Joe Rogan Experience #76 - Bobby Lee
Episode Stats
Length
2 hours and 15 minutes
Words per Minute
222.44531
Hate Speech Sentences
123
Summary
Joe Rogan is joined by Bobby Lee to talk about sex, sex toys, and a fake vagina. Joe Rogan and Bobby Lee are joined by special guest Bobby Lee, who is a porn star in his own right. They talk about how they got into porn, how they met, and what it's like to be a pornstar in the porn industry. They also talk about Bobby Lee's new sex toy, The Fleshlight, which is a vibrator that turns on and off in 5 minutes or so. Joe and Bobby also discuss how they clean up after sex and what they do to keep them fresh and healthy. They also discuss why they don t like the idea of having sex with someone else's vagina and why they think it's a bad idea to have sex with another person's vagina. And they talk about why they like having sex in front of other people's vagina more than they like sex with their own. And they discuss why it's bad for your reputation and why you should never have sex in public with someone you don't know. This episode was brought to you by the Fleshlight. You can get 15% off your first purchase when you enter the code "ROGAN" at checkout at checkout. Thanks to Fleshlight for sponsoring this episode! Joe Rogans is a standup comedian, comedian, writer, podcaster, and podcaster. He's also hosts a podcast called "Joe Rogans Experience" and is a regular on Comedy Central's "The Nodos and "The Office" and "Comedy Central's New York Times". and "Saturday Night Live." and he's a regular at a strip club in LA. and does standup comedy club called "The Realest guy in the world." . And he's also the host of the "Porn Star" and has his own podcast, "Bobby Lee is a fake vagina." is a "fake vagina" and he also does a podcast about sex and he does a porno, and he is also a "real vagina." on the internet, and his wife does it all of all of these things and he has a "fucking with his wife is a lot of other things, but he does all of those things in this episode is a real thing, too! and so much more. is his real name is Bobby Lee does it with his girlfriend, and it's not even funny.
Transcript
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But I just think of her as some dirty bitch in England.
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Not even gray, but you know how sometimes they have like six different colors?
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When did you stop sucking on your banky hooker?
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Speaking of army, before we get started, we have to do business.
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If you go to fleshlight.com or if you go to JoeRogan.net, there's a link for The Fleshlight.
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Click on it and enter in the code name ROGAN. You get 15% off.
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I know, but there's these beads on mine that you put in and it vibrates.
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Oh, so the last five minutes you're just holding your breath?
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And then you have two fleshlights, and so you have one on standby.
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It's like making love to an android, which is my fantasy dream.
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So only five minutes for these whack-ass beads, huh?
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You have to put three of those watch batteries, the little tiny ones, in them.
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You're talking about $30 a pop when you're doing it.
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Are you sure you're not talking about a competitor?
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Oh, maybe you've got a vibrator model or something.
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I do a whole bit about it on stage, but this really is controversy.
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Because people didn't want me getting sponsored by a fake vagina.
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Like, somehow or another, it's bad for your reputation.
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Now, when you have regular sex, does it take you 10 minutes?
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The interview where the girl sits down, so where you're from?
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When the penis goes in the vagina, I have to look at their eyes.
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In the eyes, they have to question their decision.
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Yeah, you know how when the penis goes in, they have to go, Mom?
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Do you associate that with any past sexual experiences where you see the look in the girl's eyes?
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She's like, what the fuck is Bobby Lee doing inside me?
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And then you get excited, like, tricked him again, Josie!
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I think that my penis, it's not even an ethnic thing, but my penis is abnormally small.
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I don't care about it because, you know what I mean, I'm rapping.
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But the thing is, is that, and girls, you know, they like my bubbly personality.
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And so then all of a sudden this party's fucking your mouth.
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Yeah, and when I'm out with a girl, I look in their eyes and I've never had the sensation of like...
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I have a friend of mine who had that same problem, and so what he started doing was getting, he got a strap on.
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And it was like, his dick would go on, and then this big fake dick would go over his dick.
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And he goes, just once, I want to see a girl have a hard time taking it.
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You think you would be, though, because most girls, even with your small dick, would be like, hey.
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Because for me, it's like, I want them to have pleasure, too.
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I know a girl that likes anal better than regular sex.
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Yeah, there are girls, and they're called broken.
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Those are the ones that also light your house on fire, by the way.
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I also imagine if you do an anal and you don't have a condom on, that the poop goes into my hole.
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When you piss after anal sex and there's a little poop snake come out.
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I've tried poop smell, though, and that was the worst.
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There's a girl I was having sex with a long time ago.
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Back when I was 21, I lost my boner because I was banging her doggy style and I saw poop around her butthole.
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I realized that she didn't really wipe that good.
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And then I started smelling it because of the funk of the sex and the sweat.
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You got to wipe yourself first, and then you got to get the baby wipes, and then you got to throw the baby wipes away, which is kind of gross.
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Well, if you live in an apartment, go flush away.
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But if you live in a house, eventually they're going to get clogged up and you're going to have to have a group of dudes come in your backyard and find this pipe stuffed full of your shit rags.
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Are you sure you weren't using them breakables?
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Like if you have, like in my area, we have issues with, because we're kind of rural, we have issues with trees growing into your pipes.
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You know, it's an issue like, well, there's so many trees out here, the trees will like grow through like a crack in the pipe.
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It's so ridiculous, nobody even fucking believes it.
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I couldn't figure out what was going on with it, so I had these plumbers come out.
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They pulled a fucking eight-foot tree out of my toilet.
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It looked like some sort of an animal, like somebody flushed some wood rat.
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Are you worried that if they open up the pipe, they're stuffed with wet naps, but can't you just say it's my children's?
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The diaper wipes, you definitely don't flush, because they're really thick and coarse.
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But flushable baby wipes, those bitches don't break up either.
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People say, because I pulled them out of people's pipes all the time.
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The issue, more or less, was that there was a root that was blocking part of the area.
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The one that was in the toilet was fucking ridiculous.
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I'll find it and I'll repost that shit on Twitter because it's just so silly.
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That was after I'd moved to Colorado, so I'd left the house for a couple months and nobody was flushing.
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Yeah, I just wish masturbating lasted longer for me.
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Because to me, it's just like I seriously have to focus on slowing it down all the time.
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With masturbation though, isn't that like you're just trying to get it over with?
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I mean, it feels good when you're doing it, right?
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Well, the other day when I was in New York, I tried to masturbate to porn on the internet.
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So then after about an hour, I finished half hard.
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And you always feel like a failure because my orgasm was like 50%.
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And I just sat there with this marshmallow in my hand, just sitting there naked, sweating.
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Me and Bobby were talking about how when we stay at hotels, we hate when the maid comes in.
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And I didn't tell you that, but I did a Spider-Man at the last hotel we were at, and it must have hit the lamp because it started smoking.
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Where I do Spider-Man in a hotel, where I throw...
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When I masturbate in hotels, I'm like, fuck this, I'm in this hotel.
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And I just throw the sperm at the wall like Spider-Man.
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Because some poor Mexican lady has to clean it.
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Yeah, but it dries, and then flakes, and you don't know what it is.
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But you know they think it's either mucus, or you know what I mean?
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Once I hit a picture frame, and I was like, oh, I better clean that up.
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The problem with getting into masturbating is then you like Ari had that joke about having a bunch of windows open trying to figure out what to jerk off to.
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And there's some dudes who, you know, they get so caught up in porn, it becomes like a legit addiction where, like, they'll have a conversation with someone and they just can't wait to go away to their computer real quick and just look at porn videos.
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I mean, that used to be a multi-millionaire business.
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I mean, there was some billion-dollar business, right?
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There were so many people in my neighborhood that were porn producers.
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They'd be driving around in Ferraris, living a good life.
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And I'd be like, look at this wild-ass rebel just filming fucking and making a billion dollars.
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These hookers can't stop talking about Charlie Sheen.
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Fucking Good Morning America interviewed one of the girls that fucked Charlie Sheen.
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And he allows you in his house, gives you free cocaine.
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You get to watch movies that haven't even come out yet on DVD. You want to watch True Grit?
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And then they disrespect him by, you know, ratting him out.
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Just a dude came over your house and had, you know, hey, we all watched fucking TV at Bobby Lee's house.
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And all of a sudden this dude is on, you know, the radio on Monday and he's telling the whole story about what he did hanging out at your house when you got crazy.
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You're like, that guy will never hang out at my house again.
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Can you imagine being that little kid from Two and a Half Men, how much tail Charlie throws his way?
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And also, that kid is so mad, probably, because the show can get canceled.
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They're trying to say all sorts of shit, like, oh, there's Appendix Burke.
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Charlie Sheen is fucking, for whatever reason, man, he's grandfathered in.
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I like how the LA police won't even do any investigations to these alleged cocaine briefcase charges.
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If somebody has a briefcase of cocaine, maybe you should find out what the fuck.
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And then second of all, what are you going to do?
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You're going to question him about whether or not he had cocaine for real?
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And then he's going to say, where's your evidence?
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And then the evidence is just some girl talking about it.
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Unless that girl wants to go in and talk to the government.
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You were doing cocaine, so you were doing something illegal too.
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TMZ has this awesome article on yesterday where Charlie Sheen's old friend or publicist or something like that used to hang in his life and get in a lot of trouble with him.
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And then he kind of disappeared for a few years.
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Well, lately he's been hanging out with this guy again.
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Yeah, Charlie's been hanging out with this guy again recently.
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And so they found him yesterday walking on the street somewhere in Sunset or something.
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It's also a testimony of what a great actor Charlie Sheen is.
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When you act, some actors get acting coaches, right?
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Once you've been on a sitcom for that long, it becomes very easy.
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News radio, the last couple seasons was super easy.
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And we would get a script, and then we'd fuck around with it for a couple of days, and then we'd put it up on Friday.
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You guys worked hard, and you guys had weird guidance, man.
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Those two dudes that were running it, man, those guys had odd tastes.
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I hosted it once, and that's one of the times...
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I hope that's where I met Brian Cowan and I hosted it once and I remember like talking to them about my like they wanted me to do a monologue and it's just like you know so I'm like all right I'll talk about this and I'll talk about that and yeah you know all right but it was just it was a real awkward I was like how the fuck did these guys get to be running some sort of a sketch show no it was the weirdest sketch show ever not only that it's like no one there was no like idea like people could just walk in We're a TV show.
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I just had people walk and go, hey, in my hallway where my dressing room is.
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Yeah, and I behaved like a fucking asshole toward the end.
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I knew her from back in Boston when she was on a comedy team.
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And the shit on her floor because you love her?
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No, but it was as a joke and there were two actors writing in there.
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Ike and Nicole Parker were writing and I go, stick this Tums in your asshole.
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So I stuck it in my butthole and then my butthole started foaming and then they both started laughing like really loud and then I shot the Tums out of my butthole and then a piece of poop came up after that, right?
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And it was a huge laugh and then Lauren, poor Lauren, you know, walks in and she sees a Tums that's foaming and a piece of poop on the floor and I had to clean it up.
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Because when no one watches it and like we had free ranges to act just as crazy as...
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What was bad is because there's no real boss, right?
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And so Warner Brothers didn't care about it, right?
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But every year they would go, yeah, you're going to come back.
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You and I used to have these conversations at the back of the comedy store where you didn't know what to do.
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I mean, they're giving me X amount of dollars a week.
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I mean, at five in the morning, you'd show up, no one's there.
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You would have this look on your face, man, sometimes.
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You would have this look on your face where you're just like, you didn't know what to do.
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So at 5 in the morning, you mean when you'd show up for work?
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You show up at 5, and then you shoot at 8 at night.
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Because, well, first of all, because comedians are irresponsible.
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Joey Diaz is the most irresponsible person I've ever met in my fucking life.
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Ari's fairly responsible, but even him is pretty nuts.
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She's on Mad Men and she was on the cover of Playboy.
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Christa with a C? Yeah, C-R-I-S-T-A. One of my best friends in the whole world.
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F-L-A-N-A-G-A-N. You guys, you have very weird friendships.
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Because, you know, you're friends with somebody, you poop on their floor, you're friends with somebody, you get sued.
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Her first day of work, five in the morning, she shows up and we had rehearsals in the actor's rehearsal hall.
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I grabbed the back of her head and I farted in her mouth while she was in yogurt.
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So then Ron Peterson, who you know who Ron Peterson is, right?
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The guy that went out with Natasha, you know, that whole thing?
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You know what the whole controversy between people are.
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Where Natasha left with a mad TV guy, Ron Peterson is the guy.
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What made you so confident to fart in this pretty girl's face?
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So then Ron Peterson physically attacked me, Mike McDonald on the show.
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When you grabbed her, did your butt touch her face?
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But you know how it's powerful that you can go through two layers of underwear and jeans?
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Yeah, and Mike McDonald puts him in a headlock.
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So then two days later, my manager, Abby, we had to sit there in front of the mad TV lawyers, and there was an awkward moment where they have it on tape.
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So I made a deal where I bought her a $500 gift certificate to Burke Williams.
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And I wrote her into a popular sketch that I did.
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You know, it's an unfortunate thing when people try to fuck around on sets and just have fun.
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You never know right before you do something sometimes if it's too far.
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Patrice O'Neill had a really funny point once where Patrice was talking about Imus.
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About when Imus got in trouble for saying something about black people.
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And he said that no one knows exactly what the fuck they're going to say before they say things like that.
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And sometimes you say things that are across the line.
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If it misses or it hits, it's still coming from the same place.
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It's like people that aren't in the comedy business, man, they don't really understand that.
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In order to be really funny, you can't really have very many boundaries.
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I have pictures of you tucked, standing in the middle of the...
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All kinds of things have happened growing up in the...
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I have a series of pictures of you with your pants down at the Comedy Store from over the years, where most of them he has his dick tucked in between his legs, and his legs pinched together, and your shirt is off.
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And then you show up at a corporate workplace, like a network show, and you bring that into there, and they're like, no.
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Yeah, when we were on news radio, there was a lot of chaos for a while because they would let us drink on the set.
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So we would be done with the show and we would get fucking hammered.
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We would get so hammered that no one knows this because I never took...
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We had a band that was at our studio or on the stage.
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It was me and Dave Foley and Maura Tierney just fucking smashed.
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And Maura goes, we can only get in the craft service room.
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I kicked open the door and went inside and we fucking chowed down, opened up the fridge, and then they were so pissed the next day they're blaming it on the band.
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And they were gonna, like, stop drinking on the set because of it.
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And Andy would bring these shady fucking characters over.
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It would just be strange smells coming out of this fucking dressing room.
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You don't get real good comedy unless you get the type of people that don't have that many boundaries.
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People that have pulled their fucking pants down.
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All my friends that are comics, they pull their pants down.
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I've seen like nine, ten comics penises over the last week, so You know what I mean?
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I've seen Polly Short's penis, I'm not even lying, 832 times over a lifetime.
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Chris D'Elia's penis look like Al Magical's penis?
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Well, Irish people are supposedly small penises.
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To me, the only difference between a Mexican guy and an Asian guy, except for culturally, but physically I'm talking about, is the eyes.
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If you take a Mexican guy, you get him really high, he's fucking from Okinawa.
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Well, they are Asian, really, because what American Indians are, it's people that came down from the Bering Strait.
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Well, some people have a different theory that mankind started in America and they went the other way.
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Human beings have been around so long, they've made a bunch of recent discoveries that have way, way, way pushed back the dates of civilization.
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We were talking about this on the podcast recently about Crete.
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It's an island that's 40 miles away from the shore and it's been that way for over 5 million years.
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And they found these stone tools that may be as old as 700,000 years old.
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So they know 100,000 years ago, dudes were getting on boats and traveling 40 miles.
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You know, there's a lot of shit we don't know about people, man.
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There's a lot of shit we don't know about people.
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But as far as like, what we do know is that the people that were in Asia are the same people that were North American Indians.
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And then North American Indians got fucked by Spaniards and they created Mexicans.
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They look like, you know, you could just make a fucking headdress and he'd be sitting bull, you know?
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And what else people don't understand is that, you know, Japanese and Koreans, which I'm Korean, right?
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We have cacazoid strains in our DNA because there's, you know, we're from Mongolia.
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And they're so close to Russia, right, that it mixed a little bit.
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Well, Russia, there's a lot of parts of Russia, like Siberia especially, where the people look very Asian.
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So they have a weird, you know, sort of an Inuit look to them.
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The real trip is the stereotype that they look exactly the same.
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And they don't, of course, look exactly the same.
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But it is kind of weird that you have an entire group of people with narrow eyes and the same color skin and black hair.
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That's crazy that there's a billion people like that.
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I mean, that's really amazing when you look at the very minute amount of variation as opposed to European countries and even African countries.
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It's just that, okay, I ran into you and Eddie once at the Sherman Oaks Galleria.
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You guys were working out at the gym there, okay?
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And there was probably 20 other Asians in my area, right?
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And so you recognized me from a hundred yards away amongst Asians.
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So what I'm saying is that we do have differences.
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This is dedicated to the people that will start fucking complaining either on a message board or on Twitter.
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But what's fascinating is that, especially in China and Japan, there are a gigantic group of people that look very, very similar.
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The fact that they were able to stay so pure for so long is really quite shocking.
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When you look at the history of the human race, the human race has been around for however many hundreds and hundreds of thousands of years, that they've been so concentrated in this area that it's been Asians breeding with Asians.
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That's the reason why I've only dated one Asian girl in my whole life.
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So when I was in the bed with her, you know how it's dark and your eyes get adjusted to the light a little bit, the darkness?
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So the girls that I date are always either six foot two blonde Scandinavian looking ones.
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Or like, you know, skinny tall Mexicans that are, you know what I mean?
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I knew a girl who was Chinese and she had a thing with her dad and just Asian guys made her throw up.
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Like, she couldn't even imagine an Asian guy fucking her.
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If you're so, just one group, just fucking whoever was the representative of that one group fucked up so hard.
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Yeah, but that's, you know, the Asian parents are really the worst.
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They are the worst because they come to this country and they just assume that they're going to have their children here and that they're going to be doctors and lawyers.
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So if you come home with C's, you're going to get a beat.
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Yeah, just beat because I got a C on my report card.
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Now, how do your parents feel now that you're real successful as a comedian?
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No, but when they first started doing stand-up, they didn't talk to me for years, bro.
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Yeah, I mean, I would say for birthdays, I'd go, happy birthday.
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But I understand culturally what that's about, right?
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And then when they saw me on The Tonight Show, Leno, like 12 years ago, I did it, right?
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That was the first moment where they went, Oh, we fuck up.
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So my dad called me emotionally, and I'd never seen the guy cry before.
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And he started crying on the phone and goes, I should have supported you, but I didn't because I never thought you could make it.
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The whole time, like me getting bad grades in school, me getting kicked out of school, you know what I mean?
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I don't know a single comedian that got straight A's and fucking studied all the time and had a lot of options.
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And that's why my last point is the reason why that guy Chiu Sung-wee shot up Virginia Tech.
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Because his parents were just super suppressive.
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His parents, okay, always saw the kid talking to imaginary people.
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Now, a normal parent would go, oh, that is a mistake.
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But since the kid was getting good grades in school, they just go, you know what?
00:34:29.000
They never address the problem that he's fucking crazy.
00:34:32.000
Like, my parents, you know, I got bad grades, but I was always a good guy.
00:34:36.000
Like, if I saw a homeless guy, you know what I mean?
00:34:38.000
I would give them a dime or whatever I had in my pocket, you know what I mean?
00:34:41.000
And I was never an evil person, you know what I mean?
00:34:44.000
But they didn't acknowledge that part of me, you know what I mean?
00:34:46.000
They only acknowledged that, is he getting good grades?
00:34:50.000
So as soon as the guy shot up the school, the Korean community harbored, okay, this kid.
00:34:58.000
So that's why you can't find an interview online with the parents, like what the fuck happened, right?
00:35:04.000
The Koreans harbored the parents, so the media couldn't get to them, then they shipped them to Korea.
00:35:13.000
They live in Korea, hiding, you know what I mean, in Pusong or something, in some village.
00:35:18.000
It's kind of a fascinating thing that when someone does something fucked up, you never blame who made them.
00:35:22.000
If my dog goes out and bites people, all of a sudden, you asshole, what did you do with your dog?
00:35:28.000
How come your dog wasn't contained in your yard?
00:35:31.000
But if your kid goes out and fucking shoots people and shoots up a school, nobody pulls you aside and goes, hey, what the fuck was going on when this one was being made?
00:35:39.000
I mean, you saw Jeffrey Dahmer's parents still defend themselves.
00:35:45.000
You can, but you can't rather, but who's to say that someone can't just be broken?
00:35:50.000
Who's to say that you can't just have normal people and this kid's just got a fucking wild screw loose, period.
00:35:59.000
Because, you know, I met your daughters, right?
00:36:02.000
Just these well-adjusted, beautiful kids, right?
00:36:04.000
I guarantee you they're not going to eat somebody, right?
00:36:09.000
That's a poor example because that's just a few that worked out well.
00:36:13.000
The thing about Dahmer is a perfect example because apparently he was never abused.
00:36:20.000
They weren't together, but that doesn't mean anything.
00:36:22.000
And the father, when he saw Dahmer with a dead dog, I brought home a dead animal, right?
00:36:33.000
He beat the shit out of me until I could no longer even move.
00:36:43.000
This is a guy that was killing a bunch of things when he was really young, right?
00:36:49.000
He's one of the few cases, from what I've read online, maybe you know more about the case than I do, but from what I've read more online, there's no evidence that he was ever molested, never had any stories about it, and his parents were seemingly normal.
00:37:04.000
But I think a lot of it has to do with upbringing.
00:37:08.000
I mean, look, if someone can be completely psychotic like that Virginia Tech Struder or like many other serial killers, I mean, who knows?
00:37:15.000
There might be a variety of things that can go wrong.
00:37:21.000
But there also, I mean, you have to admit, though, that there is a mental deficiency, right?
00:37:30.000
Are there medications that can give you a soul?
00:37:34.000
Because I think there's some people that are sociopaths, and they literally, they have no feeling for other people.
00:37:39.000
All they think about themselves, we know a bunch of them.
00:37:48.000
You know, there's a disconnect between, you know, these people and reality.
00:37:53.000
For whatever reason, and almost all of them, it's some sort of sexual abuse when they're young.
00:37:58.000
Well, you know, Mencia, I guess it came out in a different way, that was what you're saying.
00:38:05.000
Well, it can come out in a bunch of different ways.
00:38:08.000
It can come out in, you know, prostitution, and girls who do porn, you know?
00:38:14.000
That, you know, I see a side to him that no one, like you guys, don't see.
00:38:25.000
Look, I know, you've been with him for a long time.
00:38:30.000
Well, you're like the neighbor that, you know, when, well, what was Dahmer like?
00:38:46.000
I mean, fucking, maybe Ed Gein had a nice cat, you know, that he treated well.
00:38:53.000
Well, just in the sense that, like, you know what I mean, inspiring these huge movies like, you know, Silence of the Lambs and...
00:38:59.000
Yeah, it's a fucking scary thing because he was doing it back when there was no other examples of it.
00:39:06.000
It's not like this guy learned about it in movies and shit.
00:39:12.000
I think making a lampshade is worse than making clothes.
00:39:17.000
They found lampshades from World War II that Nazis made out of Jews.
00:39:30.000
How could you put that out in your living room?
00:39:37.000
I think they just fucking slaughtered people and did whatever they wanted to them.
00:39:44.000
Do you have in your house like a room devoted to Kim Jong-il?
00:39:47.000
Like newspaper articles all over a wall and circles and private investigator photos?
00:39:56.000
Because it seems like he would be your enemy right now if I was you.
00:39:59.000
Because it seems like he's in everything right now.
00:40:06.000
When he was a young man, he was asleep and he lived in an apartment.
00:40:10.000
And for years, carbon dioxide was blown on his head.
00:40:18.000
When I was born, I saw all the shows that you saw.
00:40:32.000
And what's crazy about my parents is they didn't even meet in Korea.
00:40:56.000
I had just moved to LA. I'd only been here for a little while, and I was doing a weekend at the La Jolla Comedy Store, and it was me and Jimmy Schubert and Bobby.
00:41:08.000
And we went to a strip club in San Diego and there was these Mexican gangbangers that were like the real deal, like tattooed tears in their face.
00:41:16.000
And this one dude, he had these crazy murderer eyes.
00:41:22.000
And Jimmy Schubert was like, I don't know what happened.
00:41:25.000
Jimmy was trying to get a dance from one of their girlfriends or something or said something to one of their girlfriends.
00:41:30.000
And so the guy got up and he got in Jimmy Schubert's face and Jimmy Schubert was trying to apologize.
00:41:45.000
And I just got up and I said, I'm leaving right now.
00:41:49.000
We were, like, moments away from someone getting shot.
00:41:58.000
There's certain dudes where you look at them and you go, these guys are posers.
00:42:07.000
And this is the old days when it wasn't even hard to go back and forth.
00:42:11.000
Back in the 90s, bro, you needed a driver's license.
00:42:14.000
You didn't have to have a passport to go to Mexico or come back and forth.
00:42:20.000
They could just drive back and forth, cab drivers.
00:42:23.000
So there was a lot of crime and dangerous crime.
00:42:26.000
It was like you would run into pockets of extreme danger.
00:42:29.000
And that's when we were involved in a pocket of extreme danger.
00:42:38.000
And I don't know if you were drunk at the time.
00:42:42.000
I was 23. I just left the hometown Poway was where I grew up.
00:42:52.000
Yeah, it's like 25 minutes east of downtown San Diego.
00:42:58.000
I wanted to impress you because you're a headliner and I'd never met headliners.
00:43:05.000
And I came across looking like a fucking asshole.
00:43:18.000
It's just a funny story, but I just remember, like, this little motherfucker's gonna get me killed.
00:43:35.000
There's a certain tweak in a person's eye when they've already killed somebody.
00:43:42.000
Three o'clock in the afternoon, I walked out of my hotel room, and all of a sudden, I'm on the floor.
00:43:50.000
And these two black guys from South Africa were robbing me.
00:44:02.000
No, I walked out and I saw these two guys kind of following me.
00:44:09.000
And the next thing I know, they throw me onto the ground, these two huge black dudes.
00:44:15.000
And then my face is in the dirt and they take my Blackberry and I had some cash in the other pocket, right?
00:44:20.000
They ran off and then Ian Bagg, you know Ian Bagg?
00:44:25.000
Yeah, Ian Bagg and I looked for two hours for them.
00:44:30.000
Because I was going to buy my Blackberry off of them.
00:44:33.000
Like they're going to accept money and give you something that's worth money for your money.
00:44:41.000
I'm just telling you this happened and the thing is I just don't have any street smarts.
00:44:57.000
I think me and Bobby grew up together in the same apartment.
00:45:10.000
What were you doing there for a month and a half?
00:45:11.000
I did a bunch of shows in Johannesburg, Durban, and Cape Town.
00:45:32.000
Okay, I saw a photo with you and Orny online somewhere.
00:45:42.000
The best audiences I've ever played in front of.
00:45:51.000
Because comedy is only like 10 years old there.
00:45:53.000
And you turn on the TV, you see Two and a Half Men, all these shows that they get from America, right?
00:46:00.000
There's a guy named Trevor Noah, who's a huge star out there.
00:46:10.000
If you're a stand-up in South Africa, you get ad campaigns.
00:46:26.000
There's plenty of places I don't get to go to in America.
00:46:29.000
I haven't been to Chicago in a year and a half.
00:46:32.000
Yeah, but what I'm saying is that if they don't know me, you know what I mean, and they're still coming out...
00:46:46.000
I mean, I had Orny and all these guys go after me.
00:46:48.000
No, but the thing is, is that the producers of the show were like, because Asians are third-class citizens there.
00:46:58.000
So it's like, you know, we were like riding in the back of the bus up until 10 years ago.
00:47:06.000
Yeah, they just, they were not, we weren't able to vote.
00:47:20.000
So I went up first and I could feel every show, dude.
00:47:32.000
Not judging me, but there was a feeling of like, what the fuck is this shit, right?
00:47:39.000
But the thing is, I know as soon as I opened my mouth and I just said the first couple jokes, I had them on my side.
00:47:47.000
Because A, they've never really seen Asians that have an American accent that doesn't have an accent.
00:47:55.000
And B, me just talking like an American, which I am, and then me C, being funny, you know what I mean, shocked them too, you know what I mean?
00:48:26.000
But for me, it was just like, you know, because I've just never been there.
00:48:29.000
And also, you know, there was just a slow time, man.
00:48:35.000
Did they pay you in gold coins and shrunken heads?
00:48:52.000
Like, if you're in Cape Town, it's like, oh, there's a coffee shop and a clothing store.
00:49:00.000
The only difference is they rob you everywhere.
00:49:06.000
One of the producers of the show said, yeah, I was on the freeway during the day, and some black guy just walked up to her door and said, I want the car.
00:49:22.000
Why would you tell me to go to a place where you get robbed all the time?
00:49:26.000
Because I'm just saying, though, because I just think that you're a great comedian in stand-up, you know what I mean?
00:49:31.000
And I just think that there's no one like you that's ever played there and that you could clean up.
00:49:49.000
Yeah, we went gaga on them when they first came out on the podcast.
00:49:55.000
But that's how I know about them, because of South Africa.
00:50:00.000
So you found out about them way before everybody else.
00:50:02.000
Yeah, and also those guys, the way they look, that's what a lot of the white people look like.
00:50:14.000
They have hip-hop stores, you know what I mean?
00:50:16.000
There's a poster or whatever, you know what I mean?
00:50:18.000
And they have radio stations that play just regular music.
00:50:46.000
First of all, he has a huge following in the Asian community.
00:50:51.000
They're just so happy that there's another comic like...
00:50:55.000
They just come out in massive droves to support him.
00:51:15.000
Because you do 12 to Amsterdam and then you do another 12 to South Africa.
00:51:42.000
What the fuck is going on on planes that make you feel so fucking bad when you land?
00:51:48.000
I feel like when I'm on a plane, I feel like it's the same feeling I get when I do a show and have three shots.
00:52:02.000
When you sleep on a plane, you always sleep with your mouth open.
00:52:07.000
And no matter who you look at, everyone has their mouth open.
00:52:18.000
It was the worst place I've ever been to in my life.
00:52:21.000
I did a lap dance from a girl, I kid you not, that looked like Dog the Bonnie Hunter.
00:52:28.000
Yeah, her breast was like, you know what I mean, shriveled up.
00:52:34.000
Yeah, she's touching me, but I'm laughing the whole time, you know what I mean?
00:52:37.000
Yeah, I just did it for fun, you know what I mean?
00:52:44.000
Dude, I got robbed the second of the last day I was there, bro.
00:52:50.000
So when the guy stole your BlackBerry, did you try to get another one?
00:52:54.000
Because I know I'm leaving this God-forbidden place.
00:53:03.000
Joe, in terms of what you would do there business-wise...
00:53:09.000
To me, what's the most important thing is having fun.
00:53:14.000
You know, like I got a gig coming up in Australia.
00:53:22.000
It's like all I could get because it was like a late last minute thing.
00:53:24.000
And that's because I'm doing the UFC out there.
00:53:27.000
I'm doing the UFC. And so the night before, I'll do a gig somewhere in Australia.
00:53:36.000
But I'm not traveling somewhere for 24 fucking hours to do an audience.
00:53:51.000
When you're at a point in your life where right now the only revenue you're getting is through live shows, you just kind of have to go, fuck it.
00:53:58.000
Yeah, but why fuck it when you just build up your audience in America, man?
00:54:11.000
Yeah, but I wanted to see great white sharks and shit like that, you know, too.
00:54:15.000
I mean, that was interesting about Australia, too, seeing crocodiles and shit and kangaroos.
00:54:18.000
And find out that fucking kangaroos kill more people than anything.
00:54:25.000
There's apparently two different types of kangaroos.
00:54:30.000
They're like 300 pounds and shit and they gut people.
00:54:36.000
And there's a toad out there that's more rampant.
00:54:44.000
Because they had locusts or something that they wanted to get rid of.
00:54:47.000
So they shipped these indigenous frogs from South Africa.
00:54:50.000
But the locusts were so high up on these leaves that the frogs didn't eat the locusts or whatever.
00:55:01.000
People are so goddamn smart trying to fix ecosystems.
00:55:20.000
Yeah, I got a call saying, come down now, because they need you, right?
00:55:26.000
So I came down, I did three sketches, I played Sulu, then I played an Eskimo, and yeah, yeah, and yeah, he's nice.
00:55:32.000
I hadn't met him before, and I got to meet Dr. Dre, which is great.
00:55:35.000
He has a huge black hand that just takes my little hand, and it surrounds my hand.
00:55:47.000
Like a giant gentle guy who put his hand on your back.
00:56:02.000
That was the fucking coolest thing ever when Ice Cube said, what's up, Joe?
00:56:21.000
So somebody backstage before I went up there, Gloria Estefan's in the audience.
00:56:31.000
So I went up on stage, and this is what I said.
00:56:40.000
And then, you know how they shine the light on her?
00:56:46.000
And I'm still smiling because I don't know I fucked up.
00:56:56.000
And if you're listening, Gloria Estefan, I Googled you after that.
00:57:06.000
Maybe she thought you were doing an Asian joke, though.
00:57:27.000
I did this one commercial with these two old men.
00:57:29.000
And I was telling one old man to go get me a cup of coffee.
00:57:40.000
And they're like, you know who those guys were?
00:57:42.000
Stan Mikita and Gordie Howe, who are huge hockey icons, right?
00:57:49.000
So you had Gordie Howe going, getting you coffee?
00:57:59.000
I was not a hockey fan when I was a kid, so I didn't know...
00:58:11.000
That's one of the first times I'd ever been around a professional athlete that had been fucked up from his sport.
00:58:17.000
I did not know how bad some dudes got jacked by their sports, but Bobby Orr had scars up and down both legs, where he had some insane amount of knee surgeries, like 16 fucking knee surgeries.
00:58:30.000
But his knees were so bad that he would play racquetball, and if the ball went to the left or to the right, he would just lean and fall to the ground.
00:58:50.000
It's got handles for your hands and for your feet.
00:58:52.000
And you go up and down, up and down with this thing.
00:58:55.000
And it simulates that you're climbing something.
00:58:58.000
You can't I used to have to put him on this thing.
00:59:01.000
What I used to do is I have to get behind him and I would have to hold his waist and he would put one foot in one of the stirrups and then you'd have to kind of lift him a little so he could get his foot into the next one because his knees didn't bend.
00:59:14.000
They went from like fully extended to like one quarter.
00:59:21.000
Well, John McCain seems like he can't move him past a certain point, like his shoulders.
00:59:29.000
Whenever I see him, I feel bad because Asians did that to him.
00:59:36.000
Yeah, they put him in straps, you know what I mean, and rope.
01:00:00.000
I got the call that I want you to play John McCain.
01:00:10.000
If someone said you're Vietnamese, though, you'd be upset.
01:00:35.000
Most people have no idea what we're talking about here.
01:00:41.000
Yeah, well, most people are not going to read the story about you online.
01:00:44.000
Bobby Lee once was playing around and said something about Vietnamese.
01:00:50.000
You look like Donald Trump fuck Frank Caliendo.
01:00:58.000
Look how Bobby Lee is John McCain and it does not look like John McCain.
01:01:01.000
But the reason why I said that was because of that fan.
01:01:08.000
Why I would say something like that in the fucking first place.
01:01:12.000
And it was because at that time, he was way bigger than me.
01:01:15.000
And I knew in my heart that I could just destroy him.
01:01:24.000
Well, it bothered me then because they were saying he's the funniest Asian guy ever, right?
01:01:31.000
I know a lot of Asian comics that are very funny.
01:01:34.000
Well, you know, what he had was a killer five minutes, you know?
01:01:38.000
I was one of the judges for Last Comic Standing.
01:01:45.000
It wasn't the best material in the world, but it was like, you know, who cares?
01:01:53.000
And then, for whatever reason, it was really funny, but for whatever reason, it just never caught on after that.
01:02:01.000
But the thing is that I know him on the club level.
01:02:05.000
Like in terms of like, if you were to put that, me, Koi, like any of the other Asian guys up there, you know what I mean?
01:02:14.000
Don't you think that that's corrosive thinking?
01:02:16.000
Don't you think that that kind of thinking is detrimental as a person to you?
01:02:21.000
Like when you're worried about what other people can do in comparing yourself to me?
01:02:30.000
I'm very happy for him because I went on tour with Ken.
01:02:39.000
I know his level and he's a hard worker, nice guy and he's a talent.
01:02:45.000
I feel the same way about Joe Coy or Steve Byrne or any of these guys.
01:02:49.000
I have no competitiveness with anybody but I just know at certain people's Talent level, and I just felt that he didn't deserve it.
01:03:09.000
I know, but you're still sort of defending it, right?
01:03:13.000
What I asked is, do you think that that behavior is corrosive?
01:03:16.000
By saying you're better than that now, you're saying yes, it is negative, right?
01:03:18.000
It's very negative, and it was a bad time, really bad time for me.
01:03:23.000
I mean, we were talking about someone else earlier that gets jealous about people.
01:03:28.000
For some reason, when comics see one person's success, they somehow or another think it as taking away something from them.
01:03:36.000
And for me, it's like I... I have accepted, you know what I mean?
01:03:50.000
I didn't know what I was doing, you know what I mean?
01:03:53.000
And I was going, you know, I had just gotten sober again, you know what I mean?
01:03:57.000
Just, you know, you're just sensitive, you know what I mean?
01:04:00.000
And so, yeah, I mean, in retrospect, it was really ugly.
01:04:05.000
That's one of those things you have to learn from, though.
01:04:07.000
But you see it so much in the open mic night days.
01:04:10.000
You remember when you were an open mic night guy and you were just starting out and then there would be guys that you worked with that started getting work?
01:04:25.000
Him getting that job is not taking anything away from you.
01:04:28.000
Yeah, but the thing that you learn over time, though, is that...
01:04:31.000
You realize there's so much work out there, right?
01:04:37.000
But at the time, when you're not getting jobs, you know what I mean?
01:04:43.000
It's just a difficult transition, you know what I mean?
01:04:55.000
Remember, like, during the show, you said he'd been doing it for two years.
01:05:10.000
All these things that he said he was claiming he was doing.
01:05:15.000
And also, Margaret Cho wrote him a letter because he had stolen a joke from her.
01:05:24.000
It's like, a buddy of mine, my friend John Tobin from New York used to say this, that when you work with a bunch of black guys, he goes, it's always if there's three comics and two guys are white and one guy's black, the black guy's always like, yeah, man, I was supposed to be closing.
01:05:42.000
He goes, and last, there's two black guys and the black guy, and then they're like, yeah, I'm supposed to open.
01:05:50.000
Because they want to be able to use all the black jokes.
01:05:56.000
Because there's so much hack shit that guys would just rely on because it would work every time.
01:06:00.000
Now, you're white people looking around seeing if you could laugh at this.
01:06:05.000
Every person that's a Jew has to talk about them being a Jew.
01:06:10.000
It's like when I went on tour with the four Koreans, we did the Kings of Comedy with me, Steve Byrne, Ken, and Kevin Shea, and no one wanted to close.
01:06:28.000
It's just the fact that all Asian comics have at least 10 minutes of their act about being Asian.
01:06:39.000
But you, out of all those, probably have the most material, right?
01:06:45.000
Do you still do that bit about the Vietnamese guy hiding in a can of coke?
01:06:58.000
That was in that video you were talking about, right?
01:07:01.000
Just before that we put up the one that you got in trouble for?
01:07:16.000
Well, for a couple years, I couldn't even look at you.
01:07:22.000
I didn't just get this because we haven't talked about it.
01:07:27.000
There was a time about, I don't know when, two or three years, that I felt that there was animosity between me and your camp.
01:07:41.000
Yeah, I felt that, honestly, I felt that, can I be, I love you, is that I felt that there was a weirdness because of the whole, the video that had come out.
01:07:52.000
And with Ari, you know what I mean, me and Ari not getting along.
01:07:55.000
Look, I called you when there was that video that you made, where Mencia made you make that video.
01:08:02.000
And I told you, I go, dude, I'm not mad at you.
01:08:05.000
Which was the one biggest mistake, I thought, because if you read the feedback...
01:08:15.000
Well, you know, I understood your point of view totally.
01:08:18.000
I knew you from back in the day, and I knew your relationship with him, and I knew that you knew he was sick, and you were trying to help him.
01:08:28.000
And for people who don't know, he just made this video saying that he never...
01:08:36.000
He made a video saying that he never saw Carlos stealing any material.
01:08:39.000
And it was one of those videos that looked like one of those terrorist videos where there's a fucking gun pointed to your head and a knife under your neck.
01:08:55.000
And literally six months ago, I erased the message.
01:09:08.000
So then what happens is, like, I come back from Canada and I... Now it's the new season of MAD, right?
01:09:18.000
And it's literally attached to MAD TV. Like the studios are, right?
01:09:23.000
So I'm like, and I hadn't seen Carlos since the video went out, right?
01:09:27.000
So for a couple of days, I'm like, I know how to get around.
01:09:38.000
Well, next thing you know, he grabs one of his cousins, comes to Matt TV, who's a friend of mine, brings me over, right?
01:09:46.000
And then I had like six Mexicans just sit me down.
01:09:58.000
And, you know, Carlos is there, Ned, and he just goes...
01:10:07.000
It was outside, and he just goes, you gotta do this for me.
01:10:14.000
The weirdest part about the video, though, what sucked is that you made this video that didn't even seem like you even knew the video you were talking about.
01:10:25.000
It sounded like you were talking about a video that you hadn't seen, which was even weirder.
01:10:29.000
I got caught between, you know what I mean, two camps that I, you know what I mean, I've always had a relationship with, right?
01:10:36.000
I mean, Joe and I have known each other for so long.
01:10:43.000
And then, you know, Mencia had a group, his group, right?
01:10:47.000
And I felt like I was in the middle and that, you know what I mean, I felt like at a time where I had to choose, I felt like.
01:10:53.000
I stayed out of it, you know what I mean, for the most part.
01:10:56.000
For the longest time, I wouldn't talk about it in radio or anything like that because people would bring it up.
01:11:01.000
I'd go on tour and they're like, so, you know what I mean?
01:11:03.000
And I'd be like, I don't want to talk about it, you know what I mean?
01:11:05.000
As far as just like the amount of interest generated by that, that's probably one of the most controversial videos in like the history of comedy.
01:11:15.000
But, you know, what was also kind of crazy was, you remember what the environment was like before anybody called him on that, where everybody was on eggshells and you were constantly terrified of that guy walking in the room?
01:11:25.000
He was becoming successful, and then it just got scary.
01:11:28.000
Like I said, you know, I just don't see that part.
01:11:43.000
Here's what it is, okay, like we said before, okay, that it is like, you know, one of those situations where the guy, when I was an open-miker, right, he bought me a car.
01:11:55.000
It was a used car, but I didn't have a car, right?
01:12:06.000
Obviously Pauly, because he didn't make me cry, you know what I mean?
01:12:13.000
Because they're all married and have 19 kids, and you know what I mean?
01:12:16.000
Any Mencia fan, you know, I love you, but my point is...
01:12:29.000
And I'd have to get early and bring the golf bag.
01:12:33.000
I did it once or twice, and I stopped doing it.
01:12:49.000
It was in the beginning, and I had to sleep in Albert's closet.
01:12:54.000
He took you on the road with him and you didn't even get a hotel.
01:12:58.000
This was literally in 96, 95. You know what I mean?
01:13:16.000
Just having to get up and there was a time where you had to sell merch.
01:13:20.000
And as a young comic, you don't know what to do.
01:13:30.000
So he makes you work for him on top of just opening up for him?
01:13:34.000
Yeah, but to be honest, a lot of guys do that shit, dude.
01:13:38.000
Because I have openers now, and I treat them with the utmost.
01:13:49.000
No, because that's another, you know what I mean?
01:14:08.000
No one on planet Earth talks to me like Pauly talks to me.
01:14:13.000
He talks to me like I'm literally his younger brother.
01:14:18.000
And I understand it because I've known him for so long.
01:14:21.000
But in the world, I'm almost 40. You know what I mean?
01:14:24.000
I don't let anyone talk to me the way Pauly talks to me.
01:14:32.000
He'll say stuff like, dude, you should be bigger than you are now.
01:14:45.000
I have to go to the comedy store once in a while.
01:14:50.000
What I'm saying, someone talking to you like that's not nice.
01:14:53.000
Yeah, but Paulie also, you know, when I moved down...
01:15:02.000
You know, and he brought me on the road, so it's like...
01:15:22.000
And it is like somebody saw you talk about DMT and tried to write a script around it, around living in Tokyo.
01:15:33.000
It has a lot to do with DMT. Yeah, but maybe they did DMT. Yeah, but how they describe it in the movie sounds like they're reenacting you.
01:15:46.000
But the first half of the movie is like, wow, this is fucking cool.
01:15:51.000
They show a DMT thing, what it feels like to be on DMT for the first half of the movie.
01:15:56.000
And there gets parts where it sounds exactly like how you describe it.
01:15:59.000
And then whoever directed the movie, which his name is...
01:16:09.000
When does it come out on DVD? It came out Tuesday.
01:16:18.000
If I ever make a movie, I want to make my movie look exactly like this guy.
01:16:23.000
But then it gets really annoying and there's all these like...
01:16:26.000
Well, one of the director's things is, like, it does, like, the strobe light thing through it.
01:16:30.000
It gets so bad that I feel like I'm getting hypnotized.
01:16:33.000
Like, this movie was made by Google or the government, and it's like, you'll see what I mean.
01:16:37.000
Like, you'll sit there and, like, I'm gonna have a seizure.
01:16:43.000
Do you know that there's an Olympic logo that they had to pull because it was giving people epileptic seizures?
01:16:48.000
It was an Al Roker thing where Al Roker, I listened to it on Opie and Anthony.
01:16:52.000
It was pretty fucking funny because Opie and Anthony were shitting on Al Roker because Al Roker was making fun of epileptics.
01:16:59.000
He said, so if you're still watching this, if you're not flopping around on the ground, you know, and so he starts making fun of it.
01:17:06.000
And then the next day he comes back and says, I was only making fun of the ad.
01:17:12.000
When you see this though, it's amazing that there's not fucking five warnings on the DVD before you even watch it.
01:17:18.000
Because it's so bad that it feels like you're being fucking brainwashed.
01:17:22.000
Well, do you remember that dude that we had on the message board that had a...
01:17:24.000
His wife was epileptic and she would watch certain avatars on people's screens.
01:17:38.000
I hung with him and his wife, and his wife has some weird condition where if she sees anything flashing, strobing, those little animated GIF files that fly, she would just, tongue rolls back, eyes roll back in her head, falls onto the ground.
01:17:55.000
What the fuck is it with people that certain things just make your brain shut off?
01:18:02.000
If you see this, you'll feel sick in your stomach when you see parts of this movie.
01:18:06.000
You'll have to turn away and look at the ground for five minutes.
01:18:13.000
The movie is so good at the beginning and interesting and you'll never see anything like it.
01:18:17.000
And the trips, the visuals, if you're stoned when you see it, you might have a panic attack.
01:18:21.000
I watched it in 3D last night and I was like, I am tripping right now.
01:18:34.000
I mean, it's still, I like it, but it just kind of fades off after it gets, it's really cool.
01:18:49.000
And it's notorious because there's a five-minute rape scene in it, in a tunnel.
01:18:53.000
Which, I swear to God, the most brutal thing I've ever seen in my life.
01:18:58.000
And people online say it's the worst rape scene ever.
01:19:14.000
I watched it on the way home from West Palm Beach, Florida.
01:19:20.000
When that lady started talking about her son dying and about her son got E. coli from a Jack-in-the-Box burger and how he was suffering at the end, I had to shut it off.
01:19:29.000
But even in the 70s, Jack-in-the-Box had a big controversy where not only one person died, but a bunch of people died.
01:19:37.000
And I've had some people email me and tweet me saying that, well, it's not really that bad.
01:19:44.000
But how can they be trying to shock you if they're showing you reality?
01:19:47.000
I mean, if what they're showing exists on any level, it's terrifying.
01:19:51.000
When they show these cows that are caked in manure, and this one cow, there was a plastic ring, and his stomach was exposed, and they were reaching into his stomach.
01:20:03.000
If you didn't know, I mean, look, if you like your cheeseburgers and you like to go to Wendy's at 2 o'clock in the morning, and I do too, man, don't watch this movie.
01:20:13.000
But these chickens, they give these chickens steroids and antibiotics and all kinds of things, and they fuck with their genetics somehow or another to get them to grow so ridiculously big and plump that they can't walk.
01:20:28.000
If people make fun of Chinese work, Yeah, they have those commercials about how they plump them up and put salts and stuff like that and just make them really fat with salt and water and stuff in foster farms.
01:20:40.000
So their advertising is based on they don't use hormones.
01:20:47.000
If it costs a couple bucks more, it's worth it.
01:20:49.000
I don't know how much more it would cost to not have cows.
01:20:55.000
Don't get me wrong, but the way that they're doing, the way they're producing meat for fast food, it's fucking crazy.
01:21:10.000
It's gotten to this factory, consciousness-less, just feelingless place where they're just stuffing all these animals in these small areas and getting as much bang for their buck as they can.
01:21:24.000
They make this food like they make an iPod, like it's a factory system, right?
01:21:28.000
And if there's no love or care or anything, it's just let's make the product.
01:21:32.000
That's why people make fun of Chinese all the time for the things that they eat.
01:21:35.000
Like if you ever go to a Chinese market, you can get anything.
01:21:40.000
The shoulder of a meerkat or whatever, you know what I mean?
01:21:50.000
People think that, well, also, first of all, China has a billion people.
01:22:01.000
When you feed a billion people like that, you've got to eat bugs.
01:22:05.000
There is a restaurant in Bangkok that serves animal dick.
01:22:08.000
And there's a six-month waiting list to get into this restaurant.
01:22:15.000
There was an Anthony Bourdain show the other day where they were serving animal dick soup.
01:22:25.000
That movie you brought up, Irreversible, whatever it's called, and the movie I was talking about, same director.
01:22:46.000
I was so sad when I was watching this woman cry that her son died from Jack in the Box.
01:23:00.000
The problem with us is, with everybody, is you're always doing something.
01:23:05.000
There's a supermarket, but you don't have time to go there.
01:23:09.000
The Waffle House is open, and you're like, okay, I have to go there.
01:23:12.000
The road gets creepy, as far as food choices go.
01:23:15.000
I always bring vitamins with me, and I try to eat as much salad and stuff on the road as possible.
01:23:20.000
I don't understand how they don't have 24-hour restaurants in small towns.
01:23:25.000
If everything closes at 11, it's like you can't eat anything.
01:23:28.000
I've been to Walmarts at like 3 in the morning, just getting like fruit, you know what I mean?
01:23:37.000
Yeah, if you go to small towns, there's no 24-hour food.
01:23:41.000
And you're staying at the Holiday Inn, there's no room service either.
01:23:46.000
Something we talked about a couple weeks ago came true when we were talking about how people's jobs are getting taken away by robots and stuff like that.
01:23:52.000
I was at El Puyoloco the other day, which is like a Mexican chicken place, and they had the order yourself kiosk up now where you sit there, menu screen, like taco, special instructions, no, burrito, and then you pay for it, kind of like a grocery store, and then they just call out your name and give you your food.
01:24:11.000
So they cut out the person that takes the order.
01:24:15.000
It was so nice because, you know, a lot of times you order, but you don't even think like, yeah, I would like extra tomatoes on this, but I don't want to be extra.
01:24:21.000
How many times have you been in a fast food place and you're talking, it's like, who?
01:24:23.000
There was a girl on the MADtv that had a really funny sketch about that.
01:24:27.000
There was a girl on MADtv, she's very pretty, and she had a very funny sketch about a girl who was the counter help, but she was always like...
01:24:38.000
That girl had a really funny Vietnamese nail salon.
01:24:41.000
Doesn't that bit have like 10 million hits or something on YouTube?
01:24:51.000
I'd heard that she was a middle, and she was middling and crushing and filling places, and then the headliner would go on after him.
01:25:02.000
He hosted, but now he's closing, but he closes with 30, which is fine.
01:25:09.000
Bring a bunch of good comics on the road with you and host.
01:25:12.000
You know, I watched Charlie Murphy develop an act from nowhere.
01:25:16.000
You know, I met Charlie two years into his journey, you know, and I watched him as he was trying to put together his acting.
01:25:26.000
Did you see that thing online of him getting booed?
01:25:52.000
Black crowds, once you start failing, they're not rooting for you to get back on your feet.
01:25:57.000
What I'm saying is that I go on the road and I get black people to come to my show.
01:26:07.000
There's a cultural thing, you know what I mean?
01:26:09.000
When you go to certain areas like South Philly or whatever, and you do a show, and it's all black, even in the lineup, and you have to perform, it's the most difficult situation ever.
01:26:24.000
Well, you know, it's a different kind of crowd and I think the good thing about those crowds is that they don't let you be indulgent and they want your jokes to come quick.
01:26:46.000
Because now I'm like, I used to be more energetic.
01:26:58.000
You know, when I first started headlining, I wanted to do what I did as an opener, which is go out and gung-ho get them.
01:27:13.000
First of all, it's not fun for the audience either.
01:27:16.000
It's like when you go to see a movie, it's not an opening gun scene that lasts for 90 minutes and then the thing shuts off.
01:27:33.000
I just feel like you have to be like Earthquake and just hammer it away.
01:27:48.000
Throw your backpack back and lie on your grass.
01:27:52.000
And then once you lose them, like in a white room, when you lose them, you think, I'll get them back.
01:28:05.000
The most important thing with black rooms is economy of words, first of all, and a short attention span.
01:28:12.000
I did my black version of my set once at Flappers and Burbank, and it actually killed.
01:28:21.000
Instead of doing your jokes normal, I kind of be like...
01:28:24.000
I went to the store the other day to get a hat.
01:28:56.000
No, I just don't do well in those kind of things.
01:29:14.000
What I'm saying is that there's two types of audiences, I feel.
01:29:17.000
That's why I don't comp when I go on the road because of the fact that if you comp, there's a general feeling of like...
01:29:27.000
But when you have people pay, people are respectful.
01:29:31.000
You don't have as many hecklers, you know what I mean?
01:29:37.000
They don't, not only do they not pay you, but you have to pay for your drinks.
01:29:50.000
Now, I don't know what Flappers is like, but I just don't like that disrespect.
01:29:56.000
There's some fringe clubs that are used to dealing with open micers and guys doing brainer shows.
01:30:02.000
When you go and do a set there, they don't treat you differently.
01:30:14.000
And in town, of course, I'll do a million free shows.
01:30:20.000
Isn't it funny how places like that are just a little bit outside of the city and they're a different world.
01:30:26.000
The crowd feels different when you do North Hollywood, do ha-ha.
01:30:33.000
Like, I thought that guy's died off or something.
01:30:47.000
Parlor Live is a new club there, and it's attached to one of the Microsoft buildings.
01:30:54.000
They have pool hall, dance club, comedy club in one floor.
01:31:06.000
It's like, it's a little outside of Seattle, but it's like 15 minutes from the city, right?
01:31:28.000
And the kids or the people that are in the audience are nerdy.
01:31:37.000
It's weird how parts of the country are not hit by the economy and other ones are.
01:31:42.000
When I was in West Palm, they were telling me that, no, we didn't really get hit by the economy.
01:31:46.000
Because it's all like retirees and old people with money.
01:31:49.000
I'm sure some people from West Palm are like, fuck you, we got hit.
01:31:52.000
But the club was like, they really didn't suffer.
01:31:56.000
Yeah, like Kansas City, they suffered, it feels like.
01:32:02.000
The whole thing is so strange because I don't understand the economy.
01:32:05.000
So I'm always like, okay, well, I guess it's better now.
01:32:09.000
Like my parents, for the last 35 years, owned their own clothing store.
01:32:15.000
You know, it's called, at first it was called Fashion Gal.
01:32:23.000
And so it's like, cater to, it's like Lane Bryant, but for ethnics.
01:32:30.000
And as soon as the economy hit, I mean, they went bankrupt.
01:33:27.000
Phoenix, like outside of the Chandler or something.
01:33:30.000
Yeah, that's a scary thing being an old person when your body is slowly starting to fade away and you're still laboring every day.
01:33:37.000
And by the way, that takes years off your life.
01:33:39.000
Getting up before you want to, working, doing things you don't want to do all day.
01:33:43.000
Yeah, but I told my dad, I go, Dad, you don't have to work.
01:33:52.000
I said, with the unemployment and social security, retire, and I'll take that over the rest.
01:34:08.000
Yeah, but it's sad because he's still got that ethnic, that Asian work ethic.
01:34:17.000
Yeah, it's a very weird thing, man, dealing with people's mortality and parents.
01:34:21.000
It's weird when you realize, and especially your parents get to a certain point in time when you realize you probably have more information in your head about the way the world works than your parents do.
01:34:29.000
Because your parents grew up in a totally different time.
01:34:32.000
You know, they weren't curious when they were young.
01:34:49.000
No, because I masturbate so much that what comes out is like vising drops.
01:35:08.000
Yeah, but then I have to heat the oil, then I have to let it cool, then I have to put the batteries in the back, you know.
01:35:13.000
Speaking of sex, there's a fucking, there's a story in the news today, and apparently it's a legit story.
01:35:19.000
There's a man who's suing GlaxoSmithKline, the pharmaceutical company, and he's alleging that there's a drug that they gave him to treat Parkinson's disease that turned him into a gay sex and gambling addict.
01:36:29.000
Because I put this up on Twitter, and a bunch of people who, you know, neuropsychologists and a bunch of different people who are qualified, started sending me, like, I got like six or seven tweets from people who either are studying it in school or actually doctors in the field, and they were saying that it's a dopamine agonist, I think that's the word, and that it does facilitate addiction, and it can interrupt your natural patterns of thinking.
01:36:56.000
But what I'm saying is that if you have an addiction of exposing yourself and doing gay sex, that's been hidden inside you for many years.
01:37:06.000
It's not out of the blue that I want to suck dick out of the blue.
01:37:17.000
Maybe it never, like regular sex, he's 51 years old.
01:37:20.000
Maybe regular sex was, God, I'm so tired of getting laid.
01:37:36.000
I've heard this phenomenon when people are so jaded with sex, like rock stars or whatever, that they get so tired of it, it just turns into Dick.
01:37:51.000
Yeah, but I think everybody's got their own little story about how...
01:37:53.000
I mean, there was a lot of bisexuality going on in the 70s, according to many people, Mick Jagger and David Bowie and Lou Reed.
01:38:04.000
You know, probably one crafty gay dude talked all these other dudes into, you know, it's just cool, man.
01:38:10.000
Plus, they're all doing acid and experimenting with their consciousness.
01:38:14.000
And, you know, it is like one of those lost taboos.
01:38:17.000
It's like, okay, well, let's stop and look into why is gay sex such a massive taboo.
01:38:28.000
And you're with David Boy and you're a big rock star.
01:38:37.000
What I was just saying was maybe they're experimenting with different ways of looking at the world.
01:38:40.000
Maybe they're being an artist and being like...
01:38:46.000
There's a lot of people that are creative people that are willing to take weird chances and do weird things just to see what...
01:39:08.000
But you're convinced, though, that this wasn't because of the pills.
01:39:23.000
He's been doing interviews recently where he says he was bisexual.
01:39:32.000
Okay, but this guy that never had any sexual encounters...
01:39:40.000
Like, he probably had it in the back of his head.
01:39:42.000
And because of socialization, right, he just refuses to address it.
01:39:47.000
And I agree that the pill did something to open his mind up, maybe.
01:39:56.000
Okay, that is a possibility, but why would you want to decide one way or another without being that guy?
01:40:03.000
How the fuck could you know what caused this guy to do gay sex?
01:40:06.000
And once you go into his past and interview him and find out, have you ever been attracted to guys?
01:40:11.000
Did you ever have a wrestling match where you got a boner?
01:40:17.000
If attraction and all these different things are really neurochemical reactions that we have inside of our mind or inside of our brain, if we figure out a way to stimulate certain parts of the brain with...
01:40:27.000
Look, think about what we can do as far as antidepressants and all sorts of things that affect mood and neurochemistry.
01:40:33.000
What if they can give you something that makes you attracted to the opposite sex?
01:40:36.000
What if they can give you something that you're gay and all of a sudden you like girls?
01:40:39.000
Or give you something where you're heterosexual?
01:40:47.000
They actually put research and development into this.
01:40:50.000
A bomb that they would detonate and it would be some sort of a chemical agent that would go into the air and it would make all these soldiers become rabidly attracted to each other and they would lose morale.
01:41:06.000
I know, but it doesn't seem like any drug would switch that, though.
01:41:09.000
Ecstasy has a very specific affection reaction, but it doesn't make you sexually attracted to someone.
01:41:15.000
It's very possible that there could be something as strong as what ecstasy does for you in terms of affection and sensitivity and feeling for things and a loosening of insecurities.
01:41:23.000
It's very possible that something else could do it in another way that all of a sudden makes you gay.
01:41:28.000
I mean, if you talk to a gay guy, like we have gay friends, and not you and I together.
01:41:41.000
When you talk to them, they never feel like there's something wrong with them.
01:41:49.000
I can't say his name, but the dude who's our friend, who's the piano guy from the store.
01:41:58.000
Well, the only difference is that he's attracted to men.
01:42:11.000
You know, there's a theory about homosexuality, and one of the more interesting theories was they did a study in Rome, and what they found is that when women are promiscuous, especially like habitually promiscuous, women that constantly cheat on their men, they have a disproportionate amount of gay sons.
01:42:30.000
And they believe that what it is is a variation of the X chromosome.
01:42:37.000
Men have XY. And they believe that there is a variation of the X chromosome among certain women that makes them incredibly attracted to men to the point where literally they can't even fucking control themselves.
01:42:47.000
Their number one obsession is getting new dick.
01:42:54.000
And their son all of a sudden has this incredible attraction to men.
01:43:03.000
You never met a girl that's just a fucking freak?
01:43:05.000
We've all met girls that just seemingly this poor girl's broken and she just can't help fucking everybody.
01:43:12.000
But the only way to truly find out if this is true is for me to take that pill and I'm not going to do it.
01:43:23.000
How many people took it and it just cured their Parkinson's?
01:43:30.000
Because look, how many people are addicted to peanut butter?
01:43:34.000
But if you give peanut butter to a guy who's addicted to peanut butter, he fucking dies.
01:43:39.000
There's a biological variation in human beings.
01:43:43.000
What if for this guy's, for whatever weird tweak, he takes this fucking drug and goes on a gay sex rampage?
01:43:51.000
He might be a freak, and he might be just a loser, and he lost all his money, and that's why he's suing this company.
01:44:16.000
Well, you're a 12-step guy, so you understand about all that shit where people are in denial about that shit.
01:44:22.000
It's a weird thing when you're around people that are in denial about what caused their issues, right?
01:44:27.000
I know that doing drugs and that kind of behavior isn't the root of the problem.
01:44:34.000
But if a guy is or has been shown to be a fine, upstanding human being, I mean, I don't know this guy's history.
01:44:41.000
That's the problem with having this stupid argument, or this conversation, rather.
01:44:45.000
When you lose that much money in gambling, immediately that's a red flag to me.
01:44:49.000
But it wasn't until after he got on the medication that he started gambling.
01:44:55.000
Gamblers are often, you know, they tell the truth.
01:44:58.000
I don't have a problem with gambling, but I easily could have.
01:45:01.000
I was terrified of it when I used to play pool and I used to be around a lot of gambling addicts.
01:45:07.000
And I used to see them and I would say, this is scary shit.
01:45:11.000
Obviously gambling is fun and it becomes too much of an addiction to these people.
01:45:15.000
Whatever it is, don't do whatever the fuck they're doing.
01:45:19.000
I was in the Fort Lauderdale Improv, and I put $5 in the machine, okay?
01:45:23.000
And I pressed the boat, it was a nickels machine.
01:45:27.000
And all of a sudden, the thing just went crazy.
01:45:35.000
Then all of a sudden, people are surrounding me.
01:45:43.000
So you're worried someone's going to jack your jackpot?
01:45:44.000
No, I'm just sitting there going, and I'm turning around.
01:45:49.000
And then the lady comes, because you get a ticket.
01:45:54.000
They go, you can't get a ticket because it's so much money that they're going to have to give it to you.
01:45:59.000
The lady comes up to me and she goes, congratulations.
01:46:02.000
And they go, so can I just see your ID? I gave her the ID and she goes, I can't give you the money.
01:46:08.000
She goes, your license is two months expired, which it is.
01:46:38.000
But the idea that I won a jackpot and they won't give me the money...
01:46:47.000
Yeah, but could you have just said, alright, hold my money, I'll go get my license, renew me back tomorrow?
01:46:53.000
But wouldn't casinos, like, hold your shit away?
01:47:06.000
Well, they had an opportunity to fuck you, and they took it.
01:47:15.000
They're in the you gambling and losing business.
01:47:25.000
Like, I know that people come, gamble at the casino, right, after my shows, right?
01:47:39.000
Well, now you understand the true nature of your relationship with them.
01:47:43.000
That's the nature of the relationship, by the way, with fucking virtually every casino and player.
01:47:48.000
The bottom line is the player is a mark, and that's what it is.
01:47:53.000
And the mark, it's just like you let him win a little bit, let him get a little bit, make him feel like he's got something going on.
01:48:02.000
Listen, even though we lost some money, we had a nice meal, we went to see a show.
01:48:09.000
But the bottom line is, those fucking, like, go to these gigantic places, like the Venetian or the Bellagio, these fucking huge fountains and shit.
01:48:21.000
But what I'm saying is that if I would have won, like, a bigger jackpot, like, two million dollars, I don't know what I would have done.
01:48:27.000
I would have physically assaulted an American Indian.
01:48:42.000
No, what you should start doing is doing a bit about it on stage.
01:48:52.000
But the thing is, they can take your fucking money.
01:48:56.000
So you're risking your money, but you can't get a return.
01:49:05.000
If you win at a slot machine, you get a ticket.
01:49:09.000
Anything over $1,200 that you win is considered a jackpot.
01:49:16.000
So then they have to fill out IRS forms and this and that.
01:49:18.000
If I just would have made less than $800 less, then I would have been able to take my money.
01:49:45.000
What is it about black people that they see community like that?
01:50:14.000
And I'm like, but it doesn't make any sense because they know me.
01:50:23.000
Well, you know, it's also probably a rule that they can't circumvent.
01:50:26.000
I mean, who you're talking to is probably a guy who's going by corporate bylines, and this is the rules.
01:50:32.000
I mean, even though they know you, they have to kind of assume.
01:50:35.000
You know, if you can't write down a valid driver's license in the receipt so that you can get taxed on it...
01:50:39.000
It just seems like they should be able to hold it for you.
01:50:50.000
It seems like that's what casinos do anyways because they have, you know, you go there, like you're Jay-Z and stuff like that.
01:50:55.000
You have like a, you know, like almost a bank account with these people.
01:51:41.000
No, he was just basically really cool about it.
01:52:03.000
I mean, it does make sense that they can't hook you up.
01:52:08.000
No, it doesn't make sense because, Joe, I basically work for that casino.
01:52:15.000
I work for Joel, but he has a relationship with them.
01:52:18.000
And it's not like I don't play there every week.
01:52:37.000
Yeah, because I remember when we were back in, when I was doing the store, we would talk about it all the time.
01:52:43.000
And then we were somewhere recently, like I think it was San Jose, and they would say, yeah, Bobby Lee was just here to pack the place.
01:52:51.000
That's the only reason now I go, because when I used to go on the road before, no one would come.
01:53:06.000
Or if they do, they don't know that I do stand-up, right?
01:53:12.000
And then the second time back, it's always better because I know that I deliver.
01:53:18.000
And so the people that saw you, they come see you again.
01:53:22.000
Like if you say you do a gig, how long before you come back?
01:53:26.000
And how much of your material will be new in that year?
01:53:29.000
Maybe, and I'll be honest with you, not as much as maybe the next guy, but about 10-15 minutes.
01:53:39.000
But the thing is, here's the thing is that a lot of my stuff now is improvised.
01:53:43.000
I have moments of just playing with the audience.
01:53:46.000
And also my thing is there's an element of crazy in my show where I usually go in the audience and I do crazy shit.
01:53:54.000
Like, you know, like if somebody will get up to go to the bathroom, I'll chase them out of the room and follow them to the bathroom.
01:54:05.000
I'll be in my underwear and I'll fall them into the bathroom.
01:54:07.000
Have you ever gotten in trouble for pulling your pants down?
01:54:09.000
Yeah, I did this one thing where I wanted to give a guy a lap dance.
01:54:22.000
And you can tell that this guy was extremely homophobic.
01:54:26.000
So the music's playing and I jump on top of him.
01:54:31.000
And he literally picked my body and threw me into the ground.
01:54:35.000
And I hit the ground, you know what I mean, on my back.
01:54:38.000
And I got knocked unconscious for like a split second.
01:55:08.000
And I stood back out, and I looked in his eyes, and he kind of went, he kind of liked the laugh.
01:55:18.000
Like, get off me, gook, you know, kind of thing.
01:55:24.000
But in the eyes, I can tell that there was a thing.
01:55:34.000
When you're ad-libbing with someone, you don't know exactly where this is going to go.
01:55:39.000
Well, it's also, too, you and I both came up in the store.
01:55:43.000
And the store, I mean, we've talked about this so many times in the podcast, the store for all its terrible qualities.
01:55:47.000
The best thing about it is the fact that no one was paying attention, ever.
01:55:53.000
The comics are forced to take care of audiences themselves.
01:55:56.000
And sometimes you just deal with incredibly hostile audiences.
01:56:00.000
I've never worked at a club consistently where there's more insane shit happening.
01:56:05.000
And people say, like, I hear other comments go, yeah, this room is tough.
01:56:12.000
If they haven't worked at the store, like, there's so many people that go, yeah, that place is evil.
01:56:23.000
I think that quality is because of the fact that it's C-Rose Nightclub, the fact that it was Bugsy Siegel's place.
01:56:28.000
You can't get past the fact that people were murdered in that place.
01:56:31.000
Yeah, but it also has to do with the color of the building.
01:56:35.000
You know how they say you can't paint your walls in your bedroom red, like blood red, because psychologically it's not good for you.
01:56:45.000
I try to paint my room silver once and they go, it's not because you'll feel like you're trapped in it.
01:56:59.000
See, this is the color what walls, but these are neutral colors.
01:57:04.000
Yeah, I feel like this is the color I'm going to leave it here just for you, bro.
01:57:29.000
The staff there are so friendly and thankful and kind.
01:57:33.000
For years you dealt with at the store, them pretending that the store was the star and you were lucky to work there.
01:57:40.000
No matter what you did, you could never do enough.
01:57:47.000
Because I used to either go up before or after you in the studio.
01:57:51.000
It was hard to go up after you, but sometimes they would put me up after you.
01:57:53.000
But there was still an energy in the OR, I swear to God, that's different than it is now.
01:57:58.000
Not that we don't get an audience, but it's a different kind of vibe.
01:58:01.000
Well, I was bringing my specific thoughts on comedy, my specific thoughts on life is let's have fun.
01:58:12.000
Let's look at all this shit, but let's be nice to each other and let's have a good fucking time.
01:58:15.000
That's one of the reasons why whenever anything crazy would happen at the store, I would always make it a big point to buy everyone in the audience a drink.
01:58:27.000
I would kick people out and then I would spend thousands of dollars buying 300 people drinks, you know?
01:58:35.000
But why didn't you – why did you leave in the first place?
01:58:39.000
See, the whole thing that happened was when the Mencia shit went down, I called Mitzi, who's the owner of the club.
01:58:45.000
And Mitzi and I have had a relationship way back to 1994 when I first met her, when I first came to Hollywood.
01:58:54.000
To me, it was more important, and this is not bullshit, to get passed as a paid regular at the store than it was the fact that I was on a sitcom in California.
01:59:01.000
I was on a sitcom and I was like, acting sucks.
01:59:09.000
I mean, this is where Richard Pryor had started out and David Letterman was there and Kenison was there and all these hicks had worked there for a while.
01:59:18.000
So, I mean, not only had I worked there for free, for all those years where I was on Fear Factor, they put my name up on the marquee.
01:59:26.000
It would say, you know, Fear Factor's Joe Rogan.
01:59:33.000
I would get to fuck around and stay sharp, do a long set each Friday and Saturday night.
01:59:38.000
So when I would go on the road, I always had material.
01:59:40.000
I could still do specials and still do Fear Factor at the same time.
01:59:48.000
And as a matter of fact, even money that they owed me from years ago, I paid it back in the form of a tax-free donation.
01:59:53.000
And then I paid for the whole sound system in the place.
01:59:57.000
I put in a CD-R burner and a fucking DAT player and new microphones and new chords.
02:00:04.000
And then when this whole thing happened with Mencia, which they knew for the longest time what he was doing.
02:00:10.000
But they were making money off of it, so they turned a blind eye towards comedy.
02:00:13.000
And what I've always said was that if you're in the business, if you're an agent or if you're a manager or if you're a club owner, you're selling art.
02:00:23.000
And when you've got one person who's stealing the art of the people that you're selling and then selling it again, that's what he's doing.
02:00:34.000
And if you don't, if you say crazy shit like, well, you know, it's business and he's making a lot of money, well, then you clearly are not on the side of the art form that you actually make your living selling.
02:00:43.000
So when all this shit went down, I called Mitzi up to let her know that, you know, Brian made this crazy fucking video and it's about to go out and it's ugly.
02:00:52.000
We've had problems with him for years and we're going to put this video out.
02:01:11.000
That was the last word I ever spoke to her, okay?
02:01:16.000
Tommy calls me an hour later and tells me I'm banned.
02:01:20.000
I go, I just talked to Mitzi and hit this stuttering cocksucker.
02:01:31.000
To me, it was very clear that there was some situation where Mitzi was no longer making the decisions.
02:01:38.000
So there was some other people, whoever the fuck they are.
02:01:41.000
Tommy was at the mouthpiece of whoever the fuck was making the decision.
02:01:45.000
And clearly they had made a decision to go and have Mencia headline that weekend and make a big deal out of it.
02:01:51.000
It was like for him to try to save face and then have me banned.
02:02:00.000
And so that was years ago, and I've never come back.
02:02:04.000
Because after I left there, and then I started working out at the improv, I'm like, God, it's so friendly here.
02:02:14.000
It's like there's a cool bar area where everybody hangs out.
02:02:21.000
I just realized that there's comedy clubs out there that appreciate comics.
02:02:24.000
Those are the only people that you should hang out with.
02:02:31.000
I learned a lot about hecklers and dealing bullshit, and I learned a lot about...
02:02:34.000
I just learned a lot about the business from this whole thing that happened, from getting fucked over.
02:03:09.000
He talked to somebody else, whoever the fuck it was.
02:03:12.000
Whether it's Paulie or Peter or whoever the fuck is writing.
02:03:28.000
Talking about, you know, don't destroy the store.
02:03:34.000
And they would always say, like, everybody works for free.
02:03:39.000
Everybody doesn't put their name in the marquee and pump it up on MySpace and fill the place.
02:03:48.000
Six years ago, I call them, the La Jolla, I go, can I go up?
02:03:53.000
Because I'm going to go down and visit a friend.
02:03:57.000
I show up at the club and the manager goes, you can't go up.
02:04:05.000
They're from LA and they don't want to put you up.
02:04:16.000
Me and Freddy Soto, when they gutted the place, we hammered in nails and shit like that.
02:04:31.000
You know, man, that's a totally different situation, and I totally see your side of it.
02:04:37.000
And the girls, if they really wanted to do their show and then have you go on last, have you go on afterwards, you know?
02:04:56.000
And if they do mediocre, they know you're going to crush.
02:05:16.000
And his parents were still alive and they took him on a cruise, like a cruise to go to the Bahama.
02:05:25.000
And they told Fred one night, they go, Fred, we'll meet you down here at 8 for breakfast.
02:05:34.000
And he never showed up to breakfast and they opened up his room and he was dead.
02:05:49.000
I mean, look, I got no ill feelings for the store.
02:05:52.000
I think it's one of the most interesting clubs in the country, and I think I learned a lot doing stand-up there, but...
02:05:58.000
The whole point of the whole situation, the whole point of the whole Mencia altercation was supposedly to create a better environment to stop someone who was victimizing other comedians.
02:06:10.000
And when the club supports that, you can't support the club anymore.
02:06:14.000
If the club supports that, it wasn't a gray area.
02:06:21.000
So that decision, the decision they made was like the worst possible decision.
02:06:28.000
I mean, it just sucks the fact that, like, you know, like, Bill Burr will show up, and if Mencia's there, he won't go up.
02:06:33.000
Those little things, you know what I mean, that fuck up the...
02:07:26.000
And as a friend, you know, you watch it and it's just...
02:07:28.000
I always try to play Call of Duty with him on Xbox because I feel bad.
02:07:39.000
Listen, man, the positive aspects of working at the store were so true.
02:07:45.000
I think you should just do it one night or something.
02:07:53.000
Look, there was a long time where I was at the store where the store felt like it did not have the environment that I envisioned.
02:07:59.000
I always envisioned it being, like I said, comedy mecca.
02:08:02.000
I always envisioned all these great comics are going to perform there and there's this great environment.
02:08:06.000
And then for a long time when I was there in the early 90s, it wasn't like that.
02:08:17.000
We're getting a lot more New York guys on the list.
02:08:20.000
So you have Bill Burr, Davidoff, all these New York guys that have moved here.
02:08:26.000
Yeah, and the lineups, like the other night, who was it?
02:08:36.000
From two years ago that you were there, Carlos never goes there.
02:08:42.000
Whoever's running the club is the same people running the club.
02:08:45.000
Tommy said some stupid shit to Brian just the other day when he went there, and he called me a fag.
02:08:52.000
That dude was always going to be what he is, you know?
02:09:01.000
The idea is that there's this mecca of comedy where everybody's hanging out, all this crazy people, like that back porch area, the back parking lot.
02:09:13.000
The greatest moments of my life have been back home.
02:09:24.000
There's always crazy people coming back there and hanging out with us.
02:09:33.000
Yeah, the guy with the cross that walks down Sunset with his fucking cross.
02:09:37.000
And there was a guy that looked like Colonel Sanders.
02:09:41.000
And Jesus and him together are always the best combo.
02:09:52.000
But the idea of what the comedy story is, you bring that everywhere with you, man.
02:09:59.000
Sal's Comedy Hole is this new place that opened up on Melrose.
02:10:03.000
He had a place on La Brea for a while, but they had a liquor license issue, and now he reopened a new place.
02:10:16.000
He's always trying to feed you, give you drinks.
02:10:24.000
And because of that, comics are flocking to this place.
02:10:30.000
Tonight, his show will have at least 50, 60 comics wanting to go up at their 8 o'clock show tonight.
02:10:50.000
When you go to the improv and you go to places like Sal's, you realize, okay, well, there's places that don't have this crazy attitude that the place is the star.
02:10:59.000
You know, like Tommy always had this attitude that the store is the star.
02:11:02.000
And so did, remember, who's the guy who used to run it?
02:11:07.000
Yeah, and Duncan was the, people don't realize this, Duncan Trussell, our My boy was the talent manager for the store for the longest time.
02:11:15.000
And he had to quit because he didn't want to be on Pauly Shore's reality show.
02:11:21.000
What the improv doesn't have, though, that the store has is that Wild West vibe.
02:11:32.000
So you can't run across the place in my underwear if I want to.
02:11:36.000
But at the store, there's always still that vibe of like anything can happen.
02:11:45.000
When you bring Joey Diaz, that vibe comes with us on the road.
02:11:48.000
So what I'm doing this weekend, by the way, Mandalay Bay Theater, it's almost sold out.
02:11:52.000
So if you're going to get tickets, jump on that shit now.
02:11:59.000
It's Friday night, February 4th, which is the night before the UFC. And it's at Mandalay Bay, which is where the UFC is.
02:12:08.000
If you want tickets, you've got to jump on it now.
02:12:14.000
And Bobby Lee is going to be at the Houston Improv.
02:12:27.000
Let's find out exactly so people don't get crazy.
02:12:31.000
I came to see your show and you were not there, Bobby Lee!
02:12:52.000
Valentine's Day in Houston, which by the way, I love Houston.
02:13:00.000
The problem was, I don't want to do any shows where people have to stand up.
02:13:05.000
And I was doing the House of Blues, and the House of Blues, they wanted, I think it's like 600 people standing and 600 people seated.
02:13:16.000
And the problem, it becomes the bar just becomes filled with people talking.
02:13:19.000
There's way too many people there, and everyone's drunk, and no one knows how to fucking whisper, and it becomes chaos.
02:13:24.000
And so I went to see one of Doug Stanhope's shows where I had a stand, and I was like, no more standing.
02:13:35.000
So I had a bunch of deals where I was supposed to do the Houston area, but every time we ran into this fucking standing roadblock at theaters, we ran into it.
02:13:52.000
Friday night, February 4th, Mandalay Bay Theater, me, Joey Diaz, and Ari Shafir.
02:13:57.000
The next weekend, the 11th, 12th, and the 13th, and Valentine's Day, Bobby Lee will be at the Houston Improv.
02:14:12.000
And then the weekend after that, I'm at the Brea Improv.
02:14:18.000
And we're going to get Brian really high and make him go on stage every night so big that he forgets his material.
02:14:29.000
Seven minutes, you probably fucking killed for four.
02:14:41.000
So that's the 18th, 19th, and 20th is the Brea Improv of February.
02:14:48.000
You can go to JoeRogan.net and read all this shit yourself, bitches.
02:15:00.000
We're figuring out who the fuck's going to do it.
02:15:04.000
And then Thursday night, Ari has a show that I'm going to be on as well at the Improv.
02:15:11.000
Bobby Lee, thank you very much for coming on the podcast.
02:15:23.000
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