The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - December 3, 2016

00:00:00.000 And we're live.

00:00:03.000 Eddie Bravo, Brian Callen, Brendan Schaub, Eddie Bravo, the man who introduced me to marijuana.

00:00:10.000 For him I will forever be grateful.

00:00:12.000 For medical reasons.

00:00:13.000 Medical reasons.

00:00:15.000 It's totally legal now.

00:00:16.000 We don't even have...

00:00:17.000 His intensity was...

00:00:19.000 When is that going to...

00:00:19.000 When is that going to effect?

00:00:21.000 It's now.

00:00:22.000 It was midnight that night.

00:00:24.000 What?

00:00:24.000 It's legal.

00:00:24.000 It changes that fast?

00:00:26.000 Yeah.

00:00:27.000 Recreationally legal.

00:00:28.000 Wow.

00:00:29.000 Damn.

00:00:29.000 You have to be 18 or 21. I think you have to be 21. But now with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, if he gets confirmed, can he override the federal power?

00:00:39.000 I do not think that he would go against the will of Trump.

00:00:42.000 And I think that Trump, for all of his faults that you might find in him, he's a populist.

00:00:47.000 And I think the best argument is that a guy like him...

00:00:51.000 You can sort of influence him with the opinion of the country, you know?

00:00:55.000 And so it's kind of an interesting thing because it might be one of the first times ever, like, the opinion of the country might significantly influence some guy who's just completely foreign to the idea of politics.

00:01:06.000 It's kind of a good thing, yeah?

00:01:08.000 He says a lot of great shit, man.

00:01:11.000 He's practical.

00:01:12.000 He's very practical.

00:01:13.000 This is not perfect.

00:01:14.000 Nothing's perfect.

00:01:15.000 Like many things in life.

00:01:16.000 But it might ultimately be a good thing to completely shake up the system.

00:01:20.000 The thing that troubles people that oppose that idea is all the Wall Street guys he's bringing in.

00:01:26.000 Like, right away.

00:01:27.000 He's bringing in all these billionaires and Goldman Sachs.

00:01:30.000 He's bringing in a lot of business people, too, who are practical as well, who understand the economy.

00:01:35.000 We'll see.

00:01:36.000 Listen, it might be good.

00:01:38.000 That might be a good thing.

00:01:40.000 That might be what they need to honestly figure out the economy.

00:01:44.000 I'm not saying it's impossible.

00:01:46.000 I'm not saying it's definite.

00:01:47.000 But isn't it possible that you could be a billionaire and still want to fix the fucked up economy?

00:01:52.000 Of course.

00:01:53.000 Especially if you have everything you've ever wanted.

00:01:56.000 A lot of these guys, they do operate on that infinite growth idea.

00:02:00.000 They constantly want to get bigger yachts, bigger mansions, bigger houses.

00:02:04.000 But it's also possible that a guy could be just an intelligent guy that did really well in business.

00:02:09.000 Even some of the things Trump said himself.

00:02:11.000 He said, yeah, I took advantage of these loopholes.

00:02:12.000 But let's Let's get rid of them.

00:02:14.000 Think about what he did for a long time, which was he owned hotels, buildings, and wanted to give you the best experience possible.

00:02:21.000 A guy like that, who has a massive ego, of course, he wants a legacy he can point to.

00:02:28.000 He wants to go down as the greatest president.

00:02:30.000 He wants to fix Hopefully.

00:02:34.000 That's where his ego is good.

00:02:35.000 My worry is that a guy like that is used to getting his way all the time.

00:02:38.000 The nature of the presidency is one in which you don't get your way, where you have to compromise.

00:02:45.000 A lot of times you get very frustrated with the power you don't have.

00:02:48.000 That's when I want to see how he reacts.

00:02:49.000 He's failed a lot though in business.

00:02:51.000 Like, he's filed for Chapter 11 multiple times.

00:02:53.000 He's had a lot of failures.

00:02:55.000 Sure.

00:02:55.000 As all businessmen do.

00:02:56.000 Most successful people have.

00:02:57.000 I'm just saying, I wonder what's going to happen when he can't convince companies to do his bidding, when a lot of his policies maybe don't give his voter base the jobs they wanted.

00:03:11.000 Because he can't implement the policies he wants, that's when it's going to be interesting.

00:03:14.000 Do you think we'll see an assassination attempt?

00:03:17.000 Jesus Christ, Brendan Schaub.

00:03:19.000 What, man?

00:03:20.000 Trying to mix it up?

00:03:21.000 You don't think it's going to happen?

00:03:23.000 I don't think so.

00:03:23.000 You guys are crazy.

00:03:24.000 I hope not.

00:03:24.000 I don't think so.

00:03:25.000 How many people are upset?

00:03:26.000 It's possible.

00:03:27.000 It's always possible.

00:03:28.000 What kind of people?

00:03:28.000 People have tried to kill the president many times.

00:03:31.000 Most of America because Hillary won the popular vote. 0.98

00:03:33.000 Actually, she only won it by, what, 50, 500,000?

00:03:36.000 The crazy thing about...

00:03:38.000 The debate between Hillary and Trump, yeah, Trump's done some D-bag things or whatever, but when... 0.97

00:03:45.000 You guys know what Pizzagate is about?

00:03:48.000 Oh, I'd love to hear it, Eddie.

00:03:49.000 Are you familiar with it?

00:03:51.000 Pizzagate?

00:03:52.000 Yes.

00:03:52.000 No, it sounds dope.

00:03:54.000 Yes, I do.

00:03:54.000 I've never heard of it.

00:03:55.000 Please explain to me.

00:03:56.000 I'm not going to explain it.

00:03:57.000 I'm not even going to get to it, but all I'm going to say...

00:03:59.000 It's such bullshit, Eddie.

00:04:00.000 Eddie, before you go into it, it's been debunked.

00:04:02.000 It's the biggest bunch of bullshit.

00:04:03.000 It's been debunked!

00:04:04.000 Eddie, [...

00:04:08.000 They proved it's fake news.

00:04:10.000 You're so on that side.

00:04:10.000 And if you believe that, it's ridiculous.

00:04:11.000 You're so on that side.

00:04:12.000 So the power structure in the Democratic Party are pedophiles, and they all communicate with each other with those secret paddles?

00:04:19.000 Is this what we're going to go into?

00:04:20.000 Are we going to pop off like this?

00:04:21.000 Are we going to kick the community off like this?

00:04:23.000 It was proven to be a horseshit story.

00:04:26.000 If you buy into it, the joke is on you.

00:04:28.000 I'm telling you.

00:04:29.000 I'm telling you.

00:04:32.000 That's very unbelievable.

00:04:33.000 It's incredible.

00:04:34.000 So are you saying what?

00:04:36.000 Are you saying that the power structure are pedophiles?

00:04:38.000 This is what I'm saying.

00:04:39.000 This is what I'm saying.

00:04:41.000 This is what I'm saying.

00:04:44.000 It's so fucking dark.

00:04:46.000 All the shit Alex Jones has been saying.

00:04:48.000 He's been saying all that Pizzagate shit for 20 years.

00:04:51.000 He's been saying everyone thought he was...

00:04:53.000 You couldn't believe anything he said because of the things he's saying.

00:04:56.000 Now, when you look at Pizzagate, all that shit he was saying that everyone thought he was crazy for, that shit's real now.

00:05:02.000 It's a fake news story, Eddie.

00:05:04.000 It's a fake news story.

00:05:06.000 Every credible news organization's editorial board, it's all bullshit.

00:05:11.000 CNN? Take both sides. 0.98

00:05:17.000 Take the right and the left.

00:05:18.000 It's a joke.

00:05:19.000 It was a joke.

00:05:22.000 So Eddie, the power structure are all pedophiles?

00:05:28.000 What are you talking about?

00:05:30.000 What are you talking about?

00:05:31.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:05:33.000 Man love?

00:05:33.000 So the power structure are...

00:05:36.000 Listen, listen, listen.

00:05:36.000 Brian's coming up.

00:05:37.000 It's a Joe.

00:05:38.000 It's a Joe.

00:05:39.000 Have you seen the documentary Conspiracy of Silence?

00:05:42.000 Have you seen that?

00:05:43.000 Sure haven't, buddy.

00:05:44.000 Of course you haven't.

00:05:45.000 Sure haven't.

00:05:46.000 I don't get my news from YouTube.

00:05:47.000 I don't get my news from YouTube.

00:05:48.000 I get my news from...

00:05:49.000 From CNN? Washington Post?

00:05:51.000 Incredible news organization from independent lines of inquiry.

00:05:55.000 Joe, can you do me a favor?

00:05:57.000 What is Pizzagate?

00:06:00.000 There's a guy who worked for Hillary Clinton's campaign.

00:06:03.000 His name is Podesta, right?

00:06:05.000 John Podesta, that's his name.

00:06:07.000 There's some pizza restaurant in...

00:06:12.000 Is it in D.C.? There's two of them.

00:06:15.000 Comet Ping Pong and Besta Pizza.

00:06:18.000 And apparently they have art that's like this kind of famous pedophile-like bizarre art.

00:06:24.000 Well, it's two ping pong paddles, which is close to the Man Love organizations.

00:06:28.000 Is that all it is?

00:06:30.000 What about those paintings?

00:06:31.000 Man Love's okay?

00:06:32.000 No, no, no.

00:06:33.000 He's not saying.

00:06:34.000 He's just saying it's just also happened to be two ping pong paddles.

00:06:38.000 Paintings on the wall.

00:06:38.000 But Brian, what are the paintings that they're being accused of having?

00:06:42.000 So the man love has...

00:06:44.000 No, but not the symbol.

00:06:46.000 There's some paintings that we're connected to.

00:06:48.000 Do you know what I'm talking about?

00:06:49.000 There was some very bizarre...

00:06:51.000 It disturbed the shit out of me so much, I said, I don't want to spend any time looking at this.

00:06:56.000 You know what I know for sure, though?

00:06:58.000 For sure, 100%.

00:06:59.000 That Speaker of the House guy, Dennis Hassert, that got put away for like 15 months for being an admitted child molester.

00:07:07.000 The idea that this guy was the Speaker of the House.

00:07:11.000 He was the Speaker of the House, and he was fucking kids when he was a wrestling coach.

00:07:15.000 And eating pizza?

00:07:16.000 No, this is a different guy.

00:07:18.000 I'm just trying to tie everything around.

00:07:20.000 Dude, I don't know what it was.

00:07:22.000 I don't know if it was because he's old and he's very sick and ill, but it means nothing to me.

00:07:27.000 The idea that you could get an admitted kid fucker and you only give him 15 months.

00:07:32.000 That's shady.

00:07:33.000 There's more to the story.

00:07:34.000 I'm sure there is.

00:07:35.000 I'm sure there is more to the story, but the facts remain that that guy got a very short sentence and was the Speaker of the House and was a child molester.

00:07:45.000 I don't want to.

00:07:45.000 I mean, he really 100% was a child molester.

00:07:47.000 There are always going to be pedophiles in that group.

00:07:49.000 Right, but instead of having this gigantic blanket attitude that what he's saying is ridiculous and then getting super emotional about it, let's just look at the actual fact that a guy who was a pedophile was the Speaker of the House.

00:08:02.000 Has nothing to do with this story.

00:08:03.000 You're right, it doesn't.

00:08:04.000 But to mock the idea that people who are pedophiles can't get to high positions of power was exactly what you were doing.

00:08:11.000 It's not at all what I was doing.

00:08:12.000 Were you getting real emotional about it?

00:08:13.000 I was getting emotional because this story was proven through many independent lines of inquiry to be literally a hoax.

00:08:21.000 And when you give it a voice, when it's a hoax, and these people look at it way closer than anybody at this table.

00:08:29.000 It's not about conspiracy theory here.

00:08:31.000 What I'm trying to do is I'm trying to say, guys, guys, hold on.

00:08:34.000 This was kind of a big hoax, and so many different people who looked at it, they don't have an agenda.

00:08:41.000 They looked into it, and they went, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on?

00:08:43.000 So it's a fake story by one of those fake news sites.

00:08:46.000 It's a fake story, man, yeah.

00:08:46.000 So we have to be very careful.

00:08:48.000 Do we really want to spend time on fake stories?

00:08:49.000 Let's talk about fake stories.

00:08:50.000 Let me establish where I am.

00:08:52.000 I know the very brief outline of what it's all about.

00:08:56.000 I know that a lot of people think they're pedophiles and crazy and Satan worshippers, and there was that some spirit cooking thing, some bizarre thing that was released in an email about something that Podesta was going to get into.

00:09:08.000 And that's true, right?

00:09:09.000 Yeah, apparently that's true, but it's like some bizarre...

00:09:13.000 I don't know what the fuck it is.

00:09:14.000 It's dark shit.

00:09:15.000 It's weird.

00:09:17.000 The guy who knows all of it won't speak up over here.

00:09:20.000 You know what, I've looked into it deeply, and all conspiracy theories make sense to me now.

00:09:26.000 I get it.

00:09:27.000 Every single one?

00:09:27.000 I get it.

00:09:29.000 Every single one, sir?

00:09:31.000 Not every single one.

00:09:34.000 Can a guy speak in general terms without being checked every goddamn time?

00:09:39.000 Yes.

00:09:40.000 Of course it's general.

00:09:41.000 When a guy says, oh, he beat him every goddamn time. 0.68

00:09:45.000 Not every goddamn time, but 90% of the time.

00:09:47.000 Do you know who you're around?

00:09:48.000 Do you have to explain this shit every time?

00:09:49.000 Eddie, would you admit- In speaking in general terms, do I have to give you actual numbers?

00:09:54.000 Hey, would you admit that human beings, you and me, all of us, tend to get a feeling, and then we have what's called confirmation bias, which is we'll find, we'll find, we all do it.

00:10:04.000 We all do it, dude.

00:10:04.000 I do it, we all do it.

00:10:05.000 We'll find facts to support our feeling.

00:10:09.000 That's so human.

00:10:10.000 Listen, all you have to do is hear an argument between me and my wife, and I'll fucking justify it any way I can, because I find facts to get to pile on my side.

00:10:17.000 There you go.

00:10:18.000 So let's all be careful about confirmation bias.

00:10:24.000 All I'm saying is to get super emotional and say it's impossible.

00:10:30.000 Like, I don't necessarily think it is impossible if that Speaker of the House guy was in place.

00:10:35.000 This story, in particular, Pizzagate?

00:10:37.000 You just gotta look into it.

00:10:39.000 I know zero about it.

00:10:40.000 But let me, from where I am, I looked into it very little.

00:10:45.000 I'm like, I'm gonna just let this scuffle go on and then look into it when the dust settles in a couple weeks.

00:10:51.000 Figure out exactly what it is, whether it's bullshit or real.

00:10:55.000 It made me, me looking into it, made me want to shut the fuck up about conspiracy theories.

00:11:00.000 Because people get killed with this shit.

00:11:04.000 When you actually look into it, and I'm like Brian Cowan, when you actually look into it, with an open fucking mind, you should trust the government on everything.

00:11:12.000 God damn it, Brian.

00:11:13.000 I trust the government.

00:11:14.000 Dude, you need to be a politician, bro.

00:11:16.000 Eddie, you have me at Pizzagate.

00:11:18.000 You would love that shit.

00:11:19.000 I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

00:11:22.000 You know, I think everybody picks a position, and I bet it's probably not nearly as fucked up as everybody's making it out to be.

00:11:29.000 But there's some weird...

00:11:31.000 First of all, that Podesta guy's, like, really into UFOs, too.

00:11:34.000 I know.

00:11:34.000 There's smoke, there's fire.

00:11:35.000 Guys, guys, guys.

00:11:36.000 No, I'm sorry.

00:11:37.000 I have to stop.

00:11:38.000 Isn't Podesta related to UFOs?

00:11:39.000 Hold on.

00:11:39.000 I don't believe so.

00:11:40.000 Wait a minute.

00:11:41.000 Hold on.

00:11:41.000 I don't care about that.

00:11:42.000 You might be into UFOs and you just stormtrooped over that.

00:11:45.000 You're telling me the truth to something in the middle.

00:11:46.000 What I'm saying is I'm reacting to what I had read from credible sources as being a fake.

00:11:51.000 I wish you could cite what it said and what the issue was.

00:11:54.000 I actually have the article on my phone.

00:11:56.000 Pull it up.

00:11:57.000 Just give it to Jamie.

00:11:58.000 We'll throw it up on one of the big screens.

00:12:00.000 And then we'll knock this out.

00:12:02.000 Yeah, all I gotta say is, I don't even want to get into it, but all you need to do is go to YouTube and watch the Conspiracy of Silence.

00:12:09.000 It's a documentary.

00:12:10.000 How long is it?

00:12:11.000 It was supposed to be on the BBC, but they never aired it.

00:12:13.000 Who made it?

00:12:15.000 Your mother, Kellen.

00:12:16.000 No, who made it?

00:12:17.000 It's important, right?

00:12:18.000 No, it's not.

00:12:20.000 It's not?

00:12:20.000 No, Disney made it.

00:12:21.000 How about that?

00:12:22.000 Would you believe it if Disney made it?

00:12:24.000 What the hell is Pizza Gate?

00:12:25.000 Here it is, Jamie.

00:12:26.000 I'm going to give this to you.

00:12:27.000 Hold on.

00:12:28.000 Just tell him what it is and he'll get it online.

00:12:31.000 He has a computer as well.

00:12:36.000 It's interesting because the two of you guys are so on the opposite end of the whole conspiracy thing.

00:12:42.000 Complete opposites.

00:12:43.000 You tend to immediately go towards conspiracies.

00:12:45.000 He tends to immediately go towards the mainstream.

00:12:48.000 No, no, no.

00:12:49.000 I'm in the middle.

00:12:51.000 No, no, no.

00:12:52.000 I'm in the middle.

00:12:53.000 Guys, guys, guys.

00:12:54.000 I want someone to convince me.

00:12:56.000 It's not that.

00:12:58.000 What it is is I tend to not trust shit they say.

00:13:02.000 He tends to trust everything they say.

00:13:05.000 That's what it really is.

00:13:06.000 That's not a fair characterization.

00:13:07.000 Dude, you're always on the official story side, dude.

00:13:10.000 You're one of those guys.

00:13:11.000 You're one of those guys.

00:13:12.000 You're always.

00:13:13.000 I read credit.

00:13:14.000 These two came in.

00:13:15.000 Washington Post.

00:13:16.000 Not just Washington Post.

00:13:18.000 I mean, not just New York Times.

00:13:20.000 New York Times.

00:13:20.000 No, I read The Economist, which is the second oldest magazine in the world.

00:13:23.000 You read all the propaganda.

00:13:24.000 You read all the bullshit.

00:13:26.000 Do you know how those editorial boards work?

00:13:28.000 You study the bullshit.

00:13:29.000 Eddie, do you know how those editorial boards work?

00:13:31.000 Do you know?

00:13:32.000 Do you really think that the entire editorial board of the New York Times or the Economist or the Wall Street Journal, where people who run the country and the world get their information, do you think all those people are lying, getting together, and being conspiratorial to give us fake news?

00:13:48.000 And for what?

00:13:49.000 Is that really what you believe?

00:13:50.000 That's exactly it.

00:13:51.000 It's been proven.

00:13:52.000 They spent $500 million.

00:13:54.000 Eddie, answer my questions.

00:13:56.000 Do you believe that?

00:13:57.000 Do you believe it?

00:13:58.000 I do believe it.

00:13:59.000 So everything that the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Economist reports, is a lie?

00:14:04.000 Not everything.

00:14:05.000 Then what, though?

00:14:05.000 Just the agenda.

00:14:07.000 Why?

00:14:07.000 Just getting the agenda.

00:14:08.000 Why?

00:14:08.000 Do you know what Agenda 21 is?

00:14:10.000 I don't, Eddie, but I want you to tell me why.

00:14:12.000 Do you know what the New World Order is?

00:14:13.000 I don't, buddy.

00:14:14.000 Of course you don't.

00:14:16.000 Because you think a small group of people are controlling everything?

00:14:18.000 Like the world economy or the oil markets?

00:14:21.000 How?

00:14:21.000 Do you know how oil is priced?

00:14:22.000 Do you know how oil is priced?

00:14:24.000 How?

00:14:24.000 Okay, it's an open market commodity.

00:14:26.000 It's a world commodity, right?

00:14:28.000 So it really depends on how much is available in that given day.

00:14:31.000 So for an example, you may have an oil tanker that's on its way to a country, and then somebody in the marketplace bids on that oil and wants that oil.

00:14:41.000 And that ship will turn back around and go to that market.

00:14:44.000 It all depends on what the marketplace and what all the different players who need oil and the amount of oil that's available, whether it's crude or raw, whatever it might be.

00:14:53.000 There's so many different factors that go into pricing oil.

00:14:58.000 Look at what happened when we came up with ways to get the oil out of the shale sands, right?

00:15:06.000 What happened?

00:15:07.000 The price of oil went down because the United States became an exporter of oil.

00:15:11.000 There was an oil glut.

00:15:12.000 And that's why Russia is having a major problem because their oil used to be $100 a barrel.

00:15:17.000 What is it, $47 a barrel or something?

00:15:19.000 So what I'm saying is that that's how oil is priced.

00:15:23.000 You're talking about a massive organism.

00:15:32.000 So to say that one group of seven men, or whoever they might be, or 21 men, controls things, is holding the strings, is Hollywood movie stuff.

00:15:43.000 It would be impossible.

00:15:44.000 It's hard to control anything.

00:15:46.000 Even in Washington, it's such a chaos fuckjob.

00:15:49.000 You are so far on the other goddamn side.

00:15:54.000 Isn't it possible that the truth's in the middle there somewhere?

00:15:57.000 No.

00:15:58.000 It's not possible.

00:15:59.000 No, but I mean, people of influence, people like the people that run the World Bank, people that have massive influence over just enormous sums of money.

00:16:07.000 Don't you think it's possible they can have some influence due to the relationships that they have with people?

00:16:12.000 They all try.

00:16:13.000 They all try and they do.

00:16:14.000 They all try and they do.

00:16:15.000 He knows what's going on at the top.

00:16:17.000 He knows what's going on.

00:16:20.000 Again, they're competing with each other.

00:16:22.000 There's so many different competing.

00:16:23.000 I totally understand.

00:16:24.000 I mean, that's the issue.

00:16:25.000 The World Bank is a massive bureaucracy.

00:16:28.000 The IMF is a massive bureaucracy.

00:16:31.000 No, I completely understand.

00:16:32.000 I think there has to be some sort of control and manipulation involved.

00:16:37.000 Well, let me give you an example.

00:16:39.000 So let's take the division, let's take the Latin American Bank, which is, I think it's a subsidiary of the World Bank, I believe.

00:16:48.000 And I sat next to this guy on the plane and talked to him.

00:16:49.000 And he said that so much of the sort of projects and the money, what they were there for was to essentially give money to investments in the Latin American economy, to build up the Latin American economy in one way or another.

00:17:06.000 Amazing.

00:17:06.000 And I'm generalizing.

00:17:08.000 What happens sometimes is that that bank no longer becomes necessary because the economy of Latin America, whatever that country is, is running on its own.

00:17:14.000 So now, here's a conspiracy for you, which makes sense.

00:17:17.000 Oh, here we go.

00:17:18.000 But now they go, well, we've got 3,500 people who are working at the Latin American bank.

00:17:24.000 If there's nothing left for them to do, we've got to come up with something for them to do.

00:17:29.000 And now they have a vested interest in staying in business because you've got 3,500 people whose jobs are at stake.

00:17:35.000 Now you can come up with projects that are fake or you'll be like, you guys still need us, you know, because we should do this and that.

00:17:42.000 That makes sense.

00:17:43.000 That would be, if you want to call that conspiracy theory, I would call that people who just want to hold onto their jobs and come up with reasons to exist.

00:17:49.000 Do you know what Operation Mockingbird is?

00:17:52.000 Of course he doesn't.

00:17:52.000 Of course you don't.

00:17:54.000 I don't, buddy.

00:17:56.000 Because if you did, you wouldn't be saying all that shit.

00:17:59.000 Did you hear what I said?

00:18:00.000 Did I say anything that was that radical?

00:18:01.000 I have no idea what the fuck you said.

00:18:03.000 I wasn't listening to shit.

00:18:05.000 Moreno's got a good top game here, son.

00:18:07.000 It's been a good fight, too.

00:18:08.000 Moreno's got a good top game.

00:18:09.000 Look into Operation Mockingbird.

00:18:11.000 Strong.

00:18:11.000 Where can I look that up?

00:18:13.000 Anywhere.

00:18:13.000 At the library.

00:18:15.000 At the library.

00:18:16.000 The library won't have it.

00:18:18.000 Operation Mockingbird.

00:18:18.000 Show it up, Jamie.

00:18:19.000 Why do you believe...

00:18:20.000 Do you know what Operation Mockingbird is?

00:18:22.000 Why do you believe in all these conspiracy theories that got...

00:18:25.000 Operation Mockingbird is not a conspiracy theory?

00:18:27.000 That's not a conspiracy theory.

00:18:28.000 But why do you believe a documentary on YouTube over...

00:18:31.000 The Economist.

00:18:32.000 Why would you believe, and you don't even know who made it, but you believe in a documentary versus...

00:18:36.000 You're talking about some shit you've never seen.

00:18:39.000 Just because it's on YouTube, it's like, it's not real, it's on YouTube.

00:18:42.000 You don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about.

00:18:45.000 You're talking about some documentary.

00:18:47.000 You believe that documentary.

00:18:48.000 You don't even know what it is.

00:18:49.000 You don't even know what it is.

00:18:50.000 You don't even know what it is.

00:18:52.000 You've never even seen it.

00:18:53.000 Why do you believe it?

00:18:54.000 Because I've seen it.

00:18:55.000 And I've seen people talk.

00:18:57.000 And there's evidence.

00:18:58.000 I see the evidence.

00:18:59.000 I don't read about it.

00:19:00.000 I see the evidence.

00:19:01.000 Can I step in as both of your friends?

00:19:03.000 Absolutely.

00:19:03.000 We've gotten so crazy here that you guys are arguing and we didn't even discuss what this movie's about.

00:19:10.000 Like, it hasn't even been whether or not it is a Operation Mockingbird, whether it was a conspiracy theory or whether it was a real event.

00:19:17.000 We didn't even discuss what it is and you guys are at each other's throats.

00:19:20.000 It's kind of crazy.

00:19:21.000 I mean, we literally didn't even bring up what the subject is and Brian, you jumped on him.

00:19:29.000 Uh, no, no, I did not.

00:19:30.000 They both jump on each other.

00:19:31.000 Excuse me, sir.

00:19:32.000 You did.

00:19:32.000 Excuse me, sir.

00:19:33.000 You did, because this seems to be a real thing.

00:19:35.000 Excuse me, you started talking about Pizzagate.

00:19:35.000 You can't say it's a real thing because of Wikipedia.

00:19:38.000 It's on the internet.

00:19:39.000 Sir?

00:19:40.000 Sir?

00:19:41.000 You brought up Pizzagate.

00:19:42.000 All I did with Pizzagate is a library.

00:19:44.000 I fucking for sure didn't bring it up.

00:19:46.000 No, he brought up Pizzagate.

00:19:48.000 I'm pointing my finger at you, motherfucker. 0.70

00:19:49.000 There's no way.

00:19:50.000 I was saying, please don't bring up Pizzagate.

00:19:53.000 I just want to know what Pizzagate was.

00:19:54.000 You fucking...

00:19:55.000 You're the fucking shitster!

00:19:56.000 I don't even want to talk about it!

00:19:58.000 And I don't even want to talk about it!

00:20:00.000 You! 0.99

00:20:00.000 He's the guilty fuck! 0.99

00:20:01.000 Everybody brings it up!

00:20:03.000 And I don't even- You brought it up!

00:20:04.000 No, look at him!

00:20:06.000 He's the one who's the shitster!

00:20:07.000 I've never heard of pizza game!

00:20:08.000 I was fucking interested!

00:20:10.000 Then you should- Oh, did you bring it up?

00:20:12.000 Yeah!

00:20:12.000 You son of a- You son of a bitch.

00:20:14.000 You threw kindling on the fire.

00:20:15.000 We should have talked beforehand.

00:20:16.000 Why did I think Eddie brought it up the whole time?

00:20:18.000 I'm like, I can't believe they're fighting over something called Pizzagate.

00:20:21.000 He said Pizzagate, and I was like, holy shit, that sounds interesting.

00:20:24.000 You had me at Pizzagate.

00:20:25.000 I wanted to know what it was.

00:20:27.000 But I just wanted to say, because a lot of people on the internet want me to bring that shit up, and I'm like, I really don't want to bring it up.

00:20:33.000 That's some scary shit.

00:20:33.000 When you really look into it, shit that you've never done, when you actually look into it, when you look into it, doesn't even know...

00:20:42.000 Operation Mockingbird is a CIA operation where they were to prevent and control communism, infiltration.

00:20:50.000 They thought it would be best to buy up as many different broadcasting companies.

00:20:57.000 They wanted to own the media.

00:20:59.000 They wanted magazines, newspapers.

00:21:02.000 CNN is part of that shit.

00:21:04.000 Anderson Cooper is admitted a CIA agent.

00:21:07.000 He admits it.

00:21:08.000 He goes, yeah, I was in the CIA, so what?

00:21:11.000 He actually worked for them when he was in college.

00:21:14.000 Is that what it was?

00:21:15.000 He did an internship or something like that?

00:21:18.000 You don't have to go to the CIA college to be a CIA agent.

00:21:22.000 They make random dudes internationally.

00:21:25.000 Look at me.

00:21:27.000 Anderson Cooper's not a CIA agent.

00:21:29.000 He could be.

00:21:30.000 Look into it.

00:21:30.000 Guys, look into it.

00:21:31.000 He worked for the CIA. Look, CIA had Operation Mockingbird.

00:21:35.000 We're going to control the media.

00:21:37.000 You buy into the media.

00:21:38.000 That's why you don't know about Operation Mockingbird.

00:21:41.000 You've been caught.

00:21:41.000 They got you.

00:21:42.000 I don't buy into the media.

00:21:44.000 Oh, they got you.

00:21:45.000 I do not buy into the media.

00:21:46.000 Dude, they got you strong, son.

00:21:47.000 A long time ago, too.

00:21:48.000 I bet you're pro-vaccine, right?

00:21:50.000 Okay, there you go, of course.

00:21:52.000 You're anti-vaccine all the way across?

00:21:54.000 Okay.

00:21:55.000 You're not really...

00:21:56.000 Not for smallpox, diphtheria, measles, and all the things, and mumps, and all the things.

00:22:01.000 That's all fake shit, B. All vaccines aren't the same.

00:22:04.000 So when you talk about vaccines, they're not all the same.

00:22:06.000 Some can be safe, and some can be dangerous.

00:22:09.000 That's true.

00:22:10.000 I can understand that.

00:22:11.000 That's all I'm going to say about that.

00:22:12.000 That's all right.

00:22:12.000 That's a reasonable thing.

00:22:13.000 I agree with Eddie on that.

00:22:14.000 Many doctors agree on that.

00:22:16.000 Yeah.

00:22:17.000 Yeah.

00:22:18.000 You know what happened in 1986?

00:22:19.000 Ronald Reagan signed a bill that made Big Pharma immune to lawsuits.

00:22:25.000 Because Big Pharma was about to say, fuck making vaccines.

00:22:28.000 Too many people are suing us.

00:22:29.000 So Ronald Reagan had to come in and say, keep making them.

00:22:31.000 I'll make a bill where no one can sue you.

00:22:34.000 No, but they can't be sued.

00:22:35.000 They can't be sued.

00:22:37.000 Big Pharma gets sued all the time.

00:22:39.000 They don't get sued.

00:22:40.000 For vaccines.

00:22:41.000 For vaccines.

00:22:42.000 They can't get sued for vaccines.

00:22:44.000 If you want to sue anybody for vaccines, your kid gets fucked up from vaccines, you go to the vaccine court.

00:22:48.000 It's a federal agency where they give out I don't know how many fucking billions of goddamn dollars.

00:22:54.000 People have allergic reactions to vaccines.

00:22:56.000 Of course, of course.

00:22:58.000 But since 1986, what happened is since 1986, since Big Pharma said, shit, we can't get sued, that's when if you actually look at vaccines and not just go, polio, what about polio?

00:23:10.000 What about smallpox?

00:23:11.000 When you look at what happened, they fucking greenlit.

00:23:14.000 They're like, each vaccine's worth like a trillion dollars.

00:23:16.000 And they went, bing, bing, bing.

00:23:17.000 So now the kids have 36 fucking shots.

00:23:20.000 64. It's crazy.

00:23:22.000 No, no, but that's the problem.

00:23:24.000 That's reasonable.

00:23:24.000 So that would make sense.

00:23:26.000 So if you said to me, hey, Bri, once the pharmaceutical companies saw that there was a lot of money in giving preventative vaccines, and it goes up to 64 when it used to be 6 or 10 or whatever when I was a kid, now...

00:23:39.000 Now you go, oh, well that makes sense, because what does Big Pharma do?

00:23:44.000 They manipulate the FDA, they manipulate government.

00:23:47.000 The CDC? Yes.

00:23:48.000 They own the CDC. Right, so that they can then make money.

00:23:50.000 Brian, what you're saying sounds very much like a conspiracy.

00:23:53.000 No, no.

00:23:54.000 All of a sudden he's fucking...

00:23:56.000 It's the weed setting.

00:23:58.000 That black helicopter is the weed setting.

00:24:01.000 You don't even know what Operation Mockingbird is.

00:24:03.000 You don't know that you're caught in a CIA operation.

00:24:05.000 You don't even know that.

00:24:07.000 That's not conspiracy.

00:24:09.000 That makes sense from a business point of view, which I can understand is insidious when you have huge corporations in cahoots with government.

00:24:18.000 Dangerous and shit.

00:24:19.000 They don't care.

00:24:20.000 We can't get sued.

00:24:21.000 Why test?

00:24:21.000 They're green.

00:24:22.000 They're convincing the CDC with money.

00:24:25.000 Hey, pass this motherfucker really quick. 1.00

00:24:27.000 Major points for using in cahoots in a sentence correctly.

00:24:30.000 In cahoots.

00:24:31.000 5,000 points.

00:24:32.000 It's just common sense.

00:24:33.000 It's a racket.

00:24:34.000 Common sense, really.

00:24:35.000 They own the media.

00:24:36.000 You don't think the fucking people that run shit own the media?

00:24:39.000 You gotta be an idiot to fucking not think...

00:24:41.000 The people that run shit own the media, own entertainment, own everything!

00:24:45.000 It doesn't mean...

00:24:47.000 Gangsters!

00:24:49.000 People that run this shit don't own the fucking media!

00:24:51.000 You don't own the TV, you dumb motherfucker!

00:24:54.000 It doesn't mean that you can't get credible information On a lot of topics, like the economy, like the war, whatever it is, if you know where to look, it doesn't mean you can't get credible information on the truth of what's going on.

00:25:09.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:25:10.000 But to Eddie's point, that shit Washington Post is all...

00:25:13.000 Well, they're very liberal.

00:25:16.000 The mainstream media...

00:25:18.000 It's all controlled.

00:25:20.000 That ain't real shit.

00:25:21.000 That's all controlled.

00:25:22.000 It's part of the agenda.

00:25:23.000 It's all slowly, inch by inch, take away the guns, and let's fucking, let's control everybody and implode economies, fucking start civil wars.

00:25:33.000 They love that shit.

00:25:33.000 But I don't think they like that.

00:25:35.000 I think that the- They love that shit.

00:25:36.000 If you said to me that the mainstream media And whether it's on the right or the left, has agendas and has been corrupted and has allowed their own personal points of view to infiltrate the news and so report unfairly and so report in a biased fashion and the news is no longer as objective as it was or should be.

00:25:59.000 I think it's a sham.

00:26:00.000 Now that makes sense.

00:26:01.000 If you say, for example, that GTE or GE owns certain news organizations, then that's a conflict or could be a conflict of interest.

00:26:09.000 And we have to be very careful because they may not report on GE's practices if they're irresponsible.

00:26:16.000 Now I can have a conversation because that would make sense to me.

00:26:19.000 That would make sense because – but when you say that everybody in the New York Times, the Washington Post is a CIA pawn.

00:26:27.000 This is what I'm saying.

00:26:28.000 There's an operation that the CIA – this is not a conspiracy theory.

00:26:32.000 Operation Mockingbird.

00:26:35.000 There's Operation Paperclip taking all the Nazis after World War II, Operation Paperclip taking thousands of Nazi scientists into the government and creating NASA, NASA Nazi scientists, and you believe... 0.83

00:26:51.000 They're masters of propaganda.

00:26:53.000 The Nazis were masters. 0.96

00:26:55.000 They put out films just to get people, just to get people, the people to get used to killing people like if they were a certain condition.

00:27:03.000 They put out propaganda films, and you can watch this shit, Deranged people on the street killing people.

00:27:11.000 People thought they would watch these newsreels, and they thought there was demented people on the streets killing people, and that was never happening.

00:27:18.000 They just wanted the people to agree that we can kill those people, right?

00:27:22.000 Because they're crazy.

00:27:23.000 Yeah, because they're crazy.

00:27:24.000 No one's killing anybody, but it was all part of a propaganda agenda.

00:27:28.000 Can I give you a little perspective on that?

00:27:29.000 So Einstein came from Germany, and a lot of the Jewish scientists in the 30s, when there was this rise of anti-Semitism, migrated, immigrated, To the United States.

00:27:39.000 What about the Nazis forming NASA? NASA. What about that? 0.85

00:27:45.000 When we realized that the Nazis were very close to creating a nuclear bomb, that they had some really amazing scientists. 0.67

00:27:51.000 Amazing!

00:27:52.000 Knew a lot of stuff.

00:27:53.000 I mean, there was a real scientific tradition.

00:27:55.000 Remember, that's where Einstein came out of.

00:27:58.000 In fact, the anti-Semitism that rose up in the 30s is why a lot of historians have credited the United States' ability to create a nuclear bomb before the Nazis because of that immigration.

00:28:11.000 So anti-Semitism in Germany actually pushed a lot of these brilliant scientists toward the U.K., toward the United States.

00:28:17.000 Didn't a bunch of the Nazi guys go to Russia as well?

00:28:21.000 Half of them went to Russia, half of them went to the States.

00:28:24.000 Operation Paperclip, that's another one.

00:28:26.000 Probably when Russia took half of Germany, remember? 0.89

00:28:30.000 So there was East Berlin and West Berlin.

00:28:32.000 East Germany, West Germany.

00:28:33.000 So when they took East Germany, nobody was getting out of East Germany.

00:28:36.000 It was understandably.

00:28:37.000 Look, if you're going to be intelligent and pragmatic and the war is essentially over, right?

00:28:41.000 It's understandable to want to get their brightest minds and bring them over.

00:28:47.000 Of course.

00:28:47.000 You've already conquered them, right?

00:28:49.000 This is post-World War II. To let them linger and become used by the establishment that you just defeated, that's crazy.

00:28:57.000 These are super geniuses.

00:28:59.000 If you're a genius...

00:29:00.000 Dude, these guys are fucking torturing people and experimenting on people.

00:29:04.000 Not these physicists.

00:29:07.000 Well, who knows?

00:29:08.000 Listen, we don't know.

00:29:09.000 We don't know.

00:29:10.000 But I do know that the Simon Wiesenthal Center said that if Wernher von Braun, who was the head of NASA, if Wernher von Braun was alive today, they would prosecute him for crimes against humanity.

00:29:19.000 Because he was instrumental in coming up with weaponry that killed a lot of, you know, the Allies.

00:29:25.000 It was that.

00:29:25.000 It was also that they hung the five slowest Jews every day in front of his rocket factory in Berlin.

00:29:32.000 The ones who worked the slowest.

00:29:35.000 They would hang them.

00:29:37.000 These guys remembered it.

00:29:39.000 These guys who lived in Miami.

00:29:42.000 The guys who lived in Miami that were in the concentration camps, they interviewed them for this documentary on the moon landings and NASA and all the scientists behind it, and they were saying that they would see those guys come in, they would see those scientists come in, and they would hang the five slowest Jews in front of the building.

00:30:00.000 Those are the guys that were running NASA. That's the least of what went on in Nazi Germany.

00:30:04.000 You don't know what went on.

00:30:05.000 I mean, we don't know.

00:30:06.000 Come on, man.

00:30:07.000 I don't know what went on.

00:30:08.000 I studied.

00:30:08.000 That was my area of focus.

00:30:10.000 Mainstream science?

00:30:11.000 I was a history major.

00:30:11.000 Mainstream science?

00:30:13.000 That was my area of focus, Nazi Germany. 0.89

00:30:14.000 Hey, maybe I'm wrong.

00:30:15.000 Maybe you're right about the Nazis and I'm wrong, but they seemed like they were fucking sick, twisted motherfuckers.

00:30:22.000 That's what they seem like.

00:30:23.000 Well, they were.

00:30:23.000 But maybe they weren't.

00:30:25.000 Maybe you're right.

00:30:25.000 Maybe they weren't.

00:30:26.000 Who's saying they weren't?

00:30:26.000 You were calling them amazing and geniuses.

00:30:28.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:30:29.000 We're talking about the scientists.

00:30:31.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:30:32.000 The scientists were the guys.

00:30:35.000 Eddie, Eddie, the scientists involved in the nuclear program.

00:30:39.000 They were doing crazy shit.

00:30:41.000 Hold on, Eddie.

00:30:41.000 There's different scientists that are the medical scientists versus different scientists that are engineers versus different scientists that are working towards nuclear weapons.

00:30:49.000 But they were Nazis, though. 0.68

00:30:52.000 No, Eddie, many of the scientists were Jews. 0.83

00:30:54.000 And they weren't killed because they were instrumental.

00:30:56.000 They were too valuable.

00:30:58.000 All right, so NASA's fine.

00:31:00.000 At most, they're fine.

00:31:01.000 Well, a lot of the inventions that were made by the Haber method, That was made by a guy who was a Jewish guy, which is a crazy story. 0.97

00:31:09.000 Amazing.

00:31:09.000 He also created something called Zyklon A, which was a gas that had a smell added to it so it would warn you that the gas was present.

00:31:19.000 It was an insecticide, right?

00:31:20.000 Exactly.

00:31:21.000 And the Nazis took it and they switched it to Zyklon B. They took the smell out of it so that you wouldn't smell it, and then they used it in the gas chamber. 0.53

00:31:29.000 So this guy who invented the Haber Method, where 50% of the nitrogen that's in most of the human beings on the planet Earth comes from.

00:31:35.000 Because nitrogen is how you fertilize. 0.96

00:31:37.000 You create fertilizer.

00:31:38.000 And this guy figured out how to draw nitrogen out from the atmosphere.

00:31:41.000 But this is how complicated he was.

00:31:42.000 He was a Jewish guy.

00:31:43.000 And while he was winning the Nobel Prize for the Haber Method, he was also being wanted for crimes against humanity because he figured out how to gas people, too. 0.94

00:31:57.000 Because he was a German patriot.

00:31:58.000 Exactly.

00:31:59.000 And there was a war going on.

00:32:01.000 They were using gas warfare for the first time on the Allies.

00:32:04.000 So at the same time that he created this method that's going to double the population of the world like that.

00:32:11.000 It saved a lot of people from starvation during the winter.

00:32:13.000 There's so much more food available now because most people don't know.

00:32:17.000 You've got to throw something into the ground in order for the soil to...

00:32:21.000 It's supposed to be a cycle.

00:32:23.000 Things are supposed to die on it.

00:32:24.000 Those things get absorbed into the cycle of the soil.

00:32:27.000 The soil is nutrient-rich, powerful, healthy plants grow from it.

00:32:32.000 But when you just keep putting corn in the same spot over and over and over again, you've got to throw some shit into the soil.

00:32:39.000 And Fritz Haber figured out how to get it out of the air itself, because the air is like 80% nitrogen.

00:32:46.000 You think of the air as being mostly oxygen.

00:32:49.000 You know, you think oxygen and carbon dioxide.

00:32:51.000 No, it's mostly nitrogen.

00:32:53.000 Isn't that incredible?

00:32:54.000 So this guy is fucking genius.

00:32:55.000 Did you read that on the library or the internet?

00:32:57.000 No, that was on the internet?

00:32:58.000 This is just a fact.

00:33:00.000 But where'd you read that?

00:33:01.000 I heard it on the radio lab, but then I read it all over the place.

00:33:04.000 On the internet or in the library?

00:33:06.000 I read it on the internet.

00:33:07.000 Fuck.

00:33:08.000 That's bullshit, then.

00:33:09.000 Anyway, this hobber method.

00:33:11.000 Hey, man, you're being sarcastic.

00:33:13.000 Forget about politics and nonsense for a second.

00:33:17.000 Just think about what a genius you have to be to figure out how to pull nitrogen out of the air and put it in the soil, and all of a sudden everything grows better.

00:33:26.000 Yeah, smart dude.

00:33:27.000 But what's also amazing is how complicated human beings are because it raises some really interesting questions.

00:33:32.000 The guy invents the gas that was used on the Jews, his own people.

00:33:35.000 However, he invented chemical weaponry because he was a German patriot and wanted Germany to win World War I and said, I have a better way to do this.

00:33:45.000 And so you put yourself in his position.

00:33:47.000 It raised a lot of difficult questions.

00:33:50.000 Oh, yeah.

00:33:50.000 Well, he was a super complicated person.

00:33:52.000 Yes.

00:33:53.000 As are we all.

00:33:54.000 And like many geniuses, many like really fucking smart people like that are fucking very complicated.

00:34:01.000 Why didn't the Nazis just shoot the Jews? 0.54

00:34:07.000 Like line them up and just shoot them?

00:34:08.000 They did.

00:34:08.000 They did a lot of that.

00:34:09.000 They did six million of them.

00:34:10.000 Why would they buy the gas and then they gotta drag them out?

00:34:12.000 Because it was easier.

00:34:13.000 They gotta drag them out of the showers. 1.00

00:34:15.000 They did a lot of different things.

00:34:16.000 Just put them in a room.

00:34:17.000 They starved them.

00:34:17.000 Yeah, they did a lot of different shit.

00:34:18.000 Put them in a room, they gas them, and then they all die.

00:34:20.000 Have you?

00:34:21.000 And then who's gonna drag them out?

00:34:22.000 Eddie, have you ever seen- Who drags them out?

00:34:24.000 You know, heavy body, dead body.

00:34:25.000 Oh wait, you're saying that- No, I'm just saying, why not just shoot them?

00:34:28.000 No, he's saying, why not just shoot them?

00:34:30.000 I would have thought, like, gassing them.

00:34:31.000 They did shoot them.

00:34:32.000 It seems like sick and perverted and twisted.

00:34:35.000 Like, let's gas them.

00:34:37.000 Exactly.

00:34:38.000 Why gas them?

00:34:39.000 Why not just shoot them?

00:34:40.000 A lot of times when they gas them, they didn't know they were getting gassed, too, right?

00:34:43.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:34:43.000 Why not just shoot them?

00:34:44.000 So you're going to have to drag them out.

00:34:46.000 So can I tell you why?

00:34:46.000 Mexicans, that's the way they do it.

00:34:48.000 They dig a big-ass fucking hole with a big-ass... 0.99

00:34:51.000 Tell them about the cartels?

00:34:51.000 And then they just line them up.

00:34:53.000 But you know what they did?

00:34:54.000 They've got to clean up.

00:34:55.000 They're thinking ahead.

00:34:56.000 But they did that in the Russian countryside.

00:34:58.000 You can see video of it.

00:35:00.000 They dug massive graves and they'd make them dig their own graves. 0.52

00:35:04.000 And then they would just shoot them now.

00:35:05.000 But what happened?

00:35:06.000 Put them in the shower.

00:35:07.000 You've got to drag them out of the shower and they've got chemicals all over them. 1.00

00:35:10.000 But listen, what they would do is when they would bring them on the trains to Auschwitz, Tripolinka, and Dachau and all the different death camps, they couldn't...

00:35:17.000 If they started lining people up, what would happen?

00:35:19.000 Especially women and children. 0.91

00:35:20.000 Hysteria.

00:35:21.000 Hysteria.

00:35:21.000 So what they said is they'd get off the train after this horrible train ride and they'd say, here's a bar of soap.

00:35:26.000 You're going to take a shower.

00:35:28.000 Yes.

00:35:28.000 They'd put them all in these...

00:35:30.000 They'd trick them.

00:35:30.000 And they'd trick them.

00:35:31.000 They'd be in these showers, quote-unquote showers. 0.88

00:35:33.000 But some would take showers, right?

00:35:35.000 What's that?

00:35:35.000 Some actually would take showers, and some would be killed.

00:35:38.000 That's right.

00:35:38.000 So they didn't know.

00:35:39.000 So the strong...

00:35:40.000 So they mixed it up.

00:35:41.000 The ones that looked strong, they could use for work, they would work...

00:35:44.000 And the ones who were children went right away.

00:35:47.000 The ones who were healthy, too.

00:35:48.000 But the gas thing seems so twisted.

00:35:49.000 It seems so...

00:35:50.000 Why not just make them drink?

00:35:52.000 They did a lot of horrible things.

00:35:54.000 That's what I'm talking about!

00:35:55.000 Dude, no one's...

00:35:56.000 That's NASA! You guys are saying they're all anti-Nazi.

00:35:59.000 But hold on a second.

00:36:00.000 Inventative gas to kill Jews.

00:36:02.000 I'm like, what the fuck?

00:36:04.000 There's always going to be a difference between concentration camp guards and scientists.

00:36:09.000 Those guards must have been buff.

00:36:10.000 But that's the same thing as us.

00:36:12.000 It's like saying that you, as a martial artist, you train people at a fight, you probably have some connection with someone who's a corrections officer.

00:36:20.000 I do.

00:36:21.000 You know what I'm saying, though?

00:36:22.000 You do.

00:36:23.000 You know, but how much do you have an effect over what they do with their life?

00:36:27.000 The people who are working as corrections officers are probably, or the guards, rather, at Auschwitz, are probably so far removed from the fucking scientists.

00:36:36.000 It's not like they all get together and go, we're all evil, right?

00:36:39.000 Yeah, what are you doing today for evil?

00:36:41.000 Oh, I'm torturing the Jews. 1.00

00:36:42.000 What are you doing?

00:36:43.000 I'm going to go with the Nazis are evil, all of them. 0.97

00:36:46.000 No, Eddie, 100%.

00:36:47.000 That's not what I'm saying.

00:36:48.000 No.

00:36:49.000 100% anybody who's subscribed to that ideology is evil.

00:36:52.000 100%.

00:36:52.000 Eddie, Eddie, please.

00:36:54.000 No, Eddie, you know what?

00:36:58.000 The scientists didn't have a choice.

00:36:59.000 They had to work.

00:37:00.000 You couldn't say to the Hitler, the Nazi regime, hey, guys, I'm not going to work on your super bomb. 0.71

00:37:07.000 Listen, man.

00:37:08.000 You don't think of a scientist with a white fucking coat on just in front of a beaker like all day.

00:37:13.000 Those dudes went into twisted, occultist shit. 0.85

00:37:16.000 They're the ones that brought it in.

00:37:18.000 Maybe some of them.

00:37:18.000 They were into it.

00:37:19.000 Nazis, it was a religion. 0.68

00:37:20.000 It wasn't just like, oh, I got a white coat and I got a beaker all day.

00:37:23.000 All day I got a beaker.

00:37:24.000 Do you understand?

00:37:24.000 There was a lot of people that were trying to get rid of Hitler.

00:37:26.000 There were regular dudes who wanted to fuck. 1.00

00:37:28.000 But there was people that were trying to get rid of Hitler that thought he was crazy.

00:37:30.000 There was a lot of that going on, too.

00:37:32.000 There was failed assassination attempts, failed coup attempts.

00:37:35.000 It wasn't like they were all on board.

00:37:38.000 It's just he had massive amounts of power, and he was a fucking terrifying individual.

00:37:42.000 And he was a dynamic speaker.

00:37:44.000 He could get thousands of people.

00:37:46.000 Who's that?

00:37:46.000 Hitler was a...

00:37:46.000 And people were Have you seen his speeches?

00:37:49.000 They're so theatrical, it's unbelievable.

00:37:51.000 He's a beast.

00:37:52.000 I don't know what the fuck he's saying.

00:37:53.000 You guys like Nazis. 0.79

00:37:55.000 No, no, no.

00:37:56.000 He was so well-spoken.

00:38:02.000 This is so passionate.

00:38:03.000 I don't know what he was saying.

00:38:05.000 Jesus Christ.

00:38:07.000 But when you listen to that guy talk, he's got it.

00:38:09.000 Mesmerizing.

00:38:19.000 I bet he could do Castro. 0.88

00:38:23.000 Hitler wouldn't go over well. 0.87

00:38:25.000 But guys, if you see my stand up, my stand up is pretty amazing.

00:38:30.000 That fucking guy with his limp.

00:38:33.000 How is Joey?

00:38:34.000 I love him because he only calls.

00:38:36.000 He'll never text.

00:38:36.000 If I text him, he calls.

00:38:37.000 He just did a thing for CISO. He just did this stand-up comedy special.

00:38:44.000 For CISO? Yeah, CISO. Where'd he shoot it at?

00:38:47.000 He shot it in Chicago.

00:38:49.000 Oh, nice.

00:38:50.000 Yeah, outside of...

00:38:51.000 The theater?

00:38:52.000 Just outside of Chicago, Rosemont.

00:38:54.000 Where were we at, B? Hey, my special's available on Monday.

00:38:57.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:38:58.000 I'll call you.

00:38:59.000 You can help me with that.

00:39:00.000 Call me.

00:39:01.000 Let's do it.

00:39:01.000 But you don't know what the platform would be?

00:39:04.000 It's gonna be on iTunes.

00:39:05.000 It'll be on Stitcher everything.

00:39:07.000 You can buy it.

00:39:07.000 Monday.

00:39:08.000 No politics no more.

00:39:09.000 How's it Stitcher?

00:39:10.000 I mean iTunes.

00:39:11.000 That's audio.

00:39:12.000 I gotta look at it, guys.

00:39:12.000 Stitcher's for a podcast, right?

00:39:14.000 I'm getting all the info on Monday.

00:39:15.000 He doesn't know.

00:39:16.000 Stitcher people are like, what the fuck, bro?

00:39:18.000 You lied to us.

00:39:19.000 You let me down, man.

00:39:20.000 Hey, what's going on?

00:39:21.000 Brian, you were always number one in my book.

00:39:22.000 No, you're number four.

00:39:23.000 No, the audio will be- Keep slipping, bro.

00:39:25.000 The audio will be available.

00:39:27.000 And I'll tell you what's really good news- That post you made today- I want to punch you in the face.

00:39:30.000 You fucked up pretty bad.

00:39:31.000 You fucked it up.

00:39:32.000 No, it'll be on iTunes and it'll be on Google Play.

00:39:34.000 I don't think we've made one comment about the fight.

00:39:36.000 The next fight's good.

00:39:37.000 Hey, Jake Ellenberger's fighting Masvidal.

00:39:39.000 That's a motherfucking fight.

00:39:41.000 That's a very good fight.

00:39:41.000 It's a very good fight.

00:39:42.000 Yeah, tonight, sir.

00:39:43.000 But the rugged handsomeness of Brett Favre just distracted me for a brief moment.

00:39:47.000 Damn right.

00:39:47.000 It looks better as he gets older.

00:39:49.000 You ever seen his dick pic?

00:39:50.000 He gives less a fuck.

00:39:51.000 You ever seen his dick pic?

00:39:52.000 Yes.

00:39:53.000 Not good.

00:39:53.000 Sad.

00:39:54.000 But it could have been photoshopped and I'm always willing to hold out hope.

00:39:58.000 I wouldn't allow him in the Hall of Fame.

00:39:59.000 If that came out before the Hall of Fame, you ain't in.

00:40:01.000 It might be an inside joke that just no one's telling you about.

00:40:04.000 Never.

00:40:04.000 He's a grower, not a shower.

00:40:07.000 It could be an inside joke.

00:40:08.000 Get Crocs on, son.

00:40:08.000 It might have been part of the inside joke.

00:40:11.000 Yep.

00:40:12.000 He's such a stunt.

00:40:14.000 I'd eat the shit out of that right now.

00:40:15.000 Uh, Brett Vaughn, he didn't even comment on it.

00:40:17.000 He's just, yeah, what can you do?

00:40:18.000 Yeah, that's the way to do it.

00:40:19.000 Is that the best way to do it?

00:40:20.000 Isn't that the best way to do a scandal? 0.57

00:40:21.000 Hell yeah.

00:40:21.000 Uh, probably.

00:40:22.000 Which depends on what the scandal is, right?

00:40:24.000 If you're Wiener, no.

00:40:25.000 Anthony Wiener, go ahead and address that shit.

00:40:27.000 Yeah, you probably should.

00:40:27.000 Yeah.

00:40:28.000 But sometimes it's just like, ah, fuck it.

00:40:29.000 This fucking fight, man.

00:40:30.000 Pettis versus Holloway is going to be lit.

00:40:32.000 Hey, Max Holloway.

00:40:33.000 Is that today?

00:40:34.000 That's next week.

00:40:35.000 Hey, what happened to the cowboy's eye?

00:40:36.000 Is that real?

00:40:37.000 No.

00:40:38.000 Oh, it's not?

00:40:38.000 No.

00:40:39.000 All right.

00:40:40.000 But you're talking about it, right?

00:40:41.000 So it serves its purpose.

00:40:44.000 That's a fun card, man.

00:40:45.000 It's a great card.

00:40:46.000 Holloway, nine in a row, fucking Connor had to be like, all right, I'm not going.

00:40:50.000 They had to strip him off a belt, and then finally he gets a title shot. 0.99

00:40:54.000 God damn it.

00:40:55.000 Give the guy a goddamn...

00:40:56.000 And it's kind of a fake inter...

00:40:58.000 Because they're like, Jose's the champ.

00:41:01.000 This is for an interim title.

00:41:02.000 But he's the champ.

00:41:03.000 Why not just give it to him?

00:41:05.000 Yeah, for an interim title.

00:41:06.000 No, I know, but you already have a champ. 0.88

00:41:08.000 But they're going to fight for their term.

00:41:10.000 Alright, I like belts.

00:41:11.000 Fuck it, let's do it.

00:41:12.000 If that gets Max or Anthony Pettis a belt, let's fucking ride. 0.96

00:41:15.000 I feel the same way.

00:41:17.000 I feel the same way.

00:41:18.000 I like it.

00:41:19.000 I like that fight, man.

00:41:20.000 Everyone gets belts.

00:41:21.000 The only thing I wonder about that fight is I wonder how well Pettis' body adapted to 145. Here's the real question, Joe.

00:41:30.000 Remember, they weren't the main event.

00:41:31.000 Now they are five rounds.

00:41:33.000 Now, we've seen them adapt all right with two to three rounds at 45. Imagine round four and five, the championship rounds.

00:41:39.000 Now, let me ask you this.

00:41:40.000 Harder because he loses weight?

00:41:42.000 Yes.

00:41:42.000 Cardio.

00:41:43.000 Let me ask you this as a guy who...

00:41:44.000 Have you ever fought five?

00:41:46.000 Never fought five, no.

00:41:48.000 Never fought for title two.

00:41:49.000 Thanks for bringing that up.

00:41:50.000 No, that's not what I meant.

00:41:51.000 I know, I'm just kidding.

00:41:52.000 But do you feel that those, like, when you get in shape to go a hard three, how much of a difference is there between the hard three and the hard five?

00:42:01.000 Is it mental?

00:42:03.000 At a certain point in time, how much more training, how much in better shape could you really get?

00:42:08.000 And is it one of those things where it's just harder?

00:42:11.000 You've got to be more educated.

00:42:12.000 It's the pace, yeah.

00:42:13.000 But is it just harder?

00:42:14.000 Or does it require more time to prepare for five rounds?

00:42:18.000 No.

00:42:19.000 So you get in peak shape.

00:42:20.000 No matter what.

00:42:21.000 Peak shape is peak shape.

00:42:22.000 And the difference is between you just having to fight 15 minutes and the potential of 25. Correct.

00:42:26.000 See, didn't you spar 25 minutes all the time?

00:42:29.000 I usually go 7 rounds.

00:42:31.000 But to your point, I think it's the pacing in the early rounds.

00:42:37.000 Take, for instance, Brunson vs.

00:42:39.000 Whitaker.

00:42:40.000 When he came out, I went, oh, he's not fighting to go 5 rounds.

00:42:42.000 He's just trying to Trying to get out of it.

00:42:44.000 Exactly.

00:42:44.000 Trying to win and get out.

00:42:45.000 Because everyone in the world knows at that level, you can't go for a five-round fight.

00:42:50.000 It's impossible.

00:42:51.000 By the way, let me just say, Sarah McMahon's about to fight. 1.00

00:42:54.000 She feels like Glacen Tebow.

00:42:56.000 You put your hand on her shoulder.

00:42:57.000 I mean that in a good way.

00:42:59.000 She's such a mesomorph tank. 1.00

00:43:02.000 She's a tank. 1.00

00:43:02.000 I'm a fan of hers. 1.00

00:43:04.000 The girl's really strong.

00:43:05.000 Powerful wrestler.

00:43:06.000 Silver medalist in the Olympics.

00:43:07.000 She don't like jiu-jitsu, though.

00:43:09.000 I hope that's changed.

00:43:11.000 No, she said it.

00:43:12.000 She said she's not into it.

00:43:13.000 God, she would be so good at it. 0.54

00:43:15.000 And is there any woman that you've ever rolled with that gave you any kind of fits or any problem?

00:43:21.000 Not to be sexist, but be honest.

00:43:23.000 I'm sure if I rolled with Gabby Garcia, she'd fuck me up. 1.00

00:43:26.000 She's big, dude. 0.99

00:43:28.000 Mackenzie might put something heavy on you.

00:43:30.000 Mackenzie.

00:43:30.000 Every girl I roll with, they're too light.

00:43:33.000 They're little.

00:43:33.000 They're like 125 pounds, 135. I'm like, 145?

00:43:38.000 Let me queue up the time here so we'll actually try to watch this.

00:43:42.000 442, 441, 440, 439, all of the first round.

00:43:47.000 It's Sarah McMahon versus Alexis Davis.

00:43:50.000 Do you think that that stoppage when she fought Ronda and got kneed?

00:43:54.000 100% legit.

00:43:55.000 It was legit?

00:43:56.000 Super legit.

00:43:56.000 Ronda cracked her with the right hand, then cracked her with the knee, and then put the mitts to her.

00:44:01.000 She was in trouble.

00:44:02.000 Yes.

00:44:03.000 What if McMahon developed some serious stand-up?

00:44:07.000 She does have good stand-up.

00:44:08.000 She just ran into the freight train that is Ronda Rousey.

00:44:11.000 She's a decent fighter all around. 1.00

00:44:15.000 She does a lot of things good all around.

00:44:18.000 She is muscular as fuck. 1.00

00:44:22.000 She's an Olympian, son.

00:44:23.000 Dude, how much of a bummer is that DC's out against Rumble?

00:44:26.000 That's a bummer.

00:44:27.000 Ain't that a bitch? 1.00

00:44:27.000 Is that his knee or what is it? 1.00

00:44:28.000 Groin.

00:44:29.000 He had surgery, too.

00:44:30.000 Alexis Davis beat Amanda Nunes.

00:44:32.000 Dude, look at this.

00:44:33.000 Way back in the dizzy.

00:44:35.000 She's tough, dude.

00:44:36.000 But Ronda was just too much for her.

00:44:39.000 She beat both of them, right? 0.98

00:44:40.000 Who else?

00:44:42.000 Ronda beat both of these girls, right? 1.00

00:44:43.000 Yes.

00:44:44.000 Yes.

00:44:44.000 Yeah, Ronda smushed both of them.

00:44:46.000 She gave both of them the smush arena. 0.99

00:44:48.000 Look at that.

00:44:49.000 She smushed Sarah McMahon with a knee. 1.00

00:44:51.000 Oh, that's a good move with that elbow right there. 0.99

00:44:54.000 Shit.

00:44:54.000 That's good shit.

00:44:55.000 People don't do that enough.

00:44:56.000 Look at that.

00:44:57.000 Why not?

00:44:57.000 Just throw those short elbows.

00:44:58.000 Ooh, wow.

00:44:59.000 That hurts.

00:45:00.000 There's some serious shit going on right there.

00:45:01.000 Yeah, she does not like that.

00:45:02.000 And you gotta react to it, too, when they throw elbows like that.

00:45:05.000 Pele Landy was the first dude.

00:45:06.000 Anytime Pele Landy back in the day in the late Landys in Brazil.

00:45:10.000 Oh, oh.

00:45:11.000 He would do this all day on dudes.

00:45:13.000 These are hard.

00:45:14.000 She's trapped now.

00:45:15.000 Instead of her being in a good position, she's trapped getting elbowed. 0.99

00:45:19.000 Well, she's in protection mode.

00:45:20.000 Eddie, do you remember Jason Day?

00:45:22.000 He was like one of the first guys to figure out how to do that from the rubber guard.

00:45:25.000 Eddie, what do you do in this situation?

00:45:26.000 You go right there.

00:45:27.000 Start throwing elbows right now with the left elbow.

00:45:30.000 What does Sarah McMahon do here? 1.00

00:45:32.000 She needs to posture up or not punch. 1.00

00:45:36.000 Because if Alexis Davis really knew how to play some high-level rubber guard, She would have never let Sarah McMahon have her hand on the mat and then have the hand on the chest, have the hand on the mat. 1.00

00:45:47.000 Once the hand's on the mat, boom, it stays there.

00:45:49.000 We're not going back to the chest.

00:45:50.000 Check this out, though.

00:45:51.000 She's about to triangle this bitch. 1.00

00:45:52.000 Ah, fuck.

00:45:53.000 I didn't mean to say bitch.

00:45:53.000 She has a lot of potential.

00:45:55.000 I didn't mean to say bitch.

00:45:56.000 I started laughing at that.

00:45:58.000 Hey, you couldn't help it.

00:45:59.000 What about you guys who are free from Fox?

00:46:03.000 You can just let those bitches loose. 1.00

00:46:05.000 You got them all corralled up in your brain.

00:46:08.000 Let them bitches loose. 1.00

00:46:10.000 Get them all corralled.

00:46:11.000 See, on this side, on her right side, see where Sarah McMahon's right arm is? 0.96

00:46:16.000 That should never be there.

00:46:17.000 When your right arm is pinned to the ground like that, and you have someone with a strong rubber guard, especially someone who's already taken mission control with that left leg up, the first thing to do is to trap that arm.

00:46:26.000 So once that arm is down on the ground like that, you never want to give it back.

00:46:30.000 And she keeps giving it back over and over and over again.

00:46:32.000 Here's the thing, though.

00:46:33.000 Sarah's winning.

00:46:33.000 Sarah's winning this round, gentlemen.

00:46:35.000 Yeah, she is.

00:46:36.000 But what I'm saying is there's a lot of opportunities for Alexis Davis off her back. 0.67

00:46:39.000 No, I'm with you.

00:46:39.000 She's just not doing anything.

00:46:41.000 Every time Sarah McMahon puts her hand onto the ground like that, she's extremely vulnerable.

00:46:45.000 You keep it there.

00:46:46.000 Boom.

00:46:46.000 And then you work off that.

00:46:48.000 Everything comes off that.

00:46:49.000 She's very vulnerable.

00:46:50.000 A person with a very good rubber guard, as soon as you put your arm down on the mat, they're going to immediately overhook that arm, try to trap it in place, and then try to go to mission control.

00:46:59.000 She achieved mission control.

00:47:01.000 She just didn't exactly know what to do once she got there.

00:47:03.000 So she didn't try to progress any further.

00:47:05.000 And then there was the punches.

00:47:07.000 But first of all, if you just want to elbow someone, if you watch the Alan Belcher-Jason Day fight, Jason Day was, you know, he beat Alan Belcher...

00:47:17.000 Really, early on, when Belcher's a fantastic fighter, and since then...

00:47:22.000 Belcher beat Paul Harries.

00:47:24.000 Beat Paul Harries at his own game.

00:47:26.000 At his prime.

00:47:26.000 At his own game.

00:47:27.000 Went leg-locked with him and dominated the position and beat the shit out of him.

00:47:30.000 I love Alan Belcher.

00:47:32.000 So it's not a diss on Alan Belcher.

00:47:33.000 I love that dude.

00:47:34.000 But Jason Day showed how effective that position could be in holding that spot and blasting elbows in place.

00:47:40.000 So there's a lot of people that use the first couple of steps of the position, but they don't know high-level shit from then out.

00:47:48.000 It's a long process.

00:47:49.000 It's like trying to shoot doubles, but you don't really practice wrestling.

00:47:52.000 She's in a good position.

00:47:53.000 You know what I mean?

00:47:53.000 It's like, okay, I see you're trying to shoot a double.

00:47:56.000 She's getting pretty nasty. 0.67

00:47:57.000 Oh, look at that!

00:47:58.000 She was in a good position.

00:47:59.000 Man, she's so close to finishing this fight. 1.00

00:48:01.000 She's so close.

00:48:03.000 She shouldn't hit her.

00:48:04.000 She should cinch it up because hitting her is going to bash her out. 1.00

00:48:08.000 She needs to scoot that left leg over. 1.00

00:48:13.000 She's got to scoot that left leg over. 1.00

00:48:15.000 Don't tap.

00:48:16.000 You've got ten seconds.

00:48:17.000 The left leg's got to be closer to us.

00:48:19.000 That's a good shot right there.

00:48:23.000 Oh man, that was phenomenal.

00:48:25.000 Alexis Davis got A lot of potential off her back. 1.00

00:48:28.000 She could be a fucking assassin. 1.00

00:48:30.000 She should have finished that? 0.77

00:48:32.000 That was nasty.

00:48:33.000 That was nasty.

00:48:34.000 It all depends what level you are with it.

00:48:37.000 My high level rubber guard players, they wouldn't last like 30 seconds there.

00:48:43.000 That would have all just been a wrap around it.

00:48:45.000 You're saying pure jiu-jitsu guys?

00:48:46.000 Pure jiu-jitsu.

00:48:47.000 Yes, pure jiu-jitsu guys.

00:48:48.000 When punches come into play, obviously there's a big difference.

00:48:51.000 It doesn't even matter.

00:48:52.000 The punches will make it easier.

00:48:54.000 Punches make it easier.

00:48:55.000 The way you stop rubber guard, don't punch.

00:48:58.000 Unless Crow Cop elbows you in the fucking mug. 0.86

00:49:01.000 Correct.

00:49:02.000 Then you're not in rubber guard.

00:49:05.000 You can't get elbowed in rubber guard, so if you get elbowed, you're not in rubber guard.

00:49:10.000 It's really tough to get a guy in rubber guard if he's aware of rubber guard, yes?

00:49:14.000 Not really.

00:49:16.000 Not really.

00:49:17.000 I mean, there's counters, but then you just keep playing the game.

00:49:20.000 It's like saying, if you try to throw that head kick, dudes will get out of the way, right?

00:49:25.000 Yeah, they'll get out of the way, but you still fucking throw it.

00:49:27.000 There's ways to set it up.

00:49:28.000 Yeah, you set it up.

00:49:30.000 It's exactly the same thing.

00:49:31.000 That's exactly the same way to say it.

00:49:32.000 Dude, trust me.

00:49:33.000 I got guys, all they play is rubber guard.

00:49:35.000 Oh, I bet, man.

00:49:36.000 High-level guys come through all the time, and I see it.

00:49:38.000 I witness it.

00:49:39.000 I'm looking at them like...

00:49:41.000 That's all I play.

00:49:43.000 No, you go down that rabbit hole, you're in trouble.

00:49:46.000 Imagine how crazy I would be pushing some shit that I don't even play.

00:49:51.000 Damn, good leg kick. 0.99

00:49:52.000 How crazy would I be?

00:49:54.000 It just takes a lot of time.

00:49:56.000 And did you invent this?

00:49:58.000 Girls, this is a hell of a scrap!

00:50:00.000 Oh! 0.60

00:50:01.000 Beautiful takedown.

00:50:03.000 Circa McMahon's base is ridiculous.

00:50:05.000 100%.

00:50:05.000 He invented it, he named it, the whole deal.

00:50:07.000 That's a big deal.

00:50:08.000 That's innovative.

00:50:08.000 There were some guys that had did some interesting guards in the past, and Nino Shambri had a lot of really cool stuff, but what Eddie did was he put together a system, especially a system that's really effective no-gi.

00:50:23.000 And named it.

00:50:24.000 Yeah.

00:50:25.000 Well, he's...

00:50:26.000 And then he came up with the Eddie Bravo Invitational, which I've heard you guys say is way more exciting to watch.

00:50:30.000 Did you watch it?

00:50:31.000 No, but...

00:50:32.000 The greatest CBI ever.

00:50:34.000 Aren't we doing one Saturday, Eddie, in Austin?

00:50:36.000 That's an Onnit Invitational this Saturday.

00:50:39.000 Eddie, look at this.

00:50:39.000 Look at this.

00:50:41.000 Total potential electric chair position.

00:50:43.000 She was back there.

00:50:45.000 She was in a position where she could have totally done it.

00:50:47.000 Sarah gets... 1.00

00:50:49.000 Sarah's base is ridiculous, man.

00:50:51.000 Being an Olympic-level wrestler, she'd be tough to deal with. 0.99

00:50:54.000 What Sarah McMahon needs to do is free her right knee and then go to three-quarter mount. 1.00

00:50:58.000 That's all she's got to do.

00:50:59.000 That's the Damien Maia route.

00:51:02.000 Damien Maia is something else.

00:51:03.000 She's got really good control here.

00:51:05.000 Have you ever rolled with Damien?

00:51:06.000 Nope.

00:51:07.000 He'd probably fuck me up.

00:51:09.000 He's a beast.

00:51:09.000 Well, he's bigger than you.

00:51:10.000 Well, he's just...

00:51:11.000 He's so, like...

00:51:13.000 He's a master.

00:51:13.000 You know what I love about what he does?

00:51:15.000 It's so old school.

00:51:16.000 Yeah, it doesn't look like he's doing much, but he's on top of you.

00:51:19.000 He's back to his roots, dude.

00:51:21.000 He's cutting right through all your bullshit.

00:51:23.000 Yeah, there's no...

00:51:25.000 It's no jibber-chabber, it's just cutting through the bullshit.

00:51:28.000 He's just cutting right through all your bullshit and putting the smoosh down on you.

00:51:30.000 When you watch really high-level wrestlers, it's the same thing.

00:51:34.000 They're not doing anything fancy.

00:51:35.000 They're doing arm drags, single legs, but they're so flawless with it.

00:51:38.000 Well, you know, when he did it to Carlos Condit, I was shaking my head like, God damn.

00:51:57.000 You don't really need she could take her time out here She could just wear her out right here and eventually pull that right knee out. 1.00

00:52:02.000 Yeah, just go to three-quarters You don't really even need a mount.

00:52:05.000 She needs to use her left foot to free that leg. 1.00

00:52:07.000 She knows what's up.

00:52:09.000 This is how you set it up.

00:52:11.000 Inch by inch.

00:52:12.000 That's beautiful.

00:52:13.000 That's the best defense right there.

00:52:16.000 Turn away! 0.99

00:52:17.000 Turn away! 0.99

00:52:18.000 If she would have just held on to that leg, it's over now.

00:52:21.000 She's going out.

00:52:21.000 She said, oh, you do jiu-jitsu, bitch.

00:52:23.000 She would have just held on to her leg. 0.99

00:52:28.000 She would have been fine.

00:52:29.000 Powerful Sarah McMahon! 0.99

00:52:30.000 No, she turned into the choke. 1.00

00:52:32.000 You go away from that choke.

00:52:33.000 I will say this.

00:52:33.000 Sarah McMahon is the master of a side choke.

00:52:36.000 It wasn't about just choking.

00:52:38.000 It was the 17 steps before that, how she set it all up.

00:52:42.000 For sure.

00:52:42.000 Man, she was on that shit.

00:52:43.000 Not to mention, she's a fucking horse. 1.00

00:52:45.000 That helps, too.

00:52:46.000 She gets it.

00:52:47.000 She got the chopping block.

00:52:50.000 Hey dude, you can't go hoarse!

00:52:54.000 You can't!

00:52:56.000 Because Shane Carwin, he barely knew jiu-jitsu.

00:52:59.000 If he got that on you and he was a fucking Cridesdale, he'd crush your fucking neck.

00:53:04.000 If you guys want to see grappling and what it looks like, literally it's fine.

00:53:09.000 Kale Sanderson's gold medal match I think against this Korean guy watch what he looks like he's like going for a walk in the park like he's doing ankle pics and weird shit where it looks like he's literally kind of like you know kind of moving at half speed. 1.00

00:53:23.000 You know how good Yoel Romero is?

00:53:25.000 Yes.

00:53:25.000 Yoel Romero beat Kale Sanderson twice.

00:53:29.000 Twice.

00:53:29.000 That's how scary a freak athlete you are.

00:53:32.000 I like that right there.

00:53:33.000 I like Bisbee's chances in that fight.

00:53:35.000 Look at that shit.

00:53:37.000 Beautiful.

00:53:37.000 Super constrictor.

00:53:39.000 She would've just held that arm.

00:53:41.000 She slipped.

00:53:42.000 She turns into it like a fucking move. 1.00

00:53:44.000 All she had to do was hold onto the leg and it was done.

00:53:46.000 Hold on, Eddie.

00:53:47.000 Let me know if I'm wrong here.

00:53:49.000 Hold on the leg and turn away from the choking pressure.

00:53:52.000 It doesn't matter.

00:53:52.000 At that point, you're just like that until they let go of the grip.

00:53:54.000 As soon as they let go of the grip, you're gone.

00:53:56.000 So you hold on to her leg?

00:53:57.000 No, she held on to her own leg.

00:54:00.000 Her own leg.

00:54:01.000 Because the arm that's in the choke, you don't want it like this.

00:54:04.000 You want it like this.

00:54:05.000 If it's like this from the elbow here, you're good.

00:54:08.000 If you're like this, you're choked.

00:54:10.000 So you want it here.

00:54:11.000 So what this does is this keeps it here.

00:54:13.000 Holding your own leg, you're like this.

00:54:14.000 If someone does that, do you go to the impaler if they try that defense?

00:54:19.000 Do you try to go knee to chest?

00:54:20.000 I always do arm triangles from the mount.

00:54:24.000 I never let them have the opportunity to grab their leg.

00:54:26.000 You just take it right from the mount.

00:54:27.000 I never even leave them out.

00:54:28.000 Because if I leave them out, they're going to do that.

00:54:30.000 If you know that defense, it stops all arm triangles.

00:54:35.000 Yeah, but from that impaler, I remember trying that defense on you.

00:54:39.000 That's a mount.

00:54:40.000 That's kind of a mount.

00:54:40.000 Sort of.

00:54:41.000 That knee is going to be in the way of this, right?

00:54:44.000 But you can push that motherfucker out.

00:54:46.000 So really, the best thing to do is just do a mount where it's kind of like knee on the belly, but your knee is on the ground, so it's like a deep knee on the belly.

00:54:55.000 That's the best spot right there.

00:54:56.000 There's no defense.

00:54:57.000 Wait a minute.

00:54:58.000 Which knee is on the ground?

00:54:59.000 Say if you're on left.

00:55:00.000 It's like knee on the belly.

00:55:01.000 Same side that she just got, right?

00:55:03.000 So it'd be your left knee on her belly. 0.98

00:55:04.000 But instead of having the knee actually on the belly, it's actually all the way through.

00:55:08.000 It's like your shin across the stomach.

00:55:10.000 Knee really heavy on the mat.

00:55:12.000 Because if you had your knee on your belly and they knew the defense, they would fucking pop that motherfucker up and grab their leg. 0.99

00:55:18.000 And now they're good.

00:55:19.000 I see.

00:55:20.000 So you have the left knee on the right side of their body and the shin across the top.

00:55:24.000 So there's no way they could grab their leg.

00:55:26.000 So there's more of a mount.

00:55:27.000 It's more of a mount.

00:55:27.000 You might as well mount, but that is actually better than a mount.

00:55:30.000 Well, I know when you would do it, a lot of times you would do it, we would call it the impaler.

00:55:35.000 Do you still do that?

00:55:36.000 No.

00:55:36.000 I don't even need it.

00:55:37.000 That's terrifying, that impaler.

00:55:39.000 Thank God you stopped doing it.

00:55:41.000 It was horrific.

00:55:42.000 It's always there.

00:55:43.000 It's a knee right to the sternum.

00:55:46.000 It's just massive pressure.

00:55:47.000 As you put the side choke in.

00:55:48.000 So you put the side choke in, and then the knee is on the sternum. 0.70

00:55:51.000 Jesus Christ, that sounds terrible.

00:55:53.000 Right into your neck.

00:55:54.000 It's actually sternum, neck.

00:55:55.000 It's like both, both.

00:55:56.000 I mean, it doesn't work on everybody, but that's the best way to stop that defense where you're grabbing the leg.

00:56:01.000 For me, it was always the impaler.

00:56:03.000 The impaler always stopped that because you wanted so bad to get that knee off your chest.

00:56:07.000 You were willing to let your legs go, just try to push that knee aside, and then you just fall right into the chest.

00:56:13.000 I'd only go to the impaler when...

00:56:16.000 The regular shit ain't working and he's got like a little angle.

00:56:19.000 He's got a little spot.

00:56:20.000 It's not lined up perfect.

00:56:22.000 So now we got to go fuck it.

00:56:23.000 Let's just hold this and drive a knee right in his neck. 1.00

00:56:27.000 And that's usually what makes him tap.

00:56:29.000 Dude, you did the impaler on me one time and I really thought my chest was going to crack.

00:56:33.000 I thought my sternum was going to crack.

00:56:35.000 Jesus.

00:56:36.000 It's a terrible feeling because like someone's cranking down on your neck.

00:56:40.000 You got head and arm trapped in there, right?

00:56:41.000 You got that arm choke in there. 0.57

00:56:42.000 And then they got their knee on your chest. 0.99

00:56:48.000 Eddie, how long did you wrestle for?

00:56:50.000 You were a wrestler.

00:56:50.000 Two years.

00:56:51.000 Just two years?

00:56:52.000 But you were good, huh?

00:56:52.000 I sucked.

00:56:53.000 Really?

00:56:53.000 Terrible.

00:56:54.000 I got one takedown in two years.

00:56:56.000 When did you realize, when you started rolling in jiu-jitsu, when did you, one, realize this was it?

00:57:02.000 Like you want to do it?

00:57:03.000 That's true.

00:57:03.000 But I did learn the twister there, which is actually the wrestler's guillotine.

00:57:08.000 Oh, you weren't laughing about my shitty wrestling?

00:57:10.000 No, I was.

00:57:11.000 One takedown in two years is what I was laughing at.

00:57:14.000 But I didn't get shit out of takedowns or anything.

00:57:17.000 I was actually pretty good at arm drags, but you know how they say it's like a bike?

00:57:21.000 I think after like 30 years, it's not like a bike no more.

00:57:24.000 You gotta start all over.

00:57:25.000 Your body completely forgot it, and you are a fucking white belt, because I suck at arm drags. 1.00

00:57:29.000 In high school, that was my shit.

00:57:31.000 But what was also my shit was, I was a leg rider, because I was weak.

00:57:34.000 While everybody was supposed to be lifting weights, I was on the side of the fucking building, just like...

00:57:42.000 So I had to be a leg rider.

00:57:44.000 Every wrestling team had three leg riders.

00:57:46.000 In all my wrestling, my whole life, I never once threw legs in.

00:57:51.000 I don't know why.

00:57:51.000 Some guys were so good at it.

00:57:52.000 No, no, most people don't.

00:57:54.000 There's only like three per class.

00:57:56.000 And I was one of those guys.

00:57:57.000 It was the weak guys.

00:57:58.000 You guys should start a podcast.

00:58:00.000 Nico...

00:58:00.000 It's Wrestling Talk, buddy.

00:58:03.000 Hey, bud.

00:58:03.000 It's Wrestling Talk.

00:58:04.000 Nicko Chia was the guy who showed me the Twister.

00:58:07.000 I forget his first name.

00:58:10.000 Something Nicko Chia.

00:58:12.000 Fuck, I forget his first name.

00:58:14.000 He's the one who showed me the Twister.

00:58:16.000 Eddie, I got a question for you.

00:58:17.000 What do you think's next for your boy, Tony Ferguson?

00:58:19.000 Alex.

00:58:19.000 Alex Nicko Chia.

00:58:21.000 That guy is the guy who...

00:58:22.000 Shout out to Alex.

00:58:24.000 Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.

00:58:25.000 Shout out to Alex.

00:58:26.000 Alex Nicoccia is the guy who showed it to me.

00:58:29.000 Alex Nicoccia should be a fucking t-shirt.

00:58:30.000 Hopefully he's still alive, right?

00:58:32.000 He is still alive.

00:58:33.000 You're positive?

00:58:34.000 Juliana Pena.

00:58:34.000 Dude, I'm not, I'm 46. I'm not 80. I'm just saying!

00:58:38.000 The guy was in 11th grade and I was in 9th.

00:58:41.000 Oh, gotcha.

00:58:42.000 I thought he was the coach.

00:58:43.000 And Jesse Barrios.

00:58:44.000 He was the only other leg rider.

00:58:45.000 Shout out to Jesse, too.

00:58:47.000 I learned the twister in high school.

00:58:48.000 And then when I went to jiu-jitsu, I was like, shit, I already got one move.

00:58:53.000 So my takedowns suck, but I got one move.

00:58:56.000 I couldn't fucking do it on jiu-jitsu players because in wrestling, you could do it because you give up backs.

00:59:03.000 You know, when you give up a back, you stick a leg hook in, it's really easy, but in jiu-jitsu, giving the back is the ultimate sin.

00:59:09.000 So I was like, damn it, no one's even giving me their fucking back.

00:59:12.000 How am I gonna do this?

00:59:14.000 The only move I know in grappling.

00:59:16.000 And then so slowly, I had to figure out how to get to the wrestler's guillotine, which later became the twister because Higgin and John Jacques named it that shit.

00:59:25.000 I didn't.

00:59:27.000 Right, right.

00:59:29.000 Jean-Jacques was your original teacher, right?

00:59:31.000 Yes.

00:59:32.000 What a great guy.

00:59:33.000 Is this a promotion for these two fighting?

00:59:35.000 What's going on right now?

00:59:36.000 I can't hear shit.

00:59:37.000 It seems like it's Aldo gets the title now because he won the interim title with Frankie and now they're showing Pettis highlights the Showtime kick.

00:59:48.000 Damn.

00:59:48.000 It's a little weird he's fighting for a title, yeah?

00:59:50.000 Because he's lost two of his last three?

00:59:53.000 What happened in his last fight?

00:59:54.000 He won.

00:59:55.000 He won.

00:59:55.000 He beat.

00:59:56.000 Who did he beat?

00:59:57.000 Oliveira, right?

00:59:58.000 That's right.

00:59:59.000 He submitted him.

01:00:00.000 Yep.

01:00:01.000 And before that, he lost.

01:00:02.000 Look, he's still Anthony motherfucking Pettis, dude.

01:00:05.000 He was still the UFC lightweight champion.

01:00:07.000 It's a brutal game.

01:00:08.000 You're going to lose some, you're going to win some.

01:00:09.000 Doesn't mean like, oh, it's over for him.

01:00:11.000 Just keep fighting.

01:00:12.000 I'm not saying it's over.

01:00:13.000 No one's saying it's over.

01:00:14.000 I'm saying it's a little strange that he's getting a title shot.

01:00:17.000 That's all I'm saying.

01:00:18.000 My question.

01:00:19.000 At 45 now.

01:00:20.000 At 45?

01:00:20.000 45 is fucking stupid.

01:00:22.000 Anthony Pettis was the 55 champ.

01:00:25.000 He was the champ.

01:00:26.000 Excuse me, sir, two years ago.

01:00:27.000 Yeah, so 45 is like, yeah, he's going to be right there in the mix.

01:00:30.000 Come on, man.

01:00:31.000 That's Anthony fucking Pettis at 45?

01:00:33.000 That's a nightmare.

01:00:34.000 Okay, well, Max Holloway won nine in a row, and he's just getting a title shot.

01:00:38.000 It is true.

01:00:38.000 Shit's not fair in the UFC. You know that.

01:00:41.000 That's a good point.

01:00:42.000 I'm just saying.

01:00:43.000 I love Anthony Pesce.

01:00:45.000 He's one of my favorite people in the UFC. I'm scared of what's going on.

01:00:47.000 I'm scared of the direction the UFC's going for some reason.

01:00:51.000 You should be.

01:00:52.000 What are you scared of?

01:00:53.000 It used to be that it was Dana and Lorenzo and Frank was right there.

01:00:58.000 You had faces.

01:01:00.000 You could actually get to them and make a change.

01:01:04.000 It was like doing the right thing for the sport.

01:01:07.000 It was all about...

01:01:08.000 We're all here.

01:01:09.000 We're working together.

01:01:10.000 We're doing the right thing for the sport.

01:01:12.000 The right rules for the sport.

01:01:13.000 We're trying to make it right.

01:01:15.000 And now...

01:01:16.000 Dude, those guys don't even fucking own the UFC no more.

01:01:20.000 What's a business, Eddie?

01:01:20.000 Like, who owns it?

01:01:21.000 What's going on?

01:01:22.000 Dude, that shit, when you start looking at it.

01:01:23.000 The Illuminati owns it.

01:01:25.000 Faceless, faceless people.

01:01:26.000 Basically.

01:01:27.000 Tower 7. Well, not faceless.

01:01:29.000 There's Ari Emanuel, Dana White, Conan O'Brien.

01:01:33.000 There's a few celebrities who own it now.

01:01:35.000 Well, Ari Emanuel in particular.

01:01:36.000 Correct.

01:01:36.000 I met Ari.

01:01:37.000 I talked to Ari.

01:01:37.000 He's a very nice guy.

01:01:38.000 I'm sure he is.

01:01:39.000 Very smart guy.

01:01:40.000 He listens.

01:01:41.000 Wicked smart.

01:01:41.000 He really wants to do the best thing they can for the sport.

01:01:45.000 Who knows what kind of changes they'll make once they settle in.

01:01:49.000 But these guys are masters of entertainment business.

01:01:52.000 They know how to handle things.

01:01:53.000 They're big fans of the sport.

01:01:55.000 But also, on the fighter side, that Mixed Martial Arts Athletes Association is the first time where it's a serious issue for them to address.

01:02:04.000 Let me ask you this.

01:02:05.000 How many different unions are there? 0.88

01:02:08.000 I heard there's more than one.

01:02:09.000 I'm not sure, but I'll tell you this, Joe.

01:02:11.000 It's Mixed Martial Arts Athletes Association.

01:02:15.000 Which I'm part of.

01:02:16.000 Tim Kennedy, so there's four board members, right, and they just announced it.

01:02:21.000 They have over 200 fighters right now on board with it.

01:02:26.000 So it's the first, like, legit movement of it.

01:02:28.000 Now, what does that entail, like, when you're on board?

01:02:31.000 So that means, like, if you go to fight for, you know, you have a UFC fight coming up.

01:02:37.000 Like, how does that, or a Bellator, right?

01:02:39.000 Because it's for everything, right?

01:02:40.000 It's for everything.

01:02:41.000 It's for any organization.

01:02:43.000 Correct, but it's mainly made up, especially right now, of major UFC players.

01:02:47.000 Here's a good question.

01:02:48.000 Does that hold true for Ryzen and stuff like that?

01:02:50.000 What about if you fight overseas?

01:02:53.000 I'm not sure.

01:02:55.000 I know their focus is UFC because it's the top dog.

01:02:58.000 So if you start at the top, it's going to trickle down.

01:03:00.000 So the idea is that they're going to have a set...

01:03:05.000 A set amount of money we're going to make per fight.

01:03:07.000 Correct.

01:03:08.000 And they're modeling after the baseball union, which is like the best in the world as far as compensation and equal rights.

01:03:16.000 So this is good stuff?

01:03:17.000 This is good stuff.

01:03:18.000 Great stuff.

01:03:19.000 Oh, shit, okay.

01:03:20.000 Think about the guys on board.

01:03:21.000 Is there any potential?

01:03:23.000 Yeah, well, a bunch of UFC fighters, which is interesting.

01:03:25.000 Tim Kennedy, Donald Cerrone, which is a big one, GSP, TJ Dillashaw.

01:03:31.000 What's really weird is what Tim Kennedy said about Bjorn.

01:03:33.000 He was like a necessary evil.

01:03:37.000 He's basically like, who's your boy from Balco?

01:03:40.000 Not your boy, but you've had him on the show.

01:03:41.000 Victor Conte from Balco?

01:03:42.000 So you know how Victor Conte was on the dark side?

01:03:44.000 And then he came out and was like, I know how this shit works.

01:03:48.000 Now I'm for the good guys.

01:03:49.000 I'm going to tell you what they're trying to do.

01:03:50.000 That's what Bjorn's doing.

01:03:51.000 Interesting.

01:03:52.000 He's like, when they say this, this is what he means by this.

01:03:54.000 Wow.

01:03:55.000 Well, you know, who the fuck knows, man?

01:03:56.000 Because I was suspect when I saw Bjorn.

01:03:58.000 I was like, I can't be, you know, I've heard stories about him, so I'm like, I don't want to be part eight.

01:04:01.000 And then when I talked to Tim Kennedy, that motherfucker talked me into running through a wall.

01:04:05.000 I got the phone on the camera.

01:04:06.000 All right, buddy.

01:04:08.000 Who's taking Mike Goldberg's spot?

01:04:14.000 Mike Goldberg's not part of the MMA Association.

01:04:17.000 There's rumors he was, he's not.

01:04:18.000 That'd be kind of conflict of interest.

01:04:20.000 But the thing is...

01:04:21.000 You're thinking about Bill Goldberg?

01:04:22.000 Yeah.

01:04:23.000 The dude from the WWE, yes.

01:04:26.000 No Whoopi Goldberg.

01:04:27.000 Like, how high are you?

01:04:28.000 Yeah.

01:04:30.000 Goldberg made a comeback, man.

01:04:32.000 Yeah, he did.

01:04:33.000 He played in the NFL, which I didn't know.

01:04:34.000 Isn't that a show called The Goldbergs?

01:04:36.000 He's a giant dude.

01:04:38.000 You're on it?

01:04:39.000 You're on The Goldbergs?

01:04:39.000 Yes, I am.

01:04:40.000 That's the one where you're like a high school...

01:04:42.000 I'm the coach.

01:04:43.000 You're a coach.

01:04:43.000 I'm not only am I the coach, but they're doing a spin-off on ABC of the characters.

01:04:47.000 Holy shit!

01:04:48.000 That's amazing!

01:04:49.000 It's cool.

01:04:50.000 Yeah, that's awesome, dude.

01:04:51.000 Dude, it's about time, dude.

01:04:52.000 You're a funny motherfucker.

01:04:53.000 Thank you, brother.

01:04:53.000 You may be lost in politics and shit, but dude, I'll never forget that New Year's fucking Eve, dude.

01:04:59.000 You laughed, right?

01:05:00.000 Dude, you had me fucking...

01:05:03.000 Dude, you crushed my soul when you were doing that.

01:05:05.000 I heard you laughing from the wings.

01:05:07.000 By the way, if you like laughing, this weekend, Fort Lauderdale Improv.

01:05:11.000 That's all I'm going to say.

01:05:12.000 Come see me.

01:05:12.000 Oh, that place is the shit.

01:05:13.000 Dude, my favorite place to perform.

01:05:15.000 It's my favorite place to perform.

01:05:17.000 How often do you go there?

01:05:17.000 You go there a lot.

01:05:18.000 I don't go there nearly enough.

01:05:19.000 I go there once a year.

01:05:20.000 That's it?

01:05:21.000 Yeah, and I love it so much.

01:05:22.000 We're going to bring the fighter and kid there.

01:05:23.000 We have to.

01:05:24.000 It's a fun spot.

01:05:25.000 Dude, I'm telling you.

01:05:26.000 People in Florida are fucking savage.

01:05:28.000 Dude, I love Palm Beach.

01:05:29.000 My greatest shows are at the Fort Lauderdale Improv.

01:05:32.000 Palm Beach, Florida.

01:05:34.000 Florida people are savage.

01:05:35.000 Eddie, I could hear you laughing.

01:05:37.000 It was so great.

01:05:37.000 We did the Chicago Theater.

01:05:39.000 3,500 people.

01:05:40.000 And I'm listening to Eddie cackle in the wings.

01:05:43.000 It was beautiful.

01:05:44.000 This will be a fun fight.

01:05:45.000 Are you guys doing some kind of New Year's show at the Orpheum?

01:05:48.000 That's fucking insane.

01:05:50.000 Yeah.

01:05:51.000 Oh, you know what I did?

01:05:52.000 Tony Hinchcliffe is there, right?

01:05:54.000 Tony and Joey Diaz.

01:05:55.000 Tony just started his podcast.

01:05:56.000 I was his first guest yesterday at the comic store.

01:05:59.000 It's called The Pony Hour.

01:06:00.000 I named it for him.

01:06:01.000 That's perfect.

01:06:02.000 He was like, I don't have a name.

01:06:03.000 I said, sir, it's The Pony Hour.

01:06:04.000 How did the Orpheum...

01:06:06.000 Come on.

01:06:06.000 That guy's got some nipples.

01:06:07.000 You ever play there before?

01:06:09.000 He's got some nipples.

01:06:11.000 I'll suck those. 0.97

01:06:13.000 Bill Burr did New Year's there last year.

01:06:15.000 Sorry, man.

01:06:16.000 And I was just looking for a place to do New Year's, and when the agents look for theaters that are available, that's the one they came to me with.

01:06:22.000 That's a good one, man.

01:06:23.000 Oh, I know the place from EBI. I love that place.

01:06:26.000 That's our home, man.

01:06:26.000 I was excited.

01:06:27.000 That's our goddamn home, dude.

01:06:28.000 I met the owner.

01:06:29.000 I met your boy.

01:06:30.000 He's great.

01:06:30.000 Steve Needleman is the baddest motherfucker on the planet.

01:06:31.000 How many does it seat?

01:06:32.000 Shout out to Steve.

01:06:33.000 Where is this?

01:06:34.000 Where is the...

01:06:35.000 It's the Orpheum in downtown LA. How many does it seat, Joe?

01:06:43.000 800?

01:06:44.000 I would say 1,900.

01:06:45.000 Oh damn, that many?

01:06:46.000 Big shout out.

01:06:47.000 Dude, he did 3,500.

01:06:49.000 Well, no, no, no.

01:06:50.000 I know.

01:06:51.000 Excuse me, sir.

01:06:52.000 No, I'm just saying the Orpheum, when I was there for Eddie, I didn't know it sat that many people.

01:06:56.000 Pretty sure.

01:06:56.000 Maybe because we were down on the front.

01:06:58.000 How many?

01:06:58.000 3,500?

01:06:59.000 I think it's, no, no, no, 19. I think it's 18 or 19. Something like that.

01:07:03.000 I thought maybe it was 1,000.

01:07:04.000 Oh wow, bigger than I thought.

01:07:06.000 Something like that.

01:07:07.000 It's a beautiful theater, man.

01:07:09.000 That's one of those places where you look at it and you go, wow.

01:07:11.000 When Steve first asked me to do EBIs there, because we were doing them at the Florentine Gardens initially in Hollywood, I looked at the website and I'm like, oh man, this guy doesn't, he obviously doesn't know what jiu-jitsu is.

01:07:23.000 Like, this is too classy for jiu-jitsu.

01:07:26.000 Like, we're dirty motherfuckers.

01:07:27.000 So I just turned it down.

01:07:29.000 And then he, again, he said, just come down and check it out.

01:07:32.000 And I'm like, okay.

01:07:33.000 I went down and checked it out.

01:07:34.000 I'm like, dude, this is like, you do like the Oscars and shit here.

01:07:38.000 You know, why would you want jujitsu?

01:07:40.000 But he's so into jujitsu.

01:07:42.000 The guy that owns Orpheum, he's, dude, man, he's doing privates with Compella.

01:07:46.000 That's awesome.

01:07:47.000 And he's so, he competes.

01:07:48.000 He's 65 and he's competing.

01:07:50.000 He's a strong motherfucker.

01:07:51.000 He's such an awesome guy.

01:07:53.000 And he, dude, when we show up, he's got his EBI shirt on, he's got his 10th Planet shirt on.

01:07:59.000 The guy who owns that whole fucking thing loves EBI. He seemed like it when I talked to him.

01:08:05.000 He's a super fan.

01:08:06.000 So when they brought to me the options of places to go, that was one of the first ones.

01:08:09.000 I was like, yeah, I love that place.

01:08:10.000 Did you want to be in LA, Joe?

01:08:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:13.000 It's 1987. Goddamn.

01:08:15.000 That's way bigger.

01:08:16.000 When is that New Year's Eve?

01:08:17.000 What date does that fall on?

01:08:18.000 On a Thursday?

01:08:19.000 I think it's Saturday.

01:08:20.000 Really?

01:08:21.000 Is it Saturday, Jamie?

01:08:21.000 Yeah, it's Saturday night.

01:08:22.000 New Year's Eve is on a Saturday night?

01:08:23.000 Yeah, because there's a UFC on Friday.

01:08:25.000 Because UFC didn't want to compete with New Year's Eve.

01:08:28.000 So that's the Ronda Rousey-Amanda Nunes fight.

01:08:30.000 Oh, shit.

01:08:31.000 And Max Holloway and Pettis.

01:08:33.000 No, that's not true.

01:08:34.000 No, no, no.

01:08:34.000 That's next week.

01:08:35.000 That's next week.

01:08:36.000 That's December 10th.

01:08:36.000 Man, that is a short one point.

01:08:38.000 No, what's the other fight?

01:08:38.000 It's not Max Holloway.

01:08:40.000 When is that fight?

01:08:41.000 Max Holloway and Anthony Pest is December 10th.

01:08:44.000 Right.

01:08:44.000 What is the other fight next week?

01:08:46.000 What is the other fight?

01:08:47.000 The other fight is Cowboy Cerrone and Matt Brown.

01:08:51.000 Oh, that's right.

01:08:51.000 Matt Brown.

01:08:52.000 See, I have those both in the same level of expectation.

01:08:57.000 I just don't have the energy.

01:08:58.000 I look at Pettis Holloway, and then I look at...

01:09:01.000 Look, I think...

01:09:03.000 Matt Brown is always death.

01:09:05.000 It's always destruction.

01:09:07.000 It's always hell.

01:09:07.000 They've also trained together.

01:09:09.000 They've trained together at Muscle Farm.

01:09:11.000 How was that?

01:09:12.000 Do you know anything?

01:09:13.000 Give us the inside.

01:09:16.000 Whenever they tell me something, I don't know about it.

01:09:20.000 Don't do that.

01:09:21.000 But listen, everybody knows I'm a big Matt Brown fan.

01:09:24.000 Cowboy's a killer.

01:09:25.000 I'll tell you that.

01:09:25.000 Cowboy at 170 is a video game character.

01:09:28.000 Dude.

01:09:29.000 He's a video game character.

01:09:30.000 He mercs people in training.

01:09:32.000 He's a killer.

01:09:33.000 He mercs people.

01:09:34.000 He's doing something different now because he's not fucking his body up to make 155. We're seeing 100% Cowboy.

01:09:40.000 He's got so much don't give a fuck in him that to take a guy like that and extract all the water out of his body and drain him and deplete him, you deplete some of that spirit that makes him exceptional.

01:09:50.000 When that guy's healthy...

01:09:52.000 A lot of what he carries into the octagon with him is like this zest for life, and it comes out when he's fighting.

01:09:59.000 That gets depleted when your body's depleted.

01:10:02.000 Look at Conor.

01:10:04.000 How good did Conor look at 55?

01:10:06.000 Insane.

01:10:06.000 That's where he should fight.

01:10:07.000 I believe so, too.

01:10:08.000 It's like 70 is obviously way too much.

01:10:10.000 He should have like, holy shit.

01:10:12.000 He should have Aldo come up to 55 for a let's just get this done fight.

01:10:17.000 Oh, Aldo said that.

01:10:18.000 All he goes, let me beat the winner of Max and Pettis.

01:10:22.000 I'll win that belt.

01:10:23.000 Now I'm coming at 55. He should.

01:10:25.000 I'd love to watch that.

01:10:26.000 Well, but Conor can be like, what?

01:10:27.000 I beat you in 19 seconds.

01:10:29.000 Let me rematch Nate, or I might fight Floyd.

01:10:32.000 But doesn't Jose have trouble losing that weight, too?

01:10:35.000 Doesn't he have a motherfucker of a time getting a 45?

01:10:38.000 Oh, yeah.

01:10:38.000 He'd be better at 55, too.

01:10:39.000 This guy's got tits. 1.00

01:10:41.000 He's a cute robber.

01:10:43.000 Jose's had some real issues.

01:10:45.000 Big issues.

01:10:46.000 Where the fuck is he from?

01:10:52.000 What if he just gets knocked out and a vicious head kick in five seconds after that?

01:11:10.000 I gotta sit on your lap for this dude.

01:11:12.000 Yeah, I'm scared.

01:11:13.000 Dude, look at him.

01:11:14.000 He's got some tits! 1.00

01:11:14.000 Look at this sociopath! 1.00

01:11:16.000 Meanwhile, then he goes to put his glove tap.

01:11:18.000 That's some bitch-ass shit. 1.00

01:11:19.000 Wow.

01:11:20.000 You can't do that after you do the other thing.

01:11:22.000 Definitely can't.

01:11:22.000 Never bet against black.

01:11:23.000 Oh, he's gonna get lit up.

01:11:25.000 Powerful reincarnation of Michael Clark ducking.

01:11:29.000 Hey, man.

01:11:29.000 He does look like him.

01:11:30.000 Oh, good uppercut.

01:11:32.000 Oh, he's not fucking all out?

01:11:33.000 He's already hurt.

01:11:34.000 He's already hurt.

01:11:34.000 You don't do a throat slash and not fucking come out of booming.

01:11:38.000 What if he gets knocked out, though?

01:11:39.000 Then it's really embarrassing.

01:11:40.000 Then he will never do that ever again.

01:11:42.000 He made his play.

01:11:43.000 I mean, it's a psychological good move, but it's kind of negated by the fist bump.

01:11:48.000 The fist bump brings the confidence level back up a solid 10%.

01:11:50.000 It sure does.

01:11:51.000 Well, Cannoneer has got to get over the fact the guy's face looks so intimidating.

01:11:55.000 And once he does, he's going to win.

01:11:57.000 Yeah, Brian, I don't think he's looking at his face anymore.

01:12:00.000 Now they touch gloves again.

01:12:01.000 There's a lot of unity going on here, a lot of brothership.

01:12:03.000 A lot of unity, dude.

01:12:05.000 That's getting touched with the right hand.

01:12:06.000 That's going to favor Cannoneer. 0.55

01:12:08.000 Cote Lava keeps his hands down, guys.

01:12:10.000 It's about fundamentals.

01:12:11.000 I've always told you guys, it's about fundamentals.

01:12:13.000 I believe I've heard that from you before.

01:12:16.000 Thanks, buddy.

01:12:16.000 That's something you really...

01:12:17.000 Look at this guy, he's an animal.

01:12:18.000 I do recreational boxing, and I'm a blue belt.

01:12:21.000 You know, my problem lately with MMA is that I've been watching too much Muay Thai.

01:12:29.000 I've been watching a ton of Muay Thai lately.

01:12:31.000 You're a stickler for technique.

01:12:33.000 Well, I just recognize there's another level to be achieved that you're seeing, especially with striking.

01:12:41.000 With a lot of guys, you're seeing a certain level of technique on a consistent basis because they have to concentrate on a lot of different things.

01:12:49.000 Yeah, I know.

01:12:50.000 I understand that.

01:12:51.000 But it's hard when you have a few guys that have achieved this Rory McDonald sort of spectrum where they can kind of do everything really good at a very high level.

01:13:01.000 Like, you remember when Rory McDonald fought JT Torres and Metamoras?

01:13:04.000 Yeah.

01:13:04.000 JT Torres is a very high-level jiu-jitsu guy.

01:13:07.000 Rory hung in with him, almost got Kimura, didn't tap, almost got his arm broke, but ultimately went to a draw.

01:13:12.000 Watching him fight, what's his name, the really high-level French striker...

01:13:18.000 Tarek Safney.

01:13:19.000 Tarek Safney.

01:13:19.000 Yes.

01:13:20.000 And he came out with a whole different style.

01:13:21.000 I was watching him.

01:13:22.000 He's from Belgium.

01:13:23.000 He's from Belgium.

01:13:24.000 But Joe, isn't that the evolution of the sport?

01:13:25.000 Like Roy started MMA when he was 12. MMA! He didn't specialize in anything.

01:13:30.000 So you're gonna see, like you look at fucking homeboy, uh, uh, what's his name?

01:13:34.000 With the spikey hair, looks like, uh, Zach Morris.

01:13:37.000 Yeah, Sage Northcutt.

01:13:39.000 He's also a kid who started.

01:13:40.000 So you're gonna get this wave of guys who Well, Sage started with karate, and he's way more of a karate guy than he is a jiu-jitsu guy.

01:13:49.000 It's not that he's not better at jiu-jitsu now.

01:13:52.000 I mean, he definitely showed that in his last fight, and he's submitted guys in the past.

01:13:56.000 He's just a young kid.

01:13:58.000 He's a freak, too.

01:13:58.000 He's genetically...

01:13:59.000 A fantastic athlete.

01:14:01.000 Yeah.

01:14:01.000 Who's a young kid who's got a lot of life to learn.

01:14:03.000 Is he on the December 10th card against Mickey Gall?

01:14:05.000 When the fuck is that?

01:14:06.000 Did you see him rip that apple in half?

01:14:07.000 That's a barn burner.

01:14:08.000 When is that fight?

01:14:08.000 That's not that impressive, sorry.

01:14:09.000 When is that fight?

01:14:10.000 No, that fight is somewhere else.

01:14:12.000 It's in December, I thought.

01:14:13.000 Am I wrong?

01:14:13.000 Why do I feel like that fight is somewhere else?

01:14:15.000 Mickey Gall versus Sage Northcutt is a fun fight.

01:14:17.000 I feel like that fight is somewhere else.

01:14:19.000 Mickey Gall's a motherfucker, too.

01:14:20.000 He gets a full guard pretty easily.

01:14:22.000 He's a motherfucker.

01:14:23.000 He's a very good jiu-jitsu.

01:14:23.000 I think he's more talented than Sage Northcutt.

01:14:26.000 Oh, I think he's extremely talented, period.

01:14:28.000 And I love how he calls the guys out.

01:14:29.000 He's a big kid, man.

01:14:30.000 Like, we've seen two real good fights from him, and of course one of them was against a guy.

01:14:34.000 Oh, there it is.

01:14:35.000 There it is.

01:14:36.000 Saturday, the 17th, UFC Fight Night.

01:14:38.000 Two cuties.

01:14:39.000 Van Zandt versus Michelle Watterson.

01:14:41.000 Two cuties.

01:14:41.000 Oh, boys, I'm not going to be here for that.

01:14:43.000 Alan Joban, too.

01:14:44.000 How dare you, Joe Rogan.

01:14:45.000 Goddammit.

01:14:45.000 You're out of favor.

01:14:46.000 This is the problem with having family.

01:14:49.000 Where you going, man?

01:14:51.000 Where you headed, sir?

01:14:52.000 Sometimes I wish I was going on vacation, man.

01:14:53.000 Didn't you just go?

01:14:54.000 I go on a lot of vacations, son.

01:14:56.000 I'm not mad at it, sir.

01:14:57.000 I wish I could.

01:14:59.000 I'm in the I-just-want-to-live-life phase of my life.

01:15:03.000 I just want to experience things.

01:15:05.000 I'm not good at vacations yet.

01:15:06.000 I want to go places.

01:15:07.000 I want to experience things.

01:15:08.000 I get better all the time.

01:15:09.000 You know what helps me?

01:15:09.000 Edibles.

01:15:11.000 Really?

01:15:11.000 Holler at your boy?

01:15:12.000 Really?

01:15:12.000 Holler at your boy?

01:15:13.000 No.

01:15:14.000 Holler at your boy?

01:15:14.000 If you can get them, you gotta, but, you know, there's certain places where you can get them.

01:15:17.000 Don't bring them, though.

01:15:19.000 They're pretty easy to get.

01:15:20.000 Don't bring them.

01:15:21.000 Definitely not worth it.

01:15:23.000 I bring my vapor everywhere.

01:15:25.000 Do you?

01:15:25.000 When we do live shit, I bring them everywhere.

01:15:26.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:15:27.000 I mean, TSA? We're homies.

01:15:30.000 Me and TSA are cool as fuck.

01:15:32.000 That's Brian.

01:15:34.000 Clear pass?

01:15:35.000 What's up?

01:15:36.000 In a few years, there's going to be places where they have these spots where you could vape up at the airport.

01:15:41.000 They have wine bars.

01:15:43.000 And right next to those, there'll be counselors.

01:15:46.000 Be a therapist?

01:15:48.000 People go deep and just start fucking crying and thinking about their dad.

01:15:55.000 I just use it to calm down and turn my brain off.

01:15:58.000 I don't do it during the day.

01:16:00.000 This dude is heavily muscled.

01:16:02.000 Which guy?

01:16:03.000 The white guy or the white guy?

01:16:04.000 They're the white fella. 1.00

01:16:05.000 Yeah, you're looking too much at the white guy.

01:16:06.000 Black guy's built better. 0.98

01:16:07.000 The black guy's jacked. 0.98

01:16:08.000 Yeah, he's jacked.

01:16:09.000 They're both jacked as fuck.

01:16:11.000 Brad's like, the white guy.

01:16:12.000 The white guy's leaner.

01:16:13.000 I can identify with him.

01:16:14.000 No, look, they're both jacked.

01:16:15.000 They're both jacked.

01:16:16.000 But that was a confused opening.

01:16:19.000 You gotta talk to that guy about strategy.

01:16:21.000 We really do.

01:16:22.000 Don't ever walk up through the slash and then touch gloves.

01:16:25.000 That was all just for a place, sir.

01:16:26.000 Let's touch gloves.

01:16:27.000 Let's be friends.

01:16:28.000 Well, unless you're the motherfucker of motherfuckers and it doesn't matter. 0.80

01:16:32.000 You come out and Conor McGregor run with a straight left and just put him away.

01:16:36.000 And it doesn't matter if you touch gloves with him.

01:16:37.000 I agree.

01:16:38.000 Do you remember when Conor McGregor talked a freight train full of shit against Dennis Seaver and then beat his ass?

01:16:46.000 Beat his ass.

01:16:46.000 But when they got into the octagon before the fight, he went to shake hands with Dennis Seaver and Dennis Seaver wouldn't put his hand on it.

01:16:52.000 He goes, fuck you.

01:16:54.000 And then he went out and murked him.

01:16:55.000 Yeah.

01:16:56.000 You can't do that to an old ass Dennis Seaver.

01:16:59.000 Dennis Seaver was in there like stiff as fuck, only had that spinning back heel kick in his wheelhouse.

01:17:05.000 I understand, but, you know...

01:17:08.000 Dennis Seaver's like, I'm from Germany, you fuck.

01:17:11.000 We're not having this.

01:17:13.000 And then just got mollywomped in Boston. 1.00

01:17:16.000 The world is a better place because of Conor McGregor.

01:17:19.000 100%.

01:17:20.000 How about he got his boxing license, Joe?

01:17:22.000 He has boxing license.

01:17:24.000 Did you see that?

01:17:24.000 Yeah, good for him.

01:17:25.000 Did you see what he said?

01:17:26.000 Did you see Oscar De La Hoya drunk as fuck talking about Canelo Alvarez?

01:17:36.000 He was talking about Conor McGregor fighting Canelo Alvarez.

01:17:39.000 I love Oscar.

01:17:40.000 Silver up, bud.

01:17:41.000 I'm a giant Oscar De La Hoya fan.

01:17:42.000 Me too.

01:17:42.000 Super fan.

01:17:43.000 People forget how fucking talented the gold is.

01:17:46.000 I saw his first pro fight at the forum.

01:17:49.000 Fuck the dude up in the first round.

01:17:51.000 When he lit up Julio Cesar Chavez, I said, I don't give a fuck what anybody says.

01:17:56.000 That boy's legit.

01:17:57.000 One of the greatest of all time.

01:17:59.000 I was torn.

01:18:00.000 I saw that closed circuit TV at the LA where the Clippers used to play.

01:18:04.000 What was that?

01:18:05.000 Not the LA Forum, but the LA... The Great Western Forum?

01:18:08.000 No, no.

01:18:08.000 It was the LA Arena, Los Angeles.

01:18:10.000 Fucking the Clippers Arena.

01:18:11.000 They had closed circuit.

01:18:13.000 Remember when they used to do that?

01:18:13.000 You'd go to an arena and watch the screens of the boxing.

01:18:16.000 Yeah.

01:18:17.000 I was a big Oscar fan, a big Julio Cesar Chavez fan.

01:18:21.000 I was torn.

01:18:22.000 I had to go with the one who was more Mexican. 0.82

01:18:24.000 Makes sense though.

01:18:25.000 You know what, the real Mexicans are like, Julio can't even speak English. 1.00

01:18:33.000 Listen to this for a second.

01:18:34.000 I'm going to tell you how legit Oscar De La Hoya is.

01:18:37.000 He fought Julio Cesar Chavez and Bernard Hopkins.

01:18:41.000 And Manny Pacquiao.

01:18:43.000 Yeah, and Manny Pacquiao.

01:18:44.000 But he went all the way the fuck up.

01:18:46.000 And Sugar Shane.

01:18:48.000 It went all the way up to Bernard Hopkins.

01:18:50.000 What the fuck is that?

01:18:51.000 Bernard Hopkins, who was the 175 pound world champion.

01:18:56.000 He went up to him.

01:18:57.000 What about his fight with Fernando Vargas?

01:19:00.000 A lot of shit.

01:19:03.000 A lot of shit talked before that fight too.

01:19:05.000 Good looking dude too.

01:19:07.000 Very good looking dude.

01:19:08.000 Hey, ask your boy.

01:19:09.000 Ask your boy.

01:19:10.000 Hush, hush, hush.

01:19:12.000 I'm on all that.

01:19:12.000 Ask your boy Aubrey about Hush Hush up on all that.

01:19:14.000 No, I'm just saying.

01:19:16.000 Hush Hush up on all that.

01:19:18.000 No, I'm not gonna say it!

01:19:19.000 Don't mention specific names.

01:19:21.000 So what?

01:19:22.000 Hey man.

01:19:22.000 Yeah, listen.

01:19:23.000 People have fun.

01:19:24.000 Let's protect Hush [...

01:19:40.000 what's really cool about MMA is that you can't really be the very best at everything.

01:19:45.000 You could be the best at putting it all together for your specific body, the best at handling pressure in your division, but you can't be the best jujitsu guy, the best kickboxer, the best wrestler.

01:19:55.000 No.

01:19:56.000 You don't have time.

01:19:57.000 There's so many super athletes out there.

01:20:00.000 It's almost impossible for one person to be the very best at everything.

01:20:03.000 That's one of the things that makes MMA so exciting, is because you see this collision of different strategies.

01:20:10.000 And you'll see one strategy work for a long time, and you go, hey, ground and pound is where it's at.

01:20:15.000 Remember when Vitor Belfort got up to 240 pounds?

01:20:18.000 Because that was the motherfucking Mark Coleman era.

01:20:20.000 Oh, you're talking about the phenom.

01:20:23.000 Mark Coleman was just tackling dudes and smashing their fucking faces, and everybody panicked.

01:20:32.000 Do you remember when you interviewed him?

01:20:34.000 He was so jacked.

01:20:35.000 Joe interviewed him one time, and this was like literally 15, 16 years ago, and Joe interviewed him, and Mark goes, Joe goes, so what's your strategy?

01:20:43.000 And Mark goes, I'm going to beat the fucking shit out of him.

01:20:45.000 No, no, no, no.

01:20:46.000 He was drunk.

01:20:48.000 You got scared.

01:20:49.000 I did get scared.

01:20:51.000 He liked some beer.

01:20:51.000 But I love Mark.

01:20:52.000 Mark and I have been friends for a long time.

01:20:54.000 So even though I was scared, I was reasonably sure he wasn't going to hurt me.

01:20:57.000 But he picked me up like a pillow.

01:20:59.000 Like I was a pillow.

01:21:01.000 And he spun me around in the air.

01:21:02.000 He did?

01:21:03.000 Mark Coleman.

01:21:03.000 How long ago is this?

01:21:05.000 Hammered Mark Coleman.

01:21:05.000 How long ago?

01:21:06.000 Many a day.

01:21:07.000 Many a day.

01:21:08.000 Many a day.

01:21:08.000 Dude, he's so strong.

01:21:10.000 I remember you said to me, I said, Joe, you were stammering.

01:21:12.000 You go, hey man, I was fucking scared.

01:21:15.000 He's so strong.

01:21:16.000 I felt like I've never felt lighter.

01:21:18.000 I was like, there's gravity.

01:21:20.000 He goes, I'm gonna pick him up, throw him on the ground and beat the fucking shit out of him. 0.92

01:21:23.000 Who was he gonna fight?

01:21:24.000 This is what he said.

01:21:25.000 He goes, I'm gonna take him down, I'm gonna ground and pound the fucking shit out of him.

01:21:29.000 I was asking him about an upcoming fight.

01:21:31.000 Hey, you stammered.

01:21:32.000 You went, um, um, um.

01:21:34.000 I'll never forget when I met him, the first time I met him, it was after he got beat by Maury Smith.

01:21:42.000 And if you remember, he was supposed to crush Maury Smith.

01:21:46.000 Yeah.

01:21:46.000 The kickboxers coming.

01:21:47.000 And at that point, striking was useless.

01:21:51.000 At that point, striking was useless.

01:21:53.000 And Mark Coleman emerged after Hoist.

01:21:55.000 So here comes Maurice Smith, the striker.

01:21:58.000 He don't know any jiu-jitsu.

01:21:59.000 He don't know wrestling.

01:22:00.000 He's going to get fucked up.

01:22:01.000 But he beat him on cardio.

01:22:02.000 Right?

01:22:03.000 Because remember, Mark Coleman kept taking him down.

01:22:05.000 And leg kicks.

01:22:06.000 He kept taking them down.

01:22:07.000 You gotta also give credit to Frank Shamrock.

01:22:09.000 Frank Shamrock worked a lot with Maury Smith before that fight.

01:22:13.000 One of the things they developed is a really good butterfly guard for Maury's.

01:22:17.000 Maury's kept elevating.

01:22:18.000 Mark's hips kept moving around a lot.

01:22:20.000 He had a very hard guard to pass.

01:22:22.000 Shout out to Frank Shamrock.

01:22:24.000 Right away?

01:22:25.000 Maury Smith?

01:22:26.000 What Maurice Smith had that most guys didn't have in the early days is you couldn't pass his guard.

01:22:32.000 He had a very good butterfly guard and he knew how to retain.

01:22:36.000 He used lockdown and shit back in the day.

01:22:38.000 So Mark Coleman kept taking him down at will, but he couldn't finish him off.

01:22:44.000 He didn't have an injury.

01:22:44.000 Here's another point.

01:22:47.000 I love Maurice Smith.

01:22:48.000 Here's another very important point.

01:22:50.000 If you are an outstanding world-class kickboxer like he is, the same principles of defense apply on the ground, with ground and pound.

01:23:00.000 It's harder to move your head backwards, but a guy like that is significantly harder to hit than a guy who's not used to taking punches in front of someone.

01:23:09.000 Not even if he freezes up.

01:23:11.000 So when he sees these big bombs coming, he's doing a lot of this, he's grabbing you, he's not going to sit there and...

01:23:19.000 Of course, there are guys that are overwhelming.

01:23:21.000 There's guys like, I keep bringing up Krokop vs. 0.86

01:23:24.000 Gonzaga.

01:23:24.000 The second fight, when Krokop got revenge, when he got on top of Gonzaga, I'm like, when you see a world-class striker drop elbows on your head from the guard, he doesn't need to be in the mount.

01:23:36.000 He doesn't need to be in side control.

01:23:38.000 Krokop just needs that amount of space, and he is opening your head like a fucking coconut. 0.69

01:23:44.000 He shattered my nose.

01:23:45.000 Oh, dude.

01:23:46.000 Yeah.

01:23:46.000 I was so impressed by that elbow he dropped on Gonzaga.

01:23:49.000 I'm like, see?

01:23:50.000 I knew it.

01:23:51.000 If you could get an Ernesto Hoost on top of you on your mount, do you know what kind of devastation that guy could do to you?

01:23:56.000 On top of that, didn't you say he was the strongest guy you'd ever...

01:23:59.000 By far.

01:23:59.000 You know Mirko was supposed to fight Wanderlei soon in Ryzen?

01:24:02.000 Yeah, Wanderlei pulled out.

01:24:06.000 I don't know why.

01:24:07.000 I don't know why, but if Mirko was saying all kinds of crazy shit about him, he might get injured.

01:24:12.000 I don't know.

01:24:13.000 Who the fuck knows?

01:24:13.000 Let me finish my Maurice Mark Coleman.

01:24:15.000 I would love to see the camp back then, by the way.

01:24:17.000 Mark Coleman.

01:24:19.000 Hammer house.

01:24:20.000 Just bags.

01:24:21.000 Logs on your back, running up hills.

01:24:24.000 When Maury Smith fought Mark Coleman, his pre-fight footage was hidden running upstairs.

01:24:31.000 It was either that fight or his fight with Conan Silviero, but I remember him, he'd be interviewed, I'm Maury Smith, I've been kickboxing, I'm a world champion, and they'd show him running upstairs and shit in a football stadium.

01:24:45.000 That was his B-roll.

01:24:47.000 And that's how he beat Mark Coleman.

01:24:49.000 And he beat him on car.

01:24:51.000 Mark Coleman was fucking holding his knees.

01:24:54.000 He was like bent over.

01:24:56.000 And Maury Smith just started fucking kicking him and beating the shit out of his legs.

01:25:01.000 Let me tell you this.

01:25:02.000 Maury Smith was probably the first guy to ever talk shit in the middle of a world championship fight.

01:25:07.000 I was ringside for that.

01:25:09.000 This is back when I was the post-fight interviewer.

01:25:13.000 He was going, come on, Mark.

01:25:14.000 Grant and pound me, Mark.

01:25:15.000 Come on, Mark.

01:25:16.000 Damn.

01:25:17.000 In between kicks.

01:25:18.000 Come on, Mark.

01:25:20.000 He's like, come on, Mark.

01:25:21.000 By the way, people forget, Maury Smith was every bit of 230 pounds.

01:25:26.000 How about this?

01:25:27.000 Maury Smith was the first guy to incorporate high kick in a world championship fight when he fought Conan Silviera.

01:25:35.000 He fought Conan Silviera in World Extreme Cage Fighting.

01:25:37.000 Remember that shit?

01:25:38.000 Conan's a big dude.

01:25:39.000 That was back when John Peretti was the interviewer.

01:25:43.000 He was doing my job.

01:25:44.000 John Peretti.

01:25:45.000 Shout out to John Peretti.

01:25:46.000 Shout out to John.

01:25:49.000 Controversial.

01:25:49.000 I love that guy's commentary.

01:25:51.000 I always loved his commentary.

01:25:52.000 John Peretti was the stunt coordinator.

01:25:55.000 He worked in stunts on Oz.

01:25:57.000 That guy sent me a fucking direct message on Twitter one day.

01:26:03.000 I know everybody gets busy, but I'm not shitting on him.

01:26:06.000 He sent me a direct message like, I always had respect for you.

01:26:09.000 I can't believe that you wouldn't have me on your podcast.

01:26:13.000 Who said that?

01:26:14.000 John Preddy.

01:26:15.000 So I sent him a Twitter message back.

01:26:16.000 I said, dude, I'd love to have you on my podcast.

01:26:18.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

01:26:19.000 Whoever said that is definitely incorrect.

01:26:23.000 Come on by, son.

01:26:24.000 I was always a fan of John Preddy.

01:26:26.000 You never heard back?

01:26:27.000 Never heard back from him.

01:26:28.000 But if I did hear back from him, but if he hears this, I got nothing but respect for John Peretti.

01:26:34.000 I enjoyed his commentary back in the day.

01:26:36.000 I thought he was fun and honest, and he knew the fuck, he knew a lot of shit about fighting.

01:26:41.000 God, dog, we gotta scrap here.

01:26:42.000 Our boy's getting fucked up.

01:26:44.000 Yeah, he's getting tired.

01:26:44.000 The guy doing the throat slashing?

01:26:45.000 Get worked!

01:26:46.000 Yeah, he's getting beat up.

01:26:47.000 He's getting beat up, taking some shots.

01:26:49.000 But like, John Paredes doesn't get the respect he deserves.

01:26:51.000 There was no one before him.

01:26:53.000 You have to understand, this guy was like literally one of the very first guys who was a high-level mixed martial artist, did jujitsu, kickbox, and was doing commentary for MMA. He was like one of the very first guys.

01:27:05.000 And they owned the show, that battle cage show or something.

01:27:06.000 Exactly, which had some great fucking fights. 0.94

01:27:08.000 Brought Hal Gracie to the world.

01:27:08.000 Why is he so controversy?

01:27:10.000 Why is he so comfortable?

01:27:11.000 He's very direct.

01:27:12.000 He was one of the first.

01:27:15.000 A lot of promoters have personalities and they're like, you've got to have a certain personality to deal with the fighters, the staff.

01:27:24.000 Man, it's fucking stressful.

01:27:26.000 But John spoke his mind.

01:27:27.000 John, I had many conversations with him on the set and that guy was not interested in being a diplomat or your friend.

01:27:34.000 He was just very direct and very honest and had the confidence.

01:27:37.000 By the way, built like a brick shithouse, by the way.

01:27:40.000 Yeah, we had good conversations back when I used to work for the UFC back in 97. I never got to know him well, you know?

01:27:46.000 And then I took a break, and then the UFC, they sold it, and then Peretti wasn't there anymore.

01:27:51.000 Keep your hands up, bro.

01:27:54.000 Nice back fist.

01:27:55.000 I like the back fist.

01:27:56.000 Back to the Mark Coleman thing.

01:27:57.000 I never finished the Mark Coleman thing.

01:27:58.000 Let Eddie Brado finish the Mark Coleman story.

01:28:01.000 So after all that...

01:28:02.000 Maurice Smith beats Mark Coleman.

01:28:04.000 I go to a UFC in Louisiana.

01:28:07.000 I meet Joe there.

01:28:08.000 Joe's doing backstage commentary.

01:28:09.000 I go down there with Ricky Rocket, drummer from Poison.

01:28:12.000 We're hanging out.

01:28:13.000 We're like, let's go see a UFC. It's in a small 3,000-seat arena.

01:28:16.000 Just a bunch of crazy motherfuckers in Kemper, Louisiana.

01:28:20.000 1997, when Frank Shamrock...

01:28:24.000 Double-legged Igor Zinoviev and broke his calavicle, and that was the end of the fight.

01:28:28.000 That was when Mikey Burnett beat up fucking Eugenio Taddeo.

01:28:33.000 That's old school shit.

01:28:34.000 Most y'all don't remember that shit, but that's old school shit.

01:28:37.000 I was actually there live, met Joe.

01:28:39.000 Vito was there.

01:28:41.000 Remember, Vito had a white...

01:28:44.000 Miami Vice.

01:28:45.000 It was awesome.

01:28:46.000 But he was all young and shit.

01:28:48.000 But anyways...

01:28:49.000 I ran into Mark Coleman.

01:28:51.000 That's when Eddie Bravo and I became friends.

01:28:53.000 I was like, look at Vitor.

01:28:54.000 He's on my fucking set of Miami Vice.

01:28:57.000 We were just cracking up.

01:28:58.000 That was pre-weed for me.

01:29:00.000 Yeah, he was like 19 years old.

01:29:01.000 Looked like a fucking buff ass.

01:29:04.000 Weed changed your life?

01:29:05.000 Enrique Inglés.

01:29:07.000 But anyway, so I run into Mark Coleman at that show.

01:29:09.000 This is the end.

01:29:10.000 I promise.

01:29:11.000 We're ending.

01:29:11.000 All that shit was a setup.

01:29:13.000 I run into Mark Coleman.

01:29:14.000 All that shit's a setup.

01:29:15.000 And I'm like grilling.

01:29:16.000 I'm like asking him all these questions.

01:29:18.000 I'm like, so this is after the Maurice Smith fight where he gasped.

01:29:22.000 I go, dude, I go, what are you going to do?

01:29:25.000 What did you learn from that fight?

01:29:27.000 He goes, what are you going to do different?

01:29:29.000 He goes, brother, look down on my feet.

01:29:33.000 I look down.

01:29:34.000 He had jogging shoes on that Nike.

01:29:37.000 He goes, I'm running, brother.

01:29:39.000 I'm running.

01:29:40.000 I'm running.

01:29:41.000 Increase his cardio.

01:29:43.000 That's hilarious.

01:29:46.000 He goes, look at my shoes, dude.

01:29:49.000 I got tennis shoes on and we're at the UFC. I should be having some fucking boots on or something.

01:29:55.000 I got tennis shoes.

01:29:56.000 He's going to run sprints after the press conference.

01:29:59.000 I'll give you a recent story.

01:30:00.000 It's not to shit on Mark Coleman.

01:30:01.000 I sat next to him at a live belt where I went to and he had some of the best stories of all time.

01:30:06.000 But he is a chatty Cathy.

01:30:09.000 I was listening to him tell stories.

01:30:11.000 I missed every single fight, man.

01:30:13.000 He's a great dude.

01:30:15.000 I had the best stories of all time.

01:30:16.000 Was he drunk?

01:30:17.000 Here's my advice in the fucking future.

01:30:19.000 You DVR the fights.

01:30:20.000 You go back and you watch them.

01:30:21.000 You enjoy time with one of the fucking Hall of Famers.

01:30:24.000 Jesus Christ.

01:30:26.000 No, I enjoyed my time.

01:30:26.000 You have an opportunity to sit right next to Mark Coleman while he's hammered.

01:30:30.000 He was the destroyer.

01:30:31.000 He was the destroyer for a while, man.

01:30:35.000 And you should have been buying him beer and leaning your ear in his direction.

01:30:38.000 I did.

01:30:39.000 That's what you should have been doing.

01:30:39.000 I did.

01:30:40.000 He wouldn't give me an itch either.

01:30:41.000 I was squished in there like a motherfucker.

01:30:43.000 The fans bought him a Gillian drink.

01:30:46.000 I didn't have a chance to buy him a drink.

01:30:47.000 One drink after the other.

01:30:50.000 He blew up!

01:30:51.000 And then he kind of had a little downside.

01:30:53.000 But then he won that Pride fucking Grand Prix.

01:30:56.000 And he came back strong.

01:30:57.000 He was like, dude, he was fucking yoke as shit. 0.99

01:31:00.000 Remember how fucking crazy his body was?

01:31:03.000 Mark Coleman and Pride.

01:31:05.000 Dude, he was like Lou Ferrigno.

01:31:07.000 He's a legend.

01:31:09.000 He's had some surgeries lately.

01:31:11.000 I remember when he choked out Dan Henderson with that scarf hold. 0.98

01:31:13.000 Remember that?

01:31:14.000 He had him like a side headlock scarf hold type situation.

01:31:17.000 I remember when he had- Not Dan Henderson, excuse me.

01:31:22.000 Dan Severn.

01:31:22.000 Did I say Henderson?

01:31:23.000 Dan Severn.

01:31:24.000 I meant Dan Severn.

01:31:26.000 Dude, that was his shit.

01:31:27.000 Mark Coleman for a while, that was his shit.

01:31:28.000 I'm going to headlock you and fucking... 1.00

01:31:29.000 That's a legit move, by the way.

01:31:31.000 When you're that strong, and that's the last thing you said, hey, brother, let me tell you something.

01:31:34.000 Strength is a skill.

01:31:36.000 Strength is a skill.

01:31:37.000 He's strong, but that's a skilled move.

01:31:39.000 I know this.

01:31:40.000 It's true.

01:31:40.000 It is, though.

01:31:41.000 I know a Brazilian doodop.

01:31:43.000 He would do that.

01:31:44.000 He's 175 pounds, and he was really good at just taking that side headlock and just fucking balancing and squeezing.

01:31:52.000 Oh, Shane Carr would have popped his head like a zit doing that.

01:31:54.000 It's not just a strongman move.

01:31:55.000 It's actually a real move that people just don't explore.

01:31:59.000 But there's a guy named Duda, and he fucking tapped me with that shit.

01:32:04.000 175 pounds, like a big dude.

01:32:06.000 Dude, I was very talented.

01:32:07.000 Hey, before I forget, what was the doodah?

01:32:10.000 There was a move from rubber guard.

01:32:13.000 It's a rubber guard move.

01:32:14.000 It's like in the rubber guard family. 1.00

01:32:17.000 After the show.

01:32:18.000 You're trying to get a zombie, but you can't.

01:32:20.000 It's halfway through, your hands through.

01:32:21.000 Right, I remember it.

01:32:22.000 And you just do a bicep crusher with your legs.

01:32:25.000 I remember it, but I don't remember how to do it.

01:32:28.000 This guy's getting crazy.

01:32:30.000 That guy has a whole system around her and there's nobody on the planet like that motherfucker with that shit. 1.00

01:32:34.000 I've never seen anybody from the guard setting up wrist fucking bicep smashers and flipping and rolling people.

01:32:40.000 We've seen about 30 seconds of the fight.

01:32:43.000 What the fuck?

01:32:43.000 38. About 38 seconds.

01:32:45.000 This one, people were giving a stand ovation.

01:32:48.000 It looked pretty good.

01:32:48.000 Yeah, well, it's always interesting when one guy gives the fucking...

01:32:53.000 Caboosh! 1.00

01:32:53.000 Much better. 1.00

01:32:54.000 Good boxer, this guy.

01:32:55.000 The neck slice.

01:32:57.000 Yeah, he definitely was way more calm on his feet when he stood in front of him.

01:33:00.000 And it was like, well, you also realize this dude was kind of gassed out.

01:33:03.000 Got a little emotional before the fight.

01:33:05.000 You know, you're either a killer or you want everybody to think you're a killer.

01:33:08.000 Yeah, it's an act.

01:33:09.000 And the killers are like Fedor, who never did any of that stupid shit.

01:33:12.000 He never got emotional.

01:33:15.000 Look at Cain.

01:33:16.000 Cain Velasquez is my all-time favorite weigh-in face.

01:33:20.000 Because he doesn't give a fuck.

01:33:22.000 Nothing.

01:33:22.000 You can talk all the shit if you want.

01:33:24.000 I'm not going to be a little nervous.

01:33:26.000 I'm going to have a full tank of gas, and I'm going to rain bombs down on you until it's all over, bitch. 1.00

01:33:32.000 Yeah.

01:33:32.000 When does he fight next?

01:33:33.000 December 30th.

01:33:34.000 He's fighting December 30th, but man, there was just some...

01:33:37.000 He needs surgery, though.

01:33:38.000 What the fuck does he need surgery on?

01:33:39.000 I don't want to hear that.

01:33:40.000 It's like his 12th surgery since he's been in the UFC. But you can't say you've got a fight coming up and then afterwards you're going to get surgery.

01:33:47.000 Why not?

01:33:48.000 Because that's a ridiculous thing to say.

01:33:50.000 That's the life they live, brother.

01:33:51.000 I understand, but to say it publicly seems pretty ridiculous if there's insurance involved.

01:33:57.000 That's a good point.

01:33:57.000 From a business move, but as a fan, you gotta appreciate the honesty.

01:34:00.000 That's true, too.

01:34:01.000 He goes, really?

01:34:02.000 I should have surgery?

01:34:02.000 That's true, too.

01:34:03.000 But I want to beat this motherfucker so bad and get to the title shot, I'm going to wait and do it after. 0.85

01:34:07.000 Well, here's a good question.

01:34:08.000 Look at BJ looking good!

01:34:10.000 He does look very healthy.

01:34:11.000 He looks very lean.

01:34:12.000 Let me ask you this.

01:34:13.000 Very lean.

01:34:14.000 Do you think that insurance should cover all of the injuries sustained during training, which of course all of them are?

01:34:20.000 Yes.

01:34:21.000 100%, right?

01:34:22.000 I agree with you.

01:34:23.000 They're worth $4 billion.

01:34:24.000 So, is that the case right now?

01:34:26.000 Like, what does insurance cover now?

01:34:28.000 Does it only cover things that happen in a fight?

01:34:30.000 No, it covers...

01:34:31.000 I'm almost positive you'd have to ask when you're UFC boys, but I'm pretty sure it covers when you're in training camp for that fight.

01:34:38.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:34:38.000 Like a certain amount of weeks outside of training camp as you're preparing for the bout.

01:34:42.000 But if, let's say, I have nothing scheduled and I get hurt, it doesn't cover that.

01:34:45.000 So if that's the case, then what he said was actually kind of gangster.

01:34:49.000 Yeah.

01:34:49.000 You're right.

01:34:49.000 Very gangster.

01:34:50.000 Super gangster.

01:34:50.000 Because he's already covered by insurance, and he's going to come in and say, look, I know I'm kind of injured here, but I'll deal with it and beat your ass.

01:34:57.000 Yep.

01:34:57.000 How great is that?

01:34:58.000 That's pretty gangster.

01:34:59.000 Good old Mike Brown warming up.

01:35:01.000 Apparently, Frankie Edgar had a fucking pretty significant knee injury leading up to the fight with Jeremy Stephens.

01:35:07.000 Well, how about Verdum?

01:35:08.000 They said he went into the fight against Travis Brown with a broken foot.

01:35:11.000 Meanwhile, he jumped and sidekicked him in the face.

01:35:13.000 And landed that shit like the Matrix.

01:35:16.000 And wobbled that motherfucker. 1.00

01:35:17.000 First move of the fight, man.

01:35:18.000 So gangster, man.

01:35:20.000 Well, fighting's hard enough, let alone with broken foot, neck.

01:35:23.000 Travis Brown had two crazy things happen to him in that fight.

01:35:27.000 There's that kick that he opens up with like, where the fuck is this coming from?

01:35:30.000 And then when Verdum threw that punch and hit his finger.

01:35:36.000 Remember?

01:35:36.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:35:38.000 Verdum threw this crazy...

01:35:40.000 He snapped his finger.

01:35:41.000 And you wouldn't have waited a second, right?

01:35:42.000 He's fair fucking game there.

01:35:44.000 He's like, hold on, I went, excuse me?

01:35:47.000 I'm gonna kick you right in the face. 1.00

01:35:48.000 Oh, that's awful.

01:35:49.000 It's a weird thing, man, because if he says, excuse me, I'm done, it's over, my finger's broken, then they stop the fight, then you're correct to not attack him.

01:35:58.000 But he went, just give me a second, let me fix my finger.

01:36:01.000 I mean, but here's the thing, I didn't want that fight to end right there, did you?

01:36:05.000 It's not about that.

01:36:06.000 As a fighter, I want that fight to end.

01:36:08.000 But do you want to leave room for an emotional mistake in a time of duress?

01:36:13.000 Like that?

01:36:14.000 Where someone...

01:36:15.000 I do.

01:36:15.000 Like, UK, are you ready to go on?

01:36:17.000 He goes, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am.

01:36:19.000 And then jumps back in.

01:36:21.000 Like, there's moments where something can go wrong where you don't even realize, like, is there a malfunction in my glove?

01:36:26.000 Why is my finger bent sideways?

01:36:28.000 Hold on, hold on, what the fuck's going on?

01:36:29.000 Yes.

01:36:30.000 There is moments, but where do you draw the line?

01:36:33.000 Where do you draw the line?

01:36:34.000 You take it back to Game of fucking Thrones.

01:36:36.000 That would let him fix that fucking thing.

01:36:38.000 But where do you draw the line?

01:36:39.000 Ah shit, I'm gonna come around.

01:36:40.000 You're about to snap my arm.

01:36:41.000 No, I'll give you the answer.

01:36:42.000 The answer might be.

01:36:43.000 It was like an eye poke.

01:36:44.000 The answer might be.

01:36:45.000 Because this is why I'm gonna shit on both of these.

01:36:48.000 Oh damn, look at this.

01:36:49.000 The reason why that doesn't count is because it didn't happen from him going for a takedown against his cage.

01:36:55.000 It happened because Verdum threw a punch aimed at his hand and it broke his No, no, no.

01:37:03.000 Travis had his hands up, and Verdum threw one of them crazy Chuck Liddell-style overhands, and it landed on the fingers.

01:37:10.000 Correct.

01:37:11.000 It was a strike that broke his fingers.

01:37:14.000 Big difference.

01:37:17.000 Yes, you're right.

01:37:17.000 A function of that injury is, you could argue, is poor technique, right?

01:37:22.000 Not poor technique.

01:37:24.000 That might work with MMA or with boxing gloves, rather, or Muay Thai gloves, you know, to have your hands over there.

01:37:28.000 Sure, but you could say the same thing about a guy who's got his hands up.

01:37:30.000 But to have your hands open like this, and to have a kick coming at you and your hands open this way.

01:37:33.000 It also helps him, too.

01:37:34.000 Or a punch, rather.

01:37:35.000 It also gives him advantages, too.

01:37:37.000 Because it gives him some more space.

01:37:39.000 Let's see if we can see it.

01:37:40.000 Let's see if we can see it.

01:37:41.000 Talk to Jon Jones about having an open hand.

01:37:43.000 Oh, yeah.

01:37:43.000 Well, that's offensively, though.

01:37:45.000 Let's look at the punch.

01:37:47.000 Good rebuttal.

01:37:48.000 I like that rebuttal.

01:37:49.000 That's a good point.

01:37:49.000 But, at the same time, how often do you practice punching fingers?

01:37:54.000 How often do you practice punching fingers in the gym?

01:37:56.000 Once a week or twice a week?

01:37:57.000 I don't practice snapping arms or knocking guys out either.

01:38:01.000 Oh, you don't?

01:38:02.000 You don't practice arm bars?

01:38:04.000 You don't practice arm bars?

01:38:05.000 How could you not practice arm bars?

01:38:06.000 We don't practice snapping the actual arm.

01:38:08.000 No, arm bars aren't snapping arms.

01:38:11.000 Guys, we're looking at this fight right here.

01:38:13.000 This is the punch that landed.

01:38:15.000 It's an offensive move by Verdun.

01:38:17.000 But I can't fault anything Travis did.

01:38:19.000 That was a freak accident.

01:38:20.000 Because he's doing the right thing.

01:38:22.000 But Joe, that doesn't matter.

01:38:23.000 As far as holding his hand up.

01:38:23.000 It doesn't matter.

01:38:24.000 You're right.

01:38:24.000 No, listen, I agree with you.

01:38:26.000 Now, if he did it and his finger caught in his shorts and you're like, fuck, give him a second limb to figure out if he wants to continue.

01:38:31.000 Here's the question.

01:38:31.000 It's an offensive move.

01:38:38.000 We have some weird sort of distinction, right?

01:38:41.000 Which is why you can say timeout for that, but you can't say timeout if you get hit in the nose.

01:38:45.000 That's right.

01:38:45.000 Well, you can't if you're Verdum, because Verdum went, there's no fucking timeouts in one afternoon.

01:38:49.000 Everyone's like, that's ridiculous!

01:38:51.000 Why is that ridiculous?

01:38:51.000 But it's not ridiculous.

01:38:52.000 And I brought that up in the post-fight interview.

01:38:54.000 I was really clear.

01:38:55.000 Like, you were well within your rights to go after him.

01:38:57.000 Correct.

01:38:57.000 That was inside the rules.

01:38:58.000 But for the audience, and for let's just be cool about it, okay, your finger got caught.

01:39:04.000 I don't fucking want you to die.

01:39:06.000 But that's up to it.

01:39:08.000 There's millions of dollars on the line.

01:39:09.000 You know what I mean?

01:39:09.000 It's like, come on.

01:39:11.000 But hold on a second.

01:39:12.000 Teddy's got a good point, too.

01:39:13.000 It's like, the audience wants it to go on.

01:39:16.000 Like, we're like, we paid.

01:39:17.000 And it's not like...

01:39:17.000 It's like no big deal.

01:39:19.000 And for that one guy, it only makes sense for the guy that threw the punch.

01:39:24.000 That's the only guy that it makes sense.

01:39:26.000 He inflicted damage.

01:39:26.000 Everybody else is like, come on, man.

01:39:28.000 He inflicted damage where he couldn't continue.

01:39:30.000 But nobody's trying to break fingers with punches.

01:39:32.000 If that was part of the sport, like, you've got to practice breaking fingers.

01:39:36.000 It's not illegal.

01:39:37.000 It's not illegal.

01:39:38.000 Let me knock down some walls here.

01:39:40.000 It's not illegal.

01:39:42.000 Give Joe Rogan the floor.

01:39:44.000 Let me knock down some walls here.

01:39:46.000 You're both right.

01:39:47.000 You're both right.

01:39:48.000 You're both right.

01:39:49.000 Yeah, it is absolutely...

01:39:50.000 Listen, it's absolutely...

01:39:52.000 One of the rules, I'm right.

01:39:52.000 Hold on!

01:39:54.000 End the fight! 0.64

01:39:55.000 It's absolutely an injury caused by someone executing a technique, but wouldn't you like the fight to keep going?

01:40:02.000 Stop the fight! 0.99

01:40:03.000 That doesn't matter!

01:40:04.000 Would you like...

01:40:05.000 Stop the fight! 0.99

01:40:05.000 Would you like... 0.99

01:40:07.000 Cain Velasquez, or excuse me, Fabricio Verdum to win on technical knockout due to a finger break.

01:40:12.000 Joe, that doesn't matter.

01:40:14.000 I agree.

01:40:15.000 I agree with you.

01:40:16.000 Here's the answer.

01:40:16.000 I agree with you, but I'm not saying within the rules.

01:40:19.000 I'm saying, what do you want to see?

01:40:20.000 Let me knock some walls down.

01:40:22.000 Guys, let me walk...

01:40:23.000 Brian's going to knock some more walls.

01:40:24.000 Let me wrap this shit up.

01:40:26.000 Let me wrap this shit up.

01:40:27.000 You gotta stop talking over each other.

01:40:29.000 It's brutal.

01:40:30.000 But I'm the wise one.

01:40:32.000 Let me wrap this up, guys.

01:40:33.000 Okay.

01:40:33.000 Let me cork it up.

01:40:34.000 Quote something from the Washington Post for us.

01:40:36.000 It's fair to say...

01:40:36.000 Hold on, no.

01:40:37.000 It's fair to say...

01:40:38.000 It's fair to say you know it when you see it.

01:40:41.000 Yes.

01:40:42.000 Right?

01:40:43.000 And it's up to you.

01:40:44.000 There are certain things in life.

01:40:45.000 There's discretion.

01:40:46.000 Know it when you see it.

01:40:47.000 Leave it up to the fighters.

01:40:48.000 Leave it up to the ref.

01:40:49.000 You'll know it when you see it.

01:40:50.000 It's going to be a case-by-case basis.

01:40:52.000 I say, Brendan, you win.

01:40:53.000 Fucking boom!

01:40:54.000 You win, Brendan.

01:40:54.000 Write that down, America.

01:40:55.000 Brian Callen just won.

01:40:56.000 Thank you.

01:40:57.000 Brian Callen just won.

01:40:57.000 He won, but Brendan won.

01:40:59.000 Look, there's just choices.

01:41:02.000 Every situation is different.

01:41:04.000 But also, you don't know what happened to your finger.

01:41:06.000 I mean, he just got cracked.

01:41:07.000 He doesn't know what happened.

01:41:09.000 He might have thought his finger, because it wasn't working right, was tied up in his glove.

01:41:13.000 He had a look at it.

01:41:14.000 I don't think Verdum is wrong.

01:41:16.000 I think Verdum's 100% right.

01:41:18.000 But I think there's a moment of confusion.

01:41:21.000 It's not like Travis got head kicked and was confused because he got almost knocked out.

01:41:25.000 I think when his finger was fucked up, he didn't necessarily know what was going on. 0.53

01:41:29.000 Yeah.

01:41:30.000 It was split second.

01:41:31.000 I think whether or not that's true, I don't know.

01:41:33.000 Only he knows.

01:41:33.000 But I'm saying there's a total possibility.

01:41:35.000 Oh, no.

01:41:36.000 I'm sure you get your finger smashed.

01:41:37.000 Joe's the author mediator, right?

01:41:39.000 No, I'm just like...

01:41:40.000 Joe's right.

01:41:41.000 Joe's like, bro.

01:41:42.000 I tried to look at the whole thing.

01:41:43.000 I tried to look at the whole thing.

01:41:45.000 Brother, I am.

01:41:45.000 I'm saying, even if he was like, oh, shit, my finger's broke.

01:41:48.000 I'm not going to be like, damn, is that broke?

01:41:50.000 You all right, bro?

01:41:51.000 All right, let's keep going.

01:41:51.000 On the street, what would you do?

01:41:52.000 I broke your fucking finger.

01:41:54.000 Here comes a head kick to finish it off. 1.00

01:41:57.000 Wow.

01:41:57.000 Because we have millions of dollars on the line here.

01:41:59.000 Yeah.

01:41:59.000 It's not anger.

01:42:00.000 It's professional sports.

01:42:01.000 No, no, no.

01:42:01.000 I agree.

01:42:02.000 You're right.

01:42:02.000 You're right, too.

01:42:03.000 Brendan wins.

01:42:04.000 No, I agree.

01:42:05.000 Listen, here's the thing, man.

01:42:06.000 I don't want to argue with him.

01:42:06.000 And then he said, oh, I broke your finger.

01:42:08.000 Hey, here's your coach.

01:42:09.000 I'm literally not even arguing with you because I see your point 100%.

01:42:13.000 I see what kind of guy you are, too, Brendan.

01:42:15.000 I see.

01:42:16.000 But I also, as a person who's greedy, when I'm at home, I want to see them keep fighting.

01:42:21.000 I'm with you, Joe.

01:42:22.000 As a fan, you want to see them keep fighting.

01:42:24.000 Me, too.

01:42:24.000 What about Fabricio?

01:42:26.000 You're right.

01:42:26.000 I'm greedy.

01:42:27.000 You know what?

01:42:27.000 I'm a fan of Fabricio, and I would like to see him win, but there's a feeling that I get from someone winning by a broken finger that I don't like.

01:42:35.000 Correct.

01:42:35.000 I like the feeling.

01:42:38.000 Fabricio won a clear decision.

01:42:39.000 He beat the shit out of him.

01:42:40.000 What's the problem, then?

01:42:42.000 No, no, there's no problem.

01:42:43.000 What the fuck is the problem?

01:42:46.000 The problem was the loss.

01:42:49.000 Brendan's like, yeah, he won, but he should have won by broken finger.

01:42:53.000 He should have won by broken finger.

01:42:56.000 Here's a better question.

01:42:57.000 Here's a better question, because it's an illegal move.

01:42:59.000 How much of an effect should an eye poke be?

01:43:03.000 Because I really feel like...

01:43:04.000 Changes the game.

01:43:05.000 I think not only does it change the game, like Mitrione versus Travis Brown.

01:43:08.000 Here's a case where the foul went in Travis's favor.

01:43:11.000 When he poked Mitrione.

01:43:14.000 And stood by the commission, too.

01:43:15.000 Yeah, stood by the commission.

01:43:16.000 And he did it twice.

01:43:17.000 It was two eye pokes.

01:43:19.000 And then Mitrione, who was winning the fight, then goes to losing the fight.

01:43:23.000 It's a significant factor.

01:43:25.000 One eye?

01:43:26.000 It's almost so significant that if you're marginally impaired from it, you might want to stop the fight.

01:43:32.000 I agree.

01:43:32.000 How do you feel about...

01:43:33.000 So it's just crazy because in the moment, it's such a difficult, like, rational decision to make.

01:43:38.000 But if you're fucked up and you can barely see out of one eye, you're like, no, I want to keep going, I want to keep going.

01:43:42.000 Joe, you've been poked in the eye.

01:43:43.000 It's terrible.

01:43:44.000 How long does it take before that bitch recovers? 1.00

01:43:46.000 It depends.

01:43:47.000 20 minutes?

01:43:48.000 Hey, man.

01:43:48.000 Some guys never come back from it.

01:43:50.000 Ask Michael Binkley.

01:43:51.000 Well, that was a kick, I believe.

01:43:52.000 Still, I'm just saying his eye's fucked up.

01:43:53.000 But yeah, any eye injury could be, like, semi-fucked.

01:43:56.000 When you get to scratch in the eye, is there a possibility that they're...

01:44:00.000 They could design some kind of fighting goggle thing?

01:44:05.000 Is that a possibility?

01:44:06.000 We have to protect the eyes.

01:44:08.000 This is what I would say.

01:44:10.000 Too many eyes are getting poked.

01:44:11.000 The only way you could do it is if you came up with some sort of adhesive, like some crazy, crazy glue shit that you could stick this fucking thing to your face where it's impossible to pull it off.

01:44:21.000 And works with grappling.

01:44:22.000 Well, that was the only way.

01:44:24.000 It would have to literally almost be like cups that covered your eyes, but were glued into your head, and then afterwards they put some solvent on.

01:44:31.000 But then we would find out five years later that fucking people are dying from cancer or brain cancer.

01:44:37.000 Well, you know, four guys are soaking them in testosterone and shit in their eyes.

01:44:40.000 Well, in Planet of the Apes, when they make you dirty, they used to have a chemical that they would make your costume dirty.

01:44:47.000 Did you read that in the movie?

01:44:49.000 In Planet of the Apes, the movie with Mark Wahlberg.

01:44:53.000 No, they found the stuff that they used was a chemical that doesn't leave your lungs.

01:44:57.000 Hey, can we please, as all fellow MMA fans, can we actually watch this fight?

01:45:02.000 This is a fun fight.

01:45:02.000 This is a dope fight.

01:45:04.000 Jorge Masvidal versus Jake the Juggerfuck.

01:45:08.000 He's pretty good, right?

01:45:08.000 Fuck yes.

01:45:09.000 Oh, he's a killer.

01:45:11.000 He's slick.

01:45:12.000 Great boxer.

01:45:14.000 Great striker.

01:45:15.000 A little too short.

01:45:16.000 We gotta be honest.

01:45:17.000 He was Kimbo style before Kimbo.

01:45:18.000 But I gotta tell you man, Jake Ellenberger, coming off of that KO of Matt Brown, like he was on the death's doorstop.

01:45:24.000 Dude, he had to beg for his job.

01:45:25.000 He had to beg for his job.

01:45:27.000 He said, please just give me one more fight.

01:45:28.000 They go, okay, Matt Brown.

01:45:29.000 He was like, oh my god, I can't believe this.

01:45:31.000 I'll take it.

01:45:32.000 And he's like, I'll take it.

01:45:32.000 And he went out there and stopped Matt Brown in one round.

01:45:35.000 His manager went, come on Joe, give someone else.

01:45:38.000 And Joe said, fuck it then, you're cutting it.

01:45:40.000 No, no, we'll take it.

01:45:41.000 We'll take it.

01:45:41.000 How do you know that happened?

01:45:43.000 How does that get out?

01:45:44.000 How does shit like that get out?

01:45:45.000 Let's just not say that.

01:45:46.000 Let's not say that.

01:45:47.000 By the way, the narrative just got significantly weakened by your interjection of gossip and innuendo.

01:45:52.000 What did you read that on the Washington Post?

01:45:54.000 Jake, the fucking juggernaut Ellenberger.

01:45:54.000 I got Ellenberger in this.

01:45:56.000 The UFC section of the Washington Post.

01:45:59.000 Imagine that.

01:45:59.000 Come on, Jake.

01:46:00.000 I'm rooting for Jake.

01:46:01.000 All due respect to Masvidal, who's awesome.

01:46:03.000 I love Jake.

01:46:04.000 I love Jake.

01:46:04.000 Jake Ellenberg is a bowhunter.

01:46:06.000 There's going to be a left-wing MMA and then a right-wing MMA. And they're going to get into their personalities and their lives.

01:46:13.000 Guess what?

01:46:13.000 Right-wing is going to win.

01:46:15.000 Damn right.

01:46:16.000 It's going to be a real problem.

01:46:17.000 Right-wing eats meat and does sports.

01:46:19.000 And all the guys who have money that win a lot are going to be right-wing.

01:46:22.000 Fuck yeah.

01:46:23.000 Ellenberg doesn't support NAFTA. All rights can invade MMA. That would be hilarious.

01:46:33.000 Masvidal is for the UN treaty of...

01:46:37.000 Masvidal had a hashtag, I'm with her, on his Twitter account for four hours.

01:46:41.000 We have screenshots.

01:46:43.000 And it's like Republicans against Democrats.

01:46:45.000 It's red and blue.

01:46:46.000 In the future.

01:46:47.000 Oh my god, it is red and blue.

01:46:49.000 That's crazy.

01:46:51.000 Republicans against Democrats.

01:46:52.000 It has to be that way.

01:46:54.000 Jake has more power.

01:46:55.000 No, not Masvidal can crack, dude.

01:46:58.000 Masvidal will get knocked out if he plays this game with Jake.

01:46:59.000 Oh, dude, I don't know, man.

01:47:00.000 Jake can knock him out on left hook, they play this game.

01:47:02.000 Masvidal can crack, dude.

01:47:03.000 He's the first guy to knock out Eve Edwards at MMA. True.

01:47:05.000 He head-kicked Eve Edwards back in... 1.00

01:47:07.000 Jake hits hard.

01:47:08.000 That was back in the Bodog fight.

01:47:11.000 I would have never pegged Masvidal for a Republican.

01:47:14.000 Oh, good left kick to the body. 1.00

01:47:15.000 Oh, right hand!

01:47:17.000 That hurt him.

01:47:18.000 Oh, shit.

01:47:18.000 Oh, Masvidal's fucking him up.

01:47:21.000 Jake's in trouble.

01:47:22.000 Oh, he's in big trouble.

01:47:24.000 Oh, it's over, son.

01:47:25.000 Oh, he's getting deep down.

01:47:27.000 Oh, that's it.

01:47:28.000 Oh, Herb Dean went the ass first.

01:47:30.000 He went ass towards him, hips towards him. 0.97

01:47:31.000 He was going to stop it.

01:47:32.000 The ass was the...

01:47:33.000 Stay down, Jake.

01:47:36.000 That's what he tells him.

01:47:37.000 He goes, when you see my ass...

01:47:38.000 You got this, Jake is tough.

01:47:39.000 You see Jake come back?

01:47:40.000 No, he's not coming back.

01:47:42.000 You don't know.

01:47:43.000 Herb Dean doing a great job, not stopping it.

01:47:46.000 Herb Dean doing a great job not stopping it.

01:47:48.000 Jake is tough as shit.

01:47:49.000 Herb Dean made the ass move.

01:47:52.000 You lean your hips towards the guy.

01:47:54.000 When you see the ass, Masvidal is such a monster.

01:47:58.000 Dude, that shows you how good Herb Dean is.

01:48:00.000 That shows you right there how good Herb Dean is.

01:48:02.000 Look at this.

01:48:03.000 But Masvidal has got him pinned up against the cage.

01:48:06.000 Ellenberg has got to get some space.

01:48:07.000 There you go.

01:48:08.000 There you go.

01:48:08.000 You've got to circle left.

01:48:09.000 Circle left.

01:48:10.000 Don't let him box him back in.

01:48:12.000 Well, Jake still possesses that crazy fast twitch muscle fiber.

01:48:16.000 So if he can connect, he can crack you.

01:48:18.000 Well, the last thing to go is power.

01:48:19.000 And Jake's always had power.

01:48:21.000 But when you get hurt, you always start reaching for that because you know you're not going to play a points game from here on out.

01:48:27.000 No.

01:48:27.000 Because you're diminished.

01:48:28.000 So you've got a few significant rounds in your chamber.

01:48:31.000 It's just a matter of how long it's going to take Jake Ellenberger right now to recover.

01:48:35.000 But here's the thing.

01:48:36.000 If he's been trained with Kurson, I think he has for this fight.

01:48:38.000 I know he has for this fight, as a matter of fact.

01:48:40.000 He's been at Kings too, huh?

01:48:41.000 Training with Nick Kurson is a big thing, man.

01:48:43.000 Nick Kurson, who's that Marv Marinovich disciple, that guy's a wizard, man.

01:48:47.000 He knows a fuckload about strength and conditioning and getting guys ready for fights, both physically and mentally.

01:48:53.000 And I think he helped Ellenberger a lot with giving him the confidence with being in that insane shape to get ready for Matt Brown.

01:49:00.000 There's no coach on the planet that can go, hey, you're going to get fucked up the first minute, and then we can work on that.

01:49:07.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:49:07.000 Yeah.

01:49:08.000 There's no conditioning for that.

01:49:09.000 Right.

01:49:10.000 You're right.

01:49:10.000 There's nothing.

01:49:11.000 That's the X Factor.

01:49:12.000 But it's also like Ellenberger is a real veteran now and he's experienced those disappointing defeats and those super highlight knockouts.

01:49:20.000 Like the Matt Brown fight, like the Jake Shields fight.

01:49:22.000 He's composed after taking that beating.

01:49:24.000 Look at how composed.

01:49:25.000 Ellenberger is super legit.

01:49:29.000 And the best of all, Hillary loves him.

01:49:33.000 Do you know Ellen... 0.66

01:49:34.000 Oh, shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:49:35.000 It's a joke.

01:49:35.000 Do you know that Ellenberger knocked out Pele Landy with one punch?

01:49:39.000 Yes.

01:49:40.000 That was back in the Disney before.

01:49:42.000 In Bellator, right?

01:49:42.000 No, no.

01:49:43.000 I don't think so.

01:49:44.000 I thought it was a Bellator fight night.

01:49:45.000 Is that right?

01:49:45.000 And he took it on short notice.

01:49:46.000 Masvidal is such a good boxer, though.

01:49:48.000 You might be right.

01:49:48.000 Am I right on that, though?

01:49:49.000 You might be right.

01:49:50.000 It was some...

01:49:51.000 Jake Ellenberger.

01:49:52.000 Oh, shit!

01:49:54.000 Masvidal went with the wheel kick.

01:49:55.000 Left kick to the body. 0.98

01:49:56.000 Oh.

01:49:57.000 Oh, Ellenberger slipped.

01:49:59.000 Oh, shake his toe! 0.97

01:50:00.000 He broke his foot!

01:50:01.000 His toe's stuck in the cage!

01:50:02.000 You should let him recover!

01:50:05.000 What happened?

01:50:06.000 I think he broke his foot or ankle in the cage.

01:50:10.000 What do you do at this point?

01:50:13.000 This is hilarious, guys.

01:50:14.000 We're seeing exactly what we saw.

01:50:16.000 Yeah, we are.

01:50:17.000 We're seeing exactly what we're talking about.

01:50:19.000 Brendan's going to say, fuck him!

01:50:20.000 Is this fight stopped?

01:50:22.000 Is this fight stopped?

01:50:23.000 And Joe's going to say, hey, give the guy a little fucking chance!

01:50:28.000 Well, I'm on both of your sides.

01:50:30.000 That's the problem, Eddie.

01:50:31.000 I haven't picked a side.

01:50:32.000 I'm on both of your sides.

01:50:32.000 I didn't say what my side was at this point.

01:50:34.000 Hold on, controversial.

01:50:35.000 I didn't say.

01:50:35.000 But what you did before when we were talking about the finger break.

01:50:38.000 I said, at this point, he was getting fucked up.

01:50:41.000 What did Jorge do?

01:50:42.000 He was getting fucked up.

01:50:43.000 Hey, Jamie, give us some volume.

01:50:44.000 Let's find out what the hell happened here.

01:50:48.000 Here, Ellenberger.

01:50:49.000 Sprints like a psycho.

01:50:50.000 He throws the kick, he slides in.

01:50:52.000 Toe goes BOOM! Oh my god, his foot went right into the cage.

01:50:56.000 I get it.

01:50:56.000 Look, it's stuck.

01:50:58.000 I get it, I get it.

01:50:59.000 It snapped his foot.

01:51:01.000 What do you think now, Brendan?

01:51:02.000 Tell me what you think.

01:51:04.000 If I'm Masvidal, I wail away exactly like he did and win the fight exactly like he did.

01:51:08.000 There's too much riding on it.

01:51:10.000 Dude, you're so fucking mean.

01:51:12.000 Okay, well the fight's over.

01:51:13.000 It is over?

01:51:14.000 The fight is over, yeah.

01:51:15.000 I see that's like a freak.

01:51:16.000 I thought these were your homeboys.

01:51:18.000 This is what I feel like.

01:51:19.000 This is my take on this.

01:51:20.000 This is a great fight, a fun fight that ended with a freak accident.

01:51:24.000 I think Masvidal got in some great shots.

01:51:26.000 Ellenberger looked like he was staying calm.

01:51:28.000 But if you had to go to a decision off of the injury, you had got to give it to Masvidal.

01:51:32.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:51:33.000 Masvidal was putting it to him.

01:51:36.000 Masvidal had him in a lot of trouble.

01:51:37.000 Look at this.

01:51:38.000 Slides in.

01:51:39.000 His toe went right in there and then he snapped it.

01:51:41.000 Oh, man.

01:51:42.000 Oh, no.

01:51:44.000 Oh, he just snapped his toe backwards.

01:51:46.000 Are you going to change your stance now?

01:51:50.000 No, no, no, no.

01:51:51.000 You're so ruthless.

01:51:52.000 As a fan, I hope it goes on.

01:51:54.000 As a fighter, you murk him as fast as you can.

01:51:57.000 Well, hey, guys, let's look at it this way.

01:51:59.000 As people that love the sport, maybe we should redesign the bottom of the cage.

01:52:05.000 Yes.

01:52:06.000 I'm down for that, but it's not his fault.

01:52:09.000 It's not his fault.

01:52:10.000 His foot got caught in the fence.

01:52:12.000 That's not part of the game.

01:52:14.000 It's not part of the game.

01:52:16.000 You move to the left and he fucking slides in and he gets his foot caught.

01:52:20.000 No, he did a flying knee.

01:52:21.000 Let me ask you this, as a person who's fought in the octagon.

01:52:24.000 Is there an argument for extending the lip a little bit?

01:52:26.000 So instead of tucking it in like that, extending it up and putting it in part of the cage, you could only have to go up a few inches and it would remove the problem of the edge.

01:52:35.000 But you wouldn't be able to use that takedown offense of those guys against the cage?

01:52:39.000 You can dig your heels into it.

01:52:41.000 Does that make sense?

01:52:43.000 Well, that's kind of cheap too, isn't it?

01:52:44.000 Look at that body. 0.99

01:52:45.000 That caught him.

01:52:45.000 Well, that would help everybody then.

01:52:47.000 Everyone.

01:52:48.000 Like having a little bit of...

01:52:49.000 Let's talk about that.

01:52:51.000 Having a little bit of fabric, pulled it through and up and connected to the cage.

01:52:56.000 That would be a good thing.

01:52:57.000 See, he slipped in there.

01:52:58.000 Oh my god, it's awful.

01:53:00.000 That's terrible.

01:53:01.000 Get your foot out.

01:53:02.000 Look, he's getting punched in the head and he's still trying to get his foot out.

01:53:05.000 I hope they don't cut him.

01:53:06.000 Give him one more.

01:53:07.000 Give him one more, please.

01:53:09.000 100%, man.

01:53:09.000 He just knocked out Matt Brown that he has this controversial injury.

01:53:13.000 We'll go say 100%.

01:53:14.000 Here's the problem with the controversial injury.

01:53:17.000 Masvidal is the one who got robbed here.

01:53:19.000 Because Masvidal was putting it to him before that.

01:53:21.000 He still gets...

01:53:22.000 He won, though.

01:53:23.000 He won, but still...

01:53:24.000 He'd be robbed if it was a draw.

01:53:25.000 Like, oh, he's injured.

01:53:26.000 Both guys.

01:53:27.000 I feel like both guys...

01:53:28.000 Both are robbed.

01:53:29.000 Got robbed a little bit.

01:53:30.000 I mean, Ellenberger got robbed of a potential for a comeback.

01:53:33.000 Correct.

01:53:33.000 But justice was done because Masvidal, who was winning, and he still gets his win bonus and Jay got you.

01:53:38.000 It's not a happy justice.

01:53:40.000 It's not a justice that makes Whoville cheer and sing.

01:53:42.000 No, not at all.

01:53:43.000 Whoville's not cheering.

01:53:44.000 Whoville's not cheering.

01:53:45.000 There'll be no singing.

01:53:45.000 Nope.

01:53:46.000 Zero.

01:53:47.000 But yeah, I agree with that.

01:53:48.000 I think you're right.

01:53:49.000 When you and Eddie were going at it back and forth, I'm on both of your sides.

01:53:53.000 I'm coming from a fighter.

01:53:55.000 I get it.

01:53:55.000 Finger break.

01:53:56.000 It's a break.

01:53:57.000 It's due to an attack.

01:53:59.000 Look, honestly, any time you feel like you maybe should stop the fight, you should stop the fight.

01:54:05.000 Like almost every time for something like that.

01:54:08.000 Should you let a guy go if he can't see at all out of his right eye?

01:54:11.000 There's 50 seconds left in the round.

01:54:13.000 50 seconds.

01:54:14.000 It's for the title.

01:54:15.000 The guy's the champion.

01:54:16.000 He can't see.

01:54:16.000 He says he's fine.

01:54:17.000 What do you do?

01:54:18.000 Stop it, Brendan.

01:54:19.000 What do you do?

01:54:20.000 It's a good question because sometimes guys go out and they win that fight.

01:54:23.000 Case by case.

01:54:24.000 It's hard, man.

01:54:25.000 It is not easy.

01:54:26.000 It's a tough kick.

01:54:26.000 It's not easy.

01:54:28.000 It's not fucking easy.

01:54:30.000 I'm saying as a fighter and you're in there and you know what the magnitude of that win will do for your career and get you to the next level and your punch guy goes, damn, dawg, you got me in the eye.

01:54:40.000 You're all about the winners.

01:54:41.000 You're like, what?

01:54:42.000 No, no, Eddie.

01:54:44.000 You're a winner.

01:54:45.000 You're a fucking winner.

01:54:47.000 Hey, don't insult him with that comment.

01:54:49.000 You're right.

01:54:50.000 Look, you're right.

01:54:51.000 And that, you know, that might be part of the problem, right?

01:54:54.000 It's like a killer instinct in the man.

01:54:56.000 Las Vidal looks like a different weight class.

01:54:58.000 I know what you're saying.

01:54:58.000 Like, it's not just the ethics of winning or losing.

01:55:01.000 No.

01:55:01.000 Because you're like, God, let me get out of here and get a win and fucking get out.

01:55:03.000 And get that bonus.

01:55:04.000 Yeah.

01:55:05.000 Is that an issue?

01:55:06.000 Is win bonuses or win bonuses an issue?

01:55:09.000 And did they ever exist in boxing before MMA started adopting them?

01:55:13.000 Are they in boxing?

01:55:14.000 I don't think so.

01:55:15.000 I don't even watch boxing.

01:55:16.000 Boxing, that's not true.

01:55:18.000 I don't think so.

01:55:19.000 I don't think they are.

01:55:20.000 No.

01:55:20.000 I think boxers, they fight for a purse.

01:55:22.000 Yes.

01:55:23.000 And it's a flat fee.

01:55:24.000 Typically a flat fee and then you got your pay-per-view bonus.

01:55:27.000 But is there an argument that win bonuses make the fights more exciting?

01:55:32.000 I don't know if you need them.

01:55:33.000 Because people, I mean obviously they're aware of wind bonus, but no one's like, God, I've got to make this a siding and I'm going to go do this because hopefully I get the wind bonus.

01:55:42.000 Here's the real question.

01:55:43.000 Tony Ferguson does.

01:55:44.000 That's his style.

01:55:45.000 That's his style.

01:55:46.000 He does.

01:55:47.000 He goes after it.

01:55:47.000 Hey Eddie, I hate to tell you, whether it was wind bonus or not, he's going to fight like that.

01:55:50.000 That's Tony, that's in his blood.

01:55:53.000 Let me answer this question.

01:55:54.000 He trains like that.

01:55:55.000 He wants to get that money.

01:55:56.000 No, but he trains like that.

01:55:58.000 He's a fucking animal.

01:55:59.000 I've seen him train six hours straight.

01:56:01.000 You know when people say, oh, I train eight hours straight, I train seven hours, and you're like, okay, you're taking all these breaks.

01:56:06.000 I've seen that dude.

01:56:07.000 He was training all goddamn day in Big Bear in altitude.

01:56:12.000 Man.

01:56:13.000 Six hours?

01:56:13.000 Dude, hanging out with Tony Ferguson and Big Bear.

01:56:17.000 Made me feel like a fucking little mouse.

01:56:20.000 He's fighting Khabib next, yeah? 0.99

01:56:22.000 You know what I mean?

01:56:22.000 You know he's fighting Khabib next.

01:56:24.000 I'm like, holy shit.

01:56:25.000 Not only...

01:56:25.000 You know he's fighting Khabib next.

01:56:27.000 Where is it?

01:56:28.000 They thought it was going to be in Anaheim, but they were like, ah, we're good in Anaheim.

01:56:32.000 Remember, they pulled the pay-per-view from Anaheim?

01:56:35.000 Is it pulled?

01:56:35.000 100%?

01:56:36.000 Yes, they canceled Anaheim.

01:56:37.000 When did it get cancelled?

01:56:38.000 Today?

01:56:38.000 Two days ago.

01:56:39.000 So is that official?

01:56:40.000 Tony and Khabib?

01:56:41.000 It was supposed to be on the Anaheim card, from my understanding.

01:56:44.000 I thought that was like a hoax.

01:56:46.000 But that's the fight.

01:56:47.000 But that's the fight?

01:56:47.000 Yeah, that's the fight.

01:56:49.000 That's the fight.

01:56:49.000 It's either going to be that or Conor.

01:56:51.000 What a fight that's going to be.

01:56:53.000 Well, Conor wants to take some time off.

01:56:55.000 He's about to have his first child.

01:56:56.000 Totally get it.

01:56:57.000 Conor's fight is with WMU and Ari Emanuel.

01:56:59.000 It's not with Tony Ferguson.

01:57:00.000 You keep saying that, and it sounds like a goddamn mantra.

01:57:03.000 It's like, Donald Trump, KKK. How good is that fight going to be?

01:57:07.000 Khabib and Tony?

01:57:08.000 Conor McGregor's real fight is with Ari Emanuel.

01:57:10.000 Because it's true, Joe.

01:57:12.000 Put it on a placard.

01:57:13.000 It's true, though. 0.82

01:57:14.000 Whoa, Dan's got a dime piece for a wife. 1.00

01:57:17.000 Are you in the negotiation room?

01:57:19.000 Maybe they're in a good place.

01:57:20.000 Who's his girl?

01:57:21.000 Well, even if they're in a good place, that's the fight.

01:57:23.000 You're a little bit of a gossiper.

01:57:24.000 You like it.

01:57:25.000 You enjoy it.

01:57:26.000 A little bit.

01:57:27.000 A little bit.

01:57:28.000 A little bit.

01:57:29.000 A little bit.

01:57:31.000 Hey, but is it not true?

01:57:33.000 Robert De Niro?

01:57:34.000 Is that Robert De Niro?

01:57:35.000 Where does that come from?

01:57:36.000 Yeah, that's Robert De Niro.

01:57:37.000 Good fellas.

01:57:38.000 A little bit.

01:57:40.000 A little bit.

01:57:41.000 A little bit.

01:57:43.000 Go get your shine box.

01:57:49.000 Go get your fucking shine box.

01:57:51.000 That's a great scene.

01:57:52.000 Stabs him in the neck of the pen.

01:57:54.000 It's a great scene.

01:57:55.000 A little bit.

01:57:56.000 So, yeah.

01:57:57.000 But I'm not wrong, because when Conor goes, and I also have some inside info, but when Conor goes, I need a portion of the company now.

01:58:05.000 I'm not fine if you give me that.

01:58:07.000 Who's his battle with?

01:58:08.000 Tony Ferguson?

01:58:09.000 It could be.

01:58:09.000 They have no ownership of that.

01:58:11.000 They don't have control of that at all.

01:58:12.000 Well, here's why it's foolish to get a portion of the company.

01:58:16.000 Because he, by very nature of his dynamic being and presence, makes the pay-per-views that he's on spectacular.

01:58:25.000 He doesn't elevate the other pay-per-views.

01:58:28.000 So when he's there, is he saying, should he get a percentage of the pay-per-views?

01:58:32.000 Absolutely.

01:58:33.000 He does.

01:58:34.000 Should he get a percentage of the company?

01:58:36.000 You would have to prove that you're making the company bigger.

01:58:39.000 No, you're not.

01:58:40.000 You're making yourself bigger, and he is, in my opinion, the most famous, but the fights that he draws for, he will get compensated for in an extraordinary manner.

01:58:52.000 Not yet.

01:58:53.000 The idea of him being an owner of the entire company based on what he's able to do in his own individual pay-per-views, that would be foolhardy.

01:59:04.000 But what about marketing?

01:59:05.000 I'm obviously not.

01:59:15.000 Listen to me right now.

01:59:18.000 Why did Anaheim get pulled?

01:59:20.000 Because he didn't have a fucking title fight.

01:59:21.000 What does that mean?

01:59:22.000 That the UFC without gigantic stars like Conor McGregor or Ronda Rousey or Jon Jones or Pettison Holloway, without the killers, nobody wants to watch.

01:59:32.000 Correct.

01:59:32.000 True.

01:59:33.000 Correct.

01:59:33.000 That's what's up.

01:59:34.000 You don't want to pay for pay-per-view.

01:59:37.000 Superstars make the company.

01:59:39.000 Yeah, you can have some fights that are pay-per-view fights.

01:59:42.000 You can have some fights that are pay-per-view fights without world champions on it.

01:59:46.000 It is totally possible.

01:59:48.000 If you had a bunch of cowboy, Matt Brown-type fights on, and just a bunch of them, and none of them for the world title, you tell me you wouldn't watch?

01:59:55.000 You tell me you wouldn't watch Yoel Romero vs.

01:59:59.000 Luke Rockhold.

02:00:00.000 Not a draw.

02:00:01.000 I don't give a fuck!

02:00:02.000 I'm not talking to you, you goddamn communists!

02:00:05.000 Would you?

02:00:07.000 Or would you?

02:00:08.000 No, it's all socialism!

02:00:09.000 He's in unions and shit!

02:00:10.000 The guy admitted he's in the fucking union before the show!

02:00:14.000 He's a left-wing!

02:00:15.000 He's a left-winger!

02:00:17.000 Black helicopters!

02:00:19.000 Black helicopters!

02:00:20.000 Goddamn black helicopters!

02:00:21.000 And he knows what's up!

02:00:23.000 Infowars, baby.

02:00:24.000 Oh, Jordan Meehan vs.

02:00:26.000 Emile Meek.

02:00:26.000 That's a good fucking fight, man.

02:00:28.000 That's a fun fight.

02:00:28.000 Tim Kennedy, Kelvin.

02:00:30.000 Jordan Meehan on Cyborg, the male Cyborg, in Strike Force, landed one of the most devastating fucking elbow combinations to put out Cyborg.

02:00:40.000 And Emile Meek is the guy who beat up Toquino.

02:00:43.000 He knocked out Toquino when he first got kicked out of the UFC. When Jusmar Pojarez got kicked out of the UFC, he fought this mad Viking, Emil Meek.

02:00:52.000 He beat the fuck out of him.

02:00:53.000 He KO'd him in the first round.

02:00:55.000 What's Takino doing?

02:00:56.000 He keeps getting KO'd.

02:00:57.000 He keeps getting KO'd.

02:00:59.000 But is he ripping bitches' legs off in jiu-jitsu? 1.00

02:01:01.000 He fought Gary Tonin in a straight-up jiu-jitsu match.

02:01:05.000 It went to a draw, but Gary Tonin was dominating.

02:01:08.000 Gary Tonin was attacking him way more than he was attacking him.

02:01:11.000 Dude, do you remember how scary Takino was?

02:01:12.000 Yeah, but here's the thing, Gary Tonin is maybe 30 pounds lighter than him.

02:01:16.000 No bullshit.

02:01:17.000 Gary Tonin is best in the world.

02:01:18.000 I'm just saying, as far as MMA, remember when Tokino was, when it was Paul Ahari's?

02:01:23.000 Motherfuckers were terrified.

02:01:25.000 You know why I was fascinated about that fight?

02:01:28.000 It was not just that Gary Tonin is a motherfucker, but that John Donaher and I had this conversation about the entrances.

02:01:34.000 That Toquino uses.

02:01:37.000 The entrances.

02:01:38.000 How he establishes the entrance into his techniques.

02:01:41.000 He has some pretty obvious entrances.

02:01:44.000 He's kind of basic in the way he approaches leg locks.

02:01:47.000 His take was that they would always be one step ahead of him and eventually the strength would run out.

02:01:55.000 You can see it coming so you can stop it.

02:01:58.000 That's how high level and sophisticated that whole Eddie Cummings Henzo's?

02:02:03.000 Well, John Donahue is a big part of it.

02:02:06.000 But there's also a ton of guys.

02:02:08.000 Dean Lister contributed to that in a big way because he came over there.

02:02:12.000 There's a lot of leg-locked knowledge that came out of there.

02:02:14.000 But even so, Gio still won EBI last night.

02:02:22.000 I like the way you brought that down.

02:02:25.000 You did bring it back.

02:02:29.000 Eddie Cummings is the most feared leglocker of all time.

02:02:35.000 Eddie Cummings is the most feared.

02:02:38.000 I think he's the best leglocker.

02:02:40.000 I call him Eddie Leglock Cummings.

02:02:42.000 Well, I do.

02:02:43.000 You should probably stop talking.

02:02:45.000 Well, you guys can shut up.

02:02:46.000 Just for a moment.

02:02:46.000 I'll wrap it up.

02:02:47.000 I'll bring it back.

02:02:49.000 Keep going.

02:02:49.000 Who's winning this fight?

02:02:50.000 Anybody have any idea?

02:02:52.000 I don't even know what fight it is.

02:02:54.000 It's Cejudo Benavides coming up.

02:02:56.000 Sorry, go ahead, Eddie.

02:02:57.000 I've reffed most of Eddie Cummings' fights in EBI, and just me as just the jiu-jitsu guy, watching him right there on top of it.

02:03:07.000 I can't fucking believe it, man.

02:03:09.000 Eddie Cummings is just mowing through fucking everybody.

02:03:13.000 The whole Danaher crew, Gary Tonin, Gordon Ryan, they're fucking everybody up with those leg locks.

02:03:19.000 Man, they got a super sophisticated, highly complex leg lock system and, you know, once EBI came out, that's when it was exposed.

02:03:32.000 And me as a teacher, I thought, fuck, I thought I was already leg lock friendly enough.

02:03:40.000 I had a bunch of leg lock wizards all over the association. 0.99

02:03:44.000 They were everywhere.

02:03:45.000 I thought, I'm totally open to leg locks.

02:03:47.000 Me personally, I'm not heavy into heel hooks, but man, I love the fact that every class I have like three heel hook fucking just dudes that are obsessed with it.

02:03:57.000 But that wasn't enough.

02:03:58.000 Once EBI came out, I'm like, that wasn't enough.

02:04:02.000 Look with these guys.

02:04:03.000 When you obsess with leg locks in the system and every possibility and every counter, and the way Dana Hurst put that system together, man, I realized right away, I gotta get fucking mid-Evo with this shit.

02:04:17.000 So we did over the last couple years.

02:04:21.000 Do you feel like you're competing a little bit with John or anybody?

02:04:24.000 100%.

02:04:25.000 I love that.

02:04:26.000 100%.

02:04:26.000 So there's an IBJJF crew, you know, like the people, the fans and the competitors.

02:04:35.000 There's the Danaher crew, and they're like Conor McGregor, you know, because Gordon Ryan's kind of outspoken, and, you know, he's like wearing a crown everywhere he goes, and Gary Tonin, he's like...

02:04:48.000 They were all super cool, man.

02:04:50.000 And then Eddie Cummings was like the coolest motherfucker ever.

02:04:53.000 They're very smart guys.

02:04:54.000 Eddie Cummings is like an astrophysicist, cool ass dude.

02:05:01.000 All those guys are awesome, man.

02:05:03.000 And what Danaher's done with that leg lock system, dude, he just so...

02:05:07.000 He took what Dean Lister showed him.

02:05:10.000 Dean Lister came down in the late 90s at Henzo School and dropped some heel hook knowledge on Danaher.

02:05:16.000 And Danaher just systemized that shit, blew it the fuck up. 1.00

02:05:19.000 And if you're not paying attention to the jiu-jitsu world and the sub-only movement, the Danaher death squad, Eddie Cummings...

02:05:28.000 Gordon Ryan, Gary Tonin, and even Gordon Ryan's brother, Nicky Ryan, they got this leg lock system that no one can fuck with.

02:05:38.000 They're mowing through everybody.

02:05:40.000 Artistry.

02:05:41.000 It's mowing through everybody.

02:05:42.000 That's like real artistry.

02:05:45.000 When did you feel like...

02:05:47.000 At what point when you were rolling jiu-jitsu did you feel like it became more art than sport in that you were improvising as you went along, in that everything was a reaction, everything was sort of predicated by your mindset, your mood of that day,

02:06:05.000 what that person was doing?

02:06:06.000 It had nothing to do with the mood of the day that I could tell.

02:06:08.000 It had to do with reactions?

02:06:09.000 It just had to do with how many times can you do a movement and train your body.

02:06:14.000 Your body, whatever you do.

02:06:17.000 Whether it's jiu-jitsu, tennis, basketball, whatever you do, if you do it over and over and over again, if you're working in a factory and you got a job or you're doing something, the more you do it, whatever it is, putting this contraption here, you're going to be so fucking good at it,

02:06:33.000 bam! 0.98

02:06:33.000 Your body will master anything you tell it to do a thousand times. 0.98

02:06:39.000 So it becomes a language you're fluent in that you know physically, that you know...

02:06:46.000 It's like any piano, guitar, building fucking blocks, factory working, whatever.

02:06:54.000 It's all about numbers.

02:06:56.000 It's just practice makes perfect.

02:06:58.000 The more you do it, your body will end up doing it magically, and you'd have to just kind of executive produce things, and your body just does it magically.

02:07:08.000 Tying your shoes.

02:07:10.000 Like playing violin.

02:07:11.000 When you're shredding on violin or piano or whatever...

02:07:14.000 Can you type, Brian?

02:07:15.000 Or type?

02:07:16.000 That shit, typing.

02:07:18.000 When you type, you're just sort of thinking.

02:07:20.000 Like now, I've been typing for so many years.

02:07:22.000 I'm not perfect at it.

02:07:23.000 I fuck up.

02:07:24.000 But when I type, when I'm in the groove, I'm just looking at the screen and thinking.

02:07:28.000 And then the words just start, my fingers start moving.

02:07:30.000 It's weird you say that because I was typing and my father said, Jesus Christ, you type fast.

02:07:36.000 And it didn't even dawn on me.

02:07:37.000 I was like, huh?

02:07:38.000 Well, that's what Dan Hurst done with the leg locks.

02:07:40.000 That's what they've done.

02:07:41.000 They've gotten a system down and they understand practice makes perfect.

02:07:47.000 Right.

02:07:47.000 And they understand that...

02:07:49.000 Perfect practice makes perfect, right?

02:07:51.000 Exactly.

02:07:52.000 That's even better.

02:07:52.000 Yeah.

02:07:53.000 No, I love that about life.

02:07:55.000 I love that about the idea that you can master something that you do.

02:07:58.000 Well, you definitely can.

02:07:59.000 Yeah.

02:07:59.000 You know, I mean, you get better at anything you put your time to.

02:08:02.000 Even if you don't get perfect, it's so worthwhile endeavoring down that road.

02:08:06.000 That's what you get.

02:08:07.000 The reaching for it is the whole lesson, right?

02:08:10.000 Yeah, you'll have milestones.

02:08:11.000 Yes.

02:08:12.000 But through those milestones, the most important thing is you're just enjoying the process.

02:08:16.000 And then one day you wake up and you realize, whoa, look what I could do.

02:08:20.000 Are you always learning with jiu-jitsu or do you feel like you're kind of over it all day?

02:08:24.000 No, man.

02:08:24.000 Oh my god.

02:08:25.000 Everybody learns forever.

02:08:26.000 What we're talking about right now, what Danaher has done with the leg lock system and what they've done with EBI just completely dominate.

02:08:32.000 That, bringing it back, the Gio Martinez win last night, he beat Eddie Cummings in the finals at EBI 10 last night.

02:08:40.000 I was just in Mexico City.

02:08:42.000 It was fucking nuts this morning.

02:08:43.000 When did you get back, Eddie?

02:08:44.000 This morning?

02:08:45.000 Damn.

02:08:46.000 Jet lag or no?

02:08:52.000 We're about to get turned up in Austin this weekend, me and you, buddy.

02:08:55.000 People think we hate each other, but we're commentating together.

02:08:59.000 People are just silly.

02:09:02.000 You know what?

02:09:03.000 This conversation that happened at the beginning of this podcast when everybody went crazy, we're like the best friends.

02:09:08.000 We're just two of them.

02:09:08.000 I don't feel bad about it.

02:09:09.000 You guys don't feel bad about it.

02:09:11.000 I'm a little hurt.

02:09:12.000 Actually, do you know what I thought?

02:09:13.000 But here's that thing, man.

02:09:15.000 It's that thing that people have to understand.

02:09:17.000 You're allowed to disagree about shit and still be cool.

02:09:20.000 You could be both.

02:09:21.000 Well, not only that...

02:09:22.000 But you don't have to disagree with something and go, because you're a fucking retard. 1.00

02:09:25.000 That's why.

02:09:26.000 Because you're a fucking douchebag. 0.79

02:09:28.000 The way I look at it is, Eddie wants to solve a problem, and Eddie...

02:09:31.000 Don't let's not get specific, because we're going to go deep into the rabbit hole.

02:09:35.000 I'm not doing that.

02:09:37.000 I'm not doing that.

02:09:39.000 I'm exhausted.

02:09:40.000 I'm not talking about that.

02:09:41.000 No, I'm not doing that.

02:09:42.000 Hold on, listen.

02:09:43.000 Everyone listen.

02:09:44.000 What I'm saying is that when somebody's passionate and cares about the world and wants the world to be a better place like he does, that's where it's coming from.

02:09:51.000 We're all on the same team.

02:09:52.000 That's where, yeah.

02:09:53.000 So when you know that, when you know that he's genuinely a good person through his fucking core, which I know that about him, like...

02:09:59.000 We just have a different point of view.

02:10:01.000 I've texted Eddie about my kids.

02:10:03.000 There's no way I'm going to look at Eddie as, like, I can't do that.

02:10:06.000 What have I said to you privately?

02:10:08.000 The bottom line is, this is the bottom line, is I think they are fucking us.

02:10:15.000 Right.

02:10:16.000 Oh, it's them.

02:10:17.000 That's what I think.

02:10:17.000 It's they are fucking us.

02:10:19.000 And you mean everyone, everyone's all the best.

02:10:21.000 That's like Jack and Jill shit.

02:10:22.000 You know what I mean?

02:10:23.000 God damn it.

02:10:24.000 Told you what you were getting into.

02:10:25.000 You fucked up.

02:10:25.000 We were just trying to get out.

02:10:26.000 Listen, man, I've known him more than you've known him.

02:10:30.000 You don't know fucking him, but I know him better than you know him.

02:10:33.000 I don't think you're fucking me.

02:10:35.000 So if I thought you were fucking me, I would hate you.

02:10:37.000 Let me tell you something.

02:10:39.000 I'm trying to convince you.

02:10:40.000 Brian Callen, how many times?

02:10:42.000 You're trying to get me on your side.

02:10:43.000 Brian Callen, how many times you trained with Eddie Bravo?

02:10:46.000 Zero.

02:10:47.000 You guys don't know?

02:10:48.000 He has an underground school, motherfucker.

02:10:50.000 Maybe I know him better than you, and I was trying to lead you out of the dark lands.

02:10:54.000 I take his online jiu-jitsu class, which is secret, double secret.

02:10:57.000 Eddie Bravo, how many times I trained with you?

02:10:59.000 Can you even put a number to it?

02:11:00.000 Ask Eddie.

02:11:00.000 Eddie, am I right on this?

02:11:02.000 They're fucking him.

02:11:04.000 No, dude.

02:11:05.000 Eddie gives me private fucking underground cyber jiu-jitsu lessons.

02:11:10.000 Them are fucking him. 0.64

02:11:12.000 When do you start working for Fox News?

02:11:14.000 God!

02:11:16.000 You'd make a great journalist.

02:11:18.000 You're out of line!

02:11:19.000 You're fucking out of line!

02:11:20.000 That would be amazing.

02:11:23.000 CNN is out there.

02:11:25.000 Hire this dude.

02:11:27.000 This guy would fucking be your soldier.

02:11:29.000 He'd be right there in Tel Aviv just laying it down.

02:11:32.000 I have a message for Donald Trump.

02:11:34.000 Donald, while you're in office, I want you to abandon the Republican Party and join the freak party.

02:11:39.000 There you go.

02:11:39.000 We will let you do whatever you want.

02:11:41.000 Be whoever you are.

02:11:42.000 Let's just try to be nice to each other.

02:11:44.000 Let's cut the shit.

02:11:45.000 Get loose, man.

02:11:46.000 Just cut loose, man.

02:11:47.000 Hey, if they offered you $100,000 a year, Brian Callen would you take it?

02:11:50.000 He's on it.

02:11:51.000 I'm telling you.

02:11:51.000 $100,000 a year.

02:11:52.000 They're paying him.

02:11:53.000 They're writing the pilot as we speak.

02:11:55.000 They're paying him.

02:11:56.000 Brendan's brother, one of my favorite people in the world, is sending me all kinds of articles on how fake the pizza gate is.

02:12:02.000 Hey, listen, let's not talk about Pizzagate, you fucker!

02:12:07.000 I told you I know him!

02:12:09.000 Listen, a guy who gets really good at killing people, like jujitsu style, gets really good at playing games, gets really good at arguments, he doesn't want to get involved.

02:12:18.000 He's a killer.

02:12:18.000 He gave you an out, and you want to keep going, and you're like the little pesky fucker.

02:12:22.000 All I'm saying is, before the night's over, I need to know what Pizzagate is.

02:12:28.000 Not doing this!

02:12:31.000 No!

02:12:32.000 Off camera.

02:12:34.000 Pizzagate.

02:12:35.000 Pizzagate.

02:12:36.000 Off camera.

02:12:37.000 Hashtag Pizzagate.

02:12:38.000 And listen, you don't want to know.

02:12:39.000 Trust me.

02:12:40.000 You don't want to know.

02:12:41.000 This is murder shit.

02:12:43.000 You'll get murdered if you talk about this shit.

02:12:44.000 This is an amazing fight coming up.

02:12:46.000 Yes, absolutely.

02:12:47.000 I'm trying to get murdered.

02:12:49.000 You know what I thought?

02:12:49.000 I thought, you know what?

02:12:50.000 I think the meaning of life is...

02:12:52.000 The meaning of life is...

02:12:55.000 There's fucking scumbags everywhere.

02:12:57.000 Try to maneuver around them and try to keep your family.

02:13:00.000 But you can't.

02:13:00.000 You can't stop all the scumbags.

02:13:02.000 You can't keep thinking about things.

02:13:03.000 Just think about MMA. Pizzagate is Mark Henry.

02:13:05.000 Pizzagate's a fucking pizza place.

02:13:07.000 I'm gonna end it with if you watch Conspiracy of Silence on YouTube before you get into Pizzagate.

02:13:18.000 First the Conspiracy of Silence, then get into Pizzagate and it all makes sense.

02:13:22.000 Okay.

02:13:23.000 Fights.

02:13:23.000 But that's it done.

02:13:24.000 I like it.

02:13:26.000 Benavidez Cejudo.

02:13:27.000 Amazing fight.

02:13:27.000 Two Mexicans.

02:13:28.000 Oh shit.

02:13:28.000 Brown on Brown.

02:13:29.000 They talked a lot of shit.

02:13:31.000 Talked a lot of shit.

02:13:31.000 Give me some volume, Jamie.

02:13:33.000 I work for the company.

02:13:34.000 A lot of shit.

02:13:34.000 I can get us brought back to YouTube.

02:13:36.000 Give me some volume.

02:13:36.000 I want to hear what's going on, man.

02:13:38.000 Here we go.

02:13:39.000 My prediction?

02:13:40.000 Benavidez wins decision.

02:13:41.000 Give me a little more, Jamie.

02:13:42.000 Two short killers. 0.99

02:13:42.000 Short killers right here. 0.99

02:13:44.000 Here we go.

02:13:45.000 Henry's a bad motherfucker.

02:13:46.000 This is a good fight.

02:13:47.000 You want to bet, Eddie?

02:13:48.000 Quick! 1.00

02:13:48.000 We want to bet? 1.00

02:13:49.000 A thousand dollars.

02:13:50.000 I got Joey Benavides.

02:13:52.000 I got Joey Benavides, too.

02:13:54.000 I got 100%.

02:13:54.000 I have Joey Benavides.

02:13:55.000 Jesus Christ.

02:13:56.000 Oh! 0.60

02:13:56.000 Jesus Christ. 0.60

02:13:57.000 They are fucking swinging.

02:13:59.000 You're Eddie Bravo.

02:14:01.000 Alright, how about dinner in Austin, for God's sakes?

02:14:04.000 Oh my God.

02:14:05.000 Oh! 0.60

02:14:05.000 So who don't crack it? 0.60

02:14:06.000 Well, not now.

02:14:07.000 Oh! 0.60

02:14:07.000 Oh, not now. 0.60

02:14:08.000 Oh! 0.60

02:14:09.000 No, I'm down.

02:14:10.000 I'm down.

02:14:10.000 Dinner?

02:14:10.000 No, no, forget it now.

02:14:12.000 No, no, listen, boys.

02:14:13.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:14:14.000 Boys, please bet.

02:14:15.000 No.

02:14:15.000 Can I bet for somebody?

02:14:17.000 Yes.

02:14:17.000 You're betting for Andy.

02:14:18.000 What do you want, Joe?

02:14:19.000 Oh, look at that.

02:14:20.000 Now you want to bet?

02:14:21.000 Now you want to bet?

02:14:22.000 I want Andy to bet.

02:14:22.000 I got Henry.

02:14:24.000 I got Henry.

02:14:25.000 I'm just his backer.

02:14:27.000 I'm just his backer.

02:14:29.000 Okay, we're in.

02:14:29.000 We're in.

02:14:31.000 We got action.

02:14:32.000 Fuck yeah.

02:14:33.000 I just want everyone to know that I'm not betting on anybody, that I'm merely a backer for my friend.

02:14:39.000 Brennan, why do you have so much confidence in Eddie?

02:14:41.000 Henry's a friend of mine, so of course I'm going to go for him, man.

02:14:44.000 Sehudo's a friend of yours?

02:14:45.000 Because Joe's a friend of mine.

02:14:47.000 Well, Joe Benavidez is a friend of mine as well.

02:14:49.000 I love Sehudo.

02:14:50.000 Oh, nut kick.

02:14:52.000 Hey, that's some honor right there.

02:14:54.000 Respect to that, right?

02:14:55.000 Nut kick's different.

02:14:57.000 But he understood the nut kick.

02:14:58.000 You're right, it's illegal, right?

02:15:00.000 Punches to the finger, not illegal.

02:15:01.000 Yes.

02:15:01.000 But he recognized it.

02:15:02.000 Correct.

02:15:03.000 Nut kick's a little different.

02:15:04.000 That's a respect thing, man.

02:15:06.000 That's a bad thing when you see a guy know he kicked a dude in the nuts and then go after him.

02:15:10.000 Oh my god.

02:15:11.000 That's dead on.

02:15:12.000 That's a little bit, I'm gonna be honest, a little bit more taint than balls.

02:15:16.000 Still hurts, though.

02:15:17.000 Still stinks.

02:15:17.000 That was a day.

02:15:18.000 Still stinks.

02:15:19.000 For sure.

02:15:20.000 I think it's the bottom of that sack.

02:15:21.000 I'm not an apologist.

02:15:23.000 I'm not an ableist.

02:15:24.000 I'm not a nut-shot ableist.

02:15:26.000 Now, Eve Levine will let you get your ass whooped now. 1.00

02:15:29.000 He's been known to let it go a little long.

02:15:31.000 Well, he's no Steve Mazzagatti, but yeah, he'll let you tap for a little bit.

02:15:35.000 Mazzagatti's horrifying.

02:15:37.000 I love Mazzagatti.

02:15:38.000 Mazzagatti's my favorite.

02:15:40.000 I love Mazzagatti.

02:15:42.000 Mazzagatti fights?

02:15:44.000 I'm joking.

02:15:44.000 Tell me when Mazzagatti's reffing.

02:15:46.000 I love you, buddy.

02:15:48.000 Mazzagatti, let anything happen.

02:15:50.000 Hey, Mazzagatti's fucking reffing.

02:15:52.000 Text me.

02:15:52.000 I'll fucking watch it anyway.

02:15:53.000 Horace was digging his fingers into Jake Shield's eyes and Mazzagatti just sat there.

02:15:59.000 All the best highlights are Mazzagotti fights.

02:16:01.000 You ever notice that?

02:16:02.000 Yeah.

02:16:02.000 Well, how about when Mazzagotti was reffing Brock Lesnar versus Frank Mir and Frank Mir almost separated his hips from his legs.

02:16:10.000 Tapping like, Tammy, hit him in the dick again. 0.68

02:16:12.000 You gotta take a point.

02:16:13.000 You gotta take a point.

02:16:14.000 Eve's a no-nonsense.

02:16:16.000 All bullshit aside, joking around, I love Eve. 0.98

02:16:18.000 He's a no-nonsense guy.

02:16:20.000 If he thinks that that is two in a row, he will take a point.

02:16:23.000 And here's the argument, right?

02:16:24.000 If it was unintentional, should you take a point?

02:16:27.000 Well, here's the problem.

02:16:29.000 The damage done to Benavidez is legit as far as it diminishes him.

02:16:34.000 So that is worth more than a point on his potential performance.

02:16:39.000 Same with an eye poke.

02:16:41.000 Eye poke's even worse.

02:16:42.000 I think eye poke right away should be a point taken away.

02:16:44.000 I think you're 100% correct.

02:16:46.000 It changes the magnitude of the fight.

02:16:47.000 I agree with him 100%.

02:16:49.000 Eddie Bravo thinks that Brian Callen is a bar.

02:16:53.000 He's gotten so drunk, he's just holding his glass out.

02:16:56.000 To Brian Cowen, who's not even looking at him.

02:16:58.000 Brendan Schaub, who's a loving man.

02:17:01.000 You got a point, you got a point.

02:17:02.000 Hey, Brendan's like, he does my dog right there.

02:17:04.000 Okay, that's a little too much for a driver.

02:17:08.000 Hey man, you can't throw those kicks like that.

02:17:11.000 You can't.

02:17:11.000 If you're not disciplined enough, you can't throw the kicks.

02:17:13.000 Well no, they're moving targets, sir.

02:17:16.000 This ain't Taekwondo in 10th grade.

02:17:18.000 I just say stuff, okay?

02:17:19.000 Those kids moved a little too.

02:17:25.000 I'm just picturing guys named Chad with no fucking facial hair.

02:17:31.000 Bouncing around, switches stances with no fucking plan.

02:17:38.000 Random colored belts.

02:17:40.000 This fight is awesome, by the way.

02:17:41.000 So who knows walking him down, man?

02:17:43.000 So who knows pissed because his last fight obviously was Demetrius Johnson got annihilated.

02:17:46.000 He's also probably pissed because he's lost one point already in his first round.

02:17:51.000 So he's got to win significantly.

02:17:53.000 This round will be a draw because if he loses one point, he's been winning the whole fight.

02:17:57.000 Unless Benavidez does something strong in which he'll win it.

02:18:01.000 Oh, crap.

02:18:02.000 But you know what, man?

02:18:03.000 Sometimes when people take a point away, they automatically say, well, that guy is losing the fight now.

02:18:08.000 It's almost like a psychological thing.

02:18:09.000 The judges are tough, man.

02:18:11.000 Some of them are not good.

02:18:13.000 Some of them are definitely not good.

02:18:17.000 Let me ask you this.

02:18:18.000 What did you think of the Tyron Woodley Wonderboy fight?

02:18:21.000 Have you watched that fight since then?

02:18:22.000 I called it a draw, sir.

02:18:24.000 I think you're right.

02:18:25.000 I think you're right.

02:18:26.000 Hey, Brian, what'd I say to you?

02:18:26.000 Before they came out with the- But here's my thinking.

02:18:30.000 I think it's only a draw because we look at fights wrong.

02:18:34.000 I think Woodley won because he did way more damage.

02:18:38.000 Way more damage.

02:18:38.000 Knocked them down.

02:18:39.000 Ended the fight.

02:18:40.000 How about that guillotine?

02:18:41.000 And he had moments of total dominance, like that first round when he got on top of him.

02:18:45.000 There was never a point where Wonderboy was running the fight.

02:18:47.000 Never.

02:18:47.000 So there should be a point aspect to that.

02:18:50.000 I agree with you.

02:18:51.000 You're right.

02:18:52.000 You're right.

02:18:53.000 There's moments where maybe you land a jab, and he lands a leg kick, and what's better and what's worse?

02:18:59.000 And there's a debatable moment.

02:19:00.000 But when Woodley took him down and beat him up in the first round and smashed his nose open, that was a significant advantage.

02:19:06.000 What about the guillotine, son?

02:19:06.000 And the guillotine.

02:19:07.000 That was nasty.

02:19:07.000 And how about the punches that led to the guillotine that had him hurt?

02:19:10.000 You almost had him finished.

02:19:11.000 I thought he made a mistake going for the guillotine.

02:19:13.000 He probably did.

02:19:14.000 But who knows, man.

02:19:16.000 Yeah, you're probably right.

02:19:17.000 Let's watch this fight, you fucks. 1.00

02:19:19.000 No, but to Joe's point, he's right.

02:19:21.000 You're right.

02:19:23.000 Woodley won the fight. 0.89

02:19:25.000 Like, in fight aspects, he won the fights.

02:19:27.000 You guys just heard about some shit that happened two weeks ago.

02:19:29.000 Eddie's right.

02:19:30.000 Eddie's right.

02:19:31.000 You're both right.

02:19:32.000 Brian Callen and Eddie Brown were the voice of reason.

02:19:33.000 Who would have fucking ever thought that?

02:19:34.000 Exactly.

02:19:35.000 These guys are 115 pounds.

02:19:36.000 They weigh in at 125. They really weigh 130. They're amazing.

02:19:42.000 They're the best.

02:19:43.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:19:44.000 Joe, I mean, Brendan, goddammit.

02:19:46.000 You fucking giant.

02:19:47.000 Are they Nazis?

02:19:48.000 You have giant privilege.

02:19:51.000 The viewers would agree with me.

02:19:53.000 The ratings make the difference.

02:19:55.000 You have white privilege, male privilege, and giant privilege.

02:19:57.000 You're a disgusting human being.

02:20:01.000 He's never had any bad varsity blues.

02:20:04.000 You have white privilege.

02:20:05.000 You have big dick privilege. 0.98

02:20:09.000 You have podcaster privilege.

02:20:11.000 He's got it all.

02:20:12.000 You're ridiculous.

02:20:13.000 Son of a bitch. 0.88

02:20:13.000 And you have giant privilege. 0.88

02:20:15.000 You're ridiculous.

02:20:15.000 He was on a marquee at the Laugh Factory with his son of a bitch.

02:20:17.000 He's like, hey, guys, thanks for all your ten years.

02:20:20.000 Move out of the way. 0.80

02:20:20.000 Son of a bitch. 0.80

02:20:21.000 Fucker. 1.00

02:20:22.000 There's going to be that one night, Brian, where you can't follow him.

02:20:25.000 I know.

02:20:25.000 You're going to go, you son of a bitch.

02:20:26.000 I know.

02:20:27.000 He's figured out how to be funnier than me, you son of a bitch.

02:20:29.000 Bigger, stronger, funnier.

02:20:30.000 With your fat garden hose dangling out of the inside of your jeans.

02:20:34.000 Yeah.

02:20:35.000 What the fuck is that?

02:20:36.000 How about you tuck that thing in?

02:20:37.000 Tuck that bad boy in.

02:20:38.000 How about you hide it from the children?

02:20:41.000 What's wrong with your friends, Jamie?

02:20:42.000 Put it away.

02:20:43.000 God damn it.

02:20:44.000 Put the sock away.

02:20:45.000 Did you guys see the Roadrunner kill the rattlesnake?

02:20:48.000 I've shown everybody on my podcast this week.

02:20:50.000 No, I haven't seen it.

02:20:51.000 Roadrunners fucking kill and eat rattlesnakes. 1.00

02:20:54.000 Fuck.

02:20:54.000 Would you look at a roadrunner?

02:20:55.000 You're talking about the bird?

02:20:56.000 The little tiny bird?

02:20:57.000 You look at a roadrunner and a rattlesnake, you would say, well, for sure the rattlesnakes are eating the roadrunners.

02:21:02.000 Yeah.

02:21:04.000 Roadrunners eat...

02:21:04.000 Watch this.

02:21:05.000 I would say the roadrunner runs from the rattlesnake.

02:21:07.000 Look at this.

02:21:08.000 Incorrect.

02:21:08.000 The roadrunner's hunting it.

02:21:09.000 Damn.

02:21:10.000 It's literally hunting...

02:21:11.000 Look at that dinosaur.

02:21:12.000 It looks nothing like the dinosaur.

02:21:13.000 Because they're up close.

02:21:14.000 When you're up close.

02:21:15.000 Look at this shit.

02:21:16.000 The roadrunner is so fast, he can hop away.

02:21:19.000 I didn't see shit.

02:21:19.000 There's like camera tricks.

02:21:20.000 I don't see shit.

02:21:21.000 Bro, bro, bro, look.

02:21:21.000 It's right there.

02:21:22.000 You didn't see that?

02:21:23.000 This is- I looked it up after I saw this video.

02:21:26.000 It's a fact.

02:21:26.000 Roadrunners eat fucking safe.

02:21:28.000 Look at this shit!

02:21:29.000 He just bapped him by the face, and now look at this.

02:21:32.000 He smashes his head on the fucking rocks.

02:21:34.000 How gangster is this bird?

02:21:35.000 Dude, I got a new favorite animal.

02:21:37.000 Look at this!

02:21:37.000 I got a new favorite animal.

02:21:38.000 Look at this!

02:21:39.000 Holy shit!

02:21:40.000 He's just smashing that fucking head on the rocks.

02:21:43.000 Look at this.

02:21:43.000 Whip!

02:21:43.000 Boom!

02:21:44.000 Dude, shout out to Roadrunners. 1.00

02:21:46.000 Dude.

02:21:47.000 He just murked that motherfucker! 0.99

02:21:50.000 Damn!

02:21:50.000 He just beat Nurmagomedov that fucking snake on a rock!

02:21:54.000 He swallowed the whole fucking thing!

02:21:55.000 Damn!

02:21:55.000 He swallowed the whole fucking thing!

02:21:58.000 Some would say he deep-throated that rattlesnake.

02:22:01.000 That's my favorite animal.

02:22:02.000 Guys, fights back on!

02:22:03.000 Shut the fuck up! 0.99

02:22:04.000 Fights back on.

02:22:05.000 Goddammit!

02:22:05.000 Round two.

02:22:06.000 Look at that.

02:22:06.000 Keep that.

02:22:07.000 Brian, go for it.

02:22:08.000 Keep that left.

02:22:10.000 Actually, that right hand.

02:22:11.000 That a boy.

02:22:12.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:22:13.000 Cejudo's winging that right hand.

02:22:16.000 Cejudo looks pissed.

02:22:17.000 I've never seen him fight with this much bad intentions.

02:22:20.000 Well, they worked alongside each other for a long time and talked a lot of shit to each other.

02:22:23.000 Well, Joe keeps swaying for that right hand counter.

02:22:26.000 Joe looks a little off tonight.

02:22:27.000 Well, he's probably been tagged a few times in that first round.

02:22:30.000 You know, he's looking for that big right hand to get things back.

02:22:33.000 The reason I thought Joe would win this fight, and I'm not saying he's not going to, he does everything really well, and Cejudo does a few things great.

02:22:40.000 So I thought Joe would kind of edge it out with just mixing it up, but he's not doing that.

02:22:45.000 Well, Cejudo has nowhere near the level of experience, other than the Johnson fight.

02:22:51.000 He has seven fights.

02:22:52.000 Yeah, I mean, and Benavidez has fought Johnson a couple of times.

02:22:57.000 That was when I was a goddamn Mighty Mouse.

02:22:59.000 Cejudo is a tremendous athlete.

02:23:02.000 He marked both of these guys.

02:23:05.000 Tremendous.

02:23:06.000 How bad did he knock out Joey Benavidez?

02:23:09.000 Oh, yeah.

02:23:10.000 Oh my god.

02:23:11.000 Yeah, he crushed him.

02:23:12.000 You know, and then what he did to Cejudo was pretty goddamn impressive, too.

02:23:16.000 It was amazing, man.

02:23:17.000 He took him down, too.

02:23:18.000 And the technical kicks, or knees rather, to the body, the Muay Thai from the clinch, it was perfect.

02:23:23.000 Did you hear what Mighty Mouse said before that fight?

02:23:25.000 Well, he is an Olympic gold medalist in wrestling.

02:23:27.000 He went, there's 250 gold medalists.

02:23:30.000 There's one, you know, fucking world champion like this.

02:23:34.000 I think I'm like, fuck.

02:23:35.000 I was like, oh my god!

02:23:38.000 So legit.

02:23:39.000 I love Mighty Mouse.

02:23:40.000 I've been singing Mighty Mouse's praises forever.

02:23:42.000 You have.

02:23:43.000 He's not my pound for pound number one, but he's amazing.

02:23:45.000 He's been mine for the past few years.

02:23:46.000 Who's your pound for pound number one? 0.98

02:23:47.000 Jon Jones.

02:23:49.000 Over Conor McGregor?

02:23:50.000 See, but you can't say that, but here's what I think.

02:23:52.000 When you look at Jon Jones, I think Jon Jones ultimately absolutely has the potential to be number one, but he's been too inactive, and the fight with Ovin St. Preux, although Ovin St. Preux, I feel, is a very good fighter, and it's a very tough fight.

02:24:04.000 If you look at who has beaten Ovin St. Preux, and how Jon Jones looked against him.

02:24:10.000 You can't go off his one fight.

02:24:11.000 You're right, you can't entirely buy it, but as of late, he's been incredibly inactive.

02:24:17.000 I see a little- I see a little- Mighty Mouse has been not just- Hey, fuck face!

02:24:21.000 I'm talking over here!

02:24:23.000 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

02:24:23.000 When Mighty Mouse has been active, he's been spectacular.

02:24:27.000 He's been spectacular, but the thing is, is we've seen Mighty Mouse lose.

02:24:30.000 We've never seen Jon Jones lose.

02:24:32.000 You're right.

02:24:32.000 God, you guys are missing a great fight.

02:24:34.000 You're right, but he's not fought.

02:24:35.000 And also, what Mighty Mouse is, he can make a mistake, get punched with the right hand.

02:24:40.000 They're 125 pounds.

02:24:41.000 They keep on, keep on.

02:24:42.000 Jon Jones makes one mistake against Vitor.

02:24:44.000 The fight's over.

02:24:46.000 No, no, he fell.

02:24:46.000 Because of their weight classes, I don't have them pound for pound number one.

02:24:49.000 That is a good argument, except for guys like John Lineker, who knocked guys out with one punch, and Mighty Mouse, who knocked out Benavidez with one punch.

02:24:58.000 Still different than 205-pound monsters.

02:25:02.000 You're right.

02:25:02.000 It is a little bit different.

02:25:03.000 Have you forgotten about a guy named Anderson Silva?

02:25:06.000 Brian Callen coming in and fucking shut that shit down.

02:25:09.000 What about him?

02:25:10.000 Best ever?

02:25:11.000 Right now.

02:25:12.000 100%.

02:25:13.000 Right now, it's entirely possible to make the case of either Fedor, Anderson Silva, or Mighty Mouse.

02:25:20.000 Or Verdum.

02:25:21.000 GSP? Maybe Verdum.

02:25:23.000 If he didn't lose his last.

02:25:24.000 Yeah.

02:25:25.000 Verdum's hard with a Stipe fight.

02:25:27.000 You can't put Verdum again.

02:25:28.000 The junior fight.

02:25:29.000 Anderson Silva, who finished everybody?

02:25:31.000 It's arguable that Verdum's the best heavyweight of all time.

02:25:33.000 You can make that argument.

02:25:34.000 I'm sorry, that's what I'm arguing.

02:25:34.000 Not pound for pound.

02:25:35.000 Verdum, heavyweight.

02:25:37.000 Pound for pound, John, Mighty Mouse.

02:25:38.000 You can put Conor up there.

02:25:41.000 Conor's an argument.

02:25:42.000 Conor's an argument.

02:25:42.000 Is it just me?

02:25:43.000 I hear you keep saying Anderson.

02:25:44.000 I'm kind of on something else.

02:25:45.000 Don't you think he's the number one fighter of all time as far as finishing everybody?

02:25:50.000 No, I think John is.

02:25:50.000 With style the way he did?

02:25:52.000 What are we talking about here?

02:25:53.000 You know I don't know shit about striking.

02:25:54.000 He beat up everybody.

02:25:55.000 You know that.

02:25:56.000 I don't know shit about striking, but I can visibly see Conor countering with his left hand.

02:26:03.000 I can see that, and I don't really see it with a lot of fighters.

02:26:06.000 I know I don't know shit, but is that...

02:26:09.000 No, you're right.

02:26:09.000 Is he an amazing counter puncher?

02:26:12.000 100%, Eddie.

02:26:13.000 Because I'm seeing as soon as someone throws, he goes BOOM! He's just waiting for that shot.

02:26:17.000 It's so clean.

02:26:19.000 It's so fast.

02:26:20.000 It's so obvious.

02:26:21.000 He's waiting for you.

02:26:22.000 As soon as you throw, he's going to fuck you up.

02:26:24.000 Well, what Connor has is this ability to slide back and counter with such incredible precision.

02:26:31.000 He's just got a beautiful precision, too.

02:26:35.000 The technique's perfect.

02:26:36.000 He plants it right on your chin.

02:26:37.000 He's super accurate.

02:26:39.000 He's so fast, you get surprised.

02:26:40.000 How do you get that good?

02:26:41.000 Don't you think his strength is, too, is he's...

02:26:43.000 He has some sort of skill where he can predetermine what you're going to do.

02:26:48.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:26:49.000 We've never really seen it.

02:26:50.000 We've never really seen a guy like you.

02:26:52.000 A lot of understanding of striking and movement.

02:26:54.000 How do you get that good at countering?

02:26:56.000 If a guy comes to you and says, Joe, I'm going to dedicate my life to you.

02:27:00.000 I want you to turn me into the ultimate counter fighter.

02:27:04.000 I would say go to that fucking dude on his knees in front of Joseph Benavidez.

02:27:07.000 Go to Dwayne Ludwig.

02:27:08.000 He's all about the counters.

02:27:09.000 Dude, Dwayne Ludwig, how about the fuck he's get the fastest ever fucking KO of in the UFC from a counter?

02:27:15.000 And he fought out the Canadian.

02:27:17.000 He had multiple colored hands.

02:27:21.000 Why can't I remember his name?

02:27:22.000 God, I can't remember his fucking name either.

02:27:24.000 Does Joey have a twin brother?

02:27:26.000 What would you do?

02:27:29.000 Actual, not sending me to Dwayne Ludwig, but what would, like, a drill you would come up with that you would say, okay, you gotta do this shit every day.

02:27:37.000 Well, it would depend on where you're at, like, skill-wise.

02:27:40.000 Like, can you kick?

02:27:40.000 Can you punch?

02:27:41.000 Should you not even bother kicking?

02:27:42.000 How much time do we have to work with you?

02:27:44.000 Like, what are you gonna do?

02:27:45.000 Like, if you took a guy who had, like, almost no kicks whatsoever, you'd say, okay, let's forget the kicks.

02:27:50.000 What I want you to do is just check kicks.

02:27:51.000 We're going to work on punches.

02:27:53.000 Can you throw elbows?

02:27:54.000 I don't want you off balance throwing kicks.

02:27:56.000 There's a lot of different things you would think of, but when you see Connor's counters, his counters are so precise.

02:28:01.000 You only get that through that 10,000-hour principle.

02:28:04.000 I would say you have five years to work with someone.

02:28:05.000 You have five years.

02:28:06.000 They have to be obsessed and they have to be genetically gifted.

02:28:09.000 Because there's certain punchers, they just did not have that kind of snap to be counter guys.

02:28:13.000 Like a guy like Matt Hamill, who was a really powerful wrestler and a good puncher and a good striker ultimately later in his career.

02:28:20.000 He never had that BUTT! There's that fucking, there's that fucking SPAP! Damn, you said Matt Hamill.

02:28:26.000 But you know what I mean?

02:28:27.000 Matt Hamill's a tough guy.

02:28:27.000 That's such a good example.

02:28:29.000 It's a good example because he's a tough guy and a strong, powerful wrestler.

02:28:31.000 But he was an explosive and didn't have that kind of accuracy.

02:28:36.000 There's a bunch of guys you could say that you could put in that category who were like really powerful grapplers who just weren't the most lightning-like strikers.

02:28:44.000 There's a certain type of striking.

02:28:46.000 There's striking where you know that the guy has good technique and you know that the guy pretty much understands where to be and where not to be and when to be defensive and when to be offensive.

02:28:57.000 That's like a well-rounded striker.

02:28:59.000 And then there's guys like Roy Jones Jr. There's every now and then you have these freaks.

02:29:04.000 But Roy Jones Jr. was a weird one because Roy Jones Jr. abandoned all of the orthodoxy of boxing.

02:29:11.000 I mean, he kept his hands low.

02:29:13.000 He barely threw jabs.

02:29:14.000 He threw a leaping left hook instead.

02:29:16.000 And he had ridiculous speed and power to the point where nobody could fuck with it.

02:29:20.000 Dude, remember when he was coming out?

02:29:22.000 For years and years.

02:29:22.000 Remember when he was in his prime?

02:29:23.000 Yeah.

02:29:24.000 Fuck, he was so fucking good.

02:29:25.000 Dude!

02:29:26.000 Did you watch the Kovalev-Andre Warden?

02:29:28.000 Yes.

02:29:28.000 Yes, I did.

02:29:29.000 Great fight, man.

02:29:29.000 Terrible pay for you members.

02:29:30.000 I watched it again.

02:29:31.000 I watched it again.

02:29:32.000 And I wanted to see if I was biased because I thought that Kovalev won and I still think he won.

02:29:37.000 Yeah, so do I. I don't think he won by much, and I think Andre Ward did a really good job of holding his own, but I just don't think there was enough convincing rounds where Ward won in the way that I think the rounds that Kovalev won.

02:29:49.000 I agree.

02:29:50.000 So I was like, man, I was watching, I'm like, I feel like Kovalev definitely won, but it was close.

02:29:55.000 And then when Lenderman was like, oh, it's a complete blowout, I'm like, well, I don't agree with that.

02:29:59.000 I don't think Andre Ward won, but I don't think he got blown out.

02:30:02.000 No, I think it was a one point for Kovalev.

02:30:05.000 And I think the reason why you could make that is because I think that Andre Ward sort of clawed his way back.

02:30:09.000 He won some rounds.

02:30:11.000 Like later in the fight, it seemed like he had got that jab established more.

02:30:14.000 He popped a couple real good jabs on him.

02:30:15.000 7 through 11 he was doing work.

02:30:17.000 But he got dropped.

02:30:18.000 It was a 10-8 round, I think, in the second.

02:30:20.000 Oh, yeah.

02:30:21.000 Second round.

02:30:21.000 Yeah.

02:30:22.000 I mean, you could see a one-point fight for Kovalov.

02:30:26.000 He won the fight, though.

02:30:28.000 But I just...

02:30:29.000 And I don't...

02:30:30.000 Oh, shit.

02:30:30.000 This is crazy.

02:30:31.000 It's a crazy fight.

02:30:34.000 But again, it depends entirely on how you score fights, too, right?

02:30:38.000 I mean, everybody has their own idea.

02:30:40.000 When you look at the numbers, though.

02:30:42.000 The numbers of significant punches and stuff like that favors Kovalov.

02:30:46.000 True.

02:30:47.000 But, Joe, your number one fighter is Mighty Mouse.

02:30:50.000 Number two is Anderson Silva?

02:30:51.000 Yeah, that's my number one and number two.

02:30:53.000 Because I judge him on what I see from him right now.

02:30:56.000 And when I see, like, I understand that he's fighting smaller guys.

02:30:59.000 I understand they don't have as much power.

02:31:00.000 Margin of error.

02:31:01.000 I understand that.

02:31:02.000 The margin of error is different.

02:31:03.000 However, what I factor in is the greatness of movement.

02:31:06.000 And what I see in Mighty Mouse is pure efficiency.

02:31:09.000 I see crazy shit.

02:31:11.000 Like when he got Cejudo in the clinch and he's throwing these precision knees to the body that come with no wind-up.

02:31:17.000 Cejudo has no idea they're coming.

02:31:19.000 Mighty Mouse puts it on him.

02:31:20.000 I'm seeing the Mighty Mouse that saw Joseph Benavidez leaving his chin out there and caught him with one punch and KO'd him when the knock on him was that he wasn't a one-punch striker.

02:31:29.000 I saw him when he fought Hayoki where he dominated Hayoki for all five rounds and with a second to go.

02:31:35.000 He always catches him with You know who he don't include in Pound for Pound?

02:31:39.000 Because he's not active enough?

02:31:40.000 Not McCruz.

02:31:41.000 But if you look at his record, it's ridiculous.

02:31:44.000 That's a great point.

02:31:45.000 But he's not active enough.

02:31:47.000 That is a great point.

02:31:48.000 I'll tell you what, man.

02:31:49.000 Him and Cody No Love is going to be quite interesting.

02:31:52.000 Quite interesting.

02:31:54.000 Because Cody catches anyone that's going to sleep.

02:31:55.000 He's my favorite fighter of that weight class by far.

02:31:58.000 And that's a good point, because what we're talking about is about guys who are really good at certain things.

02:32:03.000 Like, Cody Nolove is way better at striking than what you're seeing right now.

02:32:07.000 Joey's way better.

02:32:08.000 He's the Chuck Liddell of that weight class.

02:32:10.000 He's the Chuck Liddell of 135. He does creepy, scary shit to people.

02:32:14.000 Like, when he murked Thomas Almeida with that combination, his striking is like, these guys make no mistake about it.

02:32:20.000 Benavidez and Cejudo are both very good strikers.

02:32:22.000 Joey's winning this.

02:32:23.000 I'm not sure you're right at all.

02:32:25.000 He's going to win this fight.

02:32:26.000 I don't know about that.

02:32:27.000 He's catching him.

02:32:28.000 We do this every time.

02:32:29.000 Brian's been watching it.

02:32:30.000 We've been talking.

02:32:31.000 The thing is, though, is with Don McCruise and Garbrandt, Don McCruise isn't a knockout.

02:32:37.000 He's far from it.

02:32:38.000 So he might land 30 punches.

02:32:40.000 Garbrandt needs one in 25 minutes.

02:32:43.000 But we've never seen Garbrandt four and five rounds in.

02:32:46.000 Correct.

02:32:46.000 It's going to be interesting because he's a very explosive guy.

02:32:48.000 It's such a fun fight, though.

02:32:49.000 But he's never been a guy that shows any sort of a slowdown in his style.

02:32:52.000 I like it, man.

02:32:53.000 Some people are upset that he got it.

02:32:54.000 I love it.

02:32:55.000 Oh, no, it's great.

02:32:56.000 The only person I feel bad for...

02:32:58.000 TJ got fucked.

02:32:58.000 Yeah, I feel bad for TJ. And they went, oh, TJ, here's fucking Lineker, too.

02:33:02.000 Oh, my God.

02:33:02.000 No title shot.

02:33:03.000 Here's Lineker the monster.

02:33:05.000 Lineker's a scary dude.

02:33:06.000 Yeah, he's the scary...

02:33:07.000 Yes.

02:33:08.000 He's got some creepy power in his hands, man.

02:33:10.000 Lineker Garbrandt's the motherfucking fight.

02:33:11.000 Yeah, right?

02:33:12.000 And Lineker seems to have an iron chin, too, which is scary.

02:33:15.000 He fights scary, right?

02:33:16.000 He fights...

02:33:16.000 He's a terrifying powerhouse, man.

02:33:19.000 See, I thought John Dotson beat him.

02:33:21.000 Really?

02:33:22.000 Because Lineker was coming forward non-stop.

02:33:24.000 Had Dotson win that fight.

02:33:25.000 I'd have to go back and watch it again.

02:33:27.000 I remember seeing the decision thinking it was correct.

02:33:30.000 I'd have to go back and watch that again.

02:33:32.000 Who do you think won this fight?

02:33:33.000 We weren't paying attention.

02:33:35.000 I've been talking to you about pound for pound.

02:33:36.000 I think Joey landed more strikes.

02:33:39.000 Clean strikes on his face.

02:33:41.000 That's what it looked like to me.

02:33:42.000 Might have.

02:33:43.000 And then you're going to have to pay his back.

02:33:44.000 Because Cejudo kept throwing, but Joey was weathering the storm and not getting hit.

02:33:50.000 Not getting hurt.

02:33:51.000 I like it.

02:33:51.000 I like putting a little on the line.

02:33:53.000 I'm just a backer.

02:33:54.000 I like being in action.

02:33:56.000 I hear you, man.

02:33:57.000 I really care who the horse is.

02:33:58.000 And then the main event, is anyone taking Tim Elliott?

02:34:01.000 Not you, Rogan.

02:34:02.000 You guys aren't down to order pizza?

02:34:05.000 Right here, no.

02:34:06.000 I don't want pizza players to know where we are.

02:34:08.000 Pizza players?

02:34:11.000 I was like, what the fuck's a pizza player?

02:34:13.000 How do you guys do it over here?

02:34:14.000 I can answer the door.

02:34:15.000 How would they know?

02:34:17.000 We could just say it's Brian T. No, you could do it next door and just have him text you.

02:34:21.000 We'll probably be out of here by the time they come.

02:34:23.000 Listen, we have some protein bars.

02:34:25.000 You want a protein bar or something?

02:34:26.000 It's just as good as pizza.

02:34:27.000 You want a protein bar?

02:34:27.000 Pizza would be nice, though, Joe.

02:34:28.000 Get something to eat afterwards.

02:34:29.000 You know what?

02:34:30.000 Fuck pizza.

02:34:30.000 You gotta do a set, right, Joe?

02:34:31.000 Pizza is part of the Agenda 21. Store.

02:34:34.000 I'm at the store tonight.

02:34:38.000 He's always there.

02:34:39.000 Putting together my new hour.

02:34:41.000 Love it.

02:34:43.000 Brian and I are there tomorrow night.

02:34:44.000 I have to.

02:34:44.000 I abandoned my hour to do the Netflix special.

02:34:46.000 Oh, that's nice.

02:34:47.000 I'm talking about myself.

02:34:48.000 Is that okay?

02:34:48.000 Can I do that?

02:34:49.000 I'm piggybacking this stuff.

02:34:50.000 Relax.

02:34:52.000 I'm over on this side now.

02:34:53.000 I just can't believe you guys are here.

02:34:56.000 He pushed the mic away.

02:34:57.000 Pizza.

02:34:59.000 He pushed the mic away.

02:35:00.000 You won't even let people talk about themselves.

02:35:02.000 Try to tell people some shit that's happening tonight.

02:35:05.000 Sorry, buddy.

02:35:05.000 Sorry.

02:35:05.000 And you're like, but what about us?

02:35:06.000 Oh, we're somewhere soon.

02:35:09.000 He pushed the mic away.

02:35:10.000 Did you see that?

02:35:10.000 I've never seen him do that.

02:35:11.000 I don't like him talking about a special.

02:35:12.000 It's a new hour.

02:35:13.000 The two of you guys together, you fight over each other so much.

02:35:15.000 You come here, you put it on us.

02:35:17.000 That's right.

02:35:17.000 Now we're all about that.

02:35:19.000 We're not about that.

02:35:20.000 You guys are about harmony?

02:35:21.000 Here's the difference between Eddie Bravo and I. We get high when you guys aren't around.

02:35:26.000 When you guys are together, you're not getting high.

02:35:29.000 Oh, and he wins!

02:35:30.000 Thank you.

02:35:30.000 I mean, Joey wins.

02:35:31.000 You owe me $500.

02:35:33.000 No, you owe me $500.

02:35:34.000 No, I thought I was...

02:35:35.000 Oh, that's right.

02:35:35.000 God bless Joey.

02:35:37.000 I forgot who I was rooting for.

02:35:40.000 He won that fight.

02:35:41.000 Brian Cowen was aware and correct.

02:35:44.000 Let's see if people are booing.

02:35:45.000 Any boos?

02:35:46.000 Crank it.

02:35:47.000 Volume, please.

02:35:48.000 There shouldn't be boos.

02:35:49.000 Beautiful.

02:35:49.000 Beautiful striking.

02:35:50.000 It's hard to tell.

02:35:50.000 It's like two roadrunners fighting.

02:35:52.000 His style's changed since he's working with- Roadrunners kill rattlesnakes with their face, you fuck.

02:35:55.000 You do not pay attention.

02:35:57.000 So sexist.

02:35:57.000 And Joey Benavides uses Bang Ludwig's technique.

02:36:00.000 His technique has changed and he looks amazing.

02:36:02.000 He looked very different in this fight than any of his other fights.

02:36:05.000 Ever.

02:36:06.000 Totally different.

02:36:07.000 Just from the little I saw, it looked like he lost.

02:36:09.000 Nope.

02:36:10.000 Yeah, I absolutely wasn't paying enough attention.

02:36:13.000 Plus, I have marijuana in my system, which impairs my judgment.

02:36:17.000 Yeah, me too.

02:36:18.000 Joey crushed it.

02:36:18.000 I'm about three wines deep.

02:36:20.000 God, good for him.

02:36:21.000 I eat this fudge thing.

02:36:22.000 I'm just, I'm not the same.

02:36:24.000 Fat fudge, man.

02:36:24.000 This stuff is a shit.

02:36:25.000 It was nice.

02:36:26.000 Paleo friendly.

02:36:27.000 It's really good for you.

02:36:28.000 Joe, you been back on paleo?

02:36:29.000 Yeah, I only got off of it because I went on vacation.

02:36:33.000 I did it for the holidays, and I told you I had the worst headaches, brother, when I went back on.

02:36:37.000 I thought I was going to die.

02:36:38.000 I do an abbreviated version where I allow myself to have some desserts and shit, but I don't go fucking full hog.

02:36:47.000 My body understands what's bad for it now.

02:36:49.000 It doesn't feel good anymore.

02:36:51.000 But if I make a grilled cheese sandwich for my kids...

02:36:54.000 God damn, that sounds nice.

02:36:55.000 I love a grilled cheese sandwich with butter.

02:36:56.000 Do you butter the bread?

02:36:57.000 I do.

02:36:58.000 I butter the bread.

02:36:58.000 Of course you butter the bread.

02:37:00.000 What kind of cheddar do you use?

02:37:01.000 I use a sharp cheddar.

02:37:02.000 That's nice.

02:37:03.000 I use a sharp cheddar.

02:37:03.000 I like a real sharp cheddar.

02:37:05.000 A lot of cheese.

02:37:06.000 I'll put a tomato slice in there too and mix it up.

02:37:08.000 I like that.

02:37:08.000 Yes, Joe Rogan.

02:37:09.000 I like the tomato slice.

02:37:11.000 Tomato slice really should be standard.

02:37:13.000 I agree.

02:37:13.000 It's fresh.

02:37:13.000 Like how the fuck does BLT get the tomato and the cheese sandwich?

02:37:17.000 It really should be standard because it makes it juicy.

02:37:19.000 You gotta use white bread because you're not eating anything nutritious.

02:37:22.000 Don't fucking give me weed or multigrain.

02:37:25.000 Fuck you.

02:37:25.000 Give me that old-fashioned wonder bread white boy.

02:37:29.000 But I wouldn't be mad at you if you made me a grilled cheese sandwich with Ezekiel bread and alfalfa sprouts and Gouda.

02:37:36.000 And some heirloom tomatoes.

02:37:42.000 Little tomato soup.

02:37:44.000 And some grass-fed butter on the outside of the Ezekiel batter when you fry.

02:37:49.000 You fry in a cast iron pan, correct?

02:37:51.000 Because you're not a criminal.

02:37:52.000 No, you have to.

02:37:52.000 I'm a goddamn American.

02:37:54.000 You're an American.

02:37:55.000 You're not a bad person.

02:37:57.000 You're not a bad person.

02:37:59.000 You're not doing this in a fucking George Foreman grill.

02:38:02.000 You're using a gun.

02:38:03.000 Damn, cast iron frying pan like a fucking pioneer!

02:38:07.000 Dude, you make a grilled cheese or anything George Foreman, chicken, fuck you!

02:38:12.000 That shit ain't real.

02:38:14.000 I made a hundred chicken meals on a George Foreman grill all my life.

02:38:17.000 Me too, me too in college.

02:38:18.000 I would grill the fuck out of them.

02:38:20.000 Those things...

02:38:20.000 Listen, honestly, it's a good way to do it.

02:38:23.000 You grill the top and the bottom at the same time.

02:38:25.000 That kind of tastes like shit, though.

02:38:26.000 Compared to a grill.

02:38:26.000 But only if you get...

02:38:27.000 Most of the people eat on George Foreman grills.

02:38:30.000 You're not eating filet mignon.

02:38:31.000 You're getting shit cuts anyway because you're poor as fuck.

02:38:33.000 That's true.

02:38:34.000 I was grilling skirt steak and shit in my...

02:38:36.000 George Foreman.

02:38:37.000 Meanwhile, Mexicans figured out how to make skirt steak one of my favorite steaks. 0.79

02:38:41.000 The best.

02:38:41.000 They start fucking marinating this shit.

02:38:44.000 Damn right.

02:38:44.000 Skirt steak is a shit.

02:38:45.000 It really is.

02:38:46.000 Do you guys ever have an era in your 20s where you're not living at home and you're fucking broke as fuck and you have $17 and you gotta somehow make that last a week and you're like, okay, I got top ramen, a loaf of bread,

02:39:02.000 macaroni and cheese.

02:39:04.000 I just call my dad's secretary, and I say, Dad, I need some fucking money.

02:39:09.000 And my dad would go, how much do you need?

02:39:11.000 Totally figures.

02:39:11.000 I go, well, I don't know, $500 or $1,000, and he'd send me two grand.

02:39:15.000 That's why you believe in Fox News, because you'd be sucking on the dick of the government.

02:39:19.000 Listen, you guys will ultimately never be in my inner circle because you're poor.

02:39:23.000 We ever broke like that?

02:39:24.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

02:39:25.000 You're like, okay, $23.

02:39:27.000 We're going to the market.

02:39:28.000 Roll pennies.

02:39:29.000 We got it all.

02:39:30.000 I got a calculator at the fuck.

02:39:32.000 I'm 22 years old.

02:39:33.000 I'm like, I got, okay, three boxes of macaroni and cheese, a jar of peanut butter.

02:39:39.000 Loaf of bread.

02:39:40.000 Milk.

02:39:42.000 Four cans of tuna.

02:39:43.000 Damn, I could take that.

02:39:45.000 I could take that for four days.

02:39:47.000 It's all about survival.

02:39:49.000 It's about survival mode, man.

02:39:52.000 I grew up with a chef.

02:39:53.000 Survival.

02:39:54.000 When I was a kid, when I left my parents' house, ramen was big.

02:39:59.000 What age?

02:40:00.000 Dude, top ramen?

02:40:01.000 39 cents?

02:40:02.000 When I was real broke, at my brokest, I was like 1920 was my brokest.

02:40:07.000 Like going to college?

02:40:08.000 Yeah, well, barely, man.

02:40:10.000 I was going to college, but even when I say I'm going to college, there should be like an asterisk next to that statement.

02:40:15.000 I was taking classes, but I wasn't even ever thinking I was going to get a job.

02:40:19.000 I just didn't want anybody thinking I was a loser.

02:40:21.000 And I'd run into people in my town, and they'd be like, what are you doing?

02:40:23.000 I'm like, oh, I'm taking a year off.

02:40:25.000 And they'd be like, oh, I'm a fucking loser.

02:40:26.000 So after a year, I'm like, I can't keep feeling that every time I talk to somebody.

02:40:29.000 I've got to go to school.

02:40:31.000 So I started going to college, but it was barely paying attention.

02:40:35.000 I was paying more attention because that was at the time that I was considering doing stand-up comedy.

02:40:40.000 I hadn't done it yet.

02:40:42.000 And when I started doing it, that's when I quit college.

02:40:44.000 But I was considering doing it, so it was really more paying attention to people and how weird we all are in this struggle between being a child and being an adult.

02:40:53.000 There's this weird transitionary period where people are feeling their oats and flexing their intellectual muscles.

02:40:58.000 In front of a teacher and trying to catch the teacher when it's wrong and trying to debate the teacher.

02:41:04.000 I was fascinated by that, man.

02:41:06.000 I was fascinated by that because when I was fighting especially, that was all when I was still competing.

02:41:10.000 I was always really interested in conflict, any kind of conflict, verbal conflict, physical conflict, games.

02:41:18.000 You embraced it, you're saying?

02:41:19.000 I'm interested in it.

02:41:20.000 I'm curious as to what's going on here.

02:41:22.000 Like, why is this kid protesting what the teacher's saying?

02:41:25.000 Is he protesting because he's made a really solid assessment of the facts at hand and he finds a flaw in the logic?

02:41:30.000 Or is he trying to get attention?

02:41:33.000 Has he looked at it from, if he's had step 1 through 10 to really verify what your thoughts are?

02:41:38.000 Have you looked at 1 through 10?

02:41:40.000 Or did you go up to like 3 and you feel your oats and you think you're smart as fuck and you dive in?

02:41:45.000 Yes.

02:41:45.000 So what I was more interested in when I was in college, honestly, was just people interacting with each other.

02:41:51.000 My favorite moment from college had to do with this Puerto Rican girl that I was trying to fuck. 1.00

02:41:55.000 Good for you.

02:41:56.000 And I was in the lunchroom with this girl.

02:42:00.000 This girl kept inviting me to go to these things with her.

02:42:04.000 What kind of things?

02:42:05.000 These fucking retreats.

02:42:07.000 She was like, me and my friends.

02:42:08.000 She was in my Italian class.

02:42:09.000 Oh, she was trying to fuck, son. 1.00

02:42:11.000 Dude, she was so hot. 1.00

02:42:12.000 You don't know that, Brandon.

02:42:13.000 She was so hot.

02:42:14.000 You jumped to conclusions.

02:42:15.000 Why do you jump to conclusions like that?

02:42:17.000 Please tell me the story.

02:42:18.000 She was thick, and she was juicy, and she had glasses. 0.98

02:42:21.000 And I knew she spoke Spanish.

02:42:22.000 I couldn't wait to hear it.

02:42:24.000 And I was like, it's just a matter of time.

02:42:25.000 Like, this girl's giving me all kinds of vibe, right?

02:42:28.000 Breaking her walls down.

02:42:29.000 We're going out in the Cape.

02:42:31.000 I would love if you'd come.

02:42:32.000 And I felt bad.

02:42:34.000 I didn't want to tell her that I was going to fight in a tournament.

02:42:37.000 What?

02:42:38.000 No, no, no.

02:42:38.000 I was super insecure about it.

02:42:40.000 I thought I was an idiot.

02:42:41.000 I thought I had brain damage.

02:42:42.000 I was in college.

02:42:43.000 She would have jacked you off in history. 0.98

02:42:45.000 No, probably not.

02:42:46.000 You'd be surprised.

02:42:48.000 It didn't sound even real to say.

02:42:52.000 Sound like a gimmick.

02:42:54.000 I'm going to go kick some dudes. 1.00

02:42:56.000 Anyway, I couldn't make it.

02:42:59.000 So she's like, we do them all the time.

02:43:01.000 I would love to have you come again.

02:43:02.000 I would love to come again.

02:43:03.000 And I'm like, fuck yeah!

02:43:05.000 I left that and it was like...

02:43:10.000 I was pumped.

02:43:11.000 I was like, damn, we're in.

02:43:13.000 So then I went back to school after the tournament.

02:43:16.000 I'm sitting in the lunchroom.

02:43:17.000 And ironically enough, it was a Trump airplane.

02:43:20.000 It was one of those Trump airlines.

02:43:22.000 You were on Trump Airlines?

02:43:24.000 No, listen to me.

02:43:24.000 I was at the lunchroom, and we were about to eat.

02:43:27.000 And the Trump airline that day, the fucking landing gear didn't come down, but the jet skid into the runway and splashed.

02:43:35.000 And they put fucking flame retardant foam all over the runway.

02:43:39.000 It was crazy.

02:43:40.000 I went down.

02:43:41.000 I sat down with these kids.

02:43:42.000 This Puerto Rican girl was so hot. 1.00

02:43:44.000 And all of her friends.

02:43:45.000 And I sat down with them at lunch and I said, did you guys hear about the jet that just crash landed?

02:43:51.000 It had this run.

02:43:52.000 And they were like, what happened?

02:43:53.000 And I said, apparently the front landing gear didn't engage, didn't lock down.

02:43:58.000 Trump Airlines.

02:43:59.000 But everybody's fine and nobody got hurt.

02:44:02.000 They go, oh, praise God, praise God, praise God.

02:44:05.000 I went, oh, no.

02:44:08.000 And then I realized I was standing there over the table because they're all going, praise God, praise God.

02:44:13.000 I'm like, shit.

02:44:14.000 You were getting sucked into a religious. 0.96

02:44:17.000 So then I sat down with so much sadness, but also happy because I love conflict.

02:44:25.000 Right?

02:44:25.000 So I'm sitting down, I'm like this little demon that sits down at the table.

02:44:30.000 Back then, back then, no diplomacy.

02:44:32.000 Back then, a fucking laser beam.

02:44:35.000 Back then, not a diplomat.

02:44:38.000 Keep going.

02:44:38.000 You didn't even know me then.

02:44:40.000 This was when I was 19. I knew you when you were 27. Yeah, when I was 19, I was straight feral.

02:44:45.000 So I sat down at this table, and they're going like, praise God.

02:44:49.000 What's feral mean?

02:44:49.000 Wild.

02:44:50.000 My mother's a beautiful person, and my stepdad's a beautiful man, and I love them to death, but they worked.

02:44:57.000 And when people work, the kids are gone.

02:45:00.000 From whatever time, to when they get out of school, they're fucking wild.

02:45:04.000 Wild and loose in the streets and that's how I grew up.

02:45:07.000 Trying to make sense of the world and your own instincts.

02:45:08.000 I was a latchkey kid from a divorced family and I grew up hanging out with other kids.

02:45:13.000 And you develop these crazy...

02:45:15.000 And then I started fighting.

02:45:16.000 So no juicy Puerto Rican asked for you. 1.00

02:45:18.000 So I was fighting.

02:45:19.000 So I had a very distorted version of things as it is.

02:45:22.000 So then I sat down and I said, so this thing that you wanted me to do when you were asking me to go hang out with your friends At the Cape, and I have like a big smile on my face.

02:45:33.000 I'm like, that was about Jesus, right?

02:45:35.000 And they were like, it's really important that you know Jesus.

02:45:38.000 I go, you know Jesus?

02:45:39.000 I go, you know Jesus?

02:45:41.000 And we had this really bizarre conversation.

02:45:43.000 She's like, Jesus is in my heart.

02:45:45.000 I go, did he tell you that's his name?

02:45:47.000 Did you get to know him?

02:45:49.000 Like, what are you talking about?

02:45:50.000 And then she starts talking about the Bible.

02:45:52.000 Which Bible are we talking about?

02:45:54.000 We're talking about the Old Testament?

02:45:55.000 We're talking about the New Testament?

02:45:56.000 And we have this creepy fucking weirdo conversation.

02:45:59.000 Where I was just such a- And you knew you were never going to get- Game over.

02:46:02.000 You've never seen those cheeks.

02:46:03.000 I wasn't- I was, at the time, like for me, I was as nice as I could have been while I was feral.

02:46:10.000 Because you liked her.

02:46:11.000 I'm sure she didn't talk to you after that.

02:46:12.000 No, no, I was done.

02:46:13.000 I was like, look, I grew up around- I was in Catholic school in the first grade.

02:46:18.000 I grew up around crazy religious people. 0.87

02:46:20.000 By the time I was like in, you know, my high school days and past my high school days, I was like, I see what the fuck's going on.

02:46:27.000 Like, you're crazy.

02:46:28.000 You're not sucking me into this.

02:46:29.000 So I was just confused.

02:46:30.000 Here's my question to everybody at the table.

02:46:32.000 She was so hot, dude. 1.00

02:46:33.000 My experience has been really religious girls fuck immediately. 1.00

02:46:41.000 In my dating history, the girls have talked about their- There's a warmth to the way they approach you.

02:46:46.000 Yes.

02:46:47.000 They give in.

02:46:47.000 When they say they love the Lord, they will be sucking your cock.

02:46:52.000 That guy behind him, Matt motherfucking Hume.

02:46:55.000 That guy knows as much about MMA. Might be the best coach, eh?

02:46:58.000 Yeah, might be the best.

02:46:59.000 Him and Faraz Ahabi.

02:47:01.000 There's like him, Duke Rufus, Faraz Ahabi. 1.00

02:47:04.000 There's a few, yeah, Bang for striking for sure.

02:47:07.000 But as far as like overall MMA coaches...

02:47:10.000 Man, it's tough to not give the nod to Matt Hume.

02:47:13.000 Matt Hume or Firas are my number ones.

02:47:15.000 Yeah, they're number one.

02:47:16.000 It's like the pound for pound talk.

02:47:17.000 You can really rotate them out.

02:47:19.000 And a guy like GSP, obviously, he developed under the tutelage of Firas Ahabi, but he would have developed under the tutelage of Matt Hume too.

02:47:27.000 Maybe.

02:47:28.000 I don't know.

02:47:28.000 I think he would have if he could learn French.

02:47:32.000 Frost and GSP were boys, though.

02:47:34.000 They grew up, so there's this bond and connection.

02:47:36.000 It's a big bond.

02:47:37.000 They're fighting for each other.

02:47:38.000 Now, if you're Tim Elliott, it's guns, bombs away, right?

02:47:41.000 I don't think so.

02:47:42.000 What do you do?

02:47:43.000 It's bombs away.

02:47:44.000 You gotta go bombs away.

02:47:45.000 You think you just gotta go balls to the wall, Brunson style?

02:47:47.000 Yeah, almost.

02:47:48.000 Yeah, I mean, almost like the only way to out-technique this guy.

02:47:53.000 Gio did it.

02:47:54.000 Well, any high-level guy, Elliot's lost to.

02:47:57.000 Demetrius is like Geo beating Cummings, you know what I mean?

02:48:00.000 In a way, yeah, you're right.

02:48:01.000 Most people thought Cummings was, and rightfully so, he's mowing through everybody with his heel hooks.

02:48:08.000 Can Geo hang with that?

02:48:10.000 And he did, man.

02:48:11.000 Herb Dean looks bored as well.

02:48:12.000 MMA is like Wednesday on the Mickey Mouse Club.

02:48:16.000 Wednesday is Anything Can Happen Day.

02:48:18.000 Oh, yeah.

02:48:18.000 Wednesday we get loose Mickey Mouse.

02:48:20.000 That's what MMA is. 0.82

02:48:21.000 As a sport, MMA is Anything Can Happen Day.

02:48:24.000 Not at this weight class.

02:48:25.000 Bullshit.

02:48:26.000 I disagree with that.

02:48:26.000 I disagree.

02:48:27.000 Well, you can disagree all day.

02:48:28.000 What's been the closest upset, Joe?

02:48:29.000 Those are little human beings.

02:48:30.000 What do you mean anything can happen can happen?

02:48:35.000 Because of the weight.

02:48:37.000 Explain that.

02:48:38.000 He just said anything can happen and you say I disagree.

02:48:41.000 Yeah.

02:48:41.000 Because of the weight.

02:48:42.000 Because of the weight class.

02:48:42.000 What can't happen because of the weight?

02:48:46.000 Guys can get KO'd, bro.

02:48:48.000 Because they're so light.

02:48:48.000 Guys will get KO'd.

02:48:50.000 They do get KO'd.

02:48:51.000 Not maybe as often.

02:48:52.000 Not a lot.

02:48:53.000 But they do.

02:48:54.000 Not a lot.

02:48:56.000 Statistics are on my side.

02:48:57.000 He's a sizist. 0.92

02:48:58.000 But anything can happen.

02:49:00.000 A knockout can happen, though.

02:49:01.000 I like statistics.

02:49:02.000 But a knockout can happen.

02:49:07.000 One punch dog out can't happen.

02:49:09.000 And the opposite end of the spectrum is a decision can happen.

02:49:16.000 Yes.

02:49:17.000 So anything can happen.

02:49:18.000 Can I just stop this before this fight and say this is my favorite thing to do in my whole life?

02:49:26.000 I love these.

02:49:27.000 The best.

02:49:28.000 I love this more than anything I do in my life.

02:49:30.000 Hell yeah.

02:49:31.000 I woke up this morning crunk as fuck about it.

02:49:33.000 Are you kidding?

02:49:34.000 Me driving here, I'm like, I don't want to be late!

02:49:38.000 Yes!

02:49:39.000 So stupid.

02:49:40.000 We must watch this because he's ready.

02:49:44.000 And again, here's the thing I'm saying.

02:49:46.000 I've been singing this dude's praises forever.

02:49:47.000 I don't think Mighty Mouse gets enough respect.

02:49:50.000 I don't think he gets the respect that he deserves.

02:49:52.000 Respect him, Brendan.

02:49:53.000 Respect him.

02:49:54.000 I said your name right, so you say his name right.

02:49:56.000 I love Mighty Mouse.

02:49:57.000 He's going to murk this fucking guy.

02:49:57.000 But this is what I think.

02:49:58.000 Forget about all the weight and all that stuff.

02:50:00.000 You're right.

02:50:00.000 You make some really good points.

02:50:01.000 But as far as an expression of martial arts talent, that's the finest I've ever seen in my life.

02:50:07.000 I don't give a fuck what he weighs.

02:50:08.000 As far as expression of martial arts talent, that's the finest I've ever seen.

02:50:12.000 So if Tim Elliott can beat him, which he absolutely can because it's Wednesday and Wednesdays.

02:50:18.000 Anything can happen today.

02:50:19.000 The Little Boys Club.

02:50:20.000 You never know, bro.

02:50:21.000 You're most likely right.

02:50:22.000 You never know.

02:50:23.000 The odds are on my side.

02:50:24.000 Dude, people get injured.

02:50:25.000 Weird shit happens.

02:50:26.000 Hands break.

02:50:27.000 Knees pop. 0.73

02:50:28.000 Backs go.

02:50:28.000 Watch what Mighty Mouse does this for.

02:50:30.000 God, Mighty Mouse can move. 0.99

02:50:31.000 A guy zigs when he should have zagged.

02:50:33.000 Changes it up.

02:50:34.000 Oh, oh.

02:50:34.000 Blocking.

02:50:35.000 Blocking.

02:50:35.000 Oh, listen, man.

02:50:36.000 Blocking.

02:50:37.000 You never know, man.

02:50:38.000 Elliot's doing some funky shit.

02:50:41.000 You never know.

02:50:42.000 You never know, dude.

02:50:43.000 Weird shit happens.

02:50:44.000 The world is strange.

02:50:44.000 These guys move so quickly.

02:51:06.000 Because if you just did that to Demetrius just get side control in top position You're high level.

02:51:13.000 Yeah, look at this.

02:51:14.000 Already.

02:51:15.000 That's it.

02:51:16.000 That's high level right there.

02:51:18.000 Look, he's on top half controlling him.

02:51:19.000 Can you imagine he submitted Mighty Mouse right now?

02:51:21.000 I talked to all that shit.

02:51:22.000 Half guard here, holding on to the neck.

02:51:23.000 I like this position.

02:51:25.000 Look at that bass.

02:51:26.000 Good bass.

02:51:26.000 Good wrestler's bass.

02:51:27.000 But...

02:51:27.000 Mighty Mouse is throwing those legs up, but it's kind of loose.

02:51:30.000 Look at this bass.

02:51:31.000 Look at this bass and balance.

02:51:34.000 This is why MMA is beautiful, folks.

02:51:36.000 The beauty of all that.

02:51:37.000 This is why MMA is beautiful.

02:51:39.000 Look at this.

02:51:39.000 Elliot with a good grip.

02:51:40.000 Oh, nice knee to the head. 0.92

02:51:41.000 Elliot is high-level grappler.

02:51:44.000 Guillotine! 0.88

02:51:45.000 Elliot is high-level.

02:51:45.000 Please don't get submitted.

02:51:46.000 Oh, no, he's passing.

02:51:47.000 Oh, yo, dude.

02:51:48.000 He's not necessarily passing.

02:51:50.000 It could be over.

02:51:51.000 Okay, it could.

02:51:52.000 Oh, shit.

02:51:54.000 Holy shit.

02:51:55.000 Oh, shit, he rolled, son.

02:51:57.000 He switched it to a darts.

02:51:59.000 Oh, look at that.

02:51:59.000 Oh, he switched to the darts!

02:52:01.000 He's got it deep!

02:52:02.000 Dude, get out of here. 1.00

02:52:04.000 He's high level.

02:52:05.000 I was talking all that shit.

02:52:08.000 I was trying to tell you.

02:52:09.000 I was trying to tell you it's over.

02:52:10.000 He's going to sleep.

02:52:11.000 He's going to sleep.

02:52:12.000 It's over.

02:52:13.000 He's going to sleep.

02:52:13.000 I was talking all that mess.

02:52:15.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

02:52:17.000 DJ's holding that thumb.

02:52:18.000 It's goddamn Demetrius Johnson.

02:52:20.000 DJ's got a little space there.

02:52:21.000 He's got a little space.

02:52:22.000 See where he's using his thumbs?

02:52:24.000 That looks so deep.

02:52:25.000 That looks so deep.

02:52:26.000 It's very deep.

02:52:27.000 It's very deep, but DJ's not going to prematurely tap.

02:52:30.000 And you see his right thumb?

02:52:31.000 You know what?

02:52:31.000 The fact that he got that deep so quick means that he knows it takes a while sometimes.

02:52:36.000 He knows it takes a while.

02:52:37.000 He's getting all fours.

02:52:38.000 You've got to wear them down.

02:52:39.000 He knows that.

02:52:41.000 He's good now.

02:52:42.000 Oh, he's out!

02:52:43.000 Did you see that right there?

02:52:46.000 That's why Demetrius Johnson is so amazing.

02:52:48.000 Damn, look at he's on fire!

02:52:50.000 Look at Demetrius, he's on fire!

02:52:51.000 Holy shit, he's on fire!

02:52:54.000 He's supposed to be on fire!

02:52:56.000 Look at him, he's going to try to submit to Melian now. 1.00

02:52:57.000 Demetrius Johnson answering back!

02:52:59.000 Look at this.

02:53:00.000 He snapped in the neck.

02:53:01.000 He's going to try to go for that game.

02:53:02.000 He's going to spin to the back.

02:53:04.000 Johnson on top.

02:53:06.000 You know what?

02:53:06.000 This is a fight, folks.

02:53:08.000 This is a fight.

02:53:09.000 That's remarkable.

02:53:09.000 Holy shit.

02:53:09.000 What if he gets him with the exact same technique?

02:53:11.000 That's remarkable.

02:53:12.000 Oh, look at this.

02:53:13.000 He's got an arm run under the neck.

02:53:15.000 Demetrius will get him in the same shit.

02:53:16.000 He'll get him with the same shit.

02:53:18.000 He might.

02:53:18.000 He looks like he's moving there.

02:53:20.000 He's moving there.

02:53:20.000 He's baiting him for the underhook on the left side.

02:53:23.000 There's so much game right there.

02:53:23.000 If he uses his left underhook.

02:53:24.000 You're just sprawled out and you've got a head or an arm.

02:53:26.000 Dude, you know the amount of game that's required?

02:53:29.000 You know what?

02:53:29.000 Demetrius Johnson was like, how dare you?

02:53:31.000 Look at this.

02:53:32.000 Look at this.

02:53:33.000 He's got it now.

02:53:34.000 He's going for the underhook.

02:53:35.000 He can get him with the exact same technique if he punches that fucking right arm under.

02:53:39.000 Let's see if he punches that right arm under.

02:53:41.000 Nope, he doesn't even have it in the place.

02:53:43.000 Oh, look at this.

02:53:44.000 Elliot back up.

02:53:44.000 Very nice.

02:53:45.000 Very nice.

02:53:47.000 Jesus Christ.

02:53:49.000 Joe, I'll say this with the OSP John's talk.

02:53:54.000 Look at that, though.

02:53:54.000 Good fucking movement there.

02:53:56.000 Good movement avoiding all those punches.

02:53:58.000 Even if he's tired.

02:53:59.000 That was good head movement there.

02:54:01.000 That's fine, man.

02:54:02.000 That's fine.

02:54:03.000 No, dudes don't put hands on knees. 1.00

02:54:06.000 That's not fine.

02:54:08.000 That's not fine.

02:54:09.000 Unless you're fucking around and you want the dude to think you're tired. 0.54

02:54:13.000 Tell me who's fucked around like that.

02:54:16.000 Elliot's fucked around and it's worked.

02:54:20.000 He's clipped him!

02:54:22.000 Oh my god!

02:54:23.000 Elliot is not playing.

02:54:26.000 He's tired.

02:54:27.000 Look at him, he's tired as fuck!

02:54:29.000 Look at him!

02:54:30.000 He wasn't playing.

02:54:31.000 Let's not dwell on that.

02:54:32.000 He just knocked Mighty Mouth down.

02:54:33.000 Oh! 0.60

02:54:34.000 Beautiful takedown!

02:54:35.000 What the fuck is going on?

02:54:36.000 Elliot is on top of the world at this division right now.

02:54:39.000 Elliot is winning.

02:54:40.000 He's got a rock in this round.

02:54:42.000 He's on top.

02:54:42.000 Like I said, anything can happen.

02:54:46.000 Hey listen, it has nothing to do with whites. 0.51

02:54:49.000 Every day in MMA is Wednesday on the Mickey Mouse Club.

02:54:52.000 Even in the little boys club.

02:54:54.000 Yup, you're right.

02:54:55.000 Now what's going on right here?

02:54:56.000 Top F, what's going on right here?

02:54:57.000 This is crazy.

02:54:58.000 What's going on right here?

02:55:00.000 Demetrius Johnson, he's hurting here.

02:55:02.000 He just woke up.

02:55:03.000 Demetrius just woke up and said, what the fuck am I doing?

02:55:06.000 He's trying to get back up to his feet, but he's getting guillotined here.

02:55:08.000 He's got to be real careful with that left arm.

02:55:10.000 This is Elliot's shit, man.

02:55:11.000 He's really good at closing the show from here.

02:55:13.000 Ten seconds, ten seconds.

02:55:14.000 Oh, he pushed it off.

02:55:15.000 He pushed it off.

02:55:16.000 Very nice.

02:55:17.000 You gotta move John to number one now, Joe.

02:55:19.000 That is oil.

02:55:20.000 You gotta move John to number one.

02:55:21.000 Well, it depends on how this plays out, but I see your point now.

02:55:24.000 You've never seen John in trouble like this, ever.

02:55:26.000 Oh, you have in the Gustafson fight.

02:55:28.000 He was in trouble in the Gustafson fight.

02:55:30.000 Not this big of trouble.

02:55:31.000 No, not this big of trouble.

02:55:33.000 Not like this.

02:55:34.000 Not rocked.

02:55:34.000 No, but Vitor Belfort did catch him in an armbar.

02:55:36.000 And what did he do?

02:55:37.000 Had him fully extended.

02:55:38.000 He said, oh, cool.

02:55:39.000 My arm's been extended.

02:55:40.000 Gadoosh! 0.99

02:55:41.000 Here's the thing he didn't do.

02:55:42.000 He didn't tap, which was fucking substantial.

02:55:44.000 A lot of guys.

02:55:45.000 Who's second on your list?

02:55:46.000 I know you like Jon Jones.

02:55:48.000 We know this.

02:55:49.000 Second is Connor Mighty Mouse.

02:55:51.000 Mighty Mouse is probably like four or five for me because of his weight class.

02:55:55.000 He rose on your shit.

02:55:56.000 He rose.

02:55:57.000 That's hard to say, man.

02:55:58.000 Because he was like seven or eight last time we did.

02:56:01.000 Never seven or eight.

02:56:02.000 Never seven or eight.

02:56:03.000 Dude, he rose like a motherfucker and shit.

02:56:05.000 Hell yeah with those fucking counter lefts.

02:56:08.000 Here's what I think about top ten pound for pound.

02:56:10.000 Those kind of bricks where he's just waiting for you.

02:56:14.000 Who's going to take that shit?

02:56:15.000 Let me ask you if you guys agree with me.

02:56:18.000 This is how I feel about when you start talking about top ten pound for pound.

02:56:21.000 My feeling is that it's a fun debate.

02:56:24.000 Correct.

02:56:24.000 And that the reality is you don't really know whether it's number one or number two or number three.

02:56:29.000 Because there's an argument for the girl cyborg. 1.00

02:56:32.000 The girl cyborg?

02:56:33.000 Top five!

02:56:34.000 Yeah, it's totally an argument.

02:56:36.000 Girl cyborg, top five.

02:56:38.000 Look at this.

02:56:38.000 But you've got to look at longevity.

02:56:40.000 You've got to look at somebody who was on top for so long who beat up.

02:56:43.000 Like Anderson Silva did it all.

02:56:44.000 Look at this, man.

02:56:45.000 Look at this.

02:56:46.000 Tim Melviot went karate.

02:56:47.000 Look at this.

02:56:48.000 He went full sideways.

02:56:49.000 Dude, he's so relaxed.

02:56:50.000 It's impressive.

02:56:51.000 Well, he dominated in several moments of that round.

02:56:54.000 But he was doing it in the first round, too, before he was really...

02:56:57.000 That's racist.

02:56:58.000 Is Tim tired is the question.

02:56:59.000 Oh, man, man, man.

02:57:00.000 Look at this.

02:57:01.000 Oh! 0.60

02:57:02.000 He's all relaxed.

02:57:03.000 Damn, look at him.

02:57:03.000 He's standing in front of him.

02:57:04.000 Man, wow, the more relaxed he can stay like that, if he can really avoid shots and turn things into a grappling machine again.

02:57:10.000 Can you imagine if a relaxed was racist?

02:57:12.000 Like, you know, athletic is racist.

02:57:13.000 You're like, he's so relaxed.

02:57:15.000 Dude, that's racist!

02:57:16.000 What are you saying, he's white?

02:57:17.000 Because Mexicans are really relaxed.

02:57:18.000 Because he's white and he's relaxed.

02:57:20.000 You see a Mexican guy?

02:57:21.000 You're stupid.

02:57:22.000 You see Henry Cejudo, you're like, he's so relaxed.

02:57:24.000 That's racist!

02:57:26.000 What are you saying, he's lazy?

02:57:28.000 Yo, dude, people say that about me all the time.

02:57:30.000 If I call Tyron Wood, we'll be explosive.

02:57:33.000 What the fuck else am I supposed to do?

02:57:35.000 That's not racist!

02:57:35.000 Will you just look at him?

02:57:37.000 Can you imagine when smooth becomes racist?

02:57:42.000 Dude, he's smooth.

02:57:43.000 Like, fuck you!

02:57:43.000 Oh shit, look at Timothy.

02:57:45.000 Look at this.

02:57:45.000 That's not a submission there.

02:57:46.000 Fucking smooth.

02:57:47.000 Fuck you, I'm not smooth.

02:57:48.000 What, I was born smooth?

02:57:50.000 Hey, man, you never know, man.

02:57:51.000 His elbow, you look where his bicep is in the ear, it's not going up, it's going down.

02:57:57.000 He's tired.

02:57:58.000 You might not, but look at it.

02:58:00.000 See how his elbow, like, you look where his bicep placement is, his bicep is getting closer and closer to the other.

02:58:06.000 It doesn't matter because he's on the opposite side.

02:58:07.000 You're right, he's in the wrong side.

02:58:08.000 But if a guy's really good at that empty half position...

02:58:12.000 Oh, shit.

02:58:12.000 Oh!

02:58:13.000 Oh, Mighty Mouse takes it back.

02:58:14.000 Oh, Mighty Mouse can take it back like a motherfucker.

02:58:16.000 Oh, shit.

02:58:18.000 Mighty Mouse is no joke.

02:58:19.000 This is some super technical shit.

02:58:22.000 Look at this.

02:58:23.000 That was a nice knee.

02:58:25.000 Defensively and offensively.

02:58:26.000 Oh, he's got it in the neck.

02:58:27.000 Oh, shit.

02:58:28.000 Let's see.

02:58:29.000 Elliot's going to wonder.

02:58:30.000 Look at that.

02:58:30.000 Oh, look at that.

02:58:31.000 Mighty Mouse.

02:58:32.000 Mighty Mouse.

02:58:33.000 Look at that.

02:58:34.000 Holy shit.

02:58:34.000 That's a little arm triangle.

02:58:36.000 That's a fucking chopping block right there.

02:58:38.000 Boom.

02:58:38.000 That's a chopping block right there.

02:58:41.000 Elliott's not even ranked.

02:58:42.000 What are you ranking at?

02:58:42.000 That's a good move right there.

02:58:43.000 If he doesn't win, top five.

02:58:46.000 That's good.

02:58:47.000 He's in a good position.

02:58:50.000 It keeps him from getting in that crucifix, fucking striking crucifix.

02:58:53.000 You know what I mean?

02:58:54.000 Yeah.

02:58:55.000 Because he needs his arm on the other side of his head for that.

02:58:57.000 He smashed him down with those.

02:58:59.000 And now let's see if he can pass.

02:59:01.000 Oh, nice.

02:59:02.000 Elliott's left arm was on the other side of his head.

02:59:05.000 Ooh, that's Khabib shit. 0.99

02:59:07.000 That's Khabib.

02:59:08.000 He's looking for that.

02:59:09.000 That's salivary shit.

02:59:10.000 You can't put your arm on the other side because you're going to get fucked.

02:59:13.000 Oh, look, right there.

02:59:14.000 Right there, I'd go inverted arm bar right away.

02:59:17.000 Oh, yeah, look at this.

02:59:18.000 Look at that, right away.

02:59:19.000 He's always going for something.

02:59:21.000 Always, always.

02:59:22.000 Look at that, nice knee play by Elliot.

02:59:25.000 He got that knee into position.

02:59:26.000 Elliott is a high-level grappler, man.

02:59:28.000 You can see it, man.

02:59:29.000 Super high level.

02:59:30.000 Dude, he's right there.

02:59:31.000 Look at all this shit that's going on right here.

02:59:34.000 It's not about the submission.

02:59:36.000 It's about the wars.

02:59:37.000 Dude, Elliott beat every champion and every weight class in his division.

02:59:41.000 The path of wars before the submission even comes out.

02:59:45.000 That's what's going on.

02:59:46.000 That's what I mean.

02:59:47.000 Not every.

02:59:47.000 There's so many wars going on.

02:59:49.000 Uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh.

02:59:51.000 Look at his arms on the other side.

02:59:53.000 That's a crucifix.

02:59:53.000 He's gonna get out there.

02:59:55.000 But his left arm's fucked.

02:59:57.000 He needs to get his left hand on the other side of his head right there.

02:59:59.000 Once he's there, he's good.

03:00:00.000 He needs to keep it over there.

03:00:02.000 But not that much over there because then you give up a side choke.

03:00:05.000 That's my boy Juan right there.

03:00:06.000 You gotta be the master of keeping it.

03:00:08.000 It looks like he's gonna go for that Kimura. 0.95

03:00:10.000 He's trying to go for that inverted arm bar from the half guard.

03:00:16.000 Oh shit, he's got a good Kimura.

03:00:19.000 That's one move that you really can get from the half guard, right? 1.00

03:00:22.000 Yeah.

03:00:23.000 Especially if you can step over.

03:00:25.000 Matt Hughes vs.

03:00:26.000 Joe Riggs.

03:00:26.000 It all depends on which Kimura you want.

03:00:28.000 If you want an inverted Kimura, you have to be in half guard.

03:00:31.000 If you want the regular Kimura, you could pass and be in side control.

03:00:34.000 But if you're gonna do that inverted one, you can't do it from side control.

03:00:38.000 You have to jump into half guard.

03:00:40.000 Frank Mayer was a master at that.

03:00:42.000 Yeah, it actually helps your position.

03:00:44.000 You have to hold him.

03:00:45.000 You're holding him in half guard.

03:00:47.000 That's really interesting.

03:00:48.000 That's the first time I've ever thought about that.

03:00:50.000 That's like maybe the one position.

03:00:51.000 No, Japanese necktie is the same thing.

03:00:55.000 Japanese necktie is the exact same thing.

03:00:57.000 You want to stay there.

03:00:58.000 Right, you need to let it.

03:00:59.000 Because it locks them down, right, Eddie?

03:01:01.000 Yeah.

03:01:01.000 In the inverted arm bar, it's all about the angle.

03:01:04.000 So you know what?

03:01:05.000 I don't want to pass after all.

03:01:06.000 You know what?

03:01:07.000 We're going to stay in half guard.

03:01:08.000 I don't even want to pass.

03:01:09.000 And even if I was passed, if I went for the inverted arm bar, I would jump in the half guard just to control the hips.

03:01:16.000 Look at this.

03:01:16.000 DJ's taking his back.

03:01:17.000 No, he's not taking his back.

03:01:18.000 Look at this.

03:01:19.000 Elliot wins the position more.

03:01:20.000 Gee, DJ, go for the head kick. 0.99

03:01:22.000 When he had his back standing up.

03:01:23.000 Elliot on top here, DJ, trying to control position.

03:01:26.000 It's one to one, by the way.

03:01:28.000 Wow, this is crazy.

03:01:29.000 Elliot on top again.

03:01:30.000 This is crazy.

03:01:31.000 Elliot got serious grapple.

03:01:34.000 Elliot got serious grapple.

03:01:38.000 That's high level.

03:01:40.000 With the grease and the sweat, that makes it even harder to stay tight and stay controlled shit.

03:01:45.000 To keep position and keep dominant positions and all that grease and sweat and all that Vaseline all over your fucking eyes and all over your back and all over your fucking arms.

03:01:53.000 Keep talking, I'm taking my pants off.

03:01:55.000 Keep fucking talking.

03:01:57.000 Keep going.

03:02:00.000 We said Vaseline, and I'm like, this party's live.

03:02:04.000 This party's live.

03:02:06.000 Impose your will on me.

03:02:07.000 Impose your will on me.

03:02:09.000 Give me some volume, young Jamie.

03:02:11.000 I want to hear some Matt Hume knowledge.

03:02:12.000 You had a sex story.

03:02:14.000 I did.

03:02:17.000 Volume.

03:02:20.000 First time he's lost around.

03:02:21.000 That's music.

03:02:22.000 You don't shoot music.

03:02:23.000 I want to hear what he's saying.

03:02:24.000 That's part of it.

03:02:25.000 Damn it.

03:02:26.000 Ah, fuck.

03:02:27.000 I want to hear Mad Hume advice.

03:02:29.000 Damn, look at him jumping around.

03:02:30.000 Damn, look at him.

03:02:31.000 Look at that cardio.

03:02:32.000 That dude did sprints.

03:02:33.000 It's all about, you guys talking about rounds.

03:02:35.000 I did nine rounds.

03:02:36.000 I did seven rounds.

03:02:37.000 I did eight rounds.

03:02:38.000 I did nine rounds.

03:02:39.000 I did ten rounds.

03:02:40.000 I trained six rounds.

03:02:41.000 And when I train six, it's about fucking sprints.

03:02:44.000 How many times do you run a sprint?

03:02:46.000 When are you doing a sprint?

03:02:48.000 Round three.

03:02:48.000 That's where the cardio's coming, not the rounds you're sparring in.

03:02:51.000 Round three.

03:02:52.000 That's not realistic.

03:02:53.000 It's the fucking sprint.

03:02:55.000 He changes up from southpaw to right.

03:02:56.000 Look at that.

03:02:57.000 If this guy wins and Trump is president, America has gone crazy.

03:03:00.000 Is it their biggest upset in UFC history?

03:03:02.000 Hey, listen.

03:03:03.000 America's gone crazy.

03:03:03.000 Did you vote for Hillary?

03:03:04.000 Callan?

03:03:05.000 I didn't.

03:03:06.000 No!

03:03:06.000 My God!

03:03:07.000 No!

03:03:08.000 No!

03:03:09.000 Not doing this fight!

03:03:09.000 No!

03:03:10.000 Not doing this fight!

03:03:11.000 No!

03:03:12.000 No!

03:03:13.000 Eddie, stop it!

03:03:14.000 We'll come back to it!

03:03:16.000 We'll come back to it!

03:03:17.000 We'll come back to it!

03:03:18.000 No, no!

03:03:18.000 Tell me the truth!

03:03:19.000 No, no, no!

03:03:20.000 Tell me the truth!

03:03:21.000 Eddie, please!

03:03:22.000 Eddie, please!

03:03:23.000 You voted for Hillary!

03:03:24.000 Eddie, please!

03:03:25.000 Eddie, please!

03:03:25.000 Real quick!

03:03:26.000 Eddie, no!

03:03:27.000 Look!

03:03:27.000 It's a fight!

03:03:28.000 It's a fight!

03:03:28.000 Look at this!

03:03:29.000 He's got his back!

03:03:30.000 He's got his back!

03:03:31.000 Oh! 0.60

03:03:31.000 Stop! 0.60

03:03:32.000 Please stop!

03:03:32.000 Eddie, please!

03:03:33.000 Eddie, it's like you're a jiu-jitsu!

03:03:35.000 Please, Eddie, stop.

03:03:36.000 Look at that, Eddie!

03:03:37.000 Please!

03:03:37.000 Eddie, I'm joking.

03:03:38.000 I'm messing with you.

03:03:39.000 Okay, good.

03:03:40.000 Look how he chopped the arm, son.

03:03:42.000 Oh! 0.60

03:03:43.000 Oh, he's covering his nose!

03:03:44.000 You're not allowed to do that, are you?

03:03:47.000 Oh my god, that was close.

03:03:49.000 Oh shit, look at that.

03:03:50.000 Oh! 0.60

03:03:51.000 He's got the neck.

03:03:52.000 Oh, it's out of the neck.

03:03:53.000 Oh shit!

03:03:55.000 Oh, look at these guys.

03:03:57.000 I didn't watch one time.

03:03:58.000 These guys think they're all jujits.

03:04:00.000 Look at his takedown, man.

03:04:01.000 Very nice takedown.

03:04:03.000 Jesus Christ!

03:04:05.000 Look at this.

03:04:06.000 These guys are going back.

03:04:07.000 He's turning it into a grappling match and he looks like he's getting the better of these positions.

03:04:11.000 Oh, he's owning him grappling.

03:04:13.000 Dude.

03:04:14.000 Elliot.

03:04:14.000 This is incredible.

03:04:15.000 Amazing.

03:04:16.000 I wouldn't say that.

03:04:17.000 Oh, shit.

03:04:17.000 No, but look at this.

03:04:19.000 Elliot hangs on.

03:04:20.000 That's some jiu-jitsu and wrestling.

03:04:21.000 He rolled him and Elliot stayed on top the entire time.

03:04:23.000 This is incredible.

03:04:24.000 Look, he's got the leg.

03:04:25.000 He tripped him down.

03:04:27.000 He tripped him down.

03:04:28.000 Tim Elliot wrestled 100%.

03:04:29.000 Oh, shit.

03:04:30.000 This is incredible.

03:04:31.000 Oh, look at this shit.

03:04:32.000 Oh, shit.

03:04:33.000 Oh, he's getting lit up, man.

03:04:34.000 He's getting lit up.

03:04:36.000 This is third round?

03:04:37.000 I've never seen Johnson kind of like, God, what the hell do I do here?

03:04:40.000 Damn, he must have been running sprints.

03:04:42.000 Elliot doesn't get tired.

03:04:43.000 He's a chimp. 1.00

03:04:45.000 He's a chimp. 1.00

03:04:45.000 He's so strong. 1.00

03:04:46.000 Are you kidding?

03:04:47.000 That's racist.

03:04:47.000 That's a really good race.

03:04:48.000 No, it's white.

03:04:49.000 We're lucky he's white. 1.00

03:04:50.000 Elliot is so lucky he's white. 1.00

03:04:51.000 Elliot, he's got simian strength.

03:04:54.000 I didn't say swim sprint.

03:04:55.000 I said regular sprint.

03:04:56.000 Swim, swim sprint is racist.

03:04:57.000 Shit doesn't work on Elliot.

03:04:58.000 Okay, but look at this.

03:04:59.000 Demetrius is on top.

03:05:00.000 He's got that right arm trapped.

03:05:02.000 Looking for that head and arm position.

03:05:04.000 Look at that past.

03:05:05.000 Oh, but not so...

03:05:06.000 Not totally past.

03:05:07.000 Not really past.

03:05:08.000 Oh, captured.

03:05:09.000 Not really past.

03:05:09.000 Elliot looks like he's fueled on meth.

03:05:11.000 Not really past.

03:05:12.000 Because he's white and white trash? 1.00

03:05:13.000 Is that what you're saying?

03:05:15.000 Those stats are off.

03:05:16.000 Truck stuff?

03:05:17.000 The stereotype of white people getting their guard pass, I'm sick of it.

03:05:22.000 And I'm gonna fucking stand up, and right here on the Joe Rogan Experience, I'm not gonna stand for it, okay?

03:05:27.000 And I love Hillary, and we're not...

03:05:29.000 Tim Elliott in this fight, man.

03:05:31.000 White people, Mexicans get passed, what about that? 0.96

03:05:35.000 Black people get passed. 1.00

03:05:36.000 What about that?

03:05:36.000 Let's not get political.

03:05:37.000 I didn't like either one of those candidates.

03:05:38.000 Let's watch this fight.

03:05:39.000 No politics, Brian Callen.

03:05:41.000 Brian, don't engage.

03:05:42.000 I'm not saying anything.

03:05:43.000 I'm watching the fight.

03:05:44.000 Don't engage.

03:05:44.000 This is an amazing fight.

03:05:45.000 This is artistry.

03:05:46.000 This is your protocol.

03:05:47.000 You're a cyborg.

03:05:48.000 This is Battlestar Galactica.

03:05:50.000 Do not engage.

03:05:51.000 The CIA is not real.

03:05:52.000 I was playing.

03:05:53.000 I was playing.

03:05:54.000 I was playing.

03:05:55.000 I was playing.

03:05:56.000 Let's watch the fight.

03:05:57.000 Mighty Mouse on top here, folks.

03:05:59.000 Round three of five.

03:06:00.000 Mighty Mouse looking to pass that guard.

03:06:02.000 He gets over it.

03:06:03.000 No, he didn't.

03:06:04.000 No, he doesn't.

03:06:04.000 No, he didn't.

03:06:04.000 Elliot drags him right back in.

03:06:06.000 Strong guard game.

03:06:07.000 It's tough because Elliot was winning earlier this round.

03:06:09.000 Now he's probably losing.

03:06:10.000 That's racist.

03:06:11.000 Oh, look at this.

03:06:11.000 He keeps throwing those legs up, man.

03:06:13.000 Elliot's not playing games.

03:06:14.000 But Mighty Mouse takes the back.

03:06:16.000 Look at him.

03:06:16.000 He rolls right back into half guard again.

03:06:18.000 Nice.

03:06:19.000 Oh, look at those elbows. 0.94

03:06:21.000 Look how smart he is.

03:06:22.000 He's just throwing elbows.

03:06:23.000 Why not just throw elbows?

03:06:24.000 Look at this.

03:06:25.000 Look at this.

03:06:26.000 Look at this guard with Tansh.

03:06:29.000 Elliot got some serious happening.

03:06:32.000 With Tansh.

03:06:33.000 Happening.

03:06:34.000 He's very good off of his back, I'll tell you that.

03:06:36.000 He's super good defensively.

03:06:37.000 As he gets his guard passed, I apologize.

03:06:40.000 Mighty Mouse Moose.

03:06:41.000 But look at this shit he does right in front of side control.

03:06:43.000 He did this before.

03:06:45.000 He just wraps him up.

03:06:46.000 Eli's my new trader at 125 pounder.

03:06:49.000 Triangles his own arm, traps Mighty Mouse, makes it so Mighty Mouse can't do shit.

03:06:53.000 And Mighty Mouse is almost kind of complaining.

03:06:55.000 Damn, that's a serious move.

03:06:55.000 Like, what did you expect?

03:06:56.000 I'm going to let you loose so you can hit me? 1.00

03:06:58.000 That's a good move.

03:06:58.000 It's great if they stand up.

03:06:59.000 Stand me back up.

03:07:00.000 This is beautiful.

03:07:01.000 Why stand him up?

03:07:02.000 This is a beautiful position.

03:07:03.000 It's a power position too.

03:07:04.000 This is a good position, man.

03:07:06.000 Yeah, great position.

03:07:07.000 That's very interesting.

03:07:08.000 I haven't seen someone do that effectively in a world championship fight.

03:07:11.000 Oh, he lost it, man.

03:07:12.000 He lost it.

03:07:13.000 Let's see if he gets it back.

03:07:14.000 Look at this.

03:07:14.000 Look at that.

03:07:15.000 That's a reverse triangle right there.

03:07:17.000 That kid doesn't have an arm, man.

03:07:18.000 All that grease on the ball head.

03:07:20.000 Forget about that shit.

03:07:20.000 He's moving many steps ahead too, though.

03:07:23.000 You don't think that's a factor?

03:07:24.000 The ball head and the grease?

03:07:25.000 Come on, man.

03:07:26.000 For sure.

03:07:27.000 Dude, get out of here. 1.00

03:07:28.000 If he would've just had a nice fuckin' Brendan Schraub, little fuckin'...

03:07:34.000 Or Shaw.

03:07:35.000 Clay Guida.

03:07:36.000 Or a little Brian Callen?

03:07:38.000 Yes.

03:07:38.000 Yeah.

03:07:39.000 He would've been fucked.

03:07:40.000 Dude, this is crazy.

03:07:41.000 This is only the third round, right?

03:07:42.000 Yes.

03:07:43.000 That's a great fight.

03:07:44.000 We've got ten minutes left, boys.

03:07:45.000 Elliot is up.

03:07:46.000 He just is winning, by the way.

03:07:48.000 Okay, that's nice, Brian.

03:07:49.000 Was that the third round?

03:07:49.000 Jesus Christ, you got to rub it in my face?

03:07:52.000 Or was that the fourth round?

03:07:53.000 Third round or fourth round?

03:07:55.000 That was the third.

03:07:56.000 That was the third.

03:07:57.000 It's 2-1.

03:07:58.000 This is a great fight.

03:07:58.000 Mighty Mouse.

03:07:59.000 Great fight.

03:07:59.000 But here's a good thing.

03:08:00.000 A lot of people thought this was a wash.

03:08:02.000 They thought that Tim Elliott was out of his league.

03:08:05.000 This guy.

03:08:06.000 I'll be the first to admit it.

03:08:07.000 We're looking at a great fight.

03:08:09.000 So, all bullshit aside, we're joking around here, and if you listen to anything that we say tonight, and you think, oh my god, their opinions are so fucked up, we're intoxicated, and we're not serious.

03:08:19.000 So, you need to know, like, if you're looking at the actual fight itself, this is a great, great fight, and Tim Elliott deserves all the respect in the world.

03:08:27.000 He should be ranked in the top five.

03:08:28.000 Even if he loses this fight, I'm not saying he's gonna lose, but if he does, you have to rank him in the top five.

03:08:33.000 It's an amazing performance.

03:08:34.000 You can't change your stance now, it's too late.

03:08:36.000 You can't change your stance in the middle of the fight.

03:08:38.000 It's amazing performance, man.

03:08:39.000 I'm just saying, my mouse isn't pound for pound number one anyway.

03:08:41.000 Well, you are based on what you've seen, like the results inside the octagon.

03:08:47.000 That's who you are.

03:08:48.000 And you've got to add this in.

03:08:49.000 You have to add this in.

03:08:50.000 And in this fight, he's getting dominated in ground exchanges by Tim Mellion.

03:08:54.000 By a guy who's not ranked in the top.

03:08:56.000 15?

03:08:56.000 Right.

03:08:56.000 You have to add that in.

03:08:58.000 If you want to be objective, you have to add that in.

03:09:00.000 So then you'd have to look at him.

03:09:01.000 You'd have to, like, who are the other guys besides Dominick Cruz?

03:09:04.000 And Dominick Cruz, of course, you're really only doing it based on his past record, the TJ victory, and then the domination over Uriah Faber, right?

03:09:11.000 Yeah, he's not active enough.

03:09:12.000 You'd want to wait until Cody and him fight.

03:09:15.000 Damn, it's fourth round, man.

03:09:16.000 Other than them, who else is in the running other than John?

03:09:20.000 Damn, look at Elliot.

03:09:21.000 The way he's holding his hands.

03:09:23.000 That's the new great white hope right there. 0.91

03:09:25.000 Who else is white? 0.85

03:09:26.000 Look at this!

03:09:28.000 Brian Callen, you know.

03:09:30.000 Karate shit.

03:09:31.000 Joe, here's one for you.

03:09:32.000 Look at this.

03:09:34.000 The highest white guys in MMA. Michael Bisping.

03:09:36.000 The highest ranked white guys in the UFC. You should fucking know. 0.85

03:09:42.000 Joe, here's a close up for you.

03:09:44.000 Guys, we can't talk over each other.

03:09:47.000 White guy.

03:09:48.000 Conor McGregor.

03:09:48.000 Done.

03:09:49.000 End of discussions.

03:09:50.000 White as fuck. 0.98

03:09:51.000 Michael Bisping.

03:09:53.000 Number one white guy in the UFC. American white guy.

03:09:55.000 Gellishaw?

03:09:56.000 Gellishaw?

03:09:56.000 No.

03:09:57.000 Well, no.

03:09:58.000 Number one white guy.

03:09:59.000 Stipe, you fucks!

03:10:00.000 Jesus Christ.

03:10:01.000 That's a Russian.

03:10:02.000 That's a Russian.

03:10:02.000 No, he's not.

03:10:03.000 He's born in Cleveland.

03:10:04.000 Born in Cleveland.

03:10:05.000 He's Croatian.

03:10:06.000 What's his name?

03:10:07.000 No, he's from Cleveland.

03:10:07.000 What's his name?

03:10:08.000 Stipe Miocic.

03:10:09.000 What's his name?

03:10:12.000 What was that?

03:10:13.000 He's from Cleveland.

03:10:14.000 Born and raised.

03:10:15.000 Okay, he was born there, but what's his name?

03:10:17.000 We're all immigrants.

03:10:18.000 Hey, you fucking drunks.

03:10:19.000 You're racist.

03:10:20.000 I'm talking about the highest white guy in the UFC. He's not the highest white guy. 0.63

03:10:27.000 What are you talking about?

03:10:28.000 He's the heavyweight champion of the world.

03:10:29.000 He can kill all of them.

03:10:30.000 Dana White.

03:10:30.000 Look, classically, the heavyweight has always been the guy who could beat everybody below him.

03:10:34.000 Is there any other white guy, American white guy, who holds a belt? 0.59

03:10:38.000 Eddie Bravo, please.

03:10:39.000 They don't have white weight classes because the small guy is too fast for the big guy.

03:10:43.000 They have weight classes because the big guy is too big for the small guy.

03:10:46.000 Is there another white guy that holds a belt in the UFC? Answer me that.

03:10:52.000 American white guy.

03:10:54.000 Oh, look at this!

03:10:56.000 DJ's got his back!

03:10:57.000 It's over, son.

03:10:58.000 Oh, man.

03:10:59.000 Good fight, Tim Elliott.

03:11:00.000 That game's over.

03:11:01.000 Tim Elliott gave a great run.

03:11:02.000 Not necessarily there.

03:11:03.000 If he can hand fight.

03:11:04.000 If he can hand fight.

03:11:05.000 Is he smiling?

03:11:07.000 It's not over.

03:11:08.000 Tim Elliott is far from over.

03:11:10.000 Look, he doesn't even have that right hook.

03:11:12.000 Far from over.

03:11:13.000 God!

03:11:14.000 Damn it!

03:11:14.000 Tim Elliott!

03:11:15.000 He wasn't even close!

03:11:16.000 He's my fucking hero!

03:11:17.000 He's such a badass.

03:11:18.000 He didn't even have the right hook.

03:11:19.000 What a badass.

03:11:20.000 Oh my god.

03:11:21.000 Human will.

03:11:22.000 He's a good niece to the shoulders in the back, man.

03:11:25.000 I like that.

03:11:26.000 I like how you guys went silent when you couldn't name another American white guy with a belt.

03:11:31.000 Dominic Cruz.

03:11:32.000 That guy's from San Diego.

03:11:34.000 He's Mexican.

03:11:35.000 No, he's born in America.

03:11:36.000 He's Mexican.

03:11:37.000 Dominic Cruz is Mexican?

03:11:38.000 Yes.

03:11:39.000 But he's American.

03:11:40.000 What is his last name?

03:11:42.000 Am I Italian or am I American?

03:11:44.000 Am I German?

03:11:45.000 Am I German?

03:11:46.000 Schaub? 0.90

03:11:47.000 Schaub is German.

03:11:49.000 Look at this.

03:11:49.000 It's hot.

03:11:50.000 DJ on top.

03:11:51.000 DJ on top.

03:11:52.000 Crucifix.

03:11:53.000 Where's that right arm?

03:11:55.000 It's on the wrong side of that head.

03:11:57.000 I hate that goddamn crucifix.

03:11:59.000 Look at that right arm.

03:12:00.000 It's on the wrong side of the head.

03:12:01.000 You can't have it on that side ever.

03:12:03.000 It's always got a frame, goddammit.

03:12:06.000 You gotta have that frame.

03:12:07.000 Look at him answering back.

03:12:08.000 Which arm are you talking about, Eddie?

03:12:10.000 Well, he's good now.

03:12:11.000 Yeah, but what were you talking about?

03:12:13.000 Like, if you could describe it, if you could break down that position.

03:12:15.000 His left arm needs to be on Demetrius Johnson's left shoulder, on the left side of his neck.

03:12:24.000 To push him away.

03:12:25.000 Oh, shit.

03:12:26.000 I'm fucked up right now.

03:12:27.000 I'm sorry.

03:12:50.000 If his left arm is on the other side of Demetrius head, That's a bad spot.

03:12:54.000 That's where he's going to get that cushion.

03:12:55.000 So he's got to keep it on this side.

03:12:57.000 So he's got to frame him off.

03:12:58.000 Just always frame him.

03:12:59.000 Just frame.

03:13:00.000 It's the frame.

03:13:01.000 You don't want to go on the other side.

03:13:03.000 Do you like this darts?

03:13:04.000 Do you ever hit that darts from when guys pass into your side control?

03:13:07.000 Do you ever let guys out of half guard into side control to catch that darts?

03:13:11.000 You know what?

03:13:12.000 In this situation, it's super technical.

03:13:13.000 What I would do, I can't just say what I would do.

03:13:16.000 No, no, that's not what I'm asking.

03:13:17.000 I'm not asking right here, but I'm asking, do you like, guys?

03:13:20.000 Do you know that Jeff Glover, he loves that position?

03:13:23.000 Oh, look at that.

03:13:23.000 Oh, step over.

03:13:24.000 It's nasty.

03:13:26.000 No, he's got his arms straight.

03:13:28.000 Defending.

03:13:28.000 He's okay.

03:13:29.000 If he bends that.

03:13:30.000 Uh-oh.

03:13:31.000 Oh, it doesn't look good.

03:13:33.000 It's bad news.

03:13:34.000 It doesn't look good.

03:13:34.000 No, he's squirting away.

03:13:35.000 Oh, shit, he decided to go armbar.

03:13:38.000 Oh! 0.60

03:13:39.000 He's out!

03:13:41.000 Tim Elliott for president!

03:13:43.000 He should have stuck with that tomorrow.

03:13:45.000 White power. 0.98

03:13:47.000 Say it.

03:13:48.000 Say it, Chob. 0.95

03:13:50.000 It's obvious.

03:13:51.000 Based on all the Nazis. 0.92

03:13:52.000 Oh my god, Nazis are so amazing. 1.00

03:13:55.000 They invented gas that kills the Nazis. 0.87

03:13:57.000 I fucking love it.

03:13:57.000 Guys, this fucking fight's crazy.

03:13:59.000 It's crazy.

03:14:00.000 He just cartwheel kicked him.

03:14:01.000 Eddie, Callan liked the Nazis, remember? 0.92

03:14:04.000 You did.

03:14:04.000 Joe, here's serious questions.

03:14:06.000 Here's German.

03:14:06.000 Here's Callan.

03:14:07.000 Joe, serious question.

03:14:08.000 Callan likes Jews. 0.88

03:14:09.000 Here's a question for you.

03:14:10.000 Callan's on the Jew side. 0.83

03:14:12.000 You voted for Hillary.

03:14:13.000 You Let Brandon talk for a second.

03:14:15.000 After the fight politics.

03:14:18.000 Here's one that no one talks about, but they should.

03:14:20.000 Michael Bisping, pound for pound top.

03:14:22.000 Think of the guys he's lost to.

03:14:23.000 Think of the guys he's beat.

03:14:24.000 He's champ now.

03:14:26.000 He's the most wins in the UFC. He's great, but he's also been fighting a long time, but he's also lost handedly, whereas Anderson Silva's lost once.

03:14:36.000 Who's...

03:14:38.000 Yeah, when he was 40!

03:14:39.000 What do you mean when he was 40?

03:14:40.000 Doesn't matter.

03:14:42.000 Who has Bisping lost to?

03:14:43.000 Are you telling me that Bisping... 0.55

03:14:45.000 He has more wins than Anderson Silva.

03:14:48.000 He's the champ right now.

03:14:50.000 Well, it's not a bad barometer either.

03:14:52.000 He's a champ right now?

03:14:53.000 He makes a good point.

03:14:55.000 People deny it based on bad experiences that he had inside the Octagon.

03:15:00.000 But his best experience inside the Octagon was the Luke Rockhold fight, which is goddamn spectacular.

03:15:05.000 Knocked him out.

03:15:05.000 Knocked him out in one round.

03:15:06.000 But he also got completely demolished the first fight.

03:15:09.000 He got beat by Chia Sonnen.

03:15:11.000 He got beat by a guy.

03:15:14.000 Kellen, in your boy's defense, he just said the most brilliant thing ever.

03:15:20.000 He said, who's the champ right now?

03:15:23.000 Can you imagine how hard it would be to be the champ right now at one fucking 85?

03:15:30.000 Eddie, please, this fight is going on.

03:15:31.000 Let's watch this fight.

03:15:33.000 He's the fucking champ right now.

03:15:35.000 Guys, this fight's going on.

03:15:36.000 It's really good.

03:15:37.000 And it's the last round.

03:15:38.000 It's good.

03:15:38.000 He gets him!

03:15:41.000 He shot in for the takedown and he got him down!

03:15:44.000 Dude, Elliot's a beast.

03:15:45.000 Are you kidding me?

03:15:46.000 This is incredible.

03:15:47.000 This is round five, son, and Elliot's on top.

03:15:49.000 That's crazy.

03:15:50.000 Mighty Mouse trying to roll to an armbar.

03:15:52.000 Denied.

03:15:53.000 Is anyone else rooting for Tim Elliot?

03:15:55.000 Is anyone else kind of rooting for that?

03:15:56.000 I told you.

03:15:57.000 I knew you were all white-powered up. 0.61

03:15:59.000 Damn!

03:16:00.000 I was hoping I was wrong.

03:16:02.000 I don't even see color.

03:16:04.000 I don't even know who's black or white.

03:16:05.000 Is that what that is?

03:16:06.000 He's got his fucking army.

03:16:07.000 Is that Hitler's shit?

03:16:08.000 Oh yeah, bro.

03:16:09.000 I'm literally so unprejudiced I can't tell who's black or white.

03:16:13.000 How do you know if you're in a red state?

03:16:15.000 You know me?

03:16:16.000 I don't care if no one's green or purple or orange.

03:16:19.000 I fucking don't care if they're fucking beige.

03:16:24.000 Or green or fucking magenta?

03:16:27.000 Guys, please, there's a couple minutes left.

03:16:29.000 Three minutes left.

03:16:30.000 Let's watch the fight.

03:16:31.000 Eddie Bravo, three minutes left.

03:16:33.000 Let's watch this fight.

03:16:35.000 You should've thought about that before you get a mouth off.

03:16:37.000 Demetrius still in control.

03:16:38.000 It looks like he just wants to watch TV right now, right?

03:16:42.000 Doesn't it look like he wants to watch Netflix?

03:16:44.000 Look at him!

03:16:45.000 Demetrius has dominated, has controlled him, Elliot.

03:16:49.000 But Elliot's been...

03:16:50.000 I don't think it's more of a control.

03:16:51.000 I think it's more of like he's just trying to be who he wants to be.

03:16:56.000 Good God, Eddie.

03:16:58.000 Oh my God.

03:16:59.000 We've got to find out what's the amount that turns you into a gremlin.

03:17:03.000 Yeah, which part?

03:17:04.000 What's the matter of food after midnight?

03:17:07.000 You know what?

03:17:07.000 I did dump a shitload of water into his glass.

03:17:10.000 You want to go up?

03:17:11.000 We can go up.

03:17:11.000 I'm being fucking tame right now.

03:17:13.000 You are.

03:17:14.000 No, when this fight's over, I want you to release the fucking gremlins. 0.85

03:17:17.000 Release the tech planet gremlin.

03:17:20.000 Once this fight's over, I'm waiting for that.

03:17:23.000 I'm gonna keep my mouth shut.

03:17:25.000 I'm gonna keep my mouth shut.

03:17:26.000 I think to all of us, it seems like all of us are talking over everybody.

03:17:31.000 We need to stop this.

03:17:32.000 I got this ball.

03:17:32.000 We can talk about anything in a moment.

03:17:34.000 Let's just watch the last two and a half minutes of this fight. 0.94

03:17:36.000 Let's try that.

03:17:37.000 Two and a half minutes.

03:17:38.000 Let's be civilized.

03:17:38.000 Shut the fuck up, guys.

03:17:39.000 Let's just watch this shit.

03:17:41.000 I'm with Joe.

03:17:42.000 I'm with Joe.

03:17:43.000 You guys on some other shit.

03:17:44.000 I'm trying to watch these fights.

03:17:45.000 Now's when you should shut the fuck up. 0.82

03:17:48.000 We got, what the fuck is, this is like Romero Duran versus Aaron Pryor.

03:17:52.000 Holy shit.

03:17:53.000 Look at these, passing on the left, hops over, Mighty Mouse.

03:17:57.000 This is some...

03:17:58.000 Oh, look at this.

03:17:59.000 Look at this shit.

03:18:00.000 Demelia gets that knee back in play again. 0.97

03:18:02.000 Look at that, some half guard. 1.00

03:18:04.000 This is like real shit going on right here.

03:18:06.000 People are like, oh, they're just trying to buttfuck each other.

03:18:09.000 No, they're trying to grapple each other.

03:18:12.000 It has nothing to do with...

03:18:14.000 Reproduction.

03:18:15.000 It has nothing to do with that.

03:18:17.000 It's going to be interesting because for Mighty Mouse, you know, he was putting Elliot in danger more than Elliot was putting him in danger other than that one time.

03:18:25.000 Yeah, just that one time.

03:18:27.000 Oh, Mighty Mouse is winning this fight.

03:18:30.000 That's racist.

03:18:31.000 Come on, man.

03:18:32.000 That's reverse.

03:18:33.000 That's reverse racism.

03:18:34.000 He's going for it again.

03:18:36.000 Eddie Bravo, what's he doing wrong here?

03:18:38.000 Oh, shit.

03:18:39.000 He's not doing anything wrong right here.

03:18:40.000 Look how he's got control of that wrist.

03:18:42.000 If he just really puts all this weight on his hand instead of the wrist, that's even better.

03:18:46.000 But he lost control right here.

03:18:48.000 He tried to switch hands, it looks like.

03:18:50.000 In that position, when you pin that hand down, a lot of people like to pin that wrist down.

03:18:54.000 It's better to fucking grab that hand.

03:18:56.000 Because when you grab that hand and you pin it down, they can't move that arm at all.

03:19:00.000 It's like a tremendous difference.

03:19:03.000 Oh, shit.

03:19:04.000 He rips his arm out.

03:19:06.000 Look at that, Elliot going towards the Kimura.

03:19:08.000 Oh, shit.

03:19:09.000 Look at this.

03:19:10.000 Elliot got some serious grappling.

03:19:14.000 Dude, how about to find Mighty Mouse's opponent?

03:19:15.000 They have to do the ultimate fighter.

03:19:18.000 Oh, he turns it around.

03:19:19.000 Oh, my God!

03:19:19.000 He's out.

03:19:20.000 Oh, shit.

03:19:21.000 No, he's not out.

03:19:22.000 This is crazy.

03:19:23.000 Look at this.

03:19:23.000 This is incredible.

03:19:24.000 Mighty Mouse is going for it.

03:19:27.000 Oh, full guard, butterfly, double underhooks.

03:19:30.000 Where is he going to go?

03:19:30.000 Is he going to go full guard from here?

03:19:32.000 Is he going to keep those underhooks?

03:19:33.000 What is he going to do?

03:19:35.000 Oh, he's going to go to full guard from here.

03:19:36.000 Look, he's got the feet up on the hips.

03:19:38.000 But he's letting an underhook go. 0.83

03:19:40.000 So we'll see what he wants.

03:19:42.000 Okay, he changed everything now.

03:19:43.000 Okay, so now he's got...

03:19:45.000 Okay.

03:19:46.000 At these points, how hard...

03:19:47.000 There's so much game from here.

03:19:49.000 I mean, there's like, where are you going?

03:19:50.000 Where are you going?

03:19:51.000 It's a whole different game from here.

03:19:52.000 You get energy when you know there's only a minute left, though.

03:19:54.000 Yeah, but this is like a few seconds.

03:19:56.000 A grueling fight.

03:19:59.000 You gotta wonder.

03:20:00.000 This is so technical.

03:20:02.000 Keeping that top half position.

03:20:03.000 Damn.

03:20:04.000 Damn.

03:20:05.000 It's gonna go over with him with double X-lock here.

03:20:07.000 If he can't block his hands, it's set.

03:20:09.000 If he would've went to the Damien Maia strategy, just straight up, forget the Kimura, forget the armbar, let's just get the top half, and then get knee free, and then go to three-point world.

03:20:20.000 Elliot, win or lose is a winner in that fight, because now fans are like, holy shit, this guy's legit.

03:20:24.000 I 100% agree.

03:20:25.000 Yep.

03:20:26.000 It's a win-win for him.

03:20:28.000 You gotta rank him in the top five, Cheeto Fingers.

03:20:30.000 Don't lose my number.

03:20:31.000 That's my new thing.

03:20:31.000 I'm going positive.

03:20:32.000 Yeah, me too.

03:20:33.000 Don't lose my number.

03:20:34.000 I want to be positive too now.

03:20:36.000 That's so stupid.

03:20:36.000 I'm a positive guy, Joe.

03:20:38.000 Wait a minute.

03:20:38.000 What do you got winning?

03:20:39.000 Don't lose my number.

03:20:39.000 How about here's my number?

03:20:41.000 What do you got winning?

03:20:42.000 Here's my number, Tim.

03:20:43.000 Statements that mean nothing.

03:20:44.000 Let's stay friends.

03:20:45.000 Don't lose my number.

03:20:46.000 Let's stay friends.

03:20:47.000 Don't lose my number.

03:20:49.000 Let's stay friends.

03:20:49.000 What do you guys got winning?

03:20:51.000 Call me a lot.

03:20:52.000 Mighty Mouse all day.

03:20:53.000 Call me anytime.

03:20:55.000 Yeah, Mighty Mouse, 100%.

03:20:56.000 Boy, I gotta be honest with you.

03:20:57.000 I was talking a lot of shit during that fight and barely paying attention to 80% of it.

03:21:01.000 Mighty Mouse, 100%.

03:21:01.000 Controlled Elliot the entire fight.

03:21:03.000 He was in trouble in the early rounds, but he definitely controlled the fight.

03:21:05.000 Controlled him the whole fight.

03:21:06.000 That's racist.

03:21:06.000 Well, if I looked at moments where it looked like he was getting the better of it, I would give him the advantage, but there was definitely a few moments.

03:21:13.000 It was a competitive fight.

03:21:14.000 Four to one.

03:21:15.000 Hell yeah.

03:21:15.000 No, no, seriously.

03:21:17.000 Whether he won or lost or whoever, whatever, Was that the toughest challenge for Demetrius Johnson?

03:21:24.000 So far as champion, 100%.

03:21:25.000 Was it?

03:21:26.000 Or the second or three?

03:21:27.000 Well, John Moraga cracked him.

03:21:28.000 Number one?

03:21:28.000 Number two?

03:21:29.000 Number three?

03:21:29.000 Was he number one?

03:21:30.000 True, but then he submitted him.

03:21:31.000 Who was number one?

03:21:32.000 Was this number one?

03:21:33.000 Yeah.

03:21:33.000 Number one challenger.

03:21:35.000 Right?

03:21:35.000 Moraga put him in the worst position.

03:21:37.000 Did his rematch.

03:21:38.000 Rematch on this right away.

03:21:39.000 That'll be a fucking nice pay-per-view.

03:21:41.000 It's four rounds to one, though, in this fight.

03:21:42.000 Ultimately, he won.

03:21:43.000 Yeah, he still won.

03:21:44.000 He won the first round.

03:21:45.000 Whatever.

03:21:46.000 He wins.

03:21:46.000 He wins, but it's just like Rocky won.

03:21:49.000 Rocky won.

03:21:50.000 Apollo wins.

03:21:52.000 But Rocky fucking put on a...

03:21:54.000 135?

03:21:54.000 Yeah, there's no fights for him.

03:21:56.000 He needs to go up and fight Cruz.

03:21:58.000 And they fought before.

03:22:00.000 Who won that?

03:22:01.000 You gotta wonder.

03:22:03.000 At this stage in a guy's career, how many challenges does he have other than Elliott?

03:22:11.000 That'd be zero.

03:22:13.000 Well, he's got Benavidez now.

03:22:15.000 Benavidez beat Cejudo.

03:22:17.000 I think Cejudo would be different the second time.

03:22:20.000 Do them again.

03:22:21.000 But you can't do Cejudo now because Benavidez just won.

03:22:25.000 So you'd have Benavidez fighting again.

03:22:27.000 Cejudo's always going to be the mix because that was a close fight.

03:22:30.000 If you're Mighty Mouse, you're like, no.

03:22:31.000 That was no domination with Benavidez and Cejudo.

03:22:34.000 Cejudo's in the mix.

03:22:36.000 He's right there at the top.

03:22:37.000 He's going to improve.

03:22:38.000 It's two losses in a row.

03:22:39.000 I know, but I know for a fact, 100% for a fact, Cejudo, he is improving on a daily basis, and that's what he's about.

03:22:48.000 Let's check this out.

03:22:48.000 Here it goes.

03:22:49.000 Yeah, but it's...

03:22:50.000 Eddie Bravo.

03:22:52.000 Eddie Bravo, who won?

03:22:53.000 I'm going to say the African-American.

03:22:55.000 49-46.

03:22:56.000 Brian Callen?

03:22:57.000 Mighty Mouse.

03:22:58.000 Mighty Mouse, of course.

03:23:00.000 100%.

03:23:00.000 I'm non-committal.

03:23:01.000 Still.

03:23:02.000 Of course.

03:23:02.000 Of course he won.

03:23:03.000 It's not even a question.

03:23:04.000 Yeah, no.

03:23:05.000 I'm not surprised.

03:23:05.000 Controlled him the whole fight.

03:23:06.000 However, I did not want to speak because I know I wasn't paying attention to at least 30% of that fight.

03:23:12.000 No.

03:23:12.000 He won.

03:23:12.000 He won, but Elliot...

03:23:13.000 Interesting.

03:23:14.000 I'm not as logical as you are.

03:23:15.000 Elliot fought a hell of a fight, and Elliot is as tough as a human being gets.

03:23:18.000 I want to hear what John Anik asks him.

03:23:21.000 Was it your toughest fight?

03:23:22.000 Look how good he's been.

03:23:23.000 Crank this up.

03:23:24.000 John, listen.

03:23:26.000 Listen.

03:23:32.000 So good.

03:23:37.000 Powerful sponsors.

03:23:39.000 Look how professional it is.

03:23:42.000 There's no waivers.

03:23:43.000 There's no stutters.

03:23:44.000 Watch.

03:23:48.000 Huh.

03:23:58.000 Dude, that's fucking perfect.

03:24:00.000 He's so good.

03:24:01.000 He's like, he's killing it.

03:24:11.000 Damn, he had him in a fucking dars.

03:24:13.000 Yeah, a dars and a guillotine, right? 1.00

03:24:16.000 What a champ.

03:24:17.000 If that would have been Geo, should Geo put that in?

03:24:20.000 What's next?

03:24:20.000 I hope you ask him what's next.

03:24:21.000 That's never coming out.

03:24:32.000 John Anik is very smooth at this job.

03:24:34.000 Yeah, he's a beast.

03:24:35.000 Yeah, he's a pro.

03:24:36.000 He's like...

03:24:37.000 No big deal.

03:24:40.000 He's gotten better at that shit, too.

03:24:43.000 Listen to the crowd.

03:24:47.000 They love him.

03:24:49.000 How can you not?

03:24:50.000 I like John Anik, man.

03:24:51.000 Powerful mustache.

03:24:51.000 Let's see what he's saying.

03:24:52.000 Look at this guy.

03:24:53.000 Who the fuck is that?

03:24:54.000 Is that Buzz Aldrin?

03:24:55.000 It's his dad, bro.

03:24:55.000 It's his dad.

03:24:56.000 Oh, shit.

03:24:57.000 Okay.

03:24:57.000 Man, I'm just ready to get back to the next one.

03:24:59.000 For that first round, how close do you think you were to realize when you got to the flyweight title?

03:25:03.000 Man, I know I've been there with anybody.

03:25:04.000 I can compete.

03:25:06.000 Even this fight, even though I was down when the time ran out.

03:25:11.000 Jesus Christ.

03:25:12.000 Relax.

03:25:13.000 He just went if it's a fight to the death.

03:25:15.000 Look at him.

03:25:16.000 He's ready to go.

03:25:16.000 He's not even tired.

03:25:17.000 He can go another five rounds.

03:25:19.000 Guys, I think he's serious.

03:25:21.000 He's 100% serious.

03:25:23.000 I was on board until you said that.

03:25:26.000 That's a very humble way of approaching it.

03:25:29.000 Yeah, John Anik does a great fucking job, man.

03:25:31.000 The play-by-play guys, John, always would do, overall, would crush.

03:25:36.000 Can you remember if there was a competition, who's going to do post-fight interviews?

03:25:40.000 Play-by-play guys or color guys?

03:25:44.000 The play-by-play guys would crush!

03:25:47.000 The color guys, when it comes to thinking on your goddamn feet, play-by-play guys, you need those guys.

03:25:53.000 Because the post-fight interviews, it got all fucked up because of you.

03:25:58.000 Because you were so good at, you were the color guy, and you could do the play-by-play shit.

03:26:02.000 You were just fucking slaying dragons.

03:26:05.000 Other promoters thought that you get the color guy to go into the cage and do the post-fight interviews.

03:26:12.000 And they all are terrible because that's the hardest thing to do, the post-fight interviews.

03:26:16.000 You've got 30 seconds to come up with a question that's going to be on TV and it's got to be the best question ever.

03:26:22.000 The play-by-play guy is always going to crush the color guy. 1.00

03:26:25.000 Those dudes are professional broadcasters, traffic cops.

03:26:30.000 Boom! 0.99

03:26:30.000 And just lay it down. 0.99

03:26:31.000 You know what I mean?

03:26:33.000 My guy for EBI, TJ DeSantis, holy shit.

03:26:37.000 I was a guest commentator and he was a play-by-play guy.

03:26:41.000 I looked over at TJ and I'm like, you want to fucking work for EBI? Holy shit.

03:26:47.000 He was like Mike Goldberg.

03:26:49.000 TJ DeSantis?

03:26:51.000 TJ's a beast.

03:26:52.000 Are you kidding?

03:26:53.000 He goes up there like a coral belt.

03:26:55.000 Smart dude.

03:26:55.000 Coral belt.

03:26:56.000 He's always been nice to me.

03:26:57.000 He'll just grab a mic and go, let's do a piece right now.

03:26:59.000 Let me fucking ask you a couple questions.

03:27:01.000 He's a nice guy.

03:27:01.000 He goes out of his way to do pieces in front of the camera.

03:27:05.000 He's so confident.

03:27:06.000 He's like putting shit together.

03:27:07.000 He goes, let's do another piece with this guy.

03:27:08.000 He's a podcast wizard too.

03:27:10.000 Dude, are you kidding me?

03:27:11.000 That guy is fucking incredible.

03:27:14.000 Shout out to TJ. I like TJ. I love TJ to death.

03:27:16.000 Pop with shout outs.

03:27:17.000 His podcast is filled with shout outs.

03:27:18.000 Old wrestling coaches.

03:27:20.000 High school wrestling coaches.

03:27:21.000 TJ DeSantis.

03:27:22.000 Hitler from Bryan. 0.89

03:27:23.000 He's the play-by-play guy.

03:27:25.000 Bryan shout out Hitler.

03:27:26.000 I feel like I had a good story that I totally forgot now.

03:27:28.000 Yeah, you were like, oh, another one.

03:27:29.000 I appreciate that.

03:27:31.000 Dude, I would love it.

03:27:32.000 I appreciate that.

03:27:33.000 Great defeat.

03:27:34.000 Hell yeah.

03:27:34.000 By Jesus.

03:27:35.000 Jesus took that.

03:27:36.000 Jesus.

03:27:36.000 Meanwhile, she probably just got to senior year.

03:27:40.000 A shout-out to my boy, Joe Rogan.

03:27:41.000 Let's just all talk together.

03:27:42.000 A shout-out to my boy, Joe Rogan.

03:27:44.000 Who has been getting such important people on his podcast, like Jordan B. Peterson.

03:27:49.000 Is he one of the mainstream guys that you're into?

03:27:51.000 No.

03:27:51.000 Are you into that?

03:27:52.000 No, he's not.

03:27:53.000 If you're into it, go out of one's head.

03:27:54.000 No, no, you'd love it.

03:27:55.000 Eddie!

03:27:56.000 If it's scientific and you're into it, Eddie, he voted for Hillary.

03:28:00.000 Of course he did.

03:28:01.000 Of course he did.

03:28:01.000 I gotta go to the Comedy Store.

03:28:02.000 I love you guys.

03:28:04.000 Thanks for coming out, everybody.

03:28:06.000 Thanks for listening to the show.

03:28:08.000 Eddie Bravo on Twitter.

03:28:10.000 Eddie Bravo 10 on Instagram.

03:28:12.000 Are we done?

03:28:13.000 Yeah, we gotta go.

03:28:15.000 Brian Callan with a Y, B-R-Y-A-N Callan, Brendan Schaub.

03:28:20.000 Come see me this weekend!

03:28:21.000 Don't call him Brandon like Eddie Bravo, even though he's known him for a fucking decade.

03:28:26.000 I don't even know my own student.

03:28:28.000 Snape! 0.99

03:28:29.000 I don't even know about Pacific West Tour!

03:28:31.000 T-Fact K is now free of the Fox and Billupel cords.

03:28:35.000 They're out there.

03:28:37.000 Gio Martinez!

03:28:38.000 Gio Martinez!

03:28:39.000 Gio Martinez!

03:28:41.000 Powerful shout out to Gio.

03:28:43.000 EBI, best grappling fucking tournaments on the planet Earth.

03:28:47.000 EBI 10, son.

03:28:48.000 Watch out on UFC Fight Pass, son.

03:28:51.000 Good night.

03:28:51.000 See you next week or a couple of days.

03:28:53.000 Bye.

03:28:54.000 You crazy fucks.

The Joe Rogan Experience - December 04, 2016

Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - December 3, 2016

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