On this episode of the podcast, I sit down with my good friend and former UFC fighter Matt Mitrione to talk about his career and how he got to where he is today. We talk about what it's like to be a UFC fighter and how to deal with the pressure of being the highest ranked fighter in the UFC at the time of his career. We also talk about some of his favorite memories in the octagon and what it takes to be the best at what you do. I hope you enjoy this episode, and don't forget to subscribe on your favorite streaming platform so you don't miss the next episode where we'll be discussing the latest UFC news and breaking news! Subscribe to the podcast and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and other Podcasts! Thanks for listening and Good Luck Out There! -Jon Sorrentino & Ben Friesen. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and Subscribe to our channel! We appreciate your support and share the podcast with your friends and family! Subscribe on iTunes, comment and tell a friend about what you think about the podcast! Timestamps: 0:00 - What do you think of this episode? 5:30 - What's your favorite part of the UFC podcast? 6:15 - What s your favorite moment from the UFC? 7:40 - What would you like to see next? 8:20 - What are you looking forward to watching the next UFC fight? 9:00 11:10 - What is your favorite UFC fighter? 12:00 What's the best part? 13: What do YOU think of the most important thing? 15: How do you want to watch? 16:30 17:30 What are your favorite thing about the most recent UFC movie? 18:40 19:20 21:10 22:00 Is your favorite fight of the week? 27:00 Can I have a dream movie of the day? 26:00 Do you think you're a robot? 23:30 Do you have a beef with someone else's favorite meal? 25:00 Should I'm going to be my favorite meal or what's your best meal or a beef? 28:30 Should I get a steak or a meal or something else? 29:00 Are you going to get more up to be more up for it?
00:03:28.000Well, for those who don't follow mixed martial arts, Sakuraba is a famous Japanese guy who was one of the first guys to beat the Gracies, and he fought a bunch of them.1.00
00:04:54.000Yeah, because I remember the exact moment that I was like, I got him in this one move, and then I put my hand on his face, and I put my hand on his face and punched him.
00:05:03.000And I'm like, man, I'm punching Sakuraba right now.
00:05:48.000You know, you got to be like- You get looked out.
00:05:50.000Yeah, it's more, for me at least, I know some guys have to get more psyched up, you know, but for me, I just know that I have to like chill myself out so I don't go to bananas.
00:07:36.000And it was Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, you know?
00:07:38.000So, when I remember, I would be in there broke as hell, you know, training, and then there would be, like, lawyers and, you know, doctors and chiropractors and whatever, you know?
00:07:47.000Like, and I'm just, like, some poor kid.
00:07:49.000Like, I would go to the gyms, you know?
00:11:18.000If you don't know, this has been addressed on a previous podcast with Jason Mayhem Miller, but there was a big incident at CBS where Jason got into the cage and asked Jade Shields a question.
00:11:28.000He got jumped by everybody, and it was nuts.
00:11:31.000Nick Diaz was one of the guys that was involved.
00:12:22.000It should have been like how they would deal to the UFC. If you were going to come in and you were going to challenge him after a fight, you would wait.
00:12:28.000And then when Jake was done talking, then we'd say, all right, now I have a guy who would really love to sit down and talk to you right now.
00:12:35.000Jason, Mayhem, Miller, and you would come in.
00:12:39.000They fucked up by just leaving the door open.0.97
00:12:42.000What are you going to leave the door open and do this to get hyped up?1.00
00:12:45.000When you want to do something simultaneous on TV, when you're doing something on TV, so I'm sure you're thinking like, fuck, what am I doing?0.91
00:14:10.000It's not like you're just calling some random person out.
00:14:13.000You're calling a guy out who's an MMA fighter who you have an altercation with.
00:14:18.000He's fought so many times, 183. He always fights there.
00:14:23.000But then when it's me, somebody he's talked shit about, like, for years the guy's talked shit about me, and without saying my name, all these guys, these F-bombs with painted hair, these Joe Rogan words with painted hair, you know, like, he's, you know...0.98
00:14:40.000He said all these terrible things about you.0.99
00:17:17.000He reached in and adjusted the microphone like he was changing the collar on a tiger.
00:17:22.000I pre-planned it for like 10 or 15 seconds.
00:17:26.000I was looking at it like, alright, I'm just going to go in there real quick and be like, I even thought about, hey Jason, look at that over there, and doing one of those things.
00:17:32.000So if you, let me get back to the subject, because this is a fascinating subject for me.
00:17:36.000If you lose weight, so say if, what do you walk around, like 210, something like that?
00:17:41.000Yeah, well, actually, less than that, 207, 208. When you get to the point where you're about to cut weight, like when you're in training camp, when do you start to dehydrate yourself?
00:17:51.000Do you take like just a couple of days?
00:28:00.000You get a guy, you get your hands locked under his chin and then you place your body, your belly, over the top of the back of his head and as you lift him up, his neck is basically trapped against your chest cavity.0.99
00:28:11.000So he kind of Yeah, you hoist him up in the air by his fucking neck.0.98
00:30:48.000It's kind of crazy, though, that you could ever get in a situation where a kid who's just some punk bully kid could ever get into a situation where he's on television and he's fighting you.
00:31:20.000He was turning purple, the whole deal.0.93
00:31:22.000So, okay, you could have potentially been a world champion, and you're allowed to just get in there and beat the fuck out of some kid who's never really sparred, never really fought before, never competed.
00:31:53.000That shit would devastate you, dude.1.00
00:31:55.000You're a young man, you think you're the shit, and you're an asshole, and you're an asshole on television, and these guys, he's really an asshole to those guys?1.00
00:32:19.000Wait, are you trying to say that one of my contestants is going to go jump off a bridge because we got beat up on MTV's Bully Beatdown?0.98
00:32:25.000I think a lot of douchebags are in utter pain, and that's why they're douchebags.0.96
00:32:30.000Any big, huge, devastating thing like this could go one or two ways.0.99
00:32:35.000They could either learn from it and grow from it and realize they were being a shithead, or they just become devastated.0.99
00:33:40.000I'm just trying to think, what, in a thousand years or not?
00:33:42.000Just trying to mind your own business, just chilling, hanging out with your wife and kids, and you see, over the horizon, a group of men with swords and shields.1.00
00:34:16.000In the medieval days when people were hacking each other with swords, it's amazing people didn't say, I'm just going to jump off a fucking cliff.1.00
00:39:03.000Yeah, he was sitting there with his fucking...0.99
00:39:04.000He's got his, like, diamonds on and shit, and his, you know, his silver Distinguished hair, and he's sitting there on his MacBook playing Call of Duty Jack of Duty.1.00
00:39:11.000How could he do it with his mouse pad, though?0.98
00:40:25.000The exchange of information between people is going to be, at one point, it's going to be instantaneous and it's going to be all-encompassing.
00:40:31.000We're going to have everything I know about you and everything you know about me, we're going to know everything about each other.
00:42:21.000Well, I would, except I watched a detailed report on TV where a lady who was downhill mountain biking got attacked by a fucking mountain lion who ate her head.1.00
00:42:30.000Don't you want to die like a cool wave?
00:42:32.000Her friend was beating the mountain lion with a stick as it was dragging her screaming, bleeding friend with her face torn off into the bushes, and he's beating it with a stick.
00:44:38.000Isn't it weird, though, that we have this weird thing with wolves where, you know, it used to be everyone was aware that wolves were really dangerous.1.00
00:47:29.000I mean, that's just how life is, but Oysun is really good, man.
00:47:32.000They have so many great characters and stuff, and it's well-written.
00:47:35.000Did you watch the Manny Pacquiao fight man?
00:47:38.000Yeah, man with my dad and a hunting trip It was awesome like sit out there in the country watching many back Yeah, my dad like screaming and yelling like for the wrong guy like what man that's not even pack Yeah, that's slingbox.0.98
00:47:50.000I watched it on my laptop in London.0.99
00:47:53.000Oh, yeah Glory damn that motherfuckers good.1.00
00:47:57.000Yeah, he's I wonder, though, with his style, though, you know, I wonder if he could fuck with Floyd Mayweather.1.00
00:49:33.000But what's most important is technique.0.99
00:49:36.000All that other shit, you can have too.0.99
00:49:38.000All that other shit has to be processed through technique, though.0.99
00:49:41.000And guys that just rely on one thing, that just rely on their aggressiveness or rely on their athleticism.0.91
00:49:46.000How many times have you watched guys fight in MMA on TV and you see...
00:49:51.000Like a guy that's like super hyper-aggressive, but yet he's got all these holes in his stand-up, and he's dropping his hands goofy, and he's not turning his kicks over, but he's just super aggressive, and that's how he's winning.
00:50:18.000Man, the life of a martial artist, a professional mixed martial artist, that has got to be a trippy way to fucking pay your bills, son.0.98
00:50:27.000There's been moments where I've stood across the ring from someone, and I'm like, I'm about to fight another grown man on national television.
00:57:29.000Like, man, and I start caring because the other people care.0.98
00:57:33.000I'm like, man, damn it, why do I care?0.96
00:57:35.000I don't want to pretend that I know what's going to happen in the future because I obviously don't.0.97
00:57:39.000I don't know whether or not we're going to pull ourselves out of this downward spiral, this humanity downward spiral with some sort of a technological innovation or something.
00:57:47.000But if it doesn't happen, I'm so hyped.
00:58:18.000I don't know whether or not we are ever going to pull ourselves out of this downward spiral, but if you look at a civilization, if you look at a civilization right before it was going to fall, like Rome or the Greek Empire, all you hear about is them going crazy.0.99
00:58:36.000All you hear about is feathers, and they're eating, and they're throwing up, and they're fucking everything, and they're fucking little boys and shit, and there's lions versus Christians.0.99
00:58:45.000It's always the craziest, craziest shit goes down, and that's what everybody talks about after it falls apart.1.00
00:58:50.000Well, isn't that what's happening right here?0.99
00:58:55.000I mean, we were talking, Brian and I were looking at the pictures of the Colosseum in Rome.
00:58:59.000We were having lunch at this Italian place today, and they had this photo of the Colosseum in Rome, and the photo was from 2010, right?0.98
00:59:06.000So the Colosseum is this fucking incredible old piece of architecture where people fought fucking lions.0.99
00:59:12.000It's right there in the center of that bitch.1.00
00:59:14.000And there's cars just driving around it.1.00
00:59:16.000And the cars, the distance between the curb and the fucking walls of this insane old building is what?0.99
00:59:45.000They'll be like, these crazy assholes had TV shows where regular people became famous.1.00
00:59:50.000Girls became famous because they were showing their pussies, they'd get out of the cars.1.00
00:59:53.000How many girls became famous or got massive publicity for showing their pussy on TV? Or showing their pussy, rather, in publicity for these magazines?1.00
01:05:13.000This is why it's weird that they're making it illegal.
01:05:15.000The problem is, it's sort of a guilt by association thing, because if you consider it, and even though you look at the statistics, and there's no deaths, and there's no immediate danger...
01:05:25.000You know, health-wise, like, why should it be illegal?0.95
01:05:27.000Well, because it's like all this other shit that's illegal.0.59
01:05:29.000Salvia is one of the most potent psychedelic drugs in the world, and it's available at head shops, whereas, you know, it's really hard.0.96
01:06:09.000You get this lighter that you have to have one of the crack lighters with the blue torches and it gets it up to a certain temperature and it releases a, pretty much it's like a whippet of mushrooms.
01:06:19.000You know, you're just doing, oh god, I'm shrooming, oh my god, my face is on fire, I'm melting, I'm dead, oh hey, I'm back.
01:06:26.000But the problem is, is kids were doing this, you know, and...
01:09:10.000Because if you get used to that, you get used to what my friend Tony always says, that erotic and psychotic are like, they're like next door neighbors.
01:10:06.000Have you ever heard of girls that do that, that masturbate by putting their pussy right underneath the faucet and they just slowly turn it on?1.00
01:10:12.000That's got to be a benefit of being a chick.1.00
01:10:14.000It must be way easier to masturbate.1.00
01:14:08.000that laugh the guy was laughing i like i remember as i'm all blurry like with all the drugs like and i'm like man i look and i remember him like smirking at me and then going back oh man i shouldn't talk shit to him like that wow because because i came out of it like thinking i was in a fight like like and like kicking at the nurses and everything like that and i was like oh And I was like, oh, my bad.
01:17:30.000This one was done with a patella tendon graft, though, which kind of sucks, where they...
01:17:34.000They take a chunk out of your bone and a strip of meat where your tendon is and it's attached to your shin and then they open you up and then they screw it in place.
01:17:42.000It takes a long ass time to heal from it.
01:17:44.000It's much longer recuperation time because you've got a hole in your shin or a hole in your kneecap and a hole in your shin.0.99
01:17:50.000They cut it out so you're Your tendon's been all fucked up.0.99
01:17:53.000So it's a way more invasive thing.0.96
01:17:55.000This one, I had done, they did a cadaver, my right one.
01:17:59.000And there's just like two little tiny holes, and they stitched them up, and that's it.
01:20:38.000When you watch this fight with Anderson Silva, so Anderson Silva, pound for pound, best fighter in the world, you know, UFC long-running middleweight champion, what did you think when you saw that fight?
01:22:06.000Does it get in the way when you're filming Bully Beatdown?
01:22:08.000You know, does it get in the way with your training?
01:22:10.000Like, do you have to, like, train, like, when you're filming that show, do you have to, like, make sure that you don't have any fights scheduled for a while it's going down?
01:24:54.000No, no, no, no, what I'm saying is, like, when a controversy happens like this, like, they don't want you involved in anything that's, like, negative or anything that's, like, you know, like, they don't have, they don't sit down with you and say, hey, you can't be getting into brawls because, you know, you represent the show.
01:26:49.000The Soup is the best show because I get to see the normal everyday funny stuff that I would never see because I never watch a show like that.
01:26:56.000Man, The Soup had it on there and it was...
01:27:33.000Dancing with the stars, that's what they're calling a star.
01:27:35.000They're calling this young girl whose mom was running for vice president, who just happened to get pregnant and everybody knew about it, they're calling her a star.
01:31:48.000Dude, that shit was designed by the terrorists.1.00
01:31:52.000That's designed to lower our standards and weaken our wills, and they're gonna fucking cross our borders and just start raping and pillaging.1.00
01:33:24.000I sometimes masturbate about the chick that checks me in at the tanning bed because she's so fucking hot and she has huge tits and she's...1.00
01:33:57.000It sounds like it's a little 7-Up can by your ear.0.76
01:33:59.000That's the low point of this podcast, folks.
01:34:02.000Jizz omelets Cooking jizz omelets Toastity go too far period blood How many times you walked out of the house with dry loads on your stomach?
01:34:23.000Jim Norton had a load in his belly button from the night before, and we were on Opie and Anthony, and he was telling everybody, he's like, oh, I'm smelling it.
01:36:06.000Because I don't know if I can fucking take it.0.98
01:36:07.000Bro, I felt like you wasted moments of my life.0.99
01:36:09.000But at the same time, I think it's a step in the right direction that abstinence people have gone, well, people aren't going to stop fucking, so try to wear a condom.0.99
01:36:29.000You can't stop people from touching each other.
01:36:31.000If that's true, why would they even think for a second that the situation would best represent that PSA? I think because they think of him...
01:37:46.000It's all professional equipment and shit.0.99
01:37:48.000A friend of mine just started watching the podcast, and he started with episode one, and he's like, holy shit, dude, this is the craziest thing ever.0.99
01:37:55.000You guys were just sitting in front of a laptop, and you had snowflakes coming down.0.95
01:40:57.000Man, that looks like a real-life butthole, I have to say, man.0.99
01:41:00.000I've seen a butthole or two in my time.0.99
01:41:01.000They make an actual mold of a real-life butthole.1.00
01:41:04.000Well, you know, if you weren't into doing gay porn, but they offered you a million bucks for a foam mold of your butthole, they said, listen, we're going to give you a stone-cold, solid $1 million.0.99
01:41:19.000All we need, we're just going to throw some plaster of Paris over your butthole and make a little impression.1.00
01:45:54.000All the women that ride horses around me, all the women in my neighborhood who ride horses, look like they're getting away with something.1.00
01:51:31.000It's like some people become addicted to drama.
01:51:33.000And the big thrill you get from sort of overcoming drama.1.00
01:51:37.000You know, how many dudes do you know that just like, you have to fucking get in a yelling match with this asshole before you can be friends with him?0.99
01:51:42.000I mean, how many guys have you ever met?1.00
01:51:44.000I mean, in our circles and circles of guys who train and MMA guys and high testosterone individuals, there's always this one guy where you have to go, bro, what the fuck?0.98
01:53:23.000That was a great scene, but what I was saying is not correct is when he was saying that the origin of the word faggot meant that you would throw them on the fire just like faggots of wood.0.99
01:59:31.000That's one of the coolest things about doing this podcast, is basically hanging out with your friends, except other people all throughout the world.0.99
01:59:38.000And I'll tell you, man, I've gotten all these fucking emails, and I've met all these people that tell me how they don't have anybody like these people.
01:59:47.000They don't know anyone like you, or like a lot of the guests that I have.1.00
01:59:50.000They don't know these fucking people.1.00
01:59:51.000They don't have anyone like this in their life.1.00
01:59:53.000They don't have friends that talk to us.
01:59:54.000They don't have people that talk to us.
01:59:55.000But by listening to this thing three, four hours every week or so, You get all these weird different people become a part of your daily conversations.0.99
02:00:06.000This is like super hyper-accelerating shit for some people.0.98
02:00:10.000From people that live in shitty places where they have poor conversations with people and they long for someone who can bring challenging ideas to their head.1.00
02:03:44.000And it's once they can start shutting down websites.
02:03:47.000But if they're doing, see, it's the tricky thing.
02:03:50.000Like a lot of people, you know, you've got to recognize that the courts have decided that torrents and downloading copyrighted material is is stealing.
02:04:02.000So if they've made decisions like that, and then you're gonna run a website or some sort of a torrent site where you're gonna get people access to a bunch of illegal shit, you gotta assume that eventually someone's gonna shut you down, right?
02:05:14.000I think that's the whole point of, you know, you can't bust somebody for having, you know, you can't bust somebody for stealing whatever, a Milli Vanilli CD if you don't have the Milli Vanilli CD on something you're serving.
02:05:27.000You're just pointing it to all these different directions, you know?
02:06:02.000So either they bought it or they stole it.
02:06:04.000I'm saying what's scary about the Pirate Bay and what's scary about a lot of these places is if they don't actually have files on their computer and they're getting arrested for things, then what makes it stop you getting arrested because somebody put a torrent file on your form, even though it's not hosted?
02:06:18.000Right, but their whole entire purpose for existing on the internet is to connect people with other people that have things available for download that are illegal.
02:06:28.000Yeah, so Google has maps and it tells you where to go to murder people if you want to.
02:07:42.000The whole issue is a very tricky issue.
02:07:45.000Because on one side, you have to say, well, you're stifling innovation by stopping all these people from doing all this stuff and by putting on the brakes on all these sites.
02:07:53.000But on the other side, you go, well, wait a minute.0.96
02:07:55.000How the fuck are these people supposed to make money?0.98
02:07:57.000You can't just have something for free that I want to sell for $20 on Amazon.com.0.97
02:08:03.000What I'm saying is, it's the same as, oh my god, CDs are going to make everybody, you know, writable CDs are going to ruin it for the music industry.
02:08:12.000No, they've got to find an equal pressure.
02:08:13.000Well, writable CDs did a little bit of a dent, but the big dent was done by the internet.
02:10:39.000I don't know where it was, but there's this rat running after these cats and one time bites this one cat and it's stuck to him and the cat's running trying to shake the rat off.1.00
02:11:16.000And it was a big fucking rat because I used to leave the garbage back there and I would hear like these in my garage like clang, clang, clang.0.99
02:11:23.000I would hear these loud ass noises and I opened up my garage.1.00
02:11:26.000I opened up the door and I hit the light switch and this fucking rat moved across my garbage and it was like attack size.1.00
02:13:38.000You're just trying to play with my emotions.1.00
02:13:43.000Dude, that fucking laugh, this whole attitude you have towards life, this I'm not scared to be around mountain lions and sharks and shit like that.1.00
02:14:05.000I just feel like I'll deal with that when it comes up.0.98
02:14:09.000I'm like, oh, right now I'm going to live my life, and then I see a fucking mountain lion while I'm mountain biking, which makes sense because they both have mountain in them.0.99
02:14:18.000I would fucking deal with it then.0.98
02:14:20.000It's a very weird thing when you lock eyes with a big predator like a mountain lion in the wild.0.99
02:14:26.000I only locked eyes with the one that I saw.
02:14:29.000I only locked eyes with it for a couple seconds.
02:15:58.000There's this guy and this girl crow that just sit out and make these clicking noises, like the whole time.
02:16:03.000And then my dog will come out there and just be looking up at it, and then once in a while the crow just swoops down, doesn't attack it or anything, but it's kind of like he's just like...
02:19:52.000Now, I'm not bullshitting, not just as a fighter.0.98
02:19:54.000And I told him very early on, I'm like, dude, you've got real talent, and I really hope you write a book someday, because I think you could write some crazy Hunter S. Thompson shit.0.98
02:22:08.000And, you know, I write about that in this article, too, man, about going there and people are, like, collecting rainwater and these drums, you know, to drink.
02:22:54.000There's a big article, I think it was on CNN this morning about that, but there's tanks moving back in.
02:23:00.000Yeah, right now it's like a little bit of like...
02:23:02.000Marcel Alonso, this journalist that I was out there with, he kind of told me that it's dying down right now, but there's like a lot of guys, the drug dealers doing crazy terrorist stuff right now in Rio.0.70
02:23:20.000I was in Sao Paulo in 2003 and a friend of mine went back in 2008, I believe it was, and he was arrested.
02:23:29.000There was so much violence between the police and the drug dealers that they were closing down streets and highways.
02:23:35.000And they were driving to a Chuhascarilla with some business clients, and everybody was pulled out of the car at gunpoint.
02:23:42.000They had fucking, you know, they wanted to make sure they weren't, they were in a nice car, and they didn't know who these people were, and they wanted to make sure they weren't drug dealers.0.90
02:23:47.000So they were just pulling people out and sticking guns in their faces.0.99
02:25:48.000A buddy of mine was there, and he was with a friend of his that was doing something, and he had a pocket full of money in his lap.
02:25:57.000And he was looking through it and trying to fish through it.
02:25:59.000And as he was doing this, a guy came up in a motorcycle, looked at his money, pulled out a gun, tapped on the windshield, told the guy to pull over, and they just robbed him.
02:26:11.000Just stuck a gun in their face and just took everybody.
02:26:14.000And he said the guy would just drive around looking in people's cars to see if they had nice watches or what they had that looked cool and they would just steal it.
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