The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #478 - Eddie Bravo

00:00:02.000 Hey, you fucking freaks. 1.00

00:00:04.000 What's happening? 1.00

00:00:05.000 I should probably tweet. 0.99

00:00:06.000 I fucked up. 0.93

00:00:06.000 I forgot to tweet this. 0.93

00:00:07.000 So I'll tweet while I'm doing it.

00:00:09.000 I like how you do that.

00:00:11.000 I like how you're... 0.99

00:00:12.000 Man, we gotta get better shit at my podcast. 0.99

00:00:14.000 What do you mean? 0.99

00:00:15.000 You guys got the screens.

00:00:17.000 Anything that you're talking about, Jamie's really quick, man.

00:00:19.000 He's on it.

00:00:20.000 Like, anything that you're talking about, he's already got some visuals and some cutaways.

00:00:24.000 That's huge.

00:00:25.000 It is huge.

00:00:26.000 To be that quick? 1.00

00:00:27.000 God damn. 1.00

00:00:28.000 That's some serious production value right there. 0.99

00:00:30.000 Thank you. 0.99

00:00:31.000 It's important to have if you want to talk some shit. 0.98

00:00:33.000 I don't have that. 1.00

00:00:34.000 That's what sucks. 0.84

00:00:35.000 I do not... 0.98

00:00:36.000 We can hook you up.

00:00:37.000 Yeah, you know what?

00:00:38.000 I need to step it up.

00:00:40.000 We'll talk after the show.

00:00:41.000 We'll figure out how to do it. 0.99

00:00:42.000 You've got all the good cameras and shit. 0.98

00:00:44.000 You went from the... 0.99

00:00:46.000 You guys...

00:00:47.000 Right now, we're at the webcam cameras.

00:00:50.000 They're 90 bucks each.

00:00:52.000 Right.

00:00:52.000 iCam or something like that.

00:00:54.000 That's what all the low-budget podcasts...

00:00:56.000 That's what we had in the beginning, remember?

00:00:58.000 Yes, but look what you got now. 1.00

00:00:59.000 Shit. 1.00

00:00:59.000 They're just cameras, man. 1.00

00:01:01.000 But those are like $400, $500 each?

00:01:03.000 They're probably something like that.

00:01:05.000 Yeah.

00:01:05.000 Look at you.

00:01:05.000 They're not cheap.

00:01:06.000 Yeah.

00:01:07.000 Well, the setup sort of came alive.

00:01:10.000 It looks cool, too.

00:01:10.000 It looks cool.

00:01:11.000 And now, wait a minute.

00:01:13.000 Are you...

00:01:14.000 This is what my suggestion...

00:01:15.000 Are we on?

00:01:16.000 Yeah.

00:01:16.000 Oh.

00:01:17.000 My suggestion...

00:01:18.000 I think it'd be cool.

00:01:19.000 You should start not just getting one shot of Joe, have like four camera shots.

00:01:25.000 Alright, this is not something to talk about.

00:01:27.000 This is gross.

00:01:28.000 Wouldn't it be cool? 0.99

00:01:29.000 No, you need more on my face, bro.

00:01:31.000 There's only one angle.

00:01:32.000 You got one angle on me?

00:01:33.000 People are tired of looking at that angle.

00:01:34.000 We're going to mix it up.

00:01:35.000 And I want a makeup lady. 1.00

00:01:37.000 I did a podcast recently and they had a makeup person.

00:01:39.000 I'm not joking.

00:01:41.000 They had cameras and they had a makeup person.

00:01:42.000 I said, I don't even wear makeup for work.

00:01:44.000 For TV, I don't wear makeup.

00:01:46.000 You can't put makeup on me.

00:01:47.000 They're like, we're just going to put some anti-shine. 0.99

00:01:49.000 I'm like, get the fuck out of here. 1.00

00:01:50.000 Are you crazy for a podcast? 1.00

00:01:52.000 You're out of your mind? 0.99

00:01:53.000 But that's production value.

00:01:54.000 That's what they do.

00:01:55.000 Well, they're doing a television show, essentially. 1.00

00:01:56.000 You add a fucking plate of carrots and celery shit. 1.00

00:01:59.000 You add that, then slowly you creep into the television status. 1.00

00:02:03.000 Yeah.

00:02:04.000 Well, I think that's what they were trying to do, this podcast.

00:02:06.000 They were broadcasting.

00:02:06.000 Little granola bars?

00:02:08.000 The cheap ones, man.

00:02:10.000 Nature's Made, granola, apple and oats.

00:02:12.000 That's the worst one ever.

00:02:14.000 We have this new sponsor.

00:02:15.000 We have these things around all the time. 0.99

00:02:17.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:02:17.000 You haven't seen it? 1.00

00:02:18.000 Nature Box is our new sponsor.

00:02:21.000 They send you healthy snacks through the mail.

00:02:25.000 Nature Box...

00:02:26.000 There was a bunch of people that were complaining on my website. 1.00

00:02:29.000 They were like, that shit's not healthy. 0.99

00:02:30.000 It's pretzels. 1.00

00:02:31.000 The deal with Nature Box is you can go from, you know, better for you than your standard vending food.

00:02:38.000 Like, you know, you're dealing with...

00:02:40.000 If you're, you know, standard vending food, what you don't have to deal with with Nature Box is no high fructose corn syrup, no partially hydrogenated oils, no trans fats, no artificial sweeteners, no artificial flavors, no artificial colors.

00:02:51.000 Like, just that alone.

00:02:53.000 Just that statement alone.

00:02:54.000 To me, That gives me ease. 0.99

00:02:57.000 I feel better about whatever fucking snack I'm eating. 0.81

00:03:00.000 And they also, if you have any dietary needs, like gluten-free. 0.99

00:03:04.000 I try to eat gluten-free as much as possible, so they send me a bunch of gluten-free shit. 0.99

00:03:09.000 They can do low-sugar shit. 1.00

00:03:11.000 Not shit, I'm saying shit. 1.00

00:03:12.000 It's really good shit. 1.00

00:03:13.000 It's good stuff. 1.00

00:03:14.000 Big Island pineapples.

00:03:16.000 Delicious.

00:03:17.000 And there's this blueberry almonds they have.

00:03:19.000 Oh my god, they're so good.

00:03:21.000 And you can get stuff like that very healthy.

00:03:25.000 Not bad for you at all.

00:03:27.000 It's when you get, you know, into the pretzel area.

00:03:29.000 What are you dealing with, man?

00:03:30.000 You're dealing with dough.

00:03:32.000 Dough is never really healthy. 0.96

00:03:34.000 But it's yummy as fuck, and they have an awesome selection. 0.97

00:03:38.000 Over a hundred snacks to choose from. 0.98

00:03:40.000 And like I said, if you have certain dietary needs, they can hook it up.

00:03:44.000 We enjoy it.

00:03:45.000 We eat it here in the podcast.

00:03:47.000 And we want you to enjoy it as well.

00:03:49.000 So, go to naturebox.com slash rogan.

00:03:52.000 That's naturebox.com slash rogan.

00:03:55.000 And you can save 50% off your first box. 1.00

00:03:58.000 I love the fact that people, podcast listeners, get fucking upset by shit. 1.00

00:04:04.000 Pretzels are not fucking, that's not healthy. 1.00

00:04:07.000 I like it. 1.00

00:04:08.000 I like it.

00:04:09.000 I do.

00:04:10.000 I mean, it's a little picky, but I get it.

00:04:12.000 It's good.

00:04:13.000 It's good to be picky like that.

00:04:15.000 Healthy snacks.

00:04:16.000 They're good.

00:04:16.000 It's a long thought.

00:04:17.000 Nothing wrong with that.

00:04:18.000 They also have this pistachio thing.

00:04:21.000 I forget what it's called.

00:04:21.000 Like a pistachio cluster.

00:04:23.000 God damn, it's yummy. 0.99

00:04:24.000 Anyway, naturebox.com forward slash Rogan. 0.99

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00:06:03.000 He set up a website and a store in the time it takes to do the commercial. 1.00

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00:08:42.000 There's like 30 seconds of reorganizing my neurons.

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00:10:40.000 This Thursday night, I am in Miami, bitch. 0.99

00:10:44.000 I'm going to be at the Fillmore, the Jackie Gleason Theater at the Fillmore. 0.98

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00:11:40.000 Alright, where to even begin with this one?

00:11:44.000 You think it'd be cool to watch the fight and instead of talking about different pieces of it because there's so many different aspects to it, you think it'd be cool for the viewer if we watch it and I just tell you what I'm saying to him?

00:11:57.000 Sure, but are we allowed to do that?

00:11:59.000 Like Metamor, are they paying people to watch replays?

00:12:04.000 It's on YouTube.

00:12:06.000 We probably should ask, though, before we do something like that.

00:12:09.000 He would love it, dude.

00:12:09.000 Are you kidding me?

00:12:10.000 Well, let's ask him on the air.

00:12:11.000 Are you kidding me?

00:12:13.000 Let's ask him on the air.

00:12:16.000 I hope I can actually call him from here.

00:12:18.000 I think it'd be cool.

00:12:18.000 The signal in this place is kind of sketch.

00:12:22.000 Just to give people background, what are we talking about here?

00:12:24.000 Okay, Eddie Bravo, one of my favorite human beings to ever walk the earth.

00:12:28.000 My brother, who I've known.

00:12:31.000 We became best friends almost instantly.

00:12:33.000 We started hanging out together in the late 90s.

00:12:36.000 Was it late 90s?

00:12:38.000 Yes.

00:12:38.000 2000, somewhere close to 2000. I knew you from John Jocks in 1997. You were the guy who was on, an actor who was on a TV show.

00:12:48.000 You were doing news radio.

00:12:50.000 But I had never seen news radio.

00:12:51.000 But, oh, that's that one actor, dude.

00:12:53.000 And you were taking privates.

00:12:54.000 And you didn't do that many group classes at first. 1.00

00:12:57.000 You thought you were doing the dope shit. 1.00

00:12:58.000 The group classes are for the peasants. 1.00

00:13:01.000 The privates are. 1.00

00:13:02.000 That's where you get the real shit. 1.00

00:13:03.000 That's what you were thinking. 1.00

00:13:04.000 Well, I thought I was going to learn quicker.

00:13:06.000 I don't want to talk bad about that dude, you know, who's a really good guy that was teaching me.

00:13:10.000 I really like him.

00:13:12.000 But...

00:13:14.000 You have to roll with a bunch of other people.

00:13:16.000 It's just a fact.

00:13:17.000 Whenever I hear someone tell me I'm going to take private lessons, I'm going to do some jiu-jitsu, take private lessons, you can definitely learn more than the average person.

00:13:25.000 But if you want to really learn jiu-jitsu, you've got to get dirty.

00:13:28.000 You've got to get in there.

00:13:30.000 I didn't figure that out.

00:13:31.000 I didn't figure that out until I started rolling with you.

00:13:34.000 I started hanging out with you.

00:13:35.000 Let's call Halleck right now.

00:13:39.000 The guy was a good guy.

00:13:42.000 He just, uh...

00:13:45.000 We got a story for you, ladies and gentlemen.

00:13:50.000 There's a backstory to this podcast.

00:13:51.000 I think he's mad at me, man.

00:13:52.000 I haven't heard from him.

00:13:53.000 I doubt it.

00:13:54.000 Yeah, he's mad at me.

00:13:55.000 Don't say that.

00:13:57.000 You're putting it out there.

00:13:58.000 You're jinxing.

00:13:59.000 I don't know.

00:14:00.000 I was like...

00:14:00.000 Halleck, it's Joe Rogan.

00:14:03.000 Hey, before you say anything, we're on the air right now.

00:14:05.000 We're live.

00:14:08.000 I wanted to know what your feelings were, out of respect, when it comes to YouTube, the videos being up on YouTube.

00:14:15.000 Are you trying to pull those down?

00:14:18.000 Because we were going to play one and talk about it, but only with your permission.

00:14:22.000 Because I didn't know if you were pulling those down off the internet.

00:14:27.000 Yeah, man.

00:14:28.000 You know what?

00:14:30.000 Dude, if you really could go to...

00:14:33.000 Go to Metamorse.com and go to the live stream and I'll give you my login.

00:14:39.000 Okay.

00:14:40.000 You can use it and you can scroll through the whole site on there if you want to do that now.

00:14:45.000 Alright, remember we're on live so don't give out any information right now.

00:14:49.000 Don't get crazy.

00:14:50.000 So we can play it though on the podcast and we can talk about it over it?

00:14:56.000 Yes, we can.

00:14:57.000 Beautiful.

00:15:13.000 Yeah.

00:15:13.000 Well, that's a great attitude, too.

00:15:15.000 I mean, let them know.

00:15:16.000 This is a really awesome event you put on, and people should support an event like that, just with their own ethics.

00:15:22.000 Regardless of whether it's available for free, that's my feeling.

00:15:26.000 Metamorris is an awesome thing for jiu-jitsu, and we should all support it.

00:15:31.000 Buy it on our website just to support if you really care about what we're doing.

00:15:39.000 That's a beautiful attitude.

00:15:40.000 I agree a thousand percent.

00:15:41.000 That's not even a real number, right?

00:15:43.000 You can only get to a hundred.

00:15:44.000 Hey, listen, man.

00:15:45.000 I just want to tell you, whatever you need, man, if you want to have me promote the next ones, I'm totally down.

00:15:50.000 That was an awesome event.

00:15:51.000 You had some really high-class matchups with really great jujitsu talent.

00:15:56.000 It was a pleasure to watch, man.

00:15:58.000 I really, really enjoyed it.

00:15:59.000 So I'm going to support you in any way with this because I just think it's an awesome thing you're doing.

00:16:05.000 I know you don't normally take inquiries, but I would love to be on the podcast.

00:16:10.000 Let's do it.

00:16:13.000 Let's do it, brother.

00:16:13.000 Let's do it.

00:16:14.000 Let's do it.

00:16:14.000 Alright, I'm live.

00:16:15.000 I'm going to go.

00:16:16.000 So we'll talk to you soon.

00:16:18.000 Alright, take care, my friend.

00:16:21.000 Hit him out of here, dude. 0.98

00:16:24.000 I don't know. 0.67

00:16:24.000 I haven't heard from him, so I thought... 0.67

00:16:26.000 He's probably busy, you know.

00:16:28.000 His uncle's probably upset at you.

00:16:29.000 Well, I know.

00:16:30.000 Hoyce is mad at me.

00:16:31.000 Let's explain what happened.

00:16:32.000 I'm thinking maybe Halleck's mad at me, too.

00:16:34.000 This is what's going on.

00:16:35.000 For people who don't know, Eddie Bravo is...

00:16:40.000 Famous for one very particular upset a long time ago when in 2003 we went down to Brazil and Eddie was competing in the Abu Dhabi World Submission Championships, which is the biggest event in no-gi grappling.

00:16:54.000 It's a huge, huge event.

00:16:55.000 And this is the event that gave birth to legends like Marcelo Garcia, Yeah,

00:17:18.000 they're the top two.

00:17:19.000 I mean, Hoyler is a legend.

00:17:22.000 A true legend.

00:17:23.000 Multiple Gi championships, world championships, and multiple Abu Dhabi no Gi championships.

00:17:27.000 He won it three times in a row.

00:17:28.000 No one's ever scored a point on him.

00:17:30.000 The guy is about as good as you can get for that 45 division.

00:17:33.000 His dad is Helio Gracie.

00:17:35.000 His dad was literally the founder of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, along with Carlos Gracie.

00:17:40.000 I mean, what his dad did was nothing short of...

00:17:45.000 When you put into perspective the history of martial arts and different people, like Bruce Lee obviously plays a huge part in making martial arts exciting, getting people into martial arts.

00:17:58.000 Chuck Norris also, a huge part.

00:18:00.000 Jean-Claude Van Damme, a very big part.

00:18:01.000 That gets people into the schools in the first place.

00:18:04.000 But when you talk about a person who's maybe the single most important person in all of martial arts...

00:18:11.000 It might be Elio Gracie.

00:18:12.000 I mean, he might be the most important person ever.

00:18:15.000 A small man who used leverage and beautiful technique to submit people, took on all comers, weighed 140 pounds, and he was fighting these giant dudes.

00:18:26.000 I mean, it's an amazing family.

00:18:29.000 The whole family is just...

00:18:31.000 What a crazy movie-type family.

00:18:34.000 I mean, you think about, like, a family that wouldn't even exist in the real world. 1.00

00:18:37.000 How about a family where one bad motherfucker, this one jujitsu genius, Elio Gracie, has a bunch of sons, and they all turn out to be bad motherfuckers? 1.00

00:18:48.000 I mean, whatever... 1.00

00:18:49.000 What other guy has had, like...

00:18:52.000 Produced 20 killers, 30 killers in his own brood.

00:18:57.000 Well, if you get into the story with Carlos Gracie, his older brother, he's the one who actually learned jujitsu and showed it to Helio.

00:19:06.000 And they both fought and stuff, but as they got older, Carlos fought less.

00:19:13.000 And managed Helio more so, because Helio became the beast.

00:19:16.000 And Helio is the one who refined and tweaked the system and made it what it is today, technically.

00:19:23.000 But, without Carlos learning it, Helio would have never learned Jiu-Jitsu.

00:19:28.000 So, it was really...

00:19:29.000 They were both very important.

00:19:30.000 Helio designed it and polished it and tweaked it.

00:19:32.000 But Carlos is the one that showed him the raw techniques from what he learned from Maeda, I think his name is.

00:19:39.000 Yes.

00:19:40.000 I mean, and I don't even...

00:19:41.000 When we're saying this, there's no disrespect ever.

00:19:43.000 That's a movie. 0.97

00:19:44.000 How come they haven't made a fucking big blockbuster James Cameron movie about the Gracies? 0.99

00:19:49.000 Come on! 0.98

00:19:50.000 Who would play Hickson?

00:19:51.000 But you know what? 0.99

00:19:51.000 Jiu-Jitsu guys would be so disappointed because in an hour and a half, they'd have to just gloss over shit. 0.99

00:19:57.000 And like, the real story is way more complicated. 0.99

00:19:59.000 Yeah.

00:20:00.000 Can you imagine, in an hour and a half, you explain the whole Gracie story with all the brothers and Carlson and Helson and all their different stories and Half and Heian.

00:20:12.000 Dude, they would have to have the Heian edge would be like 10 minutes of the movie. 1.00

00:20:16.000 That's it.

00:20:17.000 Heian would... 1.00

00:20:19.000 For folks who don't know, Haiyan was like the crazy, he just called him Gracie Devil.

00:20:22.000 He was like one of the wildest guys.

00:20:24.000 He fought in pride as well.

00:20:25.000 A lot of them fought in pride.

00:20:26.000 Of course, Henzo.

00:20:27.000 Henzo fought in pride.

00:20:28.000 I mean, there's so many great people, great martial artists that came out of that family.

00:20:33.000 Haiyan, Henzo, and Half were all brothers, and they were like the Tasmanian Devils.

00:20:38.000 But Henzo was probably the...

00:20:42.000 Most friendly, I think.

00:20:44.000 Haiyan and Half were just ready to throw down at any time with anybody.

00:20:49.000 They were the true pit bulls.

00:20:50.000 And Henzo was a pit bull too.

00:20:52.000 And according to the Machados and their stories, Henzo was always the one laughing and joking and everyone loved him, but he was always in the middle of a fight.

00:21:01.000 Someone would want to fight him and there'd be a riot.

00:21:04.000 And...

00:21:06.000 You know, Henzo is like a super happy-go-lucky guy, but he has a side to him that he could turn it on.

00:21:14.000 Well, you remember when he live-tweeted beating up those muggers?

00:21:17.000 Yeah! 1.00

00:21:18.000 Dude, what a bad motherfucker Henzo Gracie is. 0.99

00:21:21.000 And he thanked the mayor for not allowing guns. 0.99

00:21:25.000 So he don't...

00:21:27.000 Not to worry about my gun.

00:21:29.000 And he went out and these guys, apparently, they were following him and they were thinking about mugging him.

00:21:35.000 And not only did he beat these guys up, he was live tweeting it and chasing after them.

00:21:40.000 He knew they were eyeing him for some reason.

00:21:43.000 He knew he was being targeted.

00:21:45.000 They were targeting Henzo Gracie. 1.00

00:21:48.000 Fuck! 1.00

00:21:48.000 What a huge, huge mistake. 1.00

00:21:49.000 That would have to be in the movie.

00:21:51.000 Somehow they would have to squeeze that.

00:21:52.000 That would be like a lost scenes.

00:21:54.000 You know what I mean?

00:21:55.000 It didn't quite make the story.

00:21:56.000 They couldn't make it fit.

00:21:57.000 But that's a crazy...

00:21:58.000 That's a modern day Gracie story. 0.99

00:22:01.000 Because you hear about all these old Gracie Dojo Storm stories.

00:22:05.000 And there's all these legendary stories.

00:22:08.000 He tweeted pictures of his hands.

00:22:10.000 Yeah, this is modern day old school Gracie stories.

00:22:14.000 And it's only a couple...

00:22:15.000 What is it, a year ago?

00:22:16.000 What year was it?

00:22:17.000 Man.

00:22:18.000 What year was it?

00:22:19.000 What did it say up there?

00:22:20.000 And the crazy thing is I was on Twitter when it was happening.

00:22:22.000 I was watching it live as it was happening.

00:22:25.000 I was actually on Twitter while he was tweeting, these guys are following me, check this out.

00:22:31.000 And he was taking pictures.

00:22:32.000 He goes, I'm going to lure them into some alley or two. 1.00

00:22:35.000 He beat the fucking shit out of these poor guys. 1.00

00:22:37.000 He took pictures of his hands all busted up and bloody... 1.00

00:22:41.000 He probably has so many connections in NYPD, you know what I mean?

00:22:46.000 Oh, sure.

00:22:46.000 He knew that if he needed to beat up some muggers, no one would ever give him any stress.

00:22:51.000 He's so connected.

00:22:53.000 Well, he was also talking about it with such glee.

00:22:55.000 It reminded him of growing up in Rio.

00:22:59.000 He really is like, I mean, he's in New York City. 0.98

00:23:02.000 You know he's about as connected as you can motherfucking get. 0.98

00:23:07.000 Come on. 0.98

00:23:07.000 Well, for sure, there's a lot of cops who train jujitsu. 0.98

00:23:09.000 I mean, how many cops do we know?

00:23:10.000 Connected to every side of New York.

00:23:14.000 Well, everybody loves them. 1.00

00:23:14.000 I bet he knows some serious mobsters and shit, right? 1.00

00:23:18.000 I would imagine. 1.00

00:23:19.000 He probably knows at least one.

00:23:20.000 You know what I mean?

00:23:20.000 For sure.

00:23:21.000 Mobsters would want to hang out with Henzo.

00:23:23.000 You know what I mean?

00:23:24.000 Gangsters would love to hang out with Henzo.

00:23:25.000 That's a real-life killer right there.

00:23:27.000 He's a great guy, too. 0.99

00:23:29.000 The thing about Henzo is his personality is so fucking great. 0.84

00:23:33.000 Like, when you're around him, he's always hugging people and super friendly. 0.97

00:23:36.000 Like, just got a great energy to him.

00:23:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:23:38.000 And he's a bad motherfucker. 0.99

00:23:39.000 My favorite Gracie of all time, and I love, there's a lot of Gracies, man, that I love personally, that I know personally, and there's a lot that I don't even know. 0.99

00:23:48.000 I've never met, like I've never sat down and talked to Horian.

00:23:52.000 I've never sat down and talked to Hodger.

00:23:55.000 You know what I mean?

00:23:56.000 There's a lot of great, Helson, I never sat down and talked to Helson, but the Gracies that I did have, do have relationships with and did have time to My favorite all time is Rose Gracie.

00:24:09.000 I love her to death.

00:24:11.000 That is one of the sweetest, coolest chicks on the planet. 0.93

00:24:17.000 You either come from the Helio side or the Carlos side.

00:24:20.000 She's the only one, her and her sister, that come from both.

00:24:23.000 Because Horion, her dad, married his cousin.

00:24:26.000 So Helio Gracie is her grandfather.

00:24:29.000 Carlos Gracie is her great-grandfather.

00:24:32.000 Weird, right?

00:24:33.000 So, Rose Gracie is the most Gracie. 1.00

00:24:37.000 She's Gracie from both... 0.98

00:24:38.000 She's double Gracie. 1.00

00:24:40.000 Her blood is... 1.00

00:24:41.000 It's like vampire Gracie blood.

00:24:43.000 It's all...

00:24:44.000 You know what I mean?

00:24:45.000 Her and her sister are so Gracie.

00:24:48.000 That's wild.

00:24:48.000 Double Gracie.

00:24:49.000 And she's the coolest one.

00:24:51.000 Wow.

00:24:51.000 To me.

00:24:52.000 Out of all the ones I've met, I love her.

00:24:54.000 We work together.

00:24:56.000 She runs the Gracie Nationals and the Gracie World, and we work together.

00:25:02.000 Man, she's awesome. 1.00

00:25:04.000 That's awesome.

00:25:05.000 I love Henner.

00:25:06.000 I know Henner.

00:25:06.000 I know Huron.

00:25:07.000 They've always been cool to me.

00:25:08.000 I want to get those guys in the podcast, too.

00:25:10.000 Obviously, you just heard that I said I would do Halleck.

00:25:12.000 I would love to do him on as well.

00:25:13.000 But Henner and Huron have done a fucking amazing job of promoting jiu-jitsu in a technical sense by showing those Gracie breakdowns.

00:25:21.000 Those are great, man. 0.94

00:25:23.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:25:23.000 Those are really fucking, they're entertaining. 0.99

00:25:25.000 Henner is like really captivating. 0.99

00:25:27.000 He's got like a great energy to him.

00:25:29.000 He's like a natural, you know, a natural speaker, a natural instructor from all those years of teaching jiu-jitsu classes.

00:25:35.000 But he's very, he's very entertaining, like his cadence and everything, but very technical in their jiu-jitsu delivery.

00:25:40.000 Their passion comes through.

00:25:41.000 It's very obvious.

00:25:42.000 They really like what they do.

00:25:43.000 And I find that infectious, you know?

00:25:45.000 Yeah, those guys are awesome.

00:25:46.000 Huron has always been cool to me.

00:25:48.000 Henner always been cool.

00:25:51.000 And Krohn Gracie, I just got to...

00:25:53.000 Very cool.

00:25:53.000 Now I've met him and we've talked.

00:25:55.000 He's so cool.

00:25:56.000 He went to my after party.

00:25:59.000 That's how cool...

00:25:59.000 Krohn Gracie went to my after party.

00:26:01.000 That's awesome.

00:26:02.000 Yeah, that's pretty crazy, right?

00:26:04.000 He's an awesome guy. 0.98

00:26:05.000 I told him, aren't you going to get killed for this?

00:26:08.000 What are you doing here? 0.94

00:26:09.000 This is like a pure 10th planet after party.

00:26:11.000 Everybody here is 10th planet.

00:26:13.000 And he's just so cool.

00:26:14.000 He's just so damn cool, man.

00:26:16.000 I love that guy.

00:26:17.000 Well, there's always these inter-family feuds. 0.99

00:26:21.000 There's a lot of weird shit that goes on. 0.99

00:26:24.000 Point being, here's the story. 0.99

00:26:26.000 Eddie goes down there, huge underdog.

00:26:30.000 Hoyler Gracie's a legend.

00:26:31.000 We're talking about a legend from the most legendary family.

00:26:34.000 That's one thing you can say unequivocally.

00:26:36.000 What is the most legendary family of martial arts?

00:26:38.000 The Gracie's, for sure.

00:26:39.000 100%.

00:26:39.000 There's not even a close second.

00:26:41.000 Probably the most legendary family that's ever existed.

00:26:45.000 Ever.

00:26:45.000 Like, what other family is known for something like that?

00:26:49.000 Like a big, huge family.

00:26:51.000 World champions. 0.93

00:26:52.000 Known to be experts at strangling human beings.

00:26:57.000 Not just experts, but think of the amount of champions.

00:27:00.000 Hoist Gracie, the very first UFC champion who arguably changed the world's opinion instantaneously of martial arts.

00:27:09.000 That one guy.

00:27:10.000 Super legend.

00:27:11.000 Hoist Gracie. 0.99

00:27:12.000 Then you've got Henzo Gracie, another champion.

00:27:15.000 You've got Hoyler Gracie, the most decorated.

00:27:18.000 Him and Hodger, the most decorated champion.

00:27:19.000 Hickson, who beats all of them.

00:27:21.000 Hickson, who's the best.

00:27:23.000 You ask any of them, they say Hickson's the best.

00:27:25.000 How crazy is that?

00:27:26.000 That's insane.

00:27:27.000 Hickson whips Hoist.

00:27:29.000 Hickson whips Hoiler.

00:27:31.000 He whips everybody.

00:27:32.000 But even though they get whipped by Hickson, they're still legends.

00:27:37.000 They're still better than most of the people walking.

00:27:40.000 So it's so crazy, the different levels.

00:27:42.000 That is the most legendary for real family of all time.

00:27:47.000 Yeah, it really is.

00:27:48.000 Think about that.

00:27:49.000 The family business is breaking bones and putting people to their death.

00:27:56.000 With their bare hands.

00:27:58.000 Yeah.

00:27:58.000 That's the family business.

00:27:59.000 It's pretty crazy.

00:28:01.000 Who's more hardcore than the Gracies? 1.00

00:28:03.000 There's some video.

00:28:06.000 It was like a demonstration that Hickson did, where Hickson and Hoyler had a little sparring demonstration.

00:28:13.000 I don't know what it was, though.

00:28:15.000 I don't know what was orchestrated.

00:28:16.000 It was like at one of those Japanese events.

00:28:19.000 Yeah.

00:28:19.000 Maybe Pride.

00:28:20.000 Yeah, they were just messing around.

00:28:21.000 Yeah.

00:28:22.000 Okay.

00:28:22.000 They just sort of demonstrated some techniques.

00:28:24.000 But the only video that I've seen of them rolling is like there's some no-gi video of them rolling.

00:28:30.000 But any video that involves Hickson and his brothers ultimately leads to the brother tapping, which is insane.

00:28:37.000 Everyone gets smashed by Hickson.

00:28:38.000 That's insane. 0.97

00:28:39.000 When you think about that this one guy and a family of fucking super champions, this one guy rises to the top over all of them, universally acknowledged. 0.98

00:28:48.000 And even the Brazilians that did jiu-jitsu that... 0.98

00:28:54.000 Yeah.

00:29:09.000 This aunt is not talking to that aunt.

00:29:11.000 My mom is not talking to her sister.

00:29:13.000 They hate each other for three years.

00:29:15.000 That's just the way families are, so they're not immune to it.

00:29:19.000 So it's totally normal, but when you get into what's really going on, man, it's just...

00:29:29.000 It's insane, is what it is.

00:29:31.000 It's like this one family that has created such an empire of martial arts.

00:29:36.000 And, in my opinion, changed martial arts forever.

00:29:39.000 I think Hoist Gracie and his victory in the Ultimate Fighting Championship was one of the most important moments in the history of martial arts, without a doubt.

00:29:48.000 If not the most important moment.

00:29:49.000 Absolutely.

00:29:50.000 Because people got to see what really works.

00:29:52.000 People got to see something in a way that you never saw before.

00:29:55.000 You never saw a small man who didn't look physically imposing dismantle other people with technique.

00:30:01.000 Yeah, and even though Horian was the guy that actually made it happen physically, the whole family was involved.

00:30:09.000 Because Horion is the one who, it was his idea, we need to put this show on in the States and prove that jiu-jitsu is the most effective martial art.

00:30:17.000 We could do this.

00:30:18.000 But it was because of what he saw Hickson doing.

00:30:22.000 Because of what he saw Hoyler doing in the dojo storm.

00:30:27.000 It was because of what his father, Helio, spread to everyone.

00:30:34.000 Horian wouldn't have the drive and the vision if he didn't see what Hickson was doing on a daily basis and what his dad did and know the history of what his dad did.

00:30:43.000 All that.

00:30:44.000 Everybody.

00:30:45.000 Carlson Gracie.

00:30:46.000 He was using all the Carlson Gracie fighters and the Gracie in action tapes.

00:30:50.000 It was all that.

00:30:52.000 All the Gracie events and all the Gracie people that were all involved and Horion needed all that to explode the UFC. So it wasn't just Horion.

00:31:03.000 It was everybody.

00:31:04.000 Horion couldn't have done it alone.

00:31:06.000 Right.

00:31:07.000 That's why there was some division.

00:31:09.000 Some guys wanted to go here and say, you know, I'm going to do this on this side, and then, you know, that people...

00:31:14.000 But that's totally normal.

00:31:16.000 But, um...

00:31:18.000 Also, there were some things opening up in other countries, too.

00:31:21.000 Like, Hickson started doing Japan Valley Tudo.

00:31:23.000 It was around the same time.

00:31:24.000 It wasn't only around 94, 95. Everything just exploded.

00:31:26.000 When Hoist blew it all up, all the people that were involved down the chain, Carlson and all those guys and everyone, they said, okay, we're all part of this.

00:31:36.000 Then it just grew and exploded in the Gracie.

00:31:39.000 It just instantly, jiu-jitsu just spread all over the world instantly.

00:31:43.000 Everybody needed jiu-jitsu.

00:31:44.000 Martial arts masters were traveling all over.

00:31:47.000 They were all going into jiu-jitsu.

00:31:48.000 All these American guys going into Rio.

00:31:51.000 It just became like a... 0.82

00:31:54.000 The thing to do, man, in martial arts is go to Brazil and then we got exposed to chuscarias and acai and all that shit's here because of jiu-jitsu. 0.91

00:32:04.000 Yep.

00:32:05.000 And that's one of the things about martial arts that a lot of people don't realize is that for maybe thousands of years, it pretty much remained the same.

00:32:14.000 When the Gracies came along, that was what really kick-started it to this level right now. 0.56

00:32:18.000 You know, you can say that jujitsu is not the most important martial art, but historically, it's the most important martial art unquestionably.

00:32:26.000 Like, that one event...

00:32:28.000 Where people got to see a guy like Hoist dominate these bigger, stronger guys.

00:32:33.000 And he wasn't a scary looking physical.

00:32:35.000 He wasn't built like Mike Tyson or anything like that.

00:32:37.000 He wasn't built like Roy Jones Jr. where you look at him and you go, whoa, how can that guy move?

00:32:41.000 That guy moves like a ghost.

00:32:42.000 It wasn't that.

00:32:43.000 It was just technique.

00:32:46.000 It's a pretty amazing thing to watch.

00:32:50.000 It's one of the things people don't realize, too, about Chuck Norris. 0.99

00:32:52.000 Chuck Norris was ahead of the fucking curve, man. 0.82

00:32:55.000 Chuck Norris, even though, like, a lot of people associate him with, like, Walker, Texas Ranger, and, you know, like, movies and TV shows now, Chuck Norris was a legit kickboxer, like, legit champion kickboxer, legit karate champion. 0.99

00:33:09.000 He was a bad motherfucker, and he really was into martial arts, into training in martial arts, and learning new things.

00:33:15.000 And when did he start training with the Machados? 0.99

00:33:20.000 Way before the UFC. Way before the UFC, right?

00:33:22.000 Like...

00:33:23.000 Didn't he have like a...

00:33:24.000 Late 80s.

00:33:25.000 He had like a purple belt or a brown belt before the UFC, before the first UFC. He was responsible somehow for the UFC getting moved along.

00:33:35.000 There were some kind of connections.

00:33:37.000 Because once Chuck Norris discovered Jiu Jitsu, he was all over it.

00:33:40.000 And he just immediately injected it into his Chuck Norris system.

00:33:45.000 Anybody that's in the Chuck Norris affiliation system, they have to do Jiu Jitsu.

00:33:50.000 That's a karate association.

00:33:54.000 We're good to go.

00:34:09.000 A lot of great fighters.

00:34:10.000 That was fun as hell.

00:34:11.000 But just meeting Chuck Norris was like, holy...

00:34:14.000 But I didn't get a picture.

00:34:15.000 I met him again recently and I got a picture of him.

00:34:19.000 That guy's the...

00:34:19.000 He's the real deal, man.

00:34:21.000 You know, what he did...

00:34:22.000 And he's such a humble guy, too.

00:34:24.000 Like, all these guys...

00:34:25.000 I was on this dais to...

00:34:29.000 This guy, Jim Harrison, who's a famous karate champion as well.

00:34:32.000 They were congratulating him.

00:34:35.000 And Chuck Norris was like...

00:34:37.000 All of his stories...

00:34:39.000 Like, involve, like, bad things happening to him.

00:34:43.000 All of his stories involved, like, he panicked, he couldn't talk in front of people, so he told this hilarious story about not even remembering talking, not even remembering giving a speech because he was so terrified to speak in front of people.

00:34:57.000 Very self-deprecating.

00:34:59.000 You know, it was where a lot of those... 0.99

00:35:01.000 You know, you get into that sort of an event and a guy looks for it as an opportunity to go in the glory days and talk about his past victories and that kind of shit. 0.97

00:35:08.000 Chuck Norris said none of that. 0.97

00:35:09.000 He was laughing, smiling, you know, just self-deprecating.

00:35:14.000 That guy's a legit martial artist, like a real legit martial artist. 0.99

00:35:19.000 Yeah, and of course, you know, with that kind of mentality, as soon as you discover that there's a big weakness in your game, you want to feel that shit and feel it immediately. 0.97

00:35:30.000 So he was into Gracie Jiu-Jitsu then.

00:35:32.000 He started training with the Machados and got really tight with them and ended up getting his black belt from Carlos, I think.

00:35:39.000 And that's why Carlos went to Texas.

00:35:41.000 Mm-hmm.

00:35:42.000 Yeah.

00:35:43.000 And that's who I got my black belt from.

00:35:45.000 Jean-Jacques Machado.

00:35:46.000 One of the great Machado brothers.

00:35:48.000 There's five of them.

00:35:49.000 Higgin, Johnny, Hodger, Jean-Jacques, and Carlos.

00:35:54.000 And Jean-Jacques is another...

00:35:55.000 I mean, the Machado family is another legendary family as well.

00:35:58.000 I mean, you think Higgin, Hodger, Jean-Jacques.

00:36:01.000 I mean, that family as well became legendary for very, very high-level black belts.

00:36:06.000 Yeah, the cousins of the Graces. 0.75

00:36:07.000 They were cousins.

00:36:08.000 Yeah, I mean, and there's a photo of him.

00:36:11.000 Look, and John Jock is just a beautiful human being.

00:36:14.000 I love that guy.

00:36:15.000 No Spartan.

00:36:16.000 He's just got such a great energy to him.

00:36:20.000 That's a great picture right there.

00:36:21.000 It is.

00:36:22.000 That's like 1993. Five boys.

00:36:26.000 Five boys from Brazil.

00:36:28.000 All badasses in jiu-jitsu.

00:36:31.000 All five of them. 0.58

00:36:32.000 That's pretty crazy.

00:36:33.000 It is crazy. 1.00

00:36:33.000 You know, because when jiu-jitsu exploded, all the Gracies said, I'm going to make my own shit. 1.00

00:36:37.000 And they all just made their own schools. 0.99

00:36:39.000 And Henzo went to New York.

00:36:40.000 And, you know, Half goes to San Francisco. 1.00

00:36:45.000 And they take their markets and shit. 0.99

00:36:48.000 And Horion did the Torrance thing. 0.99

00:36:50.000 That was like the main Gracie place.

00:36:52.000 And then all the Gracie started spreading.

00:36:54.000 And some stayed in Brazil.

00:36:55.000 The Machados, man.

00:36:57.000 Five boys.

00:36:58.000 Five brothers.

00:36:58.000 They all came out and they just opened up a school together in Redondo Beach.

00:37:02.000 And then the second one in the Valley in Tarzana.

00:37:04.000 That's where I ended up going, but.

00:37:06.000 It was pretty crazy, man.

00:37:09.000 You have five boys, and they're all around the same age.

00:37:13.000 Can you imagine?

00:37:13.000 Pop, pop, pop, pop.

00:37:15.000 You have five boys, and they all look very similar.

00:37:18.000 And they're all yoked. 0.99

00:37:20.000 They're all killers. 0.98

00:37:21.000 And every one of them is a badass at jiu-jitsu. 0.99

00:37:26.000 That's pretty remarkable.

00:37:27.000 But the Gracie's got... 1.00

00:37:28.000 That's just another day in the park for the Gracie's.

00:37:32.000 Every family.

00:37:33.000 If you're a Gracie man and you've got a Gracie last name and you're not doing jiu-jitsu, what?

00:37:39.000 What happened there?

00:37:40.000 Are there any?

00:37:41.000 I don't know.

00:37:42.000 That's a good question.

00:37:42.000 That would be a really hilarious comedy sketch, like a Tim and Eric sketch.

00:37:45.000 The one Gracie who didn't want to do jiu-jitsu. 1.00

00:37:49.000 There's one Gracie who's just into like... 1.00

00:37:52.000 I bet that happens sometimes I bet that you know what I don't everyone in the family does jujitsu and then I want to do this I want to be an artist or I want to be and then you try that for a while and you're like shit I can make some easy money just using my name and jujitsu and then you realize fuck it you realize what you have like you have a great thing you your whole family Some people just want to be their own individual though, 0.82

00:38:21.000 you know? 0.87

00:38:21.000 But that is a good question. 0.87

00:38:22.000 What percentage of Gracie men didn't do Jiu Jitsu?

00:38:25.000 I bet zero.

00:38:26.000 I'm going with zero.

00:38:27.000 That would be remarkable.

00:38:29.000 I think they raised him with it from the time they were children.

00:38:32.000 Yeah, if Gracie is your last name, you have no choice.

00:38:34.000 You're gonna do jujitsu.

00:38:35.000 That's incredible, right?

00:38:36.000 It's pretty incredible.

00:38:37.000 So, 2003, we're in Brazil.

00:38:40.000 Giant match.

00:38:42.000 Eddie beats Gustavo Dantes, who is a very high-level jujitsu black belt.

00:38:47.000 And he taps him, gets his back.

00:38:49.000 So I saw that you're pumped up, you know, you felt very confident, you felt good, and you were, you know, you were zoned in.

00:38:56.000 But the idea that you were going to fight Hoyler Gracie seemed so crazy to me.

00:39:01.000 Just knowing what I know about the Gracies, knowing what I know about the history of the family, knowing what a legendary family they are, to see you...

00:39:09.000 My best friend, standing there with Hoyla Gracie, and you guys are about to grapple.

00:39:14.000 I'm like, and we're in Brazil. 0.99

00:39:15.000 I'm like, dude, this is a fucking trip. 0.99

00:39:17.000 I was starstruck. 0.99

00:39:18.000 I thought I was watching some 3D TV or something.

00:39:24.000 Feels like you're right there on the mat.

00:39:28.000 And Eddie wound up catching him in a triangle. 0.99

00:39:30.000 And it was the craziest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. 0.98

00:39:32.000 And it was like time stopped. 0.99

00:39:36.000 When you slapped that triangle on him, it seemed like time stopped.

00:39:40.000 It didn't even seem real.

00:39:41.000 And you kept jailbreaking, man, which was hilarious.

00:39:46.000 That dexterity that you have with your legs, and you're setting up this omoplata here.

00:39:52.000 And you got him in like full rubber guard here.

00:39:56.000 Yeah, that was the beginning of the rubber guard right now.

00:39:59.000 Yeah, what you had then was the ability to control people.

00:40:02.000 You just didn't have as many variations on technique to attack with. 0.96

00:40:05.000 But you had this unbelievable fucking flexibility that a lot of people aren't aware of. 0.97

00:40:09.000 You got some weird flexibility. 0.99

00:40:11.000 And not just flexibility, but dexterity.

00:40:14.000 Like in places that maybe some people can...

00:40:17.000 Grab their leg and put it.

00:40:19.000 You could put your leg there on its own.

00:40:21.000 But there's so many guys that are out there.

00:40:25.000 It's not that weird of flexibility.

00:40:27.000 It's just getting into Lotus.

00:40:29.000 If you got into yoga and you got obsessed with it, eventually, two years, three years, five years, you'd have to be able to get into the very basic Lotus position.

00:40:39.000 Yeah, it's a little more than that, fella.

00:40:41.000 You're being nice.

00:40:42.000 That's what it is. 0.96

00:40:43.000 I know what you're saying, but the reality is you've got some crazy legs. 0.74

00:40:47.000 There's something weird about your legs. 0.86

00:40:48.000 Your legs are like arms.

00:40:49.000 They move in strange ways.

00:40:51.000 Right here, if he didn't try to pass right there and if he had just stayed in my guard, I wouldn't have gotten him.

00:40:56.000 This wouldn't have happened, this transition.

00:40:58.000 Boom.

00:40:59.000 That jailbreak transition.

00:41:01.000 Yeah, he got...

00:41:03.000 Aggressive, and he shouldn't have got aggressive.

00:41:05.000 If he would have just been conservative, I wouldn't have been able to go right here, right into the triangle.

00:41:12.000 Boom, overhook. 0.53

00:41:15.000 All Jean-Jacques right there.

00:41:16.000 That's all Jean-Jacques.

00:41:17.000 Yeah, you controlled that wrist and then slapped it over. 0.94

00:41:19.000 And now this right here, where you had the triangle locked in, once here, like right there, I was like, holy shit. 0.85

00:41:26.000 Because before, it was like one of those things where you're not breathing because it's not totally locked in.

00:41:30.000 But once you had it locked behind the knee, I was looking and I was like, how is this guy going to survive?

00:41:37.000 And he's tapping.

00:41:39.000 I was like, he can't survive.

00:41:40.000 Like, no one can.

00:41:41.000 It's a human being.

00:41:42.000 When you have a guy your size and you slap a triangle on him this tight.

00:41:47.000 See, right here I wasn't sure.

00:41:48.000 Bam! 0.98

00:41:49.000 There I knew. 0.99

00:41:50.000 Like, once he dropped down, I was like, holy shit, that's locked in. 0.99

00:41:53.000 You were screaming, man. 0.99

00:41:54.000 Woo! 0.99

00:41:55.000 Oh my god.

00:41:56.000 And we were the only one screaming because everybody else was freaking out.

00:42:00.000 This Brazilian TV station had set up cameras there.

00:42:03.000 They shut down the other matches so they could better light this match because Hoyler Gracie's a hero.

00:42:08.000 And they were going to show Hoyler Gracie dominating the first time Abu Dhabi came to Sao Paulo.

00:42:14.000 When you slapped this triangle on him, dude, all you heard was me and Jamie Walsh.

00:42:20.000 Me and Jamie Walsh were yelling out, pull the head, pull the head!

00:42:24.000 Oh my god, oh my god!

00:42:26.000 It was just madness. 1.00

00:42:27.000 Like, oh shit, what? 1.00

00:42:29.000 We couldn't even believe it. 1.00

00:42:32.000 And then once you did pull the head and once you did tap...

00:42:36.000 It was like the world froze.

00:42:38.000 It was weird.

00:42:39.000 It was like, it didn't make sense.

00:42:40.000 The world just became some new place.

00:42:43.000 The world just, a totally new element opened up.

00:42:47.000 Like, the world became a new place.

00:42:48.000 Now, all of a sudden, Eddie Bravo is a champion martial artist.

00:42:53.000 Well, I didn't win the championship, though.

00:42:54.000 It doesn't matter.

00:42:55.000 You just tapped Hoyler Gracie. 0.70

00:42:56.000 You're capable of tapping Hoyler Gracie. 1.00

00:42:58.000 That's championship-level shit. 0.99

00:42:59.000 You tapped one of the greatest guys of all time. 1.00

00:43:02.000 It was a whole new world opened up.

00:43:05.000 It was just, all of a sudden, it was like, whoa.

00:43:07.000 This is weird.

00:43:09.000 Yeah, it was weird.

00:43:10.000 It was weird.

00:43:10.000 It was weird to watch, too, man.

00:43:12.000 Because when I met you, you were a purple belt.

00:43:14.000 You were a really good purple belt. 0.99

00:43:16.000 We had crazy moves and shit. 0.99

00:43:17.000 And then... 0.99

00:43:20.000 All of a sudden, you were brown belt? 1.00

00:43:21.000 And you were brown belt in Abu Dhabi, bro.

00:43:23.000 That's crazy.

00:43:25.000 You tapped him when you were brown belt.

00:43:26.000 So, 11 long years go by.

00:43:31.000 And this Saturday night, they had a rematch.

00:43:34.000 Eddie and Hoyler had a rematch in Metamorris, and that's what we were talking to Halleck Gracie about on the phone.

00:43:38.000 They're promoting these professional jiu-jitsu matches.

00:43:40.000 And it's awesome.

00:43:43.000 Keenan Cornelius fought Kevin Casey. 0.92

00:43:47.000 Kevin Casey took your pee.

00:43:50.000 I'll just describe the whole event.

00:43:51.000 A lot of really, really high-level fighters fought.

00:43:54.000 A lot of really good jujitsu fighters fought.

00:43:56.000 And the main event was Eddie versus Hoyler Gracie.

00:44:01.000 And 11 years running.

00:44:04.000 I mean, it's a long time in between matches.

00:44:06.000 And there was so much talk, so many haters, so many believers, so many...

00:44:13.000 I mean, there's so much...

00:44:14.000 Back and forth between the people that thought that Eddie winning the first time was a fluke and the people that legitimately thought that Eddie has a brilliant mind and a creative mind for jiu-jitsu that's really unique.

00:44:28.000 And he can come up with a lot of techniques.

00:44:30.000 He doesn't want to admit that he's got weird dexterity in his legs, but...

00:44:35.000 He can move his legs in weird ways.

00:44:37.000 He can wrap you up in triangles and stuff in weird ways without...

00:44:40.000 A lot of people have to grab their foot and place it in places.

00:44:44.000 So he has these techniques that he's developed and really created a bunch of paths.

00:44:50.000 And a lot of jiu-jitsu guys do this.

00:44:52.000 This is not unique.

00:44:54.000 But his paths were uniquely his in that he came up with a lot of different techniques and approaches and refined a lot of other approaches that he sort of adopted or adapted to jujitsu.

00:45:08.000 The system in 2003 was really not even a tenth of what it is now.

00:45:15.000 After 2003, Eddie started teaching and then it became crazy.

00:45:20.000 Then the system started growing and new techniques were added and there became guys like Danny Propagos who's a world champion as a brown belt Guys came out of there that were showing that your techniques weren't just for you and your crazy dexterity,

00:45:38.000 but you had broken down things in a way that other people hadn't done before in a weird way.

00:45:44.000 Your positions are very unique.

00:45:49.000 And there was a lot of people that didn't want to accept that for whatever reason.

00:45:52.000 And there was all this, oh, he got lucky, oh, fluke, all this.

00:45:55.000 So Saturday night rolls around, and I couldn't imagine there being more anticipation in a room before something. 0.95

00:46:01.000 And it was a cool anticipation, too, because one of the things I like about jiu-jitsu is no one's going to get knocked the fuck out. 0.94

00:46:08.000 Even if you get choked out...

00:46:10.000 You know, there's something about, like, seeing a friend fight.

00:46:13.000 It gets real rough.

00:46:15.000 I mean, we've been friends with MMA fighters, but I've never been as friendly with an MMA fighter as I am with you, you know?

00:46:20.000 But knowing a guy and liking a guy and then watching him get head-kicked, it's hard to do, you know?

00:46:25.000 So, it didn't have that aspect to it, but it was all positive is what I'm trying to say. 0.99

00:46:31.000 It was all just, holy shit, it's going down. 0.97

00:46:35.000 And once it did... 0.96

00:46:38.000 There was no points because it's a 20-minute match.

00:46:41.000 So for 20 minutes, it's either submission or no points.

00:46:44.000 But in that 20 minutes, you swept him on multiple occasions.

00:46:48.000 You got side control.

00:46:49.000 He never threatened you in any way, shape, or form.

00:46:53.000 You swept him with electric chairs.

00:46:55.000 You threatened him with a neck crank. 1.00

00:46:57.000 And you threatened him with this nasty fucking submission move on his knee. 1.00

00:47:01.000 Which I don't know how he didn't tap. 0.99

00:47:04.000 Because that was hard to watch, man.

00:47:06.000 We were sitting there watching...

00:47:07.000 That was the move I got you on the high time.

00:47:09.000 Yes.

00:47:09.000 You know that move?

00:47:10.000 The vaporizer.

00:47:11.000 That move is so painful. 1.00

00:47:13.000 Just that photo shoot, that shit hurt, man. 1.00

00:47:16.000 It hurts. 1.00

00:47:18.000 And somehow or another, Hoyler just...

00:47:20.000 I mean, look, he's a warrior.

00:47:22.000 He didn't want to tap.

00:47:23.000 He just decided he wasn't going to tap.

00:47:26.000 For people who have never seen jiu-jitsu before, that was like the perfect introduction match because it was so exciting.

00:47:37.000 There was so much madness. 0.71

00:47:39.000 And there was a bunch of times where you were working on shit, and he rolled you over onto your back, and then you swept him again. 0.99

00:47:46.000 So there was all these seesaws. 0.99

00:47:48.000 When he would roll, you'd be on your back, oh shit, he's on his back. 0.89

00:47:51.000 But you on your back is different than a lot of people on your back, because that's how you tapped him in the first fight. 0.95

00:47:56.000 You tapped him from your back.

00:47:58.000 Your guard is crafty.

00:48:01.000 So it was an incredibly thrilling match because there was constant threat at all times.

00:48:07.000 And even from him, man, he's still Hoyler Gracie.

00:48:10.000 You always knew, I mean, he's still that champion.

00:48:13.000 If something went wrong, if you didn't dot your I's and cross your T's.

00:48:17.000 I was not sure I was going to win this fight.

00:48:19.000 How could you be sure? 0.99

00:48:20.000 He's fucking Hoyler Gracie. 0.99

00:48:22.000 I mean. 1.00

00:48:22.000 He's Hoyler fucking Gracie. 1.00

00:48:23.000 I never said that I'm going to go out there and just strangle him. 0.99

00:48:26.000 I was just, I didn't know, I hadn't competed in so long.

00:48:29.000 Look right here, I'm faking like I'm going to wrestle.

00:48:33.000 Because I didn't think he was just going to let me pull him into quarter guard.

00:48:36.000 I thought, at this point, I'm like, wow. 0.98

00:48:39.000 I thought he was just going to try some totally different shit, but this is what he always does. 0.84

00:48:44.000 Every morning before I work out, I warm up on the Stairmaster, I go to YouTube, put Hoyler, ADCC, pick one of his matches, and that gives me all the motivation. 0.96

00:48:54.000 I just watch him roll, and he's so good at this.

00:48:57.000 But I thought he would try to pass to the other side.

00:49:00.000 And I thought this position was going to be the hardest to get, and this was the key.

00:49:06.000 If I could just get quarter guard in this position, I felt like I could get him.

00:49:10.000 And there's a bunch of crazy rules in this match as well.

00:49:13.000 One of the rules was that Hoyler was wearing these skin-tight shorts.

00:49:17.000 Eddie was wearing gi pants.

00:49:20.000 And Hoyler was allowed to grab Eddie's gi pants, but Eddie wasn't allowed to grab Hoyler's shorts. 0.58

00:49:25.000 So it was weird to watch, man, because there's times where he's like giving you a wedgie and pulling on your pants.

00:49:30.000 Yeah, he's pulling them down.

00:49:31.000 You can see my underwear.

00:49:32.000 Yeah, and when he got to that leg lock and he was trying to defend that leg lock, you're tearing his knee apart, and he's hanging on to your cuff.

00:49:41.000 It saved him.

00:49:41.000 The pants saved him.

00:49:42.000 Yeah.

00:49:43.000 Because if he didn't have the pants, I would have stomped on that foot and got the extra power.

00:49:46.000 I mean, Man, I think his knee popped at least seven times.

00:49:53.000 We were talking.

00:49:53.000 I'm like, we could stop this now.

00:49:55.000 Are you sure?

00:49:56.000 He goes, no, I'm fine.

00:49:57.000 And I'm popping.

00:49:57.000 I'm like, what about that?

00:49:58.000 He goes, I'm fine.

00:50:00.000 I'm like, it just kept popping. 0.98

00:50:01.000 I'm like, damn, are you sure? 0.97

00:50:02.000 Because everything's good. 0.99

00:50:03.000 Everything's fine.

00:50:04.000 Like, we're talking throughout this whole match.

00:50:06.000 Like, right here, he wanted the underhook really, really bad.

00:50:09.000 So I was saying, it's hard to get this time, huh?

00:50:11.000 Because the first time he got the underhook, I go, a lot of work.

00:50:14.000 Did you say that to him?

00:50:15.000 Yeah, I'm like, a lot of work, huh?

00:50:16.000 It was a hard one.

00:50:18.000 It's only because I would rather go against a guy who wasn't really mad at me.

00:50:23.000 If I could joke with you and get like, this is just for fun, then I feel like, okay, I can get this guy now because I could win because he's not mad. 0.75

00:50:32.000 But if he's mad, oh shit, I would never want to fight a Diego Sanchez type guy who's mad at me. 0.97

00:50:37.000 I'm like, oh no, no, no. 1.00

00:50:38.000 I want to fight a guy that's friendly and shit. 1.00

00:50:43.000 That's hilarious. 1.00

00:50:44.000 Yeah, so I was just constantly joking with him.

00:50:48.000 Constantly.

00:50:48.000 And after I swept him when I get on top of the electric chair and I'm holding him, I go, you can't move from here, so just hang on and relax.

00:50:54.000 I need about a minute to rest.

00:50:57.000 I go, you can't do nothing, just relax.

00:51:01.000 That's hilarious!

00:51:03.000 Because there are some positions where, I don't know, maybe three or four positions, they're like cradles, they're like wrestling cradles.

00:51:09.000 It happens here.

00:51:11.000 The guy on the bottom just can't do anything.

00:51:13.000 He's not getting tapped, but he can't move.

00:51:14.000 He's completely wrapped up.

00:51:15.000 And I use those spots to rest.

00:51:18.000 But it's hilarious that you told him, just relax.

00:51:21.000 You can't get out of this.

00:51:22.000 When me and Jean-Jacques wrestle, we are always talking smack to each other.

00:51:28.000 Me and Jean-Jacques always goof and we're always...

00:51:31.000 It's always a joke.

00:51:32.000 It's fun.

00:51:33.000 Always.

00:51:34.000 Me and Jean...

00:51:35.000 It's like a thing we do.

00:51:36.000 And I do...

00:51:36.000 There's certain guys that I roll with and I do that too.

00:51:38.000 I don't like to do it too much to my students because then it seems like I'm acting all arrogant against a guy that I could...

00:51:44.000 He's one of my students.

00:51:45.000 He's a blue belt or a white belt.

00:51:47.000 Right.

00:51:47.000 That would look really douchey.

00:51:49.000 No.

00:51:49.000 You're too playful.

00:51:50.000 But because Jean-Jacques can smash me anytime he wants, I talk...

00:51:56.000 I pretend like I'm arrogant because it's funny because you can do anything you want.

00:52:00.000 So no matter how douchey I get, we know it just doesn't make any sense because he's killing me.

00:52:06.000 But...

00:52:08.000 So same thing here.

00:52:09.000 I have so much respect for him that I feel like I could just joke around with him and I don't want him to be mad at me.

00:52:15.000 Well, that's good.

00:52:16.000 That's a good attitude to have, man, especially after 11 years between the matches.

00:52:21.000 It's cool that you kept that feeling.

00:52:24.000 And you were completely disrespectful, the entire way up to it, the promotion of it, your opinion of him.

00:52:31.000 You were praising what a legend he is.

00:52:34.000 Always.

00:52:34.000 You were very self-deprecating about your first victory, too.

00:52:39.000 This was a 20-minute match, and because there was no submission, it's a draw.

00:52:43.000 Metamorris is doing a unique thing, and I don't know if they've got the rules totally ironed out where they want them to yet, but what they're trying to do is discourage people from point fighting.

00:52:52.000 What that means is work towards submission at all times, and you may get a submission, and you may not get a submission, but The idea is you're seeing real jujitsu here, and they've accomplished that.

00:53:04.000 Everyone was going for submissions, whether it was Guy Mendes or Hoffa Mendes or Keenan Cornelius.

00:53:10.000 Everyone was going for submissions.

00:53:12.000 Sometimes they didn't get them, but it was really exciting because of that, because guys couldn't just sort of wrestle to a certain position and then hold.

00:53:22.000 But if this was a scored match, you would have beat him handily.

00:53:26.000 I mean, you swept him multiple times, you got side control on him, and you had two near submissions.

00:53:31.000 This is where he gets the underhook.

00:53:32.000 The crowd goes nuts because he's been fighting for the underhook for five minutes, and he finally gets it, and this is the position that we were in in our first match.

00:53:39.000 So all the greats are like, yes!

00:53:41.000 He got the underhook!

00:53:42.000 It's so technical that he finally got it, and I still have him in quarter guard here, so I was a little worried.

00:53:50.000 But you see what I'm doing with my right hand?

00:53:52.000 I'm going under the knee right here.

00:53:53.000 I never really do that.

00:53:54.000 And I was keeping him from going no-hand pass.

00:53:57.000 So I'm like, okay, cool.

00:53:58.000 This is nice.

00:53:59.000 He can't go no-hand pass because I'm holding his leg out like that.

00:54:02.000 And I've never really done that before.

00:54:03.000 This is the first time.

00:54:04.000 It's crazy.

00:54:04.000 See how I have my left hand?

00:54:06.000 Yeah.

00:54:06.000 He can't go no-hand pass.

00:54:08.000 I'm holding open his legs.

00:54:09.000 So I felt comfortable even though I didn't have the underhook.

00:54:13.000 I just had to somehow get a lockdown.

00:54:15.000 So for my people, they see me...

00:54:19.000 Fighting like this.

00:54:19.000 This is every day in the gym.

00:54:22.000 This is how it looks.

00:54:23.000 I start in this position.

00:54:24.000 This is how it looks.

00:54:25.000 So to the Gracie side, they probably thought he was winning right here.

00:54:30.000 My mom was freaking out.

00:54:31.000 My mom thought he was killing me.

00:54:33.000 At this moment, you got the lockdown.

00:54:35.000 Somewhere in here you got the lockdown.

00:54:38.000 And when you got the lockdown, here it is. 0.99

00:54:39.000 The crowd went fucking crazy. 0.99

00:54:41.000 Yes, that was crazy. 1.00

00:54:42.000 I get the lockdown, my guys go nuts.

00:54:44.000 He gets the underhook, his crowd goes nuts.

00:54:46.000 I get the lockdown, my crowd goes nuts.

00:54:48.000 It was crazy.

00:54:50.000 The lockdown's way bigger, though.

00:54:52.000 For folks who don't know, the lockdown, when you got a guy who's really good at it, and he has you in half guard and slaps it on...

00:55:00.000 Your leg's in jeopardy. 1.00

00:55:01.000 You might tear your fucking knee. 1.00

00:55:03.000 You're getting manipulated. 1.00

00:55:04.000 You've got two legs against one.

00:55:06.000 And when a guy's really good at it, a guy like Eddie, when they're really good at it and they have two legs against one, it puts you in a precarious position.

00:55:13.000 And it makes you vulnerable to a lot of different sweeps.

00:55:16.000 And here you're flipping them backwards.

00:55:18.000 That's when the crowd went nuts.

00:55:20.000 Well, dude, you've got his leg in a mangled position here. 0.89

00:55:24.000 There's an electric chair right here.

00:55:25.000 I didn't think this was the plan.

00:55:27.000 The plan was exactly what happened.

00:55:29.000 That was the plan.

00:55:30.000 I was going to go, just do what I do at the gym every night.

00:55:34.000 This is exactly what I do every night.

00:55:36.000 This is nothing new.

00:55:37.000 It wasn't a special strategy for Hoyler. 0.97

00:55:40.000 So that was John Jock's whole plan, is to get me to do what I normally do, the best shit I'm at, to do it out there on him. 0.97

00:55:50.000 And then he reversed you for a second. 0.97

00:55:52.000 I didn't have the leg on my shoulder.

00:55:55.000 So I go, let's go back and boom and get it.

00:55:58.000 So it looked like he swept me, but I went back to put that leg back on my shoulder and I went rock right back up.

00:56:03.000 So people thought, dude, I do it all the time.

00:56:06.000 You know, so now I'm in a position.

00:56:08.000 Oh, so you rocked it with momentum because you had full control over that leg.

00:56:11.000 It just wasn't on my shoulder.

00:56:13.000 I had to go back and scoop it up.

00:56:15.000 So now I'm on top, and now I'm in the electric chair on top, and this is where I'm talking to him.

00:56:19.000 I'm like, you can't do anything here.

00:56:21.000 Just relax.

00:56:21.000 This is where I rest.

00:56:22.000 I went through a lot of explosion, and I rest right here.

00:56:25.000 I have control of his legs.

00:56:27.000 That's why he was doing that thing with his hands.

00:56:28.000 Because people were wondering, like, why is he throwing his hands up in the air?

00:56:31.000 Like, you know, like, he did that a couple of times when you got him into side control.

00:56:34.000 He did that.

00:56:35.000 And then I passed the guard.

00:56:36.000 Boom.

00:56:36.000 And right here, I'm still, he's still stuck.

00:56:38.000 I got him in a cradle.

00:56:39.000 But that makes sense now because everybody wondered why he was doing that with his hands.

00:56:43.000 People were like, oh, Hoyler was complaining. 1.00

00:56:44.000 No, he was complaining because you were talking shit to him. 1.00

00:56:46.000 You were saying you're stuck here. 1.00

00:56:48.000 Don't move.

00:56:49.000 And maybe he was saying, I can't do nothing.

00:56:50.000 He's holding me.

00:56:51.000 He's holding me.

00:56:52.000 Like, this is jujitsu.

00:56:53.000 We're holding.

00:56:54.000 We're clenching and squeezing.

00:56:57.000 And he's all like, how could he complain about that?

00:56:59.000 He's totally immobile here.

00:57:00.000 Even though I let go of the lockdown and passed his guard, the reason why the pass was guaranteed is because of the control I have on his leg.

00:57:09.000 I have a head and arm...

00:57:09.000 and the leg so that pass was easy as soon as I let go the lockdown didn't want to let it go until I rest a little bit and then finally I let go the leg last and now I'm inside control and here's the big transition I thought he was gonna turn into me but he turns away so I'm like ooh that's even easier but he's rolling in a nice way but I had to turn it into a hundred percent here so this is halfway this is a a neck crank that I do to get the guy to give me his back so I'm neck cranking him here And if he pulls his left arm all the way out,

00:57:39.000 I usually transition to the back.

00:57:41.000 And that's what he did right there.

00:57:42.000 So now I'm getting up and his left arm is free now.

00:57:44.000 So all I got to do is get up on my right knee and then swirl to the back.

00:57:48.000 That's what I'm going to do here.

00:57:50.000 I wanted the twister.

00:57:51.000 That was the plan.

00:57:52.000 The plan was to get him in a twister, but he did a really good job of just shrugging me off.

00:57:57.000 So now I got to start over again.

00:57:59.000 So at this point, I'm thinking, this is what I'm really thinking.

00:58:02.000 I thought...

00:58:04.000 The most important thing for me is to go out there and not get smoked and not get tapped in 20 seconds or 30 seconds because that would be...

00:58:12.000 That would crush me.

00:58:13.000 That would be the worst possible thing.

00:58:15.000 So let's make sure that doesn't happen.

00:58:17.000 And if I lose, if I tap, at least let me go out there and give...

00:58:22.000 We have 20 minutes.

00:58:23.000 Let's see some good 10th planet techniques for my people just to show that it works.

00:58:27.000 If he taps...

00:58:28.000 So at this point, I'm thinking I did so much to him right there. 0.92

00:58:31.000 Textbook 10th planet shit all the way through, note for note. 0.99

00:58:35.000 That I thought if he, the worst case scenario, if he taps me in one second, at least I got some good shit in. 0.99

00:58:41.000 So in my mind, in my mind, because that's how much respect I have for him. 0.99

00:58:44.000 I'm like, he could still get me.

00:58:46.000 I'm not over.

00:58:46.000 We got like 13 minutes.

00:58:48.000 So in my mind, I already won.

00:58:50.000 I go, I won.

00:58:51.000 So when you think that way and you're... 1.00

00:58:54.000 I thought I already did all this shit. 0.99

00:58:57.000 So the worst case scenario, he tasked me out, I did a good job. 0.99

00:59:00.000 So for some reason that made me just want to attack him more and go, let's just keep putting, let's just keep piling up.

00:59:06.000 Oh, here's another one. 0.99

00:59:07.000 Damn, let's see if I could do another one. 0.99

00:59:08.000 Oh, here's another one. 1.00

00:59:09.000 And I just changed shit. 0.99

00:59:10.000 I go, damn, I'm not going to go for a twister. 0.99

00:59:12.000 I'm going to go for a vaporizer. 0.98

00:59:14.000 So when I get him in an electric chair and he doesn't tap, when I test his flexibility, If they don't tap, I can just sweep them and get on top and set them up for a twister, which I already tried, but I made the decision.

00:59:25.000 I go, you know what?

00:59:27.000 He's pretty good at shaking me off the back.

00:59:29.000 If I just go to the vaporizer, it'll look just as cool as the twister, and I do it all the time, and that's good enough.

00:59:37.000 So that was the plan.

00:59:38.000 I go, he's not stopping the electric chair, so I'm going to go back and get another...

00:59:42.000 I thought about rubber guard for a second there, and I thought, you know what?

00:59:44.000 You see how I got the underhook?

00:59:46.000 You see that?

00:59:46.000 I went, rubber guard...

00:59:49.000 Locked down, whipped him, he had the underhook, but that whip, boom, I sucked him around, bam! 1.00

00:59:53.000 That's a little whip-down combo. 0.95

00:59:55.000 A very important combo to master.

00:59:57.000 And now I got the underhook, so I thought, he's not stopping the electric tire tonight, because if he would have been able to...

01:00:02.000 He can't...

01:00:04.000 Able to do electric chairs easy.

01:00:05.000 So I knew I could just go back and more money in the bank.

01:00:08.000 I knew he couldn't stop it.

01:00:09.000 He just was perplexed here.

01:00:10.000 So I go, you know what?

01:00:11.000 I got to go to the vaporizer here, which means I got to get his leg over to my left shoulder on the other side.

01:00:18.000 I need to get my head.

01:00:20.000 I just need to squash his leg down and get on top in a leg drag type position, but a leg drag with a lockdown to maintain control. 1.00

01:00:30.000 So right now I go back to the electric chair for the third or fourth time.

01:00:33.000 And I was really confident at this point.

01:00:35.000 I just knew he wasn't going to tap from the electric chair, and I didn't want to pass his guard, get on top, and try the twister.

01:00:41.000 I already made the decision.

01:00:42.000 So for folks who don't know what we're talking about here, the electric chair is a move where you've got a guy literally in a full split.

01:00:47.000 You're controlling his bottom leg, and the other leg, you're forcing it up towards his head.

01:00:52.000 Most people don't have the flexibility to tolerate it, and a lot of times they tap just from that. 0.99

01:00:56.000 You're literally ripping their crotch apart. 0.97

01:00:59.000 Yeah, and right here, you know what? 0.99

01:01:01.000 I didn't get the position I wanted, so I'm letting him get on top so I can set it up again.

01:01:08.000 I go, he cannot stop it.

01:01:09.000 He can't stop my underhooks.

01:01:10.000 I already knew I had him beat on the inside.

01:01:12.000 So I'm going to set it up again and go back to the...

01:01:15.000 Because I wanted the vaporizer.

01:01:17.000 He foiled the vaporizer.

01:01:18.000 I lost control of his leg.

01:01:19.000 So I got to start over again.

01:01:21.000 So all of these times where he's on top, where the audience is like, oh, the tide has shifted back and forth, this is just you resetting.

01:01:27.000 Dude, he could not stop my half-guard game.

01:01:30.000 The confidence just kept growing and growing.

01:01:33.000 So even though he has the underhook, I go, watch, I'm going to get the underhook back.

01:01:36.000 I was already getting it back.

01:01:38.000 There's no way you could stop it.

01:01:40.000 See that?

01:01:41.000 Boom, whip down. 1.00

01:01:41.000 I go, I'm just going to keep doing it. 1.00

01:01:43.000 He can't stop it.

01:01:44.000 So, and then, I'm going to start all over.

01:01:47.000 I know he's not going to be able to...

01:01:48.000 He's not going to shake the lockdown.

01:01:50.000 The lockdown's too strong.

01:01:51.000 He was never close to ever getting his leg out.

01:01:53.000 I was so confident at this point.

01:01:56.000 I was getting a little gassed, and I knew I could recover.

01:01:59.000 All I needed was like a little time, so I'm...

01:02:04.000 To hide the gassiness, or the gassiness, I would stop breathing.

01:02:11.000 I'm dying inside, but I would stop breathing.

01:02:13.000 You know, like when Jason walks into your house and you're in the closet and you're like...

01:02:19.000 But then you go...

01:02:21.000 Yeah.

01:02:21.000 I was doing that just so he wouldn't smell.

01:02:23.000 Now I did it again.

01:02:24.000 I knew I could do it again.

01:02:25.000 Now I got to get his leg to the other side. 0.98

01:02:28.000 See, I'm holding on to his leg.

01:02:29.000 I need to get it to the other side of my body.

01:02:32.000 Right?

01:02:32.000 So I'm like, you know what?

01:02:33.000 Damn, I lost it again. 0.99

01:02:34.000 Let me chew it again. 0.99

01:02:35.000 So look at that.

01:02:37.000 Let me do it again.

01:02:38.000 They thought he reversed me, but I go, I'm just setting it up.

01:02:40.000 Now I got the leg over right there.

01:02:41.000 Boom.

01:02:42.000 Now that's where I want to be.

01:02:43.000 That's the transition right there.

01:02:45.000 And I go, ooh, I'm going to go after his leg.

01:02:47.000 I thought about it for a second there, but I go, no, you know what?

01:02:49.000 I'm going to roll.

01:02:50.000 I can't just reach back for it.

01:02:52.000 I've got to set it up. 0.82

01:02:53.000 I'm going to set it up right here, squash him down.

01:02:55.000 I thought about it again, but then he stopped it right there, and I go, okay, let me set it up differently.

01:03:00.000 But then we got broke up here, and this is where all the controversy happened.

01:03:03.000 Now, what the hell was going on here?

01:03:04.000 I knew what position we were in.

01:03:06.000 It was top stoner control.

01:03:08.000 I knew the position.

01:03:09.000 I'm there all the time.

01:03:10.000 He had no idea what I was doing.

01:03:12.000 And he didn't know that I knew.

01:03:13.000 He thought it was just some crazy, weird position.

01:03:16.000 And he didn't know where he was.

01:03:19.000 And I was here.

01:03:20.000 I pulled guard right here.

01:03:21.000 And I was going to say, here, give me your leg.

01:03:23.000 Let me throw it over.

01:03:23.000 I'm going to get on top.

01:03:24.000 And we're going to go back.

01:03:25.000 And I show you exactly the whole thing.

01:03:26.000 I was going to do it from the top.

01:03:29.000 See, I'm trying to do it from step one.

01:03:32.000 And then I was going to take him over and I was showing him the sweep instead of just getting in the position.

01:03:37.000 He's all confused.

01:03:38.000 He don't know what's going on.

01:03:39.000 I'm trying to...

01:03:40.000 I go, you got to get your leg over.

01:03:42.000 And he's not...

01:03:43.000 He keeps refusing.

01:03:45.000 I'm like, man, he's not letting me get in the position.

01:03:47.000 And look, he's like, no, no, no.

01:03:49.000 And he didn't know.

01:03:50.000 In his defense, he didn't know the position, but I know exactly what's going on. 0.99

01:03:54.000 He refuses to get in the position, and then I'm just thinking, I need to rest a little bit anyways, so this is bullshit. 0.99

01:04:00.000 I'm not going to argue. 0.98

01:04:01.000 We're just arguing here.

01:04:03.000 He won't let me. 1.00

01:04:04.000 Then I decided, fuck that. 1.00

01:04:07.000 Fuck this shit. 1.00

01:04:08.000 I'm not going to get fucked here. 1.00

01:04:09.000 And the crowd was going nuts, yelling, replay, replay, replay. 0.99

01:04:13.000 And so Scott Nelson looks over right here.

01:04:16.000 He looks over to Halleck, and he goes, what do you want me to do, Halleck?

01:04:18.000 Halleck said, stand him up.

01:04:20.000 Start standing.

01:04:21.000 And when, look, he's going to walk over right now.

01:04:23.000 And I said, what did he say?

01:04:24.000 And then they put the replay on.

01:04:26.000 He goes, Halleck said, stand him up.

01:04:28.000 He said, stand him up. 1.00

01:04:29.000 And I'm like, fuck that. 1.00

01:04:30.000 We're not standing up. 0.99

01:04:30.000 And then the replay comes on and everybody looks. 0.99

01:04:33.000 At the replay.

01:04:35.000 And then Hoyler just gets down and gets into position.

01:04:37.000 I go, look.

01:04:38.000 Look what the...

01:04:39.000 I know a position's going on.

01:04:40.000 So he let me have it.

01:04:41.000 See?

01:04:41.000 He said, okay.

01:04:43.000 No resistance once the video came out.

01:04:46.000 Yeah, you kept trying to sneak that left knee in.

01:04:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:48.000 And this is top stoner control right there.

01:04:51.000 Right.

01:04:51.000 They're still in control from the back and they're still in control from the top.

01:04:54.000 But he didn't have your wrists.

01:04:54.000 He didn't have your wrists before the break.

01:04:56.000 Well, it didn't matter.

01:04:56.000 It didn't matter.

01:04:57.000 None of this...

01:04:57.000 What I want here is I want him to push me away because I'm going to dip and roll.

01:05:02.000 I'm going to tuck and roll.

01:05:03.000 But if he holds on to me, I can't tuck and roll if he holds on.

01:05:07.000 So I got to make it look like I want to smash him and squeeze him because I could pass at any time.

01:05:12.000 The pass is guaranteed.

01:05:13.000 Do you want the for sure pass or do you want to try to tuck and roll and go for the kill right away and go after the vaporizer?

01:05:19.000 And I thought, I'm going right for the vaporizer. 1.00

01:05:21.000 Fuck passing his guard and then he recovers half guard and all that shit. 1.00

01:05:24.000 I want her to go for the kill right here. 1.00

01:05:26.000 So right now I'm on my side. 0.99

01:05:27.000 I'm setting it up.

01:05:28.000 I need to be up on my knees.

01:05:30.000 But just all I do is need to get up.

01:05:31.000 See, I'm getting up.

01:05:32.000 All I got to do is really get on top.

01:05:34.000 But I know I can get on top of him anytime I want.

01:05:36.000 I know this position.

01:05:37.000 I'm just waiting.

01:05:38.000 Now I'm on my knees.

01:05:39.000 I collected some gas.

01:05:40.000 I recovered.

01:05:41.000 He can't get out.

01:05:42.000 I'm in control here.

01:05:43.000 His legs are all mangled.

01:05:44.000 So what I want to do is turn to my right and roll on my left shoulder.

01:05:49.000 But I'm resting.

01:05:51.000 All I'm doing is resting.

01:05:52.000 I'm going to turn to my right, roll on my left shoulder, but I need him to push me.

01:05:57.000 See, I'm selling the fact that I want to squeeze him.

01:06:00.000 See, now he's pushing away?

01:06:01.000 He bought it.

01:06:02.000 He bought the fact that I wanted to squeeze him.

01:06:04.000 So this is what I always do.

01:06:05.000 So now I'm gurgling and going...

01:06:08.000 Like, I hate this.

01:06:09.000 Like, I hate this.

01:06:10.000 But look, he's gonna help me.

01:06:11.000 See how he helped me and he pushed me through?

01:06:13.000 He pushed me through.

01:06:14.000 He pushed me through and now you got this.

01:06:16.000 And I thought for sure he was going to tap.

01:06:18.000 This is the vaporizer.

01:06:19.000 No one has ever not tapped to this.

01:06:21.000 This is, in my arsenal, the nastiest leg lock.

01:06:25.000 It's a calf crank and it's a toe hold at the same time.

01:06:28.000 And he can't protect himself with his other leg.

01:06:31.000 His other leg is...

01:06:31.000 We're on his other leg, so his other leg is useless.

01:06:34.000 I can use both my arms as opposed to the calf crank from the truck.

01:06:38.000 The calf crank from the truck, you can't use both arms for fear.

01:06:42.000 The left, yeah.

01:07:02.000 And the fact that his leg popped at least seven times.

01:07:05.000 It was popping and cracking.

01:07:06.000 And I'm telling him right here.

01:07:08.000 I'm asking him.

01:07:09.000 I go, dude, we can end this.

01:07:10.000 And he's like, no.

01:07:10.000 See that?

01:07:11.000 He's like, no.

01:07:11.000 I go, we can stop this.

01:07:12.000 It keeps popping.

01:07:13.000 He goes, that's normal.

01:07:14.000 That's normal.

01:07:14.000 I go, it keeps popping.

01:07:17.000 And he refused to tap.

01:07:19.000 He refused, man.

01:07:21.000 And I was yanking.

01:07:22.000 So I thought...

01:07:23.000 I was doing things I never did to that vaporizer.

01:07:26.000 I usually just grab the toes with both hands, twist it and pull.

01:07:30.000 And it's really easy.

01:07:31.000 And the calf crank from the truck, another thing that you need, you need to stomp the inside of your left foot with your right foot.

01:07:39.000 You've got to shove your leg deeper into the back of his knee. 0.99

01:07:43.000 Look how nasty that looks.

01:07:45.000 But in the calf crank, you need a stomp.

01:07:47.000 In this one, you don't need a stomp.

01:07:48.000 You can just keep your legs figure-forward.

01:07:50.000 Both arms, that's enough pressure.

01:07:52.000 Just leave your legs figure four. 0.98

01:07:54.000 But if for some crazy reason, they don't tap like he did, then you would go to the stomp to add even more pressure.

01:08:00.000 But he was holding the gi pant.

01:08:02.000 So I could see, he's holding my right leg.

01:08:05.000 I need to use my right foot and stomp on the inside of my left foot.

01:08:09.000 I need to pull it up and stomp on it.

01:08:11.000 And you can't get his hands free.

01:08:12.000 I can't get my leg free.

01:08:14.000 You see how he's holding it?

01:08:15.000 Right.

01:08:17.000 So I decided, you know what, I generally don't need to stomp on that foot, so I'm still trying to make him tap like everyone else taps without it.

01:08:24.000 But see how he's holding it?

01:08:25.000 So I grab his foot, I'm twisting it, and I thought, there's like a minute left, I go, I'm gonna give it everything I got one more time.

01:08:33.000 And I just grab his foot, something I never do, and I twisted it and shoved it, like try to shove it like in his ribs, man.

01:08:40.000 And he still wouldn't tap, and you're just popping, and it's just, he didn't care.

01:08:44.000 He just kept going.

01:08:45.000 He knew that if he didn't tap, it would be a draw, and that's what he needed.

01:08:48.000 He couldn't have you tap him twice.

01:08:51.000 He has nothing.

01:08:51.000 The fact that he's holding onto my gi pants there, that's what's saving him.

01:08:55.000 That's so crazy.

01:08:56.000 Yeah, he's in some serious danger right here.

01:08:59.000 If you had to do it again, would you do it with gi pants again? 0.95

01:09:01.000 Yes.

01:09:01.000 Yes, because the Gee Pants made those electric chairs so easy.

01:09:05.000 He was never close to pulling his leg out of the lockdown.

01:09:09.000 The traction is just unbelievable.

01:09:11.000 The Pants were bad for him in a lot of ways, but it saved him right here.

01:09:17.000 In this one position.

01:09:18.000 Yeah, it did save him.

01:09:19.000 I would have went back to Pants anyways with that whole Pants scandal thing. 1.00

01:09:26.000 I asked to wear pants.

01:09:28.000 They said, okay, you can wear pants if you promise not to change your mind.

01:09:31.000 I wanted to change my mind.

01:09:33.000 They said, you promise not to change it.

01:09:35.000 And then so they made me wear what I asked for.

01:09:39.000 So I met his lawyer.

01:09:41.000 His lawyer, it ended up being really, really cool, man.

01:09:43.000 The guy that was trying to protect Hoyler from the pant hole situation. 0.99

01:09:48.000 That's when you're twisting it?

01:09:50.000 Dude, yeah, I'm pushing down and trying to smash the twist.

01:09:52.000 He's obviously in some serious pain here.

01:09:54.000 But it's incredible that he's not tapping.

01:09:56.000 What do you think happened to the knee, if you had to guess?

01:09:59.000 Is there some damage?

01:10:00.000 I don't know.

01:10:00.000 Maybe his knee always pops and that's just normal.

01:10:04.000 That's the thing they say about him is that he won't tap to joint locks.

01:10:07.000 Remember when Sakuraba got him in that Kimura?

01:10:09.000 Yeah.

01:10:10.000 And they stopped the fight and he's like, don't stop the fight.

01:10:12.000 I'm there all day.

01:10:14.000 I'm fine.

01:10:15.000 I don't get tapped from those things.

01:10:17.000 Yeah, man.

01:10:18.000 So, like Halleck said, please don't watch this on YouTube.

01:10:22.000 If you do watch on YouTube, please support Metamorphosis.

01:10:25.000 Go there and purchase one for $20.

01:10:28.000 There's a lot of high-level matches, and it was really fun.

01:10:32.000 People kept saying you were going nuts.

01:10:34.000 I was going crazy. 0.97

01:10:34.000 You were going crazy. 0.97

01:10:35.000 They go, dude, you got to watch video.

01:10:38.000 If there's video of Joe watching your match, you were just exploding.

01:10:42.000 Yeah.

01:10:42.000 Dude, I thought I was going to have a heart attack.

01:10:44.000 I left there.

01:10:44.000 I couldn't talk to people.

01:10:45.000 I ran when the match was over.

01:10:46.000 I had to get out of there.

01:10:48.000 There's no way I was going to be able to have a conversation with people on the street, regular folks.

01:10:53.000 But I didn't know.

01:10:54.000 And I didn't want to have that conversation with anybody.

01:10:57.000 I ran out of there.

01:10:58.000 Wow.

01:10:58.000 Dude, my heart was pounding.

01:11:00.000 Yeah, they said you were going nuts.

01:11:01.000 Were you drunk? 0.71

01:11:02.000 No, not at all.

01:11:03.000 Completely sober.

01:11:04.000 Were you one of the guys that cheered when the lockdown came into place?

01:11:08.000 And were you kind of worried in the beginning?

01:11:10.000 Because there was like five minutes of jocking.

01:11:11.000 I was never worried.

01:11:12.000 He got the underhook, even when he had the underhook?

01:11:14.000 No, that didn't mean enough.

01:11:15.000 Because it looked like the same match.

01:11:17.000 It looked like 2003, right?

01:11:18.000 I know too much about your game.

01:11:19.000 I've seen you roll too many times.

01:11:21.000 I felt it, too.

01:11:22.000 I know that lockdown is hot death.

01:11:25.000 You get a hold of your leg, man. 0.99

01:11:26.000 That's scary as shit. 0.99

01:11:27.000 I hate that feeling. 0.99

01:11:28.000 Your lockdown is like you're being compressed in between boards.

01:11:32.000 That's what it feels like.

01:11:33.000 It's like you figured out a way to do it, and you do it so well, and you've done it for so many years, that you know the exact, correct, perfect angle to hit it where it's like...

01:11:42.000 Your bone is digging into meat.

01:11:43.000 Your shin bone is digging into meat.

01:11:45.000 And you just, you do a thing.

01:11:48.000 You know, I like the analogy that you always use with tying your shoes.

01:11:51.000 That when you tie your shoes, you tie your shoes every day.

01:11:53.000 So when you go to tie your shoes, it's just automatic.

01:11:55.000 It just goes.

01:11:56.000 It's magic.

01:11:57.000 Yeah, you don't even think about it.

01:11:58.000 It's just...

01:11:58.000 You had no command.

01:12:00.000 That just happened on its own.

01:12:01.000 And when you do jujitsu long enough, and you drill long enough, and you're in a certain position long enough, you develop that too.

01:12:08.000 You see it with...

01:12:09.000 The only forms of movements that I'm really knowledgeable about are striking movements and grappling movements, but you see it in those as well.

01:12:17.000 And I guess you see it in everything.

01:12:19.000 You see it in throwing a football.

01:12:20.000 You see it in baseball.

01:12:21.000 You see it in everything. 0.99

01:12:23.000 When someone gets some shit down and they really got it down, like, you know, like Paul Sass in his triangle. 0.99

01:12:30.000 That motherfucker, you know, if you get caught in that guy's triangle, that dude's been there a thousand times. 0.99

01:12:35.000 He's just got a, he's got a, just a feel for it, that extraordinary feel that rarely happens. 1.00

01:12:41.000 Like, Ronda Rousey's arm bars.

01:12:42.000 Same kind of thing.

01:12:44.000 And your lockdown is just death.

01:12:46.000 And I saw that.

01:12:47.000 Once I saw the lockdown, I was like, oh, he's in trouble.

01:12:49.000 Like, if he let him get that...

01:12:51.000 You were that confident? 1.00

01:12:51.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:12:53.000 Man, you know, people were telling me of things you were saying before that match and your predictions. 1.00

01:12:58.000 And, man, that kind of stuff scares me.

01:13:00.000 I'm like, dude, you and Jean-Jacques...

01:13:02.000 I was being very conservative.

01:13:03.000 You and Jean-Jacques have so much confidence in me.

01:13:06.000 That's like... 0.99

01:13:07.000 Man, the feeling of getting smoked and what you guys would think, like, damn. 0.97

01:13:12.000 I didn't ever want that look in your eye, that third or fourth time that I did open mic night where I was getting a little confidence. 0.98

01:13:21.000 And that one time I went on stage and I thought I'd do something different and not tell jokes, but be like a comic talking about his wife and his girlfriend.

01:13:31.000 It's not really his wife and it ends up being some stripper and he's delusional and he thinks it's his wife and I try to do that on stage, you know what I mean, like later, but it wasn't, no one laughed and I got off stage and you were like, come here, follow me.

01:13:48.000 You were like this.

01:13:49.000 You couldn't even look me in the eye, dude.

01:13:51.000 No, that's not true.

01:13:53.000 You were like, what are we going to do?

01:13:55.000 Come back with me. 0.99

01:13:56.000 And you took me to the back and you fucking lectured me in a good way. 0.99

01:13:59.000 You said, dude, you can't do shit like that. 1.00

01:14:03.000 You got to be a bad motherfucker to pull something like that. 1.00

01:14:05.000 No one gets it, dude. 1.00

01:14:07.000 You got to tell jokes.

01:14:08.000 You can't get up there and try to tell a story.

01:14:10.000 It's an open mic night.

01:14:12.000 He goes, dude, I felt like... 1.00

01:14:14.000 Like you talk about bombing on stage, eat a thousand dicks. 1.00

01:14:18.000 I felt that. 0.99

01:14:19.000 What I was trying to do is figure out how I could describe it to you.

01:14:23.000 The reason why I wasn't looking you in the eyes, I was like, come here, man.

01:14:27.000 All I was thinking is, what is the best way?

01:14:30.000 Because this is a very sensitive moment, and I knew that it would be devastating.

01:14:33.000 That's what it was.

01:14:34.000 It's a very sensitive moment, so I'm trying to figure out how to...

01:14:37.000 That look.

01:14:38.000 That look.

01:14:38.000 I don't want that look.

01:14:39.000 I don't want that look of, oh, that's Joe's look of, how can he be nice to tell me something I did was terrible.

01:14:46.000 LAUGHTER How could he be nice?

01:14:48.000 Like if I went out there and Hoyler just got me to ankle lock in five seconds.

01:14:53.000 Like right away.

01:14:54.000 Just right away. 0.52

01:14:55.000 Like let's say I did something stupid and I tried to pull guard and I clowned around a little bit for five seconds and I pulled guard and he got me to ankle lock and I tapped. 0.78

01:15:02.000 Like before I even yanked and I just tapped and it was like early tappage. 0.96

01:15:05.000 It was the worst possible case scenario.

01:15:08.000 And what would you, you'd be like the same thing. 1.00

01:15:11.000 I'd be like, oh shit. 0.99

01:15:12.000 What would you say? 1.00

01:15:13.000 What would you say? 1.00

01:15:14.000 Shit happens, bro. 1.00

01:15:16.000 Like, what could you say? 1.00

01:15:17.000 What can you say?

01:15:18.000 I didn't want that look on your face, man.

01:15:20.000 You know why?

01:15:21.000 You know why? 1.00

01:15:22.000 Because the more shit you talk to your friends and all that about, like, Eddie's going to dominate and, like, John Jock's making bets with people. 1.00

01:15:29.000 He's betting his house and shit. 1.00

01:15:31.000 I'm like, ooh. 0.99

01:15:32.000 Like, not only... 1.00

01:15:34.000 You can handle me and you, like, dude, you fucked up. 1.00

01:15:37.000 But, like, all that shit you talked, you're like, damn, I talked a lot of shit on video. 1.00

01:15:41.000 That's not going to look... 1.00

01:15:42.000 That's going to sting.

01:15:43.000 Yeah.

01:15:43.000 I'm gonna eat all those words.

01:15:45.000 Fuck! 1.00

01:15:47.000 So that's, I think about that shit too. 1.00

01:15:49.000 You talk, like, Jon Jock's telling everyone, like someone from the Gracie family called him up and they wanted to make a bet and Jon Jock said, are you serious? 0.99

01:15:58.000 How sure I am he's gonna win?

01:15:59.000 I'll bet your house.

01:16:00.000 You wanna bet your house literally?

01:16:01.000 Bet your house.

01:16:03.000 We're good to go.

01:16:25.000 And then Jean-Jacques said, okay, you're right.

01:16:27.000 This match doesn't need a rep.

01:16:29.000 And he sat down next to his other coach and goes, go ahead, start fighting.

01:16:33.000 My boy's going to get your boy in an armbar and it's going to be his right arm.

01:16:37.000 And everyone heard that and all of a sudden I'm like, oh no. 1.00

01:16:42.000 I'm fucked. 1.00

01:16:44.000 Talk about pressure. 1.00

01:16:45.000 No one's ever done shit like that. 0.99

01:16:46.000 That is a true story, man. 0.98

01:16:48.000 That's a true story.

01:16:49.000 So what happened?

01:16:50.000 He sat down.

01:16:50.000 I got the guy in the armbar.

01:16:52.000 So he did it because John Jock said it?

01:16:54.000 Or would you have gone for it anyway?

01:16:55.000 He says that it's almost like he says it. 0.99

01:16:58.000 He wants me to hear it so that I have no choice to go out there and fucking go to war. 0.99

01:17:04.000 I have no choice. 0.98

01:17:07.000 Whatever he has to say to make it happen.

01:17:12.000 I think he knows that if there's enough pressure that I'll be forced to do my game.

01:17:19.000 All he wants to do is play my game, right?

01:17:20.000 So he had to play some psychological warfare with me in my camp. 1.00

01:17:24.000 It was all about playing my shit. 1.00

01:17:27.000 He goes, how can I get this motherfucker to do what he does here all the time? 1.00

01:17:30.000 You know, because I haven't competed in a long time. 0.99

01:17:32.000 I could have easily folded from the pressure.

01:17:34.000 People get the, you know, jitters.

01:17:36.000 Eleven years.

01:17:37.000 Yeah.

01:17:37.000 People fold.

01:17:38.000 This is a huge match, man. 0.99

01:17:40.000 Ten Planet against, you know, versus a Gracie, like right there in our hometowns and everyone's screaming and there's It's some crazy shit. 0.98

01:17:47.000 A lot of pressure. 0.98

01:17:48.000 My family, my mom, I thought.

01:17:50.000 My son, my wife was there. 0.99

01:17:52.000 I'm like, holy shit. 0.99

01:17:52.000 My mom's there and my wife's there. 0.99

01:17:54.000 This is like I'm at the MGM Grand at some main event. 0.99

01:17:58.000 I'm like, holy shit. 0.99

01:17:59.000 There's so much pressure. 0.99

01:18:01.000 The place was packed. 1.00

01:18:02.000 My head instructors, all my students, all the shit you talk, Jean-Jacques. 1.00

01:18:06.000 All this pressure. 0.99

01:18:09.000 So I thought, man, there's a chance.

01:18:11.000 People fold under pressure.

01:18:12.000 There's a lot of pressure.

01:18:13.000 All different kind of dimensions.

01:18:15.000 And will I be one of those dudes that fold?

01:18:17.000 But what I realized is that I did want to win.

01:18:22.000 I did want to do my best.

01:18:23.000 That's the most important. 0.99

01:18:24.000 Just clear out all the bullshit. 0.99

01:18:26.000 Do you want to do your best? 1.00

01:18:27.000 Yes. 1.00

01:18:27.000 The best thing is to do your shit. 1.00

01:18:29.000 Go after them. 1.00

01:18:30.000 Trust your cardio.

01:18:31.000 Go after them.

01:18:32.000 And all those little leaks...

01:18:35.000 On this dam that was about to burst with all this pressure and all these leaks.

01:18:38.000 I could fix all these leaks, and all I had to do was focus on one thing, just going after him and trusting myself.

01:18:44.000 Okay, cool, cool.

01:18:45.000 So then, bam, it was all about, dude, you have no choice. 0.99

01:18:48.000 Go out there and fucking make it happen. 0.98

01:18:50.000 You're not folding under this pressure. 0.98

01:18:52.000 You're gonna do it, and you're gonna go after him 100%, and you're gonna do your best.

01:18:57.000 Did you think about doing it high?

01:18:58.000 No.

01:18:59.000 Not at all?

01:18:59.000 No.

01:19:00.000 Too much pressure?

01:19:01.000 Too much pressure.

01:19:02.000 Yeah.

01:19:02.000 When you're under pressure, I don't suggest inhalation of cannabis.

01:19:08.000 What about a light edible?

01:19:10.000 No, I didn't even want to take it.

01:19:11.000 I had so much weed in me.

01:19:13.000 The one thing I learned at Jean Jacques is I was never stoned when I went to Jean Jacques because I wanted to make sure we trained at the same time we were going to compete.

01:19:23.000 I wanted to train right there.

01:19:24.000 I was at that same time, like 6.30ish, 7.30 or 7 in that area, just get my body going a million percent. 1.00

01:19:31.000 Shark tank like a motherfucker. 1.00

01:19:33.000 Getting my ass kicked. 1.00

01:19:34.000 I've never been tapped so much in my life going through these shark tanks. 1.00

01:19:38.000 It's crazy. 0.98

01:19:39.000 It doesn't feel great to constantly get tapped by people and getting fucking wrecked. 0.94

01:19:43.000 You know, trying to last an hour straight with fresh animals, black belts waiting to jump on you and start on your back and start on the mount and start in bad position. 1.00

01:19:52.000 I was getting fucked up, dude. 0.99

01:19:56.000 It's the only way to do it though, right? 0.99

01:19:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:20:00.000 And the swimming, that was really a fascinating thing that we talked about.

01:20:04.000 Yeah, the swimming was important because I'm not a real athlete.

01:20:08.000 I don't ever do cardio.

01:20:09.000 I do jujitsu for the fun of it.

01:20:13.000 And the fact that it keeps you in shape, that's awesome.

01:20:17.000 Beautiful.

01:20:17.000 Kill two birds with one stone.

01:20:19.000 It's fun.

01:20:19.000 It's awesome.

01:20:20.000 My job is teaching people how to strangle each other and break limbs. 0.98

01:20:23.000 I'm fucking lucky. 1.00

01:20:25.000 Embrace that shit. 1.00

01:20:26.000 I love it. 1.00

01:20:27.000 Competing is different.

01:20:29.000 There were days where I got to see my son five minutes here, five minutes there, day after day. 0.98

01:20:33.000 I'm like, damn, I'm not seeing my son that much. 0.88

01:20:36.000 I can't wait to get home just to get home before he goes to sleep just so I can see him for five minutes. 0.99

01:20:41.000 I'm like, man, my wife's under a lot of pressure.

01:20:45.000 She's handling everything.

01:20:45.000 I'm always training.

01:20:46.000 Everything's on my schedule.

01:20:48.000 Everything is...

01:20:49.000 Priority is me, and that's not the way it's always been.

01:20:52.000 We work together, but I told her this two months, I go, I could lock my way up in Big Bear and be away from you guys and do it that way.

01:21:00.000 That's a good idea.

01:21:01.000 If people heard I did that, they would think, Buck, yeah, he's doing the right thing.

01:21:05.000 Or I could train hard, and you let me do whatever the hell I want to do for this match, and I don't want to hear any...

01:21:13.000 I don't...

01:21:16.000 I have to be able to do without any stress because we have a baby boy and we trade off.

01:21:21.000 It's a team.

01:21:22.000 It's a management.

01:21:23.000 I got my time.

01:21:24.000 She's got her time.

01:21:25.000 And we work together.

01:21:26.000 But this camp, I said, I can go to Big Bear and you have to take care of him 24-7.

01:21:31.000 Or I could stay here, but you still take care of him. 0.99

01:21:34.000 But I get to see him too in between all this shit. 0.97

01:21:36.000 So I'm still here with the family as much as I can. 0.92

01:21:37.000 But I need you to understand.

01:21:40.000 Man, she was just...

01:21:42.000 Did everything and made sure that my, you know, man, she's just amazing.

01:21:50.000 That's awesome.

01:21:51.000 So it was beautiful.

01:21:52.000 The training camp was beautiful.

01:21:54.000 So I thought, should I do the Marcelo Garcia thing?

01:21:58.000 And he says, I don't do any strength and conditioning.

01:22:01.000 I don't do any conditioning.

01:22:02.000 I just train jujitsu hard every day.

01:22:05.000 I don't know how many hours.

01:22:06.000 See, that's what Marcelo does.

01:22:07.000 And he gets away with it.

01:22:08.000 He doesn't do anything extra.

01:22:09.000 He just does jujitsu.

01:22:10.000 That's amazing.

01:22:11.000 You've heard that from several people.

01:22:12.000 Pedro Hizo said that, all I do is MMA, that's it.

01:22:15.000 I don't do anything else.

01:22:16.000 I don't do any cardio.

01:22:17.000 Sakuraba never did cardio.

01:22:18.000 But generally, 99% of professional athletes have a cardio program.

01:22:22.000 They got a system, and they got trainers, and they got clocks, and they got the heart rate, they got the thing on the heart, and then the thing on the arm.

01:22:30.000 It's a science.

01:22:32.000 And they master their body.

01:22:33.000 And ooh, look what the body does. 0.99

01:22:34.000 Oh, it's better here. 1.00

01:22:36.000 And they've mastered that shit. 1.00

01:22:39.000 Marcelo doesn't do that. 1.00

01:22:40.000 So I thought, man, it's way better.

01:22:42.000 It's easier. 0.97

01:22:43.000 It's lazier if I just fucking just try to just do jujitsu. 0.98

01:22:48.000 I thought about that for the first week of camp, once it was official, but then I thought, you know what, I don't want to go into this match with any fucking doubts. 0.97

01:22:58.000 Let me get my cardio on the professional tip.

01:23:01.000 You know, for once in your life, train like a professional athlete.

01:23:04.000 I was already lifting weights for years, so I was already strong.

01:23:07.000 When I got offered the fight, I was like, hell yeah, I'm stronger than I've ever been.

01:23:11.000 I was already in good shape to teach and stuff, but I never did cardio. 0.99

01:23:16.000 So I decided, okay, fuck it. 0.99

01:23:18.000 I'm going to do cardio like a professional athlete. 1.00

01:23:20.000 What should I do?

01:23:20.000 I don't like to run.

01:23:22.000 You run, you swim, or you bike.

01:23:25.000 That's good enough.

01:23:27.000 For 2003, I did the rock climbing treadmill. 1.00

01:23:30.000 Remember that shit? 1.00

01:23:31.000 Yeah, I remember that shit. 1.00

01:23:32.000 We did like three minutes and then blah, blah, blah. 0.99

01:23:35.000 I don't remember the time thing.

01:23:36.000 I was just...

01:23:37.000 You were doing rounds.

01:23:38.000 Yeah, rounds.

01:23:38.000 I think it was like whatever the rounds were in Abu Dhabi.

01:23:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:23:42.000 So I don't really remember too much of what I was thinking back then.

01:23:46.000 Again, I never...

01:23:49.000 I did that for 2005 Abu Dhabi too.

01:23:52.000 I thought, okay, this is fun, treadmill rock climbing.

01:23:54.000 But I got hurt 2005 Abu Dhabi.

01:23:56.000 So this time I thought, then I started swimming.

01:23:58.000 Remember I was using your pool and I started swimming?

01:24:00.000 I think that was for the Pahompina fight. 1.00

01:24:03.000 I go, fuck the treadmill rock climbing. 1.00

01:24:04.000 Let me try swimming. 0.99

01:24:05.000 So I swam a little bit and then the Katrina hit, that didn't end up happening. 1.00

01:24:09.000 So, again, I'm not a professional athlete, but I decided, fuck it. 0.99

01:24:12.000 I got six weeks. 0.99

01:24:13.000 Let me get my cardio together professionally.

01:24:15.000 Let me go in there.

01:24:16.000 And the one thing...

01:24:17.000 I decided to swim.

01:24:19.000 I went to 24-Hour Fitness to have a big-ass clock.

01:24:20.000 I didn't even know what I was going to do.

01:24:22.000 I just thought, okay, let me just...

01:24:26.000 Sprint.

01:24:26.000 Sprint across the pool.

01:24:28.000 See how long it takes.

01:24:29.000 As soon as the clock hit 12, I sprinted.

01:24:32.000 And it took me either from like 20 to 30 seconds to get across the pool.

01:24:36.000 So I decided, you know what I'm going to do?

01:24:38.000 20 times, I'm going to sprint across the pool and rest the remainder of that minute.

01:24:43.000 And as soon as the clock hits the 12, bam!

01:24:45.000 Sprint across again.

01:24:46.000 And then whenever I get there, the rest of the minute, every time the hand hits 12, go.

01:24:53.000 And I do that 20 times just because it was 20-minute rounds.

01:24:57.000 I don't know if it was too much or too little.

01:24:59.000 I said, hey, it's symbolic or whatever.

01:25:01.000 So I know sprinting 100%, running 20 times is a lot.

01:25:06.000 Sometimes you want to do 10 sprints or you want to do the sand dune.

01:25:09.000 Sprint up the sand dune six times or seven times.

01:25:11.000 I've said 20 times.

01:25:12.000 It's 20 minutes.

01:25:13.000 That might not be that much, but what I learned about myself is how long it takes to recover.

01:25:18.000 That was the most important thing. 0.95

01:25:20.000 That would have fucked me up in this fight. 0.98

01:25:22.000 If I didn't do the cardio, I would have fell apart. 0.98

01:25:25.000 I would have...

01:25:26.000 I didn't understand how the heart works. 0.86

01:25:29.000 I've been training consistently since 2003 at my gym, and the way I treated my cardio is I would go as hard as I can, and then once I start gassing, I thought, okay, the rest of this round I'm going to hold on, sit on my ass for maybe five minutes, maybe ten minutes, 0.91

01:25:45.000 depending. 0.74

01:25:45.000 I'm not training for anything. 0.74

01:25:46.000 And then get my second wind and then come back.

01:25:48.000 That's what I thought cardio was.

01:25:50.000 It's like you go, once you're out of gas, hey, you're out of gas, you're gonna need some rest, settle down for a while.

01:25:55.000 You got far, you got seven minutes.

01:25:56.000 You have seven minutes before you gas.

01:25:58.000 That's what I thought, you have seven.

01:25:59.000 I didn't know about recovery and the mastery of recovery.

01:26:02.000 And that gas, you can recover from that easy, you just gotta know you can.

01:26:05.000 If you don't think you can, you won't.

01:26:07.000 So by doing those sprints, it gave you confidence that you could use 100% of your energy?

01:26:11.000 Yeah, because I would sprint.

01:26:13.000 Are you doing what kind of stroke?

01:26:15.000 Just swimming.

01:26:16.000 Just swimming. 0.99

01:26:16.000 Basic fucking swimming like a lake. 0.99

01:26:19.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:26:20.000 Breast stroke like that? 0.98

01:26:23.000 What is that called?

01:26:24.000 One left arm, right arm?

01:26:25.000 What is it?

01:26:27.000 Freestyle.

01:26:27.000 Okay.

01:26:28.000 Like this. 0.99

01:26:29.000 Just like a retard. 1.00

01:26:31.000 Okay. 0.99

01:26:31.000 Bad technique. 0.99

01:26:33.000 You're just trying to desert yourself.

01:26:33.000 I'm just sprinting.

01:26:35.000 I'm panicking across the pool.

01:26:36.000 Okay.

01:26:37.000 So, the first time I get by, the first one, it's not that I get by, I'm like...

01:26:42.000 That was the first one I sprinted.

01:26:46.000 And I'm waiting for a minute.

01:26:47.000 I'm like, I could really just keep going, but I'm just like, this is what I'm doing.

01:26:50.000 So after the third one, I was like, I'm at the edge of the pool.

01:26:56.000 I got this.

01:26:57.000 I got 30 seconds, 35 seconds to recover.

01:27:00.000 At the 10th one, thinking about quitting.

01:27:03.000 After every sprint, I'm like...

01:27:06.000 People at the pool, there's old ladies by the sauna. 0.98

01:27:08.000 They're watching this tattooed guy dying in the pool.

01:27:13.000 And I got 10 more to go.

01:27:18.000 Dying.

01:27:18.000 But I know that when the clock hits the 8, I'm dying.

01:27:24.000 When it hits the 9, I'm dying.

01:27:25.000 When it hits the 10, I'm still dying. 0.99

01:27:27.000 But damn, right before it hits the 11, take a big deep breath, ready to go. 0.98

01:27:31.000 You have to go at that 12. And the crazy thing about it is you don't need a trainer to tell you to hurry up because you're going across that pool as fast as you can because you want a lot of time to rest and recover. 0.99

01:27:41.000 You're racing for that recovery time.

01:27:43.000 So there's no way I never went 100%.

01:27:46.000 I had to go as 100% as fast as I can to get across that pool so I can rest.

01:27:51.000 So you never didn't go 100%.

01:27:52.000 Yes.

01:27:53.000 Yes.

01:27:53.000 I didn't need anybody to time.

01:27:54.000 I go, dude, I know, motherfucker. 1.00

01:27:56.000 I'm trying to rest on that motherfucker. 1.00

01:27:57.000 I'm trying to rest. 1.00

01:27:59.000 So it makes me, dude, it kicks my ass. 1.00

01:28:02.000 I want to quit at 14. I go, I did a lot. 1.00

01:28:04.000 14's a lot.

01:28:05.000 I'm sorry.

01:28:06.000 14's a lot.

01:28:06.000 It's all good.

01:28:07.000 I could do it.

01:28:08.000 I still gained.

01:28:08.000 I made gains today.

01:28:09.000 I don't have to go 20. I'm like, fuck. 1.00

01:28:11.000 I'm at 15. I'm like, I could do five. 1.00

01:28:14.000 Five seems like so many. 1.00

01:28:15.000 I'm like, fuck. 1.00

01:28:16.000 When I'm like at 7 or 8 and I'm gassing, I'm like, fuck, I got 12 more. 1.00

01:28:19.000 And you can't stop. 0.99

01:28:20.000 You're on a clock.

01:28:21.000 When that clock hits 12, you got to go.

01:28:24.000 So it's a nightmare.

01:28:26.000 It's torture. 0.99

01:28:27.000 No one's forcing me to do it, but I just fucking do it. 0.99

01:28:30.000 And I did it twice a week. 0.97

01:28:32.000 And there's some cardio machines out there that laugh at that.

01:28:35.000 They think that's nothing.

01:28:36.000 And there's professional athletes go, do we warm up?

01:28:38.000 Well, that's just because you build up from a base.

01:28:40.000 And these guys have been going at it like that for a long time. 0.81

01:28:43.000 Yeah, but what ended up happening, I don't know how a football player would do it or if that's a fucking child's play or whatever, but what it did for my jiu-jitsu, automatically.

01:28:52.000 I knew in the middle of that hour shark tank when I hit that first, I knew, you just tell yourself, dude, you can recover. 0.66

01:29:00.000 Find a place to hang out, conserve your energy, wait 30 seconds, it's going to come back and then...

01:29:06.000 Oh my god, cool. 0.99

01:29:08.000 So at first, you're like, oh shit. 0.99

01:29:10.000 Two weeks ago, before I started doing this, I would have said, it's over, son. 1.00

01:29:15.000 I ran out of gas.

01:29:16.000 I'm going to need to stop.

01:29:18.000 I did good.

01:29:19.000 I got seven minutes.

01:29:19.000 I got eight minutes.

01:29:20.000 I got 12 minutes.

01:29:21.000 That's not the way it was.

01:29:22.000 So I would keep going for an hour, dude.

01:29:24.000 My muscles would...

01:29:25.000 Our muscles would be more tired than my heart.

01:29:28.000 My heart could keep going.

01:29:29.000 I used to be dead after that Shark Tank in the beginning for an hour.

01:29:32.000 I would be dead just from the Shark Tank.

01:29:34.000 Dude, I wasn't even getting that tired after Shark Tank.

01:29:36.000 That's incredible.

01:29:37.000 There were some...

01:29:38.000 There was times where...

01:29:39.000 Explain what a Shark Tank is.

01:29:40.000 People...

01:29:40.000 You've said that term a couple times.

01:29:43.000 I'm...

01:29:44.000 There's, you know, you get as many guys as you want in the Shark Tank.

01:29:49.000 It's dedicated to one person, obviously dedicated to me on this training camp.

01:29:52.000 I'd get in the middle and there'd be, you know, three to ten guys sitting around, black belts, purple belts, and they're all waiting their turn to get their five minutes with me, like starting on my back, starting on a mount, all these positions, some like in my guard.

01:30:05.000 Or I'm in their guard.

01:30:07.000 Just all these positions.

01:30:08.000 So you're controlling me on the belly with the underhook.

01:30:10.000 On the back a lot.

01:30:11.000 A lot.

01:30:12.000 Mount a lot.

01:30:14.000 And man, just fresh guys coming in.

01:30:16.000 All my best guys coming in.

01:30:18.000 Getting mangled and tapped.

01:30:20.000 Because I'm trying to conserve my energy.

01:30:22.000 I'm trying to last an hour.

01:30:23.000 But then you're like, dude, you've got to trust your cardio.

01:30:25.000 You can't conserve.

01:30:26.000 You had a bad night.

01:30:27.000 I was having bad nights, good nights, bad nights. 1.00

01:30:30.000 A lot of shit. 1.00

01:30:31.000 Sean Shock. 1.00

01:30:32.000 The main thing is...

01:30:34.000 I didn't want to go in there and be too cautious and go, it's 20 minutes.

01:30:38.000 I better be...

01:30:39.000 Because I would get that way in Shark Tank sometimes where I'm like, dude, I got Sean Bollinger next.

01:30:43.000 I got Jared Carlson.

01:30:44.000 I got to save my energy with this dude because I got...

01:30:47.000 I'm looking around as I'm rolling at the Shark Tank going, oh my God, these guys are coming after me.

01:30:51.000 So I would just be really conservative.

01:30:54.000 And what that would happen, that would...

01:30:55.000 I train these killers right. 1.00

01:30:56.000 They know how to close the fucking deal. 1.00

01:30:58.000 So anybody pays cautious with you, that's part of the game. 1.00

01:31:01.000 You just keep getting deeper and deeper and deeper and that's what happened.

01:31:04.000 I was just sinking in quicksand with that mentality of trying to conserve and not really attacking because the attack is what puts them on defense and stops their forward march.

01:31:14.000 So you have to constantly, even if you don't have a game plan right now, just disrupt them.

01:31:20.000 So what percentage do you think your game improved because of your cardio bump?

01:31:25.000 A thousand percent.

01:31:26.000 Because now I knew it.

01:31:27.000 Dude, now I knew that I would have thought that in Abu Dhabi, as soon as I started breathing hard, that it was over.

01:31:34.000 Done.

01:31:34.000 I did what I can.

01:31:35.000 Now I'm breathing.

01:31:36.000 I didn't know that you can recover over and over.

01:31:38.000 When the swim sprints, you're reminded over and over.

01:31:40.000 You're dead, and you did another sprint.

01:31:42.000 You're dead. 1.00

01:31:43.000 You did another sprint. 0.99

01:31:44.000 You kept going.

01:31:44.000 You were dead at 10, and you kept going.

01:31:47.000 You kept recovering, and you recover quick.

01:31:49.000 And after...

01:31:50.000 After reminding yourself that you can recover during jiu-jitsu, during those shark times, or you can recover, relax, you can recover instead of panicking, because if you panic and think you can't, now you're at a downward spiral with your cardio.

01:32:00.000 That panic will suck up more.

01:32:02.000 It's going to be harder to recover because you're panicking and you think it's over.

01:32:05.000 But once you get to the point where you know you can recover, you stop telling yourself, oh, I can recover, relax.

01:32:10.000 You just do it.

01:32:11.000 You're huffing and puffing and you're not even worried.

01:32:13.000 There's not even an ounce of panic.

01:32:15.000 You know you're going to come back.

01:32:17.000 And that is what...

01:32:20.000 That performance Saturday night was all about is knowing that I could recover.

01:32:24.000 That was huge.

01:32:25.000 There were times where I didn't want to see him smell blood, and I go, I just need time to recover.

01:32:29.000 I would talk to Jean-Jacques, stop breathing.

01:32:31.000 I'm trying to recover, and I just...

01:32:35.000 Looking over, trying to act like it's nothing.

01:32:37.000 Meanwhile, I just want him to relax.

01:32:39.000 We're not doing it.

01:32:39.000 Just relax.

01:32:40.000 Relax.

01:32:41.000 No need to hush.

01:32:43.000 You know, but those were all mental games.

01:32:45.000 But that was only because I was doing that naturally.

01:32:48.000 It was only because I knew I needed a little time to recover. 0.99

01:32:50.000 I didn't know the professional athlete shit before. 0.98

01:32:53.000 This is like nothing new to professional athletes. 0.98

01:32:55.000 What I'm doing is I'm letting people that aren't professional athletes and never done cardio, this is what you discover.

01:33:02.000 This is why cardio is so important.

01:33:04.000 Is understanding how your body can recover.

01:33:21.000 The ability to recover and knowing that you can recover and having faith in your body, you never panic.

01:33:29.000 You just keep going.

01:33:30.000 You just know, this ain't nothing.

01:33:31.000 I'm just going to chill here.

01:33:32.000 Oh, there it's back.

01:33:35.000 Now I got power.

01:33:36.000 Now you can throw a combination.

01:33:38.000 And then you wait for that green light.

01:33:40.000 You know who used to do a lot of swimming?

01:33:42.000 Maury Smith.

01:33:44.000 Remember Maurice Smith?

01:33:45.000 Yeah.

01:33:45.000 He used to do a lot of swimming.

01:33:47.000 Maurice was a UFC heavyweight champion.

01:33:48.000 He was a champion kickboxer.

01:33:51.000 He fought in extreme fighting.

01:33:52.000 Remember?

01:33:53.000 He was like one of the first guys to ever win by head kick.

01:33:55.000 I could barely walk after this.

01:33:58.000 I was done with 20. I got out of the pool and the main thing is at the very end, you gotta walk.

01:34:02.000 You gotta keep your body moving.

01:34:04.000 So I would walk around the pool.

01:34:05.000 Why do you have to walk?

01:34:07.000 It's good to walk when you're super tired so your body gets used to moving while it's recovering.

01:34:11.000 Yeah, why is it bad to just lie down?

01:34:13.000 I've heard it's bad to lie down.

01:34:14.000 Yeah, because then your body gets used to having to have everything shut down to recover.

01:34:19.000 You want to be able to recover and still be on 30%, you know what I mean?

01:34:24.000 Right.

01:34:24.000 It's probably better to recover, jog a little bit.

01:34:27.000 Right.

01:34:27.000 And then cool down, you know what I mean?

01:34:29.000 And they get to the point now where you're recovering and you never stop jogging.

01:34:32.000 That's probably the best, I'm just guessing.

01:34:34.000 But for sure, when you can barely walk and you're dead in time, to try to walk and to try to keep going, that's the very least you can do.

01:34:41.000 Right.

01:34:41.000 For sure, lying down is not the...

01:34:43.000 Because Jean-Jacques never let me lie down.

01:34:45.000 Get up and keep walking.

01:34:45.000 You want to recover?

01:34:46.000 Because when I would get to that point in the beginning, I would walk around.

01:34:49.000 I'm walking around Jean-Jacques.

01:34:50.000 I could barely walk.

01:34:51.000 Keep walking.

01:34:52.000 You got to keep the body moving. 0.98

01:34:53.000 So it's all basic shit that I'm sure people know.

01:34:56.000 But for the people that have never dove into competing or doing cardio, I'm telling you, I'm 43 years old and I'm just discovering the magical powers of mastering your body and knowing how fast it can recover. 0.87

01:35:10.000 When you have that kind of confidence, That's what that performance was all about, trusting my cardio.

01:35:16.000 And I was able to do...

01:35:17.000 Well, it's about putting in the work.

01:35:18.000 You just put in a tremendous amount of work.

01:35:20.000 Two months worth of work.

01:35:21.000 The cardio work along with all the jiu-jitsu shark tanks and all the training and sparring and rolling constantly.

01:35:27.000 Spent a lot of time with leg lock defense.

01:35:31.000 A lot of time.

01:35:33.000 Wow.

01:35:34.000 And there was guys out there...

01:35:35.000 I was getting help from so many guys out there.

01:35:37.000 Max Bishop...

01:35:38.000 Catch Rustler out in, I think he's in Alabama or somewhere out there.

01:35:44.000 I know him through Alan Belcher.

01:35:47.000 He helped him with Pelharas?

01:35:50.000 A lot of guys helped Alan Belcher with Paul Harris.

01:35:53.000 Alan Belcher's DVD Immunity, that helped me a lot.

01:35:57.000 I'm on a defensive mission now.

01:36:00.000 I'm on a mission to structurize and just get all the best defense from everybody.

01:36:06.000 And most of it is from Jean-Jacques, because Jean-Jacques defensively is probably one of the best ever.

01:36:11.000 His defense is legendary.

01:36:13.000 And so I'm just, one by one, every position, Figuring out what are the absolute best defensive things to do?

01:36:21.000 Where should your hands be?

01:36:23.000 Where should your legs be?

01:36:25.000 And when it comes to defense, it's amazing because it's almost a hundred times more complex than offense.

01:36:30.000 There's so much to defense because there's only a few ways to build a skyscraper, you know, to build it right. 0.99

01:36:37.000 There's rules, but there's a million ways to knock that motherfucker down. 1.00

01:36:43.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

01:36:43.000 There's so many ways that disrupt it. 0.99

01:36:45.000 It's so many different levels.

01:36:46.000 You could come up with all these different angles. 0.99

01:36:48.000 So many missiles and demos and all that shit. 0.99

01:36:52.000 You know what I mean? 0.97

01:36:52.000 The same thing with techniques and triangles. 0.97

01:36:56.000 The setup.

01:36:57.000 There's so many steps to the setup.

01:36:59.000 There's so many different places along the way where you could disrupt that, nip it in the bud at different levels.

01:37:04.000 And then at the end, the one thing I've learned is all these top guys, Alan Belcher, Max Bishop, Eric Paulson, Gokar, Cevici, and I was gonna work with them, I just never got around with it, but I did work with Karin Derabidian from Hayastan. 0.97

01:37:20.000 He came down to a shark tank and just fucking wrecked my legs, man. 0.90

01:37:24.000 Karin Derabidian's a beast, man. 1.00

01:37:26.000 It's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:37:27.000 Ugh, yeah. 1.00

01:37:28.000 So, Dean Lister, we were texting back and forth.

01:37:33.000 I was texting people videos and stuff.

01:37:35.000 All my leg lock master friends, like Eric Paulson and Dean Lister and Manny Gamperian and all these guys getting their advice.

01:37:42.000 Everyone has a different way of escaping 50-50. 0.80

01:37:46.000 Everyone has a different way of addressing a straight ankle lock. 0.99

01:37:50.000 There's so many different ways to fuck up. 0.99

01:37:53.000 Perfection. 0.99

01:37:54.000 A perfect submission.

01:37:55.000 So many different ways.

01:37:56.000 And it's fascinating that there's way more defense than there is offense.

01:38:03.000 And all these different things to learn.

01:38:05.000 And then what I'm doing is I'm so fascinated with this.

01:38:08.000 It's just...

01:38:10.000 I'm on a quest to make 10th Planet known for their defense.

01:38:16.000 And it's fun.

01:38:17.000 It's like a new thing.

01:38:17.000 I'm so obsessed with it, man.

01:38:19.000 I'm watching defensive videos all the time, just trying to come up with the ultimate defense.

01:38:23.000 And what it does is not only is it making Tenth Planet's stronger as an association, but it's making my game stronger.

01:38:29.000 Why wouldn't I want to have amazing defense?

01:38:32.000 I've always been focused on no-gi offense. 0.90

01:38:35.000 That's always been the problem in MMA. That's what I was trying to fix.

01:38:38.000 That's what Tenth Planet was all about.

01:38:40.000 What are the problems in MMA? The problems are bottom game.

01:38:42.000 So we're going to be bottom game heavy, we're going to be no-gi heavy, and we're going to have strikes in the mix. 0.94

01:38:47.000 That's the problem with jiu-jitsu.

01:38:48.000 The problem isn't that Jiu-Jitsu guys are tapping in the UFC. All these black belts are tapping. 1.00

01:38:54.000 We need to fix the defense. 0.96

01:38:55.000 Nobody was tapping these black belts. 1.00

01:38:57.000 They just were getting beat on their back. 0.97

01:38:59.000 That was the problem.

01:39:00.000 Our defense is fine.

01:39:02.000 You keep working on the defense over there, Gracie Baja. 1.00

01:39:04.000 We're going to try to fix the problem.

01:39:06.000 There's an emergency.

01:39:07.000 Jiu-Jitsu is, we need some urgent care here.

01:39:10.000 We need some scientists on the case, and all my students, all my moon heads, my head instructors, they're all my A&R agents, they're all my science. 0.97

01:39:18.000 We need to fix this motherfucking problem for Jiu-Jitsu. 0.92

01:39:20.000 Keep working on your passing from standing, which is not a problem in MMA. It's like, man, they can't pass standing. 0.98

01:39:28.000 The problem is they're not doing much off their back offensively, and that's what we're trying to do.

01:39:34.000 We're trying to fix that problem.

01:39:36.000 And It's a fascinating thing to watch.

01:39:41.000 Watch you put together this whole system and other guys inside your system.

01:39:46.000 Watch them add moves and build it all and figure it all out and watch it evolve.

01:39:53.000 It's always been interesting too when I get injured and then come back.

01:39:56.000 Get injured, take a few months off, come back and say, oh no, we're not even doing that anymore.

01:40:00.000 We found a new path.

01:40:01.000 There's all these new paths that come up or a new way to get around something and this cuts to the chase and this is quicker.

01:40:07.000 Someone once made the analogy of jiu-jitsu to chess, and most people love that analogy, but you rejected it immediately.

01:40:18.000 I said jiu-jitsu makes chess look like checkers.

01:40:21.000 Yeah, it does.

01:40:23.000 And there's also so many different things involved too, not just the moves, but also the amount of discipline that you have to have to get your body into position to play the game.

01:40:33.000 I mean, you have to.

01:40:34.000 Like, what you're talking about, what you did, I mean, there's not a lot of people that have that kind of willpower to force themselves to do those fucking crazy sprints, to force themselves to do the shark tanks, to force themselves to train, and when you can barely walk and you feel like you have a heart attack, not everybody has that in them, to push themselves that way.

01:40:50.000 So, it's not just more complex in its variations and the attacks and the counters and defense, but it's also much more complex mentally and emotionally.

01:40:59.000 It requires more of you.

01:41:02.000 But I gotta imagine, man, that when you put it all together, what was that feeling like?

01:41:08.000 What was it feeling like when it was over?

01:41:09.000 Look, Hoyler didn't tap, but you dominated that match. 1.00

01:41:14.000 There's just no doubt about it.

01:41:15.000 And even more so in light of what you're saying about how the reversals were just you adjusting and then you getting back to that position again.

01:41:22.000 Yeah, that's how I roll.

01:41:25.000 It's just, it's incredible.

01:41:27.000 It's amazing.

01:41:28.000 What did it feel like?

01:41:29.000 What did it feel like when it was all over?

01:41:33.000 Before Hoist Gracie got mad at you. 1.00

01:41:36.000 Yeah.

01:41:37.000 What did it feel like?

01:41:38.000 He's so mad at me.

01:41:39.000 I don't know why. 0.99

01:41:40.000 He thinks you were talking shit about his family and about Hoist. 0.99

01:41:43.000 Someone lied to him. 1.00

01:41:45.000 Someone lied to him because someone went up to Hoist and told, and I want to find out who the hell this is, someone told Hoist that I talk shit on the family. 0.99

01:41:54.000 Maybe he believes that he shouldn't believe it, but he came up to me. 0.64

01:41:58.000 But before that, I've got to read you this really quick.

01:42:03.000 While you're looking for it.

01:42:05.000 I found this.

01:42:06.000 In my first book, Jiu Jitsu Unleashed, it came out in 2005. This was 2005. Two years after you tapped Hoyler.

01:42:15.000 This was how I opened the book with.

01:42:19.000 A very special thanks goes out to the Gracie family.

01:42:23.000 Though we have different views on the gi, I do appreciate tremendously what you did for the world of martial arts and my world.

01:42:31.000 Thank you, Helio, for being the warrior and innovator that you are.

01:42:35.000 Who has tougher sons than you?

01:42:37.000 No one.

01:42:37.000 Thank you, Carlos Singer, for taking in the Machados as sons of your own and introducing them to the fascinating world of jiu-jitsu.

01:42:45.000 Thank you, Horion, for producing the UFC. Without you, The MMA industry would not exist, and I would still be DJing in clubs.

01:42:54.000 Thank you, Hoyce, for having the courage to step up and fight in 8- and 16-man tournaments just to prove the effectiveness of jiu-jitsu.

01:43:03.000 You will always be a legend.

01:43:04.000 Thank you, Hickson, for being the Superman of the jiu-jitsu world.

01:43:08.000 There is no one I would rather see in the ring than you.

01:43:11.000 And thank you, Hoyler, for being you.

01:43:14.000 Without you and your unbelievable accomplishments in the grappling world, this book would not exist.

01:43:19.000 That was 2005. And after Metamora Saturday night, I was emotional.

01:43:25.000 I was crying.

01:43:25.000 I just went 20 minutes.

01:43:27.000 It was just...

01:43:29.000 Man, I can't tell you.

01:43:31.000 It was like...

01:43:31.000 I don't know, man.

01:43:33.000 It was just glorious.

01:43:34.000 And...

01:43:36.000 I got on the mic, and what I just read, I just said that again.

01:43:41.000 I said the same thing again on the mic.

01:43:42.000 I just wanted to let everybody know we all come from the Gracies. 0.97

01:43:45.000 We're all Gracies.

01:43:46.000 It's not Tenth Planet against the Gracies.

01:43:48.000 We're doing this for Jiu Jitsu.

01:43:50.000 The Tenth Planet thing is to help Jiu Jitsu. 0.99

01:43:51.000 They don't want to hear that shit, though, because people don't want to hear that anybody is... 0.99

01:43:55.000 Their idea is that, no, we don't need your help. 1.00

01:43:59.000 Their idea is, look, we're doing this, and you're doing something different, and your stuff sucks. 1.00

01:44:04.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:44:05.000 Yeah, man. 1.00

01:44:06.000 So then I get off stage, hug my wife, hug my mom.

01:44:11.000 I mean, when I say they're saying that, like, I mean, I'm being...

01:44:15.000 They're not really saying that.

01:44:17.000 No one's really saying that.

01:44:18.000 But there's...

01:44:19.000 No one wants to hear that you're...

01:44:21.000 You know, they have pride.

01:44:23.000 No one wants to hear that you're, like, you're trying to fix jujitsu, you know?

01:44:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:44:28.000 That attitude is...

01:44:29.000 There was an element to the Brazilian jujitsu community that had...

01:44:32.000 That ignored me.

01:44:34.000 Let's just say that.

01:44:34.000 They just...

01:44:35.000 Well, let's be honest, though.

01:44:37.000 I mean, it's kind of a tricky situation because no one has more faith in you than I do.

01:44:44.000 No one believes.

01:44:46.000 You're just a unique dude. 0.97

01:44:48.000 You can figure shit out. 0.98

01:44:49.000 You have a mind for games and you have a mind for strategy. 0.99

01:44:53.000 I mean, you just...

01:44:55.000 And you're really ridiculously talented in Jiu Jitsu.

01:44:58.000 Creativity aside and all the other things aside.

01:45:01.000 But people who didn't know you, they saw this one match and then after that match they saw you fight Leo Vieira, Leo Vieira, Basically dominated you on points.

01:45:11.000 You hurt your rib really early in the match.

01:45:14.000 Like halfway through.

01:45:15.000 He would have still beat me anyways.

01:45:17.000 What I was going to say is that it was after this incredible emotional fight.

01:45:23.000 You beat a legend and then you lost to another legend.

01:45:26.000 You got dominated by another legend.

01:45:28.000 So in their mind, they didn't take anything into account.

01:45:30.000 They didn't take into account what a crazy experience it must have been for some kid to be the first American to ever tap at Gracie in a jiu-jitsu competition.

01:45:37.000 I mean, it was bananas.

01:45:39.000 The whole thing was bananas.

01:45:40.000 You were crying.

01:45:40.000 I was crying.

01:45:41.000 We were freaking out.

01:45:42.000 And then all of a sudden, boom, you got to fight again.

01:45:45.000 Now you're fighting Leo Vieira. 0.99

01:45:46.000 It's like, holy shit. 0.97

01:45:47.000 Like, your whole thought process was around fighting Hoyler Gracie. 0.99

01:45:52.000 Like, I remember leading up to it, you just kept talking about, dude, Hoyler's in my division.

01:45:56.000 I might fight Hoyler.

01:45:57.000 I might have to fight Hoyler.

01:45:58.000 All the time when you're training, Hoiler, Hoiler, that name kept coming up over and over and over and over and over.

01:46:02.000 So when it did happen, and then boom, and you won, much like when you were throwing up on Saturday night after the event is over, like this is gigantic.

01:46:13.000 Dump and release.

01:46:15.000 So after all that, I went outside the tent.

01:46:17.000 And I have this...

01:46:18.000 The Tough Med, they're my sponsors.

01:46:20.000 They have this film crew following me for this documentary they're putting together.

01:46:24.000 And they're following me.

01:46:25.000 I just needed a place to throw up.

01:46:27.000 I ran out of the place.

01:46:28.000 Got on my knees and was just like throwing.

01:46:30.000 And then Renato Magno comes from behind and pours water on me.

01:46:34.000 Jean Jacques, everyone's following me.

01:46:36.000 I thought it was funny because I actually thought...

01:46:39.000 Anyways.

01:46:43.000 I'm throwing up and then I hear this voice behind me that said...

01:46:48.000 It's good you say that about my family.

01:46:50.000 And I wipe the throw up from my mouth.

01:46:53.000 I look behind me and it's Hoist Gracie.

01:46:56.000 And when someone says that to you, that could be followed with a hug or a shake.

01:47:04.000 Like, it's good that you said that about my family.

01:47:07.000 Right, right, right.

01:47:08.000 We're good now.

01:47:09.000 Right.

01:47:09.000 Like, what's next?

01:47:10.000 Is it going to be a pound, a hand?

01:47:12.000 Or it could be something else. 0.99

01:47:13.000 Like, because you were always talking shit on my family before. 0.99

01:47:18.000 And I'm like, what? 0.99

01:47:19.000 So that's what he said?

01:47:21.000 Yeah.

01:47:21.000 He said it was like the craziest backhanded compliment ever.

01:47:25.000 He said, it's good that you said that about my family.

01:47:29.000 And I turn around and I'm like, wow.

01:47:31.000 Hoist Gracie, man. 1.00

01:47:33.000 That's Hoist Gracie. 1.00

01:47:34.000 That's like Mike Tyson.

01:47:37.000 This is the first time you're meeting him?

01:47:40.000 First time ever talking to him.

01:47:42.000 I think.

01:47:43.000 But I've seen him in different places and we've been in the same events and stuff.

01:47:47.000 But, um...

01:47:49.000 He, uh...

01:47:51.000 He, uh... 0.99

01:47:55.000 Goes, it's good that you said that about my family because you used to talk shit on my family. 1.00

01:47:59.000 And I said, I never talked shit on your family. 0.99

01:48:01.000 In my first book, I thanked all of you, including you. 0.98

01:48:03.000 And I'm like kind of pointing at him.

01:48:05.000 I'm like, Hoyler, Helio.

01:48:07.000 I'm telling him, whatever someone told you about me, they're lying.

01:48:10.000 I've never said it. 1.00

01:48:12.000 Only a retard would talk shit about the Gracies. 1.00

01:48:15.000 It's in the jujitsu business. 1.00

01:48:17.000 You're in the jujitsu business and you have no respect for the Gracies and what they've done. 1.00

01:48:21.000 Just physically what they've done.

01:48:22.000 So what did he say then?

01:48:24.000 Don't put your finger at me. 1.00

01:48:26.000 And then he got on my face like he wanted to kick my ass. 0.99

01:48:27.000 And Jean-Jacques had to get between us to stop him from getting in my face. 0.99

01:48:32.000 Because he thought, now I'm disrespecting him because I'm kind of pointing at him.

01:48:36.000 He thought I was...

01:48:37.000 But look what he said.

01:48:39.000 This is the craziest thing of all.

01:48:41.000 Look what he said.

01:48:42.000 Let me just quote him.

01:48:44.000 Dude.

01:48:46.000 I don't know what fight he was watching.

01:48:48.000 I saw what he said.

01:48:50.000 I'll paraphrase if you want.

01:48:51.000 No, no, it's right here.

01:48:52.000 I got it right here.

01:48:52.000 He said, I wanted to talk to him for years but never had the chance to meet him, Hoist told MMA Fighting.

01:49:00.000 I met him after the fight and he was there throwing up.

01:49:04.000 Hoyler dominated him so much, he did so much strength, but he threw up after the fight.

01:49:16.000 Right?

01:49:17.000 How crazy. 0.87

01:49:18.000 I told him that I liked what he said after the fight, but didn't like the fact that he was always talking trash about Hoyler and my family.

01:49:26.000 He stood up and started yelling.

01:49:28.000 So I also raised the tone of my voice and told him I didn't like it.

01:49:31.000 He said he always gave my family credit, but I know it's not true.

01:49:36.000 He said he always gave my family credit, but I know it's not true. 0.85

01:49:40.000 He always seems, he always talks trash about my family. 1.00

01:49:44.000 Enough with this shit. 1.00

01:49:45.000 He said he never talked bad about my family and he always gave us credit. 1.00

01:49:49.000 He kept raising the tone of his voice. 0.94

01:49:51.000 I told him to shut up.

01:49:52.000 So Jean-Jacques Machado came in and we didn't need this and asked Bravo to leave.

01:49:58.000 Wow.

01:49:59.000 And then he goes, Gracie said he would not compete against Bravo in a grappling match, but seemed open to an MMA fight.

01:50:07.000 Can we slap each other?

01:50:08.000 Can we beat each other up? 0.65

01:50:09.000 Or can we beat each other?

01:50:11.000 Gracie replied to laugh when asked if he'd accept a fight at Meadow Morris.

01:50:15.000 I'm a valetudo fighter.

01:50:17.000 I'm not to score points of fight with time limit.

01:50:21.000 Let's fight with no time limit with punches allowed.

01:50:23.000 I'm a valetudo fighter.

01:50:25.000 I don't compete in grappling tournaments.

01:50:27.000 He's only competed grappling-wise.

01:50:30.000 See that one Waleed-Ismail fight, right?

01:50:31.000 Yeah, when Waleed strangled him.

01:50:34.000 Yeah, Waleed put him to sleep.

01:50:35.000 Those are after the UFC. Yeah.

01:50:37.000 So, I mean, after all that stuff I read you that was in my book, and then you hear, like, someone's lying to him.

01:50:43.000 Someone's lying to him, most likely.

01:50:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:50:45.000 I mean, you know, people talk shit, and people want to be friends with him, so they probably talk shit to him. 1.00

01:50:50.000 He's never talked to you before, so he's never heard you say it. 0.99

01:50:53.000 You definitely haven't said it in print anywhere.

01:50:55.000 He definitely has never said it in video, because I know you haven't said it.

01:50:58.000 You were always remarkably composed about that.

01:51:01.000 You were always remarkably composed.

01:51:04.000 The worst you ever did was ask to do it again.

01:51:09.000 That was a few years back, you asked to do it again.

01:51:12.000 But you were never disrespectful about it.

01:51:13.000 Yeah, I thought most people in the late 90s, most small jujitsu players in the late 90s, their dream was to go against Hoyler.

01:51:22.000 He was the best.

01:51:23.000 Hoyler, that was the pinnacle.

01:51:24.000 Not only is he the best, but he's the son of Helio Gracie.

01:51:28.000 That's like the prince. 0.97

01:51:30.000 At 145, damn, that was the one. 0.98

01:51:33.000 That was the 145 Hickson. 0.98

01:51:35.000 So I got lucky enough to go against him once.

01:51:39.000 Man, I have a reason to do it twice.

01:51:41.000 Whether it's like the proof that it wasn't a fluke or that it was a fluke.

01:51:46.000 Whatever.

01:51:46.000 It was lucky.

01:51:47.000 Whatever you want to say. 0.99

01:51:49.000 But I thought, damn, I can make this happen. 0.98

01:51:52.000 I have a reason to make it happen. 0.88

01:51:54.000 Do you want to keep doing this?

01:51:55.000 Do you want to keep competing now?

01:51:57.000 If the money's right, but that's one thing I don't even want to get into.

01:52:02.000 The last thing I want to do is stress about my next opponent or a trilogy with them, which I'll be open to it.

01:52:11.000 I just don't want to talk and call people out and what are you going to do with this and what are you going to do with that.

01:52:16.000 I want no stress right now.

01:52:18.000 That's what I want.

01:52:19.000 I want to spend time with my family, spend time with my students, have fun.

01:52:25.000 Enjoy my life right now.

01:52:26.000 As soon as there's another opponent looming, now I've got to study.

01:52:30.000 I don't want to think about anything.

01:52:33.000 I just want to have fun.

01:52:34.000 I think Matt Morris has real potential, man.

01:52:36.000 I really do.

01:52:37.000 I think there's something they can do.

01:52:39.000 I think there's something they can do if they keep putting on these matchups like this. 0.98

01:52:44.000 When people saw that match between you guys Saturday night, that was exciting as fuck. 0.97

01:52:48.000 That was really, really exciting. 0.59

01:52:50.000 And if they have more matches like that, more really good, high-level, exciting matches, you get to see real good technical jiu-jitsu, I think people start to really enjoy it.

01:53:01.000 And the other thing about jujitsu as opposed to MMA is if it's especially no gi, I see no reason why that can't eventually be on television. 0.98

01:53:12.000 You know, when I look at, like, watch a Marcello Garcia match or watch when Jacare was fighting in Abu Dhabi or any of the really high-level guys that compete in Abu Dhabi, they're fucking murderers. 0.98

01:53:25.000 Vinny Magalese. 0.98

01:53:26.000 These guys are exciting to watch, man.

01:53:28.000 They pull off wild techniques.

01:53:29.000 Crone Gracie.

01:53:30.000 Pulls off, you know, it's fun to watch them strangle people.

01:53:33.000 Especially submission only. 1.00

01:53:34.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:53:35.000 You know Master Vic, Vic Davila, the Spanish Joe Rogan? 1.00

01:53:38.000 I love that dude.

01:53:38.000 Me and him are actually, our first show is June 1st.

01:53:42.000 You're going to put on a grappling show?

01:53:44.000 It's going to be on Spanish TV. It's done.

01:53:45.000 Oh shit. 0.98

01:53:46.000 It's called Eddie Bravo Invitational, and it's gonna be two 16-man submission-only tournaments, 145 same-day weigh-in, 170 same-day weigh-in, and since it's for Spanish television, we're gonna focus on white people, too, and black people, but... 0.98

01:54:02.000 We're gonna the spotlight's gonna be on the Latin fighters and and the two Latin fighters the one we're gonna that's already in is Gio Martinez he's one of my black belts amazing he's a break dancer who's yeah killing people yeah he's gonna do the 145 he's gonna be the feature star and he speaks Spanish and all that and his brother Richie Boogeyman Martinez,

01:54:23.000 who's also awesome.

01:54:25.000 Awesome.

01:54:25.000 He's a brown battle guy.

01:54:27.000 He's doing MMA. He's ferocious.

01:54:29.000 Talk about Spartan.

01:54:30.000 Both those guys are true Spartans.

01:54:32.000 They're on a quest.

01:54:33.000 They both have crazy dexterity, too.

01:54:35.000 Yes, they're super flexible break dancers, amazing at jiu-jitsu, and they're tearing it up right now.

01:54:40.000 And he's going to be the feature at the 170. It's going to be at the Florentine Gardens Sunday, June 1st.

01:54:47.000 Where's the Florentine Gardens?

01:54:48.000 It's in Hollywood.

01:54:49.000 It's in Hollywood.

01:54:50.000 Sunday, June 1st?

01:54:51.000 Sunday, June 1st in Hollywood.

01:54:54.000 We're taping it for TV. So it's...

01:54:58.000 But obviously we want to pack the place too.

01:55:01.000 And afterwards, as soon as we finish taping those two 60-man brackets, we're going to have 10th Planet Anniversary party there too.

01:55:07.000 It's a giant club.

01:55:08.000 It's awesome.

01:55:10.000 It's a big venue.

01:55:11.000 I'm home.

01:55:12.000 And we have...

01:55:15.000 That would be awesome.

01:55:15.000 And we have schools competing against each other.

01:55:17.000 We got Cabrina's best guy.

01:55:20.000 They say that they're going to give us their best guy.

01:55:25.000 They haven't confirmed anybody yet, but they've all agreed that they're going to send their best guy.

01:55:30.000 Fabrizio Verdum's school, his best guy.

01:55:33.000 Javi Vasquez, his best guy.

01:55:37.000 We want the best guys.

01:55:40.000 Submission only, 16-man tournament with overtime rounds.

01:55:44.000 Let me ask you this.

01:55:45.000 That's what I was going to ask you.

01:55:47.000 What happens in a situation like these...

01:55:51.000 Everyone's going for submission only, but there's no submission, so it's a draw.

01:55:56.000 And fights that just clearly aren't draws.

01:55:58.000 What do you do?

01:55:59.000 You can do two things.

01:56:00.000 Gracie Nationals and Gracie Worlds, if you're in a 16-man bracket...

01:56:05.000 If you're both disqualified, so the brackets end up being different.

01:56:09.000 After every qualifier or the first bracket, you see who makes it.

01:56:16.000 There's going to be some guys that both got eliminated, so you have to restructure it.

01:56:21.000 But you can do it, and it works great.

01:56:23.000 So if you get to a draw, both guys are eliminated?

01:56:26.000 If it's the finals, it's no time limit.

01:56:28.000 Oh my god.

01:56:29.000 Yeah, so Gracie Nationals and Gracie Worlds, those are the most hard, that's the hardest tournament to win.

01:56:35.000 The hardest tournament.

01:56:37.000 What a great idea.

01:56:38.000 Yeah, it's all about submission.

01:56:40.000 But EBI, which is what we're calling Andy Bravo Invitation, we're going to have EBI Women, EBI Kids, EBI... Grand Prix. 0.99

01:56:49.000 So who organized the Gracie Nationals?

01:56:51.000 Is that Rose?

01:56:52.000 Rose Gracie.

01:56:52.000 So she figured that out?

01:56:54.000 That's a brilliant way of handling it.

01:56:56.000 Those are the best tournaments.

01:56:58.000 And this year Gracie Worlds is going to be in Las Vegas at the Cox Pavilion.

01:57:03.000 It's blowing up, dude.

01:57:04.000 Submission only is taking over.

01:57:07.000 When is it?

01:57:09.000 Gracie World.

01:57:10.000 Ooh, it's like a September 21st or something. 1.00

01:57:15.000 Damn it. 0.99

01:57:15.000 Go to gracietournaments.com. 0.99

01:57:18.000 Gracietournaments.com.

01:57:19.000 It's sometime in December.

01:57:20.000 I think it's the 20th and the 21st of December.

01:57:23.000 I'm pretty sure, or September, I'm sorry, of September in Vegas, Gracie Worlds, submission-only worlds, dude, submission-only worlds, you know?

01:57:32.000 So we're doing the same thing, though, but we're not doing it.

01:57:34.000 It's an invitational.

01:57:35.000 We're going to pick 16 guys, and 16 guys on one side, 16 guys on the other side, Also, the other 10th Planet representative at 170 is going to be Nathan Orchard, who's one of my assassins.

01:57:47.000 He's a white guy, but we're accepting white guys too.

01:57:50.000 He's going to be at 170 too.

01:57:52.000 So we're taking advantage of Victor's connections in the Spanish TV market, which are...

01:57:58.000 With Jorge's producing this as well.

01:58:00.000 Oh, beautiful.

01:58:01.000 Jorge's involved.

01:58:02.000 I love Jorge.

01:58:03.000 Yeah, man.

01:58:04.000 So we're doing it, man.

01:58:06.000 That's awesome.

01:58:06.000 At first we wanted to do it and do this and give $100,000 to the winner just to ensure if there's a $100,000 prize and those guys...

01:58:15.000 What do we got to do to make sure these matches are as exciting as possible?

01:58:19.000 You got to have some serious cash incentives.

01:58:22.000 So that's what we wanted to do.

01:58:23.000 We wanted to do the first one.

01:58:24.000 We were planning on doing this.

01:58:25.000 We had some investors.

01:58:26.000 We had a few of them.

01:58:27.000 It's very hard for people to invest on a first show.

01:58:30.000 So we decided to do the first one.

01:58:32.000 No money.

01:58:33.000 We're just going to do it for TV and just to get it going.

01:58:35.000 And then hopefully we attract sponsors.

01:58:37.000 But ultimately, it's for TV. To make it work for TV. To ensure that guys don't stall.

01:58:44.000 That there's no reason to stall.

01:58:45.000 You have to have...

01:58:48.000 Incentives, all these different incentives that there's no reason for you to slow down.

01:58:54.000 Slowing down is not helping you financially.

01:58:56.000 The training is going to be different for these kind of tournaments.

01:58:59.000 Instead of training for just get really heavy on the passing and the sweep and points tournaments, all you do is train sweeps and passes.

01:59:06.000 That's it.

01:59:07.000 Submissions, that's extra.

01:59:08.000 You're wasting your time.

01:59:10.000 You want to win a tournament?

01:59:11.000 You spend all your time sweeping and passing.

01:59:13.000 That's how you win tournaments.

01:59:14.000 Because you want points.

01:59:15.000 Yeah, because that's how you win.

01:59:16.000 But if it's a submission-only tournament, you still work on your sweep and passing, but you've got to be heavy on the submission setups because that's how you're going to close the deal.

01:59:23.000 That's how you're going to make your money.

01:59:24.000 So that's the plan.

01:59:26.000 June 1st, contact MasterVic at...

01:59:31.000 EddieBravoInvitational.com if you think you're a badass.

01:59:35.000 We want the best possible competitors.

01:59:37.000 The best.

01:59:37.000 We'll pump it up before you actually hold the event when it's about to happen.

01:59:42.000 Cool.

01:59:42.000 I'll have you in here again.

01:59:43.000 What was I going to ask?

01:59:46.000 When you come off something like MetaMorris, huge success.

01:59:50.000 Everybody was talking about it all over the mixed martial arts world, jiu-jitsu world.

01:59:54.000 It really made a big splash.

01:59:56.000 Why not do another event on the internet?

01:59:58.000 Why not do your own event on the internet?

02:00:00.000 Exactly. 0.97

02:00:00.000 Why fuck around with a television show? 0.97

02:00:02.000 Exactly. 0.96

02:00:03.000 MetaMorris, for pay-per-view numbers, everyone knows what good pay-per-view numbers are for the UFC and what bad numbers.

02:00:09.000 The official numbers come out and go, oh shit, UFC 3 had 500 pay-per-views or whatever.

02:00:15.000 And 500,000. 0.96

02:00:17.000 For jiu-jitsu, pay-per-view isn't huge.

02:00:21.000 Jiu-jitsu is like underground.

02:00:22.000 So if you get like 5,000 pay-per-views on internet, that's pretty good.

02:00:27.000 So the biggest show, Metamorist, it was 9,000 pay-per-views.

02:00:31.000 And that was pretty good.

02:00:31.000 I think it was the first one where Haja Gracie fought Bushesha.

02:00:34.000 This one, with all the promotion you did and the hype and all this shit...

02:00:39.000 I'm thinking if they did 9k before, they're at least 20. It could be even crazier than that. 0.94

02:00:44.000 This one could be 50. I don't know, but you think about at least 20, right?

02:00:49.000 When do they know?

02:00:49.000 I don't know.

02:00:50.000 Do they tell you?

02:00:51.000 No, I don't know.

02:00:52.000 I don't know if they tell you.

02:00:54.000 I don't know how it gets out.

02:00:55.000 Well, my thought on it was that if I, like an RFA, which puts on some great fights, you know, RFA, you know, there's always some good matchups.

02:01:05.000 You never hear about it.

02:01:06.000 An event goes by and you have to search the underground to find results.

02:01:12.000 It's not on the front page.

02:01:13.000 But if you go to mixedmartialarts.com, boom!

02:01:16.000 Mixedmartialarts.com, you hit news.

02:01:17.000 The very first picture is Bravo Dominates Gracie and Metamorris 3. And it's your picture doing this.

02:01:25.000 That never happens in a grappling match.

02:01:28.000 A grappling-only match is the number one thing on mixedmartialarts.com.

02:01:33.000 That's crazy.

02:01:34.000 That's crazy.

02:01:34.000 Ariel Helwani had me on, and he's all about MMA, doesn't even like jiu-jitsu.

02:01:37.000 And he said, I don't even like watching jiu-jitsu.

02:01:40.000 I don't like it.

02:01:41.000 But he said he was thoroughly entertained enough to want me on a show, so I just did his earlier.

02:01:48.000 Why doesn't he like jiu-jitsu?

02:01:50.000 Some guys just like MMA. Well, he doesn't train.

02:01:52.000 If a good pay-per-view number for jiu-jitsu is 9,000, but for the UFC, that'd be disastrous.

02:01:59.000 There's a large percentage of the UFC fan base that is not into jiu-jitsu.

02:02:04.000 It would be interesting if it got to a point where guys would not have to do MMA to make real money.

02:02:11.000 You know, there's a lot of guys, like Jake Shields is a perfect example, has an amazing record in MMA. But a lot of people don't know, Jake Shields, fucking tremendous grappler. 0.90

02:02:19.000 I mean, a tremendous grappler. 0.90

02:02:21.000 There's a video, and this is obviously early in John Fitch's career.

02:02:27.000 You know, John Fitch is much better now.

02:02:28.000 But there's a video of Jake Shields competing in a tournament, a jiu-jitsu tournament with John Fitch. 0.98

02:02:35.000 And he fucking sweeps him, takes his back, chokes him, and you're like, wow. 0.98

02:02:39.000 Like, the way he does it. 1.00

02:02:40.000 Hits the butterfly, sweeps him. 1.00

02:02:42.000 It's like, fucking Jake Shields' jiu-jitsu is solid as fuck, man. 1.00

02:02:46.000 I would love to see a guy like that. 1.00

02:02:48.000 Like, here it is right here.

02:02:50.000 I mean, he doesn't even necessarily have to compete in MMA. Because the thing about a Jake Shields...

02:02:57.000 Like, Jake Shields is... 0.98

02:02:58.000 I mean, he's only lost three times in the past fucking ten years. 0.99

02:03:03.000 One of them was a knockout to Ellenberger right after his dad died. 0.98

02:03:07.000 The other one's a loss to GSP. And then the most recent one, he got dominated by Hector Lombard.

02:03:13.000 And you see him compete with a guy like Hector Lombard, especially in MMA. And you're like, my God, unless he catches that guy in a submission, look at that beautiful sweep.

02:03:25.000 He was working the guillotine and he hit that butterfly sweep.

02:03:27.000 But unless he catches a guy in a submission, unless he can get a hold of a guy, he's going to have a real hard time beating a guy like Hector Lombard. 0.74

02:03:35.000 Like, Lombard moves so fucking fast, man.

02:03:38.000 Yeah, the way to make it work for TV, for all those millions and millions of UFC fans that are bored by jiu-jitsu. 0.71

02:03:45.000 Obviously, that's why there's such a big difference in numbers.

02:03:48.000 You've got to make jiu-jitsu entertaining enough for them.

02:03:53.000 They like the UFC. They will like...

02:03:57.000 Submission only jujitsu.

02:03:58.000 No gi, you can't have the gi. 0.80

02:04:01.000 The UFC fan base is not, even though it's beautiful, all the Burrambolo stuff and tug-of-war on the pants, when they're playing tug-of-war on the pants, that's a beautiful, complex, sophisticated, amazing technique,

02:04:17.000 but the people, it's not good for TV. Right.

02:04:20.000 For TV, it's just not good, man.

02:04:22.000 As a TV producer, they'd go, no.

02:04:24.000 Well, John Jock even said it. 1.00

02:04:25.000 He's like, you know, hey, man, I love Jiu-Jitsu, and this shit puts me to sleep. 1.00

02:04:29.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:04:29.000 It's hard to watch sometimes. 0.99

02:04:31.000 Yeah, if it's going to be for TV, if someone said, we're going to give you one season, and, you know, a TV producer or a network head that doesn't give a shit about tradition, about Jiu-Jitsu, they just want fucking ratings. 0.85

02:04:45.000 For sure, I would say, we're not going to have anything... 0.62

02:04:48.000 That can be described by using the word hold.

02:04:53.000 If there's any kind of hold in anything, we don't want any of the grabbing and yanking.

02:04:58.000 Gotta get rid of the gi. 1.00

02:05:00.000 It can't be a point system.

02:05:02.000 Because think about this.

02:05:04.000 There's still a small percentage of people out there that prefer points over submission only, which is crazy.

02:05:09.000 Now, you have two matches, right?

02:05:11.000 You have two matches.

02:05:13.000 Both matches have a million dollar purse for the winner.

02:05:16.000 Whoever wins gets a million dollars.

02:05:19.000 One is a points match, one is a submission only match.

02:05:22.000 Both of those matches, there's a minute left.

02:05:24.000 In the points match, the guy on top, he just passed the guard.

02:05:28.000 He's up 3-0 and there's a minute left.

02:05:32.000 If you were his coach, the guy on top, there's a million dollars on the line, would you tell him to go for a submission or would you tell him to hold?

02:05:38.000 Tell him to hold. 1.00

02:05:38.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

02:05:39.000 I'd be screaming, hold, motherfucker. 1.00

02:05:41.000 Especially if you were the coach and you got 15% of that shit. 1.00

02:05:44.000 You already spent that shit. 1.00

02:05:46.000 Right. 1.00

02:05:46.000 You already promised your wife a new fucking Toyota. 1.00

02:05:49.000 That was your shit. 1.00

02:05:50.000 You would say, oh, no, no, there's a million dollars on the line. 1.00

02:05:53.000 Oh, don't do a...

02:05:55.000 Submission would be the last thing on your mind.

02:05:57.000 Right.

02:05:57.000 On his mind.

02:05:58.000 Right.

02:05:58.000 Of course.

02:05:59.000 But if it's a submission-only match...

02:06:02.000 That end of the match would look way different.

02:06:04.000 They would both be going nuts for that million dollars.

02:06:07.000 It would look better for TV. It would be more exciting.

02:06:10.000 And it would be ultimately better for Jiu Jitsu.

02:06:13.000 So submission only is better for Jiu Jitsu.

02:06:15.000 It's better for TV. You can't have tug of war of the pants.

02:06:20.000 It's a beautiful thing, but it's going to be a niche thing.

02:06:22.000 It's always going to be underground.

02:06:24.000 That will never be mainstream.

02:06:25.000 What about a standard outfit?

02:06:28.000 I know you like gi pants, but what about if it was only tights only?

02:06:33.000 I think you should do what Abu Dhabi does.

02:06:36.000 ADCC, they figured it out.

02:06:37.000 You let them wear whatever they want.

02:06:39.000 They could wear a gi if they want.

02:06:40.000 But when you're allowed to wear whatever you want, if you could love the gi all you want and worship the gi, but you're not going to wear it. 0.83

02:06:48.000 If you're allowed to, you're not going to give your opponent something to grab onto.

02:06:51.000 In Pride, they would have allowed anybody to wear a gi. 0.97

02:06:55.000 But none of the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belts wore their gi.

02:06:57.000 None of them.

02:06:58.000 They were allowed to.

02:06:59.000 They didn't want anybody to grab them.

02:07:00.000 So what you do is...

02:07:02.000 No, you let them wear whatever they want.

02:07:04.000 Some people like wearing tight booty shorts.

02:07:06.000 Some people like wearing board shorts.

02:07:08.000 Some people like wearing tight spandex shorts to go to the knees.

02:07:11.000 Some guys like short rash guards.

02:07:13.000 Some guys like long rash guards.

02:07:14.000 Some guys compete in Abu Dhabi and they don't wear any rash guards.

02:07:17.000 Well, here's the deal though about Abu Dhabi.

02:07:18.000 If Abu Dhabi, if you're allowed to wear a gi, are you allowed to grab the gi?

02:07:23.000 Apparently, of course.

02:07:25.000 But you can't grab pants.

02:07:26.000 Like, if a guy's wearing shorts, you can't grab shorts.

02:07:28.000 No.

02:07:29.000 You can't wear shorts, but it's a weird thing, man, because if I wore gi pants and he was allowed to grab them, but whatever, you know, it's all good. 0.97

02:07:36.000 I like all that controversy at the end.

02:07:38.000 I like that.

02:07:39.000 The gi, making me wear the gi backfired on them, but it also saved them, because it really, like, all those electric chairs, that was all those gi pants, man. 0.96

02:07:48.000 That gi pants, they were huge. 1.00

02:07:51.000 He never got close of getting out of my lockdown.

02:07:53.000 He never even almost went to quarter guard. 1.00

02:07:56.000 That shit was locked in. 1.00

02:07:58.000 And the pants were a big deal. 1.00

02:08:00.000 A big part of it.

02:08:02.000 That's interesting.

02:08:03.000 It's interesting to think of how much different would the game be if you had to wear tights.

02:08:08.000 Yeah, tights, it would still be hard for him to pull out his leg.

02:08:10.000 And even if I just wore board shorts and knee sleeves, that would be good enough, you know?

02:08:15.000 Which is what you did in the first fight.

02:08:17.000 Yeah, the ankle sleeves are huge, too.

02:08:18.000 You put pants, ankle sleeves.

02:08:20.000 Or if you don't wear pants, you could just wear knee sleeves.

02:08:22.000 That's what I did in the first one.

02:08:23.000 That's why I had the knee sleeves.

02:08:24.000 Just, you don't want...

02:08:26.000 I mean, somewhere, I think in everyone's mind, they think that...

02:08:32.000 That it's not real grappling if it ain't all greasy.

02:08:36.000 It's got to be greasy to be real.

02:08:37.000 And why are you trying to stop all the grease?

02:08:39.000 You're supposed to swap sweat with your opponent.

02:08:44.000 It's like if you wear pants, like, oh, you're cheating.

02:08:49.000 Don't you want to be all slippery with another man?

02:08:52.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:08:53.000 But I mean, don't the pants, you said the pants aid you in a big way.

02:08:56.000 But he could grab them too. 0.99

02:08:59.000 He had an advantage that he can grab them and it saved his ass at the end. 0.98

02:09:03.000 And I had an advantage where with my personal game, my lockdown game, it helps it. 0.89

02:09:08.000 I wonder if listening to all this, if they did decide to do a third one, if you would say, you gotta wear shorts. 0.97

02:09:13.000 Dude, if I did a third one, dude, the first rule is I get to wear whatever the fuck I wanna wear. 0.89

02:09:19.000 That's gonna be rule number one. 0.98

02:09:20.000 I get to wear whatever the fuck I wanna wear. 0.98

02:09:24.000 So that's the first clause. 0.98

02:09:26.000 It seems like promoted correctly, there's obviously a market for this now.

02:09:33.000 And like I said, I committed to helping.

02:09:36.000 I definitely want to help.

02:09:37.000 I think that something like this is something that I get behind.

02:09:41.000 You know what I'm trying to do, dude?

02:09:43.000 I'm not trying to make money with EBI. I'm trying to create the best shit. 0.99

02:09:48.000 Just like you're trying to create with Onnit. 1.00

02:09:49.000 You're trying to do the best shit. 0.97

02:09:51.000 There's not like, ooh, there's a lot of money right here if I create a jiu-jitsu show. 0.99

02:09:55.000 I'm trying to create the best jiu-jitsu show.

02:09:58.000 So I want everyone in the jiu-jitsu community to help...

02:10:01.000 Pitch in and help me out.

02:10:03.000 Help us out.

02:10:03.000 Help out Metamorris.

02:10:04.000 I'm starting EBI, but I still love Metamorris.

02:10:08.000 And even though I'm 100%, I'm not going to be in M4, I still want to go.

02:10:15.000 You say 100%?

02:10:16.000 Well, when is M4? I don't know, but that ain't happening.

02:10:19.000 It's not happening?

02:10:20.000 It's not happening.

02:10:21.000 Taking some time off?

02:10:22.000 Yeah.

02:10:23.000 I'm for sure going to take time off.

02:10:25.000 I don't even want to entertain. 0.99

02:10:25.000 But you think you're going to do your own shit from here on out? 0.99

02:10:28.000 I mean, if you got 20k, we saw what could happen with M3, Metamorphs 3. We saw the potential. 0.99

02:10:37.000 Would you say $20k pay-per-view?

02:10:40.000 That's a lot.

02:10:42.000 I mean, we're just guessing, though.

02:10:43.000 I have no idea what it would be.

02:10:44.000 That's a lot of money.

02:10:45.000 That seems like a lot of people to buy jiu-jitsu.

02:10:48.000 I don't know, though.

02:10:50.000 I'll ask.

02:10:51.000 I don't want to really think about it too much, but when I do decide to sit down and talk numbers, I want to do what's best for the security of my family.

02:11:03.000 If I'm going to get back into training camp, I'm going, you know, and start seeing my son less and my wife less and the stress comes back and I'm training all day and going through all that and swimming and hating the swimming and the torture.

02:11:18.000 If I'm going to go through that, I want what's coming to me.

02:11:22.000 That's it.

02:11:22.000 I just want what's fair.

02:11:23.000 I want to be a dick about it, but I'm not going to get taken advantage of. 0.98

02:11:27.000 So. 0.99

02:11:27.000 Right. 0.99

02:11:28.000 I hear what you're saying.

02:11:29.000 My man knows his value.

02:11:31.000 Yeah.

02:11:32.000 Things have changed.

02:11:33.000 I just want to enjoy life now.

02:11:34.000 And the thing that feels the best about this is...

02:11:40.000 Everybody who's gotten into arguments with people about the legitimacy of the system and the style, the Tenth Planet style, all the arguments that everyone's got into with people and the haters and all that stuff,

02:11:57.000 I think about how...

02:12:00.000 Vindicated they feel and how I gave them a little boom.

02:12:03.000 I can help them personally in their argument.

02:12:06.000 Now when they argue with those same guys, you're like, uh, like the little uh I gave him, like I put in a little uh.

02:12:12.000 That feels really, really good.

02:12:14.000 That feels really, really good.

02:12:15.000 Helped him with a little dig.

02:12:17.000 Yeah, man.

02:12:18.000 You know, the argument.

02:12:20.000 And again, all I ever try to do is make jiu-jitsu better.

02:12:24.000 And the people that are resisting me and there's so many people on the internet who are on a quest to...

02:12:34.000 Who are jiu-jitsu freaks who are on a quest to shut me down and they hope the rubber guard fails and the system fails and it's a fraud.

02:12:42.000 And they're on a mission and...

02:12:45.000 They're generally on...

02:12:47.000 On the Atama Forum, I do frequent the Atama Forum.

02:12:51.000 It's the Gi Forum.

02:12:52.000 Probably the biggest Gi Forum in the world on MixMartialArts.com if you go on the Atama Forum.

02:12:58.000 I would say 75% of the people on there They are generally not fans of mine.

02:13:05.000 So I'm like in there like swimming with the sharks all the time, man. 0.98

02:13:08.000 I'll respond to shit and I read their shit and there's guys that just can't wait for something to happen bad at 10 planet and jump on it. 0.99

02:13:16.000 That's always the case. 1.00

02:13:17.000 That's always the case.

02:13:19.000 There's always going to be haters out there. 1.00

02:13:20.000 That shit is such a waste of energy. 1.00

02:13:21.000 But the crazy thing is I know all these guys and their fake screen names and who knows what they look like and I know who they are. 1.00

02:13:27.000 It's like the same guys.

02:13:28.000 When I, after the fight, I, uh, Went to my hotel, took a shower, and I'm just sitting there for five minutes, and I looked on the underground, and I couldn't believe the headline.

02:13:38.000 It was like a one-two punch, man.

02:13:40.000 It killed me.

02:13:42.000 First, I looked at the headline, and it said, Bravo Dominates Gracie and Metamorris. 1.00

02:13:47.000 I'm like, what the fuck? 0.97

02:13:48.000 And it's like the ultimate review ever. 0.99

02:13:51.000 Front page of my...

02:13:53.000 That's like my home base, man.

02:13:55.000 The underground.

02:13:56.000 Keurig. 0.99

02:13:57.000 I fucking love Keurig, man. 0.98

02:13:58.000 And Chris. 0.99

02:13:59.000 Man, I... It was crazy.

02:14:02.000 And then I immediately, I didn't even read, I didn't even get on the underground.

02:14:07.000 I went to the Atoma Forum and I wanted to see what they said.

02:14:12.000 And man, Brett Natal, Check Your Oil, that's his screen name.

02:14:17.000 He's always on there.

02:14:19.000 He keeps the peace.

02:14:20.000 He's like the go-between because he also trains at Gracie Baja.

02:14:23.000 He's like the peacemaker, you know, because he won't let anybody trash 10 planet because he's one of my black belts.

02:14:29.000 But he's also training in the Gi too.

02:14:31.000 He wants to get his Gi black belt.

02:14:32.000 So he's the enforcer there. 1.00

02:14:34.000 So he starts to thread, fluke my ass. 1.00

02:14:37.000 I said, fluke my ass. 1.00

02:14:39.000 That was the thread. 1.00

02:14:39.000 So I got on. 1.00

02:14:40.000 Dude, and all them dudes that fucking couldn't stand me, Usually when something good happens to 10th Planet, they just stay off the thread and they're silent. 0.95

02:14:51.000 They don't even want to bump the thread up. 0.98

02:14:53.000 They just want to let it go.

02:14:54.000 Just let it go.

02:14:54.000 Let that video go.

02:14:56.000 Nice little highlight reel of us dominating the Gracie Nationals.

02:14:59.000 They let that go.

02:15:00.000 No response.

02:15:00.000 Let it go.

02:15:01.000 Let it go.

02:15:02.000 Because they know if they hate, it's going to backfire because now more people are going to say it.

02:15:06.000 But this one, they all responded.

02:15:08.000 They gave it up.

02:15:08.000 And it was so crazy, dude.

02:15:10.000 I'm sitting there. 1.00

02:15:10.000 I'll fucking be looking at my fucking tears rolling down my fucking face from that shit. 1.00

02:15:16.000 That is the best compliment ever when guys that were on a mission, when guys that were on a mission every day to follow me around and fucking just shank me on the side. 1.00

02:15:27.000 And to have those guys admit they were wrong... 0.91

02:15:32.000 Um, man.

02:15:33.000 I don't know, man.

02:15:34.000 That was...

02:15:35.000 There was the combination, that front page, and then...

02:15:38.000 It was incredible, man.

02:15:39.000 Most people don't want to be haters.

02:15:41.000 Yeah.

02:15:41.000 And they become haters, and then it sort of gets away from them.

02:15:44.000 You know, they just...

02:15:45.000 They almost can't help but just gets out of control.

02:15:48.000 Joey! 0.90

02:15:50.000 Oh.

02:15:50.000 Joey Diaz called?

02:15:51.000 Yeah, but damn it. 1.00

02:15:52.000 You got AT&T, bitch. 1.00

02:15:53.000 That shit ain't gonna work in here. 1.00

02:15:54.000 Yeah, he hung up. 1.00

02:15:55.000 Shit. 1.00

02:15:55.000 AT&T doesn't work in here. 1.00

02:15:57.000 Yeah.

02:15:59.000 Call him.

02:15:59.000 Call Joey really quick.

02:16:01.000 I think he knows I'm on the podcast.

02:16:03.000 He probably wants to say something. 0.99

02:16:04.000 He's probably high as fuck right now. 1.00

02:16:06.000 Joe Rogan. 0.99

02:16:06.000 What is he going to say? 0.99

02:16:08.000 Predict what he would say.

02:16:09.000 Eddie Bravo.

02:16:10.000 I told you. 1.00

02:16:11.000 I told you, cocksucker. 1.00

02:16:12.000 Electric chair all day. 1.00

02:16:15.000 Let's see.

02:16:21.000 Something might have happened.

02:16:22.000 He might have got pulled into a meeting. 0.99

02:16:24.000 Joey Diaz is blowing the fuck up. 0.82

02:16:26.000 He's selling out everywhere. 0.90

02:16:28.000 He's constantly getting brought in for meetings.

02:16:31.000 People want him to do movies.

02:16:33.000 It's incredible.

02:16:34.000 It's incredible to see him.

02:16:37.000 He might have went over the 405 or something.

02:16:43.000 I have to ask you this.

02:16:45.000 Did the Indian come out at the after party?

02:16:48.000 No, no.

02:16:49.000 I didn't feel it.

02:16:50.000 Really?

02:16:50.000 I was like, no.

02:16:51.000 Probably so tired, right?

02:16:52.000 Yeah.

02:16:53.000 No, I just didn't feel it.

02:16:55.000 Joey! 0.90

02:16:55.000 Oh, it's ringing. 0.90

02:16:57.000 Check this out.

02:16:59.000 You think it's going to work?

02:17:00.000 Yeah.

02:17:03.000 Watch.

02:17:04.000 I'm not sure if he's going to answer.

02:17:07.000 There he is.

02:17:07.000 Apparently it feels good to be a gangster.

02:17:10.000 You're on the radio.

02:17:11.000 Tell him you're live.

02:17:12.000 You're live on the podcast.

02:17:39.000 I love you, man.

02:17:43.000 We love you too, man.

02:17:45.000 Thank you.

02:17:46.000 Thank you.

02:17:47.000 Dude, he came in and just dropped a bomb right there.

02:17:49.000 He's the greatest.

02:17:50.000 Joey Diaz is the greatest.

02:17:53.000 So, what's next on the music front?

02:17:55.000 I mean, this is a hilarious thing.

02:17:57.000 You know, you're a jiu-jitsu master, but your music is just as important to you as your jiu-jitsu.

02:18:03.000 Yeah.

02:18:03.000 You know?

02:18:03.000 Yeah, and I believe this is good.

02:18:06.000 What's going on with the music?

02:18:07.000 What are you doing these days?

02:18:08.000 Dude, we just redid Dropped, me and Danny Loner, X Nine Inch Nails, X Perfect Circle.

02:18:13.000 We redid Dropped, dude.

02:18:16.000 I think it's the best work I've ever done.

02:18:18.000 Let's play it.

02:18:19.000 Can we play it?

02:18:20.000 Yeah, just go to soundcloud.com slash eddie dash bravo.

02:18:25.000 Dude, you're going to trip out what we did to this, dude.

02:18:27.000 Okay, well, let's end it with that.

02:18:29.000 We'll end it with that.

02:18:31.000 Listen, 10thplanetjujitsu.com, ladies and gentlemen.

02:18:34.000 That's what it is, 10thplanetjj.com. 0.99

02:18:38.000 I got all that shit. 0.99

02:18:40.000 What is his headquarters going to be like tonight? 1.00

02:18:42.000 Dude, I don't know, man.

02:18:43.000 Oh my god.

02:18:44.000 I wish I was training again.

02:18:46.000 Everything I did in that match. 0.99

02:18:48.000 That's old school shit that I always do. 0.98

02:18:50.000 It's all on Mastering the System. 0.97

02:18:52.000 It's all on my website.

02:18:53.000 It's only five bucks.

02:18:54.000 Right now you could learn it all.

02:18:55.000 Are they filming when you come to class tonight?

02:18:57.000 I don't know.

02:18:58.000 You better get him to film when you come to class tonight. 0.99

02:19:00.000 Are you fucking kidding me? 0.99

02:19:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:19:01.000 Are you fucking kidding me? 1.00

02:19:02.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:19:02.000 Are you fucking kidding me? 1.00

02:19:04.000 This is the class after that. 0.99

02:19:05.000 That place is going to be mobbed, bro. 0.99

02:19:08.000 That's going to be fucking bananas. 0.99

02:19:10.000 I might even come down, man. 0.99

02:19:11.000 I'm still sore as fuck, though. 0.99

02:19:13.000 I'm getting another Regenicene on my back next week. 0.98

02:19:16.000 My neck is 100% now.

02:19:18.000 What is that?

02:19:18.000 Ricky Rocket?

02:19:20.000 Hold on, hold on.

02:19:21.000 Let's see.

02:19:21.000 Make sure he knows he's live.

02:19:24.000 Hey, Ricky, you're live on Joe Rogan's podcast, so don't say any crazy shit. 0.99

02:19:29.000 Okay. 0.98

02:19:32.000 One thing I do want to say is the reason I called is I was training this morning over at the Knox, and I heard about all this stuff with boys, and I just don't understand.

02:19:43.000 I'm so upset about it.

02:19:44.000 I saw you being nothing but a freaking class act the other night.

02:19:49.000 Thank you, man. 0.74

02:19:50.000 Someone must have lied to him.

02:19:51.000 That's all.

02:19:52.000 Someone's been lying to him, and we need to get to the bottom of that.

02:19:56.000 Man, I've never heard you say anything but cool stuff about Hoyt.

02:20:00.000 Me and you used to talk about him back in the day, about how amazing it was that he came to the United States and did what he did and influenced so many people, changed the course of martial arts.

02:20:12.000 We associated him with Bruce.

02:20:15.000 Yeah, those are facts.

02:20:17.000 Someone lied to him.

02:20:18.000 It's the only thing that makes sense.

02:20:19.000 Someone had to lie to him.

02:20:22.000 Yeah, man, I can't believe it.

02:20:23.000 I wish I would have been able to stay.

02:20:25.000 I had to get home to my kids, but if I would have been there, man, God, you know?

02:20:30.000 Anything I can do on my end, I have no idea what my influence would do.

02:20:34.000 Probably nothing, but if it is, just ask me.

02:20:38.000 I'll do it, you know?

02:20:39.000 Thank you, man.

02:20:40.000 How about playing drums on one of my tracks?

02:20:42.000 How about that?

02:20:42.000 Is that cool?

02:20:44.000 I'll help this!

02:20:47.000 Beautiful.

02:20:49.000 But no, stop with the twirling of the sticks, please. 0.99

02:20:52.000 Can you play one of my songs without twirling any goddamn sticks? 0.97

02:21:02.000 Hey, but you know what, Ricky? 0.99

02:21:03.000 Ricky, I swear to God, man.

02:21:05.000 One of my good friends is Danny Loner from Nine and Snails.

02:21:08.000 He knows...

02:21:09.000 I mean, he's deep, deep, deep, deep.

02:21:12.000 And I don't know how many times I've always stuck up for Ricky Rock.

02:21:17.000 And I go, dude... 1.00

02:21:18.000 The shit you do as a showman with the twirling of the sticks and all that shit, that's amazing, man. 1.00

02:21:24.000 I can't do any of that shit. 1.00

02:21:26.000 That's talent. 1.00

02:21:27.000 Some people think, oh, it's all tricks and smokes and mirrors.

02:21:30.000 But I really, really respect your showmanship and your drumming. 0.98

02:21:34.000 I think it's fucking amazing, man. 0.98

02:21:36.000 Cirque du Soleil drumming. 0.99

02:21:37.000 I always had your back.

02:21:39.000 I always had your back.

02:21:40.000 You know that.

02:21:41.000 It's how I keep time.

02:21:44.000 Thank you, Ricky.

02:21:45.000 Take it easy, Ricky.

02:21:49.000 No problem at all.

02:21:50.000 I had no idea you were on...

02:21:51.000 Tell Joe Hay, by the way.

02:21:53.000 Okay, he's hearing you.

02:21:55.000 He hears everything you say.

02:21:56.000 I hear you.

02:21:56.000 You just can't hear me.

02:21:57.000 Hey, Joe.

02:21:57.000 It was nice...

02:21:58.000 Dude, it was nice seeing you the other night.

02:22:00.000 Great seeing you too, man.

02:22:02.000 Yep.

02:22:03.000 And you look like you That's what he was asking me.

02:22:09.000 He was asking, dude, how good is Joe Rogan? 1.00

02:22:11.000 He looks like a fucking destroyer. 1.00

02:22:12.000 I bet he can destroy people. 1.00

02:22:15.000 Mike, have you seen him kick the fucking bag on video? 1.00

02:22:17.000 He doesn't have like 10 million views or something. 0.99

02:22:20.000 I don't think it either.

02:22:22.000 Take care, Ricky. 0.98

02:22:24.000 Dude, if he's kicking ass in person, he can also kick ass verbally, too. 0.97

02:22:27.000 I mean, he's got verbal jiu-jitsu. 0.98

02:22:31.000 That's true, man.

02:22:32.000 We're going to let you go, Ricky.

02:22:34.000 We got to go.

02:22:34.000 Take care, man.

02:22:35.000 Thank you, man.

02:22:35.000 All right.

02:22:37.000 This is a beautiful podcast.

02:22:39.000 Ricky Rocket, by the way, is a black belt in jiu-jitsu as well. 1.00

02:22:42.000 He's a bad motherfucker. 0.99

02:22:43.000 Ricky Rocket from Poison is legit. 1.00

02:22:45.000 Legit black belt. 0.98

02:22:46.000 And he was doing C-Lot and all that shit too. 0.98

02:22:48.000 The Danny and Asano system. 0.97

02:22:49.000 He's a legit martial artist.

02:22:52.000 His whole life.

02:22:53.000 Always has been.

02:22:53.000 And a great guy.

02:22:55.000 Super cool.

02:22:56.000 And he's competed as a black belt.

02:22:57.000 He did the World's or Pan Am's big IBJJF tournament as a black belt.

02:23:02.000 He competed.

02:23:04.000 He's legit.

02:23:05.000 And like I said, a great guy.

02:23:07.000 Just a cool guy. 0.95

02:23:09.000 Let's just wrap it up with our sponsors and play that song and get the fuck out of here. 0.97

02:23:12.000 This is a beautiful podcast. 0.82

02:23:14.000 This podcast is the most people ever on speakerphone.

02:23:17.000 Ever.

02:23:18.000 I don't think we've ever had that many.

02:23:20.000 Three different people on speakerphone?

02:23:22.000 That's craziness.

02:23:23.000 It's crazy, man.

02:23:24.000 But it was beautiful.

02:23:25.000 Congratulations, brother.

02:23:26.000 It was an honor to be there.

02:23:28.000 I got choked up.

02:23:29.000 When people were telling me how nuts you were going, that gave me the chills.

02:23:33.000 I go, dude, Joe was losing his mind. 1.00

02:23:35.000 And I was just like, fuck, man. 1.00

02:23:36.000 Just knowing that. 1.00

02:23:37.000 You know how Brian Callen can't shut the fuck up. 0.99

02:23:39.000 He can never shut the fuck up. 0.99

02:23:40.000 By the time we got to Fogo to Chow, I still wasn't breathing right. 0.99

02:23:43.000 Wow. 0.98

02:23:45.000 Like, my hands were shaking, my heart was beating, and Brian said, blah blah blah blah, and then I said this and this, and I was like, I fuck guys, you know, he's like, doing all this shit, and I'm like, bro, I don't even know what you just said for the last half an hour, I haven't listened to a fucking word, because he was, you know, Brian Callen, when, you know how, 0.98

02:24:00.000 like, we've talked about this before, it's like, when you're not thinking about nothing, your background defaults To jiu-jitsu. 0.98

02:24:07.000 You start thinking about jiu-jitsu.

02:24:08.000 When you're sitting around, you start going over moves.

02:24:10.000 You know, you got 10 minutes before you have to be somewhere and you're just sitting there and there's nothing going on.

02:24:14.000 You start thinking, man, I gotta figure out a better counter.

02:24:18.000 Start going over that.

02:24:19.000 That's default. 0.96

02:24:19.000 For Brian Callen, when you stop talking, he defaults to gay jokes. 0.96

02:24:23.000 He defaults to him talking about fucking guys. 1.00

02:24:26.000 You know, I told him, look, I fuck guys. 1.00

02:24:29.000 And he's like, dude, it's like, And I remember looking over in the middle of him doing his shtick, and I was like, dude, I don't know what the fuck you just said. 1.00

02:24:36.000 I literally haven't even heard you. 0.95

02:24:37.000 All I've been doing is trying to catch my breath.

02:24:39.000 I almost had a heart attack, dude. 0.99

02:24:41.000 I wrote that on Instagram, and it sounds like something somebody would say, but goddamn, my heart was pounding. 0.99

02:24:48.000 It was crazy. 0.96

02:24:50.000 I just wanted you to catch him, man.

02:24:52.000 Dude.

02:24:53.000 When you went to the truck, when you rolled, that left shoulder roll, the twister roll, which is my favorite move in all of jiu-jitsu.

02:25:00.000 But it was from half guard.

02:25:01.000 It was in bird.

02:25:02.000 It's not a twister roll.

02:25:02.000 But that left roll that you do, that left roll.

02:25:04.000 I knew you were going there.

02:25:06.000 I was hoping you were going to hit the twister.

02:25:08.000 I was hoping you were going to adjust and go for the twister. 0.99

02:25:10.000 Most people didn't know what the fuck was going on. 0.98

02:25:13.000 Jeff Glover in the commentary is like, I like to think of myself as a guy who's well versed in jujitsu and I don't even know what's going on here. 0.99

02:25:22.000 It was crazy, man.

02:25:23.000 That's why it's so hard to defend.

02:25:24.000 You know, that was Renato Magno was telling him, you don't know Eddie's game, you're going to get tapped.

02:25:29.000 You don't know Eddie's game, you're going to get tapped.

02:25:32.000 It's funny, but Hoyler, to his credit, would not tap. 1.00

02:25:35.000 He's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

02:25:36.000 You got to give him that, man. 1.00

02:25:37.000 That guy's got heart.

02:25:38.000 Because I know there's a photo of us online, the high-time shoot where you got me the vaporizer.

02:25:44.000 Just that picture, like, that's a real agony look on my face.

02:25:47.000 I'm like, ah!

02:25:48.000 And you're not even pulling on it.

02:25:49.000 Yeah.

02:25:50.000 I couldn't imagine the way you were yanking it with two hands and Hoyler just let it go.

02:25:54.000 He just let it get all chewed up.

02:25:56.000 I'd never gone that deep with a vaporizer ever.

02:26:01.000 People tap right the fuck away. 0.65

02:26:03.000 That's the worst one. 1.00

02:26:04.000 He's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

02:26:05.000 He hung in there, man. 1.00

02:26:07.000 It's Hoyler Gracie.

02:26:08.000 You didn't get to be Hoyler Gracie from tapping easy.

02:26:10.000 Absolutely, man.

02:26:11.000 All right, man.

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02:26:29.000 Yeah, that is fucking painful. 0.99

02:26:31.000 That's it right there. 0.99

02:26:33.000 That's not me clowning around.

02:26:35.000 That look on my face there is like, that's real agony.

02:26:37.000 Ouchie, wah-wah. 0.99

02:26:38.000 That sucks. 0.98

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02:26:55.000 If you want to learn Jiu-Jitsu, my friend, the 10th Planet way, go to 10thPlanetJJ.com or, you know, holler at Eddie on Twitter.

02:27:07.000 You can get Eddie Bravo, at Eddie Bravo on Twitter, and you'll find out if he's coming to your town for seminars.

02:27:13.000 He does a lot of seminars.

02:27:14.000 He travels constantly.

02:27:16.000 You didn't travel at all for this two-month.

02:27:18.000 The last month and a half.

02:27:19.000 If you want any information on my homeschool, 10th Planet headquarters, which is downtown L.A., Email me at eddie at 10thplanetjj.com. 0.98

02:27:29.000 I'll give you the schedule and prices and I'll let you know how we do shit. 0.92

02:27:32.000 We got a warm-up curriculum that's intense, man. 0.97

02:27:34.000 So there's a lot to understand before you have to come to class now.

02:27:37.000 It's different.

02:27:38.000 It's a different day. 1.00

02:27:39.000 And prepare yourself for dick pics, Eddie Bravo. 1.00

02:27:42.000 You just gave out your fucking email address on the internet. 1.00

02:27:44.000 How dare you? 1.00

02:27:46.000 Black cocks or an ocean of them are coming your way. 1.00

02:27:49.000 Goddamn tidal wave. 1.00

02:27:50.000 Why'd you put that out there? 0.99

02:27:53.000 Why did I put it out there?

02:27:55.000 It's out there.

02:27:55.000 And the song that we're going to close with is available for free download at soundcloud.com slash eddie dash bravo.

02:28:03.000 Glorious.

02:28:04.000 Me, as far as me, I got three dates upcoming.

02:28:08.000 Miami, which is this Thursday.

02:28:10.000 I'm at the Jackie Gleason Theater at the Fillmore with Tony Hinchcliffe.

02:28:14.000 Looking forward to that. 0.95

02:28:15.000 And then 4-18, I'm in Orlando with Joey motherfucking Diaz. 0.56

02:28:21.000 And then 4-25, April 25th, I'm in Baltimore again with Joey Diaz. 0.99

02:28:27.000 We're going to have some fucking fun. 0.73

02:28:29.000 Oh, April 12th, I'm at 10th Planet Beaumont, Texas with Brian Debs. 0.98

02:28:33.000 That's April 12th.

02:28:34.000 And the first weekend in May, there's a Midwest training camp at 10th Planet Omaha.

02:28:40.000 Go to the Nibiru forum for all the info.

02:28:42.000 That's the forum that's on 10thplanetjj.com.

02:28:45.000 So that Midwest training camp, we're going to have Gio and Boogie teaching there, John Botello, Brian McCaffrey, and me.

02:28:50.000 It's going to be just a wild weekend of just mad jiu-jitsu.

02:28:53.000 Glorious, glorious.

02:28:54.000 Alright, JoeRogan.net for details and tickets, and all the podcasts are available there as well.

02:29:00.000 Thanks to everybody that we ran into this weekend. 0.64

02:29:03.000 I tried to take pictures with as many people as I could at Metamorris, but it got fucking crazy.

02:29:07.000 But thank you for all the love, and thanks for all the love Sunday night, too, at the Comedy Magic Club.

02:29:13.000 We'll be back tomorrow.

02:29:15.000 We've got a lot of podcasts this week, a lot of cool shit, and much love, everybody. 0.60

02:29:19.000 Now, Dropped. 0.80

02:29:21.000 Eddie Bravo's new track, the new remix.

02:29:24.000 Smoke Serpent is the name of the band.

02:29:25.000 Boom.

02:29:27.000 Just listen to 15 seconds.

02:29:31.000 No, just play it, man.

02:30:16.000 Welcome to my show!

02:30:34.000 We're good to go.

02:30:39.000 We're good to go.

02:31:10.000 Never this crazy before, time to settle the score, treading on floors but thinking of the skies, the famine arise, feet of mine, hate meant to walk the line, the first fess my mind, the first incurred the stride, sides to stride, strides to might, I

02:31:42.000 get dropped.

02:31:44.000 But I'm right back in.

02:31:47.000 I get dropped.

02:32:11.000 We're good to go.

02:32:15.000 We're good to go.

02:32:54.000 I can't drop. 1.00

02:32:56.000 But I'm like that damn. 0.99

02:32:57.000 I've been through the worst. 1.00

02:32:58.000 I can't handle them.

02:32:59.000 I can't drop.

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 31, 2014

Joe Rogan Experience #478 - Eddie Bravo

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