The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #820 - Milo Yiannopoulos

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00:00:51.000 We're going to record a podcast for my friend Cameron Haynes.

00:00:54.000 It will be episode two of his podcast because my other good friend, John Dudley of the Knock On podcast, and boy, if you want to dork out on fucking archery, you know, people think that I get too much into shit.

00:01:10.000 John needs to go to a doctor.

00:01:13.000 He knows so much about archery.

00:01:15.000 I'm concerned about his brain.

00:01:17.000 He might have a tumor, an arrowhead-shaped tumor in his brain.

00:01:21.000 I bet he's got a tumor in his head like the cam on a compound bow.

00:01:25.000 I'm kidding, obviously.

00:01:27.000 He's a super knowledgeable, deeply technical, geeked-out archery guru who's taught me a lot about archery.

00:01:36.000 But I mean, you want to talk about like a podcast only for people who are into archery.

00:01:41.000 I mean, he gets so specific, but that's what I love about it.

00:01:45.000 Anyway, he is going to join Cameron Haynes and me, and we're going to do a keep hammering podcast either after the UFC, that night, that's possible, or we might do it the day of or something like that.

00:01:58.000 Probably at night would be the best because it'll be, you know, post-fights.

00:02:03.000 We'll be all worked up and it'll be crazy.

00:02:05.000 So that's what we're probably going to do.

00:02:06.000 We're probably going to get something to eat after the fights are over and then record a podcast.

00:02:11.000 So that's something to look forward to.

00:02:13.000 And his first podcast, Cameron Haynes Keep Hammering Podcast, hit number two in sports podcasts in America in the first week.

00:02:22.000 That is fucking insane.

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00:02:27.000 And I know I could speak for Cam.

00:02:30.000 He's super thankful.

00:02:31.000 Cam is a very inspirational guy and he's a real quiet, humble guy.

00:02:36.000 And nobody works harder than that guy.

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00:10:13.000 I tried to explain to Milo that you can't wear sunglasses indoors unless you're black.

00:10:18.000 And you put them right back on.

00:10:20.000 You almost took them off.

00:10:21.000 No, I don't know.

00:10:21.000 But you put them back on in spite.

00:10:23.000 Well, I said I've got plenty of black in me and you should mind your own business. 1.00

00:10:26.000 You have had plenty of black in the middle. 0.97

00:10:28.000 Tenses are very difficult.

00:10:29.000 Tens is very difficult.

00:10:30.000 Especially with that jacket on.

00:10:31.000 Oh, you like it?

00:10:32.000 It's adorable.

00:10:33.000 Thank you.

00:10:34.000 You know, I like to military it up a little bit sometimes.

00:10:37.000 Do you want me to take them off?

00:10:38.000 You do, don't you?

00:10:39.000 Explain to the people listening what exactly this jacket is, because some folks are not watching.

00:10:43.000 Oh, well, I went to, well, obviously I have lots of friends in the military.

00:10:45.000 It's the best armed forces in the world.

00:10:46.000 America should be very happy about it.

00:10:48.000 Occasionally, you wander into the commissary and just pick up a few little items.

00:10:53.000 I had it adjusted, of course, because the military stuff is very boxy.

00:10:56.000 Very boxy.

00:10:57.000 So I took it to a nice tailor in Beverly Hills.

00:11:01.000 Had the sleeves pulled in.

00:11:02.000 It's very nice.

00:11:03.000 So it's like some sort of a navy jacket or something?

00:11:05.000 What is that exactly?

00:11:06.000 I think this is an army dress jacket, actually, but this is in an Air Force place.

00:11:09.000 Is that military appropriation?

00:11:12.000 Is that stolen valor?

00:11:13.000 Are you allowed to wear those?

00:11:14.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:11:15.000 It's only stolen valor if you're misrepresenting that remember the armed forces.

00:11:18.000 And you know, if I had like badges on or something, then that would be bad.

00:11:22.000 I like to think of this more as a sort of fashionable homage.

00:11:26.000 It's a respectful gesture.

00:11:28.000 Ah, nice.

00:11:29.000 Yeah, those stolen valor dudes are very odd.

00:11:31.000 When they get caught, you've seen a lot of those videos, that's a disturbing little mental illness to pretend to be some war hero.

00:11:39.000 It is.

00:11:39.000 And you know what's interesting?

00:11:40.000 They always get caught out because they're sort of very clever, but not very clever.

00:11:43.000 So what they'll do is they will think that they've got all the badges right, and they'll kind of like, they'll have a friend who sort of lets them into the commissary so they can go and pick up these badges, like pretend they're part of the tank unit or whatever.

00:11:53.000 But they'll get something slightly wrong because they're not serving and they don't have a superior officer to be like, that's, you know, you know, they'll just get a little something wrong.

00:12:01.000 And of course, for all of their weird, autistic obsessions about getting all of the uniform stuff perfect, there are people out there on the internet who are vets who know the difference. 0.90

00:12:12.000 And so with these amazing wars, there's a name for them.

00:12:16.000 In Britain, we call them Waltz, like Walter Mitte's.

00:12:19.000 Walter Mitty is...

00:12:19.000 Who's Walter Mitty?

00:12:22.000 Yeah, so most recently there was a movie, I think it was, was it Matt Damon?

00:12:27.000 Yeah, anyway, it's become a novel and a movie, and it's become just a name in culture for people who pretend to be somebody else.

00:12:35.000 A secret life for Walter Mitty.

00:12:37.000 Oh, that's right.

00:12:38.000 Yeah, so in the army they call them Walts, people who pretend to be vets or pretend to be sort of serving personnel who are not.

00:12:47.000 It's a very bizarre mental illness.

00:12:48.000 It is, it is, yeah.

00:12:50.000 It's so uncomfortable watching them get called out, too.

00:12:53.000 There was one guy at an airport.

00:12:54.000 I love it.

00:12:55.000 And these Marines cornered him and they started asking him questions.

00:12:58.000 They started falling apart.

00:13:01.000 Yeah, no, it's so awkward and cringy, but I live for those moments anyway.

00:13:06.000 They are fun.

00:13:08.000 Speaking of awkward and cringy, what the fuck is going on with your country, man?

00:13:12.000 Well, I'm so happy for the first time.

00:13:15.000 No, I've never, I mean, you know, Michelle Obama said something terrible.

00:13:18.000 She's like, I was proud of my country for the first time or something like that, you know, about something trivial and ridiculous, which I found distressing.

00:13:25.000 And I don't want to say that because it's not true.

00:13:27.000 But I did suddenly think there might be hope for Europe after all.

00:13:31.000 There might be hope, particularly for the best country in Europe, which is England, and the best sort of nation in Europe, the United Kingdom.

00:13:37.000 Finally, unshackled from this hellish continent on a suicide mission into Islamization and economic doom, finally, the UK's got a chance to prove that it's better than all that, and it can reopen better trade relationships with Asia, with India, with America. 0.99

00:13:55.000 It can reassess, renegotiate its relationship with all the countries around it.

00:13:59.000 The European project for me, I mean, I know a lot of Americans have sort of believed what they've read about the coverage from the media on this, but I'm definitely in the Brexit camp.

00:14:08.000 I think it's fantastic.

00:14:09.000 And not just economically, because I think things will bounce back and Britain will be better than ever, but culturally, and that's what's so essential.

00:14:16.000 Britain has a slightly different national character as the rest of Europe.

00:14:18.000 It's never really fit.

00:14:20.000 And I think Britain now has an opportunity to save itself from the suicidal open borders policies of Angela Merkel, from the inevitable decline and fall of Europe as a continent.

00:14:32.000 Generally, Britain's got a chance now, and it didn't have a chance as part of Europe.

00:14:35.000 And Merkel is the one who, when those attacks were going on in Germany during New Year's Eve, where the Islamic guys were grabbing all those girls, her advice was for them to dress differently and stay within arm's length.

00:14:50.000 I mean, in feminism, we call this victim blaming. 1.00

00:14:52.000 Yes.

00:14:53.000 When you tell people that they did something that contributed toward their rape.

00:14:56.000 But of course, in the hierarchy of oppression and victimhood, according to progressives, Muslims rank higher than women. 0.97

00:15:02.000 Muslims rank higher than anybody else, in fact.

00:15:04.000 Nobody knows why.

00:15:05.000 Well, it's because of the wars.

00:15:06.000 Well, it's differently, right?

00:15:08.000 It's because they hate the West as much as feminists do. 1.00

00:15:11.000 But don't you think it has something to do with the fact that we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and people feel a little bit guilty about the fact that a million people have died?

00:15:17.000 Well, white guilt has driven all of the worst things that have happened in Western.

00:15:22.000 Oh, all of them.

00:15:22.000 All of the worst things that have happened in Western culture in the last 30 years have all been driven by white guilt.

00:15:26.000 Feminism, Black Lives Matter, the whole lot. 1.00

00:15:28.000 You know, these are not good reasons.

00:15:30.000 Feminism is driven by white guilt? 1.00

00:15:32.000 Of course.

00:15:33.000 Look, I've got a theory about this.

00:15:34.000 It's very straightforward.

00:15:36.000 In the 90s, we had Marilyn Manson, we had Trent Rezner, we had Novana, and people were cutting themselves.

00:15:43.000 You know, there was the emo thing.

00:15:45.000 When I was growing up, I mean, I didn't, obviously, but when people were growing up, they had an outlet for all of that sort of repressed rage and self-loathing.

00:15:50.000 Well, kids these days don't have that.

00:15:52.000 And the inevitable result was social justice.

00:15:55.000 What they do instead is they sort of hang on to this.

00:15:57.000 It's a protracted self-hatred.

00:15:58.000 It's protracted self-harm, social justice.

00:16:00.000 They go out into the world and hurt people who look like them. 0.99

00:16:03.000 So these awful, you know, middle-class white feminist women just want to hurt other middle-class white people because they feel like the world is terrible. 1.00

00:16:11.000 It's a very weird phenomenon, this social justice thing.

00:16:14.000 And I think it's mainly driven by self-loathing.

00:16:16.000 And once you understand that, their behavior becomes a lot more...

00:16:22.000 You start to understand why they are as they are.

00:16:25.000 Well, I think a lot of hate is definitely based in self-loathing.

00:16:28.000 And there's an opportunity today that they have that they never had before to organize and find like-minded folks and get together and form other crazy people.

00:16:37.000 They're bully gangs.

00:16:38.000 But they're bully gangs.

00:16:38.000 Yes, they are bully gangs.

00:16:39.000 And when you start to understand that this is a sort of psychosis, when you start to understand this is a sort of like mental illness, this is something that they should have got out of their systems when they were teens, but they didn't because they had no culture to help them.

00:16:50.000 I grew up on Marlon Manson and Nirvana.

00:16:53.000 These kids grew up on Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber and that sort of like flat anodyne, eternally funless, grinning garbage.

00:17:00.000 They don't ever get it out of their systems.

00:17:02.000 And now you have 35-year-old bitter bastards working for BuzzFeed who still, it's got to go somewhere.

00:17:08.000 And where does it go?

00:17:09.000 It goes into social justice.

00:17:10.000 And this is what's happened.

00:17:12.000 Don't you think that there's a percentage of them, some of them, that genuinely feel like this is a unique opportunity to right some of the wrongs that our culture has sort of encouraged.

00:17:25.000 There's legitimate sexism.

00:17:26.000 There's legitimate racism, right?

00:17:28.000 Nobody says there's no sexism and no racism in this country, even in this country.

00:17:34.000 No serious person says that.

00:17:36.000 Nobody really believes that.

00:17:37.000 I'm squeaking on my chair.

00:17:38.000 That wasn't anything else.

00:17:40.000 Nobody really believes that.

00:17:42.000 And nobody says it.

00:17:43.000 Look, we live in, well, you live.

00:17:46.000 I hope to live here one day.

00:17:47.000 But you live in the greatest country in the world.

00:17:50.000 It is a country driven by democracy, freedom, property rights, capitalism, and all of those Western values, the values on which freedom of speech and the Second Amendment 2, all of those things that went into building America and making America wonderful are exactly the same things that are responsible for women having the vote, having access to the same opportunities, same access to institutions, to education, the workplace, having equal pay, which of course they do.

00:18:13.000 Giving gay people rights.

00:18:14.000 Look at the places in the world where gay people have rights.

00:18:16.000 They are modern Western liberal capitalist democracies.

00:18:19.000 Well, the left hates all of those things and hates the West for precisely the reasons that the West has been nice to them.

00:18:26.000 And frankly, they want to go after this cish-het white patriarchy. 0.99

00:18:30.000 Well, the patriarchy, the Western capitalist patriarchy, is the only people that like you.

00:18:35.000 The only people who like the gays. 1.00

00:18:36.000 The only people who like blacks and women, all the rest of it. 1.00

00:18:39.000 Go anywhere else in the world.

00:18:40.000 And it is not a particularly pretty situation, not a particularly happy place to be if you're not born into the right group.

00:18:47.000 If you're in America, you can pretty much do, say, and be whatever you want.

00:18:50.000 Now, there are threats to that.

00:18:51.000 And my college tour is hoping to sort of head off some of those threats brewing in American universities.

00:18:57.000 But what are these people really hating on?

00:18:59.000 They live in the best country, the most equal country, the greatest country, the country with the most liberal values anywhere on the planet.

00:19:06.000 And they're still not happy.

00:19:07.000 Well, fine, that's okay.

00:19:08.000 There are obviously things left to fix.

00:19:09.000 No one's saying there's no sexism and no racism.

00:19:11.000 But why are they so silent when they see these horrific things happen elsewhere in the world?

00:19:15.000 And when left-wing politicians decide they want to bring those horrific things into our countries?

00:19:21.000 Justin Trudeau wants to bring all of these Syrian, they're not refugees, of course, they're migrants.

00:19:26.000 Angela Merkel in Germany, she was talking about a moment ago, she opened the borders.

00:19:29.000 Are there 2 million Syrians in Germany?

00:19:32.000 We know it's at least 1.2, 1.4 million.

00:19:32.000 Nobody really knows.

00:19:34.000 Fundamentally altering the fabric of Germany and importing with it, bringing in with it. 0.99

00:19:40.000 Did we have a crash?

00:19:41.000 Are we still recording audio?

00:19:43.000 Okay, what happened?

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00:19:45.000 So if you're watching this on YouTube, you're not watching this.

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00:19:50.000 You're not seeing anything.

00:19:51.000 Government man, people are right now.

00:19:52.000 Do you know what it is?

00:19:53.000 Spiritually minded folks.

00:19:54.000 Because we said feminism and Islam and Merkel.

00:19:58.000 They came in. 0.60

00:19:58.000 All together. 0.60

00:19:59.000 And European Union.

00:20:00.000 Yeah, they sent.

00:20:00.000 They came in.

00:20:02.000 They sent a bomb through the pipes.

00:20:04.000 We've got the Stuxnet is in here.

00:20:06.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't think anybody is saying that there's no racism, and no one's saying there's no sexism.

00:20:11.000 We agree on that.

00:20:12.000 But don't you think that some that there is should be combated in some sort of a way?

00:20:18.000 Well, sure, but that takes care of itself pretty much.

00:20:21.000 I mean, look, when was the last time somebody said a genuinely sexist or a genuinely racist remark in a friend group you were out in the bar with and didn't get corrected by people?

00:20:30.000 Well, with my friends, it would all be joking.

00:20:32.000 But a lot of people.

00:20:33.000 Of course it's joking with everybody.

00:20:34.000 I mean, how many white supremacists do you really think are in America compared to black supremacists?

00:20:40.000 How many genuinely misogynistic women-hating men do you think they're in America compared to the young women that third-wave feminism has bred? 0.89

00:20:49.000 Well, the third-wave feminism, though, is organized, whereas the misogynist men, most of the time they're isolated, living in cabins in the woods and shit.

00:20:57.000 We have to speculate because we never meet any because we don't know any.

00:20:59.000 I don't know any.

00:21:00.000 I've never met one, but I've met plenty of man-hating, lesbianic monsters who would be perfectly happy to see men rounded up in camps. 1.00

00:21:08.000 I've never met a real misogynist, and I try, and I try.

00:21:13.000 I mean, wouldn't they be my fans if they existed?

00:21:16.000 I mean, you know, I'm always being accused of providing cover for these people, but I've never found any.

00:21:21.000 Well, that doesn't mean they're not there.

00:21:23.000 I mean, you're dealing with a huge number of people.

00:21:26.000 But what about the rapists?

00:21:27.000 What about the people that murder women?

00:21:28.000 I mean, those are real people.

00:21:30.000 Well, the rape rates have in this country have been going down for 30 years.

00:21:32.000 They have been going down, and that's wonderful, right?

00:21:35.000 And it's fantastic.

00:21:36.000 But they still happen.

00:21:38.000 You're never going to get rid of that, right?

00:21:42.000 You cannot, like, language police your way out of bigotry.

00:21:44.000 No one's saying anything.

00:21:45.000 You can language police.

00:21:46.000 Can't you think culturally we've evolved past where we were a thousand years ago?

00:21:50.000 We all agree on that, right?

00:21:51.000 Sure, but you're not.

00:21:52.000 That's never going to eradicate rape. 1.00

00:21:54.000 That's not going to happen.

00:21:55.000 No.

00:21:55.000 Never?

00:21:56.000 No, really?

00:21:57.000 Of course not.

00:21:57.000 That's insane.

00:21:59.000 Well, once we get to the point where we can read each other's minds, we have some sort of embedded silicone chip that allows us to.

00:22:05.000 Can you imagine anything worse than that?

00:22:06.000 It's going to happen.

00:22:06.000 Imagine anything worse than that?

00:22:07.000 Don't you think we're kind of halfway there?

00:22:09.000 Read each other's minds.

00:22:10.000 I don't even want to read my own mind.

00:22:11.000 My God.

00:22:12.000 Don't you think we're kind of on the way there?

00:22:13.000 No.

00:22:14.000 No, and actually, it's actually, you know, look, this masculine energy, you know, that everybody in this room has inside of them.

00:22:20.000 But like when you say that with your hands open like a jazz dancer, your blonde bleached energy. 0.98

00:22:27.000 This tailored army jacket.

00:22:30.000 This masculine energy cannot be contained.

00:22:32.000 Listen, Joe, this masculine energy is like just waiting to bust out, okay?

00:22:37.000 It's an explosion.

00:22:38.000 It can't be contained.

00:22:39.000 Yes.

00:22:42.000 Fuck you.

00:22:45.000 I'll try that again.

00:22:47.000 This masculine energy.

00:22:48.000 Maybe you could coach me through it.

00:22:50.000 Okay.

00:22:52.000 It's so hard, but you've got like sparkly dog tags on.

00:22:57.000 Don't you dunno?

00:22:59.000 They clanked.

00:23:01.000 They clanked.

00:23:08.000 Sorry.

00:23:09.000 I had such a nice time last time.

00:23:10.000 Isn't having a nice time this time?

00:23:12.000 We are having a lovely time.

00:23:14.000 I can see which way this three hours is going already.

00:23:17.000 Just roast Milo time.

00:23:18.000 That's fine.

00:23:19.000 Bring it.

00:23:19.000 It's okay.

00:23:20.000 It's all friendly, my friend.

00:23:21.000 No, actually my hair, since you bring it up, is not as nice as last time.

00:23:25.000 I had a lovely No, it's okay.

00:23:29.000 All right.

00:23:30.000 There is a masculine instinct, an impulse to create, to destroy, to do certain things, competitiveness driven by hormones, to the testosterone instinct.

00:23:40.000 And Kamil Pali was talking about this in the 90s.

00:23:42.000 got to go somewhere.

00:23:43.000 And if you look at the What I'm saying, though, is that if you bully men out of the public square and you sort of demonize and ridicule and almost make illegal healthy, normal male behaviors, which is happening in schools and colleges, for sure, and it's also happening in the public square.

00:24:09.000 If you make it okay to say almost anything about men, if you sort of bully men out of public life, bad things happen, you know, and people have to, that has to come out somewhere.

00:24:20.000 And to your point, fortunately, we do live in evolved enough times where most of the time it's just men letting off steam on the internet in comment sections, I think.

00:24:29.000 But that dark, well I say dark, that sort of dangerous energy that is in all men, which is what women like about men, it's certainly what men like about men, in my case. 0.90

00:24:41.000 You know, root of all the best sex, the reason we went to the stars, the built civilizations, you know, the stuff that makes men awesome does have a flip side to it.

00:24:50.000 And it's, you know, it can be dangerous.

00:24:52.000 You know, men can be dangerous.

00:24:54.000 But it also can be managed.

00:24:56.000 But it can't be managed if you lie about it.

00:24:56.000 Of course.

00:24:58.000 It can't be managed if you pretend that you can talk your way out of it.

00:25:00.000 And it can't, in particular, and most importantly, women can't protect themselves from it if they are lied to about it. 1.00

00:25:07.000 And this sort of, you know, masculinity is so fragile.

00:25:09.000 Men are just socialized to be violent.

00:25:10.000 They're not just socialized to be violent.

00:25:12.000 You know, this is a hormone thing. 1.00

00:25:13.000 Men just are more aggressive, you know.

00:25:16.000 And if you, I mean, for instance, in colleges, right?

00:25:19.000 If you tell women that the worst thing that's ever going to happen to them is somebody putting a hand on their leg and you call that sexual assault and you put that in the sexual assault statistics and you tell women, oh, you can wear whatever you want and you can go out at 3 a.m. wearing a mini skirt and no man has a right to look at you and no victim blame and all the rest of it.

00:25:36.000 You're telling women effectively they can put themselves in danger and bad things are going to happen to those women.

00:25:42.000 We do live in more civilized times but we also have to recognize that there is something dark and dangerous about men and it is what creates, it is what has driven human civilization to the heights that it has risen to.

00:25:57.000 But it is also why men fill most of the prisons, right?

00:25:59.000 The sublime geniuses and the knuckle-dragging apes of our species are both male, right? 0.98

00:26:07.000 And you can see that in a variety of different things.

00:26:09.000 People don't take IQ very seriously, but you can see, for instance, in IQ distribution, one of the suggestions that might be the case, you know, sublime musical and artistic geniuses up in the very top end of the IQ scale where women tend not to exist.

00:26:21.000 Likewise, you know, down in the knuckle drag of 70 and 80 IQ, women tend not to exist down there either. 1.00

00:26:26.000 Men are more variable than women in general.

00:26:28.000 Men are more complex, I think, than women in some ways. 0.99

00:26:32.000 And this, you know, the idea that you can just sort of buzzfeed your way out of rape in civilization is just insane.

00:26:40.000 Buzzfeed your way out.

00:26:41.000 You know, if you publish enough listicles about how masculinity is so fragile and straight white men are the root of all evil that that's somehow going to stop rape.

00:26:50.000 No, in fact, I think that's probably counterproductive.

00:26:53.000 I think that's probably going to push some men to boil over because they're sick of being lied to and lied about.

00:26:59.000 But the good news is rape has been going down for 30 years.

00:27:01.000 American college campuses are probably the safest place you could possibly be as a young woman in America today, despite what the left tells you and the lies it tells you about all sorts of things.

00:27:12.000 We're in a good place, but the left won't say that or acknowledge victory because that'll put them all out of business.

00:27:16.000 Well, there's a strange thing with masculinity where there's ways to manage it, and one of the best ways to manage it is martial arts.

00:27:25.000 And it's one of the things that's least encouraged with children and with young men.

00:27:31.000 And I think it's critically important to exercise that demon out of your system.

00:27:37.000 Get that aggression out, whether it's through some form of sports.

00:27:40.000 But there's obviously problems with that.

00:27:42.000 One of the big ones being CTE.

00:27:44.000 That's the same thing with football and other aggressive.

00:27:47.000 It's chronic brain injury, chronic traumatic inception.

00:27:50.000 But you don't have to be beating each other in the head.

00:27:52.000 You could just, you know, you could do athletics.

00:27:54.000 You could do something.

00:27:55.000 Yeah, but my point being, one of the reasons that martial arts are such a good vehicle is because it calms down one of the main issues with men and aggressive behavior, which is insecurity.

00:28:06.000 Insecurity leads to a lot more aggressive behavior.

00:28:09.000 When men are more secure, they're less likely to engage in ridiculous behavior.

00:28:14.000 Right, and what is the one product?

00:28:16.000 Are you okay?

00:28:17.000 Yeah, I'm sorry.

00:28:18.000 fucking butter coffee.

00:28:19.000 Oh, um, one of the I don't want this to be your last episode.

00:28:24.000 I just got back from the gym.

00:28:25.000 I'm healthy as fuck.

00:28:26.000 Don't worry.

00:28:26.000 No, no, you look wonderful.

00:28:27.000 Thank you very much.

00:28:29.000 You look bigger than last time.

00:28:30.000 You've been bulking up.

00:28:30.000 Been lifting weights.

00:28:32.000 Pump it up.

00:28:32.000 Nice and healthy.

00:28:33.000 We should talk about this.

00:28:34.000 I just hired a trainer.

00:28:35.000 Yeah.

00:28:35.000 Did you?

00:28:35.000 Really?

00:28:36.000 I lost, and nobody will know this because I wear such expensive clothes, but I lost 40 pounds in four and a half months.

00:28:44.000 What'd you do?

00:28:45.000 That's amazing.

00:28:46.000 Your face looks very thin.

00:28:46.000 Just not easy.

00:28:47.000 Yeah, like from last season.

00:28:48.000 I saw you in October, right?

00:28:49.000 Yeah.

00:28:50.000 Look at this in my jawline.

00:28:51.000 Yes.

00:28:51.000 First sculpted.

00:28:53.000 And I lost like four inches off my waist in like four and a half months, just being disciplined.

00:28:57.000 Just making sure you worked out.

00:28:58.000 Well, really just diet.

00:29:00.000 And now I'm working on, you know, washing it.

00:29:02.000 Cut sugar out?

00:29:03.000 Yeah.

00:29:03.000 That's the big one.

00:29:04.000 Everything, really.

00:29:06.000 I was just used to just protein and leaves, really.

00:29:09.000 Do you get blood work done?

00:29:10.000 No, I haven't, but I do it like twice a year for insurance and everything is off the chart.

00:29:15.000 You should do it to a real, go to a really good some doctor that understands nutrient levels and the mechanisms for absorption and he can tell you like what you're doing wrong, what you're doing right, what you need to add.

00:29:29.000 I just hired something.

00:29:29.000 I'm on a battery of supplements now because I've just started my lifting program.

00:29:34.000 We call them crazy pills because I can never remember the long names for things.

00:29:37.000 You'd know what they all are.

00:29:38.000 Just these things for GABA things, things for mitochondria, things for testosterone, things of all sorts.

00:29:45.000 But when you have you back next year, I'm going to be balked.

00:29:48.000 Well, I want to go to Yale this year and give a talk on cultural appropriation, which you mentioned earlier.

00:29:53.000 And you want to do it in a skin-tight leotard?

00:29:55.000 No, that's a different date.

00:29:57.000 I want to do it in full Native American costume.

00:30:01.000 I want my tits out. 1.00

00:30:02.000 I understand.

00:30:03.000 I want to look good.

00:30:03.000 Yeah, I want to look hot.

00:30:05.000 Yeah, is that cultural appropriation?

00:30:08.000 That's a weird, weird.

00:30:09.000 Oh, it's just a lie the left.

00:30:11.000 Yeah, it's just a lie the left tells you to try to control you, to try and make you feel racist, try and make you feel insecure.

00:30:16.000 Well, you say the left.

00:30:17.000 Some people that are very insecure that want to do that.

00:30:20.000 Like that one small boy who got attacked by that girl in school and she was threatening to cut his hair.

00:30:26.000 Yeah, because he had dreadlocks.

00:30:27.000 He looked really good with them.

00:30:29.000 He looked better than he would have looked without the dreadlocks.

00:30:31.000 He did.

00:30:31.000 No, I'm serious.

00:30:32.000 No, I'm serious.

00:30:33.000 No, listen, this is.

00:30:34.000 The problem with that is, of course, you know, dreadlocks are not an African-American thing.

00:30:38.000 I mean, no, they're not.

00:30:40.000 But this is precisely my point.

00:30:42.000 The Greeks, the Romans, I mean, they go on forever. 1.00

00:30:44.000 This is what I'm going to say to them.

00:30:46.000 This is precisely my point.

00:30:47.000 You know, cultural appropriation isn't this sort of like weird racism that ends in like 1950 or whatever, the left thing.

00:30:52.000 It's how art works.

00:30:54.000 Famous cultural appropriators from history include Mozart, Picasso, Wagner.

00:31:00.000 Are you going to start saying, oh, Wagner shouldn't have been drawing from the Norse Edder and from the Nibelungen Leed and all of these sort of Norse myths that he used to craft their English Nibelungen because that's cultural appropriators.

00:31:10.000 These people are insane.

00:31:12.000 They've never read a book.

00:31:13.000 They've never read a book.

00:31:15.000 They don't understand how history and art work.

00:31:17.000 And it's so frustrating to see impressionable, young, smart people start to soak this stuff up because they just never hear the alternatives, which is what my college tour is for.

00:31:25.000 Because it just shocks me.

00:31:27.000 It's just based on such a such historical ignorance.

00:31:27.000 It's horrifying.

00:31:31.000 Well, it's a target of recreational outrage.

00:31:34.000 Yes, it is.

00:31:34.000 Yeah.

00:31:35.000 And it is recreational.

00:31:36.000 You're right, Bob.

00:31:36.000 Yeah, they found an area.

00:31:38.000 Like, that woman who was picking on that boy with the dreadlocks, it was very clear, a girl and boy, whatever.

00:31:44.000 It's very clear that she was a bully.

00:31:46.000 And he was a small, tiny, feeble little guy, and she was fucking with him for me.

00:31:50.000 Yes, she was.

00:31:51.000 Yes, she was.

00:31:52.000 And, you know, this is the self-loathing thing, which so often turns into bullying.

00:31:56.000 And when you hear, you know about her background as well, right?

00:31:58.000 She grew up in foster care.

00:32:00.000 She had a very horrible childhood.

00:32:01.000 Damaged is all hell.

00:32:02.000 Damaged as all.

00:32:04.000 She wants the rest of the world to suffer like she thinks she suffered. 1.00

00:32:06.000 Maybe she did suffer, but this is.

00:32:08.000 She probably did, and I'm sorry about that.

00:32:08.000 She probably did.

00:32:10.000 But cultural appropriation, like having a go at somebody for wearing dreadlocks is not the way to get over your damage.

00:32:16.000 The way to get over your damage is therapy and drugs.

00:32:18.000 You know, like just to deal with yourself.

00:32:20.000 Yeah, it's just sad that this is something that has become a thing.

00:32:25.000 And it's a repeating thing.

00:32:26.000 Well, I'm going to cut it off at the root because it's nonsense.

00:32:29.000 It's garbage.

00:32:30.000 Garbage.

00:32:31.000 I don't know if you're capable completely on your own of cutting it off, but I salute you and your attitude.

00:32:36.000 I'm going to do it.

00:32:37.000 Just with that Indian outfit? 0.99

00:32:38.000 Oh, no, no, no.

00:32:39.000 I've got a huge variety of outfits planned for this year.

00:32:42.000 I'm going to wear everything.

00:32:44.000 Everything the left finds offensive.

00:32:45.000 What is the most offensive?

00:32:47.000 Native American stuff?

00:32:48.000 It's usually the people that were the most malignant.

00:32:50.000 Oppressed.

00:32:51.000 And oppressed.

00:32:52.000 I think Native American.

00:32:53.000 Because it's Yale and they're very hypersensitive.

00:32:55.000 Because the smart kids aren't violent like some of them have been.

00:32:58.000 The smart kids just lose their minds and just start spurging out.

00:33:03.000 So I think the Native American stuff annoys them the most because they know the cultural appropriation element of it is such rubbish and if they actually cared, they would quit the college that is on a burial ground or something, or whatever the hell Yale is built on.

00:33:20.000 I think it's because they know it's so absurd and insane.

00:33:24.000 Of course, they're even more upset about it because the stakes are so low.

00:33:29.000 I think Native American is going to be good.

00:33:31.000 I'm not sure if I can do blackface.

00:33:34.000 I'll have to ask my editor about that.

00:33:35.000 You can, and you must.

00:33:37.000 I think I can.

00:33:38.000 Why can't you?

00:33:38.000 Dave Chappelle did whiteface on TV.

00:33:40.000 I mean, I think I can.

00:33:41.000 Why not?

00:33:42.000 I think I can.

00:33:42.000 And so did Mariah Carey's ex-husband.

00:33:45.000 Did he?

00:33:45.000 The pretty one.

00:33:47.000 Nick Cannon did.

00:33:47.000 Nick Cannon.

00:33:48.000 I did whiteface. 0.86

00:33:49.000 Yeah, he did.

00:33:50.000 I think it's fine.

00:33:51.000 But don't you know that it's impossible to be racist against white people?

00:33:55.000 Don't you know?

00:33:57.000 Isn't that the most adorable thing that people have created to try to justify black racism against white people? 0.92

00:34:05.000 That it is not possible.

00:34:06.000 Yeah, you know what it is?

00:34:07.000 And it's this amazing combination of ignorance and condescension.

00:34:14.000 Because they're stupid and they've never read a history book and they don't understand how bigotry or hatred works or any kind of historical function or any psychological process whatsoever.

00:34:23.000 And at the same time, they're trying to explain to you how you actually don't know what racism means.

00:34:28.000 You see, racism isn't just thinking another race isn't as good as yours.

00:34:32.000 Racism is actually a complex system of prejudice, oppression.

00:34:35.000 You only have to, it can only be done if you have power and white people have power. 1.00

00:34:39.000 Black people don't have any power. 1.00

00:34:41.000 It's not like there's a black president.

00:34:43.000 That's weird because at my college talk, it was black people forcing me off stage while the university administration told Chicago PD not to intervene.

00:34:49.000 I mean, what are you doing?

00:34:50.000 Well, this is at DePaul, a Catholic University, which has some of the most enthusiastic abortion advocates on campus anywhere in America.

00:34:58.000 I heard, and I don't know if this is true, that they asked to abortion.

00:35:01.000 No, they do.

00:35:02.000 It's one of the most left-wing places in the world.

00:35:05.000 Funny expression, enthusiastic abortion advocates.

00:35:08.000 Oh, they love abortions. 1.00

00:35:08.000 Are you kidding me? 1.00

00:35:09.000 No, I'm not joking.

00:35:11.000 This isn't just me.

00:35:12.000 They go like, you know, is it Lindy West, the guardian?

00:35:15.000 She's like, you know, shout your abortion. 1.00

00:35:17.000 It was a feminist hashtag. 1.00

00:35:18.000 It trended.

00:35:19.000 They're proud of it.

00:35:20.000 They're proud of murdering babies.

00:35:22.000 They are perfectly happy to talk about it.

00:35:23.000 They think it's a mark of pride.

00:35:25.000 Like, I don't make this stuff up.

00:35:27.000 I just laugh along with everybody else.

00:35:29.000 You know, I didn't invent this.

00:35:30.000 They love abortions. 0.97

00:35:32.000 It's like a badge of honor.

00:35:33.000 It's like scout badges, you know?

00:35:34.000 Like, how many of you had, sister?

00:35:36.000 Like, I'm serious.

00:35:37.000 These people are insane.

00:35:40.000 I'm a favor of abortion as long as you can't tell what it looks like. 0.98

00:35:45.000 As soon as it starts looking like a baby.

00:35:47.000 You're trying to shock me and I am unshockable.

00:35:49.000 As soon as it starts looking like...

00:35:50.000 I mean, I'm never...

00:35:58.000 Technically, we differ on that one.

00:36:01.000 Well, it becomes a different thing.

00:36:01.000 We differ on that one.

00:36:03.000 Well, I'm not sure.

00:36:05.000 Do you think there's a difference?

00:36:06.000 I'm hardline on that.

00:36:06.000 You're hardline.

00:36:08.000 You're saying you can't tell anybody what they can and can't do with their body.

00:36:11.000 Well, it isn't just about the woman's body once she becomes pregnant. 0.77

00:36:14.000 She's responsible for another body, another soul, another human being.

00:36:16.000 And let's not get into the soul thing because we had a very ugly, very unproductive conversation about that last time.

00:36:21.000 But just, you know, this is another human being, and that woman has soul custody, if you like, and sole. 1.00

00:36:27.000 If you have a cluster of cells, if it's like literally four or five cells.

00:36:30.000 And just get sucked out.

00:36:33.000 Stop it.

00:36:34.000 What do we do there?

00:36:34.000 Stop it.

00:36:35.000 Is that okay?

00:36:36.000 Look, as a gay person, I have to be against abortion because as soon as they start working out what the gay gene, whatever is it, you know, it's us that are going to get chopped.

00:36:36.000 Stop it.

00:36:43.000 Because nobody wants a gay kid if you've got the choice. 1.00

00:36:45.000 Except from Sally Cohn, the stupidest woman. 1.00

00:36:47.000 The stupidest woman in America. 1.00

00:36:47.000 Gay people who are. 1.00

00:36:48.000 Who's Sally Cohn? 0.99

00:36:49.000 Sally Cohn.

00:36:56.000 She's the stupidest woman in America. 1.00

00:36:58.000 Really?

00:36:58.000 She's the one.

00:36:59.000 Yeah, no, no, she is up against stiff competition.

00:37:01.000 She is the stupidest woman in America. 1.00

00:37:02.000 She's the one who said after Orlando.

00:37:05.000 No, I'm serious.

00:37:05.000 She is.

00:37:06.000 She's the one after Orlando who said, oh, well, you know what?

00:37:09.000 Actually, conservative Christians treat us way worse than any of my moderate Muslim friends.

00:37:18.000 She just used a Muslim who had been trained in the, you know, had been indoctrinated in this mosque in the north of Orlando, what is it, in Sanford, in Orlando, by this guy who had been there three weeks before and he was on the record as saying the compassionate thing to do was to murder all homosexuals.

00:37:37.000 This is what's happening in Orlando.

00:37:38.000 This guy, grown up in that environment, went out, murdered 49 gay people and maimed another 50, and she's upset about people who won't bake cakes.

00:37:46.000 I mean, she is the stupidest woman in America. 1.00

00:37:48.000 Anyway, what are we talking about?

00:37:51.000 I don't even remember.

00:37:52.000 No.

00:37:53.000 Culture appropriation?

00:37:55.000 Abortions. 0.94

00:37:56.000 Abortion, yes. 1.00

00:37:57.000 The gay gene, Sally Collins. 0.93

00:37:58.000 Yes, there we go.

00:38:00.000 No, she said she famously, well, not famously because she's not famous because she's just a sort of amusement on Twitter, but she, she is on CNN, weirdly.

00:38:11.000 She said she'd like a gay kid.

00:38:12.000 She specifically wants a gay child, which I thought was just sort of weird and so. 0.70

00:38:18.000 Well, why not just want a child or want, you know, a smart, athletic, beautiful, popular kid?

00:38:23.000 No, she wants a gay one. 0.98

00:38:24.000 Why?

00:38:25.000 Because she's a narcissist and she doesn't care about anything that's going to happen to that child in its lifetime, any of the unhappy things that might happen to that child. 1.00

00:38:30.000 And I'm not talking about bigotry or whatever.

00:38:32.000 Let's say we cure homophobia.

00:38:33.000 Great.

00:38:34.000 But I'm having sex with somebody and cannot create a child with the person I love in the act of intercourse.

00:38:39.000 Like, that's kind of rough, frankly.

00:38:42.000 You know, it's not great.

00:38:43.000 And a lot of people don't go through their lives thinking about that, but that has occurred to me in the past.

00:38:47.000 There are many reasons why you might not choose to be gay, all else being equal.

00:38:51.000 And she's just a sort of narcissistic sociopath and weirdo. 1.00

00:38:54.000 But most people, I think, if we believe the gay lobby, which lies and says people are gays are born this Way, which of course is rubbish.

00:39:02.000 If we believe them and we find, and if scientists come up, I mean maybe they're right.

00:39:06.000 If they are right and scientists come up with this gay gene, well, what's the first group of people to go? 1.00

00:39:10.000 It's me.

00:39:11.000 Anyway, I don't, I don't know.

00:39:13.000 There's a lot of shit going on in these conversations, these sentences.

00:39:16.000 They go one way and another way.

00:39:18.000 That's how my brain works.

00:39:19.000 I'm sorry.

00:39:21.000 But you don't think that being born gay is a real thing?

00:39:24.000 You said that's a good idea.

00:39:25.000 It's obviously a mixture of nature and nurture, but the gay lobby lies and says it's all...

00:39:25.000 No, it's obviously a mixture.

00:39:30.000 The reason they did it is in the 80s and 90s because the religious right were saying that being gay was a bad moral choice.

00:39:36.000 It was a bad lifestyle choice, right?

00:39:38.000 Remember that expression?

00:39:39.000 And, of course, Christians would say, you know, hate the sin, love the sinner, and all the rest of it.

00:39:44.000 And there was this problem because gay people were like, well, the gay lobby were like, well, by their logic, they're right. 0.99

00:39:49.000 What can we do with this?

00:39:50.000 Aha, what if we're like blacks?

00:39:52.000 Or what if we're like women? 1.00

00:39:53.000 What if this is just what we are?

00:39:55.000 Because that makes them bigots.

00:39:56.000 So they invented this born this way thing.

00:39:58.000 And the truth is that nobody knows.

00:39:59.000 Well, did you ever see the study that was done, I believe it was out of the University of Rome, where they found a direct correlation between very promiscuous mothers and gay children? 0.96

00:40:08.000 Right.

00:40:09.000 Well, there are some people who think that things like that might have dual effects.

00:40:15.000 There could be genetic or even epigenetic, if you buy into that stuff.

00:40:18.000 There could be epigenetic factors in the womb and hormonal stuff that comes about as a result of a woman having a high sex drive that might result in a gay kid. 1.00

00:40:25.000 But also, when the kid is born, if the mum's still a whore, then maybe... 1.00

00:40:30.000 I'm just saying.

00:40:31.000 You know, if mummy's putting... 0.97

00:40:31.000 Right. 0.97

00:40:38.000 Of course it could.

00:40:39.000 So that one, I do remember that, although I didn't read it closely.

00:40:42.000 do remember that one and I think that what I came away from that with was if you have a hoe for a mom there's probably multiple reasons you might end up gay. 0.99

00:40:50.000 Yeah, there was...

00:40:51.000 They didn't go that far with it because when you start accusing that means you're making these But that's not something a university would ever say.

00:41:03.000 No, because they're idiots.

00:41:04.000 Because they don't actually want to get to the truth.

00:41:05.000 They want a virtue signal.

00:41:07.000 There's a little bit of that, but it's also one of those things where it's just really problematic.

00:41:12.000 You can't.

00:41:12.000 You can say that unironically, though.

00:41:14.000 Yeah, you can't prove it.

00:41:15.000 Well, expecting women to tell the truth about their sex lives is like expecting fat people to tell the truth about their calorific intake. 1.00

00:41:20.000 It just doesn't happen.

00:41:21.000 Well, they believe that somehow or another it was some sort of a variation in the X chromosome that made these women not just psychologically attracted to men, but that there was, obviously there's some sort of a physical attraction that heterosexual women have towards men.

00:41:37.000 And that should vary, and it will vary on a wide scale.

00:41:39.000 And at the extreme end of the scale, they believe this just, these women that are just almost like, you roll a dick in front of them, they're like a kitten on a ball of yarn. 0.99

00:41:47.000 They just can't help it.

00:41:48.000 They know how they feel.

00:41:50.000 And that these women will pass this trait on even to their male children. 1.00

00:41:55.000 Interesting, interesting.

00:41:56.000 See, my mother's quite frigid, so it just goes to show that the etiology of homosexuality is varied and complex.

00:42:04.000 Anyway, the only point I'm making is simply every credible scientist, every reasonable person knows that it is almost certainly a mixture of nature and nurture, and that that mix can change from person to person, right?

00:42:15.000 All of these things can get mixed up and end up with somebody choosing to fuck a guy or not fuck a guy, right?

00:42:21.000 But the gay lobby, because they were scared and because they wanted an easy answer, came up with this, whatever.

00:42:28.000 Now it's embedded in culture, Lady Gaga born this way, and it's a lie.

00:42:31.000 I mean, it's a lie.

00:42:32.000 Saying that, you know, if something is like not black and white, and it's like probably actually probably about 50-50, saying it's entirely black is a lie, and that's a lie.

00:42:43.000 And the gay lobby lies to gay people. 0.82

00:42:45.000 That's partially born this way doesn't make a good song.

00:42:49.000 Partially born this way sounds like something you'd see on a Planned Parenthood form.

00:42:54.000 It's like something that David Daleiden has exposed in his undercover videos.

00:42:59.000 On returning to the abortion thing, I don't...

00:43:09.000 There's a lot going on there to discuss.

00:43:12.000 And when you're talking about a very small cluster of cells...

00:43:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:43:17.000 Really?

00:43:18.000 From that moment on, you're locked into this nine-month journey with a human inside your body.

00:43:23.000 If you want to murder it, then go ahead and murder it, but be honest about what you're doing and don't call it women's bodily choices because that is sociopathy. 1.00

00:43:30.000 If it's two cells, it's murder.

00:43:33.000 I think I'm going to have to say yes.

00:43:34.000 Wow.

00:43:35.000 That's a hard line.

00:43:36.000 You're a hardliner, sir.

00:43:37.000 I'm not hardline on very many things, aside from the fact that feminists are ugly and stupid. 1.00

00:43:42.000 In Eastern mysticism, what is it?

00:43:44.000 48 days where they believe the soul enters the body.

00:43:48.000 That's the formation of the pineal gland, and that's the seat of the soul.

00:43:53.000 Isn't that like 48 days?

00:43:55.000 I don't know about Eastern mysticism is not an area that I've put in the city.

00:44:00.000 But if it's like a new house with no one in it.

00:44:03.000 If it's a new house and no one in it, then it's still a house.

00:44:05.000 It's still a house.

00:44:07.000 Yeah, but if it gets wrecked and no one has any memories, it's no big deal.

00:44:11.000 If you say so.

00:44:13.000 I'm just playing Devil's Out Get.

00:44:15.000 You do that.

00:44:17.000 I like that.

00:44:17.000 I think you've got...

00:44:21.000 Like the E-N-T-J stuff? 0.99

00:44:23.000 Well, explain that to people.

00:44:24.000 Well, so there's basically it's this system of personality types.

00:44:28.000 And apparently, you can do sort of a 50-question test or whatever, and it'll come up with this thing called INTJ, E-NFP, and it's supposed to be able to predict what kind of job you would be good at and predict your sort of characteristics and behaviors and who else in the world you'll get on with and how you'll succeed in life.

00:44:45.000 So I've got like the lawyer's one, the devil's advocate one.

00:44:47.000 I think you have it too.

00:44:48.000 And it's a sort of voracious appetite for information, love to read and find out about everything, love to talk to smart people, love to be provocative and interesting, and sometimes adopt positions you don't necessarily hold because the debate is fascinating.

00:45:01.000 And love just the cut and thrust of intellectual argument.

00:45:05.000 Discourse.

00:45:06.000 Yeah, I think you have that too.

00:45:07.000 So yeah, that's, well, if you believe in such things.

00:45:10.000 Yeah, no, I do.

00:45:11.000 But I think also I'm a different person, you know, every six or seven months.

00:45:16.000 I mean, I think I'm constantly evolving and growing and reevaluating, or at least attempting to.

00:45:22.000 And I'm definitely a different person than I was 10 or 20 years ago.

00:45:25.000 So if you take that into consideration, that's my problem with a lot of these tests.

00:45:30.000 What they're doing is they're sort of testing who you are right now.

00:45:34.000 And one of the problems with those definitions is the self-defining aspects of it.

00:45:39.000 Like you start saying, well, this is me and this is who I am.

00:45:41.000 Instead of just being a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy, you think you're locked in.

00:45:45.000 Yeah, no, I understand.

00:45:46.000 That's another one of the things I like about you.

00:45:48.000 I should stop complimenting you.

00:45:49.000 It's another one of the things I like about you: you have a great, a well-developed sense of intellectual humility, and you're always sort of open and learning.

00:45:57.000 And I like that because I think you have to be.

00:45:59.000 I mean, there's no way I like her like that.

00:46:01.000 In this day and age, we have so many subjects that you can extract information from.

00:46:08.000 It is impossible to know everything about everything.

00:46:10.000 And all these subjects that we're discussing, they all change.

00:46:14.000 New data comes in constantly, and to pretend that you know everything about everything is just, you couldn't, you can't, you could do that in 1990.

00:46:20.000 You can't do that today.

00:46:21.000 It's foolish.

00:46:22.000 What they say about facts in science have a half-life of seven years.

00:46:25.000 You know, everything that you think you know in science becomes wrong in under a decade.

00:46:29.000 And in every field, nutrition, biology, it's just constantly changing.

00:46:32.000 Yeah, no, I find that fascinating.

00:46:34.000 It's sort of radical uncertainty about everything around you.

00:46:37.000 But I think this is why people like to grasp the certainty, and it is why I'm going to hand you an argument here because I know you don't like religion very much.

00:46:44.000 This is why people like faith so much because it gives them an anchor in a very uncertain, disintermediated sort of, a very uncertain, you know, globalized, confusing world where everyone is sort of uprooted and thrown in this maelstrom where nothing seems constant or true.

00:47:00.000 And local communities have been broken down by big states that take the role of parents and blah, blah, blah.

00:47:06.000 I think people cleave to that stuff.

00:47:08.000 But they also, of course, cleave to less helpful systems of belief.

00:47:12.000 Like feminism. 1.00

00:47:13.000 Well, I think you're right.

00:47:14.000 And I think you can equate those two together.

00:47:16.000 And I think that a lot of what faith does, even if it's not based on a real thing, it's a scaffolding for security.

00:47:26.000 It's a scaffolding for a reasonable view of the world you live in.

00:47:32.000 Having some moral guidelines that you can follow that allow you to live a life with more positive moments than negative moments because you're sort of gravitating towards those in a Christian sense.

00:47:42.000 And, you know, I don't get involved in conversations trying to sort of persuade people of the existence of God because it's so completely pointless.

00:47:42.000 Right.

00:47:50.000 But let's just say that this is a variety of belief systems from which you can choose, well, which ones are better?

00:47:56.000 Because there are some that are good and some that are bad.

00:47:58.000 Yes.

00:47:59.000 And I would say feminism and the race baiting of Black Lives Matter and Islam are bad.

00:48:03.000 Christianity on the whole is good, or at least has had pretty good effects and pretty good influences.

00:48:07.000 Well, it's also had some horrible effects.

00:48:10.000 Especially in the past.

00:48:11.000 We weren't going to do this.

00:48:12.000 We're in the position.

00:48:14.000 Sure, whatever.

00:48:15.000 Islam hasn't gone through the Enlightenment. 0.98

00:48:17.000 I mean, did you ever see it?

00:48:18.000 I don't think it's getting one.

00:48:20.000 You don't think it's impossible?

00:48:22.000 It's a possible change?

00:48:24.000 I think it's highly unlikely that Islam will ever get to it. 1.00

00:48:28.000 I don't think it's ever going to engage properly with the modern world.

00:48:30.000 I think it just needs to be eradicated.

00:48:33.000 Wow.

00:48:34.000 And I've come to this conclusion after all, Lando.

00:48:34.000 Yeah.

00:48:37.000 I've stopped being polite about Islam. 1.00

00:48:37.000 You know what? 1.00

00:48:38.000 I know as one of them.

00:48:39.000 I stopped being polite about it.

00:48:41.000 Don't you think that's a good idea?

00:48:42.000 That's a self-hating gay guy as well.

00:48:45.000 I mean, wasn't he gay?

00:48:46.000 I mean, isn't it?

00:48:47.000 They're self-hating gay Christians. 0.82

00:48:49.000 They don't shoot up nightclubs.

00:48:50.000 But they could.

00:48:52.000 Like, the guy who shot up those people in the movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, that guy wasn't Islamic. 0.85

00:48:52.000 They haven't. 0.85

00:48:57.000 He was just some nutty fuck.

00:48:59.000 This guy just happened to be gay, self-loathing, had guns. 0.99

00:49:02.000 Yeah, but we're reading into a nutcase, right?

00:49:06.000 Various different things.

00:49:08.000 And as you correctly say, and I think have pinned on your Twitter account, we have a mental health problem in this country, not a gun problem.

00:49:14.000 Which I think is disguised.

00:49:15.000 It's a good observation.

00:49:17.000 This particular guy clearly drew on things that he was being taught by his faith, and declared that he was doing it in the name of his faith and in the name of ISIS, right?

00:49:28.000 At some point, you got to take the guy at his word.

00:49:30.000 Dave Chappelle has a great joke about it.

00:49:33.000 I don't want to give away his bit, but essentially, it's quite a funny bit.

00:49:38.000 Just do it.

00:49:39.000 He goes, you can't claim something right before you do it, like right about to eat a girl's pussy. 0.99

00:49:44.000 You go, Wu-Tang!

00:49:45.000 Like, you can't.

00:49:48.000 You can't claim you're in the Wu-Tang clan just by saying it right before you do it.

00:49:52.000 I think it's fairly obvious from this guy's history.

00:49:56.000 I mean, he was on the FBI watch list, but it's, yeah, it is funny.

00:49:59.000 It is funny.

00:49:59.000 At some point, you've just got to accept when people say they're doing it in the name of Allah.

00:50:04.000 Okay, fine, we get it.

00:50:05.000 Like, good.

00:50:05.000 But that.

00:50:07.000 You know, like, him saying that he was doing it for ISIS, that he pledged allegiance to ISIS.

00:50:12.000 He didn't have a history with ISIS.

00:50:14.000 He was on the FBI watch list twice.

00:50:16.000 He was a political.

00:50:17.000 He was out of Islam.

00:50:19.000 He was an Islamic radical, right? 0.71

00:50:20.000 I mean, you know, there's no reason to have anybody with those surnames in this country at all.

00:50:24.000 Whoa, fucking tired of being.

00:50:27.000 What about Aziz Ansari?

00:50:29.000 Oh, God.

00:50:30.000 He deserves to be deported solely because he's so unfunny.

00:50:34.000 He's so unfunny.

00:50:36.000 I would deport boring, unfunny people before Muslims, before feminists, before vapors, before cyclists. 1.00

00:50:43.000 Vapors.

00:50:44.000 Oh, vapors have got to go.

00:50:45.000 People.

00:50:46.000 Vapors have got to go.

00:50:47.000 They've got to go.

00:50:48.000 Over the wall.

00:50:49.000 Deport.

00:50:49.000 Now, even the blue cigarettes, or are you talking about the people that are holding on to the water bottles with tubes on the end of them?

00:50:55.000 The steampunk thing?

00:50:56.000 Yeah, whatever.

00:50:57.000 Those people shouldn't just be deported.

00:50:59.000 They should be executed publicly.

00:51:04.000 No, I'm serious.

00:51:05.000 My friend Jonathan has one of those.

00:51:06.000 Jonathan in Canada, if you're hearing this.

00:51:08.000 Of course he does.

00:51:08.000 He's Canadian.

00:51:09.000 Canadian.

00:51:10.000 He lives in Alberta.

00:51:10.000 He's a good man.

00:51:13.000 Gosh, can you imagine?

00:51:15.000 Can you imagine living in Alberta?

00:51:17.000 Alberta's beautiful in the summer.

00:51:18.000 Oh, please.

00:51:19.000 But you're playing.

00:51:20.000 But you're surrounded by Canada.

00:51:22.000 Canada is one of my favorite places in the world.

00:51:24.000 Because the people are awesome.

00:51:24.000 Why?

00:51:25.000 Because it reminds you how great America is.

00:51:27.000 They're awesome people.

00:51:28.000 They're really nice.

00:51:29.000 No, they're not.

00:51:30.000 They're the nicest fucking people in the world.

00:51:30.000 They're very nice.

00:51:32.000 They really are.

00:51:33.000 I don't like nice.

00:51:35.000 I don't like nice.

00:51:36.000 But you like me, and I'm nice.

00:51:37.000 You're lovely.

00:51:38.000 You're like my little exception.

00:51:39.000 I'm a little exception.

00:51:41.000 You don't look nice.

00:51:42.000 I think that's how I get over it, you know?

00:51:43.000 You look like you're about to rob me, which I think is the only reason I can put up with your nice personality.

00:51:48.000 You know, because I can sort of be like clutching my wallet with one hand and my dick with the other.

00:51:52.000 Just kidding.

00:51:57.000 Woo! 0.99

00:51:58.000 Just kidding.

00:51:59.000 Yeah.

00:51:59.000 Didn't mean it.

00:52:00.000 Canadians, they are nice.

00:52:02.000 They're great people.

00:52:02.000 No.

00:52:04.000 It's a lost country.

00:52:05.000 Russell Peters, Canadian.

00:52:07.000 New kit.

00:52:07.000 Love him to death.

00:52:08.000 New kit.

00:52:10.000 Well, the new prime minister.

00:52:12.000 Oh, is he doing that?

00:52:13.000 he's doing some odd stuff.

00:52:14.000 He's so good.

00:52:15.000 He's doing some odd stuff.

00:52:16.000 This new thing about the identity cards of having the option of not having a gender.

00:52:25.000 You could fill out a tack helicopter if you want.

00:52:27.000 Gender neutral.

00:52:28.000 You can be gender neutral.

00:52:29.000 With the national anthem.

00:52:30.000 The Canadian national anthem.

00:52:32.000 They're taking him and her out of it or something.

00:52:34.000 They've done it.

00:52:35.000 No, no, I know I didn't make this up.

00:52:38.000 You can look this up if you're listening, because I know I didn't make this up.

00:52:41.000 The Canadian national anthem, they're removing gender-specific references from it.

00:52:44.000 I was like, these people are insane.

00:52:45.000 Well, here's what's insane about it.

00:52:47.000 What are the numbers we're talking about?

00:52:48.000 The people that have a massive issue with a male or female gender?

00:52:52.000 Personally.

00:52:54.000 Who wants to be gender neutral? 1.00

00:52:55.000 Well, lots of young kids because they're confused and because they're told that's the thing to do.

00:52:59.000 These people's frontal lobes haven't formed yet, right?

00:53:01.000 And they're being told by culture and by their professors and by everything around them that, you know, they don't have to be a man or a woman.

00:53:09.000 Of course it is.

00:53:10.000 This is what some of the transgender people call...

00:53:16.000 What is this?

00:53:16.000 Canadian Parliament is close to adopting a bill that would change the national anthem, O Canada, to make it gender neutral.

00:53:23.000 And is this because of the new Prime Minister?

00:53:25.000 This is Trudeau.

00:53:26.000 This is Trudeau.

00:53:26.000 And when I said he was gay, I don't necessarily mean that he sucks, Dick, although I'm sure he has.

00:53:30.000 You think so?

00:53:31.000 Oh, for sure.

00:53:32.000 Really?

00:53:32.000 Look at that.

00:53:32.000 Oh, that is a face just begging to be come on.

00:53:35.000 I mean, this is...

00:53:38.000 I've seen men like this in clubs before, whose wives pick them up afterwards. 0.96

00:53:42.000 No, I know, I know.

00:53:43.000 Do the wives pick them up? 1.00

00:53:45.000 Of course.

00:53:45.000 Do you think the wives are in on it?

00:53:47.000 Do the wives have their own boyfriends.

00:53:48.000 Oh, good lord.

00:53:50.000 Of course.

00:53:51.000 Sordid affair.

00:53:52.000 Sordid, disgusting.

00:53:53.000 Disreputable way of way to live.

00:53:55.000 No, this.

00:53:58.000 He looks like a manly man.

00:53:59.000 Are you kidding me?

00:54:00.000 Justin Trudeau with floppy, gay hair.

00:54:04.000 No, no, he's got that puffy figure.

00:54:07.000 He's got that puffy figure, that sort of like over.

00:54:09.000 Right there, handsome man.

00:54:10.000 Oh, no.

00:54:11.000 Who does he remind me of?

00:54:13.000 He looks gay. 0.98

00:54:14.000 And I don't mean gay in the good way. 1.00

00:54:15.000 I mean he looks like a fag. 1.00

00:54:16.000 I mean he looks lame, weak, cuffy.

00:54:20.000 He's a cuck.

00:54:22.000 I didn't know.

00:54:23.000 He didn't have a full definition of cuck until a week ago.

00:54:26.000 We got into it with Joe Schilling on the podcast.

00:54:29.000 I thought cuck was just a guy whose wife gets fucked and he sort of cries.

00:54:33.000 Well, that's the porn thing.

00:54:34.000 Yeah, that's what he cranks, in fact.

00:54:37.000 Have you ever had a crank?

00:54:39.000 A crying wank?

00:54:40.000 No.

00:54:41.000 No, it's called cranking.

00:54:42.000 Oh, I didn't know.

00:54:43.000 I mean, apparently.

00:54:44.000 So the cuck would sit there and cry.

00:54:48.000 I had a crank after Brexit when the pound plummeted and I checked how much my portfolio was worth.

00:54:52.000 You were upset but happy at the same time?

00:54:54.000 Yeah, yeah, but that's a crank.

00:54:57.000 But don't you think that's a temporary drop and we just have to deal with the pressure?

00:55:00.000 Oh, of course, of course, of course, of course.

00:55:02.000 Yeah, no, it's going to rebound.

00:55:03.000 I mean, you know, if you actually don't listen to, if you don't read what Bloomberg and MSNBC are tweeting and you zoom out on the prino, on the on the pound and zoom out on the footseat, actually it doesn't look so bad at all.

00:55:17.000 You know, it's a lot of scammers.

00:55:19.000 Well, it's weird to me that everybody was always so concerned about a one-world government.

00:55:23.000 That was a big fear.

00:55:24.000 There was a big fear of a new world order, a one-world government.

00:55:27.000 It was one of the big conspiracy fears.

00:55:29.000 But then, when England decides to be its own country and exit the European Union, everybody's terrified the sky's falling.

00:55:35.000 Well, they're different people.

00:55:36.000 They're different groups.

00:55:37.000 So you had, I mean, there are some very smart people I speak to who think that globalization is basically over and that this push to, you know, to have, this push for open borders around the world hasn't worked and people don't like it.

00:55:51.000 And, you know, if you look, if you read the work of like Jonathan Haidt or whatever, you will discover that it's not a racism thing, it's an evolutionary thing.

00:55:58.000 People like being with their own tribe and that's not a racism thing.

00:56:00.000 That's just that is an evolutionary advantage because you don't have to like get over all of the cultural barriers and just get on with doing shit.

00:56:11.000 You're seeing all across the world, not just in Europe as a result of the globalist policies of Angela Merkel and all the rest of it, in Germany, Brexit in Europe, and the rise of Trump in America, people returning to nationalism, by which we don't mean racism, by which we mean simply pride in nation, culture, and all the rest of it.

00:56:29.000 And the West is the best.

00:56:32.000 Europe and America are the best bit of the world.

00:56:34.000 And people who can't get wrapped their heads around that don't understand why people might wish to preserve the cultures that created Mozart and Shakespeare and Wagner.

00:56:46.000 They don't understand why, they also don't understand the economic pressures on those people who had the global one world government conspiracy theories.

00:56:52.000 Well, they tended to be lower income people who were worried about centralization of power away from them.

00:57:01.000 These American liberals who were crowing about the Browning of America, all this kind of stuff.

00:57:04.000 Well, they're worried about their culture, their families, depressed wages, economics as well, all that kind of stuff.

00:57:08.000 The people who are worried, on the other hand, about this now are the elites.

00:57:11.000 So you're talking about two different groups.

00:57:12.000 And this is really the main fight now.

00:57:16.000 This election in America and most of the big elections and referendums over the next 10 years are going to be about two things.

00:57:23.000 One of them driven by economics and one of them driven by culture and politics.

00:57:28.000 The economics one is elites versus the proles.

00:57:32.000 It's the money international few versus the rest of us.

00:57:36.000 Proles being proletariat for people.

00:57:38.000 Right, you know, sort of the rest of us who are worried about wages, worried about immigration, worried about culture, worried about the fate of our country.

00:57:47.000 And the other one, of course, is men v. 0.58

00:57:48.000 Women, which is entirely manufactured by the left. 1.00

00:57:51.000 And I see the American election entirely through the prism of men versus women. 0.55

00:57:55.000 I think Trump versus Hillary is a clash of the Titans between the strong, blustery, outward-looking, strong male archetype versus the statist establishment feminism of Clinton and the Democrats.

00:58:13.000 This election really is men v. 0.81

00:58:14.000 Women. 0.81

00:58:15.000 And it's not nice to put it in that way, but the left did it not.

00:58:17.000 Have you seen the compilation of the things that she has said that she did versus the things that the FBI has said that she did?

00:58:26.000 Oh my God, that woman. 1.00

00:58:27.000 I have to be very careful.

00:58:29.000 I have a day job, aside from doing fun things like this.

00:58:31.000 Yes, I do have a day job as an editor at a Bright Bar, so I have to be very careful what names I call people.

00:58:37.000 Yes, but remarkable, remarkable.

00:58:41.000 The lies are out there, you can say it, very clear, remarkable, very obvious.

00:58:47.000 She did not tell the truth.

00:58:49.000 She lied about how many devices.

00:58:50.000 If you go to there's a Instagram page that has a compilation of it.

00:58:55.000 I think it's called Liberal Tears.

00:58:58.000 It goes back and forth.

00:58:59.000 Yes.

00:59:00.000 It shows what the FBI said she did and what she said she did.

00:59:04.000 She said she only used one device.

00:59:06.000 She never sent anything that was classified.

00:59:08.000 And they said she used multiple devices, sent many classified things.

00:59:12.000 I mean, it's the difference between what the FBI statement was and what she said.

00:59:12.000 And they're gone.

00:59:16.000 So she's clearly being deceptive.

00:59:18.000 But the Department of Justice is on her side, though.

00:59:20.000 I mean, you know, they said that was it, Kami, Komey, Kami?

00:59:23.000 I can't remember his name.

00:59:24.000 His name was Mario.

00:59:25.000 The guy says, we've never prosecuted.

00:59:27.000 He said this yesterday or day before.

00:59:29.000 We've never prosecuted somebody for doing what Hillary did in a way of trying to sort of explain away why they weren't pressing charges.

00:59:33.000 They have.

00:59:34.000 They've issued press releases about people in the past.

00:59:36.000 I tweeted it yesterday.

00:59:37.000 Well, what about Petraeus?

00:59:39.000 Exactly.

00:59:40.000 General Petraeus.

00:59:40.000 This is the whole reason why he was removed.

00:59:43.000 They have issued press releases crowing about finding these guys in the past.

00:59:46.000 You know, this just shows you how dumb Fox News can be sometimes, thinking that there was going to be an indictment here.

00:59:52.000 Everybody knew Democrats don't indict Democrats, right?

00:59:55.000 Well, don't.

00:59:56.000 Democratic presidency.

00:59:57.000 Hillary was never going to be indicted with Obama in the White House.

01:00:00.000 It was not going to happen.

01:00:01.000 Not only that, if she does get indicted and she gets removed from the race, who the fuck is there on the Democratic side?

01:00:06.000 Unless Joe Biden.

01:00:08.000 Get Bernie back in the Bible.

01:00:09.000 But I like Bernie.

01:00:10.000 No, I like him.

01:00:11.000 And I like him.

01:00:12.000 I do too.

01:00:12.000 And, you know, look, the Bernie supporters fall into two camps.

01:00:15.000 They're like the crazy gender activists and race baiters, but I think that's probably only 20% of Bernie people.

01:00:20.000 And the rest of the Bernie fans aren't that dissimilar from Trump fans.

01:00:24.000 They're people who don't like the establishment, are sick of being lied to, are fed up of the consequences of globalization on native populations, if you like, worried about all sorts of things.

01:00:34.000 And they express themselves very differently from the Trump fans.

01:00:36.000 They don't use the same language.

01:00:38.000 But even the, I mean, the polls are saying, what is it, 20, 30% of Bernie supporters might come over to Trump in the election.

01:00:43.000 It doesn't surprise me at all.

01:00:44.000 No.

01:00:44.000 Because they're very similar people.

01:00:46.000 I liked Bernie's supporters, and I like Bernie Saunders.

01:00:48.000 I think he's all right.

01:00:49.000 Hillary's the enemy. 1.00

01:00:51.000 Well, she is the establishment. 1.00

01:00:53.000 I mean, she is as established a politician as you could possibly get, and she is deep, deep, deep in the system. 1.00

01:00:59.000 And there's just a lot of darkness to that.

01:01:01.000 There's a lot of danger to that.

01:01:02.000 There's a lot of danger to embracing that just simply because she has a vagina. 1.00

01:01:06.000 My wife is going to vote for her. 1.00

01:01:08.000 Just because she has a vagina. 1.00

01:01:11.000 I do all those things to her.

01:01:12.000 It doesn't help.

01:01:17.000 Here's the video.

01:01:19.000 Here's the video.

01:01:20.000 Listen to this.

01:01:21.000 Listen to this.

01:01:23.000 Classified material to anyone.

01:01:26.000 There is no classified material.

01:01:28.000 110 emails in 52 email chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.

01:01:40.000 I provided all my emails that could possibly be work-related.

01:01:44.000 Several thousand work-related emails that were not among the group of 30,000 emails returned by Secretary Clinton.

01:01:52.000 I thought using one device would be simpler.

01:01:55.000 She also used numerous mobile devices to send and to read email.

01:01:59.000 There were no security breaches.

01:02:02.000 It is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton's personal email account.

01:02:07.000 It was my practice to communicate with State Department and other government officials on their .gov accounts.

01:02:14.000 Hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account.

01:02:24.000 No doubt that we've done exactly what we should have done.

01:02:27.000 They were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified emails.

01:02:32.000 This is very nicely structured.

01:02:35.000 We cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts.

01:02:40.000 Thank you.

01:02:43.000 To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences.

01:02:52.000 Americans will find that interesting, and I look forward to having a discussion about that.

01:02:59.000 Nice.

01:03:00.000 Nice.

01:03:01.000 She's a crook. 1.00

01:03:02.000 She's crooked Hillary as the sainted God-Emperor Donald Trump. 1.00

01:03:08.000 That's just a liar.

01:03:09.000 I mean, that is just a liar.

01:03:11.000 Aren't you looking forward to the debates, though?

01:03:14.000 I mean, I am, but the problem is, like, he's going to crucify him.

01:03:18.000 He starts name-calling and all the jazz that goes along with that, and he says preposterous things about Mexico, about them being a bunch of rapists.

01:03:26.000 And next thing you know, someone's doing the rapists. 0.95

01:03:29.000 He never said that.

01:03:30.000 Never said that.

01:03:31.000 He never said Mexico was a bunch of rapists.

01:03:34.000 Well, he didn't say it that way.

01:03:35.000 No, he said Mexico is not sending his best people and that many of the people who come over are rapists and criminals.

01:03:40.000 That's all true.

01:03:41.000 And what has happened since?

01:03:43.000 Now the conservative press has been more alert and awake to this and been re-emboldened, if you like.

01:03:48.000 Look at it.

01:03:49.000 We're finding these guys that are caught for raping and killing and stealing things, and they've been deported six times.

01:03:54.000 We're finding all this poor girl that got murdered by an immigrant and been deported four times. 1.00

01:03:58.000 He's not wrong. 0.53

01:03:59.000 You might not like the way he says it, but he's not wrong. 0.99

01:04:01.000 The way he says it is definitely problematic.

01:04:03.000 And it really hurts the people who are in the world.

01:04:04.000 People that excise that word from your vocabulary.

01:04:06.000 Problematic?

01:04:07.000 Why?

01:04:07.000 Yes.

01:04:08.000 Because it's, don't you know?

01:04:09.000 It's a progressive word.

01:04:09.000 That's what they say on campuses.

01:04:11.000 Actually, I find what you're saying, Brole, problematic.

01:04:13.000 No, I'm serious.

01:04:15.000 You need to get rid of this.

01:04:15.000 I'm serious.

01:04:16.000 You need to get rid of this.

01:04:17.000 But it is a problem.

01:04:18.000 You could communicate with that.

01:04:19.000 Find a different word because it's callous.

01:04:21.000 That is a social justice dog whistle.

01:04:23.000 When people hear you say problematic, they think campus feminism. 1.00

01:04:27.000 It's more problematic was ever, but language sometimes accelerates past us, you know.

01:04:33.000 It's like retard. 1.00

01:04:34.000 Well, retard used to be fine. 1.00

01:04:36.000 Retard is fine. 1.00

01:04:37.000 Retard is fine, and retarded is fine. 1.00

01:04:39.000 love you.

01:04:40.000 Gay for...

01:04:45.000 Oh, thank you.

01:04:46.000 And you can have a fag pass for gay, queer, and faggot, because they're fine too. 1.00

01:04:49.000 Yeah, but people are not going to accept it.

01:04:51.000 You could use it.

01:04:52.000 I do.

01:04:53.000 Someone told me, I had a discussion because I called my dog a faggot in one of my comedy specials.

01:05:00.000 And it was just, it was a stupid bit.

01:05:03.000 And the guy said, this is where it was really, it was a Comedy Central guy.

01:05:06.000 He goes, only we can use that.

01:05:08.000 And I go, what?

01:05:10.000 And he goes, yes, it's our nigger. 0.96

01:05:12.000 And I said, that's the gayest shit I've ever heard in my life.

01:05:17.000 No, but that's true.

01:05:18.000 That's a real conversation I had with a real person.

01:05:20.000 But no, I don't agree with all of this.

01:05:22.000 I think words should be liberated.

01:05:23.000 And once you liberate them, you rob them of their ability to hurt people.

01:05:26.000 You rob them of their ability to wound.

01:05:28.000 And you stop giving them power.

01:05:29.000 And, more important than that, you don't just rob racist, sexists, and homophobes of a word in their arsenal, but you also rob social justice warriors of the ability to bully and police and publicly shame people for using words that are fine.

01:05:44.000 Well, the problem is when you give words magical powers.

01:05:47.000 And words are about intent.

01:05:49.000 And you know, when, you know, when someone does, like, what was the Louis C.K. joke?

01:05:54.000 He goes, what if someone's just being a faggot? 1.00

01:05:56.000 You know, it doesn't have anything to do with being gay.

01:05:58.000 Like, did you know the people from Phoenix are called Phoenicians?

01:06:01.000 Oh, shut up, faggot. 1.00

01:06:03.000 Yeah.

01:06:04.000 I agree.

01:06:05.000 I recorded an episode of my show yesterday with Anne Corter, and she said, that's gay.

01:06:09.000 And I said, I hope you don't mean homosexual.

01:06:11.000 I hope you mean gay in its prestige meaning, in my view, which is rubbish, lame, crap, Hillary supporting, immigrant-loving. 1.00

01:06:18.000 You know, that's my immigrant-loving, but my family were immigrants.

01:06:21.000 Oh, you know, I mean bad immigrants. 1.00

01:06:22.000 Bad immigrants. 1.00

01:06:23.000 You know what I mean.

01:06:23.000 I don't know.

01:06:24.000 None of my family are bad immigrants.

01:06:26.000 I don't mean handsome, charming, successful, blonde-haired British immigrants. 1.00

01:06:32.000 I mean Donald Trump's rapists.

01:06:34.000 Right, those bad ones.

01:06:35.000 Those bad ones.

01:06:36.000 The brownies. 0.77

01:06:37.000 No, it's got nothing to do with skin colour.

01:06:39.000 It's about culture.

01:06:40.000 It's about culture.

01:06:41.000 And this is what's happening in...

01:06:44.000 Look, of all people, I don't have a problem with brown skin.

01:06:48.000 But as you know, it's about culture.

01:06:51.000 And when you import, as happening in Germany, these barbaric medieval attitudes to women and gays, bad things happen.

01:07:00.000 And actually, that does a disservice to the barbarians. 0.92

01:07:03.000 And that is a real problem, right?

01:07:04.000 And that's a problem that the leftist does not want to face.

01:07:07.000 There are cultures, just like there are some of the, there are terrible people in all cultures, right? 1.00

01:07:13.000 We can all cultures that are not as good as ours. 1.00

01:07:17.000 Our prisons have the choice.

01:07:19.000 We shouldn't import them here. 1.00

01:07:20.000 Our prison system is filled with people that have done terrible things, right?

01:07:24.000 So even in the best country in the world, there are people in this country that have done terrible things.

01:07:28.000 But there's a general attitude about women in the Middle East that has been supported by the people that are in charge of the countries, like Saudi Arabia, where the women could not drive.

01:07:41.000 It's endemic.

01:07:41.000 Well, that one I'm with them on.

01:07:44.000 No, sometimes.

01:07:45.000 No, no, no, no.

01:07:47.000 Sometimes good things can happen for bad reasons.

01:07:50.000 It's good that the chicks don't drive. 1.00

01:07:52.000 They've accidentally stumbled on a good rule.

01:07:54.000 Women should not be behind the wall. 1.00

01:07:56.000 As a heterosexual male, if I want a girl to come over my house and fuck, you should be sending a car for her. 1.00

01:08:02.000 Oh, right.

01:08:03.000 But what if I was younger?

01:08:04.000 Send your chauffeur.

01:08:07.000 Then you should have some sort of disreputable midnight tryst somewhere.

01:08:11.000 Sometimes it's good to be able to outside.

01:08:12.000 It's good old carriage for her.

01:08:15.000 She comes over with her own pillow.

01:08:16.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:08:16.000 With her own pillow.

01:08:17.000 That's a good girl.

01:08:18.000 Do you make people obviously?

01:08:20.000 Some girls like their own pillow. 1.00

01:08:21.000 They have so fucked up.

01:08:23.000 Women are a mess. 1.00

01:08:24.000 Women are a mess. 1.00

01:08:25.000 No guy comes over to a girl's house with her own pillow. 0.98

01:08:28.000 With his own pillow.

01:08:29.000 It's giving me an idea though, because I've got those lovely $250 duck-down pillows.

01:08:34.000 They're lovely.

01:08:35.000 But I live out of hotels.

01:08:36.000 I should start taking my own pillows everywhere.

01:08:38.000 It's not a bad idea.

01:08:39.000 Because I sleep in my own bed about three days every two months.

01:08:41.000 And it's like, honestly, it's such a luxurious experience to be at home.

01:08:45.000 Are you traveling that much?

01:08:47.000 Yeah, I live in hotels.

01:08:49.000 I'm in a hotel in West Hollywood all this month.

01:08:53.000 Yeah, no, I just don't go home anymore.

01:08:55.000 Well, I know you're constantly doing these tours.

01:08:58.000 I saw the one that you did with Stephen Crowder and Christina Hoffsam.

01:09:02.000 Christina Hofsamer.

01:09:03.000 You had her on the show.

01:09:04.000 She was amazing.

01:09:05.000 I loved that show.

01:09:06.000 I love her.

01:09:07.000 Aside from mine, that was my favorite show of yours ever.

01:09:09.000 Yeah, she's fantastic. 0.99

01:09:10.000 She's fantastic.

01:09:11.000 And Crowder gets a lot of shit, but he makes some great points and he's videos of shit.

01:09:17.000 And he does a lot of funny stuff.

01:09:19.000 I think he's funny.

01:09:19.000 Did you see the Brexit thing that he did?

01:09:21.000 No.

01:09:22.000 Oh, no.

01:09:23.000 I catch up on stuff like that.

01:09:23.000 I always tweeted.

01:09:24.000 I tweeted.

01:09:25.000 See if you could find it.

01:09:26.000 When him and his co-host, when what was the guy named?

01:09:30.000 Nigel Farage.

01:09:31.000 Nigel Farage is.

01:09:31.000 Is that his name?

01:09:32.000 The guy who orchestrated the Brexit.

01:09:35.000 There's a video of him addressing, I guess, the Parliament.

01:09:39.000 Is that what he's addressing?

01:09:40.000 Oh, European Parliament.

01:09:42.000 Yes.

01:09:42.000 And he's roasting them, basically.

01:09:44.000 He's roasting them.

01:09:45.000 And then, here, go live with this.

01:09:47.000 Go full screen so we could.

01:09:50.000 Yeah, don't play it.

01:09:51.000 Go all the way back to the beginning.

01:09:53.000 Hold on.

01:09:55.000 This is what happened with Brexit.

01:10:00.000 He's got a hat on.

01:10:01.000 Looks British.

01:10:02.000 Yeah, he looks very British.

01:10:04.000 He's a little bit of weird looking dude.

01:10:05.000 His co-host looks like the queen.

01:10:07.000 Finally, he's got a bolder hat.

01:10:08.000 He's got the referendum after the vote.

01:10:10.000 He started for the European Union.

01:10:10.000 He's silly.

01:10:11.000 He's very funny.

01:10:12.000 And he just has gone viral.

01:10:15.000 He explained in his words as to why the Brexit happened.

01:10:19.000 And he sat down, he educated them, he tried to enlighten them, but he also made it sting just a little bit.

01:10:26.000 So we want to show you some highlights from these clips of Nigel Farage.

01:10:30.000 Let's roll clip one.

01:10:31.000 Isn't it funny?

01:10:32.000 You know, when I came here 17 years ago and I said that I wanted to lead a campaign to get Britain to leave the European Union, you all laughed at me.

01:10:45.000 Well, I have to say, you're not laughing now, are you?

01:10:48.000 Ooh, burn. 0.98

01:10:49.000 Burn.

01:10:49.000 Oh, Nigel!

01:10:53.000 This reminds me of a great...

01:11:02.000 Yes.

01:11:03.000 It reminds me of a great, I think it's a Bob Monkhouse joke.

01:11:05.000 And he says something like, 10 years ago, I told you all I was going to be a comedian.

01:11:12.000 Well, no one's laughing now.

01:11:15.000 It gets crazy.

01:11:16.000 Watch this.

01:11:17.000 They go deeper.

01:11:18.000 Watch this.

01:11:19.000 Oh, boom.

01:11:20.000 Love that.

01:11:21.000 I don't care what you say about him, but that man is a P-I-M-P. 1.00

01:11:26.000 Yes.

01:11:27.000 Nobody's laughing now.

01:11:28.000 Spell that out in my head.

01:11:29.000 If you expect This segment to get better, don't like I said, we're going to have people far more authoritative on the Brexit, just kind of like the UK with the American election.

01:11:41.000 It's entertainment.

01:11:41.000 Sorry, it's been an intense few weeks.

01:11:44.000 This is last week of Cultural Appropriation Month.

01:11:47.000 Brexit, good on you guys.

01:11:48.000 You got some independence.

01:11:50.000 You're going to be entertained this evening.

01:11:52.000 Sons? 0.94

01:11:55.000 We have some other clips, don't we?

01:11:56.000 We have some more clips.

01:11:57.000 We have some more clips where he sat down and he talked to them about...

01:12:01.000 So let's get to some of the substance of his comments.

01:12:04.000 Roll the next clip, Doug.

01:12:06.000 But what I would like to see is a grown-up and sensible attitude to how we negotiate a different relationship.

01:12:16.000 Now, I know.

01:12:18.000 I know that virtually none of you have ever done a proper job in your lives.

01:12:23.000 Oh, God!

01:12:28.000 Okay, I get it.

01:12:30.000 No, I liked him.

01:12:34.000 No, he is.

01:12:34.000 He's right.

01:12:35.000 That is a real issue with politicians.

01:12:37.000 That's a huge issue.

01:12:38.000 And also university teachers.

01:12:42.000 Professors.

01:12:42.000 Well, it's worse than that.

01:12:43.000 It's worse than that.

01:12:44.000 Assistant professors.

01:12:45.000 Universities, it's worse than that.

01:12:47.000 It used to be the case in America that the faculty ruled the roost.

01:12:51.000 And the faculty could pretty much do what they wanted in colleges.

01:12:55.000 But the balance of power has shifted in American universities now toward administrators.

01:12:59.000 Toward basically the people who run the money.

01:13:02.000 Because universities are now giant, partly taxpayer-funded, partly government-owned businesses that need to bring in donations and need to keep admissions numbers up and have these gigantic campuses with luxurious facilities and all the rest of it.

01:13:20.000 Education is taken very much a back seat to the business of providing a home or even, as some people want, a safe space, away from home for four years and charging vast fees to do it.

01:13:30.000 They become sort of holiday camps, very well-appointed holiday camps.

01:13:33.000 The people with the power now in universities are the administrators.

01:13:35.000 And to be a university administrator, you need to know even less than to be a professor.

01:13:40.000 In fact, it's almost compulsory to go through life with a cluster of conspiracy theories, victimhood and grievance politics, and total ignorance of history to run a university in America now because you have to pander to and believe a variety of things that simply aren't true.

01:13:55.000 For example, about campus rape culture.

01:13:57.000 You need to not only enable but fund feminist groups on campus and all sorts of, you know, the diversity office and the women's, you know, and the women's studies department and the blah, blah, blah. 0.97

01:14:08.000 All these things that are happening on campuses, you know, putting other kids' tuition fees, putting the tuition fees of people who are studying engineering and maths and physics into academic departments and student services and all sorts of other things that simply peddle lies to children.

01:14:23.000 They are spreading conspiracy theories based on shoddy advocacy research and balmy social science nonsense from the 1970s and filling vulnerable, impressionable young people's heads with it.

01:14:36.000 And it is obscene.

01:14:38.000 Like what kind of conspiracy theory?

01:14:39.000 Well, like the patriarchy.

01:14:40.000 The patriarch is a conspiracy theory.

01:14:42.000 The patriarchy is an idea dreamt up by feminists, which basically, I mean, what it really boils down to is my life is bad.

01:14:49.000 So this is the thing I don't like about Bernie supporters.

01:14:52.000 They go to the world and they start on this basis.

01:14:55.000 It's my life's bad.

01:14:57.000 Who's to blame for it?

01:14:58.000 Which of you are at fault for my life not being as good as I want it to be?

01:15:02.000 Now, this is the victimhood and grievance sort of politics of the social justice left, particularly the sort of middle and upper middle class social justice left.

01:15:09.000 Now, these women's studies departments tell young girls, if there's anything wrong in your life where you're miserable, you're unhappy, and anything bad ever happens to you, it is the patriarchy.

01:15:17.000 It's this sort of Voldemort-esque conspiracy theory that can explain everything.

01:15:21.000 And of course, as anybody with any sense who actually reads books knows, that any explanation that's a bit too good to be true generally is.

01:15:27.000 And the patriarchy, in fact, does not explain any of the things that are wrong in women's lives. 1.00

01:15:31.000 And if you look at the real data, you discover that if there is a patriarchy, it ain't doing a very good job.

01:15:36.000 You know, of course, you know, 97% of workplace fatalities are male.

01:15:40.000 Men are falling behind in education.

01:15:41.000 There is no wage gap.

01:15:42.000 And in fact, women have a huge competitive advantage going for many jobs. 1.00

01:15:46.000 Blah, blah, blah.

01:15:47.000 Everyone who's listens to us regularly will know all this stuff by heart already.

01:15:50.000 But let's explain the wage gap thing, because it's one of the things that gets trumpeted out.

01:15:54.000 Trumped.

01:15:55.000 Trumpeted out quite a bit.

01:15:56.000 Trumped.

01:15:57.000 Where people don't understand.

01:15:58.000 I get a semi just at the sound of the word now.

01:16:00.000 They don't understand.

01:16:00.000 I told the New York Times I was Trump sexual, and I was trolling them, but they saw that.

01:16:04.000 I was trolling them, but they printed it.

01:16:05.000 Good job.

01:16:07.000 I recognized the troll.

01:16:08.000 And I think they did too, but they're obligated to.

01:16:11.000 Do you presently find Donald Trump sexually attractive?

01:16:13.000 I'm like, yeah, I'm Trump sexual.

01:16:14.000 It's hilarious.

01:16:16.000 Well, they don't.

01:16:17.000 Yeah, I don't think they know what to do with you.

01:16:19.000 But that's beside the point.

01:16:21.000 Let's explain what the issue is with the wage gap.

01:16:24.000 Okay, so there's two ways to do it.

01:16:26.000 One of them involves a little bit of economics, and people at home sometimes are like, oh, I can't deal.

01:16:30.000 Well, it's dirty math is what it is.

01:16:33.000 Oh, and they start talking about it.

01:16:34.000 PBish economics.

01:16:35.000 But listen, if you're at home and you're thinking, I really can't be bothered with this, buck the fuck up.

01:16:39.000 Women make 75 cents to every dollar a month. 1.00

01:16:43.000 Lies, lies.

01:16:44.000 So there are, of course, reasons why men and women may have different roles in society in some of these.

01:16:52.000 Let's pick an example.

01:16:53.000 Men don't bear children. 1.00

01:16:55.000 Now, of course, the left is trying to check.

01:16:56.000 I saw, oh, God, sorry to go off track.

01:16:58.000 This is how my brain works.

01:16:59.000 I'm so scatty.

01:17:00.000 No worries.

01:17:00.000 But The Guardian in June, I saw this other story about this guy who was like, this trans guy trying to breastfeed a kid, and his quote is like, I think that was a joke.

01:17:09.000 No, no, it's not.

01:17:10.000 It's not.

01:17:10.000 Children don't know what gender you are.

01:17:13.000 I thought that was a joke.

01:17:14.000 I thought that was someone like an onion type thing.

01:17:17.000 No, it's not.

01:17:18.000 No, it's just.

01:17:18.000 Come on.

01:17:19.000 This is a guy with glasses that has a baby on his tip.

01:17:21.000 That's not fake.

01:17:22.000 No.

01:17:23.000 No.

01:17:23.000 I started laughing when I saw that.

01:17:25.000 I thought it was like an almost certainly Canadian.

01:17:29.000 Do you know what?

01:17:30.000 I could look it up.

01:17:31.000 I wouldn't put a lot of money on it, but I put a bit.

01:17:33.000 But to unpack it quickly.

01:17:35.000 Oh my God, this is real.

01:17:36.000 I'm a transgender dad in a gay relationship who breastfeeds.

01:17:39.000 Yeah, this is real.

01:17:39.000 What if the Guardian story was?

01:17:41.000 This is real?

01:17:42.000 Yeah, a gay tranny breastfeeding the kid, and he says, kids don't know what gender you are. 1.00

01:17:46.000 This is so.

01:17:47.000 Near the end of my pregnancy.

01:17:48.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

01:17:50.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

01:17:52.000 So he was born a woman then.

01:17:54.000 Then it is a woman. 0.92

01:17:55.000 Who knows?

01:17:55.000 No, it's a woman.

01:17:56.000 Who cares?

01:17:56.000 Transgender man.

01:17:58.000 Because he's got a mustache and a goatee.

01:18:00.000 Which means he was born hormones.

01:18:02.000 And he's now becoming a man.

01:18:04.000 So basically, he's a man breastfeeding a child. 0.74

01:18:06.000 So that kid is going to get like super testosterone.

01:18:09.000 We're told.

01:18:11.000 We're told that we're not allowed to.

01:18:12.000 Born female.

01:18:14.000 He's a man.

01:18:15.000 We have to do this now.

01:18:16.000 He is a man.

01:18:17.000 You can't even refer to him as a former female, whatever.

01:18:19.000 That's transphobic.

01:18:21.000 He's a man, so I was right.

01:18:22.000 I would say transphobic because phobia means fear.

01:18:26.000 Well, irrational fear.

01:18:28.000 And there's nothing irrational about fearing trannies. 1.00

01:18:28.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:18:30.000 They're fucking terrifying.

01:18:33.000 No, I'm serious.

01:18:35.000 They're so scary.

01:18:37.000 I was on a chat show with somebody, right?

01:18:40.000 And she was like this man who's now a woman.

01:18:44.000 And she said, I like how you call him she, though.

01:18:47.000 At least you're doing the proper thing.

01:18:48.000 Damn it.

01:18:49.000 I'm going to get fired.

01:18:50.000 We have a company policy about this.

01:18:52.000 And she said, I've worn the female garb and I've worn the male garb.

01:18:57.000 And men don't know they're born.

01:18:58.000 I get so many, you know, as I walked through life as a man, people treated me, you know, perfectly normally.

01:19:03.000 But now, people look at me very strangely.

01:19:06.000 It took every ounce of my self-control not to say, you're a man in a dress. 1.00

01:19:11.000 Of course they look at you weirdly.

01:19:13.000 You're terrifying.

01:19:14.000 When babies cry at you, they're not crying because they're transphobic.

01:19:18.000 They're crying because you look horrifying.

01:19:20.000 Did you see Caitlin Jenner or Bruce?

01:19:22.000 Oh, can we call Bruce?

01:19:24.000 No, Bruce.

01:19:25.000 Our house style at Bright Barcelona when Ellen was grilling her, him about gay marriage.

01:19:32.000 And she was saying she's a traditionalist.

01:19:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:38.000 Well, basically, I'm a traditional girl.

01:19:40.000 Her fucking rubber face, her face can't move because she shot it up full of Botox. 1.00

01:19:44.000 What the fuck?

01:19:45.000 What the fuck ever happened to loving yourself?

01:19:47.000 That's what confuses the shit out of me.

01:19:49.000 That's why I'm telling you, it's self-harm extended out into the rest of your life because you didn't pick up a razor blade when you were 15.

01:19:54.000 Honestly, kids, cut yourself.

01:19:56.000 No, I'm kidding.

01:19:56.000 I don't know if that's what it is, but there's something very bizarre about encouraging people to shoot exogenous hormones into their body and get their chin slashed off so that they look more like a man or woman.

01:20:08.000 I very firmly believe, I very firmly believe, that we will look back on this period in time like we do now on Victorian electroshock therapy and wonder how we could ever have been so monstrously callous as to allow these people who have mental illnesses to mutilate their bodies. 0.73

01:20:25.000 And of course how idiotic and authoritarian it was of us to expect the taxpayers to pick up the bill.

01:20:33.000 That gets really weird for sure.

01:20:35.000 But I mean I feel like if somebody wants to do it and it's their body, I have no right whatsoever to tell them they can't do it.

01:20:41.000 Oh you do.

01:20:41.000 But it is very interesting.

01:20:43.000 And you should.

01:20:44.000 Why should I be allowed to do that?

01:20:46.000 You're not idiots.

01:20:47.000 Oh, that's so stupid, Mike.

01:20:50.000 Why should anybody just let it do it?

01:20:52.000 I mean, who cares, right?

01:20:54.000 Yeah.

01:20:54.000 But why not?

01:20:56.000 We don't allow people with mental illnesses on the whole to live out their delusions, except when it is in their medical interest.

01:21:05.000 What is mental illness?

01:21:06.000 Okay, let me ask you this.

01:21:07.000 If a person pays their bills, they're nice to people, they function normally, they pay their taxes, they show up for work hard time.

01:21:12.000 They're not a man.

01:21:13.000 They want to be a man. 0.99

01:21:14.000 They're not a man.

01:21:15.000 But they want to be one.

01:21:16.000 Tough.

01:21:17.000 But you're not a man.

01:21:17.000 Why shouldn't they?

01:21:19.000 You know what?

01:21:20.000 There's a serious answer to this, which is that it is by no means clear, and you wouldn't know this just by reading the media, but it is by no means clear that that is the most effective and humane treatment pathway for people with this particular agreed.

01:21:32.000 It is not clear at all.

01:21:34.000 Now, what we should be doing, unless you just want some sort of chaotic free fraud.

01:21:39.000 Look, I know the easy argument, the easy libertarian argument is let people do what they want themselves.

01:21:43.000 They're not hurting anybody else.

01:21:44.000 Just don't let the taxpayer pay for it, right?

01:21:45.000 Well, yeah, fine.

01:21:46.000 But my natural, I mean, I think my compassion kicks in at that point and says to me, do we want to allow people who are mentally ill to mutilate themselves?

01:21:57.000 If somebody was a schizophrenic, would we give them the razor blade they're asking for? 1.00

01:22:02.000 Because they want to hack off their own arm.

01:22:03.000 Okay, but what if a girl wants size double E tits? 1.00

01:22:07.000 Don't she's just got, well, just got good sense. 0.90

01:22:12.000 Plastic surgery is just preposterous tits.

01:22:12.000 But what if a girl gets good?

01:22:15.000 Plastic surgery is just plastic.

01:22:17.000 Well, that's tending into the same kind of disorder, and we shouldn't let them do that either.

01:22:21.000 Maybe there should be rules about how big you can go.

01:22:23.000 A little plastic groom.

01:22:24.000 Should there be tit rules in this country?

01:22:26.000 A little plastic surgery is just good grooming.

01:22:28.000 But I think...

01:22:33.000 Oh, sure.

01:22:33.000 Will we have tit rules?

01:22:35.000 Well, no, it's not about the size.

01:22:35.000 Imagine a day?

01:22:37.000 Okay, it's not about the size of the breast.

01:22:38.000 It's about the mental state of the person who wants to change their body.

01:22:41.000 And that's what we're going to do.

01:22:42.000 But what if someone loves preposterous Jessica rabbit tits? 1.00

01:22:46.000 What if they want to pay for themselves?

01:22:49.000 I don't know.

01:22:50.000 I mean, if they want pendulous breasts the size of watermelons. 1.00

01:22:55.000 Freak shows.

01:22:56.000 Sideshow.

01:22:57.000 No, I don't think you should be able to do that.

01:22:57.000 Freak shows.

01:22:58.000 Why not?

01:22:59.000 Because it's awful.

01:23:01.000 Should you be able to tattoo your whole body?

01:23:01.000 Okay.

01:23:05.000 Well, it depends.

01:23:06.000 Okay, my arms.

01:23:07.000 If you're totally tattooed.

01:23:08.000 Yeah, it's pretty hot.

01:23:09.000 Is that what you're doing?

01:23:11.000 You should be allowed because it's hot.

01:23:12.000 Oh.

01:23:13.000 Yeah.

01:23:13.000 To you.

01:23:14.000 But some people don't like it.

01:23:15.000 Well, they're wrong.

01:23:16.000 Well, isn't that subjective?

01:23:18.000 Yeah.

01:23:19.000 I mean, shouldn't those giant boulder tits be subjective as well? 1.00

01:23:23.000 When the girls get those big, thick, blue veins. 1.00

01:23:25.000 Those are bizarre.

01:23:26.000 Those neck veins.

01:23:27.000 How big do you like your tits? 1.00

01:23:28.000 I like normal ones.

01:23:30.000 Like C-cups, fine.

01:23:32.000 Show me something that's crazy.

01:23:33.000 Like C-cups.

01:23:36.000 D's a little bit more.

01:23:37.000 I'm not a connoisseur.

01:23:39.000 So I don't know what cups me.

01:23:41.000 That's like a C-cup.

01:23:42.000 Yeah.

01:23:43.000 Yeah, that's a nice size breasts. 1.00

01:23:44.000 Nice.

01:23:45.000 Look good.

01:23:45.000 Yeah.

01:23:46.000 Huh.

01:23:47.000 But you shouldn't get them if you're a man.

01:23:48.000 Yeah.

01:23:49.000 Well, yeah, well, Bruce has them, right?

01:23:51.000 He has them now.

01:23:52.000 Yeah.

01:23:52.000 Yeah, that was one of the weird things about him is he went on the Diane Sawyer thing and said he still wants to be Bruce, still wants to be a him, still wants to be called a him.

01:24:01.000 And then immediately after, because of all the attention, gets his jaw shaved down, has massive facial reconstruction surgery.

01:24:09.000 I mean, it was like, it was instantaneously and changed his name to Caitlin.

01:24:14.000 And it was also right after the Diane Sawyer interview that he plowed into that lady and sent her into oncoming traffic and killed her.

01:24:24.000 And it was, it is so bizarre that that stuff can get discussed.

01:24:29.000 I think he was declared innocent of that.

01:24:32.000 What do you mean, declared innocent?

01:24:33.000 Wasn't he?

01:24:34.000 He was hit the car?

01:24:35.000 Wasn't he acquitted of manslaughter?

01:24:37.000 Yes.

01:24:38.000 But I mean, he definitely was being careless, definitely hit that car.

01:24:42.000 Well, of course he was.

01:24:43.000 Because he's insane.

01:24:44.000 He shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel.

01:24:44.000 He's insane.

01:24:46.000 He shouldn't be given guns.

01:24:47.000 He should not be given access to surgeons.

01:24:52.000 He's like struggling with that face to try to make sounds with his mouth or her mouth or whatever.

01:24:57.000 Have you...

01:24:57.000 Look at this.

01:25:04.000 What is that?

01:25:07.000 This is an insane person.

01:25:09.000 This is a person whose mind needs therapy and drug.

01:25:12.000 Well, it's a person who grew up with, well, existed with a bunch of incredibly famous, very powerful women and probably secretly wanted to be like.

01:25:21.000 He's going to be one of them, of course.

01:25:23.000 Look, all I'm saying for sure, outside of our, you know, joking around, is that it is by no means clear that transition surgery is the best route for these people.

01:25:32.000 It does not, according to all of the data we have, all of the studies that does not significantly or at all really affect suicide rates or depression.

01:25:40.000 People who've had this surgery do not get better.

01:25:43.000 It is past.

01:25:44.000 A few of them.

01:25:45.000 A few of them do.

01:25:46.000 But not many.

01:25:47.000 And 40% of them who have it want it reversed.

01:25:51.000 My suggestion is, shouldn't we just be a bit more cautious about it?

01:25:54.000 Well, you are certainly saying some very conservative things about that in terms of how you should approach your own body and your life.

01:26:04.000 Like getting sexual reassignment.

01:26:06.000 No, but I don't mean conservative like right-wing.

01:26:08.000 I mean like cautious.

01:26:09.000 Yeah, cautious.

01:26:10.000 And I think we should be cautious before we mutilate our bodies because there's no coming back from it.

01:26:14.000 There's no comfort.

01:26:14.000 Once you've cut off.

01:26:15.000 And there's a lot of regret.

01:26:16.000 Once you've cut your cock off, that's it. 0.95

01:26:18.000 That's it.

01:26:19.000 Everything else in life you can reverse.

01:26:20.000 Your reputation, you can restore with hard work and a commitment to redressing whatever wrongs you did to people.

01:26:29.000 Your career, you can make it better.

01:26:30.000 You can fix almost anything in life, but you cut your genitals off. 1.00

01:26:34.000 Biological reality is biological reality, right?

01:26:37.000 And you can fix almost anything else about yourself, almost anything else about your life.

01:26:40.000 But there are certain facts, certain anatomical facts about men and women.

01:26:45.000 And once you cut that thing off, that's it.

01:26:48.000 It's done.

01:26:49.000 And I'm just suggesting that maybe we shouldn't do it, for instance, to children for a start, giving them hormone therapy.

01:26:55.000 We shouldn't allow people... 1.00

01:26:59.000 Right, but no.

01:27:00.000 But I'm saying to you, what if somebody was 18, 19, you know?

01:27:03.000 18, 19 years old and says, I know and have known for 10 years that I'm a woman.

01:27:07.000 Would you let them change themselves?

01:27:09.000 I thought I wanted to be married.

01:27:11.000 Your frontal lobe isn't even fully formed at that age.

01:27:14.000 You're not even really a person yet.

01:27:17.000 You are a burgeoning person, right?

01:27:21.000 You are growing into the person you will be.

01:27:24.000 And that's why you can abort them.

01:27:28.000 Stop it.

01:27:29.000 They're not really people yet.

01:27:31.000 Stop it.

01:27:33.000 Stop it.

01:27:35.000 This level of sophistry is beneath you.

01:27:39.000 You might be 800-plus podcasts.

01:27:41.000 The first time someone said sophistry.

01:27:43.000 This is.

01:27:43.000 Unless you said it during the last episode.

01:27:45.000 Sophistry.

01:27:49.000 This is the headline on Bright Bot Tomorrow.

01:27:51.000 Joe Rogan in favor of 18-year-old abortions.

01:27:54.000 How many weeks is that?

01:27:56.000 How many weeks is 18 years?

01:27:57.000 That's a lot.

01:27:58.000 I'm bad at math.

01:27:59.000 My issue is, wasn't there a time where we said you should just love who you are?

01:28:06.000 Like, love who you are.

01:28:08.000 And if you can tell me, but there's the big difference between sort of accepting who you are, and there's some people that just have unfortunate genetics, right?

01:28:17.000 And there's some people that maybe wish that they're a woman or maybe wish there were something else. 1.00

01:28:21.000 And there's one thing between, there's a difference between dressing up or pretending, but once you start getting into full-on injecting female hormones into a male's body and changing things and then physical surgery, I am not against it. 0.68

01:28:38.000 I think I am, like you said, I'm a silly libertarian.

01:28:41.000 I feel like you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do with your body.

01:28:44.000 But it is a very dangerous road, and there's a host of different people out there that will tell you that they've done it and it was a huge mistake.

01:28:55.000 Yes, there are.

01:28:56.000 40% of them.

01:28:57.000 But no one wants to address that.

01:28:58.000 That is something that the left never wants to address in their embracing of the transgender culture.

01:29:05.000 Do whatever the fuck you want to do.

01:29:06.000 Say it again.

01:29:06.000 Yeah, no, I just can't get behind it because I see how...

01:29:13.000 Yes, it is.

01:29:14.000 But for them, look, they've forced us to take a moral position on a medical issue, right?

01:29:18.000 This is not a moral issue.

01:29:19.000 This is a medical issue.

01:29:21.000 If it is the case that people have a disorder or a condition, if they have dysphoria, whatever word they want to come up with for it, that means that they were born with the wrong brain in the wrong body.

01:29:32.000 Never mind the fact that we're always told that gender is socialized.

01:29:34.000 Apparently, suddenly, abruptly, now you can have a male brain, such a thing as a male brain.

01:29:39.000 The leftists.

01:29:40.000 Gender is a social construct.

01:29:41.000 Unless you're trans. 0.99

01:29:42.000 In which case, you've got a male brain, a female body. 1.00

01:29:45.000 What a load of crap.

01:29:46.000 Do these people really expect us to believe this shit?

01:29:48.000 They think that we have the same level of cognitive dissonance that they have.

01:29:51.000 They think that we are as dumb as they are.

01:29:53.000 They think that we don't think things through like they don't think things through.

01:29:57.000 Well, we do.

01:29:58.000 We do think these things through.

01:29:59.000 And so do most people at home.

01:30:00.000 And they are told on the one hand, if they even bother to get this far into a Guardian editorial, that gender is a social construct and all of this kind of stuff.

01:30:09.000 And yet at the same time, that masculinity is toxic.

01:30:11.000 And at the same time, you can have a men.

01:30:15.000 And the only time you're allowed to embrace feminine virtue, like really sexy clothes, short skirts. 0.98

01:30:22.000 Is if you're a tranny. 0.97

01:30:24.000 If you're a tranny. 1.00

01:30:25.000 If you're a tranny. 1.00

01:30:29.000 Yeah, it's like, oh, you're so empowered.

01:30:30.000 You're brave and fabulous.

01:30:32.000 You're stunning and brave is the phrase.

01:30:34.000 Yes.

01:30:34.000 Stunning and brave.

01:30:35.000 Stunning and brave.

01:30:37.000 A hero.

01:30:38.000 There's nothing heroic about cutting off.

01:30:39.000 You're a firefighter.

01:30:42.000 They should get the purple heart for cutting their cocks off, you know. 1.00

01:30:46.000 But it's just strange that a woman who wears short skirts and high heels and a lot of makeup, that is a poor thing. 1.00

01:30:52.000 It's fine as long as you're a man.

01:30:54.000 Right.

01:30:54.000 As long as you're a man.

01:30:55.000 You see, we're even better at being women than women are. 0.99

01:30:58.000 Oh, well, woman of the year.

01:31:00.000 Yeah, with Glamour magazine, Woman of the Year.

01:31:02.000 Woman of the Year.

01:31:03.000 Six months after being a woman, he won Woman of the Year.

01:31:05.000 This bitch has been trying to win that fucking award for 30, 40 years. 1.00

01:31:09.000 There's some good ladies out there. 1.00

01:31:10.000 There are some good girls who missed out on that.

01:31:13.000 Is there anything men can't do?

01:31:14.000 We're better at everything.

01:31:15.000 You know, I've had male cleaners and female cleaners. 1.00

01:31:18.000 Men, always better. 0.99

01:31:18.000 I've had male cooks and female cooks. 0.99

01:31:20.000 Male cooks, always better. 1.00

01:31:22.000 I'm just saying, I mean, this is the problem with the trans project. 1.00

01:31:25.000 It's profoundly sexist because, you know, the trans and homophobic, by the way, because I'm convinced of this.

01:31:30.000 The trans project is profoundly homophobic because what it's telling parents right now, and this is the 40% that want it reversed, and probably then some.

01:31:37.000 They're telling, if you're a young boy and you're feminine and you like playing with Barbies and you're attracted to other boys and you, and in your confused child mind, and your parents' dumb, liberal, infested, infected, intoxicated mind, somehow this becomes, oh, you must have really supposed to have been a girl.

01:31:58.000 No, they're just gay. 0.99

01:32:00.000 And if you leave these kids alone, all the evidence suggests that they grow up into perfectly well-adjusted young gay men.

01:32:05.000 But instead, we're telling them, and this also provides an escape hatch for parents who can't cope with the fact that their kids are gay.

01:32:11.000 Because what it says to them is, oh, it's okay.

01:32:14.000 You haven't given birth to a queer. 1.00

01:32:16.000 You've just, there's nothing wrong with you.

01:32:18.000 This kid's got a disorder.

01:32:19.000 You should have had a daughter. 0.76

01:32:20.000 So this gets parents out of having to go through all of the difficult Erigmarole in their heads.

01:32:25.000 Like, what did I do to turn my son gay?

01:32:27.000 Well, now you don't have to, because now they have a disorder, and now they're supposed to be girls, right? 1.00

01:32:31.000 That's so homophobic.

01:32:33.000 So homophobic.

01:32:33.000 Right.

01:32:34.000 And the trans thing is profoundly anti-women because all it seems to be demonstrating, I mean the effect of it, at least, all it seems to be demonstrating is that men are better at being women than women are.

01:32:45.000 No, I mean, look at, look, Caitlin Jenner, Woman of the Year.

01:32:48.000 We didn't do it.

01:32:49.000 It's a bullshit award.

01:32:50.000 And look at, no, look at that.

01:32:51.000 Isn't that that bullshit award just because there's so much attention being put on her? 1.00

01:32:55.000 No one really thinks she did anything fabulous.

01:32:57.000 Well, no, this is.

01:32:57.000 You think about all the women that have done amazing things for women.

01:33:00.000 This is what the left does.

01:33:01.000 It forces you to take.

01:33:03.000 It forces you to take moral positions on medical issues in this case, right?

01:33:03.000 Yes, it is.

01:33:09.000 But it also makes you lie.

01:33:10.000 This is how you know the left thinks it's one and how it's getting overconfident, which is why I'm winning on college campuses because they've forgotten how to argue.

01:33:15.000 But the left is getting overconfident and it's enforcing this stuff on people.

01:33:21.000 Now, if you don't want to be a bigot and lose your job and lose your newspaper column and not appear on TV anymore and become persona non grata, you have to tell lies that you know aren't true, that everybody knows aren't true.

01:33:30.000 For instance, that Caitlin Jenner is a woman.

01:33:32.000 Nobody believes that.

01:33:33.000 No one.

01:33:34.000 Well, she still has a penis. 1.00

01:33:34.000 Not the journalist or whatever. 1.00

01:33:36.000 Well, okay, fine, but let's say that's a good idea.

01:33:37.000 That's even more problematic.

01:33:39.000 Like, she's offensive. 0.74

01:33:40.000 I'll give you that problematic.

01:33:42.000 But let's take another trans person, right? 1.00

01:33:44.000 Somebody who's had everything.

01:33:45.000 Somebody who now has one of those hideous, oozing, inverted vaginas. 1.00

01:33:50.000 You know, the surgery is horrific, by the way.

01:33:52.000 Describe it in detail to anybody thinking of having this done to them.

01:33:55.000 On YouTube.

01:33:56.000 Oh, God, really?

01:33:56.000 Yeah.

01:33:57.000 No, even I haven't done that.

01:33:58.000 You can watch it.

01:33:58.000 No, thanks.

01:34:01.000 You know, take a woman who has had all of this. 1.00

01:34:04.000 She's had all the surgery, all the hormones, living as a woman, can almost pass. 1.00

01:34:08.000 Nobody believes it's a woman.

01:34:10.000 Not the journalists writing the stories.

01:34:12.000 Trumps are fucking believing it.

01:34:13.000 Not the doctor.

01:34:16.000 Stop it.

01:34:17.000 Oh, do you know, interesting little tidbit?

01:34:18.000 I think I might even have said this on the last show, but it was a long time ago, and I'm sure different people are listening.

01:34:23.000 Do you know why so many trannies get beaten up? 1.00

01:34:25.000 Because the left is always saying, oh, we've got to protect the trans community because there's disproportionately victims of violence.

01:34:29.000 Do you know what happens?

01:34:32.000 No.

01:34:32.000 Why tranny prostitutes get beaten up so much?

01:34:35.000 Why?

01:34:35.000 Guess.

01:34:36.000 Because they lie and say that they are a woman and the guy finds a penis and then they beat him up? 0.99

01:34:41.000 They steal money?

01:34:41.000 No.

01:34:43.000 No.

01:34:46.000 The first one you gave is the most obvious explanation, but it isn't the reason.

01:34:49.000 What happens is that, When they see a tranny, they know it's a tranny, right? 1.00

01:34:55.000 You don't know who these guys are, like in your imagination, who you think don't know a man when they see one, but most people know a man when they see one, even if it's had hormones and it's got like, I've seen some ones.

01:35:07.000 I've seen some ones.

01:35:08.000 You ever seen Bailey J?

01:35:10.000 No.

01:35:10.000 Bailey J, transgender woman.

01:35:12.000 She is the most compelling argument for someone who was born the wrong sex. 1.00

01:35:16.000 Well, I don't think hotness is a compelling argument for medical artists.

01:35:20.000 Like 100% woman. 0.97

01:35:21.000 100%.

01:35:22.000 Well, lots of men are pretty much awesome.

01:35:23.000 But she's got a big dick. 1.00

01:35:25.000 There's better pictures of her.

01:35:27.000 No.

01:35:28.000 Look at that right there.

01:35:28.000 Not into it.

01:35:29.000 Kapow.

01:35:30.000 Come on, son.

01:35:31.000 Not into it.

01:35:31.000 Big fat dick, too.

01:35:33.000 Puts it on Twitter.

01:35:34.000 That's one of the weird things about Twitter.

01:35:35.000 Like, you could be flipping through Twitter and all of a sudden you just see a giant dick.

01:35:38.000 You're like, oh, all right.

01:35:39.000 Well, I follow a couple of porn stars because I'm friends with them.

01:35:42.000 But of course, they use their Twitter accounts just to promote their work.

01:35:42.000 But of course.

01:35:46.000 So I'm sort of like, I've got like, well, no, I've got like Felix Salmon from Fusion, somebody from The Wall Street Journal, a colleague tweeting about Elon Musk.

01:35:53.000 Yeah, Elon Musk, tranny porn. 0.73

01:35:56.000 It happens all the time.

01:35:57.000 Happens all the time.

01:35:58.000 What was I saying?

01:35:59.000 Yes.

01:36:00.000 Nobody believes.

01:36:01.000 No one.

01:36:02.000 Nobody.

01:36:03.000 Not a single soul believes that this person is a woman, right?

01:36:07.000 Might look like a woman, might be hot, might, you know, all the rest of it, but nobody believes it is a woman.

01:36:12.000 We have to say that.

01:36:13.000 We have to use pronouns that suggest it.

01:36:15.000 We have to warp reality, language, and, you know, and passports. 0.97

01:36:19.000 The infrastructure of the country has to be remodeled around people with mental disorders. 1.00

01:36:25.000 Imagine if we did this for any other kind of mental disorder.

01:36:27.000 Why?

01:36:28.000 Because the left has made this, as they put on the front cover of Time Magazine with Laverne Cox, the new civil rights frontier.

01:36:34.000 Well, I'm sorry.

01:36:34.000 Wait a minute.

01:36:35.000 That was the cover.

01:36:36.000 The new civil rights frontier was the cover of Time Magazine with Laverne Cox, the hot black one. 0.98

01:36:40.000 The new civil rights.

01:36:42.000 Laverne Cox is the one in orange is the new black, black tranny. 1.00

01:36:44.000 Oh.

01:36:45.000 Front cover of Time Magazine, the new civil rights.

01:36:47.000 Well, I'm sorry.

01:36:48.000 No, fuck you.

01:36:48.000 Civil rights is about black people.

01:36:50.000 Stop trying to take it.

01:36:51.000 It's not about gays, and it's not about fucking trannies. 1.00

01:36:51.000 It's not about women. 1.00

01:36:54.000 Civil rights is about black people.

01:36:55.000 Stop doing this.

01:36:56.000 What the left does is it tries to present these issues totally unrelated.

01:37:00.000 It's little pet projects.

01:37:01.000 It's little flexing of muscle.

01:37:03.000 It's like the left is at home being like, let's see what crazy thing we can make people say they believe in today just because we can.

01:37:11.000 And this is, I'm convinced, they all get together.

01:37:14.000 There must be some kind of like left-wing Bilderberg.

01:37:15.000 It happens like in Toronto.

01:37:16.000 No, it happens like in Toronto or something.

01:37:19.000 And they're all together and they're all like, what is the craziest, most insane, most counterintuitive, most like medically impossible, most ridiculous thing we can come up with and make everyone believe it and say they believe it because if they don't, they'll lose their jobs.

01:37:31.000 I know.

01:37:31.000 Tranny's perfect.

01:37:33.000 And then of course you've got the, you know, anyway, whatever.

01:37:36.000 This is what they've done.

01:37:37.000 Nobody believes this, but you have to say it.

01:37:39.000 It's so wrong.

01:37:41.000 It's so wrong.

01:37:41.000 And when you realize what their real motivations are, you understand why they don't care about the science and why they're not interested in exploring what we were talking about, the different treatment pathways.

01:37:49.000 They don't care about the science.

01:37:50.000 And what are their motivations?

01:37:52.000 Well, it's political.

01:37:53.000 It's entirely political.

01:37:54.000 You know, the left wants to tear down everything.

01:37:56.000 They want to deconstruct the difference between men and women because they cannot cope with the fact that women aren't as good at some things as men.

01:38:02.000 Well, by the way, men aren't as good at some things as women, but you don't talk about that because that doesn't suit your narrative because you want to paint women as victims all the time.

01:38:09.000 You know, you want to pull apart the, you know, they want to pull apart and destroy everything.

01:38:14.000 Well, isn't it bizarre, too, that in this time and age of gender-neutral pronouns and these strange new pronouns that they want to stick to the traditional male-female pronouns when it comes to transgender people?

01:38:24.000 Of course they do.

01:38:25.000 Without any variation.

01:38:27.000 Like, it's a she. 1.00

01:38:28.000 Of course.

01:38:29.000 But this gives you an insight into what's really happening.

01:38:32.000 I mean, I think it tells its own story, right?

01:38:33.000 They don't really believe it.

01:38:36.000 Well, that is one of the best examples of it.

01:38:39.000 They don't really buy it.

01:38:40.000 I mean, this is like this Justin Trudeau situation where they're trying to have gender-neutral options and your identification and the thing in New York that's going on where shopkeepers and employers can be sued for up to a quarter million dollars for not letting you use the right bathroom or use the wrong pronouns.

01:38:59.000 Just pronouns.

01:39:00.000 Including artificial, invented pronouns like Z. Yeah, yeah, a quarter of a million dollars.

01:39:00.000 Yes.

01:39:07.000 Here, here, H-I-R. 1.00

01:39:08.000 Yeah, here, Zeer, Z, Zeer, Zer.

01:39:12.000 I'm good at grammar.

01:39:13.000 Like, you know, my mother's German, and so I'm good with all the different dative, genitive, blah, blah, blah.

01:39:18.000 There are 18 new gender pronouns.

01:39:21.000 I can't keep track.

01:39:22.000 No one can.

01:39:24.000 I'm a total language nerd, you know?

01:39:26.000 Like, I did linguistics.

01:39:28.000 What's the etymology of these?

01:39:29.000 Like, where are they coming from?

01:39:32.000 I'm trying to remember.

01:39:33.000 I used to know.

01:39:34.000 Look at this.

01:39:35.000 X himself.

01:39:36.000 Look at this one.

01:39:36.000 Zim C M I think it's E L. Zimbabwe.

01:39:40.000 X himself is.

01:39:42.000 That's Zimself. 1.00

01:39:43.000 I'm trying to write that down.

01:39:44.000 I can't.

01:39:45.000 X Y R S? 1.00

01:39:46.000 Zers? 1.00

01:39:47.000 Xurs? 0.95

01:39:48.000 This is just...

01:39:52.000 They want everyone else to be as ugly as they are.

01:39:54.000 These pronouns are the ugliest words I've ever seen, right?

01:39:58.000 They're beautiful words.

01:39:59.000 And there are ugly words.

01:40:00.000 And these are ugly words.

01:40:01.000 Just look at what feminists are doing. 1.00

01:40:03.000 I had a podcast about this with a great guy, Alex Kazemi, and he is really, really clever, brilliant writer from Canada.

01:40:10.000 He's friends with a lot of people in Hollywood that you would know and like.

01:40:10.000 I love this guy.

01:40:14.000 Very, very smart, interesting.

01:40:16.000 And he was talking on my show two weeks ago.

01:40:18.000 Last week?

01:40:19.000 I don't remember.

01:40:19.000 Two weeks ago?

01:40:20.000 Recently, and it's good.

01:40:21.000 Episode 14, I think.

01:40:23.000 About how beauty has become marginalized in mainstream culture.

01:40:27.000 Because feminism has told the body positivity stuff, encouraging women to get fat and get ill and die, which is just the worst kind of sociopathy and selfishness and just outright lies that we tell each other. 1.00

01:40:37.000 I'm convinced the left, because it's populated, and all the studies say this, by disproportionately ugly people.

01:40:43.000 Because if you do the politicians thing where you take out Democrat and Republican politicians and you ask people to rank them in hotness, it's almost exactly 50-50.

01:40:54.000 And there are studies on this.

01:40:55.000 The left doesn't even disagree.

01:40:56.000 Doesn't even bother denying this anymore.

01:40:58.000 Republicans are just way hotter.

01:40:59.000 Republicans are hotter than Democrats?

01:41:01.000 Every study.

01:41:02.000 Every service.

01:41:03.000 Republicans?

01:41:03.000 Girls?

01:41:04.000 Absolutely.

01:41:05.000 All those lovely, skinny blonde bitches. 1.00

01:41:07.000 The Fox News ones, for sure.

01:41:10.000 There's got to be a lot of hot.

01:41:11.000 They're so hot.

01:41:12.000 Really, like, aerobic-y yoga teachers.

01:41:16.000 No, no, no.

01:41:16.000 The new left, the new social justice left, the fat, ugly, quivering, Lena Dunham left, the nose-piercing blue-hair stuff.

01:41:25.000 Well, these are the people running culture now.

01:41:26.000 It's not a new thing.

01:41:27.000 It's here.

01:41:28.000 And they are trying to make everybody else as ugly as they are.

01:41:31.000 But there's a bizarre trend, too, to embrace having an obese body.

01:41:36.000 It's disgusting.

01:41:37.000 But why is that?

01:41:39.000 Where is that empowering?

01:41:40.000 Why is it empowering to be unhealthy, listless, out of energy?

01:41:44.000 It isn't, but what they're trying to tell...

01:41:48.000 It's not.

01:41:49.000 And what's, you know, JCPenney, the retailer, did this video recently with a load of ham beasts who were all saying, you know, what? 0.81

01:41:57.000 Ham beasts. 0.97

01:41:58.000 Do you like that?

01:41:59.000 I like that.

01:42:00.000 I like, actually, ham planets.

01:42:01.000 It sounds so much better coming out of your mouth.

01:42:03.000 If I call them ham beasts, it sounds mean.

01:42:06.000 But you.

01:42:06.000 Ham beast.

01:42:06.000 It's like ham beasts.

01:42:08.000 Ham beasts. 0.97

01:42:08.000 Or ham planets. 0.97

01:42:09.000 Do you like ham planets?

01:42:10.000 That's another one of my favorites.

01:42:12.000 Well, I guess planets, they have their own gravity.

01:42:14.000 They have a lot of mass.

01:42:15.000 Yeah, ham beast is nastier.

01:42:18.000 Ham planets is sort of.

01:42:19.000 Ham planets is a bit lighter touch, isn't it?

01:42:19.000 Ham beast.

01:42:21.000 No, these people are fat, miserable, and unhappy with their own lives, trying to persuade the rest of us that it is not just neutral, but a positive and happy and joyous thing, almost something to be admired and almost something to be imitated, being so unhealthy that your chances of diabetes go up, all the rest of it, your chances of being disgusting go up 4,000%.

01:42:45.000 It's very, very strange to me.

01:42:47.000 very weird and it's part of this it's part of the left's campaign to make ugly you know like there was It's a way for ugly women to get purchase in the public sphere, right? 1.00

01:43:05.000 This is how ugly women get positions. 1.00

01:43:09.000 And he's right about that.

01:43:11.000 And this sort of social justice left, you know, the gender queer, fat, blue-haired, facial-piercing thing is so horrifying. 1.00

01:43:18.000 And this is a way for ugly, marginalized outcasts to make themselves feel like they're hot people.

01:43:23.000 And they want to drag everyone else down to them because, why?

01:43:25.000 It's a form of self-harm.

01:43:27.000 It is extended adolescence, writ large.

01:43:30.000 And what my guest said, Alex Kazemi, who's very smart and insightful, said, you know, this is...

01:43:35.000 How...

01:43:40.000 How did, you know, we lose fantasy and aspiration in culture?

01:43:44.000 We need those things.

01:43:45.000 We need people to look up to and to aspire to and to admire.

01:43:48.000 And it's so horrifying that now the hot people feel marginalized.

01:43:52.000 Look at the cover of men's health and how much uglier the men on the covers of men's health are getting, right? 0.62

01:43:57.000 Because they want really relatable models.

01:43:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:43:59.000 The bodies are About the same, but look at the faces.

01:44:01.000 Look at how they're shot.

01:44:02.000 Now they're all like friendly and approachable and not too hot.

01:44:05.000 You know, it used to be fucking stunning people on the cover of men's health, like five years ago.

01:44:09.000 They're getting uglier.

01:44:10.000 And you can see it even in magazines.

01:44:12.000 Even in men's magazines, that's a trend.

01:44:15.000 Yep.

01:44:15.000 Well, look at the Axe commercial.

01:44:16.000 The Axe commercial is this cheap deodorant, right?

01:44:20.000 And they've got a new ad out you can find on YouTube, which is about, you know, never mind the six-pack, you know, you've got the nose or whatever, and it's this ugly guy with a huge nose.

01:44:28.000 Never mind, you know, the biceps, you've got your bike or some shit like that.

01:44:31.000 Encouraging men too to be ugly and dorky and unattractive and nerdy and horrific, just in the same way that feminists have been doing this to women for decades already. 1.00

01:44:39.000 Isn't that just a manipulative ad campaign to try to find marginalized people and capitalize on dragging them into your group and selling them some shitty fucking deodorant?

01:44:48.000 No, it's trying to legitimize and then ultimately to celebrate irresponsible lifestyle choices.

01:44:55.000 Yeah, but you're talking about this as if some grand conspiracy.

01:44:58.000 Like there's a cabal of fucking lefties out there with an evil plan.

01:45:01.000 Lefty Bilderberg in Toronto.

01:45:03.000 No, I believe it's it happens.

01:45:05.000 How else can we explain this?

01:45:07.000 It definitely happens.

01:45:08.000 Well, there's a lot of marginalized people out there and they find comfort in groups.

01:45:12.000 People always find comfort in numbers.

01:45:14.000 And when they find someone that they think is beautiful and privileged, they try to lash out at them because they've been jealous of that person for a long time.

01:45:22.000 I just think as a hot person, I'm feeling very personally victimized by the messages that society is sending me right now, and I think I might go home and cut myself.

01:45:30.000 Yeah, well, don't do that.

01:45:31.000 No, I won't do that.

01:45:32.000 Just think about it.

01:45:34.000 I see what you're saying, and I see these trends, but I think that you're dealing with incredibly small numbers of people that are very vocal.

01:45:41.000 But they wield disproportionate influence.

01:45:44.000 They have power.

01:45:45.000 They can't possibly do it.

01:45:46.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:45:47.000 Everybody I talk to is so dumb about this.

01:45:47.000 No.

01:45:51.000 They get things done.

01:45:52.000 They make companies apologize for things.

01:45:54.000 They change policy.

01:45:56.000 You know, the feminists about video games will say, oh, we don't want to take your video games away. 1.00

01:45:59.000 And then suddenly Grand Theft Auto disappears off the shelves of Target in Australia.

01:46:02.000 They get things done.

01:46:04.000 These people are not harmless.

01:46:06.000 These people run culture.

01:46:08.000 These people have the power to affect the decision-making of massive multinational corporations.

01:46:13.000 Yes, because they're loud, because they're organized, and they have just enough.

01:46:17.000 They're not smart.

01:46:18.000 You know, they're kind of like dangerous smart.

01:46:19.000 They're just like a little bit clever and with a little bit of bare-bones sophomore at college education in gender theory and all the rest of it.

01:46:27.000 They sound smart enough that they can give this veneer of thoughtfulness about something that is just hateful and insane.

01:46:35.000 And it's so weird to me that we have allowed the worst people in society to run the rest of us.

01:46:41.000 We are allowing the people who hate men to tell girls how they should be women.

01:46:46.000 Race baiters and black supremacists to explain to us how we should treat, you know, how we should negotiate complex racial issues.

01:46:54.000 We are allowing hideous fat monsters to tell girls. 1.00

01:46:58.000 No, these people look like something from a sci-fi movie.

01:47:01.000 They look like they're from a sci-fi movie.

01:47:03.000 Put them next to Jabber the Hut.

01:47:05.000 I like close your eyes and open them and it takes you a second, you know?

01:47:08.000 Like these people would be unknown to the America of the 1950s.

01:47:12.000 If you look at the pictures of like women in the 1950s and how elegant and svelte and beautiful they looked and you look now and this stuff hurts women the most.

01:47:21.000 It hurts women horribly because it's women who are suffering from the obesity crisis. 1.00

01:47:25.000 It's 60% of American women who are now seriously overweight and more women are getting obese at greater rates than the men are, right?

01:47:31.000 The women are getting fatter faster than the men are. 1.00

01:47:33.000 Did you read the new study that was just released?

01:47:35.000 Women of today, of 2016, are as heavy as men from 1960. 0.94

01:47:41.000 The first time ever that's ever happened.

01:47:43.000 Right.

01:47:43.000 But the thing is that the number of women and the rate of increase is skyrocketing for girls.

01:47:50.000 Why?

01:47:50.000 Because these hand beasts are telling them that being fat is fine and that fat people can do anything.

01:47:55.000 That fat people can do anything thin people can do.

01:47:57.000 Well, shut the fucking fridge then. 0.81

01:47:59.000 If you can do everything that thin people can do, close the fridge.

01:48:02.000 Put down the ice cream scoop.

01:48:04.000 Look at this.

01:48:04.000 The average American woman weighs 166 pounds.

01:48:10.000 That's a lot.

01:48:11.000 That is a lot.

01:48:12.000 That's a lot.

01:48:13.000 That's obese.

01:48:15.000 That's a lot, you know?

01:48:15.000 That's a lot for a woman.

01:48:16.000 That's crazy.

01:48:18.000 That is the same weight as the average American male from the 1960s.

01:48:23.000 And look, men are not completely, you know, men are not immune from this effect.

01:48:29.000 We're all getting fatter, but women are getting a lot fatter, a lot faster. 1.00

01:48:32.000 But that's a disturbing number.

01:48:34.000 Like, for that to be the average weight of a woman, that's obesity. 1.00

01:48:38.000 And that's also diet.

01:48:40.000 I mean, that's not like lifting weights.

01:48:41.000 No, no, no.

01:48:42.000 It's not like these women are doing CrossFit and they're fucking doing squats all the time. 1.00

01:48:45.000 It's got nothing to do with exercise.

01:48:46.000 You don't need to do exercise to lose weight.

01:48:47.000 It would be better if you did because your whole body gets stronger and better.

01:48:50.000 And you're the expert in this.

01:48:52.000 But all you need to do if you want to lose 200 pounds is stop fucking eating, right?

01:48:55.000 I got in trouble on Twitter.

01:48:56.000 You won't have seen this, but I got in a huge trouble on Twitter for fat shaming someone at the gym.

01:49:01.000 And I was like, no, this is disgusting.

01:49:03.000 I don't want to have to look at this, right?

01:49:05.000 Well, this is our first person.

01:49:06.000 This person gets thin, though.

01:49:07.000 They go to the gym.

01:49:07.000 Fat shaming works, right?

01:49:09.000 And I was doing this person a favor.

01:49:11.000 I was doing this person a favor because no, I wrote an article about this.

01:49:14.000 I'm serious.

01:49:15.000 I wrote an article about this.

01:49:19.000 You're getting snippy again.

01:49:24.000 My piece drew attention to the real point of my comment, which is the studies show.

01:49:29.000 Fat shaming works.

01:49:30.000 But did you point out an individual person and highlight them?

01:49:33.000 Yes.

01:49:34.000 And did you identify them?

01:49:36.000 No, I just did it from behind.

01:49:37.000 Oh, so they didn't show their face?

01:49:38.000 No.

01:49:39.000 Okay.

01:49:39.000 It's perfectly fine.

01:49:40.000 And, you know, look, this is how people get thin, worrying if it could be them next, right?

01:49:46.000 Somebody tells you you.

01:49:47.000 There's an argument for that.

01:49:48.000 look, I encourage you to go read the piece.

01:49:53.000 Thank you.

01:49:54.000 If you're listening to this, I think if you go to brightbot.com slash Milo, that's all the stuff buying about me, so it will be there somewhere.

01:50:01.000 No, you can find it.

01:50:02.000 And I wrote two things.

01:50:03.000 JCPenney, well, I wrote a thing about the JCPenney thing, saying this fat shaming thing was disgusting.

01:50:08.000 Somebody put a very hurtful comment underneath it.

01:50:10.000 They said, this is 1,600 words of tenuously connected fat jokes.

01:50:14.000 If I didn't know better, I would have got the impression that you were claiming the moral high ground merely as an excuse to call people ham planets.

01:50:21.000 I was very hurt by that criticism.

01:50:23.000 I think it's accurate and excellent.

01:50:25.000 That's a good criticism.

01:50:27.000 And there's a second.

01:50:31.000 What I explained in my follow-up piece is like, do some good, call someone fat today.

01:50:35.000 It works.

01:50:36.000 Don't believe these bullshit studies that come out.

01:50:39.000 The only serious study that says that fat shaming doesn't work is from University College London, and it is hopelessly flawed.

01:50:45.000 It deals with a tiny group of like 50-year-olds and upwards, and that's not what this is directed to.

01:50:49.000 That's not what the messaging is directed to because they're using young 25- to 35-year-old singers and writers in these commercials telling 20-year-old girls they can eat what the fuck they want.

01:50:57.000 This is not about 50-year-olds, right?

01:50:59.000 So don't believe this stuff because it's not true.

01:51:01.000 You've got to dig under the surface.

01:51:03.000 Of course, fat shaming works. 1.00

01:51:04.000 And anyway, so I got in trouble for this tweet, but I was doing that before.

01:51:07.000 When you say trouble, though, like what does that mean?

01:51:09.000 You got negative attention, but you knew that that was coming anyway.

01:51:12.000 That's not true.

01:51:14.000 No, I don't, because I tried to do a like a, you know, they do those like celebrities read mean tweets thing?

01:51:19.000 I wanted to do my own version of that, and I couldn't find any criticism.

01:51:23.000 Everyone loves me so much.

01:51:24.000 I like, please.

01:51:25.000 But no, seriously, I thought my fans were unshockable, and I have found something that they don't like, and it's fat shaming.

01:51:32.000 Well, if you're listening to this, like, you know, buckle up, buttercups, because there's plenty more coming.

01:51:38.000 This is, this is no, I'm not going to be, look, I didn't back down for feminism, I didn't back down for Islam, and I didn't back down for Black Lives Matter.

01:51:45.000 You think your quivering asses are going to make me do a U-turn? 1.00

01:51:48.000 Well, you're wrong.

01:51:50.000 No, this is, you know, this is something I don't want to see when I go out.

01:51:53.000 And that person in the gym, to your point about, you know, working out, that person in the gym doesn't need to be in the gym.

01:51:58.000 He was like 350 pounds or something.

01:52:00.000 The gym is worthless.

01:52:01.000 Don't bother lifting anything.

01:52:02.000 That's not true.

01:52:03.000 No, it is.

01:52:04.000 No, exercise is a great way to lose weight.

01:52:06.000 It's not.

01:52:06.000 No, it's not.

01:52:07.000 It's a great way to do it.

01:52:08.000 Cardio is pointless.

01:52:09.000 Cardio is a masochist way to lose weight.

01:52:10.000 It's completely pointless.

01:52:12.000 Listen, you can do something.

01:52:13.000 That is not true.

01:52:14.000 Some working like nutrient partitioning.

01:52:16.000 But you are entering into my realm.

01:52:17.000 That is not true at all.

01:52:19.000 350 pounds.

01:52:20.000 What is he realistically going?

01:52:21.000 What is he realistically going to do?

01:52:22.000 Cardio, it will elevate his metabolism.

01:52:25.000 It will aid in his body burning off fat.

01:52:28.000 The main thing he needs to do is just calories in, calories out.

01:52:30.000 Yes.

01:52:31.000 And if he's 350 pounds, the best thing he can do is just stop eating.

01:52:34.000 This is a person who is clearly taking in seven or half ten.

01:52:38.000 Because stopping a day.

01:52:39.000 Stopping eating actually slows your metabolism down because your body thinks it's in famine mode.

01:52:44.000 Eat the right things then.

01:52:45.000 One.

01:52:45.000 Yes.

01:52:46.000 That's what I mean.

01:52:47.000 You have to change your gut bacteria.

01:52:49.000 There's a bunch of different factors.

01:52:50.000 But one of the big ones is sugar.

01:52:52.000 Sugar and simple carbohydrates.

01:52:54.000 When I say stop eating, obviously that's a shorthand for don't go to McDonald's anymore.

01:52:59.000 If they just cut back the sugar and the carbs, their body would miraculously shrink. 0.64

01:53:04.000 Well, I've done it.

01:53:05.000 I've done it.

01:53:06.000 I'm literally, I told you, I've lost like 40 pounds and four inches off my waist in like four and a half years.

01:53:11.000 You can comment on it.

01:53:12.000 I can.

01:53:13.000 If you're fat, it's because you're lazy.

01:53:15.000 Like, stop saying that it is some kind of like hormonal deficiency or some emotional disorder.

01:53:20.000 Stop inflicting yourself on the rest of the world.

01:53:22.000 I don't want to see you at the gym until you are an acceptable size.

01:53:25.000 I don't want to see you.

01:53:27.000 You are horrendous and you are putting me off my workouts.

01:53:29.000 Stay home, eat better food.

01:53:31.000 If you have to run, get a running machine delivered to your house.

01:53:34.000 They start at $100.

01:53:34.000 Amazon has them.

01:53:36.000 I don't want to see you and I don't care.

01:53:38.000 And these people, I was on Reddit.

01:53:40.000 I was like this huge thread on Reddit last three days.

01:53:43.000 This monster is fat shaming some poor innocent guy at the gym.

01:53:46.000 He's not innocent.

01:53:47.000 His actions have consequences on the rest of the world, not least aesthetic consequences.

01:53:50.000 I don't want to have to look at you.

01:53:53.000 Well, I think that if someone being fat at the gym throws you off your workout, you are not dedicated to your task, sir.

01:54:01.000 Well, maybe, well, no, my attention.

01:54:03.000 I salute people that are fat that are taking a chance.

01:54:05.000 They're doing something different than making it to say, isn't it?

01:54:08.000 Good for you, honey.

01:54:09.000 You're turning your life around.

01:54:10.000 Do it at home.

01:54:10.000 Taking a chance?

01:54:11.000 It's hard.

01:54:12.000 Look, I saw this guy at the gym.

01:54:12.000 Do it at home.

01:54:14.000 His legs were like hanging out of his shorts.

01:54:17.000 He was just an enormous fat guy.

01:54:19.000 But he had the balls to go out in public like.

01:54:22.000 He shouldn't work.

01:54:23.000 He should stay home in shame and starve.

01:54:23.000 He shouldn't.

01:54:28.000 I disagree.

01:54:29.000 It's terrible for the immune system.

01:54:30.000 Take down the punch cards from whatever disgusting takeout you're going to.

01:54:35.000 Delete the numbers from your phone for the local pizzeria.

01:54:38.000 Order in some kale, some protein, some like vegetables and fruit, and start drinking water and have a good, healthy life.

01:54:46.000 But do it at home until you are an acceptable size.

01:54:48.000 And I don't look at you and want to vomit.

01:54:50.000 Because Frank, like, you know, fine, I'm easily distracted, as you can tell from my scatty conversation, right?

01:54:55.000 But I am very easily distracted.

01:54:57.000 I'm trying to focus on finishing my set, and my attention is drawn to this gigantic, just celestial body entering in, you know, to the sound of thunder and lightning because it's got its own fucking weather system.

01:55:10.000 You know, I'm sorry.

01:55:12.000 I don't know what it is that surprises people so much that a gay man would be bitchy about weight, but I just, I'm sick of it. 1.00

01:55:18.000 I'm sick of it.

01:55:19.000 You know, just stop it.

01:55:20.000 You're selfish, horrible people.

01:55:23.000 Like the disabled, like people in wheelchairs, incredibly selfish. 1.00

01:55:26.000 There's so no, no, no, no.

01:55:30.000 Do you know what we have to do?

01:55:32.000 Listen, listen.

01:55:33.000 You're trolling has gone too far.

01:55:35.000 No, no.

01:55:36.000 Do you know what we have to do?

01:55:37.000 Children, they're horribly crippled.

01:55:39.000 You know what you look like.

01:55:39.000 Stay home.

01:55:41.000 are monsters.

01:55:41.000 They're not children.

01:55:42.000 No, they have to Now, I was a property developer before I was a journalist, right?

01:55:46.000 I used to build houses.

01:55:47.000 This is why I can survive on a journalist's salary now.

01:55:51.000 And there's an ordinance in England where you have to put the light switches, not here, where everyone needs them, but here, where the wheelchair people need them.

01:56:00.000 Why?

01:56:02.000 I'm not selling my house to somebody with no legs. 1.00

01:56:04.000 Like, what the hell is going on?

01:56:05.000 This is a part of these tiny little minorities and people who say they speak for those minorities who don't.

01:56:10.000 Because most of the people that I know, I know veterans who are in wheelchairs who would probably laugh at the conversation we just had rather than getting offended.

01:56:17.000 And they would say, yeah, put the light switches wherever the fuck you want.

01:56:20.000 But no, these are stupid lobbies.

01:56:21.000 All of us have to count out of these tiny slices of society.

01:56:25.000 It's ridiculous.

01:56:26.000 You have to put these light switches down where they're inconvenient for 99.8% of the rest of the population.

01:56:31.000 And then these disabled people are demanding concrete ramps on the way up to the council building so they can go and collect their disability benefit and their welfare checks twice a year. 0.94

01:56:39.000 Just get someone to help you.

01:56:41.000 There was somebody in the UK who filed a lawsuit against the council who didn't have accessible ramps.

01:56:46.000 My God, these people are out of control.

01:56:49.000 I don't think there's anything wrong with a wheelchair ramp.

01:56:52.000 No, probably not.

01:56:53.000 I might have got a little bit.

01:56:53.000 You got a little crazy little carrier.

01:56:55.000 You should have stuck with the fat thing.

01:56:57.000 No, I mean, the fat thing I was sympathetic on.

01:56:59.000 And there is a Thing there where you're making sense, where making people feel bad, instead of saying you're beautiful no matter what you are, you're not beautiful.

01:57:07.000 It's unhealthy and it's not smart.

01:57:11.000 This beautiful at any size.

01:57:13.000 You know, the only people.

01:57:14.000 Beauty is unusual.

01:57:16.000 It's unique.

01:57:17.000 That's why it's so special.

01:57:18.000 Well, there are objective beauty standards for men and women.

01:57:21.000 Sure.

01:57:22.000 And there are people who most people find hot.

01:57:26.000 And those people tend not to be the size of houses.

01:57:31.000 Or never.

01:57:32.000 And usually when people say that they are hot, they're being disingenuous.

01:57:36.000 They're applying these artificial standards.

01:57:38.000 They're making a fake standard of human beings.

01:57:39.000 of course it's just bullshit what do you think by the way of the because I was I think it was Anne Coulter as well.

01:57:46.000 I was talking to somebody the other day about all this kind of like sexual harassment stuff, sexual harassment stuff that women do now when they've been touched on the leg or whatever. 0.97

01:57:55.000 And Anne has this theory, actually I don't know whether it was...

01:58:01.000 So let me just say this is my theory.

01:58:03.000 So this is not Anne Coulter's theory.

01:58:05.000 She is not guilty because I can't honestly remember whether she said this or not or where she said it.

01:58:08.000 But what do you think about this?

01:58:10.000 This sexual harassment craze right now.

01:58:12.000 It's really just a way for women to tell you they've been hit on, isn't it?

01:58:15.000 It's really just a way for women to tell you. 1.00

01:58:16.000 So where do you get the money?

01:58:18.000 But not just that, but somebody was expressing sexual interest in me.

01:58:20.000 Because all of these quote-unquote rape stories from campuses that don't actually involve any sex, of course, the ones that do involve sex, rape stories are all frauds and hoaxes.

01:58:31.000 The ones that involve sex, they sort of go, oh, hideous.

01:58:33.000 Someone touched my breast.

01:58:34.000 How awful.

01:58:35.000 What's a woman really telling you there? 1.00

01:58:36.000 She's telling you that someone was sexually interested in her.

01:58:40.000 It's a sort of bragging, isn't it?

01:58:41.000 Well, it only does.

01:58:43.000 Someone does really touch your breast.

01:58:45.000 How are you supposed to know now?

01:58:46.000 How are you supposed to know now?

01:58:50.000 Oh, God, that is sexual assault.

01:58:53.000 Our parents' generation would have turned around and said, keep your fucking hands to yourself and moved on with their lives. 0.99

01:58:59.000 They wouldn't have gone into university administrators and tried to destroy the guy's reputation and life over it.

01:59:03.000 It's not that big a deal.

01:59:05.000 Someone touched your tit.

01:59:06.000 Get over it.

01:59:07.000 That's a big deal.

01:59:08.000 That's a rude person that doesn't have any respect to somebody else's body. 0.77

01:59:11.000 It's rude.

01:59:14.000 You shouldn't be allowed to do that.

01:59:15.000 That's ridiculous.

01:59:16.000 You shouldn't be able to grab someone's pussy. 1.00

01:59:18.000 You should be able to grab girls' ass and stuff like that. 1.00

01:59:20.000 Obviously, there's a line, but listen.

01:59:22.000 But you can fuck with someone emotionally when you do that.

01:59:24.000 You're making physical contact with someone in a certain way.

01:59:27.000 If you are an adult, you know what appropriate behavior is.

01:59:31.000 Yes.

01:59:31.000 18 and 19-year-old kids who are coming to college, and this is where you, you know, messily exploring their sexuality, exploring other people.

01:59:40.000 There are all sorts of confused, awkward situations in those years at college.

01:59:45.000 Agreed.

01:59:46.000 What we should not do is be going in and legislating, which colleges are now trying to do, legislating the sex lives of people who are discovering each other and don't know what the rules are yet, right?

01:59:54.000 Everybody knows you don't walk up to a girl and grab her teeth.

01:59:56.000 No, they don't.

01:59:57.000 No, they should learn, and the best way to learn.

02:00:01.000 No, no, no.

02:00:02.000 The way to learn is a woman turning around and saying, keep your fucking hands to yourself, and your friend saying, dude, what are you doing? 1.00

02:00:06.000 That's how you learn.

02:00:07.000 Or your friend goes, dude, that was awesome.

02:00:10.000 I got it on camera.

02:00:11.000 Well, there are always going to be people like that.

02:00:12.000 You can't, you know, you would have learned that.

02:00:13.000 You're in a man's reputation because he touched this.

02:00:15.000 Yes, his reputation is shit.

02:00:17.000 He walks around grabbing strangers' tits.

02:00:19.000 No, see, this is a mistake.

02:00:21.000 Your natural instinct toward chivalry and gallantry, which is to your great credit, is, I think, blinding you to the reality of what's happening on college campuses, which is young boys are effectively being criminalized for normal exploration of their sexuality.

02:00:36.000 There's a difference between this very specific example you're talking about, unwanted grabbing of breast.

02:00:40.000 I do think that there's a lot of people trying to hit on people in a clumsy way that gets misinterpreted.

02:00:46.000 That's what I'm talking about.

02:00:47.000 Yes, that's an issue.

02:00:48.000 That's what I'm talking about.

02:00:49.000 But we're talking about physically grabbing someone's tit, which is really crossing the line.

02:00:53.000 People grab each other for kisses all the time.

02:00:55.000 Like in student nightclubs, people just go in for a kiss and maybe their lips touch or something.

02:01:00.000 Is that sexual assault?

02:01:01.000 Give me a break.

02:01:05.000 Yeah, we're talking about unwanted tit grabbing.

02:01:07.000 So that's worse than putting your tongue down someone's throat when they don't want it?

02:01:11.000 Well, if they don't want it, you should probably know when someone wants to be kissed.

02:01:15.000 Yeah, but that's exactly my point.

02:01:17.000 They don't.

02:01:18.000 You're at college.

02:01:19.000 You may have been to an all-boys high school, right?

02:01:21.000 But once you get to the point of the world, you're learning to come to terms with the opposite sex. 0.99

02:01:26.000 You are discovering your own body, their body. 0.97

02:01:28.000 You might not even know if you're gay yet, right?

02:01:30.000 You don't know what the rules are.

02:01:32.000 You know what the rules are.

02:01:33.000 I know what the rules are.

02:01:34.000 18-year-old kids do not know what the rules are.

02:01:36.000 And to have their reputations destroyed forever is obscene.

02:01:41.000 I think there's a difference between the scenario you're describing now, which is like a nightclub scene, two people are close to each other, a guy moves in for a kiss, takes a chance.

02:01:49.000 He punches her breast and goes in for a kiss. 0.99

02:01:51.000 I mean, these things just happen.

02:01:52.000 My God, if these campus administrators walked into a gay club, their heads would explode with the amount of inappropriate cock touching and all the rest of it. 0.95

02:02:01.000 But that's dudes.

02:02:02.000 Dudes with dudes.

02:02:03.000 There's no yang.

02:02:04.000 It's all yin.

02:02:04.000 It's true.

02:02:05.000 Lesbians don't have sex at all, do they? 1.00

02:02:06.000 Well, if they do, it's not the same.

02:02:09.000 That's another weird thing I wanted to bring up about transgender people is that a lot of them become lesbians. 0.98

02:02:14.000 They turn into women, but then they have to be a little bit more. 1.00

02:02:15.000 But then they won't have sex with women. 0.93

02:02:16.000 This is sort of another way their regret comes out, isn't it?

02:02:19.000 Well, that's a Bruce Jenner thing, and I know several other ones as well.

02:02:22.000 Is Jenner a lesbian? 1.00

02:02:24.000 Yeah.

02:02:25.000 Do we have to call him a lesbian now? 0.77

02:02:26.000 Well, he just Bruce Jenner, winner of the 200 meters, is now a lesbian. 0.98

02:02:32.000 Well, what's weird is when you go back to that era of the Olympics, like, what does it say?

02:02:36.000 Does it say Bruce Jenner won, or does it say Caitlin Jenner?

02:02:39.000 They've changed it.

02:02:41.000 They've changed it.

02:02:42.000 In Wikipedia.

02:02:44.000 In Wikipedia, it says, it says worse even than you think.

02:02:46.000 It says Caitlin Jenner was the winner of the men's 200 meters Olympics.

02:02:50.000 That's what it says now.

02:02:52.000 That's what it says.

02:02:54.000 Madness!

02:02:57.000 I'm serious.

02:02:58.000 That's what it says.

02:02:59.000 God, that's so crazy.

02:03:00.000 I know.

02:03:01.000 I know.

02:03:01.000 Well, that is a sign of the times.

02:03:04.000 What happened to us?

02:03:05.000 Why did we get so bizarre?

02:03:07.000 And how did it happen so quickly?

02:03:09.000 Conservatives gave up the culture wars.

02:03:13.000 That's a simple hand.

02:03:14.000 That's a simplistic answer.

02:03:15.000 No, it's that.

02:03:15.000 Well, sometimes there's a lot of people.

02:03:18.000 There's an accelerating attitude that somehow or another is prevalent throughout college campuses.

02:03:24.000 It's not the same left of the 1960s and the 70s.

02:03:28.000 It's this new left.

02:03:30.000 No, it's the same as the left.

02:03:31.000 It's coming from.

02:03:32.000 The left has mutated slightly.

02:03:33.000 It's got more hardline and crazier, but it is the same people.

02:03:36.000 I mean, the campus, you know, the same professors who were around in the 70s and 80s are now still working in the gender studies departments.

02:03:42.000 It's the same people.

02:03:43.000 But my views have got crazy people.

02:03:44.000 Yes, their views.

02:03:45.000 But my point is, the right doesn't really embrace much different values and rules than they did in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.

02:03:51.000 No, that's not true.

02:03:52.000 You just have no idea what they do because they've completely exited the conversation.

02:03:55.000 The right has not bothered to engage on university campuses.

02:03:59.000 It has not put up a fight in education or entertainment.

02:04:02.000 It has not put up a fight in the media.

02:04:04.000 It's not put up a fight anywhere.

02:04:06.000 It doesn't fought and lost the culture wars.

02:04:08.000 It merely handed them over to the left.

02:04:10.000 Because the right is full of dorks and geeks and losers and weirdos who are obsessed with money and power.

02:04:14.000 So all they care about is Wall Street and Washington.

02:04:17.000 What they forgot is that people don't vote for Wall Street and Washington.

02:04:20.000 People vote according to their values and they learn their values through culture, through art, through what they watch on TV, the music they listen to.

02:04:27.000 And the right just handed that over to the left.

02:04:29.000 And the left has run those things for 30 years.

02:04:32.000 And that's why things are so crazy, because the people running it have been unopposed for 30 years.

02:04:37.000 So their views have got ever more wildly hysterical and crazy.

02:04:40.000 Because we all need healthy opposition, you know?

02:04:42.000 But you don't think there's been a comparable sort of shift in the right where the left has gotten wilder and crazier with their ideas.

02:04:50.000 The right is not gone.

02:04:51.000 The right, well, it hasn't gone crazy.

02:04:52.000 If anything, the right has gone libertarian.

02:04:54.000 If you look at the most exciting bits of the right, perhaps Breitbart, where I work, I think a large proportion of Trump's voters, and I think a lot of just conservatives in general reacting against political correctness and responding to the worst excesses of nannying poll-clutching culture, I think the right has become libertarian.

02:05:12.000 Pearl-clutching, you know, sort of like fainting couch feminism and that kind of stuff. 0.99

02:05:12.000 Pole-clutching? 0.99

02:05:16.000 I think that for many on the right, the reaction against political correctness has pushed them in a libertarian direction.

02:05:22.000 And if you want to be a libertarian today, you pretty much have to be a conservative.

02:05:25.000 And I think also the other thing that's happened on the right is the death of really of the reduced influence of religion in politics, which you will probably find welcome, has meant, I think for people under 40, the social conservatism of their parents and grandparents' generation is effectively dead and gone.

02:05:45.000 And the most exciting young conservatives don't look like old conservatives.

02:05:49.000 They're not like rich old white men who hate gay marriage and sound faintly racist after a couple of glasses of wine.

02:05:55.000 They are young, interesting, quirky, funny, dissident punks who only find room to grow and be dangerous and difficult and expand on the right.

02:06:03.000 I think I fall into that bracket, but also a lot of Trump's young fans fall into that bracket.

02:06:07.000 People who just want the freedom to say, do and be anything.

02:06:11.000 There's nowhere left on the left for them.

02:06:13.000 That is a bizarre shift.

02:06:14.000 Yeah, it is.

02:06:15.000 That is a very bizarre shift where being accepting of that kind of behavior is much more thought of as something alright.

02:06:21.000 It's now a conservative thing.

02:06:22.000 That's bizarre.

02:06:23.000 It's now a conservative thing.

02:06:24.000 And I don't think anybody can realistically claim otherwise.

02:06:27.000 If you are a dissident, a mischief maker, if you believe in pushing boundaries in sex, culture, art, philosophy, literature, whatever it is, right?

02:06:35.000 If you want to be dangerous, you have to be a conservative.

02:06:38.000 And the left did this.

02:06:39.000 The right didn't do it.

02:06:40.000 The right didn't win any arguments.

02:06:42.000 The left just got overconfident and got carried away and alienated the rest of us.

02:06:47.000 I could have been like a center lefty if they were more sensible on, I don't know, economics or whatever.

02:06:53.000 But on social issues, I'm a perfect example.

02:06:56.000 I'm foul-mouthed and young and gay and love black, whatever, and all the rest of it.

02:07:03.000 I shouldn't be a conservative.

02:07:05.000 Right, yeah, on paper.

02:07:06.000 Right.

02:07:06.000 But I am because the left has ejected me because I've got the wrong opinions about things and because it won't let me talk how I want to talk.

02:07:12.000 Because you have honest opinions about feminism, honest opinions about social justice.

02:07:15.000 Right, and so I'm persona non garbage to the left.

02:07:18.000 I only got one place left to go.

02:07:20.000 And this is how the left has created hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Trump voters.

02:07:24.000 You know, the nannying and the controlling, that school marmishness, you know, where they want to order your crayons and treat us all like children, has pushed so many of us over to the right. 0.98

02:07:34.000 And I'm far right now.

02:07:36.000 I'm as right as it gets, you know.

02:07:38.000 I'm so far right on economics, all the rest of it.

02:07:41.000 Social, obviously, a bit more complex, but on the borders, on trade, I'm a Trump guy now.

02:07:48.000 I might have ended up very differently if I hadn't been ejected by the left.

02:07:51.000 But do you have any problems with Trump, with his behavior, with any of his past statements?

02:07:57.000 Nothing?

02:07:58.000 Nothing.

02:07:59.000 He's a perfect angel from heaven.

02:08:01.000 Oh, but you're being silly.

02:08:03.000 I think he's great.

02:08:03.000 No, I'm not.

02:08:05.000 What's he done?

02:08:06.000 Okay, tell me what the worst things you think he's done.

02:08:09.000 Well, business-wise, there's been, well, this is one of the things that Joey Diaz talked about on the podcast that he knew back from a long time ago.

02:08:17.000 In the construction business, Trump was famous for having these projects and not paying people.

02:08:25.000 That doesn't sound very likely.

02:08:27.000 If Trump.

02:08:28.000 It doesn't sound likely.

02:08:29.000 Where are these people?

02:08:30.000 Do you think they wouldn't have come out in the press by now?

02:08:30.000 Who are they?

02:08:32.000 They would have come out in the press.

02:08:33.000 There's quite a few of them.

02:08:35.000 He'll pull some of them up so you can see some of the stories.

02:08:38.000 But was it one New York paper.

02:08:41.000 I've heard a couple of times, too.

02:08:42.000 There's a bunch of smaller time contractors that would take away.

02:08:47.000 Some disgruntled little mom-and-pop shop.

02:08:50.000 No, it wasn't a mom-and-pop shop.

02:08:51.000 It was through and through.

02:08:52.000 It was through and through.

02:08:52.000 It didn't get it.

02:08:53.000 It was a construction company, and they would get a bid to work on one of his buildings, and they would spend all this money on it, and they would start working, and then he wouldn't pay them.

02:09:01.000 And in doing that, he crushed a lot of their business.

02:09:04.000 Has a history of not paying his bills that offers some insights into his personality.

02:09:08.000 USA Today has posted an explosive investigative story about what appears to be a deep aversion presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump has to paying his bills.

02:09:19.000 The short version USA Today claims is based on what looks like some rather impressive reporting.

02:09:25.000 Trump has for decades looked for just about any excuse he could find to stiff everyone from plumbers to, can't make this up, lawyers who represented him in non-payment lawsuits.

02:09:36.000 That's kind of funny.

02:09:37.000 That's kind of boss.

02:09:39.000 Every bad story about Trump has a punchline in there.

02:09:41.000 But hold on, it just makes you think fair.

02:09:43.000 At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by USA Today Network, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay for their work.

02:09:56.000 Well, that doesn't sound good.

02:09:57.000 It goes on and on.

02:09:58.000 That doesn't sound good.

02:09:58.000 I'm not going to defend that.

02:09:59.000 Good, Thank you.

02:10:01.000 That doesn't sound good at all.

02:10:02.000 I'm quite a close follower of Trump.

02:10:04.000 I didn't know this, so I will look into this.

02:10:06.000 Among them, a dishwasher in Florida, a glass company in New Jersey, a carpet company, a plumber, painters, 48 waiters.

02:10:12.000 48 waiters have filed lawsuits against him.

02:10:16.000 I think, you know.

02:10:17.000 Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at resorts and clubs.

02:10:22.000 When you run an empire, you know, this is a billion-dollar empire, you're going to get things like this.

02:10:26.000 And when you do it for decades, it's not going to be difficult.

02:10:29.000 Look, I mean, the Washington Project.

02:10:30.000 Richard Branson doesn't have those.

02:10:31.000 Well, not that we know of, but if he ran for president, we might find out.

02:10:33.000 I bet you wouldn't.

02:10:34.000 How do you know?

02:10:35.000 Because he's not that kind of guy.

02:10:36.000 Oh, please.

02:10:37.000 He's a very altruistic guy.

02:10:39.000 Is he?

02:10:39.000 Don't you think he is?

02:10:40.000 No, I think Richard Branson is one of the worst examples of a sort of, you know, quiet power behind this globalist elite that wants to break down borders and destroy all our countries.

02:10:50.000 Richard Branson is about as close to the devil as it's possible to get.

02:10:54.000 No, no, I do know.

02:10:55.000 I'm not a genius impression of him.

02:10:56.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

02:10:57.000 On Necker Island, the guest he has at Necker Island.

02:10:59.000 How hard do you even read this stuff?

02:11:00.000 I mean, for somebody who's, you know, who's in Richard Branson's Island, where he lives.

02:11:06.000 This wonderful guy you know so much about?

02:11:07.000 Well, I don't know about where he lives.

02:11:09.000 I just know about his business.

02:11:11.000 What does he do with this business?

02:11:12.000 Not much, evidently, because that's where he strikes all his deals.

02:11:15.000 But I mean, what's the significance of the business?

02:11:15.000 I would encourage you, I would encourage you to revisit the subject of Richard Branson.

02:11:19.000 Well, tell me what's going on on his island.

02:11:21.000 Well, just the guestlists he has on this island.

02:11:23.000 Very suspect.

02:11:23.000 The guestlist?

02:11:25.000 I mean, it's basically like a little Bilderberg, you know, little, you know, politicians.

02:11:29.000 Maybe he's trying to coax his kids to be nice.

02:11:34.000 Feeds them some guava smoothies.

02:11:36.000 I just can't, I just can't relate to him.

02:11:38.000 Look at him.

02:11:38.000 I just disgusting.

02:11:40.000 I just out of control, wearing flip-flops on the roof of his own fucking island.

02:11:40.000 Bawling.

02:11:44.000 What a madman.

02:11:44.000 Holla.

02:11:45.000 I just can't relate to Gingers. 1.00

02:11:47.000 I'm just not going to get involved.

02:11:47.000 I'm sorry.

02:11:49.000 How dare you?

02:11:50.000 I mean, but he seems to have a very positive and a very inspirational message.

02:11:56.000 He's good at branding himself that way, yes.

02:11:58.000 You think that's all bullshit?

02:12:00.000 Well, you're looking at me sideways.

02:12:01.000 I'm just asking you an honest question.

02:12:02.000 You just have this weird I listen to you all the time because I find your conversations with people very interesting.

02:12:07.000 You just have these weird...

02:12:12.000 That's okay.

02:12:12.000 Thank you.

02:12:14.000 By the way.

02:12:17.000 My favorite.

02:12:18.000 Okay, he wins.

02:12:18.000 Look at him.

02:12:19.000 Yeah, that's all right.

02:12:19.000 Look at her.

02:12:20.000 My favorite.

02:12:21.000 Yeah.

02:12:21.000 Is that real?

02:12:22.000 Well, he wins.

02:12:23.000 He's got this naked girl on his back, and she's not very careful. 0.98

02:12:27.000 It's the incessant of degenerate sexual encounters, Necker Island.

02:12:30.000 You mean he's ball and out of control?

02:12:33.000 No, he's like a sort of shit Dan Bilzerian, you know?

02:12:35.000 He's like Dan Bilzerian.

02:12:36.000 Dan Bilzerian without the personality, you know?

02:12:40.000 Okay.

02:12:41.000 Anyway.

02:12:42.000 So what's wrong with you?

02:12:43.000 By the way, uncompliment question.

02:12:47.000 Uncompliment sandwich.

02:12:47.000 That's not a real thing.

02:12:49.000 No, my favourite story about Jennifer Lopez ever, and I don't know if it's true, but I'm thinking of like making people do this with me now.

02:12:58.000 I don't know if it's true.

02:12:59.000 I hope it's true.

02:13:00.000 It's one of those stories that, you know, Mariah Carey is like, you know, oh, I'd love to be.

02:13:03.000 You know, when you talk about Africa, you know, I'd love to be thin like that, but not with all the flies and death and stuff. 1.00

02:13:07.000 She never said that.

02:13:07.000 That's not true.

02:13:08.000 She should have said it.

02:13:09.000 I know.

02:13:11.000 Hilarious.

02:13:12.000 No, it is great.

02:13:13.000 Like that Justine Sacco quote.

02:13:15.000 She was that woman that got fired. 1.00

02:13:16.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:13:17.000 The AIDS joke. 0.52

02:13:18.000 Just kidding, I'm not white. 0.76

02:13:18.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.76

02:13:20.000 Just kidding, I'm white.

02:13:22.000 Just kidding, I'm white.

02:13:22.000 I hope I don't get AIDS.

02:13:23.000 It's fairly funny.

02:13:24.000 It's funny.

02:13:25.000 I mean, it's funny, yeah.

02:13:25.000 It's fairly funny.

02:13:26.000 I thought so.

02:13:27.000 I thought so.

02:13:27.000 It's inappropriate.

02:13:28.000 That's why it's funny.

02:13:29.000 Fuck you, Gorka.

02:13:30.000 I liked this famous Jennifer Lopez thing, and I hope it's true, where she's like, she cuts off an interview. 0.99

02:13:36.000 She says, you don't do this very often, do you?

02:13:37.000 And he's like, what?

02:13:38.000 And she's like, compliment, compliment, question.

02:13:41.000 And he just looks at her.

02:13:43.000 Isn't it great?

02:13:43.000 Isn't it real?

02:13:44.000 Isn't it great?

02:13:44.000 I hope so.

02:13:45.000 I hope so, too.

02:13:46.000 Isn't it great?

02:13:46.000 Compliment, compliment.

02:13:47.000 Compliment, compliment, question.

02:13:49.000 I make my assistant do that now sometimes with people who interview me, like just to fuck with them at the beginning, to get them on a back foot.

02:13:56.000 Because they don't quite have the balls to, because I'm not a star.

02:13:59.000 I'm just like, you know, I made a little name for myself on the campus staff, and people know me quite well as a journalist and all the rest of it.

02:14:04.000 I'm becoming popular, but I'm not there yet.

02:14:08.000 We're not at Joe Rogan levels of notoriety yet.

02:14:11.000 Could I get him to do it?

02:14:12.000 Because even with my sort of lowly profile, such as it is, people still aren't quite confident calling me out on it, and they're not brave enough to laugh.

02:14:21.000 So I have my assistant just interrupting.

02:14:23.000 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

02:14:24.000 Could you just compliment, compliment, question?

02:14:29.000 Oh, I'd love to see the look on their face when they fucking process that.

02:14:32.000 Why do you think I do it?

02:14:33.000 It's great.

02:14:35.000 They just freeze and then they do it.

02:14:37.000 And then they do it.

02:14:38.000 They have to.

02:14:39.000 I love your work.

02:14:40.000 You're really great.

02:14:41.000 and your hair looks nice today.

02:14:42.000 Can I just ask you about...

02:14:44.000 Easy.

02:14:45.000 Easy.

02:14:45.000 It's not hard.

02:14:46.000 Easy.

02:14:46.000 Anyway.

02:14:47.000 Anyway, yes.

02:14:47.000 It's not hard.

02:14:49.000 No, I was going to say, you have these weird, you're like the most skeptical person in some regards.

02:14:54.000 And you'll be like, no, you're like a truffle hound. 0.98

02:14:57.000 You know, you want to get down to the truth.

02:14:58.000 Drop that.

02:15:00.000 A truffle hound is a very, very obscure reference.

02:15:03.000 No, well, not if you eat a lot of truffles.

02:15:05.000 No, I...

02:15:09.000 They use truffle hounds.

02:15:10.000 Yes.

02:15:10.000 Do you know that?

02:15:11.000 Sometimes they use pigs too, right?

02:15:12.000 They use pigs too.

02:15:12.000 They do.

02:15:13.000 But pigs sometimes have a habit of eating the truffles.

02:15:15.000 They're not eating the truffles, indeed.

02:15:16.000 Truffle hounds.

02:15:17.000 Dogs don't like truffles.

02:15:19.000 No, you're like a truffle hound, you know, just sort of like roosting around for the truth and talking about studies and, you know, way, way higher standard of debate and conversation than you normally hear, you know, on these kinds of, on these kinds of shows.

02:15:29.000 You know, this is why you're so popular.

02:15:30.000 And then sometimes you're just like, no, he's a really nice guy.

02:15:33.000 I said, he seems like a nice guy.

02:15:34.000 No, you didn't.

02:15:35.000 You didn't say seems.

02:15:36.000 You didn't say seems.

02:15:38.000 And you didn't know about Neclaisland.

02:15:39.000 Richard Branson?

02:15:39.000 You didn't know about Necara Island.

02:15:40.000 I didn't know the name of his island.

02:15:41.000 No, he owns an island.

02:15:42.000 I mean, he owns a lot of shit.

02:15:43.000 He owns Virgin Airlines.

02:15:44.000 Why do you think he's an Islander?

02:15:46.000 Ever fly Virgin?

02:15:46.000 Why do you think?

02:15:47.000 Yes, Virgin Atlantic is very good.

02:15:49.000 It's like a disco.

02:15:50.000 Upper class is good.

02:15:50.000 It's good.

02:15:51.000 They sing a song when they tell you the fucking seatbelt thing.

02:15:54.000 And they have that nice bar.

02:15:55.000 Yeah.

02:15:55.000 It's lovely.

02:15:56.000 Very, very good.

02:15:56.000 Very nice.

02:15:57.000 Very good.

02:15:57.000 And the interior is nice.

02:15:59.000 Do you know, Frank, on the rare occasions I had to fly coach, I always try to do it on Virgin because even economy on Virgin is quite nice.

02:16:05.000 Yeah, they're nice planes.

02:16:06.000 He's got it nailed.

02:16:07.000 Yeah, good, but probably not a nice guy.

02:16:10.000 Who knows?

02:16:11.000 Not us.

02:16:12.000 He seems like, if I had to pick out the philanthropic.

02:16:17.000 Well, surely that's Bill Gates.

02:16:18.000 Yes, he's a nice guy, too.

02:16:20.000 I think Bill Gates is a nice guy.

02:16:22.000 He seems to be a very nice guy.

02:16:23.000 He seems cool.

02:16:24.000 Yeah, well, he does a lot of legitimate charity work and donates millions of dollars.

02:16:30.000 You've got $6.

02:16:31.000 You can afford to at that level.

02:16:33.000 I mean, it's all write-off for him, for sure.

02:16:35.000 But I think the Bill and Melinda Gates thing, that is genuinely what they do now.

02:16:40.000 That's their life now.

02:16:41.000 And they're trying to really fix things, like malaria and all the rest of it.

02:16:45.000 It's beautiful.

02:16:46.000 It's great.

02:16:46.000 Yeah, no, it is.

02:16:47.000 It's great.

02:16:47.000 And you know, it's interesting.

02:16:49.000 I can't think of another example of somebody who was so hated for like two decades as he was when he was running Microsoft.

02:16:56.000 So completely, successfully reversed their own reputation in just 15 years.

02:17:00.000 Yeah, it is interesting.

02:17:01.000 Totally and completely 180's public reputation.

02:17:07.000 Yeah, how did he do that?

02:17:08.000 One of the things he did is...

02:17:09.000 I think sincerity and intelligence...

02:17:16.000 He wasn't a fame whore.

02:17:18.000 He wasn't demanding attention.

02:17:19.000 He just said, here's what I'm going to do in my life now.

02:17:22.000 And spoke simply and seriously and actually did things.

02:17:25.000 And who's that crazy guy that he had running his company, the big fat, bald guy with Bulma?

02:17:30.000 Run around screaming and yelling.

02:17:30.000 I love him.

02:17:32.000 Developers, developers, developers.

02:17:34.000 This company.

02:17:36.000 And he's sweating.

02:17:37.000 Look, he's going to steal.

02:17:37.000 He's out of it.

02:17:39.000 I love Steve Walmer.

02:17:40.000 I loved him.

02:17:41.000 That video is goddamn classic.

02:17:43.000 But if I work for Microsoft, I'd be terrified.

02:17:45.000 I'm like, I have to muster up this level of enthusiasm.

02:17:49.000 Although I get fired.

02:17:50.000 Look at this.

02:17:50.000 Here he is.

02:17:50.000 Yeah.

02:17:51.000 Yeah, the monkey dance or something.

02:17:53.000 Come on! 0.61

02:17:54.000 Get on! 0.69

02:17:55.000 Get on! 0.69

02:17:57.000 Come on! 0.61

02:17:58.000 Come on! 0.61

02:17:59.000 I love him.

02:18:00.000 I love him.

02:18:01.000 This is nuts.

02:18:02.000 He's still like this, because there's a video of him at basketball games, and he's like this in the front row in the basketball game.

02:18:09.000 This is just who he is.

02:18:10.000 He bought the Clippers from Sterling.

02:18:12.000 Oh, that's right.

02:18:12.000 Yeah.

02:18:12.000 Did he?

02:18:15.000 He probably orchestrated the fucking wiretap.

02:18:17.000 It was probably a long chess game.

02:18:19.000 That son of a bitch.

02:18:20.000 That is one of the most bizarre things ever.

02:18:22.000 Because if you listen to what that guy said that cost him the Clippers, that is one of the weirdest intrusions.

02:18:28.000 So you're wandering outside my everybody.

02:18:29.000 You know the whole thing?

02:18:30.000 Donald Sterling was the guy.

02:18:31.000 Well, it enters into your area.

02:18:33.000 Tell me about it.

02:18:34.000 Because it deals with social justice.

02:18:35.000 He was a Clippers owner to one of the bigger basketball teams, right?

02:18:40.000 Los Angeles area.

02:18:42.000 He has this girlfriend, and he says, I don't want you taking pictures with black guys. 1.00

02:18:47.000 Because she takes a lot of pictures of these black guys on her Instagram page.

02:18:50.000 He goes, I don't mind if you fuck them, but I don't want you taking pictures.

02:18:55.000 Now, they conveniently left out the, I don't care if you fuck them. 1.00

02:19:01.000 I just don't.

02:19:02.000 Because it embarrassed him because everybody knew it was his girlfriend and she fucks everybody.

02:19:06.000 So she's got pictures with all these stud athletes and everyone knows these stud athletes are boning her. 0.90

02:19:13.000 It embarrassed him.

02:19:14.000 He said, I don't like you taking pictures.

02:19:16.000 What did you show me there?

02:19:18.000 Here it goes.

02:19:18.000 It bothered me a lot that you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people.

02:19:22.000 Do you have to, the man believing to be Sterling says.

02:19:25.000 You can sleep with them.

02:19:26.000 You could bring them in.

02:19:27.000 You could do whatever you want.

02:19:29.000 The little I ask you is not to promote it on and not to bring them to my games.

02:19:34.000 But that's nice.

02:19:35.000 That's him just saying, please don't humiliate me because, you know, you're my girlfriend.

02:19:40.000 Yes.

02:19:41.000 And you are ritually humiliating me in public.

02:19:45.000 But he's just asking you not to do it.

02:19:47.000 But she specifically said black eyes.

02:19:48.000 Like, what if she brought in some fucking Vikings? 1.00

02:19:51.000 Well, who cares?

02:19:52.000 Giant bearded axe-wielded.

02:19:54.000 No, because it's humiliating.

02:19:55.000 It's a compliment to the black people because he's identifying them as the master race they are. 0.99

02:20:00.000 And he's like, you know, I'm just some little white guy and you keep going out with these massive six foot four athletes and you're humiliating me, please stop it.

02:20:07.000 And obviously if she was a coal burner and she's just going out and fucking black guys Is that what they call them? 1.00

02:20:07.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:20:14.000 Yeah, or girl fucking. 1.00

02:20:15.000 Or a Snicker liquor.

02:20:18.000 But a coal burner?

02:20:20.000 Holy shit, that's funny.

02:20:21.000 Or a Snicker liquor, which is the other one I love today.

02:20:23.000 That's a good one.

02:20:24.000 Yeah, I like that, but not as much as Coal Burner. 0.98

02:20:26.000 Coal burner is just fucking old stuff.

02:20:28.000 I don't know where I got it.

02:20:29.000 I think it might be some like 1940s racist thing, but I'm going to reclaim it because I'm allowed because I am one.

02:20:36.000 That's the rule, right?

02:20:36.000 That's the rule these days.

02:20:37.000 That's the rule these days.

02:20:38.000 I'm fucking coal burner, sir.

02:20:40.000 That's the rule these days.

02:20:40.000 Yes.

02:20:41.000 I can say whatever I want as long as I am it.

02:20:43.000 Noah, she's only fucking black guys, and she's not really putting out for her rich white husband, and he's. 1.00

02:20:49.000 Oh, let's say boyfriend.

02:20:50.000 She has a wife.

02:20:51.000 I mean, who cares?

02:20:51.000 He has a wife.

02:20:53.000 Who cares?

02:20:54.000 This is an example of the media, right?

02:20:55.000 It's just cherry-picking to say that everyone's racist when everyone's not racist.

02:20:59.000 Because his primary motivation in this statement had nothing to do with race.

02:21:02.000 And you could say, why did he need to say black at all?

02:21:04.000 But who cares?

02:21:05.000 That wasn't what he was asking her about.

02:21:07.000 It wasn't the thrust of his remarks.

02:21:09.000 And the media, because it is populated by children, not by adults, did this to him, if it sounds like, I mean, I don't, I'm speculating from literally the tiny bit you just told me, but it doesn't sound to me to be, in your words, problematic.

02:21:23.000 Yeah, well, here's another issue with it.

02:21:24.000 It was a private conversation that he did not think was being broadcast.

02:21:28.000 And people are allowed to say fucked up things that maybe they shouldn't have said, and it doesn't have to be shared to the whole world.

02:21:34.000 And then he loses his team.

02:21:37.000 This is the craziest part about it.

02:21:39.000 Are people bastards?

02:21:40.000 The president of the NBA makes this speech.

02:21:43.000 First of all, he looks like Nosferato, right?

02:21:45.000 He looks like he just fucking the president.

02:21:49.000 He looks like he popped out of a coffin.

02:21:51.000 He sits straight up and he reads this fucking canned, ridiculous speech about the horrors of what this guy.

02:22:00.000 Look at him.

02:22:01.000 Look at Nosferado.

02:22:03.000 Oh, wow.

02:22:04.000 Blood.

02:22:05.000 Look, he's got no white to his eyes.

02:22:07.000 It's all black. 0.97

02:22:07.000 You won't see him. 0.97

02:22:08.000 That's a demon. 0.90

02:22:09.000 That's a demon. 0.90

02:22:11.000 Even the white stuff is all red.

02:22:13.000 It's like blood behind it.

02:22:14.000 Yeah, he's scary.

02:22:15.000 He's scary.

02:22:16.000 He's like a pure blood.

02:22:17.000 You know, the ones that are like paler and older than the thousands of years ago.

02:22:20.000 Yeah, like he wasn't made.

02:22:22.000 He was born.

02:22:23.000 Born vampire.

02:22:24.000 Right, right.

02:22:25.000 Yeah.

02:22:25.000 And anyway, it was very unreasonable the way he described it.

02:22:30.000 Look, what the guy said was not nice.

02:22:33.000 It was sordid.

02:22:34.000 It was gross.

02:22:35.000 But more gross, I would have said if I was him, how gross is it that we're listening to this man's private conversation and judging?

02:22:42.000 But I want people to say this stuff in public.

02:22:44.000 Well, not only that.

02:22:45.000 The guy was drunk.

02:22:46.000 He was drunk.

02:22:46.000 Okay?

02:22:47.000 He was with his mistress.

02:22:48.000 I don't care about anything he said.

02:22:49.000 That seems completely reasonable statement to me.

02:22:52.000 Well, you're allowed to say fucked up things.

02:22:54.000 Look, if your girlfriend was cheating on you with a bunch of black guys, you would not say, why are you cheating on me, all these guys?

02:23:00.000 You would say, no, but listen, listen.

02:23:02.000 If you had a girlfriend, of course, no girl would ever cheat on you because, look at you, but.

02:23:06.000 Oh, so nice.

02:23:07.000 I know.

02:23:08.000 My boss now is so used to these sort of flippant compliments.

02:23:14.000 He now no longer believes them.

02:23:16.000 He says, you have to give me the same exact compliment three times so I know you actually mean it.

02:23:21.000 He's a three compliment.

02:23:23.000 He's three compliments and then a statement.

02:23:25.000 Yeah, compliment, compliment, compliment question.

02:23:30.000 No, he's like, if you don't give me on three separate occasions, unrelated separate occasions, the same compliment, I'll know it's just you being a flatterer, which I think is reasonable.

02:23:39.000 But no, if you had a girlfriend and she was cheating on you and she was exclusively cheating on you with black guys, when you had a conversation with her, you would not say, I don't mind you sleeping with all these men. 0.96

02:23:50.000 You would say, I don't mind you sleeping with all these black men. 1.00

02:23:53.000 That's how people talk because it's a group that is very identifiably not you.

02:23:53.000 You would do that.

02:23:58.000 And what you're implicitly saying is, what is it that they have that I don't have?

02:24:01.000 Well, obviously.

02:24:03.000 That's what's going on there.

02:24:04.000 He's not being racist.

02:24:06.000 He's identifying a pattern of behavior from her.

02:24:09.000 And that's how we would all talk.

02:24:14.000 It's even more bizarre than that.

02:24:16.000 Well, it's even more bizarre because he said, I don't mind if you fuck them.

02:24:20.000 Isn't that the best fucking boyfriend in the world?

02:24:22.000 Isn't it funny, too, that they bleeped out fuck and they put in parentheses sleep with? 0.87

02:24:28.000 Like they changed.

02:24:29.000 People are dumb.

02:24:30.000 Like they changed.

02:24:31.000 Like the Orlando transcript, which wasn't allowed to have any mention of Islam or ISIS whatsoever.

02:24:38.000 What do you mean?

02:24:38.000 Did you know that?

02:24:39.000 now?

02:24:39.000 No, the way I want people to have conversations like that and far worse in public all the time everywhere because I want to rob words of their magical powers.

02:24:49.000 You want to know what people really think.

02:24:52.000 I want people, if somebody wants to use the N-word because they don't like black people, I want to know about it.

02:24:57.000 I want to know who the racists are.

02:24:59.000 I want to know who the sexists are. 0.95

02:25:01.000 I want to know because I want to be president.

02:25:02.000 No, I'm kidding.

02:25:02.000 I'm joking, joking, totally joking.

02:25:04.000 It's very reasonable.

02:25:05.000 I want to know who people are.

02:25:06.000 And when you force people to sign up to bogus speech codes, nobody knows who anyone else is.

02:25:11.000 It doesn't change their intent, and it doesn't change their thoughts.

02:25:13.000 And in fact, it can make it worse because when you suppress them.

02:25:16.000 Exactly.

02:25:16.000 And then it bottles it up.

02:25:17.000 And then you get to.

02:25:17.000 And you look for a bottleneck.

02:25:19.000 We're on the same page.

02:25:20.000 We're on the same page.

02:25:21.000 I want all this stuff to happen in public.

02:25:23.000 I really do.

02:25:23.000 Yes.

02:25:24.000 And I was going to say something else, but I've forgotten.

02:25:24.000 I do.

02:25:29.000 Oh, yes, the censorship thing.

02:25:31.000 I hate this.

02:25:32.000 I hate this.

02:25:32.000 You know, this bleeping and censorship stuff.

02:25:36.000 Department of Justice says, scrub Islam references for the transcripts that terrorists call to police.

02:25:40.000 You're great.

02:25:40.000 You're amazing.

02:25:41.000 I wouldn't be able to find this stuff so fast.

02:25:43.000 This is true.

02:25:43.000 This is insane.

02:25:44.000 And then they got ridiculed and humiliated into releasing the actual full transcript, which I think still wasn't quite there.

02:25:49.000 But I hate this.

02:25:50.000 I hate this instinct of it.

02:25:51.000 I hate any time that people don't quote properly.

02:25:55.000 Whether it's to like, you know, because, oh God, people can't quote properly.

02:25:57.000 What do you think is going to be a property?

02:25:59.000 Why would they think that that would be okay to do?

02:26:01.000 Why would the Department of Justice do that?

02:26:03.000 Because it's because, I mean, look, Loretta Lynch is the Attorney General. 0.99

02:26:06.000 These people are Democrats.

02:26:07.000 They are pandering to Islam. 1.00

02:26:08.000 It's very simple.

02:26:09.000 They are pandering to Muslims. 1.00

02:26:11.000 They're pandering to Muslims and demonstrating they don't give a shit about gay people. 0.98

02:26:15.000 That is bizarre that they would want to take out the references to Islam.

02:26:21.000 He's like saying, Allah la la la, you know, like, you know, doing the Shahada, God knows what else, saying, you know, in the name of Allah, most merciful, most great, I'm doing this terrible thing, you know, I'm doing this for ISIS, I'm a proud Muslim, I'm killing in the name of Allah, and all the rest of it.

02:26:33.000 And I think even when they put the transcript back, I think they changed Allah to God, you know, just to wind up Christians, just to piss us off, you know, just to wind people up, just to sort of muddy the waters, you know, just to sort of, oh, you say religiously muddy. 0.92

02:26:46.000 That's a massive piece of deception.

02:26:49.000 It's to change.

02:26:50.000 To change the words like that.

02:26:51.000 Of course, of course.

02:26:52.000 And they use censorship and changing all the rest of it.

02:26:54.000 But to think that you have the power to do that.

02:26:57.000 No, it's obscene.

02:26:58.000 That is a direct violation of the press.

02:27:01.000 Direct violation of journalism.

02:27:03.000 And to distribute information that's so distorted like that.

02:27:07.000 Almost worse than the motivations behind it and the fact they did it is the contempt and low esteem in which they must hold the public and the press to think that we would think that was okay and put up with it and not know what was in the gaps that they redacted.

02:27:24.000 Have they commented on this?

02:27:25.000 No, they got so ridiculed by all sides that they released a new transcript with, I think, fewer expurgations.

02:27:34.000 I don't know if it was complete, complete, complete.

02:27:36.000 Fine, I don't know if it's much better.

02:27:38.000 Because it's insane that they think they could do that.

02:27:40.000 It's insane.

02:27:41.000 Well, they didn't get away with it, but imagine them thinking they could get away with it.

02:27:45.000 What that says about their opinion of the public.

02:27:48.000 That's almost worse.

02:27:50.000 Well, it's not just that.

02:27:51.000 It's their sense of entitlement, the amount of power that they think that they...

02:27:56.000 Yeah, I mean, that is warping reality.

02:27:58.000 It's 100% warping.

02:28:00.000 Because it creates space for people, for idiots like Sally Cohn to say this was homophobically motivated.

02:28:06.000 Well, it was fucking it.

02:28:07.000 Is it a transcript or is it not a transcript?

02:28:09.000 If it's a transcript, you're supposed to be able to hear it.

02:28:09.000 Exactly.

02:28:10.000 It's a transcript.

02:28:11.000 What the fuck did he say?

02:28:13.000 Oh, wow.

02:28:14.000 That's so sensitive.

02:28:14.000 And they censored every single mention.

02:28:16.000 And this is not like usual right-wing kind of like, why aren't you naming Islam kind of stuff?

02:28:22.000 Right, you know.

02:28:23.000 Attorney General Loretta Lynch refused Wednesday to say who made the decision to remove references to the Islamic State and its leader from the publicly released version of the transcript of the 9-11 call involving the Orlando nightclub shooter.

02:28:36.000 The goal, of course.

02:28:38.000 Listen to this.

02:28:38.000 What?

02:28:40.000 The goal is, of course, the greatest transparency.

02:28:43.000 The initial thought was that we did not want to provide a further platform for the propaganda of the killer.

02:28:49.000 Bullshit.

02:28:50.000 What a load of crap.

02:28:51.000 That's a lie.

02:28:52.000 Of course it's a lie.

02:28:52.000 Of course.

02:28:53.000 Once it became an issue, we decided we would go ahead and release the full transcript, Lynch said.

02:28:58.000 She must have released the full one if she said it.

02:29:01.000 I guess they have.

02:29:02.000 I mean, God only knows if they really did release it or if they changed certain words.

02:29:05.000 Who knows?

02:29:07.000 But we have no way of telling.

02:29:09.000 And this certainly does not inspire us with confidence.

02:29:14.000 Look at this statement right here.

02:29:16.000 Hold on a sec.

02:29:17.000 Do we trust them even to have released the real one now that we know what they're doing?

02:29:21.000 Once you say you release the real one, it's just like it seems like it's going to get out.

02:29:25.000 Press on who decided to remove the references to ISIL as well as the name of the deceased shooter Omar Martin, Lynch, remained vague.

02:29:34.000 I'm not going to go into the detail of the process behind it, Lynch said.

02:29:38.000 Our review was not to further spread the propaganda, but once it became a distraction, we released the whole transcript.

02:29:44.000 What there does that mean?

02:29:46.000 And we know how you know it's a lie, right?

02:29:49.000 I mean, or at least how you know how stupid these people are.

02:29:52.000 They release, this is the deadliest shooting in American history, right?

02:29:57.000 The deadliest mass shooting in American history.

02:29:58.000 It is the biggest news in the country for weeks.

02:30:02.000 They released the deadliest mass shooting in American history.

02:30:05.000 No, it is true, but it is.

02:30:07.000 They showed two other ones that were really similar.

02:30:11.000 Which one had more of the same thing?

02:30:13.000 Just Google that Orlando was not the deadliest mass shooting in American history.

02:30:18.000 Google that.

02:30:19.000 I'll work on the assumption it's one of the top five.

02:30:23.000 This is horrible.

02:30:24.000 It was horrible.

02:30:25.000 Just for clarity's sake, I think.

02:30:27.000 I would like to know if I'm wrong about that.

02:30:29.000 But just assume that it's the biggest news story in America for three weeks.

02:30:33.000 The eyes of the world media are watching.

02:30:35.000 And this guy dialed 911 and made a phone call immediately before or whenever it is.

02:30:43.000 To think that you can gerrymander that is so dumb, just so mind-bogglingly stupid.

02:30:51.000 Given the suspicion with which normal people already hold the authorities, you know, and the politicization swirling around this is so stupid.

02:30:59.000 But think also, if what she was saying was true, right, what we did this to stop, you know, the spread of his hateful messages and to avoid, you know, more attention being on ISIS, what's more attention on now?

02:31:12.000 Now that it finally has come?

02:31:14.000 All anyone wants to talk about in that transcript is the words that she kept out.

02:31:18.000 All anybody will ever want to talk about in relation to that transcript for the rest of time is how the government cut out the names of ISIS and even his own name, you know?

02:31:28.000 Like cut out anything remotely Islamic looking. 1.00

02:31:31.000 Any Arabic words, anything remotely Islamic looking, cleansed it. 1.00

02:31:34.000 So that if you had only read that transcript and you knew nothing about the case, you might think the guy was just some straight white male homophobic shooter from Charleston, you know?

02:31:44.000 Yeah, they were trying to hide his name.

02:31:46.000 Exactly.

02:31:47.000 They hid his name.

02:31:49.000 Like we didn't know his name.

02:31:50.000 They hid his name.

02:31:51.000 So that if you read that document, you could have been persuaded to believe that this was some redneck homophobic Christian killer. 0.65

02:31:58.000 Which, of course, the left was saying, you know, oh, this is no better than blah, blah, blah.

02:32:05.000 All of the kind of like excuse making and molly-coddling and pandering and weaseling and, oh, let's use a Muslim killing gaze as an excuse to attack the Christians again. 0.99

02:32:17.000 All of this stuff that the left was doing, the government legitimized and assisted when it redacted that transcript.

02:32:25.000 Appalling.

02:32:26.000 Look at that.

02:32:27.000 It's ridiculous to think they thought they could get away with it, but it also shows how much fear they have of Islam and of Muslim people. 0.91

02:32:34.000 It's true.

02:32:35.000 There's a massive fear in this country, and that was the same fear that led them to suppress the images from Charlie Ebdo that got those cartoonists killed.

02:32:43.000 Nobody, I mean, that was a massive failure of the press, where no one Breitbart did, and kudos to you because that was a huge issue.

02:32:51.000 Time magazine and New York Times, all those people denied.

02:32:55.000 They were like, nope, we're not running that.

02:32:58.000 We don't want to die.

02:32:59.000 No, we did it.

02:33:00.000 We're always told the left is so stunning and brave, responsible for all these great social triumphs and civil rights victories and all the rest of it.

02:33:00.000 And it's funny.

02:33:09.000 And it seems to me that it's conservatives taking all the risks now.

02:33:13.000 It looks that way to me.

02:33:14.000 I mean, I'm going at the end of the month to Sweden.

02:33:17.000 I don't think I told you this.

02:33:18.000 You won't know this yet.

02:33:19.000 I'm going at the end of the month to Sweden to lead a gay pride march through a Muslim ghetto. 1.00

02:33:23.000 Because to me...

02:33:26.000 Yeah, indeed.

02:33:27.000 Glad I got to come on before the end of the month.

02:33:30.000 Because to me, it seems like the point of gay pride, if there is one anymore, is, and that's very much in debate in the West.

02:33:38.000 Surely the point of gay pride was always to sort of march defiantly through areas of social conservatism and reactionary religious bigotry and all the rest of it.

02:33:48.000 Well, that's only coming really from one direction now.

02:33:50.000 I don't think there's very much...

02:34:10.000 where British Muslims, 100% of British Muslims think that homosexuality is an unacceptable lifestyle choice, and 52% of them want gay sex made illegal.

02:34:18.000 This is coming from one religion, just one. 1.00

02:34:21.000 Stop lying to people that there is some equivalence between the discomfort occasionally felt by Christians about gay marriage and Muslims murdering homosexuals.

02:34:29.000 Just fucking stop it because nobody believes you anymore.

02:34:32.000 We were talking about this earlier that Michael Shermer had an excellent article about that, about Islam being the one religion that didn't go through the Enlightenment.

02:34:40.000 Yes.

02:34:40.000 It's a very illuminating article.

02:34:42.000 It really shows you how sort of isolated their ideology has remained.

02:34:48.000 And it's one of the very few ideologies from that long ago.

02:34:53.000 It remains fairly untouched.

02:34:55.000 Well, part of the reason I think for that, and he may have touched on this in the article, there are structural differences between Islam and every other major world religion, right?

02:35:03.000 So if you take the Quran, the Sunnah and the Hadiths, and you keep them together, Muslims will say this is the final, perfect, and unalterable word of God, the Quran, right? 0.94

02:35:11.000 And it's supported by the Hadiths and the Sunnah, so the sayings and doings of Muhammad and all the rest of it. 0.98

02:35:16.000 No other religion makes a claim for itself that God will never come back.

02:35:20.000 In fact, other religions make a specifically opposite claim.

02:35:24.000 And no other religion, I think, apart from Islam, has proven itself so resistant to modernity and so incapable of adapting to modern circumstances. 1.00

02:35:34.000 Christianity, for instance, has done a wonderful job of aligning itself with capitalist societies and adapting and changing with the times.

02:35:41.000 In my view, maybe not entirely in yours, but in my view, certainly in the last hundred years, has been nothing but a net positive for public life.

02:35:47.000 Now, Islam, of course, is sort of locked down into the social attitudes that people had when Islam was founded.

02:36:00.000 Christianity isn't. 0.96

02:36:01.000 You've even got the Anglican church now women bishops, gay marriages, probably whatever.

02:36:06.000 Christianity is adapting to this stuff and is changing.

02:36:09.000 But Islam has some problems.

02:36:11.000 I mean, another structural problem, of course, with it is that even Islam's own scholars say that where the Quran contradicts itself, as of course it does in many places because parts of it's just sort of plagiarized Old Testament and the rest of it's just mad, where it contradicts itself, there's a principle of abrogation, which means that verses that were revealed to Muhammad later, chronologically in time, supersede the earlier ones.

02:36:35.000 Well, the problem is that the earlier ones are the peace, love, and understanding ones, and the later ones, when he was a warlord, are the ones that kill the infidel verses. 0.80

02:36:42.000 So according to Islam's own scholars, and I don't think there's any real disagreement on this, the belly coast verses in the Quran take precedence over the peace, love, and understanding verses.

02:36:51.000 And of course, the other structural problems of religion that prevent it from engaging with modernity and intellectual inquiry and equality for women engaged and all the rest of it have led to things like, and people have heard me say this before, but I think it's an interesting, just one little data point.

02:37:04.000 There isn't a single world-class university anywhere in the Islamic world.

02:37:07.000 Not one.

02:37:08.000 I think you can fill in the gaps yourself.

02:37:08.000 Why?

02:37:10.000 But to claim that that is somehow equivalent, as we say, to this, to Memories Pizza, is insane.

02:37:17.000 It's completely absurd.

02:37:18.000 And for the government to deny gay people the right to educate themselves and deny gay people the knowledge they need to protect themselves about threats at home, and it is now dangerous to be a gay person in America.

02:37:30.000 Why?

02:37:31.000 It's not fucking memories pizza, it's Muslims. 1.00

02:37:34.000 To deny people the ability to educate themselves on that is unacceptable and unconscionable and unforgivable.

02:37:40.000 And so I'm doing two things.

02:37:42.000 One of them is we're going to do the shootback party at the Republican National Convention, which I'm going to show up to, which is just arm the gays. 1.00

02:37:51.000 There's a little party at the Republican National Convention just reminding gay people that the best way they can protect themselves is not pander to, is not suck up.

02:38:01.000 I don't see any reason why the NRA is not already.

02:38:04.000 Just take them all in.

02:38:05.000 Take them all in.

02:38:06.000 Well, it might be a good thing for the NRA at this point.

02:38:08.000 Hillary is losing. 0.74

02:38:09.000 I don't think the NRA is worrying about membership.

02:38:11.000 I think their membership grows every time there's one of these catastrophes.

02:38:13.000 It does.

02:38:14.000 Because every time there's some other...

02:38:18.000 I think the NRA is probably quite healthy in membership growth.

02:38:22.000 Well, it's quite healthy, but really the people who benefit are the arms manufacturers.

02:38:26.000 Good.

02:38:27.000 Good.

02:38:28.000 I want lots of market competition in the arms trade.

02:38:31.000 I want cheap, reliable firearms, so every home has got 12 of them.

02:38:35.000 Your country, you're not even allowed to have them.

02:38:37.000 No, no, I'm not allowed a pistol in my own country to protect myself, despite the fact that the government is letting in hundreds of thousands of people who want me dead.

02:38:44.000 And this is not just me being a crazy right-wing lunatic, although I am all of those things.

02:38:50.000 This is Gallup poll a couple of years ago polled 1,001 British Muslims.

02:38:55.000 100% of them said homosexuality was unacceptable.

02:38:58.000 And then a later poll.

02:39:01.000 That's higher than Palestine, where 96% of people in the Pew Global data say that homosexuality is unacceptable.

02:39:07.000 100%.

02:39:09.000 And 52% of those people want gay sex made illegal.

02:39:12.000 This is not crazy Muslims in Raqqa.

02:39:14.000 This is people two streets away from where I live, or even one street away, or even in the same building.

02:39:19.000 I don't fucking know.

02:39:20.000 They all think I'm unacceptable.

02:39:22.000 I don't want this in the West.

02:39:23.000 Get rid of it.

02:39:26.000 Lock and load.

02:39:27.000 No, I'm not gonna go out and, I'm not gonna go out and I'm putting my hand on my hip, you know, and making sure that I'm not in danger.

02:39:42.000 Yeah, damn right I am.

02:39:44.000 But you can't do that in your country.

02:39:45.000 No, I can't.

02:39:45.000 Well, why do you think I'm here?

02:39:46.000 Is that why you're going to come over here?

02:39:47.000 Well, I won't.

02:39:48.000 Can you move here?

02:39:49.000 Well, I'll.

02:39:50.000 You seem to fit the profile.

02:39:53.000 You make good money.

02:39:54.000 You're well respected.

02:39:55.000 You have a great job in a Republican publication?

02:39:59.000 I don't think I'd have a problem getting a value.

02:40:01.000 I don't think so.

02:40:02.000 What about a green card?

02:40:02.000 Pretty easy.

02:40:04.000 Just learn a bunch of goofy shit about our country that we don't remember?

02:40:07.000 I'll have to get married first.

02:40:08.000 I've talked to some people that have learned, Canadians that have come over here and gotten their green cards, and they know a lot more about this country than I do.

02:40:14.000 This is the best country in the world, and it would give me nothing but pleasure to see what I'm saying.

02:40:19.000 Oh, check your crazy.

02:40:20.000 Check your card.

02:40:22.000 It would give me nothing but pleasure to come and live here.

02:40:26.000 So I'll keep you posted on that.

02:40:28.000 Yeah, I definitely do.

02:40:29.000 But, you know, if the left is not going to be honest about the risks to gays, we've got to educate ourselves.

02:40:37.000 Stop listening to dumb as pig shit celebrities.

02:40:39.000 Stop listening to politicized reporters.

02:40:41.000 Stop listening to the government.

02:40:42.000 Stop listening to Obama and Hillary.

02:40:44.000 Trump, by the way, his speech after Orlando, magnificent.

02:40:48.000 What did he say?

02:40:49.000 The most pro.

02:40:50.000 Well, he's just saying, look, this is a problem for the gay community.

02:40:52.000 We cannot allow this stuff to come in.

02:40:54.000 I'm going to protect you.

02:40:56.000 You need to arm yourselves.

02:40:57.000 You need to read his speech because it's a lot more complex and nuanced than that suggests.

02:41:01.000 Genuinely great speech, which suggests to me that Obama might be a kind of like, almost like a Cameroonian politician.

02:41:08.000 Sorry, not the country, but I mean like David Cameron.

02:41:12.000 In the sense that he can sort of falter now and again, but when the moment calls for it, he rises to the occasion.

02:41:18.000 Bush was like that.

02:41:20.000 W's speech after 9-11 was pretty spectacular.

02:41:23.000 So Trump is very, very strong.

02:41:25.000 I mean, I think Trump is the most pro-gay candidate in American electoral history on either side of the divide, frankly. 0.60

02:41:30.000 I really do.

02:41:31.000 But anyway, gay people need to take this into their own hands, frankly. 1.00

02:41:35.000 And so I'm going to Sweden, where a year ago, the Swedish authorities told a gay pride march that it was needlessly provocative for walking through a Muslim area of Stockholm.

02:41:47.000 Now, that's, I mean, really.

02:41:49.000 Needlessly, needlessly provocative.

02:41:51.000 This is gay pride.

02:41:53.000 How much gay stuff goes on in the Muslim world? 1.00

02:41:54.000 Because isn't that a big issue as well?

02:41:56.000 A lot.

02:41:58.000 Because of the suppression.

02:41:59.000 Yeah.

02:42:00.000 Anyway, so we should get onto that because it's interesting.

02:42:03.000 So I'm going to ride, I hope, that my security guys...

02:42:09.000 I'm going to ride a horse, yes.

02:42:11.000 You are?

02:42:11.000 Into the Viking.

02:42:12.000 I'm going to ride a horse.

02:42:13.000 I'm hoping so, yeah.

02:42:14.000 The security people are asking me not to do it because they can't protect me if I'm much higher, you know?

02:42:18.000 Right.

02:42:19.000 Because anybody could take me out from anywhere.

02:42:20.000 But I'm hoping to persuade them to let me do it.

02:42:22.000 And I want to ride in with like, I want 20 people in a V-shape with like Milo banners behind me, like proper full Game of Thrones style.

02:42:28.000 You're going to pay these people for this?

02:42:32.000 We'll take all our people over.

02:42:33.000 I'm sure there'll be plenty of volunteers in this march anyway.

02:42:35.000 It's going to be me on horseback marching into the Muslim ghetto and then giving a speech about Islam and gays in the very heart of European cookery, this country, Sweden, which has given itself over completely to Islamic immigration, which is now the rape capital of Europe because Malmo in Sweden is now the rape capital of Europe because of uncontrolled Muslim immigration. 1.00

02:42:59.000 And the police there have been instructed not to record the ethnicity or religion of assailants.

02:43:03.000 So they don't even have statistics on who does it anymore, similar to the Loretta Lynch redacted transcript.

02:43:09.000 This is what I'm saying.

02:43:10.000 I don't see colour.

02:43:11.000 I just see people.

02:43:13.000 And men are rapists.

02:43:13.000 Exactly.

02:43:14.000 See, this is what the left does.

02:43:15.000 It's like you import a load of Muslims, Muslims start raping and stealing from everybody, and the response is this is toxic masculinity. 1.00

02:43:23.000 Mmm, that's a hilarious term.

02:43:25.000 I love that term.

02:43:26.000 Anyway, toxic masculinity. 1.00

02:43:28.000 What are they going to do about that?

02:43:29.000 What does Sweden plan to do to try to mitigate some of the rape?

02:43:32.000 Oh, do you know what they've done?

02:43:33.000 You know, don't you?

02:43:34.000 I do not.

02:43:34.000 You gave me a cue question.

02:43:35.000 Surely you did.

02:43:36.000 I'm lost.

02:43:38.000 I thought that was a canny, what do you call it?

02:43:42.000 Tea-up.

02:43:43.000 Yes.

02:43:44.000 Well, Sweden has issued women with wristbands, and these wristbands say don't rape.

02:43:49.000 That's Sweden's answer to the rape crisis. 1.00

02:43:52.000 No.

02:43:53.000 Yes.

02:43:54.000 Sweden's answer to the rape crisis is to issue women with wristbands that say don't rape and to forbid the police from mentioning the ethnicity and religion of assailants.

02:44:02.000 That's Sweden's answer to the rape crisis. 1.00

02:44:04.000 So I can't fix that, but I'm- That's Milo's answer to the rape crisis.

02:44:08.000 Deport all the Muslims. 1.00

02:44:10.000 Deport them.

02:44:11.000 Get rid of them.

02:44:12.000 Has anybody else suggested that?

02:44:14.000 Anybody in their country?

02:44:15.000 Is there any debate about how to handle this?

02:44:17.000 No.

02:44:17.000 What are they doing?

02:44:18.000 They're just sticking their head in the sand?

02:44:19.000 Yeah.

02:44:20.000 Wow.

02:44:21.000 So I can't fix the woman problem single-handed, but I can perhaps embarrass the government about the gay problem. 1.00

02:44:27.000 And I certainly hope to do that.

02:44:28.000 So end of the month, if you have enjoyed any of my programming or writing or anything, enjoy the next three weeks because after the 27th of July, that could be it.

02:44:38.000 That's a ballsy move, man, to go to one of the most problems.

02:44:45.000 Don't do it.

02:44:47.000 One of the most troubled areas in Sweden and to walk through these neighborhoods.

02:44:54.000 Now, these are obviously immigrant neighborhoods, right?

02:44:56.000 These are people that have recently been.

02:44:57.000 It's the Muslims. 0.96

02:44:58.000 It's exclusively Muslim. 0.59

02:44:59.000 And when did these people move into this area?

02:45:01.000 When did this start taking place?

02:45:02.000 I think over the last 10 years.

02:45:04.000 Sweden has taken in hundreds of thousands of them a year for the last 10 years, I think.

02:45:10.000 And that doesn't sound like a lot to an American, but Sweden doesn't have many people in it.

02:45:14.000 Sweden is not very populous.

02:45:16.000 There are a couple of towns, and that's really it.

02:45:18.000 Yeah, I mean, what's small?

02:45:19.000 What's the overall population of Sweden?

02:45:21.000 A couple of million, I guess.

02:45:22.000 I'm guessing.

02:45:23.000 Isn't it like 4 million or something?

02:45:24.000 I think you're right.

02:45:25.000 I think it might be less than that.

02:45:26.000 And I think it's a fairly small geographic area, too.

02:45:29.000 So they're on top of each other.

02:45:30.000 Well, I think there's a big stretch of it up north where basically nobody lives.

02:45:33.000 It's just like snow or something.

02:45:35.000 And then down, there's like three or four cities.

02:45:37.000 And yeah, I mean, so two, three hundred thousand people a year is not nothing.

02:45:41.000 I've been to Stockholm.

02:45:42.000 It's gorgeous.

02:45:43.000 Well, it won't be for long.

02:45:43.000 Beautiful.

02:45:44.000 It's stunning.

02:45:44.000 It'll be Al Stockholm soon.

02:45:46.000 Oh, boy.

02:45:48.000 Al Stockholm.

02:45:50.000 The only thing, you used to hear ABBA, and give it a couple of years, and all you will hear is Allah! 0.99

02:45:58.000 What were the numbers for mass shootings?

02:46:02.000 Did you?

02:46:03.000 Yeah, I got some.

02:46:05.000 The definition of what someone is using for what a mass shooting is is very varied.

02:46:09.000 So it's like if it's in one place, which is where the questions are coming.

02:46:15.000 They also don't count them if it's maybe a military.

02:46:19.000 What are the other options, though?

02:46:19.000 Right.

02:46:21.000 What are the other candidates for the number one?

02:46:24.000 There's a massacre.

02:46:26.000 Wounded knee massacre.

02:46:26.000 A couple of massacres.

02:46:28.000 St. Louis massacre.

02:46:28.000 Right.

02:46:30.000 Yeah, those are the two I remember.

02:46:32.000 Yeah, the St. Louis one and the wounded knee one were two I remembered.

02:46:36.000 There were hundreds of people there, right?

02:46:38.000 Yep.

02:46:39.000 Okay.

02:46:40.000 Well, depending on our definition.

02:46:41.000 But in any case.

02:46:42.000 Either way, horrible tragedy.

02:46:44.000 Right.

02:46:45.000 So I don't understand how Sweden thinks that they're just going to calm the situation down by not mentioning the gender or the name of the assailant.

02:46:53.000 Well, it's the basically just can't say it was Muslims that did it.

02:46:56.000 But everybody knows that.

02:46:57.000 But what it does is it means there are now no national statistics on this.

02:47:01.000 So nobody can say 97% of the rapes were committed by this portion of the population.

02:47:05.000 Fix this.

02:47:06.000 The government's answer is not fix the problem, but obscure the data.

02:47:11.000 They're going to ruin their whole country.

02:47:12.000 They already have.

02:47:13.000 Same as January.

02:47:14.000 Yeah.

02:47:14.000 Malmo, look, this was a feminist progressive paradise.

02:47:18.000 Sweden was like a left-wing paradise.

02:47:19.000 Sweden was one of the few countries where left-wing politics worked.

02:47:22.000 You know, they have taxes for everything.

02:47:24.000 In Sweden, I swear this is true because I have Swedish friends that told me this.

02:47:28.000 Property taxes in Sweden depend on how nice your view is.

02:47:31.000 So if you have a nice ocean view, they will charge you more, like local council tax.

02:47:35.000 I don't know what you call it in America.

02:47:37.000 Property tax.

02:47:37.000 Is that property tax, the tax you pay to the city to do the roads and stuff?

02:47:41.000 Well, yeah, there's property tax that you have.

02:47:45.000 We have a lot of taxes over here.

02:47:46.000 Anyway, so one of these taxes, if you have a nicer view, they literally have so little to do in Sweden that the government is just sitting around dreaming up new taxes for things and working out how they can charge people more money for things.

02:47:55.000 But it was, you know, fairly effective.

02:47:59.000 I mean, the country was a nice place.

02:48:00.000 So what was the thought process between letting all those people in there?

02:48:03.000 Just open-minded, liberal people that wanted to help out.

02:48:05.000 They're not crazy left-wing lunatics who refuse to accept reality.

02:48:10.000 They think that language shapes reality.

02:48:11.000 They think if they call, you know, if they think if they say lies often enough, that it becomes the truth, you know, which, of course, in some cases is true.

02:48:18.000 But if you say Muslims are peaceful often enough, it does not seem to come true. 0.72

02:48:23.000 There are limits to the power of positive thinking.

02:48:25.000 Is there anybody that thinks it's a good thing to have those people there?

02:48:28.000 Are there any arguments that this is a positive sort of multicultural benefit to Sweden?

02:48:35.000 I think Swedish people get it now.

02:48:37.000 I haven't seen any signs.

02:48:39.000 Yeah, but only now.

02:48:40.000 I haven't seen any signs that the government gets it.

02:48:43.000 And indeed, in Sweden, of course, it's very heavily socially enforced consensus.

02:48:48.000 If you even mention immigration, you're called a racist in Sweden.

02:48:50.000 And there's no discussion of it in the papers until very, very recently.

02:48:54.000 It's not on TV.

02:48:55.000 People just don't know.

02:48:56.000 So it has to spill out over the top before people start calling it.

02:49:00.000 Exactly.

02:49:00.000 Basically, everyone needs to have a daughter or a friend's daughter who was raped before anything will happen.

02:49:05.000 Jesus Christ.

02:49:06.000 Yeah.

02:49:07.000 Oh.

02:49:09.000 Well, crazy.

02:49:10.000 Sweden, yes.

02:49:11.000 And then here's the big picture: how do you take these people from these places where they're coming over here and doing these horrible things?

02:49:16.000 How do you educate them?

02:49:17.000 How do you change that?

02:49:18.000 How do you educate them?

02:49:20.000 But how does anybody ever, I mean, if you're going to engineer humanity, I don't care about engineering humanity.

02:49:24.000 I care about keeping my family safe and keeping my culture intact, and I want them deported. 0.70

02:49:28.000 Well, I care about those things as well, but I also think that as a civilization, we should look towards optimizing the rest of the civilization as much as possible.

02:49:38.000 You should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert to Christianity. 1.00

02:49:41.000 As Ann Coulter said.

02:49:45.000 Oh, God.

02:49:47.000 Do you have a better solution?

02:49:48.000 Yeah, that's suppression.

02:49:49.000 That's not going to work.

02:49:50.000 They're going to secretly build up.

02:49:52.000 They're going to make a dirty bomb.

02:49:54.000 It's worked.

02:49:56.000 I mean, Iraq has been neutralized as a threat to the world. 1.00

02:49:58.000 It's a fucking mission.

02:49:59.000 It's fucking fighting over each other.

02:50:01.000 It's great.

02:50:02.000 They're not coming for us anytime soon.

02:50:03.000 They're going to make the move.

02:50:04.000 Start civil wars everywhere.

02:50:05.000 They're not coming to us anytime soon.

02:50:07.000 Iraq has been neutralized as a threat. 0.91

02:50:08.000 That worked out pretty great from where I'm sitting.

02:50:10.000 Well, weren't they like a fake threat in the first place?

02:50:13.000 I mean, the only reason why they're not.

02:50:15.000 We armed him and supported him.

02:50:18.000 I, in general, think that America is...

02:50:29.000 It's the only country that will go and help other people out, you know, out of it.

02:50:31.000 Because we like fucking things up.

02:50:33.000 Yeah, it's very cool.

02:50:34.000 I mean, at the end of the day.

02:50:37.000 There's something to be said for that.

02:50:39.000 Look, every country in the world likes to rag on America, but where do they come when they need help?

02:50:43.000 They come to America because they want the boys, you know, they want your boys to make it rain. 0.98

02:50:47.000 Well, we have a massive amount of military momentum.

02:50:51.000 And that military momentum, like, it supports a lot of people in this country.

02:50:56.000 And it supports a lot of arms manufacturers, a lot of, there's a lot of industry involved in the military.

02:51:02.000 And so we spread out.

02:51:04.000 And the way to keep that military moving and the way to keep it operational is you have to have it all over the world.

02:51:10.000 So we're in every fucking corner of the world.

02:51:13.000 So I'm glad that America is, you know, one of the things I want people to remember in this election and remember just generally in life is America's fucking great.

02:51:21.000 America's wonderful.

02:51:23.000 You know, it's not perfect.

02:51:24.000 There are all sorts of things that everybody would like to change about it.

02:51:26.000 And the business of improving on America is what politics is for.

02:51:30.000 But America's pretty fucking great.

02:51:32.000 And speaking as somebody who is not an American, I am so happy, I'm so glad that America does have, you know, like a finger everywhere in the world.

02:51:41.000 It makes us safer.

02:51:42.000 It makes us more secure.

02:51:43.000 America's the only really powerful good guy in the world.

02:51:47.000 And thank God for you.

02:51:49.000 Thank God for you.

02:51:50.000 The state of the world, if it weren't for America, and, you know, it's a sort of brinkmanship like con, really. 0.69

02:51:56.000 You know, if all the bad guys wanted to act, America couldn't fight them all off at once.

02:52:00.000 So if they were smart, they would all just do what they want.

02:52:02.000 You know, like Russia would be like, yeah, okay, Muslims, you have Europe and we'll have America, you know? 0.97

02:52:05.000 Like that, and China, God knows, you know?

02:52:07.000 That could happen.

02:52:08.000 America couldn't take them all on at once.

02:52:10.000 But the risk of going to war with America is so great that the world doesn't, you know, is essentially peaceful, you know?

02:52:17.000 Thank God for you guys.

02:52:18.000 Thank God there's one superpower.

02:52:20.000 Yeah, there's one super.

02:52:23.000 And thank God that that superpower is America and not China, not Russia, not Iran. 0.81

02:52:28.000 And it could be.

02:52:30.000 And of course it could.

02:52:31.000 And it could be if the left succeeds in destroying this country.

02:52:34.000 But don't you think that the people on the left, they don't believe that that's the case?

02:52:39.000 Yeah, they don't believe America is a good thing.

02:52:41.000 They don't believe it's a good thing.

02:52:42.000 They don't believe it's a good thing.

02:52:43.000 They don't believe there are global because they're children with no understanding of geography, history, or anything else.

02:52:49.000 They don't appreciate how America keeps the world safe.

02:52:53.000 And you can disagree with individual military actions.

02:52:56.000 And many reasonable people, and I might even be persuaded into this, this position, many reasonable people think Afghanistan, Iraq, and all of the recent wars are a disaster. 0.53

02:53:04.000 Why go to Vietnam?

02:53:06.000 Perfectly reasonable, respectable points of view that I do respect.

02:53:09.000 And I enjoy discussing with people because I like finding out about these things that I don't know everything about, right?

02:53:14.000 Love to have the discussions.

02:53:15.000 Very important that America reflects on what it's done before so it acts better in the future.

02:53:20.000 But to say that, to suggest that the world isn't a better place for America's presence and preeminence is absurd.

02:53:27.000 Well, in this stage of the game, when you're looking at the alternative, being Putin, being China, you know, I mean, we do have some legitimate dictators that are out there in the world that kill their adversaries.

02:53:39.000 Of course.

02:53:40.000 I mean, Putin is the most gangster of gangsters when it comes to a public leader, like a guy who is, there's no shadow dealings.

02:53:50.000 He's killing people in broad daylight.

02:53:53.000 Yeah, he is.

02:53:53.000 Yeah.

02:53:54.000 And you think about the, as again, we're going back to what we said earlier about, you know, America's values.

02:53:59.000 And this was a, Margaret Thatcher used to say, this is a country not founded on nationality or whatever, but founded on principle.

02:54:05.000 Yeah.

02:54:06.000 And I think that's true.

02:54:08.000 And I think Americans are quite keenly aware of that.

02:54:11.000 That's why they care about the First and Second Amendments and some of the others.

02:54:14.000 And why they care about freedom of speech and liberty and prosperity and freedom and property rights, all this kind of stuff.

02:54:20.000 And obviously the capitalism that has made all of that possible.

02:54:25.000 This has created a country in which pretty much anyone can do pretty much anything.

02:54:29.000 Now, that's great.

02:54:32.000 You can even, if you are so inclined and so insane, get other people to pay to turn you into a woman if you want to. 0.87

02:54:40.000 That's how tolerant and permissive American society is.

02:54:44.000 Who's paying for that? 0.60

02:54:44.000 Now I might say that. 0.60

02:54:46.000 Insurance companies are paying for that?

02:54:47.000 Is that what's going on?

02:54:48.000 In America, I think.

02:54:49.000 If a girl identifies...

02:54:54.000 So if a girl identifies with a man, they can change her.

02:54:57.000 I know in...

02:55:00.000 I think it's a mixture of insurance companies and Medicare and Medicaid because they're all poor.

02:55:06.000 They're all poor?

02:55:07.000 Well, transsexuals, transgender folk, as the left wants us to call them, are vastly disproportionately socioeconomically underprivileged.

02:55:16.000 What about Bruce Jenner?

02:55:17.000 Rich as fuck.

02:55:18.000 Yeah, but he's an outlier.

02:55:21.000 Most transgender people are an outlier. 1.00

02:55:26.000 Yeah, he's not that cool.

02:55:29.000 Leather straps.

02:55:30.000 To be strictly accurate, all you can say is that transgender people are disproportionately poor and socioeconomically underprivileged.

02:55:37.000 They come from lower orders and tend not to have much in their bank account.

02:55:41.000 So, yeah, I think it's a mixture of insurance companies and the public health stuff you have here, which always is so confusing to me, these weird, complex things you have, just get rid of them.

02:55:52.000 You don't want this creeping national health service you seem to have here because it's crazy.

02:55:57.000 But yeah, certainly in the UK, it's completely taxpayer-funded.

02:56:01.000 And everywhere in Europe, Canada.

02:56:02.000 Transgender operations, completely taxpayer-funded.

02:56:05.000 Now, how do they determine whether or not someone's valuable or viable?

02:56:09.000 Doctors do that. 1.00

02:56:10.000 They just say, yeah, this guy.

02:56:11.000 But meanwhile, the doctors have a vested interest in performing more of the surgeries.

02:56:15.000 Yes, they do.

02:56:16.000 Yes, they do.

02:56:18.000 And of course, if somebody is really insistent, and this happens more than you would think, and it's not reported on very often, it's very difficult to find someone to go on the record about this stuff, but you'll find that very often when somebody wants to go in for the surgery and the doctor says no, they will start kicking up a fuss.

02:56:37.000 They might accuse the doctor of transphobia, ask for another doctor.

02:56:42.000 People basically, people who want this stuff are mad, so they act like mad people.

02:56:46.000 So they will go doctor shopping.

02:56:48.000 They will go around every doctor until somebody says yes.

02:56:51.000 They will beg, borrow, and steal for money to do crazy stuff to themselves.

02:56:57.000 They will insist and cry foul and bully and yell at doctors until they get what they want.

02:57:03.000 I mean, doctors are only humans.

02:57:05.000 Some of them must just want an easy life, you know?

02:57:07.000 Somebody comes in and says, I want to be a woman and they're clearly unhinged. 0.58

02:57:10.000 At some point of doctor number 17, somebody's going to be like, you know what, fuck it.

02:57:14.000 Whoa.

02:57:15.000 Well, I think you've managed to piss all the right people off today.

02:57:19.000 I'm glad.

02:57:20.000 I'm glad.

02:57:21.000 If you've been offended by this show.

02:57:22.000 Good.

02:57:23.000 I think you probably converted 17 or 18 people to voting for Trump.

02:57:28.000 That's all I ask.

02:57:29.000 That's all I ask.

02:57:29.000 20 people a day, and I will have done my bit.

02:57:31.000 I think you probably get it.

02:57:32.000 It's probably closing in on 20.

02:57:34.000 Splendid.

02:57:34.000 Good.

02:57:36.000 How many transgender people are mad at you right now?

02:57:38.000 Oh, no, they shouldn't be mad because I, you know.

02:57:43.000 Yeah, they should be mad.

02:57:44.000 They should probably be pissed.

02:57:45.000 They should be pissed, yeah.

02:57:46.000 But I think you had some very reasonable points about what an odd business the whole thing is.

02:57:54.000 America is in a weird place.

02:57:56.000 Well, it's also the ideology that we are being forced to accept.

02:58:00.000 And Kurt Metzger, who's on the podcast, a very smart guy and a funny dude, he grew up a Jehovah's Witness.

02:58:07.000 Is that what it was?

02:58:08.000 Or a Mooney?

02:58:09.000 Jehovah's Witness.

02:58:10.000 He grew up in a cult.

02:58:11.000 That's the door-to-door ones, right?

02:58:12.000 Yes.

02:58:13.000 A couple of them go door-to-door, but the Mormons do too, right? 0.51

02:58:18.000 I don't know.

02:58:19.000 Jehovah's Witnesses are the famous ones. 0.99

02:58:20.000 They have the Watchtower magazine.

02:58:21.000 I know who that is.

02:58:22.000 Anyway, point being, he equated it correctly to this sort of box thinking where you're not allowed to think outside that box.

02:58:30.000 It's just like religion. 0.78

02:58:32.000 He's like, I understand this kind of thinking.

02:58:34.000 I grew up with this kind of thinking.

02:58:35.000 Like, you can't make me think like this.

02:58:37.000 I know what you're doing.

02:58:38.000 Like, this is not rational or objective.

02:58:40.000 You're not talking about these things in a fair way.

02:58:44.000 You have a very biased, very predetermined pattern that you're forcing people into subscribing to.

02:58:50.000 And if they don't, then there's something wrong with them.

02:58:52.000 They're bigoted or they're assholes or they're transphobic.

02:58:56.000 Or worse, they try to pathologize you.

02:58:57.000 If it's me, they call you a self-loathing gay man.

02:59:00.000 Or a toxic male masculinity.

02:59:02.000 I don't hate myself.

02:59:03.000 I just don't agree with you.

02:59:05.000 Well, it's a weird thing when you can't agree or you can't disagree with someone.

02:59:09.000 Like, you're not allowed to debate it.

02:59:12.000 The discussion is closed.

02:59:13.000 And this is not as simple as, is hot hot?

02:59:17.000 Is cold cold?

02:59:18.000 Is metal hard?

02:59:19.000 No, these are things that complex.

02:59:20.000 These are complicated.

02:59:21.000 The etiology of homosexuality is complex and nuanced and may be different for different people.

02:59:26.000 The correct treatment pathway for transgenderism is complex and nuanced and may be different for different people.

02:59:32.000 The left simply doesn't make space for how complex life really is.

02:59:36.000 They demand this sort of conformity from everybody else.

02:59:39.000 You know, if you're gay, you can't be a Catholic. 0.99

02:59:41.000 You must hate yourself and one of you is in conflict with the other.

02:59:44.000 Yet they demand that we accept their crazy self-descriptions.

02:59:47.000 You know, I'm a genderqueer, non-binary, whatever.

02:59:50.000 The height of hypocrisy.

02:59:52.000 And at the same time, you know, they expect us to, if not believe, at least publicly go along with lies.

02:59:58.000 Lies that oversimplify the complex realities of life.

03:00:02.000 People are messy and imperfect.

03:00:04.000 We are all on a, not to get too, you know, whatever bugged reader.

03:00:10.000 I don't know.

03:00:10.000 I don't even have a vocabulary for mysticism.

03:00:12.000 You know, not to get too happy club.

03:00:14.000 Yeah, not to get too woo-woo about it.

03:00:14.000 Woo-woo.

03:00:16.000 But we are all on a journey through life, but growing, as you said at the beginning of the show, evolving, becoming different people every, you know, every six months or even sooner.

03:00:24.000 And, you know, life is complicated.

03:00:27.000 And one of the things that depresses me as somebody who enjoys reading and learning is the oversimplification of life by the left into okay people and bigots.

03:00:38.000 Yes.

03:00:39.000 And if you don't agree with specific and very often insane points of view, points of view that contradict medical science, points of view that contradict common sense, points of view that at a bare minimum are highly debatable, if you do not go along with this stuff, this increasingly mad stuff, you know, this stuff that is wandering off into crazy territory, you are in bigot land.

03:01:00.000 And the left has excluded so many of us for so long, gays, blacks, you know, plenty of blacks feel totally alienated by Black Lives Matter, I would imagine, most of them, in fact.

03:01:09.000 And these people are called, you know, Uncle Toms and all the rest of it.

03:01:11.000 And that happened on stage in one of my talks.

03:01:13.000 If you don't go along with all of this, there's something wrong with you.

03:01:16.000 You're pathologised, all the rest of it.

03:01:18.000 Well, the left has created, by doing this, the alt-right, me, Donald Trump, and a whole army of disaffected liberals, its own former supporters, who are tired of being told what they can think, say, do, how they can dress, how they can speak, who they can hang out with, you know, what belief systems they can have.

03:01:35.000 And it has alienated an entire young generation from left-wing politics.

03:01:40.000 And isn't it hilarious that it kind of spawned out of a dispute about video games?

03:01:46.000 Yes.

03:01:47.000 I mean, the meek have inherited the earth in a sense. 1.00

03:01:50.000 Who would have thought?

03:01:51.000 Who would have thought?

03:01:52.000 They stopped being meek.

03:01:53.000 Well, you know, it was.

03:01:54.000 The left fucked up when they tried to take the video games.

03:01:57.000 They fucked up.

03:01:58.000 Well, because they were involved.

03:01:59.000 They'd done it in comic books.

03:02:00.000 They'd done it in fantasy.

03:02:01.000 They've done it in sci-fi.

03:02:02.000 But they took on the smart people.

03:02:03.000 They took on the smart.

03:02:04.000 They took on the smart people.

03:02:04.000 Exactly.

03:02:05.000 The smart people are nice.

03:02:07.000 The comic book fans are nice.

03:02:08.000 But gamers are shit hot smart.

03:02:12.000 They are autistic as fuck, which is why I love them, because I am too.

03:02:15.000 They are smart, they are determined, and they like to win.

03:02:18.000 Because they're used to, I mean, they problem solve for a living, right?

03:02:22.000 They're looking at this problem like it was a, you know, like it was a, what are the victory conditions, you know?

03:02:27.000 And you don't need to kill everyone on that side.

03:02:29.000 You just need to get the flag from one point to another.

03:02:31.000 Or you just need to do this kind of stuff.

03:02:32.000 So gamers realize, I don't need the press to like us.

03:02:35.000 You know, and you can call us misogynistic harassers on the internet if you want to.

03:02:38.000 All we want is these feminist lunatics to get out of gaming and for people to leave the creators alone to do what they want and for, you know, for journalists to start reporting honestly about games and stop hating on their own on their own audiences or just fuck off. 1.00

03:02:53.000 Well, what's interesting too is how much bullshit they've exposed in that industry and in the people that are criticizing them who make video games that actually are guilty of doing the exact same thing that these people are criticizing.

03:03:06.000 They've exposed hypocrisy.

03:03:07.000 All over the world.

03:03:08.000 They've exposed collusion.

03:03:09.000 Doublethink, collusion.

03:03:11.000 That lit a match underneath a sort of overwhelming weight.

03:03:16.000 But it's about harassment.

03:03:18.000 It's about harassment. 0.75

03:03:19.000 It lit a match underneath so many different people in so many different worlds.

03:03:24.000 When people looked out and they realized that you can beat them.

03:03:27.000 You can beat them.

03:03:28.000 If you don't give a shit what the press says about you, and why would you, and Donald Trump has proven also that if you don't give a shit what the press says about you, you get stronger, not weaker.

03:03:36.000 If you don't care what polite society says about you, you can win.

03:03:41.000 You can beat them.

03:03:42.000 And this has never been done before, at least not done for 25 years.

03:03:45.000 And it's not about the right winning over the left, but it's about freedom and libertarianism and the right to do, say, think what you want, play what you want.

03:03:52.000 It won.

03:03:53.000 It beat the cultural scolds. 0.89

03:03:55.000 It beat the feminists. 1.00

03:03:56.000 It beat the offense brigade.

03:03:59.000 Gamergate won. 0.57

03:04:01.000 And it has ignited so many fires in so many places with so many unexpected consequences and wonderful snowball effects elsewhere in culture and politics and society.

03:04:14.000 It's remarkable.

03:04:16.000 And we all, I think, who have been emboldened to speak more plainly, encouraged to contradict people more often, reminded that it is not bigoted to have a different point of view and that you are entitled to your opinion no matter what it is and entitled to say it without fear of being called a monster or, you know, suffocated by safe space culture.

03:04:35.000 All of those people have video gamers to think, as you correctly suggest.

03:04:40.000 It sounds ridiculous, but it is true. 0.99

03:04:42.000 And it's been a remarkable thing.

03:04:44.000 I was just very happy that I was there at the beginning to watch it all unfold.

03:04:47.000 Milo, we live in strange and exciting times.

03:04:50.000 We do.

03:04:51.000 A lot of fun stuff is going on.

03:04:53.000 This is much better than the last one.

03:04:54.000 The headphones made it.

03:04:55.000 We didn't talk over each other.

03:04:56.000 I didn't.

03:04:56.000 I feel like this is a really good...

03:05:00.000 Yes.

03:05:01.000 It is one of my favorites.

03:05:02.000 I really enjoyed that.

03:05:02.000 Thank you, sir.

03:05:03.000 Thanks so much for having me, as always.

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The Joe Rogan Experience - July 07, 2016

Joe Rogan Experience #820 - Milo Yiannopoulos

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