The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #139 with Bas Rutten

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00:00:13.000 Mr. Rutten, good to see you, sir.

00:00:15.000 Been a while.

00:00:16.000 It's been a while.

00:00:17.000 Yeah.

00:00:17.000 Yeah, it was exciting running into you out here.

00:00:19.000 Yeah.

00:00:20.000 You're a Texas resident.

00:00:21.000 Texas.

00:00:22.000 I got a hat and everything.

00:00:23.000 I need a belt buckle.

00:00:24.000 Did you get a hat?

00:00:24.000 Oh, yeah.

00:00:25.000 I got the boots, and I rode a longhorn.

00:00:29.000 What was it in this little village here somewhere?

00:00:33.000 Banderos. 0.73

00:00:34.000 Like a big, big freaking Longhorn. 0.63

00:00:36.000 You got on one of those things?

00:00:37.000 Oh, I got one.

00:00:37.000 Yeah, I rode one.

00:00:38.000 Did they let you ride them or did they try to buck you off?

00:00:40.000 No, he said this guy is hanging out with kids, like six years old.

00:00:44.000 He's very, very calm.

00:00:47.000 Those Longhorns are wild, huh?

00:00:49.000 Dude, it's crazy if you see it.

00:00:51.000 Giant.

00:00:52.000 Yeah, everybody, the whole street will stop.

00:00:54.000 When did you come out here?

00:00:57.000 July 4th, the 4th of July last year.

00:01:00.000 Fireworks and everything.

00:01:01.000 I was in the top building.

00:01:02.000 We had an apartment for a year, so it must give us time a year to find a home, which we did, so we're probably going to move in next week.

00:01:10.000 But the top building, it was the park, Landa Park in New Braunfels, where they have the fireworks.

00:01:16.000 It was nice.

00:01:17.000 They welcomed me on the 4th of July with the fireworks.

00:01:21.000 That's nice.

00:01:22.000 You finally get fed up with California, huh?

00:01:25.000 Yeah, doesn't everybody?

00:01:26.000 It's crazy.

00:01:28.000 I would have never imagined five years ago that there'd be this mass exodus and that most of my friends would live out here now.

00:01:36.000 It's crazy.

00:01:37.000 But also Ventura County, where I'm from, it's like Orange County, still the laws are a little bit easier, right?

00:01:42.000 Then LA, LA. But you know, once it starts getting there, My wife already said for six years, here we gotta go.

00:01:49.000 This is gonna go wrong.

00:01:51.000 Yeah.

00:01:52.000 Well, I was always wanting to get out, but I was so connected to the comedy store that I always felt like, God, I can't leave that place behind. 0.99

00:02:01.000 But then when the pandemic hit, it's like, well, I guess we're not even doing comedy anymore, so fuck it. 0.99

00:02:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:02:07.000 Do it here.

00:02:08.000 And now you got one.

00:02:09.000 Yeah, now I got one. 0.70

00:02:10.000 Crazy.

00:02:10.000 Yeah.

00:02:11.000 Life has been crazy for you.

00:02:12.000 The whole thing is crazy.

00:02:14.000 Yeah.

00:02:14.000 So are you settling in out here?

00:02:16.000 Are you enjoying it?

00:02:17.000 We're loving it.

00:02:18.000 You know, the people, every single person who comes to visit, you know, is a little bit preserved, you know, with the Texas mentality.

00:02:28.000 But when they come off the plane is the first thing they say.

00:02:30.000 Until now, like eight out of eight.

00:02:33.000 People are so nice here.

00:02:34.000 It's the first thing they say.

00:02:35.000 Yeah.

00:02:36.000 So I think that we love...

00:02:38.000 We have a daughter, the middle daughter that I have.

00:02:41.000 She still is in California.

00:02:43.000 And she didn't really like Texas, but now she's been here.

00:02:46.000 And her fiancé, they were here last week.

00:02:48.000 And I see it with him as well.

00:02:50.000 He goes, it's really nice here.

00:02:52.000 Yeah, it's different, and it's also less people.

00:02:56.000 The less people thing is gigantic. 0.63

00:02:58.000 I don't think you can underestimate that enough.

00:03:00.000 Yeah.

00:03:01.000 Because I think, or overestimate that enough, because, overstate that enough.

00:03:04.000 I think that people get too used to too many people, and then they view people as a nuisance.

00:03:11.000 And out here that hasn't happened.

00:03:12.000 Out here when people just, they're friendly.

00:03:15.000 They're just friendly to people.

00:03:16.000 It's nice.

00:03:17.000 They're different as well.

00:03:18.000 Yeah.

00:03:20.000 Well, they're armed.

00:03:22.000 That'll help, right?

00:03:24.000 That helps a lot.

00:03:25.000 It's like on a plane, everybody should get a little baseball bat, you know, when they walk in.

00:03:30.000 I'm going to hijack the plane!

00:03:31.000 Or a taser.

00:03:33.000 Or a taser?

00:03:34.000 Yeah, just tell me.

00:03:34.000 Yeah, but a taser with me and at the time when I was...

00:03:37.000 Okay, so a friend of mine, Holbeck Allen, you know from Mindhunter, that actor, he gave me a taser.

00:03:43.000 So, at my birthday, I open it up, I grab the taser, I put a battery in, I'm looking up, and not a single person is in the room.

00:03:54.000 Everybody ran out.

00:03:55.000 You see?

00:03:56.000 Because they think you're going to try it on.

00:03:58.000 Oh, 100%.

00:03:58.000 Any person I see, I'm going to try it.

00:04:00.000 So I would do that on the plane as well.

00:04:04.000 It was immediately.

00:04:06.000 It was the funniest thing ever.

00:04:07.000 I go, where is everybody?

00:04:08.000 Did you tase anybody yet?

00:04:10.000 No, no.

00:04:10.000 No one?

00:04:11.000 Not even yourself?

00:04:13.000 No.

00:04:13.000 I really want to try it.

00:04:15.000 I would just jab my thigh one time just to see what's up.

00:04:18.000 Oh, that I did.

00:04:18.000 I did it even on my head.

00:04:20.000 Yeah, no, that I did.

00:04:21.000 But I want to see if because they show it's impossible.

00:04:25.000 And I might be fooling myself.

00:04:27.000 I think I can pull them out.

00:04:28.000 But, you know, I would love to try it.

00:04:30.000 Some people can take it.

00:04:32.000 I've watched videos.

00:04:33.000 There's some people that are on certain drugs.

00:04:35.000 They just pull those things right out of their body.

00:04:38.000 I saw one where the cops had to shoot the guy because they tased him and the guy kept coming at him.

00:04:43.000 And then finally he's like, okay. 0.97

00:04:46.000 You're going to die now. 0.99

00:04:47.000 Bang, bang. 1.00

00:04:48.000 Yeah.

00:04:49.000 It was crazy, though, because some people just stiffen up.

00:04:52.000 And they fall down. 0.99

00:04:53.000 And this guy just fucking... 0.99

00:04:54.000 I think I can't mind over matter, but then again, it's... 0.99

00:04:58.000 I don't even know if it's mind over matter.

00:05:01.000 I don't know.

00:05:01.000 Maybe it was a weak taser.

00:05:02.000 Because that's one of the things that a friend of mine told me, and it's actually in a book, it's in one of the Grey Men books, that those tasers are like, especially the personal ones that people have, they vastly overestimate the stopping power of those things.

00:05:17.000 Because girls think, I'm gonna get you with this taser. 1.00

00:05:20.000 Don't get the wrong person, because they might fuck you up even with that. 0.98

00:05:23.000 Yeah. 0.80

00:05:24.000 It doesn't just debilitate people.

00:05:26.000 No, if you have a taser you can use 20 times, that's not a good thing.

00:05:29.000 I'd rather have a taser that you can use only once.

00:05:31.000 Right, like a bomb.

00:05:33.000 Because the battery is drained afterwards, so you know this thing is going to work.

00:05:37.000 Yeah, because batteries go dead on flashlights, right?

00:05:39.000 I'm sure they go dead on tasers, too.

00:05:42.000 People are running around with all this confidence.

00:05:44.000 Sure, that's how you create freaking heat, right?

00:05:47.000 Yeah.

00:05:47.000 Yeah, there's nothing substitutes a 9mm.

00:05:50.000 If you want personal protection, you want a small, like a SIG P365. The Hellcats are very nice.

00:05:58.000 I got the Shield Smith& Wesson.

00:06:00.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:00.000 The Shield, they're very nice, but they only hold like eight, one in the barrel, you know, and that's the extended mag.

00:06:04.000 Oh, you're out here now.

00:06:05.000 I got to get you a Staccato.

00:06:08.000 Staccato has a CS. It's a very small micro 9mm with, I think it has 15 in the magazine and one in the chamber.

00:06:16.000 And it's so small, it just fits right in your hand.

00:06:19.000 I was doing this, I interviewed a guy, I had this thing on Planet Boss, it's called, it's on Muscle of Fitness.

00:06:27.000 So I interviewed a guy at the shooting range here, McQueen's Gun Club.

00:06:31.000 And it's amazing, you walk in with the stilettos, how do you call those knives that jump out of the front and back?

00:06:36.000 Yeah, stilettos.

00:06:38.000 They're completely legal here.

00:06:39.000 Yeah.

00:06:40.000 I go, you can sell them.

00:06:41.000 I go, yeah, this is Texas, buddy.

00:06:42.000 I go, oh man, I'm loving it.

00:06:43.000 Everything is legal here.

00:06:44.000 Everything is legal, yeah, yeah.

00:06:45.000 Literally everything.

00:06:46.000 You can have concealed carry is just your constitutional right.

00:06:50.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:51.000 Don't have to get anything.

00:06:52.000 Amazing how friendly everyone is because of that.

00:06:54.000 I'm not advocating for that.

00:06:55.000 I'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing.

00:06:57.000 I'm just saying it's a thing.

00:06:59.000 Listen, when other people have it...

00:07:02.000 People are less likely to get crazy.

00:07:04.000 Yeah, also, but if bad people have it, I want to live in a gun-free society, yeah, as long as they have them, I have them.

00:07:10.000 Yeah, although there was a very sad story out here where a guy, someone was trying to break into his yard or something like that, or someone climbed his fence, and he went out in his own, I guess someone called the police or he called the police, and he went out into his own yard with an AR. And when the cops saw him, the cops shot him.

00:07:30.000 Oh, gee.

00:07:31.000 Yeah.

00:07:32.000 In his own fucking backyard. 1.00

00:07:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:07:34.000 Very sad. 1.00

00:07:35.000 Yep.

00:07:36.000 Well, that's a lesson.

00:07:38.000 Don't walk around with an AR in the middle of the night. 1.00

00:07:40.000 Well, when you see the cops, put that motherfucker down. 1.00

00:07:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:07:43.000 Yeah.

00:07:43.000 I don't know what the circumstances were, obviously.

00:07:46.000 Yeah.

00:07:47.000 Sad for the family.

00:07:49.000 Yeah.

00:07:49.000 That's the first thing I think about.

00:07:50.000 Yes.

00:07:51.000 Always.

00:07:54.000 So, how is karate combat, man?

00:07:56.000 I love it.

00:07:57.000 I've been watching a lot.

00:08:00.000 I saw James Vick fought in karate combat.

00:08:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:02.000 And a lot of Glory guys fight in karate combat now.

00:08:07.000 James just wanted to invite me for hog hunting.

00:08:09.000 I go, I'm in, dude.

00:08:11.000 I'm in.

00:08:11.000 I would love to do that.

00:08:13.000 I just came back yesterday from Miami.

00:08:16.000 It was a great show.

00:08:18.000 I gotta get out to one of these.

00:08:20.000 You have to.

00:08:20.000 When is the next one?

00:08:21.000 June 24th.

00:08:22.000 Where at?

00:08:23.000 I think Miami, this one.

00:08:25.000 It's Miami or Orlando.

00:08:26.000 Give me an excuse to go back to Miami, because I like Miami.

00:08:28.000 Man, if you would, because they've been asking for such a long time, you know, it's great.

00:08:33.000 Maybe I'll take the missus.

00:08:35.000 You know, if you go June 24th, I'm planning on to take my wife as well.

00:08:40.000 Oh, really?

00:08:41.000 Yeah, I want to take her more on trips now, because, you know, all the time, crazy times are over, you know, and let's enjoy a little bit.

00:08:47.000 Don't you appreciate that now?

00:08:49.000 So much better.

00:08:50.000 Oh, you can just get on a plane, no mask, everybody's happy. 0.97

00:08:53.000 No, but also with my crazy freaking...

00:08:56.000 Okay, 15 years ago, you know, I would come home at 8 o'clock in the morning, completely drunk, and at 9 o'clock I got a flight. 0.54

00:09:03.000 Now I'm walking at the airport at 6 in the morning, I go, I'm feeling great.

00:09:06.000 Sober.

00:09:06.000 You know, sober.

00:09:07.000 Sober boss.

00:09:08.000 How crazy is that?

00:09:09.000 How long have you been sober for?

00:09:10.000 Oh, you know, I do drink here and there like a glass of wine or something, but...

00:09:14.000 Yeah, for a while, I think, for the last five years.

00:09:17.000 Yeah, I'm taking it down to that myself.

00:09:19.000 I enjoy the marijuana, and I enjoy some other stuff that's safe and effective, but I am pretty much done with heavy drinking.

00:09:28.000 I had a friend recently that got off the rails drunk, and it was so sad to watch.

00:09:33.000 He was so debilitated that I was like, I think I might be done.

00:09:36.000 Yeah.

00:09:37.000 It was awful. 0.99

00:09:39.000 When you're sober and you see someone just shit-faced, obliterated, can't form sentences. 0.99

00:09:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:09:47.000 Terrible for you.

00:09:48.000 No, it's horrible.

00:09:49.000 It's horrible.

00:09:50.000 That's why I don't go to the after parties anymore, which they had here with the last karate combat.

00:09:56.000 So, yeah, coming back to that, these are just Wall Street guys who started this thing.

00:10:01.000 Karate combat?

00:10:02.000 Karate combat.

00:10:02.000 They wanted to start a boxing thing.

00:10:04.000 His wife's brother, who doesn't even speak English, said we should start a boxing event or something and maybe we should get these Olympic-level karate cars and do a full contact show.

00:10:14.000 And he goes, oh, let me Google.

00:10:16.000 And they started Googling and they realized there's nothing like it.

00:10:18.000 That's literally how it started.

00:10:20.000 And then it's when they go to the ground, they can punch them on the ground for 10 seconds?

00:10:24.000 Is that what it is?

00:10:25.000 Five seconds?

00:10:26.000 Yeah, George was with me, George and Pierre.

00:10:28.000 He's one of the hosts as well as the Wonder Boy, Leo DiBecita.

00:10:34.000 But he was advocating about three seconds.

00:10:38.000 I go, why?

00:10:39.000 Five seconds is already a short time.

00:10:41.000 I think you need to...

00:10:41.000 He says, but three, then they probably hit harder.

00:10:45.000 Whatever his reasoning is.

00:10:46.000 But, you know...

00:10:48.000 I don't know.

00:10:48.000 But it's a great rule to have.

00:10:50.000 That's first of all.

00:10:51.000 We haven't seen a knockout yet.

00:10:53.000 There's takedowns.

00:10:54.000 You can use the pit.

00:10:54.000 There's 45 degree angle walls.

00:10:56.000 So you can literally walk up there and then drop a guy.

00:10:59.000 Well, you've had knockouts. 1.00

00:11:00.000 Oh, yeah.

00:11:01.000 We had a lot of knockouts. 1.00

00:11:01.000 What do you mean by you haven't seen a knockout yet? 1.00

00:11:03.000 You mean on the ground?

00:11:03.000 Ground and pound.

00:11:04.000 Oh, ground and pound.

00:11:05.000 No ground and pound knockouts yet.

00:11:06.000 Not yet.

00:11:07.000 Interesting.

00:11:07.000 Well, we had Elijah Averill just came in.

00:11:09.000 He's a point karate guy.

00:11:11.000 And he was...

00:11:12.000 I actually have some clips...

00:11:16.000 He's the guy who trained with Raymond Daniels.

00:11:18.000 And everybody was speaking about him.

00:11:20.000 He's going to be great.

00:11:20.000 Dude, yeah, you're wondering what he says.

00:11:22.000 Is this him right now?

00:11:23.000 Okay, so this is the first time.

00:11:25.000 This is a karate guy on the right.

00:11:27.000 Abdullah Ibrahim.

00:11:28.000 And that's Joshua Quahagan.

00:11:30.000 And he thought he's going to...

00:11:31.000 Oh! 0.60

00:11:32.000 You see?

00:11:33.000 Karate guys.

00:11:34.000 Whoa, show that again.

00:11:35.000 Show that again.

00:11:39.000 These guys with their hands down like that.

00:11:41.000 Yep.

00:11:42.000 Oh, left hook.

00:11:42.000 Left hook.

00:11:44.000 Wow.

00:11:47.000 And then there's another clip there.

00:11:51.000 They have a Bitcoin logo in the center?

00:11:53.000 It was at the time, yes.

00:11:54.000 Oh, these are Wall Street guys.

00:11:57.000 This is a long time ago.

00:11:58.000 I love the banked edges, too.

00:12:01.000 I really do like that.

00:12:02.000 I don't like the cage.

00:12:04.000 I feel like it just gets, even in MMA, I feel like it gets in the way of so much.

00:12:11.000 Look at this.

00:12:12.000 Boom! 0.99

00:12:12.000 Oh, beautiful left hook. 0.99

00:12:14.000 Over the shoulder.

00:12:15.000 Didn't even see it coming.

00:12:16.000 You know, and the great thing is if you fall against a wall, you're not considered to be down.

00:12:21.000 So you can't do anything to your opponent.

00:12:23.000 This is down, once you're on the ground ground.

00:12:26.000 But on the wall, you're still okay.

00:12:28.000 There's another clip with Elijah Everill.

00:12:32.000 Here's the guy, the point karate guy.

00:12:34.000 Okay, watch this.

00:12:36.000 Yeah, this is good.

00:12:36.000 You can just hit play right there.

00:12:41.000 Watch what happens when you go slow.

00:12:45.000 You'll see this in slow motion.

00:12:46.000 He wanted to kick him with that...

00:12:48.000 You're gonna see in slow mode the way he...

00:12:52.000 You can't kick once they touch the ground?

00:12:53.000 Yeah.

00:12:54.000 But you can punch.

00:12:55.000 You can still punch.

00:12:56.000 What do you think about that with MMA? Like pride rules versus...

00:13:01.000 Watch it kick in the face now.

00:13:02.000 That's a different thing. 0.89

00:13:03.000 Boom.

00:13:03.000 As he's going down.

00:13:05.000 So he's touching, so he's kind of almost down.

00:13:08.000 Yeah.

00:13:09.000 And this is against the wall.

00:13:10.000 He's allowed to do everything.

00:13:11.000 This is not considered to be down if you're leaning against the wall.

00:13:15.000 Interesting.

00:13:16.000 But you can, you're not down, but you can kick to the body when they're down. 0.92

00:13:21.000 Can you kick to the body? 0.94

00:13:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:13:22.000 Kick to the body. 1.00

00:13:23.000 Stomp? 0.96

00:13:23.000 No, the hat also. 0.96

00:13:24.000 Not kicking the head, of course, yeah.

00:13:26.000 Right, but you can't kick the head when they're down. 0.95

00:13:28.000 What do you think about that?

00:13:29.000 Because, like, old-school pride rules, there's something wild about...

00:13:33.000 And then, obviously, 1FC has sort of followed those style of rules in a cage, which is different, because your head can get trapped in a cage, and you can get stomped, whereas in, you know, old-school pride, it was the ropes, and guys would, you know, get their head out of the ropes, and...

00:13:51.000 I don't know.

00:13:52.000 Those stomps, once you saw Wanderlei Silva going to the other, or Rona against Sakuraba, you know?

00:13:59.000 They're holding the ropes for the balance, and they start sake-kicking somebody's face in.

00:14:05.000 What I do like always is knees to the head on the ground.

00:14:09.000 I'd rather have that than elbows.

00:14:11.000 Elbows are most of the time are cuts.

00:14:13.000 These are knockouts.

00:14:15.000 So, do you really want to lose because of a cut?

00:14:17.000 In a street fight you wouldn't, right?

00:14:19.000 I mean, you wouldn't stop.

00:14:20.000 So, the losing by a cut, it's frowned upon for a fight.

00:14:23.000 It's still a loss.

00:14:24.000 Well, there are some knockouts on the ground with elbows for sure. 1.00

00:14:26.000 More and more now.

00:14:27.000 We see them more.

00:14:28.000 But before, it was 98% cuts.

00:14:33.000 Yeah.

00:14:33.000 Yeah, it's interesting, because the turtle position, when someone shoots in a failed shot and they just hang out there, because a person can't knee them in the head, boy, that's a very vulnerable position.

00:14:47.000 You would never stay there in a street fight.

00:14:50.000 No.

00:14:50.000 Never.

00:14:51.000 But you saw that, what I see with Roger Huerta when he was in the...

00:14:54.000 Yes.

00:14:55.000 That was horrible.

00:14:56.000 That was a bad one.

00:14:59.000 That was a bad one.

00:15:00.000 Horrible.

00:15:01.000 And that was also a guy much bigger than him, too.

00:15:03.000 Like, Roger fought 155 in the UFC, and then he goes over, and in one, he's fighting these very big guys.

00:15:10.000 And he's already messed up.

00:15:11.000 He's falling literally on the ground for his balance.

00:15:15.000 And then he gets soccer kicked.

00:15:17.000 That was scary.

00:15:18.000 Find that, because it was one of the worst KOs.

00:15:21.000 And Roger, man, what an interesting story that is, and kind of a sad story, because he was very, very promising.

00:15:27.000 He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated.

00:15:29.000 But that's the thing.

00:15:29.000 That's the curse, right?

00:15:31.000 They always talk about the Sports Illustrated curse, the cover.

00:15:35.000 Mike Tyson was on the cover of Sports Illustrated, too.

00:15:37.000 Okay, forget about it.

00:15:37.000 Check that.

00:15:39.000 Kid Dynamite.

00:15:40.000 It's in my office at home when he was 19. Oh, okay.

00:15:43.000 Yeah, no, no, no. 0.99

00:15:44.000 That curse don't mean shit. 0.97

00:15:46.000 For him, it doesn't. 0.98

00:15:48.000 Yeah.

00:15:49.000 He's a special guy.

00:15:50.000 Yeah, but the Roger Werther thing, what happened was he ran a foul.

00:15:54.000 Some people were talking to him or I don't know.

00:15:58.000 He just, him and the UFC didn't get along all of a sudden.

00:16:00.000 Yeah.

00:16:01.000 Which is crazy.

00:16:02.000 Yeah.

00:16:02.000 Because the UFC wanted to promote him.

00:16:05.000 He's this good-looking guy.

00:16:06.000 He's talented. 0.99

00:16:07.000 He's tough as shit. 0.99

00:16:08.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:16:09.000 And then winds up losing and then the UFC drops him because there was all sorts of conflict between the two of them and he's like, I'm going to go fight other places and then...

00:16:17.000 He went over there.

00:16:18.000 And we lost him, unfortunately.

00:16:20.000 You have these guys that are on this trajectory that if they, you know, there's...

00:16:25.000 Guys...

00:16:25.000 Limited time.

00:16:26.000 Yeah.

00:16:27.000 What do you have, like, nine years to perform at your very best?

00:16:30.000 Yeah.

00:16:30.000 Yeah, that's what I get, like, guys like...

00:16:32.000 I can really find of him on there.

00:16:34.000 Raymond Daniels is still...

00:16:35.000 I think this...

00:16:36.000 I don't know if this is it.

00:16:38.000 It doesn't seem to be a KO or anything.

00:16:40.000 Oh, no?

00:16:40.000 It's just a crazy fight between them.

00:16:41.000 No, this is not Koji Ando.

00:16:44.000 It was a Brazilian guy.

00:16:46.000 Okay.

00:16:47.000 Okay.

00:16:47.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:16:48.000 Roger.

00:16:50.000 He's taken a lot of punishment.

00:16:51.000 Yeah, you can already see that going.

00:16:55.000 You see the guys who are older guys still performing really well.

00:16:58.000 I think Raymond Daniels right now, who's fighting for karate combat, you know, he's still freaking...

00:17:02.000 And by the way, he fought...

00:17:04.000 Oh, so he's over 40. He fought Rafael Agaev, who's considered the GOAT of karate, right?

00:17:08.000 Five world titles, 11 European titles. 0.93

00:17:10.000 This guy's a freaking master. 0.93

00:17:12.000 Everybody, when you would have to bet, you forced to bet, you put your house on freaking Raymond Daniels. 0.98

00:17:20.000 Agaiev beat him.

00:17:21.000 Really?

00:17:21.000 By decision?

00:17:22.000 Five-run fight, yeah, decision.

00:17:24.000 So his reflex and everybody, and the president, Adam Kovach, he told me before, he says, Agaiev is going to win.

00:17:31.000 And I go, oh man, that's a big, he says he's going to win.

00:17:34.000 And now also after the fight, they say, oh, we have the blueprint.

00:17:37.000 He says, no, because nobody's like Agaiev.

00:17:39.000 His reflexes, I mean, every time you saw Daniels move, he was already in there.

00:17:43.000 But now, you know, in Daniels' mind, because this guy, he's going to download everything that went wrong.

00:17:49.000 And then you see him fight the next fight.

00:17:52.000 He's a scary guy as well, the stuff that he does, right?

00:17:54.000 Daniels is amazing.

00:17:55.000 His ability to incorporate that point-style karate and also into kickboxing.

00:18:02.000 He had a lot of courage.

00:18:03.000 Going into glory, when he fought those guys, he really wasn't accustomed to leg kicks.

00:18:10.000 Joseph Valtellini beat him, and that's how he beat him.

00:18:14.000 Just chop those legs, chop those legs, and eventually head kicked him. 1.00

00:18:18.000 Yeah, but the 720 punch, did you ever see that thing? 0.91

00:18:20.000 Oh my god, it was insane.

00:18:22.000 And then he decided, because actually, George Palmer, my commentating partner in Karate Combat, he asked him about it, he says, Were you first about to throw a kick?

00:18:33.000 And he says, actually, I was.

00:18:34.000 But then once he was in the air, the distance got closed too fast.

00:18:38.000 He knew he had to change it.

00:18:39.000 And then in the air, he was going, oh, did I leave the stove on? 0.91

00:18:42.000 And then he made it into a freaking right hook. 0.98

00:18:45.000 That is one of, oh, here's the right one. 0.92

00:18:47.000 This one's terrible.

00:18:49.000 Boom.

00:18:50.000 Oh, my God.

00:18:51.000 Yeah.

00:18:52.000 Watch this.

00:18:53.000 He's already out.

00:18:54.000 Yeah, he's already out and turtled up, and that guy plants it on the neck.

00:18:59.000 I mean, that is one of the worst KOs ever. 0.99

00:19:01.000 And the amount of power that you can generate from that short a distance, I mean, he was already fucked up. 0.98

00:19:07.000 If you back it up a little bit, Jamie, you can see... 0.98

00:19:09.000 Oh, that's all it is?

00:19:10.000 That's the best I can find. 0.99

00:19:10.000 Yeah, I mean, he was already fucked up. 0.99

00:19:13.000 And again undersized, much much smaller than this guy and then the neck kick. 1.00

00:19:18.000 Yeah, horrible.

00:19:19.000 Yeah, not good.

00:19:21.000 But thankfully we don't have that in karate combatability.

00:19:25.000 She executes those to the body. 0.99

00:19:27.000 Well, George used those to the body.

00:19:29.000 George St-Pierre?

00:19:30.000 Yeah.

00:19:31.000 That's a great technique to the body for a downed opponent.

00:19:34.000 I mean that heel slamming down like that.

00:19:36.000 Can you imagine?

00:19:37.000 Yeah.

00:19:37.000 I remember I was talking to George yesterday about Pointing, right?

00:19:42.000 I like it when you have gloves and you can point.

00:19:44.000 I would fight, fight, fight, point, and low kick.

00:19:46.000 And every time when you do that, you're painting a picture for your opponent, right?

00:19:49.000 So he's attaching you, pointing to the low kick, and actually you throwing a low kick.

00:19:54.000 And then once you get used to that, of course, you break that pair, and you're pointing high, and you're going high.

00:19:59.000 And I said the master who did that was Dwayne Ludwig.

00:20:01.000 It was in a fight.

00:20:03.000 And the guy is on the ground, and Dwayne walks up to him, and he points straight at his head, so the guy puts his guard up, one shot to the solar plexus.

00:20:12.000 Fight was over.

00:20:14.000 You see, stuff like that, I really enjoy when people do it like that.

00:20:17.000 That's Ross Levine, you know, he's the middleweight champion from Karate Combat.

00:20:21.000 He's also with Bang Muay Thai.

00:20:22.000 You see that guy fight?

00:20:26.000 See, I've only watched clips online.

00:20:28.000 I've never watched a full event.

00:20:30.000 Freaking 100% in control, whatever happens.

00:20:36.000 Pull up a video of him.

00:20:38.000 Ross Levine?

00:20:39.000 Ross Levine, Karate Combat 39 is the main event.

00:20:42.000 Just go to the second round because the first...

00:20:44.000 And he's fighting a really freaking tough guy who's from the Olympic team at Karate in his country, Igor de Castaneda.

00:20:52.000 He just makes him look like a zero chance.

00:20:55.000 Here we go.

00:20:56.000 Okay.

00:20:57.000 Ross is in the black.

00:21:02.000 Look at his distance.

00:21:04.000 The whole time.

00:21:08.000 Fainting.

00:21:09.000 So underused in fighting.

00:21:12.000 The way he stalks him.

00:21:15.000 Sees everything.

00:21:16.000 Now why do they have to wear pants? 0.99

00:21:19.000 Is that just because it's karate?

00:21:20.000 That's just for the karate, yeah.

00:21:21.000 Then why don't they wear tops? 1.00

00:21:24.000 You know, you should ask them.

00:21:25.000 It seems like you should be able to wear shorts.

00:21:27.000 It's like anything that would impede the movement of your legs, and I'm not saying that pants do.

00:21:32.000 They don't that much, but it's a little bit.

00:21:34.000 No, but the gi does.

00:21:36.000 You know, we saw this also with Hoyce Grace in Sakuraba, right?

00:21:40.000 He stopped pulling it over.

00:21:41.000 So the gi is always a nightmare.

00:21:42.000 So get rid of the gi, keep the belt. 1.00

00:21:44.000 Long pants are okay as long as they're a little stretchy.

00:21:46.000 Well, it's kind of cool because it shows you that it's karate, but, you know, I would prefer shorts because I feel like shorts, I can move my legs better.

00:21:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:56.000 I mean, not much difference.

00:21:58.000 Obviously, karate tournaments, Taekwondo tournaments, they're all fought with the Gi on. 0.97

00:22:01.000 Even, actually, Sambo, they go with shorts.

00:22:07.000 In some events, at least. 1.00

00:22:10.000 Oh shit. 0.99

00:22:11.000 But you see the control he has. 1.00

00:22:13.000 Everything he has.

00:22:15.000 Everything is caught.

00:22:17.000 And the way it's like the first time he knocked him out, the guy falls back, makes a spinning Ushiro Mawashi Yodan gear to the head.

00:22:23.000 Now this is karate, but it's constant contact.

00:22:27.000 It's constant action.

00:22:29.000 It's not point.

00:22:30.000 So where do these guys come from?

00:22:32.000 Do they come from point backgrounds?

00:22:34.000 Kickboxing backgrounds?

00:22:35.000 Some of these guys came from the point background, and you see the evolution.

00:22:39.000 I mean, in the beginning, they would literally throw one punch, they scream, and they stop while the opponent kept going.

00:22:44.000 They go, oh, shoot.

00:22:45.000 Yeah, I got to keep going.

00:22:46.000 And they make combinations.

00:22:48.000 Oh, you have to go up the ramp to sit in your corner, too.

00:22:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:22:51.000 Yeah, there's enough sissies. 1.00

00:22:54.000 Interesting. 0.97

00:22:57.000 Ross Levine, does he come from a point background?

00:23:00.000 He's a point background karate guy, but he went also to Glory.

00:23:04.000 He went to other organizations.

00:23:05.000 He's just an incredible fighter.

00:23:08.000 And now he's coming full circle back.

00:23:11.000 To karate, and yeah, he became the champion right away.

00:23:14.000 He took the old champion's belt.

00:23:15.000 I mean, it wasn't even a contest.

00:23:17.000 So that guy in that situation, he knew that he couldn't get kicked to the head, so you can kind of sit there.

00:23:23.000 What is he complaining about?

00:23:24.000 I have no clue, but it's not good.

00:23:27.000 Just go to the very end.

00:23:29.000 You'll see him, the way he drops everything.

00:23:32.000 What do you think's behind Castaneda coming forward to just try and tie up here?

00:23:35.000 Well, maybe he thought he was going to move forward.

00:23:38.000 Yeah, like right there.

00:23:39.000 Like, what is that?

00:23:40.000 Why would you stop, right?

00:23:41.000 Yeah, well I think he's kind of already on his way out, right?

00:23:44.000 So look, he just slid down there instead of standing up.

00:23:47.000 Now it's at least a downed opponent.

00:23:48.000 So now he has to wait for five seconds, right?

00:23:50.000 Is that the strategy?

00:23:51.000 Well, you could.

00:23:53.000 But he's just getting beat up, right?

00:23:55.000 Yeah, this is...

00:23:56.000 But look how...

00:23:58.000 Look at this.

00:23:59.000 Oh! 0.60

00:24:00.000 So you can do that. 0.99

00:24:02.000 You can kick to the face there because the guy's not totally down. 0.77

00:24:06.000 He's just leaning against the thing.

00:24:08.000 Anything goes against the wall.

00:24:09.000 Interesting.

00:24:10.000 And what a choice to make for him.

00:24:13.000 And he, the Castaneda, he was complaining about this.

00:24:16.000 He said he wasn't out.

00:24:17.000 So they had a rematch.

00:24:19.000 Oh boy.

00:24:19.000 Yeah, indeed.

00:24:20.000 Oh boy.

00:24:21.000 And then he got annihilated.

00:24:22.000 It's unfortunate that some of these guys who are mentally tough, they're great fighters, but they just have this one place that if you can take them to there, they'll crack.

00:24:32.000 Yeah, they're right.

00:24:33.000 Yes.

00:24:34.000 Like, tough, tough guys, but if you take them there, they fall apart.

00:24:37.000 You go like, okay, with me, it was submissions.

00:24:40.000 And I go, you know what?

00:24:41.000 Maybe I should learn this thing.

00:24:42.000 And I start focusing two or three times a day only on that.

00:24:45.000 Yes.

00:24:46.000 And that's how you get rid of it, right?

00:24:47.000 Yes.

00:24:47.000 You're simply working on it.

00:24:49.000 Yes.

00:24:49.000 But there's a lot of catch-up to do.

00:24:51.000 And there was always an issue in the early days of the UFC where those guys were the elite strikers.

00:24:56.000 They just didn't want to roll.

00:24:58.000 Because when they rolled, they would get dominated.

00:25:00.000 But when they strike with people, they would dominate them. 1.00

00:25:02.000 Yeah, it is stupid. 1.00

00:25:03.000 Yeah, it's just an ego. 1.00

00:25:05.000 Do what you don't like.

00:25:08.000 First of all, you don't like it because you don't understand it.

00:25:11.000 That's what I say to people.

00:25:12.000 But once you understand it, you're going to love it.

00:25:15.000 Like the submissions for me, once I got it, I go like, this is way worse than boxing.

00:25:20.000 We thought the tough guys were boxers than kickboxers.

00:25:23.000 That's not true.

00:25:24.000 You can dislocate break any joint bone in the human body That's a big power to have for any guy can do that who's doing After a blue belt so to say well, it's just I mean boxing has amazing knockouts But it's just when a guy can control you on the ground and dominate you on the ground You don't have the same ability to defend yourself.

00:25:45.000 You don't have the same options There's just so much going on.

00:25:49.000 Yeah, it's like I mean, boxing is great to watch, but did you watch the Lomachenko-Devon Haney fight?

00:25:56.000 I didn't.

00:25:56.000 We were busy.

00:25:57.000 He got robbed.

00:25:58.000 He got robbed.

00:25:59.000 Yeah, I think he got robbed.

00:26:00.000 I mean, the commentators were trying very hard not to say he got robbed.

00:26:04.000 They were dancing around, close rounds, and this and that, but I didn't...

00:26:08.000 I didn't see it at all.

00:26:09.000 I felt like Lomachenko won that decision.

00:26:12.000 I'd like to go back and watch again, like with silence, and just sort of try to, no commentary, just try to like really score each round.

00:26:20.000 But to me, I felt like it was two rounds up for Lomachenko.

00:26:23.000 Yeah.

00:26:24.000 That's bad, you know, for guys like that.

00:26:26.000 Happens all the time in boxing.

00:26:29.000 It happens all, but it happens in the UFC too.

00:26:32.000 Yeah, but boxing, it's worse there, right?

00:26:34.000 It is sometimes, but when Marlon Vera fought Corey Sanhagen, one of the judges gave the fight to Marlon Vera, and it makes zero sense. 0.85

00:26:46.000 I've watched that over and over again, because Corey Sanhagen's performance is fucking phenomenal. 0.96

00:26:53.000 Yeah, yeah, he's an animal. 0.99

00:26:54.000 It's top level. 0.97

00:26:55.000 And Farah is very freaking tough. 0.99

00:26:57.000 Farah is an animal. 1.00

00:26:59.000 He's a fucking animal. 1.00

00:27:00.000 He's so good. 1.00

00:27:00.000 They're the elite of the elite in that division. 1.00

00:27:03.000 Both top five guys. 0.97

00:27:04.000 But Corey just fucking just chopping away at him, doing whatever he wants, man. 0.89

00:27:11.000 It was amazing. 0.97

00:27:12.000 Yeah.

00:27:13.000 Guys like that, man.

00:27:14.000 That's why we have guys like Israel Adesanya.

00:27:17.000 For him to lose and then to come back, you see, I think that's more powerful than Yes.

00:27:22.000 Than any other person out there.

00:27:24.000 You know, you can be undefeated.

00:27:25.000 It's nice, daddy, but, you know, show people you're human and coming back from that.

00:27:29.000 And then it was robo-doping, right?

00:27:31.000 I mean, and my buddy right away sits next to me and goes, he's robo-doping.

00:27:35.000 You know, he's cage-doping, whatever you want to call it, fancy-doping.

00:27:38.000 But he was still looking just for the right moment.

00:27:41.000 Oh, it was amazing.

00:27:42.000 Amazing.

00:27:43.000 Well, he had gotten very close to stopping him in one of the kickboxing fights and then dropped him with seconds to go, like one second to go in the first round of their MMA fight. 0.99

00:27:54.000 So he kind of knew he could get to him, but it's that motherfucker so big. 0.99

00:27:59.000 Dude, he was standing next to me. 0.99

00:28:00.000 He came to Karate Combat.

00:28:02.000 He's like 235 pounds.

00:28:04.000 He's huge.

00:28:05.000 This is crazy.

00:28:06.000 All these guys.

00:28:07.000 I'm next to Jones. 0.97

00:28:09.000 I mean, freaking Tito. 0.85

00:28:11.000 Everybody's giant. 0.98

00:28:13.000 It's crazy.

00:28:14.000 I know.

00:28:14.000 It's all length.

00:28:15.000 Ian Gary.

00:28:17.000 He's so tall.

00:28:18.000 Dude, that's a fun guy to watch, right?

00:28:21.000 Oh my god, undefeated, so confident and so intelligent.

00:28:25.000 And beating Daniel Rodriguez like that in his last fight and being the first guy to stop Rodriguez, that's a big deal.

00:28:32.000 He's got it, man.

00:28:33.000 He's got it, whatever it is.

00:28:34.000 He's got it and he's on his way up.

00:28:36.000 That's the thing, the it thing.

00:28:38.000 What is the it thing, right?

00:28:39.000 Because how many fighters do you see, they constantly go for the belt, go for the belt, but they never really get the belt.

00:28:46.000 It's so weird.

00:28:46.000 You go like, man, he should be a champ.

00:28:48.000 But somehow, he's not.

00:28:50.000 Well, there's guys that are so close.

00:28:53.000 They're so close, and they beat top guys, but they never get whatever it is.

00:28:59.000 Yeah.

00:29:00.000 Michael Johnson, who just got knocked out this past weekend.

00:29:03.000 I mean, he knocked out Dustin Poirier.

00:29:06.000 KO'd him.

00:29:06.000 One left hand.

00:29:07.000 You know, he's the elite of the elite, and just at a certain point, and he's been KO'd real bad.

00:29:13.000 Josh Emmett KO'd him really bad, and then this past weekend gets KO'd really bad again.

00:29:19.000 It's a shame.

00:29:20.000 And everybody's focus is on that.

00:29:22.000 And I go, like, you shouldn't.

00:29:24.000 I remember there was a time that I was 11 fights undefeated, and somebody told me.

00:29:29.000 He says, whoa, man, you're 11-0 right now.

00:29:32.000 You lost 11. I go, oh, crap. 0.99

00:29:34.000 He goes, what? 1.00

00:29:34.000 I wish you wouldn't have said that. 1.00

00:29:37.000 I was afraid it was going to go inside my head, and I want to make it 12, and then you start fighting not to lose, you start not taking risks anymore.

00:29:43.000 Thankfully, I forgot about it.

00:29:48.000 Can you imagine?

00:29:49.000 You're kind of like this very tentative guy.

00:29:50.000 Yeah, it happens to people.

00:29:52.000 A lot of people.

00:29:53.000 They change up their style and they become more technical or more boring or more safe or whatever you want to call it.

00:29:59.000 But they do and they think about it.

00:30:02.000 We did Mike Perry in the audience.

00:30:06.000 Andrei Olofsky was there also for the karate comedy.

00:30:09.000 Mike Perry, that's one of those guys.

00:30:11.000 If you're a promoter, Grab that guy. 1.00

00:30:14.000 Oh my God.

00:30:14.000 Great on the microphone.

00:30:16.000 Great interviews.

00:30:17.000 He's either going to get knocked out or he's going to knock somebody out.

00:30:20.000 He will roll the dice.

00:30:21.000 He's the perfect guy for any organization.

00:30:24.000 Well, what he's doing now in bare-knuckle fighting is amazing.

00:30:28.000 Yeah.

00:30:28.000 Knocking out Luke Perry like that, stopping him, beating up Michael Venn and Page.

00:30:33.000 Who saw that coming?

00:30:35.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:30:35.000 He's just so fucking tough that there's something about the pain that comes with bare knuckle that just suits him. 0.98

00:30:43.000 It's a mental thing. 0.99

00:30:44.000 A hundred percent.

00:30:45.000 I think also, we were talking about, Lewis Rocha actually was talking about, as the lightweight guy from Cardico, but he said, I'm going to win this fight because I fought, I've been in a lot of street fights.

00:30:55.000 I have a different mentality than his opponent Bruno Souza had.

00:30:59.000 He has a nice upbringing.

00:31:00.000 He's a great fighter, but he doesn't have that little meanness in him at the moment when you need it.

00:31:05.000 The controlled aggression like Bruce Lee would talk about.

00:31:09.000 I think that's a big thing as well.

00:31:11.000 It's certainly a big thing.

00:31:12.000 Skill is everything, right?

00:31:15.000 But then the mental aspect of it.

00:31:18.000 Sometimes trumps skill if you could overcome those moments where the opponent is beating you.

00:31:24.000 If you could just find your openings and then put it on them.

00:31:28.000 Some people are great when they're the hammer and not so great when they're the nail.

00:31:32.000 Yeah, I was talking with George as well.

00:31:35.000 Bringing your fans.

00:31:36.000 First time my mom and dad are here watching me fight.

00:31:38.000 I don't know if that's a good thing.

00:31:41.000 Could be really good.

00:31:42.000 Children is what gets me.

00:31:43.000 Oh, the worst.

00:31:45.000 Yeah, children.

00:31:46.000 When you see people bring their children, I'm like, oh, you have so much to think about.

00:31:49.000 There's so much more now that you have to think about.

00:31:52.000 I wouldn't let my kids watch.

00:31:54.000 They could watch the replay, but they can't watch it live.

00:31:56.000 Because what if something goes wrong?

00:31:59.000 My daddy going down there?

00:32:01.000 It's just not a good thing.

00:32:03.000 No, no.

00:32:04.000 And it's also...

00:32:05.000 There's one more variable that you have to keep in your mind while you're competing.

00:32:11.000 I mean, some people can do it great.

00:32:13.000 Some people can fight great with their kids in the audience.

00:32:16.000 More power to them.

00:32:17.000 But for some people...

00:32:20.000 You watch them with the kid in the audience and they lose and they get KO'd.

00:32:23.000 You see the kid crying like, oh my goodness.

00:32:25.000 Why would you subject your children to that?

00:32:28.000 It's so hard.

00:32:29.000 If you've just been training for three years full to become an MMA champion, that is gone.

00:32:35.000 Did you see the Mackenzie Dern fight this weekend?

00:32:38.000 No, I heard.

00:32:39.000 Oh my God.

00:32:39.000 She's unbelievable, right?

00:32:41.000 Oh my God.

00:32:42.000 Oh my god, it was incredible.

00:32:43.000 It was a breakthrough performance. 0.92

00:32:45.000 Like, she's always been elite in the strawweight division, but to do that to Angela Hill, who is, by the way, Angela Hill is so fucking tough. 0.90

00:32:55.000 The beating that she took in this fight never quit. 1.00

00:32:59.000 She came very close to getting arm bars, and she just would not fucking give that arm up, and she's getting hammer-fisted in the face. 1.00

00:33:07.000 Ooh! 0.98

00:33:08.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:33:09.000 Angela Hill is so fucking tough, but Mackenzie Dern, my God! 0.97

00:33:13.000 You never expect it to. 0.98

00:33:15.000 If you see her in an interview, you go like, she's a sweet lady.

00:33:18.000 But her daughter was there for the first time, and her daughter's very young.

00:33:22.000 And her daughter saw her face, her daughter's crying.

00:33:24.000 I mean, she won!

00:33:24.000 She dominated!

00:33:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but...

00:33:26.000 The daughter's like, whoa! 1.00

00:33:28.000 It's hard!

00:33:29.000 It's hard in those little kids.

00:33:31.000 Yeah, don't bring family.

00:33:32.000 My wife, I wouldn't bring.

00:33:34.000 She would throw in the towel if she sees a little tidy cut.

00:33:36.000 She'll throw in the towel. 0.98

00:33:38.000 I brought her to... 0.99

00:33:39.000 Okay, she'll take this out. 0.90

00:33:40.000 So I'm going to Japan.

00:33:40.000 I had to fight twice in one month, right?

00:33:43.000 As I tell her, I said, why don't you come with me?

00:33:45.000 I can stay there.

00:33:45.000 Finally, I got some trading partners in Japan that I can roll around with a little bit.

00:33:50.000 So the first fight goes against Suzuki.

00:33:53.000 Peter Ertz was there because he was just fighting also for the K1 and he came to watch.

00:33:57.000 And I was the first guy to stop Suzuki at the time.

00:34:00.000 But I remember when I kneed him And I hit him and he's ghosted out on the ground.

00:34:04.000 I'm standing in my corner.

00:34:05.000 It's an eight count.

00:34:06.000 And my wife is walking away. 1.00

00:34:09.000 And I go, where is she going?

00:34:11.000 And they go, fight again.

00:34:12.000 And later on I go, what were you doing?

00:34:14.000 He says, I didn't like it because I thought you were going to hurt him a little bit.

00:34:17.000 Because I'm there.

00:34:18.000 You know, you're going to do your extra very best to hurt the guy more.

00:34:21.000 I go, no!

00:34:22.000 I just... 0.92

00:34:23.000 Why the hell would you leave? 0.89

00:34:24.000 I'm standing there, I just see her walking away. 0.98

00:34:27.000 Oh no!

00:34:29.000 She thought you were going to hurt him more because she was there.

00:34:32.000 That's interesting.

00:34:33.000 And then, by the way, this is also funny.

00:34:35.000 We're doing the laundry, she's hanging laundry on the balcony.

00:34:38.000 It is in Japan, in Tokyo.

00:34:40.000 And so she goes, oh my god, somebody jumped out of the building.

00:34:44.000 And I'm laughing, and I think it's a joke.

00:34:46.000 And she goes, no, no, really.

00:34:47.000 So I'm looking, and there's this guy on the floor, like a really bad position.

00:34:51.000 You knew that he committed suicide.

00:34:53.000 He just jumped.

00:34:54.000 And then you see people coming by.

00:34:56.000 They just kick him.

00:34:57.000 They keep walking.

00:34:58.000 And then suddenly there's this little ambulance thing comes.

00:35:02.000 They grab him up, put him away.

00:35:03.000 But it was the wildest thing.

00:35:05.000 So she saw him jump?

00:35:06.000 She saw him falling down.

00:35:08.000 Boom.

00:35:08.000 Yeah.

00:35:10.000 Yeah, that's wild.

00:35:12.000 Yeah.

00:35:13.000 They say that the moment they jump, they know it's a mistake.

00:35:18.000 That one guy who jumped on the bridge in New York.

00:35:21.000 San Francisco.

00:35:22.000 San Francisco.

00:35:23.000 And he survived.

00:35:24.000 Yeah.

00:35:25.000 The freaking, what's it, the flipper brought him back up, right? 0.85

00:35:28.000 Mm-hmm. 0.93

00:35:29.000 Unbelievable.

00:35:29.000 He said, you regret it the moment you step off.

00:35:32.000 Of course.

00:35:33.000 Well, of course. 0.64

00:35:34.000 You know you're going to die.

00:35:35.000 I mean, I had a friend who did that in San Francisco.

00:35:39.000 And he died.

00:35:40.000 He died, yeah.

00:35:41.000 He struggled with depression for a long time, and then someone sent me a message that Tony killed himself.

00:35:49.000 I was like, oh no.

00:35:50.000 And I was like, how did he do it?

00:35:51.000 And they're like, he jumped off the bridge.

00:35:53.000 I was like, oh.

00:35:54.000 Yeah, because that's at least 15 seconds. 0.99

00:35:57.000 Oh, that's a big fucking drop. 0.99

00:36:01.000 And you don't die instantly, I don't think, either. 1.00

00:36:03.000 Maybe you do.

00:36:04.000 I see these commercials on TV where people are depressed.

00:36:07.000 In the early days, I would be...

00:36:10.000 Come on, man.

00:36:11.000 Just think happy thoughts. 1.00

00:36:12.000 That's what I literally, I'm the idiot who thought that. 0.96

00:36:14.000 And then, after my last fight, I had like a two and a half month period of depression. 0.94

00:36:19.000 The most scariest thing I've ever had.

00:36:20.000 Which fight?

00:36:20.000 Which fight was it?

00:36:21.000 It was after 2006, the last fight I made, like after seven years I didn't fight, against Ruben Valerio, the big Indian guy.

00:36:28.000 That fight?

00:36:29.000 You had depression after that fight?

00:36:30.000 After that, I think maybe because it was literally God letting me know, okay, the fight's over now.

00:36:35.000 I was so injured, and I thought I was okay, but I was so injured, I couldn't continue fighting anymore, and I think, I don't know.

00:36:42.000 Were you injured going into the fight?

00:36:44.000 Oh, yeah, everything.

00:36:45.000 Hamstring, my rib was out.

00:36:47.000 It was not good.

00:36:50.000 But thankfully, I got him.

00:36:52.000 But then afterwards, I think that maybe got in my head that this was it.

00:36:56.000 And I was literally on the freeway thinking, you know, what if I drive my car against it?

00:37:00.000 And I go, what?

00:37:02.000 What am I thinking?

00:37:03.000 I go, and then I decided to make a list with all the good things in my life and all the bad things.

00:37:08.000 And then you're going to realize that the bad thing list is two things.

00:37:11.000 Oh, yeah.

00:37:12.000 And the rest is like goes on, the good things.

00:37:15.000 And I started focusing on it.

00:37:16.000 I don't understand.

00:37:17.000 A lot of people, it's harder for them, you know, and they are going to need medication.

00:37:21.000 I tried medication and, you know, like I was freaking out.

00:37:24.000 I literally was thinking if I wouldn't have had a family, I might have done it.

00:37:28.000 It was that crazy.

00:37:30.000 Did you get hit in that fight bad?

00:37:32.000 No.

00:37:33.000 No?

00:37:33.000 So did you get hit at all in training that was bad?

00:37:36.000 Nope.

00:37:37.000 No, I never had an 8-count, not even in fighting.

00:37:41.000 So I've never had...

00:37:42.000 I've been very blessed.

00:37:44.000 Yeah, so do you think it was just psychological?

00:37:47.000 Because that is a thing that happens to guys with CTE. Guys that have had a lot of hits to the head, they start getting very depressed because their serotonin levels are all fucked up, their endocrine system's all fucked up, their pituitary gland gets damaged. 0.84

00:38:01.000 And they say it gets damaged even when you don't even get knocked out. 0.98

00:38:05.000 Just little jabs to the face.

00:38:07.000 Oh, listen, I've been training with Peter O'Heezo.

00:38:10.000 That's a fun guy to spar with.

00:38:12.000 He got me on a body shot one time, and I was looking at the clock, making sure that he could not see that I was looking at the clock.

00:38:18.000 And then I start throwing, on purpose, a lot of crosses.

00:38:23.000 Because somebody who was hurt would never do that, right?

00:38:26.000 So I was trying to convince him, and thankfully he thought I wasn't hurt.

00:38:30.000 And then the bell went, and I go like...

00:38:31.000 I'm so happy you didn't touch me there.

00:38:35.000 Like this.

00:38:36.000 And I would have gone down.

00:38:38.000 The liver is awful.

00:38:39.000 It's the worst.

00:38:39.000 Oh my god.

00:38:41.000 People were saying when Ryan Garcia went down against Tank Davis and people were saying he quit.

00:38:46.000 I'm like, have you ever been hit there before?

00:38:48.000 Oh.

00:38:49.000 Yeah.

00:38:50.000 Everything This is, where does my love for the liver shot come from?

00:38:56.000 Yes!

00:38:57.000 First Thai boxing class, getting dropped by a liver shot.

00:39:00.000 First class?

00:39:01.000 Really?

00:39:01.000 First class of the Thai box, tough boxer, karate, but my hands are here.

00:39:07.000 So as soon as they added punches to the face, you over commit.

00:39:11.000 You go too fast, so you're exposing your body.

00:39:14.000 And I was training with Osman, what's his name?

00:39:17.000 A class A fighter already, pro.

00:39:19.000 And he figured me out really fast.

00:39:21.000 And he dropped me with a liver shot.

00:39:23.000 And I remember asking him, I go, what is this?

00:39:26.000 It's terrible.

00:39:27.000 I went home.

00:39:28.000 I spent three and a half hours in front of the mirror.

00:39:31.000 Three and a half hours. 1.00

00:39:32.000 My wife said, you're insane. 0.98

00:39:34.000 I would drink a little coffee, relax, go back to the mirror. 0.99

00:39:37.000 Only this.

00:39:38.000 Boom.

00:39:39.000 I was not going to drop my hands anymore.

00:39:42.000 And the next day, I went back to the class, and I just cleaned 85% of the gym.

00:39:47.000 And they thought I played a joke on them. 0.85

00:39:49.000 I go, no, I spent three and a half hours in front of the freaking mirror.

00:39:52.000 That was not going to happen again.

00:39:55.000 I was a little obsessive-compulsive there.

00:39:56.000 That's the champion mindset.

00:39:58.000 That's the only way to do it.

00:39:59.000 Yeah, you need that.

00:40:00.000 You can't have a bunch of other options of things you can do.

00:40:03.000 You have to be 100% all-in, fully obsessed.

00:40:08.000 I'm thinking about a funny story when I lived in that building.

00:40:13.000 I used to live across the gym, and I had a Thai boxing match the next day.

00:40:21.000 And my neighbors, there was stairs going up, left are the apartments and right.

00:40:26.000 I was on the right side, they were on the left side.

00:40:28.000 So they have a mirror image apartment, so I know everything.

00:40:30.000 What we have, it's a mirror image there.

00:40:33.000 And they were banging the music really loud.

00:40:35.000 And it was 10 o'clock, and I go, I'll let it go till 11 o'clock, 11.30, okay, I'm gonna go down and ask them.

00:40:42.000 So I asked them really nice, if they could please stop it, because I have to do something tomorrow.

00:40:47.000 I didn't want to mention anything because they could only trigger something.

00:40:50.000 And they said, sure.

00:40:51.000 Close the door, turn the music up.

00:40:53.000 I call the cops.

00:40:55.000 And I tell the cops, I say, listen, this is 86A, my name is Boss Ruth, you can tell them that I called you, so use my name.

00:41:02.000 But please, this has got to stop.

00:41:04.000 Because now it's like midnight, midnight 15, you know, and I need to sleep.

00:41:08.000 So the police comes, but you have also a little balcony.

00:41:12.000 And it's hilarious because the police comes, music is down.

00:41:16.000 I'm standing on the balcony looking at them.

00:41:18.000 They were on one floor behind me.

00:41:19.000 And while the police leaves, they go, they're gone, turn it up!

00:41:24.000 They're screaming inside and they start blasting the music again.

00:41:28.000 I go, okay.

00:41:29.000 So I put on a cap, you know, that I looked a little different, put on a jacket, and I walked down, and a guy opened up.

00:41:37.000 I go, hey, what's up, party time!

00:41:39.000 And he goes, hey, come in, come in.

00:41:41.000 And I walk in, close the door, or right behind the door is where the fuse box are.

00:41:46.000 In Holland, it's different.

00:41:47.000 In Holland, they're like ceramic diffuses.

00:41:50.000 They look like spark plugs.

00:41:51.000 Twist them in.

00:41:52.000 Yeah.

00:41:53.000 And I opened the thing, and I just crushed it.

00:41:57.000 I stomped the whole thing. 0.88

00:41:58.000 I'm holding the side of the door.

00:42:00.000 The whole place goes down.

00:42:02.000 And they came running in the building.

00:42:04.000 I go...

00:42:05.000 I warned you guys, but nobody came close.

00:42:08.000 They saw it in my eyes.

00:42:09.000 So the reason I didn't want to go there in the first place because I couldn't sleep, my adrenaline?

00:42:14.000 Well, I couldn't sleep the whole freaking night because my adrenaline was so rocketing now after that whole experience.

00:42:20.000 Thankfully I beat him.

00:42:24.000 But that was the day before the fight.

00:42:26.000 Oh my God.

00:42:27.000 The day before the fight, yeah.

00:42:28.000 When you had the day before a fight, was there anything specifically you would do to try to relax or try to calm yourself or get ready?

00:42:36.000 No.

00:42:38.000 I always been a big thing and then later on when I started understanding breathing better, you know, like the vagus nerve to stimulate that one, I was doing that.

00:42:48.000 Like I would be...

00:42:49.000 This was...

00:42:51.000 With nerves, I use it with a low tone.

00:42:53.000 I go, hum, and I let my belly vibrate.

00:42:58.000 Now, at the time, I didn't know what I was doing.

00:43:01.000 Short inhales with longer exhales actually stimulating the vagus nerve.

00:43:04.000 You know, and other ways to stimulate the vagus nerve are also by humming and singing, so I connected two of them somehow, but it made me very calm.

00:43:12.000 If I had a headache, I'd do the same thing, but I'd go higher pitch sound because then my skull vibrates.

00:43:19.000 Hum, you see?

00:43:21.000 And that always helps me with headache or if I'm nervous with my body.

00:43:26.000 So yeah, that's what I would do.

00:43:28.000 I would just relax and have fun.

00:43:31.000 Video games, you know, only comedy.

00:43:34.000 Nobody can say anything bad.

00:43:36.000 In the dressing room, we can't have aggression.

00:43:38.000 Everybody needs to go right away. 1.00

00:43:40.000 Get the guy's ass. 0.99

00:43:41.000 I remember my last fight. 0.99

00:43:43.000 My nutrition was there, and he wanted to hype me up, so he says, can I talk to you outside?

00:43:47.000 It was just before, like an hour before the fight.

00:43:50.000 He goes, listen, man, this guy tries to take food away from your family.

00:43:54.000 He goes, stop right there.

00:43:56.000 I don't need to stop.

00:44:00.000 Seriously?

00:44:01.000 No.

00:44:02.000 Because if I get angry, you don't want to get angry.

00:44:05.000 You want to be in control.

00:44:07.000 It's interesting because some people do need that. 0.99

00:44:09.000 Yeah, they need to get slapped in the face. 0.97

00:44:11.000 Oh, far away from that. 0.99

00:44:13.000 My opponent's already going to try that.

00:44:14.000 Why would I do that?

00:44:17.000 Did you see how I say try that?

00:44:19.000 I didn't say do that.

00:44:20.000 Right, of course.

00:44:21.000 Slip that in there.

00:44:23.000 It is interesting, the different psychology.

00:44:25.000 Like, if you're a coach, you kind of need to be a psychologist because you're dealing with all these different people in different ways.

00:44:31.000 Like, some people, they have amazing potential, but they're just not that disciplined.

00:44:36.000 Some people, you've got to keep them out of the gym because they're training too hard.

00:44:39.000 They're going to overtrain.

00:44:39.000 Yep.

00:44:40.000 Yeah, and I always found out that it's the one in the middle.

00:44:44.000 It literally is.

00:44:45.000 I think the guys with too much talent, they don't have the stamina to back it up because they're always schooling everybody in the gym and nobody gives them pressure.

00:44:54.000 But if you have the guys who are not really physically blessed but still become a freaking champ, like Tim Sylvia.

00:45:07.000 Yes.

00:45:08.000 I mean, if you see him walk, his toes are inside a little bit.

00:45:11.000 His motoric skills are not great.

00:45:13.000 Yeah, pigeon-toed. 0.98

00:45:14.000 Freaking world champion!

00:45:16.000 And those guys are way harder to beat than a guy who is...

00:45:19.000 It's easy for them.

00:45:20.000 Because instead of...

00:45:21.000 If I have to work for something two hours and they have to work six hours for the same thing to...

00:45:25.000 To get to that point, they don't want to let that go.

00:45:28.000 Those guys are the worst guys to fight.

00:45:30.000 They're the toughest.

00:45:31.000 So it always comes with something.

00:45:33.000 And that's why I figured out in the middle, I know I have talent, but I'm not like a BJ Penn kind of talent.

00:45:39.000 You know, that is like...

00:45:41.000 Exceptional.

00:45:42.000 Three years black belt and then backing it up by beating the world champion.

00:45:46.000 Three years wins the Mundial, which is insane.

00:45:50.000 Imagine you meet a guy, you're like, what are you doing?

00:45:53.000 Oh, I'm going to go take my first jujitsu class.

00:45:55.000 Oh, good luck with that.

00:45:56.000 Then you meet him three years later.

00:45:57.000 What are you doing?

00:45:58.000 Oh, I just won the world championships.

00:46:00.000 In what?

00:46:01.000 In the black belt division.

00:46:02.000 In what?

00:46:02.000 In jujitsu.

00:46:03.000 What?

00:46:04.000 In what rank?

00:46:05.000 Black belt.

00:46:06.000 What?

00:46:07.000 That's insane.

00:46:08.000 Nobody even gets a black belt in three years. 0.80

00:46:10.000 Freaking prodigy. 1.00

00:46:11.000 I was a brown belt for eight fucking years. 1.00

00:46:15.000 B.J. Penn was a special guy, man. 0.99

00:46:18.000 When people talk about goats, I feel, unfortunately, they leave him out of the equation.

00:46:23.000 But if you look at B.J. in his prime, when he beat Diego Sanchez in his prime, when he was just smashing people, Joe Stevenson, B.J. Penn was a motherfucker.

00:46:37.000 I put that B.J. Penn against any 155-pounder that's ever lived. 1.00

00:46:42.000 Yep.

00:46:42.000 And it's striking.

00:46:44.000 It picked up so fast.

00:46:46.000 Gomi.

00:46:46.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:48.000 Oh, my God.

00:46:49.000 Din Thomas. 0.76

00:46:49.000 Animal. 0.76

00:46:50.000 He knocked down a lot of fucking people. 1.00

00:46:53.000 And his jiu-jitsu was off the charts. 1.00

00:46:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:56.000 Off the charts. 0.99

00:46:57.000 BJ Penn was so fucking talented. 0.73

00:47:00.000 But during that period when he was the GOAT, what happened was he got with Marv Marinovich and he started training insane cardio. 0.97

00:47:09.000 The Marinovich's had him training cardio more than anything else.

00:47:13.000 It was all plyometrics.

00:47:15.000 It was all these facts.

00:47:17.000 They're like, you already know how to fight.

00:47:19.000 The problem is endurance.

00:47:21.000 Let's give you the most insane gas tank, and then you go out there with so much confidence because you never have to worry about keeping your foot off the gas.

00:47:29.000 But what happened?

00:47:30.000 This sounded to me like you were setting up.

00:47:32.000 That's when he won.

00:47:34.000 He always won. 1.00

00:47:35.000 But that's when he became BJ Penn, the motherfucker. 0.99

00:47:40.000 I feel like if you could get time machines together, I would take Khabib when he beat Conor McGregor And face BJ Penn when BJ Penn fought Shawn Shirk. 0.99

00:47:52.000 Or BJ Penn fought Joe Stevenson.

00:47:54.000 Or BJ Penn fought Diego Sanchez.

00:47:56.000 That BJ Penn versus that Khabib. 1.00

00:47:59.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:48:02.000 That fight gives me goosebumps just imagining it. 0.99

00:48:05.000 Freaking elbows.

00:48:06.000 The split he left open with Joe Stevenson's head.

00:48:09.000 There was blood everywhere.

00:48:11.000 I was in a puddle.

00:48:12.000 Plus, when you got him on the ground, like, that ain't no picnic.

00:48:17.000 That's terrifying. 0.97

00:48:18.000 BJ Penn was fucking amazing on the ground. 0.99

00:48:20.000 Everybody says, you know, it feels like he's 250 pounds when you roll with him. 0.99

00:48:24.000 Well, his legs move like arms.

00:48:26.000 He has the most insane flexibility and dexterity.

00:48:31.000 Yeah, this is BJ in his prime.

00:48:32.000 Oh, my God.

00:48:33.000 Boom.

00:48:34.000 Flying knee KO. Look at that. 0.98

00:48:36.000 Dude, BJ Penn, when he was the GOAT, When he was on top, dude, he was fucking unstoppable. 0.92

00:48:41.000 He was so angry, too. 0.85

00:48:43.000 It was the best.

00:48:44.000 Yeah.

00:48:45.000 Are they like letting...

00:48:47.000 What is Mario Yamasaki letting that fight go?

00:48:49.000 Oh, it was the end of the round.

00:48:50.000 That's what it was.

00:48:50.000 Boom.

00:48:51.000 Uppercut.

00:48:52.000 Left hook. 0.75

00:48:53.000 Check the timing on this knee.

00:48:55.000 Step.

00:48:56.000 Boom! 0.99

00:48:56.000 And he's got those Ruka shorts with the black belt on it. 0.99

00:49:00.000 Damn. 1.00

00:49:01.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

00:49:02.000 And Sean Shirk was a fucking pit bull. 1.00

00:49:04.000 Oh my god, Sean Shirk. 1.00

00:49:06.000 He was on top for a long time.

00:49:08.000 Oh my god, and he had incredible fitness.

00:49:11.000 Yeah.

00:49:11.000 I mean, Sean Shirk was so fit.

00:49:13.000 He was like one of the first guys that had like unbelievable strength and conditioning routines.

00:49:18.000 And you know, this is early days of the UFC's popularity, so it's like people missed that.

00:49:24.000 And I feel like Anderson Silva's another one.

00:49:27.000 When Anderson was in his prime, Jesus Christ.

00:49:31.000 When Anderson knocked out Vitor with that front kick to the face.

00:49:33.000 Oh jeez.

00:49:34.000 When Anderson knocked out Okami, when Anderson...

00:49:37.000 Knocked out everybody.

00:49:38.000 Knocked out everybody.

00:49:39.000 Forrest Griffin.

00:49:40.000 The way...

00:49:42.000 Oh my god.

00:49:43.000 That was even...

00:49:44.000 Yeah.

00:49:45.000 Yeah.

00:49:47.000 There's a bunch of those guys that, unfortunately, they get left out of the conversation because people see them when they should have quit.

00:49:55.000 They should have stopped fighting.

00:49:56.000 That's the case with BJ. That's the case with Anderson.

00:49:59.000 People see them when they should have walked away and they just...

00:50:03.000 One more time, or maybe they're getting a big contract.

00:50:07.000 Maybe with the UFC, they fight and they can make half a million dollars, $750,000, a million dollars.

00:50:16.000 We all think about that short little...

00:50:19.000 I'm very blessed because I got a lot of injuries.

00:50:22.000 And that's why I stopped.

00:50:23.000 Because everybody tells me, man, you were smart.

00:50:25.000 You stopped at the peak of your career.

00:50:27.000 I said, that was not me.

00:50:28.000 Because that would have been a knucklehead who kept on fighting.

00:50:31.000 And eventually you are going to lose because you're going to fight guys who have your age.

00:50:35.000 They can't work out five times a week full power.

00:50:38.000 You can't.

00:50:39.000 You have to really make sure that when you do your high outputs, Because otherwise you're not going to make it.

00:50:45.000 So thankfully I got injuries.

00:50:47.000 And that's what kept my...

00:50:49.000 Well you had injuries before you won the heavyweight title.

00:50:53.000 You had a bad neck injury when you fought TK. Oh yeah.

00:50:56.000 When you fought Teosha Kosaka, your neck was so fucked up you could barely roll. 0.99

00:51:00.000 It was really bad, yeah. 0.99

00:51:02.000 It was Daryl Golar, he threw me in my head.

00:51:03.000 I had him in a triangle choke. 0.98

00:51:05.000 That freaking guy, man, he was really good. 0.99

00:51:07.000 So powerful. 0.98

00:51:08.000 Powerful, yeah. 1.00

00:51:09.000 Daryl Golar was a fucking beast. 0.99

00:51:12.000 Slams me on the ground, in the corner, you know, so my neck is completely jacked up, yeah. 0.99

00:51:18.000 And that's the same injury that got aggravated when you did, what was it, Sons of Anarchy?

00:51:25.000 When you were doing that movie?

00:51:26.000 Or the TV show?

00:51:27.000 What was it that you did that wound up where you had to get the neck fused?

00:51:31.000 Oh, that was Lights Out.

00:51:32.000 Lights Out.

00:51:33.000 Yeah, the TV show.

00:51:34.000 There was this moment that the lead actor...

00:51:38.000 I'm going to beat him.

00:51:39.000 And he says, this is not realistic.

00:51:41.000 This is boss.

00:51:41.000 You know, we should come up with something.

00:51:43.000 I do something illegal, whatever.

00:51:46.000 There's other ways.

00:51:47.000 There's no way I can beat this guy.

00:51:48.000 And I said, what about this?

00:51:50.000 I jump on your back.

00:51:50.000 You know, I forget to put the hooks in and I slide off.

00:51:53.000 I spike myself.

00:51:55.000 So this is all on me.

00:51:56.000 Oh my god, it's your idea.

00:51:57.000 Yeah.

00:51:58.000 And then I'm dizzy, you hit me in the throat, whatever, and then, you want to do that?

00:52:02.000 I go, sure.

00:52:03.000 You know, you're invincible at that moment, you know?

00:52:06.000 You think.

00:52:07.000 And I did it twice, and it was just this height that I just dropped, but I remember like two months later looking in the mirror and looking at my wife and going, is my arm getting smaller?

00:52:18.000 This is weird.

00:52:19.000 And I wasn't using it because I had a lot of pain in the shoulder.

00:52:23.000 And then I had to do an autograph session in Boston for the UFC, actually.

00:52:28.000 They flew me out.

00:52:28.000 And I went to the doctor.

00:52:30.000 I said, I've got to put a cortisone shot in there.

00:52:31.000 There's no way I can do this weekend.

00:52:33.000 And they put a cortisone shot in there so I now could use it.

00:52:37.000 Because before I didn't use it because it was hurting.

00:52:39.000 And I couldn't lift my carry-on luggage.

00:52:42.000 Freaked me out.

00:52:42.000 I go like, whoa.

00:52:43.000 So my other hand, I lift, I go, okay.

00:52:46.000 So it's my arm.

00:52:46.000 Something's going on.

00:52:47.000 I thought I lost all power. 0.99

00:52:49.000 And that's when I realized it was my freaking neck. 0.97

00:52:51.000 How is it coming back now? 0.97

00:52:52.000 Is it...

00:52:54.000 Nothing.

00:52:54.000 It's supporting muscles.

00:52:55.000 They're doing it.

00:52:56.000 You know, if I ramp this up, you'll see.

00:52:58.000 You see, it's all gone here.

00:53:00.000 See?

00:53:00.000 Oh, wow.

00:53:01.000 That's crazy.

00:53:03.000 But it was, my whole arm was like this.

00:53:04.000 It was a stick.

00:53:05.000 So I got this biceps is coming very slowly.

00:53:09.000 It's coming down.

00:53:10.000 But literally, I started with two pounds.

00:53:12.000 I couldn't pull the trigger from a gun.

00:53:14.000 Really?

00:53:15.000 Yeah, so going...

00:53:16.000 Listen, I used to do 9-1 on pull-ups.

00:53:19.000 Like people, I would do this in the subway with other fighters.

00:53:22.000 Hey, show the pull-ups again.

00:53:23.000 Not stretched arm, but from here, I could like 9-1 on pull-ups.

00:53:26.000 And going from that, not able to grab the freaking water out of the fridge.

00:53:31.000 That was scary.

00:53:32.000 That was very scary.

00:53:33.000 And then I went from 2-pound curls, and I'm doing 15 now.

00:53:38.000 And they say, oh, that's great!

00:53:39.000 Yeah, over 12 years.

00:53:41.000 So you went from 2-pound curls to 15-pound curls?

00:53:44.000 Yeah, but like I said, it's over 12 years.

00:53:46.000 I got to do 45s, I have them on my left, and then the little ones.

00:53:48.000 I know you went to ways too well, and they gave you some stem cells.

00:53:53.000 Yes.

00:53:53.000 And you've done some stem cells.

00:53:55.000 Where did you go before that?

00:53:56.000 Did you go to Panama?

00:53:57.000 I did Panama before, all the way back.

00:53:59.000 It didn't work anything for my neck injury, because...

00:54:02.000 Apparently there's a nerve blocked, and it can't unblock a nerve.

00:54:06.000 It can only do so much.

00:54:08.000 It's blocked because of the fused discs?

00:54:10.000 I have no clue.

00:54:11.000 Nobody can find out where it actually is located.

00:54:15.000 It's because it's like...

00:54:17.000 It's been such a long time that they simply cannot locate. 1.00

00:54:20.000 They tried everything with electricity and holding, and it's stupid. 0.98

00:54:25.000 Somehow they cannot figure it out. 0.96

00:54:26.000 So I felt really good after Panama, like physically.

00:54:31.000 I dropped my...

00:54:33.000 What is it?

00:54:34.000 Cholesterol levels.

00:54:35.000 It was bizarre.

00:54:36.000 I went from 220 because, coincidentally, I just took like a blood test two weeks before I went to there.

00:54:43.000 And when I came back, did another blood test.

00:54:45.000 It dropped 70 points.

00:54:47.000 Seven zero points in like 10 days.

00:54:49.000 And it was because of the stem cells.

00:54:51.000 It was like 150. I go, what?

00:54:54.000 It was 220. It was really bizarre.

00:54:57.000 And I felt really energized.

00:54:59.000 I remember the person who told me to go there.

00:55:03.000 It was through Mel Gibson.

00:55:05.000 And his sister was talking about, she said, I feel energy coming out of my fingertips.

00:55:10.000 I go, that's a weird thing to say.

00:55:12.000 But then after my third session, because she had four sessions in four days, I called my wife and go, oh, I know exactly what she's talking about.

00:55:20.000 Every morning I would wake up out of my toes and out of my fingers for six months straight.

00:55:26.000 Really weird, but felt really good.

00:55:28.000 Wow.

00:55:29.000 Yeah.

00:55:30.000 I've never done the Panama.

00:55:31.000 I've done Ways Too Well, and I did it in Santa Monica, a few different places I've done stem cells.

00:55:39.000 It's healed injuries.

00:55:41.000 Big time.

00:55:42.000 I had a full-length rotator cuff tear.

00:55:45.000 In Vegas, Dr. Roddy McGee shot me up with mesenchymal stem cells.

00:55:51.000 I went to a doctor.

00:55:53.000 The UFC gave me a doctor in Los Angeles.

00:55:55.000 He looks at my MRI. And he goes, you're going to need surgery.

00:56:00.000 And I go, 100%?

00:56:02.000 He's like, yeah.

00:56:03.000 I mean, he goes, I don't know how you're using it now.

00:56:05.000 And so he goes, well, let me put you through some paces.

00:56:08.000 Let me see.

00:56:08.000 He goes, resist this.

00:56:09.000 And I just resisted it.

00:56:11.000 And he goes like, huh.

00:56:12.000 He's like, resist that.

00:56:13.000 And I resisted that.

00:56:14.000 He's like, oh.

00:56:15.000 He's like, okay, it's pretty strong.

00:56:18.000 He goes, well, you know, it's a matter of time.

00:56:21.000 Just, you know, you're gonna need surgery, so, you know, might be better to do it now.

00:56:25.000 Even though it hurts, you've got good muscles supporting it, and so that's the only reason why it's okay.

00:56:31.000 So I got it shot up with stem cells.

00:56:33.000 Six months later, I go and get an MRI. The rotator cuff tear is gone.

00:56:38.000 Full length rotator cuff tear. 0.97

00:56:41.000 And Dr. McGee looks at me and goes, you know how fucking insane this is? 0.98

00:56:44.000 He goes, this is insane. 0.96

00:56:46.000 And this was like the early days of stem cells in America where you could kind of get away with more. 0.98

00:56:53.000 They were doing some wild shit that you've got to go to Mexico now again. 0.81

00:56:57.000 Like Tijuana, the Cellular Performance Institute, CPI, down there that... 0.97

00:57:04.000 My friend Ed Clay and Eddie Bravo's been down there.

00:57:08.000 A lot of UFC fighters have been down there.

00:57:12.000 It's incredible. 0.99

00:57:13.000 They fucking dose you. 1.00

00:57:16.000 They hit you with a lot of it. 1.00

00:57:18.000 And everybody I know that's gone down to that place is phenomenal.

00:57:20.000 Well, I went to Wish to Will for an IV, right, already.

00:57:23.000 And I had to say the next day, I called him, my muscle aches are way less.

00:57:28.000 It was just after one day.

00:57:29.000 Well, there's a definite reduction in inflammation that comes with that.

00:57:34.000 There's a lot of things you could do to reduce inflammation, but the healing thing is just incredible.

00:57:39.000 And I really wish, I mean, the problem is in this country, you know, without just blaming people, there's too much regulation when it regard to that kind of stuff.

00:57:49.000 And it's not because there's a lot of evidence that people get injured by stem cells.

00:57:53.000 I feel like there's a lot of pressure on them because there's a lot of drugs that people take when they're injured, and there's a tremendous industry in those drugs.

00:58:03.000 Tremendous industry in anti-inflammatories, there's a tremendous industry in the pain pills, and a lot of that would be hit hard if stem cells were openly not just allowed, but allowed the way they're allowing them in other countries.

00:58:20.000 It's everything, and they don't want that.

00:58:22.000 They don't want to fix you. 1.00

00:58:23.000 It's fucked. 1.00

00:58:23.000 It really is. 1.00

00:58:25.000 I mean, if they could make it so that you have to take a pill once a month, and that pill is worth a lot of money, and they can profit off of it, they'd be like, all in.

00:58:33.000 But this bile...

00:58:35.000 I am just a giant fan of stem cells, and I'm a giant fan of peptides.

00:58:40.000 Yeah, me too.

00:58:41.000 Always did peptides.

00:58:42.000 Makes a giant difference.

00:58:43.000 Trigger your own body to make more.

00:58:44.000 Yes.

00:58:44.000 It's the best.

00:58:45.000 It is.

00:58:46.000 It's always better than a foreign substance in you. 0.99

00:58:48.000 Yes.

00:58:49.000 And it's incredible what they can do now.

00:58:50.000 Yeah.

00:58:51.000 And we're really at the cusp of this.

00:58:54.000 They're doing things now where they have stem cell eye drops.

00:58:57.000 For people that have eye injuries.

00:58:59.000 I mean, the intravenous stem cells help with all sorts of neurological conditions and all sorts of issues that people have, particularly when they go to, say, Columbia, the bioaccelerator place, or Neil Reardon's place, which is in Panama.

00:59:13.000 Yeah, it's fucking, it's amazing what they can do now.

00:59:17.000 So anyway, this shoulder, many years later, zero problems. 0.99

00:59:21.000 Zero problems.

00:59:22.000 I do 90-pound clean presses with this, and I do windmills with it.

00:59:27.000 So I'm putting it in these compromising positions where I'm doing this with windmills with 90 pounds.

00:59:32.000 No problems.

00:59:34.000 Zero pain.

00:59:35.000 Throwing full punches, zero pain.

00:59:37.000 Nice.

00:59:38.000 No problem.

00:59:38.000 Pull a 90-pound bow back.

00:59:40.000 No problem.

00:59:41.000 No issues at all.

00:59:42.000 And this was that close to getting cut.

00:59:45.000 And now it doesn't bother me at all.

00:59:47.000 I mean, there's like nothing wrong with it.

00:59:50.000 It's so wild, right?

00:59:52.000 The wildest thing that I one time had was that I had a really...

00:59:57.000 The little pinky is thicker, because I hit somebody's hip, like the karate gi, hit the hip, and it was before a fight.

01:00:03.000 So I'm arriving at the Pancras for fighting, and the judge, who was the judge, was a really good freaking body mechanic guy.

01:00:14.000 I mean, everybody from around the world would go to that guy to have him look at him, because he was just really good with Tai Chi and whatever he did, what is it, acupressure, all that kind of stuff.

01:00:26.000 And he went to me and he says, okay, give me a hand.

01:00:29.000 I relaxed it.

01:00:29.000 And he pushed on three spots.

01:00:31.000 I was like, oh, shit, shit, shit. 1.00

01:00:32.000 He goes, no, just... 1.00

01:00:33.000 And he broke it out.

01:00:34.000 He does it again.

01:00:35.000 I go, okay.

01:00:36.000 He says, okay, how is it now?

01:00:38.000 And I go like...

01:00:41.000 I go, it's completely gone.

01:00:44.000 Like zero pain.

01:00:45.000 Not even a hint of it.

01:00:47.000 And he just opened up the pain blockages that he said that he was pressing.

01:00:52.000 And he was on the money, man.

01:00:53.000 He said, go out, out, out.

01:00:55.000 And the second time was already less than the third time.

01:00:57.000 He says, I should be good now.

01:00:58.000 That's so weird.

01:01:00.000 Nothing.

01:01:01.000 That's so weird.

01:01:02.000 Yeah.

01:01:02.000 What is it like now to rely on your left hand?

01:01:05.000 Because now you're thinking about if you're going to fuck somebody up, you're going to left hand them. 0.78

01:01:08.000 You're not going to throw a straight right anymore. 0.99

01:01:10.000 No, no, no.

01:01:11.000 No problem?

01:01:11.000 My triceps will still work.

01:01:13.000 Oh, no, I will knock you out. 1.00

01:01:16.000 And my uppercut is coming back. 0.91

01:01:18.000 The punches are still good.

01:01:19.000 The uppercut is a little less.

01:01:22.000 Yeah, a little less because of the shoulder, but the shoulder also came back.

01:01:24.000 Also the hook.

01:01:25.000 You know, I tell people when I'm doing a shadow boxing, I say, don't look at my right arm because it's probably going to be a little off.

01:01:31.000 Look at the left foot I'm doing.

01:01:32.000 But no, my crosses are there.

01:01:33.000 So thankfully my triceps came back.

01:01:35.000 Maybe in 12 more years, you get a full bicep.

01:01:38.000 Who knows?

01:01:39.000 Well, I mean, if they figure out some way to fix it, I mean, it's just like the medical advances that are happening are so magical.

01:01:48.000 It's a really, really incredible time.

01:01:50.000 It doesn't stop.

01:01:52.000 This whole talks with Mr. Kaku you had, you know, with the quantum computers and all that stuff.

01:01:58.000 Michio Kaku, yeah.

01:01:59.000 And it's all going to be probably in our bodies, right?

01:02:03.000 Something like that eventually is going to happen.

01:02:06.000 Yeah.

01:02:07.000 What do you think about that, boss?

01:02:08.000 I'm very scared of that.

01:02:10.000 Because they can hack me then.

01:02:11.000 I don't think if you...

01:02:13.000 I know.

01:02:15.000 I like how you go right to that.

01:02:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:02:17.000 That's what I would do if I'm a bad guy.

01:02:19.000 I'm gonna hack him.

01:02:20.000 That's a real problem.

01:02:21.000 It's a real problem because that's what I think the people that control the world...

01:02:25.000 They would genuinely like to have a one world government, one economy that the entire world shares, a digital currency that goes with the social credit system.

01:02:36.000 Yep, so they can turn it off and on. 0.94

01:02:37.000 And they can do whatever the fuck they want with you. 0.97

01:02:39.000 BJ Penn just made some post about that. 0.93

01:02:42.000 If you have an electric car and you get arrested, or if they're looking for you, they could literally tell your electric car to drive to the police station.

01:02:51.000 Whoa.

01:02:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:02:53.000 Fuck that. 1.00

01:02:55.000 I would never go full electric. 1.00

01:02:58.000 Get an electric, but also get gas on the side.

01:03:02.000 I have an electric car that I love. 0.99

01:03:04.000 I have a Tesla, and it's fucking magic. 0.98

01:03:06.000 The speed of that thing is magic. 0.99

01:03:08.000 Yeah, 2.3, right?

01:03:11.000 It's faster.

01:03:12.000 I think it's like, what is the plaid 0-60? 0.99

01:03:16.000 It's fucking insane. 0.98

01:03:17.000 It's 1100 horsepower. 0.99

01:03:18.000 It's so fast, it's so fun, and it's so quiet.

01:03:23.000 That's my calm car.

01:03:25.000 It's my car that I love when I want to drive to work and just chill out and think and listen to music.

01:03:30.000 I drive that car because it just makes no sound.

01:03:35.000 That's super fast.

01:03:38.000 But it's very safe too in that if you have to merge on the highway, you just hit the gas.

01:03:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:03:44.000 It's like you're teleporting.

01:03:46.000 I love that car.

01:03:47.000 I love it so much.

01:03:48.000 It's so good.

01:03:50.000 There's a lot of things.

01:03:51.000 They have a weird steering wheel.

01:03:52.000 It has the yoke steering wheel.

01:03:53.000 So it's not a wheel.

01:03:54.000 But now they offer it in a wheel.

01:03:55.000 So they fixed the number one problem that I had with it.

01:03:58.000 You still have to keep your hands on it for at least a minute.

01:04:01.000 Oh, to do auto driving?

01:04:02.000 Yeah, because people hang weights on it or something. 0.99

01:04:05.000 I don't fuck with that. 0.99

01:04:06.000 I don't fuck with the auto driving. 0.99

01:04:08.000 I mess around with it every now and then just for fun, but I never let it drive me around. 0.95

01:04:12.000 I keep my hands on it. 1.00

01:04:14.000 Do you fuck around with it, Jamie? 1.00

01:04:15.000 You got the full auto drive, right? 1.00

01:04:16.000 You got that beta, right?

01:04:17.000 Sometimes, here and there.

01:04:19.000 If I'm on a 10-minute drive, I would maybe use it for four minutes of that 10-minute drive.

01:04:24.000 It's not ready for prime time yet.

01:04:26.000 I'm not...

01:04:26.000 Who?

01:04:28.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:04:28.000 I'm not fucking... 0.95

01:04:29.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:04:29.000 But the thing is, the way Teslas work, Tesla has the absolute most advanced auto driving that's ever existed. 0.96

01:04:37.000 And they're getting information from all these vehicles and improving upon it with every iteration.

01:04:42.000 So they're always getting these software updates.

01:04:44.000 They're constantly working on it. 1.00

01:04:46.000 These engineers are fucking wizards. 1.00

01:04:48.000 Yep. 1.00

01:04:48.000 And they're making it better and better. 1.00

01:04:50.000 And it does drive really nice, but I like that drive.

01:04:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:04:53.000 You know?

01:04:53.000 Like I drove my 1993 Porsche today.

01:04:57.000 It doesn't have power steering.

01:04:59.000 It doesn't have a radio.

01:05:01.000 It doesn't have air conditioning. 1.00

01:05:02.000 It doesn't have jack shit. 1.00

01:05:03.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:05:04.000 And it's air-cooled.

01:05:05.000 And it's just...

01:05:07.000 But it's fun.

01:05:08.000 Oh my god.

01:05:09.000 It's not even fast.

01:05:10.000 It's so much slower than my Tesla, but my god, it's a...

01:05:14.000 Visceral experience, like your whole body feels it when you drive it.

01:05:17.000 It's like...

01:05:18.000 It's fun!

01:05:23.000 It's exciting!

01:05:24.000 I love that stuff.

01:05:26.000 I love it.

01:05:26.000 Yeah, 93. This is when I started fighting.

01:05:29.000 Imagine, that's how old I'm a freaking fossil. 0.93

01:05:32.000 I remember in 90...

01:05:34.000 I think it was 94 or 95, I watched Pedro Hizo workout at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu.

01:05:42.000 And that was when I realized how hard someone can kick you in the legs.

01:05:45.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:46.000 I watched him kick the heavy bag, and I don't think there's ever...

01:05:49.000 I've never seen a human ever in all my days.

01:05:52.000 I've seen a lot of people kick.

01:05:53.000 I've never seen a human kick harder than Pedro Hiza.

01:05:56.000 Oh, he's an animal because he's got technique and he's got the weight. 1.00

01:05:58.000 And he's got these giant fucking legs. 1.00

01:06:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:06:02.000 Oh, my God.

01:06:03.000 Yeah, kick by him is not fun.

01:06:05.000 He was kicking the bag, and I remember thinking...

01:06:08.000 Yeah.

01:06:08.000 One of those.

01:06:09.000 I remember when he fought Rico Rodriguez. 0.99

01:06:11.000 He kicked Rico once, and Rico was looking at his face and was like, what the fuck is that? 0.99

01:06:17.000 Freaking thank Abbott. 0.99

01:06:18.000 Yeah, look at that.

01:06:18.000 He spins somebody around him.

01:06:23.000 Caught air!

01:06:24.000 Pedro, Dan Severin fought him too.

01:06:26.000 He stopped Dan Severin with leg kicks. 1.00

01:06:28.000 I mean, his fucking leg kicks were insane. 0.98

01:06:32.000 I mean, Randy Couture, when he fought him, like, they had to really convince Randy to fight him a second time. 1.00

01:06:39.000 And, you know, he had battered his fucking legs. 0.98

01:06:42.000 Cameron Randleman, too. 0.99

01:06:43.000 He knocked out Josh Barnett, too, and it was a lot of that. 0.99

01:06:46.000 His fucking Muay Thai. 0.99

01:06:47.000 And he was Marco Huaz's prize pupil. 1.00

01:06:50.000 He was his number one pupil. 1.00

01:06:52.000 Pedro Hizzo was the fucking man. 1.00

01:06:55.000 He's another one that people forget. 1.00

01:06:58.000 Pedro Hizzo, his fucking leg kicks, man. 1.00

01:07:01.000 And I'm telling you, I've seen so many people kick the bag. 1.00

01:07:06.000 No one has ever impressed me with a leg kick, a low kick on the bag, like Pedro Hizzo. 1.00

01:07:11.000 Look at the size of his fucking legs. 0.99

01:07:13.000 I mean, they're tree trunks. 1.00

01:07:14.000 And he just had this power that was, you couldn't take them.

01:07:18.000 And this is before the calf kick.

01:07:20.000 You know, this is early days. 0.99

01:07:21.000 He was fucking people up with just kicking the thighs. 0.99

01:07:25.000 As soon as he hit you a couple of times, it was just like, oh Jesus Christ. 0.99

01:07:29.000 Everybody was just like, that's it, that's it.

01:07:32.000 I'm done, I'm done.

01:07:33.000 Please, please stop this fight.

01:07:35.000 Please.

01:07:37.000 Referees were a little bit more lenient back then.

01:07:40.000 And these are fighters.

01:07:41.000 Imagine this happening to a person on the street.

01:07:44.000 If you don't know what a low kick is and you're not flexing...

01:07:47.000 Well, Forrest Griffin kicked a reporter.

01:07:50.000 He has some deal with a reporter.

01:07:52.000 He said, I'll do an interview with you. 1.00

01:07:53.000 Let me kick your leg. 1.00

01:07:55.000 Oh, and he's not holding back. 0.96

01:07:56.000 And he full power low kicked him and put a hairline fracture in this dude's tibia.

01:08:02.000 Was it a tibia?

01:08:03.000 It's a special.

01:08:04.000 Femur?

01:08:05.000 One of the major bones.

01:08:08.000 We just had to sign some autographs together.

01:08:10.000 Oh, this is it, yeah.

01:08:11.000 Oh, no.

01:08:12.000 Oh, God!

01:08:15.000 Oh, you know, this is...

01:08:17.000 He didn't even kick him full blast.

01:08:20.000 No, I don't think you can.

01:08:23.000 Literally, you're going to break.

01:08:24.000 It would be evil.

01:08:25.000 It would be evil.

01:08:27.000 Check himself to treat it for a hairline fracture of the femur.

01:08:30.000 Yeah.

01:08:31.000 Jesus Christ.

01:08:32.000 Don't.

01:08:33.000 Reporters.

01:08:34.000 If someone says that to you, say, no, thank you.

01:08:37.000 I would rather not interview you, sir.

01:08:38.000 I'm at a circus shrine with my wife and this whole bus.

01:08:42.000 People are yelling out at the bus.

01:08:44.000 It's these skits. 0.83

01:08:45.000 And they stop the whole bus and they come out and they want me pictures and they want me to hit them. 0.95

01:08:50.000 Oh God.

01:08:51.000 So I go, you know, and he goes, thank you. 1.00

01:08:55.000 But they look at me like asshole. 0.99

01:08:56.000 And I go, what is the look? 1.00

01:08:58.000 And my wife says, I think you have to hit him on her. 0.97

01:09:01.000 I go, you serious? 0.97

01:09:01.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:09:02.000 Yeah, I go, come back.

01:09:03.000 Boom.

01:09:06.000 And he's going, ah, I go, oh, thank you.

01:09:08.000 Oh, in his shoulder?

01:09:09.000 Oh, God.

01:09:09.000 Loving it.

01:09:10.000 And then I start kicking the crap out of people's legs. 1.00

01:09:12.000 It's fun. 0.99

01:09:13.000 But, you know, they were much happier.

01:09:16.000 That's the weird thing.

01:09:17.000 They want you to hurt them because somehow that makes it...

01:09:21.000 I don't know.

01:09:22.000 I don't get it.

01:09:23.000 I don't get it.

01:09:24.000 Didn't Jason Ellis let Chuck Liddell in his prime punch him in the arm full blast?

01:09:30.000 I think there's a video of that.

01:09:31.000 That's not a smart thing to do. 0.99

01:09:32.000 Jason Ellis is a psychopath, though. 1.00

01:09:34.000 He's crazy. 1.00

01:09:36.000 Funny. 0.87

01:09:36.000 He's very funny. 0.87

01:09:37.000 I think he enjoys a little bit of pain.

01:09:39.000 There's something about that gentleman that's a little bit off.

01:09:41.000 Yeah, here it is. 0.99

01:09:42.000 This is Chuck in his fucking prime, too. 0.99

01:09:46.000 Oh, no. 1.00

01:09:46.000 Oh, okay. 1.00

01:09:49.000 Oh! 0.60

01:09:50.000 Yeah, oh.

01:09:51.000 I don't...

01:09:52.000 Yeah.

01:09:56.000 Yeah.

01:09:59.000 In the arm.

01:09:59.000 And did you see Chuck, he wanted to go.

01:10:03.000 Yeah, he gets crazy.

01:10:04.000 He gets crazy when he hits it. 1.00

01:10:05.000 That fucking switch gets turned. 1.00

01:10:07.000 Chuck, that's another one. 1.00

01:10:09.000 Chuck Liddell in his prime was a fucking monster. 1.00

01:10:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:10:14.000 Because he could take it.

01:10:15.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:10:16.000 He could take a shot in the chin so good that he would just fucking wade forward, almost daring you to hit him and just fucking He made the UFC in 2005 when the UFC became popular it was popular because of the Forrest Griffin that did that the big final between Stefan Bonner and Forrest Griffin and the ultimate fighter made the UFC Everybody watched on TV. They're like, what is this? 0.98

01:10:43.000 This is wild, but then you got to see the champion and You got to see Chuck Liddell when he was a fucking... 0.97

01:10:50.000 Put up Chuck Liddell vs. 0.97

01:10:51.000 Babalu.

01:10:52.000 See if you can find that.

01:10:53.000 He was hunting people.

01:10:55.000 He was hunting people.

01:10:56.000 And he was a wrestler that never wrestled.

01:10:59.000 He never used his wrestling in the octagon other than to get up. 1.00

01:11:02.000 He just wanted to fuck you up. 0.99

01:11:04.000 And he was really good at it, too. 1.00

01:11:06.000 And trained by John Hackleman, who's old school.

01:11:11.000 Just old school.

01:11:12.000 That place that he had in San Luis Obispo, the pit, where he would make these guys do it. 0.97

01:11:16.000 He was like the originator of all these crazy workouts with wheel barrels and shit. 0.98

01:11:21.000 There he is. 1.00

01:11:21.000 Stop. 1.00

01:11:22.000 Chuck Liddell, man. 1.00

01:11:24.000 People forget he was a fucking monster. 1.00

01:11:27.000 Because he was a big, tall, light heavyweight. 1.00

01:11:29.000 He was a huge guy.

01:11:31.000 Crazy power.

01:11:32.000 And you couldn't take him down.

01:11:34.000 His wrestling was incredible. 0.99

01:11:36.000 And Babalu was tough as fuck. 0.98

01:11:38.000 Babalu was another guy. 0.99

01:11:40.000 Elite, elite fighter. 1.00

01:11:43.000 Babalu was a fucking animal, man. 1.00

01:11:45.000 There's a crazy Babalu soccer kick knockout of this really thick, muscled guy. 1.00

01:11:53.000 Forget who the dude was, but Babalu cracked him and then soccer kicked him.

01:11:58.000 It's, oh!

01:12:00.000 Oh, see if you can find that.

01:12:02.000 See if you can find that.

01:12:03.000 See if you can find that.

01:12:04.000 You've got to give Babalu his props, because Babalu was another guy, a guy that people forgot.

01:12:09.000 There it is.

01:12:10.000 Is that it?

01:12:12.000 Yes.

01:12:13.000 I forget who the guy was.

01:12:15.000 Yeah, it's right before that.

01:12:16.000 Boom! 0.99

01:12:17.000 I mean, with wrestling shoes on back then, right?

01:12:20.000 Because they would let guys fight with wrestling shoes. 1.00

01:12:23.000 Brad Kohler?

01:12:24.000 Is that who it was?

01:12:25.000 I forget who the guy was.

01:12:27.000 I think that's Brad Kohler, who was another tank. 0.99

01:12:31.000 Goddamn those early days. 0.99

01:12:32.000 Those early days were wild. 0.97

01:12:34.000 How fun were those?

01:12:34.000 They're crazy.

01:12:35.000 When guys would fight with wrestling shoes on, which is very interesting because you could do so much more with movement and with that grip from the wrestling shoes.

01:12:46.000 I just had an event that was asked me for a student of his for Karate Combat.

01:12:51.000 So I'm at the show and he's already there.

01:12:54.000 I go, this is two months ago.

01:12:56.000 They already allowed you.

01:12:57.000 I go, yeah, man, I'm looking forward to this.

01:12:59.000 But you can see that he's trained by Eves, you know?

01:13:03.000 But Eves, that was also one of those guys that you should keep an eye on.

01:13:07.000 Oh, yeah.

01:13:07.000 He did the one knockout that he did one time.

01:13:10.000 Josh Thompson.

01:13:11.000 The jumping knee when he had the single leg.

01:13:13.000 Did you ever see that?

01:13:14.000 Yes.

01:13:15.000 I always told my students, I go, if somebody has a single leg on you, imagine you jump up with the same leg that you jump in, knee him in the face, and then land on that same foot again.

01:13:24.000 Yeah.

01:13:25.000 Freaking, Eve pulled it off. 1.00

01:13:26.000 Yeah.

01:13:27.000 He did it.

01:13:27.000 Oh, Eve was elite, man.

01:13:28.000 Yeah.

01:13:29.000 Eve was elite, man.

01:13:31.000 So here, this is the Josh Thompson KO. And this, by the way, this is when Josh Thompson was one of the best in the world.

01:13:38.000 So it's in a scramble.

01:13:41.000 They break loose here.

01:13:43.000 Josh Thompson gets up and Eve catches him right here.

01:13:46.000 Boom! 0.99

01:13:46.000 With a jumping round kick. 0.99

01:13:50.000 And then Josh Thompson was the first guy to ever stop Nate Diaz.

01:13:54.000 Yeah, I was there.

01:13:56.000 Same kick.

01:13:57.000 Head kick.

01:13:58.000 Head kick of Nate Diaz.

01:13:59.000 I was with Eve at an underground fight somewhere.

01:14:05.000 You know, the athletic commission would come in first, and they said, okay, there's not going to be...

01:14:11.000 They made up this story that it's going to be just wrestling.

01:14:13.000 Two guys are going to roll against each other.

01:14:15.000 As soon as they left the building, they closed the doors, they said, okay, everything is on, and then the real fighting started.

01:14:20.000 And I remember I'm standing next to the cage, and he's on somebody, and he said, because I'm in his corner, I trained him, and he starts, he's hitting the guy, he just crosses, crosses, crosses.

01:14:28.000 I go, Yves!

01:14:29.000 And he looks at me, I go, left hook, right straight.

01:14:32.000 And he goes, bang, bang, out.

01:14:33.000 And I go...

01:14:35.000 See, you don't want to waste any energy.

01:14:37.000 But he's always funny like that.

01:14:39.000 He goes, oh, just bam-bam.

01:14:40.000 That's the nickname now.

01:14:42.000 Bam-bam.

01:14:43.000 Bam-bam.

01:14:43.000 Password says bam-bam.

01:14:45.000 I had this story with Marco Huas.

01:14:46.000 We go to Yves Edwards in Houston, and there's this cup.

01:14:49.000 I'm drinking a Heineken outside, and this little cop is there with shades on in the middle of the night, you know, exactly, with the pumped-up arms.

01:14:58.000 And he's telling me to get rid of my beer.

01:15:00.000 So I say, sure.

01:15:01.000 So I start drinking the beer.

01:15:03.000 He says, stop drinking, stop drinking, stop drinking.

01:15:04.000 But I finish it, I throw it away.

01:15:06.000 He says, I told you to get rid of the beer.

01:15:07.000 I say, and I just did.

01:15:09.000 Everything is okay.

01:15:10.000 You want to go?

01:15:10.000 And then Yvette goes, no, he's from Holland.

01:15:12.000 Like, that's different here in America.

01:15:15.000 Well, it is with drinking.

01:15:16.000 It is.

01:15:17.000 Yeah.

01:15:18.000 But anyway, the guy was angry and he left.

01:15:21.000 This is an outside event.

01:15:23.000 And there's a fence in between...

01:15:26.000 Wherever it is.

01:15:27.000 And the cop now comes over, he's sitting shotgun, he has his arm hanging out the window, still with the shades on, his partner's driving, and he's just deadlocking me in the eyes.

01:15:38.000 So I moon him.

01:15:42.000 And Marco Hua stands next to me, and I go, because they start running after us, and she's like, now we gotta run.

01:15:48.000 And then it's just, we be like, the next day I wake up and Marco has his whole finger, it's like all bandaged up, and still to this day I don't know what happened, but then I said, I said to him, I said, What did you do?

01:16:00.000 He goes, you did that!

01:16:03.000 Apparently I did it, but he never said what it was.

01:16:05.000 You did that?

01:16:06.000 I did it.

01:16:07.000 But he didn't tell you what he had to do.

01:16:08.000 He did not do it.

01:16:09.000 He did not tell me.

01:16:10.000 He didn't want to incriminate himself.

01:16:11.000 Maybe it's too dark.

01:16:12.000 Oh, here's the flying knee.

01:16:13.000 This is this.

01:16:14.000 Yeah.

01:16:15.000 Boom! 0.99

01:16:16.000 Amazing.

01:16:19.000 Yeah, that was Elite XC, right?

01:16:20.000 Yeah, that was so badass.

01:16:22.000 Oh, Skimbo was fighting on the same show.

01:16:23.000 Yes.

01:16:24.000 Elite XC was crazy.

01:16:26.000 That was interesting, right?

01:16:27.000 Because wasn't that CBS? I think it was CBS. It was CBS, yes.

01:16:31.000 Yeah, which was like the early, early days, and they took a wild chance.

01:16:36.000 Yeah.

01:16:37.000 And that's when Kimbo had become, he was like the first guy to become popular from internet videos.

01:16:42.000 Gigantic.

01:16:43.000 Yes.

01:16:44.000 I mean, we would go to freaking, if we go to a different state, they like to play video games, so we would buy a console somewhere.

01:16:51.000 But you can't walk on the street with that guy.

01:16:53.000 Everybody knows him.

01:16:55.000 Oh, yeah.

01:16:55.000 Well, he had a crazy look, too.

01:16:57.000 The bald head with the beard.

01:16:58.000 He looked so good.

01:17:00.000 He was such a good guy, too.

01:17:02.000 The whole group.

01:17:04.000 That whole entourage.

01:17:06.000 Freaking laughing all day long.

01:17:09.000 It's hilarious. 0.93

01:17:09.000 Those guys are crazy. 0.93

01:17:11.000 Funny. 0.60

01:17:12.000 He fought that cop from Massachusetts in that wild fight that was a bare-knuckle boxing fight in a karate dojo.

01:17:22.000 Yeah.

01:17:22.000 Do you remember that?

01:17:23.000 With the guillotine that you've complained about.

01:17:25.000 Yeah.

01:17:26.000 Sean.

01:17:27.000 He won the UFC. Sean what?

01:17:28.000 Gannon.

01:17:29.000 Sean Gannon.

01:17:29.000 Sean Gannon went to the UFC and he fought Brandon Lee Hinkle.

01:17:32.000 Yeah.

01:17:32.000 And he got beat up.

01:17:33.000 Yeah.

01:17:33.000 But didn't he win before he was the wildcard or something that you see before?

01:17:38.000 I don't think so.

01:17:39.000 I think Kimbo back in the day.

01:17:42.000 Look at him.

01:17:43.000 What did Kimbo die of?

01:17:44.000 He had like a heart attack or something?

01:17:45.000 Heart attack, yeah.

01:17:46.000 It's crazy.

01:17:48.000 Because he was pretty young.

01:17:49.000 He was in his 40s, right?

01:17:51.000 Yeah, so this was a brawl.

01:17:53.000 This was back when Kimbo was the man.

01:17:55.000 Everybody was terrified of Kimbo.

01:17:57.000 But Sean Gannon, who was an MMA fighter, was also a cop and was just fucking incredibly tough and had wild cardio and really knew how to, like, extend himself in, like, a real war.

01:18:12.000 And this was a crazy fight. 0.82

01:18:14.000 Look at the face!

01:18:16.000 Oh, he dazed him!

01:18:17.000 Yeah.

01:18:18.000 Sean Gannett's face, at the end of this, his face was like completely hematomated.

01:18:23.000 Yeah, so he got this guillotine.

01:18:24.000 And there were no jokes.

01:18:25.000 They said they couldn't fight in the ground.

01:18:27.000 No, there were no jokes.

01:18:28.000 But they didn't say anything about standing up.

01:18:29.000 There was like a lot of dispute about whether or not that was okay.

01:18:32.000 Why are they blurring out the back of his shirt?

01:18:34.000 Probably middle fingers or something.

01:18:36.000 Logos that they probably got in trouble for marrying.

01:18:39.000 Probably.

01:18:40.000 Yeah, weren't you watching Who Pass TV? So this guy goes in, look at this, Kimbo's people, they're trying to separate this, because there's some dispute as to whether or not a standing guillotine constitutes grappling.

01:18:57.000 So then Kimbo gets him on the ground.

01:18:58.000 Now Kimbo's violating the rules because he's trying to ground and pound him.

01:19:03.000 And Sean pushes him off, Sean gets back up to his feet, and then they go back to war.

01:19:08.000 And so they were giving them 30 counts, not a 10 count, but a 30 count.

01:19:14.000 Because at one point in time, oh, look at that liver shot.

01:19:16.000 Oh, that was nice, yeah.

01:19:17.000 That was a nice liver shot. 0.93

01:19:18.000 And especially because he's southpaw.

01:19:20.000 It's a long one.

01:19:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:21.000 Bill Spence does that.

01:19:22.000 You can see it.

01:19:23.000 He's hurting from it.

01:19:24.000 He's hurting from it.

01:19:24.000 He's trying to shake it off.

01:19:25.000 Yep.

01:19:26.000 Again, again.

01:19:27.000 There it is, there it is.

01:19:29.000 It's the liver.

01:19:30.000 The boss rooting special.

01:19:31.000 Boop, boop, boop. 1.00

01:19:32.000 Yeah, and so this fight went on for, shit, I don't know how many minutes. 0.99

01:19:37.000 Yeah, a long time. 1.00

01:19:38.000 Fucking crazy. 0.99

01:19:39.000 And the pace. 0.99

01:19:41.000 Yeah, and so when he knocks him down, he drops him, and so Kimbo goes down, and then they start the count.

01:19:49.000 They separate him, they pulled Sean off of him.

01:19:51.000 There's a lot of people involved in this.

01:19:53.000 And then they give Kimbo like 30 seconds.

01:19:57.000 Like look how long they give it.

01:19:59.000 Play this out, play this out.

01:20:00.000 So they separate him.

01:20:05.000 17, 18, 19, 20, 21. Oh look, Sean's face is so fucked up they're blurring his face. 0.99

01:20:15.000 Look how fucked up his face is! 1.00

01:20:18.000 And he gets back up. 1.00

01:20:21.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

01:20:22.000 Yeah.

01:20:23.000 Yeah.

01:20:23.000 It was over.

01:20:24.000 It was over.

01:20:27.000 Crazy.

01:20:29.000 The early days, man.

01:20:31.000 Those were the days.

01:20:34.000 See, if Kimbo was around now in bare-knuckle boxing, he'd have a place. 0.95

01:20:40.000 That would have been his freaking jam. 0.94

01:20:42.000 Oh, yeah. 0.96

01:20:43.000 Well, you know, it's interesting.

01:20:44.000 Houston Alexander's made a resurgence.

01:20:47.000 Houston Alexander's won four fights in bare-knuckle boxing, and I think he's 50. Jeez.

01:20:54.000 He's a fucking... 1.00

01:20:55.000 And he's a radio DJ. He just won. 1.00

01:20:59.000 51, sorry.

01:21:00.000 51!

01:21:00.000 51 years old.

01:21:02.000 Houston Alexander, man.

01:21:04.000 When Houston Alexander burst onto the scene in the UFC, he was starching people.

01:21:10.000 51-year-old Houston Alexander survives brutal rib-roasting, remains undefeated in bare-knuckle boxing.

01:21:15.000 Incredible.

01:21:15.000 And Houston, when he first fought in the UFC... God, what was his first fight?

01:21:20.000 Was it a...

01:21:22.000 Who did he fight?

01:21:24.000 It says he knocked out Keith Jardine in 2007. That's right!

01:21:27.000 Pull that fight up.

01:21:29.000 Houston Alexander versus Keith Jardine. 0.99

01:21:31.000 Because Houston Alexander was all fucking... 0.99

01:21:33.000 And this is 2007! 1.00

01:21:36.000 Think of that!

01:21:38.000 Think of that!

01:21:39.000 16 years ago!

01:21:42.000 He's fighting MMA, and when nobody had known him, nobody knew who he was, and he was a radio DJ. And everybody was like, look at this guy.

01:21:52.000 All jacked and muscular, but fucking incredible power. 0.99

01:21:57.000 I mean... 0.99

01:21:58.000 Yeah, and he got tested too in that fight.

01:22:07.000 Yeah, but in the clinch. 0.72

01:22:09.000 Look at this power.

01:22:09.000 Wow, nice.

01:22:10.000 I like that.

01:22:11.000 Oh, the uppercut.

01:22:13.000 This was a big, big upset at the time.

01:22:16.000 Oh, I remember this.

01:22:17.000 Yeah, I remember that. 1.00

01:22:20.000 Bro, Houston Alexander was the fucking man. 0.99

01:22:24.000 He fought Kimbo in the UFC. They had like a decision fight, but it was a crazy war. 1.00

01:22:30.000 Look at that. 1.00

01:22:31.000 Houston, motherfucking Alexander. 1.00

01:22:33.000 We have no problem. 1.00

01:22:34.000 That's been used too many times.

01:22:37.000 Yeah.

01:22:37.000 When your name is Houston.

01:22:38.000 Look at that.

01:22:39.000 Look how jacked he was.

01:22:40.000 Woo! 0.99

01:22:41.000 Amazing.

01:22:42.000 Who's the guy from the actor?

01:22:45.000 Oh, Common.

01:22:46.000 And John Wick.

01:22:47.000 Common.

01:22:47.000 He's a rapper.

01:22:48.000 Yeah.

01:22:48.000 Oh, yeah.

01:22:49.000 And John Wick 3. Yeah.

01:22:50.000 Or 2. Yeah, John Wick 2. Yeah.

01:22:53.000 Houston Alexander.

01:22:54.000 Yeah.

01:22:54.000 51 years old.

01:22:56.000 I love that.

01:22:56.000 Still throwing down.

01:22:57.000 Crazy. 0.70

01:22:58.000 He's basically my age. 0.87

01:23:00.000 Bare knuckle boxing and winning.

01:23:03.000 Look at that.

01:23:04.000 Amazing. 1.00

01:23:05.000 Still a bad motherfucker. 0.99

01:23:07.000 Houston Alexander remains undefeated in bare-knuckle boxing. 1.00

01:23:10.000 Man!

01:23:11.000 That's amazing.

01:23:13.000 Yeah, Joe Romero.

01:23:16.000 No one knows how old he is, because he was born in Cuba.

01:23:20.000 He might be 100 years old. 0.99

01:23:23.000 But that guy, boy, the fucking athleticism that guy had. 0.99

01:23:27.000 Everybody that fought him said hitting him is like hitting metal. 0.99

01:23:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:23:31.000 And they all say he's using it.

01:23:33.000 It's always clean.

01:23:34.000 I love that.

01:23:36.000 Well, he was a part of the Cuban program.

01:23:40.000 This sounds really freaky.

01:23:42.000 No one really knows what they did with him when he was young.

01:23:45.000 Oh, for real?

01:23:46.000 Yes.

01:23:46.000 Here's the thing.

01:23:47.000 I've told this story before.

01:23:48.000 Unfortunately, I'll tell it again for other people who haven't heard it.

01:23:51.000 He fought for the UFC and then they brought him to a doctor.

01:23:55.000 He had a fractured orbital and they brought him to a doctor and the doctor calls the UFC and goes, where did you get this guy?

01:24:03.000 And he goes, yeah, he's amazing, right?

01:24:05.000 He goes, no, no, no, you don't understand.

01:24:06.000 I've never seen a human being like this.

01:24:09.000 He goes, the tendons in his eye are three times larger than normal.

01:24:13.000 He goes, and his orbital fracture has already started healing.

01:24:17.000 He goes, this is insane.

01:24:19.000 Yeah.

01:24:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:24:21.000 Who knows what the fuck they did over there in Cuba? 0.97

01:24:23.000 Because I think they took some pages out of the Russians, like when they created Alexander Corellin. 1.00

01:24:29.000 There's a photo in my gym out there of Corellin, and I put that photo up just to remind me of what a pussy I am. 1.00

01:24:36.000 Because it's Corellin, and he's lifting this guy up in the air. 0.99

01:24:40.000 Find that photo of Corellin, because it's Fucking wild. 0.97

01:24:44.000 That photo. 0.97

01:24:45.000 I have a giant photo of that in the gym out there. 1.00

01:24:47.000 Look at that motherfucker. 1.00

01:24:49.000 He was like six to three hundred pounds and he moved like a cat. 1.00

01:24:55.000 And he was famous for hoisting people up in the air and fucking slamming them on the ground. 0.99

01:25:00.000 People would lay flat on the floor and he would still suplex them. 0.98

01:25:04.000 Go to Alexander Carell in Highlight.

01:25:07.000 Yeah, because they were just terrified.

01:25:09.000 His wrestling was so different because he was killing you with the ground.

01:25:13.000 He was smashing you into the ground.

01:25:15.000 He was basically beating you up with the ground.

01:25:18.000 Everybody else was trying to wrestle.

01:25:19.000 He was trying to pound you into the ground.

01:25:22.000 I mean, undefeated up until he fought Rulon Garner.

01:25:26.000 Look at this.

01:25:27.000 The athleticism that this guy had.

01:25:29.000 It was crazy. 1.00

01:25:30.000 Look at the size of that motherfucker! 1.00

01:25:33.000 By the way, the idea that he's clean is just shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:25:37.000 Just stop. 0.99

01:25:39.000 Just let that all go.

01:25:40.000 Who cares?

01:25:41.000 Just look what's possible.

01:25:43.000 Look what's possible with Russian science and technique.

01:25:46.000 Obviously the technique was stellar too, but the training, the discipline, everything. 1.00

01:25:52.000 And this guy was a motherfucker, dude. 0.99

01:25:56.000 Look at that. 1.00

01:25:57.000 Boom! 0.99

01:25:58.000 And these are 270 pound men.

01:26:00.000 Big men.

01:26:01.000 Heavyweights. 0.99

01:26:02.000 And he was so fucking terrifying. 0.98

01:26:08.000 Amazing. 0.97

01:26:08.000 What happened with the Roland Gartner thing? 0.97

01:26:10.000 I know he beat him, but it was something controversial.

01:26:13.000 It was a new rule.

01:26:14.000 The new rule was, it's Greco-Roman, and the new rule is if you could separate the grip, it was one point.

01:26:20.000 And Roulon separated his grip.

01:26:22.000 But that rule didn't exist before then.

01:26:25.000 It doesn't mean anything.

01:26:26.000 They gave him a point for that.

01:26:28.000 I guess it's because there wasn't enough points being scored in some of the matches.

01:26:32.000 So they changed this.

01:26:33.000 They didn't change it for Rulon.

01:26:34.000 They just changed it and Rulon won.

01:26:36.000 And Rulon was another beast.

01:26:37.000 Listen, his story, like a plane crash, everybody's dead, he swims to the shore.

01:26:44.000 Is that what happened?

01:26:45.000 Oh, dude, he almost lost his foot, frostbite, everything.

01:26:48.000 He survives everything, this guy.

01:26:49.000 That was a different thing, right?

01:26:50.000 The frostbite was a snowmobile accident, I believe.

01:26:52.000 Oh, I thought it was from the swimming back to the shore after the plane crashed.

01:26:56.000 I think with Rulon, the thing was... 0.99

01:26:59.000 So Rulon was also an enormous country-fed motherfucker who was a hell of a wrestler. 0.99

01:27:05.000 Hell of a wrestler. 0.99

01:27:06.000 And he went off to fight in pride.

01:27:08.000 Remember?

01:27:09.000 Yeah, but that's what I mean.

01:27:10.000 I helped him with Ryan Parsons.

01:27:12.000 That's why I was in the corner.

01:27:13.000 That's why you heard these crazy stories.

01:27:16.000 Yeah, and that was 0-0, and then Rulon got him to separate the grip at one point in time.

01:27:22.000 And that was it.

01:27:23.000 You find it?

01:27:24.000 Yeah, I think that was it.

01:27:25.000 That was it?

01:27:26.000 That was it.

01:27:26.000 He just won.

01:27:27.000 And then when they come back, he's up 1-0, so...

01:27:30.000 Yeah, interesting.

01:27:31.000 This is right here.

01:27:31.000 They went to the tape to check about his grip here.

01:27:34.000 So he gets...

01:27:36.000 ...brings their arms above the shoulders first, and they both go at the same time, and there you see...

01:27:40.000 Right there.

01:27:41.000 He just changed his hands.

01:27:45.000 How were the officials interpreted?

01:27:47.000 My interpretation there is they both came up at the same time and Corellin broke his lock.

01:27:52.000 He could be penalized a point.

01:27:55.000 That's crazy.

01:27:56.000 That's crazy.

01:27:57.000 And that's the great Jeff Blatnick doing commentary.

01:28:00.000 Yeah.

01:28:01.000 Good guy.

01:28:02.000 Rest in peace.

01:28:03.000 The nicest.

01:28:04.000 So nice guy.

01:28:05.000 The nicest.

01:28:05.000 Instrumental.

01:28:06.000 Yeah.

01:28:07.000 Also in the rules.

01:28:08.000 Together with Big John.

01:28:09.000 Yeah, instrumental also in bringing credibility to the UFC because here you have this guy who's this Olympic wrestler, this elite wrestler, who is embracing MMA and talking about how important it is.

01:28:22.000 Yeah, and this is what they would do.

01:28:24.000 They would flatten out. 0.99

01:28:27.000 Yeah, Rulon, like you said, he's a freaking animal too, man. 0.99

01:28:30.000 He's a special human being. 0.98

01:28:32.000 Why don't you go to the Olympics?

01:28:34.000 You know, you're... 0.99

01:28:35.000 Freaks. 0.58

01:28:36.000 One point in Rulon Gardner, gold medalist.

01:28:39.000 Wow.

01:28:40.000 And then he went off to fight in Pride, and when he was fighting in Pride, he was jabbing people. 0.99

01:28:45.000 Just fucking hitting them with that giant canned ham fist of his. 0.99

01:28:49.000 Boom! 1.00

01:28:51.000 I'm just thinking about the karate car who won the gold medal by getting knocked out.

01:28:57.000 Do you remember the last Olympics?

01:28:59.000 Oh yes, yes.

01:29:01.000 Imagine you wake up and say, what happened?

01:29:03.000 You're the world champion, dude.

01:29:05.000 Because in karate, in the Olympics, you're not supposed to hit him hard.

01:29:08.000 But he bobbed into it when you saw it.

01:29:10.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:29:12.000 Karate combat tried to have those guys fighting full contact in the karate combat cage. 0.93

01:29:16.000 So unfortunately it didn't happen.

01:29:19.000 So this dude, he went right into that kick and he lost because of that in 2020, which is insane.

01:29:27.000 I mean, it literally makes zero sense.

01:29:31.000 Insane.

01:29:32.000 Yeah, because he depped into it.

01:29:34.000 He bobbed into it.

01:29:35.000 It's 100% legal.

01:29:36.000 And look at this, he's got the COVID mask on too.

01:29:39.000 That's crazy. 1.00

01:29:41.000 Remember that crap? 1.00

01:29:42.000 We're never going to forget those stupid masks. 1.00

01:29:44.000 Oh, I was so happy we didn't do that with our gym. 1.00

01:29:47.000 I just taped everything off.

01:29:49.000 And then we just let everybody go on the backside.

01:29:53.000 And not one.

01:29:55.000 At COVID. Everybody's rolling in the gym.

01:29:58.000 Everybody's doing it.

01:29:59.000 Just be freaking healthy.

01:30:00.000 We were lied to.

01:30:02.000 It wasn't something that was terrifying and dangerous to fit people.

01:30:07.000 It just wasn't.

01:30:07.000 It was dangerous to people that already had comorbidities.

01:30:11.000 94% of the people that died had some massive comorbidity.

01:30:17.000 Multiple comorbidities for some of them.

01:30:19.000 It's just...

01:30:20.000 It was a strange time, and obviously there was a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on right now if you go and try to think about what should have been done or shouldn't have been done.

01:30:30.000 But most people that were healthy should have been left alone.

01:30:35.000 That's it, especially with the ventilator stuff.

01:30:37.000 There's a lot of people died there.

01:30:38.000 Oh, that was another report that just came out.

01:30:40.000 The people that died in the ventilators died from the ventilators, a giant percentage of them.

01:30:46.000 They shouldn't have been put on the ventilators, and this doctor was saying that they put people on the ventilators to protect the hospital staff and the doctors and the nurses, because these people had COVID, and they figured, well, let's just put them on a ventilator, and they didn't realize they were, like, destroying their lungs.

01:31:01.000 But how—I still, till this day, I can't get it, so there's a lot of people need to be in on it now, right?

01:31:05.000 Even the doctors— I don't think they were in on it.

01:31:08.000 I just think that they didn't know what was going on.

01:31:11.000 Brainwashing?

01:31:12.000 Yeah.

01:31:12.000 And then there was also people telling, you know, there was Fauci and all these people that were telling people that this was this horrible, devastating illness that was going to destroy everyone and no one was safe.

01:31:26.000 You have to get vaccinated.

01:31:27.000 No one's safe, which is crazy.

01:31:29.000 Yeah.

01:31:29.000 Did you get it?

01:31:31.000 No, no, no.

01:31:32.000 You never got COVID at all?

01:31:33.000 Oh, I got COVID, but I did Ivermectin and it was five days.

01:31:35.000 It was good.

01:31:36.000 I had no problem.

01:31:37.000 And I've been traveling.

01:31:38.000 We went to Budapest.

01:31:40.000 We did everything for the Karate Combat Shows.

01:31:43.000 I don't know if you ever saw the show with the background, with the people flying.

01:31:46.000 We go back in the future.

01:31:48.000 We go in the past.

01:31:49.000 We go to the roots of Okinawa.

01:31:52.000 It's all because of green screens that we had with the Unreal Engine, you know, that...

01:31:56.000 That they created and now it's live because in the beginning they couldn't do live shows with it.

01:32:01.000 So that's recently till like three years ago.

01:32:04.000 Now you can do it live like The Mandalorian, you know, Blade Runner.

01:32:08.000 They all use that, those movies.

01:32:10.000 And now that's the technology that Karate Combat uses and now it can be live.

01:32:14.000 So before it was...

01:32:16.000 Life to tape.

01:32:18.000 And everybody had to shut up.

01:32:20.000 Nobody could say if they won or lost.

01:32:21.000 They go, stop betting.

01:32:25.000 Well, there was definitely some MMA fights where the results were available, but the public didn't know about them and people bet on them.

01:32:36.000 Yeah.

01:32:37.000 Yeah.

01:32:38.000 I had heard about a bunch of those.

01:32:40.000 Oh, look at this.

01:32:41.000 Wow.

01:32:43.000 That's incredible.

01:32:45.000 That's amazing.

01:32:46.000 They did it all with a green screen.

01:32:48.000 Ah, they did it, man.

01:32:50.000 Wow.

01:32:50.000 We're doing a really good job.

01:32:53.000 How many events are you guys having a year?

01:32:55.000 Eight to ten this year now.

01:32:58.000 Yeah?

01:32:58.000 Yeah.

01:32:59.000 The chairman.

01:33:01.000 And then we have the vice president, Kovac, who used to be a gold medal winner in the Olympics, not the Olympics, on the World Championships in 2009, I believe.

01:33:09.000 And he's gathering everybody together.

01:33:11.000 But then you see that fight, you know, the Rafael Agaev, you know, for Raymond Daniels, it would suck, but it put freaking karate on the map. 0.57

01:33:18.000 Nobody would have expected that.

01:33:20.000 And the same what you saw with Joshua Craig getting knocked out by Ibrahim.

01:33:23.000 That was a guy who was only doing point fighting.

01:33:26.000 And now the guy that you just saw kicking the guy in the face, it was his very first full contact match.

01:33:31.000 The guy never fought full contact.

01:33:33.000 Oh wow, so he just came straight from point.

01:33:35.000 So these guys are doing freaking phenomenal, you know?

01:33:38.000 I always said that that was the one thing that was missing from MMA. Before Michael Venom Page entered, I was like...

01:33:45.000 A really elite point fighter, the way they can close distance is so different.

01:33:50.000 So badass.

01:33:52.000 It's incredible.

01:33:52.000 Their ability to blitz and leap forward, like those guys are so accustomed to doing that against other elite black belts, like fainting, fainting, fainting, and they dive in.

01:34:04.000 For a regular fighter, an MMA fighter, maybe a plotting kind of a guy, like they're sitting ducks.

01:34:10.000 But you can see, Wonderboy, Ryota Machina.

01:34:15.000 That's a different level, man.

01:34:16.000 White stance and it's still moving really agile. 0.99

01:34:20.000 How about Wonderboy still fucking winning? 0.99

01:34:22.000 Still winning. 0.99

01:34:23.000 He's 40 years old.

01:34:24.000 How old is Wonderboy?

01:34:25.000 Is he 40?

01:34:26.000 He's got to be 40. With the fact that he beat...

01:34:29.000 Kevin Holland, who's a motherfucker. 1.00

01:34:31.000 The way. 1.00

01:34:33.000 He was standing here and he finds a kick through the guard.

01:34:36.000 I mean, his timing is bizarre.

01:34:38.000 I just did a seminar with him and his father, Ray, in Kentucky.

01:34:43.000 Somerville, Kentucky.

01:34:45.000 They're good people, man.

01:34:46.000 He makes you feel good.

01:34:48.000 All the time.

01:34:49.000 Is he in North Carolina?

01:34:51.000 Is that where he is?

01:34:51.000 South.

01:34:52.000 South Carolina?

01:34:53.000 That's where he is now?

01:34:53.000 Yeah.

01:34:54.000 Yeah, those guys, man.

01:34:55.000 What Wonderboy...

01:34:56.000 First of all, Kevin Holland did the craziest thing in that fight.

01:34:59.000 He agreed to not go to the ground.

01:35:01.000 He was like, let's not go to the ground.

01:35:03.000 Let's just stand up and fight.

01:35:04.000 Like, okay, now he doesn't have to think about takedowns at all?

01:35:08.000 This is not what you want.

01:35:11.000 This is not what you want.

01:35:13.000 That was not a smart decision.

01:35:14.000 No.

01:35:15.000 There was Kevin Randleman to me in the elevator the day before the fight.

01:35:20.000 It opens up and I'm by myself and there he is.

01:35:24.000 And he gets in and the door closes and we can see each other's reflection.

01:35:28.000 Oh no!

01:35:29.000 And I go, what's up dude?

01:35:31.000 He goes, I'm doing good, I'm doing good.

01:35:32.000 He says, listen, if you promise to keep your feet on the ground, I won't take you down.

01:35:38.000 So if I wouldn't kick him, He would not take me down.

01:35:42.000 Wow.

01:35:43.000 I go, serious?

01:35:44.000 Yeah.

01:35:44.000 I go, huh?

01:35:45.000 I said, let me think about that because I'm just laughing and he's laughing.

01:35:48.000 So the elevator goes open and I say, okay, good luck tomorrow.

01:35:51.000 He goes, yeah, you two.

01:35:52.000 So the elevator closed. 0.76

01:35:53.000 So the first, we're in the fight and the first thing he does is slapping his thigh, like kick me.

01:35:58.000 And I go like, wait, wait, wait, wait, you just sat.

01:36:03.000 So my plan must not go and kick anyway.

01:36:06.000 Because against a wrestler like that, if I kick, he's going to grab my kick and that's it, right?

01:36:09.000 So as soon as he'd be invited, I thought, oh, I got you.

01:36:13.000 I'm going to act like I did a roundhouse kick and I'm going to turn it into a front kick. 0.88

01:36:17.000 So if he thinks it's a roundhouse kick and he's going to shoot in, I'm going to kick him straight on the face with the front kick, with my heel, fight's over, bada bing, bada boom, I won. 0.89

01:36:25.000 That was the game plan. 0.92

01:36:28.000 Didn't work out like that.

01:36:29.000 So as soon as I made the kick, he backed away.

01:36:31.000 And I go, wait...

01:36:33.000 He backs away from my kicks.

01:36:35.000 Let's start kicking.

01:36:36.000 And then the second kick actually took me down.

01:36:39.000 He set me up.

01:36:41.000 You won that fight primarily off your back.

01:36:44.000 Yeah, that's what Big John said.

01:36:47.000 Because you can't just lay on top of a guy and you are smashing with elbows and punches off of your back.

01:36:52.000 Yeah.

01:36:53.000 His son just won the Nevada Championship this weekend on Saturday Basketball.

01:36:58.000 Yeah, I was posting about that.

01:37:00.000 The basketball team.

01:37:01.000 So that was really cool.

01:37:02.000 Kevin Randleman was such a freak.

01:37:04.000 So athletic.

01:37:05.000 Wouldn't he have knocked out Mirko Krokop?

01:37:07.000 Dude. 0.98

01:37:08.000 Crazy!

01:37:09.000 And then, the second fight, right after that, he suplexes Fedor Emelianenko.

01:37:13.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:37:14.000 When is this going to happen?

01:37:16.000 Oh my god.

01:37:17.000 Yeah.

01:37:17.000 But Fedor, man.

01:37:19.000 The fact that seconds later, he catches him in an armbar.

01:37:21.000 Cheek.

01:37:23.000 Yeah, special guy.

01:37:25.000 Oh my god.

01:37:26.000 Fedor was, you know, when we look at GOATS... He's gotta be in there.

01:37:30.000 He's gotta be in there.

01:37:32.000 I think Jon Jones, if you want to say who's the best ever...

01:37:37.000 God, it's hard to argue with Jon Jones.

01:37:40.000 Never lost, beat everybody.

01:37:43.000 Fought everybody.

01:37:44.000 Yep.

01:37:44.000 Smashed everybody.

01:37:46.000 And then goes up to the heavyweight and makes it easy.

01:37:48.000 Yep.

01:37:49.000 I mean, obviously you can't do MMA math, but if you look at what Francis Ngannou had a long fight with Cyril Gann, and Jon Jones just took him apart instantaneously.

01:37:58.000 In seconds, yep.

01:37:59.000 You know? 0.76

01:37:59.000 He's an animal. 0.76

01:38:00.000 And he's...

01:38:03.000 Super talented.

01:38:04.000 This is a guy that if he stays straight, like on everything, also the outside fighting, you know, it's gonna be very hard to beat.

01:38:11.000 He's got no patterns.

01:38:12.000 He doesn't have any pattern.

01:38:14.000 It's constantly switching.

01:38:16.000 It's like hard to figure a guy like that out.

01:38:18.000 I was training him.

01:38:19.000 I was interviewing him before a fight in Albuquerque, and they flew me over for Inside MMA. And he says, what are you doing afterwards?

01:38:27.000 I said, I'll go to the hotel.

01:38:28.000 I'm gonna eat something.

01:38:29.000 He says, man, Can you train me for an hour?

01:38:31.000 I go, sure, yeah, I would love that.

01:38:33.000 So we're on the focus mids, and I let him hit the four shots, and he goes, toot, toot, toot.

01:38:37.000 I say, go faster, you're faster than this.

01:38:39.000 I go, pa, pa, pa.

01:38:40.000 I said, do it.

01:38:40.000 Go fast.

01:38:42.000 I said, just think this.

01:38:43.000 Just think that in your head.

01:38:46.000 And he goes, and he stops and he looks at me and goes like, dude!

01:38:51.000 I go, yeah, because this is how I work with sound effects.

01:38:53.000 If you keep them high paced, your body will automatically trigger and you're going to be that fast.

01:38:58.000 I go, dude!

01:38:59.000 So two weeks later, I have Greg Jackson on the show and he's walking in on the inside of me.

01:39:05.000 I go, Greg, what's up?

01:39:06.000 And he goes, I'm doing good.

01:39:07.000 He said, what have you been doing to the gym?

01:39:09.000 I go, what do you mean? 1.00

01:39:10.000 He says, everybody's making these stupid, crazy sound effects. 1.00

01:39:13.000 I say, are they faster and more explosive? 1.00

01:39:16.000 He goes, yeah.

01:39:17.000 I go, you're welcome, dude.

01:39:21.000 Where did that come from?

01:39:22.000 Is that something you just invented yourself?

01:39:24.000 I always did that.

01:39:26.000 You know, I put combination, only reload punches, there's a beat.

01:39:30.000 So if I say two and a cross hook, will be two, and then a cross hook.

01:39:34.000 So pa-pa, pa-pa.

01:39:35.000 That's the first, in my mind, it's already.

01:39:37.000 When I throw a combination, it's immediately identified with a pattern.

01:39:43.000 So with three shots, one, two, three, and then a lever shot cross, ta-ta-ta, ta-ta.

01:39:47.000 That's in my head right away.

01:39:48.000 Pa-pa-pow, pa-pow.

01:39:50.000 And I've always been doing that somehow.

01:39:52.000 It's really weird. 0.93

01:39:53.000 I got this crazy, crazy student. 0.51

01:39:56.000 He's the lead actor of Night Agent.

01:40:00.000 Did you hear about that new show on Netflix?

01:40:02.000 It broke the top five of higher viewers ever from the top five.

01:40:07.000 So it's big.

01:40:09.000 Gabriel Basso is his name.

01:40:11.000 And he's a great actor.

01:40:12.000 He was in Hillbilly Elegy.

01:40:14.000 He was one of the main guys there.

01:40:16.000 The story was about him. 0.99

01:40:17.000 But anyway, this guy is a freak. 0.71

01:40:20.000 Like he trained... 0.78

01:40:22.000 Two and a half months with us.

01:40:24.000 Yes, he had some experience before, but when you give him instructions, he immediately does it.

01:40:30.000 Kevin James is like one of those guys, but then this one is...

01:40:33.000 When I came home, my wife said, how is he?

01:40:34.000 I go, he's me, but way better than me.

01:40:37.000 And the way he hits, the first time I told him, when I saw him, I say, if you get in a street fight, do not hit the person in the head. 0.95

01:40:43.000 You're going to kill a guy. 0.50

01:40:44.000 I mean, that's how hard he hits. 1.00

01:40:46.000 185, he jacks my arms off.

01:40:48.000 It's like bizarre.

01:40:50.000 You know, but listening to instructions immediately does everything you say.

01:40:53.000 So he's on a movie set for 10 weeks and he calls me and says, hey, I'm gonna be home in between before I start shooting the movie, the Netflix show.

01:41:00.000 I have like 10 days, I wanna fight.

01:41:03.000 You've been training.

01:41:04.000 He said, a little bit on the back.

01:41:05.000 I go, you sure you want to do that?

01:41:06.000 He said, yeah, I just want to know how it feels.

01:41:08.000 I go, okay, so let me face some phone calls.

01:41:10.000 So I make a phone call.

01:41:11.000 I got in contact with George Francis.

01:41:12.000 He's owning a Thai boxing company.

01:41:15.000 And we find a guy for him.

01:41:17.000 He's 701. He's a tall guy, 6'5".

01:41:22.000 And I say, you want to do that?

01:41:23.000 He goes, yeah, yeah, sure.

01:41:24.000 And they're already asking me, are you sure?

01:41:26.000 Because he never fought.

01:41:27.000 I said, listen, man, the guy is a freak, but I don't know how he's going to perform under pressure, but that's always the big question mark.

01:41:33.000 But it looks to me, since he's an actor and since he's dealing with pressure the whole time, I think it's going to be okay.

01:41:40.000 But you never know.

01:41:42.000 But I think it will be okay.

01:41:47.000 This is the fight.

01:41:48.000 This is the fight, yeah.

01:41:49.000 So he comes up with this song. 1.00

01:41:51.000 The Atlantic Commission lady goes, that's a stupid song. 1.00

01:42:00.000 And he goes, hey, hey, while he's walking up, hey, hey, that's my song. 1.00

01:42:02.000 Don't talk bad about my song.

01:42:03.000 He's like, completely, like, whatever.

01:42:05.000 Just very relaxed.

01:42:07.000 Yeah, and I tell him, I say, what do I do?

01:42:08.000 I say, left hook to the head and across to the body. 0.90

01:42:12.000 Boom. 0.91

01:42:12.000 There's the liver shot starts. 0.91

01:42:16.000 This is just, this is the very first time that he fought, right?

01:42:19.000 So I... I stand and want you to throw a left hook to the head, who's undefeated, 7-0, left hook, and then he throws a left hook with a cross to the body.

01:42:32.000 And he comes from a movie set. 0.97

01:42:35.000 He didn't train a lick.

01:42:36.000 You gotta know that as well, right?

01:42:38.000 I mean, he hasn't been sparring, and in the second time of training, second day training, he broke his hand.

01:42:45.000 Hopefully he hurt his hand.

01:42:47.000 No, I want it to cross to the body.

01:42:52.000 It's coming, boom.

01:42:55.000 There we go.

01:42:56.000 There it is.

01:42:56.000 So now he gets an eight count, and he's looking at me, what do I do?

01:43:00.000 I go, do the same thing.

01:43:02.000 Who crossed to the body?

01:43:04.000 And then he just, once that connects, that guy afterwards went like that.

01:43:10.000 I've never been hit like this.

01:43:14.000 Boom.

01:43:14.000 It is funny how some people just have natural power.

01:43:17.000 It's very weird, isn't it?

01:43:19.000 Yeah, but also without, like I said, without training, never been in there, just wanted to do this.

01:43:25.000 I go, dude, are you sure?

01:43:26.000 And then his right hand, he hurts on the second day of training, which, by the way, he had only seven days.

01:43:33.000 There he goes.

01:43:34.000 Yeah, this is it.

01:43:35.000 Wow.

01:43:36.000 Just across to the body.

01:43:39.000 Power is a strange thing.

01:43:40.000 It's like you either have it or you do not have it.

01:43:43.000 He just did that.

01:43:44.000 I just saw him post yesterday something.

01:43:45.000 They have these bars that you grab with the fingers, you know, those flat things you have to pull up.

01:43:49.000 86 kilos he lifted.

01:43:52.000 Jesus.

01:43:53.000 So just with grip strength.

01:43:55.000 It's flat, the bar, right?

01:43:57.000 What is that, like 190 pounds?

01:43:58.000 What is 86 kilos?

01:44:00.000 Yeah, that's around that.

01:44:02.000 Jesus Christ.

01:44:03.000 That's crazy, right?

01:44:03.000 That's crazy.

01:44:04.000 He just does it. 0.95

01:44:05.000 And then he's a drummer, and then a crazy drummer.

01:44:08.000 Then he's an artist.

01:44:09.000 He makes drawings.

01:44:10.000 Well, his agency gets a phone call from some art gallery saying that he could be the next big thing.

01:44:16.000 Wow.

01:44:17.000 So he's just a guy who could do anything.

01:44:18.000 He can do anything.

01:44:19.000 Wow.

01:44:21.000 There's people like that out there.

01:44:22.000 Oh yeah, and a bunch of them that we don't even know.

01:44:25.000 Yeah, I know.

01:44:26.000 That's what's wild.

01:44:28.000 Well, that's where a guy like Houston Alexander just slips in the mix and knocks out Keith Jardine.

01:44:33.000 There's a lot of those guys out there.

01:44:35.000 There's guys out there.

01:44:36.000 There's freaks out there.

01:44:38.000 Yeah.

01:44:39.000 Is that a great thing about life?

01:44:40.000 It is a great thing about life.

01:44:42.000 It's an interesting thing about life, though.

01:44:44.000 You would never imagine, you know, you'd never imagine that certain people have certain skills or that certain people just, they have an ability to learn things.

01:44:52.000 Do you believe, you have to, right?

01:44:54.000 The aliens are already living among us, right?

01:44:57.000 Aliens?

01:44:57.000 Now we're talking, boss.

01:44:59.000 Yeah.

01:44:59.000 Now you're talking my language.

01:45:00.000 No, but why can't they... 0.78

01:45:03.000 Like freaking Yoel Romero.

01:45:05.000 You're talking about that, right? 0.97

01:45:06.000 Three times bigger freaking things. 0.83

01:45:09.000 I don't think he's an alien.

01:45:10.000 I think he's a product of a sports program that's very elite.

01:45:16.000 Also, there's genetics.

01:45:18.000 There's incredible training.

01:45:20.000 There's a lot going on, but I don't think the aliens are even remotely interested in fighting.

01:45:23.000 No, no.

01:45:25.000 I'm not saying that, but if they live among us, there's got to be freaks, right?

01:45:30.000 But they cannot expose themselves.

01:45:32.000 Right?

01:45:33.000 Because otherwise everybody would know.

01:45:35.000 Maybe that's Jon Jones' secret.

01:45:37.000 Maybe he's an alien.

01:45:37.000 Yeah, got us.

01:45:39.000 Maybe Mighty Mouse is an alien too.

01:45:40.000 Yeah.

01:45:41.000 I don't think so.

01:45:42.000 I think if there are aliens amongst us, they're watching us to make sure we don't blow ourselves up.

01:45:48.000 That's 100%, yeah.

01:45:50.000 But that's why they hang out at the...

01:45:52.000 Nuclear sites a lot, right?

01:45:54.000 Yeah, I've had so many conversations with people that are...

01:45:56.000 Yeah, Ryan Graves.

01:45:58.000 That was a nice interview.

01:45:59.000 Very interesting, right?

01:46:00.000 But the cool thing was, you know, because that's when I put it together with Mr. Kakuta that you had also, but...

01:46:05.000 They were talking about when they would arrive.

01:46:08.000 The aliens were already waiting for them.

01:46:09.000 They knew exactly where they were going to go.

01:46:12.000 And I go, that's quantum computers.

01:46:14.000 He was talking about that.

01:46:15.000 There's no more secrets.

01:46:16.000 Yes.

01:46:16.000 You see?

01:46:17.000 So they're already way ahead.

01:46:19.000 I mean, if they're just a thousand years more advanced than us, just a thousand.

01:46:22.000 Yeah.

01:46:23.000 Oh.

01:46:23.000 Impossible to understand what they're capable of.

01:46:26.000 And now maybe a million years.

01:46:27.000 Imagine if they're a million years more advanced.

01:46:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:46:29.000 No, that's what I tell people.

01:46:31.000 We, our age, we saw every...

01:46:33.000 I saw our TV change from black and white to color.

01:46:36.000 Yes.

01:46:37.000 From 12 channels, you have to press the button and it turns orange, like click, click, you know, 12 buttons.

01:46:43.000 Yeah.

01:46:43.000 That was it.

01:46:44.000 Remote control.

01:46:45.000 Oh my god!

01:46:46.000 And then we would go out.

01:46:47.000 It was pretty much universal.

01:46:49.000 We would go to other people on the outside, you know, they're watching TV and we would change the channel and we thought it was hilarious and I just started hitting the TV. And then the phones and the cell phones.

01:47:01.000 I remember the first time there was an answering machine.

01:47:03.000 I was like, this is the craziest thing.

01:47:05.000 You can call someone and leave a message.

01:47:07.000 This is nuts.

01:47:09.000 I had a voice dialer.

01:47:12.000 You know, there's things you say, home, and then you hold it against the phone, and then it was called.

01:47:17.000 My buddy's going like, oh my god.

01:47:18.000 I said, they're going to have this in phones.

01:47:19.000 He goes, no!

01:47:21.000 They're going to be phones without a wire 100%.

01:47:24.000 I said, they're going to have this in there.

01:47:26.000 I guarantee you that.

01:47:26.000 There has to be.

01:47:28.000 It's crazy.

01:47:30.000 What we're experiencing now is probably the biggest change in human civilization that the world has ever seen.

01:47:36.000 And it's happening right in front of us, just with the internet and then with social media and smartphones and all these things that have happened since the early 1990s to what we're experiencing now.

01:47:48.000 I remember when I first came to Hollywood in 1994, I got a computer.

01:47:51.000 My friend Robbie took me to CompUSA.

01:47:54.000 Remember CompUSA?

01:47:55.000 And I had a computer and a dial-up modem.

01:48:00.000 It was a 14-4 modem.

01:48:01.000 It took forever just to download text.

01:48:06.000 Just to watch text.

01:48:07.000 But I was like, this is insane.

01:48:10.000 This is insane.

01:48:11.000 We had the Commodore 64. 64 stood for 64,000 kilobytes.

01:48:17.000 That was it.

01:48:18.000 Played everything on it.

01:48:19.000 Freaking Tetris.

01:48:20.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:48:21.000 That's not even a picture on a freaking phone right now. 0.73

01:48:24.000 I know.

01:48:24.000 It's nothing.

01:48:25.000 It's crazy.

01:48:26.000 It's crazy.

01:48:26.000 You know, I remember in also 94, 95, I was, Murray Smith was fighting for Pancras and we came in his hotel room and he had speakers in every corner and he had a computer.

01:48:38.000 And I go, what's that?

01:48:39.000 He goes, it's a computer.

01:48:39.000 He says, it's going to be right now in 10 years.

01:48:41.000 It's going to be the biggest thing ever.

01:48:43.000 I go, that thing?

01:48:44.000 He goes, just mark my words.

01:48:46.000 Wow.

01:48:46.000 He was right.

01:48:47.000 He was right.

01:48:48.000 He had speakers in his hotel room?

01:48:50.000 Yeah.

01:48:50.000 He had like connected speakers, like in every corner he had a speaker, so he had a good sound system in his hotel room.

01:48:56.000 Yeah.

01:48:56.000 It's funny.

01:48:57.000 You know what I had?

01:48:58.000 Pelagons with targets everywhere.

01:49:00.000 That's my hotel room.

01:49:02.000 Oh yeah, in Japan, you can buy these Glock.

01:49:05.000 When I traveled to Holland, they stopped me and they go, boss?

01:49:09.000 He says, this is the real one.

01:49:12.000 And they put my Glock 17 next to it.

01:49:14.000 They go, okay, yeah.

01:49:16.000 Exactly the same.

01:49:17.000 Especially because it's ceramic.

01:49:19.000 It's also plastic.

01:49:21.000 But I was really good with them because they always ask me, why did you learn how to shoot?

01:49:24.000 I go, that's a little it.

01:49:26.000 In Japan, I would just shoot Little targets.

01:49:29.000 We would shoot each other on the street, the guys, the fighters. 0.82

01:49:32.000 We were only allowed to shoot each other. 0.99

01:49:34.000 And below the waist, below the waist. 0.99

01:49:36.000 Oh, God. 1.00

01:49:37.000 If you imagine playing video games, you'd shoot yourself in a dick with a pellet gun? 1.00

01:49:41.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:49:41.000 Those were fucking powerful, too, man. 1.00

01:49:43.000 Those were okay. 1.00

01:49:44.000 They were like little plastic balls.

01:49:46.000 Did you see the guy, the samurai guy on, what is it, Stan Lee's Superhumans? 0.61

01:49:52.000 You saw the show, right?

01:49:53.000 Where they shoot the pellet gun at him, and with the samurai sword, he cuts it in half?

01:49:58.000 Wow, really?

01:49:59.000 Yeah, you see that in slow motion.

01:50:01.000 I think it's 500 feet a second, the gun shoots, and he's just standing with his sword.

01:50:08.000 And as soon as the guy shoots, you see him cutting it, and he freaking hits the pallet.

01:50:13.000 You look it up.

01:50:14.000 Okay, we'll find that.

01:50:15.000 Yeah.

01:50:17.000 Oh, look at this!

01:50:18.000 There we go.

01:50:21.000 That's insane.

01:50:22.000 How crazy is that?

01:50:23.000 That is insane.

01:50:28.000 By the time they moved the sword into position, the pellet would have traveled past them.

01:50:34.000 Wow.

01:50:35.000 And then he finds the pellet sliced in half.

01:50:40.000 Dude.

01:50:41.000 Yeah, there's people like that out there.

01:50:44.000 Practice over and over and over and over again.

01:50:47.000 There's this guy who comes to pick somebody up for an interview, and he's on a tandem, and he's blind.

01:50:53.000 What?

01:50:54.000 And he picks the interviewee up, the Stanley Superior.

01:50:57.000 You go...

01:50:58.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:59.000 Echo location.

01:51:00.000 Yeah.

01:51:01.000 And they bring him to a different city so he doesn't know anything.

01:51:05.000 They put him in the front of a phone booth.

01:51:07.000 And I'm not talking a phone booth.

01:51:09.000 You open up and you see the phone.

01:51:10.000 He goes, that's a phone.

01:51:12.000 I go, okay.

01:51:14.000 That's a car.

01:51:15.000 That's a trash can.

01:51:16.000 That's a smaller car.

01:51:18.000 Wow.

01:51:19.000 Yeah, just by making sounds.

01:51:21.000 Dude, so people out there, man, I love that kind of stuff.

01:51:25.000 Putting plates to your head, did you see that?

01:51:28.000 Ceramic, anything.

01:51:29.000 Doesn't need to be metal, wood.

01:51:32.000 With his mind, he can rap.

01:51:35.000 Grab anything and attach it to his head.

01:51:38.000 What?

01:51:38.000 Yeah, it's also Stan Lee's.

01:51:40.000 How?

01:51:41.000 He said his mind will trap it, and then he does it with ceramic plates. 0.99

01:51:46.000 It stays, it sticks to his freaking forehead. 0.98

01:51:49.000 It's not a trick? 0.99

01:51:50.000 It's not a trick.

01:51:51.000 No, scientists are literally going after him.

01:51:55.000 But that's the same with Joel, Joel, Joel...

01:51:57.000 What's his name?

01:51:59.000 Greenstein?

01:52:00.000 Did you ever hear about him?

01:52:01.000 Oh, dude.

01:52:02.000 The Mighty Adam?

01:52:04.000 No.

01:52:05.000 You never heard about the Mighty Adam?

01:52:06.000 No.

01:52:07.000 Hallelujah, man, this guy.

01:52:10.000 130 pounds, strongest man in the world.

01:52:14.000 People go, yeah, right.

01:52:16.000 Six of 12 pennies, he'll bite in half, bite straight through.

01:52:19.000 You go, nah, that's not true.

01:52:20.000 No, no, no.

01:52:21.000 He has dentists and doctors.

01:52:28.000 They're writing journals about this guy because it's impossible what he's doing.

01:52:32.000 You give him a horseshoe and he says, what size, what form you want to have it?

01:52:36.000 The question mark, he goes, he says he becomes one with it.

01:52:39.000 He says, I just become one with the metal.

01:52:41.000 He just bends it in front of you.

01:52:42.000 What is his name?

01:52:44.000 Joel Greenstein, the mighty Adam.

01:52:49.000 So what is this from?

01:52:50.000 He stopped the plane.

01:52:52.000 1928?

01:52:53.000 Yeah, around, yeah.

01:52:57.000 He's fighting.

01:52:58.000 This is in the time when the Nazis came and the propaganda, and this was in New York.

01:53:02.000 And there's this article about him, a newspaper article that the police says, we came there to save the crowd from him, not to save him from the crowd, because he was tearing those Nazis a new one. 0.51

01:53:14.000 Wow.

01:53:15.000 Good.

01:53:16.000 Started wrestling and left Poland for the United States.

01:53:19.000 Yeah, I'm going to try to find it.

01:53:20.000 It's just a bunch of articles about him.

01:53:22.000 He bit through nails, broke chains, and held down an airplane with his hair.

01:53:26.000 Yeah.

01:53:27.000 Some other guy tried it. 0.67

01:53:28.000 He freaking died.

01:53:30.000 He was assaulted by six men, sent them all to the hospital. 0.99

01:53:33.000 Single-handedly beat up 20 Nazi sympathizers.

01:53:36.000 Wow. 0.92

01:53:37.000 Dude, they shot him in his forehead like a.22 because the guy was in love with his wife and he wanted his wife.

01:53:44.000 It didn't penetrate the skull.

01:53:46.000 Jesus Christ.

01:53:47.000 So here he is.

01:53:48.000 This is at the very...

01:53:51.000 What's he doing here?

01:53:52.000 I don't know.

01:53:53.000 He's going to do something.

01:53:54.000 have audio.

01:53:56.000 I think the mayor is to the lumber.

01:54:04.000 Let's examine it.

01:54:06.000 He used his hand to put the nail in wood.

01:54:09.000 Whoa.

01:54:13.000 Watch this.

01:54:15.000 He's bending nails with his teeth.

01:54:17.000 He bites through him.

01:54:19.000 Look. 1.00

01:54:22.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:54:26.000 Dude, I read his book. 1.00

01:54:27.000 It's exactly the same as I said.

01:54:29.000 Clean living.

01:54:29.000 No smoking.

01:54:30.000 No alcohol.

01:54:32.000 No squandering your life nights by playing cards in stuffy rooms.

01:54:37.000 And keep oxygen out of your lungs.

01:54:40.000 And inhale monoxide and dioxide and get cancer of the lungs and also weak heart and heart attack and kaput.

01:54:50.000 Whoa.

01:54:50.000 Weird.

01:54:52.000 Dude, his book, it's insanity.

01:54:54.000 You go like, there's no way this is possible.

01:54:56.000 And they go to a dentist and he checks out his teeth and while he's doing it, he bites the metal thing that is in his mouth, bites it in half.

01:55:04.000 And the guy writes about that.

01:55:08.000 What are you going to do against a guy like this?

01:55:10.000 135 pounds.

01:55:12.000 Well, there's people that are just built different, right?

01:55:14.000 Yeah.

01:55:14.000 I mean, you've got to think.

01:55:15.000 There's guys with big noses, little noses, guys with little dicks, giant dicks. 0.99

01:55:19.000 People that are built different. 0.99

01:55:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:55:20.000 There's a big spectrum of how people are built.

01:55:24.000 I like how you go from gnosis to dicks. 0.96

01:55:27.000 That's what it is, right? 1.00

01:55:28.000 It's like big brains, small brains.

01:55:30.000 Some people's brains work great. 1.00

01:55:31.000 Some people's brains are just like dog shit. 1.00

01:55:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:55:35.000 I mean, that's a weird thing, you know, going back to power.

01:55:39.000 Like, why people have power.

01:55:41.000 Like, you can't predict. 0.99

01:55:43.000 You get a guy who's like first day of classes, and you have him hit a heavy bag, and you just go, Jesus Christ, what the fuck is he doing? 0.98

01:55:53.000 How can he do it? 0.84

01:55:54.000 And then you have someone who looks athletic, and you have them do it, and they just can't generate any power.

01:55:59.000 It's very strange.

01:56:00.000 You saw that guy who goes dressed up as the maintenance guy to these big gyms, and he's like a world champion powerlifting, but he dresses up like he's a guy who just works there.

01:56:10.000 No.

01:56:11.000 And he starts telling, oh, this is hilarious.

01:56:13.000 These bodybuilders, these big giant guys.

01:56:14.000 He says, you do it wrong.

01:56:16.000 You should do it like this.

01:56:17.000 They go, dude, you work here, man.

01:56:19.000 Look at me.

01:56:19.000 Look at this muscle.

01:56:20.000 And then the little guy just starts bench pressing with their weight.

01:56:23.000 What's this guy?

01:56:24.000 That little guy?

01:56:25.000 Yeah, I've seen those videos.

01:56:26.000 Oh, so he's wearing that outfit to kind of hide his physique.

01:56:29.000 Yeah.

01:56:30.000 Happy life, you know.

01:56:32.000 These guys. - For abs training, yo.

01:56:42.000 Yes, you can touch me too.

01:56:43.000 What's up, guys?

01:56:46.000 Welcome to my channel.

01:56:47.000 This is Anatoly on YouTube.

01:56:50.000 I didn't know he had a big YouTube channel.

01:56:53.000 So he's a big-time power lifter.

01:56:55.000 Oh, yeah.

01:56:56.000 And there's nobody stronger in the world than power lifters.

01:56:59.000 Just doing those cleans and presses and the full body exercises.

01:57:05.000 And he's doing it with slides on.

01:57:11.000 It's fine.

01:57:12.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:57:14.000 I'll tell people their form's bad.

01:57:16.000 It's my favorite.

01:57:18.000 He's doing hammer curls with 100-pound dumbbells.

01:57:22.000 Look at that guy!

01:57:24.000 Look at how the bar is bending.

01:57:27.000 That's insane!

01:57:30.000 Anatoly on YouTube.

01:57:32.000 He's got 16 million views.

01:57:35.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:57:36.000 On that video, yeah.

01:57:37.000 Jesus, 1.86 million subscribers and 16 million views on that video.

01:57:42.000 That's nuts.

01:57:44.000 You see guys like that.

01:57:45.000 Yeah, there's guys out there.

01:57:46.000 Yeah.

01:57:47.000 And you got to watch out.

01:57:48.000 Because you haven't been fighting as well.

01:57:50.000 And then you're making a statement against the wrong guy, right?

01:57:53.000 Chris Horideski.

01:57:55.000 Imagine that guy on the street.

01:57:56.000 Hey, babyface.

01:57:57.000 You want to go?

01:58:01.000 Horideski was a perfect example, right?

01:58:04.000 He was such a cute guy.

01:58:06.000 He went to the International Fight League.

01:58:08.000 Remember that organization?

01:58:10.000 That was one of the coaches there.

01:58:11.000 Sean Tompkins.

01:58:13.000 He said, watch him.

01:58:16.000 And he fought a guy from Hansel Grace's team.

01:58:19.000 And I go, dude, he's a kid.

01:58:20.000 He says, just watch him.

01:58:21.000 He was like 18 at the time, right?

01:58:22.000 Oh, yeah.

01:58:23.000 And he just annihilates the guy.

01:58:25.000 He became an instant favorite because of the babyface, you know? 1.00

01:58:30.000 But just a freaking killer. 0.97

01:58:32.000 When you see a guy like that, you wonder, like, he was so young when he fought in the UFC. I wonder, like, maybe if he got One of the problems with joining something like the UFC is that you are in with the elite of the elite, and if you keep winning, you can only win so many times before you're going to fight someone who's a motherfucker. 1.00

01:59:01.000 And if you're 20 years old, unless you're Jon Jones, who fights Shogun for his, you know, he's 22 years old, he wins the world title, becomes the youngest ever UFC champion. 0.93

01:59:12.000 But that's so rare.

01:59:13.000 That's one.

01:59:14.000 So many guys get ruined because they weren't really quite ready for that level.

01:59:19.000 And unlike boxing, where they'll get you ready for that by exposing you to different styles, exposing you to, you know, this guy's long and lanky, this guy's a body puncher.

01:59:32.000 It's egos and it's managers.

01:59:34.000 Are you listening to your manager and if he's a good manager for you, he will do it the right way.

01:59:39.000 Right.

01:59:40.000 But otherwise, if they look at the big money, like all these guys in Japan, they go, I can fight Shakuraba for like $100,000.

01:59:46.000 They go, if you lose horribly, you'll never be back.

01:59:48.000 Just know that.

01:59:49.000 Yes.

01:59:50.000 Yes.

01:59:51.000 If you get a guy to, like, imagine if you were training today, training people today, and you got a young guy.

01:59:58.000 Would you want him to fight?

01:59:59.000 Here's the other problem.

02:00:00.000 If you want him to fight in other organizations, boy, there's some murderers in these other organizations that people don't even know about.

02:00:06.000 These assassins.

02:00:08.000 I'm sure the PFL has them.

02:00:09.000 I know Bellator has them.

02:00:11.000 I know 1FC has them.

02:00:12.000 I mean, there's some stone-cold killers over there.

02:00:15.000 Just fighting a lot.

02:00:16.000 That's what I say.

02:00:17.000 And for the pressure in the beginning, don't tell anybody you're going to fight.

02:00:20.000 Do it out of state.

02:00:21.000 So then if you lose, you don't even have to tell people.

02:00:24.000 If you win, you can say, hey, I just fought and I won.

02:00:27.000 I think that's the best way because I think it's very hard for a fighter right now with all the pressure on the social media.

02:00:33.000 They don't fight for themselves.

02:00:35.000 They fight for the people.

02:00:37.000 And I think that's a big problem to have.

02:00:39.000 You don't need to... 0.98

02:00:42.000 Don't give a crap about anybody. 0.98

02:00:44.000 If you just care about yourself, only in fighting, of course. 0.99

02:00:47.000 You don't want to be a douche.

02:00:48.000 But if you really mastered that, and I think that I, at that time, that was it.

02:00:53.000 People say, why do you think it works?

02:00:55.000 I say, because I fight for me.

02:00:56.000 Yeah, but for your family.

02:00:57.000 I go, no.

02:00:58.000 Not for your family.

02:00:59.000 I said, no, because that's too much pressure on me. 0.98

02:01:01.000 If I fight for me, and I just only about me, I don't give a crap. 0.96

02:01:05.000 And that means I will fight at my best.

02:01:06.000 And once I fight at my best, chances I'm going to win is very high.

02:01:09.000 And then my family automatically is going to be taken care of, right?

02:01:12.000 Right.

02:01:12.000 So once you start putting, oh, I got to win this because otherwise I can't do this or can't do that, that's a bad one.

02:01:18.000 Well, it's not a good thing to focus on.

02:01:20.000 The best thing to focus on is your performance.

02:01:22.000 Focus on fighting, focus on technique, focus on, yeah.

02:01:26.000 The flow!

02:01:26.000 It's everything!

02:01:27.000 Where did you develop this mindset?

02:01:30.000 Did you figure it out on your own?

02:01:31.000 Did you learn any of it from other people?

02:01:33.000 Well, I absolutely didn't have it in Thai boxing.

02:01:37.000 Like, they always thought, oh, this is a great kickboxer from Holland.

02:01:39.000 Yeah, I knocked a lot of people out, but it wasn't pretty.

02:01:42.000 I was just very blessed with genetics, but I was the dojo fighter, so I was really good in the dojo, but I couldn't put that same game under pressure yet.

02:01:52.000 And that changed the first fight in Japan.

02:01:56.000 I was a hothead.

02:02:00.000 I had nine knockouts, eight in the first round, one in the second.

02:02:04.000 That was all knockouts, and that was in Thai boxing.

02:02:07.000 And I realized if I go to Japan on the day of the fight, I found out he was 32 pounds heavier than I was.

02:02:14.000 I didn't know there was no weight classes.

02:02:16.000 And then I found out there was only one round, but it was 30 minutes.

02:02:20.000 I go, shoot.

02:02:22.000 So I figured that if I explode in the first three minutes and I can't put him away, well, I got 27 more minutes to go.

02:02:29.000 So maybe I got to calm down.

02:02:30.000 That's when the R started coming on my hand from relax.

02:02:33.000 Coincidentally, rustig.

02:02:35.000 That's the Dutch word for it.

02:02:37.000 And I remember my very first fight.

02:02:39.000 Tell people what we're talking about, because you talked about it in the other podcast, but you used to write an R on your hand.

02:02:45.000 But it coincidentally starts, the words are the same, relax.

02:02:50.000 And I just, because at my corner, I never had a coach.

02:02:53.000 I trained myself.

02:02:54.000 So if I would get hit, the only thing they shout, stay calm, stay calm, because I'm a hothead.

02:02:58.000 I want to break right away.

02:03:00.000 And I remember the very first time, it was...

02:03:05.000 It was the wildest.

02:03:07.000 It's almost like I had two voices.

02:03:10.000 One is the voice who wants to finish it, finish it, go in for the kill. 0.98

02:03:14.000 And the other one says, take your time, take your life.

02:03:16.000 And there was this thing that happened.

02:03:17.000 First of all, I started fighting and I heard everybody speaking.

02:03:20.000 The American people who were sitting there, I knew what they were talking about.

02:03:24.000 Which was weird already.

02:03:25.000 Just before the fight.

02:03:26.000 This is like literally standing up for my opponent.

02:03:28.000 Why would I hear all these people?

02:03:30.000 And then we started fighting. 0.99

02:03:32.000 And the first thing that happens, I kick him in the head. 0.93

02:03:34.000 And as soon as I plant my foot, I blast forward. 0.96

02:03:37.000 And he was 6'3", so I hit him with a palm strike, knocked him out.

02:03:40.000 He's on the ground.

02:03:42.000 Now the crazy stuff happened.

02:03:44.000 So I want to run because it was an eighth count.

02:03:46.000 I want to run to my corner because once I'm in the corner, that means I give him less rest, right?

02:03:50.000 That's when they start counting.

02:03:52.000 But something in me told me not to do that.

02:03:55.000 And this is really wild because it was almost like I wasn't in control of that.

02:04:00.000 So I wanted to go to the corner and then this person said to me because I saw his eyes were open.

02:04:05.000 He says, no, it was way more important to step there, give him a beat, look at him, and then turn around, walk very slowly to your corner.

02:04:15.000 Because somehow, this is what the guys, this is what I got, that will be way more intimidating for him than for me running to the corner.

02:04:24.000 Right.

02:04:24.000 And it blew me.

02:04:25.000 While I'm walking back, I'm thinking, go faster, go faster.

02:04:28.000 And it's, no, just go calm.

02:04:29.000 And then you see me hanging like this.

02:04:31.000 But you're your own coach.

02:04:32.000 It was the wildest crazy.

02:04:33.000 It was flicking all over the place.

02:04:35.000 And then that one person, whoever it was, said today, stay calm, stay calm.

02:04:39.000 We're just relaxing.

02:04:40.000 And I'm like, you see me hanging like nothing.

02:04:42.000 It's all an act.

02:04:43.000 If you pull the fight up, it's like, because I want to run to the corner.

02:04:46.000 And then I just look at him, give him a beat.

02:04:48.000 And I walk very slow.

02:04:50.000 But like I'm saying, there was this inner thing going on.

02:04:52.000 It was just bizarre.

02:04:54.000 And that was it.

02:04:55.000 And then from that moment on, every fight I was like, wow, I even felt better than in training.

02:05:00.000 Because everything would slow down.

02:05:02.000 It was an experience.

02:05:03.000 It's interesting how sometimes a very high pressure moment will open up like a new level of your ability.

02:05:10.000 That's it.

02:05:12.000 Yeah.

02:05:13.000 The bubble.

02:05:13.000 That's what I call it.

02:05:14.000 I'm in the bubble and it's like, I only allow the things that I want to come in, I allow.

02:05:19.000 And for the rest that I don't need, I'm not.

02:05:22.000 It's the most peaceful...

02:05:24.000 Feeling, and now I know why.

02:05:25.000 I read, you know, the Stolen Focus book for Johan Hari.

02:05:28.000 You know, that's a really good book.

02:05:30.000 And he says, you know, it's because in fighting, my mind would be calm.

02:05:34.000 Because my ADD, I'm all over the place.

02:05:37.000 I have six conversations going on while I'm talking to you.

02:05:40.000 I mean, it goes really, it's very hard to control.

02:05:43.000 But in fighting, or in training really hard sparring, it's completely...

02:05:47.000 That's gone.

02:05:48.000 I got one focus.

02:05:49.000 Because if I don't focus, I'm gonna get knocked out.

02:05:51.000 So fighting to me was always a very comfort thing to do.

02:05:55.000 It was so relaxed because peace finally in my head.

02:06:00.000 Yeah, that's it.

02:06:01.000 And then I used the ADD just for my workouts to go crazier and crazier.

02:06:06.000 Then again, you know, it's great to have, but once you stop fighting, that's the trap, right?

02:06:11.000 Now we're going to replace that good feeling, and it's probably alcohol or drugs, and that's when everybody goes down, including me.

02:06:16.000 Yeah.

02:06:18.000 For so many fighters, it's very difficult to find your identity after you fight, because fighting is your whole thing.

02:06:25.000 It's the only thing.

02:06:26.000 It's everything.

02:06:27.000 And the only thing also, that's the problem.

02:06:29.000 You don't branch out.

02:06:31.000 Or you have other fighters who start already branching out before they're a champion.

02:06:35.000 I say, don't do that.

02:06:37.000 Focus on that first.

02:06:38.000 Because everything else, once you start losing, they will be gone.

02:06:42.000 Yes.

02:06:43.000 First, what made you really good?

02:06:45.000 Focus on that.

02:06:46.000 And once that career is over, go to the next career.

02:06:48.000 I'm not saying like when I came to America, I started acting within three months.

02:06:52.000 I started taking acting classes because I knew eventually...

02:06:56.000 I was going to need that.

02:06:58.000 So I thought maybe it's better to be prepared for that, but just didn't say to anybody.

02:07:04.000 Yeah.

02:07:05.000 The transition is very hard for almost everybody because fighting requires so much of you.

02:07:13.000 I mean, especially when you're fighting the UFC, you're training probably at least twice a day, you're involved in recovery, you're monitoring your food, you're doing all sorts of different things to try to keep your body healthy, massage and saunas and all that jazz.

02:07:29.000 And then it's over.

02:07:31.000 And then you're 35, 36 years old, and you realize, like, I can't do this anymore.

02:07:36.000 What am I going to do?

02:07:37.000 What do I do?

02:07:38.000 And it's one of the things I admire the most about Khabib.

02:07:42.000 He just said, that's it.

02:07:43.000 I'm done.

02:07:44.000 I'm at the top of the game.

02:07:45.000 My mother doesn't want me to fight anymore.

02:07:47.000 Amazing.

02:07:49.000 Undefeated.

02:07:50.000 Just says, I'm done.

02:07:51.000 That's it.

02:07:52.000 And he could be the only one.

02:07:54.000 And 50 years from now, who did that?

02:07:56.000 Smart.

02:07:57.000 Yeah, there's very few guys, I mean, that have ever done that.

02:08:00.000 I mean, in boxing, it's Andre Ward, you know, retires at the peak.

02:08:04.000 And, you know, when Canelo Alvarez knocked out Kovalev, they offered him Canelo Alvarez.

02:08:10.000 And it was quite a bit of money.

02:08:12.000 And Andre Ward, who's a brilliant man, said, I think I serve boxing better by retiring.

02:08:18.000 Good for him.

02:08:19.000 By staying retired, being a commentator.

02:08:22.000 You know, he's a guy that fought most of his career with one arm.

02:08:25.000 Do you know the story about Andre Ward?

02:08:27.000 Andre Ward tore his shoulder apart when he was very young, and they didn't do surgery on it.

02:08:34.000 And so because they didn't do surgery on it, it never got better.

02:08:37.000 And so he didn't get surgery until he was a world champion. 0.97

02:08:40.000 And his shoulder was fucked up. 0.96

02:08:42.000 Like, he really beat everybody. 0.99

02:08:43.000 Carl Frotch, he beat all those guys with one arm.

02:08:46.000 Jeez. 1.00

02:08:46.000 Just fucking left hooks and jabs, and he occasionally threw a right hand, but his shoulder was so fucked up. 1.00

02:08:52.000 I think one of his major, one of the major tendons was detached. 0.99

02:08:58.000 So, like, the shoulder was, like, barely there.

02:09:01.000 Sort of like T.J. Dillashaw in his last fight. 0.98

02:09:05.000 T.J. Dillashaw's had fucked up shoulders forever. 0.98

02:09:07.000 Oh yeah, for a long time. 0.99

02:09:08.000 Forever.

02:09:08.000 Yep.

02:09:09.000 Yeah, but you think so his opponents didn't know at all that was the best capped secret?

02:09:13.000 I don't think people knew.

02:09:15.000 You see, because that's very important.

02:09:17.000 Because if people would know, you see how they changed the game immediately.

02:09:21.000 But it's wild how that goes, you see, just by knowing that.

02:09:24.000 But then again, you have other people like freaking Ronda Rousey that, oh, what's she going to do? 1.00

02:09:28.000 Arm bar me.

02:09:29.000 Yeah.

02:09:30.000 Okay, good luck in stopping it.

02:09:31.000 Right.

02:09:32.000 Doing it again, doing it again, doing it again.

02:09:33.000 They're so good at one thing that you know it's gonna happen, but you can't stop it.

02:09:39.000 Like Petsch in Glory, throws that left kick.

02:09:41.000 There you go.

02:09:42.000 Yeah.

02:09:43.000 Yeah, there's guys that are like that that just have this one thing.

02:09:46.000 Paul Sass used to fight in the UFC and he triangled everybody.

02:09:49.000 He was always triangles.

02:09:50.000 He's always won by...

02:09:51.000 Maybe he won a couple of times by leg lock, I think.

02:09:54.000 But his whole thing was triangles.

02:09:56.000 Everybody had to stay away from his triangle.

02:09:57.000 And it's like...

02:09:59.000 How is this guy gonna beat everybody with a triangle?

02:10:01.000 He figured it out.

02:10:02.000 Paul Yaris.

02:10:03.000 Yeah, Paul Harris.

02:10:06.000 Yeah, unfortunately for that guy, though, he didn't want to let go.

02:10:08.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:10:09.000 He's a crazy guy. 0.99

02:10:10.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:10:11.000 Against Jake Shields.

02:10:12.000 You start hitting him.

02:10:13.000 Yeah.

02:10:14.000 Yeah, because he's got a lot of power as well.

02:10:15.000 Oh, he's a tank.

02:10:17.000 Yeah.

02:10:17.000 I mean, he was like 5'7", 185 pounds.

02:10:19.000 Just like fucking... 0.99

02:10:21.000 And it's crazy, when you talk to him, it's very soft-spoken. 1.00

02:10:24.000 Yeah, very calm.

02:10:25.000 I always felt like that was...

02:10:28.000 When I would interview him, I always felt like that was almost fake.

02:10:31.000 Yeah.

02:10:32.000 Like, the calmness was all... 1.00

02:10:33.000 Like, there's a fucking hurricane going on in that guy's mind. 0.99

02:10:37.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:10:37.000 Well, he had a horrible existence, a horrible childhood. 1.00

02:10:40.000 His childhood was very, very, very hard.

02:10:42.000 Yeah, lived on the streets of the jungle, right?

02:10:45.000 Yeah, he lived in very, very poor existence.

02:10:48.000 And that's why he has that horrible scar across his chest.

02:10:51.000 I mean, he got cut open and never really got medical attention.

02:10:55.000 Cut open how?

02:10:56.000 Like stabbed or something?

02:10:56.000 I don't know what happened.

02:10:57.000 I don't know what happened.

02:10:58.000 Write a movie about that guy.

02:11:00.000 But he had that huge scar across his chest.

02:11:02.000 But Paul Harris...

02:11:03.000 It was uniquely terrifying because you knew that not only was he going to leg lock you, but he wasn't going to let it go.

02:11:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:11:10.000 And he was going to be... 0.97

02:11:11.000 I mean, he fucking even did it to Jake Shields. 0.98

02:11:13.000 He got Jake Shields in a Kimura. 0.98

02:11:15.000 Yeah, I was there.

02:11:16.000 And didn't let it go.

02:11:17.000 Yeah.

02:11:18.000 Jake started hitting him afterwards.

02:11:19.000 Yeah.

02:11:20.000 Yeah, it's scary.

02:11:21.000 Because guys like that can really...

02:11:23.000 That's your career.

02:11:24.000 They can ruin your career.

02:11:25.000 Ruin your career.

02:11:25.000 Your knee...

02:11:26.000 I mean, that's it.

02:11:27.000 That was the guy with...

02:11:28.000 I did the heel hook because I saw the heel hook the day before on a big screen.

02:11:33.000 Really?

02:11:33.000 This is how I got my fifth degree black belt.

02:11:35.000 That was an honorary black belt. 0.53

02:11:37.000 I'm with John Blooming, who is the highest gaijin next to Masoyama in Kyokushin.

02:11:42.000 He's got the 11th degree.

02:11:44.000 And we're standing, we see this big giant, this is a preview for the fights for the next day in Japan.

02:11:49.000 Giant screen on the side of a wall.

02:11:52.000 And we go, hybrid wrestling, Pancras, we hear.

02:11:56.000 And the first thing we see is me knocking out my first opponent.

02:11:59.000 Oh, there's the preview, so we're looking.

02:12:01.000 And I see this guy sitting in half guard, grabs the foot and he falls back.

02:12:05.000 And I say to John Blooming, I go, hey, that's a cool move, I gotta remember that.

02:12:12.000 Next day I'm fighting.

02:12:14.000 I'm in that position.

02:12:15.000 So I go, might as well try.

02:12:18.000 So I grabbed it, but I never did it before.

02:12:20.000 So I had no clue.

02:12:22.000 So I grabbed the heel hook, an inverted heel hook. 1.00

02:12:24.000 Think about that.

02:12:25.000 And I just fell backwards.

02:12:27.000 Yeah.

02:12:28.000 Broke his shin freaking in half. 0.99

02:12:29.000 So first we heard the clack, cock. 0.99

02:12:32.000 So I let go. 0.99

02:12:33.000 I think his knee is blown out, right?

02:12:35.000 Because that will be it.

02:12:35.000 And the referee is asking and he's feeling his knee and he goes, no, I'm good.

02:12:39.000 Well, what happened was that his shin was like half snapped because that's what we heard.

02:12:43.000 And then he kicks me with that leg.

02:12:45.000 Oh, God.

02:12:46.000 Yeah, and I just put my weight in it and then you see it bending.

02:12:49.000 Has anybody ever come back from that chin snapping?

02:12:53.000 I mean, Tyrone Spong would never really kickbox again after that.

02:12:58.000 Anderson was never the same after that.

02:13:01.000 Chris Weidman still hasn't fought in MMA after that.

02:13:05.000 There's reasons that you turn over a kick.

02:13:08.000 I always say this to people.

02:13:10.000 I'm trying to figure something out here.

02:13:12.000 Like, okay, imagine this is the shin bone.

02:13:14.000 I tell this to people, right?

02:13:15.000 It's straight.

02:13:17.000 It's very hard to break like this.

02:13:19.000 Very easy to break like that.

02:13:22.000 Right?

02:13:22.000 Much easier.

02:13:23.000 This is thin, this is really thick.

02:13:24.000 That's your shin, if you think about it, because it's like this on your shin.

02:13:28.000 So if you hit it with the flat part, you know, like a Tyron Spong, he's kicking really fast.

02:13:33.000 Jose Aldo kicks really fast, but I always said it before.

02:13:37.000 You gotta watch out, because if you have somebody checking that kick, he's hitting with the flat part of the shin.

02:13:42.000 Sure, it's fast.

02:13:44.000 But it's very dangerous when you connect with something solid, and that's how he broke his shin bar.

02:13:47.000 Right, you gotta hit it on the edge.

02:13:49.000 That's it, that's why...

02:13:50.000 Like a 2x4.

02:13:51.000 That's why the thighs are doing that, because the thighs, their livelihood, and if they don't do it, they're freaking gonna break their shin, and that's it. 0.86

02:13:57.000 It's interesting, because you don't think about that when you think of your shin, but if you think of your shin, the part that you really kind of have to turn it over, because the part, if you have it, if your leg is pointed straight, Your shin, the flat part is on the inside.

02:14:13.000 That's it.

02:14:14.000 And if you throw it without turning it over, that part...

02:14:17.000 Will snap.

02:14:17.000 Yeah.

02:14:18.000 Yeah.

02:14:18.000 And if you have a stance like I have, like I'm the open stance, my toes are pointing 45 degrees.

02:14:24.000 This is my check.

02:14:26.000 Yeah.

02:14:26.000 And I'm not even moving back.

02:14:28.000 I'm just doing this to keep my body weight in there. 0.99

02:14:30.000 It's going to feel to you like you hit the freaking wall. 0.99

02:14:33.000 Super solid block. 0.98

02:14:34.000 And then if you kick wrong, that's it.

02:14:36.000 You lose.

02:14:37.000 The Uriah Hall, Chris Weidman one.

02:14:39.000 Ah, scary.

02:14:41.000 Oh, because Chris Weidman just throws full power first kick.

02:14:45.000 And Uriah Hall, who's an excellent striker, just turns it over, turns it out, and crack!

02:14:51.000 We have an open stance.

02:14:53.000 Karate combat, we're in Greece.

02:14:54.000 I'm commentating.

02:14:56.000 Main event.

02:14:58.000 Seven fights, 55 minutes was the show.

02:15:01.000 Everybody got slaughtered.

02:15:03.000 The standing open stands, and the first guy, the guy from France, David Dona, gives him a full inside low kick.

02:15:09.000 And I'm saying he should not do that.

02:15:12.000 In an open stand, because in karate combat, you cannot hit the thighs.

02:15:16.000 It's below the knee, right?

02:15:19.000 So shin on shin.

02:15:20.000 And I go, he shouldn't do that because this is how you break your shin.

02:15:23.000 I say it, two seconds later, he kicks again, snaps him in half.

02:15:28.000 So you've had one in karate combat, too.

02:15:30.000 For sure, yeah.

02:15:30.000 Karate combat, you can't kick the thigh?

02:15:32.000 Not the thighs, you know.

02:15:33.000 Why not?

02:15:34.000 Because this is the karate rules that they have over there, and it keeps the fight a little bit more separated.

02:15:39.000 But this is the great thing, you know, because they were actually telling me, because you talked about this before in the show, About Karate Combat not having the ties.

02:15:46.000 I really love the ties as well.

02:15:48.000 Also, I love knees to the face. 0.52

02:15:50.000 Well, they're allowing it now.

02:15:52.000 You just cannot grab, you know, but you can throw it loose to the body and to the face.

02:15:56.000 That's really nice.

02:15:58.000 Flying knees.

02:15:58.000 Flying knees, yeah.

02:16:00.000 But the great thing about Karate Combat is we're not the owners.

02:16:05.000 The fans are the owners.

02:16:07.000 You go, what?

02:16:08.000 We have a token, the karate token, cryptocurrency, and you can come.

02:16:12.000 This is another thing.

02:16:13.000 It's upgaming, we call it.

02:16:15.000 You cannot lose.

02:16:16.000 Wait.

02:16:17.000 You cannot lose.

02:16:18.000 You put your tokens on a fighter.

02:16:21.000 If that particular fighter wins, 90% of those tokens go to you.

02:16:25.000 10% actually goes to the fighter as well.

02:16:26.000 So they try to get a lot of...

02:16:28.000 Oh, nice.

02:16:29.000 I like that a lot.

02:16:30.000 Oh, I love it, you know.

02:16:32.000 And if you lose, you don't lose your tokens.

02:16:35.000 You go, whoa, what's the catch?

02:16:37.000 Okay, Karate Koma, they decide, we decided that we, you know, for the first three years, we'll take that hit.

02:16:44.000 Really?

02:16:44.000 Yeah, so they want people to go engage, and we don't say anything.

02:16:52.000 Rafael Agaev is the interim champion right now.

02:16:54.000 And he's the interim champion because fighters, the fans, wanted to fight against Raymond Daniel first before he fought Joshua Quahagen.

02:17:01.000 We listen to the fans.

02:17:03.000 And we do what they want us to do.

02:17:05.000 And that's it.

02:17:06.000 So you, with you saying, I want to have ties included, you can petition on the app and you can say, listen, I would like to have ties.

02:17:14.000 And if more people support you, they will allow it.

02:17:17.000 There's going to be a new rule that kicks to the tires. 0.53

02:17:19.000 Get on it, people.

02:17:20.000 How cool is that, right?

02:17:21.000 That's great.

02:17:22.000 So they listen to the fans, they get 10% of the fighters, and if a lot of people are betting, that could be really good for the fighters as well to get a little bit of extra dough.

02:17:30.000 I really like the idea of a token that's attached to an organization.

02:17:33.000 That makes me excited about crypto tokens, because look at this.

02:17:36.000 Okay, all new Karate Combat app is now live, so this is how it works.

02:17:41.000 Grow your, so it's a dollar sign and then karate token.

02:17:47.000 Stash every time your fighter wins.

02:17:49.000 So that's a great idea.

02:17:51.000 It's a great idea also that it goes to the fighters as well, 10%.

02:17:54.000 If the UFC implemented something like that, I think that would be very successful.

02:17:58.000 I think it's a very, very good idea.

02:18:00.000 Probably one of the most unique ideas that I've heard in a long time in implementation of crypto token that I think is fantastic.

02:18:07.000 The Wall Street guys who started this organization and then you know in the beginning they are just study groups to find out who's the most and they realized that the Conor McGregor like two out of ten people would know him instead of ten out of ten then they realized Dragon Ball Z ten out of ten would know that in that age group and they go like wait a minute if we start combining the two this is how they literally did that stuff And then they say, hey, what if we do cryptocurrency and we can engage him on the app?

02:18:37.000 And boom, we got Dave in there.

02:18:38.000 Dave is super...

02:18:40.000 I don't even want to say that.

02:18:42.000 I'm not going to say what I want to say.

02:18:44.000 But this guy is like the top docs in cryptocurrency.

02:18:47.000 And he came up with this idea for the karate token.

02:18:50.000 That's a great idea.

02:18:51.000 That's a great idea.

02:18:53.000 I really like that idea.

02:18:54.000 Because if a fighter, if a lot of people are gambling on them and they're winning money, you know, like...

02:18:58.000 Like, when Israel Adesanya fought Alex Pajera, I think Drake bet like a million dollars on him.

02:19:04.000 Something crazy.

02:19:05.000 And won.

02:19:06.000 Wouldn't it be nice?

02:19:07.000 Oh.

02:19:08.000 Bobo Dios, it didn't take a second time.

02:19:10.000 I think he was still favorite.

02:19:12.000 Israel was favorite.

02:19:13.000 But meanwhile, Pajera was putting it on him.

02:19:15.000 The calf kicks.

02:19:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:19:17.000 His ability to throw those calf kicks with no telegraph.

02:19:21.000 He like lifts up the leg, boom!

02:19:22.000 And he's not turning the hip over.

02:19:24.000 But that's why he's got to watch out with that.

02:19:28.000 It's the same block again.

02:19:29.000 Another thing that I really love from him that he does, he doesn't turn his penches over.

02:19:33.000 I don't do that either. 0.99

02:19:34.000 I don't believe in this whole crap. 0.99

02:19:35.000 If it comes naturally, let it go. 0.98

02:19:37.000 But if you start focusing on it, a lot of people already do it here.

02:19:40.000 You see, you start telegraphing.

02:19:41.000 And once you start doing this, this is almost the same as an overhand.

02:19:45.000 If I let you get used to this, and now an overhand is a completely different punch.

02:19:49.000 It can set you up way better by doing that.

02:19:52.000 This is way more penetrating than when you bring the elbow up.

02:19:55.000 Well, that's the thing about Pejeda that people don't give him enough credit for.

02:19:58.000 He's very clever and very technical.

02:20:00.000 Yep.

02:20:01.000 Because everybody just thinks about the power.

02:20:02.000 His power is so extraordinary.

02:20:04.000 But then you realize he's not hitting hard all the time.

02:20:08.000 He's not like a guy just like Melvin Manhoof.

02:20:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:20:11.000 Woo! 0.99

02:20:11.000 Everything in his head, yeah. 0.99

02:20:12.000 Melvin was one of my all-time favorites.

02:20:15.000 Monster.

02:20:16.000 Oh, my God.

02:20:16.000 Freaking Mark Hunt.

02:20:17.000 Oh, my God.

02:20:17.000 Knocking him out.

02:20:18.000 In one punch.

02:20:20.000 And I think also the cup.

02:20:21.000 Did you see that?

02:20:22.000 I think I'm the only one who caught it.

02:20:24.000 I go, serious?

02:20:25.000 So he knocks out Mark Hunt.

02:20:27.000 He flies down, and Mark hits his head on his cup.

02:20:31.000 Is he wearing a tie cup?

02:20:32.000 A tie cup?

02:20:33.000 Yeah.

02:20:34.000 So I think it's a double whammy.

02:20:35.000 I think already the punch was it, but so boom, boom, and then he goes down.

02:20:38.000 I think it's crazy that they still let fighters wear steel cups.

02:20:42.000 I think it's crazy.

02:20:43.000 But I think it's good. 0.75

02:20:45.000 Because you shouldn't really be kicking someone in the nuts anyway. 0.76

02:20:47.000 And if you kick someone in the nuts and you're going to shatter your foot because you're going to hit a steel cup...

02:20:52.000 So they won't allow it? 0.55

02:20:55.000 They do allow it.

02:20:56.000 Oh, you have to?

02:20:57.000 I don't understand people not using a steel cup.

02:21:00.000 Either that or...

02:21:02.000 I think the Diamond MMA system is excellent because it's a compression cup and you can take a full blast shot to the nuts.

02:21:08.000 Did you try?

02:21:08.000 Yeah.

02:21:09.000 I've knocked on it a few times. 0.98

02:21:12.000 I got a really bad dick injury once from jiu-jitsu from someone passing my guard He is passing my guard and he tried to slam his knee through to pass my guard and I didn't I wasn't wearing a cup and he hit me right on the dick not on my balls on my dick and It hurt like hell, but I just kept going and then afterwards I went into the locker room and my jockstrap had blood in it there's a bunch of blood in my jockstrap and I was like, oh Jesus. 0.99

02:21:41.000 Then I pissed and blood was coming out of my dick. 0.99

02:21:43.000 I'm like, okay. 0.99

02:21:44.000 So I was like, do I go to the hospital or do I treat it like a broken nose? 0.99

02:21:48.000 So what I did was I went home and I jerked off because I figured if my dick still works, Then I'm not worried about it. 1.00

02:21:56.000 And the fucking... 1.00

02:21:58.000 I jerked off into the toilet bowl. 1.00

02:22:00.000 This is how gross I am. 1.00

02:22:01.000 And this fucking disgusting thing came out. 0.99

02:22:06.000 I go, okay, we'll see if it works tomorrow. 0.99

02:22:08.000 I mean, I want to make sure it's not infected.

02:22:11.000 And I never wound up doing anything with it. 1.00

02:22:12.000 But, you know, people are like, but it's your dick. 0.99

02:22:14.000 I'm like, yeah, but if it was really... 0.99

02:22:16.000 If I really was worried, you know, I mean, it's an injury.

02:22:20.000 Your nose is always bleeding, right?

02:22:22.000 How many times have you broken your nose?

02:22:24.000 Listen, I did the same thing.

02:22:25.000 I'm standing at the end of the class.

02:22:27.000 I just had a sparring session and now I have teaching kids class.

02:22:30.000 And I'm standing in front of the mirror pushing my nose straight because it got broke again in training.

02:22:34.000 So this guy walks in who has two sons with me and he says, hey, if you want, I can fix this.

02:22:39.000 I go, what do you mean?

02:22:40.000 He says, I'm a plastic surgeon.

02:22:41.000 I can put a plastic nose in there.

02:22:43.000 So I have a plastic nose, see?

02:22:46.000 Plastic?

02:22:46.000 Yeah, plastic, silicone.

02:22:48.000 I can't break anymore.

02:22:49.000 Yeah, so he replaced this so it's not a boxing nose, but I simply can't break anymore.

02:22:54.000 Oh, so you have this piece here, instead of being hard like mine, is a silicone.

02:22:58.000 It's silicone.

02:22:59.000 Push it down again?

02:22:59.000 It can't go all the time.

02:23:00.000 That is crazy!

02:23:02.000 I didn't know they could do that.

02:23:04.000 Me neither.

02:23:05.000 And he did it right away.

02:23:07.000 So that was it for free.

02:23:08.000 I go, I'll take that.

02:23:10.000 Wow.

02:23:11.000 That's nice, yeah.

02:23:13.000 It was out of place though in the UFC when I followed Randallman.

02:23:17.000 It was on the side.

02:23:19.000 Oh no.

02:23:19.000 That's when they asked me.

02:23:21.000 That was literally because it was funny.

02:23:24.000 I think the day before or the day of the fight, I don't remember that, we were talking about the nose bone into the brain, right? 1.00

02:23:30.000 I said, it's a myth, it's bullshit. 0.98

02:23:32.000 But then a friend of mine says to me, if your nose is already broken, then it might happen, right? 0.99

02:23:38.000 So this is in my head.

02:23:39.000 So now, Bas, your nose is broke.

02:23:41.000 And then you say, I look at Big John, I say, do you believe that nose bone into the brain?

02:23:47.000 He wrote that in his book.

02:23:49.000 That's hilarious. 0.99

02:23:49.000 And then he goes, no, I say, oh, fuck it up, right? 0.99

02:23:51.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:23:53.000 Yeah, I was always, man, if I hit you right in the nose, it'll go right in your brain. 0.96

02:23:57.000 No, but it's just people, they always say, oh, I'd like to die in a cage. 0.93

02:23:59.000 Not me!

02:24:00.000 I like my life!

02:24:01.000 I'm very happy living, you know?

02:24:03.000 I don't want to die.

02:24:04.000 If there's a reason, a possibility I might die, Nope!

02:24:09.000 I'm not gonna do it.

02:24:10.000 I'm not gonna take the risk.

02:24:11.000 Why would I? Yeah, why would you?

02:24:13.000 So many people in the UFC... I mean, Justin Gaethje just got his nose fixed.

02:24:16.000 He had a deviated septum.

02:24:18.000 You think?

02:24:20.000 But his nose was so closed off...

02:24:23.000 When he would talk, you would hear it like this.

02:24:25.000 He would talk like that.

02:24:26.000 You could hear that his nose was always stuffed up.

02:24:28.000 And there's so many fighters that you hear him talk.

02:24:31.000 And that was me until I was 40. And I finally got a deviated septum operation.

02:24:36.000 They cleaned out my nose.

02:24:37.000 Oh, my God.

02:24:38.000 Oh, my God.

02:24:40.000 Yeah.

02:24:41.000 It was amazing!

02:24:42.000 I used to go to yoga class, and the guy was like, you gotta breathe out of your nose.

02:24:46.000 I'm like, I can't.

02:24:47.000 He's like, you can't.

02:24:48.000 I go, no, I can't.

02:24:49.000 I can't.

02:24:50.000 My nose is done.

02:24:51.000 The inside of my nose was like cauliflower ear. 0.98

02:24:55.000 It's the same kind of shit, because if you get it broken enough, the blood pools up and it calcifies. 0.99

02:25:00.000 So the doctor had to clean it out, and he showed me all the shit that he cleaned out of my nose after it was over. 1.00

02:25:04.000 It was like a little cup filled with just fucking horrible shit that was inside my... 1.00

02:25:09.000 But afterwards, oh my god! 1.00

02:25:13.000 It's almost like your Tesla.

02:25:15.000 Anybody who needs that, please listen to me.

02:25:18.000 Get it done.

02:25:19.000 Get it done.

02:25:20.000 Get your deviated septum fixed.

02:25:21.000 I know, six weeks, I know.

02:25:23.000 But six weeks later, I was rolling.

02:25:25.000 I was training again.

02:25:26.000 It goes fast.

02:25:27.000 But it was just the difference.

02:25:28.000 My cardio was up by 10%, like immediately.

02:25:31.000 Oh, immediately.

02:25:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:25:32.000 Everything becomes better.

02:25:33.000 Calmness.

02:25:34.000 I could smell. 1.00

02:25:35.000 I couldn't smell shit. 1.00

02:25:36.000 You could fart in my face. 1.00

02:25:37.000 I didn't know what was going on.

02:25:38.000 Yeah, and with food, that's the problem.

02:25:40.000 Oh, with food, that's a real problem.

02:25:42.000 Yeah, if you can smell the wine.

02:25:43.000 I had that one time for like a couple of months.

02:25:45.000 You couldn't smell anything.

02:25:46.000 You could blow smoke in my face.

02:25:48.000 Whatever.

02:25:48.000 And then you don't taste the steaks, no nothing.

02:25:51.000 The red wine sauce, nothing.

02:25:52.000 The wines.

02:25:53.000 Oh, this is a very expensive bottle of wine.

02:25:54.000 Don't give it to me.

02:25:55.000 It's a waste.

02:25:56.000 I mean, yeah.

02:25:57.000 Just give me the alcohol. 0.90

02:26:00.000 What percentage is that?

02:26:01.000 Double that?

02:26:02.000 Bring it back.

02:26:03.000 Yeah, man.

02:26:04.000 The nose thing is such a problem because noses are so vulnerable. 0.99

02:26:08.000 It's such a soft, stupid thing to have that right in the middle of your face where you're getting hit all the time. 0.98

02:26:12.000 But it's in training. 0.99

02:26:13.000 It's in training.

02:26:14.000 I never had it in fighting.

02:26:15.000 Well, Randleman.

02:26:16.000 But Randleman's punches, he was hitting me and sliding over my face.

02:26:21.000 So he hit it completely out of the socket.

02:26:23.000 You know, that wasn't good.

02:26:25.000 And another thing that wasn't good is that I lost a contact.

02:26:27.000 I have bad eyes, like minus five and a half.

02:26:30.000 Like, if I'm sitting in front of you and you look down, your face is straight, you look down, I can't tell.

02:26:35.000 You know, so I was always wearing contacts in the fight.

02:26:38.000 And then one, I lost a contact.

02:26:41.000 And in the other, I was filled up with blood.

02:26:43.000 And then I'm upside down the whole time on my back swallowing the blood.

02:26:46.000 That's why you see me in the corner, I try to throw blood up.

02:26:51.000 I was swallowing my own blood that was making me nausea.

02:26:54.000 It's just annoying.

02:26:55.000 Yeah, it's not good.

02:26:57.000 But, you know, when you look back on your career, Boss, like, you were, in my opinion, you were the first guy that I ever saw that was, like, a very high-level striker that was entering into MMA. Because a lot of MMA striking in the early, early, early days was kind of—or the Orlando Veet was good, but he was very small.

02:27:18.000 Very small.

02:27:19.000 He was like 180 pounds and he's fighting these like he fought Remco Pardew.

02:27:23.000 Remember that fight?

02:27:23.000 Oh yeah, of course.

02:27:26.000 Remco got him in side control.

02:27:29.000 You were the first guy, like especially the Kosaka fight.

02:27:34.000 Pull up that fight. 0.84

02:27:35.000 Pull up when Bas Rutten made his debut because they put a lot of pressure on you too.

02:27:40.000 The poster The poster of the UFC for that event was the greatest martial artist alive.

02:27:48.000 Yeah, and I said they messed up right there.

02:27:49.000 I told them specifically the greatest looking.

02:27:54.000 El Guapo.

02:27:55.000 They pulled the word looking off.

02:27:57.000 Yeah, man.

02:27:57.000 I had that poster for the longest time.

02:27:59.000 I don't know what the fuck I read. 0.99

02:28:02.000 It was just your face. 1.00

02:28:04.000 The poster of that UFC event was just your face.

02:28:07.000 It was badass.

02:28:08.000 Yeah, this is boss.

02:28:09.000 Look at this puppy.

02:28:10.000 So for me, this is UFC 18. And this was...

02:28:13.000 Jesus, I don't think I was working for the UFC anymore.

02:28:16.000 I worked for the UFC for UFC 12 to probably like 16 or something like that.

02:28:21.000 98?

02:28:22.000 Yeah, I think by 98 I was already done because...

02:28:25.000 They were, because I never was there for one of your fights, was I? Nope.

02:28:29.000 I only watched it on television, but I remember watching you fight.

02:28:33.000 I was like, oh, this is exciting.

02:28:34.000 Because this was the first time we saw like a real elite striker. 0.99

02:28:39.000 And again, I have to tell people, you couldn't even fucking spar. 1.00

02:28:43.000 You couldn't wrestle before this fight because you had a fucked up neck. 0.99

02:28:46.000 And Teyoshi Kosaka was an elite guy. 0.99

02:28:49.000 He trained with Maury Smith. 0.79

02:28:50.000 He was a very very good guy, but this fucking this final right here this final barrage When you won your UFC debut. 0.85

02:28:59.000 I mean, that to me as an MMA fan and as a martial artist was very exciting. 0.94

02:29:06.000 I had so much because John put it in his book as well.

02:29:09.000 I walked back to the corner after the first round and I knew I was getting behind because I couldn't do any take down the fence because the ground was hard for me because of my neck.

02:29:19.000 And while I'm walking up, I see the weird look on the guys' faces, and I go, I said, don't worry about it.

02:29:23.000 I got him.

02:29:24.000 I say, you just shout when I have one minute left, and I'll knock him out.

02:29:27.000 And I turn around, and Big John stands here with a smile on his face.

02:29:31.000 So he turns around, and he's like shaking his head.

02:29:34.000 He just heard me say.

02:29:35.000 And then we go to the fight, he goes, one minute!

02:29:37.000 And ten seconds later, I knocked him out.

02:29:39.000 And then Big John gave me his shirt.

02:29:41.000 Oh, wow.

02:29:42.000 He goes, dude!

02:29:43.000 That was the wildest thing.

02:29:45.000 So he gave it to show that he was wearing in the cage afterwards.

02:29:47.000 That's the picture.

02:29:48.000 Look at that.

02:29:48.000 Is this the next UFC heavyweight champion?

02:29:51.000 Yeah, that was cool.

02:29:52.000 Look at that.

02:29:54.000 Make that a little bit bigger so I can read it.

02:29:56.000 What does it say underneath it?

02:29:58.000 Look at that.

02:29:59.000 Boss rooting.

02:30:01.000 The world's greatest martial artist.

02:30:04.000 Look at that.

02:30:05.000 No pressure.

02:30:05.000 Live on pay-per-view.

02:30:07.000 That was a big deal, man.

02:30:08.000 The weigh-in was in the hotel room.

02:30:11.000 That was your debut.

02:30:11.000 Oh, the weigh-in was in the hotel room.

02:30:13.000 Yeah, those weigh-ins were just ridiculous. 0.94

02:30:15.000 And also, the drug testing was ridiculous. 0.98

02:30:17.000 Oh, shoot. 0.86

02:30:19.000 What drug testing?

02:30:20.000 It was nothing.

02:30:21.000 It was nothing.

02:30:22.000 It was crazy. 1.00

02:30:23.000 What a fucking career you had, though, man. 0.99

02:30:25.000 I love it. 0.99

02:30:26.000 What a career.

02:30:26.000 You're such an important part of MMA history.

02:30:29.000 Huge, huge part.

02:30:31.000 I'm very happy everybody's coming to me.

02:30:33.000 They always say the same thing.

02:30:34.000 What if you could have fought now?

02:30:36.000 And I go, I'm completely happy.

02:30:37.000 You know why?

02:30:38.000 Because all the champions you're going to get now, that's good.

02:30:40.000 We're in the pioneer section.

02:30:41.000 That means there can only be a certain group.

02:30:44.000 It can never get bigger.

02:30:45.000 We were the guys who started it.

02:30:47.000 I said, that will be forever there.

02:30:48.000 5,000 years from now, we started the thing.

02:30:51.000 That's cool.

02:30:52.000 I enjoy that.

02:30:54.000 Yeah, I mean, you were a very, very important part of MMA history.

02:30:59.000 Again, because you were the first really elite striker.

02:31:04.000 In the UFC, you saw guys who were good strikers, who were solid guys, but you were a cut above.

02:31:10.000 And it was a very exciting time.

02:31:12.000 And it was also the time where you're sorting all this out.

02:31:16.000 You have to realize, if you go back to UFC 18, people were still sorting out what's effective, what's not effective.

02:31:25.000 Mark Coleman came along, and all of a sudden, everybody wanted to be 265 pounds, because he was taking everybody down and smashing everybody.

02:31:30.000 Headbutts. 0.97

02:31:31.000 Holding the hunts and start headbutting the crap out of people. 0.98

02:31:34.000 Headbutts were legal. 0.98

02:31:37.000 Jesus.

02:31:38.000 Headbutts, no gloves.

02:31:40.000 When Mark Coleman fought Dan Severin in UFC 12, no gloves.

02:31:47.000 No gloves.

02:31:48.000 They just taped up the base of the hand to keep your hand together if it broke.

02:31:53.000 The story that I heard, because I talked to Ken, of course, because the first time when I was fighting in Japan, it was September, and Ken was talking to me that he was going to do this crazy thing.

02:32:02.000 Ken Shamrock.

02:32:04.000 I go, dude, because it was in November, and this was in September, and he went, did his thing, and then afterwards I talked to him, he said it was hilarious, there was a moment in time that everybody was sitting backstage and they were watching the fights, and everybody was expecting that any moment now the promoter could come in and they would say, okay, you're gonna lose, you're gonna win, you know, because they still thought it could be fixed because otherwise it's too crazy.

02:32:28.000 And then they saw Shiraz Cadot kicking the teeth out from the sumo guy.

02:32:32.000 And they go like, it's real.

02:32:34.000 That was a reality check right there in the dressing room.

02:32:39.000 You saw everybody's demeanor changed at the moment that happened.

02:32:44.000 And I think one of the most important things was that Hoist won.

02:32:46.000 Because you got this guy who didn't look the... 0.98

02:32:49.000 I mean, Ken Shamrock was fucking jacked. 0.99

02:32:53.000 He was just jacked. 0.99

02:32:55.000 He looked like a UFC champion.

02:32:57.000 He looked like what everyone was terrified of.

02:32:59.000 And Hoist Gracie tapped him. 1.00

02:33:01.000 And he was like 175 pounds and skinny and wearing a gi, and everybody was like, what is going on?

02:33:07.000 How is this possible?

02:33:08.000 Yeah, I was going through all my magazines because I wanted to clean out, take out of the magazines, make pictures of it, because otherwise you have way too many magazines, like these Japanese badass magazines where you have a fight, you have like eight pages of pictures, and they have the best pictures.

02:33:23.000 And one of the magazines was hoist on the cover, You know, and he's lifting his arm.

02:33:29.000 And the look in his eyes, I actually made a picture and I sent it to him.

02:33:32.000 I go, where is this guy?

02:33:34.000 You know, because freaking violence. 0.97

02:33:37.000 He just won. 0.97

02:33:39.000 No smile. 0.99

02:33:40.000 He's like, freaking kill everybody next. 0.99

02:33:42.000 That was badass, man. 0.98

02:33:44.000 And didn't have a lot of experience doing that.

02:33:46.000 It wasn't like he had had a lot of MMA fights or a lot of no-rules fights.

02:33:50.000 His brother Hickson did.

02:33:52.000 Hickson fought a bunch of them.

02:33:53.000 But Jesus Christ.

02:33:55.000 Yeah.

02:33:55.000 That changed martial arts.

02:33:57.000 Forever.

02:33:58.000 Everything.

02:33:59.000 1993. Changed the fucking world. 0.99

02:34:01.000 Yep. 1.00

02:34:01.000 Changed the fucking world. 1.00

02:34:02.000 Yep. 1.00

02:34:03.000 We all thought...

02:34:04.000 30 years ago, boss.

02:34:05.000 Yeah.

02:34:05.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:34:06.000 I know.

02:34:07.000 I remember the first time I watched it.

02:34:09.000 There was two big revelations for me in my martial arts.

02:34:13.000 One was going from Taekwondo to kickboxing and realizing how easy it was for me to get punched in the face.

02:34:19.000 I was like, oh my god. 0.75

02:34:21.000 Because I thought that I was just going to kick people in the face and knock them unconscious. 0.97

02:34:24.000 I was like, these guys aren't even that good at kicking. 0.91

02:34:26.000 Because I came from this elite Taekwondo background. 0.97

02:34:29.000 And then I was getting just fucking battered in training. 0.93

02:34:32.000 I was like, oh god. 0.97

02:34:33.000 Made me reassess and then leg kicks. 1.00

02:34:36.000 The leg kick one was like, oh fuck. 0.99

02:34:38.000 And then the next one was jiu-jitsu. 0.99

02:34:41.000 My taekwondo teacher had that too.

02:34:43.000 I came back from Thai boxing and he said also, he said, low kicks?

02:34:46.000 Eh, it's not effective.

02:34:48.000 And then when I tied it together, he said, you should just check it.

02:34:51.000 I go, you won't, because I keep you busy.

02:34:53.000 And then I start nailing him with it and he goes, we're going to add low kicks.

02:34:58.000 Yeah, for me it was 1988. My friend Dana Rosenblatt, his buddy from Richie Vasopoli's Karate Studio was, this guy was a very adventurous guy who, I forget his name, but he went over to Thailand and he trained in Thailand for quite a long time and he came back all caught up because he had a bunch of Thai fights and he got cut with elbows.

02:35:19.000 And this guy was living in Thailand and training in Thailand in 1988. And I was like, whoa, what is going on?

02:35:26.000 And that's when I first started incorporating that and started learning low kicks.

02:35:30.000 But I was like, oh my god, I'm so vulnerable.

02:35:32.000 You didn't realize how vulnerable your legs were.

02:35:34.000 And especially because you never did it, so it's all tender.

02:35:37.000 Right.

02:35:38.000 Also, I had a terrible stance for it, too, because I stood very wide.

02:35:43.000 I was very wide like this, and boom!

02:35:45.000 Oh, no!

02:35:47.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:35:48.000 And that was before calf kicks, which is crazy.

02:35:50.000 Like, you know, I talked to Michael Bisping, and he's like, I fought my entire career, won the world title.

02:35:55.000 He won the world title, never got calf kicked.

02:35:57.000 Yeah.

02:35:58.000 Which is so interesting.

02:35:59.000 It's the most interesting thing, yeah.

02:36:01.000 But it's the same, you know, we still don't see clotheslines, and we still don't see, you know, those are parts that you can defend.

02:36:06.000 Sure.

02:36:07.000 If I give you a clothesline, it will loop around, it will still hit the back of your head, the legal part, you know, you just stay outside of the Mohawk. 1.00

02:36:15.000 Where are they?

02:36:15.000 Right.

02:36:16.000 You know, we saw with Junior Dos Santos and McCain when they were fighting.

02:36:19.000 He dropped him and I go, ah, here we go.

02:36:21.000 And then the next fight in the rematch, it went the other way around.

02:36:24.000 Oh, finally people got it.

02:36:26.000 And then it disappeared again.

02:36:27.000 I go, dude, it is such an effective...

02:36:29.000 If I get in the street fight right now, I clothesline the guy.

02:36:33.000 That's the first thing I'm going to try it out.

02:36:34.000 Just full stiff arm.

02:36:35.000 You have no clue. 0.99

02:36:36.000 If I do this on the back, I can give you a head kick. 0.99

02:36:40.000 Full, and I give you a close line. 0.96

02:36:41.000 Close line beats the head kick.

02:36:43.000 Really?

02:36:43.000 If I hit the back, you'll see the whole back fold around my arm.

02:36:47.000 Really?

02:36:47.000 It's bizarre.

02:36:49.000 It's really bizarre.

02:36:50.000 You can be in full defense, it'll go around, boom, hits the back of your head.

02:36:53.000 How come no one's doing that?

02:36:55.000 No clue.

02:36:56.000 Completely illegal.

02:36:57.000 Maybe that's the next thing.

02:36:58.000 Maybe they're going to learn it from this.

02:36:59.000 I hope so.

02:37:00.000 Because I never think of that, but there's a lot of power in that.

02:37:03.000 But the one thing, don't stretch your arm.

02:37:05.000 Because if you do, if he hyperextends, you know.

02:37:08.000 So you want to have a slight bend.

02:37:10.000 A slight bend, and I hit with this part.

02:37:13.000 If you see me doing this on a bag, it's a very scary thing.

02:37:18.000 I want to see.

02:37:19.000 We got a bag.

02:37:19.000 Yeah, well, we'll do it.

02:37:20.000 Okay.

02:37:21.000 Yeah.

02:37:21.000 I'll film it.

02:37:23.000 I'll film it so show everybody how it goes.

02:37:25.000 But yeah, whatever the tech...

02:37:26.000 You know, here's another one that really never made it into the UFC, but it has been in other organizations, is Axe Kicks.

02:37:32.000 There's this one gentleman, I forget his name.

02:37:35.000 Andy Hoog.

02:37:36.000 Oh, of course, Andy Hoog.

02:37:38.000 Of course, Andy Hoog.

02:37:39.000 I mean, Andy Hoog was the master at it.

02:37:41.000 He was, oh my god, those K-1 days.

02:37:44.000 Oh, to this day.

02:37:45.000 What? 1.00

02:37:46.000 How the fuck? 0.99

02:37:48.000 Explain this. 0.99

02:37:49.000 How does Pride go from 90,000 seats Saitama Super Arena to...

02:37:55.000 There's nothing like that over there in Japan now.

02:37:58.000 Like, how did it just go away?

02:38:00.000 Once they realized that the mafia was associated with it.

02:38:04.000 Yeah, isn't that crazy though?

02:38:07.000 Mike.

02:38:07.000 Oh yeah.

02:38:08.000 He was a great guy.

02:38:09.000 He killed himself, dude.

02:38:11.000 Mike Bernardo did?

02:38:12.000 Yeah, poor guy.

02:38:13.000 I liked him a lot.

02:38:14.000 Boom, look at that.

02:38:15.000 Yeah, he's...

02:38:18.000 Look at this.

02:38:20.000 Miracle Crow Cup. 0.82

02:38:21.000 Yeah, Andy Hoog was the master of the axe kick.

02:38:24.000 It's just so flexible.

02:38:26.000 There's one guy who fights in MMA. I've messaged him back and forth.

02:38:33.000 I apologize to him.

02:38:34.000 I just get too many messages.

02:38:36.000 But there was a video of him KOing somebody with an axe kick.

02:38:39.000 I'm like, oh, well, there you go.

02:38:40.000 He was like this elite Taekwondo guy, then started training in MMA and just has this crazy axe kick.

02:38:46.000 And you just don't expect it.

02:38:47.000 Yeah.

02:38:47.000 But nobody does.

02:38:49.000 Especially if you're fighting someone and they're standing southpaw.

02:38:53.000 And they have that right shoulder forward, and he brings it around the outside, so you don't even see it until it's too late.

02:38:58.000 So you're standing like this, you don't see it until it's, oh Jesus Christ!

02:39:01.000 And then boom!

02:39:03.000 And then it slams down.

02:39:04.000 I mean everything is going to snap.

02:39:08.000 This dude's really good at the face.

02:39:10.000 See if you can find it.

02:39:12.000 Let me see.

02:39:13.000 This is the kid.

02:39:15.000 Watch this.

02:39:16.000 Watch this.

02:39:18.000 Boom! 0.99

02:39:19.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:39:19.000 Yeah. 0.71

02:39:20.000 What is his name?

02:39:23.000 What is this guy's name?

02:39:25.000 There it is.

02:39:26.000 Alfie Davis.

02:39:27.000 Alfie Davis.

02:39:28.000 Yeah, so Alfie Davis, this gentleman has a background in Taekwondo, clearly.

02:39:33.000 If you watch, back it up a little bit so you can see a little bit more of it.

02:39:37.000 We'll show some more of his fights too, because he does this a lot.

02:39:40.000 I don't know where he's at right now, but he had that sort of Taekwondo style.

02:39:46.000 Look at this.

02:39:47.000 Steps forward, boom!

02:39:48.000 You just don't anticipate it.

02:39:50.000 You think he's gonna kick you in the body, so you're doing this, and then all of a sudden his foot is over his head.

02:39:55.000 Yeah.

02:39:56.000 See if there's more videos of him.

02:40:01.000 Incredible.

02:40:03.000 Is there more of those?

02:40:05.000 It's the same one, yeah.

02:40:07.000 So there's other fights of his.

02:40:09.000 Does he still fight in Bellator?

02:40:11.000 Says that seven months ago.

02:40:14.000 Anyway.

02:40:15.000 So watching these guys that have these extraordinary kicking skills, as long as they learn the other stuff, but the thing is about learning the other stuff.

02:40:25.000 It's everything.

02:40:27.000 It's everything.

02:40:28.000 You know, with me, last loss by Ken, knee-barred me, and that was it.

02:40:33.000 I go like, okay, I'm either going to learn this freaking game, or I'm going to stop. 1.00

02:40:36.000 It's stupid, you know? 0.99

02:40:37.000 I might win the title, but then if somebody submits you, I'm losing again. 1.00

02:40:41.000 It makes no sense.

02:40:42.000 It's my job.

02:40:43.000 And I found one training partner, and we just started rolling two or three times today.

02:40:47.000 I won my next eight fights by submission after my last loss.

02:40:50.000 They were like, what the heck is going on?

02:40:52.000 I flipped it around.

02:40:53.000 One with submission control, the other one all finishes, seven.

02:40:55.000 Do you think that's what you call ADHD or obsessive, whatever it is?

02:41:01.000 100%.

02:41:01.000 Yep.

02:41:02.000 I focus on that.

02:41:03.000 Like with me, if...

02:41:05.000 If I want something, I want it now.

02:41:06.000 If I can't have it now, it will be happening tomorrow.

02:41:08.000 I'll do everything in my power to master whatever I need to master in the shortest amount of time.

02:41:13.000 And I will sacrifice everything for it.

02:41:15.000 That was always my thing.

02:41:17.000 Like my stamina.

02:41:19.000 I was a severe asthma patient.

02:41:21.000 I was scared it inhaled with me.

02:41:23.000 So I didn't want to get tired.

02:41:25.000 So it was my weakness.

02:41:26.000 And then I realized, wait a minute, why don't I brainwash myself?

02:41:30.000 And I started...

02:41:32.000 Doing it.

02:41:32.000 I start getting tired, and it was great to go, no, I love this!

02:41:36.000 I love this, I wanna get more tired!

02:41:37.000 And I kept on hitting.

02:41:38.000 And then I slowly, and I'm telling you, like within three, four weeks, now I certainly wanted it.

02:41:43.000 And that changed my whole, that's when I started really training, bringing training to the next level.

02:41:49.000 Then I realized, oh, if I can do it with that, I should be able to do this with everything.

02:41:54.000 You know, that's when I start toughening up.

02:41:56.000 And, you know, all these things, shin calcification, all that stuff.

02:41:59.000 I never focused on that.

02:42:01.000 But then I go, hey, why not?

02:42:03.000 You know, if everything is strong and it feels better, for your opponent, it's going to feel much stronger.

02:42:07.000 So let's start working on that.

02:42:09.000 And then that was it.

02:42:10.000 What did you do for shin calcification?

02:42:12.000 Just kicking a bag.

02:42:13.000 But we had a...

02:42:13.000 I have to say this.

02:42:14.000 We had a bag with regular sand in it.

02:42:17.000 So then the lower you kick it...

02:42:18.000 So what I would do, I would put a measuring...

02:42:23.000 Tape around it, so I knew the exact place, the spot, and I would kick that for like the next 10 days only there.

02:42:29.000 And then only when I felt it's okay, I would do it one line below it, like literally this, and I would start kicking that.

02:42:36.000 First of all, great for my aiming, you know, and second of all, you know, every time it gets harder, the lower I kick, it gets harder.

02:42:44.000 By the way, aiming for people, it's so important, you know, and then you go like, oh, dude, It's not normal.

02:42:51.000 You see a lot of guys just hit the head, just hit the body.

02:42:53.000 They don't really aim for their shots.

02:42:55.000 If I'm Thai boxing you and you're wearing shorts, whatever logo is on there, I'll pick out one little piece on it, spot on it, and I will deliver my low kick, every low kick on the same spot.

02:43:08.000 Once you start training yourself like that, you know you automatically start doing it.

02:43:11.000 And think about this.

02:43:13.000 If you have the power to knock somebody out with three low kicks, But you spread them out over three spaces, now you're gonna need nine low kicks in order to do it. 0.86

02:43:21.000 So you see, so this is how, if you kick me here in the gut, you can kick me.

02:43:26.000 But you can't punch me here in the solar plexus. 0.84

02:43:28.000 Okay, so why do not start hitting the solar plexus, the jaw, the spleen, the liver.

02:43:33.000 You know, really aiming for your shots and that automatically puts you also better in the zone.

02:43:38.000 Because my first fights, I was hitting a silhouette.

02:43:41.000 I just hit whatever I could hit.

02:43:43.000 Didn't really matter where I would connect.

02:43:45.000 I just tried to finish the job.

02:43:47.000 Now I'm completely different.

02:43:49.000 Now it's like really waiting.

02:43:51.000 Oh, he's breathing in. 0.90

02:43:52.000 Oh, let's hit him at the moment he's breathing in.

02:43:53.000 You know, like that's my second fight, how I want that. 0.57

02:43:56.000 I use that a lot on your right kicks.

02:43:57.000 If you throw a right kick in my stance, well, you're exhaling when you kick.

02:44:02.000 You're inhaling when you pull back.

02:44:04.000 Oh, I'm gonna use that against you. 0.94

02:44:06.000 I'm gonna block the kick and then while you pull it, recoiling it, I go straight to the body. 0.86

02:44:10.000 That straight, this power, you go down.

02:44:13.000 You can do 5,000 sit-ups a day.

02:44:15.000 You breathe in and I connect.

02:44:17.000 That's it.

02:44:18.000 You're gonna go down.

02:44:19.000 You see, and I really like those moments.

02:44:21.000 I do this with legs.

02:44:23.000 You know, I push you.

02:44:24.000 I push and simultaneously kick. 0.97

02:44:26.000 So I make you weightless, the muscle is relaxed, and then I kick you with the shin.

02:44:30.000 Sure, I cannot generate a lot of power, but you don't need a lot of power.

02:44:33.000 It works really well.

02:44:35.000 Like my last fight, actually, and that was not me time.

02:44:38.000 That was pure luck.

02:44:39.000 But he stepped. 0.57

02:44:40.000 At the moment his foot was up, I kicked him.

02:44:43.000 And I remember my shin.

02:44:44.000 I literally heard, click.

02:44:46.000 My shin was touching his thigh bone.

02:44:49.000 I felt just a skid, click.

02:44:51.000 I... First thing I thought, I won.

02:44:54.000 And I saw him limp and I kicked him one more time, fight was over.

02:44:57.000 But that was the moment that his muscle was completely relaxed.

02:45:00.000 But like I said, that was not me timing it, that was just luck.

02:45:03.000 Are you gonna open up a gym out here?

02:45:05.000 No, I don't think so.

02:45:06.000 I wanna go do some seminars and doing that kind of stuff, you know, because I still own the gym.

02:45:12.000 In Thousand Oaks?

02:45:13.000 In Thousand Oaks.

02:45:14.000 It's going really well.

02:45:15.000 We got these new great wrestling coaches now also.

02:45:18.000 They're gonna start like in two weeks, I believe.

02:45:20.000 So we added wrestling now to it.

02:45:22.000 I mean, we got these crazy fitness challenges.

02:45:25.000 What we do is a man challenge and a woman challenge. 1.00

02:45:28.000 So the woman challenge, it's for six weeks. 0.99

02:45:31.000 Dude, I'm gonna pull up a picture.

02:45:32.000 You're not gonna believe this.

02:45:33.000 So this is a woman who won the competition. 0.99

02:45:35.000 You get a free membership for a year.

02:45:38.000 If you win the competition, this is six weeks.

02:45:40.000 She gained, actually, 2.1 pounds.

02:45:44.000 Watch this.

02:45:45.000 Really?

02:45:47.000 Whoa.

02:45:48.000 Six weeks. 1.00

02:45:49.000 Damn. 0.99

02:45:50.000 And all the other 18 ladies in the class, they know this is 100% real because they wanted to be the number one. 1.00

02:45:55.000 Wow.

02:45:56.000 It's crazy, right?

02:45:57.000 That's incredible.

02:45:58.000 That's hard work.

02:45:59.000 That's hard work.

02:46:00.000 And then people don't know.

02:46:01.000 This is the worst part.

02:46:02.000 Don't you hate it when you know people see...

02:46:04.000 I was always like, oh, steroids.

02:46:06.000 If you look good...

02:46:09.000 And then these overweight people who don't take care of their health, first thing they say is using steroids.

02:46:14.000 I say, wait a minute.

02:46:15.000 So you're using anti-steroids then?

02:46:17.000 What do you mean? 1.00

02:46:18.000 I say, you look like shit. 1.00

02:46:20.000 I'm firing right back when they do it. 1.00

02:46:22.000 I can't stand it, you know?

02:46:23.000 No, live with me for two months.

02:46:26.000 Well, you had phenomenal genetics, though.

02:46:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:46:28.000 Don't you have that weird genetic variant that allows you to keep extra muscle?

02:46:32.000 Isn't there something...

02:46:33.000 Don't you have something weird, though?

02:46:36.000 I had an insanely high testosterone level when I was 19. I think I toned it down to 2400, but I think, no, I thought it was 2800. What?

02:46:46.000 Yeah, they said they never measured anything like it.

02:46:49.000 My mother was there with me, and they go like, is he a handful?

02:46:52.000 And she goes, you have no idea, you know, because she said, this is really crazy high level.

02:46:57.000 Yeah, and I burn like a maniac.

02:46:59.000 So I'm 3% of the population.

02:47:01.000 We did this swap, you know, for something.

02:47:03.000 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

02:47:04.000 Yeah, and it's like, so I can eat six large pizzas a day.

02:47:07.000 I'm the same weight now as when I started fighting.

02:47:09.000 I never lose weight or gain weight.

02:47:11.000 What do you do for exercise nowadays?

02:47:13.000 I just work out 40 minutes.

02:47:15.000 This morning I did a treadmill.

02:47:18.000 I do the incline all the way up.

02:47:19.000 We have a higher one that goes like 25%.

02:47:21.000 So it's pretty gnarly.

02:47:23.000 Yeah, I've got a 30% one.

02:47:25.000 It's awesome.

02:47:25.000 Oh, I love it.

02:47:26.000 I need one like that.

02:47:27.000 Oh, it's fantastic.

02:47:28.000 Because my knees, I can't run, but I can't walk.

02:47:30.000 So then I just go up and I just go 40 minutes straight.

02:47:33.000 What I do is also I do 10 minutes backwards and then I do another 10 minutes forward and then 5 minutes backwards.

02:47:39.000 Walking backwards is very important to balance everything out. 0.99

02:47:42.000 Your knees are still fucked up? 0.99

02:47:44.000 Yeah, there's no scarlet on the kneecaps. 0.99

02:47:47.000 So that sounds like the easiest problem is the worst problem to have in the knee because they can't fix it.

02:47:52.000 You know, it's not like they can't take the kneecap out and replace it with it.

02:47:55.000 It's not working like that.

02:47:57.000 But, you know, I do cable punch routines.

02:48:00.000 Really good for your core, really good for power.

02:48:02.000 I do the reverse punches.

02:48:04.000 Everything I do is super sets.

02:48:06.000 So I do 10 exercises.

02:48:08.000 I do 20 repetitions minimum, all four sets.

02:48:11.000 32 minutes.

02:48:12.000 People go, there's no way.

02:48:13.000 Yeah, but I don't take a rest.

02:48:15.000 That's why I like to do supersets.

02:48:16.000 I'm resting.

02:48:17.000 This muscle group is resting while I'm training this one.

02:48:19.000 So you're training strength, but you're also training conditioning.

02:48:22.000 Always.

02:48:23.000 Because that's in my head.

02:48:24.000 Now, what if something happens on the street?

02:48:26.000 It's always good to have a little bit of gas in the tank.

02:48:29.000 So that's what I do.

02:48:30.000 And I just wash my food.

02:48:31.000 But like I'm crazy.

02:48:33.000 I eat two, two and a half pounds of sweet potatoes.

02:48:35.000 That's my breakfast.

02:48:37.000 That's just that.

02:48:38.000 Two and a half pounds of sweet potatoes?

02:48:40.000 Yeah.

02:48:41.000 And then, just that.

02:48:43.000 No water, no salt.

02:48:44.000 Nothing on it.

02:48:45.000 Just that.

02:48:46.000 Then I have these shakes, these crazy carnivore shakes that I have.

02:48:50.000 They're like 125 carbs a shake.

02:48:53.000 There's a couple today.

02:48:55.000 Drink them in between because they just keep burning.

02:48:58.000 Wow.

02:48:58.000 Yeah.

02:48:59.000 That's crazy.

02:49:00.000 But how old are you now?

02:49:01.000 58. 58?

02:49:03.000 Your body's still burning like that?

02:49:05.000 That's wild.

02:49:06.000 Like you see pictures of me, like last week I started on Saturday because normally I always throw these challenges out, people say with steroids.

02:49:13.000 I started TRT on Saturday last week because they realized that my free testosterone was lower and it was affecting me mentally.

02:49:19.000 It was like something wrong with him.

02:49:21.000 And I told Brigham, I go like, dude, something is wrong.

02:49:25.000 I'm too emotional.

02:49:27.000 Something is off.

02:49:27.000 You know, this is for a while already.

02:49:30.000 But I have pictures.

02:49:31.000 He says, dude, you look freaking awesome.

02:49:33.000 He says, yeah.

02:49:33.000 And I don't use anything, you know?

02:49:34.000 So I was always very proud of that.

02:49:36.000 And to people who said it, I say, take the bet.

02:49:38.000 Yeah.

02:49:39.000 I'll go six months.

02:49:40.000 Every day you can test me.

02:49:42.000 Every single day you might test me.

02:49:43.000 Yeah.

02:49:44.000 There are people out there that are just different.

02:49:46.000 They're just different.

02:49:47.000 Yeah.

02:49:47.000 You know?

02:49:48.000 So now, kind of, because I was very proud of that, but now I had to for my...

02:49:51.000 And I have to say, though, I start...

02:49:54.000 Like a week in, I worked out in Miami on a treadmill.

02:50:00.000 No, I did a shadow boxing with my audio workout.

02:50:02.000 And after I just did a little bit of TRT, it's like only 2.5, it's like 50 milligrams.

02:50:08.000 And then I said, okay, I texted them.

02:50:10.000 I go, I'm feeling good now.

02:50:12.000 Mentally, I feel different.

02:50:14.000 So it is something doing doing something to your mental state as well.

02:50:18.000 I had no clue for sure That's a big thing with guys that have pituitary gland injuries when they get depression That's a lot of it is your body's not producing testosterone anymore You see so I'm very happy I started with that everything also I had this wound on my That I cut myself with a knife, like really weird.

02:50:36.000 It opened up in my pocket while I was pulling my pants up. 0.89

02:50:39.000 It's something stupid, but it was a cut. 0.97

02:50:41.000 It's been there for two years. 1.00

02:50:42.000 Really?

02:50:43.000 I go like it.

02:50:44.000 My wife every time goes like you. 1.00

02:50:45.000 But now when I started last week, it's almost gone now.

02:50:48.000 So it helps with that as well.

02:50:51.000 Although my white blood cells were good.

02:50:53.000 Everything was good.

02:50:54.000 It was just my free testosterone was a little low.

02:50:57.000 Well, it's good to get everything checked.

02:50:59.000 That's ways to build well.

02:51:00.000 It's fantastic for that.

02:51:01.000 Yeah.

02:51:02.000 It's great to get everything checked.

02:51:03.000 And some great people.

02:51:04.000 Ron White walked in.

02:51:06.000 Yeah, Ron White's the man.

02:51:07.000 Yeah.

02:51:08.000 No, Brigham is awesome.

02:51:09.000 I love Brigham.

02:51:10.000 And anybody that's listening, listen to the podcast that I did with Brigham Bueller.

02:51:15.000 It's an amazing podcast where he breaks down all the problems in the medical system and all the problems with the insurance system and And there's so many different things that can benefit you that are fantastic for your health that are not covered by your insurance.

02:51:32.000 You know what's this?

02:51:33.000 I know this is gonna sound like a lead way, but breathing.

02:51:36.000 Yes.

02:51:37.000 What people don't have any idea about is that 95% of us are breathing wrong.

02:51:42.000 Incorrect.

02:51:43.000 Google it.

02:51:44.000 Because I was thinking I was breathing correct.

02:51:46.000 And if you stand in front of the mirror, you take a deep breath, you're raising your shoulders, you are breathing wrong.

02:51:51.000 That's it.

02:51:52.000 Four to six of these shoulder-raising breaths is the same as one belly breath.

02:51:58.000 Take the lowest, number four.

02:52:00.000 So imagine you come out of a hard fought round and you got one minute to recoup instead of 40 times raising your shoulders, you can do the same amount of air by 10 times.

02:52:08.000 Not only that, if you're raising your shoulders, your necks, your traps, your neck muscles, everything needs oxygen, right?

02:52:14.000 You're lifting and lifting.

02:52:15.000 That's why fighters, people who are overweight, their breathing is much better Then people are lengthy.

02:52:23.000 Because they don't want to carry that weight upwards all the time with breathing, so they automatically start breathing diaphragmatically.

02:52:30.000 But that completely changed my life.

02:52:33.000 Really?

02:52:34.000 Diaphragm breathing?

02:52:35.000 It really did.

02:52:35.000 Diaphragm breathing and then strengthening those inspiratory muscle training.

02:52:38.000 It's not a gimmick.

02:52:40.000 Just go on a published medical website, journal.

02:52:43.000 You push in IMT and you will have 1200 reports there.

02:52:48.000 About what it does.

02:52:48.000 Every endurance athlete in the Olympics, guess what they're doing?

02:52:51.000 It's inspiratory muscle training.

02:52:53.000 Well, you also have that breath trainer that you developed.

02:52:56.000 That's it, yeah.

02:52:58.000 That's a device, so just tell people about that.

02:53:01.000 So, okay, so I'm breaking this thing.

02:53:03.000 What I want to say first is, so you breathe wrong.

02:53:06.000 Don't say, I woke up I've been breathing since I was a baby.

02:53:10.000 I know how to breathe.

02:53:11.000 You don't.

02:53:12.000 That's good till you're about five and a half years of age.

02:53:14.000 And that's when we start breathing wrong.

02:53:16.000 And the reason is because that's the moment we start going to school.

02:53:19.000 And that's when we start wearing belts and sitting all day long in the classroom.

02:53:22.000 And that's when you go to the doctor and the doctor puts a stethoscope on your chest.

02:53:25.000 They take a deep breath.

02:53:26.000 Oh, this is where my lungs are.

02:53:27.000 You know, that's what you think.

02:53:28.000 But it's not.

02:53:28.000 The lungs are lower part there.

02:53:31.000 Let me stop this.

02:53:34.000 Then, of course, boys, girls, oh, you start to get interested in the different sex, and then suddenly you realize, wait a minute, if I keep breathing through my belly, they think I'm fat.

02:53:43.000 This is literally the reason that people start breathing the wrong.

02:53:47.000 You know we're the only animal, the only mammal that breathes wrong?

02:53:52.000 Really?

02:53:52.000 Only the humans.

02:53:54.000 Look at the baby.

02:53:55.000 You see the belly breathe?

02:53:56.000 Perfect.

02:53:57.000 Okay, so know this right now.

02:53:59.000 You're breathing wrong.

02:54:00.000 95% of you are.

02:54:01.000 And the 5% probably have breathing classes.

02:54:04.000 You and bow hunting.

02:54:06.000 You think chest breathing is good?

02:54:09.000 Or you think diaphragmatic breathing?

02:54:11.000 Every sniper, go to a Tim Kennedy.

02:54:13.000 I guarantee you, he's freaking horizontal breathing. 0.97

02:54:17.000 Diaphragmatic breathing.

02:54:18.000 So that's number one.

02:54:19.000 Then I go into the next attack.

02:54:20.000 Nose breathing.

02:54:21.000 Because everybody says, I breathe through my nose.

02:54:24.000 Yeah, okay. 0.90

02:54:25.000 What if I smash your nose in? 0.97

02:54:26.000 What about that? 0.86

02:54:27.000 What if you have a cold you have to fight?

02:54:28.000 You can't breathe through your mouth? 1.00

02:54:29.000 Come on, don't be stupid. 1.00

02:54:30.000 Yeah, but this thing, you know, it works through the mouth. 1.00

02:54:32.000 You're only using it for about five minutes a day.

02:54:35.000 And it will strengthen your breathing muscles, which by the way, you have 11 pounds of breathing muscles.

02:54:39.000 That's a lot!

02:54:40.000 And with breathing muscles, I say the mover for inhaling is your diaphragm, and your intercostals, which are the muscles in between your ribs, the external intercostals are for inhaling, expands your chest.

02:54:52.000 I'm gonna go in a little bit how that works.

02:54:55.000 Because that's why I brought this weird thing here with me.

02:54:58.000 What'd you got with me?

02:54:59.000 This weird, it's a steamer, a vegetable steamer, but I'll transform it into a diaphragm in a little bit.

02:55:04.000 Why'd you bring a vegetable steamer? 0.94

02:55:06.000 Well, I'm gonna show you.

02:55:09.000 So, now let's take another part.

02:55:11.000 How does your endurance increase?

02:55:15.000 What do you think is the reason?

02:55:16.000 You train really hard, I know, but what happens when you train really hard?

02:55:20.000 Your recovery gets better, your body gets accustomed to it and conditioned.

02:55:26.000 That's it.

02:55:27.000 You train the muscle over and over again, it becomes more efficient.

02:55:30.000 Right.

02:55:30.000 And the word efficient already says it, uses less oxygen, therefore your stamina increases.

02:55:34.000 Boom.

02:55:35.000 Okay, good.

02:55:36.000 Let's go to the next one.

02:55:37.000 Metaboreflex.

02:55:38.000 That's a nice word for gassing, right?

02:55:40.000 So just gassing.

02:55:43.000 This is what happens when you're gassing.

02:55:44.000 Let's say you're running a hill, a very steep hill, 45 degree angle.

02:55:48.000 It's a hard one, hard one, hard one.

02:55:49.000 And suddenly it feels like you hit the wall.

02:55:52.000 What happens at that moment is that your body starts redirecting oxygenated blood and it takes it away from your legs because it sends it to your number one priority in the body, which are your breathing muscles.

02:56:03.000 Because if your breathing muscles don't work, you die.

02:56:06.000 If you can't expand your chest, you die.

02:56:08.000 Okay, so endurance works, muscle training over and over again gets more endurance. 0.81

02:56:12.000 Okay, but my freaking intercostals and my diaphragm, they steal the blood stealings, literally a medical term, away from my limbs as soon as I'm getting tired.

02:56:22.000 Okay, what if I update those 11 pounds of breathing muscles? 0.93

02:56:27.000 What if I give them more endurance?

02:56:29.000 Over and over again, so they become more efficient.

02:56:32.000 Now you delay your gassing, that's normally, let's say, happens here, happens there.

02:56:36.000 That's why every single endurance athlete in the Olympics will actually use inspiratory muscle training.

02:56:42.000 It blows my mind that you have coaches here, oh, he's the coach of the year, coach of the year, and they don't spend time on breathing? 1.00

02:56:49.000 You're an idiot. 1.00

02:56:50.000 A complete idiot. 1.00

02:56:51.000 You remember I was on your show and I said, 15 to 20% you get more? 1.00

02:56:54.000 Oh, I lied about that.

02:56:56.000 That's for 95% of the people.

02:56:58.000 And the difference is more than that.

02:57:00.000 Whoa! 0.71

02:57:01.000 That's a big statement.

02:57:02.000 Four to six of these brats is the same as one, but it's a big thing.

02:57:06.000 I can let you hear a message from Lyoto Machida, who was doing it for three months, got COVID, then started training with his fighters.

02:57:12.000 He says, dude, I outworked everybody.

02:57:14.000 My breathing was so in control, it's freaking out.

02:57:17.000 That's how crazy it is.

02:57:18.000 You see, so now, and now you have to understand how breathing works because we all believe that our lungs do the work.

02:57:23.000 Lungs are two bags.

02:57:24.000 You can't have strong lungs.

02:57:26.000 There's no muscle in your lung.

02:57:28.000 If you cannot expand your chest, you die.

02:57:31.000 So when you expand your chest, you create a vacuum between your body and your lungs and that vacuum opens up your lungs.

02:57:38.000 So for people who go like, oh, what is a vacuum?

02:57:41.000 Just imagine your lungs being glued to the inside of your body.

02:57:44.000 And if you expand your chest, that's how you pull the air in.

02:57:46.000 So if you think about this, your chest doesn't expand because you put air in it.

02:57:51.000 Your chest expands, that's how you pull the air in.

02:57:53.000 So that's a little weird thing to think about, but just focus on that.

02:57:57.000 Now, the chest expansion, I already said, is done by your diaphragm and your intercostals.

02:58:01.000 Now, Dr. Beliza Vrenic, She's actually a person, a world-renowned breathing expert.

02:58:07.000 Joey Diaz set me up with her.

02:58:09.000 And Joey said, you should meet her.

02:58:11.000 So I went to visit her on Fifth Avenue in New York in her office.

02:58:15.000 This is five, six years ago.

02:58:18.000 First thing she does is measuring my chest expansion, right?

02:58:21.000 So she, and I know why she's doing that, because the more I can expand, the more air I can pull in my lungs.

02:58:26.000 So she says, okay, exhale, inhale, and she goes, she says, no, no, it's not possible, do it again.

02:58:31.000 And I do it again, and she goes, wait.

02:58:34.000 And she walks out, comes back with another doctor.

02:58:36.000 I go, what's going on?

02:58:37.000 She says, if I don't bring him, he's not going to believe it.

02:58:40.000 I go, what do you mean?

02:58:41.000 I said, well, normally, when somebody break our record by chest expansion, it's like an eighth of an inch, maybe half.

02:58:46.000 You almost went two inches more than everybody else.

02:58:48.000 Let me see your chest expansion. 0.52

02:58:49.000 Give me a brief.

02:58:52.000 It's these lower parts here that I can completely expand.

02:58:57.000 Yeah, but you see what you're doing?

02:58:59.000 You see what you're doing?

02:59:00.000 You're raising your shoulders.

02:59:02.000 Oh, okay.

02:59:03.000 Only focus on this.

02:59:04.000 You're still raising your shoulders.

02:59:06.000 This thing is going to freak you out, man.

02:59:07.000 You're going to get...

02:59:08.000 So I just keep my shoulders down?

02:59:09.000 Grab the bottom of your chair.

02:59:11.000 Grab the bottom of your chair.

02:59:12.000 And then just...

02:59:13.000 That's breathing.

02:59:15.000 - Sorry, that's the great. - Every person wants the stamina of who?

02:59:24.000 Tony Ferguson, Michael Chandler.

02:59:26.000 My God, what do they do?

02:59:28.000 Look at them breathe.

02:59:30.000 80% of the UFC fighters breathe incorrect.

02:59:34.000 Those guys, you will not see any movement.

02:59:38.000 They breathe perfect, and that's why they have the advantage.

02:59:42.000 So now watch this, right?

02:59:44.000 So this is, the diaphragm is a thin dome-shaped muscle-tendon mixture.

02:59:49.000 And this, it separates the chest cavity from the abdominal cavity, right?

02:59:54.000 This side here is attached to the lower part of your ribcage.

02:59:57.000 That's where it's attached to.

02:59:59.000 And this is what the diaphragm does.

03:00:00.000 It actually massages your intestines and it massages your heart as well.

03:00:04.000 It lines your spine.

03:00:05.000 You should read the reviews with people with back problems.

03:00:08.000 Back problems are gone.

03:00:09.000 This is all published medical journals, all backup.

03:00:12.000 This is what the diaphragm does.

03:00:14.000 It just expands.

03:00:16.000 Exactly.

03:00:16.000 Because from that angle, this is what it does.

03:00:19.000 It drops down.

03:00:21.000 It massages everything.

03:00:22.000 It goes back up.

03:00:23.000 Drops down.

03:00:23.000 But that drop down is an expansion.

03:00:26.000 This happens in the center of your body that, together with your intercostals, will open up your chest.

03:00:31.000 That exhaling is done by your obliques, your core, and your internal intercostal muscles.

03:00:35.000 Those are for the exhale.

03:00:36.000 Also a very important muscle to train.

03:00:38.000 But if you train both at the same time, not good.

03:00:42.000 Both separately, very...

03:00:43.000 Very good.

03:00:44.000 So this one is an inspiratory muscle trainer.

03:00:47.000 I brought two for you so you can choose if you want a blue or a green one.

03:00:51.000 Listen, don't let the look fool you. 1.00

03:00:54.000 It's a simple, stupid, this is it? 1.00

03:00:57.000 Yes, weight training for your breathing muscles. 1.00

03:00:59.000 You can throw it against the wall, you can step on it, you can do anything.

03:01:01.000 You buy one, you never have to buy another one.

03:01:04.000 It comes with 16 different settings.

03:01:06.000 It's very basic.

03:01:07.000 Why does it look like this?

03:01:09.000 Because I had the idea when I was 14. You think a 14-year-old kid came up with electronics?

03:01:13.000 No.

03:01:13.000 This was it.

03:01:14.000 This was actually also the reason I could bypass all the patterns, and I have the pattern for this.

03:01:18.000 So what it does is just controls the air intake.

03:01:21.000 So if you inhale, this side has a flap that will close off, which will force you to inhale to this side.

03:01:27.000 This one comes with 16 different settings.

03:01:30.000 Now in the beginning, my asthma was cured within three weeks.

03:01:33.000 Imagine, I was walking around with an inhaler everywhere I went.

03:01:37.000 Every workout session, inhaler before.

03:01:39.000 Every fight, inhaler before. 0.72

03:01:41.000 Three weeks with this freaking prototype, gone.

03:01:45.000 Whoa, now I'm up to something. 0.75

03:01:47.000 Send it to my friend in Holland who has asthma.

03:01:49.000 Eight days later, he calls me.

03:01:51.000 Dude, I want to sell them in Europe.

03:01:52.000 He's selling them in Europe right now.

03:01:54.000 Asthma is gone.

03:01:55.000 I go, dude, we're up to something here.

03:01:57.000 Now I have a commercial.

03:01:58.000 If your asthma is not 70% or 80% gone or more in one month, I'll give you your money back.

03:02:03.000 But I'm going to need to see you doing the freaking four minutes a day, though.

03:02:07.000 Because we all go, four minutes a day?

03:02:09.000 I can do this.

03:02:09.000 No, you can't.

03:02:10.000 We're a whole bunch of pussies. 1.00

03:02:11.000 And pussies, I say, pussie, I made an abbreviation for pusillanimous. 1.00

03:02:16.000 Lack of courage or determination or cowardly. 1.00

03:02:19.000 That's what we are.

03:02:19.000 And I say we because we all are certain things.

03:02:22.000 We just give up really fast.

03:02:24.000 Oh, I want an extra drink.

03:02:26.000 Yeah, you're a pussie. 1.00

03:02:26.000 You see? 1.00

03:02:28.000 Pussillanimous.

03:02:28.000 Yeah.

03:02:29.000 This one for you, since you are an athlete already, I'll put this one on number, I'll put your number four.

03:02:37.000 So what you're doing is, you put it in your mouth, that's what he said, and you exhale.

03:02:46.000 So officially, just right now for sitting straight.

03:02:49.000 And keep your shoulders low, and exhale completely, and then inhale by pressing your belly forward.

03:02:58.000 Explosive.

03:02:58.000 And then explosive inhale.

03:03:00.000 I see your chest coming a little.

03:03:11.000 Keep it down.

03:03:12.000 There we go.

03:03:13.000 That's core.

03:03:13.000 Now we're doing it.

03:03:15.000 This is just sitting straight.

03:03:27.000 But if you do this with an exercise, there's two exercises.

03:03:30.000 I feel it.

03:03:31.000 I feel it.

03:03:31.000 I feel like a workout of these muscles.

03:03:34.000 That's right.

03:03:35.000 I'm feeling these muscles in a different way than I feel doing anything else.

03:03:39.000 You know, you want to freak out even more?

03:03:40.000 I want you to just lean over a little bit.

03:03:43.000 Lean on your legs.

03:03:47.000 Just completely relax.

03:03:49.000 Oh, you can do this actually.

03:03:50.000 Here.

03:03:50.000 So yeah, just lean.

03:03:51.000 Like this?

03:03:52.000 Yeah, but lean over.

03:03:53.000 Okay.

03:03:53.000 And now put it in your mouth.

03:03:55.000 And then when you want to inhale, focus on your back muscle, the lower part of your back muscle to expand.

03:03:59.000 Do that.

03:04:02.000 Because we have breathing muscles 360 degrees circumferential.

03:04:07.000 Those muscles I never worked out.

03:04:09.000 Once I started adding this exercise to it, my stamina got insane.

03:04:15.000 I feel the muscles on my back.

03:04:17.000 Oh, yeah.

03:04:18.000 I feel it.

03:04:19.000 You don't want to do 30 repetitions like this because tomorrow felt like you did a very hard back workout that you're going to walk around.

03:04:25.000 Listen, boss, I'm going to use this every day.

03:04:27.000 I'm going to check in with you in a month.

03:04:29.000 Please.

03:04:30.000 I will 100% do this.

03:04:31.000 Because you are the guy who actually does it.

03:04:33.000 Like, okay, one thing that I want to say for the people, right?

03:04:36.000 If you use it for endurance and you do it before endurance workout, think about this.

03:04:41.000 You're tiring your breathing muscles.

03:04:43.000 I got an idea.

03:04:44.000 How about I do that in the cold plunge?

03:04:46.000 I'm gonna kill two birds with one stone.

03:04:48.000 Oh, Jesse, that's what I always do, too.

03:04:49.000 Yeah, so I'll change my cold plunge from three minutes to four minutes, and I'll just do that the entire time I'm in the cold plunge.

03:04:56.000 All right, boom.

03:04:56.000 Because that tightens you up.

03:04:58.000 That tightens up your...

03:04:59.000 Oh, you're gonna...

03:05:00.000 You watch what's gonna happen.

03:05:04.000 Dude, it will change you, I'll guarantee you.

03:05:06.000 But I just want to know for the people, if you buy for endurance and you do it before endurance, it will backfire.

03:05:11.000 It's like you have to move, but you do a biceps workout, it's not really gonna help you.

03:05:16.000 You gotta build up.

03:05:17.000 You gotta build up.

03:05:18.000 So in the beginning, what I say to these people, do it in the evening.

03:05:21.000 So your braiding muscles can rest during the night, and then the next day you're going.

03:05:25.000 But the difference you're going to notice, you watch.

03:05:28.000 I don't have to say anything.

03:05:29.000 We have the highest ratings on Amazon.

03:05:31.000 I mean, we beat every other product out there.

03:05:33.000 I'm 100% going to do this, and I'm 100% going to check in with you.

03:05:36.000 I'm going to let you know.

03:05:36.000 Yeah, perfect.

03:05:37.000 I'm excited.

03:05:38.000 Me too.

03:05:39.000 Thank you.

03:05:39.000 Yeah, thank you.

03:05:40.000 Boss, this is a good fucking time. 0.99

03:05:41.000 Tell people how they can get that. 0.99

03:05:44.000 O2trainer.com.

03:05:45.000 It's on Amazon.

03:05:45.000 It's everywhere.

03:05:46.000 Read the reviews, guys.

03:05:47.000 Amazon are reviews that you cannot mess, Rod, if you're the number one choice.

03:05:51.000 I feel it right there, just doing that.

03:05:52.000 Immediately.

03:05:53.000 I feel it.

03:05:54.000 And I fell out of my back, too, when you made me lean forward.

03:05:56.000 I really do feel it.

03:05:57.000 And plus, it will align your spine.

03:05:59.000 You know, diaphragmatic breathing is good for...

03:06:01.000 I have a singing school from Australia that's buying it.

03:06:03.000 Because projecting and acting, it's all breathing.

03:06:08.000 All diaphragm.

03:06:09.000 You watch.

03:06:10.000 And by the way, don't believe products that say that we can give you bigger lungs.

03:06:14.000 This is another last thing I want to say. 0.96

03:06:16.000 If you have an athletic workout, stretch your freaking chest muscles. 0.94

03:06:21.000 This is important. 0.74

03:06:22.000 You lose, from the age of 28, you lose about 30 milliliters a year, which means 300 milliliters in 10 years.

03:06:29.000 I'm 58. That means if I would never do any chest stretches, I would have lost almost a liter from the only 6 liters I have.

03:06:37.000 Women have four liters. 1.00

03:06:39.000 Men have six liters.

03:06:40.000 One and a half gallon, one gallon.

03:06:42.000 She's talking about an advantage with the transition.

03:06:44.000 Never mind.

03:06:46.000 They just have 30% bigger lungs.

03:06:48.000 Whatever.

03:06:49.000 But just make sure that you know that.

03:06:52.000 If you want to do stamina, just do it after the stamina.

03:06:55.000 Because otherwise...

03:06:56.000 Brother, I'll check in with you.

03:06:57.000 Thank you very much. 1.00

03:06:59.000 Boss Root, you're the fucking man. 0.99

03:07:01.000 Always appreciate you. 1.00

03:07:01.000 Welcome to Texas. 1.00

03:07:03.000 Yes!

03:07:03.000 My man.

03:07:04.000 I'm here.

03:07:04.000 Thank you.

03:07:05.000 Alright.

03:07:05.000 Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - September 14, 2011

JRE MMA Show #139 with Bas Rutten

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