In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, I sit down with King of Miami to talk about his injuries and how he deals with them. He talks about how he has dealt with them and what he does to stay injury free. He also talks about some of the most painful injuries he has ever had in his career and what has helped him deal with them in the best way possible. I really enjoyed this episode and I hope you do too! -Joe Rogan and I talk about how to deal with injuries in the sport of Mixed Martial Arts. -The Joe Rogans Experience is a series of interviews with professional mixed martial artists from the martial arts and mixed martial arts community where they discuss their injuries, injuries they've dealt with, and how they've managed to come back from them. This episode is a must-listen for any MMA fighter or martial artist looking to get back into the game. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE on iTunes and leave us a review and tell a friend about what you think of the episode! and we'll get a shoutout in next week's episode. Thank you for listening and supporting the show! -Shout out to everyone who helped make this podcast possible! XOXO -JOE ROGAN EXPERIENCES Podcast! -The J.R.P. Experience! - The J.J. Experience Podcast -the J. Rogan Podcast by Night, All Day All Day, by Night - by Night All Day! -By Night, By Night, by Day, By Day, All By Night by Day - All Day by Night by Night! -by Night, all Day! by Night By Day by Day! by Night Podcast, All day by Night - By Night by Day By Night - By Day By Day -All Day, all day! , All Day All Day -By Day, Day, Every Day, Anyday, All Night, Any Day, Morning, Any Given Shave By Day -Day, By Any Given Day, No Matter The Night, No Mentioned, No Regime? -By Any Given Effing Day, - Any Given Given Chance, No Weekend, No Sleep, No Rest, No Lovin' Say So Much, No Fade, No Deal, No Effin' Any Given Thought, No Day, etc., etc., No Felt Like That?
00:01:03.000At one, I couldn't afford it when I was coming up or any of that stuff, so I just never did it.
00:01:07.000So I've always kept my body more or less healthy.
00:01:10.000I've had injuries that are horrible, obviously, in combat sports, but I've always just been able to heal through them.
00:01:16.000One thing I've always believed in for the sport, for anybody listening, wanting to get into the sport and have longevity, is as long as you know that every day you can learn something new from whoever it may be, you'll always be going forward.
00:01:28.000The moment you think you know it all, That's it, bro.
00:01:58.000I shot like a high crotch and the guy's elbow was like resting on his hip and he just like locked out and it went right into my thumb and his thumb went right into my eye and I was throwing up immediately like 10 seconds after I started throwing up and I couldn't I was doing like the Harlem Shake I couldn't control my body I was just shaking and throwing up it was so much pain After that, I had to wear an eye patch for about like five weeks because I had double vision.
00:02:23.000So I would like look at you and see like two, three of you and that would last it for like five weeks.
00:02:28.000So I was supposed to have surgery on it and they scheduled me for surgery.
00:02:31.000I came back in and the doctor was like, hey man, maybe you don't need surgery.
00:02:35.000You did amazing healing, like sweating has gone down a little bit.
00:03:38.000I don't really like surgery, you know, and I've talked to a lot of other athletes that did do, like, the meniscus repair, and then it tore again, and then around for, like, six months, I was like, nah, it's not going to be me.
00:03:49.000So I've always focused on, like, rehab, get whoever's the best rehab person around at that time that I could find for that particular injury, and just get to work, and if after some time...
00:03:59.000I'm not seeing any gains, and maybe I'll try some other stuff.
00:04:02.000And there's so many advances in the medical field.
00:04:05.000Now, like, the stem cell, that's helped me out tremendously with my knees, giving me a full range of motion to be able to, like, squat all the way down.
00:04:10.000I was having trouble, like, breaking parallel.
00:04:12.000Once I'd have a little bit of weight on my back, I'd just feel crazy tension on my knees.
00:04:16.000Since the stem cell, I got, like, a full range of motion back on my knees, you know?
00:04:25.000I went to California, and it was freaking amazing.
00:04:30.000It was right after the Nate Diaz fight.
00:04:32.000Both my hands were jacked, and on one of the blows that I hit Nate with, I hit him in the top of the head, and you can see it on the video.
00:04:59.000When you go to those other countries, whether it's Panama or Colombia, or they do it in Tijuana now, too, it's like they can do shit that you can't do in America.
00:05:14.000It's great for stuff that you don't even know is wrong.
00:05:16.000It's great for just overall longevity and body healing.
00:05:19.000I haven't done them because you know how you saw this with us, but I've heard about the IV stem cells as well that are great for you as well.
00:05:42.000Very strict diet for, like, I had to...
00:05:44.000Once I turned, like, 25, 26, I had to have, like, proper notice, like, nine weeks' notice to get myself in shape, to come in and fight weak at, like, 174, to drop down to 156, and right around, like, 172, 173...
00:05:59.000I was 5% body fat already, so it was just straight water, and it was fucking torturous.
00:06:04.000And then USADA, when I decided to move up, USADA came in the game and outlawed the IVs for us, right?
00:06:09.000So I was like, there's no way I can make 155, and that's when I made my move to 70. But it's been phenomenal for you at 70. I think you're better at 70. I really feel because you're just stronger, healthier.
00:06:20.000I didn't have the pop at 155 after I turned 26, 27, which usually a man loses his strength and power at the end of his career, you know?
00:06:29.000And it was like a month before the fight, I'd be hurting people in sparring.
00:06:33.000As I got nearer to the fight, I didn't have that electricity, that pop-pop!
00:06:38.000So I really started to like, man, fuck, you know, it's something I'm going to have to do, and it was in the back of my mind.
00:06:43.000But I would always work out with 70-pounders and like 45-pounders.
00:06:47.000At American Top Team, we had a lot of standouts at 155, so I would work out with them as well.
00:06:51.000But I was like, we might have to cross paths, so I didn't make it like my main stable to work out with those guys.
00:06:56.000So I knew that there was a strength level difference at me at 170, but I knew I could hurt those guys when I'd touch them, you know, every time.
00:07:03.000So I knew if I could work on my strength gains and get a little size, I'd be alright at 70. Oh, well, look at the Darren Till knockout.
00:07:19.000You know, when you're young, you get away with it, always.
00:07:21.000Your body, you could get run over by a truck and you wake up the next day, but there comes a point where you kind of just lose that, you know?
00:07:27.000And I don't care how young you are, your chin, once you cut over like 12, 13, 14 pounds of water, your chin and legs take a massive He's a massive hit, I feel.
00:07:36.000Yeah, that's why I'm amazed that Pajera, who walks around like 40 pounds heavier than 185, he's fucking huge.
00:07:45.000Yeah, but usually the big boys also could have more water to release, you know, the 205ers, the 85ers, the heavyweights.
00:08:28.000I think wrestling is not that good, so I know I could negate him on the wrestling takedowns and just keep his stand-up.
00:08:35.000And stand-up, he makes a lot of mistakes constantly, I feel.
00:08:39.000Just looking at it from a striker's point of view, I feel he's tailor-made for me to give him a fucking left hook to the jaw and end his night, you know?
00:09:39.000Yeah, it's an exciting time for the welterweight division, too.
00:09:43.000You know, with you having that beef with Leon, and Leon now having retained the title, and they're talking about Colby, but I feel like with a good showing against Gilbert, you skip the line.
00:10:21.000Usman, maybe like there was times where I didn't see him like stepping on the gas like he usually does, you know?
00:10:26.000And it might have been because he just took this fight too early.
00:10:28.000I always think that when a fighter gets knocked out, you really, you know, and I got this from like the old timers in boxing, you need to really let your brain and your confidence like heal and come back, you know?
00:10:38.000Because then you get back in and you get touched and you're like, whoa, I might get knocked out.
00:10:41.000And you pull the brakes and you start like, you know, maybe second guessing yourself.
00:10:45.000So I think maybe he took it a little bit too early.
00:10:47.000You know, I do think that he's in a way better fighter than Leon in a lot of aspects.
00:10:53.000But Leon just has his number, it seems right now.
00:10:55.000Well, Leon was also super confident coming into that fight.
00:10:59.000You know, I feel like once a guy becomes the champion, they gain confidence and they gain ability because they just have this understanding of what they're capable of doing.
00:11:09.000And the fact that it was in England, it was...
00:11:53.000I just want to get back in there and do it to him, you know?
00:11:55.000I've never been knocked out, and I've fought a lot.
00:11:58.000You know, we were talking about earlier, Yves Edwards.
00:12:00.000Like, I've fought great strikers, you know, and they never even came close to knocking me out.
00:12:05.000And it's not that this Usman, but he's not...
00:12:07.000I don't put him in the league of one of these great strikers.
00:12:08.000He's a great fighter because he can do a lot of things well.
00:12:11.000But after fighting him the first time, and getting his best shots, and I cut 20 pounds of water, and I took the fight in six day notice, and I went to Abu Dhabi, I was like, bro, this guy will never hurt me.
00:12:21.000Like, he hits like a bitch, and then all of a sudden, he's the dude that knocks me out.
00:12:26.000So, in that, I think it was nine months since the first fight, that he gained that type of power was just...
00:12:33.000Nuts to me, you know, it was like unreal, unnatural, you know, because I felt his fucking best punches in the first fight for five rounds and never hurt me, never like shook me up good, you know, and then boom, surprise hit in the second fight.
00:12:45.000So do you think it was a matter of you not respecting his power and on top of that him just getting better?
00:12:54.000I always respect anybody who has two hands and two feet so it's not like I'm trying to do the touch me in the chin and I'll give a shot to take a shot.
00:13:02.000Definitely caught me by surprise when he started to load up I kind of saw like the back of his head so I thought for sure he's going to shoot so I start to like drop my hands and I notice like midway oh it's a right hand.
00:13:12.000I try to check hook him but it's too late already that the right hand already Penetrated the force field and took my ass out, you know?
00:13:41.000Nuts to me like bro this guy's the one that fucking literally knocked me out like I was out cold It wasn't like a like you stopped it early nothing I know in my heart of hearts this guy fucking knocked me out and for me to to think Usman's the one that knocked me out I never would have bet it that this guy would knock me out so It uh it affected me bro bad.
00:14:09.000I haven't got the chance, but I'm actually, by coincidence, he's in Florida April 9th, and I'm doing everything in my power to make sure that I'm there.
00:14:19.000Right after my fight, I'm going to go.
00:14:21.000He's going to have a conference down in...
00:15:51.000I feel that for me personally, not just in the sports, but in like my life in general, like finding those things that hold me back in many things, you know, on the personal side that I could bring into the professional.
00:16:02.000And then it's like, it makes all the sense in the world, you know, like let's say I stopped eating Domino's pizza now for like a month or whatever junk food I was like binging on.
00:16:10.000And then I see like results and stuff.
00:16:12.000It's like, man, I just got to change my whole lifestyle.
00:16:14.000Not just before the fight, but year round, you know, and those are the things where I like struggle and I've been working on a lot, you know.
00:16:20.000That's the problem, I think, with really talented guys, is that you can kind of get away without being disciplined.
00:17:05.000And everybody was like laughing about this just yeah, that's what he does Yeah, and you know since young since I want to say like 17 years old I started sleeping like five hours a day just because I Couldn't get more than that I'd lay in bed I could go to sleep at 10 a.m.
00:18:32.000I'm trying to clock in as many hours on a consistent basis leading up.
00:18:36.000But this is not just now for this fight camp.
00:18:37.000I've been trying to implement that for, like, the last two years of my life, you know?
00:18:41.000Well, I think that's something that, you know, it's a part of what makes fighters great, is they have that incredible confidence, and they don't give a fuck, and they think they're different.
00:20:10.000And the guys, obviously, that I bring into sparring are not the guy I'm going to fight, but they're supposed to be, you know, very similar style, something like that.
00:20:16.000So I know if it starts working on them, then I'm like one step away from bringing into mass production and bringing it to the world.
00:20:51.000I feel the best gym in the fucking world.
00:20:53.000We have numerous established killers right now, and we have another world of guys coming up, of young, hungry talent that nobody knows of that are just fucking killers.
00:21:02.000And I've always felt like when I come into the gym and I can't hang with the pack, when I can't, you know, do around with, you know, so-and-so, and then after that go with so-and-so and so-and-so, and I'm getting the worst end of it consistently, I'll call it quits because I don't want to be a stepping stone for nobody.
00:21:48.000So the times that I start to just get the worst at the end of the sessions, it's time for me to hang it up.
00:21:54.000I don't need to go in the ring to find out.
00:21:57.000Once I can't keep up with the pack no more, I know my time has come.
00:22:00.000And it's going to hurt like fuck because this is...
00:22:02.000All I've known, this is my first, my last love, this is my everything.
00:22:05.000But at the same time, I'm not going to do a disservice to my body and let guys beat me that could have never held my jockstrap proudly during my prime, you know, so that'll be when I call it quits.
00:22:14.000Once the gym is telling me like, hey, you know, your time has come.
00:23:20.000I really do because there's something about the veterans They have the mind like that was the thing with Vitor.
00:23:26.000They had this wealth of I mean, I first saw Vitor fight in 1997 I was training the same gym as him because I was at Carlson Gracie's in LA and he was 19 and You know and we all knew like god damn.
00:23:40.000He was a fucking athlete Crazy athlete and he was a speed black belt.
00:23:45.000Yeah, he was in jiu-jitsu was knocking people dead Yeah, no one expected that.
00:23:49.000When they first saw him fight, like Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt under Carlson Gracie, everybody's like, oh, he's going to take guys down and submit them.
00:24:11.000I kind of wish they'd let people do whatever the fuck they want to do.
00:24:15.000Well, other organizations are very lax.
00:24:18.000Or just like make it like even playing field for everybody because it's just like USADA oversees the Americans a lot harder than a lot of these other countries that they can't even get into, you know?
00:24:30.000Oh yeah, they're not traveling to the mountains of Dagestan to give people piss tests.
00:24:33.000You know, so it's just like, man, just make it fair for everybody.
00:24:36.000If I'm getting tested 20 times a year, so-and-so and so-and-so and social should also be getting tested 20 times a year, you know?
00:24:43.000Well, the worst shit is like you hear stuff from like Volkanovski.
00:24:47.000They wake him up at like 6 o'clock in the morning the day before the fight.
00:26:42.000And more so than anything, I think it's consistency, right?
00:26:45.000Like, if you're testing me, I get it, it's random, but if you're testing me 20 times and my opponent got tested four times, what the fuck is that?
00:27:50.000You're about to fucking go to war for five rounds in a cage 24 hours after you're almost dead, which is really what happens to a lot of these guys.
00:27:59.000It's like running a marathon in the desert.
00:28:19.000Then, hey, you can't weigh more than 190 on fight day.
00:28:21.000If not, pay a fine or I don't know what the fuck.
00:28:24.000Well, one FC is trying to do something like that, but I heard that one of their events, like eight fighters missed weight, which is fucking crazy.
00:28:32.000And they have a hydration test as well.
00:32:00.000I remember I used him a lot for my KJ Nunes fight.
00:32:03.000I used him a ton to chop him up because he's a big boxer, so I chopped his leg down with a calf kick, just boom, constantly going through the heat, throw like a left hook, pop!
00:32:29.000The one calf kick hits that nerve stem and it like fucking shoots up to your brain and you're like, well, don't take no more of those, you know?
00:32:37.000It's amazing because to the average person, they don't even know what happened.
00:32:41.000Like, they see a guy get calf kicked, and the guy's still moving, and they feel like nothing happened.
00:32:45.000But meanwhile, that guy who got kicked is like, oh, shit!
00:32:48.000Like, you got a poker face, but that leg is fucked.
00:33:20.000It was more like an MMA thing, and then now, though, I'm seeing it more and more in Thai boxing now, but it wasn't, like, maybe 15 years ago.
00:33:27.000It wasn't, like, a big thing in kickboxing or Muay Thai, you know?
00:33:33.000I guess a lot of the Thai guys, they fight with that light front leg, and they check a lot of kicks, and they're accustomed to it, but I think it's a stance.
00:33:42.000Because you might shoot, and because you might have to sprawl, there's a little bit more weight on that leg.
00:36:29.000And seems like one of the nicest, most playful dudes.
00:36:32.000Like when you see him working out and sparring in the gym, he's a fun dude.
00:36:37.000Playful till that bell rings at the end.
00:36:39.000Yeah, but it's just that, like right there, look at the sweeps, man.
00:36:43.000It's just that style, so different than anybody else's style.
00:36:46.000It's really kind of amazing that none of the young guys are emulating him, because traditionally when you see Thai guys fight, they fight and they look like a Thai fighter.
00:36:56.000He looks like another thing, like another kind of thing, another evolution of it.
00:37:01.000I hope in his next lifetime it's just MMA for him.
00:37:13.000Well, that element is one of the elements that I feel like is missing in MMA is the sweeps.
00:37:18.000Like, there's just very few guys that are that good at sweeps, you know, from the standing position in MMA. Most of the takedowns we see in MMA come off singles and doubles and trips.
00:37:29.000You don't see it like that, like what he does.
00:37:33.000One of the ones that I love is you throw like that high kick, then you'll fake the high kick and completely get behind you, and then you see him flare, guys.
00:37:41.000And those are the things that shut you out because now if you're worried about the sweep, you're going to get kicked.
00:37:46.000Whether it's in your head or your arm, you're going to start getting kicked.
00:37:51.000Yeah, that's one of the beautiful things about watching a great Muay Thai fighter like him, is that for someone who appreciates it, there's so many levels to what he's doing.
00:38:28.000Because to have head movement, I think, in Thai boxing, like to stay in the pocket, do this, and dodge kicks, that's next level shit, and this guy would do it to everybody, man.
00:38:36.000I'm a giant fan of his, but I'm also, if I had one fighter that I'm going to watch tape on, just for pure inspiration, it's Ramon Deckers.
00:38:48.000What a fucking destroyer that guy was.
00:38:51.000That guy smashed his ankle so bad they had to fuse his ankle, and the doctor told him, listen, man, you gotta stop kicking with this thing.
00:38:58.000And he's like, yeah, yeah, tape it up.
00:42:59.000How long has Roy been training for this?
00:43:02.000Well, my good friend, the one that helped, because as we were setting up the card, Dean Tool, which is my matchmaker and helps me set up everything, was like, I think I'd get Roy Jones to fight for us.
00:43:13.000And in my mind, I was like, yeah, I'm sure, bro.
00:44:27.000I love seeing him in the crowd the other night.
00:44:29.000Yeah, Donald, he's a fucking character, man.
00:44:32.000He told a story on this podcast about cave diving.
00:44:35.000It was cave diving with this dude, and the dude panicked, and it filled the cave up with clouds, and he couldn't figure out how to get out, and he was running out of air.
00:44:42.000I knew he was alive, because he's sitting right across from me, but it was one of the most hair-raising stories, because his wife and his child were Outside waiting for him.
00:44:53.000And he's thinking, there's no fucking way I'm dying in here.
00:46:19.000One thing he's always had is speed and power, I think.
00:46:21.000Just genetically born with it, you know?
00:46:23.000It's just how does he bring it over to boxing now?
00:46:26.000Which is, I heard him talking a lot about boxing, but what I like to see MMA guys bring it to boxing is we're not going to jab better than him.
00:46:33.000You're not going to be a boxer better than them ever, but what we can catch them with is that funky MMA shit, like dunk your head and they think you're going to body shine, you bring up a fucking loopy right hand, you know?
00:46:45.000Kind of like Conor Mayweather, those first four rounds.
00:46:47.000I know Mayweather was studying him, but still, he got hit with a lot of things he just didn't see because...
00:48:25.000I think Floyd's ability to shoulder roll and his ability to avoid shots and then land shots when you don't think he can is unparalleled.
00:48:34.000I mean, when he fought Canelo and he was standing right in front of Canelo and Canelo was just whiffing, You know, he's like, oh my, it was a life lesson.
00:48:41.000And then you look at how good Canelo's head movement got after that fight when he realized it.
00:48:47.000I mean, my God, when he fought Danny Jacobs and Canelo's just standing right in front of him.
00:48:52.000That's all what he learned from fighting Floyd.
00:48:56.000And it doesn't look like it, but obviously when Mayweather hits, it cracks.
00:49:01.000Maybe he's not a homerun hitter, but he's definitely a third base hitter, you know, because he hits guys and they're like, whoa, they feel it, and then he gets out the way.
00:49:07.000I think definitely the greatest boxer maybe in my generation, but not the best fighter.
00:49:12.000I would say the best, you know, brawler boxer type fighter, Manny Pacquiao, man.
00:50:09.000Mayweather was, I think, one of the best at doing that, like picking the opponent at the right time, like Shane Mosley, you know, when he got the Shane and stuff like that.
00:50:27.000Well, Shane, I mean, was a great fighter, but, you know, what Floyd brought to the table was that combination of Discipline and technique and intelligence and just constant, steady improvement.
00:51:22.000He's a special fighter and I think he set the bar for a lot of upcoming guys like a lot of these guys like Gervonta who trained with them and all these guys that sets the bar when you got a guy who's that good And then you see how many doors you could break down just by submitting to your craft and forgetting about the world.
00:51:43.000There's a million things I could be doing, but I'm just going to focus on this and everything else will come.
00:51:47.000I think Mayweather is one of the best stories.
00:51:49.000Look at all his accomplishments outside of boxing as well.
00:51:52.000No, look, it's amazing what he's doing with business.
00:52:15.000And his boxing money is different than everybody's boxing money now.
00:52:18.000First of all, because he made so much, but then on top of that, he continues to make money even after he's semi-retired.
00:52:23.000You know, he had it under his promotions.
00:52:25.000I think, I remember, uh, it was like either an interview or something that I read that when him and De La Hoya fought, I think he made a couple, I want to say 17 and something.
00:52:35.000It was like a good purse, but De La Hoya made like a hundred million because it was under his promotion.
00:52:40.000And then right after that, Mayweather only did Mayweather promotions and that's when that came and that's when he started clocking those massive checks, you know?
00:52:46.000Yeah, but he spends a lot too, so he's got to keep that money flowing in.
00:54:23.000So I think, like, when any dude is like, man, I'm done with this, and then three, four years, you pick it up, he might not be the same, especially age-passed by.
00:54:32.000This is a guy that you could tell he never left the gym.
00:54:34.000Maybe he left it when he retired a couple weeks, maybe, but he's, like, always in there.
00:54:38.000You know, you always see him working out, doing something, you know?
00:54:57.000He went to prison, and he's like, this is never happening to me again.
00:55:00.000I'm gonna be a fucking completely different person.
00:55:03.000Ate clean, exercised, slept right, never did anything wrong, took care of his body, and still to this day, he'll post videos of him working out, and he looks fantastic.
00:55:19.000I mean, I remember when he fought Tito Trinidad, and everybody was counting him out, and when he grabbed the Puerto Rican flag and threw it down, and everybody was like, no!
00:56:17.000I remember watching him When he was just a middleweight champion and nobody knew who he was and like there was a lot of people that were complaining about his style, you know, his style was boring because he would clinch guys, but then you realize like he's not getting hit.
00:57:21.000And you just, like, when you're seeing, that's what's really crazy to me.
00:57:24.000Like, if I'm seeing tape and I'm a fighter, I'm like, well, I know he's going to throw his left hook, so I'm going to try to counter with this.
00:57:29.000And the speed and the setup is so out of this world that you don't even see it, you know?
00:58:41.000It looked like he just drained his body to make 75 then Tarver caught him and knocked him out and then Glenn Johnson knocked him out after that and he was just never the same.
01:00:27.000He did fight lighter, you know, when you really think about it.
01:00:31.000I mean, Pettis has fought at welterweight, which is 170, in boxing, 47, but he fought at 170, and Roy was the best ever at 75. So it's, you know, it's interesting.
01:03:52.000So it just makes sense that he'd continue boxing.
01:03:54.000And I've heard him, and I've talked with him too, that he does want to kind of focus more on the striking and just like, you know, maybe not grapple so much and use the things that he's naturally gifted with, which is fucking his power and speed.
01:04:06.000Yeah, I mean he had gotten into wrestling quite a bit and it kind of like changed his game a little bit.
01:04:11.000And then he realized, you know what, he's better but he's just a wild striker and if you take him down he submits you.
01:04:55.000Catches him with the right hand, knocks him out.
01:04:56.000The only guy to knock out Wonderboy in MMA. And then the way that he did it, too.
01:05:00.000That's something, too, why I love this matchup so much, because in Roy, you have, like, one of the flashiest fighters that had substance, not just flash.
01:05:08.000And Pettis also, man, he's one of the best 155ers, I think, and also brought a lot of flash to the sport, but had the substance behind it as well, so...
01:05:25.000I mean, Rafael was one of those guys that cut a shitload of weight to get to 55, and he was so fucking thick and such a good grappler and endurance.
01:08:18.000You know, because the guys, the people that they'll be alright is like me and you, because I could hire a security team and so can you, but how about everybody else that can't?
01:08:46.000There was some, I forget, I think it was California, like, the dude went in for stabbing, then he got out the next day and then robbed up, like, a liquor store and then, like, shot somebody and killed somebody.
01:08:56.000Like, this guy was just in jail 24 hours ago and you fucking let him go, bro.
01:10:30.000He's a goofy, old politician that's been in that big career.
01:10:34.000He's been in that lying business forever.
01:10:37.000And the China money that he's been getting for years, the hooking up his son, the computer, denying the computer when it's like, bro, you could see it, bro.
01:10:46.000Before the FBI declared that this was real, I was already watching videos of him like, bro, how are you going to say this is not real?
01:11:24.000No offense to the people that are going through that in Ukraine.
01:11:27.000Obviously, it sucks to be in war, you know, especially against a massive thing like Russia, but I don't think we should be poking our chest and they're starting possibly a World War III. It's fucking terrifying.
01:11:38.000It's terrifying to me that the left are the ones that are behind this, encouraging it, when the left was always anti-war.
01:11:44.000That's what they say when a war from the other side happens.
01:11:48.000We shouldn't be going to war, but that's the same thing they're going to do because that's when trillions of dollars get made every time we go to war.
01:14:18.000It's scary because I think a lot of these banks, they're, I mean, it's kind of funky.
01:14:24.000It's like if you just take all the money out, they're fucked.
01:14:27.000And if people panic and they take all the money out, and then those banks are fucked, and then it starts to cascade.
01:14:31.000We might have just collapsed the economy right now, me and you, with this conversation.
01:14:34.000Well, if you let too many people know what's going on, it could collapse the economy.
01:14:38.000If you let too many people panic, if someone decided, like some financial expert, not a moron like me, but someone who's a legitimate financial expert- Elon Musk says, get your money out now?
01:14:49.000If Elon Musk got on Twitter and said, get your money out now, you know, invest in gold, invest in Bitcoin, do something else, people would fucking panic.
01:14:58.000I mean, you're fighting at the FTX arena, which is wild.
01:16:29.000These guys are saving some pennies there, huh?
01:16:32.000I mean, they were all on amphetamines and they were all fucking each other in that house.
01:16:36.000Part of me is kind of rooting for them.
01:16:38.000I mean, if they weren't doing fraud, I mean, you got all these nerds that are just, there's nine of them living in a house and they're all just having orgies and fucking each other on speed.
01:16:46.000They're all taking speed and ecstasy and banging each other.
01:17:10.000Yeah, it should be a real, a good one, like an Oliver Stone movie where they really go deep into what was actually going on and just show the grittiness of it.
01:17:18.000And all the people that are killing themselves because they lost all their money and that's what people don't talk about.
01:17:23.000It's like people commit suicide all the time when these things happen.
01:17:26.000You've got a billion dollars locked up in crypto and now all of a sudden you're broke.
01:20:48.000We're all worried about war with Ukraine, the banks are gonna fail, the fucking climate, this, that, the other thing, the fucking border's porous.
01:20:55.000People are pouring in, including terrorists.
01:20:57.000They're catching people on the terrorist watch list every day, sneaking in through Mexico.
01:21:16.000I don't know if she is, but I've read this guy that was examining the way she talks and behaves, and he said that it's a classic for someone who's on anti-anxiety medications.
01:21:24.000I don't know if he's telling the truth.
01:21:26.000I don't know if he's right, but it's like the whole thing freaks me out.
01:21:29.000It freaks me out because, you know, if Biden dies, which is very possible, I mean, he's...
01:24:44.000All my friends that have family that has come from a communist country, I have some friends that came from Eastern Bloc countries, I have friends that came from Venezuela, I have friends that have come from Cuba, like Joey.
01:24:56.000Joey does not want to hear any of that shit.
01:25:41.000I fucking dare you, bro, because you wouldn't make it one day over there, Kaepernick or any of these fucks, advocating for socialism, communism, you know?
01:25:48.000And what I was saying earlier is that look all over the world.
01:25:55.000Colombia, Ukraine, it's gotten bad overnight in what used to be the standard of fighting communism, socialism, is now somewhat semi-adapted in this country.
01:26:07.000Progressive socialism, or what do they call it?
01:26:09.000Yeah, they call it democratic socialism.
01:26:26.000And those people always have castles and fucking billions of dollars and everybody lives in poverty.
01:26:32.000The only thing that's promised you in communism and socialism is equal misery for everybody else except the fucking elite of elite, you know?
01:26:39.000And these people out there might be listening like, oh, I'm a billionaire or a millionaire.
01:26:46.000It's a different fucking power structure for those guys that...
01:26:50.000You know, most of us ain't gonna fucking ever get to come around, you know, and that's just for them, you know, like California, perfect example.
01:26:58.000What happens when you adopt these fucking shit policies, bro, in a great country like ours, bro?
01:27:02.000I think a thousand percent we are the beacon of light for the whole world.
01:27:06.000When we're doing good, the whole world is fucking doing good.
01:27:09.000When we're fighting against that shit, that fucking pure evil, the whole world's doing better.
01:27:13.000And look how good we were doing with Trump just like two, three years ago.
01:27:29.000It probably would have been much different, for sure.
01:27:31.000And, you know, if we could get sensible policies and a sensible, like someone who's fiscally conservative to take over these states and put them back on track, it would be better for everybody.
01:27:54.000But it's so hard for people to wrap their head around that because they think that socialism is like a more equitable, fair way to live life.
01:29:06.000But I've been all over the world, just as I'm sure you've traveled the world 20 times over me, and I truly feel in my heart, this is the greatest country.
01:29:14.000I'm a son of two immigrant species that didn't have shit.
01:30:12.000One thing I like to do is obviously shock my body, but I also like to get long training sessions in.
01:30:19.000I remember Bernard Hopkins would talk about it a lot, where he would just do the basics for a very, very long time and just doing it.
01:30:25.000And it's very boring and monotonous just for me to just throw one jab, one jab, one jab constantly, things like that.
01:30:32.000But I feel that it just re-sparks maybe things that I should be sharpening up.
01:30:37.000And it becomes cardio at some point, you know, as I'm doing it for so long, it becomes cardio and it becomes specific cardio to what I'm doing.
01:30:44.000So a lot of my sessions, I'll have like a two to three hour session first thing in the morning when I'm nice and strong and I have the fucking full gas tank.
01:30:51.000Then I'll take my little break and then I'll have like another session at night.
01:31:06.000Then I came back in the midday, had like a good technique session where I'm just focused on positions that I'm not efficient and just doing them over and over and over.
01:31:54.000I'll spend numerous time with Mike Brown or Paulina Hernandez, whoever is leading the practice, and they know that I'm also very ADD and dumb.
01:32:02.000I can't learn more than one to two moves a day, or even the setup.
01:32:05.000They just teach me two, three things, and I'm just going to drill that for an hour, hour and a half, and I'll be done.
01:32:10.000Are you monitoring your heart rate to make sure you're not overtraining?
01:32:25.000I was like, these Chinese motherfuckers are monitoring my sleep, my everything.
01:32:29.000And I was like, nah, bro, I can't do this shit no more.
01:32:32.000And then, you know, a lot of times I'm just like, mind don't matter.
01:32:36.000Like, I wake up feeling like a little, oh, I don't feel great, this and that.
01:32:39.000And then the whoop tells me, hey, or whatever technology.
01:32:42.000I'm not trying to diss on whoop or nothing.
01:32:44.000Or whatever technology I was using, like, hey, you know, today should be like a half day.
01:32:48.000But in the back of my mind, I'm like, should it be?
01:32:51.000Because I feel like if I really, like, start to warm up and start to dig and I got somebody in front of me that's mean and trying to come after me, bro, I'm going to find it.
01:32:59.000And then I'm fighting just in case I wake up not feeling the best hookies of fuck.
01:34:14.000I'm like, bro, I don't think I could do a half a mile.
01:34:18.000And just putting on my socks, going through that mentally, and then I put on my shoes, and the next step I'm out the door, then before I know it, I did these five miles, and those things led me to believe we're always gonna have breaks, sensors put on us, like, oh, that's it, can't go no more.
01:34:32.000But when you really want something, when you're really like, fuck it, I'll just pass out on the street, and I don't give a fuck, but I'm gonna get this done, shit happens, bro.
01:35:27.000Sliced and wedged and then screwed in place.
01:35:30.000So it was flat fucking so it's still bone on bone But at least now it's flat so he doesn't like put all the weight on one side of his knee But if you see like his knee like show the picture of the injury It's so fucking crazy that you you can't imagine that this guy would do this and I mean she really needs knee replacements and And he probably will have to get them some day, but...
01:36:49.000And that kind of mental strength, that dude, he's like a dispensary for mental strength.
01:36:55.000You hear him talk, and all of a sudden you find a new gear.
01:36:58.000And then you watch him do it, which is even more, you know, I love the motivational speakers, but there's nothing more motivation to me than coach just said, hey, we're going to run five hard miles, and he's fucking running it there, and he's ahead of us.
01:37:09.000I'm like, man, how the What the fuck's this old motherfuckin' in front of me?
01:38:42.000And he's put a great program together.
01:38:44.000Back then, though, it was some wild stuff.
01:38:46.000I wish you could have came in the American Top Team back then when it was like sparring was just like a fight.
01:38:51.000Because we had adopted something where, you know, we knew that in boxing, you just spar hard.
01:38:55.000You know, you don't always spar in boxing, but once that camp is up eight weeks out, they're fucking, those guys are throwing heaters to see where they're at, you know?
01:39:03.000So, ATT used to be like that, and it was like...
01:39:06.000Constant amount of bodies everywhere now.
01:40:16.000I don't know where he's at in his prime, but when he was at the top in Bellator, I always wanted him over at the UFC. Especially against the better strikers.
01:40:25.000The wrestlers, they kind of had his number there, but against strikers, he would have got my money.
01:40:37.000That was when I was like, Man, I want to see what happens when Askren gets into the UFC. Because Askren, in that time, when he was the Bellator champion, they just let him go.
01:42:50.000On Twitter, I saw that he was very witty and always constantly writing shit like that.
01:42:55.000I'm like, you know, he's a dork and a nerd, but he's got a little bit of wit behind the computer screen.
01:43:00.000When I saw him face to face every time and it was straight, my cue versus yours, improvisation versus your improvisation, or maybe you've been thinking about some stupid shit for like a month and you're going to say it to me now, but he froze up every single time.
01:43:12.000These were like a lot of encounters we had off camera.
01:43:15.000Like, I remember I saw him and I was like, ducked off in a corner and he was walking by this.
01:43:20.000So I'm like, well, I'm just gonna spring up on this dude and scare the living shit out of him.
01:43:22.000So I did pop up on him, hands behind my back, literally short circuit.
01:43:26.000Hey, hey, hey, master, I heard you're a very tough guy.
01:43:34.000Why are you such a corny motherfucker?
01:43:35.000And I'm just, you know, trying to probe at him.
01:43:37.000And I noticed every single time that it was unscripted, unimprovised like that, just spur of the moment, short circuit.
01:43:46.000Couldn't fucking, you know, keep it together.
01:43:48.000So I was like, I not only need to run at him, but I need to have like a change of speed because that's going to make him go into his natural crotch sniffing instincts.
01:43:57.000If I just change the speed on him, he's going to fucking duck.
01:44:00.000So that's why I came out slow, cut the little angle and let him like, oh, okay, you know, we're going to circle it up.
01:44:04.000As soon as I change speed, what does he do?
01:44:06.000Go to his fucking initial instincts as a fucking crotch sniffer.
01:45:35.000I mean you literally practice the exact same thing over and over and over again.
01:45:38.000It's so it's so wild to see like it's like when Connor knocked out Jose Aldo you ever see that shit where he was practicing that he was like mimicking Aldo and then he's practicing like just launching that left hand when he moves in yeah and then And the same thing, got him out of character, got him fucked up and flustered, got him angry.
01:45:57.000Nobody had disrespected Aldo before that.
01:46:11.000His career was certainly better than Conor's, but the thing about Conor is in that first round particularly, he's so explosive and so quick.
01:49:39.000Those were his workouts back then, literally.
01:49:42.000He'd do like 50 of those, then take a break, and then he'd do another 50 of those, and that was his weightlifting.
01:49:47.000It's extraordinary because, you know, the guy, I mean, because he didn't want to gas out, rarely used his wrestling, and he's one of the best wrestlers ever.
01:49:56.000I mean, he was an extraordinary wrestler, but his flying knee knockout of Chris Weidman is also one of the greatest of all time.
01:50:15.000He's like, hey, man, I want to learn the flying knee.
01:50:17.000You know, so we showed it to him, like, not lying, two weeks and like five days before his fight, and we showed him a quick little setup for it, you know?
01:50:25.000You go forward, you go back, you go forward, and you go back, and when he goes back, if he comes forward, you jump with it.
01:50:31.000And fucking his first UFC fight does it.
01:50:33.000He literally, I saw it with my own eyes, he learned this technique two fucking weeks before.
01:50:38.000That's when I knew, bro, this, not only is, because there's guys that are athletic.
01:52:31.000If he comes over from Cuba after winning his first world championship, he was at 19 years old, he was the first one that he won, and then he sold matches and did what he had to do to get money.
01:52:39.000If he comes in at, like, 19 over here, he's, like, numerous-time champion and at different weights, bro.
01:52:56.000No, super nice guy, but when anything related with competition, you're talking about a pissing contest or a spitting contest, he's trying to fucking outdo you.
01:53:04.000Well, think about where he came up from.
01:53:06.000I mean, what made him is that Cuban program.
01:55:46.000Because you can dictate where the fight goes.
01:55:48.000If you stay up on your feet or if you take it down.
01:55:51.000And it's just like, I was always fascinated by striking, so I grew up with the striking, but once I realized it doesn't matter how good, fast, or hard I punch, if I can't keep it on my feet, this means nothing.
01:56:02.000I can't knock you out from being on guard or being mounted, you know?
01:56:06.000So I really focused the last, I don't know, 14 years of my career in heavy grappling and mainly defensive.
01:56:14.000When I tell you that 70% of my mat time is just spent on wrestling, whether it be offense or defense, And then the other stuff is striking because it just comes so naturally to me.
01:57:17.000Your snap, your electricity, everything slows down just a bit, man.
01:57:21.000Are those the most frustrating losses for you, like the first fight with Kamaru or the Colby Covington fight, these wrestling-heavy fights?
01:57:29.000Definitely, you know, and it's something that, like, 170 has always been, like, dominant.
01:57:34.000Like, I feel in other divisions maybe I could have had an easier path to the title because it was, like, more striking-oriented, things like that.
01:57:41.000At 170, it's always been since like the Matt Hughes range, GSP, it's always been like grappler, wrestler, dance, you know?
01:59:41.000There's a lot of bad juju I gotta get out of my life.
01:59:43.000So I did, you know, in all types of shapes and aspects.
01:59:45.000I've cut out a lot of negativity and things that maybe weren't negative, but were leading to negativity, like gateways to negativity, things that I didn't need in my life.
01:59:53.000So I just fucking, I feel that for the 20 years I've been in this fucking sport, I'm in probably one of the best places right now mentally.
02:00:02.000And eight months ago, I mean, you can see pictures online.
02:00:21.000It was just because that was the first time that it happened to you?
02:00:24.000Because of the knockout and like numerous things in my life and the way that it was too, you know, because leading up to the first Usman fight, me and the UFC can't come to terms and agreement, right?
02:00:35.000So the fight, six weeks out, gets cut out like, nah, we're not going to make it happen.
02:00:40.000You know, I wanted more money on my pay-per-view, not on my guarantee, but I'm like, man, if I'm going to sell XYZ pay-per-views, fuck, bro, I want to get paid, you know?
02:00:48.000And the fight gets cut off and then six days later they bring it to my face and now I'm not in shape.
02:01:03.000Maybe I should have taken a fucking slightly less pay cut and gone after the thing that I've always wanted the most, the fucking belt.
02:01:10.000But I also wanted to get my my value and and in that I also got like a great deal with the UFC taking the fight in six day notice I was able to secure some great things for me and my family so it wasn't like a total loss but it was already like bro did I do the wrong thing and then for the second fight um me and Usman were supposed to coach Ultimate Fighter uh and it was supposed to be like somewhere in September October they were supposed to fight So the UFC's telling me, yeah, we're going to fight in September, October.
02:01:37.000So I tell them, hey, I'm going to go do stem cells down in Colombia.
02:02:12.000And it didn't work out for me, man, you know?
02:02:14.000So that sent me, like, into a fucking, like, bro, I shouldn't have took that fight.
02:02:17.000I told myself after the first fight, I won't fight this guy again without ten weeks to prepare for him because that's what I need to prepare for this guy.
02:02:22.000So I just went into like a fucking dark place and for a while and sometimes when you're in dark places addiction happens and fucking bad shit and now just more bad shit breathes bad shit and I'm hanging around in a circle and maybe I shouldn't be and it's just getting like worse and I always thank God man cause Fuck, I saw the light.
02:03:52.000I would imagine he would want to be there.
02:03:53.000Yeah, I heard in one of the interviews that he was coming to Miami, so I'm going to make sure I do my job and perform and fight and forget about all the other stuff.
02:04:00.000I'm just going to go out there and take care of Gilbert and then let the chips fall where they may, you know?
02:07:18.000I mean, the thing about it is it's kind of genius in the fact that it really did get people paying attention to him.
02:07:23.000In a negative way, but you know, I feel that he could have just been beating people, put more time into the craft rather than Twitter and trying to copy other heels.
02:08:29.000What if the UFC comes to you and says, you versus Colby, winner for the title?
02:08:34.000Do you think that's a possible scenario?
02:08:35.000That's definitely a possible scenario.
02:08:37.000And I would love that because I'd stop him from his dream of fighting for that title.
02:08:42.000If you could somehow or another shock the world in a way with this Gilbert fight, where it's just undeniable, where people just get so fired up about it, And then he starts jabbing because he thinks that somehow or another you're going to take that title shot from him.
02:08:59.000That would be the scenario that I could see.
02:09:01.000Then I would take the title shot from him, you know?
02:09:06.000And since the start of it, I said this from a technical aspect, like I find nothing but wrestler after wrestler after wrestler after wrestler.
02:09:13.000So it's like, I said it numerous times in interviews, I want to fight guys that are a little bit more favorable for my style while I work on my wrestling.
02:09:20.000It's not that I'm putting wrestling to the back burner, but while I'm learning techniques, I'm flying in different coaches across the country just to come wrestle with me, work from the basics, work from zero All the way up.
02:09:30.000And that's what I've been doing the last six months.
02:10:09.000If you've got the heart and determination, the grit to just keep coming after, I can fix these mistakes.
02:10:14.000That's all I've been doing these last six to eight months.
02:10:17.000And when I get in there with Gil, he's going to fucking feel it right away, bro.
02:10:21.000You're not getting a takedown on me no matter what happens, brother.
02:10:25.000The thing about the Kobe fight was Kobe is a very good wrestler.
02:10:28.000And he has a good gas tank, and he's a fucking leech.
02:10:31.000You know, that collegiate style, one thing that they could, you know, you could see from any of those guys is they could fucking dig down deep and get, like, a takedown when they're tired.
02:10:39.000They're good at putting themselves at bad spots and scoring.
02:10:42.000And also, not to, like, fucking make excuses, but I also do think that the rules are favored heavily towards, like, a grappler wrestling type.
02:10:50.000Because if you're on your knees sniffing crotches, I should be able to fucking knee you in the face.
02:10:53.000Like, what is this bullshit that I can't...
02:11:54.000And don't be in that position then, because it's the way the fight's going to get stopped.
02:11:58.000How many times do you see a guy that's been wrestling, could be in that position, dead tired out of his mind, shoots a horrible shot, gets on his knees and stays there for like 20 seconds, catches his breath, and then gets back up and finishes.
02:12:10.000He's more skilled, he's more efficient there, yes, but it's not realistic.
02:12:13.000Like you said, in a real fight, you'd get your fucking eye orbital crushed in, you know?
02:12:59.000It would just change a lot of outcomes of fights if that gets instituted.
02:13:03.000Overnight, we'd see a swing in wrestling, holding dominance in MMA a lot.
02:13:08.000It would even out the playing field a lot in overnight.
02:13:11.000I don't even know if we should stop hitting people in the back of the head.
02:13:14.000That doesn't make any sense to me because there's a lot of knockouts, like high kicks, they wrap around the back of the shoulder and they go right to the back of your head and it's legal.
02:14:35.000Like, you better protect the back of your neck because it's very, very vulnerable.
02:14:39.000So guys would have to, when they lie on the back or lie on their stomach, they have to protect their fucking head.
02:14:45.000And then they would have to try to roll.
02:14:47.000They would have to do something to get out of that position.
02:14:49.000Instead of just realizing that you can kind of hold there and cover the sides of your faces because you could leave the back of your head exposed.
02:14:56.000I mean, I'm sure if you talk to a neuroscientist, they say that's a particularly vulnerable area.
02:15:49.000When I was fighting Gilbert Melendez, I was doing something like that, like some tie tips to the leg, and the referee called my attention on the second one.
02:16:06.000Yeah, and I was like, yeah, okay, that's fucking weird.
02:16:08.000Yeah, it is fucking weird, because, you know, I talked to Eddie Bravo about that, and Eddie's like, well, why, you know, if that's illegal, then why is a heel hook legal?
02:16:18.000Because if you get a guy like Paul Harris, like, who's tomorrow Paul Harris, who would just rip your fucking shit apart and not let go?
02:16:25.000Yeah, he's like, fucking dog on the board.
02:17:29.000Not just to plug in my promotion for bare knuckle fighting, but I love bare knuckle fighting because the grappling also feels like a little bit more realistic with no glove.
02:17:36.000You know, like for some mission guys, it's a little bit more like they got that grip.
02:17:40.000They take the back, the rear naked is like a little bit easier to hold.
02:18:18.000Because this, in power, not even that, you know, like, the cuts and all that, in just sheer power, the elbow's closer to your body, which is generating the power, so you know the elbow's gonna be strong.
02:18:27.000The knee's closer to your body, so you know it's generating more power than the punch, you know?
02:18:31.000That's why in Thai boxing, they have boxing is, like, the least ranking for the points, you know?
02:18:37.000You kick somebody in the arm, it's almost more meaningful to them than getting punched in the face, you know?
02:18:42.000Because the kick is a fucking kick, man.
02:18:44.000It's a baseball bat to your fucking arm.
02:18:46.000Oh, especially the way those guys throw them.
02:21:30.000He's one of the dudes I used to look at, because I would always, like, gravitate, obviously, to whoever was a champion near my weight class, but, like, great strikers, I just fucking would fucking...
02:21:40.000Soak it up, just like, what is this guy doing?
02:21:42.000How did he land that kick over and over?
02:21:44.000What little setups is he doing, you know?
02:21:46.000So I'd always digest a lot of these fucking great strikers, especially if they came from a great striking background and then translated into MMA, just to like, what are they doing to be able to fucking stay afloat with these grapplers or wrestlers, you know?
02:23:49.000I just don't understand why it didn't become more popular.
02:23:52.000And the only thing that makes sense to me was it wasn't promoted correctly.
02:23:55.000But if you got a big promotion like the UFC's promotion machine behind world-class kickboxing, I think it could be as big as MMA. I think it could be as big as pro boxing.
02:24:23.000You watch a dude get kicked in the face, you know exactly what happened.
02:24:28.000Yeah, I mean and you see these guys and you see how 1FC is doing it I think 1FC is doing it in an amazing way.
02:24:36.000They have guys like Nicky Holtzkin and Urso and oh my god Nicky's another guy that's been in there forever since.
02:24:45.000He fought bull cow when he was like 19. Oh, he's a fucking murderer.
02:24:49.000In the K-1 back then bro, he was fighting the world's best and now you look at him he's still fighting the world's best and Dogging him at times.
02:25:39.000You don't hear about that in kickboxing.
02:25:40.000You know, maybe Glory paying out one particular individual hundreds of thousands of dollars, but you don't hear about million dollar paychecks ever for Thai boxing, for kickboxing, ever.
02:25:49.000Look, I mean, it hit the glory days in K-1 in Japan.
02:26:52.000And the fights were fucking incredible.
02:26:55.000To this day, if you go back and watch, like, Mr. Perfect, when Ernesto was in his prime, and he would throw that left hook to the body and that right low kick, my God.
02:28:35.000I mean, the fact that the UFC is involved in the slap fighting thing, which is like, I guess, easy to promote because it's easy to watch, but is it any more easy than kickboxing?
02:28:44.000And kickboxing makes more sense to me.
02:29:45.000That just shows you, everybody can have their favorite of all time.
02:29:48.000I think on a technical level, Mighty Mouse.
02:29:52.000Might be hands down the best fighter I've ever seen.
02:29:55.000I think on a tactical level, you're correct.
02:29:56.000I think on an accomplishment level, it's Jon Jones.
02:30:00.000Because I think Jon Jones fought tougher guys.
02:30:03.000I think Mighty Mouse was running through everybody, but other than Cejudo and Benavidez and a couple other guys, they weren't really on his level.
02:30:12.000But also the way he beat, Mighty Mouse beat guys like Armbar and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt world champions.
02:31:41.00035 has been this chaotic, very hyped-up weight class, but other than Brandon Moreno, he gets so much love from the Mexicans, obviously, and then Davidson Figueredo, who they fought four fucking times.
02:31:56.000Other than those fights, there's not a lot of hype at that featherweight division.
02:32:01.000Well, for us, because we were like hardcore, maybe like Sahuda versus Mighty Mouse.
02:32:14.000So it was like, those were maybe the, that I could think of like the more evenly matched, contested, great fights at 125. I'm very interested to see what happens when Cejudo comes back and fights Aljamain.
02:36:25.000You know, I talked to Mighty Mouse about him and Mighty Mouse did some training down there and he said he's never met a dude who's more meticulous about his training and what he's trying to accomplish and how he has all his goals aligned.
02:37:19.000I remember, you know, I watch all the fighters, like the Latin fighters, I actually like to watch him cheer him on, you know?
02:37:25.000And like, I remember him coming in, like the wrestling wasn't there, submissions quite weren't there, you know, this and that.
02:37:31.000To see the last four years of transformation that he's fucking done.
02:37:35.000And, um, shout out to his company, Upper Management.
02:37:38.000I know a lot of those guys well, so I know how he trains.
02:37:42.000He goes to elevation of like 12,000 fucking feet in this Mexican like Aztec temple where they used to do like ceremonies, sacrifice, all this crazy shit.
02:39:19.000That's a bad motherfucker right there.
02:39:20.000When he fucked Calvin Cater and he's like talking shit the whole time, he's like, I'm the best boxer in the UFC. He's like talking to the guys and people throwing punches at him.
02:40:05.000And, you know, when you watch his fight with Yair, I re-watched that a couple of months ago, and I was just, like, Yair is the most dynamic kicker in the sport.
02:47:34.000Well, they tried that with pride, but pride fucked them.
02:47:37.000Remember when they had Vandelay come over and Chuck, and then Chuck went over to Pride and fought in Pride when he was a star in the UFC, and he got beat in Pride, but then they wouldn't let anybody come over here, and then the UFC had to buy Pride, and then it turns out they weren't even buying Pride, they were just buying a digital library, and the fucking...
02:48:34.000Fedor just had like an uncanny ability to take you off your feet.
02:48:37.000Whether it was like a sambo throw or like a fucking right hand and then he'd like cross body like lock you and fucking dump you in your head and then the meanest ground and pound that we've seen, bro.
02:52:04.000Also, we got Pro Gonzalez is from Chicago, not too far away, competing on the card as well.
02:52:08.000It's going to be a fucking hell of a fucking fight.
02:52:12.000And you can buy the digital rights to it on UFC Fight Pass, which is only the second time in history the UFC has collaborated with somebody else to fucking, to do something like that.
02:52:22.000So I'm fucking extremely honored, man, that we're getting to do this.
02:52:25.000And then, of course, you can watch it on Pay-Per-View anywhere, Comcast, digital, you know.
02:52:29.000Jeremy Stevens, Jose Aldo, Jacare Souza, Vitor Belfort.
02:52:46.000I love that you always speak up for this country and you're a fucking patriot because guys like you got so much more to lose than fucking everybody else.
02:52:53.000And people don't understand, it takes real fucking courage for you to sit there and say these things and express it to the fucking millions around the world of what's happening here.
02:53:02.000So for that, brother, I am always fucking thankful to you.