The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #438 - Dr. Mark Gordon

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00:05:01.000 Alright, you fucks. 0.99

00:05:03.000 Dr. Mark Gordon is here, and we're going to learn some shit about life. 1.00

00:05:07.000 So cue the music. 0.99

00:05:11.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.

00:05:16.000 It's my night!

00:05:17.000 All day!

00:05:18.000 My friend. 0.93

00:05:21.000 This, ladies and gentlemen, this is my friend Dr. Mark Gordon, and Mark Gordon is, you're not just a doctor, you're a fascinating dude, and when I first met you, one of the first things I said was like, this motherfucker needs his own podcast, because you can just talk. 0.95

00:05:37.000 Nobody can spit out information.

00:05:39.000 I've never, I've been alive for 46 years, never met a guy who can spit out as much impressive information as you that quickly when it comes to, like, the body.

00:05:48.000 It's my escape.

00:05:50.000 At home, I have four women. 1.00

00:05:51.000 So who gets to talk at home?

00:05:53.000 Right.

00:05:54.000 Not me.

00:05:54.000 Yeah.

00:05:55.000 So outside the world, I get to share what I do.

00:05:59.000 Inside, you get shut down?

00:06:00.000 I get shut down.

00:06:01.000 Wow.

00:06:02.000 But you have a lot of information, dude.

00:06:05.000 Every time I talk to you, I wish I had like a notebook or I wish I was recording it.

00:06:09.000 I always try to remember as much as possible, and you've given me some great advice as far as health and fitness and exercise and all sorts of different things that you know about, but I always walk away from every conversation and go, I know I forgot something.

00:06:22.000 I know I didn't remember something. 0.87

00:06:24.000 Like the last time we were talking, you were telling me about some shit that helps your liver after you drink and you take this... 0.98

00:06:28.000 What is this? 0.99

00:06:29.000 What is it?

00:06:30.000 Unbelievable.

00:06:31.000 Glutathione.

00:06:32.000 Pull that thing closer to your face so people hear you better.

00:06:35.000 Glutathione.

00:06:36.000 And that helps your liver when you drink alcohol?

00:06:40.000 Well, it helps you with just about anything that the liver is responsible for digesting or metabolizing.

00:06:49.000 As you metabolize certain drugs, chemicals, and so forth, the liver uses up its ability to continue the process, so it spills over into the blood, and that's how you get, you know, drunk, because your liver can only deal with a certain amount.

00:07:02.000 So if you replenish or replace the glutathione in the liver, you get incredible benefits of it.

00:07:07.000 Not only does it help with metabolism, but it's an incredible antioxidant for the brain and for the eyes and for the heart.

00:07:14.000 What is it made out of?

00:07:15.000 It's three amino acids that are together.

00:07:17.000 It's in our body, but we don't have enough of it to really generate the metabolism that we need if we're drinking.

00:07:24.000 Now, where do they get that?

00:07:25.000 Where do they get glutathione?

00:07:26.000 Because I know Dave Asprey is really into that stuff, too.

00:07:28.000 He has a version of it.

00:07:29.000 Yeah, it's manufactured.

00:07:30.000 But how do they make it?

00:07:31.000 What is it?

00:07:31.000 Well, it's three amino acids that they put together.

00:07:34.000 And the products that we interact with are...

00:07:39.000 It's a delivery technology where you wrap the vitamins or you wrap the supplement in what's called a liposome, which is like a cell wall.

00:07:49.000 It's from lecithin.

00:07:51.000 It's from soy.

00:07:52.000 And it protects whatever it is that you're ingesting because a lot of the things that you take, like I think I shared with you, if you take a thousand milligrams of vitamin C by mouth, you only absorb nineteen percent.

00:08:02.000 The rest of it's destroyed by the acid that's in the stomach.

00:08:05.000 But if you wrap it in this protection called the liposome, you'll be able to absorb ninety-three percent.

00:08:12.000 So taking something like glutathione, which normally when you take it in its Natural form, it's destroyed.

00:08:18.000 Most of it is destroyed and then absorbed and then remanufactured in the blood.

00:08:22.000 But if you wrap it in this protective outer coating, a liposome, you can absorb it more readily.

00:08:27.000 And the effects are unbelievably positive.

00:08:29.000 For instance, a gentleman who went out drinking three highballs and five shots of tequila went home and subsequently was very dizzy, nauseous.

00:08:38.000 He forgot that I gave him a sample of this glutathione.

00:08:42.000 And he used four puffs under the tongue, held it for 30 seconds, and then 30 minutes later, clears the bell, woke up the next day, went out partying again, couldn't get drunk.

00:08:51.000 What?

00:08:53.000 That sounds like nonsense.

00:08:55.000 It isn't nonsense. 1.00

00:08:55.000 I wish I was smart enough to call you on your bullshit. 1.00

00:08:58.000 Talk to my office. 1.00

00:09:00.000 Aaron will tell you everything.

00:09:01.000 That sounds crazy.

00:09:02.000 Maybe that guy was lying.

00:09:03.000 Maybe he wasn't that drunk.

00:09:04.000 Well, I can't tell you who it was if I told you who it was.

00:09:07.000 You would know?

00:09:08.000 He's a hammer fist?

00:09:09.000 He knows how to throw him down? 0.69

00:09:10.000 He knows how to throw him down.

00:09:12.000 Well, you're giving people some false hope, man.

00:09:15.000 You're telling them to take glutathione and don't worry about you drinking.

00:09:17.000 Well, no.

00:09:18.000 Everything in moderation, but if you go across that line, you need to have something to fall back onto.

00:09:22.000 I need to try that now, but I don't want to get drunk enough to try it.

00:09:25.000 I'm scared to get drunk enough to try it, but...

00:09:27.000 But it sounds like a smart thing to try.

00:09:29.000 You know, for years, I take the kids to Mexico every year, and I take a bottle of scotch with me, and I sit and read a book and drink the scotch over a period of a couple hours, and I turn the bottles empty, my kids go and get me some mojitos, and I continue drinking.

00:09:42.000 I don't get drunk.

00:09:43.000 It turned out that one of the products that I was taking had a very high amount of reduced glutathione in it.

00:09:49.000 So when I got exposed to the glutathione world, which was just last year with Dr. Christopher Shade, who's one of the gurus in the area of glutathione technology and absorption, he introduced it to me and it made sense, reading the literature on how it functions in the liver.

00:10:06.000 That's pretty fascinating.

00:10:07.000 It's great stuff.

00:10:08.000 There's also the dehydration that comes from alcohol consumption.

00:10:13.000 What's the mechanism behind that?

00:10:14.000 Well, alcohol is a diuretic.

00:10:16.000 It causes you to go to the bathroom.

00:10:17.000 And since you used all those colorful words earlier, I'll use the word that makes you pee like a horse.

00:10:22.000 You mean like bad words I use?

00:10:23.000 Yeah, bad words I use.

00:10:25.000 I was going to interrupt you and say, you can say those words on this?

00:10:28.000 Yeah, this is just the internet.

00:10:30.000 This is just the internet.

00:10:31.000 Well, it should be that way.

00:10:32.000 I mean, if you and I were sitting down just having a conversation, we would talk like two normal people.

00:10:36.000 Absolutely. 0.99

00:10:36.000 We're not vulgar, awful people, but occasionally the word fuck is the right word. 0.99

00:10:40.000 Absolutely. 0.97

00:10:41.000 It's the right word in about every tense of the English language. 1.00

00:10:44.000 We're robbed of that freedom by television because people are pretending by not saying fuck on television that people don't say fuck in real life. 0.99

00:10:51.000 So you're never going to really believe what you see on television. 0.99

00:10:53.000 There's always going to be this bridge that you're not willing to cross over because these people never swear.

00:10:57.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:10:58.000 It's silly. 0.61

00:10:58.000 We're the same people. 0.61

00:10:59.000 We're all the same people. 1.00

00:11:00.000 The people that say fuck, the people that don't say fuck. 1.00

00:11:02.000 You don't like to say it? 1.00

00:11:03.000 Don't say it!

00:11:04.000 It's no big deal.

00:11:05.000 Thank you, George Carlin.

00:11:07.000 Yeah, Jesus Christ.

00:11:08.000 It should have been figured out a long time ago, but it's not. 1.00

00:11:10.000 So yeah, you can say fuck on us. 1.00

00:11:12.000 To anal retentive. 1.00

00:11:12.000 Well, I use words like anal retentive instead of assholes. 1.00

00:11:15.000 That's not a good word. 0.99

00:11:17.000 It isn't?

00:11:17.000 Okay, fine.

00:11:19.000 Anal retentive means a totally different thing. 1.00

00:11:21.000 You can't call a person an asshole if they just fucking like to clean their hands. 0.99

00:11:25.000 So anyway, alcohol has a couple of things that it does. 1.00

00:11:27.000 Alcohol is a sugar.

00:11:28.000 So what happens is it causes your blood sugar to go up and then drop because insulin is turned on and you become irritable because you need sugar to run the brain.

00:11:38.000 And then dehydration.

00:11:40.000 You need hydration.

00:11:41.000 Is that why people get hungry for pancakes?

00:11:44.000 They want maple syrup?

00:11:45.000 You want that syrup?

00:11:46.000 Butter and maple syrup?

00:11:49.000 The more carbs, the better.

00:11:50.000 Brain food.

00:11:52.000 Brain food.

00:11:54.000 Yeah, the more carbs, the better for the brain after you drink, right?

00:11:56.000 It's a diuretic, it's a dehydrator, and it's a hypoglycemic dropsy blood sugar.

00:12:01.000 It's an aminosuppressant too, right?

00:12:03.000 It is.

00:12:04.000 Actually, it shuts off growth hormone production. 0.94

00:12:06.000 Yeah, it's not good, but damn, why does it make things so fun? 0.94

00:12:09.000 I know. 0.97

00:12:10.000 What a crazy thing. 1.00

00:12:11.000 Something that makes you so happy for a little while, just so fucking, and so stupid and dangerous and impossible to control. 1.00

00:12:19.000 Like, that's the craziest thing about the alcohol. 1.00

00:12:21.000 It's impossible to regulate how many people.

00:12:24.000 You just put it out in the market and people drink whatever they want.

00:12:27.000 It's not a lot. 1.00

00:12:28.000 You drink a glass like this of whiskey and you're fucked. 0.98

00:12:31.000 What other thing do you have that you can just buy like that that literally will kill you if you drink too much and you can get it everywhere? 1.00

00:12:41.000 It's pretty ridiculous. 0.99

00:12:42.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:12:43.000 It's unbelievable if you really stop and think about it.

00:12:45.000 I think what's even worse is the fact that they've restricted marijuana use for so many years when you look at the stats on people who cause accidents.

00:12:54.000 I mean...

00:12:54.000 You're only saying this because you didn't watch Nancy Grace's piece last night.

00:12:58.000 No, I didn't watch it.

00:12:58.000 If you saw Nancy Grace's speech last night, you would understand that marijuana makes you lazy.

00:13:03.000 Oh, yes. 0.85

00:13:03.000 It makes you fat. 0.85

00:13:04.000 I've seen that.

00:13:05.000 And it makes you just want to sit on the couch and eat chips.

00:13:07.000 That's what Nancy Grace says. 0.99

00:13:10.000 She needs weed so bad, that poor sweetie. 1.00

00:13:12.000 She needs a pot cookie. 1.00

00:13:14.000 Just one of those pot cookies that makes you just go, oh, why was I fighting this?

00:13:19.000 Well, someone would rub her feet. 1.00

00:13:21.000 If she could just sit back on a really comfy couch after a pot cookie and some dude who was really good at it rubbed her feet, she'd be like, why was I saying that this is bad?

00:13:31.000 I'm going to take my shoes off now.

00:13:33.000 Yeah.

00:13:33.000 Poor Nancy.

00:13:34.000 She needs a hug.

00:13:35.000 A lot of people are angry at her.

00:13:37.000 Not me.

00:13:38.000 She needs some love. 0.99

00:13:39.000 She's crazy. 1.00

00:13:40.000 She's talking nonsense about weed. 1.00

00:13:41.000 You're a big fat lady, and you're talking about people being lazy. 1.00

00:13:45.000 That doesn't make any sense at all. 0.97

00:13:46.000 And I know she's not lazy.

00:13:48.000 I mean, she was a judge. 0.99

00:13:50.000 She was running this TV show forever.

00:13:53.000 Being on a TV show is hard work. 0.99

00:13:55.000 Being on a successful TV show for a long time, that's hard fucking work. 0.99

00:13:59.000 But come on, you're talking crazy about weed. 0.99

00:14:01.000 No one's listening to you. 0.95

00:14:02.000 That's nonsense.

00:14:03.000 You're the exact thing that young kids want to avoid. 1.00

00:14:06.000 They want to avoid an angry, yelly, preachy person on television who's yelling at them and telling them some shit that they know is not true. 0.98

00:14:15.000 It doesn't make you lazy. 1.00

00:14:16.000 If you're lazy, you're already fucking lazy. 0.97

00:14:18.000 It has nothing to do with weed. 0.99

00:14:20.000 But don't you think the kids nowadays, they listen to that and they say...

00:14:24.000 Interesting and they just do their own thing. 1.00

00:14:26.000 They know it's a bunch of shit. 1.00

00:14:27.000 I think she's just out of touch. 1.00

00:14:28.000 She's completely out of touch.

00:14:30.000 And it's not just out of touch. 0.99

00:14:32.000 Foolishly ignorant as to the consequences of what she's saying. 0.97

00:14:36.000 Because people are just going to, if you really believe what you're saying, you're doing it in such a foolish way that people are going to immediately discredit the message because it's coming from you. 1.00

00:14:44.000 The marijuana makes you lazy! 0.96

00:14:48.000 No, it doesn't. 0.99

00:14:49.000 Stop it, dummy. 1.00

00:14:51.000 That's a ridiculous statement, and she's only saying it because she's just missed the boat. 1.00

00:14:57.000 She missed the internet. 1.00

00:14:58.000 I think Colorado, Washington, and eventually Arizona will be great test areas to disprove all that bullshit that's being said about marijuana. 0.98

00:15:05.000 Do you know what they're doing, though? 0.99

00:15:06.000 It's a really sneaky thing.

00:15:07.000 The Colorado dispensaries, they have dispensaries that they've had for a long time.

00:15:12.000 They had them back when I lived there, but they have actual retail stores, but they're not allowed to have bank accounts.

00:15:18.000 So they have massive amounts of cash, and the government literally will not let them put it in a federal bank.

00:15:24.000 They can't put it in a state bank.

00:15:25.000 They can't put it in a bank.

00:15:27.000 They don't allow them to put their business. 0.99

00:15:30.000 So they've got to have a safe somewhere and put stacks of fucking paper money. 0.99

00:15:35.000 They've got to remember to count it. 0.99

00:15:37.000 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:15:39.000 This is the stupidest idea ever. 1.00

00:15:41.000 You can make money, but you can't put it in a bank. 1.00

00:15:44.000 Here's even worse.

00:15:44.000 You've probably heard about in Denver.

00:15:46.000 Where they have outlets for picking up marijuana, but there's no place legally designated to smoke it.

00:15:53.000 That's hilarious, too.

00:15:55.000 Yeah, they even have these sniff machines.

00:15:57.000 Have you ever seen them? 1.00

00:15:58.000 They've developed these things to pick out nanoparticles in the air, and they put it over their nose like you're watching a fucking movie. 0.99

00:16:03.000 They're sniffing to smell if they could smell marijuana from your home outside your home. 0.98

00:16:08.000 And if they can, they will give you a ticket.

00:16:12.000 It's a new way to make money with a giant electric, looks like a cartoon nose.

00:16:16.000 This guy's got like a space nose on.

00:16:18.000 Have you seen it?

00:16:19.000 No, I haven't seen it. 1.00

00:16:20.000 Jamie, pull a picture of that shit up. 0.99

00:16:22.000 It's hilarious. 1.00

00:16:22.000 It's called a sniffer? 1.00

00:16:23.000 I don't know what the fucking technical name for it is, but they're literally standing outside of people's houses trying to smell weed. 0.99

00:16:30.000 You made weight legal! 0.99

00:16:31.000 Of course it's in there!

00:16:33.000 You can't have a backyard party?

00:16:34.000 You can't pass around a joint in the backyard or you go have to get a ticket? 1.00

00:16:38.000 Come on, assholes. 1.00

00:16:39.000 That's ridiculous. 1.00

00:16:40.000 What's the big deal? 0.99

00:16:41.000 It smells good.

00:16:42.000 It's an awesome smell.

00:16:43.000 It smells good.

00:16:44.000 It just does.

00:16:45.000 Like, there's some things that don't smell good when they're burning. 1.00

00:16:48.000 Like, cigarettes smell like shit. 0.99

00:16:49.000 Yeah, if hemp oil was legal, I'd be using it. 1.00

00:16:52.000 On what?

00:16:53.000 On my body.

00:16:54.000 Well it is legal.

00:16:55.000 You can get hemp oil.

00:16:55.000 What do you mean?

00:16:56.000 You get detoxified hemp oil?

00:16:58.000 No, because hemp oil doesn't necessarily have THC in it.

00:17:02.000 It's not necessarily psychoactive.

00:17:04.000 It depends on whether it comes from the hemp plant or whether it comes from the female, the marijuana. 1.00

00:17:09.000 I mean, marijuana is not even a real word.

00:17:11.000 Marijuana is the slang for a Mexican wild tobacco.

00:17:14.000 That's where that word came from.

00:17:16.000 When the whole Harry Anslinger and William Randolph Hearst, when they were trying to make marijuana illegal, that's what they started calling it.

00:17:23.000 They couldn't call it cannabis.

00:17:27.000 There's a thing.

00:17:28.000 And when they made it illegal, half the people in Congress didn't even realize that they had made marijuana illegal.

00:17:32.000 Look at that nose, the electronic nose. 0.99

00:17:34.000 It's got a compass on the end of it and shit to tell you where the smoke is coming from. 1.00

00:17:38.000 This is so stupid. 1.00

00:17:40.000 Look at that. 1.00

00:17:40.000 That's a giant electric piggy. 1.00

00:17:42.000 That's a pig with an electric piggy. 1.00

00:17:45.000 That's what that is. 1.00

00:17:46.000 And by the way, you're a pig. 1.00

00:17:47.000 If that's what you do, if you stand in front of people's houses with a fucking electronic sniffer, not even your own nose, you're a pig. 1.00

00:17:53.000 Are you trying to arrest them because they're smoking something that's now legal inside their house, but they left a window open? 1.00

00:17:58.000 You're a pig. 1.00

00:17:59.000 That's a pig. 1.00

00:18:00.000 Awesome. 1.00

00:18:00.000 You're disgusting. 1.00

00:18:01.000 I love technology. 1.00

00:18:02.000 Electronic fucking fake nose. 1.00

00:18:05.000 The guy who made that must have been laughing like a motherfucker. 1.00

00:18:09.000 He was stoned. 1.00

00:18:09.000 He was probably so high when he entered that patent, he didn't even realize he fucked us. 1.00

00:18:14.000 Hey, man. 1.00

00:18:15.000 He's one of us, and he fucked us with his stupid electric robot nose. 1.00

00:18:19.000 But he made lots of money so he could go to Colorado, have his own condo, and smoke all the weed he wants. 1.00

00:18:23.000 Imagine the irony.

00:18:24.000 Imagine if he just started his own pot-selling business after he sold those things.

00:18:28.000 Imagine if he was like the banks betting against themselves.

00:18:31.000 Hey, we all need a cash cow. 1.00

00:18:32.000 That's the move.

00:18:33.000 That's what you do. 1.00

00:18:33.000 You develop shit to help the cops while profiting off weed. 1.00

00:18:38.000 And it all eats itself. 1.00

00:18:40.000 Yeah, it is legal to smoke marijuana on your front porch in Denver.

00:18:44.000 Yeah, they voted last month 10 to 3. Good.

00:18:46.000 Yeah, you can smoke on your front porch now.

00:18:49.000 Powerful Denver!

00:18:50.000 Wow. 1.00

00:18:51.000 Fuck yeah, Denver. 1.00

00:18:53.000 Denver's strong. 1.00

00:18:54.000 But there's going to be a lot of blowback from all this.

00:18:55.000 And the first blowback that we're seeing is the blowback.

00:18:58.000 It is.

00:18:58.000 How's your doing here, Mark?

00:19:01.000 The first blowback is the bank thing.

00:19:03.000 They're not allowed to put their money in banks.

00:19:04.000 So what are they supposed to do? 0.99

00:19:06.000 They have to fucking stash money places, man. 0.99

00:19:09.000 It's really crazy. 1.00

00:19:11.000 You're going to have to buy cash houses and shit and cash boats. 0.99

00:19:14.000 Maybe that's the point. 0.99

00:19:15.000 Yeah, they're trying to get it so that they can't get rich.

00:19:17.000 Which I'm all for, man.

00:19:19.000 I think that if people want marijuana, they should be able to grow it.

00:19:24.000 And it's not hard to grow.

00:19:25.000 And I think that one of the reasons why it's so expensive and been so expensive for so long is because it's illegal.

00:19:31.000 Once it becomes legal, it should all balance out.

00:19:35.000 It should be really easy to get, super easy to access, easy to grow.

00:19:39.000 You don't really need to pay for it.

00:19:41.000 It's just the fear of having somebody come and find your little collective that you and your buddies have set up on some little piece of property somewhere.

00:19:51.000 Well, they've been doing that up north.

00:19:52.000 Yeah.

00:19:54.000 They've been busting houses, million-dollar houses with the entire...

00:19:57.000 Basement, first floor, second floor, with all the hydroponics and marijuana. 0.93

00:20:02.000 They go by your house with a special machine now, and it checks the amount of electrical, whatever the fuck is going on in your house. 0.63

00:20:09.000 So if you have a lot of lights on, they might just storm your house.

00:20:13.000 There was an old couple that was like, I believe they were former FBI or former CIA, and they got arrested. 0.97

00:20:21.000 The fucking, the DEA arrested them, came into their house because they thought they had to grow up when they were just growing vegetables. 0.98

00:20:29.000 So they broke... 1.00

00:20:29.000 I mean, they literally went... 1.00

00:20:31.000 I forget whether it was a former FBI or CIA. I forget who it was.

00:20:35.000 But the DEA literally went into their fucking house because they thought they were growing marijuana. 0.99

00:20:41.000 And, you know, like, Jesus Christ, guys. 1.00

00:20:43.000 Like, do you not check who the fuck these people are? 1.00

00:20:45.000 No. 1.00

00:20:46.000 No?

00:20:46.000 They don't care.

00:20:47.000 Gotta go in there and get those plants.

00:20:50.000 I wish I remembered the exact specifics of the story, but it was hilarious. 0.99

00:20:56.000 Denver, though, they don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:20:58.000 They say, come get us. 0.99

00:20:59.000 That's right.

00:21:00.000 We're cowboys. 1.00

00:21:01.000 We got fucking ranches up here. 1.00

00:21:02.000 We got wells. 1.00

00:21:03.000 We got water wells.

00:21:04.000 I think we're good.

00:21:05.000 I think we're going to keep our weed now. 0.99

00:21:06.000 And it's all this fucking crazy blowback. 0.99

00:21:10.000 Crazy blowback. 0.99

00:21:12.000 Well, I'm expecting the Chinese to come here. 1.00

00:21:14.000 They just dropped $4.7 billion into the American economy buying businesses. 0.66

00:21:18.000 Let's see if they go to Colorado and buy some weed farms. 0.99

00:21:21.000 They're gonna do it.

00:21:22.000 They are.

00:21:22.000 Chinese, they're gonna go off.

00:21:24.000 You were right, Coach.

00:21:25.000 Yeah.

00:21:25.000 Can you imagine how much the world would change if Chinese people came over here and started growing weed?

00:21:32.000 They're very ambitious, folks.

00:21:34.000 It would be over real quick.

00:21:35.000 They've got a lot of money these days.

00:21:37.000 Too much.

00:21:38.000 It's a fascinating thing, isn't it, how these nations look at each other over time?

00:21:43.000 You know, sort of the character of the nation sort of shifts back and forth, and now China...

00:21:48.000 The character has become, instead of one of just total communism, of this rampant capitalism. 0.86

00:21:53.000 This new feeling of China being like, you know, producing literally every fucking cell phone known to man, except for the Samsung ones, which are made in Korea. 0.97

00:22:03.000 All the top cell phones and laptops and shit. 1.00

00:22:07.000 China is just making so much shit. 0.99

00:22:09.000 Yeah, Lenovo bought IBM ThinkPad, and it's now the number one business computer in the world under the name Lenovo. 1.00

00:22:17.000 Wow.

00:22:17.000 Yeah, I work in China.

00:22:19.000 I have a contract in China with the second wealthiest guy in China for wellness centers, and I'm watching what he's buying up.

00:22:26.000 Unbelievable the amount of money that they're dumping here. 0.97

00:22:29.000 I bought a ThinkPad just because I'm dumb, and I figured that would be a way to really inspire me to be less dumb. 0.90

00:22:36.000 I'm going to do some writing on my ThinkPad. 0.97

00:22:38.000 You can't write total nonsense when you have a ThinkPad.

00:22:41.000 It's too pretentious. 0.98

00:22:43.000 But I like that little nipple, man. 0.99

00:22:44.000 Nobody ever stuck with that nipple. 1.00

00:22:46.000 The nipple for the mouse? 0.81

00:22:47.000 Yeah, the nipple for the mouse is pretty sweet, man.

00:22:50.000 I don't know why it never caught on. 1.00

00:22:51.000 They nailed that shit with IBM. A couple other, like, PC laptops had that little nipple. 1.00

00:22:56.000 Yeah, that's my baby. 0.89

00:22:57.000 I had one of those. 1.00

00:22:58.000 That thing was the shit. 0.99

00:22:59.000 I was riding on a ThinkPad, son. 1.00

00:23:01.000 I'm obviously thinking. 0.98

00:23:03.000 You were just playing with that little red nipple. 1.00

00:23:05.000 I wasn't playing with it. 0.98

00:23:06.000 I was working.

00:23:07.000 That's what I said.

00:23:08.000 I was going to work.

00:23:08.000 There's no playing involved.

00:23:09.000 I don't play, dude.

00:23:10.000 I don't play games.

00:23:12.000 Yeah, so that's all made in China, right?

00:23:15.000 Foxconn, of course, which makes all the Apple iPhones.

00:23:18.000 I wonder who makes the nets outside of Foxconn?

00:23:21.000 Imagine if they were American nets.

00:23:23.000 That would be really ironic.

00:23:24.000 We sent American nets over the Chinese factory to catch the workers as they jump from the building. 1.00

00:23:29.000 Imagine that?

00:23:32.000 It's weird, man. 0.99

00:23:33.000 It's weird when you find out how much shit China makes when they duplicate cities and stuff like that. 0.99

00:23:39.000 Like they duplicate Paris and all these other European cities. 0.99

00:23:42.000 Yeah.

00:23:43.000 One of the funniest, not funniest, but one of the most necessary towns that they just got finished doing...

00:23:48.000 Was a geriatric, old-age town for 200,000 elderly Chinese.

00:23:53.000 Well, you think 200,000 elderly when there's 1.3-plus billion people there.

00:23:58.000 So the town has everything.

00:23:59.000 It's got, you know, stores where you can buy diapers, you can buy, you know, liquid drinks and protein, hospitals, their own ER, everything.

00:24:09.000 Just for, I think it's 60 years of age and older.

00:24:12.000 And they're building town after town just to take care of the elderly.

00:24:16.000 They have a really weird thing going on with their children, too, obviously, the one-child thing.

00:24:21.000 It's now unlimited, or it's two.

00:24:23.000 It's no longer one.

00:24:24.000 No, it's actually just a slight variation.

00:24:27.000 The slight variation is if you came from a single-parent household, if you were an only child, if you were an only child, either the male or the female was an only child, you were allowed to have more than one kid.

00:24:39.000 Then you can have two.

00:24:40.000 It's not much of a change.

00:24:42.000 It's not, like, unlimited.

00:24:43.000 It's still, like, they're really trying to restrict...

00:24:45.000 They have too many people.

00:24:46.000 I mean, they know it, everybody knows it, and it's craziness. 1.00

00:24:50.000 And so their solution was to only have men, which is a crazy fucking solution. 0.98

00:24:54.000 I mean, then you have, like, this crazy setup where 70-plus percent of the people are men, and the men are lonely and sad, and they can't find women, and they have this... 0.99

00:25:06.000 Real despair because they might not ever be able to find a woman.

00:25:10.000 It's a real possibility.

00:25:11.000 There's just not that many.

00:25:12.000 That's right. 1.00

00:25:13.000 And the chicks must just be running shit. 1.00

00:25:17.000 They're so powerful there in China. 1.00

00:25:18.000 They must be so powerful.

00:25:20.000 It's so hard.

00:25:21.000 Get one.

00:25:21.000 But their culture hasn't allowed them to be that way.

00:25:24.000 You've got to keep them down.

00:25:25.000 Not like a valley woman. 1.00

00:25:26.000 Sees a few to say white man.

00:25:27.000 You've got to keep them in their place.

00:25:29.000 There's only 30 of them.

00:25:31.000 You can't let them know how valuable they are.

00:25:35.000 It's too many people, man.

00:25:36.000 Whether it's China or India, you get to a billion.

00:25:40.000 I wonder how long it's going to take for us to get to a billion.

00:25:44.000 With the immigration, that's happening fast. 1.00

00:25:46.000 You think so?

00:25:47.000 I think so.

00:25:48.000 All through Mexico, is that what you're saying?

00:25:49.000 No, there's...

00:25:50.000 No senor.

00:25:53.000 That's what I heard.

00:25:54.000 No senor.

00:25:55.000 There's, what, 21 million coming from China?

00:25:59.000 21 million?

00:26:00.000 21 million.

00:26:00.000 A year?

00:26:01.000 21 million between now and 2020. There'll be 21 million people, and they predict there'll be someplace between 6 to 10 million coming just to California.

00:26:11.000 How do they all get in?

00:26:12.000 Is there like a number that the United States won't let anymore in?

00:26:18.000 If they bring a company here, they can get a green card.

00:26:20.000 Would it say 2,100?

00:26:21.000 Yeah, but this was five years ago.

00:26:23.000 Oh, expert.

00:26:23.000 U.S. population to hit 1 billion by 2,100.

00:26:27.000 Fucking crazy, man. 0.99

00:26:28.000 Not too far off. 1.00

00:26:29.000 That's not too far off.

00:26:30.000 Mm-mm.

00:26:31.000 That means that conceivably, Jamie could still be alive to see this.

00:26:36.000 You and I would be gone. 0.99

00:26:37.000 Unless some new shit comes along. 0.99

00:26:39.000 But Jamie might see this. 1.00

00:26:40.000 Always new shit coming along. 1.00

00:26:41.000 Yeah, there is always new shit coming along, right? 1.00

00:26:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:26:46.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

00:26:48.000 A billion is a scary number because it represents chaos.

00:26:53.000 Not just chaos, but also represents...

00:26:55.000 There seems to be a lack of appreciation for life when it gets to that level.

00:27:00.000 And that's when you find these crazy rapes in India and these horrible stories of...

00:27:05.000 People doing terrible things.

00:27:06.000 China, people selling their kids.

00:27:09.000 Not to say that people don't do terrible things over here.

00:27:11.000 They definitely do.

00:27:13.000 People do terrible things everywhere.

00:27:14.000 But it seems like life is not as valuable when there's too much of it.

00:27:20.000 True.

00:27:24.000 There, you know, the China and the black market for organs, Middle East for organs and children. 0.89

00:27:31.000 I mean, these aren't my favorite topics to go through.

00:27:34.000 I read about it because I am across an international marketplace.

00:27:38.000 And it's extremely scary, you know, with three daughters and having to look at that one can be pulled off the street, you know, and sold as in slavery, which is very, very common.

00:27:51.000 You see all the cases that have been coming up with Middle East and with China.

00:27:55.000 How about with Ohio? 0.99

00:27:57.000 You know, wasn't that fucking guy, where did he live in Ohio? 0.99

00:27:59.000 Cleveland. 0.99

00:28:00.000 Cleveland, yeah, the Cleveland guy.

00:28:01.000 They found he had a bunch of women living in his basement. 1.00

00:28:04.000 Kidnapped them and locked them up in his basement.

00:28:07.000 There's been a few of those over the past few years.

00:28:10.000 So it's not just there.

00:28:11.000 You know, it's not just China.

00:28:12.000 A woman has to be worried about that here, too. 0.99

00:28:14.000 It's all over the world.

00:28:15.000 Yeah.

00:28:15.000 It's all over.

00:28:16.000 I'm just talking about, you know, the venues that I travel in and here, the stuff going on, the thing that happened in India. 1.00

00:28:22.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:28:23.000 Yeah, there's so much rape in India. 1.00

00:28:25.000 Pakistan. 1.00

00:28:25.000 It's insane. 1.00

00:28:26.000 Pakistan. 0.93

00:28:26.000 These stories. 0.93

00:28:27.000 And the other thing is also the perspective. 0.97

00:28:30.000 Because, I mean, without a doubt, any of those stories about gang rape in India, they're horrible and disgusting and terrifying.

00:28:37.000 I think the reason why we're hearing about so many crimes from there, though, is that we can't even realize what it's like to have an extra, like what we have now, plus an extra 700 million crimes.

00:28:51.000 Like, that's out of control.

00:28:53.000 And, you know, that might be the problem in itself.

00:28:56.000 This insane psycho behavior might be that there's so many people that when it gets to that level, the life just gets devalued.

00:29:04.000 Well, fortunately, in China, they have lots of places to spread out to. 1.00

00:29:08.000 But they're all concentrated, you know, in areas like Beijing and Shanghai and Guangzhou and Canton and so forth.

00:29:15.000 But it's wall to wall.

00:29:17.000 That's insane.

00:29:18.000 It's like Japan. 0.95

00:29:19.000 Yeah.

00:29:20.000 Sardines in a can in the trains.

00:29:23.000 Yeah.

00:29:23.000 Yeah, they push people in.

00:29:25.000 They actually have the guards there that really push you in. 0.99

00:29:28.000 Yeah, that's so fucking crazy.

00:29:30.000 When we look at California with the expansive horizons that we have in Texas and Alaska, I mean, we're very blessed to have these beautiful places that, you know, my fear is that we have so many people coming in that it starts crowding us. 0.97

00:29:45.000 In the cities, we're already having the crowding.

00:29:47.000 Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego.

00:29:51.000 So you have to look for bumfuck Iowa or Coeur d'Alene.

00:29:55.000 Beautiful places.

00:29:56.000 Yeah, they might be the last bastions of hope.

00:29:58.000 You know, it really seems like if people keep expanding the population at this rate, it's almost inevitable that the whole country...

00:30:07.000 It gets dragged into the same situation that we've seen in these other countries.

00:30:10.000 It's almost inevitable numbers-wise, right?

00:30:12.000 You're just going to run into an uncontrollable, unmanageable size of humans, whether it's 500 million or a billion or whatever the number is.

00:30:22.000 Yeah, the ACLU will get in there and say, what are you trying to restrict to one child per family? 1.00

00:30:27.000 They'll never do that.

00:30:28.000 Yeah, well, I hope so.

00:30:29.000 But still, somebody's got to do something.

00:30:33.000 It's just the question of, you know, you don't want to really let nature take its course. 1.00

00:30:38.000 Because what nature will do is say, oh, there's too many fuckers. 1.00

00:30:41.000 Let's just give you a horrible disease. 1.00

00:30:43.000 You know, let's just give you some ruthless shit that you'll never recover from and kill 99% of you. 1.00

00:30:49.000 And that's what nature would do. 1.00

00:30:51.000 Nature would just figure out a way to fuck you. 1.00

00:30:54.000 So, if we don't fix it ourselves, nature fixes it. 1.00

00:30:59.000 You hope.

00:31:00.000 Yeah.

00:31:00.000 You hope.

00:31:01.000 And you hope we don't accelerate it with all our genetic engineering.

00:31:05.000 Are you worried about that?

00:31:07.000 I'm extremely worried about it.

00:31:09.000 Since, you know, GMO has been around, we've been seeing an increase in celiac disease.

00:31:14.000 We've been seeing autoimmune diseases like lupus.

00:31:17.000 The article's now starting to confirm what we thought, that there is an association with gluten From breads, from grains, and lupus and rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's, which are all names for diseases that create inflammation and start,

00:31:33.000 you know, destroying our own cells, our own tissue, our bones, rheumatoid arthritis.

00:31:38.000 And there are articles now coming out showing that there's this relationship to it.

00:31:42.000 And then you look back of when GMO started with Monsanto and some of the other companies, and you start seeing the trend, the increase in these diseases.

00:31:49.000 Why didn't we have these diseases in the past, like autism?

00:31:52.000 Why is autism at such an incredible level, what is it, 1 to 20, 1 to 50, when it used to be 1 to 400?

00:32:00.000 Is it relative to the immunizations?

00:32:02.000 We went from, you know, a small amount of immunizations.

00:32:05.000 Now we're giving, what, 30 in a year to the kids between, you know, up to five years?

00:32:09.000 I don't remember really what the numbers are.

00:32:10.000 I stopped pediatrics years ago.

00:32:12.000 But when you inject all these inflammatory chemicals, I mean, that's what happens when you do an immunization.

00:32:19.000 It creates inflammation.

00:32:20.000 This is a hot topic.

00:32:22.000 And it's a very, like, when you start talking about it, like, there's people that are immediately going to dismiss you.

00:32:28.000 Absolutely.

00:32:28.000 You start talking about, oh, he's one of those anti-immunization guys.

00:32:32.000 But if you realize the statistics, if you start looking at the statistics for the vaccine court, what vaccine court has had to pay out, they've had to pay out numerous large settlements with people, millions and millions and millions of dollars, because they connected the immunization shots to their kids getting autism.

00:32:51.000 Correct.

00:32:51.000 That's a weird thing.

00:32:52.000 People don't want to hear that fact.

00:32:54.000 No.

00:32:54.000 I mean, they could say, well, they just lost in court because it was a misinformed judge.

00:32:57.000 I mean, there can be some variables, but the reality of the situation is...

00:33:02.000 You're not supposed to give a baby peanut butter. 1.00

00:33:05.000 A fucking little tiny baby shouldn't even get peanut butter because it could kill them. 1.00

00:33:08.000 If that kid is allergic to peanuts, if she's got that allergy, you could literally kill a baby with peanut butter. 1.00

00:33:14.000 Why is it okay to just shoot chemicals in and assume that everyone's going to have a uniform reaction to these chemicals?

00:33:21.000 Are most people going to be okay?

00:33:22.000 Yes.

00:33:23.000 Is it good that we have vaccinations because they prevent us from diseases? 0.86

00:33:27.000 Abso-fucking-lutely.

00:33:28.000 I've had a bunch of vaccinations in my life. 0.94

00:33:29.000 I think they're very important.

00:33:31.000 Should you give them to babies? 1.00

00:33:32.000 I don't fucking know about that. 0.99

00:33:34.000 I don't know about that. 0.99

00:33:36.000 I don't know.

00:33:37.000 Maybe we should look at that real quick because what are you shooting in there?

00:33:41.000 You know it's a baby.

00:33:42.000 It's a day old.

00:33:44.000 You're going to shoot chemicals in it.

00:33:46.000 Maybe let it sit around for a while and grow and get stronger maybe.

00:33:51.000 And that's what a lot of doctors think.

00:33:52.000 They think that there should be a protocol where you don't give them any shots until they get to be about two.

00:33:56.000 And then you slowly start introducing them to the essentials.

00:34:00.000 You avoid, like, when they're babies, you don't give them things to prevent VD. You know?

00:34:05.000 But people want to do that kind of shit. 1.00

00:34:08.000 There's a lot of money in fucking vaccines. 1.00

00:34:10.000 And as soon as a corporation gets behind the bottom line, they're just trying to sell more. 1.00

00:34:15.000 They'll try to figure out a way to make it so, like, look, the fucking kid can take it. 0.99

00:34:19.000 These kids are strong these days. 1.00

00:34:20.000 They're eating our GMO corn.

00:34:22.000 You can give them a hard vaccine.

00:34:24.000 Come on, we've been making a lot of money, Tommy.

00:34:27.000 Come on.

00:34:29.000 Well, one of the recent ones for adult females or adolescent females is a product for HPV, human papillomavirus, which can cause cervical cancer.

00:34:39.000 It's a product called Garnicel.

00:34:40.000 And there are reported cases of healthy women who get the Garnicel and end up with problems with their brain.

00:34:47.000 And the issue is, you know, from the young and also for adults, Any age really is the protection that our body has is this wall, this barrier called the blood-brain barrier that stops things that are caustic and harmful to our brain from getting in.

00:35:00.000 It doesn't fully develop to maybe five years of age in the average child.

00:35:05.000 So when you're giving an overwhelming amount of inflammatory...

00:35:09.000 It creates an immune response, and it goes into the brain.

00:35:12.000 Well, it passes that inflammatory process into the brain, and that's probably, and they'll deny it, you know, part of the reason why it happens.

00:35:20.000 They were talking about the theol, which is mercury that used to be in or is still in some of the immunizations.

00:35:27.000 They thought it was mercury toxicity, and, you know, my partner in This is all scientific fact, right?

00:35:34.000 This is all scientific fact.

00:35:35.000 Yes.

00:35:37.000 And that alone, there's the people that are automatically dismissing you right now.

00:35:41.000 And I'm sure there are a bunch.

00:35:42.000 And me as well. 1.00

00:35:43.000 And they should dismiss me because I'm a fucking idiot and I don't know what I'm talking about. 1.00

00:35:46.000 I'm just repeating a bunch of words that I've read online. 1.00

00:35:49.000 Dismiss me away, please.

00:35:51.000 But recognize that this is not as cut and dry as you think.

00:35:54.000 And it's not that immunizations are bad.

00:35:56.000 Everybody wants to say, oh, someone's anti-vaccine.

00:35:59.000 Oh, she's causing the deaths of thousands because she doesn't endorse giving babies vaccines. 1.00

00:36:04.000 No, that's not the case. 1.00

00:36:06.000 But what the case is, is you've got to realize it's a fucking chemical. 0.99

00:36:10.000 And the idea that just shooting a foreign chemical into a baby is totally safe. 1.00

00:36:17.000 Like, are you sure? 0.89

00:36:18.000 Are you fucking sure how the little baby body is gonna react to a needle being shoved into it and you inject some man-made chemicals that just might have mercury in them? 0.97

00:36:29.000 Everybody's gonna be okay? 0.98

00:36:32.000 Well, I agree with you that we all need immunizations.

00:36:35.000 Yes.

00:36:35.000 I think it's the timing that we need to reassess.

00:36:38.000 I think you're correct.

00:36:39.000 And I know nothing.

00:36:41.000 You're correct, sir.

00:36:43.000 I've done the studies.

00:36:43.000 Well, you're correct.

00:36:44.000 You've done your reading.

00:36:45.000 Well, I've done a lot of reading about people much smarter than me figuring things out. 0.98

00:36:49.000 And one of the things they figured out is that babies are fucking genuinely sensitive. 0.98

00:36:53.000 Correct. 0.99

00:36:53.000 They're really small. 0.99

00:36:54.000 They're not really developed yet.

00:36:56.000 It doesn't mean that, like, vaccines are bad.

00:36:59.000 Vaccines are awesome.

00:37:00.000 Vaccines are the reason why we don't have polio.

00:37:02.000 Vaccines are the reason why there's a million things, like mumps, which is actually starting to make a comeback because people are not vaccinating their kids for mumps and measles, you know?

00:37:12.000 So it's not entirely good to not vaccinate either.

00:37:16.000 It's good.

00:37:17.000 It's just it needs to be done at the right time probably.

00:37:20.000 And we need to figure out why there's so many of them.

00:37:23.000 I mean, are they all necessary?

00:37:24.000 Are we sure that that's a good idea?

00:37:26.000 And I don't think there's any way to do it until they clone fake people, headless people, or use them as prisoners.

00:37:33.000 Prisoners.

00:37:34.000 That's what they should do.

00:37:36.000 Give them vaccines.

00:37:38.000 But you can't do that because you've got to test them on babies.

00:37:40.000 You need to make fake babies. 1.00

00:37:41.000 It's the only way to do it.

00:37:43.000 But then there would be a lot of people that are convinced that they've made a real baby.

00:37:47.000 Because it would have to be so perfect in order for my experiments to work.

00:37:52.000 Write it up as a thesis.

00:37:54.000 It's a good TV show.

00:37:55.000 It's like one of those CSI shows, but it's all about fake babies.

00:37:59.000 Yeah, man, I think that a lot of people want an either or in that case, and I'm glad that you have the courage to talk about that because you know as well as I know that it's such a hot topic that immediately even discussing the possibility that occasionally there could be problems when you inject kids Correct.

00:38:15.000 People assume you're like a 9-11 truther.

00:38:19.000 You believe the towers were broken down by thermite. 0.83

00:38:23.000 They put you in that nutter category right away.

00:38:26.000 You're a chemtrail believer. 1.00

00:38:28.000 You're a fucking UFO fanatic. 1.00

00:38:30.000 You know where Bigfoot lives. 1.00

00:38:31.000 Boom.

00:38:32.000 I've got his address.

00:38:34.000 You know what I'm saying.

00:38:35.000 Absolutely.

00:38:38.000 You know, they think that...

00:38:41.000 I mean, you made a comment about it.

00:38:42.000 We're all the same.

00:38:43.000 We're not all the same.

00:38:45.000 And you give the same products to 90 different people and you get 90 different reactions.

00:38:50.000 You hope you get a couple of them that have no reaction.

00:38:53.000 But they think that we live in a perfect world.

00:38:56.000 And that's the problem.

00:38:57.000 They don't take into consideration that the genetic, you know, uniqueness of each person.

00:39:03.000 Unquestionable genetic uniqueness.

00:39:04.000 But that's not convenient if you're just trying to turn a profit.

00:39:07.000 Correct.

00:39:08.000 And that's why it's weird that we just allow that to happen.

00:39:11.000 I mean, it's not anti-science.

00:39:12.000 It's not anti-medicine.

00:39:13.000 It's common sense.

00:39:15.000 It's very simple.

00:39:18.000 Who's waiting?

00:39:18.000 Hold on.

00:39:19.000 Is there profit going on here?

00:39:20.000 Wait, you guys are profiting.

00:39:21.000 How much money? 1.00

00:39:23.000 Holy shit! 1.00

00:39:24.000 You find out how much money is in vaccination, like, that much? 1.00

00:39:28.000 First of all, why does it cost that much?

00:39:30.000 Why are you making that much money?

00:39:31.000 And second of all, does that have anything to do with why they give so many vaccinations?

00:39:36.000 Is that possible?

00:39:37.000 And if you think it could be, if you think that people are sneaky and slimy enough that that could be, it has to be something that we all take into consideration. 0.89

00:39:44.000 It doesn't mean that you're a nutter. 0.77

00:39:47.000 That seems like a writing on the wall kind of a thing.

00:39:51.000 It's all about profit.

00:39:53.000 I'll give you an example that you might have heard last week.

00:39:56.000 The company came out with a new drug for hepatitis C. Hepatitis C is a chronic process, a viral infection.

00:40:01.000 We don't really have very good treatment for it.

00:40:03.000 They use alpha interferon.

00:40:05.000 It doesn't work that well.

00:40:07.000 They came out with a drug, one capsule a day for 84 days.

00:40:12.000 It costs $1,000 a tablet.

00:40:15.000 It cost them $2 billion to get it to where it is right now.

00:40:19.000 There are 4.1 million people in the United States with hepatitis C. It'll only take 250,000 to pay off everything, and they've got 4.1 million people with hepatitis C. So the argument is,

00:40:36.000 why doesn't the company lower the cost for it so it'll make it more available to more people?

00:40:41.000 Because they have, you know, a program for hardship cases, and the CEO was on this radio program that I was listening to, and he says it's not our model to lower the price.

00:40:53.000 Whoa.

00:40:53.000 It's not our model to lower the price.

00:40:56.000 It's not their model.

00:40:56.000 We want $1,000 a pill.

00:40:57.000 $1,000 a pill.

00:40:59.000 Is it because the research and development costs were so high?

00:41:01.000 Is that what they're saying?

00:41:02.000 It was very high, and they bought the technology from another company.

00:41:06.000 But you do $250,000 times $84,000, and that's the amount of money that it cost them to do everything that they've done.

00:41:15.000 It just seems like if you give people the opportunity to make more or less money, it's up to them.

00:41:21.000 Well, that's what it is. 0.99

00:41:23.000 Some people that go fucking crazy. 0.99

00:41:24.000 It's like gasoline. 0.99

00:41:25.000 Why is gasoline 47 cents in Abu Dhabi?

00:41:28.000 Right.

00:41:29.000 But you can't limit it either.

00:41:31.000 That's what's weird about being a person.

00:41:33.000 You can't tell people what to do either way.

00:41:36.000 You know, it's hard to tell them what to do. 0.99

00:41:39.000 I mean, it's hard to say, well, how can I say that, you know, your shit costs too much, your pills cost too much, when maybe I'm not willing to work for less either. 0.99

00:41:49.000 And everybody goes, ah, we'll just leave it alone. 0.99

00:41:51.000 Well, the economy of scale is, if you're making $7.50 an hour working 40 hours a week, how can you afford to pay $1,000 a pill?

00:42:00.000 That's craziness.

00:42:01.000 It's so much money.

00:42:02.000 It's an insane amount of money.

00:42:04.000 Mm-hmm.

00:42:06.000 But how is research and development funded when they do something like that?

00:42:10.000 How long does stuff like that take?

00:42:12.000 Like if they're going to develop some sort of a crazy pill?

00:42:13.000 What's like a high-end figure?

00:42:15.000 High-end could be, you know, 10, 15 years on the short, which is the fast track that they have with the FDA. It's three years.

00:42:21.000 And the only problem with that, if you look the past 5, 10 years, the drugs that went through the fast track, there were a number of them that were taken off the market because of the side effects that they didn't see in the first three years.

00:42:33.000 Well, they were there.

00:42:34.000 There was one drug that was for a form of leukemia that was just taken off the market where it caused your blood vessels in your limbs to shut down so your leg would lose, ischemia is the term, lose blood supply so it would go dead and they'd have to amputate your limb. 0.99

00:42:51.000 Oh, fuck. 0.99

00:42:52.000 And this is what was going on. 1.00

00:42:54.000 There was another drug that was for ovarian cancer, which is a very...

00:42:58.000 Drastic thing.

00:43:00.000 Gene Wilde's wife from Laffin died of ovarian cancer.

00:43:05.000 Anyway, and they had it out for a year.

00:43:08.000 At the end of the year, the FDA took it off the market because they found that it had no statistical benefit.

00:43:16.000 People didn't get better.

00:43:17.000 Wow.

00:43:18.000 So how was it that they were allowed to have this drug marketed?

00:43:22.000 I don't know how many thousand dollars it was per treatment, but it was just phenomenal.

00:43:27.000 And the drug for diabetes, which was taken off the market after a year because of liver failure.

00:43:35.000 You know, the anti-inflammatory medication Vioxx with the cardiac problems.

00:43:42.000 I was just going to bring that up.

00:43:43.000 I know a dude who had a stroke because of that stuff.

00:43:47.000 Guy Metzger is his name.

00:43:48.000 He's a former UFC fighter, like a really elite fighter and one of the pioneers of MMA. Handsome guy, too.

00:43:56.000 Fucking beautiful head of hair. 0.99

00:43:57.000 He does commentary now. 1.00

00:43:59.000 And he was apparently taking it because he had arthritis in his knees.

00:44:04.000 He had real bad inflammation in his knees.

00:44:06.000 And then his family, people around him, started saying, like, what's going on?

00:44:10.000 Are you slurring your words?

00:44:11.000 Like, what's happening?

00:44:12.000 Stroke.

00:44:12.000 He realized he had had a stroke.

00:44:14.000 And then it turns out that a bunch of people that took this stuff and had strokes...

00:44:17.000 He's made a full recovery.

00:44:18.000 But, you know, it's because he's a young, healthy guy. 1.00

00:44:20.000 But that's fucking scary shit. 1.00

00:44:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:23.000 So, basically, not everybody has a side effect of medications.

00:44:26.000 Medications generally are very good.

00:44:29.000 You just have to be cautious when you start putting into those little...

00:44:32.000 Five-pound, six-pound critters we call kids.

00:44:35.000 Babies.

00:44:36.000 Well, yeah. 1.00

00:44:36.000 I mean, and even fucking MMA fighters. 1.00

00:44:39.000 205-pound guy Metzgers. 0.97

00:44:41.000 I mean, it's pretty much everybody's got to be careful.

00:44:45.000 It's not totally figured out yet.

00:44:48.000 Not with every single human being.

00:44:50.000 There's a lot of variables that people have to work with when they make drugs or solutions.

00:44:56.000 Just the variables.

00:44:58.000 Just the different amount of places where people came from.

00:45:02.000 Of course there's different things that they were exposed to in their ancestors' genes.

00:45:08.000 Yeah, have you ever had genetic testing?

00:45:10.000 No.

00:45:11.000 I think I'm a chimp.

00:45:12.000 I don't think I'd qualify for being a person.

00:45:15.000 You definitely would have about three and a half Neanderthal.

00:45:17.000 I might be a missing link.

00:45:19.000 No, they'll find Neanderthal. 0.99

00:45:21.000 Yeah, I know someone in my family fucked a monkey. 1.00

00:45:24.000 Someone down the line totally fucked a monkey. 1.00

00:45:28.000 I don't want to find out that I'm more Neanderthal than a regular person. 0.99

00:45:31.000 But then they say, Neanderthals are looking up lately, by the way, I've been reading.

00:45:35.000 Healthy, strong.

00:45:36.000 No, no, no.

00:45:37.000 They're starting to think they may have been a little smarter than when people are giving them credit for.

00:45:40.000 Might have been able to talk.

00:45:43.000 Might have been able to, they use tools, they know that.

00:45:47.000 They think that Neanderthals were very similar to human beings, but just not quite.

00:45:53.000 It took the alien genetics to bring them up to homo-hung. 1.00

00:45:57.000 Habilicus and Homo sapien and Homo erectus.

00:46:00.000 That's what I was just going to tell you.

00:46:01.000 Go ahead, tell me.

00:46:02.000 Go ahead, tell me.

00:46:04.000 I was just going to inform you about the process.

00:46:07.000 Yeah.

00:46:08.000 You know, they still haven't figured out how Neanderthal jumped all the way up to, you know, Homo erectus, Homo habilicus, and Homo sapien.

00:46:15.000 And the distinction was the frontal cortex or the neocortex, the new brain part, which is how we get our language skills and we get our thought processes and integration of our emotion and, you know, control frontal lobes with command and executive functions.

00:46:32.000 And, you know, they're still looking for that missing link.

00:46:36.000 Yeah, well, it's a fascinating thing, the whole process of trying to figure out our past with fossils.

00:46:44.000 Because fossils are really difficult to create.

00:46:46.000 You have to get caught in some sort of a natural disaster, a mudslide, or something's going to happen to preserve the body.

00:46:52.000 Because normally the bodies will get eaten by scavengers. 0.57

00:46:55.000 I mean, that's what scavengers are there for.

00:46:57.000 Especially in those days, man, I'm sure there was a lot of death.

00:47:01.000 Things were just dying.

00:47:02.000 People weren't living this long.

00:47:03.000 So the idea that...

00:47:06.000 We could figure out our entire fossil record just by finding bones. 1.00

00:47:10.000 Boy, that's a fucking shitty record we're dealing with. 0.98

00:47:13.000 They just found, I think, a partial skull, which is the oldest, 100,000 years old or 100 million years old. 0.99

00:47:19.000 I don't remember how many zeros were after it, but they're finding a new ancestor.

00:47:26.000 Yes, yes.

00:47:27.000 Did you see that article?

00:47:28.000 Yeah, I've seen several of them.

00:47:29.000 There's been a lot of new discoveries over the past, like about, say, 10 or so years ago.

00:47:34.000 Whenever it was that they discovered that Hobbit man, Flores... 1.00

00:47:38.000 Do you know about that?

00:47:39.000 No.

00:47:39.000 Homo floriensis, I believe, is the term.

00:47:42.000 The hobbit people. 0.99

00:47:43.000 They were three foot tall, little, like, chimp-like people. 1.00

00:47:47.000 Bipedal, little elves. 0.99

00:47:48.000 I mean, they lived on a fucking island, and they think that they might have even preyed on human children. 0.99

00:47:54.000 They think that they might have been... 0.99

00:47:58.000 I don't know why that was even theorized.

00:48:00.000 But they thought that maybe that might have been one of the reasons why they killed them off.

00:48:04.000 That there was some predation between the two species.

00:48:09.000 That's just a theory.

00:48:11.000 And it's not mine, by the way.

00:48:13.000 But they think that that has occurred in some places where chimps have got in and stolen babies.

00:48:19.000 And they eat the babies. 0.70

00:48:20.000 That's chips.

00:48:21.000 You're saying they're little people.

00:48:22.000 Yeah, but what they're saying is that primates, yes, sort of for people like, I mean, they were very, very, very primitive, but they lived as recently as 10,000, 15,000 years ago.

00:48:33.000 So if 10,000, 15,000 years ago, humans were in this exact form, and we were dealing with these weird little chimp people like this, look at these things. 1.00

00:48:41.000 Like, they have the various forms of humans.

00:48:43.000 That little tiny thing, that's it.

00:48:45.000 That's the Homo floreensis.

00:48:46.000 Jamie, see if you can pull up a better picture of it, because there's some interesting drawings that they did, like individual ones, like one of the ones you showed earlier.

00:48:52.000 What does Homo erectus look like? 0.99

00:48:54.000 It's the dude with a big dick. 1.00

00:48:56.000 It's erect. 1.00

00:48:58.000 Homo erectus.

00:48:59.000 That's it. 0.99

00:48:59.000 And he's gay. 0.99

00:49:04.000 Bad. 1.00

00:49:05.000 Yeah, that's a terrible joke.

00:49:07.000 But this Hobbit person thing, I mean, this absolutely, without doubt, walked alongside with people.

00:49:15.000 So if you see that person there, and...

00:49:17.000 Well, that guy's yoked.

00:49:18.000 Who is that guy?

00:49:19.000 That guy looks like Gleason Tebow.

00:49:21.000 Look at him, he's stacked.

00:49:23.000 But that's a rare person.

00:49:24.000 Don't compare that size.

00:49:25.000 But the little Hobbit guy right next to him... 1.00

00:49:29.000 It's really fascinating stuff, man.

00:49:31.000 So that means that all those stories that the Indonesian people would tell, and there's like the Orang Pendek that jungle people say is still alive.

00:49:43.000 They still think there's a small population of these things that still exist.

00:49:47.000 And they call it the Orang Pendek. 0.54

00:49:49.000 It's a little chimp-like tiny person that lives in the forest. 1.00

00:49:54.000 It's fucking crazy, man. 0.98

00:49:56.000 If there was a small amount of those people that are still actually left, living in some crazy rainforest somewhere, that's not outside the realm of possibility. 0.99

00:50:04.000 Much more likely than Bigfoot.

00:50:08.000 That there's this little hobbit man that's still alive. 1.00

00:50:10.000 Because that was always the legend. 0.99

00:50:11.000 And when they found this in the island of Flores, they're like, holy shit. 0.96

00:50:15.000 Where's the island of Flores? 0.97

00:50:18.000 That's a good question.

00:50:19.000 Is it near Florida?

00:50:21.000 No, it's near Flores.

00:50:22.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:50:23.000 I don't know where it is.

00:50:24.000 I think it's like Sumatra or something like that.

00:50:26.000 Maybe I just made that up.

00:50:28.000 Isn't that like, what part of the world is it?

00:50:32.000 Probably all vitamin D deficient.

00:50:34.000 All those people?

00:50:35.000 Yeah, to be so short.

00:50:36.000 Okay.

00:50:36.000 Indonesia.

00:50:37.000 Indonesia.

00:50:38.000 Yes, Indonesia.

00:50:39.000 Well, there's a term called island dwarfism, and it applies to primates sometimes.

00:50:46.000 It applies to elephants.

00:50:47.000 You get these tiny pygmy elephants that are on islands, but not to lizards.

00:50:52.000 Lizards get bigger.

00:50:54.000 If you leave lizards on an island, they actually grow.

00:50:57.000 That's why you have the Komodo dragons. 1.00

00:50:59.000 Like big fucking crazy lizards like crocodiles and shit. 1.00

00:51:02.000 They actually grow when they're on islands. 1.00

00:51:05.000 Yeah.

00:51:05.000 And the reason?

00:51:06.000 Because everything can't get away.

00:51:08.000 Yeah, so they just eat everything. 1.00

00:51:09.000 They just gang up on bitches. 1.00

00:51:10.000 Just take them out. 0.99

00:51:12.000 If you're on an island with a family of Komodo dragons, good luck.

00:51:16.000 One day they're going to find out they can eat you.

00:51:18.000 They're going to sneak up on you and find out they can eat you. 1.00

00:51:21.000 And if you can't go anywhere because you're on an island, the lizards are always going to win.

00:51:26.000 Strange, isn't it?

00:51:27.000 Yeah.

00:51:30.000 What are you looking at?

00:51:31.000 Oh, the Komodo dragon.

00:51:33.000 Oh, what about it?

00:51:35.000 I was expecting a picture up there.

00:51:36.000 He's looking for it.

00:51:37.000 Have you never seen it?

00:51:38.000 Oh, I've seen it.

00:51:39.000 You know what it is.

00:51:39.000 It was on...

00:51:40.000 007 had one.

00:51:41.000 Did he really?

00:51:42.000 Did he have a pet?

00:51:43.000 Yeah.

00:51:43.000 No, it was in the movie.

00:51:44.000 Which, the last one?

00:51:45.000 The last one where they were in...

00:51:46.000 The Daniel...

00:51:47.000 What is his name?

00:51:48.000 Daniel Craig.

00:51:49.000 Yeah, where were they?

00:51:50.000 They were in Hong Kong or at a casino.

00:51:53.000 There they are.

00:51:53.000 That's it.

00:51:54.000 Evil fucking lizards. 1.00

00:51:56.000 Ugh. 1.00

00:51:56.000 Could you imagine you hear that walking outside your tent? 1.00

00:51:59.000 You wash up on the beach like, don't worry, honey, we have a tent. 0.99

00:52:03.000 Look at that fucking creepy thing. 0.99

00:52:08.000 Probably hasn't changed in forever. 1.00

00:52:12.000 Neat. 0.98

00:52:13.000 Remorseless monster.

00:52:14.000 Fascinating to think that that was the entire Earth, isn't it?

00:52:17.000 Yeah.

00:52:19.000 I mean, that's essentially a dinosaur, right?

00:52:21.000 Right.

00:52:21.000 It's about as close to a dinosaur as you can get, them and crocodiles.

00:52:24.000 How much different is there from a crocodile to a dinosaur?

00:52:27.000 It seems pretty, pretty similar.

00:52:28.000 Narrow.

00:52:30.000 I want one of those.

00:52:31.000 You want a crocodile?

00:52:32.000 No, I want a Komodo dragon.

00:52:33.000 What would you do with it?

00:52:34.000 Would you stand out there in your underwear and take pictures?

00:52:37.000 What would you do?

00:52:37.000 No, I'm afraid to get bitten.

00:52:40.000 No, what a great watchdog.

00:52:42.000 Not really.

00:52:43.000 It's going to eat you.

00:52:44.000 Good watchdogs like their owner. 1.00

00:52:45.000 That thing doesn't give a shit about you. 1.00

00:52:47.000 You want a good watchdog? 0.99

00:52:48.000 Maybe I'll give it away to someone I don't like.

00:52:50.000 Yeah, get a bird.

00:52:52.000 Get something that squawks when people are outside.

00:52:54.000 Get a flamingo or something.

00:52:56.000 I've got two cats and two dogs.

00:52:57.000 That's enough.

00:52:58.000 Peacocks, I guess, make noises. 0.75

00:53:00.000 Hunter S. Thompson used to have them in his place in Woody Creek.

00:53:03.000 When people would come near, the peacocks would go, They make crazy noises, and I'll let you know that people are coming.

00:53:08.000 They're good guards.

00:53:10.000 Or at least alerters, good alarms.

00:53:12.000 Yeah, military macaw too.

00:53:13.000 Yeah.

00:53:15.000 So what other stuff do you think, besides this glutathione, what other stuff do you think that people should be taking on a regular basis that they're not?

00:53:26.000 That's an incredible question.

00:53:28.000 There are a lot of things that we're losing in our water, for instance.

00:53:34.000 We get bottled water.

00:53:35.000 What's in it?

00:53:37.000 Nothing.

00:53:37.000 Filtered water.

00:53:38.000 Filtered water.

00:53:39.000 No minerals.

00:53:39.000 Where are the minerals?

00:53:40.000 Where are the minerals?

00:53:42.000 We're probably all...

00:53:43.000 To some degree, mineral deficient.

00:53:45.000 And one of the ones that the federal government talked about back in the late 90s was C. Everett Koop talked about it, in fact, was chromium.

00:53:54.000 Chromium is an anti-diabetic because it helps insulin work better in your body.

00:54:01.000 It's called the glucose tolerance factor, chromium.

00:54:04.000 And we found that because of our farming technology that we haven't been burning the leftover crop to get the ash, potash, back into the soil, that we're losing a lot of the minerals.

00:54:16.000 Everything we get is filtered, so we lose all the trace magnesium, molybdenum, All the trace elements that we need for very important chemical pathways in our body.

00:54:26.000 So we're running around with a deficiency of function.

00:54:30.000 And the only way to improve upon that function is to replenish minerals.

00:54:34.000 And you can get trace minerals.

00:54:35.000 I mean, it doesn't really matter where you get it as long as it's a high-quality, bioavailable kind of product.

00:54:41.000 There are a lot of minerals that you can't absorb because they're cheap, sulfated ones.

00:54:47.000 Getting the citrate is a lot better.

00:54:49.000 The glucorate and the fumarate are much better forms of whether or not it's zinc or magnesium or so forth.

00:54:55.000 Do you think people should take them in a colloidal form?

00:54:57.000 Like how is that?

00:54:58.000 Colloidal is a suspended one so it gets absorbed a lot better.

00:55:02.000 Instead of taking it in a compressed towel, I don't use anything that's compressed.

00:55:06.000 I use only powdered, encapsuled powder.

00:55:11.000 With a vegetable outer coat on it.

00:55:15.000 When you take colloidal minerals, they collect them from some mineral-rich streams or something like that?

00:55:23.000 How do they do that?

00:55:24.000 If they're artificial, you know, they're making it to...

00:55:27.000 They're suspending it so that it's easily absorbed.

00:55:30.000 There's a cistern in New Zealand where it's about a 50-million-year-old cistern, which has a blend From erosion from the walls of the cistern with natural water, clean, fresh water.

00:55:45.000 And it has a balance in it which gives your water a pH of 8. I don't want to really get into the thing about acid-base kind of chemistry.

00:55:54.000 What does that mean by a pH of 8?

00:55:55.000 A pH of 8 is more alkaline, which is called alkaline water, and the benefits of alkaline water versus acidic water.

00:56:04.000 Acidic.

00:56:05.000 We have ionizers that take regular tap water and make it into smaller molecules.

00:56:09.000 Water is an interesting molecule because it doesn't stay singular.

00:56:13.000 It's just not one H2O water molecule.

00:56:15.000 It clumps together, and a lot of water molecules stick together because of the electrical attraction of it, of each molecule to the next.

00:56:23.000 That's what ionized water is?

00:56:25.000 No, ionized water puts a charge in it to separate it, so it's more absorbable.

00:56:29.000 I mean, I've had patients come into the office and say, Doc, I'm drinking, you know, my eight ounces every two hours, and I'm still thirsty.

00:56:37.000 And it's because they're drinking acidic water which clumps together and doesn't allow for bioavailable water.

00:56:43.000 And you'll start seeing some stuff that says bioavailable water.

00:56:46.000 And it's going to take some time for our Yeah.

00:57:13.000 And I documented they shouldn't be better, but they're better.

00:57:15.000 There's symptomatic complaints of pain and swelling and all that's gone.

00:57:19.000 Why do you say shouldn't?

00:57:20.000 Well, it shouldn't because in my medical training, I don't see, you know, in my training, I've been in practice 32 years and had, you know, 13 and a half years of training with a year and a half of research.

00:57:33.000 It shouldn't happen, but it is happening.

00:57:35.000 So when you go back and you look at the fringe science, you start realizing that on the fringe, it hasn't come full cycle into the core of our belief system that the products have a means, alkaline water has a means by which it changes the acid base of our body,

00:57:55.000 and our body does much better in alkaline situations.

00:57:59.000 Inflammation.

00:57:59.000 If your body is acidic, more inflammatory diseases occur.

00:58:03.000 But you can't prove it.

00:58:05.000 It's supposition.

00:58:07.000 It's, you know, speculation.

00:58:09.000 We don't have enough hard documentation to prove it.

00:58:13.000 And there's a lot of resistance to develop that hard scientific information right now.

00:58:20.000 And with everything that's on the fringe, everything that's new that comes into medicine, there's a lot of resistance.

00:58:24.000 Our cycle in medicine is about 30 years.

00:58:27.000 Because you've got 30 years, doctors who are in practice for 30 years who control everything.

00:58:31.000 And that's old school.

00:58:32.000 The stuff that I used to work on was 20 years old.

00:58:36.000 Doctors nowadays, I mean, I interact with training doctors.

00:58:40.000 And the information that they're running their practices on is so antiquated.

00:58:45.000 It's like, doctors still think that testosterone causes prostate cancer.

00:58:51.000 And there's not a single shred of evidence that proves it.

00:58:56.000 One of our docs from Harvard, Dr. Abraham Morgenthaler, wrote the book, Testosterone for Life, where he spends his academic life at Harvard and in Boston proving that there's nothing to substantiate that testosterone causes cancer.

00:59:12.000 What does cause testicular cancer?

00:59:14.000 Because that's a really common one with men.

00:59:22.000 Genetic predisposition for it, and there's also thermal temperature.

00:59:25.000 There's an increased occurrence in men who have had what they call cryptorchism. 0.97

00:59:30.000 Crypto is hidden testicle, where they haven't had descendant testicles.

00:59:36.000 So if their pediatrician was on time and gave them a shot of HCG, which caused the testicle to drop, then it drops out of the 98-degree temperature that the testicle isn't made to function in. 0.53

00:59:49.000 That's why it hangs out in our testicular, in our ball sack. 1.00

00:59:54.000 What a stupid design. 1.00

00:59:55.000 Well, but there's a reason for it. 1.00

00:59:57.000 They want it to be degrees less so it doesn't induce cancer.

01:00:02.000 Our sperm are germ cells and germ cells have a chemical.

01:00:06.000 Germ cells like cancer and germ cells have a high reproductive rate.

01:00:11.000 What happens when you get fixed?

01:00:13.000 When a dude gets fixed?

01:00:14.000 They cut his cord.

01:00:16.000 Oh, when he cuts cords.

01:00:18.000 What is it called?

01:00:19.000 What's it called?

01:00:20.000 Visectomy.

01:00:21.000 Vasectomy.

01:00:21.000 Thank you.

01:00:22.000 I'm East Coast.

01:00:23.000 You're from where?

01:00:24.000 You say vi?

01:00:24.000 Vasectomy.

01:00:25.000 Oh, vi.

01:00:26.000 I thought it was vi.

01:00:27.000 It's a vi.

01:00:28.000 The snip.

01:00:28.000 Yeah, the snip.

01:00:29.000 I couldn't come up with a word.

01:00:30.000 Right, for vasectomy. 0.85

01:00:32.000 Vasectomy.

01:00:33.000 Is that bad for people?

01:00:34.000 Yeah.

01:00:35.000 No.

01:00:35.000 It's not bad.

01:00:36.000 It stops having kids that you shouldn't have or stops having kids that you would like to have that you can't afford.

01:00:41.000 Right.

01:00:42.000 Absolutely.

01:00:43.000 But is there any medical concerns that someone would have?

01:00:47.000 No.

01:00:49.000 The uncomfortable nature of the procedure psychologically, I think, is worse than the physical aspect to it.

01:00:55.000 So do you think dudes lose, like, when they're shooting blanks, they lose, like, this psychological feeling of actually being potent? 0.93

01:01:03.000 Because they have just dead cum. 0.96

01:01:08.000 There's cowper's pouch and they have the prostate which generate fluids. 0.98

01:01:12.000 It's not just the swimmers.

01:01:14.000 Right.

01:01:15.000 There's definitely something missing to the batch though.

01:01:18.000 Volume is decreased, but there are ways of increasing volume.

01:01:21.000 There's volume that's decreased and you don't have as intense of a...

01:01:26.000 Orgasm?

01:01:27.000 Orgasm or ropes. 0.71

01:01:29.000 So they're not as good.

01:01:30.000 Orgasms are not as good.

01:01:33.000 In the majority of people, there's no effect on it.

01:01:35.000 The majority of people.

01:01:36.000 There's no effect.

01:01:37.000 But what if you're one of those people and you already got snipped?

01:01:39.000 That's right. 1.00

01:01:40.000 And you're like, oh, fuck me. 1.00

01:01:41.000 What if coming goes from the greatest thing ever to like, all right. 1.00

01:01:47.000 Whatever.

01:01:48.000 Then we have to sit on the couch and talk about it.

01:01:51.000 Ah.

01:01:51.000 Then you've got to reattach the plumbing.

01:01:54.000 They can do that, right?

01:01:55.000 They go in there and microsurgically reattach your pecker pump? 0.61

01:01:58.000 Correct. 1.00

01:01:58.000 They could do that, or else they go in and they just suck out the sperm from your testicle with a needle. 1.00

01:02:05.000 Oh, hey! 0.99

01:02:07.000 That doesn't seem like anybody should have to do that.

01:02:10.000 It's an option.

01:02:10.000 So that's the option?

01:02:11.000 They do it every now and again?

01:02:13.000 Every now and again.

01:02:14.000 How long do they have to do that for?

01:02:17.000 That's like a male shot, right?

01:02:20.000 No, if a male has low sperm count and he wants to get his wife knocked up, they'll try with growth hormone, testosterone, zinc, and other ways of trying to stimulate increase in the sperm count.

01:02:33.000 But if they're not producing sperm for whatever reason, they can take a needle, put it in, and... 0.97

01:02:39.000 Aspirate to suck out. 0.99

01:02:40.000 That sounds crazy. 0.97

01:02:42.000 Aspirate is a better word. 0.99

01:02:43.000 It means suck out.

01:02:45.000 Yeah, I would have asked you what aspirate meant. 0.96

01:02:47.000 Don't worry.

01:02:49.000 So yes, aspiration.

01:02:51.000 If you said you had to stick a needle in my thigh, I'd be like, alright.

01:02:57.000 The needle in my shoulder, I'd be like, alright. 1.00

01:02:58.000 But you're talking about pulling something out of my penis. 1.00

01:03:01.000 I'm really not comfortable with that. 1.00

01:03:02.000 How about out of your testicle? 1.00

01:03:04.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:03:04.000 That doesn't seem like a good idea. 1.00

01:03:07.000 That seems like there's got to be a way around that.

01:03:09.000 But that's how we fix infertility when it's not the woman's fault. 1.00

01:03:12.000 Jesus, though. 1.00

01:03:13.000 A fucking needle in your dick together? 1.00

01:03:14.000 Woo! 1.00

01:03:15.000 It happens.

01:03:17.000 Yeah.

01:03:17.000 The adult industry, they use Caberject.

01:03:19.000 They inject in the base.

01:03:21.000 I love how you say the adult industry.

01:03:22.000 Oh, what should I say?

01:03:23.000 Porn? 0.85

01:03:23.000 Well, that's what it is. 0.85

01:03:24.000 Okay, fine.

01:03:25.000 The adult industry...

01:03:26.000 What about the child industry?

01:03:27.000 Is it different?

01:03:28.000 Do you have a different industry?

01:03:30.000 You can't use the term adult if you can't use the term child in the same business.

01:03:33.000 Okay.

01:03:34.000 You know?

01:03:34.000 Like, what is the industry?

01:03:36.000 Is that all adults are? 1.00

01:03:38.000 They just want to fuck? 1.00

01:03:39.000 Like, that's the adult. 1.00

01:03:40.000 The real adult is just, like, living your life. 1.00

01:03:42.000 It's a bunch of bullshit, but this is what you really want to do. 1.00

01:03:45.000 You really just want to fuck. 1.00

01:03:46.000 So that's why we call it the adult industry. 1.00

01:03:47.000 That's a terrible message for the children.

01:03:49.000 That your life is based entirely on sexual pressure.

01:03:53.000 As you get older, what become the two most important things in life?

01:03:57.000 Food and sleep.

01:03:58.000 Okay.

01:03:59.000 Sexual pleasure, of course. 0.54

01:04:01.000 I'm just joking.

01:04:02.000 Just joking.

01:04:03.000 I know you're joking.

01:04:04.000 But it's just funny that you use that word, adult.

01:04:06.000 Adult.

01:04:07.000 People use that. 0.85

01:04:07.000 It's like urban for black people. 0.85

01:04:09.000 You know?

01:04:10.000 It's like they don't want to say black people, but they can say urban, and it means the exact same thing, and somehow or another people just let it slide.

01:04:16.000 So what should I use instead of the adult industry? 0.96

01:04:19.000 The porn. 0.94

01:04:20.000 Okay, porn. 0.97

01:04:21.000 There's nothing wrong with porn. 0.98

01:04:22.000 Yeah, in the porn industry they use a chemical which in fact comes from a woman, PGE, which is prostaglandin E, and they inject it in the base of the penis and it makes them have an erection that lasts for like two to four hours like a baseball bat. 0.97

01:04:35.000 That's such a strange thing. 0.77

01:04:36.000 They take something out of the woman, they inject it into the man, and the man gets rock hard. 0.85

01:04:40.000 Do you think that that is like there in a woman to make a man erect? 1.00

01:04:45.000 Like she has the ability to do that with a chemical? 0.99

01:04:48.000 And the man in his sperm, when he ejaculates in a woman who is pregnant, it can cause her to deliver. 0.94

01:04:53.000 Maybe you, not me. 0.98

01:04:56.000 I'm more careful.

01:04:59.000 So, what is this stuff that a woman has that they take out with a needle? 1.00

01:05:03.000 They don't take it out, but it's a chemical in her.

01:05:07.000 Well, how does she have it?

01:05:08.000 Where is it in her?

01:05:09.000 It's in her body.

01:05:10.000 It's in her body.

01:05:10.000 Can it come out in her sweat or anything like that?

01:05:12.000 You like pheromones?

01:05:14.000 Yes.

01:05:15.000 I'm not sure, to be perfectly honest.

01:05:17.000 Must.

01:05:18.000 Comes out of her vagina, for sure. 1.00

01:05:19.000 Absolutely, out of the vagina. 1.00

01:05:20.000 That's why we're all attracted to them. 1.00

01:05:21.000 Yeah, it comes out of vagina. 1.00

01:05:23.000 Pugina, not the woman, right? 1.00

01:05:24.000 Well, that's not true.

01:05:26.000 You could be attracted to both, Mr. Gordon.

01:05:28.000 How dare you?

01:05:29.000 Absolutely.

01:05:30.000 How dare you?

01:05:31.000 It's not an either-or situation, sir.

01:05:33.000 I thought this was a free-for-all here. 0.98

01:05:34.000 It is a damn free-for-all. 1.00

01:05:36.000 Yeah, but I mean, that only makes sense, why eating pussy gives guys hard-ons. 1.00

01:05:40.000 Sorry, I had to say it that way. 0.99

01:05:41.000 Right.

01:05:41.000 Look.

01:05:42.000 It's the pheromones.

01:05:42.000 Don't get upset at me, ladies and gentlemen.

01:05:44.000 I'm going to say fellatio, and you go, who are you? 0.97

01:05:46.000 I know her. 0.98

01:05:47.000 Felicio?

01:05:48.000 Felice, yeah.

01:05:50.000 So, Mark Gordon.

01:05:53.000 Absolutely.

01:05:54.000 I do.

01:05:54.000 You're a bad influence.

01:05:56.000 No, no, no.

01:05:57.000 You're a great guy.

01:05:58.000 I'm a semi-professional. 0.98

01:05:59.000 But it makes sense that a woman would have something in her body where the smell of it actually gives a guy an erection, because that absolutely works. 1.00

01:06:06.000 Look at the animals. 0.56

01:06:08.000 The guy gets horny during the estrus, which is the female cycle of an animal, and she's throwing out pheromones.

01:06:14.000 So obviously, gals are throwing out pheromones. 1.00

01:06:16.000 And when you meet, you know, you stand in front of a I'll tell you the man side of it later.

01:06:20.000 When you stand in front of a group of women, there are certain of the women that you're more attracted to than others.

01:06:24.000 There was a study done at UCLA where they were looking at this issue of pheromones.

01:06:28.000 And I apologize.

01:06:29.000 I forget the female doctor's name who did all this research and developed a product which guys can buy. 1.00

01:06:34.000 Of course it was a chick. 0.96

01:06:35.000 It was a chick. 1.00

01:06:35.000 Making money on that smell. 1.00

01:06:37.000 Absolutely.

01:06:38.000 What she found was that... 0.87

01:06:41.000 She took women and she introduced them to guys that were fat, that were lazy, you know, from smoking marijuana, right? 1.00

01:06:48.000 Yeah, those lazy, fat, fucking lazy potheads. 1.00

01:06:50.000 They didn't see them, but they had the shirts from these guys. 1.00

01:06:53.000 So they smelled the shirt to smell the perspiration that was on it.

01:06:57.000 And what happened almost 100% of the time was they were able to pick the guy that was healthy, We're good to go.

01:07:28.000 And that's her pheromone.

01:07:30.000 That's fascinating.

01:07:31.000 $150, I think, for a little bottle.

01:07:33.000 They make a perfume.

01:07:34.000 I think that totally makes sense.

01:07:36.000 I mean, if we know that pheromones exist and you know that when you're, like, really attracted to someone, the intensity, like, when you're touching them and just being near them, it, like...

01:07:46.000 It turns on something, and it absolutely could be pheromonal as well, as physical, as well as pleasure-based and sensitivity.

01:07:55.000 There could be some pheromone exchanges, too.

01:07:57.000 Right, but I think that the pheromones really set you up for everything.

01:08:00.000 Looking at, you know, in...

01:08:03.000 Neuroendocrinology, which is the way hormones work in the brain, which is what I spend most of my time doing.

01:08:09.000 Pheromones trigger pleasurable centers in the brain.

01:08:13.000 You know, we have centers in a libido area, which is another way of saying the sex area of the brain.

01:08:18.000 We have an area that's stimulated by not just testosterone, but estradiol in a recent article that came out of JAMA three, four months ago, and Dr. Abraham Morgenthau was on the news talking about it on Good Morning America or something.

01:08:31.000 And men need estradiol in order to have a fully functioning sexual mindset. 0.75

01:08:37.000 And women need testosterone. 1.00

01:08:38.000 I have a question for you. 1.00

01:08:40.000 Has there ever been anyone so fucking dumb they name their kid libido? 1.00

01:08:44.000 There has to be, right? 1.00

01:08:45.000 There has to be a guy. 1.00

01:08:46.000 It's like, I'm telling you, this kid, all he's going to want to do is fuck. 1.00

01:08:50.000 When Jamie has a chance, you can look up, right? 1.00

01:08:52.000 There must be.

01:08:53.000 There's a libido out there somewhere along the line.

01:08:56.000 It's got to be.

01:08:57.000 You're looking at the names that are out there.

01:08:59.000 Shane, Shane, Starlight, Starbright. 1.00

01:09:02.000 Jesus fucking Christ. 1.00

01:09:04.000 What a mad, mad world. 1.00

01:09:07.000 Yeah.

01:09:08.000 Love that movie.

01:09:09.000 Yeah.

01:09:10.000 So...

01:09:11.000 When we were talking about different things that you do, one of the things that I didn't mention is that you're one of the, I don't want to say a pioneer, but one of the more prominent guys when it comes to understanding the effects of traumatic brain injuries and working with guys,

01:09:28.000 working with boxers, and working with various athletes that have suffered.

01:09:33.000 I know you've worked with a lot of people that I know.

01:09:36.000 Right.

01:09:36.000 How did you get involved in all this?

01:09:38.000 Great question.

01:09:41.000 You know, I've been practicing hormonal modulation therapy since about 1995 and I myself was not feeling so great between the age of 34 and 46. In fact, I was on antidepressant and obese, losing my hair and just not a very happy camper.

01:09:58.000 So I went to a company in Las Vegas and paid him a lot of money in 97 and was diagnosed with having three hormone deficiencies, growth hormone, testosterone and thyroid.

01:10:08.000 And just thinking it was genetic, ended up going on to replenishment treatment.

01:10:14.000 And in my practice, I had started shifting over to hormone modulation that they used to call what they call anti-aging medicine.

01:10:20.000 I turned the coin called interventional endocrinology because I don't think the term anti-aging in medicine is a proper term.

01:10:27.000 For the general masses, it's a great buzzword to get an understanding of what we do in the area of interventional endocrinology.

01:10:35.000 So treating a lot of people with hormone deficiency.

01:10:38.000 In 2004, I'm reading an article out of Turkey about pugilists, boxers, where they had this uncanny high occurrence of growth hormone deficiency.

01:10:48.000 And that I call my epiphany article.

01:10:49.000 I read that and ah, it all made sense.

01:10:53.000 Head trauma creates a situation that leads to hormonal deficiency.

01:10:57.000 So I went back to my population from 1995 to 2004 and started interviewing them again to see who had had accidents.

01:11:07.000 And almost every single person had a very clear-cut motor vehicle accident.

01:11:12.000 In the first book that I wrote, Interventional Endocrinology, Chapter 5 talks about A 17-year-old kid who came to me at 21 with significant mood change, depression, anxiety, isolation.

01:11:24.000 He couldn't gain weight.

01:11:26.000 Turned out he was hormone deficient.

01:11:28.000 And when he was 21 years of age, I go back to him and find out that he had a motorcycle accident and was in a coma for three days.

01:11:37.000 Oh, wow.

01:11:37.000 So I've got kids right now that have had...

01:11:41.000 Motor vehicle accidents, slip and falls, blunt head trauma, assaults that have had developed hormonal deficiency.

01:11:50.000 And you can develop the hormonal deficiency because the head trauma can interrupt areas of the brain that regulate hormone production by the pituitary called the master gland in the brain.

01:12:02.000 There's a regulatory sensor that tests the blood every Microsecond to see if there's a balance of growth hormone, testosterone, estrogen, and all the hormones in our body.

01:12:11.000 And if there's a deficiency of it, it sends a signal to the master gland, the pituitary, to tell it to increase the production of whatever hormone it perceives as being deficient or low.

01:12:22.000 On the other hand, if it's too high, the same area of the brain called the hypothalamus tells the pituitary to shut down or decrease the production of hormone.

01:12:31.000 So if you're making not enough growth hormone or not enough IGF-1, which is the marker for growth hormone, it'll tell the brain to produce more growth hormone.

01:12:39.000 And the same thing with testosterone.

01:12:42.000 So I started looking at this area since 2004, and the literature was just starting to burgeon with a lot of documentation research that had been done Showing that people who have head trauma have testosterone deficiency number one,

01:12:59.000 growth hormone deficiency number two, thyroid number three, cortisol, which is the adaptive kind of hormone, the stress hormone.

01:13:06.000 And I had one, two, and three.

01:13:08.000 I had growth hormone deficiency, testosterone deficiency, and thyroid deficiency.

01:13:13.000 And in 2007, I had been seeing a lot of people, retired NFL football and rugby and a lot of sports players and boxers like, I can say, James Toney.

01:13:25.000 And they were documented as having hormone deficiency and we went on to ESPN Outside the Line in 2007 and showed their lab results and they talked about how much better they felt when they had their hormones returned to normal levels.

01:13:40.000 Replaced to physiological levels.

01:13:42.000 Not bodybuilder levels, but physiological levels.

01:13:45.000 Which is like 60 milligrams a week versus something like, I hear, up to 400 milligrams a week.

01:13:52.000 Yeah, that's something that people really need to...

01:13:54.000 It's something that people need to understand that if you look at what a bodybuilder is...

01:14:01.000 That's impossible without ridiculous, insane numbers of chemicals that you shoot into your body.

01:14:08.000 It literally is impossible. 0.90

01:14:09.000 And I think people have a bad taste in their mouth or a bad idea about the idea of testosterone because they think, well, if you take testosterone, you're taking a steroid and you're going to become a big giant monster person. 0.98

01:14:19.000 Like, you can't become a big giant monster person unless you're fucking dedicated to crushing your body. 0.98

01:14:25.000 Correct. 0.99

01:14:26.000 When I started doing hormone replacement using testosterone, a lot of patients said, that's a steroid.

01:14:33.000 That's a steroid.

01:14:34.000 They picture you like Dorian Yates, just standing out there on your front porch, flexing.

01:14:39.000 And my response to them was, steroids are what you buy in the corner from Bubba.

01:14:44.000 What I'm giving you is a medication called testosterone.

01:14:46.000 Why is it always Bubba?

01:14:47.000 I don't know.

01:14:48.000 Bubba gets a bad rap. 0.99

01:14:49.000 He fucks guys in prison. 1.00

01:14:50.000 Bubba's always the first guy to fuck in prison. 1.00

01:14:53.000 Well, I've got a limited vocabulary for, you know, the guy selling stuff on the corner. 1.00

01:14:56.000 Yeah, let's call him Lou.

01:14:58.000 Okay, Lou.

01:14:58.000 Crazy Lou.

01:14:59.000 Lou's got the good shit. 1.00

01:15:01.000 He'll get you swole. 1.00

01:15:01.000 So, in the beginning, it was the hormone deficiency and not feeling as... 1.00

01:15:09.000 Able, psychologically, physiologically, and physical. 0.99

01:15:13.000 Diabetes increased, and we're now seeing out of the literature, starting in 2000, that if you're low in free testosterone and 50-year-old male and above, now 50-year-old female and above, you have a higher occurrence of diabetes.

01:15:25.000 So testosterone serves an incredible function, also pain.

01:15:30.000 We found that testosterone also stops inflammation.

01:15:32.000 So people who have joint aches and pains, they go away when they replace your testosterone level.

01:15:38.000 Growth hormone and cognitive function.

01:15:40.000 The real bottom line is we know that head trauma causes hormonal deficiency.

01:15:47.000 We know that hormonal deficiency is associated with depression, anxiety, and all those suicides that we're seeing in the NFL and in the military.

01:15:54.000 In 2012, there were more, there were 364, almost one a day, 64, people in the military who committed suicide.

01:16:05.000 They all had PST, you know, post-traumatic stress syndrome, which is just another form of TBI, traumatic brain injury.

01:16:11.000 Yeah, I believe at the very least it mirrors the amount that are killed in action.

01:16:16.000 It's scary.

01:16:17.000 I mean, that's a scary, scary thing.

01:16:19.000 Well, in 2012, there were more people committed suicide than were killed in action.

01:16:23.000 It was more.

01:16:24.000 Yeah, it was documented by the DOD. But, you know, so the issue is that we do great at diagnosing traumatic brain injury.

01:16:33.000 There are CTs, our PET scans, all these high-tech things, but we fail at treatment.

01:16:37.000 The reason why we fail at treatment is because we haven't put a good composite together of laboratory testing for traumatic brain injury.

01:16:45.000 So what we've developed over the past 10 years is this testing to allow for someone to have their hormones checked To determine if there's a brain source for the deficiency or if the gland, like, you know, the testicles are gone.

01:17:01.000 Of course, you're not going to make testosterone.

01:17:02.000 But if you have healthy young testicles, you should have a chemical in the brain that's directing them to produce testosterone.

01:17:08.000 It's called luteinizing hormone.

01:17:09.000 Well, here comes the big question, if this is all the case.

01:17:12.000 If traumatic brain injuries and concussions and whatnot are causing this decline in the function and...

01:17:19.000 The operation of glands in the body that produce hormones.

01:17:22.000 Should the people who take that stuff be allowed to continue whatever they've done that's made them deficient of all these hormones?

01:17:30.000 So the argument is, like, there's a big issue, I'm sure you know, about it in mixed martial arts.

01:17:35.000 And the big issue in mixed martial arts is testosterone replacement therapy.

01:17:40.000 That a lot of these guys are legitimately showing up where they test low enough where doctors prescribe them testosterone.

01:17:47.000 So the question is, they need this when they're young for one of two reasons, right?

01:17:53.000 Either there's a medical issue, like they could have taken steroids and the steroids could have shut their balls down, or if it's not that, they could have a disease that lowers their testosterone, or if it's not that, it's head trauma.

01:18:05.000 If it is head trauma and their business is head trauma, should they still be engaging in head trauma?

01:18:12.000 Great question.

01:18:14.000 The answer is obviously no.

01:18:17.000 So, if you were, like, say if they had you running the Nevada State Athletic Commission, if you were the guy that had to oversee boxers and mixed martial arts fighters, if they came to you low with testosterone, you would say, well, we're going to get you some testosterone, but...

01:18:31.000 No more fighting.

01:18:32.000 Well, you have to go and do some assessment to see what the damage is.

01:18:36.000 You know, we have some technology that is phenomenal.

01:18:39.000 I mean, if you look up on the internet, DTI MRI, where you can actually see the interruptions of nerve conduction in the brain, of the nerve fibers.

01:18:47.000 You can see the interruption of the axons is what it's called.

01:18:50.000 You can also see scarring.

01:18:52.000 I had a DTI MRI done.

01:18:54.000 It's called tractogram or diffusion tension.

01:18:57.000 That's it.

01:18:58.000 Oh my god, that's insane.

01:18:59.000 Unbelievable technology.

01:19:00.000 I had this done.

01:19:01.000 Oh my god, that's real?

01:19:02.000 That's real. 1.00

01:19:03.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:19:05.000 That image looks like a crazy flower from Avatar. 1.00

01:19:08.000 Yes.

01:19:09.000 So what is this called again?

01:19:10.000 What is the technology?

01:19:12.000 It's called MRI with DTI, Diffusion Tension Imaging, and it follows the flow of water through the neurons.

01:19:20.000 I found my new desktop.

01:19:22.000 Okay.

01:19:22.000 That's my new desktop.

01:19:23.000 I'll send you some.

01:19:24.000 That is incredible.

01:19:25.000 That image is fantastic. 1.00

01:19:26.000 I don't even want to see what my stupid fucking brain looks like. 1.00

01:19:29.000 So anyway, you have a DTI done, and you can actually see calcifications or scars. 1.00

01:19:34.000 Oh my God.

01:19:34.000 And based upon the amount of damage to the brain, you make a decision whether or not the person is at great risk for continuing what he's doing.

01:19:42.000 Wow.

01:19:42.000 There was University of St. Louis, I think, just got another $8 million grant to do DTI, fMRI, And one other study of the brain, which are very definitive for showing deficiency of blood flow from head trauma.

01:19:57.000 You can have areas of the brain lose their blood supply.

01:20:00.000 You can have nerve damage.

01:20:01.000 I've got some great pictures I'll send you where you can actually see the severing of the nerves that connect the frontal lobe to the cortex.

01:20:12.000 So you lose...

01:20:15.000 Decision-making, the ability to do more than one thing at once, multi-taxing.

01:20:21.000 I don't even want to look.

01:20:24.000 My brain is like a messy attic.

01:20:26.000 I don't even want to go in there. 0.58

01:20:27.000 It smells like a body.

01:20:28.000 But there are things you can do to bypass the areas of damage.

01:20:31.000 To fix everything?

01:20:32.000 What can I do?

01:20:33.000 There are things you can do.

01:20:34.000 What can I do?

01:20:34.000 Because I'm definitely damaged.

01:20:35.000 We have a new product that...

01:20:37.000 The more you talk, the more I'm thinking.

01:20:39.000 I've got a problem.

01:20:40.000 We have evoked potential, which is like an EEG of the brain where it follows.

01:20:44.000 You're sitting in front of a computer reading, you're looking at flashing lights, you're looking at things, and it causes electrical patterns in the brain.

01:20:51.000 And there are, quote, normal electrical patterns, and then there's abnormal.

01:20:54.000 The abnormals correlate with different areas of the brain because you've got this net over your head and it's sensing it.

01:20:59.000 It's being used in the military right now by Dr. David Hauger.

01:21:05.000 Crazy Dave, right?

01:21:06.000 Dave.

01:21:07.000 But they're going to be sending me one of the units, so I'll have it in the office so we can see how wonderful your brain's functioning.

01:21:13.000 I'm scared.

01:21:13.000 I don't want to look in there, man.

01:21:15.000 Yeah, but there are things we can do to try and help it.

01:21:17.000 It's done.

01:21:18.000 It's over.

01:21:18.000 Brain transplant?

01:21:20.000 It's crazy.

01:21:21.000 I would like to see what my brain looks like after three shots of tequila.

01:21:25.000 Okay.

01:21:27.000 It probably turns to the Batman logo. 1.00

01:21:32.000 Would you like to see what your brain looks like when it's completely fucked up? 1.00

01:21:37.000 It is right now. 1.00

01:21:38.000 Drown it in vodka and just take a good look at it?

01:21:42.000 Absolutely.

01:21:43.000 Would the fMRI look different?

01:21:44.000 Would you be able to tell if someone was intoxicated?

01:21:46.000 Well, let's see.

01:21:46.000 The one that does the blood flow follows the red blood cells, is the fMRI.

01:21:53.000 The electrical patterns would be interesting to see because alcohol is an anesthetic, so you'll see drop-off in the electrical charge.

01:21:59.000 Is it possible that this technology will evolve to the point where cops could use it to tell if people are fucked up when they're driving?

01:22:05.000 They don't even have to, like, check your breath or any of that. 0.82

01:22:08.000 They just scan you with this little thing real quick, and they look at your brain.

01:22:12.000 In 2100, possibly.

01:22:14.000 Probably, right?

01:22:15.000 Right now, it's a huge piece of equipment.

01:22:16.000 But so was a cell phone.

01:22:18.000 Right?

01:22:18.000 Used to be a big suitcase.

01:22:20.000 Used to have a carry in your car.

01:22:21.000 You remember those days.

01:22:21.000 Oh, this is huge, too.

01:22:23.000 What do you got?

01:22:24.000 HTC. Yeah, see?

01:22:26.000 Good, smart man.

01:22:27.000 Go Android.

01:22:28.000 Keep your money on the winners. 1.00

01:22:30.000 Apple done fucked up. 1.00

01:22:32.000 Fucked up this cell phone game. 1.00

01:22:33.000 I love Apple. 0.92

01:22:34.000 Don't get me wrong. 1.00

01:22:35.000 Because Apple people go crazy when you start talking shit about Apple. 0.99

01:22:37.000 Stock was up today. 0.99

01:22:39.000 It's great.

01:22:39.000 It's a great company.

01:22:40.000 They make awesome operating systems and computers. 0.99

01:22:42.000 However, their phones can suck it. 0.96

01:22:44.000 How about that? 0.99

01:22:46.000 I was with them for a long time.

01:22:48.000 People are tired of me talking about this.

01:22:49.000 I'm sorry.

01:22:51.000 You're getting that anger off your chest.

01:22:52.000 Do you need some couch time?

01:22:53.000 It's not.

01:22:54.000 It's not off.

01:22:54.000 It's still there.

01:22:55.000 Okay.

01:22:56.000 Apple made me go Android.

01:22:57.000 You made me leave with your little skinny screen. 1.00

01:23:01.000 Sons of bitches. 1.00

01:23:02.000 This is the DNA. Yeah, those are sweet phones. 1.00

01:23:05.000 There's so many cool phones.

01:23:06.000 I mean, obviously the Apple phones.

01:23:08.000 I'm just bullshitting around.

01:23:09.000 They're still great, too.

01:23:10.000 iPhones have the best camera, I think.

01:23:12.000 I've never seen a camera that's, like, as easy to use.

01:23:15.000 And when you get, like, megapixels, you know, some people say, you know, this has more, that.

01:23:20.000 At a certain amount, you just want it to look good, right?

01:23:23.000 I mean, when you get into, like, 8 megapixels, how big do you want that picture?

01:23:27.000 Like, what are you doing with that thing?

01:23:28.000 If you want to make a poster.

01:23:30.000 Yeah, you're going to put a billboard up.

01:23:31.000 Yeah, a billboard.

01:23:32.000 Then you need like a high megapixel.

01:23:33.000 But for the most part, a little cell phone camera will do it for you, kid.

01:23:36.000 Yeah.

01:23:37.000 Two megs.

01:23:40.000 You guys, in studying all this stuff, exposed a really sort of a dirty secret in the NFL, in the world of boxing.

01:23:49.000 For a long time, people were able to look at damage that was caused by athletes, whether it's a boxer being punched drunk, and they looked at it almost with a willful ignorance.

01:24:00.000 They're like, oh, you know, I guess you stayed around too long, you know, and so...

01:24:04.000 No one touches it.

01:24:06.000 No one describes it.

01:24:07.000 It becomes pugilistic of dementia, and then that's it, and the guy just fades away.

01:24:13.000 When you start talking about this as a very real cause and effect, how much blowback is there from that?

01:24:19.000 Do people get upset at you for that?

01:24:22.000 They don't get upset at me.

01:24:23.000 They just don't talk to me.

01:24:25.000 Is that what happens when it comes to certain businesses like football players or football teams or hockey teams or something where people take a lot of impact?

01:24:33.000 Do they get upset about these findings?

01:24:34.000 Of course they do because the American pastime is what?

01:24:38.000 Football.

01:24:39.000 Sports.

01:24:39.000 We love sports.

01:24:40.000 Baseball, right?

01:24:41.000 They love it.

01:24:43.000 They're afraid of changing the way the game is played.

01:24:46.000 So, look, you can't do, what is that, Rule 49, where you can't do any side impact?

01:24:53.000 No side impact anymore?

01:24:55.000 Yeah, there was a rule that came out.

01:24:56.000 Rule 49, I don't remember exactly what it is.

01:24:58.000 Well, that just fucked up the YouTube clips.

01:25:00.000 Because those YouTube clips were dudes getting hit from the side flying through the air.

01:25:04.000 That's such a brutal thing when you get hit from the side by a giant man.

01:25:07.000 They're afraid that it's going to change the way the game's played and it won't be as exciting anymore.

01:25:13.000 It most certainly will.

01:25:14.000 I think we have a gladiator mentality.

01:25:17.000 We love seeing people getting hurt.

01:25:19.000 We love seeing the sports that are rough.

01:25:21.000 I took my daughter when she was 11 to a hockey game.

01:25:26.000 It was the New York...

01:25:27.000 What is it?

01:25:29.000 The Raiders?

01:25:29.000 No.

01:25:30.000 The Islanders and...

01:25:33.000 Islanders?

01:25:35.000 Jersey Devils?

01:25:36.000 No, no, no.

01:25:36.000 The ones from New York.

01:25:39.000 The hockey team.

01:25:40.000 Anyway, so she was cheering at 11 when they were checking against the...

01:25:44.000 What is it?

01:25:44.000 The Devils.

01:25:45.000 It's the Devils?

01:25:46.000 That's the Jersey, but there's a New York one.

01:25:47.000 Is it the Islanders?

01:25:48.000 The Rangers.

01:25:49.000 Rangers.

01:25:49.000 It was the Rangers.

01:25:50.000 It was the Rangers.

01:25:51.000 Great game.

01:25:52.000 Absolutely great game.

01:25:53.000 And she was cheering when someone was checked against the wall.

01:25:59.000 Right.

01:26:00.000 Unbelievable.

01:26:01.000 And that's what they do.

01:26:02.000 And then in the middle of the game, they pull off their gloves and they got into this huge fight.

01:26:05.000 It was unbelievable.

01:26:07.000 It was my first time at the rink.

01:26:09.000 Well, the weirdest thing about hockey fights is that it's really assault.

01:26:13.000 Like, you're allowed to assault each other.

01:26:15.000 Because you're not wearing boxing gloves.

01:26:17.000 You're not wearing MMA gloves. 0.97

01:26:19.000 You're beating the shit out of each other bare knuckle. 0.95

01:26:21.000 Like, why is that legal?

01:26:22.000 I mean, all they do is, like, they penalize you a little bit.

01:26:25.000 But you know what's going on.

01:26:26.000 Everybody knows what's happening.

01:26:27.000 The guy's not going to play after he fights anyway.

01:26:30.000 So he has to sit in a box for a little while and cool off.

01:26:32.000 Whoa, you really showed him. 1.00

01:26:34.000 You didn't show him shit, man. 1.00

01:26:36.000 He just got in a fight. 1.00

01:26:37.000 He wants to take a break right now. 1.00

01:26:39.000 The guy just probably broke his fucking hand. 0.99

01:26:41.000 People jump up and they're cheering when the fights occur. 1.00

01:26:44.000 They're so crazy.

01:26:45.000 It's Rule 48. Yeah, we like to watch people try to win. 0.89

01:26:51.000 Guilty of assault.

01:26:52.000 Yeah, during a game a couple years ago, this guy, he was known as a badass, but he got charged and suspended for a long time.

01:26:59.000 Marty McSorley is his name.

01:27:00.000 Oh, yeah.

01:27:01.000 Sure.

01:27:03.000 Wow. 1.00

01:27:03.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:27:04.000 I think that guy was going to do MMA at one point in time. 1.00

01:27:08.000 Sounds like a crazy man.

01:27:10.000 Yeah, man, it's just very weird how that's sort of like, I mean, if baseball players go at it, it's not, you know, it becomes a big deal.

01:27:18.000 You know, bench clean brawl, that becomes a really big deal if baseball players fight on TV. But hockey players are expected to.

01:27:25.000 It's par for the course.

01:27:26.000 It's the game. 1.00

01:27:27.000 Yeah, it's a fucking man's game. 1.00

01:27:30.000 That's why Canadians are so powerful. 1.00

01:27:33.000 That's why also they're so polite.

01:27:35.000 In their sport, a fight could break out at the drop of a hat.

01:27:39.000 It's allowed. 1.00

01:27:40.000 You can't talk shit. 1.00

01:27:42.000 If you're on a basketball court and you start talking shit, you're most likely not going to get punched in the face. 1.00

01:27:47.000 But if you're in a hockey rink, it's most likely that you're going to get punched in the face. 1.00

01:27:51.000 Who was it?

01:27:52.000 Kelly Rudy and the 501 winner.

01:27:56.000 They left Canada and came down to play here.

01:27:59.000 501 winner?

01:27:59.000 No, who was it?

01:28:01.000 Kelly Rudy.

01:28:02.000 Are you asking football questions?

01:28:02.000 No, it's hockey.

01:28:04.000 Oh, I don't know hockey either.

01:28:05.000 Fine.

01:28:06.000 Best one football.

01:28:07.000 Well, a lot of Canadians.

01:28:08.000 With what you're telling me, I would think the Canadians absolutely would come down to the States where it was a little bit more civilized in the brawling.

01:28:14.000 Yeah, but not as nice in the populace.

01:28:17.000 You know, you have a brawling populace that's a polite populace.

01:28:22.000 Which do we have?

01:28:23.000 We're not really brawling. 0.99

01:28:24.000 We're talking shit. 1.00

01:28:25.000 We talk a lot of shit. 1.00

01:28:27.000 And in Canada? 1.00

01:28:27.000 And then we get separated. 1.00

01:28:28.000 We're like, what?

01:28:29.000 Let me go! 0.94

01:28:32.000 I mean, there's very rarely a bench-clearing brawl in our sport.

01:28:36.000 Our sport is baseball, right?

01:28:37.000 Our national sport, allegedly.

01:28:39.000 It's baseball.

01:28:40.000 Even football. 0.99

01:28:40.000 I mean, they hit each other full clip while they're running, but they rarely kick each other's asses. 0.99

01:28:45.000 It seems like you should totally be allowed to kick each other's asses in football, but they don't allow it because it would be too brutal. 0.99

01:28:51.000 Because you look at the size of some of these guys, they took their helmets off and beat the fuck out of each other in the middle of the field, and 80,000 people go, rawr! 0.99

01:28:59.000 It's too gangster, even for America.

01:29:02.000 So football players are not allowed to fight.

01:29:05.000 That's a pretty interesting thing, if you really stop and think about, like, it's just something we culturally accept as being a rule, but it makes no sense that hockey players are allowed to fight, but football players aren't. 1.00

01:29:16.000 That's so stupid. 1.00

01:29:17.000 That's a really dumb rule. 1.00

01:29:19.000 If they both play in the same country, this is retarded. 0.99

01:29:22.000 It doesn't make any sense at all.

01:29:23.000 It's in the rules.

01:29:24.000 That's what football's going to do.

01:29:26.000 They're going to take out all these crazy side hits and put in brawls.

01:29:29.000 That was 48. It was side hit, side tackle.

01:29:32.000 Take that shit out and take the helmets off and start throwing down. 1.00

01:29:35.000 If they added to that, football would go through the fucking roof. 1.00

01:29:37.000 What happened in the beginning? 0.99

01:29:38.000 Would they use the leather...

01:29:40.000 What do they call it?

01:29:41.000 Leather helmets.

01:29:42.000 Leather helmets.

01:29:43.000 Well, those are good too because you can't hit each other as hard. 0.98

01:29:45.000 It's really fucking dangerous. 0.96

01:29:46.000 It's hard to do and you realize you can't run into each other full clip and use your head like a battering ram. 0.99

01:29:51.000 There's pads too.

01:29:52.000 There's actually less instances of brain damage in rugby than there is in American football. 0.99

01:29:57.000 Look at that shit they used to wear. 0.99

01:29:59.000 That's hilarious. 1.00

01:30:00.000 Those little funny, silly pads. 0.93

01:30:03.000 It'd be better if people played like that. 0.94

01:30:05.000 They would get more hurt, for sure, but honestly it would be better because they would realize they can't play the game that way.

01:30:10.000 The way they play it is completely unreal.

01:30:13.000 How dare you.

01:30:16.000 You would realize that you can't just run into each other.

01:30:19.000 That's so preposterous.

01:30:21.000 You think you could just crash into each other and everybody's gonna be fine.

01:30:25.000 Like, that's a recipe for danger.

01:30:27.000 That's a recipe for disaster, just running at each other full clip.

01:30:30.000 But if you force people in a situation where they were bare head, bare head to head, the idea of colliding with another person's head does not seem that cool.

01:30:39.000 Yeah, understood.

01:30:41.000 They think they have some veneer of protection by wearing the helmet.

01:30:44.000 But do you have less protection, actually, when you're wearing a helmet?

01:30:46.000 Because your brain gets rattled around more often because you can take it?

01:30:49.000 That's the point.

01:30:51.000 You've got...

01:30:52.000 I had a patient who...

01:30:55.000 Who was driving a motorcycle up to 405 at 70 miles an hour and he's clipped by a car.

01:30:59.000 He goes up, catapulted, ends up stopping in the fast lane.

01:31:06.000 Oh my god.

01:31:07.000 So I'm sitting there talking to the guy and I said, so what happened next?

01:31:10.000 He says, I woke up in the hospital.

01:31:12.000 I said, so you had head trauma?

01:31:14.000 He said, no.

01:31:14.000 I said, why would you tell me you didn't have head trauma?

01:31:16.000 He says, his helmet wasn't broken.

01:31:20.000 Oh, hilarious.

01:31:21.000 Yeah.

01:31:22.000 His helmet, but he was in a coma for, you know, 12 hours or whatever.

01:31:26.000 Woke up, his legs up here.

01:31:28.000 He's got a broken leg, six broken ribs, broken arm, clavicle broken.

01:31:33.000 And he ended up developing this incredible anger and depression.

01:31:37.000 And the word is anhedonism, which means no sex.

01:31:41.000 He just didn't desire anything.

01:31:43.000 A-N? Anhedonism. 0.93

01:31:45.000 Anhedonism.

01:31:46.000 A-N-H-E-D-I. I'm going to use that from now on. 1.00

01:31:49.000 Thank you, sir.

01:31:50.000 Anhedonistic.

01:31:51.000 Anhedonism.

01:31:52.000 So he developed this no need for sex.

01:31:54.000 And his testosterone, we tested him.

01:31:56.000 His testosterone was zero.

01:31:57.000 Whoa.

01:31:58.000 He was just shut down.

01:31:59.000 So he was ready to die, probably. 0.99

01:32:01.000 Well, there's a lot of problems with not having enough testosterone, depression, kill yourself, suicide, suicide, and suicide.

01:32:06.000 Well, you say zero, but what was his actual level?

01:32:08.000 It was probably 130-something.

01:32:11.000 Really, really low.

01:32:12.000 In the literature, they look at anything less than 320, 400 by some others.

01:32:17.000 Now, when you see the science that goes behind the athletic commissions where they have to do certain tests for drugs and do certain tests for various performance enhancing substances, do you think that they should be testing people's free testosterone?

01:32:35.000 They should be making sure that people are healthy enough to compete?

01:32:39.000 In 2006, I was on ESPN to answer that question.

01:32:45.000 It's very difficult to give someone an elixir of youth and say, don't use it.

01:32:52.000 So if you give someone the opportunity to use testosterone, they're going to tend to abuse it.

01:32:56.000 Right.

01:32:57.000 So it means monitoring them before they play the game.

01:33:00.000 But look at football.

01:33:01.000 How old are you when you start playing Pop Warner?

01:33:04.000 I never played football. 1.00

01:33:05.000 I'm too smart for that shit. 1.00

01:33:06.000 Oh, good. 1.00

01:33:07.000 So the bottom line is...

01:33:08.000 Too little.

01:33:09.000 At what point do you start testing to make sure the hormones are in a normal balance?

01:33:13.000 Right.

01:33:13.000 When do you know?

01:33:14.000 As soon as you possibly can to test them, and then every year you check them to see if they're dropping.

01:33:20.000 Also, you know because they've had documented head-to-head injury, or they've been dinged, and they've got their bell rung.

01:33:30.000 Yeah.

01:33:31.000 It's really—that's the difficulty.

01:33:33.000 The commissions won't allow it.

01:33:35.000 You know, look what happened to Lance Armstrong.

01:33:37.000 Aside from everything else, he had a seminoma cancer of his testicle, and he was put on replacement levels of testosterone, and he was allowed to.

01:33:45.000 But then he got greedy and started on a lot of other things, started embellishing his levels.

01:33:51.000 Oh, really?

01:33:52.000 Yeah.

01:33:52.000 That's what they say.

01:33:54.000 And, you know, a lot of the French Open people have, some of them have been nailed because they get tested.

01:33:59.000 Look what happened to James Toney after fighting Jose in Madison Square Garden.

01:34:07.000 They tested him and they found that his, they said deca, nandrolone teconate, which is a form of testosterone, was 13 and the cutoff was 9. But the testing that they do doesn't detect the drug directly.

01:34:23.000 It's indirect.

01:34:24.000 So our testing technology is really bad.

01:34:26.000 Still bad.

01:34:27.000 Bad.

01:34:28.000 Still bad.

01:34:28.000 But Olympic-level testing is really good, right?

01:34:31.000 But Athletic Commission testing is not quite at that level?

01:34:33.000 Is that what it is?

01:34:33.000 It's the difference between urine testing and blood testing.

01:34:37.000 So it should be blood.

01:34:38.000 It should be blood.

01:34:39.000 I don't care, you know, the, what is it, the league's...

01:34:46.000 The group, the league's...

01:34:48.000 What is it?

01:34:49.000 VEDA? Are you talking about, like, anti-doping?

01:34:52.000 No, it's not the anti-doping.

01:34:53.000 It's the leagues, the ones who protect the players from invasion.

01:34:57.000 Is that what it is?

01:34:58.000 Unions?

01:34:58.000 Players' unions?

01:34:59.000 Is it a players' union?

01:35:00.000 Yeah, I would call it a players' union.

01:35:01.000 Okay, it's a players' union.

01:35:02.000 You know, they protect the player from invasion of privacy by having it urine as opposed to blood.

01:35:07.000 The blood is more accurate.

01:35:09.000 Well, that's one of the things I was going to ask you.

01:35:11.000 I mean, how much of sports today really isn't possible without some sort of performance-enhancing drugs?

01:35:17.000 I think every sport is possible without any enhancement.

01:35:20.000 Possible in the level that you're seeing it today?

01:35:24.000 Yes.

01:35:25.000 I mean, eating right, I mean, if you really want to get critical, if you're eating really well, that should be illegal.

01:35:33.000 Because it's enhancing.

01:35:34.000 Right.

01:35:35.000 If you're taking vitamin supplements, that's illegal because it's enhancement.

01:35:39.000 Protein powders, enhancement, creatine.

01:35:40.000 Protein powders, taking creatine, you're taking ribose, you're taking magnesium, taking calcium, all these things that have benefits.

01:35:48.000 You're taking resveratrol, arginine.

01:35:51.000 It all helps in the body.

01:35:53.000 So these things should be illegal if you follow that trend of thought.

01:35:56.000 You should not be doing anything that puts your capabilities above what the normal level is.

01:36:01.000 But when you see something like the Tour de France specifically, I have heard that the numbers that they achieve in the Tour de France are literally impossible unless you're taking drugs.

01:36:10.000 Blood doping is very common where they take their blood out and they put it back in.

01:36:15.000 Rithropoietin used to be very heavily used, which stimulates your body to produce more red blood cells.

01:36:20.000 Growth hormone was great.

01:36:21.000 Provigil was great.

01:36:23.000 I know because in reading some of the documents that come to me to evaluate cases, you know, a lot of things were being used to enhance their capabilities.

01:36:32.000 Things like DHEA, Mark McGuire, you know, I only used Androstenedione.

01:36:36.000 Right.

01:36:37.000 Now IOC, the International Olympic Committee, doesn't allow for us to use or for the client patients to use DHEA, which comes from Mexican wild yams, natural source phytohormones.

01:36:49.000 Don't let them use pregnenolone.

01:36:50.000 Don't let them use androstenedione, which is now off the market.

01:36:53.000 You can't have androstenedione because it only takes one chemical reaction to make it into testosterone.

01:37:00.000 Terus tribulus, which is a plant-based testosterone natural, that's banned.

01:37:06.000 Tribulus is banned?

01:37:07.000 Tribulus is banned.

01:37:07.000 I thought tribulus was extremely mild.

01:37:10.000 It still has the ability to become testosterone.

01:37:14.000 Terus tribulus.

01:37:15.000 Wow.

01:37:16.000 But isn't it like bioavailability?

01:37:19.000 It's like very small, isn't it?

01:37:20.000 It doesn't matter.

01:37:21.000 It doesn't matter.

01:37:22.000 It's on their list.

01:37:22.000 You look at their list, they've got...

01:37:25.000 That's so crazy.

01:37:26.000 They've got decongestants.

01:37:28.000 They have asthma medication.

01:37:30.000 You have to get three cardinals and the Pope to sign off on you for asthma to use some of the rescue inhalers because they can give you a great energy surge.

01:37:39.000 Well, I know some guys who are on Adderall.

01:37:42.000 They were prescribed Adderall.

01:37:43.000 They were told they have to get off it to compete in MMA. Yeah.

01:37:47.000 So they have ADD. And believe it or not, there are articles that talk about testosterone deficiency and ADD. Wow.

01:37:54.000 Also in women with anorexia nervosa who have failed antidepressant therapy, checking for testosterone deficiency.

01:38:01.000 It's such a good point that you were making about that vitamins should be illegal, that food should be illegal, healthy nutritional supplements should be illegal, because they all make you perform better.

01:38:12.000 Correct.

01:38:12.000 So, at what point in time are we going to have something, like, what we're dealing with now is like they're injecting steroids and they're doing hormones, but when they start getting into genetic engineering of human beings, like, at what point in time are athletics going to be even valid anymore?

01:38:28.000 If you're engineering super people, Is there going to come a point in time, do you think?

01:38:34.000 I mean, you're a scientist, you're a doctor, you're a smart dude.

01:38:37.000 When you're looking at the future of human enhancement, and not just on a chemical level or hormonal level, like you're educated in, but when you look at it on a technological level.

01:38:48.000 Yeah, I think these genetic enhancements are for specific use, like military.

01:38:54.000 Like if you want to be the Hulk.

01:38:55.000 If you want to be the Hulk or you want to be Captain America.

01:38:58.000 Could you imagine if they decide to do that?

01:39:00.000 We develop an entire army of Hulk dudes that literally are built like the Hulk.

01:39:06.000 They're bulletproof. 0.99

01:39:07.000 They have fucking spider skin that's mixed with spider silk. 0.99

01:39:12.000 They're already developing that? 1.00

01:39:14.000 Spider-Man, yeah.

01:39:14.000 Well, they're developing an artificial skin that they're trying to create that's mixed with spider silk.

01:39:21.000 So it becomes literally bulletproof.

01:39:23.000 You'd have bulletproof skin.

01:39:25.000 Giant, huge Hulk dudes. 0.92

01:39:27.000 You tell me some guys in Nebraska, sitting on a farm, thinking about going over to Iraq and kicking some ass, and they go, listen man, I'm thinking about doing the Hulk program. 1.00

01:39:35.000 Man, you know that shit's permanent. 0.99

01:39:37.000 Hey man, so I'm a Hulk forever. 1.00

01:39:39.000 Whatever, I'll be bulletproof. 1.00

01:39:41.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:39:41.000 If they offer that to soldiers, we're going to have a real problem on our hands. 1.00

01:39:46.000 We're going to have an army of Hulks. 1.00

01:39:49.000 Better do away with war. 0.99

01:39:51.000 Yes.

01:39:51.000 Do you think that would work?

01:39:53.000 That army of hulks would have everybody backing off?

01:39:55.000 It's like we haven't had nuclear war since 1947. Who hasn't?

01:39:59.000 Well, we haven't.

01:40:00.000 We haven't had nuclear war.

01:40:01.000 47?

01:40:01.000 Yeah, wasn't it?

01:40:02.000 When we dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

01:40:05.000 Was that 47?

01:40:06.000 No.

01:40:06.000 45?

01:40:07.000 45, yeah.

01:40:07.000 45. The Enola Gay.

01:40:10.000 If you stop thinking about that, that's a terrible thing to say.

01:40:14.000 You should have just kept it to yourself.

01:40:16.000 You're that guy.

01:40:17.000 Hey, I have to.

01:40:19.000 This is free-for-all.

01:40:20.000 It is certainly that.

01:40:21.000 I want a straw with some paper wads.

01:40:23.000 I mean, it's literally been the last time anybody used a nuclear bomb.

01:40:28.000 Against someone.

01:40:29.000 Yeah, and we all have them.

01:40:30.000 It's kind of, maybe that's what's going on with the genetic engineering.

01:40:33.000 We all become the Hulk and everybody just stops.

01:40:36.000 That makes sense. 0.99

01:40:38.000 The fuck it does? 0.99

01:40:39.000 That makes sense. 0.99

01:40:40.000 Do you worry, though, that there is going to come a point in time where there's not going to be natural humans?

01:40:45.000 Or do you think it's exciting?

01:40:46.000 Do you think that it could be in some way dangerous that we genetically engineer human beings to live to be a thousand years old and be able to jump over buildings?

01:40:55.000 Or do you think...

01:40:56.000 How do you feel about it?

01:40:57.000 I think that we've...

01:41:00.000 We've been modified already.

01:41:01.000 We've been modified.

01:41:03.000 And with what we eat, we modify ourselves.

01:41:05.000 What we've been injected with, we've modified ourselves.

01:41:08.000 And I think that there are, let's see, there's a center that's using stem cells to generate new heart valves.

01:41:17.000 So we're going to have natural artificial replacement organs.

01:41:21.000 So you go to the bank and you press new heart or you press a longer schlong.

01:41:27.000 Or whatever the situation is.

01:41:30.000 We'll have medications to make our heart work better, our lungs breathe better, to bring in more oxygen if we have any oxygen left in our atmosphere.

01:41:38.000 You know, it's dropped from 21% to, I think, or 22% down to 19%.

01:41:43.000 Our oxygen level in our atmosphere has dropped?

01:41:46.000 Has dropped.

01:41:46.000 Since when?

01:41:49.000 Millions of years it's dropped.

01:41:51.000 Over millions of years.

01:41:52.000 They found...

01:41:53.000 Oxygen trapped in ice that's dated back millions of years and they measured the amount of oxygen in it.

01:42:01.000 Wasn't that part of the theory why dinosaurs were so large?

01:42:05.000 Higher oxygen concentration?

01:42:07.000 Yeah, there's a higher oxygen concentration and that they were able to move through the atmosphere more easily because their considerable bulk would have been not so much of an impediment to movement with this different atmosphere.

01:42:19.000 Yeah, I haven't read that.

01:42:20.000 Again, a theory that I fucking glanced over and then I'm spouting out as if I wrote the paperwork myself.

01:42:28.000 So, over millions of years, the oxygen level has been dropping. 0.94

01:42:32.000 And also, you know, we're killing down the regenerating sources in the Amazon.

01:42:37.000 Right.

01:42:37.000 Right?

01:42:38.000 We're killing all the, you know, the trees and everything to build houses.

01:42:42.000 Right.

01:42:42.000 The Amazon thing is really depressing.

01:42:44.000 I was listening to something on the way over here where it was a discussion of the Peruvian rainforest and their collection of rubber in the early 1900s and how this population of indigenous people went from 45,000 down to 3,500 in little over five,

01:43:04.000 six years.

01:43:05.000 They made these people go out and collect rubber for them and they gave them a quota that they had to reach and every Ounce that they were under that quota, they would take out in human flesh.

01:43:15.000 So they would chop people's arms off or put them on a scale. 0.94

01:43:19.000 They slaughtered these people and scared the fuck out of them. 0.95

01:43:22.000 They're the same sort of techniques that Cortes used on the Aztecs way, way back in the day. 0.95

01:43:29.000 So it's literally the same sort of practice, but it happened in the early 1900s. 0.99

01:43:34.000 Terrifying shit. 1.00

01:43:36.000 The amount of, like, evil shit that goes on in the rainforest. 1.00

01:43:39.000 They just chop it down. 1.00

01:43:41.000 Make a profit.

01:43:43.000 Chop it down. 0.98

01:43:44.000 There's plenty of it.

01:43:44.000 Keep going.

01:43:45.000 Until one day they're going to get to a point in time where they realize they just hacked down a hundred million thousand-year-old trees, and it's going to take a thousand years for them to grow back, and now we're fucked.

01:43:54.000 Fortunately, people like Bono and Cher have been buying up large blocks of territory in the Amazon.

01:44:00.000 Could you imagine if the earth has to be saved by Bono and Cher?

01:44:04.000 Together they save the earth.

01:44:07.000 Who else?

01:44:08.000 With Google.

01:44:08.000 They get together with Google and they save the earth.

01:44:11.000 They've been buying up the rainforest?

01:44:12.000 Yep.

01:44:13.000 How cheap is the rainforest that they could just buy it up like that?

01:44:17.000 Who's selling it to them? 1.00

01:44:19.000 Who owns that shit? 1.00

01:44:20.000 The government. 1.00

01:44:21.000 Do they really own it? 1.00

01:44:22.000 Shit. 1.00

01:44:22.000 It's the earth. 1.00

01:44:23.000 Earth's place.

01:44:26.000 The idea that people are just going to keep doing that until they run out of forests is absolutely terrifying.

01:44:30.000 Yeah.

01:44:31.000 Yeah.

01:44:31.000 Because it could happen.

01:44:32.000 And all the medicinal things that we're losing because they say there are species of plants and animals, insects and bugs and so forth that have been decimated, removed off the planet, extinct.

01:44:42.000 Yeah, it's terrifying stuff.

01:44:44.000 You know about the Brazilian wandering spider that they've discovered in the Amazon?

01:44:49.000 No, I've never seen it wandering.

01:44:51.000 They're doing research on it to try to convert it into a Viagra-type medication because the sting of the wandering spider injects a type of venom that causes you to have... 0.99

01:45:08.000 Insanely painful erection, and if you survive, which a lot of people don't, it's a very toxic spider, but if you do survive, your penis will be broken forever. 0.95

01:45:16.000 It'll never work again. 0.95

01:45:17.000 That it somehow or another interacts with your body's production of nitric oxide, and it just over floods your system with it, and your whole body goes into this incredibly painful, shocking state of muscle contraction, including your...

01:45:34.000 Really?

01:45:35.000 And then it breaks.

01:45:35.000 Like a ballpark frank.

01:45:38.000 You know, they plump when you cook them.

01:45:40.000 That's going to happen.

01:45:41.000 Pop! 0.87

01:45:42.000 Boom! 0.99

01:45:43.000 By just an evil spider.

01:45:44.000 So they're trying to convert this thing into some sort of a Viagra thing.

01:45:48.000 You just used two Sudafed.

01:45:51.000 Sudafed works?

01:45:52.000 To counter it.

01:45:53.000 Oh.

01:45:54.000 Are you joking?

01:45:55.000 Nope.

01:45:56.000 What do you mean?

01:45:57.000 Sudafed will counter the effect.

01:45:58.000 Of the Brazilian wandering spider?

01:46:00.000 Of like Viagra.

01:46:01.000 If you tell me it's working the same thing as Viagra, Levitra, Silas.

01:46:04.000 I don't think it works the same.

01:46:05.000 I mean, obviously, it's way more potent.

01:46:07.000 Yeah.

01:46:07.000 But it still blocks the same thing.

01:46:09.000 Okay.

01:46:09.000 So if you do that, what do you take?

01:46:12.000 And how much?

01:46:12.000 You take Sudafed.

01:46:14.000 But what is the...

01:46:15.000 I think it's 30 milligrams per tablet, and it's two tablets.

01:46:19.000 But what is Sudafed?

01:46:20.000 It's decongestant.

01:46:22.000 It reverses...

01:46:23.000 No, no, no.

01:46:23.000 I mean, like, is there a chemical name for Sudafed?

01:46:26.000 Pseudoephedrine.

01:46:27.000 Pseudoephedrine.

01:46:28.000 Ephedrine.

01:46:28.000 Oh, okay.

01:46:29.000 So it's like a speed.

01:46:30.000 So Sudafed is like a speed, sort of?

01:46:32.000 Yeah, it causes the blood vessels to do this.

01:46:35.000 Viagra causes it to do this. 0.99

01:46:36.000 This causes it to do this.

01:46:37.000 Wow. 0.93

01:46:38.000 So if you take that sort of speed stuff after you take Viagra, your unbelievably painful erection will go down. 0.97

01:46:44.000 Correct.

01:46:45.000 And it's called priapism. 1.00

01:46:47.000 Those poor bastards. 1.00

01:46:48.000 Sometimes they have to get their penises drained. 1.00

01:46:51.000 Ouchie, wah-wah. 1.00

01:46:52.000 It's because they got crazy, right? 0.93

01:46:53.000 They went too nutty. 0.86

01:46:54.000 Too much.

01:46:55.000 You got too crazy. 0.99

01:46:56.000 You got that 10-hour boner, son. 0.99

01:46:59.000 Now you're not so happy. 1.00

01:47:00.000 People are so stupid, though. 1.00

01:47:01.000 They can order as many cheeseburgers as they want. 1.00

01:47:04.000 I want five.

01:47:06.000 Five cheeseburgers. 1.00

01:47:07.000 If you just give them a bottle of this crazy Brazilian wandering spider dick pill and they take that shit home, they're just going to suck down the whole bottle. 1.00

01:47:14.000 People are nutty. 1.00

01:47:15.000 Who'd you read that? 0.99

01:47:16.000 Scientific American?

01:47:17.000 I know it because it's in my heart.

01:47:19.000 Because I'm very intuitive and I'm a healer.

01:47:23.000 I'm out there holding hands of people and healing them.

01:47:26.000 I met a dude once who told me he was a healer.

01:47:28.000 I walked away.

01:47:30.000 I was like, we're not talking anymore, dude. 1.00

01:47:32.000 You're not a fucking healer. 0.99

01:47:34.000 I'm a healer. 1.00

01:47:35.000 Basically a healer.

01:47:37.000 Have you ever had anybody try to heal you?

01:47:38.000 Mark Gordon.

01:47:40.000 No chick stories.

01:47:41.000 No.

01:47:42.000 Settle down.

01:47:43.000 It's not.

01:47:43.000 It's not that kind of show.

01:47:45.000 No, I never had anyone try to heal me other than an MD. Ah, well then you're a smart man.

01:47:50.000 And a psychiatrist and a bottle of scotch.

01:47:54.000 Scotch doesn't work.

01:47:55.000 As long as you have that glutathione nearby.

01:47:57.000 Glutathione?

01:47:58.000 Hormone replenishment? 0.70

01:47:59.000 Keeping my hormones.

01:48:00.000 I lost.

01:48:01.000 I was...

01:48:02.000 At the beginning of this whole sojourn that I went on from being diagnosed with a hormone deficiency, I weighed 178 pounds, 21% body fat.

01:48:10.000 18 months later, I was 214 pounds at 9 to 10 pounds, 9 to 10% body fat.

01:48:16.000 Wow.

01:48:17.000 Because the thyroid deficiency helped me to gain all this weight. 0.98

01:48:23.000 Do you think that the social stigma that's attached to people cheating in sports and steroids that keeps people from exploring the idea of hormonal replacement, there seems to be a stigma behind it, like the idea of taking testosterone or whatever the fuck you're taking, 0.98

01:48:38.000 growth hormone.

01:48:39.000 I think it's a medical issue where the medical community as a whole has taken this position of demonizing Testosterone and growth hormone and all the hormone and also saying that they don't really need to be replaced.

01:48:59.000 7,000 articles in my library on this new book that I'm working on for head trauma, where almost every single one has a positive statement to make about how it improves mental functioning, how it improves depression, anxiety, and how it improves personal interactions,

01:49:18.000 sexual drive, physical stamina, and so forth and so on.

01:49:21.000 And you get a number of articles that come out to refute it.

01:49:25.000 Because it just doesn't fit in the social, cultural design that is being made for us.

01:49:32.000 And the articles that come out to refute it, you're talking about scientific articles.

01:49:35.000 Scientific articles.

01:49:36.000 What's the basis of their argument against it?

01:49:38.000 Well, if you really read close, their scientific study, like the one that came out recently, you probably saw.

01:49:45.000 It was in, I think, New England Journal of Medicine, or the JAMA. Where it said that people who take testosterone after they've had a cardiovascular event, heart attack or something, or had a stint put in or had open heart surgery, that they die at a couple of percents greater than the people who don't use it.

01:50:05.000 But if you looked at the study, it was a flawed study.

01:50:08.000 It was a floss study, and it was spun so that it would put more fear into people about testosterone.

01:50:16.000 Do you think that that's done on purpose?

01:50:19.000 Do you think that this is something like they say, okay, what is the angle where we can attack testosterone?

01:50:23.000 Well, you have this angle.

01:50:25.000 You could say, we have this one test, and it could be interpreted erroneously this way.

01:50:29.000 So let's do that and pretend it's under good faith.

01:50:31.000 Correct.

01:50:33.000 So there are...

01:50:34.000 And academicians is one that I interact with at UCLA who were reviewed and wrote a little article, a little statement on how flawed this study was.

01:50:43.000 And, you know, there are people coming up that people can become famous for either developing something or refuting something that was developed. 0.98

01:50:51.000 You know, just an equal amount of people want to hear that what you developed is bullshit. 0.76

01:50:58.000 Just as mad as people, there's an equal amount of people who want to hear that what you developed is beneficial. 0.99

01:51:03.000 We don't want to hear that.

01:51:04.000 When it comes to science and medicine, we don't ever want to believe there's ego involved.

01:51:08.000 We just don't.

01:51:09.000 We don't want to hear it.

01:51:10.000 Yeah, right. 1.00

01:51:10.000 People fight that like they fight that daddy's an asshole. 1.00

01:51:14.000 If you found out that daddy really was an asshole, you know, you're like, God damn it. 1.00

01:51:18.000 I was holding out hope that daddy wasn't an asshole. 1.00

01:51:20.000 Why is that? 1.00

01:51:21.000 Human nature.

01:51:23.000 It's just human nature.

01:51:24.000 We don't ever want to think that companies would compete knowing that the result would be that you might take something effective out of the market just because you're trying to profit, but people could benefit from it.

01:51:33.000 I know that there are congressional laws behind growth hormone that makes it illegal for any doctor to dispense it for, quote-unquote, anti-aging.

01:51:44.000 Well, see, you know, why does it make it illegal for anyone to dispense it for any reasons if it's effective in enhancing health?

01:51:52.000 But a colleague of mine who sees a lot of people from the government in Washington, a lot of them are on growth hormone. 1.00

01:51:59.000 Of course they are, the old fucking creepy bastards trying to live forever and shut everybody else down. 1.00

01:52:04.000 That's right. 1.00

01:52:04.000 It's like the Constitution states that whatever Congress passes, they have to use, too. 1.00

01:52:10.000 But they've exempted themselves from the new healthcare laws.

01:52:14.000 Well, there's just a lot of really weird rules.

01:52:16.000 Like, there has to be something grossly wrong with you for you to be prescribed something that could be beneficial.

01:52:21.000 Like, you know the story behind ProVigil.

01:52:23.000 Sure.

01:52:24.000 You know, when ProVigil first came along, they were trying to make a drug that enhances cognitive function.

01:52:30.000 And the government was like, no, it's got to cure a disease.

01:52:34.000 And they went, okay, narcolepsy. 0.97

01:52:37.000 So they use it for fucking narcolepsy, but really what it is is a performance-enhancing drug for mental acuity. 0.99

01:52:43.000 But how crazy is that? 0.99

01:52:45.000 You can't say that.

01:52:46.000 You can't say, well, we've got something that makes you think better.

01:52:50.000 Are you stopping the disease?

01:52:52.000 If you're not, stop right now.

01:52:54.000 What you have is illegal.

01:52:57.000 Well, they found a use for provigil and nuvigil that's outside of narcolepsy, and it's called workplace fatigue.

01:53:05.000 And they gave it what's called an ICD-9, which is the International Classification of Disease Coding.

01:53:11.000 Dude, I got a disease.

01:53:12.000 Yeah, you've got, you know, because you work so late.

01:53:16.000 Yes, I have a disease.

01:53:17.000 The morning you wake up and you're fatigued.

01:53:19.000 I need a provigil.

01:53:20.000 How many scripts do you want of it?

01:53:21.000 Those are probably not good to eat every day though, right?

01:53:24.000 No.

01:53:25.000 Tim Ferriss was on the podcast talking about that, in fact, and he said there's no biological free lunch.

01:53:31.000 Correct.

01:53:32.000 That one seems...

01:53:33.000 You always have to pay.

01:53:34.000 It seems like it works a little too well to be safe.

01:53:36.000 Well, new vigil, cheaper, and also smoother.

01:53:40.000 Really? 0.99

01:53:41.000 Well, New Vigil is actually the only shit that I've tried. 0.99

01:53:43.000 But it's pretty shocking how well that stuff works. 0.97

01:53:46.000 You almost are reluctant to talk about it.

01:53:48.000 How much is each pill?

01:53:49.000 I don't know.

01:53:51.000 150?

01:53:52.000 150 milligrams?

01:53:53.000 Or money-wise?

01:53:54.000 I don't know.

01:53:55.000 It's like $20 to $25 a pill.

01:53:58.000 How much is Levitrocylis and Viagra now?

01:54:00.000 I used to buy it because I have a pharmacist's license.

01:54:04.000 Seven bucks, eight bucks? 1.00

01:54:04.000 Because you wanted a hard dick. 1.00

01:54:05.000 That's why you bought it, goddammit. 1.00

01:54:06.000 Absolutely. 0.90

01:54:07.000 Because you had a pharmacist's license.

01:54:09.000 Why didn't you buy birth control pills while you're out?

01:54:14.000 You didn't need those, all right, fella?

01:54:16.000 I personally don't take birth control pills.

01:54:18.000 Yeah, I wouldn't either.

01:54:19.000 I think it's a bad idea.

01:54:20.000 Just let nature run its course.

01:54:22.000 Absolutely.

01:54:22.000 Get pregnant.

01:54:23.000 If you get pregnant, be the first. 1.00

01:54:24.000 Absolutely.

01:54:26.000 There's a lot of reluctance to talk about ProVigil and NuVigil.

01:54:30.000 In fact, I had a guy that's from MAPS, the multidisciplinary psychedelic studies group, wasn't going to tell the audience that he was on ProVigil while the show was on.

01:54:41.000 I was like, why would you hide that?

01:54:43.000 He's like, well, it just seems like...

01:54:44.000 He goes, I flew here.

01:54:45.000 I was very tired.

01:54:46.000 I go, it's a totally legitimate reason to take it.

01:54:49.000 And it's not a bad thing.

01:54:50.000 You're obviously not, it's not like you're drunk.

01:54:52.000 It's not like you're out of control.

01:54:53.000 You're functioning totally normally.

01:54:55.000 Like, why be ashamed?

01:54:56.000 And he wasn't really ashamed, but he was a bit concerned about the, like, people would not take him seriously.

01:55:02.000 Oh, the guy wasn't even sober when he was on the show.

01:55:04.000 You know, oh, that's what it is.

01:55:05.000 You're doing scientific studies.

01:55:07.000 You're not just using it as an excuse or a crutch.

01:55:09.000 So he was a little bit reluctant, which I thought was really fascinating.

01:55:12.000 But it's not speed.

01:55:13.000 No, no, it's not at all.

01:55:15.000 It doesn't, you know, warp your cognition, your brain.

01:55:19.000 Talking rapidly and smoking cigarettes and, you know, tremors.

01:55:23.000 Yeah, that can be a real issue with people, huh?

01:55:26.000 This stuff doesn't do it.

01:55:27.000 I've seen people that have had real problems with that Adderall stuff, where they just get whacked out.

01:55:32.000 You know what it is?

01:55:33.000 They can't stop.

01:55:33.000 What?

01:55:35.000 Methamphetamine.

01:55:36.000 Adderall is methamphetamine.

01:55:37.000 Adderall is methamphetamine.

01:55:38.000 Listen, I hate to interrupt here, but I have to pee.

01:55:41.000 I want to keep this show going, but I have to pee.

01:55:43.000 So, Jamie, please talk to him about meth.

01:55:45.000 Okay.

01:55:46.000 I've taken Adderall before.

01:55:47.000 I took it once, and I wanted to do some art projects.

01:55:51.000 And I'd never taken it.

01:55:52.000 A friend gave it to me, so I took a time-release capsule, hoping that it would just give me a little dink.

01:55:59.000 But it kept me up for two days.

01:56:01.000 I felt like I was poopy all day.

01:56:03.000 Yeah.

01:56:05.000 You know, I... Restricted my own license, my own prescribing license.

01:56:10.000 So I only do Class 3. You know, they have Class 1, you know, heroin and Quaaludes and whatever else.

01:56:18.000 And two is Adderall.

01:56:21.000 And I restricted my license.

01:56:22.000 I had so many people coming in thinking that they can just get Adderall because they're asking for it.

01:56:27.000 And I'm very, very strict on how I dispense stuff.

01:56:30.000 I try not to dispense any medications that I don't absolutely have to.

01:56:35.000 And I find that a lot of times that when you correct the underlying hormone deficiencies that the person gets better, their cognition, their energy level improves.

01:56:43.000 In fact, in traumatic brain injury, the number one symptom across all the studies is fatigue.

01:56:50.000 And the minute you correct their hormones, the fatigue's gone.

01:56:53.000 I had, you know, initially a lot of people coming in from the military.

01:56:56.000 The military likes using things like Adderall and ProVigil and NuVigil.

01:57:02.000 NuVigil and ProVigil, they work very well without causing a lot of side effects, but methamphetamine, the silliest thing that I have is patients who come in on a multitude of anti-psychotic drugs like antidepressants and so forth, and because they're on so much to control how bad they feel,

01:57:19.000 They're fatigued and so the doctors counters it with Adderall and then adds another drug because they can't sleep at night called Tracodon so they can sleep.

01:57:27.000 Here's the question though.

01:57:28.000 Is there ever going to come a point in time where they can engineer the perfect blend and you take something and everything just works perfect?

01:57:35.000 I mean and if we're enhancing our bodies in any way with new chemicals and new medical innovation Do you think there's going to be, I mean, maybe this is just, they're just not that good at it yet, but one day they're going to have this one pill and you take it and boom!

01:57:47.000 Yeah, I don't think there'll be just one pill.

01:57:49.000 I think there'll be one pill for people like you and one pill for people like me because we're so genetically diverse and biochemically diverse that it would be nice to have one pill fits all, but that's...

01:58:01.000 It's impossible.

01:58:02.000 It's impossible, right.

01:58:03.000 But do you feel that there will be some sort of conditions like that in the very near and foreseeable future?

01:58:09.000 Yeah.

01:58:09.000 You know, they're working on a, I don't know if you remember, I think it was Star Trek No.

01:58:13.000 2 with Bones is walking through the hospital in San Francisco and he hands a pill to a woman who's getting ready to have a renal kidney transplant and she takes it.

01:58:22.000 And our kidneys start functioning again.

01:58:24.000 We're going to be finding medications that turn the genetic code on for different areas.

01:58:30.000 And that's why I was asking about your genetics being tested.

01:58:33.000 We have products that are being studied to turn on the genetic matrix.

01:58:40.000 And we have others that stimulate what they call epigenetics.

01:58:44.000 It's not the genes, but it's the things that control the genes.

01:58:46.000 Mm-hmm.

01:58:47.000 So you can influence the genes directly and then you can influence the way the genes are expressed in epigenetics.

01:58:55.000 So I think they'll find once they finalize the...

01:58:59.000 We have the map, but we don't know where we're going with genetic coding.

01:59:02.000 We know that...

01:59:03.000 That's A, C, D, B, B, B, but we don't know what that piece does.

01:59:07.000 We don't know, you know, we know the BR gene for breast cancer.

01:59:11.000 We know this thing for that cancer and so forth.

01:59:14.000 And we're still trying to figure out what that coding means, what each piece of it means.

01:59:19.000 It's a piece of a puzzle.

01:59:21.000 And is it just because it's a new science and it's just an incredibly complex puzzle, but you're confident that eventually they'll have...

01:59:28.000 Eventually they'll have it, and once they learn how to master without creating zombies or something... 1.00

01:59:33.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:59:34.000 Zombies, man. 1.00

01:59:35.000 Come on, dude.

01:59:36.000 Yeah.

01:59:37.000 My kids got me into Walking Dead, so...

01:59:39.000 You're going to quit right after this last season.

01:59:42.000 I already did.

01:59:42.000 You're going to get upset with yourself.

01:59:43.000 Well, for watching it. 0.99

01:59:44.000 The first season was fucking spectacular. 0.95

01:59:47.000 The first season got everybody hooked, and it's just not like that anymore. 0.97

01:59:50.000 No.

01:59:50.000 But when you see something like World War Z or you see something like that, do you worry that one day there's going to be some sort of a...

01:59:57.000 Absolutely.

01:59:57.000 Jesus Christ.

01:59:59.000 Absolutely. 1.00

02:00:00.000 You know the old saying, don't fuck with Mother Nature. 0.99

02:00:04.000 I never heard that. 0.99

02:00:05.000 I grew up in New Jersey.

02:00:06.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:00:08.000 Don't fuck with Mother Nature! 1.00

02:00:10.000 Boston and New Jersey didn't teach us that. 1.00

02:00:12.000 Yeah, got you.

02:00:12.000 Sure, sure.

02:00:13.000 They didn't teach us that in Boston either.

02:00:14.000 No. 1.00

02:00:15.000 Don't fuck with Mother Nature. 1.00

02:00:16.000 You were in parochial school? 1.00

02:00:18.000 Mother Nature was a cunt that made it snow. 1.00

02:00:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:00:20.000 That's what it was.

02:00:20.000 Okay.

02:00:21.000 No, I wasn't in parochial school.

02:00:22.000 So, what's going to happen?

02:00:23.000 I'm not even sure exactly what parochial school is.

02:00:24.000 That's right.

02:00:25.000 What is that?

02:00:26.000 You get paroched.

02:00:26.000 It's a religious school.

02:00:28.000 Oh, no.

02:00:28.000 For wayward boys.

02:00:29.000 Catholic school for one year.

02:00:31.000 No.

02:00:31.000 Sorry.

02:00:32.000 I did Loyola for two.

02:00:34.000 Good Jewish boy.

02:00:34.000 Oh, wow.

02:00:35.000 That's where I got my graduate degree.

02:00:36.000 Congratulations.

02:00:37.000 You made it through.

02:00:37.000 That's like Nam.

02:00:39.000 Absolutely.

02:00:40.000 So tell me.

02:00:40.000 So, you know, my fear is that when we start playing with stuff we don't fully understand, we're going to have a lot of errors or a number of errors.

02:00:51.000 That's why up in Antarctica they have those little compounds so in case anything goes wrong, it's in one little area.

02:00:59.000 Do you listen to the Alex Jones show?

02:01:01.000 No.

02:01:02.000 I know.

02:01:03.000 The FEMA camps in Antarctica!

02:01:07.000 No, this is biotechnology camps.

02:01:09.000 Oh, okay. 0.99

02:01:09.000 Oh, so they have, like, in case the shit hits the fan. 0.99

02:01:12.000 Yeah, cold areas. 0.97

02:01:13.000 You know, it's not like, what was that from, jeez, the zombie movie, the first one that started the whole series.

02:01:22.000 It was from a computer program, computer game.

02:01:26.000 Computer game?

02:01:27.000 Yeah, it came out of a computer game where the...

02:01:29.000 A zombie came out of a computer game?

02:01:31.000 No, no, no.

02:01:31.000 Back off.

02:01:32.000 Hey, easy. 0.98

02:01:33.000 You're the one that's shitty at explaining things. 0.91

02:01:35.000 I just can't remember the name of the program because I don't do games. 0.93

02:01:38.000 Right.

02:01:38.000 I don't play games.

02:01:39.000 Oh, I know what you're talking about.

02:01:42.000 Milo Jojovic.

02:01:43.000 What's the name of that series?

02:01:45.000 Resident Evil.

02:01:46.000 Resident Evil.

02:01:47.000 Resident Evil, yeah.

02:01:48.000 That was a computer game, wasn't it? 1.00

02:01:49.000 God damn, she's hot. 1.00

02:01:50.000 She's like surface. 1.00

02:01:52.000 That chick is surface of the sun hot. 1.00

02:01:54.000 Like scary hot.

02:01:55.000 Like ruin your life hot.

02:01:57.000 She's matured.

02:01:58.000 So anyway, you know, they were playing with trying to enhance the quality of life and they came with a retrovirus that created the problem.

02:02:07.000 So if you look at probably Walking Dead, it's for retrovirus.

02:02:10.000 Well, rage was the stuff that they'd given the chimpanzee.

02:02:14.000 Oh, look at that. 1.00

02:02:15.000 God damn, that's a woman. 1.00

02:02:18.000 That shit makes me nervous. 1.00

02:02:20.000 Women like that make me nervous, man. 1.00

02:02:22.000 I know, man. 1.00

02:02:23.000 I'm too stupid to be around someone like that. 1.00

02:02:26.000 So that was in the movie 28 Days Later, that rage. 1.00

02:02:30.000 They had given it to these chimpanzees and they had developed some sort of a genetic disease, some creation, an artificial disease, and it got out and turned everybody into savages.

02:02:40.000 That was a realistic scenario?

02:02:42.000 Well, they're all potentially realistic when we start screwing around with genetics.

02:02:47.000 It's all potential.

02:02:49.000 It's like, you know, when they were making the atomic bomb, they were afraid to...

02:02:53.000 To light it off because they thought that the ionosphere would be ignited and the earth would burn.

02:02:59.000 Yeah.

02:02:59.000 But they said, we'll see.

02:03:00.000 We'll see.

02:03:01.000 That's right.

02:03:01.000 But that's the attitude they took.

02:03:03.000 That is the attitude they took.

02:03:04.000 They said, oh, retrovirus, you know, it can make zombies out of everybody, but we're not sure.

02:03:08.000 Let's see if it enhances them before it makes them into a zombie. 0.70

02:03:11.000 And it's not like we don't have massive amounts of examples of terrible situations when it comes to like animal life and like spiders and...

02:03:19.000 Tigers in Africa or tigers in Asia and lions in Africa.

02:03:23.000 There's plenty of examples of horrific hells on earth if you happen to be in them. 0.99

02:03:28.000 And if you're an antelope and you're running around and there was no lions and all of a sudden the lion was there, you'd be like, fuck! 0.99

02:03:35.000 Well, if we're running around cities and there's no zombies, and then one day there are zombies, that's gonna fucking suck. 0.99

02:03:41.000 And if it is one of those things where they bite you and then you have it and then you bite someone and they have it and it just spreads like in that fucking World War Z movie? 0.97

02:03:47.000 Yeah, but in Walking Dead... 0.82

02:03:51.000 What's the premise there?

02:03:52.000 That we all already have it in us.

02:03:54.000 That premise is whack.

02:03:55.000 How did it happen? 1.00

02:03:56.000 If I found out that I was going to be a zombie, I'd shoot myself in the fucking head. 1.00

02:04:00.000 What am I going to do? 1.00

02:04:00.000 This band of fucking scallywags they're trotting around the country with, they're going to fix it? 1.00

02:04:05.000 They're not going to fix that. 1.00

02:04:07.000 What season are they in?

02:04:08.000 What season are they in?

02:04:09.000 Season a billion. 1.00

02:04:10.000 Those fucks. 1.00

02:04:12.000 Try watching it on television and get broken up every five minutes with a Tide ad. 1.00

02:04:17.000 Try watching that shit on TV. So you're worried about genetic engineering? 1.00

02:04:22.000 Genetic engineering, yeah.

02:04:23.000 Are you worried about it with foods?

02:04:25.000 Do you eat totally organic and no GMOs and all that stuff?

02:04:28.000 What is this, sir?

02:04:29.000 I brought you one.

02:04:29.000 What is it?

02:04:30.000 No GMO. What is it called?

02:04:32.000 Ratio?

02:04:32.000 Ratio.

02:04:33.000 And is it a protein bar?

02:04:35.000 Yep.

02:04:35.000 24 grams of protein, 12 of net carbs, and 4 of fiber.

02:04:39.000 Nice.

02:04:40.000 And no GMO, no artificial stuff in it.

02:04:42.000 What's the source of the protein?

02:04:45.000 Cum.

02:04:46.000 Hey, easy! 1.00

02:04:47.000 What kind of fucking doctor are you? 1.00

02:04:51.000 There's people out there that are writing this down. 1.00

02:04:54.000 C-U-M for Common Used Materials.

02:04:58.000 Oh, that's rude.

02:05:00.000 Soy.

02:05:00.000 This is soy?

02:05:02.000 I thought soy made your tits grow. 1.00

02:05:04.000 Maybe on you. 1.00

02:05:06.000 Want to try one?

02:05:07.000 Here, Jamie.

02:05:07.000 This is delicious.

02:05:09.000 Yeah.

02:05:09.000 The one that I didn't bring you was the peanut butter and chocolate.

02:05:12.000 No, I thought soy, for real.

02:05:14.000 I thought it made dudes go pregnant. 1.00

02:05:18.000 Doesn't it make your estrogen grow?

02:05:20.000 No, it has a light estrogen.

02:05:22.000 Genistein and diastein is found in soy, but you have to eat a whole bunch of that.

02:05:27.000 That's not true, because Brian Redband, you didn't meet him.

02:05:29.000 He ate like three edamames and he started crying.

02:05:32.000 Oh, jeez.

02:05:33.000 Yeah, he was watching a Meg Ryan film.

02:05:36.000 Oh yeah, that'll do it every time. 0.99

02:05:38.000 Fucking edamame will get you, dude. 1.00

02:05:40.000 Yeah, I love that stuff. 1.00

02:05:41.000 Soy sauce, that shit will get you. 1.00

02:05:42.000 Well, it's a premise that I have is why, and I apologize to any of my Asian brothers and sisters. 0.99

02:05:48.000 Something racist is coming.

02:05:50.000 It's like saying I'm not a racist, but...

02:05:52.000 Here, this is a theory that I'm working on. 0.86

02:05:56.000 Why is it that Asian women have smaller breasts than Western world women? 1.00

02:06:01.000 And the reason is, you look at their soy intake.

02:06:03.000 Soy has these two chemicals, genistein and diastene, which can block the estrogen receptors because it's a weak estrogen receptor, and the strong estrogen is estradiol, which causes breast tissue to grow.

02:06:15.000 So women who are in Asia who migrate to Hawaii have larger breasts, higher estradiol functioning, and they come to the United States even higher because we've got so much xenoestrogens in our food. 0.83

02:06:27.000 That's why we talk with a high voice sometimes.

02:06:30.000 We have a lot of hormones. 0.59

02:06:31.000 The federal government, thank God, just said we had to take out antibiotics from some of our poultry. 0.75

02:06:36.000 We can no longer use in livestock.

02:06:39.000 I think this year it starts or next year.

02:06:41.000 They can't use antibiotics because our resistance to antibiotics is possibly coming from the fact that a lot of our meat has antibiotics in it so that the animals are protected.

02:06:51.000 So it transfers?

02:06:52.000 When an animal gets antibiotics and you get the meat, you get that antibiotic?

02:06:55.000 What do you think it reservoirs?

02:06:56.000 It reservoirs in the tissue.

02:06:58.000 Right, and is it killed off by heat or temperature or anything?

02:07:01.000 You'd have to really cook it.

02:07:02.000 And that's not what we do.

02:07:04.000 No.

02:07:04.000 So, how do you like your...

02:07:06.000 Sorry.

02:07:07.000 How do you like your meat?

02:07:08.000 I like venison.

02:07:09.000 You like venison?

02:07:10.000 Yeah, I'm on a goal.

02:07:11.000 I have a goal.

02:07:12.000 In 2014, by the end of 2014, I want to be entirely game meat in my house.

02:07:17.000 So you're going to go out and...

02:07:18.000 Yes. 0.88

02:07:19.000 Shooting things. 0.96

02:07:19.000 I shot that thing over there. 0.96

02:07:21.000 You shot the skull? 0.99

02:07:22.000 No, I shot the whole deer. 0.69

02:07:23.000 That's what's left.

02:07:25.000 I shot another one this year.

02:07:26.000 They're delicious.

02:07:27.000 It's a thousand times better than any meat that you'd ever get at a supermarket.

02:07:30.000 And on top of that, it's way healthier.

02:07:33.000 It tastes different.

02:07:35.000 When you eat it, you feel energized. 1.00

02:07:36.000 That shit is good for you. 1.00

02:07:37.000 So it's free range. 1.00

02:07:39.000 100%. 1.00

02:07:39.000 That motherfucker was hanging out in Montana in the mountains. 1.00

02:07:44.000 We crept up on him and ganked him. 1.00

02:07:47.000 You shot him?

02:07:47.000 Or you bowed him?

02:07:49.000 I shot him with a bullet, with a gun. 0.98

02:07:52.000 But I'm going to start... 0.99

02:07:54.000 I'm shooting archery now.

02:07:56.000 I just started doing that to practice. 0.99

02:07:57.000 But I'm not even thinking about shooting an animal until I get really fucking good. 0.98

02:08:02.000 I wounded a deer because my scope was off because I'd fallen. 0.99

02:08:07.000 And when I'd fallen, I didn't know it was so easy to throw it off.

02:08:10.000 I even asked somebody if...

02:08:12.000 Could it be thrown off if you fell?

02:08:13.000 He's like, you'd have to fall really hard.

02:08:14.000 You could drop those things, they're fine.

02:08:16.000 But it turns out that the guy who installed my scope, he didn't tighten it down very much, so I wounded an animal.

02:08:20.000 It's a terrible feeling.

02:08:22.000 Did you chase after it?

02:08:23.000 For two hours.

02:08:24.000 We looked for it for two hours.

02:08:26.000 And then we came to the conclusion that it's probably wounded, but not mortally wounded. 0.99

02:08:30.000 It's a very fucking horrible, depressing feeling. 0.96

02:08:34.000 Especially when I put a shitload of time into marksmanship. 0.98

02:08:38.000 I went to the range and shot 90 rounds one day and then another at least 30 or 40 the next day before we went just to get everything tightened down.

02:08:48.000 And I was doing it with a.300 Win Mag, a really powerful rifle.

02:08:51.000 So I wanted to make sure that I was real.

02:08:53.000 So the first deer I killed, perfect clean shot.

02:08:56.000 But the second one, I missed it altogether and then I wounded in the second attempt to hit it.

02:09:01.000 So you're at the range with the full round, with the full loads?

02:09:04.000 Well, there's some rifle ranges you can go to.

02:09:06.000 They're outdoors, but they're rifle ranges specifically.

02:09:09.000 And they have targets set up at 400 yards, 700 yards, 900 yards, 100 yards, 200 yards.

02:09:15.000 The whole deal. 0.97

02:09:15.000 They have like fucking these little metal things way out in the distance you can shoot at. 0.97

02:09:19.000 Oh, the plates. 0.99

02:09:20.000 It's good you're going to either a crossbow or a longbow because you probably won't be able to get the bullets.

02:09:28.000 Well, you can use copper.

02:09:29.000 You can use copper?

02:09:30.000 Yeah, that's what's going on now with hunting.

02:09:33.000 A lot of ranches and things in California, they're trying to eliminate lead because lead is really dangerous to the environment, to the animals that eat it.

02:09:41.000 Birds put it in their gullet and they get sick.

02:09:43.000 Animals eat the birds.

02:09:45.000 People eat the animals that eat the birds.

02:09:46.000 I'm thinking more on the lines of Homeland Security buying up the millions and millions of rounds.

02:09:51.000 Is that true?

02:09:52.000 Yep.

02:09:52.000 That's not Alex Jones stuff?

02:09:54.000 No.

02:09:54.000 Homeland Security's buying up bullets.

02:09:56.000 What are they going to do with them?

02:09:57.000 They're buying up...

02:09:58.000 They'll give them away.

02:09:59.000 They'll have a giveaway.

02:10:00.000 Look, if they buy them, it means less for us to buy.

02:10:03.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:10:04.000 But people are always going to make bullets.

02:10:05.000 They're just going to help out the bullet industry.

02:10:07.000 People make their own loads, too.

02:10:08.000 Do you know that the U.S. government used to return the metal jackets to the United States to be smelted down and regenerated for bullets?

02:10:18.000 And it went into the general population to do it.

02:10:20.000 You know where it's going now?

02:10:22.000 Where?

02:10:22.000 China.

02:10:23.000 Damn it, I knew it was China. 1.00

02:10:24.000 China. 1.00

02:10:25.000 Now you've got aluminum jackets?

02:10:28.000 Yeah.

02:10:28.000 You've got aluminum jackets now.

02:10:30.000 Some of them.

02:10:31.000 Yeah, with copper, with copper bullets.

02:10:33.000 Well, some of them are still brass.

02:10:35.000 A lot of them are brass.

02:10:36.000 But either way, I mean, the federal government trying to take away bullets at this point seems pretty insane.

02:10:43.000 Unbelievable.

02:10:43.000 I was reading an article where it was in Alec Jones.

02:10:47.000 What are they doing with all that?

02:10:48.000 Unless they plan on killing us.

02:10:49.000 There you are. 0.99

02:10:50.000 There it is. 1.00

02:10:52.000 They're like the internet, these fucks. 1.00

02:10:53.000 We're going to shoot everybody's computer. 1.00

02:10:55.000 Go look at, I think it's called the.302 or.327, which is the sniper rifle rounds. 0.85

02:11:01.000 Look at how many they bought.

02:11:02.000 Oh my God, they're going to snipe us.

02:11:04.000 And this is for Homeland Security, not for the military going outside the United States.

02:11:08.000 Well, that's depressing.

02:11:10.000 Maybe they know about an alien invasion that we don't.

02:11:12.000 How about that?

02:11:13.000 Maybe it's already here.

02:11:13.000 Maybe that's why Obama's going gray.

02:11:15.000 They told him about the aliens. 1.00

02:11:17.000 And he's like, fuck. 1.00

02:11:19.000 God damn it. 1.00

02:11:19.000 But just buy the bullets. 1.00

02:11:21.000 Buy the bullets!

02:11:21.000 We're going to set up snipers.

02:11:23.000 Everybody get practice.

02:11:25.000 The YouTube has something about lizard eyes, or the lizard people.

02:11:29.000 Oh, you mean David Icke?

02:11:30.000 David Icke.

02:11:31.000 Yeah, David Icke.

02:11:32.000 He wants to come on the podcast.

02:11:33.000 I don't know if I could have him on and not talk about the lizards, but I don't think he wants to talk about the lizards anymore.

02:11:39.000 What is he on now?

02:11:41.000 Well, he's got some actually interesting, valid points on corruption and, you know, the Illuminati and, you know, just the way of the world.

02:11:49.000 But at one point in time, he apparently, allegedly...

02:11:53.000 Was stating that there were certain people that are in control and positions of power in the world that actually are lizards.

02:11:59.000 Lizard people.

02:12:00.000 They're reptilians. 0.99

02:12:01.000 They're shapeshifters or some shit. 1.00

02:12:03.000 And everybody was like, okay. 1.00

02:12:06.000 Right.

02:12:07.000 So now he doesn't say that anymore.

02:12:08.000 What happens if all this disinformation is to refute people like David stating about the reptilian people and they really exist?

02:12:17.000 The reptilian people don't exist.

02:12:19.000 I'll tell you right now.

02:12:20.000 Good. 0.99

02:12:20.000 Okay, here's a bunch of shit that's not real. 0.99

02:12:22.000 Ready? 0.99

02:12:22.000 Go. 0.99

02:12:25.000 Black people looking for Bigfoot. 1.00

02:12:26.000 Not real. 0.99

02:12:28.000 Not real.

02:12:29.000 That doesn't exist.

02:12:30.000 Let me think what else isn't real.

02:12:32.000 Unicorns, definitely not real.

02:12:36.000 Bigfoot, I gotta go with not real.

02:12:39.000 I know I want to go with real.

02:12:41.000 I wish it was real.

02:12:42.000 This is Pat McGee.

02:12:45.000 This is the guy who made the werewolf in the front yard.

02:12:48.000 He's going to make a movie on Bigfoot and he's crowdsourcing it and he's building all of the parts In his lab here, and he made this video and sent it to me today. 0.98

02:12:59.000 It's fucking sick. 0.97

02:13:01.000 If they wanted to do one of those Patterson-Gimlin movies now, boy, they could freak people the fuck out. 0.99

02:13:08.000 Because the artificial Bigfoots that they create now are amazing.

02:13:12.000 The work that they've done in special effects.

02:13:15.000 Look at this, they're doing this one hair at a time. 0.96

02:13:17.000 This is incredible.

02:13:20.000 The face looks too duck-like.

02:13:24.000 Not until I put the skin over it.

02:13:26.000 Yeah, no, it's incredible.

02:13:28.000 Look at this.

02:13:31.000 See, it won't get TBI. It's got a lot of protection on it.

02:13:36.000 That is so wild.

02:13:37.000 That's neat.

02:13:40.000 Wow.

02:13:41.000 And that's what it looks like when it's all done. 0.98

02:13:43.000 God damn, that's awesome. 0.95

02:13:47.000 That seems like something that would be in, like, a modern version of Twilight Zone. 0.99

02:13:52.000 Goddamn, that is amazing! 0.98

02:13:54.000 Primal Rage. 0.98

02:13:57.000 That looks really cool.

02:13:59.000 As long as it's all shadowy.

02:14:01.000 They make a big mistake when they try to make monster movies and make everything, like, real crystal clear. 1.00

02:14:05.000 Like, come on, stupid. 1.00

02:14:07.000 You gotta keep shit in the shadows. 1.00

02:14:08.000 Your CGI is not that good. 1.00

02:14:10.000 Stop showing off. 1.00

02:14:11.000 Stop showing off with your fucking fake Bigfoot. 1.00

02:14:14.000 So why is Bigfoot real? 1.00

02:14:17.000 Why don't you think it's real?

02:14:18.000 Well, I don't not think it's real.

02:14:21.000 I went to the Pacific Northwest actually looking for Bigfoot for the sci-fi show that I did, and I'm convinced that I talked to people that believed that they saw something.

02:14:30.000 What it actually is, who knows, but the reality of the Pacific Northwest is the density of the forest is incredible.

02:14:37.000 It's hard to imagine if you've never visited there.

02:14:40.000 I had an idea in my head of what it would be like, but the enormity of it all and how...

02:14:46.000 Insignificant and tiny I felt when I was in it.

02:14:48.000 That place is like a magical rainforest.

02:14:50.000 It's a true rainforest.

02:14:52.000 It's gorgeous.

02:14:54.000 And the inside is filled with bright green moss and the trees are filled with bright green leaves and it's only sunny like every other day or something like that. 0.97

02:15:02.000 Most of the time it's just raining constantly and it's Fucking lush, man. 0.82

02:15:07.000 Like a dense box of Q-tips is how I describe the trees there. 0.96

02:15:12.000 And you realize once you're there, like, oh, who knows what's out here?

02:15:16.000 There might be anything out here. 0.98

02:15:17.000 But the idea that it's gone this long with all these people looking for it, no one's brought back a body, nobody came across it, nobody shot it, most likely bullshit. 0.92

02:15:28.000 So you're basically saying because they haven't had more evidence. 0.94

02:15:31.000 There's not enough evidence that is...

02:15:34.000 Every evidence that they've ever found, whether it's DNA testing, whether it's...

02:15:39.000 That's me and Duncan in the woods.

02:15:40.000 Look at us.

02:15:41.000 We're looking around.

02:15:42.000 We're squatching with John and Steve. 0.99

02:15:46.000 Every piece of evidence that they've ever found has turned out to be bear shit. 0.99

02:15:49.000 This was a fascinating thing. 0.99

02:15:51.000 We found a teepee of trees that were ripped out of the ground and put into position.

02:15:57.000 You know, and some of them, like, were, like, literally ripped out by their root ball.

02:16:00.000 Like, the amount of strength that someone would have to have to do that and to do it that way.

02:16:04.000 So that was it?

02:16:05.000 That was another piece.

02:16:06.000 There was a broke-off branch that was broke off in the middle of the tree, and these guys were convinced that Bigfoot did that.

02:16:13.000 Cool guys, man.

02:16:14.000 They had a cool attitude, too, because their attitude was even if there's no Bigfoot, they're still out camping and enjoying nature and indulging in this fantasy.

02:16:20.000 No footprints?

02:16:21.000 Well, they do find footprints, but the issue with this area of the Pacific Northwest is that what you see these guys walking on right here, that stuff is so soft.

02:16:29.000 It's so incredibly dense with pine needles.

02:16:31.000 They said that there's between five and six feet of compressed pine needles under your feet.

02:16:36.000 And then it eventually becomes dirt and, you know, breaks down.

02:16:39.000 But it's so soft.

02:16:41.000 You're walking on everything.

02:16:42.000 It's like a big sponge.

02:16:43.000 So you can't get footprints. 0.97

02:16:44.000 It's really fucking cool, though. 0.96

02:16:47.000 You see elk everywhere. 0.99

02:16:49.000 They're just running through that place like rats.

02:16:51.000 And this woman who was one of the people that lives up there in the mountain, up in Mount Rainier, she was the most convincing. 0.99

02:16:57.000 Because she just didn't seem like a bullshit artist at all.

02:17:00.000 And she said she saw these elk running, and she was looking to see what they were running from as she was on a hike. 0.97

02:17:05.000 And she turned, she's like, oh, there's a gorilla.

02:17:08.000 Oh my God, that's Bigfoot.

02:17:10.000 And she said, it's the only time she ever saw it.

02:17:12.000 She never saw it since.

02:17:13.000 But she said she saw this thing.

02:17:14.000 She saw it for about five or six seconds.

02:17:16.000 Maybe a little bit more.

02:17:18.000 Move in between trees.

02:17:19.000 You know, she's trying to estimate while she's freaking out. 1.00

02:17:21.000 And then she realized, holy shit, I saw a Sasquatch. 1.00

02:17:23.000 Maybe it was a bear that got hit in the face with a rock. 0.99

02:17:27.000 You know, who knows?

02:17:28.000 And the Canadian Indians, the native Indians of Canada, they have lots of stories on...

02:17:34.000 Not just they have lots of stories.

02:17:36.000 They have over 200 different names for it.

02:17:38.000 This is interesting.

02:17:39.000 Because it doesn't mean that people haven't made up, you know, mythical animals and things in the past.

02:17:44.000 They certainly have.

02:17:45.000 And if you wanted to think about some old man that lives in the woods and, you know, some... 0.87

02:17:51.000 You never know what the fucks are on any corner when you're in the woods, especially back then, the Indian days. 1.00

02:17:56.000 You know, it's probably a good cautionary tale to pretend there's some giant wild man living in the woods that's much larger than you and doesn't give a fuck and hides from cameras. 0.99

02:18:06.000 It seems like it's a good thing to tell your kids. 0.97

02:18:10.000 What was that movie?

02:18:11.000 Henry and the Hendersons?

02:18:12.000 That was most likely real.

02:18:14.000 That's what I was going to say.

02:18:16.000 I believe that movie.

02:18:17.000 I think that it's possible that there could be an animal that we haven't discovered.

02:18:20.000 That it's that animal?

02:18:21.000 Ooh, that's a tough one.

02:18:22.000 Oh, it's such a dense vegetation up there.

02:18:25.000 It's so big.

02:18:26.000 That's the problem.

02:18:27.000 This thing's giant.

02:18:28.000 It would need to eat a lot of food. 1.00

02:18:29.000 It would need to be fucking eaten constantly. 0.96

02:18:31.000 Has anyone set up either thermal sensors? 0.96

02:18:35.000 Yeah.

02:18:35.000 They've set up everything.

02:18:36.000 And tremors, you know, the...

02:18:38.000 They've set up game cameras.

02:18:39.000 No one's ever caught a big foot on a game camera. 0.99

02:18:42.000 When you stop and think about how much shit gets caught on game cameras, that's quite shocking. 0.97

02:18:45.000 Because they're really prevalent now. 0.99

02:18:47.000 It's like the same argument about UFOs and cell phone cameras.

02:18:50.000 Well, why didn't you take a picture?

02:18:52.000 Why didn't you have a camera?

02:18:52.000 Everybody has a camera now.

02:18:53.000 Sure.

02:18:54.000 But there's still not like this massive influx of UFO videos that are legitimate. 0.99

02:18:58.000 They're still all horse shit. 0.98

02:18:59.000 So as these game cameras become more and more prevalent in the woods where people go out hunting or they go out sightseeing or looking for animals, you know... 0.99

02:19:06.000 Wasn't there a recent in the Northwest, or Midwest, there was a sighting with lights that were just hovering?

02:19:14.000 Hundreds of people took pictures of it?

02:19:16.000 Oh, you're talking about the Phoenix Lights.

02:19:19.000 Was that the Phoenix Lights?

02:19:20.000 Yeah, the Phoenix Lights.

02:19:21.000 I think that was in the late 90s.

02:19:22.000 No, there was something more, I think more recent.

02:19:25.000 Really?

02:19:25.000 Maybe, maybe.

02:19:26.000 The Phoenix Lights were, I believe it was the 90s.

02:19:30.000 Yeah, it was gas bubbles.

02:19:32.000 I talk to people that...

02:19:33.000 I go to Phoenix all the time.

02:19:34.000 In fact, I'm going to Phoenix this weekend.

02:19:36.000 This weekend, ladies and gentlemen, at Stand Up Live with the lovely and talented Tom Segura.

02:19:41.000 But I've talked to people that were there when that happened, and they were pretty convincing, man.

02:19:45.000 They believe they saw something.

02:19:48.000 But what it was, like, who knows?

02:19:50.000 They all described, like, a bunch of people described this giant, like, triangle that was flying silently through the sky.

02:19:59.000 And, you know, maybe. 0.97

02:20:02.000 Or they could have been just fucking freaking out. 0.98

02:20:04.000 Area 51. Area 51. I think that's what it is. 0.99

02:20:08.000 Area 51, they launched.

02:20:09.000 They just said, let's just freak out Phoenix. 0.55

02:20:12.000 How do you think we went through such a rapid technological advancement since the late 50s?

02:20:19.000 Do you think it's because of aliens?

02:20:21.000 Where do you get our technology? 0.99

02:20:22.000 You're a full-on nutter. 1.00

02:20:24.000 Look at you. 1.00

02:20:24.000 You're anti-vaccine. 1.00

02:20:26.000 We believe in aliens.

02:20:27.000 You believe that alien technology has caused...

02:20:29.000 We're not alone in the universe.

02:20:31.000 Hey, you say that.

02:20:32.000 I feel really alone.

02:20:33.000 You do?

02:20:34.000 I'll give you a hug later.

02:20:36.000 So you believe that it's actually possible that someone has somehow or another kept people from the information that human beings have been visited and that we have actually received technology from aliens.

02:20:48.000 The possibility is there.

02:20:50.000 Wow.

02:20:50.000 What would you say a percentage?

02:20:52.000 I agree with you the possibility is there.

02:20:53.000 I don't know what a percentage would be.

02:20:55.000 You know, what is the one that keeps me sane, percentage, versus, you know, crazy?

02:21:01.000 What's the percentage?

02:21:02.000 There is no.

02:21:03.000 There is no. 1.00

02:21:04.000 Well, I honestly, I mean, all bullshit aside, putting myself out there not worried about what I look like, you know, because if you start talking about aliens, you do look like an idiot. 1.00

02:21:13.000 Let's just accept that. 1.00

02:21:15.000 I submit to that.

02:21:17.000 I don't think we look like regular monkeys.

02:21:19.000 I think we look different.

02:21:20.000 It's weird.

02:21:21.000 It's weird how we look different.

02:21:22.000 And I know that there's been a bunch of different stages of us along the way.

02:21:25.000 I get all that.

02:21:26.000 But man, they seem like they were pretty recent. 0.99

02:21:28.000 Those fucking things seem pretty recent. 0.97

02:21:30.000 And when they find out that people's brain size doubled over a period of two million years and there's no logical explanation, I go, oh, what? 0.99

02:21:38.000 Wait a minute.

02:21:39.000 What?

02:21:40.000 How did we start talking?

02:21:41.000 How did all that happen? 0.99

02:21:42.000 Is it possible that something came down and fucked with us the same way we fuck with virtually everything that we find in the wild? 0.99

02:21:50.000 Is that possible? 1.00

02:21:52.000 We inject fucking lipstick into rabbits to see if it kills them. 1.00

02:21:56.000 Guano. 1.00

02:21:57.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:21:58.000 Bad shit. 1.00

02:21:59.000 That's what they use for lipstick? 1.00

02:22:00.000 Used to be what it was used.

02:22:02.000 I think they're still using it in some manufacturing.

02:22:05.000 I heard the most horrible story about batshit.

02:22:07.000 These guys in Africa, these scientists, were doing some sort of a...

02:22:27.000 I think?

02:22:36.000 So the cave, rather. 0.99

02:22:37.000 So the bats, these millions upon millions of bats all shit on them. 0.82

02:22:42.000 And they got deathly ill and were dead within weeks. 0.94

02:22:46.000 Both men died of just horrible diseases.

02:22:50.000 Horrible, like, hemorrhagic viruses. 0.99

02:22:53.000 Their eyes were fucking bleeding. 0.99

02:22:54.000 I mean, like, really terrible ways to die. 1.00

02:22:57.000 They got introduced to all sorts of terrible pathogens from bat shit. 1.00

02:23:01.000 Bats just shitting so much on them, like, inches of shit. 1.00

02:23:05.000 So they were covered in this horrible, toxic shit from these flying monsters. 1.00

02:23:12.000 Sounds like a great premise for a movie. 0.99

02:23:14.000 Team people, ladies and gentlemen.

02:23:15.000 Was it?

02:23:16.000 I'm on team people. 1.00

02:23:17.000 Bats can go fuck themselves. 1.00

02:23:19.000 That's wrong shitting on scientists. 1.00

02:23:22.000 Meanwhile, those guys could have been saved with an umbrella. 0.99

02:23:24.000 How about that?

02:23:26.000 You know, an umbrella and a map of the territory.

02:23:29.000 Why didn't they set something up in advance to, like, let's see what happens first.

02:23:35.000 Let's not be there.

02:23:36.000 Can we set a remote camera?

02:23:37.000 I mean, what if something weird happens?

02:23:38.000 Like Dracula comes out with them.

02:23:43.000 That's a terrible way to die, though, man. 0.99

02:23:45.000 Death by batshit.

02:23:47.000 Virus is even worse. 0.84

02:23:49.000 Yeah, there's a lot of ugly ones, huh?

02:23:50.000 Mm-hmm.

02:23:51.000 Ebola.

02:23:52.000 Yeah.

02:23:53.000 Did they have that one under control?

02:23:55.000 How do you get Ebola?

02:23:57.000 It was manufactured.

02:23:58.000 Really?

02:23:59.000 Do you think so?

02:24:00.000 I think a lot of the viruses were manufactured.

02:24:02.000 There was a documentary on the HIV. Freaked me out.

02:24:06.000 That's how my uncle, who's a homophobe, uses it. 0.71

02:24:09.000 Yeah, they all got the HIV. Those fucking... 1.00

02:24:13.000 with the HIV, you know, these guys. 1.00

02:24:18.000 The HIV. There was a documentary on HIV, trying to go through the history of how it developed.

02:24:27.000 And the way the story was told was there was a French, you know, one of the largest vaccine companies is a French company, starts with an M. And they were in Zaire and at a camp trying to grow a smallpox vaccine on a culture and they couldn't do it.

02:24:47.000 So what they ended up doing, because it would die, it wouldn't sustain it.

02:24:50.000 So they ended up getting simian, which is monkey liver or monkey kidney.

02:24:55.000 And they grew the virus, the smallpox virus, on it.

02:24:59.000 And what happened was they believed that the monkey's virus crossed over from monkey to human in this vaccine.

02:25:09.000 And who was the first case that was documented?

02:25:11.000 This French guy that came to the United States was the plague, the typhoid Mary. 1.00

02:25:19.000 You know, who brought it over to the States.

02:25:21.000 So a French guy came over here, and so he's patient zero in the United States?

02:25:25.000 He was patient zero, supposedly. 0.99

02:25:25.000 How many dudes fuck that guy, like a million? 0.99

02:25:27.000 Don't know. 1.00

02:25:28.000 He was gay. 0.91

02:25:29.000 He wasn't gay or he was?

02:25:30.000 No, he was. 0.92

02:25:30.000 He was gay. 0.92

02:25:31.000 Yeah, I'm trying to find this documentary.

02:25:33.000 It was like two hours long, and it was just awesome.

02:25:35.000 Is it substantiated?

02:25:37.000 Like, is it disputed?

02:25:38.000 Has it been debunked?

02:25:40.000 Do you know?

02:25:40.000 That would be the first thing that I would need.

02:25:42.000 Well, what happened was the people that were doing the project, the program...

02:25:45.000 Do you remember what it's called?

02:25:47.000 No, it was...

02:25:49.000 It's maybe almost 10 years ago that it was on.

02:25:53.000 And it was a documentary on smallpox and the smallpox HIV. And they went to the Louis Pasteur Institute in Paris.

02:26:04.000 And there was supposedly a sample of the original culture.

02:26:09.000 That if they would go through that original culture, they would see the simian virus. 0.98

02:26:16.000 Becoming, mutating over to being human.

02:26:19.000 Whoa.

02:26:20.000 The simian SIV. It was simian immune virus.

02:26:26.000 And then when it's a human, human immunovirus, HIV. Wow.

02:26:32.000 Yeah.

02:26:32.000 Someone gave me a book on experiments on viral.

02:26:37.000 And in it, it talks about HIV and Ebola.

02:26:39.000 I'll give you the book if you want it.

02:26:41.000 So, how come that's, like, hidden knowledge?

02:26:45.000 How come people don't know about that?

02:26:47.000 It's not hidden knowledge.

02:26:47.000 It's hiding in plain sight.

02:26:48.000 It's hiding in plain sight, but nobody talks about it.

02:26:50.000 No one talks about it.

02:26:51.000 No one reads it.

02:26:52.000 Because there was that old Sam Kinison joke about AIDS coming from a monkey.

02:26:56.000 And then Dave Chappelle had an even better joke, actually. 1.00

02:26:59.000 It was, like, talking about how hard it was to fuck a monkey. 1.00

02:27:02.000 Like, how can somebody fuck a monkey? 1.00

02:27:04.000 You tell me somebody fucked a monkey? 1.00

02:27:05.000 I don't believe it. 1.00

02:27:08.000 That's such a great premise.

02:27:09.000 Just thinking about that is so true.

02:27:11.000 It makes you laugh just thinking about a guy trying to hold onto a monkey while it's biting him.

02:27:18.000 Spider monkey?

02:27:19.000 I don't know if I buy that.

02:27:21.000 I feel like if that was the truth, that that would be out there.

02:27:24.000 Okay, let's try to do a Google search on it and see if there's a debunking.

02:27:29.000 Since you haven't done your due diligence, sir, before you come at us with this outlandish claim.

02:27:34.000 It was the smallpox virus?

02:27:36.000 Yeah, it was in Zaire, French company, French group, and I don't know if it was Origin of AIDS. Okay, there's a smallpox virus HIV documentary.

02:27:48.000 Here it goes.

02:27:49.000 What year?

02:27:51.000 AIDS linked to smallpox vaccine.

02:27:54.000 Let's see.

02:27:55.000 I think it's called The World's Most Dangerous Virus.

02:28:01.000 Hmm.

02:28:02.000 No, that's not it.

02:28:03.000 I was seeing a NOVA documentary on it, but I don't know if that's the one.

02:28:06.000 Yeah, it seems like there's quite a few.

02:28:08.000 It's hard to tell.

02:28:12.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:28:13.000 Yeah, but sitting there watching it, I was just glued to it, and I usually don't watch television if I can avoid it, except for Walking Dead.

02:28:19.000 Yeah.

02:28:20.000 Which now I'm going to stop since you said...

02:28:22.000 Yeah, this...

02:28:23.000 Well, I don't...

02:28:23.000 I'm just kidding.

02:28:24.000 I'll still watch it. 1.00

02:28:25.000 I'm a bitch. 1.00

02:28:26.000 I'm just upset. 1.00

02:28:27.000 They're beating me up, my brain up.

02:28:29.000 Yeah, there's an article in here from the London Times about smallpox vaccine triggered AIDS virus.

02:28:35.000 An AIDS epidemic may have been triggered by the mass vaccination campaign which eradicated smallpox.

02:28:40.000 Whoa.

02:28:41.000 The World Health Organization, which masterminded a 13-year campaign, is studying the new scientific evidence suggesting that the immunization with smallpox vaccine, V-A-C-C-I-N-I-A, vaccine-ina?

02:28:57.000 Vaccinia.

02:28:58.000 Vaccinia.

02:28:59.000 Vaccinia awakened the unsuspected dormant human immune deficient virus infection.

02:29:06.000 In this program, they said it was...

02:29:11.000 There's a term for it.

02:29:13.000 It...

02:29:14.000 We're good to go.

02:29:34.000 Which is a very difficult thing to do unless it mutates.

02:29:37.000 So what happened in this premise of this documentary quote that I saw was that by culturing the smallpox vaccine, smallpox in on simian monkey kidneys, that whatever they were feeding it allowed it to cross the genetics of I see.

02:29:58.000 Got it.

02:29:59.000 I see.

02:29:59.000 So much like swine flu and things along those lines cross from cattle and livestock and birds, they cross over to people.

02:30:08.000 Right.

02:30:08.000 They cross over.

02:30:09.000 That's a real issue, isn't it?

02:30:12.000 That's why they're manipulating or people manipulating genetic code and mixing things together. 0.56

02:30:17.000 It scares me.

02:30:19.000 Yeah, it seems like it should.

02:30:20.000 And it seems like, I mean, I joke around about it, but when people are concerned about that, they get labeled into that category.

02:30:28.000 Oh, you're one of those guys, huh?

02:30:30.000 Listen, if it wasn't for GMO food, if it wasn't for golden rice, it'd be a billion less people on the earth.

02:30:36.000 People will always tell you that.

02:30:37.000 That golden rice is a big one.

02:30:39.000 They always bring that one up.

02:30:40.000 Whatever.

02:30:41.000 Maybe the earth could use a billion less people. 0.87

02:30:43.000 How about that?

02:30:44.000 That's why we have diseases and why we have wars. 0.98

02:30:48.000 Do you really think that wars are for that?

02:30:52.000 That wipe out people on purpose?

02:30:54.000 Like the Illuminati get together and they work out a deal?

02:30:57.000 I think it's not specifically only about eliminating people and population control, but I think there's, if you look at the best financing, war machinery, war is incredible.

02:31:10.000 Financing, how much money have we spent in Iraq, in Afghanistan?

02:31:14.000 $50.

02:31:15.000 That would be great.

02:31:16.000 Yeah, it's a bargain when you really find out what the actual numbers are.

02:31:21.000 That'd be like the Super Colbert character.

02:31:23.000 A guy who just makes up numbers.

02:31:25.000 You know the truth about Afghanistan and Iraq? 1.00

02:31:28.000 They spent $50.

02:31:30.000 That's it.

02:31:31.000 Everything else was donated.

02:31:32.000 Donated from churches and good people. 1.00

02:31:34.000 They wanted us to go over there and kill those fucks. 1.00

02:31:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:31:37.000 And let's see, all the oil fields in Iraq were given to what, Gulf and Exxon as a gift for their humanitarian service to the military there?

02:31:46.000 I buy that.

02:31:47.000 Yeah, so do I. It seems totally logical.

02:31:49.000 And then the $20 billion that was sitting in the bank from all the oil being sold worldwide while the war was going on, and why didn't they use that for the war?

02:31:57.000 Because we were busy.

02:31:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:31:59.000 We had shit to do. 0.97

02:32:00.000 We had to protect you. 0.99

02:32:00.000 We need to print money here. 0.99

02:32:01.000 Fighting for freedom.

02:32:03.000 Don't worry about... 1.00

02:32:04.000 You worry about your own shit. 1.00

02:32:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:32:05.000 Worry about us. 1.00

02:32:06.000 We're taking care of you.

02:32:07.000 If it wasn't for us, you wouldn't even be getting any freedom.

02:32:10.000 Yeah.

02:32:11.000 Well, it's a great argument.

02:32:14.000 Yeah.

02:32:14.000 As long as you're not going around creating the AIDS virus.

02:32:17.000 Yeah.

02:32:17.000 A few good men, huh?

02:32:19.000 Creating the AIDS virus in your spare time. 0.81

02:32:22.000 Is it possible that other diseases you think that have been accidentally created... 1.00

02:32:28.000 Stupidity. 1.00

02:32:29.000 Stupidity, is that a disease or is that just a function of being a human and being allowed to be stupid? 1.00

02:32:34.000 If you give people the option to be stupid, they often... 1.00

02:32:36.000 Be on your cell phone all the time. 1.00

02:32:38.000 Okay. 1.00

02:32:38.000 Play stupid games. 1.00

02:32:39.000 I don't do those. 1.00

02:32:40.000 Watch television.

02:32:41.000 I have discipline.

02:32:42.000 Yeah, dumbing down.

02:32:43.000 Not me, buddy.

02:32:44.000 I'm up at 6 doing kettlebells.

02:32:46.000 6 p.m.

02:32:47.000 is when I get up.

02:32:48.000 I'm at 6 a.m. 0.98

02:32:51.000 I do like to get up early every now and then just to say, boy, this sucks.

02:32:54.000 I don't want to do this anymore.

02:32:55.000 What time do your kids get up?

02:32:56.000 They get up early.

02:32:57.000 I'm just kidding.

02:32:58.000 I know you're up with it.

02:32:59.000 I take them to school.

02:32:59.000 When I take them to school, most of the time my wife does, but when I do take them to school, I actually run with the five-year-old.

02:33:05.000 They're just like running track, run laps and shit.

02:33:08.000 They have a whole thing they're doing to try to introduce kids to exercise at an early age and they make it fun and exciting for them. 1.00

02:33:14.000 And cut out all the crap in their diet. 0.92

02:33:15.000 That's a problem, man. 1.00

02:33:17.000 I see some of the things her little friends have, and little five-year-olds are eating just shit for lunch. 0.99

02:33:22.000 It's just things that they think their kid will eat, and they're worried that their kid won't eat healthy food. 0.97

02:33:28.000 Your kids will eat healthy food, man.

02:33:29.000 Train them.

02:33:31.000 Yeah, give them the healthy food and then give them, you know, a little bit of delicious treats as a reward. 0.92

02:33:37.000 You know, give them something because they did their homework.

02:33:39.000 Let them have a little every now and then.

02:33:41.000 Don't make it a big deal.

02:33:42.000 Let them have a little cake.

02:33:44.000 Let them have a little ice cream.

02:33:44.000 But you've got to make sure that they understand that in order for their body to be healthy and not get disease, it's a communication thing.

02:33:51.000 And some people don't even want to do that work. 0.99

02:33:53.000 They're like, this fucking kid's not listening. 1.00

02:33:55.000 Give them the cake. 1.00

02:33:56.000 Give them the cake.

02:33:56.000 Give them the candy.

02:33:57.000 I'm tired of them crying.

02:33:59.000 I don't care. 1.00

02:33:59.000 Give them the candy, you little fuck. 1.00

02:34:01.000 It's terrible. 1.00

02:34:02.000 It's the passive way.

02:34:03.000 It's just weak people.

02:34:05.000 It's also people that aren't concerned about their own diets.

02:34:08.000 I know many people who never give any consideration whatsoever to the fuel that they put inside their body.

02:34:13.000 They just don't.

02:34:14.000 They don't think about vegetables.

02:34:15.000 They don't think about phytonutrients.

02:34:17.000 They don't think about minerals.

02:34:18.000 They don't think about being hydrated.

02:34:20.000 We're good to go.

02:34:41.000 You know, very stressful computations. 0.99

02:34:43.000 And he's running on coffee and cheeseburgers from McDonald's and candy and a fucking protein bar that's filled with GMO corn. 0.99

02:34:52.000 That's all possible. 1.00

02:34:54.000 And you wonder what the fuck is wrong with us as a society when we can't get our mental shit together while our bodies are rotting apart, Dr. Gordon. 0.99

02:35:01.000 You got it. 1.00

02:35:02.000 Rotting apart!

02:35:04.000 Where's my cronut?

02:35:05.000 Literally!

02:35:06.000 Where's my cronut?

02:35:08.000 Cronut?

02:35:08.000 Is that a cronut?

02:35:09.000 What's a cronut?

02:35:10.000 It's a croissant donut.

02:35:12.000 Oh, a cronut.

02:35:13.000 Well, you're very specific.

02:35:14.000 How would you even expect me to know that?

02:35:16.000 If you said like a chocolate croissant, I would say I've had those.

02:35:19.000 This is a cronut where they have lines waiting for the people to eat them.

02:35:24.000 Oh, is this some famous thing or something?

02:35:26.000 It's relatively new, isn't it?

02:35:28.000 People line up to buy a special type of donut? 1.00

02:35:31.000 God, we're so stupid. 1.00

02:35:32.000 People are so dumb. 1.00

02:35:35.000 You should have seen the line of black and whites lined up. 1.00

02:35:38.000 Black and white people?

02:35:39.000 Cars.

02:35:40.000 Oh.

02:35:41.000 Jesus Christ.

02:35:42.000 I don't know what you're saying.

02:35:43.000 You mean cops.

02:35:44.000 So the cops are lining up to get these special donuts.

02:35:47.000 That's what you're saying?

02:35:48.000 Phenomenal is what I heard.

02:35:48.000 Did you just tell a cop donut joke on my show?

02:35:51.000 Absolutely.

02:35:52.000 How dare you, doctor?

02:35:53.000 That's like me showing up in your office with voodoo. 0.98

02:35:55.000 I compensate by...

02:35:57.000 Look at this line!

02:35:58.000 Oh my god, where is this?

02:35:59.000 Is this New York?

02:36:00.000 That's New York.

02:36:00.000 They're all in line to get a donut.

02:36:02.000 I fucking hate everyone in that line. 1.00

02:36:04.000 I hate all of you. 1.00

02:36:06.000 They're what, two bucks, three bucks each? 1.00

02:36:07.000 You are all the problem, you fuckheads. 1.00

02:36:10.000 You are all crazy and ridiculous. 1.00

02:36:12.000 That's a mile-long line for a fucking donut. 1.00

02:36:15.000 How dare you? 1.00

02:36:17.000 It doesn't fuck with Krispy Kreme. 1.00

02:36:19.000 I don't care what anybody says. 0.99

02:36:20.000 It can't.

02:36:20.000 Krispy Kreme donuts, when they're right out of the oven, there's not a thing that can taste better than that.

02:36:25.000 It doesn't get better than that.

02:36:27.000 Where's the Krispy Kreme place?

02:36:28.000 Santa Monica is the closest to here.

02:36:30.000 Burbank.

02:36:31.000 There's Burbank, yeah.

02:36:32.000 Most of them closed down, I heard.

02:36:34.000 A lot of them did, but that's just because of communism.

02:36:36.000 Ah, that's what did it.

02:36:37.000 That's what it is.

02:36:38.000 Socialism.

02:36:38.000 Trying to keep the man down.

02:36:40.000 They need to expand.

02:36:41.000 They should have Krispy Kremes everywhere. 1.00

02:36:42.000 If you want to do something decadent that's horrible for your body, why are you fucking around? 0.99

02:36:47.000 You need just a couple of Krispy Kremes. 0.99

02:36:49.000 You'll feel like shit after they're down, but when they're going down, it will be goddamn glorious. 0.98

02:36:54.000 I'm going to find some cronuts and bring them to you. 0.98

02:36:56.000 When you eat one of those maple ones, do you know those warm maple ones?

02:37:01.000 You hear Bon Jovi singing. 0.98

02:37:04.000 When you bite into it, Shut down! 0.74

02:37:08.000 In a blaze of glory! 0.98

02:37:10.000 You feel it.

02:37:11.000 You feel it in your bones.

02:37:12.000 Your toes tingle.

02:37:13.000 You know you're giving yourself cancer and you don't care.

02:37:16.000 You don't care.

02:37:17.000 It's a million milligrams of sugar.

02:37:19.000 One million.

02:37:20.000 That's what I heard.

02:37:20.000 One million.

02:37:21.000 Yeah, I saw a documentary.

02:37:22.000 A million...

02:37:24.000 It's exactly the amount of sugar that you can eat and not die.

02:37:28.000 That's what's in a box of Krispy Kreme.

02:37:30.000 A Cronut burger. 0.98

02:37:30.000 Oh, that's ridiculous. 0.98

02:37:32.000 Oh my god. 0.99

02:37:32.000 Have you tried it? 0.99

02:37:33.000 No, I've had bacon on mine.

02:37:35.000 Bacon.

02:37:35.000 I don't eat bacon.

02:37:36.000 Look at that.

02:37:37.000 So it's a croissant donut mix with a cheeseburger and they smash it all together and put powdered sugar on the top of it.

02:37:46.000 Wow.

02:37:46.000 Wow, we hate ourselves.

02:37:48.000 Wow. 1.00

02:37:48.000 Fucking humans hate ourselves. 1.00

02:37:50.000 We're crazy. 1.00

02:37:51.000 That looks almost edible.

02:37:53.000 Do you allow yourself cheat days?

02:37:54.000 I know you're really healthy for the most part.

02:37:56.000 No, I don't have cheat days.

02:37:58.000 Do you have cheat meals?

02:37:59.000 I don't have cheat meals.

02:38:00.000 Do you have cheat desserts?

02:38:02.000 Nope.

02:38:02.000 Do you eat dessert?

02:38:03.000 Yep.

02:38:04.000 So you just eat it?

02:38:04.000 I just eat it.

02:38:05.000 It's not a cheat.

02:38:06.000 It's part of the entire...

02:38:08.000 Diet.

02:38:09.000 Nutrition.

02:38:10.000 Dessert is a part of nutrition?

02:38:12.000 Absolutely.

02:38:12.000 Tell me more.

02:38:13.000 Apples.

02:38:14.000 With peanut butter.

02:38:15.000 Oh, is that what you eat? 1.00

02:38:15.000 Oh, you fucking weirdo. 1.00

02:38:16.000 Apples with peanut butter. 1.00

02:38:17.000 Listen, that is not dessert.

02:38:18.000 How dare you? 0.99

02:38:19.000 Fucking dare you. 0.99

02:38:20.000 That's great. 1.00

02:38:21.000 The balls on this guy. 0.99

02:38:22.000 That is not, man. 0.99

02:38:23.000 How about yogurt with acai, dark chocolate coated acai.

02:38:29.000 Acai.

02:38:30.000 Acai.

02:38:31.000 Acai.

02:38:31.000 You got to speak like a Portuguese.

02:38:32.000 And also with peanuts and walnuts and pine nuts.

02:38:36.000 I got a better idea. 1.00

02:38:37.000 How about a hot fudge sundae, you fuck? 1.00

02:38:38.000 I love that. 1.00

02:38:39.000 How about a brownie?

02:38:39.000 How about a brownie with hot fudge on it?

02:38:41.000 Just really...

02:38:42.000 When I get a coupon for 31 flavors, I'm there.

02:38:45.000 Yeah, so you'll eat those too.

02:38:46.000 I'll eat it.

02:38:47.000 But for the most part, you try to reward yourself with delicious things that are actually nutritious.

02:38:50.000 Better things.

02:38:50.000 I might have a carbonated drink once a month.

02:38:53.000 My friend Mike Dolce, he's a nutritionist to a lot of MMA fighters, helps them with their diet and losing weight.

02:38:59.000 He doesn't believe in cheat days, but he believes in reward meals.

02:39:02.000 Like you will reward yourself.

02:39:05.000 It's a cheat meal.

02:39:06.000 It's just semantics.

02:39:07.000 Hey, easy.

02:39:07.000 It's a reward for your hard work.

02:39:09.000 It's semantics.

02:39:10.000 Come on.

02:39:10.000 Why do you got to be negative?

02:39:12.000 Because cheat is a negative and reward is a positive.

02:39:15.000 Exactly.

02:39:15.000 He's a glass half full kind of a guy.

02:39:17.000 I got it.

02:39:17.000 That's what I said.

02:39:18.000 So you can't define it for him.

02:39:20.000 You're trying to break him down.

02:39:22.000 There he is, Mike.

02:39:22.000 Where is he?

02:39:23.000 Oh, that's The Rock.

02:39:24.000 Oh, The Rock's cheat days are epic.

02:39:26.000 Look at the size of that guy.

02:39:27.000 What is he eating?

02:39:28.000 Look at the size of that guy. 1.00

02:39:29.000 Who gives a fuck what he's eating? 1.00

02:39:30.000 He is goddamn huge. 1.00

02:39:32.000 He used to be a normal-sized big athlete. 1.00

02:39:35.000 But now he's fucking... 0.99

02:39:37.000 That guy's obsessed with working out too. 1.00

02:39:39.000 If you go to his...

02:39:40.000 If you're a guy that likes to work out, subscribe to The Rock's Twitter.

02:39:43.000 And his Twitter and his Instagram are epic.

02:39:46.000 Because this guy will fly into a city at like 4 o'clock in the morning and be at the gym at 6. Taking pictures, tweeting, and going crazy.

02:39:52.000 He just believes in like constant hard work.

02:39:55.000 Doing things that are difficult.

02:39:57.000 Making yourself work out when you don't want to.

02:39:59.000 And he's very strict with his diet except one day. 1.00

02:40:01.000 And that one day he has these fucking... 0.99

02:40:04.000 We're good to go. 1.00

02:40:23.000 Well, I think he's mentally, he's probably a crazy person. 0.99

02:40:26.000 Look at the size of him. 0.98

02:40:27.000 That's what he used to look like, that's what he looks like now.

02:40:29.000 Wow!

02:40:29.000 Yeah, he's giant.

02:40:30.000 I think he is a crazy person, because I think he's in the good way. 0.98

02:40:35.000 I think he's a crazy person for success. 1.00

02:40:37.000 You know, he's a crazy person for achievement.

02:40:39.000 So he's just getting crazy for pumping his body up into this ultimate super athlete machine.

02:40:44.000 Gee, I feel small.

02:40:46.000 You should feel small.

02:40:47.000 I am.

02:40:47.000 Next to him.

02:40:48.000 We're both producing estrogen.

02:40:50.000 Speak for yourself.

02:40:52.000 We're both producing estrogen for standing next to the rock.

02:40:54.000 I met the guy, trust me.

02:40:55.000 He's too big.

02:40:56.000 Look at the size of that guy.

02:40:57.000 I mean, that's a big fella.

02:40:58.000 Jesus Christ.

02:41:01.000 So if you're looking for inspiration, follow him on Instagram.

02:41:05.000 For the average guy, What should the average person do if they want to find out what's going on with their hormones, where their hormone levels are?

02:41:12.000 What's the steps that they should take to find out?

02:41:15.000 Well, we have an automated system to make it easier.

02:41:19.000 If they have a traumatic brain injury or have had a traumatic brain injury, And I'll just interject this.

02:41:25.000 If they're with the military or with the police department or with NFL retiree, I have three grants to pay for their $2,100, $2,200 laboratory testing.

02:41:37.000 It'll be paid for by a grant.

02:41:40.000 So they go to the website and they fill out an application and within 12 to 24 hours, someone in our office calls to just confirm a couple of things and send them out about 20 pages worth of intake.

02:41:52.000 And in your experience, a lot of the people that are experiencing real bad results from traumatic brain injury, oftentimes it's hormonally related.

02:42:01.000 Correct.

02:42:02.000 Well, you know, I take care of what's called mild to moderate.

02:42:06.000 These are people who might not have lost consciousness in the mild.

02:42:09.000 Some of them might have a little amnesia that lasts for less than 12, 24 hours.

02:42:15.000 Is it shocking for you how easy it is to damage the brain?

02:42:19.000 Unbelievable.

02:42:20.000 One case that just finished, a gentleman was rear-ended at 5 to 7 miles an hour.

02:42:25.000 And ended up getting traumatic brain injury.

02:42:27.000 God, that's so crazy.

02:42:28.000 The brain sits, you know, in an envelope with fluid supporting it.

02:42:33.000 But there's the front part of the inside of the brain and the backside at the front part called the suenoid plateau.

02:42:38.000 It's a sharp area that...

02:42:41.000 All you have to do is stop short.

02:42:42.000 You just have to shake your head, shaking baby, working on a pneumatic drill or a pneumatic hammer or skiing moguls where you're up and down or doing water skiing where you're hitting the waves and you're bouncing up and down.

02:42:58.000 That's how simple it is and we've taken it for granted that the brain is Impervious to damage.

02:43:05.000 So water skiing can give you brain damage.

02:43:07.000 Correct.

02:43:07.000 It's repetitive.

02:43:08.000 It's a form of repetitive.

02:43:09.000 Think of it this way.

02:43:10.000 You're standing there in the ring, and someone's just tapping you, you know, a little bit.

02:43:15.000 Not me, bro.

02:43:15.000 I move left and right.

02:43:17.000 I'm slick.

02:43:18.000 I'm like Pernell Whitaker.

02:43:20.000 You're rope-a-dope.

02:43:21.000 So, anyway, if you were getting hit lightly, the damage accumulates over time.

02:43:27.000 That totally makes sense.

02:43:29.000 There was a...

02:43:31.000 There's been quite a few, actually, guys who realized after a while that they couldn't take punishment anymore.

02:43:38.000 That their brain just was simply not allowing them to take those shots.

02:43:42.000 They'd get hit, and their body would just give out.

02:43:44.000 When you see that, is that just like hurting a knee or hurting your back?

02:43:49.000 You're more likely to hurt it again?

02:43:50.000 If you hurt your knee and you tear your meniscus, there's a high probability of you injuring that knee again.

02:43:56.000 That knee has now been weakened.

02:43:57.000 Correct.

02:43:58.000 Is that how the brain is as well?

02:43:59.000 Well, it's...

02:44:01.000 The brain is just awesome.

02:44:03.000 There's connections from, you know, the different lobes of the brain, from the left to right, the front to the back.

02:44:09.000 And there are connections that can be torn, called shearing.

02:44:13.000 And if you tear enough of them, what happens is you lose cognitive ability, mental ability.

02:44:18.000 Your personality changes.

02:44:20.000 And over a period of time, you might have this slow progression towards depression or slow progression towards memory loss or fatigue.

02:44:28.000 So...

02:44:31.000 It happens over a long period of time.

02:44:33.000 There's a 30-year prospective study, which means they had people who had head trauma, and they followed them for 30 years.

02:44:40.000 That's creepy.

02:44:41.000 Stop following me, man. 1.00

02:44:43.000 25 fucking years. 1.00

02:44:44.000 I am your shadow. 1.00

02:44:45.000 You still following me, man?

02:44:46.000 So they found something like 48% of the people had a psychological problem.

02:44:52.000 28% of them had depression and 8% paranoia.

02:44:55.000 Drug abuse is a very large thing that happens.

02:44:57.000 And I'm starting to look at kids who are addicted to drugs, whether or not it's methamphetamine, heroin.

02:45:06.000 Oxycontin, narcotics, or whatever, that they have a history of having had head trauma.

02:45:12.000 And they've just been looking for medication drugs to help them feel better.

02:45:16.000 They're looking for their own cure.

02:45:18.000 You know, if you look back in the ADD, beginning of attention deficit disorder, you had kids looking for, they felt hyper, so they would take downers.

02:45:27.000 Well, what happens is called paradoxical.

02:45:29.000 If they take a downer, they get sped up.

02:45:31.000 They take an upper, they get sped down.

02:45:33.000 That's what Ritalin is.

02:45:34.000 That's what methamphetamine or the Adderall is.

02:45:37.000 Yeah, Adderall they prescribe for people who are too hyper.

02:45:40.000 Correct.

02:45:42.000 It doesn't make sense, but it's called paradoxical.

02:45:44.000 It does the opposite effect of what it should.

02:45:46.000 And it's only in certain people, like people with attention deficit disorder or AHDH, hyperactivity.

02:45:54.000 And...

02:45:57.000 You know, they're looking for drugs, alcohol.

02:46:01.000 A guy that came from Boston, I'll tell you a Boston story, J.R. came from Boston, a rugby player, five head traumas, three loss of consciousness, and one hospitalization. 0.99

02:46:13.000 Pussy. 1.00

02:46:13.000 Yeah, really. 1.00

02:46:14.000 And between the ages of 23 and 35, he became an alcoholic.

02:46:21.000 At 35, he crashed and burned.

02:46:23.000 And he was institutionalized.

02:46:25.000 And he was put on three antidepressants.

02:46:27.000 And he flew out from Boston.

02:46:29.000 We did our testing.

02:46:29.000 And even though he was on three antidepressants, he was still depressed.

02:46:33.000 Jesus Christ.

02:46:34.000 Still depressed.

02:46:34.000 And this is one of the hallmarks of traumatic brain injury.

02:46:37.000 It's called treatment-resistant depression.

02:46:40.000 We're finding that people who are put onto one medication and it doesn't work or two doesn't work or get shifted around because they stop working, you need to look at the hormones.

02:46:50.000 You need to look at hormones. 1.00

02:46:51.000 And we put him on 60 milligrams of testosterone because his level of testosterone was extremely low.

02:46:58.000 60 milligrams of testosterone a week.

02:47:00.000 Six months later, his psychiatrist, he had to get a new psychiatrist, took him off his drugs.

02:47:05.000 He's back in Boston.

02:47:06.000 He's in investment banking.

02:47:07.000 Now, when a guy has an issue, if there's something, or a gal, or anybody...

02:47:14.000 If you call a girl a gal, you're kind of creepy, right? 0.99

02:47:16.000 What do you want to call a girl?

02:47:17.000 A woman? 0.80

02:47:18.000 Weird. 1.00

02:47:19.000 That's a woman you definitely don't want to fuck. 1.00

02:47:21.000 Female. 1.00

02:47:21.000 Gal. 1.00

02:47:22.000 She's a great old gal. 0.99

02:47:23.000 Better call her a guy. 1.00

02:47:25.000 If someone has had enough of an impact on their brain that they have to seek exogenous hormones to fix whatever problem they have, what would you do if that person was still engaging in the very activities that caused them to have this issue with their body?

02:47:46.000 Absolutely.

02:47:47.000 You pull them.

02:47:48.000 So in MMA, when you see these people getting testosterone, what do you think about that?

02:47:55.000 Well, hopefully the doctor has done the relationship of his activity, MMA, and he's done the workup, which includes laboratory testing as well as the radiological evaluation to see what the damage is.

02:48:09.000 And if you see areas that are very classical for damage, scarring, axonal scarring, brain scarring, old bloods, I've got a case right now from the entertainment world where it's a stuntman who's been through a lot of traumas.

02:48:33.000 His last trauma, beginning of last year, Left him depressed.

02:48:38.000 He was in a coma.

02:48:39.000 Left him depressed and so forth.

02:48:41.000 And within five weeks, he's better.

02:48:42.000 And the question became, he's good enough to go back to work, but you don't want him to go back to work.

02:48:47.000 Right.

02:48:48.000 Because if he gets banged around again...

02:48:50.000 You lose everything you've gained.

02:48:52.000 Oh boy.

02:48:53.000 So this is why people don't want to talk about it.

02:48:56.000 You've got some great football players who've been dinged.

02:48:59.000 You don't want to go do that test that says, I'm sorry, but you can no longer play football.

02:49:03.000 You're 25 years of age and you've got scars in the brain, which mean you're at high risk for developing the CTE. Do you remember when that football player died because he fell out of the back of his truck?

02:49:14.000 His girlfriend was driving away in his truck. 0.89

02:49:16.000 They did a brain scan on him after he died, and they did his autopsy, and they found out he had the brain of an Alzheimer's patient.

02:49:22.000 That's right, CTE. And here's another thing.

02:49:24.000 And he was young, right?

02:49:25.000 He was young.

02:49:26.000 In...

02:49:27.000 I didn't bring my presentation.

02:49:28.000 I do. 0.99

02:49:29.000 What the fuck? 0.99

02:49:30.000 Sorry. 1.00

02:49:30.000 Come on, man. 1.00

02:49:31.000 I didn't know you had PPT available.

02:49:32.000 Why don't you be professional?

02:49:33.000 I have lava lamps here and rock salt.

02:49:35.000 I see that.

02:49:36.000 Lights.

02:49:36.000 Nice color.

02:49:37.000 And everything.

02:49:38.000 I figured you would be prepared.

02:49:39.000 So what they found is with head trauma, you'll develop Alzheimer's disease 19 times faster than if you don't have head trauma.

02:49:50.000 Jesus Christ.

02:49:51.000 19 times.

02:49:52.000 And I was in Vegas giving a lecture on traumatic brain injury, and there was a doc talking specifically about head trauma and Alzheimer's.

02:49:58.000 And his documentation was irrefutably supportive of the relationship, and they know it.

02:50:04.000 So they don't want to tell someone, look, keep playing football.

02:50:07.000 Likelihood is you'll retire and you'll develop Alzheimer's and die at 54. How old was Andre Waters?

02:50:13.000 I don't know.

02:50:14.000 Young guys, though.

02:50:15.000 He was young.

02:50:15.000 All the guys that have died.

02:50:17.000 Who was the last one in San Diego who died at 24 years of age?

02:50:22.000 I don't know.

02:50:25.000 Depressing.

02:50:25.000 So, in your opinion, as an expert on the subject, when a guy gets to a point where he needs testosterone because of this, they really shouldn't be engaging in whatever caused them to lose their ability to produce testosterone.

02:50:40.000 That would be a late case scenario.

02:50:42.000 So someone getting a testosterone use exemption for mixed martial arts, in your opinion, would be a bad idea?

02:50:47.000 Correct.

02:50:48.000 Especially if it was due to positive findings of damage by DT MRI or functional MRI or MRI. That's the thing about when someone has a testosterone use exemption, they don't have to specify the cause of testosterone being low.

02:51:07.000 They just find that it is and then supplement it.

02:51:10.000 How could they find what it is?

02:51:12.000 I mean, what are the various reasons why people, besides aging, why people don't have good testosterone?

02:51:21.000 Female? 0.98

02:51:21.000 No, females have high levels. 0.98

02:51:23.000 You know, having had testicular trauma, cooking your testicles... 1.00

02:51:29.000 I cook them. 0.98

02:51:31.000 Talk about greater than 105 degrees.

02:51:34.000 Saute with a little oil, a little basil.

02:51:36.000 Yeah, put the onions in it.

02:51:38.000 So... 0.60

02:51:41.000 Head trauma, it's the regulatory mechanism in the brain, and then you have peripheral, which is the testicle itself.

02:51:47.000 Any kind of damage, infections, mumps.

02:51:49.000 You're talking about mumps. 0.96

02:51:50.000 Mumps can cause the testicles to stop working. 0.98

02:51:53.000 Okay?

02:51:54.000 So just a viral infection, you can get loss of testicular function.

02:51:59.000 But in someone who is MMA, I would have to really think long and hard about, hmm, he has testosterone deficiency, he's been in MMA for six years, and he's had, you know, five documented loss of consciousness.

02:52:12.000 He's beaten over the head.

02:52:14.000 Who knows how many times in training?

02:52:16.000 Correct.

02:52:17.000 Yeah.

02:52:18.000 Wow.

02:52:18.000 I have a guy that was in training and got KO'd.

02:52:21.000 Yeah, that happens all the time, and then guys wind up fighting just a couple of weeks later, and they can't take a punch.

02:52:27.000 We've seen it many times.

02:52:29.000 Marvin Eastman, Travis Luter is a famous fight where Travis Luter knocked out Marvin Eastman with a punch that looked like it barely connected, and it turned out that we had heard that Marvin Eastman had been in training camp and had gotten hurt in training camp, gotten knocked out maybe twice, at least once.

02:52:44.000 He's a great fighter, too, a really tough guy, so it didn't make any sense that he couldn't take a punch like that.

02:52:49.000 It was one of those weird cases.

02:52:51.000 What we're starting to see on the internet, which might be a backdoor type of self-analysis, are these cognitive testing programs.

02:52:59.000 There's one called IMPACT, which is out of Pennsylvania with the doctor who is the neurosurgeon for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

02:53:10.000 Watch this.

02:53:11.000 Travis Luter hits him with his punch.

02:53:13.000 It's crazy.

02:53:14.000 And he goes down like he got shot by a sniper.

02:53:17.000 It's really crazy.

02:53:18.000 Watch this.

02:53:21.000 I mean, he kind of connected, but...

02:53:25.000 He's totally out?

02:53:26.000 Totally out.

02:53:27.000 Like, watch the punch again.

02:53:29.000 I mean, a pretty good shot, but man, it seemed like he was on the very end of it.

02:53:33.000 It just didn't seem like it should have that kind of impact.

02:53:35.000 I mean, Travis does hit really hard.

02:53:37.000 Very strong guy.

02:53:38.000 But then when you found out that he...

02:53:40.000 I mean, he definitely really got hurt by that punch, but going out like that seems unusual.

02:53:44.000 And I think it was because...

02:53:46.000 See, it like grazes him.

02:53:47.000 They said Marvin had gotten KO'd in training.

02:53:51.000 That happened also to Forrest Griffin.

02:53:54.000 Before he fought Anderson Silva, he apparently had gotten KO'd in training.

02:53:58.000 I think he said twice, too.

02:54:01.000 I'm pretty sure.

02:54:02.000 And they're additive.

02:54:04.000 Cumulative, right?

02:54:05.000 They're cumulative, additive, cumulative, and it just gets easier. 1.00

02:54:09.000 I hate to have to correct you in front of all these people, but sometimes you just fuck up, dude. 0.99

02:54:13.000 You think you're so smart. 1.00

02:54:16.000 Only you're the one who thinks I'm so smart.

02:54:18.000 Why do you think I spend five days a week reading?

02:54:21.000 Because I know so little.

02:54:22.000 Yeah, well, that's very, very humble of you.

02:54:24.000 You're also a martial artist.

02:54:25.000 So this is something that's not, like, alien to you.

02:54:28.000 You've practiced martial arts for a long time.

02:54:30.000 Yeah, I did Taekwondo, secondary black belt on the cover of Martial Arts Magazine.

02:54:35.000 Cover of a magazine, son. 0.99

02:54:37.000 Throwing sidekicks on bitches. 1.00

02:54:39.000 With my master, Byung-Yu's foot in my mouth. 1.00

02:54:42.000 Oh, did it taste good?

02:54:43.000 No, it didn't.

02:54:45.000 Yeah, I would imagine.

02:54:46.000 I was waiting for you to answer.

02:54:47.000 You answered correct.

02:54:50.000 If people want to know more about this, if they're fascinated by it, if they think perhaps they might have an issue themselves, what is the website?

02:54:56.000 The website is tbimedlegal.com.

02:55:03.000 That's very hard to remember.

02:55:05.000 Yeah.

02:55:06.000 tbimedlegal.com.

02:55:07.000 And it has about 100 articles that are abstracted, very short.

02:55:11.000 Oh, you put a link up for people that are listening to this podcast.

02:55:14.000 Right. 1.00

02:55:14.000 You crafty bastard. 1.00

02:55:15.000 You're so professional. 1.00

02:55:16.000 You make me sad.

02:55:18.000 I do?

02:55:19.000 Yeah, because I'm not that professional.

02:55:20.000 Go ahead and click it.

02:55:21.000 What happens when you click it?

02:55:22.000 It explodes.

02:55:23.000 Oh, thank you, Joe Rogan.

02:55:25.000 But that's not...

02:55:25.000 Did you sign up for this under my name or something?

02:55:28.000 No, no, I just clicked it.

02:55:29.000 Oh, it just says that.

02:55:29.000 There's a little office for people to read that.

02:55:31.000 Yeah, it's information which goes through it.

02:55:33.000 Oh, I see, I see, I see.

02:55:35.000 So if people are curious about their own issue...

02:55:38.000 Already 30 people have already clicked it.

02:55:40.000 Wait now.

02:55:41.000 It's going to get crazy.

02:55:42.000 This is just...

02:55:43.000 Ustream has probably...

02:55:46.000 I don't know what percentage of the actual...

02:55:48.000 Very small.

02:55:48.000 Very small percentage.

02:55:49.000 Most people tend to listen to this while they're doing other things.

02:55:52.000 Like they listen to it on the subway or in the gym, on the bike or whatever.

02:55:56.000 The amount of people that actually watch us.

02:55:58.000 But the people that actually watch us are the most critical, crazed nerds.

02:56:02.000 In a good way.

02:56:03.000 In a good way. 1.00

02:56:03.000 Give me a hug, you fuck. 1.00

02:56:06.000 Before I leave. 1.00

02:56:07.000 TBI Medical.

02:56:08.000 Med Legal.

02:56:09.000 TBI Med Legal.

02:56:11.000 And they could find out all about it.

02:56:12.000 And is there anything else you want to promote or let people know about?

02:56:16.000 No, I'm not.

02:56:17.000 The only thing I really want to promote is the knowledge that there's this incredible association between head trauma, hormone deficiency, and change in personality.

02:56:28.000 And when you correct the underlying deficiency, you see people blossom.

02:56:33.000 You know, to end, I'll say that we have 30% Two-year post-traumatic brain injury gal, 32 years.

02:56:40.000 She cracked her carotid in an auto accident and partial stroke on the right side.

02:56:45.000 32 years, she's lived with incapacitation or suboptimal life on a multitude of drugs.

02:56:53.000 12 weeks after starting her program, she's off of everything.

02:56:57.000 Whoa.

02:56:58.000 And she started losing weight.

02:57:00.000 She's 53 years of age.

02:57:02.000 She started losing weight.

02:57:04.000 She's swimming again.

02:57:06.000 I was a swimmer in medical school and in undergrad.

02:57:11.000 And so she started back swimming and she's back in school.

02:57:16.000 Her life is just energized.

02:57:18.000 She feels phenomenal.

02:57:19.000 And they write their story to me and it'll be eventually posted on the website.

02:57:23.000 We have, you know, About 571, 271 patients with testosterone, then total about 500 plus people.

02:57:32.000 I've been doing this 10 years, just specifically traumatic brain, but overall 18 years with hormonal replacement, not knowing for those first years that there were so many people with traumatic, eight years, first eight years that there were so many people with traumatic deficiency.

02:57:45.000 The brain is very delicate, people.

02:57:47.000 Choose wisely, be safe, be careful, and get your dome checked out.

02:57:51.000 Right, Doc?

02:57:52.000 Absolutely.

02:57:53.000 Get your dome checked out, folks.

02:57:54.000 Thank you, everybody.

02:57:55.000 Thanks for tuning in.

02:57:56.000 And the website, one more time, is tbimedlegal.com.

02:58:00.000 Go, learn, enjoy.

02:58:02.000 Thank you.

02:58:02.000 Thank you very much.

02:58:03.000 Appreciate it, brother.

02:58:04.000 Always good.

02:58:04.000 Always cool to see you.

02:58:05.000 I knew you would be good at this.

02:58:07.000 Rogan.ting.com.

02:58:08.000 Go there.

02:58:09.000 Get yourself some Ting, you freaks.

02:58:11.000 And go to Hover.

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02:58:13.000 Use the code word POWERFUL for today's episode.

02:58:17.000 Also, thanks to Onnit.com.

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02:58:24.000 All stuff that I will give to the good doctor to have him try.

02:58:27.000 I say the good doctor. 0.99

02:58:28.000 I automatically think Hunter S. Thompson, so I automatically think you're fucked up on drugs. 0.97

02:58:32.000 I apologize for that connection. 0.98

02:58:34.000 Onnit.com.

02:58:35.000 O-N-N-I-T. Use the code word ROGAN. Save yourself 10% off.

02:58:39.000 I got a lot of stuff coming up, folks.

02:58:41.000 Next week, I have Dr. Rick Strassman.

02:58:43.000 He's going to be here on Monday.

02:58:46.000 And then Dan Doty and Remy Warren.

02:58:49.000 Remy Warren is a guy who goes solo hunting and documents them on a show called Solo Hunters. 1.00

02:58:55.000 This motherfucker... 1.00

02:58:56.000 Is out in Africa hunting with a bow and arrow by himself and some cameras. 1.00

02:59:00.000 It's amazing stuff.

02:59:03.000 Brian Dunning's favorite and famous, both.

02:59:07.000 Skeptic comes in on Tuesday the 14th.

02:59:10.000 And then on the 17th, my brother Steve Rinella is going to be here again. 0.98

02:59:14.000 And we're going to discuss all kinds of groovy shit. 0.99

02:59:17.000 Alright, we love the fuck out of you people. 0.99

02:59:19.000 And we appreciate the fuck out of you people. 0.80

02:59:21.000 So appreciate yourself too. 0.96

02:59:22.000 And give yourself a big hug for me.

02:59:25.000 See you Monday.

02:59:28.000 I do.

The Joe Rogan Experience - January 08, 2014

Joe Rogan Experience #438 - Dr. Mark Gordon

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