The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE Fight Companion - September 6, 2025

00:00:06.000 I've never seen this guy.

00:00:07.000 Yeah, he's always doing he does a lot of the UK ones.

00:00:12.000 France is the best crowd, though.

00:00:15.000 Great crowd.

00:00:16.000 Are they?

00:00:17.000 Yeah.

00:00:17.000 Crowdy as fuck.

00:00:18.000 Really?

00:00:19.000 Rowdy.

00:00:21.000 UFC.

00:00:24.000 We're good?

00:00:26.000 We're live, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:28.000 Here we are.

00:00:28.000 Hey, Gordon Ryan in the fucking house.

00:00:31.000 Brian Cowan, Brennan Schaub.

00:00:33.000 Let's go.

00:00:34.000 Fight companion.

00:00:35.000 Um, Jamie, send me the link so I could.

00:00:37.000 Did you send it to me?

00:00:39.000 All right.

00:00:39.000 Uh we'll tweet it out to let all the folks at home.

00:00:43.000 Look at Paul Felder.

00:00:45.000 Looking like a guy from the 40s.

00:00:47.000 Do you know what he majored in in college?

00:00:49.000 Dance.

00:00:50.000 That's right.

00:00:50.000 Theater.

00:00:51.000 Theater.

00:00:51.000 That's amazing.

00:00:52.000 Yeah, I know.

00:00:52.000 It is funny.

00:00:53.000 It's so funny.

00:00:55.000 It is funny.

00:00:56.000 He was at the comedy store one night and I was like, Can you phone me that link to you?

00:00:59.000 Yeah.

00:00:59.000 He was at the show, and then he was like, uh I was like, Do you watch a lot of stuff?

00:01:03.000 He goes, Well, I majored in theater.

00:01:06.000 Bisping did not major in theater, and he's booking a ton of roles.

00:01:10.000 Uh he did the commercial I wrote.

00:01:11.000 Yeah, but I'm talking real roles.

00:01:13.000 Oh, yeah.

00:01:13.000 Yeah, your commercial is for UFC guys.

00:01:15.000 He's booking like movies.

00:01:16.000 Is he really?

00:01:17.000 Yeah, like legit movies.

00:01:18.000 He's crushing it.

00:01:19.000 You want to talk about a guy who has had to struggle.

00:01:23.000 His fucking neck was so bad, dude.

00:01:25.000 He could barely get out of bed to do podcasts and do his commentary work, and then he's in bed most of the day after that.

00:01:31.000 And he has one eye.

00:01:32.000 His one eye.

00:01:33.000 Yeah.

00:01:33.000 He's had his neck fused like three different times.

00:01:36.000 I was on the plant with him when he was in a he was he was in this right after his surgery with that, you know, brace, and he was miserable.

00:01:43.000 I go, how are you doing?

00:01:44.000 He goes, bro.

00:01:47.000 He's he's been miserable for years.

00:01:49.000 Like in intense pain for years.

00:01:51.000 But he's better now, right?

00:01:52.000 Yeah, he's he's slightly better.

00:01:53.000 We got him some we hooked him up at waist away.

00:01:56.000 He uh he got some he got two knee replacements, so he's got two fake knees.

00:02:01.000 He's got uh his neck is all fucked up. 0.94

00:02:03.000 Offer him a fight tomorrow.

00:02:04.000 He's like, I'll take it.

00:02:06.000 Wow.

00:02:07.000 How about his last fight ever?

00:02:08.000 They're like, hey man, are you down to fight Gaslam in China on eight-day notice?

00:02:13.000 Yeah, right after you just saw George GSP and got dropped with a left hook.

00:02:17.000 He's been fighting since he was 14, man.

00:02:19.000 14.

00:02:20.000 Like you can see video of him here, man.

00:02:21.000 Oh, he's the face of European MMA.

00:02:24.000 He's a Mount Rushmore.

00:02:25.000 If they had one over there.

00:02:26.000 Bro, he was a beast.

00:02:27.000 He was a beast in his day and fought undersized, you know, for a lot of his career at light heavyweight.

00:02:32.000 Yep.

00:02:34.000 Mm-hmm.

00:02:36.000 Just the fact the guy won the world title with one eyeball.

00:02:39.000 I mean, you imagine you got a wife and a family and a future, you're in your 30s, you're like, well, I still have one eye.

00:02:46.000 But here's my thing.

00:02:47.000 How does so crazy?

00:02:49.000 That's so gay. 1.00

00:02:50.000 We're an eyepatch.

00:02:51.000 Is he such a gangster?

00:02:52.000 It looks funny like that.

00:02:53.000 You have your retina detached.

00:02:55.000 And like you can go blind in the and the one eye you do have.

00:02:58.000 And he got his retina detached in that eye too.

00:03:00.000 So it's like what's crazy is one, and that's doing it.

00:03:03.000 You're doing a sport where you can definitely lose.

00:03:04.000 Yeah, no doubt.

00:03:05.000 What's crazy though too is the commission was like, ah, he's good.

00:03:08.000 Well, you know what he did?

00:03:09.000 He memorized the fucking scale.

00:03:11.000 The eyeball thing where we read like read about the charts.

00:03:14.000 That's that's it.

00:03:15.000 That's a junkie for fighting.

00:03:17.000 That's crazy.

00:03:18.000 How many guys are looking for a way out all the time?

00:03:21.000 You know?

00:03:22.000 And this fucking guy.

00:03:23.000 Yeah.

00:03:24.000 Fights 10, 11 fights in the UFC with one eyeball.

00:03:28.000 He's a legend.

00:03:28.000 Legend.

00:03:29.000 Unbelievable.

00:03:30.000 Just face of it.

00:03:31.000 This is gonna be an interesting fight.

00:03:33.000 Benoit Saint-Denis and Mauricio Ruffy.

00:03:36.000 Yeah.

00:03:36.000 Roofy's fucking crazy at 155.

00:03:40.000 He's like a Brazilian Connor. 0.92

00:03:41.000 But he's huge.

00:03:43.000 Huge.

00:03:43.000 I don't know.

00:03:43.000 It doesn't make any sense that he is 155.

00:03:47.000 He's like 6'2.

00:03:48.000 He's strong.

00:03:49.000 6'2.

00:03:50.000 He's huge.

00:03:50.000 He's on 100 feet.

00:03:52.000 He's undefeated in the UFC.

00:03:53.000 Bro, he wheel kicked Bobby Green into another dimension.

00:03:57.000 He's super talented.

00:03:58.000 Cardio's the only question.

00:03:59.000 Hasn't fucked competition.

00:04:01.000 Is he only 5'11?

00:04:04.000 I don't believe that.

00:04:04.000 Google B bullshit.

00:04:05.000 I think he's tall.

00:04:06.000 Come on, Jamie.

00:04:07.000 Come on.

00:04:07.000 It's 5'11, 156.

00:04:09.000 And my fantasy is 6'2.

00:04:10.000 I believe he's taller than that.

00:04:12.000 Tough I've seen him standing next to like Trickus Duplice C and all these other guys.

00:04:16.000 He's like, he's fucking tall as shit, man.

00:04:19.000 Tough fight for your boy BSD in his hometown.

00:04:21.000 Yes.

00:04:22.000 BSD, he takes some chances, man.

00:04:24.000 He does, but the the thing is, like striking in striking Roofy has A giant advantage.

00:04:31.000 And Roofy's not a slouch on the ground, and Benoit Saint-Denis, really good at judo.

00:04:36.000 Yeah, some of these guys who fight at 55 when you see them.

00:04:39.000 Like the fact that Michael Chase was able to make 55 at one point in his career is so ridiculous.

00:04:43.000 He walks around at 6'2, 200 pounds.

00:04:46.000 They tore their fucking kidneys apart, man.

00:04:49.000 Just breaking fucking huge.

00:04:51.000 Yeah, you're drying your organs out like an old sponge and the biggest thing.

00:04:54.000 Like you're Rodriguez at 45?

00:04:56.000 That's ridiculous.

00:04:57.000 Would you say Kabib was the biggest 55er?

00:05:00.000 No.

00:05:00.000 Gleason.

00:05:02.000 And I think that's the one guy that should have beat him.

00:05:04.000 If you look at the record, you know, you look at like Kabib's got an undefeated record.

00:05:08.000 There's an asterisk.

00:05:09.000 And that asterisk is Gleason.

00:05:11.000 Glayson T Bell.

00:05:12.000 That was a very fucking close fight that I thought Kabib lost.

00:05:15.000 But it was early in Khabib's career.

00:05:17.000 You know, it was before he won the title.

00:05:19.000 But to your point, Kabib 55, biggest at like the championship level.

00:05:23.000 Yeah, I think.

00:05:24.000 Cabal was never like world class.

00:05:27.000 No, he well, he was world class, but he was never.

00:05:29.000 Well, I'm talking like world class in the 55 division, like top five.

00:05:34.000 He was never like tip of the spear.

00:05:35.000 Well, if you think that he almost won or could have won, he definitely could have gotten that decision over Kabib.

00:05:42.000 He's right up close.

00:05:43.000 Yeah.

00:05:43.000 But he's a he's you know early.

00:05:44.000 Early in Kabib's career, to your point.

00:05:46.000 They were 55 is way bigger than Kabib. 0.99

00:05:48.000 After a while, guys, their body just can't do it anymore.

00:05:51.000 Yeah.

00:05:51.000 It's like, you know, how many fights can you have where you can still fight at at your potential.

00:05:55.000 Look at the size of T-bow.

00:05:57.000 That's so yo.

00:05:59.000 I saw him.

00:06:00.000 He was well over 200 pounds.

00:06:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:01.000 I saw him at top team, and I couldn't believe how thick he was.

00:06:04.000 Bro, he's so thick.

00:06:05.000 It made no sense.

00:06:06.000 He had a perfect physique.

00:06:07.000 Well, the craziest thing to me is Pereira making 85.

00:06:09.000 Oh, that's the nutty.

00:06:11.000 That's the nutty.

00:06:12.000 Hands down.

00:06:12.000 I met him.

00:06:12.000 I was like a jack 235 once, and I went, he was like way bigger than me.

00:06:16.000 How the fuck does this guy make 185?

00:06:17.000 And handship.

00:06:19.000 Let me take that.

00:06:21.000 Like every every part of him is bigger than me.

00:06:22.000 Like, how's this guy make one 8055?

00:06:23.000 The craziest one was Rob Johnson.

00:06:25.000 Yep, yep, yep.

00:06:26.000 Rumbo was crazy.

00:06:26.000 Rumble was the case.

00:06:28.000 I was doing warrior with him.

00:06:30.000 He was 235.

00:06:32.000 And 170.

00:06:33.000 Dude, he fought it 170.

00:06:35.000 He was too when I say 235. 0.99

00:06:36.000 Like, I remember I started saying to Sam Sherton, I go, I feel bad about myself.

00:06:40.000 He goes, Why?

00:06:40.000 Because I'm looking at fucking uh I didn't grow.

00:06:42.000 Like I don't look at him.

00:06:44.000 Like I want to look like that.

00:06:46.000 I just want to look like him.

00:06:47.000 And he sucked down 70.

00:06:48.000 It was the craziest shit ever.

00:06:49.000 Well, Rumble, look at the size of him in the lower right hand corner.

00:06:52.000 He got juicy.

00:06:52.000 There's a while there when he just met him when he was fighting at 170.

00:06:55.000 I was like 12 years old.

00:06:56.000 What did he dive?

00:06:57.000 Did he get sepsis or something?

00:06:58.000 Liver, something with his liver.

00:07:00.000 God damn, man.

00:07:01.000 It might have been liver.

00:07:03.000 It might have been some kind of a liver cancer or something.

00:07:06.000 He was so talented too.

00:07:07.000 He came into our gym in like his prime, and the coach was like, Are you right or left hand?

00:07:10.000 He's like, whatever you want to do.

00:07:12.000 He's like, well, left or right, man.

00:07:14.000 He's like, literally, whatever you want to do.

00:07:18.000 And he was like 230 pounds.

00:07:19.000 We're all oh shit.

00:07:20.000 Oh, okay.

00:07:21.000 Organ failure due to complications from non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, a rare immune disorder.

00:07:27.000 And he had it for a long time.

00:07:28.000 He knew he had it.

00:07:29.000 That's horrible.

00:07:30.000 Remember when he said when he I have to retire, I have I'm retiring for other things.

00:07:34.000 Yeah.

00:07:35.000 So terrible.

00:07:36.000 And then he died like shortly after that.

00:07:38.000 That's crazy.

00:07:39.000 Happened to my friend.

00:07:40.000 Just died.

00:07:40.000 Had we didn't know, but he had bone marrow cancer.

00:07:44.000 We didn't know.

00:07:44.000 And then he went to that restaurant, didn't he?

00:07:47.000 Via Veneto.

00:07:47.000 Yeah.

00:07:48.000 My boy Fabrizio, one of my favorite people.

00:07:49.000 And he he just uh he stopped answering texts, and I was like, you know, what's going on?

00:07:54.000 He and he goes, No, I'm good, brother.

00:07:56.000 I'm just I'm just taking a break from everybody, not you, but just like you know, taking a break and relaxing.

00:08:00.000 And I was like, this doesn't make sense.

00:08:01.000 Turns out he was in LA, and then I think he he got septic and or something like that.

00:08:06.000 His family keeps it close to the vest, but that was a good buddy of mine.

00:08:09.000 But just crazy that I get a call and says, Hey, he he passed last time.

00:08:13.000 But this is Brian in a nutshell.

00:08:15.000 We do the show Monday.

00:08:16.000 I'm like, hey Benny's like, man, kid.

00:08:18.000 Oh yeah.

00:08:19.000 My friend died.

00:08:20.000 Jesus Christ.

00:08:21.000 Well, I don't know how to I don't know how to deal with it.

00:08:22.000 I'm not good with emotion.

00:08:23.000 Yeah.

00:08:24.000 Well it's hard when someone dies because it doesn't feel real.

00:08:27.000 It doesn't feel real.

00:08:28.000 Especially if you don't see them dead.

00:08:30.000 Right.

00:08:30.000 It's like, what?

00:08:31.000 You're not there anymore.

00:08:32.000 I call you, you don't answer?

00:08:33.000 My buddy called me.

00:08:34.000 My buddy calls me and he goes, hey man, uh hey, just look like this.

00:08:38.000 He goes, hey man, uh, we lost Fabrizio last night.

00:08:41.000 I go, what?

00:08:42.000 Where is he?

00:08:42.000 What are you talking about?

00:08:43.000 He goes, he passed.

00:08:44.000 I go, what?

00:08:46.000 Because you had no clue.

00:08:47.000 I had no doubt, I had no idea.

00:08:48.000 He was such a good best.

00:08:51.000 They fucking release like the ZR1 X specs or ZR1 around like Nurembugger. 0.76

00:08:55.000 Oh man, let me send this to my dad.

00:08:56.000 And like always been fucking dead for five years.

00:09:01.000 You took it to another level.

00:09:02.000 I'm sorry.

00:09:02.000 Oh my gosh.

00:09:04.000 Bro, that's the Trump card.

00:09:09.000 My head, my head just goes down.

00:09:10.000 Ah, never mind.

00:09:11.000 Yeah, it's weird when people die.

00:09:13.000 It is.

00:09:14.000 It's very odd.

00:09:15.000 Z R1's badass, though. 0.59

00:09:16.000 The dad would have ZR1.

00:09:18.000 They you see that they did the uh Nuremberg fucking test.

00:09:21.000 And uh with Professor Nuremberg, it was with the engineer.

00:09:24.000 Nuremberg was that's Nazi Germany. 0.59

00:09:27.000 You mean Nerbergring.

00:09:28.000 Yeah.

00:09:30.000 Jason Berg.

00:09:31.000 I have no idea how to pronounce it.

00:09:35.000 I guess the one that begins with an end.

00:09:38.000 I drove that ZR1, not the X, but the regular one.

00:09:40.000 I drove it around Coda.

00:09:42.000 It's fucking incredible.

00:09:43.000 It's incredible.

00:09:44.000 It's like 1,100 horsepower.

00:09:46.000 It sounds like a just like the perfect vehicle.

00:09:49.000 It sounds so good.

00:09:51.000 It feels so good.

00:09:52.000 It's got such handling.

00:09:53.000 It's so good, dude.

00:09:55.000 It's so fucking fat.

00:09:58.000 Does it have a traction issue?

00:10:00.000 No.

00:10:00.000 Fuck no.

00:10:02.000 Giant ass fucking wheels, mid-engine, giant ass tires. 1.00

00:10:05.000 Dude, the widest tire you can buy on a production automobile.

00:10:09.000 But Joe, Joe would drive that shit, then he calls me.

00:10:11.000 I'm like, oh, I need to figure out a way to get one.

00:10:12.000 I need to sell some shit.

00:10:16.000 It's such a good car.

00:10:17.000 They they nailed it, man.

00:10:18.000 It's like they first of all, they nailed it with the the mid-engine with the Corvette, the C eight.

00:10:24.000 And then this is that times a thousand.

00:10:26.000 I remember one time, yeah.

00:10:27.000 I don't know anything about cars, and Joe pops the hood of this new Porsche he had, and he kind of like he went like this.

00:10:32.000 The way you do a magic trick, he goes like that.

00:10:34.000 And I I was like, oh man.

00:10:37.000 I was like, and you said something about being dual aspiration.

00:10:40.000 I was like, dual?

00:10:41.000 You don't even know what I said.

00:10:42.000 Fucking aspiration.

00:10:44.000 You just made up a term.

00:10:46.000 Dual.

00:10:46.000 It has aspirations.

00:10:49.000 It was some dual thing.

00:10:50.000 I was like, oh man.

00:10:52.000 Duel.

00:10:52.000 It's got two lungs instead of one.

00:10:54.000 Michael has one.

00:10:55.000 You're just making things up.

00:10:58.000 That's what I heard.

00:10:58.000 I heard dual aspiration.

00:11:00.000 Alright, so this is the first fight.

00:11:02.000 Gomez is very good.

00:11:04.000 He's from France.

00:11:05.000 That's that dude right there.

00:11:06.000 Yep.

00:11:06.000 Very good striker.

00:11:08.000 And then who is this gentleman?

00:11:10.000 Some white guy.

00:11:11.000 That guy looks like he blocked him.

00:11:12.000 They blocked him right out of Kentucky.

00:11:14.000 Yeah.

00:11:15.000 Poland or Kentucky.

00:11:19.000 I've never been to Paris.

00:11:21.000 I've I had a layover there once in the airport.

00:11:23.000 No desire to go.

00:11:24.000 Great city.

00:11:25.000 Great city.

00:11:25.000 I've no desire to go.

00:11:26.000 How do you say that name?

00:11:27.000 Ruchala.

00:11:29.000 We're chala.

00:11:30.000 Richada.

00:11:30.000 Rushala.

00:11:32.000 Anybody who's fighting in France usually isn't French.

00:11:34.000 It's like by way of like Russia. 0.92

00:11:36.000 You know what I mean?

00:11:37.000 Armenia.

00:11:38.000 Yeah, France is very heavy in terms of its immigration.

00:11:42.000 Yes.

00:11:42.000 A lot of immigrants.

00:11:43.000 A lot of inclusion.

00:11:44.000 Francis and Gano.

00:11:45.000 That's where he's.

00:11:46.000 Oh, that's right.

00:11:46.000 But he's even with Imavov, you know, that was the build-up to this fight.

00:11:49.000 They're like, he's not really French.

00:11:51.000 You know, he's originally Dagestani.

00:11:52.000 Yeah, or Russian, maybe, right?

00:11:54.000 I think Daggy standing.

00:11:55.000 Yeah.

00:11:55.000 Your fave.

00:11:56.000 Yeah, my fave.

00:11:57.000 Every time there's a Dag Stanley knocking somebody out, he's like, are you jerking off Callan?

00:12:01.000 Huh?

00:12:01.000 All of those daggy nuts.

00:12:03.000 Jerking off their nuts, man.

00:12:04.000 Like, look at the way they control their top control, they're flow wrestling, their transitions.

00:12:08.000 How about that guy sent you guys in the text message chain today?

00:12:11.000 Oh, dude.

00:12:11.000 That young kid.

00:12:13.000 That axe kick, that axe kick. 1.00

00:12:14.000 The thing about that kid, though, is I don't think he's a grappler.

00:12:17.000 I think it's just Moy Thai. 0.85

00:12:18.000 That's why he's fighting in one.

00:12:19.000 It's always weird when you see a daggy and he's good at stand-up but not wrestling.

00:12:23.000 What the fuck you've been doing?

00:12:24.000 How about that?

00:12:24.000 Yeah, well, that's Sarah Bullet at 145.

00:12:27.000 Six foot at 145 is kind of bananas.

00:12:29.000 Oh, Cher Bullet's fighting uh Paulo Costa.

00:12:31.000 Oh, that's a good guy with one eye.

00:12:34.000 Yeah.

00:12:35.000 Share a bullet's out of his fucking mind.

00:12:36.000 Yep.

00:12:37.000 He's a big boy.

00:12:37.000 How the fuck does he pass commit?

00:12:39.000 What's the commission doing?

00:12:41.000 You're good.

00:12:41.000 He doesn't fight in America.

00:12:42.000 Yeah.

00:12:43.000 Where we have rules.

00:12:44.000 No, didn't he fight?

00:12:46.000 I don't think he fought in America yet.

00:12:49.000 I don't believe so.

00:12:50.000 Did he?

00:12:50.000 I think you're right.

00:12:52.000 I don't believe he's fought in America.

00:12:54.000 They're like, you just stay out there.

00:12:56.000 I thought it was gonna be tricky for Hamza to fight here, but once Trump became president, they say, come on in, buddy.

00:13:01.000 First round, if you want to sync up to us, it's 452, 451, 450, 449, 448.

00:13:08.000 Here we go.

00:13:08.000 First round.

00:13:09.000 This is a very good card, though.

00:13:11.000 Great card.

00:13:12.000 Especially the last two fights.

00:13:13.000 Oh.

00:13:14.000 For the locals, too.

00:13:15.000 Like there's a bunch of big names in France on here.

00:13:17.000 Like if you're watching local MMA, all the top stars on this card.

00:13:21.000 They they stacked this one, right?

00:13:22.000 Yo, our board Kentucky can move. 0.83

00:13:25.000 Is he from Kentucky?

00:13:26.000 He is now.

00:13:27.000 Gordon, you should, you should Gordon, you should take a couple MMA fights and just turtle up and just get away.

00:13:34.000 They're all in a part of the world, like my friend.

00:13:37.000 Not a problem.

00:13:39.000 Not a problem, my friend.

00:13:40.000 He did film a movie in Hollywood, though, so they allowed him to do that.

00:13:43.000 Sure.

00:13:45.000 And he was a pirate.

00:13:46.000 They probably put an ankle monitor on him.

00:13:47.000 100%.

00:13:49.000 He's not hard to find.

00:13:51.000 Find that red red bearded guy with one eye.

00:13:55.000 Yeah, his only hiccup was Michael Venom Page.

00:13:57.000 Well, that just shows you how fucking good Michael Venom Page is.

00:14:00.000 That's the puzzle.

00:14:01.000 I like MVP at 85.

00:14:03.000 Yeah.

00:14:03.000 Love my 85.

00:14:04.000 Yeah, man.

00:14:05.000 Well, it's a good thing.

00:14:05.000 The cannoner fight, I was like, ah, the size.

00:14:08.000 This is where he might meet his match.

00:14:10.000 Fucked him up.

00:14:10.000 But he fucked around too much.

00:14:12.000 Cannoneer got him on his back.

00:14:13.000 And that's on M MVP.

00:14:15.000 Like, dude, you if you have a guy at that caliber hurt, fucking finish him, dude.

00:14:18.000 Don't wait around.

00:14:19.000 How about Cannonier at 42?

00:14:21.000 He looks like he's made of metal.

00:14:22.000 He is.

00:14:23.000 Hand me that lighter, buddy.

00:14:24.000 It's interesting with with uh uh MVP because he's like so hard to take down because he always has down block hands.

00:14:29.000 Yeah.

00:14:30.000 So he all the punches come from the bottom, and he also has a down block ends.

00:14:33.000 But then once he actually gets put on bottom, he didn't wasn't he couldn't get up.

00:14:36.000 Those guys with that point fighting style are so hard to touch because they're so used to playing that tag game, and their ability to close distance is nuts.

00:14:46.000 Yeah, when you're in the blitz, his speed.

00:14:48.000 Oh, accuracy, too.

00:14:50.000 I mean, he makes everybody look stupid.

00:14:52.000 He make he made Kevin Holland look stupid.

00:14:54.000 I wonder stupid.

00:14:55.000 I wonder what they do with an 85 though, because you start going towards those upper echelon guys, it gets dicey.

00:15:01.000 Well, it's gonna be interesting to see.

00:15:02.000 You know, it's gonna be interesting to see.

00:15:04.000 As long as he doesn't fuck around like he did in the third round with Cannoneer, I think people are gonna have a really hard time even touching him.

00:15:09.000 Early on for sure.

00:15:11.000 He's just so fun to watch anyway.

00:15:12.000 I would keep him as he's just so entertaining.

00:15:14.000 No, dude, you do you there's so many super fights?

00:15:16.000 100%.

00:15:16.000 Did you see what he's saying to the cannon here?

00:15:18.000 Calm down, chill, bro.

00:15:20.000 Chill in my middle of the fight.

00:15:23.000 Chill.

00:15:24.000 After he punched him in the face, chill.

00:15:27.000 Chill.

00:15:27.000 Like, what do you do to that?

00:15:28.000 No, the guy just punches you in the face.

00:15:30.000 And he's telling you to chill.

00:15:32.000 You swing an air because it's just like, oh god.

00:15:34.000 Think how good Ian Machado Gary is.

00:15:36.000 I know.

00:15:37.000 People sleep on Ian.

00:15:38.000 He's such a beast, man.

00:15:40.000 Yeah, you can't.

00:15:40.000 Well, it just shows you how good Shovcott is.

00:15:42.000 Yeah.

00:15:42.000 Right?

00:15:42.000 The only guy that's ever beat him by decision.

00:15:44.000 Yeah.

00:15:44.000 I mean, that was a good thing.

00:15:45.000 You're doing Shovcott versus Sean Brady.

00:15:48.000 That's a good fight.

00:15:49.000 I love that fight.

00:15:50.000 That's a real good fight.

00:15:51.000 That's a real good fight.

00:15:52.000 I'd like to know what injury Shovcott had that led him to not take the title shot.

00:15:57.000 Wild.

00:15:58.000 Yeah.

00:15:58.000 I mean, it must have been a serious process.

00:16:00.000 He had surgery.

00:16:01.000 I know he had surgery.

00:16:02.000 But apparently before the Machado fight, he was not going to take that fight.

00:16:06.000 Like he's that injured.

00:16:07.000 But he took that fight, won that fight, and then had to get surgery.

00:16:10.000 He had a lot of hype too, and then just kind of went.

00:16:13.000 Yeah, people forget, man, there's so many good dudes.

00:16:15.000 You know, it's Carlos Protest is coming up.

00:16:18.000 How about that fucking guy?

00:16:19.000 Jeff Neal.

00:16:20.000 Now he's fighting Leon Edwards.

00:16:22.000 Ooh, Protez versus Edwards.

00:16:24.000 Pretty sure it's on Mass More.

00:16:25.000 Is it Mass Square Garden, Jamie?

00:16:27.000 Protest is so much taller than I can.

00:16:29.000 Oh my god.

00:16:29.000 That's a tough fight for Leon.

00:16:31.000 That's a tough fight.

00:16:31.000 Well, the kid's an animal.

00:16:33.000 Protez at smoking cigarettes, drinking.

00:16:35.000 Again.

00:16:35.000 Machado Gary beat him.

00:16:37.000 Yep.

00:16:37.000 Beat him.

00:16:38.000 People sleeping on Ian.

00:16:39.000 He had Machado hurt though.

00:16:40.000 He dropped him, remember?

00:16:42.000 Is it Mass Square Garden?

00:16:43.000 So, yeah.

00:16:45.000 So Brady's fighting Shovkad?

00:16:47.000 Yeah.

00:16:47.000 Wow.

00:16:48.000 Like that fight a lot.

00:16:49.000 Brady baby gorilla.

00:16:51.000 Brady was impressive when he fought Leon.

00:16:53.000 Oh, yeah.

00:16:54.000 Like he did.

00:16:55.000 He did a lot of, he did most of the things right to keep him down.

00:16:58.000 Yeah, and he's got like extra layers of muscle on his back that make him look like a turtle.

00:17:02.000 Yeah.

00:17:04.000 Who is his loss to?

00:17:05.000 Who did he look to?

00:17:06.000 Bala Maham B. Balal stop.

00:17:09.000 He got beat up back.

00:17:10.000 That fight.

00:17:10.000 But he learned from it.

00:17:11.000 Edwards versus Protestant.

00:17:12.000 How about Pratt is just smoking cigs?

00:17:14.000 Yeah, no, it's crazy.

00:17:16.000 It's like Joe Shilling.

00:17:17.000 I love it.

00:17:18.000 It's like whole personas basically like, I'm gonna prove you can be degenerate.

00:17:21.000 Yeah.

00:17:21.000 And still fuck people up.

00:17:22.000 Well, he can.

00:17:23.000 Yeah, he's he's doing it.

00:17:24.000 He's that good.

00:17:25.000 But also, over a hundred fights.

00:17:28.000 Really?

00:17:28.000 Yeah.

00:17:29.000 Multiple kickboxing, MMA.

00:17:32.000 Over 100.

00:17:33.000 He's a talented kid.

00:17:34.000 Under 30.

00:17:35.000 Come on.

00:17:36.000 Right?

00:17:37.000 How old is he?

00:17:37.000 How old's Pratt's?

00:17:38.000 I think he's 28.

00:17:39.000 That's like those Russian amateur fighters.

00:17:41.000 32?

00:17:41.000 Yeah.

00:17:42.000 Oh, is he really?

00:17:42.000 Yeah.

00:17:43.000 That's like a Russian boxers.

00:17:45.000 The amateur careers will be like 150 fights before they even turn pro.

00:17:48.000 Bro, the craziest guys are the ties.

00:17:50.000 Bulkov just fought recently.

00:17:52.000 He's 43.

00:17:53.000 I think he has 287 fights.

00:17:54.000 So insane.

00:17:56.000 What?

00:17:56.000 So what?

00:17:57.000 What?

00:17:58.000 But I think 287 times.

00:18:00.000 Yeah.

00:18:00.000 but that's boxing in general, kickboxing in general.

00:18:02.000 Like even the states, that's typically how it is.

00:18:04.000 Like those those young dudes have so many amateur fights.

00:18:07.000 But we're used to the Jake Paul's and this shit, and people just jump to the top.

00:18:11.000 Right.

00:18:12.000 Where it's kind of watering it down.

00:18:13.000 Yeah.

00:18:13.000 They they they're brought up with people that are at their level slowly, especially with boxing.

00:18:18.000 Speaking of boxing, what do you think about like next week?

00:18:20.000 Canelo?

00:18:21.000 Can't wait.

00:18:21.000 Oh, Canelo, Crawford.

00:18:23.000 See, I don't think it's gonna be that entertaining of a fight.

00:18:25.000 What?

00:18:26.000 What makes you say that?

00:18:27.000 Why?

00:18:27.000 I mean, I guess if Crawford takes some chances, but you he's jumping up such a high weight class.

00:18:33.000 I Canelo by decision.

00:18:34.000 I tell you what though, Crawford looks thick.

00:18:36.000 You see the photos of him that he put on his Instagram?

00:18:38.000 He's got big legs.

00:18:39.000 I know.

00:18:39.000 He's fucking jacked.

00:18:43.000 That's a good question.

00:18:44.000 You think it makes them fast?

00:18:45.000 That's a good question.

00:18:45.000 Piss tells how dare you.

00:18:47.000 But B, I'm not sure.

00:18:49.000 Yeah.

00:18:49.000 I'm not sure though.

00:18:51.000 Look at that.

00:18:51.000 Come on, son.

00:18:52.000 Look at that.

00:18:52.000 Yeah.

00:18:53.000 Call's jerking off to this later.

00:18:54.000 I am.

00:18:56.000 I have a boner that could cut glass right now.

00:18:58.000 There's a photo on one of the websites that shows him at uh when he's fighting at 47, ripped versus him fighting now at 68 ripped, and he definitely looks thicker.

00:19:08.000 He looks quite quite a bit thicker.

00:19:10.000 Technical, he he's better than Canelo.

00:19:12.000 I just don't see him being Canelo.

00:19:13.000 I don't know if he's better technically.

00:19:14.000 Canelo's pretty good technical.

00:19:16.000 Pound for pound number one in the world.

00:19:17.000 He's so good.

00:19:18.000 Not even close.

00:19:19.000 Crawford's so good.

00:19:20.000 What he did to Errol Spence is unbelievable.

00:19:23.000 But then also remember, Crawford hasn't fought in two years.

00:19:27.000 Is it that long?

00:19:28.000 Yep.

00:19:28.000 He's great in this way.

00:19:29.000 Madromov was two years ago.

00:19:31.000 Well, the thing about Errol Spence, though, you gotta remember Errol Spence crashed his Ferrari and flipped it and flew out and landed on his head.

00:19:39.000 Like he got fucked up in that car accident. 0.87

00:19:41.000 I know, but I don't think it had anything to do with it.

00:19:43.000 I think Crawford's just got a hire fighter. 0.99

00:19:45.000 No, it had to do something with it.

00:19:46.000 A guy that gets that fucked up.

00:19:48.000 Crawford's so good.

00:19:49.000 Like he does that to everybody.

00:19:50.000 Crawford's so good.

00:19:51.000 No doubt.

00:19:51.000 He was like he was ejected from his Ferrari.

00:19:54.000 Yeah.

00:19:54.000 Landed on his skull.

00:19:55.000 It is crying.

00:19:57.000 Go back to the colour.

00:20:00.000 Callan, you need to take a screenshot of that and bring it into the table.

00:20:03.000 Dude, it's burned in my mind.

00:20:04.000 It's burning my mind.

00:20:05.000 Bring it into the bathroom later. 0.83

00:20:06.000 I'll start crying.

00:20:07.000 That's fantastic.

00:20:08.000 When you come, you're gonna cry.

00:20:09.000 But I'm full of shame.

00:20:11.000 As you're coming, oh no.

00:20:13.000 And then I'll watch it, and then I'll then I'll look at it again.

00:20:15.000 And then you look at yourself in the mirror.

00:20:18.000 Think about Canelo Crawford, you got Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather, that's happening.

00:20:25.000 And then you have Jake Paul, Javante Davis.

00:20:28.000 That's the state of boxing.

00:20:29.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

00:20:30.000 Let that sink in.

00:20:31.000 Jake boxing.

00:20:32.000 Javante Davis is so crazy. 0.62

00:20:34.000 135 versus 200.

00:20:36.000 That is so nuts.

00:20:37.000 They all they're all ex or expedition.

00:20:39.000 None of them are they're exhibitions.

00:20:41.000 But what does that mean?

00:20:43.000 Just means you don't really nobody wins.

00:20:45.000 They're not right.

00:20:46.000 It's kind of I mean it's weird.

00:20:47.000 I don't want Jake to assume that they're not it's not like a real scrap.

00:20:51.000 It's not real.

00:20:52.000 Really?

00:20:52.000 So they're not trying to knock each other out.

00:20:53.000 No, Mike Tyson and Floyd Mayweather don't like each other.

00:20:56.000 They have not liked each other forever.

00:20:57.000 Tyson and Mayweather.

00:20:58.000 Yes.

00:20:58.000 But they like Mike Tyson and Mayweather don't like each other.

00:21:01.000 If there's a fight that might be real, like where Mike Tyson might say, I'm gonna knock this motherfucker out, or I'm gonna try to knock this motherfucker out.

00:21:08.000 It would be Floyd.

00:21:09.000 They wouldn't.

00:21:10.000 Yeah, because if you look at like the Jake Paul fight, no disrespect.

00:21:13.000 And if you look at the Roy Jones fight, no disrespect.

00:21:16.000 They look like they're sparring.

00:21:17.000 Yeah.

00:21:17.000 Right?

00:21:18.000 It looked like there was agreements made.

00:21:19.000 Yeah.

00:21:20.000 Uh I uh I do not know if Mike would honor any of those agreements.

00:21:25.000 Really?

00:21:25.000 If there was a moment to be for years.

00:21:27.000 Yeah.

00:21:28.000 If there was a moment to really could he hit him?

00:21:31.000 I mean, that little motherfucker can move still at 50 years old. 0.93

00:21:34.000 He's so slick.

00:21:36.000 Yep.

00:21:36.000 He's still in shape.

00:21:37.000 He's still fit.

00:21:38.000 They're both old as fuck.

00:21:39.000 Old as fuck. 0.97

00:21:40.000 But this is the boxing.

00:21:41.000 How old is Mayweather?

00:21:42.000 67?

00:21:44.000 Dude, Bernard Hopkins.

00:21:45.000 Bernard Hopkins was still at the best in the world at 50.

00:21:48.000 Yep.

00:21:48.000 I mean, that's incredible.

00:21:49.000 That doesn't mean shit though.

00:21:50.000 With this.

00:21:52.000 Because he was active fighting contenders.

00:21:53.000 Kentucky's got Gomez on the ground. 0.99

00:21:56.000 You're talking about two retired guys.

00:21:58.000 Yeah.

00:21:58.000 Fighting the exhibition.

00:22:01.000 It's so weird though.

00:22:02.000 Yeah.

00:22:02.000 It is weird.

00:22:03.000 It's money grabs.

00:22:04.000 I don't like it, but it's fun.

00:22:05.000 You know, something to watch.

00:22:07.000 I hate on it, but tune in.

00:22:08.000 Yeah, I'll tune it out.

00:22:09.000 It's you know, it's but it's not really fighting.

00:22:11.000 So Jake Paul's not gonna actually be trying to knock out Germany Davis, you know.

00:22:16.000 If I had a guess.

00:22:18.000 Yeah.

00:22:19.000 The event itself would be a world-class venue be presented to a global audience with new in-ring technology elements that will reshape how boxing is presented and scoring is achieved for years to come.

00:22:28.000 What does that mean?

00:22:29.000 That shit has Abu Dhabi written all over.

00:22:31.000 What does that mean?

00:22:31.000 This is Tyson versus Mayweather.

00:22:33.000 What does that mean?

00:22:33.000 I don't know.

00:22:34.000 Where are they doing that?

00:22:34.000 Are they doing that in Saudi Arabia?

00:22:36.000 Of but of course.

00:22:37.000 But of course.

00:22:38.000 Because they have all the money.

00:22:39.000 My friend.

00:22:39.000 And they just they just go, What do you want to see?

00:22:41.000 I'd always like to see Floyd Tyson.

00:22:44.000 Who wants to fight an alligator? 0.62

00:22:50.000 They got that oil money dog.

00:22:51.000 This I'm really curious about uh Crawford uh Canelo.

00:22:54.000 Because they're they're actually kind of the same size, same height.

00:22:57.000 They're not the same size.

00:22:59.000 They're not the same size.

00:23:00.000 They look they look pretty much the same size, but I know.

00:23:02.000 No, but once it made a career fighting at much heavier, right?

00:23:05.000 It would be like a one thirty-five or jump up to one seventy.

00:23:07.000 You can lose the same size frame wise.

00:23:09.000 Yeah, but one guy made a career, finding at 170.

00:23:12.000 But right now, right now they kind of are the same size.

00:23:15.000 Well, right now.

00:23:16.000 But once a naturally gifted bigger guy and is competed at world class level at that heavy weight.

00:23:21.000 So you can't say they're the same.

00:23:24.000 Yeah, you're not gonna be as fast.

00:23:26.000 He had to put on a lot of weight.

00:23:28.000 And one made a career at that major adaptations.

00:23:30.000 The other one's just doing it for a money grab.

00:23:32.000 He hasn't fought in two years.

00:23:33.000 Well, he was doing it for legacy, and he is he is like he prepared for this.

00:23:39.000 It's not like he just went had a fight at 147 and then jumped up to 68 three months later.

00:23:44.000 Yeah.

00:23:44.000 Like he really big jump though, isn't it?

00:23:46.000 He did a sixty eight.

00:23:49.000 Yeah.

00:23:50.000 We'll see.

00:23:50.000 I'm I'm interested in that.

00:23:51.000 Yeah.

00:23:52.000 Just because I think Crawford's that good.

00:23:54.000 I just don't think I think this is the problem with boxings.

00:23:56.000 They built these things up like, you know, Jake and Tyson and people think it's me this great product, or Crawford and Canelo.

00:24:03.000 And it's not there's not much action.

00:24:05.000 Bro, I'll tell you who's this real fucking deal.

00:24:09.000 Moses.

00:24:10.000 Moses Atoma.

00:24:11.000 Do you know who that motherfucker is?

00:24:13.000 The giant 20 year old heavy.

00:24:15.000 Oh, yes.

00:24:15.000 Yes, bro.

00:24:17.000 Did you see what he did to Dillion White?

00:24:18.000 Yes, he's a project.

00:24:22.000 Yeah.

00:24:22.000 That guy's a big thing.

00:24:23.000 Is he only 20?

00:24:24.000 20 years old.

00:24:25.000 Yeah.

00:24:26.000 He's just slightly older than Tyson was when he won the title, so he can't be the youngest guy to ever win the title.

00:24:30.000 Damn.

00:24:31.000 This motherfucker is so fast. 1.00

00:24:33.000 He moves like a middleweight.

00:24:34.000 Here's I Tom.

00:24:36.000 Watch this guy.

00:24:37.000 That's that Samoan, Samoan or whatever it is.

00:24:39.000 Bro, look at the fucking skill.

00:24:41.000 It's the skill, the movement back in the world.

00:24:43.000 It's no joke either.

00:24:44.000 Don't white's no joke. 0.95

00:24:45.000 Look at this shit.

00:24:46.000 It'd be nice if you said his name right.

00:24:47.000 It's Dillion.

00:24:48.000 But it's all right.

00:24:50.000 Bro, he tuned this guy up.

00:24:52.000 One round, man.

00:24:53.000 I mean, again, White is past his promise.

00:24:56.000 He's also gotten beat up.

00:24:57.000 White's gotten up.

00:24:58.000 Yeah, sure.

00:24:58.000 Tyson Fury beat him up.

00:24:59.000 A lot of guys.

00:25:00.000 But this is the test you want for this young contender.

00:25:02.000 It's the way he did it.

00:25:04.000 He did it like I'm a world champion.

00:25:06.000 Mop the floor with a water.

00:25:07.000 Didn't Deontay Wilder start starts him as well.

00:25:10.000 Oh, I don't know if they fought.

00:25:11.000 I don't know if Deontay fought Dillion Wild.

00:25:13.000 They're trying to do Deontay Wilder Francis.

00:25:15.000 They're talking shit to each other.

00:25:16.000 Take my fucking money.

00:25:17.000 Yeah, take that.

00:25:18.000 See, that that's not an exhibition.

00:25:19.000 That that the MMA boxing, take my that, take my fucking money. 0.83

00:25:22.000 But Crawford Canelo's not an exhibition, Bubba.

00:25:25.000 Who do you think gets knocked out in that one?

00:25:28.000 At this stage of the game?

00:25:29.000 I don't know if you gotta you know what the problem with Wilder is?

00:25:32.000 He did all that ayahuasca.

00:25:33.000 He's too friendly.

00:25:35.000 Whenever someone does too much ayahuasca, I'm like, oh, he's losing.

00:25:38.000 Or any ayahuasca.

00:25:40.000 If you want to be a fighter.

00:25:43.000 I lost the killer and thing.

00:25:45.000 Really?

00:25:47.000 Darkness.

00:25:48.000 That happens to a lot of guys.

00:25:49.000 Really?

00:25:49.000 Yeah, they come back and they're just like too sweet.

00:25:51.000 Some of them say all of them.

00:25:53.000 My buddy just came back from doing a 10-day ayahuasca retreat.

00:25:57.000 He's made billions of dollars.

00:25:58.000 And he goes, I go, how was it?

00:26:00.000 He goes, it was intense.

00:26:01.000 And I go, Oh, that's cool.

00:26:02.000 And he goes, I just have a deeper appreciation for my friends.

00:26:05.000 Fuck you.

00:26:06.000 Did you say that?

00:26:06.000 It was great.

00:26:07.000 He goes, I thought about you.

00:26:08.000 I was like, oh boy, this is getting awkward.

00:26:09.000 I was rocking a card thing by say, hey, give me some money.

00:26:12.000 Yeah, I know.

00:26:13.000 It's still high.

00:26:14.000 I'd love to pay my mortgage.

00:26:17.000 Before this one's still high.

00:26:18.000 Cut me a check.

00:26:20.000 Did you tell Robert?

00:26:21.000 Did you tell Rogue that time he did ayahuasca?

00:26:23.000 If it's mushrooms, I don't want to get into that.

00:26:25.000 What'd you do?

00:26:26.000 No, no, I didn't say it got real bad.

00:26:28.000 Tell him I literally did the God dose or whatever.

00:26:31.000 He didn't mean to do it.

00:26:32.000 Dude, I did three grams and I was in Mother Earth's vagina. 1.00

00:26:35.000 And then I did four more grams because I was invited to take more medicine, and the sun sucked me into his mouth and spit me out into one of the upper rings.

00:26:42.000 No, no, but tell what you're doing in real life.

00:26:44.000 Don't tell him what the word you're saying.

00:26:45.000 So I'm gonna just say this.

00:26:46.000 I I I was uh I apparently I was because I thought I was in hell.

00:26:51.000 Apparently for four hours I was asking for a manager.

00:26:54.000 I was asking to speak to a manager.

00:26:56.000 Yeah, because I needed to get out of there because I was like, I need to speak to a manager.

00:26:59.000 I don't believe I'm a good person.

00:27:00.000 I just tripped into a portal.

00:27:01.000 I need to get home and hell wrote in the real.

00:27:06.000 I don't want to get into the profusely farting.

00:27:09.000 my buddy goes, you were in a you were in the field position farting so loud.

00:27:13.000 Screaming and screaming.

00:27:15.000 Screwing this word we can't say.

00:27:17.000 Screaming a lot of different words that you're not allowed to say on the top.

00:27:21.000 Okay.

00:27:21.000 Dude, when he told me, I was like, what the fuck?

00:27:24.000 That's why they're illegal.

00:27:25.000 Dude, I don't remember anything.

00:27:27.000 I don't remember anything.

00:27:28.000 You try to get me to do it.

00:27:29.000 I'm like, get the fuck out of here.

00:27:31.000 Slightly less.

00:27:32.000 Yeah, you know what I learned?

00:27:34.000 Don't do mushrooms anymore.

00:27:35.000 When I did Well, just don't do seven grams when you're troubled.

00:27:39.000 You made me eat a whole chocolate bar on this podcast.

00:27:41.000 You had to.

00:27:41.000 You see that because you look at me in in the video, I'm like this.

00:27:45.000 It had to had to be done.

00:27:47.000 Yeah.

00:27:47.000 But that's like three.

00:27:49.000 Three's a three's reasonable.

00:27:52.000 You get to around five and things get very strange.

00:27:54.000 Then you start meeting aliens.

00:27:56.000 Joe, now that you stop uh alcohol, yeah.

00:27:59.000 Are you smoking more more weed?

00:28:00.000 Allegedly.

00:28:02.000 Which usually how it goes.

00:28:03.000 Allegedly.

00:28:04.000 I thought you stopped smoking weed.

00:28:05.000 I don't know why.

00:28:06.000 Maybe.

00:28:08.000 They gotta make that shit legal. 1.00

00:28:09.000 I gotta talk to the big guy.

00:28:11.000 Yeah.

00:28:12.000 Donald, you want to make some friends?

00:28:14.000 Texas.

00:28:14.000 This is how you go.

00:28:15.000 This is how it goes.

00:28:16.000 You want to make some real friends?

00:28:17.000 You will like they won't know what to do.

00:28:19.000 Dude, he's in see what he's doing right now in Chicago?

00:28:22.000 This is one of the funniest things ever.

00:28:23.000 They are now saying they're going to look into taking gun rights away from transgender people.

00:28:30.000 So what happens now is liberals have to defend gun rights.

00:28:34.000 I love it.

00:28:34.000 I know it's a genius.

00:28:36.000 This is like the ultimate trap.

00:28:38.000 This is like the ultimate trap.

00:28:39.000 It's like the meme of the guy sweating with the two buttons.

00:28:46.000 It's like first of all, he says things that he doesn't mean.

00:28:50.000 Like it's wild when a president says we're looking into taking away Rosie O'Donnell citizenship.

00:28:55.000 You can't do that.

00:28:57.000 I saw a meme yesterday and was like, Imagine Rosie O'Donnell moves to Ireland to escape Trump and then McGregor just becomes the legal.

00:29:04.000 Very well might.

00:29:05.000 He really might win.

00:29:06.000 I saw the some video he posted like campaigning for it's at like 50 million views.

00:29:11.000 Apparently he has like sixty percent in the poll.

00:29:14.000 Wait, who's this?

00:29:15.000 Connor McGregor, being the president of Ireland.

00:29:17.000 He just did like that.

00:29:18.000 You know what that motherfucker's basically Arnold Schwarzenegger, but for for us for the UFC.

00:29:22.000 Uh uh meeting movie, you know, movie star, yeah.

00:29:27.000 Two time world champion.

00:29:29.000 Now if he becomes president, that's not actor.

00:29:32.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:29:33.000 Well, there's a there's a real movement, you know, in in England and in Ireland because of this sort of like unchecked immigration.

00:29:40.000 Well, dude, Elon's gone off the off the fucking chain too.

00:29:42.000 Yeah.

00:29:43.000 Elon's making posts like you guys gotta fight back.

00:29:45.000 Oh yeah, man.

00:29:46.000 Because people are getting arrested in England just for posting stuff on social media about it.

00:29:50.000 Bro, they're post they are arresting thousands of people in England.

00:29:54.000 Did they say 1400 a day?

00:29:56.000 Who was on my podcast?

00:29:57.000 Yeah, he left my podcast, went back to England and they arrested him.

00:30:00.000 What?

00:30:00.000 Oh wow.

00:30:02.000 I I just had Tommy Robinson online.

00:30:03.000 You know Tommy Robinson is?

00:30:05.000 Yeah.

00:30:05.000 So he got arrested uh for the same thing for for a documentary, and I just had him on.

00:30:09.000 He got arrested for a document.

00:30:10.000 Yes, dude, he did 18 months.

00:30:12.000 What?

00:30:12.000 He just got out, he just did the podcast.

00:30:13.000 What was the documentary about?

00:30:15.000 It was basically about his hometown, which he grew in up to.

00:30:18.000 It started out with one mosque, and now there are 49 in his hometown of Luton.

00:30:22.000 I think it's called Lutton.

00:30:24.000 And basically just talking about uh the grooming gangs and stuff.

00:30:28.000 Um it is crazy what they're doing.

00:30:30.000 They just didn't check immigration the hiking band, the bank of Canada.

00:30:34.000 Yeah.

00:30:38.000 You can't go for climate change.

00:30:40.000 I watched a video yesterday.

00:30:41.000 They find you 28,000.

00:30:44.000 Of a veteran, like takes a video like, hey, I'm with the guys here, not on camera because we're not allowed to record them.

00:30:49.000 But they said that if I walk into the woods here, I'm gonna get a 28,000 dollar fine.

00:30:53.000 Are you fucking kidding?

00:30:54.000 He takes a video of him, he walks three feet into the woods, walks out, and then he's there's a video of him at the desk saying, It's a twenty-eight thousand dollars.

00:31:01.000 Oh, it's like a twenty-five thousand dollar fine plus like three thousand dollars in like taxes and victim fees.

00:31:06.000 Canada's so full of Canada's such a mess. 0.99

00:31:09.000 Well, they are what we can be if we're not careful.

00:31:12.000 If you have the wrong people running the country, cautionary I mean, if if it gave it got to a point where some of these people, if you took away the natural born citizenship thing, like if you could be a president and never born in America, we'd be fucked.

00:31:27.000 Super fucked.

00:31:28.000 We'd be fucked because we're already fucked when they become mayors and uh and and when they become governor, if they if that starts happening, you're just gonna import people from all over the world and they're gonna take whatever their country is and make that state it.

00:31:40.000 Let me ask you this.

00:31:40.000 Is it true that when you have un so if you have a bunch of illegal immigrants in your town?

00:31:45.000 Your your your census numbers go up?

00:31:48.000 Yes.

00:31:48.000 So so Congressional seats.

00:31:50.000 Right.

00:31:50.000 So the way it works is the census only counts how many human beings.

00:31:52.000 It doesn't count how many illegal aliens.

00:31:56.000 It doesn't matter.

00:31:56.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:31:57.000 So that's why they were moving people in with buses.

00:31:59.000 So that's why they moved all these people to swing states.

00:32:01.000 So you're basically rigging these areas.

00:32:04.000 And then they were trying to offer a pathway to citizenship and allow those people to vote, which would have completely rigged all the swing states.

00:32:10.000 Wow.

00:32:10.000 Yeah.

00:32:11.000 I mean, Elon talked about it pretty extensively and documented it.

00:32:14.000 It's it's a real thing.

00:32:15.000 And people push back about it, it's a dangerous conspiracy theory.

00:32:19.000 But it's not.

00:32:19.000 Because the census counts people.

00:32:22.000 And the more people you have, the more congressional seats you get.

00:32:25.000 If they just eliminated that, the Democrats would be cooked.

00:32:28.000 If I don't know if that's even legal, though.

00:32:30.000 I think constitutionally it's it's basically the way it's set up, it's supposed to be the amount of people.

00:32:35.000 It's not supposed to be the amount of legal citizens, which which it should be.

00:32:38.000 Congressional seats.

00:32:39.000 I mean, come on, it's crazy.

00:32:41.000 Especially when you're just opening up the border and you allowed 20 million people to come in over a period of four years, which is a massive percentage of the population of the United States.

00:32:50.000 It's nuts.

00:32:51.000 Like twenty twenty million people.

00:32:52.000 I was like, it's so much huge percentage of the original population.

00:32:56.000 Tommy Robinson told me forty-three percent, I don't know if this is true, but I think it's something like forty-three percent of the immigrants that come into the UK and I think in Europe in general, are on the dole, but especially in the UK.

00:33:06.000 So they're on the dole.

00:33:07.000 They're they're literally on welfare.

00:33:08.000 Yep.

00:33:09.000 And and the main problem is that a lot of these people from certain countries don't assimilate.

00:33:14.000 No.

00:33:14.000 Because they are you know, uh Islamic first and then, you know, and essentially the the whole idea is to get a caliphate uh create a caliphate in the UK, which is insane.

00:33:24.000 Well, they're doing it.

00:33:25.000 That's what's really insane is that they're doing it.

00:33:28.000 But the thing is like who's allowing this to happen?

00:33:30.000 And what's the end goal?

00:33:31.000 Do you see the new lady who apparently was just the uh just got elected for in the UK for like for like border patrol and it's just like her with Arabic or farse or whatever it is written behind her? 0.74

00:33:41.000 Oh yeah, she wants Sharia law. 1.00

00:33:43.000 Like it's it's completely bananas.

00:33:45.000 What?

00:33:46.000 Yeah.

00:33:46.000 This is the problem.

00:33:47.000 It's like you want to assimilate, great, doesn't matter where you're from, what your religion, who cares? 0.98

00:33:51.000 But if you want to start overthrowing the very country that you're emigrating into, make them a lot of people. 1.00

00:33:55.000 But the bomb is if you say something against it, then oh your race.

00:34:01.000 I'm not racist.

00:34:02.000 I grew up in the Arab world.

00:34:03.000 Fuck from I'm the farthest thing from I love I grew up with the Arabs and and Muslims, so don't you can't call me that, but that's fucking crazy.

00:34:10.000 I'm not racist.

00:34:11.000 Yeah, everybody ever raised black trans.

00:34:12.000 Here's the difference though.

00:34:13.000 Can I just say this?

00:34:14.000 Yeah.

00:34:14.000 The the biggest thing that the left does is this.

00:34:16.000 You you say there's a problem, which is a legit problem.

00:34:19.000 You say, you know, uh London's now minority uh country, th there there's there are these young Muslim men, for example, who are not assimilating and are becoming militant and fundamentalist.

00:34:28.000 Okay, you say something like that.

00:34:30.000 What then a leftist will say is they'll go, instead of like debating that issue, which is a problem, you're just stating a problem.

00:34:36.000 Okay.

00:34:37.000 They will say, Oh, you're you're Islamophobic, you're xenophobic, and you're racist.

00:34:41.000 So they they they diagnose you.

00:34:43.000 They kind of they I'm stealing this from Nick Friedest, by the way, so shout out to Nick Fritis.

00:34:47.000 But that that's what they'll do.

00:34:48.000 They'll they'll diagnose the person and their personality and their character, not they'll step outside of the debate.

00:34:54.000 Yeah.

00:34:55.000 So you can't have a conversation with people like that.

00:34:57.000 No, no.

00:34:59.000 But that's how it's scary though, is because there's no talking point.

00:35:01.000 There's like there's no common ground that you can.

00:35:04.000 You can't agree on that.

00:35:05.000 Right.

00:35:05.000 So it's like if I'm over here and you're over here, and we both can't meet somewhere in the middle.

00:35:09.000 Right.

00:35:10.000 Men can't get pregnant. 1.00

00:35:11.000 Exactly.

00:35:12.000 At some point you just have to fight.

00:35:13.000 Right.

00:35:16.000 You've got a divorce, or you have to you have to fight.

00:35:18.000 But don't you think that this is on purpose?

00:35:20.000 I think it's to keep each other at each other's throats.

00:35:22.000 Yes.

00:35:22.000 It's to keep us in chaos so that they can implement more control.

00:35:25.000 And it's working.

00:35:26.000 Yeah.

00:35:27.000 Well, is it?

00:35:27.000 Or are we starting to get wise to the fact that we're all being game?

00:35:30.000 It's a battle.

00:35:31.000 Yeah.

00:35:31.000 It's a battle.

00:35:32.000 Or the matter wise to it, though.

00:35:34.000 Well, it's a wor it's working on a lot of people.

00:35:35.000 There's a lot of people that are just falling right in.

00:35:37.000 Yeah.

00:35:37.000 They're falling right in line.

00:35:38.000 And you know, and if you tell them that they're homophobic or xenophobic or transphobic, they'll do whatever the fuck they can to avoid that label, and so then they fall right into your trap.

00:35:47.000 Although Trump did get elected, and it seems like the that that argument by the by the left is starting to lose a lot of its state.

00:35:54.000 Yeah, but it only he only elected by half the country.

00:35:56.000 Right.

00:35:57.000 The other half the country didn't want them.

00:35:58.000 That's a lot of people.

00:35:59.000 It's a lot of people.

00:36:00.000 So it worked on a lot of people.

00:36:02.000 They were in the the process of implementing a plan.

00:36:06.000 And that plan, if it worked, would have made this country a one party state.

00:36:11.000 But disliking Trump and disliking those policies are two different things, right?

00:36:14.000 So there are people that are conservative who don't like Trump.

00:36:16.000 There are people that are moderate Democrats or Republicans who don't like Trump.

00:36:20.000 My my question is you would know this better.

00:36:23.000 How much of this stuff online is real?

00:36:26.000 Is real bots?

00:36:27.000 Bots.

00:36:27.000 How much?

00:36:28.000 Huge percentage.

00:36:28.000 Really still.

00:36:32.000 An FBI analyst said his money is 80% of the people that are posting on Twitter are bots.

00:36:36.000 What?

00:36:37.000 Posting what though?

00:36:38.000 Just political shit?

00:36:39.000 All kinds of stuff.

00:36:41.000 Climate, politics, race, gender.

00:36:44.000 There was uh that China just got busted using Chat GPT to run uh a host of different accounts, a bunch of different accounts that were all posting about USA B USAI being shut down.

00:36:55.000 They were posting about L L B G T Q plus TA, whatever the fuck issues.

00:37:00.000 Just to divide us more.

00:37:01.000 Just trying to get it.

00:37:03.000 So Brian Shaw told me that he posted a picture of him and Jordan Peterson.

00:37:06.000 He always gets love, you know, he's the strong man.

00:37:09.000 And he said that he was getting all this like immediately, just all these comments that were like, how could you do this and stuff like that?

00:37:15.000 Then he'd go to the profile and be like, this is this doesn't feel like it's real.

00:37:19.000 No, not a real person.

00:37:20.000 It's not a real person.

00:37:21.000 There's a giant percentage on Instagram, a giant percentage on Facebook and on Twitter that are not real.

00:37:26.000 And it's legal and you can do it, and I bet we do it too.

00:37:29.000 I bet corporations do it.

00:37:31.000 I bet human you can crowdfund, by the way, on purpose, like say if Brian Cowan, well, if you like you ha hated Brendan Chob, it shouldn't be the fighter and the kid, it should be the kid and the kid, just me.

00:37:41.000 Everybody agrees.

00:37:42.000 You could literally you could literally go to a company and have them attack Brendan Chab.

00:37:49.000 And you would pay for it.

00:37:50.000 And they would use their bots.

00:37:53.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:37:54.000 Well, it's been it can be done on anyone.

00:37:56.000 That's the point.

00:37:56.000 It's like any whatever your goal is.

00:37:58.000 Say, let's get rid of all red lights.

00:38:00.000 No more no more traffic lights.

00:38:02.000 You could do that.

00:38:03.000 You you could have whatever the fuck you want, have a bunch of fake people protesting.

00:38:09.000 What a waste of fucking time.

00:38:10.000 You know, you can't do that.

00:38:11.000 But it's not really.

00:38:12.000 It's not really what you're talking about.

00:38:13.000 It's effective with dumb people.

00:38:15.000 Yeah, especially if we have a country doing it.

00:38:16.000 Like China can do it to us.

00:38:18.000 But we can't do it to them.

00:38:19.000 Right.

00:38:20.000 We can't get into their system.

00:38:23.000 They have whatever they want.

00:38:24.000 The people know.

00:38:24.000 Oh, well, we're a company.

00:38:25.000 They run their own propaganda and they run it against us, which is that might be the least of our problems.

00:38:29.000 We let them buy land around military bases.

00:38:36.000 I mean, the biggest issue with China is definitely AI. 0.54

00:38:37.000 Yeah.

00:38:40.000 But you those two dudes you had on here with AI, they're saying we're actually still a step ahead of them.

00:38:45.000 I don't know if they know.

00:38:46.000 Did I summarize that?

00:38:47.000 Yeah, they they said that at the time, but I don't know if they know.

00:38:52.000 Because here's the thing.

00:38:53.000 They steal all the data from open AI.

00:38:56.000 They steal data from like Grok just got infiltrated by this guy who stole their shit allegedly and then sold it to open AI and open AI got infiltrated allegedly by China.

00:39:07.000 Like these you've got all these Chinese nationals that are over here working.

00:39:11.000 Yeah, that's how they're in the air.

00:39:15.000 They're Chinese nations.

00:39:16.000 Because remember when we when we had Tulsa, this was like the biggest problem America's facing, for sure.

00:39:20.000 100%.

00:39:21.000 Because when we had Tulsi Gabriel on the podcast right now, I was like, yeah, Russian uh what did it say?

00:39:25.000 Russian hackers.

00:39:25.000 I kept talking about Russian hackers, and she's like, hey, uh off the air, she's like, just so you know, we're better at hacking than they are.

00:39:32.000 Oh, yeah.

00:39:32.000 We have better hackers.

00:39:33.000 So the whole thing keep talking about with Russians.

00:39:35.000 I don't know, I kept saying Russians.

00:39:36.000 She was like, America's actually has way better people to hack all that shit.

00:39:39.000 But it's an arms race.

00:39:40.000 It's a it's uh it's an AI race.

00:39:42.000 Yeah, the thing is they're all together.

00:39:45.000 It's the government with the corporations in China, they're all in lockstep.

00:39:50.000 They're not like in battle with their corporations.

00:39:52.000 Corporations do what the government says.

00:39:54.000 Exactly.

00:39:55.000 They tried that over here with Facebook, like when Facebook, when they c the FBI clamped down on them, told them to get rid of the the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:40:03.000 They did it.

00:40:03.000 Well, they didn't at Facebook.

00:40:05.000 They kind of limited the reach, but Twitter they completely blocked it.

00:40:08.000 But the other thing that they did was they told them to get rid of factual information about COVID.

00:40:15.000 Factual information.

00:40:16.000 The government was contacting Zuckerberg.

00:40:19.000 Because they didn't want vaccine hesitancy because they wanted to make more money.

00:40:22.000 Gotta get more.

00:40:23.000 Was it money or was it did they believe that the vaccine was saving lives?

00:40:26.000 Money.

00:40:27.000 For sure.

00:40:28.000 Money.

00:40:28.000 Really?

00:40:29.000 Look at you, you you're so cute.

00:40:30.000 They just wanted to save lives.

00:40:33.000 He's still one of those guys.

00:40:34.000 No, Brian's still one of those guys.

00:40:35.000 Brian's still one of those guys.

00:40:37.000 There's a lot of goddamn things the government cares about him, dude.

00:40:39.000 I really am.

00:40:40.000 It's not a goddamn thing the government does for you.

00:40:42.000 Like for you make your life better.

00:40:44.000 Everything they do is to either get elected, raise more money, campaign, like more more money, like raising money for causes.

00:40:51.000 It's their own agenda.

00:40:52.000 You see in the UK now they're like they're like, we're gonna deal we have a we have a solution to deal with mass immigration. 1.00

00:40:57.000 We're going to digital IDs.

00:40:59.000 So it's like they created an issue.

00:41:01.000 Yep.

00:41:01.000 And then they're gonna they're and then they're gonna give you a solution to give them more.

00:41:04.000 That's why when I what you're doing, my thing is how much fucking money does.

00:41:08.000 But what you just said, what you just said about the government, whether it's true or not, that's a very important thing to keep in to believe.

00:41:14.000 I have representative.

00:41:17.000 She was we were talking about certain issues.

00:41:18.000 She goes, they don't want to resolve those issues because they could fundraise against them.

00:41:22.000 Of course.

00:41:22.000 How about so they literally st don't they don't reach resolution?

00:41:27.000 But my question, Joe, is how much money do they need?

00:41:29.000 Like uh they always need new money every week.

00:41:31.000 But my thing is like Pelosi, like how much money is that big heavy bitch out? 1.00

00:41:34.000 She has the biggest it's like a half a billion, half a billion dollars.

00:41:37.000 And she just keeps the four million.

00:41:39.000 Yeah.

00:41:40.000 Well her husband.

00:41:41.000 I mean he's he's he's uh he's uh he's always been an investor, you know.

00:41:45.000 Yeah, but the way he's doing his insider trade.

00:41:49.000 Right, it doesn't mean it's not it doesn't mean it's all in the up and up, obviously.

00:41:52.000 But I'm just saying how how much uh how long does she need to eighty TV? 1.00

00:41:56.000 The answer to that is that government will continue to grow like a Leviathan.

00:41:59.000 And it it it it does what does it do?

00:42:02.000 Well that that's why they want two parties here. 0.86

00:42:04.000 They they they want no no common talking ground between the two parties, so we just keep fighting.

00:42:08.000 Well, that might be good.

00:42:09.000 You want government to to fight each other, right?

00:42:11.000 You want you want this divide and conquer thing so government moves at a glacial pace.

00:42:14.000 That would be the idea.

00:42:15.000 Yeah, but right?

00:42:16.000 But government is the issue.

00:42:17.000 Yeah.

00:42:17.000 Remember when Elon was trying to start the American the American uh wing?

00:42:22.000 Remember that?

00:42:22.000 You started it's like the not democrat.

00:42:25.000 Yeah, third party's never really it's hard.

00:42:27.000 First of all, I don't think you're allowed to name it.

00:42:29.000 I think we looked into that.

00:42:30.000 You're not allowed to name your party, the America Party.

00:42:34.000 That's fair.

00:42:34.000 You can't call it America because then if you go against it, you're going against America.

00:42:38.000 That's fair.

00:42:38.000 That's like the Patriot Pond.

00:42:39.000 Yeah.

00:42:40.000 The genius of the Patriot Act was.

00:42:45.000 I don't know how that's gonna work in effect.

00:42:47.000 Like if he if he starts another party, it's a little bit.

00:42:49.000 Oh, there we go, it's back.

00:42:51.000 Here we go.

00:42:52.000 Uh C's leaving ESPN the ESPN said, Why don't you guys have to do that?

00:42:58.000 Looks like a bruise.

00:42:59.000 Uh he's got something.

00:43:00.000 But could be big toe to the titty.

00:43:03.000 It doesn't look like staff.

00:43:05.000 No.

00:43:06.000 Staff is usually raised.

00:43:07.000 It just looks kind of red.

00:43:08.000 It doesn't really look raised from here, but I can't tell.

00:43:11.000 The worst one ever was Kevin Lee.

00:43:12.000 Remember when Kevin Lee went to the welt.

00:43:15.000 He has like makeup on it.

00:43:16.000 Yeah.

00:43:17.000 Was that when he fought Tony?

00:43:18.000 Was it that fight?

00:43:19.000 That could be anything.

00:43:20.000 That doesn't look raised though.

00:43:21.000 Dude, how about Tony got a win the other night?

00:43:26.000 Uh I heard that staff doesn't come from the mat, it comes from the person you're rolling with.

00:43:30.000 Is this up Jamie?

00:43:31.000 Oh, that is staff.

00:43:33.000 That's all that's a hundred percent stuff.

00:43:35.000 That's not true.

00:43:36.000 See the little whitehead up topics. 0.60

00:43:38.000 But if you're in antibiotics, I think it's twenty four thirty-six hours, you're not contagious anymore.

00:43:42.000 It's just gonna drain your fucking cardio.

00:43:44.000 Damn.

00:43:45.000 How how effective is topical solutions on something like that?

00:43:49.000 So you have to take systemic like anti- So I actually just had staff like a month ago.

00:43:54.000 Of course you did.

00:43:55.000 You've had it a thousand times.

00:43:56.000 Yep.

00:43:56.000 And and I was like, and I actually I use actually use fucking croc to help me cure it without antibiotics.

00:44:01.000 Really?

00:44:01.000 Um so I had it on my back and I put um I put the topical clindamycin pad and there's like liquid clindomycin that you can like just rub on there and then there's a pad.

00:44:12.000 So I I douse the pad and clindomycin, and I taped the clindamycin pad to my back, and then I broke one of those heating pads and I put I taped a heating pad to my back because staff once you start getting above body temperature, it doesn't replicate.

00:44:26.000 Yeah, like it yeah, it it I think it dies like 140 or 150 degrees somewhere around there.

00:44:30.000 Wow sauna.

00:44:31.000 But yeah, the problem is that it you have to that's sustained over time.

00:44:35.000 Like you can't sit in a hundred and fifty degree sauna for twenty four hours.

00:44:37.000 Right, right, right.

00:44:38.000 So I kept the heating pad on there and I would just change it like five, six times a day, change the pad, and it went away in like two weeks.

00:44:44.000 Took a little bit longer, but I didn't have to take any oral hours.

00:44:47.000 How's your stomach?

00:44:47.000 And I'm like, wow, I wish I could I wish I knew this ten years ago before I ruined my fucking life.

00:44:51.000 Fuck.

00:44:51.000 Um it is still I haven't been able to do like a hard session since like early twenty twenty four.

00:44:57.000 Damn.

00:44:57.000 I just start dry heaving every time my heart rate goes up.

00:45:00.000 Fuck.

00:45:00.000 So I'm just like a skinny fat guy now.

00:45:02.000 That's so nice.

00:45:03.000 Jesus Christ, dude.

00:45:04.000 Have you tried fasting?

00:45:06.000 Have you ever tried that?

00:45:07.000 I've been forced fasted.

00:45:08.000 Like I have just haven't been able to eat for two weeks.

00:45:10.000 And like you haven't eaten anything in two weeks or just a little bit.

00:45:13.000 Like just nothing.

00:45:14.000 I just wasn't able to eat.

00:45:15.000 Like just water.

00:45:18.000 Yeah.

00:45:19.000 I was uh like before I fought Roberto Geminez, I was actually had to go to the hospital because I couldn't drink water or eat for two weeks.

00:45:25.000 And I was like in the hospital like three days before.

00:45:26.000 You couldn't drink water.

00:45:27.000 Uh no, just like two nauseas to get anything, keep anything down there.

00:45:31.000 That is so nuts.

00:45:32.000 I just like went to the hospital, got an IV, and then like flew to go.

00:45:35.000 Can beat.

00:45:36.000 Alright, here we go.

00:45:37.000 What do we got here?

00:45:38.000 Sola and McKee.

00:45:39.000 You stand.

00:45:44.000 You gotta get at least one of them a nickname now.

00:45:46.000 I feel like we're Yeah.

00:45:52.000 That guy.

00:45:54.000 Who so McKee is the guy with the tattoos.

00:45:59.000 Yep.

00:46:01.000 Solo's gonna be a big fan favorite.

00:46:06.000 Oh, is he?

00:46:07.000 Yep.

00:46:07.000 They put a bunch of those cats on there.

00:46:09.000 So Paris didn't or France didn't even have MMA till recent really fairly recently, right?

00:46:13.000 Like ten years ago?

00:46:14.000 Yeah.

00:46:16.000 Because when Francis was over there, he was no MMA.

00:46:20.000 Yeah.

00:46:20.000 You couldn't fight.

00:46:21.000 And then finally they got PFL did events in Africa.

00:46:24.000 And he didn't show up.

00:46:28.000 Because he said they didn't use any like regional guys.

00:46:30.000 That's why he wouldn't show up.

00:46:32.000 Yeah.

00:46:32.000 Really?

00:46:32.000 Yeah, he was like, No, you didn't use any of my fucking guys.

00:46:35.000 Wow.

00:46:36.000 I think there's a chance.

00:46:37.000 Oh.

00:46:38.000 Nice shot.

00:46:39.000 I think there's a chance Francis comes back to the UFC now.

00:46:42.000 I don't think there is.

00:46:43.000 Why do you say that?

00:46:44.000 I don't think Dana wants that. 0.57

00:46:45.000 All right.

00:46:45.000 Well, you know, Dana had a bad experience with him.

00:46:48.000 Didn't enjoy working with him.

00:46:50.000 Oh.

00:46:50.000 But but do you don't think there's a chance some of the some of the other shot callers there go, dude, we can get him back?

00:46:56.000 Him versus John.

00:46:57.000 Him versus John.

00:46:58.000 At the White House?

00:46:59.000 Yeah.

00:47:00.000 You think all the White House.

00:47:03.000 John on the White House card?

00:47:04.000 I think John does White House.

00:47:09.000 Tana goes, they go, What's the chance he has?

00:47:12.000 One in a billion.

00:47:12.000 Did he really say that?

00:47:15.000 I saw that.

00:47:15.000 John responded with a great answer.

00:47:17.000 He did have a great answer.

00:47:18.000 You're saying there's a chance.

00:47:19.000 He goes, I'm a one in billion guy.

00:47:22.000 That's exactly what I thought when I said when I saw it and I was like, I was like, oh, since there's a chance to do that, there's a chance.

00:47:26.000 Yeah.

00:47:26.000 This guy's getting caught.

00:47:27.000 Good news is John's most recent case has been dropped.

00:47:31.000 Which is excellent.

00:47:32.000 Yep.

00:47:32.000 He wasn't even there apparently.

00:47:34.000 I don't know.

00:47:37.000 Okay, I only go with what good what my phone says, all right.

00:47:39.000 Oh, I I I think I'm all in I mean I'm always with my phone.

00:47:43.000 Listen, I think there should be a place uh I think there should be a place in this country that has no law.

00:47:49.000 One city, just one city with no law.

00:47:52.000 Just got a Mexico turkey?

00:47:53.000 Just maybe a salvage.

00:47:55.000 Just one place with no law.

00:47:57.000 Just like or maybe like a little gray area in between the state.

00:48:01.000 What about the purge?

00:48:02.000 Just 24 hours where there's one place where you could just get buck wild.

00:48:07.000 Well, you can go down to Tijuana, dude.

00:48:08.000 You can just live like go to Mexico.

00:48:10.000 I mean, but uh Ed Calderon, I was listening to that podcast.

00:48:13.000 Fuck.

00:48:13.000 That's a crazy podcast.

00:48:14.000 That dude has seen it all.

00:48:16.000 I I I can't imagine what he's actually seen.

00:48:17.000 Thirty-seven assassinations in the last Mexican elections.

00:48:21.000 Yeah, but they all dab but the but all but all those politicians, they dabble with the cartel. 0.98

00:48:25.000 So it's not like.

00:48:26.000 Oh no, no, no, no, no.

00:48:27.000 They're not dabbling.

00:48:27.000 They are all cartel members.

00:48:29.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:48:30.000 That's true.

00:48:31.000 Well, do you see it happening in Germany?

00:48:32.000 Yeah, they're all involved.

00:48:32.000 Yeah.

00:48:33.000 But seven, seven of the right wing cabinets had just been had just died.

00:48:37.000 Yeah, and then I looked into it and they were like, there's no foul play here.

00:48:39.000 I'm like, but that's seven.

00:48:40.000 That's a lot.

00:48:41.000 Yeah.

00:48:41.000 No foul pay.

00:48:42.000 But my thing when you had Ed on, A, I'm never going to Mexico again.

00:48:45.000 But B, I mean fucking never fine.

00:48:48.000 Never.

00:48:49.000 Um, but B, too.

00:48:50.000 I sent my wife that 'cause she wants to take the kids to Mexico because she's from there. 1.00

00:48:53.000 It's never fucking happening.

00:48:54.000 Yeah.

00:48:54.000 And I so I sent her that podcast.

00:48:56.000 But um when he was like, yeah, Trump's, you know, they have the drones, like kind of following the cartel and all that to get information on like he's gonna s he they're gonna do something to send people in there.

00:49:08.000 But when he was saying the cartels like in the government and the police units, they're everywhere.

00:49:12.000 It's like, okay, so you're gonna take out the henchmen.

00:49:14.000 That does nothing.

00:49:15.000 Well, Calderon said you so so my my summarization of that podcast was like, oh, well, Mexico's fucked. 0.68

00:49:21.000 There's nothing you can do.

00:49:22.000 You're never gonna get rid of it.

00:49:23.000 It's too ingrained in the community.

00:49:26.000 He treated him like a lot of things.

00:49:28.000 When you go to Afghanistan, like we're so far separated that it's not really like there's no saving it. 1.00

00:49:33.000 like the cartel can come up here and fuck with us.

00:49:37.000 Correct.

00:49:37.000 Well Calderon said the only way to deal with it is treat it like it's an insurgency.

00:49:40.000 And and you know, when they had that conservative guy in charge, uh they actually they actually did a lot to cripple the cartels.

00:49:48.000 But unless you treat it like an actual civil war, where you gotta treat it like this is a real insurgency so much money.

00:49:55.000 They can they buy so many politicians, they buy so many people.

00:49:58.000 It's so difficult to beat them at this point.

00:50:01.000 Because we let it get so bad.

00:50:02.000 Too far.

00:50:02.000 Yeah.

00:50:03.000 Mexico let it get so bad that there's when you have thirty-seven people get assassinated in one election.

00:50:09.000 So hard cycle.

00:50:10.000 How's that not a but how's that not on if CNN wants to break some news?

00:50:12.000 How's that not on the tracker at all?

00:50:14.000 Yeah, you have to hear it from me.

00:50:15.000 You have to hear it on the spot.

00:50:17.000 Did you hear did you hear this this influencer, this TikTok influencer killed her, her husband and her seven year old and thirteen year old wrapped them in plastic and put them in a in a truck.

00:50:25.000 Did you hear about this?

00:50:26.000 No.

00:50:27.000 This is uh a week ago.

00:50:28.000 Yeah, see that's what I'm saying.

00:50:29.000 In Mexico.

00:50:30.000 Yeah, and then the two guys the husband was doing something with that. 1.00

00:50:32.000 Yeah, and and the two guys that that the cops brought in were witnesses to it, they got kidnapped.

00:50:38.000 Jeez, but get out of the prosecutor. 1.00

00:50:39.000 But didn't that say like ninety-one percent of murders go unsolved?

00:50:42.000 Yes, yeah.

00:50:43.000 Everything's just a cold case.

00:50:45.000 I don't know, dude.

00:50:45.000 I think any anyway.

00:50:46.000 If you're the nine percent that gets busted. 0.99

00:50:49.000 You can walk there.

00:50:53.000 You just walk there.

00:50:54.000 You can walk right into chaos.

00:50:55.000 Yeah.

00:50:56.000 You can walk there from here.

00:50:59.000 You can get there in a day.

00:51:00.000 But if you're a tourist, a lot of times they'll leave you alone, right?

00:51:02.000 Five hour drive.

00:51:03.000 Dude, when I when I was living in uh California, I had my Ford Lightning, and there's a shop down there that makes carbon fiber parts for lightnings.

00:51:10.000 I was like, I'll just go pick it up.

00:51:11.000 I drove down there, and the guy working the the custom goes, What are you doing?

00:51:15.000 What are you doing?

00:51:16.000 What do you mean, man?

00:51:16.000 I'm here to pick up some car parts.

00:51:18.000 He goes, Listen, we knew you were coming because you posted you're coming down here.

00:51:21.000 We knew you're coming.

00:51:22.000 And we're good, and we're fans, we're good, we're good guys.

00:51:24.000 But if we know you're coming, the bad guys know you're coming.

00:51:27.000 He's like, Don't come back here, man.

00:51:29.000 I'm like, really?

00:51:30.000 He's like, Don't come back.

00:51:31.000 He's like, You're in a loud orange Ford Lightning, and you're posting you're coming down here.

00:51:37.000 Yeah.

00:51:38.000 Don't do that.

00:51:39.000 Worth it.

00:51:39.000 Was it?

00:51:40.000 Ah, no.

00:51:41.000 I mean it's cool.

00:51:42.000 Yeah.

00:51:42.000 There's carbon fiber offenders are tough to find.

00:51:44.000 Who would run for mayor?

00:51:45.000 Look at that.

00:51:46.000 From 2018 to mid-2024, 1,79 murders, attacks, and threats were reported against politicians and officials.

00:51:54.000 That is crazy.

00:51:56.000 Who's gonna run for fucking police 37?

00:51:59.000 That's yeah, they are some people just see this up here.

00:52:03.000 You'd think at 27 the guy'd be like, fuck this, dude.

00:52:06.000 Well, Calderon said the people are getting so sick of it.

00:52:08.000 I I think ultimately there becomes this.

00:52:10.000 What are they gonna do, B?

00:52:11.000 A revolt.

00:52:12.000 The population arms itself.

00:52:14.000 Good loot.

00:52:15.000 And do what?

00:52:16.000 Get shot.

00:52:17.000 They're so organized though.

00:52:18.000 Yeah, they're they're literally like military weapons.

00:52:20.000 They have military weaponry.

00:52:21.000 And they have night vision.

00:52:23.000 They have armies.

00:52:24.000 I mean That's what I'm saying.

00:52:25.000 What are you gonna do?

00:52:26.000 I don't know.

00:52:26.000 A revolt and do what?

00:52:27.000 Get murdered?

00:52:28.000 I think I think you're gonna see more of that what that happened that Venezuelan boat that just got taken out in the middle of the water.

00:52:34.000 I was seeing people saying that that wasn't a cartel thing and that what Donald Trump has c committed is a war crime.

00:52:42.000 He blew up people from Venezuela for no reason.

00:52:45.000 You don't think they know that this this fucking boat filled with taped up satchels.

00:52:52.000 Yeah.

00:52:52.000 And Maduro, I th I can't believe they that the Justice Department said Maduro where we have a reward for his arrest.

00:52:59.000 Fifty million dollars.

00:53:01.000 That's they put fifty million dollars on the president's head.

00:53:04.000 That's setting something up.

00:53:06.000 They're setting something up.

00:53:07.000 Oh yeah.

00:53:07.000 There must be some gold in them that our hills.

00:53:09.000 I yeah, I got a feeling I got a feeling we got some some pretty some badasses kind of already down there.

00:53:15.000 Well, probably there's probably also some I mean between Mexico and Canada, it's just a shit show.

00:53:21.000 Yeah, but Canada's like so much saver.

00:53:23.000 Yes, Canada, you have your job, you have your reputation destroyed.

00:53:26.000 And in Mexico, they kill your whole family. 1.00

00:53:28.000 It's kind of a different thing.

00:53:29.000 Uh in Canada, one of 20 people in Canada is assisted suicide.

00:53:35.000 What?

00:53:35.000 Yeah, one in twenty.

00:53:37.000 What?

00:53:38.000 Yeah, I'll send I'll send it to Jamie so he can post it.

00:53:41.000 It is uh so crazy.

00:53:43.000 In other news, did you see that uh Roy Jones Jr.?

00:53:47.000 Yes.

00:53:48.000 That was heartwarming.

00:53:49.000 It was so amazing.

00:53:49.000 The the guy they gave him his gold medal.

00:53:51.000 Yeah, because the Korean guy who who got beat.

00:53:55.000 I love that.

00:53:56.000 It was heartwarming.

00:53:57.000 It was really good.

00:53:58.000 I got emotional over it.

00:53:59.000 Yeah, because there it is.

00:54:00.000 Assisted dying now accounts for one in twenty Canada deaths.

00:54:04.000 Like what's how that's how depressed they are.

00:54:06.000 Well, they're doing it for people that are depressed.

00:54:08.000 They're doing it for people, oh, you hurt your knee.

00:54:10.000 Jesus Christ.

00:54:11.000 But I'm not allowed to hike anymore.

00:54:13.000 Okay, they killed 15,300 people last year.

00:54:16.000 What a shit show.

00:54:17.000 What a shit show.

00:54:18.000 It was legalized in 2016, but it showed around 15,300 people underwent assisted dying last year.

00:54:25.000 Median age is seventy-seven though.

00:54:27.000 After being successful in their applications.

00:54:30.000 Yeah.

00:54:31.000 The median age is 77.

00:54:32.000 I kind of get that.

00:54:33.000 Yeah.

00:54:34.000 So you can just do it for any reason.

00:54:35.000 Yeah.

00:54:36.000 Yeah.

00:54:36.000 Small minority of other cases, patients may not have been terminally ill, but sought an assisted death due to long and complicated illness that it significantly impact their quality of life.

00:54:45.000 Well, you really makes you think like what percentage of people are just suffering where life just fucking blows.

00:54:52.000 Probably quite a bit.

00:54:53.000 And and are they doing it in those tanks?

00:54:55.000 They're doing those like weird spaceship things.

00:54:59.000 Have you seen those?

00:55:00.000 They look pretty nice.

00:55:02.000 You could get assisted suicide in Oregon.

00:55:05.000 But how are they putting him down?

00:55:06.000 Do we know?

00:55:06.000 I don't know.

00:55:07.000 Like an IV or is it gas or there's a place in Sweden, I watched a documentary on it.

00:55:12.000 He kind of just jumped in this little like alien ship looking thing and just game over.

00:55:16.000 Cook you're gonna do.

00:55:17.000 He had his last meal with his wife, and I was like, all right, see on the other side and just B, you and I were talking about suicide one time, and I was like, I can't understand how anybody would do it.

00:55:25.000 And a guy who I'd get would come to my shows periodically, and he'd give me like he made knives and stuff.

00:55:31.000 And he he emailed me and he goes, um just so you know, I'll give you an idea of what it's like when you contemplate suicide.

00:55:38.000 I was like, okay, and he goes, You ever if you have you ever been in a Hasana and you can't stand another second you gotta get out because it's just too hot? 0.97

00:55:46.000 Think of being that with no doors all the time.

00:55:50.000 For your whole life.

00:55:50.000 Yeah, and I was like, holy fucking.

00:55:52.000 And did he do it or no?

00:55:53.000 He tried twice, I guess.

00:55:55.000 Now he's better.

00:55:56.000 Well, think about the kind of pain that Bisping must have been in because of his neck.

00:56:00.000 You know?

00:56:01.000 But Bisbing's a guy, but you he didn't even consider it.

00:56:04.000 No, no.

00:56:05.000 There's a difference.

00:56:06.000 No, he's probably trying to line up a fight.

00:56:08.000 Think about Gordon.

00:56:09.000 Think of the shit he deals with.

00:56:10.000 If anyone still winning.

00:56:12.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:56:13.000 Being C sick 24 7.

00:56:15.000 I can't understand how no one can figure out how to fix what's wrong.

00:56:19.000 Well, they I mean the issue is that they know what the issue are, but what the issues is, and they're just like, we're gonna try to reset your gut biome.

00:56:26.000 I'm like, sweet.

00:56:27.000 What's like the like agreed upon baseline homeostasis for like what your gut biome's supposed to be?

00:56:32.000 They're like, we don't know.

00:56:33.000 There is it's different for every person.

00:56:35.000 So it's just eat nothing but kimchi for a year and see what's up.

00:56:38.000 I could do that, yeah.

00:56:39.000 Yeah.

00:56:39.000 Or I could just kill myself.

00:56:43.000 Don't do that.

00:56:44.000 Gut biome.

00:56:45.000 Yeah.

00:56:46.000 That's like a fief ganoon, and he's got that clinic.

00:56:50.000 Because everybody always wondered, like, what happens if you take antibiotics too much?

00:56:53.000 There you go.

00:56:54.000 Well now we know.

00:56:54.000 Yeah.

00:56:55.000 Remember my psoriasis.

00:56:57.000 You remember seeing how covered I was?

00:56:58.000 Mm-hmm.

00:56:59.000 And then Andy Galpin and Dan Garner gave me a big thing.

00:57:01.000 Why are you laughing?

00:57:02.000 You're such a piece of shit.

00:57:05.000 But I can't.

00:57:06.000 I just started laughing.

00:57:08.000 I know.

00:57:10.000 It's like when who is it?

00:57:11.000 Bobby Late was like, I was brutally meleced.

00:57:14.000 Yeah, I just started fucking crying.

00:57:15.000 Died by a down syndrome guy.

00:57:16.000 He starts laughing.

00:57:17.000 That's such a brand new thing.

00:57:18.000 No, because probably Bobby goes, Alright, I'm gonna say this again.

00:57:20.000 If you if you guys laugh, and he goes, Yeah, worse than that.

00:57:28.000 It was brutally molested.

00:57:29.000 I'm like, dude, you don't say brutally, dude.

00:57:32.000 It's like Bobby might have been making that story up.

00:57:34.000 He was, because he was like every time I was laughing, because every time we got worse and worse and worse.

00:57:40.000 Bobby's one of the funniest people ever.

00:57:41.000 He's funny as fuck.

00:57:42.000 He's one of the funniest people ever.

00:57:44.000 Very funny.

00:57:44.000 I miss him.

00:57:45.000 So Santino, man.

00:57:46.000 Well, Bobby not talk to you anymore.

00:57:48.000 No, we tax it.

00:57:50.000 But I missed him.

00:57:51.000 No, no, but I'm not sure.

00:57:53.000 We don't tax like on a regular basis.

00:57:54.000 No, I said we we made up though.

00:57:56.000 Yeah.

00:57:56.000 He had said he told somebody to say hi to me.

00:57:58.000 And then I said, hey, uh, you know, I heard and I said, he goes, How are you?

00:58:01.000 I go, I'm I'm good and eternally sorry.

00:58:04.000 And he goes, We're good.

00:58:05.000 And uh yeah, that's cool.

00:58:06.000 Is he at the mothership?

00:58:08.000 That's a good fight.

00:58:09.000 Lopez, Diego Lopez, DeBron Silva.

00:58:12.000 That's next weekend.

00:58:14.000 Does Bobby come to the mothership much?

00:58:16.000 Uh he's been there.

00:58:17.000 Yeah.

00:58:17.000 I mean, he comes when he's in town.

00:58:19.000 I tried to get him to move here.

00:58:20.000 I'm never moving to Austin.

00:58:24.000 But uh when he was here, he met some nice ladies. 0.82

00:58:27.000 Tim Tim Dylan's take on Austin's hilarious.

00:58:30.000 It's funny.

00:58:30.000 It's so funny.

00:58:31.000 He's like, there's like two good restaurants.

00:58:32.000 I've been to him multiple times.

00:58:34.000 There's no live music scene.

00:58:35.000 Six buskers on heroin.

00:58:39.000 He's here all the time.

00:58:40.000 He was here last week, he's gonna be here again this week.

00:58:42.000 Yeah, he's the best.

00:58:44.000 He owns two houses here.

00:58:45.000 Yeah.

00:58:46.000 He's just nuts.

00:58:46.000 Yeah, he's very funny.

00:58:47.000 He's just being silly.

00:58:48.000 so funny.

00:58:49.000 And then they write articles on it.

00:58:50.000 His take.

00:58:51.000 It's really funny is that that it became like a whole thing, like the the movements leaving Austin.

00:58:55.000 They this the shine has worn off.

00:58:58.000 It quoted me, Shane Gillis, and uh and Tim Dylan saying how much we hated Austin.

00:59:03.000 I just said I miss the baseball dads in LA.

00:59:05.000 That's all I said, man.

00:59:06.000 That's hilarious.

00:59:07.000 I love it here.

00:59:08.000 Yeah.

00:59:09.000 I I used to miss the comedy store until I opened the mothership.

00:59:12.000 That was all I missed.

00:59:13.000 I love everything else about Austin.

00:59:15.000 I have no problem, sir.

00:59:17.000 I'd like them to clean up some of that homeless shit, though.

00:59:20.000 Compared to LA.

00:59:21.000 Yeah, that's pretty bad on six.

00:59:23.000 Where is first of all, what are you doing on six?

00:59:26.000 Other than go to the club and get out of the club.

00:59:27.000 I do.

00:59:28.000 Yeah.

00:59:28.000 Don't I go to dead rabbit?

00:59:30.000 I'll go to the dead rabbit sometimes.

00:59:31.000 That's the problem, right?

00:59:33.000 Which is so nuts.

00:59:34.000 You get some people that are homeless, right?

00:59:36.000 Trying to get clean, and where do you put their shelter?

00:59:39.000 A block away from the biggest party fucking street in all of Texas.

00:59:42.000 I know.

00:59:43.000 It's so dumb.

00:59:44.000 I'll be honest, I've I haven't seen because I'm not I haven't been down to six at all.

00:59:47.000 I haven't seen a single homeless person in the city.

00:59:50.000 Well, this very concentrated centrally located.

00:59:53.000 Yeah, it's all six street and I'm in like I'm like a weird bubble where it's like Pleasantville.

00:59:59.000 It's just there's no danger, and I don't like it.

01:00:01.000 Look at this, look at this, look at this.

01:00:03.000 This is a matter of time.

01:00:04.000 That's it.

01:00:05.000 Herb Dean, seen enough.

01:00:07.000 Yeah, that guy, that guy was just he was just happy.

01:00:10.000 I th I I feel like this can't even be real, but it it it might be.

01:00:13.000 Did you see they just uh opened a uh sixty-five million dollar transgender homeless shelter in New York?

01:00:19.000 What does that mean?

01:00:21.000 How many homeless fantastic?

01:00:22.000 How many homeless people are transgender?

01:00:24.000 I saw, I saw it.

01:00:25.000 Uh we could think it fact.

01:00:26.000 There's three people in there.

01:00:27.000 But well, Mom Donnie is saying that he wants to set it up where people can go there and get snipped for free.

01:00:32.000 Yeah, I know.

01:00:32.000 He's gonna win, huh?

01:00:34.000 Hopefully.

01:00:34.000 Yeah, to watch to watch in New York try to experiment with a socialist again.

01:00:40.000 I heard an interesting, I heard an interesting take yesterday.

01:00:43.000 Where apparently a lot of the rather than a lot of the super rich people in New York actually want them to win, so they're like, Yeah, go ahead, fucking we're not gonna be affected.

01:00:52.000 Yeah, you guys fucking see how it goes.

01:00:58.000 Progressive political theater.

01:01:00.000 That is adorable.

01:01:01.000 There you go.

01:01:02.000 150 beds for trans and gender non-conforming individuals, nowhere to sleep. 1.00

01:01:06.000 Those are expensive beds.

01:01:08.000 Wow.

01:01:08.000 That is really wild.

01:01:10.000 Nations first.

01:01:11.000 What is gender nonconforming? 1.00

01:01:13.000 Do you get to choose if you're gender non-conforming?

01:01:15.000 What if I just decide I'm gender non-conforming?

01:01:17.000 I think all I have to do is just say it.

01:01:18.000 Yeah, you can't just say I'm gender non-conforming.

01:01:21.000 The okay.

01:01:22.000 Well, that's what's new about that transgender movement.

01:01:24.000 It's rooted in what?

01:01:24.000 A feeling.

01:01:25.000 It's not really so you can be a minority and a minority on the same level or even bigger than a black man, ask Dave Chappelle, because you feel like one. 0.99

01:01:33.000 You know what's weird though.

01:01:34.000 Have your your daughters are older.

01:01:36.000 Have your kids asked you like when that transgender shooter, the just uh was that last week?

01:01:40.000 The mass shooter.

01:01:42.000 Yeah, I'm saying this last one it was all over the news.

01:01:44.000 We had the news on when my kids asked me about it.

01:01:47.000 Because kids kind of have a uh better understanding.

01:01:51.000 Meaning what I mean it's very black and white.

01:01:53.000 Where they're like, wait, Dad, he's uh or she's a girl. 0.98

01:01:56.000 I go, no, that's a guy.

01:01:58.000 Right.

01:01:58.000 He's like, but she thought she was a girl.

01:02:02.000 I'm like, she felt like it, but she's a man.

01:02:04.000 He's like, oh, that makes sense.

01:02:05.000 There's no kids.

01:02:07.000 In the manifesto, this guy said that he regrets going trans and he doesn't want to chop his hair off, even though he hates his hair.

01:02:15.000 He doesn't want to chop it off because he'd be like giving in to all the people that said he wasn't really a woman in the first place, but he regrets ever doing it in the first place.

01:02:23.000 Here's my here's my take on it.

01:02:24.000 It's not about transgender people being more violent, it has nothing to do with that.

01:02:28.000 There are people that are completely out of their minds.

01:02:32.000 And one of the manifestations of that is to decide that you're a different gender. 0.75

01:02:36.000 Gender just right. 0.71

01:02:37.000 So what happens is, but now when you stigmatize that, when you say you're not even allowed to talk to somebody about it, maybe they might be a little confused because that's considered conversion therapy.

01:02:48.000 What happens is you're now lumping those two things in.

01:02:50.000 Wait, what do you mean?

01:02:52.000 So in other words, this kid was obviously...

01:02:54.000 No one is not allowed to talk to someone about being confused about their gender.

01:02:57.000 They're saying you don't have to tell your parents.

01:03:00.000 No.

01:03:00.000 So there are there are there there was in California there was legislation presented in a number of states which said when a child says I feel like a girl, but I'm a boy, and a psychiatrist decide tries to treat that as an abnormality or a mental illness or a confusion.

01:03:19.000 You're saying you can't question it.

01:03:21.000 You can lose your license.

01:03:22.000 Yes, you can lose your license.

01:03:23.000 Why?

01:03:24.000 Because Miriam Grossman, I had her on... 1.00

01:03:26.000 She wrote transnation, I think.

01:03:28.000 And and that can be considered um malpractice and you can get sued and lose your yeah.

01:03:33.000 So then the real problem is the psychiatric drugs, because they're all right.

01:03:38.000 There you go.

01:03:38.000 And what I'm saying is that if you might have a kid who's profoundly disturbed in a in a in a number of ways.

01:03:44.000 One of the manifestations of that is saying, I'm now a girl.

01:03:47.000 Right or whatever it is.

01:03:50.000 That should be a signal, maybe, many times that your kid is not well.

01:03:55.000 And you and let's take a look at what the fuck is going on.

01:03:58.000 Yes.

01:03:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:03:59.000 Yeah.

01:04:00.000 But if you say that, then you're anti-transhill.

01:04:02.000 Of course, that's what I that's what goes back to what I'm saying.

01:04:04.000 And how many mass shooters have we had?

01:04:06.000 Clearly, there's a fucking issue, man.

01:04:08.000 Right.

01:04:09.000 There's an issue.

01:04:09.000 Right.

01:04:10.000 Doesn't mean all trans people are bad, but these mass shooters that we gotta figure it out.

01:04:14.000 Can't keep going down this road.

01:04:16.000 I'm getting in touch with my feminines. 0.96

01:04:17.000 I'd say we just keep going down this road.

01:04:20.000 We don't have a choice.

01:04:21.000 As long as we disarm them all.

01:04:26.000 This is what they're gonna do.

01:04:27.000 I can't wait to disarm them.

01:04:28.000 I can't wait to see the left defend gun club.

01:04:31.000 Yeah.

01:04:32.000 I'm gonna open up a transgender gun club in Austin.

01:04:35.000 Well, fuck it.

01:04:36.000 Let's go.

01:04:37.000 The left will never oppose me.

01:04:39.000 If I just like I say, well, I'm gonna open up a gun club only for transgender and non-binary conforming people, whatever. 0.99

01:04:45.000 It's good.

01:04:46.000 Gender non-conformity.

01:04:47.000 Have you tried to have any of the really far left professors on your podcast?

01:04:52.000 No.

01:04:52.000 I've had them in the past.

01:04:53.000 Have you?

01:04:54.000 Yeah.

01:04:55.000 How's that go?

01:04:56.000 Not so good.

01:04:56.000 No.

01:04:57.000 Yeah.

01:04:59.000 Thaddeus Russell, I had a very long and stupid conversation with him about the difference between men and women.

01:05:06.000 There's no difference.

01:05:07.000 And I'm like, so if you get a boy puppy, if you get a puppy and it's a boy puppy and you wanted a girl puppy, and they say, Well, there's no difference.

01:05:14.000 Yeah.

01:05:14.000 What the fuck are you talking about?

01:05:15.000 Like this is the dumbest conversation ever.

01:05:18.000 But at least Thaddeus is a guy who'll have the debate.

01:05:20.000 Most of the left won't even talk about that.

01:05:22.000 Yeah, but it's not a good one.

01:05:25.000 It's nonsense.

01:05:26.000 You talk in circles.

01:05:27.000 Yeah.

01:05:27.000 Like I thought we were on the same page.

01:05:28.000 I was like, no.

01:05:29.000 Way off.

01:05:30.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:05:31.000 You're saying nonsense.

01:05:32.000 And does he have kids?

01:05:33.000 I don't think he does.

01:05:34.000 I'm not sure.

01:05:35.000 I shouldn't say that.

01:05:36.000 I have no idea.

01:05:37.000 But the the bottom line is biology is really simple.

01:05:40.000 Double X, XY. 0.97

01:05:42.000 Sometimes there's a mistake.

01:05:44.000 Sometimes there's an error and you get X XY.

01:05:46.000 Sometimes you get hermaphrodites and and there's that that is a real thing.

01:05:51.000 There's over.

01:05:52.000 But it's super fucking rare.

01:05:53.000 Yes.

01:05:54.000 What this is is a social contagion.

01:05:56.000 And Abigail Schreier wrote a fantastic book about it called Irreversible Damage that she highlights how they're happening in these clusters of a lot of girls who are autistic.

01:06:06.000 Yes.

01:06:07.000 And let's get to the bottom.

01:06:08.000 It's like anorexic.

01:06:09.000 What's causing all that?

01:06:10.000 How come one in every 12 kids who's a boy in California has autism now?

01:06:15.000 Because that's what's going on.

01:06:16.000 That's what's going on in California, which has one of the strictest fucking vaccine policies. 0.83

01:06:21.000 One in twelve.

01:06:22.000 Did I say vaccines cause autism?

01:06:24.000 Maybe I will have a job.

01:06:25.000 Well, RFK is getting to that, yeah.

01:06:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:06:27.000 And now Florida doesn't demand vaccines for kids.

01:06:31.000 That's dangerous to me.

01:06:32.000 I knew you'd jump on that drink.

01:06:33.000 Of course it's dangerous, Brian.

01:06:34.000 What are you talking about?

01:06:35.000 All vaccines.

01:06:39.000 You need to bail on the tetanus thing.

01:06:41.000 Because Suzanne Humphreys as Suzanne Humphreys explained tetanus.

01:06:46.000 What are you talking about?

01:06:47.000 So you're saying we should be able to do that.

01:06:48.000 She's a medical doctor that absolutely understands tetan.

01:06:50.000 She said tetanus, all you have to do is keep the wound open and clean it.

01:06:53.000 Oh, that's a good thing.

01:06:54.000 It's not bullshit.

01:06:55.000 It's not bullshit.

01:06:56.000 Do you know what people die of tetanus every year?

01:06:58.000 What about possibly?

01:06:59.000 So let me ask you a question, Mr. Joe Rogan, Mr. Science.

01:07:01.000 I say, are you saying don't do that?

01:07:03.000 Don't call me Mr. Scientist.

01:07:04.000 I'll start mocking you, and it's so much easier to do.

01:07:06.000 So are we are we not so you don't believe in vaccines?

01:07:08.000 You don't think we should have vaccines?

01:07:09.000 It's not that I don't believe in vaccines.

01:07:15.000 Different subject.

01:07:16.000 I don't know.

01:07:17.000 MMA vi vaccine is absolutely connected to a host of serious, debilitating fucking problems that kids have gotten from them.

01:07:24.000 There's a lot of problems because they don't test vaccines in a double-blind placebo controlled setting.

01:07:29.000 They test them against other vaccines.

01:07:31.000 You know that, right?

01:07:32.000 Yes, I do.

01:07:32.000 Excuse me.

01:07:33.000 Let me just say something.

01:07:34.000 Yes, you're right.

01:07:35.000 You can make the argument for HEP B. Here's why.

01:07:38.000 Because the chances of a of a child coming in contact with the kind of activity that causes HEP B is different.

01:07:44.000 So that's the same thing.

01:07:46.000 So now you say this.

01:07:47.000 You say this.

01:07:48.000 That chance is zero.

01:07:49.000 The chance for vaccine injury with the HEP V B is not zero.

01:07:53.000 It's non-zero.

01:07:53.000 Okay, so I understand that math.

01:07:55.000 Okay.

01:07:55.000 What I'm trying to say to you is that there are certain diseases.

01:07:58.000 Pick up a history book.

01:07:59.000 Smallpox.

01:08:00.000 Diphtheria.

01:08:01.000 Mumps.

01:08:02.000 Have you ever looked at Tetanus polio paralytic disease?

01:08:06.000 Have you ever polio?

01:08:07.000 Please stop.

01:08:08.000 No, I don't.

01:08:08.000 I won't.

01:08:09.000 I know you think it's just I dreadful.

01:08:12.000 This is a long conversation that we're not going to have on this podcast because I'm going to get angry because I've I've researched this for years.

01:08:17.000 Right.

01:08:19.000 But you're not a scientist.

01:08:20.000 I don't have to be a scientist to know this.

01:08:22.000 Yes, you do.

01:08:22.000 No, Brian, shut the fuck up.

01:08:24.000 I don't have to be a scientist to leave read research to understand that they were spraying DDT all over the fucking country when everybody was getting polio.

01:08:32.000 Do you know that?

01:08:34.000 You know the first essence.

01:08:36.000 They happened in rural communities where they're all farmland and agriculture, and then cows were getting them and horses were getting them and dogs are getting them.

01:08:42.000 Let me make a statement.

01:08:43.000 They're calling it paralytic polio.

01:08:45.000 Do you agree with the following statement?

01:08:47.000 It's not just with you, but it's not just about it.

01:08:52.000 Joe.

01:08:52.000 No, Brian, I don't want to do this with the bigger.

01:08:53.000 But it's not just about a fight companion.

01:08:56.000 It's annoying.

01:08:56.000 All right.

01:08:57.000 But it's like a big thing.

01:09:01.000 So anti-vax.

01:09:02.000 No, let's anti-vax bonds.

01:09:04.000 Anti-vaxx.

01:09:05.000 Questioning why there's so many, though.

01:09:07.000 My kids are all vaccinated.

01:09:08.000 And they're vaccinated, but they went on a delayed schedule.

01:09:11.000 They did a schedule.

01:09:12.000 So did mine.

01:09:13.000 So did mine.

01:09:13.000 You're not?

01:09:14.000 No.

01:09:15.000 Yeah.

01:09:15.000 Good for you.

01:09:16.000 I don't think you need to.

01:09:17.000 No, they're healthy as fuck.

01:09:18.000 Yeah.

01:09:19.000 Between the two of them, they have 12 touchdowns this week.

01:09:23.000 Two home runs.

01:09:25.000 I think the problem is that the pharmaceutical drug companies have an exemption because of what they did in the 1980s with Reagan, where they allowed them to never worry about being sued.

01:09:36.000 And that's when they ramped up the fucking schedule.

01:09:38.000 And that's also the correlation.

01:09:40.000 When you look at all the fucking host of all sorts of diseases and issues you just want to do that.

01:09:44.000 Just look at autism.

01:09:45.000 It's through the city.

01:09:45.000 Autism is just one.

01:09:47.000 There's a lot of other autoimmune issues.

01:09:48.000 There's a lot of there's a lot of like serious problems.

01:09:51.000 I think there are three things that have pushed our us beyond our biology and the reason we don't have a lot of children dying.

01:09:56.000 In uh nutrition, sanitation, and vaccines.

01:09:59.000 And I think anybody who says otherwise is you know, I think it's crazy.

01:10:03.000 But you can't say all vaccines be.

01:10:04.000 I didn't say all vaccines.

01:10:05.000 But he's not saying very worried when people say all vaccines.

01:10:09.000 It sounds like he is.

01:10:11.000 Brian, you don't know what the fuck I'm saying.

01:10:13.000 You don't.

01:10:14.000 Well, I know because you're you don't want to talk about it.

01:10:17.000 Brad, I don't want to talk about it in the middle of a podcast because it'll completely derail the podcast.

01:10:20.000 And I'll start showing you statistics.

01:10:22.000 If you look at when people stopped getting all of these diseases, and then when the introduction of vaccines happened, it's at the end, after the disease has already gone through the population.

01:10:32.000 Most of those diseases were eradicated by sanitation and nutrition.

01:10:37.000 There was a huge problem in this country.

01:10:39.000 People were living in fucking squalor.

01:10:41.000 I agree.

01:10:41.000 But there's still pathogens that are very dangerous.

01:10:44.000 Sure, there are.

01:10:44.000 So the problem is that these pharmaceutical drug companies are fucking insanely entirely corrupt.

01:10:51.000 They have been corrupt for a long fucking time, and there's a revolving door between the FDA and these pharmaceutical drug corporations.

01:10:58.000 They go from the FDA into these positions where they have this golden parachute, and then they ramp up the fucking schedule every year, and it's not about public health.

01:11:07.000 None of it is about looking out for you.

01:11:08.000 All of it is about making money.

01:11:10.000 That's the problem.

01:11:12.000 Who wants to do some smelling salt? 1.00

01:11:13.000 Okai's good.

01:11:15.000 Who wants to do some smell insult? 1.00

01:11:16.000 Chuck one over here, Jamie.

01:11:17.000 We got some?

01:11:19.000 Where's Oki from? 0.99

01:11:20.000 From your mother's pussy. 1.00

01:11:23.000 Hey, that's outline.

01:11:25.000 Hey, that fucking that burn is too far.

01:11:29.000 Joe and I always have these arguments, Gordon.

01:11:33.000 Yes.

01:11:35.000 This one's weak.

01:11:36.000 Is it?

01:11:37.000 Yeah.

01:11:37.000 It's a little old.

01:11:38.000 Oof.

01:11:40.000 It's a little old.

01:11:41.000 Get you going, though.

01:11:42.000 What are they like?

01:11:43.000 We got a seven of them over here.

01:11:46.000 God, get you some, Brian.

01:11:47.000 Get that big fucking dicknose. 1.00

01:11:50.000 Besides to watch your friends suffer.

01:11:51.000 What are the actual I don't know, let's find out.

01:11:53.000 Pop one of those, see if it cures your tummy.

01:11:55.000 It wakes you up.

01:11:56.000 It might help your stomach.

01:11:57.000 Or it could make me nauseous.

01:11:58.000 I'll say.

01:11:59.000 Yeah, if he fucking projectile bottoms on the Buddha.

01:12:03.000 Great.

01:12:03.000 Don't do it, Paul Gordon.

01:12:04.000 You might throw up.

01:12:05.000 That's good for you.

01:12:06.000 This one's basically dead.

01:12:07.000 What is it actually supposed to do, though?

01:12:09.000 It just jolts your system and like.

01:12:13.000 He's got like a kid around every place I go.

01:12:15.000 He goes to the green room, he's got like 30 bottles.

01:12:18.000 I love him.

01:12:18.000 I get everybody addicted to the green room.

01:12:20.000 Once you gave me it, I was like, I want more of that shit.

01:12:23.000 Once I do it once, I want to do it, I want to keep doing it.

01:12:26.000 Yeah, it'll wake you up.

01:12:27.000 Guys are doing it before they lift super heavy.

01:12:29.000 Go for it.

01:12:29.000 I know that.

01:12:30.000 PRs.

01:12:30.000 I need spikes right now.

01:12:32.000 Just a party.

01:12:33.000 Hey, just to get away from the vaccines before he's broken.

01:12:38.000 I brought it up.

01:12:39.000 Oh, something you right after right after he sniffed it.

01:12:42.000 Brian was gonna bring vaccines back up.

01:12:47.000 Don't join him on a dude.

01:12:48.000 Joe and I used to have arguments about acting class.

01:12:51.000 We'd get in shouting fights.

01:12:52.000 He used to tell me that vitamins weren't necessary.

01:12:54.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

01:12:55.000 Vitamins aren't necessary.

01:12:57.000 He's taking fucking vitamins.

01:12:58.000 I think it's not work.

01:12:59.000 They don't do anything.

01:13:01.000 This is me and him at a fucking restaurant in Seattle.

01:13:03.000 Brian, please shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:13:04.000 Yeah, but then I started taking vitamins and I called him up and I go, dude, I feel great.

01:13:08.000 He goes, fucking I know.

01:13:09.000 I wish you could go back in time and not take vaccines.

01:13:11.000 Because why am I so healthy?

01:13:12.000 I never got a psoriasis.

01:13:14.000 This is crazy.

01:13:14.000 Hey, shut up.

01:13:15.000 Turns out I had autism the whole time.

01:13:17.000 No.

01:13:17.000 Dude, we've been in Austin for how many months now I've been trying to give him a ways to whale for how long finally filled.

01:13:22.000 I got my levels passed in.

01:13:25.000 The best.

01:13:26.000 So I just got my levels test by with Brigham.

01:13:28.000 It was awesome.

01:13:28.000 And I got stem cells.

01:13:29.000 Nice.

01:13:30.000 So check this out.

01:13:31.000 I got I go, I I'd worked out at uh Arctype.

01:13:34.000 This is Marvin Vittori's brother.

01:13:36.000 Is it?

01:13:36.000 They look very similar.

01:13:38.000 I worked out.

01:13:39.000 I meant to call you about this.

01:13:40.000 So I I work out and I kind of forgot I had to go.

01:13:43.000 So I I probably shouldn't have worked out.

01:13:45.000 Didn't sleep much, but my test is is lowest it's ever been, which is 785, not bad for my good.

01:13:50.000 Not bad, right?

01:13:51.000 That's very good.

01:13:52.000 Now my free though is low.

01:13:54.000 It's like 45.

01:13:56.000 And she said it should be 151.

01:13:57.000 But then I did a bunch of research on chat GPT with PubMed, and I looked at I talked to a couple of other doctors, and they said, if your test is that high, because I have a lot of energy, they go, just be careful because you gotta test it again.

01:14:09.000 So she at Waste Well, they go, We don't want to put you on anything yet, because we want to test because your your magnesium is a little low and your DHEA or whatever it is.

01:14:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:17.000 So they're gonna put me on that because they're my test is really high.

01:14:20.000 Yeah, just take TRT again.

01:14:22.000 Oh, hold on.

01:14:23.000 No, no, no, he's right.

01:14:24.000 Yeah, magnesium is huge.

01:14:26.000 You have low magnesium, that's huge.

01:14:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:28.000 And I talked about the Mike Isratel, who who gave me the, he told me, I said, if I wanted to get huge, give me the steroids.

01:14:34.000 Not possible.

01:14:35.000 And he goes, Do you want do you know you don't mind if your liver becomes styrofoam?

01:14:38.000 I go, just fucking hit me with it.

01:14:39.000 He gave me the stack.

01:14:40.000 I saw that coming.

01:14:41.000 Oh, dude, it's great.

01:14:42.000 Yeah, he's a freak.

01:14:43.000 He's amazing.

01:14:43.000 What is he talking about?

01:14:44.000 DECA and all that stuff.

01:14:45.000 He's got his PhD.

01:14:46.000 He's telling you to take DECA and everything.

01:14:47.000 Well, and also he's on everything.

01:14:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:14:49.000 Have you had him on?

01:14:50.000 He's hilarious.

01:14:51.000 Oh, I love that guy.

01:14:53.000 Here we go.

01:14:54.000 Uh shit.

01:14:56.000 I think the comment events next.

01:14:57.000 Okie and Jones.

01:14:58.000 Is the come next?

01:14:59.000 Yep.

01:15:00.000 Nice.

01:15:01.000 Nice.

01:15:01.000 That's the one I'm looking for.

01:15:02.000 Me too.

01:15:03.000 Roofy and Benwala.

01:15:05.000 If you had the gun to your head, who do you have?

01:15:07.000 Emma Vov or um Bahalo. 0.61

01:15:09.000 Imavic. 0.93

01:15:10.000 It's uh this is Bahalio's toughest fight, I think.

01:15:13.000 In the UFC.

01:15:14.000 Imovat's has a better strength of schedule too.

01:15:16.000 I usually go by that.

01:15:17.000 Yeah.

01:15:17.000 Yeah, he's definitely faced a tougher competition.

01:15:20.000 He's coming off of a KO of one of the all-time greats.

01:15:22.000 I don't think either one gets a few.

01:15:24.000 Oh, he just fucking popped it up.

01:15:26.000 Oh damn.

01:15:27.000 Oh, please end fast.

01:15:29.000 I don't think uh he's getting dinged.

01:15:36.000 He's getting dinged.

01:15:36.000 Tough though.

01:15:37.000 There we go.

01:15:38.000 Well, he's moving.

01:15:39.000 He's definitely moving, but he keeps getting popped on the chin.

01:15:42.000 I don't think the winner of Imavov in this um fight, uh Hamsat.

01:15:47.000 No.

01:15:47.000 I think the winner of Fluffy and RDR fight.

01:15:50.000 Because that I think that's more like you end in a finish.

01:15:52.000 They didn't get going these guys.

01:15:54.000 He's got a fucking chin, I'll tell you that.

01:15:56.000 Because this dude gets keeps getting cracked.

01:15:58.000 And Oki can crack yikes. 1.00

01:16:01.000 And he's throwing haymakers at him.

01:16:04.000 Yeah.

01:16:04.000 I think um looking like a young Kevin Randall, man.

01:16:07.000 Bahalo's um his his defense is really good striking wise.

01:16:11.000 Well, he's really good all around.

01:16:12.000 That team, that fighting nerds team is so crushing it. 0.94

01:16:15.000 Are they so good?

01:16:17.000 Yeah.

01:16:17.000 They're so good.

01:16:18.000 Where are they out of?

01:16:19.000 Brazil.

01:16:20.000 Yeah.

01:16:20.000 Yeah, there that's uh Jean Silva, that's Carlos Pratez, Mauricio Rufi, Baralio.

01:16:28.000 Now Mikhail Oleg Sejuk, he's over there with them now.

01:16:31.000 Wow.

01:16:31.000 Came over from Poland.

01:16:32.000 He's like, fuck it, let's go.

01:16:34.000 I feel like those poles and stuff, those Russians have such good fundamentals in defense. 1.00

01:16:40.000 Yeah.

01:16:41.000 Like when when Jan Bohovich used to fucking go shin to shin with people.

01:16:47.000 Yeah, Magamanoff was just fucking limping all over the place.

01:16:50.000 Like, what the fuck are you doing?

01:16:52.000 Just going shin to shin with him.

01:16:53.000 Crack.

01:16:54.000 He's such a dense dude.

01:16:56.000 My shins are like fucking touch him.

01:16:59.000 You flip him on the back.

01:17:00.000 It's vaccines.

01:17:00.000 It's all those right.

01:17:02.000 I got bird bones.

01:17:03.000 I would have been a great fighter if I didn't have bird bones.

01:17:05.000 See, I'd like to see DDP at light heavy.

01:17:08.000 Really?

01:17:09.000 Yeah.

01:17:09.000 I think you'd fuck some dudes up.

01:17:11.000 Don't you think they would out wrestle him there?

01:17:13.000 The problem with that guy is now after what Hamzad did to him, everyone's going to out wrestle him.

01:17:17.000 The word's out.

01:17:18.000 If you give him the right matchups, then when if he got the ink line, the thing is though, most guys are not at Hamzat's level.

01:17:24.000 Most people aren't as good at at keeping at riding.

01:17:27.000 Oh my gosh.

01:17:29.000 It's turned around.

01:17:30.000 Look at this.

01:17:30.000 Oh boy, it's no, he doesn't have it under.

01:17:33.000 Um he's laying down.

01:17:35.000 I'll tell you what, too.

01:17:35.000 I was in the back.

01:17:36.000 Look at this.

01:17:37.000 This guy's got tired.

01:17:37.000 I mean, you gotta think of how much energy he blew.

01:17:40.000 Pretty good at riding chest to chest, and he's much better than most and pretty much everyone at riding chest to back.

01:17:45.000 Dude, I went to Hamzat's camp, and I didn't want to be biased.

01:17:48.000 I called Joe when I left.

01:17:49.000 I went, dude, I've never seen anyone look like that.

01:17:52.000 And I was like, I've been out of the game a little bit.

01:17:55.000 Last person I saw that dominant in camp was John.

01:17:58.000 Dude.

01:17:59.000 I'm talking national champion wrestlers, all American wrestlers, world-class jujutsu guys.

01:18:04.000 He was fucking them up.

01:18:06.000 And was kind of going light, and then the coach yelled something and whatever chest chain, and he just fucking mopped the floor with everybody.

01:18:13.000 Back to back to back.

01:18:15.000 Do you think that Bo Nickel has taken a little uh page from that that whole game, which is I'm gonna just blast W or grab.

01:18:23.000 We're gonna find out.

01:18:23.000 They just announced the bigger.

01:18:24.000 Yeah, but what do you do with Renee? 1.00

01:18:26.000 It's different, though.

01:18:26.000 Yeah, when he fought Reiner DeRitter, first of all, what do you do?

01:18:29.000 You're gonna get him to the ground, and then what happens?

01:18:32.000 You're gonna get strangled.

01:18:33.000 Like the Ritter's way better on with Jiu-Jitsu.

01:18:36.000 Way better with Jiu Jitsu.

01:18:37.000 And what if he reverses you and gets you on your back?

01:18:40.000 Yeah.

01:18:40.000 You know, like so he didn't want that.

01:18:42.000 Also, Deritter is way.

01:18:43.000 So that's why he didn't.

01:18:44.000 Deritter's 6'4, and he's a giant 185.

01:18:47.000 Giant.

01:18:47.000 He's big.

01:18:48.000 Bo Nickel can fight one tomorrow.

01:18:50.000 Oh! 0.60

01:18:50.000 Oh my god. 0.60

01:18:53.000 Oh, wow.

01:18:55.000 Oh, wow.

01:18:56.000 He let it go.

01:18:57.000 Damn.

01:18:57.000 These guys are exhausted.

01:18:58.000 This was a crazy first round.

01:19:00.000 Yeah, it was.

01:19:02.000 But now that this guy weathered the storm, what a fucking chin, Jones.

01:19:05.000 Dude.

01:19:06.000 What a chin.

01:19:06.000 Because this dude takes some bombs.

01:19:08.000 Other dudes.

01:19:08.000 He's gonna be gassed.

01:19:10.000 Is everybody gonna move into a crucifix now, too, after that fucking DDP fight?

01:19:14.000 How many times did he get him in a crucifix?

01:19:16.000 Last time you saw that was I think it's like a full five minutes he had him control.

01:19:20.000 Bananas.

01:19:20.000 But wasn't doing too much damage there.

01:19:22.000 No, but I thought I still think it's a mistake where people are like, oh, the Hamzat's style's boring.

01:19:26.000 It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:19:27.000 That's how he fought DDP.

01:19:29.000 These next guys, like, he's a finisher, man.

01:19:31.000 He's a fucking savage.

01:19:32.000 Yeah.

01:19:33.000 Well, he wanted to win.

01:19:34.000 Right.

01:19:34.000 He's got a Kimora.

01:19:36.000 But also, but I'm to your point, Joe.

01:19:37.000 He wanted to win.

01:19:38.000 It's also his first time.

01:19:39.000 And I know it's Hamzad, and he's this big, there's all this hype.

01:19:42.000 Remember, it's his first chance at a title.

01:19:44.000 You're fighting DDP.

01:19:46.000 You don't want to risk it on your feet.

01:19:48.000 But he even went in the corner with Shrookin was in his corner. 0.99

01:19:51.000 He goes, I want to stand.

01:19:52.000 Srugan goes, absolutely not.

01:19:53.000 Keep doing what you're doing.

01:19:55.000 We have it in the back.

01:19:56.000 Fuck yeah.

01:19:56.000 He's like, keep doing what you're doing.

01:19:57.000 I let the box, I want the king.

01:19:59.000 He also, he also learned a valuable lesson because if you look at his fights in the past, like the big the big question was was cardio.

01:20:07.000 Was will will he will he fade in the fourth and fifth?

01:20:10.000 Whereas D D P just never. 1.00

01:20:11.000 See, I don't think that got answered.

01:20:13.000 Because if I if you did a UFC fight and you were just on top the whole time doing jujitsu, I don't find out much about that because that that's what you do.

01:20:20.000 But he learned an important lesson from it that if if you can ride the guy and make him carry body weight for the full amount, full time of the match, doesn't matter how good the cardio is.

01:20:30.000 There's such a discrepancy in work rate that even if his even if his VOT max is much higher than yours, he's gonna get fast tired significantly fast.

01:20:37.000 So he he learned a tactical uh lesson where he just basically just recreated what Khabib does.

01:20:43.000 Yeah, like with Gilbert, he was just striking the whole time, and you saw he started to get it.

01:20:47.000 But also, Gilbert has a guard.

01:20:48.000 Yeah, Gilbert has a very dangerous guard, and I think that was part of the problem.

01:20:51.000 And he was compromised at 170, I think.

01:20:54.000 He's so big.

01:20:55.000 How he got to 70, I'm like, what?

01:20:56.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

01:20:57.000 Compromised at 170.

01:20:59.000 That weight cut was brutal.

01:21:00.000 He's a legit 6'2, isn't he?

01:21:01.000 He's big And he's strong as shit, man.

01:21:04.000 Which is really crazy that he got himself to 170 and still maintain any strength.

01:21:09.000 That wrestling strength.

01:21:11.000 Christ.

01:21:12.000 Yeah, I don't know who's gonna beat him at 85.

01:21:14.000 Bro, Oki is tie erred. 0.99

01:21:19.000 Well, Chelsea famously said that once.

01:21:21.000 If you go for a finish and you do not get it, you won't win a decision.

01:21:26.000 It's not always.

01:21:27.000 It's not always the case.

01:21:28.000 Interesting.

01:21:28.000 But it's a very it's a very astute quote.

01:21:30.000 Yeah, you lo you'd use all your adrenaline.

01:21:32.000 Oof.

01:21:33.000 Getting tossed.

01:21:34.000 We just think of jail in those matches with the two.

01:21:37.000 I heard that was buggy chokes. 1.00

01:21:39.000 I heard that was a kind of exhibition, though.

01:21:41.000 They look fake.

01:21:42.000 Yeah.

01:21:42.000 Looked like it work.

01:21:43.000 Yeah.

01:21:43.000 They looked it looked fake.

01:21:44.000 Yeah, I believe it was fake.

01:21:49.000 Um I think it would happen anyway.

01:21:52.000 Perhaps against the case.

01:21:53.000 I mean, they I mean I knew they tapped him once before in a real match.

01:21:55.000 Yeah.

01:21:55.000 They had a match at A C C and uh.

01:21:58.000 Chail also took it on like a day notice.

01:22:00.000 Yeah.

01:22:01.000 Yeah.

01:22:01.000 So that's how that should go.

01:22:02.000 Yeah.

01:22:03.000 I'm sure he was in mid camp anyway.

01:22:04.000 Gordon, have you ever rolled with any of those high level Russian wrestlers or taggies?

01:22:10.000 Uh no.

01:22:12.000 I mean, there's some Sambo guys, like uh we had like a couple of smaller guys that used to train out of Ricardo, Ricardo Almado's camp.

01:22:20.000 Um, but like none of the big guys, no.

01:22:22.000 Um it was really I was listening to you talk about the importance of watching studying the minutiae like tape, like sitting there and watching like almost the way a football player watches tape.

01:22:34.000 Nobody does that, huh?

01:22:36.000 They do.

01:22:37.000 They do.

01:22:37.000 I'm saying with jujitsu.

01:22:38.000 Uh they do, but most people just don't know what to look for.

01:22:41.000 They they Oh, nice spinning elbow.

01:22:44.000 Yeah, you just break it down.

01:22:45.000 They look they look like they look for the wrong things or just surface level things most of the time.

01:22:50.000 Like Sarukian and uh Hamza would watch hours of tape. 0.77

01:22:54.000 Really?

01:22:55.000 And if they and they'd watch it with with no commentary, and they'd watch hours and hours to pick up tendencies from the guy, and if the guy only did it once, they'd watch like five of his fights.

01:23:03.000 Really?

01:23:03.000 If he only did a move once, it's on his replica.

01:23:06.000 So they're watching tape all the time.

01:23:07.000 All pros are big.

01:23:08.000 Yeah.

01:23:08.000 At this level, yeah, you don't make this level just.

01:23:10.000 But if you'd if you'd look at the wrestling that the Dagastani guys do in fighting, there's no real place to study that wrestling.

01:23:18.000 You have to create your own system because it's not jujitsu.

01:23:21.000 It's not wrestling.

01:23:22.000 Like if you look at freestyle wrestlers, freestyle wrestlers historically in the UFC don't hold anybody down.

01:23:27.000 Like they you they they take the take downs are scored by the actual takedowns in freestyle wrestling.

01:23:32.000 Yeah, I always I always wondered why um But that's a good point.

01:23:35.000 Not not control.

01:23:36.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:23:36.000 The takedown and when we were fighting means nothing.

01:23:39.000 It's the control that actually scores.

01:23:40.000 Like, can you hold the guy down and actually keep him down and do damage?

01:23:43.000 That's why the daggies are dominant. 1.00

01:23:44.000 Is that why Yuel Romero never used his wrestling?

01:23:46.000 Because he was so bad.

01:23:47.000 I think that was a cardio issue.

01:23:49.000 Yeah, really?

01:23:49.000 Well, he's he would he would put guys down, but he wouldn't hold them down.

01:23:52.000 Yeah, no.

01:23:53.000 Like like when Kabib and Hamzad put guys down.

01:23:56.000 Oh, Jones is fucking Okie up. 0.98

01:23:58.000 Or George put put a guy down, like he would keep he they keep him down.

01:24:01.000 Yep.

01:24:01.000 Okie's in real trouble.

01:24:03.000 And you know, George did a better job at punishing guys as they got up.

01:24:08.000 Oh, these elbows, Hamza and Khabib do a better job of oh my god.

01:24:11.000 Of controlling.

01:24:12.000 Of controlling and making them carry body weight control and then getting up.

01:24:15.000 So Jones has some fucking cardio, man, because this is a crazy insane.

01:24:20.000 And they're in the middle of the second, he's just smashing.

01:24:22.000 They're about to stop it.

01:24:23.000 They're about to stop it.

01:24:24.000 Oh my god, he's gonna go out.

01:24:24.000 There we go.

01:24:25.000 He's gonna go out.

01:24:26.000 Co-main event, baby, come in hot.

01:24:28.000 Wow.

01:24:28.000 What a comeback.

01:24:30.000 Paul Craig's fighting first.

01:24:32.000 Oh, Paul Craig.

01:24:33.000 That's my favorite guy to watch when he's on his back.

01:24:35.000 Yeah, he's good.

01:24:36.000 Because Paul Paul Craig can pull some shit off.

01:24:38.000 He's one of the rare guys.

01:24:41.000 Yeah, he loses.

01:24:42.000 But he just re the UFC just resigned him.

01:24:44.000 Oh, he's fighting Modestus Bokaucus.

01:24:47.000 Look, he's fun to watch.

01:24:48.000 I like him at uh light heavyweight too.

01:24:50.000 When he got down the middleweight, I was like, boy, how hard is that?

01:24:52.000 You're so big.

01:24:53.000 Are there any Americans left in the streets?

01:24:55.000 There's no Americans. 1.00

01:24:56.000 There's no American champions in here.

01:24:57.000 Right?

01:24:57.000 Right.

01:24:57.000 Taylor Harson.

01:24:58.000 Oh, Kale Hair County. 0.93

01:24:59.000 She's the only one.

01:25:01.000 I don't know.

01:25:01.000 Is she gonna fight uh Nunes at 45 at the white house?

01:25:05.000 35?

01:25:05.000 35.

01:25:06.000 Make it 45 for her. 0.58

01:25:07.000 I mean, I that's just painful.

01:25:08.000 She made 35 to win the title.

01:25:10.000 That's the champ.

01:25:11.000 She's the champ at 35. 1.00

01:25:12.000 That fights out the White House.

01:25:13.000 She was at the White House yesterday, I think.

01:25:15.000 How did she suck that? 1.00

01:25:16.000 It is kind of crazy that Amanda Nunes has been the 45 pound champion and then they just abandoned the weight class.

01:25:21.000 Yeah.

01:25:21.000 Because there's like three big bitches.

01:25:25.000 And she was running through them.

01:25:27.000 You know, like 45.

01:25:29.000 Yeah, I saw Kayla at one of the UFCs and just like when she was probably one seventy-five. 0.93

01:25:34.000 I mean it's obscene.

01:25:35.000 She's she's thick. 1.00

01:25:36.000 She looks like Glace and T Bell.

01:25:38.000 She's incredible.

01:25:38.000 She's just incredible.

01:25:39.000 She's like just incredible, like just you know, a body like that. 0.96

01:25:42.000 I'm too light in the ass, but you know, I appreciate it.

01:25:45.000 Yeah, would you like her to grab you and throw you around a little bit? 1.00

01:25:48.000 If she only had a huge car. 0.97

01:25:50.000 She'd stuff in my mouth against my will. 1.00

01:25:52.000 If she only had a beard in the car, she's my time, she'd be more than the car. 1.00

01:25:56.000 One of them, one of them beards like Gordon Ryan type special operator beards.

01:26:00.000 No, I think she's I think yeah, she's pretty girl. 1.00

01:26:03.000 She's and you're talking about the greatest judoka ever out of America. 1.00

01:26:06.000 And you wanna get Yen Genjek when she's uh she's I thought she was very hot. 1.00

01:26:10.000 You don't see her when she's all skinny and stuff. 0.98

01:26:12.000 I saw her at the UFC in a dress.

01:26:14.000 She looks a lot better now.

01:26:15.000 Jesus, yeah.

01:26:15.000 Yeah, she's starving herself to make that weight her whole life.

01:26:19.000 She was great, great fighter. 1.00

01:26:21.000 But uh Kayla Harrison's most supposedly that's the she's gonna find it in the White House card.

01:26:26.000 Valentina Shevchenko is uh I find her very attractive.

01:26:31.000 Cool.

01:26:32.000 I'm gonna share that with you guys.

01:26:33.000 You like how she got a gun tattooed on her hip.

01:26:35.000 I did this favor.

01:26:36.000 Yes, I do.

01:26:36.000 Wow.

01:26:36.000 Yes, I do.

01:26:38.000 It's very good.

01:26:39.000 She's a real kind black woman. 0.95

01:26:40.000 You would take kinda out of that sentence.

01:26:41.000 She's the real life black widow, like the lady from the Avengers.

01:26:44.000 Fuck yeah, shoots guns. 0.90

01:26:45.000 Yeah, like really good, too.

01:26:47.000 No, she's a really good markswoman, I guess you would say.

01:26:50.000 She's fighting Weile.

01:26:51.000 Yeah.

01:26:52.000 That's gonna be that's gonna be very fun to watch.

01:26:55.000 Well, at this point in her career, it seems to me that you know, she doesn't wade into the fire like she did when she was younger, you know, smarter, yeah.

01:27:02.000 Yeah, I mean you can't.

01:27:03.000 And she grapples heavy too.

01:27:04.000 If she has a very good grappler, very good grappler.

01:27:07.000 But Jean Whaley is a demon. 1.00

01:27:09.000 She's a demon. 1.00

01:27:10.000 Chinese demon. 0.97

01:27:11.000 She comes out and she could do everything. 0.84

01:27:13.000 Artificially created.

01:27:13.000 She's got to deal with that wrestling though.

01:27:15.000 That's the one thing I see.

01:27:17.000 Yeah, well, um, it's gonna be interesting.

01:27:19.000 It's gonna be interesting see if Jean Whaley is even stronger at 125. 1.00

01:27:23.000 Because I don't know how much weight she's cutting.

01:27:25.000 You know, I don't know how hard that 115 cut is.

01:27:28.000 Right.

01:27:28.000 But when you're down that low, ten pounds is a giant difference.

01:27:32.000 Everything it's so big.

01:27:33.000 There's never been any movement on just making another weight class in the middle of that.

01:27:36.000 God, there should be.

01:27:37.000 There should be a weight.

01:27:40.000 It should never happen.

01:27:41.000 There should be a weight class every 10 pounds for me.

01:27:44.000 Yeah.

01:27:45.000 No, boxing is a lot more.

01:27:46.000 Boxing a lot more.

01:27:47.000 It's just they just need it where there's tweeners, like 85 to 205 is bananas.

01:27:52.000 20 pounds is crazy.

01:27:53.000 Well, hold up.

01:27:54.000 Remember, I I would fight at one two thirty, two thirty-five.

01:27:57.000 Every guy I fought was two sixty-five.

01:27:59.000 Right.

01:27:59.000 Think about from two oh six to two sixty-five is a weight class.

01:28:02.000 That's insane.

01:28:03.000 Really, I should be a cruiserweight.

01:28:05.000 Yeah.

01:28:05.000 It should be a two twenty-five weight class.

01:28:07.000 Remember when we were trying to figure out that name the other day for the weight class in boxing?

01:28:11.000 I think it's called Bridgerweight.

01:28:13.000 I think they're calling it Bridgerweight.

01:28:15.000 There's like a 220-something weight class.

01:28:17.000 Meanwhile, I would like to.

01:28:18.000 Meanwhile, the gorilla over here couldn't make 225.

01:28:20.000 And he'll tell you he can, but he could.

01:28:22.000 Well, you could, but it would be horrible.

01:28:24.000 It would be it would be dehydration.

01:28:26.000 I could because I'm not doing tons of cardio now.

01:28:28.000 If Pereira can make 1850.

01:28:31.000 He can make it.

01:28:32.000 It's good.

01:28:33.000 But the thing is, like big strong muscle guys actually can lose more weight.

01:28:37.000 That's why Yo L could do it because your muscles are mostly wide.

01:28:39.000 Is that right?

01:28:40.000 That makes sense.

01:28:42.000 Yeah, bridger weight. 0.95

01:28:43.000 That's it.

01:28:46.000 That's an awesome idea.

01:28:47.000 Yeah.

01:28:48.000 It's a good move.

01:28:49.000 I think that they should have legitimately a a weight class every ten pounds in MMA, and I don't think that's bad.

01:28:55.000 You'd have a thing.

01:28:57.000 205, and you can get a little crazy there and go 205, 225.

01:29:01.000 And then I think for heavyweight, it should be unlimited.

01:29:03.000 It shouldn't be you have to make two.

01:29:05.000 The problem is you get big sloppies.

01:29:07.000 So what a single sloppies get fucked up.

01:29:09.000 They don't have a problem with that in boxing. 0.96

01:29:12.000 Yeah.

01:29:12.000 Look at Moses Atama, right?

01:29:14.000 Boxing doesn't have a problem like that.

01:29:17.000 Right?

01:29:17.000 That kid is only like 250 or something like that, or two forty something.

01:29:20.000 I mean, the UFC has a problem at two sixty-five.

01:29:23.000 Like there's no talent right now.

01:29:24.000 There's there's just no big guys.

01:29:25.000 Right.

01:29:26.000 But you don't have to be two sixty-five.

01:29:28.000 You you could be three hundred.

01:29:30.000 You could be two oh five.

01:29:31.000 Like a like literally Brock Lesnar.

01:29:33.000 Yeah.

01:29:34.000 I mean, look at Brock Lesnar or or Francis if he didn't cut weight.

01:29:37.000 Like Francis Cutsell, or Tim Sylvie in his prime when he was "Sausse!" What is Francis'prime manufacturing big guys right now?

01:29:45.000 Francis is many.

01:29:46.000 Yeah, I think Francis at his highest is probably around 300.

01:29:52.000 What?

01:29:53.000 Seriously?

01:29:54.000 All muscle.

01:29:55.000 And and there's no fat on him.

01:29:56.000 No.

01:29:56.000 I was I was sitting next to him, and his fucking qua like his leg was like a the size of my fucking torso.

01:30:02.000 Jesus Christ.

01:30:04.000 So he had to cut weight to get to 265.

01:30:06.000 What?

01:30:07.000 Imagine that.

01:30:07.000 So did Carwin, so did Lesnar.

01:30:09.000 Yep.

01:30:09.000 Some of those boys doing that.

01:30:10.000 So horny right now.

01:30:11.000 I mean I'm so hot.

01:30:12.000 I remember when I was trained at a Molly Easton's place in Boulder and Carwin walked in.

01:30:18.000 It looked like one of the Avengers.

01:30:19.000 A little like the thing.

01:30:20.000 He looks like the thing, you know.

01:30:21.000 First time I met so big.

01:30:22.000 First time I met Carwin, I look at him, I go, I go, fuck.

01:30:25.000 I go, I don't know what I'd do if I had to share a jail cell with you.

01:30:28.000 And he goes, I didn't even know him.

01:30:29.000 He goes, You'd suck my cock. 1.00

01:30:33.000 And then he picked me up.

01:30:34.000 I didn't even know he picked me up.

01:30:35.000 And he squeezed me, and I started tapping.

01:30:37.000 He goes, That's 30%.

01:30:39.000 That dude had giant fists.

01:30:41.000 Yeah.

01:30:42.000 His fists were preposterous.

01:30:44.000 4x, right?

01:30:45.000 Robert 4 and 5X.

01:30:46.000 Yeah.

01:30:46.000 Something bigger than that.

01:30:46.000 Yeah, he was 285.

01:30:48.000 He had the biggest glove ever, UFC history.

01:30:50.000 He was your he was your main sparring partner, right?

01:30:51.000 It's good for your head.

01:30:52.000 That's all I had.

01:30:53.000 Just punching each other in the face.

01:30:54.000 It was a great team.

01:30:56.000 We push each other.

01:30:56.000 Bro, how good is LaRome Murphy?

01:30:59.000 Fuck you.

01:31:00.000 How about poor Aaron Pico?

01:31:02.000 Yeah.

01:31:03.000 Is that what they're gonna do?

01:31:04.000 They did it.

01:31:05.000 What do you mean?

01:31:05.000 Got knocked out.

01:31:06.000 Leroy Murphy fucking spinning elbow Aaron Pico.

01:31:10.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh.

01:31:10.000 I thought you said Poirier and Pico.

01:31:13.000 Sorry, guys, speech impediment.

01:31:14.000 I thought you said that.

01:31:15.000 I was like, what?

01:31:15.000 The Poirier, what?

01:31:17.000 I was so confused.

01:31:18.000 I was like, Pico's going to 55, but he just got knocked out.

01:31:20.000 Dude, he looks sick.

01:31:21.000 He looks so Nico looks so good.

01:31:24.000 He looks so good, man.

01:31:25.000 Yeah, he's so slick.

01:31:27.000 He's too aggressive.

01:31:27.000 You said it.

01:31:28.000 Pico's right.

01:31:29.000 Right away.

01:31:29.000 Look at even Pico.

01:31:30.000 Pico Pico took him down.

01:31:32.000 Yeah.

01:31:33.000 Amazing wrestler.

01:31:33.000 Yeah.

01:31:34.000 And couldn't hold him down.

01:31:35.000 Yeah.

01:31:35.000 That's right.

01:31:36.000 Good point.

01:31:36.000 It's a good point.

01:31:37.000 Right?

01:31:37.000 If you had that daggy wrestling.

01:31:39.000 Yeah.

01:31:39.000 You could control him more.

01:31:40.000 But even the first 20 seconds and I looked at my wife, I'll go, Pico's gonna get knocked out.

01:31:44.000 She's like, what the fuck?

01:31:45.000 I'm like, he's way too aggressive.

01:31:47.000 You can get away being that aggressive at these lower levels.

01:31:49.000 Bellator, PFL, all that shit.

01:31:51.000 Right.

01:31:51.000 When you're fighting a world-class guy, dude, they're gonna use that aggression against you, and you're gonna get fucking time that's you're not just gonna get starched, you're gonna get so fucked.

01:31:59.000 I thought it was a I thought it was a lucky shot, and then I was like, Yeah, I don't know.

01:32:04.000 That's the vaccines talking.

01:32:05.000 Yeah, that's the vaccines.

01:32:06.000 It's the vaccines.

01:32:08.000 There's uh there's a few guys.

01:32:09.000 Oh, look at that fucking what is that choke? 0.74

01:32:11.000 Is that an Anaconda?

01:32:13.000 Uh I see the start of it.

01:32:15.000 How the guy gets over him and starts barking.

01:32:18.000 Jeez.

01:32:19.000 He's in that fight in nerd camp, right?

01:32:21.000 Yes, yes.

01:32:22.000 He's one of the best.

01:32:23.000 That's a good fight.

01:32:24.000 That's a really good fight.

01:32:24.000 Him and Lopez.

01:32:25.000 It's in San Antonio, isn't it?

01:32:27.000 Next Saturday.

01:32:28.000 It was supposed to be in Mexico.

01:32:29.000 Yeah.

01:32:29.000 Yeah, Lopez got who did he lose to?

01:32:32.000 Last fight?

01:32:32.000 Who is it?

01:32:33.000 Volkonovsky.

01:32:34.000 Guy Volkanovsky's so fucking good.

01:32:37.000 To come back, by the way, at that weight class, too.

01:32:39.000 His age.

01:32:40.000 At his age.

01:32:40.000 They should go le uh Murphy versus uh Volkanovsky.

01:32:44.000 Rob Font is doing his camp with us.

01:32:45.000 There's the choke, if you want to analyze it, Gordon.

01:32:48.000 That it's it's almost it's like a it looks like a figure four guillotine, but Bryce tried to turn out of it.

01:32:54.000 I think it started when he was chest to back.

01:32:57.000 Yeah.

01:32:58.000 Remember that was Bryce's discipline fight because he praised him.

01:33:01.000 It's a figure four guillotine, and he tried to turn out, but he didn't.

01:33:04.000 You're not getting out of the yikes. 1.00

01:33:07.000 Yeah, I talked to O'Malley about uh like I said, what is it about Marab, his chain wrestling and stuff?

01:33:12.000 And he was like, he's so he's actually he said Sean said he's fucking strong.

01:33:17.000 He's way stronger than you can imagine.

01:33:19.000 Like he's just you know, some of these guys are just made of metal.

01:33:22.000 That motherfucker worked so hard.

01:33:24.000 Rob?

01:33:25.000 Yeah.

01:33:25.000 So hard.

01:33:26.000 When DC went to visit him the day after he won after he won the title off of Sean, he was running.

01:33:31.000 What the day after DC went to his home in Vegas and he goes, Mirab's out running! 0.65

01:33:35.000 And DC made a video.

01:33:36.000 Can you believe this motherfucker?

01:33:37.000 He's a free.

01:33:38.000 He like showed his gym and the day after the fight.

01:33:40.000 The day after the fight.

01:33:40.000 So Sunday.

01:33:41.000 He went to visit his friend and who just won the title.

01:33:44.000 Marab is running.

01:33:45.000 Well, dude, he was when he was doing when he was wrestling with uh the gold medalist Henry Sehudo, he was winking and saying shit to Mark Zuckerberg at Cage Side.

01:33:55.000 Yeah.

01:33:55.000 He's like, I'm the fight.

01:33:57.000 How many picked him up?

01:33:58.000 Picked him up like a dog.

01:34:00.000 Kissed his back. 0.76

01:34:00.000 Yeah, just threw him to the ground, laughing. 0.76

01:34:02.000 Marab has the best weapon in UFC history.

01:34:04.000 It's cardio.

01:34:05.000 It's cardio.

01:34:06.000 He's also just so good.

01:34:07.000 It's strange.

01:34:08.000 And what you gotta like about him is he's super active.

01:34:11.000 Most champions aren't.

01:34:12.000 He wants to fight all the time.

01:34:14.000 That's a thousand pounds.

01:34:16.000 Well, he trains so hard and he trains constantly.

01:34:20.000 And you know, when I talk to guys who trained with him in the gym, they're like, you can't even watch just watching him hit pads is nuts.

01:34:26.000 Really?

01:34:26.000 He gets his everything full blast.

01:34:28.000 Full blast all the time.

01:34:30.000 And so he's gotten acclimated to just this insane workload.

01:34:33.000 And he loves it.

01:34:34.000 Yeah.

01:34:34.000 Same work rate.

01:34:35.000 Also, he's from a part of the world where like George is tough.

01:34:38.000 Yeah.

01:34:39.000 That's tough.

01:34:40.000 Because you have one option.

01:34:41.000 One option.

01:34:41.000 Fight your way out.

01:34:42.000 D DC was on Shay Shay Show, Shannon Sharps, and they were they're asking him, they're like, What is it about the Dagestanians?

01:34:48.000 And uh DC gave a great answer.

01:34:50.000 I love the interview.

01:34:51.000 He goes, It's not that they're better athletes or that they the any of that stuff.

01:34:55.000 They're not better athletes than we are.

01:34:57.000 It's just they have no other option.

01:34:59.000 So, like Shannon goes, You well, your son has all the resources.

01:35:03.000 But over there, they have nothing.

01:35:06.000 So my son has all the resources.

01:35:08.000 He's yeah, he's like, they they have to make it.

01:35:10.000 Well, my son can fall back on his dad.

01:35:12.000 Over there, there's no fallback.

01:35:14.000 Yeah.

01:35:14.000 So they train their ass off.

01:35:16.000 Because they have to.

01:35:17.000 Also, the hunger, the the drive to succeed.

01:35:20.000 Yeah.

01:35:20.000 And in Russia, it's supported.

01:35:22.000 Those countries, like you get a doctorate in boxing and shit.

01:35:24.000 Like you know, you're you gotta you get a massive stipend.

01:35:27.000 Yeah.

01:35:28.000 Khabib for winning the championship owns like half of Russia. 0.71

01:35:31.000 Yes, he does.

01:35:32.000 That's the award.

01:35:33.000 Yeah, like try to get him to fight again, man.

01:35:35.000 Like he's like, what?

01:35:36.000 Why?

01:35:36.000 Why would I do that?

01:35:37.000 Yeah.

01:35:37.000 Why would I put myself through that?

01:35:39.000 Plus, he's got to weigh 200 pounds now.

01:35:40.000 He's thick.

01:35:41.000 He's very thick.

01:35:42.000 He's big.

01:35:43.000 This boy Islam's doing it I think Islam only has like two or three left. 1.00

01:35:47.000 Max.

01:35:47.000 Maybe two left.

01:35:48.000 Really?

01:35:48.000 Yeah.

01:35:48.000 What makes you think that?

01:35:50.000 In his interviews talked about it.

01:35:51.000 Really?

01:35:52.000 Yeah.

01:35:52.000 Dude, John Fitch said when he would wrestle, uh, and John Fitz is an insane wrestler.

01:35:56.000 And John's probably 200 pounds walking around.

01:35:59.000 John said, in fact, he was 205 when I was talking to him.

01:36:01.000 And and he said, when he would wrestle Kabib, if he could stand up once in practice with him, it was a good day. 0.99

01:36:09.000 Jesus.

01:36:10.000 Like that's John Fitch.

01:36:11.000 But isn't very fascinating what you're saying, Gordon, that there is a giant difference between just regular freestyle wrestling and control-based MMA wrestling.

01:36:19.000 Yeah, it's it's completely different.

01:36:22.000 The different different rules, different scoring criteria, like the the takedowns themselves score, and the higher amplitude the throw, the more points you score.

01:36:31.000 Whereas when you're fighting, especially at the heavier weights, you don't want to lift the guy fucking over your back multiple times.

01:36:37.000 You get tired, and the more the more energy the throw, the more the higher amplitude, the less control you have when you land.

01:36:44.000 Americans just need to adapt to that style.

01:36:46.000 Again, they don't have some secret.

01:36:48.000 It's just we need to adapt our style to it.

01:36:51.000 Yeah, but they adapt it early on, and that's that's the secret.

01:36:54.000 There's so much to it though.

01:36:55.000 There's so much to it.

01:36:56.000 But if you if you look at Dagestani guys, they are they are significantly better than the Americans and every everyone uh at riding chest to chest and especially riding chest to back.

01:37:06.000 Like it's pretty easy to hold the guy down if you just stuff him in half guard and you ride chest to chest.

01:37:10.000 But when the guys start to turtle and they turn away, like Kabib, the only thing that ever fucked up Kabib was when guys grammied on him, like a guy I uh I forget who he fought earlier in his career, grammied a few times and actually got away.

01:37:22.000 Actually, reverse.

01:37:24.000 And then um, but and then Hamza actually follows Gramby's pretty well, like DDP tried one Gramby, I think it was, and Hamzat followed through.

01:37:32.000 Yeah, but their ability to ride chest to back uh and just keep hands on the floor the whole time. 0.93

01:37:38.000 So the entire weight, the entire like for like 22 minutes.

01:37:41.000 Carrying their weight D D P was carrying Hamnad's entire body weight. 1.00

01:37:44.000 It's also their risk control, so they take they take away their foundations.

01:37:48.000 Yeah, one of the most anxiety-filled moments I ever had calling a fight was when he got Michael Johnson and when Khabib got Michael Johnson in a Kamora and Michael wasn't tapping.

01:37:56.000 I'm like, Don't fuck please tap, please tap.

01:37:58.000 Please tap because it was like full on and if he wanted to, he could have snapped a shit.

01:38:03.000 Was that when he was talking to him saying, Come on, he's you know I deserve this?

01:38:07.000 You know I deserve titles.

01:38:08.000 You know, I deserve it.

01:38:09.000 Come on, come up, tap now.

01:38:11.000 That would have been like, you know, you're right.

01:38:12.000 I mean, what was actually interesting in the Hamdot fight was no and no one talked about this was he actually ended up in bottom position at the end of the fight.

01:38:19.000 Yes, and he ended up in half guard, he he couldn't get up, and DDP passed him into mount and then briefly took his back.

01:38:26.000 He fucked it up and he fell off, so everyone forgot about it. 0.93

01:38:29.000 But Hamzad himself wasn't that good at getting up when he was in bottom position.

01:38:33.000 Yeah, that's a good point.

01:38:34.000 He's very good.

01:38:35.000 He did a really good job at holding the guy down, but when he actually got put in bottom position, it it's it's funny because if he's he knows how to hold the guy down, so in theory, he should be able to reverse engineer that and say, Yeah, I'm doing this, this, and this to hold the guy down, so I need to deny him the ability to do this, this, and this.

01:38:52.000 But I I'd be curious on Hamzat's camp how often guys are getting him where he's working on his back.

01:38:58.000 Nobody is.

01:38:58.000 Yeah, probably nobody.

01:39:00.000 Well, that's that's his as his his problem.

01:39:01.000 Oh, how do you think he should be putting himself in those positions?

01:39:03.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:39:05.000 You know another good matchup that's coming?

01:39:07.000 Boat Nickel is uh fighting.

01:39:10.000 Oh, I just saw that.

01:39:11.000 I forget who it is now.

01:39:14.000 Yeah, what what about what about him?

01:39:16.000 Is he a really great jiu-jitsu guy?

01:39:17.000 World champion.

01:39:18.000 You ever seen his body?

01:39:19.000 Adolfo.

01:39:19.000 It makes Glaze and Tebow look like a fatso.

01:39:22.000 Yeah.

01:39:23.000 Show me Rodolfo Vieira's body.

01:39:24.000 You've never seen Hodolfo.

01:39:25.000 Adolpha's Jiu Jitsu guy.

01:39:28.000 Oh my god.

01:39:29.000 One of the freakiest bodies you've ever seen in MMA.

01:39:31.000 And an amazing jiu-jitsu guy.

01:39:32.000 World class jujitsu.

01:39:33.000 I think that's a tough matchup for Hadalfo.

01:39:35.000 Damn it.

01:39:35.000 Oh, that guy's fucking awesome.

01:39:37.000 I saw him at uh Metamorris.

01:39:39.000 Bro, he's a beast.

01:39:40.000 He fought somebody.

01:39:40.000 He's ridiculous.

01:39:41.000 He's a beast.

01:39:42.000 Yeah, I fucking, I'm built for dance.

01:39:44.000 This is such bullshit.

01:39:45.000 Look at that.

01:39:45.000 But uh in in MMA, he's his striking is much improved.

01:39:49.000 He's getting a lot better.

01:39:50.000 He's getting better.

01:39:51.000 Come on.

01:39:52.000 It's a good fight for Bo.

01:39:53.000 He's better than fucking Paulo Costa.

01:39:55.000 That's just shows you how fucking dangerous Fluffy Hernandez is because Fluffy cooked him.

01:39:59.000 He finished him.

01:40:00.000 Fluffy fucking people up.

01:40:02.000 He fucks people up.

01:40:02.000 He's like people someone was calling him the middleweight Marab.

01:40:06.000 And it's like that.

01:40:07.000 Like he melts guys.

01:40:08.000 He melts guys.

01:40:09.000 And it's interesting because he doesn't have like a world-class background in wrestling.

01:40:12.000 He quit wrestling, I think his freshman year in high school.

01:40:15.000 So he doesn't have like this extensive wrestling background.

01:40:18.000 Dog.

01:40:18.000 That guy's.

01:40:19.000 Remember you, me and Matt Mitre on, we were backstage and Rodolfo had his shirt off.

01:40:24.000 And he's just standing like that.

01:40:26.000 When?

01:40:27.000 It was at your fight.

01:40:28.000 Me, me, Matt Matron, and you, and I, and we were both look, we're all looking at him like this, just like like like teenage girls.

01:40:34.000 It's like, what the fuck is going on with that guy's body?

01:40:37.000 He has a preposterous build.

01:40:39.000 Preposterous.

01:40:41.000 It's interesting though how he doesn't have a lot of submissions in the UFC.

01:40:45.000 No.

01:40:46.000 Guys avoid it.

01:40:46.000 Guys avoid it, keep it on the feet.

01:40:48.000 You know?

01:40:49.000 It was like Bouchesha, too.

01:40:50.000 He came over, you know, he's doing well in one championship, then came over the UFC and he got fucking dealt with, man.

01:40:54.000 I love Boushesha.

01:40:56.000 But just didn't translate.

01:40:57.000 And then Boudet, the guy who beat him, they cut.

01:40:59.000 Yeah.

01:41:00.000 I didn't watch that fight, but uh, from what I understand, Bouchetha had a hard time holding him down.

01:41:04.000 He had his back so many times and he was getting high.

01:41:06.000 It's like, buddy, I need to know Jiu Jitsu 101.

01:41:09.000 How does a guy win a fight and then you cut him?

01:41:11.000 Boring.

01:41:13.000 UFC's there for entertainment.

01:41:14.000 They did that.

01:41:15.000 Was it that boring?

01:41:16.000 I mean, that's how you're supposed to fight that guy.

01:41:18.000 Like you say Ham T's fight with DDP was boring then.

01:41:21.000 Oh, I loved it.

01:41:22.000 But I see what you're saying, right?

01:41:24.000 I see what you're saying.

01:41:25.000 But with with him, it's you know, heavyweight, no finishes, and he had a body of a you know a lunch lady. 0.90

01:41:30.000 But we can't sell this.

01:41:32.000 We can't understand.

01:41:36.000 Cutting him off of win against Bouchecha is is kind of rough.

01:41:39.000 I I I agree.

01:41:41.000 Yeah, they just had a lot of hype coming in.

01:41:43.000 They didn't cut, they didn't cut him, they didn't re-sign him.

01:41:45.000 That's the same thing.

01:41:46.000 Hey, tomato type.

01:41:50.000 Tot your boy Dana.

01:41:51.000 I'm the Dana.

01:41:52.000 I'm with Zayda.

01:41:53.000 I would be the worst for that because I'm an I would be like anti-marketing.

01:41:57.000 I would be, there's the number system.

01:41:59.000 Let's figure out what the number system is.

01:42:01.000 So number one, the champion, always has to fight number two.

01:42:04.000 Yeah.

01:42:06.000 Yeah.

01:42:06.000 I get it, but I mean I feel like we're trying to see what the best guy is.

01:42:09.000 If it's football, hey, what can I get baseball or anything like that?

01:42:13.000 Like you have to you do this, and that's how you get you get to the number one.

01:42:16.000 You'll see it in the case.

01:42:17.000 Craig's gotta be careful that overhand right.

01:42:19.000 But they make they'll make more money than me.

01:42:21.000 They'll make way more money than my version, which takes place on a football field.

01:42:25.000 Dude, you and Eddie in that fucking football field and no gloves.

01:42:28.000 No gloves.

01:42:30.000 No gloves.

01:42:30.000 Yes, years of argument.

01:42:32.000 Um up kicks allowed, up kicks allowed.

01:42:34.000 Soccer kicks allowed, stomps allowed, pride, old pride.

01:42:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:42:39.000 Yeah.

01:42:39.000 But better.

01:42:40.000 God.

01:42:40.000 Because pride didn't have elbows.

01:42:42.000 True.

01:42:43.000 Which is really bananas.

01:42:44.000 When you think about it.

01:42:45.000 That's what they drew the line.

01:42:46.000 When Rampage Jackson did, do you do you remember when Ricardo Rona, that crazy slam off the triangle?

01:42:52.000 Yeah.

01:42:52.000 Now imagine that's okay.

01:42:54.000 But you can't elbow a guy.

01:42:56.000 No, that's where we draw the line.

01:42:58.000 Or like bandalic stomps, like stomp kicking.

01:43:02.000 Do they even have did Pride even have standing elbows?

01:43:04.000 I don't remember.

01:43:05.000 Name one elbow every song.

01:43:07.000 That is wild.

01:43:07.000 So we see Crocop soccer kick guy in the face.

01:43:11.000 Yeah.

01:43:12.000 Literally.

01:43:13.000 Like, that's good.

01:43:14.000 That is so crazy.

01:43:15.000 They didn't even allow standing elbows.

01:43:16.000 That's where they draw the line, dude.

01:43:17.000 They used to have headbuts.

01:43:18.000 You could be in somebody's car and just starting headbutting.

01:43:20.000 No, no, that was UFC.

01:43:22.000 That was early days.

01:43:22.000 They used to do that.

01:43:24.000 Yeah.

01:43:24.000 Maybe early days of Pride had that.

01:43:26.000 Because early days of Pride was like 94.

01:43:28.000 Uh huh.

01:43:29.000 And there was still headbuts back then because I remember when I was working for the UFC in 97, Mark Coleman was using headbuts from the guard.

01:43:37.000 Yeah.

01:43:37.000 Yep.

01:43:37.000 And with wrestling shoes on.

01:43:40.000 Yeah, bro.

01:43:40.000 Everybody got on the sauce and Mark Coleman was around.

01:43:43.000 Everybody got saucy.

01:43:45.000 That's a rumor.

01:43:46.000 Everybody got saucy.

01:43:47.000 Because that dude would hold you down and headbutt the fuck out of you. 0.97

01:43:49.000 Do you want to talk about somebody on the sauce when you look at Mark Kerr and his heyday?

01:43:52.000 Oh my goodness.

01:43:53.000 Captain America besides Randy Hands.

01:43:55.000 I was there, he was like two eighty-five.

01:43:56.000 I was there when Kerr.

01:43:58.000 He wrestled at 188 in college, senior year, I believe.

01:44:01.000 And he was 260.

01:44:02.000 And then he was like, this is gay. 0.94

01:44:04.000 I was there when I'm going to 285.

01:44:06.000 Kerr when Kerr fought Dan Bobit and he stuck his chin in his eye.

01:44:09.000 Yeah.

01:44:10.000 Stuck his chin in his eye socket and grabbed the back of his neck and you should look God.

01:44:15.000 I'll tap.

01:44:16.000 Look at that's me interviewing him.

01:44:18.000 I was with you, Bubba.

01:44:19.000 Size of that motherfucker.

01:44:20.000 I was with you that that uh we went to that fight.

01:44:23.000 And we talked to him afterwards.

01:44:24.000 Crazy.

01:44:25.000 How about the picture of him next to it?

01:44:27.000 The sad truth.

01:44:28.000 Oh my god, that's crazy.

01:44:30.000 How about the rocket to get on more steroids to play him in a biopic?

01:44:35.000 That's how big Marker was.

01:44:36.000 They're like, hey, hey Rock, we need you to play Marker.

01:44:39.000 We need you to get him on more steroids. 1.00

01:44:40.000 I hear Rock got like a they got a eight minutes standing.

01:44:44.000 Yeah, on that.

01:44:45.000 Brock lost a lot of weight.

01:44:47.000 He lost a lot of weight.

01:44:48.000 Have you seen him now?

01:44:48.000 He's slimmed down.

01:44:49.000 I bet getting that big probably felt like shit.

01:44:52.000 Well, someone was like, hey, your heart's gonna explode, right?

01:44:54.000 And number two, you got 50 and your heart's gonna explain.

01:44:57.000 Your heart's working overtime.

01:44:58.000 And you don't have to forge internals anymore.

01:45:01.000 And also he wants different roles.

01:45:03.000 He doesn't want to just play the action.

01:45:04.000 Right, right, right.

01:45:05.000 Of course.

01:45:05.000 Yeah.

01:45:05.000 They all want to do that.

01:45:07.000 Batista.

01:45:08.000 That's why he's right.

01:45:10.000 Yeah.

01:45:10.000 He lost all that weight too.

01:45:12.000 And people are like, oh, you look so scrawny now.

01:45:14.000 And he was like, I'm 6'4, 240.

01:45:16.000 Yes.

01:45:18.000 He's like, I need to break too.

01:45:20.000 My fucking body, man.

01:45:22.000 Like the difference between him at 300 pounds being very unhealthy.

01:45:25.000 He's like, I feel so much better now.

01:45:27.000 Yeah, I saw him in an interview recently.

01:45:32.000 I love that guy as an actor, but the thing that he did on the Jimmy Kimmel show where he was like mocking Trump and like punching the heavy wag and calling him a bag of milk.

01:45:40.000 It was so cringy.

01:45:41.000 Who is this?

01:45:41.000 Yeah.

01:45:41.000 He's like, you think you're a tough guy?

01:45:43.000 Yeah, fuck, dude.

01:45:44.000 Okay.

01:45:44.000 He's 80.

01:45:46.000 What are you doing, dude?

01:45:47.000 So pinging the bag?

01:45:49.000 What is this?

01:45:50.000 Who told who said you should do this?

01:45:51.000 Have you ever seen his if he wins?

01:45:53.000 This is a bad look.

01:45:55.000 Well, I bet you got paid though.

01:45:56.000 I bet he did.

01:45:57.000 It's like Travis Kelsey with Pfizer.

01:45:58.000 Yeah, he gave like 20.

01:46:00.000 20 mil.

01:46:01.000 I was making fun of him.

01:46:01.000 They told me how much he made.

01:46:02.000 I went to the city.

01:46:02.000 I get it.

01:46:04.000 He was uh he probably said, Give me that Biden dose.

01:46:06.000 Batista had an alien in it.

01:46:08.000 Yeah.

01:46:08.000 What's that?

01:46:09.000 Have you seen Batista had an MMA fight?

01:46:11.000 Yeah, one MMA fights took guy down.

01:46:13.000 Jiu Jitsu.

01:46:14.000 Big fucking strong.

01:46:16.000 You always gotta be careful with celebrity belts.

01:46:18.000 Well, I Matter Royal, I think.

01:46:20.000 Who's got one that's it's illegitimate? 0.53

01:46:22.000 Is there because everybody brings up that Moneybird guy?

01:46:24.000 You you trained with him.

01:46:25.000 Yeah, friends with him.

01:46:26.000 Gordon, Gordon, Gordon.

01:46:29.000 Derek.

01:46:30.000 Everyone thinks that Derek is gonna go out and beat an ADCC champion.

01:46:34.000 Well, that's about to get a big thing.

01:46:38.000 That's not how it's gonna work.

01:46:39.000 Um, but I mean, if he trained with like a guy, his like he's 45 years old or 42 years old.

01:46:45.000 Like if he trained trained with like a 42-year-old black belt, he'd do fine. 0.75

01:46:49.000 That's all you need to hear.

01:46:51.000 Because everybody was so against it in saying that because he's rich...

01:46:55.000 But here's the thing if you're rich and you have discipline.

01:46:58.000 Oh, jeez.

01:46:58.000 And oh, did he kill him?

01:47:00.000 Yeah, that's bad.

01:47:01.000 That's really bad.

01:47:02.000 Come on events coming up.

01:47:03.000 What was that?

01:47:03.000 That was a weird stop.

01:47:05.000 It was bad.

01:47:05.000 No, not really.

01:47:06.000 It was really bad.

01:47:07.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:47:08.000 I mean, it like he stepped away.

01:47:10.000 Yeah.

01:47:10.000 Oh, it was off to the bell.

01:47:12.000 Oh, we didn't hear the bell.

01:47:13.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:47:14.000 They should waved it off.

01:47:15.000 Bukakis had the worst fucking knee injury I've ever seen in the UFC.

01:47:18.000 Really?

01:47:18.000 Khalil Round Tree sidekicked him in the knee.

01:47:21.000 Right.

01:47:21.000 Remember that?

01:47:23.000 It was horrible, dude.

01:47:24.000 He totally bent his knees sideways and down.

01:47:27.000 See if you can find that, Jamie, so we can all cringe.

01:47:29.000 Gordon, I guess.

01:47:30.000 I guess when it comes to giving a big little round tree with Dustus Bukakis.

01:47:34.000 I guess when it comes to giving that rich guy the black belt, I think for people that do jujitsu, it's like there's different levels of black belt.

01:47:40.000 Like if you if you're never gonna compete and he got him what two years?

01:47:43.000 It's three and a half.

01:47:45.000 That's the thing.

01:47:47.000 First thing is that fucking matter. 0.74

01:47:49.000 Like just get that Arjitsu.

01:47:50.000 The belts are relevant.

01:47:52.000 That's point.

01:47:52.000 Good point.

01:47:53.000 It's like it just explained irrelevant.

01:47:55.000 Like the there's just focus on getting better at jujitsu.

01:47:58.000 The belts are irrelevant.

01:47:59.000 Agree.

01:47:59.000 I didn't I didn't come up with the mark and give him his black belt.

01:48:01.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:48:02.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, I would I didn't give him his black belt either.

01:48:04.000 Um but if you're but Jake Shields did it, Jake Shields is very legit.

01:48:08.000 And so if he said he's a black belt, I just take it at face value. 0.81

01:48:13.000 Okay, watch this, watch this.

01:48:16.000 Oh jeez.

01:48:18.000 Bro, and that's Khalil Roundtree who's one of the nastiest fucking kickers in the sport.

01:48:22.000 Ugh.

01:48:22.000 Knee is shot.

01:48:23.000 Oh, look at him.

01:48:24.000 He's just laying there in agony.

01:48:26.000 And you know that's ten months.

01:48:27.000 Oh, at least.

01:48:28.000 He had to get it reconstructed.

01:48:30.000 But now Bukakis has some big ass legs. 1.00

01:48:33.000 Here's the elbow that took Paul Craig out.

01:48:34.000 Oh my god.

01:48:35.000 Fucking.

01:48:36.000 Isn't that crazy how sideways that goes?

01:48:38.000 Fuck that.

01:48:38.000 That goes so sideways, dude.

01:48:40.000 It just blew it apart.

01:48:41.000 God.

01:48:42.000 Your knees are the shit.

01:48:43.000 But he trained seven days a week.

01:48:45.000 Look at this.

01:48:45.000 Like four hours a day.

01:48:46.000 Who does?

01:48:47.000 Derek.

01:48:49.000 That's a lot.

01:48:49.000 That's legit.

01:48:50.000 Yeah, man.

01:48:51.000 If you've got discipline with legitimate champions, and he has like some of the best ability to recall information that I've ever seen.

01:48:57.000 Like I could I can teach him something.

01:48:59.000 I could teach him something.

01:49:00.000 Autism.

01:49:01.000 Why about it?

01:49:03.000 I can teach him something, and like I come to you later, and he's like, he's like, oh, we worked on this, this, and this last time.

01:49:08.000 So I guess I guess he'd be a black belt as far as knowledge knowledge rolling with you guys.

01:49:13.000 But as far as competition goes, like is he executing it in against other guys?

01:49:18.000 Like besides you.

01:49:19.000 He doesn't compete.

01:49:20.000 He has no aspiration.

01:49:21.000 No, no, no, he means in training, which sparks.

01:49:22.000 Like, does he does he go against other like purple belts, brown belts?

01:49:26.000 Uh so he trains he trains for the guy, so he comes in to try to train him.

01:49:29.000 So he doesn't have like a lot of looks.

01:49:31.000 Like he has like he doesn't go like a normal gym and train, which I think is something that's important to do just for your just personal journey in jiu-jitsu.

01:49:38.000 Um but if he like we like we just opened the new school, we just opened Kingsway.

01:49:42.000 Uh-and we have like we have we have a bunch of black belts who come from other schools.

01:49:46.000 Uh-huh.

01:49:47.000 And you know, he goes against it.

01:49:48.000 For the last like 10 years, I'm used to being around like a shitty black belt to me, is like a guy compete at a world level and I call my submission on. 1.00

01:49:54.000 That's like my sh my like definition of a shitty black belt. 1.00

01:49:57.000 God damn.

01:49:58.000 Like sorry.

01:49:59.000 But there's levels.

01:50:00.000 Fuck you, Gordon.

01:50:01.000 No, there's levels.

01:50:02.000 When you actually go to a gym and you see what your average black belt is, it kind of brings you back to reality.

01:50:07.000 And you're like, oh, this is what most black belts are. 1.00

01:50:08.000 Like if Derek rolled with like a regular black belt in a gym, he'd do fine.

01:50:12.000 Maybe, right?

01:50:12.000 Because he has he's not doing it.

01:50:14.000 It's like when Brian told me he's really good at tennis, and I said, Are you paying the the instructor?

01:50:17.000 I didn't say that.

01:50:20.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:50:21.000 Like if you're paying the guy.

01:50:22.000 I train with normal black belt at a gym and I train with Derek when I go there.

01:50:25.000 Like he I'm I'm telling you, he would do fine against the normal black belt. 1.00

01:50:28.000 Well, then that's what it is.

01:50:29.000 Yeah, you would know.

01:50:30.000 Like, like he's not gonna he's not gonna go out and win worlds, but like if he had if he got to compete against like an average black belt who's been doing jujitsu for you know ten years and he does it for an hour at a random gym in Kentucky, like you would hold his own.

01:50:42.000 Like he would, I mean, he would probably beat him up to be honest.

01:50:44.000 Wait, Wayne McCulloch said about me on a on a radio station.

01:50:47.000 I like how he brought it back to you.

01:50:48.000 No, I'm gonna tell you, because they to his point, to his point, Wayne McCullough McCullough goes, I put I put Brian in the I laugh even saying it.

01:50:56.000 He goes, he goes, I put Brian in the ring with anybody.

01:50:59.000 I meanwhile, meanwhile, even a remotely good amateur would knock me the fuck out.

01:51:06.000 It's not just that, being in the ring with anybody doesn't mean anything.

01:51:08.000 It just means you once watched you get punched, also I never put Brian in the ring with Mike Tyson.

01:51:12.000 Also, I never I never I would spar with these guys if they were good, they would take it easy and they'd move around with a 48-year-old actor.

01:51:20.000 Like he's a he's a 42-year-old hobbyist who's worth a hundred million dollars and focuses on making money.

01:51:25.000 Yeah.

01:51:25.000 And also trains four hours a day.

01:51:26.000 Sounds awesome.

01:51:27.000 If you're disciplined, everyone's giving him shit because he used it to market himself and was like, you're too fucking stupid to get a black belt in three and a half years, and I'm not.

01:51:35.000 That's why everyone's upset about him.

01:51:37.000 Well, but he does he just train hard every day.

01:51:39.000 It's a great idea because I had no idea he existed, and now I'm defending him.

01:51:43.000 Yeah, I've defended him based on what you said.

01:51:46.000 Actually, he's here right now.

01:51:48.000 He did the 1030.

01:51:49.000 Paul Craig just retired.

01:51:51.000 Good for him.

01:51:52.000 Yeah, that's enough.

01:51:54.000 I mean, that guy's been KO'd again a gang of times, and he's a great guy.

01:51:58.000 He's very smart too.

01:52:00.000 I'm sure it's like to a point though, right?

01:52:01.000 Where you get to an age.

01:52:03.000 By the way, has a fucking submission victory over the champion, Mangoman Nikolaev.

01:52:06.000 Caught him with a triangle.

01:52:07.000 Yep.

01:52:08.000 His triangle's so tight, it's so quick, too.

01:52:10.000 Oh he got on Calaban.

01:52:12.000 Yeah, with one second to go, dog, one second to go in the third round.

01:52:15.000 Whipped up a triangle and fucking he made him tap with one second to go.

01:52:18.000 That's how tight it was.

01:52:19.000 And had the COVID vaccine the day before.

01:52:21.000 That's what's incredible.

01:52:22.000 Yeah, he had all of them.

01:52:23.000 But Gordon, you can see why some people, if a guy gets his blackburn two years, you're like, okay, what's going on?

01:52:27.000 Three and a half.

01:52:28.000 But you're right, you're not going to be able to do that.

01:52:31.000 But how much did he really train?

01:52:33.000 So like this is the idea that we always say.

01:52:35.000 This is what I always say with like when people talk about Jake Paul.

01:52:37.000 They say, Oh, Jake Paul is fucking YouTubers, this and that.

01:52:40.000 Goes, pull all push all that away. 0.99

01:52:42.000 Yes.

01:52:42.000 But that doesn't mean he can't be good at something.

01:52:44.000 Right.

01:52:45.000 Like, and also the kid was a wrestler in high school and college, legitimate athlete.

01:52:49.000 Like, if I just watched him, if I watched him knock out Tyron Woodley, just watched him, I'd say that kid's a prospect.

01:52:56.000 He's fun, he's exciting, he's young, he's got one punch, go to sleep, power.

01:53:00.000 Yes, exactly.

01:53:01.000 He didn't have all that baggage.

01:53:02.000 But I put it.

01:53:03.000 But that's the baggage is psychological.

01:53:04.000 You look at him like he's the YouTube guy.

01:53:06.000 Yeah, but a rich guy, like uh like a Moneybird guy or a Zuckerberg, you say, Oh, he can fuck that guy.

01:53:12.000 But if he's got discipline and he can hire the best trainers, if he really doesn't have to do it, then he's tough.

01:53:19.000 If he's actually like, he's better, he's in Austin.

01:53:22.000 He did the 1030 to 12 class, and then he's taking he's taking three two-hour private with John Carlo Luke and Marigali.

01:53:28.000 That's legit.

01:53:29.000 So you trained.

01:53:32.000 You can't knock just that on the water.

01:53:34.000 And he's also been really successful in something else, so he applies that discipline to his own.

01:53:38.000 And not only that, the workload, if he's doing that many hours and he's doing it every day, it's a lot.

01:53:43.000 This is the Gordon Ryan method, right?

01:53:45.000 Your method has always been not just study harder than everybody else, but you don't take days off.

01:53:50.000 That's a giant factor.

01:53:51.000 Yeah, it's a giant factor.

01:53:52.000 I've taught I talk about him all the time because that training 365 days a year.

01:53:58.000 You wouldn't take one day kind of nuts.

01:54:00.000 No.

01:54:01.000 Wow.

01:54:01.000 No days off.

01:54:02.000 I mean, if I'm sick or I have staff or my legs hurt, I come watch.

01:54:05.000 I'm always there thinking about the sport.

01:54:07.000 But Joe, but when I my thing with Jake Paul is there, take all that baggage away.

01:54:12.000 You would still if this is if boxing had a uh a belt class system, you would still say Jake is a blue belt with his experience.

01:54:20.000 You wouldn't say he's a black belt, he's not a master of the sport, even though he's dedicated to whatever the last four.

01:54:25.000 But this goes back to my original point, which is just belts are just fucking meaningless.

01:54:30.000 This belt thing, like blue belts can beat up black belts now. 1.00

01:54:33.000 Yeah, I don't like you know, it's they certainly can if they're strong and they're fast, and they got tight technique and the black belts got a big thing. 1.00

01:54:40.000 That's a really good black belt.

01:54:43.000 There was no blue belt.

01:54:46.000 When I end up black belt in three and a half years, no, but I also don't have any black belts.

01:54:49.000 Like my standard for a black belt is like so unrealistically high that I don't even I don't have a black belt.

01:54:55.000 Have you not given a black belt?

01:54:56.000 No.

01:54:56.000 Eddie had this kid, I don't have any black belt.

01:54:58.000 Eddie had this kid that was division one wrestler.

01:54:59.000 I wish I could remember his name because he was a fucking nightmare.

01:55:02.000 Every time I roll, it was so ridiculous.

01:55:04.000 We would do neon belly drills, and you know, you start with neon belly, and this dude would throw me off him like I was a pillow, and then when he would get on top of me, knee on my belly, I was going nowhere.

01:55:13.000 I was stuck there.

01:55:14.000 We're the same size, we're the same size.

01:55:16.000 He was crazy fucking strong.

01:55:19.000 Now, that guy was a blue belt.

01:55:21.000 Wow.

01:55:22.000 Do you know what I'm saying?

01:55:23.000 Like he was just an elite wrestler who you just show him a few of these things, and he already knows how to move his body and control people.

01:55:30.000 But he doesn't know how to do an umma plot or a proper handball. 0.54

01:55:33.000 He didn't, he's terrible off his back.

01:55:34.000 Yeah, he's good at the ball.

01:55:35.000 He's not a black belt, but he's also been the wrestling.

01:55:38.000 He could fuck black belts up. 1.00

01:55:39.000 Yeah, he could.

01:55:40.000 Because he could pass your guard, he would smush you, he would geek.

01:55:43.000 But he was a D1 wrestler, right?

01:55:45.000 He was a D1 wrestler who was jacked.

01:55:47.000 He had this power lifting routine that he would do.

01:55:51.000 He would not skip powerlifting route workouts.

01:55:53.000 He's like, it's the most important part of my game.

01:55:55.000 It was all clean.

01:55:56.000 He's all power.

01:55:57.000 And that's all power lifting, deadlifts, snatches.

01:56:00.000 It was all that's all he did.

01:56:01.000 To the other end of that, we've had D1 guys come in to the academy and they get fucking smoked.

01:56:07.000 That can happen too.

01:56:08.000 That could happen too.

01:56:08.000 But this kid was how it goes.

01:56:10.000 But he was training for a couple of things.

01:56:12.000 There's been blue belts or purple elves that come in and get fucking starch, man. 1.00

01:56:14.000 It takes a long time to learn and stuff like that.

01:56:16.000 But I'm saying is that this guy loved MMA.

01:56:19.000 Yeah.

01:56:19.000 He was an elite wrestler.

01:56:21.000 And he was two years into jujitsu, but he was a blue belt.

01:56:24.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:56:24.000 Yeah.

01:56:25.000 So he's a blue belt, but years of experience.

01:56:29.000 Fucking trouble.

01:56:29.000 I just gave Jason Nolfa's blue belt.

01:56:32.000 Jason Nolfa's like having matches with like Renato Canut, like he's like having like he had matches like Ty Ratolo, like he's having like competitive matches.

01:56:39.000 And did you give him away his blue because of experience?

01:56:42.000 Well, he's like a world-class wrestler.

01:56:44.000 Like he's such a fashion.

01:56:47.000 Do you think I think this is I've always said this, but I say it again.

01:56:49.000 That's the best base.

01:56:51.000 If you could dictate where the fight takes place, that's the most important thing.

01:56:54.000 Look at all the champs.

01:56:55.000 Yeah, all fights start striking.

01:56:57.000 But look what happens to a lot of these guys that have Striking.

01:57:00.000 And like, did you see when Chaos Williams fought Gustafson?

01:57:03.000 Yes.

01:57:04.000 That fucking Viking dude.

01:57:05.000 No.

01:57:06.000 He just Chaos Williams is terrifying power.

01:57:09.000 Terrifying one punch.

01:57:10.000 Just has a highlight reel of starching guys with one shot.

01:57:13.000 This fucking Viking just got a hold of him and just absolutely ragdolled him for three rounds. 1.00

01:57:19.000 To the point, like you felt bad for chaos at the end.

01:57:22.000 It was a beat down beating the shit out of him.

01:57:24.000 Like I've never seen him be able to beat the shit out of chaos.

01:57:27.000 It's grappling.

01:57:28.000 It's crazy.

01:57:28.000 The wrestling is so goddamn important.

01:57:30.000 If you can do that and you can hold a guy and you could dictate where the fight takes place, that's number one.

01:57:35.000 Even if a fight starts standing.

01:57:36.000 It also creates fucking dangerous.

01:57:39.000 And Gustavson got KO'd earlier today.

01:57:41.000 He he got KO'd by uh that Russian cat that I thought was gonna be a grappling match. 0.99

01:57:45.000 Alexander Gussen.

01:57:46.000 He doesn't have no no no.

01:57:47.000 Oh, okay.

01:57:47.000 I'm sorry.

01:57:48.000 Completely different.

01:57:49.000 Andreas Gustinson.

01:57:50.000 But his fucking strength is insane.

01:57:54.000 This guy does one armed barbell snatches with 175 pounds.

01:57:59.000 What?

01:58:00.000 That dude.

01:58:01.000 He's like the strongest guy.

01:58:03.000 Find some video.

01:58:04.000 There's vid there's a video compilation of him weight lifting.

01:58:07.000 It's insane.

01:58:08.000 This is him.

01:58:08.000 Yeah, that's like crazy.

01:58:09.000 Look at how much he got stopped today in the first round.

01:58:12.000 What does he what does he fight at?

01:58:14.000 170.

01:58:14.000 Oh my God.

01:58:15.000 So my point is, at least in the Chaos Williams fight's good example.

01:58:19.000 The grappling is so goddamn important.

01:58:22.000 It's number one.

01:58:23.000 Number one for sure.

01:58:24.000 Yeah.

01:58:25.000 Number one for sure.

01:58:27.000 Oh keep on the feet, go to the floor. 0.99

01:58:29.000 And if you're fighting for 20 years, like you take so much less damage than a striker.

01:58:34.000 Correct.

01:58:34.000 That's the thing that no one talks about.

01:58:36.000 Like, look how much damage like uh like a beep took in his career versus one hand.

01:58:40.000 But that's why I always say touched four or five times his whole.

01:58:45.000 But that's why I say it's always way more impressive what Izzy's done, what Alex has done.

01:58:49.000 When they're strikers and they they're they don't have an option to grapple, and you know they're gonna keep it on the feet and they get to that championship level.

01:58:55.000 That level of difficulty is so much higher than what Kabib or these other grapplers are doing.

01:59:00.000 Because you know they're not they're only gonna do one thing.

01:59:02.000 Right just gonna show like Pereira.

01:59:04.000 That's what I'm saying, Alex.

01:59:05.000 Alex is all they're gonna do is they're gonna knock you out.

01:59:08.000 Yeah, they have no other uh other way to win.

01:59:11.000 That's that's all they're gonna do.

01:59:12.000 Well, when they get to the championship level, he was the guy I was the most excited about when he came over from glory.

01:59:17.000 Because I'm a warrior.

01:59:19.000 I was like, dude, you gotta you gotta watch this.

01:59:23.000 Man, I just always lost.

01:59:26.000 You always remember from gyms, right?

01:59:28.000 Like there's always there's always a guy in the gym that you're like, how are you doing that?

01:59:32.000 Like, how are you hitting everybody so hard?

01:59:34.000 Like, how are you hitting there's guys you'd watch them hit pads?

01:59:37.000 You're like, okay, what the fuck are you doing different than everybody else?

01:59:40.000 That's Pereira.

01:59:43.000 You see him right hook that fucking punch machine.

01:59:46.000 Yeah, you know that punch machine?

01:59:47.000 Yeah, he got one ninety with his right hand, his left hand's his power hand, dude.

01:59:54.000 His left hand was hurt, yeah, so he threw a right.

01:59:56.000 God Mike Brown about he said that about Dustin Poirier.

01:59:59.000 He said Dustin Poirier knocks guys out all the time.

02:00:02.000 I he Dostin Pore is a terrific puncher, absolutely.

02:00:05.000 But Pereira is a different thing, man.

02:00:07.000 You're talking about the biggest.

02:00:07.000 He's like a one in a million guy.

02:00:10.000 Really?

02:00:10.000 The power this guy has is one in a million.

02:00:12.000 It's nuts.

02:00:13.000 He's built like a brain manager.

02:00:15.000 He's built different.

02:00:15.000 He's built like a fucking alien, man.

02:00:17.000 His bill is this high, it starts in the middle of his back.

02:00:20.000 He is a legitimate Amazon warrior, like a lit absolute legit Amazon warrior.

02:00:26.000 His family comes from an Amazonian tribe.

02:00:29.000 Oh my god.

02:00:29.000 So he the power this guy.

02:00:31.000 You see his sister?

02:00:32.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:32.000 She's fucking bitch is out too.

02:00:34.000 She's fucking good, man.

02:00:35.000 And technically, this is when he knocked out Izzy the first time.

02:00:38.000 Dude.

02:00:39.000 Wow.

02:00:40.000 Terrifying puncher.

02:00:41.000 And then by the time he got to glory, he went up from 85 and put some mass on.

02:00:46.000 And that's when he started fucking people up.

02:00:48.000 When he was a two-time glory champion in 85 and 205.

02:00:52.000 God, did they fast track him?

02:00:53.000 He's LFA starch and dude.

02:00:55.000 They put him right in the UFC.

02:00:56.000 Right in the UFC.

02:00:57.000 Starching.

02:00:57.000 Starches Michaelatus with that flying knee.

02:01:00.000 Oh my goodness.

02:01:01.000 Jesus.

02:01:01.000 And then starches Sean Strickland.

02:01:03.000 Okay.

02:01:04.000 And then he had that one fight where Bruno Silva made the fucking that dude.

02:01:07.000 Uh I forget who he's fighting.

02:01:10.000 That that guy.

02:01:10.000 There's so many guys in here.

02:01:12.000 Like he fought Jason Wilness and head kicked him and then flying knee him in the head.

02:01:17.000 Jason Williams is a world champion, dude.

02:01:20.000 Like an elite world champion.

02:01:22.000 Good god, man.

02:01:22.000 I know they have to have that.

02:01:23.000 This is him against Dustin Jacobi.

02:01:25.000 Watch that left hook. 1.00

02:01:26.000 One more time.

02:01:28.000 That is fucking Crazy power, dude.

02:01:31.000 Look at this boom.

02:01:32.000 Look at that power.

02:01:33.000 It's just different, man.

02:01:34.000 There's every now and then a guy, you'll see a guy hit the bag, you'll see a guy hit pads, you see a guy punch someone in the ring, and you're like, what is he doing different?

02:01:42.000 That's Pereira.

02:01:43.000 Like maybe the best example in kickboxing I've ever seen.

02:01:47.000 Because everybody knocks guys out.

02:01:49.000 They're all killer strikers.

02:01:50.000 Right.

02:01:50.000 But his was different.

02:01:52.000 There was a finality to what he did to people.

02:01:54.000 Look at that.

02:01:55.000 Oh my god.

02:01:56.000 Yeah.

02:01:56.000 Ferocious.

02:01:57.000 Jesus Christ.

02:01:57.000 Bro, and these are big ass gloves, right?

02:01:59.000 Yeah.

02:02:00.000 These aren't MMA.

02:02:02.000 No, no, no, no.

02:02:02.000 They're 10.

02:02:03.000 They're tens.

02:02:03.000 Yeah, they're tens.

02:02:04.000 But then those also are world-class strikers, he's not going to be able to get away.

02:02:07.000 Yeah, this is Jason Wilness.

02:02:08.000 Look at this.

02:02:09.000 Oh my god.

02:02:10.000 Flying knee.

02:02:11.000 Those are world-class guys, bro.

02:02:12.000 Just in Wilmers is a world champion dude.

02:02:15.000 He head kicked him first, and then he flying knee to my God. 0.98

02:02:19.000 Bro.

02:02:19.000 Yeah, he's not doing the skins.

02:02:21.000 So no grappling.

02:02:22.000 I mean, he had zero grappling.

02:02:24.000 And in fact, he had one MMA fight, he got taken down and rearna get choked.

02:02:27.000 So that guy got taken down and rechoked, which highlights how fucking important grappling is.

02:02:32.000 Yeah, 100%.

02:02:33.000 Then he hooks up with Glover.

02:02:34.000 So that was the big thing.

02:02:36.000 Glover to Share teaches him how to wrestle at least a little bit.

02:02:39.000 Teaches, and then slowly over time you see it getting better and better inside the octagon.

02:02:43.000 Take down defense standing up, all that stuff.

02:02:46.000 But then you get to a certain point where there's not I don't give a fuck if Gorin's teaching whatever.

02:02:50.000 There's not enough hours in the day to make up that gap when you get to a certain level that you have to see.

02:02:55.000 Like for DDP, there's nothing we can do for him to beat Hamza.

02:02:59.000 There's not enough time in his life to be Hamza in wrestling.

02:03:02.000 He's not 21 years old.

02:03:03.000 We're like, uh not even if you get Russians in there and they're like, this is what you got to do. 1.00

02:03:06.000 He can definitely get better.

02:03:07.000 Yeah.

02:03:07.000 No doubt he can get better.

02:03:08.000 But Hamzad is extraordinary.

02:03:10.000 Yeah, he is.

02:03:10.000 He's extraordinary.

02:03:11.000 You can't make a big thing.

02:03:12.000 He said it wasn't his strength.

02:03:13.000 He said it's a good thing.

02:03:14.000 You think you can go in.

02:03:15.000 Yeah.

02:03:16.000 I think it's it's possible.

02:03:18.000 I have to pee before I watch this fight because I'm excited about the big thing.

02:03:20.000 I think one of the worst backgrounds to get into with MMA, unfortunately, is jujitsu with no wrestling and no striking.

02:03:28.000 Classical Jiu Jitsu.

02:03:29.000 Yeah, you fight.

02:03:30.000 I think if the worst because you have no ability to dictate where the where the fight goes.

02:03:35.000 Yep.

02:03:36.000 Uh so if if you if and there's also an agreed upon unspoken rule in jiu-jitsu, where one guy plays top, one guy plays bottom.

02:03:44.000 Correct.

02:03:44.000 Right.

02:03:44.000 And the way that the point system is set up in jiu-jitsu is that the guy on bottom stays on bottom, the guy on top tries to pass.

02:03:53.000 So they're showing a Hamzad highlight really here now.

02:03:58.000 I want his drive, sorry.

02:03:59.000 No, no, it's okay.

02:04:00.000 So go ahead.

02:04:01.000 Keep going.

02:04:02.000 So it's usually it's usually the guy on top is patty cake, paddy cake, paddy cake, opportunity, passes scores, backs away, paddy cake, paddy cake, passes scores.

02:04:11.000 So jujitsu guys never actually focus on holding anyone down.

02:04:14.000 Which is why when they actually go to fight people, they just have zero to build to keep them in bottom position.

02:04:19.000 And if you look at the finishers, like people are people are minimalists in jujitsu.

02:04:25.000 Whereas the ideal for jujitsu is a maximalist.

02:04:27.000 Like you do the minimum amount of work to win.

02:04:29.000 So they paddy cake, paddy cake, side control three points, and they stall for the rest of the match.

02:04:34.000 Whereas, whereas if you actually go in and you look at guys who actually work towards finality, then you have guys who are actually good finishers.

02:04:42.000 Um if you just combine all this, like even Hadolpha versus that guy Fluffy, is his nickname.

02:04:50.000 Like he got to good positions, like he mounted him, he took his back multiple times, but he spent his whole career just winning on points.

02:04:55.000 So when he actually went to finish him, like there's like it's just you don't have the mechanism.

02:04:59.000 It's fascinating that the rule set kind of it really kind of ruined a lot of what made jujitsu important.

02:05:07.000 Yeah.

02:05:08.000 The rule set did.

02:05:09.000 The number one thing that no one talks about in my career, which separates me, is the fact that when I put people in bottom position, no one ever stands up.

02:05:18.000 And if they do stand up, they've used so much energy standing up that it wasn't even worth the standup in the first place.

02:05:23.000 Like everyone that I fight knows by passing is so good, and they know my pins are so good.

02:05:27.000 Like they know that they if I get chess to chess and half guard and pass them, I'm gonna fetish them.

02:05:31.000 So everyone's like, I'm fucking getting up.

02:05:33.000 Like I spent like I fought Andre, I fought Yuri, I fought all these guys.

02:05:37.000 Like, no one everyone knows if I'm in bottom position, I'm gonna get my guard pass, and if I get my guard pass, I'm gonna get a finish.

02:05:42.000 So like I need to get up like my life depends on it.

02:05:45.000 And nobody even gets close.

02:05:47.000 And so, like, and and if they do it, sounds like bragging, but that's a hundred percent true.

02:05:54.000 Like, like when I fought Wagner, like you were there, like Wagner tried his absolute hardest to stand up when he was fresh, And just if you look at he fought everybody else, fought Craig, fought everyone else, he just kicks away, kicks in the hips, he fought MMA, kicks in the hips, stands up and he's back up.

02:06:07.000 And so it it doesn't allow you to keep pressure over time.

02:06:10.000 I just put him on bottom and then he just never got away.

02:06:12.000 And then the one time he did get away, it was so late in the match that he was so exhausted that I just let him up and then I just put him back in bottom position.

02:06:19.000 So no one talks about the fact that I can hold people down, but the number one issue with classical jiu-jitsu guys is that they never spend any time holding people down.

02:06:26.000 So when they first of all they can't take them down, and if they do get on top, the guy just stands up.

02:06:31.000 Yeah.

02:06:32.000 Yeah, and um also no striking at all.

02:06:36.000 So going into it with that, going into MMA with no ability to take a guy down, no real experience in holding guys down.

02:06:44.000 And then poor finish and poor finish.

02:06:47.000 So even if you even if you jump guard, for example, and you're in bottom because you never spent your time actually working on like submission finishing mechanics.

02:06:55.000 Right, this guy can't even finish him from bottom position.

02:06:57.000 Guys who win jujitsu tournaments that don't even attempt a submission.

02:07:00.000 Yeah.

02:07:00.000 They just get mount.

02:07:02.000 So if you're on top, which is unlikely because you can't take the guy down.

02:07:05.000 It's it's unlikely you're gonna hold top position.

02:07:07.000 And even if you are in bottom position, you're not dangerous enough to dangerous enough to actually finish the guy.

02:07:12.000 So it's like classical jiu-jitsu is just getting phased out, and we call it scrimmage wrestling.

02:07:16.000 Uh what the Dagastani guys are doing is is going to be phased in. 0.70

02:07:20.000 Like they just I like how someone was mocking you about scrimmage wrestling, and then it got used on it by Nikki.

02:07:25.000 Like, I'm not I'm not denying it's wrestling.

02:07:28.000 It's just a different kind of wrestling.

02:07:29.000 And if you look at every historical piece of information, like you look at Aaron Pico, took the guy down, he's an amazing, you know, classical American wrestler, couldn't hold him down.

02:07:40.000 Yeah, and then Hamza was like the next match.

02:07:42.000 He takes the guy down, rides in the whole, like had 23 minutes on top.

02:07:45.000 The only reason he didn't have like a full almost 25 minutes was because he got stood up like you know, midway through one of the rounds.

02:07:51.000 I think it was like 23 minutes of control time.

02:07:53.000 Like I'm not saying it's not wrestling, it's just a different kind of wrestling.

02:07:57.000 When you teach jujitsu, like when you start with somebody, how do you start from what is the what is the system?

02:08:03.000 How do you start?

02:08:03.000 Are they on the bottom first?

02:08:04.000 But wait, before you get to that, this the scrimmage wrestling thing, what I was getting to is like somebody was mocking that.

02:08:09.000 I was like, why are you mocking a term?

02:08:11.000 Like what are you trying to pretend he doesn't know what he's talking about?

02:08:13.000 Like seems crazy.

02:08:14.000 But then the exact same thing got done to him.

02:08:16.000 Yeah, correct.

02:08:17.000 He was he was like, Oh, like got done to him in the match with Nikki Rod.

02:08:21.000 That's hilarious.

02:08:22.000 It's like everyone everyone just thinks you could just come in as a collegiate freestyle wrestler and dominate, and that's just not the way.

02:08:28.000 Like, there's there's so many things in wrestling that work perfectly, there's so many things that don't work at all.

02:08:32.000 There's so many things that don't make sense to do.

02:08:34.000 Like a fireman's carry.

02:08:35.000 Like you hit a fireman's carry, next thing you know, the guy's in a crucifix on you.

02:08:38.000 Right.

02:08:38.000 Or he has your back or in your triangle.

02:08:40.000 Do you remember when Big Daddy Goodridge fought Paul Herrera?

02:08:43.000 Paul Herrera took him down, got him into fireman's carry, and Big Daddy Goodridge locked his legs up, locked his arm up, and elbowed him. 0.98

02:08:50.000 That was yeah, oh, I remember that.

02:08:54.000 It was fucking crazy.

02:08:55.000 So never do a fireman's carry that's a good one.

02:08:57.000 And it was back when there was it was here.

02:08:59.000 It is look at this.

02:08:59.000 Watch this.

02:09:00.000 This is back when there's no tapping either.

02:09:01.000 Look at this.

02:09:02.000 Oh my god, I remember this.

02:09:03.000 He was out right away.

02:09:04.000 The referee should have stopped this 80 elbows ago.

02:09:07.000 I mean, he's dead.

02:09:08.000 And by the way, stop.

02:09:10.000 Bro, it's a little extra here.

02:09:12.000 But they added extra to it, did they add it?

02:09:14.000 It says 50 elbows to the no, because they're it repeats itself here.

02:09:18.000 It's a loop.

02:09:19.000 But what is the actual number?

02:09:20.000 Let's see if we can find the actual just try find Big Daddy Goodridge. 0.98

02:09:23.000 Oh shit, we're watching Mauricio Rufi and St. Denis.

02:09:26.000 It's already started.

02:09:28.000 Well, these are nice.

02:09:29.000 Oh, Roofy just popped him with a jab. 0.99

02:09:30.000 These comedy mothership cigars are nice, Bubba.

02:09:32.000 Yeah, it's foundation cigars.

02:09:33.000 Shout out to them.

02:09:34.000 Okay, so now's this now.

02:09:35.000 This connection, like take down score is nothing.

02:09:37.000 Now can he actually hold him down from this position?

02:09:39.000 Well, Saint Denis is pretty good at holding guys down.

02:09:42.000 I mean, clearly not on your level of it, but he does have a very pressure.

02:09:46.000 And so you look like Ruffy does didn't even try, he just accepted bottom position.

02:09:51.000 So it was like there was like there's no like now he's trying to get up, but he's already guys got a big thing.

02:09:54.000 It's a great game plan by the Oh this is huge for him.

02:09:58.000 Full mount already.

02:10:01.000 He's going straight for the arm triangle.

02:10:03.000 He's going hard for it.

02:10:05.000 Look at this.

02:10:05.000 And if if you look at the pace, oh my god, I think he's gonna get it.

02:10:08.000 It's called leche de padre.

02:10:09.000 Bro, look at does it?

02:10:10.000 That's what it's milk.

02:10:12.000 Really?

02:10:12.000 You just bury him in his go?

02:10:15.000 I thought that was when you smother a guy.

02:10:16.000 Yeah, that's what that's what it looks like you're doing.

02:10:18.000 Well, no, this is arm triangle.

02:10:20.000 He's he's isolating the right arm.

02:10:22.000 What do you do?

02:10:22.000 Come out in a single leg, double leg?

02:10:27.000 Up to a body.

02:10:28.000 Mauricio's almost up.

02:10:30.000 Nope.

02:10:30.000 He's got a locked triangle.

02:10:32.000 Oh, he's got his back now.

02:10:33.000 Now he's got power half, or he's gonna get taken up.

02:10:36.000 Jeez.

02:10:38.000 This is terrible for Roofy.

02:10:40.000 Oh, shit, he's too high.

02:10:42.000 He's done.

02:10:43.000 He should have gone power half.

02:10:44.000 Now he can stand up.

02:10:46.000 Just stand up, Bubba.

02:10:47.000 What did he do instead of power half?

02:10:49.000 What did he uh he just he stay he stayed with two hands over the shoulders, and then the guy just kind of misaligned the body?

02:10:55.000 Okay, now so see, like he had a takedown and he he did he couldn't hold them down.

02:10:59.000 Right, and now they're back at their feet and Roosevelt Roofy's fucking dangerous at a distance, dude.

02:11:03.000 Look at that.

02:11:04.000 Nice knee to the body. 0.99

02:11:05.000 He's dangerous at a distance and nice.

02:11:06.000 Do you know how mentally fatiguing it is to put a guy down and not be able to do any damage?

02:11:10.000 And then it's not just physical.

02:11:12.000 It's like it's like I put this guy down and then he fucking got up on me and I couldn't do anything to him. 0.54

02:11:18.000 He's like some special forces French guy.

02:11:21.000 Yeah.

02:11:22.000 What is his uh exact military like what did what his experience whatever their fucking Delta team is over there?

02:11:29.000 Is that what he is?

02:11:29.000 Oh, he's one of those guys.

02:11:30.000 Their version of it.

02:11:31.000 Yeah, but there's like French are no joke.

02:11:33.000 He's no this dude's no joke.

02:11:34.000 He's an intense motherfucker.

02:11:35.000 He was uh thanking America for helping France in World War II in one of his post fight speeches.

02:11:40.000 Jesus.

02:11:41.000 Like I love America, you helped us in World War II.

02:11:44.000 Like, what's like what?

02:11:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:11:46.000 This guy's about here.

02:11:47.000 So he's got his back again.

02:11:48.000 He's got him.

02:11:49.000 French Army special.

02:11:50.000 He's got him down again.

02:11:51.000 Yeah.

02:11:53.000 So far, this is not a good round for Roofy.

02:11:56.000 So now we know about Roofy's grappling because what we've seen from him is just well, also Saint Denis is a beast.

02:12:02.000 He's a beast.

02:12:03.000 He's a beast.

02:12:04.000 Now that full mount again, Hoofy can survive this.

02:12:08.000 Arm triangle, arm triangle, trying to game plan by BDS.

02:12:11.000 Gordon, do you guys start with like traditional guard triangle or do you start?

02:12:16.000 So what what what kind of athlete am I trying to build?

02:12:18.000 Oh, it's like elite Brian Cowan stuff.

02:12:20.000 Brian Calvin.

02:12:21.000 Yeah.

02:12:22.000 Yeah.

02:12:22.000 If I'm if I'm trying to build an athlete from the ground up, yeah.

02:12:26.000 Um and I have time to work with him, I always start them in bottom position.

02:12:30.000 Right on his back bottom position is the hard is the hardest to learn.

02:12:33.000 Right.

02:12:34.000 Um most people start standing.

02:12:36.000 Standing is actually the last thing I teach them.

02:12:38.000 Really?

02:12:38.000 I start, yeah.

02:12:40.000 Because if you can get good submissions and good off balances from bottom position, uh good guard retention and good escapes, pin and submission escapes, those are the first things that I do.

02:12:49.000 So more guys asking you to come in their camp?

02:12:53.000 He's he's yelling at something.

02:12:54.000 He's complaining about something.

02:12:55.000 Roofy is complaining about something.

02:12:57.000 So he's holding the glove?

02:12:58.000 So he's holding something.

02:13:00.000 Yeah.

02:13:00.000 Uh he's holding shorts.

02:13:04.000 Hamzad asked me to train like uh so ago in Newport?

02:13:09.000 Uh no, he was in I was in Sweden.

02:13:11.000 I'm like, I'm not going to Sweden right now.

02:13:12.000 He does the camps in Newport now.

02:13:14.000 Yeah.

02:13:14.000 It's not too bad for you.

02:13:15.000 Yeah.

02:13:15.000 I'd be pretty much.

02:13:16.000 Okay, so actually train hard, it'll be great.

02:13:18.000 He had his hands in his shorts.

02:13:20.000 Yeah, he can't be doing that.

02:13:21.000 He's holding on to the shorts, I think.

02:13:24.000 Is that what he's saying, Jeremy?

02:13:25.000 I can't hear it.

02:13:26.000 Hopefully he's grabbing his dick. 0.63

02:13:27.000 Hopefully he's crab.

02:13:28.000 That was a fight once.

02:13:29.000 Uh bit with Big Daddy Goodrich as well.

02:13:31.000 He fought this dude the Pedro, and he reached his hand into the guy's junk and fucking crushes nuts. 0.89

02:13:36.000 No.

02:13:36.000 Yes, he did.

02:13:37.000 It was legal too.

02:13:38.000 In Brazil.

02:13:38.000 In Brazil, huh?

02:13:40.000 Yeah.

02:13:40.000 There was no rules back then.

02:13:41.000 He reached his hand and crushed the man's balls. 0.92

02:13:44.000 How bad do you want to win?

02:13:46.000 How bad do you want to win, bitch? 1.00

02:13:47.000 Oh god.

02:13:48.000 Is it true that uh is this just uh is this bullshit or when uh TD uh Drake is DuPless he had uh his finger in Kamzat's ass.

02:13:58.000 Is that true or comes out as a Ryan's on TikTok a lot?

02:14:02.000 I'm sorry, guys.

02:14:03.000 Excuse my fucking friends.

02:14:04.000 Okay, he's on the edit that out.

02:14:07.000 Fifty seconds left.

02:14:09.000 Oh, Roofy swinging.

02:14:12.000 But he's gotta be so exhausted now, and now he knows he can't get taken down.

02:14:16.000 Yeah.

02:14:16.000 Never seen Roofy like this before, man.

02:14:18.000 This is interesting.

02:14:21.000 Well, I mean, you gotta think of the guys that son Denis fought too.

02:14:23.000 He just fought Dustin Porrier.

02:14:25.000 Oh, yeah, strength of schedule.

02:14:27.000 Yeah.

02:14:27.000 St. Denise, way higher.

02:14:29.000 Hanato Moicano.

02:14:31.000 Yep.

02:14:32.000 He's fought some pretty elite guys.

02:14:33.000 He lost him my kind of right?

02:14:34.000 Yeah.

02:14:35.000 Yeah.

02:14:35.000 He got beat up.

02:14:36.000 He does.

02:14:36.000 But you see, like even this, like when you're standing, there's so much less that has to go wrong for a good guy to get beaten by a guy who's not who's much lesser.

02:14:44.000 Like when you're grappling someone, so much has to go wrong in order to lose to the guy who's who's worse than you.

02:14:50.000 So like if he if he took him down in the first 30 seconds of the round and he remained in top position, like just riding him, there would have been like almost zero danger in the round, which is like what could be Ben Hamzad do.

02:15:02.000 Correct.

02:15:02.000 Right.

02:15:02.000 Whereas in this guy, it's that last 50 seconds.

02:15:05.000 If you're here on the or you get knocked out.

02:15:11.000 Especially when you're tired.

02:15:12.000 That's the thing.

02:15:12.000 It's like you have to make choices.

02:15:14.000 Do I move now?

02:15:14.000 Am I too tired to explode out of the way?

02:15:17.000 I see him winding up.

02:15:18.000 Do I try a duck?

02:15:19.000 Like, what do I try?

02:15:20.000 You don't have that.

02:15:20.000 Like when Atama fought Dillion White, the in and out foot work.

02:15:25.000 Wow.

02:15:25.000 Woo!

02:15:26.000 That like after something like that, that shit's gone.

02:15:30.000 Right.

02:15:30.000 So you can't really get out of the way.

02:15:32.000 That's what he does.

02:15:33.000 St. Denise's banking.

02:15:34.000 Yeah.

02:15:34.000 Like let's draw even if I don't finish him, let's drain this fucking gas tank so his footwork's not as good, so he's not as dangerous on the feet.

02:15:40.000 But this is such a good test for Hoofy, because he really hasn't beat those high caliber guys yet.

02:15:45.000 It's such a good test.

02:15:46.000 Here's a real question.

02:15:47.000 Do you think that with guys like Marab and then Fluffy as well, but maybe to a slightly lesser extent?

02:15:52.000 Do you think what they're showing is that just like some people can do those 100 mile races, they're like Goggins and Cam Haynes does.

02:16:00.000 And that we think that a marathon is hard, but it's just because that's all you're trained for.

02:16:03.000 Correct.

02:16:04.000 But guys like Cam do a marathon literally every day.

02:16:06.000 Yeah.

02:16:06.000 And it's just you gotta go past where you think the boundary is.

02:16:12.000 And a guy like Marab can keep that kind of pace up for five minutes.

02:16:16.000 Because he's in that 100 mile running.

02:16:19.000 Yes.

02:16:19.000 You know what I mean?

02:16:20.000 Is he genetically gifted where he can do that?

02:16:22.000 Or is it just all mental?

02:16:24.000 He says not.

02:16:24.000 He says he used to smoke.

02:16:25.000 Well, he doesn't know any better.

02:16:27.000 That's true.

02:16:27.000 They say that like Prefontaine, those guys have uh harder bones in their feet and stuff like that.

02:16:32.000 Well, that's also from use though.

02:16:34.000 Yeah.

02:16:34.000 That's from use.

02:16:35.000 That's the same kind of thing.

02:16:36.000 Yeah, you get that from kickboxers.

02:16:37.000 Yeah.

02:16:41.000 So St. Denis, I'm sorry, I'm gonna say it.

02:16:43.000 His hands are down a lot of times.

02:16:45.000 He's close.

02:16:45.000 Oh, he just got elbowed hard.

02:16:47.000 He got elbowed hard.

02:16:48.000 Well, he's tired.

02:16:48.000 He gets reckless too.

02:16:49.000 He does get reckless.

02:16:50.000 Well, he's a very violent man.

02:16:52.000 Yeah.

02:16:52.000 But here he got down again.

02:16:54.000 He's down again.

02:16:55.000 He's down to train.

02:16:56.000 He's got it.

02:16:56.000 He's right.

02:16:57.000 He's down to train.

02:16:58.000 Oh, Roofy reversed him.

02:17:00.000 Oh, this is huge.

02:17:01.000 That means he's tired.

02:17:02.000 So he's like that was that's what I was talking about scrimmaging.

02:17:04.000 Yeah.

02:17:04.000 Like Roofy was just like I'm not accepting.

02:17:07.000 And every previous takedown, he was like, I'm accepting bottom position.

02:17:09.000 This time he was like, I'm not getting put on bottom.

02:17:11.000 And he just kept moving until he was in top position.

02:17:13.000 And now he's gonna let him stand up.

02:17:15.000 So it's like every time this happens, Ben Wall's in more and more trouble.

02:17:19.000 Yep.

02:17:19.000 He's just gotta be clean here and just don't get wild.

02:17:22.000 If Ben Wall gets his hands down, his his he's kicking with his hands down.

02:17:28.000 He's gonna get caught between these guys and a guy like Kabib. 0.89

02:17:31.000 Yeah.

02:17:32.000 Yes.

02:17:32.000 Saint Denis tried to take him down in the first round and tried to finish him in the first round.

02:17:37.000 So he he had more some more submission attempts and more he worked towards submission a lot more than like a guy could like like a Khabib would. 0.99

02:17:45.000 Um but now he's a lot more tired.

02:17:47.000 Like Kabib and Hamzat spend the first like if it's a five-round fight, the first like two to three rounds just riding the guy.

02:17:54.000 Like there's no submission attempts.

02:17:55.000 They're the sole focus is keep the guy down, control him, make him carry body weight.

02:18:00.000 You know, see this is the thing.

02:18:01.000 If you get to like 155 pounds and you're a striker, you know, that is at the weight where like most of these guys can knock each other the fuck out.

02:18:09.000 Like if this guy fought Ilya Taporia, he'd get knocked the fuck out.

02:18:12.000 Start right and or he could knock Ilya the fuck out.

02:18:15.000 Like it's so tight when you're at like a championship level and you're you're that fast and hit that hard.

02:18:22.000 That's a wild game.

02:18:23.000 What what you're saying, Gordon, is like it's it's so important for people to hear because that is the clearest pathway to success.

02:18:31.000 Like complete control on the ground, it's the least amount of damage you take.

02:18:35.000 Right.

02:18:35.000 It's safest post-career.

02:18:37.000 Correct.

02:18:38.000 Yes.

02:18:39.000 Saint Denis, look at this.

02:18:41.000 Look at this.

02:18:43.000 Look at this.

02:18:45.000 That's not fun.

02:18:45.000 He's got a lot of time.

02:18:46.000 How much time is this?

02:18:47.000 Two and a half minutes.

02:18:47.000 Oh, fuck that.

02:18:48.000 He's gonna pull the hand down.

02:18:49.000 If he pulls the hand down, he's gonna be able to do that.

02:18:50.000 Underneath his chin.

02:18:52.000 He's battling it.

02:18:53.000 Ooh, that is close though, Jack.

02:18:56.000 Oh, he's putting the squeeze on the jaw.

02:19:00.000 That's got that's just no.

02:19:03.000 If he starts turning belly up, oh he's out, he taps.

02:19:07.000 Oh, Benoit Saint Denis.

02:19:09.000 That is the biggest win of his career.

02:19:10.000 Yep.

02:19:10.000 Oh, my friend.

02:19:11.000 Right in France.

02:19:12.000 Yeah, that's a huge win.

02:19:14.000 That is fucking.

02:19:14.000 And that's the first loss for the fighting nerds.

02:19:16.000 Yeah, and that's a big one, man.

02:19:18.000 That's a big one.

02:19:20.000 Roofy was the ninja.

02:19:21.000 Yeah.

02:19:21.000 You know, Roofy was the guy that hit Bobby Green with that wheel kick.

02:19:26.000 Yeah.

02:19:26.000 And Roofy was the one at this.

02:19:28.000 Yeah, he's he's gotta be feeling it right now.

02:19:30.000 I mean, that's his boy.

02:19:31.000 And then his and then the captain of the nerds is fighting the main event.

02:19:34.000 Benoit just started shooting at the ground.

02:19:35.000 He could have turned out because he was actually budged against the fence, so he wouldn't have been able to follow up.

02:19:41.000 That dude's a fucking beast.

02:19:42.000 Good for him.

02:19:43.000 Good for him.

02:19:44.000 Yeah, he's a beast.

02:19:46.000 And the thing is, it's like he didn't get deterred from his losses either.

02:19:49.000 You know, he gets beat up by Waikano, didn't get deterred, beat up by uh by Dustin Poirier.

02:19:55.000 He loses both those, then he wins that last one.

02:19:56.000 That last one he didn't look great.

02:19:58.000 Strong minded.

02:20:02.000 That's big for him.

02:20:03.000 I wonder this.

02:20:04.000 Well, maybe we don't know how good Roofy is, you know.

02:20:07.000 Yeah, well, we know I'm going to be a standing.

02:20:09.000 You know, he just got submitted.

02:20:10.000 Sending he was working on his wrestling a lot, I think, here.

02:20:12.000 Well, he's he started his background was judo initially.

02:20:17.000 Really good grappling.

02:20:18.000 You know, not fighting MMA that long.

02:20:20.000 He's only been fighting MMA for a few years.

02:20:22.000 Wow.

02:20:23.000 Really?

02:20:23.000 Oh yeah.

02:20:24.000 Damn.

02:20:24.000 And really didn't start striking until later.

02:20:27.000 God.

02:20:27.000 Yeah, he's kind of a freak, man.

02:20:29.000 I asked him in a post post-fight speech.

02:20:31.000 I said, like, how did you get so good so quick?

02:20:34.000 Like I thought maybe like he'd have some insight.

02:20:36.000 I don't think he understood what I was saying.

02:20:38.000 But that is uh that is kind of remarkable.

02:20:40.000 Uniquely violent man.

02:20:41.000 Yeah.

02:20:41.000 You know?

02:20:42.000 He's used to violence.

02:20:43.000 Yeah, it's a different like level of understanding of violence.

02:20:46.000 Yeah.

02:20:46.000 Oh, what did you pulled up his background, Jamie?

02:20:48.000 What is his background?

02:20:48.000 Look at shooting people back.

02:20:50.000 Look at this.

02:20:51.000 And cutting throats.

02:20:52.000 He's no joke.

02:20:53.000 I'll fuck you up.

02:20:54.000 First Marine Infantry Paratroopers Regiment, unit of the French Army Special Forces Command.

02:20:59.000 He served as a special French special air service operator in Maui.

02:21:04.000 During the war, and more generally in West Africa, fighting terrorist groups.

02:21:08.000 That's an elite motherfucker, right?

02:21:09.000 Fighting terrorists.

02:21:10.000 Boca Haram and stuff.

02:21:11.000 Terrorist groups in West Africa.

02:21:12.000 Yeah.

02:21:14.000 Rice.

02:21:14.000 Yeah.

02:21:14.000 So that's why he's so fucking violent.

02:21:16.000 Yeah.

02:21:17.000 So he and he's only started in uh combat sports.

02:21:22.000 Well, I think he had a ju uh judo career before that, though.

02:21:27.000 This is I think he did judo first, right?

02:21:30.000 When he was younger, didn't he?

02:21:32.000 Does it say anything before that?

02:21:34.000 Yeah, practiced judo.

02:21:36.000 Yeah.

02:21:36.000 At a good level.

02:21:37.000 His mother was a teacher.

02:21:39.000 His father was a oh, French army officer practiced judo.

02:21:42.000 So he trained in judo in France and Germany at the age of eight.

02:21:46.000 Okay.

02:21:46.000 Yeah.

02:21:47.000 Yeah, at the age of a age of eight, and learned a black belt.

02:21:50.000 Doesn't say at the age of eight, he got a black belt.

02:21:52.000 It's that he beginning at the age of eight.

02:21:55.000 And then he earned his black belt.

02:21:56.000 He played football in rugby in his youth.

02:21:58.000 So he's a beast.

02:21:59.000 I mean, fucking violent thing.

02:22:04.000 He's been moving his body high level for a long time.

02:22:06.000 Yeah.

02:22:07.000 Violent dude.

02:22:08.000 Rugby.

02:22:09.000 Yeah, but he's also killing dudes in West Africa.

02:22:11.000 Killing dudes in West Africa.

02:22:13.000 If you're SAS guy like that, you were doing that.

02:22:15.000 Yeah, he looks like it.

02:22:16.000 Like when you talk to him.

02:22:19.000 It's a very different consideration.

02:22:20.000 Also, by the way, when you're in wartime like that, you're not as nervous.

02:22:24.000 You don't expend a lot of energy, you know, with the nerves beforehand.

02:22:27.000 You have more energy.

02:22:28.000 Well, it's like what you've seen is so much worse than what you're about to do, right?

02:22:32.000 You're just gonna go into a fight.

02:22:34.000 Yeah.

02:22:34.000 And it's probably the only job that you can do in you know, in actual combat.

02:22:38.000 Which gets you fighting the Jews. 0.98

02:22:40.000 You're like, that's whatever.

02:22:41.000 Yeah.

02:22:42.000 Name another job you can do where it's gonna get you ready like that.

02:22:45.000 Yeah.

02:22:46.000 Everything's a step down.

02:22:47.000 Nothing.

02:22:48.000 Yeah, that's the only thing that's gonna make you calm.

02:22:50.000 Fuck.

02:22:51.000 Having survived war and then fighting in the Octa gun is a cake walk.

02:22:55.000 Yep.

02:22:56.000 Especially to make it in that elite division.

02:22:58.000 Well, think about what Francis went through.

02:23:00.000 You know, think about what that guy went through.

02:23:02.000 Didn't he walk through the desert?

02:23:03.000 He walked through the desert like seven times, dude.

02:23:05.000 They kept arresting him and bringing him back to the desert.

02:23:08.000 Fuck.

02:23:08.000 Yeah.

02:23:09.000 They try to they literally try to kill you.

02:23:11.000 Yeah.

02:23:11.000 They try to take you when they capture you in Morocco and then drop you off deep in the desert.

02:23:16.000 And then every time he'd get a ride back.

02:23:18.000 God.

02:23:19.000 He did it seven times.

02:23:20.000 Over like a long time, like over a year.

02:23:22.000 A year and a half or something, as a homeless person.

02:23:24.000 Yeah, there's not gonna be a good quiet in that guy.

02:23:27.000 No, no, no.

02:23:28.000 He's been spark the desert fuck face. 0.66

02:23:30.000 He was living outside with like a tarp, and then when he got to France, he told me he was living in a parking garage.

02:23:36.000 He was sleeping in a parking garage.

02:23:38.000 He can't compete.

02:23:38.000 Dude, how about his fucking luck, right?

02:23:40.000 His son passes away, which is horrible.

02:23:43.000 And then he's riding a motorcycle, hits a young lady, she passes away.

02:23:46.000 Yeah.

02:23:46.000 It's fucking terrible.

02:23:47.000 Horrible.

02:23:49.000 It's so scary.

02:23:52.000 But it's like think about what that guy's been through, and then like what what is a fight for him?

02:23:56.000 You know?

02:23:56.000 Yeah.

02:23:57.000 But even he, after the Steep Amyochich fight, he was kind of fucked up in the head. 0.97

02:24:01.000 Hell yeah.

02:24:02.000 And like when he fought Derek Lewis, like barely engaged.

02:24:04.000 Yeah.

02:24:05.000 We thought that fight was gonna be Kros. 1.00

02:24:08.000 We were like, here we go.

02:24:09.000 We were like, this one's gonna be chaos.

02:24:11.000 I think my prediction was this won't go past two minutes.

02:24:13.000 Yeah, I thought it was gonna be hammered.

02:24:16.000 Like the fight.

02:24:17.000 That was the modern day crazy Houston Alexander and Kimbo.

02:24:20.000 Yeah.

02:24:23.000 That's right.

02:24:24.000 Yeah.

02:24:24.000 That was a very disappointing fight.

02:24:27.000 But then he came back after and started starching fools again.

02:24:29.000 Yeah.

02:24:30.000 Who did he knock out first?

02:24:31.000 Was it Junior or Kane?

02:24:34.000 Junior, right?

02:24:34.000 Junior Del Santos.

02:24:36.000 Yeah.

02:24:36.000 He beat he beat the brakes off a junior.

02:24:38.000 And then he KO'd Kane.

02:24:40.000 Well, Kane's leg.

02:24:40.000 And he KO's King.

02:24:41.000 Did he hit him first and then Kane's leg went, or did Kane's leg go and then get hit?

02:24:45.000 I think he hit him with an uppercut.

02:24:46.000 And his and Kane had some knee problems for quite a while.

02:24:50.000 You know, I mean, Kane's body kind of like was not strong enough for his mind.

02:24:55.000 Well, his uh his cage.

02:24:58.000 Wasn't his spine in a cage?

02:25:00.000 I think they had to do some crazy surgery on him.

02:25:03.000 But the most important thing he had a butt, yeah.

02:25:05.000 They posted a picture of him.

02:25:07.000 You know he has a gray beard.

02:25:07.000 He looks no good with him.

02:25:09.000 How long is he in prison for?

02:25:10.000 Supposed to get on, I want to say January.

02:25:14.000 It's crazy that they made him go to jail at all.

02:25:16.000 And any more than he already went.

02:25:17.000 Yeah.

02:25:18.000 It's just because he was I mean, he shot the wrong guy, right?

02:25:20.000 Yeah.

02:25:21.000 He shot the stepdad who's also a creep, but he was firing the gun into the public places, like on the highway, so he's going into the bigger.

02:25:27.000 Can't really do that shit.

02:25:28.000 Can't have that.

02:25:29.000 So that's where they got him.

02:25:29.000 I can't have that with him.

02:25:30.000 Yeah, that's a bad idea.

02:25:31.000 You don't want to encourage that.

02:25:32.000 Also, if I'm Kane, I have his skill set.

02:25:34.000 Fuck a gun, dude.

02:25:35.000 Don't you want to hurt this dude with your bare hands?

02:25:38.000 I think he wanted to kill him.

02:25:39.000 Yeah, do it with your hands.

02:25:40.000 Yeah.

02:25:40.000 I mean, at least plan it a little better.

02:25:42.000 Yeah.

02:25:42.000 Like if he planned it a little better, they may he may have gotten off.

02:25:44.000 I think it was rage.

02:25:45.000 I think he found out and he just went, I'm gonna go kill this guy.

02:25:48.000 So yeah, for sure.

02:25:50.000 I mean, how could you not have that kind of thing?

02:25:51.000 100% understand.

02:25:52.000 I I get it.

02:25:53.000 But he didn't kill the guy and now he's in jail.

02:25:55.000 So it's I know.

02:25:57.000 That's true.

02:25:59.000 And the guy got out before Kane did.

02:26:01.000 The guy was out in the street before Kane was.

02:26:02.000 Like if you're gonna kill the guy, fucking.

02:26:04.000 Put him in the same cell block as Kane.

02:26:07.000 Here's your new roommate.

02:26:08.000 Enjoy this.

02:26:09.000 Guy like that has to be in protective custody, right?

02:26:11.000 They'd have to hide him.

02:26:12.000 Yeah, you touch kids.

02:26:13.000 Yeah.

02:26:14.000 He touched kids, you get in jail.

02:26:16.000 They want to get you.

02:26:18.000 But even when he gets out, he's out now.

02:26:20.000 He has to go into hiding.

02:26:22.000 The street to get him.

02:26:23.000 Especially Kane.

02:26:24.000 The way he's connected.

02:26:25.000 Good luck, bud.

02:26:25.000 Enjoy the rest of your life, you fucking creep.

02:26:27.000 Yeah, it's a horrible, horrible, horrible story.

02:26:30.000 I don't think he should ever get out, but so Kane back to his the physical issues.

02:26:35.000 Like he had like shoulder problems, knee problems, back problems, neck problems.

02:26:41.000 And it was just like that guy trained so hard.

02:26:44.000 All those boys did DC, Kabi, Brock Hole, Rock Hall, Josh Thompson.

02:26:48.000 Like their team was a good thing.

02:26:49.000 They used to go full, too.

02:26:50.000 Well, they were so good too.

02:26:53.000 You know, such a young Makachev was there, like the monsters, man. 1.00

02:26:57.000 Yeah.

02:26:58.000 Yeah, and if you just think about like Kane and his prime, though, like when he beat Nog. 1.00

02:27:02.000 Best heavyweight ever, I think.

02:27:03.000 One of them.

02:27:04.000 The the the real travesty is that we never got to see Kane versus Fedor in their prime.

02:27:09.000 Yeah.

02:27:10.000 That was the real travesty.

02:27:11.000 That would have been the fight.

02:27:12.000 You know, that is, you know, that's that's the that's like the fight.

02:27:17.000 That's the one where you go, yeah, if there was one fight I could have made, yeah, that would have been it.

02:27:21.000 Kane in his prime versus Fedor in his prime.

02:27:24.000 Because their primes overlap, too.

02:27:28.000 Well, Fedor's kind of towards the end, though, but he's still good.

02:27:31.000 He was still pretty fucking good when Kane was when Kane was coming up and Kane became the champ.

02:27:36.000 Fedor was still fatal.

02:27:37.000 How would Fedor do now, you think?

02:27:38.000 But he's, you know, in the Oh, if he was in his young fader.

02:27:42.000 Young Feder's gonna fuck people up in any generation. 0.99

02:27:44.000 Right now, you look at the heavyweight division, like you have Aspenum, there's a power drop-off.

02:27:48.000 Like the heavyweight's never been.

02:27:49.000 However, we don't even know how good Aspinal is.

02:27:51.000 Like every fight he's had.

02:27:52.000 And the poor guy, the poor, he just can became champion at the wrong time.

02:27:56.000 There's just nothing for him to prove himself.

02:27:58.000 He's also so much bigger.

02:27:59.000 Like a guy like Aspinal is his frame is so much bigger than Fedor's, I think, right?

02:28:05.000 Yeah.

02:28:06.000 He's a big basketball.

02:28:07.000 He's a lot bigger.

02:28:08.000 265 or something?

02:28:09.000 He's a lot bigger, but Phaedor was a special fighter.

02:28:12.000 He was special too.

02:28:13.000 You need to watch like his defense when he fought CroCop.

02:28:15.000 You ever see the Cocop?

02:28:16.000 They're both prime.

02:28:18.000 He was Throcock was throwing those power high kicks, and he would lift his knee all the way up here and catch it. 0.82

02:28:24.000 He was catching a lot of the body kicks on his knee.

02:28:27.000 He was his defense in that fight was amazing.

02:28:30.000 It was a somebody made a compilation of Fedor's defense that fight, like when Krokop hits him with a body kick, he takes out his his supporting leg.

02:28:38.000 He was so good in his and he could submit guys like that too.

02:28:41.000 He'd catch arm bars out of nowhere.

02:28:43.000 Like he had a fully multifaceted game.

02:28:46.000 So insane.

02:28:47.000 Probably the best so explosive too.

02:28:49.000 The best guy in the heavyweight division ever that could do that, that can transition from a knockout blow to a triangle choke or an arm bar, just like that.

02:28:59.000 He like when he catches arm bars, he would catch him.

02:29:01.000 Boom.

02:29:02.000 Boom.

02:29:02.000 Yes, they were so fast.

02:29:04.000 So fast.

02:29:05.000 He was probably the best heavyweight ever of that.

02:29:08.000 Don't you think?

02:29:08.000 Yeah, and the training.

02:29:09.000 The guy who could do both of those things, like lightning with lightning speed.

02:29:13.000 He was so good, dude.

02:29:15.000 Those Nogara fights, oh my god.

02:29:16.000 That was when Nogara was in his prime, son.

02:29:19.000 Nogara was in his prime, and Fedor just could not be denied.

02:29:22.000 His grounding pound was fucking terrifying.

02:29:25.000 The best.

02:29:25.000 Yeah, the best.

02:29:26.000 He was remembering he fought he fought um Orlovsky, who was training with Freddie Roach.

02:29:32.000 His boxing was great.

02:29:33.000 And then Fedor just caught him, man.

02:29:35.000 No, Orlovsky was winning that fight.

02:29:37.000 I knew he tried to fight.

02:29:38.000 I know, I know.

02:29:39.000 And he was like, fucking God.

02:29:41.000 Bro, he caught him in the air with a picture perfect right hand.

02:29:44.000 And he'd walk out like he just finished playing cards, Federer.

02:29:46.000 It wasn't even warmed up.

02:29:47.000 He'd just walk out like I just finished playing cards.

02:29:48.000 I'm gonna I'm gonna beat this guy.

02:29:50.000 Even in mid-battle, dude, his expression would never change.

02:29:53.000 Never change.

02:29:53.000 You've just seen that doing slow motion when Kevin Randleman's throwing him on his head and he's just like dead eyes.

02:30:00.000 Just relaxed midair.

02:30:01.000 He's all been here before.

02:30:03.000 Never freaked out.

02:30:04.000 And then within a minute, he can work.

02:30:06.000 And then isn't that weird his brother just wasn't as good?

02:30:09.000 No.

02:30:09.000 His brother was a wild man.

02:30:11.000 But just not his bad.

02:30:14.000 His brother had better tattoo.

02:30:16.000 It's better to be connected.

02:30:17.000 His brother had tattoo of the grim reaper holding the baby.

02:30:19.000 Yeah, yo.

02:30:20.000 Did you ever see that?

02:30:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:30:21.000 Bro.

02:30:22.000 Bro.

02:30:23.000 That guy's in some dope.

02:30:24.000 Scary shit.

02:30:25.000 Yeah, there was a lot of dark tattoos that dude had.

02:30:27.000 Yeah, he was scary.

02:30:28.000 Suspect.

02:30:29.000 Remember when he fought James Thompson, James Thompson came out screwed.

02:30:32.000 James Thompson, an animal.

02:30:34.000 He came out fucking.

02:30:35.000 And El Emilian Echo just picked him apart.

02:30:38.000 Pop up.

02:30:39.000 There was another big Brazilian cat, too.

02:30:41.000 Remember that other dude that he flatlined in a similar way?

02:30:44.000 Big Brazilian guy who was a heavyweight.

02:30:46.000 Yeah, I know he's gonna be a good one.

02:30:47.000 I don't know his name, but yeah.

02:30:49.000 But he flatlined that guy too.

02:30:50.000 Watching what it takes.

02:30:51.000 What he does now.

02:30:53.000 I think he was in legal trouble.

02:30:56.000 Who is this?

02:30:57.000 Alexander Emilianeko.

02:30:58.000 Fedor's brother apparently is a wild fellow.

02:31:00.000 He got in some trouble.

02:31:01.000 He's a wild fella.

02:31:02.000 He served some time.

02:31:03.000 But I think Fedor is super close to a Putin.

02:31:06.000 Oh yeah.

02:31:07.000 He could probably not be.

02:31:08.000 Yeah, he probably calls him and he's like, hey, my brother fucked up again.

02:31:10.000 Is there any way uh maybe?

02:31:12.000 I don't know.

02:31:12.000 Because uh that Chechstein guy was mad at him once.

02:31:16.000 Oh yeah, Kardiov.

02:31:19.000 He was mad because Fedor criticized them having young kids fight each other.

02:31:24.000 Oh, interesting.

02:31:26.000 Did you see Hamza when he got his belt and flew back to Chechnya?

02:31:29.000 And he gave that warload the belt belt.

02:31:31.000 And he was wearing it.

02:31:32.000 Like he was like, thanks, dude.

02:31:33.000 And then kept it.

02:31:34.000 Yeah.

02:31:35.000 Yeah, that guy's been sanctioned by like more countries than any other ruler.

02:31:39.000 Like he's not uh he's kind of a wild guy to be friends with.

02:31:42.000 Yeah, yeah, I would imagine.

02:31:43.000 Like the biggest mafia lords.

02:31:45.000 Did you ever see him in Halms out roll?

02:31:46.000 No.

02:31:47.000 Oh, yes, I had.

02:31:47.000 Yeah, I didn't know that.

02:31:49.000 I did.

02:31:49.000 Bro, how about Hamzad and Sarukian rolling?

02:31:52.000 Yeah.

02:31:52.000 Sarukian.

02:31:54.000 Very Sarukian very good.

02:31:56.000 That's the guy that Taporia is gonna have all his all the problems with.

02:31:59.000 All the problems.

02:32:00.000 Yeah, Sarukian is.

02:32:01.000 It's his toughest fight.

02:32:02.000 That's his toughest fight.

02:32:03.000 Well, Sarukian will still be favored, though. 0.97

02:32:04.000 Really, really favorite?

02:32:06.000 No, I know he is.

02:32:07.000 Yeah.

02:32:07.000 Taporia will be.

02:32:08.000 Yes.

02:32:10.000 He's got two erasers.

02:32:11.000 Yeah.

02:32:12.000 Yeah.

02:32:12.000 He's got two erasers.

02:32:13.000 And he grew up wrestling.

02:32:15.000 Yeah.

02:32:15.000 Sarukian can also strike though in his wrestling.

02:32:18.000 Oh, not like Topier, yeah.

02:32:19.000 His striking's pretty good.

02:32:20.000 His striking's good.

02:32:21.000 Not as good.

02:32:22.000 Nobody on this planet would say it's as good as Topier is.

02:32:25.000 I think I think we can get a problems.

02:32:27.000 Yeah.

02:32:27.000 Would you put your money on uh Taporia though in that fight?

02:32:30.000 Uh I wouldn't put money on that fight.

02:32:32.000 I'd say with Tapore had to listen, Tsuruki knocks people out.

02:32:36.000 He's very good striker.

02:32:37.000 But what Tapuria has is that weird power.

02:32:40.000 Yeah.

02:32:40.000 The same thing we were talking about Pereira, he's got that weird power.

02:32:43.000 He does get hit though.

02:32:43.000 But he's he does get hit, but he wants to get hit.

02:32:45.000 He wants to throw himself in there so he can get those counters off because he knows when his land so in that sense you haven't seen those kind of fights.

02:32:54.000 Like what he he stopped three legends in a row.

02:32:57.000 Legends, legends in a row.

02:32:59.000 Shot him off.

02:32:59.000 Max Holloway's never been knocked out.

02:33:01.000 It's one of the greatest three fighting.

02:33:04.000 Striking.

02:33:05.000 I think Sarukian's, I would I would probably say for Sarukian's wrestling will get the job done.

02:33:09.000 We're not talking about wrestling.

02:33:10.000 And it might be a boring fight.

02:33:11.000 We're not talking about wrestling, though.

02:33:12.000 Dude, to go from striking is to go from knocking out Volkonovsky to knocking out Max Holloway to knocking out Oliveira.

02:33:20.000 That is the greatest three fight win streak in the history of sports.

02:33:22.000 KOs, all flat lines.

02:33:25.000 That's different.

02:33:26.000 Yeah.

02:33:26.000 But Sarukian doesn't get hit a lot.

02:33:28.000 He's a really good wrestler.

02:33:30.000 His transition is big for the weight class.

02:33:33.000 Yes.

02:33:33.000 Which is probably why they fucked up in the last one when he got pulled from the fight.

02:33:38.000 That's right.

02:33:38.000 Because he's probably cutting too much weight.

02:33:40.000 But the knock on Saruka would be when he fought Charles Oliveira, who Topir just starched.

02:33:45.000 Yeah.

02:33:45.000 Is if that was a five-round fight, he probably would have lost it.

02:33:49.000 Interesting.

02:33:50.000 Look at this.

02:33:50.000 But Surgen's definitely as tough as that.

02:33:53.000 Oh my God.

02:33:54.000 Yeah.

02:33:54.000 Hit him twice.

02:33:55.000 Oh.

02:33:56.000 Bro.

02:33:56.000 Like nobody's ever done that to Oliveira like that at 55.

02:34:00.000 The last time he got KO'd like that was Cub Swanson, probably.

02:34:04.000 Old school.

02:34:05.000 Remember that?

02:34:05.000 Yeah.

02:34:06.000 That's right.

02:34:06.000 There was a time where Charles Oliver was just not all in.

02:34:10.000 He just wasn't like fully focused.

02:34:11.000 He had like quit in him.

02:34:12.000 I thought once you show signs of quit, you're fucked.

02:34:15.000 He found it somewhere else.

02:34:16.000 He had found it.

02:34:17.000 Yeah, he found a very interesting like psychological study.

02:34:21.000 Most guys that are at that level that quit like that overtly, like don't make it.

02:34:27.000 It never comes back.

02:34:28.000 He's the one guy.

02:34:29.000 He turned it around.

02:34:29.000 And I held it against him forever.

02:34:33.000 I never picked him.

02:34:34.000 Once I know a guy that has quit in him, I'm like, I'm out.

02:34:37.000 I never picked him.

02:34:38.000 And then he kept proving me wrong.

02:34:39.000 Yeah.

02:34:40.000 Yeah, he's an extraordinary case.

02:34:42.000 Very unusual case.

02:34:43.000 So Sarukian and Taboria would be the fight. 0.98

02:34:46.000 But the thing is, like, I almost think the general public doesn't know enough about Saruk.

02:34:50.000 That's that's true.

02:34:51.000 I almost would say, like, listen, you fucked up, you didn't make weight.

02:34:55.000 You're probably a little too big, fella.

02:34:57.000 Um, why don't we give you one more contender?

02:35:00.000 They did that.

02:35:01.000 Put on a show.

02:35:01.000 They're giving him a fight.

02:35:02.000 Who they give him.

02:35:03.000 So they're not giving it.

02:35:04.000 I think it's Hooker.

02:35:06.000 That's a good one.

02:35:06.000 Oh, that's a good one.

02:35:07.000 That's a good one.

02:35:09.000 Is is uh that's a good one.

02:35:10.000 Who is Hooker's a dangerous guy? 1.00

02:35:12.000 Is this gonna be a five-rounder?

02:35:13.000 I don't know.

02:35:14.000 Who is Hooker? 1.00

02:35:15.000 Hooker would take into some D water. 1.00

02:35:17.000 Yeah.

02:35:18.000 That Hooker Poirier fight, that's an all-time class.

02:35:22.000 Crazy.

02:35:22.000 That was a classic.

02:35:23.000 Five-round made of that.

02:35:24.000 Oh, there it is.

02:35:26.000 UFC Qatar.

02:35:27.000 Qatar's bringing that loot. 0.95

02:35:29.000 Damn.

02:35:31.000 What is Hooker ranked right now? 1.00

02:35:33.000 He's in the top ten, I believe.

02:35:34.000 What is uh Dan Hooker?

02:35:36.000 I'm actually kind of surprised at that fight.

02:35:37.000 What is Dan Hooker ranked?

02:35:40.000 Dan remembers he's another one of those dudes.

02:35:42.000 It's just like C TV.

02:35:44.000 He's a dog.

02:35:44.000 He just wants to fight.

02:35:46.000 He's a guy who do bare knuckle.

02:35:47.000 Yeah, he'll do anything.

02:35:48.000 Yeah, he's down for whatever.

02:35:50.000 He got the win over um scam rot.

02:35:53.000 That was a great fight.

02:35:54.000 Yeah.

02:35:55.000 He was scheduled to fight Justin Gagey early this year before withdrawing due to hand injury.

02:36:01.000 Yeah, he hurt his hand, remember?

02:36:02.000 Pulled out.

02:36:03.000 Yeah.

02:36:04.000 That's right.

02:36:05.000 He's a dog.

02:36:06.000 Dude, I watched that um Strickman fight with uh with uh Imov.

02:36:10.000 Yeah.

02:36:10.000 Wow.

02:36:11.000 Rockin' sock and robots.

02:36:13.000 Strickland melts guys.

02:36:14.000 He did.

02:36:15.000 He puts a pace on guys.

02:36:16.000 I love the way he fights.

02:36:17.000 Fuck.

02:36:17.000 He constantly pushed pressure on you and he's constantly got you moving backwards.

02:36:21.000 Hard to hit slips, you know, all that.

02:36:23.000 What Gordon is talking about with grappling, Strickland employs a lot of that same sort of strategy with the striking.

02:36:28.000 Like he keeps you backing up all the time.

02:36:30.000 Yeah.

02:36:30.000 There's a there's a factor to it.

02:36:32.000 Obviously, you Pereira knocked him out.

02:36:35.000 He's more susceptible.

02:36:36.000 He's not in control of the situation when you have wild strikes coming your way.

02:36:40.000 But by always having you back up, you're gonna get way more tired.

02:36:43.000 Nobody runs backwards.

02:36:45.000 He's a pressure fighter.

02:36:46.000 Yeah, it's right in your head.

02:36:47.000 Yeah, it's weird.

02:36:48.000 He's a pressure fighter, but he doesn't have the power.

02:36:50.000 You know, like he's a pressure fighter who creates volume.

02:36:53.000 But look at Nick Nick and Nate, Nick and Nate did the same thing.

02:36:55.000 Like they're not knocking guys out left and right, but they're just constantly walking you down.

02:36:59.000 And they have better cardio.

02:37:00.000 Yeah.

02:37:00.000 And it's like the thing is, it's like all he has to do is just keep hitting you at 50%.

02:37:05.000 Yeah if he hits you a lot at 50%.

02:37:08.000 And really hard to hit, man.

02:37:09.000 That shoulder roll thing.

02:37:10.000 Yeah, I'm surprised he's not taken down more, but his takedown defense, he's way harder than that.

02:37:14.000 If you look at if you look at most of the champions, they have one thing that they're better than almost everybody else in the world at, and they're good sufficiently good at everything else.

02:37:23.000 Yes.

02:37:23.000 Strickland's not better than anybody at anything.

02:37:27.000 Like he's not the best striker, he's not the best wrestler.

02:37:29.000 He's that, but he just has pressure.

02:37:31.000 Right.

02:37:31.000 Like there's so much can be said for just walking a guy down and putting pressure now.

02:37:36.000 Obviously, like a guy like Pereira is used to it.

02:37:39.000 Yeah.

02:37:39.000 Uh So he countered him as he was coming in.

02:37:42.000 But like for most guys, he just walks him down and puts pressure.

02:37:44.000 Like, dude, Khabib.

02:37:46.000 Does not be just like literally walks that guy.

02:37:48.000 So he hasn't even shuffle.

02:37:49.000 Like look at the Khabib versus Edson Barboza. 0.84

02:37:51.000 Like he knew that Edson wanted to keep him at range to kick him.

02:37:55.000 So he literally, he literally just walked at him.

02:37:57.000 So that Edson couldn't shuffle back fast enough, and he was 100% exhausted, like inside of a round or two.

02:38:02.000 Yeah.

02:38:03.000 This is this is exciting.

02:38:04.000 It's very exciting.

02:38:06.000 I spent a lot of pressure on Imam Volve fighting in France.

02:38:09.000 Well, and plus you know if you put on a good performance, you can fight for the title.

02:38:13.000 Yeah, you're next.

02:38:14.000 Like Dana didn't commit because he's it's basically a four-man middleweight tournament.

02:38:18.000 So Dana's not committing.

02:38:19.000 So he's letting them put on a show.

02:38:21.000 He's saying who wants it more.

02:38:22.000 Right.

02:38:22.000 He's a big one.

02:38:23.000 If you do it by decision, which most of these guys aren't finishers, these two aren't.

02:38:27.000 Well, him knocking out Adasanya like that was crazy.

02:38:30.000 I did not expect that.

02:38:31.000 I thought that was going to be a close fight.

02:38:32.000 That was tough.

02:38:33.000 He's every bit of sixth three.

02:38:34.000 He's a big boy.

02:38:37.000 Did I watch the contender for the first time?

02:38:39.000 I never watched that.

02:38:40.000 Best fight showing it.

02:38:41.000 It's so great.

02:38:41.000 You've never seen it before?

02:38:42.000 I never have it Trumps Ultimate Fighters.

02:38:46.000 Did you see it?

02:38:46.000 My boy Jean-Paul Lebozneani uh got in there and his dad had been training him forever.

02:38:52.000 I know.

02:38:52.000 His dad had been training him since he was seven.

02:38:54.000 There there's a video of him doing it.

02:38:56.000 And and uh just to watch that kid.

02:38:59.000 He wanted to do everything else.

02:39:00.000 His dad goes, No, you're gonna you're gonna wrestle and you're gonna fight, and he made it to the UFC.

02:39:04.000 Fucking jujitsu's sick.

02:39:07.000 We'll see.

02:39:10.000 Well, this guy's coming in his own, you know.

02:39:12.000 It's like I think the Strickland fight taught him a lesson.

02:39:15.000 Yeah, because it takes a just put so much pressure on him, and he's got that he's got a weird style too, where he throws that teep from the front foot.

02:39:22.000 Yeah.

02:39:22.000 Strickland is like constantly teeping you and constantly got you moving, and he moves back really well when punches are thrown on him, and he's got his hands like this.

02:39:30.000 I want to see Bobby's combat stricklin.

02:39:32.000 I'd love to see that fight.

02:39:34.000 What age do you think fighters peak typically?

02:39:37.000 Like looking at it.

02:39:38.000 It depends what weight class.

02:39:39.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:39:40.000 Yeah.

02:39:40.000 Well, it's wild when they're like really lightweight and they're still in it, like Volkhodovsky.

02:39:45.000 Yeah.

02:39:45.000 Like out, usually after 30 at the lighter weights.

02:39:48.000 What is this, Jamie?

02:39:49.000 Disaster.

02:39:49.000 That's it.

02:39:49.000 Le Bozniani, right there.

02:39:51.000 So watch this.

02:39:51.000 You see what?

02:39:52.000 He won by knockout.

02:39:53.000 Yeah, he won by knockout, but check this out.

02:39:54.000 Jimmy, I'm gonna send you a video right now.

02:39:56.000 Yeah, this kid's special.

02:39:58.000 He threw that kick off of the punch like the kick and punch at the same time.

02:40:01.000 Watch that.

02:40:02.000 Jamie, I'm gonna send you something.

02:40:04.000 See that?

02:40:04.000 See how he did that?

02:40:05.000 Came over the top.

02:40:06.000 Yeah, no, he throws the jab and the yeah, he threw it over the top, but he did the jab and the kick at the same time.

02:40:14.000 Style bender does that a lot. 0.80

02:40:16.000 Yeah, and and he practiced such a slick move.

02:40:18.000 There's a video of him practicing that move with his dad at seven years old.

02:40:22.000 That's nice.

02:40:22.000 Watch this.

02:40:23.000 Boom! 0.99

02:40:24.000 Oh my goodness.

02:40:26.000 That's nice.

02:40:27.000 Yeah, that contender series is awesome.

02:40:28.000 It's very good.

02:40:29.000 It's brilliant.

02:40:30.000 And look how many guys have come out of that and are now fighting in the UFC.

02:40:35.000 So many.

02:40:36.000 Dude, how about that UFC Paramount deal?

02:40:38.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

02:40:40.000 Great.

02:40:40.000 It's a lot of money.

02:40:42.000 Um, what is it, like seven billion dollars for seven years?

02:40:46.000 Uh no.

02:40:49.000 Is it seven billion?

02:40:51.000 Well, that's Jamie.

02:40:52.000 What are you doing, Brian?

02:40:52.000 I got it, Brian.

02:40:54.000 Check this out.

02:40:54.000 You're in the middle of the channel.

02:40:55.000 You know, you don't have to walk over to Texas.

02:40:57.000 Yeah, don't you know his number?

02:40:58.000 I'm a kid, man.

02:40:59.000 Airdrop him or some shit.

02:41:00.000 Like, so you see this move?

02:41:01.000 What watch watch this?

02:41:02.000 Watch when he's a kid.

02:41:03.000 Look at this with his dad.

02:41:04.000 Look at this.

02:41:04.000 Oh, that's crazy.

02:41:05.000 Now watch this, ready?

02:41:06.000 He's doing his this is when he's in first grade.

02:41:08.000 Now boom!

02:41:10.000 Oh, that's crazy.

02:41:11.000 How cool is that?

02:41:12.000 Well, those guys that do have that like traditional karate background.

02:41:16.000 The the thing was his dad's a background.

02:41:18.000 Karate in particular, is that you're you're not really getting hurt and you're throwing a lot of kicks, and you learn leg dexterity.

02:41:26.000 And it's like especially like Taekwondo, you learn leg dexterity that regular people don't have.

02:41:31.000 It's like just how you're talking about like there's a level of cardio that you would need to run a marathon, and then you think, but that's about as good as anybody could ever get.

02:41:39.000 And then there's guys that come along 100 miles.

02:41:42.000 There's also that with what you're seeing with MMA with cardio and MMA.

02:41:46.000 But it's also that with everything.

02:41:47.000 It's that with like grappling with striking, with kicking, with everything.

02:41:52.000 We're used to like a certain level of it, but if there's the if elite like Taekwondo guys really figured out Muay Thai and then wrestling and grappling.

02:42:02.000 You're in trouble.

02:42:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:42:03.000 Like these guys that can throw wild wheel kicks at you and spinning sidekicks to the body.

02:42:08.000 And it's their thing.

02:42:09.000 And they're the time is in trouble.

02:42:11.000 Because they've gotten way past the level that everybody else is at.

02:42:14.000 That's right.

02:42:15.000 Yeah, I think he rolled with you, didn't he?

02:42:19.000 He was like 17, though.

02:42:21.000 You probably don't remember.

02:42:22.000 But he was very complimentary, obviously.

02:42:26.000 His jujitsu.

02:42:27.000 Eddie Brought was told you not that kill.

02:42:29.000 That kid's jujitsu is so crazy, though.

02:42:31.000 And now he's in the UFC.

02:42:32.000 We have Gordon Ryan's Abu Dhabi belt right there.

02:42:36.000 Damn.

02:42:37.000 Donated to the studio.

02:42:39.000 Look at that, son.

02:42:40.000 I guess.

02:42:44.000 That's amazing.

02:42:46.000 Is someone out there, some doctor fix his tummy, please?

02:42:49.000 Fuck.

02:42:50.000 For real.

02:42:50.000 You have uh you have one and then um I'm waiting.

02:42:54.000 They have I'm waiting.

02:42:55.000 Like I'm gonna give Trump one.

02:42:57.000 Oh, wow.

02:42:58.000 It's hilarious.

02:42:59.000 That's hilarious.

02:43:00.000 Joe, how many people that it's gold?

02:43:02.000 I love that it's gold.

02:43:03.000 How many people are hitting you up for those White House tickets?

02:43:05.000 Oh, quite a few.

02:43:06.000 Hey.

02:43:07.000 Yeah.

02:43:07.000 How about your boys over here?

02:43:08.000 You probably won't pass any kind of test that you need to get in there.

02:43:11.000 No, we've been to the White House.

02:43:13.000 Chop and I have been to the White House.

02:43:15.000 Who invited you to the White House?

02:43:17.000 Some guy who was a back in the daddy who was a fan, but he was a secret service guy.

02:43:21.000 Oh wow.

02:43:22.000 Got us in there.

02:43:22.000 Yeah.

02:43:23.000 I was all up in there.

02:43:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:43:24.000 All the rooms.

02:43:25.000 When Obama was weird.

02:43:26.000 Yeah.

02:43:27.000 When Obama was present?

02:43:28.000 That was that long ago.

02:43:29.000 That's why that was when Bush was dead.

02:43:31.000 That's wild.

02:43:34.000 What is all this talk about them arresting Obama?

02:43:36.000 What is what is all this?

02:43:37.000 Silly.

02:43:38.000 Is it real?

02:43:38.000 No, it's not.

02:43:39.000 No, they're really gonna start doing that.

02:43:41.000 Going arrest informed press.

02:43:44.000 By the way, after arrest.

02:43:45.000 Bad idea.

02:43:46.000 Every one of them, that's a lot.

02:43:48.000 Yeah.

02:43:49.000 That that that that warfare, that legal warfare.

02:43:51.000 Look at the size of Barlow.

02:43:53.000 He's 6'4.

02:43:54.000 It's gonna be a good fight, son.

02:43:55.000 He's a big boy.

02:43:56.000 Again, these guys are both 185.

02:43:58.000 Okay, this is crazy.

02:43:59.000 They're not 185.

02:44:00.000 These are 200 plus pound guys.

02:44:02.000 Him sucking weight is so hard for him.

02:44:04.000 Uh Barhalo. 0.97

02:44:05.000 Barhallio.

02:44:06.000 Yeah, but it looks like him.

02:44:07.000 He looks like a 200-pound guy.

02:44:09.000 Bahalio's also 32.

02:44:10.000 Is he 32?

02:44:11.000 Yeah.

02:44:12.000 I think it was like a young kid.

02:44:13.000 Wow, Imavov is uh 20 something, 27.

02:44:16.000 28, I think.

02:44:17.000 29, maybe.

02:44:17.000 This is a good fight.

02:44:18.000 It's a good fight.

02:44:20.000 Very good fight.

02:44:22.000 Man.

02:44:23.000 Barlino is really, really explosive.

02:44:26.000 Look at him.

02:44:27.000 Probably the better athlete.

02:44:28.000 I wonder how much it fucks with them watching Roofy get tapped right before.

02:44:32.000 That's why I was just thinking it can be good.

02:44:34.000 Your first loss with the nerds.

02:44:36.000 I know, and he's a good friend of yours.

02:44:38.000 Yeah.

02:44:38.000 Training partner.

02:44:39.000 And you all went through training camp for this night.

02:44:41.000 A little bit.

02:44:42.000 And he gets mud stomped.

02:44:44.000 Right.

02:44:44.000 And maybe you know how you go with him.

02:44:47.000 Mud stomped?

02:44:48.000 Well, you just get your shit pushed in, and you're like, oh, we just did an entire camp not to get taken down.

02:44:54.000 And then that guy, we didn't last a chance.

02:44:56.000 It's fucking MA. 1.00

02:44:57.000 There's definitely some doubt in that.

02:44:58.000 You're like, oh shit, our camp's not the best.

02:45:01.000 Yeah.

02:45:06.000 Bro is huge.

02:45:07.000 What was uh Imamov's uh kickboxing background before he became an MMA fighter?

02:45:13.000 He has a background in striking, right?

02:45:15.000 Isn't am I wrong?

02:45:16.000 No, he has a background in striking.

02:45:18.000 Because it doesn't grappling.

02:45:20.000 It certainly looks like it.

02:45:21.000 When I'm looking at the way I mean everything looks real like that stutter step that he did before he delivered that right hand, that's really high level, man.

02:45:30.000 And look at how he throws that front teep to the body. 0.98

02:45:32.000 He's fucking good, man.

02:45:33.000 And remember Strickland beat him at things Strickland took it on short notice.

02:45:37.000 Bro, Strickland puts that pressure on you.

02:45:40.000 I'm telling you.

02:45:40.000 And it's a different style.

02:45:42.000 It's a weird fucking style.

02:45:44.000 Strickling kind of broke him.

02:45:46.000 Yeah, he kind of broke him.

02:45:47.000 I think he just overwhelmed his cardio to the point where it became defensive.

02:45:51.000 That's what I would say.

02:45:53.000 Because Tricklin just keeps that pressure on it.

02:45:55.000 Look what he did to Izzy. 0.97

02:45:56.000 Same shit.

02:45:57.000 He keeps that pressure on you.

02:45:58.000 That see, that'd be a good fight, Frizzy.

02:46:01.000 Oh, yeah.

02:46:01.000 I think Izzy wants that fight.

02:46:02.000 I think they're actually talking about that fight.

02:46:05.000 Strickland's uh uh suspensions up in November or something like that.

02:46:09.000 Anger management from jumping in the ring and punching somebody.

02:46:13.000 I don't know if it's true, but I I heard I saw a thing on the internet.

02:46:16.000 It could be fake, but it also could very well be real that he uh got kicked out of anger management because he kept threatening to fight the teacher.

02:46:23.000 I think that was just that's just a meme.

02:46:26.000 Barhallio almost got the trip.

02:46:28.000 Yeah, almost got that trip.

02:46:30.000 But Imavov is no joke, man.

02:46:32.000 No joke, grappling too.

02:46:33.000 Very good defense, but standing up, he seems to have an advantage.

02:46:36.000 He's doing a really good job of keeping you on the fence.

02:46:40.000 Yeah, a little bit, right?

02:46:41.000 Yeah.

02:46:41.000 That was a guy that didn't get his flowers.

02:46:44.000 That was a guy who did not get his flowers.

02:46:46.000 Fucking kid.

02:46:46.000 Gagar Musasi was a fucking animal.

02:46:49.000 You know, he used to train with Fedor.

02:46:51.000 Oh, really?

02:46:52.000 Yep.

02:46:52.000 That makes sense.

02:46:53.000 Remember with Sassi, we started the big dick energy rumor about him.

02:46:56.000 Yes.

02:46:57.000 And then he his manager told me he was it.

02:47:01.000 Of course.

02:47:01.000 Of course he loved it.

02:47:03.000 We're saying he probably has a big dick, and he probably does, man.

02:47:05.000 Sure.

02:47:05.000 You don't wear hats like that.

02:47:07.000 So smart, man.

02:47:08.000 Very well read.

02:47:09.000 Yeah, and very high fight IQ too, just intelligent in his approach to fighting, but ferocious.

02:47:14.000 But then he went to Bellator or Peter.

02:47:16.000 He put him on the shelf.

02:47:18.000 He was going to sue him to get out.

02:47:20.000 But he's too old now.

02:47:20.000 Like how old is he now?

02:47:21.000 It's fucked up.

02:47:22.000 He wastes like three years in there.

02:47:23.000 Yeah.

02:47:23.000 How old is uh Gagard Musasi now, Jamie?

02:47:26.000 54.

02:47:31.000 Remember when he knocked out Wideman?

02:47:33.000 Fuck yeah.

02:47:33.000 Remember knocked out Jock Ray Sousa with the upcake?

02:47:36.000 But Susa then got one though. 0.63

02:47:38.000 What's that?

02:47:39.000 40.

02:47:39.000 It's 40.

02:47:40.000 Yeah.

02:47:41.000 It's over.

02:47:42.000 I mean, if you're cleaning.

02:47:43.000 Oh, oh, oh, nice shot.

02:47:45.000 You can fight in other organizations and keep the train kept up a road.

02:47:51.000 I remember when remember when Susa put him in that killating though?

02:47:54.000 It's just like Jock Ray just caught him in him.

02:47:56.000 It's like crazy.

02:47:58.000 Well, you know, Jock Ray is Jock Ray.

02:48:00.000 Yeah.

02:48:01.000 Yeah, he's a beast.

02:48:05.000 I can't believe that.

02:48:06.000 Did you see Strickland's uh tweet about Rampage's son?

02:48:10.000 He's like, we're both head to anger management.

02:48:11.000 Just one of us can have a felony on the record.

02:48:13.000 Or one of us is gonna be able to own a gun afterwards.

02:48:17.000 Ooh.

02:48:18.000 It's a good fight, man.

02:48:19.000 Yeah, Bahalio's closing the distance now.

02:48:21.000 Yeah.

02:48:22.000 This is the interesting.

02:48:23.000 So there's a thing about him breaking when he fought Strickland, if you think he broke.

02:48:28.000 He melted, yeah.

02:48:29.000 Like, did he, but did he just run out of cardio or did he lose his enthusiasm?

02:48:34.000 He was giving as good as he was getting, though.

02:48:36.000 They were they were sucking it out to the last time.

02:48:38.000 But he broke him.

02:48:39.000 He broke him.

02:48:40.000 Yeah.

02:48:41.000 I mean, he certainly overwhelmed him.

02:48:43.000 He certainly overwhelmed them.

02:48:44.000 But you can't tell what like just the guy's from his face when he wants out.

02:48:51.000 It's also an intelligent thing.

02:48:52.000 It's an intelligence thing.

02:48:54.000 If you know that you don't have enough left.

02:48:55.000 Like here's a here's an example.

02:48:56.000 Last round of Strickland versus Adasanya.

02:48:58.000 Strickland's like, fuck it, come on.

02:49:00.000 Come on, he's coming towards him.

02:49:02.000 Is he gonna do?

02:49:03.000 Yeah, all right, let's do it.

02:49:04.000 Knock me out.

02:49:05.000 Like, fuck that.

02:49:06.000 Like you're already you're exhausted.

02:49:07.000 You get dropped in the first round.

02:49:08.000 You got you're losing the fight.

02:49:10.000 You know you're losing the fight.

02:49:11.000 Stay defensive, just get out of there.

02:49:13.000 Yep.

02:49:13.000 You could say, oh, he broke him.

02:49:14.000 But isn't that just a smart move if you don't have anything left?

02:49:17.000 Yeah.

02:49:18.000 If you can't do it, like you know you're too fucking tired to fight the guy off.

02:49:22.000 Are you supposed to what are you supposed to do?

02:49:23.000 Throw yourself into the fire?

02:49:25.000 I mean, you could try that.

02:49:26.000 That doesn't usually work.

02:49:29.000 How many guys put it in?

02:49:30.000 But the thing is like you want a guy, but you want a guy who just wants to fight to the end, too.

02:49:34.000 So it's like it's more entertaining.

02:49:36.000 I know, but it's like what do you what what do you favor?

02:49:39.000 Do you favor intelligence and tactics and live to fight another day?

02:49:42.000 Do you look at it in terms of an entire career?

02:49:44.000 Like if you just decide to throw down right there and you're exhausted and you know you're exhausted, and you only got a couple of seconds of haymakers in you, and then you get KO'd and flat line, you're at the jaw, you get your jaw wired shot at the hospital.

02:49:57.000 And you're out you're spending at least six months.

02:49:59.000 I love seeing fighters that don't get hit.

02:50:01.000 Like that that that skill, the ability to take less damage to me, is what now, as somebody who's such a fan of fighting, I that's what I love.

02:50:08.000 Right.

02:50:08.000 But then you have Max Halloway, lax round, and you have dust for you winning the fight, points at the ground, and the universe rewards him with a highlight real KO of just crazy.

02:50:21.000 Strikers will in general be bigger stars than grapplers.

02:50:26.000 Always.

02:50:27.000 But grapplers will in general be more successful.

02:50:29.000 Yeah, the have a higher winning percentage for sure.

02:50:31.000 But the stars are always strikers.

02:50:33.000 Always, always, always.

02:50:34.000 Look at Connor, look at Izzy. 0.57

02:50:35.000 Always.

02:50:36.000 The biggest stars are always always.

02:50:39.000 Yeah, they put on that.

02:50:40.000 Well that's what the casuals, that's what they know.

02:50:41.000 Like, oh, he punches him, he not.

02:50:44.000 Oh man, I don't care who he was.

02:50:46.000 It's such a everybody's so talented now.

02:50:48.000 It's just crazy.

02:50:49.000 I know.

02:50:49.000 It's it's really interesting, man.

02:50:51.000 You know, it's that way with everything.

02:50:53.000 It's that way with everything.

02:50:55.000 Because they're watching each other.

02:50:56.000 Even my son, uh my son at nine at nine years old, like you watch you watch these baseball players, you're like, these kids are fucking nine.

02:51:03.000 This is how good everybody is now?

02:51:05.000 Yeah.

02:51:06.000 Because they specialize in it.

02:51:07.000 It's like singers.

02:51:09.000 They get to see what it looks like on YouTube.

02:51:12.000 I think that's a big thing.

02:51:14.000 I agree.

02:51:14.000 Yeah.

02:51:14.000 I think everybody watching everybody is making everybody else way better.

02:51:20.000 Way more.

02:51:21.000 Because when we were coming up, it was like whatever the best kid in the neighborhood.

02:51:24.000 If I was the best kid, it's like, oh man, this is so good.

02:51:27.000 But I didn't see the kid in fucking Cuba playing.

02:51:29.000 Exactly.

02:51:30.000 And now the kids are privy to it.

02:51:31.000 They're like, oh shit.

02:51:32.000 We got people like Gordon Ryan breaking down Jiu Jitsu.

02:51:34.000 Like that didn't be a good thing.

02:51:36.000 There's this kid in jiu-jitsu, his name is uh his name is Daniel 220 Volt, I think it is on Instagram.

02:51:41.000 Dude, he's like fucking eight years old.

02:51:42.000 He's like shredded with an APAC.

02:51:44.000 And he's like flying arm bars and shit on hits.

02:51:48.000 And it's tournaments, it's fucking insane.

02:51:50.000 So crazy.

02:51:50.000 He's got like 600,000 followers.

02:51:52.000 He's like nine years old.

02:51:53.000 That's a good one.

02:51:54.000 And he goes, he just goes in and just crushes.

02:51:56.000 But to that point, the kids are pushing themselves so much now and specializing in each sport, and they're getting fucking good.

02:52:02.000 But like Tommy John surgery's up 80% with kids under 13 years old.

02:52:07.000 Oh, they're doing it on purpose, just to give them give them an advantage.

02:52:10.000 Some of them, and then some of them because they're throwing so hard now.

02:52:12.000 This is kid.

02:52:13.000 Who's this?

02:52:14.000 Oh my god.

02:52:16.000 There's one.

02:52:17.000 Try to find the one where he's uh he's doing a flying armbar.

02:52:20.000 It's pretty recent.

02:52:21.000 It's up at the top.

02:52:21.000 Look how jacked he is in that one.

02:52:23.000 There's one.

02:52:24.000 Oh, look at this.

02:52:27.000 Oh my god.

02:52:28.000 We're missing out on a good fight.

02:52:32.000 Sorry, this is supposed to be a fight in the world.

02:52:33.000 The kid was never training.

02:52:37.000 We touched on a lot of subjects.

02:52:38.000 Yeah.

02:52:39.000 The thing about a guy like Imamov that I was going to get at with the cardio is much like Connor, like these guys that are real fast and explosive, that is like sprinting.

02:52:48.000 Oh, correct.

02:52:49.000 That was a nice ride to the body.

02:52:50.000 We can't do both.

02:52:51.000 Like you're not gonna find a guy with crazy knockout power and great cards.

02:52:55.000 Right.

02:52:55.000 So the difference between him and Mirab is Rob just kind of mauls you.

02:52:59.000 Yeah, he's moving fast and powerful, but once he gets a shot or two off, he's shooting.

02:53:04.000 Shoot every time, no matter what.

02:53:05.000 And that pressure.

02:53:07.000 That pressure's gonna make his strikes even more effective because you never know when the strikes are coming.

02:53:10.000 You know, boxers used to do this thing they still do where they run for like an hour and a half and you keep your heart weight at a certain level, not super high.

02:53:18.000 And that's that's how you build new capillaries and stuff.

02:53:20.000 Lance Armstrong would do that too.

02:53:22.000 Yeah, they call what do they call it?

02:53:23.000 Zone two training.

02:53:24.000 Yeah, overtraining work.

02:53:27.000 Yeah, for the long time.

02:53:27.000 But boxers would do it for like literally run an hour and a half and stuff.

02:53:30.000 Yeah, UFC guys do that. 0.53

02:53:32.000 Really?

02:53:32.000 Yeah.

02:53:33.000 I think all elite athletes in all sports are doing stuff.

02:53:36.000 Yeah, all the secrets are.

02:53:39.000 Yeah.

02:53:39.000 Yeah, now the secrets.

02:53:40.000 Now it's a talent.

02:53:41.000 You get to this level of the talent.

02:53:42.000 Like the technical, when you look at how technical everybody is now, like this fight right now.

02:53:47.000 This is an awesome fight.

02:53:48.000 If these guys were just kickboxers, this was would be an awesome.

02:53:51.000 This is like a high level fight.

02:53:52.000 Yep.

02:53:53.000 And they're not they're their cardio's great.

02:53:56.000 Like, look at this.

02:53:57.000 They're both still early.

02:53:59.000 It's the second round.

02:54:00.000 Yeah.

02:54:01.000 There's another lot of wrestling.

02:54:02.000 Very smart, Chale Sunden quote.

02:54:04.000 He was saying that no one can fight full blast for 25 minutes.

02:54:07.000 It's just too long.

02:54:08.000 Fighting.

02:54:09.000 Well, Mirabics that differ. 0.93

02:54:10.000 Yeah, that's what I was going to get to.

02:54:11.000 It's like, okay, but isn't that like no one can if you run a marathon, you will die.

02:54:17.000 I'll tell you right now, you own 26 miles.

02:54:19.000 Your kidneys will dysfunction.

02:54:21.000 That's right.

02:54:22.000 You will bleed out of your pancreas, and you will die.

02:54:24.000 There's people that'll tell you that, right?

02:54:26.000 Cam Hanes ran 220 miles or something like that.

02:54:28.000 More.

02:54:29.000 Yeah.

02:54:30.000 He's run more.

02:54:31.000 I think the Bigfoot 240 is 238.

02:54:34.000 I hung with him in Eugene.

02:54:35.000 Oh, yeah.

02:54:36.000 Oh, right hand back.

02:54:38.000 Oh, they both landed good shots there.

02:54:40.000 Oh, Imovov.

02:54:42.000 Dude, this is good.

02:54:42.000 How do you score this fight?

02:54:43.000 I didn't even fucking know.

02:54:44.000 We barely pay attention.

02:54:45.000 We're watching little kids strangle each other.

02:54:47.000 We were watching little kids do armbars.

02:54:49.000 I think we should go back to the vaccines.

02:54:53.000 Let's get back to that.

02:54:55.000 I knew we were going to touch on it.

02:54:57.000 When I was a kid, you know, when martial arts was on television, it was on TV, like maybe like PKA karate would be on TV.

02:55:08.000 Yeah.

02:55:08.000 You know, remember those days, like on ESPN.

02:55:11.000 Like maybe like once a month on a Saturday, you'd watch two dudes in karate pants throw bad kicks at each other.

02:55:18.000 Yep.

02:55:19.000 Imagine like kids growing up and seeing this now.

02:55:22.000 I know.

02:55:22.000 From the time they're like babies.

02:55:24.000 They're seeing elite level MMA.

02:55:27.000 Yeah.

02:55:28.000 Elite level grappling, striking.

02:55:30.000 And then if they're like become fans and they get crazy, then they get fight pass.

02:55:35.000 They start watching UFC Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

02:55:37.000 You know what the big difference now is?

02:55:39.000 There's the UFC video game.

02:55:40.000 So like I learned sports through video games.

02:55:42.000 Me and my brother play Madden or Tech Mobile, so I knew everything about football, the rules, everything.

02:55:47.000 All the players, but now they have the UFC game.

02:55:50.000 So my kids like know who Hamzad is.

02:55:52.000 Not when he fights, you know, from the video game.

02:55:54.000 So when they see him like, oh, there's Hamzai, because they pick him all the time in the game. 1.00

02:55:57.000 That's great.

02:55:58.000 And they know to use his wrestling.

02:56:00.000 That's crazy.

02:56:01.000 Wow.

02:56:02.000 But that makes sense.

02:56:03.000 Yeah.

02:56:04.000 I've I played like I don't know, ten years ago.

02:56:06.000 I played like the first UFC video game.

02:56:08.000 And I would just get so fucking mad.

02:56:10.000 Because I like couldn't do the moves on the ground that I know how to do.

02:56:13.000 I'm like, fucking what's the board of the buttons?

02:56:15.000 That was a nice right hand.

02:56:16.000 Yeah, it was.

02:56:17.000 Look at that.

02:56:17.000 Boom.

02:56:18.000 That was good right hand back by Bahani.

02:56:22.000 It's a good fight.

02:56:23.000 Yeah, it is.

02:56:24.000 I played.

02:56:25.000 Um they they've never figured out a way.

02:56:27.000 There's probably not a way until they get like real something that can like really change your actual uh experience, like what you're seeing, where they could make uh a virtual reality game with grappling.

02:56:40.000 But you can with striking, at least with boxing, yeah.

02:56:43.000 They have those it's fucking good, dude.

02:56:46.000 It's good.

02:56:46.000 It's I'm dripping and swinging.

02:56:48.000 It's competitive.

02:56:49.000 Like this thing's coming at you, throwing punches at you.

02:56:51.000 You'd like it, Brian.

02:56:52.000 You look ridiculous, but yeah.

02:56:53.000 You look ridiculous.

02:56:54.000 I've done it.

02:56:55.000 It's great.

02:56:55.000 Yeah, but you you hold your gloves the wrong way, unfortunately, because if you punch normal, like this hack it, the gloves are like upside down.

02:57:03.000 But it's a workout.

02:57:03.000 That's a real workout.

02:57:04.000 Oh, he heard him.

02:57:06.000 He heard him.

02:57:07.000 Yeah.

02:57:07.000 Snapped his head back.

02:57:08.000 Oh, now he's seeing blood.

02:57:11.000 Ah, body shot, nice.

02:57:12.000 Oh shit.

02:57:13.000 Bro, Imov looks good.

02:57:15.000 Yeah, he does.

02:57:15.000 He does.

02:57:16.000 Yeah, he does.

02:57:17.000 Bohalio looks like he's recovered though.

02:57:19.000 He's he's getting sturdy.

02:57:22.000 He's getting touched.

02:57:24.000 Yeah.

02:57:24.000 He's getting touched.

02:57:25.000 And I just don't think either of these guys beat Hamza.

02:57:28.000 Yeah, they gotta deal with that whole wrestling thing. 0.99

02:57:32.000 Good luck with that.

02:57:34.000 Good luck to everybody.

02:57:36.000 That's a really hard puzzle to solve.

02:57:38.000 I think for a guy like Imavov too, what we're seeing is this version of him that learned a lot from the Strickland fight.

02:57:46.000 You know?

02:57:46.000 I mean, if a guy like that.

02:57:48.000 We got knee in the balls.

02:57:50.000 Did he?

02:57:50.000 Yeah.

02:57:51.000 I think a guy like that goes through a loss like that and is like, okay, I gotta up my cardio.

02:57:56.000 I gotta up my pace.

02:57:57.000 I gotta not let people push me around.

02:57:59.000 I gotta learn from that.

02:58:00.000 I didn't expect that.

02:58:01.000 If you see strict on the outside, you don't you don't know.

02:58:04.000 And that's what I think that's where fighters make their biggest growth.

02:58:06.000 Either they make so much growth and get so much better and become contenders, or they go the fucking opposite.

02:58:11.000 Right.

02:58:11.000 That's why I'm hoping happens with Bo Nickel.

02:58:14.000 If I have to watch him fucking strike again, I'm gonna freak the fuck out.

02:58:18.000 Dude, use your goddamn grappling, man.

02:58:21.000 Get with someone to help you with your grappling.

02:58:23.000 They they they put him in there fast too.

02:58:25.000 Like they super fast.

02:58:26.000 Like RDR is a few years.

02:58:27.000 It's the UFC.

02:58:28.000 It's the UFC, baby.

02:58:30.000 But that's the thing that the like Ed Swar says it.

02:58:32.000 Like if you get if you go to the UFC, be ready to fight anybody they offer you.

02:58:36.000 Don't say no to anybody.

02:58:37.000 Otherwise, don't come.

02:58:38.000 But is that smart?

02:58:39.000 If you're developing a fighter.

02:58:40.000 Makes no sense.

02:58:41.000 It's not really smart.

02:58:42.000 But the thing is, like some guys can pull it off like John, right?

02:58:45.000 So John did it.

02:58:46.000 You know, I remember John against the standard Gustafson or um Bonner.

02:58:50.000 Um no uh Goosmao, like one of his first fights.

02:58:53.000 And I I remember thinking, like, where is this guy coming from?

02:58:56.000 Like, this is crazy.

02:58:57.000 This guy is so good.

02:58:58.000 Well, when you saw him against Jake O'Brien.

02:59:00.000 Yeah, Jesus Christ.

02:59:03.000 Boom.

02:59:03.000 Yeah.

02:59:04.000 Oh, bro, he was he was something special.

02:59:06.000 So that guy got thrown right into the fire.

02:59:09.000 Twenty-two years old fight Shogun, you know, in New Jersey, wins the title.

02:59:13.000 It's crazy.

02:59:13.000 But you're in the big leagues.

02:59:15.000 But he's a freak.

02:59:17.000 Most guys, if you were raising them and training them, you would you you know if you were raising them through the career, you'd be like, we need to talk to you like box.

02:59:25.000 We need to test you against the real stuff.

02:59:27.000 But they they've done that with with Patty Pimlet now.

02:59:29.000 They're doing that, they've done well with him.

02:59:30.000 They did they do well with Sugar Sean O'Malley because they I think the UFC's learned like with Darren Tilt, such a talent.

02:59:37.000 Look at what he's doing now.

02:59:38.000 They pushed him way too fast.

02:59:39.000 Way too fucking fast.

02:59:40.000 And it fucks these guys up.

02:59:42.000 Bro, Till can fucking strike.

02:59:44.000 He can crack, man.

02:59:45.000 He's made a career for himself.

02:59:46.000 He can strike.

02:59:47.000 Yeah.

02:59:47.000 And that uh knockout of Luke Rock Hall is crazy.

02:59:52.000 That was crazy.

02:59:54.000 I think the UFC did learn, but the UFC can only do so much.

02:59:57.000 They can only do so much, and the Sugar Sean, they go, All right, here's Peter Young.

03:00:00.000 I think Darren had knee problems too.

03:00:01.000 I think that's part of the thing.

03:00:02.000 Like he had so much.

03:00:03.000 He wanted he asked for his release so he could get on that Osai E and get his injuries and heal up.

03:00:10.000 Uh that makes sense.

03:00:11.000 He's like, I can't do this because they're testing me all the time.

03:00:13.000 Release me.

03:00:13.000 They didn't cut him.

03:00:14.000 He asked for his release.

03:00:15.000 Most people think he was cut, he asked for his release.

03:00:18.000 Ah, that makes sense.

03:00:19.000 And now he's just starching dudes outside the UFC.

03:00:22.000 Bro, he looks so good against Rockhold.

03:00:24.000 I'm like, this guy might have a career as a legitimate boxer.

03:00:27.000 Because he started off as a Muay Thai guy.

03:00:29.000 He actually had some boxing, some boxing bouts too.

03:00:31.000 Yeah, he's good, man.

03:00:32.000 He's fucking good.

03:00:37.000 You guys are missing out.

03:00:38.000 These guys are any grill, right?

03:00:40.000 I know we are missing it.

03:00:41.000 They're at mid distance here, just banging it out.

03:00:44.000 Great defense.

03:00:47.000 How the defense is outstanding, man.

03:00:49.000 I just think this is great.

03:00:51.000 I just think Hamzat eats these guys. 0.99

03:00:52.000 Well he takes them down.

03:00:54.000 He takes him down.

03:00:54.000 That that that if you're that close to him.

03:00:56.000 He finishes both of them.

03:00:58.000 It just is what it is.

03:00:59.000 You think so?

03:01:00.000 That's it.

03:01:03.000 Bro, he looks good.

03:01:04.000 But it's the difference in like his feints, like as he's moving in, it's very everything's very precise.

03:01:10.000 Very much.

03:01:11.000 He does I like that move.

03:01:12.000 Ooh, that's nice.

03:01:13.000 Ah, I pose.

03:01:16.000 You like his footwork, right?

03:01:17.000 Joe's type fun.

03:01:18.000 You always like it.

03:01:19.000 He's got this stutter step that he does when he's coming in where you think he's coming in, then you relax a second.

03:01:24.000 He did he like he po lulls you to sleep a little bit.

03:01:27.000 Yeah, it's high level.

03:01:29.000 This kid is a stud.

03:01:31.000 Oh, that sucks.

03:01:32.000 See, this is where you're like, let that time run, baby.

03:01:35.000 Let's get this lung capacity back. 0.95

03:01:38.000 Let's slow this heart rate down.

03:01:40.000 Let him boo.

03:01:42.000 That's fine.

03:01:43.000 Right?

03:01:43.000 If you're in his corner.

03:01:44.000 Yeah.

03:01:44.000 Oh, yeah, let him boo.

03:01:45.000 Five.

03:01:46.000 Let him boo.

03:01:47.000 No one ever takes a full five.

03:01:49.000 Ever.

03:01:49.000 It's never been done.

03:01:50.000 Really?

03:01:51.000 It's never been done.

03:01:52.000 That's crazy.

03:01:52.000 No one's taking the full five.

03:01:53.000 Wow.

03:01:54.000 It's a lot of pressure.

03:01:55.000 Dude, five minutes was a long time when you're in there to fucking say.

03:01:58.000 But plus the crowd, like I I've been kicked in the nuts by Gonzaga.

03:02:01.000 I uh poked in the eye by Krokop.

03:02:02.000 That's fine.

03:02:02.000 And you think you want the five minutes, and the crowd's like, fuck yeah.

03:02:06.000 Like, okay, I'm good.

03:02:07.000 No, I'm fine.

03:02:07.000 I'm good.

03:02:08.000 And you're not.

03:02:08.000 Oh my god.

03:02:14.000 God, these guys are evenly matched.

03:02:16.000 That's a pretty deep shot.

03:02:17.000 Yeah, it was.

03:02:18.000 They're so bad.

03:02:18.000 Yeah, he didn't he didn't he got in well, but he didn't fully commit to it.

03:02:21.000 And we are only in round three of a five-round fight.

03:02:24.000 He doesn't want his gas.

03:02:25.000 He doesn't want his gas.

03:02:31.000 I really don't know how I'd score this at this point.

03:02:37.000 I've been watching it.

03:02:37.000 From the small fraction I've seen Immova's up two rounds.

03:02:40.000 Really?

03:02:41.000 Yeah.

03:02:41.000 Yeah, I th I thought he definitely won that last round.

03:02:44.000 Yes.

03:02:45.000 He's landing the more effective strikes.

03:02:48.000 But again, you ain't getting a title shot against Hamzat fighting like this.

03:02:51.000 It's just the it's not the way you're talking about it.

03:02:52.000 It depends on how it ends.

03:02:54.000 Yeah, correct.

03:02:55.000 Who's RDR fighting again?

03:02:56.000 Well, Fluffy Hernandez.

03:03:00.000 Oh, oh, there you go.

03:03:01.000 He's touched.

03:03:01.000 And this is where and again, who knows, Joe?

03:03:03.000 You you know, you're you're the expert.

03:03:05.000 But when you said RDR's the best matchup for Hamzat, I think it's his easiest. 0.99

03:03:09.000 Really?

03:03:09.000 Yeah.

03:03:10.000 I think he knocks him out cold.

03:03:11.000 Oh, standing.

03:03:12.000 Yeah.

03:03:13.000 I don't think he bothered.

03:03:16.000 That's a good point.

03:03:17.000 He's been knocked out before.

03:03:18.000 He got dropped by Whitaker.

03:03:19.000 And the difference in between his stand-up versus Hamzat's standup is pretty significant.

03:03:24.000 Also, the the fact that RDR will be concerned about the takedown.

03:03:30.000 Yes.

03:03:30.000 Means that he's going to be timid to really open up standing.

03:03:34.000 Yeah.

03:03:35.000 Like if you if you watch what Hamzat does to those guys, like those stripes. 0.91

03:03:40.000 The second he does start to get comfortable standing is when Hamzak put him down.

03:03:43.000 That Mur shot fight.

03:03:44.000 He went whoop.

03:03:45.000 BAM.

03:03:46.000 Yeah, when he knows he's got his strike strike, he's strike.

03:03:48.000 He can strike.

03:03:49.000 It's clean.

03:03:50.000 He's fast.

03:03:50.000 And he loves to strike, like even against DDP.

03:03:52.000 He's like, let me fucking light this guy up.

03:03:54.000 You know?

03:03:55.000 Srukens, like no, no, no.

03:03:56.000 Just keep doing what you're doing, dude.

03:03:57.000 Let's get to check and get it the fuck out of here.

03:04:00.000 But he's getting all this criticism from the fan base.

03:04:02.000 You're boring, boring champion.

03:04:03.000 He's like, uh I'm boring?

03:04:05.000 Hansot?

03:04:06.000 Okay.

03:04:07.000 Okay.

03:04:07.000 Watch this.

03:04:09.000 And RDRs are like, yeah, let's do it.

03:04:11.000 Pressure on him to stay winning, though, too.

03:04:13.000 You know.

03:04:13.000 He has the pedigree to do it.

03:04:15.000 Yeah, he does.

03:04:16.000 I mean, once you're champion, that's the most important thing.

03:04:18.000 Yes.

03:04:19.000 Just keep winning.

03:04:20.000 Now you're making real money.

03:04:21.000 And I'm curious what the UFC is going to do with the payout, because his pay-per-view points before, and now that's gone.

03:04:26.000 Yeah.

03:04:26.000 You know?

03:04:27.000 Right.

03:04:27.000 Do you think they do it based on how many people watch?

03:04:29.000 That would be that's weird, right?

03:04:31.000 But that's the best way to do it.

03:04:33.000 Right?

03:04:33.000 So it's like ratings on a TV show.

03:04:35.000 If you got friends' ratings, you get a lot of money.

03:04:38.000 You get a percentage of that ad revenue.

03:04:40.000 I don't know wha how you would do it.

03:04:42.000 I It's way above my pay grade.

03:04:43.000 I don't know how you would do it, but I would imagine something like that would be reasonable.

03:04:48.000 Like the the idea is that like if more money is being acquired by the company, if they're making more money now, it would be great if the fighters get paid more money.

03:04:58.000 That just makes sense.

03:04:59.000 Oh and I think the UFC is gonna do that.

03:05:01.000 They're gonna do it.

03:05:02.000 Even if the UFC doubled everybody's pay, they're still only putting out 50% of overall pay.

03:05:07.000 So for the UFC, it's a win-win.

03:05:09.000 They're always winning this.

03:05:10.000 Barrow is more busy with this, man.

03:05:11.000 He's way more busy.

03:05:12.000 He looks good in this round.

03:05:13.000 Yeah.

03:05:13.000 And the last one.

03:05:14.000 That's the thing, it's like these rounds, they you know, this is only a minute in, and this is the fourth.

03:05:20.000 Yeah, and he's got a lot of fighting left to go.

03:05:22.000 And Barrow's been busy.

03:05:24.000 But Joe, you'll hear you'll hear guys argue fighter pay, and they compare it to the NFL and MBA, and they go, it should be 50-50.

03:05:31.000 And I I don't agree with that.

03:05:33.000 Because any league that's ever done above what the UFC's done, they've they're all out of business.

03:05:38.000 There's only one promotion ever in the history of fighting.

03:05:41.000 That's right.

03:05:41.000 That makes a profit to the UFC.

03:05:43.000 Yeah.

03:05:43.000 And it's not the NFL.

03:05:44.000 It's not the NBA.

03:05:45.000 It's different.

03:05:47.000 So it's it's hard to argue that they should do it any different.

03:05:49.000 Again, even if they doubled everybody's pay, it's still only 15% of profit.

03:05:53.000 Yeah.

03:05:53.000 They can do it.

03:05:54.000 It's nothing.

03:05:57.000 And you can always fight somewhere else.

03:06:00.000 That's a tricky one.

03:06:01.000 You could.

03:06:01.000 Yeah.

03:06:01.000 You could.

03:06:02.000 Yeah, that's a good.

03:06:03.000 That's a good argument.

03:06:04.000 But then it's like if you want to look at your overall career, like what your potential for stardom is.

03:06:09.000 There's no question.

03:06:10.000 If you go to the leak guys that got paid really well in the PFL that nobody knows who they are.

03:06:15.000 And then maybe they made more money than the UFC, but they won't get the same kind of sponsors.

03:06:19.000 They won't get the same.

03:06:20.000 It's not even closer.

03:06:22.000 You're basically you went from the NFL to CFL.

03:06:24.000 Yeah.

03:06:24.000 I I mean I I I see both sides, but at the end of the day, if you want to make Connor money, do Connor shit.

03:06:29.000 Correct.

03:06:30.000 That's true.

03:06:30.000 Oh, oh, Bohalio just caught him with a right hook.

03:06:32.000 Oh, oh boy.

03:06:34.000 Damn, Immoves back though. 0.98

03:06:36.000 Oh, these dudes are throwing down.

03:06:37.000 Damn.

03:06:37.000 These dudes are throwing down.

03:06:38.000 God.

03:06:39.000 Excellent.

03:06:41.000 Hollyo's.

03:06:42.000 His his defense, bro.

03:06:44.000 He's such a high level fight.

03:06:45.000 Defense.

03:06:46.000 They're both their defense is really good.

03:06:48.000 Really good.

03:06:51.000 They're just strictly boxing, basically, right now.

03:06:54.000 Yeah, not a whole lot of kicks, right?

03:06:56.000 No.

03:06:56.000 Too close.

03:06:57.000 But also, neither guy can get the other down.

03:07:00.000 They've tried.

03:07:01.000 Yeah.

03:07:02.000 It's also tiring.

03:07:03.000 Yeah.

03:07:04.000 Imagel was throwing some kicks earlier.

03:07:05.000 He threw a lot of front kicks to the body, too.

03:07:07.000 They keep tying up like this, but there's no like real shots, you know.

03:07:11.000 Right, they're just grappling against cage.

03:07:14.000 Getting rest.

03:07:16.000 Both have great cardio.

03:07:20.000 Exhaust.

03:07:20.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

03:07:22.000 Oh.

03:07:23.000 Oh.

03:07:24.000 Dude.

03:07:26.000 Damn, that was nice one.

03:07:28.000 That connected.

03:07:29.000 Oh, God.

03:07:30.000 Somebody's going to get this.

03:07:31.000 They're open up now.

03:07:33.000 Oh, these boys are swinging.

03:07:35.000 This is they're very close to getting cracked.

03:07:37.000 Each one of those punches is missing by an inch.

03:07:40.000 Yep.

03:07:42.000 God.

03:07:48.000 This is when it's the most terrifying.

03:07:50.000 If like a guy has a giant advantage when you're like deep into the fourth.

03:07:54.000 Oh, okay.

03:07:55.000 And you're exhausted and he's got a giant strike of the advantage.

03:07:58.000 He just got caught again.

03:07:58.000 And maybe you tried taking him down and it didn't work out.

03:08:02.000 Imov was born in Dagestan, but then moved to France.

03:08:05.000 Is that how his French citizenship?

03:08:08.000 Okay, that's a long ass time.

03:08:10.000 From when he's not, yeah, but that's enough.

03:08:12.000 He got the soul of the country and his bones.

03:08:16.000 Culture of work.

03:08:17.000 Ethic.

03:08:19.000 Well, it's like what a history of combat sports, man.

03:08:23.000 Dagestan?

03:08:24.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

03:08:25.000 It's not a big place.

03:08:26.000 I mean, Izerbaijan.

03:08:28.000 Mm-hmm.

03:08:28.000 Um Armenians, but fighters.

03:08:33.000 Fight wrestling and boxing.

03:08:34.000 Wrestling, kickboxing, MMA.

03:08:37.000 Huge part of the culture.

03:08:38.000 Same with Azerbaijan, same with Dagger's. 1.00

03:08:40.000 I still love Armenians back in LA. 1.00

03:08:43.000 They were real men.

03:08:44.000 They're great.

03:08:45.000 They were men.

03:08:46.000 Did you ever see in this like probably two years ago in LA, they tried bringing like the trans shit into Armenian district? 1.00

03:08:53.000 Did you see what happened?

03:08:54.000 Do you see all the hairy Army?

03:08:56.000 Just a line of G wagons show up to the school.

03:09:00.000 Just close G wagons.

03:09:02.000 They don't fucking enjoy it.

03:09:03.000 Armenians aren't here in a pillow.

03:09:04.000 They riot it.

03:09:05.000 Yeah.

03:09:05.000 They would like, no, this ain't what happened.

03:09:07.000 Nah, not with our kids.

03:09:08.000 School board, but oh, our bad.

03:09:10.000 Yeah, bitch. 1.00

03:09:10.000 Good luck with that. 1.00

03:09:11.000 Don't fuck with the Armenians. 1.00

03:09:13.000 Yeah.

03:09:13.000 They're tight.

03:09:14.000 They're a tight group.

03:09:15.000 Tight group.

03:09:15.000 Yep.

03:09:16.000 Had to be.

03:09:17.000 Yeah, they tried bringing in like the safe rooms in our means.

03:09:20.000 Oh! 0.60

03:09:21.000 Oh! 0.60

03:09:21.000 Just caught him with a nice left hook and a right hand. 0.60

03:09:24.000 God, they're a couple rugged fucks.

03:09:27.000 Their faces look pretty clean.

03:09:30.000 Barrio's a little more beat up.

03:09:32.000 Yeah.

03:09:33.000 Dude.

03:09:35.000 Kidding me right now.

03:09:36.000 Imagine, but imagine how much of time.

03:09:40.000 Like, imagine how much time this takes off your fighting career versus if they just grappled the whole fight.

03:09:44.000 Oh, yeah.

03:09:45.000 Well, not just your fighting career, man.

03:09:47.000 Your actual.

03:09:49.000 Yeah, your brain.

03:09:50.000 Yeah.

03:09:50.000 I mean, this is a car accident.

03:09:55.000 When you think about the kind of pressure that this fight puts on your just every thing your lungs, your heart, your brain, your bones.

03:10:08.000 But what a thing, right?

03:10:09.000 But you're not even considering the eight weeks in camp.

03:10:12.000 Right.

03:10:12.000 You're going in the fight's just beat up.

03:10:15.000 The camp fucks you up.

03:10:17.000 You have if you have hard enough training partners, you're getting fucked up in camp.

03:10:20.000 What was the worst injury you ever went into a fight with?

03:10:22.000 I got knocked out three days before I fought Nogero.

03:10:25.000 Oh my gosh.

03:10:26.000 And I got knocked out four days before I fought Rothwell.

03:10:29.000 Oh my god.

03:10:31.000 Uh Shane Carwin, sorry.

03:10:34.000 Oh my god.

03:10:36.000 That is so irresponsive.

03:10:38.000 I would watch him spar these giants, and they would go full, and I was just like so horrified.

03:10:43.000 And you didn't even warm up.

03:10:44.000 You guys would just start banging.

03:10:45.000 I was like, that's so ridiculous.

03:10:48.000 He literally wouldn't warm up.

03:10:49.000 I'm not kidding.

03:10:50.000 That's so ridiculous to fight three three days after being KO'd.

03:10:55.000 We just didn't know any better.

03:10:56.000 And then people like, oh, Shop doesn't have a chin.

03:10:58.000 It's like, yeah, yes and no.

03:11:00.000 Fuck you, yeah.

03:11:01.000 I got knocked out by Carwin right before this.

03:11:03.000 You had your fucking nose shattered by Crow Cop. 1.00

03:11:08.000 It's just such a nutty sport, man.

03:11:10.000 Yeah, it is.

03:11:11.000 Last round.

03:11:12.000 It's also the best sport.

03:11:13.000 It's the best sport.

03:11:14.000 Yeah.

03:11:16.000 I mean, it's everything.

03:11:17.000 The thing is sparring in practice.

03:11:19.000 Correct.

03:11:19.000 It's everything.

03:11:20.000 Yeah.

03:11:21.000 It requires everything, that's for sure.

03:11:22.000 Well, the thing is, it's like it transcends all languages, cultures, everything.

03:11:27.000 Everybody can watch this and know exactly what's happening.

03:11:28.000 But also to your point, Joe, you're watching this.

03:11:30.000 You're knowing these guys are taking years off their lives.

03:11:32.000 Yep.

03:11:33.000 Like that's what you're dealing with.

03:11:34.000 I love when people say horseback riding uses every muscle in your body.

03:11:37.000 Like there's some fights, like Justin Gagey, Tony Ferguson, that are hard to watch.

03:11:40.000 Yeah.

03:11:41.000 Right?

03:11:41.000 It's hard to watch.

03:11:42.000 That's horrible.

03:11:44.000 Yeah.

03:11:44.000 Well, it's a good thing.

03:11:45.000 That's also how this game goes.

03:11:47.000 It's how the game goes.

03:11:47.000 He's tough.

03:11:48.000 He didn't want to quit.

03:11:49.000 He was trying to fight to the bitter end.

03:11:51.000 Um, fucking nice one.

03:11:54.000 Oh my god.

03:11:54.000 That's the ultimate example.

03:11:57.000 Great example.

03:11:58.000 That's like that's also like that's that that's like you lost five years of your blank off that fight.

03:12:02.000 Boxing they would stop for.

03:12:03.000 That's the name of the fucking game.

03:12:05.000 Yeah.

03:12:06.000 But it's like when it's expressed that purely.

03:12:09.000 Yeah.

03:12:09.000 It's like something special to watch.

03:12:10.000 I mean, it's a horrifically violent fight.

03:12:12.000 The two fights that one was the Ferguson Gaiche fight and the other was uh the Ortega Olofski uh Volkonovsky fight.

03:12:20.000 That was awful.

03:12:21.000 I would have stopped that way earlier.

03:12:24.000 We knew who the winner was.

03:12:26.000 There's a few fights where you just go, oh, I wish this guy would just stop.

03:12:32.000 Just the corner would say this isn't enough.

03:12:33.000 That's when your corner has to throw in the towel because fighters are too tough for the fucking Frankie and Gray Manor. 0.78

03:12:38.000 Oh my god.

03:12:39.000 But he won.

03:12:40.000 But imagine if it's a woman towel. 1.00

03:12:42.000 You're still in the towel, then he fucking loses.

03:12:44.000 So in his prime, Frankie Edgar was a fucking durable dude.

03:12:47.000 And the thing about him was he was a real 155. 0.96

03:12:50.000 He wasn't sucked weight.

03:12:51.000 An actual 55.

03:12:52.000 He actually weighed 155.

03:12:54.000 He's beaten these dudes who are cutting crazy weight.

03:12:56.000 Didn't he fight 45?

03:12:57.000 He did eventually later, yeah.

03:12:59.000 And then he fought 35.

03:13:01.000 Yep.

03:13:03.000 He's about to fight bare knuckle, right?

03:13:05.000 He's getting a million bucks, though.

03:13:07.000 Is he really?

03:13:07.000 Yep.

03:13:08.000 Whoa.

03:13:09.000 For real?

03:13:10.000 For real?

03:13:10.000 For real.

03:13:11.000 Damn.

03:13:13.000 I get it.

03:13:14.000 Poked again.

03:13:14.000 Yeah.

03:13:15.000 Fuck yeah, I get it.

03:13:16.000 Three, three two-minute rounds.

03:13:17.000 Fucking.

03:13:18.000 You got poked in the eye again.

03:13:19.000 Barhallio got poked in the room.

03:13:20.000 You might have to give him a point.

03:13:21.000 He's fighting Jimmy Rivera, who's no punk, but million bucks, they're gonna give you a good matchup.

03:13:25.000 Jamie Rivera was good in the UFC.

03:13:28.000 He was on my face.

03:13:29.000 Solid striker.

03:13:30.000 Yeah.

03:13:31.000 Like very compact.

03:13:32.000 Yeah.

03:13:32.000 Fred.

03:13:34.000 Dude.

03:13:35.000 Needing the balls, poked twice.

03:13:36.000 Fuck.

03:13:37.000 He's gonna give him a point.

03:13:39.000 Yeah, sometimes I think I have a problem because I watch every fight.

03:13:42.000 Pretty limbs up.

03:13:43.000 I watch every fight.

03:13:44.000 Then I'll watch BYB, Backyard Brawling.

03:13:47.000 I'll watch BKFC.

03:13:49.000 Uh whatever fight, I'll I'll just I'd watch all the things.

03:13:51.000 So you think you have a problem because you like it?

03:13:53.000 I can't get enough of it.

03:13:54.000 We're all watching it right now.

03:13:55.000 We're having fun.

03:13:56.000 Like, why would that be bad?

03:13:58.000 Yeah, but like I'll go home and watch the pre-lambs and shit.

03:14:01.000 I probably will too.

03:14:02.000 Yeah.

03:14:02.000 There's a few fighters on the prelims that I'm I'd like to check out.

03:14:05.000 And then I also like to watch some of the fights that I was talking through.

03:14:08.000 Me too.

03:14:08.000 Yeah, you you haven't out to watch the floor.

03:14:10.000 You haven't lost your enthusiasm for watching fights in ever.

03:14:13.000 You know, Mike Harry, Jeremy Steve Stevens.

03:14:15.000 Fucking take my money.

03:14:17.000 Mike's that is gonna be crazy.

03:14:24.000 It's tough to watch the chicks turn each other into a pole. 1.00

03:14:26.000 I don't like it.

03:14:26.000 Especially when Paige Van Ant was fighting.

03:14:28.000 I'm like, please don't.

03:14:30.000 I know.

03:14:30.000 Save your face, girl.

03:14:31.000 When they're ugly, it's fucked up the same.

03:14:33.000 Oh Hollywood just cracked him and oh bro.

03:14:36.000 Bro, these guys.

03:14:37.000 Oh my clip.

03:14:41.000 Watch your fingers, bro.

03:14:42.000 He's gotta watch his fucking fingers, man.

03:14:44.000 Annihilate.

03:14:44.000 So what is he doing?

03:14:45.000 Is he sticking his hands forward to my body?

03:14:47.000 Every time he comes through, he comes in with his fingers.

03:14:49.000 That's a big fucking thing.

03:14:50.000 Look at that.

03:14:50.000 He's got his he's poking his face.

03:14:51.000 Yeah, you can't do that.

03:14:53.000 Oh my god, he's totally doing it.

03:14:54.000 No, it's a big problem because it fucks your whole rhythm up and everything else.

03:14:57.000 Also, and then you can take advantage of it.

03:14:59.000 Bro, he's doing it again.

03:15:00.000 I know.

03:15:00.000 It's also a way to become world champion.

03:15:02.000 That's true.

03:15:02.000 He keeps he keeps getting to body locks and unlocking locks his handle.

03:15:06.000 And he lets go.

03:15:07.000 See how the mouse feels some kind of danger.

03:15:08.000 Now he's got proper shots.

03:15:09.000 Barhallo's worrying about those fucking fingers.

03:15:11.000 He like shoots a shitty shot.

03:15:14.000 And then let's go.

03:15:14.000 Let's go.

03:15:15.000 I know, it's very strange.

03:15:20.000 I don't know.

03:15:21.000 Like a takedown would be big.

03:15:22.000 Huge.

03:15:23.000 Yeah.

03:15:24.000 But it is kind of wind weird that Goddard isn't like saying anything while he's extending his face.

03:15:29.000 He's literally not supposed to do that.

03:15:31.000 I know.

03:15:31.000 That's I mean, what is the law?

03:15:35.000 I think that is the rule.

03:15:36.000 I can't have his fists.

03:15:37.000 Can't be doing this when people are trying to jump and you can't extend.

03:15:40.000 He can't go out like this and you're up.

03:15:42.000 Nope.

03:15:42.000 No, fuck.

03:15:43.000 Can't extend any fingers now.

03:15:45.000 Can you do this?

03:15:46.000 Because now every time you go in, you're worried about getting poked in your eye.

03:15:49.000 Well, why are we why do we have extended fingers in the first place?

03:15:52.000 Why don't we cover those things with leather? 0.92

03:15:55.000 We've been over this, man.

03:15:57.000 Yeah, we didn't cover it again.

03:16:00.000 Someone's not listening to us.

03:16:02.000 Look, eye pokes are a real problem.

03:16:04.000 But but the fingers like this, they don't help you with grappling.

03:16:08.000 You don't do it.

03:16:09.000 Here's the problem.

03:16:10.000 So they changed the gloves before knockdowns went down like 60%.

03:16:13.000 So UFC's all fuck that.

03:16:15.000 But the the real issue is is as soon as Immavov touches his eye, you should automatically deduct a point.

03:16:21.000 I guarantee you he doesn't do it again.

03:16:23.000 The reason he's getting away with it is because hey, don't do that again.

03:16:26.000 He's like, yeah, no doubt.

03:16:27.000 That's a very complex.

03:16:29.000 That's true, too.

03:16:29.000 If you take if there's no if there's absolutely black and white.

03:16:34.000 You touch their fucking eye, you lose a point, guys are gonna stop doing it.

03:16:38.000 A hundred percent.

03:16:38.000 But they're too loosey goose.

03:16:41.000 And nutshots, too.

03:16:42.000 Any nutshot, fence grab, any of that shit.

03:16:44.000 We take a point.

03:16:45.000 Signed up for a while.

03:16:49.000 You don't even get hurt, but you can pretend you got hurt.

03:16:51.000 Yep.

03:16:51.000 And then you get a few.

03:16:52.000 Six seconds.

03:16:52.000 Six.

03:16:53.000 Oh, oh! 0.58

03:16:53.000 Oh! 0.58

03:16:54.000 He caught him twice.

03:16:55.000 Oh shit.

03:16:56.000 Oh no.

03:16:57.000 Oh no.

03:17:02.000 What a fight.

03:17:03.000 What a fight, dude.

03:17:04.000 That was a crazy fight.

03:17:05.000 Football.

03:17:05.000 Immoved decision.

03:17:06.000 It's like decisions.

03:17:09.000 I'm thinking maybe I'm avaff here.

03:17:10.000 I don't know.

03:17:10.000 But I looked like him a decision.

03:17:13.000 When a fight like that, like it's almost like it takes a couple of seconds for these dudes could chill and hug each other.

03:17:18.000 Oh yeah.

03:17:18.000 You know what I mean?

03:17:19.000 Like for a couple seconds.

03:17:20.000 Yeah, that was like remember Robbie Waller after he fought fucking uh was it um uh Henderson?

03:17:26.000 Uh Tommy Hendrix?

03:17:28.000 Johnny Hendrix, yeah.

03:17:29.000 And and just after he won after the fight, he just kept looking at him like this, just sitting there with his lip all fucking. 0.78

03:17:34.000 I mean, he's so game.

03:17:35.000 Robbie Lawler, they I don't know if you make a human being tougher than Robbie Lawler.

03:17:41.000 Yeah, one of the greatest knockouts of all time is him versus Melvin.

03:17:44.000 Oh my god, and Melvin Model was eating his legs. 1.00

03:17:47.000 Eating his legs locking him up like bowling pants.

03:17:49.000 And remember, remember in New York when they were protesting and he was on the bus.

03:17:53.000 No.

03:17:53.000 Oh yeah.

03:17:54.000 He was on the bus.

03:17:54.000 They're they're they're you know, they're protesting on the streets, and there was a UFC fucking like black van filled with fighters.

03:18:02.000 Oh And Robbie Lawler's one of them.

03:18:04.000 And everyone's like, oh my God, they're about to break in.

03:18:06.000 And he goes, Sit down, conserve your energy.

03:18:08.000 We're gonna need it.

03:18:09.000 Those doors open, they're gonna have problems.

03:18:11.000 And think of about Robbie Lawler walks off that fucking bus.

03:18:15.000 And some blue-haired lady's like, you son of a bitch! 1.00

03:18:18.000 Yeah, yeah, enjoy that.

03:18:20.000 He competed for Maya.

03:18:21.000 What was that protest about?

03:18:23.000 Was it a Gaza protest?

03:18:24.000 Was that what it was?

03:18:25.000 Yeah, it was Black Lives Matter, I think.

03:18:26.000 Was it?

03:18:27.000 Yeah.

03:18:28.000 So what year was this?

03:18:29.000 And they do matter, Joe.

03:18:30.000 I've always said they do.

03:18:32.000 What what year was that?

03:18:34.000 When all the chaos is going on.

03:18:36.000 Yeah.

03:18:37.000 Has that always been there?

03:18:38.000 That that guy profile picture.

03:18:41.000 Really?

03:18:41.000 Yeah.

03:18:42.000 Palestinian protests.

03:18:43.000 The Palestinian protest.

03:18:44.000 And the fighters have nothing to do with it.

03:18:46.000 They're just trying to get to the arena.

03:18:47.000 So it was a Gaza thing.

03:18:48.000 So this was what time was this?

03:18:49.000 What what year was this, Jeremy?

03:18:52.000 Two years ago.

03:18:53.000 2023.

03:18:54.000 Yeah.

03:18:54.000 Wow, isn't that crazy that Gaza shit's been going on that long?

03:18:57.000 Have you seen what Gaza looks like now?

03:18:59.000 Like the surface of the moon.

03:19:01.000 Oh, here it goes.

03:19:05.000 4946, it seems like.

03:19:09.000 Immavab for sure.

03:19:11.000 Nasard Dean Imamov.

03:19:13.000 Wow.

03:19:13.000 He's not getting home.

03:19:15.000 Yeah.

03:19:15.000 You called it.

03:19:17.000 Well, I mean, who else then?

03:19:18.000 Who's getting competition?

03:19:20.000 The winner of RDR Fluffy.

03:19:22.000 Well, it really depends on what that fight looks like, right?

03:19:24.000 Because this was a fucking war.

03:19:26.000 This was a good fight.

03:19:28.000 He might not have stopped him, but he put on a show.

03:19:32.000 Both of their stock went out the bottom.

03:19:33.000 But they both went after it.

03:19:34.000 Yeah.

03:19:35.000 It was a good fight.

03:19:36.000 You didn't think it was a good fight?

03:19:38.000 It's a good fight.

03:19:38.000 It ain't gonna get you a title shot.

03:19:40.000 Hmm.

03:19:41.000 Interesting.

03:19:41.000 Well, what would be based off the UFC's standards?

03:19:46.000 Okay, but like who is the big star behind these guys now?

03:19:50.000 Beh behind Imav. 0.89

03:19:51.000 So Imamov just has this great performance.

03:19:53.000 He's ranked number two.

03:19:54.000 He's on TV, right?

03:19:56.000 Who's the big star other than him?

03:19:58.000 You mean to fight God?

03:20:00.000 Could jump him?

03:20:01.000 Fluffy and Fluffy and RDR.

03:20:02.000 If there's a finish there, they're guaranteed to get it.

03:20:04.000 If they get a finish, which that fight should be a finish.

03:20:07.000 But let's say that one's boring too.

03:20:08.000 Your biggest star is Strickland.

03:20:10.000 Right.

03:20:11.000 He's the biggest star.

03:20:12.000 And he beat it.

03:20:13.000 And he beat him of us.

03:20:14.000 And I'll talk shit.

03:20:15.000 Right.

03:20:15.000 So he can build that fight for a pay-per-view.

03:20:17.000 Although there's no pay-per-views.

03:20:18.000 I wonder if he can get right back in there like that.

03:20:20.000 He he comes back in November, December if you're not going to be able to do it.

03:20:23.000 Right, but does he go right back into a title shot or does he have to fight somebody?

03:20:26.000 Because he he lost to Dricus.

03:20:28.000 Yep.

03:20:28.000 Hasn't lost anybody since then.

03:20:30.000 Uh-oh.

03:20:31.000 That was quite a while ago.

03:20:32.000 And that fight with Trickus was pretty close.

03:20:34.000 Well, he also win in the first one.

03:20:36.000 Yeah.

03:20:36.000 You know, he also had staff going into that second fight.

03:20:39.000 Which is a way bigger deal than you would think.

03:20:40.000 Yeah.

03:20:41.000 Wow.

03:20:42.000 Yeah, drain your car.

03:20:43.000 Just because of the the air gotta take the antibiotics and fucking antibiotics and just the staff itself. 0.89

03:20:48.000 Zap energy and cardio.

03:20:50.000 Really?

03:20:50.000 Yeah, and you're also fighting one of the most physical guys in the division who's a fucking bulldog.

03:20:56.000 Drick is an animal.

03:20:57.000 Yeah.

03:20:57.000 He never gets tired, comes fucking throwing haymakers at you.

03:21:00.000 He keeps punching.

03:21:01.000 What do you do with DDP now?

03:21:03.000 I don't know.

03:21:04.000 It's a good question.

03:21:04.000 Is it crazy?

03:21:05.000 Like he was UFC champion, the king of the world, on top, and then just gets manhandled for that.

03:21:13.000 He's gonna turn to a gatekeeper until he thinks he's ready for a title shot again.

03:21:17.000 If Hamza keeps it.

03:21:18.000 But it's like, but it's tough if he needs Hamza to either move up or move on, you know?

03:21:23.000 But because it's no one wants to see that for five rounds.

03:21:26.000 Well, let me say this.

03:21:27.000 You're a grappling expert.

03:21:29.000 Alright.

03:21:29.000 If they hired you, if they said, listen, we know we have to make some changes and we we want a real genius to look at my game.

03:21:35.000 What it what can I do?

03:21:38.000 If I work with DDP seven days a week for a year.

03:21:43.000 Jesus Christ.

03:21:44.000 He could be a bare minimum competitive with the comms out that he fought.

03:21:50.000 At the bare minimum.

03:21:51.000 But then remember, if he does that with you seven days a week, he has to forego all his other shit.

03:21:55.000 Probably should do that anyway.

03:21:57.000 Yep.

03:21:57.000 Right.

03:21:58.000 How about that?

03:21:59.000 What a choice is he.

03:22:01.000 What a return story that is.

03:22:03.000 So that that's that's that's the issue is you need to split everything up.

03:22:06.000 But there's right now there's such a discrepancy in the grappling that that needs to take priority.

03:22:11.000 Like he he could do grappling seven days a week and then spend time keeping his other skills sharp or striking sharp.

03:22:18.000 In the morning.

03:22:19.000 Um, but he just got dominated across the board when it came to grappling.

03:22:23.000 Like he couldn't, he couldn't not only could he not stop the takedown, but he also couldn't get up.

03:22:28.000 And when he did get position on Hamzat, he couldn't hold it.

03:22:30.000 Correct.

03:22:31.000 So I wonder what's like a a protocol where you uh like if you continue to add work, like if you start off with 10 miles, then you want to work to 11 and 12 and 13, You start off like training in MMA.

03:22:45.000 You start off at this pace, and then you you have a heart rate monitor on, you want to push it faster and harder.

03:22:50.000 Like I wonder what the fucking threshold is if we've even seen it yet.

03:22:54.000 I really wonder.

03:22:55.000 Because we've always had these ideas before guys like Mirab, but there's these physical limitations.

03:23:00.000 Yeah.

03:23:00.000 That a guy can't fight every minute of every round.

03:23:03.000 But yeah, they can.

03:23:05.000 So like are we there yet?

03:23:06.000 Or is this like one of those things where no one knows yet because they have limited up here?

03:23:10.000 Yeah.

03:23:11.000 Yeah, because it's like the four minute mile.

03:23:13.000 Oh.

03:23:14.000 You know, there's there's things like that.

03:23:17.000 Yeah.

03:23:17.000 Where guys just have to see it, they go, hold on, that's possible.

03:23:20.000 And then like, well, if he can do it, I can do it.

03:23:23.000 I know, it's nuts.

03:23:25.000 And then really in this form is only 20 years old.

03:23:29.000 Because like 2005, go back and watch a 2005 UFC fight.

03:23:32.000 It's pretty different.

03:23:33.000 Pretty different.

03:23:35.000 Yeah, pretty different.

03:23:36.000 The athletes, the technique.

03:23:37.000 It's there's nothing like this.

03:23:39.000 There's no other sport like this.

03:23:41.000 If you look at the sport now, like you have guys who are like specialists in one thing, and then you know, like Pereira's a great striker, and then he's like decent everywhere else, or you know, could be a great grappler, and then he's you know, got decent striking.

03:23:55.000 You know, 20 years from now, people are gonna be specialists in fucking everything.

03:23:58.000 Yeah, they're gonna be doing it from the time they're kids.

03:24:00.000 Like, like see, we we've said that, but we haven't seen it.

03:24:03.000 Like they they said that 10 years ago.

03:24:05.000 They've said that, and it did for whatever reason, you might be right, you might be right, but the these the specialists have always dominated.

03:24:11.000 Yeah.

03:24:11.000 They've always thing is it's like if you're a specialist, they're also just meatheads, so that's another issue.

03:24:18.000 Fair.

03:24:18.000 I'm not sure.

03:24:19.000 But coming from a fellow meathead, but the th because those guys that are specials are so dominant in that one aspect that it blankets everything else.

03:24:27.000 So they control where the fights could be.

03:24:30.000 Like like the the the finality of of MMA, in my opinion, should be a situation where a generalist MMA fighter can be competitive with specialists across the board in every martial art.

03:24:43.000 So could hold it can you can hold its own, hold his own with the world's best boxer, his weight, world's best jujitsu guy, his weight, world's best wrestler and his weight.

03:24:50.000 That's hard.

03:24:51.000 Well's best achievement.

03:24:51.000 See, I don't think that's possible, Gordon.

03:24:54.000 Listen who you're talking to, dog.

03:24:56.000 But you might be able to do that.

03:24:58.000 Some authentic protege that's willing to put it in the hours in the day.

03:25:04.000 So so for for example, like uh You know what I'm saying?

03:25:06.000 So for peptide for example, um like with wrestling, like I'm that I know I'm never gonna be the best freestyle wrestler in in the world, but under an ADCC rule set I can hang with anyone, any Olympic champion under ADCC score scoring criteria in a wrestling match.

03:25:23.000 So like you're not gonna be not the MMA guys won't be beating the best guys in their domain, but they can be competitive enough with the best guys in the world.

03:25:31.000 Where they're not gonna get finished.

03:25:32.000 Yeah.

03:25:33.000 Like like they're they they won't, you know, if uh if a guy is if you know this finality I'm talking about, if a guy is wrestling in the Olympic champion, maybe he gets taken down four times for every two that he hits.

03:25:46.000 So he was losing every match, but it's at least competitive.

03:25:50.000 Stuff like that.

03:25:50.000 So he's getting finished, you know, every for every one finish.

03:25:54.000 Who's the closest it's ever come to putting it all together?

03:25:57.000 Well, GSP.

03:25:58.000 I think George.

03:25:59.000 George and John.

03:26:00.000 But I but I also think the only way he can get to that point is getting real athletes in the UFC.

03:26:05.000 Like legit athletes where guys, whether they're gonna be all stars in the MLB or NFL, they start coming over to the UFC and we're not seeing that, and it's it's because it it's just it's kind of the nature of the way America's set up.

03:26:18.000 And it it's not that it's not just the athletes too.

03:26:20.000 You they need to be extremely intelligent athletes.

03:26:23.000 Correct.

03:26:24.000 But it's the same thing with like the reason Dagestanis are so dominant in fighting is because they're not their athletes, aren't playing football, they're not playing soccer, they're not playing baseball.

03:26:32.000 They're literally all all those young men are just doing wrestling.

03:26:36.000 It's embraced by the culture.

03:26:37.000 Yeah, and here in America, like even I've talked to Eddie about it.

03:26:41.000 Like you I'm like, your kid's not fucking uh savant and jiu-jitsu, like, no, because friends aren't doing it.

03:26:47.000 They want to do what their friends are doing, so his friend's playing baseball, so he played baseball.

03:26:51.000 Yeah, what's cool?

03:26:52.000 So it's a it's a cultural thing.

03:26:54.000 Yeah, you c you can't compete in the fucking national sport, is fucking people up.

03:26:59.000 No, yeah.

03:27:00.000 It's like their national.

03:27:01.000 But then they can't compete.

03:27:02.000 They can't compete with us.

03:27:04.000 When it comes to other sports, not even fucking close.

03:27:06.000 No, not even close.

03:27:07.000 Put a basketball.

03:27:08.000 Good luck.

03:27:08.000 Yeah.

03:27:09.000 Didn't they do a uh football game at Sao Paulo yesterday?

03:27:12.000 Yeah, they did.

03:27:13.000 That's wild.

03:27:13.000 Chief charges.

03:27:14.000 That's wild.

03:27:16.000 No, they lost.

03:27:16.000 Really?

03:27:17.000 Yeah.

03:27:17.000 Wow.

03:27:17.000 Have you ever been to a the because they watch soccer?

03:27:19.000 Do you ever been to a football game?

03:27:21.000 Like a soccer game rather?

03:27:22.000 Yeah.

03:27:23.000 What they call football.

03:27:24.000 No.

03:27:24.000 Yeah.

03:27:24.000 Like a real one?

03:27:25.000 Yeah.

03:27:26.000 Have you been?

03:27:26.000 Yeah.

03:27:27.000 Is it cool?

03:27:27.000 It's fun.

03:27:28.000 First of all, there's no breaks.

03:27:30.000 Like, you know why they can't have it on TV?

03:27:32.000 Because there's no room for commercial.

03:27:33.000 No commercial here.

03:27:34.000 They don't take time off.

03:27:35.000 You have to be in shit.

03:27:35.000 I love watching the World Cup.

03:27:37.000 They're on the average 10 miles.

03:27:38.000 These dudes all have crazy fucking legs. 0.99

03:27:41.000 Like ridiculous.

03:27:42.000 And the streamlined upper bodies.

03:27:44.000 Yeah.

03:27:44.000 And they're just fucking cardio machines.

03:27:47.000 And soccer, if you see soccer in Europe, they those kids start at like people like Messi and all of them.

03:27:52.000 They start at six, even younger, and they go to special schools where all they do is play soccer.

03:27:59.000 That's the only thing.

03:28:01.000 So I have a Ty got a buddy in LA, and his dad was from England, and he was the best seven-year-old I've ever seen in soccer.

03:28:09.000 Yeah, I was like, what the fuck are we doing?

03:28:11.000 His dad played semi probe, so he grew up doing it.

03:28:13.000 His footwork, I was like, this is insane.

03:28:15.000 And then he just wasn't at school one day.

03:28:17.000 I'm like, where the fuck is this kid at?

03:28:19.000 And Tiger's like, oh, he moved to England.

03:28:21.000 So I text his dad who has buddies with him.

03:28:23.000 I'm like, yo, man, what the fuck?

03:28:24.000 He's like, oh, Manchester United picked him up.

03:28:27.000 I'm like, yeah.

03:28:28.000 He's seven.

03:28:29.000 He goes, yeah, he's in the feeder program.

03:28:30.000 They take the feeder program.

03:28:31.000 It goes all the way up.

03:28:32.000 All the way up.

03:28:33.000 Oh that is kids but most of those kids don't make it.

03:28:37.000 So what happens is you play your whole life and you don't make it on the Premier League.

03:28:42.000 And now you're just a good soccer player.

03:28:45.000 And thanks for the time.

03:28:46.000 Oh tennis is a good thing.

03:28:49.000 There's no guarantee in anything.

03:28:51.000 Nothing.

03:28:52.000 Nothing.

03:28:52.000 Now it's new sports.

03:28:54.000 Tennis is the same way.

03:28:54.000 Tennis that they're talking about.

03:28:55.000 It's a privilege.

03:28:56.000 It's not a right.

03:28:58.000 Pro sports.

03:28:58.000 It's very cut through.

03:28:59.000 Yeah.

03:29:00.000 And the most cutthroat is when you're fucking throwing bones at each other inside a cage in your underwear.

03:29:06.000 This is the most cutthroat.

03:29:07.000 The most cut throat.

03:29:08.000 And the shortest career expansion.

03:29:09.000 Yeah.

03:29:10.000 Year and a half.

03:29:11.000 Yeah.

03:29:11.000 It's the thing about like someone like Aaron Pico, who was wrestling on the international circuit at 16 years old, and boxing.

03:29:18.000 So that he was raised boxing.

03:29:20.000 Yeah.

03:29:20.000 He was amazing.

03:29:21.000 And so his skill set is so complete.

03:29:24.000 But then there are little there are those little factors, right?

03:29:27.000 You rush.

03:29:28.000 Maybe maybe you're maybe when in the big show, you kind of you Yeah, but forget about him.

03:29:33.000 What about Lerone?

03:29:34.000 Lerone has been quietly one of the most elite guys that no one talks about in that division.

03:29:40.000 But because that division's too crazy.

03:29:42.000 That division is just filled with animals.

03:29:44.000 It's crazy.

03:29:45.000 It's all assassins.

03:29:46.000 It's like a sh fucking just a killer's den.

03:29:48.000 Yeah.

03:29:48.000 So LaRone had to make a big statement, and that was a big one.

03:29:51.000 But to Gordon's point, like when you're talking about like smart fighters, that's the difference.

03:29:56.000 Like a John Jones IQs through the fucking roof.

03:29:58.000 Yeah.

03:29:59.000 Tom Hasmell.

03:29:59.000 Like those chain like Izzy's a very smart strickland is a smart guy.

03:30:04.000 His fight IQ is very high.

03:30:06.000 Staying injury free is a huge thing.

03:30:08.000 Strickland's invested all his money too, you know.

03:30:10.000 Wicked smart money.

03:30:12.000 He's of course.

03:30:13.000 Yeah, you think he's an idiot because he says crazy.

03:30:15.000 But that's also why he's famous.

03:30:16.000 Smart Fox.

03:30:17.000 Yeah.

03:30:18.000 Playing the game.

03:30:18.000 Any of those guys.

03:30:19.000 Like I always look at like how well do you stay injury free?

03:30:23.000 You know, how do you train?

03:30:24.000 How how much damage do you take in training while getting better?

03:30:27.000 Which is really it's a whole science.

03:30:29.000 That's why I was talking to what I love about Brian Shaw.

03:30:32.000 He deadlifting 1,200 pounds for 13 years in a row.

03:30:35.000 And and one of the few guys who really didn't get injured.

03:30:38.000 That's nice, but he's friends with Jordan Peterson.

03:30:40.000 So pass.

03:30:40.000 I know pass.

03:30:43.000 Exactly.

03:30:44.000 How big is he, by the way?

03:30:45.000 Remember I brought him to the green room?

03:30:46.000 Dude, it's not even a human.

03:30:47.000 It's so weird.

03:30:48.000 Vikings, like whatever whatever those thing is, this is Brian's.

03:30:53.000 Something from the Brian.

03:30:54.000 Something from the Bible.

03:30:55.000 I thought I'm a private.

03:30:56.000 Oh, you did, right?

03:30:57.000 Ha ha.

03:30:58.000 What was that?

03:30:59.000 I made him drill big Dan.

03:31:00.000 I'm like, I'm not fucking drilled.

03:31:02.000 That's funny.

03:31:02.000 He was like, I want to do MMA.

03:31:04.000 So he's like, we did like a little bit of a few.

03:31:05.000 Oh, that's right.

03:31:06.000 MMA fight.

03:31:06.000 We did like some stuff on like kind of Tom A, like arm triangles from Mount.

03:31:10.000 And we did some wall wrestling stuff.

03:31:11.000 And then his fight back didn't happen, right?

03:31:13.000 No, it didn't happen.

03:31:15.000 But he he was he was serious.

03:31:17.000 I brought him with Cody Donovan.

03:31:18.000 I brought he went to high school.

03:31:19.000 Dude, bro, he's 400 pounds.

03:31:21.000 Dude, he's drilling with fucking Big Dan on the wall.

03:31:24.000 And I'm like showing him like dumping a single as the guy's leg second leg comes towards you, locking it double and putting him down.

03:31:29.000 And I'm just like, I grabbed Dan, I just like circled him down.

03:31:32.000 Dude, Dan's six foot seven, three hundred and thirty pounds.

03:31:36.000 So Brian just does the first move, locks both legs, and just picks him up over his head.

03:31:40.000 He's like and fucking puts him down on the ground.

03:31:43.000 He did the same thing with Derek Wolf.

03:31:44.000 Derek Wolf's all-star 285 pounds, like you know, one for Viking.

03:31:48.000 And just picked him up.

03:31:50.000 Derek was like, it's it's so suffocating.

03:31:52.000 He just got underhooks and I'm gonna pick you up and move you over here and just throw you. 1.00

03:31:56.000 I mean, you're not doing anything with so that's like in the Bible.

03:32:00.000 Like guys like that.

03:32:01.000 He's he's Goliath.

03:32:02.000 Yeah, the guys who come over the hill and everyone runs because they're giants.

03:32:06.000 They did a decorative.

03:32:07.000 It can't be just one of him, right?

03:32:09.000 What he is is like the the echoes of the past.

03:32:11.000 Well, they they looked at his bones.

03:32:14.000 His bone density, he said, it doesn't have giantism, actually.

03:32:16.000 It's a different thing.

03:32:17.000 He had his bone density is uh is is they've never quite seen anything like it.

03:32:22.000 He has the I think the densest bones they've ever recorded.

03:32:25.000 They said it's one in five hundred million people have bones out dense.

03:32:29.000 Jesus, him and the hippo?

03:32:30.000 Him and like four other dudes on earth.

03:32:32.000 He's got a rhino, he's got rhino rhino muscles.

03:32:35.000 No, he's a real freak.

03:32:36.000 But it's weird just when you're standing next to him, like, okay, this is a different thing.

03:32:39.000 Like this is a gorilla.

03:32:40.000 Oh, this is a chill.

03:32:41.000 Did you ever hear Andy Galpin talk about they took uh muscle tissue from one of these uh one of the greatest Olympic lifters of all time?

03:32:48.000 And this guy not only been training, but had been taking a certain, you know, certain Russian, you know, concoctions.

03:32:55.000 And they found that his muscle fibers were akin to a rhinos.

03:33:02.000 Like the density were akin to I'm gonna say it again, uh fucking rhino.

03:33:08.000 Ladies and gentlemen, like it was a different density.

03:33:10.000 Some people are just different, like I'm around kids all the time.

03:33:13.000 You can just grab a kid and you're like, dude, what the f you're pretty you're pretty banned at hell my grapple fucking Thor.

03:33:19.000 Oh my god.

03:33:21.000 It was like the best part is I he's like, I want to do a private.

03:33:23.000 I was at the I was at the PI because uh we were doing UFC fight pass the next day.

03:33:27.000 So I had to compete the next day.

03:33:29.000 So I taught him private, I'm like, I can't train because John will kill me if I get hurt, and you're pretty likely to injure me because you're fucking 450 pounds.

03:33:36.000 You so big.

03:33:37.000 So we do a private, and the cowboy guy's like, can we just do one roll?

03:33:39.000 Can we just do one roll?

03:33:40.000 So I'm like, fuck.

03:33:42.000 I like a look around, and like I see John like doing his fucking workout in the in the corner, and I'm just like, alright, he's like a hundred feet away.

03:33:48.000 He probably won't see us start rolling.

03:33:49.000 And when we're already rolling them, already be too late.

03:33:51.000 I'm like, all right, fuck it, let's do it.

03:33:53.000 And that guy is just like I think he was I think he was close to 400 pounds, maybe when we last time I saw him.

03:33:59.000 I think I saw the light.

03:34:00.000 You got him.

03:34:00.000 And um I let him start in top side control because we're doing side control.

03:34:04.000 First of all, I was doing it.

03:34:05.000 I was I was teaching him and uh Martins Leechus, or I don't know how to pronounce his last name, uh, and other strong men, side control escapes.

03:34:13.000 And they immediately, I'm like, just drill the move.

03:34:16.000 They immediately just one of them's bottom side control, one of them's top side control, and it just immediately degenerates into a full live roll.

03:34:22.000 They're just they're just fighting from side control for the full hour, and I'm like, I just drilled the move, and they're like, they just can't do it.

03:34:29.000 So that's I let them both start from top side control.

03:34:32.000 So Thor locks on from top side control, and I'm like, alright, go.

03:34:36.000 And he squeezes me so hard that I'm like, if he could do this for 20 seconds, he's gonna asphyxiate me.

03:34:41.000 Just by like, just like my I have my lungs cannot expand from this position.

03:34:46.000 Um so like I just like brought my knee and elbow together and like swept him and and like mounted him and I saw him.

03:34:53.000 I saw him right after.

03:34:54.000 I I finished him in like 30 seconds.

03:34:56.000 Um and I did it with Martins too, who actually wrestled in high school, so he was a little bit more self-like aware, like with his body.

03:35:01.000 Um he was actually a little bit harder to deal with.

03:35:03.000 But I had like a six sweep on him, and like as I went, he like used the momentum and just like rolled through.

03:35:08.000 I had like perfect body position.

03:35:09.000 He like went to go roll through.

03:35:10.000 I'm like, well, guess we're going back on bottom.

03:35:12.000 And then like I rolled him through again and then adjusted the second time, but it's it was interesting for sure.

03:35:17.000 I saw four.

03:35:18.000 I love that idea.

03:35:18.000 I didn't know.

03:35:19.000 I thought it took you 30 seconds, though.

03:35:21.000 It's like it was kind of tough because it took a 30 underpower.

03:35:24.000 I did a photo shoot with Thor right after he rolled with you and he was telling me about it.

03:35:27.000 He's like, Yeah, I went with this Gordon Ryan.

03:35:29.000 Oh, I'm like, yeah, that's my buddy.

03:35:30.000 I said, you know, he's like the Michael Jordan Jesus.

03:35:32.000 He's I I don't understand, man.

03:35:34.000 You had me just doing all this stuff, and I go, You thought you were gonna do well?

03:35:39.000 And he goes, Yeah, well, yeah.

03:35:40.000 I'm like, oh buddy, no, you just don't know.

03:35:43.000 Fucking chance, dude.

03:35:45.000 I was like, and he's probably going up 50%, man.

03:35:48.000 Yeah.

03:35:48.000 Well, that's like that's like they just don't know.

03:35:50.000 They had a pro come in, a big guy.

03:35:52.000 He he was a male stripper, but he had a couple pro fights in boxing, and he knocked he he brought another guy in and he knocked the dude out.

03:36:01.000 So you brought a guy in a spa.

03:36:02.000 Yeah, you're not supposed to do that.

03:36:03.000 So Wayne McCulloch, who fought at one nineteen.

03:36:07.000 No, this was at maybe uh maybe it was boxing birdie.

03:36:10.000 It might have been at uh no, it was at uh glove works.

03:36:12.000 You're doing time.

03:36:12.000 and yeah, I well I was, but he wasn't.

03:36:14.000 I was and he goes, uh Wayne goes, Hey, we don't do that here, you know, take it easy.

03:36:19.000 And the guy went like this to Wayne, stuck his tongue out, knocked his buddy out again.

03:36:24.000 Really dangerous.

03:36:24.000 You didn't twice.

03:36:25.000 Yes, really dangerous.

03:36:26.000 So Wayne goes, Wayne goes, stay in the ring.

03:36:29.000 And uh lights is doesn't even put uh headgear on.

03:36:33.000 And this giant dude, like 220, just jacked and juiced and kills, you know, he had his boxing, and Wayne just he has throws, and Wayne just goes, and hit him in the fucking in the liver.

03:36:44.000 And apparently I wasn't there.

03:36:46.000 I heard that he went, hey!

03:36:48.000 He made this high pitch, hey, and just fell to the ground, and that was all she wrote, kids just fucking ate his liver and said, Don't do that in my gym, and just got the fuck out.

03:36:59.000 Guys just don't know.

03:37:00.000 Yeah.

03:37:01.000 Yeah.

03:37:02.000 That's crazy.

03:37:02.000 Don't fuck around.

03:37:03.000 There's so many nuts that come into gyms and wants bar. 0.88

03:37:06.000 Bro, Tim uh Tim Kennedy and your boy Shane invited me to that arch type boxing.

03:37:10.000 Yeah, and he goes, Bring your son, I'll bring mine.

03:37:12.000 So when we're going, the kids would go.

03:37:14.000 So I bring my boys.

03:37:16.000 There's a bunch of guys there, and there's a guy, and he he has double uh knee braces on, which is always a red flag.

03:37:22.000 Double fucking knee brace.

03:37:23.000 I'm like, that's weird.

03:37:24.000 And he has his ears pairs, bald head.

03:37:25.000 I'm like, oh, this can't be good.

03:37:29.000 Double knee braces.

03:37:30.000 What kind of knee braces are we talking about?

03:37:32.000 Like the ones you get from Walgreens, you know, where he's gonna be able to do that.

03:37:34.000 Oh, have been washed the braces.

03:37:36.000 Yeah, yeah, and you're like this guy's a display.

03:37:38.000 And it was Chris Angel.

03:37:39.000 But he's talking, he's he's talking about UFC, whatever.

03:37:43.000 Now everyone in that group is a b a black belt. 1.00

03:37:46.000 Everyone.

03:37:47.000 Everybody's really tough.

03:37:48.000 Everyone's really good.

03:37:49.000 Yeah.

03:37:50.000 And we're we're you know, we're just we're move, we're moving around with each other, you know, sparring, and this new guy, and Tim goes, Hey, don't go with that guy.

03:37:58.000 And why he goes, dude, I didn't read my DMs.

03:38:00.000 Apparently I invited him like months ago and he fucking showed up.

03:38:03.000 I didn't know he was gonna be here today.

03:38:04.000 He goes, but I don't know him.

03:38:05.000 So he was trying to knock people out.

03:38:07.000 So he's going with his friend Shane, Shane Steiner.

03:38:10.000 Yeah.

03:38:10.000 And they're going, I see him grab Shane's head and go, boom, boom.

03:38:14.000 And Shane's like, Shane's very nice.

03:38:16.000 Shane's super nice.

03:38:17.000 And we're like, what the fuck?

03:38:19.000 Yeah, I mean, he's going, boom.

03:38:20.000 And you never do that.

03:38:21.000 We're just touch sparring.

03:38:22.000 No, he's going to be touched.

03:38:24.000 So I'm like, oh, buddy.

03:38:26.000 And then uh Tim goes, stop, stops around, stop, stop.

03:38:29.000 He goes, You and me.

03:38:30.000 You and me.

03:38:30.000 And that guy with the new brace goes, you and me are gonna go.

03:38:32.000 So I get my son, I go, watch this.

03:38:34.000 Watch this.

03:38:34.000 He goes, Why you go just watch, watch.

03:38:36.000 So Tim's like, You ready?

03:38:37.000 And the guy's like, yeah, me start the clock.

03:38:39.000 Like this, and then fucking Tim just fuck this dude up.

03:38:44.000 I mean, just annihilating.

03:38:46.000 And he was you good.

03:38:47.000 You good?

03:38:47.000 And the guy goes, I'm good, man.

03:38:49.000 I'm good.

03:38:49.000 And he's one of these guys who goes, I needed that.

03:38:51.000 I'm like, get the fuck.

03:38:52.000 And Tim, by the way, Tim, by the way, wasn't even.

03:38:54.000 I saw the video of that, and Tim was being very nice.

03:38:57.000 Yeah.

03:38:58.000 There's so many nutty dudes like that.

03:38:59.000 Fucked it.

03:39:00.000 What do you think was gonna happen, dude?

03:39:02.000 There's so many videos online where guys don't know how to box at all and they go into a gym.

03:39:05.000 Like doing put the gloves on me, man.

03:39:07.000 I'm a fucking street fighter.

03:39:09.000 Okay.

03:39:10.000 There's so many videos of those.

03:39:11.000 Do you see that troll that Deontay Wilder invited to his gym?

03:39:14.000 You came in, I'll fuck you up.

03:39:16.000 This little white dude in a wife beater shows up. 0.52

03:39:18.000 Oh, that kid's crazy.

03:39:20.000 Let's do it.

03:39:20.000 And Wilder's like, uh oh, sign these forms so you don't sue me.

03:39:24.000 Okay.

03:39:24.000 Put your gloves on and just fucking.

03:39:26.000 Well, he said he was saying shit about his daughter.

03:39:29.000 That guy, that guy's a mess.

03:39:30.000 He's actually truly crazy.

03:39:31.000 That doesn't matter.

03:39:32.000 Piece of shit.

03:39:33.000 You just invited him into your life.

03:39:34.000 Congratulations.

03:39:35.000 Yeah.

03:39:36.000 Yeah, I know.

03:39:37.000 Fucking nut time.

03:39:39.000 They're all nuts.

03:39:40.000 Deontay and Francis is probably the only fight that I'd be interested in seeing from either one of those guys right now.

03:39:46.000 I'll agree a hundred percent.

03:39:47.000 Deontay Francis would be.

03:39:49.000 I mean, maybe there's another fight for Francis and heavyweight boxing.

03:39:52.000 But the real fight for Francis is obviously the UFC title.

03:39:55.000 When did when was last time Deontay fought?

03:39:57.000 It's been a while.

03:39:58.000 Yeah.

03:39:58.000 He's on some hard times since he did that at awasco.

03:40:01.000 Did he fight after that Zhang fight?

03:40:04.000 No.

03:40:05.000 He got knocked out by Jang. 0.97

03:40:06.000 He has a high interest.

03:40:09.000 Um was that his last fight?

03:40:12.000 The Zhang fight?

03:40:13.000 Francis and Gano offered lucrative return to boxing by former world champion.

03:40:17.000 Your power against my power.

03:40:19.000 You ever hear how Teddy Atlas talked about Deontay Wilder's power?

03:40:22.000 Because he'll hit you.

03:40:23.000 He'll hit you so hard.

03:40:24.000 He'll hit you in the face and shatter your ankles.

03:40:28.000 He called it the eraser.

03:40:29.000 Oh.

03:40:30.000 Because he was like, Oh, the errors that he made.

03:40:32.000 He erases him with one punch.

03:40:35.000 And his technique's not great.

03:40:36.000 Back foot's off the ground.

03:40:38.000 Yeah.

03:40:38.000 But just fucking whack.

03:40:40.000 It's extraordinary.

03:40:41.000 When he fought that was it, Brazil?

03:40:43.000 I was working for a showtime.

03:40:44.000 They sat me and my brother in New York next to that Brazil's family. 0.99

03:40:47.000 And I didn't know it.

03:40:48.000 And he's walking out.

03:40:49.000 There's only people cheering.

03:40:50.000 And I'm like, oh no, my brother goes well.

03:40:53.000 I'm like, we're next to fucking Brazil.

03:40:54.000 This is a dead man walking.

03:40:56.000 This can be the worst fucking time ever.

03:40:58.000 But it shows you the chin that Tyson Fury has.

03:41:00.000 Because Tyson Fury ate one shot that on the top of the head that went all the way down to his fat.

03:41:05.000 It's fat wiggled.

03:41:07.000 It's a crazy stuff.

03:41:08.000 Just like an earthquake.

03:41:09.000 It went through his body.

03:41:10.000 He's up like the undertaker.

03:41:12.000 Craziest shit I've ever seen.

03:41:13.000 Well, that was the first fight.

03:41:14.000 This was uh this wasn't the second fight where he got dropped, I think three times.

03:41:17.000 Yeah.

03:41:18.000 Still came back and knocked him out.

03:41:19.000 Wild.

03:41:20.000 Wild.

03:41:21.000 His chin is insane.

03:41:22.000 He took that left hook, went down, and everybody's like, well, it's definitely over.

03:41:26.000 He took a right hand and then a left hook, right?

03:41:27.000 Wasn't that what it was?

03:41:28.000 He's my guy.

03:41:29.000 Left hook on the way down.

03:41:30.000 Yes.

03:41:30.000 Flat.

03:41:30.000 Yes.

03:41:31.000 Like he's out cold.

03:41:32.000 Out, out.

03:41:32.000 Rises and then wins the remainder of the round.

03:41:35.000 Wow.

03:41:35.000 And then realized in winning the remainder of the round how to fight him.

03:41:38.000 That's right.

03:41:38.000 Get him back in up.

03:41:39.000 Just push him, push him forward.

03:41:40.000 Yeah, he's got a back.

03:41:41.000 But I think he's done, yeah?

03:41:42.000 Tyson Fury?

03:41:43.000 I think he's done.

03:41:44.000 He said he's retired.

03:41:44.000 He's done.

03:41:45.000 He was thinking about one more Usick fight.

03:41:46.000 He was talking about that.

03:41:48.000 Usick.

03:41:48.000 Because he's the closest that anybody's to solving Usik.

03:41:51.000 The early rounds of that first fight, it looked like he was solving them.

03:41:55.000 Usick is so special.

03:41:56.000 He's special.

03:41:57.000 Oh I watched them break like real boxers break down what he does, like how the traps he says.

03:42:05.000 Cruiserweight, heavyweight, Olympics.

03:42:07.000 That Dubois was crazy.

03:42:09.000 Fought it, fought it started at 88.

03:42:10.000 I mean, he's a natural cruiser weight or something.

03:42:12.000 He's not even a Yeah, he he fought Better Beave in the Olympics.

03:42:15.000 Yeah.

03:42:16.000 Better be just.

03:42:16.000 Or at least an amateur fight.

03:42:18.000 Better be is another one.

03:42:19.000 He's another one.

03:42:19.000 But he's just throws ones and twos and just fucking bow.

03:42:22.000 Oh, dude, three, four years ago, he was the scariest fucking human being alive.

03:42:25.000 Oh my god.

03:42:25.000 But he's 40.

03:42:26.000 Yeah.

03:42:27.000 But he's obviously 40.

03:42:28.000 You know.

03:42:29.000 Different forty.

03:42:30.000 He's not getting uh the golden snitch sniffing around his pee pee. 0.69

03:42:34.000 Golden snitch is nowhere to be found.

03:42:37.000 I don't know what they do if they're because when he's in those fights with Bival, what kind of testing did they do?

03:42:42.000 Because they're talking about a trilogy.

03:42:44.000 Do you think that'd be cool?

03:42:48.000 I don't know, man.

03:42:49.000 It's just you know, this is the thing, Gordon.

03:42:51.000 Like what they're doing with Brazilian jujitsu on this UFC thing where you have to get drug tested.

03:42:56.000 Like are they drug testing everybody?

03:42:58.000 Uh they said they were gonna start uh testing in 2026.

03:43:01.000 What that means, I don't know.

03:43:03.000 But that means that the only They should have a multiple choice test.

03:43:07.000 Yeah.

03:43:08.000 Which means that they're gonna have to sign people exclusive.

03:43:10.000 It's also got a lot of money in the city.

03:43:12.000 Jujitsu has been juicy for so long.

03:43:15.000 Like there's so many guys that are juicy that are in Jiu Jitsu.

03:43:18.000 It's like the last one.

03:43:19.000 This is this is all this is all gonna be caveman talk because they have that two things coming.

03:43:24.000 One is that peptide that you can you can take and you will it literally has no endocrine, it doesn't change your end grid thing.

03:43:32.000 I think it blocks your myostatin.

03:43:34.000 So you're gonna be able to build muscle with almost no sound effects.

03:43:36.000 Crazy.

03:43:37.000 And then the second thing is with this CRISPR Cas 9 shit now, they're if you have like high cholesterol, they can get your liver to stop making the kind of cholesterol.

03:43:46.000 You you become that person that makes very little cholesterol and has low cholesterol naturally.

03:43:50.000 And so that's what they're gonna do.

03:43:51.000 So statins are gonna be a thing of the past as well.

03:43:53.000 Because with Christopher Cas9, you can get one quick gene editing thing, and it's coming down the pipe fast.

03:43:59.000 Not just that, Gary Nolan was on here and he does cancer research.

03:44:01.000 He's out of Stanford.

03:44:02.000 One of the things he was talking about was they're gonna develop a cream that you could rub on your skin that doesn't make you so you're no longer susceptible to sun radiation.

03:44:12.000 The way he's got like that weird genes, a weird gene where he has a lot of melanoma all over his skin.

03:44:17.000 Because he he has an actual expression of a gene that like is m you're much more likely to get it.

03:44:22.000 And he was saying he's got like cuts all over his body where they have to compl always cut these things off from but that's a gene.

03:44:28.000 They can edit that.

03:44:29.000 And they can edit it with a cream.

03:44:30.000 And I said, Is this possible?

03:44:31.000 He's like, Oh, yeah, it's going to happen.

03:44:33.000 I can't wait.

03:44:35.000 Come on.

03:44:36.000 Science.

03:44:36.000 Bro, they're gonna turn old ladies in the hot again.

03:44:39.000 That's gonna get weird.

03:44:40.000 Did you hear the guy, the guy who owns it?

03:44:43.000 Bobas, did you hear the guy who owns the LA Times who has all those cancer patents?

03:44:47.000 He said he they've got this uh where they they boost your helper T cell.

03:44:51.000 Mm-hmm.

03:44:52.000 And Newsweek did an article about this.

03:44:54.000 They are first of all, they're curing bladder cancer.

03:44:57.000 Um Cleoblaston's old is she? 0.99

03:44:59.000 That's Martha Stewart? 1.00

03:45:01.000 Is that a real picture?

03:45:02.000 Is that like a filter filter?

03:45:04.000 Like this week.

03:45:05.000 That's crazy.

03:45:06.000 That's insane.

03:45:07.000 Even with a filter.

03:45:08.000 Money, money, money.

03:45:09.000 But you still gotta work the butt the body still. 0.60

03:45:12.000 The body still sacks.

03:45:13.000 How do you know, Brian?

03:45:14.000 Don't be so negative.

03:45:14.000 Yeah, don't be don't be a hater.

03:45:16.000 How do you know?

03:45:17.000 Maybe she got a banging body under there. 1.00

03:45:18.000 But that 80-year-old skin just feels a little different.

03:45:21.000 Not when you get that super special crisper cream.

03:45:23.000 Maybe right.

03:45:24.000 Chris.

03:45:27.000 We're gonna be 80 and you and I. What if they start focusing on hair, B?

03:45:35.000 Huh?

03:45:35.000 You guys could both have long logs.

03:45:36.000 Oh, though, I would shave my head even if I grow my hair.

03:45:40.000 No, no, no, they got the peptide.

03:45:41.000 No, but I like it.

03:45:42.000 I like shaving my head.

03:45:44.000 But the thing is, like, I don't want to talk to a fucking haircutter. 0.78

03:45:48.000 You ever been kidnapped where they just hold you there?

03:45:50.000 And then I told her, you are not gonna fucking treat me like that. 0.98

03:45:54.000 Good for you.

03:45:55.000 Stay on your ground.

03:45:56.000 And it's like, oh my god.

03:45:58.000 Oh my god.

03:46:00.000 You fucking trapped.

03:46:02.000 You can't go anywhere, you're like slip steps.

03:46:05.000 Well, you should I get it.

03:46:06.000 I see your point.

03:46:07.000 That is the old.

03:46:08.000 She's out of line. 0.83

03:46:09.000 She's definitely out of line. 0.72

03:46:11.000 They got that peptide that that also you rub on your thing that grows revives new hair follicles.

03:46:16.000 I can't wear it.

03:46:17.000 Yeah, they've developed some sort of drug that actually grows like legitimate hair.

03:46:21.000 Like revitalizes your follicles completely.

03:46:24.000 I want to be able to do that.

03:46:24.000 They're turning back, they're taking skin and making skin young again.

03:46:28.000 They're doing weird shit.

03:46:30.000 Really?

03:46:30.000 Yeah.

03:46:31.000 Damn, she's got the yabbo. 1.00

03:46:32.000 Look, this is 82.

03:46:35.000 This one is 83, and then this one is 84.

03:46:37.000 She looks amazing.

03:46:38.000 Is she getting something done every year?

03:46:39.000 Or are they just I hope so?

03:46:41.000 Maybe she's really dedicated to the cause.

03:46:43.000 She's trying to up her craft. 1.00

03:46:44.000 But look at uh Chris Jenner.

03:46:46.000 She's the Gordon Ryan of plastic surgery. 1.00

03:46:47.000 Yeah, man.

03:46:48.000 She's got a lot of money. 1.00

03:46:51.000 No time off.

03:46:52.000 She's got a lot of money. 1.00

03:46:53.000 If I can pay my mortgage on it.

03:46:57.000 Let's go.

03:46:57.000 I got bills.

03:46:58.000 Yeah.

03:46:59.000 The thing is, like, what is your, you know, what is your body pop?

03:47:02.000 Like, what's the hottest body an 80-year-old woman has ever had? 1.00

03:47:06.000 Like, what's a hot dog?

03:47:09.000 Raquel Welch.

03:47:10.000 Raquel Welsh.

03:47:11.000 Bring her up for a sec. 1.00

03:47:11.000 I bet you that's some genes, right? 1.00

03:47:13.000 Some some ladies have those. 1.00

03:47:15.000 How old is someone high lower?

03:47:16.000 Is she like 50 or 6 guys? 0.59

03:47:19.000 Sophia.

03:47:20.000 I've seen the six guy.

03:47:21.000 Yeah, they got.

03:47:22.000 She's like 56.

03:47:24.000 She's insane. 0.98

03:47:24.000 I've seen her. 0.98

03:47:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:47:27.000 Just a freak.

03:47:27.000 And again, 50 is the new thing.

03:47:29.000 Those Latin jeans, though.

03:47:30.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

03:47:31.000 That's a fact.

03:47:31.000 Yeah, you ain't seen no white girls like that.

03:47:33.000 I've seen a white girl. 1.00

03:47:34.000 Scottish lady.

03:47:35.000 I've seen an 80-year-old English woman who looked at no 60-year-old 60.

03:47:38.000 She was beautiful.

03:47:39.000 I've just chanced 62.

03:47:41.000 I've just turned 60.

03:47:44.000 What is the accent with that?

03:47:47.000 I want you to Google what is the hottest 80-year-old lady. 1.00

03:47:49.000 I just did.

03:47:50.000 I just did.

03:47:50.000 I'm trying to get it.

03:47:53.000 Jamie's so good.

03:47:54.000 Your Google search is fuck for life.

03:47:55.000 Oh, there you go.

03:47:56.000 All right.

03:47:56.000 There is that 71-year-old.

03:47:59.000 Frank Zane is the hottest 80-year-old lady.

03:48:01.000 There's that 70-year-old.

03:48:03.000 That is ridiculous.

03:48:04.000 Oh, 80-year-old grandpa crushes it.

03:48:07.000 No, you know who's really, really amazing?

03:48:09.000 Is who's the guy who sings Jesse's girl?

03:48:12.000 Rick Springfield.

03:48:12.000 Dude, check out Rick Springfield at 72.

03:48:14.000 He's like 72 and he has no shirt on on stage.

03:48:16.000 Dude, it's crazy.

03:48:17.000 Whoa.

03:48:18.000 Bring up Rick Springfield.

03:48:20.000 Forget all these guys.

03:48:21.000 Okay, Christy Brinkley.

03:48:22.000 She's 63.

03:48:23.000 She's good.

03:48:24.000 Age is a big thing. 0.51

03:48:26.000 Bring up Christy Brinkley now.

03:48:28.000 Shut the fuck up, Brendan.

03:48:29.000 Why are you ruining everything?

03:48:30.000 Look at her right now. 0.98

03:48:33.000 Pretty fucking good.

03:48:34.000 Who's the angel?

03:48:35.000 How about that?

03:48:36.000 How about that?

03:48:36.000 Who no?

03:48:37.000 Come on, son.

03:48:37.000 Who's the English girl married to Q Grandy?

03:48:41.000 Liz Hurley.

03:48:42.000 Bring her. 0.90

03:48:42.000 She's hot too. 0.90

03:48:43.000 Dude.

03:48:43.000 She's a girlfriend.

03:48:44.000 She keeps together.

03:48:45.000 She's incredible.

03:48:46.000 She's probably 60, maybe my age.

03:48:48.000 Keep it together, ladies. 1.00

03:48:50.000 Keep it together.

03:48:51.000 I know, man.

03:48:51.000 That's disciplinary.

03:48:52.000 They have to lift weights.

03:48:53.000 When you get to a certain point, the only way you're going to keep your shit.

03:48:55.000 She should always lift weights.

03:48:56.000 Yeah.

03:48:56.000 You gotta lift weights.

03:48:57.000 Oh fuck.

03:48:58.000 You should see my boy.

03:48:59.000 Here, I'm gonna show you the best.

03:49:00.000 She's 60?

03:49:02.000 God.

03:49:03.000 Jamie.

03:49:04.000 Send you a video.

03:49:06.000 She's 60. 0.68

03:49:07.000 Did you ever see the photo of her sitting next to Bill Clinton?

03:49:11.000 Yes.

03:49:11.000 And you're like, oh yeah.

03:49:13.000 Oh, that's a good idea.

03:49:14.000 I'll show you the best.

03:49:15.000 Because he was a fan of hers.

03:49:16.000 Oh yeah.

03:49:17.000 I'm going to show you the best spot at 74 years old.

03:49:19.000 He was a fan of yours.

03:49:22.000 I've always admired.

03:49:24.000 What the fuck is he wearing?

03:49:26.000 Bro, well, he's wearing the I'm about to fuck Elizabeth Hurley collection.

03:49:30.000 You're damn right he is.

03:49:34.000 I've always been a fan of the way you present yourself on camera.

03:49:39.000 That's like he's crushing it.

03:49:43.000 Yeah, what is that outfit?

03:49:44.000 They had a bullfight.

03:49:46.000 Is he a bullfighter?

03:49:46.000 I don't know what the fuck you do.

03:49:48.000 Imagine you're a president former or other, and they ask you to wear that.

03:49:51.000 You're like, no, I'm good.

03:49:52.000 I think I'll wear a regular suit so I don't wind up.

03:49:54.000 Can I just wear the regular shit?

03:49:56.000 Did you see the uh the picture or the video of uh Cuomo giving a speech with the I think it was Muslims and one of the dudes he brought just had a do rag on?

03:50:07.000 Just gave her all trying to fit in, and he just was wearing a fucking blue do rag. 0.75

03:50:11.000 Oh my god.

03:50:11.000 I'll show you the best body of 74.

03:50:13.000 There's nobody like this.

03:50:14.000 Nobody liked this whole thing.

03:50:15.000 Oh my god, that's so funny.

03:50:16.000 You gotta find Rich French.

03:50:18.000 Yeah, no, no, no.

03:50:19.000 This is Shane Shane Steiner's father.

03:50:22.000 Shane Steiner's father is the most.

03:50:24.000 Who's Shane Steiner?

03:50:25.000 Shane's my buddy who owns the helicopter.

03:50:27.000 Oh, he's rich as dad.

03:50:29.000 You gotta see his dad.

03:50:29.000 It's I've never seen any shape.

03:50:31.000 I've never seen anything like it.

03:50:32.000 I'm gonna send you a video.

03:50:33.000 How many times did you jump off to it?

03:50:34.000 Uh well, I'm not gonna talk about that.

03:50:36.000 So you wait too long.

03:50:37.000 That's a personal question.

03:50:39.000 Well, uh, Jamie, how do I get this to you?

03:50:43.000 Listen, Grandpa.

03:50:44.000 Don't you know about airdrop?

03:50:46.000 Grandpa.

03:50:46.000 Oh, here it is.

03:50:47.000 This is so stupid.

03:50:48.000 Just walk over there and have him take a picture of your phone like he did last time.

03:50:51.000 Yeah.

03:50:52.000 Grandpa.

03:50:53.000 Send it to Jamie, Grandpa.

03:50:55.000 I'm saying it.

03:50:56.000 Jamie, it's your airdrop on.

03:50:57.000 Yeah.

03:50:59.000 Holy shit.

03:51:01.000 Gordon Ryan stays outside the airdrop ecosphere.

03:51:04.000 James Pro?

03:51:05.000 Didn't you?

03:51:05.000 He's one of the the rare birds.

03:51:07.000 Got a phone isn't that, dude.

03:51:08.000 What is Android?

03:51:09.000 Z fold.

03:51:09.000 No, it's my.

03:51:10.000 Don't you have an Android now?

03:51:11.000 Um, I'm still I still haven't switched over yet.

03:51:14.000 Yeah, did you get it?

03:51:14.000 I guess you have both.

03:51:16.000 Yeah, I do have both, but I haven't been using the other one.

03:51:18.000 I'm gonna use it as my primary phone once I I have to switch a bunch of shit.

03:51:22.000 He was a pro a world champion bull rider.

03:51:24.000 He's 74 years old.

03:51:26.000 He was a bull rider?

03:51:27.000 Yeah, world champion.

03:51:28.000 How's he not completely broken?

03:51:29.000 And he owns like a moss.

03:51:31.000 Because he's a because he's built like that, and he never stops working out.

03:51:36.000 It's ridiculous.

03:51:38.000 74?

03:51:38.000 Fuck you.

03:51:39.000 Jesus.

03:51:40.000 That's ridiculous.

03:51:44.000 That guy looks incredible.

03:51:45.000 He's unbelievable.

03:51:46.000 I've never seen I kept looking at him last night.

03:51:48.000 I was like, I can't get over this shit.

03:51:50.000 That's a that's a display.

03:51:51.000 His shoulders are this wide.

03:51:52.000 Oh, yeah.

03:51:52.000 That's a discipline.

03:51:53.000 Iron discipline.

03:51:54.000 Yeah.

03:51:54.000 And it's the whole family.

03:51:55.000 What do you do for a living?

03:51:56.000 He's a billionaire.

03:51:57.000 Counts, buddy.

03:51:58.000 He's a billionaire.

03:51:59.000 Which is weird, right?

03:51:59.000 Steiner Ranchy.

03:52:00.000 The Stein ice cream.

03:52:01.000 The Steiners own the largest uh cattle. 0.99

03:52:03.000 Yeah, yeah.

03:52:03.000 Yeah.

03:52:04.000 But they're all beautiful people.

03:52:05.000 And the whole family, they're all cowboys.

03:52:07.000 Like, you ever go to that Steiner Ranch steakhouse?

03:52:09.000 Yeah, I was there last night.

03:52:10.000 I was there last night.

03:52:11.000 Yeah.

03:52:11.000 Last night.

03:52:12.000 And and uh they're the nephew, Rocker, is the world champion bucking Bronco rider.

03:52:18.000 The the his brother Sid is like the world champion fucking cameo in Yellowstone.

03:52:23.000 Yeah, that's right.

03:52:24.000 Oh, really?

03:52:24.000 That's right.

03:52:24.000 Oh, what a crazy thing to get good at.

03:52:26.000 The whole family's built like this.

03:52:27.000 Riding horses.

03:52:28.000 Yeah.

03:52:29.000 Bucking Broncos.

03:52:30.000 And bulls.

03:52:30.000 Bulls.

03:52:31.000 Bull riders and buckets.

03:52:32.000 They're all wild boys because then the son, Shane, only gets around by a helicopter.

03:52:35.000 That's right.

03:52:36.000 Shane only Shane doesn't drive.

03:52:38.000 Yeah, you used to train at Roka with us.

03:52:40.000 And you used to hear the helicopter coming.

03:52:43.000 Shane's here.

03:52:44.000 He just lands in the detention pond.

03:52:46.000 I was at the end.

03:52:46.000 He picks me up every day to go work out, and my neighbor's like, what the fuck?

03:52:49.000 He'll be, I'll be there at nine exactly.

03:52:51.000 I gotta run to the club.

03:52:52.000 A friend of mine is daughter takes was taking this gymnastics class, and one of the kids would get dropped off by helicopters.

03:52:57.000 That's him, dude.

03:52:58.000 His daughter uh does gymnastics.

03:52:59.000 That's hilarious.

03:53:01.000 I'm like, what a flex.

03:53:02.000 He's the best guy.

03:53:03.000 I think there's a bunch of guys that do that, though.

03:53:05.000 I don't think it's just one.

03:53:06.000 I think Austin has a weird.

03:53:09.000 As long as as long as you don't as I think it's like a the rules are like as long as you don't obviously like go against any FAA rules.

03:53:15.000 Don't take out any power lines.

03:53:16.000 And you have you have like the landlord or like just permission from the person.

03:53:19.000 Like he just landed short.

03:53:22.000 Didn't Tim have a helicopter for a while?

03:53:24.000 No, Tim that was Shane's Tim and Shane are best friends.

03:53:28.000 That was Shane's helicopter.

03:53:28.000 Tim Tim will get out on the ski when he's shooting hogs.

03:53:31.000 Tim will stand on the skis and shooting Tim, and Shane's like, please wear your seatbelt.

03:53:36.000 And he's like, shut up.

03:53:37.000 I've done this.

03:53:39.000 He's so out of his mind.

03:53:40.000 They try to get on skis and come down low enough to jump off the skis onto a wild pig's back with a hatchet, and they tried that and it didn't work because they missed the pig.

03:53:51.000 And apparently Tim kind of fell face first into the fucking dirt.

03:53:54.000 Jesus Christ.

03:53:55.000 I'm gonna kill a pig from your helicopter. 1.00

03:53:58.000 They're like, you want to try that?

03:53:59.000 I go, I'm not gonna fucking do that.

03:54:00.000 But imagine if you had a GoPro on your head and it worked.

03:54:02.000 I know.

03:54:03.000 It's fucking cool as a big thing.

03:54:04.000 I don't involve with that shooting pigs out of helicopters thing.

03:54:07.000 I've seen the videos, it's pretty wild.

03:54:09.000 Yeah.

03:54:09.000 It's fun to watch.

03:54:10.000 You don't want to do it.

03:54:11.000 I it just doesn't seem like the right thing to do.

03:54:13.000 Well, it's pesky.

03:54:14.000 First of all, the pistol.

03:54:15.000 I get it, it's pesky.

03:54:16.000 And I would do it.

03:54:17.000 I would do it.

03:54:18.000 But I can't, I just can't.

03:54:20.000 If I had to do it, like if I had a ranch.

03:54:21.000 It's actually hard to do too.

03:54:23.000 Because you gotta you gotta shoot.

03:54:24.000 I think um it's the way you do it is a specific way.

03:54:27.000 It's like not easy to do it.

03:54:28.000 I thought about it because Ted Nugent invited me to it, and I was like, is that's not the craziest fucking thing you could do in your life is go pig hunting out of a hell of a few.

03:54:35.000 Well, farmers will pay to do it, so that'd be cool.

03:54:37.000 Farmers will pay because they decimate your corn and stuff. 0.96

03:54:39.000 Remember the first time we talked about it?

03:54:41.000 Yeah.

03:54:41.000 You're like, you're like pigs cause 700 trillion dollars a year in damage to the crops.

03:54:46.000 You're like, look it up, Jamie.

03:54:48.000 And then it was like, it's only three million a year.

03:54:49.000 I mean, you're both like, well, maybe we shouldn't be fucking killing all these pigs.

03:54:54.000 It's not just three million, it's it's more than that.

03:54:56.000 It's like a million a year.

03:54:58.000 I was reading some articles that sounded like I was reading some articles.

03:55:01.000 It sounded like clickbaity bullshit, but it was about these 500 pound super hogs that are coming out of Canada. 1.00

03:55:07.000 Yeah.

03:55:08.000 This is like the latest thing we're supposed to be scared of.

03:55:10.000 Like giant super hogs out of Canada that means they're America. 1.00

03:55:14.000 Yeah, well, Canada.

03:55:15.000 But like, how are they so big?

03:55:16.000 Like, what do you talk?

03:55:17.000 Why are they so big?

03:55:18.000 Why do you have 600 pound pigs? 0.59

03:55:20.000 They get that big.

03:55:21.000 What's like that picture I think of that deer that got eaten fucking stomach first in front of my house?

03:55:25.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

03:55:26.000 Like, what the fuck did that a mountain line?

03:55:27.000 It's probably Bobcat.

03:55:29.000 Could be a coyotes, could be a lot of things.

03:55:31.000 They do have mountain lions in Austin, actually.

03:55:33.000 They do.

03:55:34.000 Yeah, they do.

03:55:35.000 We got some kind of a cat on our camera, and it's tough to tell perspective.

03:55:41.000 But it someone thought maybe because it was really black and it was night vision, it was before we upgraded the cameras.

03:55:46.000 It would look like it might have been a German Shepherd, but it was weird.

03:55:50.000 It moved like a cat.

03:55:52.000 But you know how German shepherds have that weird thing where they kind of like lower in the butt.

03:55:55.000 Yeah.

03:55:56.000 They move a little more cat like.

03:55:57.000 Yeah.

03:55:58.000 Which is like one of the things that I think why they can go so fast.

03:56:01.000 Like Belgian Malamore.

03:56:03.000 How about that Dutch Shepherd that thing you sent me, right?

03:56:05.000 Insane.

03:56:06.000 But this thing was in front of my house.

03:56:07.000 I asked.

03:56:08.000 And we got an alarm.

03:56:10.000 Well, they were like, there's a large predator.

03:56:12.000 Like, bring the dog inside.

03:56:13.000 And then I went and watched the video of it.

03:56:15.000 I was like, what the fuck is that?

03:56:17.000 Like, what is that?

03:56:18.000 Yeah, I asked animal control.

03:56:19.000 I'm like, what the fuck would do this?

03:56:21.000 They're like, usually if it's like uh wolves or coyotes, coyotes, there would be blood everywhere.

03:56:27.000 Like they eat them and then it bleeds out, and but it was everything was clean.

03:56:30.000 So it was probably one animal did all the work.

03:56:32.000 Yep.

03:56:33.000 No guts, no blood.

03:56:35.000 Well, whatever the fuck this thing was, it was in the shadows, it was hard to pick up, but it looked like a cat.

03:56:40.000 It looked like a pretty big cat.

03:56:41.000 How about the cats?

03:56:42.000 You see how big those those mountain lions are on Idaho and in Colorado?

03:56:46.000 They're not like you're a hundred-pound mountain lions.

03:56:48.000 They're 200 pound cats.

03:56:49.000 You ever seen the one Derek Wolf killed?

03:56:51.000 It's the biggest thing I've ever seen.

03:56:53.000 Massive.

03:56:54.000 That one in LA.

03:56:55.000 You know how big he is?

03:56:56.000 And they see him holding that wolf up.

03:56:58.000 I mean, holding that mountain lion up.

03:57:00.000 It's crazy.

03:57:00.000 That one in LA in Woodland Hills was they said it was plus 200.

03:57:03.000 That big dude just on the fucking cameras.

03:57:06.000 Yeah.

03:57:07.000 Well, they take down elk.

03:57:08.000 200?

03:57:08.000 They take down elk with their face.

03:57:10.000 And they eat dogs like crazy.

03:57:12.000 When they find them in California, when you know they have to do those depredation things, they have a problem mountain lion.

03:57:18.000 They found that 50% of their diet is pets.

03:57:20.000 What?

03:57:21.000 Really?

03:57:21.000 It's in San Francisco.

03:57:23.000 Oh, Northern California, Bay Area.

03:57:25.000 Well, leopards in India do that a lot.

03:57:27.000 They just snatch your dogs, man.

03:57:29.000 Everything.

03:57:30.000 But there's kids missing and shit.

03:57:31.000 Yes.

03:57:32.000 Leopards are the old days of the Hollywood Hills, there's stories about kids missing.

03:57:36.000 They never figured out what happened.

03:57:38.000 That's probably a mountain lion. 0.99

03:57:39.000 There's a lot of them up in that whole park area up there.

03:57:42.000 In in Colorado, there's a family hiking and the six-year-old.

03:57:48.000 And a mountain lion came out of the bushes, grabbed that six-year-old and disappeared.

03:57:51.000 Oh my god.

03:57:52.000 I don't know where.

03:57:53.000 Can you imagine?

03:57:53.000 Oh my god.

03:57:54.000 No, I cannot imagine.

03:57:55.000 Have you seen the one that we have on the studio wall?

03:57:57.000 The one that's a photo with the cat with a Hollywood sign behind it.

03:58:00.000 Yeah.

03:58:01.000 He's wearing a collar.

03:58:02.000 Yep.

03:58:02.000 It's LA to me.

03:58:03.000 That's right.

03:58:04.000 That photo is LA to me because it's completely retarded. 1.00

03:58:07.000 Yeah.

03:58:07.000 Like everything about it is retarded.

03:58:09.000 They built in, they build them a runway.

03:58:10.000 Oh, yeah.

03:58:12.000 This one is dead, but they're building other ones of runway.

03:58:15.000 They're spending millions of dollars so they can cross the highway safety and kill dogs. 0.89

03:58:18.000 So that this fucking this thing has a collar on its neck, too. 0.86

03:58:22.000 So it's this huge mountain.

03:58:23.000 Like, Jimmy, pull that picture up.

03:58:25.000 If you can find it, please.

03:58:26.000 It's a huge mountain lion with a collar on his neck with the Hollywood sign perfectly Illuminated in the background.

03:58:31.000 It looks fake.

03:58:32.000 Yeah, I know.

03:58:33.000 But it's like this is how goofy that town is.

03:58:35.000 You have giant predators.

03:58:36.000 And instead of like killing them, when you find them, what you do is you collar them and release them so you know where they're killing everything.

03:58:43.000 That's the uh photo that we have on the wall back there.

03:58:45.000 Look at that size.

03:58:45.000 Look at his front paws and stuff.

03:58:47.000 Who took that photo?

03:58:48.000 It's like a famous photographer, right?

03:58:50.000 Give that guy his flowers. 1.00

03:58:51.000 They can jump a school bus.

03:58:53.000 They can lengthen that.

03:58:54.000 They can't.

03:58:56.000 Steve Winter.

03:58:57.000 Look at that.

03:58:58.000 Look how crazy that photo is, man.

03:59:00.000 That's a great picture.

03:59:00.000 I stare at that picture all the time, but that that represents LA to me.

03:59:05.000 Now actually 300 pounds stat, and you get a tiger.

03:59:11.000 I was in Abu Dhabi and they had they had like baby vliggers. 1.00

03:59:15.000 Oh god.

03:59:16.000 Like just at the size where you're like, okay, like if they bite you, they could start doing some damage.

03:59:20.000 Probably like you know, this big.

03:59:21.000 Like it was clearly still a baby, but it was like this big, probably like I don't know, 60 pounds.

03:59:26.000 And they're like trying to get everyone to pick them up, and uh like they go hold them.

03:59:33.000 Like if they know that you're scared, like they can sense that you're scared, they won't let you touch them.

03:59:37.000 So I'm like, give me this fucking thing.

03:59:38.000 So I picked this thing up.

03:59:40.000 And the fucking it feels like you're like trying to move around like steel cables.

03:59:45.000 Like their legs and their fucking paws. 1.00

03:59:47.000 It's like they feel like concrete.

03:59:48.000 Yeah.

03:59:49.000 Like they're so dense.

03:59:50.000 Yeah.

03:59:50.000 You ever grab a chimp, a baby chimp?

03:59:52.000 No.

03:59:52.000 They made a wood.

03:59:53.000 They feel like they're wood.

03:59:54.000 Their backs feel like they're they're literally wood.

03:59:57.000 Yeah, I've talked about this one we had on news radio.

04:00:00.000 It was like a scene in news radio that wound up getting cut, but I had to do a thing with a baby chimp, and this thing climbed on my with a diaper on, climbed on my back and whacked me in the back. 1.00

04:00:08.000 Just what just playing.

04:00:10.000 Just having a good time.

04:00:10.000 Whacking me in the back.

04:00:11.000 And I was so stunned by how strong it hit me.

04:00:13.000 I was like, that is crazy.

04:00:15.000 Look at this.

04:00:16.000 It felt like it was made out of wire.

04:00:18.000 Like corded like steel wire.

04:00:20.000 That's right.

04:00:21.000 Just a different kind of muscle.

04:00:22.000 Yeah, but imagine that in a cat that's like on your neck.

04:00:26.000 You're fine.

04:00:26.000 And you know there's this.

04:00:27.000 Slit you relax. 0.98

04:00:30.000 Bites through your scalp.

04:00:31.000 Look at this video.

04:00:33.000 Oh, I've seen that with the monkey tears the guy's head off or tears the guy's scalp apart.

04:00:37.000 Fucking goes the right.

04:00:38.000 I hate looking at that.

04:00:39.000 Yeah, don't show them.

04:00:41.000 Oh it made me put it up on the screen for everybody.

04:00:44.000 Oh, I saw this.

04:00:45.000 This is insane.

04:00:47.000 He goes to the LA and he just like pulls like half of his fucking scalp off.

04:00:50.000 Just for no reason.

04:00:51.000 Just feels like it.

04:00:52.000 Yeah, it's a bad situation.

04:00:53.000 He just felt like it.

04:00:54.000 Fuck you.

04:00:55.000 Flack it.

04:00:55.000 Yeah.

04:00:55.000 Guy didn't do anything wrong.

04:00:56.000 He's trying to be peaceful.

04:00:58.000 I am at peace.

04:00:59.000 I am at peace with this monkey.

04:01:01.000 Me and a monkey are good friends.

04:01:03.000 They don't make good pets.

04:01:04.000 Baboons will challenge you. 1.00

04:01:05.000 Especially the males.

04:01:06.000 Yeah.

04:01:07.000 And they have large teeth.

04:01:09.000 Yeah.

04:01:10.000 Animals.

04:01:11.000 Alright.

04:01:11.000 So this gone full circle.

04:01:13.000 Yep.

04:01:14.000 Um vaccinate your pets.

04:01:16.000 Yep.

04:01:16.000 I'm going to be at the Covina Laugh Factory this weekend.

04:01:19.000 Come see me.

04:01:20.000 Friday's away.

04:01:22.000 That's right.

04:01:22.000 I'll be wearing a lap coat.

04:01:23.000 If you want to learn about vaccines, come to my show at the Rubina Laugh Factory.

04:01:26.000 I'm releasing my special that I shot at the mothership.

04:01:29.000 Yeah.

04:01:29.000 One month from today.

04:01:31.000 Nice.

04:01:32.000 YouTube?

04:01:33.000 Yeah, YouTube.

04:01:33.000 I've been sitting on it.

04:01:34.000 I was shopping around, but I've been sitting on it.

04:01:36.000 YouTube's the best anyway because it's access.

04:01:38.000 Access is everything.

04:01:39.000 Yes.

04:01:39.000 And uh I saw your side the other night.

04:01:41.000 It was very funny.

04:01:42.000 Thank you, buddy.

04:01:43.000 Very funny.

04:01:44.000 I don't want to say the material you were talking about, but we'll talk later.

04:01:47.000 And finally kids just dropped the Patreon.

04:01:48.000 Oh, yeah.

04:01:49.000 Patreon.

04:01:50.000 Patreon.com slash T F-A-T-K.

04:01:52.000 That's right.

04:01:53.000 And you do the show totally nude on Patreon, right?

04:01:55.000 Yes, we can get big nuts out finally.

04:01:57.000 That's right.

04:01:57.000 We don't get suppressed on that.

04:01:59.000 Is Patreon surprise you like that, or would you have to go to OnlyFans if you want to show your nuts?

04:02:03.000 We were talking about me doing a Patreon where I show my nuts.

04:02:06.000 How about if it's just like red hot chili pepper style?

04:02:09.000 Yeah, but if I just put my nuts in different situations and we took we did video and pictures of just my nuts, I wonder if I make any money.

04:02:16.000 That's you're gonna make less money.

04:02:17.000 No one wants to see it.

04:02:18.000 I'd make his nuts, though.

04:02:19.000 They're good.

04:02:20.000 They're big.

04:02:21.000 I got big nuts.

04:02:22.000 Well yeah, he's got 765 testosterone.

04:02:24.000 He's a thousand years old.

04:02:27.000 Um Gordon, um, your new Academy, Kingsway.

04:02:30.000 Where's it at?

04:02:31.000 Uh it's uh North Austin.

04:02:32.000 I'm not a cloud chaser chaser like these guys, so I'm not gonna talk about it. 0.98

04:02:36.000 Well, we just up in this school Kingsway.

04:02:38.000 It's up in uh North Austin off 183.

04:02:40.000 Um Kings is it Kingsway.com.

04:02:42.000 King's way Jiu Jitsu.

04:02:43.000 Yeah.

04:02:43.000 Kingsway jujitsu.com.

04:02:45.000 All right.

04:02:45.000 Yeah, that's it.

04:02:46.000 Goodbye, everybody.

04:02:46.000 Love you guys.

04:02:47.000 Love you guys.

04:02:48.000 Bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - September 06, 2025

JRE Fight Companion - September 6, 2025

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