Eddie Bravo talks about the first twister in the UFC and how he invented it, how he got into jiu-jitsu, and why he hated football growing up in the 80s and early 90s. He also explains why he never wanted to be a professional football player, why he didn t want to go to college, and what it was like growing up a Mexican-American in the late 80s in the streets of Los Angeles. The Joe Rogan Experience is a sports podcast hosted by former NFL player and current UFC commentator Joe Rogans. The show is now available on all major podcasting platforms, including Podcoin, and Podcoin is giving away $5,000 to one lucky listener who leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe, rate, and review the show on iTunes, and share it with a friend who needs a good ol' day job. Thanks for listening and Good Luck Out There! -Joe Rogan and the Rogans Family Music: "Goodbye Outer Space" by Zapsplat and "Outer Space Traveler" by Fountains of Bakersfield, CA Logo by Courtney DeKorte & Co. Art: Mackenzie Moore Music: Hayden Coplen Editor: John Rocha & Matt Lavelle Additional Compositions by Jeff Kaale (c) Produced by Patrick McElroy and Mike McLaughlin Thanks to: Jeff and Brian ( ) & Matt ( ) for transcribing this episode of the podcast "Good Morning Joe" and the production of this episode "The Joes and the Joes & The Joes Podcasts Thank You for all the love and support you've given us the chance to make this podcast a chance to be heard on the podcast, and the support we've gotten so far this week, and all the hard work we've done in the past few months, and we're looking forward to all the feedback we've received so far, so much love & support we'll see you back in the coming back next week, thank you so much in the next week for your support, so please spread the love, good vibes, love, support, support and support, and love, and support us, and keep the support, love & appreciation, and appreciation, etc., etc., and all of the love & love, etc. - Thank you, Joe and Brian "The Korean Zombie"
00:00:07.000The Joe Rogan Experience The Joe Rogan Experience Brothers and sisters, lovers and children, Brian Redman and Eddie Bravo are in the building!
00:00:51.000And this weekend, on Saturday night at the UFC against Leonard Garcia, he pulled off the first twister ever in the UFC. And the significance, of course, is that Eddie Bravo, our guest today, actually invented the twister.
00:02:04.000And in wrestling, leg riding is for weak people.
00:02:06.000And all that means is we're so weak, we need to use our legs a lot more than the big, strong dudes who are wrestling and hitting the weights and had big chests and shoulders.
00:02:19.000Those guys really didn't rely on their legs as much as the weak guys like me.
00:03:19.000But when I started doing it in jiu-jitsu, Higgin Machado and Jean-Jacques Machado would just call it the twister because the guillotine already existed.
00:03:26.000There's a lot of people out there that think that I took this wrestling move and I said, I'm going to try to fool the world and change the name and say I invented it.
00:04:37.000So once I realized that Mexicans don't play football, I'm like, oh my God, I was in ninth grade and I was the slowest motherfucker out there.
00:04:54.000Once everyone starts growing, you know what?
00:04:56.000Junior All-American in peewee football, that's fucked up.
00:05:00.000I played defensive lineman and middle linebacker in football.
00:05:03.000I actually thought I was going to be a defensive lineman and a middle linebacker because when you're eight and you're nine, everyone's the same size.
00:05:10.000And, you know, there's some brainwash going on that I really thought I was going to be a football player.
00:05:16.000I really thought I was until ninth grade, shit.
00:05:19.000Oh man, when I was in sixth grade, I was supposed to make the football team because in my neighborhood, in my neighborhood, I was a pretty good football player around Mexicans from like a really poor neighborhood.
00:06:02.000So seventh grade, I transferred myself to a school far away that I only went to because...
00:06:10.000There's more stories where I was driven away from my junior high school, so I went to another school.
00:06:15.000I tried out for the football team in the seventh grade.
00:06:18.000I got cut again, but it was flag football.
00:06:20.000But I was so embarrassed that I told my friends growing up, all my kids, I told them that, yeah, I made the team second string quarterback, but you know what?
00:06:30.000I got in a fight, so they had to cut me, man.
00:08:04.000So do you think that if those guys came over to the UFC, those super athletes, those NFL dudes, do you think that's what we're seeing with John Jones?
00:08:21.000And there's dudes that are super athletes that are in maybe other sports, and we're starting to see them in the UFC. That's a big topic of discussion.
00:08:29.000How much of a difference does serious athleticism make?
00:08:50.000It's interesting, though, that football, and I guess it's just where the money is, that the high-money ones like football and basketball, they get the best athletes.
00:08:58.000I mean, even though the UFC's been around now since 93, it's not been like a real accepted mainstream thing, but for like the last five or six years, right?
00:09:21.000It's the best athletes that start off like the Ruffo Brothers.
00:09:25.000You know, I mean, some people can start off with Jiu-Jitsu and wrestling and striking early and achieve so much physically from it, but still...
00:09:37.000They weren't born with the athleticism.
00:10:17.000One of those dudes, I'm sure, Minute Bowl, Akumbe, Mutombo, I can't even say his name, but one of those dudes, I'm sure, started playing basketball late.
00:10:28.000Do you imagine what it must be like living like Minute Bowl?
00:10:31.000It's like you're living in dollhouses everywhere.
00:10:34.000Everywhere you go, they're dollhouses.
00:10:36.000Everyone's building is built for dolls.
00:12:42.000He has this story about the way he described it was a large negress and that he knew that she would make great babies for him.
00:12:51.000So he found her and he described like what he did, like how he shot loads into her to make a boy that he knew that the way he was doing it was definitely to make a boy, like he had some method.
00:13:20.000Can you imagine how much of a pain in the ass it must be if you're a kid and your dad was some fighter and you're supposed to be a fighter too?
00:16:02.000You're like, I'm sitting here talking to Hickson motherfucking Gracie and he's giving me some intense life philosophy on how he strangles dudes.
00:17:44.000That would be a fucking dream of mine to hang out and talk jiu-jitsu and break shit down to the core.
00:17:50.000Well, for the people who don't know the history, Eddie Bravo tapped Hickson's brother, Hoyler, in Abu Dhabi in 2003 in this giant upset when Eddie was at Brown Belt.