The Joe Rogan Experience - January 25, 2017


Joe Rogan Experience #905 - Shane Smith

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In this episode of the podcast, I sit down with a good friend and former colleague of mine, Alex Blumberg, to talk about the early days of Vice and how he got into the news business, what it's like to be a reporter in the late 90s and early 2000s, and what it was like growing up in a small town in the south of England. We also talk about his time at Vice and some of the things he's been up to since leaving the job. It's a good one, and I hope you enjoy it as much as we did making it. Thank you so much to Alex for being on the podcast and for being a friend of mine. I really appreciate it and I know you will too. If you like it, tweet me and let me know what you think! Timestamps: 4:00 - How did Alex get into journalism? 5:30 - What's the worst job he's ever had 6:00 - What was it like being a reporter? 7:20 - What is it like working at Vice? 8:15 - What kind of work Alex has been doing 9:40 - What does it take to do the job 10:30 - Who's better than Brian Williams? 11:20 12:40 13:00 | What's your favorite part of the job? 15:30 | Is there something missing from a journalist? 16: Is there a broken part? 17:15 | What s missing? 18:00 // 17: Is he's built for the job ? 19:40 | What is the broken part of a broken? 21:00 / 22:10 | Is he built for me? 22:30 // Is he a broken guy? 25:00 + 22:00/23: What s his broken part ? 26:10 27:10 / 26:30 / 27:00 @ what s he's really built for this job? & 27: What do you like about him? 29:00? 32:30 Is he on antidepressants? 35:00 Is he missing a broken head? 36:00 & 33: Is this guy a broken 33:00 Can he be a broken person? & 35:50 / 35:30/36:00 Do you think he's a broken man?

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00:00:00.000 Let's do the countdown.
00:00:01.000 False countdown.
00:00:02.000 Four, three, two, one.
00:00:05.000 Yee-haw! 1.00
00:00:06.000 And we're live.
00:00:07.000 What's up, my brother?
00:00:08.000 That was quick.
00:00:08.000 How are you?
00:00:09.000 I know.
00:00:10.000 That's how it goes.
00:00:11.000 I like it that way.
00:00:11.000 Very efficient.
00:00:12.000 If you like it, just start.
00:00:13.000 Just start.
00:00:14.000 Boom.
00:00:15.000 Make it happen.
00:00:16.000 I like it.
00:00:17.000 So, things are getting weird.
00:00:18.000 Real quick.
00:00:19.000 Yeah?
00:00:20.000 What are you thinking about this orange fella? 0.95
00:00:25.000 I mean, I gotta say, for me, it's the best time ever to start a news service.
00:00:31.000 Oh, yeah.
00:00:31.000 And we started our daily show about a month before, and it just is like, wow.
00:00:37.000 And you're doing it on Vice, on your channel?
00:00:39.000 No, it's with HBO. It's a daily news show on HBO. It's like we were doing so well on weekly.
00:00:45.000 I don't know about shit. 0.99
00:00:46.000 Why don't I know about this? 0.99
00:00:47.000 We did our weekly show, and then that was doing well, so they gave us a daily show, and they were going to just put it on HBO Now and Go, but then it was doing so well, they put us on the air on TV, so it's every night.
00:00:57.000 This is the best possible compliment for your show.
00:01:00.000 Your show is like what I would expect someone who's never done a show before to do if you just gave them a fuckload of money.
00:01:08.000 And gave the hosts who have really never hosted anything before and gave them a fuckload of money.
00:01:14.000 The whole thing feels so...
00:01:16.000 The wrong word to use is unprofessional.
00:01:20.000 But it's unpolished.
00:01:21.000 Unpolished.
00:01:22.000 Unfake-ified.
00:01:23.000 There you go.
00:01:24.000 It's unpolished.
00:01:24.000 There's no one talking like this.
00:01:26.000 There's no Brian Williams.
00:01:28.000 We didn't know what we were doing.
00:01:30.000 And when we started, the criticisms came.
00:01:33.000 My favorite was from the New York Times.
00:01:36.000 It's just a bunch of hipsters in skinny jeans and tattoos high-fiving in war zones.
00:01:42.000 And I was like, if you aren't criticizing the news, aren't criticizing the truth or the facts or the stories, you're just criticizing that we have tattoos and we don't look like you, we won.
00:01:54.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:01:54.000 Fuck you. 1.00
00:01:54.000 Perfect. 1.00
00:01:55.000 So that was our first season.
00:01:57.000 Why wouldn't they celebrate that?
00:01:59.000 That's really interesting.
00:02:01.000 It's really interesting to see a bunch of young weirdos in war zones.
00:02:05.000 You know, there was one that you guys did, I don't remember the location it was, but one of your reporters was out there, and he had a flak jacket on, and he was surrounded by all these rebels in these bombed out buildings, and you could hear, boom!
00:02:19.000 You hear things going off in the distance, and he's kind of calmly explaining, okay, so what's going on is they're bombing the location very close to us, and they're over there, and he's pointing at it. 0.98
00:02:29.000 I'm like, holy fuck! 0.99
00:02:30.000 It's probably Ben Anderson. 1.00
00:02:31.000 That guy's a savage.
00:02:31.000 I think it was Ben Anderson.
00:02:32.000 We just did a thing on the resurgence of the Taliban in Afghanistan and how it's basically going back to the same borders that it was pre-invasion.
00:02:42.000 And he's under fire the whole time, and he's just like...
00:02:47.000 And he just goes down on one knee and he keeps talking, unfazed.
00:02:50.000 And as they're driving back, they're clearing out these IEDs and they're just pulling it with a rope and pulling out the IEDs with a rope.
00:02:58.000 And he's just standing there calmly.
00:03:00.000 Hoping they don't blow up?
00:03:01.000 No, no. 1.00
00:03:02.000 He's calmly talking to the camera as all this shit is happening. 0.99
00:03:06.000 And you're like, this guy is a fucking special dude. 0.99
00:03:09.000 Is he on antidepressants? 0.99
00:03:10.000 No.
00:03:11.000 I asked him about it one time, and he goes, you know, I have this thing where there's like a 30-second lag between like some guy like, you want to die?
00:03:19.000 And he's got a 30-second lag between like when he realizes that.
00:03:23.000 And so he comes across as just sort of like, you know, unflappable, but it's a genetic thing. 0.97
00:03:30.000 He's also fucking the best war journalist out there. 0.99
00:03:32.000 Did he fall on his head as a youth? 0.99
00:03:34.000 No.
00:03:34.000 Is there something missing?
00:03:36.000 Is there a broken part?
00:03:37.000 He's built for the job.
00:03:38.000 He's really built for the job.
00:03:39.000 Well, I'd like to see that in this day and age.
00:03:43.000 I mean, we're dealing with this weird time where the President of the United States points to CNN and says, I'm not talking to you.
00:03:49.000 You're fake news.
00:03:50.000 And then the meme comes, you know, with the sunglasses fall down, the thug life meme with him.
00:03:55.000 And you do get a lot of fake news, though. 0.99
00:03:59.000 You're getting a lot of these unsubstantiated reports about him with prostitutes and urine, and they're talking about it on the fucking news, which is unprecedented. 0.99
00:04:06.000 No one's ever done that before. 0.99
00:04:07.000 There's fake news on both sides.
00:04:08.000 That's the problem, and there's so much of it.
00:04:11.000 That it's almost impossible to wade through it all.
00:04:15.000 Yeah.
00:04:16.000 And, you know, for us, when, after the election, everybody came to me and said, what should we do?
00:04:22.000 And I said, we gotta just be logical... 0.98
00:04:25.000 Fact-based, middle-of-the-road, press record, non-political, non-partisan, none of this shit. 0.99
00:04:30.000 We just go out there and do it. 0.88
00:04:32.000 The problem is, you know, we view ourselves as centrist and sort of press record, all that stuff, but if the world takes us over a giant leap to the right with You know, fake news and all this crazy shit happening, then you're sitting there sort of going, well, all of a sudden we're put in this position. 0.77
00:04:49.000 Like, for me, I always bring it up and say, like, I'm an environmentalist because there's a boogeyman there. 0.99
00:04:53.000 Like, we all get fucked if the environment gets fucked. 0.96
00:04:56.000 And there's a boogeyman that we can sort of, you know, go against, and it's good for everybody, you know, whatever. 0.98
00:05:03.000 And the problem is, is I don't know when environmentalism became a left thing.
00:05:08.000 It should be for anyone who's sane, anyone who's smart. 0.99
00:05:11.000 And, you know, I spend time, like, going back to war, like, when you spend a lot of time in war zones, the one thing when you talk to people in those war zones is war is fucked. 0.99
00:05:21.000 It's not fun, it's not heroic, it's not like a manly shot in the, you know, it's like, you know, catheter bags and you're fucked up and, you know, you're on PTSD. Half your head's missing. 0.98
00:05:30.000 Half your head's missing, your ass is missing, your balls are missing. 1.00
00:05:33.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:05:33.000 And so when you go to these things, you never want to go back kind of thing. 1.00
00:05:37.000 You know, when you talk about the environment, when you talk to the scientists, they're all like, well, of course it's a global scientific consensus.
00:05:45.000 Of course it is.
00:05:46.000 And then I did this piece this year on season five.
00:05:49.000 It's going to be the first piece. 0.97
00:05:50.000 And I'm like, I literally don't understand what the fuck is happening here. 0.99
00:05:54.000 Because if you talk to every scientist now, they're terrible. 0.98
00:05:58.000 At getting information, scientists. 0.99
00:05:59.000 But they're like, well, that's not my fucking job. 0.99
00:06:01.000 My job is to do science. 1.00
00:06:02.000 I don't fucking know. 0.98
00:06:03.000 Right. 0.96
00:06:03.000 So, but, you know, there's this global scientific consensus of, you know, global warming, 97%, which never happens in any science, right? 0.96
00:06:10.000 Ever.
00:06:11.000 But there's all this doubt.
00:06:16.000 Not all over the world, but a lot in America still.
00:06:18.000 So we looked at it. 0.99
00:06:19.000 We said, what the fuck is happening here? 0.98
00:06:22.000 And there's now three AGs, three attorneys general, with 20 other in support who've come out for this lawsuit now against Exxon. 0.99
00:06:33.000 CEO of Exxon is now our Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson.
00:06:37.000 And so what happened was they knew in the 70s and 80s that fossil fuel...
00:06:47.000 You know burning fossil fuels carbon in the air carbon emission caused global warming and was a factor for global warming and Then they realized this is gonna be bad for business so in the 80s and 90s and now they spend billions of dollars on You know discrediting the science.
00:07:04.000 That's the whole thing.
00:07:04.000 Well, there's no consensus.
00:07:05.000 There's no consensus That's the that's the thing they spend billions of dollars to do it.
00:07:10.000 There is a consensus There's a total merchants of doubt I did.
00:07:14.000 Amazing.
00:07:15.000 Amazing.
00:07:15.000 Yeah.
00:07:15.000 And it highlights that.
00:07:17.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:07:17.000 And a lot of people, it's the same people.
00:07:19.000 What that highlights is it's the exact same scientists and the exact same people and groups.
00:07:25.000 More like spokespeople.
00:07:27.000 Spokespeople.
00:07:28.000 That went after cigarettes.
00:07:29.000 They did cigarettes.
00:07:30.000 Well, in some cases, the same scientists.
00:07:32.000 Yeah.
00:07:33.000 They said, oh, well, it's the exact same thing.
00:07:35.000 It's question the science.
00:07:36.000 It's, you know, well, there's not, we can't really figure out, smoking lung cancer could be anything.
00:07:41.000 And do it loudly and concisely with quick sentences where they're very well prepared.
00:07:46.000 And they did the exact same thing with global warming. 0.53
00:07:48.000 And that's why when you come here and you talk to people and say, you know, look, we have to do this.
00:07:53.000 They're just like, no, science isn't settled. 1.00
00:07:56.000 Fuck you. 1.00
00:07:56.000 And you're like, it's like back in the day when your mouth would open and a cigarette would come out and say, smoking is good for you. 1.00
00:08:02.000 It's like an oil can comes out.
00:08:04.000 You're like, no, the science isn't settled yet.
00:08:06.000 Well, that whole argument that the science isn't settled yet, like you said, it's being perpetrated by the people that can profit on the science not being settled yet.
00:08:14.000 Correct.
00:08:14.000 And that gets really scary because a lot of other people...
00:08:16.000 You're being duped. 0.99
00:08:16.000 You're being fucking duped. 0.99
00:08:18.000 And what gets scary is it makes it real convenient for right-wing people who just classically think and vote and behave right-wing to just adopt that thinking and then repeat and pair those words. 0.99
00:08:29.000 It's not a fucking left thing. 0.65
00:08:31.000 It's an everybody who likes to go outside thing. 0.97
00:08:34.000 It's like everybody likes to hunt thing.
00:08:35.000 Everyone likes to swim thing.
00:08:37.000 Everyone likes to surf thing. 1.00
00:08:38.000 Everyone likes to drink fucking water. 0.99
00:08:40.000 I mean, did you see this? 0.99
00:08:42.000 There was a new report that came out today about the infrastructure in terms of the water supply, the pipes that we have, that the water's being carried with, that they're all rotting out in a place in this country.
00:08:52.000 It'll cost a trillion dollars.
00:08:54.000 But they're saying that Flint, what happened in Flint, could happen in a lot of places.
00:08:58.000 Yeah, it's just old infrastructure.
00:09:00.000 It needs to be replaced.
00:09:02.000 You know, and here it is.
00:09:03.000 Nation of Flint.
00:09:04.000 America's 1.2 million miles of deteriorating lead pipes and they'll cost one trillion dollars to fix.
00:09:10.000 One thing that I like about Trump is that he has been saying that he wants to address the infrastructure and he wants to put people to work fixing all the problems that exist and creating jobs by fixing all these types of problems.
00:09:21.000 Which is another famous president said the same thing.
00:09:23.000 Which one?
00:09:24.000 FDR. Oh, yeah.
00:09:25.000 Yeah.
00:09:26.000 Well, he's a good guy, right?
00:09:27.000 Wasn't he a good one?
00:09:28.000 It's hard to say who's a good one. 0.87
00:09:29.000 We only like the ones that get shot.
00:09:31.000 I have a whole bit about that.
00:09:32.000 We like Kennedy and we like Lincoln.
00:09:35.000 Well, it's interesting, you know, because the president, if you really look at it, traditionally, you know, their big power is right now is when you do appointees or when you get a judge through or when you do an appointee, you put your cabinet together.
00:09:51.000 And then the cabinet has power and the president goes on to opening, you know, bridges and, you know, flying around the world and shaking hands and kissing babies.
00:10:00.000 And I think that that's what, you know, what we said is we're not going to, as a news agency, look at the boombastic or the, you know, the titillating headlines or the, oh, my God, he said that.
00:10:12.000 We're going to look after policy.
00:10:14.000 We're going to look at what is the EPA's With a guy who runs the EPA who tried to sue the EPA and shut it down.
00:10:22.000 What does the Department of Energy look like with Rick Perry, who, when he ran for president, said, I would shut down the Department of Energy.
00:10:29.000 What does that look with him actually running it?
00:10:32.000 Or Sessions, who actually is now the Attorney General, who sued the government many times against climate change reform.
00:10:40.000 Or Rex Tillerson, you know, who ran the largest fossil fuel company in the world, now being Secretary of State.
00:10:46.000 So we're looking more at just policy, what policy, you know, changes because of this cabinet, etc., etc.
00:10:52.000 Yeah, it's really weird. 0.91
00:10:54.000 It's like everybody thought this was going to be this sort of get rid of political correctness, stop all these whiny, crybaby liberals.
00:11:04.000 And then once you got into office, a lot of the same people that I talked to that were kind of in support of them...
00:11:10.000 Just kind of stepped back and went, whoa, like already?
00:11:13.000 Like right away?
00:11:14.000 Keystone Pipeline, the Dakota Access, immediately, abortion. 0.74
00:11:19.000 I mean, they're cutting insurance paying of abortion.
00:11:24.000 How would you say that?
00:11:27.000 Funding of abortion.
00:11:28.000 It's like you can't get an abortion with insurance anymore.
00:11:31.000 Have they passed that?
00:11:33.000 Has that been passed?
00:11:35.000 Which is, you know, obviously for some people that don't like abortions, it's a very touchy subject, which ironically are the same people who love war.
00:11:42.000 It's very strange.
00:11:44.000 There you go.
00:11:44.000 You don't want you killing babies.
00:11:46.000 You don't mind killing people once they're full grown. 1.00
00:11:47.000 They can go fuck themselves. 1.00
00:11:48.000 That's it. 1.00
00:11:49.000 Especially if they live in some other spot. 0.99
00:11:51.000 And he's really fucking building a wall. 0.99
00:11:53.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:11:54.000 Like it wasn't just rhetoric.
00:11:56.000 Yeah, I mean, he's a guy who got elected on a populist, you know, platform, so he's going to do some of those things.
00:12:04.000 Yeah.
00:12:05.000 It's going to be interesting, man.
00:12:06.000 I mean, I think two things about it.
00:12:09.000 I don't really think so much about Trump as much as two things.
00:12:13.000 I think, A, it shows a sort of generational divide.
00:12:18.000 You know, it's not just Trump, because you saw it in Brexit, you're seeing it in France, you saw it in Italy, you're seeing it in many countries around the world, where you have the largest cohort, the largest demographic now is Gen Y. But the socio-economic and political power is mostly still controlled by the boomers. 0.93
00:12:38.000 So you have this sort of generational, you know, divide.
00:12:42.000 And what happened in America was, you know, the Gen Y was more fractured. 0.56
00:12:49.000 You know, we talked a little bit about this.
00:12:51.000 It fractured because of Bernie Sanders and Hillary and people just didn't like Hillary. 0.52
00:12:55.000 And so, and by the way, she's, you know, an older generation as well. 0.99
00:12:59.000 And then Trump was the sort of baby boomers, like, living in the gated community, saying, we don't want all that bad shit to happen. 0.99
00:13:04.000 I understand why people don't want to believe in environmental change, because it's scary and it's bad, and it's like, fuck, I don't want to believe in that, so I'm not going to believe in that. 0.99
00:13:10.000 Right. 0.92
00:13:10.000 And so I think, but you have this generational divide, and now what you have... 0.92
00:13:15.000 It's just sort of this backlash of kids going, like in Brexit, they're like, what the fuck? 1.00
00:13:19.000 You guys vote to fucking leave Europe and now I'm fucked. 1.00
00:13:22.000 You know, hold on a second. 1.00
00:13:23.000 And now I think you're going to get that.
00:13:25.000 So I think it's sort of a global thing.
00:13:28.000 And I think it's also young people are getting upset. 0.99
00:13:30.000 And also they're learning, you should have fucking voted. 0.99
00:13:33.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:13:34.000 I've talked to quite a few people that were pissed off that didn't vote.
00:13:37.000 Yeah.
00:13:37.000 I'm like, well, that's kind of weird.
00:13:39.000 And they were like, well, California's going to Hillary anyway. 0.99
00:13:41.000 Yeah.
00:13:42.000 Yeah.
00:13:43.000 Okay.
00:13:44.000 Sort of.
00:13:45.000 Yeah.
00:13:45.000 Well, that's the problem.
00:13:47.000 Like, you know, California legalized recreational marijuana and...
00:13:53.000 Sessions.
00:13:53.000 Yeah.
00:13:54.000 Yeah, he doesn't want it.
00:13:56.000 He literally is on record saying that good people don't smoke marijuana.
00:14:00.000 What about drink scotch?
00:14:02.000 Do good people drink scotch?
00:14:03.000 What about cigars?
00:14:04.000 Do good people smoke cigars, Jeff?
00:14:05.000 How does that work?
00:14:06.000 And I think that that's, you know, if you look at it, I think young people know what side of history they want to be on.
00:14:13.000 We're all like, we all know it's going to be legalized.
00:14:15.000 We all know it's going to be there.
00:14:16.000 It's going to be like, say, three years, maybe five years. 0.99
00:14:19.000 And then all this shit, all those people in jail don't have to be in jail. 0.99
00:14:21.000 All this money, all this tax money can go and look at what happened in Colorado. 1.00
00:14:25.000 All the cartels, all this stuff.
00:14:27.000 It's just like, it's going to happen. 1.00
00:14:29.000 So anybody who comes along and says, nope, fuck that. 1.00
00:14:31.000 You're like, well, you're on the wrong side of history, brother. 1.00
00:14:33.000 Well, he's left it up.
00:14:35.000 What Trump has said is that he's going to leave it up to the states.
00:14:38.000 So if he leaves it up to the states, it's just going to go across the country.
00:14:40.000 And then what are they going to do federally?
00:14:42.000 Once it becomes state legal everywhere, and then the federal government still says it's illegal, what do they do then?
00:14:47.000 I mean, do they change then?
00:14:48.000 Well, they have to change a lot because of the money.
00:14:50.000 They have to change a lot because in Colorado, it's legal, but you can't bank it. 1.00
00:14:55.000 Yeah, it's a fucking mess. 0.99
00:14:57.000 It's a mess. 1.00
00:14:57.000 They have armored cars and guys with guns. 1.00
00:14:59.000 I know a lot of guys who are former SEALs and guys who work for Blackwater, and now they're fucking holding guns at weed shops because they got a million dollars in cash in the back. 0.71
00:15:09.000 Which is bad enough with one state, but when it's 20 states... 0.98
00:15:12.000 Not only that, how many fucking places in that state? 0.99
00:15:16.000 Think about one state. 0.99
00:15:16.000 How many mercs do you have running around those places? 0.99
00:15:19.000 Grow houses and the banking and it all has to be cash business. 0.99
00:15:21.000 You have to grow your own shit in Colorado, too. 0.99
00:15:23.000 That's the other thing. 1.00
00:15:24.000 You're not buying it from somebody.
00:15:25.000 You have to grow it if you're selling it.
00:15:28.000 They're creating a dangerous situation and people have already been robbed.
00:15:32.000 Correct.
00:15:33.000 And, you know, the whole thing, to me, it was really disappointing when the DEA didn't change the classification from Schedule 1 in August.
00:15:41.000 Like, they had the opportunity.
00:15:43.000 All the evidence was there. 0.99
00:15:44.000 They know the evidence is there, and they fucking lied about it. 0.99
00:15:46.000 And this is under Obama. 0.98
00:15:49.000 Also, the problem with that is, because it's Schedule 1, you can't do research on cancer, all of the CBD stuff that's coming out now.
00:15:58.000 Where it's not psychoactive, which is so important.
00:16:01.000 For people who have issues like arthritis, and I had Joe Valtellini here, who's a former kickboxing champion.
00:16:07.000 He's a commentator now for Glory.
00:16:09.000 He told me that he was locked in a room after one of his concussions from his last fight.
00:16:13.000 Locked in a room in the dark for three weeks because you couldn't even see the light on the power button on a cell phone.
00:16:20.000 To get a migraine.
00:16:21.000 To charge a cell phone.
00:16:22.000 Like the little red light, that would give him a headache.
00:16:25.000 And so CBD oil cured him of that.
00:16:27.000 And it's currently illegal.
00:16:29.000 And that's the thing is, again, what side of history do you be on?
00:16:32.000 Like, we know all of this stuff.
00:16:34.000 We know where it's going. 0.98
00:16:35.000 Why the fuck are we slowing down now? 0.99
00:16:38.000 Well, it's a bunch of old people. 1.00
00:16:40.000 That's really what it is.
00:16:42.000 It's a bunch of old people who don't get high. 1.00
00:16:44.000 And they're scared of it. 0.99
00:16:45.000 And instead of looking at it pragmatically, objectively, looking at the science, they're looking at it like some goddamn 1950s episode of Dragnet. 0.96
00:16:54.000 You know, Joe Friday's coming in. 1.00
00:16:56.000 Pot is for losers. 0.99
00:16:57.000 It's frustrating. 1.00
00:16:58.000 Are you a loser, Mickey? 0.99
00:16:59.000 You know, it's like, that's really what's going on. 1.00
00:17:02.000 It's very strange.
00:17:03.000 Yeah.
00:17:04.000 Yeah, we did this story.
00:17:06.000 Do you know the kings of cannabis?
00:17:07.000 Do you know these guys?
00:17:08.000 They're like the seed hunters.
00:17:09.000 They fly around the world and they find the best seed strains.
00:17:14.000 And then they go back to Holland and they make... 1.00
00:17:17.000 They won the Cannabis Cup like six, eight years in a row.
00:17:19.000 They did White Widow. 0.94
00:17:20.000 Let me tell you something about the Cannabis Cup real quick. 0.99
00:17:22.000 I was one of the fucking judges. 0.99
00:17:24.000 Oh, there you go. 1.00
00:17:25.000 Well, you know these guys are two Dutch guys.
00:17:27.000 I don't know these guys because I only did it once and I'll never do it again.
00:17:29.000 It's a farce.
00:17:30.000 Okay, this is what they give you.
00:17:31.000 They give you, you know how those old ladies that take pills? 1.00
00:17:34.000 Like if you're, like someone else take your arthritis medication and you have like seven days and Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, those little things.
00:17:40.000 They give you one of those.
00:17:41.000 Each one of those things has weed. 1.00
00:17:43.000 And you just start fucking smoking. 1.00
00:17:45.000 You're off to the races. 1.00
00:17:47.000 You have no idea!
00:17:48.000 After the first couple of hits, you're on Pluto.
00:17:50.000 This one's great. 0.99
00:17:51.000 And you're just fucking hammering it. 0.99
00:17:53.000 And then everybody's talking in this ridiculous jargon. 0.99
00:17:56.000 They're like, oh, this is really tasty. 1.00
00:17:58.000 They're fucking super annoying and stinky. 0.99
00:18:01.000 And they're talking about the cannabis community. 1.00
00:18:03.000 I had this weird conversation with this one dude.
00:18:05.000 Who won when you judged? 0.99
00:18:07.000 Who the fuck knows? 0.99
00:18:07.000 I don't even know who I voted for. 0.99
00:18:09.000 I have no idea.
00:18:10.000 I was so high afterwards I was having out-of-body experiences because people were giving me cookies and candies.
00:18:16.000 It was one of, if not the highest, one of the highest I've ever been in my life.
00:18:21.000 Maybe the highest.
00:18:22.000 Because we were at this place on Melrose.
00:18:24.000 It was a head shop, and in the back they had this pot thing. 0.99
00:18:28.000 And it was just filled with fucking people, and there's no ventilation, just filled with pot smoke. 0.99
00:18:33.000 And this is in Amsterdam? 1.00
00:18:35.000 This was in Los Angeles.
00:18:36.000 Oh, Los Angeles.
00:18:37.000 Yeah, they did it in LA. Oh, shit. 1.00
00:18:38.000 And they're passing around bongs and pipes and cookies and cakes, and they had security there to make sure no one didn't come, and they had it all blocked off. 1.00
00:18:46.000 They did a smart job, like the way they handled it, but as far as actually judging what's the best pot, get the fuck out of here. 0.82
00:18:54.000 No one has any idea. 0.83
00:18:55.000 It's like giving you seven glasses of whiskey and then telling you to drink some wine.
00:19:00.000 What wine do you like, Shane?
00:19:01.000 You're like...
00:19:03.000 That's generally how it is.
00:19:05.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:19:06.000 That's how most of our podcasts are.
00:19:08.000 I judged it, and I don't remember what I judged.
00:19:11.000 I don't remember what the pot was like.
00:19:12.000 I was a poor judge, and everybody else is a poor judge, too.
00:19:15.000 But I'm being honest about it.
00:19:16.000 It's a joke.
00:19:17.000 There you go.
00:19:18.000 If you wanted to have a real cannabis cup, you would give someone a strain for a week.
00:19:24.000 And then give them another strain for a week.
00:19:26.000 And make them keep a journal.
00:19:28.000 And then make them send in that journal.
00:19:30.000 Like, this is my experience on this.
00:19:31.000 This is how much I smoked.
00:19:32.000 This is what it felt like.
00:19:33.000 Body high.
00:19:34.000 You know, head high. 0.99
00:19:35.000 Or if it's too fucking strong. 1.00
00:19:37.000 Some of that shit is like acid. 1.00
00:19:39.000 You like that? 1.00
00:19:40.000 That's my stuff.
00:19:41.000 It's getting to a strange place now, for sure.
00:19:44.000 Because what's interesting to me is when people who don't smoke it, smoke it.
00:19:48.000 Then I get to see.
00:19:48.000 Because our tolerance is so high.
00:19:52.000 I smoke it almost every day.
00:19:53.000 At least five days a week, I probably smoke weed.
00:19:56.000 So when I see people that tried for the first time, and you see that terrified look in their eye, they're confronted with their own mortality, and they feel the earth spinning, and they're like, Jesus!
00:20:05.000 I've got a question for you, Mr. Smoker.
00:20:08.000 Okay.
00:20:09.000 Because my problem is I'm an ex-smoker, not an ex-weed smoker.
00:20:12.000 I'm a current weed smoker.
00:20:13.000 I'm an ex-smoker smoker.
00:20:14.000 Right.
00:20:15.000 And so smoking always makes me want to smoke cigarettes, A. B, so I do like, you know, they have all the different things now.
00:20:23.000 The one I like is this high CBD sort of, but it gets you high still, the honey.
00:20:31.000 Oh, yeah. 0.97
00:20:33.000 And it's fucking awesome. 0.90
00:20:35.000 Whatever you need, I can get. 0.99
00:20:37.000 Okay, but the thing is, I got a question because I was thinking about this the other day, because I'm like reading all about, you know, how it stops cancer, and this is great for this, and great for that, and all this other stuff, so I'm like, fuck yeah. 0.96
00:20:48.000 But isn't smoking it still bad for you? 0.91
00:20:51.000 No, apparently not.
00:20:53.000 Who's saying that though?
00:20:54.000 Scientists.
00:20:55.000 It actually acts as an expectorant on your lungs.
00:20:57.000 It's actually good for people that have emphysema.
00:21:00.000 It's actually good for people that have issues with their lungs, which is really strange.
00:21:04.000 Asthma, really good for asthma.
00:21:06.000 If you're smoking weed.
00:21:07.000 Yeah, crazy.
00:21:08.000 Doesn't seem to make sense.
00:21:10.000 No.
00:21:10.000 Much better, though, because smoking is still kind of harsh, but the effect of the cannabis smoke...
00:21:16.000 Cannabis smoke is not toxic the same way cigarette smoke is.
00:21:19.000 And one of the reasons why cigarette smoke is toxic is not just the tobacco, which is toxic. 0.98
00:21:25.000 599 fucking chemicals, or whatever the hell it is now. 0.98
00:21:28.000 Marijuana users have good lungs for transplanting. 1.00
00:21:33.000 So if you get high, walk off a building.
00:21:36.000 Whoops, man.
00:21:37.000 Yeah, your lungs are good.
00:21:38.000 But you don't have to smoke it.
00:21:40.000 Here's what I'm down with. 0.99
00:21:42.000 These fucking things that I got charging right here. 0.99
00:21:45.000 These vape pens. 1.00
00:21:46.000 Some of them suck. 1.00
00:21:47.000 Because some of them, the ones that look like an e-cigarette, those suck. 1.00
00:21:52.000 They don't have enough juice. 0.92
00:21:53.000 They're not powerful enough.
00:21:55.000 You want one that has a really good pull.
00:22:03.000 There we go.
00:22:04.000 That's got some...
00:22:05.000 Because these...
00:22:08.000 These get you high.
00:22:09.000 Right.
00:22:10.000 Like getting high, getting high.
00:22:11.000 Right.
00:22:11.000 Whereas the other ones, you gotta keep hitting them over and over and over and over again to get high.
00:22:15.000 Right. 1.00
00:22:15.000 These motherfuckers get hot because that battery's fat. 1.00
00:22:18.000 See how fat that battery is? 1.00
00:22:20.000 Yeah.
00:22:20.000 It's much fatter.
00:22:20.000 The other ones, when you get the ones that are skinny like this, the other problem with the ones that are skinny is you get a lot of duds.
00:22:26.000 Right.
00:22:26.000 Like they're making a lot of them in China.
00:22:28.000 Sorry, China. 1.00
00:22:29.000 But a lot of them suck, man. 0.99
00:22:31.000 Like my friend Gino, who sells me everything, he gave me three, no, four pens and three of them were duds. 0.99
00:22:38.000 Really? 0.99
00:22:39.000 Three out of fucking four were duds. 0.99
00:22:41.000 They just didn't work. 1.00
00:22:42.000 If it was all legal, then...
00:22:44.000 Exactly.
00:22:44.000 Quality control.
00:22:45.000 Quality control.
00:22:46.000 Yeah.
00:22:46.000 Well, they were packaged.
00:22:48.000 See, the whole deal is that they're packaged already, and when you're getting these ones that are pre-packaged, you throw them away when they're done.
00:22:54.000 It's very wasteful.
00:22:55.000 So this, you just get this little cartridge, you slide the cartridge into this big, fat battery thing, and blam!
00:23:01.000 You're there.
00:23:01.000 Off to the races!
00:23:03.000 Want some?
00:23:04.000 No.
00:23:04.000 Scared?
00:23:05.000 Don't be scared.
00:23:07.000 I'm being a good boy.
00:23:08.000 It's a good time, man.
00:23:09.000 It's a good time for that.
00:23:10.000 And it's a good time for people to do...
00:23:12.000 Well, the problem is the research is still...
00:23:14.000 Federal research is still impossible.
00:23:16.000 Doing real hardcore research on large-scale research nationwide.
00:23:21.000 And we should be going...
00:23:22.000 Anything that shows some promise re-cancer, we should be going whole hog after. 0.92
00:23:28.000 And the fact that we're not is just ridiculous.
00:23:30.000 I'm worried that Trump has such incredible connections to money, and that all the good parts that's going to come from that, like his no-nonsense approach to infrastructure, wanting to rebuild a lot of things, put a lot of people to work because of that, and a lot of people benefit from that.
00:23:46.000 What scares me is that money connection with the pharmaceutical companies who have just gone way, way out of their way to just try to stifle marijuana research at every possible turn and legalization at every possible turn.
00:24:02.000 It's just criminal.
00:24:04.000 What they do is awful.
00:24:05.000 Because when you make something illegal, it's not just making something illegal, which is why I had to drill this into the head of a friend of mine who is pro-Hillary, and he's asking me why I'm upset with her. 0.95
00:24:16.000 And I said, look, dude, there's a fucking email that was leaked, the WikiLeaks email, that said she's against marijuana in every sense of the word. 0.74
00:24:23.000 She was making a promise. 0.98
00:24:26.000 To some organization, I don't remember who it was, but they were asking her, what is her stance on marijuana?
00:24:31.000 She's against it in every sense of the word.
00:24:33.000 How could you be?
00:24:34.000 That's like saying I'm against peanut butter in every sense of the word. 0.98
00:24:37.000 You know, like, what are you, a monster?
00:24:39.000 You want people to go to jail for peanut butter? 0.95
00:24:41.000 You know?
00:24:42.000 Like, the problem is, it's not just that you don't like it, which I'm fine with.
00:24:46.000 The problem is, you can make people get locked in a cage.
00:24:50.000 That's a crime.
00:24:51.000 It's a crime.
00:24:52.000 We know this is innocuous.
00:24:54.000 Like, I just hit We're having a conversation.
00:24:56.000 There's no problems.
00:24:57.000 This is not some devil weed.
00:24:59.000 It's not going to ruin lives.
00:25:00.000 I pay taxes.
00:25:01.000 I have a family.
00:25:02.000 Everything's fine.
00:25:03.000 Wake up when the alarm goes off. 1.00
00:25:05.000 We're being fed bullshit. 1.00
00:25:06.000 And when someone who's in the position of running for president, like Hillary, Says something crazy like that. 1.00
00:25:12.000 She's against marijuana legalization in every sense of the word.
00:25:15.000 That means people are going to go to jail.
00:25:18.000 That means people are going to get shot.
00:25:20.000 That means more Mexican drug gangs are going to ship more illegal product over here. 0.82
00:25:25.000 No research is being done.
00:25:26.000 No research is being done.
00:25:28.000 People are going to die from cancer that don't have to die.
00:25:30.000 People are going to get diseases they don't have to get.
00:25:33.000 But this is my problem because, again, it's what side of history do you want to be on? 0.99
00:25:37.000 And I think that most people who grew up the way we did or sane people are just saying, what the fuck? 0.99
00:25:42.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:25:42.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 1.00
00:25:44.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:25:44.000 Come on. 1.00
00:25:46.000 And as you said, there's five different positive aspects for it.
00:25:50.000 And by the way, we all know where it's going.
00:25:51.000 So why? 0.99
00:25:52.000 If it doesn't go in that direction, we're going to have a fucking revolution. 0.99
00:25:56.000 And they need to understand that what you saw with that women's march, the day after Trump was inaugurated, when you see millions of people, there was a million people in LA, they expected 80,000. 0.99
00:26:06.000 970,000 fucking people showed up. 0.99
00:26:08.000 Whitney Cummings sent me some pictures when she was there, and I was like, holy shit! 1.00
00:26:13.000 This is crazy! 0.97
00:26:15.000 That kind of movement is not just connected to women's rights, and it certainly is at that day, but it's a mindset.
00:26:22.000 It's a mindset of protesting and fighting what they think is wrong.
00:26:27.000 And it's going to spread across the board. 0.97
00:26:29.000 So we're in a weird fucking bipolar situation in this country. 0.98
00:26:32.000 We're in a bipolar situation. 0.99
00:26:34.000 We're a bipolar country in a lot of ways. 1.00
00:26:36.000 There's a lot of, you fucking liberal crowd babies, you bunch of libtards. 1.00
00:26:40.000 Well, this is the whole thing, is that You have... 1.00
00:26:43.000 I did a special on dysfunction.
00:26:47.000 That's a picture from Whitney Cummings' Instagram.
00:26:49.000 Jesus, that's a lot of people.
00:26:51.000 Well, actually, it's good because I think Americans had forgotten how to sort of protest.
00:26:56.000 Americans had forgotten that this is part of democracy and all this stuff.
00:27:00.000 We've been sort of...
00:27:03.000 Talk radioing our anger in quiet.
00:27:06.000 I think it's good to go out and protest if you believe in it, A. B, if you sort of look at what's happening politically.
00:27:16.000 I did a thing on House Divided.
00:27:19.000 What's interesting is if you ever do anything on Israel, then the Palestinian, pro-Palestinian people go after you.
00:27:24.000 If you ever do anything on Palestine, the Israeli people go after you.
00:27:27.000 You can never do anything right.
00:27:28.000 It's the same thing when you do politics here.
00:27:32.000 We thought we were incredibly even-handed.
00:27:35.000 We gave Republicans the same amount of time as the Democrats.
00:27:38.000 The Democrats were like, you made the Republicans look too good.
00:27:42.000 The thing is, when you look at it, you say, You know, it's so broken that it used to be just like, you know, pendulum swings, pendulum swings.
00:27:51.000 But now what's going to happen is that Trump gets in.
00:27:54.000 He's going to undo a lot of the last eight years.
00:27:58.000 Then the Dems, when it swings to them, will undo what he undid.
00:28:01.000 So it's not doing nothing.
00:28:03.000 Now it's going backwards. 0.99
00:28:05.000 And so you're sitting there saying there's a lot of shit that we've got to solve. 0.99
00:28:10.000 And we can't solve it if we just keep going backwards politically. 0.99
00:28:14.000 And I think that's why there's so much frustration, is because you're sitting there going, let's unwind what they did for the past eight years, and then someone else will get in and unwind what we unwound.
00:28:23.000 We have a real problem as human beings in getting into that team mentality.
00:28:28.000 There's so many of us on the left that have so many...
00:28:33.000 We agree with so many things that the right stands for.
00:28:36.000 And there's so many on the right that agree with so many on the left. 0.92
00:28:39.000 I mean, I'm more left than I am right, but I'm pretty fucking right. 0.99
00:28:43.000 I'm right on a lot of shit, like gun control. 0.99
00:28:46.000 You're a centrist, which is hopefully what most people should be, that they can see the logic in both sides. 0.99
00:28:52.000 Yeah.
00:28:53.000 The problem is when you get too far to the left or too far to the right, it's crazy.
00:28:56.000 Exactly.
00:28:57.000 And what's worrisome is you have no farther to look than France.
00:29:01.000 Uh-huh.
00:29:01.000 France elect a socialist, you know, PM, and then all of a sudden the Front National, who were a joke, become the leaders in the next election.
00:29:11.000 Yeah.
00:29:11.000 Front National are like, you know, super right-wing.
00:29:14.000 Right, right.
00:29:15.000 And so you sit there and say, okay, well, everyone's moving far and far... 0.98
00:29:19.000 It's best when we're all just fucking working together. 0.79
00:29:22.000 The economy's doing well, we're all getting it done, and we're sitting in the sort of logical middle. 0.97
00:29:28.000 That's the problem with going too far to any side.
00:29:32.000 You can be on either side on issues and all this stuff, but if you go too far and you're too sort of dogmatic on either side, that's when it gets scary.
00:29:40.000 Yeah, and it gets scary quick.
00:29:42.000 Yeah.
00:29:42.000 It gets scary real quick as soon as one incident happens.
00:29:45.000 And it gets scary in France.
00:29:47.000 Imagine scary in this country where you have more guns than you have human beings.
00:29:51.000 That's it.
00:29:52.000 And that's what people go, that's the gun problem!
00:29:55.000 It's not a gun problem.
00:29:56.000 It's a human being problem.
00:29:58.000 And if we address it as a gun problem, you're going to make that human being problem even worse. 0.72
00:30:01.000 Because you're going to take people's guns and you're going to make them more angry.
00:30:05.000 Any kind of legislation that fights against their rights that they think are there by the founding fathers, You're gonna have a giant problem.
00:30:13.000 And when people think that you could just pull it away from them, we're just gonna take away the guns. 1.00
00:30:17.000 Fuck it. 1.00
00:30:17.000 There's nothing they can do. 1.00
00:30:18.000 Jesus Christ.
00:30:19.000 There's definitely something they can do. 0.97
00:30:21.000 And you gotta be really fucking careful starting that war. 0.82
00:30:25.000 It goes back to messaging. 0.98
00:30:26.000 And you're saying, like a lot of people are saying, no, the science is out because they spent billions of dollars to do that.
00:30:31.000 The thing is, is when you are playing such far right, far left partisan politics, then you have people saying, oh, Obamacare.
00:30:40.000 He's a socialist.
00:30:41.000 He's trying to take over the government.
00:30:42.000 He's trying to do this.
00:30:43.000 He's trying to do that.
00:30:43.000 And sort of blowing it up.
00:30:45.000 Why?
00:30:45.000 Because that creates the Tea Party, which, you know, comes in and then they have power.
00:30:49.000 And then the Tea Party, by the way, has to go back to their constituents and say, we're going to repeal it.
00:30:53.000 We're going to do this.
00:30:53.000 We're going to do everything.
00:30:54.000 And it just becomes...
00:30:55.000 Everything goes to the atomic level.
00:30:57.000 Yeah.
00:30:58.000 And so that when you actually go into, you know, into Congress or into the executive or into the Senate and you try to get anything done, you can't.
00:31:09.000 Because you promised that you're not going to, you know, do anything, you're not going to have any sort of, you know, partisan, you know...
00:31:16.000 Relations.
00:31:16.000 Bipartisan relations.
00:31:17.000 Bipartisan relations. 1.00
00:31:18.000 Yeah, it's fucked up, man. 1.00
00:31:19.000 And it's stupid. 1.00
00:31:20.000 And it exists because we have two parties. 1.00
00:31:22.000 When you make two people, you make one of them wear red, and you make one of them wear blue, they start wanting to fight each other. 1.00
00:31:28.000 It's a stupid thing that we have. 0.99
00:31:30.000 Or at least disagree. 1.00
00:31:31.000 You're also always in power.
00:31:32.000 It doesn't matter if you're in or out, you're always in power because there's only two.
00:31:35.000 Right.
00:31:35.000 So you're always going to be this sort of opposition.
00:31:38.000 Yeah, and that influence, the problem is like, this is what people have to realize, a lot of your opinions, and my opinions too, are not really my opinions.
00:31:46.000 They're opinions that I've decided are good, that I've heard from other people.
00:31:49.000 And a lot of our patterns of behaviors, from accents to the way we approach culture, the way we think about women, the way we think about religion, a lot of that is learned.
00:32:01.000 Okay?
00:32:01.000 And we have these two deeply ingrained patterns in this country.
00:32:05.000 We have the Democrats and we have the Republicans.
00:32:07.000 And the Republicans are these no-nonsense, get business done, you know.
00:32:11.000 And the Democrats are, you know, we always think of, oh, these people are all crybabies, and they're all wishy-washy, and they're bleeding hearts.
00:32:20.000 And this is like ingrained.
00:32:22.000 It's sort of ingrained in our system, these two different patterns of behavior.
00:32:26.000 And they're severely problematic.
00:32:29.000 Because you could exhibit a lot of traits on each side and still be a very good person or a lot of ideas on each side and still be a very good person.
00:32:38.000 But if you look at, I remember when, you know, looking at sort of the Clinton administration, he took the largest deficit in history, made it the largest surplus in history, shrunk government, you know, basically the tenants of the Republican Party.
00:32:52.000 W gets in, takes the largest surplus into the largest deficit, expands the government, etc., etc.
00:32:58.000 But nobody said boo.
00:33:00.000 You're like, hold on a second.
00:33:02.000 We just switched these things over here.
00:33:04.000 Well, no one wants to criticize their side.
00:33:06.000 It's like sports teams.
00:33:08.000 Yes, exactly.
00:33:08.000 You pick your sports team when you're six.
00:33:11.000 You pick your political party because your parents do, generally.
00:33:15.000 Yeah.
00:33:16.000 And where you are, and then that's it. 0.99
00:33:18.000 I don't give a shit what they say. 0.99
00:33:19.000 I bet coming out as a Democrat to your dad in a lot of places is like coming out gay. 1.00
00:33:23.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:33:24.000 I bet it's probably one of the same things. 1.00
00:33:25.000 You're a fucking Democrat. 1.00
00:33:26.000 Because they're ashamed. 1.00
00:33:27.000 You're a fucking Democrat. 1.00
00:33:28.000 You're going to vote for Bernie Sanders. 1.00
00:33:30.000 You know what he wants to do with this family?
00:33:33.000 Bernie Sanders wants to give all your money to Black Lives Matter.
00:33:35.000 You cool with that, son?
00:33:36.000 We actually did a show as part of our news thing.
00:33:40.000 We had people going back for Thanksgiving.
00:33:43.000 And it was the parents who voted for Trump versus the kids who voted for either Hillary or didn't vote or whatever.
00:33:49.000 And they were just fighting and crying and freaking out and all this stuff.
00:33:54.000 Why did we get to this level of dysfunction?
00:33:57.000 It's a problem when you have two sides.
00:34:00.000 It's very difficult for two sports teams to meet, say if they meet in neutral territory like Vegas, and the fans get along.
00:34:08.000 They're not going to get along. 1.00
00:34:09.000 People are fools. 1.00
00:34:10.000 We have tribal instincts. 1.00
00:34:11.000 We have instincts built into when we were small bands of 50 people that could barely stay alive, and we were often wiped out.
00:34:17.000 Often.
00:34:18.000 So your genealogy, your family line, all your history, everyone you love could be easily dead in a couple of days. 0.99
00:34:23.000 So that was my question because it seems to me, what I'm getting the feeling now, like humanity when they have a big thing, like a war or something, it's just like we're all getting together and we're all going to fucking do this together and we're going to, you know, science and we're going to work hard and we're going to do all this and we're like, yeah, fuck. 0.95
00:34:38.000 And then when, you know, this has been the largest or longest period of peace and prosperity the world's ever known. 0.80
00:34:46.000 Right now, we see things in Syria.
00:34:48.000 I'm talking about sort of, these are sort of isolated conflicts, but I mean, overall, globally.
00:34:54.000 And what do we do?
00:34:56.000 We're sort of eating ourselves.
00:34:58.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:34:58.000 You know, we're looking inwards and just saying, oh, fuck, I hate that guy. 1.00
00:35:01.000 I hate that guy. 1.00
00:35:01.000 Well, even in their parties, they eat themselves. 1.00
00:35:04.000 Yeah.
00:35:05.000 You pick teams inside your teams.
00:35:07.000 Sure.
00:35:07.000 The Tea Party ousted Boehner.
00:35:09.000 Black Lives Matter is now mad at the women that put on that women's march. 1.00
00:35:14.000 And the transgender community is mad at the women who wore the pussy hats. 1.00
00:35:20.000 Because they're saying that being a woman does not just mean you have a pussy. 1.00
00:35:23.000 Yeah, but Tea Party came in and ousted... 1.00
00:35:26.000 Cantor and Boehner because they had the, you know, sort of audacity to even go meet with, you know, the president or the Democrats.
00:35:33.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:35:33.000 I mean, people are just like, you're like, well, that's your fucking job is to go there and talk to people and make shit happen. 0.99
00:35:39.000 You don't talk to the fucking enemy. 1.00
00:35:40.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:35:41.000 And so anyway, we can go on for our, but I think, you know, both you and I are sort of coming to the same point that you can put any name you want on it.
00:35:50.000 What you're coming to is a sort of dysfunctional relationship.
00:35:53.000 Yeah.
00:35:54.000 That's not going to end anytime soon.
00:35:55.000 What I'm hoping, and this is totally possible, that Generation Y, like you're talking about, Generation X, all these people that are growing up right now and just sort of waking up as adults, like realizing, like half those people that are wandering through the streets when you look at the Women's March, half those people are,
00:36:11.000 you know, in their 20s.
00:36:12.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:36:12.000 They're young folks that are just kind of realizing, like, hey, I'm a fucking adult. 0.99
00:36:16.000 I can go out and organize. 0.99
00:36:17.000 I can get something done.
00:36:18.000 Yeah. 0.90
00:36:18.000 I am really hoping that this message will get out that it is high time we abandon this fucking goofy system and that we demand a better system for running 350 million people and one figurehead and all of his cronies that he stuffs into some office and has massive influence over all of us. 0.90
00:36:38.000 I think it's a giant problem. 0.97
00:36:41.000 It's a giant problem.
00:36:41.000 And to keep those people rotating back and forth from left to right, it's not doing anybody any good.
00:36:47.000 But I think what's ironic about that is I think you'd have a lot of people agree with you on both sides.
00:36:51.000 Yeah.
00:36:52.000 I think we need, like, a council of elders.
00:36:54.000 Like, we've been talking about this lately a lot. 0.99
00:36:56.000 Like, having a council of really fucking smart people. 0.99
00:36:59.000 Right. 0.99
00:36:59.000 You know? 0.99
00:37:00.000 Who would you have on, though?
00:37:02.000 Who would you have on?
00:37:03.000 If you had a council of eight people, who would you put on eight people? 0.96
00:37:07.000 You don't want seven, because it's probably like satanic or some shit, right? 0.95
00:37:10.000 Some lucky weird number. 0.83
00:37:11.000 I mean, you'd need a good doctor, like just for health stuff.
00:37:17.000 I like Siddhartha Mukherjee, who wrote The Emperor of All Maladies.
00:37:22.000 How about Sanjay Gupta?
00:37:24.000 I like that guy.
00:37:25.000 I used to hate him and then I liked him.
00:37:27.000 I like Siddhartha.
00:37:28.000 I think he's a real genius when it comes to stuff like that.
00:37:32.000 I think you need a good tech person because I think...
00:37:36.000 Elon Musk.
00:37:36.000 He's in.
00:37:37.000 Elon Musk.
00:37:38.000 I'm a big fan of Elon Musk.
00:37:39.000 I'm a big fan of Elon as well.
00:37:43.000 You know, what he can do... 0.95
00:37:46.000 On his own is just fucking amazing. 1.00
00:37:48.000 He's digging a fucking tunnel. 0.99
00:37:49.000 He's tired of the traffic in LA, so he's digging a giant tunnel. 1.00
00:37:53.000 I love Elon Musk.
00:37:55.000 I love Elon Musk.
00:37:57.000 I like the fact that, like, batteries. 0.99
00:38:01.000 You know, the thing with solar didn't work because fucking storage didn't work. 1.00
00:38:04.000 So he's like, fuck it, I'm going to make it. 0.99
00:38:05.000 And he took the Tesla, made the battery thing into a power. 0.99
00:38:08.000 What else is the best battery in the world?
00:38:09.000 You know what else I like about him?
00:38:11.000 He married an actress twice with no prenup.
00:38:14.000 He married the same actress twice.
00:38:15.000 You know what that means? 1.00
00:38:16.000 That means he drinks and he fucks. 1.00
00:38:19.000 He drinks and he fucks because that's the only way you make those goddamn decisions. 1.00
00:38:22.000 You marry that same actress twice with no prenup? 1.00
00:38:26.000 If he did that, he's an animal. 1.00
00:38:27.000 He's a savage. 0.99
00:38:28.000 He's in.
00:38:29.000 He's like, I love you. 0.98
00:38:30.000 I don't give a fuck about a prenup. 1.00
00:38:31.000 He came inside of her. 1.00
00:38:32.000 They fucking high-fived. 1.00
00:38:33.000 That's my kind of guy, and he's making batteries. 1.00
00:38:36.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:38:37.000 Making fucking good batteries. 1.00
00:38:38.000 He's making good batteries. 0.99
00:38:39.000 He's making charging stations everywhere.
00:38:41.000 We gotta put him in.
00:38:43.000 Okay, so we got Elon Musk.
00:38:44.000 We got Sanjay Gupta.
00:38:45.000 We got your guy.
00:38:47.000 But you need a good common sense, like...
00:38:50.000 Do we have Al Gore?
00:38:52.000 Al Gore, you know, there's a little bit of criticism because of that movie.
00:38:55.000 A lot of people think it's important.
00:38:57.000 I'm an environmentalist, but I think he's too far over there.
00:39:04.000 I think you need to sort of...
00:39:05.000 If it was me, you want someone...
00:39:07.000 You know who I like?
00:39:08.000 I like, there's a guy named Eric Schmidt, and he's the chief, or one of the head NASA scientists.
00:39:16.000 And these guys are just super smart dudes, right?
00:39:20.000 Men and women, actually, because the chief scientist at NASA, I met as well, and she's fantastic as well.
00:39:26.000 But you just need like a common sense...
00:39:29.000 person who just goes in there with no rhetoric or no politics or anything just saying look we have to reduce emissions by 80% if we don't we all die so here's what we're gonna do we're gonna get a lot of batteries and we're gonna put the things on because the batteries can finally do it now and this is what we're gonna do you need someone to do that because when it gets hyper politicized and stuff and everything gets fucking lost in the bullshit you just need a commonsensical person who just says this is what needs to happen because this is what the fucking science says The 0.94
00:40:01.000 logjams that you must have at a big corporation, say if you worked for Under Armour, the logjams you must have if you want to get something done, they're probably monumental. 0.99
00:40:09.000 It's probably a million people, you're trying to talk about this and you have to have design meetings and sit down and try new fabric, oh this fucking sucks, let me try this.
00:40:17.000 Just imagine that. 0.98
00:40:19.000 In politics.
00:40:20.000 Yes.
00:40:20.000 Imagine running the country and trillions of dollars involved.
00:40:26.000 All these people!
00:40:27.000 Did you watch House of Cards?
00:40:28.000 Yeah.
00:40:29.000 Me too.
00:40:29.000 I love it.
00:40:30.000 I wish it was like that.
00:40:32.000 Well, maybe it is.
00:40:33.000 Well, I was watching, actually, ironically, I was watching the LBJ documentary.
00:40:37.000 And what was interesting about that was that, you know, here's this guy who's basically a political mechanic.
00:40:44.000 You know, who's sitting there, and everybody wants something. 0.93
00:40:47.000 Everybody, you know, is trying to get this, and basically, it's completely fucked, and you can't get anything done.
00:40:54.000 And the only thing that came across there was he got everything done by lying to everybody, by just saying, I'm going to give you what you want, and I'm going to give you what you want, and I'm going to give you what you want, and then just sort of figuring it out at the end. 0.80
00:41:06.000 And I was just watching it. 0.98
00:41:08.000 It was fantastic, because you're like, that's probably the last era When you could actually get shit done. 0.98
00:41:14.000 And he was like... 0.92
00:41:16.000 I mean, who knows?
00:41:17.000 Because it was a movie.
00:41:19.000 But he was just sort of...
00:41:21.000 He was like the last of the...
00:41:24.000 Because I look at Frank Underwood, and I always call him...
00:41:27.000 He was a political mechanic.
00:41:28.000 He was the guy who could go get the votes, and he could drum up the votes, and he could do it.
00:41:32.000 He reminds me, actually...
00:41:33.000 We're talking about the lead figure, Kevin Spacey.
00:41:36.000 Kevin Spacey character.
00:41:37.000 In House of Cards.
00:41:37.000 But he kind of...
00:41:38.000 Without the sort of psychopath, you know, sociopath thing.
00:41:42.000 He reminds me of Speaker Boehner, because Speaker Boehner was that kind of guy.
00:41:45.000 Like, how many votes do we need?
00:41:46.000 How do we get it in?
00:41:47.000 What do we trade off?
00:41:48.000 Like, they get an aircraft carrier plant in Pittsburgh or whatever, and we get this thing.
00:41:52.000 You know, but it doesn't happen anymore.
00:41:55.000 Those kind of guys don't happen anymore.
00:41:57.000 But why not? 0.96
00:41:58.000 I don't fucking know. 0.95
00:41:59.000 Well, is that preferable to what we've got now? 0.97
00:42:02.000 I mean, what... 0.99
00:42:03.000 Well, because shit would actually get done. 0.99
00:42:06.000 I don't think shit gets done now. 0.99
00:42:07.000 In fact, they go backwards. 0.97
00:42:08.000 So, to go back to the Council of Elders, something needs to happen where there's some sort of change because it's not going to fix itself.
00:42:17.000 Right. 0.98
00:42:17.000 No one's going to fucking fix. 0.98
00:42:18.000 In fact, in Washington now, they're saying the biggest thing is the Supreme Court... 0.99
00:42:25.000 Because everything's so fucked, and everybody realizes it, that everything will have to go up to the Supreme Court and be decided there. 0.95
00:42:31.000 Because it will not be decided in the Senate, in Congress, or in Executive. 0.98
00:42:34.000 That's how fucked it is, is that we're going, that's what's really important, because we have to sue each other on everything we want to do. 0.83
00:42:40.000 Okay, I got another member of our council of elders, Neil deGrasse Tyson. 0.98
00:42:44.000 Must be in there.
00:42:46.000 He has to be in there.
00:42:48.000 Who else?
00:42:49.000 There's a guy that I would take to, if you're looking at that kind of thing, this guy, Taylor Wilson, he built a fusion reactor in his garage when he was 14. Oh, yeah, I heard that story.
00:43:04.000 They found him, right?
00:43:06.000 Yeah, I interviewed him.
00:43:07.000 They found the reactor, like there was some sort of a reading they were getting.
00:43:11.000 No, he was taking energy off the grid in massive amounts.
00:43:16.000 Right, that's what it was, right?
00:43:16.000 Yeah, and then the government sort of took him, and now he's got his own lab, so he's a fantastic guy.
00:43:23.000 But that's how they found him, right?
00:43:24.000 Like there was some crazy power drain or something?
00:43:26.000 I mean, I shouldn't talk because I don't know the actual story.
00:43:29.000 But I remember they were like, well...
00:43:31.000 I mean, they know because he was getting the materials and all the stuff.
00:43:35.000 Taylor's nukesite.
00:43:36.000 This kid's out of his mind.
00:43:37.000 But he was actually...
00:43:38.000 You know what?
00:43:40.000 When he was 14, he was getting...
00:43:42.000 He was plotting uranium mines.
00:43:44.000 He figured out if you put, like, you know...
00:43:52.000 What kind of cancer does he have?
00:44:05.000 There's a bunch of gear?
00:44:06.000 You know, he's an expert.
00:44:07.000 But anyway...
00:44:08.000 He's 14!
00:44:08.000 But the whole thing with him now...
00:44:10.000 Well, now he's 23. But the thing is, he's into dark matter, dark energy, and he's going around the Hydron Collider and CERN. And I'm just like, this kid...
00:44:20.000 I don't know if we talked about this.
00:44:22.000 There he is.
00:44:22.000 Look at him.
00:44:23.000 So he came up with...
00:44:24.000 Looks like a girl.
00:44:25.000 Is that him?
00:44:26.000 Yeah, that's him when he was young.
00:44:28.000 The reason why I like him so much is he came up with a fail-safe reactor, a little tiny one, and he's like, with all the sort of the old...
00:44:38.000 Power plants?
00:44:39.000 No, yeah, they're spent waste.
00:44:42.000 And the weapons that we have to store, which we can't store for more than 100 years, but they need to be stored for 10,000 years, he can take little pea-sized bits of that, put it into a fail-safe reactor that sort of drains into a salt thing, whatever, and it can't be,
00:44:58.000 whatever, it's fail-safe.
00:45:00.000 They're small, but they do like 50,000 houses or 100,000 houses.
00:45:04.000 And just by using the fuel that we already have that we can't store, we can power the world for the next 10,000 years.
00:45:12.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:45:14.000 So when I hear this, and this is his thing, and by the way, he's being backed by Elon and all the big names and whatever, but the thing is, I'm like, I want that kid on my side.
00:45:23.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.
00:45:24.000 I want that kid to sit there and say, how about we don't, like, Eric Schmidt's going to say, not Eric Schmidt, what's his name? 1.00
00:45:31.000 Shit, Eric Schmidt is a goof. 0.99
00:45:32.000 Anyway, somebody Schmidt from NASA. Dr. Schmidt is going to say, hey, we need to reduce emissions by 80% and we're all going to die. 1.00
00:45:42.000 And then Taylor goes, got it!
00:45:44.000 We do these little reactors and we eat up all the old warheads and we're done.
00:45:51.000 Yeah, they can turn them into batteries that last for...
00:45:53.000 Pull that up.
00:45:54.000 They turn them into batteries made out of diamonds that last for thousands of years.
00:45:59.000 And so you just want somebody to say, got it, here it is, we roll it out, boom.
00:46:04.000 Well, it's always made sense to me that if we're putting carbon out in the atmosphere, and carbon's valuable for construction and a lot of different things, there's got to be a way to...
00:46:12.000 Biofuels.
00:46:13.000 So if you want to do biofuels, it's all carbon.
00:46:17.000 You need CO2 to inject into the biofuels.
00:46:19.000 And you're like... 0.99
00:46:20.000 Refine the carbon out of the goddamn atmosphere. 1.00
00:46:23.000 So when they make biodiesel with like corn and shit like that? 1.00
00:46:27.000 There's the one that use algae. 0.97
00:46:29.000 Look at that.
00:46:30.000 Yeah.
00:46:30.000 Diamonds turn nuclear waste into nuclear batteries.
00:46:33.000 There you go.
00:46:34.000 Jesus Christ.
00:46:34.000 See if you can pull up Taylor's reactor thing.
00:46:38.000 It's fantastic.
00:46:39.000 It's fascinating.
00:46:40.000 That would kind of solve all of our problems.
00:46:42.000 Exactly.
00:46:42.000 I mean, it really would.
00:46:44.000 As soon as we no longer have any emissions.
00:46:46.000 It's like his reactor that uses the spent...
00:46:51.000 He did a TED Talk on it.
00:46:52.000 Anyway, so we need him.
00:46:55.000 Because whenever I'm around him, I feel better about humanity.
00:46:58.000 Because I'm like, this is so devastating and I don't know how to fix it.
00:47:02.000 He goes, well, the science is there.
00:47:03.000 You can do it tomorrow.
00:47:04.000 You're just going to...
00:47:04.000 And you're like...
00:47:06.000 Oh, how do we get that done? 1.00
00:47:08.000 We've got to keep that 23-year-old kid away from pussy. 1.00
00:47:11.000 That's what we've got to do. 1.00
00:47:12.000 We've got to keep him productive.
00:47:13.000 You know?
00:47:14.000 Because some girl that wrecked Elon Musk, that same type of guy, should get a hold of him. 1.00
00:47:18.000 Elon's doing well.
00:47:18.000 Elon's doing well.
00:47:19.000 Elon's strong.
00:47:19.000 We don't know about this boy.
00:47:21.000 He's good.
00:47:21.000 We don't know about his resolve.
00:47:23.000 He's good.
00:47:23.000 Some of them, we lose some good ones.
00:47:25.000 We lost Nikola Tesla to a pigeon.
00:47:27.000 You need like a philosopher king, kind of like big picture, globalist, globalist.
00:47:33.000 I want Sam Harris on the board.
00:47:34.000 All right.
00:47:35.000 Sam Harris.
00:47:36.000 He must be.
00:47:37.000 Council of Elders.
00:47:37.000 A lot of people right now on Reddit.
00:47:39.000 Boo! 0.83
00:47:40.000 On Twitter.
00:47:41.000 Boo! 0.83
00:47:41.000 It's interesting. 0.83
00:47:42.000 Who is someone that's just got a big picture, understands everything, is going to sort of smooth out everything?
00:47:50.000 It's really hard to find people like that.
00:47:52.000 It's really hard to find people that are open to the facts, that are willing to change their mind, aren't attached to their ideas, and willing to look at every side of things before they form an opinion.
00:48:04.000 Most people don't have the time to do that.
00:48:05.000 That's part of the issue.
00:48:07.000 Part of the issue, I think, when anyone's talking about anything related to the environment or politics or gender or race or anything is there's only so much fucking time in the world, so it's so much easier to form this prejudiced opinion or this predetermined opinion on everything across the board,
00:48:23.000 which is why, like, being on the right is so popular. 0.99
00:48:25.000 It's so easy to dismiss everybody as a bunch of babies and shit on them, you know? 0.99
00:48:30.000 It's much easier to shit on things than to say, here's a solution. 1.00
00:48:33.000 Much easier. 0.99
00:48:34.000 That's why I like Taylor. 0.99
00:48:34.000 I'm like, this fucking kid, like, He's just like, not only is the science there, we can do this, this, this, and this. 0.99
00:48:41.000 And I'm like, well, why don't we do that? 1.00
00:48:42.000 And he goes, politics, money, this, that.
00:48:44.000 Elon Musk could have a baby.
00:48:47.000 Drill.
00:48:47.000 Start drilling.
00:48:49.000 Have a fucking tube that goes straight through the magma. 0.99
00:48:51.000 It's interesting that we cannot think, between the two of us, of someone who could just be, you know... 1.00
00:49:01.000 Someone who's just wise.
00:49:01.000 Acceptable and believable, and people will just go, okay, I get it.
00:49:07.000 Someone who's really wise.
00:49:09.000 They don't necessarily have to be the smartest person in the world.
00:49:12.000 And also, they can convey, this is what we're doing, this is why we're doing it.
00:49:18.000 Because you need a communicator.
00:49:20.000 Because Taylor and Elon are not going to be communicating You know, the batteries and the physics behind, you know, the little peas and the thing.
00:49:29.000 I mean, you need someone to say, this is what we're doing.
00:49:31.000 This is why we're doing it.
00:49:32.000 This is why everybody in the world.
00:49:33.000 Like, who is the best, most believable politician in the last 50 years?
00:49:38.000 Who is going to be that person?
00:49:39.000 Jimmy Carter?
00:49:40.000 Globally.
00:49:41.000 Globally.
00:49:42.000 It's funny about Jimmy Carter because I've never met anyone as sort of quick.
00:49:45.000 You know, he's like, I don't know how old, he's 94 now or something.
00:49:48.000 He's so fast and he's got the stats, he's got the whatever.
00:49:52.000 And he looks and he sounds like the perfect president.
00:49:55.000 He was destroyed when he was in power.
00:49:58.000 He was just vilified.
00:49:59.000 So you're like, he was a great smart guy.
00:50:01.000 He should have been like a Secretary General of the UN or something.
00:50:04.000 I don't know about presidents.
00:50:05.000 He was, as his character, like how he presents himself, he was not like a firm leader character.
00:50:13.000 You know, he was a kind gentleman from Georgia, a peanut farmer.
00:50:17.000 And a smart, just a genuinely smart dude with a good...
00:50:23.000 Like, moral center.
00:50:24.000 He was worked, and he was worked towards the end by the Reagan administration when they were coming in, the Reagan campaign, because they were the first campaign to ever use the rights connection to Christianity.
00:50:38.000 This is the first time they had organized the hardcore religious base.
00:50:42.000 Right, even though...
00:50:43.000 He was a pastor.
00:50:45.000 They got him.
00:50:46.000 I know.
00:50:47.000 It's kind of crazy.
00:50:48.000 It's kind of crazy.
00:50:48.000 Very religious guy.
00:50:49.000 But Reagan and the Republicans connected themselves to these crazy televangelists and Christian church and Jerry Falwell. 0.64
00:50:57.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:50:58.000 That's how W got elected.
00:50:59.000 Because he could get out the evangelical base.
00:51:02.000 So they worked him there.
00:51:03.000 They worked him there. 1.00
00:51:04.000 And Ronald Reagan was a fucking actor. 1.00
00:51:06.000 He was a much better public speaker. 1.00
00:51:07.000 He was much stronger. 0.99
00:51:08.000 He had slick back hair like a goddamn comic book from the 50s. 0.99
00:51:11.000 I mean, he looked the role. 0.99
00:51:13.000 Yeah, because he was...
00:51:15.000 Like, the president, in many cases, is the Queen of England.
00:51:18.000 It's a ceremonial thing.
00:51:20.000 And that's why I'm saying you need a communicator who can sort of get things across...
00:51:26.000 But nobody really believed Carter, and half the country didn't believe Reagan, or they believed him after he was gone, because everyone's like...
00:51:33.000 Well, it's convenient to love Reagan now, but I remember, and you remember, when we were kids... 0.98
00:51:38.000 That's what punk rock started in America, was because Reagan got in, and we all went fucking New York hardcore and all that shit. 0.98
00:51:44.000 But, you know, it's a shame that we cannot think... 0.98
00:51:47.000 It doesn't have to be America.
00:51:48.000 What about, like, in the world? 0.99
00:51:50.000 Isn't there somebody in the world, in the fucking world? 0.99
00:51:52.000 Hard-pressed. 0.99
00:51:53.000 Hard-pressed to find a prominent public figure that really stands out like that.
00:51:57.000 That's pretty interesting.
00:51:58.000 Deepak Chopra!
00:52:00.000 No, I'm just kidding.
00:52:04.000 Yeah, man. 0.99
00:52:06.000 Oh, the other thing that Carter got fucked on was the hostages. 0.98
00:52:09.000 They had negotiated the release of the hostages to make sure that it was done once Reagan was in office and not before that. 0.99
00:52:16.000 And they had kept those fucking American citizens over there. 0.98
00:52:19.000 I mean, this is a proven conspiracy. 0.99
00:52:21.000 They kept those American citizens over there longer than they had to be because they wanted to make sure that it all looked good.
00:52:27.000 You had that happen, which was not good.
00:52:30.000 You also had, I mean, there's also an economic timing issue, and you had this oil crisis, and you had a recession, you have all these bad things happening, and you're like, well, that's Carter's fault.
00:52:39.000 And it was also when they ruined American cars.
00:52:42.000 There you go. 1.00
00:52:42.000 They all turned to shit. 1.00
00:52:44.000 American cars in the 1960s, up until the early 70s, were fucking awesome. 1.00
00:52:48.000 Yeah, they were the best.
00:52:49.000 They were the coolest looking cars, and to this day, they're like the biggest collector cars, like Barracudas and Corvettes and all those old cars. 0.99
00:52:56.000 As soon as that gas crisis hit, man, those cars turned to shit.
00:53:00.000 Well, also, same thing, every time there's a gas crisis, so that's when the Japanese cars became popular, that's when they became popular. 0.98
00:53:05.000 It's the exact same thing.
00:53:07.000 You know, the SUVs were the highest sellers before the last oil crisis, or when they went through the roof, and then that's when the Prius, they couldn't make them fast enough.
00:53:20.000 It was exactly the same thing that happened in the late 70s.
00:53:23.000 So I think, anyway...
00:53:25.000 But the Prius is a far better car than the 1980s Mustang.
00:53:28.000 Yeah.
00:53:30.000 That's like taking, they took one of the best cars ever, like from Steve McQueen, Bullet, remember that movie? 0.98
00:53:35.000 Fuck yeah, that was a 68, I think it was a 68 Mustang. 0.99
00:53:39.000 Goddamn, it was a gorgeous piece of metal. 0.99
00:53:41.000 And they turned that into these 1980s things. 0.99
00:53:44.000 They were like, what in the fuck happened? 0.97
00:53:46.000 What did you do? 0.99
00:53:47.000 I look at a lot of stuff and say, what the fuck was going on? 1.00
00:53:50.000 What the fuck? 0.99
00:53:51.000 Like the late 70s Mustang. 1.00
00:53:52.000 Find like a... 1.00
00:53:53.000 That's the shit. 1.00
00:53:55.000 Come on, man. 1.00
00:53:56.000 That's the Bullitt Mustang.
00:53:57.000 That's the Steve McQueen 68 Fastback.
00:54:00.000 I like the Mach 1. I like them all.
00:54:03.000 I love them.
00:54:06.000 There's something about American muscle cars from the 60s and the early 70s.
00:54:09.000 Oh, the Bullitt Mustang.
00:54:10.000 Yeah, that's it. 0.99
00:54:10.000 Fucking Steve McQueen, baby. 0.99
00:54:13.000 Look at that goddamn car. 1.00
00:54:15.000 So you go from that, now type up 1980 Mustang. 1.00
00:54:20.000 Be prepared to throw up.
00:54:22.000 Get ready to puke. 0.96
00:54:24.000 Here we go. 1.00
00:54:26.000 What in the fuck is that hunk of shit? 1.00
00:54:28.000 It's like a gay car. 1.00
00:54:30.000 How the fuck? 1.00
00:54:31.000 How the fuck? 1.00
00:54:32.000 Nobody wants that car. 0.99
00:54:34.000 That car is worth three cents. 1.00
00:54:36.000 Nobody wants that fucking car. 0.99
00:54:38.000 I think actually people who like Logan's Run and all that stuff, like those old 70s futurists, they would like it. 0.99
00:54:48.000 No, even them. 0.94
00:54:50.000 Even those dummies. 1.00
00:54:53.000 They just made some terrible fucking cars in the late 70s and put that away. 1.00
00:54:58.000 You're making me throw up. 1.00
00:54:59.000 There you go.
00:55:01.000 Something happened.
00:55:02.000 It's interesting.
00:55:03.000 So on our Council of Elders, we don't have one politician.
00:55:06.000 No, we can't have one of those.
00:55:07.000 So we got some good doctors.
00:55:10.000 We got some good scientists.
00:55:12.000 We got a tech guy.
00:55:12.000 We got some visionaries.
00:55:14.000 We probably need more than one tech guy.
00:55:16.000 Who else do we need?
00:55:16.000 Probably going to need some tech guy to balance out Elon.
00:55:19.000 Elon might get a little wacky. 0.97
00:55:21.000 Start sending people to Mars and shit. 0.95
00:55:24.000 Now, here's the other thing, is the Council of Elders for the world or for the country, because then you also need some military dudes to say, we can't. 0.94
00:55:33.000 The one thing that is sort of, whatever, a truism, is that you have to preach that sort of There is no democracy without safety.
00:55:46.000 Right.
00:55:47.000 It's true.
00:55:47.000 And you have to have guaranteed sort of protection.
00:55:51.000 And if you look at Europe, it's quite interesting because when they sort of said, okay, we're going to protect this area and there's an economic benefit for this area, you had all the little groups start to say like Scotland or the Basque countries or Catalonia or all these different say,
00:56:08.000 well, we want to split off.
00:56:10.000 Right?
00:56:10.000 Because it's more democratic to have smaller sort of runnable countries that – and they're like, well, we want to have our own thing because we'll be part of this bigger thing, but we want to be more democratic.
00:56:21.000 And I think that's quite interesting because you have these supranational political entities that sort of guarantee safety and economic security, and then therefore it's much more democratic.
00:56:30.000 So you sort of sit there and say, okay, well, if that's the case, then you have to have that guaranteed security.
00:56:35.000 So how do you do that?
00:56:37.000 Well, this is the ultimate goal, and this is going to take several generations.
00:56:42.000 End all nations.
00:56:44.000 Treat each other now, because we are so big and we are so connected, treat each other now as one organism, one gigantic superorganism, the human race. 0.99
00:56:55.000 End all this country bullshit. 0.97
00:56:57.000 Difficult to do. 1.00
00:56:58.000 Well, insanely, almost impossible to do.
00:57:02.000 I'm saying and I know it.
00:57:03.000 Unless there's a...
00:57:04.000 See, what I was going to go back to is, like, we're great at, like, war. 0.99
00:57:09.000 Like, when there's a war, oh, fuck, we've got to go get them, you know. 0.99
00:57:12.000 What if, or let's say, so I view it like this, but, like, let's say there's a fucking asteroid coming towards us. 0.99
00:57:18.000 Like, we're going to put all over the global, you know, like a movie. 0.81
00:57:21.000 We're going to put everybody, the smartest guys, the Russian guys, and the Chinese guys, and us, and everybody's going to go up and do this thing.
00:57:26.000 So if that's the case, and I always say humans aren't going to move unless we have a gun to our head.
00:57:31.000 But at some point what happens is, let's say Greenland, a big chunk, four feet, Miami goes away. 0.97
00:57:39.000 And everybody goes, oh shit, now we got to do something. 0.99
00:57:43.000 At that point, everybody goes, okay. 0.99
00:57:47.000 Because if Miami goes away, Shanghai goes away.
00:57:50.000 So Shanghai goes away, Mumbai goes away. 1.00
00:57:52.000 And so if you're sitting there, you go, okay, everybody's going to get together and say, shit. 1.00
00:57:57.000 The ocean's rising. 1.00
00:57:58.000 We've got to do something.
00:57:58.000 We've got to do something right now.
00:57:59.000 But there's always going to be people that are ignoring that and profiting.
00:58:02.000 Somebody else is going to take care of it.
00:58:03.000 Let's start drilling.
00:58:04.000 And they're going to do that.
00:58:05.000 They're going to do that short term.
00:58:06.000 Don't you think, though, that if Mumbai goes away, Miami goes away, New York goes away, whatever, all the sea, the big sea next to the sea cities go away.
00:58:16.000 Now, this is interesting, because when we were shooting this doc on Sea Level Rise, One of the things that's damning to oil companies is they're like, well, we didn't know.
00:58:27.000 Science has not decided. 0.96
00:58:28.000 We didn't fucking know. 0.97
00:58:30.000 While this was happening, they raised, spending hundreds of millions of dollars, more, billions of dollars, they raised all their oil platforms by eight feet. 0.99
00:58:39.000 Ooh.
00:58:40.000 Why?
00:58:41.000 Because they didn't want them getting sunk.
00:58:44.000 Because...
00:58:44.000 Oh, Jesus.
00:58:45.000 The outside prediction...
00:58:46.000 So they have to last 80 years for insurance, you know, for the life of things.
00:58:50.000 So the outside prediction for 100 years was 8 feet.
00:58:54.000 That's 4 feet.
00:58:55.000 It's 3 feet to 4 feet, and then the outside is 8 feet.
00:58:58.000 So they're like, okay, we'll just do 8 feet.
00:59:01.000 So they know.
00:59:01.000 So they know.
00:59:02.000 If you don't raise something and pay hundreds of millions of dollars to raise it eight feet, why eight feet?
00:59:08.000 Why not four feet?
00:59:09.000 Why not three feet?
00:59:09.000 Why not twelve feet?
00:59:11.000 In any case, so the thing is, is you sit there and say, okay, eight feet.
00:59:15.000 At four feet, Miami's gone.
00:59:17.000 New York's gone.
00:59:18.000 At eight feet, we're all sitting there going, okay...
00:59:22.000 It probably gets to Topanga Canyon.
00:59:24.000 We're up here. 0.99
00:59:26.000 Fucking eight feet. 0.99
00:59:27.000 It probably gets close. 0.99
00:59:28.000 So at that point, humanity goes, holy shit, we need Taylor and we need Elon. 0.70
00:59:32.000 And so that's an interesting point. 0.91
00:59:35.000 I think that ultimately what is going to happen, and it may take 100 years, it may take 500 years.
00:59:40.000 I think ultimately we're going to reach a technologically driven state of evolution that bypasses our biological evolution.
00:59:49.000 So I've got an answer to that.
00:59:51.000 I agree.
00:59:52.000 Half the world will do that.
00:59:54.000 Maybe.
00:59:55.000 And the other half the world goes the opposite way.
00:59:58.000 Maybe.
00:59:59.000 That's what's happening now.
01:00:00.000 But it's not happening now with cell phones.
01:00:03.000 Cell phones have gone all over the world.
01:00:05.000 Right.
01:00:05.000 And if we can achieve a technology that allows people to understand each other in a way that's way deeper and more intimate...
01:00:16.000 Then just getting to know somebody, they talk to you, you talk to me.
01:00:20.000 You and I have been friends for a long time now, and every time I see you, I give you a big hug.
01:00:25.000 I know I see Shane, I'm going to give him a hug.
01:00:27.000 I associate you with my friend.
01:00:29.000 It's happiness.
01:00:30.000 We have a lot of great talks.
01:00:32.000 We get drunk together.
01:00:33.000 And that's all built in.
01:00:34.000 But it takes a while to establish that, right?
01:00:36.000 It takes a while to make a bond between two people who enjoy each other's company.
01:00:40.000 I think this whole world could be a bunch of friends.
01:00:45.000 It sounds crazy, but it can be done.
01:00:48.000 It can be done in small groups.
01:00:49.000 It can be done in this room.
01:00:50.000 It can be done in this town.
01:00:52.000 I think it can be done if we're facing extinction.
01:00:54.000 I don't think it can be done otherwise, because what I see happening, to go back to if we don't have war, like global war, we have this eating ourselves thing.
01:01:03.000 And if you look at the world, you have half the world, roughly.
01:01:08.000 Saying, technology can fix us.
01:01:10.000 We're going to go to Mars.
01:01:11.000 We're going to have little pellets of things which are going to feed 50 houses.
01:01:16.000 We're going to do this. 0.99
01:01:17.000 And then you have the other half of the world that's saying, fuck reading. 1.00
01:01:22.000 You know, fuck technology. 1.00
01:01:24.000 We're going back to, you know, another time. 1.00
01:01:28.000 And not just the Muslim world.
01:01:29.000 You have lots of different groups in Africa.
01:01:33.000 You have lots of different groups in obviously the Middle East. 1.00
01:01:35.000 You have different groups who are saying, fuck that. 1.00
01:01:37.000 We're not doing that. 1.00
01:01:38.000 And so they're moving away from it.
01:01:40.000 So you have this sort of duopoly in the world of people who are going one way and then people who are going the other way.
01:01:45.000 And I don't think that unless you have a common goal, which is, by the way, we're all going to die unless we do this, that everybody does it.
01:01:53.000 And it's like Star Trek.
01:01:55.000 In Star Trek, they did this thing where everybody from the world is finally together and then we're all working together for this great thing, which is exploring space.
01:02:03.000 But they needed that whole...
01:02:05.000 You know, focus that goal. 0.99
01:02:07.000 And I think we need that focus and that goal, which is why, again, to go back to war zones, when you go to war zones, you say, oh shit, we shouldn't be fucking dropping bombs on each other. 0.98
01:02:15.000 And then when you go and talk to scientists, they go, oh, it's coming. 0.99
01:02:19.000 And it's coming fucking now. 0.99
01:02:21.000 And I'm not like this crazy dude or whatever. 1.00
01:02:24.000 I'm just a regular dude going, oh shit, it's because I talked to these scientists. 0.99
01:02:28.000 Like we just did this thing in Russia. 0.99
01:02:33.000 Where, I don't know if you know about this, but the permafrost, have you heard about the permafrost?
01:02:36.000 Yes.
01:02:37.000 All the carbon in the permafrost.
01:02:38.000 It's released.
01:02:39.000 It's going to be released.
01:02:40.000 It's melting.
01:02:41.000 And so it releases carbon.
01:02:44.000 It actually releases methane, which is 20 times worse than carbon.
01:02:46.000 And there's more carbon...
01:02:49.000 In the permafrost than all of the carbon that we've released since the Industrial Revolution started.
01:02:55.000 Because it's a bunch of dead things that have died up there for millions of years.
01:03:01.000 Correct.
01:03:01.000 And all that's going to get warmed up.
01:03:03.000 Correct. 1.00
01:03:04.000 And it's going to be a bunch of stinky dead bodies and animal shit. 1.00
01:03:08.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:03:09.000 Do you want to know two interesting things about that?
01:03:11.000 Whoa.
01:03:12.000 I got two interesting things about that.
01:03:14.000 One is, we went up to lakes in both Russia and the Arctic, and you pop a hole in the lake, and you put a torch in front, and it shoots out like an oil flare.
01:03:25.000 Oh my god.
01:03:27.000 Oh, I've seen that. 0.99
01:03:28.000 Because there's methane in the lake, in the water, and it's just shooting out like an oil flare, and you're like, what the fuck? 0.99
01:03:35.000 A. B, this is going to sound crazy, but it's actually fucking true. 0.99
01:03:40.000 So we go to Siberia and we hang out with this dude who's been living in the permafrost. 0.94
01:03:44.000 He's like the world's biggest expert on permafrost.
01:03:47.000 Is he a scientist?
01:03:48.000 A scientist.
01:03:49.000 And there's all these slumps.
01:03:50.000 They have the biggest slump in the world.
01:03:54.000 A slump?
01:03:54.000 So it's where the permafrost melts.
01:03:56.000 And the permafrost is like frozen ground, like dirt and shit. 0.99
01:04:00.000 It's also frozen water. 0.96
01:04:02.000 And so when it melts, the water goes away, and the ground, which is left, sort of slumped.
01:04:07.000 And it goes down like 20 or 30 feet.
01:04:09.000 And so you just have these, all over Siberia, you have these huge, like, two, three, four mile wide, just like, craters.
01:04:16.000 Jesus Christ!
01:04:17.000 You know?
01:04:18.000 And so...
01:04:20.000 He's there and he's like the sort of foremost expert.
01:04:23.000 And what's interesting about it is he goes, look, in the Ice Age, here's what happened.
01:04:26.000 There were not that many humans, but there were millions upon millions of animals. 0.98
01:04:30.000 And there were like elk and there were, you know, caribou and all this shit. 0.98
01:04:34.000 And there were woolly mammoths. 0.98
01:04:35.000 You know what they did? 0.99
01:04:36.000 They ate all the fucking shrubs and the trees and shit, which actually, you know, made the ground... 0.99
01:04:43.000 It'll freeze much deeper because, you know, there's a lot of things like dark sort of, you know, brings in heat and it, you know, takes the insulation away, all this stuff. 0.99
01:04:53.000 Because the foliage is not there anymore, so the sun beats directly down the earth.
01:04:56.000 Correct.
01:04:56.000 And so, anyways, he...
01:04:59.000 No, because the trees bring in the heat and hold it in.
01:05:04.000 It freezes more in the winter and then therefore stays colder.
01:05:08.000 In any case...
01:05:09.000 So he's like, look, here's what we have to do.
01:05:11.000 We have to put millions of caribou and millions of horses and millions of elk and stuff up in Siberia. 0.65
01:05:18.000 But he goes, that'll get you 60% of the way there. 0.97
01:05:22.000 The only thing that'll get us really there is the fucking woolly mammoth. 0.98
01:05:25.000 Now, this is not a joke. 0.99
01:05:26.000 What?
01:05:27.000 So, ironically, they found a woolly mammoth perfectly preserved in the permafrost. 0.99
01:05:34.000 Like, it fell into a fucking lake and froze and never... 0.99
01:05:38.000 Thought out. 1.00
01:05:39.000 Thought out.
01:05:39.000 So, when they opened it up, it still had red cells, like living cells.
01:05:43.000 So, you know what they're doing?
01:05:45.000 We shot this, and I was watching this with my mouth on the ground.
01:05:49.000 They're cloning...
01:05:51.000 The woolly mammoths.
01:05:52.000 There you go.
01:05:53.000 Woolly mammoth skin found well preserved in permafrost gives new hope for climate.
01:05:57.000 Look up the trunk.
01:05:58.000 Look up the trunk.
01:06:00.000 They have a full...
01:06:02.000 Jesus, look at it.
01:06:03.000 Look it up there, though.
01:06:03.000 Look at that image.
01:06:04.000 But they have a full trunk.
01:06:05.000 Look up the woolly mammoth trunk.
01:06:08.000 Because they have this full trunk that they're...
01:06:13.000 No, that's a tusk.
01:06:15.000 No, they have a trunk.
01:06:16.000 Like they have a full trunk.
01:06:18.000 In any case, they're trying to clone using elephants.
01:06:21.000 You wrote tusk.
01:06:21.000 Don't write tusk.
01:06:22.000 There you go.
01:06:23.000 Oh, you wrote trunk?
01:06:24.000 Why did it pull up tusk hunters for the first thing?
01:06:27.000 That's weird.
01:06:28.000 They're trying to...
01:06:28.000 Anyway, so they're cloning...
01:06:30.000 With the South Koreans, they're cloning mammoths in the hopes that they're just going to put all these clones of mammoths up there and it's going to freeze the permafrost. 0.99
01:06:39.000 Wouldn't it just make more shit and more dead animals, which makes more methane? 0.99
01:06:43.000 I'm so confused. 1.00
01:06:44.000 Well... 0.99
01:06:46.000 The amount that they would make versus the amount of methane that's going to be released from the permafrost, which has been collecting this shit for fucking millions of years, is de minimis. 0.98
01:06:55.000 So the idea is, they're going to go up there, they're going to eat the fuck out of all the vegetation, and that will cool the area down. 0.98
01:07:02.000 Correct.
01:07:02.000 Wow.
01:07:03.000 Correct.
01:07:05.000 Why don't they just make ice cubes and just dump them out of helicopters? 0.99
01:07:08.000 That seems like just as good of an idea. 1.00
01:07:10.000 There's another guy we need for our council is this fucking crazy Russian dude who's just up there saying, fuck it, let's get some mammoths to fix us. 1.00
01:07:18.000 And that'll get you 60% of the way there, but still 40% fucked. 1.00
01:07:21.000 No, with mammoths we get 90%. 0.98
01:07:23.000 Oh, so the elk and the deer will get you 60%?
01:07:26.000 There it is.
01:07:27.000 There you go.
01:07:28.000 There's the trunk.
01:07:29.000 Wow, that is so crazy.
01:07:30.000 See?
01:07:31.000 Yeah, they have a good chance of successfully cloning.
01:07:33.000 They have South Koreans and the Russians. 0.87
01:07:35.000 And the Russians are moving very fast on this because they realize that if permafrost melts, they're screwed.
01:07:41.000 So do they keep this thing in a frozen room?
01:07:43.000 They do.
01:07:44.000 We filmed it.
01:07:44.000 We filmed them trying to clone it.
01:07:46.000 Wow.
01:07:47.000 Yeah.
01:07:48.000 What a crazy time to be alive.
01:07:49.000 That is so amazing. 1.00
01:07:51.000 Because what's amazing about that is you're like, oh, we're fucked. 0.99
01:07:53.000 The permafrost is going to melt. 0.99
01:07:54.000 We're all doomed. 0.99
01:07:54.000 And then you're like, but we can get some fucking woolly mammoths. 0.99
01:07:58.000 If we're going to get mammoths, we need to make saber-toothed tigers, too, just for the fuck of it. 0.99
01:08:03.000 Well, there could be an argument there because you're like, well... 0.98
01:08:06.000 Who's going to eat the mammoths? 1.00
01:08:07.000 Because we actually talked to NASA and said, is this guy crazy?
01:08:09.000 Is he like Don Quixote, like tilting that windmill? 0.98
01:08:11.000 And he said, actually, the environmental or the organic solution, rather than dropping ice cubes at a helicopter, is the best solution because it used to be that 40,000 years ago this shit regulated itself, and this is when the planet was cold. 0.99
01:08:25.000 Now it's too fucking hot. 0.91
01:08:26.000 So this is a way to get back to being cold, so it actually makes sense. 0.93
01:08:30.000 Wow, we need that guy.
01:08:32.000 We need that dude.
01:08:32.000 He's on our council.
01:08:33.000 We need some people from other countries that are going to get mad at us. 0.90
01:08:37.000 Because, well, maybe we shouldn't. 0.99
01:08:39.000 Maybe we should just have our fucking country figure this out. 0.99
01:08:41.000 Maybe it's too impossible. 0.99
01:08:43.000 Maybe it's too much wheel spinning to fix the world.
01:08:45.000 I think you need other people.
01:08:49.000 We need some chicks. 1.00
01:08:50.000 Come on.
01:08:50.000 Gotta get some chicks on there.
01:08:51.000 Chicks are going to get pissed. 1.00
01:08:52.000 They're already marching, dude. 0.97
01:08:54.000 We need chicks on our council. 1.00
01:08:55.000 Dude, I agree.
01:08:55.000 Who do we got?
01:08:56.000 Mmm.
01:08:57.000 Nobody.
01:08:57.000 No, come on.
01:08:58.000 Unfortunately.
01:08:58.000 Come on.
01:08:59.000 Oprah?
01:08:59.000 Oprah.
01:09:00.000 Maybe.
01:09:01.000 Maybe.
01:09:01.000 You know what Oprah's good at?
01:09:03.000 You know what?
01:09:03.000 You just hit the nail on the head.
01:09:05.000 Because she's great at sort of...
01:09:07.000 Super popular.
01:09:07.000 No, she's great at getting a message across.
01:09:10.000 She's great at saying, hey, this is the thing, and this is why it's happening. 0.99
01:09:14.000 So Taylor goes, oh shit, you know, we've got this reactor that we can do that costs 10 bucks. 0.99
01:09:21.000 And then she goes, okay, this is why we're doing it. 0.99
01:09:23.000 Okay, so who else?
01:09:24.000 What other checks?
01:09:26.000 Oprah's very good.
01:09:27.000 I like that as our politician.
01:09:29.000 Wouldn't we get mad when you call them chicks yet? 1.00
01:09:31.000 Is that still okay? 0.94
01:09:32.000 When do I become a pig for calling them chicks? 0.88
01:09:35.000 Yeah, it's not good. 0.94
01:09:36.000 It's not good to call them chicks?
01:09:38.000 Why is it good to call Joe Biden a dude?
01:09:41.000 He's a good dude.
01:09:42.000 Isn't that alright?
01:09:43.000 Yeah, he's a good dude.
01:09:44.000 So why isn't it okay to call Hillary Clinton?
01:09:46.000 Well, she's a fiery chick. 1.00
01:09:47.000 I think it's good when you're calling people like, you know, with their buddies and their friends and stuff.
01:09:51.000 What about anyone under 30?
01:09:53.000 I'm not getting into it.
01:09:54.000 Can we call women under 30 chicks? 0.79
01:09:56.000 I think they like it.
01:09:57.000 But I think we need another international, we need an international person.
01:10:02.000 Ayaan Hirsi Ali?
01:10:04.000 Alright.
01:10:05.000 That's good.
01:10:06.000 There you go.
01:10:06.000 Yeah?
01:10:07.000 Yeah.
01:10:07.000 She would be amazing with foreign relations and understanding people of religious ideologies.
01:10:14.000 Yeah.
01:10:16.000 Okay.
01:10:16.000 Good.
01:10:17.000 Who else?
01:10:18.000 Now the super liberals get mad at you for that. 0.91
01:10:21.000 She's an Islamophobe! 1.00
01:10:23.000 Isn't that hilarious?
01:10:24.000 Have you read any of the criticisms of her?
01:10:26.000 No.
01:10:28.000 It's people that just go so far left. 1.00
01:10:30.000 They've spun around and their nose is up the right's ass. 0.99
01:10:33.000 They're so confused. 0.98
01:10:34.000 Well, that's the one thing is the left goes so far left that the right and the right's going so far.
01:10:38.000 Everyone's going crazy.
01:10:39.000 Everyone battles it out.
01:10:39.000 You know, it's like this Black Lives Matter going after the Women's March thing.
01:10:44.000 Like, everybody relax.
01:10:46.000 On one hand, though, I got to admit, though, I read the thing and I was like, why would they complain about people supporting this Women's March?
01:10:52.000 Why would they complain about something good?
01:10:53.000 And then the other part of me went, well, imagine if you were them.
01:10:57.000 Imagine if you were them, you're protesting against people getting shot and killed by cops, and you're trying to make a movement out of that, and you don't get near the kind of traction, nor near the kind of positive press.
01:11:09.000 Then, the other part of me goes back to the Women's March, you go, you know what's crazy about the Women's March? 0.94
01:11:13.000 Not a single fucking arrest all across the country. 0.95
01:11:15.000 Yeah, it was apparently super good vibes. 0.99
01:11:17.000 That's amazing.
01:11:19.000 And cops were wearing pink hats.
01:11:21.000 That's pretty good.
01:11:21.000 With cat ears.
01:11:22.000 They're called pussy hats. 1.00
01:11:23.000 Right. 0.98
01:11:24.000 Get it?
01:11:24.000 Meow.
01:11:25.000 So they have these fucking cats were wearing, or cops, rather, were wearing them. 1.00
01:11:28.000 And women were taking pictures with these cops. 1.00
01:11:30.000 I think that's important because, you know, you sit there and you say, okay, look, you know, people can do this and we can do it peacefully and we can do it rationally.
01:11:36.000 And we're all, at the end of the day, we're all...
01:11:39.000 In the same boat.
01:11:40.000 And we're all just people.
01:11:42.000 Do you think there's enough people that aren't racist that you could pull something like that off?
01:11:47.000 Do you think it's more common to be racist than it is to be sexist?
01:11:54.000 You know?
01:11:55.000 I will say the universe does things for a reason, I think.
01:12:00.000 And I have two amazing daughters, and it changed my life.
01:12:03.000 And it changed the way I view the world, and it changed the way I see things.
01:12:07.000 And that's why I look at that march, and I say that's a great thing.
01:12:12.000 You know, it definitely, you know, it alters, you know, how you think about things, for sure. 0.97
01:12:17.000 It also alters how you think about the future, because a lot of people are like, fuck Lobo Ryan, it's not gonna fucking do anything in my... 0.98
01:12:23.000 Right. 1.00
01:12:24.000 But when you have kids, all of a sudden you're like, shit. 1.00
01:12:27.000 I want my kid to go swimming. 1.00
01:12:29.000 I want my kid to go outside.
01:12:31.000 You don't want to leave him in a nightmare.
01:12:32.000 You don't want to leave him in a nightmare.
01:12:33.000 We're adults. 1.00
01:12:34.000 We've got to pick up our own shit here. 0.99
01:12:37.000 In any case, I think it's a good idea. 0.98
01:12:39.000 I think we will submit our Council of Elders idea to the world via the internet and see if we get a billion votes, then I think everybody has to adopt it.
01:12:51.000 And then we get to sort of be special advisors.
01:12:55.000 I seriously think this could actually happen one day.
01:12:58.000 It might not happen in our lives. 0.94
01:13:00.000 You know who's a good politician that people like and would fucking follow in his good vibes? 0.97
01:13:03.000 Ron Paul. 0.98
01:13:04.000 Joe Biden.
01:13:05.000 Oh, maybe.
01:13:06.000 You know, Joe Biden, we used to have Joe Biden night at Stitch's Comedy Club back in Boston where we would plagiarize each other's material because Joe Biden got busted doing Kennedy speeches when he was running for president back in 88. Really?
01:13:18.000 Yeah.
01:13:18.000 Everybody's kind of forgot about that.
01:13:20.000 He seems like a fairly decent dude, although a little odd.
01:13:23.000 Yeah.
01:13:24.000 They're all odd.
01:13:25.000 You want a little bit odd, though.
01:13:26.000 But you know what? 0.99
01:13:27.000 When they were vice president, you're like, all he has to do is fucking smile. 0.98
01:13:30.000 You know, nobody blames him for anything. 0.98
01:13:34.000 The memes are amazing.
01:13:35.000 I like the memes.
01:13:35.000 Come on.
01:13:35.000 My favorite one.
01:13:36.000 I think that made him...
01:13:37.000 If the memes had come out before the election, he could have won that with a...
01:13:41.000 My favorite one was Biden throwing his head back laughing.
01:13:45.000 He goes, and then I said to Hillary, you did the same thing Monica did. 1.00
01:13:49.000 You blew it. 0.69
01:13:50.000 And then Obama says, you know she kills people, right?
01:13:58.000 Yeah, it's that picture. 0.77
01:13:59.000 It's that picture.
01:14:00.000 And then they use that with a bunch of them.
01:14:02.000 Oh, my God.
01:14:04.000 So funny.
01:14:04.000 Oh, my God.
01:14:05.000 So good.
01:14:06.000 Oh, God.
01:14:08.000 All right.
01:14:09.000 It's interesting.
01:14:10.000 But I think that what I'm saying about technology is...
01:14:14.000 I think we're way more connected as human beings than we ever have been before. 0.94
01:14:18.000 And I think a lot of this crazy super social justice warrior progressive shit that you're seeing today where it's getting... 0.97
01:14:25.000 The far, far, far outreaches of it are so out of hand. 0.83
01:14:28.000 I think all of this is possible and all of this is because of this newfound opportunity we have to communicate with each other that just previously just didn't exist.
01:14:37.000 So I've got a question for you.
01:14:38.000 Okay.
01:14:39.000 So, you look at...
01:14:41.000 I agree with you.
01:14:42.000 Like, we have this ability to connect all day, every day.
01:14:45.000 And we are.
01:14:46.000 My point is it's going to get crazier.
01:14:48.000 And we are connected.
01:14:49.000 It's going to get more and more connected.
01:14:50.000 Yes.
01:14:50.000 This is just the beginning, I think.
01:14:52.000 Have you seen this augmented reality business?
01:14:54.000 Yes.
01:14:55.000 Yes.
01:14:55.000 Like, you see that and you're like, oh, what we have now is, I mean, rudimentary.
01:14:59.000 And that's two years out, three years out. 0.71
01:15:01.000 And once people start submitting to some sort of a lens in their eye, I mean, that's going to goddamn happen.
01:15:06.000 People are already getting lenses in their eyes that repair their vision.
01:15:09.000 I have friends that have lenses.
01:15:11.000 I have my friend Steve.
01:15:13.000 He just got...
01:15:14.000 I have two friends, Steve, that have had eye operations. 0.99
01:15:17.000 But my friend Steve just got a fucking artificial lens. 0.97
01:15:19.000 He had a ripped cornea and they put an artificial lens over his eye. 0.99
01:15:23.000 We did a piece on it. 0.99
01:15:23.000 It's fucking insane. 0.99
01:15:24.000 Yeah, I mean, he's not even like a martial artist or anything. 0.99
01:15:27.000 He's just a regular guy that had an eye problem.
01:15:29.000 And they're starting to do this on people, and it's going to accelerate. 0.98
01:15:32.000 They're doing all sorts of crazy shit now. 0.83
01:15:34.000 Well, when you see augmented reality... 0.95
01:15:36.000 I don't know if everybody knows what it is, but right now it's glasses.
01:15:41.000 And once you get over the fact, which is weird, that it's like holograms inside your eyeball.
01:15:47.000 Yeah.
01:15:48.000 Like, they put them in. 0.99
01:15:49.000 Now, I'm like, I'm a fucking, like, germaphobe freak. 1.00
01:15:53.000 And I'm like, oh shit, that's going to give me cancer of the fucking eyeball. 1.00
01:15:56.000 But apparently it's not. 1.00
01:15:57.000 But in any case, after you get over that fear, you're like, oh, you put these things on.
01:16:01.000 It's this room, right?
01:16:02.000 And you're like, oh, there's a TV and you're watching TV in your room.
01:16:05.000 Okay, great.
01:16:06.000 And they're like, but it's only a TV because your brain is used to it being a TV. When you get used to it, we'll just flip a button and you're on the 50-yard line.
01:16:15.000 It can be anything.
01:16:16.000 It can be any size.
01:16:17.000 You can do the art in the room.
01:16:19.000 Now, that's for TV watching.
01:16:20.000 It was developed for a media thing.
01:16:23.000 It could be movies or TV. But they're like, oh, it could be your phone, it could be your computer, it could be everything.
01:16:29.000 So everything is going to be in your glasses.
01:16:31.000 A camera, everything.
01:16:32.000 You control it with this little thing.
01:16:34.000 And it's...
01:16:35.000 So you're going to be...
01:16:36.000 You know, all your media is there.
01:16:39.000 Your phone is there.
01:16:40.000 Your computer is there.
01:16:41.000 Everything's there.
01:16:41.000 And it's just this connectivity that's always there.
01:16:44.000 It's always on. 0.99
01:16:44.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.99
01:16:46.000 Now, there's all kinds of ethical things. 0.98
01:16:48.000 And how's that going to change humanity?
01:16:49.000 All that stuff.
01:16:49.000 But who cares?
01:16:50.000 It's going to happen because technology is there and it's fucking better than a phone. 0.86
01:16:55.000 Now, once that connectivity happens, to go back to your point, there's a power in there for positivity and all this stuff.
01:17:03.000 But if you look at, for example, social media, you know, one of the things that is destroying Twitter is they can't keep, and by the way, the fake news on Facebook and all this stuff, they can't police it.
01:17:16.000 It's too many people. 0.95
01:17:17.000 It's too many people, too much shit, and it's like bad people, it's this people, and everybody's got an opinion. 1.00
01:17:22.000 And by the way, when you're across the table, the reason why we eat, the reason why we have feasts, the reason why we do all this shit is because when you're eating together, you form social bonds and all this shit, and you're like, oh, I'm not going to kill you because we had a beer together or whatever. 0.99
01:17:34.000 But when you don't, and it's just this anonymous, I can say and do whatever the fuck I want, it just becomes like... 0.99
01:17:41.000 Crazy. 0.96
01:17:42.000 And it becomes fun for people. 1.00
01:17:44.000 They're Bob-55-2-2-8 asshole, and then they decide to fuck with you. 1.00
01:17:49.000 It's fun for them. 1.00
01:17:50.000 It's a little game.
01:17:51.000 I was listening to this Radiolab pod.
01:17:55.000 No, it was an article I was reading.
01:17:56.000 That's what it was.
01:17:56.000 And it was about this guy who had been stalked online by his friend's son.
01:18:05.000 And they were, I mean, it got to the point where this guy was just, they were doing all, he was doing all sorts of horrible shit and sending them horrible, evil messages. 0.89
01:18:15.000 They were terrified. 0.93
01:18:16.000 They were all having horrible anxiety.
01:18:18.000 And it turned out that it was his friend's son.
01:18:20.000 Why?
01:18:21.000 The FBI found, for fun. 0.74
01:18:23.000 He didn't think about what he broke down crying when they confronted him and it was it was awful, but it was like wow There's like some sort of weird perverse thing that people enjoy doing just fucking with someone as a game And that all takes place because of that lack of social interaction, 0.86
01:18:38.000 right?
01:18:39.000 The problem with that is is as those tools let's say augmented reality get more and more powerful than that sort of Unless it's unless we look at that aspect of it. 0.98
01:18:50.000 We're all fucked Maybe. 0.95
01:18:52.000 Maybe not, though. 0.99
01:18:53.000 You and I are going to be able to have this conversation where we're nowhere near each other, exactly the same way that we're having it right now.
01:19:00.000 We're going to be able to look at each other in the eye and have this kind of a conversation, and you're going to represent you.
01:19:05.000 There's going to be some sort of a video version of you that I will not be able to distinguish from you, and you'll be sitting there right now.
01:19:11.000 It won't be much different other than physical contact.
01:19:13.000 There's an interesting point though, which is when humans are hungry and thirsty, our immediate reaction is no.
01:19:23.000 And when we're fed and when we're a bit boozed up, the reaction is yes, which is why everyone says let's have a business lunch or a business dinner or whatever.
01:19:32.000 And also if you look at how we socialize with the family, how we socialize with each other, if you actually look back At your history and say, oh, I'm that guy's buddy, or I'm, you know, my family, whatever.
01:19:42.000 If you look back at the majority of the positive memories that you have, they're generally, you know, we got Thanksgiving with the family, or Christmas with this, or we got drunk with this guy, or we had burgers late at night, or whatever it is.
01:19:52.000 Because that's, you get these sort of endorphin, you know, rushes, and oh, we're bonding.
01:19:57.000 So I think once you take that out, and I, it's interesting, because I was talking to someone the other day, I was saying...
01:20:06.000 The more technology gets sophisticated, the more you kind of have to fly.
01:20:12.000 Because to have that meeting, like we have the technology, I can call you.
01:20:16.000 But now you have to fly and you have to have the meal.
01:20:19.000 Because if you're doing a big deal with somebody and you don't do that, even though it doesn't make any sense at all, it's become a thing.
01:20:28.000 Everyone's flying way more, ironically, because the technology is seen as...
01:20:33.000 Non-effective.
01:20:34.000 So is that in the world of business?
01:20:35.000 Yeah.
01:20:35.000 No kidding.
01:20:36.000 Yeah.
01:20:37.000 Wow, I didn't see that coming.
01:20:38.000 But it totally makes sense.
01:20:40.000 Yeah.
01:20:41.000 It completely makes sense.
01:20:42.000 I feel much different about people when I meet them.
01:20:44.000 Yeah.
01:20:44.000 You know, and not meeting them even for a while, even being in communication for a long time without meeting them, you sort of disassociate.
01:20:51.000 Yeah.
01:20:52.000 It doesn't feel the same.
01:20:53.000 Correct.
01:20:53.000 Yeah.
01:20:54.000 It makes sense.
01:20:55.000 Totally does.
01:20:56.000 Because that's how we interacted forever.
01:20:58.000 I wonder if that same feeling will happen when you're dealing with someone in a 3D form, like a hologram that's indistinguishable.
01:21:06.000 It's interesting.
01:21:06.000 And it's coming rapidly.
01:21:08.000 I mean, the technology's here now.
01:21:10.000 It's just how quick can they make it into a thing that everybody can buy?
01:21:14.000 Yeah, how quick can they?
01:21:16.000 And what form will it take?
01:21:18.000 Because we're just extrapolating from what they have right now.
01:21:21.000 Who knows what form is going to be available.
01:21:24.000 Google already has their contact lens thing.
01:21:26.000 And nobody thought this whole thing was going to happen in the first place, this augmented reality.
01:21:30.000 This wasn't something discussed 20 years ago.
01:21:32.000 It was always virtual reality.
01:21:34.000 Correct.
01:21:35.000 Yeah, it wasn't reality.
01:21:36.000 And it might just skip.
01:21:37.000 It might just go to augmented.
01:21:39.000 It could go to something even crazier than that.
01:21:41.000 It could go to some sort of a recreation of life that is imparted into your brain.
01:21:50.000 This is literally a hologram that's an individualized hologram on the inside of your eye.
01:21:57.000 Yeah, it's like projecting on your eyelid.
01:21:59.000 Yeah.
01:21:59.000 Or on your eyeball.
01:22:00.000 Eyeball.
01:22:00.000 Yeah.
01:22:01.000 But what I'm thinking is something even crazier than that, where you close your eyes and you're transported, you know, like, what was that movie with Arnold's work?
01:22:08.000 Total Recall style.
01:22:09.000 Right.
01:22:09.000 You know, like, you just shot into this new place.
01:22:12.000 Yeah.
01:22:13.000 That seems to me to not be far off.
01:22:15.000 I just see where they're going as far as their ability to send signals from brain to brain through the internet.
01:22:21.000 Do you want to know what is...
01:22:24.000 Being worked on and theoretically possible.
01:22:27.000 What?
01:22:29.000 So interstellar space travel is hard and impossible because people will die before they get to where they're supposed to be going and all this stuff.
01:22:40.000 So, theoretically, what we can do is we can, you know, have clones in other places, and you download your brain into, like, a computer.
01:22:55.000 You send that Brain to another computer through laser beam traveling at the speed of light, and then it gets downloaded into the clone on the other side of the thing.
01:23:05.000 Now that's obviously highly theoretical.
01:23:07.000 You know what's going to happen?
01:23:07.000 You're going to have a whole country filled with Donald Trump, like one billion Trumps.
01:23:12.000 He's just going to fucking keep recreating himself over and over and over again. 0.99
01:23:15.000 Right. 0.98
01:23:16.000 And people are going to make more than one version of themselves.
01:23:19.000 There's going to be walls everywhere.
01:23:20.000 It's gonna be a real problem. 0.99
01:23:21.000 You come home, there's 15 of you in your house, you know, and they all want to watch the game and scream the same things, and you're competing to see who says the witty shit first. 0.98
01:23:29.000 Well, this is another interesting thing. 0.97
01:23:30.000 This is another interesting thing, because technology...
01:23:34.000 When we go back to sanity versus insanity.
01:23:36.000 So for example, right now we have CRISPR technology where you can edit the genome, right?
01:23:42.000 Right.
01:23:42.000 You can go in and edit the genome.
01:23:44.000 So you can go in and say, well, I want to edit out the cancer thing.
01:23:48.000 Like when you're going to have a kid and then you can say, well, hey, they're not going to have downs or they're not going to have the... 0.98
01:23:53.000 You're like, fuck yeah, that sounds good. 0.97
01:23:55.000 But, you know, put in cancer and make them, you know, 6'4 and, you know, this and that and the other thing. 0.99
01:24:00.000 Put out, take out the cancer.
01:24:01.000 Right, right.
01:24:02.000 And so because of that, we said, okay, well, we're not going to do that because we're playing God and all this stuff.
01:24:09.000 But they have places in China already where they're going to do that.
01:24:14.000 Now, if you extrapolate, because they're already experimenting on human fetuses. 0.82
01:24:18.000 But if you extrapolate and you say, okay, they start doing this and everybody comes out genius plus IQ and seven feet tall and super strong and whatever...
01:24:29.000 It's kind of an arms race.
01:24:31.000 Yes. 0.95
01:24:31.000 And you're going to say, well, Gattaca be damned, like we're going to have to compete. 0.95
01:24:37.000 And that's when you don't see like, oh, this technology. 0.80
01:24:40.000 We're like, when you're logical, say, wow, we can't mess with this.
01:24:42.000 Because it's funny because they do things like...
01:24:46.000 Oh, they were checking on how butterflies see color, and they used CRISPR to change, like, one thing.
01:24:51.000 And then all of a sudden, the butterfly, monarch butterfly, just became all white.
01:24:55.000 And, like, they're, you know, things shrunk or whatever. 0.77
01:24:57.000 Because, like, you're playing God, and you're like, one thing makes all this other shit happen. 0.50
01:25:02.000 And so, but that's happening now. 0.78
01:25:04.000 Yeah.
01:25:04.000 That's happening today.
01:25:05.000 They're actually doing it.
01:25:06.000 Yeah.
01:25:07.000 Yeah.
01:25:08.000 And what if they do it with woolly mammoths? 0.88
01:25:09.000 They say, you know what?
01:25:09.000 We could whack this all the way up to 100 if we make a super mammoth.
01:25:13.000 And they start making super mammoths with three dicks.
01:25:16.000 It's going to be real strange in 100 years. 0.93
01:25:19.000 I mean, we're not going to be able to see.
01:25:21.000 Unless science keeps us alive.
01:25:24.000 Well, that's the other thing, is they're saying now, with advances in medicine, that the kids being born today are going to live into their hundreds.
01:25:31.000 Yeah, I've heard that, that they're going to live to be 150 years old.
01:25:35.000 That's going to be really common.
01:25:36.000 But the thing is, that's just saying that today.
01:25:39.000 They might come up with something in five years from now that makes people go back, like reverse aging.
01:25:44.000 That's entirely possible.
01:25:45.000 I mean, it's just a process.
01:25:46.000 It's a biological process.
01:25:48.000 If you can stay alive...
01:25:50.000 Long enough for them to figure that out, how to turn it back.
01:25:53.000 And, you know, that's the real playing god.
01:25:55.000 Turn you back, go back to when you were younger, and then you're going to be a younger you dealing with a new super race that's been developed, where everyone is 300 pounds of solid muscle, and every Olympic wrestling match is between two enormous gorillas. 0.97
01:26:14.000 And we're all going to be fighting AI sort of...
01:26:17.000 War against the Terminator bots.
01:26:19.000 It's going to be incredibly strange.
01:26:21.000 What is that?
01:26:22.000 Aging is reversible, at least in human cells and live mice.
01:26:26.000 Changes to gene activity that occur with age can be turned back in new study shows.
01:26:30.000 Jesus Christ!
01:26:31.000 Longevity can be turned back.
01:26:33.000 I'll tell you what's going to happen. 0.99
01:26:34.000 Old ladies are going to be out getting dick like crazy. 1.00
01:26:37.000 That's what's going to be happening. 0.99
01:26:39.000 They're going to turn 20 and then they're going to be on a rampage. 1.00
01:26:42.000 They're going to just hit the clubs and fuck everybody. 1.00
01:26:45.000 Well, I've got to tell you, you know this, that your evolutionary clock stops at 40. At 40, you don't continue on saying, oh, we're going to try this and ourselves will keep on making new shit. 1.00
01:26:57.000 It just stops. 0.97
01:26:59.000 And if you could go in and say, I'm going to go to the clinic and keep my evolutionary clock ticking, would you do it?
01:27:06.000 Well, anything that made me feel better.
01:27:08.000 Yeah.
01:27:08.000 That's how I feel.
01:27:09.000 I mean, you know, people say, well, that's really selfish and you'll stay around forever and use up all the resources. 1.00
01:27:14.000 That's not up to you, bitch. 1.00
01:27:16.000 And here's the other problem with that. 1.00
01:27:18.000 Like when 500 years ago, everybody died at 20. You know, nobody fucking lived to be today. 0.98
01:27:24.000 Like being 49 was impossible back then. 0.99
01:27:27.000 It was incredibly rare.
01:27:27.000 And they were tiny, tiny people.
01:27:28.000 Yeah, tiny people that didn't eat that much.
01:27:31.000 Yeah, I would do it.
01:27:32.000 Yeah, I would do it selfishly.
01:27:34.000 Or would I do it?
01:27:35.000 I would do it just because it would be a better experience.
01:27:38.000 Like if they all of a sudden gave you something and your immune system worked better, your body fat was lower, you had more vitality, you got more things done, you're more energetic, and you don't have to lose any experience.
01:27:52.000 You don't have to lose any understanding of the world.
01:27:54.000 You don't lose your faculties.
01:27:55.000 Right.
01:27:56.000 Yeah, why wouldn't I do it? 1.00
01:27:57.000 I'll take vitamins too, stupid. 0.99
01:27:58.000 That's the thing with technology, is that they're going to try to hold it back, but it's just going to get there. 1.00
01:28:05.000 Yeah, I don't think they're going to hold it back.
01:28:06.000 I don't think they can hold it back.
01:28:08.000 Yeah, well, I think the China factor is huge, because I think if China really does start doing that with CRISPR and make these super athletes and super humans and make people that are just infinitely smarter than what we have today, that...
01:28:20.000 That also plays into my idea of technology-induced evolution.
01:28:25.000 I think symbiotically introduced, where it's like human beings interacting with technology, but I think also that technology being applied to our biological being.
01:28:35.000 All that stuff is going to happen.
01:28:36.000 Did you ever read Neuromancer?
01:28:39.000 Oh God, why did I? It was a while ago, but basically he prophesied...
01:28:44.000 Was that Lovecraft?
01:28:45.000 No, it's...
01:28:46.000 Look up Neuromancer.
01:28:48.000 It's a Canadian guy.
01:28:50.000 But he's...
01:28:52.000 There it is.
01:28:52.000 William Gibson.
01:28:53.000 William Gibson.
01:28:54.000 There you go.
01:28:54.000 84. Oh, 84. Wow.
01:28:56.000 But basically, he sort of foresaw all of this stuff happening.
01:29:02.000 And by the way, it's interesting because he gets credited with a lot of the tech stuff because a lot of people who were in college read him and then used those ideas to invent the things that are coming out now.
01:29:14.000 Oh, that's cool.
01:29:15.000 Yeah.
01:29:16.000 That's amazing.
01:29:16.000 I wonder what drugs he took.
01:29:19.000 Probably good ones, huh? 1.00
01:29:20.000 If you ever read it, you're like, holy shit. 0.99
01:29:23.000 He called it all. 0.99
01:29:25.000 I feel like I read it, but I think I read it right out of high school.
01:29:28.000 It's been so long.
01:29:29.000 It's one of those distant ones.
01:29:31.000 But I love the fact that these people who are creative people are the ones that have come up with a lot of these ideas.
01:29:39.000 There was a thing about H.G. Wells and all the different things that H.G. Wells predicted.
01:29:43.000 People would read it and say, actually, that's not so crazy.
01:29:46.000 Well, that's how things get started.
01:29:48.000 It's just they can't do it. 0.58
01:29:49.000 All the shit we're talking about now, just you and I talking about potential technologies, those thoughts between people like you and I that are not technologically savvy at all, those thoughts can get into the mind of someone who is, and then they can project that idea in their own way and start working on it. 0.97
01:30:09.000 It's going to be a huge revolution, and then they'll say, Joe and Shane, the Council of Elders, we made it. 0.98
01:30:15.000 We made the Council of Elders.
01:30:16.000 Imagine if it all boils down, civilization in the future, after the Mad Max days, it all boils down to this conversation.
01:30:22.000 It's like the Wild Stallions.
01:30:24.000 How's it like the Wild Stallions?
01:30:26.000 I agree with you without even thinking about it.
01:30:27.000 It's Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
01:30:29.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
01:30:31.000 They saved the world.
01:30:34.000 Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
01:30:37.000 Yeah.
01:30:37.000 Yeah.
01:30:39.000 Do we have enough people?
01:30:41.000 We only picked one woman. 0.99
01:30:43.000 We need more women. 1.00
01:30:44.000 Who else?
01:30:45.000 I like Martha Stewart.
01:30:46.000 I enjoy her on that Snoop Dogg show. 0.78
01:30:48.000 She's cool.
01:30:49.000 She's a hell of a woman. 1.00
01:30:50.000 And she also doesn't give a shit. 1.00
01:30:51.000 Put her in, coach. 0.99
01:30:53.000 Yeah, she's good.
01:30:54.000 She's good. 0.99
01:30:55.000 She doesn't give a shit. 1.00
01:30:55.000 I like people who don't give a shit. 1.00
01:30:57.000 People just threw their fucking papers up in the air. 1.00
01:30:58.000 That's it. 1.00
01:30:59.000 He just fucking elected Martha Stewart. 1.00
01:31:01.000 This guy's an asshole. 1.00
01:31:02.000 I'm not listening to this podcast anymore. 1.00
01:31:04.000 I like Martha Stewart because she's been to jail. 1.00
01:31:06.000 Yes. 0.99
01:31:07.000 She's fucking down, dude. 1.00
01:31:08.000 I always say, like, if you've done shit and seen things, then you're a much better ruler than somebody who's never done anything. 1.00
01:31:19.000 Right. 0.99
01:31:20.000 I like her.
01:31:21.000 Yeah.
01:31:22.000 So by that logic, who else? 0.99
01:31:24.000 Who else has done shit and seen things that you like to throw in the mix? 0.99
01:31:30.000 Hmm. 0.99
01:31:32.000 I mean, it's hard because you're searching your databases.
01:31:35.000 There's a lot of different people out there who are sort of admirable.
01:31:40.000 Again, I mean, well, there's a lot.
01:31:45.000 Yeah, we'd have to really sit down.
01:31:48.000 If someone was going to really formulate something along these lines, you'd have to really think it through.
01:31:53.000 But, not impossible. 0.99
01:31:55.000 And a better solution than this fucking mess. 1.00
01:31:59.000 This presidential mess is ridiculous. 1.00
01:32:01.000 You know, and it's also, this is going to sound fucked up, but I don't think everybody should be allowed to vote. 0.99
01:32:11.000 I think you should have to prove in some way that you have an understanding of what you're saying in order to be able to vote. 0.94
01:32:17.000 The problem with that, of course, is who the hell gets to decide that?
01:32:20.000 Yeah, that's the problem. 0.99
01:32:21.000 But if you have someone who's mentally deranged and they just haven't committed a crime yet and you read what they have to say about life and about people and they're racist and sexist and crazy. 0.98
01:32:30.000 But here's the problem with that. 0.98
01:32:32.000 And I agree with you.
01:32:33.000 There's a lot of problems with that.
01:32:34.000 But it's also problematic because here's the problem that's happening.
01:32:38.000 It happens all over the world, but let's say in America.
01:32:42.000 We're good to go.
01:32:56.000 And so you sit there and say, hold on a second here. 0.99
01:32:59.000 Half the country believes that crazy people in California and New York voted, and then now I in Texas and Oklahoma have to fucking suffer. 0.95
01:33:08.000 And the other half of the people are saying, hold on a second, these people in Oklahoma and Texas and Ohio... 1.00
01:33:14.000 Voted and now I have to fucking, you know, listen to all this shit. 1.00
01:33:18.000 And so that therein lies the rub. 1.00
01:33:20.000 Yeah.
01:33:21.000 Because to go back to it, you say, okay, if...
01:33:24.000 Now, hear me out.
01:33:25.000 If you had your security and economic security...
01:33:33.000 Like, solidified.
01:33:33.000 It was there.
01:33:35.000 Wouldn't it be more democratic to just say, okay, Texas is Texas and California is...
01:33:40.000 That's what it used to be anyways.
01:33:42.000 The United States was the state's rights and all this stuff. 1.00
01:33:44.000 Because the minute it happened, California's like, fuck it. 0.99
01:33:48.000 That just split off. 1.00
01:33:49.000 We want our pot.
01:33:49.000 You know what I mean?
01:33:50.000 Well, it would be interesting because you were talking about with other countries, having small, more manageable groups is more democratic.
01:33:57.000 It's more democratic.
01:33:58.000 It's more democratic.
01:33:59.000 Not a bad idea in the current state that we exist in.
01:34:02.000 Not a bad idea to run things that way. 0.99
01:34:05.000 If it's dysfunctional, in fact, it's worse than dysfunctional, you're just going back to undo what they just did, why wouldn't you just say, fuck it, California's going to go off and do our own thing, and Texas is going to do its thing, and Oklahoma's going to do its thing, and by the way, if you don't like it in Oklahoma, you can move to fucking California. 0.97
01:34:19.000 Yeah, and how about less reliance? 0.98
01:34:21.000 Much, much, much, much less reliance on a federal government, because it's not necessary.
01:34:26.000 And it doesn't work.
01:34:26.000 Yeah, and it doesn't work, but state government does.
01:34:29.000 It works better, because it's smaller and more democratic.
01:34:32.000 Yeah.
01:34:33.000 I mean, it's sort of tribes.
01:34:34.000 As long as we can keep from going to war with each other, you know.
01:34:37.000 But that's what you have to do.
01:34:38.000 If you guarantee that economic security and you guarantee that sort of, you know, political and military security, then it kind of makes a ton of sense to just say, well, if we're like-minded people in New York or LA or whatever, like, Okay, California.
01:34:53.000 What's the stat?
01:34:55.000 It's like California would be the eighth largest economy in the world.
01:34:58.000 Sixth largest economy in the world.
01:35:00.000 Look at that.
01:35:00.000 Poll shows a third of Californians favor a Cal exit from the U.S. in wake of Trump's election victory.
01:35:08.000 And they were just fucking shitting on Texas a few years ago for this idea. 0.98
01:35:12.000 By the way, I favor it because I live here. 0.99
01:35:15.000 It's God's country, but all the tech people are here, smart.
01:35:18.000 All the food is here, right?
01:35:20.000 Right.
01:35:21.000 All the money's here.
01:35:22.000 It's one of the biggest Congress in the world.
01:35:23.000 Kim Kardashian's here.
01:35:23.000 Kanye West is here.
01:35:25.000 We have all of the Kardashians, in fact.
01:35:27.000 And you can sit here and say, it's more democratic.
01:35:30.000 We can have our weed.
01:35:31.000 Yes.
01:35:32.000 You want to have CBD? Fuck it. 1.00
01:35:34.000 Let's just do the experiments tomorrow. 1.00
01:35:37.000 If Italy and France can live close to each other, why can't California and Nevada be different countries?
01:35:42.000 Right?
01:35:42.000 It's basically the same thing.
01:35:44.000 Fucking same thing. 1.00
01:35:46.000 God damn it. 1.00
01:35:46.000 We'd like to start today the California, I guess it's already started. 1.00
01:35:50.000 It's already started.
01:35:51.000 Yeah, we didn't even have to do it.
01:35:53.000 We'll run though.
01:35:54.000 Me and you will run.
01:35:55.000 What do you want to do?
01:35:55.000 On a ticket.
01:35:56.000 What do you want to be?
01:35:56.000 You want to be president of California?
01:35:58.000 I'll be vice president.
01:35:59.000 You can be president. 1.00
01:35:59.000 I'm not going to be fucking president. 1.00
01:36:00.000 You can be president. 1.00
01:36:01.000 I'll be Biden.
01:36:02.000 I don't even want to be vice president.
01:36:04.000 I'll have an honorary position.
01:36:07.000 No, no, no.
01:36:07.000 We'll be on the Council of Elders.
01:36:09.000 We're going to have a Council of Elders. 1.00
01:36:11.000 I think California's the only one kooky enough to actually say, yeah, fuck it. 1.00
01:36:14.000 We might make it, dude. 1.00
01:36:16.000 Let me tell you something.
01:36:17.000 We might win.
01:36:18.000 Yeah.
01:36:18.000 In this new era.
01:36:20.000 In this new era?
01:36:21.000 We can win.
01:36:21.000 You can't be president.
01:36:22.000 You're Canadian.
01:36:24.000 You're American now.
01:36:25.000 We have to change the laws.
01:36:26.000 But if we do, you're going to have to battle Arnold.
01:36:28.000 Because Arnold is immediately going to want to run for president.
01:36:30.000 But it's California.
01:36:30.000 California will allow it.
01:36:32.000 A little wink.
01:36:33.000 A little wink.
01:36:34.000 California will allow it.
01:36:34.000 You can be president of California.
01:36:35.000 Well, you can be governor of California, obviously.
01:36:37.000 Arnold works.
01:36:37.000 Sure.
01:36:38.000 I can be governor and then switch it over. 1.00
01:36:40.000 Or, yeah, well, when it becomes a country, then we say, well, fuck all this being born here. 1.00
01:36:45.000 It's stupid. 1.00
01:36:45.000 You have nothing to do with where you're born. 1.00
01:36:47.000 Doesn't have anything to do with where you're born.
01:36:48.000 Yeah, you didn't ask to be born in Canada.
01:36:51.000 If you did, if you could take it back, would you be born here in God's country?
01:36:56.000 If you could take it back, if you could denounce your Canadian birthright.
01:36:58.000 No, I'll tell you why.
01:37:00.000 I'm going to show you my phone case first.
01:37:01.000 I want you to think about that.
01:37:03.000 Because I think the American experience, ironically, is an immigrant experience. 0.99
01:37:09.000 I am literally the American dream.
01:37:10.000 You are.
01:37:11.000 I came here as an immigrant.
01:37:12.000 You're more American than me.
01:37:13.000 I came here as an immigrant. 1.00
01:37:16.000 I killed it. 1.00
01:37:17.000 I love it. 0.95
01:37:17.000 I love it here. 0.95
01:37:18.000 I love California. 0.97
01:37:19.000 I'm like, this is fucking awesome. 0.95
01:37:21.000 I say it to everybody. 1.00
01:37:22.000 Everybody shits on me. 1.00
01:37:23.000 I'm like, fuck you. 1.00
01:37:25.000 But look, growing up in Canada, I'm going to say it. 1.00
01:37:28.000 Great country.
01:37:28.000 Clean.
01:37:29.000 Great schools.
01:37:30.000 Nicer.
01:37:31.000 Nice people.
01:37:32.000 People are really nice.
01:37:33.000 Great.
01:37:33.000 But what I believe...
01:37:35.000 20% less douchebags. 0.95
01:37:36.000 Yeah, probably. 0.93
01:37:37.000 I think.
01:37:38.000 But I believe that... 0.99
01:37:40.000 It doesn't fucking matter where you're born. 0.99
01:37:42.000 Good call. 0.99
01:37:43.000 Like, you know what?
01:37:43.000 If you're good and you're smart and whatever, and you rise to the top, you're hardworking.
01:37:48.000 You know, this was a country built by immigrants, and then all of a sudden they're saying, well, they were the good ones, now there's bad ones. 1.00
01:37:54.000 Yeah, and even better, because you were born in Canada, you can't be president, which is a shit job in the first place. 0.99
01:38:00.000 So it makes you the ultimate American. 0.99
01:38:01.000 I don't want to be president.
01:38:02.000 You're like, hey, I'd love to be president and fix this mess, but I can't do it, guys.
01:38:05.000 Can't do it.
01:38:06.000 I was born in the wrong piece of dirt.
01:38:08.000 I can't do it. 0.99
01:38:09.000 I mean, you literally could fucking drive in a couple of hours from where you were into America. 0.99
01:38:14.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:38:15.000 I mean, it's ridiculous. 0.74
01:38:16.000 Yeah. 0.61
01:38:16.000 I mean, I am connected to Delaware in some way. 0.61
01:38:21.000 We're both in the same country.
01:38:22.000 Well, you, where you were living in Canada, is way fucking closer to the United States than me to Delaware.
01:38:29.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:38:30.000 It's all the same shit. 1.00
01:38:31.000 It's all the same landmass. 1.00
01:38:32.000 Correcto. 1.00
01:38:32.000 Goddammit, we're stupid. 1.00
01:38:34.000 Yes. 1.00
01:38:34.000 But you're more American than me, man. 1.00
01:38:36.000 You're an actual immigrant.
01:38:38.000 Yeah.
01:38:38.000 I was just lucky.
01:38:39.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:38:40.000 I got lucky that my grandparents' parents, my great-grandparents were like, fuck Italy. 1.00
01:38:45.000 Right. 0.99
01:38:45.000 And they moved over when my grandparents were little. 0.99
01:38:48.000 And Ireland, too.
01:38:49.000 Same thing.
01:38:49.000 My grandfather, great-grandfather on my father's side.
01:38:54.000 Same thing. 1.00
01:38:55.000 They all just said, fuck this place. 1.00
01:38:57.000 And they brought their kids over, and they had to figure out this new thing. 1.00
01:39:01.000 Yeah.
01:39:02.000 It was a new thing.
01:39:03.000 Yeah.
01:39:04.000 Yeah, it was a new thing.
01:39:05.000 Wide open.
01:39:05.000 Wide open.
01:39:06.000 I mean, it's still kind of a new thing.
01:39:08.000 Yeah.
01:39:08.000 Look at the history of the world.
01:39:10.000 Well, look at it, though.
01:39:10.000 Like, the tech world, everyone's coming from everywhere to here now, Silicon Beach.
01:39:17.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:39:17.000 And you're like, that's a fucking great thing. 0.98
01:39:19.000 It is a great thing. 0.98
01:39:19.000 Because you're getting all the best and smartest people coming here and giving us their knowledge. 0.98
01:39:23.000 And you're like, why is that? 0.97
01:39:24.000 That's fucking great. 0.97
01:39:25.000 You know what's really interesting, too, is they're almost universally leaning left. 0.99
01:39:30.000 If you look at all these powerful tech giants, and even social media companies like Facebook and Apple, they almost predominantly lean left despite the fact that they're worth billions of fucking dollars and they're a main driving force.
01:39:47.000 I think that this is my problem, because I don't know if they're leaning left necessarily.
01:39:56.000 Backing things that are perceived as left-leaning. 0.99
01:40:00.000 Like, for example, if you have a fucking brain, and you've talked to scientists, and you've read, and you're like, oh shit, we're up against the wall. 1.00
01:40:09.000 Like, I always say humans won't do anything to tell the fucking guns to the head. 1.00
01:40:12.000 The guns to the fucking head. 1.00
01:40:14.000 Right. 1.00
01:40:14.000 And so, if you talk to any of these people, it's like, okay... 1.00
01:40:20.000 Yes, how do we fucking fix this? 1.00
01:40:22.000 The fact that that's left or liberal, that's stupid, right? 1.00
01:40:26.000 And I don't understand it. 1.00
01:40:28.000 The other thing is you go on to pot, for example.
01:40:30.000 We all know where it's going. 0.99
01:40:31.000 Or if you want to talk about, for example, the Women's March, on civil rights, we all know where we're fucking going. 0.97
01:40:38.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:40:38.000 If you grew up as we did in the fucking modern age, civil rights, okay, we're not fucking going backwards. 0.97
01:40:45.000 Right. 0.99
01:40:45.000 How the fuck that became a fucking left thing, too? 0.99
01:40:49.000 It's like... 1.00
01:40:49.000 Crazy. 1.00
01:40:50.000 It's crazy.
01:40:50.000 How is it, I mean, how is it not a right thing as well?
01:40:53.000 It should be one thing where we all meet in the window.
01:40:55.000 One thing where we meet 100% in the middle and go, look, there can't be racism anymore. 0.98
01:40:59.000 It doesn't make any fucking sense. 0.94
01:41:01.000 It's too old. 1.00
01:41:02.000 It's too stupid. 1.00
01:41:03.000 It's just an archaic, monkey way of thinking. 1.00
01:41:06.000 It's back to our primate, tribal roots. 1.00
01:41:09.000 The fact that it's still on the fucking table. 1.00
01:41:11.000 Is this stupid? 1.00
01:41:12.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:41:12.000 It's fucking stupid. 1.00
01:41:13.000 And I feel the same way about gay rights. 1.00
01:41:15.000 I feel the exact same way.
01:41:16.000 I do too. 1.00
01:41:17.000 If you have a real problem with- I got a gay neighbor, these folks that live down the street, they have a kid, they adopted a kid, they have a fucking dog they walk by, they're the nicest fucking people in the world. 1.00
01:41:27.000 I feel like- What the fuck do you care? 1.00
01:41:28.000 They're family. 1.00
01:41:29.000 What the fuck do you care? 1.00
01:41:30.000 Why would anybody care? 1.00
01:41:31.000 Why would anybody care?
01:41:32.000 Civil rights, gay rights, you know, all of that, women's rights, pot, all of it. 0.54
01:41:37.000 We all know where we're going.
01:41:39.000 Exactly.
01:41:39.000 We all know where we're going.
01:41:40.000 So why the fuck are we having these fights and fucking... 0.99
01:41:42.000 Well, because people... 0.99
01:41:44.000 Look, I mean, what we were talking about earlier, the Black Lives Matter people upset at the women's rights movement. 0.80
01:41:48.000 Right. 0.99
01:41:48.000 The trans community upset at the women wearing vaginas. 0.99
01:41:50.000 That's because people are... 1.00
01:41:51.000 Crazy! 0.71
01:41:53.000 Fractious.
01:41:53.000 Fractious, yes.
01:41:54.000 That's a good word.
01:41:55.000 I never used it, but I'm... 0.98
01:41:56.000 Start fucking throwing it around now. 0.98
01:41:58.000 And I think that this is why we need some sanity. 0.99
01:42:00.000 Yeah.
01:42:01.000 And you need some common sense in saying, look, people, we all know where we're getting.
01:42:05.000 Let's just stop fighting each other.
01:42:07.000 We need psychedelic drugs.
01:42:09.000 That's really what we need. 1.00
01:42:10.000 I mean, that sounds stupid. 1.00
01:42:13.000 Mushrooms and PTSD. Yes. 1.00
01:42:15.000 Yeah.
01:42:16.000 Well, also MDMA and PTSD. And ayahuasca is curing a lot of people of smoking and alcoholism.
01:42:24.000 And heroin.
01:42:26.000 Yeah, and a lot of that is also because they need to get ayahuasca because dimethyltryptamine, the active compound of it, is illegal in the United States, even though your body produces it.
01:42:34.000 There's actually clinics in Mexico.
01:42:39.000 Yeah, and Ibogaine, which is an amazing one for you.
01:42:42.000 For heroin and opiates.
01:42:43.000 I'm taking Ibogaine.
01:42:44.000 Rewires the mind.
01:42:45.000 If you have someone who you know who has an opiate addiction, my friend Ed Clay, he runs a center down in Mexico, and he started it out because he had a problem with them.
01:42:56.000 He kicked them by using Ibogaine, and now he's like...
01:42:59.000 We did a story on it, and it's incredibly successful.
01:43:03.000 The guy who we followed through that, he's still clean.
01:43:05.000 It's been incredibly successful.
01:43:07.000 I mean, I don't understand why if things work.
01:43:11.000 Why we just can't say, okay.
01:43:12.000 Yeah.
01:43:13.000 Yeah.
01:43:14.000 Well, because, again, it's not on our team. 1.00
01:43:17.000 Our team is clean and Jesus and Bibles and football, and we're not taking drugs like a bunch of goddamn dirty hippies. 1.00
01:43:23.000 You want Bernie Sanders and you want drugs? 1.00
01:43:26.000 And it's also Big Pharma.
01:43:28.000 Yeah, it's that, too.
01:43:30.000 There's a lot of money.
01:43:30.000 Well, they need to get high, too.
01:43:31.000 That's part of the problem. 0.99
01:43:33.000 Part of the problem is all these fucking people that have already made a fuckload of money and they're trying to protect those investments... 0.99
01:43:38.000 Right. 1.00
01:43:59.000 There's enough fucking profit already. 0.99
01:44:01.000 There's enough. 0.99
01:44:02.000 And if you're in a business and your only way to make profit is by eating babies, and you go, look, my country, we've been eating babies over here for a long time, and we're not going to just stop eating babies.
01:44:11.000 No, you have to stop eating babies.
01:44:13.000 We know it's not good now. 1.00
01:44:14.000 And I feel the same way about fucking SeaWorld. 0.99
01:44:16.000 They need to stop having dolphins and whales and orcas in captivity. 1.00
01:44:21.000 Cut the shit. 1.00
01:44:22.000 You can't do that anymore. 1.00
01:44:24.000 There's a lot of things that we know are bad, but we allow them to go on because they've gone on for a long time.
01:44:31.000 100%.
01:44:32.000 I mean, it's across the board.
01:44:34.000 There's a lot.
01:44:35.000 And all of those, they're being exposed now.
01:44:38.000 It's one of the more interesting things about this time, is that because of all the information that's out now about opiate addictions, that's the reason why doctors prescribe less and less now.
01:44:49.000 That's the reason why they're under more and more scrutiny.
01:44:51.000 Yeah, correct.
01:44:52.000 Like Oxys and all that. 0.53
01:44:53.000 Yeah, it's not because the doctors wanted to stop.
01:44:55.000 It's not because the pharmaceutical companies wanted to stop.
01:44:57.000 It's because our information got out.
01:44:58.000 It was the most profitable drug of the last 10 years. 0.99
01:45:00.000 Yeah, and it's because guys like you and Vice got that fucking message out. 0.99
01:45:04.000 And how about fentanyl? 0.99
01:45:05.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:45:05.000 What the fuck? 1.00
01:45:06.000 I know a guy who just died of it. 1.00
01:45:07.000 Holy shit. 1.00
01:45:08.000 Yeah, I know a martial arts guy who just died of it. 1.00
01:45:11.000 That's fucking crazy. 0.99
01:45:12.000 It's way more powerful than heroin, right? 1.00
01:45:15.000 Way more powerful.
01:45:16.000 It's 400 times more powerful.
01:45:17.000 Yeah.
01:45:18.000 It's crazy. 0.99
01:45:19.000 God damn it. 1.00
01:45:20.000 Who fucking looked at oxys and went, not strong enough, bro? 1.00
01:45:25.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:45:25.000 This stuff's for pussies. 1.00
01:45:27.000 Well, the thing with fentanyl is you can take like one grain of it and then cut it into some... 0.99
01:45:33.000 To go back to your point, it's pure profit. 1.00
01:45:36.000 But the fact of the thing is people are dying like motherfuckers on it. 1.00
01:45:39.000 And you're like, holy shit. 1.00
01:45:41.000 And people didn't know that they were addicted to fentanyl until they went in to try to get treated. 1.00
01:45:47.000 And they're like, oh shit, you're not addicted to heroin. 0.99
01:45:49.000 You're addicted to fentanyl, which is even harder to kick. 1.00
01:45:53.000 God damn it. 0.99
01:45:54.000 And it's synthetic, and it's something that human beings have created. 0.99
01:45:56.000 And they've created over the last ten years, right?
01:45:59.000 And there's not a lot of data on it.
01:46:00.000 Yeah.
01:46:01.000 As far as, like, what the average person knows?
01:46:03.000 It's for, like, operating on rhinoceros. 0.98
01:46:07.000 I mean, it's super fucking strong. 0.99
01:46:10.000 It's super strong. 1.00
01:46:11.000 We're assholes. 1.00
01:46:13.000 Well, that's it, too. 1.00
01:46:15.000 Opioid overdoses are going through the roof.
01:46:17.000 It's never been higher.
01:46:19.000 Deaths have never been higher.
01:46:20.000 And we're just sitting there going, well, we're making the stuff.
01:46:23.000 We can stop making it. 0.98
01:46:24.000 Whoever is making that stuff is a monster. 0.99
01:46:27.000 If you're making that stuff, you are a monster. 0.99
01:46:29.000 Whatever company that's making that, and the fact that the government hasn't stepped in, Trump immediately steps in and fucking stops the protests in the Dakota pipeline and starts that back up again, and he doesn't do anything about fentanyl? 0.99
01:46:40.000 Fentanyl, 100%. 0.96
01:46:41.000 Get on that! 1.00
01:46:42.000 100%.
01:46:42.000 What numbers of deaths?
01:46:43.000 Jamie, pull up the numbers of deaths.
01:46:45.000 You know, maybe it's not on his table. 0.96
01:46:47.000 Maybe people aren't bringing it to him, but they goddamn should be. 0.98
01:46:50.000 It's a huge, huge problem that, you know, opioid addictions are going through the roof and deathly. 0.97
01:46:55.000 Before you pull that up, let's guess.
01:46:57.000 How many people a year do you think die from fentanyl in the United States?
01:47:00.000 Well, they just started being able to track it, but I would say 50,000.
01:47:05.000 Oh, I was going to say 19,000.
01:47:07.000 I don't know why I said 19. I would say 50,000.
01:47:09.000 Okay.
01:47:09.000 I'm going low.
01:47:10.000 He's going high.
01:47:11.000 Jamie?
01:47:13.000 What are the numbers?
01:47:15.000 Drumroll, please.
01:47:16.000 Trying to find a good number.
01:47:17.000 It's not readily out yet. 1.00
01:47:20.000 That's because the goddamn pharmaceutical companies are fucking around with the man. 0.99
01:47:23.000 Well, let's just see opioid overdoses in 2016. Well, no, no, no. 1.00
01:47:27.000 We need to specifically find out.
01:47:28.000 Let's just go with that.
01:47:29.000 Let's just see what that is.
01:47:30.000 It'll give us a ballpark.
01:47:32.000 That's gonna be a lot.
01:47:33.000 Oof.
01:47:35.000 Opioid overdoses in the United States, I'm going with 75,000.
01:47:39.000 What do you say?
01:47:40.000 I don't know.
01:47:41.000 You gotta guess.
01:47:42.000 I can't say I don't know.
01:47:44.000 I went above yours.
01:47:45.000 Okay, okay.
01:47:45.000 So we're inconsistent.
01:47:46.000 That's high, though.
01:47:47.000 Because you gotta think, like, that's overdose deaths.
01:47:49.000 Deaths.
01:47:50.000 That's a lot.
01:47:51.000 Like, that's a ton.
01:47:52.000 Right, but I bet it's probably accurate.
01:47:54.000 I mean, you think about the 350 million people, and I think there's something like 39 million that are on it.
01:48:00.000 Really?
01:48:01.000 Oh, it's something insane. 1.00
01:48:02.000 Holy shit. 1.00
01:48:02.000 Something insane. 1.00
01:48:03.000 The number of people that are on painkillers are fucking bananas. 0.99
01:48:06.000 Wow. 0.99
01:48:06.000 What do we got here? 0.99
01:48:08.000 52,000!
01:48:09.000 Bam! 1.00
01:48:10.000 You're a monster. 1.00
01:48:11.000 You fucking nailed it. 1.00
01:48:12.000 Look at you. 1.00
01:48:12.000 Well, I got 50... 1.00
01:48:13.000 Hold on.
01:48:14.000 I had 50,000 on fentanyl.
01:48:16.000 Oh, that's just drugs.
01:48:18.000 That's just drug overdoses.
01:48:20.000 And that's 15. Opioids driving this epidemic with 20,000.
01:48:23.000 Oh, so I was right.
01:48:24.000 Hollow!
01:48:25.000 There you go.
01:48:26.000 I got it.
01:48:26.000 That's 2015. 16, I believe, was like...
01:48:29.000 Higher.
01:48:29.000 Yeah, you were close.
01:48:30.000 It was 75, I think.
01:48:32.000 Jesus Christ.
01:48:32.000 So it ramped up that much?
01:48:34.000 Yeah.
01:48:34.000 Oh my God.
01:48:35.000 I believe it doubled in the past three years.
01:48:37.000 See if you can find 2016. Is that on that?
01:48:40.000 Maybe it's not out yet.
01:48:41.000 It's probably not out yet.
01:48:42.000 They're still counting up the bodies. 0.99
01:48:45.000 That's fucked up. 1.00
01:48:45.000 Jesus. 1.00
01:48:46.000 Fucking crazy. 1.00
01:48:47.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:48:47.000 It's just crazy. 1.00
01:48:49.000 And find out this.
01:48:52.000 What are the number...
01:48:53.000 They don't give you the number of people that are on them, but they'll give you the number of prescriptions for 2015 and 16 for opiates.
01:49:02.000 No.
01:49:03.000 You can get that number?
01:49:04.000 I think it's 39 million.
01:49:06.000 Jesus Christ.
01:49:07.000 I think that's what I had read, that there was 39 million prescriptions, which is 1 out of 10. But it's not really, because how many times do they refill it, right?
01:49:17.000 Is it that?
01:49:18.000 When you say someone has a prescription, are you saying it's prescribed to you, or are you saying I write you a new prescription when it runs out?
01:49:26.000 39 million people on opioids, I mean, that's a large country.
01:49:30.000 Yeah, it is.
01:49:31.000 But it's one out of ten.
01:49:33.000 It's more than one out of ten if it's per person.
01:49:39.000 Yeah.
01:49:40.000 I don't think it is per person, though.
01:49:41.000 I think it's per prescription, so you might be able to have five prescriptions over the course of a year.
01:49:46.000 But then again, they don't know because a lot of it is illegal.
01:49:51.000 Oh, yeah, that's a huge part of the problem.
01:49:53.000 Yeah, I mean, I would gather that probably half of it is illegal.
01:49:57.000 At least.
01:49:58.000 Because you got illegal stuff, pills coming in from all over the world and Mexico.
01:50:03.000 And then people...
01:50:05.000 So the story we did on it was they get addicted to Oxy, then they can't afford it because Oxy's are more expensive than heroin. 0.99
01:50:12.000 I don't know how the fuck that happened, I guess, whatever. 0.94
01:50:14.000 And then they're doing heroin because it's cheaper. 0.98
01:50:18.000 Then fentanyl, because it's cheaper still and stronger.
01:50:21.000 Yeah.
01:50:21.000 And there's that whole thing of like when someone dies of a heroin overdose, everyone goes to their dealer and buys from them because, oh, then it's really strong when I'm not going to die.
01:50:29.000 Yeah.
01:50:29.000 So that's another reason why fentanyl is going through the roof.
01:50:32.000 Isn't that amazing?
01:50:35.000 It's such a bizarre state that we're in when it comes to that.
01:50:39.000 And then there's all sorts of other prescription pills that people are taking.
01:50:41.000 You know how many people are addicted to Xanax?
01:50:44.000 You know, not a lot of them are dropping like flies, but it's a huge issue. 0.99
01:50:47.000 And all, like, these wives that I meet in these, like, wealthy communities, all these people, it's like so many fucking people are on Xanax. 0.97
01:50:58.000 I mean, they're laughing about it. 0.97
01:51:00.000 I'll just have a Xanax and a glass of wine here. 1.00
01:51:03.000 Like, how many of you fuckers are on Xanax? 1.00
01:51:05.000 Some lady was at the improv the other night, and she was so comfortable heckling. 1.00
01:51:10.000 She was in the front row. 0.96
01:51:11.000 She was an older lady. 1.00
01:51:12.000 And she was a little drunk.
01:51:13.000 She was tipsy.
01:51:14.000 But she was so comfortable heckling and chatting it up.
01:51:17.000 And I go, let me guess.
01:51:18.000 I go, you had a glass of wine and a Xanax. 0.99
01:51:20.000 And she fucking got up and high-fived me. 1.00
01:51:22.000 She was laughing. 1.00
01:51:23.000 Yes!
01:51:24.000 Yes!
01:51:25.000 Yes!
01:51:25.000 You're right!
01:51:27.000 And I go, do you take that all the time?
01:51:28.000 She's like, all the time.
01:51:29.000 I can't get along without it.
01:51:30.000 I'm like, whoa.
01:51:31.000 Well, wasn't there a stat?
01:51:32.000 I remember this stat, and hopefully we can pull it.
01:51:35.000 We're giving him too much work right now.
01:51:37.000 He's confused.
01:51:38.000 But there was a stat that like 50% of the country was on pharmacy, like some sort of like Xanax or this or that or whatever, booze.
01:51:49.000 And the other 50% was on, you know, pot or coke or this or that, which kind of makes sense.
01:51:55.000 Yeah.
01:51:55.000 And so you're like, basically, you know what it reminded me?
01:51:58.000 It reminded me of, like, Platoon, when Elias' dudes were all smoking pot, and they were like the freaks, and then the other dudes were drinking whiskey and beer and whatever.
01:52:07.000 And it's sort of like...
01:52:14.000 Right.
01:52:32.000 Yeah.
01:52:33.000 If not, then they're going to AA meetings and smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee.
01:52:37.000 Yeah.
01:52:37.000 You know, that's really what's going on, man.
01:52:39.000 You know, what do we got here, Jamie?
01:52:41.000 Got some stats?
01:52:42.000 Yeah, I got some stats here.
01:52:43.000 Well, 52 Americans.
01:52:44.000 Wow.
01:52:44.000 That's even more.
01:52:46.000 52 million Americans use prescription drugs for non-medical reasons at least once in their lifetime.
01:52:51.000 So that means people that are recreationally taking probably...
01:52:56.000 You know, painkillers.
01:52:58.000 Death by overdoses involving prescription painkillers quadrupled since 1999. That's incredible.
01:53:04.000 More than 6.5 million people above the age of 11 used prescription drugs for non-medical reasons in 2013. That's more than cocaine.
01:53:12.000 Holy shit. 0.99
01:53:13.000 But that cocaine number looks unbelievably low. 0.99
01:53:16.000 I think that's New York on a Friday night.
01:53:19.000 Yeah, that's Santa Monica. 0.98
01:53:20.000 Those are liars.
01:53:22.000 Total number of retail drug prescriptions in 2015. It's... 0.79
01:53:26.000 4,065,175,064. 0.99
01:53:31.000 Holy shit. 1.00
01:53:33.000 We are fucking, we've been evaded. 1.00
01:53:35.000 You're a good researcher. 1.00
01:53:36.000 He's a bad motherfucker. 1.00
01:53:37.000 That's good. 1.00
01:53:38.000 We've been evaded.
01:53:39.000 Look how, yeah.
01:53:40.000 Look at Alabama. 1.00
01:53:41.000 Look at California.
01:53:42.000 Coming in strong.
01:53:42.000 How about Alabama's at the top?
01:53:44.000 It's just Alphabet 4. Oh, I see, I see.
01:53:46.000 Alphabet 4. Oh yeah, California though.
01:53:48.000 Oh my god, 458 million.
01:53:51.000 Are we at the top?
01:53:52.000 We're taking it out here.
01:53:54.000 We're number one.
01:53:55.000 What's New York?
01:53:55.000 New York's gotta be.
01:53:56.000 That's hilarious if Florida's number two because there's way less people in Florida.
01:53:59.000 Yeah, New York.
01:54:00.000 Just above New York.
01:54:01.000 Wow.
01:54:02.000 Wow.
01:54:02.000 Dude, there's way less people in Florida.
01:54:05.000 Ohio's way up there for...
01:54:06.000 Ohio's way up there for, yeah.
01:54:08.000 You grew up there, kid.
01:54:09.000 You know what's up. 1.00
01:54:10.000 You gotta get fucked up. 1.00
01:54:11.000 You gotta get fucked up if you want to get through. 1.00
01:54:13.000 Where in Ohio? 1.00
01:54:14.000 Columbus, Ohio.
01:54:16.000 Powerful Columbus.
01:54:17.000 There's a lot of punk bands from there.
01:54:19.000 Yeah, that's the reason why. 0.97
01:54:20.000 It's fucking grey all through the winter. 0.99
01:54:24.000 Go outside. 1.00
01:54:25.000 There's no goddamn clouds. 0.99
01:54:26.000 Just darkness or no sun. 1.00
01:54:28.000 Just darkness and gloomy and heroin and pills.
01:54:31.000 There you go.
01:54:31.000 Pills.
01:54:32.000 Yeah, man, it's not good and I don't know how to get that out of the system.
01:54:35.000 That's like having a computer virus and you bring it to the computer guy and he's like, oh Jesus.
01:54:41.000 It's in everything. 0.99
01:54:41.000 Well, it's also another reason why we're all fucked up. 0.99
01:54:44.000 Everybody's just, you know, drugging themselves and, oh, fucking opioids and, you know. 1.00
01:54:50.000 And the cynics will say, well, you're a fucking pothead. 1.00
01:54:53.000 You're talking about that and you're a pothead. 1.00
01:54:55.000 What's the difference, bro? 1.00
01:54:57.000 Well, it's pot, stupid. 1.00
01:54:59.000 First of all, second of all, it doesn't do anything bad to you. 1.00
01:55:02.000 It's already been established.
01:55:04.000 Obviously, no one's trying to stop whiskey, okay?
01:55:07.000 No one's trying to stop wine.
01:55:09.000 I'm not trying to stop people from taking things that are manageable.
01:55:13.000 There is nothing manageable about fentanyl.
01:55:15.000 Nothing.
01:55:16.000 If you're rolling the dice with death every time you're doing something, that's not good. 1.00
01:55:21.000 And also, if you're getting addicted like that, and you just can't do anything about it, then that's just stupid. 0.99
01:55:27.000 And it's way harder to kick, you said? 1.00
01:55:29.000 Yeah.
01:55:30.000 Great.
01:55:30.000 What a combo.
01:55:32.000 It's much stronger. 1.00
01:55:33.000 Who the fuck needed that? 0.99
01:55:35.000 Who approved that? 1.00
01:55:36.000 It was for animals.
01:55:38.000 And then they said, oh, we can just cut this and it's sort of like super strong heroin.
01:55:44.000 It's like PCP, right?
01:55:45.000 PCP was an animal tranquilizer.
01:55:49.000 I know, but it's just amazing that someone greenlit that.
01:55:51.000 That they look at that and go, oh, well, paper seems to be in order.
01:55:54.000 Let's go.
01:55:54.000 Roll it out.
01:55:55.000 Well, how many, this is my thing, how many hippopotamuses and rhinos are we tranking?
01:56:00.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:56:01.000 Because somebody must have looked at it at some point and said, fuck, there's a lot of hippopotamuses getting their livers removed here in New York City. 1.00
01:56:08.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00
01:56:09.000 Yeah.
01:56:10.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:56:11.000 Well, once those woolly mammoths start fucking roaming through Russia and chewing everything apart, we're going to have to shoot them with darts. 1.00
01:56:16.000 We're going to have to crank them and check them out. 1.00
01:56:18.000 Make sure they're not doing anything weird.
01:56:20.000 We need the mammoths. 0.97
01:56:21.000 We need the mammoths. 0.97
01:56:22.000 Make sure they're not evolving on us.
01:56:24.000 Yeah.
01:56:26.000 Weird times, man.
01:56:27.000 Really, really, really weird times.
01:56:29.000 Yeah.
01:56:29.000 And more weird, I think, than any other time in human history.
01:56:32.000 Oh, for sure.
01:56:33.000 And, you know, if we believe in Moore's Law, then it's going to just go...
01:56:37.000 Like you're saying, we have this technology now.
01:56:40.000 We can't even...
01:56:42.000 Like, it used to be like, oh, 50 years from now we'll write about... 0.91
01:56:45.000 Five years from now, we don't know what the fuck's going to happen. 0.98
01:56:48.000 All this shit is just like, well, we can map the genome, and now we can edit the genome. 0.99
01:56:53.000 Now we can reverse aging. 0.99
01:56:54.000 Now we can do this. 0.99
01:56:55.000 And you're just sitting there going, holy shit, this is happening in real time. 0.99
01:56:59.000 So quickly. 0.99
01:57:00.000 And because of that, the speed is ramping up. 0.97
01:57:08.000 Kind of like it though because you know, I do a lot of medical research and I'm like You know one of the reasons why I'm not drinking here is because I got to go for my annual physical and I'm you know Gotta go in and not you don't have too much booze or whatever my body But it what's interesting about it is they map your shit and they check out your shit and they say well This is gonna happen or that can happen whatever else,
01:57:28.000 but you sit there and you go in five years You're gonna have Aggressive therapies, if not cures, for many forms of cancer.
01:57:38.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:57:39.000 So you're just sitting there going, please, for fuck's sake, just get me another fucking 10 years so that I can get to this sort of stage. 0.99
01:57:46.000 And I think a lot of people with a lot of diseases that hitherto have been incurable are sitting there going, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. 0.99
01:57:53.000 Yeah.
01:57:54.000 Because it's going exponentially. 0.99
01:57:57.000 And when you can map the genome, then you can figure this out and we can rewire that fucking thing. 0.99
01:58:00.000 Yeah. 0.91
01:58:01.000 Well, there's also more understanding about nutrition now than ever before and the causes of all these illnesses, and a big part of that is inflammation.
01:58:07.000 Gut.
01:58:07.000 Gut health.
01:58:08.000 Gut health.
01:58:08.000 Yeah, gut health, and that pertains to a lot of it, pertains to your diet, you know, and also the over-prescription of antibiotics.
01:58:15.000 I was listening to this podcast today.
01:58:17.000 Destroys your biome. 0.95
01:58:18.000 Yeah, I was listening to this podcast today where they were discussing, this one was discussing having, she had some sort of an illness and they gave her two, oh she had an ear infection, and they gave her two big doses of antibiotics and she was fucked up for a decade. 0.92
01:58:35.000 She had constant pain, chronic pain, all these illnesses and injuries.
01:58:39.000 And then finally she went to a homeopathic doctor.
01:58:42.000 And the homeopathic doctor sorted it out with probiotics. 1.00
01:58:44.000 And she thought it was bullshit. 0.99
01:58:46.000 She was saying like the woman, her name was like Snowflake and her child was Moonchild. 0.99
01:58:50.000 I had the exact same thing.
01:58:51.000 It was not Stardust.
01:58:53.000 It was a great, great, great doctor called Dr. Lipman.
01:58:56.000 He's an internist.
01:58:58.000 And what happened was I had a stomach eating, flesh eating stomach parasite.
01:59:02.000 Oh, Jesus.
01:59:03.000 And dysentery.
01:59:03.000 I got in Afghanistan.
01:59:05.000 I came back and I was in trouble.
01:59:07.000 I was bad. 0.98
01:59:08.000 Went to the sort of tropical disease center and they're like, holy shit, we have to get this out. 0.86
01:59:14.000 What did it look like? 0.89
01:59:15.000 Well, I took super strong, super, super strong antibiotics. 0.99
01:59:21.000 And afterwards, I was like, I'm fucked up. 0.99
01:59:24.000 Like, I'm seriously fucked up here. 0.99
01:59:26.000 I can't get out of bed. 0.99
01:59:27.000 Like, I'm messed up.
01:59:29.000 And this guy goes, he's like this internist.
01:59:31.000 You gotta go see him.
01:59:31.000 So I go see him, and he's just like, you need a ton of probiotics.
01:59:34.000 You need to rebuild your biome, right?
01:59:37.000 And so I did. 0.99
01:59:38.000 I just took a ton of probiotics, and he put me on this shit and whatever. 0.99
01:59:42.000 I was a new man, right? 0.99
01:59:43.000 Because all your immune system, everything is there.
01:59:46.000 Now they found out.
01:59:47.000 So, you know, what was happening was C. diff and Crohn's disease and all these things were happening because there was superbugs in hospitals because they were over-prescribing antibiotics.
01:59:58.000 And so they started doing...
02:00:03.000 Fecal transplants.
02:00:04.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:00:05.000 Of healthy shit. 1.00
02:00:06.000 I tried to explain that to someone. 1.00
02:00:07.000 They thought I was joking.
02:00:08.000 It redoes your biome.
02:00:09.000 And by the way, it was incurable before.
02:00:11.000 People are dying, and then they do a fecal transplant, and they're cured.
02:00:15.000 Why?
02:00:15.000 Because it replenishes your biome, right?
02:00:18.000 And you're completely destroying it with antibiotics.
02:00:21.000 We did a piece on it, the post-antibiotic world, where they just stop working. 1.00
02:00:24.000 And if you don't come up with shit like fecal transplants, you're fucking dead. 0.99
02:00:29.000 So I went through that, and I've got to say, you know, fucking let's spend some money on that. 1.00
02:00:34.000 Look at this. 0.99
02:00:34.000 Autism symptoms improve after fecal transplant. 0.99
02:00:37.000 Small study finds.
02:00:38.000 Yeah, they're finding out that it has something to do with autistic...
02:00:42.000 Also Parkinson's and Alzheimer's?
02:00:44.000 Yeah, but the severity of autism symptoms and all the traits that they exhibit, something has to do with their gut biome.
02:00:53.000 Yeah.
02:00:54.000 And if you can make the gut biome healthy, it radically improves their state.
02:00:57.000 Parkinson's and Alzheimer's starts in your gut, moves up, starts to play.
02:01:00.000 And that's another thing that apparently has a giant effect on people with autism is medical marijuana.
02:01:05.000 Medical marijuana, especially edible marijuana.
02:01:08.000 I have a friend and he moved to Washington State particularly because of that because when they they made it legal and another friend who this kid was also autistic moved to Colorado for that reason so he could get it easily. 0.59
02:01:19.000 And people with cancer we have a story of all these parents who are like Bible thumpers who found the only thing that worked was CBD and they're like fuck it we're moving from Texas and wherever to Washington and Colorado because it's the only thing that helps my kids.
02:01:36.000 And here's my message to them If you believe in God, you've got to believe that God made marijuana. 0.98
02:01:41.000 It's man that decided it was bad for you.
02:01:43.000 It's not God.
02:01:44.000 It's not logic.
02:01:45.000 It's definitely not science. 0.99
02:01:47.000 There's just some bullshit propaganda that got stuck to it in the 1930s and we're still trying to shake it off. 0.98
02:01:53.000 That's really what's going on. 0.97
02:01:55.000 It has nothing to do with what's right or what's wrong.
02:01:57.000 They were not into a lot of fun in the 30s.
02:01:59.000 They didn't want booze.
02:02:00.000 It was right after that, actually.
02:02:02.000 It was right after they had gotten through the prohibition that they decided to go after marijuana.
02:02:08.000 That's really when it happened.
02:02:09.000 It all happened because of William Randolph Hearst.
02:02:12.000 You know the whole story behind it.
02:02:13.000 No.
02:02:13.000 You don't?
02:02:14.000 Goddamn it, I've told it a thousand times. 0.99
02:02:15.000 So I'll give you the abbreviated version. 0.98
02:02:17.000 William Randolph Hearst owned Hearst Publications, newspapers.
02:02:20.000 He also owned paper mills.
02:02:22.000 Right.
02:02:22.000 And they came out with this machine called the decorticator that allowed them to much more effectively process hemp fiber.
02:02:28.000 It was a machine that processed it.
02:02:30.000 Hemp makes a superior paper.
02:02:31.000 It makes superior cloth.
02:02:33.000 It makes superior...
02:02:33.000 You can eat it.
02:02:34.000 The hemp seed's nutritious.
02:02:36.000 It has essential fatty acids, all the amino acids.
02:02:39.000 It's an amazing plant.
02:02:40.000 It's like an alien plant.
02:02:42.000 He decides to demonize it because he doesn't want to convert his wood, his trees that he's turning into paper, he doesn't want to convert it to hemp and spend millions of dollars. 0.99
02:02:49.000 So instead, he starts publishing stories about Mexicans and blacks that are taking this new drug called marijuana and raping white women. 0.98
02:02:57.000 This drug, marijuana, wasn't even the name for cannabis. 0.99
02:03:00.000 When they made cannabis outlaw, when they made it illegal, when they made marijuana illegal, they didn't even know they were making hemp illegal.
02:03:07.000 They didn't know.
02:03:09.000 The general public did not know it was the same thing.
02:03:12.000 Because this word marijuana was never associated with hemp or with cannabis.
02:03:16.000 Marijuana was a wild Mexican tobacco, totally unrelated to cannabis.
02:03:20.000 They called it marijuana so that they could demonize it, and that's when they funded Reefer Madness and all those crazy propaganda movies and posters.
02:03:28.000 And we are still, to this day, trying to shake off what William Randolph Hearst and Harry Anslinger did in the 1930s. 0.94
02:03:37.000 It's a very interesting anecdote that sort of is very pertinent to what's happening today, where you can just make up a story about something and then it's fucking, it's the truth. 0.83
02:03:47.000 It is pertinent. 0.92
02:03:48.000 It's really perfect.
02:03:49.000 It's the perfect way to connect it to, I mean, we're still dealing with that problem from almost 100 years ago.
02:03:55.000 That's crazy.
02:03:56.000 It's bananas.
02:03:57.000 And it could happen again.
02:03:59.000 You know, what we're looking at right now is not a rigid, completely rock-solid civilization.
02:04:04.000 All it would take is one asteroidal impact, one killing of the power grid, one...
02:04:10.000 I mean, something happens.
02:04:12.000 A meteor shower happens, and it kills off 30% of the population.
02:04:15.000 Permafront.
02:04:16.000 Yeah, permafrost.
02:04:17.000 That could happen.
02:04:19.000 There's so many things that could go wrong.
02:04:21.000 Yellowstone.
02:04:22.000 They have thousands of earthquakes in Yellowstone every year.
02:04:26.000 It's a giant caldera volcano that at one point in time blew up and killed everything on the continent. 0.99
02:04:32.000 Every six to eight hundred thousand years it goes and when it goes that's a wrap baby and the last time it went 600,000 years ago and we they have thousands of earthquakes every year in Yellowstone and you go there and you watch Steam shooting out of the ground because the fucking boiling magma is so close to the surface that the rivers and streams and the underground water runs into it heats it up and shoots it up in the sky on a regular basis It's fucking bananas! 0.96
02:04:57.000 What I love about that is everyone goes and says, look at that, that's fucking awesome. 0.89
02:05:01.000 Yeah, I went. 0.90
02:05:02.000 I went.
02:05:03.000 It's really cool. 1.00
02:05:04.000 But it's totally possible that that fucking thing with very little notice could blow. 1.00
02:05:10.000 And if it blows, we're dead. 1.00
02:05:12.000 Because we're too close to it.
02:05:14.000 It's in Montana.
02:05:15.000 That's not far enough away.
02:05:17.000 I mean, maybe some people on the East Coast will survive.
02:05:19.000 But they're going to go in a nuclear winter.
02:05:20.000 And it's going to fuck up everybody all over the world.
02:05:23.000 But that's why, just speaking about technology, that if you ever talk to, for example, our guy on our Council of Elders, Elon Musk, he's like, why are we a single planetary species?
02:05:35.000 Why wouldn't we just hedge our bets and be a bi-planetary species?
02:05:39.000 Because if something does go wrong, at least you've got your data and your culture and your people and whatever.
02:05:45.000 And why wouldn't you do that if you could do that?
02:05:47.000 And when they put it that way, you're like, well, that sort of makes sense. 0.94
02:05:49.000 Because everyone's like, oh, I want to live on Mars, those crazy nerds.
02:05:52.000 There's no evidence that we can live there, though.
02:05:53.000 The real problem is we can't really stay in that atmosphere for very long.
02:05:58.000 Sure. 0.99
02:05:58.000 But I mean, they can make fucking... 0.99
02:06:00.000 Yeah, but even that, you're still dealing with a lesser gravity. 0.98
02:06:02.000 It's going to have massive health consequences for the people that decide to move there.
02:06:06.000 Got it.
02:06:06.000 But I'm just saying, that's their argument.
02:06:08.000 No, it's a good argument.
02:06:09.000 We should be a multi-planetary species.
02:06:11.000 It's a good argument, and it's also arguable that with all this CRISPR technology, they might be able to figure out some sort of a medical solution for people that do move to a...
02:06:19.000 You know, like the moon has one-sixth Earth's gravity.
02:06:21.000 You know, there might be some way that they could figure out a way to colonize the moon and, you know, develop some sort of a new technology. 0.99
02:06:27.000 Well, they have crazy shit about... 1.00
02:06:31.000 Terraforming and shit. 1.00
02:06:32.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:06:34.000 Creating an atmosphere.
02:06:34.000 Why don't they do that here?
02:06:37.000 Fix what we already fucked up. 0.98
02:06:39.000 They have to use nukes to do it in Mars. 0.98
02:06:40.000 Oh, that's right.
02:06:41.000 They have to nuke the poles, right? 1.00
02:06:43.000 Yeah, they nuke the poles. 0.94
02:06:44.000 Wonderful.
02:06:44.000 What a good idea.
02:06:45.000 Yeah.
02:06:46.000 Jesus Christ.
02:06:47.000 Anytime you're...
02:06:48.000 I mean, that sounds like something a little kid would come up with.
02:06:50.000 Yeah.
02:06:50.000 How are you gonna solve this?
02:06:51.000 Oh, we're gonna drop some fucking nuclear bombs on the roof. 1.00
02:06:54.000 What? 1.00
02:06:54.000 It's gonna make the thing. 1.00
02:06:55.000 It's gonna make an atmosphere.
02:06:57.000 Yeah, you're gonna...
02:06:58.000 It's too many Matt Damon movies. 0.89
02:06:58.000 What I always just think about that is, you know, they get the equation wrong, and then something's like, oh, fuck it, it throws that, you know, the gravitational pull off by four centimeters, and then you're like... 0.89
02:07:10.000 Oh shit, yeah. 0.99
02:07:11.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:07:11.000 That should have been a carry the two. 1.00
02:07:13.000 Right.
02:07:13.000 And then aliens land on it and take it over.
02:07:16.000 As soon as the air comes up, those, like the actual alien from the movie Alien with the big fucking head, those things, they just camp out right over there and start building spaceships and plan their attack. 0.82
02:07:27.000 What kind of problem, Shane Smith? 0.90
02:07:30.000 I don't know if we're going to solve them by moving to Mars.
02:07:31.000 Did you see that last movie there?
02:07:36.000 Arrival?
02:07:36.000 Yeah.
02:07:36.000 No, I didn't.
02:07:37.000 I liked it.
02:07:38.000 I heard it was great.
02:07:38.000 I liked it.
02:07:39.000 I heard it was really good.
02:07:40.000 I haven't seen it yet.
02:07:41.000 I'm going to see it, though.
02:07:41.000 I liked it.
02:07:42.000 I thought it was good.
02:07:42.000 Don't you spoil the alert, mate.
02:07:43.000 Okay, I'm not going to.
02:07:44.000 I know you wanted to, right?
02:07:45.000 I gotta go, man. 0.98
02:07:46.000 Get the fuck out of here, man. 0.97
02:07:47.000 I love you. 0.99
02:07:48.000 I love you, too, man.
02:07:49.000 So much fun.
02:07:49.000 Always.
02:07:50.000 Always.
02:07:50.000 We did a sober one.
02:07:51.000 We did a sober one.
02:07:52.000 People said we couldn't do it.
02:07:53.000 I'll come back mid-season and I'll be on the piss again.
02:07:56.000 I'm hoping that Mayo gives me a clean bill so that I can come back.
02:08:03.000 You'll look great.
02:08:03.000 I'm sure you're fine.
02:08:04.000 Love you, man.
02:08:05.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I love you, too.
02:08:06.000 Shane Smith!
02:08:09.000 That was great, man.
02:08:13.000 In the 1980s, and he was going to the Cape Town.