In this episode, I sit down with one of my good friends and former college basketball player, Kaila Crawford. We talk about her basketball career, how she got started in the sport, and how she ended up in the NBA. She also talks about how she became a professional basketball player and what it was like growing up in a small town in the south of England. We also talk about what it's like being a female in a male-dominated sport like basketball and how it has changed her life. I hope you enjoy this episode and that it gives you some insight into who you can be and what you can do to be the best version of yourself. Thank you so much to Kaila for coming on the pod and being a part of this episode. I know it was a lot of fun to have her on the show and I appreciate her for stepping up and doing what she did. XOXO, Pat and Kaila xoxo and we're back with another episode of Nothing but Nothing! Xoxo, Pat & Kaila xoxoxo xoxOoo and we'll see you next week! xoxoo -Pat and Kail xoxOXOXO - We'll see ya soon! -P.S. Thank you for listening and supporting this podcast! Love ya! -PAT & KELLY xOXO P.S -KELLY & P.A. - P.M. :P - Kaila is a great friend of mine and I really appreciate her support and appreciate you for being here on the podcast! -Kaila is amazing! - Thank you Kaila and I hope that you enjoy listening to this podcast and supporting me so much! -BEN & I appreciate you! -Merry Christmas!! -ROBBIE . -JOSH & PABE XO -SORRY FOR EVERYTHING! -JACOBY XO! - RYANCHEY! -RADIO SUPPORTED AND RYANA XO -JORDY - RAYA - PANDORA XOYANNA XOXOYO - JUICY, RYOZYOO -RYANO XOZO - PODCASTING - JAYE AND AYOYOOO - BABY SONNAXO
00:00:28.000I mean, I kind of decided that, ever since cutting my hair, that, I don't know, I'm just going to do away with not being comfortable in any area.
00:00:39.000So, heels, you're going to have to pay me to do that.
00:03:44.000You know, if your hand's closed to give, you know, you can't be open to receive kind of thing.
00:03:49.000And I think that the more that I can give to people, the more that I can get myself, you know.
00:03:55.000And I think that, you know, just like plants and animals, the way, you know, if you look at nature, everything is a symbiotic relationship.
00:04:01.000And I think that humans can be the same way.
00:04:04.000That's an interesting way of looking at things.
00:04:05.000Have you always looked at things like that?
00:04:09.000I shouldn't say not always, but I always was a person that wanted to be outside, wanted to be in nature.
00:04:17.000I grew up in an urban jungle in Milwaukee and just concrete everywhere.
00:04:21.000No place to go outside except for just playing in the alleys and stuff.
00:04:28.000My lineage is from Lithuania where they're like...
00:04:33.000Very in tune with nature, and they're pagans and, like, slash Christian.
00:04:37.000And so they really, you know, just my whole family, you know, they come from living off the land and stuff like that.
00:04:43.000And so that's always been something I wanted to do.
00:04:46.000I was just put in this situation, you know, just to, you know, try and do martial arts and trying to, like, you know, I guess control my emotions and stuff, just living in this, you know, chaotic environment that I grew up in.
00:05:02.000Nature is where I felt the most peace at.
00:05:04.000So that's always something that I connected with.
00:05:07.000And then the more that I kind of focus on nature and animals and stuff like that, I noticed that, you know, there's a, I don't know, I try to live my life the same way.
00:05:19.000Well, it's just interesting leading up to that fight, too, that you are kind of like the antidote to a lot of the things that people are getting annoyed at in MMA. All the trash talking and all the negativity and all the fighting at press conferences.
00:05:31.000You just shut all that shit down with Ioana.
00:08:11.000And then we've had, in that fight, we had a few, I don't want to say magical moments, but say for instance, we bring Mishka with us everywhere we go.
00:08:23.000Our flight was delayed three hours, four hours.
00:08:26.000And when we landed, we landed like a few hours after that truck drove through the park and killed all the people in New York, which was right by our hotel, which if we would have been there on time, we would have signed the posters and then been outside at a park walking Meshia.
00:08:41.000So, I mean, just little things like that.
00:08:43.000Like we would have been outside maybe at that spot and had been witness to that thing.
00:08:49.000Or at least would have heard it or something.
00:08:50.000And that would have affected me, you know.
00:08:55.000Yeah, and there is just all this stuff about, you know, like, people are going to be protesting and stuff like that, and they even, like, the day of the fight, and I just get a lot of anxiety over that stuff.
00:09:03.000I get anxiety over, like, big crowds of people, and it's, like, you know, just feel like crazy.
00:10:09.000I mean, it's either one of two things.
00:10:11.000Either you really dislike me enough to, like, you know, put your hands on me outside of the competition, or it's fake, you know, or it's a character, or you're just doing this for show.
00:10:21.000You know, it's either one of the two, and I just don't think she's really a bad person.
00:10:24.000I just think that, you know, she's put in this position, and maybe she, you know, that's what she felt like she had to do.
00:10:29.000Well, I wrote something about the Volkan Ozdemir-Daniel Cormier fight the other day that what...
00:10:34.000What Ozdemir was trying to do and what Cormier was trying to do is they're trying to sow seeds of doubt.
00:10:40.000There's a real issue with someone that's about to fight where you're about to compete and it's this crazy nerve-wracking thing and the unknown is always there.
00:10:49.000You don't know what's going to happen.
00:10:50.000So if someone can convince you, I'm going to fuck you up, you're like, God damn, is he going to fuck me up?
00:10:54.000You really start thinking it if it's in your head.
00:10:57.000And one of the things that Daniel said in that fight was that there's levels to this thing.
00:11:02.000You think you're going to come in and fuck me up?
00:12:13.000Boogie woman and all the you're mentally unstable and then in the history with her dad and her history growing up and just all of those things coming to a head.
00:12:22.000This was exactly what Rose wanted it to be.
00:12:24.000The scariest possible situation for her to be in.
00:12:27.000In New York with the Antifa march that happened in front of the hotel the morning of...
00:12:32.000We almost didn't make it to the fight.
00:12:48.000It happened the morning of the fight right through the front of the hotel, which that's fine, but Rose had seen some weeks in advance, someone somewhere posted that Antifa was going to strike on November 4th.
00:13:05.000Yeah, they were planning on taking over the whole country.
00:13:07.000They were planning on a strike on November.
00:13:16.000So, like, the day of the fight, we always like to, like, first thing we do when we get up is just shake it out.
00:13:24.000Because all your nerves and stuff, all your nervous energy is inside of you the day of the fight, and you don't want to go to the arena the first time breaking a sweat or getting that heavy breathing.
00:15:42.000Lately, because of the growth in size, lately she's been walking around 125, 127. But every fight, like the day before weigh-in, she's Yeah, by fight week, I'm like 120. Yeah.
00:15:57.000Talking about going to saunas and like, man, what are we going to do to get this one-off?
00:19:21.000So, yeah, like, I mean, I try not to be too scientifical on stuff, but, you know, whatever, like, whatever feel good, like, whatever makes you feel good, I think, is what you should eat.
00:19:37.000I grew up, you know, my mom was Lithuanian, like, my parents were actually, like, Lithuanian refugees that came...
00:19:43.000I'm first-generation American, and we grew up, like, eating sauerkraut and potatoes and, you know, just real Eastern European type stuff.
00:19:51.000I never really liked candy or anything like that.
00:19:55.000It's been a lifestyle for me and never a thing that I'm on this diet that I have to do.
00:20:03.000How did you get involved in martial arts?
00:20:07.000My stepdad put me and my brother in taekwondo from a young age.
00:20:12.000And then from there, you know, it was just such a positive thing for me just because it kept us out of trouble.
00:20:19.000It taught me how to defend myself, gave me confidence, things like that.
00:20:23.000And then we also watched a lot of Dragon Ball Z growing up, so we thought we were badasses or whatever, and we thought we could power up and stuff.
00:20:31.000It was a fun thing for, like, as kids.
00:20:33.000And then it kind of just evolved into more of, like, a, you know, real-life application.
00:20:38.000And, you know, people used to make fun of us, like, you know, for doing that.
00:20:43.000But we also used to get in, like, little fights in our neighborhoods and stuff.
00:21:27.000And then after that, once I got into high school, I was doing a lot of sports and stuff, like cross-country, basketball, track, everything.
00:21:33.000I just try to be as active as possible, try and stay busy.
00:21:57.000So, I first walked into Duke Gym, I think I was, like, 14. And then I left because I had, like, other obligations and, like, you know, stopped training for a while.
00:22:07.000But I was, you know, still doing other sports and stuff.
00:22:09.000And I came back, you know, when I was, like, 17. So, you were really thinking at that time, like, maybe this would be something you could do for a career.
00:22:18.000You know, not for sure, but, like, definitely, like...
00:22:27.000Did you have another thing that you were thinking of doing before that, though?
00:22:29.000Like, when you were thinking about your future...
00:22:32.000Yeah, I mean, I knew that I had to do something for money, so, like, I tried a semester of college and realized, like, this is just, like, high school, but I'm paying for it.
00:22:43.000I really liked English, and so I thought maybe I could go into that, or, like, except I tried to push me into computers, and I was like, this is stupid.
00:22:52.000Like, I'm good at it, but it just really doesn't excite me at all.
00:23:14.000Yeah, that's always been, like, my thing is, like, you know, when they ask us what we want to be when I grow up, I always said I want to be a farmer.
00:23:23.000Just because you like the idea of growing things out of the ground and, like you were saying before, making your own food from scratch and...
00:23:29.000Yeah, a tomato from your garden that you grew tastes so much better than from the store.
00:23:34.000Now, when you two started hanging out, and Pat had already been an accomplished kickboxer, was an MMA fighter, and did that sort of embolden you to the idea?
00:26:28.000I mean, obviously I knew that was going to happen.
00:26:31.000I actually envisioned me knocking her out with an uppercut in the third round because I thought she was going to be overly aggressive at a certain point and she would get frustrated.
00:26:43.000That didn't happen because she thought I was throwing a jab.
00:27:39.000It's just something that it looks scary, but it's not to be scared of.
00:27:44.000That's interesting the way you're putting it, because most people thought of her as being like this very solid, her fundamentals are rock solid, she's incredibly technical, vicious jab, but you just saw that the rhythm was predictable.
00:28:01.000We knew everything she was going to do before she did it.
00:28:04.000We've been watching it for a long time.
00:30:13.000And that's been the goal since we started.
00:30:15.000Like even another, like he was saying, the mentality of this last training camp, it wasn't just like, you know, okay, I'm going to journal, which I do, you know, journal a lot.
00:30:24.000We're all like, you know, like we talk about just doing like a float tank or something like that.
00:30:28.000Like those little mental exercises are great, but also like working on creativity.
00:31:31.000I mean, if you can get in the cold ice bath, then nobody standing across from me is going to scare you.
00:31:37.000There's nothing scarier than the cold.
00:31:38.000But also, and I was trying to say this the whole time, but...
00:31:44.000I've been also getting back into piano, because I used to play piano as a kid, and I got away from that ever since moving from state to state and not having an actual piano, just a keyboard.
00:31:54.000It's stupid trying to play on a keyboard, but I finally got a piano in my house, and so that's another thing that I started incorporating into my training, just training my mind to just be more creative and just having an outlet, too.
00:32:48.000To be able to control an individual finger at different times and hit one beat on the left hand and a totally different something on the right hand.
00:32:55.000And to be able to just do all of that.
00:32:59.000But over and over and over and over again, no matter how many times you play that same song, you just keep playing it and you love playing it.
00:33:04.000Over and over again, I think that gives Rose a cat-like balance in a way.
00:33:10.000I'm sure you have seen a lot of those things that people are doing now where a light will go up on a board and you have to touch the light.
00:34:35.000Like I said, that's somewhat of an idea that we have an idea for this next training camp where we're going to be launching tennis balls at Rose and having her punch balls out of midair.
00:34:57.000I just saw it, and if we throw multiple balls at you in different ways, and she can throw a real jab and hit a ball, boom, then she'll be able to...
00:35:10.000I think her reflexes for hitting someone right in the tooth while they're moving is going to be more elevated.
00:35:19.000And this is like I said, we always add new stuff.
00:35:25.000We don't ever go away from hitting a freaking bag or doing a mitt work.
00:38:26.000Because when a girl gets, like, if I get you, like, another girl with something or she gets me with something, I get so much more angry at it than, like, say if, like, you know, somebody like Pat or another dude, like, gets me with something, you know?
00:39:11.000It's Kind of based on the circumstances, like, so the last training camp, because we did, like, three training camps with Valentina Shevchenko back-to-back for her, like, do things that really aren't, like, what I've, you know...
00:40:47.000So five weeks out is when you really get crazy.
00:40:50.000Now, having already faced Ioana and having defeated her so soundly in the first fight, I don't want to ever say that there's a possibility that you could underestimate her, because obviously she's a very dangerous and threatening woman, but how do you keep it fresh?
00:41:06.000How do you approach this with the same sort of intensity and anxiety that you had in the first fight that ramped up Like your performance.
00:41:15.000I mean, that was a big part of how turned on you were and how tuned in you were.
00:41:47.000Anything can happen at any moment, and anybody can be dangerous.
00:41:50.000And then at the end of the day, you know, whatever's meant to be is meant to be, you know?
00:41:53.000Like, I remember one time, like, in the middle of the training camp, I had, like, you know, I like my little yogi tees where they, like, say, like, a little, you know, saying on it.
00:42:00.000And it was something like, if it belongs to you, it'll come to you, or something like that.
00:44:12.000I don't really believe in all these like strength and conditioning cultures.
00:44:15.000I think whatever you believe in is what, you know, works for you and that it works, right?
00:44:20.000But for me, that's something that I don't really, I feel like a hamster in a wheel if I'm going into like some guy telling me to do these exercises and What is an Earthship?
00:48:41.000I like DC. That's why I feel like strength and conditioning, I think that was the best Like shoveling stuff, like picking up heavy buckets and tires and things like that.
00:48:54.000It made me feel like I was actually doing something rather than just like a hamster on a wheel.
00:48:59.000Just like, okay, I'm working out and I'm getting in better shape, but I feel like I could be actually doing something productive here and getting muscles too.
00:49:06.000So to answer the question, we don't really do...
00:49:07.000The strength and conditioning that we do isn't like...
00:49:10.000It's not weightlifting and all sorts of things.
00:49:13.000I mean, sometimes, you know, if we feel like it, but, you know.
00:49:56.000And if you watch people's shadow box, even professionals, they suck.
00:50:01.000You know, they just don't deal with no emotion, no, like, visualizing, like, somebody in front of you.
00:50:05.000Like, if you ever watch, like, my old jiu-jitsu coach back in Minnesota, Greg Nelson, if you ever watch him, Shadowbox, he's, like, fighting people and killing people.
00:50:52.000They think, okay, stand there, throw some punches, throw some kicks, stretch my tricep twice, and then throw two more punches and move my head once.
00:51:02.000They're not visualizing someone in front of you throwing punches and kicks at you and fighting back, and they're not visualizing someone reacting to the punches that you're throwing and firing back and moving around.
00:51:13.000And when it comes to shadowboxing, that's what we really, a strength and conditioning.
00:51:19.000Shadowbox, 40-pound weight vest on, walk around all day.
00:52:11.000I even have a pack that I wear that has a bolt on it for Olympic plates.
00:52:17.000It's called an Atlas Weight Trainer by a company called Outdoorsman's.
00:52:21.000And they make it specifically so that people can train for hunting scenarios where you...
00:52:26.000You know, you have these heavy packs on so you could put 90 pounds on your back with these plates and it clamps down just like a regular barbell has a whole locking mechanism on.
00:52:34.000But it's a real good backpack where it like sits on your hips and connects in and it's perfectly like tuned into your, you know, padded right for your shoulders and everything.
00:52:45.000I mean, like I said, I'm not trying to be against strength and conditioning, but it's just whatever makes you happy.
00:52:50.000I don't feel happy doing strength and conditioning.
00:53:15.000And like, there's this, what were you watching that one weightlifting documentary where he's like, if you can't do a deadlift, you know, there's no point in living.
00:53:24.000And it was like, yes, I mean, deadlifts are the shit, you know, and squats and just like the basic, you know, like powerlifting positions or like movements.
00:53:33.000But overall, I just like to like one training camp when I fought Paige.
00:53:37.000I literally for a conditioning condition or for a conditioning exercise, I would chase my dog for like five, five minute rounds because she's the fastest thing ever.
00:54:17.000You know, like, what the hell am I doing if I'm not having a good time doing what I love to do, like, just for money?
00:54:23.000Like, no, I want to make sure that I'm enjoying myself during these training camps and making sure that if I didn't have this fight, would I still be doing this kind of thing?
00:54:32.000Well, I've always said that to someone that has asked, like, how do I get in shape?
00:54:35.000I said, well, if you take martial arts, the beautiful thing about it is you're getting in shape, but you're having fun.
00:56:01.000We wondered why is this going on, but then if he grabs your arm, it's pretty hard to stop.
00:56:08.000He's actually the reason why my Kimura got so good is because we were literally like shrimp up and down the mat, shadowing, like shadow boxing, shadow grappling, like Kimuras, just over and over again.
00:57:13.000Greg Nelson is a very martial artist, very strict, and Tony's very Very creative and just does different movements and things that you haven't seen before.
00:57:24.000I'd like you both to speak to that because it's very important to me too.
00:57:27.000The coaches that you get, the martial arts instructors that you get, the people that you run into, they're so critical.
00:57:33.000It's so important and they should be praised.
00:57:36.000If you see a guy like Matt Hume who could create a Mighty Mouse, those people...
00:58:37.000There's some places where you go, there's some gyms that you go to, and the training at the gym consists of who shows up to practice that day, and it's just like, alright everybody, we're working on single legs, and just go, and just fight.
00:58:50.000You get better based on who showed up, like all your teammates that showed up, and then there's the coaches where they're very one-on-one-ish, like the Matt Hume-created Demetrius Johnson, like Trevor Whitman is...
00:59:03.000Is good enough to take an individual and make them an individual versus, alright, everyone in the room, we're all going to throw this one jab and that's it.
00:59:10.000He's very, very specific and he can find what you're good at and help you become an individual, like I say, in the gym.
00:59:19.000Yeah, and maybe his style is perfectly matched for you, but it might not be perfectly matched for somebody else.
00:59:27.000And it's such an interesting relationship between trainers and fighters.
00:59:31.000And what really bums me out is how sometimes fighters forget.
01:00:25.000I mean, like, once I finally, you know, once I finally went through kind of just my different learning lessons, like, after I fought Carolina, I didn't have him in my corner.
01:00:35.000And, like, after, like, I realized that that was, you know, the missing link.
01:00:50.000I mean, you ever notice how, like, kids never get tired or, like, they can just run around in circles for forever, and it's because they're having fun doing it.
01:00:58.000And so that's where the training is based, is, like, whatever makes you happy.
01:01:02.000Now, when you look at your future and you say, I'm the champ now, do you have a roadmap that you have?
01:01:35.000I mean, I could, you know, by the time that comes around, like, time flies, like, I could be three years old and be like, fuck that, I'm getting some more fights.
01:01:49.000I don't want to freak you out, but you're a very unique person, and you're at this very strange time in history where I don't want to freak you out, but I think the sport needs someone like you.
01:02:04.000I really think you're a very unique individual, and I think that perspective can help a lot of people to recognize that there's a broad spectrum of people out there that are doing this, and that your genuine Your genuine behavior and thought process and how in-depth your thought process is.
01:02:25.000I think it's very important right now.
01:02:27.000I think it is important, especially for women too, you know, because we have a tendency to be pretty catty and bitchy towards each other, and I think that if I can show an example to other women to be more loving to each other, and not just, you know, woman to woman, but to each other, man or woman, I think it's important.
01:02:47.000And also the way you shave your head, you're wearing sweatpants, you don't give a fuck.
01:03:10.000In the world in general for the last few years has been kind of things have been kind of like people are wearing more sunglasses at night The fighters are getting more ridiculous.
01:03:19.000It's just yeah, and I feel like as if Not that we've hit a seriously low point, but things have gotten pretty whack.
01:03:27.000And I have the feeling that after that performance, like after what she did and what she said, that that was like a spark of the beginning of things coming back up.
01:03:38.000Like just things being a little bit more, not so...
01:04:06.000I mean, it seemed to me, this is just my take on it.
01:04:12.000The UFC missed out with Amanda Nunes they when they were marketing Ronda Rousey for that fight first of all I was looking at those like this is all Ronda Rousey and she is facing in my opinion the worst possible matchup Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt who hits like a fucking truck and a real tested warrior and But they didn't promote her.
01:06:17.000Because you could be talking to some fucking normal morning show dummy, and they don't give a shit about the sport, and they're going to ask you stupid questions.
01:06:37.000It's just like, everything is just, and we're like, okay, let's get out of here.
01:06:40.000Like, As soon as the fight happened, we all stood up, we shook hands, and we said, everybody be cool, we just gotta get the fuck, we just gotta get home.
01:06:52.000I like that you just get the fuck out of Dodge.
01:06:54.000So, in our entire relationship, Pat has had to learn this over time, that if I get the instinct to, we need to bust out, you have to listen to me.
01:07:36.000This was one of the first times we had gone out to a nightclub in five years.
01:07:39.000We've been saying, we need to go out for three years, and eventually Valentina won her fight in Denver, so we're like, we're going out tonight.
01:07:48.000And we went out, and it was fun, and we danced, and for years we haven't done anything like this.
01:07:52.000We danced, and it was great, and everybody had a great time, and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, 12.31, Rose says, Yo, let's get the fuck out of here.
01:08:12.000Like, to get in the van, and we walked through the club, down the stairs, past this really big guy that was by the front door arguing with the security guy.
01:09:12.000And then got in the car and they just casually drove off right while we're sitting in the van.
01:09:15.000Yeah, so it's like instances like that where I'm just like, yeah.
01:09:19.000Like I will call it like instantly like...
01:09:22.000So you just think you have very good intuition?
01:09:24.000Yeah, because I've just seen stuff like that.
01:09:26.000I just can feel the energy of a room change.
01:09:31.000When I was a kid and we were just playing basketball, and it's weird how nobody else would pick up on it except for myself.
01:09:41.000In those situations, like, I was playing basketball with my friends, and then, like, down the street, I thought I heard something in the distance that, like, you know, just people talking, or some, like, people making noises, but I didn't, you know, there's always noise.
01:09:53.000We're in the middle of the city, you know, but for some reason, my attention was brought to this noise, like, something's wrong.
01:09:58.000So I look, and I'm like, man, I think I see some people wrestling over there or something, and then, You know, my friends were like, oh, no, they're probably cool.
01:10:16.000And he turns towards me, and then I'm like...
01:10:19.000And then I realized that my little dude that I would help raise as a kid, because he was young as well as myself, his name was Matthew, and then I saw him follow me over here, and so I thought I was the only one.
01:10:32.000So I was like, oh shit, Matthew, go home.
01:11:02.000That's why I always believed in the fact that if you're delayed or you're late for something, it's for a reason.
01:11:07.000So that's why the week of the fight, I was getting nervous because it was like, we're going to get there late and things are starting to go wrong already.
01:11:17.000And then once we landed, I kind of put the pieces together.
01:11:20.000Like, oh, yeah, that's why everything happens for a reason.
01:11:23.000So do you always feel like you're kind of tuned in to something that other people aren't tuned into?
01:11:29.000It depends on where I'm at in my life.
01:11:31.000Sometimes if I'm living the right way, if I'm healthy, if I'm in shape, or if I'm spiritually right.
01:11:39.000You're tuned in that way, that you're not troubled.
01:11:42.000If I'm making the wrong choices, if I'm surrounding myself around evil and stuff.
01:12:54.000And we even, like, as kids, like, you know, people that I used to, like, hang out with in my neighborhood, we would, like, help each other out.
01:13:01.000Like, we would teach each other, like, yeah, don't go down that place or don't hang out over there because somebody got shot over there or, like, you know, like, the same car, like, circles around this block too many times, like, go inside, you know.
01:13:14.000How hard is it to watch each other fight?
01:13:17.000When he was fighting, it was pretty hard for me.
01:13:19.000But then when I was actually there, when he had a kickboxing fight, and I was actually able to be in his corner, I felt a lot better.
01:13:25.000But being away at home, that was difficult for me.
01:13:29.000And also because she knew internally I wasn't ready.
01:14:45.000Was was past all that shitty decision-making that I was making and and was actually prepped for that one But there were other times where whether it be conscious or not Subconsciously there was somewhere inside of I would guess the mind where we both knew that I wasn't I hadn't done I'm supposed to do ten but no one's looking so I only did eight and I just didn't say anything You know I mean like that that type of thing Do you have regret?
01:15:19.000Like every decision that I've made, every life experience that I've had, dad passing away when I was a kid, having to do all these different, like all of the decisions that I've made and all of the trials and tribulations that I've been through have been exactly why I'm sitting here right now with a beautiful woman right next to me who happens to be a world champion talking to Joe Rogan.
01:15:37.000And, you know, I've learned a lot of lessons from his mistakes, you know, and his successes as well, you know, just watching him go through all that.
01:15:48.000It's almost like I've been able to experiment with having a UFC career, but not actually having to, like, do it, you know, like living vicariously through him.
01:15:56.000And then now I can know what I can do different.
01:17:39.000I would like to call myself one of Rose's main training partners.
01:17:43.000And it would be cool if I can get this knee taken care of either this week or next week at the latest so I can have the few weeks off of recovery and still have seven weeks left to...
01:20:44.000And, you know, like you were saying, just setting a better example, trying to change the way people think, or at least just offering a different perspective.
01:20:56.000But this is an active idea that's in your head, like while you're training, while you're doing media, you're thinking, I have a chance to change the world.
01:21:06.000I want to build an urban farm in my community, and I want to make it available for other people.
01:21:12.000Because the way that I grew up, I wish there was an urban farm where I could learn how to grow my own food, and I could get my own food that was not from the grocery store.
01:21:24.000And so I want to provide that for other people.
01:21:26.000And, you know, fighting is the best, the quickest way I can do that, I think, you know.
01:22:07.000It's good for charities, so if you hold some Evergreen coin, you can get some stock I sound kind of stupid trying to recite all this information, but yeah, you can generate money with it and then you can donate it to charity and it works that way.
01:22:25.000So these are just a bunch of different things that you would like to let people know about and help people understand?
01:22:32.000Yeah, and I'm still formulating these ideas, you know, obviously, like, because, I mean, fighting takes up, like, all your time, you know, but I like to think about these things, and I think it just, you know, over time, it's just going to kind of fall into place, you know, just doing things like, you know, the Indonesia Earthship trip and, like, just doing different stuff that I can build skills for later.
01:22:52.000And you're going to do more of this on your YouTube channel?
01:23:27.000Like, after the Michelle Watterson fight, however long ago that was, as soon as that was over, we knew Ioana was next and everything stopped.
01:23:43.000Well, I think it, you know, I don't know, it's the most addictive drug, you know, like just being on your phone and you just fill your head up with just like a whole bunch of information that like, when you're focused on just this one person, like to defeat this person, this one mission, it's hard to, you know, like you only have so much room in your head for that kind of stuff.
01:24:05.000And also because we knew Ioana was checking her Instagram every day.
01:28:04.000What were you going to say that she said?
01:28:06.000Yoana, before the fight, doing the USADA drug test thing, Rose was walking back through the hallway with her official, and she crossed paths with Yoana, all by herself, and Yoana...
01:28:22.000Oh yeah, she like, in a different tone of voice to like the weirdest, like she doesn't seem like herself for a second.
01:28:28.000I mean, I'm sure she's getting in fight mode or whatever.
01:28:30.000And she's like breaking in her clothes.
01:28:32.000And she's like, and I gave her like the what's up, you know?
01:31:35.000I was just like, roses be spooky sometimes, man.
01:31:38.000So there's a chance that, just with the way the whole week went, that maybe that was, let's say, God or a higher being or something like that.
01:31:59.000Now this is after the fact, remastering the system.
01:32:04.000Which, by the way, in the moment, something inside of me, I was like, I don't know what she's talking about, but just gave her the thumbs up.
01:32:10.000Like, yeah, motherfucker, I believe in him.
01:32:13.000I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
01:33:50.000I think over Ioana's career, she came in as the silent killer who was destroying everybody, and then she found out that if I start talking shit to someone, they get fucked in the head before the fight even happens, and then it worked and it worked and it worked, so it got to the point where she's, that, that, that almost...
01:34:06.000That one weapon right there almost replaced some of the ferociousness in her fighting, maybe.
01:35:13.000We very honestly said, that's not going to work out for us.
01:35:17.000We need to prepare for this fight, and we need to be all the way ready.
01:35:21.000Now, of course, there's some interviews that need to be done, but the other little things, like how come you're not posting about it, how come you're not retweeting this picture?
01:35:46.000No pad hitting, no shit talking, no motivational speeches.
01:35:51.000I mean, because really, like, I think you should, like, show other sides of you other than just, like, I get kind of just bored just posting another group picture, another, like, oh, this is what I'm eating today, or, you know?
01:36:14.000Do you post that stuff after the fight?
01:36:16.000Or do you think that any of the stuff that you post, like on workout footage, training footage, especially like working on technique, do you think that in any way that helps people read you?
01:36:27.000I don't know, because it's totally different standing across from me in the ring.
01:36:30.000Like, I could train, I mean, I train with Tisha Torres, you know, like, and we fought each other, we've lived in the same house together, like, for multiple weeks, you know, and I'll still fight her again, you know what I mean?
01:36:39.000So it's like, it's not, it's, you can't, I mean, there's things you could pick up, yeah, but I'm gonna change it up on you.
01:36:45.000I always got another ace in my pocket, you know.
01:36:57.000It's a challenge to keep getting better.
01:37:00.000It's so barely different, but it is still different how you can train together all day and night, but when the bell rings for a fight, it's totally different.
01:37:11.000In the gym and in practice, we've been hearing for years that Clay Guida just gets thrown around at the gym all day and night, but when he gets in the ring, he can fight like a monster.
01:37:20.000They can train together all day and night, but when it comes to fight time, it's just different.
01:37:25.000I'm just confident in my ability that I'm really good at what I do.
01:37:28.000And it makes it more fun to share it with people.
01:37:32.000But I don't want to give all my secrets away.