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00:01:09.000When I'm up in the mountains sometimes camping or whatever, I feel like some shooting stars and some stars fall, which actually now that I'm saying it might be a little bit crazy.
00:03:52.000Included as a committee comment on the Intelligence Authorization Act, the committee directs the Director of the National Intelligence in consultation with the Secretary of Defense to Why can't they just say UFOs?
00:05:00.000There's a lot of steps that I think had to take place, but I think the first thing is I had to realize that you can't just walk into a cage and be flat as fuck and expect to compete with the best guys in the world.
00:07:16.000You know, however they were feeling about COVID. And so I think maybe that had something to do with it, too.
00:07:23.000But regardless, you know, he earned that win.
00:07:26.000And when I went into that fight, it wasn't a matter of...
00:07:30.000Because you hear guys say all the time, or at least I try to listen to as many interviews as I can and just kind of watch the demeanors of people when they walk into the cage.
00:07:41.000You just see that people are competing at different intensity levels all the time.
00:07:45.000Some people go in and they're like this, you know, and they're ready to go and then other people walk in like they just woke up from a nap.
00:07:51.000And so I try to learn by just watching and on that night I felt really relaxed and I felt really comfortable and really present.
00:08:07.000And I realize that that's not where I need to be in order for me to be able to compete at my highest level.
00:08:11.000Did it have anything to do with the fact there was no crowd?
00:08:15.000Was that unusual for you to compete in front of no crowd?
00:10:09.000It's kind of an interesting spot in the sport, too, right now.
00:10:11.000We're kind of playing, you know, and this is just the way that things are.
00:10:15.000I'm not trying to complain about it, but it seems like it's a lot of, you know, the fame game a little bit.
00:10:20.000Like, if you fight someone really popular and you beat that person, that ranks higher than beating someone who's ranked higher or someone who's, you know...
00:10:30.000And that's the game that we're in, and that's completely fine, and I know that I'm not one of those famous people.
00:11:05.000Where I was in that fight, I actually learned a lot from Sterling.
00:11:09.000I learned that when someone walks into the cage and they have that level of intensity, it can be...
00:11:18.000Intimidating, you know, if you're not at that point.
00:11:23.000And I kind of, you know, afterwards I was asking one of my military buddies because how much realer can it get than like actually, you know, having to kill someone, you know?
00:11:31.000And I remember asking my military buddy and I was like, man, how do you guys deal with that level of intensity?
00:11:38.000When you're standing on the other side of that door and you're about to kick in that door, you need to understand that it's either you or it's them when you kick that door down.
00:11:48.000And now when I walk into the cage, it's right when I walk in, right from the bell, it's like it's either me or it's that person when I kick down that door.
00:11:58.000Do you think there is a level of intensity that's sustainable in a three-round fight versus a level of intensity that's sustainable in a five-round fight?
00:12:08.000Or do you think it's just a matter of preparation?
00:15:29.000I don't think he throws a ton in his fights.
00:15:31.000There's one guy who just keeps flattening people with spinning back kicks in the body.
00:15:35.000It's like getting hit by a car if someone's got a good one.
00:15:39.000I mean, I have a frame where I'm not going to knock anyone out bad with my upper body and stuff, but man, your legs are like big-ass parts of your body.
00:15:50.000You don't need to throw them very hard in order for it to really, really score.
00:16:14.000You know, there's so few kicks that have that kind of power.
00:16:17.000Yeah, and if you can't get your feet out of the way of that, and you just want to use your elbow, you're definitely way big time opening up your head for a wheel kick, too.
00:16:25.000So do you have a guy that, you said Christian Allen?
00:16:52.000So, I think it's probably a compilation of everything.
00:16:55.000One, I think Christian has a very creative mind.
00:16:59.000And it's not super, you know, like we don't hang on to any one type of traditional martial arts over the other or whatever.
00:17:06.000We just, you know, try to take as much good as we can from each one.
00:17:09.000But I know in my experience, I used to love watching old school K1 fights.
00:17:13.000Those were like my all-time favorite fights to watch.
00:17:15.000So, I think when it started, it was kind of a hybrid of me watching a lot of the WEC, specifically like Dominic Cruz.
00:17:23.000I thought his style was dope, you know, like all of the footwork and stuff.
00:17:27.000Watching that, watching Christian and having Christian teach me, and then watching like a lot of really solid K1 guys, like Andy Sauer was one of my favorite fighters.
00:17:35.000I gotta go train with him a couple times in Holland.
00:18:06.000It's something that's controllable that I think, or at least in my experience of my past, it's something that's told to you that isn't controllable.
00:18:28.000So every time I go into sparring now, before I leave the house, for about 20 minutes, I'll sit and visualize all of the techniques that I'm trying to work.
00:18:38.000And I'll see it from a third person's point of view.
00:18:41.000So that's how they say that you're supposed to learn techniques the best, is you visualize yourself doing them and not a first person view.
00:18:55.000But you're supposed to use the first-person view when you're actually trying to generate the emotions that you'll be feeling before a fight, which makes sense.
00:19:05.000But third-person view if you want to learn something or visualize being successful at it.
00:19:10.000That's strange because I would think you would want to see it the way you're going to do it.
00:19:43.000And I would say that that's kind of what it was for me in the beginning, which was super helpful because then I could start really enjoying it.
00:19:50.000And then now, in the last year or so, we've been really hammering down on some like, hey, what's going to make me a better performer instead of what's going to bring me into the fight with a lot less fear and anxiety and stuff like that.
00:20:04.000So yeah, I've been doing that for a while now.
00:20:28.000So did you come to him and say hey when I had this Aljamain Sterling fight I went in I felt kind of flat.
00:20:35.000He was kind of pumped up and I was like, oh Yeah.
00:20:41.000And, yeah, so he's, everyone's different, right?
00:20:45.000Like, I was watching, I think maybe it was on here, or an interview with Dustin Poirier, and he was saying that before he went and fought McGregor, he felt that way, where he was feeling really flat, and this and that, and I remember him saying that his striking coach, who had a bunch of kickboxing fights, was telling him, like, hey man, like, that's normal, like, As I was listening to that, I was like, that works for Dustin, and that's good, but that doesn't work for me.
00:21:14.000I can't go in that flat and still do a good job.
00:21:18.000That's a really important point, right?
00:21:19.000It's like every fighter has to figure out what process works best for them, and it's going to be different for a wrestler versus a striker, a tall guy versus a short guy, a guy who's fast versus a guy who's got a lot of cardio.
00:21:30.000It's really going to depend entirely on your style and who you are as a human.
00:21:35.000Yeah, it changes a lot, and I think that that's why experience is a huge thing that people overlook a lot.
00:21:44.000I overlooked it definitely before I fought Sterling.
00:21:47.000Sterling's gone through a lot of those processes.
00:22:31.000Well, he's, you know, he's very respected in jujitsu, you know, in terms of like the guys who train with him, guys who know how good he is, guys, you know, high level black belts.
00:22:41.000Yeah, I don't think Jan's at the level of grappling that Sterling's at, but also I don't know how big Jan is either.
00:23:00.000That guy is always moving forward and he puts a lot of pressure on you.
00:23:04.000Aljamain has this crazy style, you know, if the fight turns into a striking contest where he's utilizing a lot of movement, a lot of movement.
00:23:13.000That's something he and I talked about on the podcast, like he needs a lot of cardio to fight that way.
00:23:18.000And what's interesting about Piotr is that he is really good at picking his moments and pacing himself and then slowly but surely accelerating the pressure.
00:24:46.000Which also is really interesting to me too because I have seen that in Sterling's fights too where he's gotten tired in three round fights.
00:24:53.000And just to think that he's going to wrestle a guy for 25 minutes, wrestling is the hardest part.
00:27:18.000Do you feel like, because, I mean, you get to watch these shows live, are you reading the guy's demeanors when they're walking out and when they're walking into the cage and are you really trying to read them and be like, are they ready, are they not ready?
00:27:36.000You do see some extra nerves with people.
00:27:40.000I felt like there's a heightened amount of nerves for Gilbert Burns.
00:27:46.000I felt like, you know, because it's just this big moment.
00:27:49.000And, you know, obviously performed really good out of the gate, but seemed to slow down early in the first round and then was pretty tired in the second round.
00:28:08.000You've been thinking about it for years and years and years and all those days of training.
00:28:11.000Every time you're tired and you're doing rounds in the bag or you're hitting the mitts, you're like, one day I'm going to be the fucking champion and all this is going to be worth it.
00:29:30.000I mean, he had a rough goal at the top too though, right?
00:29:32.000Like Usman was, I mean, from my knowledge, I don't know too well, but to my knowledge, he was like begging for that shot for a long time.
00:29:41.000He was fighting the top guys, top guys over and over and over again.
00:29:45.000And actually, you know, Usman's been training with us a little bit too.
00:29:49.000And while I'm not super close with him, I'm super close to one of his main training partners, Carrington Banks.
00:29:54.000And Carrington was telling me that he watched Usman go through the same thing that I feel like I was going through for a little bit too, where it's like, man, you just got to keep winning.
00:31:18.000So an example of that would be, I have terrible posture usually.
00:31:21.000Like it's getting a little bit better, but like before it was like this, like hunched over, I had neck issues, shoulders issues, back issues and all of that.
00:32:09.000And he's like, when you're grappling, you need to know when you need to be like this and when you need to be foldy and bendy and I'm longer and when to tangle people up and when not to tangle people up.
00:34:07.000I think that one thing that separates jiu-jitsu and all the combat sports versus like football and maybe not football, but basketball, tennis, you know, all of those other ones is no one walks into a basketball game and is like, I might get knocked out tonight.
00:34:19.000No one walks in with that extra anxiety.
00:34:23.000While jiu-jitsu, you might not get knocked out, it's also like, this guy might rip my knee off.
00:34:28.000Or this guy might choke me out unconscious in front of a bunch of people.
00:34:32.000That's another really interesting part about combat sports, I think, too.
00:34:36.000It's that extra level, and I think that's what makes it so different.
00:36:05.000If you put on a warm-up thing, if you put on one of them plastic track suits or one of them sweat suits, those sauna suits, like a rubber suit, you could get super slippery.
00:36:18.000If you do that right before you go into the octagon, you can get real fucking slippery.
00:37:15.000I don't know if Vander Lee Silva did it, but I know people accused him of doing it.
00:37:19.000Vander Lee Silva, I think, put Vic's vapor rub all over his chest, too, and so he would grab guys and pull them in, and they'd get fucking Vic's vapor rub in their eyes and shit mixed with the sweat.
00:37:32.000You ever rolled with anyone that has rubbed their bodies down with tile oil?
00:38:36.000That's actually a thing, you know, like, I'll make sure that I'm using chapstick and stuff for the couple of weeks leading into a fight and make sure that I'm, like, moisturizing my face and stuff leading up to a fight because, I mean, I get real dry skin just because I'm so pasty.
00:38:50.000You know, I go out into the sun for five minutes and everything's cracking.
00:39:12.000It was a big controversy back in the day, where one of Anderson Silva's fights, they vaselined up his face, and then he takes his face, rubs his fingers, and he starts doing this.
00:39:22.000He put the vaseline on his body, and everybody's like, what the fuck?
00:43:26.000Because young fighters who are just starting to enter into their prime, they're constantly trying to add new things to their game.
00:43:37.000They're working with different people.
00:43:38.000They're constantly trying to improve because they don't feel like they're there yet.
00:43:42.000And then some guys that have been there before, they've fought for the title, they've fought top contenders, and then you see this kind of pattern emerges, where they basically do the same thing, they fight the same way, and they're kind of protecting themselves from certain injuries that they have that might be chronic, and they don't grow and learn.
00:43:59.000And you always wonder, is that because of the injuries and the age, or is that just because of the attitude as well?
00:44:53.000I try to remind myself just all the time, like, it's only going to get harder, you know?
00:45:00.000Like, it's only going to get harder, and you got to be okay with that.
00:45:03.000Well, it's interesting if you look historically at the evolution of MMA, the difference between MMA in 1993 and MMA today in 2021 is almost unrecognizable.
00:45:17.000I mean, there's a lot of the same techniques are applied, but the level is so fucking high now.
00:45:23.000Sometimes you see guys making their debut, and I'll just be like, this is crazy!
00:46:49.000She's not obsessed the way my other daughter is.
00:46:53.000My other daughter's obsessed with technique and she does gymnastics and she can do all kinds of crazy shit and backflips and roundoffs and handsprings.
00:47:12.000I think some of it is genetic, for sure.
00:47:15.000If you get super athletes and they have kids, you take two super athletes and they breed and they make a super athlete baby, that's logical.
00:47:23.000But sometimes you have kids that their parents are normal and they come out and they're just freaks.
00:47:54.000It's funny people that have never done anything like athletics.
00:47:58.000It's funny watching them as adults try to do stuff.
00:48:01.000I remember there's been a few guys coming to jiu-jitsu that had really never done anything.
00:48:07.000They just decided, I'm going to just fucking try this.
00:48:10.000And you'd see them trying to move their body, and they'd have a big belly and little small arms, and you're like, man, you've got a long road to go, but...
00:48:21.000Because if you're an athlete, say if you're a guy who wrestled or maybe you did a lot of CrossFit or something, and then you enter into a Jiu-Jitsu class, well, hey, you got a lot of tools to work with.
00:48:32.000You got a body that you're accustomed to moving around, you understand what it's like to push yourself.
00:48:37.000But if you're a person who's never done anything, and then all of a sudden here you are with a gi on and someone's grabbing you and you're like, or you don't know what to do, that's a brave person to take that step.
00:49:06.000I think jiu-jitsu is so good for like, because I'll teach the kids program at High Altitude Martial Arts to kickboxing, but like, man, like, I see a lot of adults, bro, they're just not familiar with the way that their body can move, you know?
00:49:18.000Like, I sometimes imagine, I'm like, man, like...
00:49:21.000Have you done anything like full throttle?
00:49:23.000Like how many people you think haven't done shit full throttle?
00:50:24.000It's evolving really quick, and I think probably a lot of it, man, is because, you know, like, you become a coach in MMA because you were probably a fighter.
00:50:43.000If I'm in 1993 and someone's like, hey, we're doing no rules fighting and I'm a wrestler, I'm going to teach them all the shit that I know about wrestling.
00:50:52.000I'm not going to weave out all of the things that are actually efficient for an actual fist fight.
00:50:57.000I'm just going to teach them everything that I know about wrestling.
00:51:01.000Now you don't have coaches that do that.
00:52:19.000I mean, you can roll him and pin him with it, right?
00:52:22.000And then a lot of the leg scrambling that I'm seeing from wrestlers, maybe they got it from jiu-jitsu or maybe jiu-jitsu got it from them, but I'm seeing a lot of similarities in the way that people tangle themselves and scrambles on the legs and stuff.
00:52:36.000That's super interesting just to watch the two grappling worlds kind of mesh into one.
00:52:41.000Well, the guillotine, not the guillotine like this one, but the guillotine in wrestling, or they would call it guillotine, became the twister in jiu-jitsu.
00:53:17.000When you're in the back, like say if you're holding someone's back, you lock down on the left leg, you wrap their right arm around your neck, so you baseball bat their right arm, You wrap it around your head, grab the top of their head, and it's a terrible spine lock.
00:53:32.000But it came from pinning someone that way.
00:53:35.000So if you can get to the side of them and lock a hold of one leg and lean on them, you can get to a point where the guy's both shoulders are touching the mat.
00:54:59.000Like I said, with the posture and adding in strength so that I can be posturally strong and my hips are strong so that I'm not hunched over and I'm not all twisted up because everything's kind of strong.
00:55:09.000I used to be very averse to wanting to lift.
00:55:13.000But dude, I swear my cardio has probably got two or three times as better just because I started lifting so much because now it's not as much effort to get someone off of me.
00:56:18.000Hip strength, everyone wants to have a really nice set of abs and all of this, but hip strength, I think, is the thing that will keep me good all the way up until I'm done training on Saturday.
00:56:44.000But I started implementing a lot of what he does in my training routine, and I actually got one of those monkey feet things, if you don't know what that is.
00:56:53.000It's a thing that you strap onto your shoe, and you can attach a dumbbell to it.
00:57:17.000If you think about roundhouse kicks, like...
00:57:20.000I've been kicking since I was a little kid, so I've got pretty decent hip flexor muscles, but I don't do an exercise to work them other than this stuff.
00:57:31.000Maybe lunges work them a little bit, but using this monkey foot thing, you can actually lift weights with your hip flexors as you're lifting your knee up, and that's all that muscle.
00:57:43.000See if you can find like a video of him doing it.
00:57:46.000But this guy has some really interesting perspective.
00:57:50.000A really interesting perspective on strengthening all the muscles around your knee.
00:57:54.000And he calls it knee over toes guy because traditionally, if you talk to someone, they'd say, hey, don't ever have your knee over your toes because it puts a lot of pressure on your knee.
00:59:20.000That's showing the optimal position to strengthen, like to have that sort of, what do they call it, a split squat where you have that crazy angle where your knee is hanging way over your toes and obviously you build up to it slowly.
00:59:44.000She's a beast and she has a pretty significant knee injury that she's trying to Recover from and she got a bunch of stem cells and shit shot in there.
00:59:53.000But she's now doing a lot of this guy's program to strengthen all the muscles around it.
00:59:57.000But see how he's into doing a lot of stuff that puts you in that position.
01:00:05.000do some crazy shit athletically, but he also uses all these examples of different athletes that have incredible explosive power with their legs, and they use these kind of exercises, and they're strong in these positions.
01:00:21.000So he shows this split squat, which is really hard to do, man.
01:00:26.000It's really hard to get down like that with that knee hanging way out over your toes and get all the way down so your back knee touches the ground and then pull yourself back up.
01:02:52.000But I feel like for a guy like you who already has a...
01:02:55.000Fucking nasty flying knee that would make your knee even scarier.
01:03:00.000Yeah, yeah, you know that knee you landed on Frankie was crazy I was by myself watching TV and I screamed out loud You know it was one of those oh Yeah, and that's a common thing in my house people like are you okay?
01:03:16.000I'm like watching the fights Yeah, that was a nasty one.
01:05:23.000And just realizing where I do best, you know?
01:05:25.000Just realizing where I do best, like, uh...
01:05:29.000I would love to, because I'm a calm dude, like I'm a relaxed guy, like I don't get too high or too low about anything, like it'd be nice if I could perform at that level, you know, but that's not the case for me.
01:05:40.000So I need to really, and that's why I do it before sparring, is I'll make sure no matter how tired I am, regardless of what's going on, you know, if I'm injured, if I'm, you know, overtrained, whatever it is, when it's sparring day, I'm making sure that I get myself to that same place.
01:05:56.000Obviously not intense enough to where I'm going to hurt my training partners, but I'm making sure that I can replicate that headspace regardless of the situation.
01:06:04.000Yeah, you said something after the fight when you were talking to Laura Sanko.
01:06:37.000I like the idea of Buddhism and being really peaceful and having a Zen mind and not wanting anything and being really free from all the suffering of the world and trying to get there.
01:06:50.000And that was kind of my philosophy, you know, up until I was choked out by Sterling and opened up my eyes and I hear him running around and celebrating and I was like, fuck that, you know?
01:07:03.000Everyone that I go into a fight now with, I'm really trying to hurt, you know?
01:07:06.000Like, I want to be the guy that's running around the cage and they're opening up their eyes, you know?
01:07:10.000And I didn't, you know, it's a different type of space to be in and it takes a lot of practice, especially for someone like me who isn't, you know, naturally like that.
01:07:23.000But, you know, that's the game that we're in and that's what I'm trying to do now.
01:09:11.000If I sit and think about it long enough, which I sometimes, you know, like, and not because of that fight, but just all of the shitty things, like you said, that happen after a loss, man.
01:09:21.000Like, all the shitty conversations you have to have with people.
01:10:07.000And that emotional pain, I think, is worse than physical pain.
01:10:12.000And I remember after the first time I lost, I had like my own existential crisis a little bit where I had to, you know, Venture off and really question like who I was as a person where I where I was putting a lot of my identity just because that shit hurts so bad man and uh I remember like If I keep doing this It might happen again,
01:10:34.000you know and I had to I had to like sit with that a little bit and I was like And you might not even get what you want out of this and then I was like damn and then I had to sit with that and then I was like But I'm really grateful for that because that was the real moment in my life where I was like, martial arts is my path.
01:10:56.000I remember having the very lucid thought of when I was having those feelings of this could happen again.
01:11:02.000You might not ever get into the UFC. You could be doing this and win some, lose some, and be a loser until you're 35, 40. And in my head, I was like...
01:11:56.000I spent probably every other weekend or every weekend in the mountains hiking 14ers or just camping for about, you know, probably six months and just like really...
01:12:06.000Uh, as, you know, corny as it might sound, you know, like, facing my ego, looking at, like, a lot of my identities and looking at, like, where I was placing my attachment in my life and, uh, and, you know, after kind of the six months of that and a lot of, like, experiences and stuff like that, uh, you know, I feel like I found my spirit and I feel like, uh, Yeah, that's kind of how I handled that situation.
01:12:32.000What is it about going into the woods, into the mountains, what is it about that that helps you?
01:12:37.000I think one is that it reminds you how little you are.
01:12:41.000It's good to be reminded that you're little.
01:12:43.000It's also not good to think that what we're doing is not important because what we're doing is still important.
01:12:49.000The relationships that we're building, the love that we're given and receiving is still super important, even though we're kind of a dumb species that's not going to be around for probably too much longer.
01:13:21.000And then I think too, it's just, you know, when you sit by yourself and you go to the mountains and you hike or I know that you like hunting.
01:13:28.000I don't know if you go by yourself or what it is.
01:13:30.000When you're by yourself, man, an hour can feel like a really long time.
01:13:40.000There's a lot of voices happening in my head.
01:13:43.000And when you just kind of sit and you listen to them and you kind of separate yourself from them sometimes and then question some of them sometimes, I think that you learn a lot of shit about what's going on in there that I don't think we know is going on in there when we're glued to the TV or we're glued to our phones and stuff like that.
01:14:01.000Yeah, giving yourself a moment in the woods, there's a lot that's going on there.
01:14:07.000One of the things that's going on is that the woods didn't even know you were alive.
01:14:12.000Before you walked into this mountain, before you walked up this hill, You'd never walked there before.
01:14:18.000These trees, these animals have no idea you're a thing.
01:14:25.000The trees are trying to get moisture and light and the animals are trying to get food and they're trying to stay alive and not be eaten.
01:14:31.000And as you're walking there and you look over like...
01:14:34.000Especially if you get to a mountain...
01:14:35.000And you can look into a valley and see more mountains in the distance.
01:14:38.000You realize, like, you could die here and things would just keep going on and you're totally insignificant.
01:14:44.000But in your insulated little world, you look at yourself as being the center of the universe, you know, because you're the center of your own mind and your own ego.
01:14:53.000And there's nothing other than, like, I've always said that that's one of the reasons why people that live in mountain towns and people that live by the ocean are so chill.
01:15:01.000Because there's something about it that just lets you know, hey, motherfucker, look out there.
01:15:15.000Like Colorado, when I lived there briefly and when I would drive up into the mountains above Boulder, I remember thinking, man, if this was a painting, it would be worth so much money.
01:15:55.000Yeah, it's, you know, someone's trying to, you know, they're trying to take whatever that feeling is and you see something incredibly beautiful and then put it into something and give people that awe-inspiring feeling when you're looking at it.
01:16:09.000But to me, nothing does it like nature itself.
01:18:22.000I have friends that are comics that love living in New York because you live in an apartment, you hop in an Uber, you drive to this club, you go to that club, you're hanging around, there's all this stuff to do, there's all these restaurants, let's go to this bar and that bar and everything's hopping and bam, bam, fuck you!
01:18:55.000We were just walking up the street just yesterday and where the Capitol building is in comparison to the road with all of the shops and all of that stuff.
01:19:05.000I was like, this is exactly like Denver.
01:20:37.000But because of the fact that he has this helicopter, he can just take it anywhere he wants to go.
01:20:44.000I wouldn't be surprised if that's like a thing in 10 years where everyone kind of, you know, or maybe not everyone, but a lot of people have their own helicopter.
01:20:51.000Well, that was what it was invented for, you know.
01:20:56.000The idea of a helicopter, they thought when they first created it, was going to be like a flying car and everyone would have a helicopter instead of a car.
01:21:04.000You should get Elon Musk on that, man.
01:22:38.000But as we were flying over downtown LA, you realize a lot of these buildings, these big-ass buildings, have X's on the roof where people land helicopters.
01:27:37.000Dude, if they could figure out a way to make it so that all of the damage that someone takes from fighting is reversible, that would be phenomenal.
01:28:08.000But also, like, I really, I don't know, man.
01:28:12.000Like, I really would like to ask Aldo, and I'd like to ask Cruz, you know, because both of those guys I see as guys that are just, like, they're obviously in it because they love it.
01:32:36.000No, I mean, he knew it was coming, and I'm sure he prepared for it.
01:32:39.000See, the thing is, an American top team...
01:32:41.000First of all, you've got this giant stable of top-tier talent, but also you've got guys who are fighting in championship fights.
01:32:49.000You've got a lot of really good coaches...
01:32:52.000And they're right at the cutting edge of the techniques that are used the most in the UFC. And everybody's trying to figure out a solution.
01:33:01.000I got a text message from Kieran Fitzgibbons, the coach at CSA. He goes, look, I can tell people how to check this thing.
01:33:10.000The idea you can't check it is fucking nonsense.
01:33:40.000I kind of noticed that in Conor, too, in the Poirier fight, where I was like, I saw that his leg was hurt, and I was like, he's got to start going after him, because there's no way he can go three more rounds like this.
01:35:18.000I've seen him do that a long time ago.
01:35:19.000It's really funny because you watch...
01:35:21.000A technique can be part of the system and then it's not until someone that's a really high caliber fighter uses the technique that people start to get on board with it.
01:35:36.000Tim Means was using those for a really long time.
01:35:38.000I mean, calf kicks have been around for a really long time.
01:35:51.000Or one of the first guys I ever saw throw him.
01:35:53.000There has to be someone recently, though, in the last couple of years where there was a fight where it was like, this is the fight where now everyone's bought into this idea.
01:36:04.000If I'm a fighter watching, I think it's really easy to get confidence when you're like, oh, this guy's one of the best guys in the world and he's doing this.
01:36:11.000But when you see someone who's maybe two or three fights into their professional career and they're doing something the same, you're like, eh, maybe it's good.
01:36:22.000So I try to watch for all of those things early because I think that there's just as much to be learned from those really, really high-level, championship-level fighters as there are on the day one debut UFC fighters episode.
01:37:15.000I think last year, too, I don't know, you tell me, but it feels like the sport, I mean, obviously it's gotten bigger, but man, it feels weird to not have fights on Saturday to watch.
01:39:23.000I mean, how much stronger can you get in like four months though?
01:39:26.000If you're going to go up to light heavyweight from where you're at, if you're a 185-er and you wanted to go up to 205, like a legit 205, you really want to probably get to like 220. Dude, that's a big gap.
01:39:49.000Oh, you're talking about in the heavier ones.
01:39:51.000Oh, I think that there should be one almost every 5. It's not a bad idea.
01:39:54.000Especially if we're going to start doing, you know, champ champ stuff.
01:39:57.000You know, I think that it's not a bad idea to kind of maybe adopt some of that stuff in boxing and kind of, you know, why not make it every five pounds and then make, you know, two title fights every card?
01:40:07.000Isn't it weird, though, that the UFC has the names of the weight classes that exist in boxing, but a totally different weight?
01:41:43.000If the guy's coming at you and he's much larger and there's much more danger in him hitting you, what do you do differently than you would do it for a 185-pound fighter?
01:42:52.000Adesanya is the heavy favorite with an implied win probability of 71.43%, despite Blachowicz 27-8 being the incumbent champ in the higher weight class.
01:43:02.000A $10 bet on Adesanya to win would return a profit of just $4.
01:50:14.000I mean, listen, if Khabib's not going to fight for the title, and you're not going to have an interim title, if Khabib's going to fight for the title again, I want Oliveira.
01:50:25.000Because I feel like if anyone's going to fight for the actual title, I feel like, as a purist, Charles Oliveira has looked sensational.
01:50:34.000You look at what he did to Tony Ferguson.
01:51:50.000Like, for me, as a fighter kind of coming up...
01:51:54.000I watch people talk like that and Tyson's one of my favorite people to talk or listen to talk also and then Kobe Bryant is a good one but like all of those guys where it's just like borderline like a little psychotic you know like borderline like wow these guys are probably fantasizing about like hurting their opponents for weeks you know oh yeah Tyson most certainly did Do you ever see that documentary on Tyson where he goes into depth about his thought process going from walking from
01:52:24.000the dressing room, walking to the ring, and then stepping into the ring, the transformation that his mind makes?
01:52:29.000I saw a video of it where he's like, and I'm looking at him, and I'm looking at him, and I'm waiting for him.
01:52:36.000I love that Tyson's so open about talking about stuff like that because, I mean, I promised my mom and Erica that I would keep it, like, fairly at a low level of intensity with my, like, detail and description of, like, what goes on in my mind, too.
01:53:05.000I don't want someone to frame me later, you know?
01:53:07.000So your mom and your girlfriend sat you down, and they go, let's have a talk.
01:53:11.000Yeah, because I've, you know, in the past, I've brought up, like, yeah, you know, like, I just would really like to, and I, you know, I got memed for this, but, you know, I was ready to rip his heart open, or rip his chest open and start eating his heart, you know?
01:53:25.000Like, just saying weird shit like that, it's like, my mom and girlfriend were like, please, for God's sake, just don't say anything.
01:53:31.000Don't say that, because then the neighbors want to talk to us about it.
01:53:34.000But no, man, I think that like, I don't know how many other people are on that level of like thinking, but you know, it's definitely something that I've adopted.
01:53:41.000And I think that it's like really, a really good survival tool for this sport.
01:53:46.000Like having a mind like that is a super good survival technique.
01:53:51.000Is it because when the shit goes down and you're in the middle of the firefight, you're maintaining that mindset rather than trying to gather it up while it's a fight for your life?
01:54:18.000It's not like you're going in and it's like, I maybe have this, I maybe don't, whatever, I'll let go because I don't want to hurt this person.
01:54:23.000It's like, no, if I get that sucker, I better be ready to wrench on it.
01:54:27.000You have to be prepared for that level of violence.
01:54:30.000And I think that you don't really get to prepare for that unless you've done a lot of hard thinking about it.
01:54:36.000When Curtis and Derek Lewis fought, and Derek KO'd him with that uppercut and then blasted him when he was out a couple of times, and then he's like, hey, that's Herb Dean's fault.
01:55:16.000Yeah, or walking up and down the Austin Strip.
01:55:18.000Like, that's not where you have to be in your head when you walk into a cage, and people aren't going to understand that.
01:55:22.000I didn't understand that for a really long time, where it was like, even someone like Cody Garbrandt and McGregor, like, you watch how they act, and sometimes you're like, man, that guy's, like, really arrogant, like this and that, and it's like, that's what he's doing because we're in, like, we're in a different set of cultural rules, you know?
01:58:51.000Like, I'll read, like, as much, you know, war strategy and shit on war and stuff on combat and psychology of combat and all of that stuff.
01:58:59.000I'll read that stuff because I really believe, man, like, you can really program that in your brain, you know?
01:59:04.000So, like, the first 30, 40 minutes of my day when I'm in training camp and outside, but I'm just reading different things when I'm outside of training camp is, like, war stuff, man, because you can really program.
01:59:14.000I think you can program yourself to not only, like...
01:59:18.000It's important in performance, man, but fighting is so much bigger than just what's happening in the cage, man.
01:59:28.000It's a certain place that you need to put yourself in that just is where you need to be, in my opinion, to be at the level that I'm competing at now.
01:59:40.000So when you say war books, what kind of books are you reading?
01:59:44.000I'm really enjoying Robert Greene's The 33 Strategies of War, which kind of just covers like a lot of, you know, each chapter is a different strategy of war.
01:59:54.000And I'll read each chapter and, you know, sit and kind of think about like, okay, how can I use this in my arena?
02:00:00.000You know, because not a lot of it is just on the actual combat part.
02:00:07.000What we're doing, man, because I get a lot of praise or compliments on how technical I am.
02:00:12.000I could give a shit less how technical I am.
02:00:15.000I could care less about how good of a striker I am.
02:00:18.000I could care less about how skilled I am or any of that.
02:00:27.000That extends into the level of intensity that you're bringing in when you walk into a fight.
02:00:32.000It extends into how you're living each day in day life and how your relationships go.
02:00:37.000And, uh, it's, it's way outside the cage, man.
02:00:40.000So, for me, in camp, I'm not a very fun guy to be around, you know, like, because I'm programming myself in order to, you know, be as war-minded as possible.
02:00:50.000And that, you know, like I said, that shit don't work in real life.
02:00:53.000So, uh, I'm trying to find nice balance in it, but, uh, It's just different, man.
02:00:59.000When you're reading those things, I feel it in my bones, man.
02:01:14.000It's just something where – I mean books are just brain food and I spend my first 30 or 45 minutes of every day reading something like that because I think it gets me in that gear.
02:01:26.000It gets me – It just gets me in that war brain like you see with Tyson.
02:02:25.000That I never knew anything about until I started kind of like gearing my mind for war and talking with people and talking with my sports psychologist and all of that.
02:02:35.000So that when I walk into the arena that night, now, you know, now that I feel like I'm a new fighter, I'm ready to flip the switch like this.
02:02:46.000You know, like when I'm getting my hands taped, I'm sitting there and I'm like, Let me put my hands on someone.
02:02:52.000And I think that that's from the reading of the books, from the peaking process, from the visualizations, from having thoughts of wanting to really put your hands on someone to put it nicely and laying in bed and not thinking about anything else except for how dominant you're going to be in this fight.
02:03:12.000It's a whole new thing for me now, man.
02:03:15.000In the last couple of fights, it's for sure flourished.
02:03:20.000So before that, on the week of the fight, how would you, in your previous fights, how would you handle the week of the fight?
02:03:26.000I see that all the time with fighters too, is they'll try to distract themselves as much as possible.
02:03:31.000And if you don't give yourself time, whether it's a week before, 10 weeks before, whatever, if you don't give yourself time to sit with those thoughts that are happening inside your head, they're going to come out.
02:03:43.000And they're going to come out 10 minutes before the fight, 15 minutes before the fight, and you're not going to have time to deal with those.
02:04:17.000I don't know if it's because of the moment or because I think after doing a lot of thinking about it, I think it's that my Eastern way of thinking about things where it's like no desire, no attachment, no this.
02:04:31.000It wants to make your life feel really small.
02:04:34.000It wants you to have goals that are this big because anything this big you're going to have to suffer that much more for.
02:05:40.000And I really believe if I tried to distract myself that whole day and not think about that, that demon would have popped up and been like, hey, guess what, bitch?
02:05:54.000We're happening 10-15 minutes before the fight.
02:07:47.000I think even the good thoughts are the ones that are the most dangerous because they're the ones that you want to have, but they might not be the healthiest because they can get greedy and they can get hungry.
02:08:49.000So, for example, I think that when you interview a fighter and you hear them not acknowledge anything that their opponent does well, I think that that's, you know, you...
02:09:01.000That's a good thought that can sabotage you later.
02:09:05.000So if I'm like, okay, well, Sterling's a really good grappler, but he can't strike.
02:09:57.000It's like you're recognizing and acknowledging that all this hard work and even these mindsets that you put yourself in where you do grapple with reality, it's working.
02:10:10.000It's clearly working in two big fights in a row.
02:10:15.000But also I think that that little voice that makes you feel like the man, if he gets, just like any voice, if it gets carried away, it's going to lead to me not doing what I need to do in order for me to keep excelling and keep doing better and better.
02:11:46.000There's no way TJ's going to come back and get a direct shot at the title, especially after getting popped for EPO. So he's going to have to beat at least one person, probably a couple people.
02:11:56.000Um, where do you see the division right now?
02:12:00.000When you look at that, like, you are likely one of the next guys in line for the title.
02:12:06.000Would you be willing to fight one more time for the title?
02:12:09.000Are you going to hold out for a title shot?
02:12:19.000No, it would be, you know, if they give me the title shot, great.
02:12:22.000If I have to win another one, I'm cool with that too.
02:12:24.000You know, I want it to be for a number one contender spot, and I feel like the only people that are really in that conversation is probably Garbrandt and probably TJ. But even Garbrandt, right, who has one victory after losing three in a row.
02:12:38.000And then, I mean, even TJ coming back from a two-year suspension.
02:13:43.000I don't really know why it was him in February.
02:13:46.000Anyways, man, I think that I should be either next for the title or given someone like the UFC has been talking about me and TJ, I'm open to that fight also.
02:16:39.000And afterwards, because I used to train with Dwayne Ludwig also a little bit, I was like, hey, Dwayne, do you think I could go train with Andy for a couple weeks?
02:16:48.000And he was like, yeah, yeah, we'll set it up.
02:16:51.000And then, like, here I am after I fought in the WKAs, like, a couple days later, like, staying at Andy's neighbor's house, getting picked up by him at the little train station or however I got there.
02:17:07.000And I was like, this guy really picked me up from the train station, you know?
02:18:51.000Yeah, the cap of his hip was so worn out.
02:18:54.000He sent me the medical list of all the shit that was wrong with his hip.
02:18:58.000And you're like, oh my god, it was like torn labrum, torn this, torn that, arthritis, cartilage damage, like everything's all fucked up in there.
02:23:39.000They hurt, but you need him sometimes.
02:23:41.000It is really interesting that the mind, like, there's no clear, you can't just go, well, this is the work that you have to do, this is the mindset that you have to put in.
02:23:51.000No, it's like a constant wrestling match with your consciousness.
02:23:54.000Constant wrestling match with seeking comfort and avoiding injury and avoiding, I don't want to be tired, I don't want to push myself.
02:24:03.000It's this constant battle of you trying to get control of your emotions and your mind and your body.
02:24:14.000Bro, like, I swear for 10 weeks, or I guess so I do 10-week camps, for 9 weeks, every single day I'm sore, and every single day I'm like, today is probably going to suck a little bit, you know, for 9 weeks.
02:24:27.000And then that last week I tried to taper, and even then I'm like losing weight and having a sweat and stuff, so it's even shitty then.
02:24:32.000And then I wake up on the fight and I'm like, okay, whew, I finally feel like an athlete, you know?
02:24:44.000Like 58. I would guess that I'm probably 58. I don't check when I'm out of camp.
02:24:48.000But in camp, I'm probably, you know, training good and like eating still what I want.
02:24:52.000I'm probably about 53. And so how hard does that cut?
02:24:56.000I try to get to 148 a week before and then I just lose the last 13. So really I'm going from 53 of like being in good shape and eating okay, losing five pounds and then cutting that last 13 that week.
02:25:09.000And are you depleting, are you doing that water load thing where you drink a lot of water?
02:26:42.000And I'm pretty good at like going to bed and being like, I'll probably weigh this tomorrow just depending on like how hungry or how hard I've worked out that day.
02:26:52.000You know, honestly, I think that the reload is the most important part or maybe not most important part because I don't cut an incredible amount of weight.
02:27:01.000It's not like I'm doing 20 in a week or whatever, but...
02:27:03.000I think it's really underrated how you put the weight back on and what you're putting in your body.
02:27:09.000And the UFC does a really good job of giving us all of our shakes and stuff after the weight cuts so that we're actually feeling good when we walk into the cage.
02:27:17.000That is very nice that the UFC provides all that.
02:28:38.000Tells you exactly what to do and it's easy when a scientist is telling you exactly what to do because before, it's like, should I eat pizza instead of drink this gallon of water?
02:28:48.000And it's like, I'm definitely choosing the pizza.
02:28:51.000The UFC's Performance Institute, what they've done by setting that place up is pretty extraordinary.
02:28:57.000To have a place where fighters can choose to go down there and do their camps.
02:29:01.000You have world-class coaches and people that understand strength and conditioning and recovery and all these different ways to keep your body fit and healthy for a fight.
02:29:15.000And then also to analyze where your weight cuts at, where your body fat's at, what's your VO2 max.
02:29:21.000Having one A one-stop shop with a big, giant, state-of-the-art facility they developed is really fucking incredible.
02:29:31.000All of that stuff with the rings and the bands and stuff that measure your heart rate and stuff.
02:29:38.000I think it's just going to make athletes get this much better, man.
02:29:42.000Talking about the evolution of the sport, especially in the sport of fighting, I don't think that we've seen too much actual scientific stuff.
02:29:49.000Because there's probably just not as much money as the NFL and the NBA and athletics and other areas.
02:29:55.000And the players of those sports have a lot more money to spend on those types of things.
02:29:58.000But I think that we're going to start to see money get dumped into the sport of MMA. And then we're going to really start understanding the science of cutting weight and how to put muscle on and what type of muscle to put on and all of that jazz.
02:30:12.000Now, did you ever rehydrate with IVs before they had an IV ban?
02:30:24.000Do you think that rehydrating orally is just as good or better?
02:30:27.000I mean, I've only done the IV once, so I guess I can only speak to that one experience.
02:30:31.000But, I mean, I don't ever feel like I'm dehydrated when I walk into the cage, you know?
02:30:36.000Like, I'm usually walking in at, like, now 51 or 52, where before it was, like, 47, 48, just because I wasn't doing all of the posture stuff and, you know, getting certain things strong.
02:30:48.000But now I'm walking in at, like, yeah, 51, 52. Yeah.
02:30:51.000What would you think about a fight with no weight cuts?
02:30:55.000Do you think that we're ever going to get to a point where people stop doing that, where they can figure out a way to stop fighters from cutting weight?
02:31:02.000I think when the sport gets mainstream enough, I think it's going to.
02:31:06.000Because I think that there's going to be a lot of...
02:31:08.000Eventually, man, as much as I hate to say it, like...
02:31:12.000I mean, it's already happened, but some guys, you know, they have to pull out of fights because they're cutting weight and fainting and all of that stuff.
02:31:19.000You know, eventually, if the sport is going to be, you know, on the level of the NFL and all of that, I think it's going to be where they have to kind of take that out or else it's going to be too brutal for, like, the common audience to watch.
02:31:31.000Didn't it just happen with Bobby Green?
02:31:33.000Didn't he just pull out of a fight because of a weight cut?
02:31:35.000I think he blacked out the weight cut.
02:31:52.000Yeah, I think that they were scheduled, though, a couple weeks before this last fight that they had, and I think it was, maybe, you know, I'm not sure, but I think it was maybe a scenario.
02:32:00.000But yeah, man, that stuff happens, you know, like, you can't be passing out, cutting weight.
02:32:05.000If we want, like, the mass population watching, I think that that's probably a little too brutal.
02:32:10.000It seems like something, to me it seems like almost it's one thing they've been doing this way for so long that they just keep doing it.
02:32:18.000Whereas if they came along today and there was a blank slate and they said, alright, do you think it's a good idea if the fighters just dehydrate the fuck out of themselves 24 hours before they fight?
02:33:17.000Yeah, I think, you know, it's one thing it's an undercard fight, but like for a championship fight, I almost think you should send him home.
02:34:12.000First of all, you'd have to give people way more options in terms of weight classes, and I think that's something we were speaking about earlier.
02:34:17.000I really think you have to have at least every 10 pounds, and you might be right every 5 pounds, but there's this idea that that would somehow or another water down the sport, like...
02:34:30.000Look how he keeps going up in weight and beating these guys and winning titles all the way up to light heavyweight.
02:34:35.000Knocks out Kovalev at light heavyweight and comes back down.
02:34:37.000Fights at 68. I believe he was 52 when he fought Mayweather.
02:34:42.000He fights all sorts of different weight classes.
02:34:45.000Yeah, I will say I think that there is this huge emphasis on having to fight in one weight class and to be the biggest guy in the weight class.
02:34:54.000I don't think that that's super important.
02:34:56.000I fought 145 for most of my professional career, but when I got into the UFC, I was like, okay, I'll lose the weight for that amount of money.
02:35:04.000I won't lose it for a couple grand and whatever promotion I was fighting in before, but it's like...
02:35:11.000I don't think it's too huge of a thing, you know?
02:35:15.000And I think that, you know, we're starting to see that now where it's like, no, like, you can jump up a weight class and still do really well because it's not a huge deal.
02:35:23.000But we're going to find out this weekend.
02:35:26.000Because if Adesanya really does weigh at 193, and let me tell you something, man.
02:35:30.000If he could stop Blachowicz at light heavyweight and become champ champ and he doesn't even gain weight, Jesus, Luizus.
02:36:10.000He said he had leg cramps, he couldn't sleep, and he had a glass of wine, and that didn't do it, so he drank another glass, that didn't do it, then he drank the whole bottle.
02:36:18.000So he said when he fought, he was probably drunk.
02:36:20.000Look, he's come up with so many excuses for that fight, it's crazy.
02:38:10.000So it's like the idea, so I go to a place called Rock Solid Physical Therapy, and it's this place where muscle activation is like the type of therapy that it is, but the idea is it's like, okay, if my shoulder is sore, it's because something in there isn't firing.
02:38:54.000I've been going to them for about six years and getting that done about every single week, and that, I think, is the reason that I don't really ever get hurt.
02:39:02.000I can't think of a really big injury that I've gotten that hasn't been a broken bone or something in a really long time.
02:39:25.000And there are a lot of times injuries where people are, like, a lot of times you have back pain and you really don't realize that it's because your hamstrings are tight.
02:39:34.000And that it's pulling, your whole, your thing is all kind of crunched up.
02:39:38.000And if you can stretch your hamstrings out, it actually alleviates some tension in your back.
02:40:02.000I think so much of the time when guys get hurt, it's just because they're sore in one area or one area isn't firing and they need to compensate in some area.
02:40:10.000And they do that for X amount of time and then that area ends up getting injured because it's just tired from compensating.
02:40:49.000Yeah, so here's the nice thing about, I think, where I'm in a really unique position, where I don't think maybe a lot of fighters are, is that I've been with the same, pretty much the same set of coaches for 12 years now.
02:41:13.000If I'm someone's new coach and they're complaining all the time about being tired and needing to rest on this day or whatever day, I'm probably going to think that that person's just being whiny.
02:41:22.000But with my set of coaches, because we've been around for so long and a lot of them I would consider my best friends, I can kind of have that open dialogue of like, hey man, I think that we need to pick it up on this day and we need to do less on this day.
02:41:39.000And they're like, yeah, okay, we trust you to be able to do that.
02:41:41.000And like I said, man, I'm like a really self-sufficient guy.
02:41:44.000I don't blame anyone and I don't expect anyone to be the cause of my success or my failure.
02:41:53.000So, honestly, I take a lot of that into my own way, and I think that working with Christian Allen has kind of helped me with that a lot, too, because Christian Allen, he never really told me exactly what to do.
02:42:03.000He kind of let me find my own way, which I know a lot of people don't like, and at times, you know, I didn't really like, if I'm being completely honest, but...
02:42:12.000It also did help me become really, really self-sufficient.
02:42:16.000And so a lot of me putting together my camp is me putting it together.
02:42:21.000But kind of to answer your question a little bit more is it's like when I'm setting up my practices for each day, I don't ever miss any of those practices.
02:42:28.000Even if I'm dead tired, I'll still go in.
02:42:31.000Maybe I'll drill or I'll do something different, but I'm not going to miss that day of practice.
02:42:35.000And if I have to, you know, because I need to, I'm just rescheduling it for a different day.
02:42:41.000So I do set my own schedule, but every practice gets made because I think that that makes the mind strong.
02:42:47.000But if I am a little bit tired or if it's a weird week or whatever, I'm stressed out or whatever is happening in my life and I need to go a little bit slower on a day, I will do that.
02:42:57.000When you say, like, if you're tired, do you monitor your heart rate?
02:44:24.000Yeah, and that's another thing is that there's so many other factors to everything, too, where it's like...
02:44:29.000Yeah, maybe I had a good workout because I was in the green, but also maybe I had a good workout because I didn't do that much the day before.
02:44:35.000I did have a lot of coffee or whatever.
02:44:41.000There's so many variables with the human body, whether or not you're getting massages, whether or not you're doing ice baths, whether or not you're doing sauna.
02:44:48.000There's so many different things that can help you recover and help your body bounce back.
02:47:11.000Monday is our heavy lifting day because I think Monday you're the most rested.
02:47:16.000I think your body's more capable of obviously lifting more weights the more rested you are.
02:47:21.000Wednesday is more of a metabolic day, so like a conditioning day.
02:47:26.000And I only do those really in the last three or four weeks of camp because Aaron kind of puts me through more of a strength building stuff because that's more important for my body type.
02:48:36.000But I find that I'm just doing better when I'm focusing on the technical aspects of the sport and not as much about the, am I going on a run just to go on a run?
02:48:46.000Or am I going on a run because it's actually helping?
02:48:48.000And can I actually get this help in a different area?
02:48:51.000Because I used to really enjoy doing trail runs.
02:48:54.000And, like, I had to kind of cut those because I just wasn't able to train as hard and, like, learn as much and drill as much.
02:49:01.000So I had to cut the run because I think it's more important that I'm actually learning and getting better and drilling.
02:49:06.000Just from being tired from the trail run?
02:49:17.000Yeah, so I do the sauna twice a week also.
02:49:20.000Because actually the UFC also recommended this to me also.
02:49:24.000So I guess you can train your body to get used to heat and it can get used to how much you're flushing out as long as obviously you're putting it back in you.
02:49:34.000So I'll do a sauna session two days a week and then I'll do...
02:50:42.000Also, there's a study they did in Norway where people who did the sauna four days a week for, I believe it was 20 minutes at 170 degrees, I think is the protocol they used.
02:50:54.000And they experienced a 40% decrease in all-cause mortality.
02:51:12.000The heat shock proteins, what it's doing is it creates this radical anti-inflammatory response for the body because your body's freaking out.
02:51:21.000Your body doesn't want to be in 170 degrees.
02:51:25.000And so because of that and you're sweating it out and struggling, your body produces these cytokines and it has an amazing effect just on health and wellness.
02:51:37.000I have one in my house and it was one of the first things I did when I moved to Austin is get one and it took a couple months to get it and get it brought in and installed and everything like that and I was sweating it because I was like, God, I miss the sauna because I had one in my house in California and it's It's a game changer, man.
02:51:54.000Dan Gable's a huge believer in it as well.
02:51:57.000And I read him talking about the sauna, and he thinks that it's a secret weapon that the Russians and a lot of other athletes in other countries use on a regular basis.
02:52:05.000And he wishes that American wrestlers adopted it.
02:55:01.000He's obviously in very good shape for his age, but to be able to do that for eight fucking hours, especially while people are staring at you, that is boring as fuck.
02:55:54.000And I'm more upset that I had to get rid of it because it started to suck, but then it became something that was like, oh, this is something that I really enjoy doing over and over and over again.
02:56:05.000And it's like, yeah, even if it does suck, afterwards it just feels good.
02:56:09.000I feel like you don't have to do a lot of things where afterwards you feel super rewarded.
02:57:00.000Maybe one day it will be the goal every day, but for now it's like, how much can I make today suck so that I can have that one little reward at the end of a training camp?
02:57:09.000And it's a big-ass reward and it feels good.
02:57:12.000Yeah, well for you it's the ultimate because you're literally, you're doing something first of all where you're putting your health in jeopardy.
02:57:20.000You're doing one of the most dangerous sports that a person can compete in and you're putting everything on the line.
02:57:27.000You're putting your health on the line.
02:58:03.000And, like, fighting is really the only thing that, like, or winning, I guess I should say, is the only thing where I'm just like, you know?