The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - February 6, 2016

00:00:03.000 They're the best jeans I've ever worn.

00:00:07.000 I don't want to get paid for them.

00:00:09.000 We live?

00:00:10.000 We live.

00:00:11.000 Ladies and motherfucking gentlemen, this is a fight companion podcast.

00:00:14.000 What that means is we're watching the fights.

00:00:16.000 This was supposed to be the heavyweight title fight, and that was supposed to be in Vegas.

00:00:20.000 It was supposed to be Fabrizio Verdun versus Cain Velasquez, but Cain Velasquez got hurt, and he pulled out of the fight, and then Stipe Miocic replaced him, and then Verdun said, well, I'm hurt too.

00:00:30.000 Fuck this.

00:00:31.000 And he pulled out, because I guess he had a couple of injuries.

00:00:34.000 Smart move, I guess, if you're injured.

00:00:36.000 You know, he figured, fuck it, I'm just going to fight Cain no matter what, I guess.

00:00:39.000 And then when he found out it was Miocic, he's like, listen, I'm hurt.

00:00:44.000 Fuck this.

00:00:44.000 Smart move.

00:00:45.000 Yeah.

00:00:46.000 Because...

00:00:47.000 Let's explain what this is.

00:00:49.000 This is a Fight Companion podcast.

00:00:51.000 It's not a regular podcast.

00:00:52.000 So we're watching the fights, but honestly, it's almost never us watching the fights.

00:00:58.000 So if you're listening to this right now, you're like, I don't give a fuck about fights.

00:01:02.000 Most of the time, we don't either.

00:01:05.000 Eddie Bravo's here, my brother Eddie Bravo.

00:01:08.000 Yo, yo, yo. 0.99

00:01:09.000 The greatest that ever did it.

00:01:10.000 What?

00:01:11.000 Holla! 1.00

00:01:11.000 Brian Callen, my dog, one of my favorite human beings on the planet, as well as my brother Brendan Schaub, also one of my favorite humans on the planet. 1.00

00:01:20.000 So these are my favorite podcasts, more than anything.

00:01:22.000 I look forward to these fucking things.

00:01:24.000 The best.

00:01:25.000 They're so much fun.

00:01:26.000 The best.

00:01:26.000 It's like we get to hang out and be ourselves.

00:01:29.000 We get to fuck around.

00:01:30.000 Just talk.

00:01:30.000 Just a couple dudes.

00:01:32.000 Just talking shit.

00:01:33.000 We get to bro out.

00:01:34.000 We're just bro out, guys.

00:01:36.000 Bro out for three hours.

00:01:37.000 Bro out unapologetically.

00:01:39.000 Have some fun.

00:01:40.000 Watch some fights.

00:01:41.000 Talk about what we eat.

00:01:42.000 Brian is going to try on his barbell jeans.

00:01:45.000 I got him some flexi jeans.

00:01:47.000 It's funny how guys don't change.

00:01:49.000 My son, I went hiking with him and all he was talking about for two days is, I want you to teach me how to chop down a tree.

00:01:56.000 He's obsessed.

00:01:57.000 I'm like, alright, but I need to chop a tree down.

00:01:59.000 So we go, and we go to the quote-unquote chop a tree down, and I get him a hatchet.

00:02:04.000 He hasn't put that hatchet down.

00:02:05.000 You give that kid any kind of a weapon.

00:02:07.000 My daughter looks at the hatchet like, maybe I can decorate it.

00:02:12.000 She wanted to put sparkles on the handle, and my son was like, what?

00:02:16.000 You know, what's interesting is that gay men can go one of two ways.

00:02:19.000 They can go towards, like, girly type stuff, or they can go just as manly.

00:02:24.000 You're talking about the beers, though.

00:02:27.000 Well, there's just not even beers.

00:02:28.000 It's like two different styles of gay men. 0.61

00:02:30.000 Like, I have a gay couple that lives on my street.

00:02:33.000 The nicest fucking dudes.

00:02:35.000 They're so nice.

00:02:36.000 And one of them is the man.

00:02:38.000 He's into trucks.

00:02:40.000 He makes all the cash.

00:02:43.000 You can break it down to...

00:02:46.000 We talk trucks, man.

00:02:48.000 You can break it down.

00:02:49.000 One fucks guys, and the other doesn't. 1.00

00:02:52.000 Well, I don't know.

00:02:53.000 I don't know how that works.

00:02:54.000 I don't get personal with them.

00:02:55.000 They're just the coolest motherfuckers. 0.99

00:02:57.000 I get the best neighbors.

00:02:59.000 I know a couple like that, and I get personal with them.

00:03:02.000 But then there's twinks, right?

00:03:04.000 Then there's like the twinks who are the super girly.

00:03:07.000 Then why would you want to just be with a girl? 0.52

00:03:09.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:03:10.000 Or like the lesbians? 1.00

00:03:11.000 Well, how come some dudes like girls with big asses? 1.00

00:03:13.000 Some dudes like girls with really skinny.

00:03:16.000 Hey, everyone likes a girl with a big ass. 1.00

00:03:18.000 No, man.

00:03:18.000 Like there's some guys that are into like really skinny girls.

00:03:20.000 Yes.

00:03:20.000 Like really skinny like model type girls with no asses.

00:03:23.000 Not a lot.

00:03:24.000 None of my friends.

00:03:25.000 It's weird.

00:03:26.000 It's all over the map.

00:03:27.000 It's a good way to put it.

00:03:28.000 It's all over the map.

00:03:29.000 He's into trucks.

00:03:31.000 But it's true.

00:03:32.000 We talk fucking suspensions and shit.

00:03:35.000 All right, Joe, I'll see you later.

00:03:36.000 He goes, sucks dick. 0.99

00:03:38.000 His husband is actually into trucks, too, so it's weird.

00:03:40.000 But the point being is, like, they're very different personalities that are gay. 0.74

00:03:45.000 Like, I know gay dudes that don't seem even a little gay. 0.54

00:03:48.000 Yeah.

00:03:48.000 And then, you know, they had to eventually come out and, you know, explain the whole thing.

00:03:53.000 Like, do you know, like, there's, like, the fuck's his name?

00:03:57.000 Like, let me think of, like, a good example.

00:03:59.000 Well, there's a lot of them.

00:04:00.000 There's a lot.

00:04:01.000 No need to name them.

00:04:02.000 My buddy Keith, he's the man in the relationship.

00:04:07.000 He wrestled in college, makes millions of dollars.

00:04:12.000 And he was with a bunch of straight guys.

00:04:13.000 We were all eating and stuff, hanging out.

00:04:15.000 Frank was there.

00:04:16.000 And he goes, he just said it so matter-of-factly.

00:04:19.000 He goes, I mean, I think the only difference between me and you guys is I suck cock, you know?

00:04:23.000 And he kept talking.

00:04:26.000 He's got a really deep voice too.

00:04:27.000 The difference is I'm not going to get fucked, but I'll fuck him.

00:04:31.000 That's hilarious.

00:04:32.000 Some will only fuck, right? 0.99

00:04:34.000 Some will only fuck. 1.00

00:04:35.000 They won't take it.

00:04:37.000 Some will only fuck. 1.00

00:04:38.000 Some don't give blowjobs, right? 1.00

00:04:40.000 Some don't give blowjobs. 1.00

00:04:41.000 On the gay singles sites, I bet they have to say that. 0.95

00:04:46.000 I bet there's a name for that.

00:04:48.000 Like a dude who doesn't suck dick. 0.87

00:04:49.000 He's got to have a name.

00:04:50.000 There's got to be like a code one.

00:04:51.000 I wonder what it is.

00:04:54.000 Think of a name.

00:04:55.000 I had the weirdest conversation with a gay couple once after a show I did in Connecticut way back in the day, man. 1.00

00:05:01.000 I don't even remember what bit it was that they were upset about, but they came up to me after the show and they were saying that, just to let you know, most gay guys don't fuck each other in the ass.

00:05:11.000 Like, we're married, we're gay, or a couple.

00:05:14.000 I don't know if it was legal to be married back then, because you're talking about like 91. 192, something like that.

00:05:19.000 And he was talking about, we just blow each other.

00:05:22.000 And I was like, okay.

00:05:24.000 That's the end of the relationship.

00:05:25.000 I don't know where to go with this.

00:05:26.000 You used to fuck me in the ass all the time. 1.00

00:05:28.000 Yeah, he was talking to me about...

00:05:29.000 And then after a while...

00:05:29.000 I would have answered, I would have said, I don't believe you, but continue.

00:05:33.000 No, no, no.

00:05:33.000 He was being honest.

00:05:34.000 He was like, we're not into it.

00:05:35.000 And he's like, it seems like the kind of humor, like that kind of gay humor, like fucking the ass humor, is like, it goes over really big out here in Connecticut, but we mostly, we hang out in the city. 0.69

00:05:46.000 He was one of those guys.

00:05:47.000 Right.

00:05:47.000 It was like big on telling you that I'm very sophisticated.

00:05:49.000 I'm always in the city.

00:05:50.000 And I don't even take it in the ass.

00:05:52.000 I'm just getting my dick sucked by guys.

00:05:54.000 It was the strangest fucking conversation.

00:05:56.000 Yeah, but there's guys like that that...

00:05:58.000 But my point to him was, it was like, but you know guys do get fucked in the ass.

00:06:05.000 It's what they do.

00:06:05.000 When I'm talking about someone fucking someone in the ass, it's not like I'm making things up.

00:06:09.000 No.

00:06:10.000 I was under the impression that they all did that.

00:06:13.000 No, they don't.

00:06:14.000 They definitely don't.

00:06:15.000 That'd be the exception though, right?

00:06:17.000 I don't know.

00:06:18.000 At least on their birthday.

00:06:20.000 Every now and then on their birthday, boom.

00:06:21.000 You gotta give up that ass, son.

00:06:22.000 I'm not into surveys.

00:06:24.000 Once in a while.

00:06:25.000 When they're drunk and they complain.

00:06:28.000 I bet that's the number one complaint.

00:06:29.000 That's why they break up.

00:06:31.000 When they stop fucking the ass and it's just hand jobs, you know it's over. 0.93

00:06:34.000 Get the fuck out.

00:06:35.000 Get the fuck out.

00:06:36.000 This is the kind of fight Mike Pyle's about to fight Sean Spencer.

00:06:40.000 This is the kind of fight that makes me wish that TRT was legal.

00:06:44.000 Because Pyle's so fucking smart and crafty. 0.99

00:06:46.000 Exactly.

00:06:47.000 He's so fucking smart and crafty, I wish they could get that dude on TRT. You know what I'm saying?

00:06:53.000 He 100% needs it.

00:06:54.000 Well, of course.

00:06:55.000 You definitely need it when you hit 40. He's been fighting for so long?

00:06:57.000 Well, 40, I think how long he's been fighting.

00:06:59.000 He's been fighting for a long time.

00:07:01.000 He's taken some hard shots.

00:07:03.000 He's been KO'd by guys like Matt Brown.

00:07:06.000 Tough guys.

00:07:11.000 Very high.

00:07:23.000 Very high.

00:07:26.000 He's a savage man.

00:07:27.000 About 10 years ago, we did a movie together.

00:07:30.000 We were extras in a movie called The Assassination of a High School Principal.

00:07:34.000 We played like, I'm 35 years old and I'm playing a fraternity guy.

00:07:39.000 It was terrible.

00:07:41.000 It was terrible.

00:07:41.000 So bad.

00:07:43.000 But we're both in it.

00:07:45.000 And that guy is such a savage.

00:07:46.000 I've never seen anybody.

00:07:47.000 We went to a club that night afterwards.

00:07:50.000 He went into a club, grabbed a girl like a savage. 0.63

00:07:54.000 Just took her.

00:07:55.000 Grabbed that bitch by the ponytail. 1.00

00:07:56.000 We went back to the hotel and he handled business.

00:07:59.000 I've never seen him.

00:08:00.000 Damn.

00:08:00.000 We don't know what his status was at the time.

00:08:02.000 We don't know what happened.

00:08:03.000 It was between 10 and 20 years ago.

00:08:06.000 It could have been 100 years ago.

00:08:08.000 It may not have been Mike Pyle.

00:08:10.000 That's one thing I remember about Mike is he is a savage.

00:08:13.000 I never seen anybody get down like that.

00:08:15.000 Let's be real careful with those kind of details.

00:08:17.000 Those can be brought up.

00:08:19.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:08:19.000 That's assault, brother.

00:08:20.000 You can't be doing that.

00:08:22.000 Well, he's...

00:08:22.000 Yeah, you can't even say you do that anymore.

00:08:25.000 It used to be that that was like an old movie trick.

00:08:28.000 Dude, you know who's the biggest savage as far as getting chicks I've ever seen? 0.99

00:08:32.000 And you would never guess when I gave you 100 tries.

00:08:34.000 Me and him were in Toronto.

00:08:37.000 Give you a hundred tries.

00:08:38.000 Jake Shields.

00:08:39.000 Oh, I would imagine.

00:08:40.000 With just Asians, though. 0.99

00:08:41.000 He's a handsome bastard.

00:08:42.000 Just Asian girls. 1.00

00:08:42.000 He's handsome. 1.00

00:08:43.000 Dude, you would have thought he was Tom Cruise up in that bitch. 1.00

00:08:44.000 Jake Shields is a very handsome guy.

00:08:46.000 I mean, he's cool.

00:08:47.000 But he was like, hey, I need you to be my wingman and help me out here.

00:08:50.000 I was like, me?

00:08:51.000 What?

00:08:51.000 What do you mean by saying he's cool?

00:08:52.000 Like, you don't think that's a good looking guy?

00:08:54.000 He's not Luke Rockhold.

00:08:55.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:08:56.000 I wouldn't say, is that handsome there?

00:08:57.000 No, he's not as handsome.

00:08:59.000 Luke Rockhold is ridiculous.

00:09:00.000 He's a timepiece.

00:09:01.000 He's a straight timepiece.

00:09:02.000 He's not Alan Juban level, that's for sure.

00:09:04.000 Dude, Alan Juban's a straight model.

00:09:06.000 So when you talk about those guys...

00:09:09.000 You know the story about Alan Juban had a big photo shoot in New York City like two weeks before his fight, so he had to cut weight twice.

00:09:16.000 He cuts weight for his photo shoots.

00:09:18.000 He gets shredded for his photo shoots.

00:09:20.000 I talked to Kenny Johnson about his wrestling coach.

00:09:22.000 His Versace, right?

00:09:23.000 Yeah, he's got a big fucking campaign, man.

00:09:25.000 He's gonna make bank.

00:09:26.000 He's a beautiful person.

00:09:28.000 Not just the way he looks, but he's a great guy.

00:09:29.000 The most beautiful in UFC history.

00:09:31.000 His heart, he's the sweetest guy.

00:09:34.000 Never been a young Don Frye.

00:09:36.000 He's such a nice guy to train with and everything, too.

00:09:38.000 He's so polite.

00:09:40.000 He's just a great guy.

00:09:41.000 Alan Jaban is the salt of the earth.

00:09:43.000 I agree.

00:09:44.000 Beast, too.

00:09:45.000 Doesn't get any better looking.

00:09:47.000 Good luck being that.

00:09:48.000 I love you, bitch. 1.00

00:09:49.000 I know.

00:09:49.000 Good luck being that.

00:09:50.000 Alan's a 10. Jake Shields is an 8. A strong 8. He's a strong 8. He's a strong 8. You want me on here?

00:09:55.000 I would say Jake's a solid 4. I'd say Jake's a 4. Oh, come on!

00:09:59.000 What?!

00:09:59.000 I'd say he's a 6. What are you?

00:10:02.000 Honestly.

00:10:03.000 Take yourself out of that.

00:10:04.000 I'll give you a hit of weed.

00:10:06.000 I want you to be real.

00:10:07.000 Why don't you be real about this?

00:10:09.000 What are you?

00:10:10.000 I don't say I'm a 5. I'm mid-pack.

00:10:13.000 My ears don't help.

00:10:14.000 You're very critical.

00:10:15.000 Your ears do help, though.

00:10:16.000 He's a 9. Girls like fucked up ears. 1.00

00:10:19.000 They're like a guy who's been through some danger.

00:10:21.000 They don't like a guy who's terrified of danger.

00:10:23.000 It's a natural, instinctive reaction.

00:10:25.000 It's to protect your genetics.

00:10:27.000 A guy who has never experienced danger may very well fall apart in the face of danger.

00:10:31.000 So a guy who does crazy shit, like does flips and bikes, why do you think they do that?

00:10:36.000 They do that because it attracts females. 1.00

00:10:38.000 Because females are attracted to a guy who's very risky. 0.89

00:10:42.000 A guy who takes chances and does nutty shit because those guys can survive pressure.

00:10:46.000 That makes sense.

00:10:47.000 I'm just saying with all the UFC fighters, I'd give myself a five.

00:10:50.000 Because we're all not scared of danger.

00:10:53.000 I'd give you a solid eight.

00:10:54.000 How about that?

00:10:54.000 I'd give you a solid eight, maybe eight and a half.

00:10:56.000 But you're a notch better than Jake Shields because you're way bigger than him.

00:11:00.000 I see girls look at you. 0.98

00:11:01.000 It's hilarious.

00:11:02.000 It's unbelievable.

00:11:03.000 And their little ovaries go, ding! 1.00

00:11:05.000 Hungry Eyes.

00:11:06.000 Everything we've done.

00:11:09.000 Not just Fighter and the Kid fans, a friend of mine, who's never even met Shaw before, was like, who's your friend?

00:11:15.000 You could tell her little loins were tingling.

00:11:17.000 What's up, dog?

00:11:20.000 Bartender at the comic store.

00:11:21.000 Bartender at the comic store.

00:11:22.000 So it's a list of details.

00:11:26.000 That's awesome.

00:11:26.000 Oh my god, there's only one there.

00:11:28.000 You didn't see I was already talking about her?

00:11:30.000 I'm just saying generally.

00:11:31.000 You motherfucker.

00:11:32.000 The waitress at the... 0.87

00:11:33.000 Thank god you're not high.

00:11:34.000 One of the waitresses at the Congress.

00:11:35.000 But how about nothing?

00:11:36.000 I would say you're a low nine.

00:11:38.000 How about no one from anywhere?

00:11:38.000 A low nine.

00:11:39.000 A weak nine.

00:11:40.000 What's a ten?

00:11:41.000 Jobin?

00:11:42.000 He's a Versace.

00:11:43.000 He's an eleven.

00:11:44.000 He's an eleven.

00:11:44.000 Well, you're being kind.

00:11:46.000 Shob's an eight. 1.00

00:11:47.000 He's a good-looking eight.

00:11:48.000 But he's got a personality.

00:11:50.000 Personality means more than two points.

00:11:52.000 Yes, it does.

00:11:52.000 Again, eight.

00:11:53.000 Look at that Alan Joban picture.

00:11:54.000 Oh my god.

00:11:55.000 Damn.

00:11:56.000 That's not even a real person.

00:11:57.000 Tell me he's short at least.

00:11:58.000 Tell me he's 5'4".

00:11:59.000 No, he's not.

00:11:59.000 Six feet tall.

00:12:00.000 Six feet.

00:12:01.000 Beautiful.

00:12:01.000 You know he just did a campaign for Equinox.

00:12:04.000 I'll tell you what, man.

00:12:05.000 If you're an Alan Joban hater, you fucking hate people because he's one of the best people I've ever met.

00:12:10.000 I agree.

00:12:11.000 Just a great, great dude.

00:12:13.000 He's a fucking great guy.

00:12:14.000 Can't say anything bad about him.

00:12:15.000 If I looked like that, I'd wake up every morning and be like, this is going to be a good day.

00:12:18.000 I'm telling you, though, I mean, he's not a pretty boy.

00:12:20.000 I mean, this motherfucker's had some serious fights.

00:12:23.000 And he bites down on that mouthpiece and scraps.

00:12:26.000 He got knocked down his last fighter.

00:12:28.000 He fought Tumanoff, man.

00:12:29.000 Tumanoff is a motherfucker, dude.

00:12:31.000 Motherfucker. 0.99

00:12:32.000 I didn't like that matchup.

00:12:33.000 His efficiency, it was a tough fight for anybody.

00:12:36.000 Especially a tough fight when you cut weak.

00:12:38.000 Close fight.

00:12:38.000 He cut two weeks before.

00:12:39.000 No, he got knocked out in the first round.

00:12:40.000 No, no, no.

00:12:41.000 I'm saying not the result.

00:12:43.000 I'm saying on paper, that's a tough fight to pick.

00:12:45.000 I wouldn't have taken it if I was in the Allen's corner.

00:12:48.000 If I was in the Allen's corner, I wouldn't have taken it.

00:12:51.000 I wouldn't have taken it because it's not that I don't think he can beat that guy.

00:12:55.000 I just think right now, Tumanoff striking is so smooth and efficient.

00:13:01.000 It's heavy.

00:13:02.000 It's heavy.

00:13:02.000 It's straight down the pipe.

00:13:04.000 It's also very fluid.

00:13:06.000 Like, he can go from throwing a jab to throwing a lead uppercut in a straight right hand, and every one of them is perfect.

00:13:14.000 And they count.

00:13:14.000 They count, they're accurate, and the mechanics behind them are totally correct.

00:13:19.000 Scary dude.

00:13:20.000 Like, there's guys that probably hit harder.

00:13:22.000 Like, Tyron Woodley probably hits harder than anybody.

00:13:24.000 Tyron Woodley, like, one shot for one shot.

00:13:27.000 Like, when he KO'd Jay Heron, I was like, Jesus Christ!

00:13:30.000 Christ!

00:13:31.000 He's an exploder, dude.

00:13:34.000 If he catches you perfectly on that explosion, he's going to put you away.

00:13:37.000 And it's not saying that his efficiency is bad.

00:13:40.000 His efficiency is way better even now because he's training with Duke Rufus.

00:13:45.000 Tuminov doesn't have that one-shot power that Woodley has, but his efficiency is perfect.

00:13:51.000 Ooh, it's nasty.

00:13:51.000 Everything is perfect.

00:13:52.000 You see a guy that hits hard, one of the things you see, almost invariably, is their body positioning is always perfect.

00:13:59.000 When a guy's throwing a ridiculous punch, you'll see the bend in the legs, you'll see the turn of the body.

00:14:06.000 When a guy's a serious power striker, with Tuminov, everything's in place.

00:14:10.000 It's all like the knee is in the right spot, when the hook...

00:14:13.000 When he's throwing the hook, his foot's in the right spot, his weight's in the right spot.

00:14:17.000 There's no bullshit.

00:14:19.000 Did he come out of the Russian amateur boxing thing?

00:14:21.000 He's a master of sports in boxing.

00:14:23.000 Yeah, that's trouble, man.

00:14:24.000 And he can fucking kick, too, man.

00:14:25.000 He can kick.

00:14:26.000 He's an amazing amateur program.

00:14:28.000 Yeah.

00:14:29.000 He's unexpectedly dangerous with his kicks.

00:14:31.000 But he lost his last fight, right?

00:14:33.000 No, he didn't.

00:14:33.000 No.

00:14:34.000 No, he beat Lorenz Larkin.

00:14:35.000 Oh, that's right.

00:14:36.000 But it wasn't a great fight.

00:14:37.000 It was a very good fight.

00:14:38.000 I loved that fight.

00:14:39.000 I don't think so.

00:14:39.000 Really?

00:14:40.000 So close, because they were so dangerous.

00:14:41.000 Did we do a fight campaign for that?

00:14:43.000 I don't think so.

00:14:44.000 This is the one where Lorenz Larkin was throwing those wheel kicks to the thigh.

00:14:46.000 That's right.

00:14:47.000 And fucked up his thigh. 0.86

00:14:48.000 Fucked up his leg.

00:14:49.000 Fucked up his leg.

00:14:50.000 But Tuminov hung in there to the end.

00:14:52.000 And a super close fight.

00:14:54.000 I honestly thought that Larkin pulled it off, but I wasn't upset at the decision because it was so close.

00:15:00.000 His leg was jacked.

00:15:01.000 It was so weird.

00:15:01.000 Those low wheel kicks.

00:15:03.000 He does all kinds of weird stuff.

00:15:04.000 Larkin is a bad motherfucker, dude.

00:15:06.000 He's one of the dark horses in that division.

00:15:08.000 His takedown defense, I haven't seen anything like it in a long time.

00:15:11.000 He came up to Reign to train with Munoz, Pat Cummins, and myself, and his wrestling day.

00:15:16.000 I was like, oh, we're just going to take this full down.

00:15:18.000 Well, I thought going into that fight, Larkin was going to have the kicking advantage, and Tumanoff was going to have the striking advantage, and that's how it turned out.

00:15:25.000 But, God damn, it was a close-ass fight.

00:15:28.000 Larkin actually has braces and during the fight his fucking braces were sticking into his mouth.

00:15:33.000 Oh my god.

00:15:34.000 Like something went wrong with his braces.

00:15:36.000 He was like trying to fix it in between rounds.

00:15:38.000 How the fuck can you fight with braces?

00:15:39.000 He shouldn't be fighting with braces.

00:15:41.000 Isn't there Invisalign now or some shit?

00:15:43.000 But he's a very good looking man.

00:15:44.000 He has the Frank Shamrock braces?

00:15:45.000 Yeah, I need some.

00:15:46.000 He has the silver mouth?

00:15:47.000 I don't know.

00:15:48.000 I don't know.

00:15:49.000 I didn't see it until they're talking about it in between rounds in the corner.

00:15:52.000 I still feel bad about myself after seeing Al Angel Byron.

00:15:56.000 I wonder if Bellator is going to let Benson Henderson fight with a toothpick in his mouth.

00:15:59.000 They're going to let him do whatever the fuck he wants.

00:16:02.000 Oh, he clipped him.

00:16:04.000 He clipped him.

00:16:05.000 Oh, shit.

00:16:05.000 Oh, man.

00:16:07.000 He's covering heads up really bad.

00:16:08.000 Come on, pal.

00:16:10.000 Don't get too crazy.

00:16:12.000 Oh, it's 3-0-1 right now.

00:16:14.000 3, 259, 258, 257. Sync that shit up.

00:16:18.000 Mike Pyle versus Sean Spencer?

00:16:20.000 Is that who's fighting?

00:16:21.000 Is that the...

00:16:22.000 He just got rocked.

00:16:23.000 Spencer got rocked, man.

00:16:24.000 Is that his name?

00:16:25.000 We shouldn't say that's his name.

00:16:26.000 Sean Spencer, yeah.

00:16:27.000 Oh, shit.

00:16:29.000 Yeah, Ben Henderson's fighting for the title shot, right?

00:16:32.000 Isn't he fighting Brooks?

00:16:33.000 Do you know that's secretly my biggest fear?

00:16:35.000 Is he going to fight for the title?

00:16:36.000 Yeah, by the way.

00:16:37.000 It's next month.

00:16:38.000 My biggest fear is forgetting what someone's name is in the middle of a fight while calling the fight.

00:16:42.000 Good thing you don't have a head drum.

00:16:43.000 I don't know how you do it.

00:16:45.000 Good thing, Doc.

00:16:46.000 Well, I also have alpha brain and notes.

00:16:48.000 You got some alpha brain on you right now?

00:16:50.000 For reals, I could use some of that right now.

00:16:53.000 Where's the jug?

00:16:54.000 There should be a jug over here.

00:16:56.000 Oh, here it is.

00:16:57.000 These are good fights tonight, man.

00:16:59.000 The best stuff is the new stuff we have.

00:17:01.000 The instant alpha brain?

00:17:02.000 The shit.

00:17:03.000 I take four.

00:17:04.000 The instant stuff is awesome.

00:17:06.000 I do love the instant.

00:17:06.000 I don't have any here.

00:17:08.000 Dude, I had Kyle Kingsbury on the other day.

00:17:10.000 He's the best.

00:17:11.000 Great guy.

00:17:12.000 Oh my god, what a sweetheart. 1.00

00:17:14.000 So fucking smart, too.

00:17:16.000 His wife is a Smoke Show 3000, too.

00:17:18.000 She used to be a UFC ring card girl.

00:17:19.000 Yes, sir.

00:17:20.000 She's a very cool chick, too. 0.85

00:17:21.000 The whole family's just good people.

00:17:23.000 They're Salt of the Earth.

00:17:25.000 What'd you call her?

00:17:25.000 So cool.

00:17:26.000 Salt of the Earth?

00:17:27.000 Damn, man.

00:17:27.000 I said Smoke Show.

00:17:28.000 Oh, Smoke Show.

00:17:29.000 Salt of the Earth, Smoke Show.

00:17:31.000 Mine's more old school.

00:17:34.000 Yours is probably better.

00:17:35.000 Yeah, she's just a really sweet person, too.

00:17:37.000 It's cool seeing them parents, too.

00:17:39.000 It's wild.

00:17:40.000 They have two?

00:17:40.000 No, one.

00:17:41.000 One little boy.

00:17:42.000 God, he's so fucking cute.

00:17:43.000 Didn't he just start smoking weed recently, right?

00:17:45.000 I don't think so.

00:17:47.000 No?

00:17:47.000 No, he does everything, man.

00:17:49.000 He's big in the ayahuasca.

00:17:50.000 I thought Pat Cummings had some shit.

00:17:53.000 I was under the impression that he just started.

00:17:56.000 What do you mean?

00:17:56.000 Or maybe it was the week before he did a bunch of ayahuasca and then fought Pat.

00:18:01.000 He got mollywhopped by Pat.

00:18:03.000 Pat is a motherfucker.

00:18:05.000 I cornered Pat during that fight.

00:18:06.000 Pat Cummins is a motherfucker.

00:18:08.000 Look how smart Mike Pyle is.

00:18:09.000 Look how efficient and smooth he is.

00:18:12.000 He sees the shots, he slips them.

00:18:14.000 And he's in real good shape.

00:18:15.000 I mean, don't get me wrong, but there's just a reality about what a 40-year-old body can do as far as the way he pushes himself.

00:18:21.000 Like, that was what held Bernard Hopkins back.

00:18:25.000 You know, like, Bernard Hopkins just couldn't keep a pace with a guy like Sergei Kovalov.

00:18:30.000 He had to go into a defensive mode against him.

00:18:32.000 It was tough to watch.

00:18:33.000 But it was because he was 49 years old.

00:18:35.000 If he fought Kovalev when he was 35, holy shit, that would have been an amazing fucking fight.

00:18:41.000 Amazing fight.

00:18:41.000 Did you see Kovalev's last fight?

00:18:43.000 Dude.

00:18:43.000 What the fuck?

00:18:44.000 He's a murderer.

00:18:46.000 Him and Andre Ward, that's the fight.

00:18:48.000 He killed a guy in the ring.

00:18:49.000 Yeah, he did.

00:18:50.000 And it didn't affect him the way it affects most people.

00:18:54.000 It's very interesting.

00:18:55.000 Cool-hearted Russian.

00:18:56.000 Yeah, it didn't take anything off of his desire to compete.

00:18:59.000 Does not give a fuck.

00:19:00.000 That's one thing that happens to fighters sometimes, and man, they're rarely the same after someone dies in the ring.

00:19:06.000 Boom Boom Mancini, that happened.

00:19:07.000 He was never really the same.

00:19:08.000 Emile Griffith.

00:19:10.000 They say that Emile Griffiths, they say, was gay.

00:19:13.000 And that Benny Perrette, the guy who was fighting, was talking a lot of shit about him being gay.

00:19:18.000 And was saying a lot of gay slurs.

00:19:20.000 And Emile Griffiths beat the fuck out of that dude.

00:19:24.000 And then he died?

00:19:25.000 He beat him to death.

00:19:26.000 He beat him to death.

00:19:27.000 Damn, son.

00:19:28.000 Yeah.

00:19:29.000 I don't remember what round it was.

00:19:31.000 If I had to guess, I want to say it was like the 14th round.

00:19:33.000 There's a documentary on Boom Boom saying how when that guy died, he was never the same.

00:19:38.000 Oh yeah, of course.

00:19:38.000 Never.

00:19:39.000 Most fighters...

00:19:41.000 I think the guy's name was Ban Ki-moon or something like that.

00:19:43.000 Dooku Kim?

00:19:44.000 Dooku Kim, that's who I was.

00:19:45.000 Ban Ki-moon.

00:19:46.000 You were close.

00:19:47.000 Ban Ki-moon is the...

00:19:49.000 I think it's the commissioner for the UN or something.

00:19:53.000 His dad was his...

00:20:00.000 That was another extreme dehydration fight.

00:20:04.000 He extremely dehydrated to get down to 135. That shit was on national TV if you remember.

00:20:09.000 They also had weigh-ins the day of the fights.

00:20:11.000 That's a terrible idea.

00:20:13.000 Somebody did something I read, and I don't know if it's true, but they said that a number of people who've died in the ring had dads for their coach.

00:20:21.000 They'll push themselves.

00:20:22.000 There's not a lot.

00:20:23.000 There's not a lot.

00:20:23.000 But apparently that's very common for guys to push themselves until they get really hurt because their dad's in the corner.

00:20:30.000 Well, Wonderboy Thompson's trained by his dad.

00:20:33.000 Isn't he?

00:20:33.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:20:35.000 And so is Sage.

00:20:36.000 Sage Northcutt, trained by his dad.

00:20:38.000 There's been quite a few.

00:20:40.000 Darren Crookshank, trained by his dad.

00:20:42.000 You think Sage is all the flack he's getting on the internet is just?

00:20:48.000 What do you think about that?

00:20:49.000 No, listen, I think if you ask any fighter, hey, if Dana offered you 40 and 40, are you going to take it at 19?

00:20:55.000 Fuck yes.

00:20:55.000 Of course.

00:20:56.000 It's not his fault, this whole hype machine.

00:20:58.000 Well, you know what, man?

00:20:59.000 It was a good fight for him to experience, to learn.

00:21:03.000 That's what I said.

00:21:04.000 He needs to learn some ground defense, and he needs to learn some jiu-jitsu, but that's to be expected.

00:21:09.000 He's only fucking 19 years old.

00:21:10.000 People get caught in the gym all the time, guys that are good at jiu-jitsu.

00:21:13.000 I get caught.

00:21:13.000 I think it was the best thing to happen to him.

00:21:15.000 The sky's He's the limit, though, as far as his potential.

00:21:17.000 At 19 years of age, he seems to have a very good attitude.

00:21:20.000 He's a smart kid.

00:21:22.000 Athletically, he's ridiculous.

00:21:23.000 Have you seen those front flips he can do?

00:21:26.000 It's crazy.

00:21:26.000 Off a toe.

00:21:28.000 Off one toe.

00:21:28.000 And the way he does it, it looks fake.

00:21:30.000 It looks like he's on a stick.

00:21:32.000 You're spinning him like one of those foosball tables.

00:21:35.000 He said he was on antibiotics, too, in that fight, because he looked like shit.

00:21:38.000 We had strep.

00:21:39.000 That's one of the reasons why, apparently, he tapped so quickly.

00:21:43.000 Because when it was clamping down on his throat, he was already swollen, his throat was already fucked up.

00:21:46.000 He had strep.

00:21:48.000 He's gonna be fine.

00:21:49.000 He gets a lot of hate.

00:21:50.000 He gets a lot of hate.

00:21:51.000 Of course he does.

00:21:51.000 It's tough, like, you see Tony Ferguson made videos, like, I tapped out like a bitch.

00:21:57.000 It's tough if you're a guy like Tony Ferguson, who's grinding, right?

00:21:59.000 He doesn't get nowhere near as much love as a guy like Sage.

00:22:03.000 You know, Tony Ferguson is in the PR business as well as in the fight business.

00:22:07.000 That's the reality in the post-McGregor era.

00:22:09.000 You're in the PR business, man.

00:22:11.000 Look what Conor McGregor did.

00:22:12.000 He said, ooh, Mike Pyle got a good guillotine.

00:22:15.000 He's got a good guillotine.

00:22:15.000 Look at him scooting in here.

00:22:17.000 Look at him scooting in here.

00:22:18.000 Watch that right butterfly. 0.94

00:22:19.000 He will mount.

00:22:20.000 He will fucking mount.

00:22:21.000 Oh, what did I call?

00:22:23.000 He missed it.

00:22:25.000 Missed him out.

00:22:26.000 He's a bad motherfucker, Mike Pyle.

00:22:31.000 He fought Rampage Jackson in 2001. His first pro fight was Rampage Jackson.

00:22:39.000 Rampage is way bigger than he is.

00:22:41.000 I'm telling you.

00:22:42.000 Mike Pyle, and that was one of the reasons that Matt Brown was so respectful about him after the fight.

00:22:47.000 He's like, people don't know how good Mike Pyle is.

00:22:50.000 I guess in the training room, too, he's even better.

00:22:52.000 I guess he's a motherfucker.

00:22:53.000 That's what I hear.

00:22:54.000 They say in the training room he's, like, unstoppable.

00:22:56.000 I'm telling you, TRT is designed for dudes like this.

00:22:58.000 Can't do it anymore, son.

00:23:00.000 And now they have testing for HGH? China calls, son. 0.96

00:23:02.000 They have testing for HGH? Yes, they have a testing for HGH that gets you from 21 days out.

00:23:07.000 What?

00:23:07.000 Now you're really fucked.

00:23:08.000 It used to be, like, a day.

00:23:10.000 It used to be, like, 24 hours.

00:23:11.000 You can't do shit anymore.

00:23:12.000 You can't do shit anymore.

00:23:13.000 Don't come up with something.

00:23:14.000 Gene, don't think me.

00:23:15.000 Well, I told you Nowitzki said that they've already, at least theoretically, have testosterone that's derived from animals instead of wild yams.

00:23:22.000 So the carbon isotope test doesn't work.

00:23:25.000 Yeah, it looks like human testosterone.

00:23:27.000 Oh, Dirty Bird. 1.00

00:23:28.000 Yeah, no shit, your name's the Dirty Bird.

00:23:30.000 That doesn't mean anything.

00:23:31.000 Yeah, but it does.

00:23:33.000 Of course the Dirty Bird tested positive.

00:23:34.000 This is a good fight, man.

00:23:36.000 Mike Pyle and Sean Spencer throwing down, man.

00:23:40.000 Props to Spencer for surviving that exchange.

00:23:43.000 This fight's in Vegas?

00:23:45.000 Yeah, this is at the MGM. That stadium looks empty.

00:23:47.000 It's empty, I'm sure.

00:23:49.000 When the main event dropped out, I'm sure a lot of people canceled their trips.

00:23:52.000 Dude, I'm not mad at Verdum.

00:23:53.000 I was going to talk about it at the beginning.

00:23:54.000 It makes sense because...

00:23:56.000 Since he's the heavyweight champ, the way it works out a lot of times is you get a percentage of pay-per-views, but you have to hit a certain number.

00:24:02.000 It's hard to market Stipe versus Verdum on two weeks.

00:24:06.000 He's not going to hit those pay-per-view numbers.

00:24:08.000 So when he was like, oh, I'm out, I was like, that's fucking brilliant.

00:24:10.000 But he's definitely hurt.

00:24:12.000 The word that I'm hearing from everybody is that he's fucking hurt.

00:24:15.000 He's been having some back problems for a while now, apparently.

00:24:18.000 He was having it on one side of his back.

00:24:20.000 And it would lock up, but he was working through it.

00:24:23.000 Oh, nice spinning elbow.

00:24:25.000 Oh, shit.

00:24:26.000 We got some, son.

00:24:27.000 Look at that.

00:24:28.000 Come on, Pyle.

00:24:28.000 Oh, shit.

00:24:29.000 Oh, nasty knee. 0.95

00:24:31.000 Oh, my God.

00:24:33.000 Stop it.

00:24:34.000 Stop it.

00:24:35.000 This fight is over, man.

00:24:36.000 Oh, man.

00:24:37.000 Sean Spencer's a monster.

00:24:39.000 They can stop this fight.

00:24:40.000 Who's the ref?

00:24:41.000 Is that Edo Levine?

00:24:42.000 Oh, shit.

00:24:43.000 Steve Levine, son.

00:24:45.000 Stop it, man.

00:24:46.000 That's a brutal beating.

00:24:46.000 Pyle just looked at him.

00:24:47.000 Stop it.

00:24:48.000 Stop it.

00:24:48.000 He's not defending himself.

00:24:50.000 Eve Levine lets shit go.

00:24:51.000 Jesus Christ.

00:24:52.000 Brutality.

00:24:52.000 He does, but that was not good.

00:24:54.000 I agree.

00:24:54.000 But you know if you got Eve Levine as your ref, you're like, ah, I'm about to get fucked up.

00:24:58.000 It's a violent sport.

00:24:59.000 Sometimes it happens.

00:25:01.000 Yeah, but we can prevent that.

00:25:02.000 You know what?

00:25:03.000 Four or five of those shots.

00:25:05.000 He's looking at his eyes.

00:25:06.000 What pressure?

00:25:07.000 Dude, four or five of those shots.

00:25:09.000 He's been a ref for fucking years. 1.00

00:25:11.000 The pressure is if he would have stopped it early and everyone fucking complains.

00:25:13.000 No one gave a fuck.

00:25:15.000 That guy was out.

00:25:15.000 That guy was in trouble.

00:25:16.000 I would rather have it go a little late than a little early.

00:25:18.000 No, that hurts the sport, my man.

00:25:20.000 That doesn't hurt no fucking sport.

00:25:21.000 I disagree.

00:25:22.000 How's that hurting the sport?

00:25:23.000 Are you kidding?

00:25:24.000 We're paying for the violence.

00:25:25.000 Yeah, but a little late is unnecessary.

00:25:27.000 That wasn't that late, man.

00:25:28.000 That was very entertaining.

00:25:29.000 That might be one less fight on Spencer's career.

00:25:32.000 Brutality is what we pay for.

00:25:33.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:25:34.000 Well, look, you know what?

00:25:35.000 It's real subjective, Eddie, because you're right in a lot of ways.

00:25:38.000 But then again, there's guys that survive it, like Frankie Edgar, right?

00:25:41.000 If you stopped every fight where Frankie Edgar was wobbled, you'd be in real trouble.

00:25:45.000 I mean, he would have never beat Gray Matard in that second fight by KO. Correct.

00:25:48.000 Because he got hurt hard in that first round, and a lot of trigger-happy refs would have pulled the trigger on that fight. 1.00

00:25:52.000 And there's a shitload of fights out there.

00:25:54.000 There are.

00:25:54.000 There's a whole list of them.

00:25:55.000 But this one is prolonged.

00:25:58.000 This is my problem with this.

00:25:59.000 He's not hitting back and he's not defending himself.

00:26:02.000 How's he gonna win?

00:26:03.000 He's not doing anything.

00:26:04.000 He's just taking shots.

00:26:05.000 Stop this, right?

00:26:06.000 He was defending himself.

00:26:07.000 He's not moving.

00:26:08.000 He was defending himself until the very end.

00:26:11.000 But those last shots, he's not moving.

00:26:13.000 He's not moving at all.

00:26:14.000 He's just surviving on his toughness.

00:26:16.000 That was a great call.

00:26:18.000 That was a great definitive call.

00:26:20.000 It wasn't on the fence.

00:26:21.000 It's not bad.

00:26:21.000 If it goes a little over the fence, it's fine.

00:26:23.000 That's why there's subjective thinking.

00:26:25.000 Dude, how experienced is Mike Powell?

00:26:26.000 You and I have different points of view, but I see your argument.

00:26:30.000 But we gotta realize, why are we watching this?

00:26:33.000 We're watching this not for decisions, we're watching this for brutality.

00:26:36.000 Right, but you gotta protect a guy when a fight is basically over.

00:26:38.000 Highlights are all brutal.

00:26:38.000 You gotta protect a guy from his own toughness.

00:26:41.000 That's a crazy guy.

00:26:42.000 That's a beautiful highlight.

00:26:44.000 Beatdowns like that are highlights.

00:26:45.000 I think it's a highlight.

00:26:47.000 Come on.

00:26:47.000 It's a highlight.

00:26:48.000 If you stopped it...

00:26:49.000 Three punches before it's still a highlight.

00:26:51.000 Yes, I agree.

00:26:52.000 I agree, too.

00:26:53.000 I agree, too.

00:26:53.000 But it's not the worst.

00:26:54.000 That was not the worst stoppage ever.

00:26:55.000 No, not at all.

00:26:56.000 You know what was worse?

00:26:57.000 You know what was worse?

00:26:58.000 Luke Rockhold and Chris Weidman.

00:27:00.000 100%.

00:27:00.000 That was worse.

00:27:01.000 Way worse.

00:27:01.000 That was a fight that should have been stopped.

00:27:03.000 100%.

00:27:03.000 When he was on top of them, I was saying, what does Luke Rockhold have to do to get a stoppage?

00:27:09.000 Because this is terrible.

00:27:10.000 Chris Weidman has taken damage that's probably not just unnecessary, but most likely when you get beaten up like that, you're not going to recover.

00:27:18.000 But there have been many, many fights where they could have easily stopped it and the guy came back to win.

00:27:24.000 Shane Carr was a lot of fights like that.

00:27:26.000 There's a lot of fights like that.

00:27:28.000 You gotta let it go for the fans.

00:27:30.000 They're paying 65 fucking dollars now?

00:27:32.000 Come on.

00:27:33.000 We'd rather have a little late than a little early.

00:27:35.000 A little late than a little early is always gonna win.

00:27:38.000 I think Brock Lesnar looked better versus Shane Carr than Weidman did.

00:27:43.000 Oh, 100%.

00:27:44.000 There really wasn't any damage.

00:27:45.000 He was getting hit, but He's covering up, but there's no blood.

00:27:48.000 But he looked like he was there.

00:27:50.000 Weidman was getting thumped on.

00:27:52.000 Face was literally like someone shot him with a.22 to the face.

00:27:55.000 That's like greatest moments of MMA history because of that.

00:27:59.000 That's why hardly nobody's doing MMA. Because of the brutality.

00:28:05.000 That's why people are paying $65 for it.

00:28:08.000 If it was all decisions, no one would pay for anything.

00:28:10.000 That's a stop regardless.

00:28:12.000 That wasn't that bad.

00:28:13.000 Well, okay, you know, we don't have to argue about it.

00:28:16.000 I see Eddie's point of view, and I'm leaning more towards your side.

00:28:20.000 I think maybe it could have stopped because he was just standing there taking shots.

00:28:23.000 He wasn't moving.

00:28:24.000 That's my problem.

00:28:26.000 When a guy's just standing there taking shots and he's not moving, he's waiting for the referee to stop.

00:28:29.000 But he was standing fully erect.

00:28:31.000 He wasn't wobbling.

00:28:33.000 Not for the last time.

00:28:34.000 He's just a stud.

00:28:35.000 He's a stud.

00:28:36.000 He's in excellent shape.

00:28:37.000 But that's how a lot of guys die.

00:28:39.000 Like, a lot of the guys that have died from getting beat up, they didn't go down.

00:28:43.000 They got beaten down.

00:28:44.000 They sank into the ropes.

00:28:46.000 How many people have died in MMA? 5,000.

00:28:48.000 I'm not talking about MMA. Mostly boxing.

00:28:50.000 Mostly boxing.

00:28:51.000 Well, you know, one of the things that MMA has going for it is that you can fucking clinch.

00:28:55.000 It's the cruelest shit ever to watch a guy rocked in a boxing match and the referee's pulling him off and holding on to the guy.

00:29:02.000 It's the worst.

00:29:04.000 It's the only thing that's keeping that guy alive.

00:29:06.000 It's gangster.

00:29:07.000 It's the only thing keeping him alive.

00:29:08.000 They're like, nope, you can't hang on.

00:29:10.000 They go, break up, break it up.

00:29:11.000 You're like, oh, no.

00:29:13.000 If you don't let go, I'm going to disqualify you.

00:29:15.000 Oh, shit.

00:29:17.000 It's the worst.

00:29:18.000 It's really dumb.

00:29:20.000 Mike Pyle.

00:29:20.000 Powerful Mike Pyle.

00:29:22.000 This is a big win for him.

00:29:23.000 Congratulations to him.

00:29:24.000 He's been fighting forever, man.

00:29:26.000 40 years old.

00:29:27.000 I remember the first time I heard his name, Ed Clay said, there's a guy from Tennessee named Mike Pyle.

00:29:32.000 He trains at my gym.

00:29:33.000 Watch out for this guy.

00:29:34.000 This was 2001 or 2000. So long ago.

00:29:38.000 He's 40 now.

00:29:39.000 He's crazy.

00:29:42.000 Boom! 0.99

00:29:43.000 Top of the head, son.

00:29:44.000 Well, I think MMA, in a way, has a longer lifespan, regardless of what you're taking.

00:29:49.000 Even if you're taking nothing than boxing does, because it's not as completely dependent upon reflexes.

00:29:54.000 There's so many different skills to learn.

00:29:56.000 Oh, man.

00:29:56.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:29:57.000 This is brutal.

00:29:58.000 See, that's when he looked at the referee.

00:29:59.000 He looked at the referee and went, stop it.

00:30:00.000 I haven't stopped.

00:30:01.000 That's good.

00:30:02.000 One more, and he stopped.

00:30:02.000 He wanted to make sure, boom, okay, we're done.

00:30:04.000 He's still on his feet.

00:30:05.000 Guy wasn't doing shit, though.

00:30:07.000 Sean was just taking it because he was tough.

00:30:08.000 He didn't need to take that last name.

00:30:10.000 For sure.

00:30:10.000 It's alright.

00:30:11.000 Eddie wants violence.

00:30:13.000 Poor baby.

00:30:14.000 Rip his head off.

00:30:15.000 Eddie's that guy.

00:30:16.000 Rip his head off.

00:30:17.000 Wasn't the worst thing.

00:30:18.000 Dude, I'm just trying to be honest here.

00:30:20.000 That's it.

00:30:21.000 I see what you're saying, but poor baby?

00:30:26.000 This guy just fought his heart out.

00:30:28.000 You're like, poor baby.

00:30:29.000 Hey, that's what people are paying $65.

00:30:31.000 They know the game.

00:30:32.000 I don't know, man.

00:30:33.000 They know the game.

00:30:34.000 They know it's brutal.

00:30:36.000 Everybody's well aware that you're in a fucking cage, man.

00:30:38.000 Dudes are throwing full-blown shin kicks to your skull. 0.95

00:30:41.000 No one's trying to stop that.

00:30:43.000 But they are, once you're hurt.

00:30:45.000 But once you're hurt, they are trying to stop that.

00:30:48.000 That's the whole idea behind it.

00:30:50.000 What would you rather take?

00:30:51.000 What he went through against the fence like that, with those elbows like that, and you were kind of standing?

00:30:55.000 Or Edson Barbosa just throwing a straight fucking wheel kick?

00:30:59.000 It's completely different.

00:30:59.000 A wheel kick in your face.

00:31:00.000 Or that switch kick to your side.

00:31:02.000 Come on, with the heel.

00:31:02.000 That switch kick to your floating rib.

00:31:04.000 No, no, that switch kick ain't shit.

00:31:06.000 I'm talking about the wheel kick with the heel in your eye socket.

00:31:08.000 Might be the hardest hit.

00:31:09.000 Yeah, it doesn't feel good.

00:31:11.000 I'd rather take those Mike Pyle elbows and shit.

00:31:13.000 Oh, definitely.

00:31:16.000 His fucking wheel kick is perfect.

00:31:18.000 His switch kick and his wheel kick are like the best I've ever seen.

00:31:22.000 The fastest, too.

00:31:22.000 Even his leg kicks are so goddamn fast.

00:31:25.000 Barclos is probably the fastest kicker maybe I've ever seen.

00:31:29.000 I don't think I've ever seen anybody kick as fast as him.

00:31:31.000 Not even close though.

00:31:32.000 There's been a lot of fucking KOs with those wheel kicks over the last five years.

00:31:37.000 Look at Wonderboy Thompson.

00:31:38.000 It's kind of common now.

00:31:39.000 Do you remember we used to talk about it and I was like, just people don't know how to do it.

00:31:42.000 I go, people know how to do it.

00:31:44.000 It's horrific because if it lands, I've never seen anybody get wheel kicked in the head by a guy who's good and not go out.

00:31:50.000 Like when you get healed, when a heel hits your head, you know, like sometimes you catch guys with the toes and those guys are okay.

00:31:57.000 They get slapped.

00:31:58.000 Yeah.

00:31:58.000 But when a heel hits you in the head from a guy who really knows how to kick it.

00:32:01.000 And you got your boot on.

00:32:02.000 And you got the boot on.

00:32:03.000 Dude, Wonderboy landed too.

00:32:05.000 No, no, no, no.

00:32:05.000 You got your boot on.

00:32:06.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:07.000 As opposed to like this.

00:32:09.000 Exactly.

00:32:10.000 Well, the key is, it's just like throwing a punch.

00:32:12.000 The idea, like when you're throwing a punch is, you don't want your hand completely clinched up until you're going to make impact because then it slows the punch down.

00:32:20.000 So you're supposed to punch and then tighten your hand up as you're about to hit.

00:32:24.000 It's like kind of a timing thing in a lot of ways.

00:32:27.000 You want to keep everything as loose as possible while exploding in the right way.

00:32:31.000 It's the same thing with a kick.

00:32:32.000 When you throw in that wheel kick, you want everything to be almost like ballet until like...

00:32:38.000 Halfway there.

00:32:39.000 And then halfway there, you're pulling your leg back, and you're pushing your foot forward, and you're sticking that heel out.

00:32:45.000 But it doesn't come until, like, there.

00:32:47.000 It's like as you're in the middle of the spin, once you get, like, there, that's when everything hardens up.

00:32:53.000 And boom! 0.98

00:32:53.000 And then you come across with a heel. 0.98

00:32:55.000 That's what Barboza does.

00:32:56.000 Sneaky.

00:32:57.000 No MMA fighters were working on that shit in the late 90s, early 2000s.

00:33:01.000 People used to make fun of me.

00:33:02.000 Yeah, nobody was working on that shit.

00:33:03.000 Everyone is now, though.

00:33:04.000 Dude, people used to make fun of me when I brought it up.

00:33:07.000 I would say, you know, once people learn how to really throw spinning back kicks to the body, it's like getting hit by a car.

00:33:13.000 It was more really When the people that already know how to do it learn how to wrestle and do jiu-jitsu so they're not afraid to throw it.

00:33:20.000 Because there was karate guys and taekwondo guys in those times, but they were told by their MMA coach, don't fucking throw that shit because these guys are going to take you down and choke you out.

00:33:29.000 So they were limited.

00:33:30.000 They're like, okay, we're going to keep it nice and simple and we're not going to do these spin kicks that we know how to do because we suck on the ground.

00:33:36.000 But once, like Stephen Thompson or Wonderboy.

00:33:40.000 Yeah.

00:33:40.000 He landed two on Jake Ellenberger.

00:33:43.000 He's good on the ground.

00:33:44.000 This was after Ellenberger said that it was a waste of time to throw those things.

00:33:49.000 He's like, I'm not worried about his spinning technique.

00:33:51.000 He said waste of time?

00:33:51.000 That's what he said.

00:33:52.000 He's like, it was a waste of energy.

00:33:54.000 In the preview.

00:33:56.000 Did he really?

00:33:57.000 Yeah.

00:33:57.000 In the preview he said that.

00:33:58.000 Oh no.

00:33:59.000 Wonderboy moves like a fucking snake.

00:34:02.000 That's the future right there.

00:34:03.000 Guys that can strike like that, like Conor McGregor, like Diego Brandao, those guys that just throw everything.

00:34:08.000 Diego Brandao, that's aggressive.

00:34:11.000 He's a great striker, isn't he?

00:34:14.000 Not compared to those two.

00:34:15.000 Not to those two.

00:34:15.000 He throws a lot of spinning shit.

00:34:17.000 He throws some wild shit.

00:34:18.000 He's like me compared to Joe Ban in the looks department.

00:34:21.000 It's far off.

00:34:22.000 It's far off.

00:34:23.000 Did you ever throw spinning shit in the UFC? Never.

00:34:26.000 Never?

00:34:26.000 Never!

00:34:28.000 Why?

00:34:29.000 You're super athletic.

00:34:31.000 No one really taught me.

00:34:31.000 I never had a kickboxing coach or a taekwondo coach.

00:34:35.000 No one ever said, every now and then, it's good to have a fucking game over weapon right there.

00:34:42.000 That's a wheel kick, man.

00:34:43.000 No.

00:34:44.000 No one ever taught me that, huh?

00:34:45.000 A lot of fighters, though, don't throw them.

00:34:47.000 I would say 80% still don't throw them, right?

00:34:50.000 A lot of them can't.

00:34:52.000 That's a long-term project.

00:34:53.000 It's a totally different thing to learn.

00:34:54.000 You've got to spend a lot of time on that shit.

00:34:56.000 And it's not exactly, if you're putting it in priorities, spinning wheel kick, it's probably at number It's a long-term project, for sure.

00:35:03.000 Unless it's your shit.

00:35:04.000 That's why, like, it helps if you have a martial arts background to start with when you're a kid, you learn that shit first.

00:35:10.000 It becomes normal.

00:35:11.000 Like, if you see little four-year-olds throwing sidekicks and then wheel kicks, it's hilarious.

00:35:15.000 It's cute.

00:35:15.000 And it's adorable because their legs, they're so used to throwing their legs.

00:35:19.000 Yeah.

00:35:20.000 You know?

00:35:20.000 Like, they throw their legs up in the air and it's normal.

00:35:22.000 And then as they get older and their legs get heavy, their body's used to the dynamic.

00:35:26.000 That's gonna be a good fight.

00:35:28.000 Dude, come on.

00:35:29.000 That's gonna be a crazy fight, son.

00:35:31.000 Habib Nurmagomedov and Tony Ferguson.

00:35:33.000 That's Hagler-Hearns in shape right there.

00:35:34.000 That's going to be sick.

00:35:35.000 Tony's going to fight Johnson again.

00:35:36.000 I was like, what the fuck is this?

00:35:38.000 Let's just settle the fuck down.

00:35:39.000 What happened there?

00:35:40.000 What are the odds that that fight is really going to take place?

00:35:42.000 Zero to not.

00:35:43.000 Yeah, not happening.

00:35:44.000 Nurmagomedov's hurt all the time.

00:35:46.000 Unfortunately, he's super talented, but he's hurt all the time.

00:35:49.000 You think he's going to get hurt again?

00:35:51.000 He easily could get hurt again.

00:35:53.000 Easily.

00:35:54.000 You know what?

00:35:54.000 More likely to get hurt than not, I'd say.

00:35:56.000 Yeah.

00:35:57.000 Which sucks.

00:35:58.000 Yeah, look.

00:35:58.000 People get hurt.

00:35:59.000 You think there's a 50% chance of him getting hurt or 80%?

00:36:03.000 I'd say 60%.

00:36:05.000 That's a lot.

00:36:06.000 That's a Fox card, apparently.

00:36:07.000 That's a lot.

00:36:08.000 On my calendar, at least, that's a Fox card.

00:36:11.000 I don't know if that's going to be an FS1 or a Fox card.

00:36:13.000 I don't think it's an AKA thing, how these guys are getting hurt.

00:36:17.000 I think...

00:36:19.000 Khabib and Kane, they just have so much experience with wrestling and doing combat sports.

00:36:23.000 They're just getting up there, man.

00:36:25.000 They're trying to train like regular dudes and they're getting hurt.

00:36:27.000 Khabib's a young guy.

00:36:29.000 Khabib's a young guy.

00:36:30.000 He has a ton of experience, though.

00:36:31.000 He does.

00:36:32.000 He's undefeated.

00:36:33.000 Wasn't he a world champion, Sabo?

00:36:34.000 World Sabo champion.

00:36:35.000 Master of sports.

00:36:36.000 And what's interesting is when you watch it, yeah.

00:36:40.000 I thought he was just a wrestler.

00:36:43.000 He looks like when you're watching him compete, he looks like a wrestler.

00:36:47.000 His wrestling and his positioning is outstanding.

00:36:50.000 Is he leg-locking people?

00:36:51.000 Not really.

00:36:52.000 He's smashing people on the ground.

00:36:54.000 Those guys in Russia do a lot of Greco, too, though.

00:36:57.000 When you're a samuel guy, you're also doing a lot of Greco, typically. 0.99

00:37:00.000 His clinch is insane.

00:37:02.000 His ability to control from the top is insane.

00:37:05.000 I was going to say about Rockhold the other day.

00:37:08.000 Two fights in a row, Rockhold impressed me in a huge way with his ability to control from the top.

00:37:14.000 Against Machida and then against Weidman.

00:37:16.000 Because Machida was impressive, but I think he had Machida fucked up before they went to the ground.

00:37:19.000 It was a Temple thing, Machida went to the ground. 0.99

00:37:21.000 He destroyed him.

00:37:22.000 I think Machida was already fucked up, but Weidman wasn't.

00:37:26.000 Weidman just caught a wheel kick in a fight where there was a real close fight, but once he got him on the ground, man, God damn it.

00:37:31.000 Just top game.

00:37:32.000 I think he was so much stronger, too.

00:37:35.000 Weidman was walking around at 193, apparently, and Rockhold two weeks before the fight was 216. Technique, too.

00:37:42.000 His technique is nasty.

00:37:43.000 You can't just say size.

00:37:45.000 Sizing isn't going to teach you Jiu-Jitsu.

00:37:47.000 He's also training with, I don't know, Daniel Cormier and Cain Velasquez.

00:37:51.000 That's a huge part of it, man.

00:37:52.000 I think that's a huge part of it, because like Cormier said, when he fought Jon Jones, he didn't have Kane in his corner.

00:37:57.000 Kane was all fucked up from surgery, and he's like, it made a big impact on me.

00:38:00.000 I really felt it.

00:38:01.000 Whether or not that had anything to do with him losing to Jon Jones, you're making that face.

00:38:06.000 I want to see Anthony Johnson and Jon Jones fight.

00:38:10.000 Oh yeah, I want to see that too.

00:38:11.000 That's what I want to see.

00:38:12.000 But Cormier, I want to see him with Kane in his corner, training with him, see if that has any impact.

00:38:19.000 That fight's going down, right?

00:38:21.000 Cain's going through surgery, apparently.

00:38:23.000 He's going to have back surgery.

00:38:24.000 Really?

00:38:25.000 He already had it.

00:38:26.000 He already had it.

00:38:27.000 What do you think about Holman Tate?

00:38:30.000 I think it's a tough fight.

00:38:31.000 That came back surgery is not an easy thing.

00:38:34.000 That's not like a small deal.

00:38:35.000 You're taking pieces of your disc.

00:38:37.000 He's out for a while.

00:38:38.000 He had a discectomy, right?

00:38:39.000 Is that correct?

00:38:39.000 What does that mean?

00:38:40.000 That means the gel that separates your discs.

00:38:43.000 He had a piece of it removed because it was pressing into his nerve.

00:38:46.000 It's a very controversial procedure because some people feel like you don't have to do it.

00:38:50.000 Like Louie Simmons, the guy from Westside Barbell, they wanted to take him and fuse his discs.

00:38:56.000 And that's why he created that machine that I have out back, the hyper...

00:38:59.000 The back...

00:39:01.000 What the fuck's it called?

00:39:02.000 Reverse Hyper.

00:39:03.000 Reverse Hyper.

00:39:04.000 Uh-oh.

00:39:05.000 That's a big glass of wine.

00:39:06.000 You're not mad at that wine.

00:39:07.000 Are you trying to get loose, Eddie?

00:39:08.000 I hear some drums in the background.

00:39:10.000 My favorite Chianti right there.

00:39:11.000 Some tomahawks.

00:39:13.000 Callum brought the fire tonight.

00:39:14.000 Brought the fire.

00:39:15.000 Get involved in that Chianti. 1.00

00:39:16.000 So what do you do with Cain?

00:39:17.000 If he can't fight.

00:39:18.000 You gotta rehab that back, man.

00:39:19.000 I'm not necessarily a big fan of cutting your back right away.

00:39:22.000 I think you gotta take some time off of training and really heal that bitch up correctly. 1.00

00:39:27.000 I'm pretty sure you already had surgery.

00:39:28.000 Well, here's my thoughts, though.

00:39:30.000 If you want to get back into it really quick, that's the way to do it.

00:39:32.000 But long-term health, I'm not entirely convinced.

00:39:37.000 Obviously, I'm not a doctor.

00:39:39.000 But I've recovered from bulging discs.

00:39:42.000 I had a bulging disc in my back that doesn't exist anymore.

00:39:45.000 I had a bulging disc in my neck.

00:39:46.000 It doesn't exist anymore.

00:39:47.000 If you look at an MRI, it looks different.

00:39:49.000 And it's from long-term rehab.

00:39:52.000 I had to take a lot of time off of rolling.

00:39:54.000 I had to do spinal...

00:39:57.000 Decompression.

00:39:58.000 I did it in an office with a chiropractor at first, and then I got some machines where you could strap them up, some mechanical shit you strapped to your door at your house.

00:40:05.000 I went through Regenikine injections.

00:40:08.000 I went through a lot of rolfing and breaking apart scar tissue that was pulling on everything, and everything was all fucked up and tightened up.

00:40:16.000 It was just like years and years of wear and tear.

00:40:18.000 But now, through that and through yoga, I don't have any of those issues anymore.

00:40:22.000 They're gone.

00:40:23.000 So...

00:40:24.000 I don't know what his, how bad his was, but I know mine was my fucking hands were numb.

00:40:29.000 You know, my left hand was going numb.

00:40:31.000 That bad?

00:40:31.000 Yeah, my fingers, my two fingers, my ring finger and my pinky finger were going numb.

00:40:36.000 So let me ask you this, Joe.

00:40:37.000 What do you do with the heavyweight division?

00:40:38.000 You have Verdum fight a guy like Roth I think what Kane should concentrate on, if I was Kane, I mean, get your body completely fucking healthy.

00:40:48.000 There's a lot of people that have like severely criticized his strength and conditioning videos that are online.

00:40:53.000 I don't know if he works with this guy anymore, but he was working with a guy that was like the strength and conditioning coach and he had him doing these- I haven't seen it.

00:40:58.000 You haven't seen this?

00:40:59.000 No.

00:40:59.000 Oh my god.

00:41:00.000 Pull up- Is he doing some bullshit?

00:41:01.000 Oh yeah.

00:41:02.000 Pull up.

00:41:03.000 Kane does 200-pound kettlebell swings.

00:41:07.000 His form is, according to Steve Maxwell and according to a bunch of other respected kettlebell trainers, completely wrong.

00:41:15.000 That's not good.

00:41:15.000 And this guy's got him lifting this insane weight and doing this completely wrong.

00:41:19.000 Almost like a shrug.

00:41:20.000 Jesus Christ.

00:41:20.000 200 pounds?

00:41:21.000 Yeah, it's like 200 plus.

00:41:21.000 Good way to blow your asshole out.

00:41:23.000 I think it's more than 200. I think it's 200 plus.

00:41:25.000 Here it is.

00:41:25.000 It's 203 pounds.

00:41:27.000 This is his training.

00:41:28.000 I'm telling you the reviews on YouTube by people that seem to know what the fuck they're talking about.

00:41:34.000 Watch this.

00:41:35.000 His trainer looks like Fred Flintstone.

00:41:37.000 But look at this.

00:41:37.000 What he's doing.

00:41:38.000 He's doing a shrug.

00:41:39.000 That's not a swing.

00:41:40.000 That's not a swing at all.

00:41:41.000 It's not a swing.

00:41:42.000 Yeah, no wonder your back's fucked up, sir.

00:41:44.000 You can totally get fucked up doing this.

00:41:46.000 The fuck is that?

00:41:47.000 It's wrong.

00:41:48.000 And the guy had him doing leg extensions.

00:41:50.000 Well, look, the guy's obviously a big fucking guy himself.

00:41:53.000 That doesn't mean shit.

00:41:54.000 I mean, this is better than doing nothing, right?

00:41:56.000 I disagree.

00:41:57.000 But it's not optimal.

00:41:59.000 It's not the best technique.

00:42:00.000 Dude, that is the biggest kettlebell ever.

00:42:03.000 100%.

00:42:03.000 It's a big-ass kettlebell.

00:42:04.000 That looks like one of those bouncy balls that my son has.

00:42:07.000 Yeah, man.

00:42:07.000 Dude, all he's doing is swinging and then doing like an upright row.

00:42:11.000 Yeah, well, it's a shrug.

00:42:12.000 It's like he swings, he gets to where his dick is, and then he shrugs it. 0.95

00:42:15.000 It's like a shitty shrug up right row.

00:42:17.000 It sure as fuck not a kettlebell swing.

00:42:19.000 It's not a kettlebell swing.

00:42:19.000 And it's probably not good for you.

00:42:22.000 It doesn't look right.

00:42:23.000 And Steve Maxwell was furious.

00:42:25.000 When Steve Maxwell saw it, he was almost essentially calling it malpractice.

00:42:31.000 That looks horrible.

00:42:31.000 I don't have a degree in it, but that looks terrible.

00:42:34.000 I've been around the weight room my entire life.

00:42:35.000 That looks fucking terrible.

00:42:36.000 What you got with Kane is you got a fucking super athlete.

00:42:39.000 A guy who just do what you tell him and fucking push through everything.

00:42:41.000 And that's probably one of the reasons why he's been injured.

00:42:44.000 It's because he's pushed through some pain that maybe he should have laid off of.

00:42:49.000 I don't know.

00:42:50.000 Maybe a discectomy for him is perfect.

00:42:52.000 Maybe it's perfect.

00:42:53.000 Maybe it's a real simple thing.

00:42:55.000 Maybe it's only sticking out a little bit on one side.

00:42:57.000 If they trim it, he'll be back to training in four weeks.

00:42:59.000 I don't know.

00:42:59.000 But I know that for a lot of people, you can get real hasty and make a decision to jump into surgery and it's not the best decision.

00:43:10.000 Especially when there's a lot of money on the line.

00:43:11.000 Well, you have to fight, though.

00:43:13.000 That's the thing.

00:43:14.000 For a lot of these guys, like, they might have to fight in six months.

00:43:16.000 So you would have to get the surgery because, realistically, with six months of therapy, you might not be ready again yet.

00:43:22.000 Dude, he has to fight before six months.

00:43:24.000 The heavyweight belt's on your weight six months.

00:43:25.000 Well, if his health is on the line, he doesn't.

00:43:28.000 Flying arm triangle.

00:43:29.000 If his health is on the line, man, this guy's good, man.

00:43:32.000 What weight is this?

00:43:33.000 Is this heavyweight?

00:43:34.000 205. This is the main card?

00:43:36.000 No, yeah.

00:43:37.000 Mishka Sirkunov is the Russian guy.

00:43:42.000 He's a stud, man.

00:43:43.000 A couple one-two bodies on him.

00:43:46.000 That was pretty brutal.

00:43:48.000 Good hair.

00:43:48.000 Good hair on that guy.

00:43:50.000 I'm just saying, Joe, if he's out six months, you're going to have to have the title.

00:43:54.000 But he doesn't have the title.

00:43:55.000 You're going to have to do Steve Bear Rothwell.

00:43:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:57.000 You would do both of them in that time that it takes him to realistically come back.

00:44:01.000 Yes.

00:44:02.000 But he's got to, I don't know, he's got to be careful.

00:44:05.000 He's just, he's still fairly young.

00:44:07.000 I mean, I think Kane's like, what, 34?

00:44:09.000 34?

00:44:09.000 Yeah.

00:44:09.000 He has a lot of experience.

00:44:11.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:44:11.000 Like it catches up.

00:44:12.000 But he could realistically fight at the highest level for the next three years.

00:44:17.000 Not with these injuries.

00:44:19.000 I don't know.

00:44:21.000 It's real controversial, but in my experience talking to different doctors, there's doctors that say you should get surgery and there's doctors that say you should absolutely not get surgery until you've exhausted all the options.

00:44:33.000 Either way, he still won the greatest of all time.

00:44:35.000 Heavyweights.

00:44:35.000 Easily.

00:44:36.000 Well, Jake Shields, they were telling him he was fucked.

00:44:38.000 What happened here?

00:44:39.000 They were telling him he couldn't fight again, he should stop training.

00:44:42.000 And he was really mad.

00:44:43.000 He's like, these fucking doctors are so negative, man.

00:44:45.000 Because first of all, they're just regular doctors, used to dealing with regular people.

00:44:49.000 A lot of them not used to dealing with elite athletes.

00:44:51.000 And guys who are willing to go through the kind of rehab that a guy like Jake Shields is willing to go through.

00:44:55.000 Like some serious fucking pain and discomfort.

00:44:59.000 But he got through it.

00:45:00.000 He's fighting now.

00:45:02.000 He just backed out of his fight in the World Series.

00:45:04.000 Apparently it's a contract thing.

00:45:06.000 Yep.

00:45:07.000 Do you know the full details?

00:45:08.000 I don't.

00:45:09.000 Apparently what it is is it's a title fight.

00:45:12.000 So if he fights for the title because Paul Harris gets stripped.

00:45:15.000 They stripped Paul Harris after the John Fitch fight because...

00:45:19.000 They say he held it too long, right?

00:45:21.000 Was it a Fitch fight?

00:45:21.000 Yeah.

00:45:22.000 I thought he...

00:45:22.000 No, no, no.

00:45:23.000 He got bands.

00:45:24.000 Gouging his eyes.

00:45:26.000 Yeah, stripped him after that.

00:45:28.000 But here's the thing about the eye gouge.

00:45:30.000 You either stop the fight while it's happening...

00:45:33.000 Yeah, you don't let it go.

00:45:34.000 You can't see.

00:45:35.000 And then to strip him afterwards for eye gouges?

00:45:39.000 That's weird.

00:45:39.000 That's super unprecedented.

00:45:41.000 Well, maybe they saw tape and realized he was dragging his finger through it.

00:45:45.000 He was hiding what he was doing.

00:45:47.000 It was different than Travis Brown and Mitrione.

00:45:49.000 Travis Brown and Mitrione is very evident.

00:45:51.000 Replays, everyone saw it.

00:45:53.000 They're just like, ah, you're good.

00:45:54.000 Just keep on with one eye.

00:45:55.000 Paul Harris is a cheater.

00:45:56.000 He was cheating.

00:45:56.000 He was definitely sticking fingers in the eye.

00:45:59.000 That was a real issue.

00:45:59.000 He's a bad guy.

00:46:00.000 But what people got mad about was the Kimura.

00:46:02.000 He held the Kimura, but I don't think that was that bad because the referee was in the wrong place.

00:46:06.000 The referee fucked up.

00:46:08.000 The referee's tapping his back.

00:46:09.000 You're expecting him to recognize that that's the referee tapping his back in the middle of a ferocious cage fight.

00:46:14.000 The referee's supposed to be in between the two of them. 0.96

00:46:16.000 He's supposed to stop it.

00:46:17.000 If it was a normal guy...

00:46:18.000 He's notoriously known for it.

00:46:20.000 Exactly.

00:46:20.000 He's done it so often.

00:46:21.000 But if it was a normal guy, like if it was you, if you had Mitrione in that same position, you hit that Kimura and you held it for that long while the referee was tapping you, I do not think you'd get the same kind of grief.

00:46:29.000 I agree.

00:46:30.000 I think you would say, I was in the middle of the fight.

00:46:32.000 I didn't even realize the referee was tapping me.

00:46:33.000 I didn't see him.

00:46:34.000 Because the referee's in the wrong place.

00:46:35.000 The referee in that position is supposed to get in between the fighters. 0.99

00:46:38.000 He's supposed to be in front so he can look him in the eye while Pajaras has that Kimura.

00:46:42.000 He was out of place.

00:46:43.000 He was over here.

00:46:44.000 He's supposed to be over here.

00:46:45.000 What about Paul Harris vs.

00:46:47.000 Gary Tonin and Polaris?

00:46:49.000 Goddamn, I love that.

00:46:49.000 Polaris 3. Where's that taking place at?

00:46:52.000 How gangster is Gary Tonin?

00:46:53.000 Holy shit.

00:46:54.000 I hope Gary Tonin beats him.

00:46:56.000 Polaris is a jujitsu show, a jujitsu event held in England.

00:47:02.000 It's kind of like Metamorris.

00:47:03.000 They have a bunch of single matches that are submission only.

00:47:07.000 And I think if there's no submission, it ends up being a draw at the end.

00:47:09.000 20 minutes?

00:47:10.000 It's just like Metamorris in that respect.

00:47:12.000 I think 15, 20 minutes, something like that.

00:47:14.000 And they put on great shows, great matchups.

00:47:17.000 And, man, Gary Tonin is taking on Paharis.

00:47:20.000 I saw that.

00:47:20.000 That is so fucking gangster.

00:47:23.000 I agree.

00:47:23.000 When I saw him, I was scared.

00:47:25.000 He's the only guy that's asking for Paul Harris.

00:47:29.000 Nobody wants Paul Harris.

00:47:30.000 This is just in jiu-jitsu, right?

00:47:32.000 Nobody.

00:47:32.000 The last five guys that have fought Paul Harris, it's because they offered the fucking fight to him.

00:47:37.000 No one was going after him.

00:47:39.000 And in grappling?

00:47:40.000 Can you imagine if he leg locks Poharis? 1.00

00:47:42.000 What if he leg locks Poharis? 1.00

00:47:44.000 It's highly possible that he's going to leg lock Poharis. 0.86

00:47:47.000 But it gives you an idea how good Jake Shields was because he was beating Poharis up on the ground. 0.89

00:47:51.000 He was controlling his body completely.

00:47:53.000 Oh, Jake Shields is very good.

00:47:54.000 He's unbelievable.

00:47:55.000 Jake Shields is one of the best.

00:47:57.000 Gary Tonin, though?

00:47:58.000 When we saw him at your event, I can't remember the last time I saw something like that.

00:48:03.000 He was eating these dudes up.

00:48:05.000 Well, that leg lock game, that John Donaher leg lock game is very high level, man.

00:48:10.000 Him and Eddie, Eddie Cummins, both those guys are fucking wizards, man.

00:48:14.000 And Donaher apparently is a wizard, too.

00:48:16.000 I've never seen Donaher roll, but everybody says he's so goddamn stupid.

00:48:20.000 Smart.

00:48:21.000 It all started with Dean Lister.

00:48:22.000 Dean Lister went to Henzo's in late 90s, 2000, 2001, and Dean Lister came into the jiu-jitsu world already as a Sambo guy.

00:48:30.000 So he was always the guy, even as a white belt, as a blue belt in Southern California.

00:48:35.000 Dean, we grew up together in the jiu-jitsu world.

00:48:37.000 He was always that leg lock dude.

00:48:39.000 That Sambo guy who got into jiu-jitsu.

00:48:42.000 So that dude, Dean Lister, goes on to win Abu Dhabi, absolute leg-locking fucking everybody.

00:48:48.000 That knee bar that he hits Salo Ribeiro with, holy shit, in 2003, watch that shit.

00:48:55.000 The knee bar he hits Salo Ribeiro.

00:48:57.000 Salo Ribeiro is like one of the best ever, one of the greatest jiu-jitsu players ever.

00:49:02.000 And that knee bar that he got him with was insane. 0.99

00:49:05.000 Gary Tonin, I don't know what the current rankings are, but is he number one?

00:49:08.000 In person, he might be the best I've ever seen.

00:49:10.000 There's no real official rankings.

00:49:13.000 I've never seen anything like it.

00:49:15.000 There's a point game, and then there's a submission-only game.

00:49:17.000 But let me finish really quick.

00:49:18.000 So that guy, Dean Lister, he goes to Henzo's, and Danaher's there.

00:49:23.000 Danaher's Henzo's little prodigy.

00:49:25.000 And he leaves an impression with Danaher.

00:49:28.000 I'm sure he left a couple...

00:49:31.000 Oh, man, he's out.

00:49:32.000 Ooh, he fucked his jaw up.

00:49:34.000 And then Danaher took what he learned from Dean Lister, and he just blew that shit up, and Danaher's like a scientist.

00:49:40.000 I think he's a physicist or something.

00:49:42.000 Danaher's a rock underarm shirt or jeans.

00:49:44.000 He has his PhD in philosophy.

00:49:45.000 Something like that.

00:49:46.000 He has his PhD in philosophy, and Henso used to give him...

00:49:49.000 Henso back...

00:49:50.000 This is literally, I don't know, about 2003 or whatever.

00:49:53.000 Henso, when somebody would come in to kind of challenge, and somebody was really good, he would kind of casually give...

00:50:00.000 John, he'd say, roll with John for a while and see how you do first.

00:50:03.000 And John would just, you'd watch him tap these dudes, like these really good Sambo guys or whoever they were, and he'd just, like he was moving in slow motion.

00:50:11.000 He's a minimalist, right?

00:50:13.000 Yeah, he's just really smart, man.

00:50:15.000 He was a bodybuilder or a powerlifter type physique at one point in time.

00:50:20.000 And then he was working as a bouncer and he wanted to learn martial arts to deal with in bouncing situations.

00:50:28.000 He realized, I should probably have some skills.

00:50:30.000 That's insane.

00:50:31.000 I had no idea.

00:50:32.000 He doesn't look like it now, but he's still obviously very strong.

00:50:34.000 If you look at him, he's thick and fit, but apparently he used to be really big.

00:50:38.000 Damn, I saw my UFC event.

00:50:39.000 He was at the bar afterwards, and he had on a fucking rash guard and some jeans tucked in.

00:50:45.000 He wore a rash guard.

00:50:46.000 No fucks given either. 0.60

00:50:47.000 He does it all the time.

00:50:47.000 That's for his wedding.

00:50:48.000 That's his thing.

00:50:49.000 He wears rash guards everywhere.

00:50:50.000 He did?

00:50:50.000 Yeah.

00:50:51.000 So gangster.

00:50:52.000 I always see him every time.

00:50:53.000 He was in Whole Foods in New York.

00:50:55.000 Look who he's created.

00:50:56.000 Eddie Cummings, Gary Tonin.

00:50:58.000 Because Gary Tonin went to Henzo's to train with Danner.

00:51:01.000 And he didn't have any leg locks.

00:51:03.000 He was all rear naked choke.

00:51:04.000 He had his basic.

00:51:05.000 He was already a black belt.

00:51:06.000 He went to Danner.

00:51:07.000 That's when he started learning the leg locks from him.

00:51:09.000 And through Eddie Cummings.

00:51:11.000 Him and Eddie Cummings just became best friends and training partners.

00:51:14.000 I was so impressed with Gary Tonin, man.

00:51:16.000 I took privates from John Danner.

00:51:18.000 Did you?

00:51:18.000 Yes.

00:51:19.000 Like, probably five, six.

00:51:21.000 And now they got this new guy, Gordon Ryan, who just got his black belt.

00:51:24.000 He's fucking amazing as well.

00:51:25.000 That's the new guy.

00:51:26.000 You're gonna hear about Gordon Ryan.

00:51:27.000 He's got monsters at Henzo's, huh?

00:51:28.000 Yes.

00:51:29.000 You know who's another leg lock master that people forget?

00:51:33.000 Dave Terrell.

00:51:34.000 You remember Dave Terrell versus Ricardo Almeida in 2003 in Abu Dhabi?

00:51:38.000 I don't remember that.

00:51:39.000 Dude, Dave Terrell had some nasty ass fucking leg locks.

00:51:43.000 Dave Terrell was so explosive.

00:51:45.000 I've heard legendary stories about him in the training room.

00:51:48.000 He's the best ever.

00:51:50.000 Seeing him compete, watching him in Abu Dhabi, I always expected he was going to be UFC champion because he went into MMA and started smashing people.

00:51:57.000 He knocked out Matt Lindland in the first round.

00:51:59.000 But Evan Tanner got him.

00:52:01.000 And he also had a series of catastrophic ear injuries.

00:52:04.000 He had to have his ear removed from his head.

00:52:07.000 He had staff inside his head.

00:52:10.000 From his ear.

00:52:11.000 His ears were just gonzo, right?

00:52:14.000 They were like these just fucking ashtrays on his head, hard as a rock, just all cauliflowered up. 0.75

00:52:20.000 But apparently, like, just years and years of hard training, he got an infection inside his ear.

00:52:25.000 And they had to take it off his body.

00:52:26.000 They had to take his whole fucking ear off his head, clean it all out, like, try to fuse it and swab it and cauterize it to get it to stop oozing pus.

00:52:36.000 You know you trannel out when your ear falls off.

00:52:39.000 Didn't work.

00:52:40.000 They had to do it again.

00:52:41.000 He went through like...

00:52:43.000 When your ear is fucked, have you ever had an earache or a real bad ear function?

00:52:48.000 Your equilibrium's off.

00:52:50.000 You can't do shit.

00:52:51.000 He's like a mythical creature in NorCal.

00:52:54.000 I have so many crazy stories about that guy.

00:52:56.000 I saw him compete.

00:52:57.000 I was like, that fucking guy moves like a ghost.

00:53:00.000 He's fast as fuck.

00:53:02.000 And his students, one of them, Joe Soto, they're so good at leg lock defense.

00:53:07.000 Joe Soto, generally when you game plan against Eddie Cummings, the game plan is stay away from any kind of footsie battles.

00:53:16.000 You don't want to battle with Eddie.

00:53:18.000 That's the game plan.

00:53:19.000 Avoid it.

00:53:20.000 Try to do the super basic jujitsu strategy like what I think it was Lucas Dupree in Abu Dhabi did to Gary Tonin.

00:53:29.000 It was either Lucas Dupree or Leandro Lowe.

00:53:31.000 I get those guys mixed up all the time.

00:53:33.000 But one of those guys in Abu Dhabi went against Gary Tonin and he just straight knee slice, boom, stayed tight, stayed in side control, top half.

00:53:42.000 Titan never let Gary get anywhere near his legs.

00:53:45.000 You know, that's the game plan against a leg lock guy like Eddie Cummings.

00:53:49.000 That's it.

00:53:49.000 You try to play footsies with him, you're retarded.

00:53:52.000 But Joe Soto, he went in there in the finals at EBI 3. He went in there and just said, he sat on his ass and said, I'm going to play footsies with Eddie Cummings.

00:54:00.000 And it worked for a long time.

00:54:02.000 Everybody was just blown away.

00:54:04.000 It's like, how the fuck is he leaving his legs out there for, you know, Eddie Cummins, Grafter's legs, and Joe Soto just displayed just this incredible defense, his leg lock defense.

00:54:15.000 I was reffing going, what the fuck?

00:54:18.000 Is he really playing footsies with Eddie Cummins?

00:54:20.000 He ended up getting caught.

00:54:22.000 Eddie Cummins did catch him, but...

00:54:25.000 He showed tremendous fucking savagery for going in there and playing legs with him.

00:54:31.000 And I talked to him afterwards and he said, dude, I roll with Dave Terrell all the goddamn time.

00:54:35.000 That guy's always after our legs. 1.00

00:54:37.000 Are you kidding me?

00:54:38.000 We're used to this shit.

00:54:39.000 Yeah, it's kill or be killed if you're in a leg lock type academy. 1.00

00:54:42.000 Speaking of submissions.

00:54:43.000 But Cummings knees all fucked up now.

00:54:44.000 How about your boy Barnett and Rothwell?

00:54:47.000 Insane.

00:54:47.000 Who the fuck called that?

00:54:48.000 Insane.

00:54:49.000 Insane.

00:54:49.000 Huh?

00:54:50.000 Insane.

00:54:51.000 Apparently when Rothwell gets a hold of your neck, he just knows how to squeeze that choke.

00:54:53.000 Well, he was showing me what he got him in.

00:54:55.000 Ugh, that's horrible.

00:54:56.000 I don't know how his hands are, though.

00:54:57.000 I don't know how he's gripping his hands.

00:54:58.000 I don't know how it is either.

00:54:59.000 It's a ten-finger guillotine, essentially, but his jiu-jitsu coach wanted to call it a go-go choke.

00:55:04.000 Horrifying.

00:55:05.000 Because it goes against your throat, sort of like a go-go plata.

00:55:09.000 There's no one hotter in the UFC division, heavyweight division right now, than Rothwell's the beast.

00:55:14.000 He's the beast.

00:55:14.000 Good luck beating that guy right now with that confidence.

00:55:16.000 Stipe's the beast too, though.

00:55:17.000 It's real close.

00:55:18.000 After Stipe destroyed Orlovsky like that, Stipe's right in there, man.

00:55:23.000 We'll face Mickey Gall later this year.

00:55:25.000 Yeah, Mickey Gall apparently won earlier tonight.

00:55:27.000 Yeah, he did.

00:55:28.000 I was hearing a lot of criticisms about the fight.

00:55:31.000 They had a face-off.

00:55:32.000 Yeah.

00:55:33.000 CM Punk walked in.

00:55:34.000 He was the first prelim ever to have a face-off.

00:55:36.000 I just feel like...

00:55:37.000 I don't know why he would want to do that.

00:55:39.000 I feel like if he was smart, he would just start fighting in small organizations.

00:55:45.000 I get that you want to get a lot of money because the UFC is where it's at with money.

00:55:51.000 But I would think the smart move is what he's already done training-wise.

00:55:55.000 Go to a real camp.

00:55:56.000 He goes to Rufus. 0.55

00:55:57.000 Perfect.

00:55:58.000 Rufus is going to teach him how to strike as good as anybody in the world.

00:56:02.000 And then you got real good wrestling with Ben Askren.

00:56:04.000 You got real good jiu-jitsu.

00:56:06.000 You got everything there.

00:56:07.000 Everything.

00:56:08.000 Everything there.

00:56:08.000 He's fine.

00:56:09.000 I heard they offered him to go through the Tough show.

00:56:12.000 And he's like, nah, man, I'm trying to go right to the show.

00:56:15.000 So I think Tough would have been better for him.

00:56:16.000 Yeah.

00:56:17.000 You get ratings.

00:56:18.000 We see how he does.

00:56:19.000 He gets warm-up.

00:56:19.000 And then, you know, then he goes.

00:56:21.000 But for your first fight to be in that octagon, good fucking luck, man.

00:56:24.000 Who's Mickey Gauzy Tough?

00:56:25.000 Well, he's a newcomer.

00:56:27.000 They found him on that looking for a fight show on HBO on YouTube in a small organization.

00:56:33.000 What are you looking for, Eddie?

00:56:34.000 He's a brown belt.

00:56:36.000 Brown belt's significant.

00:56:37.000 Is he a brown belt?

00:56:38.000 That's what I read earlier today after he won.

00:56:40.000 I didn't see him fight.

00:56:41.000 He won by submission.

00:56:42.000 They said he was a brown belt.

00:56:43.000 I heard blue and purple.

00:56:45.000 The UFC said brown belt, so I don't know.

00:56:48.000 Well, he might have got his brown right before the fight.

00:56:51.000 Either way, that's three more belts ahead of CM Punk.

00:56:54.000 That shit goes to the ground.

00:56:56.000 Yes.

00:56:56.000 That's a big difference.

00:56:58.000 Who knows what CM Punk's been able to do.

00:57:00.000 He's been training for over a year.

00:57:02.000 Dude, can you imagine if CM Punk goes in and just gets murked?

00:57:05.000 It'd be like from the Waterboy when Michigan put in the Waterboy, the actual Waterboy.

00:57:08.000 He certainly could, right?

00:57:11.000 He could totally get murked.

00:57:13.000 Who knows if this kid can strike?

00:57:14.000 If he can strike, if the kid has good jiu-jitsu and he can strike, good luck learning how to strike in a year.

00:57:20.000 Jesus.

00:57:20.000 If a guy doesn't have any striking under him, can you imagine?

00:57:23.000 Or wrestling or jiu-jitsu?

00:57:25.000 Some dude who's got some serious knockout power and you're going to practice for a year.

00:57:29.000 That's ridiculous.

00:57:30.000 Dude, I like CM Punk as a person, but for the sport, I think it's best if he gets murked.

00:57:36.000 Is that fucked up?

00:57:37.000 And that's going to make headlines?

00:57:38.000 I'm happy when anybody says it gets murked.

00:57:40.000 Me too.

00:57:41.000 I like when you go, get starched.

00:57:44.000 I forget.

00:57:44.000 Is there anything worse?

00:57:45.000 You and I are arguing about Rumble and Jon Jones.

00:57:47.000 You never know, man.

00:57:49.000 Rumble could starch him.

00:57:50.000 And when he said starch, I was like, oh.

00:57:52.000 He could.

00:57:53.000 Rumble could starch anybody.

00:57:54.000 Anybody in the world.

00:57:55.000 Rumble can hit you on the temple and your shit could just go boing, boing, boing.

00:57:59.000 I think Jon mobs the floor.

00:58:01.000 He has the biggest head, the longest steepie I've ever seen on Rumble.

00:58:03.000 He could.

00:58:04.000 Rumble's head is gigantic.

00:58:05.000 It's a big fucking head.

00:58:06.000 If he connects against Jon Jones, it's...

00:58:08.000 I don't think he will, though.

00:58:09.000 I think Jon takes him down, wears him out, and takes his heart.

00:58:12.000 People forget that Stipe got stopped by Skyscraper.

00:58:15.000 Stefan Struve, back in the day.

00:58:17.000 Knocked him out.

00:58:17.000 Yeah.

00:58:18.000 Did an inside leg kick, boom!

00:58:20.000 Knocked him out.

00:58:20.000 Stefan Struve, man, he's had some real tough fights.

00:58:23.000 There's a guy who's had some real tough fights.

00:58:25.000 He's had some, like, brutal knockout losses.

00:58:27.000 Horrible losses.

00:58:28.000 And he's seven foot tall.

00:58:29.000 For sure played basketball.

00:58:31.000 Back in the day, the kid had some mad potential, and still does.

00:58:35.000 He's only 26, 27, right?

00:58:36.000 He has so many fights, though, man.

00:58:38.000 His age is not what I count.

00:58:40.000 I count he has, what, 40 fights, some shit?

00:58:42.000 Yeah, he's had some ruthless knockouts inside the Oxagon.

00:58:45.000 And when's the last time you saw a seven-foot-tall grandpa?

00:58:47.000 Anyone.

00:58:48.000 Go.

00:58:49.000 They don't live long.

00:58:50.000 Anybody?

00:58:51.000 No, they don't.

00:58:52.000 Although we still have one giant guy.

00:58:53.000 And he has heart conditions.

00:58:54.000 No.

00:58:54.000 Yeah, they all have heart conditions.

00:58:56.000 They're just too big.

00:58:57.000 I wonder if they can mitigate that today.

00:58:59.000 I wonder if they understand what it is.

00:59:01.000 Nah, you're dying.

00:59:17.000 I'm on the back nine for sure.

00:59:19.000 Well, you know what, though?

00:59:20.000 Honestly, do you really want to live past 80?

00:59:22.000 Fucking right, I do.

00:59:23.000 What kind of dog shit, arthritis-ridden existence is that?

00:59:27.000 Oh, my brain will be open.

00:59:29.000 Former athlete past 80?

00:59:31.000 Oh, good lord.

00:59:32.000 You're fucked.

00:59:34.000 Think about that.

00:59:36.000 I said, 40 years from now, who the fuck knows what kind of crazy medicine you're going to have?

00:59:41.000 Yeah, my son goes, Daddy, what's going to happen when I'm 45?

00:59:46.000 And he asked me that for real, and I said, shit.

00:59:49.000 You'll be a computer.

00:59:50.000 I'm probably going to be dead.

00:59:52.000 That's what I said.

00:59:53.000 I just don't want to be dead when you come out with this technology.

00:59:55.000 I thought about that.

00:59:56.000 He's going to be 45. Look at that, son.

00:59:58.000 April 23rd.

01:00:00.000 Sorry, I just got to call this out.

01:00:02.000 April 23rd.

01:00:03.000 I'm GM. John Johns has been lifting weights.

01:00:06.000 Hey, I love how John's lifting weights.

01:00:08.000 Everyone's like, nah, he's a good guy now.

01:00:10.000 Everything's all good.

01:00:12.000 Why?

01:00:12.000 Because he posts pictures lifting weights?

01:00:14.000 He's a fucking monster now.

01:00:16.000 Damn.

01:00:18.000 John Johns is ridiculous.

01:00:20.000 Good luck beating him. 0.83

01:00:22.000 Yeah.

01:00:24.000 And I don't think Rumble's going to wait for a title shot.

01:00:27.000 He said he's not.

01:00:28.000 I wouldn't wait to eat if I was Rumble.

01:00:30.000 I would.

01:00:31.000 Get some quick work in.

01:00:32.000 And if he got busted with coke again...

01:00:34.000 Dude, Ryan Bader, I love the guy where he said, oh shit, that ain't snowflake.

01:00:38.000 That motherfucker came right in, shot a low single, and just stayed on it. 1.00

01:00:41.000 And also...

01:00:41.000 Hanging on to a Kimura.

01:00:43.000 Damn, look at this.

01:00:44.000 Against a big guy, Cejudo.

01:00:46.000 Oh, shit.

01:00:47.000 Johnson versus Cejudo.

01:00:48.000 Oh, that's happening.

01:00:49.000 That's the co-main event.

01:00:50.000 This is the first time hearing of this.

01:00:51.000 Is that the Olympic wrestler?

01:00:53.000 Well, yeah.

01:00:53.000 The gold medalist, right?

01:00:55.000 Yeah.

01:00:55.000 The gold medalist.

01:00:57.000 He said, those guys are super small.

01:00:59.000 He's a fucking beast.

01:01:01.000 I was like, I was going, ooh.

01:01:02.000 125. Oh, that's right, 125. That's the girls division. 0.98

01:01:06.000 Those guys are quick!

01:01:07.000 That's what I say.

01:01:09.000 What were we talking about?

01:01:10.000 This guy's a scramble.

01:01:11.000 What were we talking about?

01:01:12.000 They can hustle.

01:01:14.000 They can hustle.

01:01:15.000 They better be.

01:01:15.000 What were we just talking about?

01:01:17.000 Cormier.

01:01:18.000 Cormier, Rumble.

01:01:19.000 And John Jones.

01:01:20.000 Oh, quick work.

01:01:21.000 Ryan Bader.

01:01:22.000 Oh, fuck.

01:01:22.000 Him trying to finish that Kimura.

01:01:24.000 That's a hard move to pull off on a strong dude as it is.

01:01:27.000 Right?

01:01:28.000 A guy as strong as Rumble who's on top and you don't even have half guard.

01:01:31.000 He panicked, I think.

01:01:31.000 Because he had no control of his legs.

01:01:33.000 When he was holding onto it, he had to do something with his legs.

01:01:35.000 He just didn't have the dexterity to get into a position like a half guard or something and then get up to the dogfight, right?

01:01:41.000 Rumble said, what the fuck is this?

01:01:43.000 He got empty half at one point, right?

01:01:45.000 He climbed up the full mount.

01:01:47.000 Well, the problem is he's so fucking strong.

01:01:50.000 Explosive, too.

01:01:51.000 And in the beginning of the round, he's 100%.

01:01:53.000 He's not even remotely tired.

01:01:55.000 I jumped a guard on his ass.

01:01:56.000 And he's on your back.

01:01:57.000 Or he's got you on your back.

01:01:59.000 He's on top of you.

01:02:00.000 And you know one of those punches is going to change your life.

01:02:03.000 One punch.

01:02:04.000 Just one.

01:02:05.000 You gotta be really good on your back.

01:02:06.000 That's all that is.

01:02:07.000 You gotta be really fucking nervous.

01:02:08.000 Or you take him down.

01:02:09.000 It looked grim.

01:02:10.000 Like Jon Jones is going down.

01:02:11.000 It looked grim right there.

01:02:12.000 He couldn't take him down.

01:02:14.000 He tried to take an ankle pick.

01:02:15.000 No, I'm saying Jon Jones is gonna take Rumble down.

01:02:17.000 Maybe.

01:02:18.000 I promise you he's gonna inside trip him, take him down.

01:02:21.000 He might.

01:02:21.000 He's gonna break him and then TKO him.

01:02:23.000 He might.

01:02:24.000 He might not.

01:02:24.000 Man, you're so confident.

01:02:26.000 Yeah, how could you say that?

01:02:27.000 You're so confident.

01:02:28.000 Who the fuck knows what's going to happen?

01:02:29.000 Damn.

01:02:29.000 That's what I think's going to happen.

01:02:30.000 Rumble is getting better and better, and now that he's training with Neil Melanson, he's getting his grappling in order.

01:02:34.000 I hear you, Joe.

01:02:34.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:02:35.000 He's a monster.

01:02:36.000 He's a monster.

01:02:36.000 Johnson, was Johnson a Juco champion?

01:02:38.000 He's going to get hypnotized.

01:02:40.000 He might.

01:02:40.000 You thought about it.

01:02:41.000 He was the champion.

01:02:43.000 He might.

01:02:43.000 He has the skills to starch anyone, in the words of Joe Rogan, but...

01:02:47.000 Yeah, he's got the skills to stiffen them all up.

01:02:50.000 It's whether or not he can apply it against the very best of the best.

01:02:53.000 But he's at this edge.

01:02:55.000 Like, I don't think he's done improving.

01:02:56.000 So he's at this edge right now where only a guy like Cormier can beat him.

01:03:00.000 Because everybody else, Jimmy Manoa, everybody gets the fuck beat out of him.

01:03:03.000 Gustafson gets the fuck beat out of him.

01:03:05.000 I disagree!

01:03:06.000 They fight?

01:03:06.000 I think it's 5-5.

01:03:08.000 That's a good fight.

01:03:09.000 Gustafson?

01:03:09.000 Gustafson got headbutted.

01:03:10.000 Gustafson and Rumble Johnson's a good fight, matchup-wise.

01:03:13.000 Gustafson got headbutted, actually.

01:03:15.000 They had one fight, and he...

01:03:17.000 He got starched.

01:03:17.000 Yeah, he smashed him.

01:03:19.000 Yeah, I know.

01:03:19.000 I'm saying that doesn't happen every time.

01:03:21.000 I don't know, man.

01:03:22.000 I don't know what happens every time.

01:03:24.000 You've got a good point.

01:03:25.000 What makes you think that that wouldn't happen again?

01:03:26.000 No one knows.

01:03:27.000 It might not happen every time, but with the data that we have currently available...

01:03:36.000 Scary guy who knocks everybody dead.

01:03:38.000 He knocked him dead.

01:03:41.000 And so you gotta think, okay, first of all, the kind of beating that Gustafson took in that fight, you don't want to take again.

01:03:47.000 I agree.

01:03:47.000 That was a bad beating.

01:03:48.000 How about the data with DC Anthony Johnson?

01:03:50.000 Brace, he broke him.

01:03:52.000 He definitely broke him.

01:03:53.000 So when I see a guy break, now I look at Jon Jones, who's broken everybody, including DC, broke DC. Let's not get it twisted.

01:04:00.000 That's a good point.

01:04:01.000 Let's look at the data we have here.

01:04:03.000 Yes, we're assuming.

01:04:04.000 According to the data.

01:04:05.000 Right, but we're not talking about him.

01:04:07.000 We're talking about Gustafsson.

01:04:08.000 I know.

01:04:09.000 Jamie, pull up that headbutt though. 0.91

01:04:12.000 Yeah, but that was a monster fucking fight.

01:04:14.000 It definitely looks like they collided.

01:04:16.000 And everybody can get broken.

01:04:18.000 Everybody can get broken.

01:04:20.000 There's always going to be a guy that's going to break you.

01:04:23.000 There's always going to be multiple guys that can break you.

01:04:25.000 No, the great ones don't get broke.

01:04:26.000 Because they don't fight anybody that much better than them.

01:04:29.000 Because they're great.

01:04:30.000 Vince Lombardi said, fatigue makes cowards of us all.

01:04:35.000 It does.

01:04:36.000 For sure.

01:04:37.000 Look how fatigued John was against Gustvin.

01:04:40.000 Of men, right?

01:04:41.000 Yeah.

01:04:42.000 I've thought of that all the time.

01:04:44.000 Yeah, it makes me a pussy.

01:04:46.000 When you're tired, I turn into such a pussy. 1.00

01:04:48.000 Oh, yeah.

01:04:48.000 Cardio.

01:04:49.000 Cardio, shit.

01:04:50.000 Are you kidding?

01:04:51.000 But you know what, man?

01:04:52.000 I've been getting into this straight cardio over the last few months.

01:04:56.000 I've been doing these hardcore cardio workouts just because I hate them.

01:04:59.000 What are you talking about?

01:05:00.000 What kind of cardio?

01:05:01.000 These ridiculous sprints.

01:05:02.000 Not like a Tabata protocol, but I do a 30-second on, 30-second off on an elliptical machine.

01:05:07.000 I adjust it from 16, which is pretty hard, pretty stiff, to 20, which is like you're wrestling this fucking thing.

01:05:14.000 And I'll do these death sprints.

01:05:17.000 30 and 30?

01:05:17.000 That's good.

01:05:18.000 For how many, though?

01:05:19.000 You have 30 on, 30 off?

01:05:20.000 It depends on what I'm trying to do.

01:05:23.000 But I do a 45-minute workout.

01:05:26.000 And what I'm doing, the 45-minute workout, the first 15 minutes, I'm just getting everything ramped up.

01:05:30.000 So the first 15 minutes, there's no sprints.

01:05:32.000 The first 15 minutes, just keeping it on 16 and going at a very fast pace.

01:05:37.000 Then once I get to the first 15 minutes and I'm sweating, then it's death runs.

01:05:42.000 I go on these 30-second death runs.

01:05:44.000 For a whole 30 minutes.

01:05:45.000 Depending upon how long I can last, how many death runs I can do.

01:05:49.000 Because sometimes I can't do the death runs.

01:05:51.000 I just have to just pace myself at 16. But then when I feel like I've got my heart rate down, because my elliptical thing has got a little heart rate thing.

01:05:59.000 What kind of elliptical do you have that can take this fucking beast of a workout?

01:06:03.000 Well, they all can.

01:06:04.000 Everybody uses elliptical machines.

01:06:06.000 They just kind of go steady.

01:06:08.000 But if you go on a death run, you gotta go on a save your life, save your loved one, save your mom from fucking- Who makes you do that, though?

01:06:15.000 I do it.

01:06:16.000 I just do it.

01:06:17.000 No, but I mean like- Who makes you?

01:06:19.000 Like when you sprint.

01:06:19.000 When you sprint.

01:06:20.000 My inner insecurity of being weak.

01:06:22.000 Can't you think you're sprinting, but you're like, during the sprint time, you're like, you know what?

01:06:27.000 No, man, I'm fucking sprinting.

01:06:28.000 I'm going as fast as I can, whatever.

01:06:30.000 No, there's a number.

01:06:31.000 There's a number of revolutions per minute.

01:06:33.000 And I want to keep it above a certain number.

01:06:35.000 I don't remember what it is at 180 or at 20. But it's somewhere where you want your heart rate to be somewhere around 180. And I forget what the revolutions are because they're different on the one that I use at the gym versus the one that I use at home.

01:06:48.000 But you can have a number where you can keep it at that number.

01:06:51.000 So it's like 147, I think.

01:06:53.000 So when you hit 147, you just got to fucking keep it there for that 30 seconds.

01:06:58.000 And it's big, deep Wim Hof breaths the whole time.

01:07:01.000 It's just...

01:07:03.000 And just wrestle this thing for 30 seconds. 0.72

01:07:06.000 You know what's a nightmare?

01:07:06.000 And then relax.

01:07:07.000 Yeah.

01:07:07.000 You know what's a nightmare is setting just a little something.

01:07:10.000 Set the treadmill at 15 incline and put it at 4 miles an hour and walk.

01:07:16.000 Walk for 15 minutes.

01:07:18.000 Try to stay on that pace.

01:07:19.000 It's hard.

01:07:20.000 It's hard.

01:07:20.000 It'll kill you.

01:07:21.000 Have I talked about the cardio I did for metamorphosis?

01:07:25.000 Yeah, the sprinting in the pool.

01:07:26.000 Yeah.

01:07:27.000 It's awesome.

01:07:28.000 Yeah, but death runs.

01:07:29.000 Death runs and recovery.

01:07:31.000 That's what it's all about.

01:07:32.000 The thing about the pool thing, though, is the way I did it was there's a giant clock, and every time it hits 12, you sprint across the pool.

01:07:41.000 So when you get to the end of the pool, whatever's left in that minute, you get to rest.

01:07:46.000 So when you're doing that, No one has to tell you bust ass.

01:07:51.000 You're busting ass to rest.

01:07:53.000 Because you know after...

01:07:55.000 The first maybe six laps are easy.

01:07:59.000 As soon as the clock hits 12, you bust ass across the pool.

01:08:02.000 You sprint.

01:08:02.000 You get past and it's like you got 35 seconds to rest.

01:08:05.000 And then you rest and you do it back.

01:08:07.000 As soon as it hits the 12, boom.

01:08:09.000 After like 12, you're dead in the pool.

01:08:12.000 And no matter how chaotic your breathing is, you got...

01:08:16.000 No matter how tired you are you got to keep your breathing on point because to swim your shit so you got you're like dying But at the same time there's something in your mind that you're on dude Survival mode you're dying, but your breathing's got to be perfect that you're gonna swallow water You're gonna swallow water and you that to me was super fucking crucial.

01:08:36.000 It's great for grappling.

01:08:37.000 Yeah, exactly wrestling with no matter what and You're breathing.

01:08:41.000 No matter how chaotic your situation is, you practice breathing in chaotic situations.

01:08:48.000 Because if you hiccup at all, you swallow water.

01:08:52.000 This is a good fight.

01:08:53.000 Zach Makovsky and Joseph Benavidez.

01:08:55.000 This is a very good fight.

01:08:56.000 I've been looking forward to this.

01:08:58.000 Benavidez gets another title shot, you think?

01:09:00.000 Maybe.

01:09:00.000 He's down at Muscle Farm, and he's training with Bang again.

01:09:03.000 Doing all his training with Bang.

01:09:05.000 I don't know what's going on with those guys in Sacramento.

01:09:08.000 What's happening?

01:09:09.000 How often they're going to...

01:09:11.000 Him and Lance Palmer have been bouncing all over.

01:09:13.000 I don't mean to cut you off, Joe.

01:09:14.000 Him and Lance Palmer have been bouncing all over.

01:09:16.000 They went to Jackson's.

01:09:17.000 They went to Muscle Farm.

01:09:18.000 At Muscle Farm, they've got a hell of a team down there.

01:09:21.000 TJ, Lance Palmer, Benavidez, Neil Magny, Thatch.

01:09:25.000 Well, Benavidez has got to do what he's got to do.

01:09:27.000 I mean, he doesn't have many years left.

01:09:28.000 I think he's in his 30s as well.

01:09:30.000 I think he's 34. But at 125, well, what if he loses to McCoskey tonight?

01:09:39.000 He beats this guy, I bet.

01:09:40.000 Maybe.

01:09:41.000 McCoskey just took him down.

01:09:42.000 I agree.

01:09:42.000 Let's say he fights DJ for a third time and he loses.

01:09:45.000 Hey, man, we can't do four.

01:09:47.000 I'm sorry, we can't do four.

01:09:48.000 We've got to move on.

01:09:49.000 Well, what does he do then?

01:09:51.000 That's a real question.

01:09:52.000 Open the gym.

01:09:53.000 Did you see fucking Justin Scoggins today?

01:09:56.000 Yes.

01:09:57.000 Jesus Christ.

01:09:58.000 Hell yeah.

01:09:59.000 Jesus Christ.

01:10:00.000 He looks fantastic.

01:10:01.000 Justin fucking Scoggins.

01:10:03.000 Holy shit.

01:10:04.000 Goddamn.

01:10:05.000 Dude.

01:10:06.000 Yes.

01:10:06.000 That karate style?

01:10:08.000 I didn't know shit about him, dude.

01:10:09.000 I'm not like you guys.

01:10:10.000 I'm not like an encyclopedia right now.

01:10:11.000 There's too many UFCs.

01:10:12.000 I can barely keep up.

01:10:14.000 I didn't know who the fuck he was, but I saw him for the first time today, the prelim.

01:10:17.000 Oh, man.

01:10:17.000 And I was thinking, holy shit.

01:10:20.000 Against Ray Borg.

01:10:22.000 Ray Borg's a motherfucker.

01:10:23.000 Shit.

01:10:24.000 Before the fight started, they had mentioned, because Scroggins thinks he has the best movement in MMA. And I'm like, oh my motherfucking God, how retarded can this guy be? 1.00

01:10:33.000 The best movement in MMA? You fucking retard! 1.00

01:10:38.000 And then after one round, I'm like, okay, he might have a point here.

01:10:42.000 Let me see another round! 0.99

01:10:44.000 Can you keep the pace?

01:10:46.000 And then he looked really good on the ground.

01:10:49.000 His ground looked decent.

01:10:50.000 His wrestling was good.

01:10:51.000 And his striking was just like coming from all sorts.

01:10:54.000 He's fighting left-handed.

01:10:55.000 He's fighting right-handed.

01:10:56.000 He's throwing every kick and spinning everything.

01:10:59.000 Like, holy shit!

01:11:01.000 He's one of the best guys at standing in that sideways karate-style stance and using the front leg, too.

01:11:06.000 Front leg sidekicks your thigh. 0.95

01:11:08.000 Front leg sidekicks your body. 0.81

01:11:09.000 Super talented.

01:11:10.000 I don't know if Brian Stan was correct or not, but he was talking about how...

01:11:14.000 And I don't know, like I said, I don't know anything about Scroggins, but Brian Stan was saying that when he fights...

01:11:20.000 Southpaw, he fights more karate, and when he fights orthodox, he's fighting more Muay Thai or something like that.

01:11:27.000 When he's fighting right hand, this style.

01:11:29.000 When he's fighting left hand, this style.

01:11:30.000 Like, holy shit, how cool is that?

01:11:32.000 That's a great style, but he changes it up.

01:11:36.000 Like, right here, I feel good Muay Thai.

01:11:38.000 Right here, I'm a karate guy.

01:11:39.000 Well, you know why?

01:11:39.000 Like, holy fuck!

01:11:40.000 That's amazing!

01:11:41.000 Because his sideways stance allows him to use that front leg.

01:11:45.000 So if you're fighting a guy that doesn't know, like, that style, he can get away with a lot of shit.

01:11:49.000 Like, if you're used to a guy who's fighting Muay Thai style with that light front leg and more of a closed-off stance, You can get away with that with a Muay Thai guy, but with a karate guy, he'll stand sideways.

01:12:02.000 He'll stand sideways and throw those fucking front leg sidekicks, and you don't know what to do.

01:12:07.000 He throws them from way outside.

01:12:10.000 A lot of these Muay Thai style guys, they're standing right in front of each other.

01:12:13.000 That's the thing.

01:12:14.000 Forward backwards, north-south.

01:12:15.000 He's all over the place.

01:12:18.000 It's tough to train for, man.

01:12:19.000 I've never heard of anybody describe a fighter like that.

01:12:22.000 Have you ever heard of that before?

01:12:24.000 I think Scoggins probably told him that.

01:12:26.000 He probably had a conversation with him about the different ways he utilizes it.

01:12:30.000 But have you heard that before?

01:12:30.000 I've never heard that before.

01:12:32.000 But it makes sense if you see how good he is.

01:12:33.000 There's a lot of guys that switch, but they switch, they're playing the same shit.

01:12:37.000 This guy has two different characters.

01:12:39.000 Like, holy shit!

01:12:41.000 Well, you know who else is super versatile at being able to switch back and forth?

01:12:46.000 Connor.

01:12:47.000 Connor's a wizard.

01:12:48.000 I was going to say, former Strikeforce champion, just fought, welterweight, goddammit.

01:12:58.000 Yes, Tarek Safferdeen.

01:12:59.000 Tarek Safferdeen is a wizard at going back and forth.

01:13:01.000 Karate stage is so good.

01:13:03.000 Is he a Dutch kickboxer?

01:13:05.000 What is he?

01:13:05.000 No, not Dutch.

01:13:07.000 He is from...

01:13:08.000 Germany.

01:13:09.000 He's a German kickboxer.

01:13:10.000 No, not from Germany.

01:13:10.000 He's Turkish.

01:13:11.000 Turk, I think, is Turkish, right, Stephanie?

01:13:13.000 No, no.

01:13:13.000 I want to say Belgium.

01:13:15.000 Yes, he's from Brussels.

01:13:16.000 Yeah, it's Belgium.

01:13:16.000 That's correct.

01:13:16.000 He's from Brussels.

01:13:18.000 He's from where Van Damme is.

01:13:21.000 Muscles from muscles.

01:13:21.000 Well, there you go.

01:13:22.000 I fucking love me some Van Damme.

01:13:23.000 And there you go.

01:13:24.000 I love me Van Damme.

01:13:25.000 He's the reason I fought, man.

01:13:26.000 I want to meet him.

01:13:28.000 I've seen him a couple times.

01:13:30.000 That Van Damme movie was brilliant.

01:13:32.000 I've seen him a couple times in Venice.

01:13:34.000 Have you seen that movie?

01:13:34.000 And he's got tight jeans on always.

01:13:36.000 A beautiful butt.

01:13:37.000 And a fanny pack.

01:13:38.000 And a fanny pack, son.

01:13:39.000 A bubble butt with a fanny pack.

01:13:41.000 Back in the day, he wore a fanny pack.

01:13:42.000 No, he still has one.

01:13:43.000 He still rocks one?

01:13:43.000 He lives in Marina del Rey.

01:13:44.000 I live in Marina del Rey.

01:13:45.000 I see him all the time driving.

01:13:54.000 We should have him on a companion.

01:13:57.000 We should have him on a companion.

01:13:59.000 He's a great guy.

01:14:01.000 I only wear silk underwear.

01:14:02.000 He lives near here?

01:14:03.000 Marina Del Rey.

01:14:06.000 Jean-Claude Van Damme on this show would be fucking amazing.

01:14:10.000 When I come back, when I decide to make my comeback against the Thai world champion.

01:14:15.000 He's been talking about making a comeback for like 10 years.

01:14:17.000 Did he actually fight?

01:14:18.000 No.

01:14:18.000 Listen to me.

01:14:19.000 He was a dancer.

01:14:20.000 If you want to see something that is amazing that no one talks about, you need to watch the Jean-Claude Van Damme reality show.

01:14:26.000 Oh, I watch it.

01:14:27.000 It is fucking wonderful.

01:14:27.000 I've never seen it.

01:14:29.000 You talking about JBCD? It's so crazy.

01:14:31.000 The movie was great.

01:14:31.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:14:32.000 I've never seen that.

01:14:34.000 It's a reality show.

01:14:35.000 The reality show is insanity in motion.

01:14:38.000 I love that you've seen this.

01:14:39.000 Where is it?

01:14:41.000 I made my wife watch it with me. 0.97

01:14:43.000 What's it like?

01:14:44.000 Or YouTube.

01:14:45.000 I'm like, come watch how crazy people can be.

01:14:47.000 It's on YouTube!

01:14:47.000 It's the best.

01:14:48.000 Well, I think it aired in another country.

01:14:50.000 Showtime picked it up.

01:14:51.000 It might have aired.

01:14:52.000 Showtime picked it up.

01:14:53.000 That's awesome.

01:14:54.000 What is revealed?

01:14:55.000 Ridiculous.

01:14:56.000 He's amazing?

01:14:57.000 He keeps talking about having this fight that he's been scheduling for years.

01:15:00.000 He's this Thai guy.

01:15:01.000 He pays this Thai guy, gives him a little scratch.

01:15:03.000 My friend, come on, hugging.

01:15:05.000 We're never fighting.

01:15:06.000 We're never fighting.

01:15:06.000 Don't touch my face!

01:15:07.000 Don't touch my face! 0.65

01:15:09.000 And he pretends he's gonna fight this guy and they fucking knuckle up.

01:15:11.000 They have these press conferences.

01:15:13.000 He goes, I've got to fight for the children.

01:15:16.000 He's batshit crazy.

01:15:17.000 He does this speech about having to fight for the children.

01:15:20.000 I'm done with the cocaine.

01:15:21.000 I'm done with this.

01:15:22.000 I'm done with the party.

01:15:24.000 That motherfucker needs better friends. 1.00

01:15:26.000 He's incredible.

01:15:26.000 What he does is he gets gacked.

01:15:29.000 He gets gacked to the gills on coke, and he goes to parties with Russian oligarchs.

01:15:34.000 Is that true?

01:15:36.000 They fly him out to Chechnya, he goes to a fucking disco with a fucking champagne bottle in both hands, and he wakes up in the morning and he feels bad.

01:15:43.000 He feels bad that the children have done this to the children.

01:15:46.000 I'm going to fight to show them.

01:15:48.000 I still have it.

01:15:50.000 You gotta watch it.

01:15:51.000 Dude, I gotta watch it.

01:15:52.000 JC may be on the show.

01:15:54.000 He's bad shit crazy.

01:15:55.000 That's never gonna happen now.

01:15:55.000 He's bad shit crazy.

01:15:56.000 No!

01:15:56.000 He will have it.

01:15:57.000 He still loves me.

01:15:58.000 Hey, how's he flying private?

01:15:59.000 How's he flying private everywhere?

01:16:00.000 He's a bad motherfucker.

01:16:01.000 He's got money and everybody made it.

01:16:03.000 He made a lot of movies, dude.

01:16:05.000 A lot of money.

01:16:05.000 That last movie was great.

01:16:06.000 He made a lot of money.

01:16:07.000 Yeah, but that last movie probably made eight dollars.

01:16:09.000 He paid $70 for that last movie.

01:16:12.000 All those other movies that he made his whole life, if he was just reasonably frugal, he has hundreds of millions of dollars.

01:16:18.000 He's got a lot of money.

01:16:18.000 Really?

01:16:18.000 Oh my god.

01:16:19.000 A lot of money.

01:16:20.000 How much money did he make over his career?

01:16:21.000 Time Cop, baby.

01:16:22.000 That was Blockbuster.

01:16:23.000 How dare you?

01:16:24.000 Time Cop.

01:16:26.000 I remember when it was a Blockbuster.

01:16:28.000 I went to go see it on that Friday night and we had to get the early blood sport.

01:16:33.000 Here's something you have to consider.

01:16:34.000 He's Elvis in Eastern Europe.

01:16:35.000 Here's something you have to consider.

01:16:36.000 Ownership of the movies.

01:16:37.000 Sales of the movies.

01:16:38.000 He existed back in the day where people bought DVDs.

01:16:42.000 Oh shit, this is a good fight.

01:16:43.000 Makovsky on top.

01:16:44.000 He existed back in the day of Blockbuster.

01:16:46.000 Back in the day where people would buy movies.

01:16:48.000 So you get a percentage You get a percentage of that?

01:16:50.000 You get a percentage of that.

01:16:50.000 You get a percentage of it when they sell it to Showtime, HBO, Cinemax, TVS, all that shit.

01:16:55.000 He got a percentage of all that.

01:16:56.000 I guarantee you.

01:16:58.000 He was producing, he was a part of the ownership of those films.

01:17:02.000 He might have made an ungodly amount of money.

01:17:05.000 Yeah.

01:17:05.000 Brian, could you beat up John Carlson?

01:17:07.000 How much did he make?

01:17:08.000 Jamie.

01:17:08.000 I don't think anybody can beat up John Carlson.

01:17:09.000 Hold on, Jamie.

01:17:10.000 Jamie.

01:17:11.000 I'm seeing a lot of information online, but something I just found said he is the...

01:17:17.000 Top 10 highest paid actors for 2016 with an estimated $82 million in combined earnings.

01:17:22.000 Fuck off!

01:17:23.000 But let's look at his overall earnings.

01:17:24.000 That's what I'm asking.

01:17:25.000 He's still making money?

01:17:25.000 He made $82 million last year?

01:17:27.000 Dude, I'm telling you.

01:17:28.000 No wonder he's doing coke.

01:17:29.000 Sales.

01:17:30.000 $245 million.

01:17:33.000 $245 million.

01:17:33.000 Come on.

01:17:34.000 $1 million.

01:17:35.000 I'm telling you.

01:17:35.000 If you gave me $100 million, I'd do a little coke every now and then.

01:17:38.000 He still looks good.

01:17:39.000 He still looks good.

01:17:39.000 I saw him flying private.

01:17:41.000 I was like, oh, he's being stupid with his money.

01:17:42.000 No, he's fine.

01:17:43.000 No, he's balling.

01:17:44.000 No, he's fine.

01:17:45.000 Dude, he's Scrooge McDuck Rich.

01:17:46.000 He owns a football team and vodka.

01:17:48.000 And perfume.

01:17:49.000 He does?

01:17:49.000 Yes.

01:17:50.000 A lot of money in football.

01:17:52.000 No wonder he's still fighting!

01:17:53.000 Jean-Claude Van Damme!

01:17:55.000 I got two million dollars!

01:17:57.000 Vive! 0.85

01:17:57.000 Vive Jean-Claude Van Damme! 0.85

01:17:59.000 You bitches need to stay in your lane. 1.00

01:18:01.000 I love that guy.

01:18:04.000 He's my hero.

01:18:05.000 He's got so much money he could pay the guy to fight where they can choreograph.

01:18:09.000 He's paying them to show up and choreograph the fight.

01:18:11.000 They don't choreograph a fight, but they choreograph press conferences.

01:18:14.000 He would fuck up everyone in this room.

01:18:16.000 I think maybe he's thought about actually fighting about three or four times, but most of the time, what it is, is just getting together and saying that you're thinking about fighting, and you've got to schedule a fight, but I have movies to attend to.

01:18:28.000 Did you ever see the deposition he did?

01:18:29.000 He blinded somebody in one of his movies with a wheel kick, and he had to do a deposition at a trial about how...

01:18:37.000 Look at him.

01:18:38.000 Look at him.

01:18:38.000 Fuck, he's brilliant.

01:18:39.000 Look at him.

01:18:40.000 Hey, who's better looking, him or Jody?

01:18:41.000 That's not real.

01:18:42.000 Oh, he's definitely not as good-looking as Alan now.

01:18:45.000 How dare you?

01:18:45.000 But back in the day...

01:18:46.000 I'm saying now.

01:18:47.000 Prime.

01:18:47.000 Prime Jean-Claude Van Damme.

01:18:48.000 In the day, it was really close.

01:18:50.000 Yeah, let's not get crazy, though.

01:18:52.000 Jean-Claude Van Damme all day.

01:18:53.000 No, he ain't doing Versace.

01:18:55.000 Fuck!

01:18:56.000 He's got a great number.

01:18:57.000 I don't see none of that shit.

01:18:58.000 There's no one better-looking than Alan Joban.

01:19:00.000 They're just different.

01:19:02.000 You don't get better-looking.

01:19:03.000 You just don't.

01:19:05.000 McCoste's on Benavides' back!

01:19:07.000 Oh shit, look at this.

01:19:09.000 Meanwhile, we don't have any idea who won.

01:19:11.000 If any of you fuckers try to say, Benavidez get robbed or Bacardi got robbed...

01:19:18.000 No, I've been watching it!

01:19:19.000 I think Benavidez is ahead!

01:19:20.000 If the decision comes out, we would do a worse job than, you know, name your least favorite judge.

01:19:28.000 I got Benavidez ahead because he's...

01:19:30.000 Oh, shut the fuck up! 1.00

01:19:31.000 You had your right shoulder turned to the screen the entire time.

01:19:35.000 No, I can feel it.

01:19:36.000 I can feel it.

01:19:37.000 I can feel it.

01:19:38.000 Do you have the jeans on?

01:19:39.000 Do you put the jeans on, man?

01:19:40.000 Take those sweats off.

01:19:42.000 Put those jeans on right now, sir.

01:19:43.000 I got Brian Callen a pair of the barbell jeans, so props to barbell jeans.

01:19:47.000 Eddie Bravo just took the second large glass of vino.

01:19:50.000 This is not a large glass.

01:19:52.000 Large.

01:19:53.000 Large.

01:19:54.000 How is this large?

01:19:56.000 How is that large?

01:19:57.000 Well, if you were in a fine restaurant.

01:19:58.000 Dude, that's a double, son.

01:20:00.000 Come on, man.

01:20:01.000 This would be like a kid's glass.

01:20:04.000 He pours a slight sipping thing.

01:20:06.000 This is a delicious wine, by the way.

01:20:08.000 They are really nice.

01:20:09.000 That's the best can't eat there.

01:20:10.000 Let me tell you something about Callan.

01:20:12.000 This motherfucker knows his wine.

01:20:14.000 I've gone to dinner with him, and he gets in a conversation with this sommelier.

01:20:17.000 It's the best.

01:20:17.000 And he says, what do you have in a Burgundy from 97?

01:20:22.000 And the guy goes, oh shit, this motherfucker's for real.

01:20:26.000 Yeah, bitch. 1.00

01:20:26.000 And then Callan will start talking about different grapes that are grown on different hillsides, and he'll explain. 1.00

01:20:32.000 Guys, what the fuck, man?

01:20:32.000 He'll explain some shit to the Somalia.

01:20:35.000 We ate at this restaurant and the Somalia was like, yes, correct, that's correct. 1.00

01:20:40.000 He started talking about...

01:20:42.000 Oh my god, I gotta work on your technique.

01:20:45.000 Your sidekick is...

01:20:46.000 You gotta pick your knee up higher.

01:20:48.000 I think Jean-Claude Van Damme wears those too, though, for sure.

01:20:52.000 You have to put your knee up higher.

01:20:53.000 They look good, baby.

01:20:55.000 It has nothing to do with stretching.

01:20:57.000 You just haven't thrown a sidekick in a while.

01:20:59.000 It's a little rusty.

01:21:02.000 You can do it.

01:21:03.000 Are you going to put your socks on before you kick?

01:21:06.000 Why do you want to put your socks on?

01:21:08.000 Does that help your kicking?

01:21:09.000 You like to kick with shoes on?

01:21:12.000 Do you still wear those shiny shoes so that you can throw roundhouse kicks quicker because you pivot?

01:21:21.000 If you have a shiny soul, like, that's terrible.

01:21:25.000 You gotta pick your knee up.

01:21:27.000 You have a, no, see, it's not bad, but you have an inherent flaw in your technique that probably was never, never explained to you.

01:21:36.000 For 49, though, it ain't bad.

01:21:39.000 That's pretty good.

01:21:40.000 It's not right.

01:21:41.000 I wouldn't want to get hit by that.

01:21:43.000 I wouldn't want to get hit by that.

01:21:44.000 You'd get hit in the dick.

01:21:45.000 Yeah, if you got hit right in the shaft.

01:21:47.000 That's where you would get hit.

01:21:49.000 Oh, shit.

01:21:53.000 Brian's throwing spinning kicks right now.

01:21:56.000 Dude, it's wrong.

01:21:58.000 Those jeans are helping though.

01:22:01.000 Are you being serious there?

01:22:03.000 Are you being serious?

01:22:04.000 Show me a real front leg sidekick.

01:22:06.000 For real.

01:22:06.000 The best I can do right now.

01:22:07.000 All bullshit.

01:22:08.000 Well, just this from here.

01:22:10.000 Yeah, yeah, just throw it. 0.99

01:22:12.000 Let me see the spinning one though.

01:22:14.000 Show them the spinning one.

01:22:15.000 My wheel kick.

01:22:16.000 Yeah, it's my favorite that he does.

01:22:18.000 It's my favorite.

01:22:20.000 Oh, how dare you! 0.99

01:22:22.000 All you have to do is different.

01:22:23.000 All you're doing wrong is you're coming up, your foot is going up from the ground in almost like a half moon.

01:22:30.000 You want to get your knee up higher.

01:22:33.000 That's one of the cool things about those jeans.

01:22:35.000 Way higher than that.

01:22:36.000 That's one of the cool things about those jeans.

01:22:37.000 Yeah, these jeans that we're wearing, they're like sweatpants, man.

01:22:42.000 No, no, no.

01:22:42.000 Don't throw the kick until your knee is up.

01:22:45.000 Get your knee up first and then throw the kick.

01:22:47.000 The problem is you're doing both at the same time.

01:22:49.000 No, no, no.

01:22:50.000 Don't throw the kick until your knee is up high.

01:22:52.000 Lift your knee up way high past your waist and then throw the kick.

01:22:55.000 Yes.

01:22:56.000 Knee up first and then don't look over your stomach.

01:22:59.000 Look over your shoulder.

01:23:02.000 Yeah, but knee first. 0.99

01:23:04.000 Here, hold on.

01:23:05.000 This is fucking hysterical.

01:23:07.000 This is ridiculous.

01:23:08.000 This is so stupid.

01:23:12.000 I can't watch it.

01:23:14.000 I can't watch.

01:23:15.000 Are you getting this on video?

01:23:18.000 My barbell jeans got me pumped.

01:23:19.000 I'm about to.

01:23:20.000 Joe's gonna go off here.

01:23:21.000 Dude, jeans on jeans on jeans.

01:23:23.000 Lift egg up.

01:23:24.000 Up here.

01:23:25.000 Up here.

01:23:25.000 You're so flexible.

01:23:26.000 Fight companion.

01:23:27.000 From here, turn your shoulder to the right.

01:23:30.000 Turn your shoulder to the right.

01:23:31.000 To the right.

01:23:31.000 Now extend.

01:23:32.000 Extend.

01:23:33.000 Extend.

01:23:33.000 Straight.

01:23:33.000 Don't look over your stomach.

01:23:34.000 Look over your shoulder.

01:23:35.000 Like this.

01:23:36.000 Like this.

01:23:37.000 Like that.

01:23:37.000 That's how you look.

01:23:38.000 That's the end.

01:23:39.000 I'm not flexible anymore.

01:23:40.000 You are flexible.

01:23:41.000 You're fine.

01:23:42.000 Look, right from here.

01:23:42.000 Watch.

01:23:44.000 Oh, son.

01:23:45.000 Damn.

01:23:46.000 Even in the air.

01:23:47.000 Even in the air, fucking Chuck Norris is blushing.

01:23:51.000 Lift your knee up and then kick.

01:23:53.000 I still think Jean-Claude Van Damme beats the fuck out of both of you.

01:23:56.000 Knee up first, then kick.

01:23:57.000 Watch.

01:23:57.000 One, two.

01:23:59.000 Okay, ready?

01:24:00.000 I'm not mad at Joe's form at all.

01:24:02.000 No.

01:24:03.000 No, one and then two.

01:24:05.000 One.

01:24:05.000 Up.

01:24:06.000 Up.

01:24:07.000 Now twist. 1.00

01:24:08.000 Twist.

01:24:09.000 That's it.

01:24:10.000 But don't look over your stomach.

01:24:11.000 I don't know what the fuck's wrong.

01:24:12.000 I know Jean-Claude Van Damme would be proud.

01:24:15.000 What are you doing with your shoulder?

01:24:16.000 Look.

01:24:17.000 I'm throwing it up here.

01:24:19.000 Yeah, I'm like this.

01:24:21.000 I'm never like this.

01:24:22.000 Look at Joe's ass when he throws the kick.

01:24:24.000 Just focus on his ass. 1.00

01:24:25.000 Dude, I was just looking at it.

01:24:26.000 Don't look at the foot.

01:24:27.000 He has a set of honey...

01:24:28.000 Don't look at the foot.

01:24:29.000 ...honey do's on it.

01:24:29.000 Look right into the glutes.

01:24:31.000 Look deeply into them.

01:24:33.000 Dude, I'd love to see our actual taekwondo match between Callen and Rogan.

01:24:37.000 That's better.

01:24:39.000 I would just stare at their asses. 1.00

01:24:41.000 Dude, my barbell chains make me a fucking monster.

01:24:44.000 They're awesome, right?

01:24:45.000 Yeah, when you see my kicks...

01:24:47.000 You see my...

01:24:48.000 I'm out of breath.

01:24:49.000 It's just fundamentally a little off.

01:24:52.000 Yeah.

01:24:52.000 A little bit.

01:24:53.000 It's been years.

01:24:53.000 You get there.

01:24:54.000 But that thing is everybody fucks that up.

01:24:57.000 Everybody fucks that up.

01:24:58.000 It's the number one thing about the sidekick that people get wrong.

01:25:01.000 And it changes everything.

01:25:02.000 If you learn to do it right, you learn to get that knee up high, the power difference is fucking substantial.

01:25:07.000 Is it too late to learn when you're 40?

01:25:09.000 No!

01:25:10.000 49, son!

01:25:11.000 No, you just gotta do it right.

01:25:13.000 Hey, Callan, with Rogan's help, you could be the best.

01:25:16.000 All right.

01:25:16.000 You're the best!

01:25:17.000 I could be the best!

01:25:19.000 I could be the best!

01:25:22.000 Dear Diary, today...

01:25:24.000 Listen, you just can't...

01:25:25.000 It's up to you, bro.

01:25:27.000 Here's the thing.

01:25:28.000 You don't just throw it.

01:25:29.000 You have to throw it right.

01:25:30.000 Or don't throw it.

01:25:31.000 You can't be happy with the scoop.

01:25:33.000 Never throw the scoop.

01:25:35.000 Listen, the scoop doesn't exist.

01:25:37.000 You can't do it.

01:25:38.000 If I ever threw a kick like that, I'd be sick for a year.

01:25:41.000 Just run.

01:25:41.000 One year.

01:25:42.000 One year.

01:25:44.000 Don't throw it.

01:25:44.000 What's wrong with Joe?

01:25:45.000 He's still sick?

01:25:46.000 He threw a bad sidekick.

01:25:48.000 It looks like he won.

01:25:49.000 Well, it's not a bad sidekick.

01:25:51.000 It's just you need to learn how to do it right.

01:25:54.000 The knee has to come up high, and then you can do it right.

01:25:56.000 Once I showed you how to do it, you were doing it way better.

01:25:59.000 I'll tell you right now.

01:26:00.000 The last one was the best one.

01:26:01.000 I'll tell you right now, you throw that sidekick with Jean-Claude Van Damme in here, he's going to throw up.

01:26:04.000 He's never coming back.

01:26:05.000 No, dude.

01:26:06.000 You've got to get better.

01:26:08.000 I'm dangerous.

01:26:08.000 It's real simple.

01:26:09.000 You either do it right or you don't do it.

01:26:11.000 And that's the only way to get your technique.

01:26:13.000 I'll be at your house at 5 a.m.

01:26:13.000 tomorrow.

01:26:14.000 Ready for my lesson.

01:26:15.000 There you will.

01:26:17.000 You'll feel it.

01:26:18.000 I'll pad you up like Justin.

01:26:20.000 I put Justin Milos in pads.

01:26:22.000 I hope you pay him well.

01:26:23.000 I pay him well.

01:26:23.000 Well, that's why hitting a heavy bag is good.

01:26:25.000 He's going to be like Freddie Roach in about three years.

01:26:26.000 I have leg pads on him.

01:26:28.000 I have leg pads on him.

01:26:29.000 I have a body pad on him.

01:26:31.000 I don't kick him in the body, though.

01:26:32.000 I only kick him in the tie pads.

01:26:34.000 But I've fucked him up with body shots.

01:26:37.000 Like body shots when the guy's wearing pads.

01:26:40.000 It's so fun.

01:26:41.000 What if it gets to the point where you're paying dudes to not wear pads?

01:26:46.000 Just fucking dudes up.

01:26:48.000 Let me fuck you up. 1.00

01:26:49.000 Don't hit me back.

01:26:51.000 You don't think someone's done that?

01:26:53.000 Of course.

01:26:54.000 You know what I mean?

01:26:55.000 And you just bring them in.

01:26:56.000 You just come in and you take a beating and it'll give you fucking $5,000.

01:27:00.000 Time for the killing.

01:27:01.000 Yeah, you can't do that.

01:27:02.000 I know too much about brain damage.

01:27:04.000 No, not in the head.

01:27:05.000 Head is extra!

01:27:06.000 Who knows what's going on with your liver?

01:27:09.000 Who knows what's going on with your liver when you get fucking, like, when Dos Anjos kick cowboy in the body?

01:27:15.000 And that knee to the body?

01:27:17.000 Dude, you throw one of those spinning heel kicks in someone's body? 0.99

01:27:20.000 Dude.

01:27:21.000 Listen, man.

01:27:22.000 I've seen people get launched across the fucking floor from a turning side kick to the body.

01:27:29.000 They get launched.

01:27:31.000 You hit them right?

01:27:32.000 Is it a back kick somebody well?

01:27:34.000 There's a video of me on YouTube kicking a guy and he soars.

01:27:37.000 There was a video of me doing that and they took it down because that's too dangerous.

01:27:43.000 Makes sense.

01:27:43.000 I slew him.

01:27:45.000 Like a dragon?

01:27:46.000 Yeah.

01:27:48.000 I told you guys.

01:27:50.000 I called it.

01:27:51.000 Love that guy.

01:27:52.000 Oh shit, he was right.

01:27:54.000 I've slain a lot of guys.

01:27:55.000 Dwayne Ludwig in his corner.

01:27:56.000 A kick to the body is always painful because your leg is strong.

01:27:59.000 Even if you have a half-ass kick, you throw a kick to the body, it's usually stronger than most people's punches, unless you're like some Tumanov type character.

01:28:07.000 Also, your shoulder should take the kick around.

01:28:08.000 But when you learn how to kick, and you kick good, a kick to the body is horrific.

01:28:13.000 It's horrific.

01:28:13.000 Especially if your shoulder's a kick.

01:28:15.000 You should work on your kicking nonstop.

01:28:17.000 Dedicate your life to kicking.

01:28:17.000 That's all I'm doing.

01:28:18.000 I cannot do the podcast.

01:28:20.000 Dedicate your life to kicking.

01:28:21.000 I think you can afford to pay dudes so that you fucking... 0.72

01:28:25.000 Hey, it's not going to kill them.

01:28:26.000 You get so rich, you just pay.

01:28:28.000 It might kill them.

01:28:30.000 You got to bring in like 10 guys a session.

01:28:31.000 It might kill them.

01:28:32.000 The way Joe pays.

01:28:34.000 Dudes will only be able to last like 90 seconds tops with Joe. 1.00

01:28:38.000 Joe's going to need at least eight guys.

01:28:39.000 He kicks hard, dude.

01:28:40.000 He's gonna need eight guys a day.

01:28:42.000 At 49, he kicks as hard as anybody.

01:28:43.000 At $5,500 bucks a pop?

01:28:44.000 Shit!

01:28:45.000 I have a few months.

01:28:45.000 That's $10,000 right there.

01:28:46.000 You do kick harder.

01:28:47.000 I've been around kicking for a long time.

01:28:49.000 You kick harder than anybody.

01:28:50.000 Well, I've learned...

01:28:51.000 I can't believe I just said I've been around kicking for a long time.

01:28:53.000 Can you imagine how good that'll feel, dude, if he could do that?

01:28:55.000 If he could just fucking lay him out.

01:28:56.000 You know who kicks hard back in the day?

01:28:58.000 And I was right next to him.

01:29:00.000 Who?

01:29:00.000 I watched Boss Rootin kick the bag.

01:29:02.000 Come on, son.

01:29:03.000 Oh, my God.

01:29:04.000 Boss Rootin?

01:29:05.000 How...

01:29:05.000 Dude, it sounded like somebody was shooting a shotgun.

01:29:08.000 You know who's the strongest I've ever heard kick a bag?

01:29:11.000 Pedro Hizzo.

01:29:12.000 Pedro Hizzo's leg kicks.

01:29:13.000 They scared me more than anything I've ever seen in my life.

01:29:15.000 He's got the widest hips I've ever seen.

01:29:16.000 When I saw him kick the bag at Beverly Hills Jiu Jitsu, all I thought of is just would take one and I'd be over.

01:29:22.000 There's no way I would survive.

01:29:23.000 If he kicked me once in the leg, my shit would just give up.

01:29:25.000 You know who had the hardest kick I've ever seen?

01:29:27.000 Who?

01:29:27.000 Shane Carwin.

01:29:28.000 Well, he's a gorilla.

01:29:30.000 But he never threw him.

01:29:31.000 He was always too tempted to throw him.

01:29:32.000 He wasn't tempted to throw him in the fight because he thought heavyweights could counter.

01:29:36.000 He fucked up so many guys' legs in the gym, they banned him from kicking.

01:29:40.000 He had to stop kicking.

01:29:42.000 Well, that's a terrible idea.

01:29:43.000 Why didn't they fucking pay people the money to go down?

01:29:47.000 Just wear balloons.

01:29:49.000 Didn't Trevor Whitman train him?

01:29:51.000 Why didn't Trevor have him throwing kicks?

01:29:53.000 Because Trevor's a wicked kickboxing coach.

01:29:55.000 He would.

01:29:55.000 They would work on kicks all the time, but then he would never throw it in sparring and do it in fights.

01:29:59.000 Man, that's too bad.

01:30:00.000 His legs were so heavy, he'd like, fuck up your ACL and MCL. Carwin was a fucking freak specimen as far as his skeletal muscular structure.

01:30:07.000 He had to spar him every day for how many years?

01:30:09.000 I can't even imagine.

01:30:11.000 I don't know how you get out of the car.

01:30:13.000 Today I'm going to shoot as far as that.

01:30:15.000 We're stuck in Denver.

01:30:16.000 Not much to do.

01:30:17.000 I was like, I either got to start rapping or play basketball or fucking spar car with.

01:30:23.000 Did you wear a football helmet or something?

01:30:25.000 I would never have done that.

01:30:25.000 A football helmet wouldn't help.

01:30:27.000 Probably wouldn't be a bigger thing for him to hit.

01:30:29.000 Dude, I was living in Boulder and I was training at Amal Easton's and this guy walked in and we were in the middle of class, we were going over drills, and I saw this guy walk in and I'm like, that's not even a real person.

01:30:40.000 My dad can't be a real person.

01:30:41.000 Then I realized it was Carwin.

01:30:42.000 He had this t-shirt on that looked like it probably was made for me.

01:30:47.000 His fucking arms were my thighs, essentially. 0.80

01:30:52.000 He looks like Juggernaut from X-Men.

01:30:54.000 At the time, he had to make 265. He was cutting weight.

01:30:59.000 Yeah, he was cutting a little bit of weight.

01:31:00.000 He was so big.

01:31:02.000 Real quick, Misha Tate's hottest MMA fighter.

01:31:04.000 She's so hot to me. 0.92

01:31:05.000 I agree.

01:31:05.000 A hot set of one-two bitties on her.

01:31:07.000 Oh, she's so hot. 1.00

01:31:08.000 Well, the booty is just out of control. 0.68

01:31:11.000 She's also awesome.

01:31:12.000 She's just a nice person, too.

01:31:13.000 She's sweet.

01:31:14.000 By far the hottest girl, I think, in MMA. She's also just awesome in general. 0.99

01:31:18.000 There's some fucking pretty decently hot ones.

01:31:20.000 Name one hotter than her, though.

01:31:21.000 There's some girl that just started fighting in Bellator that looks really hot. 1.00

01:31:23.000 Really?

01:31:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:31:25.000 There was pictures of her on the ground.

01:31:26.000 I'll tell you what, Tiff Timebomb ain't...

01:31:27.000 I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers and kick me in the face. 1.00

01:31:30.000 Oh, she's hot. 1.00

01:31:30.000 Rose... 1.00

01:31:31.000 Rose is hot.

01:31:32.000 Rose is hot as shit. 1.00

01:31:34.000 Paige Van Zandt's hot. 1.00

01:31:35.000 Once Paige got her ass whooped like that, I'm like, ah, I'm off that train now.

01:31:39.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:31:40.000 How dare you.

01:31:41.000 Rose is adorable.

01:31:43.000 No, Paige, I'm a Paige fan.

01:31:44.000 Don't give me a twist.

01:31:45.000 I'm a Paige fan.

01:31:46.000 But still, Misha Tate, pound for pound.

01:31:48.000 Michelle Waterman is sick.

01:31:50.000 Aren't you guys married?

01:31:51.000 What the fuck?

01:31:52.000 Hey, man.

01:31:52.000 Speak for yourself, old boy.

01:31:54.000 Sorry, guys.

01:31:54.000 Thank you, Eddie.

01:31:55.000 I'm a free agent, son.

01:31:56.000 You're the voice of morality.

01:31:58.000 Oh, really?

01:31:59.000 That's okay.

01:31:59.000 I don't like seeing him when I'm gonna get punched like that.

01:32:02.000 Well, enjoy this kick then, son.

01:32:05.000 Oh, shit!

01:32:06.000 Oh, shit!

01:32:09.000 They try everything in their power not to show that.

01:32:12.000 Like, fuck!

01:32:13.000 No, they don't.

01:32:13.000 They show that fucker all the time.

01:32:14.000 That's in the loop now.

01:32:16.000 You know the loop, the knockout loop that plays to Baba O'Reilly, the Who song?

01:32:19.000 They put Ryan on the Baba O... Oh, shit.

01:32:22.000 You have to.

01:32:23.000 Does Dana White know this?

01:32:24.000 Of course he does.

01:32:25.000 He's a part of it.

01:32:26.000 You fucked up.

01:32:27.000 No!

01:32:28.000 You fucked up.

01:32:29.000 Brought it to light.

01:32:30.000 Dana's gonna listen to this and that shit's gonna be marked out now. 1.00

01:32:33.000 No, no, no, no.

01:32:33.000 Listen, Holly Holm is a fucking legit champion.

01:32:38.000 He doesn't play favorites that much.

01:32:40.000 He might have a love for Ronda like as a person, but the bottom line is- Business is business.

01:32:44.000 Business is business.

01:32:45.000 And Holly is the fucking champion, man. 1.00

01:32:47.000 And with a spectacular result.

01:32:49.000 You couldn't remove that spectacular, because that was the most spectacular result in the history of women's MMA and the UFC. 100%. 1.00

01:32:56.000 Oh my god.

01:32:57.000 I want to see Holly on a private jet.

01:33:00.000 What we're seeing, now Holly's having her first fight. 0.96

01:33:03.000 It stirs trouble.

01:33:04.000 What did this motherfucker say before the podcast started?

01:33:07.000 Goddammit!

01:33:08.000 No, you got started!

01:33:09.000 Goddammit!

01:33:10.000 You just dragged me again!

01:33:12.000 We're talking about the sport!

01:33:14.000 He got sucked in!

01:33:15.000 Brian sucked me in!

01:33:16.000 Brian sucked me in!

01:33:17.000 I sucked you in! 0.93

01:33:18.000 Fuck you, Brian!

01:33:20.000 I can't handle this on my local diet!

01:33:24.000 He's about to go into ketosis.

01:33:26.000 He's going into emotional ketosis.

01:33:28.000 I think it's really easy, Misha and Holly.

01:33:31.000 I think if Misha can't take Holly down, if Misha can't take Holly down, Holly's going to win. 0.92

01:33:37.000 She's either going to decision her or she's going to mock her. 1.00

01:33:39.000 Misha ain't going to take Holly down.

01:33:39.000 But if she can take her down, if she can take her down...

01:33:42.000 She's not going to take Holly down.

01:33:43.000 I don't think Holly's jiu-jitsu is anywhere near Misha's. 0.66

01:33:47.000 Misha can grapple. 0.56

01:33:48.000 Holly is stronger, more athletic. 0.71

01:33:49.000 Misha can grapple. 0.56

01:33:51.000 And she's going to light her up.

01:33:52.000 Hey, Misha went three rounds.

01:33:53.000 Hold on.

01:33:55.000 Hit the brakes.

01:33:56.000 Let's not say she's going to do this because we really don't know.

01:33:59.000 I really have a problem when people do that.

01:34:01.000 I said two things.

01:34:02.000 He said she's going to light her up.

01:34:05.000 He said she's not going to be able to take her down and she's going to light her up.

01:34:08.000 I don't really think we should say that.

01:34:09.000 You don't think that's a fair assessment, Joe?

01:34:11.000 I think it's disrespectful.

01:34:12.000 Oh, I disagree.

01:34:13.000 This is what I think.

01:34:13.000 I think, honestly, I think Misha Tate is a better grappler.

01:34:16.000 I think Misha Tate dominated Sarah McMahon on the ground and flipped her over on her back and held her down, which is a giant accomplishment.

01:34:22.000 Yes.

01:34:22.000 Out-grappled her, out-grounded her out, and showed some badass striking against Jessica.

01:34:26.000 If I may strike.

01:34:26.000 I dropped her with a punch.

01:34:28.000 Ken Strike.

01:34:28.000 If I may.

01:34:28.000 And also is not going to be ridiculous.

01:34:30.000 She's not going to charge.

01:34:31.000 She's not going to be chin-up.

01:34:33.000 Your face first, tough it out.

01:34:35.000 Your IQ's very high.

01:34:36.000 All I'm saying is that I don't think it's disrespectful.

01:34:38.000 I would never be disrespectful.

01:34:40.000 However, no, no, no.

01:34:41.000 I don't think it's disrespectful.

01:34:42.000 Just 10 minutes ago.

01:34:44.000 Hey, man.

01:34:45.000 You were disrespectful, John Claude Van Damme, for sure.

01:34:47.000 No, the jeans haven't been worked out yet.

01:34:50.000 Those jeans are like fucking yoga pants.

01:34:52.000 No, no, no.

01:34:52.000 They need to be...

01:34:53.000 These are new.

01:34:54.000 The fibers are so tight.

01:34:55.000 These are new.

01:34:55.000 I put these on today.

01:34:56.000 I got them from the same pack.

01:34:57.000 You broke them in.

01:34:57.000 Look at how flexible you are, man.

01:34:58.000 I got them from the same pack.

01:34:59.000 I'm getting turned on.

01:35:01.000 Please don't.

01:35:01.000 Listen, listen.

01:35:02.000 They come from the same box.

01:35:03.000 These are new.

01:35:04.000 No, these are new.

01:35:05.000 Now they're broken.

01:35:07.000 They still have the tag on them.

01:35:11.000 I don't know about that.

01:35:11.000 Those look very broken.

01:35:12.000 I think you're lying to me.

01:35:13.000 I just got them.

01:35:13.000 No, you put them on that machine.

01:35:14.000 I just got them.

01:35:15.000 You put them on that jean machine.

01:35:17.000 I didn't buy them.

01:35:19.000 They sent them to me for free.

01:35:20.000 I don't think it's disrespectful to say the greatest striker ever in MMA. The greatest striker ever for women in MMA. Ioana.

01:35:30.000 Ioana and Jacek.

01:35:31.000 Some would say Cyborg.

01:35:32.000 I would say Holly.

01:35:33.000 Holly, Ioana.

01:35:36.000 Holly and Ioana.

01:35:37.000 Yeah, but to say that she would light anybody up for KO power. 0.98

01:35:42.000 But to say that Holly would light up anybody is not disrespectful.

01:35:44.000 It's a compliment to Holly.

01:35:45.000 It's not a diss to Misha.

01:35:46.000 No, you were saying she's going to light her up.

01:35:48.000 I believe that.

01:35:49.000 And that's not being disrespectful.

01:35:50.000 It might happen, or Misha might take her to the ground and be able to dominate her from there. 0.97

01:35:53.000 Good luck taking her down. 1.00

01:35:54.000 Her takedown defense is awesome. 1.00

01:35:55.000 She's never been taken down before.

01:35:57.000 She might not be able to get taken down.

01:35:59.000 She's never been taken down before.

01:36:00.000 But if she can, if Misha can take her down... 0.93

01:36:04.000 I think Misha's gonna, if she can take her down, she's gonna be all over her on the ground. 0.97

01:36:09.000 All I know is Misha's first team off cutie.

01:36:11.000 We don't know because it's really a mystery.

01:36:13.000 Like, we haven't seen Holly on the ground really.

01:36:14.000 Well, I do know one thing.

01:36:15.000 Except for those brief moments with Ronda where she got out of Ronda's armbar attempt and where she took Ronda down.

01:36:20.000 She took Ronda down. 0.99

01:36:21.000 That's all we know.

01:36:22.000 As far as, you might have some inside information from gyms, from people who trained with her.

01:36:26.000 I know this.

01:36:28.000 I think it's a tougher matchup stylistic-wise for Holly than Rhonda. 0.99

01:36:32.000 Well, what do you know?

01:36:33.000 Well, I know that she's not obsessed with jiu-jitsu.

01:36:38.000 She's one of those, and there's a lot of MMA fighters like that. 1.00

01:36:41.000 I could just rattle names off left and right.

01:36:44.000 There's a lot of guys that just want to stand and bang and work their wrestling and work to get up.

01:36:49.000 They don't want to fucking learn Jiu Jitsu.

01:36:51.000 There's so many that are still around.

01:36:53.000 They don't want to work on their back.

01:36:54.000 They just want to beat the shit out of people, take them fucking down and get on top, or not even fucking take them down, just stay and bang and work on their takedown defense.

01:37:03.000 If they get taken down, work on getting back up.

01:37:06.000 That's savagery.

01:37:07.000 That's barbarianism like that. 0.99

01:37:09.000 Are you saying that's Holly?

01:37:09.000 Robbie Lawler.

01:37:10.000 That's like Robbie Lawler.

01:37:11.000 Yeah, that's a lot of guys like that.

01:37:13.000 And I hear Holly is one of those guys.

01:37:14.000 She just wants to stand and bang. 0.99

01:37:16.000 Or one of those girls. 1.00

01:37:17.000 She's one of those fighters. 1.00

01:37:19.000 It's not obsessed.

01:37:21.000 And what those fighters all have in common, they're generally not known to have dangerous weapons off their back.

01:37:32.000 She gets the fuck up and kicks bitches in the face. 1.00

01:37:38.000 Especially in women's division. 0.99

01:37:41.000 Whose jiu-jitsu does she have to worry about in the women's division? 1.00

01:37:44.000 Holly is a champion for a long time.

01:37:46.000 She works on takedown defense a lot, and she works on getting back up a lot. 0.99

01:37:50.000 That's what I hear.

01:37:51.000 And kicking.

01:37:52.000 Misha can get through that.

01:37:53.000 Isn't there a lesson to be learned that MMA math doesn't really work, and that styles really match up weird sometimes?

01:37:59.000 And this might be a case.

01:38:00.000 The Misha Tate fight versus Holly Holm fight, I think, is a very tough fight.

01:38:04.000 Really tough fight.

01:38:05.000 She's sneaky. 1.00

01:38:06.000 She's sneaky and she's tough. 1.00

01:38:07.000 She does a lot of good.

01:38:09.000 She's got a lot of good skills. 0.77

01:38:10.000 She's got good skills standing.

01:38:11.000 She's a grinder, too. 1.00

01:38:12.000 She fights with their fucking hands up high. 1.00

01:38:14.000 She doesn't rush in and take crazy chances, and she can pop.

01:38:16.000 I mean, she dropped Jessica Ai with a really good right hand. 0.98

01:38:19.000 She's super game, too, man.

01:38:19.000 Super game.

01:38:21.000 She's a grinder. 1.00

01:38:22.000 She's great in the transitions.

01:38:23.000 She has really good transitions.

01:38:25.000 And like Holly, she's lost and been beaten up before.

01:38:28.000 She got beat up by Kat Zingano. 1.00

01:38:29.000 She's been to the mountains.

01:38:30.000 She came back stronger.

01:38:31.000 100%.

01:38:31.000 That coming back stronger is big.

01:38:33.000 Because she came back and beat Jessica Ai and Sarah McMahon. 1.00

01:38:36.000 I thought showing more determination, showing more grit.

01:38:39.000 Her back was against the wall after losing that fight to Kat, and she came back stronger.

01:38:44.000 From what I've seen with my eye, whether I'm right or not, it looks like Holly not only is a higher level striker, I think Holly, just from what I've seen, has much more snap and speed.

01:38:55.000 No question.

01:38:56.000 She's just so much faster. 1.00

01:38:57.000 She's a 19-time world boxing champion.

01:39:00.000 Misha's record is way better in MMA than Holly's.

01:39:04.000 Holly's been mainly a striker and not an MMA person, right?

01:39:07.000 Exactly.

01:39:08.000 Her boxing is unquestionably better.

01:39:09.000 Unquestionably.

01:39:10.000 She's arguably got the best striking credentials ever in the history of the women's division. 0.98

01:39:15.000 Sure, and kicking too.

01:39:15.000 19-time world boxing champion.

01:39:17.000 The only one who comes close is Ioana because she's six-time world Muay Thai champion when it comes to actual champions. 0.97

01:39:23.000 But Misha can grapple, she can clinch, she can avoid striking, and she doesn't necessarily have to kickbox with her. 0.99

01:39:29.000 So it becomes a very different proposition.

01:39:31.000 So if they went kickboxing to kickboxing, yes.

01:39:33.000 If they had an MMA kickboxing match, which is what essentially the Ronda fight was, except for two brief moments...

01:39:40.000 If they went kickboxing, yeah, Holly's gonna fuck her up. 1.00

01:39:42.000 But in MMA, Misha's fucking smart.

01:39:46.000 She's sneaky, she knows a lot of shit, and she's been there before. 0.98

01:39:49.000 And she's tough.

01:39:50.000 And she knows she's tough.

01:39:51.000 She knows she can grind it out in a grueling brawl. 1.00

01:39:55.000 And she has a real shot. 0.95

01:39:59.000 She's got a real shot. 1.00

01:40:00.000 See, I think Misha, she's never gonna beat Ronda, but Misha can beat Holly to be champion.

01:40:06.000 I just think stylistic-wise, it's a much better matchup.

01:40:08.000 We won't know until they lock up.

01:40:11.000 I'm just saying, from what I know in mixed martial arts, I think stylistic-wise, Misha has a way better chance of beating Holly than she does Ronda.

01:40:18.000 Also, there's a big difference between someone who is fighting off the back leg as a counter person, which Holly is just ridiculously good at. 1.00

01:40:27.000 Her counters, her timing was fucking spectacular.

01:40:29.000 But Ronda was presenting a predictable target. 0.99

01:40:32.000 There was a lot of running forward.

01:40:34.000 There was a lot of aggression.

01:40:35.000 That's all she knows.

01:40:35.000 So all Holly had to do was be patient, find the right footwork, and catch her coming in, because she knew she was coming in.

01:40:42.000 So it was an exercise in moving back and countering.

01:40:45.000 She knew exactly what she was preparing for.

01:40:47.000 Misha's not going to do that.

01:40:48.000 Misha comes forward though.

01:40:50.000 But if you remember, there was a few fighters, most notably Patrick Cote, that fought Anderson Silva, and he didn't lead.

01:40:57.000 And when he didn't lead, Anderson did not look nearly as good.

01:41:00.000 It was a horrible fight.

01:41:01.000 It was a horrible fight because Cote has an iron jaw, he's got knockout power, and he's smart.

01:41:07.000 So what does he do?

01:41:08.000 He knows that Anderson is a wizard at countering.

01:41:10.000 So he's not his predictable, usual, aggressive self.

01:41:14.000 I don't think those two girls are on the same level as that.

01:41:16.000 No, they're not on the same level.

01:41:17.000 Holly is.

01:41:18.000 Holly's on a very high level for women. 1.00

01:41:20.000 Yes, she is.

01:41:20.000 For women, no one's been on a higher level striking-wise.

01:41:23.000 I think Misha's will afford to get an underhook and try to grind her out of your cage. 1.00

01:41:26.000 She might not be able to.

01:41:27.000 This is what we're going to find out.

01:41:29.000 Holly's going to make her kick not so much. 1.00

01:41:31.000 I think Holly is so much stronger.

01:41:33.000 I was amazed.

01:41:34.000 She looked so much stronger than Ronda.

01:41:37.000 Ronda's strong as shit.

01:41:38.000 And it felt like Holly was a lot stronger.

01:41:40.000 This fight ain't going by the first round, by the way.

01:41:42.000 And she's going to be stronger than Misha. 0.89

01:41:43.000 This fight's out of the first round.

01:41:45.000 This one ends early.

01:41:46.000 Yeah, Faye Zhao.

01:41:47.000 Fajal's look like doo-doo lately. 1.00

01:41:49.000 Well, he's had some rough fights, man.

01:41:52.000 Patrick Cummings really beat him down last round.

01:41:55.000 That was in Brazil.

01:41:56.000 That was a crazy fight, man.

01:41:58.000 OC's a motherfucker. 0.94

01:41:59.000 He's in the first round.

01:42:00.000 He's a super athlete, man.

01:42:01.000 That powerful left kick.

01:42:03.000 Sick.

01:42:03.000 He's got a nasty left kick.

01:42:05.000 He's a dude that just keeps getting better, too.

01:42:07.000 If you can get him down, you can win the fight.

01:42:10.000 Didn't he try out for the NFL a bunch of times?

01:42:12.000 Nope.

01:42:13.000 I thought he did.

01:42:14.000 Nope.

01:42:14.000 He just played at University of Tennessee and then went straight to...

01:42:17.000 Really?

01:42:17.000 He didn't...

01:42:18.000 He's a serious athlete, man.

01:42:20.000 Yeah.

01:42:20.000 Maybe he went to Combine or something.

01:42:22.000 Not the NFL Combine, but he...

01:42:23.000 Really?

01:42:24.000 No, he didn't get tryouts with the NFL. When he knocked out Shogun with that step-away left hook... 0.80

01:42:28.000 Oof, that was nasty.

01:42:29.000 He let everybody know what's up.

01:42:31.000 There's a big message.

01:42:33.000 Oh, they're doing Shogun Rashaad again, right?

01:42:36.000 No, Shogun...

01:42:37.000 Is that what it is?

01:42:38.000 Yes, yes, yes.

01:42:39.000 Who's Liotto fighting?

01:42:40.000 Liotto's fighting so much Dan Henderson.

01:42:41.000 Thanks for nothing.

01:42:42.000 That's a weird fight.

01:42:43.000 Thanks for nothing on both of those.

01:42:45.000 How dare you.

01:42:46.000 Thanks for nothing.

01:42:47.000 You wouldn't watch that?

01:42:48.000 Nah.

01:42:49.000 Ten years ago I wouldn't.

01:42:50.000 Okay.

01:42:50.000 I will absolutely watch Liotto and Dan Henderson.

01:42:52.000 Oh, you're crunk for it?

01:42:53.000 You're like crunk for it?

01:42:54.000 I am always crunk for a Liotto fight.

01:42:57.000 Because Liotto, just a year and a half ago, knocked out Mark Munoz with that wicked left head kick.

01:43:02.000 Liotto is one of my favorite people on the planet.

01:43:04.000 I'm just saying, Dan Henderson's old.

01:43:06.000 Can we give him something else?

01:43:07.000 Well, Dan Henderson has a bunch of fights left in his contract, and I think he still thinks that he can do it.

01:43:12.000 And you've got to let a guy like that...

01:43:14.000 He deserves the right.

01:43:15.000 Yeah.

01:43:17.000 Two unsuccessful attempts at professional football.

01:43:19.000 So there it goes.

01:43:20.000 You were right, Brian.

01:43:21.000 It doesn't say NFL, though, does it?

01:43:22.000 Well, I would imagine this.

01:43:23.000 Oh, professional football.

01:43:24.000 Oh, no.

01:43:24.000 No, no, no.

01:43:25.000 It's not Italian soccer.

01:43:27.000 You could be CFL, AFL. Oh, really?

01:43:29.000 Oh, yeah.

01:43:30.000 There's a ton.

01:43:31.000 Brendan Shaw, former NFL player with fucking logic.

01:43:34.000 Maybe we should listen.

01:43:35.000 I know.

01:43:36.000 Oh, shit.

01:43:36.000 He played football for 20 years, but it's whatever.

01:43:39.000 Who got hurt?

01:43:40.000 Ovens.

01:43:41.000 Really?

01:43:41.000 He kicked him and he fucked his leg up.

01:43:43.000 He's limping.

01:43:44.000 Oh, no.

01:43:44.000 Really?

01:43:44.000 He kicked him and fucked up.

01:43:45.000 Where did he kick him?

01:43:46.000 I need to see it again.

01:43:47.000 Oh, he's fucked up.

01:43:49.000 That leg's fucked up.

01:43:50.000 Look at his leg.

01:43:51.000 Oh, yeah, he's limping.

01:43:53.000 He might have hurt his knee or something.

01:43:54.000 OSB's thing, man, is his training camp, his team.

01:43:56.000 I have no idea who he's training.

01:43:58.000 Yeah, his left leg is real wobbly, man.

01:44:00.000 He changed.

01:44:02.000 He went southpaw.

01:44:03.000 Did you see what happened, Eddie?

01:44:04.000 Well, this is orthodox.

01:44:06.000 Did you see what happened, Eddie?

01:44:07.000 He kicked a homeboy and hurt his leg kicking him.

01:44:10.000 Oh, like shin to shin?

01:44:12.000 Something happened like that.

01:44:13.000 He's back to- Ooh!

01:44:14.000 He's took it again!

01:44:15.000 He's not moving so good on him.

01:44:16.000 Fajal saw that.

01:44:17.000 Well, it's the wrong leg.

01:44:18.000 He's not moving at all.

01:44:18.000 Fajal just attacked the right leg.

01:44:20.000 You talking about the left leg?

01:44:21.000 No, I think I'm talking about the right leg.

01:44:22.000 Is his right leg hurt?

01:44:23.000 He started out in Southpaw, now he switched because his leg's fucked up. 0.91

01:44:27.000 So he's kicking with the fucked up leg as his supporting leg?

01:44:30.000 The leg- His right leg is bunched up.

01:44:32.000 Oh, he's super fucked up.

01:44:33.000 His right leg is bunched.

01:44:34.000 Oh, that's weird.

01:44:35.000 Yeah, he got his knee messed up.

01:44:37.000 Isn't it weird just to try to see a guy try to hide that shit?

01:44:40.000 Yeah.

01:44:40.000 You know who was the best I've ever seen in it?

01:44:42.000 Uriah Hall.

01:44:44.000 Uriah Hall had his foot fucked up so bad that his toe was hanging off.

01:44:49.000 And he came back to his corner and we got a camera on it so we could get a look at it.

01:44:54.000 His foot was completely fucked up.

01:44:56.000 Like his toe, the bone was sticking out of his toe.

01:44:59.000 Do you remember John Jones?

01:45:01.000 That was after the fight.

01:45:02.000 That was after it was over.

01:45:03.000 Uriah, what I'm saying is he went back to his corner, like barely could walk.

01:45:07.000 And then when the round started, that motherfucker completely ignored it. 0.99

01:45:11.000 He was throwing kicks with it.

01:45:13.000 His fucking toe was hanging off and he's throwing wheel kicks with it.

01:45:16.000 Yeah, there's his toe.

01:45:17.000 You see how fucked up it is?

01:45:18.000 It was broken off to the right, and the bone was coming out.

01:45:22.000 I could see the bone when I was there.

01:45:25.000 Uriah Hall is a bad motherfucker.

01:45:27.000 He is a bad motherfucker.

01:45:28.000 What's going on?

01:45:29.000 He hasn't fought in a while, huh?

01:45:30.000 Well, he lost to Gegard, remember?

01:45:33.000 No, he beat Gegard.

01:45:33.000 He beat Gegard, then he lost to...

01:45:35.000 Whittaker?

01:45:36.000 I'm sorry.

01:45:36.000 Who did he lost to?

01:45:37.000 He lost to Whittaker, Robert Whittaker.

01:45:38.000 Michelle's being very, very careful here, huh?

01:45:41.000 The fight with Gegard was a spectacular victory for him.

01:45:43.000 What am I talking about?

01:45:43.000 Amazing.

01:45:44.000 And Gegard's still ranked higher than him.

01:45:45.000 That's crazy.

01:45:46.000 That doesn't make any sense to me.

01:45:47.000 Gegard's fighting Thales Leides, right?

01:45:49.000 Yeah.

01:45:50.000 Talos Laitis in...

01:45:51.000 I haven't seen Talos Laitis in a while.

01:45:52.000 Talos Laitis is another one who fought very smart against Anderson Silva.

01:45:55.000 He's another one that went five rounds with Anderson Silva.

01:45:57.000 Oh, oh, oh!

01:45:57.000 Look at this!

01:45:58.000 Oh, they're swinging, son.

01:46:00.000 Oh, my goodness.

01:46:00.000 Oh, you had him!

01:46:02.000 Wow.

01:46:02.000 Fajau, you had him!

01:46:03.000 Look at that.

01:46:05.000 Oh, shit!

01:46:06.000 It looks like he can throw some elbows from the guard.

01:46:08.000 And Ovin St. Pooh's on top right now with Fajar and his guard.

01:46:11.000 It looks like he's got good left elbows in the guard.

01:46:14.000 One thing about a guy like Fajar, though, is that Fajar's a really good striker.

01:46:18.000 And really good strikers are hard to ground and pound.

01:46:20.000 Because they don't panic, they don't lock up, they get used to getting hit, they know how to roll with things, and they know what's coming.

01:46:27.000 You know, like, their IQ as far as, like, striking, like, where the right hand's coming, where the left hand's coming, what position you're in to put, like, real torque behind something.

01:46:35.000 You rarely catch them clean.

01:46:36.000 Like, look how, see how clever he's moving when he's off his back?

01:46:40.000 Fajal was the world champ.

01:46:41.000 Yeah, didn't Fajal fight Anderson back in the day?

01:46:43.000 No, no, no.

01:46:44.000 No, he fought King Mo and knocked him out in Strikeforce to win the title.

01:46:47.000 He's a bad motherfucker.

01:46:48.000 Yeah.

01:46:50.000 He's had a tough stint in the UFC. He's had some ups and downs.

01:46:53.000 He might have gotten the UFC a little later in his career.

01:46:56.000 It would be a little late for him at his best effort.

01:47:00.000 Ouch, his knees.

01:47:01.000 Should they be massaging his knee right now?

01:47:04.000 Do something.

01:47:06.000 No, I don't know what's wrong with it.

01:47:08.000 I mean...

01:47:09.000 It's ashy.

01:47:10.000 Could it have been a charley horse?

01:47:11.000 We know that.

01:47:12.000 It's ashy as fuck.

01:47:14.000 That's for sure.

01:47:15.000 I've never seen him put...

01:47:16.000 He might have hurt his foot.

01:47:17.000 I feel like that's a bad idea to put ice before you go out there.

01:47:20.000 Yeah, it might be.

01:47:21.000 Bring the inflammation down.

01:47:22.000 Boom! 0.99

01:47:22.000 That right there. 0.99

01:47:23.000 Oh, that's what did it!

01:47:24.000 Oh, he might have broke his foot when he threw that leg kick.

01:47:27.000 Oh, it was his kick.

01:47:29.000 Yeah.

01:47:30.000 He might have blew his knee out or blew his foot out or something.

01:47:32.000 Yeah, he fucked his knee up, I think.

01:47:33.000 Yeah.

01:47:33.000 Damn.

01:47:35.000 That's too bad.

01:47:35.000 Yeah, yeah, he's having a hard time on it.

01:47:37.000 See how it's kind of wobbly?

01:47:38.000 Yeah, he's got to get that win.

01:47:40.000 But it's just interesting, you know, like little variations in someone's gait.

01:47:44.000 You can see it.

01:47:47.000 Oh, look at him.

01:47:48.000 This is why I think I'm so excited about what's going on right now with MMA, with guys working on this crazy footwork.

01:47:54.000 Like the Dwayne Ludwig...

01:47:56.000 Like camp with the T.J. Dillashaw-style footwork, Dominic Cruz's footwork, Conor McGregor's footwork.

01:48:02.000 The whole motion coach shit, movement coaches.

01:48:04.000 Tate Fletcher texted me the other day and goes, Hey man, you have any movement coaches in LA? I text him back, Fuck you.

01:48:15.000 I don't deal with that bullshit.

01:48:17.000 Whoever you're looking for, tell them to go to the jail.

01:48:19.000 Fuck you.

01:48:20.000 He started laughing.

01:48:21.000 That is so funny.

01:48:23.000 Fuck you.

01:48:23.000 If you're an MMA fan, you understand why that's so funny because I'm guilty of it as much as anybody, but I can't shut the fuck up about movement coaches.

01:48:30.000 God, your balls deep in it.

01:48:31.000 Balls deep.

01:48:32.000 I had the movement guy on.

01:48:33.000 Hey, bro.

01:48:35.000 How about Carlos Cognizt's movement coach?

01:48:37.000 He was great.

01:48:38.000 Oh, what's your background?

01:48:40.000 As a kid, I climbed on trees and played with rocks.

01:48:42.000 That's like me going, oh, I'm Arctic.

01:48:44.000 Oh, yeah?

01:48:45.000 What's your degree?

01:48:45.000 I played with Legos as kids.

01:48:47.000 Yeah, it would have been nice if he had a more detailed background.

01:48:50.000 Zero background.

01:48:51.000 Zero.

01:48:52.000 Zero.

01:48:53.000 But I think he knows a lot.

01:48:54.000 Nah, but not really.

01:48:56.000 Look it out.

01:48:57.000 Nah.

01:48:58.000 Let's be real about it.

01:48:59.000 I think he knows a lot about movement, proprioception, some of the things he was talking about, about balance and coordination.

01:49:06.000 It didn't look like in Carlos' fight.

01:49:08.000 Listen, man, I think you won that fight anyways, but I don't think you moved too well.

01:49:12.000 I think he's only been working with him for a short amount of time, and you know as much as I do that new things you're going to incorporate into high-level cage fighting.

01:49:19.000 It takes a long time to really apply them.

01:49:21.000 Yeah, let's not climb on logs.

01:49:22.000 Maybe go to the gym and grapple or something, huh?

01:49:25.000 That guy had a ponytail on.

01:49:27.000 I was like, get the fuck out of here.

01:49:29.000 Someone on the underground said this.

01:49:31.000 I'm stealing their line.

01:49:32.000 They all look like Jesus. 0.78

01:49:33.000 They all have ponytails.

01:49:34.000 Whoever it is that did that, tweet me so I can give them credit.

01:49:37.000 They all have ponytails.

01:49:38.000 You go, what's your background?

01:49:40.000 Degrees?

01:49:40.000 He went, nah, man.

01:49:41.000 I just climbed on rocks as a kid and climbed some trees.

01:49:44.000 As soon as I heard that one.

01:49:46.000 As soon as I heard that one.

01:49:47.000 I'm going to turn this shit off.

01:49:48.000 I'm going to turn this off.

01:49:49.000 I was confused still, even at the end, how they sort of designed their protocol.

01:49:55.000 I mean, how he designs what they're going to do that day.

01:49:59.000 Get the fuck out of my face, son!

01:50:01.000 It was such bullshit.

01:50:03.000 Connor's a freak.

01:50:04.000 Move all you want.

01:50:05.000 Move all you want.

01:50:06.000 For everyone else, stay the fuck in the gym and work on your sport.

01:50:09.000 But how can you say this if you haven't done it?

01:50:11.000 I honestly believe, unless you've done it, you wouldn't know.

01:50:15.000 Like, okay, here's a perfect example.

01:50:17.000 You're doing yoga now.

01:50:18.000 Would you not have thought that that shit was for housewives before you ever did it? 1.00

01:50:23.000 Nah, son, I like that shit.

01:50:24.000 I like the relax movement.

01:50:25.000 I don't go to yoga to be like, listen, I'm going to be Andre Erlowski.

01:50:29.000 Let me go do some hot yoga.

01:50:30.000 Listen, I'm not talking about why you as an experienced yoga person goes to yoga.

01:50:33.000 I'm talking about your prejudice against yoga before you ever did yoga.

01:50:36.000 What was it?

01:50:37.000 I didn't have any.

01:50:38.000 I did.

01:50:38.000 I'm open-minded.

01:50:39.000 Bullshit.

01:50:40.000 I swear.

01:50:40.000 How dare you.

01:50:41.000 I came in there with a fucking green juice.

01:50:43.000 Look at the chakras. 1.00

01:50:43.000 The chakras are so aligned. 1.00

01:50:46.000 Show us your root chakra.

01:50:47.000 You never thought...

01:50:48.000 You didn't think that...

01:50:55.000 You didn't think that it was way easier than it turned out to be?

01:50:59.000 Way easier or way harder?

01:51:00.000 But is it movement like yoga?

01:51:02.000 Your perception of it was that it was way easier than it actually was.

01:51:05.000 It was harder, but in the middle of training camp, I'm like, thank God for Mrs. Downs in this yoga, otherwise I wouldn't move as good in this yoga.

01:51:13.000 But there's a lot of movement in training, right?

01:51:15.000 I mean, jabbing, moving.

01:51:18.000 You're chock full of movement in training camp.

01:51:21.000 Don't they have a lot of yoga, movements and movement?

01:51:23.000 Yes.

01:51:24.000 Yeah, there's definitely a lot of movement in yoga.

01:51:26.000 There's a lot of balance in yoga.

01:51:27.000 I need to see a degree.

01:51:28.000 I need to see some sort of scientific backing.

01:51:30.000 Hold on a second there, because there's people that don't get degrees.

01:51:33.000 How about the Gymnastica Natural that Hicks and Gracie attributes to a lot of its flexibility in movement?

01:51:39.000 Before these movement coaches, this is what people need to understand.

01:51:43.000 Back in the fucking early 90s, Hickson was like a guy, he was like Candyman.

01:51:49.000 He didn't want to say his name three times.

01:51:50.000 He'd show up on your fucking doorstep and strangle you.

01:51:53.000 It's true.

01:51:54.000 Dude, he was the motherfucker of motherfuckers.

01:51:56.000 Slow his heartbeat down, all that stuff.

01:51:58.000 He was a yogi.

01:51:59.000 He's a legit yogi.

01:52:00.000 He was a movement guy.

01:52:02.000 Gymnostic natural is all movement. 0.92

01:52:03.000 Exactly.

01:52:03.000 It was both.

01:52:04.000 He applied fire breath.

01:52:10.000 That's why he's a legend.

01:52:11.000 But you can also add in that he did 40 years of jujitsu.

01:52:16.000 That's why he stood out from all the Gracies. 1.00

01:52:19.000 He stood out.

01:52:20.000 Hicks and Gracie.

01:52:21.000 All of them will tell you.

01:52:22.000 Because he did the movement.

01:52:22.000 All of them.

01:52:23.000 Well, he stood out.

01:52:24.000 That's one of the factors.

01:52:25.000 That's the science here.

01:52:27.000 A detective would say, maybe it had something to do with that.

01:52:31.000 Yeah, but hear what you're saying here, too.

01:52:33.000 Yes.

01:52:34.000 They're not mutually exclusive.

01:52:35.000 Have an open mind, Brendan.

01:52:36.000 They're not mutually exclusive.

01:52:37.000 Hickson, the reason why he was the greatest ever was because he was the perfect storm.

01:52:41.000 He was the guy who was super smart, he was super tough, he had a warrior mentality, and he was intelligent enough to apply a bunch of really unconventional training modalities, like some serious yoga.

01:52:53.000 That fucking video of him on the bars in Santa Monica before he fought in Japan Valley Tudo, he's doing balance beam shit, going to a full split, standing there on this fucking bar on the beach.

01:53:04.000 He's doing all these ring works.

01:53:06.000 I'm not saying the movement doesn't work.

01:53:08.000 It was both.

01:53:09.000 I agree.

01:53:11.000 Did you say it doesn't help?

01:53:12.000 Like if a guy said he's been doing movement, a guy comes into your gym, a guy comes into your gym and he's been doing movement.

01:53:17.000 I'm saying if I'm a young MMA fighter in the UFC, on my list of priorities to become a UFC champion, hiring a movement coach who his background is climbing on rocks and climbing trees is not the guy I'm going to fucking hire.

01:53:28.000 You are correct.

01:53:29.000 You are correct.

01:53:30.000 Okay, but what about the Edo Portal guy?

01:53:32.000 Yeah, now he's a god.

01:53:34.000 Don't diss him because I'll come at you.

01:53:36.000 I will fuck you up.

01:53:36.000 He's a god again.

01:53:37.000 If you say anything, I will sidekick the fuck out of you with his tutelage.

01:53:40.000 I don't know what Erlon Erwan LaCour can do, but I know he has the respect of Carlos Condit, so he's got my respect.

01:53:44.000 I enjoy talking to him.

01:53:45.000 I enjoy talking to him and I think he knows a lot.

01:53:47.000 So I disagree with you on that.

01:53:49.000 But I don't know if he can do what that Ido Portal guy can do.

01:53:53.000 But we're talking about mindset.

01:53:54.000 That guy moves like an anime.

01:53:57.000 I agree, it's insane.

01:53:58.000 He moves like he's not real.

01:53:59.000 Joe, all I'm saying is if you're gonna dedicate your time to something, I don't know if that's the way to go.

01:54:04.000 Here's why I'm not sure you're right.

01:54:06.000 Guys like Rich Martinez, we brought this up before.

01:54:09.000 He was a fantastic breakdancer.

01:54:12.000 And the ability to manipulate his body, standing on one hand, doing the fucking full lotus, all the crazy shit that he could do, directly translated to him almost immediately being a bad motherfucker in jiu-jitsu.

01:54:24.000 Directly.

01:54:26.000 Ridiculously, and not just athletic, but the dexterity of his movements.

01:54:31.000 One language informs the other.

01:54:32.000 No, you're wrong, man.

01:54:34.000 You're wrong.

01:54:35.000 Breakdancing's This is why I'm saying you're wrong.

01:54:40.000 It's all good if it works and helps you.

01:54:43.000 Sign up for salsa classes.

01:54:45.000 It's all movement.

01:54:46.000 It's all footwork.

01:54:47.000 Don't you remember what football players were taking ballet?

01:54:49.000 Yes.

01:54:49.000 I did it.

01:54:50.000 Did you?

01:54:50.000 Yes.

01:54:51.000 Then why are you talking shit on salsa?

01:54:53.000 But why did you take ballet?

01:54:55.000 Something to do.

01:54:56.000 Why else did you take ballet?

01:54:58.000 You did ballet?

01:55:01.000 And to get this ham hock and these tights and put C-Rotel? 0.54

01:55:05.000 Check this out, ladies. 1.00

01:55:06.000 Did you have to wear yoga pants and shit?

01:55:09.000 Yeah, you had to wear the full dance belt.

01:55:12.000 You gotta wear a dance belt.

01:55:14.000 I did ballet for two years.

01:55:15.000 How do you have time to do all these things?

01:55:17.000 Theater school.

01:55:18.000 Why are you not 90?

01:55:19.000 Theater school, sorry.

01:55:20.000 All this shit you've done for five years, I lived in the woods, studying mushrooms in Bali.

01:55:24.000 Why was it?

01:55:24.000 Theater school!

01:55:24.000 Acting school!

01:55:26.000 In acting school, you have to take ballet.

01:55:30.000 Acting school, you must take ballet.

01:55:32.000 And you have to perform and put on performances.

01:55:34.000 Someone's trying to fuck you, okay?

01:55:34.000 That's like going to painting school and learning how to play video games.

01:55:39.000 They're not related.

01:55:40.000 Let me tell you something right now, and I'm being dead serious.

01:55:41.000 I was a beautiful dancer.

01:55:43.000 I'm a beautiful ballet dancer.

01:55:44.000 I bet you were.

01:55:44.000 Dude, we did ballet.

01:55:45.000 Well, you used to do that video.

01:55:46.000 That video you did was just hilarious.

01:55:49.000 Not Unconventional Dancer.

01:55:51.000 What was the name of it?

01:55:52.000 What the fuck was that video that you did?

01:55:54.000 Where I was a gimp?

01:55:55.000 No, you had this crazy dance video that you made.

01:55:58.000 I can't remember.

01:55:58.000 God damn it.

01:55:59.000 It was hilarious.

01:56:00.000 You said, ah, I just did this thing.

01:56:01.000 Take a look at it.

01:56:02.000 I remember I took it home.

01:56:03.000 It was back when people actually had DVDs.

01:56:05.000 Yes.

01:56:05.000 And it was Brian Dancer.

01:56:06.000 What the fuck?

01:56:07.000 It wasn't Unconventional Dancer.

01:56:08.000 No, I can't remember what it was called.

01:56:09.000 It's not the word unconventional.

01:56:11.000 Like, you know, fuck.

01:56:13.000 Unorthodox dancer?

01:56:13.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:56:15.000 Inappropriate dancer? 0.82

01:56:15.000 Yes, I think it was inappropriate dancer. 0.82

01:56:17.000 It was a sketch that he did.

01:56:19.000 It was ridiculous.

01:56:20.000 It was ridiculous.

01:56:21.000 It was a guy just like, it's okay to dance on a dance floor.

01:56:24.000 Agreed, right?

01:56:24.000 We all agree.

01:56:25.000 As long as you step into this arena and you're on the hardwood, we agree you're allowed to get ridiculous.

01:56:30.000 But you can't do that shit when you're waiting in line to rent a car.

01:56:33.000 And Bryant's character.

01:56:35.000 Was that what it was?

01:56:36.000 I think so.

01:56:36.000 I can't remember.

01:56:37.000 I just remember there was some inappropriate dancing.

01:56:39.000 Yeah, when I slapped the gimbal, I slapped that bob thing, and I would jump out.

01:56:43.000 That sounds hilarious.

01:56:44.000 I did all kinds of weird stuff like that.

01:56:45.000 Dude, we were doing ballet, and then about two days into it, someone's like, uh, we should probably go catch some footballs.

01:56:51.000 Yeah, no shit.

01:56:53.000 No shit.

01:56:54.000 And that's where all this movement and dancing stuff.

01:56:57.000 But one language informs the other.

01:56:59.000 But don't you think lunges are, essentially, in a lot of ways, especially dumbbell lunges, are very much a movement exercise?

01:57:05.000 Because it's all about balance and rigidity and keeping your core straight.

01:57:08.000 There's something about double dumbbell lunges, things along those lines.

01:57:12.000 They help you.

01:57:14.000 Fizio balls?

01:57:15.000 Fizio balls?

01:57:16.000 No, heavy stuff.

01:57:17.000 Yeah.

01:57:18.000 If you're going to apply an explosive movement to a martial art, there's no doubt about lifting weights helps, right?

01:57:24.000 No doubt about it.

01:57:25.000 No doubt about it.

01:57:26.000 If there was no weight restrictions, you could do whatever you wanted and lift as much weight as you wanted.

01:57:31.000 There's a big difference between 170 and 200. There's just a big difference.

01:57:35.000 You get way stronger.

01:57:36.000 If you get way more explosive, it's beneficial in an applied situation, right?

01:57:42.000 Agreed.

01:57:43.000 That's movement.

01:57:44.000 Yeah.

01:57:44.000 It's not much different.

01:57:46.000 It's like you're talking about movement with weights or movement with Muay Thai.

01:57:50.000 There's a lot of people that say training in Muay Thai has helped their jiu-jitsu.

01:57:53.000 I believe it.

01:57:54.000 It makes sense.

01:57:55.000 I get all this, man.

01:57:56.000 The explosions you have to do in Muay Thai, that's movement too.

01:58:00.000 I get all this.

01:58:00.000 I would also say, I would avoid Cummings with gymnastics.

01:58:02.000 I got a movement for you.

01:58:03.000 I did gymnastics too.

01:58:05.000 What leads one person, like with Hickson, what leads him into the other disciplines is that mindset.

01:58:12.000 That comprehensive mindset.

01:58:14.000 That open mindset.

01:58:14.000 To constantly get better.

01:58:16.000 His foundation is so fucking good.

01:58:18.000 Insane.

01:58:19.000 But also, he was a student of the great Japanese samurai.

01:58:22.000 Yes.

01:58:23.000 Correct.

01:58:23.000 Their philosophy.

01:58:24.000 So I'm sure he read the Book of Five Rings.

01:58:26.000 And one of the things about the Book of Five Rings that it emphasized was like taking in all sorts of different, be soft, like taking calligraphy, do painting, stay flexible.

01:58:36.000 And the reason for that, if you look at any great innovator, they started with one discipline, they started with one discipline, and then when they studied other disciplines, they were able to appropriate those disciplines and come up with a new style.

01:58:48.000 You don't revolutionize a new style by studying that style.

01:58:52.000 You branch out.

01:58:53.000 A young Hickson might beat Alan Joban.

01:58:56.000 A young, handsome as shit.

01:58:59.000 He's from the jungle, essentially.

01:59:02.000 He's from South America.

01:59:04.000 A 19-year-old Hickson?

01:59:05.000 And he would twist the pussy? 1.00

01:59:09.000 He would have a real problem with that.

01:59:11.000 Can you imagine the pussy Hickson was getting? 0.54

01:59:14.000 Please bring him up.

01:59:15.000 I'd like to look at him.

01:59:17.000 Supermodels left in line.

01:59:19.000 Again, let's not bring up a specific instance.

01:59:21.000 I think your jujitsu helps your music, and I think your music helps your jujitsu.

01:59:27.000 And I think as your jujitsu's gotten better, your music's gotten better, and as your music's gotten better, your jujitsu's gotten better.

01:59:31.000 I really do.

01:59:33.000 I think they're all...

01:59:34.000 How dare you?

01:59:35.000 If you hired a movie coach, you'd be Red Hot Chili Peppers. 0.50

01:59:37.000 You're right, though.

01:59:38.000 When you get great at things, especially you, specifically, you're a guy who...

01:59:42.000 One of the best things about you creating 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu, ever since I've known you, if you have an idea in your mind, there's a point you have to get to.

01:59:51.000 Like, okay, there's a spot over there you gotta get to.

01:59:53.000 You have this crazy tunnel vision where you'll figure out unconventional paths to get to a point.

01:59:58.000 Like, you can block out a lot of, like, external shit that a lot of other people don't, you know, they can't block out.

02:00:05.000 They can't, like, tune in to the finish line the way you can.

02:00:08.000 It's really interesting to see, because I think that applies to your music as well.

02:00:12.000 I think it applies to everything you do.

02:00:14.000 And I think it comes, for a lot of us, I think it comes from, like, some fucked up place where you didn't get enough when you were a child.

02:00:21.000 Enough attention or what?

02:00:22.000 Anything.

02:00:22.000 Love, attention, praise, friendship, camaraderie.

02:00:27.000 Also what's really important is like I said this to him the other day.

02:00:30.000 He says don't spar.

02:00:32.000 You know why I spar?

02:00:33.000 Because it terrifies me.

02:00:34.000 I'm not good at sparring.

02:00:35.000 How did you turn this into you when I was talking about it?

02:00:37.000 I'm trying to explain to him.

02:00:38.000 No, no, what I'm saying is that...

02:00:39.000 How dare you?

02:00:39.000 No, listen, listen, listen.

02:00:40.000 You son of a bitch.

02:00:40.000 No, no, this is the point I'm making.

02:00:41.000 Listen, when you do something that you're afraid of or that makes you uncomfortable, I end up writing.

02:00:47.000 I think when you do another discipline that maybe you're not even good at that scares you, it'll open up channels in your original discipline.

02:00:56.000 It'll jumble your brain so you come at things in a different way.

02:00:59.000 If you stay comfortable in stuff...

02:01:03.000 You're most likely, if you're in a creative field, it's harder to branch out and become more creative.

02:01:08.000 If you do things you're not that good at, that maybe you're scared of, that cause you to stretch in other areas, and this is the argument for movement coaches, when you do things you're not that good at to step out of your comfort zone, you'll probably get better at your original discipline.

02:01:23.000 You better be good at everything else before you hire a movement coach.

02:01:25.000 With that being said, being open-minded, I think the four of us should get a timeshare.

02:01:29.000 Fuckin' A! Where? 0.94

02:01:31.000 Just four dudes.

02:01:32.000 I don't know.

02:01:32.000 Let's do it.

02:01:33.000 How much fun would we have?

02:01:35.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:01:36.000 Jesus Christ.

02:01:36.000 Be open minded.

02:01:37.000 We have to do a podcast every day.

02:01:39.000 Listen, after all of our chicks get sick of our bullshit, let's just get a fat house in the hills and do this. 1.00

02:01:43.000 And have a movement coach every day.

02:01:45.000 We just have a big house with four branches where we don't have to necessarily hear each other.

02:01:49.000 We just meet in the kitchen.

02:01:50.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:01:52.000 And just live like men. 0.94

02:01:54.000 Don't live like these bitches that we've become trapped in this world. 1.00

02:01:57.000 This is when we get to be free.

02:01:59.000 We can be free like this all the time.

02:02:01.000 Yeah.

02:02:01.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:02:02.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:02:04.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:02:07.000 Ovin, say pew.

02:02:08.000 Pew.

02:02:09.000 Pew.

02:02:09.000 Fuck yeah, Ovin's in the house.

02:02:11.000 Good dude.

02:02:12.000 With a broke foot, whips him up.

02:02:14.000 I wonder what the actual injury was.

02:02:16.000 OSP, baby.

02:02:17.000 Probably just a sprain.

02:02:18.000 He looks like he's walking okay.

02:02:19.000 Yeah, he looks like he's walking okay.

02:02:20.000 He's a tough one.

02:02:20.000 Anderson Silva.

02:02:21.000 Anderson Silva.

02:02:22.000 What do you think of that fight?

02:02:23.000 I forgot to say Anderson.

02:02:24.000 It's a very good fight at this time in both their careers.

02:02:27.000 It becomes interesting.

02:02:28.000 Whereas Anderson, when he was dominating, right after he smashed Chael Sonnen in the second fight, you would think that's a tough fight for Bisping.

02:02:37.000 Anderson's just in the matrix.

02:02:38.000 Super tough fight.

02:02:40.000 Anderson comes off of...

02:02:41.000 Psychologically, there's two brutal losses in a row.

02:02:46.000 One, a loss for sure.

02:02:47.000 One, a catastrophic injury.

02:02:49.000 Then he just gets by Nick Diaz, but he gets humiliated.

02:02:54.000 Nick Diaz lies on his back and puts his hands on his head and mocks him.

02:02:58.000 He's talking to him.

02:02:59.000 He's calling him a bitch.

02:03:00.000 Dude, Nick Diaz was super respectful right up until the moment they got in that cage, and then he was Nick Diaz.

02:03:07.000 It was back on.

02:03:09.000 It's like that old fable about the scorpion and the frog.

02:03:12.000 The frog wants to get across the pond, and the scorpion says, Or the scorpion wants to get across the pond and the frog is in the water and the scorpion says, let me ride on your back.

02:03:22.000 And the frog says, I won't do that.

02:03:24.000 If I do that, you'll sting me.

02:03:26.000 He goes, well, if I did that, we would both die.

02:03:28.000 I'm not stupid.

02:03:29.000 So the scorpion rides on the frog's back and halfway across the water, he stings him.

02:03:33.000 And the frog's like, what the fuck?

02:03:35.000 And the scorpion's like, sorry, it's in my nature.

02:03:38.000 Yeah.

02:03:38.000 Damn, what kind of childhood stories did you have?

02:03:40.000 I've never heard this one.

02:03:41.000 That's a famous story.

02:03:42.000 They also use it in connection with when he stings him and the guy...

02:03:46.000 What's that?

02:03:48.000 You guys are 50. I don't know the scorpion and the frog.

02:03:52.000 That's a great allegory.

02:03:53.000 Well, the little red riding hood once upon a time when you put your food in a basket, you sent your children in the woods and you legitimately had to worry about them getting eaten by wolves.

02:04:02.000 What was the moral of that story?

02:04:04.000 The moral of the story is this.

02:04:05.000 It's vegans are retarded. 1.00

02:04:07.000 That's the story.

02:04:08.000 These motherfuckers want wolves everywhere. 1.00

02:04:09.000 What was the moral of that story?

02:04:11.000 Because stay the fuck out of the woods.

02:04:12.000 Stay out of the woods.

02:04:13.000 Stay out of the woods.

02:04:14.000 There's a fucking wolf out there.

02:04:15.000 Wolves will eat you. 1.00

02:04:16.000 Yes.

02:04:17.000 And don't trust strangers, actually.

02:04:20.000 That's rule number, numeral.

02:04:21.000 Definitely, for sure, because the person inside the house had pretended to be his grandmother.

02:04:26.000 But the reason why they were always wolves, whether it was Little Red Riding Hood or Three Little Pigs, it was always wolves.

02:04:31.000 It's because wolves legitimately ate a lot of fucking people.

02:04:34.000 And people seem to have forgot about that now, where all these assholes are like, we need to bring back the wolf.

02:04:38.000 We need to make sure the wolves are...

02:04:40.000 Wolves will kill everyone you know. 0.98

02:04:43.000 And they don't eat what they kill.

02:04:45.000 A lot of it was metaphor.

02:04:46.000 They eat some of what they kill.

02:04:47.000 Really?

02:04:47.000 Oh my god.

02:04:48.000 Wolves are so prey-driven that they will kill whole herds of elk and not eat half the meat.

02:04:54.000 I'll slap the fuck out of them.

02:04:55.000 But German fairy tales like Hansel and Gretel, what happens?

02:04:59.000 A lady, an old lady, takes them and she's a witch. 1.00

02:05:02.000 She puts them in a cage and starts feeding them to what? 1.00

02:05:06.000 Plump them up so she can eat them. 0.95

02:05:08.000 Yeah.

02:05:08.000 Moral of the story, don't trust even old ladies.

02:05:11.000 The Germans are like, you're a stranger? 1.00

02:05:13.000 Sorry.

02:05:13.000 Well, also, let's be honest about like a long time ago, a thousand years ago in rural areas where food was scarce and people had suffered through a lifetime of abuse and chaos and seeing murders and seeing assaults and rape and constant,

02:05:32.000 just the programming of a person.

02:05:34.000 How much cannibalism was going on back then?

02:05:36.000 A lot.

02:05:37.000 According to Steve Rinella, like in this country...

02:05:39.000 Really?

02:05:40.000 We were talking about the other day with the Native Americans, the Nez Perce. 1.00

02:05:43.000 Steve Rinella has the best Native American stories.

02:05:46.000 He's a legit scholar, almost.

02:05:49.000 I mean, I don't think he would call himself that, but he's incredibly knowledgeable about Native American history and what the Nez Perce Indians did in the...

02:05:58.000 Like the Great Lakes area?

02:05:59.000 There's a lot of cannibalism, man.

02:06:01.000 A lot.

02:06:01.000 They'd file their teeth down.

02:06:02.000 What if that was a crazy guy writing history?

02:06:05.000 No.

02:06:06.000 Even back then, history was bullshit.

02:06:08.000 There's a lot of documented evidence.

02:06:09.000 What if that all was like, yeah, we got this from an Indian. 0.86

02:06:12.000 They were cannibals, so we have to kill them all. 1.00

02:06:14.000 That's so true.

02:06:15.000 Because they're cannibals. 0.99

02:06:16.000 Look, we got stories.

02:06:17.000 By the way, any problem might be onto something.

02:06:19.000 We got stories.

02:06:20.000 They eat each other.

02:06:20.000 They're going to eat you.

02:06:22.000 Meanwhile, they're all hippies.

02:06:24.000 They were human beings just like all of us.

02:06:26.000 They were human beings just like all of us.

02:06:27.000 They weren't any more noble.

02:06:29.000 They were no more noble than anybody else.

02:06:31.000 They were good people and bad people.

02:06:33.000 They were just as violent as...

02:06:34.000 Hey, the most violent people arguably could be white people. 0.55

02:06:37.000 Look what the Germans did. 0.99

02:06:38.000 Fucking white people, man.

02:06:39.000 Well, I think also, like, when you're dealing with people in the Great Lakes states...

02:06:42.000 Speaking of white people, fucking white people.

02:06:44.000 That's a horrific knockout, man.

02:06:46.000 I don't like seeing that.

02:06:46.000 The Roy Nelson Minotau knockout.

02:06:48.000 But, you know, those people are living in a horrible, horrible climate.

02:06:53.000 Like, the Great Lakes before the invention of heat...

02:06:57.000 Oh, it must have been so fun.

02:06:58.000 Gotta eat each other.

02:07:00.000 Yeah, I mean, people got desperado.

02:07:02.000 Like, you know, we know about the Donner Party in Colorado.

02:07:04.000 They got trapped in the mountains.

02:07:05.000 They had to eat each other.

02:07:06.000 That shit probably happened all the time in the Great Lakes.

02:07:09.000 They just didn't talk about it.

02:07:10.000 You're talking about 15 below zero recently, right?

02:07:13.000 I wonder what part you eat first.

02:07:15.000 Probably the legs or ass. 0.99

02:07:16.000 Just go right to the asshole. 1.00

02:07:17.000 Asshole first?

02:07:18.000 For you, I take the chest.

02:07:19.000 That's aggressive, bro.

02:07:20.000 I eat your chest. 0.91

02:07:20.000 I just say, listen, worst case scenario, I'm eating someone's asshole. 0.91

02:07:23.000 I'm going to scoop it out with a sharp spoon.

02:07:25.000 That's the last thing you eat.

02:07:26.000 I'm going to file a spoon with a fucking...

02:07:28.000 I'm not even going to pass on the shit.

02:07:29.000 You don't even want to...

02:07:29.000 Like, there's shit you have to hold on to.

02:07:31.000 You might need to eat their shit.

02:07:32.000 I would eat their balls and their dick. 1.00

02:07:34.000 You know why?

02:07:34.000 We need to eat that dick first.

02:07:36.000 You know why?

02:07:36.000 Because that's what the raccoons and the squirrels go after first.

02:07:40.000 There's a reason.

02:07:41.000 Think about that.

02:07:42.000 They go after the dick.

02:07:43.000 No, they're both.

02:07:44.000 They go after the dicks. 0.80

02:07:45.000 That's how wolves determine who's the alpha.

02:07:47.000 The alpha gets to eat the liver.

02:07:49.000 Is that true?

02:07:50.000 Yeah, there was a guy who did this whole documentary where he lived with wolves and he lived amongst them and he had to fake a kill.

02:08:00.000 He would have a kill there and he would pack a liver inside of it and he would pull the liver out and eat it in front of them.

02:08:06.000 And he had to eat it in front of them and then he would let them eat.

02:08:08.000 Sounds like a liar.

02:08:09.000 No, no, no, no.

02:08:10.000 There's fucking video of it.

02:08:11.000 It's terrifying.

02:08:12.000 Really?

02:08:14.000 Here's the thing.

02:08:15.000 What happened?

02:08:16.000 He had a farm nearby that was having problems with wolves and this guy was a wolf scientist and so he would go there with these big gigantic speakers that play wolf sounds because he had to scare off this one pack of wolves with a new pack of wolves that invaded Yes.

02:08:31.000 Jesus.

02:08:31.000 And he had to make it scary enough so these wolves backed off.

02:08:34.000 It's all on video.

02:08:35.000 The scary thing is when the alpha...

02:08:37.000 So here's the thing.

02:08:37.000 He came back.

02:08:38.000 The guy came back after a month.

02:08:40.000 And there was a new wolf had taken over.

02:08:42.000 And so the new wolf wanted to kill him.

02:08:44.000 So he had a whimper.

02:08:45.000 He had a whimper in front of this wolf.

02:08:48.000 So he was recognized as the old alpha.

02:08:51.000 And to avoid being killed, which is standard...

02:08:54.000 It's normal.

02:08:55.000 Like a wolf would challenge and they would fight to the death and the new alpha would kill or try to kill the old alpha.

02:09:00.000 He came that close to dying.

02:09:01.000 There was a human involved in all that fucking shit with the wolves.

02:09:10.000 Oh yeah, there's a whole documentary on it.

02:09:12.000 It's called Living with Wolves, I think.

02:09:14.000 Here's the thing about it, man.

02:09:15.000 They don't understand that he's unusual because they've been with him since they were a baby.

02:09:20.000 See, the only way that works...

02:09:22.000 He didn't just walk in.

02:09:23.000 It's a gigantic wildlife preserve.

02:09:25.000 And this guy lives in the wildlife preserve with these wolves.

02:09:28.000 Oh, he knows them.

02:09:29.000 For their whole life.

02:09:30.000 So they've been with him since he was, you know, like four or five years ago.

02:09:34.000 But they're fucking grown, dangerous-ass wolves now.

02:09:37.000 Holy shit.

02:09:38.000 It's amazing.

02:09:40.000 You have to see it.

02:09:41.000 What's it called?

02:09:41.000 Find it, Jamie.

02:09:42.000 Is it called Living With Wolves?

02:09:43.000 I bet it's probably on that.

02:09:45.000 I watched it.

02:09:46.000 Living With Wolves?

02:09:47.000 Oh, shit.

02:09:48.000 Originally, I thought you were saying some guy came in and said, check this out, I'm going to fix this wolf problem. 0.60

02:09:53.000 No, no, no.

02:09:54.000 I'm like, this has got to be some bullshit.

02:09:56.000 Aubrey mentioned to me some dude who was living with the grizzly bears.

02:09:59.000 Oh, yeah, that's grizzly, man.

02:10:00.000 He died, yeah.

02:10:01.000 Got fucked up by the bears.

02:10:02.000 They ate him.

02:10:03.000 And he texts Aubrey like a...

02:10:07.000 What?

02:10:07.000 Am I confusing people?

02:10:08.000 No, you're confusing people.

02:10:09.000 Grizzly Man.

02:10:10.000 That's one of the best documentaries ever.

02:10:11.000 It's a Werner Herzog documentary.

02:10:13.000 Nah, fuck that noise.

02:10:14.000 I'm not talking about that guy.

02:10:17.000 Oh, there's another guy that lives with bears.

02:10:18.000 Yeah.

02:10:19.000 Yeah, maybe.

02:10:19.000 And he was like, they're real aggressive today.

02:10:21.000 And then the thing he ate his asshole, like, the next day. 0.75

02:10:24.000 Well, there was one bear that they used on a movie.

02:10:26.000 They used on, like, some football movie.

02:10:28.000 You're talking about Bart the Bear.

02:10:29.000 Yeah, that bear killed that guy in 12 seconds.

02:10:31.000 Yeah, no shit.

02:10:32.000 No shit.

02:10:33.000 The guy was just standing there doing, like, they were doing some sort of drill together.

02:10:37.000 And the bear just decided to tear his throat apart.

02:10:39.000 But of course, bears are gonna do bear shit. 0.99

02:10:42.000 I agree with you.

02:10:43.000 What did you think was going to happen?

02:10:44.000 Can I talk to a trainer with bears? 0.59

02:10:46.000 It's always possible.

02:10:47.000 I talked to this trainer with bears.

02:10:48.000 He said, well, bears will warn you about three minutes before.

02:10:51.000 If they're having a bad day, you've got to step off.

02:10:53.000 I go, what do they do?

02:10:53.000 They start clicking their jaw.

02:10:55.000 When a grizzly starts clicking his jaw, it's time for you to stop training.

02:10:59.000 Wow.

02:10:59.000 He trains big cats.

02:11:01.000 Look at this fucking idiot.

02:11:02.000 He says they will warn you.

02:11:03.000 What is this?

02:11:05.000 Is this the same guy?

02:11:06.000 Dude, those are wild wolves?

02:11:07.000 No, no, this isn't the same guy, Jamie.

02:11:09.000 No, this isn't the scientist.

02:11:10.000 The scientist was a younger guy, but this is another guy that does the same thing.

02:11:14.000 This guy's pretty badass.

02:11:14.000 Yeah, I think that guy's living with wild wolves.

02:11:17.000 Yeah, Werner Herzog.

02:11:20.000 Werner Herzog.

02:11:21.000 You like chills with him?

02:11:22.000 No, it's not Werner Herzog.

02:11:23.000 Werner Herzog's grizzly man.

02:11:24.000 This guy's name is Werner Frund or something like that.

02:11:27.000 It was a different guy, and I'm really pretty positive it was a younger guy.

02:11:33.000 Oh shit, I'm gonna get all into this now, man.

02:11:35.000 It's amazing.

02:11:36.000 It's amazing.

02:11:37.000 They have a really sophisticated social system.

02:11:40.000 Yeah, they do.

02:11:42.000 You know what I've been into lately, big time?

02:11:46.000 Yeah, they do.

02:11:47.000 Anyway, keep going.

02:11:49.000 Did you end up seeing Making a Murderer and all that?

02:11:52.000 I still haven't seen it.

02:11:53.000 Goddammit, Joey, still haven't seen it?

02:11:54.000 Yeah, I'm a rebel, bro.

02:11:55.000 Yeah, you're a wild man.

02:11:57.000 If you talk shit to me, I'll fucking wait, bitch. 1.00

02:11:58.000 But you walk wolves and bears balls deep.

02:12:00.000 I got a real problem with that, man.

02:12:02.000 I'm obsessed with wildlife.

02:12:04.000 Absolutely fucking obsessed.

02:12:06.000 I'm obsessed.

02:12:07.000 Damn, Royce 39. Have you seen that Netflix documentary about India and the Ganges River?

02:12:12.000 No, what's it called?

02:12:13.000 Dude, it's called Wild in India, but it's on Netflix.

02:12:16.000 Wild in India?

02:12:16.000 The Ganges River is insane.

02:12:20.000 Very dirty.

02:12:21.000 It comes from...

02:12:21.000 No, but listen, it's not that dirty.

02:12:23.000 This is the crazy part about it, is all that river comes from the Himalayas, all the ice and the glaciers in the Himalayas.

02:12:29.000 Wild in India?

02:12:30.000 Something like that on Netflix about India.

02:12:32.000 But the part about the Ganges River, it's a magical fucking river.

02:12:35.000 They burn dead bodies in there.

02:12:38.000 They throw trash, sewage, everything.

02:12:41.000 But there's something...

02:12:42.000 It's called Wildest.

02:12:44.000 Wildest India.

02:12:45.000 Yes, yes.

02:12:46.000 There's something about that water.

02:12:48.000 It has so much mineral composition that...

02:12:52.000 It's like an antibacterial water.

02:12:54.000 It kills all the bacteria and the pathogens.

02:12:58.000 According to this documentary that could be full of shit on Netflix, but they're saying that there's so much sewage goes into there, but it cleanses itself.

02:13:08.000 You can still drink it.

02:13:09.000 You can be down the river, people still drink it.

02:13:10.000 Well, it's not true, because my friend jumped in and had an earache for two years.

02:13:14.000 Dude, I said according to this documentary.

02:13:19.000 This might be some white-on-white crime right now. 0.60

02:13:22.000 Do you remember my bit about the Sundarbans?

02:13:24.000 This is going to be fast.

02:13:25.000 The Sundarbans is no joke, huh?

02:13:27.000 Do you remember that bit I used to have, Eddie, about the guy who got killed in a boat?

02:13:30.000 There was a boat.

02:13:31.000 There was five dudes.

02:13:31.000 With the tigers?

02:13:32.000 Yeah, they swam out to the boat and killed these guys individually, one by one, and dragged them back to the shore.

02:13:37.000 The tigers swam out to the boat three times.

02:13:40.000 Oh, I remember that.

02:13:40.000 You told me that.

02:13:41.000 Three times.

02:13:41.000 There's a documentary that talks about that.

02:13:42.000 They couldn't get out of the way.

02:13:44.000 That's the only spot on the world where tigers actively hunt humans.

02:13:48.000 They love the taste of humans.

02:13:49.000 Fuck that noise.

02:13:51.000 Where's that at?

02:13:53.000 India.

02:13:54.000 Don't go to India. 1.00

02:13:54.000 Oh, I ain't going. 1.00

02:13:55.000 But they got great documentaries about it.

02:13:57.000 Yeah, I'll watch that shit.

02:13:58.000 Well, they've killed literally hundreds of thousands of people over the last hundred years.

02:14:03.000 Hundreds of thousands?

02:14:04.000 Yeah.

02:14:04.000 Over the last hundred years.

02:14:04.000 Tigers?

02:14:05.000 Yeah, they have some nutty number.

02:14:07.000 It's not the worst way to go.

02:14:08.000 Over the last 200 years, I think the number is like 300,000.

02:14:12.000 I quoted the number honestly and realistically in my comedy special.

02:14:16.000 That was in Talking Monkeys in Space.

02:14:18.000 They fucking killed this guy, dragged him to shore, and then jumped back in the water, killed another guy, dragged him to shore, jumped back in the water, killed another guy, dragged him to shore.

02:14:29.000 They couldn't swim away.

02:14:31.000 These things are so fast.

02:14:32.000 They can swim faster than five guys can row a boat at full speed.

02:14:35.000 Is there anything scarier?

02:14:36.000 There's a great book called The Man Eaters of Kumon.

02:14:39.000 Read The Man Eaters of Kumon about tigers.

02:14:40.000 Fuck Jason.

02:14:42.000 That's worse than Jason.

02:14:43.000 Dude, crocodiles don't fuck with them. 0.93

02:14:45.000 Crocodiles don't fuck with tigers. 0.99

02:14:46.000 Rochelt's running from Roy Nelson like he's a tiger right now.

02:14:49.000 Well, Roy Nelson is a dangerous dude.

02:14:51.000 Dude.

02:14:51.000 Roy Nelson throws fucking hammers.

02:14:54.000 You want to talk about a guy who's always been known as a jiu-jitsu guy?

02:14:56.000 He throws fucking fire.

02:14:58.000 Eddie and I knew Roy Nelson back when he was just big country.

02:15:01.000 Everybody called him big country and he was a jiu-jitsu guy.

02:15:06.000 Oh, Jesus, that fucking haymaker. 1.00

02:15:09.000 Back in the Mark Lehman days.

02:15:11.000 Yeah.

02:15:12.000 It's getting low here.

02:15:13.000 Now, are these guys gonna get a Versace contract?

02:15:15.000 Yes.

02:15:16.000 He should.

02:15:17.000 If Versace was fucking smart, they would try to get in on that chubby band dollars.

02:15:22.000 For real, is that dad bod?

02:15:23.000 Come on, folks.

02:15:23.000 Why does everybody have to be beautiful?

02:15:25.000 Roy Nelson in a fucking fat suit with a cigar in his hand.

02:15:28.000 He's sick.

02:15:29.000 His wife on his arm.

02:15:31.000 Dick hanging out.

02:15:32.000 Listen, people love that guy.

02:15:34.000 I really believe absolutely 100% that he's under-marketed by a lot of companies.

02:15:40.000 Companies should scoop that guy up.

02:15:41.000 Schlitz.

02:15:42.000 Burger King was a lot of people.

02:15:45.000 But not even as a joke like that, but just like a good company.

02:15:49.000 He's a man.

02:15:49.000 He's a fucking man.

02:15:50.000 He has the most knockout bonuses in UFC history for heavyweight.

02:15:54.000 Yeah, he's a fucking man.

02:15:56.000 He's an animal.

02:15:57.000 Look at that.

02:15:58.000 He has a grown man running from him.

02:16:00.000 Yeah.

02:16:01.000 I mean, this motherfucker throws hammers. 0.97

02:16:04.000 Do you remember when he knocked out Mitrione?

02:16:06.000 Jesus Christ!

02:16:08.000 Dude, he knocked out Noguera like he was a fucking paper cutout. 1.00

02:16:13.000 Is he the hardest guy that's ever hit you?

02:16:17.000 Yes.

02:16:19.000 Jesus Christ.

02:16:20.000 That was hot.

02:16:20.000 Damn, look at Rochelle.

02:16:22.000 Rochelle can take it.

02:16:24.000 He's like, fuck you, bitch. 1.00

02:16:25.000 Rochelle's about to get knocked out. 1.00

02:16:26.000 I think Rochelle is an elite wrestler, right? 1.00

02:16:29.000 Yeah, Oklahoma State national champ.

02:16:32.000 But heavyweight national champ, it's similar to sumo wrestling.

02:16:37.000 I hate to be shitty about it, but it really is.

02:16:39.000 It really is.

02:16:41.000 Until Brock Lesnar's in your division.

02:16:43.000 Bro, that was 20 years ago.

02:16:45.000 I'm talking about now with the big old fat boys.

02:16:47.000 What's the difference between now and then?

02:16:48.000 Like if Brock Lesnar was around today, is it possible to still have a guy like that?

02:16:52.000 There's no Brock's out there anymore.

02:16:53.000 How come?

02:16:54.000 I don't know.

02:16:55.000 Let's ask that.

02:16:55.000 You follow college wrestling?

02:16:57.000 I watch the finals every year.

02:16:59.000 Harsley, he's an evolution.

02:17:00.000 He's a freak.

02:17:01.000 He's a blonde silverback. 0.99

02:17:02.000 I don't know what the fuck he is.

02:17:03.000 Is it evolution?

02:17:04.000 Are we seeing the last of the Viking DNA? Because he has a regular-sized wife. 0.98

02:17:08.000 Guys are going straight emo now.

02:17:10.000 Yeah, probably.

02:17:10.000 Well, he has a regular-sized wife.

02:17:11.000 I'm sure his children would be fucking gigantic.

02:17:14.000 Maybe.

02:17:14.000 His wife was a pro wrestler, right?

02:17:16.000 Whose wife? 0.88

02:17:17.000 She was a pro wrestler. 1.00

02:17:18.000 She was Sable.

02:17:19.000 And she was fucking... 1.00

02:17:22.000 Fine, son.

02:17:23.000 Beautiful.

02:17:23.000 He did well.

02:17:24.000 He did well for himself.

02:17:25.000 Do I have a calendar?

02:17:26.000 I used to jack off to middle school.

02:17:27.000 How dare you say that about his wife?

02:17:29.000 No, it's a good thing.

02:17:30.000 You son of a bitch!

02:17:31.000 Hey, bring it, bitch! 1.00

02:17:33.000 You don't do shit.

02:17:34.000 You fake fight.

02:17:34.000 Oh, how dare you.

02:17:36.000 It's true.

02:17:37.000 Dude, boy, if you met him in an alley, he's like one of the worst people you could run into for a brief exchange.

02:17:42.000 Dude, he'd rape me.

02:17:42.000 Let's be real.

02:17:43.000 He'd rape me.

02:17:44.000 And I'd have to do something.

02:17:45.000 I'd have to jump on his back.

02:17:46.000 Don't, Brock.

02:17:46.000 I'd have to pull him aside and say, listen.

02:17:49.000 Look at her.

02:17:50.000 That's his wife. 0.99

02:17:51.000 Okay, perfect.

02:17:52.000 His kids are going to be freaks.

02:17:53.000 His kids will probably still be freaks.

02:17:55.000 So when his kids grow to be about 18 years old, we'll start getting nervous again.

02:18:00.000 We'll start getting nervous again.

02:18:02.000 That is impressive.

02:18:03.000 There's no Brock Lesnar out there right now.

02:18:04.000 She's beautiful.

02:18:05.000 Look at that.

02:18:05.000 Well, who was that dude that just fought?

02:18:08.000 That kickboxer dude.

02:18:10.000 Black gentleman from...

02:18:11.000 Was he from Africa?

02:18:13.000 Yeah.

02:18:13.000 In the UFC? Yeah.

02:18:14.000 You're talking about the dude from France.

02:18:15.000 From France.

02:18:16.000 That's right.

02:18:17.000 He was like a shittier looking Czech Congo. 1.00

02:18:20.000 With dreads.

02:18:21.000 Nasty power.

02:18:22.000 Nasty power.

02:18:23.000 For sure take him down. 0.74

02:18:24.000 Yeah, well he got taken down the first round.

02:18:26.000 Who was that?

02:18:27.000 Jamie?

02:18:29.000 Who was that, Jamie?

02:18:30.000 Sable, though, was the hottest. 0.99

02:18:32.000 I haven't talked about her in forever.

02:18:34.000 Sable.

02:18:35.000 Okay, if you can get, like, Gabby Garcia and Shane Carwin to have a kid.

02:18:40.000 Good lordy, Miss Claudia. 1.00

02:18:42.000 What would we have?

02:18:44.000 What would we have?

02:18:45.000 Who?

02:18:45.000 Who again?

02:18:46.000 Shane Carwin and Gabby Garcia.

02:18:48.000 Oh, shit.

02:18:49.000 Oh, shit.

02:18:50.000 You got a woman who's six foot four. 1.00

02:18:51.000 Are you periscoping, you fuck?

02:18:53.000 No.

02:18:54.000 Periscope.

02:18:54.000 What are you doing?

02:18:54.000 I have a periscope.

02:18:55.000 He doesn't know what a periscope is.

02:18:57.000 He has no idea.

02:18:57.000 Shane Carwin and Gabby Garcia have a baby.

02:19:00.000 You think that's a...

02:19:00.000 No, no, no.

02:19:01.000 It's an ultimate super athlete.

02:19:02.000 No, bro.

02:19:02.000 Fuck that noise.

02:19:03.000 How dare you?

02:19:03.000 No, no.

02:19:04.000 Check this out.

02:19:05.000 Shane Carwin and Serena Williams.

02:19:06.000 Oh, you're right.

02:19:07.000 You're right.

02:19:07.000 Interracial as well.

02:19:09.000 Yes!

02:19:09.000 Yeah, there's just a lot of emotional power to both sides combining together in one furious union of athleticism.

02:19:17.000 And you just send that kid to the hood.

02:19:19.000 No, no, no, no.

02:19:20.000 No, you don't make him rich and happy.

02:19:22.000 You send him just...

02:19:23.000 They might not make it out of there, though.

02:19:25.000 Nah, they'll figure it out.

02:19:26.000 I don't know, man.

02:19:27.000 That's a risk.

02:19:28.000 Ha ha! 0.86

02:19:30.000 You have to make more than one.

02:19:32.000 How ridiculous do we get on this fucking convention?

02:19:35.000 This podcast is ridiculous.

02:19:37.000 I'm looking up Sable as we should be outlawed.

02:19:39.000 What was that movie?

02:19:40.000 Remember that guy?

02:19:40.000 Was it Mask?

02:19:41.000 The guy who was born with a deformity?

02:19:43.000 You're talking about with Cher?

02:19:45.000 Yeah.

02:19:45.000 With Cher.

02:19:46.000 That's Mask.

02:19:49.000 What'd you say?

02:19:50.000 The bear guy.

02:19:50.000 The bear guy?

02:19:52.000 Meet Sulu the bear man.

02:19:54.000 Oh, okay.

02:19:54.000 It's a new bear guy.

02:19:55.000 And his face got ripped off too?

02:19:58.000 Did he get killed?

02:19:59.000 Oh, boy.

02:20:00.000 Do you know, Jamie, or are you guessing?

02:20:02.000 They kind of deserve it, though, yeah?

02:20:04.000 Find out if he got killed.

02:20:06.000 Hey, bitch, don't give the beer watermelon, huh? 1.00

02:20:08.000 Well, here's the thing about bears, man.

02:20:09.000 Bears can be a lot like dogs if they're, like, really taken care of.

02:20:14.000 If you feed them and love them.

02:20:16.000 Like, people have lived with bears, where they, like, swim with bears.

02:20:18.000 But you've got to be with them from the time they're a baby.

02:20:20.000 They can never be feral.

02:20:22.000 And you've got to be able to raise them and give them love so they sort of have to identify with you.

02:20:28.000 Get a dog! 0.99

02:20:30.000 But they imprint on you.

02:20:31.000 But they're like a dog in a lot of ways.

02:20:33.000 I agree with you.

02:20:33.000 It's always a risk because you're dealing with something that like one generation removed was completely wild.

02:20:40.000 Like you could easily have a grizzly bear where the mother grizzly bear had to fight for its life against a mountain lion that was trying to kill its baby.

02:20:48.000 You know, that's totally possible.

02:20:49.000 And then here it is, like one generation later, you got the pup and it's living in your house.

02:20:54.000 Tell you right now, I'd rather chill with those grizzly bears than some of those chimpanzees and shit in my house.

02:21:00.000 Yeah, that's a good call.

02:21:02.000 Chimpanzees might decide to fuck you. 1.00

02:21:06.000 Ain't shit you do about it.

02:21:07.000 At least the bears are just gonna rip my throat out. 0.98

02:21:09.000 Chimpanzees just fucking hold you around. 1.00

02:21:11.000 Yeah, that chimp wants to bust a nut in my ass. 1.00

02:21:13.000 He's gonna do it.

02:21:14.000 If you're on the verge of suicide, if you want to commit suicide, then that might be a good idea.

02:21:19.000 You know what?

02:21:19.000 Since you're gonna kill yourself, why not go fucking live with lions?

02:21:22.000 That's what I'm saying, Eddie.

02:21:23.000 You know what I mean?

02:21:24.000 See what happens, and then if they kill you, whatever, you were gonna kill yourself anyways.

02:21:27.000 That's a guy in South Africa who lives with 21 Lions and wrestles with them and stuff. 0.99

02:21:31.000 Yeah, might as well.

02:21:32.000 Good luck.

02:21:33.000 You absolutely turn out great.

02:21:34.000 Yeah, that works out.

02:21:35.000 Are you suicidal?

02:21:37.000 Call this number now.

02:21:39.000 Guys, dudes will do whatever they can to separate themselves from the past.

02:21:44.000 Dude, they're scientists that are like, they want to gain data that, like, you gotta be suicidal to go into those motherfucking dens.

02:21:50.000 Did Rochal catch Roy?

02:21:52.000 Is that what you were doing?

02:21:52.000 No, he fell.

02:21:52.000 He slipped.

02:21:53.000 He slipped.

02:21:54.000 I'm surprised you're not trying to grapple more.

02:21:55.000 I do that all the time, and I get embarrassed when I go, OH! And something won't land.

02:21:59.000 So it slipped.

02:22:00.000 OH! And I'm a professional.

02:22:01.000 Like, I'm at the fights, calling the fight, and someone throws a head kick and it doesn't land.

02:22:05.000 But it looks like it's gonna land, but at the last minute it gets away.

02:22:07.000 I'm like, oh my god.

02:22:09.000 But it's genuine, I swear to god, folks.

02:22:12.000 I swear to god, it slipped.

02:22:13.000 It's tough, though.

02:22:14.000 When I yell, OH! I don't do that accidentally.

02:22:17.000 I mean, I don't do that artificially.

02:22:20.000 This looks like a good-ass fight.

02:22:21.000 These guys look like they're completely related.

02:22:24.000 Yeah, well, they're definitely the same species.

02:22:25.000 They look like brothers.

02:22:27.000 They look like the exact same species.

02:22:28.000 Exact same species.

02:22:30.000 This isn't confusing.

02:22:30.000 At all.

02:22:31.000 You know?

02:22:31.000 Good thing he has a beard, because I wouldn't know.

02:22:33.000 I'd be like, huh?

02:22:35.000 Remember when Keith Hackney fought Emmanuel Yarbrough?

02:22:38.000 Do I ever.

02:22:39.000 You're like, okay, what's going on here?

02:22:41.000 These things are so not similar in their size.

02:22:46.000 These two individuals.

02:22:47.000 They're both picked.

02:22:48.000 These two individuals.

02:22:50.000 Rochelle looks like a supermodel version of the mask, right? 1.00

02:22:53.000 Oh! 0.60

02:22:54.000 That's what you were gonna say!

02:22:55.000 You son of a bitch!

02:22:56.000 That's fucked up!

02:22:58.000 Supermodel version! 0.90

02:22:59.000 It's nothing sacred!

02:23:01.000 It's nothing sacred here!

02:23:02.000 Come on! 0.61

02:23:04.000 How is that talking shit?

02:23:06.000 I said you look like a supermodel!

02:23:08.000 Of the mask!

02:23:09.000 Oh my god!

02:23:10.000 Of the guy from The Cher Show!

02:23:11.000 This is my favorite show of all time!

02:23:13.000 Yes, yes, yes!

02:23:14.000 Of The Cher Show! 0.99

02:23:16.000 Goddammit, Eddie!

02:23:17.000 Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, look!

02:23:18.000 Dammit, Eddie! 0.71

02:23:19.000 Look, look!

02:23:20.000 That's terrible.

02:23:21.000 That's probably the greatest thing I've ever heard.

02:23:24.000 Supermodel! 0.99

02:23:25.000 All right.

02:23:25.000 Oh, that's so funny.

02:23:26.000 I'm not talking about Zoolander.

02:23:28.000 I'm not talking about a joke in Zoolander.

02:23:30.000 I'm talking about, like, Alan Juban.

02:23:31.000 It's his better looking brother.

02:23:32.000 Marcus Schakenberg.

02:23:34.000 Let me say something, man.

02:23:35.000 Your joke is so cool.

02:23:36.000 Marcus Schakenberg.

02:23:37.000 It's going to cost Roy Nelson this fight.

02:23:39.000 The karma of your joke is so cruel.

02:23:41.000 It's not a joke.

02:23:42.000 It's a compliment.

02:23:43.000 You might have fucked over Roy Nelson.

02:23:45.000 It's a compliment.

02:23:45.000 Here's a trivia question.

02:23:46.000 Who is the actor who played him?

02:23:48.000 He's the real dude.

02:23:49.000 Come on, man.

02:23:50.000 That's not makeup.

02:23:51.000 That's a real dude.

02:23:52.000 He passed away.

02:23:53.000 No, I thought that was Eric Stoltz.

02:23:55.000 No, no, no, no.

02:23:56.000 It's Eric Stoltz.

02:23:57.000 No, no, that's Eric Stoltz.

02:23:58.000 Yeah.

02:23:59.000 Are you sure?

02:24:01.000 Goddammit, Brennan.

02:24:01.000 How bad did that make you feel?

02:24:03.000 I was like, oh, no.

02:24:04.000 No, I knew it was Eric Stoltz.

02:24:05.000 Here's a little jujitsu trivia.

02:24:07.000 Powder.

02:24:08.000 Remember that dude?

02:24:09.000 Sean Patrick.

02:24:09.000 You made a black belt in jujitsu.

02:24:11.000 Legit black belt.

02:24:12.000 Under Sean Williams?

02:24:13.000 Yeah.

02:24:14.000 Sean Williams, Henjo Gracie, black belt.

02:24:16.000 Legit lineage.

02:24:16.000 That's a big deal, man.

02:24:17.000 Did Powder do anything after Powder?

02:24:19.000 Well, here's the deal, dude.

02:24:20.000 Did he need to?

02:24:21.000 The guy who directed Powder was a guy who was like, There was some controversy about some alleged child molestation charges, which made Powder a really weird movie.

02:24:33.000 Because Powder was kind of like a Nambla love story to a lot of people. 0.72

02:24:40.000 There was a whole conspiracy about that.

02:24:43.000 That guy got in trouble.

02:24:45.000 It wasn't a little thing.

02:24:47.000 Like, he got in, like, real criminal trouble.

02:24:50.000 I do not remember the specifics.

02:24:51.000 Holy shit, I didn't know that.

02:24:52.000 I do not remember the specifics.

02:24:53.000 Is there a documentary on that?

02:24:55.000 I don't think there is, but there's...

02:24:56.000 Netflix!

02:24:58.000 Netflix!

02:24:59.000 You're fucking slipping!

02:25:00.000 Here, hold on a second.

02:25:00.000 Here we go.

02:25:01.000 Barry Crimmins was the one we were talking about it, I believe.

02:25:03.000 Get on the case, Netflix.

02:25:04.000 Barry Crimmins, was he talking about that?

02:25:06.000 He was talking about AOL. Barry Crimmins was talking about AOL, how child molesters were selling things to AOL, but Barry Crimmins did comment about that guy on a...

02:25:15.000 Was it on a podcast or was it on Twitter?

02:25:17.000 I thought that's how I heard about it.

02:25:18.000 Maybe.

02:25:19.000 You might be right.

02:25:20.000 You might be right.

02:25:20.000 I had known about it before that.

02:25:22.000 There was a big article that was about it, I want to say, like, two years ago.

02:25:27.000 But, yeah, Barry, of course, if you don't know who Barry Crimmins is, he's a Boston comedy legend, and he had a Bobcat Goldthwait do a documentary called Call Me Lucky, and it's about him getting molested when he was a kid.

02:25:39.000 It's horrific, man.

02:25:41.000 He was four years old.

02:25:42.000 He was four years old, and his babysitter's boyfriend would fuck him.

02:25:46.000 God damn.

02:25:48.000 Why'd you bring the podcast down like this?

02:25:50.000 Dude, you gotta see it.

02:25:51.000 Call me Lucky, he's an amazing doctor.

02:25:54.000 Here's the guy.

02:25:55.000 Look at this.

02:25:56.000 Victor Salva loves terrorizing semi-naked youths.

02:26:00.000 Look at him!

02:26:00.000 No shit!

02:26:01.000 But they're semi-naked.

02:26:02.000 Don't be pussies. 0.99

02:26:03.000 That's from 2012 from Vice.

02:26:05.000 Better than naked.

02:26:06.000 Take your shirt off.

02:26:07.000 Ready?

02:26:07.000 Boom!

02:26:08.000 Boom! 0.99

02:26:09.000 What do you mean terrorizing?

02:26:11.000 Semi sounds like bottoms on, tops off.

02:26:15.000 Exactly.

02:26:16.000 Take your pants off, move around, and I might kick you. 1.00

02:26:18.000 I don't know.

02:26:19.000 I might.

02:26:21.000 Damn, Roy's going for the shake kill now.

02:26:23.000 Three for three.

02:26:24.000 Roy had appeared before it was cool.

02:26:26.000 People think he's a hipster.

02:26:27.000 Went for a takedown, did not get it.

02:26:29.000 Roy's wrestling's underrated.

02:26:31.000 Look what he did to Barnett that time.

02:26:32.000 Well, he has a loss on his record that I think is one of the most unfair stand-ups ever.

02:26:36.000 Arlovsky?

02:26:36.000 Against Arlovsky.

02:26:37.000 Side control, working on a Kimura.

02:26:39.000 He has a full double wrist lock.

02:26:41.000 He has the double wrist lock.

02:26:42.000 He doesn't have the lock, right?

02:26:43.000 Because he has to get it locked...

02:26:45.000 Turn behind the back on a strong guy.

02:26:47.000 It's all set up though.

02:26:48.000 Camorra's an interesting move because Marcelo Garcia doesn't like to do it because he thinks it's a strong man move.

02:26:53.000 He doesn't incorporate it.

02:26:55.000 He's all about chokes. 0.98

02:26:56.000 He's all about whatever he does has to work on everybody.

02:26:59.000 What do you think about that?

02:27:00.000 Nothing wrong with that at all.

02:27:02.000 That's a weird way to think.

02:27:03.000 But he doesn't believe in any kind of chokes with Armin, like arm triangles or AK side choke or Darces or Japanese necktie.

02:27:13.000 But I understand.

02:27:14.000 I understand.

02:27:15.000 Really?

02:27:15.000 I totally understand that, hey, shit, if you only focus, you take that time, everybody has the same amount of time to drill.

02:27:23.000 Everyone has the same time.

02:27:24.000 Everyone has 24 hours in a day.

02:27:25.000 Everyone has a life.

02:27:26.000 Everyone...

02:27:27.000 Everyone has the same motherfucking time generally.

02:27:29.000 What are you gonna do with that block every day when you break it all down?

02:27:33.000 What are you gonna do with that block?

02:27:34.000 If you say, why don't you save all that time for shit that works on the big guys?

02:27:40.000 If it works on the big guys, it's gonna work on the small guys.

02:27:42.000 So let's just work on that.

02:27:44.000 There's nothing wrong with that at motherfucking all.

02:27:47.000 That's brilliant.

02:27:48.000 That's genius.

02:27:49.000 Me personally, I like working on everything that works on guys that Have, like, 15 pounds on you.

02:27:58.000 You know what I mean?

02:27:59.000 Because you're gonna be rolling a lot with guys that are your size, and maybe, as long as it works on guys that have a little weight on you, I'm into those moves.

02:28:07.000 To me, that's a legit move.

02:28:08.000 If it works on a guy that's around your size at a high level, I want that move in my character.

02:28:13.000 Henson used to talk about that.

02:28:15.000 He would work on chokes.

02:28:16.000 He said, chokes always work. 1.00

02:28:18.000 Whereas other stuff, you know, is tricky.

02:28:21.000 But there's a difference between arm and chokes, like Darces, Japanese neckties, arm and guillotines, and then straight neck chokes, like Marcella teens, and all these weird little fucking things like Rothwell on Barnett.

02:28:32.000 There's all these ninja chokes and shit.

02:28:34.000 There's about 23 motherfucking ways to squeeze a neck.

02:28:38.000 Yeah.

02:28:38.000 To make a motherfucker tap.

02:28:40.000 Yeah.

02:28:41.000 You know what I mean?

02:28:41.000 So all those take special time to get good at.

02:28:46.000 Just because you're good at one of the 23 has nothing to do with are you good at this one or are you good at that one.

02:28:52.000 You gotta spend the same amount of time on that shit.

02:28:55.000 It might give you a little boost if you're really good at this one.

02:28:58.000 Then you'll get really good at this one quicker than a guy who's not good at that one.

02:29:02.000 But, generally, you gotta spend time in all these chokes to master them. 1.00

02:29:07.000 Eddie, let me ask this before I forget.

02:29:09.000 Who was that?

02:29:09.000 There was one choke that I saw only once in the UFC. It was a choke, like, almost similar to a go-go plata by a kid who was a Tiger Showman student.

02:29:18.000 Nick?

02:29:18.000 Nick something or another?

02:29:20.000 Was that in the UFC? Yes.

02:29:21.000 He had some crazy choke and he said that he invented it while it was going on.

02:29:26.000 He's like, I invented it in the fight.

02:29:29.000 I have no idea what that is.

02:29:31.000 Do you know what I'm talking about?

02:29:32.000 I know what I'm talking about, but I couldn't show you.

02:29:35.000 Guys show me techniques all the goddamn time and I'm like, shit, I should have videotaped that because that shit's gone.

02:29:41.000 If you don't videotaped that, it's gone.

02:29:44.000 Is jiu-jitsu growing any?

02:29:46.000 There it is, Nick Pace.

02:29:47.000 Yeah, Nick Pace.

02:29:49.000 He did some crazy...

02:29:50.000 Let's see if you can find the submission, because it was some weird leg submission. 0.66

02:29:53.000 I don't remember.

02:29:53.000 I couldn't show you.

02:29:54.000 Well, I remember it had something to do with a shin across the neck.

02:29:58.000 It was a leg submission?

02:29:59.000 No, no, no.

02:30:00.000 It was a neck.

02:30:01.000 It was a choke.

02:30:02.000 It was some weird choke that had to do with some weird omoplata-type setup, and he wound up in some position with his shin underneath this guy's neck in an unconventional way that I don't necessarily remember.

02:30:14.000 I'd have to see it again.

02:30:15.000 But I remember saying, have you done that before?

02:30:16.000 And he said, that was the first time he ever did it.

02:30:20.000 Is there a huge difference between guys?

02:30:22.000 That's crazy.

02:30:23.000 Is there a huge difference between really good guys now and 10 years ago?

02:30:26.000 Oh, fuck yeah.

02:30:27.000 Jiu-jitsu-wise, like all different techniques?

02:30:29.000 That's like saying, is there a difference in stand-up comedy now, in general, as in the 80s?

02:30:35.000 Come on, in the 80s, there was a difference.

02:30:37.000 Right.

02:30:38.000 You know what I mean?

02:30:39.000 Same thing.

02:30:41.000 Same Russian comedy?

02:30:43.000 Hey Eddie, look up behind you.

02:30:44.000 That's the choke. 1.00

02:30:46.000 Nick Pace is gonna show us the choke.

02:30:47.000 Why does it look so crappy, Jamie?

02:30:49.000 See, look at this.

02:30:50.000 He grabs it like this.

02:30:51.000 He throws the leg over the neck, and then he shoots under like this, and he grabs his ankle.

02:30:55.000 Look at this.

02:30:56.000 That's gun show control. 0.99

02:30:57.000 It's called gun show.

02:30:58.000 But he chokes him from here.

02:30:59.000 Yep, yep.

02:31:00.000 I got a guy, Ben Eddy, who does this shit.

02:31:02.000 Yeah.

02:31:03.000 All the time.

02:31:04.000 All the time.

02:31:05.000 He came up with this on the fly in the UFC. Damn.

02:31:09.000 And now he calls it the pace joke.

02:31:12.000 I don't recall...

02:31:13.000 That guy's hair is great.

02:31:14.000 Who do not do that?

02:31:16.000 I don't believe...

02:31:16.000 That's legit.

02:31:17.000 Is that Lewis Gowden now?

02:31:17.000 Well, that's legit.

02:31:18.000 Is that Gowden?

02:31:19.000 That's really legit.

02:31:20.000 I got a guy...

02:31:20.000 Maybe not that hair, though.

02:31:21.000 I got a guy whose style is based off that control.

02:31:24.000 You just said it looks nice, fuck.

02:31:25.000 No, but I'm being sarcastic.

02:31:26.000 There's guys that spend a lot of time there.

02:31:28.000 That's an atomic green.

02:31:30.000 Those guys...

02:31:31.000 Tiger Shulman, for a lot of people who don't know, those guys were a giant karate chain.

02:31:36.000 In the East Coast.

02:31:37.000 You see them in New York all the time.

02:31:39.000 They didn't think of them as legit, necessarily, because they thought, well, most giant karate schools aren't legit.

02:31:46.000 However, they are legit.

02:31:48.000 I mean, think Uriah Hall, this fucking kid, Nick Pace came from there.

02:31:52.000 That guy who won last, Frankie Rivera, the guy who won last week against Yuri Alcantara, he's from there.

02:32:00.000 Jimmy Rivera.

02:32:02.000 There's a lot of fucking really high-level guys from Tiger Shulman's.

02:32:06.000 Tiger Shulman, Uriah Hall is, look, his kickbox, or his stand-up is ridiculous.

02:32:10.000 His karate skills, fucking ridiculous.

02:32:13.000 That spinning back kick to the face that he caught Gegard with, he's nasty.

02:32:16.000 That's all Tiger Shulman, man.

02:32:18.000 It's amazing.

02:32:19.000 And this Nick Pace kid.

02:32:20.000 They're one of the few big name schools that was a whole chain that became a real legit gym.

02:32:28.000 That's cool.

02:32:28.000 They're a karate chain.

02:32:31.000 The one karate chain.

02:32:33.000 Maybe there's others that did it.

02:32:34.000 I'm sure there are.

02:32:35.000 But Tiger Schulman's was a straight, dominant karate chain.

02:32:39.000 And when they saw MMA unfold...

02:32:42.000 They jumped on.

02:32:43.000 They were like, okay, we need some jujitsu.

02:32:45.000 We need some of that.

02:32:46.000 We need some of that.

02:32:47.000 So Tiger Showman is open-minded, modern.

02:32:51.000 The other way to look at it also is that you have that big a school, there are always going to be some superstars who are going to come through.

02:32:57.000 No, no, no.

02:32:57.000 Their training is really good.

02:32:59.000 It's not just that.

02:32:59.000 They evolved when most other martial arts, most other traditional martial arts associations didn't evolve.

02:33:06.000 Tiger Showman was all about evolution.

02:33:08.000 Most, most Roy once, son.

02:33:11.000 Traditional martial arts associations are not into evolving because the people at the top, they're fucking lazy.

02:33:19.000 Powerful Roy Nelson.

02:33:20.000 Because they would have to learn all this new shit.

02:33:21.000 Look at this.

02:33:22.000 They don't want to do it.

02:33:23.000 Who does this?

02:33:23.000 Who gets on top of a top row, pulls his shirt up, and rubs his belly?

02:33:26.000 Homer Simpson does that shit all day.

02:33:28.000 It's tough after a decision.

02:33:30.000 Stipe Miocic in the motherfucking house. 0.98

02:33:31.000 Ooh, Stipe got that new girl.

02:33:32.000 Hey, easy.

02:33:33.000 Girl.

02:33:34.000 Dude.

02:33:35.000 God damn it.

02:33:36.000 It's the wine.

02:33:36.000 Yeah.

02:33:38.000 Handsome guy.

02:33:39.000 He's a handsome guy.

02:33:40.000 I got Stipe as a very handsome man.

02:33:42.000 Come on, man.

02:33:44.000 We spent 20 minutes on Alan Juban and you're going to talk about Stipe.

02:33:48.000 Stipe's a handsome guy.

02:33:49.000 He's a big, handsome man.

02:33:51.000 Let's be honest.

02:33:52.000 This is...

02:33:53.000 This has been one of the least fight-heavy fight companions ever.

02:33:56.000 We've barely paid attention to these fights.

02:33:59.000 By the way, Conor McGregor is bigger than Dos Anjos.

02:34:01.000 Is this the gayest one ever? 1.00

02:34:03.000 No, definitely not.

02:34:04.000 Is that we've been gayer?

02:34:05.000 Have we been gayer?

02:34:06.000 Whenever Brian's here, it gets gay. 1.00

02:34:07.000 Yeah, it gets gay. 0.84

02:34:08.000 I can't help it.

02:34:09.000 The dream about your boyfriend.

02:34:10.000 I can hear that over and over and over.

02:34:14.000 Have you had another dream?

02:34:15.000 Was that the only dream?

02:34:16.000 That was the only one.

02:34:17.000 So far, the only dream.

02:34:19.000 I can't wait for Conor Dos Anjos.

02:34:21.000 What do you think?

02:34:22.000 Conor's bigger than Dos Anjos.

02:34:23.000 How about that?

02:34:23.000 How about Dana saying that Conor has no chance?

02:34:27.000 What's up with that?

02:34:27.000 That's crazy.

02:34:28.000 Dana didn't say that.

02:34:28.000 No, he didn't.

02:34:29.000 Oh, he didn't?

02:34:29.000 No.

02:34:30.000 Oh, he didn't?

02:34:30.000 Okay, because that's what it says in the underground.

02:34:33.000 I apologize.

02:34:34.000 I think what he said was, I have a hard time seeing Conor win this fight.

02:34:37.000 I'm paraphrasing.

02:34:38.000 He's being honest.

02:34:39.000 He's being honest.

02:34:40.000 What did I say?

02:34:40.000 No, no, no.

02:34:41.000 It's called honeydicking.

02:34:41.000 What did I say?

02:34:42.000 It's called honeydicking, everybody.

02:34:44.000 Listen, man, you cannot neglect the skills of Dos Anjos.

02:34:48.000 You can't sleep on that guy.

02:34:50.000 When I look at Dos Anjos, I look at a fucking beast, man.

02:34:55.000 The way he put away Benson Henderson, the way he put away Donald Cerrone, the way he beat the fuck out of Sergio Pettis, or excuse me, Anthony Pettis, he's something special, man.

02:35:04.000 Dude, I can't think of a worse matchup for Conor, but Conor, you talk to Conor, he thinks that it's a legit, he goes, ah, he's just like Jose Aldo, but shittier version.

02:35:12.000 Do you think he's really trying to start his own promotion?

02:35:14.000 Do you think that's legit, or that's bullshit?

02:35:17.000 What's Conor gonna do about his wrestling?

02:35:19.000 What's he gonna do about his wrestling?

02:35:20.000 That's real.

02:35:21.000 I think so, he has the power.

02:35:22.000 He's actually saying, Did he actually say he's going to start his own promotion?

02:35:26.000 Listen, man, if I was Conor McGregor, why would I work for the UFC after a while?

02:35:30.000 I would go, I'm just going to do the Conor McGregor show.

02:35:32.000 Take that shit in the road with all the best concert promoters.

02:35:35.000 So it's real?

02:35:35.000 I would imagine.

02:35:36.000 Is that real?

02:35:37.000 You guys know, I don't know.

02:35:38.000 I would imagine if Conor McGregor has a contract that would allow him at a certain time to no longer be with the UFC, he could do whatever the fuck he wants.

02:35:45.000 He can take the sport with him.

02:35:46.000 But, here's the question.

02:35:48.000 Why would he?

02:35:48.000 How dare you ghost those last two fights on that main event?

02:35:52.000 Ghost him?

02:35:53.000 What?

02:35:54.000 What'd you say?

02:35:55.000 Amanda Nunez is no joke. 0.99

02:35:57.000 Let's not talk about that right now.

02:36:00.000 What I'm saying about Conor is that Conor is a fucking legit superstar.

02:36:04.000 But the UFC made him a superstar.

02:36:06.000 The UFC is the perfect vehicle.

02:36:08.000 They've got everything down.

02:36:09.000 The promotion, the management, the way it's all set up, the way the marketing is on point, it's on another level.

02:36:16.000 If you go to some other organization, good luck running a smooth ship.

02:36:20.000 What happened to Affliction?

02:36:22.000 What happened to Elite XC? What happened to Strikeforce?

02:36:25.000 Bellator even.

02:36:25.000 Bottom line, bottom line.

02:36:27.000 This is the bottom line.

02:36:27.000 Conor McGregor would be unknown to the world in Ireland training in a boxing gym if it wasn't for the UFC. I agree 100%.

02:36:36.000 You've got to remember that shit.

02:36:37.000 The UFC made him famous.

02:36:39.000 Agree?

02:36:39.000 He still deserves the money.

02:36:41.000 It was a cooperative venture.

02:36:43.000 There's no either or.

02:36:44.000 They're not mutually exclusive in their amount of success that was dependent upon their actions.

02:36:50.000 They both benefit from the relationship.

02:36:51.000 No, make no mistake about it.

02:36:53.000 The UFC would always be big.

02:36:54.000 It would always be big.

02:36:56.000 If there was never a Conor, the UFC would be just as big.

02:36:59.000 But never as big as with a guy like that.

02:37:01.000 If you want to be as big as what that guy is, you need a Conor McGregor.

02:37:04.000 It's the only way it happens.

02:37:05.000 No doubt about it.

02:37:06.000 Or Ronda.

02:37:07.000 Or Brock Lesnar.

02:37:09.000 Yeah.

02:37:10.000 I've always been fucking fascinated with Conor.

02:37:14.000 Maybe GSP today?

02:37:15.000 Maybe GSP today.

02:37:16.000 Why?

02:37:16.000 Why do you say that?

02:37:16.000 Because I think the UFC today is bigger than it's ever been.

02:37:19.000 Oh, you're saying a young GSP? A young GSP today, if he was a champion, goddammit, girls would be... 1.00

02:37:25.000 Fucking damp panties would be filling up 100,000 seat arenas. 1.00

02:37:29.000 He's a stud.

02:37:30.000 He's a stud.

02:37:31.000 He's a stud.

02:37:32.000 He's so big.

02:37:32.000 GSP was in his prime when he beat BJ Penn for defending his title.

02:37:38.000 When he was in his prime.

02:37:40.000 If the UFC was...

02:37:41.000 I think the UFC's probably...

02:37:43.000 I don't know how many more people watch it now than then, but as far as being well-known, it's way more well-known.

02:37:49.000 I agree.

02:37:50.000 Way more.

02:37:51.000 What about BJ Penn coming back?

02:37:53.000 What the fuck?

02:37:54.000 Amazing.

02:37:54.000 That's crazy, right?

02:37:55.000 He did the right thing.

02:37:56.000 He went to fucking Greg Jackson.

02:37:58.000 God damn it.

02:37:59.000 He thought about it.

02:38:00.000 He's sitting there and fucking on Hilo, chilling the volcanoes outside the fucking window.

02:38:05.000 He thought about it and he knew it.

02:38:07.000 He came back.

02:38:08.000 What did he fucking do?

02:38:09.000 He goes to Greg Jackson.

02:38:11.000 I mean, he did the best fucking thing possible.

02:38:13.000 I mean, he could have went to AKA, he could have went to Tristar, all that shit.

02:38:16.000 But he decided to go to one of the top fucking schools.

02:38:21.000 Greg Jackson's not a bad goddamn choice.

02:38:23.000 Oh, it's the best choice.

02:38:24.000 Come on! 0.61

02:38:25.000 Well, it's one of like five best choices.

02:38:27.000 Yes!

02:38:27.000 Like, Eric Del Fiero, down at the Lions, that's a best choice.

02:38:31.000 You've got Firas Zahabi, who is probably my first choice, or one of them.

02:38:36.000 He'd be my number one.

02:38:36.000 Him or Lisa As a striking coach, you mean?

02:38:39.000 As an everything coach.

02:38:41.000 Farras is a mastermind.

02:38:42.000 John Donahue is another mastermind.

02:38:45.000 That's Farras, though.

02:38:47.000 I think Donahue is with Farras.

02:38:49.000 Number one, Mighty Mouse is coach.

02:38:51.000 Matt Hume.

02:38:52.000 So you're right.

02:38:53.000 Matt Hume and Farras, a hobby, to me, are commensurate.

02:38:56.000 I think they're exactly the same level.

02:38:58.000 They're both wizards.

02:38:59.000 Both are masters.

02:39:00.000 Both those guys, they're masters.

02:39:01.000 Matt Hume had more MMA fights, I think.

02:39:04.000 Feras had a lot of kickboxing fights.

02:39:06.000 But Feras is nasty on the ground, and he's a super genius.

02:39:09.000 When it comes to his analytical mind, the way he breaks down fights, he breaks down street fights.

02:39:13.000 He does YouTube videos where he breaks down...

02:39:15.000 Really?

02:39:15.000 Yeah, he breaks down how this guy came at a guy, and he cracked this guy with a left hook, and he explains the footwork, and draws it in a diagram.

02:39:21.000 He's also young.

02:39:22.000 And you know what he also did?

02:39:23.000 He's smart as fuck.

02:39:24.000 He's cool.

02:39:24.000 You know what he did?

02:39:24.000 He's younger, and he's been through it like he came up with everyone.

02:39:27.000 You know the coolest fucking thing he did?

02:39:29.000 He just put out a video where he's testing guard work and ground and pound on guards.

02:39:35.000 What guard works best for ground and pound?

02:39:37.000 He did this shit.

02:39:38.000 He put it on YouTube.

02:39:40.000 He put it up.

02:39:40.000 So he had him.

02:39:42.000 Him.

02:39:43.000 Gary Toten and I think Gordon Ryan, they had some dude jump with boxing gloves, jump in their guard and start pounding them.

02:39:52.000 And in the video, the guys on the bottom, whether it was Faraz, Gary Toten, or I think it was Gordon, I don't fucking know who that third guy was.

02:40:01.000 But they were just wrecking the guy on top with leg locks, just a bunch of different things.

02:40:05.000 It was like a revolutionary experimentation, one of the smartest things you could ever do.

02:40:13.000 Makes sense.

02:40:16.000 He needs to, I think we should add, there's different scenarios in ground and pound.

02:40:22.000 It's not always the same, ground and pound.

02:40:25.000 Sometimes a guy's on top, he doesn't want to even be on the ground.

02:40:29.000 So if you're not holding him on the ground, he's going to stand up and back out.

02:40:33.000 You have to have that, that scenario too.

02:40:35.000 What happens in that scenario?

02:40:38.000 For a guy that's on top in your guard, you must have pulled guard because he didn't try to take you down.

02:40:43.000 He wants to stay on his feet.

02:40:44.000 So as soon as you open your guard, he's going to back out and he's gone.

02:40:47.000 So what guard is best for that scenario?

02:40:50.000 And there's another scenario also.

02:40:51.000 You have the scenario where your opponent is getting beat up on his feet.

02:40:56.000 So he's taking you down at will and you have to deal with a guy who's trying not to let you stand up.

02:41:03.000 So I think...

02:41:05.000 Version two of those ground and pound experimentations.

02:41:10.000 I thought it was seven or something.

02:41:10.000 To figure out what's the best guard.

02:41:11.000 I think that's my two cents.

02:41:14.000 But what the fuck do I know?

02:41:15.000 I don't know.

02:41:16.000 But the fact that Feras actually did that, he's already experimenting on what is the best guard for ground and pound.

02:41:23.000 It's brilliant.

02:41:24.000 I love it.

02:41:25.000 I want more.

02:41:26.000 He makes his UFC debut.

02:41:31.000 But I could have swore.

02:41:32.000 Eddie, you trying to bet on this main event, son?

02:41:35.000 I'm trying to...

02:41:37.000 You want to break down the girl again? 1.00

02:41:38.000 You make a good point, Eddie, and you know what another good point?

02:41:40.000 Ryan Callahan talked about Fabrizio Verdum's guard, and he was like, none of our ground and pound worked on him.

02:41:45.000 With King Mo, who's a nasty wrestler.

02:41:47.000 King Mo's like world-class wrestler.

02:41:49.000 We need more of those films than Ferraz did.

02:41:51.000 We need those on a consistent basis.

02:41:55.000 Here's the thing, though, Eddie.

02:41:56.000 I think there's only like five guys who can do that.

02:41:58.000 I mean, that's how high in regard I hold Ferraz the hobby.

02:42:01.000 His stand-up's ridiculous, too.

02:42:03.000 Ridiculous.

02:42:03.000 He's just a real martial arts wizard.

02:42:06.000 He's a super smart guy.

02:42:09.000 You ever talk to him?

02:42:10.000 I've trained with him.

02:42:12.000 Tell me what that's like.

02:42:14.000 He honestly set the blueprint for everyone in Denver, like Shane Carwin, myself, Nate McCart, in the blueprint for GSP. He had them doing all this different stuff.

02:42:25.000 A lot of movement.

02:42:25.000 He's a genius, man.

02:42:26.000 Like what kind of shit?

02:42:27.000 Like walking on logs.

02:42:28.000 No, definitely know that movement shit.

02:42:32.000 No movement!

02:42:32.000 Playing when I was a kid.

02:42:34.000 Playing with rocks.

02:42:35.000 A lot of the drilling.

02:42:37.000 You have George drill a ton.

02:42:39.000 More than we would drill.

02:42:40.000 Drill what?

02:42:40.000 Movement?

02:42:40.000 Instead of just sparring.

02:42:41.000 No, drilling on the pads, jiu-jitsu movements, starting worst case scenario, where we weren't doing that.

02:42:47.000 He's a legit genius.

02:42:49.000 I think that's one of the biggest mistakes that people make is too much sparring, even in jiu-jitsu.

02:42:53.000 I was talking to a buddy of mine who's a Purple Belt about this, and he's like, he hurt his hip, and he had to get a hip replacement surgery.

02:42:59.000 And, you know, he's like our age.

02:43:01.000 He's like in his late 40s.

02:43:02.000 And he's a very successful businessman, and he went from there to going back to training again, but...

02:43:08.000 Once he healed up, he's doing drills.

02:43:11.000 And he's like, man, I'm telling you, just from doing all these drills, my jiu-jitsu has gotten much, much better.

02:43:15.000 Because now he's constantly improving upon his database of positions.

02:43:20.000 Patterns, right?

02:43:20.000 Patterns?

02:43:21.000 Yes.

02:43:21.000 It's really the only way to get that.

02:43:22.000 A lot of it's pattern chunking, man.

02:43:24.000 You were talking about Henner, like a good Henner Gracie is, like pattern chunking his whole life.

02:43:28.000 He just understands jiu-jitsu.

02:43:29.000 Boxing's that way.

02:43:30.000 Boxing's a series of patterns, and then mixing them all up.

02:43:33.000 So is Taekwondo.

02:43:34.000 Dude, look at Johnny Hendricks' body.

02:43:35.000 He looks fit.

02:43:38.000 Now, Johnny Hendricks beat Tyron Woodley in the NCAA... What are you saying?

02:43:42.000 How does he look?

02:43:43.000 Johnny Hendricks looks amazing.

02:43:44.000 He looks slim, right?

02:43:45.000 Yes.

02:43:46.000 He doesn't look at all like he had any sort of a weight problem.

02:43:48.000 He was underweight this morning.

02:43:50.000 Or when they weighed in, he was underweight the morning of the weights.

02:43:52.000 That's the French guy.

02:43:53.000 This motherfucker.

02:43:54.000 Woo! 0.99

02:43:54.000 Jack. 0.99

02:43:55.000 What's his name?

02:43:56.000 Francis...

02:43:57.000 Make that larger.

02:43:58.000 Ingano.

02:43:59.000 Ingano.

02:43:59.000 Man, he's a beast.

02:44:00.000 He's got some serious power.

02:44:02.000 Yeah.

02:44:03.000 And good defense on the ground, too, when he got taken down.

02:44:05.000 The dude didn't do shit to him.

02:44:07.000 He may be French, but he's West African, sir.

02:44:08.000 Oh, for sure.

02:44:10.000 He's gigantic, too.

02:44:11.000 That's a stud.

02:44:12.000 That's a warrior.

02:44:13.000 When I was interviewing him, I'm like, hi.

02:44:15.000 Jesus.

02:44:16.000 Just going to interview you over here.

02:44:17.000 I went to interview him, and he decided he wanted to walk away and go see how the guy's feeling after he beat the fuck out of him.

02:44:25.000 I'm like, okay.

02:44:26.000 I'll just be over here.

02:44:28.000 You do your thing, buddy.

02:44:29.000 Look at him.

02:44:30.000 What a man.

02:44:32.000 He fucked that dude up.

02:44:33.000 I don't know who the fuck he fought.

02:44:34.000 He's probably got a tiny dick, right?

02:44:35.000 I don't know if the guy he had fought.

02:44:37.000 Look at Joe Silva next to him.

02:44:38.000 He's a debut to us.

02:44:39.000 Look at Joe Silva.

02:44:40.000 Look where he comes up to with these guys.

02:44:42.000 Oh my lord.

02:44:43.000 But he holds their fate.

02:44:45.000 Listen.

02:44:45.000 He holds their fate.

02:44:46.000 Joe Silva, he's a great guy.

02:44:48.000 He just needs mushrooms.

02:44:50.000 And a fucking reality check.

02:44:52.000 Mushrooms are a reality check, Brendan.

02:44:54.000 Oh.

02:44:55.000 I think an ass whoop him would be the same thing. 0.99

02:44:57.000 Oh, how dare you?

02:44:58.000 Listen, I like Joe Silva.

02:44:59.000 I have never had any ill dealings with Joe Silva.

02:45:02.000 He is my friend.

02:45:03.000 I enjoy him as a human being.

02:45:05.000 Perfect.

02:45:05.000 I do not know what the fuck went down with you and Joe Silva.

02:45:08.000 Me?

02:45:09.000 Ask any fighter.

02:45:10.000 You bitches need to work that shit out on your own. 1.00

02:45:13.000 Nah, now I'm good now.

02:45:16.000 Brendan, if you decide in another dimension, you decide to come back and you're going to fucking do it.

02:45:21.000 You're going to come back one more time, you're going to make a comeback.

02:45:23.000 What camp do you join and what is your strategy?

02:45:27.000 It's hard to turn down Muscle Farm with Leaster Bowen right now, but I'd probably go TriStar.

02:45:32.000 I like Muscle Farm for a couple reasons.

02:45:34.000 One, it's a big new facility.

02:45:36.000 Everything's super state-of-the-art and it's got some momentum.

02:45:39.000 A lot of dudes are gravitating towards there.

02:45:41.000 Leister, Elliott Marshall, Dwayne Ludwig is in cahoots.

02:45:46.000 There's a lot of other really good striking coaches.

02:45:48.000 You've got Brandon Thatch.

02:45:50.000 Is Clegg Weed there now?

02:45:51.000 You know why it's happening?

02:45:52.000 Clegg Weed is there.

02:45:53.000 You know why Muscle Farm is happening?

02:45:55.000 Ryan Drexler, the guy who's running it now, he's a student of mine, and he always wanted to...

02:46:02.000 He was very successful in the supplement industry, very, very successful, and his passion was to build an MMA, too.

02:46:10.000 Years ago!

02:46:11.000 Years ago!

02:46:12.000 Here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go.

02:46:14.000 Clay Guida, that fight with Diego Sanchez and Clay Guida was the craziest fight ever.

02:46:18.000 Hendricks and Thompson is about to start, and we gotta pay attention to this.

02:46:22.000 Okay.

02:46:23.000 This shit's important.

02:46:23.000 First of all, Hendricks, you're right.

02:46:25.000 Any predictions?

02:46:26.000 Hendricks looks fantastic.

02:46:27.000 Hendricks looks so fit.

02:46:30.000 Dude, he's never looked like that.

02:46:32.000 He looks so fit.

02:46:33.000 He's got to solve that wrestling.

02:46:34.000 Well, he fucked up in the Tyron Woodley fight.

02:46:36.000 He didn't make weight.

02:46:37.000 Look at this fucking side stance.

02:46:38.000 This side stance is so unusual.

02:46:41.000 This is so epic right now.

02:46:42.000 How epic is this?

02:46:43.000 And here's the thing about Stephen Thompson is that he's been training a lot with Weidman.

02:46:47.000 Damn!

02:46:47.000 So his wrestling has gotten a lot better, and he's not worried about being taken down.

02:46:51.000 Guess what?

02:46:52.000 He'll get taken down by Johnny.

02:46:53.000 He also trains with Ryan Hall.

02:46:54.000 He might get taken down, but he might not.

02:46:57.000 You're talking about NCAA champ.

02:46:58.000 NCAA champ, that's hard to deal with.

02:47:00.000 Yeah, you're right.

02:47:01.000 It is hard to deal with.

02:47:02.000 You know what else is hard to deal with?

02:47:03.000 57-0 in kickboxing.

02:47:05.000 Yeah.

02:47:05.000 That's super hard to deal with, dude.

02:47:07.000 See, Johnny's wrestling's way harder.

02:47:09.000 Johnny's wrestling's so tough.

02:47:10.000 Maybe.

02:47:11.000 In an MMA fight, I think the wrestling's hard to deal with.

02:47:13.000 Listen, we're watching it.

02:47:14.000 Let's just watch it.

02:47:15.000 We don't know what the fuck is going to happen.

02:47:17.000 You might be right, but you're saying what's definitely going to happen while it's happening.

02:47:22.000 That seems ridiculous.

02:47:23.000 No, I'm just saying probability.

02:47:25.000 That's how I sound like a wizard.

02:47:27.000 Are you psychic?

02:47:28.000 I'm a little psychic, dude.

02:47:30.000 I see things exactly one second before they happen.

02:47:33.000 This is the worst kind of commentary ever.

02:47:34.000 I knew that.

02:47:35.000 Imagine if we did commentary like this, saying what's going to happen while different shit is happening.

02:47:41.000 Don't say shit!

02:47:41.000 He's gonna take him down, he's gonna take him down, he's gonna crush him.

02:47:43.000 Don't predict!

02:47:44.000 No, he's not even taking him down.

02:47:45.000 No, it's actually happening right now.

02:47:46.000 The predictions are making cool.

02:47:48.000 Countering, countering.

02:47:50.000 Watch this sidekicks, a lot like mine.

02:47:52.000 A lot like mine.

02:47:53.000 More of that, more of that.

02:47:55.000 King to the face, dude, I'm telling you.

02:47:58.000 There's very few guys that can avoid the takedown like him and have these kind of skills.

02:48:02.000 It's a completely different kind of leg dexterity.

02:48:04.000 His movement's nasty.

02:48:05.000 Dude, he used to fight in that Chuck Norris league.

02:48:07.000 Oh! 0.60

02:48:08.000 Dude, Johnny Hendrix is in a world of trouble here.

02:48:11.000 He's getting lit up.

02:48:12.000 He's getting lit up like Christmas tree.

02:48:13.000 Thompson can do some shit that Hendrix has not seen before.

02:48:16.000 Yeah.

02:48:16.000 It's hard to get a sparring partner.

02:48:18.000 It's hard to get a sparring partner like this.

02:48:19.000 You're not going to find a guy like him.

02:48:21.000 No.

02:48:21.000 You're not going to.

02:48:22.000 And he's hard to take down.

02:48:23.000 He's hard to take down.

02:48:23.000 He is one of the elites in American kickboxing.

02:48:26.000 Oh, shit.

02:48:27.000 He's a freak.

02:48:28.000 Look at him, man.

02:48:29.000 Oh, shit.

02:48:29.000 He fights like a snake.

02:48:31.000 It's hard to deal with.

02:48:31.000 It doesn't look good at all.

02:48:32.000 So much taller.

02:48:33.000 Look at that step in right hand.

02:48:35.000 It depends on who you're looking for.

02:48:37.000 If you're looking for Thompson, it's looking excellent.

02:48:39.000 Yeah, it's looking great.

02:48:40.000 I'm talking about Hendricks.

02:48:42.000 It's not looking good.

02:48:43.000 Hendricks is in a bad situation.

02:48:45.000 Hendricks is trying to throw that kick and he's getting caught.

02:48:48.000 He's getting timed.

02:48:48.000 He's in a terrible situation here.

02:48:50.000 This is Ronda Rousey.

02:48:51.000 Oh, look at this switch kick!

02:48:53.000 Jumping switch kick.

02:48:54.000 Jumps with the left and kicks with the right.

02:48:56.000 Right hand on the chin.

02:48:57.000 God.

02:48:58.000 Duh! 1.00

02:48:58.000 He's lighting him up. 1.00

02:48:59.000 And no relentless.

02:49:01.000 How tough is Johnny Hendricks?

02:49:02.000 He doesn't even look like he's getting hurt.

02:49:04.000 He just keeps coming forward.

02:49:05.000 Dude, Wonderboy might be able to do this to everybody.

02:49:09.000 How about that?

02:49:10.000 I've said that for a long time.

02:49:12.000 I think he beats Robbie Lawler.

02:49:13.000 I'll call it now.

02:49:13.000 Well, he's learning how to fucking fight MMA at the same level that he learned to be this elite kickboxer.

02:49:22.000 Did I watch him in that Chuck Norris thing?

02:49:23.000 Remember the World Combat League where they were fighting that bull?

02:49:26.000 He was in that?

02:49:27.000 He was in that?

02:49:27.000 He was in that.

02:49:28.000 He was the champ.

02:49:29.000 I don't know if he fought in the world, but I was a fan of that Chuck Norris kickboxing league.

02:49:34.000 He was the champion?

02:49:35.000 Look at that.

02:49:35.000 He was one of the best guys in it.

02:49:38.000 Oh my god.

02:49:38.000 He was one of the best guys in it.

02:49:40.000 Johnny's covering well.

02:49:41.000 Damn, I didn't know that.

02:49:42.000 Look at that right hook. 0.99

02:49:43.000 He just caught it with.

02:49:45.000 Dude, look at this dude.

02:49:46.000 Oh! 0.60

02:49:47.000 It's over, kid.

02:49:48.000 He just dropped him.

02:49:49.000 It's over.

02:49:49.000 Oh, no.

02:49:50.000 Dude, he's gonna fight by title.

02:49:51.000 Oh, my God.

02:49:53.000 He's crushing it.

02:49:54.000 And he's talking to him, saying sorry.

02:49:56.000 Oh! 0.60

02:49:56.000 Oh, God. 0.60

02:49:57.000 Johnny just looked at the clock.

02:49:58.000 Oh, no.

02:49:59.000 It's over.

02:50:00.000 Oh, shit.

02:50:00.000 Oh, my God.

02:50:02.000 Goddamn.

02:50:02.000 Oh, my God.

02:50:03.000 Title shot.

02:50:04.000 You can't fight that guy.

02:50:05.000 Title shot.

02:50:05.000 I've been saying it.

02:50:06.000 I've been saying it.

02:50:08.000 Oh, look at this.

02:50:08.000 He can't even walk.

02:50:09.000 Oh no, he was doing the Karate Kid.

02:50:11.000 He was never doing the Karate Kid.

02:50:12.000 It's epic!

02:50:14.000 He got you!

02:50:14.000 Yes!

02:50:15.000 Dude, are you kidding me?

02:50:17.000 Oh my god, he double got me.

02:50:18.000 He double got me.

02:50:19.000 I thought he was hurt.

02:50:20.000 Oh shit, son!

02:50:21.000 Jesus Christ.

02:50:22.000 Fuck movement!

02:50:23.000 Fuck movement!

02:50:25.000 Fuck it!

02:50:26.000 Hey, Conor McGregor, definitely don't try to go up to 70. His movement is karate.

02:50:31.000 He has minimal movement!

02:50:32.000 I mean, that footwork movement is just like doing all those movement drills with karate, and you see the way he does flips?

02:50:37.000 I guarantee you, McGregor will never say the 70-pound belt is looking good to me.

02:50:40.000 He'll never say that.

02:50:41.000 Oh, my God.

02:50:41.000 You don't want to fight this guy.

02:50:43.000 Dude, look at this.

02:50:44.000 Look at what he did.

02:50:44.000 Boom!

02:50:46.000 Precision typing!

02:50:48.000 Oh, that one right there! 0.69

02:50:49.000 Look at the precision though!

02:50:50.000 The precision!

02:50:51.000 Bam! 0.98

02:50:52.000 He knew it!

02:50:53.000 Bam! 0.98

02:50:53.000 The uppercut! 0.98

02:50:55.000 Poor Johnny, man.

02:50:57.000 The difference in the level and he nodded at him.

02:51:00.000 Look at this.

02:51:00.000 No, he nods at him.

02:51:01.000 He's like, yep, you got me.

02:51:02.000 Dude, he got lit up.

02:51:04.000 Poor John.

02:51:05.000 He couldn't get taken down.

02:51:06.000 He couldn't get taken down.

02:51:07.000 That was the key.

02:51:08.000 This is the former champion who's gone through the best camp of his life.

02:51:11.000 He's in the best shape he's ever been.

02:51:13.000 He comes in there motivated and he gets torn apart by a genius.

02:51:17.000 How do you not give him a title shot?

02:51:18.000 How do you not give him a title shot?

02:51:19.000 It has to be a title shot.

02:51:22.000 We're witnessing the second wave of evolution.

02:51:25.000 Woodley just got fucked.

02:51:25.000 First, that was Machida, but we needed another one.

02:51:28.000 We needed another one.

02:51:29.000 Machida was like, okay, he's a special one.

02:51:31.000 It's still not karate.

02:51:32.000 Now, we see it.

02:51:34.000 For sure.

02:51:35.000 The wave coming.

02:51:36.000 He is the wonder boy, dude.

02:51:38.000 Guys, this is one round.

02:51:39.000 You can do Woodley and him for the fucking title.

02:51:42.000 Give Robbie Lawler a little bit of a break.

02:51:44.000 Nah, man.

02:51:44.000 He just got through a war with Carlos Condit.

02:51:46.000 Karate is back.

02:51:47.000 Give him some time off.

02:51:48.000 Karate is back.

02:51:50.000 Stronger than ever.

02:51:50.000 Jesse Thompson.

02:51:51.000 Thompson Lawler.

02:51:52.000 Yeah, but come on, son.

02:51:53.000 Wouldn't you want to see him versus...

02:51:55.000 He'll light Lawler up, in my opinion.

02:51:57.000 That's what I'm saying, B. It's hard to take Woodley's title shot away.

02:51:59.000 It's very hard.

02:52:00.000 You don't have the UFC roles.

02:52:02.000 I do, but I'm saying...

02:52:04.000 That's six in a row.

02:52:04.000 In a sense of fairness, if we're going to look at a sense of fairness, it's very difficult.

02:52:08.000 He's going to outstrike everybody.

02:52:09.000 But how much would you like to see him versus Damian Myers?

02:52:13.000 He's going to outstrike everybody up.

02:52:15.000 I'd like to see him fight.

02:52:16.000 If Hendricks can't take him down, Maya's not going to be able to take him down. 0.99

02:52:21.000 Wonderboy, he kicks Damian Maia's face.

02:52:23.000 He's going to be on a fucking island.

02:52:26.000 He and Condit would be a good fight.

02:52:29.000 I've been predicting the rise of Wonderboy for a while.

02:52:31.000 Karate is back.

02:52:33.000 He had one bad fight.

02:52:34.000 Four years ago.

02:52:35.000 He was overtrained against Matt Brown.

02:52:37.000 And since then, he's been dominant and getting better every time.

02:52:39.000 And he was smart.

02:52:41.000 He's a 170. Look at that. 0.96

02:52:42.000 He goes and trains the 185 pound champion who's one of the grittiest fucking wrestlers in the game.

02:52:46.000 He goes to Weidman's camp, Weidman's a bigger guy, and he learns how to survive.

02:52:50.000 Bro, people, a lot of people don't know, Steven Wanderboy Thompson got his start from GSP. GSP was fighting Carlos Condit, brought Wanderboy in, I don't know how they met, brought him in.

02:53:01.000 And then he sent them to Denver to train with Nate, myself, all the guys, and he was just fucking everybody up.

02:53:09.000 Meanwhile, how about this?

02:53:10.000 One of the most marketable guys ever.

02:53:14.000 The nicest guy.

02:53:17.000 Legitimately the nicest, friendliest guy you'd ever want to meet.

02:53:21.000 Clean cut.

02:53:22.000 Doesn't look like some murderer.

02:53:23.000 I hope he asked for a title shot here.

02:53:25.000 Like, look at him!

02:53:26.000 He's gonna thank God.

02:53:29.000 I gotta thank God.

02:53:35.000 Jesus Christ, this kid's good.

02:53:38.000 He's religious? 0.82

02:53:39.000 There's something to this guy's shit.

02:53:40.000 If this guy came up to you at a club and said he was a fucking badass striker, you'd laugh at him.

02:53:43.000 I'm gonna go to church and get better at fighting.

02:53:45.000 I knew he was gonna try and get into the cage.

02:53:47.000 Use his hands to set it up for the takedown.

02:53:49.000 Like, this guy's on fucking speed.

02:53:51.000 Look at that front leg side kick, dude.

02:53:53.000 You see the extension?

02:53:54.000 Look at that front round kick.

02:53:55.000 Looks a lot like mine.

02:53:56.000 Well, it'd be better if it wasn't.

02:53:58.000 Boom! 0.99

02:53:59.000 Left hand.

02:54:03.000 It doesn't look anything like yours.

02:54:06.000 You shut the fuck up. 0.87

02:54:08.000 Boom! 0.99

02:54:09.000 Look at that right hand.

02:54:10.000 Dude, he's a sniper.

02:54:12.000 Ouch.

02:54:12.000 He's a fucking sniper.

02:54:14.000 Look at that right uppercut. 0.98

02:54:15.000 No one's ever beat Johnny Hendrix like that.

02:54:17.000 Dude, not like that.

02:54:17.000 Look at that right kick to the body on the way out.

02:54:19.000 Johnny's so fucking tough, though.

02:54:21.000 Look at this.

02:54:21.000 Boom!

02:54:22.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:54:23.000 To the arms.

02:54:24.000 Well, come on, man.

02:54:25.000 You gotta give it up.

02:54:26.000 He's a genius.

02:54:27.000 He's amazing.

02:54:28.000 I like Johnny, too.

02:54:29.000 He's amazing.

02:54:30.000 Hashtag Callen called it.

02:54:32.000 Of course I called it, dude.

02:54:35.000 I got my fucking barbell jeans on.

02:54:37.000 I will fight tonight.

02:54:39.000 Dude, you were a genius tonight.

02:54:41.000 You were right in every fight.

02:54:42.000 I was quiet in the beginning.

02:54:43.000 Every fight?

02:54:44.000 I was tired in the beginning.

02:54:45.000 He was wrong in every fight.

02:54:46.000 He was right every fight.

02:54:47.000 I know.

02:54:48.000 Dude, Carol was on fire tonight. 0.71

02:54:51.000 I thought you said he's a genius.

02:54:52.000 We only have five minutes left.

02:54:54.000 I'll tell you what, Wonderbar Thompson, he put everybody on notice.

02:54:57.000 How badly are these things timed?

02:54:59.000 It was a first round knockout.

02:55:00.000 Let's hear Johnny.

02:55:01.000 Johnny's a man.

02:55:02.000 Let me hear.

02:55:03.000 Turn this out.

02:55:04.000 Let's hear Johnny.

02:55:11.000 That's a man right there.

02:55:21.000 Yeah.

02:55:26.000 You know what, man?

02:55:29.000 That's fine, because that just shows his character.

02:55:31.000 Johnny's awesome.

02:55:32.000 He's been real.

02:55:33.000 He's a great guy.

02:55:34.000 Johnny Hendricks is a man, and he's awesome.

02:55:36.000 He's a man.

02:55:37.000 He's the best.

02:55:38.000 He's the nicest guy ever.

02:55:39.000 He had to fight a fucking monster who strikes, has been striking since he was three years old.

02:55:46.000 You know what he's fighting right now?

02:55:47.000 He's fighting a Wonderboy.

02:55:49.000 He's figured out how to stay standing.

02:55:50.000 He's figured out how to do it where he's gotten so comfortable with it they can get loose.

02:55:54.000 That was the dark day.

02:55:56.000 See, that's not the way to be dramatic.

02:55:57.000 You're forced to stay higher than everybody else.

02:56:00.000 This is how you be dramatic when you say this.

02:56:02.000 Watch this.

02:56:03.000 Hey dude, you know what he was fighting?

02:56:05.000 The future.

02:56:08.000 And that's all you gotta say, brother.

02:56:09.000 But no one's gonna give you that amount of time.

02:56:11.000 That's sort of a format.

02:56:12.000 Why, the pause?

02:56:13.000 The pause?

02:56:13.000 The four people, everyone drinking coffee and talking shit.

02:56:16.000 You don't have that time for that.

02:56:17.000 No, I can't pause.

02:56:18.000 I can't pause.

02:56:19.000 This is a wolf den, son.

02:56:21.000 See, I turned back.

02:56:22.000 I know.

02:56:23.000 Well, at the beginning, you guys were talking about fucking all these details, and these guys had never heard of it.

02:56:27.000 I was like, I can't find an opening.

02:56:29.000 I was trying to give you an opening for wine.

02:56:31.000 I was trying to give you props for your wine skills.

02:56:32.000 But I was kicking when you talked about that.

02:56:35.000 Oh, God.

02:56:36.000 I mean, you know, you can just sabotage me.

02:56:38.000 Brian's wine skills are off the charts.

02:56:39.000 Not bad, right?

02:56:40.000 You're not mad.

02:56:41.000 Oh, your wine skills are off the charts.

02:56:42.000 You know as much about wine as my business manager who's got a fucking wine cellar in his house.

02:56:47.000 I pay attention.

02:56:48.000 I'm obsessed.

02:56:48.000 He's one of those dudes.

02:56:49.000 Really?

02:56:50.000 I'll sit in a wine store and talk to the guy for hours.

02:56:54.000 My wife has just dragged me out. 1.00

02:56:56.000 I'll call my friend Matt.

02:56:57.000 I'll call him from, like, anywhere.

02:56:58.000 I'll be like, alright, dude.

02:57:00.000 I'm in some Cabernets right now.

02:57:01.000 Let me read you some shit.

02:57:02.000 This is expensive shit.

02:57:04.000 Is this any good?

02:57:04.000 Just tell me which is a good one.

02:57:06.000 He'll give me, that's a good one.

02:57:07.000 What year is it?

02:57:08.000 97?

02:57:08.000 95 is a better year, but 97 is not bad.

02:57:10.000 Cal is the go-to.

02:57:11.000 Dude from Tool has good wine?

02:57:13.000 Dude from Tool has good wine?

02:57:14.000 Who?

02:57:15.000 Dude from Tool.

02:57:16.000 Oh, fuck yeah.

02:57:16.000 The band Tool?

02:57:17.000 He's got good wine?

02:57:18.000 He definitely does.

02:57:19.000 Have you ever had Maynard's wine?

02:57:22.000 It's delicious.

02:57:22.000 No, I haven't.

02:57:23.000 Who's Maynard?

02:57:23.000 Maynard Keenan.

02:57:24.000 Purple Belt and Jiu Jitsu, by the way.

02:57:26.000 From Tool.

02:57:26.000 He was the one I was talking about before, when I was talking about my friend who injured his hip.

02:57:30.000 I just didn't want a name drop.

02:57:31.000 Oh, word.

02:57:31.000 He owns Caducey.

02:57:33.000 It's really good.

02:57:34.000 He does everything.

02:57:35.000 If he does anything...

02:57:36.000 He does it well.

02:57:37.000 He does it at a black belt level.

02:57:39.000 Yeah.

02:57:39.000 You know, I eat singer of Tool.

02:57:40.000 He makes...

02:57:41.000 Fucking fantastic.

02:57:42.000 Back on the mats.

02:57:43.000 Wow.

02:57:44.000 Drilling.

02:57:44.000 You know, he's my age.

02:57:45.000 Great music.

02:57:46.000 He's ridiculous.

02:57:47.000 He's a beast.

02:57:47.000 Wow.

02:57:48.000 Like an intellectual...

02:57:49.000 He's a no-bullshit kind of a guy.

02:57:52.000 Yeah.

02:57:52.000 And he called me up because I had that Primal guy on, Mark Sisson, and he got a lot of things right, but apparently when he was talking about wine, Maynard was like...

02:58:04.000 Stay in your lane, son.

02:58:05.000 Damn!

02:58:06.000 Yeah, he's like, we don't use 87 different chemicals.

02:58:08.000 He's like, we use some natural shit like yeast.

02:58:11.000 You know, maybe.

02:58:12.000 And, you know, maybe some tannins.

02:58:13.000 It's remarkably simple when you see how they make wine a lot of times.

02:58:16.000 Remarkably simple.

02:58:17.000 Jesus Christ, Wonderboy's good.

02:58:19.000 Good God.

02:58:19.000 He's a snake, man.

02:58:20.000 I've been saying this not to be a dick.

02:58:22.000 I've been saying this from...

02:58:24.000 Since 1986. No, you have.

02:58:27.000 I remember back in the day.

02:58:28.000 The way he moves, man.

02:58:29.000 In Vegas.

02:58:29.000 Dude, he just fucked up the number two welterweight in the world.

02:58:32.000 Eddie fucked him up in the first round.

02:58:34.000 Look at that fight.

02:58:36.000 He crushed him in the first round.

02:58:37.000 Look at that.

02:58:38.000 Dude, we might be looking at the champion right there.

02:58:40.000 We really might be looking at the champion.

02:58:40.000 Who's going to beat him?

02:58:41.000 I've been saying it.

02:58:42.000 I've been saying it.

02:58:43.000 I'll tell you what.

02:58:43.000 Robbie Law is goddamn ferocious.

02:58:44.000 That motherfucker knocked out Melvin Manhoff.

02:58:46.000 Robbie doesn't touch him.

02:58:47.000 It's a horrible matchup.

02:58:48.000 Horrible matchup for Robbie.

02:58:49.000 You might be right, but...

02:58:51.000 Johnny Hendricks was the worst matchup.

02:58:53.000 You might be right, but I believe there's a difference in the amount of danger that Robbie Lawler will put himself in versus the amount of danger that Johnny Hendricks will put himself in.

02:59:01.000 I'm just saying the amount of danger he'll put himself in trying to hit him.

02:59:06.000 Robbie Lawler will take some crazy-ass fucking chances and do some explosive, ridiculously aggressive shit.

02:59:12.000 Good luck with that.

02:59:13.000 Even as a champion.

02:59:14.000 He might not land it, but dude, he knocked Melvin Manhoof...

02:59:18.000 Dead.

02:59:18.000 It's crazy.

02:59:19.000 He's so indestructible.

02:59:20.000 It was a fight where Manhoof was teeing off on him.

02:59:22.000 He was treating him like a piñata.

02:59:24.000 Like a piñata.

02:59:25.000 Just kicking his leg.

02:59:26.000 His leg looked like it was on a string.

02:59:29.000 And then he just tucked his head and threw him right.

02:59:31.000 You gotta give Wonderboy the title shot.

02:59:33.000 Well, I believe so.

02:59:34.000 I believe so.

02:59:34.000 But I think that Tyron Woodley still has a real good argument that he deserves the title shot.

02:59:39.000 Even though he's not as impressive as this guy, because his last fight he won by injury.

02:59:43.000 You know, right?

02:59:44.000 Carlos Condit kicked, fucked up his knee.

02:59:46.000 So fucking good.

02:59:47.000 He was winning that fight, though.

02:59:49.000 He definitely won the first round.

02:59:50.000 That's a tough argument, especially as far as markability right now.

02:59:53.000 No, I'm just saying that he was supposed to be fighting Johnny Hendricks for the number one title shot.

02:59:56.000 Johnny Hendricks had to pull out because he didn't make weight, and essentially Tyron was promised a title shot.

03:00:01.000 I don't think it's a bad thing.

03:00:03.000 I don't think it's a bad thing if Wonderboy waits out and knocks somebody else off.

03:00:08.000 Because I'm telling you, a performance like this is like some superstar emerging shit.

03:00:14.000 Dude, he looked like a genius tonight.

03:00:17.000 A striking genius.

03:00:18.000 Look at that spinning back kick to the arm. 0.74

03:00:21.000 It's like getting hit by a fucking bat in your arms.

03:00:24.000 He's kicking him in the arms.

03:00:25.000 Johnny Hendrix is like, what the fuck?

03:00:27.000 It's like getting hit by a machine, right?

03:00:28.000 Oh my god.

03:00:29.000 A guy who kicks like him, everything he's doing is perfect.

03:00:32.000 This is like an example.

03:00:34.000 This is a direct example of what we were talking about when we were going over the technique of the kick.

03:00:38.000 He throws everything.

03:00:39.000 He slides into it.

03:00:40.000 He turns his hip over.

03:00:41.000 He turns his hip over and he throws punches.

03:00:44.000 He's laser beam accurate, man.

03:00:47.000 And sees what you're doing before you do it, right?

03:00:50.000 Yes.

03:00:50.000 See, oh, you're going to throw a right, and let me just move a little bit back, ba-bang!

03:00:54.000 Dude, the way he landed that right kick to the body, that right kick to the body in that exchange before, it was extraordinary because he knows he's on the way out, but he also knows where Hendrick's left arm is, and he sneaks that right kick right under it as he's sliding backwards, which very few people are going to be able to do.

03:01:10.000 Crazy.

03:01:11.000 I gotta take my fighting more seriously.

03:01:13.000 No matter what you do in martial arts, like I said before, we all have a certain amount of time to drill.

03:01:18.000 So whatever the kung fu, the karate guys, whatever they were doing during the dark ages when we thought it didn't work, whatever they were doing, they were getting really good at it at that range and getting fucking the best at that range.

03:01:33.000 Maybe they can get taken down easily.

03:01:36.000 Maybe they don't know any jujitsu.

03:01:38.000 But now we've gotten to the point where they spent all that time in that range and now they added and supplemented wrestling so they can stay in that range.

03:01:46.000 The range that they rule.

03:01:48.000 The range that they spent all their time in.

03:01:50.000 The range that nobody else spent that much time in that range.

03:01:53.000 But they got the wrestling and the surrounding. 0.79

03:01:55.000 They can stay in that range that they rule in during the dark ages when everyone thought that didn't work.

03:02:01.000 But hey, guess what?

03:02:02.000 Now it fucking works because I got all that shit to supplement.

03:02:05.000 I love Eddie.

03:02:06.000 And you're fucked up! 0.86

03:02:07.000 That's what we just talked to!

03:02:09.000 We just talked karate, kung fu, taekwondo!

03:02:11.000 When Eddie talks, he talks like a conspiracy.

03:02:13.000 He's like, dude...

03:02:13.000 We have to end this podcast on that, because we're literally out of time.

03:02:16.000 We're at the three-hour mark.

03:02:18.000 We're at the three-hour mark.

03:02:19.000 Did we go over yet?

03:02:20.000 Yeah, we slightly went over three hours, so most of this is gone.

03:02:24.000 Good night, everybody.

03:02:25.000 Good night.

03:02:25.000 Big kiss.

03:02:26.000 Eddie, you were great to ramble.

03:02:28.000 No, you were great, because you were like, no, because when it gets dark...

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