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00:12:54.000Cause in the movies, you know, like some stuff starts to happen and then like all the cops show up and it's like riots.
00:12:59.000So it's like, we were just kind of confused or whatever.
00:13:01.000And the whole like riot took place in like an hour and people like turned over a few porta potties.
00:13:06.000And so, everyone's been like tweeting out pictures of that as like white people riot too.
00:13:11.000And I'm like, no, no, like this is not, this is not comparable.
00:13:14.000Like, I was there for that, I didn't even know what was going on.
00:13:17.000Well, the only way you could compare it is: are there pockets of white people that experience such absolute poverty like pockets of black people?
00:13:26.000And until you have that, it's really difficult to make that sort of a comparison.
00:13:32.000Like, there's no giant ghettos of white people the way there are giant ghettos of black people.
00:13:37.000I don't know what that would even look like.
00:15:48.000It's like reparations is like giving people the lottery money.
00:15:52.000Like, lottery winners, they all go broke.
00:15:54.000You just give people reparation money.
00:15:56.000That's not going to make them feel better.
00:15:58.000The only way reparations are really going to work is if you look at, if you look at, okay, say you got 1865 was when slavery was abolished, right?
00:16:29.000But until someone steps in and does something with these incredibly impoverished areas, you're going to have this repeating cycle over and over again of people who were born in poverty in crime-ridden streets that have children that were born in poverty and crime-ridden streets.
00:16:46.000And occasionally, an athlete breaks through, and occasionally a comedian breaks through, or a rapper, or a musician, or someone escapes this cycle.
00:17:17.000You got to go in and figure out how to make these areas safer, how to make communities safer, how to make community centers and give people counseling and better education.
00:17:29.000Do you think that would actually work?
00:17:30.000So there's this thing called the Shaker Heights effect, where they found that even wealthy black suburbs in Shaker Heights, Ohio, still don't really do all that well.
00:17:40.000The Asian kids still do better academically.
00:17:45.000I mean, I used to be one of these guys that thinks that we could just solve the problems of the ghetto and move everyone out and everything would work out.
00:17:53.000But I think there's something to be said that some people like living there.
00:17:56.000There's kind of like an undercurrent of our society that digs the poverty stuff, that digs the gangster style.
00:18:02.000I think a lot of the people that do, it's because it's familiar.
00:18:07.000I mean, I think if you took that same child from birth and, you know, trans, I mean, if you, if you could, obviously couldn't do it, but if you could live two completely separate lives, if you could have two of the exact same people, and one of them is born to a really happy, educated black couple, and they live in a nice suburb of Atlanta where they go to great schools, and the other one is in Baltimore.
00:18:34.000And you get to see the same child develop with different stimuli and different environment.
00:18:40.000And one of them is like, fuck, I like the ghetto.
00:18:42.000And the other one is like, man, I'm glad I don't live in Baltimore.
00:19:50.000I think we went all the way to the Supreme Court of Missouri.
00:19:53.000Like, I like fought this one really hard because, like, people should know what these communities are actually like.
00:19:59.000Like, Canfield Apartments, where Brown was from, is like a fucked up hellhole.
00:20:04.000And, like, the more we're just, we got to be honest about these places.
00:20:07.000And, like, we need people to actually see them.
00:20:09.000So, whenever we get these riots, it's like, on the one hand, like, it's sad.
00:20:12.000And, like, you know, I'm obviously worried about my family that's there.
00:20:15.000But, like, on the other hand, it's like, it's such a great illustration of like reality, you know, like of like, you know, forget all of your progressive social justice nonsense.
00:20:24.000And like, in the final analysis, when the shit goes down, you either want to have a gun, you want to know a Korean who's got a gun, like you're in LA, right?
00:20:31.000Or you want to like, you know, take care of, take care of business.
00:20:34.000And people don't, people don't get that.
00:20:36.000This whole like, fuck the police mentality is really causing some serious stuff to go wrong in our society right now because people are starting to have this like mindset that like cops are evil, that they're predatory, that they're dangerous.
00:20:49.000And it's obvious why the Obama administration is pushing it because they get these consent decrees in where they can basically rewrite the policing rules and essentially take over the policing departments.
00:20:59.000So it's obvious like it's a power grab for like the control of these cities.
00:21:04.000And that's why like I think we should be very, very cautious about how far we push it because, I mean, yeah, there are some messed up cops and I think, but you know, you have to walk a day in these people's shoes.
00:21:14.000Like I did a ride along with the LAPD, which I highly recommend.
00:21:17.000And there's some stuff that they have to deal with just like on a routine basis that's pretty wild, like even here in LA, you know?
00:21:25.000I think the issue is not that cops are bad and that, you know, we need to clean up the police department.
00:21:34.000The issue is we need to figure out a way to make society safer for everybody involved, including the people that are stuck in those places like Brown's apartment complex and the neighborhood that he lived in.
00:21:45.000And, you know, growing up in that neighborhood, man, you're going to be fucked.
00:22:07.000Like he could have moved out with, I think his.
00:22:10.000Yeah, so that's what I'm saying, though, is that like, you know, to some people, like, living in these environments can actually be kind of rewarding.
00:22:16.000If you're a big dude and you don't have a lot of skills, you can be Big Mike and be an enforcer, you know?
00:22:20.000Right, but if Big Mike was living in, you know, San Francisco in a really nice neighborhood, progressive parents and went to good schools from the time he was a baby, he would be a different human being.
00:22:30.000I mean, so, yeah, I think you're right.
00:22:32.000But like, even if you look at like, I mean, if you just look at like the numbers for black on white crime, violence, and all that stuff, it's like, it's pretty, it's pretty shocking, even among relatively affluent areas.
00:22:43.000You know, it's, I mean, you know, there's been a lot of discussion, like, is this innate?
00:22:48.000Is this like just something we have to deal with?
00:22:50.000Like, there's this whole debate about the MAOA gene, which is like this gene that black American, you know, black Africans have, like much, it's like a proclivity to violence that they have.
00:23:05.000You know, I recommend people Google it and do their own research.
00:23:08.000It's like a big debate about whether or not, but basically like what it is, is it's, you know, if we, if you think about like, you know, kind of white European Asian ancestors as we kind of moved out of Africa, like aggression and violence was kind of less necessary because we were like farmers and stuff.
00:23:24.000I mean, you look at all the violence and murder and death that's been done by the military, and you think about how many people involved in the military are white and how many people making the decisions are white.
00:23:35.000I mean, ultimately, that's white people causing violence.
00:23:39.000I mean, I totally agree with you, right?
00:23:41.000Like the industrialized kind of like Naziification or like of like the industrial size, like military industrial complex is like a serious threat, no doubt about it.
00:23:49.000But if you like, there's a book by this guy, Steven Pinker, called like a hit about violence.
00:23:53.000And he's basically like, look, if you just look throughout human history, violence is actually going down.
00:23:58.000Because like back in the day, we'd be like in tribal societies and we would go and beat the shit out of this tribe and take their stuff.
00:24:04.000And most of the violence was like we'd spring up on people and then just butcher them and steal their women or whatever.
00:24:10.000And that was like the way politics was back in the world.
00:24:27.000Well, I think that if you looked at these people, I mean, if you're saying that as a whole, that white folks are generally slowly becoming less and less violent, whereas there's a certain percentage, whatever it is, of black people that contain this gene.
00:24:43.000Look at what black people have to deal with as opposed to white people, like what we were talking about with Canada.
00:25:18.000We never hear about people being like, you know, I started a great small business in the ghetto and the ghetto is, you know, my corner of the ghetto has now got Starbucks on every corner.
00:25:26.000Well, that was one of the saddest things about Ferguson was they were robbing black-owned businesses.
00:25:30.000Smashing down the windows, burning them down.
00:25:40.000You're using this as an opportunity to better yourself.
00:25:42.000You're using this as an opportunity to steal and just take things and claim that it's because this one guy got shot.
00:25:49.000Yeah, and you look at like, you know, like my in-law's family, they're Asian immigrants.
00:25:53.000You know, my wife's an immigrant from, you know, and you look at like the kind of neighborhoods they move into to kind of like, you know, run the corner store or run like The Quickie Mart, or whatever.
00:26:02.000Terribly racist to say that, but nonetheless, it's like there's some truth in the stereotype.
00:26:06.000And then you look at, like, welcome to America.
00:26:07.000We, you know, the Democratic Party, we love immigrants.
00:26:10.000And yet, if you build your little corner of the American dream, we're not going to protect you when the riots start.
00:26:15.000And you look at a lot of these businesses that were like burned out in Ferguson.
00:26:18.000And they were like, you know, a nice guy from India coming to this country, putting away some money for his family, and yet his property was destroyed.
00:26:25.000And there's a whole bunch of right-wing people on GoFundMe trying to raise money to basically make these people whole.
00:26:34.000But I think the technology plus the history of violence, plus the ghetto politics and the urban policy, I think all that's combining right now to create this massive craziness.
00:28:01.000And it's always these super liberal white people who are trying to strike back at the system.
00:28:11.000And you look at all those people who are like, I mean, it sounds like kind of silly to say this, but if you're delayed from work for like 30 minutes or an hour, that has a serious impact on your whole day.
00:28:33.000I think the idea that these hedge fund guys realize they were born into this privileged life and they want to somehow or another give back or make an impact, I love that.
00:28:43.000I just don't think that's the way to do it.
00:28:45.000And I think that they get organized like, fuck this system, fuck the, yeah, and everybody wants to put a backpack on and run through the street.
00:29:00.000And I would hope that some of this stuff will stop some cops from shooting kids when they don't have to.
00:29:07.000I mean, I think there are times where a police officer is saving someone else's life or trying to protect their own life and they have to use violent force.
00:30:07.000And what's kind of weird to me is that we've created a culture right now where the people who can basically be professional fuck the system people.
00:30:16.000And it's wild that these people exist in our society.
00:30:21.000Basically they wake up every day and they have enough money, they have enough donations, whatever, to basically just fuck the system professionally.
00:30:29.000And it's like to a certain extent, the system probably has accounted for these people.
00:30:33.000To a certain extent, they buy them off by giving them working on Wall Street or giving them prestigious internships.
00:30:39.000But to a certain extent, these people end up becoming tools of the very thing that they're trying to do.
00:31:01.000They're basically like giant money pits with have large endowments who then invest in, you know, all kinds of things like in, I mean, in, you know, if you look at like all the investments they're doing, like fossil fuels, you're looking at all the investments they do in like, I mean, colleges are so much a part of the system, right?
00:31:18.000And what they're doing is the social justice workers are taking their crazy nonsense that they're learning in schools and they're trying to imply it to like the rest of society.
00:31:25.000But if we did stuff like, if right away what we did was we said, look, any of these college endowments, they have to pay out like 5% of their, you know, of their tuition like we do with foundations, right?
00:31:36.000Immediately college is free for a lot of people.
00:31:38.000People aren't in massive student debt.
00:31:40.000But instead, the colleges fight for their privilege.
00:31:43.000So I think what I'm trying to say is that basically these people are basically the shock troops for the elite without even knowing that they're shock troops for the elite.
00:31:53.000If you think about like, if we talk like the rape culture stuff, right?
00:32:03.000I mean, it's really as simple as that.
00:32:04.000Like they're trying to end due process rights for young men on campus.
00:32:08.000They're trying to basically give a, you know, if you don't create a Title IX compliant college, you know, what we're going to do is we're going to sick our trial lawyers on you and sue you.
00:32:18.000So basically what the feminists say, right, this is how they get into like the whole college racket.
00:32:23.000We could probably talk about that if you want.
00:32:25.000But basically what they do is they say, all right, you're not creating a college campus environment because you allow too many rapes on campus.
00:32:33.000You're not creating a college environment that's like conducive to men and women.
00:32:36.000So like what you're doing is essentially because you have all these rapists running around, it's harder for girls to get good education.
00:32:45.000So, you have to create these like special courts.
00:32:47.000And if you don't create them to our liking, we're going to sue you.
00:32:49.000And you have a lot of money because of you have these endowments we just talked about.
00:32:53.000And so, it's basically like trial lawyers combining with SJWs to basically.
00:32:57.000SJW being social justice warriors for folks who have a life.
00:33:29.000But, okay, so what you're saying is that these people, it almost becomes like a gig.
00:33:37.000Yeah, they never mentally leave college.
00:33:42.000Well, that's a real problem with academics in general because a lot of people who are academics, they went to college, they went to graduate school, they got their doctorate, they got their PhD, whatever they got, and then they started teaching, and they never entered the real world.
00:33:55.000And they live in this world of extreme liberal values, extreme liberal biases.
00:35:00.000I also think that military is important.
00:35:03.000I think if you go to parts of the world and see how fucked up it is and you don't think you need to have a military, well, you're being a child because we don't live in utopia yet.
00:35:11.000We're not in a time in the world where it's safe.
00:35:16.000We haven't reached some age of enlightenment.
00:35:18.000We're on some strange gradual progression pace to one day be free of all the ape violence that lives in our genetics.
00:35:28.000I don't see it happening anytime soon.
00:35:30.000I mean, if you look at what's happening in Baltimore, it seems like a lot of the times our kind of primal instincts and our kind of violent stuff seems like it's lurking just beneath that thin veneer of civilization.
00:37:10.000And there's like a picture of me like, yeah, I put it up on my Twitter of me like reading the race matters thing while they're behind me discussing.
00:37:26.000But so explain the campaign because a lot of people have no idea what it is.
00:37:29.000So basically, there's this idea that Starbucks had, which was that like the future of the country, their view is that we're going to be a much more racial society, which is probably true, like, you know, diversity and all that, people moving in, immigration and so forth.
00:37:41.000And so their view is that we need to get ahead of it and we need to talk about race because that's like a big issue.
00:37:46.000And their attitude was like, if we get people together talking about stuff in coffee shops, it will be like, you know, it's like the old salons of the 1850s or something.
00:37:54.000People are going to be like debating issues and politics and all this.
00:37:57.000And it just totally backfired because people were not having it.
00:39:37.000So this race to get her idea was they would put a hashtag on the cup and what would spark up a conversation that would lead the fucking line.
00:39:44.000The lines are long enough for Starbucks.
00:39:46.000Those slow poke-ass motherfuckers need to drink their own coffee because they're always real slow.
00:39:50.000Well, imagine if you're like, imagine if you're like actually a barista, right?
00:39:54.000So you're like there, you're probably a barista.
00:39:56.000Like nobody like sets out and like, yeah, I'm going to be a Starbucks barista.
00:39:59.000Like this is not like something you set out like wanting to do with your life.
00:40:02.000I mean, I'm sure it's a perfectly good job, but like nobody's, nobody dreams about this when they're a little kid.
00:40:07.000And so you're working there, you know, you're having to deal with all these like, you know, bitchy, caffeinated people, right?
00:40:13.000And like you're supposed to just like, you know, take some time out to go and discuss race with some customer, some like stranger.
00:40:19.000I mean, it's kind of like, it's kind of like a very anti-employee mindset, right?
00:40:31.000No, what they'll do is they'll time people on like how long does it take you to do this coffee like when they're doing the training, you know, the training stuff.
00:40:37.000And they want you to basically, you know, do it faster.
00:40:40.000But apparently your experience is that it hasn't sort of worked out.
00:41:58.000And he was saying like, God bless you to people right before they're getting on their flights.
00:42:01.000And the TSA people are like, no, you can't say that anymore to people.
00:42:04.000And he's like, well, you made me swear an oath to like, you know, under God to like, you know, like, why can't I just, he's not even like a super Christian guy.
00:42:11.000He's just like, you know, God bless you.
00:43:00.000What kind of education in the subtle nuances of race relations are you giving these people before you have them communicate publicly on behalf of your company while an employee?
00:43:10.000Like I couldn't think of a more poorly thought-out idea executed by a giant corporation.
00:44:12.000I just think that if you just, I think he's probably just trying to be like a, you know, because he's a joke writer and he's like a one-word, one-line, you know, impact sort of a guy.
00:44:41.000Yeah, I mean, something you could see on his show, but it didn't quite work.
00:44:44.000Yeah, you can't fault him too much for it because of the way he communicates, like for a living, but as a person.
00:44:52.000Like, if you were hanging out with him.
00:44:53.000Well, you know, in fairness, like, I get some shit on Twitter because like, so I kept getting all this stuff, like, you're anti-immigrant, you're all this stuff, because I was like tweeting out stuff like, hey, we should be kind of careful about this amnesty stuff.
00:45:02.000And I was like, yeah, I hate immigrants so much I married one.
00:45:05.000And then all these people were like, all these people were like, you're using your Asian wife, you know, to like protect you or whatever.
00:45:11.000And then I just hashtagged it, my Asian wife, you know, and I was like, my Asian wife, yeah, like I was just like making fun of it.
00:45:16.000And then people thought I, like, the social justice warriors thought I was serious.
00:45:19.000So like all of like the Asian social justice warriors started being like, you know, my Asian wife is like a cultural like appropriation, you know, whatever nonsense they were spewing.
00:45:28.000And I remember just sitting back, like, yeah, as my, as my wife and I were like having, like, I think we were having like omelets or something in the morning, like just sitting on, you know, like, and when you, you know, when you wake up on a Sunday and you're still in your pajamas or whatever, it's like, holy shit, honey, I think I accidentally started a movement.
00:45:53.000The amnesty thing would be that people that have been in this country for a certain amount of time be allowed to be United States citizens?
00:45:59.000Yeah, I mean, here's basically the gig, right?
00:46:02.000So, like, people like my wife came to this country from Indonesia.
00:46:09.000They, like, followed all the rules and all this stuff.
00:46:11.000And then we've got all these people who come into this country illegally from like, you know, Mexico south of the border just because it's easier to get here.
00:46:17.000And there are a lot of folks who want to make them citizens.
00:46:19.000The Democrats want to do it because they get, you know, lots of voters.
00:46:22.000The Republicans want to do it because they get cheap labor, you know, and basically drive down wages.
00:46:28.000And I'm just like, you know, it's probably not a good idea to like, you know, give away citizenship like this because we have a lot of people who desperately want to get in here.
00:46:36.000And it's kind of like, it's kind of racist in a way.
00:46:38.000It's kind of like pro-Mexican in a way if you think about it, just like logically.
00:46:41.000Because, you know, there are people from Africa, from Europe, whatever who want to be in.
00:46:49.000You know, I have a very, I would say, unrealistic or utopian view of this whole thing.
00:46:54.000I feel like, first of all, I'm not a big fan of nationalism.
00:46:59.000I'm not a big fan of borders, but I'm also not a big fan of fucking it up where people have figured out how to get it right.
00:47:06.000And not necessarily that the United States has got it right, but I think the real solution is not to make it easier for people to immigrate.
00:47:15.000The real solution is to make it easier for Mexicans to live in Mexico.
00:47:34.000Doesn't Jesse Ventura have some crazy beachfront property?
00:47:36.000He probably has some like Alibaba dude, you know, who like, no, seriously though, like, you know, they have like some Mexican guy who's like the front man for him that runs his thing.
00:47:44.000But like there are all these anti-gringo rules down there.
00:47:47.000And it's kind of like my attitude is like everything we allow Mexicans to do in the States, we should be allowed to do in their country, right?
00:47:52.000I should be able to get a driver's license in Mexico.
00:47:54.000You know, you should be able to do all this stuff.
00:48:13.000Like if you were if you live down there like and you're like in cartel land and you go to the US and you get paid like 15, you know, 15 times more money than you would otherwise.
00:48:21.000I mean, why the real question I have is like, given how shitty things are in Mexico, why are so many of them still there?
00:48:27.000You know, like you have like a great country.
00:48:29.000Well, there's a fucking wall, first of all.
00:48:31.000Well, sort of, but like people are breaking in all the time.
00:48:34.000Yeah, but it's not easy, especially if you have children, you have a baby with you.
00:48:57.000If you really stop and think about the idea of going in a van illegally across a border that's got a fence and you have a baby with you and you're just hoping for a better life.
00:49:07.000But you know, I've been to, so my uncle lives in Guatemala, of all places, believe it or not, white guy living in Guatemala.
00:49:12.000But is he just banging young Guatemalan chicks?
00:51:04.000In a lot of ways, because they're about doxing people and aggressively pursuing actions against them, trying to get people fired because they don't share their ideology.
00:51:16.000Like the weirdest thing to me, and I think people have started becoming more, like I've certainly become more aggressive just dealing with their shit.
00:54:22.000So there's a story that runs in Rolling Stone magazine.
00:54:25.000And what happens is that it's basically this story.
00:54:28.000It's written by this woman, Sabrina Rubin Erdley.
00:54:30.000And the story is about a gang rape, like a brutal gang rape that occurs at UVA, University of Virginia.
00:54:36.000And basically, the story has an anecdote in there about this girl, Jackie, who was apparently raped by it was either like five guys or seven guys.
00:54:45.000And this anecdote was like such a big deal among like the rape activist types that it was actually used by this chick, Emily Renda, who's a UVA, former UVA student.
00:54:53.000And it was like used before, it was testified before Congress.
00:54:55.000So it was like, you know, under oath, like brought into the congressional record.
00:54:59.000And I was just, you know, the, the, the gang rape was so ridiculous to me because it was apparently like over hours.
00:55:05.000And I was like, what college dude has like the stamina to go for hours?
00:55:08.000So that was like the first, no, I mean, like, legit though.
00:55:11.000Like that was like the first tip off to me.
00:55:12.000And then the other thing too is it was like so graphic, so violent.
00:55:17.000So I was like, all right, there's a lot of stuff here that you can just kind of like tease apart.
00:55:20.000And then what happened was I figured out the girl's name.
00:55:23.000Like I went through and researched, like, you know, talked to some people at UVA, got like a list of all the kind of campus feminists and kind of just cross-referenced it.
00:56:19.000There was, I mean, she had a history of making up other stuff in the past.
00:56:22.000Like I talked to somebody who was kind of close with her.
00:56:26.000I looked into like the three people who are quoted in the article who are kind of like anonymously quoted.
00:56:30.000And then I started looking into more and more on Sabrina Rubin Eardley, discovering that she'd gotten in trouble for like faking stuff in the past.
00:56:37.000And I was like, all right, this is not legit.
00:56:42.000She, I mean, I put up some videos on my site at Got News, but basically her very first story she ever did for Rolling Stone was an interview of some, or a profile of a country singer where she got a lot of facts just basically wrong.
00:57:03.000She fabricated shit and she still got published in Rolling Stone after this was been correct.
00:57:07.000And this was like when she was a college student.
00:57:08.000So her entire career basically starts as winning the College Journalism Award from Rolling Stone while she was at UPenn working with Glass, Stephen Glass, the guy who was famous fabricator, The New Republic.
00:57:22.000And she basically, her college, her career, her entire life is at Rolling Stone.
00:57:28.000And she was talking about things like how she likes to shop around for victims.
00:57:32.000I mean, these are like verbatim quotes, how she has a good BS detector.
00:58:35.000You know, like, when are they gonna like...
00:58:41.000I mean, I know Michael Hastings was a great reporter and everything, but people call bullshit on some of his stuff too.
00:58:46.000And obviously, we can't check now because he's dead, right?
00:58:49.000But like, it makes you wonder about all the other reports that they do there.
00:58:53.000Because if they're, if they're so falling down on this one story, and apparently, like, you know, she's gotten other stuff wrong on other, you know, other stories as well, not just the one I mentioned.
00:59:02.000But, like, I wonder what, you know, if their standards are so lax for her, what the standards are like for the other writers, too.
00:59:08.000Well, it's always a problem when, because of a salacious story, because of anything that's big and juicy, you can become a star.
00:59:16.000Glenn Greenwald is a star, and he's a star for a legit reason.
00:59:20.000I mean, what he did was a legit story.
00:59:25.000And so there's a lot of people that may be less scrupulous that are looking at that and they're saying, if I can get some of that juice, if I can find a juicy story that I can cling to, I can also become a star.
00:59:39.000Like for me, the whole point of being a journalism, you know, being in journalism is to basically tell stories that no one else will tell.
00:59:45.000Because first of all, it gives you a monopoly, right?
00:59:47.000If no one's talking about a topic, then you own that topic.
00:59:50.000And then second of all, there are a lot of taboos in our society, like race, rape, military-industrial complex, drugs.
00:59:58.000I mean, you could basically figure them a genetic differences in intelligence.
01:00:02.000I mean, that's a big one that we're not supposed to talk about.
01:00:05.000And for me, what's weird about this is that journalism increasingly is used to justify the state, justify power, justify like, you know, basically to push agendas that then become law.
01:00:16.000And for me, that's kind of like not the point.
01:00:18.000The point is to give the finger to the man.
01:00:20.000The point is to basically be against the system.
01:00:23.000So I'm identified as being on the right, and I have some right-wing views.
01:00:26.000I have some left-wing views, but no one seems to ask me about those.
01:00:30.000But I'll do stories going after corrupt Republicans.
01:00:33.000Like I did a story, voter fraud within a Republican primary in Mississippi that was like ugly.
01:00:38.000But the thing is, is that people want, what they want is they want you to reflect their tribal views and their political views.
01:01:01.000You don't know what you're talking about.
01:01:03.000Even though I won awards that these guys competed for back in the day, I just didn't want to be in corporate journalism anymore because I thought it was too restrictive.
01:01:12.000Like you have so much of the culture right now.
01:01:14.000They just go after anyone that's new and different.
01:01:18.000And it's creating a narrower and narrower and narrower space for people to let their freak flags fly.
01:01:24.000And I think this is really, really dangerous for our society.
01:01:27.000And we used to be a society that was like, yo, this guy, you know, he's, you know, he's a crazy black supremacist, but, you know, he makes really good bagels.
01:01:35.000And I kind of like going and hanging out with him.
01:01:36.000You know, like, we used to be a society that was okay with a little freakiness among people.
01:01:41.000And now it's like you all have to think a certain way.
01:02:12.000We have different points of view, different genetics, different life experiences.
01:02:16.000Dude, the thing that makes me the most excited is when I meet somebody who like thinks something totally outlandish that I don't know and I start reading it.
01:02:22.000I'm like, holy shit, this guy's right.
01:02:35.000And who are like, you know, sticking it out.
01:02:37.000I think people have a real issue with admitting that they don't know something, and a real issue in admitting that they were incorrect in their assumptions.
01:02:44.000And some people don't ever They don't ever admit it.
01:02:47.000They don't ever say, I think I fucked up there.
01:03:22.000Like, what are, yeah, what are you doing?
01:03:23.000Do you think ultimately, though, that that's a good thing, that this Twitter thing, I might be like too optimistic, but I've been accused of that.
01:03:34.000But I think that this, the ability to complain about everything, the ability to interact with people instantaneously is ultimately a good thing because awesome.
01:03:43.000Because people like anybody that start, like you, or not you, but like anybody today, like some kid today can just fucking fire up a blog, some 17-year-old girl, and just say, I am going to be a fucking journalist major.
01:04:34.000I could basically do what I want to do.
01:04:36.000And I could have more impact than if I did the corporate route, where I basically have to pay your dues and get coffee and basically be like a cog in the machine.
01:04:47.000The fact that I, with 140 characters, you can basically, I mean, I posted documents that showed that people are lying in real time while they're talking on Fox News.
01:04:56.000I posted stuff like, I exposed this chick, Elizabeth O'Baghie, who was like the face of going to war in Syria.
01:05:03.000She like wrote a Wall Street Journal op-ed column saying that there are all these moderates there.
01:06:01.000There's going to be some confusion initially.
01:06:04.000But I think we're in this trend as a society, as a race, the human race.
01:06:10.000We're in this trend of expressing ourselves in a much easier way, in a much more instantaneous way than anybody has ever had the ability to do ever, by far.
01:06:21.000It's one thing we can pretty much say for a fact.
01:06:24.000As long as we've known about people and the things that people have written down, no one's been able to communicate the way they're able to today.
01:06:30.000And if you look at the slow progression of culture from the dark ages to today, well, what has accentuated that progression?
01:07:04.000Like to me, like to me, the most exciting thing is when I get a reader who comes forward and like has information that nobody else has had, right?
01:07:12.000Like I have a lot of like stay-at-home moms who work with me on stuff because like, you know, their kids are sleeping and they're like, fuck it.
01:07:18.000Like let's cause a revolution on Twitter.
01:07:19.000You know, like that is so exciting to me.
01:07:22.000And like when I learn stuff that like totally upends how I thought about X or Y, it's like, it's cool.
01:07:28.000You know, like the way I thought about this, there's this essay like I highly recommend called What You Can't Say.
01:08:41.000You know, I mean, if you want to go to Ferguson, and that's one of the things, one of the things that I thought was hilarious was this black guy on Twitter wrote that the thing that scares me more than the cops in Ferguson is all these white dudes that don't live here, that come down here, that are yelling, fuck the police, and that are trying to get like, you know, what we're talking about.
01:09:16.000And you know that there's some insincerity that's attached to it.
01:09:19.000And they know that if they go there and they put that backpack on, they put their fucking sock beanie on and they yell out all the right things and get the right fucking YouTube videos up, it'll make it look like they're socially progressive and they're a part of the solution.
01:09:35.000Like we've been, you know, you've probably been to sporting events or fights or whatever where you like, you feel yourself kind of overcome by, you know, like how violent it is or how exciting it is or whatever.
01:09:45.000And like you, you know, it's part of the human nature to like want to belong to something.
01:10:26.000I don't mean to be too nerdy on this, but you go on this adventure where you arrive at something approaching truth and you arrive at not knowing shit that you didn't know before.
01:10:36.000And some of that stuff can topple governments.
01:11:18.000Yeah, so like frat boys, the military, I mean, depending on what kind of story you're writing, the military is either the hero or the villain, right?
01:11:34.000so like I knew, I knew that the whole thing was bullshit.
01:11:37.000I offered like 300 bucks to somebody else because I wanted to go and hire other researchers.
01:11:41.000And I look for people who like flout taboos.
01:11:43.000Like to me, that one of the things that makes me interested in people is like when they're like, hey, everyone believes this, I believe this, and I'm right.
01:11:53.000So anyways, so I knew that this was all bullshit.
01:11:55.000And I knew it was bullshit because of some reporting I'd done, some other research I'd done.
01:11:58.000It took me a while to like find the name.
01:12:00.000It took me a while to find out more stuff.
01:12:01.000But I just started poking around more.
01:12:03.000And the thing is, if you've seen enough of these fake ray pokes or enough of these fake like, you know, race hate crimes or whatever, you develop this like weird, I don't know how to describe it.
01:12:11.000It's like I used to play chess all the time.
01:12:14.000And you see, in chess, you see all these games enough times that you're not even thinking.
01:12:18.000You're just moving the pieces because you've seen this orientation before.
01:12:21.000It's like the same thing with these fake crimes.
01:13:01.000It's going to blow up like probably over the summer.
01:13:03.000And what's going to happen is all of these weird people are going to come out of the woodwork and they're going to start helping me on other projects.
01:13:43.000Someone else could have gotten on our computer and typed them, right?
01:13:47.000No, but I mean, like, there were so many of these messages, like, in the deposition or the filing that they did to sue Columbia that it's like, it's kind of like outrageous.
01:13:56.000You know, like, some of the stuff that was described, like the sex acts, like stuff that it's pretty nasty, disturbed stuff.
01:14:02.000Like, I'm not, like, judging people's sex lives or whatever, but like, it's kind of not the kind of thing that you would expect from somebody who was like, yo, raped, you know, that wants to go and fuck her, rapist.
01:14:27.000But there's a lot of progressives, I don't want to call them progressives, let's just call them social justice warriors, that are making these really ridiculous connections between other acts and calling them rape.
01:14:38.000One of them is having sex while drunk, where two people, consenting people who are both the same fucking age, have sex while they're drinking, and the man is a rapist.
01:15:30.000And so what they did is what I did was I just said, you know, I wrote like, my cheating, lying ex-girlfriend is as reliable a source as she's a girlfriend, which is to say not very.
01:16:07.000Like, I can't even tell you how many, since I did the Jackie Coakley UVA thing, I've gotten like hundreds and hundreds of emails from people all around the country.
01:17:34.000If my wife and I get drunk, right, and then go in like, you know, like a bottle of wine or whatever, and I don't get, I've technically raped my wife.
01:17:40.000Like, that's how, like, wild, the wild this society is.
01:17:44.000You guys, even if you have sex with her and she's willing, she's not able to consent.
01:17:48.000But you know the whole thing, the Michael Shermer case?
01:17:51.000Do you know that whole case he was accused of rape because him and a girl had had sex when they were drunk and she did the language that she used, he got me drunk to a point where I couldn't consent.
01:18:01.000And then, you know, there was a guy wrote a blog about it, this asshole social justice warrior guy that is a professor.
01:18:09.000And they, you know, the guy's name got pushed out as a rapist.
01:18:13.000I mean, they were essentially saying consenting adults having sex is rape because both of them had been drinking, but the man was the rapist because men are evil, because it's sexism.
01:18:50.000And she's trying to torture him using the system.
01:18:53.000And so what he did was he sued Columbia and was like, look, you know, Title IX, you know, you can't discriminate against men.
01:19:00.000You're creating an unsafe environment for me here.
01:19:02.000You're saying you're allowing my rapist, you know, this woman who accuses me of being a rapist to wander around, you know, defaming me, even though you found me guilty in your bullshit kangaroo.
01:19:10.000I mean, you found me not guilty in your bullshit kangaroo court.
01:19:13.000So they found him like not guilty of rape, like under their administrative policies, which by the way, those things are like, they almost always convict you, right?
01:19:19.000So he's found like not guilty and he sues them.
01:19:23.000Like he's going after Bollinger, the guy who's the president there.
01:19:26.000He's going after the and this chick, you know, she's running around with her mattress saying that her rapist was on campus and he's dangerous.
01:19:33.000And this guy's like the mattress to her back, right?
01:19:36.000Yeah, she was like tearing it and stuff.
01:19:37.000Yeah, she was trying to like, it was her like a performance art piece.
01:19:42.000I really do think, I really do think, though, by the way, like, I think like legitimately, I think like Ruch and some of those like men's rights people, like I'm not a men's rights, you know, guy.
01:19:51.000Like I, you know, I'm a people's rights guy, you know?
01:21:02.000And look, kids, when they go away to college, they get drunk and they fuck and they make mistakes and they have sex with people they don't want to have sex with.
01:21:10.000But here's the number one thing that's fucked up about this idea of people drinking alcohol, having sex, and have that being rape or people being deceptive and calling that rape.
01:23:36.000Zach Alifanakis has a great joke about that, about a young man who died because he had sex with his teacher and his friends high-fived him to death.
01:23:47.000I remember there was a case recently of that guy who he got two teachers or whatever, and they found him bragging about it.
01:23:53.000That's how they like caught the two teachers because he was just bragging.
01:24:42.000And we had this like crazy case where we had this chick who like willingly, 15 years old, gave head to this guy on his 18th birthday and five other guys.
01:24:52.000I think it was like, oh, or four other guys.
01:24:54.000And the school just expelled all of them because of the Romeo and Juliet laws.
01:24:58.000Like if you're 15, if you're under 16, it's like rape automatically.
01:25:02.000And so they just expelled all five of these guys.
01:26:25.000But so anyway, so like one in 10 people, their moms or their dads are not who their mom says it is, right?
01:26:31.000Because from humans, we know that like women prefer the alpha male sperm, but the beta male to raise the kids because the alpha male will run away, right?
01:26:39.000So a lot of women we've seen like in fake rape cases, they'll go and they'll have an affair and they'll say, oh, that guy raped me, right?
01:26:46.000And we've seen this like happen time and time again.
01:26:48.000And that kind of stuff, like people lie about stuff.
01:26:51.000The thing that pisses me off the most about the feminists or like the social justice warriors is to say, what woman would lie about rape?
01:26:58.000Like as if it's like some unnatural thing.
01:27:00.000Like people lie about all kinds of shit all the time for like no apparent reasons.
01:27:32.000He was like banging some other chick, right?
01:27:34.000And the guy next door was like, you know, she fucked him to get him jealous and then said that this guy next door, like the nerdy guy next door, raped her.
01:28:11.000They love to do wonderful things like bring you flowers to get a reaction or they like to accuse you of things you didn't actually do in order to get a negative reaction.
01:29:03.000I mean, it'd be cool if that's how it worked.
01:29:05.000But, you know, the only way that does work is if the person is mentally healthy and not lonely.
01:29:10.000You know, the problem is people get lonely and they get sad and they get super depressed that that person doesn't want to be with them anymore.
01:29:17.000And sometimes that sense of loss, and it's ingrained in our DNA because it's how people stay together, which is how people procreate, which is how the human race expands.
01:29:26.000Because if it didn't, if you didn't have that sense of loss when someone no longer wants to be with you anymore, then you would have no incentive to improve your personality.
01:29:34.000You'd have no incentive to get your shit together.
01:29:36.000Yeah, no incentive to be a good mate, no incentive to nest.
01:29:38.000The whole reason why people have that feeling when someone wants to leave, that feeling of rejection is terrible because your body and your DNA is telling you, hey, fuckface, you got to learn how to be a more attractive person.
01:29:51.000You have to learn how to be more accepted.
01:29:53.000You have to learn how to figure out a way to be more valuable to mates.
01:29:57.000And that is one of the problems with social justice warriors.
01:30:00.000That same instinct to be more valuable and better is what's leading these people to loudly proclaim that they're fiercely feminist, that they'll go after men exclusively, not be objective about the situation, not saying, hey, maybe these two people got drunk and maybe this girl had sex with a guy and kind of regrets it, and then the guy didn't regret it.
01:30:22.000And now, let's just accuse this guy of rape.
01:31:19.000Not just like the sociological pressures, but I'm talking about like biological things because women, when you have sex with them, they get oxytocin.
01:31:27.000They get all the kinds of basically chemicals in their brains that make them attach to you.
01:31:32.000They have to come to get the oxytocin.
01:31:54.000And if you're a woman and you have sex with a guy and you regret it, and then the campus feminists come in there, the social justice warriors come in there and say, your regret is actually rape.
01:32:03.000It's a very biological thing that produces this.
01:32:06.000And then on the other side of it, too, you've got this other biological problem, which is that in all animal species, right, like rape, I mean, animals don't rape each other.
01:32:16.000That's basically like the whole point of the animal kingdom, right?
01:32:19.000So like you've got cases where males among primates will go and they'll just, they'll rape some desirable female because they're like the lonely animal in the tribe.
01:32:29.000So it's like, it's like in our society, if we had some loser dude as a last-ditch mating strategy, they'd go and rape.
01:32:37.000And I think that's like, that explains an awful lot of like the actual violent predatory rape that we see, not the kind of acquaintance rape.
01:32:59.000The idea that someone could go to jail for something like this or get their life ruined for something like this is just so creepy to me.
01:33:07.000It's so creepy that sexual attraction and then regret could lead to someone being accused of a crime, especially a heinous crime like rape.
01:33:16.000Especially about how much money you have to spend.
01:33:18.000So like Ellen Dershowitz, who I actually worked for back in the day, was accused of rape by this like crazy chick, Virginia Roberts.
01:33:24.000And he's been found like totally innocent and everything.
01:33:26.000But he's a lawyer, you know, like one of the best lawyers in the country.
01:33:29.000He spent all this like attention and money basically defending himself.
01:33:33.000And that's like a terrible situation because even though he's found innocent, even when people are found innocent, people still kind of wonder, right?
01:33:40.000Because you can never know what happens with two people.
01:33:45.000Like, that's what makes it so hellish.
01:33:47.000Well, once you're accused of something is as disgusting as rape.
01:33:50.000I mean, it's very difficult to shake that moniker.
01:33:54.000I got to tell you, there's a case right now in LA that's kind of like getting some attention.
01:33:58.000I wrote about it a lot, but there's this actress, Polly Perette, you know, like the NCIS chick.
01:34:01.000I don't know if you've seen that show, but basically NCIS, she's like accusing her husband.
01:34:06.000It's like this long-drawn out custody or long-drawn out like divorce thing.
01:34:10.000And she's been using the state and her restraining orders to go and hire people to follow her husband around and basically show up so that he gets thrown in jail.
01:36:10.000And so they tried to make it like this guy who's also kind of like a minor celebrity.
01:36:14.000They tried to use him and say like he's a stalker or whatever to advance their power and interests when it's really just a dispute that they had.
01:36:21.000And they got into an argument like as couples do.
01:36:23.000He divorced her and he then married somebody else.
01:36:27.000She was all like upset about this and she hired people to basically torment this guy.
01:36:33.000How do you know that he wasn't addicted or whatever?
01:36:39.000There's no record as far as her going to the hospital or no record of like abuse, no record of like, you know, of him like hurting her in court.
01:37:00.000See, the problem I have with that is there's a lot of women that don't want to admit that their man beats them.
01:37:06.000They freak out about it, or there's a mutually abusive relationship and the man takes it too far and they don't ever go to the hospital about it.
01:37:40.000She was trying to get her husband around.
01:37:42.000I mean, there's a lot of physical evidence in the case.
01:37:47.000I mean, not to tell you what to do with your podcast, but he's somebody you should have on because he's kind of an interesting guy.
01:37:51.000He's been, you know, he was like a total liberal kind of guy, and he's been dealing with the trauma of this.
01:37:58.000And there's, I mean, if you go to Got News, I've kind of written it out in kind of more detail, but there's a lot of evidence to kind of point me.
01:38:04.000I tend to be very suspicious of men who are like accused of, you know, accused of beating in general because like, yeah, like because it's common.
01:38:11.000You know, like a friend of mine actually, not a friend of mine, but you know, like a Twitter friend of mine, Todd Kincannon, who's a famous kind of Republican guy, was wailing on his wife for a long time and was apparently arrested for it.
01:38:22.000So I don't discount that, that that happens.
01:38:25.000But the evidence that's gone on here, the number of people, different civil rights groups have gotten involved, the number of researchers have gotten involved.
01:38:33.000There are a lot of people who are like, this guy could go to jail for a year on trumped up charges.
01:39:06.000There's men that stalk women after they just go crazy.
01:39:09.000There's certain people that that feeling that they get that we discussed before when someone rejects you, that horrible feeling of loss and just like, God, which is nature trying to get you to do some deep fucking soul searching and figure out how to be a better mate.
01:39:26.000When you're getting, when you're fucking on the regular, you know, you get certain brain chemicals released, you know, you feel good about yourself, right?
01:39:32.000Like, I mean, that's what the whole, like, when you first fall in love, you're getting all that octocin into your brain, which is like a narcotic.
01:39:38.000Like it's a, you know, it's an actual like, and then when you stop getting that, you go through withdrawals, right?
01:39:43.000And that's what you, that's why you feel like physically, like your body hurts.
01:39:50.000And you got to go and build yourself up to be a better mate.
01:39:54.000But a lot of people, unfortunately, don't.
01:39:56.000And then the sad thing is then they start using the legal system or their power or their money or whatever to then fuck with the other person.
01:40:04.000It's dark what people are capable of doing and deception and the fact that they can plot and conspire to have someone locked up for something just to sort of have an impact on their life.
01:40:12.000And I don't think it's like a, I don't think it's always an everywhere a malicious thing because I think sometimes you go, you just go crazy.
01:40:18.000Like, I mean, we've all had bad breakups where we're like, we don't recognize ourselves.
01:40:22.000Like the actions that we're doing like don't seem rational, right?
01:40:25.000Well, also there's some people that have some sort of crazy aspects of their personality.
01:40:29.000They're attractive because they're wild and impulsive and you love it when you first start dating them.
01:40:34.000You know, like if you're dating a girl and she pulls her pants down in the parking lot and like, come on, let's do it.
01:40:56.000My friend Tony Zara always says that, that psychotic and erotic are basically the same thing, expressing themselves in just different ways.
01:41:03.000Like the girls who are the most erotic and crazy in bed are all, they're fucking bananas.
01:41:08.000Like he only dates crazy girls because they're fun.
01:41:46.000Like, there's a legal system that's going to get you.
01:41:48.000Certainly if someone's inclined to sue.
01:41:50.000And my God, I mean, anybody that finds out about Mattress Girl and then still decides to date her after that, well, what a glutton for punishment you must be.
01:42:00.000I would be fascinated to interview that guy.
01:42:03.000Wouldn't you be like, what would you, I mean, what would you do?
01:42:51.000Like, it's not even a political thing.
01:42:52.000Like, whatever happened to just, like, this guy is nuts.
01:42:55.000Yeah, but this, the whole, the focus became, instead of his mental health issues, this is a guy in Santa Barbara.
01:43:03.000The focus became that this whole thing was about men's rights activists and pickup artists who have fucked with this guy's head and gotten him to objectify women and that women have to deal with this guy kind of person on a regular basis.
01:43:18.000Well, completely ignoring the fact that this guy murdered four men and two women.
01:43:23.000He stabbed more people than he used guns, too.
01:43:25.000People were trying to ban guns dealing that.
01:43:27.000But the whole thing was just so completely fucked up.
01:43:30.000Like, how can you, and I saw there's so many social justice workers, including one guy that I respect, wrote this article, his hashtag yes all women article.
01:43:51.000And it's sad, too, because like there's so many people out there who have like legit mental health issues that like we shouldn't be putting them into a like into like a Political or social or religious lens.
01:44:02.000We should just be like, we should just get these people help.
01:44:05.000We should try and identify them, not give them guns, right?
01:44:07.000Like, I think we, you know, those of us who are pro-guns, we should recognize that like there's some people who shouldn't have guns.
01:44:14.000Not that we should be overly restrictive about gun laws, because I think a lot of people in Maryland right now kind of wish they could have concealed carry, you know, in Baltimore and whatnot.
01:44:23.000But we should be like, we should stop trying to politicize everything and try to like help people.
01:44:29.000And the thing is, when you start framing these things as political discussions rather than like, hey, like, this guy's crazy.
01:45:10.000And what they're doing is they're using the taboos of the society to show to women that they're virtuous and that therefore they're deserving of female attention.
01:45:19.000And, you know, they don't know that they're doing that.
01:45:21.000I'm sure they see like a political lens to it, but that's what they're doing.
01:45:25.000I mean, this is also, by the way, while heinous, horrific acts are going on all throughout the world that these people are conveniently ignoring.
01:45:33.000Like you're not focusing on the Congo.
01:45:42.000They're not writing articles on some of the most heinous activities of the human race.
01:45:45.000They're writing articles about this one thing that's in the news, and then they're using it to focus on one very specific aspect of that thing.
01:46:16.000And then the people who do get access to it doesn't trend on Twitter and nobody really sees it, which is the sad side of our media landscape.
01:46:24.000What is the consequences for the woman who's a false rape accuser?
01:46:27.000Well, there's no victim because there's no real guy she pointed to, right?
01:46:37.000This is the thing that scares me, right?
01:46:38.000This is like, I don't like the Hitler reducto-added Hitlerium thing, but like, you know, like the Kristallnach thing when people were like targeting Jews, right?
01:46:46.000Like there's a certain aspect of this where like it becomes okay to hate certain people.
01:46:51.000And because it's okay to hate them, it's okay to harm them.
01:46:55.000And we are seeing this with like, you know, attacks on the police in Baltimore right now.
01:46:59.000We're seeing this with attacks on fraternities.
01:47:02.000I mean, if you, the social justice warriors are honest about this.
01:47:05.000They say like, we want to destroy fraternities in this country as like bastions of male power, right?
01:47:10.000Like that's what they're trying to do.
01:47:12.000That's why you saw, you remember that like video a while back at Oklahoma where the, you know, the frat boys were saying some racist shit, like, which was like, you know, we've all been in environments where people have said shit that like probably shouldn't be broadcast to the entire world, right?
01:47:25.000Like we've all been, we've all been like, I'm not saying, you know, the Donald Sterling thing is a good example of this, like a private conversation.
01:47:32.000I mean, if you can't have a private conversation with your mistress, who can you have a private conversation with?
01:47:35.000Well, no, the Donald Sterling thing, Jesus Christ.
01:47:38.000I mean, I had a bit about it in my act because it was so ridiculous.
01:47:41.000He's asking her to not take pictures of black guys in the same sentence.
01:47:46.000He said, I don't care if you fuck them.
01:47:49.000No, the joke I had in my act was, could you imagine if it was the opposite way?
01:47:53.000If he said, I don't mind if you take pictures of the black guys, but I don't want you to fuck them.
01:47:57.000People would be like, that's pretty reasonable.
01:47:59.000I think it's kind of somehow another it's racist because he doesn't want her taking pictures with them.
01:48:32.000That bitch is going to be broke as a joke.
01:48:34.000His wife is going after money that she donated to charity, like when she bought things with a credit card and you give away $5 for breast cancer.
01:49:30.000She had a husband that was fucking the hot young girl and buying her condos and buying her Mercedes or whatever the fuck he bought or of Jaguars or Bentleys or whatever the fuck it was.
01:49:41.000The whole thing is kind of hilarious when it's all played out in front of you.
01:49:45.000Yeah, you would think it would be like a, yeah, you would think it was like a Tom Wolf novel or like you would think it's like some kind of fun play or something.
01:49:52.000But I mean like with the Jackie Coakley situation at the University of Virginia, right?
01:49:56.000I thought it was kind of racist that we all like know Tawana Brawley's name, but not Jackie Coakley.
01:50:16.000But like, I mean, I'm sure there's some power that comes with being, I mean, it was brought up before Congress.
01:50:21.000Like they tried to pass like laws based upon this girl, based upon Emily Renda, who was her friend, who apparently has this whole other problem with her own rape story where she was allegedly raped.
01:50:31.000But there are like conflicting accounts on that.
01:50:33.000But like the thing that bothers me about this is not is not the girls, because I think there is something like mentally ill with Jackie.
01:50:41.000Like a lot of the people I've talked to who know her says that she's just not well.
01:50:45.000The thing that bothers me is there's this desire by a lot of like journalists now to go and shop, as Sabrina Rubin Erdley put it, to shop around looking for victims, right?
01:50:54.000Rather than to like tell the complexity of like, you know, an actual fight that goes on.
01:50:59.000I mean, what they do is they reduce people to like characters in their agit prop play, right?
01:51:05.000Rather than like get into like the motivations and the psychology.
01:51:09.000And they don't really like, they don't really do the actual work.
01:51:12.000They basically use the gang rapes or the more tawdry sensationalist things to basically push people, emotionally manipulate them to like advance an interest or an agenda.
01:51:24.000And what's happening right now on college campuses is they're eliminating due process rights for men.
01:51:31.000Like nobody was asking me to join the fraternity.
01:51:33.000Like I live with football players and I like, you know, I saw the progression, you know, the procession of hot women that came in and tried to fuck them.
01:51:58.000Because those are the men that just go to war and those are the men that defend them and those are the violent, aggressive men are attractive to their genes.
01:52:06.000Look, you can have a society, you can on the one hand have a society that like tries to turn us all into basically feminized men and then hope that things will work out.
01:52:15.000You need burly, disturbed men to go and break stuff.
01:52:19.000This is like what you need in a society.
01:52:21.000And if you're just constantly putting upon them and constantly, it's not going to work out well.
01:52:33.000So Rolling Stone publishes this story with very little vetting of the facts and just violated all the laws of journalism, which is so disturbing because Rolling Stone is this iconic magazine that, in my mind, is ultimately connected with Hunter S. Thompson and Matt Taip.
01:53:49.000And then with the Rolling Stone stuff, what I discovered about a lot of journalism out there that you see all the time is that it goes through very little fact-checking.
01:54:10.000And that article being in Rolling Stone was so disappointing to a lot of people that there's a lot of people canceled their Rolling Stone subscriptions, I'm sure, because of it.
01:54:19.000It's one of those things where you're always going to have to wonder about any scathing report that they publish in that magazine now.
01:54:26.000But you know, there's no story, right?
01:54:28.000There's no story without Jackie Coakley talking to Sabrina Rubin-Eardley.
01:54:33.000Because Emily Renda, who's like trying to push this campus rape agenda story, you know, this kind of rape culture fantasy, she was shopping around for victims.
01:54:44.000And there's no story without Jackie Coakley.
01:55:02.000Well, it's one of those things, this story, where you can't question a woman who says that she was involved in a rape because if you do, you become a rape apologist, you become a part of the problem, you become all, I mean, you attach a bunch of different negative monikers to it.
01:55:23.000And that sort of, that hands-off, non-objective approach to one very specific thing.
01:55:29.000If you talk about a man who's been beaten up, you know, and a man whose violence has been perpetrated on him, you can ask all sorts of questions.
01:56:17.000And when people we know are doing power plays to kind of like screw people over, I mean, I posted an article of 13 women who lied about rape on my Twitter page.
01:56:26.000And like, I think the rape shield idea existed like in a time before kind of the sexual revolution.
01:56:33.000So it made a lot of sense then, like when a woman's virtuousness or, you know, not having sex was prized.
01:56:41.000Like most people are having sex before marriage, right?
01:56:43.000Like a lot of people, you know what I mean?
01:56:45.000Like it seems kind of weird that we still have this thing where we keep the name of the vict of the, it's an alleged victim, but they always pretend like it's a real victim.
01:56:57.000And it seems like if we named if we named the women, you know, like, hey, so-and-so is accusing such and such of this crime, and we just name them like we do for attempted murder, like we do for all kinds of cases, I think we would get fewer of these fake rape incidents.
01:57:15.000Do you also think, though, that we would get few real rape accusations of actual rape because women don't want to be shamed?
01:57:21.000There's some women that the shame of coming out publicly about an actual real rape, it actually prevents them from going after a real rapist.
01:57:36.000I mean, this is people that have actually been raped where it's been proven they've been raped have said that they were reluctant to talk about it because of the shame that comes on them, the shame that gets put on them because of the situation where a woman gets raped.
01:57:48.000It's very different than a woman getting beat up or a man getting beat up or any other situation.
01:57:53.000When a person gets raped, it's a shameful, horrible feeling that this person has to deal with publicly.
01:58:00.000They have to be publicly humiliated by the fact that this guy sexually used them, held them down.
01:58:29.000There's kind of like this kind of like in the post-sexual revolution era, we're not sure if women should be virtuous or if they should be the same as men.
01:58:43.000Like if somebody came to me and they were like, you know, I was raped or like, you know, my sister or friend or whatever, I wouldn't be like, you know, shaming them.
01:58:52.000I don't know that, like, I don't know that the shame thing really is as true as it once was.
02:00:01.000If you get together with 100 people, especially when you add anonymity, like the anonymity that the internet provides, where you don't have the social consequences of being questioned for your behavior or your tweets.
02:00:13.000It's like being on the freeway and being a shitty driver, right?
02:00:28.000And you can do it anonymously and you can get away with it.
02:00:31.000So if you find out that someone has been accused of something or some woman is, you know, some crime like rape has been perpetrated against her, what's to stop some anonymous fuckhead from just harassing them and going after them?
02:00:44.000And a lot of people have like made of, you know, they've made a strong habit of doing that to people.
02:00:51.000Yeah, well, let's take like, let's take a good example.
02:00:52.000Like, so I was reading John Krakauer's book, Missoula, which is like about this campus rape phenomenon in Montana, University of Montana.
02:01:32.000But there's this case, University of Montana, where the guy's found innocent.
02:01:38.000And even after he's found innocent, he's still being tortured with being called a rapist.
02:01:42.000He's still being tortured with being called.
02:01:45.000And I think, I got to say, like, damaging accusations of rape.
02:01:50.000You know, rape is like a serious, terrible crime.
02:01:53.000It's like, as Dershowitz has put it, it's the most falsely reported crime, but it's also the most underreported crime that we sort of have in our society.
02:02:00.000But on the other hand, like, it should be a big deal to accuse somebody publicly.
02:02:04.000You should, I mean, under the Sixth Amendment of the United States Constitution, you have a right to confront your accusers.
02:02:09.000How can you confront them if the trial is occurring in the media without your ability to even respond to the anonymous allegations?
02:02:16.000So it's kind of like a trade-off thing, and it's really difficult to make the balance.
02:02:20.000Anyone who says definitively, like, I have the answer for you on this stuff, it's just totally full of shit because it's really hard to know what to do.
02:02:27.000You know, like, should we not write about the University of Montana case where this guy was found not guilty because he's now been found not guilty, even though he may have raped her, right?
02:03:48.000Yeah, there's not a whole lot of young women out there rioting.
02:03:50.000We did a video, which is making the rounds, called Good Morning Baltimore, you know, like that old...
02:04:03.000And it's like, it's really like, it's fucking, it's perverse, but kind of funny.
02:04:08.000But I think, I don't know, man, like there's something, I think there's something tribal about us as people that like, you know, I've had this experience at like sporting events or like at political events where you feel something like overcome you.
02:04:22.000And I'm like pretty rational, you know, nerdy guy, you know, high IQ on the bell curve kind of thing.
02:04:27.000But like there's something if I'm drawn to it and we're all drawn to it, like then the people who are really like dumb and poor and don't have a lot of options and yet they all have smartphones, like it gets really scary.
02:04:49.000When there's big things that are happening, there's horrific things that happen in large groups, in mass groups, that just wouldn't happen when there's one person.
02:04:57.000And I think the sporting events, like thing of the white people that riot, I think that that is like what I'm talking about.
02:05:03.000Like you're part of this tribe and it just like boils over because when you have a whole lot of like, you know, shitheads together, like we were talking about earlier, like 1% of them are going to be assholes or whatever.
02:05:11.000And I'm sure it starts really, you know, slowly, like one guy breaks something and then everyone else starts breaking shit, right?
02:05:16.000Well, I think that's also speaks to what we're talking about, the incredible difficulty of escaping from a ghetto because we imitate our atmospheres.
02:05:24.000And if we imitate our atmosphere, our atmosphere is boiling over into mad violence and rioting and looting.
02:05:29.000There's a lot of people that just succumb to that influence and just give in and be overcome.
02:05:34.000I don't think we're nearly as autonomous as we like to think we are.
02:05:38.000I think we are a giant superorganism and we have our own individual identities inside that superorganism.
02:06:10.000Yeah, we have, you know, we have groups, and these groups act as a unit.
02:06:17.000And when the group riots, I think people become incredibly compelled to become a part of that.
02:06:23.000And it takes amazing resolve and intelligence, if you're trapped in that, to avoid the influence of that.
02:06:29.000But like, so like take the case, like there was a famous sociological experiment where we took, we gave blacks in the ghetto, we gave them like Section 8 vouchers to like get the hell out of the ghetto, right?
02:07:00.000So that just goes to show like how much it's like a part of you once you grow up in it or how much it's a part of like your brain, you know?
02:07:07.000Like so this book I'm reading right now, this is like the best book I've read in like 10 years.
02:07:12.000It's called Sapiens and it's about basically what makes humans like what made us different from all the other homos or I guess animal homos, you know, Homo erectus, homo Neanderthal or whatever.
02:07:24.000And what he says is there's this thing that we have as humans where we take on fictions, like we believe certain isms, and that becomes like most primate species, it's like, you know, a few people are in your tribe and are in your group.
02:07:36.000You know, like humans, I think it's like 150 maximum.
02:07:42.000But what happens is that we all start to like believe certain narratives about the world in our brains.
02:07:46.000We get kind of like brainwashed or whatever.
02:07:48.000And then we start to act on our commitment to that fiction that we've created.
02:07:53.000And it's kind of wild when you think about it.
02:07:55.000Like there's so many fictions in your society, so many things you unconsciously believe, so many isms, but also like things like joint stock companies or like legal documents.
02:08:05.000I mean, all of law, if you think about it, it's just a fiction we all agree on.
02:08:07.000Governments, it's the same kind of thing.
02:08:09.000And this book has really kind of like challenged a lot of my thinking on this because like, you know, if you're in the, if you're creating this mindset that like people are so put upon, so put upon, so put upon, they'll start to act like they're so put upon, right?
02:08:21.000Because it's like they're, they get infected, their brains get infected.
02:08:24.000And it becomes really hard to persuade people, particularly it's like, it's pretty self-serving if you just say like, you're in the ghetto and you're fucked.
02:08:30.000Because like, you know, there are many examples of people like surviving out of the ghetto, people moving out of the ghetto.
02:08:36.000There are many, like human beings are much more malleable, I think, than of like, you know, escaping from terrible circumstances.
02:08:42.000And yet what we do as a society is we say like, no, you're fucked.
02:09:30.000So there were a number of black radical activist types in Chicago and the suburbs there, who basically black guys whose parents are doctors, lawyers, whatever.
02:09:40.000People who like, I mean, obviously not every black person is kind of like living in the ghetto.
02:09:45.000I mean, there are lots of them who live wherever, right?
02:09:48.000So what was interesting about this is there are all these cases of like, to be like authentically black, these kids who were like, you know, went to fancy schools, went to good schools or whatever, they felt they had to go and participate in like, you know, the anti-cop protests or the, you know what I mean?
02:10:03.000But isn't that also possibly because they recognized that they were lucky and they want to help?
02:10:11.000But maybe, on the other hand, I mean, yeah, you probably are right about that to a certain extent.
02:10:16.000I'm sure there's a motivation of that.
02:10:18.000But I also think it's kind of weird, too, that your parents give you all these options, right, to escape the ghetto and you return to the ghetto as like a, you know, to like cause trouble.
02:10:27.000But is it in their mind, they're not causing trouble.
02:10:30.000In their mind, they're trying to enact some sort of change.
02:11:13.000Well, ultimately, I mean, I'm sure they have the National Guards down there now, and there's probably going to be violence will escalate, and then, like, Ferguson will eventually calm down.
02:11:24.000Do you know what really pisses me off, though, on this whole thing?
02:11:26.000Are all these people who are trying to spin it politically?
02:11:29.000Like, all these people who are like, it's true, like, there hasn't been a Republican mayor of Baltimore since like the 60s or whatever.
02:12:27.000You know, we have a series of, we have the 12-year-old kid that had the fucking toy gun where the cops pulled the car over and just shot him.
02:12:42.000So that area is known for having people with those types of guns robbing people.
02:12:47.000It's known as a really shitty part of town.
02:12:49.000You're getting reports of somebody who's running around in a park with a gun.
02:12:53.000The cop was known for being an overbearing, overviolent cop who was released from another police force, and they didn't want to have to retrain him.
02:13:30.000And he did verbatim theater of the Ferguson stuff where they just read the grand jury transcript and it's caused like all this controversy and craziness.
02:13:48.000Like, I'd read the grand jury transcripts and everything, but to see like actual actors and human beings like talk about what actually happened.
02:13:57.000And then obviously the actors are making choices and whatnot, like how to stress certain words because we just have a transcript.
02:14:02.000But it was like pretty riveting stuff, kind of crazy.
02:14:04.000But if you look at the Darren Wilson thing is like a perfect example of this, like we don't really know what happened.
02:14:10.000Well, we definitely know that that kid punched him.
02:15:11.000I mean, like, if you have all these housing projects and the hellhole of like not having fathers around, I'm with you on all of this, right?
02:15:16.000But I think we need to be like, I think these communities are so intractable and the solutions that we've offered for many, many years of like, they're not solving the problem.
02:15:26.000And I don't know that we can ever really solve them.
02:15:28.000And that's kind of, that's like, to me, that's the most terrifying thing about this is that it's just a permanent feature of my life.
02:15:33.000I certainly don't think there's enough effort put to try to solve the problem.
02:15:37.000And I think the clear root of that problem is that I described it yesterday in terms of if we are a superorganism, we look at our, and look at our country as a microcosm of the world superorganism.
02:17:02.000If you look at like Dorchester, where I used to live, right, and how shitty and run down it was, you know, they're putting in all these new schools.
02:17:08.000They're putting in school choice things, charter schools, all that.
02:18:02.000And you got to put a lot of money into it.
02:18:04.000You got to put a lot of money into it in terms of trying to build up that community, trying to help those people.
02:18:10.000But if you look at like the LA public schools or you look at some of the public school systems out there, we pour shitloads of money into them.
02:18:18.000See, to me, what's scary about this, like I talked to my family in Baltimore, like if you know, what's scary to me about this is that like what happens is that they get political leadership.
02:18:27.000And it's not a Democrat-Republican thing.
02:18:29.000People are trying to put it in that lens.
02:20:07.000I mean, I don't agree with Obama on a lot of stuff, but I think Obama's right when he says that, you know, he quotes Faulkner saying that the past isn't past.
02:20:13.000It's not, you know, the past is not finished.
02:20:55.000So a lot of people think I take like joy in having I take joy in like exposing the truth always, but I don't take joy in like, you know, these people's property was destroyed.
02:21:50.000But I think there really is a political, electronic civil war going on right now between people who have narrative-based views of the universe and people who are fact-based.
02:22:13.000Lincoln said a house divided against itself can't stand.
02:22:16.000I don't know how we have journalists on the one hand who present facts and figures and trying to understand the world, and then others who try and basically preach and sell a crazy narrative of the world.
02:22:28.000Well, I think it coexists in that this conflict and the debate and the discussion.
02:22:33.000People like you or people like many of the people that are listening to this now or watching this or people that are discussing this right now on Twitter and arguing pro and con, these subjects get vetted out.
02:22:51.000And some people will change their minds and some people will be reinforced by this conversation and some people will be angered by this conversation.
02:22:59.000Some people are angered that I have you on.
02:23:36.000No, what I want to do with that is I want people to understand like, you know, there are people out there who, there should be a consequence for like supporting it.
02:23:44.000How could anybody support any fucking riot?
02:23:46.000There are people out there like Sally Cohn.
02:23:48.000I mean, there are people out there who are saying them.
02:23:49.000Sally Cohn, I think she's on MSNBC or she's on CNN or something.
02:24:24.000I mean, a lot of people were exposed to it from the wire, and they weren't aware of it.
02:24:28.000And the problem of the wire, as I tweeted the other day, is that there are far too many white people on it.
02:24:31.000I mean, that's what that's what this is showing to us.
02:24:34.000I mean, yeah, there's some truth to that.
02:24:36.000But, you know, and like if you're, my cousin likes to say if your city is known for the wire and homicide and all this other stuff, like, it's probably not good.
02:24:45.000Well, it's definitely a fucked up part of the country.
02:24:48.000And there's many areas that are like it.
02:24:51.000Detroit is pretty goddamn fucked up too.
02:24:57.000And there's some places now, because of YouTube and all of these videos that everyone has, rather, phones that can take videos, you can expose all sorts of shit that shouldn't be happening.
02:25:12.000Police brutality, and then there's a reaction to it.
02:25:14.000But do you know, like, so I've been thinking about this.
02:25:16.000I totally agree with you about the nature of like everyone has these, right?
02:25:19.000And how awesome that is, how powerful it is.
02:25:20.000Andrew Breitbar, others have talked about how awesome this technology is.
02:25:23.000But to a certain extent, when I turn on the camera, right, you're turning on the camera on me, you know, we've got this audio equipment, people change, right?
02:25:30.000So like to a certain extent, when you're running around filming stuff, some people are performing for the cameras.
02:25:37.000And I don't know what you do about that because you can't, on the one hand, censor it, because if you censor it, like that's evil and wicked, like we're against that.
02:25:44.000We have a First Amendment for a reason.
02:25:46.000But on the other hand, it's like the, what is it, that Pareto effect, or there's an effect where basically you watching something causes people to change their behavior.
02:25:55.000Like if you watch your employees, they're going to change their behavior.
02:26:11.000Unless an asteroid hits and we have a massive cataclysmic disaster that shuts down the power grid and there's no more modern display or whatever.
02:26:44.000So I don't think we should necessarily concentrate on that as much as we should concentrate on what are the lessons that we can learn from all this.
02:26:50.000And what I think ultimately we have to concentrate on these areas, whether they're Ferguson, which is a very high crime area, has been for a long time, or whether it's Baltimore.
02:27:02.000There's areas of the country that need help.
02:27:05.000And the people that grow up in there grow up in these horrible, crime-ridden environments that really don't have any other recourse.
02:27:13.000Yeah, I don't know what to do about it.
02:27:14.000I mean, like, one of the things that I kind of feel bad about this, you know, like everyone's going after this woman, Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, for saying, you know, we need a space to destroy.
02:27:25.000I know a lot of people are going after her.
02:27:30.000So she did a video where she said, actually, the video that we did of Good Morning Baltimore, with the riots, we started with this opening thing where she said, you know, we need a safe space for people to destroy, for writers to destroy.
02:28:57.000While we try to make sure that we were protected from the cars and other things that were going on, we also gave those who wished what is that?
02:30:11.000But I think that what's going on with all of these incidences is we're reacting to problems that we have in our society.
02:30:20.000We're reacting to these areas that need attention.
02:30:23.000And these explosive events that cause whether it's riots or protests or marches or all of these things are ultimately good because I think they cause people to focus on these areas that are convenient to ignore.
02:30:41.000I mean, I agree with you that it does spotlight this stuff.
02:31:06.000Yeah, I mean, if you're, if, if you're, there are two ways to bet, right?
02:31:09.000There's the pessimistic kind of like shit's going to go down, all that kind of thing, which, like, temperamentally, I'm probably more that way.
02:31:31.000But I think there's a, the same technology that allows us to spotlight government abuses can often, you know, in the wrong hands can be used to basically promote and do riots.
02:32:16.000I remember waking up one day and fuck, there was Wikipedia.
02:32:18.000Like, you know, like, I remember my first Google search.
02:32:22.000Like, I grew up basically with the Internet.
02:32:24.000My point was that Baltimore itself, as fucked as it is, as fucked as it's been, it's just these people that grow up generation after generation living in poverty.
02:32:34.000It's only been around a couple hundred years.
02:32:37.000This is a new situation, a completely new country, ultimately, when you look at the history of the world.
02:32:44.000Yeah, and you look at shit like crack babies, which we thought was going to be a huge problem, turns out to not have been a big a problem.
02:32:52.000And even things like social justice warriors or people that are going after college campus scenarios where they believe that there's men that are committing rape.
02:33:01.000Ultimately, what they're doing, even if I disagree with their methodology or disagree with their ideology that they're pushing forth in favor of objective truth, ultimately it's to try to stop crime, stop people being victimized.