pride fighter.

02:33:27.000 And if you don't know who Fedor is, shame on you.

02:33:29.000 How dare you?

02:33:30.000 Shame on you. 0.50

02:33:31.000 Not the Fedor of today, before Christianity. 0.96

02:33:33.000 The Fedor pre-religion.

02:33:35.000 I think he always had Christianity, man.

02:33:37.000 I think you just caught up to him.

02:33:39.000 I visited Fedor and I didn't see any of that.

02:33:43.000 Oh, really?

02:33:43.000 Yeah, dude.

02:33:44.000 So when did he take that on?

02:33:46.000 I don't know, man.

02:33:47.000 It was definitely post.

02:33:48.000 We worked on a book with him, and it was definitely post-book.

02:33:51.000 You know what I'm stressed, though, that that guy must have been going through?

02:33:54.000 Dude, he's carrying the weight of a nation.

02:33:57.000 And destroying kids. 0.99

02:34:00.000 Killing monsters, by the way. 0.98

02:34:02.000 How about the way he put Arlofsky away? 0.98

02:34:04.000 Arlofsky comes at him with a flying...

02:34:06.000 And Fujita and Cro Cop. 0.99

02:34:07.000 And Fujita after Fujita fucking rang his bell. 0.98

02:34:09.000 Oh, how about Ferrandelman's body sign on... 1.00

02:34:12.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00

02:34:13.000 ...or suplex him on his neck. 1.00

02:34:14.000 There's a book over there, Fringology.

02:34:15.000 I mean, like, that's fringe.

02:34:16.000 That guy's out loud.

02:34:17.000 Well, you know what that guy was?

02:34:19.000 That guy was bulletproof in the brain.

02:34:21.000 His brain was just ferocious.

02:34:23.000 They called him the Terminator.

02:34:25.000 That's how they all refer to him.

02:34:27.000 What an interesting study in not wasting energy, too.

02:34:32.000 You never saw him with his face tensed up.

02:34:35.000 You never saw him like crazy little allies.

02:34:37.000 It was always like...

02:34:39.000 Really relaxed.

02:34:40.000 And it's probably because the guy trained eight hours out of every day.

02:34:45.000 You know what I mean?

02:34:47.000 Those guys trained hard. 0.99

02:34:48.000 He was smart as fuck. 1.00

02:34:50.000 Yes. 1.00

02:34:50.000 Put it back into the realm of human performance. 1.00

02:34:54.000 Let's say that you're actually eating right.

02:34:57.000 Let's say you have a great coach and you're moving right and you're actually eating right and sleeping right and managing these things, then your augmentation choices matter even more.

02:35:07.000 But we see people covering up bad lifestyle, bad nutrition, and that's the problem.

02:35:12.000 That's my biggest problem with that stuff.

02:35:14.000 Can you make a guy who doesn't have punching power, can you give him punching power or is that a certain innate thing?

02:35:20.000 I mean, I think...

02:35:21.000 That's a big argument.

02:35:23.000 Yeah, we've all met those guys that just have that, like, they touch you, you're out power.

02:35:27.000 You can never give a guy that.

02:35:28.000 You can't give a guy thunder, right?

02:35:29.000 But you have...

02:35:30.000 I don't know, man.

02:35:31.000 And I've talked about this a lot with, like, fighter friends and coaches and whatever, because you always know that guy.

02:35:38.000 Like Julian Jackson.

02:35:39.000 That guy that just has weird...

02:35:39.000 There's a guy, Liam Harrison.

02:35:40.000 He's a Muay Thai fighter.

02:35:42.000 Probably not too many people know who he is, but everybody should.

02:35:45.000 They know a Muay Thai.

02:35:46.000 I mean, he's got that just weird, I touch you, you're out power, right?

02:35:50.000 And I think a lot of it is, one, mechanics play a lot, have a lot to do with it.

02:35:55.000 Like, if you understand how to be in good positions and understand the transfer of energy through the ground, up through your body, all that stuff.

02:36:04.000 Are you that there's just some of those weird guys out there?

02:36:07.000 You can accelerate fast.

02:36:09.000 Joe, you sparred with those guys where you get hit by them and you're like, that should not have hurt as much as it did just now.

02:36:15.000 You ever see Lucas Matisse?

02:36:17.000 You see that boxer, Lucas Matisse?

02:36:19.000 No.

02:36:20.000 He's this new guy.

02:36:21.000 He's just KOing people left and right.

02:36:23.000 It's amazing to watch him.

02:36:25.000 What do you think about that?

02:36:26.000 Do you think some guys...

02:36:27.000 I think it's a bone thing, for one.

02:36:29.000 Just density?

02:36:30.000 They just got more weight?

02:36:31.000 The size of fists.

02:36:33.000 Some people have very large fists, like George Foreman.

02:36:36.000 You ever see George Foreman's fists?

02:36:37.000 They're like hams. 0.79

02:36:38.000 They're like canned hams.

02:36:40.000 There's also Tommy Hearns had this shoulder width thing.

02:36:43.000 I think shoulder width has to do with leverage, and it has to do with the amount of extra travel that's going on before your punch lands.

02:36:50.000 If you have very narrow shoulders, you're not getting as much rotation into your punch, but if you've got some Tommy Hearns type shit going on, by the end of that punch, there's a lot of torque.

02:37:02.000 What did the Russians do? 0.90

02:37:05.000 They developed all of these skills.

02:37:07.000 We have a coach in our gym who's Russian who was plucked out of the Ukraine to be in a Russian swimming program when she was five.

02:37:15.000 Basically they just trained her GPP, GPP, GPP, GPP. They identified her.

02:37:19.000 General physical preparedness.

02:37:20.000 Skills.

02:37:21.000 They taught skills to these kids.

02:37:23.000 And then guess what?

02:37:23.000 They decided, oh look at that kid has huge shoulders.

02:37:26.000 He's going to be good at this.

02:37:28.000 This kid is upright, has long torso, short legs.

02:37:30.000 He's going to Olympic lift.

02:37:31.000 This girl's going to swim. 1.00

02:37:32.000 They start making decisions and it's serendipitous for some of these guys who kind of find their calling It's interesting because it really always becomes a disproportionate battle because if a guy has perfect genetics and he's intelligent and he's disciplined and he's hardworking,

02:38:00.000 he's going to beat the guy who's just hardworking. 0.99

02:38:03.000 And has shit slow genes. 0.99

02:38:06.000 We all know dudes. 1.00

02:38:08.000 Especially when it comes to striking.

02:38:10.000 Striking is when it becomes apparent.

02:38:12.000 There's something about Jiu Jitsu that allows you to be technical.

02:38:14.000 And if your positioning knowledge is two or three moves ahead of the other guy, and you roll long enough, it seems like eventually you catch him.

02:38:21.000 For the most part.

02:38:22.000 Unless the guy is really defensively minded.

02:38:24.000 But dudes are helpless when it comes to striking. 1.00

02:38:26.000 When a guy has that fast twitch muscle fiber, and the good conditioning, and the skill set, You're fucked. 1.00

02:38:33.000 And that's what people don't realize. 0.99

02:38:34.000 Striking is just different.

02:38:35.000 Like Roy Jones Jr. is a perfect example of that.

02:38:37.000 What do you mean? 1.00

02:38:38.000 When Roy Jones Jr. was in his prime, he had such incredible athleticism that it doesn't matter how crisp your boxing is, you're fucked. 0.98

02:38:47.000 So how do you think he just got knocked out? 0.97

02:38:50.000 And then he got older, and his reaction slowed a little bit.

02:38:53.000 I wanted to talk to you about that, because I wanted to talk to you about steroids.

02:38:55.000 Because there's two things with Roy Jones Jr., okay?

02:38:57.000 And I say this in all due respect, I'm a huge Roy Jones Jr. fan.

02:39:01.000 But he changed the John Ruiz fight.

02:39:03.000 It was, in my opinion, the turning point.

02:39:05.000 Because he went up to fight John Ruiz, and he fought John Ruiz at heavyweight.

02:39:08.000 He was big.

02:39:09.000 He was like 200 pounds. 0.99

02:39:10.000 And then he dropped back down to fight Tarver at light heavyweight, and he looked like shit. 0.99

02:39:16.000 Physically. 0.99

02:39:16.000 He looked drained... 0.99

02:39:18.000 His musculature was deflated.

02:39:21.000 He had a hard time making that weight. 0.98

02:39:23.000 He dehydrated the shit out of himself making 175. And guess what? 0.96

02:39:26.000 All of his mechanics changed.

02:39:28.000 So we know this from our powerlifters.

02:39:30.000 I have a friend, Jesse Burdick, who did an elite total at 219 pounds and then six months later went up to 318 and powerlifted there.

02:39:38.000 And when there's a weight component, when you have this natural weight and all of a sudden you drop a whole bunch of weight, your mechanics and leverage changes.

02:39:47.000 Your proprioception changes.

02:39:48.000 The game is different.

02:39:50.000 I have a friend, Mark Bell, great powerlifter.

02:39:53.000 His brother Chris Bell did the documentary Bigger, Faster, Stronger.

02:39:56.000 So Mark was a heavyweight.

02:39:58.000 So you're sort of adjusting as you're moving now.

02:40:00.000 They've got to relearn it all.

02:40:02.000 So Mark's now at like 242 and he had to figure out how to bench again.

02:40:05.000 He's like, nothing was stable.

02:40:07.000 I don't know where I am.

02:40:08.000 And so we don't even think about that with our fighters.

02:40:12.000 Carrying all that weight, moving it around.

02:40:14.000 How about this?

02:40:17.000 Part of the game is water management, right?

02:40:20.000 And if we look at just being dehydrated or just salt, being down, just total salts, you can slow that reaction time coupled with being dehydrated, coupled with challenge to the nervous system, you're not sleeping very well because you're stuck in weight, and then all of your positions change, all your mechanics change.

02:40:35.000 Kicks don't feel the same.

02:40:37.000 To change your weight class is legit.

02:40:40.000 It's so hard to do.

02:40:41.000 It really is.

02:40:42.000 It's really...

02:40:42.000 And also, the elephant in the room is the gear.

02:40:47.000 You know, I think you have to... 0.97

02:40:48.000 If you're in your 30s and you're gaining 30 fucking pounds, you're on gear. 0.99

02:40:52.000 Okay? 0.99

02:40:52.000 Let's just be realistic. 0.99

02:40:54.000 Let's be realistic.

02:40:55.000 You're doing it within six months.

02:40:56.000 What do you think the percentage is of pro athletes?

02:40:59.000 Let's just be safe and say that...

02:41:00.000 Lance Armstrong... 1.00

02:41:02.000 Fuck that debate sideways, okay? 1.00

02:41:04.000 Because now it seems like almost everybody. 1.00

02:41:07.000 You'd think like 80%.

02:41:08.000 If you're going to put a percentage behind it, what would you think?

02:41:11.000 Like a global, like all sports?

02:41:13.000 I think, yeah, I think that might...

02:41:15.000 MMA might be like 80%.

02:41:16.000 I think MMA is actually lower than I think most professional sports, in my opinion.

02:41:21.000 Because there's guys like Roy Nelson, guys like John Fitch, BJ Penn. 0.96

02:41:23.000 That are just outspoken against like, hey, you know what, fuck, and they've taken a stance and now they're not going to... 0.98

02:41:28.000 And it's an honor and a valor thing as opposed to basketball. 0.99

02:41:31.000 It's combat.

02:41:33.000 No disrespect to basketball.

02:41:34.000 No, no, no, not at all.

02:41:35.000 But in basketball, you're not hitting another person in the face on purpose.

02:41:39.000 I couldn't agree more.

02:41:40.000 And I think that it's also there's a reality of the sport itself, the impact that you take over and over and over again just in training where you're going to get the kind of traumatic injuries that almost don't heal naturally.

02:41:51.000 It's a natural occurrence.

02:41:53.000 Don't heal under the parameters of still have to train.

02:41:55.000 I still gotta get work done.

02:41:56.000 How do I excel like that?

02:41:59.000 This is the condition of the fighter.

02:42:02.000 In MMA specifically, you have so many variables that you have to cover.

02:42:07.000 So you're constantly pushing to train every single variable all the time.

02:42:12.000 And it's very difficult, right?

02:42:14.000 So you're always over-trained. 0.87

02:42:16.000 I think most MMA fighters nowadays are over-trained, and then they look for something like, hey, how can I recover so that I can fit all this fucking wrestling and boxing and Muay Thai and skills into a day session? 0.70

02:42:28.000 Dude, I've trained for fights. 0.82

02:42:30.000 I've over-trained. 1.00

02:42:31.000 It's fucking horrible. 0.99

02:42:33.000 Not do it. 0.99

02:42:33.000 Not impossible. 0.99

02:42:34.000 So how do we look around then and say, okay, I'm a fighter, this is my main thing.

02:42:38.000 How do we look around and say, someone has invented this wheel already.

02:42:41.000 What are the best practices elsewhere? 0.95

02:42:43.000 Well, I think with fighters, when I say it's impossible to not do it, what I mean is it's impossible to not do it if you're not approaching the whole situation knowledgeably with a heart monitor and someone who knows what the fuck is going on.

02:42:52.000 And I think that's really what's important about it.

02:42:54.000 But Joe, what's crazy about this, and this is what we're...

02:42:57.000 So just...

02:42:59.000 A little bit of background.

02:43:00.000 So like Rob Wolf, Paleo Solution, nutrition genius, right?

02:43:05.000 Great guy too.

02:43:06.000 Great guy, yeah.

02:43:06.000 So I was lucky enough to be under his wing, strength and conditioning.

02:43:10.000 Bacon aficionado.

02:43:11.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:43:12.000 But like what's great about what Kelly brings to the table is everybody knows, like all the fighters know, like, hey, I need to eat correctly.

02:43:20.000 I need to sleep.

02:43:21.000 I need to train.

02:43:22.000 I need to do all this stuff.

02:43:23.000 But none of them, and I guarantee this because I didn't know it, None of them understand the movement blueprint.

02:43:30.000 Like, hey, what's the master blueprint?

02:43:31.000 What are the key fundamental principles that I need to know to optimize movement function?

02:43:36.000 So, for example, if I'm going to optimize my nutrition, I know if I'm taking a paleo stance, I know that I need to get rid of gluten, right?

02:43:45.000 I need to maybe in some situations lower my carbs or...

02:43:48.000 Ditch dairy.

02:43:50.000 Ditch dairy or...

02:43:51.000 Both of them? 0.89

02:43:52.000 Goddammit! 0.99

02:43:52.000 Hold on, hold on. 0.99

02:43:54.000 You're human.

02:43:54.000 You can still buffer it sometimes.

02:43:56.000 So, but people know this.

02:43:57.000 My point is, is, like, fighters know this, but not a lot of people understand, hey, what's the movement blueprint?

02:44:03.000 Like, okay, I'm in pain.

02:44:05.000 I know I'll be in less pain if I don't eat gluten, but why am I still in pain?

02:44:08.000 Okay, we keep saying that without even explaining it. 0.97

02:44:11.000 So let's get into that, because we've got to wrap this bitch up in about five minutes. 1.00

02:44:15.000 What's wrong with gluten? 0.97

02:44:17.000 Gluten causes inflammation disproportionately for different people.

02:44:21.000 Some people have a small reaction to it, some have a big reaction to it.

02:44:23.000 That inflammatory, constantly inflamed state, that means that you do not adapt as well.

02:44:29.000 You don't recover as well.

02:44:31.000 It's like always running a low-grade infection.

02:44:33.000 I had a chiropractor just tell me that.

02:44:35.000 She was talking to me about an inflammation, and she was recommending the McKenzie protocol.

02:44:40.000 It's a bunch of different kinds of stretches.

02:44:42.000 Test, retest. 0.96

02:44:43.000 Kill the gluten. 0.57

02:44:43.000 Do you feel better, yes or no? 0.57

02:44:45.000 Did your times go better, yes or no?

02:44:46.000 I feel better except when I'm eating.

02:44:48.000 That's the problem.

02:44:49.000 Because it tastes so damn good. 1.00

02:44:50.000 Linguini with clams is one of my fucking weaknesses, man. 0.99

02:44:53.000 But you can get gluten-free pasta, man. 0.99

02:44:54.000 I am mostly Italian. 1.00

02:44:55.000 You can eat shit, too, if you want. 1.00

02:44:58.000 If you want to sit down with a bowl of dicks, you can. 1.00

02:45:01.000 Hey, mom. 1.00

02:45:02.000 Hey, mom.

02:45:02.000 This isn't gluten-free.

02:45:03.000 You're dead.

02:45:04.000 Somebody tried... 1.00

02:45:05.000 Who the fuck Tate was trying to tell me? 0.99

02:45:06.000 Well, you can have a little spaghetti squash. 1.00

02:45:08.000 I'm like, how dare you? 1.00

02:45:10.000 Compare your fucking shitty spaghetti squash to lasagna. 1.00

02:45:15.000 Who the fuck are you? 1.00

02:45:16.000 What if you're telling my friend Tate? 1.00

02:45:18.000 If you're eating right, you should probably be able to have lasagna at mom's house and not mess you up.

02:45:22.000 Sundays, right?

02:45:22.000 What you should do is have a day, right?

02:45:25.000 Well, not even a day. 1.00

02:45:26.000 Listen, if you're at a wedding, you're at your daughter's wedding, you should probably eat the fucking cake. 1.00

02:45:31.000 Don't be an ass. 1.00

02:45:32.000 If I make you bread, it's homemade bread, eat the bread. 1.00

02:45:34.000 Don't be an asshole. 1.00

02:45:36.000 That's a unique event unless you have 365 daughters. 1.00

02:45:38.000 Yeah, well, Joe, here's the deal.

02:45:40.000 Everybody's on a spectrum, right? 0.99

02:45:41.000 You might be on that one end, like Kelly was just saying, where you can eat it and not feel sweet-fuck-all, but you can be on the other end where you have celiac disease and you eat too much of it. 0.99

02:45:53.000 Same with the alcoholics as well. 0.99

02:45:55.000 So how about this?

02:45:56.000 We measure.

02:45:57.000 We ask all our athletes to get a good blood panel.

02:46:00.000 We work with a company in our gym that's kind of started out of our gym.

02:46:03.000 And we don't just take your cholesterol, we fractionate your cholesterol.

02:46:06.000 We look at the inflammatory markers because suddenly you're like, I'm gluten free, I don't eat dairy, but I'm eating bacon every day.

02:46:12.000 And we saw people's cholesterol like triple, quadruple.

02:46:15.000 Turns out like you're not actually, I'm not set up to run that much saturated fat and eat nuts. 1.00

02:46:20.000 You poor bitch. 1.00

02:46:21.000 Because let me tell you something. 1.00

02:46:22.000 I fucking float through bacon. 0.99

02:46:24.000 I'm like a surfer on the bacon fat highway. 0.99

02:46:28.000 It's okay unless there's a million dollars on this fight.

02:46:31.000 It's cool.

02:46:31.000 Go right ahead.

02:46:32.000 What's beautiful is I get my cholesterol checked and it's perfect. 0.99

02:46:35.000 And yet I'm floating on a fucking river of bacon fat. 1.00

02:46:39.000 You handle it. 1.00

02:46:40.000 And the...

02:46:44.000 Hanging 10 on bacon.

02:46:45.000 But the key is, how do you know?

02:46:46.000 Well, you measure it.

02:46:47.000 So you said exactly what we need to be doing.

02:46:49.000 How do we know what we know?

02:46:51.000 It's observable, measurable. 0.53

02:46:52.000 I'm completely bullshitting.

02:46:53.000 If I have bacon once every four weeks, it's a lot. 0.55

02:46:55.000 I try to eat pretty clean.

02:46:57.000 I try to eat only things that grow in the ground.

02:47:01.000 I try to eat grass-fed meat as much as humanly possible.

02:47:04.000 Who's that fighter who has a hunter for him?

02:47:06.000 What's that?

02:47:06.000 There's a fighter who has his own hunter.

02:47:08.000 Cowboy.

02:47:09.000 Cerrone.

02:47:10.000 He has his own hunter for him.

02:47:11.000 Is that what you're talking about?

02:47:12.000 Tim Sylvia, again, is a big hunter.

02:47:15.000 He eats only.

02:47:16.000 Or Brock Lesnar.

02:47:17.000 That guy chokes out deer.

02:47:18.000 Yeah.

02:47:19.000 If you, Hunter, do you eat meat?

02:47:21.000 Oh yeah.

02:47:22.000 Do you go hunting?

02:47:24.000 Do you ever eat venison?

02:47:25.000 Yes.

02:47:26.000 I have crazy theories about food when it comes to especially things that are fast.

02:47:30.000 I think things that are really difficult to catch.

02:47:32.000 They make you faster.

02:47:33.000 I think they're better for you.

02:47:34.000 That's why they're so slippery. 0.99

02:47:36.000 I think we figured out how to beat the whole fish thing with hooks, but try catching a fucking fish without a hook. 1.00

02:47:41.000 And meanwhile, fish are nutritious as shit. 1.00

02:47:44.000 You know? 1.00

02:47:44.000 I mean, they're, like, really fucking good for you. 1.00

02:47:46.000 What did Forrest say? 0.98

02:47:47.000 You know what you eat?

02:47:48.000 You're what you eat eats.

02:47:50.000 Yeah.

02:47:51.000 What you eat eats.

02:47:52.000 What is what you're eating?

02:47:53.000 So if you ate a lion, you'd be, like, super healthy?

02:47:56.000 What a deer eat.

02:47:57.000 They eat a lot of grass and, like, leafy vegetables and delicious nutrients are in their protein.

02:48:02.000 You know?

02:48:02.000 You eat them and they're...

02:48:03.000 They taste so much better.

02:48:05.000 It's concentrated vegetables right there. 0.95

02:48:06.000 Africans eat flies. 1.00

02:48:08.000 What's your question with gluten?

02:48:09.000 They eat fly hamburgers.

02:48:10.000 You ever seen that show?

02:48:11.000 Yeah, and look at their eating system. 1.00

02:48:12.000 That is the most fucked up thing. 1.00

02:48:13.000 They eat mosquitoes and flies. 0.99

02:48:15.000 They'll take a bucket and they whip this bucket through a big cloud of flies and bugs until they get it at the bottom of the bucket and they scrape it into patties and make burgers out of it.

02:48:29.000 But it's protein. 1.00

02:48:30.000 I mean, you're fucked. 1.00

02:48:31.000 You're in Africa. 1.00

02:48:32.000 You've got to do what you've got to do.

02:48:33.000 That's right.

02:48:33.000 And the human being is designed for survival.

02:48:36.000 My question, because this is going to end really soon, and thank you very much for doing this.

02:48:39.000 This has been beautiful.

02:48:40.000 We've got to do it again for sure.

02:48:42.000 The issue with gluten, is it just our bodies are not designed for it?

02:48:47.000 Is it had to do with genetically modifying the actual weed itself, which did happen in the early 1950s or 60s, I believe?

02:48:54.000 I forget which one, but look it up.

02:48:56.000 I don't have time to Google.

02:48:59.000 The people that were making wheat in this country, they sort of engineered it to be a stronger, hardier wheat, and that's when people started having real issues as far as digesting it.

02:49:10.000 Some people didn't, some people still don't, but for a lot of people, it's a big issue.

02:49:17.000 She's super sensitive.

02:49:18.000 She won't eat the birthday cake. 0.51

02:49:19.000 She'll eat some frosting. 0.99

02:49:20.000 Your kid's a freak. 0.99

02:49:21.000 I don't care how to talk to you. 1.00

02:49:22.000 You're a goddamn alien. 1.00

02:49:23.000 She's cruel. 1.00

02:49:24.000 I just had a five-year-old birthday party at my house. 1.00

02:49:26.000 Kids were eating cake like it was fucking going out of style. 1.00

02:49:28.000 How dare you? 1.00

02:49:29.000 How dare you lie to the children? 1.00

02:49:30.000 Hey, you're a terrible father. 0.71

02:49:31.000 No, I'm a beautiful father. 1.00

02:49:33.000 If your daughter got some real cake and you weren't around, she would go crazy. 0.76

02:49:36.000 No.

02:49:36.000 The problem is...

02:49:37.000 She would eat the ice cream.

02:49:38.000 She'd go crazy for the ice cream. 0.95

02:49:40.000 Just teasing.

02:49:41.000 I'm sorry.

02:49:41.000 I don't even remember what we were talking about.

02:49:43.000 We were talking about gluten.

02:49:45.000 Here's the deal.

02:49:47.000 You should never take our word for it.

02:49:49.000 You should test and retest yourself.

02:49:50.000 Don't take anyone's word for it.

02:49:52.000 Go ahead and dump a bunch of medium-chain triglyceride oil into your coffee with some butter and tell me if it doesn't taste better.

02:49:56.000 Yes or no?

02:49:57.000 Do you feel better?

02:49:58.000 Do you have more energy in the day?

02:49:59.000 Yes or no?

02:49:59.000 This is the only thing that matters to us.

02:50:00.000 You are your best experiment and you have the right to experiment with yourself your whole life.

02:50:05.000 Sorry, like you were saying with the lacrosse ball.

02:50:07.000 You do that, right?

02:50:08.000 And this is the brilliance behind Kelly's system.

02:50:11.000 You do it.

02:50:12.000 The test-retest is immediate.

02:50:14.000 Like, oh, my shoulder feels better immediately.

02:50:16.000 Really, literally immediately.

02:50:18.000 So you asked earlier, what do you do about knee pain?

02:50:21.000 And it's just like, one, you correct your mechanics.

02:50:24.000 You understand what is the movement that's causing knee pain.

02:50:26.000 And then two, what can I do on a tissue level that's going to improve the pain immediately?

02:50:32.000 Upstream, downstream, you should...

02:50:33.000 What is actually going on?

02:50:35.000 What is the lacrosse ball doing?

02:50:39.000 What's the technical explanation?

02:50:41.000 It has this material that absorbs your pain.

02:50:45.000 What's happening is you are stiff.

02:50:51.000 You're improving the function and the congestion and the hydration of the tissues, one.

02:50:59.000 Two is that you're undoing this stuck pattern of fascia, so you change that until it moves again.

02:51:05.000 Three is that you probably get your ribs moving.

02:51:06.000 Four is that you change your thoracic mobility.

02:51:09.000 You change that orientation of thoracic spine and the whole system upregulates.

02:51:12.000 You're in a better shape.

02:51:13.000 Alright, last question.

02:51:14.000 What is it about gluten?

02:51:16.000 Because I don't think we totally covered this.

02:51:17.000 What is it about it that makes your body inflamed?

02:51:20.000 What's going on when you eat?

02:51:22.000 It irritates the small intestine.

02:51:24.000 It irritates it?

02:51:25.000 Is it because it's a foreign thing that it's not normal to the human diet? 0.71

02:51:29.000 Is that what it is?

02:51:30.000 It's like having a root canal festering in your mouth.

02:51:33.000 That's your small intestine. 0.97

02:51:34.000 Really? 1.00

02:51:34.000 God damn! 1.00

02:51:35.000 But it comes in the form of spaghetti. 0.99

02:51:37.000 Well, you really have to understand.

02:51:38.000 Gluten is just a protein, right?

02:51:40.000 Your small intestine.

02:51:41.000 Donuts?

02:51:41.000 Donuts are gluten?

02:51:43.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

02:51:43.000 Fried in sugar. 1.00

02:51:44.000 Bam! 0.98

02:51:45.000 Cat sleeping with dogs.

02:51:46.000 I'm out of here!

02:51:47.000 Waffles.

02:51:48.000 Oh my god, waffles.

02:51:49.000 The Belgian waffle at the...

02:51:51.000 And even sometimes chicken, because fried chicken is made with bread.

02:51:54.000 You're in denial, Joe Rogan.

02:51:56.000 You will never go gluten-free, because you just can't let go.

02:51:58.000 It's like a heroin addiction.

02:51:59.000 You're right, I'll never...

02:52:00.000 Convince me to stop smoking cigarettes!

02:52:03.000 I'll go low-gluten, not gluten-free.

02:52:06.000 I only have one cigarette a day.

02:52:07.000 How many servings of gluten would you recommend in a week, for a man like me, of obviously robust character and strong genetics?

02:52:15.000 The justification begins.

02:52:18.000 How much heroin can I have?

02:52:22.000 Is it that bad?

02:52:23.000 Is it a drug?

02:52:26.000 Dave Asprey thinks it's a drug.

02:52:28.000 He thinks gluten is a drug.

02:52:30.000 Dude, it has an opiate effect on your body, right?

02:52:32.000 It does, right?

02:52:32.000 So it has a similar effect, maybe not to the same degree, but look, what you have to understand is, are you trying to optimize your life, your function, whatever, whether it be movement, sleep, whatever it is.

02:52:42.000 Listen, listen.

02:52:43.000 Are you making your money from your body?

02:52:45.000 Are you making your money from your body?

02:52:47.000 If you do, why aren't you playing those corners?

02:52:51.000 If you're making money from your body, but most of the people you're talking to aren't.

02:52:54.000 But even for them, optimization, and also there's a reward for that discipline.

02:52:59.000 When you eat on Sunday, if you have a cheat day on Sunday, if you eat six days of good food a week, and then one day you go off like a rocket.

02:53:06.000 You're probably a human being.

02:53:07.000 You're a human being.

02:53:09.000 Or you might be The Rock.

02:53:10.000 You can go to The Rock's Twitter.

02:53:11.000 He's got the greatest cheat days of all time.

02:53:13.000 You can buffer a bunch of stuff.

02:53:15.000 You should.

02:53:16.000 And you should live a life.

02:53:18.000 Mark Sisson has some really reasonable ideas about this.

02:53:20.000 He puts a little sugar in his coffee.

02:53:21.000 He's like, you know what?

02:53:22.000 My life is better when I put sugar in my coffee.

02:53:24.000 Sue me. 1.00

02:53:24.000 That guy's a pussy. 1.00

02:53:26.000 For the record. 1.00

02:53:26.000 That's a compliment. 1.00

02:53:27.000 That's such a nice thing to say about him.

02:53:29.000 It is.

02:53:29.000 It's a good thing.

02:53:29.000 We already established that.

02:53:30.000 And that's how we're going to end this.

02:53:31.000 We're going to go full circle.

02:53:33.000 Thank you, sir.

02:53:33.000 I appreciate it.

02:53:34.000 That was awesome. 1.00

02:53:35.000 Kelly, you're a bad motherfucker. 1.00

02:53:36.000 If people want to get Kelly's book, it is called Becoming a Supple Leopard. 1.00

02:53:39.000 Do you have a copy of it, Brian?

02:53:40.000 I should put it up in front of the camera.

02:53:43.000 Look at that.

02:53:44.000 Becoming a Supple Leopard. 1.00

02:53:46.000 Dr. Kelly Starrett, you are a bad motherfucker, sir. 1.00

02:53:49.000 And I appreciate you coming here. 0.99

02:53:50.000 Thanks, guys.

02:53:50.000 And I hope we sell you some books.

02:53:51.000 I really think it's going to help.

02:53:52.000 And I'm so glad that you were the guy that invented the lacrosse ball.

02:53:56.000 Because that thing, I'm telling you, has helped me more over the last couple months.

02:54:00.000 Demons out! 0.97

02:54:01.000 It's so hard to get a person to massage you that hard, you know? 0.95

02:54:05.000 Yeah, and you're not going to get a massage every day.

02:54:07.000 You don't have time.

02:54:07.000 Exactly.

02:54:08.000 You only know where your bullshit is, right? 1.00

02:54:10.000 Exactly. 1.00

02:54:11.000 Clan Cordova.

02:54:13.000 Doza.

02:54:14.000 Doza.

02:54:15.000 Dova.

02:54:15.000 Doza.

02:54:16.000 Whatever.

02:54:17.000 Same thing.

02:54:17.000 Change your name, son.

02:54:18.000 It's not as catchy as the Mexican version.

02:54:23.000 Hola! 1.00

02:54:24.000 I'm Glenn.

02:54:25.000 Glenn Cordova.

02:54:26.000 Ladies and gentlemen.

02:54:29.000 Shout out to Arish.

02:54:31.000 Thank you everybody for tuning into the podcast.

02:54:33.000 Thank you Onnit.

02:54:34.000 Go to O-N-N-I-T. Use the code name Rogan.

02:54:37.000 Save 10% off any and all supplements.

02:54:40.000 And please follow Kelly on Twitter.

02:54:42.000 It is MobilityWOD, which is Workout of the Day.

02:54:47.000 So MobilityWOD on Twitter.

02:54:52.000 Glenn, you got a Twitter, man? 1.00

02:54:56.000 That's gangster as fuck. 1.00

02:54:59.000 That's gangster as fuck. 1.00

02:55:00.000 Do you have a Twitter? 1.00

02:55:01.000 No, I do not, sir.

02:55:03.000 I have a Twitter, but yeah.

02:55:05.000 We'll be back on Monday with Bobcat Goldthwait, ladies and gentlemen.

02:55:08.000 Bobcat returns to the podcast.

02:55:09.000 Big kiss.

02:55:10.000 And we're going to work out something next week for Kevin Smith.

02:55:13.000 We're going to go to his place and do his podcast.

02:55:17.000 Brian, you want to come?

02:55:18.000 Yes, of course you do.

02:55:19.000 Alright, he wants you to come too.

02:55:20.000 Alright, we'll see you guys Monday.

02:55:22.000 Jihad, praise Odin.

02:55:24.000 Big kiss.

02:55:29.000 Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - June 07, 2013

Joe Rogan Experience #365 - Kelly Starrett, Glen Cordoza

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