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00:00:59.000I want to believe in a world where I can, but as I said, I get a wave of guilt and sin and filth that washes over me every time I climax, and I can't imagine saving that into a fleshy device that I then have to dishwasher.
00:01:12.000It feels better, but it's more embarrassing.
00:01:21.000This is, I mean, we have wine, coconut water, and coffee.
00:01:23.000Yeah, we have coffee, and we're stoned.
00:01:25.000And, you know, I don't, um, there's a thing, I don't have a lot of obsessive compulsive shit, but one thing I have is if you're making a toast, you gotta click glasses with everybody.
00:05:37.000There's something about the internet man and technology in general that has accelerated porn and accelerated depravity and decadence into really fucking intense levels that have never existed before.
00:05:50.000At first it was seen as this bastion of hope that was going to elevate discussion and bring intellectuals together and further everything.
00:06:07.000But I think once you're old and you already have a pattern set in your head, it's way easier to just jerk off to more and more fucked up shit than it is to look at the latest findings on hypernovas or look deep into the real possibilities created by the Large Hadron Collider.
00:07:26.000I'm so fascinated by the engineering that I couldn't possibly be responsible for myself.
00:07:31.000I look at something like a M3 or something like that, I think about all the fucking shit that's involved, all the different settings, the M setting, and all of a sudden the suspension changes, you feel it sticking.
00:07:40.000Set a macro for your car and all of a sudden it's like the car is sucking you by the asshole and just holding you down the road.
00:09:59.000Nah, if you warm your engine up, you have to drive for X amount of miles at certain speeds or whatnot.
00:10:03.000You can drop it into first, shut off traction control, and if you hold one of the shifter paddles in, or you put it in neutral, slam on the gas while holding a shifter paddle, a checkered flag will appear on the dash.
00:10:15.000Yeah, no, there's total Easter eggs in the software.
00:10:17.000And then you can use your cruise control actual controls to boost up the RPM, so when you let go, it engages that clutch when you're already at 7,000, 8,000 RPM. Screams.
00:11:42.000I'm interested in them eventually, but I'm not interested in something that you have to charge for 18 hours after you drive 250. That's stupid.
00:11:49.000I'm interested in the gallons, though.
00:14:10.000When he would smoke crack, he would want to go hide and go to peep shows and hide in those places all day and just give the girl money.
00:14:16.000He would tell me these horror stories about what kind of women are on the other side, showing you their asshole.
00:14:20.000Do you think girls are in those glass boxes behind that hotel where they have a girl in the glass box behind the checkout that's on Sunset?
00:14:33.000Do you think that's like the upgraded version of the peep show girls?
00:14:37.000Like, oh my god, they fight with each other.
00:14:39.000I'm working the box at the Standard this weekend.
00:14:40.000For people that don't know what we're talking about, when you go to the Standard, as you go into the lobby, the Standard Hotel in Hollywood has the desk where they check you in, and above the desk, there's like a fish tank, like a big fish tank with a woman in it.
00:14:52.000And she's hot, and she's in her underwear, and she's reading a book.
00:17:34.000Especially as the notion of IPTV, internet TV, and we'll get to the Google thing probably at some point.
00:17:39.000But the notion that the distribution method, the way you're getting the content is going to matter in five years, it's not.
00:17:46.000So when people turn on the TV and they're watching the internet, there's going to be calls for regulations and clampdowns just the way there is.
00:17:52.000You'll still be able to self-distribute, always.
00:17:54.000That avenue will be there to an extent.
00:18:30.000Okay, how do we stop that from happening?
00:18:32.000Well, we have to figure out a way that the internet's evil.
00:18:34.000And so then the internet gets used for something or blamed for something, and there's some sort of a terrorist attack that was coordinated by the internet.
00:18:42.000Okay, there is a way around this, and you can still enjoy your internet, but now you have to log in.
00:18:47.000I mean, there's been legislation proposed, the internet kill switch, which people were talking about, like mad.
00:18:51.000And it was actually right before Egypt happened.
00:18:53.000And then they actually discussed it right as Egypt was happening.
00:19:25.000I put it on my Twitter a couple of days ago.
00:19:27.000But he was talking in 2007, okay, in detail about the plans that are in place to overthrow dictatorships throughout the world, including Libya.
00:20:05.000This whole country seems like a bunch of meddling fucks when it comes to the rest of the world.
00:20:11.000If I wasn't American and I didn't know that most of us here are as much victims as the people around the world, it's just not happening to us physically.
00:20:19.000We're just as taken apart by this machine and pushed into a direction outside of our control.
00:20:47.000What we've done financially is the same thing we're doing with other parts of the world as far as with resources and invading countries and dominating things.
00:20:58.000We're doing things with no regard whatsoever to the consequences and no regard whatsoever in how we're viewed.
00:21:06.000And that's the thing about this inside job.
00:22:20.000It could just mean that, generally speaking, humanity develops in cycles.
00:22:25.000That's what the Hindus believe too, the yugas.
00:22:28.000The whole idea of the yugas is that there are cycles of humanity and that we eventually, just by virtue of our design, we get to a point of laziness and sloth once we have it all down like we do today.
00:22:38.000And then eventually it would spiral out of control and then be the dark ages again.
00:22:41.000Well, either we're heading towards Dark Ages or like transhumanism.
00:22:58.000I mean, even if you connect to the hive mind, if that does happen, transhumanism actually does manifest itself, we're still going to have people that are living in Guam.
00:23:07.000How are we going to get them and put chips in them?
00:23:09.000No, they're going to be used to mine the materials necessary to make the chips.
00:24:30.000What is wrong are people that are co-opting the medicinal marijuana movement and claiming that they're just stoners that are trying to make money or like getting loaded and they're pretending it's their medicine.
00:25:34.000You know what I think the internet's going to happen, like how the government's going to get involved?
00:25:37.000Instead of doing the kill switch, I almost think that they're going to do what web hosts have been doing lately, which is, yeah, it used to be the old days web hosts were like unlimited bandwidth, unlimited this, blah, blah, blah, 20 bucks a month.
00:25:48.000And I think the government's just going to release, hey, we have internet too.
00:25:52.000You don't have to sign up for this internet too, but if you want to, it's like a thousand times faster.
00:25:58.000But the only stipulation is, because now web hosts are doing the same thing.
00:26:02.000It's like, hey, if you switch to cloud-based servers, you still get everything else, but now you have to pay for RAM. But the way they're going to do that is they're going to turn the internet you know now into that with net neutrality or the lack thereof.
00:26:14.000So it's going to be you pay for the internet, you get premium, super fast bandwidth access to the stuff we want you to have access to.
00:26:20.000How important is the message to people that we need to keep the internet free?
00:26:25.000I think it's going to be one of the most important debates of our time.
00:27:14.000Yeah, the ability to disseminate information as quickly as possible is one of the most important parts about it.
00:27:18.000I think that eventually we're going to have to figure out How much control we're going to allow the government to have over us.
00:27:25.000Because, you know, people as a group, like collectively, have to realize that there has never been one thing in human history responsible for more access to information than the internet.
00:27:37.000And it's because of the free nature of it.
00:27:39.000You could put up a website right now and just put up the craziest fucking shit you want.
00:28:30.000It's like, people are tweeting me the most fascinating shit.
00:28:33.000If I lived 30 years ago, this would have never happened.
00:28:36.000You would have to live in a university town, and you would have to either teach, or you'd have to be around students all the time.
00:28:42.000Or you'd have to be in some sort of a really challenging job where the other people that are around you are, like, really creative and constantly reviewing information.
00:31:20.000You pick up a piece from someone else's story and...
00:31:22.000Yeah, I mean, you talk to O.J. Simpson right now, that guy, he might have some crazy fucking story in his head where he really didn't do it.
00:31:29.000But this New Mexico thing, to me, is fascinating because they printed in the paper that we've recovered a crashed flying disc.
00:31:37.000You know, that the Air Force had communicated to the newspaper, we have recovered a UFO. It doesn't mean it wasn't some sort of a Russian thing.
00:31:43.000It doesn't mean it wasn't one of their own things.
00:31:46.000But it also doesn't mean it wasn't a fucking flying saucer.
00:33:36.000A planet that doesn't have all the crazy shit going on that this planet does with super volcanoes and shifting of the polar ice caps and stuff like that, which we know happen.
00:33:45.000I do get the notion of listening, though, for the same way that we might be broadcasting something out.
00:33:49.000Like, if you're going to roll your dice, yes, there are probably bazillions of light years ahead of us in advanced and intelligent, but least common denominator, maybe there's another human being species out there that is still broadcasting I Love Lucy episodes and...
00:34:01.000Hitler's Olympic opening, and you can listen for that.
00:35:01.000Isn't that what they were trying to achieve with the Hadron Collider?
00:35:03.000Obviously studying black holes and whatnot, but the notion that they could control that explosion, like if they built one in space, they could control the explosion, and that explosion would actually be a portal or a wormhole?
00:36:11.000When you hear about quantum computing, I have tried to, I've read many papers on quantum computing, and I take a deep breath and I read them again, and I take a deep breath and I read them again, and I try to wrap my fucking brain around exactly what they're saying, but it's so squirrely.
00:36:26.000It's like, whoa, this is getting awful lot like magic.
00:36:52.000I love that, you know, I thought disasters in Japan, not to bring this to a much lighter note, but I thought disasters in Japan would lead to a finely intelligent adult conversation, although I hate the term adult conversation, about energy in this country.
00:37:03.000I thought maybe it would get us to solar and looking into photosynthesis and all that stuff.
00:37:37.000I see that in just in human being and lazy behavior.
00:37:40.000People are as childish and indulgent as they have to be.
00:37:44.000And that's why we're so fascinated when we hear about some Amazon tribe that goes out and gets their own fucking water with, you know, hollowed out coconuts and, you know, they fucking shoot monkeys with spear guns and that's what they eat, you know, like You read about that and you go, whoa, how resourceful.
00:38:36.000Have we touched on – well, you mentioned something earlier that I wanted to get back to about what will we as a society accept from our government in terms of control when we revolt and all that stuff.
00:38:46.000And I'm still amazed every damn flight I take when I look at the TSA procedures and I see people just standing in those X-ray boxes and just filling their bodies with gamma rays to prove that they're not a terrorist.
00:39:42.000But the point is that, you know, it's become like a point of debate where like some guys have been upset at me.
00:39:48.000Like, what is your issue with male feminism?
00:39:50.000My issue is the same thing as women that are masculinisms, you know, or masculinists rather, you know.
00:39:56.000I mean, any women who's only into men, like men power and man power, or even into it to the point where you're promoting it, just promote equality amongst human beings as far as the way we treat each other.
00:40:06.000But there's something creepy about male feminists, and that's why I wanted you to pull up that video, Brian.
00:41:58.000I know that in order to truly honor you as a multidimensional woman, I must stand fully present with myself and own the gifts I have to show.
00:45:42.000You know, compromised by these knuckleheads that try to pretend that men aren't men and women aren't women and there's some sort of a hybrid that you can be where you can appeal to the women and embrace your feminine energy.
00:48:18.000But you've been really successful over at G4. That whole network pretty much centers around a couple people, you and extended play people or whatever it's called nowadays.
00:49:20.000Yeah, he's still on G4. He's on X-Play, our game show.
00:49:22.000But there was this weird sort of buyout of Tech TV. It wasn't like some hostile takeover or anything like that.
00:49:29.000And unfortunately, I think that at the time, the merger was mismanaged.
00:49:35.000My network interests were buying distribution and not buying content, and that was the problem.
00:49:39.000And so it was just sort of like, okay, we have all this distribution now.
00:49:42.000Let's just merge these networks and we'll figure it out and let it fly.
00:49:44.000So unfortunately, I got stuck in a situation where they were transitioning a show that I loved, The Screensavers, into this other show without thinking that the audience might not like that.
00:49:53.000You turn on the dial one day and it's the same time, the same kind of program, but it's a different name with some of the nerdiest stuff stripped out and all that stuff.
00:50:02.000And so it got a lot of bad blood, which unfortunately still exists today on the internet.
00:51:17.000Well, this asshole found out that Pepsi Spice hadn't gotten their own domain.
00:51:22.000They didn't secure So Brian starts a daily blog on Pepsi Spice about going on a Pepsi Spice-only diet and he starts… Where I was only allowed to drink Pepsi Spice and then deteriorate your body.
00:53:36.000Anyways, she forgot one day that her webcam, right when they put on webcams, so I caught her all these times just sucking her thumb and she didn't know the webcam was on.
00:53:45.000Is this something that she openly did around the office?
00:53:48.000I even got photos of her when she found out that the webcam was on.
00:53:53.000What you're supposed to do, dude, is not let that out and find her.
00:55:51.000What happens is the original images were naked and she adjusted them.
00:55:56.000Photoshop had a feature where you could publish a web gallery, publish it directly to the web.
00:56:00.000It's been a long while, but I think that's how the story went.
00:56:03.000So it actually published layers that were shut off and she had cropped one and again the thumbnail was sort of saved of the full image even though she cropped it within the program.
00:56:27.000There was a program that would look at people's photo bucket accounts back in the day and then procedurally change the file names looking for files that were sort of hidden or not publicized.
00:56:36.000And so many girls had private photos that they were storing or sending to their long distance boyfriends exposed just by crawling that.
00:56:43.000There were so many cool things back in the day when the internet was still, like, people were still figuring out.
00:56:46.000When the barrier to entry was high, the internet was fucking dope.
00:56:50.000Like, I'll never forget the bulletin board days where you had to, like, know how to do a dial-out telex program and call some shady dude's computer in a basement who was hosting porn and wears games and all that stuff.
00:57:12.000I would hear those noises and immediately get erect.
00:57:14.000Because I knew that meant porn was coming.
00:57:15.000Remember, we were talking about Wetrics, how we were both Dreamcast fans, but remember going on AOL's message boards and stuff and getting every single video game possible burnt onto a disc.
00:57:36.000Well, no, that was Quake 1. I was in Quake 1. I came in at Quake 2. Yeah, and I followed it through Quake 3 and into Quake 4. Quake 4 is when I realized how to stop and grow up.
00:57:46.000Now it's like Quake Arena on a web browser.
00:58:17.000Google is going to try to own the living room, and it's going to be them, Apple, potentially Comcast, Time Warner, and a few others that are really going to be making the play for being the gateway to media.
00:58:35.000That means if you have a cable box or a satellite box, you connect that.
00:58:38.000Instead of going directly to the TV or your receiver, you plug that into the Logitech box.
00:58:42.000Then that goes to your TV. And what that does, which no other box really does, is gives you ability to layer information on top of your TV. All these other boxes, you've got to switch to another input, and you lose the TV side of things, and it's a different experience, and then you go back to your TV. This one, at any given time, you have an argument about, oh, what was that actor in that went...
00:59:10.000There's actually a website that's doing an app where you watch models go down a runway, and it tells you about, like, the fashion they're wearing.
00:59:16.000And if you want, you press OK, and it pulls up the website.
00:59:19.000While the video's still going, you can order it right from there.
00:59:21.000On your TV? On your TV. And it's got a full web.
00:59:35.000I think the Logitech is a little better than the Sony because of the remotes and the apps themselves.
00:59:38.000But as long as content providers don't completely fuck this platform over, which they're trying to do left and right because they're all so scared, it will be amazing.
00:59:56.000I wanted to watch a South Park episode the other day, and I went and pulled up South Park's website.
01:00:00.000Now, again, if I had my laptop, I could pull it up right there and watch the full high-def South Park episode, sit through commercials or whatever would be right there.
01:00:06.000When I tried to pull it up on my TV, it popped up and said, Oh, you're trying to access this from a Google TV device.
01:02:10.000If we really found out that artificial intelligence actually does exist and what it is is Google and that Google figured out a way to fucking program the universe and own everything, I mean, it's so weird.
01:02:41.000They basically said that Facebook was launched as a secret program and it took off wildly successful.
01:02:46.000They never imagined that citizens would give up all their photos, their likes, their dislikes, where they are, their check-ins, check-outs.
01:03:44.000Yeah, it's not where it needs to be net.
01:03:46.000The idea is that in the future, cloud computing is going to lead to...
01:03:49.000I mean, we're going to laugh at the fact that this has a processor, that has a processor, that computer behind you has RAM and chips in it.
01:04:01.000Basically, all you need is whatever technology needs to happen to stream a high-def signal at 60 or 30 to 60 frames a second to whatever device there is.
01:04:09.000So the idea is that in the future, you'll just have a screen or you'll walk into a hotel, you'll sit at a terminal, you'll punch in your info or it'll scan your retina or you'll pee in a cup, however they'll do it, and all of a sudden, your desktop appears like that.
01:04:26.000Everything's going to be stored and processed in servers that we don't see because it'll be beamed quick enough, and it already exists today.
01:04:32.000And Phantom's going to bring it to you.
01:05:15.000We used it the other day, and it's got its hiccups, but imagine when you log in a service, you'd see thousands of Windows streaming Call of Duty and streaming Gears of War and all this stuff, and you can go and click on it, and those are actually people playing live.
01:06:56.000They'll do the research and do enough focus groups to find out what features they have to include to make it amazing, palatable, magical, revolutionary, whatever.
01:07:04.000And then they'll go, okay, the next version will have all these things.
01:07:07.000Just like when this launched without picture messaging and all sorts of stuff.
01:07:27.000What's ridiculous to me, and not to get on a nerdy rant, but that's all I really have to offer this world, is the fucking fact that if, let's say I have Verizon.
01:07:34.000And I'm paying $40 a month for their data plan, and AT&T's no better.
01:07:38.000And then if I want to tether that phone to my laptop to use this as a modem, I've got to pay an extra fee, but it still eats away at the bandwidth that I'm paying $40 for.
01:07:47.000Is that because the FCC and senators don't realize that it's all the same bandwidth?
01:07:52.000No, I think it's Verizon making money.
01:08:05.000I had an AT&T phone of iPhone, and then I got a Verizon iPhone recently.
01:08:09.000And one thing I noticed is that I'll have a full 3G signal on Verizon, and then I'll start downloading something, like an app or something, and it'll kick off 3G. AT&T's data is better than Verizon.
01:08:49.000That is, again, the whole net neutrality thing that I'm worried about.
01:08:52.000You'll buy a Verizon wireless LTE router for your home, and you'll wirelessly pull down your bandwidth and share it with everybody else because it's that fast now, wireless.
01:11:49.000That whole Mac versus PC thing is such a strange one, though, to me.
01:11:54.000I wonder how many people, whether they're politicians or people trying to appeal to a certain class of society, will choose a PC over a Mac to let you know, hey, I'm a part of the proletariat.
01:12:05.000Like Obama saying, hey, I got an iPad.
01:13:40.000I don't know what you're talking about.
01:13:41.000They all have douchebags in them, but I think...
01:13:44.000That's the number one issue, though, with bands, right?
01:13:46.000I mean, Eddie Bravo has been in bands his whole life, and he said the number one issue has always been dealing with trying to manage all the egos in the band.
01:13:54.000It's like herding cats, and that's what kills so many bands.
01:15:13.000I've met people that will say they're not into music and I don't get that because to me it's a universal language just as much math but I think even more so than math.
01:15:45.000I wanted to know why house music was something that persistent thump got me up and made me want to move.
01:15:51.000And it seems to move some people and whatnot.
01:15:52.000And it's like lower end frequencies are triggered to primal portions of our brain that we're sensitive to hearing approaching animals and elephant herds and all that stuff.
01:16:00.000So it triggers that, oh, I better wake up, be alert, got to get going.
01:16:04.000And so that persistent thump drives you and keeps you going.
01:18:04.000The real problem is it would have to be a real radical, drastic change for them to measure it.
01:18:09.000Just because it changes the way you feel, statistically it might not show a significant jump as far as disease or heart attacks or assaults or anything crazy, because I don't think there's ever been anything statistically connected.
01:18:53.000Or you grow up with imagery of, oh, full moon, and you hear that's when the crazies come out and the wolves howl, and you go, all right, now's my time.
01:18:58.000Well, that's one of the things I was pissed off.
01:18:59.000Let me throw on some MMA shirts and go punch some ladies.
01:19:05.000This Dear Woman thing, one of the things that pissed me off is the women, not crosses, excuse me, burning women at the stake, the witches, burning witches at the stake.
01:19:15.000They've connected that to fungus that grew on wheat because they had a late frost, and then it fucked up their crops, and the wheat was frozen.
01:19:35.000And one of the things that they've shown in...
01:19:40.000Grain samples from that era, from that time, the Salem witch trials, was that these fucking people were high on LSD. They didn't even know it.
01:22:18.000But the beautiful thing about that diet is that if you reintroduce food into your system after 12 days, you can find out allergies a lot more accurately than if, say, you might be afraid of rice or something.
01:23:55.000These guys stare at it and read it Russian poetry.
01:23:57.000These guys, by the way, have a whole bunch of other videos where how do men find real feminism inside them and feminine energy inside them.
01:25:11.000I forgot how funny those stories were.
01:25:13.000And one of them is Bobby getting in trouble the very first day this girl showed up at work, he farted in her face.
01:25:18.000She's sitting there reading her script, eating yogurt, and he walks up and sticks his ass on her nose and farts right on her face.
01:25:25.000And she's crying, and one guy attacks him, and she was going to sue him, and he had to buy her a gift certificate for Brooke Williams to get massages and shit.
01:26:27.000I'm going to pretend like I don't have that one off the top of my head.
01:26:29.000But there is a site just for that, which is great.
01:26:32.000Yeah, I used to work at Gateway Computers, and the day that Joe called me up and was like, hey, you want to move to California and do videos for a living and all this shit?
01:27:42.000He was married to this girl that looked like Harry Potter.
01:27:46.000So I just made pretty much this two-minute video, a minute-and-a-half video that just was like, oh, you want to fight?
01:27:52.000I was good at Flash animation at the time because when Flash first came out, when it was like Shockwave instead of Shockwave is what it was called.
01:29:04.000There's the angel and the devil, the classic angel and the devil, like from Animal House, one on each shoulder.
01:29:09.000Well, the angel is on one side, and he's this buff gay guy, and he's got a guy sucking his dick, and then below him, there's a guy sucking that guy's dick and eating that guy's ass, and they're crossing...
01:29:29.000Sucking guys and fucking guys in the ass on both sides.
01:29:32.000So the devil's getting his dick sucked and the angel's getting his dick sucked and they're like looking at each other like, hey, what's up?
01:30:52.000When we're talking about fantastic technology and the creation, like human innovation, the creation of an M3 or an Apple laptop or anything, We're talking about spectacular new things that are in our world right now.
01:31:23.000Did you live in a house, you dumb cunt?
01:31:25.000Unless he sent that tweet by a fucking smoke signal or semaphore, he's a piece of shit.
01:31:29.000I just want to address this whole retarded mentality to criticize other people's interests, especially other people's interests when it comes to things that you can't attain.
01:31:38.000So all of a sudden, these things that you can't attain become evil things or bad things or negative things.
01:32:03.000And there's this idea that somehow or another, like, looking into this technology and objects and things, it's not being obsessed with creating or acquiring diamonds and walking around and covered in jewels.
01:32:15.000What we're doing is looking at the incredible shit that human beings are creating and how nuts this is and how different this is and just a few years ago.
01:35:18.000If that's the only movie, like when HD first came out, people were like, dude, you gotta get HD. Why?
01:35:21.000You can watch Flamingo's Fuck and The Sun Rise and High Def, and that's all there was for it, which I get, you know, your eyes widen because you like watching Flamingo's Fuck, but after three months, that's That's all there was.
01:35:31.000Have you played Call of Duty in 3D? I have played 3D games, yeah.
01:36:27.000So you point Google Goggles at a restaurant or a landmark, and it analyzes what you're looking at, and then spits you out a search result based off that.
01:36:34.000So you point it at the Golden Gate Bridge, boom, you get the history of that.
01:37:00.000So step two is they have these augmented reality markers that you can throw down and look at with a webcam or with a cell phone application and it'll make like on the 3DS it makes like a dragon appear and you can walk around and look at it in 3D and shoot arrows at it.
01:37:39.000Yeah, but it's all going to have real-time tracking, too.
01:37:41.000So imagine hiking up to a point at a mountain, looking over a city and tapping it, and having information on that city come out, having a communal game pop out of it.
01:39:37.000For all the shit that they give James Cameron for being arrogant or tough to work with or whatever, he came on the show, had a smile, shook my hand, was super nerdy about everything.
01:39:44.000And we even had him coming out with a folding chair and smashing through a brick wall and hitting dummies.
01:39:48.000He was super game to have a good time.
01:39:50.000And he cut his head on one of the foam rocks that fell the second time he came on the show with this big wall and he burst through it like Kool-Aid.
01:40:03.000So I'm sitting there interviewing him, and I'm just seeing, thank God it's away from the camera, but I'm watching blood slowly trickle out of his forehead.
01:40:31.000If you were the type of guy that kills people because a foam rock fell on your head, you would have a fucking trail of bodies behind you like Genghis Khan.
01:41:46.000Leslie Nielsen growing up was one of my faves.
01:41:48.000I saw Naked Gun recently, and it was so weird seeing O.J. Simpson in it, because you forget how, as a kid growing up, I loved O.J. Simpson.
01:42:00.000That was one of the weirdest moments in human history, when this loved man, this guy who was like, he played the game so well, was so charming, and only even dated white women, so people didn't even think of him as black.
01:42:11.000It's like, here's this charming, handsome black man who spoke so well, and then all of a sudden he's cutting people's fucking heads off.
01:43:56.000There's a bunch of black women, and he's a little white guy, and he's arresting one, and this other black woman comes along, and she's pulling the girl away, and she pulls him away.
01:44:06.000She grabs ahold of him, and he turns around and blasts her right in the face.
01:44:09.000And then all the people are filming, like, oh, shit, no, he didn't!
01:45:04.000I'm sure the mom was a star on 16 and Pregnant.
01:45:07.000That show is just out of control lately on TMZ. It seems like every day there's a new fight or a new person being arrested.
01:45:13.000Well, what it seems like, just like we were talking about with porn, that porn is getting accelerated and getting more and more fucked up.
01:45:18.000Reality television is getting more and more fucked up, too, to the point where how many people are getting pregnant trying to be on that show?
01:48:40.000Well, I mean, I'm predisposed to it, obviously.
01:48:43.000Predisposed to morbid obesity, but look at you, you're so lean.
01:48:46.000I'm kind of the only one in my family that is, though, and I kind of developed a neuroses about it at one point.
01:48:50.000I've always worked out so much that I never had to worry about my weight on TV. But, you know, that idea that it puts 10 pounds on you, that's complete total horseshit.
01:48:58.000That's just fat girls who don't know what they really look like.
01:49:14.000Remember the first time they experimented?
01:49:15.000Like, how do we get this fat bitch to look hot?
01:49:18.000We've got to distort her frame and make it look like we're looking at her through Alice in Wonderland seeing eyeglasses.
01:49:24.000I saw a demo of software now that you don't need tracking markers or any green screen bullshit, but you film an actor doing their performance like you normally would, and it kind of does an Xbox Kinect-style analysis of their frame and builds a skeleton, and then does pixel detection to see where their, you know, I call them Renaissance Fair arms, where the turkey leg hangs.
01:49:41.000It sees where their Ren Fair arms ends, right, and where the scenery begins, and you can real-time dynamically slide how fat, thin, tall, or short a person is, and it will re-render the video.
01:49:51.000To make actors seem bulkier, to make them seem thinner, seem whatever.
01:49:54.000There's demos of it on YouTube right now.
01:49:55.000Well, that 300 shit, what they did with 300. I mean, a lot of people, they showed the 300 workout.
01:49:59.000This is what they did to get in such amazing shape.
01:54:10.000But that was another girl that I also saw around the same time, also in a soft car.
01:54:14.000I'm still waiting to come across, like on a UJs or a RedTube or something like that, I'm waiting to come across somebody in X-Ban in fucking high school.
01:55:50.000Or do you think that there's going to be technology to go back and somehow, you know, get that somehow?
01:55:58.000Yeah, I mean, I don't believe, I believe from here on out, whatever here is, not this year or not today, but there has been a, there was a turning point from that point on, all those ones and zeros exist somewhere.
01:56:10.000Well, the really crazy idea is that at one point in time, there's going to be some sort of a computer that's so fucking powerful.
01:56:16.000And the computing power and what's capable, what they're capable of extrapolating from any given circumstance is that what they're going to be able to do is see the world in every aspect, like every single thing about the world today, and literally put into a computer, how did this get into place?
01:56:35.000How did this get into place in relationship with that?
01:56:36.000And go back in time and literally be able to recreate the entire model of life on this planet and life in the universe, everything from the very beginning to then.
01:56:46.000Until they get back to Jesus creating it.
01:56:48.000Which is only, ironically, a few thousand years ago.
01:56:59.000They can put people's heads and devices and record those electrical impulses and see where they're going off in the brains and then glean the ones and zero data from that.
01:57:15.000So imagine a near future where you put on a cap or you have your Johnny Mnemonic neural implant and you go, I want to go skydiving today.
01:57:21.000Double click and you pay $4.99 for that adventure and it plays back somebody's memory that was recorded of them free-falling for five minutes.
01:58:16.000Like, this is seriously like time capture.
01:58:19.000Like, it's a very remedial, rudimentary form of time capture.
01:58:27.000just captures a 2D image of right yeah so imagine infrared with sonar with feeling scent with feeling potentially right so it's gonna you're gonna capture scenes but you're gonna capture every aspect of a scene so that when you want to play it back it'll be just like you're living in that moment because it'll tap into all those senses you've done the isolation tank I I have.
01:58:44.000You've done it at the same place, the float lab in Venice.
01:58:48.000Because we were talking about Crash, the mad scientist down there that creates these fucking things.
01:58:53.000But he's working on that whole screen setup.
01:59:05.000You don't know where your skin ends and where the warm body temperature water begins.
01:59:08.000And because of that, your body and your senses are zeroed out, right?
01:59:11.000So you're completely open to everything.
01:59:14.000And the idea is that there's going to be an LCD screen in front of you that's projecting the perfect golf swing or projecting how to fuck like Rocco or how to drive a race car like Andretti.
01:59:30.000The point is, his notion is that you'll be able to watch that in a depth tank, and because your brain is so in tuned and open to all these memories, it's going to flood right in.
01:59:38.000The problem is that that's not a pure input method to the brain.
01:59:42.000You're going to be aware in that moment that you're watching an LCD screen.
01:59:44.000There's going to be light beaming into your eyes.
01:59:46.000It'll defeat the whole purpose of sensory deprivation.
01:59:50.000But it also, instead of just sensory deprivation, it minimizes the sensory input and allows you to have more mental resources to concentrate on the video.
02:00:56.000What I'm down with doing it in some sort of a large circular thing where it's much, much larger.
02:01:03.000What I'm thinking of is you're in the center almost like a giant circular pod and above you, Um, there's a screen sort of like, uh, an IMAX screen and that is the input and it's, it's large and circular.
02:01:18.000And when like, say if you're, you know, you have some sort of a video on space, it literally would become the whole sky, right?
02:01:37.000So imagine a projector that's locked in that can quickly and dynamically response to your eyes, maybe moving around or shifting, but that's adjusting focal levels, beaming image A and image B into your eye, giving you that shutter effect.
02:01:49.000You'll be able to completely zone out on something, and your periphery would be flooded.
02:01:53.000You don't want to get in on the ground floor of that one, though.
02:03:23.000Well, we say we're at max based off future projections.
02:03:26.000We're not at max like tomorrow we're fucked.
02:03:28.000We know at the current rate, with babies being born and ozone depleted and so much oil in the ground, we know that in 15, 20, 25 years, we might be fucked.
02:03:38.000So that's why we need to invest in people.
02:03:39.000It's also how much of our energy is projected and used towards making food and how much of it is towards fucking war and politics and nonsense.
02:03:48.000And how the ways we manufacture food right now are making us sicker.
02:04:09.000I have these conversations with people when it comes to the UFC when they start talking about how do you feel about banned substances because so many people keep getting busted.
02:04:17.000Tiago Silva just got busted for turning in non-human urine because apparently he… No way.
02:05:46.000They can test for a bunch of different types of steroids that all work.
02:05:49.000I mean, there's a reason why Barry Bonds got better as he got older.
02:05:52.000I mean, there's a reason why Roger Clemens got better, stayed good as he got older.
02:05:56.000There's a reason why there's a lot of these athletes that are well into their 40s that are competing, and it's chemicals.
02:06:01.000And what they're basically doing is a low-level form of genetic engineering.
02:06:06.000And what they're supposed to tell you is that, well, I mean, depending on what you're looking at, whether you're looking at old people who are doing it, hormone replacement therapy, a lot of people have different takes on that, and they say, well, that's okay, because what they're doing is just allowing their body to operate as if a young body did, and allows them to continue to compete.
02:06:23.000You know, guys play baseball well into their 40s and do well.
02:06:26.000But then you get guys who are like, okay, well, this guy's taking, you know, EPO and he's got twice as much red blood cells as the average person and he has incredible endurance because of that.
02:06:36.000And then this guy's taking, you know, Anavar and he's, you know, got amazing muscle density and he's a fucking animal.
02:06:55.000What eventually it's going to do is they're going to be able to genetically manipulate the code of a human being, and they're going to be able to create human beings that are superhumans.
02:07:03.000So we have to figure out, man, when it comes to...
02:07:07.000Performance enhancing drugs and trying to level the playing field, so they say, you know, as far as like steroids in sports.
02:07:14.000What you have to realize is that this is just the beginning.
02:07:17.000It's going to get way, way, way more complex.
02:07:19.000They're working on myostatin inhibitors where they've used these in mice and the mice Live longer and they jump fucking three feet in the air and they look like Superman.
02:07:26.000I mean, this is going to happen and people are going to start taking this stuff.
02:07:30.000And athletes are going to start taking it because regular people are going to start taking it too.
02:07:33.000Because you're like, fuck, I want to live three times as long.
02:07:35.000I want to be able to jump over buildings.
02:07:37.000And if someone came along and they have a pill and they say, hey, Brian, would you like to take this super athlete pill?
02:07:58.000Athletes are on the forefront of that and trying to tweak and hack their bodies.
02:08:01.000It'll slowly disseminate down to the general public where every day your grade schooler's taking a pill because it's going to make them better at Tetherball.
02:08:07.000Exactly, and you're going to be able to genetically engineer your child from birth eventually.
02:08:11.000You're going to be able to say, I want a 6'6", super athletic, super mesomorph son with an incredible IQ. Talk about class wars.
02:08:19.000That is when it's really – the shit is going to hit the fan.
02:08:29.000But people have to understand that the inequality and the inequity of the world is what fuels innovation and what fuels people competing and competition.
02:08:42.000And in all forms of art, in all forms of technology, in all forms of anything where people are comparing their work to other people's work and trying to compete, It's important.
02:08:53.000I mean, I don't think it needs to be complete and total inequality where, you know, some people are dying of starvation and other people are eating diamonds.
02:09:00.000There's a balance to be achieved there.
02:09:02.000But you have to realize that in competition is growth.
02:09:06.000And that's how all this, that's the motivation, the energy behind all this.
02:09:10.000I just imagine Kanye West starting a new trend of, yeah, I'm eating pure diamonds.
02:09:13.000I just mix it into my fucking smoothies from Jamba Juice.
02:09:48.000Even if it's a PH, don't put meth in the name of something if you want somebody to really try it.
02:09:53.000They're making them illegal and one of the ways they're making them illegal is there's a law that allows you to make things illegal that are next-door neighbors' cousins to things that are illegal.
02:10:04.000They use that with dimethyltryptamine and 5-methoxy dimethyltryptamine.
02:10:10.000DMT, NN-dimethyltryptamine, it was the big one that they used in the 60s, and that was the Army Research Lab.
02:10:15.000They had buckets of this shit, and scientists were getting ahold of it, and that's how Mechanic got ahold of it, and a lot of other people got ahold of it.
02:10:20.000Well, when they locked that shit down in 1970, they didn't know about 5-methoxy dimethyltryptamine, which is actually more potent gram-for-gram than regular.
02:11:03.000And they've done trials with it in the UK. And they find that, oh, these medicinal marijuana, yeah, we can regulate it and put it in pill form.
02:11:09.000We'll call it Sativex and it'll give the same effects as smoking a bowl of sativa weed.
02:11:16.000It's synthetic THC. But they're managed to make a naturally produced product illegal and then sell you the pill form of it, which is created in a lab.
02:12:17.000Are you familiar at all with any of these people, like the Graham Hancocks or John Anthony West to the world, these people that believe that there was...
02:12:26.000A distant civilization that was super advanced, that somehow or another everything fucked up, whether it was because of natural disasters or whether it was because of something man-made, and that we're literally another generation.
02:12:38.000We have rebuilt from 6,000 plus years ago.
02:12:41.000Right, like they sent DNA or sent embryos or whatever and shotgun blasted them out into space.
02:12:49.000I mean, well, no, I think you're talking about something differently.
02:12:51.000I'm talking about stuff that came in on asteroids.
02:12:53.000But what I'm talking about by this John Anthony West and Robert Shock and all these other, what they're subscribing to, Graham Hancock is another one, is that civilization at one point in time, whether it's 10,500, 12,500 BC, somewhere else, was very advanced.
02:13:10.000Okay, so like pyramids and Mayans, they figured it out and then they somehow fucked it up and we survived out of that.
02:13:16.000Well, I think they're pretty sure that the pyramids were built at 2500 BC. But there's also some other shit around the pyramids that's confusing because there's some stuff, there's like certain styles of building and some of them they've found that are like deep, deep underground that they've had to like dig out.
02:13:47.000I think what they're trying to say is that at one point in time we had achieved great heights.
02:13:53.000Whether or not exactly parallel with the way we live today, with technology, it might have been something different.
02:13:58.000It might have been harnessing the power of sun with mirrors and limestone in a way that created a nuke blast as opposed to reactions.
02:14:04.000Or it might have also been a psychedelically based society where we were much more into shamanic rituals and communicating with the spirit world or whatever the fuck that is.
02:14:38.000We also know that ancient cultures have been worshipping cows since the beginning of time, and not even eating them, even when they're fucking starving.
02:15:47.000Yeah, you just take the road to Hana and when you're there at like the Hana Maui Resort, the big old hill, you just climb it at about 6 in the morning, it's everywhere.
02:15:53.000You know the entire Pacific Northwest of the United States?
02:15:57.000The entire Pacific Northwest literally is like a mind of spores.
02:16:02.000It's like one gigantic organism, life form, like a base of spores.
02:16:09.000Psychedelic mushrooms, like there's people that go up there and find them and grow them, but it's all connected with some...
02:16:14.000I mean, literally, if you believe that...
02:16:16.000That psychedelic mushrooms are some sort of a life form from somewhere else, which a lot of people believe.
02:16:22.000Much like they believe that the pansperia theory that we were talking about earlier, that amino acids and all sorts of water and different things came from asteroids, hit Earth, and that started in seeded life.
02:16:33.000They believe that somehow or another these spores came from other planets.
02:16:37.000Because spores can survive in a vacuum, and spores can survive the deep radiation of space.
02:16:43.000And the fact that this is something that permeates one entire part of the country.
02:16:49.000I remember reading something about it.
02:16:53.000If you connected it all together, how far and how wide it is.
02:17:01.000And these mushrooms keep growing in the same space, in the same air.
02:17:05.000I just know that they made me see words come out of somebody's mouth once.
02:17:12.000Yeah, it was at a moment and I could hear conversations in the other room.
02:17:16.000I couldn't hear them, but I could literally see words in 3D text form floating over the partitions in this guy's loft in downtown LA. And I was like, what?
02:18:15.000See, what's weird, Kevin, is that a lot of people, especially that I met through Joe, they're firm believers of like, you just got to eat a shitload of mushrooms.
02:18:30.000Yeah, I just took like half of a half of the eighth recently and had probably the most hardcore visuals I've ever had in my life on mushrooms.
02:19:14.000It's all about the mushrooms, I think.
02:19:15.000Why are you saying how do you know that, dude?
02:19:17.000This is documented throughout human history.
02:19:19.000People have been doing it the shamanic way, where they take this large dose in silent darkness, and they do it, and they have a different experience than when you take smaller doses, and they know what they're doing.
02:19:58.000It also could be where you are physically.
02:20:00.000It could be what you had in your stomach.
02:20:02.000There's a lot of different things, but that doesn't mean anything because you haven't had the full-blown experience of the big dose to compare it to.
02:20:08.000Yeah, but does it even do anything when it gets to a certain point?
02:20:11.000I was going to say, for me, at some point, I don't know what's beyond that because I would have pissed myself and vomited all over myself.
02:20:16.000I can't go any further than that physically.
02:20:18.000McKenna did a lecture once and he was talking about a friend of his that chose to remain anonymous but he was like this like crazy psychedelic guy who every time he did mushrooms his goal was to try to tolerate more and he would go to like 10 grams and have these like you know What you do is you literally completely dissolve.
02:20:37.000You cease to exist, and you make contact with whatever the fuck it is that you're making contact.
02:20:43.000At first, it seems like another life form.
02:20:46.000It seems like some sort of a thing that's communicating with you.
02:20:49.000And then somewhere along the line, it becomes like another world.
02:21:37.000What psychedelic drugs are is there something that allows your body to tune into whatever the fuck it is, to change the chemical composition of your brain, to fuck with your neurochemistry to the point where...
02:21:47.000But to be fair, some would define that as a poison.
02:21:50.000They would say you're poisoning your body and that's why your stomach and your mind is reacting.
02:22:16.000What I'm saying is, you know, I'm absolutely with you that small doses can give you beautiful experiences, but it's a different thing than the high doses.
02:22:30.000I know I had a flight the next day, and I ended up at LAX swiping my credit card from terminal to terminal in the machines, hoping one would recognize my itinerary and spit it out.
02:22:39.000I was like, oh, this was really unprofessional.
02:22:40.000I probably shouldn't have eaten all those mushrooms the night before a flight to New York and a shoot.
02:23:41.000I can guarantee you that whatever that is, if it's just drugs, you know, that just drugs changed me as a human being and made me reevaluate everything.
02:23:49.000You know, and it's still to this day like haunting.
02:23:51.000That's like saying, oh, it's just religion.
02:23:53.000It's just something you believe in that changes every facet of your life that has given you visions and made you appreciate things in a new way.
02:24:23.000It's almost impossible to follow, you know, like to follow the, you know, the origins of the words.
02:24:30.000And it's like, it's really like trippy shit.
02:24:32.000But the fact that this guy's got it locked down to this one mushroom, this psychedelic mushroom that's taken throughout Europe, you know, constantly.
02:24:39.000You know, we know that the Vikings took mushrooms and they would go on berserkers.
02:24:43.000You know, they would get fucked up on mushrooms and then go attack villages.
02:24:46.000You know, I mean, that's how they were.
02:24:48.000Yeah, man, they would get high on mushrooms.
02:24:53.000I started with small doses and then I've done about six times and I don't want to do it again because the last time I did it was so fucking powerful and magical.
02:25:03.000I flew out of my brain and just went kind of canatonic and I saw parallel universes, parallel dimensions.
02:25:11.000Spiraling out of the corner of my eye like I was just sort of floating in this in this abyss and I saw it was rotating it was making a noise it had gravity to it and it was almost like I could see wedges of reality if I couldn't look directly at it it would blind me but out of my peripheral I could see these wedges of reality going by and I was like what is that what is that And something said, just fucking go for it.
02:25:28.000And so I remember reaching out my hand, what felt like my hand at the time, and it slowed the sphere down, and then it sucked me into one of those wedges.
02:25:35.000And I felt like I was a kid running around in what felt like a Russian stadium, for whatever reason, holding a flag, and there was confetti.
02:25:41.000And I was with a bunch of other kids, like it was a halftime celebration or some shit.
02:26:58.000I met some dude named Crash on the boardwalk who was trying to tell me about vibrating my spirit, and then he's like, yeah, I hop in my tank.
02:27:15.000With me, it started out just getting to the center, relaxing, letting go, and then once I let go, then it always feels like once I get to a certain point of relaxation and I've completely calmed my mind, then it starts to take me away, almost like as if I feel like I'm in a river.
02:27:31.000I feel like I'm awash in some sort of invisible...
02:27:34.000You feel like a molecule, like a single molecule?
02:27:36.000Well, as I was doing this, I came to a point where I recognized my space, and then the space of the planet, and then the planet in the space of the galaxy, and the galaxy in the space of the universe.
02:27:48.000And then the whole universe became like this bubble that was trapped inside some gigantic, infinite ball of yarn.
02:27:59.000Of this ball of yarn was like one universe after another universe and they were all together swirling in this moving ball of yarn of universes connected like circles connected even with a tube like they connected them all together and it was all luminescent and it was all I was trying to take in all the information that was going on all these different various worlds but it was all different and all the same and it was all happening simultaneously and as I was trying to figure out like how big this This ball of yarn is.
02:28:29.000It got literally too big for me to wrap my head around.
02:28:54.000Well, just the people that can deep meditate and get to that place versus needing to take salvia or needing to smoke some DMT. I'm not capable of shutting it all off like that.
02:29:01.000But if you do that deep meditating, like the monk life?
02:29:04.000Yeah, if I did it every day and that was my only existence, then sure, that'd be fine.
02:30:03.000And I did and there was this pulsating ball after I went through all these little wormholes and tunnel and it was pulsating to the beat of the music that was happening.
02:30:09.000And I knew that I could go further but I was like, what's going on here?
02:30:11.000And he's like, oh, I'm every issue you have right now.
02:30:33.000One of the most amazing and underappreciated aspects of any psychedelic experience is the work that you do on your own personality and your mind and uncovering all the bullshit that's fucking with us.
02:30:43.000That's why people have, not everybody, but that's why some of my friends have had bad trips.
02:30:47.000It's obvious, oh, I reached a point where I felt like I was going to die and I felt like, no, you were getting deconstructed as a human being and you weren't ready to come to grips with the fact that there might be something bigger than you.
02:30:55.000That there might be something real that you're about to experience and you couldn't let that go.
02:31:54.000Do you think that psychedelics, or have you ever even considered, that they're agents of human evolution and that they're here to rocket you forward and rocket us forward and the reason why we're not monkeys?
02:32:06.000I believe in a mixture of all those things, but I certainly can understand an animal taking something and thinking about a rock in a different way and going, that could be a spear to kill an animal.
02:32:18.000If I can see other planets and have a chat with my Xbox visuals, why couldn't a gorilla in a forest have realized a better way to keep warm?
02:32:24.000Yeah, psychedelic mushrooms have been around in the current state for thousands and thousands and thousands of years, long predating what we know of as human civilization.
02:33:00.000And this chimp is just mouth-fucking the shit out of his frog.
02:33:03.000Meanwhile, hide your eyes from real sex and turn your eyes towards all the slaughter and murder on TV. We talked about this before, but I'll just bring it up one more time before we get out of here.
02:35:42.000And go to JoeRogan.net, click on the link that says Fleshlight, get 15% off the number one adult toy in the world, and Kevin's going to fuck one tonight.