In this episode, we have a guest on the show, Dr. John Lilly. Dr. Lilly is a neurologist who specializes in brain imaging and has worked with some of the best minds in the world. He's been in the business for a long time and is a proponent of the isolation tank. We talk about how important it is to have an isolation tank and why it's important to have one in your home. We also talk about the dangers of ketamine and how it can be used in a controlled environment. We also get into the future of technology and its impact on the way we live and work and the impact it can have on our everyday lives. This episode is a must listen! Enjoy and spread the word to your friends and family about this podcast! If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and other podcasting platforms. We'll be looking out for your comments and suggestions for future guests! Thank you so much for listening and supporting the show! Timestamps: 1:00 - What's your favorite part of the podcast? 2:30 - What do you think of the show? 3:40 - How do you feel about it? 4:20 - What would you like to see it in the next episode? 5:10 - Do you have a suggestion for the next guest? 6:00 7:00- What is your favorite piece of advice you'd like us to add to the show next week? 8:15 - What are you looking forward to hear from someone else's story? 9:30- What are your thoughts on a friend s experience? 11:40- What s your favorite moment of the past day? 13:00 +11:15- What's the most interesting thing you've seen so far? 15:00+ - What kind of thing you're going to do next? 16:20- Do you think you re going to be the most important thing you re looking at the most challenging part of your day so far in your life right now? 17:50 - what do you're most excited about the next thing? 18:30 + +1: what's your biggest takeaway from this one? 19:30 & 15:40 +1) - What s the biggest thing you ve heard so far so far from a new piece of evidence?
00:00:00.000And they move shit around and put things in weird places.
00:00:02.000And when you read the translation, you're like, what the fuck does this mean?
00:00:05.000Well, they're figuring out how to translate it, not just both word for word, but figuring out how you would say that same sentence in English.
00:00:20.000And I also wonder, after 50 or so years of everybody using English on the internet, how many kids are going to grow up just as English as their new language and their original languages, like the old-fashioned thing their parents did.
00:00:34.000Could you imagine if there was only one language?
00:00:36.000Could you imagine how much shit would get done?
00:00:38.000You know what's interesting, though, when you say that?
00:00:40.000Languages are going to go away by technology very, very, very fast.
00:01:30.000Pretty boring brown shower shoes, but...
00:01:32.000Imagine when they figure out how to stimulate the mind to create certain states and...
00:01:38.000And they do it in conjunction with the tank, which is really the way to do it, because it eliminates all the sensory input from this world.
00:01:45.000If they could figure out how to do that, put some electrodes on your head, and set you in that fucking tank, and light you up like a Christmas tree, and you just go into some other world, then maybe people will stop talking.
00:01:55.000I think Dr. Lilly did that to me with 1cc ketamine injected, you know?
00:02:04.000Well, when I got there, actually, I was going to go into the tank just, you know, straight.
00:02:10.000And you get a rinse off and everything before you go in the tank.
00:02:13.000And the guy was prepping me and he says, you know, usually when we do it, we go in with one cc injected intermuscularly, you know, ketamine, you know, would you like some?
00:02:21.000And I hear part of my brain go, no, no drugs, thanks.
00:02:25.000And then I hear my mouth go, oh, absolutely, I'd love some.
00:02:29.000And then I felt like a complete third person in my own reality because he said, no problem, you know, it's injected into muscularly, is that a problem?
00:02:37.000And my side of my brain went, needles, no!
00:02:40.000My mouth, however, went, no problem, that'd be great.
00:04:09.000And the funnier side of this was my good friend was in the other room, and I was back around panic noise while all this was going on, and he didn't know about the ketamine entering into the equation.
00:04:19.000And he was sitting there with Dr. Lilly and his assistant at the time, Craig, and they had no concern of me sounding like I'm drowning.
00:04:26.000And finally he asked, you know, is he on ketamine?
00:04:31.000And Craig said yes, and he said, would you go get me some?
00:05:45.000I felt like there was a telepathic communication as much as this is going to blow all of the credibility I just had about talking about pot.
00:05:51.000Yeah, I actually felt like Dr. Lilly and I communicated on a level that was more telepathic during the time I was under the drug.
00:06:15.000Here's how McKenna described ketamine.
00:06:17.000He said that it was like you, he believed that when you did psychedelics, you somehow or another connected to the experience that everybody had doing those psychedelics before you.
00:06:27.000That's one of the reasons why the mushroom experience is so rich and diverse.
00:06:30.000It says thousands and thousands and millions of people over the years have done mushrooms and you're connected to this one big gigantic growing experience.
00:06:37.000He said doing ketamine, he said ketamine is so much more rare that really it gave him the feeling like he was in an abandoned warehouse or an office building with no furniture in it.
00:06:47.000I felt very alone in my trip initially, and then when I felt like there was another energy around me, it did feel different, and it was weird.
00:06:55.000I had a long conversation with John after, and I really liked the old guy.
00:08:27.000And I think a lot of people have never really been able to meditate within themselves.
00:08:30.000And when you get in this tank and there's no resistance on your body and you can actually really hear and you don't really see and you feel the same temperature as the surroundings around you, you really feel so boundless.
00:08:51.000When you learn how to relax, once you learn how to relax, and it takes a few times, you have to do it a bunch of times, and depending on your personality, how good you are at truly letting go, but if you really learn how to let go, man, you go on trips and that thing.
00:09:03.000Dude, I used to, I used to, I'd set an alarm at like 4 a.m.
00:09:05.000if I went to sleep before midnight, and I'd just like walk, because I had mine in my bedroom, I'd walk right to my tank, get back in it, and like go back to sleep, and like 4, 5, 6 o'clock, I would always wake up before 7, Feeling like, man, I just slept for so long, and I felt great, and my dreams would be so lucid, so incredibly real and tangible, and holy shit, I want to go write them down lucid.
00:10:22.000Yeah, and meanwhile Obama's passing on his legislation making it easier for people to wiretap your emails and get into your fucking Twitter account and your Facebook pages.
00:10:32.000They're passing all this legislation right under everybody's noses.
00:11:34.000If you look at what every single intelligent life form on this planet does, they're going to make sure that they exploit everything weaker than them.
00:11:47.000That's the ethic of space, it seems like.
00:11:49.000It's the ethic of life on this planet.
00:11:57.000What human beings do to dolphins and SeaWorld and what we do to killer whales, we know that killer whales rescue human beings that fall off boats.
00:12:05.000We know that there's never been a case in the wild of a killer whale, a documented case, killing a human.
00:12:09.000The only times they've ever done it is in captivity.
00:12:28.000And that's one of the reasons, yeah, the dolphins rape the fuck out of each other too.
00:12:32.000And one of the reasons why female dolphins are whores is female dolphins are super slutty.
00:12:36.000And the reason being is because they have to fuck as many male dolphins as possible so that when they have babies, those male dolphins won't kill the babies.
00:12:43.000So the male dolphin will go, I fucked that bitch, that might be mine.
00:15:43.000That's why the Proposition 8 passed in California.
00:15:47.000A lot of gay people were really pissed off at black folks because black folks voted some ridiculous number.
00:15:53.000Hey, those white folks should be mad at their Christian siblings who brought Christianity to all these poor people, you know, because that's really the problem.
00:16:01.000Okay, well, you're going back a little bit far with your blame there, fella.
00:17:33.000And they get to wear their dresses and have their fabulous cars and drink out of their gold chalices and be covered in all these colors and live in total secrecy and then pick out the little gay kids right out of the straight audience.
00:17:45.000The only flaw is that they think hate Madonna.
00:20:20.000The whole idea that they'll make fun of fucking Muslims or they'll make fun of Scientologists, they'll make fun of, you know, like, oh, they've got the wrong thing.
00:20:31.000But see, I argue that everybody's an atheist because a Jew doesn't believe in a Christian God and a Christian God doesn't believe in Buddha.
00:20:36.000And a Buddha doesn't believe in a Jewish God and none of them believe in Muhammad.
00:20:40.000So it's really they're all atheists because they don't believe in anything but their little fantasy.
00:21:07.000It's amazing that there's so many different religions, but even though we know that they all say different shit, everyone is willing to die believing that the one they believe is right.
00:21:17.000Even though there's so many examples of contradicting ideas.
00:21:21.000For whatever fucking reason, we compartmentalize that when we go down the road of being a Mormon or go down the road of being a Catholic or a Baptist.
00:21:41.000When I was in Indiana, I was in Indiana for a UFC. Anybody who fought somebody from Indiana, even if they were American, they would boo them.
00:21:55.000Indiana's great, don't get me wrong, but the mentality is so fucked up that you're booing against other Americans because they're not from a similar place.
00:22:05.000They're not within a certain distance of where you sleep, so you don't even like them right now.
00:23:35.000You know, in Ohio, the farms are getting so bad that they're closing farms left and right that a lot of the farms are turning into shopping centers.
00:23:41.000Where my mom lived, just in five years, used to be farms everywhere.
00:23:45.000And now it's like commercial buildings and they're losing all these farms because there's no money in it or something's not going on right in the farming industry in Ohio.
00:23:55.000Well, it's very difficult to run a farm and make a profit.
00:26:42.000Well, you know, some of the things that people are coming out against, Prop 19 is saying, is that it's going to lend itself to corporations.
00:26:51.000Well, believe it or not, we have a lot of people that are in the medical marijuana industry that don't want to see Prop 19 pass because they're comfortable right now and they're profiteering, and they don't want to see a status quo change.
00:27:01.000And it's really sad because these are the people that benefit the most when their local communities allow them to start selling to anybody over 21 without a doctor's note.
00:27:09.000Right, but the doctors who've been making their living for all these years, giving away prescriptions and charging $150 a pop, that's that source of income these guys have.
00:27:18.000Doctors were historically wealthy, and they'll do fine actually practicing medicine, I'm sure.
00:27:23.000Maybe, but when you're set up for years and years and years just giving out medical marijuana prescriptions and you're comfortable with it, then all of a sudden something's going to come along to make your business go away, and you're going to have to come up with some whole new business.
00:27:35.000If you're a selfish douchebag, I could see where you'd be like, man, I don't want this to pass.
00:27:38.000Isn't that why the alcohol beverage industry is giving to the campaign against us?
00:27:58.000Realistically, though, Prop 19 was passed by somebody that – as somebody I've known for over 15 years, he's a really good person that really just wanted to do the right thing.
00:28:07.000He wanted to put forward a more liberal initiative, but he had cash, and he polled the initiatives, and he found that more liberal initiatives were not polling well enough to actually pass.
00:28:17.000So he actually pulled back, pulled back, pulled back on the verbiage.
00:28:20.000Until he got an initiative that pulled well enough to pass.
00:28:24.000And what a lot of people don't realize is that this is not the means to the end.
00:28:27.000This is just, or this is a means to the end.
00:28:30.000It's just one small step in the evolution of getting our freedoms back.
00:28:34.000And this Prop 19 is going to be one step closer to having our rights back.
00:28:38.000and what a lot of people are talking about which is pissing me off is that we got Meg Whitman buying her way into the governorship and we have Steve Cooley who has been the guy down here in LA for those of you who don't live in LA who has been closing down all the Los Angeles bot clubs and if this guy gets the top cop position in the state of California and Prop 19 loses all of these idiots and I'll say you are idiots that are going against Prop 19 that are selling medical marijuana are gonna lose your businesses and lose your freedoms
00:29:05.000And the only thing that's going to protect you right now is if everybody in this state gets the rights that you have been getting for the last 14 years since medical marijuana.
00:29:36.000And when he gets in, his agenda is to do in the state what he's already done in L.A. Well, why does he want to shut down medical pot stores?
00:29:43.000Ideologically, who knows what he's invested in?
00:31:00.000This is the part that kind of bothers me.
00:31:02.000This is more of what we've had for a long time.
00:31:04.000It's just that now we're looking at it and we're grossed out by it.
00:31:06.000But don't think before newspapers and internet carried the word that robber barons weren't running politics going back to the 30s and 40s and 50s.
00:31:14.000And when I say they, I don't mean to sound like some conspiracy nut.
00:31:17.000I mean to sound like somebody that's realistic about the fact that alcohol got together after Prohibition and went, yo, who's our competition?
00:31:24.000Oh, these kids are smoking this loco weed out of...
00:31:59.000And I'd love to know what her portfolio is vested in because she has people that are actually standing there saying, this is what I'll advise you to do.
00:32:06.000And anybody that's advising somebody that has literally hundreds of millions of dollars vested away is going to say, listen, this initiative is bad for your liquor investments.
00:32:14.000It's bad for your pharmaceutical investments.
00:32:16.000It's bad for your petrochemical investments.
00:32:19.000I think a lot of why we're dealing with prohibition and why we're dealing with people that are against it is because of the financial connections they have.
00:32:25.000And the more wealthy they are, the more people lean against them.
00:32:28.000How few, in a sense, do we have of you?
00:32:31.000Because here you are a guy that made it in TV. Five years on news radio, five plus years on Fear Factor.
00:33:21.000A lot of people have families and they want to play it safe and they feel conservative and they get paranoid and they don't trust in the greater good of humanity and people's ability to see what they're seeing.
00:33:32.000They don't have faith in their ability to express themselves so that people understand the point of view that they have and where they're coming from.
00:33:38.000I have confidence in my ability to express myself.
00:35:07.000What if she wins and she gets into a position where one of these crazy fucks from another country tests her because she's a woman?
00:35:14.000I mean, if assuming that political power is real and that the president really has any say and that anybody in another country really does pay attention to him, that it's not all this big, gigantic Bilderberger meeting group...
00:36:52.000But I don't think anybody should be a leader.
00:36:54.000I think the whole idea is based on some...
00:36:56.000I like that so much when you say that.
00:36:57.000It's based on some leftover fucking shit from back when we were a tribe of 200 monkey people, and we needed a leader to protect us from the other monkey people who wanted to rape our women and take our food.
00:38:56.000But, after a while, it's not that anymore.
00:38:58.000After a while, it's like, well, you're the figurehead for the retard movement, and you're just like them, and you got a microphone on you, and there's a spotlight on you, and oh, now you're a fucking problem, because you never were supposed to get to this point.
00:39:08.000And somehow you've artificially been inserted into the public consciousness with no merit, and now all the retards go, just like me!
00:40:49.000If you look at lava and the center and the magnetic core and you look at the magnetosphere and the atmosphere, it's not just a place where life is.
00:45:52.000They were doing this to try to emulate.
00:45:54.000Maybe not, because look at these Africans cutting the fucking holes in their lips and sticking plates in there, or the dudes cutting holes in their heads and letting the air out.
00:48:37.000We live our lives based on myths and bullshit, TV shows and movies, and we have this distorted perception of what this fucking world is all about.
00:48:45.000So most people, especially with the situation that we have now, the way our world is set up, it's so easy for a moron to just drift through and be taken care of every step of the way, and yet have opinions, and yet be able to vote.
00:48:56.000George Bush Jr. Well, Sarah Palin, man.
00:49:12.000The saddest part of his life was when he was in the hospital dead, dying, and his fucking crazy cunt ex-wife takes a picture and sells it to him, like, all strapped up with pipes and shit, dying in bed, and she's right next to him with his, like, dead...
00:50:08.000Really, I'm finding them annoying right now because I can't believe all these people I was working around that I thought was working towards a common goal are now working against it.
00:50:15.000Because a lot of people are against Prop 19. That's what you're saying?
00:50:18.000A lot of people are against Prop 19 not for the right reasons either.
00:52:36.000When I was a kid, I thought marijuana was bad for you, it made you stupid, all these different things.
00:52:40.000But when I first started smoking weed, the thing that fascinated me the most was that there are two completely different strains that have very different effects.
00:53:25.000So when you go to India, all of the cannabis that's grown there is indica because it's in India.
00:53:31.000But when you go there, you'll find tropical varieties down by Goa and northern varieties up by the area that's now Pakistan and Hindu Kush.
00:53:38.000That is the entire range of cannabis and it's all indica.
00:54:20.000In the 60s and 70s, all the pot that was coming into America was like Acapulco Gold, Michoacan, Maui Waui, Jamaican.
00:54:26.000All of these strains were from near the equator.
00:54:29.000They made you happy, horny, well-organized, wanting to do things like protest.
00:54:33.000And then the hippies went to Afghanistan.
00:54:35.000They found this short, fat-leaved plant that they thought was indica, and they started mixing it with all these tropical varieties like Maui Waui and Thai stick and stuff, and they shortened the time it takes to flower cannabis, and they picked varieties that yielded the most amount of pot because it was prohibited.
00:54:51.000And the reason being is that the ones that were equatorial, the ones that were Growing on the equator needed a longer cycle of sun.
00:56:13.000And almost everyone is used to indica because indica is the easiest shit to grow.
00:56:17.000Indica is the shit that you're getting if you're getting it from, you know, some dudes are coming down from, you know, they're in Canada growing in the fucking forest.
00:56:24.000It grows the fastest and yields the most.
00:56:26.000And now that we're getting through prohibition, we'll see these varieties that take longer and yield less, but have a profoundly different effect on our energy and our thinking and our motivation.
00:58:33.000My haze, my sativa, you're calling it, came back at 23.7 THC, and my OG Kush indica, you're calling it, came back at 20.6 THC. There was a 3.1 difference in THC. Right, but aren't there a bunch of different things, cannabinoids, other than THC that make up the high?
00:58:48.000It's not just THC. Well, actually, I think that there was a doctor in an institute...
00:58:52.000By the way, we should point out that Todd knows his shit.
00:59:27.000It is, and there's a lot of differences.
00:59:28.000When people try to say, oh, generalized, this is how you grow pot, you can tell they've never grown pot because pot is very different to grow.
01:00:11.000Males actually create their pollen sacks faster than the females actually develop their buds.
01:00:17.000And in hemp, for instance, the males pollinate and then die off early.
01:00:21.000And the Roman Catholic Church miscategorized the male and female plants, even though the female had the seeds, and even though the male blew the pollen, they didn't like that the male died off early, so they called the male the female and the female the male.
01:00:43.000Say if you've grown a bunch of weed plants, you have to keep an eye on them bitches because they're all males.
01:00:48.000It's like certain leaves, like little tiny ball leaves.
01:00:51.000What they do is they develop these little male pollen sacs, if you will, and what they do is they come off the flower different.
01:00:59.000They come off the plant and they hang like little ball sacs and they open up and then the pollen, this is a male flower open, the pollen is carried to the, if you've ever seen little red hairs on your pot, those are the sex glands and they are what the pollen attracts to.
01:01:40.000That's why we grow seedless cannabis because it's like tricking the female into like really producing a lot of resins and a lot of, you know, she's waiting, waiting, waiting to be fertilized and it never comes.
01:01:51.000Well, you know, potency I think is an interesting conversation.
01:01:55.000There was a doctor at the Institute of Medicine who got up one day and he said, I gave my patients 10 mg THC and they had a known effect and then I gave them 10 mg THC and 1 mg CBN and it doubled the effective dose and I shot my hand up and I said, hey, Would that replicate in nature?
01:02:11.000And when I put my hand down, my publisher said, what did you two geeks just ask each other?
01:02:15.000And I said, basically, he told me to breed hemp in with my drug varieties because CBN, for instance, is a chemical that's mostly found in hemp.
01:02:22.000And as we have bred away from the characteristics of these equatorial varieties that are more hemp-like, We have actually bred more towards the drug varieties and we've lowered the chemical of CBN down while raising THC up with less of an effective rate.
01:02:38.000So now we have THC levels over 20% that don't hit us as hard as I believe is if we had a little bit of CBN mixed in with it.
01:02:46.000How many different cannabinoids are there inside a marijuana plant?
01:02:50.000Well, there are over 400 chemicals created by the cannabis plant, and that's the definition of a cannabinoid.
01:02:56.000And the reality is that 60 of them are known to be therapeutic.
01:03:04.000And what's going to happen is that as science understands these elements of it more...
01:03:09.000Then they'll be able to better direct what the different chemicals and also terpenes.
01:03:13.000Because terpenes are these volatile oils that are on the bud.
01:03:17.000And what happens is they're kind of steamed off when it's dried.
01:03:19.000So if anybody's ever picked up a cannabis flower and it had good body and you squished it and it still had moisture and you could smell it was real strong, those terpenes were intact.
01:03:28.000And that has a psychoactive effect as well.
01:03:30.000And a synergistic psychoactive effect with the chemicals inside.
01:03:46.000Sometimes I put it on top of the TV. But the reality is because a lot of what he's getting is people that are hurrying to market and they sell pot that's not dry and not cured.
01:03:56.000The best cannabis is actually not just dried but cured and then stored for about three months.
01:04:32.000Well, not the kind that the hippies make probably.
01:04:35.000I have some of those old fucking Nestle's Quick bars that they made with weed.
01:04:43.000You know, a lot of why I don't eat cannabis that's provided to me by people is because I don't know the conditions in which it's made and I don't trust the way they handled it and stuff.
01:04:52.000Not just measuring because you don't know how strong it's going to be.
01:04:55.000Interestingly enough, in Holland, hash bonbons and brownies are considered a hard drug.
01:05:13.000When you eat weed, it goes through your liver and kidneys, and it actually turns a chemical process, and it turns the psychoactive chemical THC into another chemical called 11-hydroxy metabolite.
01:05:22.000And that 11-hydroxy is two to five times more psychoactive than the cannabis.
01:05:29.000Actually, it's three to five times was the estimate I saw out of the University of Mississippi.
01:05:33.000And you don't get THCV, I mean 11-hydroxy, in your bloodstream when you smoke cannabis.