The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #807 - Gino & AJ, from Speedweed

00:00:00.000 Some cool boss guy.

00:00:03.000 Gino and AJ from L.A. Speedweed, you are live!

00:00:08.000 Are you tweeting?

00:00:09.000 I was retweeting your tweet.

00:00:12.000 Joe just recorded a jingle for us, so...

00:00:14.000 Yeah, that's your jingle.

00:00:15.000 Let's pull that.

00:00:17.000 That should be your new ringtone.

00:00:19.000 First of all, Gino's been my friend for a long time, and he's basically...

00:00:24.000 He's the guy that turned me on to this Whole LA marijuana delivery scene that is going on in LA which was amazing for comedians and for anybody who has a medical card where you could just call this cool dude and he would tell you what the great stuff is and you hang out with him and talk with him and you could buy it and it was all totally legal and above board.

00:00:47.000 It was all good.

00:00:48.000 But somewhere along the line, some fuckery ran afoot, and they came up with some new political rules that keep marijuana delivery services from operating.

00:01:01.000 Explain it, because essentially the way they've set it up is you would have to have had a license to operate in each one of the houses that you're delivering to.

00:01:08.000 Is that how it works?

00:01:11.000 It used to be called the Wild West, you know, out here in California for medical marijuana.

00:01:18.000 And it very much was until they wanted to regulate it.

00:01:22.000 And most of the people wanted it regulated because they wanted marijuana.

00:01:27.000 So, yes, let's have marijuana.

00:01:29.000 Yes, let's regulate it. 0.99

00:01:31.000 No, but hold on.

00:01:32.000 People think that marijuana is legal in California, but it is not.

00:01:36.000 Absolutely not.

00:01:36.000 What we have is protection from prosecution.

00:01:38.000 That's what we have.

00:01:39.000 Which means that law enforcement can knock your door down, take your stuff, take your weed, take your cash, take whatever you got there, and you can show them all the papers in the world and they're like, that's great, that's cool, we're glad you're legal.

00:01:51.000 Bring it to the judge and you'll be good to go.

00:01:53.000 And you'll get your stuff back in a year and you guys will be fine.

00:01:55.000 And that's happened to us.

00:01:57.000 But do you get your stuff back?

00:01:59.000 Because I've heard there's a lot of people that have never gotten their stuff back.

00:02:02.000 We always have.

00:02:03.000 So how long have they kept your stuff for?

00:02:06.000 Over a year.

00:02:07.000 So if you have weed over a year, they're not taking care of it.

00:02:11.000 It's done.

00:02:13.000 So that weed's useless. 0.93

00:02:14.000 It's useless.

00:02:14.000 So you lose how much money in a bus like that?

00:02:19.000 Well, you don't have to say.

00:02:19.000 It depends on that.

00:02:20.000 A substantial amount of money.

00:02:21.000 A substantial amount of money.

00:02:22.000 Of course.

00:02:23.000 And so they give you the cash back?

00:02:27.000 They actually cut you a check.

00:02:29.000 They cut you a check for the cash.

00:02:31.000 From the district attorney's office.

00:02:33.000 I have one hanging on AJ's wall in his office of them returning a few thousand dollars to us.

00:02:41.000 Because, again, when there was any sort of trouble, it was, alright, you have to go see a judge.

00:02:48.000 You go see the judge and the judge looks at the paperwork.

00:02:50.000 And in our first case, the judge said...

00:02:54.000 We've never seen a more compliant company in California dismissed without prejudice.

00:03:00.000 And our lawyer asked, instead of dismissing without prejudice, we actually would like that entered in to the record that you're calling LA Speedway the most compliant marijuana company you've ever dealt with.

00:03:12.000 So we had it entered into the...

00:03:15.000 It didn't translate, though.

00:03:17.000 I have a lawsuit on my desk that is...

00:03:19.000 I'm holding my hands 18 inches apart, by the way.

00:03:21.000 That is that high, this lawsuit from the city.

00:03:24.000 It's just super unfortunate.

00:03:26.000 Because it's obviously not the will of the people.

00:03:28.000 You know, whenever something's not the will of the people...

00:03:30.000 It's clear by all the gentlemen in this room...

00:03:33.000 We're all grown adults, and we all enjoy marijuana.

00:03:36.000 We all have responsible lives.

00:03:38.000 We all do stuff.

00:03:40.000 We all get things done, and we all enjoy it.

00:03:42.000 And we're taxpayers.

00:03:44.000 We're normal people.

00:03:45.000 We're not freaks.

00:03:46.000 We're not like ne'er-do-wells or someone who's clinging off the system and fucking up social systems that we've set up for people that are trying to get by in this world.

00:04:00.000 No.

00:04:01.000 No, we're just guys.

00:04:03.000 Let's talk about what you said just before, the will of the people.

00:04:07.000 When they voted on this Proposition D, which is a zoning law...

00:04:14.000 No, hold on.

00:04:14.000 Have any of you guys ever heard of Zoning Ordinance Measure D? Has anyone heard of that?

00:04:19.000 No.

00:04:20.000 Of course not.

00:04:21.000 Of course not.

00:04:21.000 Has anyone heard of it?

00:04:22.000 But hold on.

00:04:23.000 We haven't heard of any zoning.

00:04:25.000 Nobody does.

00:04:26.000 That's the thing is nobody pays attention to zoning laws.

00:04:29.000 So now Speedweed and services like ours that are doing things the right way are closed in the city.

00:04:35.000 Because of a zoning ordinance that was passed because all these pot shops are opening up.

00:04:39.000 So they said they're opening near schools and churches.

00:04:42.000 Got to protect the children.

00:04:43.000 Isn't it hilarious that opening them near churches is an issue?

00:04:47.000 It should be.

00:04:48.000 It's politics.

00:04:49.000 Separation, church and state.

00:04:50.000 It's politics.

00:04:51.000 Well, they say that during the old days of the Catholic Church, when they would walk down the aisle with that incense thing, they would be burning marijuana.

00:04:59.000 That's what they would be burning.

00:05:01.000 And they'd be wafting it through the room as they walked by.

00:05:04.000 You know those things that they carry around?

00:05:07.000 Those things had weed in them. 1.00

00:05:08.000 There's a pamphlet online about marijuana in the Bible.

00:05:11.000 That might not be true, by the way.

00:05:12.000 It seems like it's not true.

00:05:13.000 Let's just run with it.

00:05:14.000 Google it, Jamie.

00:05:16.000 Genesis 147. There was weed in there.

00:05:19.000 That's probably one of them Todd McCormick quotes.

00:05:21.000 He probably told me that.

00:05:22.000 I'm like, oh, that's a fact for sure.

00:05:23.000 I'm not even going to bother looking that up.

00:05:25.000 The wine is acid.

00:05:26.000 Sounds so good.

00:05:27.000 But certainly cannabis has been part of the human record since the beginning.

00:05:32.000 It's a bizarre time we live in, and it's a long, complicated explanation.

00:05:39.000 If someone who's never heard it before is like, well, how did it get illegal?

00:05:44.000 Most of it got illegal because of William Randolph Hearst.

00:05:47.000 Yes!

00:05:47.000 Which is bananas.

00:05:49.000 That here we are in 2016 and this fucking crazy man from the 1930s who was running all these newspapers, running everything. 0.99

00:05:59.000 And the man that Citizen Kane's based on, the Orson Welles movie, he was just a maniac. 0.98

00:06:04.000 And he decided to get marijuana, to make it illegal so that hemp would be illegal.

00:06:10.000 Correct.

00:06:10.000 Because he's on the newspapers, he's on the temper industry.

00:06:15.000 But it is insane.

00:06:17.000 That the propaganda that this guy created in the 1930s, even though we recognize it, everyone knows it, it's a fact, you can watch it, you can watch Reefer Madness, you can see what's written down, what they were attempting to do to make it illegal, the fact that it still sticks in 2016. And you couldn't smoke that stuff that they,

00:06:35.000 that, the hemp, anyway.

00:06:36.000 No, no.

00:06:37.000 Well, hemp is not psychoactive.

00:06:39.000 No!

00:06:39.000 Well, that is the craziest part.

00:06:40.000 Like, we, at Onnit, we sell hemp, but we have to buy it from Canada.

00:06:45.000 Yes.

00:06:45.000 Buy it from Canada and bring it down to the United States, because even though it's legal and it's not psychoactive, these farmers, they can't grow it.

00:06:52.000 They're starting to try to change those laws, but as far as I know, I mean, I don't know of any large-scale hemp-growing operations here in the United States yet.

00:07:00.000 Not yet.

00:07:00.000 It's too dangerous.

00:07:01.000 But China's just dedicated millions of acres to hemp.

00:07:04.000 You have to worry about your own government when you're growing a plant that you make clothes out of.

00:07:10.000 You make paper.

00:07:11.000 That's all they're doing with it.

00:07:12.000 Let's be really clear on that.

00:07:13.000 The hemp that they're growing, you can't get high off of it.

00:07:17.000 It's totally non-psychoactive, and yet, it's federally illegal. 0.99

00:07:21.000 There's a fucking plant that makes the best clothes. 0.99

00:07:24.000 It makes way stronger fabric, way stronger paper. 1.00

00:07:28.000 You can eat it.

00:07:29.000 It has all the essential amino acids.

00:07:30.000 It's like a full, complete amino acid profile.

00:07:33.000 It's one of the very few plants that's like that.

00:07:35.000 You can make biofuel of it.

00:07:37.000 You can make... 0.99

00:07:37.000 It's fucking crazy! 0.99

00:07:38.000 Livestock food. 0.99

00:07:39.000 You look at old Ironsides, the USS Constitution, the flag and the sails are made of hemp, and those are the original things from hundreds of years ago. 0.99

00:07:47.000 It's one of the best things that nature's ever created, this fucking fiber. 0.97

00:07:52.000 It has this incredibly powerful fiber. 1.00

00:07:56.000 Who the fuck was it? 0.99

00:07:57.000 One of my friends has an actual hemp stalk. 1.00

00:08:00.000 And I was over his house and I picked it up and I was like, whoa, this is like a fucking alien plant. 0.99

00:08:05.000 Right. 0.98

00:08:06.000 Because it's hard as like a hardwood.

00:08:08.000 Tensile strength stronger than steel when it's wound properly.

00:08:12.000 Yeah.

00:08:12.000 So it feels hard like oak, but it's light like balsa wood.

00:08:15.000 Yeah.

00:08:15.000 It's really weird.

00:08:17.000 You can make spaceships out of the shit it feels like. 0.98

00:08:19.000 It's light and strong. 0.98

00:08:20.000 And we're not using it because it's illegal. 0.99

00:08:22.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.99

00:08:24.000 Parachutes used to be made out of it. 0.99

00:08:26.000 I know George Bush Sr. jumped out of a plane with a hemp parachute.

00:08:33.000 All canvases.

00:08:35.000 All canvases.

00:08:36.000 The Mona Lisa was painted on cannabis.

00:08:38.000 It was made on hemp.

00:08:40.000 Our founding fathers had hemp fields in their farms because hemp cleans the fallow fields after wheat fucks up your fields and corn fucks up your fields.

00:08:48.000 Hemp goes in there, cleans it all out.

00:08:50.000 It's such an identifier of how goofy people are here in 2016 that that's an issue.

00:08:57.000 That we're dealing with this weird hemp thing because it's related to marijuana?

00:09:03.000 Does anyone hear this though?

00:09:05.000 I mean, with Trump and Hillary and Bernie, do people really care about William Hurst?

00:09:10.000 They do.

00:09:10.000 They don't know.

00:09:11.000 Most people don't know.

00:09:12.000 Most people have no idea.

00:09:14.000 Most people think there's some health-related risks and that's the reason why it was made illegal.

00:09:19.000 That's why it's such a frustrating time for us because we start talking about zoning ordinance D and people are like, oh, I'm so bored.

00:09:26.000 Can't we just get baked?

00:09:27.000 What do you mean you're out of business?

00:09:28.000 Well, don't you feel like...

00:09:29.000 How long have you guys been in the business?

00:09:31.000 About six years.

00:09:33.000 Six years, yeah.

00:09:34.000 How much has changed in six years?

00:09:35.000 So much.

00:09:36.000 Since I've had a card, I got my card in...

00:09:42.000 It was the 90s, I believe.

00:09:44.000 In the 90s?

00:09:45.000 Yeah.

00:09:45.000 So there was just one state.

00:09:47.000 Yeah.

00:09:47.000 It was here.

00:09:48.000 Yeah.

00:09:48.000 When we got in the business, there was about five states that were legal.

00:09:51.000 Now there's 24 when Florida's going to go.

00:09:54.000 That's going to be 25 plus D.C. It's half the country.

00:09:58.000 That's crazy.

00:09:59.000 And CBD is, if you include CBD, there's only like seven or eight states that are not participating.

00:10:04.000 Like, yeah, seven or eight states.

00:10:06.000 I guess, now that I think about it, I guess it was more like 2001. It's still way early.

00:10:11.000 But my point was going to be that it's way more relaxed now.

00:10:14.000 It's way more prevalent.

00:10:15.000 I used to have to go to Inglewood.

00:10:17.000 I go to Inglewood Wellness Center.

00:10:19.000 It was in the hood, son.

00:10:22.000 One of the gentlemen that worked there got shot, and that's when I stopped going to that place.

00:10:25.000 But that's how it was when we started.

00:10:27.000 Right.

00:10:28.000 When we started, A.J. wasn't much of a smoker when I moved out here to California.

00:10:34.000 It's condescending.

00:10:35.000 Now you're being condescending. 0.99

00:10:36.000 Are you guys fucking with each other right here? 0.99

00:10:39.000 So, you know, we were working in technology for the government before we started Speedweed together. 1.00

00:10:48.000 You guys are CIA. I knew it.

00:10:50.000 I knew it.

00:10:51.000 You've infiltrated me.

00:10:52.000 You know, don't put me in Sturgill Simpson's category.

00:10:55.000 LAUGHTER Let me tell you this story real quick.

00:10:59.000 Sturgill Simpson was on stage and some dude yells out in the audience, Sturgill, please tell me you're not really a CIA assassin.

00:11:06.000 And he just shrugged and went on to the next song. 0.97

00:11:12.000 That fucking Wheeler Walker Jr., how funny is that dude? 0.99

00:11:16.000 Oh my god, he's hilarious. 0.99

00:11:18.000 So AJ was...

00:11:20.000 We were working in a stressful environment, working for Congress at the time, and he was actually...

00:11:28.000 Drinking to medicate himself as we were, you know, working, doing technology coding and things like that.

00:11:34.000 And he started playing with neurotropics to say, you know what, I'm not going to drink anymore.

00:11:40.000 And I said, instead of neurotropics, why don't you try cannabis?

00:11:44.000 I was that guy who had the shelves of modafinil and neuropeptin and L-theanine, all these different crazy things that you can get on or off the market.

00:11:54.000 And Gino's like, just smoke this. 0.99

00:11:55.000 Just put all that shit away. 0.99

00:11:57.000 Put the booze away and just smoke this. 0.99

00:11:58.000 I'm like, no, it's gonna make me freak out.

00:12:00.000 Well, one thing that nootropics do help, it helps me maintain memory while under the influence.

00:12:07.000 Because it's one of the most slippery things about being under the influence of pot is the memory.

00:12:12.000 The memory gets real slippery.

00:12:14.000 Sure.

00:12:15.000 I gave him alpha brain also when we first started.

00:12:19.000 That'll help.

00:12:20.000 Some people say that nicotine actually helps in some strange way.

00:12:24.000 I use nicotine every day.

00:12:25.000 I've never smoked.

00:12:28.000 He started chewing the nicotine gum a few years ago and I said, I can't believe it.

00:12:33.000 I love it.

00:12:34.000 Yeah, well, this is what it is.

00:12:35.000 Like, nicotine itself apparently has similar effects to a lot of nootropics.

00:12:41.000 And that it does something to stimulate your brain function. 1.00

00:12:45.000 But smoking is fucking horrible for you. 0.98

00:12:48.000 So, like, it's not really the getting of the nicotine, which is so confusing because... 0.99

00:12:55.000 Automatically assume nicotine equals lung cancer.

00:12:58.000 Everybody dies.

00:12:59.000 That's so sad.

00:13:00.000 Why do they do it?

00:13:01.000 And then you, why are you doing nicotine?

00:13:02.000 And you go, no, no, no. 0.86

00:13:03.000 It's the smoking of these chemicals that's fucking up your lungs and it's giving you cancer. 0.74

00:13:07.000 It's irritating your lungs. 0.74

00:13:09.000 You know when people cough, it's harsh. 0.58

00:13:11.000 It fucks your lungs up, you get cancer, you die.

00:13:12.000 That's what's going on. 0.54

00:13:13.000 It's not the nicotine's fault.

00:13:15.000 No, it's not.

00:13:16.000 Yeah.

00:13:16.000 So nicotine itself is some sort of a very strange compound that sort of like stimulates your mind a little bit.

00:13:22.000 Yeah, I think it's the drug that just knows.

00:13:24.000 Like, if you're wired, it relaxes you.

00:13:26.000 If you're a little bit cloudy-headed, it gives you a boost of energy.

00:13:29.000 Dude, it sounds like it's in your veins.

00:13:31.000 That's your friend.

00:13:32.000 It's like the drug who knows, man.

00:13:34.000 The drug knows.

00:13:35.000 The drug knows.

00:13:36.000 A boy has no name. 0.95

00:13:37.000 The gum is so gross.

00:13:39.000 I love it. 0.89

00:13:40.000 You're deep in, man.

00:13:41.000 Look at you.

00:13:42.000 The drug that knows.

00:13:43.000 That's hilarious.

00:13:43.000 The four milligram coated fruit flavor from Target.

00:13:46.000 Oh, it's horrible.

00:13:47.000 So me as a brother, I wanted to do what I could to try and help...

00:13:54.000 It didn't really need to be helped that much, but I said, look, you should just try marijuana.

00:14:01.000 It's what regulates my mood and has since I've been smoking almost daily since 15 years old.

00:14:11.000 So I said, let's go to the doctor.

00:14:14.000 And he didn't want to go to the doctor with me.

00:14:16.000 No, because this is back in the early days when everything was sketchy.

00:14:20.000 So we go to this office building that is up in San Fernando.

00:14:23.000 And there's barbed wire around the building.

00:14:25.000 We go in this sketchy office building.

00:14:27.000 And I'm freaking out the whole time.

00:14:29.000 Our dad's a cop.

00:14:30.000 We've got clearance from the government.

00:14:32.000 This is crazy.

00:14:33.000 And Gino's just like, chill.

00:14:34.000 We're fine.

00:14:35.000 Chew your nicotine.

00:14:36.000 Let's go.

00:14:36.000 And we go into this office, this doctor's office.

00:14:39.000 It's clearly not a doctor's office.

00:14:40.000 And they say, you know, the doctor will see you both now.

00:14:44.000 And now I'm freaking out thinking like what I have to like get undressed in front of my brother and sit on the paper with this doctor.

00:14:50.000 I don't know what I'm doing.

00:14:52.000 And we just go into a room and there's a table and he sits across from us and he asked me first, unfortunately, why do you need weed?

00:14:59.000 And I said, you know, and I'm staring at him.

00:15:01.000 My brother's looking at me, and I can feel him going, don't fuck this up. 0.97

00:15:04.000 Like, don't fuck this up.

00:15:05.000 So he's like, oh, you have stress?

00:15:06.000 I said, yes.

00:15:07.000 You have trouble sleep?

00:15:08.000 I said, yes.

00:15:09.000 He says, okay, you have weed.

00:15:10.000 And he called it weed.

00:15:11.000 He called it weed.

00:15:12.000 And then he goes to my brother, why do you need weed?

00:15:14.000 And my brother goes, I have stress and trouble sleep.

00:15:16.000 He's like, okay, you have weed.

00:15:17.000 And we got these papers, and it felt so sketchy.

00:15:21.000 But we went to a dispensary that afternoon, and it was like...

00:15:24.000 Yeah, those early people that started open dispensaries like the Inglewood Wellness Center, those people were like the pioneers in the Wild Wild West.

00:15:32.000 That is a gangster move, man.

00:15:34.000 Well, it took almost a criminal element to be in business at that point, and that's why we're going back to these laws that say you had to be in business before 2007 in order to even be considered in these few that are allowed.

00:15:50.000 Well, let's explain the whole zoning thing.

00:15:52.000 So the issue is delivery, right?

00:15:54.000 That's what the issue is.

00:15:55.000 So Prop D is what governs all of LA's marijuana laws.

00:16:00.000 That's a zoning law.

00:16:02.000 So there's 135 shops that are allowed.

00:16:05.000 Those are the ones that have been operating since 2007. They're called pre-ICO's.

00:16:09.000 Any other shop you go to is illegal.

00:16:12.000 Any delivery service you use in the city of LA is illegal, according to Proposition D, which we are fighting in court, by the way.

00:16:19.000 We are fighting that.

00:16:20.000 And that law just came out in 2012. 2013, 2014. We had been in business for years.

00:16:32.000 We had already been working with the state government for years on the process of legalization.

00:16:37.000 We advised the state assembly.

00:16:39.000 We're the only retail company on the Board of Equalization stakeholder panel.

00:16:43.000 I know I'm in the weeds right now.

00:16:45.000 But, like, we are the company that, instead of suing us, you should have just said, hey guys, what's a good way to do this?

00:16:51.000 You know, that's important to talk about, that, you know, the Board of Equalization is kind of like the IRS for the state.

00:16:57.000 If you're a commercial business, you pay your taxes to the Board of Equalization.

00:17:01.000 Well, the Board of Equalization chose our company as the one retail company that they wanted to present to the legislature, to the people, we presented with the California State Troopers,

00:17:18.000 the Highway Patrol, the Teamsters, the insurance company, and an app company, and us.

00:17:23.000 Can I just say the Board of Equalization?

00:17:25.000 Just that name?

00:17:27.000 It sounds like some sort of an overseer in a Woody Allen movie about the future.

00:17:31.000 They kind of are.

00:17:32.000 The Board of Equalization? 0.99

00:17:34.000 Like, that's some, like, fucking utopian nightmare movie. 1.00

00:17:37.000 Fear them. 1.00

00:17:37.000 Right? 1.00

00:17:38.000 Fear them.

00:17:39.000 How are you?

00:17:41.000 Well, you know, just try to be a good neighbor. 0.99

00:17:43.000 Not good enough, white man!

00:17:45.000 See, any business owner hears board of equalization and they're freaking out. 0.95

00:17:49.000 That's a scary term.

00:17:50.000 They're laughing, but they're also afraid.

00:17:52.000 What does equalization mean?

00:17:54.000 Is that a real word?

00:17:55.000 That seems like they made that word up. 0.92

00:17:57.000 Now that I think of it, that's kind of fucked up that it's called equalization.

00:18:01.000 Like, we're going to take the business's money and give it to y'all here so we can all get equalized.

00:18:05.000 Yeah.

00:18:06.000 That doesn't work.

00:18:09.000 No, it doesn't.

00:18:09.000 Some people are lazy.

00:18:11.000 Yeah, it doesn't work.

00:18:12.000 This has got to be a way, though, they think that a universal basic income, that giving people $13,000, though, like giving everybody, like some, Michael Shermer actually just tweeted this, who's that really intelligent skeptic guy, and they think giving people $13,000 a year,

00:18:29.000 like giving it to everybody, Would reduce crime.

00:18:33.000 Would reduce poverty.

00:18:35.000 It would give people chances to pursue other things if they had universal basic income.

00:18:40.000 It's a really strange concept because it's one of those things that everybody has an e-jerk reaction to.

00:18:44.000 I definitely did.

00:18:45.000 I heard it and I was like, what?

00:18:46.000 Get out of here.

00:18:47.000 You can't just give people money.

00:18:48.000 People are too lazy.

00:18:49.000 But the more I read about it and the more I see people who...

00:18:55.000 People are quite a bit more educated than me on this subject.

00:18:57.000 They think that it's possible that doing something like that would actually cost less money in the long run because it would start a cascade of positive events that giving people enough money to get by on.

00:19:10.000 That that would start like A series of events in a lot of these people's lives where issues would be taken care of that are insurmountable otherwise.

00:19:19.000 And it'll start some momentum in a positive way and that you're going to deal with less crime and you're going to deal with less violence.

00:19:26.000 So you're going to deal with less need to deal with the problems and the financial repercussions of crime and violence.

00:19:33.000 It'll overall cost less money to the community.

00:19:36.000 I'm skeptical though.

00:19:37.000 My knee-jerk Yeah, of course.

00:19:39.000 Mine did, too.

00:19:40.000 And I was first talking about it with my friend Eddie Wong from Vice, from that Vice show. 0.99

00:19:47.000 What's his fucking show called again? 0.97

00:19:49.000 Wong's World or something? 1.00

00:19:50.000 Wong's World. 0.95

00:19:51.000 Is that what it is?

00:19:51.000 Yeah.

00:19:53.000 But he brought it up, and I was like, what? 0.95

00:19:54.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.95

00:19:55.000 And then when I realized that there were a lot of people bringing this up, I said, okay, well, let me put my knee down. 0.99

00:20:03.000 Okay.

00:20:04.000 I'm a knee-jerk.

00:20:06.000 Let me just open-mindedly look at this.

00:20:08.000 And I'm like, okay.

00:20:09.000 I'm looking at the point, like, if you give people money, they're just going to be lazy, and they're never going to get anything done, and you're going to deal with a bunch of lazy people.

00:20:18.000 The lotto effect.

00:20:19.000 Right.

00:20:19.000 Like, the worst fears that people have when they worry about welfare.

00:20:23.000 That you create a welfare environment where people get accustomed to that, and they have no ambition, and nothing ever gets done.

00:20:28.000 It's almost a way to poison people's ambition, is to give them money.

00:20:32.000 Switzerland just...

00:20:34.000 Had this thing where they were going to give everybody, I think it was like $2,500 a month, just free income.

00:20:41.000 And then to hope that that would pay for everyone to be just a little bump.

00:20:48.000 So they would keep their jobs and stuff like that, and their shitty jobs would feel a little bit better. 0.55

00:20:52.000 But then they denied it. 0.88

00:20:55.000 It didn't pass.

00:20:55.000 Yeah, it didn't pass.

00:20:56.000 But that would be interesting, everybody getting free income.

00:20:59.000 Well, yeah, that's the idea behind this.

00:21:02.000 And Switzerland is like a very inclusive country where everyone serves in the military and has to participate. 0.99

00:21:08.000 That would be a good place to try something like this, because America's obviously a little bit more loosey-goosey with that kind of shit. 0.99

00:21:14.000 We are. 0.99

00:21:15.000 We have to spread that.

00:21:16.000 Dollar bills, y'all.

00:21:18.000 Right.

00:21:18.000 It's also, how big is Switzerland?

00:21:20.000 Like, how many people live there?

00:21:22.000 I mean, that would be like giving universal basic income to LA. Right.

00:21:26.000 You know, really.

00:21:27.000 I mean, those are the arguments for, like, universal healthcare and all that.

00:21:31.000 Well, it works in Finland.

00:21:32.000 Well, Finland is like the size of Long Island in Westchester County.

00:21:35.000 That's it.

00:21:35.000 Yeah.

00:21:36.000 It's tiny.

00:21:37.000 I mean, just think about, like, the stuff that flies in Canada.

00:21:40.000 Right.

00:21:41.000 You know, Canada is a totally different country. 0.99

00:21:43.000 They're connected to us, but they're fucking completely different. 0.98

00:21:47.000 And they're right there. 0.86

00:21:48.000 So if anybody says it works for Canada, like, there's only 30 million of them.

00:21:51.000 That's right. 0.99

00:21:52.000 They have a huge fucking country, and there's only 30 million people. 1.00

00:21:56.000 And they're just nicer. 1.00

00:21:57.000 They are.

00:21:58.000 They're just nicer.

00:21:59.000 If there's a Canadian in the room, you know it immediately. 1.00

00:22:02.000 They're like some of the nicest fucking human beings on the planet. 0.99

00:22:05.000 It's the one country that I wouldn't think twice. 0.99

00:22:07.000 I wouldn't think twice about moving to Canada.

00:22:09.000 Well, they're ahead of the curve on cannabis, for sure.

00:22:11.000 Oh, yeah.

00:22:11.000 Yeah.

00:22:12.000 Delivery is the only option in Canada, and it's government-sanctioned.

00:22:16.000 Yeah, the government is essentially this new guy that has gotten in.

00:22:20.000 What's the new guy's name?

00:22:22.000 The young guy.

00:22:23.000 Yeah, handsome fella.

00:22:24.000 Trudeau.

00:22:25.000 Trudeau.

00:22:25.000 Thank you.

00:22:26.000 I gotta think of the guy from Doonesbury.

00:22:28.000 That's how I do it, too.

00:22:29.000 That's how I do it, too.

00:22:30.000 The government's also behind their alcohol sales, also, in Canada.

00:22:34.000 Like, you can't buy liquor unless it's through the government.

00:22:36.000 Whoa.

00:22:37.000 I don't know how I feel about that. 0.75

00:22:39.000 The government's a drug dealer.

00:22:40.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:22:41.000 In Canada.

00:22:42.000 In Canada.

00:22:43.000 Yeah, I'm very libertarian, so I don't like the government involved wherever possible.

00:22:49.000 Yeah.

00:22:50.000 They've had some interesting rulings about comedy up there, too.

00:22:53.000 There was one guy that got heckled by some women in a nightclub in Vancouver, and apparently they were really drunk, and things happen at comedy clubs.

00:23:04.000 People get crazy.

00:23:05.000 They yell things out.

00:23:06.000 You're serving people drinks.

00:23:07.000 They're going to get crazy.

00:23:08.000 They're going to yell things out. 0.98

00:23:08.000 So he was yelling things at them, and he said a bunch of rude stuff about them being lesbians, a bunch of homophobic stuff. 0.98

00:23:15.000 And they sued him.

00:23:17.000 And they won.

00:23:18.000 $15,000.

00:23:19.000 They won $15,000.

00:23:21.000 You know what?

00:23:22.000 The problem with that is, man, once people start hurling insults at each other, like the women hurled insults at the comedian, the comedian hurled insults at the woman.

00:23:33.000 I don't know who started it off.

00:23:35.000 I think that would be imperative to find out who started it off.

00:23:38.000 But I know that the guy was on stage doing stand-up, so they're not supposed to be yelling.

00:23:45.000 This isn't a conversation.

00:23:46.000 If they're talking to him, I guarantee you, unless he's a crowd worker, I don't know if he's a guy that works crowds, but I guarantee you, most likely, he was getting interrupted.

00:23:57.000 So he was trying to do his act for all the people in the room, and he was getting interrupted, and then it got ugly.

00:24:02.000 And what's the answer?

00:24:03.000 To have people sign waivers before they walk in the comedy clubs? 0.84

00:24:06.000 It's silly.

00:24:10.000 There's that unspoken rule. 0.87

00:24:11.000 You can't have a monetary reward for someone that heckled.

00:24:16.000 You shouldn't be able to extract money from a comedy club like that.

00:24:20.000 Because you can go in trying to make it happen.

00:24:22.000 Exactly.

00:24:23.000 Well, look, you go to a baseball game, you get hit with a foul ball, you die. 0.99

00:24:26.000 You can't sue anybody because it's kind of a given that dangerous shit is flying around, balls are fast and hard. 1.00

00:24:32.000 Yo, fuck baseball. 1.00

00:24:33.000 I didn't know that could happen. 1.00

00:24:35.000 And golf.

00:24:36.000 So you go to a comedy club. 1.00

00:24:37.000 Oh my god, fuck golf. 1.00

00:24:38.000 Comedy Club, first rule is you're in the audience, shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:24:41.000 Second rule is let the comic say what he wants to say, and you might get offended. 0.99

00:24:45.000 That's the chance you take going in there.

00:24:47.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't want to stand up for the hecklers in any way.

00:24:50.000 But the only way that it could be different is if it's like Rick Ingram works the crowd constantly, you know, talks to people.

00:24:57.000 And if you have a thin skin, he's hilarious. 1.00

00:25:00.000 But if you have a thin skin, he'll fuck with you. 1.00

00:25:02.000 Right. 1.00

00:25:03.000 And maybe you didn't want that, so maybe you insult back.

00:25:06.000 Rick knows how to handle stuff like that, but I'm saying if he's one of those kind of comedians that works a crowd.

00:25:11.000 That's cool.

00:25:12.000 But it could have been that he insulted them first.

00:25:15.000 That's the only time that I could see where they would get pissed off.

00:25:19.000 But from what I understand, they had been heckling all night.

00:25:21.000 That was according to his version of the story, which it's not like people wait to heckle.

00:25:26.000 You know, someone who's a heckler, if there's four comedians in the night and the fourth guy goes up, that person's probably been heckling all night.

00:25:32.000 Right.

00:25:32.000 Now they're just drunker.

00:25:34.000 Exactly.

00:25:35.000 Does this scare you, though? 0.87

00:25:36.000 Like, doing material on Canada in the future, if it gets heated with, like, you and Heckler, are you gonna be like, shit, this is Canada, I better step back a little before I call her this and that, or him this and that?

00:25:46.000 Because, I mean, that kind of opens the door for this to be able to, like, oh, now we're allowed to sue if the comedian isn't mean to me.

00:25:54.000 Yeah, well, it's a dangerous precedent to set, and it does not make me comfortable, and hopefully I'll never have to deal with it when I'm up there.

00:26:01.000 What about Montreal, though?

00:26:03.000 I mean, the nightlife there makes New Orleans look lame, like Provo.

00:26:08.000 Montreal's a beautiful town, too.

00:26:11.000 I love performing there.

00:26:12.000 I find crowds in Canada to be really polite.

00:26:14.000 I mean, I've had some hecklers in Canada, but you're going to have hecklers when you get people drunk. 0.97

00:26:19.000 They're going to fuck it up. 0.74

00:26:21.000 The only thing you could do is probably like they're doing in South Carolina. 0.97

00:26:26.000 You have to boycott it to make some kind of change.

00:26:30.000 You know how they're boycotting South Carolina.

00:26:34.000 No one's going to boycott going to Vancouver because of this one ruling.

00:26:38.000 No.

00:26:38.000 The loophole is at the end of heckling.

00:26:40.000 You could just say, just kidding.

00:26:42.000 That doesn't work.

00:26:43.000 That doesn't work. 1.00

00:26:45.000 You're like a fucking dude that thinks, I know what I'll do when a plane crashes. 1.00

00:26:49.000 I'll just jump out at the last second, right before it hits the ground. 1.00

00:26:53.000 At the end, go, allegedly.

00:26:54.000 Yeah.

00:26:55.000 You don't understand physics.

00:26:58.000 Not that I do, but yeah.

00:27:02.000 I don't know, man.

00:27:03.000 It's not a good thing.

00:27:04.000 It's definitely not a good ruling.

00:27:05.000 The fact that he lost is very dangerous.

00:27:08.000 Well, there's another one going on right now.

00:27:10.000 Really?

00:27:11.000 Yeah, another guy got in trouble.

00:27:14.000 What is his name?

00:27:15.000 Chris something or another?

00:27:16.000 He's a comic from Montreal.

00:27:18.000 I think he speaks both languages.

00:27:19.000 I think he speaks French and English.

00:27:22.000 Chris Wade?

00:27:22.000 Is that his name?

00:27:24.000 You see, they don't have the pesky First Amendment to deal with, I guess.

00:27:27.000 Yeah, so this is what happened with this gentleman.

00:27:29.000 Find out this dude's name.

00:27:30.000 He's a dude who's getting sued because there was a sick kid and he made a joke about it.

00:27:35.000 That's right.

00:27:37.000 The joke was, it was something, I'm going to paraphrase it, I'm going to do a shitty job, but a lot of people donated money because this kid was dying, but then he lived for several years, and then the joke was, hey, he's not even sick, or something like that.

00:27:52.000 Mike Ward.

00:27:53.000 Mike Ward, that's it.

00:27:55.000 What is the joke?

00:27:56.000 Pull up the joke so we can analyze it.

00:28:04.000 What did he say?

00:28:05.000 Oh, no.

00:28:06.000 I'm afraid.

00:28:08.000 Does it say what the joke is?

00:28:11.000 Oh.

00:28:12.000 Oh, that kid's got a serious illness.

00:28:15.000 That's not a Snapchat filter.

00:28:21.000 We're looking for whatever the joke was.

00:28:24.000 Does it show the actual joke or no?

00:28:29.000 Maybe it might have been too offensive.

00:28:31.000 That's the thing is, in this room where it's like no rules, I'm afraid to even make a comment on that joke.

00:28:37.000 You can play the joke, I'm not gonna laugh, I'm not gonna smirk. 0.99

00:28:41.000 There's a bunch of comedians, you know, that really enjoy saying ridiculous shit that they don't really mean. 0.99

00:28:48.000 Because it's funny. 1.00

00:28:49.000 Because it's so shocking and ridiculous that it's funny. 0.86

00:28:52.000 There's a real danger in pretending that those guys are just speaking their absolute mind and giving affidavits in court, relaying incidents with cold, hard disengagement from the facts. 0.93

00:29:05.000 No. 0.99

00:29:05.000 These are comedians trying to say fucked up shit that they don't really mean. 0.99

00:29:09.000 And one of the reasons why it's funny is because you know they don't really mean it. 1.00

00:29:13.000 And they're saying it, and it's ridiculous. 0.85

00:29:15.000 Like Brian Holtzman. 0.90

00:29:17.000 Right?

00:29:17.000 He's been a great example.

00:29:19.000 My perfect example. 0.98

00:29:20.000 He's one of my favorite comedians ever and he's so ridiculous. 0.79

00:29:24.000 He says things that I don't want to give away any of his material, but he says things that he absolutely does not mean. 0.86

00:29:30.000 Right. 0.97

00:29:30.000 And he says it in this character and it's fucking hilarious. 0.97

00:29:34.000 But it's a landmine for anybody looking to point to a guy's performance on stage and try to pretend that somehow or another what he's doing is what he really means. 0.95

00:29:44.000 Right.

00:29:45.000 And if you see audience members getting angry at it or something, it's hard to imagine how they can't see that it's a character.

00:29:53.000 Yes.

00:29:54.000 You know?

00:29:54.000 It's not hate speech.

00:29:55.000 It's just a set.

00:29:56.000 I'm just doing material.

00:29:57.000 I maybe think that we're too close to it, honestly, because I think if someone didn't know, it might take them a few minutes. 0.90

00:30:04.000 Like, say if you're not a savvy comedy store regular type person or someone who enjoys comedy on a regular basis, you could go and watch Holtzman and go, what the fuck is going on here? 0.96

00:30:14.000 And that what the fuck is going on here might last 10 minutes before you catch on. 0.97

00:30:19.000 Because he'll let you in on it. 0.99

00:30:21.000 He'll smirk and joke in between his ramblings.

00:30:25.000 But I can see people not getting it.

00:30:29.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:30:30.000 He'll jerk and make the smirk in between things. 0.79

00:30:34.000 But the people who are already mad, they skip over that part. 0.96

00:30:37.000 Yes. 0.98

00:30:37.000 They just think he's a crazy person. 0.98

00:30:39.000 He never justifies, though?

00:30:40.000 Because, I mean, I think I've seen in your special, you say, a lot of this is just comedy, people.

00:30:46.000 But does he ever say?

00:30:47.000 No.

00:30:47.000 No?

00:30:48.000 No, no, no. 0.98

00:30:49.000 He did a 15-minute version of his gay son the other day.

00:30:52.000 I had never seen the full 15-minute version of it.

00:30:56.000 It was beautiful.

00:30:59.000 That could be a comedy special, just that 50-minute version. 0.73

00:31:02.000 Yeah, that is the best example of his bits, too, as far as the most fucked up thing you could imagine in joke form, but it's obviously not true. 0.92

00:31:13.000 It's so preposterous when he gets into it. 0.98

00:31:16.000 Oh my god.

00:31:17.000 It's funny.

00:31:18.000 And it could offend people, you know, and if it does, to live in a punitive society that he can't be an artist and perform his art because he has to worry about being sued.

00:31:29.000 He's already not making enough money to be sued for.

00:31:32.000 Exactly.

00:31:33.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:31:34.000 You have the right to be offended.

00:31:37.000 But people don't have to agree with your opinions on things.

00:31:41.000 So if you're going to see art, right, whether or not you think stand-up comedy is art, you're creating it, right?

00:31:48.000 You're creating that.

00:31:48.000 This guy is performing art.

00:31:51.000 You either like it or you don't like it.

00:31:52.000 And if you don't like it, you don't have the right to interrupt it.

00:31:56.000 You're supposed to leave.

00:31:57.000 Just leave.

00:31:57.000 That's what a polite person does.

00:31:59.000 I've seen some stuff that I didn't like and I left.

00:32:01.000 I've gotten to see a movie and I didn't like it and I left.

00:32:04.000 There's nothing wrong with that. 0.99

00:32:06.000 But to interrupt it for everybody else that's watching the movie, that's a piece of shit move. 1.00

00:32:11.000 So you're rewarding someone who did a piece of shit move. 0.99

00:32:15.000 It's like, it's not a good person, you know? 0.99

00:32:17.000 A good person doesn't heckle. 1.00

00:32:19.000 I mean, it's not that people who are hecklers are bad people, but they're drunk and fucked up, and that makes them a pain in the ass, you know? 0.99

00:32:27.000 But a lot of drunk, fucked up people are actually good people, right? 0.99

00:32:29.000 Sure. 0.99

00:32:30.000 When you reward that kind of behavior like this, like, you could say that you think that the comedian's not funny, you could say, don't ever go see him, you could cast judgment, you could do whatever the fuck you want, but to say he owes her $15,000, then it's like, okay, 0.98

00:32:45.000 who is the retard in charge here? 0.99

00:32:47.000 Who the fuck said yes to this? 1.00

00:32:49.000 Is this a judge? 1.00

00:32:51.000 Is this a group of people? 1.00

00:32:52.000 Can I sit down with you fucks and talk to you and try to figure out what the fuck is going on in your mind? 1.00

00:32:57.000 Right. 1.00

00:32:58.000 You're gonna charge him?

00:33:00.000 AJ, what's the punitive rule for the labeling that you have to put the cancer?

00:33:07.000 That's Proposition 65. You have to label all marijuana products with this warning label that says this product is known to contain chemicals that may cause cancer.

00:33:23.000 Is known to treat cancer, is known to, not proven to, but known to because we can't do the right research.

00:33:29.000 Every piece of cannabis has to have this label on it or else you can be fined for not having this label.

00:33:37.000 Again, punitive society.

00:33:38.000 And we got sued.

00:33:39.000 We got sued for not having the labeling on our packaging even though we did.

00:33:43.000 So they decided to put a lawsuit against...

00:33:47.000 800. They just went through weed maps and just sued everybody.

00:33:51.000 So they just did it just to try to scratch some money out of you.

00:33:55.000 Yeah!

00:33:55.000 They said, we'll make this go away, pay us a settlement, and we'll make it go away.

00:33:58.000 Wow!

00:33:58.000 And this is what this person has done to hundreds and hundreds of businesses.

00:34:03.000 That's how they make their living.

00:34:04.000 She sued us in 2014. It's like a patent troll.

00:34:08.000 That's crazy!

00:34:10.000 And all of our products have it on it.

00:34:12.000 So we were sued without even one burden of proof because when we got it, we're like, look, everything has it on it.

00:34:19.000 So did they just say the lawsuit's invalid?

00:34:22.000 No, no.

00:34:22.000 Or do you still have to go through with it?

00:34:23.000 No, we still got to go through it.

00:34:24.000 So did you go through with it?

00:34:25.000 We're filing right now. 0.75

00:34:27.000 And after it's filed, then I've got to file a complaint with the bar and do all this bullshit because anybody can sue anybody now. 0.51

00:34:34.000 And it really, really hurts businesses.

00:34:36.000 It hurts good people.

00:34:37.000 So how much did they want to settle?

00:34:39.000 About $20,000.

00:34:40.000 Oh my god! 1.00

00:34:42.000 They're fucking criminals! 1.00

00:34:43.000 They're just stealing money from people! 1.00

00:34:45.000 From dispensaries, because they think they have it.

00:34:47.000 But where they made their money is on...

00:34:50.000 I mean, every place has to have it.

00:34:52.000 If you walk into Target, you walk into Walmart, they all have to have this...

00:34:56.000 Because anything that has plastics in it or anything...

00:34:59.000 Oh, I see that sign everywhere now.

00:35:01.000 Once you get sued, you're looking at it everywhere.

00:35:04.000 You see it, and that's the law.

00:35:06.000 You've got to have it posted.

00:35:07.000 Just like you'll never hear the word lesbian in Vancouver again. 1.00

00:35:10.000 The glory days are done.

00:35:13.000 Is that what he yelled? 0.96

00:35:15.000 He just yelled out lesbian? 0.85

00:35:17.000 I don't know what he said.

00:35:18.000 I don't remember what he said, but I've heard worse.

00:35:23.000 It's too litigious of our society.

00:35:26.000 It's not even our society.

00:35:28.000 It's their society.

00:35:29.000 Bigger companies will just settle because it's easier to just settle.

00:35:32.000 But, you know, smaller companies...

00:35:36.000 I guess they think because marijuana, you just have so much money.

00:35:39.000 However, our tax burden is almost 70%.

00:35:41.000 There's no real money when you're doing things by the book.

00:35:46.000 They just passed another 15% sales tax on top of marijuana, y'all, in California.

00:35:51.000 It just got passed this week through the Senate and the Assembly.

00:35:54.000 The governor signs that.

00:35:55.000 Another 15% tax is coming our way.

00:35:57.000 And that gets passed to the consumer.

00:35:59.000 On top of the sales tax, on top of the city tax, on top of the excise tax, and some of the cities and counties in California having another 10 or 15% on top of it.

00:36:08.000 They're also taxing the growers now, also, I've heard.

00:36:11.000 So they're taxing anything that has anything to do with what you get as a final product.

00:36:14.000 Correct.

00:36:15.000 If that's the case, why would they be trying to stifle business?

00:36:18.000 Wouldn't they want to promote business because business is going to give them more tax revenue? 0.76

00:36:22.000 It's the ultimate paradox.

00:36:24.000 It is.

00:36:25.000 It is.

00:36:25.000 And a lot of it is because of law enforcement unions.

00:36:28.000 And not just them, but prison guard unions.

00:36:32.000 There's a lot of unions that put pressure on different politicians to try to keep the laws in place or to make them even stricter.

00:36:40.000 Because they want more people to get arrested.

00:36:43.000 Privatized prisons, subsidized prisons.

00:36:45.000 That is such a dark concept that this is something that we're really dealing with.

00:36:49.000 We really are.

00:36:50.000 And the problem is the penalties for the users, like having a joint, are very small.

00:36:55.000 But the penalties for the business, for doing it the wrong way, are huge. 1.00

00:36:58.000 Like our business is being crushed right now over a stupid zoning suit. 0.99

00:37:02.000 So there's this big gap between the business... 0.99

00:37:05.000 The penalty and the consumer penalty so that the business has no incentive, really, to do it the right way.

00:37:11.000 Because the consumer, you're going to go into a shop and ask them, hey, do you pay your people on the books?

00:37:16.000 You know, can I seek your compliancy packet?

00:37:18.000 No.

00:37:18.000 You just go, $40 eighth.

00:37:20.000 I love that OG. I'm buying it.

00:37:22.000 So with all these taxes, that $40 A has got to go to $100.

00:37:25.000 Are we going to pay that?

00:37:27.000 Or are we just going to go and call our dealer or whoever that we've been using for 20 years?

00:37:32.000 So it's just going to make the black market even broader. 0.84

00:37:36.000 Well, that's an issue that they've had in Colorado, for sure.

00:37:39.000 But people are happy to pay the taxes because they like the fact that it's free.

00:37:43.000 Like, the thing is free there.

00:37:44.000 Like, you can go and you can buy pot.

00:37:47.000 You don't have to have any kind of a license.

00:37:49.000 You don't have to any...

00:37:50.000 And you can just go do it, and it's working.

00:37:52.000 So 39% is what they have to pay.

00:37:54.000 Like recreational and medical is much less, but people just pay it.

00:37:58.000 You know, we're not happy about it, but regulation is what we want.

00:38:01.000 We just want the path to the way to do this the correct way.

00:38:05.000 Just make it fair.

00:38:06.000 But see, what's going on in Denver should be the shining light for the rest of the states.

00:38:11.000 Because what they've done is they've made money. 0.98

00:38:15.000 Like, they have so much fucking money from tax revenue. 0.98

00:38:18.000 They made more money from tax revenue than they did from alcohol taxes. 0.99

00:38:22.000 Right.

00:38:22.000 So last year, Colorado takes in $40 million in tax revenue from cannabis.

00:38:26.000 California takes in $40 million in tax revenue from cannabis.

00:38:30.000 We have...

00:38:31.000 30 million people in this state compared to Colorado's got, what, five, six million?

00:38:36.000 We're not collecting the taxes here.

00:38:38.000 So if the companies are not following the rules as they stand, why are we throwing all these new rules at them and setting up these monopolies like here in LA with the monopoly, stifling good businesses?

00:38:49.000 This doesn't help us and it doesn't help the consumer either.

00:38:53.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:38:54.000 It doesn't.

00:38:54.000 It's not like it would be dangerous.

00:38:56.000 It's not like if you get more pot out there, it's going to Flood the streets and the people are going to jump from the buildings.

00:39:01.000 It's actually less dangerous.

00:39:04.000 We've proven that, and again, that's why we're invited over and over to places like the Board of Equalization and to other places like Oakland.

00:39:13.000 The city of Oakland wants to follow our delivery model.

00:39:16.000 It's because the way we do things actually creates less...

00:39:22.000 Less crime, you know, less opportunity for crime because it's just we're in your living room.

00:39:28.000 You know, we know who you are.

00:39:30.000 You sent in your documents.

00:39:31.000 We know you live at that address.

00:39:33.000 We know you went to a doctor.

00:39:35.000 We know everything matches.

00:39:38.000 No one's seen you walk in or out of a place with a commodity that's more expensive than diamonds.

00:39:45.000 When you're looking at a dispensary, if people are walking in and out of there with duffel bags, what do you think's in those duffel bags?

00:39:51.000 It's very easy for crime to happen because it's visible.

00:39:56.000 We've done over 200,000 deliveries, zero assaults, zero robberies, zero complaints. 1.00

00:40:02.000 Knock on wood, bitch! 1.00

00:40:03.000 That's great. 1.00

00:40:04.000 Don't just let that go.

00:40:06.000 You know, that's an important stat, but it is because we are very thoughtful about how we go about making sure the person is who they are.

00:40:20.000 We do a Google search on every single patient.

00:40:22.000 We turn down as many patients as we would take, maybe even more, just to make sure they are who they say and that a easy background check doesn't pull up anything that says we shouldn't work with someone like that.

00:40:40.000 Yeah, pedophiles apparently love weed, too.

00:40:42.000 But we don't love pedophiles, so we don't let them in our class. 0.99

00:40:45.000 Pedophiles also like milk. 0.98

00:40:47.000 You know? 1.00

00:40:47.000 What the fuck are we doing? 1.00

00:40:49.000 So, connecting marijuana with crime is so stupid. 1.00

00:40:53.000 And there's no facts to back it up anymore. 1.00

00:40:55.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:40:57.000 Just because some people who use it are criminals.

00:41:01.000 That doesn't mean it's causing anything.

00:41:03.000 So there's no rationale for any of this.

00:41:05.000 And you're fighting against the idea of tax revenue.

00:41:08.000 You're holding back revenue.

00:41:10.000 Because there's a lot of people that are kind of on the fence. 1.00

00:41:14.000 Like, man, I'd think about opening up a pot store, but fuck. 1.00

00:41:17.000 What if Jeb Bush wins? 1.00

00:41:20.000 There's a lot of people that think like that.

00:41:22.000 Well, those people are not going to go in.

00:41:23.000 But if it becomes completely free and legal, the way a...

00:41:28.000 You know, a blue jeans store would be...

00:41:29.000 Blue jeans?

00:41:30.000 What am I doing?

00:41:30.000 My grandma?

00:41:32.000 It was like that.

00:41:34.000 I was just trying for a reference.

00:41:36.000 But if that happens, the store's going to open up everywhere.

00:41:39.000 And the money's going to be crazy.

00:41:40.000 It's going to be a new economy.

00:41:42.000 It's really possible with all the people here.

00:41:44.000 Yeah, they'll still have to follow regulations, you know?

00:41:48.000 It's already billions on the books.

00:41:50.000 Well, they should follow regulations.

00:41:51.000 I don't think this should be available to everybody. 0.99

00:41:53.000 I think when you're young especially, like this kind of fucking pop they have here in LA, you imagine if you were a six-year-old kid in Detroit and you got a hold of this shit? 0.99

00:42:03.000 No. 1.00

00:42:04.000 Six-year-olds are not ready for this.

00:42:05.000 They're not.

00:42:06.000 You should definitely come of age.

00:42:09.000 I don't know what that age is.

00:42:10.000 I think we would have to decide as a society how old someone should be before they start drinking.

00:42:16.000 There's a lot of countries that let kids drink responsibly with their parents when they're much younger than 21. And they have less incidence per capita of alcoholism than some of the countries that are more restrictive about it.

00:42:28.000 So I don't know who's right or who's wrong.

00:42:30.000 I don't know.

00:42:31.000 I know Americans, you know, things that work other places, like we said before, don't work here. 1.00

00:42:36.000 I remember going to Italy as a 16-year-old with school, and the first thing we did was run to a bodega and buy beer, because you could. 0.95

00:42:43.000 Because we're American kids, and we're dicks, and you can have beer.

00:42:46.000 So we didn't grow up responsibly, so we weren't acting responsibly. 0.92

00:42:50.000 We'd have to shift the whole way our culture is to make those things work.

00:42:54.000 And I don't know how to do that, but I know that weed... 0.69

00:42:57.000 Is the easy problem to solve.

00:42:59.000 Alcohol is a demon that needs to be rooted out of our society.

00:43:03.000 See, I disagree with you.

00:43:04.000 I disagree with you.

00:43:05.000 I enjoy alcohol.

00:43:07.000 No, I do too, but I mean like... 0.99

00:43:08.000 What the fuck then? 0.99

00:43:09.000 I mean, when we start having the conversation when people say, let's compare weed to alcohol, I start licking my chops because when you compare it to alcohol, alcohol is poisonous. 1.00

00:43:20.000 I dig drinking.

00:43:21.000 I drink a lot.

00:43:22.000 All the time.

00:43:23.000 So I'm not saying get rid of it.

00:43:25.000 But you did say that, though.

00:43:26.000 You just misspoke?

00:43:27.000 I misspoke.

00:43:28.000 I don't mean pull it away.

00:43:29.000 No, I understand.

00:43:30.000 I understand.

00:43:31.000 Let's not demonize marijuana compared to alcohol.

00:43:35.000 Right.

00:43:35.000 No, well, alcohol definitely ruins more people.

00:43:37.000 It's definitely way worse for your body.

00:43:39.000 It's definitely much more dangerous as far as operating cars and behavior, the foolish things that people do when they're drinking.

00:43:46.000 Yeah, all that stuff.

00:43:47.000 There's a lot of stuff that's directly attributable to alcohol, but...

00:43:51.000 So what?

00:43:52.000 So what?

00:43:54.000 We've survived for so long with alcohol.

00:43:57.000 The regulations have worked at least to a manageable effect.

00:44:03.000 But here's what you can't do.

00:44:04.000 You can't stop people from doing what they want to do.

00:44:07.000 Why should you?

00:44:08.000 Exactly.

00:44:09.000 And why is it that you can stop someone from doing that, but you can't stop them from practicing doing flips and BMX bikes?

00:44:15.000 Right.

00:44:16.000 You can't?

00:44:17.000 Right.

00:44:21.000 Driving and injuring other people, well then take away their own right to drive.

00:44:25.000 That's how we have it set up.

00:44:27.000 They're injuring people, they're getting in fights.

00:44:28.000 Well, you lock them in jail.

00:44:29.000 Yep.

00:44:30.000 But the rest of the people, leave us alone.

00:44:33.000 Yeah, we should have the right to control. 1.00

00:44:34.000 There's too many fucking laws. 0.98

00:44:35.000 We can control our own consciousness. 0.99

00:44:37.000 We can control what we put in our bodies.

00:44:38.000 And here's the most important concept.

00:44:40.000 We're all just people.

00:44:41.000 They're all just people, too.

00:44:43.000 Like, you can call them the government.

00:44:44.000 You can call them the police.

00:44:45.000 You can call them the DEA. They're a bunch of fucking people. 1.00

00:44:48.000 That's all they are. 1.00

00:44:49.000 When you go behind some big crazy name like, it's the FBI! Open up!

00:44:53.000 People go, oh shit, it's the FBI. If you go, it's Mike and Steve and Bob and we want to see what kind of plants are growing. 0.99

00:45:00.000 Right.

00:45:01.000 Open up! 1.00

00:45:01.000 Like, who the fuck are you guys? 1.00

00:45:03.000 Right. 1.00

00:45:03.000 You guys are just some fucking people. 1.00

00:45:05.000 So when you write something down on paper, this is how archaic our world is. 1.00

00:45:09.000 You write something down on paper that decrees power to these regular people. 1.00

00:45:14.000 So these regular people all of a sudden have the right to fucking shitstorm your house, kick open your door, shoot your dog, because you have a bag of pot hidden in your fucking bureau drawer. 1.00

00:45:25.000 This is the world we've created. 1.00

00:45:26.000 It is.

00:45:27.000 This is the real world.

00:45:29.000 And more people get killed during those raids than Pat would ever kill, that's for sure.

00:45:34.000 Pat doesn't kill anybody. 0.98

00:45:34.000 That's the most ridiculous thing about it. 0.98

00:45:36.000 I think the number's still zero, right? 0.97

00:45:37.000 Zero ever!

00:45:39.000 Man, they would be parading it in front of us.

00:45:41.000 Every now and then, like The Mirror in the UK, or one of those fake newspapers, will put, a young man dies on marijuana.

00:45:47.000 First known case, but...

00:45:49.000 It's not true.

00:45:50.000 It's not true.

00:45:51.000 It doesn't kill you.

00:45:52.000 It's not toxic. 0.99

00:45:54.000 It might fuck your head up. 0.99

00:45:57.000 But you should be allowed to make that choice that I'm gonna fuck my head up. 1.00

00:46:01.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:46:02.000 And if you're abusing it, then the people around you will help you or whatever needs to be done.

00:46:08.000 Dude, just like monster energy drinks.

00:46:10.000 I know people who drink those things all day long. 1.00

00:46:13.000 And look, I love the way those fucking things taste. 1.00

00:46:16.000 And if you want to stay awake and you're like, fuck it, we're going in, that is the way to go. 1.00

00:46:20.000 But you're not supposed to drink like 10 of them in a day. 0.99

00:46:23.000 No.

00:46:23.000 Right?

00:46:24.000 That dude needs an intervention. 1.00

00:46:25.000 Some people are crazy. 0.97

00:46:27.000 They'll drink 10 of those giant Red Bulls. 1.00

00:46:29.000 The big Red Bull.

00:46:30.000 You know when they started making Red Bull like a beer can now?

00:46:33.000 A Bud Tallboy?

00:46:34.000 People drink those all day.

00:46:36.000 Mostly people that have alcohol problems, they go to AA, they switch to caffeine.

00:46:41.000 So I got like 20 coffees a day for some of these guys.

00:46:44.000 I went to the hospital because of those energy joints from heart palpitations and stuff like that.

00:46:48.000 Oh, yeah, man.

00:46:49.000 Well, you know, they're great if you want one.

00:46:51.000 And Monster's probably actually less caffeine than some of them.

00:46:54.000 It's not that bad.

00:46:55.000 Monster's one of the better ones. 0.98

00:46:56.000 They're the better tasting ones. 1.00

00:46:57.000 The worst one that I ever tried, as far as the jolt that it gives you, was that Redline shit. 1.00

00:47:03.000 You remember that? 0.99

00:47:04.000 The one I went to the hospital was the Mountain Dew one.

00:47:07.000 They don't even make that anymore.

00:47:09.000 Right, it became illegal.

00:47:10.000 Yeah, it became illegal.

00:47:12.000 Redline.

00:47:13.000 What's Redline?

00:47:13.000 It was scary.

00:47:14.000 It was a little can.

00:47:15.000 And in that can was like 50 doses. 1.00

00:47:17.000 Stupid. 1.00

00:47:19.000 And you would down the whole thing. 1.00

00:47:20.000 But it was...

00:47:21.000 See if you can find it.

00:47:23.000 How safe are those five-hour energy drinks?

00:47:25.000 Oh, those are pretty safe.

00:47:26.000 Those are pretty safe.

00:47:27.000 Those are mostly vitamin B12. Right.

00:47:30.000 They only have, I want to say like 70 milligrams of caffeine.

00:47:33.000 Like a cup of coffee.

00:47:33.000 Yeah, like a cup of coffee.

00:47:35.000 So they're safe.

00:47:36.000 I don't feel the same drinking that as I do a Red Bull.

00:47:38.000 No, I like it.

00:47:39.000 I think it's better.

00:47:40.000 I like those B12 drinks.

00:47:42.000 I think B12 drinks are way better.

00:47:44.000 Caffeine, 250 milligrams of caffeine.

00:47:46.000 That doesn't seem like that much.

00:47:47.000 Hmm.

00:47:48.000 It doesn't.

00:47:49.000 Well, that's not an 8-ounce bottle either, is it?

00:47:52.000 It says per 8 fluid ounce bottle.

00:47:56.000 How much is in coffee?

00:47:58.000 Like, if coffee's 50 milligrams, then that's a lot. 0.99

00:48:00.000 Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong shit. 0.99

00:48:02.000 I swear I thought it was Redline. 0.99

00:48:05.000 Maybe I'm just wrong about the sheer volume of caffeine in that thing, but I thought it was just, like, ridiculous.

00:48:12.000 But anyway, I drank it, whatever it was.

00:48:13.000 It was this one or the other one that's like it that I mistaked the name for, but I'm pretty sure it's this.

00:48:18.000 Starbucks.

00:48:18.000 And I remember thinking, dude, I am just way too jacked up right now.

00:48:22.000 Starbucks, heavy caffeine.

00:48:24.000 Yeah.

00:48:25.000 Especially their cold brew.

00:48:27.000 Sometimes I get the Trenta cold brew. 0.99

00:48:28.000 Hold the fuck up. 0.98

00:48:30.000 A 20-ounce? 0.99

00:48:33.000 Yeah, that's a trinta. 1.00

00:48:34.000 No, that's a venti.

00:48:35.000 I get the one above that.

00:48:36.000 They don't even have the numbers for that.

00:48:38.000 But this is saying a 20- a 20 ounce has 415 milligrams of caffeine?

00:48:43.000 I would be in tachycardia. 0.99

00:48:45.000 Holy shit, is that real? 0.99

00:48:46.000 Iced coffee's more, I believe. 1.00

00:48:47.000 Yo, look at this.

00:48:48.000 Decaf has 30 milligrams.

00:48:51.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:48:52.000 What the fuck is that? 0.99

00:48:53.000 Decaf always has a little bit. 0.99

00:48:55.000 Yeah, I know, but 30 milligrams?

00:48:56.000 I thought it was like five or something.

00:48:58.000 I thought it was like trace amounts.

00:48:59.000 See what the iced coffee is?

00:49:00.000 I believe it's a lot more.

00:49:01.000 Really?

00:49:02.000 Yeah.

00:49:02.000 I get the Trenta's usually.

00:49:04.000 How is that possible?

00:49:06.000 The cold brew.

00:49:08.000 Cold brew, 330. Well, I guess it's not more.

00:49:12.000 But I get the Trenta version, so that's probably more.

00:49:14.000 Yeah, they can't keep serving you like that.

00:49:16.000 They're gonna have to pull back.

00:49:19.000 See, that's the thing, is I agree, but then my libertarian side doesn't agree. 0.99

00:49:24.000 Well, I didn't think you should drink that shit all day if you want. 0.99

00:49:27.000 Of course. 1.00

00:49:27.000 My friend Dave Foley used to drink pots of coffee. 1.00

00:49:30.000 Pots.

00:49:31.000 Like, all day.

00:49:32.000 He'd drink pots of coffee.

00:49:33.000 He had to stop putting cream in because he realized he was drinking a quart of cream a day.

00:49:37.000 I think of that every time I pour cream in my coffee, I think of your stories telling me about that.

00:49:41.000 A quart of cream?

00:49:43.000 Just from coffee.

00:49:45.000 Yeah, I like that fresh heavy cream in my coffee too, man.

00:49:48.000 That's what I'm talking about, dog.

00:49:50.000 Yeah, like a dark roast Hawaiian coffee with some heavy cream.

00:49:54.000 Talk slow.

00:49:55.000 Yeah, bitch! 1.00

00:49:56.000 Oh, you motherfucker, you're gonna make me feel good. 1.00

00:49:59.000 That's what cold brew... 1.00

00:50:00.000 Starbucks is now doing that.

00:50:01.000 They're doing it with their cold brew coffee.

00:50:02.000 They have like a heavy cream that's like caramel or something.

00:50:05.000 They mix through it.

00:50:06.000 Nice.

00:50:07.000 Nice.

00:50:08.000 Yeah, it's the cigarettes and coffee thing are the staples of the alcoholics, right?

00:50:12.000 Yeah.

00:50:12.000 A lot of...

00:50:13.000 AA people enjoy those cigarettes and they enjoy those coffees.

00:50:19.000 But in their eyes, they feel like they've got the alcohol part under wraps now because this stuff just kind of keeps them going.

00:50:28.000 And this stuff is not ruining their life.

00:50:29.000 Right.

00:50:30.000 I get it.

00:50:30.000 A lot of alcohols use cannabis the same way.

00:50:33.000 And that's not really...

00:50:35.000 Yeah.

00:51:00.000 Didn't the guy who created Alcoholics Anonymous, didn't he have positive experiences with LSD? That'd be funny.

00:51:10.000 That would be interesting.

00:51:10.000 I feel like he did.

00:51:11.000 Acid's the only thing you're allowed to take, guys.

00:51:13.000 Well, I feel like that was something that happened maybe even after...

00:51:19.000 I don't want to speak out of school.

00:51:22.000 Yeah?

00:51:22.000 Am I right?

00:51:23.000 Yeah.

00:51:26.000 Yeah, so... 1.00

00:51:27.000 What the fuck? 0.99

00:51:28.000 Well, that's why the government needs to lift testing on a lot of things, so we know. 0.99

00:51:32.000 Scroll that up, please.

00:51:33.000 Alcoholics Anonymous founder believed LSD could cure alcoholism.

00:51:38.000 Wow.

00:51:39.000 Well, you're seeing so much research now in psychedelics that clinics are opening up.

00:51:44.000 There's a clinic in LA for ketamine, you know, and you're seeing MDMA clinics opening up.

00:51:50.000 Look at this.

00:51:50.000 What most of them do not realize is that the program's co-founder, Bill Wilson, credited the psychedelic drug LSD for alleviating his alcoholism and believed the drug could be used to treat others as well.

00:52:03.000 Holy shit. 0.97

00:52:04.000 So those friends of Bill, they didn't get all the information. 0.99

00:52:08.000 You're friends of Bill, if you're in the Alcoholics Anonymous, right?

00:52:12.000 That's what they call themselves?

00:52:13.000 Yeah.

00:52:13.000 Friends of Bill?

00:52:14.000 That's like the code?

00:52:14.000 Bill W. But they didn't get that experience.

00:52:17.000 It's kind of like the mushrooms in Quitting Cigarettes.

00:52:19.000 Yeah.

00:52:19.000 But do you think they tell them?

00:52:21.000 I never heard this before today.

00:52:24.000 How could you not tell these people?

00:52:25.000 Wilson first began experimenting with LSD in Los Angeles at the Veterans Administration back in 1956. But after taking his first hit of acid, he realized that it was not the aspect of terror that could help remedy alcoholism, but rather the insight one could attain from stepping into a world of simulated insanity.

00:52:46.000 Whoa.

00:52:48.000 Wilson believed that using the LSD could help the alcoholic discover a power greater than ourselves that in turn could restore us to sanity.

00:52:57.000 However, he was adamant that using acid to combat the demons of alcoholism was not something that one could expect from a single dose.

00:53:05.000 He's like, more research is required.

00:53:08.000 And snacks.

00:53:10.000 Wow.

00:53:11.000 Hmm.

00:53:11.000 That's interesting, man.

00:53:13.000 That's interesting.

00:53:13.000 Yeah, psychedelics, I think, as we experiment with them, like medically, are going to reveal some secrets to our consciousness.

00:53:23.000 But this guy's a heavy-duty tripper as they're going further down.

00:53:26.000 He was tripping with Aldous Huxley.

00:53:29.000 This isn't one experience he had.

00:53:32.000 Interesting, there's documentation that indicates Wilson was involved with many supervised LSD trials, including some with psychologist Betty Eisner and Brave New World author Aldous Huxley, which led him to believe that the visions and insights given by LSD could create a large incentive,

00:53:51.000 at least in a considerable number of people.

00:53:54.000 Huh.

00:53:54.000 And Huxley was like a leader in psychedelics.

00:53:58.000 They left this out of the AA pamphlet.

00:54:00.000 How could they leave this out?

00:54:02.000 That's crazy.

00:54:03.000 Because it seems like this had to play a major part in this guy's ability to kick alcohol.

00:54:09.000 Well, it seems like every major religion also left out the psychedelics that probably created them as well.

00:54:15.000 So I think a lot of times you've got to leave out the stuff that you think people aren't going to follow you for.

00:54:23.000 Wait a minute, are you seeing Alcoholics Anonymous as a religion?

00:54:26.000 Is that what you just said? 1.00

00:54:27.000 You son of a bitch. 1.00

00:54:29.000 I can't even believe you, Gino. 1.00

00:54:30.000 I thought we were friends.

00:54:32.000 That is really wild, man.

00:54:35.000 That's really interesting stuff.

00:54:36.000 But it totally makes sense that it could help you kick an addiction.

00:54:40.000 That totally makes sense.

00:54:42.000 Because of the stark contrast between being intoxicated on it and what it feels like to be normal.

00:54:48.000 And this rethinking, like a reset button.

00:54:51.000 That's what all the psychedelics provide that's like really beneficial besides being fun.

00:54:56.000 They all provide that reset that takes you so far out of who you are right now that when you come back you go, man, am I doing this the right way?

00:55:03.000 Right.

00:55:04.000 You know, now that I'm back to sober reality, do I need to refocus?

00:55:07.000 A disconnection from your, like, own ego.

00:55:10.000 Yeah.

00:55:10.000 Probably a good idea.

00:55:11.000 You know, and you have the organization MAPS. You had the guy from MAPS on the podcast who does the psychedelic research.

00:55:23.000 Rick Doblin?

00:55:25.000 Yes.

00:55:26.000 So just recently, they got authorized from the federal government to start doing research on cannabis for the first time.

00:55:37.000 The federal ban was lifted, and it was because of MAPS. That they were able to get that.

00:55:43.000 They were the first ones granted that federal research on cannabis.

00:55:48.000 So it's in very similar ways.

00:55:52.000 We need to do research on LSD. We need to do research on psilocybin.

00:55:56.000 Because there could be medical effects that, just like cannabis, we're just denying because of years of, you know, this is the way it was.

00:56:05.000 They're bad.

00:56:06.000 Jamie, put that back up.

00:56:07.000 That quote about Bill.

00:56:10.000 This is crazy.

00:56:11.000 Look at this.

00:56:11.000 It says, unfortunately, LSD made its way into the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous simply because others in the hierarchy did not support it as a viable treatment.

00:56:21.000 In fact, a document published in 1984 by Alcoholics Anonymous World Services in New York explained that the reason the program does not endorse the use of LSD As word of Bill's activity, this is all in quotes, as word of Bill's activities reached the fellowship, there were inevitable repercussions.

00:56:38.000 Most AAs were violently opposed to his experimenting with a mind-altering substance.

00:56:44.000 LSD was then totally unfamiliar, poorly researched, and entirely experimental, dot dot dot, and Bill was taking it, end quote.

00:56:53.000 Boner pills.

00:56:54.000 They were scared.

00:56:56.000 They were all scared that this guy was tripping.

00:56:59.000 That's hilarious.

00:57:00.000 So they didn't want to include it, even though the founder of the program found it massively beneficial.

00:57:06.000 And it's almost ironic that if AA users...

00:57:09.000 He was trying to put it in there, and they kicked him out, basically.

00:57:11.000 Really?

00:57:12.000 Yeah, that's what this is right here.

00:57:13.000 Where's this up here?

00:57:13.000 Oh, yeah, look at that.

00:57:14.000 He's got a lot of resistance, so he had to step down.

00:57:16.000 He was chastised.

00:57:17.000 Wow, that's hilarious.

00:57:18.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:57:19.000 Because Timothy...

00:57:21.000 Well...

00:57:22.000 Terence McKenna attributed this quote to Timothy Leary, but Timothy Leary said he never said it, so nobody knows exactly who said it, but that LSD causes violent reactions to people who have never tried it.

00:57:33.000 What?

00:57:34.000 Well, that's very interesting.

00:57:36.000 The people that haven't tried it are the ones that are freaking out.

00:57:40.000 I get it.

00:57:40.000 Not the people who were on it.

00:57:42.000 Right.

00:57:42.000 Do you think LSD, though, for real, can solve anything?

00:57:46.000 I've done it maybe over 200 times.

00:57:48.000 You might not be the best example.

00:57:50.000 Wow.

00:57:51.000 Also, when you were taking it 200 times, a lot of that was recreational.

00:57:56.000 But I'm sure there were small little things that I was probably going through that I... Were you concentrating on it to try to use it that way?

00:58:16.000 Or...

00:58:17.000 That's the thing.

00:58:18.000 It's also going to go with your own intention, probably.

00:58:21.000 Yeah, but it doesn't work for you.

00:58:23.000 It's not like, hey, clean up my life.

00:58:26.000 I'm going to take some acid.

00:58:28.000 No, you've got to do the work yourself.

00:58:30.000 I just don't see it ever.

00:58:32.000 All these psychedelics, like the good experiences and the bad experiences, represent what's the state of mind when you go into them.

00:58:38.000 That's why the people that take it really seriously and they go through this all meditative ritual and they'll do yoga and they'll do breathing exercises and they'll set a tone to whatever they would like to go into this experience with.

00:58:52.000 Say that they're going into the experience open and humble and say all these things out loud, and then they enter into the psychedelic trip.

00:58:58.000 They do it that way because they want to set an intention.

00:59:02.000 If you just broke up with a girl and you take acid, you really think acid is going to fix anything because it didn't help me when I broke up my girl.

00:59:10.000 Like, that's really what you're saying.

00:59:11.000 But you could also be like, hey, I want to quit smoking, take acid, and be like, what happened?

00:59:15.000 Did you quit smoking?

00:59:16.000 And like, no, I focused on cigarettes, and then the whole place melted, and then my hand turned into a bunch of snakes, so no, I still want cigarettes.

00:59:22.000 But again, it's not, you don't really want to quit.

00:59:26.000 If you wanted to quit, you would just quit.

00:59:27.000 Right.

00:59:28.000 But I don't think the acid has anything to do with that.

00:59:30.000 It doesn't help you.

00:59:31.000 It's not going to just decide for you.

00:59:33.000 Like it depends on what's the intention that you go into taking any psychedelic, whether it's mushrooms or whatever.

00:59:38.000 What's the intention that you go into this trip with?

00:59:42.000 You can't think like acid doesn't work because it didn't help me quit smoking.

00:59:46.000 Like you didn't help you quit smoking.

00:59:48.000 Like these are decisions that you make.

00:59:50.000 Yeah, I just don't see how acid, unless it's really bad acid, you'll remember anything except melty stuff and walls melting and lizards.

01:00:01.000 I just don't see any kind of help.

01:00:03.000 On a lesser level, do you feel like cannabis has changed your personality?

01:00:08.000 Because that is something you might not go into saying, alright, I broke up with something I'm going to smoke weed for, but throughout your lifetime, Has cannabis had an effect on you that you feel like it's changed your personality?

01:00:20.000 I've been smoking since I was like 14, 15, so I don't even know what my personality was before.

01:00:24.000 If anything, I think marijuana made me more paranoid and scared.

01:00:27.000 You know, I was more like freaked out and stuff.

01:00:30.000 But as a medicine for like headaches, and I don't take almost any pills now.

01:00:35.000 I don't have Tylenol in my house anymore.

01:00:36.000 If I have a headache, I use weed.

01:00:38.000 So for that, it has helped me tremendously.

01:00:42.000 Personality-wise, probably not.

01:00:43.000 It probably made me more paranoid and awful as a person when smoking it, because I get panicky.

01:00:49.000 If I'm super stoned in a room of people, it's not helping me at all.

01:00:54.000 It's making it worse, if anything.

01:00:55.000 What about you, Joe?

01:00:56.000 You started later.

01:00:58.000 You didn't start as a teenager, so do you feel like it's made a difference on who you are?

01:01:04.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:01:05.000 It changes your perspective.

01:01:07.000 It offers you a different frequency of insight, I would say.

01:01:15.000 One of the things that's done that's good is it makes me consider things that I might not be thinking about.

01:01:22.000 It illuminates areas of your consciousness that maybe you weren't paying attention to.

01:01:29.000 It's made me a nicer guy.

01:01:31.000 I'm kind of a type A, high-strung guy.

01:01:33.000 If there's an employee that I just want to strangle, I can take a hit of an OG and suddenly be like, He's alright.

01:01:41.000 He's had a hard day.

01:01:42.000 Exactly.

01:01:43.000 Instead of accelerating that kind of behavior, shitty behavior, it definitely makes you more inclined towards fellowship and kindness.

01:01:52.000 It's a really good chemical.

01:01:55.000 It's a really good reaction that your mind has to this natural plant.

01:01:59.000 For creative reasons, 100%.

01:02:01.000 It definitely opens up a different pathway in your head.

01:02:04.000 I like it for everything.

01:02:05.000 I like it for a lot of different things.

01:02:07.000 But for creative reasons, it's one of the best things.

01:02:10.000 Sure.

01:02:11.000 A lot of our celebrity patients that are working in comedy or music or television or the movies, they want sativas specifically so they're not down at all because sativas are more known for their creativity.

01:02:30.000 And things like that.

01:02:31.000 So we find people who are working in the creative field, they want to smoke sativas, you know, which is an important distinction between indicas and sativas.

01:02:44.000 A lot of people don't know that different types of marijuana can affect you differently, you know.

01:02:52.000 There are some people who are medicating for certain ailments.

01:02:56.000 Well, they should smoke something that specifically works for those ailments.

01:02:59.000 If you're smoking because you're looking for creativity, because you're looking for that You don't want to lay on the couch and go to sleep.

01:03:13.000 Then you should smoke sativas.

01:03:16.000 If you are looking for that, it's nighttime, I want to relax, time to go to bed, you should smoke Indica's because that's going to bring you down and give you that body high with the CBD chemical that's inside.

01:03:27.000 Yep, that's what I want.

01:03:28.000 I'm like Brian.

01:03:29.000 I get jumpy with the sativa.

01:03:32.000 I get a little bit freaked out, a little paranoid. 0.99

01:03:34.000 Why don't you pussies move in together? 1.00

01:03:35.000 Hey! 1.00

01:03:37.000 I think we're neighbors, actually.

01:03:38.000 Yeah, we are.

01:03:40.000 Yeah, no, look, we've all been too high.

01:03:43.000 Everybody's been too high. 0.97

01:03:45.000 You know, one of the famous scientists, it wasn't Carl Sagan, it was some other famous scientist, it was one of those theoretical mathematician guys who writes all that crazy scribble shit. 0.96

01:03:55.000 He would just talk about how he likes one hit. 0.96

01:03:58.000 That's what he likes to take.

01:03:59.000 Just one hit. 0.71

01:04:00.000 Just go for a walk.

01:04:01.000 All these ideas would come to him. 0.99

01:04:02.000 It's like, you don't have to get fucking blasted. 0.99

01:04:04.000 Just one hit. 1.00

01:04:06.000 That's why I was so against it at first, is because I thought one hit made you really fucked up. 0.99

01:04:11.000 Because that's how I saw Gino. 0.99

01:04:13.000 But it turned out Gino would say, you were such a dick to me when I smoked weed in your house that I'd have to go outside, smoke a whole joint in two minutes and come in and be a mess. 0.97

01:04:21.000 So that was what I was exposed to, is I don't want any of that. 0.98

01:04:24.000 I didn't realize you could just take one hit and just chill out and still work and still function.

01:04:30.000 Nobody knows.

01:04:31.000 And it makes people nicer.

01:04:32.000 It definitely does.

01:04:33.000 It did for me.

01:04:34.000 Yeah.

01:04:36.000 I think to say that, what are the medical effects?

01:04:43.000 What are you treating yourself for?

01:04:45.000 It's almost silly to say because everyone else who's Not really treating themselves for cancer or something like that.

01:04:54.000 They are getting mood regulation out of it.

01:04:56.000 So even if you want to call it recreational smoking, you're still getting mood regulation out of it.

01:05:01.000 And those people who smoke it almost daily or on whatever schedule they smoke it on...

01:05:07.000 If they didn't, they might be on Percocet.

01:05:09.000 They might be on Wellbutrin.

01:05:11.000 They might be on a million other drugs.

01:05:14.000 So to say that recreational use is people just getting high, that's also not accepting that people are looking for mood regulation as a medical effect.

01:05:27.000 Yeah, we already have it.

01:05:28.000 We already have it with coffee.

01:05:30.000 Yeah.

01:05:31.000 Coffee, nicotine, booze, that's all.

01:05:34.000 There's a lot of those.

01:05:35.000 There's so many different things we already accept.

01:05:38.000 Sugar.

01:05:38.000 Yeah.

01:05:39.000 Well, sugar's the scariest one. 1.00

01:05:40.000 That shit's everywhere once you start paying attention to it. 0.99

01:05:43.000 But the idea is that you should be able to do whatever you want. 1.00

01:05:45.000 If you want to eat candy bars all day, that should be completely up to you.

01:05:49.000 And that's not where we are, you know?

01:05:51.000 And the fact that's not where we are with one of the most beneficial plants the world's ever known, because that's really what it is.

01:06:00.000 Especially since its connection to hemp.

01:06:02.000 It's the most beneficial plant the world's ever known.

01:06:04.000 And it's illegal. 1.00

01:06:05.000 I mean, that doesn't show you how stupid people are. 1.00

01:06:08.000 I mean, we're so goddamn goofy. 1.00

01:06:10.000 We are. 0.99

01:06:10.000 And it's going to get worse before it gets better, unfortunately. 0.99

01:06:14.000 You think?

01:06:15.000 Because the laws are such a mess right now.

01:06:17.000 Listen, Hillary Clinton's going to fix everything when she gets in office. 1.00

01:06:20.000 She's going to be great.

01:06:21.000 She's always been top shelf.

01:06:24.000 It's going to be fine.

01:06:25.000 Well, who, Donald Trump?

01:06:26.000 Is he going to fix it?

01:06:27.000 I don't think he cares.

01:06:28.000 Does he care?

01:06:29.000 I know he doesn't care.

01:06:31.000 I know that for a fact.

01:06:32.000 Do you think he would legalize marijuana nationwide?

01:06:34.000 I get a lot of stoners switch gears.

01:06:36.000 No, what scares me is, what if he makes Chris Christie the attorney general?

01:06:40.000 That would be bad.

01:06:41.000 It would be hilarious.

01:06:43.000 Oh, it would be so bad for my business, dude.

01:06:45.000 That would be bad.

01:06:45.000 It would be hilarious.

01:06:46.000 That guy's not going to be the attorney general.

01:06:49.000 If he's not the Attorney General, I'll take anybody.

01:06:51.000 Whoever you got. 1.00

01:06:52.000 So foolish. 1.00

01:06:53.000 He's so foolish. 1.00

01:06:55.000 His opinions on marijuana while consuming copious amounts of sugar in public, they're so ridiculous. 1.00

01:07:01.000 They're ridiculous. 1.00

01:07:01.000 He put a bag of M&M's inside his M&M's after he had stomach surgery. 1.00

01:07:07.000 I mean, he's a crazy person. 0.90

01:07:08.000 This guy's addicted to sugar, 100%. 1.00

01:07:10.000 That's clear.

01:07:12.000 So no way you stay that big unless you're eating terrible.

01:07:15.000 That's just it.

01:07:15.000 But he'll go with one thing is legal, one thing is not, end of story.

01:07:20.000 Who's an insane person?

01:07:21.000 But that's what we're fighting with the city.

01:07:23.000 This is the law, end of story.

01:07:25.000 Yeah.

01:07:26.000 You think Bernie has no chance?

01:07:29.000 He can't even win the Democratic side anymore.

01:07:31.000 Still voting for Gary, man.

01:07:33.000 Gary Johnson.

01:07:34.000 Yeah, Gary Johnson is a better...

01:07:36.000 It's almost a...

01:07:37.000 Well, it's a more likely vote than Bernie at this point.

01:07:39.000 I just don't think, like, physically he can win.

01:07:42.000 What could happen, though, is he and Hillary could team up, and they would be a formidable twosome. 0.87

01:07:47.000 It'd be Hillary, and then he would be the vice president.

01:07:50.000 That'd be crazy, though.

01:07:51.000 That's so left. 1.00

01:07:53.000 If they said any nasty shit to each other... 1.00

01:07:56.000 You gotta curb your words when you're running. 1.00

01:08:00.000 You gotta make sure you don't get too negative so that you could join forces.

01:08:04.000 Would they put a socialist on the ticket in the United States of America?

01:08:07.000 Well, he's a democratic socialist.

01:08:09.000 It's not entirely like a socialist.

01:08:11.000 To beat Trump, I think they might do it.

01:08:13.000 It's tricky.

01:08:14.000 But he does have the support of the youth.

01:08:17.000 You know, he's got people fired up.

01:08:19.000 Socially, he sits down with people like Killer Mike and has long-term interviews.

01:08:24.000 He's interesting.

01:08:25.000 He's interesting.

01:08:26.000 He's different.

01:08:27.000 He doesn't accept money.

01:08:28.000 Look, I like a lot of what he stands for.

01:08:30.000 I agree with half of it.

01:08:31.000 I like him way better than I like her.

01:08:33.000 I'm not a big fan of...

01:08:35.000 The whole, like, long-term politicians.

01:08:40.000 I'm not a big fan of those kind of people.

01:08:42.000 There just seems like you just have too many compromises along the way.

01:08:45.000 There's too much, like, weaving in and out of the system.

01:08:49.000 And the more intertwined in the system, the more suspicious we should all be.

01:08:52.000 She's way more intertwined in the system than he is.

01:08:54.000 Of course.

01:08:54.000 Well, here's an example.

01:08:56.000 Speedweed shut down by Proposition D, which was written by a lawyer who represents a bunch of dispensaries that are protected by Proposition D. Those are some dots.

01:09:05.000 You can connect them.

01:09:07.000 So, an attorney writes a law that protects his clients and it gets passed.

01:09:10.000 How does that happen?

01:09:11.000 I don't know.

01:09:12.000 But, I know that career politicians don't make things better, you know, for us.

01:09:17.000 Yeah, they only do if it's the will of the people, and that's the only way they can stay in office.

01:09:21.000 But usually it's not really just the will of the people.

01:09:23.000 People aren't really paying attention, but it's the will of these corporations. 0.83

01:09:26.000 They get involved, they're donating money, and the people don't even know what the fuck is happening while it's happening. 0.88

01:09:30.000 That's right. 0.62

01:09:31.000 Well, that's what we have exactly going on here.

01:09:34.000 There's a lot of those laws, right?

01:09:36.000 Yeah.

01:09:37.000 We're dealing with a lot of them.

01:09:40.000 Again, to say that...

01:09:42.000 A business had to be in operation before 2007 in order to be considered now to be a viable business.

01:09:51.000 Well, if you were in operation in 2007, you were in that Wild West category, so you were already skating that line.

01:10:12.000 Yeah, we just laid off 40 people that are now in unemployment.

01:10:16.000 40 good people that really can't get decent jobs anywhere, that were paid well above minimum wage, are now just laid off and going on the government dollar. 0.92

01:10:26.000 That sucks.

01:10:27.000 Because of this law that nobody knows about and nobody read. 0.97

01:10:30.000 And for us, it came at a time where we were...

01:10:36.000 So excited about the future, working with the Board of Equalization.

01:10:40.000 We were in our largest expansion at the time.

01:10:44.000 We were going from the largest market, which was L.A., to expanding throughout all of California, which we're still doing, but we just now have to not include L.A., which was our main base.

01:10:56.000 So what the law pertains to is you delivering things to people that live in homes because that home has not been cleared as a place to do business?

01:11:08.000 Because of the zoning law, only these 135 pre-ICO's are allowed to operate at all within the city.

01:11:15.000 Nobody else can join the club.

01:11:17.000 It's only that 135. And any marijuana vehicle is an extension of the marijuana business.

01:11:24.000 So every car is zoned like a building.

01:11:27.000 So essentially they've limited the number of stores that can operate.

01:11:30.000 Yes.

01:11:30.000 The number of dispensaries.

01:11:31.000 And you guys got pushed out because you didn't have...

01:11:35.000 A few more reasons.

01:11:36.000 You were grandfathered in.

01:11:37.000 Well, that's number one.

01:11:38.000 But number two is our base, where our business is, is not in the city limits of L.A. So by...

01:12:06.000 We're not even in L.A. And we have to deal with this.

01:12:11.000 We're outside the city of L.A. Because the city of L.A. encompasses Hollywood and a lot of L.A. But there are places that people think are L.A. like Beverly Hills or West Hollywood.

01:12:22.000 Those aren't L.A. Well, our lawsuit says we're operating a sophisticated delivery company running about seven hubs out of the L.A. area.

01:12:32.000 It's like, well, where are the addresses on the lawsuit?

01:12:35.000 There are none, because we don't have any locations inside the city.

01:12:37.000 We don't roll orders out of there.

01:12:39.000 But it's not in the paperwork. 0.56

01:12:42.000 It's so goofy.

01:12:44.000 This is the scary problem with big government. 1.00

01:12:48.000 This is the problem with government that just has too many regulations and too much red tape and too much bullshit. 0.99

01:12:54.000 Stuff like this. 0.97

01:12:54.000 And there should be a balance of harm to our company that is trying to work within every... 0.97

01:13:02.000 Regulation of California working with the state to create them, you know?

01:13:07.000 Well, let me ask you this.

01:13:08.000 When is it going to be legal?

01:13:10.000 Is it on the books to be tried in November?

01:13:13.000 In November, yes.

01:13:14.000 We have to organize.

01:13:15.000 Like, this is an important thing for the future of mankind.

01:13:19.000 We have to.

01:13:20.000 It is.

01:13:20.000 This must be done.

01:13:21.000 And unfortunately, there's even infighting within the...

01:13:24.000 Cannabis industry.

01:13:26.000 Yeah.

01:13:26.000 Well, you know what the problem that I ran into when we were talking about the first legalization vote?

01:13:31.000 The growers didn't want it to be legal because they would make less money.

01:13:35.000 Of course.

01:13:36.000 The guys are growing illegally.

01:13:37.000 And I was like, wow.

01:13:38.000 And he's like, hey, man, I'm just telling you the truth.

01:13:40.000 But we're at a point now that if we don't do that, they're going to get pushed out anyway by bigger corporations that will come in and be able to pay millions of dollars for licensing and buildings and things like that.

01:13:52.000 People are greedy and they're short-sighted.

01:13:54.000 You can't be greedy and you can't be short-sighted.

01:13:57.000 This is a global issue. 0.98

01:14:00.000 And in these environments where these people are saying we're gonna make less money, bullshit, expand. 0.95

01:14:06.000 It's gonna be legal now, Dunny. 0.96

01:14:08.000 Like, yeah, you're gonna have competition. 0.99

01:14:10.000 So fucking what? 0.99

01:14:11.000 If you're making money, why do you care if other people are making money? 0.99

01:14:13.000 Why are you concentrating on that?

01:14:15.000 Just enjoy life.

01:14:17.000 You're gonna have a bunch of pothead millionaires around you. 1.00

01:14:18.000 Right.

01:14:19.000 And you know, along those lines, as we were cultivating for our own patient base, We follow the laws for California to cultivate.

01:14:35.000 Once local licensing started becoming possible for cultivation, it wasn't before the governor signed this bill last year.

01:14:46.000 Now it's becoming possible.

01:14:47.000 We went out and we're now participating with Desert Hot Springs for a legal cultivation.

01:14:54.000 So it's going to be a place where the police could come in, the government could come in, inspect it.

01:14:58.000 So we're moving forward with full legalization on cultivation as well.

01:15:04.000 Paying everything you got to pay for, making sure that when you build your building, it's built to the right specs.

01:15:12.000 Again, the government's involved in every part of it.

01:15:14.000 So again, we're moving forward with the regulations, even though it's going to cost us a lot of money.

01:15:22.000 The investment team that's behind it has already put $2 million in just to buy the property.

01:15:29.000 So it's going to cost a lot of money and you're not going to make the money, millions of dollars that you're hoping for, but at least you're doing it in a way that can be regulated and you can open up your doors and not hide.

01:15:44.000 Because we don't want to hide.

01:15:45.000 Everything we've ever done, we haven't hidden.

01:15:48.000 We've said everything in the media.

01:15:49.000 Hey, we're following regulations.

01:15:51.000 We're trying to do everything the right way.

01:15:54.000 We're paying the taxes we have to pay.

01:15:57.000 We're working.

01:15:58.000 Well, that's why we got sued, is because if you sue Speedweed, that gets your name in the paper.

01:16:03.000 You sue one of the other 400 delivery services that you can find operating right now today that are illegal.

01:16:09.000 That's not going to get your name in the paper in an election year.

01:16:13.000 Maybe it's a conspiracy theory, but all of the facts in our case are dated 2014. We got served in 2016. I don't know, is this a special year to politicians?

01:16:24.000 Maybe it's a special year.

01:16:26.000 Okay, so hold on for a second.

01:16:27.000 So there are certain delivery companies that are allowed to operate inside LA. No, nobody's allowed.

01:16:33.000 No one now.

01:16:33.000 But they are.

01:16:34.000 But they are.

01:16:35.000 But they do anyway.

01:16:35.000 Over 400. They do 400 illegal ones?

01:16:38.000 Yeah.

01:16:39.000 They're all illegal.

01:16:41.000 The podcast.

01:16:41.000 I know, I know.

01:16:42.000 Golden snitches.

01:16:43.000 So we're going to start doing overnight delivery with medical couriers to the entire state.

01:16:48.000 So Speedweed will deliver to anywhere in California that's allowed, not inside the city limits of LA, but outside the city limits.

01:16:56.000 You're in Fresno, you're in Sacramento, wherever you are.

01:16:58.000 Could a patient meet you at the border?

01:17:01.000 No.

01:17:03.000 Like a taco stand at the border and you make a handoff?

01:17:06.000 Certain patients, baby.

01:17:08.000 Burbank in LA? Burbank is not in LA. Oh, so I can still get delivery?

01:17:13.000 You're good until they tell the delivery services to stop.

01:17:17.000 But Burbank does not like the industry.

01:17:20.000 Just like Glendale and Pasadena do not like the industry.

01:17:23.000 Why is that?

01:17:24.000 It's the propaganda machine.

01:17:27.000 Law enforcement shows up at the city hall and starts screaming about it.

01:17:31.000 If you have dispensaries, you're going to have crime.

01:17:33.000 Delivery is going to be a lot of cash and product in the cars.

01:17:35.000 You're bringing crime.

01:17:36.000 And they frighten the city council and the people that vote into saying, all right, so we don't want it here.

01:17:41.000 Right.

01:17:42.000 Let it happen in Echo Park where the hippies live.

01:17:45.000 We're here in Burbank with the studios.

01:17:48.000 We don't want it in our town.

01:17:50.000 I don't think the studios would want it because so many of the actors are probably like, give me weed.

01:17:53.000 I need it delivered.

01:17:54.000 They do.

01:17:55.000 We've delivered on movie sets.

01:17:58.000 Of course they do.

01:18:00.000 Everybody does. 0.99

01:18:00.000 Some of those roles that people play probably have to be high as fuck to do it. 0.99

01:18:04.000 I wonder if Daniel Day-Lewis smokes weed. 1.00

01:18:06.000 Fuck yeah, he does. 1.00

01:18:07.000 We can't talk about privacy of certain patients. 1.00

01:18:12.000 What are you trying to say?

01:18:13.000 I'm not trying to say anything.

01:18:15.000 I'm saying a lot of the actors you would think are smoking weed while they're acting.

01:18:19.000 They are.

01:18:20.000 Interesting.

01:18:22.000 Of course they are.

01:18:24.000 Yeah, I know several. 0.98

01:18:25.000 We don't have to name names, but I know a lot of people get super high as fuck right before they do a scene. 0.95

01:18:30.000 Sure. 0.95

01:18:30.000 Kind of makes sense. 0.95

01:18:33.000 You know, I mean, you've introduced me to some, so certainly you know.

01:18:38.000 And they're...

01:18:39.000 Just as many that you would never suspect that that guy is an everyday smoker.

01:18:44.000 And they are.

01:18:45.000 And that's because there's still stigma.

01:18:50.000 And when you're living in a public life, you need privacy.

01:18:53.000 And that's one of the reasons you need delivery.

01:18:55.000 Because some of my patient bases, if they walked into a dispensary, they're going to lose endorsements and sponsor money because they're on family shows, things like that.

01:19:07.000 Well, How is that fair to them?

01:19:09.000 They need their medication.

01:19:10.000 They need safe access to their medication.

01:19:12.000 They can't...

01:19:13.000 You're saying it all grand, dude.

01:19:14.000 They're trying to get high. 1.00

01:19:15.000 Settle the fuck down. 1.00

01:19:16.000 I know. 1.00

01:19:16.000 They need their medication. 1.00

01:19:18.000 They're dying!

01:19:19.000 Beast, it's anti-venom!

01:19:20.000 We have to protect it.

01:19:21.000 Get it to him, quickly!

01:19:22.000 Our Disney kids. 0.95

01:19:23.000 The poison of society has seeped deep into his brains.

01:19:27.000 Joe, have you been to Denver yet since the league?

01:19:31.000 Yeah.

01:19:31.000 I was just there like four months ago, five months ago, something like that.

01:19:34.000 So just walking down the street, just walking to anything?

01:19:37.000 Pot places everywhere.

01:19:38.000 They're all over the place.

01:19:39.000 It's like Amsterdam.

01:19:40.000 It's like some weird new American Amsterdam.

01:19:43.000 And there's so much money.

01:19:46.000 Real estate prices are skyrocketing.

01:19:49.000 Real estate prices are up like 19%.

01:19:51.000 How's the prices?

01:19:52.000 Like a joint in Denver?

01:19:55.000 Do you have any idea?

01:19:57.000 It's more expensive than it is here.

01:19:59.000 And they do have different pricing for medical as they do for recreational.

01:20:03.000 We went over that with taxes.

01:20:05.000 It's 39% taxes versus I think like nine.

01:20:08.000 However, I've been there plenty of times.

01:20:12.000 And the weed here in Southern California is still the best that I've seen in the world.

01:20:16.000 How is that possible?

01:20:16.000 It seems like Denver would have the best climate.

01:20:18.000 Everybody needs to fucking relax on this big dick measuring competition between states and their weed. 0.99

01:20:24.000 We were in Pittsburgh. 1.00

01:20:26.000 No, we were in Philly and we got high.

01:20:28.000 This dude at a radio station gave us a joint and we were like, some Philly weed. 0.93

01:20:33.000 I'll just smoke the fuck out of this Philly weed. 0.99

01:20:35.000 This ain't gonna do shit. 0.99

01:20:36.000 And like 20 minutes later, we were like, dude, we made a mistake. 0.92

01:20:42.000 This Philly weed is legit.

01:20:44.000 I think there's an answer to that, though, is that the best weed in Colorado is still black market.

01:20:51.000 Okay.

01:20:53.000 Maybe, but come on, man.

01:20:55.000 Philly was illegal. 0.99

01:20:56.000 This stuff is so fucking strong. 1.00

01:20:58.000 You guys are crazy talk. 0.99

01:20:59.000 You're talking for the deepest of the deep and the deep end of the pool. 0.96

01:21:03.000 That's who you're talking. 0.99

01:21:04.000 All the pot, whether it's Colorado or California, will put you on fucking Pluto. 0.99

01:21:09.000 All of it. 0.99

01:21:10.000 No doubt.

01:21:11.000 And the difference between two hits of Colorado pot and two hits of California pot is if you can measure that, write a book.

01:21:18.000 And it's the joint you had.

01:21:20.000 What if you had three joints and those were just the three shittiest joints in Colorado?

01:21:23.000 I don't buy it.

01:21:25.000 I was in Colorado.

01:21:26.000 I had some of their weed. 1.00

01:21:28.000 It's fucking ridiculous. 1.00

01:21:30.000 It's like... 1.00

01:21:31.000 It's super weed. 1.00

01:21:33.000 It's all the same shit. 1.00

01:21:34.000 All these strains have gotten everywhere. 1.00

01:21:37.000 They're all over the country. 1.00

01:21:38.000 They have this shit in New York now. 1.00

01:21:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:21:40.000 Do you get higher because of the elevation for weed?

01:21:43.000 Yeah, you have no air. 0.99

01:21:44.000 So it's probably just shitty weed. 0.98

01:21:45.000 No, no, no. 0.91

01:21:46.000 The alcohol gets you drunker, too.

01:21:48.000 That's a big one.

01:21:49.000 But it's just good.

01:21:52.000 Weed's great.

01:21:53.000 It's everywhere.

01:21:57.000 Because of social media, it's becoming to a point where you just can't deny it.

01:22:03.000 I thought we were already there.

01:22:04.000 We're very close to it.

01:22:06.000 And as politicians get older and pushed out and younger politicians get in, the toothpaste is out of the tube.

01:22:13.000 It's not going backwards.

01:22:14.000 So, you know, for L.A. to be behind the times of the rest of the state and for California, the most progressive state in the country, to be behind the times of states like Colorado and Alaska who are making tax money.

01:22:31.000 It's the money.

01:22:32.000 The money and the politics is too intertwined.

01:22:36.000 It's part of the fabric of our society and it's broken.

01:22:39.000 Yeah, it is.

01:22:40.000 And hopefully it's going to be eventually pushed out. 0.72

01:22:44.000 But right now, you know, you have to deal with one of the most ridiculous examples of it, which is marijuana.

01:22:48.000 It's one of the most ridiculous examples of all sorts of problems that I'm sure all sorts of businesses run into all across the country that we don't consider because it doesn't play a part in our lives.

01:22:58.000 But this one does, and this one is really a nationwide freedom issue.

01:23:02.000 I mean, that's really what a lot of it's about.

01:23:04.000 It's a freedom of consciousness issue.

01:23:06.000 And people don't look at it like that.

01:23:08.000 They look at it like it's law enforcement, it's this, it's crime, it's this, it's children, it's this.

01:23:13.000 No, it's not what it is.

01:23:15.000 It's a freedom of social consciousness.

01:23:19.000 It's a freedom of being able to express yourself and a freedom of being able to intoxicate yourself with a natural plant and then what comes out of that.

01:23:30.000 And that's what everybody was worried about more than anything in like the 1970s.

01:23:34.000 What they were worried about in the 60s and the 70s is what was coming out of this.

01:23:38.000 They weren't worried about the consequences of taking this drug.

01:23:41.000 They were worried about what's coming out of this. 0.98

01:23:43.000 You're getting all these people that just won't tolerate all the usual standard shit because they're constantly resetting themselves and then reconsidering their environment. 0.97

01:23:51.000 And they're coming out with this whole new movement of people, like all the Haight-Ashbury shit in the 60s and all the music of the time. 0.97

01:24:00.000 So much of that had to do with pot and so much of that had to do with LSD. They were just terrified of that shit. 1.00

01:24:06.000 They were. 1.00

01:24:07.000 When we talk about the war on drugs and people, like, blame Nancy Reagan, that started with Nixon, you know, in the late 60s, early 70s.

01:24:14.000 Well, now the new stuff has come out, I'm sure you've seen it, where they're saying that the Nixon administration purposely targeted marijuana because they were really going after the civil rights leaders and the people that were anti-war movement.

01:24:25.000 Yes.

01:24:25.000 So they would arrest them through pot, and that would be the back door to just break up these organizations, and that this was a strategy they had.

01:24:32.000 To the point that they asked universities to pull cannabis information that was positive.

01:24:38.000 I mean, that's...

01:24:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:24:41.000 They funded studies trying to find things wrong with pot, and all they found was good shit. 1.00

01:24:45.000 Right. 0.96

01:24:46.000 The Donald Tashkin study is one that I love, where that study was to find the connection between lung cancer and smoking cannabis, and it turned out he could find no connection and actually showed that there could be a protective effect of cannabis.

01:24:58.000 That's how I'm still alive.

01:25:00.000 Maybe a lot of people like you that smoke cigarettes and smoke pot might actually even it.

01:25:05.000 Yeah, start at the same time.

01:25:06.000 You know, I have a patient with double lung transplant.

01:25:12.000 He had fibromyalgia.

01:25:17.000 So he has double lung transplant.

01:25:19.000 We were doing an interview with a magazine, and I had him there, and he showed, I take these 45 pills a day for what I have, or I could eat these three edibles.

01:25:33.000 And he's like, 45 pills a day, it's crazy just trying to swallow them.

01:25:38.000 But he said, these cost me thousands of dollars.

01:25:42.000 However, I don't pay for them.

01:25:44.000 Because it's paid by insurance.

01:25:46.000 These, I pay almost $45, $50 a day in edibles, and I could just eat those instead.

01:25:53.000 However, none of this is paid for, and I don't have the money to pay $50 a day for my medication.

01:25:59.000 So he's one of the patients that we help out with free product.

01:26:03.000 And, you know, because...

01:26:06.000 He can't afford to live.

01:26:09.000 It's the pharmaceutical side of this conversation.

01:26:12.000 It's a whole other side of it.

01:26:14.000 It's very nice of you to give that to him, by the way. 0.98

01:26:16.000 But hearing that he's eating $45 worth of edibles a day makes me want to shit my pants. 0.80

01:26:21.000 I was like, what kind of a tornado of consciousness is this guy flying around in all day? 0.91

01:26:26.000 How many milligrams are we talking?

01:26:27.000 For 45 bucks worth of weed? 1.00

01:26:30.000 How many milligrams is this motherfucker taking in? 1.00

01:26:32.000 Dude, you have no lungs. 1.00

01:26:35.000 You take whatever you need to do to get through that day.

01:26:38.000 Yeah, no, for sure.

01:26:39.000 But I'm thinking $45 worth of Chiba Chews would put you in another dimension.

01:26:43.000 Right?

01:26:44.000 Come on, son. 1.00

01:26:45.000 There's a shit hacky sack. 0.99

01:26:47.000 You know, we're talking somewhere around 500 milligrams a day. 0.99

01:26:52.000 So it's not tremendous.

01:26:54.000 I mean, I've seen Joey Diaz a thousand at a time.

01:26:57.000 Right.

01:26:57.000 That's insane.

01:26:58.000 But if he's getting Chibichus, like Chibichus, which are like a really potent and easy way to get them, 45 bucks is not 500 milligrams.

01:27:07.000 You can get one 500 milligram one for a lot less than that, right?

01:27:10.000 For 10, 15 bucks.

01:27:12.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:27:12.000 So if this guy's spending 45 bucks and he's buying the good shit, Jesus Louisa's. 0.99

01:27:17.000 He might be on a five, five hundred milligram Chibichu a day diet. 0.98

01:27:21.000 I want to meet this dude and shake his hand.

01:27:23.000 He's a pioneer.

01:27:24.000 He's a pioneer.

01:27:25.000 I can't live in that world.

01:27:26.000 That's a good man.

01:27:28.000 That's a lot of sugar, probably, also.

01:27:29.000 Ah, whatever. 1.00

01:27:30.000 Don't be a pussy. 1.00

01:27:31.000 All of a sudden, you're worried about sugar? 1.00

01:27:34.000 This fucking guy's living in an alternate dimension. 1.00

01:27:36.000 He's looking at us through a fucking aquarium window. 1.00

01:27:40.000 He's not even here. 0.99

01:27:42.000 If he's eating that much pot, you're talking about that many milligrams, and then it's getting processed, so you've got to think about it way stronger than just smoking it, right?

01:27:52.000 It is.

01:27:52.000 I mean, I had a bad edible strip, and I went five years without even touching it.

01:27:57.000 Even though we had him on the menu, I was like, dude, I don't even want to smell one of those Tootsie Rolls or whatever the hell it is.

01:28:01.000 I don't want nothing to do with it.

01:28:03.000 Because I was in another place for like two days high.

01:28:06.000 Yeah.

01:28:07.000 Just going, when is it going to end?

01:28:09.000 I mean, we started as an edibles company before we were Speedweed.

01:28:13.000 And we were the first company to do gummy bears.

01:28:18.000 And when we were making them, my brother is my partner with his wife Jen also.

01:28:26.000 AJ figured out a way to extract THC from weed.

01:28:31.000 This is six years ago before anyone was doing it.

01:28:34.000 Because we had a failed crop.

01:28:37.000 Because when I moved to California, we got our cards.

01:28:40.000 I said, I'm just going to throw up a grow.

01:28:42.000 And now I'm allowed to grow here.

01:28:44.000 I'll make a few...

01:28:45.000 Grow up or grow?

01:28:46.000 I've never heard that. 1.00

01:28:47.000 I need to start saying shit like that. 0.99

01:28:49.000 Get together with my friends. 1.00

01:28:50.000 Wait!

01:28:50.000 So AJ said, that's great.

01:28:53.000 Where are we going to do it?

01:28:53.000 I said, I'm going to do it in your living room.

01:28:56.000 So I took over his living room with tents and I put up a grow in it.

01:29:00.000 And since I was going back and forth to New York selling my house every two weeks, he was watching it while I was gone.

01:29:07.000 It was a disaster.

01:29:08.000 It was the worst experience growing up.

01:29:12.000 With all of our money, and I'm on the phone with Gino going, you know, the leaves are yellow.

01:29:17.000 He's like, alright, are the veins red?

01:29:18.000 I'm like, I don't know what we're talking about.

01:29:20.000 It needs more nitrogen. 1.00

01:29:21.000 You're an irresponsible motherfucker. 1.00

01:29:22.000 You can't just leave this due with your plants. 1.00

01:29:24.000 No, he's like, go get more nitrogen.

01:29:26.000 Watch my baby for me.

01:29:28.000 Take my baby. 0.88

01:29:29.000 Just feed it when it cries.

01:29:30.000 Gotta go.

01:29:32.000 I got back from a trip late into my growth cycle, and I open it up, and you see webs.

01:29:40.000 Well, those aren't spiders.

01:29:41.000 Those are spider mites. 0.91

01:29:42.000 And that's the worst thing you could ever, ever get.

01:29:45.000 I grew in Ohio.

01:29:46.000 Lost my whole entire crop.

01:29:47.000 Spent, like, months growing this.

01:29:49.000 Scared of helicopters with the heat-seeking thing.

01:29:52.000 And, yeah, mites destroyed.

01:29:53.000 All our money was sunk into this, you know, all of four months' time to make it happen, and I was just defeated.

01:30:02.000 I was like, I can't believe it.

01:30:03.000 What are we going to do?

01:30:04.000 And so we had to fight it, to fight those spider mites.

01:30:07.000 We did everything we could, including buying 10,000 ladybugs, which eat these things, and releasing them in this tent a foot from where I'm sleeping on his couch.

01:30:16.000 I bought them on Amazon.

01:30:17.000 I bought like a zillion ladybugs on Amazon, and we just released them into my living room.

01:30:22.000 Yeah, we buy them all the time.

01:30:23.000 Seriously?

01:30:24.000 I didn't even do.

01:30:26.000 They have a bunch of different plants that I grow, so we buy ladybugs.

01:30:28.000 Yeah, and they worked, but they didn't exactly work fast enough, and they were dying because we had CO2, and so we had to get predator mites, which were other little creepy-crawly things that we had to release right where I was sleeping.

01:30:41.000 Jurassic Park.

01:30:42.000 It was.

01:30:43.000 It's exactly what it was. 0.99

01:30:45.000 Seriously, if you could look at it under a microscope, it would be like some sort of a fucking Starship Troopers. 0.99

01:30:51.000 That's what it was. 0.98

01:30:53.000 Lord of the Rings.

01:30:54.000 Things were flying down, eating each other.

01:30:56.000 Things were climbing up.

01:30:57.000 And so what happened?

01:30:58.000 What's the long story?

01:30:59.000 So we got rid of them and had bad weed.

01:31:02.000 We extracted it.

01:31:04.000 AJ read some papers online.

01:31:05.000 We extracted it.

01:31:06.000 I said, what are we going to do with this?

01:31:07.000 And we said, all right, let's make some edibles.

01:31:09.000 So his wife... 1.00

01:31:10.000 So hold on.

01:31:11.000 Whew.

01:31:12.000 It's bad weed.

01:31:13.000 Bad weed.

01:31:14.000 Couldn't sell it anywhere.

01:31:14.000 So you can't sell it.

01:31:15.000 Because you can't smoke it.

01:31:16.000 Yeah.

01:31:16.000 But you can still turn it into edibles?

01:31:18.000 It looked like shit out of a litter box. 1.00

01:31:20.000 It was garbage. 1.00

01:31:21.000 Benchino's like, fuck it, I'm smoking it. 1.00

01:31:23.000 But I'm confused. 0.99

01:31:24.000 Explain, like, why did it look bad?

01:31:25.000 Because the mites chewed it up? 0.98

01:31:27.000 Like, what?

01:31:28.000 Yeah.

01:31:29.000 Ladybug wings.

01:31:31.000 Here's the thing.

01:31:32.000 Really?

01:31:33.000 Yeah.

01:31:33.000 So there's also things called neem oil, which is a natural pesticide that also helps in killing these things.

01:31:40.000 However, in a growth cycle, you shouldn't use it near the end because then it's going to be on the flowers that you have to smoke.

01:31:47.000 However, if you extract the THC out of it, it's no longer on that plant material.

01:31:51.000 You're getting rid of the plant material.

01:31:53.000 The neem oil that's on it won't translate into an extraction.

01:31:57.000 Oh, okay.

01:31:57.000 So you used the pesticide, unfortunately, late in the cycle, and it made the pot bad to smoke, but you could still extract the THC from it.

01:32:04.000 Right.

01:32:05.000 It's a natural oil.

01:32:06.000 It works as a pesticide.

01:32:08.000 I was so baffled.

01:32:09.000 I was like, how is it bad weed and then it's good weed?

01:32:13.000 Bad weed, good gummy bears.

01:32:15.000 What is the process of extracting THC from the flowers?

01:32:20.000 It's like Breaking Bad.

01:32:22.000 Is it?

01:32:23.000 Yeah, my kitchen looked like a meth lab for like three months.

01:32:26.000 It's crazy.

01:32:26.000 We had a sock slid extractor.

01:32:27.000 So have you done this before?

01:32:29.000 Were you experimenting?

01:32:30.000 Did you watch a YouTube video?

01:32:31.000 I had no idea it even existed.

01:32:33.000 I found a paper from like 1976, a UCLA scientist, that multi-solvent extraction of cannabinoids.

01:32:40.000 You can find it online.

01:32:41.000 And it was like, this is a how-to manual on how to do extraction.

01:32:45.000 Okay, hold on.

01:32:45.000 Neither one of you guys are scientists.

01:32:46.000 Yeah.

01:32:47.000 We were technology guys.

01:32:49.000 You're not a scientist, right?

01:32:50.000 No, I'm techie.

01:32:54.000 I'm good at homework.

01:32:55.000 Had you ever done any chemical work like that, using solvents and extracting elements from plants?

01:33:02.000 Not professionally.

01:33:04.000 AJ's humble.

01:33:05.000 He's a member of Mensa.

01:33:07.000 I got very blessed to have a brother who's Very intelligent.

01:33:14.000 So I was just defeated.

01:33:16.000 I got a bad crop.

01:33:18.000 I wasted all our money.

01:33:19.000 I wasted our time.

01:33:20.000 He turned So did you practice or did you just dive right in?

01:33:33.000 How did you do this?

01:33:34.000 It was like a six-week R&D process.

01:33:36.000 So we did the extraction through with all kinds of different chemicals.

01:33:41.000 Ultimately ethanol worked really well.

01:33:43.000 And then every night at 11, I would give Gino a dose, like on a cookie or something at 11, and then I would wait 45 minutes.

01:33:50.000 Did you have him locked up in your basement, too?

01:33:51.000 He was in my...

01:33:52.000 Pretty much.

01:33:53.000 Every night, I would give him a little gift.

01:33:55.000 Give Gino food.

01:33:56.000 It rubs the lotion on his skin.

01:33:58.000 Every night.

01:33:59.000 And then finally, one day, I give Gino the dose.

01:34:02.000 11.45, I say, how are you feeling?

01:34:04.000 He goes, I don't think it's working.

01:34:05.000 I was like, boom, that's it.

01:34:06.000 That's the recipe, and it's in my journal.

01:34:08.000 And that was kind of how...

01:34:10.000 We got into the industry with that extraction process, that recipe that day.

01:34:14.000 Now, I've always wondered like this, when you use all those chemicals and you extract something from a plant, are those chemicals in any way, is there a residue on the extraction?

01:34:24.000 Depends.

01:34:25.000 We were using ethanol, which is alcohol, but then we were making candy, which burns off the alcohol.

01:34:30.000 So there's no alcohol in the candy, but now you have the THC. Which is inside the candy.

01:34:36.000 And now we were decarboxylating the flower before anybody was doing that.

01:34:42.000 And what that means is you activate the flower.

01:34:45.000 Like you can't just take bud and eat it and get stoned.

01:34:47.000 It won't work.

01:34:48.000 Why is that?

01:34:50.000 Something fat soluble?

01:34:52.000 Yes.

01:34:52.000 You need to convert it to THC acid.

01:34:54.000 So you do that with heat.

01:34:55.000 So you smoke it.

01:34:56.000 Or you do that with fat, like lipids.

01:34:58.000 You boil it in butter, make brownies. 0.99

01:35:01.000 How the fuck did people figure that out? 0.98

01:35:03.000 It's brilliant. 0.99

01:35:04.000 It's genius.

01:35:05.000 Or you could do it with alcohol.

01:35:06.000 And that's ultimately what we use, this alcohol extract.

01:35:09.000 Butane works as well. 0.94

01:35:10.000 What I mean is, how the fuck did people figure out that you had to burn it in order to use it? 0.94

01:35:14.000 Because they're probably eating it long before they knew it could get you high. 0.98

01:35:18.000 Well, I mean, civilization's amazing.

01:35:21.000 Like, how do they figure out if we eat this root, ayahuasca works, but otherwise it doesn't?

01:35:26.000 You know?

01:35:27.000 The trees told us.

01:35:31.000 That's probably true.

01:35:32.000 They use tobacco in those ayahuasca rituals, apparently.

01:35:35.000 Right before you go under, they blow tobacco smoke on your face.

01:35:40.000 Oh, just to get you ready to vomit?

01:35:41.000 Yeah, well, I don't even know if it's that.

01:35:43.000 I think it's the stimulating effect of the nicotine.

01:35:45.000 It has some sort of a kickstart.

01:35:47.000 Like Terrence McKenna, when he would take mushrooms, what he would do is he would take them and then he would wait.

01:35:52.000 They'd kick in like an hour or so.

01:35:54.000 So while he was waiting for them to kick in, he would just roll joints. 0.99

01:35:57.000 This motherfucker would roll joints for an hour. 1.00

01:36:01.000 And then... 1.00

01:36:02.000 And then start going.

01:36:04.000 Start going.

01:36:05.000 And when the pot really kicked in, like when he would get really, really high, that would be right when the mushrooms would come in like a giant tidal wave.

01:36:12.000 And he said he could see it coming.

01:36:15.000 He could see it coming.

01:36:16.000 You could feel it in the ground.

01:36:18.000 And it seemed like there's no way no one else is experiencing this.

01:36:21.000 It's just like this gigantic wave is coming and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

01:36:27.000 And that's how he would do it.

01:36:28.000 So he would use marijuana smoke to sort of instigate the mushroom experience.

01:36:33.000 Which totally makes sense.

01:36:34.000 It does.

01:36:34.000 But that's a warrior.

01:36:36.000 That will do that kind of experimentation.

01:36:38.000 That dude went deep.

01:36:40.000 He went deep.

01:36:41.000 Maybe too much.

01:36:42.000 He died of a brain cancer.

01:36:43.000 A brain tumor.

01:36:46.000 I mean, who knows if that was hereditary.

01:36:48.000 Who knows if that was...

01:36:50.000 Is it related in any way to expanding consciousness or attempting to expand consciousness through drugs?

01:36:56.000 Most likely not.

01:36:57.000 But he was really critical of the idea that marijuana was a cure for cancer because he was like, look, I am telling you, I have cancer and I smoke pot all day, constantly.

01:37:06.000 He's like, I am your poster boy because if it was something that cured cancer, I would not have cancer because you cannot smoke more pot than me.

01:37:14.000 McKenna was just high all day. 1.00

01:37:16.000 Right.

01:37:17.000 But there's so many different cancers and so many different types of weed.

01:37:20.000 Who knows what's what?

01:37:21.000 We've got to research it.

01:37:22.000 Well, I think what's really supposed to be the most effective, and Gino, you helped my friend when his mom had an issue with this, and this is something about Gino, who'd never advertised himself, but he hooked my friend up with a lot of this cannabis oil,

01:37:37.000 which is really expensive stuff, and you did it just to help his mom, or just to help his dad, rather.

01:37:44.000 Well, he was a good dude.

01:37:45.000 And, you know, we were talking about stage 4 cancer at that point, so there wasn't much ever hope that it was going to turn around and cure it.

01:37:58.000 However, to ease the last few months of life was working and happening.

01:38:05.000 There was a lot more quality of life, which...

01:38:10.000 For the patient, that was great, number one.

01:38:13.000 The absolute utmost importance.

01:38:15.000 But also for our friend that we're talking about, it was great for him because he got the last few months of life together with his loved one in a better way, not in a comatose setting, which he was dealing with for a while before we got on the Rick Simpson oil regimen.

01:38:37.000 Well, it definitely needs to be investigated because there's so many people that have had beneficial effects from it.

01:38:43.000 It just seems insane to not have some large-scale scientific research being done right now.

01:38:48.000 Like, just humanity as a whole, we kind of owe it to each other.

01:38:52.000 You're not thinking about it right now because your loved ones don't have cancer, but if this turns out to be really legit, this could be another reason why we need to reconsider this whole ban on the legal sale federally of marijuana. 0.83

01:39:04.000 It's ridiculous.

01:39:05.000 If it can do this, If you're really taking this oil and you're reducing tumors, which has been reported in just a shitload of people, including friends of mine. 0.88

01:39:15.000 I know people that have had cancer and had their cancer reduced by taking cannabis oil.

01:39:19.000 And I know people whose parents had it and got their tumors reduced because of it.

01:39:24.000 And autistic kids, like the seizures and stuff like that. 0.95

01:39:27.000 Like our friend whose kid was going from like, I mean, he was having seizures all day.

01:39:31.000 He takes the stuff he hasn't had a seizure in six months.

01:39:33.000 Sure.

01:39:33.000 You look at Jaden and Charlotte and all these kids, how can you tell the parents no?

01:39:40.000 Exactly.

01:39:40.000 No matter what state you're in, how can you tell a parent no?

01:39:42.000 And I think that's when your politics changes, when it affects you personally.

01:39:45.000 It definitely happens.

01:39:47.000 It definitely happens.

01:39:47.000 And I've seen quite a few stories of that, of people that have children that had, you know, serious seizure issues.

01:39:52.000 And as soon as they got them on the medical marijuana, it just stopped.

01:39:56.000 And we have a lot of really bad prejudices about marijuana, you know, and we need to expose them as a society because they're holding a lot of people back.

01:40:05.000 I know they held me back. 1.00

01:40:06.000 They made me, until I was 30 years old, I thought pot was for idiots. 1.00

01:40:10.000 It really did. 1.00

01:40:11.000 A lot of people do. 1.00

01:40:12.000 And it's important to let them know, not only is it not for idiots, it's a tool. 1.00

01:40:18.000 You can use it. 1.00

01:40:20.000 It can benefit you.

01:40:21.000 This is not a benign substance.

01:40:23.000 It's slippery.

01:40:25.000 Like all other psychoactive substances, if you are on the wrong path mentally, you could go off the deep end with it.

01:40:32.000 Like everything else.

01:40:33.000 Like alcohol or anything else.

01:40:35.000 You see someone who I respect a lot, like Graham Hancock, who you had on the show a lot.

01:40:41.000 He was a high, heavy user.

01:40:43.000 And he got to a point where he said, you know what?

01:40:47.000 My relationship is not good with marijuana anymore.

01:40:50.000 And he took a long break.

01:40:52.000 I think two to three years.

01:40:54.000 He took a long break.

01:40:56.000 And then said, you know what?

01:40:57.000 Things have changed in my life now.

01:40:59.000 I think I could go back and have that relationship start again.

01:41:03.000 And...

01:41:03.000 From what I understand, mostly from the podcast, from him being on the podcast last time, he is now in a better relationship with marijuana.

01:41:16.000 Yeah, he was in an abusive relationship with himself, and marijuana was just playing a factor in that.

01:41:21.000 Sure.

01:41:21.000 I'm the one who got him high.

01:41:23.000 I got him high on the show when he was two or three years sober.

01:41:27.000 I'm like, dude, you're fine.

01:41:29.000 Just come on.

01:41:30.000 Yeah, you're the smartest dude ever.

01:41:32.000 He loved it.

01:41:33.000 And he opened up when I gave it to him.

01:41:36.000 Oh my god, he opened up like a flower.

01:41:37.000 He took one hit and then he relaxed and he was smiling and laughing and we were having a good time.

01:41:42.000 And he went on this rant.

01:41:44.000 Oh my god, this epic rant.

01:41:47.000 Epic rant.

01:41:48.000 And I remember thinking like, wow, that had to be cannabis inspired because it was so like emotionally connected to him.

01:41:55.000 It was essentially like sort of validating his life work because he was really heavily criticized many, many times where people just completely ignored any of the potentially positive aspects of what he was saying.

01:42:10.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:42:10.000 And just was trying to shit on all these theories. 0.96

01:42:13.000 But as time has gone on, it's been more and more apparent that he was right the whole time. 0.98

01:42:19.000 About all different things that he studies.

01:42:21.000 Yeah.

01:42:21.000 Well, the big one being that civilizations have experienced many different eras and that what we're looking at when we look back thousands and thousands of years is the most latest of eras.

01:42:33.000 But there was potentially very advanced civilizations that had a different kind of advancement 10,000, 15,000 years, maybe even as many as 30,000 years ago.

01:42:43.000 And that there's evidence of this stuff.

01:42:45.000 There's evidence in the construction of the Old Kingdom in Egypt.

01:42:48.000 There's evidence when they start looking at certain erosion patterns on the Sphinx, the Sphinx compound.

01:42:54.000 They're talking about...

01:42:55.000 Something that was built 14,000 years ago plus so all these different new discoveries that they're having when they're having these new they find these new things that are like for they found evidence of North Americans in Native Americans in North America at 14,000 years ago which pushes it way back before they thought it was it found like woolly mammoth bones with cuts on them and yeah super recently so this stuff keeps happening over and over again and they keep discovering These structures, 0.52

01:43:22.000 and they find things underwater, they find sunken cities and shit.

01:43:26.000 Gobekli Tepe in Turkey. 0.97

01:43:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:43:28.000 And you can't carbon date stone.

01:43:30.000 Well, that's why Gobekli Tepe is so unique, because they know that it was covered up somewhere around 12,000 years ago.

01:43:37.000 Purposely.

01:43:38.000 Yeah, that someone constructed this thing sometime before that.

01:43:42.000 You know, they get a vague idea within a thousand years of when this thing was built.

01:43:46.000 And it was built when they thought people were hunter-gatherers.

01:43:48.000 So this is all stuff that Hancock had already been saying.

01:43:50.000 So to see him get high and just expand upon that and see, like, this is a guy that, like, he's been ridiculed.

01:43:56.000 He's been dragged through the mud.

01:43:58.000 People have taken what he said out of context and tried to use it against him. 0.98

01:44:02.000 They've had these really biased opinions about his work and they've made little specials about it, just shitting on him.

01:44:09.000 And it turns out he was right about a lot of things.

01:44:11.000 And he's just gathering evidence and making his thoughts and processes on everything.

01:44:17.000 On evidence.

01:44:18.000 And he's a really good guy.

01:44:19.000 Like, he doesn't deserve any of that.

01:44:21.000 He's not a bad guy.

01:44:23.000 Like, he's a really good guy that's taking a chance, that's exploring this really important subject, this idea that we've been here many times.

01:44:32.000 I can remember reading Magicians, maybe it was Magicians of the Gods, or Fingerprints, the first one thinking...

01:44:38.000 I think it's Footprints of the Gods, right?

01:44:39.000 Was it Fingerprints?

01:44:40.000 No, Fingerprints.

01:44:41.000 Thinking, thank God there's a dude out there.

01:44:44.000 I didn't know who he was at the time.

01:44:45.000 Thank God there's someone doing this work.

01:44:47.000 Because I had never heard of any of this before I read that book.

01:44:50.000 Well, there's been a bunch of similar theorists in the past, but they always connected it to aliens, specifically.

01:44:58.000 Zachariah Hitchens.

01:44:59.000 Sitchin.

01:45:00.000 Sitchin stuff. 0.98

01:45:01.000 Yeah, well, he was going to bring up that guy from the Chariots of the Gods. 0.99

01:45:04.000 What the fuck is that guy's name? 0.95

01:45:07.000 There was a dude, Von Daniken. 0.99

01:45:10.000 Yeah, Von Daniken.

01:45:10.000 Yeah, Von Daniken, who wrote Chariots of the Gods.

01:45:13.000 And, uh, Chariots of the Gods was like a movie.

01:45:15.000 They made a documentary movie about it that played in, like, the movie theaters.

01:45:18.000 I remember when I was a kid, it was playing in the movie theaters, and I was freaking out, like, and people would leave there, they'd go, oh my god, there's aliens, they visited us. 0.98

01:45:26.000 Like, that movie, if you watch that movie and you smoke pot and you're young, it will have you fucking convinced. 0.99

01:45:31.000 You'll be fucking convinced. 1.00

01:45:33.000 100%. 0.98

01:45:34.000 I feel like I was convinced, and it's a lot of Graham Hancock who unconvinced me, because a lot of people think he's part of the ancient aliens theorists, but he's not really.

01:45:45.000 He just feels that we have lost technology.

01:45:49.000 Well, he leaves the door open.

01:45:51.000 We've had conversations about it.

01:45:52.000 He leaves the door open for visitation.

01:45:55.000 He leaves the door open for that being a possibility, as do I, as I think everybody should. 0.58

01:46:00.000 A unique moment where an alien spacecraft came down and ran into 14th century Europeans and fucked with them and kidnapped a few and did some scientific experiments on some and erased their memories. 0.86

01:46:15.000 Of course that could happen.

01:46:16.000 I mean, if we can go to Mars, we can send a robot to zoom around on Mars and we watch it on our iPhone.

01:46:21.000 We can do that right now. 1.00

01:46:23.000 We're idiots. 1.00

01:46:24.000 We can't even make pot legal. 1.00

01:46:25.000 We've got a robot moving around on Mars.

01:46:27.000 The idea that there's something out there, there's no way.

01:46:30.000 No one's smarter than us, dude.

01:46:31.000 It can't happen.

01:46:32.000 Of course there could be.

01:46:34.000 If we stay alive for a thousand years, our technology is going to be unrecognizable.

01:46:38.000 It's going to be so beyond anything we could possibly imagine today.

01:46:42.000 Just look at how far it's come since we were kids growing up in the 80s.

01:46:45.000 These things that we see, these things that everybody sees, these iconic gray creatures with the big black eyes, those could be drones.

01:46:53.000 A hundred percent.

01:46:55.000 I mean, those could be artificially intelligent creatures that some super advanced civilization has created to gather up information on people.

01:47:03.000 That's totally possible.

01:47:04.000 And that would make it so much easier for them to defy the laws of physics, defy the laws, not the laws of physics, but the laws of space travel, like with human beings being unable to withstand the kind of pressure that it would require to go light speed and shit like that. 0.98

01:47:23.000 If these things are some fucking weird robot creation that lives off of a lithium-ion battery it's got in its dick, that thing might be able to go forever. 0.97

01:47:34.000 Radiation might not bother it. 1.00

01:47:35.000 You might be able to shoot it into a fucking black hole and it comes out the other side. 1.00

01:47:39.000 I mean, who knows what the fuck they can do a million years from now. 1.00

01:47:43.000 Right, because an avatar is just a robot. 0.98

01:47:45.000 Yeah.

01:47:46.000 We all know robots at this point can be controlled from a remote control.

01:47:51.000 It just depends.

01:47:52.000 How far away is that remote control?

01:47:53.000 You know, where is that remote control? 0.99

01:47:55.000 So the chariots of the gods guy and even the ancient aliens guys, who the fuck knows? 0.97

01:48:01.000 There might have been a bunch of visitors. 0.96

01:48:03.000 It's very possible.

01:48:04.000 It's super possible.

01:48:06.000 If we can do it, of course something out there that's smarter than us can do it better than we could.

01:48:11.000 For sure.

01:48:11.000 Of course.

01:48:12.000 But...

01:48:13.000 What Graham Hancock is proposing is much more likely, because it's backed by actual science.

01:48:17.000 And now that he's joined efforts with that Randall Carlson guy, and Randall Carlson, who's an expert on asteroidal impacts, The history of them in North America, in the world.

01:48:28.000 I mean, he's a wizard when it comes to that stuff.

01:48:30.000 And he can just quote it off the top of his head, all these different impact sites that they found.

01:48:34.000 And you realize, like, oh, Jesus, we get hit all the time.

01:48:37.000 And not only do we get hit all the time, there's evidence of a massive meteor shower impacting Asia and Europe.

01:48:44.000 Somewhere around 10,000 plus years ago.

01:48:47.000 Which coincides with the civilization that they're talking about.

01:48:51.000 Yeah. 0.90

01:48:52.000 So somewhere around that era, the human race got fucking basically half wiped out. 0.92

01:48:57.000 Yeah. 0.94

01:48:58.000 And we had to rebuild.

01:48:59.000 And we don't remember.

01:49:00.000 We didn't have...

01:49:01.000 There's no electronics back then.

01:49:03.000 So there's no, like, computers that we could look at.

01:49:05.000 There's no photos.

01:49:06.000 They didn't have photographs.

01:49:07.000 They were just basing on people's memories and things that they could draw.

01:49:11.000 I mean, as far as we know, they didn't have any cameras.

01:49:13.000 I mean, who knows?

01:49:14.000 I mean, all that stuff, if you had a camera and you left it on the ground for a thousand years, there'd be nothing left in a hundred.

01:49:21.000 It would all go away.

01:49:22.000 They had batteries back then.

01:49:23.000 They had something like a battery.

01:49:25.000 They did.

01:49:25.000 Yeah, and they found that in one of the Egyptian tombs.

01:49:28.000 They found it in Iraq, too.

01:49:29.000 Yeah, the little copper in the clay.

01:49:31.000 They probably had some kind of computer or electronics that just doesn't exist anymore.

01:49:35.000 Well, not only that, the people who made that battery, they're pretty sure that was 2,500 BC. So that was way later than this impact they're talking about, this 11,000-whatever-it-was-year impact.

01:49:47.000 They think that there's been a series of these all throughout history.

01:49:51.000 And this is something that's supported by even mainstream science when they're talking about supervolcanoes. 0.53

01:49:56.000 There's this one supervolcano—we've looked this up three fucking times, and I can never remember this goddamn Gino L.A. Speedweed bullshit— But there's a supervolcano that erupted 70,000 years ago and killed almost everyone on the planet except for a couple thousand people.

01:50:13.000 And we all descend from those few thousand people that survived some massive supervolcano impact. 0.96

01:50:20.000 This is a really openly accepted theory in mainstream archaeology and anthropology.

01:50:27.000 They really believe that this is one of the possibly one of the big disaster extinction events that happened to human beings.

01:50:34.000 There's been several of them.

01:50:36.000 Right.

01:50:36.000 I know what you're talking about.

01:50:37.000 That's something that caused like three or four years of an equivalent of a nuclear winter.

01:50:41.000 Yeah.

01:50:41.000 Well, here, look at it this way.

01:50:42.000 You remember Mount St. Helens when we were kids?

01:50:44.000 Mm-hmm.

01:50:44.000 Remember that?

01:50:45.000 Mm-hmm.

01:50:45.000 Nobody talks about that.

01:50:47.000 Nobody even thinks about that anymore. 0.99

01:50:48.000 When we were kids, a fucking volcano in Washington State erupted and people died. 0.99

01:50:53.000 They got lava-ed, right? 1.00

01:50:56.000 They got smoked by a volcano.

01:50:59.000 Ash for months in the atmosphere.

01:51:01.000 Oh, ash for months.

01:51:01.000 And it just conveniently goes away.

01:51:03.000 That was a little baby volcano. 0.98

01:51:05.000 I mean, obviously, no disrespect to anybody who died.

01:51:08.000 Right.

01:51:08.000 But in comparison to what Yellowstone has, Yellowstone has a super volcano that's 600 miles wide?

01:51:15.000 Something fucking crazy like that?

01:51:18.000 That's still, you know, they don't call it active, that volcano, but it's still bubbling. 0.99

01:51:25.000 Well, they have thousands of earthquakes every year.

01:51:27.000 Thousands. 0.99

01:51:28.000 So you know shit's going on down there. 0.99

01:51:30.000 Like geysers are shooting out boiling water and the sulfur content in the water is crazy. 0.99

01:51:36.000 Yeah.

01:51:36.000 Maybe it's 600 kilometers.

01:51:38.000 600 kilometers, like 300 miles.

01:51:40.000 Whatever it is, it's so big that it's a continent killer.

01:51:43.000 Right. 1.00

01:51:43.000 They're like, when that thing blows, everything near it is dead as fuck. 1.00

01:51:47.000 What it is is what they call a caldera, which means that it's a volcano that was so big, the top blew off of it. 0.96

01:51:54.000 And then you're left with this big crater.

01:51:56.000 And they didn't realize that until they started using satellite images.

01:51:59.000 Once they started using, because we've known about Old Faithful, you know, it's a cool place to visit.

01:52:03.000 You go check out the geysers and stuff.

01:52:05.000 The ground is boiling, like a hundred feet below you.

01:52:10.000 This is hot lava! 1.00

01:52:11.000 And every six to eight hundred thousand years, that shit blows sky high. 1.00

01:52:16.000 And when it blows sky high, everyone's dead. 1.00

01:52:18.000 We're all dead.

01:52:19.000 We're all dead. 0.87

01:52:20.000 And California's dead. 1.00

01:52:22.000 Montana's dead as fuck. 1.00

01:52:23.000 Everything around it's just dead. 1.00

01:52:25.000 That's depressing because it really is just a matter of time before there's some impact or earthquake or volcano.

01:52:32.000 It is just a matter of time.

01:52:34.000 And what's it going to be?

01:52:35.000 Well, what Graham Hancock is exposing is that when you're talking about enormous periods of time, like 10,000 years, 12,000 years, 30,000 years, people cannot recall those natural disasters.

01:52:46.000 They lose the ability to communicate.

01:52:48.000 Sometimes they're not even using the same languages anymore.

01:52:50.000 You're dealing with thousands and thousands and thousands of years.

01:52:54.000 I mean, just think about just a few thousand years ago, Latin was like a real language.

01:52:58.000 Go try finding someone who's going to talk Latin to you. 1.00

01:53:02.000 That shit doesn't exist. 1.00

01:53:03.000 It's a dead language. 1.00

01:53:05.000 That's only a couple thousand years.

01:53:07.000 When you're talking about 30,000 years and the possibility of all these different impacts and different things happening within those 30,000 years, Like, who knows?

01:53:16.000 So what he's showing is, or what he was showing back then, was that this alternative theory is not preposterous at all.

01:53:23.000 Like, there's real good evidence that this is not going to stay like this.

01:53:29.000 Right.

01:53:29.000 Like, it's not just not preposterous.

01:53:31.000 It's probable and likely that it's just what's next.

01:53:35.000 Well, Old Faithful was called Old Faithful because it used to be Faithful and Blow at the exact time.

01:53:42.000 It doesn't do that anymore.

01:53:43.000 It's no longer on the Old Faithful type of schedule that it used to be.

01:53:49.000 So things are changing under there.

01:53:52.000 I don't like that.

01:53:52.000 It makes me nervous.

01:53:53.000 I don't like that.

01:53:53.000 And that's just in our lifetime.

01:53:54.000 When did that stop?

01:53:56.000 I only recently heard that news story that Old Faithful is not as faithful as people think.

01:54:04.000 Yeah.

01:54:05.000 Yeah, it's weird.

01:54:06.000 The geysers are hot water.

01:54:07.000 The water's boiling.

01:54:08.000 It shoots up into the sky.

01:54:09.000 And we're like, ooh!

01:54:11.000 Ah!

01:54:12.000 Well, let's get out of here before a giant furry monster eats us! 1.00

01:54:17.000 Yellowstone's crazy. 1.00

01:54:18.000 That's a crazy goddamn place, man. 1.00

01:54:20.000 Those people have grizzly bears. 1.00

01:54:22.000 Grizzly bears are there all the time.

01:54:24.000 There's a place up in, I believe it's Ojai, California, where they have these big mud pits that people go in that are real hot.

01:54:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:54:33.000 But what do you think's heating those under there?

01:54:36.000 I mean, that could also just...

01:54:39.000 I don't know.

01:54:41.000 Those hot pits are totally natural in Ojai?

01:54:43.000 Is that what it is?

01:54:44.000 As far as I know, they are.

01:54:47.000 I haven't been in them.

01:54:48.000 I have a healthy fear of them, I guess, for that reason.

01:54:52.000 Of Ojai? 0.68

01:54:53.000 Just things like that in nature that could...

01:54:59.000 Mother Nature just wants to kill us in so many ways. 1.00

01:55:03.000 Sort of.

01:55:04.000 Right now we're fine.

01:55:05.000 No need to totally freak out about it, but just the awareness that this whole thing is probably pretty fucking temporary.

01:55:12.000 Yeah, and we're in the worst state to live in.

01:55:14.000 That's so crazy to say.

01:55:16.000 I don't know why you say that.

01:55:17.000 Earthquake, volcano, we're definitely better off if we were in Toronto or something, probably.

01:55:21.000 You freeze to death in winter.

01:55:24.000 You get hit by a semi that hits black ice.

01:55:27.000 I think this is a really good state.

01:55:30.000 A lot of nice people.

01:55:31.000 More people dying of weather and natural things in every other state besides California.

01:55:37.000 Yeah, I mean, if there's an earthquake, there's going to be a few issues, for sure.

01:55:41.000 Earthquakes fuck a lot of things up, but...

01:55:43.000 Overall, man, you deal with an earthquake once every couple of decades. 0.99

01:55:47.000 You deal with winter every fucking year if you go back to Ohio. 0.98

01:55:51.000 I'm trying to keep them here. 0.99

01:55:55.000 Isn't the biggest fault line like Missouri? 1.00

01:55:59.000 That shit doesn't work, though. 1.00

01:56:00.000 That's broken. 1.00

01:56:01.000 It's like an old train station. 1.00

01:56:03.000 That shit is broken? 1.00

01:56:04.000 I don't know, man. 1.00

01:56:05.000 I mean, look, we're worried about stuff that we know about, like these spots where the earth could explode. 0.99

01:56:12.000 But there's fucking rocks in the sky that could kill everybody. 0.99

01:56:15.000 They hit all the time. 1.00

01:56:17.000 They hit every few thousand years. 0.99

01:56:19.000 So these spaces of civilization, like 10,000, 12,000 years, where they find these structures like Gobekli Tepe, and they're like, who the fuck... 0.98

01:56:28.000 Where did this? 0.97

01:56:29.000 Where's this coming from?

01:56:30.000 It's so likely that that's just a series of events.

01:56:34.000 It's like people build up, they figure out society, get things going really well, they start improving upon things, and boom!

01:56:41.000 Everybody's dead, rotting, bodies in the street, diseases, wolves, flee, head to the mountains, rebuild civilization, first fucking tribes don't make it, down to a few people, they slowly bond together, 0.94

01:56:57.000 they rebuild... 0.99

01:56:58.000 I bet that shit happens every 20,000 years or so. 0.97

01:57:00.000 One of the theories I heard on Gobekli Tepe is that since that's what happened, that there was some devastation at that point, that A theory is that they blamed it on whatever gods, and that's why Go Black to Tempe was just covered at that point. 1.00

01:57:16.000 Just hide that shit away? 0.97

01:57:18.000 Yeah, well, that makes sense. 1.00

01:57:19.000 If you were, like, a politician, you were trying to take over after the disaster, you'd be like, these motherfuckers and their statues ruined everything, and we're gonna fill it in with dirt! 1.00

01:57:28.000 Yeah! 0.99

01:57:29.000 And that would be, like, symbolic, because you can't, like, run a dope-ass city with some statues that the dude before you made. 0.79

01:57:35.000 Nope. 0.85

01:57:36.000 You gotta knock those bitches over. 1.00

01:57:37.000 We still do the same thing today. 1.00

01:57:38.000 Well, ISIS is doing it right now all throughout Asia. 1.00

01:57:41.000 They keep blowing shit up. 0.99

01:57:42.000 You know? 1.00

01:57:44.000 We yanked down Saddam, didn't we? 0.99

01:57:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:57:47.000 Tore that shit right down. 1.00

01:57:47.000 Head fell off. 1.00

01:57:48.000 Yeah.

01:57:49.000 Yeah.

01:57:50.000 That's right.

01:57:51.000 That statue.

01:57:52.000 I forgot about that.

01:57:53.000 So we all do it.

01:57:54.000 We all want to hide what was before us, because what we are is good.

01:57:58.000 What we do is right.

01:58:00.000 Right.

01:58:00.000 Especially when it comes to someone like Saddam Hussein.

01:58:03.000 Gaddafi.

01:58:03.000 Yeah.

01:58:04.000 We celebrated it when that statue went down.

01:58:07.000 Yeah, see the statue go down? 1.00

01:58:09.000 Fuck that guy. 1.00

01:58:10.000 We did. 1.00

01:58:10.000 Meanwhile, that statue's kind of history. 1.00

01:58:12.000 Like, we really shouldn't have been fucking with it. 0.79

01:58:14.000 Because, like, if you could see what Julius Caesar did, like, if you could go back and see what Nero did, like, all the atrocities that he did, you wouldn't want to see a statue of him. 0.95

01:58:23.000 But imagine if someone came along and smashed a statue of him.

01:58:26.000 You wouldn't be able to look at it today.

01:58:28.000 Like, there's something about when you go to a museum and you look at something from ancient Rome... 1.00

01:58:33.000 And you go, wow, that crazy fucker. 0.99

01:58:35.000 What was Caligula's life like? 1.00

01:58:36.000 What was this guy's life like? 1.00

01:58:38.000 You know, these people were nuts. 1.00

01:58:40.000 They were out of their fucking minds. 1.00

01:58:42.000 They were living in a crazy, crazy time of taking over the world with swords and bows and arrows and shit. 1.00

01:58:48.000 But... 1.00

01:58:50.000 Is Saddam Hussein worse than them? 1.00

01:58:52.000 No.

01:58:53.000 No, not really. 1.00

01:58:54.000 They should have taken that shit and put it in a museum somewhere. 0.99

01:58:57.000 My college had Christopher Columbus pointing at the cafeteria. 1.00

01:59:01.000 Right.

01:59:01.000 Yeah, when we were kids, he was a cool guy.

01:59:03.000 It just became something over the last decade or so, right? 1.00

01:59:07.000 That Christopher Columbus was a piece of shit. 1.00

01:59:09.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:59:10.000 Right.

01:59:10.000 You know, another thing, I believe it's from Graham Hancock, but the Iraqi Museum had a lot of material that just got wiped out during these wars that we'll never be able to get back that had to do with Ancient societies and Egypt and things like that.

01:59:30.000 So during these wars, you know, the whole place was just looted.

01:59:34.000 You know, the museum was looted.

01:59:36.000 So they lost all of those, you know, ancient treasures.

01:59:39.000 And that's a tragedy.

01:59:40.000 That's like the birth of modern civilizations like the Tigris and the Euphrates, that little valley there.

01:59:47.000 You've got to keep that.

01:59:48.000 You know, I understand the politics, but you've got to keep the history.

01:59:50.000 Leave it alone.

01:59:51.000 There's rules of war that says you can bomb anything you want, but the Colosseum in Rome, that's not cool.

01:59:56.000 You do that, we're going to talk to you in the Hague in a few years.

01:59:59.000 You know, the Great Wall of China, you guys leave that alone.

02:00:02.000 Bomb each other, but there are protected sites in the world that need to stay protected.

02:00:07.000 Isn't that weird? 0.86

02:00:08.000 Like, we decide, like, okay, look, we don't even like you, but this building's pretty dope, so we're not gonna fuck up that building.

02:00:14.000 And then I go, alright, you got it. 0.97

02:00:17.000 Like, alright, no punching in the face.

02:00:19.000 Okay, cool.

02:00:20.000 Yeah, because did they ever bomb Paris?

02:00:22.000 Did, like, the Eithyl Tower get bombed, or anywhere around Paris get bombed?

02:00:27.000 Not really.

02:00:28.000 Yeah, they just kind of stormed through there.

02:00:29.000 Because they did...

02:00:31.000 There's still, like, a lot of munition.

02:00:33.000 There's, like, this area outside of Paris in France.

02:00:36.000 It's, like, the size of Paris that you can't even go into today.

02:00:39.000 Oh, because there's still, like, ordnance buried under the ground?

02:00:42.000 Yeah, they keep finding stuff there. 0.97

02:00:43.000 They stack it up in these warehouses and shit. 0.97

02:00:46.000 It's just, like, a depository for bombs and bomb chemicals. 0.99

02:00:50.000 They all fucking either launched them out of there or they landed there or they didn't go off or... 0.97

02:00:56.000 They left behind mines and bombs. 0.98

02:00:58.000 It's like this huge area that you can't even go in.

02:01:00.000 It's all toxic.

02:01:02.000 It's the size of Paris, apparently.

02:01:06.000 So I was wondering, was there a conscious decision to not bomb?

02:01:10.000 Maybe they did, and I don't know.

02:01:12.000 I don't think they did.

02:01:13.000 I think they just kind of rolled through there. 0.99

02:01:16.000 Because, I mean, London got the shit kicked out of it. 0.97

02:01:19.000 See if you find that picture. 0.98

02:01:21.000 There's photos of the munitions where they stack them up.

02:01:23.000 It's crazy.

02:01:24.000 I got a picture of Paris getting bombed from the area.

02:01:27.000 Oh, well, there you go.

02:01:27.000 So they definitely got bombed.

02:01:28.000 Did they leave the Eiffel Tower alone?

02:01:30.000 Oh, my God.

02:01:30.000 Look at that.

02:01:31.000 Boom.

02:01:31.000 1940s.

02:01:32.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:01:34.000 Wow. 1.00

02:01:35.000 There goes our history.

02:01:36.000 Like, the Library of Alexandria got destroyed.

02:01:38.000 That was in Egypt, though.

02:01:40.000 I know, but I'm just saying...

02:01:40.000 But that was during the Muslim invasions.

02:01:41.000 Yeah, I know it was a different time period, but I was gonna ask, like that, is there something today that contains a bunch of, I don't know, history that could be destroyed and ruined?

02:01:51.000 Computers, bro.

02:01:51.000 The problem would be if the power went out for more than a couple of years, it's never coming back.

02:01:56.000 If the grid got destroyed, if something happened that was so big that it destroyed the power grid and we needed to reestablish a grid...

02:02:04.000 Good luck.

02:02:05.000 That's walking dead. 0.99

02:02:06.000 We lose 50% of the population in the impact and then, you know, when we were left with chaos and lawlessness and fucking people starving to death and no one knows what to do. 0.99

02:02:15.000 Yeah. 0.93

02:02:16.000 Good luck getting the power back on.

02:02:17.000 All it would take is one of those things.

02:02:19.000 It might take a hundred years for the power to come back on.

02:02:21.000 And that might not even be negative intent of humans.

02:02:24.000 That could happen just from the sun.

02:02:26.000 Sure.

02:02:26.000 An EMP. We don't know.

02:02:28.000 Right.

02:02:28.000 We haven't had electric long enough.

02:02:30.000 We might have had an EMP... What's an EMP? Explain it to people.

02:02:36.000 Electromagnetic pulse, which would take out all of the electricity.

02:02:38.000 I like how you just say EMP. We're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, EMP. We sit around and talk about those all the time.

02:02:43.000 No, it is, dawg. 1.00

02:02:44.000 The magnetic pulse is a motherfucker. 0.99

02:02:47.000 But they've tried to make EMP weapons that'll take out a full grid. 0.99

02:02:54.000 But the sun could produce that.

02:02:56.000 So if the sun did that, it could have been done in history.

02:02:59.000 We just didn't have electric.

02:03:01.000 There's evidence of an EMP or a solar flare that hit sometime in the 19th century.

02:03:07.000 And we only know about it because a telegraph went down.

02:03:10.000 All the telegraphs in America went down for like two days.

02:03:12.000 And everyone's like, what happened?

02:03:14.000 And then a couple days later, everything worked again.

02:03:17.000 And scientists think that it was a solar flare or an ejection that caused the EMP and just shut down all the power for a few days here.

02:03:25.000 It would be walking dead if it happened now.

02:03:28.000 It's so crazy that we rely on that thing to stay stable.

02:03:32.000 This giant ball of nuclear power that's floating in the sky, it's a million times bigger than the Earth, and we count on it to stay stable.

02:03:41.000 We do. 0.99

02:03:42.000 What the fuck? 1.00

02:03:43.000 Solar flares still happen a lot, though. 1.00

02:03:46.000 They do, yeah.

02:03:46.000 Recently, there was something that knocked something out from a solar flare.

02:03:50.000 Yeah, but the sun has been weird lately.

02:03:52.000 It's been really, really dark and strange with not a lot of activity.

02:03:55.000 Someone smokes too much pot.

02:03:57.000 The sun's been dark and strange with not a lot of activity.

02:04:01.000 What are you talking about?

02:04:03.000 Are you being serious?

02:04:04.000 Yeah, I'm being serious.

02:04:05.000 Oh, what's going on with the sun?

02:04:06.000 The sun normally has a lot of solar activity, storms, ejections, all that kind of stuff.

02:04:10.000 The last 12, 15 years has been really quiet. 0.99

02:04:13.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:04:14.000 It's dying. 1.00

02:04:15.000 No, it's a cycle.

02:04:17.000 But, you know, everybody freaks out.

02:04:18.000 It's global warming.

02:04:20.000 It's global cooling.

02:04:21.000 It's climate this.

02:04:21.000 It's just a solar cycle.

02:04:23.000 And the sun is just chilled right now and taking a breather.

02:04:26.000 And even when they say solar cycle, they're measuring what they've been measuring over a period of, you know, whatever amount of decades they've been able to measure solar cycles. 0.97

02:04:37.000 But just think about how long the fucking sun's been around. 0.97

02:04:40.000 The sun laughs at that measurement. 0.99

02:04:42.000 Yeah, the sun's like, oh, you expect me to behave like I've been behaving for the last 50 years?

02:04:46.000 Yeah, good luck with that, dude. 1.00

02:04:47.000 Because I got a fucking temper. 0.99

02:04:49.000 Sometimes I like to blow up a whole solar system. 1.00

02:04:53.000 Turned into a crisp.

02:04:54.000 I watched this crazy documentary on hypernovas and that they initially thought that they were witnessing, when they saw these gamma bursts in the sky, they thought they were witnessing war between alien races.

02:05:08.000 Like that was the initial reaction to measuring these gamma bursts in the sky.

02:05:12.000 And then they realized somewhere along the line That you're looking at like a hypernova, like an enormous burst, an explosion that's so great that if it was in a nearby cluster, it would kill us.

02:05:26.000 Yeah.

02:05:27.000 That gamma radiation, I think that is the highest that we can even measure.

02:05:34.000 Yeah, and the thing was that it was happening all day, all throughout the sky.

02:05:39.000 They would be measuring this for the first time, and they would see Like all these different spots in the universe, we're experiencing these gamma bursts.

02:05:51.000 How would you not think it's Star Wars?

02:05:53.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:05:53.000 I would totally think that.

02:05:54.000 That's exactly what they thought.

02:05:55.000 They're like, oh my god, what if they come?

02:05:57.000 What if they come and they have this kind of power?

02:05:59.000 They have gamma power.

02:06:00.000 Right, so we have to ban weed. 0.97

02:06:02.000 We have to, you know, get society on the right track.

02:06:05.000 But it seems like at least we could give them our gold and our women and they might leave us be. 0.95

02:06:10.000 It might be possible to negotiate.

02:06:12.000 But you can't negotiate...

02:06:13.000 I'm just kidding about that, obviously.

02:06:14.000 But you can't negotiate with a supernova.

02:06:17.000 You know, when a sun explodes and takes out the entire surrounding area for billions and billions of miles, that's it.

02:06:25.000 It's less feared, but way scarier.

02:06:31.000 Right, you can't build an ark to escape a nova, you know? 1.00

02:06:35.000 That's just a little water.

02:06:38.000 Apparently it happens all the time.

02:06:40.000 It's probably one happening right now somewhere.

02:06:42.000 And you can never convince society of it that, hey, we got bigger problems to worry about than between me and you here. 1.00

02:06:48.000 Than pot delivery services, you fuck. 1.00

02:06:50.000 Absolutely. 1.00

02:06:50.000 Speedweed.com. 1.00

02:06:52.000 Speedweed.com delivers outside of Los Angeles.

02:06:57.000 So you'll get a little package like this, just like Amazon Prime, although it'll be in a box that looks like just a regular delivery.

02:07:06.000 This is your QVC moment.

02:07:08.000 You're sending them through the mail?

02:07:09.000 It's not through the mail.

02:07:11.000 It's through medical courier.

02:07:13.000 Oh, a courier.

02:07:14.000 A medical courier.

02:07:15.000 How high is your medical courier?

02:07:18.000 He's in the middle of driving going, what am I doing with my feet?

02:07:22.000 They actually don't know what medicine they have because they do all sorts of medication.

02:07:28.000 Oh, okay.

02:07:29.000 So they don't just do pot?

02:07:30.000 Don't. 1.00

02:07:31.000 Meanwhile, I bet they're still high as fuck. 0.99

02:07:34.000 So, you know, there are regulations that are coming down for transport as well. 0.99

02:07:42.000 The Teamsters want to get their hands in transport, which they are one of the people who are rallying against...

02:07:51.000 legalization of marijuana.

02:07:53.000 They're with the unions for prisons, so they're kind of fighting on both sides.

02:08:00.000 They want to be involved in transportation of marijuana.

02:08:03.000 However, they're lobbying to keep it illegal.

02:08:06.000 They're the Teamsters.

02:08:07.000 They're gonna be on whatever side wins.

02:08:09.000 Hey, we're over here now.

02:08:11.000 Okay, you're over here now.

02:08:13.000 Yeah.

02:08:13.000 So again, you know, What we were considered was similar to the dominoes of marijuana here in L.A. We are evolving.

02:08:26.000 That's what we were doing before this lawsuit happened.

02:08:29.000 We really want to be considered more like Amazon Prime.

02:08:32.000 So where you're...

02:08:34.000 Of course you do.

02:08:35.000 They make a lot of money.

02:08:36.000 Of course. 0.99

02:08:37.000 We think we're dumb. 0.97

02:08:39.000 Well, now that... 0.96

02:08:40.000 I kind of want to be like Circuit City.

02:08:42.000 Well, Governor Brown's new laws...

02:08:44.000 Blockbuster.

02:08:45.000 Have changed so that marijuana companies can be for-profit now.

02:08:49.000 They don't have to be not-for-profit, which is how it's been for the last 20 years here.

02:08:56.000 And so that has to go into effect by 2018. So that's something to consider also.

02:09:03.000 Once that happens, that changes things for a lot of cannabis businesses.

02:09:07.000 But that all said, every cannabis business that's in LA that's not a dispensary in that Whether they're making edibles or they're making vaporizers or anything.

02:09:16.000 And it's a thriving industry.

02:09:18.000 They're all illegal.

02:09:19.000 Every bit of it.

02:09:20.000 So regulation does need that to happen here in LA. And what we're asking for isn't, hey, just overturn this.

02:09:28.000 We're not saying that.

02:09:28.000 We're saying...

02:09:30.000 We know the city attorney does believe that safe access is important, but he feels he has to uphold this law that was put into effect before he was the city attorney.

02:09:40.000 So since he knows this is a bad law that he has to enforce, he could also affect change by helping go down the path of legalization for good businesses.

02:09:52.000 He's not an idiot. 0.91

02:09:53.000 He realizes what a bad law is. 0.96

02:09:55.000 He just knows his job is to enforce it.

02:09:58.000 So hopefully he'll join the fight to find a path towards legalization.

02:10:03.000 Okay, what can people do, the people that are listening, to wrap this all up, the people that are listening, what's a good way to follow this or a good way to help?

02:10:12.000 A good way to help, if you're in California, a good way to help is to join our collective, even if you don't buy anything, and we'll keep you in touch with the politicians, and we'll put pressure on them.

02:10:19.000 If you're outside of California...

02:10:21.000 What does that mean?

02:10:22.000 Politicians, you put pressure on them, joining, what would that entail?

02:10:26.000 Joining our collective, like if you're a medical marijuana patient, join speedweed.com, and we are working actively with the city to try to solve this.

02:10:34.000 So we're fighting in court, yes, on one hand, but on the other hand, we are conversing with the city.

02:10:39.000 Like, the city knows this is broken.

02:10:40.000 Okay, but what do you mean by joining your collective?

02:10:43.000 What does that entail?

02:10:44.000 Go to speedweed.com, click join, and you put your name, email address.

02:10:51.000 That's all they have to do?

02:10:52.000 That's pretty much it.

02:10:52.000 Do they have to show you proof of medical marijuana license?

02:10:56.000 They do if they want to order.

02:10:57.000 Prescription.

02:10:58.000 But they could join your collective without doing that?

02:11:00.000 They need to show proof that they're a patient to join our collective.

02:11:03.000 Oh, okay.

02:11:03.000 Alright, that's what I was asking.

02:11:05.000 But we also have...

02:11:06.000 You guys are so lackadaisical with this.

02:11:08.000 It's so normal.

02:11:09.000 It's like, yeah, just join our collective.

02:11:12.000 It's hard to be...

02:11:14.000 Most people don't know what we're even talking about.

02:11:17.000 I know.

02:11:18.000 They don't.

02:11:18.000 Try and make it as easy as possible.

02:11:20.000 If you don't have your card, your doctor recommendation, you could get it right on our website by doing a Skype session with your doctor.

02:11:28.000 And we told the story about how we got our cards in the beginning.

02:11:32.000 It's changed so much.

02:11:33.000 Wait a minute, a doctor or I have to get my doctor to do a Skype session? 0.75

02:11:38.000 No, a doctor.

02:11:38.000 You have your own doctor.

02:11:39.000 Right.

02:11:39.000 Yeah, so not your doctor.

02:11:41.000 You're saying...

02:11:42.000 Not your doctor.

02:11:42.000 Your doctor.

02:11:43.000 We have a group of doctors...

02:11:45.000 Right, that's what I'm saying.

02:11:46.000 ...that are professional doctors that you'll do a real Skype session and they'll talk to you about what your ailment is and you can get your card.

02:11:55.000 Instead of going somewhere, you could just do it right in your living room.

02:11:58.000 That's an important point.

02:11:59.000 See, you were making it seem like the guy had to get like, oh man, I gotta get my doctor to Skype.

02:12:03.000 No, no, no.

02:12:04.000 Nope.

02:12:04.000 Hey doc, can you Skype in at 1 o'clock?

02:12:06.000 Jesus Christ.

02:12:08.000 How many tokens?

02:12:08.000 It takes 10 minutes to do.

02:12:10.000 Right on our website, we have interactive people waiting that will...

02:12:13.000 That's a selling point.

02:12:15.000 ...will take you right through the whole process.

02:12:17.000 This is what we need to do.

02:12:17.000 We need to buy a warehouse in California and a bunch of people use it as their mailing address and then get people from other states to become a part of your collective and they have like a fake mailing address and then we hook them up like, All right, we've got to talk more about that idea after this goes dark.

02:12:32.000 Because city attorney's watching and I know he is.

02:12:35.000 It's illegal to do it that way.

02:12:37.000 But I think it's just funny that you have to be in this patch of dirt in order to follow those rules.

02:12:42.000 You couldn't join the collective.

02:12:43.000 You couldn't be from Wisconsin and decide, I want to join one of those California pot collectives.

02:12:48.000 I'll Skype in with the doctor and...

02:12:50.000 No, you have to actually have your mail delivered here. 1.00

02:12:53.000 It's so stupid. 0.99

02:12:54.000 It's weird, like an arbitrary line in the sand politically. 1.00

02:12:57.000 You cross this line, go to jail, come back here, get baked, and have a good time.

02:13:01.000 Well, that's what happens with people that go into Texas. 1.00

02:13:02.000 You fuck up, and you're in a tour bus, and you go, Wee-ha! 1.00

02:13:06.000 This way's the best! 1.00

02:13:07.000 And you hear, whoop, whoop.

02:13:09.000 Oh, no.

02:13:09.000 That's a son of the police.

02:13:11.000 You get pulled over, and you're like, Oh, no, we got pulled over for weed in Texas.

02:13:14.000 This is not like getting pulled over for weed in California.

02:13:17.000 Nope.

02:13:17.000 And next thing you know, Willie Nelson's in jail.

02:13:19.000 Yeah, that's how Willie Nelson got arrested, right?

02:13:21.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:13:21.000 It's hilarious that someone, such a piece of shit, they arrested Willie Nelson. 1.00

02:13:25.000 I'd quit my job. 1.00

02:13:26.000 I'd say, my kids are going hungry. 1.00

02:13:27.000 Fuck this. 1.00

02:13:28.000 I agreed. 1.00

02:13:29.000 It's actually pretty scary getting pulled over with weed in California nowadays because the DUI rate has gone crazy.

02:13:35.000 My friend's a lawyer, a DUI lawyer, and half of his cases now are just from marijuana.

02:13:39.000 And they have a new test where they do the same kind of thing with your eye, but it goes left and right real fast if you're high or something like that.

02:13:47.000 And if they feel like they can smell weed, and if you fail this test, you're getting a DUI just like an alcohol DUI. When you say it goes left to right real quick, what?

02:13:55.000 What?

02:13:55.000 So, you know, when you get pulled over, they do the test with your eye.

02:13:59.000 Like, follow my hand.

02:14:00.000 I think with alcohol, I think it shoots over, like your eye shoots over to the left or the right really fast, or it's jerky.

02:14:08.000 When you're high, your eye reacts different.

02:14:11.000 It's kind of like a jiggly left and right effect when it There can't be any science of that, is there?

02:14:16.000 Well, that's it.

02:14:17.000 Right now in court, they are fighting just that.

02:14:22.000 If it's a legit test, and they don't have a...

02:14:26.000 Like a.08 for weed yet, so they don't really have any laws.

02:14:30.000 Here's the main problem, and I think you'll agree with me.

02:14:32.000 There's never been a study that shows there's any loss of motor skills.

02:14:35.000 Nope.

02:14:35.000 None.

02:14:36.000 There was one study about driving while smoking weed, and they found that people actually performed better on the road.

02:14:43.000 Yeah.

02:14:43.000 Well, that's the problem.

02:14:44.000 It's not a motor skill thing.

02:14:45.000 It's not like alcohol.

02:14:46.000 Everybody knows that if you drink too much, you don't drive good.

02:14:49.000 Everybody knows that.

02:14:50.000 It's bad for your motor skills.

02:14:52.000 Pot's not.

02:14:53.000 It's simple.

02:14:54.000 So what are they pulling you over for exactly?

02:14:56.000 State of mind?

02:14:57.000 Because if it doesn't affect your motor skills, like is it affecting your judgment?

02:15:01.000 Can you prove that people who are intoxicated on marijuana perform less intelligently than people that are intoxicated on caffeine or cigarettes?

02:15:10.000 Because you know they're doing that.

02:15:11.000 A cop could pull a guy over, he could have a cigarette in the corner of his mouth, drinking a cup of coffee, and no one says a word.

02:15:16.000 Those are two drugs interacting with each other.

02:15:18.000 No one has a problem.

02:15:19.000 So it's a state of mind issue?

02:15:21.000 And he could have those drugs and still have a couple of pops at the bar to really amp up all that aggression and still legally drive behind.

02:15:28.000 But what is intoxication?

02:15:30.000 I mean, isn't intoxication supposed to be a loss of motor skills?

02:15:33.000 Well, right, but it's sort of arbitrary, because what is intoxicating?

02:15:38.000 I mean, the swab test just did not pass in California, where they were trying to swab for THC molecules, and it's like, no, that's totally not going to work.

02:15:46.000 You can't do that.

02:15:47.000 Someone can just walk through a party, and then they get swabbed, and they're in trouble.

02:15:51.000 They don't even have any of it in their system.

02:15:53.000 You can't do that.

02:15:54.000 You can't.

02:15:54.000 Like, Gino, with what he smokes, I don't even know when he's high.

02:15:59.000 I don't know when he's stoned.

02:16:00.000 Trust me, he's high right now.

02:16:01.000 I know he is.

02:16:02.000 Trust me.

02:16:03.000 But you wouldn't know.

02:16:04.000 So many people are high right now and you wouldn't know.

02:16:07.000 Right.

02:16:07.000 Of course.

02:16:08.000 So how can you test for it?

02:16:10.000 Well, the real problem is what can you show is bad about being high.

02:16:15.000 I need to see something on your tests where you show me why you should be able to pull people over while you're wearing a gun.

02:16:23.000 And shine a light in their face and get them out of their vehicle and make them do things.

02:16:26.000 Like, what is the worst case?

02:16:28.000 You're looking for marijuana.

02:16:29.000 Okay.

02:16:29.000 What's the worst case scenario that's going on with this person that's on the marijuana?

02:16:34.000 Are they performing in any way, shape, or form where they're a danger to the people around them? 0.99

02:16:40.000 So if that is true, I think you have to prove that before you put people in a fucking cage. 0.99

02:16:45.000 Yep. 0.97

02:16:45.000 It also varies from person to person, I believe. 0.97

02:16:47.000 I know a girl that smokes a joint. 1.00

02:16:48.000 She can't drive. 0.91

02:16:49.000 She can barely function as a human. 1.00

02:16:51.000 But, you know, like J&O could do a whole ounce and he'll be fine to drive as exact same driver as before, if not better.

02:16:57.000 But this girl, no way.

02:16:59.000 I wouldn't even let her in the car if she smoked a joint. 1.00

02:17:01.000 I bet she probably shouldn't be able to drive anyway. 1.00

02:17:02.000 How about that?

02:17:03.000 You can't nerf the world, dude.

02:17:06.000 Right.

02:17:06.000 But there should be like a test.

02:17:08.000 We've talked about this before, like a marijuana test.

02:17:10.000 Like you are a 10, meaning you could do marijuana in anything and you're fine, but this person's rated a 6. But it's a mind issue.

02:17:17.000 It's not a motor skill issue.

02:17:19.000 This is where the problem lies.

02:17:21.000 It's like, yeah, I guess some people would freak out when they're on pot and they lose their mind and maybe they shouldn't be intoxicated.

02:17:26.000 But those people would probably lose their mind if someone yelled at them.

02:17:29.000 Some people are just weak.

02:17:31.000 The glue that keeps their reality together is just really fragile.

02:17:37.000 And then throw some pot in there or a drink.

02:17:39.000 I mean, how many people do we know that have one drink and they're like, woo! 1.00

02:17:43.000 They get fucking crazy. 0.98

02:17:44.000 That's a person whose reality is really shaky. 0.99

02:17:47.000 But that doesn't have anything to do with me.

02:17:49.000 No! 0.97

02:17:50.000 And the idea that cops look towards that as being the standard is ridiculous. 0.91

02:17:56.000 Right.

02:17:56.000 I was gonna say, if you have like a festival, like a cops test potheads festival, we would do it.

02:18:05.000 We would fucking do it. 0.84

02:18:06.000 Look, for sure, you could have go-karts, set it up. 0.99

02:18:09.000 What do you want to do? 0.99

02:18:10.000 You want to have fucking one of those mud bogger races? 1.00

02:18:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:18:13.000 Let us smoke pot. 1.00

02:18:15.000 We'll do all that.

02:18:15.000 We'll have jiu-jitsu tournaments where people smoke pot before they do jiu-jitsu.

02:18:18.000 Get orange cones and clipboards and some weed and people will join. 0.99

02:18:22.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

02:18:23.000 And we'll learn. 1.00

02:18:24.000 We'll know.

02:18:24.000 Yeah.

02:18:25.000 You need to show some sort of significant issue. 0.61

02:18:28.000 Because there's a significant issue with some people, but you're not even stopping those people from taking who knows what the fuck they're taking as far as antidepressants or psychoactive substances prescribed by their doctors. 0.99

02:18:41.000 How many people are on fucking Adderall, man? 0.99

02:18:43.000 That's meth. 1.00

02:18:44.000 They're taking meth.

02:18:45.000 They're driving around. 1.00

02:18:47.000 You know, I know a bunch of adults that take that shit on a daily basis. 1.00

02:18:51.000 Yep. 1.00

02:18:52.000 So, what you're dealing with is a lot of different chemicals that could potentially fuck with the mind.

02:18:57.000 Like, why are you concentrating on pot?

02:18:59.000 You haven't shown any reason to concentrate on pot.

02:19:02.000 You know, the chief of police in New York City recently said that every crime could be tied back to marijuana.

02:19:09.000 That's hilarious.

02:19:10.000 Including him.

02:19:12.000 You know, which is... 0.99

02:19:13.000 He's a criminal.

02:19:14.000 ...outrageous because it's just trying to give more reach for police officers to pull you over. 0.95

02:19:19.000 That is such a crazy, irresponsible thing to say.

02:19:22.000 That's like saying every crime can be tied back to water.

02:19:25.000 Or parents.

02:19:25.000 Yeah, we all have 96% water and it's all a crime.

02:19:29.000 Yeah, it's all stupid, man. 1.00

02:19:31.000 It really is. 1.00

02:19:32.000 It's just something that should be a joke that we look back on from the 1930s.

02:19:38.000 We look back and go, wow, look at the craziness that these people had to deal with back then.

02:19:41.000 But instead, we have to deal with it today.

02:19:43.000 In the age of Google and information, scientific studies ad nauseum that all show the same thing.

02:19:50.000 And none of them show any negative effects.

02:19:52.000 None of them.

02:19:53.000 There's like some questions about memory.

02:19:54.000 That's it.

02:19:55.000 But it seems to only affect you while you're on it.

02:19:57.000 When you get off of it, it doesn't seem Do you have any effect on your memory at all?

02:20:00.000 I mean, the head of the DEA currently said, medical marijuana, that's just a joke.

02:20:05.000 Let's get past that.

02:20:07.000 And the head of the DEA before that, when asked by Congress, is marijuana more detrimental than meth?

02:20:18.000 She said she can't answer. 0.97

02:20:19.000 We played that many times on the show because it's so ridiculous. 0.76

02:20:22.000 Oh, that was Leonhardt, right? 0.88

02:20:23.000 Yeah.

02:20:23.000 And this was a senator or something, kept grilling her.

02:20:26.000 Mm-hmm. 0.99

02:20:27.000 If you haven't seen it, it's fucking infuriating. 0.99

02:20:30.000 It is. 0.98

02:20:30.000 So what's so infuriating also is that we all know. 0.98

02:20:34.000 So how come these people who are in power...

02:20:38.000 Aren't in the know.

02:20:39.000 Why are they hiding?

02:20:40.000 Because it's not that they're not in the know.

02:20:42.000 It's that they are the official response, right?

02:20:45.000 So they, like, that lady's just doing her job. 1.00

02:20:47.000 She couldn't just speak out of turn.

02:20:49.000 She couldn't.

02:20:50.000 She would get fired.

02:20:51.000 She couldn't just say whatever she wants, even if she doesn't, even if she doesn't believe that it should be illegal.

02:20:55.000 She's not gonna say that.

02:20:57.000 No!

02:20:57.000 Because that's not her job.

02:20:57.000 Her job is to do whatever the fuck her superiors tell her to do.

02:21:01.000 And to stay employed and make sure her budget doesn't get caught. 0.99

02:21:04.000 Exactly.

02:21:05.000 That's her job. 0.97

02:21:05.000 So it's not even her fault. 0.97

02:21:06.000 It's the fault of the system that they accept that.

02:21:09.000 The whole thing is preposterous.

02:21:11.000 It doesn't hold up anymore.

02:21:13.000 Well, this is why we have to play this game of politics.

02:21:15.000 You know, we just want to run a business and a good business.

02:21:19.000 But we have to play this game of politics because if we don't, from the bottom, affect change to those people who are at the top and let them continue to create these laws, we could just go another 20 years with these bad laws when there's no reason for it.

02:21:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:21:37.000 I think you're right.

02:21:38.000 I'm just hoping that what's going to go on is that, as you know, from the time that I first got my license to today, how much more open it's been, much more relaxed people are, much more accepting people are of it, and much more accepting amongst grown adults.

02:21:52.000 You just see the attitudes of people, they're changing, and people understanding how beneficial it is, especially for people who need it medically.

02:22:00.000 Cancer patients, things along those lines, kids with epilepsy, ADD, things along those lines.

02:22:06.000 There's just so many people that benefit from it.

02:22:09.000 Hopefully, it's on its way out.

02:22:11.000 All the laws are on their way out.

02:22:13.000 And you can't just disregard the experience of the masses.

02:22:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:22:20.000 It's not fair.

02:22:22.000 We're lucky to be in sort of the social media age, which can be annoying at times, but it also allows information to move very quickly.

02:22:30.000 So if your kid is helped by having fewer seizures, everybody's going to know about that in 24 hours.

02:22:36.000 So you can't really suppress the truth any longer.

02:22:40.000 And even Texas is polling positively.

02:22:43.000 Florida is going to pass it.

02:22:45.000 Pennsylvania just passed it.

02:22:47.000 The dominoes are falling.

02:22:49.000 The dominoes are falling and people like Chris Christie are going to be, as Amber Lyon likes to say, on the wrong side of history.

02:22:55.000 And that's just, there's no other way around it. 1.00

02:22:57.000 It's just, this guy's a fool. 1.00

02:22:59.000 He's a fool and he needs to get off the sugar. 1.00

02:23:02.000 Contact Mark Sisson, bitch. 1.00

02:23:03.000 He'll straighten you out. 1.00

02:23:05.000 PrimalBlueprint.com Alright, that's it.

02:23:08.000 Good night, everybody.

02:23:09.000 Thank you, Gino.

02:23:10.000 Thank you, AJ. Thank you, Red Band.

02:23:11.000 Oh, Red Band, you got a show this Thursday.

02:23:14.000 Denver Comedy Works, and then we're right there with George Perez and Ryan Doon.

02:23:18.000 The following week, we're in New York with Legion of Skanks people. 1.00

02:23:22.000 The Skank Fest.

02:23:23.000 Powerful Skank Fest.

02:23:24.000 So, Denver Comedy Works Thursday, awesome spot.

02:23:27.000 Tomorrow night, I'm at the Ice House with Ian Edwards.

02:23:31.000 Ian's doing both shows, and I think Joey's doing the second show, too.

02:23:34.000 So, this will be the last shows that I do before I do my comedy special. 0.99

02:23:39.000 So, alright, you fucks. 0.99

02:23:40.000 AJ, thank you. 1.00

02:23:41.000 Thank you, Gino.

02:23:42.000 Always appreciate you guys.

02:23:44.000 LASpeedweed.com?

02:23:45.000 Just Speedweed.com.

02:23:46.000 Speedweed.com. 1.00

02:23:46.000 Speedweed.com, you fucking monsters. 1.00

02:23:49.000 Thanks, Joe. 1.00

02:23:50.000 Thanks, buddy.

The Joe Rogan Experience - June 07, 2016

Joe Rogan Experience #807 - Gino & AJ, from Speedweed

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