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00:01:38.000I love when artists get together like that and create something fucking nutty.
00:01:42.000We were talking about this before the podcast, and it's, you know, total retard hippie talk, but what the fuck is music, and what does it do?
00:03:33.000I just need to clear my cache, because seriously, everything that comes up on my toolbar...
00:03:37.000Have you just been beating it furiously lately?
00:03:40.000Brian, if you don't know, ladies and gentlemen, Brian had a very lust-filled, short-term relationship, which was filled with passion and a loss of fluids, and then as quickly as the storm came into town, the storm left...
00:06:03.000man these dogs were so cool they just had this air about them like hi hi come on in meanwhile they would do bite work like he would have these dudes in a suit and they would hold them back and they let the dog loose it was like a meat cannon like like you shot a side of beef at this dude's arm the thing would just latch out of the guy and bring him down i'm like what a crazy thing you've engineered yeah this like dog that will respond to your every command is super intelligent and is And can mimic the primal attack mode and then shut it off.
00:06:32.000And shut it right off and be super friendly.
00:06:34.000Do physically exactly what he's designed to do to kill and then stop.
00:06:38.000Dude, that was the most impressive thing to me when we were on Fear Factor is what people have done with dog breeding and dog training.
00:06:45.000Dogs that really know their shit, they're impressive, man.
00:06:50.000They're giving them treats, and they're setting them up, and they're giving them their affection, and they're giving them their recognition for what they've done.
00:06:59.000It's pretty nuts that we figured out a way to do that.
00:07:01.000I always think it's kind of funny that people will...
00:07:03.000I totally love and respect people rescuing animals.
00:07:06.000I think that's a beautiful thing that people do.
00:07:08.000And then, you know, there's the other people who will buy like a budget animal, you know, which is definitely coming from a bad place if you're buying like a dog for like a hundred bucks.
00:07:16.000Sometimes people just fall in love too.
00:13:00.000He has one, and the fucking thing got out and killed a gang of goats.
00:13:04.000Killed, like, got out of his, he has like a ranch, and it got from his ranch and went into the neighbor's ranch, and just started jacking their animals.
00:15:08.000If there's only one monster, a fucking goblin, ate some old lady's head once in 1812, that would be the most haunted woods for the history of time.
00:15:17.000You'd be like, that thing's real and it's out there?
00:15:19.000Well, wolves are for fucking sure real.
00:16:22.000Creepy and Eerie were like these really cool comic books that were like black and white, like really cool illustrations and it was all like monster stories.
00:16:30.000And one of them was about this werewolf that was sneaking into these people that had sheep and they were living in the Old West or some shit and they had sheep and the werewolf would sneak into their pen and kill all the sheep.
00:16:42.000And then the guy goes out there and he gets attacked by this werewolf.
00:16:44.000And I'm like, wow, how crazy would that be if a werewolf was out there sneaking into people's pens and killing all their animals?
00:20:11.000You zigged when you could have zagged, and you could have walked right on to a mother cougar, protected her young.
00:20:17.000You could have fucked up and walked into a fucking grizzly bear, and it could have been with its cobs and freaked out and decided to eat your face.
00:21:01.000Do you really think the universe gives a fuck?
00:21:03.000If you're around a predator and it wants to eat and it looks at you and says, I think I ate one of these back in the 90s, I'll try it again.
00:26:00.000If you're holding them and feeding them every day, and they're a little thing on your arm, and you get shot in the head with a howitzer, they'll go, well, I guess I'm not hanging out here anymore.
00:26:39.000But it turned out that it was a domesticated hawk, so I was able to give it the meat, and then it dug it, and then it hopped on the kitchen glove.
00:31:45.000That's one of the worst predicaments in the history of the media for an actor.
00:31:51.000For an actor to have done, that was one of the worst predicaments.
00:31:55.000You know, that's like, you know, like people have caught people with hookers, like Hugh Grant got busted with hookers, and you know, and Alec Baldwin yelled at his kid.
00:32:21.000What he was trying to do is say something completely shocking about And somehow or another rescue himself from a bad situation where he was bombing.
00:32:30.000And he wanted to figure out how to get them, how to hurt them, how to let them know that he didn't give a fuck.
00:32:37.000Like, oh, you're going to fuck with my show?
00:35:39.000It should always be like whenever you're in any environment where you're not allowed to say certain words, you make that environment at least 20% bullshit at all times.
00:35:48.000Any work environment that you're at, nobody's really totally being themselves.
00:35:51.000Everybody has to have this stupid guard up.
00:35:54.000Because you can't say cunt and you can't say fuck and you can't say shit and you can't talk honestly about how you feel about things.
00:36:00.000No, you're in a professional working environment.
00:36:03.000Except at Fleshlight, I'll have to say.
00:38:37.000I was actually out there in Africa, Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, and out with some of the tribesmen.
00:38:42.000We were working with some of the men out there to try and actually instill traditional martial arts into them.
00:38:48.000So you're teaching martial arts to the tribesmen?
00:38:51.000Yeah, and some of the inner city, the slum kids, because really they have a whole generation of fathers that are gone from AIDS. Just no father figures, so they have nothing else to really go to.
00:39:01.000So they get picked up by gangs, they get picked up by these war parties, and then they get turned into little killers.
00:39:05.000So what we're trying to do is show them some kind of paternal discipline and show them that they can be strong and powerful without having to be in a gang.
00:39:13.000And it was a really cool program, and it worked, but it's fucking intense out there, man.
00:42:55.000The one that's easier to figure out, but I think maybe the worst, is the clitorectomies that are done by the Maasai tribe, traditional Maasai.
00:44:40.000And what they really are is the grandchildren and children of fucking savages.
00:44:46.000People in Ireland and Poland and England...
00:44:50.000That life over there sucked so much cock that they were willing to get on a boat for months and come to someplace they didn't even know what the fuck it was.
00:44:59.000And so then they get there and then they huddle up and they try to figure out this new place and fight off the fucking Indians and do whatever they have to do to make a business.
00:45:06.000Everybody smart goes, there's got to be someplace better than this.
00:45:12.000Devote your vital energy to something besides bare survival.
00:45:15.000Yeah, so that is the civilization beginning, is Sumer.
00:45:20.000And that is Iraq, and that is the Middle East.
00:45:23.000That's why the Middle East is so fucked up.
00:45:25.000That's why there's such haters over there.
00:45:26.000You know, I have a theory that I don't think has been explored very much, but it seems like in the desert areas of the world, they're very patriarchal-dominated.
00:45:34.000And then you get to the coastlands, you get to the jungles.
00:45:36.000They have a lot more matriarchal societies that have a lot more respect for women and the religions appear different.
00:45:42.000Something about that dry, arid landscape.
00:45:45.000And of course, the major desert religions, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, have kind of really taken hold there.
00:45:51.000For whatever reason, that kind of patriarchal dominance that occurs out there in the desert areas is different.
00:46:17.000You know, if their ideology about like, and I don't know how recent it's been that they've been so strict with women with the clitorectomies and with the burkas.
00:46:37.000When you have a situation where there's a lot of fear and a lot of religious fanaticism, it's really hard to change because everybody's scared.
00:46:43.000Well, even the females for the clitorectomies, some of them feel like they can't become a woman until they get it.
00:46:49.000So if they make it illegal, it's actually forcing some women underground to get them done in even worse conditions than the flint rock and the chisel or whatever they use to get it done.
00:47:06.000It's one of those things where I think about, there's certain levels of fear when fear gets ingrained into a culture and when it's control, and that's what a lot of that is.
00:47:17.000The controlling of women with the clothing and the dancing to try to prevent other men from fucking them and all that craziness.
00:47:24.000When that shit gets a hold of a culture, it's very hard to get it out.
00:48:19.000Yeah, they definitely need some big inoculation of the retardation that they've gone through for decades and hundreds and thousands of years.
00:48:28.000They need something to get them to evolve.
00:48:31.000If you get people that are just so wacky about a certain ideology to the point where they're so nutty that you're not even allowed to draw their main dude.
00:49:05.000One of the tenets, I had a great philosophy instructor when I was going to school, and one of the tenets that he taught, he was a philosophy of religion specialist, and he said, you know, any god that should be worshipped should be worthy of worship.
00:49:17.000So if you're a god and someone's drawing you and you're going to smite them, I mean, that dude isn't worthy of worship.
00:49:23.000Well, it's the followers that smite, right?
00:49:26.000Right, but it's because they're smiting because they feel it's an offense to God.
00:49:30.000You know, like if someone's drawing you, you're not going to get pissed.
00:49:33.000So does that mean that you're better than God?
00:50:27.000I mean, if it isn't the Word of God, what is it?
00:50:29.000Is it smart people who figure some things out and somehow or another figure out how to tell it to people?
00:50:34.000And those people tell it to each other for thousands of years and then it eventually gets written down.
00:50:39.000And by that point, it's become fables and the words have been twisted and things have gotten strange and the translations are off, the memory's off.
00:50:47.000I mean, if you're dealing with something as big as the Bible, how many hundreds of pages is that?
00:51:47.000Well, at that point, though, the slave class had really outnumbered the other classes.
00:51:53.000So he says it came to him in a dream or whatever, but I think he was trying to survive.
00:51:57.000I mean, the Christianity spread in the lower classes.
00:51:59.000I mean, they idealized that theory that they were going to go to heaven and all these rich people who were putting them to work and doing shitty stuff to them, they were going to go to hell.
00:52:32.000At that point, the adoption of Christianity was like he saw the flood, he saw the tides going, and he was going to either get trampled by it or he was going to go with it.
00:52:41.000Wouldn't you have loved to have been in that war meeting?
00:54:14.000His first book goes through different passages and basically attacks the fundamentalist position of Christianity and says, look, this doesn't make sense.
00:54:37.000Like the fire and brimstone that used to be, you know, that Bosch paintings of people just getting ripped apart.
00:54:43.000And if you go to El Duomo in Florence, you look up at the ceiling and there's demons with these big, giant, big, giant wooden flaming staffs shoving them in people's asses.
00:54:52.000And like another demon that's like shoving one in some girl's pussy.
00:54:56.000And you're in this church, beautiful church.
00:54:58.000And you're like, what the fuck is up here?
00:56:15.000Isn't that amazing that if you look at the Vatican and look at a lot of the shit that Da Vinci painted, like the Sistine Chapel and stuff, no one does anything like that these days.
00:56:28.000Some of the sculptures, I looked at some of the work by this artist named Bernini.
00:56:32.000And I sat this one, and it was a lady sitting on the pillows, the name...
00:56:36.000Well, Bernini actually did the ones that were like Daphne and Apollo, and the rape of Persephone.
00:56:43.000And just to look at how he was able to sculpt someone's fingers digging into someone's flesh, like Hades is digging into Persephone, he's into her side, like grabbing the side of it.
00:56:53.000And you cannot believe that it's marble.
00:56:55.000I mean, just the way that he makes it like fleshy.
00:58:48.000And he gets there, but then around day 40, he's drinking the water from the Amazon, so all the parasites are getting him.
00:58:55.000He has an onboard doctor, and he's shocking himself with electroshock therapy to kill the parasites, and he's screaming with stuff in his head and batteries attached to him.
00:59:04.000It's nutty, but then around the 40th day, the last you ever hear from him in the documentary, he goes...
00:59:10.000I'm crossing into the fourth dimension now.
00:59:13.000And he just fucking is gone at that point.
01:00:07.000I guess when he was swimming the Yangtze, it was so dirty in some of the industrial areas that he had to have nightly blood transfusions from a nurse on the boat.
01:00:19.000The pictures of that swim are just insane.
01:00:23.000He wants to swim all of the biggest rivers of the world.
01:00:25.000What is it about people doing dangerous shit that they don't have to do?
01:00:32.000It's one thing that if you get thrown into the Amazon, you have to figure out a way to swim to stay alive and make it to the shore and then get back to safety.
01:01:36.000And I'm about to send a package, and there's this lesbian lady, and she's like so obviously dykey, just big, and she's got a mullet, and it's like the whole deal, you know?
01:01:46.000And she's got like one of those Eddie Bravo Falcon wristbands, it's like a leather strap on her wrist, and the girl in front of her is getting a package, you know?
01:01:56.000And she drops something, she's like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm so disorganized.
01:02:01.000And the lesbian goes, don't apologize for being human.
01:07:17.000I can't keep up with all those goddamn videos people are sending me.
01:07:19.000I look at my Twitter, it's like if I wanted to just waste my entire life, not waste, but use up all my time, I would just go on my Twitter and watch all the videos that people send me.
01:07:28.000All these fucked up crazy videos, over and over and over and over again, all day.
01:09:37.000I mean, what you're able to do with your mind in that situation where you can't tell when your eyes are open and your eyes are closed and there's no feeling, no sensation on your body.
01:09:47.000The amount of control I was able to exercise was amazing.
01:09:50.000Didn't find any kind of great lucid information out of it, but the experience was wild.
01:09:55.000I mean, I've never been able to see those layers.
01:12:06.000Then I'm off in the land of wild hallucinations and fucking vivid dreams and lucid dreaming and flying and communicating with entities and having things explained to you in gigantic three-dimensional numbers from an alien planet that are rotating around you in some big holoscope that's like a hologram that's shaped like the planet Earth.
01:12:27.000I was watching the universe being explained to me in letters that were from another planet and That were spinning around.
01:13:59.000He's like, that's what you're doing when you're in that kind of shamanistic experience is you're defocalizing your body and then allowing communication to come through.
01:14:19.000Obviously, there's more than two, but when it comes to this subject, there's people who've had psychedelic experiences and people who have no fucking idea what we're talking about.
01:14:27.000Literally, you think we're talking about hippie fairy dust.
01:14:45.000And if you bring up any sort of psychedelic or any sort of psychedelic compound or altered states of consciousness, they just shut off on you.
01:14:52.000They just immediately discredit everything you're saying.
01:14:55.000Well, you're just talking about getting high.
01:14:58.000They just put it in a nice little box.
01:15:02.000But if they've done mushrooms, they'll go, oh yeah.
01:15:07.000They'll look at you and go, yeah, it might be that.
01:15:10.000I've talked to some serious, serious fucking scientists, man.
01:15:14.000And guys who have PhDs and guys who work at universities, teaching schools, teaching physics courses and shit.
01:15:22.000I've talked to them about psychedelics.
01:15:24.000And I had some fascinating conversations where people who are way smarter than me, way more educated than me, way more experienced in the ways of the world, and they've had a bunch of psychedelic experiences, and they'll tell you, who knows what that is?
01:16:11.000Yeah, there's this other leaf that they needed to combine with it to actually make it work, an MAO inhibitor.
01:16:17.000And so they combine this and they make it into a tea, and it's been part of the traditional religious ceremonies down there for thousands of years.
01:16:22.000Yeah, see, what this DMT stuff is, is a chemical that...
01:16:26.000It's the most potent psychedelic drug known to man, and it exists in a bunch of different plants, but you can't eat it.
01:16:33.000Because when you eat it, it exists in so many different things.
01:16:35.000I guess your body has some protection for it.
01:16:37.000Because if you eat grass, grass has DMT in it.
01:16:40.000Well, there's a thing that your stomach makes called monoamine oxidase, and that's MAO.
01:16:44.000So these guys figured out how to mix an MAO inhibitor that kills the MAO in their system with this DMT so that they can take it orally.
01:16:52.000And you talk to, when they interview the guys, and they ask them how they figure this shit out, thousands of years ago, by the way, they said the plants talk to them.
01:17:00.000That's how they say about all the medicines that they get.
01:17:34.000You can see this written in rock paintings in Aboriginal Australia and all over the place.
01:17:39.000The vision of the serpent, he calls it the cosmic serpent, is everywhere.
01:17:42.000And what he's saying is that's actually a vision of a person's DNA, of DNA in general, not just the person's, but the DNA of life.
01:17:51.000And that you're actually, when you're in that level, you're communicating on a microbiological level with DNA, which connects everything.
01:18:00.000It's kind of like the Navi avatar principle where...
01:18:03.000Everything is connected by the universal language of DNA, and the defocalization of the ayahuasca allows you to communicate with the DNA so that the plants talk to you, that there's visions and wisdom from everything that comes.
01:18:15.000And the synthesis he's able to get, I mean, there's actually DNA emits, and one of the ways you say they communicate is DNA emits actual light.
01:18:27.000And it's too small when you isolate DNA by itself, but it'll emit a certain amount of photons.
01:18:32.000So, you know, all of these theories that, you know, you're beings of light and whatever, and everything is light, all sounds like you said, like hippie stuff, whatever, but it's cross-culturally, people say this.
01:18:42.000Well, when you do DMT, that's what you see, too.
01:18:44.000You see beings that are made out of light.
01:19:08.000You've got chemicals interacting with your brain and you go loopy for a few hours while your body tries to normalize the poison you've put in your system.
01:20:30.000Because it allowed groupthink and allowed telepathy.
01:20:33.000Like, they were going to patent it as telepathine.
01:20:35.000But they didn't realize that one of the active compounds in it had already been identified, and that was harmine.
01:20:43.000And because harmine had already been identified, because of the rules of scientific nomenclature, like the thing they were naming had already been named.
01:21:49.000It's like if you were picked up by God and taken on a magical mystery tour for three hours in a spaceship above fucking Pluto, you would be remembering that shit all the time because it was the most extreme experience a human being could ever possibly have.
01:22:01.000I've felt that in drugs where I'm like, this is the most amazing thing in the whole entire world, but I don't think about it.
01:22:18.000That this reality seems realer than the reality that I live in every day.
01:22:21.000The fact that there's something that feels like it's communicating with you and it's giving you a message that you're connected to everything and that it's a gigantic illusion created by your biology to keep you alive and to make you sustain this other world that exists in your dream consciousness.
01:22:36.000I mean, they communicate this shit to you.
01:23:54.000I think when he does talk about it, but he doesn't go into depth like me, like I'm just yapping about it, because I haven't done it in years.
01:25:45.000John Marco Allegro, who was one of the head scholars of the Dead Sea Scrolls, he was in charge of deciphering it, spent 14 years working on the oldest version of the Bible by far, and what he decided after 14 years, he wrote a book about it, that the entire Christian religion was a gigantic misunderstanding, and what it was initially all about was psychedelic mushrooms and fertility rituals.
01:26:08.000And he said, this is what the whole Christian religion was initially all about.
01:26:13.000And he has this fucking book dedicated to it.
01:28:00.000And if you look at the history of the Catholic Church, women as well, especially in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, I wonder how much of that is true because there's a lot of speculation about where they lost the way and what it was really all about.
01:28:20.000I wonder how much they let the common people know about it even back then.
01:28:24.000Maybe it was something that the elite found out about it and they tried to protect the information even from the common folk.
01:28:31.000But there also might have been a question of climate change, too.
01:28:33.000Terence McKenna had some ideas about that, and he thought that with global climate change, which is very cyclical, happens all the time, a lot of times the climate will be inhospitable for mushrooms.
01:28:46.000So instead of getting mushrooms all the time, now they can't get them anymore.
01:28:49.000And so then the culture completely changes and becomes more of an alcohol-based culture.
01:28:54.000It starts off, they start using preserved mushrooms in honey because we know they've been preserving things in honey for thousands and thousands of years.
01:29:02.000And then you deal with fermentation because honey can become a psychoactive substance on its own.
01:29:07.000It can become mead when it becomes fermented.
01:29:34.000Could you imagine if you could go to 1400 BC and just go hang around England and see what the fuck was going on in France and see how people were living in Europe?
01:30:06.000I've always been fascinated by that moment before battle, where you have an axe, or you choose between an axe, a morning star, and a sword.
01:30:16.000And you're like, what am I going to use that's going to maybe make me survive?
01:33:01.000Take some poor fucking kid who's just awesome at the Army game.
01:33:05.000It's scary to remove that personal side to killing.
01:33:09.000It's just a totally different paradigm.
01:33:11.000We were talking before the show about these guys that have been caught in Afghanistan that are U.S. soldiers that have been killing civilians and taking home little trophies.
01:34:20.000I looked at that and I'm like, that is just a dude with a very difficult job that's not all that bright and has some ideals and got stuck in this situation.
01:34:30.000Yeah, he's got to say we're going to war, but there's a machine behind that motherfucker.
01:35:34.000I bet they believe that you're really a president until they get in there.
01:35:39.000I think once you get in there, they open up these doors and you get to see the gears of the universe run.
01:35:45.000You get to see the gears of our whole system and the fucking, well, if we stop the war, we don't have the oil and society's going to fall apart and we're getting to a point of overpopulation.
01:35:55.000That's why we need these feedback camps and we have to make sure that if something goes down, we have enough caskets.
01:38:39.000Protecting the poppy fields for the Afghani farmers because in order for the Afghani farmers to support the fact that we're over in Afghanistan dropping bombs on your moms, we have to get this guy's approval and we have to allow them to keep producing their illegal crop of heroin.
01:38:55.000So we have American soldiers that are guarding Afghanistan heroin so that we can go over there and blow shit up.
01:39:11.000It's tough, but I think they figured out that his approval ratings were dropping as the economy was tightening up, and so they're like, oh, fuck it.
01:39:19.000Let's just push some more money out into the system.
01:39:21.000Push the ball up, and then it's working.
01:39:23.000If I thought that heroin was helping the economy, I'd say sell that heroin.
01:42:02.000It's ninjas at the price in Japan on friendly dolphins.
01:42:06.000There are certain supply and demand factors involved in the oil as well, specifically, but on a macro level, it's all about generally inflation and deflation.
01:42:16.000It just seemed very suspicious to me that it was the end of the Bush administration, an administration that was clearly under the influence of big oil.
01:42:22.000And then at the very end of the administration, everything just gets jacked up to the roof.
01:43:02.000You know, all of that is some speculation.
01:43:04.000Who knows how much they know and what they're doing.
01:43:06.000But it's an interesting game with a lot of money at stake.
01:43:09.000When you have that much money at stake, you could be fucking sure that people are trying to figure out a way to fuck it.
01:43:15.000It's pretty amazing what it's done, though, because if it wasn't for oil, there would be no plastic, there'd be no computers, there'd be no nothing.
01:43:22.000All the shit that we make today, everything.