In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, I'm joined by comedian Freddie Lockhart to talk about why black people are superior to white people in the NBA, the NFL, and the rest of the sports world. Also, I talk about the greatest athlete of all time, Kareem Karelin.
00:01:09.000Back in the days, Freddie was trying to make it happen out here in LA, a fresh-faced young boy, and we became friends, and we've been friends ever since.
00:02:26.000You're talking about a positive attribute.
00:02:28.000Why is it racist to say that black people are the superior athletes?
00:02:31.000I mean, if you just looked at the numbers, the number of Michael Jordans and LeBron James's and those guys, those superior, super dominant athletes, very rarely black white guys.
00:02:41.000Blacks make up, what, 15% of the population, American population, less than that, and they make up 90% of the NBA.
00:02:47.000Yeah, with the 500 men in the NBA, come on.
00:03:15.000And the reason why is he fought Rulan Gardner, wrestled Rulan Gardner, and it was a new rule in Greco-Roman where if you lost your grip and then had to reattach it, even if there was no dominance, that guy got a point.
00:03:25.000Just because he made you break your grip.
00:03:48.000He looks like some shit that the Persians would have with a dog collar on, you know, naked with a fucking giant iron cod piece, you know, running at you.
00:03:56.000Pure Russian blood vodka training in the snow.
00:03:59.000Giant savage, just eating reindeers and shit.
00:04:03.000Every once in a while, there is a white guy.
00:04:06.000There's more pure Europeans like that.
00:04:08.000But pound per pound in America, yeah, the black race is superior in sports.
00:04:13.000But here's the misconception is that you're saying that they're limited to that, and that's not the case at all.
00:04:17.000Well, physically, you know, it's also you got to deal with, it's an economic issue.
00:04:21.000People from, especially when you deal with people that are into like combat sports, like the combat one, especially like boxing, that's a serious economic one.
00:04:28.000Very few rich people become professional boxers.
00:04:31.000It's always like it used to be the Jews in New York.
00:04:33.000That was like, you know, Slappy Maxie Rosenblum and all back in those days.
00:04:36.000Like Jews were, a lot of boxers were Jews.
00:04:39.000And then it became Italians and Puerto Ricans and Irish.
00:04:42.000And it was really mostly immigrants that were poor.
00:04:44.000And then eventually, you know, blacks and black athletes.
00:04:47.000But if you look at like greatest athletes of all time, just only a few like Rocky Marcianos in the mix.
00:04:52.000A few guys that were like super dominant that were white guys.
00:04:57.000But given a sport that was dominated by whites, you know, Wayne Gretzky.
00:05:01.000Yeah, and like look at their attributes.
00:05:03.000Gretzky was like very clever and an excellent skater.
00:05:06.000But like Rocky Marciano was known for being just ridiculously durable and just always in incredible shape and would get a hold of you and eventually wear you down and blast you.
00:05:16.000So it wasn't like a Muhammad Ali where you couldn't even fuck with him.
00:05:18.000Like you were in front of him going, what am I doing even in the ring with Roy Jones Jr.
00:05:22.000You remember when Viddy Pazianza fought Roy Jones?
00:05:25.000It was a round where he didn't land a punch.
00:05:29.000It was the only time ever in CompuBox history where they had scored an entire round 100% lopsided.
00:05:36.000The other guy didn't land a single punch.
00:05:56.000Dude, he had some ridiculous attributes, but he had one fuck-up.
00:06:01.000He developed his technique based and dependent upon his physical attributes.
00:06:06.000Instead of going with traditional technique like Bernard Hopkins, Evander Holyfield, guys who do everything textbook, like James Toney does everything textbook.
00:06:15.000Instead of doing that, he went with this big, wide open, loose style that almost completely relied upon his physical attributes.
00:06:22.000So when he started to slow down, he started getting fucked up.
00:06:25.000You know, when he fought Tarver, he got fucked up, you know, and that was coming back from the weight loss because he fought heavyweight.
00:06:31.000And when, you know, he got pumped up and then he came from whatever, legal or illegal.
00:06:35.000I don't know what the fuck he was doing, but he got big.
00:06:37.000He got like over 200 pounds and really muscular.
00:06:40.000And then he drops back down to 170 and you're looking at him and you're like, 175.
00:07:20.000When you get blasted once, man, it's so much easier to get blasted again because then Glenn Johnson blasted him and then it looked really bad.
00:08:26.000It was like the swiftness of when you see a bear hit somebody and their shoulders pop and all that.
00:08:30.000But as he got older, it was kind of like a genre-specific kind of technique of boxing that is a little less traditional.
00:08:36.000It seemed that, you know, like you said, once somebody gets knocked out, once Buster Douglas, who shouldn't have got the best of him but did, once that's opened up, that mess with your psyche and to top it off if you're retarded like him already.
00:09:44.000One of his old guys, Atlas, was somebody like he was training with some, and the dude got the best of him in a spar and Tyson went somewhere, cried, shivered, held his knees, and then came out and just dropped bombs and never looked back.
00:09:55.000A guy who needs it that much, a guy who needs it so much is everything about him, his entire self-worth, entire self-esteem is just all based on him fucking smashing you, just running at you and destroying you as a human, body to body, just imposing his fucking physical will on you.
00:11:34.000You know, when Sugary Leonard was the baddest motherfucker around and like, oh shit, Sugary Leonard, they're going to have a rematch with Thomas Hearns.
00:11:39.000You know, like, it's like it was exciting.
00:11:41.000But you didn't know who was going to win.
00:11:52.000Well, you know what's funny is my granddad's some old school dude loved the Friday night fights and all that and wasn't with Mike Tyson at all.
00:12:25.000Lennox Lewis at his best was a better technical boxer, and he was a hard guy to crack.
00:12:30.000He would have been interesting because by the time Tyson fought him, Tyson was already older, and he had already really lost most of his motivation.
00:12:37.000He was trying to get a payday, and he even admitted it after the fight.
00:13:05.000And then when Customato died and you're pretty much in Don King's hands, I think that creates like, now you have one of the greatest athletes that ever lived, killing machines.
00:13:14.000And if it's in the wrong hands and it's not fostered right, it's going to be used the wrong way.
00:13:19.000Because I always feel like he's got a great heart.
00:14:13.000When you get some beautiful, manipulative person, usually a crazy person, a person that really wants to pretend to be something else and then get into your life and then control it like there's some sort of a fucking parasite that's, you know, put a wheel behind your neck.
00:14:34.000There's a thing that women want to do to a man that has some semblance of success, some power, something where it makes him seem extraordinary.
00:14:41.000If she can dominate him with her pussy, that like robs him of his extraordinary ability.
00:15:57.000But you gotta fucking raise, raising a human being and developing a human being is one of the most complex and demanding tasks a fucking human being can undertake in.
00:16:08.000And one of the most important because it literally, the quality of the fucking society around it is based on how well the people inside of this group are at raising their children.
00:17:06.000Guys will come to you with some stupid shit like, yeah, man, I can't catch a break, man.
00:17:09.000I was this girl, you know, and I thought she was the one and I was ready to get married and I got the ring and I came over a fucking apartment a day early and she's fucking this guy and I can't fucking believe it, bro.
00:18:02.000You walk home with kids and their Happy Meals and mom's sitting on some dude's face.
00:18:05.000Some guy's cock right in the living room hoping to get it done quick before her husband comes home, but they don't time it right and you walk in.
00:18:29.000I don't know if it's the same problem with girls.
00:18:30.000See, that should be a warning sign, though, being hot.
00:18:32.000It must be the same problem with girls because girls wind up with jerky guys and you know those jerky guys must just fuck the shit out of them.
00:19:21.000it's like oh honey i love you so much sometimes we wake up it's like don't even talk to us right but it's like if you can get if if two people can live their lives and not break each other's balls not not not Create drama, that kind of thing.
00:19:31.000I know that sounds very, you know, nirvana and ideal, right?
00:19:35.000But it is possible because I'm not asking for too much either.
00:20:54.000I'm not in it to fix that other person.
00:20:56.000It's like I accept that and then I'll work on the things like myself.
00:20:59.000Like I'll act like my dad sometimes, just clam up and be like a 1950s dickhead dad, you know, just reading the papers, smoking and drinking and don't even fucking talk to me.
00:21:08.000You know, I'll be like that and then I'll have to snap myself out of it because I'll be like, all right, you know, look at it from her side.
00:25:01.000You know, you got to talk puss with a puss smith, essentially.
00:25:05.000It's like in Ron Jeremy, and it's like, you know, sometimes you want somebody, he's an ambassador of what he does, I think it's fair to say.
00:25:22.000I actually found it awesome that at the end of the shoot, he comes up there and goes, so if you want to come to the rainbow room later, I promise not to molest you or something like that.
00:25:31.000You know how many times that got him his dick sucked?
00:25:36.000There was a year ago, there was a celebrity golf tournament that I think was Brett Michaels or one of those guys once a year.
00:25:46.000And every hole, there was like a different porn star or stripper or something.
00:25:51.000And my ex-girlfriend was working the eighth hole or whatever, this golf tournament.
00:25:55.000And there was these two girls with him that were just total like porn stars, like heart, like amateur strippers, slash porn sorts, slash escorts or whatever the fuck.
00:26:45.000Like, what is it like dating some chick that you know that all these other dudes could see her pussy and she's going to tildos in there and stuff.
00:27:54.000You know what the biggest difference is, Joe, is that if I didn't meet her as a normal person and then she got into porn, that would have been hardcore.
00:28:29.000Your body is slowly going to give out on you, and you're going to be left with a wreck of a life trying to fucking look back at it going, why didn't I enjoy this?
00:29:09.000So the folks who don't know what you're talking about, there's a website where a guy we've talked about on the podcast before is really ugly and he fucks all these hot chicks.
00:29:16.000He's ugly and fat and he calls himself the minion.
00:30:35.000And then the guy pulls his dick out and the girl starts sucking things.
00:30:38.000And you can see there's like this weird fucking energy in the air because they both know that they're doing this and it's going to get online.
00:32:38.000Porn stars in California will see stricter safety rules on how they do their thing on set, just like construction worker has to wear a hard hat, they might have to Don condoms and submit to tests.
00:32:48.000They're saying they don't have mandatory tests yet.
00:32:51.000From my understanding, it's already been mandatory.
00:33:52.000He would tell us stories about how he rope these chicks in and how a lot of them are like single moms and they needed money for the rent and how he would hook it up and the next thing you know they would be doing like internet porn for him.
00:34:05.000Yeah, well, I mean, I would imagine everybody recruiting, especially for the internet porn, is going to be sleazy because you're going to go after who's weak.
00:34:10.000It's just like a military recruiter is going to go after a 17-year-old.
00:34:34.000The stories that you really never thought about for years and they're somewhere in the back of your head and then you combine them together and you're like, wait a minute, you guys stop moving.
00:35:55.000Like newspapers and things of the day.
00:35:57.000But to me, it's like, I'm more impressed.
00:35:59.000Like, I wanted to see, since the technological revolution has gone leaps and bounds since 1989 to now, that's what we should have put in there.
00:36:05.000It's like, you know, some outdated shit so we could laugh at it now.
00:36:08.000Have you ever thought about buying one of those off of Amazon or eBay or something like that just to see what it's like to play with it now?
00:36:37.000He's got this whole basement, Nintendo games, as far as the eyes can see, Sega Genesis game, you name it.
00:36:42.000He'll review it, but as an adult, an intellectual adult who curses like a sailor, he'll review the game, and it'll take you back to when you were nine years old and you're playing Rygar or something.
00:36:50.000You're like, how the fuck do I jump over here?
00:36:53.000He uncovers glitches, and he shows you that I was right.
00:36:56.000There was no way to do that the whole time.
00:36:58.000But I got to watching this dude's shit like nine episodes.
00:38:53.000But you know how long this shit's been out, though?
00:38:54.000Go look like the first touchscreen phone was like Sprint or somebody put one out in 1992 and it was a, it's an all-touch screen like color phone.
00:39:03.000It was, of course, it was like $2,000.
00:39:13.000My very first development deal, I came over here, and this guy who was this big executive at Disney had one, and he was showing us all in the office.
00:39:22.000And we were like, whoa, what the fuck is that?
00:40:01.000If he knew that he was going to be that successful, maybe he wouldn't work as hard.
00:40:04.000So in that Journeyman, what happened is he leaves his iPhone back there, and nanotechnology has now sped up 30 years because he left it back in the past.
00:40:12.000So he gets back to his present, and nanotechnology rules the world.
00:40:16.000There's just nothing but like Journeyman.
00:40:51.000I was at Target the other day fucking just looking at cameras because my little digital camera thing broke and so I'm trying to find like a little small camera and all the cameras were out of stock because of the Japan thing.
00:41:03.000And then I read the other day that the new iPhone is now rumored to be in September instead of June, maybe because of the Japan thing.
00:42:39.000If human beings are going to exist in the future thousands and thousands of years from now, what are we going to keep piling up these fucking toxic rods until we have one part of the globe where you couldn't even fly over it in a plane or your fucking plane will melt and everyone will die of cancer?
00:42:54.000How are you going to store all that shit?
00:42:56.000I mean, they have this thing in Sweden, I think it is, where they have a tunnel that goes deep into the earth in this vault they created that'll last 100,000 years just to keep these fucking things in it.
00:45:14.000Somebody finds some loophole in there.
00:45:17.000And shame on Obama's entire administration and Bush's for not putting some literature in that document saying that you cannot, you know, no profit should be made off this from the bankers or the bankers' wives.
00:47:13.000Well, I'm sure he got in, and just like any other aspiring man of, anybody running for president, I don't really think it's been since Kennedy or someone like that who's really in it for, you know, political reasons.
00:47:53.000It's like, look at Nixon, look at all those guys.
00:47:55.000Everybody was, how could you not be president and start to develop some grandiose ideas?
00:47:59.000Yeah, but dude, you got to, financially, it's never been this way.
00:48:03.000It's never been with the deregulation that was passed during the Reagan administration and continued all through Clinton and Bush and all this.
00:48:10.000That has allowed these financial institutions to get into a position that we're supposed to be protected from after the Great Depression.
00:48:17.000After the Great Depression, they put all sorts of laws in place so that banks couldn't get risky with your money and do crazy shit and then wind up losing everything.
00:49:58.000Here's the idea of being president, to get your presidential library built, whether you serve four or eight years, and to sell your book and to get your deal, you know, and to say that you did that in politics.
00:50:08.000Because I bet you George W. Bush is having a dandy old life now and a good old time.
00:50:12.000Hey, Brian, people get real distracted when you start wandering off when we're having conversations.
00:50:16.000I'm actually just trying to fix the lag that everyone's talking about right now.
00:51:28.000The public will demand that I come back.
00:51:31.000But man, you're going out there on some fucking thin branches, son.
00:51:35.000It's very hard for a guy like him to take that Howard Beale kind of zeal that he was taking because at the end of the day, Howard Beale had a lot to say, whereas Charlie Shane has a lot of bumper stickers, a lot of catchphrases.
00:51:49.000But as you're seeing as you go out there, this thing's petering on fumes now.
00:51:53.000And you're starting to realize Alec Baldwin did an op-ed piece, I think like in the HuffPost or something, or a direct letter to him being like, Quit being a douchebag.
00:55:51.000I only know him from very recently from Dirt Nasty, from some of his songs that some people on my message board threw up some of the clips on YouTube.
01:00:34.000But the thing is, I like him, and I'm friends with him, and that guy has actually taken the time to, he really likes comedy and wants to do it.
01:00:40.000Whereas he's just been given a lot early on because he's already famous.
01:01:16.000I see things like that, and I'm like, you know, I see like some guys, you know, the thing like with Kirk and all that, but then I see guys like Bill Burr who take an audience and turn it around.
01:01:58.000I think eventually people are going to wear thin of it and he's going to wear thin of it too.
01:02:01.000Like he wanted to be loved and all of a sudden half the places where he's going, he's getting booed and people are shitting on him.
01:02:07.000He's got the world's attention and nothing to say.
01:02:09.000Yeah, and this is not, I mean, even if he does have something to say, like he did this one weird video where he talked into the camera and he all this shit that he wrote, it was like really produced and written and losing.
01:03:52.000If what's his name wanted to, if Conan O'Brien wanted to, he could do arenas all over the country and he would do, like, he would be in Detroit one night and do his show with no television whatsoever.
01:06:18.000Those guys were almost funnier than Conan to me, but there was that whole New York vibe that it just is missing to me, but I don't know.
01:06:26.000Do you think the vibe is different because it's in Los Angeles?
01:06:28.000It might be, but the thing is, I can't speak intelligently about it because I don't watch it.
01:06:32.000You know, I watched Conan from 93 to 2003, mostly because at first I was a teenager, and then I lived in Hollywood and I didn't have cable at the time.
01:06:41.000There's definitely a different funny vibe on the East Coast than there is on the West Coast.
01:06:44.000I find even my sets are different on the East Coast than they are on the West Coast.
01:06:47.000I find I have to explain less on the East Coast and I can go off into more obscure references and not in a way like super obscure, but in the way that everybody's following along and I don't have to make sure somebody needs to catch up, you know?
01:06:57.000Yeah, I think, I mean, there's intelligent people everywhere, but there's more of them on the East Coast.
01:07:26.000I did that show in, like, I think it was the first, the second comedian on there, and I had heard like nightmare stories when they first started how hard it was.
01:07:33.000Like, the stage was catty cornered to the audience.
01:08:29.000It's a weird thing to, it's like in this business, it's like you can have all this drive, but you have to, it's almost like being in a band.
01:08:35.000You need somebody else to champion that drive as well.
01:08:38.000Like I love music, but I never wanted to be in a band because I don't want to have to rely on the lazy bass player or the coke-head drummer.
01:08:44.000You know, it's like, I want this thing to happen.
01:08:46.000And, you know, when you got a team working for you like that and they're not on board, you're like, son of a bitch.
01:08:50.000Yeah, that's a reoccurring theme with comics.
01:08:52.000You got to make sure you got a manager that knows what the fuck is going on.
01:08:55.000And if you get a bad one, you get some idiot, you get attached to one.
01:08:58.000I have a bunch of friends that started out with one manager and then somewhere along the line, you know, this manager, when some critical decision was to be made, this manager fucked up and they got rid of him and they moved on and got some bigger manager.
01:09:10.000And then they got sued and a bunch of stupid shit happened.
01:09:13.000I mean, you start off with one guy and that guy turns out to suck.
01:09:16.000You know, you're attached to that fucking idiot.
01:09:18.000And he feels like he deserves a percentage of your profits.
01:09:21.000Then it becomes like a marriage in a sort.
01:09:22.000And then you have to break up with this person.
01:10:25.000Got to go in some fucking room and pretend that this guy that you're sitting there with a piece of paper in his hand, pretend that this is your brother and you guys are back at home and dad just got back from the war and he's a little shell-shocked.
01:11:28.000That is the best portrayal of a boxer in a movie where he looks like a real boxer, not some bullshit like Sylvester Stallone movie where it looks like he never threw a punch at a man in a competition in his life where he had to worry about being countered.
01:11:43.000You know, Daniel Day Lewis is hands up, moving, throwing feints.
01:12:22.000He went on a bike ride and he stopped and he's got his bike outfit on his stupid little helmet and he's smoking a cigarette and he is fat as fuck.
01:14:42.000But Jim Cavizzo playing him was really strange because, you know, he got really obsessed with it because he was 33 at the time and Jesus was 33 and his name was JC.
01:14:53.000This movie, this incredibly religious movie that made incredible amounts of money was made by a psychopath.
01:15:00.000Yeah, an absolute exciting now that you look at it in the past and you look at who he is now and you hear those tapes where he's, you should just shut up and blow me.
01:15:12.000Just insane, red-eyed spit flying out of his fucking mouth.
01:17:02.000Have you noticed though, like normal...
01:17:04.000The other day I just realized that for cable TV, I forget how much I spend per month for cable TV, but I would think 95% of the content that I watch is Family Guy.
01:17:13.000Like I'll lay in bed, turn on Cartoon Network, oh Family Guy, watch it for three hours, go to bed.
01:17:18.000But it's like amazing like how much...
01:17:28.000But cable is offering now, like I saw at my mom's, they had like on demand, like you can get HBO Premium, like one thing that aired on HBO.
01:17:34.000But I don't turn my TV on hardly ever.
01:17:53.000the new movie pretty fucking good movie man yeah it's about a guy i don't want to tell you the whole story because i don't want to give it away but it's it's really interesting and it involves time travel yeah it's a pretty dope movie really well handled revisiting his time traveling uh donny darko he was uh that was also a time traveler yeah yeah no yeah true yeah that's a very well-regarded one too yeah it's a good one yeah this is uh this is very interesting.
01:18:18.000I don't know if it's as good as Donny Darko, but I don't remember because I haven't seen Donnie Darko in a long time.
01:18:23.000You know, movies like they become mythical.
01:18:25.000Like Donny Darko is one of those movies.
01:18:31.000There's some movies they seem a lot better because they were a long time ago, and you go back and watch them and you go, yeah, it wasn't that good.
01:19:02.000But Primer is one of those where they really adhere to the rules and the time, you know, the fabric of time and how you can't do this and you can and you get sick and all that shit.
01:19:10.000Like the things, the nuances about actual time traveling that people have taken to study.
01:19:15.000Here's what would happen to your body if you did that.
01:19:17.000Time travel is the most fascinating subject of all to me.
01:20:11.000It's a thing where it's like you see more and more articles that talk about how, in theory, I think it's, I mean, what Einstein proved in theory, it's absolutely possible.
01:20:20.000But now they're really, there's funding, private funding, but funding going towards actually taking this seriously.
01:20:26.000If we're going to take Christ and all that seriously, let's take this seriously.
01:20:29.000Dude, it's just like the nuclear power issue.
01:20:33.000The nuclear power issue is something where they came up with something and they figured out how to do it and then they just went ahead and did it without having it completely worked out.
01:20:42.000They went ahead and did it without having some agreed upon ability to shut it off.
01:20:49.000Without having some agreed upon ability to store all the waste before we start producing it.
01:21:34.000Have you seen the laser that they shot down?
01:21:36.000They did a demonstration recently where a boat was a mile away, and they shot it with this laser and caused the engines to catch on fire from a mile away.
01:21:48.000So they've got some crazy shit they're working on.
01:25:32.000Like Morty Solomon wearing a swastika.
01:25:36.000It's almost the way society is set up right now with like these teen mom shows and the real housewives of Beverly Hills and Kim Kardashian.
01:25:45.000It's almost like the scene in The Running Man when they have those ridiculous shows.
01:25:53.000It's almost like it's getting to this weird sort of surreal point where it's like, wow, this is what everyone's fixated on and fascinated by.
01:26:01.00016-year-olds that get knocked up have a TV show now and you see them scream at their boyfriend.
01:26:07.000Get up, you fucking lazy fat piece of shit.
01:26:30.000We were doing Fear Factor and you know, everybody's like, well, you know, the shows like that, man, are designed by the government to keep you soft.
01:26:38.000They're made by people because that's what people want to see.
01:26:41.000But even the people making them, it's not like they're the grand programmers of the universe and they've done this on purpose to try to lower people's standards.
01:26:48.000No, this is what you want to see, man.
01:26:50.000You really do want to see some dumb shit.
01:26:54.000It's a fascinating thing to be a part of, too, because when we were doing Fear Factor, while we were doing it, we were all going, are they really letting us do this?
01:27:01.000Like, it was, you know, we'd say, okay, we said we're going to blend rats.
01:27:43.000Funny enough, I would watch that show with my nose plugged, thinking, like, just reflectively, I would literally watch like this because I'd feel like I'd catch a whiff of something.
01:27:51.000You know, it wasn't the most fun thing to do, you know, because it was really fun sometimes, but other times it was fucking tedious as hell.
01:27:57.000But looking back on it, I'm like, wow, I was a part of some weird part of fucking television history.
01:28:26.000There's countries that are just now getting, like, I guess apparently my sister's boyfriend is from Germany.
01:28:30.000He was saying, like, you know, they showed Knight Rider, you know, like now there, like, because David Hasselhoff, and they pride him, but they'll, countries will get stuff that we are done with, like, that wrapped in the 90s, that wrapped in the 80s, but they'll think it's new.
01:29:42.000Apparently, he got a house there, and he's like, fuck it.
01:29:45.000He comes on tour in America, but most of the time he spends in Australia sells out like, you know, fucking 20, 30 nights in a row at places.
01:29:52.000I was wondering what happened to him because it's like around the time like him, Dimitri Martin, started getting a lot of attention that seems like one kind of went the other way.
01:29:58.000Well, he went to Australia and just started kicking ass.
01:30:11.000You don't really have to be adept at the language to understand Pablo.
01:30:15.000Well, that's the thing, is the language barrier would, I think, certainly have to keep me in English-speaking only nations, obviously, and even the most Americanized ones, because it's like.
01:30:25.000Well, a lot of Europe speaks English as well.
01:31:31.000Yeah, I watched a documentary on him and they talked about, they addressed the cross-dressing issue, but by the time you get done with the film, he's so fascinating that that's just a little side thing to the point where you don't even think of it anymore.
01:33:06.000This guy picks it up when he's 32, writes Lean On Me, blows up, leaves the music business like 10 years after being in it, sometime around the late 70s, just had enough, and just collects his royalties.
01:33:17.000And mind you, he makes a ton of money.
01:33:19.000He's the nicest, most decent person you ever saw.
01:33:21.000He's from Slab Fork, West Virginia, has this real country way of living, but lives up in the Hollywood Hills.
01:40:13.000The thing is, that's the thing with second-generation hip-hop, dude.
01:40:16.000You better come seriously correct because hip-hop's born in poverty and thrives and struggle.
01:40:20.000And second-generation hip-hop, I don't mind a rich rapper who became rich on his own, but the second generation thing, you know, Harvard West Lake July, die, homie.
01:43:17.000It's a guy who's literally so funny to watch because he's so crazy, but he's the most like, it's funny to watch somebody interact with him like a customer.
01:43:26.000He's just some dude who hangs out there, but they're like, is there bathrooms here?
01:51:32.000Ocean fishing is pretty dope, but there's something about like still water.
01:51:36.000Like when you're, especially with like a topwater lure or a fly, then you cast a fly on still water and just give it a little twitch and that trout comes up and blasts it.
01:52:44.000This same subject came up yesterday when I was on the Adam Corolla show.
01:52:47.000We were talking about cooking your own food and hunting and gathering your own food and how some people are so opposed to it, even though they eat meat.
01:52:57.000We're in this weird stage of getting past being an animal and all the shit that's connected to being an animal, like killing food and causing suffering in order so that you survive.
01:53:08.000We've so separated ourselves from all that shit.
01:53:11.000It's like we've become some weird thing outside of nature that connects to nature.
01:53:17.000We have like agents that do the nature thing for us.
01:53:43.000You know, the thing is, it's like I don't eat the fast food, but it's like I would like, I would be a hunter if I lived out in Montana and I would field dress it and use every part the right way like a real hunter does.
01:54:01.000You really do have to kill them and people need to wrap their heads around that because otherwise you're going to have a massive amount of predators and starvation.
01:54:15.000Well, in Colorado, man, you have to be careful everywhere you drive, especially when in Boulder, because in Boulder, no one shoots them, and they're in the mountains.
01:54:24.000So, you know, you're in a town, so no one's shooting these deer.
01:57:34.000It was like either he's a time traveler or out of style.
01:57:36.000What do you, when you, do you, are you the type of guy that like when you see a powerful woman with some guy behind her who's not really talking that much, do you just automatically assume that he's a bitch?
02:02:09.000It's like the earth could move, but then again, it might not.
02:02:12.000It's man's, you know, it's when people start to say this God stuff and they start to be like, look, look at the, and, you know, it's like, no, there is no God.
02:02:24.000We are insanely curious, and we have this weird desire to test the boundaries and our limitations.
02:02:30.000Yeah, to tame Mother Nature and also to pull off the next new thing, to be able to get power out of this gigantic building that fills up the entire city.
02:02:38.000It's just some, you mean, literally, they're harnessing the power of the fucking sun inside this facility and containing it somehow or another.
02:02:46.000You know, and the real problem is, I mean, they've made some, you know, some safeguards and shit and make things a little bit, they can contain situations a little bit better.
02:02:54.000But clearly, they didn't think of every possible scenario.
02:03:01.000They didn't think of a nine that rattled for five minutes.
02:03:05.000Because when you think of that and you think of a nine, you have to consider if you're putting out a budget for something, how often does a nine happen?
02:03:41.000Yeah, this is another subject that we talked about yesterday on the Corolla show: that this is the exact perfect place geographically, as far as like climate.
02:03:49.000But as far as like the worth of human beings, because there's so many of us, you know, it becomes, people becomes less valuable and they become more aggressive toward each other and more shitty to each other.
02:03:59.000There's way more cool people because there's so many of us because of just sheer numbers.
02:04:03.000I mean, this podcast is absolute proof of that.
02:04:06.000One of the coolest things about this podcast to me is like it reunites me and like makes me realize how many interesting fucking people I know, how many cool friends I have that can come over and we have these cool conversations and then this goes out into the internet and the whole world gets it.
02:04:20.000It's like there's not that many people that have, you know, Freddie Lockhart's and Sam Tripoli's and all these different characters and Duncan Trussells and, you know, and Kevin Pereira.
02:04:29.000There's all these different cool people and Joey and Ari in their life.
02:04:44.000I mean, it becomes like a way of life after a while and you really can't leave it because when I'm outside of Weirdoville, I find the normal people to be extremely weird.
02:04:52.000I find the wants and desires of my friends when I go back, when I go back to Arizona and I hang out with some of my friends, some of them have their youth and they still have kids and they have family, but they maintain their youth.
02:05:02.000But most of them just turn into their parents.
02:05:04.000And it's a really weird thing to me that like they say the apex of their life is over and now it's just kind of like going through the motions where I still like to think the best is yet to come.
02:05:12.000Well you have a different career than that.
02:06:06.000You need to stop doing that because your life is easy as fuck.
02:06:10.000Even when my life is hard, like the difficult shit about my life is all just requires preparation.
02:06:16.000There's no stress because I actually enjoy doing it.
02:06:18.000The real stress comes from something that you don't enjoy doing it, but it requires an extreme amount of preparation, an extreme amount of time.
02:06:25.000And you put all this effort into something you don't even like and you're just doing it just for money.
02:06:29.000You know, like if you're a lawyer and you don't like being a lawyer, you're just doing it because there's a lot of money in it, that will fucking break you.
02:06:35.000And I think that's, at the end of the day, that's what brought us all here is we have that childlike thing in us that says, I want to do this thing I always wanted to do.
02:08:27.000We're going to be at Helium and Philly.
02:08:29.000For some people, that would be unbelievably terrifying.
02:08:31.000The idea that you're going to go there, there's going to be this packed show of people anticipating your material, wanting you to make them laugh, paying to see you talk, and they're going to be drinking.
02:08:42.000But to a lot of people, that idea is horrifying.
02:08:45.000If you went to any town hall or town hall, when the fuck, what am I even talking about?
02:08:51.000Go into any store and take some guy who's working behind the counter, you know, who's a cashier, and say, okay, we were going to, you need, you got one day to come up with a bunch of shit to say, and then you're going to go on stage in front of these rabid animals in some comedy club in Philadelphia.
02:09:06.000That'd be the most terrifying thing in the world.
02:09:07.000But for you, I'm telling you, as I'm telling you, you're getting this big smile.
02:09:43.000You make sure you do your preparation and then you don't get nervous.
02:09:45.000Yeah, granted, there's that fight or flight feeling right before I go to stage.
02:09:48.000Butterflies let me know I'm a human and I'm alive.
02:09:50.000I've harnessed it and I take that adrenaline and make it happy time instead of, you know, and that's like, I think we talked about it last time, that adrenaline is what prevents you from farting, sneezing, having to puke on stage.
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