The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE Fight Companion

00:00:04.000 It's not a good sign that the fights are still going on for the prelims.

00:00:08.000 That must mean there's a lot of decisions.

00:00:10.000 A lot of prelims.

00:00:11.000 A lot of prelims, but also a lot of decisions.

00:00:13.000 Like, usually they time it out better, because it's like 3-0-4 now, and this is 1-37 to go in the third round of Jai Herbert.

00:00:20.000 Not ideal.

00:00:22.000 No, but, you know...

00:00:23.000 Shit happens.

00:00:24.000 At least they're not doing it at 5 o'clock in the morning.

00:00:27.000 True. That was fucking ridiculous.

00:00:30.000 If I was Leon, I'd be pissed.

00:00:31.000 What time was it in the UK when they said this?

00:00:33.000 It's normal time.

00:00:35.000 It's 7 hours ahead.

00:00:36.000 Yeah, so it's nighttime there.

00:00:37.000 So it's like 10 p.m. right now.

00:00:39.000 It's normal.

00:00:40.000 Are they 6 hours ahead or 7 hours ahead?

00:00:42.000 I thought it was 7. Something like that.

00:00:44.000 But either way, it's nighttime there.

00:00:48.000 Have you seen any of these guys?

00:00:49.000 Yeah, Jai Herbert's the guy that head-kicked Ilya Teporia.

00:00:53.000 He dropped him.

00:00:53.000 Knocked him out?

00:00:54.000 No, he dropped him out.

00:00:55.000 A vicious head kick, and then Ilya fucking starched him in the next round.

00:00:58.000 He has great striking.

00:00:59.000 Yeah, very, very good kicks.

00:01:02.000 Big prospect.

00:01:02.000 Real tall, long, lanky dude.

00:01:05.000 But, you know, Ilya, that guy, he connects on anybody.

00:01:07.000 They're going night-night.

00:01:08.000 Oh, Joe, if you knew, I know you can't probably talk about it, but do you see Ilya's tweet where he's like, I'm going to have big news.

00:01:14.000 You guys aren't expecting it.

00:01:15.000 Yeah, I don't know the news.

00:01:17.000 You have no clue?

00:01:17.000 No, I don't know.

00:01:18.000 If I had a guess, he's probably fighting a top contender at 55. But that wouldn't be unexpected.

00:01:24.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:01:24.000 He's like, you won't see this coming.

00:01:25.000 So, it's not Makashev, because we all assume that.

00:01:28.000 Makashev's not fighting.

00:01:29.000 Makashev's going up to 70. Ilya's walking around at 186.

00:01:34.000 He's big, man.

00:01:35.000 Connor? That's crazy.

00:01:37.000 Connor would have to be in the testing pool for a long time.

00:01:40.000 He's not in the testing pool.

00:01:41.000 Isn't he doing bare knuckle?

00:01:42.000 Connor? Well, he's running bare knuckle.

00:01:45.000 He's like one of the owners.

00:01:46.000 Oh, he's not going to fight.

00:01:47.000 He may.

00:01:48.000 He might.

00:01:48.000 Get out of the fucking marching powder.

00:01:52.000 And I'm the fucking dude.

00:01:54.000 He's also running for president.

00:01:55.000 I might fucking fight Bare Knuckle.

00:01:56.000 He might.

00:01:57.000 He might.

00:01:58.000 I mean, I could see him doing it.

00:01:59.000 That would blow Bare Knuckle right through the stratosphere.

00:02:02.000 I mean, they'd have to pay him.

00:02:04.000 They'd have to pay him.

00:02:05.000 Him versus Jeremy Stevens?

00:02:07.000 Oh my goodness.

00:02:08.000 Jeremy would have to win a couple more times, but Jeremy's back in the UFC.

00:02:11.000 No, Jeremy's undefeated in Bare Knuckle.

00:02:12.000 El Matador has been my...

00:02:14.000 Oh, he changes his nickname.

00:02:15.000 He's got a new identity.

00:02:16.000 When we announce it, you won't believe it, get ready.

00:02:19.000 See, when you say you won't believe it, you gotta come with some shit now.

00:02:21.000 Yeah, he got it, but that was a while ago.

00:02:23.000 That's March 6th.

00:02:24.000 You know, what is today?

00:02:25.000 It's 22nd.

00:02:26.000 But that's the UFC being like, don't announce it yet.

00:02:28.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:02:29.000 You know, I don't know.

00:02:31.000 Like, if I...

00:02:32.000 A perfect matchup is Gaethje.

00:02:35.000 I think Charles Oliveira.

00:02:36.000 Oh, that's a...

00:02:37.000 That's a great...

00:02:38.000 That's a great matchup.

00:02:39.000 That's a great matchup.

00:02:40.000 And now remember, he tweeted that before Gaethje's fight.

00:02:43.000 I don't think it's Gaethje.

00:02:45.000 Oh, right.

00:02:46.000 Oh, man.

00:02:47.000 That's a nasty cut.

00:02:47.000 Horrible place, too.

00:02:48.000 Oh, boy.

00:02:49.000 But this is the last round.

00:02:50.000 I think the fight's over.

00:02:51.000 It might be over, yeah.

00:02:52.000 Oh, there you go.

00:02:55.000 Dustin Poirier.

00:02:57.000 No, Dustin's fighting Max.

00:02:59.000 He is?

00:03:00.000 I think so, for the BMF shit.

00:03:01.000 Really? I think.

00:03:03.000 Double-check that, too.

00:03:03.000 That's a great fight, too.

00:03:04.000 I'm crazy.

00:03:05.000 The third go-around.

00:03:07.000 At 55, and it's Max proper.

00:03:09.000 I think Max should...

00:03:12.000 I didn't like him going back to 45. I think it's too much of a struggle.

00:03:15.000 He got pretty big when he got up to fight Gaethje.

00:03:17.000 He put the weight on right.

00:03:18.000 He looked fantastic.

00:03:19.000 He looked fantastic.

00:03:20.000 We all remember the knocking of Gaethje in the last seconds there, but he was molly whopping him before that.

00:03:25.000 Yeah, he was beating his ass.

00:03:26.000 And it all started off with that jump-spinning back kick to the face in the first round.

00:03:29.000 Fucked up Gaethje's already fixed nose.

00:03:31.000 So that Max Holloway, the true Max Holloway at 55 versus fucking Dustin for Dustin's last fight?

00:03:37.000 In New Orleans?

00:03:38.000 Sure. Take my money.

00:03:39.000 The thing is, you gotta wonder, like, how much did that Ilya Teporia knockout take out of Max?

00:03:43.000 True. Because that was a beating.

00:03:45.000 True. Ilya's just so fucking dangerous.

00:03:48.000 He's so technical.

00:03:49.000 Like, his striking, the way he's, like, bobbing in and moving, he's so comfortable with his head movement.

00:03:53.000 You see, he's, like, a step ahead of everybody.

00:03:56.000 He's good at everything.

00:03:57.000 And then people are like, oh, he's too small for 55. I'm like, he's actually, that narrative don't work.

00:04:01.000 He's a big fucking boy.

00:04:03.000 Well, I think the 45-pound cut is...

00:04:06.000 Look, man, they should all stop cutting weight.

00:04:07.000 That's the reality.

00:04:09.000 Cutting weight is bullshit.

00:04:10.000 It's terrible for you.

00:04:11.000 They need more weight classes, and they need to stop cutting weight.

00:04:14.000 They need to figure out a way to check hydration levels and put people in a weight class.

00:04:19.000 Do they still do that in one?

00:04:21.000 Who knows?

00:04:23.000 One's backed off MMA.

00:04:25.000 They have a big Muay Thai fight tonight.

00:04:27.000 They backed off MMA, really?

00:04:28.000 Yeah, they're really focused on kickboxing Muay Thai.

00:04:30.000 I think in Asia, that gets a lot of numbers.

00:04:33.000 Big time.

00:04:34.000 And they put on fucking shows, man.

00:04:36.000 Yeah, there's a huge one tonight.

00:04:38.000 Kickboxing and Muay Thai fights.

00:04:40.000 I think the UFC fucked up when they went with slap fighting.

00:04:44.000 I've been telling them forever, you guys should get into kickboxing.

00:04:47.000 If you only like stand-up fights, it's not like the old days of kickboxing where they're boring, like PKA, karate.

00:04:54.000 There's characters, man.

00:04:55.000 And the knockouts are fucking crazy.

00:04:58.000 Also, all your champs are coming from kickboxing.

00:05:00.000 Yeah. Alex, Izzy, like you're some monsters.

00:05:03.000 Kickboxing with MMA gloves in a cage would be giant in the UFC.

00:05:07.000 Just have a striking-only segment of the UFC.

00:05:11.000 And Glory's coming back.

00:05:12.000 Glory's doing a heavyweight competition soon.

00:05:14.000 Glory's got some elite fighters, man.

00:05:16.000 I watch Glory all the time.

00:05:17.000 It's fucking exciting, but nobody's watching it.

00:05:20.000 Nobody knows who these people are.

00:05:21.000 You just gotta educate the crowd.

00:05:22.000 Put the same amount of resources you did in the slap fight into kickboxing and we're cooking.

00:05:28.000 Because they're doing it with jiu-jitsu.

00:05:31.000 Right. They put how many millions of dollars in jiu-jitsu and they even have more of a budget for it?

00:05:37.000 A lot of it's Eddie.

00:05:38.000 You know, they put a lot of it in jiu-jitsu.

00:05:40.000 Yeah. A lot of it is not mine.

00:05:43.000 Yeah, it is.

00:05:44.000 No, I'm saying as far as making it popular.

00:05:44.000 I wish it was.

00:05:47.000 Like EFI, all that shit.

00:05:50.000 I know we're boys, but you were really the one to navigate all that.

00:05:54.000 That was huge.

00:05:54.000 With Fight Pass?

00:05:55.000 Yeah, it was a big deal.

00:05:56.000 Having the UFC get involved heavily in jiu-jitsu is huge.

00:05:59.000 Are you still doing stuff with them?

00:06:01.000 Yeah, I have a great relationship with them.

00:06:03.000 I think they're trying to put together some kind of tough show now.

00:06:07.000 Like an Ultimate Fighter show for grappling.

00:06:10.000 Which would be cool because then you can build a star from scratch.

00:06:14.000 And get to know the guys.

00:06:15.000 Exactly, yeah.

00:06:16.000 You can get people emotionally involved.

00:06:18.000 Because they exclusively signed Mikey Mushameshi, right?

00:06:21.000 Yeah. Boy, it's hard to get people to watch those reality shows these days.

00:06:24.000 I think people kind of burned out on reality shows.

00:06:26.000 You know, DC and Chael are shooting one right now.

00:06:29.000 They're shooting The Ultimate Fighter.

00:06:30.000 They've got to give up on that, bro.

00:06:31.000 And when you watch that?

00:06:33.000 I don't know where you watch it.

00:06:35.000 It's on ESPN Plus, I think.

00:06:37.000 Is it?

00:06:37.000 I haven't watched it in forever.

00:06:39.000 I watch the finals.

00:06:39.000 No one does.

00:06:40.000 I watch the finals to see how good the guys are who win.

00:06:43.000 You know, and see where they're at.

00:06:45.000 I watched Dana White's Contender Series probably more.

00:06:47.000 That's the best thing in combat sports.

00:06:49.000 As far as talent, it's the best.

00:06:52.000 Because they're super hyped.

00:06:53.000 They have insane motivation.

00:06:55.000 They have this unbelievable opportunity.

00:06:57.000 If they do that, they get skyrocketed into the UFC.

00:07:00.000 And it's not like Ultimate Fighter, where you can win based off grappling and just hold guys down.

00:07:04.000 They become champion of the UFC contract.

00:07:06.000 Dana White Contender Series, there's dudes who win, and he's like, nah, not excited enough.

00:07:10.000 So dudes go for broke.

00:07:13.000 Sugar Sean came from there.

00:07:14.000 I mean, there's so many champs.

00:07:16.000 A lot of people came from there.

00:07:17.000 Is it illegal to have a finish bonus in the UFC?

00:07:21.000 Like, you get paid whatever, $80,000 to show, $80,000 to win, and then another $80,000 if you finish the fight.

00:07:30.000 Is that illegal?

00:07:31.000 No, definitely not illegal.

00:07:33.000 They do it now with performance bonuses.

00:07:36.000 Yeah, it would help a little bit.

00:07:39.000 Go gangster and go, you know, you have show money, and then you get extra money, like, you know, double, but you have to knock them out or submit them.

00:07:46.000 See, otherwise you just get your show money.

00:07:48.000 UFL does that.

00:07:49.000 I don't know if anyone wants to say it.

00:07:50.000 UFL does that.

00:07:51.000 Yeah. Okay, I think that's a good idea.

00:07:51.000 Oh, really?

00:07:53.000 What's UFL now?

00:07:54.000 What do you mean?

00:07:55.000 PFL? No, UFL.

00:07:56.000 What's UFL?

00:07:58.000 UFL is where, like, Tony Ferguson and Dale Dennis is fighting.

00:08:00.000 Oh, I thought that was GFL.

00:08:03.000 Yeah, GFL.

00:08:04.000 Oh, okay.

00:08:04.000 Yeah, GFL, sorry.

00:08:05.000 Yeah, there's PFL, there's GFL, UFL something else.

00:08:08.000 Bro, we were talking about the one fight that I'm interested in.

00:08:11.000 Yo, Romero.

00:08:12.000 And Musasi.

00:08:12.000 That's a great fight.

00:08:13.000 That's a great fight.

00:08:14.000 That's one fight that GFL's putting together.

00:08:16.000 I'm like, ooh, I'll watch that.

00:08:18.000 Are they both over 40?

00:08:19.000 They're 100 years old.

00:08:20.000 Yeah, they're both 100.

00:08:21.000 Yoel's 79 years old, dude.

00:08:24.000 I don't care.

00:08:25.000 He looked fucking amazing.

00:08:26.000 Well, he's fighting in bare knuckle.

00:08:28.000 Yeah. Too.

00:08:29.000 I saw some promo with some giant dude he's fighting.

00:08:32.000 Did you see him box that slap fight guy?

00:08:34.000 Bro, that slap fight guy.

00:08:35.000 When he jumped up in the air, I was like, oh, I fucked up.

00:08:37.000 I fucked up.

00:08:38.000 Yoel just fucking jumped up in the air for no reason.

00:08:41.000 Like an alien.

00:08:42.000 Right before he decided to beat his ass, he just jumped straight up in the air.

00:08:45.000 Just some sloppy white guy.

00:08:47.000 You see him go, oh, fuck.

00:08:52.000 If the UFC does kickboxing, they might as well just come out with a bang and go bare-knuckle kickboxing.

00:08:57.000 It's not a bad idea.

00:08:58.000 Take my money.

00:08:59.000 And that'll get people to check it out.

00:09:02.000 Crazy. Would you do it separate from UFC events, or would you do it like one, where you have MMA fights and kickboxing events on the same card?

00:09:10.000 I think you could do whatever you wanted, but you definitely could have a stand-up-only show, and it would be huge.

00:09:15.000 Where they break them up if they clinch against the cage.

00:09:18.000 You don't allow them to clinch.

00:09:19.000 Do it just like kickboxing does.

00:09:20.000 Separate them.

00:09:22.000 You know, like, there's no ground fighting at all.

00:09:23.000 I think that's going backwards, to tell you the truth.

00:09:25.000 Really? We had kickboxing.

00:09:28.000 We already had it.

00:09:28.000 No one watched it.

00:09:30.000 But when the UFC came out, all of a sudden people were into martial arts again.

00:09:35.000 And if we go, that's going backwards.

00:09:37.000 I see what you're saying, but look, the UFC does grappling events, right?

00:09:41.000 The grappling events are pure grappling.

00:09:42.000 Why not do pure striking events, too?

00:09:45.000 MMA is always the best.

00:09:46.000 Well, it was...

00:09:48.000 When the UFC blew up, it was UFC 2, correct?

00:09:51.000 Yeah. Nobody watched UFC 1. They didn't know if it was real.

00:09:53.000 There was no B-roll.

00:09:54.000 Right. Everyone watched UFC 2. And did they get blown away and get hooked by it because of the striking or because of the jujitsu?

00:10:04.000 Well, it was because it was hoist.

00:10:06.000 It was the jiu-jitsu.

00:10:07.000 Because people didn't realize that you could fight on the ground.

00:10:10.000 I thought fighting on the ground was for pussies.

00:10:11.000 But then it went mainstream for a tough one with stand-up with Stefan and Forrest.

00:10:16.000 But listen, let's imagine that Ankolaev and Pereira fight an only kickboxing fight.

00:10:24.000 Are you telling me that's going to be boring?

00:10:25.000 That would be fucking insane.

00:10:27.000 Kickboxing with little gloves.

00:10:29.000 With MMA gloves.

00:10:30.000 If they're going to do it, I'd go bare knuckle if it was up to me.

00:10:33.000 The thing about bare knuckle though is your face gets obliterated.

00:10:36.000 The slices and cuts.

00:10:38.000 People want to see the blood.

00:10:40.000 The hands break.

00:10:41.000 People want to see that shit.

00:10:42.000 I commentate for Game Bread where it's bare knuckle MMA and seeing JDS and Alan Belcher and Roy, they don't punch the same.

00:10:52.000 They're a little cautious because they don't want to break their hand.

00:10:54.000 It's more realistic.

00:10:55.000 It's more realistic.

00:10:57.000 It is.

00:10:57.000 It's just a different product.

00:10:59.000 It starts in an hour.

00:10:59.000 What happened?

00:11:01.000 Well, wait a minute.

00:11:02.000 It's not Hylton.

00:11:03.000 Oh, this is the bare knuckle one?

00:11:05.000 That's the dirty boxing show.

00:11:06.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:11:07.000 That's our boy, Mike Parrish.

00:11:09.000 Is this bare knuckle, dirty boxing?

00:11:11.000 It's bare knuckle.

00:11:12.000 And this Hilton is tall with a giant jaw.

00:11:16.000 This starts in an hour?

00:11:17.000 Yeah, our Lofsky fights.

00:11:18.000 Fucking throw that bitch on.

00:11:20.000 Pick him up.

00:11:21.000 Let's go.

00:11:23.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:11:24.000 Arlovsky, man.

00:11:25.000 Who takes a licking and keeps on ticking better than Andre Arlovsky?

00:11:25.000 Is that dumb and dumber?

00:11:28.000 Tell me about it.

00:11:29.000 That dude's still around.

00:11:30.000 He was the UFC champion in 2005, son.

00:11:34.000 2005. That's 20 fucking years ago of hardcore combat sports in MMA.

00:11:34.000 Wow, dude.

00:11:40.000 That is nuts.

00:11:41.000 Dude, remember how hard it was for the UFC even to cut him?

00:11:44.000 Because they kept giving him these young lines and he kept beating them.

00:11:46.000 Yeah, he beats a lot of guys, man.

00:11:47.000 They kept, we're like, dude, just get out of here.

00:11:48.000 He's like, nah, man.

00:11:49.000 He's such a veteran.

00:11:50.000 He's such a veteran.

00:11:51.000 He's so savvy.

00:11:52.000 He sees everything coming.

00:11:53.000 Oh, yeah, man.

00:11:54.000 He's been there, done that forever.

00:11:57.000 Jan Bohovic.

00:11:58.000 So you were saying that Bohovic got both of his shoulders reconstructed?

00:12:00.000 Both of them.

00:12:01.000 Been out two years.

00:12:03.000 One shoulder's bad enough.

00:12:04.000 But what's impressive about him is he was fighting with bad shoulders when he beat all these boys.

00:12:09.000 Really? Yeah.

00:12:10.000 I mean, how bad were they?

00:12:11.000 Shoulders are tough.

00:12:12.000 Shoulders are tough.

00:12:13.000 Yeah. Like the worst injury.

00:12:15.000 It's a bad injury because it's such a complicated joint.

00:12:18.000 Full-blown surgery.

00:12:19.000 How's it now?

00:12:21.000 It's good now.

00:12:22.000 Step cells?

00:12:23.000 How's your back, your lower back?

00:12:24.000 My lower back's good, man.

00:12:26.000 I got into that Joe hip and steel stretching.

00:12:28.000 Remember I told you about that?

00:12:29.000 That's huge.

00:12:30.000 I do that every day.

00:12:31.000 That changed everything for you?

00:12:32.000 It makes it so that I don't need surgery because I'm supposed to go back for more back surgery.

00:12:37.000 Really? I was supposed to do that two years ago.

00:12:39.000 For another disc?

00:12:40.000 Yeah, another one.

00:12:43.000 Delaying that as long as possible and, you know, doing these stretches, man, it takes about an hour and a half to do these stretches every day, but it makes it manageable where I could, you know, tie my shoelaces without pain, you know?

00:12:55.000 Yeah. Lower backs are a motherfucker, man.

00:12:58.000 Yeah, so whatever you can do to avoid surgery, man.

00:13:01.000 It's amazing.

00:13:02.000 Look at the yawn.

00:13:02.000 There's enough shit out there.

00:13:03.000 First shoulder operated on.

00:13:04.000 Unfortunately, there's too much work to do with one so they can fix both at once and another surgery soon.

00:13:08.000 So what year?

00:13:09.000 When is this, Jamie?

00:13:10.000 Two years ago.

00:13:11.000 Wow. I haven't fought in two years.

00:13:11.000 It's two years ago.

00:13:13.000 That's crazy.

00:13:15.000 And, you know, no peptides, no nothing, because everybody is in this, you know, goofy world where you're not allowed to take stuff like BPC-157.

00:13:25.000 So stupid.

00:13:25.000 That's illegal?

00:13:26.000 Yeah. Especially after surgery.

00:13:28.000 Last three months, two months, I started losing my power, my strength.

00:13:31.000 40% goes.

00:13:32.000 I tried to do something with physiotherapy and doctors to try to fix it, but every training was worse.

00:13:37.000 Yeah. Now, remember, too, he's also 42 years old.

00:13:40.000 Uh-huh.

00:13:41.000 Yeah. Yeah, that's old.

00:13:43.000 You know, it's less old for the bigger guys, but it's still old.

00:13:47.000 42 is for, I mean, I'm 42. Two shoulders at 42 are hard things to come back from.

00:13:53.000 And Carlos Olberg's a motherfucker.

00:13:55.000 He's so fast and tall.

00:13:58.000 He's so long.

00:13:59.000 It's such good matchmaking, Carlos Olberg.

00:14:02.000 Even though they think, you know, prospect, I think he's 34, 35. But he hasn't really beat anybody of note.

00:14:09.000 And then there's also...

00:14:11.000 But he hasn't really beat any of the top guys to get to this, so him versus Jan's fun.

00:14:15.000 And there's also his first fight.

00:14:17.000 Like, his first fight with Kennedy.

00:14:19.000 Kennedy and Zichikou.

00:14:20.000 Yeah. Who beat him down.

00:14:21.000 Like, he was beating Kennedy up, and then he gassed out, and Kennedy fucked him up.

00:14:25.000 Yeah. Like, that's a big fight, because he kind of folded down the stretch.

00:14:30.000 Over-amped in the beginning of the fight.

00:14:32.000 Burned off too much fuel.

00:14:33.000 Just experience.

00:14:34.000 Experience. It's like Sean Brady in the main event.

00:14:36.000 When they gave him Bilal, he just wasn't ready.

00:14:39.000 And then loses that and then goes on a tear.

00:14:41.000 And now he's ready.

00:14:43.000 Now he's ready.

00:14:44.000 Sometimes it takes that.

00:14:45.000 He had mental coaching and shit too, which I think is important.

00:14:48.000 How are your shoulders?

00:14:49.000 Good. And yours?

00:14:51.000 Good shoulders.

00:14:51.000 Good shoulders?

00:14:52.000 I tore my bicep like a month ago, probably.

00:14:56.000 But I'm on all sorts of shit.

00:14:58.000 It looks weird.

00:14:59.000 You can see it.

00:15:00.000 Did you get it fixed or no?

00:15:01.000 Nah, man.

00:15:02.000 You don't have to get it fixed?

00:15:03.000 Is it small tear?

00:15:04.000 Yeah, it's small tear.

00:15:05.000 Oh, okay.

00:15:05.000 I've just been injecting fucking peptide.

00:15:08.000 Name something.

00:15:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:15:09.000 Just fucking.

00:15:10.000 Dude, fucking.

00:15:11.000 Bro, BPC-157 with the TB-500 is amazing.

00:15:15.000 The best.

00:15:16.000 Amazing. I started taking blue scorpion venom shit.

00:15:19.000 What? Yeah, some scorpion venom.

00:15:21.000 What are you doing?

00:15:22.000 Name something.

00:15:24.000 Anything someone offers me, I'm like, I'll try it out.

00:15:26.000 The brand name is Venom or actual Venom?

00:15:28.000 It's Blue Venom.

00:15:29.000 They take Venom and then from peptides with it.

00:15:33.000 What? From a fucking scorpion.

00:15:35.000 What? What does that do for you?

00:15:37.000 Apparently it helps with healing.

00:15:39.000 They say bee stings cures arthritis.

00:15:41.000 Sure. When people get bee stings, they have serious arthritis.

00:15:46.000 They get stung all over their fucking hands and it helps them.

00:15:48.000 Blue Scorpion Venom.

00:15:50.000 What the hell, dude?

00:15:51.000 Yeah, they milk scorpions, Doug.

00:15:53.000 It reminds me of a shark cartilage.

00:15:55.000 Dude, I couldn't lift three weeks ago.

00:15:57.000 I fucking...

00:15:57.000 Who knows?

00:15:58.000 The scorpion did it for you?

00:15:59.000 I don't know.

00:16:01.000 That's the thing.

00:16:02.000 I take so much shit, I don't know.

00:16:04.000 Something's working.

00:16:05.000 Something's working, dude.

00:16:07.000 I got back on the bench last week and was, no problems.

00:16:10.000 What is the scorpion stuff supposed to do?

00:16:12.000 It helps with healing.

00:16:14.000 There's all sorts of fucking history on it.

00:16:16.000 Really? Yeah, dude.

00:16:17.000 Do you inject it or are you taking it?

00:16:19.000 No, it's a serum.

00:16:20.000 Oh, because you put it on the muscle?

00:16:22.000 You put it under your tongue?

00:16:23.000 Yeah, you put it under your tongue.

00:16:25.000 Every morning, every night.

00:16:26.000 And I'm like, how much does it take?

00:16:28.000 I'll take double.

00:16:30.000 Is there a side effect to it?

00:16:32.000 Yeah, being awesome, feeling healthy.

00:16:36.000 Does it make you feel great?

00:16:37.000 Oh, yeah, I feel great.

00:16:38.000 Wow, but you're doing a lot of stuff.

00:16:40.000 That's the thing, I don't know.

00:16:41.000 I don't know.

00:16:42.000 And then I stumbled upon, was it methanol blue?

00:16:45.000 Yeah. Do you take methanol blue?

00:16:47.000 Is that legit?

00:16:47.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:48.000 I keep seeing stuff about it.

00:16:50.000 That's not how you say it.

00:16:50.000 What is the actual name?

00:16:51.000 Methylene? Methylene.

00:16:53.000 Methylene. Methylene.

00:16:54.000 It's on me all the time.

00:16:56.000 Do you want some, Gordon?

00:16:58.000 What is it?

00:16:58.000 Yeah, I take it.

00:17:00.000 It's like a, what did we say, a nootropic?

00:17:02.000 Like energy?

00:17:03.000 Well, it's basically an MAO inhibitor.

00:17:06.000 And it also has something that does something for your mitochondria.

00:17:10.000 I'm not the guy to describe it, but Gary Brecca told me to take it, and quite a few other people told me to take it.

00:17:15.000 Yeah, I just stumbled, because I take creatine for neurological reasons and for muscle recovery.

00:17:21.000 Yeah. And then I'm taking so many nootropics, I feel like I leveled out, and then someone recommended this, this methyl blue.

00:17:29.000 Methylene. Methylene blue.

00:17:31.000 Yeah, and that took you to another level?

00:17:32.000 Bro. Let's go.

00:17:33.000 Three or four times a day.

00:17:35.000 Let's go.

00:17:36.000 Three or four times a day?

00:17:37.000 I think you're not supposed to do it.

00:17:38.000 One a day.

00:17:39.000 Bro. What are we doing here?

00:17:41.000 I have too much shit to get done, Doug.

00:17:45.000 Yeah, this one's great from Diesel Subs.

00:17:47.000 You're like a test rat.

00:17:48.000 Yeah. Yeah.

00:17:51.000 I think so.

00:17:51.000 When they go, does it work?

00:17:52.000 Probably. Yeah.

00:17:54.000 One of them's going to work.

00:17:54.000 Something's working.

00:17:55.000 The full combo's working.

00:17:56.000 One of them's going to work.

00:17:57.000 Now, with the UFC being involved in grappling, they're not thinking about drug testing anybody, are they?

00:18:02.000 I don't think so.

00:18:04.000 As far as I know, no.

00:18:06.000 Because none of the organizations test.

00:18:08.000 Right. So it's like, unless you're going to sign, which is starting to happen now because there's a little bit more money.

00:18:13.000 IBJJF. Tests?

00:18:14.000 Yeah, but that's it.

00:18:15.000 Yeah, okay.

00:18:16.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:18:18.000 You know, they're starting to sign people exclusive now because there's a little bit more money.

00:18:21.000 Yeah. But unless you're going to test across, unless every organization is going to test, and it doesn't make sense.

00:18:27.000 Because then you have guys who are tested in the UFC who are fighting on flow or at one or other events who are fighting guys who are juiced anyway.

00:18:34.000 Right. So the whole reason to have testing is to have guys who are...

00:18:37.000 Not on steroids, compete against one another.

00:18:39.000 Right, but if they came up with an organization that came up with the most money and said, but here's the rules, we're going to go USADA.

00:18:45.000 Yeah, that would work, but the problem is that you need a business model where you can make that amount of money back.

00:18:51.000 Right. Just to pay for testing.

00:18:54.000 Most of the guys that are competing on the undercard, or not even the main event guys, you would actually be losing money testing them regularly.

00:19:03.000 Dolls down the sport.

00:19:04.000 But also, when the UFC signs, say, Mikey Mushameshi, is it exclusive?

00:19:10.000 Can he not compete anywhere else?

00:19:12.000 So usually when they do exclusive, I don't know what his contract is, obviously, but usually it's exclusive, but they have cutouts for things like ADCC or big world championships.

00:19:21.000 Otherwise, it's hard to sign the guys completely exclusive.

00:19:23.000 That's what I was going to say.

00:19:24.000 You'd have to pay him a salary.

00:19:25.000 Like, for example, if UFC signed Mikey exclusive...

00:19:29.000 And then he wanted to do ADCC, but it's on Flow.

00:19:33.000 Like, a lot of times the guys have cutouts for that, like big World Championship tournaments.

00:19:37.000 That's cool.

00:19:37.000 Because it helps everybody.

00:19:38.000 Yeah, that's cool.

00:19:38.000 Just builds a brand.

00:19:39.000 You want to be stuck there if you're not getting enough competition.

00:19:41.000 But, like, a guy exclusives to Flow or to UFC wouldn't be able to compete for, like, Flow Grappling or One normally.

00:19:48.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

00:19:49.000 Yeah. So is One still doing a lot of grappling?

00:19:52.000 I know they've got the Rotolos.

00:19:54.000 And Mikey's gone.

00:19:55.000 I think Cade's doing MMA now.

00:19:57.000 Yeah, he's 2-0.

00:19:58.000 He looks like a demon out there.

00:20:00.000 He looks like a savage.

00:20:02.000 Grappling is so much better than everybody else's.

00:20:03.000 He's fucking people up striking.

00:20:05.000 Right, right.

00:20:07.000 It's like having a guy like that that's that elite with grappling and also young enough to learn striking and just wild.

00:20:14.000 Wild, aggressive dudes.

00:20:16.000 Great work ethic.

00:20:17.000 They gave him a tough matchup to a second fight in one championship.

00:20:20.000 Like a tough fucking wrestler.

00:20:21.000 He fucking annihilated this dude.

00:20:24.000 Is Gary Tonin still in one?

00:20:26.000 Yeah. His contract ended.

00:20:29.000 He was doing some negotiations, but as far as I know, I think he's going back to one, but I'm not 100% sure.

00:20:36.000 Jamie, can you bring up one championship has a big Muay Thai fight, like huge Muay Thai fight, like one of the biggest ever.

00:20:44.000 I sent my boy to it.

00:20:45.000 For everybody watching at home, first fight is right about to start, and we are...

00:20:53.000 Mark Goddard is waiting to kick it off.

00:20:56.000 He's moving to the center of the octagon now.

00:20:59.000 And it goes.

00:21:00.000 And the time is 4.57, 4.56, 4.55, 4.54, 4.53.

00:21:06.000 We're off.

00:21:08.000 How do you say that dude's name?

00:21:10.000 Shareri? Shareri?

00:21:12.000 Shareri? Shareri.

00:21:17.000 This is in London?

00:21:19.000 Yes, sir.

00:21:20.000 Let's go.

00:21:21.000 Tell me a little bit about these guys.

00:21:23.000 I don't know much.

00:21:24.000 I didn't study this.

00:21:25.000 He's 12-3.

00:21:26.000 Brendan? I wish...

00:21:28.000 You don't know?

00:21:29.000 Oh, my God.

00:21:30.000 No, I know some guys.

00:21:31.000 No, I got some things.

00:21:32.000 Who has he fought?

00:21:32.000 Eight first-round finishes.

00:21:35.000 That's really good.

00:21:38.000 Man, Brendan got stomped.

00:21:39.000 Yeah, he gets crispy after this.

00:21:41.000 But what I was going to say is I wish we were seeing Jon Jones Aspinall in London.

00:21:45.000 Yeah. That's what they should be seeing.

00:21:47.000 But I think John's going to hold out as long as he can to make the most money.

00:21:50.000 Which you can't be mad at, but also, you know Tom Aspinall?

00:21:53.000 I think soon he'll be the interim champ for the longest ever over 500 days?

00:21:58.000 That's not good.

00:21:59.000 No, that's kind of crazy.

00:22:00.000 500 days is kind of crazy.

00:22:01.000 500 days is wild.

00:22:02.000 It's kind of crazy.

00:22:03.000 And John said he wants six months to train.

00:22:06.000 That's just negotiation tactics.

00:22:07.000 Like, dude, he's been on your radar for three years.

00:22:09.000 And you took two years to get ready for heavyweight.

00:22:12.000 What are we doing?

00:22:12.000 Yeah, but I mean...

00:22:13.000 John is so meticulous in his preparation.

00:22:17.000 Like, you've worked with John.

00:22:18.000 You trained with him when he was getting ready for Stipe.

00:22:20.000 Yeah, we did the first camp.

00:22:22.000 I was with him for, like, a couple weeks, and then Stipe got hurt.

00:22:27.000 And then the second camp...

00:22:28.000 Oh, here we go.

00:22:30.000 Someone got hurt.

00:22:32.000 He dropped him.

00:22:33.000 I didn't see with what, but he definitely dropped him.

00:22:38.000 So... But, yeah, the second camp, I was with him for, like, a full, like, six or seven weeks.

00:22:42.000 So... And do you think Tom Aspinall is like, John's going to get him down.

00:22:47.000 If you got him down, John, as far as being Aspinall's guard, do you think it'd be an issue for John at all?

00:22:53.000 No. I think Tom would probably be trying to stand up.

00:22:58.000 And Tom also has pretty good fast takedowns, so they could both take one another down.

00:23:04.000 But I don't think that Tom is going to be able to really do anything besides try to get up on John.

00:23:11.000 Yeah. Trying to get that mounted guillotine.

00:23:14.000 He's been doing jiu-jitsu since he was a kid, you know?

00:23:16.000 It's rare you have a big guy with good hips.

00:23:18.000 Good dogfight, boom.

00:23:19.000 He's so fast, too.

00:23:21.000 Aspinall, as a heavyweight, there's no one like him.

00:23:23.000 The only knock on we really haven't seen would just be his defense.

00:23:26.000 You know, his head exposed, his chin leads forward.

00:23:29.000 The one MMA fight I did see him lose, he got heel locked.

00:23:31.000 And it was a pretty shitty heel lock that he tapped, too.

00:23:34.000 Aspinall? Yeah.

00:23:35.000 When was that?

00:23:36.000 I thought it was undefeated.

00:23:37.000 That was a long time ago.

00:23:38.000 Oh, he's undefeated in the UFC?

00:23:40.000 He got a heel hook before the UFC?

00:23:42.000 Yeah. Interesting.

00:23:43.000 He's undefeated, though.

00:23:44.000 I mean, it was a long time ago.

00:23:46.000 He's obviously gotten much better, but it was a pretty shitty heel hook.

00:23:49.000 No kidding.

00:23:50.000 Was it an amateur fight or was it a pro fight?

00:23:52.000 It's a pro fight, I believe.

00:23:53.000 Here's something to think about.

00:23:54.000 Think of whatever reason John decides he doesn't want to fight Aspinall.

00:23:57.000 What the fuck do you do with Aspinall?

00:24:00.000 Right. There's no one compelling.

00:24:01.000 The heavyweight division's never been worse.

00:24:03.000 It's never been worse.

00:24:04.000 It's awful.

00:24:05.000 Like, there's Cyril gone.

00:24:06.000 A triangle right here.

00:24:07.000 Oh, look at this.

00:24:08.000 Pull that head down.

00:24:09.000 He sticks to the head, just concentrates on the head.

00:24:13.000 He might be able to get it.

00:24:15.000 If he were to ask me a few weeks ago, I would say have Alex move up, but Alex just lost.

00:24:19.000 Yeah, that was the bummer.

00:24:20.000 I heard that Alex fought with a broken...

00:24:23.000 Here's the heel hook.

00:24:23.000 Here it is.

00:24:26.000 It's actually a heel knee bar.

00:24:28.000 So here it is.

00:24:30.000 Who's this guy?

00:24:31.000 So you see, he just scoops the leg from half guard.

00:24:35.000 Tom was whooping his ass.

00:24:36.000 And Tom turns away instead of trying to face him.

00:24:38.000 So he exposes the heel, and it turns into a heel knee bar.

00:24:41.000 Oh, weird.

00:24:43.000 That's a heel hook, but it's a knee bar, but with the heel hook gripping, so he can't turn back into the lock.

00:24:47.000 That dude's in some pub right now going, I beat that guy.

00:24:50.000 I beat the fucking champ.

00:24:51.000 I beat the fucking champ.

00:24:52.000 This guy keeps trying.

00:24:55.000 He's got to create an angle.

00:24:56.000 Well, he's got both arms.

00:24:57.000 Now shoulders in.

00:24:57.000 Yeah. He's got to go with the dead orchard, right, Eddie?

00:25:05.000 Doesn't work.

00:25:07.000 Does it ever work in MMA?

00:25:08.000 Has anybody pulled it off in MMA?

00:25:09.000 Yeah, Elvis Sinisek.

00:25:10.000 Oh, that's right.

00:25:11.000 He was the first one.

00:25:12.000 He was the first one.

00:25:13.000 Elvis! That's when no one really thought it was, like, no one really even noticed it.

00:25:18.000 Because you're taught, you only triangle your legs when there's one arm in, one arm out.

00:25:22.000 Not when there's two arms in.

00:25:24.000 Right. But his legs are so long, he armbarred Jeremy Horn, and then when you look at it, you're like, yo!

00:25:30.000 He's triangling his legs and he has both arms in.

00:25:32.000 Whoa, that's kind of a freak thing.

00:25:34.000 And we just thought it was a freak thing.

00:25:36.000 And then Nathan Orchard and Brian Debs, two of my guys, they just started doing it all the time.

00:25:44.000 They go, do we do this all the time?

00:25:45.000 Really? You're doing triangle?

00:25:46.000 You've got to have long legs.

00:25:48.000 You've got to have long legs.

00:25:49.000 If you have short legs, you've got to do a Mexican dead orchard.

00:25:52.000 You've got to do a lot of extra labor.

00:25:52.000 That's what I do.

00:25:55.000 There's a lot of extra stuff you've got to do to pull it off.

00:25:57.000 What's the Mexican dead orchard?

00:25:58.000 How does it work?

00:25:59.000 You've got to do a lot of stuff.

00:26:00.000 You've got to go invisible collar to muddy waters and then Mexican dead.

00:26:03.000 There's a lot of stuff.

00:26:04.000 Because if you have long hair, if you're a heavy metal dude, if you have long legs and you're on the bottom, Depending on how you match up with the guy, he can get dead orchard.

00:26:16.000 You can triangle your legs with his arms in a perfect defensive position.

00:26:19.000 And a lot of times people get surprised.

00:26:22.000 They're like, what the fuck happened?

00:26:23.000 How did he triangle his legs?

00:26:24.000 They don't understand.

00:26:25.000 But if you have short legs and the guy's like this, or just regular legs, there's no way you're going to be able to triangle your legs with both arms in.

00:26:32.000 You need one arm in, one arm out.

00:26:33.000 So with both arms in, the only way a Mexican or a Chinese guy could do a dead orchard is you've got to have this arm down.

00:26:42.000 And this arm like this.

00:26:43.000 Like this, now I can triangle my legs.

00:26:46.000 You gotta do a lot of work.

00:26:47.000 You gotta get the hand on the mat, and then you gotta get his elbow in.

00:26:50.000 There's a lot of stuff that's super complicated.

00:26:53.000 Dead orchards are not the greatest thing for...

00:26:55.000 And you gotta be super flexible.

00:26:56.000 Super flexible, and you gotta put a lot of time into it.

00:27:00.000 But, if you have long legs...

00:27:02.000 You should be doing Dead Orchards.

00:27:03.000 It's by far the number one armbar in the guard, no gi, and there's not even a close second.

00:27:09.000 Really? One of my black belts has 84 Dead Orchards, and his student, who's a purple one, has 34 Dead Orchards in competition.

00:27:17.000 Who has that many Orchards?

00:27:19.000 Chris Vickers from 10th Planet Walnut Creek.

00:27:21.000 Orchard King.

00:27:22.000 They happen all the goddamn time.

00:27:26.000 Ben Eddy got Wilson Hayes in a combat jiu-jitsu match.

00:27:31.000 I'm in a dead orchard.

00:27:32.000 And Wilson Hayes is a high-level black belt.

00:27:34.000 He just fought Mighty Mouse for the title a month before.

00:27:37.000 That's high-level shit.

00:27:40.000 But for girls, girls proportionally have longer legs than guys and more narrow shoulders.

00:27:47.000 So if you're a girl out there and you're fighting MMA and you don't have a dead orchard in your game, you're missing out.

00:27:53.000 Girls can do Dead Orchards at a higher level or a higher rate than guys, for sure.

00:27:58.000 Just because of the body type.

00:27:59.000 Who do you think has the best guard in MMA?

00:28:01.000 Is it Olivera or Paul Craig?

00:28:05.000 Paul Craig's got a fucking pretty nasty guard.

00:28:09.000 Paul Craig's so dangerous, Bo Nickel didn't even take him down.

00:28:11.000 Yeah. Right?

00:28:12.000 There's so few fighters with dangerous guards in MMA.

00:28:15.000 There's so few.

00:28:16.000 Fabricio was one.

00:28:20.000 Fabricio Verdum is the overlooked GOAT heavyweight.

00:28:23.000 I would say Paul Craig.

00:28:24.000 Yeah. On Goliath and Jamal Hill.

00:28:27.000 He's got two world champions.

00:28:29.000 Armbarred both of them.

00:28:31.000 Triangled him, armbarred him.

00:28:32.000 Very impressive.

00:28:34.000 Broke Jamal's arm, remember?

00:28:36.000 Jamal's arm was flopping all over the place, and he's beating on him.

00:28:39.000 As far as jiu-jitsu, you got Gunnar Nelson on the card tonight, and then Sean Brady's no punk either.

00:28:43.000 Sean Brady's a black belt.

00:28:44.000 He's wicked.

00:28:45.000 Philadelphia gorilla.

00:28:46.000 And I'm sure Gordon would like to point out that he beat Craig Jones in competition.

00:28:49.000 He did beat Craig Jones.

00:28:51.000 In a grappling match.

00:28:54.000 That was one of them deals where you couldn't do heel hooks, though, right?

00:28:57.000 I believe leg locks were illegal.

00:29:00.000 That's a little sus.

00:29:02.000 But, I mean, still.

00:29:03.000 He's an MMA guy who fights at 170.

00:29:05.000 Well, he's a fucking beast.

00:29:06.000 No, yeah.

00:29:06.000 No doubt.

00:29:07.000 He's got like a turtle shell for a back.

00:29:09.000 No, he's a great grappler, which is why I'm excited to watch this.

00:29:13.000 Yeah, his back is like triple thick.

00:29:15.000 You're talking about Sean Brady?

00:29:16.000 Yeah. His back is like extra muscles.

00:29:18.000 What do these do?

00:29:19.000 And Leon Edwards in the weigh-ins, he was like, I don't realize how small he is.

00:29:23.000 I'm definitely going to have a strength advantage.

00:29:24.000 You're like, oh.

00:29:25.000 You answer that?

00:29:25.000 Yeah, you're like, oh, buddy.

00:29:27.000 Oh, boy.

00:29:28.000 You've got to educate yourself.

00:29:29.000 Well, Leon was saying at the weigh-ins, he's too small.

00:29:31.000 I'm going to take him out.

00:29:32.000 He might be shorter than you.

00:29:34.000 Get his hands on you, man.

00:29:35.000 He's a fucking chimp.

00:29:36.000 Yeah. He gets ahold of you.

00:29:38.000 You got real problems.

00:29:39.000 Remember what he did to Kelvin?

00:29:40.000 Yeah, dude.

00:29:41.000 He's manhandled Kelvin.

00:29:42.000 And Gilbert Burns?

00:29:43.000 Kelvin's a hell of a wrestler.

00:29:44.000 Hell yeah.

00:29:44.000 Hell of a wrestler.

00:29:45.000 No, anyone who fights Sean Brady is like, he's the strongest guy we've ever gone against.

00:29:49.000 All of them say it.

00:29:50.000 Yeah. Joe Pfeiffer says it.

00:29:51.000 Yeah. And Joe Pfeiffer's fucking huge.

00:29:54.000 Huge. That's a guy we're like, how the fuck do you make 85?

00:29:58.000 Wow. How do you make 85?

00:30:00.000 Gordon, in your opinion, what's the best leg lock for MMA?

00:30:03.000 Best leg lock position.

00:30:05.000 You're training someone.

00:30:07.000 He wants to learn leg locks.

00:30:08.000 What do you think?

00:30:10.000 Well, for you guys, it'd be called the honey hole.

00:30:12.000 But for us, Krasashigurami.

00:30:14.000 Or Inside Sengaku?

00:30:15.000 Yeah, Inside Sengaku, yeah.

00:30:17.000 That's the best one, you think?

00:30:19.000 One of them.

00:30:20.000 And then, what do you think about putting it on the outside and going Z-lock?

00:30:23.000 That's great, too.

00:30:24.000 It seems like anything on the outside, it turns the guy and he really can't hit you.

00:30:28.000 Because really, it's about being safe from striking.

00:30:31.000 And 50-50, I think everyone agrees.

00:30:34.000 You see 50-50 in MMA and it works, but you can still reach the guy's face, but you can't really hit him that hard.

00:30:40.000 50-50, you can get hit.

00:30:43.000 Outside Ashigarami, or you guys call it double outside, can get hit.

00:30:46.000 Yeah, that's the worst one.

00:30:46.000 But any, like, inside Senkaku, or if you pass leg across to, we call it inside Ashigarami, where you have the, that's how I finished Dickey Rod, where you have the legs triangled inside, but the legs pass to the outside, so you have an outside heel hook.

00:31:00.000 That's great, but because everyone's braking mechanics are, Not up to par on outside heel looks.

00:31:06.000 It's harder to get catastrophic breaks on outside heel looks.

00:31:09.000 So, for MMA, if you have good braking mechanics, like Paul Horace finished a lot of outside heel looks, but his braking mechanics were pretty good.

00:31:18.000 The legs inside with the foot outside is best.

00:31:21.000 Otherwise, just keep the foot on the other side and go for the inverted.

00:31:25.000 So, if this leg was reaping...

00:31:28.000 This foot would be on the outside, right?

00:31:30.000 Like this?

00:31:30.000 Yeah, so you'd have an outside heel.

00:31:31.000 We call that the Indian.

00:31:33.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:34.000 That's Gary heel-hooking.

00:31:35.000 On the inside.

00:31:36.000 Yeah. So, yeah.

00:31:39.000 It's hard for the guy.

00:31:40.000 The guy can't hit you from here.

00:31:41.000 He can't really...

00:31:42.000 Throw any punches to your face?

00:31:43.000 Basically, any time you reap, which is that left leg going on the inside, makes it hard for the guy to hit.

00:31:50.000 So most people think, oh, all leg locks don't work in MMA, you're going to get smashed.

00:31:54.000 That's not true.

00:31:55.000 Some leg locks will save your ass.

00:31:57.000 That was a fight in the UFC.

00:31:58.000 Some Brazilian guy, I forget, it was in the Ultimate Fighter.

00:32:01.000 On his back, getting walloped.

00:32:03.000 And the guy was like, had a horse stance on top of him against the cage and was throwing down.

00:32:07.000 And that Brazilian just jumped on a knee bar.

00:32:11.000 A knee bar attempt.

00:32:12.000 And that saved him.

00:32:14.000 Because now he can't, now he's punching his ass.

00:32:17.000 And then from the knee bar he got knocked down on his back on his butt And then I turned around jumped on his back and choked him out Yeah, I don't think you're seeing a lot of heel hooks because a lot of guys just aren't very efficient in it They're not focusing on Ryan Hall was one of the first to come in and really do some damage with leg locks.

00:32:34.000 He got BJ Penn pretty quick.

00:32:36.000 The number one determining factor with leg locking is, insofar as getting hit, is In order for the person to actually hit you, they have to come up on top of you and put weight onto you.

00:32:48.000 So the number one determining factor is, can I keep this guy's head?

00:32:51.000 If you're attacking and you're trying to punch the guy, if you can get your head over his head...

00:32:56.000 You can hit with power.

00:32:58.000 So any leg-locking position, which doesn't allow your opponent to get head-over-head, is what's gonna keep you safe.

00:33:03.000 So basically, double outside Ashi.

00:33:05.000 What do you guys call it?

00:33:05.000 Double outside Ashi?

00:33:06.000 Just outside Ashi.

00:33:07.000 That's the worst one.

00:33:08.000 Because the guy can come forward into you and get head-over-head and hit you.

00:33:11.000 You either get that heel-hook quick...

00:33:14.000 Or you're gonna take some damage.

00:33:16.000 But anything where you're reaping, which doesn't allow him to come forward into you, because he'll break his own leg if he stacks you, and he can't get head over head, is what you should be looking for.

00:33:25.000 But if the guy can get head over head, then he can hit you easy.

00:33:27.000 Yeah. You going over leg locks with Jon Jones, is he pretty good at him now?

00:33:32.000 Yeah, he kind of just bounces around from thing to thing.

00:33:35.000 Like, he'll be like, oh, I want to go over some leg locks.

00:33:36.000 And, like, you'll teach him to move, and he'll be like, so Darce's.

00:33:39.000 I got a question on Darce.

00:33:40.000 And it's just like, it's like just ADHD, just bounce.

00:33:42.000 But that's how he learns.

00:33:43.000 Like, he just bounces from move to move.

00:33:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:45.000 The first time...

00:33:47.000 I met him.

00:33:48.000 It was his first fight when he fought Stefan Bonner.

00:33:50.000 It was in Boston, and we were at a boxing gym.

00:33:54.000 And I was just hanging out with you because you were taking a private with...

00:33:57.000 Who was the guy from Amsterdam that you were taking privates?

00:34:00.000 It was either Shuki or Rob Kamen.

00:34:04.000 It was one of them.

00:34:05.000 We were in some random boxing gym in Boston.

00:34:07.000 And I was just sitting on the ring.

00:34:10.000 It must have been Rob if we were in Boston.

00:34:12.000 Waiting for you to be done.

00:34:13.000 And then no one knew who Jon Jones was.

00:34:15.000 It was his first fight.

00:34:17.000 And he comes up to me, and he asks for advice.

00:34:20.000 He goes, what do you think, you know, you got any advice from me?

00:34:24.000 And I'm like, I didn't know.

00:34:25.000 And he was fighting Stefan Bonner, and I thought, oh, they're feeding Stefan Bonner some new guy.

00:34:29.000 Like, I felt bad with Jon Jones.

00:34:31.000 So what I told him is, is there's two kinds of wrestlers that...

00:34:36.000 Coming to MMA.

00:34:38.000 Wrestlers that love Jiu Jitsu and wrestlers that want to beat Jiu Jitsu.

00:34:41.000 I go, don't be one of those wrestlers that wants to beat Jiu Jitsu.

00:34:44.000 Fall in love with it.

00:34:45.000 Fall in love with submissions.

00:34:47.000 Because the guys that want to beat it, they never last.

00:34:50.000 They're eventually going to get taken out.

00:34:52.000 Also, wrestlers have such an advantage of being able to manipulate bodies.

00:34:56.000 The scariest Jiu Jitsu guys, for the most part, are guys that wrestle their whole life.

00:35:03.000 And then they fall in love with Jiu Jitsu.

00:35:04.000 And they love pulling.

00:35:07.000 Think about the guys Jon Jones submitted.

00:35:11.000 He's a fucking savage.

00:35:13.000 How did that Stefan Bonner fight?

00:35:15.000 He beat the shit out of him.

00:35:18.000 He beat the shit out of him.

00:35:20.000 Remember when we talked to him into going to a big camp?

00:35:24.000 Do you remember that conversation?

00:35:27.000 When we were at the roof of the hotel.

00:35:30.000 We were hanging out and he was saying, what do you think I should do?

00:35:32.000 I said, you're too good.

00:35:34.000 You need to be at a big camp.

00:35:35.000 You need to be around killers.

00:35:37.000 You're so good, you're going to get by a long way on your own.

00:35:41.000 I go, but you need high-level coaching.

00:35:44.000 You're a world champion.

00:35:45.000 Did you recommend Jackson's to him?

00:35:47.000 I did not.

00:35:48.000 He found Jackson's.

00:35:49.000 Well, Jackson's was huge at the time.

00:35:52.000 It's such a great gym.

00:35:54.000 I mean, you can't go wrong with those guys.

00:35:55.000 And Greg is just such a great mind for strategy.

00:35:58.000 And a good guy.

00:35:59.000 Not a slimy guy.

00:36:00.000 And a big program.

00:36:04.000 Legit kickboxer in his day.

00:36:06.000 Winklejohn's a legit kickboxer.

00:36:07.000 He fought Johnny Viterio.

00:36:08.000 He was legit, man.

00:36:11.000 Winklejohn's a legit striker.

00:36:13.000 And then you got all those other people over there, too.

00:36:15.000 It's like such a killer lineup.

00:36:16.000 I was there during John's heyday, man.

00:36:18.000 Yeah, you were.

00:36:19.000 Savage. Yeah.

00:36:21.000 I think his heyday's still going on, man.

00:36:23.000 Especially at heavyweight.

00:36:24.000 We just don't know.

00:36:26.000 He's not active enough.

00:36:27.000 Yeah. It's really this one fight, man.

00:36:29.000 There's one fight.

00:36:30.000 And then after that...

00:36:31.000 After that, they've got to fucking...

00:36:33.000 They've got to scour...

00:36:34.000 Here's the thing.

00:36:34.000 Because even if he...

00:36:35.000 Even if John mollywops Tom, which I think John would be an underdog in the fight, but let's say John beats Tom...

00:36:40.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:36:40.000 ...

00:36:40.000 and then retires.

00:36:41.000 It's like, all right, Tom Asimov's still going to dominate.

00:36:44.000 Right. Who's going to beat him?

00:36:45.000 You get Francis to come back.

00:36:47.000 The Saudis.

00:36:48.000 Come along.

00:36:49.000 Come on, come on, come on.

00:36:50.000 The Saudis come along with that.

00:36:52.000 Francis is going to fight Wilder.

00:36:53.000 With that big bag.

00:36:54.000 Yeah. Let's go!

00:36:56.000 That's got to do it.

00:36:57.000 Good John Jones story.

00:36:59.000 That nobody knows.

00:37:01.000 Because I was cornering him for that fight, his last fight against Stipe.

00:37:06.000 And we found out that Trump was going to be there.

00:37:08.000 And for probably a solid 15 to 20 minutes, we only, while he was warming up, like 15 to 20 minutes, he's getting ready to go out to fight for the belt.

00:37:22.000 Probably 20 minutes of that warm-up.

00:37:24.000 Was him just practicing the mechanics on how to do the Trump dance right?

00:37:28.000 We like looked it up, we like YouTubed it, and he was like practicing the Trump dance in the locker room getting ready to dance.

00:37:34.000 How confident are you of victory when you're already practicing your victory dance?

00:37:40.000 Pretty confident.

00:37:41.000 And the best is we were all for it.

00:37:43.000 We're like, no, like the hand's got to be a little bit high or a little bit lower.

00:37:45.000 So we were like coaching him through it as he was doing it.

00:37:49.000 Oh, I was laughing so hard.

00:37:51.000 How did that fight end?

00:37:52.000 I forget.

00:37:52.000 Spinny back kick to the body.

00:37:54.000 I never told you this, but I was actually there.

00:37:57.000 I flew in with the guys with CPI.

00:37:57.000 Oh, you were there?

00:38:00.000 Why didn't you tell me we were there?

00:38:01.000 Because you're so busy, you know what I mean?

00:38:03.000 And then I was with a group.

00:38:06.000 A big group, and what am I going to do?

00:38:09.000 I'm like, you know what?

00:38:10.000 You had so much shit going on.

00:38:13.000 So Ed Clay from CPI calls me up and he goes, hey, you want me to pick you up in my private jet and go to see Tyson fight in Dallas, and then we fly and go see Jon Jones fight?

00:38:25.000 No, that sounds terrible.

00:38:27.000 No, I hate fun.

00:38:29.000 I need better friends.

00:38:31.000 I actually said no.

00:38:33.000 Did you really?

00:38:34.000 My kid had baseball.

00:38:36.000 Baseball all weekend.

00:38:37.000 Baseball, fuck you.

00:38:38.000 So I said, damn.

00:38:39.000 Because he asked me.

00:38:40.000 We were going to leave on Thursday or Friday morning or Thursday.

00:38:44.000 And it was like Tuesday.

00:38:47.000 And I'm like, yo, what?

00:38:49.000 No one's ever asked.

00:38:50.000 I've never had that offer ever.

00:38:52.000 Let me go pick you up in the private.

00:38:54.000 Pick me up in Van Nuys Airport.

00:38:55.000 And then we go to Dallas.

00:38:56.000 And then we go to New York.

00:39:00.000 And I said, dude, I can't.

00:39:03.000 I can't.

00:39:04.000 And then I told my wife, and my wife goes, are you fucking retarded?

00:39:08.000 You call his ass back, you fucking going.

00:39:08.000 That's a good wife.

00:39:11.000 And I go, okay.

00:39:12.000 The kids, I call back, I say, my wife's making me go.

00:39:15.000 They play a lot of games.

00:39:16.000 Yeah, especially his son, Travel Ball.

00:39:17.000 It's so many games.

00:39:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:20.000 And, you know, to be honest with you, dude, I've been to a million UFCs.

00:39:23.000 Like, I'd rather watch it at home or with my buddies.

00:39:26.000 Because we have UFC parties at the gym.

00:39:29.000 And, you know...

00:39:31.000 That's funner to me than to see it live to tell you the truth.

00:39:33.000 This is my favorite way.

00:39:34.000 But when we were there, dude, I was just watching the whole Trump thing go on.

00:39:41.000 You see RFK, Tulsi Gabbard.

00:39:43.000 Was Elon there too?

00:39:45.000 I believe he was.

00:39:46.000 And I was just sitting there going, fuck, you're there.

00:39:50.000 I'm like, dude, this is a good time for the deep state to fucking send a missile to Madison Square Garden.

00:39:56.000 It would solve all their problems.

00:39:59.000 Dude, there was like...

00:40:00.000 It was like 47 checkpoints.

00:40:04.000 And then I see Trump come up.

00:40:06.000 I saw the whole fucking thing.

00:40:07.000 Trump walking straight to you and gave you a big fucking hug and he's whispering sweet nothings in your ear.

00:40:14.000 I'm like, holy.

00:40:15.000 They're like, there's shit right here?

00:40:17.000 I was like, what the fuck?

00:40:18.000 He goes right to you, man.

00:40:20.000 Look at that.

00:40:20.000 He didn't want to talk to John Attic.

00:40:22.000 He was right to you.

00:40:23.000 He knew you were ready for the fucking handshake pull.

00:40:25.000 He just came to give me a hug that time.

00:40:29.000 Dude, look at that.

00:40:31.000 And what did he say?

00:40:32.000 He gave DC the left hand.

00:40:35.000 He basically said, I won him the election.

00:40:40.000 Damn. How crazy is this?

00:40:42.000 Right? Very interesting times.

00:40:44.000 And then John Jones wins and then does the dance?

00:40:49.000 That was crazy.

00:40:50.000 Dude, that day.

00:40:51.000 We're so bad.

00:40:51.000 That day was insane.

00:40:53.000 That day was insane.

00:40:53.000 We're so bad.

00:40:55.000 It was a great day.

00:40:56.000 For the world.

00:40:57.000 That's like world history shit.

00:40:59.000 Yeah. Yeah, it was.

00:41:00.000 They could put that whole event in some book.

00:41:03.000 Well, all the athletes started doing the Trump dance after that.

00:41:05.000 A lot of football players were already doing it.

00:41:07.000 A lot of football players.

00:41:09.000 Look at John!

00:41:15.000 That's amazing.

00:41:16.000 That's the coolest shit ever.

00:41:17.000 That's amazing.

00:41:19.000 John Jones.

00:41:20.000 Savage. The goat.

00:41:21.000 The goat.

00:41:22.000 Yeah. The goat now.

00:41:23.000 No doubt.

00:41:24.000 No doubt.

00:41:26.000 It's silly when people argue that.

00:41:27.000 If he beats Aspinall, everybody has to shut the fuck up forever.

00:41:29.000 They need to shut the fuck up even if you're going to lose to Aspinall.

00:41:32.000 His resume to light heavyweight, you've got to realize he went through that whole fucking span of fighting the best of the best that light heavyweight's ever had to offer.

00:41:41.000 Look at the fucked up all of them.

00:41:42.000 Look at the line.

00:41:43.000 It's like Tom Aspinall's a slight favorite.

00:41:45.000 That's kind of crazy.

00:41:46.000 Yeah, he should be.

00:41:47.000 Look at Marab over Sean.

00:41:49.000 Yeah. Ooh, 350 to win.

00:41:52.000 Dude, Tom hasn't been out of the first round.

00:41:53.000 Are they doing, is this real?

00:41:55.000 Are they doing Marab and Sean again?

00:41:57.000 These are just a website taking action.

00:41:59.000 Yeah, they are taking bets already.

00:42:00.000 They are, huh?

00:42:01.000 When is that happening?

00:42:02.000 I don't know, but that's got to be July, right?

00:42:04.000 Yeah, probably.

00:42:05.000 That Islam Topiri.

00:42:07.000 I don't think that's happening.

00:42:08.000 No, Islam's going up to 70. Is he?

00:42:11.000 Yeah. Interesting.

00:42:13.000 Shane! He's got to do a drunk Trump.

00:42:17.000 Trump has never been drunk ever in his life.

00:42:19.000 Can you imagine if Trump was drunk on Twitter?

00:42:24.000 Can you imagine the drunk tweets he would send?

00:42:26.000 Trump doesn't drink at all, right?

00:42:29.000 Fiona Davies.

00:42:30.000 She's amazing.

00:42:31.000 Top female grappler.

00:42:32.000 I just don't recognize we're all dolled up.

00:42:33.000 She's amazing, dude.

00:42:34.000 I saw her Mackenzie Dern bout.

00:42:36.000 Holy shit.

00:42:37.000 Dude, the first time I saw her, she was an EBI.

00:42:39.000 She was a purple belt, and she went against...

00:42:41.000 Her first round match was against Talita Alan Carr, who was a black belt world champion.

00:42:46.000 I gave Talita, like, oh, you're going to get a purple belt, you get the low seat.

00:42:50.000 So it was like an easy...

00:42:51.000 And I'm sitting there, and I'm reffing, and I'm like, oh, Talita's going to kill this little Irish girl.

00:42:56.000 And dude, Fiona was all over her.

00:42:59.000 Took her back and almost finished her.

00:43:01.000 And I'm like, oh my god.

00:43:02.000 And the only reason I put her in there was because Keith Prekorian, he sent me a message.

00:43:07.000 He goes, yo, there's this chick Fiona Davies.

00:43:09.000 You gotta throw her in.

00:43:10.000 And I go, okay, whatever.

00:43:11.000 I'll take that advice.

00:43:13.000 But Talita ended up winning.

00:43:15.000 She ended up getting her back at the end and winning.

00:43:17.000 But it was scary for a second.

00:43:19.000 Wow, as a purple belt.

00:43:20.000 As a purple belt.

00:43:21.000 She almost beat a world champion.

00:43:23.000 This dude looks like he's had a hard life.

00:43:25.000 He's tatted up like a machine gun camera.

00:43:28.000 I don't know these guys.

00:43:29.000 I don't know these guys.

00:43:34.000 So, we'll see what happens with that one.

00:43:36.000 There's a lot of good fights coming up.

00:43:38.000 I'm wondering what they're going to do with Toporia, but I like what you were saying.

00:43:41.000 Toporia versus Oliveira.

00:43:43.000 Your first introduction at 55, he's kind of a king of 55 and dangerous.

00:43:48.000 So dangerous everywhere.

00:43:50.000 Dangerous, striking, huge reach advantage.

00:43:52.000 But if you're Toporia, you're not going to go up to 55 without some sort of guarantee.

00:43:57.000 Because remember, he's giving up the belt, so he's not getting pay-per-view points.

00:43:59.000 But it's his idea.

00:44:01.000 Well, because the weight cut's too tough.

00:44:02.000 Is that what it is?

00:44:03.000 Yeah. Really?

00:44:04.000 45 is too tough for him.

00:44:06.000 But he's been doing it and winning.

00:44:07.000 He's just sick of it.

00:44:08.000 Yeah, I would imagine.

00:44:09.000 Apparently that last cut was really tough and his team was like, alright, no more.

00:44:12.000 Wow. So what is he weighing?

00:44:14.000 You're not going to give up the pay-per-view points and just dip out and then just go into the queue at 55. What was he weighing when he was fighting 45?

00:44:21.000 What was he walking around?

00:44:22.000 They were saying like 180 between.

00:44:23.000 Yeah, big.

00:44:25.000 That's the thing.

00:44:25.000 Everyone's like, oh, he's too small, 55. I'm like, he's fucking big out of gear, man.

00:44:28.000 Yeah, but those guys are real big.

00:44:30.000 Like, Islam's huge.

00:44:32.000 When I stand next to Islam...

00:44:33.000 How about Gleason Tabao?

00:44:34.000 He would cut to 55. That guy walked around at 250.

00:44:37.000 That was back in the day, though.

00:44:39.000 That was back in the day, though.

00:44:40.000 I think he has the...

00:44:42.000 I think that dude has the record for weight cut.

00:44:45.000 Anthony Johnson.

00:44:45.000 I don't know how Alex ever made 85. Who?

00:44:50.000 Alex Pereira.

00:44:53.000 How about DDP?

00:44:55.000 He's fucking huge, bro.

00:44:58.000 Huge. He's so big.

00:45:00.000 I haven't seen him in person.

00:45:02.000 I sat next to Alex when I was like a jack 230 and he like dwarfed me.

00:45:06.000 And I'm like, how does this guy cut to 85?

00:45:08.000 He was bigger in every match.

00:45:09.000 He was bigger.

00:45:10.000 He was longer.

00:45:11.000 He was thicker.

00:45:12.000 They say he fought with a broken hand and norovirus against Ankaleev.

00:45:17.000 He fought with a broken toe before.

00:45:19.000 When he beat Yuri Prochaska, he had a fucked up knee.

00:45:24.000 Remember when he went and he tumbled at the end of the fight?

00:45:27.000 That's because his knee wouldn't support him.

00:45:29.000 He was basically fighting on one leg in the first fight.

00:45:32.000 Then he gets surgery.

00:45:33.000 I guess it was probably meniscus because he came back pretty quick.

00:45:36.000 Walk around weight.

00:45:38.000 231. That's crazy.

00:45:41.000 And he looks 231.

00:45:42.000 When you stand next to him, he looks like a heavyweight.

00:45:44.000 He'd go up 205.

00:45:45.000 Oh, easy.

00:45:46.000 Easy 205.

00:45:47.000 He has a strength for it, too.

00:45:48.000 And bully people.

00:45:49.000 Yeah. Yeah.

00:45:50.000 Get you some.

00:45:51.000 He's a scary dude.

00:45:52.000 He's going to be a problem.

00:45:52.000 Because he confused everybody.

00:45:54.000 Everybody's like, oh, this guy's all awkward and shit.

00:45:56.000 He's going to get pieced up.

00:45:58.000 We watched so many fights, I'd see his style.

00:46:00.000 I'm like, oh, he's going to get exposed eventually.

00:46:02.000 And then you just see him, you're like, what the fuck?

00:46:04.000 When we saw him early in his career, he did not have a nose.

00:46:07.000 His nose was...

00:46:08.000 His cardio was bad.

00:46:09.000 Yeah, his mouth was wide open all the time.

00:46:11.000 And then he got that nose fixed.

00:46:13.000 Man, I remember when I got mine fixed, I was like, why didn't I do this a long time ago?

00:46:17.000 He had like 10% more cardio instantly.

00:46:20.000 Yeah. When his coach came out, he was only breathing at 6%.

00:46:23.000 Capacity, and I was like, this is some bullshit.

00:46:25.000 Out of his nose, maybe.

00:46:26.000 Out of his nose.

00:46:26.000 I believe that.

00:46:26.000 And then he got it fixed, and this motherfucker's unstoppable.

00:46:29.000 Rockhold just did something online where they did a scan inside of his nose.

00:46:33.000 It's all gone.

00:46:34.000 His whole nose is just completely clogged.

00:46:37.000 Because it's like your ears.

00:46:38.000 You get cauliflower ear, that shit, the same thing happens inside your nose.

00:46:42.000 The blood pools up, and it calcifies, and you just get rocks inside your nose.

00:46:47.000 Your nose is just a big fucking closed, like a tunnel that caved in on miners.

00:46:52.000 I had mine fixed when I had my tonsillectomy.

00:46:56.000 They had the stents up there for like a week.

00:46:58.000 I feel like you got a good nose for fighting.

00:47:01.000 No homo, you got a button nose, like cute button nose.

00:47:05.000 Doesn't he have a good nose?

00:47:06.000 So does Eddie.

00:47:08.000 Has anybody thrown a lot of money at you to try to get you to do MMA?

00:47:13.000 Yeah, I was offered seven figures to do bare knuckle MMA.

00:47:18.000 Oh, bare knuckle.

00:47:19.000 Was it Masvidal's thing?

00:47:21.000 I believe so.

00:47:23.000 It wasn't Masvidal who reached out, it was somebody else.

00:47:25.000 Dean, probably?

00:47:26.000 I think it was maybe through Philly Fresh reached out, and it was somewhere around seven figures.

00:47:32.000 Wow. Yeah, I'd watch that.

00:47:34.000 But it was like, I was getting ready for ADCC at the time, and I'm just like, no.

00:47:38.000 Yeah. You were going to do combat jiu-jitsu, too.

00:47:41.000 It was going to be him against Fabricio Verdum.

00:47:43.000 Combat jiu-jitsu.

00:47:45.000 Whoa! That was happening, dawg.

00:47:46.000 That was happening.

00:47:48.000 Take my money.

00:47:49.000 Fuck yes.

00:47:50.000 Take my money.

00:47:51.000 I tore my LCL.

00:47:52.000 Yeah. And then Fabricio got hurt, too.

00:47:55.000 So they both dropped out.

00:47:57.000 But it was going to happen.

00:47:59.000 We had flyers and everything.

00:48:01.000 Fabricio's in GFL, right?

00:48:01.000 Fabricio's in GFL.

00:48:02.000 GFL's got everybody.

00:48:03.000 Chris Weidman's like, I'm retired.

00:48:05.000 And then GFL called him and was like, I'm unretired.

00:48:07.000 I'm back in.

00:48:08.000 Like, back!

00:48:08.000 They're fighting.

00:48:09.000 It's end of May.

00:48:11.000 The arena by the USC down there.

00:48:14.000 It's end of May in L.A. What kind of testing they got?

00:48:16.000 Multiple choice?

00:48:17.000 Don't be a hater.

00:48:19.000 What's this testing you speak of?

00:48:21.000 But dude, they got old guys.

00:48:23.000 Don't test them.

00:48:24.000 Don't test them.

00:48:24.000 Be cool.

00:48:25.000 What the fuck are we doing?

00:48:26.000 The WWE.

00:48:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:48:27.000 Let's go back to the old days.

00:48:28.000 But you got Dylan Dennis, Tony Ferguson.

00:48:31.000 I like you, Doug.

00:48:32.000 Ooh, that's a good fight.

00:48:33.000 That's a good fight.

00:48:33.000 I saw that poster.

00:48:35.000 It's got to be fake because there's zero chance that Dylan...

00:48:38.000 Oh, is that lightweight?

00:48:39.000 Here it is.

00:48:40.000 No chance.

00:48:41.000 But remember, their weight is different.

00:48:42.000 What is it?

00:48:43.000 The weight cut's different.

00:48:44.000 10 pounds.

00:48:45.000 So they can agree to fight at a weight that they're both comfortable at.

00:48:48.000 It's a legendary lightweight matchup.

00:48:49.000 Yeah, but lightweight's different for them.

00:48:51.000 That could be 65. But there's no way he makes 65. He could barely make 170 when he was in shape for ADCC.

00:48:58.000 Their weight classes are different.

00:48:59.000 We pulled it up the other day.

00:49:01.000 Middleweight is 200 pounds.

00:49:02.000 So maybe...

00:49:04.000 Oh, look.

00:49:04.000 I posted right there a comment.

00:49:06.000 Deal of making lightweight.

00:49:07.000 Well, let's see.

00:49:08.000 Pull up GFL weight classes, Jamie.

00:49:11.000 I think they're definitely different.

00:49:13.000 They're different.

00:49:14.000 So if Tony goes, hey, man, I feel good at whatever, 168, 170.

00:49:18.000 And Dylan agrees, like, yeah, I'll fight you at 170.

00:49:21.000 Well, Dylan wasn't even making 170 when he fought in Bellator.

00:49:24.000 50-50 revenue share.

00:49:25.000 He would fight at catchweight.

00:49:27.000 Athletes can earn a fair share of the revenue generated from events, ensuring their success is directly linked to league success.

00:49:32.000 Dang. How do they determine that?

00:49:34.000 50-50 for the game.

00:49:35.000 50-50 once they get in the positive.

00:49:38.000 But then also, like, let's...

00:49:39.000 How do they know who's moving the needle?

00:49:41.000 They all get it?

00:49:42.000 They all get 50-50?

00:49:43.000 Yeah, they all get it.

00:49:44.000 Jamie, can you just Google GFL's weight classes and see if a website explains it?

00:49:49.000 I'm on their website.

00:49:50.000 I know, but I don't think they have it on their website.

00:49:52.000 So if they split the profit, that's different.

00:49:53.000 If they split the profit, what if they don't make any profit?

00:49:55.000 Then nobody gets it.

00:49:56.000 But then what's dope is, let's say Gordon was going to fight and brought in a sponsor, and then they want to sponsor the entire thing, he gets...

00:50:06.000 20% of anything you bring.

00:50:08.000 See, featherweight goes up to 55. Lightweight is 65. Walterweight's 80. So how's Dylan Dance making 65?

00:50:14.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:50:14.000 There's zero chance.

00:50:15.000 He's big.

00:50:17.000 When he fought in Bellator, he would fight at catchweight.

00:50:19.000 It was 175.

00:50:21.000 I like their light heavyweight, 225.

00:50:23.000 I wish they had that when I was fighting him.

00:50:25.000 Maybe he's in the best shape of his life.

00:50:27.000 Maybe. Isn't he fighting KSI in boxing, so shouldn't he be in shape?

00:50:31.000 KSI just pulled out.

00:50:32.000 I'm telling you, there's no way Dylan's going to make it.

00:50:34.000 How does KSI pull out against Dylan Danis?

00:50:37.000 Dylan's not a boxer.

00:50:38.000 KSI's a pretty good boxer.

00:50:40.000 He's legit.

00:50:42.000 For those kind of guys, he's a good boxer.

00:50:45.000 For that.

00:50:46.000 Class, yes.

00:50:47.000 Did he fight Tommy Fury?

00:50:48.000 Or was he going to?

00:50:49.000 He was going to, and then something happened, right?

00:50:51.000 I think.

00:50:52.000 But KSI looks legit to me.

00:50:54.000 Like, out of those guys?

00:50:55.000 For the influencer stuff?

00:50:56.000 Yeah, he's legit.

00:50:58.000 He's got hands.

00:50:59.000 But Dylan is not a boxer.

00:51:02.000 So it's crazy that he would...

00:51:04.000 You would think he could be not even at his best to take that fight.

00:51:08.000 Yeah, I mean, I maybe got hurt.

00:51:10.000 I'm not sure.

00:51:10.000 I just saw something that he pulled out.

00:51:12.000 I don't even...

00:51:13.000 Oh, he got real sick?

00:51:16.000 Got some new coronavirus?

00:51:18.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:51:19.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a breeze strip on.

00:51:21.000 Oh. See what he's saying?

00:51:24.000 Put it on, we can hear him.

00:51:25.000 What is going on?

00:51:27.000 And honestly, I've never been this ill for this long in my life.

00:51:31.000 And I hate it.

00:51:32.000 I feel useless.

00:51:33.000 And it's depressing.

00:51:34.000 I feel like I've let so many people down.

00:51:36.000 I haven't been able to post any YouTube videos to help promote the fight because I've just been feeling so bad.

00:51:42.000 Okay, he's sick.

00:51:47.000 Sounds legit.

00:51:48.000 Yeah. I've been sleeping with mouth tape.

00:51:56.000 You tape your mouth shut?

00:51:57.000 Yeah. So you just breathe through your nose?

00:51:59.000 I can't do that.

00:52:00.000 Game changer.

00:52:01.000 Is that for snoring?

00:52:02.000 It's not just for snoring.

00:52:02.000 In what way?

00:52:03.000 It's like you feel better when you wake up.

00:52:05.000 You feel more rested.

00:52:06.000 Really? Yeah, man.

00:52:06.000 It's amazing.

00:52:07.000 I love it.

00:52:08.000 I just started doing it the last two weeks.

00:52:10.000 What does it look like?

00:52:10.000 How does it work?

00:52:11.000 I just put a black piece.

00:52:13.000 It's called hostage tape.

00:52:14.000 I put a black piece of tape over my mouth.

00:52:15.000 Is your wife like what?

00:52:16.000 She wears it too.

00:52:18.000 Yeah. We're both hostage.

00:52:19.000 You're both like goodnight, babe.

00:52:21.000 Yeah. Give a kiss.

00:52:24.000 You just use any tape or is it special tape?

00:52:27.000 No, it's special tape for mouth taping.

00:52:29.000 There's a bunch of companies that make mouth tape.

00:52:31.000 But this company hostage tapes.

00:52:32.000 And it doesn't fall off?

00:52:34.000 No. It has before, but I keep an extra one by the bed.

00:52:37.000 If it falls off, I just slap it in.

00:52:38.000 When I get like this, like this much stubble, I kind of have to shave so it sticks better.

00:52:42.000 You would have a little bit of an issue with your beard.

00:52:46.000 Probably wouldn't stick that good to your hair.

00:52:47.000 That's why Hitler did his mustache that way, so he could fit a gas mask.

00:52:50.000 That's real.

00:52:51.000 No. Yeah, yeah.

00:52:52.000 Shut the fuck up.

00:52:53.000 Jamie, look it up.

00:52:54.000 Is that real?

00:52:54.000 Yeah, I know my shit.

00:52:55.000 Wow. Apparently he was gassed pretty bad in the First World War.

00:52:59.000 Yeah. So he despised.

00:53:01.000 And that's why he did that mustache.

00:53:02.000 Oh, it's real.

00:53:03.000 That's real.

00:53:04.000 I don't know if that's real, but apparently he was gassed pretty bad in the First World War.

00:53:08.000 Yeah, mustard gas.

00:53:09.000 Bro, that First World War was nuts.

00:53:11.000 The first time they decided to use giant fans and gas people.

00:53:14.000 Toothpast mustache, family associated, it said it originated from a military order to trim his large mustache to fertilize wearing a gas mask.

00:53:20.000 Go down to the military order.

00:53:21.000 During his service in Bavarian Infantry Division, Hitler was ordered to trim his mustache to ensure a proper seal with a gas mask.

00:53:28.000 Wow. And you got the Michael Jordan mustache.

00:53:30.000 That is a fun fact of the day.

00:53:32.000 Wow. Michael Jordan.

00:53:33.000 Michael Jordan's the only guy to ever pull it off.

00:53:36.000 And he got fucked up, right?

00:53:51.000 And that's when he decided to run for everything because he thought he was saved by God.

00:53:55.000 You know what's the craziest thing about the gas thing?

00:53:58.000 The guy who invented Zyklon A, which became Zyklon B, which they killed the Jews with?

00:54:04.000 That guy, Fritz Haber, who was a Jew himself, he originally...

00:54:09.000 When he invented this, he also invented the Haber method for extracting nitrogen from the atmosphere.

00:54:16.000 The Haber method is responsible for 50% of the nitrogen in most people's bodies.

00:54:22.000 Because the Haber method of extracting nitrogen made it so they could fertilize all kinds of soil.

00:54:27.000 So he invents that, and he also invents this gas that kills everybody at the same time.

00:54:34.000 And there's no odor, right?

00:54:36.000 Well, Zyklon B, there's no odor.

00:54:39.000 Zyklon A was invented, I think it was a pesticide.

00:54:43.000 And the idea was the smell was so awful so that you would recognize when it was there and you'd get the fuck away from it.

00:54:50.000 Then Zyklon B, they got rid of the smell.

00:54:52.000 But when they were gassing the troops, he was being wanted for crimes against humanity.

00:54:58.000 For war crimes, at the same time he was going to win the Nobel Prize for inventing the Harvard Method.

00:55:04.000 Wild. And then when Hitler takes over, the Jews all get kicked out of Germany.

00:55:09.000 And he's kind of sort of privileged because he's a part of the administration, but then he gets ostracized and he winds up being exiled and he dies on the run.

00:55:21.000 He died on the run?

00:55:22.000 Died on the run.

00:55:23.000 Died running away from the Nazis.

00:55:25.000 Jesus, man.

00:55:25.000 Yeah. Wild.

00:55:27.000 Crazy story.

00:55:28.000 Dude, have we talked about the JFK files?

00:55:31.000 Not yet, no.

00:55:32.000 No one has.

00:55:33.000 No. I mean, we talked about it a little bit yesterday, but I don't know anything groundbreaking.

00:55:39.000 Nothing, right?

00:55:39.000 Nothing that I've seen so far.

00:55:41.000 Do you follow that?

00:55:43.000 That page on Instagram is called Real News, no bullshit.

00:55:45.000 Yes! They posted something about it.

00:55:47.000 Oh, yeah?

00:55:48.000 I think it was like 2,000 pages or something, and they posted the key takeaways.

00:55:52.000 I read a little bit about it, but I kind of just was like...

00:55:54.000 It's kind of like confirmation that I was like, mafia, Israel, and the CIA.

00:55:59.000 Well, I read one thing that the CIA, within a week or two, had dismissed the idea of a single shooter.

00:56:05.000 I read one thing.

00:56:07.000 They're like, no, it was more than one shooter.

00:56:08.000 Like, this was the...

00:56:09.000 Yeah. It took them a week to figure that out.

00:56:13.000 Weren't they involved?

00:56:15.000 Allegedly. But here's the thing.

00:56:17.000 What part of the CIA?

00:56:19.000 So if you're involved in killing the president, you're not telling Mike down the hallway.

00:56:23.000 It's a small group.

00:56:23.000 You have an enormous fucking office filled with thousands of employees.

00:56:27.000 It's not like everybody's saying, hey, get a meeting.

00:56:29.000 That Irish guy?

00:56:30.000 Fuck him!

00:56:32.000 We're going to take him for a ride through Dallas and shoot him in the fucking head.

00:56:35.000 Let's go!

00:56:36.000 Did you hear that phone call from Lyndon B. Johnson to the wife?

00:56:39.000 To the wife, like a month later.

00:56:41.000 Bro, we're fighting on sight.

00:56:42.000 They were fucking, huh?

00:56:43.000 Wasn't that after she was slapping?

00:56:44.000 But that was after Kennedy was dead.

00:56:47.000 Like a month later.

00:56:48.000 He's like, how are you not going to say goodbye next time I see him?

00:56:50.000 I'm going to give you a slapping around Christmas.

00:56:51.000 She's like, you better.

00:56:52.000 I'll wear the rouge or whatever.

00:56:54.000 He's like, you better.

00:56:55.000 Let's go.

00:56:55.000 Bro, I think everybody was fucking everybody back then.

00:56:58.000 God, good times.

00:56:59.000 I think they were wild people.

00:57:00.000 There was no social media.

00:57:02.000 No one's a snitch.

00:57:04.000 They all just...

00:57:05.000 I mean, everybody knew that Kennedy was fucking everybody.

00:57:07.000 It was all the press knew.

00:57:09.000 Nobody said anything.

00:57:10.000 Didn't he have an affair with Marilyn Monroe?

00:57:13.000 Oh, yeah.

00:57:14.000 And the brother did.

00:57:15.000 And Marilyn Monroe.

00:57:16.000 She was fucking both brothers, dude.

00:57:17.000 And that's a fact.

00:57:19.000 That's not a conspiracy theory.

00:57:20.000 Fact. Fact.

00:57:22.000 Fact. That's crazy.

00:57:23.000 And that's probably why she died.

00:57:25.000 She probably started writing a memoir.

00:57:27.000 Yeah, they said the brother, the pillow talk is what fucked her over.

00:57:32.000 Because he'd fill her in and all this shit.

00:57:33.000 Oh boy.

00:57:34.000 And then John F. Kennedy was like, bro, what are you doing?

00:57:36.000 Really? They're both fucking her, yeah.

00:57:39.000 Hilarious. Hilarious.

00:57:40.000 People were wild back then.

00:57:42.000 Wild boys.

00:57:43.000 No accountability.

00:57:44.000 Get away with it.

00:57:45.000 And if you're the president, that's the reason why the presidents wanted to fuck.

00:57:48.000 Despite rumors and speculation, no definitive proof of an affair.

00:57:52.000 Was this Google, Jamie?

00:57:55.000 Yeah, it's a reputable news source.

00:57:58.000 You didn't see the documentary on Netflix, then.

00:58:01.000 Definitely no proof.

00:58:02.000 Yeah, I mean, no speculation.

00:58:04.000 Let it go.

00:58:04.000 The JFK stuff kind of just confirmed what kind of they label conspiracy theorists.

00:58:08.000 Like, yeah, we've said it was CIA, Mossad, mafia.

00:58:12.000 It's going to take a while for the nerds to really go through it and figure it out.

00:58:15.000 Oh, Candace Owen's been through it, I bet.

00:58:16.000 Has she been through it?

00:58:17.000 I would assume.

00:58:17.000 Well, she's too busy with the Macron thing.

00:58:20.000 I watched two hours of that today.

00:58:21.000 Me too.

00:58:22.000 Have you seen her?

00:58:22.000 Macron's a man.

00:58:25.000 Yeah, Bridget McCrone's a man.

00:58:26.000 She got you.

00:58:27.000 Yeah, she got me.

00:58:28.000 Candace got me.

00:58:29.000 She got me hook, line, sinker.

00:58:30.000 I was eating breakfast today.

00:58:32.000 Yeah, I do the same shit.

00:58:33.000 I was eating elk steaks watching Candace Owens on my fucking YouTube.

00:58:38.000 I love her.

00:58:39.000 I was like, this is crazy.

00:58:40.000 Have you dived into her Harvey Weinstein shit?

00:58:43.000 Yes. I watched the first episode of that.

00:58:44.000 Bro. Crazy.

00:58:45.000 It's crazy.

00:58:46.000 She's like, I can't believe I'm on Harvey Weinstein's side.

00:58:49.000 Right? Crazy.

00:58:51.000 I thought he was guilty of heinous crimes.

00:58:54.000 And then you listen to it and you're like, wait, what?

00:58:56.000 What is going on?

00:58:57.000 When they go through the actual affidavit, like what the girls accuse him for, you're like, what the fuck?

00:59:01.000 He didn't have testicles.

00:59:02.000 Yeah, she was talking about his testicles.

00:59:04.000 He doesn't have them.

00:59:06.000 Like, there's all these, like, things that should have been, that should have, like, completely thrown out a lot of her claims.

00:59:14.000 Like she was talking about he made me like hold his balls or something like that.

00:59:17.000 He doesn't have balls.

00:59:18.000 His balls are like literally like inside of his thigh.

00:59:18.000 He doesn't have balls.

00:59:21.000 When he was like 30 years old, they had to get rid of him.

00:59:23.000 He's got a terrible disease.

00:59:24.000 It's like gangrene of the dick.

00:59:25.000 Oh my god.

00:59:26.000 Have you ever heard of it?

00:59:27.000 Never heard of it.

00:59:28.000 Oh, he's got this crazy disease where your dick is basically like rotting off.

00:59:33.000 Which is kind of crazy for a guy who's like obviously a sex addict.

00:59:36.000 Yeah. Your dick starts rotting away and then you still whip it out.

00:59:39.000 Yeah. You're whipping out a zombie dick.

00:59:41.000 Yeah. Like it's a mess.

00:59:42.000 It's a mess.

00:59:43.000 What is that actually called?

00:59:44.000 Prosecutors revealed to the jury that Weinstein underwent surgery in 99 for four years gangrene, which required doctors to remove some of his scrotum.

00:59:52.000 That surgery caused a pretty noticeable scarring because of an infection.

00:59:55.000 His testicles were actually taken from his scrotum and put into his inner thighs.

01:00:01.000 So you go through the reports and they're like, yeah, he made me suck on his balls.

01:00:05.000 Well, that's a problem.

01:00:08.000 Whoa. There's a lot of problems.

01:00:10.000 The lady was a grifter.

01:00:11.000 The lady, allegedly.

01:00:13.000 And was going back and forth from rich guy to rich guy, trying to get things happening, and Harvey put her in a few things.

01:00:13.000 That's brutal.

01:00:19.000 That was Harvey's move, apparently.

01:00:21.000 He'd put you in a few things.

01:00:23.000 Whitney told me that he would make deals with ladies.

01:00:26.000 Like, look, suck my dick, I'll get you an Oscar.

01:00:28.000 And they would suck his dick.

01:00:30.000 And he would get him an Oscar.

01:00:32.000 And this was the thing, where everybody thanked him.

01:00:34.000 That actually happened?

01:00:34.000 Thank you, Harvey.

01:00:35.000 Yeah. He gave...

01:00:37.000 An actress, an Oscar.

01:00:39.000 Well, he didn't give him an Oscar.

01:00:40.000 He gave him an Oscar award-winning role in a Miramax film, which is going to be a blockbuster film, which pretty much gets you real close.

01:00:48.000 And then there's the influence of it being a Harvey Weinstein movie.

01:00:51.000 He was the king at the time, and everybody followed his lead.

01:00:54.000 You have big movies like Pulp Fiction and those kind of films that Miramax produced.

01:00:59.000 They produced bangers.

01:01:00.000 You go back and look at the Miramax library.

01:01:03.000 Banger after banger when Harvey Weinstein was...

01:01:06.000 Because... Quentin Tarantino.

01:01:07.000 Yeah. I mean, it's just like the wildest movies from the wildest dude, you know, who is clearly a sex addict.

01:01:14.000 He's like, if you want to be a lead in Pulp Fiction, you're going to suck these balls in my thigh.

01:01:23.000 I mean, it's fucking wild.

01:01:25.000 He just was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

01:01:27.000 If this happened in the 80s, they probably would have thrown it out.

01:01:29.000 But in the Me Too movement, it was a hot witch hunt.

01:01:33.000 There was a lot of people that got in deep shit for almost nothing.

01:01:35.000 Dude, look into the dude from that 70s show who's in prison for life.

01:01:39.000 His appeal's coming up.

01:01:40.000 Look into that one.

01:01:42.000 Really? Bro.

01:01:43.000 That was like three chicks, right?

01:01:45.000 Three chicks.

01:01:46.000 And if you look at the appeal, it started off with, oh, he raped me and drugged me.

01:01:50.000 And then it went to, he held a gun to my head.

01:01:53.000 They keep changing their stories.

01:01:55.000 That one's wild.

01:01:58.000 You've been following the Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively thing?

01:02:00.000 Bro, Blake Lively.

01:02:01.000 Talk about ruining your reputation and Ryan Reynolds.

01:02:03.000 Yeah, they fucked up.

01:02:04.000 Ryan's trying to get out of it now.

01:02:06.000 He's trying to get out of the lawsuit.

01:02:07.000 And they're like, you are a key part of this.

01:02:09.000 This is what you get, though.

01:02:10.000 This is what you get, trying to fucking ruin a guy's livelihood by using the Me Too movement?

01:02:15.000 Because they were trying to take over the movie.

01:02:17.000 Yeah. They were trying to take over the movie and the whole franchise.

01:02:19.000 He owned the franchise.

01:02:20.000 They're fucked, man.

01:02:21.000 The whole thing's crazy.

01:02:21.000 They're fucked.

01:02:22.000 And he's suing the New York Times, and he's got a great case there, too.

01:02:25.000 He's going hard in the paint.

01:02:26.000 But that's what it takes.

01:02:27.000 It's like Johnny Depp.

01:02:28.000 He's like, alright.

01:02:29.000 He did it for the boys.

01:02:30.000 Exactly. You gotta do it.

01:02:32.000 You need real motherfuckers to be like, nah, man, I ain't going out like this.

01:02:35.000 Yeah, especially a guy like that who's known as being this really sweet, nice guy.

01:02:40.000 And then he's like, alright, enough.

01:02:41.000 He posted the receipts?

01:02:42.000 He's like, oh, remember our tech exchange?

01:02:45.000 How about she told him to come into the dressing room while she was breastfeeding?

01:02:50.000 And then part of the complaint was that he came into the dressing room while I was breastfeeding.

01:02:54.000 Like, you literally have a text exchange back and forth.

01:02:58.000 They just never thought that anybody was going to come out with the receipts.

01:03:00.000 Because no one's ever done it, because everyone just bows down.

01:03:03.000 Because everyone's scared.

01:03:03.000 Because Ryle Reynolds, A-list.

01:03:05.000 Blake Lively, A-list.

01:03:06.000 Like, don't, they're the queen.

01:03:08.000 Oh, that's the Taiki team.

01:03:09.000 Oh, is it over?

01:03:10.000 Yeah, we missed it.

01:03:11.000 It's 2025.

01:03:12.000 That shit's over, man.

01:03:15.000 We're terrible at this.

01:03:16.000 Yeah, we've been talking about Harvey Weinstein's nuts and his thighs.

01:03:19.000 We missed the favorite getting choked out.

01:03:23.000 I'm going to get a Coke real quick.

01:03:24.000 Anyone want anything?

01:03:25.000 I'm going to take a piss really quick.

01:03:27.000 I'll wait for you to take piss so we're not all gone.

01:03:30.000 We're going to miss you, Eddie.

01:03:32.000 It'd be cool if we grabbed me a Coke, right?

01:03:33.000 Go grab me a Coke, Eddie!

01:03:35.000 Oh, wait till he's out there.

01:03:36.000 That'd be cool.

01:03:36.000 Oh, dude, I haven't seen him out there yet.

01:03:38.000 One, two, three.

01:03:38.000 Oh, that's a belt, bro.

01:03:39.000 That's the Gordon Ryan belt, motherfuckers.

01:03:42.000 Right there.

01:03:42.000 Yeah, that's badass.

01:03:43.000 Prominent position.

01:03:44.000 That is a prominent position.

01:03:45.000 Yeah, that looks awesome.

01:03:47.000 You two pulled up in some shit today.

01:03:49.000 Your new car, that fucking truck.

01:03:52.000 Jesus Christ.

01:03:53.000 I haven't seen that car.

01:03:53.000 What is it?

01:03:54.000 Oh, it's a Shelby Super Snake.

01:03:56.000 What year?

01:03:58.000 24. Okay.

01:03:59.000 First one I've ever seen.

01:04:00.000 How much horsepower does it make?

01:04:01.000 830? 830, yeah.

01:04:03.000 Coyote 5-0.

01:04:04.000 So fun.

01:04:04.000 Is it manual?

01:04:05.000 Yeah, of course.

01:04:05.000 What am I, communist?

01:04:07.000 It's manual.

01:04:08.000 They don't make the GT500s in the...

01:04:09.000 I know, but they make the Supersnake in it, which is why I bought it.

01:04:12.000 I would have bought a GT500, but there was one company that was doing a swap.

01:04:16.000 They were doing a six-speed swap on a GT500.

01:04:19.000 I almost bought that.

01:04:20.000 But then I thought about it.

01:04:22.000 I was like, I don't want any Frankenstein cars.

01:04:24.000 Like, I don't know how this works.

01:04:25.000 Computer stuff, weird shit.

01:04:27.000 Because, you know, it's not designed for that.

01:04:30.000 But the Supersnake is designed for it.

01:04:32.000 Oh, it auto blips on the downshifts.

01:04:34.000 It's nice.

01:04:35.000 Sounds nice.

01:04:36.000 Oh, it sounds like war.

01:04:38.000 It sounds like a real American muscle car.

01:04:40.000 But it's modern.

01:04:41.000 So it has all the feel of a muscle car.

01:04:44.000 The lurch when you hit the gas.

01:04:45.000 Boom! Fucking giant power.

01:04:47.000 Great handling.

01:04:48.000 Great handling.

01:04:49.000 The brakes are great.

01:04:50.000 Yeah, but it's also real comfortable.

01:04:51.000 The drive suspension is beautiful.

01:04:53.000 Yeah, it's a great fucking car.

01:04:55.000 And it's just so good looking.

01:04:56.000 Oh, it's so fun.

01:04:57.000 I love it.

01:04:58.000 I love it.

01:04:58.000 It's such an American car.

01:05:00.000 Bro, I was at Mecham yesterday.

01:05:01.000 You should see some of the shit people do with those cars, man.

01:05:05.000 It's wild, man.

01:05:06.000 With Mustangs?

01:05:06.000 Everything. Oh, with everything.

01:05:08.000 I mean, the Mustangs for sure.

01:05:09.000 Like the old, the 60s, all that shit.

01:05:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:05:11.000 Dude. And the resto mods?

01:05:14.000 Mm-hmm.

01:05:14.000 I'm just sitting there like, bro, I want it all.

01:05:16.000 I know it's a problem.

01:05:17.000 I want it all.

01:05:18.000 Cars are a real problem.

01:05:19.000 We're talking to three guys here that have real car problems.

01:05:21.000 Oh, dude.

01:05:22.000 At a budget, like they cleared me to buy something and I've never bid on anything.

01:05:26.000 I went fucking nuts, dude.

01:05:28.000 What'd you get?

01:05:29.000 Oh, you got a Jeep, right?

01:05:30.000 I got a Jeep.

01:05:31.000 I went nuts.

01:05:31.000 I tackled my manager.

01:05:32.000 I didn't know what to do.

01:05:33.000 I was so nervous.

01:05:35.000 I was so fucking nervous.

01:05:37.000 Because there's like big ballers.

01:05:38.000 There was a guy, I went to the Kismet one.

01:05:40.000 There's some old, I have no idea what he did.

01:05:42.000 He was next to me.

01:05:43.000 In 12 minutes, he probably spent $7 million in cars and didn't give a fuck.

01:05:50.000 And I was like, bro, you just won that GT40.

01:05:53.000 How are you not...

01:05:53.000 No fist pump?

01:05:55.000 Nothing? That's yours?

01:05:55.000 That's mine.

01:05:56.000 What color is that?

01:05:57.000 It's like a purplish-pinkish?

01:05:59.000 Yeah, it's like a pinkish, but it has a 392.

01:06:01.000 It's the last call edition.

01:06:02.000 Brand new.

01:06:03.000 Less than 200 miles.

01:06:05.000 That looks good.

01:06:06.000 Look, I tackled my fucking manager right there.

01:06:08.000 Oh, so you were right there.

01:06:09.000 What happened?

01:06:10.000 I was on ESPN.

01:06:10.000 I didn't know.

01:06:11.000 I was so embarrassed when they told me I was on live TV.

01:06:16.000 That's hilarious.

01:06:17.000 Those 392 Jeeps are sick.

01:06:20.000 Oh, they're great.

01:06:21.000 Brigham has a lifted one.

01:06:22.000 They are awesome.

01:06:23.000 Oh, I'm going to toss some King Shocks on that bitch.

01:06:26.000 A big Magnum blower.

01:06:27.000 That's another classic American car.

01:06:28.000 I mean, the Jeeps look exactly like Jeeps, and they have like that for...

01:06:31.000 They look updated, but it's kind of like a 911.

01:06:34.000 That's what I was just going to say.

01:06:35.000 Like Porsche.

01:06:36.000 They never change the body style, so they have this cult following.

01:06:38.000 You know what's the most Googled truck in the world?

01:06:40.000 Oh, I believe.

01:06:41.000 A Wrangler.

01:06:42.000 Yeah. They have like a cult following.

01:06:44.000 Also, there's so much customization available for those things because they've been around for so long.

01:06:48.000 They're like Lego cars.

01:06:48.000 You can't go wrong.

01:06:50.000 So much shit for them.

01:06:50.000 You can't go wrong with that.

01:06:52.000 Have you ever seen the America's Most Wanted Jeeps?

01:06:56.000 Oh, where they toss the Hellcat in them?

01:06:57.000 The demons and shit?

01:06:58.000 Oh, yeah, baby.

01:06:58.000 They put 1,200 horsepower in those bitches.

01:07:00.000 That's my shit.

01:07:01.000 Yeah. And they do up the suspension and map everything out perfect.

01:07:05.000 Were you going to get one or no?

01:07:07.000 Yeah. You were sending me one.

01:07:08.000 I'm too busy.

01:07:09.000 Too many things.

01:07:10.000 Too much.

01:07:11.000 I love my call.

01:07:12.000 Y'all get some bullshit, like a four excursion on my helmet.

01:07:15.000 Overwhelmed. Powerstroke, and I call him.

01:07:17.000 They're like, cool, cool.

01:07:17.000 And he tells me what he has.

01:07:18.000 I'm like, oh, my God.

01:07:19.000 Yeah, there's one.

01:07:20.000 Look at that.

01:07:20.000 That's 1,000 horsepower.

01:07:22.000 That has the health in it.

01:07:25.000 Those things are wild.

01:07:26.000 Yeah, they make some wild ones.

01:07:28.000 Are you going to get the new ZR1?

01:07:30.000 I want to.

01:07:31.000 I should.

01:07:31.000 But I shouldn't.

01:07:32.000 But I will.

01:07:32.000 I already put the order into spec one.

01:07:35.000 You had the SF90 on order, didn't you?

01:07:37.000 Yeah. Did you get that?

01:07:38.000 No, it hasn't gotten here yet.

01:07:41.000 You should just get the ZR1 instead.

01:07:42.000 The other one's going to my wife.

01:07:45.000 That's fair.

01:07:45.000 That's why I was driving.

01:07:46.000 That's an horsepower Ferrari.

01:07:49.000 All black.

01:07:53.000 I just kind of stop driving automatic cars.

01:07:58.000 Unless it's my Tesla.

01:08:00.000 What's your favorite car to drive?

01:08:02.000 Don't say the Tesla.

01:08:02.000 I don't know.

01:08:04.000 The Tesla, if I want to get there quick.

01:08:06.000 If I want to get there quick.

01:08:08.000 But you don't want people, you know, flipping you off and shit.

01:08:11.000 You don't want them drawing Nazi signs on it.

01:08:13.000 You don't have too much of a problem with that in Austin.

01:08:15.000 You know what's weird is, you know me, I can't stand electric cars, but now that the libs are like, I'm like, oh shit, I might get a Cybertruck.

01:08:21.000 I wish a motherfucker would.

01:08:22.000 Yeah, just because.

01:08:23.000 I wish them.

01:08:23.000 Just because.

01:08:24.000 Oh, now I want one.

01:08:25.000 Now you fucked up.

01:08:26.000 It's so stupid.

01:08:28.000 I might get one and swap a diesel in it so it looks like it.

01:08:31.000 And they don't know.

01:08:32.000 Jesus. Just so they fuck with me.

01:08:34.000 Yeah. People have done that.

01:08:37.000 They've put V8s.

01:08:38.000 They've dropped V8s in Teslas.

01:08:39.000 It's a lot of work, though.

01:08:41.000 It's also why.

01:08:41.000 You're basically just tossing.

01:08:42.000 You've got to pay for the Cybertruck, and I'm going to have to pay for it.

01:08:45.000 It's a disaster.

01:08:46.000 Rich Rebuilds did one.

01:08:47.000 And then it's just slower.

01:08:48.000 Yeah. Yeah, it's silly.

01:08:50.000 Sometimes it's not all about speed, though.

01:08:52.000 You know, when people tell me that, I'm like, ah, you ever driven like a fucking water-cooled fucking, you know.

01:08:57.000 Flat six Porsche, like, stick?

01:08:59.000 No, no.

01:08:59.000 Of course.

01:09:00.000 Right. Especially the air-cooled ones.

01:09:02.000 Yeah, the air-cooled ones.

01:09:03.000 It's just not all about that.

01:09:04.000 Especially those old ones are so light.

01:09:06.000 You feel everything.

01:09:07.000 You're dealing with a 2,000-pound car.

01:09:10.000 Even if it only has 250 horsepower, it's so fun.

01:09:13.000 It's different.

01:09:14.000 It's so different.

01:09:15.000 It's like an amusement park ride.

01:09:17.000 It's like...

01:09:20.000 It's just like...

01:09:21.000 It feels like you could die at any point, but then you look down and you're doing like 35 miles an hour.

01:09:26.000 My Hummer is not the fastest, but fuck, it's cool, man.

01:09:29.000 Yeah, fuck.

01:09:30.000 There's nothing like it.

01:09:31.000 I forgot you got a Hummer.

01:09:32.000 What's in that thing?

01:09:33.000 6.0 Powerstroke, fully built.

01:09:35.000 Big-ass turbo.

01:09:36.000 Aren't there electric Hummers now?

01:09:38.000 Yeah. Those are great, man.

01:09:39.000 The new GMC's, those are fucking great.

01:09:41.000 Red Band has one of those.

01:09:42.000 It's fucking awesome.

01:09:44.000 They crab walk.

01:09:44.000 Crab walk.

01:09:45.000 Yeah. Parallel park like this and shit.

01:09:47.000 Does he have any problems with it?

01:09:48.000 I heard the charging has some issues.

01:09:50.000 They've had a lot of issues with them, yeah.

01:09:51.000 No, he hasn't had any problems with it.

01:09:52.000 They'll figure those out, though.

01:09:53.000 Yeah, he loves it, though.

01:09:54.000 It's fast as shit, too, for a big-ass fucking truck.

01:09:57.000 They're so fast.

01:09:58.000 So heavy.

01:09:59.000 Crazy fast.

01:09:59.000 So fast.

01:10:00.000 But huge.

01:10:01.000 It's an enormous truck.

01:10:02.000 You think they're going to start making less electric vehicles now that Trump's in?

01:10:05.000 They're already doing it.

01:10:06.000 Here's the problem with electric vehicles.

01:10:08.000 This is the number one problem.

01:10:09.000 Resale. Terrible.

01:10:11.000 Porsche Taycans, they sell them for like, you know, what is a Taycan Turbo S?

01:10:16.000 160? They sell them like a year later for like 70. Over 200.

01:10:22.000 They lose so much value.

01:10:23.000 Jamie, I lost my...

01:10:24.000 Crazy value.

01:10:26.000 Why is that?

01:10:26.000 Because nobody wants to buy a used electric car because the range drops off.

01:10:30.000 So like say if you buy a Corvette, you can buy a 2017 Corvette, like a ZR1.

01:10:36.000 They're still really expensive.

01:10:38.000 Super expensive.

01:10:39.000 Is ZR1 a manual from like 2017?

01:10:42.000 It's like...

01:10:43.000 You get $300,000 right now.

01:10:45.000 Right now.

01:10:46.000 A better comparison would be, think about your Ford GT, a 2006.

01:10:51.000 Right. They're $500,000 minimum now.

01:10:54.000 Right, but that's different because that's like a classic.

01:10:57.000 It's 20 years old.

01:10:59.000 But a new car, say if you get a new AMG GT and it's a 2025, you sell it next year, you're not going to lose much money.

01:11:08.000 If you sell a Ferrari, you'll lose no money.

01:11:11.000 Like if you buy a Ferrari today and you sell it in a year and you got a thousand miles on it, you'll make money.

01:11:17.000 Porsche make money.

01:11:18.000 Porsche's the best.

01:11:19.000 But if you have a fucking electric car, like Audis, those e-trons, those are sick.

01:11:23.000 Even Tesla Plaid.

01:11:24.000 Sick cars.

01:11:25.000 Tesla Plaid, I can get cheap.

01:11:26.000 A friend of mine got one of those and he got like a year old one for like 70 grand.

01:11:33.000 And brand new.

01:11:34.000 It's like 150 or something like that.

01:11:36.000 It's crazy.

01:11:37.000 Why not just get like a new battery or something?

01:11:39.000 Well, that's a big problem.

01:11:40.000 So expensive.

01:11:41.000 Swapping batteries.

01:11:42.000 And they still have battery.

01:11:44.000 For the most part, you're not driving 250 miles.

01:11:47.000 If you have a plug at home, if you plug it in at home, you have a supercharger at your house, which I do for my car.

01:11:52.000 It's great.

01:11:53.000 I just get it home, plug it in.

01:11:54.000 It's always good to go.

01:11:55.000 And it gets like fully charged.

01:11:58.000 I think my car gets like 350 miles if you drive like a grandma.

01:12:03.000 For normal day-to-day, you just stick it in there and you never go to the gas station.

01:12:06.000 It's awesome.

01:12:07.000 See, but fuck all that noise.

01:12:08.000 You're not road-tripping it?

01:12:09.000 Yeah, as long as you're not road-tripping.

01:12:10.000 If you're road-tripping it, you've got to really map it out, especially if you don't have a Tesla, because then you have to find all these other rando super stations.

01:12:18.000 But like my Hummer, I have a 55-gallon diesel tank in the back.

01:12:21.000 I fill that bitch up maybe once every three weeks.

01:12:25.000 It gets good gas mileage.

01:12:27.000 I can go on long road trips.

01:12:28.000 There's a few great options that aren't Teslas.

01:12:31.000 One is Lucid.

01:12:31.000 You've seen Lucid Air?

01:12:33.000 Those are cool.

01:12:33.000 They make them super high-end.

01:12:35.000 Eric Griffin has one.

01:12:36.000 Does he really?

01:12:37.000 Yeah. That bitch shut down on us in the parking lot, but yeah, he has one.

01:12:40.000 Did he really?

01:12:40.000 We couldn't get out.

01:12:42.000 It died?

01:12:43.000 It was like 100 degrees.

01:12:43.000 I was like, oh, I'm going to break your car, dude.

01:12:45.000 And he's like, oh, out of all the times that this has never happened, it happens while you're in the car.

01:12:49.000 I was like, I fucking hate these.

01:12:51.000 Isn't there a manual release?

01:12:52.000 He didn't have that.

01:12:53.000 Okay. Yeah.

01:12:54.000 We had to wait like 40 minutes.

01:12:56.000 Did someone have to come and help it out?

01:12:58.000 No, eventually he called and they're like, oh, just reset.

01:13:01.000 It was like resetting your phone.

01:13:02.000 Oh, wow.

01:13:03.000 I fucking hate that shit.

01:13:03.000 Isn't there something about like, you know.

01:13:06.000 All the radiation.

01:13:08.000 You're in the car and it's like you're surrounded by...

01:13:11.000 No, that's a good question.

01:13:12.000 Like EMF, right?

01:13:13.000 It's a good question.

01:13:14.000 Is that a real problem?

01:13:16.000 If you're not supposed to have your phone by your head...

01:13:18.000 Your car?

01:13:19.000 Yeah. I mean, your whole car is a big-ass phone.

01:13:21.000 I don't know.

01:13:22.000 That's a real problem?

01:13:25.000 According to people like RFK Jr. and many other people, don't think that you should have ear pods in.

01:13:32.000 You should have the wired ones only, and even those are not the best thing to have.

01:13:37.000 You should just listen to things like on a Bluetooth speaker.

01:13:39.000 Also, the people vandalizing Teslas, that could be a worse car to vandalize because there's cameras fucking everywhere on that thing.

01:13:46.000 360. Bro, so many people are going to jail right now.

01:13:49.000 And if you don't have a Tesla, you don't really know that like...

01:13:52.000 If you're within 20 feet of the car, it's recording.

01:13:55.000 Yes. Sentry mode.

01:13:57.000 Seven cameras.

01:13:58.000 It's so wild.

01:13:59.000 Fully HD cameras.

01:14:01.000 See your face.

01:14:02.000 There's so many guys who've gotten busted.

01:14:04.000 Fat liberals.

01:14:05.000 Have you seen those Tesla mini homes?

01:14:07.000 They're never in shape.

01:14:09.000 There was one guy who was rubbing shit.

01:14:11.000 Grab his ass?

01:14:12.000 Grab his ass cheeks and just rubbed it all over.

01:14:15.000 That guy was looking for an excuse to rub shit on things.

01:14:17.000 He probably goes home and jerks off with his own shit.

01:14:21.000 Have you seen those Tesla mini homes?

01:14:24.000 No. Oh, you haven't seen them?

01:14:26.000 No. Dude, Tesla has tiny homes.

01:14:30.000 They're like trailers, but like super high-tech.

01:14:34.000 I saw the Amazon ones.

01:14:35.000 Have you seen those?

01:14:37.000 Tesla's got mini homes.

01:14:39.000 No shit.

01:14:39.000 Have you seen this, Jamie?

01:14:40.000 The mini-homes?

01:14:41.000 They're not made by Tesla, though.

01:14:43.000 Oh, it's not?

01:14:43.000 No, no, it is.

01:14:44.000 No, seriously.

01:14:44.000 I'm looking.

01:14:45.000 The one that I've seen, I just saw it a couple days ago.

01:14:47.000 It's Tesla.

01:14:49.000 He sure wasn't like an AI-generated thing?

01:14:52.000 No, no.

01:14:53.000 Tesla has solar panels.

01:14:54.000 Yeah, they have Tesla solar panels for your roof.

01:14:57.000 Tesla mini-homes.

01:15:00.000 That's not real.

01:15:01.000 If that's what it was.

01:15:02.000 That shit gets Calen though, Eddie.

01:15:04.000 That's not real?

01:15:05.000 Yeah, it gets Calen all the time.

01:15:06.000 Yeah, there's fucking AI.

01:15:07.000 They get me, man.

01:15:08.000 I asked Elon like five times.

01:15:09.000 You making a phone?

01:15:10.000 Wait a minute.

01:15:11.000 Why do they keep getting these AI X phones?

01:15:13.000 It's fake.

01:15:13.000 There it is.

01:15:14.000 That's fake?

01:15:15.000 Click on it.

01:15:15.000 It's from two years ago.

01:15:16.000 It's not real.

01:15:17.000 Click on it though.

01:15:17.000 We'll see what it says.

01:15:19.000 I know it's fake.

01:15:20.000 AI's getting so good.

01:15:21.000 Calen thought Conor McGregor was in the movie Popeye.

01:15:25.000 It's just like a YouTube video with a Popeye.

01:15:26.000 Damn, they got me dead serious.

01:15:28.000 Dead serious.

01:15:30.000 So they show the little house?

01:15:32.000 Well, there's boxable.

01:15:33.000 No, I know about that.

01:15:34.000 Like, that's real, right?

01:15:35.000 Oh, yeah.

01:15:36.000 I mean, you could buy a house for 10 grand now.

01:15:38.000 If you're just like a single dude who has a plot of land, just park that house with solar.

01:15:43.000 You could literally live off the grid in a little bullshit house.

01:15:47.000 Like that?

01:15:47.000 Is that what?

01:15:48.000 And then you get Starlink.

01:15:50.000 Is that real?

01:15:51.000 No, it was like a little...

01:15:52.000 It was a pod, like an egg.

01:15:54.000 It looks like an egg.

01:15:55.000 That's AI, Doug.

01:15:56.000 Wow, they got me good.

01:15:58.000 Those little tiny houses you could buy, like if you were just a dude living by yourself, and you're like, I don't need nothing.

01:16:03.000 If you're young, it'd be dope.

01:16:04.000 Yeah, man.

01:16:05.000 They're not expensive.

01:16:07.000 Like somebody leaves you a little plot of land, you got a couple acres somewhere.

01:16:10.000 Every man's dream.

01:16:11.000 A one-bedroom house with a 40-car garage.

01:16:14.000 Sit on your front porch and say, fuck the world, I own this whole thing.

01:16:18.000 I own this.

01:16:19.000 No mortgage?

01:16:20.000 Yeah, no mortgage.

01:16:21.000 $10,000 house.

01:16:22.000 And it's nice.

01:16:24.000 It's like, what do you need?

01:16:25.000 Do you need a kitchen?

01:16:26.000 Do you need a TV?

01:16:26.000 What the fuck do you need?

01:16:27.000 If you're a single guy, you need a bed, you need a TV, unless you're trying to get mad pussy.

01:16:32.000 If you're trying to get mad pussy, then you need a long driveway, lights everywhere, you need a fountain.

01:16:40.000 All the dudes are like, this is dope.

01:16:42.000 The chick's like, good luck.

01:16:43.000 That's not a panty dropper.

01:16:44.000 A tiny house is a no-go.

01:16:47.000 Like, why do you have a tiny house?

01:16:49.000 What's going on?

01:16:51.000 Can I see your bank account?

01:16:52.000 How much do you make?

01:16:53.000 Are you going to be able to feed my babies?

01:16:58.000 There's a bunch of videos from a few days ago that this is all nonsense.

01:17:02.000 All AI generated.

01:17:03.000 That's interesting.

01:17:04.000 Wow, that right there?

01:17:04.000 That's what I saw.

01:17:05.000 That would be a dope podcast studio to put in the middle of nowhere.

01:17:10.000 I'm not going to say that that's necessarily fake, but it's not a house that someone could live in that's like a couch.

01:17:16.000 It's a suicide pod, Eddie.

01:17:17.000 Yeah, it's a little drug den.

01:17:20.000 Yeah, that's exactly what I saw.

01:17:21.000 And it's like a little five-minute mini-documentary commercial.

01:17:25.000 They go deep into it.

01:17:26.000 Yeah, they got you.

01:17:27.000 Well, they get you, man.

01:17:28.000 These AI things are nuts, man.

01:17:30.000 I haven't been fooled yet.

01:17:31.000 Yeah, I've seen AI things with my own voice on them.

01:17:35.000 I'm like, wow, this is crazy.

01:17:36.000 And I know it's fake.

01:17:37.000 You know, speaking of fakery, when you had Mel Gibson on your podcast the other day...

01:17:44.000 He brought up the Shroud of Turin.

01:17:46.000 And I always thought that was fake.

01:17:47.000 What is that?

01:17:48.000 The Shroud, it's like the cloth that Jesus was buried in and left an image of it.

01:17:54.000 And in the 80s, like 1988, they did carbon dating on it.

01:17:57.000 And they go, oh, it's fake.

01:17:58.000 See that?

01:18:01.000 Yeah, it literally has the image of Jesus burned into it somehow or another.

01:18:06.000 I never looked into it.

01:18:07.000 I just figured it was fake.

01:18:08.000 But listening to you and Mel Gibson talk about it, I'm like, what?

01:18:12.000 It's real?

01:18:12.000 Well, apparently it's a lot older than they assumed when they did the first testing.

01:18:18.000 And one of the problems is that there's cross-contamination.

01:18:21.000 There's also been repairs to it.

01:18:23.000 But they did subsequent testing, and they found that it was like 2,000.

01:18:27.000 Plus years old.

01:18:28.000 Yeah, and the one thing, it's the most studied artifact ever.

01:18:34.000 Like particle physicists, nuclear engineers, they all studied it, and some of them, some believe in it, some don't believe in it, but they all agree on one thing.

01:18:44.000 No one knows.

01:18:46.000 How they did it.

01:18:47.000 Right. There's no paint.

01:18:48.000 There's no paint.

01:18:49.000 There's no dye.

01:18:50.000 So, dude, all this week, dude, all day, I'm just watching documentary after podcast on this shit, and it's fucking mind-blowing.

01:18:58.000 Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

01:18:59.000 It's mind-blowing.

01:18:59.000 If it turns out that they can't figure out how anyone could ever do it.

01:19:05.000 Like, if no one has come up with a theory of how to do that today, that's where it gets really interesting.

01:19:11.000 Because it wasn't paint, and it wasn't dye, and it wasn't burned in.

01:19:14.000 They all agree on that.

01:19:15.000 It wasn't burned in.

01:19:16.000 They all agree it's a mystery.

01:19:17.000 But then the skeptics say, just because we don't know how it was done doesn't make it real, which is a good point.

01:19:24.000 But then the other side's like, dude, all these scientists have no idea how they faked it.

01:19:29.000 It's got to be real.

01:19:30.000 So it's all about how you look at it.

01:19:32.000 I lean on the side to be real.

01:19:33.000 There's a nuclear engineer.

01:19:35.000 There's a nuclear engineer.

01:19:36.000 You can go on YouTube.

01:19:37.000 His name is Robert Rucker.

01:19:40.000 Watch his breakdown.

01:19:42.000 This guy's a nuclear dude.

01:19:43.000 He's breaking down the photo.

01:19:45.000 It's insane because it's a negative image on a non-photographic material.

01:19:51.000 It's linen.

01:19:52.000 And then it turns out...

01:19:55.000 Like, if you look at it with the naked eye, it's white, and then you see the image of the face is kind of like yellow.

01:19:59.000 You can barely see it.

01:20:01.000 But in, like, 1898, some photographer took a picture of it, and then flipped, and then looked at the negative, and then all of a sudden, in the negative, the whole body appears, front and back.

01:20:12.000 Because he was buried, like, with a...

01:20:14.000 Did you see the images, James?

01:20:15.000 He was buried with the sheet under him, and it went around his head.

01:20:19.000 That's the back of him.

01:20:21.000 Yeah, the right one's the back and the left one's the front.

01:20:24.000 That's crazy.

01:20:25.000 No one knows how they did it.

01:20:26.000 No scientists.

01:20:27.000 The holes where the wrist would be nailed.

01:20:29.000 Yeah, it's fucking crazy.

01:20:31.000 That was the thing with Jesus with me.

01:20:33.000 It's very hard.

01:20:34.000 It was always very hard to believe in Jesus.

01:20:36.000 I'm like, dude, the resurrection, that's a hard one to wrap your brain around, right?

01:20:40.000 I could believe that he existed.

01:20:41.000 I could believe that he got crucified.

01:20:43.000 A lot of people got crucified.

01:20:44.000 But the resurrection was always the thing that kept me from really believing in Jesus.

01:20:48.000 I'm like, there's no way the resurrection was real.

01:20:51.000 But even if this is real, Eddie, it doesn't mean he was resurrected, right?

01:20:54.000 It just means he was crucified and he was an actual real man.

01:20:56.000 No, the thing is, is how...

01:20:58.000 The image got on...

01:21:00.000 The people that believe that it's real believe that when he was resurrected, some kind of ultraviolet radiation, some kind of burst made that image.

01:21:09.000 Oh, gotcha.

01:21:10.000 Because that image has never been on any other shroud.

01:21:13.000 People get buried in shrouds all the time.

01:21:15.000 There's never an image like that.

01:21:16.000 Pretty crazy.

01:21:17.000 And the crazy thing is the blood, there's no image under the blood.

01:21:21.000 So the blood was there first, and then the image is after.

01:21:26.000 It's crazy shit.

01:21:28.000 Dude, I'm like, I went deep down a rabbit all week just watching the skeptics, the scientists, particle physicists.

01:21:36.000 They have no idea how the fuck that image got on the front and back?

01:21:42.000 The back of them, too?

01:21:44.000 It's pretty weird.

01:21:45.000 Did you see the thing?

01:21:47.000 It's crazy, dude.

01:21:48.000 It's crazy.

01:21:49.000 Apparently there's some structures underneath the pyramids they just found.

01:21:52.000 Yeah, we were talking about that the other day.

01:21:53.000 How have they not looked at that before?

01:21:55.000 Well, what the fuck?

01:21:56.000 They don't know whether or not that's legit or whether these guys are jumping to conclusions.

01:21:59.000 A lot of people are calling bullshit and saying they jumped to conclusions.

01:22:02.000 A lot of people are saying that it really, you can't tell from those images, like what they drew in the 3D image where they drew everything and made a model of it.

01:22:13.000 They're doing a lot of guessing.

01:22:15.000 So they're going to do more testing, though.

01:22:18.000 There's definitely something under there.

01:22:19.000 Something is under there.

01:22:21.000 Something's under there, and it's massive.

01:22:23.000 And if these guys are correct that it goes down two kilometers, help me explain that.

01:22:30.000 Explain that with any conventional wisdom.

01:22:32.000 That's more than a mile into the Earth.

01:22:35.000 That's fucking nuts.

01:22:37.000 What does that mean?

01:22:39.000 Who did that and what was the purpose of it?

01:22:41.000 Because there's a guy named Christopher Dunn that thinks that the entire Giza pyramid, the big one, the Great Pyramid, was a power plant.

01:22:48.000 And he has this whole schematic that he mapped out.

01:22:51.000 Like, this is how you would generate hydrogen.

01:22:53.000 You would have something underneath the surface, underneath the ground, that was causing a vibration, a pounding.

01:23:00.000 And then this reverberation, this vibration would go through the entire building because it was all made out of limestone.

01:23:07.000 And then they had these channels, these paths, that they would fill with chemicals.

01:23:12.000 And they would go into what's called the king's chamber.

01:23:15.000 and this porous limestone that would allow the chemicals to leap through, to leach through and that would create hydrogen.

01:23:20.000 God damn.

01:23:21.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm doing, I'm butchering it.

01:23:22.000 I'm sorry, Mr.

01:23:23.000 Dunn. But if you listen to his take on it, and he's an engineer, he explains why the pathways and everything, this is exactly how you would do it if it was some sort of a power plant.

01:23:33.000 But whatever it is, it's like, I don't think that it's a tomb.

01:23:38.000 Remember your bit where you said...

01:23:42.000 I bet people used to be really smart, but the dumb people just outfucked the smart people.

01:23:47.000 Pen the one at a staggering pace.

01:23:49.000 Remember that shit?

01:23:50.000 Man, I mean, the pyramids, for sure, are a mystery.

01:23:55.000 Like, how the fuck do they build those?

01:23:56.000 And now, finding out what's underneath them, like, fuck, who knows?

01:24:00.000 Gobekli Tepli.

01:24:01.000 There's all these mysterious architecture everywhere.

01:24:06.000 But it's...

01:24:07.000 Everywhere. Everywhere.

01:24:10.000 Everywhere. Every city.

01:24:11.000 Like, these cathedrals.

01:24:13.000 Like, think about it.

01:24:13.000 Power tools were invented in the 1890s.

01:24:16.000 And they're talking about these insane cathedrals all over the world.

01:24:19.000 Carved out of stone.

01:24:21.000 With no power tools?

01:24:23.000 Right. How the fuck did they build?

01:24:25.000 Have you ever seen that one in India?

01:24:27.000 There's a few of them in India, but there's one that's all carved out of stone.

01:24:32.000 They didn't bring any rocks there.

01:24:34.000 They don't know where the stone went.

01:24:37.000 It's all insanely intricate and carved out of stone and fucking massive.

01:24:42.000 And they're everywhere, dude.

01:24:44.000 South America, Asia, China.

01:24:46.000 Look at that.

01:24:47.000 Look at that.

01:24:47.000 Bro, they carved that out of solid stone.

01:24:50.000 They might have just been bored as fuck, though.

01:24:52.000 Look how tiny the people are down there.

01:24:53.000 There's not shit to do better than that.

01:24:55.000 Bro, do you know how long that would take?

01:24:56.000 Yeah. Yeah, hundreds of years, they don't have shit to do.

01:24:58.000 Look how spectacular the craftsmanship is.

01:25:02.000 Spectacular. And no one knows how old that is.

01:25:05.000 It's like, take a guess.

01:25:06.000 So, back to your bit.

01:25:09.000 People used to...

01:25:11.000 It's probably accurate.

01:25:13.000 Oh, Molly McCann's getting choked.

01:25:15.000 Shit. She needs to win bad.

01:25:16.000 Dude, have you heard...

01:25:18.000 Oh, she's getting choked.

01:25:19.000 Yeah, she's getting choked.

01:25:20.000 Well, the hands aren't locked yet.

01:25:21.000 She has a two-on-one on the support.

01:25:23.000 Right. She keeps turning.

01:25:24.000 She's got a good grip on that shoulder cap, though.

01:25:27.000 Yeah. Oh, now she's fucked.

01:25:30.000 Now she's fucked.

01:25:30.000 She looks fucked.

01:25:31.000 Now she's fucked.

01:25:31.000 She's out of it.

01:25:33.000 She's out of it.

01:25:34.000 Oh! But it wasn't good that she had her hand underneath the jaw that easily.

01:25:40.000 She only got 40 seconds.

01:25:41.000 Whenever she fights, the crowd's just cheering and she's getting beat up.

01:25:44.000 Well, she's so tough.

01:25:46.000 She's so tough and she's such a gamer.

01:25:48.000 It's just not enough.

01:25:49.000 Oh, that's deep.

01:25:50.000 Oh, that's deep.

01:25:51.000 That's it.

01:25:53.000 That's over.

01:25:53.000 That's it.

01:25:54.000 She's lost, what, four out of five now?

01:25:56.000 Yeah, if that proves to be true and there really are these massive structures underneath the pyramid, they've got to change everything.

01:26:04.000 Dude, there's past civilizations that were super highly advanced.

01:26:08.000 There's got to be.

01:26:09.000 You know what I have a hard time getting into, but every now and then I'll dive into it.

01:26:14.000 Giants. Giants too, dude.

01:26:16.000 Giants. That's another one.

01:26:17.000 There's a lot of them moving all that shit.

01:26:19.000 Well, I don't know about that because I think you need a lot more than giants to move those fucking stones.

01:26:23.000 You need some kind of crazy technology because giants don't explain the engineering.

01:26:27.000 It doesn't explain the precision that was involved.

01:26:30.000 Whatever they did, they were moving 80-ton stones from 500 miles away and through the mountains and there's no roads and no one knows how they did it.

01:26:39.000 There's no explanation.

01:26:40.000 Did your Instagram algorithm fuck you up with the...

01:26:42.000 The giant AI videos.

01:26:44.000 Oh yeah, I saw those.

01:26:45.000 Giant guys.

01:26:47.000 Huge, 70-foot dudes carrying giant stones, like jacked, shredded.

01:26:53.000 There's a lot of reports throughout the ages of giant human beings.

01:26:58.000 Look, what's a giant?

01:27:00.000 Nine feet tall, ten feet tall.

01:27:01.000 That's a fucking giant.

01:27:02.000 Like a race of nine foot, ten feet tall people, and there's all these stories about bones that were giant bones that got transported to the Smithsonian, but they covered it up.

01:27:10.000 And I assume they don't live long because they're They're so big, so they probably just eventually fell off.

01:27:14.000 I think Robert Wadlow was 8'11".

01:27:18.000 He's on record the tallest.

01:27:20.000 Right. He had a serious disease.

01:27:22.000 Now, imagine a foot taller than that guy jacked, but just a different kind of human being.

01:27:28.000 Bro. Have you heard of the little season that's in the Bible?

01:27:31.000 They talk about the little season.

01:27:32.000 No. Let me get a Coke.

01:27:33.000 Well, in the Bible, it talks about...

01:27:35.000 He didn't get you a Coke, huh?

01:27:37.000 I asked you when you were leaving to get a Coke.

01:27:39.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:27:41.000 Does anyone want any of you?

01:27:42.000 No, I'm good.

01:27:43.000 In the Bible, apparently, you know...

01:27:46.000 Your average Christian thinks tribulation is coming, right?

01:27:49.000 Jesus is going to eventually come, right?

01:27:51.000 Tribulation, we're going to be judged, right?

01:27:53.000 And then there's going to be a 1,000 year millennial where Jesus returns and rules for 1,000 years and all the resurrected apostles are going to be kings and they're going to rule this realm that we're in.

01:28:05.000 That's what the tribulation, Jesus returns, 1,000 year millennial.

01:28:09.000 This is in the Bible.

01:28:10.000 And then after the 1,000 years, and then during those 1,000 years, There's a guy named Paul Stobbs I had on my podcast.

01:28:18.000 He told me all about this.

01:28:19.000 He's on YouTube.

01:28:21.000 Understanding Conspiracies on YouTube.

01:28:23.000 Paul Stobbs.

01:28:24.000 He's amazing.

01:28:25.000 He's talking about...

01:28:26.000 So that's what we're waiting for.

01:28:28.000 Jesus returned.

01:28:29.000 He rules for a thousand years.

01:28:31.000 He's the king of this earth.

01:28:33.000 And then while those thousand years are going on, Satan is chained.

01:28:40.000 To the lake of fire.

01:28:41.000 So there's no Satan.

01:28:42.000 It's just Jesus and his apostles ruling.

01:28:45.000 And then after the thousand years, this is called the little satanic season.

01:28:49.000 It's in the Bible, too.

01:28:50.000 I checked, Doc.

01:28:51.000 The little season where Jesus lets Satan go, and then Satan rules this earth, and he influences all the nations.

01:29:00.000 And it's called the little satanic season.

01:29:03.000 And the purpose of that is to test people.

01:29:09.000 There's a theory.

01:29:10.000 There's a theory that he already ruled for it.

01:29:13.000 He came back in the apostles' lifetime and ruled.

01:29:16.000 They already did that, a thousand-year millennial.

01:29:18.000 And now we're in the little season right now.

01:29:20.000 Doesn't it seem like Satan is, like...

01:29:23.000 Influencing all the nations?

01:29:24.000 Doesn't it seem like an evil world?

01:29:26.000 Well, it seems like evil has always been a part of the human race.

01:29:29.000 There's always been people committing genocide.

01:29:32.000 There's always been evil.

01:29:33.000 There's always been people that justify murder for money.

01:29:37.000 Bombings of fucking apartment buildings.

01:29:39.000 I sent them a link, like a two-minute video.

01:29:44.000 Jamie, can you play this real quick?

01:29:45.000 This guy explains.

01:29:46.000 It's really...

01:29:47.000 And then you'll see all the structures.

01:29:48.000 So that explains.

01:29:50.000 So there's a theory.

01:29:51.000 There's a theory that it explains all these structures that were built by angels.

01:29:56.000 Well, you've got to wonder when you get back to that Zachariah Sitchin stuff.

01:30:00.000 Because one of the things about this whole Anunnaki thing was that they were giants.

01:30:04.000 Yes. And the big theories are that the giants bred with human beings, which probably means some sort of genetic engineering, like taking existing primates and turning them into human beings.

01:30:16.000 Yeah. Yeah.

01:30:17.000 I mean, those are the most fun.

01:30:21.000 Those are the most fun.

01:30:22.000 The idea that we're visited by an alien, an alien race, and this alien race is far superior, and that they used us as slaves to mine for gold.

01:30:29.000 Those are the most fun theories.

01:30:32.000 Did you get that link?

01:30:33.000 Yes. Well, it's 22 minutes long.

01:30:36.000 No, just play like two minutes.

01:30:37.000 I know.

01:30:37.000 I'm trying to find a good spot.

01:30:38.000 No, right in the...

01:30:39.000 Right. It's right.

01:30:39.000 What is their mechanism supposed to be?

01:30:41.000 Start traveling through space.

01:30:44.000 Oh, no.

01:30:44.000 Okay. So, right at one minute.

01:30:47.000 Right at like one minute.

01:30:48.000 You're right.

01:30:48.000 Like one...

01:30:49.000 It's just showing videos, though.

01:30:50.000 No, no, no.

01:30:50.000 But there's talking over it.

01:30:51.000 There's a narration over it.

01:30:53.000 Okay. So, try it now.

01:30:54.000 I'm like, Paul, why are you doing this?

01:30:55.000 Just stop.

01:30:56.000 Stop it.

01:30:57.000 It's clearly like this is too much right now.

01:30:59.000 Just stop.

01:31:00.000 Yeah. You just kept...

01:31:02.000 Tumbling me.

01:31:03.000 It just kept hitting.

01:31:05.000 I thoroughly loved it.

01:31:08.000 I've talked about it to 100 people.

01:31:11.000 Everybody I know, I'm like, there's a theory out there, and then I have no clue what I'm talking about.

01:31:18.000 Fast forward a little bit more.

01:31:20.000 This video is called The Little Season Theory Number One.

01:31:25.000 And the YouTube channel is Understanding Conspiracies, the little season theory number one.

01:31:29.000 It's just so good.

01:31:30.000 He has no idea what he's talking about, though, too.

01:31:32.000 No, just start it right there.

01:31:34.000 This is such an Eddie Bravo subject.

01:31:36.000 Today, to walk me through this...

01:31:38.000 Here we go.

01:31:39.000 Okay, I'll try and cover most bases.

01:31:40.000 Sounds like Bryce Mitchell talking about it.

01:31:41.000 I'm not going to be able to thoroughly explain every single nuance today in, like, two hours.

01:31:46.000 It's just not going to happen.

01:31:48.000 What I'll try my best to do in this talk is give...

01:31:51.000 A foundational overview of most of the talking points involved around this theory, and it's a working theory.

01:31:57.000 Let's bear that in mind.

01:31:58.000 We're still figuring things out.

01:31:59.000 There's multiple options for certain sections of this theory where it could have gone, so I'll try my best to relay as much as I can.

01:32:06.000 But the basic premise to work off here is that what most modern Christians are waiting for today is the return of Jesus Christ after the Tribulation.

01:32:16.000 And we all have our eyes on the signs.

01:32:19.000 We're trying to discern the signs around us, trying to determine who the Antichrist will be, what the mark of the beast will be, all of those things.

01:32:28.000 We're kind of looking for them and waiting for those signs to happen, which will be the signs of the coming of the Son of Man in the clouds, which will be tribulation, judgment, and then, obviously, a millennial reign is what people are waiting for, and people get to live.

01:32:44.000 With Christ for a thousand years, as it says in Revelation 20. So people are pretty adamant we're living in that time.

01:32:51.000 We're living in the time just before tribulation.

01:32:54.000 It's just around the corner.

01:32:55.000 It's just about to happen.

01:32:57.000 That's what people are pretty adamant where we're at.

01:32:59.000 That's the mainstream thought of not only conspiracy Christians, but just mainstream churchianity.

01:33:04.000 That is the view of modern Christians.

01:33:07.000 We are in that time.

01:33:08.000 There have always been other views out there which say, you know, well, you know, it's a spiritual kingdom and we're living in it now, you know, and that goes on forever and ever and there's no physical kingdom and all these type of things.

01:33:19.000 You have amillennialists who believe that type of thing.

01:33:23.000 What this theory says kind of blows it all out of the water.

01:33:26.000 It's a completely new take on the situation.

01:33:29.000 There has been a worldview called praetorism which was created a while ago in the 1600s by...

01:33:36.000 I think it was.

01:33:37.000 People say it was a Jesuit.

01:33:39.000 It may have been a Jesuit, but this theory we have today is not praetorism, classically so-called.

01:33:46.000 It's kind of something else.

01:33:48.000 And a lot of people who don't like this idea will attack praetorism and think that's what we're talking about.

01:33:56.000 Most praetorists, even they believe it's a spiritual kingdom.

01:33:59.000 We're not saying that here.

01:34:01.000 This is...

01:34:02.000 We're talking about a real, physical, tangible thousand years where Christ reigned on earth.

01:34:07.000 This theory posits it's all already happened.

01:34:10.000 We're not living in the times just before tribulation.

01:34:13.000 We're living after the thousand year reign of Christ.

01:34:17.000 He's already been on earth.

01:34:19.000 He has reigned for a thousand years on earth with his resurrected saints and the elect who survived through tribulation.

01:34:26.000 Wouldn't there be a record of that?

01:34:28.000 Doesn't it make sense that Christians would document that?

01:34:32.000 He goes over like, why?

01:34:35.000 If there was a record and we knew, then this wouldn't be a test.

01:34:39.000 There wouldn't be a reason for the little season.

01:34:41.000 The little satanic season.

01:34:42.000 He let Satan out.

01:34:44.000 He unchained him.

01:34:45.000 There's a painting of Lucifer.

01:34:48.000 And he looks just like the fucking...

01:34:50.000 Statue of Liberty.

01:34:52.000 And he's got a chain, like a shackle around his ankle with a broken chain.

01:34:56.000 And it's a famous painting of Lucifer.

01:34:58.000 And he's like this, right?

01:34:59.000 And then you look at the Statue of Liberty.

01:35:01.000 That's not a woman.

01:35:03.000 That's a dude.

01:35:04.000 And it's got a fucking shackle around its ankle with a broken chain.

01:35:12.000 Statue of Liberty has a shackle around a tackle?

01:35:14.000 With a broken chain, just like the famous...

01:35:16.000 Really? Find the painting of Lucifer.

01:35:17.000 No, no, you go find out.

01:35:18.000 Just punch in Lucifer, Statue of Liberty.

01:35:21.000 So much fun.

01:35:23.000 The Statue of Liberty is not a chick.

01:35:26.000 That's not a chick.

01:35:27.000 That's not a chick.

01:35:28.000 That's a trans dude.

01:35:29.000 I just thought you had a strong jaw.

01:35:31.000 Strong jaw and some...

01:35:33.000 Nose. You know, some boobs.

01:35:34.000 Man boobs.

01:35:35.000 Look at that.

01:35:35.000 That's a painting of Lucifer.

01:35:37.000 Whoa. Damn.

01:35:39.000 And you think that's a chick?

01:35:40.000 Go to the full pain.

01:35:41.000 It could be France just trolling us, though.

01:35:43.000 Look at the chain.

01:35:44.000 He's got a...

01:35:45.000 Damn, Lucifer's dick is gone.

01:35:46.000 He's got the Harvey Weinstein.

01:35:48.000 Go to the...

01:35:49.000 There's a chain.

01:35:50.000 Look at it right there.

01:35:51.000 Whoa! Wow.

01:35:54.000 Look at that.

01:35:54.000 That's the foot of the Statue of Liberty.

01:35:57.000 Broken chain with a shackle.

01:35:59.000 But Jesus...

01:36:00.000 I mean, Satan has two arms up in there.

01:36:02.000 Yeah. It's mean.

01:36:04.000 I don't know.

01:36:05.000 This is just crazy conspiracy.

01:36:06.000 The chain is really identical.

01:36:08.000 It's basically the Elon Musk.

01:36:09.000 My heart goes out to you.

01:36:11.000 Yo, yo, yo.

01:36:12.000 I'm going to say this.

01:36:13.000 Dude, Jesus is Lord.

01:36:16.000 That is going to be still framed somewhere on that.

01:36:17.000 I'm all in, dude.

01:36:19.000 I'm all in.

01:36:19.000 I'm all in with all this.

01:36:21.000 With the shroud of turn, I'm all in, man.

01:36:24.000 Christ is king.

01:36:25.000 I'll put conveniently crop the image to make a false point.

01:36:28.000 Oh, in that image.

01:36:29.000 Yeah. And that right there.

01:36:30.000 They look pretty fucking similar.

01:36:32.000 Eh. No?

01:36:34.000 Eh, two arms, one arm.

01:36:36.000 Look at the chin!

01:36:37.000 A dude with an arm up in the air.

01:36:38.000 I mean, they modeled it off of something.

01:36:40.000 They didn't just create it out of thin air usually, too.

01:36:42.000 You think that's a chick?

01:36:44.000 No. No chicks have a big-ass bicep before.

01:36:46.000 The Statue of Liberty, the arm is huge.

01:36:48.000 Look at that forearm.

01:36:49.000 That's a jacked forearm.

01:36:50.000 Look at the fucking hands.

01:36:51.000 Yeah, it's a dude's hand, a dude's arm, a dude's face.

01:36:54.000 Dude's nose.

01:36:55.000 Dude's nose.

01:36:56.000 Yeah. Statue of Liberty doesn't look like a guy.

01:36:58.000 But it does look like it kind of has boobs.

01:37:00.000 And he's holding up a torch.

01:37:02.000 A torch.

01:37:03.000 Lucifer, that's the god of...

01:37:04.000 Is there boobs in the Statue of Liberty?

01:37:06.000 Like legit boobs?

01:37:07.000 Get a full view of the Statue of Liberty.

01:37:09.000 She's cheeked up.

01:37:10.000 Did they give her some implants later in the day?

01:37:13.000 On a Thursday afternoon.

01:37:14.000 Did they pump out the copper?

01:37:16.000 Did they get under the copper and heat it up and push it out a little bit?

01:37:19.000 Yeah, I've never seen it close up, man.

01:37:20.000 I've never seen the boobs.

01:37:21.000 That thing does look trans now that we look at it.

01:37:23.000 Now that we look at it.

01:37:24.000 France is like, ah!

01:37:25.000 It could be a key in a Tesla.

01:37:27.000 It could be a key in a Tesla right now.

01:37:29.000 Okay, so here's the full image of it.

01:37:31.000 Yeah, it doesn't look like it has boobs.

01:37:33.000 That does not look like...

01:37:34.000 Well, that right one looks like a little bit of a tit.

01:37:37.000 That looks like a tit.

01:37:37.000 Could be gyno, though.

01:37:39.000 Could be gyno.

01:37:40.000 Could be gyno.

01:37:41.000 Ancient steroids.

01:37:44.000 No chick, man.

01:37:45.000 Goddamn, Eddie, why you fucked that up for me?

01:37:48.000 I don't know, man.

01:37:48.000 Pretty crazy.

01:37:49.000 I don't know.

01:37:50.000 I've been going down rabbit holes.

01:37:52.000 France wanted the Statue of Liberty back.

01:37:54.000 Yeah. That looks like a chick.

01:37:56.000 He said, give it back to us.

01:37:57.000 You guys are bad.

01:38:00.000 Look at that.

01:38:02.000 And then the lady who's a White House press secretary is like...

01:38:05.000 You're lucky we're not speaking.

01:38:06.000 You guys would be speaking German if it wasn't for the United States.

01:38:10.000 Yeah, that press secretary's a savage, huh?

01:38:12.000 Every day you wake up, it's like, what now?

01:38:14.000 But we needed France to beat them in World War I. That's a fact, too.

01:38:18.000 France lost, like, some insane percentage of their population in World War I. I think they lost 25% of their male population, their 18 to 25, or 18 to 30 male population in World War I, and another 25% in World War II.

01:38:33.000 They paid heavy.

01:38:35.000 No one paid a heftier price than Russia.

01:38:37.000 No one talks about it.

01:38:38.000 They don't teach that in schools.

01:38:39.000 Russia got fucked up.

01:38:40.000 They lost 20 plus million.

01:38:42.000 Yeah. I mean, Russia's been through so much.

01:38:45.000 Just the amount of people that got starved by Stalin.

01:38:49.000 France provided crucial aid to the American colonists during the Revolutionary War, including military support, financial assistance, and naval power, ultimately contributing significantly to American victory and independence.

01:38:58.000 Yeah, they've helped us through everything.

01:39:00.000 Yeah. So.

01:39:02.000 I think it's stupid that we hate France.

01:39:04.000 I don't get it.

01:39:05.000 I think it's stupid that we hate Canada, too.

01:39:07.000 I don't get that either.

01:39:08.000 Canada needs to get their shit together, though.

01:39:09.000 Yeah, they have terrible government, but the Canadian people are awesome.

01:39:13.000 Yeah, Canadians are awesome.

01:39:14.000 Yeah, but the new guy is more of the same.

01:39:16.000 Oh, really?

01:39:16.000 And then they have to have a vote.

01:39:17.000 And when they have a vote, then that Pierre Polivet guy...

01:39:20.000 Is he one of Fidel Castro's sons, too, or what?

01:39:22.000 No, he's not.

01:39:23.000 When is that vote?

01:39:23.000 He's a conservative.

01:39:24.000 They don't have the same thing over here.

01:39:26.000 It's November 4th.

01:39:27.000 With them, they get to decide when there's going to be a vote.

01:39:30.000 When they've had another vote?

01:39:31.000 They'll call it in three weeks.

01:39:33.000 Three weeks, they're going to have a vote.

01:39:34.000 I don't even know when or how.

01:39:35.000 I don't know how their system works up there.

01:39:37.000 They got a squirrely system up there.

01:39:39.000 And they just keep losing rights left and right.

01:39:42.000 I mean, what they did during the whole trucker convoy thing was nuts.

01:39:47.000 That was crazy.

01:39:48.000 Crazy. Like, full-on communist bullshit.

01:39:51.000 There's people still in jail.

01:39:53.000 Well, there's people that lost their bank account that only donated to the truckers.

01:39:57.000 That's wild.

01:39:57.000 That was crazy.

01:39:58.000 They froze their money.

01:39:59.000 That was kind of the start of, like, them stopping all the crazy shit.

01:40:04.000 Well, it's kind of a lot of people woke up.

01:40:06.000 The protests?

01:40:07.000 Yeah. Once the truckers did that and they started shutting bank accounts down.

01:40:10.000 You're fucking with real dudes.

01:40:11.000 Across all of North America, they were like, okay, maybe we should kind of take it easy.

01:40:15.000 Yeah, truckers are real dudes.

01:40:17.000 They're like, hold up.

01:40:18.000 Yeah. Hold the fuck up.

01:40:19.000 A lot of dudes who woke the fuck up because of that.

01:40:22.000 Thank God.

01:40:22.000 Yeah. Because they're so polite up there.

01:40:25.000 They're so nice and polite in Canada.

01:40:27.000 Till they're not.

01:40:28.000 Till they're not.

01:40:29.000 But it's easy to kind of get them thinking, this is the right thing to do.

01:40:33.000 Eh? Yeah.

01:40:34.000 You know, and then the next thing you know.

01:40:35.000 Have you seen the DMT red laser light thing?

01:40:39.000 I've heard about that.

01:40:40.000 Yo! I heard it's nuts.

01:40:41.000 Have you done it?

01:40:42.000 No, but I've seen a bunch of videos on it.

01:40:44.000 Apparently, if you do DMT and you shoot a red laser, I sent Jamie a video.

01:40:50.000 If you shoot a red laser, you see the matrix.

01:40:53.000 You see code.

01:40:54.000 Yeah. And everybody sees the same shit.

01:40:56.000 Really? Not only that, but if you get above the laser and you look down, you see layers of code.

01:41:03.000 Yes. Yes, check this out.

01:41:04.000 Chase Hughes, I just saw a video of him saying he saw it too.

01:41:07.000 Yeah, this is on Chase Hughes.

01:41:08.000 Is he a famous scientist or something?

01:41:10.000 No, he was just on the podcast though.

01:41:12.000 This guy was?

01:41:13.000 Yeah, he's a mind control expert that explains psyops and how they...

01:41:17.000 I've seen it on Instagram and I heard you and Danny talking about it, so you've done it.

01:41:21.000 Yeah, I saw it on Instagram and...

01:41:23.000 Flew Danny to my house right away.

01:41:26.000 Like, break this down for people because it got shared amongst my group.

01:41:31.000 And it's like, what the fuck?

01:41:34.000 Exactly. And that's the only question you're still going to have after you see it.

01:41:37.000 It doesn't answer any questions.

01:41:39.000 It just invites a lot more.

01:41:40.000 Yeah. Nothing else.

01:41:42.000 There's code.

01:41:43.000 Absolutely. There is code.

01:41:45.000 So the code's not like spinning there.

01:41:47.000 It's like it's literally they kind of written out static.

01:41:50.000 It's static.

01:41:51.000 I can move the laser up and down and see all of the letters.

01:41:56.000 But it's like three-dimensional, so I can get close to the wall.

01:42:00.000 I can look down inside of the laser that way, and I can look up in the laser that way.

01:42:06.000 What's your best guess at explaining that?

01:42:10.000 I would be a fool.

01:42:11.000 Okay. We can just leave it at that.

01:42:13.000 Can't somebody write the code down?

01:42:14.000 It's a universal consciousness that we're projecting.

01:42:16.000 They just discovered this.

01:42:18.000 Well, I bet some eggheads probably are right.

01:42:20.000 I know the guy who discovered it, man.

01:42:22.000 Really? I don't know him personally, but Brandon McCaffron, one of my black belts, he knows him personally.

01:42:26.000 He goes, dude, if you ever wanted to do your podcast, I could make, you know, I'm like, hell yeah.

01:42:31.000 Let's pay attention to this fight.

01:42:32.000 It's a great fight.

01:42:33.000 That was seeing the Matrix when you're on DMT with a red laser.

01:42:39.000 How crazy is that?

01:42:40.000 Any laser?

01:42:41.000 It's like a red laser.

01:42:43.000 There's a bunch of videos on YouTube.

01:42:45.000 Is it like a specific laser?

01:42:46.000 What if you do with a green laser?

01:42:48.000 I don't know.

01:42:48.000 I don't know, but there's video of a bunch of people.

01:42:51.000 That's just one dude.

01:42:52.000 That's like the most...

01:42:53.000 All the other guys are like stoner dudes.

01:42:55.000 You know what I mean?

01:42:56.000 I wanted to show this dude.

01:42:58.000 He seemed to have a little more intelligence a little bit.

01:43:03.000 Or a little believability.

01:43:05.000 But everybody sees the same shit.

01:43:08.000 They see the fucking Matrix.

01:43:10.000 The numbers, the code.

01:43:12.000 Isn't that fucking life-changing?

01:43:15.000 You saw that Tom Campbell interview that I did, right?

01:43:18.000 Yeah, I loved that one.

01:43:18.000 That was one of my favorite ones.

01:43:20.000 That one's nuts.

01:43:20.000 Yeah. That one's nuts.

01:43:22.000 When he's explaining to you that consciousness creates reality.

01:43:25.000 You know what?

01:43:26.000 I never really took the simulation theory seriously, but...

01:43:31.000 You know, I've always believed, like, Jesus is a new thing for me.

01:43:35.000 Like, the Shroud of Turin, I'm all in now with the Shroud of Turin.

01:43:39.000 But before that, I was like, I don't know about Jesus, maybe, but I believe in God, and I believe in a creator.

01:43:44.000 Like, whoever created this shit is God.

01:43:47.000 Here we go.

01:43:47.000 Right? And there must be code on how God created this.

01:43:52.000 Yeah. So that, you know, I think science, like the simulation guys, they're finding what God created.

01:43:59.000 Like, who else could?

01:44:01.000 Put this simulation together, but a god.

01:44:03.000 Who else?

01:44:04.000 Here's the craziest theory.

01:44:06.000 You know, AI is about to become sentient, and then they're going to do quantum computers with AI.

01:44:11.000 What if that's how Jesus comes back?

01:44:13.000 What if Jesus re-emerges as a created consciousness?

01:44:19.000 And he's on an app.

01:44:21.000 By that time, he'd probably be able to communicate to your fucking head.

01:44:26.000 I mean, they've already figured out how to put signals into people's heads, put voices in people's heads.

01:44:32.000 They can literally have things say things to you, or you hear voices in your head.

01:44:38.000 They have that technology.

01:44:40.000 And if quantum computing gets attached to AI, and then it figures out how to make better versions of itself, what does that mean?

01:44:47.000 But isn't that similar to MKUltra, what we're doing to compromise people?

01:44:51.000 Well, that's different.

01:44:52.000 How's it different though?

01:44:53.000 Because MKUltra, they were just trying to manipulate people with acid and they were doing all sorts of different psychedelic drugs and doing it on people without them knowing.

01:45:02.000 To get them to think crazy shit though, right?

01:45:03.000 But also trying to get them to manipulate them so they can get them to do things like try to kill the president or something like that.

01:45:09.000 Which they still do.

01:45:10.000 Yeah, they have to still do.

01:45:12.000 There's no way they stop doing that.

01:45:13.000 And I guarantee, if you could, if there is a conspiracy theory about that kid in Pennsylvania that tried to kill Trump, oh, went to the ground.

01:45:20.000 Gunner got him down.

01:45:22.000 Kevin's lost four.

01:45:23.000 I was last five.

01:45:24.000 He really needs this.

01:45:25.000 Put a triangle on him.

01:45:26.000 Kevin is a black belt, but not Gunner Nelson black belt.

01:45:28.000 Gunner Nelson's so legit.

01:45:30.000 Yeah. If he can get you scrambling on the ground, Kevin's in trouble.

01:45:33.000 Look at that.

01:45:34.000 Dude. Damn, if he opens his legs, he's got to put a grip together around that arm, right there.

01:45:41.000 If he put a grip around the arm, it...

01:45:43.000 Oh! Oh my god, he's hanging on that arm.

01:45:46.000 That can't be good for the shoulder.

01:45:47.000 It's over now.

01:45:48.000 He's not going to be able to hold on.

01:45:50.000 All he had to do was just grip, S-grip, under the armpit, and that was a wrap.

01:45:54.000 This is a tiring position, though, for Gunnar.

01:45:56.000 He's holding his entire body.

01:45:57.000 It's tiring for Kevin, too, though.

01:45:59.000 His legs are gassing out here, for sure.

01:46:01.000 And now he's out.

01:46:02.000 Gunnar's a weird one because he's not active.

01:46:04.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:46:05.000 Like, he doesn't fight a ton.

01:46:06.000 He's busy with his gym.

01:46:07.000 Oh, look at that another time.

01:46:08.000 Three years ago, I think, Joe.

01:46:09.000 It might be two, but maybe three.

01:46:11.000 It's going to be tough to smack Gunnar.

01:46:12.000 Yeah, he's getting in there.

01:46:13.000 Yeah, Gunnar's not scared to get in there.

01:46:15.000 No, he's not scared.

01:46:16.000 And eventually you're going to get tired.

01:46:16.000 Who gave Kevin Hall on his black belt?

01:46:18.000 Travis Luter.

01:46:19.000 Travis Luter.

01:46:20.000 Oh, shit, okay.

01:46:20.000 Yeah, he's a Texas boy.

01:46:22.000 Fort Worth fight was two years ago.

01:46:24.000 Two years ago.

01:46:24.000 Almost, exactly.

01:46:25.000 How old is he now, Gunnar?

01:46:27.000 He's got to be 36. Yeah.

01:46:30.000 He was so good when he was at the top of his game.

01:46:33.000 His jiu-jitsu was off the charts.

01:46:35.000 Yeah, considered one of the best jiu-jitsu players.

01:46:37.000 Beat Jeff Munson.

01:46:37.000 Remember that?

01:46:38.000 I forgot that one.

01:46:39.000 Munson was fucking huge.

01:46:42.000 Yeah, MMA-wise, he just never got over that hill like the top contenders.

01:46:47.000 He's just not active enough.

01:46:48.000 And his striking is just not the same level as the elite guys.

01:46:52.000 Although he does have a good style, that sort of karate.

01:46:54.000 His style's cool.

01:46:55.000 Robert Whittaker type style.

01:46:58.000 I think he just got busy.

01:47:00.000 Like, he has his school.

01:47:00.000 It's like in the side of a fucking mountain.

01:47:02.000 Is it?

01:47:03.000 Yeah. In Iceland.

01:47:05.000 He's an interesting dude, man.

01:47:06.000 Yeah. Super talented.

01:47:09.000 Remember, he was part of Conor's camp for a while there.

01:47:11.000 That's right.

01:47:12.000 Yeah. Oh, shit.

01:47:13.000 Can opener.

01:47:14.000 Old school.

01:47:16.000 I have always liked Gunnar Nilsson.

01:47:20.000 Yeah, this is...

01:47:21.000 Big Thor told me he rolled with Gunnar.

01:47:24.000 I know he's rolled with you, Gorn.

01:47:25.000 He said he got absolutely destroyed.

01:47:27.000 He said he rolled with Gunnar, and he couldn't understand it.

01:47:30.000 He was like, I understand Gorn because he's so big.

01:47:32.000 He's like, then I rolled with Gunnar Nelson.

01:47:33.000 He fucked me up, too.

01:47:34.000 I watched a video of it the other day.

01:47:36.000 Oh, really?

01:47:36.000 There's a video of Gunnar?

01:47:37.000 I mean, Thor just has no grappling experience.

01:47:41.000 Zero. Zero.

01:47:42.000 Who's Thor?

01:47:43.000 The Mountain.

01:47:44.000 The Mountain from Game of Thrones.

01:47:46.000 The giant dude.

01:47:46.000 He's like 6'9".

01:47:48.000 You know who's competing in jiu-jitsu now is that guy Martins.

01:47:51.000 Oh, Martins?

01:47:52.000 Yeah, Martins.

01:47:54.000 He did that one...

01:47:56.000 When I rolled with Thor, he was also there.

01:47:57.000 And he wrestled in high school, so he was a little bit more with it.

01:48:00.000 Better base.

01:48:01.000 He's been training jiu-jitsu and competed.

01:48:03.000 That's cool.

01:48:04.000 He just won his first tournament.

01:48:05.000 Good for him.

01:48:06.000 He's made a handful for him.

01:48:07.000 Imagine if Brian Shaw started getting into jiu-jitsu.

01:48:09.000 I taught him a private when he came here.

01:48:12.000 That was interesting.

01:48:13.000 What the fuck, dude?

01:48:15.000 That's a giant.

01:48:16.000 Yeah, he's a giant.

01:48:16.000 I made him drill Big Dan.

01:48:20.000 I was like, I'm not touching either one of you.

01:48:24.000 That's a good way to get hurt.

01:48:25.000 Look at that.

01:48:26.000 Oh, we lost it.

01:48:28.000 Scrambled. It's really greasy.

01:48:30.000 Got slippery.

01:48:31.000 Kevin has that X factor.

01:48:32.000 Oh, nice knee to the body.

01:48:33.000 That was a nice knee by Kevin.

01:48:35.000 That hurt.

01:48:35.000 This pace.

01:48:36.000 Oh, we dropped him.

01:48:37.000 It's over.

01:48:39.000 Six seconds to go.

01:48:40.000 He got some.

01:48:41.000 He got some.

01:48:41.000 Oh, man.

01:48:42.000 He's in trouble.

01:48:43.000 Two, one.

01:48:44.000 And... Let it go.

01:48:45.000 Oh, shit.

01:48:46.000 That was a big punch.

01:48:46.000 Oh, the haymaker at the end.

01:48:48.000 Uh-oh.

01:48:49.000 Gunnar's fucked up.

01:48:50.000 Damn, they let it go.

01:48:51.000 Oh, look at him.

01:48:51.000 He's wobbly.

01:48:52.000 Super fucked up.

01:48:53.000 He's wobbly.

01:48:54.000 They're not gonna stop it.

01:48:56.000 Oh, it's gonna start on the feet.

01:48:58.000 Gunnar's in trouble.

01:48:59.000 Gunnar's in trouble.

01:48:59.000 Yeah. Yeah, he's in trouble.

01:49:01.000 Good for Kevin.

01:49:01.000 He needs a win, man.

01:49:02.000 Yeah, he does.

01:49:03.000 It's been a while.

01:49:04.000 He just fights so often.

01:49:06.000 No one's more active than Kevin.

01:49:07.000 But this is 170, finally.

01:49:09.000 What's his losing streak?

01:49:10.000 Two? Lost four out of his last five.

01:49:11.000 I think he's lost three in a row.

01:49:13.000 The thing is, like, he's so much better at 70. I know he doesn't like the weight cut, but it's 70. He's so much better at 70. He's so tall and long and dangerous.

01:49:20.000 Remember, he beat Homeboy, who did the spinning back.

01:49:24.000 Joaquin Buckley.

01:49:24.000 Yeah, Joaquin Buckley.

01:49:25.000 Two in a row.

01:49:26.000 He lost two in a row?

01:49:27.000 Yeah, three out of four.

01:49:29.000 Hamza, and who else?

01:49:30.000 All four out of five.

01:49:30.000 Oh, Rene DeRitter.

01:49:32.000 He lost four out of five.

01:49:33.000 Yeah. The Redder vs.

01:49:36.000 Bo is gonna be interesting.

01:49:37.000 Fuck yeah, it is.

01:49:37.000 Bo better fucking wrestle, dude.

01:49:39.000 I'm gonna freak the fuck out.

01:49:40.000 Yeah. I was so impressed with what that guy did to Holland.

01:49:43.000 I was like, that's impressive.

01:49:45.000 Because he just manhandled him.

01:49:47.000 Yeah. Manhandled him.

01:49:48.000 His grappling is good.

01:49:49.000 He can't get it.

01:49:49.000 I'd train with him.

01:49:50.000 RDR, yeah.

01:49:51.000 Yeah. Gunnar looks like he's still in a little bit of trouble.

01:49:53.000 Yeah, RDR was a two-division champion at one championship.

01:49:56.000 Like, he's no punk.

01:49:57.000 If Bo Nickel gives this bad striking, I'm gonna freak the fuck out.

01:50:00.000 There we go.

01:50:01.000 Kevin Holland's fought seven times since Gunnar Nelson's last fight.

01:50:04.000 That's crazy.

01:50:05.000 Oh, uppercut.

01:50:06.000 He got him with that uppercut.

01:50:07.000 He also had a good grappling matchup.

01:50:09.000 Oh, nasty punches to the body by Holland.

01:50:11.000 He also went against Cade in one championship.

01:50:14.000 Just straight grappling.

01:50:15.000 Who did?

01:50:17.000 How'd that go?

01:50:18.000 He got submitted, I think.

01:50:20.000 If Gunnar lost, I don't know if he got submitted.

01:50:22.000 He's in trouble.

01:50:23.000 I didn't see that one.

01:50:26.000 Gunnar is not able to take Kevin down this round.

01:50:28.000 He's going to be in trouble.

01:50:34.000 And also, you've got to think, Kevin Holland's hungry right now.

01:50:37.000 Because he still wants to be a champion.

01:50:41.000 Yeah, that's tough.

01:50:42.000 At 70, though, he could do it.

01:50:44.000 He could do it at 70. He's just got to be super focused and stay at 70. This hopping up and down and getting losses at 85 against DeRitter's like 220.

01:50:55.000 But also being that active, it's tough to compete with the biggest guys.

01:50:58.000 It's just tough to be that active.

01:51:00.000 Right. And be a top guy.

01:51:02.000 He fought Koms at an 85?

01:51:03.000 Mm-hmm.

01:51:04.000 Yeah, man.

01:51:04.000 On like a three-hour notice.

01:51:06.000 Yeah, man.

01:51:07.000 That was when Nate Diaz and him were supposed to fight, but Hamzat came in eight pounds heavy, and Kevin Holland stepped up and said, I'll take it.

01:51:14.000 And Hamzat just fucking...

01:51:16.000 And Kevin was supposed to fight D-Rod, remember?

01:51:19.000 Yep. Which is a great fight.

01:51:23.000 Gunners are trying real hard for this takedown, man.

01:51:25.000 Burning off a lot of fuel.

01:51:28.000 Almost has it.

01:51:29.000 Almost has it.

01:51:31.000 If he would have kept stepping inside, he would have done it if he cut a circle a little bit better.

01:51:36.000 He's got to be fatigued right now.

01:51:38.000 You know, two plus minutes into the second and got beat up at the end of the first, which takes a lot out of you.

01:51:45.000 That's such a big factor.

01:51:47.000 You know, you think about perceived skills.

01:51:51.000 Oh, come on, Gunnar.

01:51:52.000 You think about perceived skills versus current level after a guy gets rocked.

01:51:57.000 You know, you think he's still the same guy that he was early in the fight, but when you get rocked, man.

01:52:02.000 Oh, bro, you're out of it.

01:52:02.000 Yeah. Well, look at Makachev and Olivera.

01:52:06.000 Like, he clipped him and then, like, immediately passed his guard and finished him.

01:52:09.000 Yep. Yep.

01:52:11.000 Or even Ankalaev and Pereira.

01:52:14.000 Second round, he gets rocked.

01:52:16.000 And then he's kind of not the same after that.

01:52:19.000 Trigger shy, yeah.

01:52:20.000 Much more defensive after that.

01:52:22.000 Forgot the game plan a little bit.

01:52:23.000 Kept his back to the cage.

01:52:24.000 Bro, I saw a good breakdown of Ankalaev's stand-up against Pereira.

01:52:28.000 It was very high level.

01:52:29.000 Super impressive.

01:52:30.000 Especially taking away the front hand.

01:52:33.000 He's doing this circular motion with his hand and taking away angles.

01:52:39.000 Apparently they run that rematch back.

01:52:40.000 Oh, we got him down.

01:52:41.000 Almost. Nice.

01:52:43.000 They're gonna run it back, I'm sure.

01:52:44.000 They have to.

01:52:45.000 That's the big fight in that division.

01:52:47.000 And if Pereira can come in healthy, he's...

01:52:50.000 Oh! Oh, we got him down.

01:52:51.000 But he's another one.

01:52:52.000 He's too active.

01:52:53.000 Too active.

01:52:54.000 But he's smart, too, because he's 36, 37. He's like, I gotta go, man.

01:52:57.000 I gotta make it as much money as possible.

01:52:59.000 He's done that.

01:53:00.000 He's become an all-time great in, you know, three years, which is crazy.

01:53:04.000 You give 10-8 first round?

01:53:06.000 Gotta be 10-8, right?

01:53:07.000 That's hard to say because Gunnar had him down for a while.

01:53:10.000 Yeah. You know, I mean...

01:53:12.000 He had him in Omoplata, too.

01:53:14.000 He did rock him at the end.

01:53:16.000 Yeah, I count those.

01:53:17.000 And unfortunately, they don't count.

01:53:19.000 Like, near submissions.

01:53:20.000 I think near submissions are big.

01:53:22.000 I'm with you, Eddie.

01:53:23.000 If they're close, it should be 10-8.

01:53:25.000 Like Oliveira versus Armand Sarukian.

01:53:28.000 I feel like Oliveira almost had him a couple times.

01:53:32.000 And what?

01:53:32.000 What did he have?

01:53:33.000 A Darce?

01:53:34.000 A Darce guillotine?

01:53:35.000 If it's cinched up, if you have something cinched up...

01:53:38.000 That's a lot.

01:53:39.000 The shame about that fight...

01:53:40.000 Even a triangle.

01:53:41.000 Yes. That's so close.

01:53:42.000 That fight should have been five rounds.

01:53:44.000 That's five rounds, Charles probably wins that.

01:53:46.000 Yeah, I think so too.

01:53:47.000 Maybe. I mean, who knows?

01:53:48.000 Who knows, but he would have a better chance.

01:53:50.000 But if you count near submissions as...

01:53:53.000 Like, much more points.

01:53:55.000 You get no credit.

01:53:56.000 You don't get credit like you do if you rock a guy.

01:53:58.000 But it is.

01:53:59.000 You're close to finishing a fight.

01:54:01.000 But to that same point, like with Alex Pierre defending 12 takedowns.

01:54:05.000 12 for 12, you get no fucking credit.

01:54:07.000 The guy attempted 12 takedowns.

01:54:09.000 You couldn't do it.

01:54:10.000 That guy gets no points.

01:54:12.000 Who should get credit?

01:54:13.000 The guy defend the takedown.

01:54:14.000 No! You don't get credit.

01:54:16.000 You get credit for, like, not getting hit?

01:54:19.000 Well, you get a little bit.

01:54:20.000 A little bit.

01:54:21.000 A little bit.

01:54:21.000 I don't think you should get credit for defense.

01:54:23.000 The big credit is the submission attempts.

01:54:26.000 Yeah, but offense.

01:54:27.000 You get points for offense, not defense.

01:54:29.000 He's going to it again.

01:54:30.000 Can you imagine you get points for escaping an arm bar?

01:54:32.000 Like, that would be retarded.

01:54:34.000 That'd be dope.

01:54:36.000 See, this is interesting, right?

01:54:37.000 Because Kevin was doing a lot of damage at the end of the first, but a lot of it was on the back.

01:54:43.000 And then here you got Gunnar, takes him down.

01:54:46.000 After unsuccessfully taking him down for like three minutes, and he's doing something.

01:54:50.000 He's on top.

01:54:51.000 Oh, he won this round.

01:54:52.000 Right. But nothing's happening.

01:54:54.000 Did he get it, really?

01:54:55.000 Yeah. You get a takedown?

01:54:57.000 Yeah, that wins the round.

01:54:57.000 But you know what I'm saying?

01:54:58.000 Like, nothing's happening.

01:54:59.000 He's not getting any damage.

01:55:00.000 Kevin didn't do anything.

01:55:01.000 True. Yeah.

01:55:02.000 So in that situation, nothing happened.

01:55:05.000 He took him down.

01:55:05.000 You give it to Gunner, for sure.

01:55:07.000 100%. Yeah.

01:55:08.000 But it's not as good as like a guy rocking you.

01:55:11.000 I know.

01:55:11.000 Right. Exactly.

01:55:13.000 There's a difference.

01:55:14.000 I feel like the whole scoring system is fucked.

01:55:16.000 Both those rounds are not 10-9s.

01:55:19.000 The second round's a 10-9.

01:55:20.000 First round, how is that a 10-9?

01:55:22.000 He almost knocked him out.

01:55:23.000 He barely survived.

01:55:24.000 They could have stopped him right at the end.

01:55:26.000 He got saved by the bell.

01:55:27.000 How is that not a 10-8?

01:55:28.000 When a guy gets dropped, it's automatically a 10-8.

01:55:31.000 Yes. The guy's in trouble, 10-8.

01:55:33.000 I think that's a good move.

01:55:35.000 When a guy gets dropped.

01:55:36.000 But then you've got fights where a guy gets dropped and gets up and drops the other guy.

01:55:41.000 And it evens out.

01:55:42.000 Yeah, I guess.

01:55:43.000 I think even rounds are okay.

01:55:45.000 I think they need a more comprehensive scoring system.

01:55:48.000 I think the whole 10-9 is crazy because we just took it from boxing.

01:55:51.000 And we're like, okay, that's an established point system for fighting.

01:55:55.000 But you're using it with something that has all these different elements.

01:55:58.000 Takedown, submission, octagon control.

01:56:02.000 There's so many more factors in an MMA fight.

01:56:05.000 And you've got to look at the people scoring it.

01:56:06.000 These judges, half of them don't know what the fuck they're looking at.

01:56:09.000 That's a good fight.

01:56:10.000 Moreno and Ursaig.

01:56:11.000 That Ursaig guy almost beat Pantoso.

01:56:14.000 We're doing EBI in Mexico City the next day.

01:56:17.000 So that's Saturday.

01:56:18.000 Next day, EBI 23, the featherweights with strikes.

01:56:22.000 We're bringing back strikes in EBI.

01:56:24.000 Ooh. Hell yeah.

01:56:25.000 Strikes or combat jiu-jitsu?

01:56:26.000 There's enough sub only.

01:56:27.000 Combat jiu-jitsu.

01:56:28.000 So slaps.

01:56:29.000 Yeah, combat jiu-jitsu.

01:56:30.000 It was born in EBI.

01:56:31.000 Can you punch the body?

01:56:32.000 You could strike to the body.

01:56:34.000 You could strike anywhere.

01:56:35.000 Punch. Not punch, strike, open hand, everywhere.

01:56:38.000 Yeah. That's next Sunday on UFC Fight Pass.

01:56:43.000 Are guys practicing their body strikes?

01:56:45.000 Are they, like, working on that?

01:56:46.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:56:48.000 They should.

01:56:50.000 Kevin's so dangerous.

01:56:51.000 He's hitting him with hard body shots, man.

01:56:53.000 Oh, elbow over the top.

01:56:55.000 Oh, knee.

01:56:56.000 Good knee.

01:57:00.000 Kevin's got to go for broke.

01:57:01.000 Because he probably won the first round.

01:57:03.000 I think he won the first round for sure.

01:57:05.000 Second round, no.

01:57:07.000 So this is it.

01:57:08.000 And Kevin needs to win.

01:57:10.000 He's landing some uppercuts.

01:57:11.000 Oh, Gunnar's in deep.

01:57:13.000 Gunnar's in deep.

01:57:14.000 Oh, he's out of it.

01:57:17.000 Isn't his hands locked anymore on the buddy?

01:57:20.000 Oh, he got him.

01:57:21.000 He got him.

01:57:22.000 He got him.

01:57:22.000 Full mount.

01:57:23.000 Full mount.

01:57:24.000 Oh, shit.

01:57:25.000 Here it is.

01:57:26.000 Kevin's in trouble.

01:57:28.000 Gunnar's in full mount.

01:57:30.000 Third round.

01:57:30.000 Grapevine in the legs.

01:57:32.000 He rushed in the back take in the first round, though.

01:57:34.000 He should take his time from here.

01:57:35.000 Yep. But he's got time.

01:57:36.000 Take his feet off the cage.

01:57:39.000 The fact that he's not digging for underhooks right now is kind of scary.

01:57:43.000 Well, he should have took his feet off the cage.

01:57:44.000 Like, why won't you immediately go for the underhook?

01:57:48.000 Yeah. What was your plan in the mound?

01:57:52.000 Underhooks had at least take his feet off the cage.

01:57:53.000 That's what got him out.

01:57:55.000 You're not supposed to dig your toes in the face.

01:57:58.000 Gordon, if you were in the mount right there, you would immediately grab the underhook and underjack to like an arm triangle, right?

01:58:04.000 Yeah, underhook.

01:58:05.000 Well, the first thing is to circle his feet off the cage.

01:58:07.000 You're saying circle him to the center of the octagon?

01:58:10.000 Yes. Because the bridge off the cage gives you immensely...

01:58:14.000 Correct. Totally, but besides that, underhook, underjack, arm triangle, right?

01:58:23.000 Oh, damn.

01:58:24.000 Look at that.

01:58:25.000 He's going to knock him out with that.

01:58:26.000 Those are good.

01:58:26.000 He should really...

01:58:27.000 Knocked Jacare out from the bottom.

01:58:28.000 Yep. From guard.

01:58:29.000 How about Henzo on Oleg Taras?

01:58:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:58:33.000 Remember that shit?

01:58:33.000 That was the first time we saw an effective upkick.

01:58:36.000 Yeah, and then Jerry Bolander on...

01:58:38.000 He's going to pass him here.

01:58:40.000 I know.

01:58:40.000 Jacare Mousasi.

01:58:42.000 Or Fabio Jurgel.

01:58:43.000 He's passing him.

01:58:44.000 He's got the back.

01:58:45.000 He's got one hook.

01:58:47.000 I think there's probably like 10 up...

01:58:49.000 Oh, there it is.

01:58:49.000 Arm triangle.

01:58:50.000 There it is.

01:58:51.000 He's got to get his right knee across to Kevin's left hip.

01:58:53.000 He's got to mount him.

01:58:55.000 He's got to get his left knee across to his left hip.

01:58:57.000 He's got to pass the guard.

01:58:58.000 Can he not apply enough pressure in half guard?

01:59:01.000 It's hard from half guard.

01:59:02.000 It depends if he has a good lockdown or not.

01:59:04.000 If he had a good lockdown, he would survive.

01:59:06.000 But he's just got to...

01:59:07.000 Why he's not passing the guard here, I'm not sure.

01:59:10.000 It's also hard for him to dismount from here because the cage is in the way.

01:59:14.000 Even if he does mount him.

01:59:16.000 Here it comes.

01:59:17.000 Okay, so now he's gonna try to either mount him or move the side control.

01:59:21.000 But he's kind of wedged in place by the cage.

01:59:25.000 There it is.

01:59:26.000 Here it comes.

01:59:27.000 He probably knows what's up.

01:59:30.000 He's just waiting till Kevin catches his breath.

01:59:34.000 Oh, should not take the back.

01:59:36.000 Stop! That was nice by Kevin.

01:59:38.000 That was really nice.

01:59:39.000 That's why you got a mount.

01:59:41.000 Gunnar should have switched back to a tight waist when Kevin went to roll out.

01:59:44.000 Kevin should break free here.

01:59:45.000 He should break free here and start teeing off on him.

01:59:49.000 Gunnar held on to the arm triangle too long.

01:59:51.000 He should have mounted, in my opinion.

01:59:54.000 Like, all arm triangles, in my opinion, should be in the mount.

01:59:57.000 Once you start going side control, there's too many escapes.

02:00:00.000 Escapes are too easy.

02:00:01.000 Well, you should have at least set it better for mount.

02:00:03.000 Like, it wasn't set.

02:00:04.000 Like, you should have mounted him.

02:00:05.000 Oh, shit!

02:00:09.000 Kevin's gonna come at him hard here.

02:00:10.000 Yeah, he is.

02:00:11.000 He's got to.

02:00:13.000 She can't get taken down.

02:00:14.000 Oh, another knee.

02:00:15.000 Another knee.

02:00:16.000 Damn, this is gonna be a hard one to score.

02:00:19.000 Super hard to score.

02:00:22.000 I'm trying to go for a Darce.

02:00:24.000 It looks like it.

02:00:24.000 It looked like he thought about it.

02:00:27.000 Yeah, he's looking for it for sure.

02:00:30.000 Disengage, Kevin.

02:00:32.000 I know, right?

02:00:33.000 Especially now.

02:00:34.000 He's got his hands locked.

02:00:39.000 And he had times to disengage, and he's got an advantage in the striking.

02:00:44.000 Huge advantage.

02:00:45.000 But also, like, so exhausted at this point in the fight.

02:00:48.000 Yeah, he's probably trying to rest.

02:00:54.000 Total strikes, Kevin, 130.

02:00:56.000 Gunner, 20. Gunner's going to win it.

02:01:02.000 Unless Kevin catches him, three seconds to go.

02:01:07.000 So, 10-9, 10-9, Gunner, but then 10-8 in the first round?

02:01:12.000 What, is that a draw?

02:01:13.000 Is that a draw?

02:01:14.000 You do 10-9, Holland, first round.

02:01:16.000 It's going to be a draw.

02:01:17.000 10-9.

02:01:18.000 If they gave him 10-8 for the first round.

02:01:21.000 The guy was saved by the bell.

02:01:22.000 How do you not give him a 10-8?

02:01:23.000 No, I agree.

02:01:24.000 But it doesn't mean that the judges agree.

02:01:26.000 The judges are goofy.

02:01:28.000 Judges are goofy.

02:01:29.000 It all depends.

02:01:30.000 It depends.

02:01:31.000 I don't think they hand out 10-8's enough.

02:01:33.000 Do they still have Adlai Bird?

02:01:35.000 Does she still work?

02:01:36.000 I don't know.

02:01:37.000 That's a good question.

02:01:37.000 She was awesome.

02:01:38.000 She was the best.

02:01:40.000 That's a good question.

02:01:42.000 What is this movie?

02:01:43.000 It's a truck commercial.

02:01:45.000 For what movie?

02:01:46.000 For Ford.

02:01:47.000 This is a truck?

02:01:48.000 It's a Ram.

02:01:49.000 Yeah. It's a truck commercial.

02:01:50.000 Woman in the Yard.

02:01:51.000 No. It's a movie.

02:01:53.000 Only in theaters Friday.

02:01:54.000 Oh, you're looking at something different?

02:01:55.000 Yeah, I haven't said you're on a delay.

02:01:56.000 I was like, that's a truck commercial?

02:01:58.000 Oh, are you looking at ESPN Plus' different commercials?

02:02:01.000 The new Raptor coming out?

02:02:02.000 Yeah. Oh, weird.

02:02:06.000 Oh, how weird.

02:02:08.000 So there's different commercials depending on where you look?

02:02:11.000 Yeah, it's weird.

02:02:12.000 They're my accounts, too.

02:02:18.000 Yeah, I have a hiring SipRecruiter ad.

02:02:21.000 So I think Jan's next.

02:02:23.000 Yes. Jan Oldberg next.

02:02:29.000 So what's the guess?

02:02:32.000 Oh, man.

02:02:33.000 Give us some volume, Jamie.

02:02:35.000 I think Gunnar takes it.

02:02:36.000 Yeah, Gordon has a good point with all the control Gunnar had with these judges.

02:02:40.000 Draw. Yeah.

02:02:41.000 Draw. Could be a draw.

02:02:43.000 Either it's a draw or Kevin Hall wins.

02:02:48.000 Gunnar split.

02:02:51.000 Oh, it's Gunnar.

02:02:57.000 Oh, wow.

02:03:00.000 Good for Kevin, man.

02:03:04.000 That's legit.

02:03:05.000 They gave him that third round.

02:03:06.000 Yeah. Damage.

02:03:08.000 He did all the damage, even though Gunnar had control of him.

02:03:11.000 He did have an arm triangle.

02:03:13.000 And he did take him down.

02:03:15.000 But Kevin definitely did more damage to him.

02:03:17.000 Almost had his back a couple times.

02:03:18.000 Yeah. True.

02:03:19.000 True. I think it should have been a draw.

02:03:21.000 It could have been a draw.

02:03:24.000 I mean, Kevin looked surprised when they announced him.

02:03:26.000 Yes. Yeah.

02:03:31.000 Yeah. Good for Kevin.

02:03:34.000 He needs it.

02:03:38.000 Yeah, he's saying I knew it could go either way.

02:03:41.000 Kevin at 170, that's his spot.

02:03:43.000 Yeah, that's his spot.

02:03:44.000 He's beat some good guys.

02:03:46.000 He's got legit championship potential.

02:03:47.000 How about a rematch with him and Joaquin Buckley at 170?

02:03:50.000 That would be crazy.

02:03:51.000 You know?

02:03:52.000 Is Joaquin Buckley the guy that did that crazy kick?

02:03:54.000 Yeah, bro, he's a monster at 170.

02:03:57.000 At 170, he's a monster.

02:03:58.000 He beat the shit out of Colby.

02:04:00.000 He's so motivated, too.

02:04:03.000 Colby Colvington?

02:04:04.000 Yeah. Kevin Holland?

02:04:06.000 No, Colby got his ass whipped by...

02:04:08.000 Joaquin. Joaquin Buckley.

02:04:10.000 Forgot about that fight.

02:04:12.000 How did that go down?

02:04:13.000 Knockout? He just beat the shit out of him.

02:04:14.000 They stopped the fight.

02:04:15.000 Defend the takedown and just beat the shit out of him.

02:04:17.000 He beat the shit out of everybody.

02:04:19.000 They stopped the fight?

02:04:20.000 Yeah. 170, he's a monster.

02:04:22.000 Colby Colvington?

02:04:23.000 Yeah, they stopped the fight.

02:04:24.000 Recently or early in his career?

02:04:26.000 Yeah, Joaquin beat his ass.

02:04:26.000 A few months ago.

02:04:27.000 Damn, I missed that.

02:04:29.000 Holy shit.

02:04:30.000 Joachim's a real problem at 170.

02:04:32.000 He's super motivated, amazing genetics, super explosive and fast, very disciplined, gets better every fight, crazy cardio at 170.

02:04:43.000 Especially being that muscle-bound.

02:04:44.000 That muscle-bound, but it's his work ethic, man.

02:04:46.000 He's got crazy work ethic.

02:04:48.000 Did you see that video he made for Bilal?

02:04:51.000 No. He explained, like, you got what I want.

02:04:54.000 It's this whole thing, talking about his life, what he needs, taking care of his grandmother.

02:04:58.000 It was intense.

02:04:59.000 He's like, I'm coming for you, boy.

02:05:02.000 It's intense.

02:05:03.000 He's a real threat at 170.

02:05:05.000 Big time.

02:05:07.000 But I would love to see that.

02:05:08.000 Is she coming back?

02:05:09.000 No, she's done.

02:05:10.000 She got boobies now.

02:05:12.000 That's the man.

02:05:14.000 Remember when he fought Ryan Hall?

02:05:15.000 No one knew who he was.

02:05:16.000 Oh, yeah.

02:05:17.000 He smashed him.

02:05:19.000 Duck. He's in a tough position.

02:05:24.000 What would you say, Gordon?

02:05:25.000 Like 80%, 85% of UFC fighters aren't ready for the high, high level leg locks, right?

02:05:34.000 That's how Brian Hall came in and he would just leg lock dudes.

02:05:37.000 Yeah. Because MMA fighters aren't really...

02:05:41.000 They're not focused on it.

02:05:42.000 They're not focused on jujitsu at the high level.

02:05:46.000 But see, Ryan Hall ripped through some people with leg locks.

02:05:49.000 Even BJ!

02:05:50.000 Yeah. Which is crazy.

02:05:51.000 But then he hits Topuria.

02:05:54.000 How do you say his name?

02:05:54.000 Topuria. That was the first guy like, oh shit, this guy knows how to defend leg locks.

02:05:59.000 Who is he?

02:06:01.000 Who's his coach?

02:06:02.000 He's got a...

02:06:03.000 I'm not sure.

02:06:04.000 Famous guy.

02:06:06.000 Ilya? Yes.

02:06:07.000 He was working with...

02:06:09.000 Someone legit.

02:06:11.000 Maybe it was like Balance Studios or something.

02:06:14.000 I don't know, but that was...

02:06:16.000 Sometimes you're going to run into guys that you cannot leg lock, and when it's all greasy...

02:06:21.000 But also, you get to a certain level where guys can stop your game at leg lots, and if you don't have striking, you get exposed.

02:06:29.000 That's why Ryan doesn't fight a lot.

02:06:30.000 He was well-versed in...

02:06:32.000 How do you say it again?

02:06:34.000 Teporia? Teporia.

02:06:35.000 Ryan Hall's had like nine surgeries.

02:06:38.000 Over the last...

02:06:39.000 maybe more.

02:06:40.000 Didn't... Yeah, Josh Waitzkin...

02:06:41.000 Maybe it was 23 is what I looked up.

02:06:43.000 That's nuts.

02:06:43.000 He's not that active.

02:06:45.000 I know he's turned down a lot of match-ups, too.

02:06:47.000 What is he getting surgery on?

02:06:48.000 That's 23 times.

02:06:49.000 Is he still fighting?

02:06:50.000 Having problems is what it was.

02:06:51.000 Ryan Hall still fighting?

02:06:52.000 He's still under contract, but I know he's turned down a bunch of fights.

02:06:55.000 Yeah. It's probably like, nah, man.

02:06:56.000 19 under general.

02:06:57.000 I like his style.

02:06:58.000 I like it.

02:06:59.000 19 under general anesthesia?

02:07:01.000 Yeah. He's put out 19 times?

02:07:03.000 Yeah. That can't be good for you.

02:07:04.000 You get put to sleep 19 times?

02:07:07.000 19 general anesthesia surgeries.

02:07:09.000 Some procedures need to be redone due to complications.

02:07:12.000 Jesus Christ.

02:07:13.000 Holy fuck, man.

02:07:14.000 What is his injuries?

02:07:17.000 21 general anesthesia surgeries since that fight.

02:07:21.000 Sorry, 19, there were two prior.

02:07:22.000 That's crazy.

02:07:24.000 What happened to him?

02:07:25.000 I don't know.

02:07:25.000 They kept having issues.

02:07:27.000 So at 21 general anesthesia surgeries, I got fallen on, tore my ACL, had to fix a plantar plate, got fallen on again, had to have a tightrope surgery on that one that Pat Mahomes and a couple other people have had.

02:07:41.000 ACL got infected.

02:07:42.000 I had a couple of septic arthritis.

02:07:45.000 Tightrope was actually allergic to the hardware they put in me somewhere, somehow.

02:07:50.000 Had to have that redone.

02:07:51.000 It's been interesting, but back on the end of it.

02:07:54.000 On the back end of it, rather.

02:07:56.000 Wow. That's crazy.

02:07:59.000 Boy. Wow.

02:08:00.000 I had no idea.

02:08:02.000 That's so many surgeries.

02:08:03.000 I thought he retired.

02:08:05.000 That's crazy.

02:08:06.000 How many surgeries have you had?

02:08:08.000 One. Just one?

02:08:09.000 Yeah, my LCL.

02:08:11.000 I mean, I've been injured a lot, but just one surgery.

02:08:13.000 Was that from a leg lock?

02:08:15.000 Eddie Cummings?

02:08:16.000 No. Eddie broke my ankles a bunch of times, but that was when I competed against Joao Rocha.

02:08:21.000 I was going for a leg lock entry, and he was like 270.

02:08:24.000 He jumped towards my head.

02:08:26.000 What happened to Eddie?

02:08:27.000 Dude, I don't know.

02:08:28.000 He just disappeared one day, and then apparently he was training pretty recently at Henzo's and Unity.

02:08:35.000 But he just stopped training jiu-jitsu forever, got a real job, I think.

02:08:41.000 That guy was vicious, man.

02:08:43.000 So good.

02:08:43.000 So smart.

02:08:44.000 I was standing over him as he ripped through everybody with leg locks.

02:08:49.000 I'm like, God damn.

02:08:50.000 He was on some other shit.

02:08:53.000 You know what I mean?

02:08:53.000 He was vicious.

02:08:55.000 And then you hear from his training partners that, man, he went hard, right, in the training room?

02:09:01.000 He went after legs.

02:09:03.000 He did get hard.

02:09:04.000 Yeah. It's weird when guys get that good and just stop.

02:09:09.000 After he retired, he still put out a couple videos, little short instructionals on Instagram, and this one he put out for the Z-Lock.

02:09:21.000 In my opinion, the Z-Lock, the one he showed, that's the best one.

02:09:25.000 It's not a sad story if you want to do something cool.

02:09:28.000 It's kind of dope that he's like, fuck it, I'm over it.

02:09:30.000 If he went on to make money, he's doing well.

02:09:33.000 Depends what he's doing.

02:09:35.000 What do you think is the best leg lock?

02:09:36.000 One leg lock.

02:09:37.000 You're going to teach your students just one leg lock entry and one heel hook.

02:09:43.000 What's it going to be?

02:09:45.000 Well, insofar as...

02:09:47.000 Breaking mechanics?

02:09:48.000 No, like they say they got the breaking mechanics down, and just where the leg's going to be.

02:09:53.000 Which leg entanglement are you going to choose?

02:09:56.000 Which one's the best?

02:09:57.000 Obviously it's not DOA.

02:09:59.000 It's not outside Ashi.

02:10:02.000 And not just regular Ashi either.

02:10:04.000 That one's too basic.

02:10:07.000 Backside 50-50 is pretty good.

02:10:10.000 Right when you go, because I hear from Backside 50-50 coming in from K-Guard, right?

02:10:15.000 Yeah. I hear, like, from my guys, I'm not like the biggest leg locker, but I pay attention to my guys, and they're saying that the entry into backside 50-50 is awesome, but you don't really generally get the tap there.

02:10:28.000 There's going to be some kind of scramble and some kind of spin.

02:10:30.000 You can, but the guy can...

02:10:31.000 High leg over.

02:10:32.000 If you trap the far leg, the secondary leg, then you can get finishes belly down with it, which is why it's a good position.

02:10:37.000 But a good guy is always going to limp leg and strip the grip, which is why I believe that probably the best position...

02:10:46.000 In terms of not having the guy come forward and crush you or hit you.

02:10:50.000 And strong, catastrophic breaking mechanics is probably Cross Ashigurami, your guys' honey hole.

02:10:56.000 So that's still the best.

02:10:58.000 Double trouble.

02:10:59.000 Yeah. So you feed the one leg across, the legs are split, so you have an Achilles lock here, and then you dig for the heel, and then you go in and lock up.

02:11:07.000 It's still the best.

02:11:07.000 But my highest percentage finish is that position, but with the leg fed on the outside for the outside heel hook.

02:11:16.000 That's like Z-Lock-ish, right?

02:11:17.000 Yeah, kind of.

02:11:18.000 Yeah, because Z-Lock is basically double trouble with the outside heel hook.

02:11:21.000 Correct. And instead of triangling your legs, stomping on the inside.

02:11:27.000 Yeah, you can go foot-to-foot.

02:11:28.000 Is that what you guys call it, foot-to-foot?

02:11:29.000 Yeah. That's huge.

02:11:30.000 That's like a game-changer right there.

02:11:32.000 And that right there, just the straight ankle lock is the most powerful straight ankle lock from that position right there with it on the outside.

02:11:39.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:11:39.000 Oh, no, the secondary leg.

02:11:40.000 Yeah. That straight ankle lock and the Aoki.

02:11:43.000 Yeah, Aoki's strong as well.

02:11:44.000 How crazy are Aokis?

02:11:46.000 Aokis are a lot like Dead Orchards, where the first time I seen Aoki, it's from Shinya Aoki, it seemed like he was going for just a straight ankle lock, but dude, I forget his opponent was, but his foot almost slipped out, so it looked like a straight ankle lock that he almost pulled his foot out, but it got caught and twisted.

02:12:05.000 It gives you the rotation.

02:12:06.000 Yeah, and everyone thought, maybe not everyone, but I thought, oh, that's one of those freak things.

02:12:12.000 You don't actually plan for it or set up for it.

02:12:15.000 It just happens.

02:12:16.000 Sometimes they pull out of ankle locks.

02:12:18.000 Sometimes, like an omoplata, sometimes when they try to pull out their omoplata, it gets caught and they tap an armbar.

02:12:25.000 It's not like you set it up.

02:12:26.000 It's like a freak thing.

02:12:28.000 They try to get out, but it got caught, and then they tap.

02:12:30.000 So that's what I thought the Aoki was.

02:12:32.000 But it turns out, fuck no.

02:12:35.000 It seems like the Aoki is top two leg lock finishes.

02:12:39.000 In the grappling world today.

02:12:41.000 It's just people get, because it's so good to counter with them, correct?

02:12:44.000 Yeah, no, you get good finishes with Aoki's.

02:12:47.000 What's an Aoki?

02:12:48.000 It's an ankle lock, but when they slip their...

02:12:51.000 Their heel out, it's like you're going for an ankle lock and they almost pull out their leg, and then it turns into a heel hook.

02:12:56.000 So it's half ankle lock, half heel hook.

02:12:59.000 Huge. It's like the most powerful shit right now.

02:13:00.000 It's not mechanically as strong as a heel hook, though, because when you go for heel hooks, you're physically bridging your hip into the knee.

02:13:06.000 Yeah. Whereas with Aoki's, the knee is turned out, so you're not bridging into the knee in a way to break it.

02:13:11.000 Yeah. Whereas with an inverted heel hook, for example, you have a good, strong connection.

02:13:19.000 You have a good strong connection, but when you go to bridge, you see how he's not bridging into the hip?

02:13:25.000 Yeah. So with a heel hook, you're bridging directly into the hip.

02:13:28.000 So it's the full extension of your body into the knee, so the upper leg is pinned through the leg position, and then your gripping position is what's manipulating the foot.

02:13:38.000 And scroll down a little bit, Jamie, and look at the guy, that one on the right, the one you had, the big one on the right.

02:13:43.000 Now we can't see it on the right.

02:13:45.000 That one right there.

02:13:46.000 Can you blow that up?

02:13:48.000 The dude doing the Aoki lock, his right leg the way, I think people are calling that a shadow hook or whatever, Silverado, he's a catch wrestler, Brazilian catch wrestler, showed me that when I was a white belt.

02:14:00.000 I remember Silverado.

02:14:01.000 Remember, he used to do that.

02:14:02.000 He used to do that.

02:14:03.000 And I thought, like, ah, this is nothing.

02:14:06.000 So I never really fucked with it.

02:14:09.000 But now it's back.

02:14:10.000 Strong! Like Helena Cravar is doing this exact thing.

02:14:14.000 This is like her main move.

02:14:15.000 Silverado had a lot of Gene LaBelle stuff.

02:14:17.000 Yeah, it was a catch wrestling thing.

02:14:19.000 Yeah, he had a lot of that.

02:14:20.000 This is a great position because with the guy who's attacking his right leg, usually the guy's trying to peel it off the hip.

02:14:27.000 Yeah. So when you peel it off the hip, that butterfly hook comes in, and then normally you would throw that left leg.

02:14:34.000 Over. So now you can't step over.

02:14:36.000 You can't disengage the legs.

02:14:37.000 It's easy.

02:14:38.000 And dude putting his right leg there, if he put it, traditionally you'd put it on the hip, you could get countered with an Aoki.

02:14:46.000 So that's huge.

02:14:46.000 Like a regular Ashi, everyone's like, I got guys that just let dudes put them in Ashi so they could take that foot.

02:14:52.000 And it's a whole, it's a game changer.

02:14:54.000 And also because the right foot is on the inside position, it makes it harder for the guy in defense, the defensive guy, to push forward into you.

02:15:02.000 It makes it hard for him to come forward.

02:15:04.000 Because the Aoki, you have to push into the lock, put your foot deeper to boot it.

02:15:08.000 But the butterfly hook stops it.

02:15:10.000 The butterfly actually stops you from pushing the foot in deeper.

02:15:13.000 I think the first guy to really, really master it was the Polish guy.

02:15:23.000 What's his name?

02:15:25.000 He armbarred Gary Tonin, that guy.

02:15:28.000 What's his name?

02:15:29.000 Matias Shizinski.

02:15:30.000 Yeah, Shizinski.

02:15:32.000 That guy.

02:15:33.000 Yeah, everyone talks about him.

02:15:34.000 I've never trained with him, but apparently he was like...

02:15:36.000 He rips through everybody.

02:15:37.000 He just been breaking everybody's shit.

02:15:39.000 Exactly. And he was doing his legs just like that.

02:15:42.000 It was the Aoki with that leg entanglement.

02:15:45.000 We were calling it the Polish Aoki.

02:15:47.000 And he's a bad motherfucker, man.

02:15:50.000 Well, it's difficult because the butterfly hook doesn't allow you to stack.

02:15:53.000 He doesn't allow you to come forward and push your foot deeper.

02:15:55.000 I'd never forget Silverado showing me that as a wipeout.

02:15:59.000 And I'm thinking, really?

02:16:01.000 Ken Shamrock puts his leg up here.

02:16:03.000 How would you do that?

02:16:05.000 I was like learning shit off Ken Shamrock.

02:16:07.000 I got into toeholds as a white belt because Ken Shamrock had this instructional where he's in jeans and no shirt.

02:16:16.000 He's all tanned and yoked.

02:16:17.000 He looked like a Chippendales guy.

02:16:19.000 And he's with some Japanese guy.

02:16:20.000 And he's going over toeholds, like standing over a guy's guard and grabbing the foot and doing a toehold.

02:16:26.000 And I'm like, whoa, what is he doing with the foot?

02:16:29.000 And I could never get on.

02:16:32.000 I've taken down one person my whole life, and that was in wrestling.

02:16:36.000 I had one wrestling takedown.

02:16:38.000 I wrestled two years, got one takedown.

02:16:42.000 Because I was afraid to break my teeth.

02:16:44.000 Everyone's missing teeth.

02:16:45.000 I didn't want to shoot.

02:16:46.000 I go, you shoot and I'll sprawl.

02:16:47.000 I'm like, you shoot and I'll sprawl.

02:16:48.000 I got a good front headlock now.

02:16:50.000 I got a good front headlock.

02:16:51.000 But I have zero takedowns.

02:16:54.000 Unless... It's a dude that doesn't wrestle.

02:16:56.000 I got in a couple street fights here and there.

02:16:59.000 I was always a pussy growing up.

02:17:01.000 I was never a tough guy.

02:17:02.000 But every now and then I wrestled and I never looked at wrestling.

02:17:05.000 As a martial art, I looked at his pussy fighting.

02:17:08.000 I go, dude, I'm not a fighter.

02:17:09.000 No one thinks I'm a fighter.

02:17:10.000 I don't have a reputation to uphold, but if anybody fucks with me, I'm going to double-leg him and just hold him until the principal breaks us up.

02:17:17.000 You know what I mean?

02:17:18.000 I was like, dude, I was grounding and pounding in ninth grade.

02:17:21.000 I would take dudes out.

02:17:22.000 I fought this one soccer player.

02:17:24.000 His name was Sesad.

02:17:25.000 He was talking a lot of shit, and I go, dude, he'll probably kick my ass, but he can't stop my takedown because this dude don't wrestle, so I'd take him down, and I would just get side control and barely punch his stomach.

02:17:35.000 And wait for someone to pull me off.

02:17:37.000 I mean, I survived.

02:17:39.000 And then when I saw Hoist fighting UFC 2, I'm like, you can fight on the ground and not be a pussy?

02:17:44.000 That's why I joined Jiu Jitsu.

02:17:46.000 I'm like, oh my god, this is my shit.

02:17:47.000 I thought fighting on the ground was pussy fighting.

02:17:50.000 It's accepted and respected.

02:17:52.000 That's hilarious.

02:17:53.000 That's what got me into Jiu Jitsu.

02:17:56.000 Here we go.

02:17:57.000 Here we go.

02:18:01.000 I scheduled this.

02:18:02.000 I thought it was going to be at 1, and I got to get out of here like in 10 minutes.

02:18:06.000 Oh, no worries.

02:18:07.000 Let's see what happens in 10 minutes.

02:18:08.000 My flight got pushed, Eddie.

02:18:10.000 It's at 8 now.

02:18:11.000 Oh, it got pushed?

02:18:12.000 Uh-huh.

02:18:12.000 I got mine is at 7. There you go.

02:18:15.000 Make sure it's on time, though.

02:18:20.000 Bohobich is 42, but it's a Polish 42. That's different genetics, bro.

02:18:25.000 Is that older or younger?

02:18:26.000 Old school Viking genetics.

02:18:27.000 So if you're a Polish 42, are you older or are you younger?

02:18:31.000 What do you say?

02:18:31.000 I don't know.

02:18:32.000 Those shoulders are every bit of 42. Yeah, well, we'll see.

02:18:36.000 We'll see.

02:18:37.000 Look what happened with Yuri.

02:18:38.000 Yuri got his shoulders fixed.

02:18:39.000 No problem at all.

02:18:40.000 He looked great.

02:18:41.000 He looked amazing.

02:18:43.000 But then Johnny Walker's shoulders fixed.

02:18:46.000 Yeah, but that's a lot of damage, too.

02:18:49.000 Johnny Walker's been KO'd so many times.

02:18:52.000 It's also just such a big jump up in talent for Oberg.

02:18:57.000 He beat Ozdemir, but before that he really hadn't fought anybody.

02:19:01.000 Well, this is a world champion.

02:19:02.000 You're fighting a world champion.

02:19:04.000 And a guy who's real determined to get back to the belt.

02:19:07.000 You've got to realize he had a draw with Ankulaev, almost won the title there.

02:19:13.000 Real close to beating Pereira.

02:19:14.000 Real close fight.

02:19:16.000 Beat Izzy.

02:19:17.000 You know, he's still a monster.

02:19:18.000 Even though he's 42. Savage.

02:19:21.000 And he wins this one.

02:19:22.000 He's right there.

02:19:23.000 Hard low kick by Jan.

02:19:24.000 He's right there for the title shot.

02:19:26.000 Yes. Well, he's always the guy that people forget about in this division.

02:19:29.000 One big win over Olberg.

02:19:31.000 He's right back in the hunt.

02:19:33.000 And he would be a logical guy to fight next after Antlaev and Pereira.

02:19:39.000 There's a story for either one.

02:19:40.000 Yeah. Both of them.

02:19:42.000 Antlaev majorly because there's a draw.

02:19:44.000 Yeah. He's fucking dangerous, too.

02:19:47.000 I mean, that power's the last thing to go, and Jan's got ridiculous power.

02:19:50.000 Remember that Rockhold KO?

02:19:52.000 Like, jeez.

02:19:53.000 Dude, that was like a murder.

02:19:54.000 Bro, how about the fucking Dominic Reyes one?

02:19:57.000 He like rapped to him after he was already down, like with a running start.

02:20:01.000 Yeah. Boom.

02:20:01.000 And hit him with a second punch.

02:20:02.000 You remember when he kicked Dominic Reyes in the body?

02:20:05.000 You see his whole foot on Reyes' body?

02:20:08.000 He's such a hard dude.

02:20:11.000 Ooh. Solid jab.

02:20:13.000 Holbrook definitely has a speed advantage.

02:20:14.000 Mm-hmm.

02:20:16.000 He does, but Bohovic has a massive experience advantage.

02:20:19.000 Massive. Check that.

02:20:21.000 And him with a hard low kick, too.

02:20:22.000 He has that Rottweiler head.

02:20:24.000 Mm-hmm.

02:20:26.000 Remember when he went shin-to-shin with Ankoliov?

02:20:28.000 Just fucked his legs up?

02:20:30.000 He's like, let's see who's got the harder shins.

02:20:33.000 Him and Ankoliov are just tough fucking humans, man.

02:20:37.000 There's so many tough guys in this division.

02:20:40.000 I mean, Yuri would be the champion if it wasn't for Alex.

02:20:44.000 There's so many good guys.

02:20:45.000 That Uri fight with Jamal Hill was crazy.

02:20:48.000 Racket's no punk either.

02:20:50.000 Oh, no.

02:20:50.000 But, you know, Uri KO'd him.

02:20:52.000 Yeah. Uncle I beat him in a decision in his last fight.

02:21:00.000 Jan looks good, though.

02:21:01.000 He doesn't look like he's 42. He looks like a legit contender.

02:21:08.000 It's just so much experience, you know, and he's so good at pacing himself and staying calm.

02:21:14.000 Remember, it's only three rounds, too.

02:21:16.000 That's true, but that Olberg's first fight was three rounds as well, you know, the Kennedy fight.

02:21:20.000 I mean, this is a big step up, man.

02:21:25.000 Big step up.

02:21:28.000 Oh, high kick.

02:21:29.000 Oh, high kick.

02:21:36.000 Oh, they announced Roundtree.

02:21:38.000 And Hill.

02:21:40.000 Ooh, when's that?

02:21:42.000 I'm not sure.

02:21:43.000 Soon. Ooh, that's exciting.

02:21:44.000 That's a great fight.

02:21:45.000 That is a great fight.

02:21:46.000 He just went shin to shin with Olberg.

02:21:49.000 I bought that Jeep yesterday, and the lady goes, oh, my cousin fights in the UFC.

02:21:54.000 And usually I'm like, oh, really?

02:21:55.000 I'm like, who's your cousin?

02:21:57.000 She's all, uh, Hill?

02:21:59.000 Jamal Hill?

02:21:59.000 I'm like, oh, fuck yeah.

02:22:01.000 She's a badass girl.

02:22:04.000 April 26th, Kansas City.

02:22:06.000 Oh, shit.

02:22:07.000 That Kansas City card's tasty.

02:22:09.000 Mmm. Yeah, that's a good fight night, finally.

02:22:11.000 Ooh. Jan's winning the Battle of the Low Kicks.

02:22:17.000 He's checking Olberg's.

02:22:18.000 Yeah, Olberg's not landing, is he?

02:22:20.000 No. He's landing a few now.

02:22:23.000 There's a good one.

02:22:24.000 Shin to Shin.

02:22:26.000 Nothing's tastier than that Miami card coming up, though.

02:22:29.000 Ooh, that Miami card's good.

02:22:30.000 That's a fucking treat.

02:22:31.000 Ooh, that's good.

02:22:32.000 Yair and Pitbull.

02:22:33.000 Ooh. I swear to God, if I have problems with ESPN +, I'm going to lose my shit.

02:22:37.000 And John Silva versus Bryce.

02:22:39.000 Not Pitbull from Bellator.

02:22:41.000 Yes, I know.

02:22:42.000 He's with the UFC now.

02:22:43.000 Oh, shit.

02:22:44.000 With Yair Rodriguez.

02:22:46.000 On the main card.

02:22:47.000 They bumped up the main card.

02:22:48.000 They don't have a picture of him.

02:22:49.000 That's outrageous.

02:22:50.000 Get a picture.

02:22:51.000 Bellator wouldn't send it.

02:22:53.000 That's crazy.

02:22:54.000 Have him pose.

02:22:54.000 Take your own pictures.

02:22:55.000 Have him pose for a picture.

02:22:56.000 Jesus Christ.

02:22:57.000 Take a selfie on your fucking cell phone.

02:22:58.000 The fuck?

02:22:59.000 Take your shirt off.

02:23:00.000 Have your girl done.

02:23:01.000 Send it in.

02:23:01.000 Yeah. Yeah, we'll black out the background.

02:23:08.000 Oh, good job by Oberg.

02:23:10.000 I gotta get out.

02:23:10.000 You leaving, dog?

02:23:11.000 You're out?

02:23:11.000 Love you, man.

02:23:12.000 Love you.

02:23:12.000 Thank you, man.

02:23:13.000 Gordon, great hanging.

02:23:14.000 Yes, sir.

02:23:15.000 Thank you.

02:23:15.000 See you soon.

02:23:17.000 Good to see you, my brother.

02:23:18.000 See you, man.

02:23:18.000 Love you, too, man.

02:23:19.000 See you.

02:23:19.000 See you, buddy.

02:23:20.000 Did your son play tomorrow, Eddie?

02:23:22.000 Yep, I'll be there too.

02:23:23.000 I'll see you, man.

02:23:24.000 See you, brother.

02:23:25.000 Bro, I love when I run to Eddie at the baseball fields because he's a vet.

02:23:30.000 Like, my kid's only nine.

02:23:31.000 He's been doing it two years, but he's been in it for a thick...

02:23:33.000 He has everything.

02:23:34.000 Backpack, water, just the whole tent, the seat.

02:23:38.000 He loves being a dad.

02:23:39.000 Yeah, we always run to each other at the baseball fields.

02:23:41.000 It's awesome to see.

02:23:45.000 Yeah, my kiddos met him for the first time, like two weeks ago.

02:23:47.000 Oh, that's crazy.

02:23:49.000 I was like, that's Uncle Eddie!

02:23:50.000 I'm like, uncle?

02:23:50.000 Who the fuck's Uncle Eddie?

02:23:51.000 Right there!

02:23:52.000 It's your uncle.

02:23:58.000 This is boring ass commercials.

02:24:05.000 Come on.

02:24:05.000 So brutal.

02:24:06.000 Let's go.

02:24:07.000 Let's go.

02:24:08.000 You see, Bare Knuckle Fighting is going to have hockey fights.

02:24:11.000 They're going to have fights with skates on.

02:24:13.000 Bare knuckle boxing.

02:24:15.000 With hockey, skates on.

02:24:17.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:24:17.000 Gimmick. There's some weird shit, man.

02:24:19.000 That's a gimmick.

02:24:20.000 They have car jiu-jitsu now.

02:24:22.000 I've seen that in Russia.

02:24:23.000 Bro, you know they offered me and Brian to fight each other in car jiu-jitsu?

02:24:27.000 Brian Cowan?

02:24:28.000 Yeah. Why would they do that to Brian?

02:24:31.000 They didn't pitch me, they pitched Brian.

02:24:33.000 They go, it'd be really fun for you and Brendan to do car jiu-jitsu.

02:24:37.000 And Brian goes, like, seriously?

02:24:40.000 And the guy goes, yeah, would you guys be down to it?

02:24:42.000 Brian's like, no!

02:24:43.000 He's like, I'm not gonna fucking go and chop and guard shit to you.

02:24:48.000 You're 100 pounds bigger than him and a black belt.

02:24:50.000 It's so ridiculous.

02:24:51.000 Brian's like, you know what the fuck you do to me with a seatbelt?

02:24:53.000 That's so ridiculous.

02:24:54.000 Yeah. It would be funny.

02:24:55.000 You'd be talking shit while you tie him up.

02:24:57.000 Yeah, it'd be funny.

02:24:58.000 Oh, here we go.

02:24:59.000 Round two.

02:25:04.000 That first round's hard to score, huh?

02:25:05.000 Yeah. Can I give it to Jan?

02:25:06.000 I think I can give it to Jan.

02:25:09.000 Jan looks like you got the best of it.

02:25:12.000 Ooh. Swing and a miss.

02:25:14.000 How's that shoulder?

02:25:16.000 We'll get a better round from Olberg here because, you know, it's new to him.

02:25:20.000 He's fighting a vet at this level.

02:25:22.000 He looks good.

02:25:24.000 He's a fast motherfucker.

02:25:28.000 That takedown feint really got a reaction.

02:25:31.000 Yeah, it did.

02:25:31.000 Big time.

02:25:32.000 Great feint.

02:25:33.000 But he's not really a wrestler.

02:25:35.000 Fuck, no.

02:25:36.000 Oh. Jan's looking for bombs.

02:25:40.000 Oh.

02:25:50.000 Those leg kicks are going to be a problem if you don't start checking them.

02:25:56.000 God, remember when Jan fought Izzy?

02:25:58.000 Yeah. What a nightmare matchup.

02:26:01.000 Yeah, just too big.

02:26:02.000 Too big.

02:26:03.000 But Izzy also tried to do 205 with no weight gain.

02:26:07.000 He just tried to weigh with his weight.

02:26:09.000 Cut less.

02:26:10.000 I don't think he'd cut anything.

02:26:11.000 I don't think he'd cut.

02:26:12.000 He just walked up.

02:26:13.000 190-something.

02:26:14.000 But if they would have gave, like, I mean, Grant, do you want to fight for the title?

02:26:17.000 If they would have given, like, Yuri or someone, that'd be a funner matchup.

02:26:20.000 Oh, that'd be crazy.

02:26:21.000 Yuri, Izzy, it's fun.

02:26:22.000 Yeah, that's dangerous.

02:26:23.000 Fucking Jan.

02:26:24.000 Well, Jan Watts at 240.

02:26:26.000 Yuri looks so good in the Jamal Hill fight.

02:26:29.000 Yeah, he looks good.

02:26:29.000 He's turned a corner.

02:26:31.000 He's a different guy now.

02:26:31.000 He's one of my favorites.

02:26:32.000 Oh, one of my favorites for sure.

02:26:34.000 Guaranteed fireworks, and that guy fights.

02:26:36.000 Oh, he landed that right hand.

02:26:40.000 Guaranteed fireworks when Yuri fights.

02:26:42.000 Nonstop action.

02:26:43.000 Just such a fucking warrior.

02:26:45.000 And so, like, dedicated to the way, you know?

02:26:49.000 He's an interesting cat.

02:26:50.000 Thin for light heavy.

02:26:52.000 Oh! Big shot there.

02:26:54.000 Yawn's starting to land now.

02:26:57.000 That, ooh.

02:26:59.000 That knee of the body's legit.

02:27:01.000 Interesting. Olberg favored.

02:27:03.000 That's interesting.

02:27:04.000 It was right off the feint, too.

02:27:05.000 Feinted the takedown, went right to the collar.

02:27:07.000 Went right to the tie clench.

02:27:12.000 Here's a little light around his feet this round.

02:27:22.000 He's hitting the legs a lot, too.

02:27:23.000 Mm-hmm.

02:27:24.000 In this round, for sure.

02:27:25.000 That inside low kick.

02:27:27.000 Just slapping them.

02:27:29.000 When Yon's leg kicks, it's fucking doing damage.

02:27:31.000 It's thudding.

02:27:32.000 See that one right there?

02:27:33.000 That was painful.

02:27:34.000 See, it's changing his position?

02:27:35.000 Yeah, that was painful.

02:27:36.000 Yeah. That was a hard one.

02:27:41.000 Well, Jan, you know, had a Muay Thai career before MMA.

02:27:45.000 He's a legit Muay Thai fighter.

02:27:48.000 Slightly lighter.

02:27:49.000 He was, like, fighting at 200, I think.

02:27:55.000 Dude, you look into Ankleia's background.

02:27:57.000 That motherfucker's never lost in anything.

02:27:59.000 Well, he lost to Paul Craig.

02:28:01.000 It's true.

02:28:02.000 I'm saying before he got to the UFC, you look at his background.

02:28:05.000 It's like, Jesus.

02:28:06.000 And even that fight, he was winning that fight.

02:28:08.000 He just slept on the triangle.

02:28:10.000 And got wrapped up with like, I think it was like two seconds to go or something crazy like that.

02:28:15.000 One second to go.

02:28:16.000 That's so brutal.

02:28:17.000 That's so brutal.

02:28:18.000 Because you know he can hang in for one second.

02:28:20.000 Yeah. Especially if you hear the...

02:28:23.000 Even if you go to sleep.

02:28:24.000 If you hear the claps for ten seconds.

02:28:26.000 Yeah. It's like, just pass out at that point.

02:28:30.000 It must have been tight.

02:28:31.000 Yeah, ride it out, man.

02:28:32.000 It's like Chael and Anderson.

02:28:34.000 You're like, what the fuck are you doing?

02:28:36.000 Dominating for four rounds.

02:28:37.000 I know.

02:28:37.000 That's the craziest one.

02:28:39.000 That's wild.

02:28:39.000 That's just self-sabotage.

02:28:40.000 And that's just Anderson coming in with a broken rib.

02:28:43.000 Mm-hmm.

02:28:48.000 Olberg definitely seems like he's landing more this round.

02:28:50.000 But the damaging shots are Bohovich.

02:28:54.000 They scored damage, number one.

02:28:57.000 But, you know, but Olberg is scoring more.

02:29:00.000 Like, those jabs right there.

02:29:04.000 Jan's just having a hard time closing the distance.

02:29:08.000 And this is only round two.

02:29:10.000 Damn, it's been, besides that girl fight against Molly, it's been all decisions again.

02:29:16.000 Well... Molly retired too after that.

02:29:18.000 Did she?

02:29:18.000 That makes sense.

02:29:19.000 Yeah. There's a certain skill gap you can't bridge.

02:29:26.000 There's not enough hours in the day.

02:29:28.000 Yeah, not enough hours in the day, not enough time in your life.

02:29:30.000 You're older, you're in your late 30s.

02:29:32.000 Yeah. I don't know how old she is, but she's in her 30s for sure.

02:29:37.000 Some of them, they just get to a point.

02:29:39.000 Jalen Turner was crazy because he said when he beat up Bobby Green after that, he lost his appetite for fighting.

02:29:45.000 That was that one with a real late stoppage.

02:29:47.000 That was in Austin.

02:29:48.000 That was bad.

02:29:50.000 That was a bad one.

02:29:51.000 You say you knew then, right?

02:29:52.000 It's kind of over.

02:29:53.000 I don't want to hurt anybody anymore.

02:29:54.000 I don't want to do that.

02:29:55.000 I get it.

02:29:55.000 I mean, he liked Bobby Green, too.

02:29:57.000 They were friends.

02:29:57.000 I get it.

02:29:58.000 So to put it on your friend like that, and then all the unnecessary punches, the referee should have stopped that fight quite a bit.

02:30:05.000 That was where he was already out, right?

02:30:06.000 Yeah. He was just getting tagged.

02:30:09.000 I don't remember who reffed that fight, but that was a bad one.

02:30:13.000 Yeah, he was belly down, right?

02:30:14.000 Uh-huh.

02:30:14.000 Just getting fucking...

02:30:15.000 Just hammered.

02:30:16.000 Just smashed.

02:30:18.000 Yeah, Bobby hasn't won a fight since he changed his name to King.

02:30:21.000 So he's like, fuck that, call me Bobby now.

02:30:23.000 He's going back to Bobby.

02:30:24.000 Is he?

02:30:24.000 Yeah. For real?

02:30:25.000 Yeah, he's like, I'm changing back to Bobby.

02:30:28.000 That's hilarious.

02:30:29.000 He's 0-3 since he changed the King.

02:30:30.000 That wheel kick?

02:30:32.000 Wow. Oh my goodness.

02:30:33.000 Mauricio Rufi is dangerous.

02:30:35.000 Bro, trouble.

02:30:36.000 He's like a giant Conner.

02:30:38.000 He really is.

02:30:40.000 He moves like Connery.

02:30:41.000 He's got that kind of style.

02:30:43.000 And that style, cardio-wise, in the third round, you're so explosive, you just can't run at that high gear for three rounds.

02:30:49.000 It's so fast-twitch-based.

02:30:52.000 It's not a good style for longevity, unless you're real sparing with your attacks.

02:30:57.000 And you have to have complete control.

02:30:59.000 So if a guy mauls you and just comes at you with a lot of combinations and hits you with a pace, it's hard.

02:31:04.000 Yeah, they catch up.

02:31:05.000 You get a grappler, can avoid the big shots.

02:31:08.000 Then in the third round, you're fucked.

02:31:09.000 And obviously, that weight class is filled with talent.

02:31:12.000 There's so much talent there.

02:31:14.000 I was discussing one guy, I won't say who it is, he's coming back to the UFC and his buddy's like, he's like, man, what matchup do you think?

02:31:21.000 He's like, we just need to give him an easy matchup for his first one.

02:31:24.000 I'm like, buddy, it's 2025 in the UFC.

02:31:27.000 There's no cakewalks.

02:31:28.000 There used to be cakewalks.

02:31:30.000 There was guys like, thank God they gave me him.

02:31:31.000 There's really not that...

02:31:33.000 With the Contender Series, it's just full of these young fucking lions that you've never heard of.

02:31:39.000 Yeah, the guys that have zero fights in the UFC are super fucking dangerous.

02:31:42.000 That's what's crazy.

02:31:43.000 Zero fights and they come in at a world-class level.

02:31:46.000 And they're like well-rounded at everything.

02:31:48.000 Especially these motherfuckers from Russia.

02:31:50.000 Yeah. There's so many Dagestan guys that are coming in and they're like, good lord, they're so dangerous.

02:31:56.000 There's no gimme fights anymore.

02:31:57.000 No. Oberg seems to be outpointing them here.

02:32:03.000 He's a little more active.

02:32:04.000 Yeah, like right there.

02:32:05.000 Definitely still speed advantage.

02:32:07.000 Mm-hmm.

02:32:08.000 And Jan hasn't landed any big shots to the head, like the big one that's going to really change the course of the fight.

02:32:14.000 No, he looks a little slower.

02:32:16.000 But he's just dealing with a very tall, fast dude.

02:32:19.000 It's going to get weird for Jan.

02:32:20.000 He loses this one, you're off two years.

02:32:23.000 Mm-hmm.

02:32:24.000 The division in the state it's in, it's tough, man.

02:32:28.000 Well, we'll see.

02:32:29.000 There's still three minutes to go.

02:32:30.000 How fucking crazy is MMA?

02:32:31.000 It's like Alec Woganowski, before he lost those two, he was like, there's arguing he's the pound-for-pound number one.

02:32:38.000 He was on the, like, number two.

02:32:40.000 And then three months later, he's not even on the list.

02:32:42.000 Yep. Leon Edwards.

02:32:43.000 Yep. Before he lost to Bilal, was, I think, number five pound-for-pound.

02:32:47.000 Now he's not even on the list.

02:32:49.000 Crazy. He loses this one, you're kind of fucked.

02:32:51.000 MMA's wild, man.

02:32:53.000 Yeah, I'm with another good, strong low kick.

02:32:56.000 But he needs more than that.

02:32:57.000 He needs some head shots.

02:32:59.000 He needs to get the judge's attention.

02:33:03.000 I wonder what the live odds are right now.

02:33:06.000 Olberg, for sure.

02:33:06.000 Gotta be Olberg, right?

02:33:10.000 Just from a volume perspective.

02:33:12.000 Yeah, just active.

02:33:18.000 He looks like he's gonna spin.

02:33:20.000 That was close.

02:33:21.000 He's heavily bladed.

02:33:25.000 Good left hook right hand.

02:33:27.000 Is it?

02:33:31.000 Interesting. But still, Olberg's favorite.

02:33:41.000 It's just Jan is having a hard time connecting.

02:33:44.000 And Olberg's not slowing down.

02:33:47.000 Olberg's done such a much better job of pacing himself now.

02:33:50.000 And obviously he's in better condition, too.

02:33:52.000 Yes, and his distance.

02:33:53.000 Like, look, he's never stopped hopping around.

02:33:55.000 It's fucking tough to take two years off, then you jump in with a killer as ranked number six, man.

02:33:59.000 It's not easy.

02:34:01.000 Especially a young dude, all hungry.

02:34:04.000 It's like Gutter Nelson taking two years off and jumping back in.

02:34:08.000 It's fucking tough, man.

02:34:12.000 Good kick.

02:34:13.000 Sean Brady's favored.

02:34:15.000 Is he?

02:34:16.000 Yeah, Sean Brady's favorite.

02:34:17.000 Over four and a half rounds is also favorite.

02:34:19.000 Yes. Interesting.

02:34:20.000 Yes, this card has the potential to be, you know, if you're looking for knockouts, this might not be the card for you.

02:34:30.000 It'd be tough for Brady to stop Leon.

02:34:32.000 Yeah, very tough.

02:34:34.000 It's going to be interesting to see how he fares on the feet because Leon's such a technician on the feet.

02:34:40.000 He's such a sniper.

02:34:41.000 But he's also going to be super wary about the takedown.

02:34:43.000 But he's been trying to take people down to kind of like prove a point, like he did with Kamaru.

02:34:48.000 Yeah. I hope he doesn't try to do that with Sean.

02:34:50.000 Bad idea.

02:34:52.000 Yeah, it's a different level.

02:34:54.000 And Brady just, it's just like in the fifth round, you look at that Gilbert fight, it's like he had more takedowns in the fifth round.

02:35:00.000 Like his cardio is insane.

02:35:02.000 Yeah, he's very fit.

02:35:06.000 Holberg seems to be walking away from it.

02:35:10.000 Olberg ain't getting a title shot after this one, though.

02:35:13.000 No. But it puts him in the top.

02:35:15.000 For sure.

02:35:17.000 Yeah, top five.

02:35:19.000 He just hasn't done anything, like, real spectacular.

02:35:23.000 Olberg was aware of Roundtree and Jamal Hill would be fun.

02:35:29.000 Jan's still pushing, though, man.

02:35:30.000 He's going after him.

02:35:31.000 Good low kicks there.

02:35:32.000 Oh, oh, oh!

02:35:33.000 Oh, he clipped him with that left hand.

02:35:36.000 Yeah, Jan can't get his range.

02:35:40.000 Good fight.

02:35:42.000 Solid fight.

02:35:44.000 They're just yelling at each other.

02:35:46.000 Fucking warriors.

02:35:49.000 Guys being guys.

02:35:51.000 Yeah. Just a couple of bros.

02:35:52.000 Just a couple of bros.

02:35:54.000 Fist fight and shout at each other.

02:35:55.000 Yeah, I think Oberg probably got that decision.

02:35:57.000 Yeah. Slight decision.

02:35:59.000 I'm very interested to see how Sean deals with the stand-up.

02:36:03.000 You know, because Sean's stand-up has come a long way.

02:36:06.000 But there's levels.

02:36:07.000 Big... Big difference.

02:36:09.000 But then there's a big difference on the feet, too, right?

02:36:11.000 So it's all about who and their will, right?

02:36:14.000 Right. Well, if Sean can get him down early, like Bilal did, it would be a big thing.

02:36:20.000 And Bilal set the blueprint, constant pressure.

02:36:23.000 But I do think you have to take into consideration the fact that that was a 5 a.m. fight, which is just nuts.

02:36:29.000 It sucks, but you're pros.

02:36:32.000 You just gotta go, man.

02:36:33.000 How crazy is that?

02:36:34.000 Everybody in the audience has been drunk since 2 in the morning.

02:36:38.000 It's tough.

02:36:39.000 They're all exhausted.

02:36:41.000 They're fucking filled with beer.

02:36:44.000 There's people sleeping.

02:36:45.000 They were sleeping.

02:36:48.000 They must be so exhausted.

02:36:50.000 I can't imagine going to see a fight that the main event starts at 5 in the morning.

02:36:55.000 I think the main event was like 6 in the morning.

02:36:56.000 Yeah, that's rough.

02:36:58.000 It's ridiculous.

02:36:59.000 It's terrible.

02:37:00.000 Why don't you just do it this way?

02:37:01.000 Just have the fights on early.

02:37:03.000 That was a pay-per-view, right?

02:37:05.000 Yeah. That's why.

02:37:06.000 Yeah. But still, have a pay-per-view at 3 in the afternoon.

02:37:09.000 Who cares?

02:37:10.000 I prefer it.

02:37:11.000 Yeah, who cares?

02:37:11.000 It's Saturday.

02:37:13.000 It's Saturday.

02:37:13.000 People will still buy it.

02:37:14.000 They watch football in the day.

02:37:16.000 True. Why wouldn't they watch a big fight during the day?

02:37:18.000 Just let them know in advance.

02:37:19.000 It's 3 p.m. start.

02:37:21.000 The only one who complained is Tom Aspinall.

02:37:23.000 The only one who complained is Tom Aspinall.

02:37:29.000 29-28.

02:37:32.000 Carlos. Yep.

02:37:34.000 Yep. Yeah, it's going to get dicey for you on now.

02:37:37.000 Good decision.

02:37:38.000 Yeah, hard road for him.

02:37:40.000 It's sports, man.

02:37:41.000 You know?

02:37:42.000 I mean, two years off.

02:37:45.000 Not really a tune-up fight.

02:37:46.000 Tough fight.

02:37:47.000 Fuck. There's no tune-up fights.

02:37:49.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:37:50.000 The UFC, there's not much they can do for you anymore.

02:37:52.000 That's what's crazy, because boxing, I think, has it right.

02:37:54.000 When a guy hasn't been fighting for a while, give him some fucking...

02:37:57.000 Shake off the dust, give him a guy you don't know.

02:37:59.000 Number 30 guy, right out of Tijuana.

02:38:02.000 Pop, pop.

02:38:03.000 The UFC doesn't have that.

02:38:04.000 Yeah, I know.

02:38:04.000 Gotta be ready to go.

02:38:06.000 Yeah, and they don't have managers that set their fighter up for victory either.

02:38:10.000 Like on the undercards, now you're going to face a brawler, now you're going to face a short guy, now you're going to face a tall guy.

02:38:19.000 By the time a guy gets to a championship level in boxing, they've been tried and tested.

02:38:25.000 It's very systematic.

02:38:26.000 UFC's not like that.

02:38:29.000 Did you see the Lamont Roach-Gervonta Davis fight?

02:38:32.000 Yes. I had Lamont Roach, didn't you?

02:38:35.000 Yeah. Well, especially with that knockdown.

02:38:37.000 That's a real knockdown.

02:38:39.000 You take a knee, that's a 10-8 round.

02:38:41.000 And Gervonta was like, I had something in my eye.

02:38:43.000 I'm like, I don't give a fuck.

02:38:44.000 You took a knee?

02:38:45.000 You know the rules.

02:38:46.000 That's the rules.

02:38:47.000 That's the rules.

02:38:48.000 Dem the rules.

02:38:48.000 And they didn't have the replay ready, so they didn't look at the replay.

02:38:52.000 Boxing's so corrupt, dude.

02:38:53.000 That's a little bit.

02:38:55.000 But Dana get involved in it.

02:38:57.000 Might help it.

02:38:58.000 Perhaps. Or, you know, can't change the tiger stripes.

02:39:04.000 Well, you see their pay structure.

02:39:07.000 It's also far away out from getting done.

02:39:09.000 Was that pay structure legit, though?

02:39:11.000 Yeah. Was it legit?

02:39:13.000 Yeah. I mean, pretty sure it's legit.

02:39:15.000 But that actually helps boxing overall.

02:39:19.000 The top dogs aren't going to eat like they are now with $40, $50 million paydays.

02:39:23.000 But the middle guys that can grow boxing, that's what it's going to do.

02:39:27.000 Right, but if you want to get the top guys, you're going to have to pay them.

02:39:30.000 Correct. On that pay structure, you ain't getting any of the big fish.

02:39:33.000 Yeah, you're not.

02:39:33.000 They're not.

02:39:34.000 Obviously, they got Canelo to get away from the Jake Paul fight, right?

02:39:38.000 Canelo was going to fight Jake Paul, which would have been crazy.

02:39:41.000 Wow. And then they said, no, no, no, no, no.

02:39:45.000 Turkey came along and said, listen, open up the fucking case from Pulp Fiction.

02:39:50.000 Yeah. That dude got all the money, huh?

02:39:55.000 They got so much money.

02:39:56.000 They can do whatever they want.

02:39:57.000 They could just throw money at the sport.

02:39:59.000 It's good and bad.

02:40:00.000 We get the fights you want to see, but that's also, you know...

02:40:03.000 It's good.

02:40:03.000 There's some darkness there.

02:40:04.000 The fights you want to see is what's most important for the fans, and they're putting shit together.

02:40:08.000 They made Jared Anderson fight Bricoli.

02:40:11.000 There's a lot of fights that people didn't want.

02:40:14.000 Which is like Jared Anderson, that was another example.

02:40:16.000 Young, undefeated heavyweight, on his way up.

02:40:20.000 And everyone was like, don't take that fight.

02:40:22.000 You're not ready for that fight.

02:40:23.000 And then they offered him a pile of loot.

02:40:26.000 He don't say less.

02:40:27.000 And he got beat up.

02:40:29.000 And then Bacoli getting stopped by Joseph Parker, coming in fat with no notice at all.

02:40:34.000 Nothing. It looked like he was totally out of shape.

02:40:37.000 Something crazy.

02:40:38.000 Yeah, super short notice.

02:40:40.000 Yeah, crazy.

02:40:41.000 Crazy fight.

02:40:43.000 I was looking forward to that fight.

02:40:45.000 But Boccoli, you gotta give him a camp.

02:40:48.000 He's not ready.

02:40:49.000 But Joseph Parker looks really fucking good right now, too.

02:40:52.000 He's reinvented.

02:40:54.000 Do you know him at all?

02:40:55.000 No. He's awesome.

02:40:56.000 That's cool.

02:40:59.000 That Dubois guy, though.

02:41:00.000 Holy shit, man.

02:41:01.000 The way he took out Anthony Joshua.

02:41:03.000 Jake wants to fight Anthony Joshua now?

02:41:07.000 Said he wants to fight Anthony Joshua in 2026.

02:41:09.000 And the haters online are like, yeah, do it!

02:41:11.000 Well, they're like, what about now?

02:41:13.000 They're like, what about fight them now?

02:41:14.000 He's like, no, I want to wait until 2026.

02:41:16.000 Like, okay.

02:41:17.000 Put on weight?

02:41:18.000 Put on all the steroids, every steroid they have.

02:41:21.000 Snake venom, scorpion venom.

02:41:23.000 Oh, by the way, Rollo reached out to me, John Rollo, my boy, and he, him and his buddy, Kimo, actually own a company, he was telling me, that sells this blue scorpion shit.

02:41:35.000 They're involved with a blue scorpion venom company.

02:41:39.000 He said he gave it to Matt Serra.

02:41:40.000 It really helped him.

02:41:42.000 So he wants to hook you up.

02:41:44.000 Frank Miri says on it.

02:41:46.000 Shit. Yeah.

02:41:49.000 I'm already hooked up with it.

02:41:50.000 He wants to get you some, Jordan.

02:41:52.000 I'll have some.

02:41:52.000 All right.

02:41:53.000 I'll have him send you some.

02:41:54.000 I'll take some too.

02:41:56.000 We'll see what happens.

02:41:57.000 I'm going to start slow.

02:41:58.000 I'm going to find out if I get poisoned.

02:42:02.000 What the fuck are we doing?

02:42:04.000 We're drinking.

02:42:05.000 Venom from Scorpion.

02:42:07.000 That is weird.

02:42:08.000 That's weird.

02:42:08.000 He's got the dopest tattoos.

02:42:10.000 Yeah, his tattoos are good.

02:42:11.000 Brady, that Japanese on the back.

02:42:16.000 He's such a fucking gorilla when he gets people to the ground.

02:42:19.000 Look at the size of his back.

02:42:20.000 Those muscles in his back.

02:42:22.000 There's muscles that aren't supposed to be there.

02:42:25.000 They're so dense.

02:42:27.000 It's weird when you see him walk.

02:42:29.000 That's why he's so fucking strong.

02:42:30.000 Oh, yeah.

02:42:30.000 It's all back.

02:42:31.000 It's all squeeze muscles, you know?

02:42:33.000 Are you still fucking with the creatine gummies, Joe?

02:42:36.000 Oh, yeah.

02:42:36.000 I love them.

02:42:37.000 And do you feel so?

02:42:38.000 Because I looked into creatine gummies, and I heard when they bake the gummies, it takes away the potency of the creatine.

02:42:46.000 Yeah. So when you think you're getting five milligrams, you're not.

02:42:49.000 Oh, interesting.

02:42:49.000 I did not know that.

02:42:51.000 I feel great, though.

02:42:52.000 But I'm not taking five milligrams.

02:42:54.000 I'm taking like 30. Yeah, I'm up to 20. I'm taking like 10 gummies at a time.

02:42:58.000 Yeah. I wonder.

02:43:00.000 I wonder.

02:43:01.000 I'll try.

02:43:01.000 I'll try like regular creatine to see if I feel a difference.

02:43:04.000 Yeah, see if it knows the difference.

02:43:05.000 Because one of the things that's really big is if I have a night where I don't get any sleep.

02:43:09.000 That's a big factor.

02:43:11.000 And there's been studies done on improving cognitive performance when you're sleep-deprived with creatine.

02:43:17.000 Like, no loss in cognitive performance.

02:43:19.000 That's wild.

02:43:20.000 That's wild.

02:43:20.000 It's like one of the only things that I could even think of.

02:43:23.000 Because even caffeine, like you're awake, but you're still out of it.

02:43:26.000 No, you're still out of it.

02:43:26.000 A little goofy.

02:43:28.000 No, that methylene blue and creatine.

02:43:31.000 That's all I do, Doug.

02:43:31.000 And then scorpion venom.

02:43:32.000 Scorpion venom.

02:43:33.000 And then every peptide in the book.

02:43:35.000 Name a peptide.

02:43:38.000 Feel great.

02:43:40.000 Well, dude, you're crazy strong right now.

02:43:42.000 That thing that you did where you were holding, what was the amount of weight you were lifting?

02:43:48.000 What was that?

02:43:49.000 The deadlift?

02:43:49.000 315? Where you guys were holding it?

02:43:53.000 Who could hold the longest?

02:43:54.000 It was me, Thor, and my boy, Hooper.

02:43:57.000 Who's also a strongman.

02:43:58.000 And how much time did those guys hold it for?

02:44:01.000 I think it was like 47 seconds and then Thor was like 58 seconds.

02:44:06.000 And what'd you get?

02:44:07.000 A minute something.

02:44:08.000 That's nuts.

02:44:09.000 Nuts. That's nuts that you're technically stronger than the mountain.

02:44:13.000 That's bananas, dude.

02:44:16.000 Wow. That's crazy strong.

02:44:18.000 Yeah. You must feel like a fucking beast right now.

02:44:21.000 Yeah, pretty beastly.

02:44:22.000 As long as I'm ready to fight that guy in the plane, I'm like, what'd you say?

02:44:26.000 That guy.

02:44:27.000 I gotta use his power for something.

02:44:29.000 I did a lift with Mitchell Hooper and Flex Lewis and Dragon Slayer in Vegas, and I was in a camp for something.

02:44:40.000 One of the strongest I'd ever been, and it was just a complete embarrassment.

02:44:45.000 Yeah, Mitchell's a special guy, man.

02:44:52.000 Because he's one of the strongmen and he has a personality.

02:44:54.000 He's such a good dude.

02:44:56.000 And he's not that big.

02:44:58.000 No, he's not preposterous.

02:45:01.000 I was just sitting down eating food and they asked me to do it.

02:45:04.000 I didn't even want to do it.

02:45:08.000 How much does that guy have a fighter's nose?

02:45:11.000 That nose is flattened and twisted and torqued to the side.

02:45:15.000 When he's looking at you head on, it's like his nose is taking a hard right.

02:45:21.000 Yeah, I wanted to challenge those guys to 225.

02:45:23.000 That's my shit.

02:45:25.000 That's why I wanted to challenge them.

02:45:26.000 Hold 225?

02:45:27.000 Bench press 225.

02:45:29.000 Oh, as many times as possible?

02:45:30.000 Because I asked Thor, and he told me his record.

02:45:32.000 I was like, I beat that a while ago.

02:45:34.000 And he's like, let's do it right now.

02:45:35.000 I'm like, right now.

02:45:36.000 Like, we're in the middle of a photo shoot.

02:45:37.000 I'm like, I ain't doing it right now.

02:45:38.000 And I was like, let's wait to after.

02:45:40.000 But we'll do 225, 315, 225.

02:45:43.000 And see who can do the most.

02:45:44.000 And we'll just combine it.

02:45:45.000 What's his record of 225?

02:45:47.000 Oh, I think he said like 30-something.

02:45:49.000 What can you do?

02:45:50.000 40? Really?

02:45:53.000 At 225?

02:45:53.000 That's so crazy!

02:45:55.000 That's fucking nuts.

02:45:55.000 That's so crazy!

02:45:56.000 My strongest ever.

02:45:57.000 I was like 225.

02:45:58.000 I weighed like 225, and I did 27. That's impressive.

02:46:01.000 Jesus Christ.

02:46:02.000 That's so crazy.

02:46:03.000 Every Monday, Wednesday, I do 225.

02:46:05.000 I usually get at least 20-something the first time.

02:46:08.000 I do 315 for 5, and I do 225 for again 20-something.

02:46:12.000 So I go bam, bam, bam every Monday.

02:46:14.000 But when you max out, you can get to 40. Yeah.

02:46:16.000 If I do just one, I can do 40. That's so nuts.

02:46:20.000 It's probably almost a 500 pound bench press.

02:46:22.000 Pretty close.

02:46:22.000 But it's all I like to do.

02:46:25.000 That's my workout.

02:46:26.000 Just bench?

02:46:27.000 Yeah. I'm such a meathead these days.

02:46:31.000 It's bench, deadlift, and pull-ups.

02:46:33.000 That's all I do.

02:46:35.000 How many pull-ups can you do?

02:46:37.000 I usually do like five sets of 20. But like good 20 pull-ups.

02:46:41.000 Straight arm?

02:46:42.000 Straight arm.

02:46:43.000 Like proper pull-ups.

02:46:44.000 That's a lot for a big guy.

02:46:44.000 What do you weigh?

02:46:45.000 Like 250?

02:46:46.000 That's a lot.

02:46:46.000 Like 240 something.

02:46:47.000 Jesus Christ, that's a lot of weight.

02:46:49.000 I'm so fucking strong right now.

02:46:51.000 That's nuts, dude.

02:46:52.000 Science is amazing.

02:46:54.000 Yeah. I wish I was that strong.

02:46:56.000 It's the scorpion venom.

02:46:57.000 It must be.

02:46:58.000 Look at Leon Edwards.

02:46:59.000 He looks hyped.

02:47:04.000 Here we go.

02:47:06.000 It's the proper time for Leon 2 right now, you know?

02:47:10.000 Yeah. Here we go.

02:47:16.000 Well, he probably wants revenge after that Bilal fight.

02:47:18.000 You know, that was a bad fight for him.

02:47:21.000 That was a tough night.

02:47:22.000 He just didn't seem into it either, right?

02:47:24.000 Like something was off.

02:47:25.000 Well, it's fucking five o'clock in the morning.

02:47:26.000 True. I mean, how?

02:47:28.000 How? How can you fight at your best when you're up all night?

02:47:32.000 But also, he's the champ.

02:47:33.000 Why wouldn't you set up so the champ's in ideal conditions?

02:47:37.000 I get it.

02:47:38.000 If Bilal was the champ coming over there, you're like, he'll fight in London, but it has to be at 5 a.m.

02:47:41.000 That makes sense.

02:47:42.000 When you're the champ in your hometown, why the fuck we don't have 5 a.m.?

02:47:46.000 I don't know.

02:47:47.000 The whole thing is crazy.

02:47:48.000 Just the idea of getting people to fight at that time.

02:47:50.000 But there's also a lot of X-Factors we don't know behind the scenes.

02:47:53.000 Like UFC's like, first of all, TV right deal.

02:47:55.000 Only time we could do it with the broadcast.

02:47:57.000 But how is that possible?

02:47:58.000 Only time we get the arena.

02:47:59.000 Who knows?

02:47:59.000 It's ESPN+.

02:48:00.000 They could just always have it on.

02:48:02.000 Anytime. But it can't be that easy where the UFC just decides.

02:48:05.000 I bet there's some other X-Factors that go into it.

02:48:07.000 It has to be.

02:48:07.000 Pay-per-view buys in America are bigger than everywhere else.

02:48:10.000 It has to be that.

02:48:11.000 And it has to be the people who are used to buying it at 7 o'clock at night.

02:48:14.000 Yeah. It has to be.

02:48:16.000 That's the only thing that makes sense.

02:48:18.000 But it's even 7 o'clock at night.

02:48:20.000 That means, you know, when you're on the West Coast, like, the main card doesn't start until 7 p.m.

02:48:27.000 On the East Coast, it's 10 p.m.

02:48:29.000 10. Tough.

02:48:30.000 10's late.

02:48:31.000 Super late.

02:48:32.000 Yeah, main event is not on until, like, 1.30 sometimes.

02:48:35.000 Fuck off.

02:48:35.000 Yeah. Because sometimes it's a four-hour card.

02:48:38.000 Yeah. Here we go.

02:48:41.000 Leon Rocky Edwards.

02:48:43.000 How old's Leon now?

02:48:44.000 35? Yeah, it has to be 34, 35. Jamie, how old's Leon?

02:48:48.000 Losing his hair in the back?

02:48:50.000 He's been losing his hair.

02:48:51.000 He should shave that shit.

02:48:53.000 33. Wow, okay.

02:48:55.000 Still on his prime.

02:48:57.000 32 and 33. Here we go.

02:49:02.000 See Bruce Buffer's suit tonight.

02:49:04.000 No. He's looking fucking snazzy.

02:49:06.000 He always looks snazzy.

02:49:07.000 This is a fucking...

02:49:08.000 Bruce has the best suits.

02:49:09.000 He must have a warehouse filled with them, too, because he gets a new one forever.

02:49:12.000 Yeah, he's a sponsor.

02:49:13.000 Look at this thing.

02:49:14.000 Ah, look at that thing.

02:49:15.000 Oh, fuck, yeah.

02:49:19.000 Who's better than that guy?

02:49:20.000 Can you imagine UFC without Bruce Buffer?

02:49:22.000 Nope. Like, what the fuck are we going to do?

02:49:24.000 When you have a main card, I want to see his head looking like a grape.

02:49:26.000 Yeah. When he's screaming, it's time!

02:49:31.000 That's how he's going to stroke out one day.

02:49:33.000 He's going to be like 80 years old someday.

02:49:34.000 That's the proper way to go, too.

02:49:36.000 Fuck yeah.

02:49:37.000 On his shield.

02:49:38.000 Fuck yeah.

02:49:38.000 Cards go fly in the air.

02:49:40.000 Just a slight delay and they just wheel him off.

02:49:42.000 The whole audience gives it like a fucking 10 count.

02:49:45.000 That'd be sick, dude.

02:49:45.000 ADCC 2022, he had like another event that he had to do.

02:49:49.000 And like ADCC, like the scheduling wasn't perfect, so he was a little bit late.

02:49:54.000 And I was trying to convince Joe to go out.

02:49:56.000 I'm like, dude, just announce me.

02:49:57.000 It'll be fine.

02:50:01.000 I've never announced anybody in a fight.

02:50:02.000 I've only done it at weigh-ins.

02:50:06.000 I'd be terrified to fuck someone's name up.

02:50:09.000 That's not my cup of tea.

02:50:10.000 Well, he fucks names up sometimes.

02:50:12.000 That's easy.

02:50:13.000 When he fucks up, I'm like, fuck.

02:50:15.000 I know.

02:50:16.000 That's your only job.

02:50:18.000 Some of those names are fucking hard.

02:50:20.000 My biggest anxiety at the UFC is getting the names right at the Wayans.

02:50:24.000 Just like some of them.

02:50:25.000 Those undercards when it's like a Dagestanian fighter we're not familiar with?

02:50:29.000 Oh, yeah.

02:50:29.000 It's not happening.

02:50:30.000 And I have to have the people in the back, they say it to me in my ear.

02:50:34.000 I'm like, say it again?

02:50:35.000 And then I write it out phonetically like, Yeah, bro.

02:50:39.000 You have these weird names.

02:50:40.000 You have to spell it out the way it sounds.

02:50:43.000 Because there's like C's and Z's in there that don't make any sense.

02:50:46.000 Like, what's that doing there?

02:50:48.000 What's this fucking silent X?

02:50:51.000 Kudos to you.

02:50:52.000 Like, even GFL or Game Bread, like, you want to go in the Octagon or the cage and interview the fight and have to say their name?

02:50:58.000 Like, it's probably not my cup of tea, man.

02:51:01.000 Let me look at the roster.

02:51:04.000 Here we go.

02:51:05.000 I'm pumped for this one.

02:51:07.000 Here we fucking go.

02:51:09.000 Yeah, it's a great fight.

02:51:10.000 And Leon in London, he's going to be fired up.

02:51:13.000 You would hope.

02:51:14.000 Fuck yeah.

02:51:15.000 How could he not be?

02:51:16.000 The whole audience is going to be for him.

02:51:17.000 Headshot dead.

02:51:19.000 Look at me now!

02:51:21.000 Look at me now!

02:51:23.000 What a speech that was.

02:51:28.000 That was one of the greatest moments ever.

02:51:30.000 That head kick in the fifth round.

02:51:31.000 Fight he's losing.

02:51:33.000 And John Anik with the perfect call.

02:51:35.000 Like John Anik said, he could quit right now, but that is not the cloth from which he was cut.

02:51:40.000 Boom! Head kick.

02:51:42.000 And his coach was like, come on, do it now.

02:51:43.000 Come on, Rocky!

02:51:46.000 Don't let him bully you, son!

02:51:48.000 Fuck, dude.

02:51:49.000 Don't let him bully you!

02:51:50.000 You ever heard it with the Rocky music?

02:51:53.000 If you ever feel like you don't want to work out, listen to that.

02:51:57.000 Do that, yeah.

02:52:00.000 You get fired up.

02:52:01.000 Here we go.

02:52:04.000 Sean Brady has so many tattoos.

02:52:06.000 Yeah, he's got no room left.

02:52:07.000 Dude, Sean looks way stronger.

02:52:10.000 Oh, he's gonna be physically stronger.

02:52:11.000 Leon's gonna be in for a surprise, because he's like, yo, he's so short.

02:52:14.000 If that happens, but I mean, you gotta close that distance of danger with this fucking...

02:52:20.000 It's also tough on them, because remember, he's supposed to fight JDM, a straight striker.

02:52:24.000 Mm-hmm.

02:52:24.000 Right. He's supposed to fight Jack, and then they switch it.

02:52:26.000 Well, they gave him some time, right?

02:52:28.000 How much time did they give him before they switched it?

02:52:30.000 Four weeks?

02:52:31.000 That's it?

02:52:31.000 Yeah. Yeah, that is different.

02:52:33.000 That's tough.

02:52:33.000 What happened again in the Balal fight with Sean?

02:52:36.000 He got beat up.

02:52:37.000 He just got beat up.

02:52:38.000 He couldn't get him down.

02:52:39.000 Here we go.

02:52:39.000 He couldn't get him down.

02:52:40.000 He couldn't get him down.

02:52:40.000 Balal just beat the brakes off him.

02:52:42.000 Just defend the takedown and fucked his face up.

02:52:44.000 Sean looking to put a lot of pressure on him just like Balal did.

02:52:48.000 I mean, Balal really gave the game plan.

02:52:51.000 Uh-huh.

02:52:51.000 Oh, good kick to the body.

02:52:52.000 Easier said than done, though.

02:52:54.000 Especially when you're orthodox and you're fighting Leon and he's got that powerful left kick that's opened up.

02:52:59.000 And he has a reach advantage.

02:53:00.000 And he gets that kick to the body a few times.

02:53:02.000 You're not the same.

02:53:04.000 Left hand to the body.

02:53:07.000 And look, he's got his distance down.

02:53:09.000 He's got his distance down.

02:53:10.000 Showing that Philly fade.

02:53:12.000 This is the difference is the management of the striking distance.

02:53:16.000 Leon is so good at that.

02:53:18.000 Yeah, but he has to be super careful in here.

02:53:20.000 Yeah, because right there.

02:53:21.000 Oh, fuck, dude.

02:53:22.000 The counters.

02:53:23.000 They're so crisp, and there's no fat in them, no wasted movement, straight down the pipe.

02:53:30.000 If you're Brady, you can't go for the takedown too early, because that's what Leon's expecting.

02:53:34.000 He's got to open something up.

02:53:35.000 But he can't stay on the outside.

02:53:37.000 You know what the difference is?

02:53:38.000 Bilal got his respect on the feet, and then started laying takedowns, if you remember.

02:53:42.000 Sean just landed a left hook there, and now they're in a clinch.

02:53:45.000 Because it's going to be tough to beat Leon if you're just straight grappling.

02:53:49.000 This is interesting that Leon's choosing to clinch with him.

02:53:52.000 Nice knee to the body by Leon.

02:53:54.000 He is, man.

02:53:57.000 I was surprised when he took Kamaru down.

02:53:58.000 His grappling is no fucking joke.

02:54:03.000 And remember, in the last round, he got on top of Bilal and was smashing him with elbows.

02:54:07.000 Remember that?

02:54:08.000 Cut him open.

02:54:09.000 Just a little too late.

02:54:11.000 But if you remember that Bilal fight, I've watched it a few times.

02:54:13.000 Bilal was landing like a motherfucker on the feet.

02:54:16.000 Yes, and constant pressure.

02:54:18.000 A lot of pressure, constant, got his respect on the feet, and then it opened up the takedown.

02:54:22.000 Sean's already cut.

02:54:23.000 cut on the left eye yeah It's just interesting that Leon is allowing the clinch.

02:54:35.000 I'm surprised.

02:54:36.000 Well, he's stuffing that underhook pretty good with that thigh pry.

02:54:39.000 I just would think that...

02:54:41.000 Oh! Nice combination!

02:54:43.000 That's what you gotta do.

02:54:44.000 You gotta earn the respect and then the takedown will be there.

02:54:46.000 Yeah. Yeah, it's too good.

02:54:48.000 His takedown offense is too good just to shoot.

02:54:50.000 Yeah, that's a nice combination by Sean.

02:54:52.000 That's great.

02:54:54.000 And this is five rounds, son.

02:54:56.000 Yes, sir.

02:54:59.000 Oh, fuck.

02:55:04.000 good combination They usually always have Paddy on these London cards, but he's on that Miami card.

02:55:17.000 Same for Miami.

02:55:19.000 Bro, that's a crazy fight.

02:55:20.000 Him and Chandler?

02:55:21.000 So interesting.

02:55:22.000 That should be bananas.

02:55:24.000 I love Paddy.

02:55:25.000 I love Chandler, too.

02:55:26.000 I'm surprised at how big Paddy is.

02:55:28.000 Like, when he fought Bobby Green, I was like, Jesus.

02:55:30.000 He's massive, dude.

02:55:31.000 He's so big for 55. The UFC brought him up right.

02:55:36.000 They brought him up the right way.

02:55:37.000 Oh, Leon caught him with the left hand there.

02:55:39.000 Yeah, he did.

02:55:46.000 Leon's making it hard in the clinch.

02:55:48.000 He's putting that hand super deep in the thigh, so Brady's underhook doesn't really have the ability to do anything.

02:55:54.000 And those knees to the body are nice.

02:55:56.000 There's a nice straight left boat.

02:55:59.000 Like, Brady's got to get him in the clinch and get the underhook and immediately move him around with it.

02:56:03.000 Otherwise, he's not going to make anything happen with it.

02:56:05.000 And so far, no attempt at all at shooting.

02:56:10.000 Like, even in these positions, he's not...

02:56:12.000 Okay, now he is.

02:56:15.000 This is where strength is going to be the difference.

02:56:19.000 Yeah, let's see if he can do something here.

02:56:25.000 Yeah, because his strength is fucking beastly.

02:56:29.000 Look at the back on that motherfucker.

02:56:31.000 I mean, Jesus Christ.

02:56:33.000 It's like he's got a tumor.

02:56:40.000 And what is he?

02:56:40.000 He's like 5'7"?

02:56:42.000 5'10"?

02:56:44.000 No. Yeah, he's 5'10".

02:56:45.000 I think he's 5'10".

02:56:47.000 Leon is 6'2".

02:56:49.000 Yeah. Where does Sean walk around at?

02:56:57.000 He's got to be 200+.

02:56:58.000 Yeah, he's a big fucking bull.

02:56:59.000 I was listed at 5'9".

02:57:01.000 Really? It said 5'10"?

02:57:02.000 Leon's 6'0".

02:57:04.000 No. Leon is taller than that.

02:57:07.000 I bet you Sean Brady's...

02:57:08.000 He definitely said 6'2 for Leon.

02:57:10.000 Yeah. I bet you Sean Brady in person is 5'8, 5'7.

02:57:13.000 I was 6'4 in my basketball programs, too.

02:57:15.000 Nice. Definitely not.

02:57:17.000 Here it goes.

02:57:18.000 Takedown. Here we go.

02:57:19.000 He's flat.

02:57:19.000 No time, though.

02:57:20.000 Very little time.

02:57:22.000 Very little time.

02:57:22.000 But at least he's on top.

02:57:23.000 Wins in the round, though, doesn't he?

02:57:25.000 Depends. If he can get off some shots.

02:57:28.000 It's definitely...

02:57:29.000 It'd be the most action, really.

02:57:30.000 And he landed on the feet a little more.

02:57:32.000 Mm-hmm.

02:57:33.000 That's probably one round for Brady.

02:57:36.000 Man, I'd like to see that takedown landed earlier, see him set that up.

02:57:40.000 But at least we got a takedown by Brady early, too.

02:57:46.000 Let's see.

02:57:47.000 Three to go.

02:57:50.000 What commercials are you getting, Jamie?

02:57:54.000 I have the same ZipRecruiter commercial.

02:57:56.000 I keep showing it to me.

02:57:57.000 Oh, this isn't a ZipRecruiter.

02:57:58.000 Let's keep getting the same three or four commercials.

02:58:00.000 Power Whacker, Weed Whacker.

02:58:04.000 Lawn... Fucking...

02:58:05.000 Equipment. You never see any good car commercials anymore.

02:58:10.000 There's nothing dope out there.

02:58:12.000 A good commercial?

02:58:13.000 Yeah, for the cars.

02:58:14.000 Look at them breathing heavy, man.

02:58:15.000 Dude, they used to have commercials of, like, Ford carrying, like, Chevys.

02:58:20.000 Yeah, it was cool.

02:58:20.000 Like, up a mountain.

02:58:21.000 Like, strapped to the back of them.

02:58:21.000 They're, like, talking shit.

02:58:22.000 Yeah. You don't really see it anymore.

02:58:25.000 They got all friendly.

02:58:30.000 Ooh. That was a good combination.

02:58:33.000 Three-piece soda there.

02:58:34.000 Oh, it was a trip.

02:58:35.000 Yeah. Interesting.

02:58:36.000 Nice to say.

02:58:41.000 Here we go.

02:58:45.000 Here we go.

02:58:50.000 Round two.

02:58:51.000 Oh, he's going down.

02:58:52.000 Oh, immediately.

02:58:54.000 Wow, that was dope.

02:58:55.000 That was nice.

02:58:57.000 Good on Leon.

02:58:59.000 Could suck him back here.

02:59:01.000 You can suck him back and pull him between his knees.

02:59:04.000 This is a good sign that he can get this clinch early in the second like this.

02:59:08.000 That was a great takedown.

02:59:10.000 He drags him down.

02:59:19.000 Interesting. Nice job by Brady.

02:59:23.000 Nice. Nice.

02:59:25.000 Good transition.

02:59:29.000 Heavy top pressure.

02:59:33.000 Needs a tight waist.

02:59:34.000 Needs a strong tight waist.

02:59:36.000 Leon's in trouble.

02:59:37.000 He's got the back.

02:59:38.000 Yep. Got his whole fucking legs tatted, front and back.

02:59:43.000 Everything. Goddamn.

02:59:45.000 His whole asshole.

02:59:45.000 He should be attacking the neck with his right hand so he can put the second hook in.

02:59:49.000 He needs to control.

02:59:50.000 There you go.

02:59:57.000 There's a lot of time, too.

02:59:59.000 Yeah, a lot of time.

02:59:59.000 That's definitely a high discrepancy you can see on the...

03:00:02.000 That's more than two inches for sure.

03:00:05.000 Yeah, well, one of them could have no shoes on too, though.

03:00:07.000 Yeah, well, I mean 5'10 to 6'2 is 4 inches.

03:00:17.000 Got the back.

03:00:23.000 But even on the ground, we're below Leon Lenz.

03:00:27.000 He survives down there.

03:00:28.000 He's tough to put away.

03:00:29.000 He's landing some hard shots.

03:00:30.000 Well, Leon's doing a good job of stopping him from locking the body triangle.

03:00:35.000 Here he's got it.

03:00:35.000 He's got it, but now he's got the outside triangle.

03:00:37.000 Now this is going to be an issue.

03:00:39.000 Now he's in trouble.

03:00:40.000 Leon keeps trying to turn belly down.

03:00:42.000 Sean should just take him belly down and hit him.

03:00:44.000 Yeah. It's also such a brutal thing on your spine, belly down, with that body triangle.

03:00:49.000 It's exhausting.

03:00:52.000 Again, three minutes of this.

03:00:54.000 There you go.

03:00:54.000 Take him belly down and hit him.

03:00:55.000 Here we go.

03:00:59.000 He's gonna let him go.

03:01:02.000 Or come up to mount and hit him.

03:01:05.000 Yeah, Leon keeps trying to go belly down, which is kind of crazy.

03:01:10.000 Oh, these are hard shots, man.

03:01:11.000 Well, he can go for a rolling escape, but...

03:01:14.000 When you're a strong dude like that, you can land some powerful strikes from a short distance like this.

03:01:20.000 Like, these are not fun.

03:01:22.000 170's gonna be interesting, though, because Shafkot's out with injury.

03:01:25.000 Is he?

03:01:25.000 Yeah. What happened?

03:01:28.000 I forget exactly what it was, but he's not coming back soon soon.

03:01:32.000 Oh, you have Makachev, you have Bilal, and then Brady with a win over a fucking number one contender.

03:01:40.000 This is a big round right here.

03:01:42.000 If these guys could just figure out how to trap hands from the back, they'd be so much more effective.

03:01:46.000 Oh, look at this.

03:01:48.000 Look at this.

03:01:49.000 He's going to get up.

03:01:50.000 He's going to at least get up to Turtle.

03:01:53.000 Maybe not.

03:01:55.000 That was just Leon's.

03:01:56.000 Leon could have got up easy from there.

03:01:57.000 He should have kept going.

03:01:58.000 Yeah. Because Brady's left knee wasn't controlling Leon's right hip.

03:02:03.000 So there's nothing stopping him from going belly down from there.

03:02:08.000 He's going to try and isolate that arm?

03:02:09.000 He just gave up.

03:02:10.000 Yeah, he's going to look for a Kimura.

03:02:12.000 He's going to look for a Kimura.

03:02:14.000 He's going to look for that hand.

03:02:14.000 Here it goes, here it goes, here it goes.

03:02:17.000 And his legs are open.

03:02:21.000 You're allowed to grab your shorts.

03:02:23.000 Isn't that kind of crazy?

03:02:23.000 Yeah, I know.

03:02:24.000 Isn't that weird?

03:02:25.000 That's the only reason to have shorts.

03:02:28.000 Tights are so much better because they can't grab you.

03:02:31.000 Way better.

03:02:31.000 Leon should be inserting a butterfly hook here and looking to off-balance him out of that Kimura.

03:02:35.000 With his right foot?

03:02:36.000 With his right foot, yeah.

03:02:36.000 He's still got time.

03:02:37.000 He's still got time.

03:02:39.000 He has a minute left.

03:02:41.000 Brady should be using it to pass.

03:02:43.000 Yeah. Yep.

03:02:45.000 Like, play a dilemma between the Kimura and the pass.

03:02:48.000 That way you can do damage.

03:02:50.000 He wants to lock it up.

03:02:51.000 Here it is.

03:02:52.000 Oh, there it goes.

03:02:54.000 Does he have to pass here?

03:02:55.000 Oh. He lost it.

03:02:57.000 But now I gave him the underhook.

03:02:58.000 So now he should go back to a crossface.

03:03:00.000 There he goes.

03:03:01.000 But he gave up the underhook.

03:03:02.000 Now he's in mount.

03:03:04.000 Full back.

03:03:05.000 Now he should flatten him out.

03:03:07.000 Flatten him out and punch.

03:03:08.000 Yeah. Unless he gives you the neck.

03:03:10.000 This is big.

03:03:11.000 This is big.

03:03:12.000 Boy, he's eating his ass up.

03:03:14.000 He's chewing him up on the ground.

03:03:15.000 Yeah, he's fucking...

03:03:16.000 This is the thing, man.

03:03:17.000 People, they underestimate how fucking powerful this guy is on the ground and how good.

03:03:22.000 And he can do this for five rounds.

03:03:25.000 Yeah, Leon's in trouble.

03:03:27.000 Yeah, he is.

03:03:27.000 He's in trouble.

03:03:28.000 Well, it's actually worse now because now Leon's actually carrying his body weight.

03:03:32.000 Yep. The first half of the round, he wasn't carrying Sean's body weight.

03:03:37.000 Right. Now this is more exhausting than having your back taken.

03:03:41.000 And he's just getting brutalized the whole round.

03:03:43.000 The whole round, exhausted.

03:03:45.000 And he came into that round breathing heavy.

03:03:47.000 And now he's just gotten brutalized for the entire second round.

03:03:51.000 He's going to be a lot more tired going into the third.

03:03:53.000 Brady is a real contender.

03:03:55.000 Real contender, kids.

03:03:56.000 To do that to Leon Edwards is fucking huge.

03:03:59.000 Yeah, that loss to Bilal.

03:04:01.000 Everyone writes these guys off.

03:04:02.000 I'm like, nah, it's the best thing you can have with these guys.

03:04:04.000 Where's this guy?

03:04:06.000 Don't let him bully your rock.

03:04:07.000 The older guy.

03:04:08.000 Where is he?

03:04:09.000 Is he back there?

03:04:10.000 Or did he fire him?

03:04:11.000 No! Yeah.

03:04:14.000 No way.

03:04:15.000 Maybe that guy's busy.

03:04:16.000 Taught of him yelling at me.

03:04:17.000 Can you imagine?

03:04:21.000 No way.

03:04:21.000 Oh, there he is.

03:04:22.000 There he is.

03:04:23.000 There he is.

03:04:23.000 Yeah, he's the man.

03:04:24.000 Is that him?

03:04:25.000 No. I'd say I'm in it in the back right.

03:04:42.000 Not looking great for Leon.

03:04:43.000 But Leon's ass.

03:04:44.000 He'll pull it out, though.

03:04:46.000 He'll surprise you.

03:04:46.000 He's pulled things out before.

03:04:48.000 That's for damn sure.

03:04:49.000 The Kamaru Usman fight.

03:04:50.000 He just doesn't seem excited to be in there.

03:04:53.000 Well, he got mauled.

03:04:54.000 I mean, he got mauled that round.

03:04:55.000 Even before that.

03:04:56.000 Come on, buddy.

03:04:58.000 I don't think it's exciting.

03:05:00.000 I think he's fighting a fucking animal, man.

03:05:02.000 You underestimate this guy and say he's too little, and then you get in there with him, and you're like, oh, Jesus.

03:05:07.000 Yeah. He's a baby gorilla.

03:05:08.000 Nice kick to the body.

03:05:09.000 Throwing kicks and shit now.

03:05:10.000 Another nice kick to the body.

03:05:13.000 That's the thing about that southpaw orthodox stance.

03:05:16.000 It just opens up that power kick from the outside on both guys.

03:05:19.000 Oh, nice uppercut by Leon.

03:05:21.000 That was bad by Brady.

03:05:22.000 Bad entry.

03:05:23.000 Oh, another one.

03:05:24.000 Good shot.

03:05:25.000 He hurt him.

03:05:26.000 He hurt him with that one.

03:05:27.000 That was a big shot.

03:05:28.000 Clipped him.

03:05:29.000 There's the shot again.

03:05:31.000 Oh, stuff.

03:05:32.000 Nice. Nice by Leon.

03:05:34.000 That was a long-range shot, though.

03:05:35.000 Yeah, a little desperado there.

03:05:37.000 I think he got hurt.

03:05:38.000 He got clipped, right?

03:05:39.000 And I think you realize, like, hey, this is not a good spot for me to be in.

03:05:51.000 Excitement. Oh, look at Leon shoots.

03:05:54.000 That's crazy.

03:05:56.000 That doesn't make sense.

03:05:57.000 No. Horrible idea.

03:05:59.000 Yeah, look at this.

03:05:59.000 Go behind.

03:06:00.000 Drag him down.

03:06:01.000 Nice. He's got to block the elbow if he's going to go behind, though.

03:06:04.000 Yeah, this is the problem.

03:06:05.000 Go for a drag.

03:06:07.000 Level of grappling.

03:06:08.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh, guillotine.

03:06:12.000 Nope. He's just using it.

03:06:13.000 Yeah. They got him on top.

03:06:15.000 Back, same position.

03:06:16.000 Yeah, Leon, you were doing so well and you shot, dog?

03:06:19.000 Crazy. Terrible idea.

03:06:20.000 I mean, just trying to prove a point, I think.

03:06:24.000 If Brady pushes that knee down, he'll be in three-quarter mount.

03:06:29.000 Wow! Full mount.

03:06:31.000 Sweet. With three minutes to go.

03:06:33.000 Three and a half minutes.

03:06:34.000 This is terrible.

03:06:36.000 Awful. Especially after that second round where he just dominated him on the ground.

03:06:42.000 The level of grappling is just so significant.

03:06:45.000 There's such a difference.

03:06:48.000 And physical strength.

03:06:50.000 I mean, Sean is just such a fucking ape.

03:06:56.000 Oh! Oh, these are bad.

03:06:59.000 These are bad.

03:07:01.000 Oh. Those are huge shots.

03:07:06.000 This should break him to a hip.

03:07:08.000 Brady should be pulling him down to a hip.

03:07:10.000 To one hip, one side?

03:07:11.000 Yeah. Yeah.

03:07:13.000 It takes away the explosive ability to get up.

03:07:18.000 It's almost like he's daring him to try to get up.

03:07:20.000 Yeah. He's behind the elbows.

03:07:21.000 I mean, Khabib would do that.

03:07:22.000 Khabib would just let guys up and...

03:07:23.000 Yeah.

03:07:23.000 ...

03:07:24.000 carrying body weight the whole time.

03:07:25.000 Keep raking him.

03:07:26.000 We see how he's...

03:07:27.000 Birdie's doing a pretty good job of keeping his knees off the floor.

03:07:31.000 Keeping the weight on him.

03:07:32.000 Yeah. Yeah.

03:07:35.000 Exhausting for Leon.

03:07:36.000 Yeah. This is incredibly tiring.

03:07:38.000 Yeah. And no moments of success.

03:07:43.000 No. Like on the ground, no moments of success.

03:07:45.000 Zero. It's all being dominated.

03:07:47.000 There's no sunshine down there.

03:07:47.000 And slightly escaping to another bad position.

03:07:51.000 And he kind of put himself in there with that shitty shot.

03:07:54.000 Yeah, he totally put himself in here.

03:07:56.000 And he was landing shots on the feet.

03:07:57.000 I know.

03:07:58.000 He had them wobbled.

03:07:58.000 But hey, we're still only in the third.

03:08:00.000 True. He's just gotta avoid this at all costs.

03:08:04.000 Like, now you know.

03:08:05.000 No more fucking around with all this.

03:08:07.000 No, his team should be like, don't, dude.

03:08:09.000 Like, he's clearly down at least two rounds.

03:08:13.000 Holy shit.

03:08:14.000 Those numbers are bad.

03:08:16.000 Oh, yeah.

03:08:17.000 Like, maybe three rounds, right?

03:08:18.000 Like, what about the first?

03:08:20.000 Oh, he's down three rounds.

03:08:22.000 Yeah. Yeah, this one's not even close.

03:08:28.000 Sean's just so dominant on the ground.

03:08:30.000 You just want to see how Sean does against, like, Makachev or Shafkot, like another grappler who can strike and defend the takedowns.

03:08:38.000 That'd be his big test.

03:08:39.000 Put him two hooks in.

03:08:44.000 Oh. Oh.

03:08:46.000 Leon's getting beaten up, man.

03:08:48.000 I mean, he just can't escape.

03:08:50.000 Spread the knees out.

03:08:51.000 Flatten him out.

03:08:54.000 There he goes.

03:08:55.000 Flatten him out.

03:08:56.000 Oh, oh, oh.

03:08:58.000 Flatten him again.

03:08:59.000 Keep flutting him.

03:09:05.000 Goddamn, this is domination.

03:09:08.000 Yeah, it's not even a fight.

03:09:09.000 Leon keeps trying to stand up headfirst.

03:09:11.000 He should be trying to four-point out of here.

03:09:14.000 Leon's just getting fucking hammered.

03:09:16.000 How many clean shots has he landed?

03:09:18.000 My God.

03:09:23.000 I mean, it's just constant.

03:09:25.000 Bang, bang, bang.

03:09:26.000 The crowd's like, Goddamn it.

03:09:29.000 Oh, even from here.

03:09:31.000 he's generating some power from here Not a lot of time.

03:09:47.000 Let's go for a choke here.

03:09:48.000 Maybe he goes for an armbar.

03:09:49.000 Yeah, let's go for something.

03:09:52.000 I mean, he hears the claps.

03:09:55.000 Grab a hold of that fucking right arm.

03:09:57.000 Leon's just waiting it out.

03:09:59.000 Sean's doing it too.

03:10:00.000 Sean's taking some big deep breaths here.

03:10:02.000 He's tired from beating his ass.

03:10:04.000 He's exhausted from beating the shit out of him.

03:10:06.000 Domination by Sean.

03:10:07.000 I mean, Leon's got to probably stop him or get some 10-8 rounds.

03:10:11.000 That was a crazy bad shot.

03:10:12.000 Crazy shot.

03:10:13.000 And just not a good decision to make against this guy.

03:10:17.000 Early in the round.

03:10:18.000 And then he's eating just hammers.

03:10:20.000 Don't let him bully a rock.

03:10:28.000 I mean, if you're the corner, don't get taken down.

03:10:31.000 I don't know what the fuck to tell you, man.

03:10:35.000 Well, he's doing a good job stopping the takedowns in the clench.

03:10:38.000 Yes. But when he gets shot on...

03:10:42.000 Then ran to the cage.

03:10:44.000 Yeah. Dean Thomas in the fucking house.

03:10:46.000 Love Dean Thomas.

03:10:47.000 He's awesome Okay.

03:10:54.000 We just have a good, good shot.

03:10:54.000 If Leon didn't pull off that last second KO against Kamaru, you would never think he has a fucking shot.

03:11:00.000 But because he's done that, we're all like, you never know, dude.

03:11:03.000 You never know.

03:11:04.000 It starts standing, and he landed shots in the second and the third.

03:11:07.000 He's just got to not let him take him down.

03:11:09.000 He looks good, though.

03:11:10.000 He doesn't look exhausted.

03:11:11.000 Yeah, no.

03:11:12.000 But even Kamaru didn't beat him up like this.

03:11:15.000 No. Nor did Bilal.

03:11:16.000 No. I think Sean's on another level now.

03:11:19.000 You know?

03:11:20.000 Yeah, that loss.

03:11:21.000 He really...

03:11:21.000 Like, he really talked heavily with me about his mental coaching and how much of an effect it had on...

03:11:25.000 Oh, did you have him in here?

03:11:26.000 Mm-hmm.

03:11:27.000 Yeah. I forget his coach.

03:11:29.000 Do you remember his coach?

03:11:31.000 His mental coach?

03:11:31.000 Yeah. Jamie, can you find it?

03:11:34.000 Because that guy's very good.

03:11:35.000 I've watched some of his stuff online.

03:11:37.000 What's the guy's background?

03:11:38.000 Do you know?

03:11:39.000 I do not...

03:11:40.000 Oh, good elbow by Sean.

03:11:41.000 Oh, Sean's teeing him up on the feet now.

03:11:43.000 That's trouble.

03:11:44.000 Oh, my goodness.

03:11:45.000 Sean just can't get...

03:11:46.000 Oh, there you go.

03:11:46.000 There's a shot.

03:11:47.000 Good shot.

03:11:48.000 What kind of mental coaching did he do?

03:11:50.000 Well, you know, I'd have to have him explain it.

03:11:53.000 I don't want to butcher it, but it was all about strategies to keep him focused and on track.

03:11:58.000 Brian Cain as his mental coach.

03:12:02.000 Brian Cain, peak performance.

03:12:07.000 Affirmation training, developing custom affirmations to enforce positive talk, build confidence, mind control techniques.

03:12:15.000 I mean, sometimes fighters just need a framework.

03:12:17.000 That they keep with them in a fight, so if something goes sideways, they can get back on track.

03:12:22.000 Yeah, something to get you back to home base.

03:12:24.000 Yeah, because sometimes fighters just lose their train of thought, they lose their focus, they get into a downward spiral in their head, and then they find themselves not...

03:12:34.000 He's going for the guillotine.

03:12:35.000 Look at this, look at this.

03:12:36.000 One hand, one arm guillotine.

03:12:39.000 Oh my goodness.

03:12:42.000 Oh my goodness.

03:12:44.000 He'll need to mount him, which he has.

03:12:45.000 Oh, my goodness.

03:12:46.000 Oh, he's about to tap.

03:12:49.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh, he's got the hands now.

03:12:53.000 Oh, now he's fucked.

03:12:54.000 He tapped!

03:12:55.000 He tapped!

03:12:55.000 Wow! Sean fucking Brady.

03:13:00.000 Woo! Holy shit, what a performance.

03:13:04.000 Dude, shutout.

03:13:06.000 What a performance.

03:13:07.000 Shutout against one of the best of all time in the division.

03:13:12.000 Former champion, beats his ass, and submits him.

03:13:16.000 I wonder what he's asking Dana for here.

03:13:18.000 Wow. That was impressive.

03:13:21.000 But it makes sense Brady would hire a mental coach of that, because remember, he's undefeated, never lost, and when you get your ass handed to you, you're like, oh fuck, I'm not the end-all be-all.

03:13:29.000 When is Bilal fighting Jack?

03:13:34.000 Is that two months?

03:13:35.000 Is that two months?

03:13:36.000 Yeah. Where's that at?

03:13:39.000 I don't know.

03:13:40.000 See if Jamie can find it.

03:13:42.000 Fucking unbelievable, man.

03:13:44.000 I'm super impressed.

03:13:45.000 Montreal, UFC 315, May 10th.

03:13:48.000 Wow. I won't do that.

03:13:50.000 I don't go to Canada anymore.

03:13:52.000 I don't.

03:13:53.000 No, nor should you.

03:13:54.000 Uh-uh.

03:13:55.000 No, discipline them.

03:13:56.000 Yeah, I'd rather go to Russia.

03:13:57.000 Yeah, fuck yeah.

03:13:58.000 Hell yeah.

03:14:00.000 When they become the U.S., you never know.

03:14:02.000 That's never going to happen.

03:14:04.000 That's so crazy to ask them to be the 51st date.

03:14:08.000 I had a conversation with Trump about it.

03:14:09.000 He goes, I started calling him Governor Trudeau just for fun, and a lot of people were saying it's a good idea.

03:14:13.000 I'm like, maybe it is a good idea.

03:14:15.000 A lot of people say it.

03:14:16.000 Look at this fucking squeeze, man.

03:14:19.000 Did you ever work with a mental coach, Gordon?

03:14:21.000 No. You seem pretty mentally fucking strong.

03:14:23.000 No. I believe that confidence is built in the gym.

03:14:27.000 Through training, yeah.

03:14:28.000 If you hit an armbar 10 times out of 10 times in training, you're pretty confident that it's going to work.

03:14:34.000 But if you don't hit it in training, why would you be confident?

03:14:38.000 Moments in your past where you had a lapse of concentration and then you realized never do that again?

03:14:46.000 Yes. I'm pretty good at analyzing mistakes and then fixing them.

03:14:52.000 Coming up, I would be super hot and cold.

03:14:55.000 I would beat a lot of guys and then I'd have one disastrous match at Purple Belt or something or Brown Belt.

03:15:03.000 Everyone was always like, you're Tom or friends.

03:15:07.000 Beat everyone up in the gym.

03:15:09.000 You can't translate it to the mat.

03:15:12.000 I was like, I don't know, man.

03:15:15.000 I feel like eventually I'm going to get good and then I'll be good everywhere and no one will be able to beat me in any position.

03:15:23.000 And then kind of just going through the reps in the gym and got to a point where I was beating everyone from every position.

03:15:29.000 So just you accelerated your skill set so far beyond that you just were so confident that you didn't need to...

03:15:37.000 Yeah, but there definitely is the it factor that you can't really put your finger on.

03:15:43.000 Most guys, even at the highest levels, if you give them the reason to quit, they'll quit.

03:15:49.000 You can be as technically sound as you want.

03:15:53.000 Even guys who are super good technically, and you see a lot of jiu-jitsu who are super good technically, if they just get pushed hard and they don't have success early on, they either crush a guy in the first five minutes or...

03:16:05.000 Or they lose the match.

03:16:06.000 Well, that's why you like those no-time-limit fights, right?

03:16:09.000 Like the Felipe fight?

03:16:10.000 Yeah. I think I'm a lot stronger mentally than everyone I compete against, but also it's a big physical factor because of the fact that when you have like a 30-minute match, for example, the most important thing is the work rate.

03:16:23.000 So it doesn't matter how good your cardio is, like how high your VO2 max is, if you're working twice as hard as I am...

03:16:30.000 You're going to get tired faster than I am.

03:16:32.000 Because I'm so much more technical, because the gap in skill is so big between me and the next best guy, their work rate is always three, four, five times as high as mine.

03:16:42.000 They have to explode, they have to move quickly.

03:16:43.000 So it doesn't matter how good your cardio is.

03:16:45.000 If I ran a mile, it wouldn't be impressive.

03:16:47.000 But because I'm so much more efficient, the work rate is so much higher for my opponents that they just fatigue a lot faster.

03:16:54.000 Gangster. Crazy.

03:16:55.000 Yeah, crazy.

03:16:56.000 And it's crazy, too, that you lay out the blueprint of what to do.

03:17:01.000 Train 365 days a year, constantly study, constantly go over positions, constantly drill things, constantly improve upon techniques, and then you put the techniques out.

03:17:11.000 And you put them out in instructionals, and people still can't fuck with it.

03:17:14.000 Well, that's what everyone always talks about.

03:17:15.000 Everybody always talks about hard work.

03:17:17.000 But the hardest work is mental work.

03:17:19.000 Like, there's a reason why guys on Wall Street make more money than guys who dig ditches.

03:17:22.000 Because they work harder.

03:17:24.000 Like, it's...

03:17:25.000 It's not just physical.

03:17:26.000 Everyone has no problem coming in, getting a sweat, going home, being sore, stuff like that.

03:17:32.000 But if you ask them to sit down and watch an hour's worth of instruction every night from a Gordon Ryan instructional, which is proven to work in competition, nobody wants to do that.

03:17:43.000 They can't do it.

03:17:44.000 Isn't that interesting?

03:17:45.000 You can give them the tools, but they won't build the house.

03:17:49.000 I have like 40 instructionals.

03:17:53.000 Hundreds of hours worth of instructionals that I do, and I've referenced matches that I hit this exact technique in, in competition at world level, and just no one's picked up on it.

03:18:03.000 No one?

03:18:03.000 No one at all?

03:18:04.000 They kind of just, like, grab stuff, like they see me do, like, a move, and they kind of just, like, get the basics of it, but no one's really, like, in-depth studied it and, like, been able to perform the moves in competition.

03:18:15.000 It's, like, embarrassing for the sport.

03:18:17.000 That's so crazy.

03:18:18.000 It's so interesting that the thing that you would need is just a work ethic.

03:18:23.000 Like, everyone's just like, oh, it's just like a big juice head.

03:18:25.000 And I'm just like, okay, guys.

03:18:27.000 This makes my job easier.

03:18:28.000 I'm glad that we all are agreeing on this.

03:18:30.000 Because it just makes my job so much easier.

03:18:33.000 But the stuff he's talking about also isn't exciting, you know?

03:18:36.000 Right. You gotta be super disciplined.

03:18:38.000 Yeah. That's the thing.

03:18:40.000 But, like, what wins wars is technology and information.

03:18:46.000 Usually a country with more technology, more access to technology and information is going to be able to win a war.

03:18:52.000 It's the same thing for fighting.

03:18:53.000 If you know more, most of the time you're going to be able to win more.

03:18:57.000 I'm beating these guys because I know more than they do.

03:19:00.000 Everybody's tough.

03:19:01.000 Everybody's strong.

03:19:05.000 Even the best guys in the world are super inconsistent.

03:19:10.000 They'll win two, they'll lose one, they'll win four, they'll lose two.

03:19:15.000 But when you know more than everyone in every given position, it's pretty easy.

03:19:20.000 What's going on?

03:19:20.000 You were telling me your stomach's getting better now?

03:19:23.000 I can eat a little bit more.

03:19:25.000 I'm eating better meals, but training hard is still tough.

03:19:29.000 Whenever my heart rate gets super high, I start to get like...

03:19:32.000 Tired from a hard session, I still get super nauseous.

03:19:35.000 I can't believe no one has found a solution to that.

03:19:38.000 That's wild.

03:19:39.000 Have you run your blood work through chat GPT?

03:19:41.000 Have you done any of that?

03:19:42.000 The chat GPT thing, I've got to do that.

03:19:46.000 You talked to me about that the other day.

03:19:48.000 But doctors know more about space.

03:19:50.000 We know more about space than we do the stomach.

03:19:53.000 And my issues in the small intestine...

03:19:55.000 Which is like the hardest one to treat because like they can look at your stomach with an endoscopy and they can look at your large intestine with a colonoscopy.

03:20:02.000 But to like figure out what the fuck's going on in your small intestine is like a completely...

03:20:06.000 Like they just can't...

03:20:07.000 They can't scope it until it's hard.

03:20:09.000 It's crazy that it all comes from antibiotics.

03:20:12.000 Oh yeah.

03:20:14.000 Antibiotics fucked my life up way more than...

03:20:18.000 Anything else I've ever done to myself.

03:20:20.000 That's so crazy.

03:20:21.000 By far, yeah.

03:20:22.000 But you're not supposed to do them the way you did them, right?

03:20:24.000 You're not supposed to take antibiotics for a year.

03:20:26.000 Well, so, it was like, so if you get staph and you don't treat it, it just spreads and you die.

03:20:32.000 Yeah. So it was like, I got caught in this cycle where it was like, I got staph, I took antibiotics, and then I'd be good for two days, got staph, took antibiotics, got staph, took antibiotics, got staph.

03:20:43.000 So it was just like, I'd have like three days of training, and then I would just get staph again.

03:20:48.000 Once my stomach started to get affected and my immune system wasn't as strong, my body was trying to fix my stomach, and then I would get staph because my immune system wasn't as strong.

03:21:00.000 So then I'd take antibiotics, and then that would destroy my stomach, make my immune system weaker, and then I'd get staph again.

03:21:06.000 So I just got caught in this cycle, and I'm sitting there like, I'm not a pussy.

03:21:09.000 I'm not going to stop training.

03:21:10.000 So it was just me training the whole time, regardless of what was going on.

03:21:14.000 Like, I would not train when I had the staph, but I wasn't going to, like, Take time off and, like, try to deal with my stomach.

03:21:20.000 I was just like, fucking gotta keep eating next month.

03:21:23.000 Goddamn. Mental toughness can sometimes fuck you up.

03:21:26.000 Yeah. Have you ever thought about trying, like, a long fast?

03:21:31.000 Um, I mean, I've been forced into, like, two-week fasts.

03:21:34.000 Like, two weeks?

03:21:36.000 Yeah, like, yeah, like, pretty much, like, not eating hardly anything.

03:21:40.000 I was actually, before I fought Roberto Gymnast, that one time I called the armbar.

03:21:43.000 I was in the hospital, like, two days before that, getting IVs, because I just hadn't eaten in, like, a week and a half, two weeks.

03:21:49.000 Whoa. Just, like, couldn't eat anything.

03:21:51.000 That's crazy.

03:21:53.000 So, obviously, then, that's not going to cure it.

03:21:57.000 No. And the problem is, is, like, everything is trial and error.

03:22:01.000 So it's like, oh, try this for eight weeks.

03:22:03.000 Fucking eight weeks is a long time.

03:22:05.000 And you can try it.

03:22:06.000 And you can't, like, do everything at one time, because then you don't know, like you said.

03:22:11.000 I just threw everything at it.

03:22:12.000 I don't know what's actually making me feel good.

03:22:14.000 You have to add one thing and take away one thing at a time.

03:22:17.000 What about your diet?

03:22:19.000 Has anything helped in that regard?

03:22:21.000 I couldn't even eat red meat for a long time.

03:22:24.000 Everyone was suggesting carnivore, but my stomach just wouldn't digest it.

03:22:28.000 Fast food screws me up.

03:22:32.000 Steaks sometimes still mess me up.

03:22:34.000 Spicy food I can't do.

03:22:35.000 Light chicken and rice, eggs.

03:22:38.000 So very bland.

03:22:39.000 Crazy. What a fucking disaster.

03:22:41.000 Crazy that you're still able to operate at such a high level with such a giant fucking problem that would really end most people's careers.

03:22:48.000 It is what it is.

03:22:50.000 Everybody's got their issues.

03:22:51.000 I know, but I just can't imagine that with all the resources of the world that someone hasn't reached out to that solution.

03:22:57.000 It's a tummy ache, man.

03:23:00.000 You know, I mean, isn't it kind of crazy that you think that no one, there's not one guy out there in Australia or some shit?

03:23:05.000 Let's figure it out.

03:23:06.000 Let's figure it out.

03:23:07.000 It's that same issue?

03:23:08.000 Yeah. Well, I mean, the first time I came on this show, a ton of people reached out.

03:23:13.000 I finally found that guy who, like, first of all, when you go to a normal GI doctor, like, the guy in California did tests that none of the other GI doctors even know exist.

03:23:25.000 And I'm like, I don't know how that's possible.

03:23:26.000 Like, if you ask me a question in jiu-jitsu, it's like...

03:23:28.000 X, Y, Z. Whereas, like, you go to one doctor, and there's no idea what the other tests were that I got ran on me by another doctor, which is just so insane.

03:23:37.000 So this one guy actually ran tests, and he was like, oh, all these things are wrong with you, and now it's a question of how can we treat them.

03:23:43.000 But, like, most of the doctors I went to, like all the best doctors in the U.S., just did, like, an endoscopy, like some basic blood work, and they're like, oh, you're fine.

03:23:50.000 I'm like, I'm definitely not fine.

03:23:52.000 So this other doctor that said, this is what's wrong with you, what was his solution?

03:23:58.000 Well, it's just a bunch of things.

03:24:00.000 I mean, I could sit here and list for five minutes of things that are wrong with me, but it was like we're going to do a lot of holistic stuff, like over-the-counter stuff, like binders to deal with mold poisoning, toxic issues, and then a lot of...

03:24:20.000 Like probiotics, prescription antifungals, like just a combination of stuff.

03:24:24.000 Like glute shields, like you just drink it and it coats the lining of your esophagus in your stomach.

03:24:29.000 Because my big issue is with the small intestine where the food and bile back up into the stomach and it just sits there because the small intestines are so infected.

03:24:39.000 And that's what makes you nauseous?

03:24:41.000 Yeah, so it's like you eat food, you get full fast, and the food just sits in your stomach and just like...

03:24:46.000 Rots in your stomach.

03:24:47.000 It doesn't filter down.

03:24:48.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

03:24:50.000 Damn. It's great.

03:24:51.000 Fun times.

03:24:52.000 It's basically like being seasick 24-7.

03:24:56.000 And what is your thoughts on competing again?

03:24:59.000 Well, right now we're just trying to open up this school.

03:25:00.000 So I've been trying to open up this damn school for like two years up in North Austin.

03:25:05.000 So once I get...

03:25:06.000 We're like right at the tail end of getting that open.

03:25:08.000 So once we get that open and up and running, then I'll jump back in if I'm healthy.

03:25:14.000 And there's nothing you can do differently than what you're doing now.

03:25:17.000 I mean, I do follow-ups with the guy.

03:25:19.000 So, for example, it keeps evolving.

03:25:21.000 So, like, they got that fungal issue they think under control.

03:25:27.000 But because the fungal issue in the small intestines now is resolved, or mostly resolved, they think, the lining of the intestines is so inflamed, like a scar, basically, that you have mast cells underneath your...

03:25:42.000 Underneath your intestinal wall.

03:25:45.000 So they're like garbage bags.

03:25:47.000 So when food or stomach acid leaks through the intestinal wall and hits the mast cells, they shoot histamines back up to try to prevent it from leaking into your bloodstream.

03:25:57.000 So every time I eat food, I just get this adrenaline, adrenal response, because they just shoot histamines back up from under my intestinal walls back into my intestines, and it just sends my body into a state of shock.

03:26:14.000 So when it was really bad, every time I eat a meal, my heart rate would go up to 150.

03:26:19.000 sit there for like 30 minutes and then like your heart rate goes up and your digestive system just stops so it was like it would just send my body into like a full panic attack every time i ate a And I'm like, oh, this is sick.

03:26:33.000 And now it's gotten a little bit better because it's starting to heal a little bit, but it's still not 100%.

03:26:37.000 So it's like one problem just evolved into another problem.

03:26:40.000 And then because the leaky gut was so bad, my kidneys were shutting down because I couldn't filter out all the...

03:26:47.000 That's when I took a leave of absence or retired, whatever you want to call it, after I fought Wagner the one time when we first met.

03:26:54.000 My leaky gut was so bad, my kidneys started to shut down.

03:26:57.000 Jesus. And then...

03:26:59.000 Like, my blood pressure is high.

03:27:01.000 Have they ever tried oral BPC-157?

03:27:03.000 I've been on that for like three years, yeah.

03:27:05.000 Yeah? Is that in any effect?

03:27:07.000 A combination of, like, it definitely helps.

03:27:09.000 You've got to try the shop method.

03:27:11.000 Whatever they tell you, the doses.

03:27:12.000 Just toss the sink at it.

03:27:13.000 Just do, yeah.

03:27:14.000 A whole bottle.

03:27:15.000 Three times as much.

03:27:17.000 Let's see what happens with a whole bottle.

03:27:18.000 I'm just hoping Elon makes his cyborgs.

03:27:20.000 Yeah. Give me a new stomach.

03:27:21.000 I'll be ready to go.

03:27:22.000 My flight's at 7.30, Joe.

03:27:24.000 All right, Doc.

03:27:24.000 Let's wrap this up.

03:27:25.000 All right.

03:27:26.000 Thank you, everybody.

03:27:27.000 Love you guys.

03:27:27.000 Fun times.

03:27:28.000 See you guys.

03:27:28.000 Love you, too.

03:27:28.000 See you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 22, 2025

JRE Fight Companion - March 22, 2025

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