The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #529 - Abby Martin

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00:03:41.000 How about them apples, bitches? 1.00

00:03:44.000 Abby Martin's here. 1.00

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00:04:02.000 So, Mrs. Rogan sends me this video.

00:04:05.000 She goes, uh, have you seen this?

00:04:07.000 Like, what do you think about Gaza?

00:04:09.000 What's going on with Gaza?

00:04:10.000 What is your take on this?

00:04:11.000 And she sends me a video of you.

00:04:13.000 And I said, that's my friend Abby Martin, who took this very controversial stance.

00:04:20.000 And, um...

00:04:21.000 This is a tricky situation, isn't it?

00:04:23.000 First of all, it's sad and depressing and disgusting, but it's also very tricky because there's all these weird biases that are going on left and right. 0.99

00:04:35.000 The United States has this weird bias where they're criticizing Israel, and then Israel's like, hey, fuckheads, didn't you guys bomb the shit out of Iraq? 1.00

00:04:44.000 Didn't you bomb the shit out of Afghanistan? 1.00

00:04:46.000 You guys are talking about innocent civilians being killed? 1.00

00:04:49.000 What about you? 0.98

00:04:50.000 And then there's also people on the Palestinian side that think it's just fucking horrendous what Israel's doing. 0.67

00:04:57.000 And then there's people on the Israeli side that think Hamas should just sign the peace treaty and stop training suicide bombers.

00:05:04.000 You know, in my opinion, when I look at it, and I'm obviously not qualified to be some sort of a political analyst, but when I look at it, I try to look at it objectively.

00:05:15.000 The whole thing looks like just a disaster, like a huge humanitarian disaster.

00:05:21.000 I think it's one of the largest humanitarian issues in the world today, and I think that we're going to look back in 50 years and really just criticize how abominable the entire situation is and the fact that the world isn't turning a blind eye.

00:05:34.000 The U.S. is turning a blind eye.

00:05:37.000 You know, you say that I took a controversial position, but really, it isn't controversial in my mind because I'm looking at this oppressed population that's imprisoned.

00:05:46.000 When I grew up, Joe, I didn't even know, first of all, what Palestine was.

00:05:50.000 And then finally, when I learned about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, even though it's really one-sided, I started to learn about what Gaza actually is.

00:05:57.000 And I think a lot of people don't even understand, when they hear the word Gaza, what they're talking about.

00:06:02.000 It's really what we're talking about as an open-air prison system.

00:06:04.000 45-mile strip of land.

00:06:06.000 Completely closed off.

00:06:08.000 Egypt's closed their borders. 1.00

00:06:09.000 Sisi's just fucking sucking the dick of Netanyahu. 1.00

00:06:13.000 Totally working together. 1.00

00:06:14.000 Netanyahu shut off.

00:06:16.000 The IDF is closed off all the other borders.

00:06:19.000 It's totally under siege.

00:06:20.000 There's 1.8 million people living in that close quarters.

00:06:24.000 It's one of the most densely populated places on Earth.

00:06:26.000 So whenever you have this bombing campaign, People are gonna die in mass. 1.00

00:06:31.000 And when they say that they're using human shields, that's complete fucking bullshit. 1.00

00:06:35.000 I haven't seen one shred of evidence to prove that they're using human shields. 0.99

00:06:38.000 In fact, if you look back at the last 60 years of US military conflicts, they've used that term to demonize populations whenever they want to make it seem like this population doesn't value human life.

00:06:50.000 You're telling me Palestinians don't value their child's life?

00:06:52.000 They're gonna throw their kids out and guard missiles? 0.50

00:06:55.000 All I've seen is cartoons from Netanyahu, these infographics that show people standing on a house with missiles underneath. 1.00

00:07:02.000 Total fucking bullshit. 1.00

00:07:03.000 This place has been under siege for years. 1.00

00:07:06.000 Yes, they may have said that they pulled their troops out in 2007. It's under siege.

00:07:10.000 The Israeli health officials said that they've tried to put them on a diet, so they only allow basic staples in.

00:07:18.000 They claim because they don't want the Palestinians to be making weapons.

00:07:21.000 Pasta?

00:07:22.000 Paper?

00:07:23.000 Chocolate, anesthetics, wheelchairs. 1.00

00:07:25.000 This is the shit that people can't get inside Gaza. 0.99

00:07:28.000 They're keeping them gluten-free. 0.99

00:07:32.000 It's been shown to reduce hostility.

00:07:35.000 There was a documentary once on suicide bombings and they had this Palestinian school and they had this sign over the school that said, today's children are tomorrow's holy martyrs.

00:07:45.000 And they had this child that was strapped up with C4 and they had this picture of this kid that had died in a suicide bombing.

00:07:52.000 And they were praising him like he was some sort of a saint.

00:07:58.000 Because he died executing this suicide bomb.

00:08:02.000 We praise soldiers who go and drop white phosphorus from a plane. 0.95

00:08:06.000 What's more manly?

00:08:07.000 When you're driven to zero, when you have nothing left, that's when people blow themselves up. 0.99

00:08:13.000 It's not because it's a culture of martyrdom, it's because they have fucking nothing. 0.97

00:08:17.000 And they don't have the industrial warfare capabilities to drop depleted uranium. 0.99

00:08:21.000 Right.

00:08:22.000 Yeah, I'm certainly not taking a side.

00:08:25.000 But what I'm saying is that it's an incredibly complicated situation.

00:08:29.000 I don't know what would Israel do to alleviate tensions at this point.

00:08:37.000 How many thousands of people have died so far in this?

00:08:40.000 Over 1,500 at this point.

00:08:41.000 1,500.

00:08:42.000 Jesus Christ.

00:08:43.000 30% children.

00:08:44.000 Yeah.

00:08:44.000 I've seen photos.

00:08:45.000 Anthony Bourdain tweeted some awful photo of these children on the beach that had been bombed.

00:08:51.000 And one kid was dead.

00:08:53.000 Another kid was being carried away.

00:08:54.000 Most likely dead, it looked like, by all the blood and everything.

00:08:59.000 It's so depressing.

00:09:00.000 It's so awful.

00:09:01.000 And if you could objectively stop...

00:09:06.000 The whole scene and say, what is a way to fix this?

00:09:09.000 What is a way to alleviate this horrible conflict?

00:09:14.000 What is it?

00:09:15.000 Is there a way?

00:09:16.000 Well, I think up until now, people have been saying that two-state solutions are a possibility.

00:09:19.000 You had the Palestinian Authority working with the Israeli government.

00:09:22.000 Hamas has negotiated before.

00:09:23.000 It's not that they're, like, ignoring Israel.

00:09:27.000 And, of course, there's a lot of problems with Hamas, and I'm not going to sit here and apologize for them. 0.99

00:09:31.000 I don't agree with anything that they want to see happen.

00:09:35.000 But I understand why Palestinians have aligned themselves with this group because the Palestinian Authority failed so much and they capitulated so much to Israel. 0.98

00:09:43.000 So they basically turned to the more militant faction of the leadership saying, fucking do something. 0.73

00:09:48.000 At least you guys are resisting because to them it's an occupation and under the UN charter it's an occupation as well. 0.84

00:09:54.000 A lot of people say the one state solution is the only possibility, which is end the apartheid state, give Palestinians equal rights, because right now there's different laws.

00:10:03.000 If you're Arab, that's what Israel is. 1.00

00:10:05.000 It's a Jewish state and they've driven out people who are not Jewish and they're ethnically cleansing them. 1.00

00:10:10.000 It's a fucking disaster, man. 1.00

00:10:12.000 It's really scary. 1.00

00:10:13.000 And I don't actually blame Israelis because you're growing up in Israel.

00:10:17.000 First of all, they think that they're the chosen people because the Bible says so, which is disturbing in itself. 0.99

00:10:23.000 But second of all, if you're growing up in Israel and you do hear the sirens all the time and you fucking think you're being told that these people are terrorists and they want to kill you. 0.98

00:10:31.000 So, I mean, I don't blame it. 0.97

00:10:33.000 But honestly, Israel has much more fair media coverage.

00:10:37.000 They have Haaretz, they have 972 Mag. 1.00

00:10:39.000 Here in America, we're treated like fucking children. 0.99

00:10:41.000 We aren't told the context of the situation whatsoever. 0.99

00:10:44.000 All we're told is Hamas terrorists keep firing at Israel, and Israel has the right to self-defense.

00:10:50.000 Well, in all fairness, this is a topic that's really too complicated for the news, in quotes.

00:10:55.000 You're not going to get in a Fox seven-minute soundbite in between commercials.

00:10:58.000 This is something that's incredibly complex and really should be like a three- or four-hour documentary just to scratch the surface.

00:11:04.000 And I don't know if...

00:11:07.000 I mean, I guess if you call yourself the news, there's a responsibility, at least an implied responsibility, to educate when it comes to a situation like this.

00:11:18.000 But to try to cover it on Fox News or on CNN and to try to give an understanding to the people viewing, it seems almost impossible.

00:11:28.000 But they also just only do pro-Israel bias.

00:11:31.000 That's why I did that video, Why Doesn't the Media Care About Dead Palestinians? 0.66

00:11:34.000 Because there were hundreds of Palestinians that had died already and the news was still making it seem like...

00:11:40.000 Like literally every single headline was just like three Israeli soldiers died, 400 others.

00:11:46.000 And you're like, who are others?

00:11:47.000 Palestinians? 0.74

00:11:48.000 Like human beings? 1.00

00:11:49.000 Like who the fuck are these people? 0.99

00:11:50.000 Or it would just be like Israel's, you know, Hamas rockets have Israel on edge. 1.00

00:11:54.000 It's like, yeah, they might have Israel on edge, but people are fucking like dying and getting dismembered and getting blown up. 0.98

00:12:00.000 Like, from bombs. 1.00

00:12:01.000 And all this ceasefire shit, man, look, you're invading a country. 0.99

00:12:07.000 They are invading Gaza. 0.99

00:12:08.000 Netanyahu has also said it doesn't matter ceasefire or not, they're gonna go through with the invasion and destroy the tunnels.

00:12:14.000 The tunnels are not just used to store rockets.

00:12:17.000 The tunnels are used to smuggle food into Gaza.

00:12:19.000 The tunnels are used to smuggle people out to try to get them into Egypt because they're wounded and injured.

00:12:24.000 On the news, it is disgusting.

00:12:26.000 I've never seen anything so disgusting in my life than the bias toward Israel on the media.

00:12:31.000 And I know I'm called so many names because I'm pointing this out, but to me, it's very obvious.

00:12:37.000 My friend right here, she's from South Africa.

00:12:39.000 She grew up in a culture of post-apartheid, and we're living in a world where an apartheid state exists right now.

00:12:47.000 And because of this tight allegiance with the U.S., the U.S. supplies over $3 billion a year in just weaponry.

00:12:53.000 We're continuing to give more weapons to Israel. 0.55

00:12:55.000 Unless the U.S. says something, nothing's going to change. 0.96

00:12:59.000 And because it's this Jewish state, if you criticize it, then you must hate Jewish people.

00:13:04.000 And that's the problem is this rhetoric.

00:13:06.000 And it's so hard to break through and to explain to people, look, because I'm criticizing a government doesn't mean that I hate a population.

00:13:12.000 I love all human beings.

00:13:14.000 I just want them to have...

00:13:17.000 Well, there's also this undeniable problem with having an area like that. 0.99

00:13:23.000 And what the problem is, is that there are going to be children that are born in that area that have no history of conflict whatsoever, and they're fucked. 1.00

00:13:33.000 They're fucked. 1.00

00:13:34.000 This is where they live now, and they're treated as the enemy. 1.00

00:13:37.000 And they're born into that.

00:13:39.000 And there's no chance to break that cycle.

00:13:42.000 In that sort of a scenario, if you have a closed border, you have a closed-in population, and you have this demonized population, There's no chance to break that struggle. 0.97

00:13:51.000 I mean, if you're a child and you're born in Palestine, what the fuck are the options? 0.96

00:13:55.000 Where are you going? 0.98

00:13:56.000 What's going on?

00:13:57.000 And what are the ideologies that you're confronted with constantly, left and right?

00:14:01.000 You've got Hamas, you've got all these Palestinian organizations that want to fight against Israel.

00:14:08.000 And, you know, you're growing up in this state of perpetual conflict.

00:14:12.000 It doesn't seem like there's any resolution that's conceivable.

00:14:16.000 It's a terrible, terrible tragedy as far as, like, the wasted human potential of the children that are born there, the people that are forced to grow up in that environment, as opposed to Israel, where they could just fucking fly out and leave and live there. 0.89

00:14:31.000 You know, I mean...

00:14:33.000 I'm not, you know, I'm 100% against war.

00:14:37.000 I don't think that war is the option here.

00:14:37.000 100%.

00:14:40.000 I don't think it's correct.

00:14:41.000 I don't think...

00:14:42.000 I never think it's correct.

00:14:44.000 The only time it's ever...

00:14:46.000 I think the only time the military should ever be used is when there's an obvious threat. 0.99

00:14:50.000 You've got some ISIS crazy fucks or something that are invading a country and having mass executions. 0.98

00:14:56.000 Like what we're dealing with right now in Iraq... 0.99

00:14:59.000 That, to me, is a way clearer example of something that probably needs some fucking military attention than anything that they use to justify going to war with Iraq in the first place. 0.61

00:15:09.000 Like, what they've created in this vacuum is way scary. 0.92

00:15:13.000 We're pulling out now.

00:15:14.000 Well, it's not our problem.

00:15:15.000 No, that's a real problem.

00:15:17.000 This is a real problem. 1.00

00:15:18.000 What you fuckers did is you created a problem. 1.00

00:15:21.000 You created a power vacuum and now there's a real problem because now you've got militants who are so militant that regular Islam is not militant enough for them. 1.00

00:15:30.000 They're blowing up mosques. 1.00

00:15:31.000 These fuckers are blowing up like these historic sites. 1.00

00:15:34.000 They got training from the Syrian rebels that we gave them. 1.00

00:15:37.000 So it's like we embolden the Syrian rebels that were aligned with this really radical faction of Islam and then they join up with ISIS and now they're going back to fucking Iraq and you're like, what in the hell? 0.99

00:15:46.000 This is why we shouldn't get involved! 0.97

00:15:48.000 This is why we shouldn't go inject democracy in places that are completely on a different evolutionary path of, you know, culture.

00:15:53.000 Duncan and I had dinner last night after the show and we were talking about this and we were both shaking our head.

00:15:58.000 And one of the things that we kept coming to is whenever you have military action, whenever you kill a thousand people, you don't just kill a thousand people.

00:16:06.000 You also make widows. 0.96

00:16:08.000 You make loved ones who hate, who lost their friends and family.

00:16:13.000 And there's just this culture of hate that just never goes away.

00:16:17.000 It's a cycle of violence.

00:16:18.000 As long as those people are alive, this cycle is just ingrained in them on both sides, on the Israeli side, on the Palestinian side. 0.83

00:16:26.000 It's just horrific and it's almost like this process that's impossible to completely stop. 0.99

00:16:32.000 Like once the blood is shed, like fuck man, it creates this unfixable problem. 1.00

00:16:41.000 I see it in a—okay, so we created this Jewish state. 1.00

00:16:45.000 The U.S. helped create this Jewish state, Israel.

00:16:48.000 Then there was, you know, the Antifadas, and then they had their borders.

00:16:51.000 And basically what's happened is that Israel has continued to encroach. 0.88

00:16:55.000 And if you look at the map, there's like this map, this very famous picture of these four factions of how Israel has encroached more and more in Palestine. 0.73

00:17:03.000 And now it just closed off more and more.

00:17:06.000 Gaza's just shrunk.

00:17:07.000 To about this big.

00:17:08.000 The West Bank has shrunk to about this big.

00:17:10.000 And they continue to build settlements against international law.

00:17:15.000 They've violated all of these international treaties to continue doing this because more and more settlers are going over there and making a home base.

00:17:26.000 We're good to go.

00:17:48.000 Or the clock on the conflict.

00:17:49.000 And that really all depends on the context of the situation. 0.98

00:17:51.000 But when people say, like, well, you're fucking shooting rockets at us, what do you think we're going to do? 0.98

00:17:56.000 The problem is you have to understand why they're shooting rockets. 0.98

00:17:59.000 And no one wants to talk about that.

00:18:00.000 And no one wants to talk about how if you have a helpless population under Section 51 under the UN Charter, that if you're getting fucking peddled with industrial warfare and you don't have an army and you're a helpless population being occupied, you do have the right to defend yourself.

00:18:16.000 That's the UN! I'm not- I abhor violence on either side, and I completely condemn shooting rockets into civilian populations and trying to kill people.

00:18:26.000 But I do understand the resistance movement, and I do understand people aligning with Hamas because, look, they're under fucking siege. 0.79

00:18:33.000 And if I didn't have basic amenities, and if I saw my home, like, my neighbor's homes getting demolished all my life, and if I fucking saw people getting shot and beat the shit out of all my Palestinian friends here who have left Palestine over the years, Their stories are just unbelievable. 0.94

00:18:49.000 One of them's brother was beaten to death by the IDF when he was 16 because he threw a stone. 0.86

00:18:54.000 The other one lost six family members and one bombing. 0.99

00:18:57.000 And I'm just like, how the fuck do you guys go on? 0.99

00:19:01.000 And they're like, just surviving is our resistance. 0.99

00:19:04.000 Just living is our resistance.

00:19:07.000 And everyone has a story like that.

00:19:09.000 And there's incredible biases on the pro-Israel side.

00:19:15.000 I've seen some videos that make you just go, wait, what?

00:19:19.000 The Dennis Prager one is the most egregious.

00:19:22.000 Have you ever seen that?

00:19:23.000 We'll play it.

00:19:23.000 What is it?

00:19:23.000 No.

00:19:24.000 We'll play it because it's quite fascinating.

00:19:27.000 Dennis Prager on the Palestine-Israeli conflict.

00:19:33.000 It's like he...

00:19:34.000 He breaks it down in this way.

00:19:37.000 It's a highly criticized video.

00:19:41.000 The one in a nutshell?

00:19:42.000 Yes.

00:19:43.000 Let's listen to it.

00:19:44.000 Let's do it.

00:19:45.000 Because it's one of those ones where you're like, okay, come on, man.

00:19:51.000 We'll play it here.

00:19:53.000 You got it?

00:19:55.000 Because it's something that you can't really describe without actually saying.

00:19:59.000 Because Dennis Prager is this, like, serious conservative Jewish fella. 0.88

00:20:03.000 Right.

00:20:03.000 Prager University.

00:20:05.000 By the way, you can't have Prager University, you fuck. 1.00

00:20:07.000 You know, you're not a goddamn professor of a university that you make yourself. 1.00

00:20:11.000 You know, the motto of Prager University is you give us five minutes and we'll give you a semester. 0.98

00:20:16.000 Well, I took many semesters on the question of the Middle East conflict.

00:20:20.000 I was at the Middle East Institute, in fact, at Columbia University.

00:20:23.000 That's where I did my graduate work.

00:20:25.000 Semester after semester, discussing the Middle East conflict as if it were the most complex conflict in the world, when in fact it's probably the easiest conflict in the world to describe.

00:20:36.000 It may be the hardest to solve, But it really is the easiest to describe.

00:20:42.000 And really, in a nutshell, this is what it is. 1.00

00:20:42.000 Kill all Muslims. 1.00

00:20:45.000 Israel would like to exist and recognizes the right of the Palestinians to have a state. 0.99

00:20:50.000 The Palestinians, however, and many other Muslims and Arabs do not recognize the right of a Jewish state of Israel to exist.

00:20:58.000 Every poll among Palestinians shows that the majority of Palestinians want there to be no Jewish state of Israel, doesn't believe that it should exist, or had any basis for being.

00:21:10.000 And this has been true since 1948, when the British left and the UN established A division.

00:21:17.000 Palestine will be cut in half, a Jewish half, and an Arab half. 0.88

00:21:21.000 The Jews accepted it, the Arabs didn't accept it, and what happened?

00:21:24.000 The moment it was announced, Arab armies, about seven Arab armies, attacked the Jewish state in order to destroy it.

00:21:31.000 To everybody's surprise, the little Jewish state survived, and that was pretty much it. 1.00

00:21:36.000 And then it happened again in 1967 when the dictator of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser, said we are now going to extinguish the Jewish state of Israel.

00:21:45.000 And Jordan joined him and Syria joined him, but Israel attacked first and so Israel survived. 0.97

00:21:52.000 And that is how Israel, and only that way, came to occupy what was called the West Bank of Jordan, where many Palestinians lived, because many Palestinians lived in that part of Jordan.

00:22:05.000 So the war was over in 1967, and what did the Arabs do?

00:22:08.000 The Arab states all went to Khartoum, Sudan, and announced no recognition, no peace, and no negotiations.

00:22:16.000 The three famous no's.

00:22:17.000 What was Israel supposed to do? 0.85

00:22:20.000 Then Israel made an agreement to give the entire Sinai Peninsula an area of land bigger than Israel with oil back to Egypt because they said they would make peace with Israel. 0.57

00:22:31.000 Israel gives territory back for peace and it will always do that.

00:22:35.000 But is there really a desire for peace on the part of Israel's enemies, which broadcast after broadcast on TV and radio in the Palestinian areas is about how Jews should be killed and how Allah wants Jews to be killed?

00:22:51.000 That's the typical broadcast on Palestinian television.

00:22:56.000 It's not hard to explain the Middle East dispute.

00:23:00.000 One side wants the other dead.

00:23:01.000 You know what the motto of Hamas is? 0.94

00:23:04.000 The motto of Hamas is, we love death as much as the Jews love life. 0.99

00:23:09.000 Now you tell me, how is Israel supposed to make peace when people believe what Hamas believes?

00:23:16.000 Oh God, where do I start?

00:23:17.000 Now here is one of the most important things nobody talks about.

00:23:20.000 Everybody talks about a Palestinian state.

00:23:23.000 Why didn't anybody talk about a Palestinian state while the Palestinians lived under Jordanian rule?

00:23:29.000 Because the truth is, people started talking about a Palestinian state once the Palestinians were under Israeli rule because it was always a way to destroy the Jewish state of Israel. 0.77

00:23:40.000 And I say Jewish state because that's what it is.

00:23:43.000 There are many, many Arab states, but there is only one Jewish state.

00:23:47.000 It is about the size of New Jersey.

00:23:49.000 In fact, Israel is the size of El Salvador.

00:23:52.000 El Salvador!

00:23:55.000 And yet, if a Martian came to the Earth and they visited the United Nations or they read the world's newspapers or watched world television, they would believe that the biggest problem on Earth is a state the size of New Jersey and El Salvador, this state of Israel. 0.52

00:24:11.000 This preoccupation with a little democratic, humane state is absolutely irrational.

00:24:17.000 And here's another question to be asked.

00:24:20.000 If Israel tomorrow put down its arms and said, we will fight no more, what would happen?

00:24:25.000 If the Arab countries around Israel said, we will fight no more, we put down our arms, what would happen?

00:24:31.000 In the first case, there would be an immediate destruction of the state of Israel, with mass murder of the Jews of Israel. 0.54

00:24:38.000 In the second scenario I presented, where the Arabs put down their arms and said, we just want peace, there would be peace the next Wednesday.

00:24:47.000 The fact is, as I said at the outset, it is a very simple problem to describe.

00:24:54.000 One side wants the other dead.

00:24:56.000 And if they didn't, there would be peace.

00:24:59.000 And yet, please remember this.

00:25:02.000 There has never been, never in the history of the world, a state in that area, in what is called geographically Palestine, that was not Jewish.

00:25:13.000 Israel is the third autonomous Jewish state to exist in that area.

00:25:19.000 There was never an autonomous Arab state.

00:25:21.000 There was never an autonomous Muslim state.

00:25:24.000 There was never an autonomous any other state.

00:25:28.000 That's the issue.

00:25:30.000 Why can't a little state the size of El Salvador that calls itself Israel be allowed to exist? 0.88

00:25:37.000 That, in a nutshell, is the Middle East problem. 1.00

00:25:40.000 I'm Dennis Prager. 0.98

00:25:41.000 Dennis Prager's a douchebag. 0.96

00:25:45.000 I love how he's like, um, okay, so you have all these Arab states and this is the only Jewish state. 1.00

00:25:51.000 Arab isn't a fucking religion, idiot! 1.00

00:25:54.000 Jewish state! 1.00

00:25:55.000 Yeah, you have an Islamic state, Iran, but are you going to really compare the fucking two if you're claiming that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East? 0.98

00:26:01.000 Are you really comparing yourself to Iran and all these other, like... 0.99

00:26:04.000 I mean, it's just amazing that he just said that.

00:26:06.000 That's insane. 0.96

00:26:07.000 Also, sure, there's absolutely people who hate Jewish people. 0.94

00:26:11.000 There's calls for genocide on that side.

00:26:13.000 But there's also calls for genocide in the Israeli cabinet as well. 0.99

00:26:17.000 Some woman just said that all Palestinians should die. 1.00

00:26:20.000 Times of Israel just published a piece... 0.99

00:26:23.000 Justifying genocide.

00:26:24.000 They actually said when genocide is permissible.

00:26:26.000 This was just published yesterday, taken down in a couple hours because of the backlash.

00:26:31.000 But you have this rhetoric coming from both sides, but I only see one side actually doing the genocide.

00:26:52.000 What did he say?

00:26:57.000 He just he said like the borders should like Israel as a state shouldn't be there as a Jewish state. 1.00

00:27:02.000 He didn't say fucking wipe them off the map, kill them all. 0.99

00:27:05.000 That was a mistranslation. 1.00

00:27:06.000 And of course, you just hear that repeated ad nauseum, no matter what. 0.85

00:27:10.000 One other thing that's just really ridiculous is this other Israeli cabinet official just said that Palestinians are committing self genocide. 0.94

00:27:17.000 That every time a Palestinian child dies, it's because they're killing themselves. 1.00

00:27:21.000 I guess there must be rockets inside of these children, because I haven't seen any evidence whatsoever.

00:27:26.000 All the homes that they're blowing up, where are these rocket command centers? 0.98

00:27:29.000 I just want to see fucking evidence that's not a cartoon. 0.95

00:27:32.000 Well, Prager's, his point of view is very simplified, very simplistic and biased, obviously. 0.97

00:27:40.000 You know, the whole take, like, it's very simple.

00:27:43.000 Right.

00:27:44.000 The Jewish state, it's very simple. 0.55

00:27:46.000 It's not very simple.

00:27:47.000 It's not simple at all, man.

00:27:49.000 And he didn't mention what you mentioned at all, is that these people are kind of closed in there.

00:27:55.000 Right.

00:27:56.000 And there's no hope for them.

00:27:58.000 This idea that, you know, first of all, the idea that a Jewish state has always... 1.00

00:28:03.000 Who gives a fuck? 1.00

00:28:05.000 Religion's retarded, alright? 1.00

00:28:07.000 If you're an old man and you think religion's a good idea, good on you, buddy. 1.00

00:28:10.000 Keep rocking that shit until your fucking body stops working. 1.00

00:28:14.000 But for us, for the young folks that are out here that are sort of paying attention to the way things have run on this planet... 1.00

00:28:20.000 In this idiotic, cyclical manner from the beginning of time. 1.00

00:28:25.000 From the beginning, the first fucking dude wrote shit down and decided to tell the other guys that God wrote it or God told them to write it. 1.00

00:28:33.000 This idea that the religious state should be allowed to exist, the idea of a religious state is ridiculous. 1.00

00:28:41.000 Right. 0.99

00:28:41.000 It's insane. 0.99

00:28:42.000 It's ridiculous whether it's a state of Scientology, whether it's the Moonies have their own fucking country, like any country that is based on religion. 1.00

00:28:52.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

00:28:53.000 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:28:54.000 And I know we're supposed to have religious freedom, and I agree with that. 0.99

00:28:58.000 I agree that you should fucking, you should be able to worship the spaghetti monster, you should be able to do whatever you want, but when you have an entire state that believes it's the chosen people, And they're connected to this other state that they have sort of boxed into this 45-mile strip. 0.97

00:29:16.000 I mean, objectively, stand outside of the situation. 0.98

00:29:21.000 What are those poor people supposed to do? 1.00

00:29:23.000 Right.

00:29:24.000 Look, I am not discounting this idea that Hamas is a terrorist organization, because they obviously are. 0.96

00:29:32.000 But how does a terrorist organization start out?

00:29:35.000 It's like one of the things that happened during September 11th that drove me fucking bananas, when George Bush was like, they hate us for our freedom, you know? 0.68

00:29:43.000 Okay. 0.96

00:29:45.000 They hate us so much for our freedom that they're willing to fly planes into buildings.

00:29:49.000 What did we do? 0.98

00:29:51.000 What the fuck are we doing that gets people angry? 0.97

00:29:54.000 Nobody ever thinks about that. 0.99

00:29:55.000 All they ever think about is the action themselves.

00:29:57.000 Not like, what's causing this action?

00:30:00.000 What is it that's making people come from another planet and blow up buildings in New York City? 0.57

00:30:05.000 Well, it's not New York City.

00:30:07.000 It's not those people.

00:30:08.000 It's not the people in those buildings. 0.99

00:30:10.000 They're surely as fuck not freedom. 0.99

00:30:11.000 It's not freedom. 0.99

00:30:12.000 It has nothing to do with it.

00:30:13.000 It's this discounting of the chain of events that cause this cataclysmic disaster.

00:30:19.000 It's discounting the pressures, the inequities, all the problems, the inequality, the despair of being born into that situation.

00:30:32.000 And it's the idea that the thing that drives me the most crazy about war is that people will agree that those people are the enemy.

00:30:39.000 People that they don't even know.

00:30:41.000 Right.

00:31:09.000 It's preposterous.

00:31:11.000 It exists all throughout this country.

00:31:11.000 That's insane.

00:31:14.000 Yeah, there's racism and there's biases against religions and religious beliefs, for sure.

00:31:21.000 But there's always going to be that.

00:31:24.000 There's bias against Republicans. 1.00

00:31:25.000 Hate fucking Democrats. 1.00

00:31:27.000 Democrats hate Republicans. 1.00

00:31:28.000 A lot of people hate libertarians.

00:31:30.000 People love to hate people, regardless.

00:31:33.000 And when the media is amplifying that hate and telling you more reasons why you should hate, it's the same logic.

00:31:39.000 Okay, so Hamas is the democratically elected leadership of the Gaza Strip.

00:31:43.000 And the reason is because of what I said before is that they're aligning more with this militant faction because they are trying to resist this occupation and ongoing siege.

00:31:51.000 I disagree with Hamas's All of what they stand for, but I understand the evolution of how this happened. 0.91

00:31:57.000 But it's the same logic as saying all Palestinians deserve to die because they elected Hamas. 0.99

00:32:01.000 They all must be terrorists. 1.00

00:32:02.000 They all must believe in this shit. 1.00

00:32:03.000 It's the same logic Bin Laden had, that Americans deserve to die because, you know, of what we did. 1.00

00:32:09.000 Because we elected these leaders who you could say are terrorists on just a larger scale.

00:32:13.000 What makes someone a terrorist? 1.00

00:32:15.000 Killing a million Iraqis with all this fucking high-grade weaponry or blowing yourself up on an airplane? 1.00

00:32:20.000 I mean, it's comparable if you're looking at... 1.00

00:32:23.000 I would say that the Million Dead Iraqis would say that Bush was a terrorist.

00:32:27.000 One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

00:32:30.000 Yeah, it's easy to point.

00:32:31.000 It's easy to decide that someone's a terrorist and that label terrorist is such a- Right.

00:32:36.000 It's so vague and it's so easy to move around.

00:32:40.000 You could apply it to either side.

00:32:42.000 But the dehumanization of populations, my brother, Robbie Martin, he does journalism for Mediaroots.org, which is my other citizen journalism website, but we just published this article about the history of the term human shield, and it is really incredible because you look back at even World War II,

00:32:58.000 Japan, the Viet Cong, we all use this terminology, and there's really little evidence to ever back it up, and it always is when the establishment wants to paint a population as having little value to human life.

00:33:10.000 Even Bin Laden using his wives as human shields when we raided the compound, that turned out to be a lie.

00:33:16.000 The Taliban, they said that they used people as human shields shooting from civilian areas.

00:33:21.000 All of this never really has been proven, but when you repeat it more and more and more and more, people just say, oh, well, they're using their kids as human shields.

00:33:29.000 What are we supposed to do when we go in there and bomb them?

00:33:31.000 It's not our fault that the kids are dying. 0.99

00:33:33.000 Here's an even fucking crazier part. 0.99

00:33:34.000 I just remember this. 0.98

00:33:36.000 When we invaded Iraq, Bush...

00:33:38.000 Actually, so the CIA has this giant document on human shields and Saddam's use of human shields. 0.91

00:33:42.000 And Bush actually fucking had the audacity to go out on TV and say, just to warn you, there's going to be mass casualties when we invade Iraq.

00:33:49.000 And he was like, but it's going to be because Iraqis are going to be used as human shields. 0.98

00:33:53.000 He was like, the people who die, Saddam will be using them as human shields. 0.98

00:33:57.000 Like, how the fucking insane is that you're preemptively justifying slaughter by blaming the population that you're going to be bombing? 0.98

00:34:05.000 Sorry, I just got really upset. 0.99

00:34:06.000 Well, you should be. 0.97

00:34:07.000 You should be, because these tactics are ridiculous. 0.93

00:34:10.000 You know, and these tactics, they're a part of an ancient system. 0.89

00:34:16.000 This ancient system of justification of warfare.

00:34:16.000 Right.

00:34:19.000 And this ancient system, it really...

00:34:22.000 You know, for the longest time, it was incredibly difficult to decipher.

00:34:26.000 Incredibly difficult.

00:34:27.000 I mean, go back to the Roman days, try to figure out who's right and who's wrong.

00:34:30.000 Good luck.

00:34:31.000 What, are you going to find the right animal skin to read? 0.99

00:34:33.000 You know, where it has the fucking truth written down on it? 0.98

00:34:36.000 No, you couldn't possibly be there. 0.98

00:34:38.000 When the events transpired that caused the war itself, you couldn't possibly be in the tent where the war chiefs decided to fucking, you know, this is the attack we're going to do and this is the reason why we're going to do it.

00:34:51.000 No, you just were a part of the army or you were a part of the civilian population that had to endure whatever was going on.

00:34:58.000 You felt powerless. 1.00

00:34:58.000 You felt you had no information other than what was being spread through the state and you were fucked. 1.00

00:35:05.000 But now, we live in this different time. 0.99

00:35:08.000 And in this different time, you can watch a Dennis Prager video and go, Dennis Prager's a douchebag. 0.81

00:35:13.000 You can debate it.

00:35:14.000 You can look at the actual facts of the situation and people can be informed in a way that's really never been available before.

00:35:21.000 The Vietnam War protests were largely based on educational institutions.

00:35:28.000 It was largely based out of universities.

00:35:31.000 Where these liberal professors were trying to explain to people what the reality of the situation was. 1.00

00:35:36.000 And then parents were like, these fucking liberals are teaching my kids bullshit. 1.00

00:35:40.000 And then you had Kent State where the fucking military, the National Guard came in and shot student protesters and scared the fuck out of everybody. 1.00

00:35:48.000 I mean, there was so much chaos going on to try to suppress the spread of information. 0.99

00:35:53.000 To try to suppress dissent.

00:35:56.000 But today, the well is broken.

00:35:59.000 I mean, it's just there's no suppressing it anymore.

00:36:02.000 And we have these organizations that are scrambling to try to make sense of it all, that they're trying to justify their actions in light of this overwhelming amount of information that didn't exist before.

00:36:18.000 Exactly.

00:36:18.000 Social media, during Operation Cast Lead, which was, I think, I want to say 2009, but that was the last really brutal siege on Gaza, and we didn't have social media like we did.

00:36:29.000 I mean, they didn't have it back then like we do now, so I think they were able to control the narrative a little bit more, but now it's like the fucking floodgates are open, dude. 0.99

00:36:36.000 You can't deny seeing children's brains being blown out I mean, it's just, there's so much death and destruction on social media that you're just seeing the truth right in your fucking face. 0.98

00:36:46.000 It doesn't matter how many cartoon infographics you make up on the IDF side. 0.98

00:36:50.000 And going back to propaganda, I mean, Israel's just working 24-7 to try to spin this thing.

00:36:56.000 Not only is our media an abysmal failure in relaying what is actually happening, But they actually have, you know, first of all, there's the birthright trip where actually I think like 2,000 soldiers right now in the IDF are American because they go on these birthright trips and then they're told at the end of the trip,

00:37:13.000 like, come fight for us.

00:37:14.000 Like, you need, this is like, everyone wants to kill us still, you know, Jews need protection and come join the IDF. And it's just bizarre.

00:37:22.000 I can't imagine another army...

00:37:24.000 Well, actually, I can.

00:37:25.000 And they were called terrorists.

00:37:26.000 When people wanted to join, like, the Iraqi resistance and the Syrian resistance, we call them terrorists. 0.98

00:37:30.000 But if you're an American, you go fucking join the IDF, which is a colonial army. 0.99

00:37:34.000 Somehow, you're a fucking hero. 1.00

00:37:37.000 The Propaganda Machine's working 24-7. 0.99

00:37:39.000 They offer grants, scholarships for people who can do the most pro-Zionist editing on Wikipedia and edit the most Facebook posts and post the most pro-Tweets, pro-Israel tweets.

00:37:50.000 They offer free hot air balloon rides around Israel, Tel Aviv.

00:37:53.000 If you... 0.99

00:38:02.000 I mean, I doubt Hamas is offering, like, I doubt Hamas has the capability to offer that to all the fucking human shields in Gaza. 0.99

00:38:10.000 They don't even have pasta or chocolate. 0.98

00:38:11.000 How are they going to have hot air balloons? 0.50

00:38:13.000 They can't even make terrorist paper airplanes because they don't have the.2 paper.

00:38:18.000 But it just shows you how much is going into the spin machine on one side.

00:38:23.000 And I was invited on CNN last night and I was like shocked. 0.99

00:38:27.000 I was like, holy fuck, they're going to let me go on CNN and drop this truth on there? 0.99

00:38:31.000 And then they canceled. 0.99

00:38:31.000 I think they got some pressure because it was too good to be true. 0.99

00:38:35.000 Oh, good googly moogly.

00:38:37.000 Of course they did.

00:38:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:38:39.000 Someone was probably like, who are you fucking? 1.00

00:38:41.000 No, no, no, no, no. 1.00

00:38:42.000 What?

00:38:42.000 Jesus Christ.

00:38:44.000 Have you watched her videos? 1.00

00:38:45.000 That bitch is crazy. 1.00

00:38:47.000 She's got a nose ring. 1.00

00:38:49.000 Yeah.

00:38:50.000 This is a strange time when it comes to these sort of events.

00:38:56.000 Because they don't play out the way the military leaders sort of expect them to play out in the media anymore.

00:39:02.000 Because the media that's online is as big, if not bigger...

00:39:07.000 In total than the mainstream, in quotes, media.

00:39:10.000 There's no mainstream media anymore.

00:39:13.000 There's CNN, there's Fox, there's these traditional media outlets, which is the way to describe them, traditional media.

00:39:20.000 It's almost like their legacy.

00:39:22.000 It's like legacy media.

00:39:24.000 But then there's online media, which if you totaled up the amount of blogs, the amount of videos, the amount of online websites that have streaming video and podcasts and the different forms of media that exist...

00:39:40.000 That cover these same issues, it's overwhelmingly bigger.

00:39:45.000 Overwhelmingly.

00:39:45.000 The numbers are much larger.

00:39:47.000 For the cumulative total of websites that cover these stories, it's much more people are downloading, clicking on those links, reading those stories.

00:39:58.000 Watching those videos than you're getting ever on a CNN broadcast.

00:40:02.000 Absolutely.

00:40:03.000 That's why I didn't even care when they canceled it. 0.97

00:40:04.000 I was like, fuck it, I'm going on Joe Rogan's show tomorrow and that has a million times more just like people who I would even want to be reaching out to. 0.99

00:40:11.000 Like, would I want to reach out to like old ladies in their home watching fucking Fox? 1.00

00:40:15.000 Or do I want to reach out to people who actually, you know, have their eye on the ball or like invested in the culture and what the fuck's happening in this country and that's your audience and... 0.99

00:40:23.000 It's just really cool. 0.99

00:40:24.000 I mean, being at your show last night and seeing just like how many people give a shit and are paying attention to you and the podcast and fuck CNN. We're driving them into irrelevancy, man. 1.00

00:40:35.000 I mean, your show and all the social media stuff.

00:40:38.000 These people, it's dinosaurs.

00:40:40.000 They're silent movies.

00:40:41.000 It's a silent movie is what it is.

00:40:43.000 The format is archaic.

00:40:46.000 We'll be right back. 0.99

00:40:47.000 And these fucking things drive me crazy when they have a legitimate issue to debate and they have four squares like it's the fucking Hollywood squares and Rip Taylor's up in the corner and he's like, this is crazy! 1.00

00:40:59.000 She's nuts! 1.00

00:41:00.000 And then you have all these other people and they're yelling over each other and like, we'll be right back. 0.96

00:41:04.000 Thank you for your time.

00:41:05.000 We have to cut to Justin Bieber.

00:41:07.000 He just got back in court.

00:41:09.000 I mean, that's what they actually did.

00:41:09.000 They cut from a congresswoman, I think CNN or something, was cutting.

00:41:12.000 He was talking to a congresswoman about the NSA and then they're like, Hold on, breaking news.

00:41:16.000 Justin Bieber just like pled something.

00:41:18.000 I was like, what?

00:41:20.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:41:22.000 Yeah, I mean, if I could just say one thing so people don't call me a Nazi and shit is that I love all people. 0.89

00:41:29.000 I think all human beings. 0.97

00:41:30.000 I just want to see humanity have equality and I just think that the Palestinians are being royally fucked over and I'm just totally disgusted with the way that it's being portrayed and that they're being vilified and demonized with zero context and zero historical context of how this happened.

00:41:44.000 And that's why I'm just like trying to just say as much as I can, even though I'm very biased and openly biased. 0.70

00:41:51.000 I'm an advocacy journalist and I just think that it needs to be done because I see just a giant void in the mainstream. 0.97

00:41:59.000 And I just got to fucking do it. 0.83

00:42:00.000 I mean, I interviewed some woman in Gaza who she was just like, I could be called a human shield because I'm refusing to leave my house. 0.98

00:42:06.000 And she's like, and the truth is there's nowhere for us to go.

00:42:08.000 We can't leave.

00:42:10.000 45 miles and that many people stuffed in together.

00:42:10.000 Yeah.

00:42:13.000 The options are incredibly limited.

00:42:15.000 And if anybody in that area really wants to have peace, this idea that you contain these people is almost like ensuring that you're going to have some sort of constant conflict.

00:42:29.000 I don't know what to do, though, but what are you going to do?

00:42:31.000 Are you going to let those people out of Gaza? 1.00

00:42:35.000 Say if the Jews and the Palestinians come to an agreement and then they open the borders and then the Palestinians come over to Israel and they seek revenge for their family members that have died.

00:42:46.000 And then it all starts all over again.

00:42:48.000 I mean, once thousands of people have been killed and, in their eyes, murdered, You can say military action. 1.00

00:42:56.000 Use whatever noises with your face to describe a missile hitting a fucking baby. 1.00

00:43:01.000 But it is what it is. 1.00

00:43:02.000 And if that's my baby, I'm strapping some C4 to my chest, and I'm going to find out who did it, and I'm going to take out the whole group. 1.00

00:43:08.000 I mean, that's probably what they're thinking.

00:43:11.000 And there's going to be a lot of those people.

00:43:12.000 There's a lot of those people that are filled with despair.

00:43:14.000 And what are their options?

00:43:16.000 I don't know.

00:43:17.000 I don't know.

00:43:17.000 It's a very good point, and I think that's the reason why these 120 people are still languishing innocent in Gitmo.

00:43:23.000 Because at this point, they're like, what the fuck are we going to do? 0.93

00:43:24.000 Release these people? 0.99

00:43:25.000 We just tortured them for 12 years.

00:43:27.000 Well, we tortured some folks.

00:43:29.000 We tortured some folks. 1.00

00:43:30.000 Did you see that fucking thing? 1.00

00:43:31.000 Tortured some folks. 1.00

00:43:31.000 Oh my god. 1.00

00:43:32.000 If you haven't seen it, folks, ladies and gentlemen, there is a recent thing where Barack Obama is talking about people being tortured, and he uses the term, well, we tortured some folks after the September 11 attacks.

00:43:50.000 We tortured some folks? 1.00

00:43:53.000 No, you can't say that.

00:43:55.000 You can say, we met some folks.

00:43:56.000 You know, we went to Atlanta.

00:44:00.000 We met some nice folks.

00:44:01.000 You don't say, we tortured some folks. 0.98

00:44:03.000 Like, what kind of fucking weird euphemism speak is that? 0.98

00:44:07.000 We tortured some folks. 0.98

00:44:08.000 So that's become a hashtag on Twitter now.

00:44:11.000 Hashtag, we tortured some folks.

00:44:13.000 Hashtag, drone king.

00:44:14.000 Yeah, that is what's going on.

00:44:15.000 I'm not kidding.

00:44:17.000 That's trending.

00:44:18.000 Hashtag, we tortured some folks.

00:44:20.000 I'm not kidding.

00:44:21.000 And that's exactly what's happening with the drone wars. 0.99

00:44:26.000 Look, these fucking Taliban militants just took over this airport in Karachi, killed a shitload of people. 0.99

00:44:31.000 And why? 1.00

00:44:32.000 Because they said that a drone fucking killed one of their leaders in fucking the rural area of It's like, this is going to be going on forever. 0.99

00:44:45.000 When you kill people with drones, when you fucking imprison people in a little area, I mean, it's just going to be a cycle of violence and revenge and hate. 0.98

00:44:54.000 And that's why I just completely disagree with, of course, the drone war. 1.00

00:44:58.000 I disagree with all that shit, man. 1.00

00:45:00.000 Obamas are spooky. 1.00

00:45:01.000 It's a spooky idea that you're nowhere near there, and you have a remote control, and you press a button, and missiles that are called Hellfire missiles come flying out of the sky and slam into targets.

00:45:14.000 Often the wrong ones. 0.98

00:45:16.000 And if you look at the amount of people that are innocent that have been killed by drones versus the amount of actual terrorists that have been killed by drones, what a fucking mess that program is. 0.98

00:45:26.000 And they also just call them militants. 0.98

00:45:27.000 Anyone who's just aged, like literally military age, so it could be 15 to fucking 100. If you're a military age male, you're considered a militant. 0.90

00:45:36.000 So who are, I mean, I don't know.

00:45:38.000 Yeah, I don't know who's even, like, I'm sure the majority of them are civilians. 0.99

00:45:41.000 If you have enough dirt on someone where you actually, they're worthy of being executed, put them on fucking trial. 0.98

00:45:47.000 I'm sorry, but I believe in the rule and justice. 0.99

00:45:50.000 I don't believe in just assassinating motherfuckers across the globe with zero accountability, zero context of who these people are. 0.99

00:45:57.000 And we know that they've executed fucking, like, that 16-year-old boy, the son of Anwar al-Awlaki. 0.99

00:46:03.000 16-year-old kid, blew him up in a drone, him and his whole family just dead. 0.99

00:46:03.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:46:07.000 No accountability, no rationale. 0.99

00:46:09.000 And, you know, they're just all terrorists, I guess.

00:46:11.000 That just makes us feel better, I guess, to think that.

00:46:14.000 In Pakistan alone, between 416 and 951 civilians, including 168 to 200 children, have been killed, depending upon reports.

00:46:27.000 And, you know, who knows what the numbers, the correct numbers are? 0.97

00:46:30.000 I mean, first of all, you got a real problem with incredibly poor people where you hit a fucking house where they live in and there's no paperwork and they're blown to smithereens. 0.96

00:46:40.000 Like, how many people are there? 0.99

00:46:41.000 You were going to have to find the family members.

00:46:43.000 You're going to report and tell you how many.

00:46:45.000 And it's, you know, that's why you're getting these weird numbers.

00:46:48.000 But the bottom line is...

00:46:49.000 I think?

00:46:55.000 Yeah.

00:47:09.000 It's like conducting intelligence on the ground, figuring out what people deserve to die or not. 1.00

00:47:13.000 It's actually fucking tracking metadata on a fucking computer screen. 0.99

00:47:18.000 That is insane to me, because what if you give your cell phone to your grandma, and the cell phone's in your grandma's house or a church? 1.00

00:47:24.000 They're gonna fucking blow the shit out of that church. 1.00

00:47:26.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:47:26.000 They're gonna blow your grandma apart. 1.00

00:47:27.000 They're targeting wherever that phone is. 0.83

00:47:29.000 Exactly.

00:47:29.000 And if you really hated somebody, you just leave your phone over their house.

00:47:33.000 Hellfire is coming.

00:47:35.000 Yeah, it's not that specific.

00:47:37.000 And so the idea of the, this is the word that gets thrown around a lot, surgical strikes.

00:47:41.000 I mean, you want to talk about surgical precision. 0.99

00:47:45.000 You don't usually talk about missiles that hit metadata where a phone is and it's a hit in a fucking apartment building. 0.98

00:47:53.000 You're just going to blow up whoever happens to randomly be near this phone. 0.99

00:47:58.000 Collateral damage, man.

00:47:59.000 And going back to what do we do?

00:48:01.000 I mean, I think that we end the apartheid state.

00:48:04.000 We start giving Arabs equal rights.

00:48:05.000 But I think that the U.S. cutting off funding militarily, I think, is the number one thing.

00:48:09.000 I mean, for God's sake, there's been blatant war crimes that have happened.

00:48:12.000 Hitting the U.N. refugee school, killing 17 human beings that were trying to get refuge.

00:48:17.000 During a humanitarian ceasefire, they bombed a crowded market, killing another 17. They've killed like six journalists, targeted all these media centers.

00:48:24.000 And then there was the UN Security Council where every single country either abstained or voted to investigate war crimes in Gaza, except the US. Except the US. That's how blind this allegiance is.

00:48:36.000 And if we could just end this military funding, I think then Israel would be forced to kind of analyze their role and we can really talk seriously about solutions here because it's not going to work.

00:48:47.000 Yeah, you're not anti-Israel.

00:48:49.000 You're anti-war.

00:48:50.000 I have a lot of friends that are Jewish, and a lot of them have very strong opinions about this whole thing.

00:48:58.000 I see it from their point of view.

00:49:00.000 They grew up with this idea that the Palestinians are terrorists, and the Palestinians kidnapped Jews, and you remember the Olympic Games and all this craziness.

00:49:09.000 I see their point of view, but as an objective human observer, When you watch this, you go, there has got to be a way to break this cycle.

00:49:17.000 And the way is not missiles.

00:49:19.000 And it's not blowing up tunnels.

00:49:21.000 And it's not keeping these people on a strip of land.

00:49:24.000 I don't know what the way is.

00:49:26.000 You know, that's the problem. 1.00

00:49:27.000 I'm talking a lot of shit here. 0.99

00:49:28.000 I don't have any solutions. 0.99

00:49:29.000 But it's scary. 0.99

00:49:31.000 It's scary as fuck. 0.99

00:49:32.000 And then you've got Russia that may be invading Ukraine right now. 0.99

00:49:37.000 I mean, as we speak, this weekend that might be going down.

00:49:40.000 You know, there's a bunch of points all over the earth. 0.98

00:49:42.000 Where there's some scary shit that's happening. 0.96

00:49:45.000 This is a scary time. 0.99

00:49:47.000 It's a very scary time.

00:49:48.000 Because human beings have so much more capacity for violence.

00:49:56.000 Our ability, when you have things like drones, when you have things like long-range missiles and nuclear weapons and all these different things that just didn't exist 100 years ago, but you still have the same mentality that existed 100 years ago.

00:50:09.000 That's the real issue, right?

00:50:09.000 Exactly.

00:50:11.000 I mean, a hundred years ago, you had to fucking get in a boat and you had to get over there in a plane with a propeller and it was hard to fuck shit up. 0.99

00:50:19.000 Now you can be in Nevada with a fucking Xbox controller and you're launching missiles from the other side of the world. 1.00

00:50:28.000 It gets real weird when it becomes easy to kill. 0.99

00:50:32.000 And when you're so delusional that you think that you are literally chosen by God to live more than another human being, and then you have these weapons at your arsenal.

00:50:40.000 That's what's scary to me. 1.00

00:50:41.000 That's goofy as fuck. 0.99

00:50:42.000 That is unbelievably goofy. 1.00

00:50:44.000 And that's the thing that, you know, when you talk to Jewish people, that's, you know, that's my faith and my undeniable right to have this faith. 0.90

00:50:51.000 That's my Dennis Prager voice.

00:50:53.000 My faith, my undeniable right for a Jewish state. 0.99

00:50:57.000 Look, undeniably, there's so much fucking anti-Semitism online. 1.00

00:51:00.000 It's disgusting. 1.00

00:51:01.000 It's vile. 0.98

00:51:02.000 And there's obviously Jews have been persecuted horribly in the past.

00:51:06.000 And, you know, it's awful, but it's not a reason or justification to do this to another population.

00:51:13.000 No, you know, it's not.

00:51:14.000 And it's only going to make more anti-Semitism.

00:51:17.000 It's so unfortunate.

00:51:19.000 Attacking Palestinians and having the outside world look at this happen. 1.00

00:51:23.000 And also, look, when Palestinians attack Israelis, that shit ain't helping either, man. 1.00

00:51:29.000 Right. 1.00

00:51:30.000 But it's a terribly imbalanced situation.

00:51:35.000 A terribly, terribly imbalanced situation.

00:51:37.000 It's imbalanced that Israel feels like it's completely surrounded by these Arab states, these Muslim states that hate it and want it gone. 1.00

00:51:44.000 That's incredibly imbalanced as well.

00:51:46.000 And that's also a religious issue. 0.99

00:51:49.000 They're just as goofy. 0.99

00:51:52.000 It's all goofy. 0.99

00:51:53.000 This idea that your ideology, your religious ideology, based on some ancient shit that nobody knows the real source of, is more important or more valid than someone else's. 1.00

00:52:06.000 It's all fucking madness. 1.00

00:52:08.000 And look at us. 1.00

00:52:09.000 Look at the Christian culture here.

00:52:10.000 The evangelicals.

00:52:12.000 Dude, I just saw...

00:52:13.000 I don't know if you've been watching John Oliver.

00:52:14.000 I really like his show.

00:52:15.000 But he had on this stuff about the Uganda gay law. 0.99

00:52:18.000 And you're like, oh wow, that's so fucked up. 1.00

00:52:19.000 Uganda has such horrible gay laws. 0.99

00:52:21.000 And then you realize that it's because of the evangelicals here in this country that they've basically been emboldened because the political establishment for some reason takes them seriously enough to let them have such a say. 0.99

00:52:31.000 And it's driven all of our politics of the fucking right so much. 0.80

00:52:35.000 And so then these evangelicals I think? 0.93

00:52:59.000 And that's really scary because for some reason they're relevant here.

00:53:02.000 And I'm not saying, of course, if you're Christian, I'm not talking about that. 1.00

00:53:05.000 I'm talking about the very, very, very right-wing, very small minority that have an extremely powerful political voice because they have so much money. 0.99

00:53:16.000 And it gets people like Mitt Romney and fucking Rick Santorum. 1.00

00:53:21.000 Yeah, what a goof. 1.00

00:53:22.000 I mean, the fact that those people are even relevant, the fact that we almost had that as our president, like, look, I think Obama's a war criminal, but Mitt Romney's, I mean, damn. 1.00

00:53:30.000 I mean, these people are just nuts. 1.00

00:53:32.000 Sarah Palin? 1.00

00:53:33.000 Yeah.

00:53:33.000 These people should not be anywhere near politics!

00:53:37.000 They're fucking crazy! 1.00

00:53:38.000 Mitt Romney, for folks who don't know, is a part of one of the most extreme Mormon sects ever. 1.00

00:53:42.000 They left the country to go to Mexico because they couldn't have a hundred wives here in America. 1.00

00:53:47.000 That's literally why Mitt Romney's family, his dad couldn't be president because his dad was born in fucking Mexico. 1.00

00:53:54.000 His family is from Mexico. 1.00

00:53:56.000 They have a giant compound in Mexico where they're engaged in these wars with the drug cartels. 1.00

00:54:02.000 They get kidnapped and shit. 0.98

00:54:04.000 Vice did this whole piece on it. 1.00

00:54:05.000 It's incredibly fucked up. 0.99

00:54:08.000 And Mitt Romney, no one talked about it. 1.00

00:54:11.000 My Mormonism is off the table.

00:54:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.97

00:54:14.000 You're like, actually, that's pretty fucking important. 0.99

00:54:16.000 No, it's on the table as fuck, dude. 0.99

00:54:18.000 You know, you might keep it off the table on your goofy legacy television shows and all these ridiculous things that you do, these ridiculous debates where everything's controlled. 1.00

00:54:28.000 If I was ever in a debate with that guy, the first thing I would say is, you really believe Joseph Smith, a 14-year-old boy, found golden tablets that contained the lost work of Jesus, but only he could read them because he had a magic rock.

00:54:40.000 And then he had to bury him, and then no one else can see him. 0.99

00:54:42.000 Get the fuck out of here, dude. 0.99

00:54:43.000 I would literally say, get the fuck out of here on TV. You're in a cult. 1.00

00:54:46.000 Right.

00:54:47.000 Yeah.

00:54:47.000 Cults are big sometimes.

00:54:49.000 Right. 1.00

00:54:50.000 Sometimes cults only have 30 people, and you live in the fucking San Fernando Valley in a weird shelter. 0.99

00:54:55.000 Right. 0.98

00:54:55.000 And sometimes cults have a billion people. 0.98

00:54:58.000 And you got a guy called the Pope and he sits on a fucking golden throne. 0.99

00:55:02.000 Guess what? 1.00

00:55:03.000 That guy's a fucking cult leader. 1.00

00:55:04.000 Maybe the new one's the best one ever because he's sweet and he's a man of the people and he's so proletariat. 1.00

00:55:10.000 Look at him.

00:55:11.000 He's an awesome Pope.

00:55:11.000 He's a regular guy.

00:55:13.000 No, he's not! 1.00

00:55:14.000 He's a fucking cult leader! 1.00

00:55:15.000 He's just a better cult leader than that creepy fuck that came before him that sat on a golden throne, you know, and had a gay bathhouse in the same property as the Vatican. 1.00

00:55:26.000 Yeah, exactly! 1.00

00:55:27.000 Thank you for bringing that up. 0.97

00:55:27.000 Well, I know L. Ron Hubbard's great-grandson, he lives in Oakland, and he was telling me that it's very openly admitted, and his great-grandfather wrote it in fucking books and shit, that he was in tax trouble and he needed to start a religion to, like, get out of this fucking tax trouble. 0.97

00:55:40.000 He was gonna go to jail. 0.98

00:55:41.000 He owed... 0.99

00:55:42.000 Tons of money to the government, and he even said, like, I'm going to start a fucking religion and get myself out of these, like, tax problems, and wow, here you go. 0.99

00:55:50.000 Yeah, he did it. 0.99

00:55:51.000 And to think that Scientology is any less valid than Mormonism, or that Mormonism is any less valid than a religion that is based on a Jewish zombie, all of it's silly, man. 0.98

00:56:05.000 And it's not saying that there's no God. 0.98

00:56:07.000 It's not saying that spirituality doesn't...

00:56:10.000 Have some sort of a benefit to our society and our culture and this idea of a greater thing other than people, this greater power, whatever it may be that created the universe, because there is something that runs this world, is something that runs this universe. 0.91

00:56:24.000 You want to give it scientific terms, you want to give it philosophical terms, whatever it is, there's obviously a giant energy that has created this massive fucking universe.

00:56:34.000 Whether it has a consciousness or not, you could debate it all day long.

00:56:38.000 But I'm guessing that a dude didn't die and then three days later come out and push a rock aside and, you know, come on.

00:56:46.000 It's the myths that hold society together.

00:56:49.000 It's all these fables and myths that are the glue.

00:56:52.000 And you're talking about how we haven't really changed. 0.97

00:56:54.000 We fucking haven't, dude. 0.98

00:56:56.000 I just saw a poll that basically if a president was atheist, that would be like the least favorable factor of like any candidate running for president is if they didn't believe in God. 0.98

00:57:05.000 That's how important religion still is to society. 0.97

00:57:08.000 And I think that even it's like we were saying last night at the comedy show, you can show someone proof that Bigfoot, that this video is fucking fake and they still want to believe it. 0.98

00:57:17.000 They believe. 0.94

00:57:17.000 It doesn't matter if you just say like, look, Jonah couldn't have survived inside of a whale for three days. 0.94

00:57:22.000 It's just not scientifically possible.

00:57:23.000 Well, the whales were different back then.

00:57:25.000 They had condos.

00:57:26.000 They had condos in the whales.

00:57:28.000 Yeah, people are weird, man.

00:57:30.000 They're weird with their beliefs.

00:57:31.000 And what's weird is as long as something's old, we'll accept it. 1.00

00:57:34.000 But if you tried to come out today with some Jewish zombie story, people would be like, what is this asshole doing? 1.00

00:57:40.000 They'd put you on pills. 1.00

00:57:40.000 They'd lock you up. 1.00

00:57:41.000 They'd be like, go down psychoactive medicine.

00:57:43.000 Yeah, if you were standing in the middle of all the people in Occupy Wall Street and you had a chart and you were holding up this chart, this is how the earth was formed.

00:57:55.000 6,000 years ago.

00:57:57.000 Sign up to my religion!

00:57:58.000 In six days, he created this.

00:57:58.000 Here!

00:58:01.000 He'd be like, bitch, are you out of your fucking mind? 1.00

00:58:03.000 If everybody just believed wholeheartedly in science, if we had completely abandoned all religion and then you came along with aversion, nobody would take it. 1.00

00:58:11.000 It has to be old.

00:58:12.000 It has to be old. 1.00

00:58:13.000 But when it's old, we'll accept goofy shit. 1.00

00:58:17.000 Goofy shit. 1.00

00:58:18.000 And even though so much fucking shit has come out since then, even though we have the internet, we have the world's knowledge at our fingertips, we still believe in these archaic philosophies that do not apply anymore. 1.00

00:58:28.000 Dude, did you hear about the Blackwater shit that came out? 0.99

00:58:31.000 You know Blackwater, the most criminal mafia organization, and somehow the... 1.00

00:58:35.000 Mercenaries. 1.00

00:58:36.000 Yeah, they're fucking mercenaries. 1.00

00:58:37.000 I had a friend who worked for them. 1.00

00:58:38.000 Really? 1.00

00:58:39.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:58:39.000 Went over there and did a couple tours. 0.99

00:58:39.000 Mm-hmm. 0.99

00:58:40.000 Yeah?

00:58:41.000 Yeah, he was a marine sniper and then wanted to make some more money after the war.

00:58:45.000 Wanted to make a lot more money.

00:58:46.000 Yeah, made a lot more money than he did for the army.

00:58:48.000 Did a couple tours, opened up an MMA gym with it.

00:58:51.000 That's cool, man.

00:58:52.000 Not really. 1.00

00:58:54.000 Go over there and kill some people. 1.00

00:58:56.000 Okay, no, that's fucked up. 1.00

00:58:57.000 I mean, that's what you do. 0.98

00:58:58.000 I mean, I'm just trying to be nice.

00:58:59.000 I think anyone in Glavackwater is a criminal. 1.00

00:59:01.000 But Eric Prince, the guy who founded it, actually did think that he was ordained by God to, like, fucking, like, kill Muslims. 0.99

00:59:08.000 Like, he thought that he was carrying out a holy war. 0.99

00:59:10.000 So, what did we do? 0.99

00:59:11.000 We hired this company, sent them over to fucking Iraq. 1.00

00:59:14.000 They massacre God knows how many people. 1.00

00:59:17.000 But that's not the crazy part.

00:59:19.000 The crazy part that just came out is that basically we went over to investigate them. 0.99

00:59:26.000 And the State Department official went over to Iraq right before the Nasser Square Massacre, which is when they just went out with fucking machine guns and just slaughtered 17 fucking women and children on the street. 0.99

00:59:37.000 Before that even happened, a State Department official went over to Iraq and they're like, yo, yo, yo, this company is out of fucking control. 1.00

00:59:43.000 You guys are just crashing into cars, running over people, shooting fucking birds in the sky and shit. 0.99

00:59:49.000 So they meet with the embassy and they're like, we need to... 1.00

00:59:53.000 You know, this contractor that we hired is basically running our operation.

00:59:57.000 What did they do? 1.00

00:59:58.000 The Blackwater guy there just said, I'm gonna fucking kill you. 1.00

01:00:01.000 We're gonna kill you if you do anything. 1.00

01:00:03.000 And he fucking left terrified. 1.00

01:00:05.000 He told the embassy, he was like, they're threatening to kill me. 0.99

01:00:07.000 And they're like, get out.

01:00:08.000 They're like, you're threatening our relationship now with Blackwater.

01:00:11.000 Yeah, get out. 0.98

01:00:12.000 And he fucking came back to the U.S. Well, they're beyond the law. 0.99

01:00:17.000 That's what's really crazy. 0.99

01:00:18.000 A lot of the things that were done by Blackwater, these war crimes, they changed their name a couple times since then.

01:00:25.000 And now I believe they're owned by the United Arab Emirates.

01:00:28.000 I think they hired Prince to start another organization because they were worried about an Arab Spring event happening over there.

01:00:35.000 He's provided safe harbor in Abu Dhabi and they...

01:00:38.000 Something like...

01:00:39.000 Is it Abu Dhabi?

01:00:40.000 Yeah, he's in Abu Dhabi, and he did start...

01:00:42.000 Triple Canopy, that's what they just merged with.

01:00:44.000 So before it was Blackwater, then Academy, and then Z. Yeah, right.

01:00:48.000 And then after the story came out, all these other people came out anonymously inside Blackwater or ex-officials, and they're like, no, we, like...

01:00:56.000 Eric Prince has, like, killed people. 1.00

01:00:57.000 Like, Eric Prince has put out hits on motherfuckers. 1.00

01:00:59.000 Like, we know this for sure, and we're fucking terrified to come out and actually put our identities because we might die too. 1.00

01:01:05.000 Like, that's how insane this dude is! 0.98

01:01:06.000 And he's just living... 0.84

01:01:08.000 Still making contracts with the government. 0.98

01:01:09.000 The CIA just gave Blackwater, whatever the fuck they're called now, another contract earlier this year. 0.94

01:01:14.000 Well, they're very effective. 0.98

01:01:15.000 Really good at their job. 0.95

01:01:17.000 I mean, this day and age, it's hard to get people to shut the fuck up about things, but boy, those guys know how to shut people up. 0.61

01:01:23.000 Yeah. 0.53

01:01:24.000 Especially when you can do things that are completely outside of the jurisdiction of any laws.

01:01:30.000 I mean, that word contractor is so cute.

01:01:30.000 Ours, theirs.

01:01:32.000 Because I always think of a plumber or a guy who's going to fucking fix your roof. 0.95

01:01:37.000 That's a contractor. 0.99

01:01:39.000 Like, wait, well, those contractors also have fucking sniper rifles? 1.00

01:01:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:01:43.000 Like, what?

01:01:44.000 That's a contractor?

01:01:45.000 Oh, okay.

01:01:46.000 Like, you know, like, when you heard, that was one of the things that kept, like, when that Fallujah thing happened, and they hung those contractors, the United States contractors, like, I was like, why are they killing construction workers?

01:02:00.000 They're killing contractors?

01:02:01.000 And then you realize, like, oh, no, no, they're killing mercenaries.

01:02:05.000 Right. 0.61

01:02:06.000 They're killing hired assassins. 0.52

01:02:08.000 Oh, that's different.

01:02:11.000 That's like insurgent. 0.98

01:02:12.000 We killed some insurgents.

01:02:14.000 What is that?

01:02:14.000 Oh, people that are resisting.

01:02:15.000 They were born in this place that we showed up with tanks, and they're resisting, so they're insurgents.

01:02:21.000 Oh, they're not just people that live there?

01:02:24.000 Now they're militants.

01:02:24.000 Right.

01:02:25.000 Yeah, well, we can...

01:02:27.000 Throughout history, people have had this incredible ability to dehumanize with terms.

01:02:34.000 You can just call them something and then they become the enemy or categorize them. 1.00

01:02:39.000 What Genghis Khan used to do, anybody who didn't live in a tent was a bitch. 1.00

01:02:45.000 These dummies that lived in these cities, they just treated them like cattle. 1.00

01:02:49.000 That was why they were able to justify killing millions and millions of people. 0.53

01:02:53.000 And that's just one of the things that people have figured out a way to do.

01:02:56.000 Us versus them. 1.00

01:02:58.000 We love it.

01:02:58.000 We love...

01:02:59.000 I fucking hate Windows users, you know? 0.99

01:03:02.000 I'm a Mac till I die. 1.00

01:03:04.000 I mean, it gets that dumb. 0.99

01:03:06.000 We literally... 0.98

01:03:07.000 Ford versus Chevy. 0.99

01:03:08.000 I saw a fucking Calvin and Hobbes thing. 1.00

01:03:12.000 Pissing on a... 1.00

01:03:13.000 Yeah, pissing on a Chevy logo. 0.98

01:03:15.000 Like, he's standing on a Ford logo and he's pissing on a Chevy logo. 1.00

01:03:18.000 If I had a fucking drone with Hellfire missiles, I might launch it at that fucking guy. 1.00

01:03:24.000 I want to launch it at anyone who has the fake balls on their truck. 1.00

01:03:28.000 Well, those could just be misguided youth. 0.99

01:03:30.000 You know? 0.97

01:03:31.000 If you gave me some of those fake balls when I was 18, I might have put them on my car. 1.00

01:03:31.000 Shit. 1.00

01:03:35.000 I was retarded. 1.00

01:03:36.000 You know? 0.94

01:03:38.000 But Calvin and Hobbes pissing on a Ford logo. 1.00

01:03:41.000 Jesus fucking Christ. 0.99

01:03:43.000 But there's people that are like, this is Chevy country. 1.00

01:03:45.000 If you listen quiet, you can hear a Ford rust. 1.00

01:03:48.000 Like, there's fucking bumper stickers like that. 1.00

01:03:51.000 People love to be on goddamn teams. 1.00

01:03:54.000 Unite blue. 1.00

01:03:55.000 Unite red.

01:03:56.000 We're weird.

01:03:57.000 We're really weird like that. 0.87

01:03:58.000 Well, and what better way to control the population, to have these fake teams of political parties that essentially there's total uniformity when it comes to foreign policy and the militarization of this country and surveillance and all that shit, but then you just have these minute differences in terms of... 0.59

01:04:16.000 I'm not saying that they're null and void. 0.97

01:04:19.000 Obviously there's things that are very good about the differences, but on a big scale, it's essentially you're driving the fucking country to the ground. 0.50

01:04:28.000 Yeah, I think it's like what they're doing is taking advantage of these ingrained tribal sensibilities that have been with us since we were in these small groups of people that had to worry about other small groups of people.

01:04:42.000 Like we were just talking about this the other day that this is like one of the first times in human history where if a boatload of people show up, it's a good thing. 0.99

01:04:52.000 It used to be when a boat showed up, you're fucked. 0.99

01:04:55.000 Men are going to get off that boat. 1.00

01:04:57.000 They haven't seen pussy in a hundred years. 1.00

01:04:59.000 They have guns. 1.00

01:05:00.000 They have no food.

01:05:01.000 They all have rickets. 1.00

01:05:02.000 They all have scurvy and shit. 1.00

01:05:04.000 And they're just going to fucking shoot arrows at everybody and rape everybody and take all your food and light everything on fire. 1.00

01:05:10.000 I mean, that's what people did. 1.00

01:05:11.000 Now they're tourists.

01:05:13.000 It's a very weird time that we live in.

01:05:16.000 It's very unique in that sense.

01:05:18.000 That's never happened before.

01:05:20.000 So I think there's a slight erosion of this tribal attitude that people used to have.

01:05:27.000 And it's because of access, because we can go to places that we couldn't go to before, much easier.

01:05:32.000 And it's also because of information.

01:05:35.000 When you have enough of these kind of conversations, and there's enough articles that are written on the web, there's enough conversations, like real, legitimate, objective conversations between people that actually know what's going on, where they go over the...

01:05:48.000 The facts on both sides and try to come to some sort of a rational, unbiased conclusion.

01:05:54.000 It changes the culture.

01:05:56.000 I mean, slowly but surely, access changes the culture.

01:05:59.000 Access to areas changes and access to information changes.

01:06:03.000 We're a part of that.

01:06:04.000 It's all going on right now.

01:06:05.000 And that's why this younger generation, these people that are growing up with no idea of life without the internet, we're completely repulsed by these things that are happening.

01:06:20.000 I think the people that, if you polled young people today in America, in Canada, in places where there's no conflict, and they don't have this ingrained sensibility that's due to having family members being murdered in front of them, And you ask them about nationalism.

01:06:35.000 I think their attitudes will be radically different than people that lived 100 years ago.

01:06:40.000 Totally.

01:06:41.000 Yeah, I think it's the homogenization of culture and it's the internet. 0.84

01:06:44.000 I mean, where else can you just see a guy getting raped by a horse and dying other than the internet?

01:06:48.000 I mean, 100 years ago, we'd never been able to see that.

01:06:50.000 But I think it's true.

01:06:51.000 I think nationalism, I think people are realizing how toxic it is.

01:06:55.000 And the more that they travel and the more that they reach out online to people across the world and they see that we're all fucking human, we all bleed the same, we all suffer loss the same way.

01:07:05.000 And there's only so much you can do to indoctrinate someone to think that someone else is a lesser human being than you.

01:07:10.000 And I think that the more we learn about what's going on, and the more access we have, that's going to really, really erode. 0.99

01:07:18.000 Fuck, I mean, the old guard is holding on. 1.00

01:07:20.000 They're clinging on to that, man. 1.00

01:07:21.000 They're trying.

01:07:22.000 They're clinging on.

01:07:23.000 Well, ideology is the only thing that glues everything in place still.

01:07:26.000 Like, when you have something like ISIS or you have, like, this Palestinian versus Israel conflict, the ideology of religion is one of the few things that unites people in this sort of very...

01:07:38.000 Very rock-solid position.

01:07:41.000 It's very hard to do when you have an agnostic population. 1.00

01:07:46.000 It's very difficult to get them to just accept that these people in Canada are douchebags and we need to go over there and fucking take their pine trees. 0.99

01:07:55.000 It just doesn't make any sense, you know? 0.99

01:07:57.000 People would be like, what?

01:07:58.000 We're going to go to war with Canada?

01:07:59.000 Right. 0.99

01:08:00.000 Can you imagine if for some reason we found, you know, this supply of diamonds or whatever the fuck it is in Canada and all of a sudden, you know, we started talking about Canadian terrorism and like, what? 0.98

01:08:10.000 Like, we're going to go over to Canada? 0.99

01:08:12.000 Like, you know, people would be like, get the fuck out of here. 0.99

01:08:14.000 They're like, but they look like us. 1.00

01:08:15.000 How could they be evil?

01:08:16.000 Well, this is the first time ever in my life I can recall the public's opposition to military action stopping military action, like Syria.

01:08:26.000 Right.

01:08:27.000 Like, when was the last time? 0.99

01:08:28.000 Listen, put your hand, cup your hand in your ear, and listen in the news for anything about fucking invading Syria. 0.99

01:08:34.000 It doesn't exist anymore. 0.98

01:08:35.000 The conflict, the idea of the dialogue of going over there and military action, it's gone.

01:08:42.000 It's gone. 0.98

01:08:43.000 Because the overwhelming reaction to that goofy fucking President Obama speech, left and right, people are like, what? 0.99

01:08:51.000 You're gonna put our children at risk? 1.00

01:08:53.000 You're gonna send children over to fucking Syria for what? 1.00

01:08:56.000 For what's going on over there? 1.00

01:08:58.000 Oh, someone used gas?

01:08:59.000 Oh, okay.

01:09:00.000 Yeah, why is that the red line? 0.97

01:09:01.000 What about the 150,000 people who died at the hands of Assad and all these rebels and all this shit before that? 0.69

01:09:06.000 It's like, why do we have these arbitrary, quote, red lines where that's when we need to go and impose military action? 0.99

01:09:12.000 Like, what the fuck is that about? 0.96

01:09:13.000 I would love to have been in the room when they talked to Obama and they're making that speech. 0.99

01:09:13.000 What? 0.99

01:09:16.000 And that's why I'm terrified of Hillary Clinton, man. 1.00

01:09:16.000 Right. 1.00

01:09:20.000 Because if you read some articles about who's really like...

01:09:24.000 I mean, I think Obama, once again, he's a worker and he's a horrible president. 1.00

01:09:28.000 But Hillary's fucking crazy, dude. 1.00

01:09:30.000 She's like as crazy as John McCain. 1.00

01:09:32.000 They were like pushing him to get into Syria so hard. 0.99

01:09:36.000 Hillary was? 0.94

01:09:37.000 Yeah, Hillary was like almost one of the most militant military hawks in his whole national security team. 1.00

01:09:43.000 And, man, it's gonna be bad news if she gets in.

01:09:46.000 I blame Bill. 0.99

01:09:48.000 Fucked her up. 1.00

01:09:49.000 Made her angry. 1.00

01:09:50.000 She was probably a peacenik when she was younger. 1.00

01:09:52.000 Probably a goddamn hippie. 1.00

01:09:54.000 She looked like she was. 1.00

01:09:55.000 She got the big eyebrows, fucking glasses. 1.00

01:09:58.000 All those years of dealing with Bill and his fucking rampant philandering. 1.00

01:10:03.000 She wants to blow shit up now. 1.00

01:10:04.000 Just anger. 1.00

01:10:06.000 That's how you create terrorists. 1.00

01:10:07.000 Well, lucky she doesn't have a dick. 1.00

01:10:09.000 She had a dick. 1.00

01:10:10.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:10:11.000 She'd already be president probably, right? 0.99

01:10:14.000 but what do you think yeah i mean it is amazing and i think um i don't know what the fucking think about this ukraine shit man i mean were you following all that crazy shit that happened with rt well what happened they were trying to send you over there right dude what happened what does that because i remember reading that like oh shit they're trying to send abby to russia Wait, 0.99

01:10:33.000 I need to go to the bathroom. 0.99

01:10:34.000 Uh-oh, she's going to fucking formulate her thoughts. 1.00

01:10:34.000 Go to the bathroom? 1.00

01:10:37.000 You've got to take some deep breaths.

01:10:39.000 Plug ting again.

01:10:42.000 There's Hillary Clinton. 1.00

01:10:43.000 Oh my god, look at that photo of Hillary Clinton. 0.99

01:10:46.000 First of all, dude, don't zoom in because if you do, you miss the feet. 1.00

01:10:49.000 Look at those goddamn Birkenstocks. 1.00

01:10:51.000 She might have had the original pair of Birkenstocks. 1.00

01:10:54.000 And these pants.

01:10:55.000 She's wearing these striped pants that look like a version of yoga pants in some sort of a way. 0.93

01:11:03.000 They're very tight.

01:11:04.000 Who knows what kind of material they're made out of, but they're like multicolored, striped, and it's all pointing you towards her crotch in some weird geometric pattern.

01:11:14.000 And she's got glasses on.

01:11:16.000 What happened to the glasses?

01:11:17.000 Does she still wear glasses? 0.95

01:11:18.000 Kind of.

01:11:19.000 Sometimes?

01:11:19.000 Contacts?

01:11:20.000 Yeah.

01:11:21.000 I don't know.

01:11:22.000 That's her. 0.88

01:11:22.000 That's her when she was young. 0.88

01:11:23.000 And Bill and him, look at, they were hippies.

01:11:25.000 He had like a hipster beard.

01:11:28.000 And she looked like a hippie. 1.00

01:11:30.000 Wow.

01:11:30.000 And they were young students trying to make their way in the world.

01:11:35.000 Yeah.

01:11:35.000 Non-inhaling.

01:11:36.000 Non-inhaling.

01:11:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:11:39.000 Fucking liar. 1.00

01:11:41.000 They weren't inhaling because they were putting it up their asses. 1.00

01:11:45.000 It's so crazy. 0.99

01:11:46.000 I heard they ate it.

01:11:47.000 That's what you heard?

01:11:48.000 I heard they ate brownies.

01:11:49.000 Did you just make that up?

01:11:50.000 No, I heard someone said that he didn't inhale.

01:11:52.000 That's why I said he didn't inhale, because he didn't.

01:11:54.000 Please, he inhaled.

01:11:56.000 Yeah, everybody that smokes pot inhales.

01:12:00.000 I tried it once, I didn't like it.

01:12:00.000 Stop.

01:12:02.000 If you didn't like it, you're hanging around with the wrong people.

01:12:04.000 Come on, dude. 0.99

01:12:05.000 You tell me, and all those chicks that he hooked up with, none of them smoked a joint before they fucked? 1.00

01:12:10.000 Get out of here. 1.00

01:12:11.000 Look at her. 0.96

01:12:12.000 That's before she wanted to kill people. 1.00

01:12:13.000 If he's smart enough to be the goddamn governor of Arkansas, he's smart enough to know that weed enhances sex. 1.00

01:12:19.000 Guy's a freak. 1.00

01:12:20.000 Whipping his dick out all the time. 1.00

01:12:22.000 Of course he's high. 1.00

01:12:23.000 Can you believe that? 0.95

01:12:23.000 Crazy. 0.95

01:12:24.000 He just, like, fucked some girl on the desk of the Oval Office with, like, a cigar and shit. 1.00

01:12:28.000 Just, like, super... 1.00

01:12:29.000 Gotta do what you gotta do. 1.00

01:12:31.000 Ballsy motherfucker. 1.00

01:12:31.000 Ballsy, dude. 1.00

01:12:33.000 Just imagine the stress of being the goddamn president. 1.00

01:12:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:35.000 He needs to blow off some steam somehow.

01:12:38.000 Cut the guy a little slack. 0.99

01:12:41.000 Hey, I don't give a fuck about people's private lives. 0.99

01:12:44.000 They could have a million affairs. 0.99

01:12:46.000 I mean, if you're a president, that's the last thing that we should be worrying about.

01:12:49.000 I mean, if anything, it shows...

01:12:49.000 Exactly.

01:12:49.000 Yeah.

01:12:51.000 It shows your character, and it also shows if you're in a really high-profile position of power.

01:12:58.000 It shows that you may be vulnerable to, like, impulsive behavior, which is kind of tricky.

01:13:06.000 Because it's like, on one hand, yeah, I think that, you know... 0.97

01:13:10.000 Especially if you're not in the position to start wars and shit. 0.70

01:13:13.000 Like, you know, I'm not worried about what someone does. 1.00

01:13:15.000 The fucking head of Nabisco likes to... 1.00

01:13:18.000 I'm not going to stop buying crackers. 1.00

01:13:21.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:13:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:13:22.000 But when you're in a political position, when you're in a position of power, that's the one time when I go, maybe you should kind of look at their behavior because if they're doing really blatantly, ridiculous, impulsive shit, they might be out of control. 0.99

01:13:39.000 Yeah, they might be a sociopath, but even more importantly, they might be out of control. 0.98

01:13:43.000 Because I've known some people that were completely out of control. 0.99

01:13:46.000 Like, they're just so powerful, they just think that they can fucking do anything. 0.90

01:13:49.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.93

01:13:50.000 When, you know, if you're the head of a company, that's not really an issue.

01:13:54.000 Unless there's some sort of effect.

01:13:57.000 Yeah, it's a company that kills people.

01:13:59.000 That's an issue.

01:14:00.000 But, you know, if you're making tires or something, it's probably not an issue. 0.99

01:14:04.000 But if you're the head of a country that has the largest army the world has ever known, not by like a small margin, but like, fuck Rome, okay? 0.96

01:14:14.000 We've got military bases in a hundred countries. 0.98

01:14:18.000 900 bases. 1.00

01:14:19.000 Jesus fucking Christ! 1.00

01:14:22.000 But Clinton, the way I describe him, is the last great American presidential dick-slinger. 1.00

01:14:29.000 They don't exist anymore. 0.99

01:14:30.000 Dick-slinger, yes.

01:14:31.000 They don't exist anymore.

01:14:32.000 You can't do that anymore.

01:14:33.000 There will be no more.

01:14:35.000 Every guy from now on that gets into that role will be a Mitt Romney type.

01:14:39.000 They'll be super bland, just without any charisma whatsoever.

01:14:44.000 Because guys with charisma, they get laid. 0.99

01:14:47.000 Those JFK-type guys who can captivate a nation, those guys are pussy chasers. 0.99

01:14:52.000 You can't have a guy like that as a president anymore. 0.99

01:14:55.000 They don't exist.

01:14:56.000 Those charismatic leaders are like, that charisma, that ability to do that is just too intoxicating to find that rare one that doesn't act on those abilities.

01:15:06.000 Just this is a different time, right? 0.97

01:15:09.000 We're gonna have some weird ass fucking president I'm hoping that what it actually does is it eliminates the position because I think the position of president is the last great alpha monkey position It's a dopey idea this idea that one person as our figurehead is one person that gets to make the decisions and he can the president could veto it What one guy right 300 the one guy for 300 million How's that fucking real? 0.98

01:15:35.000 How is that still real? 0.99

01:15:36.000 Right, and then I love how people, they blame him, and then they also excuse everything on him.

01:15:41.000 They're like, oh, well, he, you know, a president can only do so much.

01:15:43.000 But then they're like, but a president should be able to do this and that. 0.99

01:15:45.000 It's like way too much fucking power. 0.98

01:15:47.000 And then also the Supreme Court, I think, really pisses me off, though. 0.99

01:15:50.000 Because we're talking about a court that we have nothing to do with. 0.99

01:15:53.000 And they're like the end-all, be-all arbitrators of a lot of different shit. 1.00

01:15:57.000 And it's fucking terrifying, because they're just fucking elected till death. 1.00

01:15:59.000 They're appointed. 1.00

01:16:01.000 They're basically like running this fucking monarchy. 1.00

01:16:04.000 And it's crazy. 1.00

01:16:05.000 It's disgusting. 1.00

01:16:06.000 There's a couple fucking fascists sitting on the Supreme Court and I don't want them to have the decisions over... 1.00

01:16:10.000 How about Scalia? 1.00

01:16:10.000 Scalia's a sick fuck. 1.00

01:16:12.000 He's crazy. 1.00

01:16:13.000 Scalia still wants sodomy to be illegal. 0.98

01:16:13.000 Alito and... 0.98

01:16:15.000 Like, that's how fucking warped he is. 0.99

01:16:15.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:16:17.000 Well, he's actually said, if people choose to... 0.92

01:16:20.000 If men choose to marry men, what's going to stop them from having sex with animals? 0.98

01:16:23.000 You're like, I don't know where you're... 1.00

01:16:24.000 That's a sick fucking trajectory, dude. 1.00

01:16:27.000 What's going to stop them from marrying pigeons? 1.00

01:16:31.000 Nothing.

01:16:31.000 You're like, I'm sorry, how are you Supreme Court Justice?

01:16:33.000 It's unreal. 0.73

01:16:34.000 You can marry pigeons all you want. 1.00

01:16:35.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:16:37.000 I wanted to... 1.00

01:16:38.000 Yeah, so what were you thinking when all this fucking RT shit happened? 0.99

01:16:41.000 I mean... 0.99

01:16:41.000 I was worried about you. 0.99

01:16:42.000 I was worried about you because you were criticizing the Putin regime and...

01:16:48.000 Well, here's the thing, okay? 0.99

01:16:49.000 And I've had, you know, many people tweet at me, oh, she's a mouthpiece for fucking Putin. 0.99

01:16:54.000 Right, right, right, right, right. 0.99

01:16:55.000 She works for RT and this and that.

01:16:57.000 We're good to go.

01:17:16.000 But when you're talking, this is your opinions on these things.

01:17:20.000 And your opinions, in many situations, were critical of Russia, and critical of Putin, and critical of this military regime and their actions.

01:17:30.000 And there was this backlash where they were saying they wanted to send you over.

01:17:35.000 Where were they saying they were going to send you?

01:17:37.000 Crimea.

01:17:37.000 And what area was this?

01:17:39.000 What was going on?

01:17:40.000 So that was like Russia did this military incursion into Crimea right when all the Ukraine coup happened and then all of a sudden the Russian military is like making all these maneuvers on the border of Ukraine and Crimea was basically the first little territory right there. 0.98

01:17:55.000 It was fucking crazy. 0.87

01:17:57.000 And this is what's so hard. 0.99

01:17:59.000 Working at RT, the world hates Russia right now. 0.99

01:18:03.000 The world fucking hates Russia right now. 1.00

01:18:05.000 And we're being told in the media all day, Putin's the biggest villain in the world. 1.00

01:18:10.000 We should all fucking hate Russia. 1.00

01:18:11.000 And then we're seeing like all this shit about the gay law and pussy riot and all this stuff. 1.00

01:18:15.000 So it's really tough already to just be working there, you know, already. 0.99

01:18:20.000 And it's even tougher to know what the fuck the truth is when we already know how biased the mainstream media is, especially the way that they're covering Israel-Palestine.

01:18:26.000 So when they're all telling us one thing... 0.90

01:18:28.000 But then all I'm getting is actual, like, Russian sources. 0.98

01:18:31.000 I'm like, I don't fucking believe anything that I'm seeing. 0.95

01:18:34.000 Right. 0.94

01:18:35.000 So are you getting, like, an agenda that you're supposed to push?

01:18:39.000 Oh, no.

01:18:39.000 I have total editorial freedom.

01:18:41.000 Here's the thing.

01:18:41.000 RT, Russia Today, you know it in the name.

01:18:44.000 It's literally the name of what the bias is.

01:18:47.000 It was created to put the Russian perspective out in the world. 0.97

01:18:51.000 Of course it's going to be fucking biased toward Russia. 0.62

01:18:53.000 How did you wind up working for Russia today? 0.99

01:18:56.000 That's a very strange position for someone as opinionated as you.

01:18:59.000 I was actually covering Occupy Oakland and RT was the only media organization covering the protest movement.

01:18:59.000 It is.

01:19:06.000 And so I kept seeing this weird Russian channel out there and I was like, I don't know why the fuck this Russian station is covering Occupy. 0.85

01:19:12.000 I was like, but it's great and I'm so grateful to have this platform. 0.93

01:19:15.000 That they're at least covering what's going on.

01:19:18.000 And I really think it's because of RT's coverage, and they were nominated for an Emmy for it, that we were able to see all the videos go viral, and I think it forced the mainstream media to at least pay a little bit of attention to Occupy.

01:19:28.000 But that's how I got involved. 0.98

01:19:29.000 I saw RT all over the place in terms of Occupy shit. 0.98

01:19:33.000 And they wanted me to come and have a show. 0.99

01:19:36.000 I mean, their whole thing is they offer the perspectives that you don't see, so they can have the very extreme libertarian voice, and they have the socialist voice, they have the anarchist voice, and it's just breaking through all the mainstream media bullshit. 0.98

01:19:49.000 But when you're looking at the bias, of course they're going to have a fucking pro-Russian bias. 0.87

01:19:52.000 It's funded by the Russian government, just like you have Al Jazeera's Qatar. 0.99

01:19:56.000 The Emir of Qatar funds Al Jazeera, just like BBC's run by the British fucking crown, dude. 0.97

01:20:00.000 Does that bother you working there? 0.98

01:20:03.000 It bothers me when people tell me that I'm a fucking propagandist and that I'm a mouthpiece for Putin because I've already displayed multiple times that I will risk my job to speak out against Putin if I feel like I want to and I have to. 0.96

01:20:17.000 I've done it twice already. 0.98

01:20:19.000 One time I saw all this military maneuvering in...

01:20:22.000 I was in Crimea and I made a statement and of course the mainstream media picked it up, touted me as this anti-Russian hero just because they had no idea who I was.

01:20:30.000 They didn't know how fucking controversial my show was and how I criticized the US empire all the time.

01:20:34.000 So they picked the statement up, made me an overnight sensation and then they quickly realized like I was way too controversial to be lauded. 0.99

01:20:42.000 So they ended up calling me like a fucking crazy conspiracy theorist, you know, lunatic. 0.99

01:20:48.000 But what was really crazy about that, and I want to talk about RT some more, but what was so fucking crazy is if anyone's watched House of Cards, that's exactly how this shit actually operates in DC. Like, I made this statement, and then this girl, Liz Wall, which was my colleague and actually one of my best friends in DC, 0.99

01:21:04.000 saw all the attention that I was getting, and she was just like a newsreader, very generic, never heard her voice any opinions.

01:21:09.000 Two days after this happened, I was getting all this international press, and then so she resigns live on air and is like, I can't work for Putin. 0.98

01:21:18.000 This is a horrible network, and I'm for the truth, and I'm pro-American and all this shit. 0.98

01:21:23.000 And then she... 1.00

01:21:25.000 Got picked up and, you know, lauded all this shit. 0.98

01:21:29.000 And then I found out that there was actually this think tank called the Foreign Policy Initiative. 0.99

01:21:32.000 This is where it gets fucking weird. 0.98

01:21:34.000 Full of neoconservatives. 0.98

01:21:36.000 It's the same people who started the Iraq War. 0.99

01:21:38.000 Bill Kristol, you know, all these motherfuckers who basically forced us into Iraq. 0.99

01:21:42.000 They're like the most militant neocon faction of the entire DC establishment. 0.99

01:21:46.000 They've resurrected into a new think tank called the Foreign Policy Initiative.

01:21:50.000 And I found out that Liz was like essentially being used by these people. 0.92

01:21:53.000 These people probably reached out to her and they just said like, look, we're gonna like help you get this media tour behind you because their whole platform, if you look at their mission statement, they want a new Cold War with Russia. 0.52

01:22:06.000 We're good to go.

01:22:35.000 And she hates Russia and we should all pay attention to her. 0.99

01:22:35.000 Quit! 0.99

01:22:38.000 And I was like, this is fucking crazy. 1.00

01:22:40.000 This is all being manufactured. 0.99

01:22:42.000 And that's why I was like, this is absolutely insane.

01:22:45.000 And I just saw this media machine spinning and I was being victimized by the media machine that I critique every day.

01:22:51.000 That's fascinating.

01:22:52.000 It was unbelievable.

01:22:53.000 That's fascinating to watch propaganda disseminate, isn't it?

01:22:57.000 Especially when you're the...

01:22:57.000 Yeah.

01:22:59.000 Seeds and water and grows and then they catch it and run with it.

01:23:05.000 It was unreal, man.

01:23:07.000 So you're a Putin mouthpiece.

01:23:08.000 That's what we've gotten out of this.

01:23:10.000 But it was hilarious because I woke up the next morning after making that statement and I woke up to a press release saying, we don't push our journalists into saying what they need to say, but that's why we're shipping Abby to Crimea.

01:23:23.000 And I was like, pardon me? 0.97

01:23:24.000 I'm not fucking going to Crimea. 1.00

01:23:26.000 It's a fucking war zone. 1.00

01:23:27.000 Yeah, what did they say to you? 1.00

01:23:28.000 What was the actual conversation with you?

01:23:31.000 Because I remember they said, someone had said, we want to send her there so she can see it on the ground and see what the situation actually is.

01:23:40.000 What was their contention when they were saying that there was something wrong with your perception of it?

01:23:45.000 Right.

01:23:45.000 So here's the problem, and I've learned a lot more about Crimea since I still stand by everything I said.

01:23:50.000 But Russians have a very strong allegiance with Crimea because Ukraine is like half Russian speakers.

01:23:56.000 Ukraine, I know like a lot of Ukrainians that I know are literally identify with Russia. 0.99

01:24:01.000 Like they speak Russian, they don't speak Ukrainian and shit. 0.98

01:24:04.000 So Crimea to them was actually like they were scared and they did reach out and they wanted help. 0.98

01:24:09.000 I'm not justifying the military action whatsoever and I think it was really wrong to have these maneuvers right on the heels of this coup.

01:24:16.000 What were they worried about with Crimea?

01:24:19.000 Um, they were worried about the new, like, interim government and how there's just, like, a lot of lawlessness. 0.95

01:24:24.000 There's, like, all this shit going down, and I guess they reached out and wanted this referendum. 0.87

01:24:29.000 I don't know if it was a fair referendum. 0.99

01:24:31.000 I don't fucking know. 0.97

01:24:32.000 I'm not over there. 0.99

01:24:33.000 But my boss, and I think the boss of the whole RT operation, really didn't understand what the fuck I was doing. 0.99

01:24:40.000 They were like, I don't fucking get what you're talking about. 0.99

01:24:43.000 They're like, we're Russian. 1.00

01:24:44.000 You don't know what the hell you're talking about. 0.85

01:24:45.000 You need to go over there and I think? 0.93

01:25:09.000 So what was the conversation? 0.99

01:25:11.000 They pull you into the office, Abby want to talk to you about some of the shit you said on TV, and we want to send you over to a war zone. 0.96

01:25:19.000 So I woke up to this press release without even being asked, so I go into work knowing, and my boss calls me and he's like, hey Abby, we need to talk to you. 0.98

01:25:27.000 He has a Russian accent.

01:25:28.000 He's like, I have a really great offer for you.

01:25:31.000 I'm like, oh, you're going to send me to Crimea?

01:25:33.000 Ship me there?

01:25:33.000 I was like, is that the offer?

01:25:35.000 Because I'm not going.

01:25:35.000 And I was like, I woke up to already saying that I was.

01:25:38.000 So maybe you guys got to eat your shit together and fix these narratives before you tell the world that I'm being shipped there. 0.98

01:25:44.000 So were you worried about being fired? 0.99

01:25:45.000 Were you ready to walk?

01:25:46.000 I was ready to walk at that point, and I was just trying to see what they were going to do.

01:25:51.000 But I think...

01:25:51.000 I went into my boss's office and I was like, look, this is actually the best thing that's ever happened, RT. I was like, let me say what I want to say.

01:25:58.000 Because people call this network a Putin mouthpiece.

01:26:00.000 And I was like, and, you know, for good reason, because it does parrot the Russian line. 0.99

01:26:04.000 I was like, but if you let me go out there and fucking criticize Russia... 0.98

01:26:09.000 That's good. 0.99

01:26:10.000 That's good.

01:26:11.000 And I was like, even Fox News has diverse opinions on. 1.00

01:26:13.000 They had Alan Combs, even though he was like a little pussy. 0.99

01:26:17.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:26:18.000 But at least they had that space where they could be like, we have liberals on sometimes.

01:26:22.000 It's like, you need that if you want to be legitimate. 0.99

01:26:24.000 And so I was like, fucking run with it. 0.98

01:26:26.000 Let me do my thing. 0.98

01:26:27.000 And at the end of the day, I give them inordinate credit for fucking letting me stay and letting me be there. 0.53

01:26:34.000 And I don't know what's going to happen, but You cannot say the same for a lot of corporate media stations that fired people for criticizing war, which is even scary to me because those aren't even funded by the U.S. government. 0.74

01:26:46.000 Yeah, but they're all terrified of the wrath of the U.S. government The access to stories, the access to interviews, you know, whenever you see Obama sit down with Bill O'Reilly, cross-legged, you know, they're sitting there, sitting like two gentlemen, their feet dangling over their other knee, 0.97

01:27:05.000 like all casual and shit. 0.99

01:27:06.000 Jerk each other off into the table. 1.00

01:27:07.000 So fucking bizarre and strange. 1.00

01:27:10.000 It's really incestual. 0.99

01:27:11.000 It's weird because you know that there's certain things that they're not allowed to say, questions they're not allowed to ask. 1.00

01:27:17.000 You don't get that job unless you're safe as fuck. 0.99

01:27:21.000 Exactly. 0.99

01:27:21.000 You're walking into a nerfed room, you know, and O'Reilly can pretend to play hardball, but it's going to be about economics or Obamacare or something like real fucking simple. 0.99

01:27:29.000 You knew it was going to be about Benghazi, IRS, and Obamacare.

01:27:32.000 They probably already agreed to the terms. 1.00

01:27:35.000 It was all pre-taped, all that shit. 1.00

01:27:36.000 Well, we torture some folks. 1.00

01:27:38.000 That's fucking cool. 0.98

01:27:40.000 But I went after this whole thing happened, so I was like, I went on Piers Morgan, and Piers Morgan... 0.99

01:27:45.000 What a dickwad that guy is, huh? 0.92

01:27:47.000 That was hilarious, because he had no idea, like, he just thought that I'd go on there and just talk all this shit about, like, throw my network under the bus, throw all my work that I'd done there under the bus, and just be like, so, you know, you're working for this overt propaganda machine. 0.99

01:27:58.000 I was like, no different than you, bro. 0.94

01:28:00.000 Like, no different than you. 0.99

01:28:02.000 I was like, fucking look at what you guys have been doing. 0.99

01:28:04.000 You guys have been warmongering us. 1.00

01:28:07.000 He's a fool. 1.00

01:28:08.000 It's unbelievable. 1.00

01:28:09.000 He's a very strange fool because I find it incredibly odd that they gave that guy that job after his whole scandal with... 1.00

01:28:17.000 Oh, I know. 1.00

01:28:18.000 The phone tapping scandal.

01:28:19.000 Phone tapping victims.

01:28:20.000 Unbelievable.

01:28:20.000 Phones.

01:28:21.000 And then, did you ever see Chelsea Handler manhandle him?

01:28:24.000 Mm-hmm.

01:28:24.000 She handled him.

01:28:26.000 That was really awkward.

01:28:27.000 She destroyed him.

01:28:28.000 It was hilarious.

01:28:29.000 It was hilarious.

01:28:30.000 She seems so irritated. 0.93

01:28:32.000 She's like, I don't even want to fucking be here right now. 1.00

01:28:34.000 Well, she's rich as fuck. 1.00

01:28:35.000 She doesn't give a shit. 1.00

01:28:36.000 She's a comic and a drunk. 1.00

01:28:38.000 And has it all out on the table. 0.99

01:28:41.000 She gives zero fucks. 1.00

01:28:44.000 So, Piers Morgan not paying attention to her and not even talking to her and in between takes and going over his notes and fucking reading his Twitter. 0.99

01:28:53.000 But I think self-censorship is probably the biggest issue that you see on media. 0.99

01:28:58.000 And the point that I was trying to make is that I'm obviously like the only thing that I self-censor about is Russia because it's funded by fucking Russia. 0.95

01:29:06.000 The money comes from everywhere. 0.99

01:29:07.000 Even if you're looking at Piero Midiar, there's a lot of fucking dirty money that's going into that. 0.99

01:29:12.000 Like a lot of neoliberal fucked up policies that he's done. 0.98

01:29:15.000 It's like no matter what, if you want the platform, unless you're Joe Rogan... 0.92

01:29:19.000 We're good to go.

01:29:43.000 But it really does come from everywhere, whether you're looking at MSNBC, NBC, CNN. And I think that the biggest problem is that those have dozens, if not hundreds, of conflicts of interest.

01:29:54.000 At least you know RT's Russia.

01:29:56.000 You're not going to get news about Russia from RT. That's pretty obvious.

01:30:02.000 Right.

01:30:22.000 It's working for any company that gets their money from various sources, whether it's the Russian government, whether it's corporations that sponsor shows and want you to keep a non-confrontational,

01:30:38.000 non-controversial stance on their network because they have this agenda, because they're As many products as possible during their commercial breaks.

01:30:48.000 There's a whole bunch of reasons.

01:30:49.000 Because they want to negotiate good guests.

01:30:53.000 They want to make high-profile political guests feel at home.

01:30:56.000 So they have to censor opinions.

01:30:58.000 Access.

01:30:59.000 It's all about access, baby.

01:31:01.000 You know what we were saying before about absolutism?

01:31:04.000 That's why I work for RT. Because if I was an absolutist, I'd be living in the fucking jungle drinking rainwater. 1.00

01:31:10.000 I have an iPhone. 1.00

01:31:11.000 I can criticize the NSA a lot, but look at fucking Facebook and Apple. 0.99

01:31:16.000 They're all working with the NSA. They're offering these backdoors. 0.99

01:31:19.000 I use these tools because I care more about the truth and I'm giving up and I'm compromising my moral values a little bit because I'm not a fucking absolutist because I believe in the bigger picture that this is a platform that's going to get the truth out to as many people as possible.

01:31:34.000 That I'm using Facebook to spread the message about this and that.

01:31:38.000 And I value that more than I do cutting off all social media because I believe in privacy to the absolute extreme.

01:31:45.000 So I guess there's a lot of compromises that you make living in the society that we live in.

01:31:50.000 And it's just tough.

01:31:52.000 You mentioned...

01:31:54.000 Commercials.

01:31:54.000 Dude, pharmaceutical industry.

01:31:56.000 The U.S. is only one of two countries in the entire world that allows direct-to-consumer advertising about pharmaceuticals. 0.97

01:32:02.000 And guess who's fucking preventing weed legalization in the U.S.? Partnership for a Drug-Free America, which is hilarious. 0.95

01:32:09.000 Unbelievable.

01:32:09.000 They are funded by pharmaceutical companies.

01:32:12.000 Drugs fund anti-drug commercials. 1.00

01:32:15.000 Kid groups and shit. 1.00

01:32:18.000 Like kids for a drug-free America. 1.00

01:32:20.000 You're peddling, but yet you're giving Adderall to two-year-olds.

01:32:23.000 Well, they used to take money from alcohol companies.

01:32:25.000 They stopped.

01:32:26.000 Now it's just pharmaceuticals. 0.98

01:32:28.000 It's un-fucking-real. 0.98

01:32:30.000 Partnership for a drug-free America. 0.99

01:32:32.000 Yeah, I had a joke that it was just like hookers doing commercials against strippers. 1.00

01:32:37.000 Like, that's...

01:32:37.000 Partnership for a drug-free America having commercials against weed.

01:32:42.000 Pharmaceutical drugs kill a lot of fucking people. 1.00

01:32:44.000 Weed kills zero. 1.00

01:32:46.000 Like, the idea behind it is so hilarious.

01:32:48.000 It's just gross.

01:32:50.000 It's gross and more transparent now than ever before.

01:32:53.000 And that's why, you know, you're not seeing that talking dog commercial anymore.

01:32:56.000 It's really hard to push those things.

01:32:58.000 It was just a few years ago.

01:33:00.000 You know, Lindsay, I wish you wouldn't smoke weed.

01:33:02.000 You're not the same when you smoke it.

01:33:04.000 I wish you were on Oxys.

01:33:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:07.000 Snort some Oxys instead. 0.98

01:33:09.000 Take some Adderall and get shit done. 0.99

01:33:13.000 Become a part of the workforce, Lindsay. 0.99

01:33:15.000 Yeah, become a more high-functioning worker.

01:33:17.000 Dude! 1.00

01:33:19.000 Fucking Adderall, man. 1.00

01:33:21.000 That shit's everywhere. 1.00

01:33:22.000 I know so many people that are on that now. 1.00

01:33:24.000 Oh my god.

01:33:24.000 It's really confusing.

01:33:25.000 It's like you become some hyper-vigilant corporate entity, some mass-producing consumer, this person that can work 16 hours a day hardcore, and you're just taxing and redlining your system all day.

01:33:42.000 It's insane.

01:33:43.000 Yeah.

01:33:44.000 I know a dude's got a serious problem with it.

01:33:46.000 He can't get off it. 0.99

01:33:47.000 He fucking loves it. 0.99

01:33:48.000 Yum, yum, yum. 1.00

01:33:49.000 Chomp, chomp, chomp. 0.94

01:33:50.000 10,000 kids right now. 1.00

01:33:52.000 Think about how many fucking kids two to three years old are on Adderall. 1.00

01:33:55.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:33:56.000 They're fucking toddlers! 1.00

01:33:57.000 What are you prescribing to fucking babies? 1.00

01:34:00.000 Babies being a baby. 1.00

01:34:01.000 I'm tired of it.

01:34:02.000 I can't deal with it, doctor.

01:34:03.000 Get him on drugs! 0.99

01:34:04.000 Well, I had a next-door neighbor.

01:34:05.000 There's nothing wrong with their kid.

01:34:06.000 They got their kid on Ritalin.

01:34:08.000 One of those things.

01:34:08.000 Or something.

01:34:09.000 Prozac, Ritalin, something. 0.99

01:34:10.000 Some sort of a control-the-fucking-kid drug. 0.98

01:34:13.000 And it was really bizarre. 0.99

01:34:15.000 Bizarre to see this little kid become like a zombie.

01:34:17.000 You know, just like dead. 0.73

01:34:19.000 Dead eyes.

01:34:20.000 It's insane.

01:34:21.000 Wandering around. 1.00

01:34:22.000 I mean, these people were such shitty neighbors. 1.00

01:34:24.000 They had a dog that was just so wild. 1.00

01:34:27.000 They had a weird fence.

01:34:29.000 Like, they kind of had a fence, but any dog could go over.

01:34:31.000 Like, they had a fence that was connected to a hill, so the dog could just go up the hill and over the fence. 0.99

01:34:37.000 And I was like, bro, you gotta put a real fucking... 1.00

01:34:39.000 Like, their dog would growl at me and shit. 0.99

01:34:41.000 And I told him that his dog growled at me, and he made up some crazy story about my dog getting out, and, like, the dog tried to attack him. 1.00

01:34:48.000 He grabbed it by his neck. 1.00

01:34:49.000 He was, like, this fucking fat, out of shape, dumpy dude. 1.00

01:34:52.000 I'm like, you grabbed that dog's neck and kept that dog from... 1.00

01:34:54.000 My dog's a big dog.

01:34:55.000 I'm like, that dog didn't try to bite...

01:34:57.000 Plus, my dog's not aggressive. 1.00

01:34:59.000 Like, you're an asshole. 1.00

01:35:00.000 Just making up some story because his dog is creepy. 1.00

01:35:00.000 Right. 1.00

01:35:03.000 His dog would, like, growl at people and shit. 0.99

01:35:05.000 So, um, it was the same guy that had this kid that was just a kid. 1.00

01:35:09.000 It was just a kid.

01:35:10.000 And they just didn't want to deal with it.

01:35:12.000 They didn't want to deal.

01:35:12.000 Kids need a god...

01:35:13.000 They need attention. 1.00

01:35:14.000 The mom was whacked out of her mind on all sorts of fucking pills. 1.00

01:35:18.000 And the father was just sort of absentee. 1.00

01:35:21.000 Worked all day.

01:35:22.000 Twelve hours a day every day.

01:35:24.000 Never home.

01:35:24.000 And then when he was home, the kid was too much noise.

01:35:26.000 Get them on pills! 0.99

01:35:26.000 So, like, put... 0.99

01:35:27.000 Get them on pills! 1.00

01:35:28.000 You know that crazy show My Strange Addiction where people eat fucking upholstery and shit? 1.00

01:35:34.000 I was watching one where they're fucking eating tape. 1.00

01:35:37.000 Scotch tape. 0.99

01:35:38.000 Do you think third world countries have that problem? 0.99

01:35:41.000 Or is it just this vacuous, vapid identity crisis of Americans just being like, what the fuck is life all about? 0.99

01:35:47.000 I don't know. 0.98

01:35:47.000 I'm generalizing American culture maybe way too much. 0.98

01:35:51.000 Where does that come from? 1.00

01:35:52.000 People are fucking soft. 1.00

01:35:54.000 You know, this life is a little bit too easy. 1.00

01:35:57.000 It's a little too easy to go to the supermarket and get your food.

01:36:00.000 It's a little too easy to drive in the jack-in-the-box and get your food.

01:36:03.000 It's a little too easy to exist in this weird world that's completely and totally unnatural.

01:36:09.000 This cubicle world, this world of sitting at a desk all day.

01:36:12.000 It's just not natural. 1.00

01:36:14.000 And we're fucked up. 1.00

01:36:16.000 We're all really screwed up because of that. 1.00

01:36:18.000 Because of this unnatural existence that our bodies are not designed for, our minds are not designed for. 0.53

01:36:24.000 So people get wacky.

01:36:25.000 They start eating tape. 0.99

01:36:26.000 They start chewing on fucking upholstery and eating curtains. 1.00

01:36:31.000 It's fucking strange. 1.00

01:36:35.000 A perfect example is... 0.99

01:36:37.000 It's all about access, right?

01:36:40.000 Because in Florida, it's better now, but they had a real issue for a long time before...

01:36:48.000 Before they put out that documentary, the OxyContin Express...

01:36:51.000 That was crazy.

01:36:53.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:36:54.000 Those health centers or whatever that they just fucking... 0.96

01:36:57.000 Yeah, pain management centers. 0.97

01:36:58.000 What's the address of those?

01:37:00.000 Yeah, they're everywhere.

01:37:01.000 It's not an address. 0.99

01:37:02.000 It's just like, close your eyes and throw a dart at the map of Florida and you'll fucking hit one. 0.98

01:37:07.000 And they were one-stop shops, which is disturbing enough. 0.98

01:37:11.000 But what's more disturbing was that they didn't have a database.

01:37:16.000 So you could go to Dr. Jamie over here and get a prescription.

01:37:21.000 And then you could go down the street and go to Dr. Mike and get a prescription from him.

01:37:26.000 And then you can go down the street further to Dr. Michelle and get a prescription from her.

01:37:31.000 And there's no one to stop you.

01:37:33.000 There's no one to know what you've done.

01:37:35.000 There was nothing.

01:37:36.000 And so because of that, there was this insane number of people that were on OxyContin.

01:37:42.000 I'll pull up the data.

01:37:44.000 I'll pull up the actual.

01:37:45.000 But the number of prescriptions of people, of prescriptions that people had OxyContin in Florida as opposed to the rest of the world.

01:37:56.000 And it's also where all the drug puddlers go to buy it. 0.98

01:37:58.000 And then they just go to their respective states and sell it.

01:38:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:02.000 It's fucking nuts. 1.00

01:38:03.000 Yeah, it was real nuts. 0.99

01:38:06.000 It was something like 90% of...

01:38:08.000 Yeah, 90% of all of the prescriptions in the country were in Florida.

01:38:08.000 No way.

01:38:16.000 Holy...

01:38:17.000 Yeah.

01:38:17.000 Well, Americans have...

01:38:19.000 I mean, we consume more opiates than any other country in the world.

01:38:23.000 There's some insane stat.

01:38:25.000 40% of Americans are on...

01:38:29.000 I think it's honestly like five pills or more.

01:38:32.000 I mean, I might be exaggerating.

01:38:33.000 But remember how last time, Joe, we were talking about the opium in Afghanistan?

01:38:37.000 Yes.

01:38:38.000 Did you hear that the NSA is tapping every single phone call?

01:38:44.000 Yeah.

01:39:01.000 Well, it is, but see, what people get confused about when it comes to this idea of tapping phones is that there's a person that's monitoring Abby Martin, there's a person that's monitoring me, there's a person that's got Amber Lyon's number.

01:39:15.000 No, it's all just being stored.

01:39:17.000 And if you get arrested... 0.99

01:39:20.000 Then, then they're going to go through your shit with a fine-tooth comb and they have all this data. 0.99

01:39:25.000 But until you get arrested, they're just, you know... 0.99

01:39:28.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

01:39:29.000 It's the retroactive prosecution. 0.99

01:39:31.000 It's the ability to frame a case about you going back in your history and doing all this shit. 0.96

01:39:36.000 Like, you can pick one thing that you said, exactly. 0.98

01:39:38.000 Implied blackmail.

01:39:38.000 Implied blackmail is what it is.

01:39:40.000 It's like, it keeps you on the up and up. 0.99

01:39:43.000 It keeps you from challenging authority because if you do, they know a lot of shit about you, Abby Martin. 0.98

01:39:48.000 I guess my point is that if we wanted to stop the opium trade, it wouldn't be that hard. 0.97

01:39:55.000 It probably wouldn't be as hard.

01:39:55.000 Yeah.

01:39:58.000 Yeah.

01:39:59.000 But yeah, no, dude.

01:40:01.000 When people know that they're being watched, we were talking about the generation, the internet generation.

01:40:05.000 The problem is that there's no semblance of privacy with the generation growing up next.

01:40:12.000 That's all gone.

01:40:13.000 And people...

01:40:13.000 They react differently.

01:40:15.000 They act differently when they know there's a camera on them, when they know that they're being recorded.

01:40:19.000 And what is that going to do for just independent thought?

01:40:23.000 And I just hope that we can... 0.98

01:40:24.000 I don't know what the fuck's going to happen, man. 0.98

01:40:26.000 It's getting really crazy. 0.99

01:40:29.000 The surveillance state is just really, really out of control.

01:40:32.000 Well, the only thing that's...

01:40:34.000 What's fascinating to me is that it's starting to eat itself.

01:40:38.000 It just came out recently that the NSA was...

01:40:43.000 They were using surveillance on the Senate.

01:40:47.000 Yeah.

01:40:48.000 It's like they're eating themselves.

01:40:51.000 And then the FBI... It's like they're eating themselves.

01:41:06.000 They've gone to cannibalism.

01:41:08.000 That's one of the things that many people are not aware is that a lot of government agencies don't like the other government agencies. 0.96

01:41:16.000 It's fucking hilarious. 0.99

01:41:17.000 You assholes are supposed to be on Team America and the fucking FBI and the CIA have issues with each other. 1.00

01:41:24.000 They don't share information. 1.00

01:41:25.000 They go back and they have fucking real problems. 0.86

01:41:28.000 I think that ultimately the evil and the sort of creepy behavior that's involved in the surveillance state We'll prove to be its own undoing because they're going to investigate each other. 0.97

01:41:45.000 They're going to expose each other's issues.

01:41:48.000 They're attacking each other.

01:41:50.000 This whole thing. 0.99

01:41:51.000 I mean, the fucking head of the CIA, the number one spook in the country, gets investigated by the FBI and he loses his gig. 1.00

01:42:02.000 Because it turns out that he's having an affair. 0.99

01:42:04.000 I mean, if that doesn't show you how crazy this is.

01:42:07.000 And that guy, Petraeus, who lost his gig, was, you know, I mean, you remember during the Iraq War?

01:42:13.000 He was like Jesus of the battlefield.

01:42:16.000 He was like the guy that everybody went to.

01:42:18.000 Isn't it funny that an affair can take you down and not like war crimes? 0.66

01:42:20.000 Hilarious.

01:42:20.000 Yeah.

01:42:21.000 With some crazy bitch that was banging a lot of dudes. 1.00

01:42:23.000 Who gives a fuck? 1.00

01:42:24.000 She was like into fucking high-level military guys. 1.00

01:42:27.000 It was her thing. 1.00

01:42:27.000 Right, right. 1.00

01:42:28.000 They were kind of like weird swingers when it comes to hired killers. 1.00

01:42:32.000 Very strange.

01:42:33.000 Very strange.

01:42:34.000 Did you hear about that other leak about GCHQ, which is like the NSA counterpart in Britain?

01:42:39.000 They actually, it came out that they're manipulating polls and online traffic and essentially, you know the whole whoever controls the past controls the present? 0.98

01:42:48.000 Well, these motherfuckers are controlling the present and the future because if you're manipulating polls... 0.97

01:42:53.000 That right there can change the course of the political evolution of a country. 0.99

01:42:56.000 If you're like, oh, well, 90% of UK citizens agree with this, what, are you going to say no? 1.00

01:43:01.000 And it's like, you're just fucking making that shit up! 1.00

01:43:03.000 You can just make it up now! 1.00

01:43:04.000 It's insane!

01:43:05.000 But, again, then the information comes out that that's what's going on, and it makes it sort of invalid.

01:43:11.000 I hope so, man.

01:43:12.000 I think kind of in a way it does.

01:43:15.000 It's like, look, the more the information comes out, the more the information gets in the hands of the people, the more that information becomes invalid.

01:43:24.000 Or at least it becomes a weapon that's used against him.

01:43:27.000 Like, the Petraeus situation.

01:43:30.000 Petraeus is like, he was teaching at City College of New York, and as he's walking, he has to walk.

01:43:36.000 Did you ever see it?

01:43:37.000 Yeah, the war criminal stuff.

01:43:38.000 The kids follow him and scream war criminal at him.

01:43:41.000 And you're like, whoa, this is crazy.

01:43:43.000 This guy doesn't have any protection.

01:43:44.000 They jettisoned him.

01:43:46.000 They took this guy, who was the head killer, right?

01:43:50.000 He's the head military guy, the top dude, who apparently, he would take credit for stuff that other people really deserve credit for.

01:43:58.000 There was a lot of dissent.

01:43:59.000 There was a lot of real issue.

01:44:01.000 In the military community, they had issues with this guy.

01:44:04.000 I don't know how much of this is true or not.

01:44:06.000 But watching him walk down the street while these kids are yelling war criminal, they're holding up these signs, and they're saying, we'll be back tomorrow, we'll be back every day you're teaching.

01:44:16.000 And it's like, this is crazy. 0.99

01:44:18.000 Who fucking expected this? 0.99

01:44:20.000 And he can't do it. 0.99

01:44:21.000 Let's see if we can pull that video up.

01:44:22.000 Yeah, that's great.

01:44:23.000 Let's see if you can find it.

01:44:23.000 It's a fascinating video.

01:44:24.000 It's fascinating.

01:44:26.000 Because it's like, who would have ever expected, how would he have ever expected that a chick he was banging...

01:44:31.000 Right.

01:44:32.000 Led to this.

01:44:32.000 Right, right, right, right, right.

01:44:34.000 What a weird world we live in.

01:44:36.000 Well, you could be the head of a military machine that's responsible for, what was the, it's between X hundred thousand and a million innocents died in Iraq, right?

01:44:47.000 Over a million.

01:44:48.000 There was like a 2007 poll that was a million back then.

01:44:51.000 Yeah.

01:44:51.000 And I can't even imagine how much it is now.

01:44:54.000 A thing of a pile of a million bodies.

01:44:56.000 Good luck trying to wrap your head around that.

01:44:57.000 It's unbelievable.

01:44:58.000 But watching this guy, here it is.

01:45:00.000 This is great.

01:45:13.000 He's just walking. 1.00

01:45:16.000 You piece of shit. 1.00

01:45:20.000 There's blood all over you. 1.00

01:45:23.000 Wow.

01:45:24.000 Wow.

01:45:31.000 Every class, David!

01:45:34.000 Every class, David!

01:45:43.000 And he doesn't know what to do.

01:45:45.000 There's a camera in his face.

01:45:48.000 He doesn't know what to do.

01:45:50.000 He doesn't do anything.

01:45:51.000 He just keeps walking.

01:45:52.000 But there's no one with this guy.

01:45:54.000 Right.

01:45:55.000 That is really crazy that he just probably thought he could slink off.

01:46:07.000 Wow.

01:46:08.000 And he's jaywalking.

01:46:10.000 Arrest him.

01:46:11.000 That's illegal.

01:46:12.000 Wow.

01:46:13.000 They don't touch him though.

01:46:15.000 They yell at him.

01:46:15.000 They get in his face.

01:46:16.000 But they never get in front of him.

01:46:18.000 They get to the side.

01:46:20.000 They don't stop him.

01:46:26.000 Wow, he just keeps walking.

01:46:27.000 It's just like, I mean, what's so weird, John Yoo, the guy who basically codified torture, is still working at Berkeley.

01:46:33.000 He's just still a teacher there. 0.97

01:46:35.000 Like, I don't, it's fucking crazy. 0.98

01:46:36.000 Who is he? 0.98

01:46:37.000 John Yoo, he's the guy who actually wrote, like, the torture justification in the Bush, like, torture memos.

01:46:43.000 Like, he actually wrote the law to actually legalize torture.

01:46:47.000 Not legalize it, but codified it so that it was essentially legal.

01:46:51.000 Whew. 1.00

01:46:52.000 Yeah, and he's a fucking criminal, man, and he's just working at Berkeley. 1.00

01:46:55.000 I love when people do that, though. 1.00

01:46:57.000 I mean, Kissinger... 0.99

01:46:58.000 What kills me is that the oldest motherfuckers, like Kissinger and Bush Sr., and Cheney, it's like, god damn, you guys have had all the luck that you can go skydiving when you're like 99 years old and you're like a war criminal like Bush Sr. It's like, how are you... 1.00

01:47:14.000 How are you so lucky, Ben?

01:47:16.000 22 times more oxycodones are prescribed in Florida than anywhere else in the country.

01:47:26.000 And these pain centers are just still operating?

01:47:29.000 They're still operating, but they've cut them back.

01:47:31.000 And this is where it gets really crazy. 0.99

01:47:33.000 These poor people that were hooked on this shit, now they have to go illegal because there's no options. 0.99

01:47:41.000 It's become a serious issue for people that live in Florida because you essentially have all these people that are hooked illegally. 1.00

01:47:50.000 And they're kind of collateral damage.

01:47:54.000 This OxyContin Express comes out.

01:47:58.000 Everybody finds out about this issue.

01:48:00.000 And the pharmaceutical companies are just raking it in, raking it in.

01:48:05.000 And they've made a bunch of people addicted.

01:48:09.000 They've created all these addicts by giving them this access, this insane access.

01:48:13.000 Like, what's wrong with you?

01:48:14.000 My back hurts.

01:48:14.000 Here's a prescription.

01:48:15.000 Go right next door.

01:48:16.000 And they go right next door and they give them pills.

01:48:18.000 And the hardest pills to kick on the planet. 1.00

01:48:21.000 I mean, within a couple of days, these fucking things are deep in your bones and you're fucked. 1.00

01:48:26.000 I have a relative. 1.00

01:48:28.000 Fucking guy just lost everything. 1.00

01:48:30.000 He became a junkie. 1.00

01:48:32.000 I watched him have a regular job and then just become a lying piece of shit that never works and just always is on pills. 1.00

01:48:39.000 It's fucking legal heroin. 1.00

01:48:41.000 That's exactly what it is. 1.00

01:48:43.000 It's even crazier.

01:48:45.000 It's more concentrated.

01:48:47.000 You just have to swallow it.

01:48:48.000 You don't even have to shoot up. 1.00

01:48:49.000 You don't have to fucking get a rope. 0.99

01:48:52.000 You don't have to get a needle. 0.99

01:48:53.000 You don't have to stick a needle in your arm and find a vein.

01:48:56.000 Just pop a pill.

01:48:56.000 You don't have to do any of that.

01:48:58.000 Boom. 1.00

01:48:59.000 Suck on it. 1.00

01:49:02.000 And then you need it. 1.00

01:49:03.000 It's just unbelievable that we are living in a country where weed is still a class one drug.

01:49:09.000 Schedule one.

01:49:09.000 Sorry.

01:49:10.000 Isn't it sweet?

01:49:10.000 It's cute.

01:49:10.000 Did you see the United States response?

01:49:13.000 The New York Times wrote an op-ed saying we should, yeah. 0.94

01:49:16.000 And the government had a response, and the government's response is fucking hilarious. 1.00

01:49:23.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

01:49:23.000 What is it? 1.00

01:49:24.000 I'm looking for it right now.

01:49:27.000 Dave Seaman pulled it up.

01:49:29.000 If you look on my Twitter from July 31st, I retweeted it. 0.98

01:49:34.000 But the response is so goddamn goofy. 0.99

01:49:37.000 Marijuana use affects the developing brain. 0.99

01:49:40.000 Okay, here's the problem.

01:49:42.000 All of their arguments are all about children.

01:49:46.000 Well, they're talking about marijuana use amongst adults.

01:49:49.000 It had no bearing in the conversation.

01:49:52.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:49:53.000 It's completely irrelevant.

01:49:54.000 But their first two points are about children.

01:49:57.000 Marijuana use affects the developing brain.

01:49:59.000 Substance use in school-aged children has a detrimental effect on their academic achievement.

01:50:05.000 Yeah, you wonder why.

01:50:06.000 First of all, it's substance use, which includes alcohol, which is legal.

01:50:09.000 It includes oxycodones, which are legal. 0.99

01:50:12.000 It includes a lot of shit, which is legal. 0.99

01:50:14.000 Yeah, a lot of things acute. 0.99

01:50:16.000 Students who received, and this is on the fucking federal government's website, students who received earned D's or F's were more likely to be current users of marijuana. 0.76

01:50:27.000 Than those who earned A's. 0.97

01:50:30.000 Yeah.

01:50:31.000 Okay.

01:50:32.000 Whatever.

01:50:34.000 They're high and they're not paying attention in class.

01:50:36.000 What are you trying to say?

01:50:37.000 They're probably getting high because they're not paying attention in class. 1.00

01:50:39.000 School, for the most part, sucks a fat dick. 1.00

01:50:42.000 And that's probably one of the reasons why they're high as fuck and not paying attention. 1.00

01:50:45.000 You're trying to stick a round kid into a square hole and most kids don't like it. 0.99

01:50:50.000 And most kids that are creative, anybody that thinks outside the box, anybody that has...

01:50:54.000 Any sort of aspirations in any sort of alternative career outside of the academic process of getting a degree, getting a job, getting a cubicle, following this very rigid pattern.

01:51:06.000 Yeah, the people have a problem with it.

01:51:08.000 People have a problem with people telling them what to do.

01:51:10.000 And they get D's or F's.

01:51:12.000 Yeah, they're more likely to be the kind of kids that'll get high.

01:51:15.000 Right, and that's why Finland has the best fucking education system in the world because they have very personalized education because they know everyone isn't uniform robots that fit into a perfect little thing, a perfect package that everything's standardized and this and that. 0.99

01:51:28.000 And when we're talking about the vapid nature of people who take all these fucking drugs to try to fill this void or eat upholstery and tape and shit and glue... 0.98

01:51:39.000 I mean, you know, when you're living in a culture that tells you that working is the best, like, if you work hard, you can get anything you want, and that's just fucking not true anymore, man. 0.97

01:51:49.000 The American dream isn't available for everyone.

01:51:51.000 It never really was.

01:51:53.000 And it's just not possible anymore. 0.97

01:51:55.000 And I think people just still want to hold on to this dying fucking dream. 0.97

01:51:58.000 And we work harder than almost every other fucking industrialized nation. 0.98

01:52:01.000 We're the only country, literally, North Korea and Saudi Arabia both offer this and we don't. 0.94

01:52:08.000 Paid maternity leave. 0.99

01:52:09.000 We don't even offer paid maternity leave.

01:52:11.000 Yeah, it is crazy.

01:52:12.000 It's just nuts.

01:52:13.000 It's like, I think that we just put work above all else and we're just working ourselves to death.

01:52:18.000 And it's really not what life is all about.

01:52:20.000 Like, even if you wanted to work and get money, Really, what are the chances of you getting your dream job where it doesn't feel like you're working? 0.99

01:52:28.000 So, ultimately, you're going to be fucking miserable, working your ass off just to get the money, sitting in traffic, fucking coming home, you can't even have time to fuck your wife or make dinner, and it's just like this horrible cycle. 1.00

01:52:41.000 Of course that they're going to abuse shit. 1.00

01:52:43.000 Of course you're going to abuse drugs. 1.00

01:52:45.000 There's no purpose, because the purpose that you've put as your god is money. 0.99

01:52:49.000 And as much as we all love to buy shit, at the end of the day, that's not going to fill the void of what the meaning of life is and why you're here. 0.95

01:52:57.000 That's the real issue with materialism as well, is a lot of times people resort to materialism to sort of placate themselves because they're so miserable with their job. 0.99

01:53:06.000 At least I'm going to get a reward. 0.99

01:53:07.000 I'm going to buy that fucking Lexus. 1.00

01:53:09.000 They're at least going to get themselves a nice watch. 1.00

01:53:11.000 They're at least going to get themselves a big TV. That's going to at least make me feel better for this fucking creepy existence that I've sort of locked myself into that I get to do until I'm 65 and then what? 0.85

01:53:24.000 Then what? 0.99

01:53:24.000 Then fucking watch my knees give out? 0.99

01:53:26.000 Watch my back give out? 1.00

01:53:28.000 Watch my body decay?

01:53:30.000 What are the options?

01:53:31.000 I don't know.

01:53:32.000 I would say to anybody that's listening to this that's confused, if there's another thing that you want to do, please at least try to do it.

01:53:42.000 Find a way.

01:53:43.000 Other people have.

01:53:45.000 This idea that you should work for a company in some thankless, loveless position and just keep doing it until the wheels fall off.

01:53:55.000 Don't have kids until you have to. 0.99

01:53:58.000 Don't fucking get a mortgage until you have to. 1.00

01:54:00.000 Don't do it. 1.00

01:54:01.000 Don't do it when you're young.

01:54:03.000 Don't lock yourself in to needing a certain amount of money every month.

01:54:08.000 Don't do it until it's mandatory, until it's necessary.

01:54:11.000 And you can find other paths.

01:54:13.000 People can find other paths. 1.00

01:54:14.000 You're not going to find it paying attention to the fucking news. 0.99

01:54:17.000 You're not going to find it paying attention to most school teachers. 0.99

01:54:20.000 You're not going to find it paying attention to...

01:54:22.000 Most of the standards that people hear applied to human beings. 0.98

01:54:29.000 That's why DC is so fucking weird. 0.95

01:54:31.000 That's where you live, right? 0.97

01:54:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:54:33.000 It's fucking creepy, man. 1.00

01:54:34.000 You're in the belly of the beast. 1.00

01:54:35.000 I'm getting out of there soon.

01:54:36.000 I told my boss, I was like, there's no way I can be here for another year.

01:54:39.000 I don't know.

01:54:39.000 Big Sur.

01:54:40.000 Big Sur.

01:54:42.000 Live in a cave.

01:54:43.000 Go the opposite.

01:54:43.000 No cell phone reception.

01:54:44.000 Do the Kerouac shit and just fucking move out there. 1.00

01:54:47.000 Satellite internet. 1.00

01:54:48.000 I'm serious, dude.

01:54:49.000 I'm going to take a long break, but... 0.99

01:54:51.000 But DC's so weird because everyone there, it's just like Hollywood for ugly people, you've heard that saying, but it's fucking true because everyone there's a predator. 0.99

01:54:58.000 And everyone there, they look like a pudgy-faced Karl Rove, baby-faced little doughboy. 0.99

01:55:04.000 And they're all like these white dudes wearing plaid. 0.99

01:55:07.000 And all they're doing is just trying to find out how they can fuck you over to try to get like, you know, use you to do this and it's just a super creepy predatory place and it's full of a lot of soulless people and they're all like, they've all navigated there because they feel like they can streamline their careers and just fuck over humanity essentially. 0.98

01:55:27.000 I mean, I know that they're obviously going there with more altruistic goals. 0.98

01:55:30.000 But it's just sad that they are bred to say, like, you know, this is all that matters is money and power, essentially. 0.98

01:55:36.000 And power just corrupts the shit out of people. 0.96

01:55:38.000 And they just lose sight of so much.

01:55:40.000 Like, once you're in that bubble, you can't really see outside of it.

01:55:44.000 And it's just all this, like... 0.97

01:55:46.000 Minuscule shit that you think that you're changing stuff and really like on the grand scheme of things you're just kind of perpetuating the same system and I just think it's bad. 0.96

01:55:54.000 I just feel like I'm, yeah, there's not really too many radical voices out there. 0.99

01:55:58.000 I have learned a lot more about like the incompetence of government. 0.99

01:56:01.000 Now that I'm living there, though, I feel like I've changed my mind about some things because I've seen how fucking stupid everyone is and how much in a bubble people are. 0.99

01:56:09.000 I'm like, okay, at least I understand why things are the way they are. 0.99

01:56:12.000 You mean as far as the ideas of conspiracy theories as opposed to just total incompetence?

01:56:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:56:16.000 I feel the same way.

01:56:18.000 The more I've paid attention to more things, the more I go, listen, man, there are conspiracies for sure.

01:56:24.000 They have always existed.

01:56:25.000 They probably will until we have total transparency as far as...

01:56:29.000 People's thoughts and actions, which may be coming a lot sooner than we think.

01:56:32.000 But more likely than not, there's terrible incompetence and then there's people that are capitalizing on events.

01:56:41.000 Exactly.

01:56:42.000 Because people capitalize on events, a lot of times people say, you've got to look who benefited from this happening.

01:56:47.000 Actually, no.

01:56:48.000 Because anytime any tragic event happens, people benefit from it.

01:56:52.000 So it doesn't mean they caused said tragic event.

01:56:55.000 And that's where a lot of these conspiracy theorists, they make this really egregious error in judgment.

01:57:01.000 Because it's not that they caused the event and that's why they're benefiting because they planned it out. 1.00

01:57:06.000 It's usually that shit is just fucked from the get-go. 1.00

01:57:11.000 Like 9-11 is a perfect example. 1.00

01:57:13.000 So many people have benefited from 9-11. 0.64

01:57:15.000 And there's a lot of people that try to directly correlate those people that have benefited from 9-11 with having planned out 9-11.

01:57:22.000 With very little evidence.

01:57:23.000 But there's an old saying, I forget how it goes exactly, but to paraphrase it, is like any tragedy that is not capitalized on is a waste.

01:57:35.000 And that this is like a staple of governments.

01:57:38.000 They look at any situation where things go wrong.

01:57:43.000 Like Oklahoma City, perfect example, when they blew up the federal building.

01:57:46.000 Whoever did it.

01:57:48.000 Whether it was Timothy McVeigh, whether it was the fucking Illuminati, whoever blew up that building, one of the things that happened was they started changing the laws on the ability to act against terrorism. 0.94

01:58:00.000 Homegrown terrorism, they used the term, not light-skinned terrorism, clean-skinned, I forget what the term that they started using. 0.97

01:58:09.000 Yeah, the idea of looking for a terrorist that, you know, is like a white man instead of looking for Arabs. 0.51

01:58:16.000 Oh, the homegrown.

01:58:17.000 Yeah, yeah, homegrown.

01:58:18.000 But it was like, I think the term is like literally clean-skinned terrorists or something like that, but they changed the laws.

01:58:24.000 They changed the laws directly because of the Oklahoma City bombings. 0.86

01:58:29.000 After I got propelled in the mainstream, they resurrected all the shit that I'd done about 9-11 because I used to be in the 9-11 truth movement. 1.00

01:58:36.000 And they were like, you're fucking crazy. 1.00

01:58:38.000 Here you are on video six years ago saying it was an inside job, all this shit. 1.00

01:58:41.000 And I was like, look, I don't think it was an inside job. 0.99

01:58:43.000 As a journalist, that would be extremely irresponsible to claim that you know anything.

01:58:48.000 All I can do is point out things that I feel are wrong with the official story.

01:58:52.000 I feel like there's a lot of things that are wrong with what we've been told.

01:58:54.000 Does that mean that we know what happened?

01:58:56.000 We can go out there and declare it?

01:58:57.000 No.

01:58:58.000 And really, at this point, all we can do is point out the people that benefited, the people that exploited it, because it's just the fact that you're just called a conspiracy theorist.

01:59:11.000 It's this catch-all phrase that you can just use to shut down debate.

01:59:14.000 But I still have some questions about 9-11.

01:59:16.000 I have a lot of questions about 9-11.

01:59:17.000 But I don't go out there and say it was an inside job.

01:59:21.000 Well, what specifically do you have questions about?

01:59:22.000 I have questions about the insider trading, the fact that there were dozens and dozens of warnings beyond just the initial PDB given to Condoleezza Rice saying Bin Laden determined to strike within the US. There's like dozens and dozens more directly to the top of the intelligence.

01:59:35.000 And the fact that they...

01:59:37.000 I don't blame that just on incompetence.

01:59:40.000 I think that someone turned a blind eye at the very least in that respect. 0.98

01:59:43.000 And then we know that people bet that the stocks would fail and they fucking made a shitload of money on it. 0.80

01:59:48.000 Who were those people? 0.94

01:59:49.000 They never investigated it.

01:59:51.000 So there's just certain things like that that make me raise eyebrows.

01:59:55.000 But, you know, do I go out and say... 0.99

01:59:58.000 Building 7 and shit? 0.98

01:59:59.000 Like, no, because I just think at this point, all we can do is point to the questions that we have and point to how they've used the event. 0.99

02:00:05.000 But I think that in terms of all these school shootings and shit, the problem with this movement is that it started off, I was drawn to it because I'm like, I, you know, I like to question the narratives that I'm given because I think that they lie about a lot of shit and rewrite history. 0.99

02:00:19.000 But then it's turned into this kind of conspiracy culture where there's like a conspiracy like fucking ink. 0.99

02:00:25.000 It's like making money off everything and you're capitalizing on everything. 0.96

02:00:29.000 Everyone wants to be this celebrity on YouTube making these fucking paranoid videos about the Illuminati and every school shootings controlled and a false flag and I'm just like this is just that makes me just never want to touch that shit again because I'm just like you guys have actually ruined just asking questions like yes we should all ask questions but when you're just going out there within hours of every event saying it's a false flag You're actually making people like never wanting to question like the origin of these things and that's dangerous. 0.93

02:00:57.000 Well, which is disinformation agent's job.

02:01:00.000 Absolutely. 0.96

02:01:00.000 The idea of a disinformation agent is someone who connects some really credible ideas with some wacky alien on the moon fucking conspiracies that are so ridiculous that it makes the other stuff that it's connected to seem ridiculous. 0.96

02:01:15.000 Exactly. 0.70

02:01:16.000 Have you ever read the debunking of all that, the insider trading stuff?

02:01:22.000 It's pretty interesting.

02:01:23.000 No.

02:01:23.000 What is the debunking?

02:01:24.000 Well, you can go to Snopes.

02:01:26.000 Snopes has it.

02:01:27.000 Here, I'll read it.

02:01:29.000 In the days just prior to the September 11th attacks, large quantities of stock in United and American Airlines were traded by persons with foreknowledge of the upcoming 9-11 attacks, right?

02:01:41.000 That's what everybody parrots.

02:01:43.000 False.

02:01:46.000 We're good to go.

02:02:10.000 In the month prior to 11 September, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

02:02:16.000 Unusual trading activity involving American United stock was noted by market analysts, who at the time had no idea what to make of it.

02:02:24.000 Wildly unusual discrepancies in the put-and-call ratio, 25 to 100 times normal, were reportedly observed in stock options of the two airlines.

02:02:34.000 In one case, Bloomberg, Trade Book, Electronic Trade Center, Trading system identified option volume in UAL, a parent of United Airlines, on 16th of August 2001. That was 36 times higher than usual.

02:02:48.000 But it was during the final few trading days that the most unusual variances of activity occurred.

02:02:57.000 Highly publicized allegations of insider trading have advanced.

02:03:01.000 9-11 generally rests on reports of unusual pre-9-11 trading activities in companies whose stock plummeted after the attacks.

02:03:08.000 Some unusual trading did, in fact, occur, but each such trade proved to have an innocuous explanation.

02:03:15.000 For example...

02:03:16.000 The volume of put options, instruments that pay off only when a stock drops in price, surge in the parent company of United Airlines of September 6th and American Airlines of September 10th.

02:03:27.000 Highly suspicious trading on its face, yet further investigation has revealed.

02:03:32.000 That the trading had no connection with 9-11 and a single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to Al-Qaeda purchased 95% of the UAL puts on September 6th as a part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American Airlines on September 10th.

02:03:55.000 Similarly, much of the seemingly suspicious trading in American on September 10th was traced to a specific U.S.-based options trading newsletter faxed to its subscribers on Sunday, September 9th, which recommended these trades.

02:04:12.000 The SEC and FBI, aided by other agencies and the securities industry, devoted enormous resources to investigating this issue, including securing the cooperation of many foreign governments.

02:04:26.000 These investigators have found that the apparently suspicious consistently proved innocuous.

02:04:35.000 So what they're saying is that the same company also bought a shitload of shares.

02:04:40.000 What source is this?

02:04:41.000 I know it's on Snopes, but what's the actual citation?

02:04:43.000 That's a good question.

02:04:45.000 Because I just read the CBS report, because someone was asking about this, and I wanted to refresh my memory.

02:04:50.000 And, I mean, people to this day claim that they still don't know.

02:04:54.000 And even the 9-11 Commission said that they didn't investigate who...

02:05:06.000 We're good to go.

02:05:26.000 Yeah.

02:05:30.000 Yeah.

02:05:43.000 The week of 9-11. 0.96

02:05:44.000 So it's like there's just things that I just don't fucking get. 0.91

02:05:47.000 And I just feel like it was thrown under the rug and the fact that Saudi Arabia basically financed this whole operation with Pakistan and we flew out all of Bin Laden's family. 0.99

02:05:56.000 That to me is just like, what the fuck is that? 0.94

02:05:58.000 So even if you don't believe anything else, if you have no other questions, the fact that we are still tight with Saudi Arabia funding them, allies with them, and they essentially like knew about the attacks and helped finance these hijackers is insane to me. 0.99

02:06:11.000 That's insane.

02:06:12.000 Yeah.

02:06:12.000 Well, the word they is very weird, too.

02:06:15.000 When you start, they did this and they funded that.

02:06:17.000 Who is they?

02:06:18.000 Well, we know proof.

02:06:20.000 No, no, no.

02:06:21.000 We know Bob Graham. 0.98

02:06:23.000 Look at fucking Senator Bob Graham has been screaming about this on the floor for the last 10 years saying they actually do know that they were financed by the Saudi Arabian government, that the Saudi Arabian government knew and the intelligence services knew about these hijackers, where they were. 0.99

02:06:37.000 And it's just unbelievable. 0.98

02:06:39.000 And is it possible that our allegiance to Saudi Arabia financially is greater than the desire for justice?

02:06:47.000 Yeah.

02:06:48.000 That we make so much money from Saudi Arabian oil.

02:06:51.000 I think it's very clear.

02:06:52.000 Yeah.

02:06:52.000 And that's obviously probably the same reason why Bin Laden's family was shipped out of the country.

02:06:57.000 There's just so much money involved. 0.93

02:06:59.000 I guess it just sickens me because if it really was the biggest deal in the world where they can implement a domestic police state and kill a million Iraqis and continue out this giant war on terror, wiretapping the planet because of it, the fact that they didn't want to investigate Saudi Arabia because the oil money or whatever the fuck trumps the justice, 0.97

02:07:17.000 that says it all. 0.91

02:07:18.000 It certainly does. 0.98

02:07:19.000 It certainly says that there's some creepy shit going on and that this has been the way it's always been. 0.98

02:07:24.000 I mean, this is the way they've always done business. 0.98

02:07:26.000 There's a massive, massive amount of money in oil.

02:07:29.000 The oil money is so hard for any of us to even...

02:07:34.000 When you especially start talking about these oligarch families, these families that have insane amounts of money, they're not publicly traded companies.

02:07:45.000 They don't have to pay taxes because they own countries.

02:07:48.000 So the ideas that we have of the richest men in the world, they're not really entirely accurate because our idea of Warren Buffet and Bill Gates and what about these Prince King dudes that nobody knows about who own oil?

02:08:01.000 They own massive amounts of money.

02:08:04.000 I mean, the amount of money that these kings have and these princes and sheiks, has anybody ever accurately got a reading on how much money they have?

02:08:15.000 Everyone watched House of Saud because it gives a really good background on Saudi Arabia.

02:08:18.000 But I mean, it basically is like a hundred-year-old regime because they just discovered oil and they rise to this status.

02:08:25.000 And if you just look at Saudi Arabia's relationship with the U.S., Like we said, it tells you everything you need to know because of the utter hypocrisy in terms of human rights standards. 1.00

02:08:33.000 I mean, Saudi Arabia is fucking disgusting. 1.00

02:08:36.000 Zero rights for women. 1.00

02:08:38.000 They used to execute gay people. 0.99

02:08:40.000 I think they just imprisoned them for life now. 0.91

02:08:42.000 So if we want to talk about Russia's gay law, that's fine as well we should. 0.98

02:08:46.000 But for fuck's sake, let's talk about Saudi Arabia as well. 0.99

02:08:49.000 What is up with Russia's gay law though? 0.99

02:08:51.000 Why are they so worried about gay people?

02:08:55.000 I think Russia, you know, we're talking about a country that Soviet Union collapsed, what, like 30 years ago? 0.98

02:09:01.000 So they're just like, I think they're going through a lot of fucking weird transitions where they're just kind of going through this evolutionary process. 0.83

02:09:08.000 I'm not trying to defend them at all. 0.99

02:09:09.000 I think the gay law is terrible. 1.00

02:09:12.000 And they have a lot of horrible crackdowns on press freedom as well. 0.99

02:09:15.000 But I think it's just completely like apples and oranges when you're looking at Russia and you're like, how come you aren't as fucking free as us? 0.79

02:09:21.000 It's like, well, the Soviet Union just collapsed 30 years ago. 0.56

02:09:23.000 Like, they're in a weird place. 1.00

02:09:26.000 And yeah, they're run by a bunch of oligarchs and it's a lot of fucked up shit going on. 1.00

02:09:29.000 But I just don't understand the totally egregious demonization of Russia when at the same time, you know, all these partnerships are just so much crazier. 1.00

02:09:39.000 Yeah, we got to keep our mouth shut about them because that's where we're getting our oil from.

02:09:42.000 It's pretty simple.

02:09:43.000 Yeah.

02:09:43.000 It is.

02:09:44.000 It's very simple.

02:09:45.000 I'd have to go pee again.

02:09:48.000 It's a slippery, slimy world. 0.92

02:09:50.000 And Abby Martin has the bladder of a small boy's fist. 1.00

02:09:59.000 Well, we've managed to piss off a lot of groups today. 0.66

02:10:01.000 I think we should be proud.

02:10:03.000 Everybody hates us now. 0.89

02:10:04.000 The Saudi Arabians, the Jews, probably the Palestinians, Dennis Prager. 0.92

02:10:10.000 Who else?

02:10:12.000 Hillary Clinton's probably mad at us. 1.00

02:10:14.000 Everyone's going to go.

02:10:15.000 Petraeus is pissed.

02:10:17.000 Yeah, they're all going to go down the list.

02:10:19.000 We live in weird times.

02:10:21.000 It's a weird time to do an internet show, too.

02:10:26.000 Because you don't have a boss.

02:10:27.000 You can never do this.

02:10:28.000 You can never have this kind of a show and put it on television. 0.96

02:10:31.000 Because if you did try to record it, someone would come along and they would chop this out or hack that out and you can't talk shit about them or this or... 0.52

02:10:41.000 It's not the way it goes anymore. 0.96

02:10:44.000 We live in a weird world.

02:10:45.000 This world is changing too.

02:10:47.000 It's getting weirder and weirder.

02:10:49.000 And I wonder what it's going to be like 50, 100 years from now.

02:10:52.000 If you go back and...

02:10:54.000 I was looking at this video of Chicago.

02:10:57.000 And it was Chicago at the turn of the 20th century.

02:11:02.000 From the 19th century to the 20th century.

02:11:04.000 It was like the early, early days of Chicago.

02:11:06.000 And there's these people that are like riding horses down the street.

02:11:11.000 And I don't remember when the first cars came about.

02:11:14.000 It was like the 1800s, right?

02:11:16.000 The late 1800s they first had cars.

02:11:17.000 So there was like a couple cars on the streets of Chicago, early 1900s.

02:11:22.000 You look at this place, and you see this very quaint existence.

02:11:27.000 These people lived in the early 20th century.

02:11:30.000 We're talking about the difference between now and 100 years from now, as opposed to 100 years ago, early 20th century Chicago. 0.99

02:11:37.000 There was this video of these people riding fucking horses. 1.00

02:11:42.000 Horse-drawn carriages and shit. 1.00

02:11:44.000 It's so weird. 0.99

02:11:45.000 There was a couple cars, you know, there were these weird, goofy-ass cars that go, like, five miles an hour, run on steam and shit, but the difference between then and now is just stunning. 0.94

02:11:56.000 That's why we don't need, like, DC. Like, we don't need these representatives. 0.97

02:12:00.000 We don't own horseback anymore. 0.99

02:12:01.000 We don't have the fucking Pony Express. 0.98

02:12:03.000 Like, we don't need these weird representatives that represent, like, 30,000 people, like, going and voicing. 0.99

02:12:08.000 It's like, the Electoral College is totally fucking irrelevant. 0.90

02:12:11.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:12:12.000 It's all bullshit. 0.99

02:12:13.000 But do you think that it should be like, is it possible that when you see people like Mitt Romney or you see people that are Scientologists, that people could be too easily manipulated and that somehow or another this has to be filtered through representatives that understand the law. 0.99

02:12:30.000 But at least we know that these representatives who are going to cast the vote for their constituents, these people are educated, these people are moral, these people are of high standards and high moral fabric.

02:12:42.000 It's gross.

02:12:43.000 The idea is gross because it's very elitist.

02:12:46.000 But if you lived in Utah, and I love Utah, I just got back, would you allow the popular vote to decide a lot of things if you knew that there was a giant percentage of people that were in a weird cult that had some strange rules?

02:13:03.000 But look, if the popular vote was replace the Electoral College, then New York and California, which is full of, I think, a lot more intelligent people, would have much more of a poll.

02:13:13.000 And you just don't even see politicians giving a fuck about those states because it all comes back to the, like, they know that it's going to go this way or that way. 0.98

02:13:20.000 And it's just, it's disgusting. 0.98

02:13:21.000 But the numbers that fly over states are gigantic.

02:13:24.000 Right.

02:13:25.000 300 million people, 350, whatever it is in the country.

02:13:28.000 Right.

02:13:28.000 How many of them are in New York, Chicago, San Francisco, LA? Is it a third?

02:13:35.000 Because the other two-thirds are dangerous.

02:13:37.000 You're right. 1.00

02:13:39.000 Those fucking creepers. 1.00

02:13:41.000 There's a giant percentage that God guns and ram. 1.00

02:13:47.000 Well, at least...

02:13:47.000 Okay, so at least Europe...

02:13:49.000 This two-party dictatorship is just crushing us, man.

02:13:51.000 Because, you know, you have money in politics, which is like people spend half their time, if not more, fundraising.

02:13:58.000 Right. 0.97

02:13:58.000 So how could we ever get these people to really care about changing shit if they're just trying to make money to win the next election? 0.97

02:14:04.000 And the elections here are just disgusting. 1.00

02:14:06.000 This dog and pony show, it's like this fucking celebrity. 1.00

02:14:09.000 They spent a billion dollars last time. 0.99

02:14:11.000 You know, if you look at Europe, you can argue about the parliamentary system because of course there's fascist parties that get in and that's not good.

02:14:19.000 But at least they have the avenues for other voices other than like two parties.

02:14:24.000 And I think that it's just really dangerous to have this system.

02:14:27.000 There was an interesting story in The Guardian a couple weeks ago that was the rise of data and the death of politics.

02:14:38.000 And the idea was that tech pioneers in the U.S. are advocating a new data-based approach to governance, algorithmic regulation.

02:14:46.000 But if technology provides the answers to society's problems, what happens to governments?

02:14:51.000 And this idea was sort of...

02:14:53.000 They're sort of extrapolating on that.

02:14:55.000 That we don't need these representatives anymore.

02:14:59.000 They're a legacy. 1.00

02:15:01.000 They're this weird system that was in place when you had to fucking attach a note to a pigeon and send that motherfucker loose to get the word out. 1.00

02:15:09.000 We don't need that anymore. 0.99

02:15:11.000 You could directly, through your phone, you could directly cast your opinion on whatever it may be.

02:15:17.000 And if we still have a representative system...

02:15:20.000 You could make the argument that that's suppressive.

02:15:24.000 That's suppressive of the individual's right to choose for themselves.

02:15:29.000 And then GCHQ can manipulate the polls.

02:15:31.000 I'm just joking.

02:15:32.000 But I think decentralization is really...

02:15:34.000 I think it's really key.

02:15:36.000 And with technology, you see things like Bitcoin working outside the system.

02:15:39.000 I think that if we can maintain net neutrality, if the FCC wants to implement that and be fucking for the people for once instead of telecom whores, then we can really create some sort of decentralization online and try to create other avenues outside the system.

02:15:56.000 It's just a dangerous world, because as you're saying, the more information that we have, the less relevant these authority and establishment systems will be.

02:16:05.000 But at the same time, it can almost trap ourselves in a box, like the algorithms online.

02:16:10.000 It can cater your own biases toward you, where all of your Google search results are catered toward your bias and your preferential searching habits and stuff.

02:16:19.000 So it's like the information that you're seeking might be different than the information she's seeking.

02:16:24.000 And that's not good to a free and open society, too.

02:16:27.000 Yeah, that is weird, right?

02:16:28.000 The confirmation bias that comes from surrounding yourself with like-minded people.

02:16:33.000 Exactly.

02:16:34.000 You get really weird groups.

02:16:38.000 I like to go to very bizarre websites and message boards and listen to people just debate about things.

02:16:44.000 People that I just never would come in contact with in real life.

02:16:47.000 And, you know, there's some right-wing Republican websites out there that are so bizarre.

02:16:54.000 They're so strange.

02:16:55.000 It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

02:16:56.000 You guys are serious?

02:16:57.000 Like, there was a Sarah Palin website launch recently.

02:17:01.000 You know about that?

02:17:02.000 Yeah.

02:17:02.000 She's got her own online TV channel, which costs more than Netflix.

02:17:06.000 That's where Liz Wall's going to be working. 1.00

02:17:07.000 Liz Wall's going to get a job there, probably. 1.00

02:17:09.000 You think?

02:17:10.000 That's the only thing she could probably do.

02:17:11.000 Smart enough to do.

02:17:12.000 But I was reading the comments and it's like they were trolls.

02:17:18.000 It's like they were comedy trolls.

02:17:21.000 And then I realized you look at the guy's profile and you follow his other comments and you go, oh no, you're real!

02:17:28.000 Oh my god, you're a real person!

02:17:31.000 God, in capital letters, is looking out for America.

02:17:35.000 God blesses this fine land.

02:17:39.000 And people like Sarah Palin, and true in all capital, Americans, are what we need to get this country back on track. 0.99

02:17:48.000 There's a few shitheads that I follow on Twitter just for comedy, but they're fucking serious. 0.99

02:17:54.000 They're legit. 0.99

02:17:56.000 Dude, it's so true, man.

02:17:59.000 Everyone check out Margaret Heffernan.

02:18:01.000 She has this awesome TED Talk about willful blindness, and she has a whole book on...

02:18:07.000 Competition and the confirmation bias and how her whole thing, it sounds so simple, but the way she explains it is just like so mind-blowing.

02:18:13.000 She's just like, you need to interact with people who don't think what you do.

02:18:16.000 This is like a part of human progress.

02:18:20.000 And it'll reaffirm and you'll learn.

02:18:22.000 You can't just surround yourself with yes-men your whole life.

02:18:25.000 You need to be challenged every day. 0.99

02:18:27.000 Like, look, and not necessarily surrounding yourself with fucking trolls who are telling you, you know, what Sarah Palin's fucking great, but watching the video like that dude. 0.99

02:18:34.000 Like, the thing that we just watched about Israel. 0.99

02:18:35.000 The Dennis Prager thing, yeah.

02:18:36.000 Like, do that.

02:18:38.000 See someone else's point of view.

02:18:39.000 Exactly.

02:18:40.000 This is one of the guys that I follow.

02:18:42.000 Whatever label we stick on ourselves, the kingdom, all caps, of heaven, is for who pleases the Father, all caps, in heaven.

02:18:55.000 Wow.

02:18:56.000 I love this guy.

02:18:57.000 Wow.

02:18:57.000 Who is it?

02:18:58.000 Some dickwah that I'm not going to publicize. 0.55

02:19:01.000 Is it an egg? 0.99

02:19:02.000 Some little egg dickhead. 0.99

02:19:05.000 No, he's got a face. 1.00

02:19:07.000 He's just like some really retarded right-wing dude. 1.00

02:19:10.000 I love reading his stuff, though, because I just go, what? 0.97

02:19:14.000 You're a real guy?

02:19:16.000 You're right, dude. 0.97

02:19:16.000 And I'm a victim of it, too, because it's like, who the fuck wants to hang out with people who are, you know, that you're going to be fighting? 0.97

02:19:23.000 They're pro-Israel, though. 0.98

02:19:24.000 This guy's super pro-Israel.

02:19:25.000 Of course.

02:19:26.000 Barack Hussein Obama used the IRS to attack America. 0.98

02:19:30.000 This is what lying, low-life socialist, communist, anti-Israel, anti-U.S. demagogue does. 1.00

02:19:39.000 If they think Obama's a communist, wow, they need to really read some shit, dude. 1.00

02:19:45.000 He's clearly a socialist. 1.00

02:19:46.000 Have you seen Obamacare?

02:19:49.000 Obamacare is a disaster.

02:19:51.000 The website alone has cost a billion trillion dollars and it eats babies. 0.70

02:19:55.000 It runs on babies. 0.81

02:19:57.000 Christian babies. 0.99

02:19:58.000 That's how you know someone's a very uncritical thinker if they think Obama is remotely a socialist.

02:20:02.000 Well, yeah.

02:20:03.000 I don't know.

02:20:03.000 But these crazy super religious folks also back Israel because they believe that Israel is where Jesus is coming back.

02:20:11.000 Right. 0.92

02:20:12.000 Right?

02:20:12.000 Like, did you ever see the Vice piece where they send these folks who are like super-duper religious cuckoo heads?

02:20:20.000 No. 0.99

02:20:20.000 They fucking make their pilgrimage. 0.99

02:20:21.000 They're Christians from America, and they make their pilgrimage to Israel, and they follow these people around, and they're reading scripture like out loud on this fucking raft as they go, oh, it's glorious. 1.00

02:20:33.000 It's glorious in all its shitheadiness. 1.00

02:20:35.000 Joe, have you seen An Idiot Abroad? 1.00

02:20:39.000 Dude, it's fucking hilarious. 1.00

02:20:41.000 It makes everything just look like shit. 0.99

02:20:43.000 Like, it makes all the seven wonders of the world just look terrible. 1.00

02:20:46.000 Like, this guy's just miserable. 0.98

02:20:47.000 He goes and puts him in the worst situations, puts him in the worst hotels and shit, makes his life a living hell, and he's just going around traveling, complaining about everything. 1.00

02:20:54.000 It's fucking hysterical. 0.99

02:20:55.000 It's awesome. 0.98

02:20:56.000 Ricky Gervais is a genius.

02:20:57.000 But I want to ask you, have you seen the Vice special on Fukushima?

02:21:01.000 Yes.

02:21:01.000 Oh my good God.

02:21:02.000 Yeah.

02:21:03.000 It's terrifying.

02:21:04.000 I have a friend, my friend Ensign Inoue, he goes over there and he provides aid with people.

02:21:10.000 He's Japanese.

02:21:11.000 Yeah.

02:21:12.000 Well, he was born in Hawaii, but he's lived in Japan for a long time and is Japanese, you know, his nationality, his ethnicity rather.

02:21:19.000 But he's gone over there...

02:21:22.000 A bunch of times.

02:21:23.000 He goes over there and does a lot of humanitarian aid.

02:21:27.000 He's like, it's really strange.

02:21:29.000 He goes, you're over there and you feel normal. 0.94

02:21:32.000 He goes, you feel fine, but then you look at your radioactive Geiger counter or whatever, and it's just fucking off the charts. 0.94

02:21:39.000 It's like...

02:21:41.000 You can only stay there for a certain amount of time because you don't feel anything.

02:21:44.000 Right.

02:21:44.000 That's what's really weird about it.

02:21:45.000 That's what's so fucked up about radiation. 0.97

02:21:47.000 But I just, I mean, even though I study this shit every day, I did not realize until you see it, like until you see that Vice special and you see the tanks, how every day they're filling this whole cool, like, reactor up with fresh water, draining the radioactive water, 0.98

02:22:03.000 like, multiple times a day, storing it in I think? 0.98

02:22:26.000 What are they going to do?

02:22:27.000 I don't know. 0.97

02:22:28.000 And then the Yakuza, the Japanese government and TEPCO are hiring the Yakuza mafia there to help with the fucking cleanup because they owe them debt. 0.94

02:22:36.000 So all these old Japanese men want to help. 1.00

02:22:39.000 They're like, we've worked on the reactors our whole life.

02:22:42.000 They're like, let us go.

02:22:43.000 We're old, we can die. 0.99

02:22:44.000 And they're wanting to sacrifice themselves and instead they're hiring mafia members from the Yakuza mob that have no idea what the fuck they're doing. 1.00

02:22:52.000 It's a fucking nightmare, man. 1.00

02:22:54.000 Really? 1.00

02:22:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:22:54.000 What can they do? 1.00

02:22:56.000 I mean, I know they have that idea to dig this giant pit and then have it surrounded with frozen cones.

02:23:03.000 That already didn't work.

02:23:04.000 That already failed.

02:23:05.000 That failed?

02:23:06.000 Yeah, the ice wall.

02:23:06.000 It sounded like some Superman stuff.

02:23:08.000 Yeah, like a fucking prison. 1.00

02:23:09.000 Fortress of Solitude. 1.00

02:23:10.000 That failed.

02:23:12.000 It didn't work?

02:23:13.000 Well, look at Chernobyl.

02:23:15.000 They have this giant sarcophagus that's cracking. 0.99

02:23:18.000 She was just telling me the other day that the nuclear waste, even with working reactors, they just have to dig a pit and put a fucking sign on it with a skull and crossbones. 0.77

02:23:28.000 Because they're like, well, in a million years, even though the radioactive energy will still be here, they're like, at least the future civilization here will know what a skull and crossbones is, and they won't be able to dig up this waste. 0.99

02:23:36.000 You're like, holy fuck, why are we dealing with an energy... 0.97

02:23:40.000 That we can't harness properly. 0.99

02:23:42.000 Like, it's a miracle and it's magic, but clearly we don't know what the fuck we're doing with it.

02:23:47.000 Well, you know what? 0.85

02:23:47.000 All it does is make steam. 0.85

02:23:49.000 Yeah, that's what's so crazy!

02:23:51.000 Yeah.

02:23:52.000 When you see what it really just is.

02:23:54.000 I thought that it did something like made electricity with a nuclear something. 0.98

02:23:59.000 They're splitting atoms and it just goes right through the wires and they're housing it in some giant fucking... 0.94

02:24:05.000 It's just steam. 0.97

02:24:05.000 No, they're making steam. 0.97

02:24:07.000 It's hot. 0.99

02:24:07.000 It's hot as fuck. 0.99

02:24:09.000 Couldn't they do that in a better way? 0.99

02:24:14.000 Seems like a lot of ways to make steam.

02:24:16.000 Can you just boil water? 1.00

02:24:19.000 What are you assholes doing? 1.00

02:24:21.000 You guys are making some shit that you can never shut off. 1.00

02:24:24.000 It's really crazy. 1.00

02:24:24.000 Right next to a fault line, right next to the ocean. 1.00

02:24:27.000 It's like, nothing can go wrong.

02:24:29.000 Well, they're all over the place, too.

02:24:30.000 The really bizarre thing is when you drive down the California coast and you realize that we are on a fault.

02:24:36.000 Like, California moves all the time. 0.99

02:24:38.000 And then you go on the way to San Diego, this is fucking nuclear power plants! 0.99

02:24:43.000 It's right there! 0.99

02:24:44.000 And guess what?

02:24:44.000 Similar design, except very small difference.

02:24:46.000 It's GE. It's a general electric design, and we have 22 sister reactors here in the U.S. that are almost identical to the Fukushima ones.

02:24:53.000 Well, the thing about the reactors that's super disturbing is people say, well, it's clean, it's efficient, it's very, you know, as far as like the access to the energy, it's very, very efficient.

02:25:07.000 But once those things go bad, they're bad forever.

02:25:12.000 So you have, as of now, there's only two spots.

02:25:16.000 But those two spots are toast. 0.99

02:25:18.000 Chernobyl and Fukushima are fucking toast. 1.00

02:25:21.000 Those areas are fucked for 100,000 years. 0.99

02:25:24.000 And then you have the storage of the nuclear waste from all the other places that are still operational, and you have this spot in Nevada where they have a fucking hole where Godzilla goes to eat his radioactive energy when he lands here. 1.00

02:25:37.000 I mean, what the fuck, man? 0.99

02:25:39.000 This is only 100 years, less than 100 years of splitting atoms, right? 0.99

02:25:45.000 Nuclear bomb, 1945, and here we are in 2014. Less than 100 years of you guys doing this shit, and you already have two spots that are broken. 0.98

02:25:54.000 You know, if you could look at the future, and you look at all the potential spots to go wrong, like if we had a hot map where you could, you know, everything that's blue is a nuclear reactor that's currently working and functional, 0.96

02:26:09.000 And you have the two red spots.

02:26:11.000 And then you look at all the potential for red spots, these blue ones, to go bad.

02:26:16.000 Like, God, we're going to fuck up a huge percentage of the world with this power source.

02:26:21.000 I don't know a better method, but if I lived in California, which I do, and it never fucking gets cloudy, which it doesn't, I would say maybe that solar thing is something you guys want to...

02:26:30.000 Let's just try it.

02:26:31.000 I mean, the thing is, it's not working.

02:26:33.000 I think that we really do need to shut down all reactors.

02:26:35.000 I know I've had someone on my show to talk about thorium.

02:26:38.000 I think we're good to go.

02:27:01.000 Whoa, where did that come from?

02:27:02.000 Oops, that was me.

02:27:04.000 But when they first saw the nuclear bomb go off on whatever the hell island it was that they saw the first explosion, you know, all they told them was just to wear little sunglasses out there.

02:27:14.000 There's that photo of all of them.

02:27:15.000 They like quoted Bhagavad Gita and they said, we've become death.

02:27:18.000 Like, what have we done?

02:27:19.000 Like the guy who like...

02:27:21.000 Yeah, that's Oppenheimer.

02:27:22.000 Yeah.

02:27:22.000 You ever heard him talk?

02:27:23.000 It's so creepy when Oppenheimer says it.

02:27:25.000 He quoted the Bhagavad Gita.

02:27:27.000 He says, I am become death, destroyer of worlds.

02:27:29.000 It's a really creepy...

02:27:30.000 Pull it up because it's a really bizarre...

02:27:34.000 Because when you actually hear it from Oppenheimer's voice, when he talks about how he felt and you see his face, the regret, because he was a part of this thing.

02:27:44.000 And that's not even nuclear energy.

02:27:46.000 That's nuclear bomb. 0.97

02:27:48.000 He decided at that point in time that they had made a tremendous, tremendous mistake.

02:27:54.000 And here we are, 2014, still our major source of electricity in the United States of America. 0.99

02:28:01.000 Everyone should check out Untold History of the United States, because in it, I learned that Reagan, fucking asshole, he was actually approached by Gorbachev To totally dismantle all the nuclear weapons. 0.99

02:28:13.000 He was just like, look, it's done. 0.99

02:28:15.000 Let's fucking close it all down. 0.84

02:28:17.000 And Reagan was like, no, because I'm senile and I believe in Star Wars and I think that we can create this giant space program and blah blah blah. 0.97

02:28:24.000 And he just said no.

02:28:25.000 And I blame him, dude.

02:28:27.000 He had the chance.

02:28:27.000 He had the golden ticket and he gave up on it, man.

02:28:30.000 You want to talk about conspiracies.

02:28:31.000 Have you ever looked into the Star Wars scientists that have mysteriously been murdered?

02:28:36.000 No.

02:28:37.000 Oh, good lord.

02:28:38.000 That's a weird one.

02:28:40.000 Here, Star Wars scientists.

02:28:46.000 Yeah, if you do that, if you type that in, first thing that pumps up is deaths, conspiracy, murdered.

02:28:53.000 Whoa.

02:28:54.000 Yeah, it's who killed all the British Star Wars scientists, and there's a bunch of different websites about it.

02:29:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:29:05.000 It's really fascinating how many people died, and the mysterious deaths.

02:29:11.000 All 25 workers on the United States Star Wars project were killed.

02:29:16.000 What?

02:29:17.000 Yeah.

02:29:18.000 What?

02:29:19.000 Yeah, they died in really weird ways. 0.99

02:29:21.000 They died in plane crashes and all sorts of shit. 0.99

02:29:24.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:29:25.000 Dude, it's just like the SEAL Team 6. All 25 workers in the United States Star Wars projects and the Stingray Torpedo projects.

02:29:34.000 Although the United Kingdom's Ministry of Defense still disputes these workers were connected to the Star Wars project, most workers died either having finished important projects or when they left for other employers.

02:29:46.000 Several of those who died had routinely expressed fears for their safety.

02:29:50.000 The manner of their deaths was also very curious and despite...

02:30:07.000 Fairly a suicide.

02:30:18.000 Fairly a suicide.

02:30:23.000 Mark Wisner, a software engineer for the MOD, was found dead with a plastic sack over his head and several feet of cling film wrapped around his head.

02:30:34.000 This was deemed an accident by the coroner, but was exactly the same way as Mark's colleague, Richard Poogh, who met his untimely end several weeks earlier.

02:30:48.000 Uh, Ashard Sharif, uh, an experienced defense contractor, was found dead after placing a ligature around his neck, tying the other end around a tree, and driving off in his car with the accelerator pedal jammed down.

02:31:04.000 The police felt this was a most unusual suicide method, but still deemed it a suicide.

02:31:10.000 Wow.

02:31:11.000 Yeah, he had last been seen in Bristol, um...

02:31:15.000 A long way from his home, looking into a guest house using cash, and was witnessed with a large bag of money.

02:31:24.000 These details, although known to the police, were never mentioned in his inquest.

02:31:29.000 There's a whole bunch of them.

02:31:31.000 There's a whole bunch of these very mysterious...

02:31:34.000 That's extremely disturbing. 0.97

02:31:35.000 Yeah, it's fucking fascinating, man. 0.99

02:31:37.000 It's fascinating how many of them died. 0.99

02:31:39.000 Because apparently Star Wars was total horseshit. 0.93

02:31:44.000 It was never going to work. 0.98

02:31:46.000 And they knew it from the jump.

02:31:47.000 And all the scientists that were connected to it died. 0.99

02:31:51.000 So all these people that could have been able to prove that these fuckers had just embezzled all this money and had used their defense contracts and spent all this cash, all the people connected to it that actually could prove the science behind it or disprove the science behind it are all dead. 0.99

02:32:09.000 That's insane. 1.00

02:32:10.000 That's when you know the CIA is up to some crazy shit. 1.00

02:32:13.000 It's amazing. 1.00

02:32:14.000 Well, it kind of makes sense.

02:32:16.000 Right.

02:32:17.000 It's all about profit at the end of the day, man.

02:32:19.000 It really is.

02:32:21.000 Yeah.

02:32:21.000 The story of Bertha Champagne, she was like the maid of Jeb Bush or Bush Sr.'s family, I forget who, and she was found crushed.

02:32:31.000 With an empty car that, like, you know, someone had driven an empty car backed up into the garage and crushed her to death. 0.73

02:32:38.000 And you're like, what did she know?

02:32:40.000 Like, clearly she was killed.

02:32:41.000 I mean, like, no one, an empty car just doesn't start and crush someone against the wall.

02:32:46.000 This is so crazy.

02:32:48.000 Yeah.

02:32:48.000 Between 1982 and 1986, 23 deaths of English scientists that work on the Star Wars related projects.

02:32:56.000 Professor Keith Bowden killed in an auto crash.

02:33:00.000 Jack Wolfenden died in a glider accident.

02:33:04.000 Ernest Brockway, suicide.

02:33:06.000 Stefan Drinkwater, suicide by strangulation.

02:33:09.000 Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Godley, missing, declared dead.

02:33:13.000 George Frank, suicide by hanging.

02:33:15.000 Stefan Oaks, suicide by hanging.

02:33:17.000 Jonathan Walsh, suicide by jumping from a building.

02:33:20.000 Jonathan Britton, suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning.

02:33:23.000 These are all within like a year or two of each other.

02:33:25.000 No way.

02:33:25.000 Ashar Sharif, that guy that we talked about, placing the rope around his neck and driving off.

02:33:30.000 This is crazy. 0.98

02:33:31.000 It's just like the DC madam, that woman who came out and she was like, I have all this shit that I'm going to say, and she's like, I'm never going to kill myself, and I can indict so many people, and all of a sudden she just killed herself, and everyone was like, oh, I guess she ended up killing herself. 0.98

02:33:43.000 You're like, do you think that that's just a little bit strange? 0.99

02:33:46.000 Yeah, DC madams, those don't have a long life. 1.00

02:33:50.000 Right.

02:33:50.000 Yeah, that's a bad profession to get into.

02:33:54.000 Yeah, you're going to take the most powerful murderers on the planet who essentially have all these methods and they have these organizations that kill for them.

02:34:03.000 Right.

02:34:04.000 I mean, they have, whether it's Blackwater or whatever. 0.97

02:34:06.000 I mean, if there is a Blackwater, please, if there's fucking Coca-Cola, there's RC Cola. 0.94

02:34:12.000 Exactly. 0.97

02:34:12.000 Okay? 0.97

02:34:12.000 There's some lower level organizations of mercenaries. 0.97

02:34:16.000 It's not like there's only Blackwater.

02:34:18.000 You could only go to Blackwater.

02:34:19.000 Exactly.

02:34:19.000 No, there's probably some dudes that are really good at being a mercenary.

02:34:22.000 They know how to keep their fucking mouth shut, and they don't go Eric Prince in the whole thing and do press conferences and change their name three or four times. 0.99

02:34:29.000 They might even have a fucking name. 1.00

02:34:31.000 Call Mike. 0.99

02:34:33.000 Mike used to be a Marine or a Green Beret or whatever, and he likes making $50,000 a week better.

02:34:39.000 Exactly.

02:34:40.000 That guy works for you.

02:34:41.000 Exactly. 1.00

02:34:42.000 There's gotta be a ton of those fucking people out there. 1.00

02:34:45.000 There's gotta be. 1.00

02:34:46.000 Absolutely, man.

02:34:47.000 Some DC Madam? 1.00

02:34:48.000 DC Madam. 1.00

02:34:49.000 That bitch is dead. 1.00

02:34:50.000 She's fucking murdered, bro. 1.00

02:34:52.000 And whatever happened to her, all of her notes and all of her... 1.00

02:34:56.000 She committed suicide.

02:34:58.000 Yeah.

02:34:58.000 That's the official line.

02:34:59.000 If you question it, you're an insane conspiracy theorist. 1.00

02:35:01.000 Well, you are an insane conspiracy theorist. 1.00

02:35:03.000 You have to admit. 1.00

02:35:04.000 I am.

02:35:05.000 You have to be. 1.00

02:35:06.000 If you are a conspiracy theorist, you're insane. 1.00

02:35:08.000 If you look into any conspiracy, you're an insane conspiracy theorist. 0.98

02:35:13.000 Which is crazy because conspiracies exist all the time on a local level.

02:35:17.000 People conspire to kill their kids, like that kid in the car, tragically, who the parents conspired to keep him in the car.

02:35:23.000 Isn't that awful? 0.95

02:35:23.000 So if conspiracies happen between parents to kill their children, why is it so fucking crazy to imagine that people at a higher level are conspiring stuff? 0.95

02:35:31.000 Because it's the whole, they wouldn't be able to keep it secret, blah, blah, blah.

02:35:34.000 I mean, we know that conspiracies exist. 0.99

02:35:37.000 Look at fucking Wall Street. 0.99

02:35:38.000 What is that? 1.00

02:35:39.000 Enron.

02:35:40.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:35:41.000 Look at Gulf of Tonkin.

02:35:42.000 Right.

02:35:43.000 Look at Operation Northwoods.

02:35:45.000 Exactly. 0.99

02:35:45.000 And look at the fucking, the Bush administration was thinking about doing a false flag event to get us into Iran. 0.99

02:35:50.000 Oh my god, I know. 0.99

02:35:51.000 Oh my god, I know too.

02:35:53.000 That was what Dick Cheney said.

02:35:55.000 What were they going to do?

02:35:56.000 Like fly a plane?

02:35:57.000 Something nutty.

02:35:58.000 That was Operation Northwoods where they were going to fly a plane and blow it up in the sky and blame it on the Cubans. 0.99

02:36:03.000 Arm Cuban friendlies attack Guantanamo Bay.

02:36:07.000 That was 62. Kennedy went, what?

02:36:09.000 Bitch, are you crazy? 1.00

02:36:11.000 He was like, no, no, no. 1.00

02:36:12.000 That was signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff folks.

02:36:15.000 That wasn't just some idle chatter.

02:36:17.000 They had signed off on that. 0.99

02:36:19.000 Can we talk about how stupid it is that we still, like, hate Cuba and have this blockade and seize on Cuba? 1.00

02:36:25.000 What the fuck is Cuba doing to us? 1.00

02:36:26.000 Very bizarre. 1.00

02:36:26.000 Just a Cold War grudge. 1.00

02:36:28.000 Like, just let Cuba just live. 0.97

02:36:30.000 How is Cuba worse than Saudi Arabia? 1.00

02:36:34.000 There you go.

02:36:35.000 Yeah.

02:36:35.000 Well, not only are they super close, and they make great cigars, and the women are really pretty, and they're great boxers and wrestlers, and they're right there.

02:36:43.000 Yeah, and I want to go.

02:36:45.000 I think I'm just saying this selfishly.

02:36:46.000 I don't want to not be able to go to Cuba. 1.00

02:36:48.000 I think it's just the stupidest thing in the world. 0.99

02:36:50.000 We demonize this country because we have this... 1.00

02:36:54.000 You know, communist grudge shit against them. 0.99

02:36:56.000 And they're actually incorporating a lot of different techniques. 0.99

02:37:00.000 The Castro family is like, look, we admit that a lot of things have failed in terms of the business side.

02:37:06.000 And we're being creative.

02:37:07.000 We're opening ourselves up to some capitalist elements.

02:37:10.000 And I just appreciate the fact that they're learning from mistakes, reinventing the wheel.

02:37:17.000 And I think that we just have a lot to learn.

02:37:19.000 I just think closing ourselves off from this tiny island nation is... 0.93

02:37:23.000 It's disgusting. 0.91

02:37:24.000 It's absurd. 0.98

02:37:25.000 And we still demonize them, you know? 1.00

02:37:27.000 Well, they are definitely fucked up, though. 1.00

02:37:29.000 I mean, their whole country and their system of government and their system of forcing occupation on people is pretty fucking creepy. 1.00

02:37:38.000 It's not great. 0.98

02:37:40.000 But I mean, this whole blockade, I just think, is a disgrace.

02:37:43.000 It's not good for anybody.

02:37:44.000 No.

02:37:44.000 And I think who knows what it would be like if we lifted the blockade.

02:37:47.000 I don't know.

02:37:47.000 But it's just, once again, U.S. and Israel are the only two countries in the world to uphold the blockade.

02:37:51.000 It's like, just fucking let it go, man. 0.93

02:37:54.000 Well, look what's going on with China, which was also an incredibly communist country, you know, and now they're really capitalist. 0.98

02:37:59.000 It's like really strange how things are changing and shifting.

02:38:03.000 You know, I think that Cuba is a very interesting place because, well, you remember when Jay-Z went to Cuba and he got in trouble?

02:38:12.000 And the media was like, oh, look it. 0.99

02:38:14.000 Does he know that fucking Che hated black people? 1.00

02:38:18.000 You're like, what are you talking about? 1.00

02:38:19.000 Like, what is going on?

02:38:20.000 It was the weirdest media coverage.

02:38:22.000 Didn't Che Guevara die in like 1964 or something?

02:38:24.000 Yeah.

02:38:24.000 When did Che Guevara die?

02:38:25.000 And he also went over to Angola and fought like the revolution in Africa.

02:38:29.000 So it's like, I don't know if that's really true, but it's just so crazy.

02:38:32.000 He was the perfect guy, though, to be on a t-shirt.

02:38:35.000 He just looked like such a great revolutionary.

02:38:37.000 I know people that wore a Che Guevara t-shirt that didn't know.

02:38:41.000 Remember there was that wave of Che Guevara support that happened like a decade ago or so?

02:38:47.000 And no one knew really what they were talking about?

02:38:49.000 It's like, you could look cool by having a Che Guevara t-shirt on.

02:38:53.000 People had Che Guevara tattoos and it's like...

02:38:56.000 Why?

02:38:57.000 What about Che?

02:38:58.000 Right. 1.00

02:38:59.000 Fucking... 1.00

02:38:59.000 You know? 1.00

02:39:02.000 He just looked like the guy.

02:39:04.000 And he would have hated it. 0.98

02:39:06.000 I mean, the fact that he's become this commercial figure, he would have fucking hated that. 0.96

02:39:10.000 It's just funny that he's become this icon of capitalism. 0.92

02:39:13.000 Well, it's a perfect example of these surface inquiries.

02:39:18.000 People just sort of look at it like...

02:39:20.000 I was badass.

02:39:22.000 No looking into it at all.

02:39:25.000 No trying to understand who he was or knowing deeply about who he was. 0.99

02:39:31.000 Yeah, this is like a baby with a fucking Che Guevara. 1.00

02:39:34.000 Even though Cuba's fucked up in a lot of ways... 1.00

02:39:36.000 It's a different way to live. 0.99

02:39:37.000 They don't have advertisements.

02:39:40.000 Old cars.

02:39:40.000 It's kind of cool.

02:39:41.000 They have these restored old cars driving around everywhere.

02:39:45.000 If you see modern Cuba, they have these 1950s cars they're driving around. 0.99

02:39:50.000 These old Chevys and shit. 0.98

02:39:52.000 It's really interesting. 0.99

02:39:53.000 I just want to go there and just learn because they don't use pesticides and shit. 0.96

02:39:57.000 Because of how closed off they are in a lot of ways, they've just adapted in a lot of interesting ways that I just think is... 0.97

02:40:04.000 It's fascinating, I think, that we have, you know...

02:40:07.000 I know a lot of athletes that fleed Cuba.

02:40:10.000 So, unfortunately, I've seen the worst side of it.

02:40:13.000 Talking to people that lived in Cuba under the Castro regime, people that tried to flee, got caught, you know, were forced back and then escaped again. 0.99

02:40:22.000 I mean, these fucking people got on boats and risked their lives. 0.98

02:40:26.000 There had to be something horribly wrong with the conditions they were living in to force them to do that. 0.99

02:40:33.000 But I would like to know if that's exacerbated by these policies of not allowing trade.

02:40:41.000 And who knows, like, if trade was opened up.

02:40:44.000 Trade and also the influence of foreigners coming in there and influencing the culture.

02:40:49.000 Exactly.

02:40:50.000 The tourists.

02:40:50.000 Exactly.

02:40:51.000 I mean, I don't, you know...

02:40:53.000 Yeah, we're basically, like, forcing the society to be closed off, and who knows, like, if they weren't, you know, if we allowed the fiber lines to get the internet.

02:41:00.000 And that's another problem, is we don't even, we've, like, blocked off the fiber optic, like, network from Cuba.

02:41:06.000 So it's like, let them have, like...

02:41:08.000 Do they have the internet at all?

02:41:10.000 They have like very limited internet and probably just on Gitmo, the US base there, which by the way, I'm going there next week.

02:41:15.000 I'm going to Guantanamo Bay.

02:41:18.000 Isn't that weird? 1.00

02:41:18.000 You can go to Cuba, but only the part of Cuba where it's a fucking jail. 1.00

02:41:22.000 And how much of it is just like a fuck you to the Cuban government? 1.00

02:41:24.000 Just to be like, we're going to build like this torture base here. 1.00

02:41:27.000 Yeah.

02:41:28.000 What?

02:41:28.000 Like on...

02:41:29.000 How did that happen?

02:41:30.000 It happened, obviously, in the 60s.

02:41:32.000 It was a long time ago.

02:41:33.000 They had that base there. 0.98

02:41:34.000 The military base had been there for a long-ass fucking time. 0.98

02:41:36.000 That was the Operation Northwoods. 1.00

02:41:38.000 They were going to bomb Guantanamo Bay and blame it on the Cubans. 1.00

02:41:42.000 Yeah, it is kind of fucked. 1.00

02:41:43.000 Is that how they're allowed to torture people? 1.00

02:41:45.000 We tortured some folks? 1.00

02:41:46.000 Is that how they're allowed to do that?

02:41:48.000 Because it's over there?

02:41:49.000 I mean, can you torture people on American soil?

02:41:52.000 How does that work?

02:41:53.000 That's a good question.

02:41:54.000 I think it's probably easier to absolve themselves of responsibility from doing it in Cuba. 0.99

02:41:57.000 That's why we have CIA black sites in Poland and shit. 0.98

02:42:03.000 So I think it's just like, as long as it's out of sight, out of mind. 0.98

02:42:06.000 But what's so crazy to me about the Gitmo thing...

02:42:09.000 Is the Bo Bergdahl saga, how they're like, we released the five worst of the worst. 0.97

02:42:13.000 It's like, shit, if you release the five worst of the worst, then what about the other 120 innocent people that we already know are innocent? 0.93

02:42:19.000 Like, why are they still in there if it was so easy to release the five worst of the worst? 0.99

02:42:23.000 Why won't they release those people?

02:42:24.000 Because they're worried that they're going to go and say what happened to them?

02:42:29.000 Or is it because...

02:42:31.000 They would have to admit that they were holding people that weren't really...

02:42:34.000 I mean, once they do let them go, then they start talking, then they'd have to admit that there's probably a lot of other people that are also like that.

02:42:40.000 Before the Bo Bergdahl thing, I think that was...

02:42:42.000 What's the Bo Bergdahl thing?

02:42:42.000 That was the dude who was captured by the Taliban, and then they did a prisoner swap.

02:42:47.000 Oh, the five guys.

02:42:48.000 Yeah, that dude, yeah.

02:42:49.000 So he came back, and then they gave those five dudes.

02:42:52.000 And I think that really blew apart the whole logic of keeping these people in Guantanamo Bay, because before that, Obama, you know, he got in office saying, I'm going to close down Gitmo and everyone blames the Republicans for not letting him.

02:43:02.000 Truth is, he could sign a national security waiver and release every single one today if he wanted to.

02:43:06.000 And the fact that he kept maintaining, well, you know, we can't trust Yemen to take these people back because Yemen can harbor terrorism and, like, they can become terrorists and then they can retaliate.

02:43:16.000 And it's like, well, you trust Yemen to carry out drone strikes there. 0.79

02:43:19.000 You're, like, working with the Yemeni government in all these other fashions.

02:43:22.000 And that's where they released these dudes.

02:43:25.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:43:26.000 And I just think that we need to fucking get these people out of Gitmo because they're innocent. 0.97

02:43:29.000 And I would rather take the chance of like having someone retaliate than to keep an innocent person in prison for the rest of their life with no charges. 0.96

02:43:35.000 And my whole thing is if they're so bad, like those five worst of the worst guys, if they were so bad, how come we couldn't find anything to charge them with for 10 years?

02:43:44.000 Like, where was the charges?

02:43:46.000 Where the hell?

02:43:47.000 What happened?

02:43:48.000 You know?

02:43:49.000 Well, I've seen some instances where people were released and they talked about what happened and how they got arrested in the first place.

02:43:55.000 They just went to, like, organizations, they went to meetings, they listened to someone speak, and then they got locked into this idea of them being a part of this organization.

02:44:07.000 Exactly.

02:44:08.000 It's just like a gang.

02:44:09.000 I think that we have these romanticized versions of what the Taliban and Al-Qaeda is.

02:44:14.000 It's just essentially like a gang. 0.97

02:44:16.000 And that if you are a teenager and you're living in this area, sometimes you are affiliated with a gang because it's how you fucking survive. 0.98

02:44:25.000 Or it's how you want to provide money for your family or you do running errands because you don't want to fucking get killed or beat up. 0.92

02:44:31.000 So all these loosely affiliated people with like these organizations, quote unquote terrorist organizations, that was like they were just swept up. 0.98

02:44:39.000 And those are the people who are just killed now with drones and stuff.

02:44:41.000 And it's just really, it's this really bizarre like interpretation of what these entities really are and how they operate.

02:44:47.000 It's just like coming from Oakland, like the, you know, gangs out in East Oakland. 0.96

02:44:52.000 It's like if you're affiliated with them, do you deserve to die? 0.99

02:44:55.000 Right. 0.87

02:44:55.000 And do you think that they can track those guys that they released, the five people that they released? 0.87

02:45:00.000 Do you think they had some sort of a method?

02:45:02.000 Like, my dog is a thing that they put under his skin, you know? 0.96

02:45:07.000 And if he gets, you know, like they take this thing and if he gets picked up by the pound, they run a scan on him and they go, oh, that's Joe's dog.

02:45:16.000 The mark of the beast.

02:45:17.000 They can call me.

02:45:18.000 You know, there's like a microchip in them. 0.99

02:45:20.000 I would imagine that you could have some sort of a GPS tracking device that you could stick in someone's fucking scalp and they wouldn't even know it's there or wherever, you know, some part of your body. 0.98

02:45:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:45:32.000 Who the hell knows, man?

02:45:33.000 I just think these people need to be let out of prison. 0.67

02:45:35.000 It's terrible.

02:45:36.000 If they do let them out, they're going to be mad.

02:45:39.000 They could cause havoc on U.S. soil.

02:45:42.000 And then what?

02:45:43.000 So far, you know what, man?

02:45:44.000 So far, there hasn't been legitimate threat of terrorism.

02:45:47.000 If you want to include 9-11 and the Boston bombing, other than that, zero.

02:45:52.000 Like, this report just came out.

02:45:53.000 We were just talking about this.

02:45:54.000 This report just came out that says...

02:45:58.000 Yeah.

02:46:15.000 Just so they can facilitate, create, and then thwart terrorist plots to completely continue to legitimize the domestic police state and the war abroad. 0.99

02:46:25.000 So these people will go to mosques and they'll pray really immorally on like retarded people or like mentally incompetent people or extremely poor people and they'll say, yo, listen up, 250 fucking G's. 0.99

02:46:38.000 And they'll work with them for like a year. 0.99

02:46:39.000 We're talking about like long con. 0.95

02:46:41.000 It's like a long ass con sometimes. 0.88

02:46:43.000 So the thing about you're getting paid an insane amount of money to do this on our behalf to basically manipulate people who are weak-minded into committing acts of terrorism that would never have the capabilities before and would never have even thought of it before. 0.95

02:46:57.000 But they go into these mosques and they go into all these... 0.94

02:47:16.000 It's just really sad.

02:47:17.000 And to me, it's so sick.

02:47:19.000 Because once they thwart the plot, and then they can parade around the media and be like, yo, we foiled another terrorist plot.

02:47:27.000 Like, look, we're still doing a good job, guys, but they don't tell you that they created the terrorists.

02:47:31.000 And then, of course, they put in prison for the rest of their life, so it's another wasted life. 0.98

02:47:36.000 Wasted capacity, just put in fucking prison, and just keeping up this facade, this charade that there's terrorists everywhere and that they want to blow us up. 1.00

02:47:45.000 And it's all fucking bullshit, man. 1.00

02:47:46.000 We're more likely to get stung by a bee. 1.00

02:47:48.000 We're more likely to get crushed by falling furniture than we are dying of a terrorist attack in this country.

02:47:52.000 Well, definitely stung by a bee. 1.00

02:47:54.000 Shit. 1.00

02:47:55.000 I mean dead from a bee sting. 1.00

02:47:59.000 You're eight times more likely to get killed by a cop than you are dead from a terrorist here.

02:48:04.000 So it's just like, it's totally insane.

02:48:06.000 And this report just blew the lid off it.

02:48:09.000 It was just unbelievable knowing how much resources are going in.

02:48:12.000 And then you see this whole terror watch list thing where 1.5 million people have been added to a terror watch list in the last five years.

02:48:18.000 Just the last five years alone.

02:48:19.000 1.5 million people.

02:48:21.000 Do you think you're on there?

02:48:22.000 No, because I don't think I would have been able to fly out here.

02:48:24.000 Oh, right.

02:48:26.000 So I think that, but think about, I mean, you're telling me that 1.5 million people, and it's really making their lives a living hell, because you need, flying is like, you know what I mean?

02:48:35.000 And a lot of these people's families are over and abroad and stuff, and what came out On top of that no-fly list thing was that the FBI is actually using the no-fly list as a tool to try to get more informants.

02:48:46.000 So they will go to like Muslim dudes and be like, yo, you're on this no-fly list. 0.99

02:48:51.000 You want to get off it?

02:48:53.000 Become an informant.

02:48:54.000 Turn against your community.

02:48:56.000 And because the people are saying no, they're stuck on this list forever.

02:49:00.000 So now they're like using it as blackmail. 0.99

02:49:03.000 So there's like this huge class action lawsuit trying to like take these people off the list and it's a fucking mess, man. 0.99

02:49:09.000 It's a mess. 0.98

02:49:10.000 It's a giant industry. 1.00

02:49:11.000 That story about the guy in Dallas who is mentally incompetent.

02:49:15.000 They talked into trying to detonate a bomb that didn't exist. 0.92

02:49:19.000 It wasn't a bomb.

02:49:21.000 It was never gonna blow up.

02:49:22.000 There was no bomb.

02:49:23.000 They gave him a fake bomb.

02:49:25.000 They... 1.00

02:49:26.000 Talked him into doing it, financed the whole thing, funded it, coerced this poor fuck into thinking he was going to blow up the bomb. 1.00

02:49:33.000 And then when he tries to do it, then they swoop in. 1.00

02:49:35.000 We gotcha!

02:49:36.000 Red-handed!

02:49:39.000 America! 1.00

02:49:39.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00

02:49:40.000 America! 1.00

02:49:41.000 There was even this one dude who worked at the mosque that actually turned in the informant to the FBI because they were like, there's some dude here trying to talk a whole bunch of shit. 0.99

02:49:48.000 And they're like, oh, that kind of backfired on us. 0.97

02:49:50.000 That's us.

02:49:51.000 Oh, don't worry about it.

02:49:52.000 He's American.

02:49:52.000 What?

02:49:53.000 He's one of us.

02:49:54.000 He's a good American.

02:49:55.000 Just let him do his thing.

02:49:56.000 Let him do his job.

02:49:57.000 He's there to protect America, okay?

02:50:00.000 Leave him alone.

02:50:01.000 It's insane.

02:50:02.000 It's very bizarre.

02:50:03.000 It's very bizarre that they think that that's somehow another law enforcement or protecting and serving.

02:50:11.000 It's a loophole.

02:50:13.000 The DEA uses that loophole, too.

02:50:15.000 There was a Rolling Stone story about a guy who was a dirty DEA agent who would do those sort of things, who would get someone who was very vulnerable and slowly but surely talk them into getting him drugs and then connecting them with a much larger drug dealer.

02:50:33.000 It wasn't really a drug dealer.

02:50:34.000 And organizing and...

02:50:37.000 Manipulating him into some situation where he's going to show him how to make a fuckload of money, but there's no real drugs.

02:50:43.000 Right. 0.99

02:50:43.000 And so this guy conspires with them, and then they fucking, you're under arrest by me! 0.99

02:50:49.000 Like, use your idea! 1.00

02:50:50.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

02:50:52.000 How can you arrest me? 1.00

02:50:53.000 I'm just going to make some cash, yeah.

02:50:55.000 I mean, you're manipulating people.

02:50:57.000 It's total, complete entrapment.

02:50:59.000 Entrapment is so wrong.

02:51:00.000 It's so wrong.

02:51:01.000 And what's different than actual suicide bomber recruiters in the Middle East that we condemn?

02:51:06.000 They're doing the same exact thing, man.

02:51:08.000 Well, we're doing it for freedom.

02:51:09.000 We're doing it for freedom.

02:51:10.000 There's a difference.

02:51:10.000 We're under the Constitution.

02:51:12.000 We have laws in this country that we don't really pay attention to anymore.

02:51:15.000 I mean, how much of the Constitution is valid after the NDAA and Patriot Act 1 and 2?

02:51:23.000 What's left?

02:51:24.000 Right.

02:51:24.000 We kind of can do anything, right?

02:51:26.000 They can kind of just scoop you up and lock you up and you don't have to have a lawyer.

02:51:30.000 They can do whatever they want.

02:51:31.000 Now they're charging animal rights activists with terrorism.

02:51:34.000 Yeah.

02:51:35.000 There were these two kids charged under the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act and you're like, I don't know if releasing geese from a farm can be considered as terrorism. 1.00

02:51:44.000 Well, fogwa is delicious, so fuck those kids. 1.00

02:51:47.000 And geese are cunts. 1.00

02:51:48.000 I had a geese try to bite my baby once. 0.99

02:51:51.000 I actually hate geese. 1.00

02:51:51.000 They're assholes. 1.00

02:51:51.000 Geese are disgusting. 1.00

02:51:52.000 They're dinosaurs.

02:51:52.000 All birds are dinosaurs that made it.

02:51:54.000 That's what they are.

02:51:55.000 Now they're actually thinking that a good percentage of dinosaurs had feathers.

02:51:59.000 They're starting to find that now.

02:52:01.000 It's really fascinating. 0.99

02:52:02.000 A lot of raptors, if they think a lot of those fucking things had feathers. 0.99

02:52:06.000 You know what? 1.00

02:52:06.000 I almost don't like that because now it's going to make them look silly. 1.00

02:52:09.000 If we try to reshape how they really look, we're like, oh, they don't look scary anymore. 0.83

02:52:13.000 They're just like giant dodo birds.

02:52:15.000 That's kind of funny.

02:52:16.000 Well, it kind of makes sense.

02:52:17.000 All the birds that we see today are essentially dinosaurs that survived.

02:52:22.000 That's really what they are.

02:52:23.000 We don't really have any raptors.

02:52:25.000 Flying lizards, yeah.

02:52:25.000 Yeah.

02:52:26.000 And especially those types of, you know, the birds with the claws, the talons, those weird feet.

02:52:33.000 Yeah, chickens.

02:52:33.000 I have chickens.

02:52:34.000 I have 24 of them.

02:52:35.000 No way!

02:52:36.000 Yeah.

02:52:37.000 You have a whole farm?

02:52:37.000 I have a ton of chickens, yeah.

02:52:38.000 Oh, cool.

02:52:39.000 Yeah, I get fresh eggs from them every day.

02:52:40.000 That's awesome!

02:52:41.000 But they're like pets, you know?

02:52:43.000 Yeah.

02:52:44.000 They're just these weird things that lay eggs that you eat.

02:52:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:52:47.000 You don't go grab them, pick them up, and they'll let you. 0.75

02:52:49.000 You don't chop their heads off and, like, rip their body apart and eat the meat? 1.00

02:52:52.000 No, but I would if shit got crazy. 1.00

02:52:54.000 There's 24 of them that could live off those for a couple weeks. 0.99

02:53:00.000 Storable food and 24 chickens. 1.00

02:53:02.000 If shit got ugly, I'd eat my dog. 1.00

02:53:04.000 I'm going to be honest with you. 1.00

02:53:06.000 Kids are starving.

02:53:07.000 Hey, what are you going to do?

02:53:07.000 What are you going to do?

02:53:08.000 I'd try to look for food, but...

02:53:10.000 You want to see something gross?

02:53:11.000 Pull up aerial view factory farms.

02:53:14.000 I just want to show you this image that looks like a festering zombie wound.

02:53:17.000 And it was like this photographer that captured this image of...

02:53:20.000 And it's only in the US, which is really like the craziest of the factory farming.

02:53:24.000 If you go on Google image searches, you can find it.

02:53:26.000 It looks like a giant green festering wound.

02:53:28.000 And it's really just like...

02:53:32.000 Cows...

02:53:32.000 I don't know, like, millions of cows in middle America and all of their waste, like, accumulating in this lagoon.

02:53:38.000 It's fucking nuts. 0.99

02:53:39.000 Look, there's one of them. 1.00

02:53:41.000 Whoa.

02:53:41.000 Yeah, if you enlarge that...

02:53:43.000 See all those dots?

02:53:45.000 Yeah.

02:53:46.000 Those are all cows to the left.

02:53:48.000 What?

02:53:48.000 And those lots, and that's all, like...

02:53:51.000 The waste. 1.00

02:53:52.000 So what is, that's all cow shit? 1.00

02:53:53.000 I don't know what it is, man. 1.00

02:53:55.000 That's a satellite image?

02:53:56.000 I don't know what it is, but- A waste lagoon at Coronado Feeders in Texas.

02:54:00.000 Find the green one, too.

02:54:01.000 Whoa.

02:54:02.000 And unfortunately, there's a lot of activists who, you know, a lot of, like, animal rights activists, like my friend Will Potter.

02:54:08.000 Look at that.

02:54:09.000 Isn't that nuts?

02:54:10.000 Ugh.

02:54:10.000 What is that?

02:54:12.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:54:13.000 What does it say in the caption?

02:54:14.000 That looks big.

02:54:15.000 That's huge.

02:54:17.000 Waste Lagoon in Texas.

02:54:20.000 Or a nuclear waste site.

02:54:22.000 Or a nuclear waste site?

02:54:23.000 No, it's not a nuclear waste site.

02:54:24.000 No, no, no.

02:54:25.000 It's just making it... 0.98

02:54:26.000 It's just being silly. 0.97

02:54:26.000 Yeah, it's comparing it to how gross it looks. 0.97

02:54:28.000 But there's all these laws now called ag-gag laws where you can't even...

02:54:34.000 Can't take photos of them.

02:54:35.000 If you see tortured animals, you get charged with terrorism.

02:54:39.000 Isn't that hilarious?

02:54:40.000 How crazy is that?

02:54:40.000 Yeah.

02:54:41.000 If you find that, I mean, look, what they do is horrifying.

02:54:44.000 Right.

02:54:44.000 They chop their chickens' beaks off when they're little to keep them from pecking each other because they're in such close quarters.

02:54:50.000 They attack each other and it's a disaster.

02:54:52.000 Factory farming is horrific.

02:54:54.000 It's terrible.

02:54:54.000 What's one of the reasons?

02:54:55.000 I've tried to separate myself from that as much as humanly possible.

02:54:59.000 I, like I said, raise my own chickens.

02:55:01.000 Yeah, that's awesome.

02:55:01.000 I hunt now.

02:55:02.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

02:55:03.000 I've killed four animals this year. 1.00

02:55:05.000 Whoa. 0.68

02:55:05.000 Two deer, a pig. 0.68

02:55:06.000 Do you like dismantle the whole thing too?

02:55:08.000 That's cool.

02:55:08.000 Yeah, I have a freezer full of meat and I eat that.

02:55:11.000 And my goal is by the end of 2014 to only eat meat that I've hunted. 0.99

02:55:14.000 Holy shit. 0.99

02:55:16.000 Where are you hunting? 1.00

02:55:17.000 I go on trips.

02:55:18.000 Wow.

02:55:18.000 Yeah.

02:55:19.000 That killed that deer.

02:55:21.000 No way.

02:55:21.000 The one right there, the head.

02:55:23.000 Oh, crazy.

02:55:24.000 Wow.

02:55:25.000 That's pretty badass.

02:55:26.000 I mean, if everyone knew how food was made and where it came from, I think that we'd eat a lot differently.

02:55:30.000 And I think people would view food a lot differently.

02:55:32.000 It's just like we're so removed from the process of food, which is really crazy.

02:55:36.000 Yeah.

02:55:37.000 Well, when you see it in the wild and you shoot it yourself, I mean, that's an animal.

02:55:41.000 That deer, that was an animal that I got in Montana.

02:55:45.000 That probably had never seen a person before.

02:55:47.000 Right.

02:55:48.000 Because it was in the Badlands.

02:55:49.000 That was off the Missouri River, the same place where Lewis and Clark traveled.

02:55:54.000 Wow.

02:55:54.000 Yeah, I mean, it is a very, very remote place.

02:55:57.000 There's no cell phone reception.

02:56:00.000 It's a beautiful skull.

02:56:00.000 No nothing.

02:56:00.000 Yeah, it's pretty dope.

02:56:01.000 It's a cool animal, too.

02:56:02.000 And it tasted delicious.

02:56:04.000 No hormones, no antibiotics, no nitrates, and we're out of time.

02:56:09.000 No! 1.00

02:56:09.000 Abby Martin, you're the shit. 1.00

02:56:10.000 We did three hours. 1.00

02:56:11.000 Wow.

02:56:12.000 It's over. 0.98

02:56:12.000 Damn, there's so much we're talking about. 0.98

02:56:14.000 We turn into a pumpkin. 0.99

02:56:15.000 So much more to talk about.

02:56:16.000 Tell me anytime.

02:56:16.000 Anytime.

02:56:17.000 Awesome, dude. 0.99

02:56:17.000 Like I said, I'll open this fucker up at 4 o'clock in the morning for you. 0.99

02:56:20.000 Fuck yeah, dude. 1.00

02:56:21.000 Thank you so much. 0.99

02:56:22.000 Thank you, man.

02:56:22.000 Follow Abby on Twitter.

02:56:24.000 Check out abbymartin.org too.

02:56:27.000 abbymartin.org.

02:56:28.000 Watch her on RT until she escapes and forms the Abby Martin experience.

02:56:33.000 And thanks to our sponsor.

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02:56:42.000 Alright, we'll be back next week with a lot of more podcasts. 1.00

02:56:46.000 So until then, go fuck yourselves. 1.00

02:56:47.000 Big kiss. 1.00

The Joe Rogan Experience - August 02, 2014

Joe Rogan Experience #529 - Abby Martin

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