The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #154 with Matt Serra, Din Thomas & John Rallo

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00:00:12.000 Okay.

00:00:12.000 I'm ready when you want.

00:00:14.000 Matt's already on the roll.

00:00:15.000 Yeah, he's on the roll, man.

00:00:17.000 We gotta get it going.

00:00:18.000 I feel like we missed it already.

00:00:20.000 Yeah, we missed the joy that it's Matt Serra.

00:00:24.000 We need a name for this order of unruly gentlemen.

00:00:28.000 We need a name for us.

00:00:30.000 Matt?

00:00:31.000 I want to think about it.

00:00:32.000 This is Matt's first zen, by the way.

00:00:34.000 And it's a six milligram.

00:00:36.000 That's a heavy dose.

00:00:37.000 But I'm not a...

00:00:38.000 I'm a caffeine guy.

00:00:39.000 I love caffeine.

00:00:40.000 That's a lot like caffeine, but even more.

00:00:42.000 Really?

00:00:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:00:43.000 I've seen it at 7-Eleven.

00:00:44.000 I know Tucker Carlson takes it.

00:00:46.000 He loves them.

00:00:47.000 He got so excited that I had one, he's like, well, you have them too.

00:00:52.000 It's not a dip, though.

00:00:54.000 No, it's just a little pouch.

00:00:55.000 It's not actual tobacco.

00:00:57.000 It's just the nicotine chemical.

00:01:01.000 Nicotine is a chemical is neuroprotective.

00:01:04.000 There's been studies that have done that show some sort of a connection with helping ward off Alzheimer's, I believe.

00:01:12.000 Find out if that's true.

00:01:13.000 I might have made that up.

00:01:13.000 Nicotine?

00:01:14.000 I might have made that up.

00:01:14.000 You said it's good for you.

00:01:15.000 Cat Williams weed is strong.

00:01:16.000 Yes.

00:01:17.000 Nicotine as a chemical is not bad for you.

00:01:22.000 What's bad for you is the delivery system of cigarettes.

00:01:24.000 Oh.

00:01:26.000 Particularly cigarettes if you buy, like, cigarettes with chemicals in them.

00:01:30.000 So there's like, there's those, what are those, American spirits?

00:01:33.000 Yeah, whatever they're called.

00:01:34.000 American something.

00:01:36.000 That's like a marketing, I don't think that's true.

00:01:38.000 They have shit in them too?

00:01:40.000 Of course, they're cigarettes.

00:01:41.000 Interesting.

00:01:42.000 I thought they were just supposed to be a paper and a tobacco.

00:01:45.000 Yeah, I don't think it is.

00:01:45.000 Oh, those liars.

00:01:46.000 Okay, nicotine for Alzheimer's disease.

00:01:48.000 There's no evidence from randomized controlled trials to support the use of nicotine as a treatment for Alzheimer's disease.

00:01:53.000 So what was the thing that, wasn't there something about a connection between the way nicotine works?

00:02:01.000 And some sort of...

00:02:04.000 there's something I read.

00:02:05.000 My thing is, if I start with the nicotine...

00:02:07.000 Go back to that please, Jamie.

00:02:09.000 It says, while nicotine itself doesn't cause dementia, the act of smoking cigarettes may be linked to an increased risk of developing dementia as you age.

00:02:17.000 The harmful substances in cigarette smokes can lead to inflammation factors linked to the onset of Alzheimer's disease.

00:02:22.000 I know that nicotine is a medication they use sometimes for heart patients.

00:02:27.000 So find out what that is.

00:02:29.000 What the fuck that is.

00:02:30.000 The whole thing is the cigarettes- The whole thing is the cigarettes- Did you ever see that movie with Russell Crowe, The Insider?

00:02:35.000 Yes.

00:02:35.000 I know.

00:02:36.000 It's about the dude who works for the cigarette companies.

00:02:38.000 He's a chemist, and he's talking about all the shit they throw in the cigarettes to make them super hyper-addictive.

00:02:43.000 Oh, it sounds action-packed.

00:02:44.000 So it's actually not the nicotine that makes it addictive?

00:02:46.000 Well, nicotine's addictive as well.

00:02:48.000 Right.

00:02:48.000 Nicotine is addictive as well.

00:02:50.000 That's my question.

00:02:51.000 And then they just super juice it up, according to this movie.

00:02:54.000 Before you get me addicted to these things- If I put this in my mouth...

00:02:58.000 What are you going to be, scratching my fucking Tyrone?

00:03:01.000 If I start it and I'm going to...

00:03:05.000 If I'm an everyday...

00:03:06.000 What is this called again?

00:03:08.000 Zin.

00:03:09.000 If I'm an everyday Zin guy, if I stop it, am I going to be like...

00:03:12.000 No, I stopped it the other day for two days.

00:03:14.000 I said, I want to see what it's like.

00:03:16.000 And?

00:03:16.000 Nothing.

00:03:18.000 Did you wait three days?

00:03:19.000 What about four days?

00:03:21.000 I didn't have an itch, no.

00:03:23.000 I would think you would have got it earlier instead of later.

00:03:26.000 I like them.

00:03:27.000 Are you an everyday zinner?

00:03:29.000 Yeah, not every day.

00:03:30.000 I take days off.

00:03:31.000 But the thing is, I don't know if that's my biology.

00:03:36.000 I can just do things and stop doing them.

00:03:40.000 I can't.

00:03:41.000 There's a reason why I never tried fucking cocaine or anything.

00:03:44.000 I haven't either.

00:03:47.000 I had these two pizzeria bosses, and one of them just last week had to get a new spine, and now he's on a ventilator.

00:03:57.000 I don't want to get emotional now, but anyway.

00:03:59.000 I think he might be dead by now, but it's very depressing.

00:04:02.000 But anyway.

00:04:04.000 I was 17 years old, and I used to deliver pizzas for these guys, Nicky and Louie, and they were funny.

00:04:09.000 They remind me a little bit of a Joey Diaz.

00:04:11.000 They were just smoking cigarettes.

00:04:12.000 They were very funny.

00:04:13.000 But they told me, they go, if you try it once.

00:04:15.000 They used to have a cocaine problem, but they cleaned up.

00:04:18.000 And he goes, Matt, you try it once, and you're fucked.

00:04:21.000 And wait, dude.

00:04:23.000 Sold!

00:04:24.000 And I got scared.

00:04:25.000 I got fucking scared.

00:04:26.000 I'm scared.

00:04:26.000 And I knew that.

00:04:28.000 And I've been in situations, obviously, I mean, we all have, like, where it's like, talk about pure pressure, man.

00:04:34.000 I was like, fuck it.

00:04:35.000 And it's like, you know, you got to be that guy.

00:04:37.000 It'll be like, uh...

00:04:38.000 I got real lucky when I was growing up that I had friends that liked it, that were good friends that told me to never do it.

00:04:44.000 And then I also had a friend whose cousin sold it.

00:04:47.000 And when he sold it, he went from being this like regular dude to being like a vampire.

00:04:52.000 And he just stayed in the attic.

00:04:53.000 He had an attic apartment with his girlfriend and they just did coke and watched movies and sold coke.

00:04:58.000 And he lost a ton of weight.

00:05:00.000 He started getting real, like, gaunt and skinny looking.

00:05:03.000 And I was like, yo, it's like they got bit by a vampire.

00:05:06.000 It's like they got bit by a vampire.

00:05:08.000 It's like you're not the same person again.

00:05:10.000 Now your whole mission in his life is getting coke.

00:05:14.000 That's your whole mission.

00:05:15.000 Everything else is out the window.

00:05:18.000 All that success and love and family and friendship and dinners with friends.

00:05:23.000 Fuck all that.

00:05:24.000 You gotta get coke.

00:05:25.000 Nah, that's not the way it is.

00:05:27.000 You just throw this thing in your mouth like that?

00:05:29.000 I just stick it between my cheek and my gum.

00:05:31.000 That's it.

00:05:32.000 I'm in!

00:05:33.000 But you know what else I found that I really like?

00:05:36.000 I should kind of not be talking about this because these motherfuckers took the name that we use for our nootropic, which is Alpha Brain.

00:05:43.000 But these are like a nootropic pouch.

00:05:48.000 So this doesn't have any nicotine in it.

00:05:49.000 It's a bunch of nootropics, which I really like nootropics.

00:05:53.000 Maybe they didn't steal our name, but it's kind of funny.

00:05:55.000 Alpha Brain is the same.

00:05:58.000 Alpha Brain is one of the first ones.

00:05:59.000 The first one that I ever found out was Neuro 1. Remember that guy, Romanowski?

00:06:04.000 Yeah, Romanowski, who was a football player, obviously got a lot of head impacts, and he was having problems with his memory, so he devised a supplement.

00:06:11.000 It's really good.

00:06:12.000 That was the first one I ever found out about.

00:06:14.000 And, I'm sorry, what did you say is in that again?

00:06:16.000 This one?

00:06:16.000 It's got a bunch of different nootropics.

00:06:19.000 No, the word you just said.

00:06:20.000 Nootropics.

00:06:21.000 No, not for the people at home.

00:06:22.000 Not me.

00:06:25.000 What exactly is that nootropic?

00:06:27.000 It's the building block for human neurochemistry.

00:06:31.000 So it's things like acetylcholine.

00:06:35.000 There's a bunch of different ones.

00:06:37.000 If you can, like, show the ingredients for alpha brain, if you could.

00:06:41.000 There's lutein.

00:06:42.000 There's a bunch of different things that have been shown to increase cognitive performance.

00:06:45.000 So we actually did randomized controlled trials at the Boston Center for Memory for Alpha Brain.

00:06:51.000 We sponsored two of them.

00:06:52.000 And it showed an increase in verbal memory, your ability to retain words, which I really find.

00:06:57.000 Like, I take it every time I do a UFC, I take Alpha Brain.

00:07:00.000 Always.

00:07:01.000 Helps my memory.

00:07:02.000 I'm talking about fights from...

00:07:04.000 I've watched 2,000 fights.

00:07:06.000 Yeah, you've been bringing up zingers that everybody forgot about.

00:07:09.000 I've got some Pete Spratt information for you.

00:07:12.000 But it does help.

00:07:13.000 Okay, so...

00:07:15.000 Alpha-GPC, Harpersea, Vitamin B6. Theanine is a really good one, too.

00:07:20.000 Theanine is also in another thing I really like, which is NeuroGum.

00:07:23.000 Yeah, I actually use that.

00:07:25.000 Yep, I have these right here, NeuroMints.

00:07:27.000 I like these.

00:07:28.000 Not a sponsor, just good, good product.

00:07:31.000 Vitamin B6, obviously good for you.

00:07:33.000 So all these things, what it's shown is, if you take these things, it's just like, we know that there's certain nutrients that your body needs.

00:07:41.000 We know we need Vitamin D. And if you're not getting it from the sun, you can supplement it.

00:07:45.000 There's a bunch of different things you can supplement, but you can supplement the things that your brain needs to work at the best level.

00:07:51.000 Speaking of men, you saw the amount of supplements I take, you would go crazy.

00:07:55.000 Oh, I would not.

00:07:57.000 What the fuck are you talking about?

00:08:00.000 If there was one dude in this room that I would come to, who's got the supplements?

00:08:10.000 John Rolo knows about some supplements.

00:08:12.000 What is that?

00:08:14.000 Some Jocko Mulk or some shit?

00:08:15.000 What do you want?

00:08:16.000 What kind of protein do you do?

00:08:18.000 I do have some Jocko's Mulk at the house.

00:08:22.000 Oh, bro.

00:08:23.000 I buy that shit by the case.

00:08:24.000 I have the new one.

00:08:26.000 Sweet Cream?

00:08:28.000 Yeah, Marbell's so great.

00:08:29.000 The steak shake?

00:08:30.000 I love that shit.

00:08:31.000 That's what I've been hitting lately.

00:08:31.000 But what I like about the Jocos is they're already made.

00:08:33.000 I'm lazy.

00:08:34.000 I gotta run out the door.

00:08:35.000 I grab two of those bitches.

00:08:36.000 I got two of those bitches.

00:08:38.000 I got 60 grams of protein.

00:08:39.000 Bam!

00:08:39.000 So you don't get the pre-made ones.

00:08:41.000 You gotta make them?

00:08:42.000 No, I get the powder.

00:08:42.000 And the main reason, too, is because I like to put it in my oatmeal, too.

00:08:46.000 So I'll mix it up like that.

00:08:47.000 Well, I'm not a goat, so I don't be eating oatmeal.

00:08:51.000 Like a fucking goat.

00:08:53.000 I'm eating bacon and eggs.

00:08:54.000 What are you eating?

00:08:55.000 I'm fucking back on.

00:08:56.000 I'm back to being gluten free now.

00:08:58.000 Isn't it funny that when people choke, people used to eat oatmeal if they were starving.

00:09:02.000 Those are people that were like poor people that were just starving to death working in the fields.

00:09:06.000 And now we're like, ooh, a granola.

00:09:09.000 Eat some bacon, you fucking idiot.

00:09:12.000 Get some eggs.

00:09:13.000 Just eat a dozen eggs and some bacon.

00:09:16.000 You feel like you're alive.

00:09:17.000 I hope you don't think I miss many meals.

00:09:19.000 Nah, you ain't missing any meals.

00:09:21.000 You mind if I grab some coffee?

00:09:21.000 Get in there, it's for you.

00:09:24.000 I've seen a, since the last time we spoke, remember the last time we were talking about my ass not to get anything fucked up?

00:09:32.000 I don't want to leave everybody on a cliffhanger.

00:09:41.000 The last we spoke, I was supposed to take a shit in a box to go to the lab.

00:09:47.000 And I had a...

00:09:49.000 It was...

00:09:50.000 I don't know what it was.

00:09:50.000 I just never did it.

00:09:53.000 And then I finally was like, you know what?

00:09:55.000 Fuck it.

00:09:55.000 I'm doing it.

00:09:56.000 And then I changed insurance so I had to get a different doctor.

00:09:59.000 So I had to...

00:10:00.000 Anyway.

00:10:01.000 I seen a holistic doctor, right?

00:10:02.000 So I ended up doing it.

00:10:04.000 Like a witch doctor?

00:10:06.000 Dude, now listen.

00:10:07.000 I was a little nervous too.

00:10:08.000 What is a holistic doctor?

00:10:10.000 Should I be...

00:10:10.000 Is that a real thing?

00:10:12.000 Is that a real thing?

00:10:13.000 Well, listen.

00:10:13.000 I'm going to find out.

00:10:15.000 Thank you, brother.

00:10:16.000 It's Mike G. It's...

00:10:19.000 From Huntington, right?

00:10:20.000 Somebody recommended him.

00:10:21.000 I know what you're thinking.

00:10:22.000 I was thinking the same thing.

00:10:23.000 It's going to be...

00:10:24.000 Do you have any sweetness?

00:10:25.000 We don't.

00:10:26.000 Nah, I'm a...

00:10:27.000 Look at me.

00:10:27.000 Prima Donna.

00:10:28.000 Do we have any out there?

00:10:29.000 No, I don't want to be that guy.

00:10:30.000 Jamie, sit down, please.

00:10:31.000 We got a guy.

00:10:32.000 What do you want?

00:10:32.000 Like Splenda?

00:10:33.000 Yeah, Splenda, Stevia.

00:10:35.000 He's like, I don't want to be that guy.

00:10:36.000 Splenda, Stevia, Stevia.

00:10:39.000 You have any of that mint cream?

00:10:42.000 Jamie, sit down.

00:10:44.000 There's Stevia.

00:10:45.000 Yeah.

00:10:47.000 Listen, first of all, it's hard to get an appointment with a lot of these fucking doctors, you know?

00:10:52.000 Especially the holistic ones.

00:10:53.000 They're all doing voodoo.

00:10:55.000 A lot of ceremonies.

00:11:00.000 My wife started by trying to book these doctors and couldn't get it.

00:11:05.000 So then somebody recommended this guy.

00:11:08.000 So I was expecting a fucking half a hippie sipping wheatgrass.

00:11:12.000 I didn't know what to expect.

00:11:13.000 It was a guy who looked like John Rollo, 59. Strong guy.

00:11:18.000 Nice guy.

00:11:19.000 He was telling me that a lot of these, they just want to put you on meds.

00:11:22.000 They don't look at what caused the problem.

00:11:24.000 They just want to treat the problem.

00:11:27.000 They want to treat the problem.

00:11:29.000 He's like, I want to turn back time with you and shit like that.

00:11:31.000 I don't know.

00:11:32.000 Nice guy.

00:11:33.000 Like a Cher song.

00:11:34.000 Like a Cher song.

00:11:35.000 I thought you said it.

00:11:36.000 I thought you said it.

00:11:38.000 Turn back down.

00:11:39.000 She was pretty, but she had no ass.

00:11:43.000 She didn't have to have an ass back then.

00:11:46.000 She snuck in under the wire.

00:11:48.000 She's still kind of hot.

00:11:49.000 I'd smash.

00:11:51.000 Back in the day she was gorgeous.

00:11:53.000 She looks pretty good today.

00:11:55.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:11:56.000 Right now.

00:11:57.000 The Sonny animal.

00:11:58.000 The Sonny and Cher days.

00:12:00.000 The Sonny and Cher days.

00:12:01.000 She was hot.

00:12:02.000 That's wild that he went on.

00:12:04.000 What did he become?

00:12:05.000 A senator?

00:12:06.000 I think he was the mayor of whatever city he lived in.

00:12:09.000 Clint Eastwood became the mayor of Carmel, California.

00:12:12.000 I do remember that.

00:12:13.000 But I think Sonny Bono was like a senator or something.

00:12:16.000 Wasn't he, Jimmy?

00:12:17.000 Was he a congressman?

00:12:18.000 I knew he got in politics, for sure.

00:12:20.000 But, like, heavy duty into politics.

00:12:21.000 And then he died skiing.

00:12:24.000 Boom!

00:12:25.000 He ran into a tree.

00:12:26.000 Man, that's a motherfucker.

00:12:27.000 I know how Kennedy died, too, though.

00:12:29.000 Yeah, one of the Kennedys died the same way, and in, like, real close proximity to each other.

00:12:33.000 I used to love skiing, man.

00:12:35.000 16th mayor of Palm Springs, California, from 88 to 92. He was a representative.

00:12:39.000 And served as the U.S. Representative for California's 44th District from 1995 to his death in 1998. He was both.

00:12:47.000 He was the mayor, too.

00:12:48.000 Let me ask you.

00:12:49.000 That's pretty crazy.

00:12:51.000 And he's a Republican.

00:12:52.000 I got you, babe.

00:12:53.000 The hippie movement?

00:12:54.000 Right.

00:12:55.000 With the fucking bell bottoms and shit?

00:12:56.000 My thing is this.

00:12:58.000 From Ronald Reagan to Sonny Bono.

00:13:02.000 Do people like the policies or are they just liking the fucking guy?

00:13:05.000 I was just watching Idiocracy the other day.

00:13:07.000 Oh my lord, it's so good.

00:13:08.000 That is the thing.

00:13:09.000 Oh wait, hold on.

00:13:10.000 That's fucking great.

00:13:12.000 So good.

00:13:13.000 It holds up so well.

00:13:14.000 You like the white Terry Crews.

00:13:19.000 He's seeing the council.

00:13:21.000 He's like, yeah, my first wife was tauted.

00:13:23.000 She's a pilot now.

00:13:25.000 No, that movie is fucking great.

00:13:28.000 It's a great movie, man.

00:13:29.000 It's not exactly politically correct, but it's fucking good.

00:13:31.000 It's not at all, but it holds up.

00:13:33.000 You almost couldn't make it today.

00:13:34.000 You can't make any of these.

00:13:35.000 Tropic Thunder.

00:13:36.000 Tropic Thunder would be impossible today.

00:13:38.000 No, you couldn't make that.

00:13:39.000 I gotta watch that again.

00:13:40.000 Impossible today.

00:13:41.000 I haven't watched that in ages.

00:13:42.000 Bro.

00:13:42.000 Great movie.

00:13:43.000 That's a great movie, man.

00:13:45.000 Great movie.

00:13:46.000 That's a great move.

00:13:47.000 Robert Downey Jr., not only was he in blackface, but he was in yellowface.

00:13:51.000 Remember, he came out talking to them about catching Jack Black in the rice paddies and shit.

00:13:57.000 He was hilarious.

00:13:59.000 Easy there, Shane Gillis.

00:14:02.000 I think they're going to be marching on ground control.

00:14:05.000 Listen, man.

00:14:06.000 Asian people take it better than anybody.

00:14:08.000 You know who I know?

00:14:10.000 Emojis.

00:14:12.000 Emojis are all yellow and there's no complaints.

00:14:15.000 Not a single complaint.

00:14:16.000 Not a single complaint.

00:14:17.000 Yup, you're right.

00:14:17.000 Not a single complaint.

00:14:18.000 Asian people just keep working.

00:14:21.000 That's true.

00:14:21.000 They never have a problem.

00:14:22.000 That's what they say.

00:14:24.000 There was legit Asian hate, though, after COVID came out.

00:14:30.000 There was a lot of really dumb people that were just running up to Asian people, hitting them.

00:14:34.000 Yeah, no, I see that a lot.

00:14:36.000 Hitting them, screaming at them.

00:14:36.000 Especially when you look a lot on the subways.

00:14:39.000 Crazy.

00:14:39.000 That's crazy.

00:14:41.000 That's where they need people to step up.

00:14:42.000 But that's real.

00:14:43.000 Yeah, that was like violence, right?

00:14:45.000 That wasn't just, you know, talking.

00:14:46.000 Yeah, it wasn't just like yellow face.

00:14:49.000 You can get away with yellow face.

00:14:52.000 Nobody fucking does shit.

00:14:54.000 You can dress up like a bumblebee.

00:14:56.000 Nobody will freak out.

00:14:57.000 When they got that kid, there was a kid who turned out to actually be Native American who had half of his face.

00:15:03.000 Oh, the Chiefs game.

00:15:04.000 So brilliant.

00:15:06.000 He had literally put on war paint, I think, of the tribe that he's from.

00:15:12.000 Yeah.

00:15:13.000 Right?

00:15:14.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

00:15:15.000 I think it's from the tribe that he's from.

00:15:16.000 One of those websites tried to label it as a fan, a racist fan in blackness.

00:15:22.000 So they only showed this side of his face, where it was dark, and the other side of his face was white, which was like this war paint.

00:15:30.000 Oh no.

00:15:32.000 And the kid turned out to be Indian.

00:15:35.000 Oh no.

00:15:35.000 So they got the double.

00:15:37.000 They were wrong twice.

00:15:38.000 People are just so quick to jump the gun.

00:15:41.000 I'm sick of this woke shit.

00:15:43.000 Let me tell you.

00:15:45.000 Let me tell you loud and clear.

00:15:46.000 I am sick of what they did to fucking Star Wars.

00:15:50.000 They took a shit all over it.

00:15:51.000 I'm a huge Marvel fan.

00:15:54.000 I love everybody.

00:15:55.000 I love everybody.

00:15:57.000 I have three daughters.

00:16:00.000 I love strong female characters.

00:16:04.000 Vasquez from fucking Aliens.

00:16:06.000 Oh, she was badass.

00:16:08.000 Sigourney Weaver.

00:16:09.000 Linda Hamilton.

00:16:11.000 I'll go on.

00:16:12.000 Terminator.

00:16:13.000 How about this?

00:16:16.000 There's nothing wrong with making everybody badass.

00:16:18.000 Now, I'm facing the wrong guys.

00:16:22.000 Did you guys see Ahsoka?

00:16:23.000 I did.

00:16:25.000 What's Ahsoka?

00:16:27.000 It's a Disney Plus show.

00:16:29.000 It's about a Jedi.

00:16:31.000 There she is!

00:16:32.000 Yeah, with Rosario Dawson.

00:16:33.000 Yeah, she's hot.

00:16:36.000 Not to get too geeky on you, but listen.

00:16:39.000 It's too late for that.

00:16:41.000 That ship has sailed.

00:16:43.000 I gotta listen.

00:16:44.000 I gotta go.

00:16:47.000 This is the deal.

00:16:48.000 With Ahsoka...

00:16:52.000 It's based basically off of another show, which was an animated show.

00:16:56.000 Not to get too nerdy on you.

00:16:58.000 First of all, before you pick on me, George St. Pierre watches these same fucking shows.

00:17:04.000 I talk to George about this, and we geek the fuck.

00:17:06.000 I go, George, how do we have a fight?

00:17:09.000 He knows more than me about all this shit.

00:17:12.000 He reads the books.

00:17:13.000 But anyway, this show is a cool show.

00:17:14.000 This show Rebels, right?

00:17:16.000 And it's about this young Jedi...

00:17:20.000 Ezra, right?

00:17:22.000 So now they're doing a live...

00:17:23.000 Guys, stay with me for two seconds.

00:17:25.000 So now the live action comes out, right?

00:17:28.000 And Ezra, at the end of the series, Ezra fights this guy Thrawn and he goes through another dimension and he leaves a fucking hero.

00:17:35.000 And now the next appearance is him live action in this series years later, right?

00:17:42.000 They make him the biggest cuck in the universe, right?

00:17:46.000 This guy was a fucking Jedi.

00:17:49.000 Badass in the cartoon.

00:17:53.000 I'll give you a couple instances, right?

00:17:55.000 They find him.

00:17:56.000 They're on the planet.

00:17:58.000 His friend finds him.

00:17:59.000 I forgot her name, but she gives him a fucking...

00:18:01.000 She's like a Mandalorian.

00:18:02.000 She gives him his lightsaber.

00:18:03.000 Do your thing.

00:18:04.000 Now, look.

00:18:05.000 They can't make him look too cool because he's a dude.

00:18:08.000 They go, hey.

00:18:09.000 He goes, listen, I don't need the lightsaber.

00:18:11.000 The Force is my weapon.

00:18:13.000 So already, boo, right there.

00:18:16.000 Big boo.

00:18:16.000 Really?

00:18:18.000 He's surrounded right now, so he's like doing some fucking hippie shit.

00:18:22.000 It's whatever.

00:18:23.000 Next!

00:18:24.000 This gets me now.

00:18:25.000 You'll relate, Dean.

00:18:26.000 You'll relate to this.

00:18:27.000 I'm with you.

00:18:28.000 Listen, now, they have two of these.

00:18:30.000 He's been on this planet.

00:18:31.000 They find them on.

00:18:31.000 They have two of these horses, these alien horses.

00:18:35.000 It's Ahsoka, the Mandalorian chick, and Ezra.

00:18:39.000 So there's three of them riding.

00:18:41.000 On a motorcycle, when there's two guys riding, now the guy in the back, it's called riding bitch.

00:18:48.000 Who's riding bitch?

00:18:49.000 Ezra!

00:18:50.000 Now is that just because, you know, it just happens to be?

00:18:53.000 No.

00:18:54.000 It's like that on purpose.

00:18:56.000 I get it.

00:19:00.000 You can have both.

00:19:07.000 You can have a strong woman character and a strong man character.

00:19:10.000 Yes!

00:19:11.000 Conan, the barbarian, could be riding on the back of a horse with a chick at the reins and no one would question shit.

00:19:20.000 Right.

00:19:21.000 Well, unless that's...

00:19:22.000 Wait, hold on.

00:19:22.000 Conan would never get on the back of a horse.

00:19:25.000 Fuck that.

00:19:26.000 Unless it's Red Sonja.

00:19:26.000 He thinks she's so badass, he lets her...

00:19:28.000 Yeah, Red Sonja.

00:19:29.000 There you go.

00:19:30.000 He's gotta be humping the chick.

00:19:31.000 He was banging?

00:19:32.000 He's gotta be humping the chick to get on the back.

00:19:34.000 Yeah, she was like the warrior lady.

00:19:35.000 Hold on.

00:19:36.000 I disagree.

00:19:37.000 I don't think he's riding a bitch.

00:19:38.000 Me either.

00:19:38.000 I don't think he would either.

00:19:39.000 As I was saying it, I was like, I can't defend this.

00:19:43.000 I went too deep too fast.

00:19:45.000 I went too fast!

00:19:46.000 Yeah, you didn't take that out all the way!

00:19:49.000 This is fucking good!

00:19:51.000 Okay, maybe John Wick on the back of a motorcycle killing people while his girl drives.

00:19:56.000 Possibly.

00:19:56.000 You know what, man?

00:19:57.000 You wouldn't say John Wick's a pussy.

00:19:59.000 Well, you know.

00:20:00.000 You know what?

00:20:00.000 He's a very polite guy.

00:20:01.000 He's undeniable.

00:20:02.000 He cannot be a cuck.

00:20:03.000 Definitely not.

00:20:04.000 There's a big fucking...

00:20:05.000 But this guy was...

00:20:06.000 But the guy that he's talking about surely was.

00:20:08.000 I mean, I didn't even think he was a badass in the show.

00:20:11.000 But he was a badass in the cartoon.

00:20:13.000 Yeah.

00:20:13.000 So it's like...

00:20:14.000 Wait a minute, but it's all, who wrote it though?

00:20:18.000 Here's the thing, it's not really Star Wars.

00:20:21.000 It's just this new thing that they use in Star Wars, the Star Wars universe.

00:20:26.000 Star Wars is Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader and that's it.

00:20:30.000 It's Obi-Wan Kenobi, it's C-3PO, everything else you're just stealing my money.

00:20:35.000 That's pretty much what I think.

00:20:38.000 Listen, right now, Han Solo would be toxic.

00:20:42.000 Han Solo was the fucking PIMP. How about when Han Solo's about to go with the fucking carbonite?

00:20:49.000 As a kid watching this, as a kid, it's emotional.

00:20:52.000 He's getting lowered into the fucking carbonite.

00:20:55.000 You don't know if he's gonna survive this thing.

00:20:57.000 Chewie's sitting there upset, fucking Lando's being a bit of a, you know, we're unsure about Lando.

00:21:02.000 And Leia!

00:21:03.000 Wait a minute.

00:21:03.000 I love Leia, though.

00:21:05.000 He's a badass.

00:21:06.000 But Leia goes to him, I love you.

00:21:08.000 What the fuck does he say back?

00:21:10.000 Watch this.

00:21:11.000 What does he say back?

00:21:12.000 Could you play it or no?

00:21:14.000 Watch this.

00:21:15.000 He says, I know.

00:21:16.000 Right?

00:21:17.000 Spoilers, Rogan.

00:21:22.000 Watch this.

00:21:23.000 Watch this.

00:21:25.000 Look at that, first of all.

00:21:27.000 Yeah.

00:21:29.000 Watch this.

00:21:31.000 I love you.

00:21:32.000 I know.

00:21:36.000 Yes!

00:21:37.000 Gangster!

00:21:38.000 That's my fucking Star Wars!

00:21:39.000 He doesn't know if he's gonna live!

00:21:42.000 He doesn't, and he does love her, he does.

00:21:44.000 He's the fucking man.

00:21:45.000 I love him so well.

00:21:48.000 Hey, Ezra, Ezra, take notes!

00:21:51.000 Matt Serra, former UFC welterweight champion, is also a nerd.

00:21:55.000 A real, full-on, 100%, full-on nerd.

00:22:01.000 First of all, can I thank you now?

00:22:01.000 Because listen, this show doesn't come without perks.

00:22:03.000 Listen.

00:22:05.000 I was only geeking about VR last time.

00:22:09.000 So all of a sudden, I love that Pop one.

00:22:11.000 I still do.

00:22:11.000 I was just playing it before I got here.

00:22:14.000 Another guy contacted me from Caveman Studios.

00:22:16.000 This guy, Lon.

00:22:17.000 He goes, look, I love how enthusiastic you are.

00:22:19.000 Try this game in beta testing.

00:22:23.000 So it's not even out yet.

00:22:25.000 It's coming out at the end of the month.

00:22:26.000 Contractors Showdown.

00:22:28.000 Fucking money!

00:22:29.000 I don't play anything but Pop 1. Am I getting off the subject?

00:22:32.000 We should talk about MMA. We haven't even got to MMA. Listen, holy shit.

00:22:39.000 It's like Warzone.

00:22:42.000 It's like Call of Duty Warzone.

00:22:44.000 I love the Battle Royale format where it's like a squad and then everybody gets brought in together and you gotta take each other out.

00:22:51.000 That's cool.

00:22:52.000 That's Pop 1. Technically it's Fortnite, not to sound like a nerd.

00:22:56.000 This shit!

00:22:57.000 Contractor Showdown!

00:22:59.000 Fucking nerdgasm.

00:23:00.000 I love it.

00:23:00.000 It's so much fun.

00:23:04.000 You're parachuting in?

00:23:05.000 No, listen.

00:23:06.000 This is the deal.

00:23:06.000 You parachute out.

00:23:08.000 Now, when you go, you loot up, right?

00:23:10.000 You get money.

00:23:11.000 You get shit.

00:23:11.000 You wrap your hands?

00:23:12.000 What the fuck?

00:23:12.000 Well, he must have had some damage.

00:23:15.000 He had to heal up a little bit.

00:23:16.000 So you're fixing to go to war.

00:23:18.000 You got money.

00:23:19.000 Yeah, you get your boys, and then you're like, look.

00:23:21.000 I don't know about that nerd, but look.

00:23:23.000 Look, now that you see the perimeter, dude, everybody gets brought in, you get scopes, you put it on, you get money, you can buy stuff, put it on, and you're taking these guys out, you're sniping them.

00:23:33.000 And this is all in virtual reality.

00:23:34.000 It's in virtual reality.

00:23:36.000 It's fucking cool, dude.

00:23:38.000 That guy likes it, though!

00:23:39.000 You should get a new job reviewing VR games.

00:23:41.000 That's not a bad idea, actually.

00:23:42.000 It's so much fun.

00:23:43.000 Imagine if you had a YouTube channel?

00:23:44.000 People would love watching him review a game.

00:23:46.000 That's actually a great idea.

00:23:47.000 He wouldn't do it, though.

00:23:49.000 Just video him playing the game.

00:23:52.000 Just get someone to film him.

00:23:55.000 He probably won't do it, but get someone to do it.

00:23:57.000 That's a fun game.

00:23:58.000 You should get the UFC to do that.

00:24:00.000 Do you still do the thing with Jimmy?

00:24:03.000 Yeah, man!

00:24:04.000 Me and Jimmy, twice a week.

00:24:06.000 UFC unfiltered Why don't you get the UFC to just film you doing that too as well - I don't know.

00:24:19.000 Dana, are you listening, motherfucker?

00:24:23.000 Dude, it's a no-miss.

00:24:25.000 You'd be fucking awesome at that.

00:24:27.000 You really love these things, your character.

00:24:30.000 I mean, look how enthusiastic he is about it anyway.

00:24:33.000 Yeah, you should 100% be reviewing games.

00:24:35.000 It's so funny, because that could be very sad normally when a 50-year-old's fucking...

00:24:39.000 I'm going to be 50 this year.

00:24:41.000 Last time I was on here, they did a thing called My Dad is a Gamer, and they had me on there fucking being sick.

00:24:46.000 My daughter's watched!

00:24:48.000 I love that shit.

00:24:51.000 It's fun.

00:24:52.000 It's harmless.

00:24:53.000 Since I've known you, you've been on it.

00:24:56.000 It's harmless if you can control it.

00:24:58.000 But they're so fun, you'll wind up wasting your whole life playing video games.

00:25:04.000 My thing is, everything's about balance, like passing the guard, you know?

00:25:09.000 I feel like I deserve it at the end of the day.

00:25:12.000 If I go, I do a 7 a.m.

00:25:13.000 class.

00:25:13.000 I fucking do my podcast.

00:25:15.000 I go back.

00:25:15.000 I'm rolling with my wife.

00:25:16.000 I had a full day.

00:25:17.000 You know what?

00:25:18.000 I deserve two hours.

00:25:21.000 No, an hour.

00:25:21.000 A couple games.

00:25:22.000 Three hours.

00:25:23.000 Yeah, no, you definitely do.

00:25:24.000 But you're a disciplined man.

00:25:26.000 Well, it's fun.

00:25:27.000 But you're a disciplined man.

00:25:28.000 Most people don't have that type of discipline.

00:25:30.000 Yeah, but you're an accomplished martial artist.

00:25:33.000 You run a business.

00:25:35.000 You have a family.

00:25:36.000 So much fun.

00:25:36.000 You're a disciplined man.

00:25:38.000 If you're just a fucking dorky kid who just has a job and that's all you fucking do.

00:25:48.000 It's the same thing with the reefer.

00:25:49.000 If you're a guy doing stuff every day and you're smoking, it could help you.

00:25:54.000 But if you're in that commercial when they're blowing the shit out the window, Hey Ma, the guy's gonna call me back.

00:26:00.000 I left a message for the job.

00:26:02.000 That's a problem.

00:26:03.000 Like, you know what I mean?

00:26:04.000 If you're 30 years old, you're living at home, you're fucking...

00:26:08.000 But, you know, everything is how you use it.

00:26:12.000 Back to...

00:26:12.000 What is that?

00:26:13.000 There's a Star Wars mod for contractors.

00:26:15.000 And women always win.

00:26:16.000 You gotta be a woman character.

00:26:17.000 - What is Contractors?

00:26:18.000 - I know.

00:26:19.000 - What is it now?

00:26:20.000 - He said you gotta be a woman character. - 'Cause the women always win. - Contractors is a game that's all been out forever.

00:26:27.000 I'm not really into it, but the Contractors Showdown is coming out at the end of the month, and that's the Battle Royale version.

00:26:34.000 Nerd.

00:26:35.000 My wife hears me talking about this online, and she's like, you fucking have no idea.

00:26:42.000 You know, she loves me, but it could be a turn-off, I'm sure.

00:26:46.000 Yeah, I don't think it turns them on.

00:26:48.000 It's not a panty dropper.

00:26:49.000 It's not the ultimate panty dropper.

00:26:54.000 You know what fuck it is?

00:26:58.000 Hold on.

00:27:00.000 Oh, here it is.

00:27:01.000 Look at the abs, son.

00:27:06.000 I'm back to gluten-free.

00:27:08.000 I think the Zen thing is making me crazy.

00:27:10.000 It's making you crazy.

00:27:11.000 It's hyping you up.

00:27:13.000 That's great.

00:27:14.000 It's good.

00:27:15.000 I'm going to give you another one in five minutes.

00:27:18.000 No, don't do that.

00:27:20.000 The problem is this.

00:27:22.000 I start the day.

00:27:23.000 Me and him went out to eat last night.

00:27:25.000 We went to the Brazilian joint.

00:27:28.000 And I didn't eat since, because I've got to clear out, because I've got issues.

00:27:31.000 So I woke up, and I had the water, and I had a double shot of espresso.

00:27:36.000 And I was a little down last night, because I had too much, whatever, edible.

00:27:43.000 So I was a little like, I hope I'm not like this tomorrow.

00:27:45.000 So I had a five hour energy.

00:27:47.000 And now I had that and the coffee, so this is what you get.

00:27:49.000 And it's on.

00:27:51.000 I'm having fun.

00:27:52.000 You were talking about coming up with a name for us.

00:27:56.000 Yeah, we need a name.

00:27:57.000 We need a name.

00:27:59.000 A cool Star Wars name.

00:28:03.000 Nerdgasm.

00:28:04.000 How about we just call it Cucks?

00:28:08.000 Just so no one can say shit about us.

00:28:10.000 That's not bad.

00:28:11.000 That's not bad.

00:28:12.000 Cucks.

00:28:14.000 That's actually kind of funny.

00:28:15.000 I was going to say like the OGs, but that's too serious.

00:28:18.000 That's too serious.

00:28:19.000 Cucks might actually work.

00:28:21.000 I like cucks.

00:28:22.000 Cucks?

00:28:22.000 It's not bad.

00:28:23.000 It's not bad.

00:28:25.000 It is ridiculous.

00:28:27.000 Yeah.

00:28:28.000 You know?

00:28:29.000 You want to be cucks?

00:28:30.000 I kind of like it.

00:28:31.000 I don't want to be a cuck.

00:28:32.000 I think I'm kind of enjoying that.

00:28:34.000 Let's placeholder it.

00:28:36.000 Put it aside.

00:28:37.000 Put a bookmark on it.

00:28:38.000 Come back to it later in the day.

00:28:40.000 See how we feel in an hour.

00:28:41.000 Should we take a poll?

00:28:44.000 No, you don't want to let the people be involved.

00:28:46.000 They're going to hijack that shit.

00:28:47.000 We're going to be cucks for sure.

00:28:50.000 That will not be a fair vote.

00:28:55.000 They would try to get us.

00:28:57.000 Johnny, you had one first.

00:28:59.000 You were like the four horsemen?

00:29:01.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:29:01.000 That was a long time ago.

00:29:02.000 I have a weird memory.

00:29:04.000 I remember weird shit.

00:29:05.000 Yeah, that was...

00:29:05.000 Because I remember I'm the furthest thing from a horseman.

00:29:09.000 I'm not exactly a fucking...

00:29:11.000 You need help getting a horse.

00:29:13.000 You know what the problem is?

00:29:15.000 You'll be on a stallion and me and Joe will be on like ponies and shit.

00:29:18.000 You'll be on a mini horse.

00:29:19.000 I want to be on a sturdy mule.

00:29:24.000 I was watching a mule biting a fucking hyena.

00:29:30.000 They use them to bite wolves and coyotes and shit.

00:29:34.000 Mules are mean, man.

00:29:35.000 They're fucking mean.

00:29:36.000 They're smart.

00:29:37.000 Mules.

00:29:38.000 They'll use them to protect the herd and shit.

00:29:40.000 What?

00:29:41.000 Mules are so much smarter than horses.

00:29:43.000 People like them when they travel through the mountains because a mule won't go anywhere where it's not safe.

00:29:48.000 A mule will go, uh-uh, bitch.

00:29:50.000 I know better.

00:29:51.000 I'm not going over there.

00:29:53.000 That edge is too steep.

00:29:54.000 We're falling.

00:29:56.000 That makes sense.

00:29:56.000 A horse is just like...

00:30:00.000 Horses just go right off the edge, man.

00:30:03.000 They just listen.

00:30:04.000 You gotta not stand behind those motherfuckers, though.

00:30:06.000 Horses?

00:30:07.000 Whip!

00:30:07.000 Either one of them.

00:30:08.000 A mule?

00:30:09.000 Either one.

00:30:09.000 Horse kick you?

00:30:10.000 Oh my god.

00:30:11.000 I watched a horse kill another horse.

00:30:13.000 No.

00:30:13.000 Yeah, in a video.

00:30:14.000 Online.

00:30:15.000 That's what I'm talking about!

00:30:16.000 That's crazy.

00:30:17.000 I'll spit up my coffee.

00:30:18.000 That's a donkey.

00:30:19.000 What'd I say?

00:30:20.000 They don't fuck around.

00:30:21.000 A mule.

00:30:21.000 A mule is a cross.

00:30:22.000 What's the difference?

00:30:23.000 A mule is a cross between a horse and a donkey.

00:30:25.000 Look at this.

00:30:25.000 And they're not viable.

00:30:27.000 Yeah, but wouldn't you think that the hyena would fuck this thing up?

00:30:29.000 Really?

00:30:29.000 Yeah.

00:30:30.000 Yeah, you would think so, but it looks like that hyena is fucking tranquilized.

00:30:35.000 Something.

00:30:35.000 Because they're videotaping this.

00:30:37.000 It almost looks like they're playing.

00:30:39.000 Yeah, maybe it does look like they're playing.

00:30:41.000 That doesn't seem very playful.

00:30:43.000 That seems pretty violent on the donkey's part.

00:30:47.000 It's like Hawaii playing, but he's not...

00:30:48.000 I don't know, man.

00:30:49.000 I don't think they play like that.

00:30:52.000 I think it recognizes that that's a predator and it wants it to fuck away from it.

00:30:58.000 Yeah, that's what I think it is, man.

00:30:59.000 And that thing's trying to bite it.

00:31:01.000 Like, what is going on here?

00:31:03.000 It's three and a half, four minutes of it.

00:31:04.000 Bro, this is some gay shit.

00:31:05.000 I know, right?

00:31:07.000 They're sniffing assholes.

00:31:08.000 Maybe they're our friends.

00:31:09.000 Maybe I'm out of line.

00:31:10.000 Maybe they're friends.

00:31:11.000 Maybe the hyena and the donkey will get along, but probably not.

00:31:15.000 They're fucking predator and prey animals.

00:31:18.000 Yeah, right.

00:31:20.000 But if they kick you, man, so there's a video of these beautiful horses, man, and they're in this corral, and this one horse just starts kicking, and he just kicks the other horse in the head, and the head- And it dies?

00:31:33.000 Like it dies right then and there?

00:31:34.000 It dies like it got shot, like plop!

00:31:36.000 That's crazy.

00:31:36.000 Just falls down, legs stiff.

00:31:40.000 Killed it.

00:31:41.000 There's times I'm in the fucking bathroom like an hour at a clip in the middle of the night.

00:31:45.000 All I do is watch those fucking Animals on Animals fucking...

00:31:49.000 Nature's Metal.

00:31:50.000 You know all the Facebook videos?

00:31:52.000 I'm either watching like the world-style hip-hop fights.

00:31:55.000 I watch that more than regular fights.

00:31:57.000 I don't know why.

00:31:58.000 Because they're more fun.

00:31:59.000 I saw one today.

00:32:00.000 I don't think we could play it.

00:32:01.000 It probably violates rules.

00:32:03.000 But this dude is on the ground and he's basically like fighting this guy.

00:32:08.000 He's got a helmet on.

00:32:09.000 It looks like there was some sort of a traffic altercation.

00:32:11.000 And the guy who's on the ground has a dude and he's like setting up a heel hook.

00:32:15.000 And the guy's trying to attack him.

00:32:17.000 And then the other guy comes over and punches him and then they separate him.

00:32:20.000 And when they separated him, the dude who's on the ground, who's like holding the guy like he's gonna set up a heel hook, pulls a gun out and shoots him in the dick.

00:32:27.000 Oh my god!

00:32:29.000 Yes.

00:32:29.000 Just like this.

00:32:30.000 Boom!

00:32:31.000 Shoots him in the dick.

00:32:33.000 Oh!

00:32:35.000 What the fuck?

00:32:36.000 Bro, it's rough.

00:32:37.000 Wanna watch it?

00:32:41.000 Absolutely!

00:32:41.000 100%, right?

00:32:42.000 There's some things you can't unsee.

00:32:44.000 Yeah, but you never ask.

00:32:46.000 Yeah, but you gotta see this.

00:32:47.000 It's so funny, man.

00:32:48.000 You gotta see it because I had to watch it because it's an Instagram reel.

00:32:52.000 I had to watch it a couple of times just to try to figure out what exactly was going on.

00:32:58.000 I always like to see what's going on out there, you know?

00:33:01.000 I always like to...

00:33:03.000 No, no.

00:33:04.000 Hold on a second.

00:33:05.000 Oh, good.

00:33:05.000 Get us, get us score with some other shit, Jamie.

00:33:07.000 Yeah.

00:33:08.000 Hold on a second.

00:33:11.000 Was this chick up there last time or am I fucking crazy?

00:33:17.000 Yeah, she's always on.

00:33:18.000 Okay, I sent it to you.

00:33:19.000 Okay, this is the horse.

00:33:20.000 Watch this.

00:33:21.000 So this horse, it just kicks that horse's head.

00:33:24.000 Boom.

00:33:25.000 Dead.

00:33:25.000 Is it dead?

00:33:26.000 Yep, dead.

00:33:27.000 Look at his legs.

00:33:28.000 Good lord.

00:33:28.000 It died.

00:33:29.000 Look at his legs.

00:33:32.000 Oh!

00:33:32.000 Wow!

00:33:33.000 Yep.

00:33:33.000 Bro, you get hit by one of those, you might as well get shot.

00:33:37.000 That's a hoof at the end of an 800-pounder beast.

00:33:42.000 Okay, now show the guy getting shot in the dick.

00:33:44.000 Did you ever try horse meat, by the way?

00:33:47.000 Is it good?

00:33:48.000 It tastes like wild game.

00:33:49.000 I tried it in Montreal.

00:33:50.000 There's this amazing restaurant in Montreal called Joe Beef.

00:33:53.000 And me and Duncan and Ari ate there.

00:33:56.000 And they served you...

00:33:57.000 They had horse tartare.

00:34:01.000 So it's essentially raw horse.

00:34:03.000 And then they had, like, a horse filet.

00:34:05.000 They served us horse filet.

00:34:07.000 I was like, wow, this is weird.

00:34:08.000 You know who used to eat horse meat?

00:34:09.000 Patrick Cote.

00:34:10.000 Remember when he was in the house?

00:34:11.000 Yeah, we used to get a list of what we could put on there, what we wanted, and he put horse meat on his list, and we was like, what the fuck?

00:34:18.000 Smart.

00:34:18.000 He knew nobody would fuck with it.

00:34:20.000 That's all those dudes up north in Canada, you know?

00:34:22.000 He's a Montreal guy.

00:34:23.000 I almost don't want to see this, bro.

00:34:24.000 Yeah, you do.

00:34:25.000 Yeah, you do.

00:34:25.000 So watch this.

00:34:26.000 Why are you saying that?

00:34:27.000 So this guy...

00:34:28.000 This has got to be Brazil.

00:34:29.000 I don't know, but look.

00:34:30.000 See, the other guy comes over and kicks him.

00:34:33.000 They push him away.

00:34:33.000 Now watch this.

00:34:36.000 Keep an eye on the guy on the bottom.

00:34:38.000 He's got a gun?

00:34:39.000 Yep, watch here.

00:34:42.000 Come on, man.

00:34:42.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:34:44.000 Oh, fuck.

00:34:48.000 Yeah.

00:34:48.000 Wait, is he still fighting?

00:34:49.000 No, no, no.

00:34:51.000 Whoa.

00:34:52.000 Whoa.

00:34:53.000 I mean, whoa.

00:34:54.000 He's a eunuch.

00:34:55.000 Whoa.

00:34:58.000 And the best is, it looks like they're doing a little, alright.

00:35:00.000 That's definitely Brazil.

00:35:03.000 That guy's got a stripe or two on his back.

00:35:05.000 But I don't think that could be just...

00:35:07.000 Oh, fuck!

00:35:09.000 Come on, man!

00:35:10.000 Bro, bro, bro, bro.

00:35:12.000 Dude, keep that shit between you and Tom Segura.

00:35:14.000 I don't need to see that shit.

00:35:16.000 I don't want to be part of that fucking text.

00:35:18.000 Oh, man, that shit hurt me.

00:35:19.000 It hurt me just to watch it.

00:35:21.000 Fuck.

00:35:22.000 Oh, no.

00:35:23.000 You gotta wonder what other damage that did.

00:35:25.000 Oh, it's over.

00:35:27.000 Oh, what other damage?

00:35:28.000 You lost his dick, Raul.

00:35:29.000 I think he lost everything.

00:35:31.000 He lost a lot.

00:35:32.000 That bullet probably blew his hip apart.

00:35:35.000 You gotta really try to avoid everything in the street.

00:35:41.000 Everything.

00:35:42.000 Everything.

00:35:42.000 That's what I always tell Dean Thomas, the troublemaker.

00:35:44.000 What?

00:35:44.000 I always gotta stop him from fighting.

00:35:48.000 That's not true.

00:35:49.000 Dean does mellow me out, though.

00:35:50.000 Yeah, I gotta stop him.

00:35:51.000 Every time we do a show, he almost gets in a fight.

00:35:54.000 First of all, first of all, not true.

00:35:57.000 But second of all, we did that fucking cold plunge.

00:36:03.000 Let me ask you something about the degrees of that, because I'm thinking about adding this into my routine.

00:36:09.000 The cold punch?

00:36:09.000 I swear, man, because I start my day with a steam.

00:36:11.000 I'm thinking about putting a small one in my locker room upstairs in my thing.

00:36:16.000 But it was fucking brutal, is what it was.

00:36:19.000 When we did it, it was 32 degrees?

00:36:22.000 34. Okay, I'm trying to make it worse.

00:36:25.000 34 for three minutes.

00:36:28.000 Is that pussy shit?

00:36:30.000 No, that's normal.

00:36:31.000 Yeah, that's what I do every day.

00:36:33.000 34?

00:36:34.000 34. Three minutes every day.

00:36:35.000 That was fucking...

00:36:36.000 I do it before my workout.

00:36:37.000 But did you...

00:36:38.000 Alright, next question is, did you build up to that?

00:36:40.000 Yes.

00:36:41.000 Wow.

00:36:41.000 Two days?

00:36:43.000 Two days to build up to that?

00:36:45.000 The third day I did 20 minutes.

00:36:47.000 Stop.

00:36:47.000 No, I did.

00:36:48.000 I filmed it.

00:36:49.000 At 34?

00:36:49.000 At 34 degrees.

00:36:51.000 Yeah, I wanted to see how long it could go.

00:36:52.000 That's pretty crazy.

00:36:53.000 Well, look.

00:36:54.000 You know somebody watch?

00:36:55.000 All I know is, no, nobody's watching.

00:36:57.000 We handled it differently.

00:36:59.000 Yeah, we sure did.

00:37:00.000 He was quiet and then once in a while you hear like a Goggins come out of him like I can handle this Fucking I just wouldn't shut the fuck up He wouldn't shut the fuck up.

00:37:11.000 I was thinking to myself, he shut the fuck up, I can't concentrate in this.

00:37:15.000 I had to keep myself, I wanted to jump the fuck out.

00:37:17.000 And Dana was right there.

00:37:20.000 Did he do it?

00:37:21.000 He did it.

00:37:22.000 How long?

00:37:23.000 But he does it every day.

00:37:25.000 That's right.

00:37:26.000 I'm pretty sure he told me he does it at like 50 degrees.

00:37:28.000 Yeah.

00:37:29.000 Alright.

00:37:29.000 What the fuck is happening?

00:37:30.000 Is it okay to do it at 50 degrees?

00:37:31.000 Yeah, it's okay.

00:37:32.000 Look, it's still cold.

00:37:34.000 I don't think it has the same amount of an effect, probably, but I'm just guessing.

00:37:41.000 It might be the same thing.

00:37:42.000 If you did like 50 degrees for like five minutes, maybe that's the same as like 34 degrees for three minutes or two minutes.

00:37:49.000 I don't know.

00:37:50.000 Well, then I'll do that.

00:37:51.000 Maybe.

00:37:52.000 It was brutal.

00:37:53.000 I like the part where I don't want to do it and then I do it.

00:37:56.000 I like that.

00:37:57.000 Yeah, and you do it in the morning?

00:37:58.000 First time.

00:37:59.000 Like, how do you do that in the morning?

00:38:00.000 Like, that's the last thing that I want to do when I wake up.

00:38:03.000 Probably the best time.

00:38:04.000 Exactly.

00:38:05.000 That's why you do it.

00:38:06.000 You do it.

00:38:06.000 It's easy.

00:38:07.000 It's an easy win.

00:38:08.000 It's over and done.

00:38:08.000 It's an easy win.

00:38:09.000 Imagine if all day you were thinking about, oh, I got to do it.

00:38:13.000 I got to get it in and get it done.

00:38:14.000 It's also, you know you don't want to do it, and yet you did it.

00:38:17.000 So it's an easy win.

00:38:19.000 Well, I felt like that after we finished.

00:38:21.000 So I bought one, but I purposely didn't put it together yet.

00:38:25.000 Just so I didn't have to do it.

00:38:26.000 Just got it.

00:38:27.000 Just so I had to look at that motherfucker and make myself look like a bitch.

00:38:32.000 That's awesome.

00:38:33.000 I think it's an easy thing to add to my morning routine.

00:38:36.000 Because I have a nice routine as it is.

00:38:37.000 I start at 7 a.m.

00:38:39.000 I do that class.

00:38:40.000 I get up at 5. I get there early.

00:38:41.000 I get my head straight and I get in the steam.

00:38:43.000 That nice steam after that.

00:38:45.000 So I don't...

00:38:46.000 You know...

00:38:47.000 I like getting my head straight, but I don't like smelling bad, so I like to, like, afterwards.

00:38:51.000 I'm just, I'm in this, I'm zen mode, man.

00:38:53.000 And I'm caffeined up.

00:38:54.000 Now you're in zen mode.

00:38:58.000 I see what you did there.

00:38:59.000 I like that.

00:39:00.000 I might get into that shit.

00:39:02.000 I like it.

00:39:03.000 As long as I'm not fucking craving, like, Marlboros if I get off this shit or something.

00:39:08.000 I'm not going to want to fucking want nicotine, am I? Or need it?

00:39:11.000 Well, just don't get it.

00:39:14.000 What?

00:39:14.000 Don't get more of it.

00:39:16.000 I'm saying if I stop the zit, am I going to want more of it?

00:39:20.000 Well, I don't know how your body works, but a lot of people get addicted to it.

00:39:24.000 Well, thanks for turning me on to it, you fucking crack pusher.

00:39:27.000 Thank you.

00:39:28.000 It's good for you.

00:39:29.000 Is it good for you, though?

00:39:30.000 I think it's good for your brain.

00:39:31.000 Well, then there you go.

00:39:32.000 I'm on it.

00:39:33.000 Yeah.

00:39:34.000 But I think, you know, you got to be careful if you're one of those guys.

00:39:37.000 Well, I mean, how many of them do you take a day?

00:39:40.000 Yeah, talk to me, Jamie.

00:39:42.000 Look out for me.

00:39:42.000 Nicotine prevents the formation in the test tube of protein clumps linked to Alzheimer's disease, scientists announced at a press conference today.

00:39:57.000 The finding may provide a useful starting point for developing drugs that delay or prevent the disease.

00:40:03.000 Research is quick to caution, however, that harmful effects of smoking, strengthened by a report in science last week, linking a carcinogen byproduct of cigarette smoke to a specific kind of lung tumor, far outweigh any possible benefit from nicotine and tobacco.

00:40:16.000 But what they're saying is, don't smoke.

00:40:19.000 But the nicotine itself?

00:40:20.000 Yeah.

00:40:21.000 I think nicotine itself...

00:40:23.000 Nicotine definitely is a nootropic, right?

00:40:25.000 Like, if you can Google that.

00:40:26.000 So it's a substance that's been shown to enhance cognitive function.

00:40:32.000 It's one of the things that, like, Stephen King said when he stopped smoking.

00:40:35.000 He said that was one of the hardest things for his writing.

00:40:37.000 He said, like, his synapses didn't fire as fast.

00:40:41.000 Oh, what does this say?

00:40:43.000 Nicotine's cognitive effects have gained significant attention in recent decades, and some non-smokers have even started using nicotine gum or patches as a nootropic.

00:40:53.000 Research has shown that nicotine can speed up reaction time, improve working memory, and enhance focus and attention.

00:40:59.000 What?

00:41:00.000 Dude?

00:41:00.000 Yeah.

00:41:01.000 You got me!

00:41:02.000 I know!

00:41:03.000 You got me!

00:41:03.000 Watch me in VR now!

00:41:05.000 I'm gonna fucking kill everybody!

00:41:06.000 Let's get ready to say, take it before you play.

00:41:07.000 That's nice, man.

00:41:08.000 I might fuck around with that.

00:41:09.000 Interesting, right?

00:41:10.000 Interesting.

00:41:11.000 Yeah, man, as long as it's...

00:41:12.000 I think I'm going to go up with the alpha brain.

00:41:14.000 That's great.

00:41:15.000 I'm interested in anything that gives you a positive effect on your brain.

00:41:21.000 Or also, what about dick pills?

00:41:24.000 Anything that has a positive effect on your life.

00:41:27.000 You know?

00:41:29.000 It's fun to party.

00:41:32.000 Yeah, I used to take the Alpha Brain all the time.

00:41:34.000 Then I ran out and forgot.

00:41:35.000 Oh, we'll get you some.

00:41:36.000 We'll get you some.

00:41:37.000 I'll get some sent to you.

00:41:38.000 But all those other ones are really good, too.

00:41:41.000 That Neuro One shit, that stuff's great.

00:41:43.000 You can put it in a protein shake.

00:41:45.000 Or you can just drink by itself, taste good.

00:41:47.000 There's a bunch of them.

00:41:48.000 How many of the Zen things would you do a day?

00:41:50.000 Like one?

00:41:51.000 It takes me a few days to go through one packet.

00:41:54.000 I don't know how many is in a packet.

00:41:56.000 Oh, so would you take more than one a day?

00:41:59.000 Yeah, I'll take one, two, three a day, four a day if I feel like it, yeah.

00:42:04.000 And you feel a difference?

00:42:06.000 Yeah, but I do like to know that I can take days off.

00:42:09.000 I take days off, I'm like, how do I feel?

00:42:10.000 I feel fine.

00:42:11.000 You do feel fine?

00:42:12.000 I don't feel weird.

00:42:13.000 Do you use it before a podcast or before you do a show?

00:42:17.000 I like it during podcasts.

00:42:19.000 So you see, it has to have a purpose.

00:42:21.000 This is also the same reason why I drink coffee a lot.

00:42:24.000 I'm trying to keep my brain going if I'm talking to really smart people.

00:42:27.000 I was happy when I saw that guy and he was telling me what I should...

00:42:30.000 Because I got my...

00:42:32.000 Did I tell you?

00:42:33.000 So I took the shit in the box.

00:42:34.000 Oh yeah, the shit in the box.

00:42:35.000 Stop that story.

00:42:36.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:42:37.000 Get back to the shit in the box.

00:42:40.000 I'm sorry.

00:42:40.000 So after I saw the guy and he gave me the sample, I go, all right, listen, I'm going to knock this thing out.

00:42:46.000 It took me a while.

00:42:47.000 It was months before I did it.

00:42:48.000 But then I find...

00:42:49.000 Now, real quick, does the shit in the box go to a doctor or to a holistic doctor?

00:42:54.000 No, they come and pick it up and then they go to a lab and then he gets the results.

00:42:58.000 Is this for a doctor's doctor?

00:42:59.000 So he gets the results from it.

00:43:01.000 We wanted to find out what's the definition of holistic.

00:43:04.000 The problem might be in just that people have co-opted that term and use that term holistic for a bunch of hippie shit.

00:43:11.000 But a holistic doctor...

00:43:13.000 I'm telling you.

00:43:14.000 Holistic approach.

00:43:16.000 What is the exact definition of holistic?

00:43:19.000 And I said, I can smell bullshit.

00:43:20.000 You know, when I met the guy, I'm like, again, I was expecting half a hippie, and he seemed...

00:43:24.000 Okay.

00:43:25.000 Characterized by the belief that the parts of something are interconnected and can be explained only by reference to the whole.

00:43:31.000 Well, that's logical.

00:43:32.000 Here's a medicine definition.

00:43:33.000 Characterized as a treatment of the whole person, taking into account mental and social factors rather than just the symptoms of an illness.

00:43:40.000 Okay.

00:43:40.000 Many people conclude that holistic medicines are beneficial.

00:43:43.000 So, the problem is not...

00:43:45.000 Like, when I hear that word, holistic, I think bullshit art.

00:43:50.000 Already, just hippies, fucking...

00:43:52.000 But if you're talking about medicine, it totally makes sense.

00:43:55.000 I agree.

00:43:55.000 It's just, it's been co-opted.

00:43:57.000 Right.

00:43:58.000 It's a good word.

00:43:59.000 We were doing a Zoom thing with me...

00:44:01.000 Him and my wife, you know, because he wanted her there because, you know, I'm like a bad kid.

00:44:06.000 I don't want to eat vegetables.

00:44:07.000 And I don't know what he's going to tell me to eat and shit.

00:44:08.000 I don't like eating bad...

00:44:11.000 You know, I'm picky my eating.

00:44:12.000 Right.

00:44:12.000 So I was afraid what he was going to tell me.

00:44:15.000 So when we went on there, he was showing me all the stuff that...

00:44:19.000 Well first, let me tell you how I took the shit first.

00:44:21.000 So I was afraid of taking the shit because you never know how it comes out and I was really like, I didn't know where to do it.

00:44:30.000 So I went to my...

00:44:31.000 You guys don't have to hear about it.

00:44:35.000 You're in now.

00:44:38.000 So I go to my school.

00:44:42.000 I like to keep stuff somewhat spicy with me and my wife, so I don't want to do that.

00:44:46.000 My house guy forbid it goes all over.

00:44:48.000 So I go to my shower at my school, right?

00:44:53.000 And I'm basically...

00:44:54.000 Thank goodness it wasn't all over the place.

00:44:57.000 And I was doing more of like a standing...

00:44:59.000 I was almost like a rodeo rider.

00:45:01.000 So you're catching it?

00:45:02.000 You really gotta make sure your wrist stays parallel.

00:45:05.000 Yeah, could you imagine?

00:45:06.000 For real.

00:45:06.000 If you get a little accidental dip in your shit, then you gotta scoop that back off the tile.

00:45:13.000 You know what's bad about it?

00:45:14.000 Everything.

00:45:17.000 Everything.

00:45:17.000 There's nothing good about it.

00:45:19.000 But I have to know what's going on with my gut.

00:45:22.000 So after I took the shit, you gotta, it's almost like, and it really ruined my love of Nutella, because I used to always like the fucking little scoops with the, because you gotta take a little spoon, In your shit, and he goes, make sure you get different signs of it.

00:45:37.000 There's a watery part of this.

00:45:40.000 So I'm in there, and you gotta put it in a little vial.

00:45:45.000 And gossip is...

00:45:46.000 You guys wanted to hear about it.

00:45:50.000 So after that, you take it, you shake it off.

00:45:53.000 And then you put it in an envelope and you ship it off.

00:45:55.000 So that was the story of that.

00:45:58.000 And then when they seen the stuff that was highlighted in the red zone, like what is going to be affecting my gut?

00:46:04.000 I think he said there was like a parasite thing in there.

00:46:08.000 You had spaghetti.

00:46:09.000 There was like a parasite.

00:46:14.000 I don't know what the fuck.

00:46:16.000 He goes, do you have animals?

00:46:20.000 I'm like, no, I don't fucking have animals.

00:46:22.000 I don't know what the fuck.

00:46:23.000 But there was also like a big bacteria in there, you know?

00:46:26.000 So the clear of that bacteria, I'm drinking a shake, this thorn-type shake.

00:46:31.000 I don't know if it's called thorn, but it's that.

00:46:33.000 And I'm on different supplements from...

00:46:35.000 I don't eat vegetables, so there's these...

00:46:38.000 I got these four green pills.

00:46:40.000 You got me on supplements and...

00:46:42.000 We'll see how it goes.

00:46:43.000 It's fresh.

00:46:44.000 It's only like a weekend.

00:46:45.000 Because it took me forever to do that shit in the box.

00:46:48.000 So I'll let you know how it works.

00:46:49.000 I don't know how it is yet.

00:46:51.000 Ari Shafir was on Legion of Skanks, this podcast they do.

00:46:55.000 So they film it live in front of an audience.

00:46:58.000 And Ari had taken a shit in a Tupperware.

00:47:02.000 And brought it on stage.

00:47:03.000 Who'd he give it to?

00:47:04.000 Luis Gomez?

00:47:05.000 No, why?

00:47:06.000 Who'd he give it to?

00:47:07.000 Big J? Yeah, birthday surprise.

00:47:09.000 It was a birthday surprise.

00:47:10.000 Oh, no.

00:47:11.000 Ari is out of his fucking mind, dude.

00:47:13.000 So, he opens up.

00:47:16.000 They open up this Tupperware, and the smell is just...

00:47:18.000 No, come on.

00:47:19.000 Oh, man.

00:47:22.000 People start running out of the room.

00:47:25.000 Good Lord.

00:47:26.000 Is there a video of that?

00:47:27.000 There's nothing worse than the smell of human shit.

00:47:29.000 I don't know if that'd be it.

00:47:30.000 In a Tupperware for days.

00:47:32.000 Yours is bad enough.

00:47:34.000 Mine's bad enough.

00:47:35.000 Like, when you take a horrific shit, and then someone in your family goes in there after you, and you're like, I'm so sorry.

00:47:42.000 I'm sorry, Menas, but I'm gonna do it.

00:47:44.000 You met my boy Menas.

00:47:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:47:47.000 We were in California.

00:47:49.000 We were hanging out.

00:47:51.000 We hit one of them Del Tacos.

00:47:54.000 So the food was fucking alright.

00:47:56.000 He's got to take a shit.

00:47:58.000 He comes out of the fucking bathroom, dry heaving, his eyes watering from his own shit.

00:48:04.000 That was the fucking...

00:48:05.000 You know me too.

00:48:06.000 That amazed me.

00:48:08.000 That's insane.

00:48:09.000 This motherfucker come out.

00:48:09.000 I'm talking.

00:48:10.000 He was like...

00:48:11.000 His eyes are watering.

00:48:13.000 It was his own shit, man.

00:48:14.000 What's the name of his diner?

00:48:17.000 Valentino's.

00:48:17.000 Love it.

00:48:18.000 Bro, that is hilarious.

00:48:19.000 Your own shit is so bad, you're dry heaving.

00:48:22.000 Oh, come on!

00:48:22.000 This is it!

00:48:23.000 Oh, no!

00:48:24.000 Wait, go from the beginning.

00:48:25.000 Go from the beginning.

00:48:27.000 I don't think you'll see it.

00:48:31.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:48:37.000 Look at his smile.

00:48:40.000 Is that Mickey Gall?

00:48:40.000 Bro, I'm gagging just looking at that.

00:48:45.000 That's disgusting.

00:48:48.000 That's Mickey Gall right there.

00:48:49.000 It looks like Mickey Gall.

00:48:50.000 I think it is Mickey.

00:48:52.000 I think it is Mickey.

00:48:53.000 Dude I legit almost threw up.

00:48:55.000 Did you see that Jamie?

00:48:57.000 I legit almost threw up.

00:49:00.000 I can't look at that.

00:49:02.000 Get that off the screen and it will throw up.

00:49:04.000 How about Ari not able to look away from it?

00:49:06.000 I know, right?

00:49:07.000 He looks like a proud dad.

00:49:09.000 He's fucking smiling Like a brown dad Oh my god Look at him It is funny though He's a psycho He's the best Ari is the best.

00:49:25.000 He's such a psycho.

00:49:26.000 He's crazy.

00:49:26.000 Is he still training?

00:49:28.000 Nah, he fucked his knee up.

00:49:30.000 Fucked his knee up then quit.

00:49:32.000 He trained for a little bit though.

00:49:34.000 Got a brand new knee.

00:49:35.000 Everybody's tapping out now.

00:49:36.000 They got their fucking knees.

00:49:37.000 Me too.

00:49:38.000 Well, you're still rolling, even with the new knee, right?

00:49:40.000 I am, but I'm a little more choosy.

00:49:43.000 Does it have the same stability?

00:49:47.000 I lost you for a second.

00:49:48.000 What's that?

00:49:48.000 Does it have the same stability?

00:49:49.000 Like, what is it like?

00:49:50.000 The problem is, I was rolling with one of my buddies Abe, my black belt Abe, and I'd always meet up with him because we have nice training sessions.

00:49:58.000 And it's not, I don't think it's my knee as much.

00:50:01.000 Remember I told you I tore my quad in the rehab?

00:50:03.000 Like I was stepping down too high and I tore that shit, so it's a little deformed.

00:50:06.000 And I went to butterfly sweep them.

00:50:08.000 And when I went to butterfly sweep them, something popped on the outside.

00:50:12.000 Like if I show you my leg, it's something on that knee.

00:50:15.000 And I don't know what I strained or what I pulled.

00:50:17.000 I don't know what MCLs I have left.

00:50:19.000 I don't know what the fuck's there.

00:50:20.000 But it felt weak for a bit after that.

00:50:22.000 So I haven't rolled super hard since.

00:50:24.000 And that was over a month ago.

00:50:25.000 Do you do any of that like knees over toes stuff?

00:50:29.000 I heard about that, man.

00:50:30.000 I've seen guys do it and it seems like it works.

00:50:33.000 It does work.

00:50:36.000 There's a guy, Knees over toes guy on Instagram, and this dude had gone through a bunch of knee surgeries and, you know, like real problems and realized that part of the problem was he wasn't strengthening all the stabilizing muscles all in and around his knee.

00:50:51.000 With like tibia raises and with those step downs and walking backwards on a treadmill.

00:50:58.000 Backwards with a sled too.

00:51:00.000 Yeah, and Nordic curls when you're lying on your chest and you bring your body up only with your legs.

00:51:06.000 Hamstrings.

00:51:06.000 Crazy.

00:51:07.000 Yeah, with your hamstrings.

00:51:08.000 I do those every day.

00:51:09.000 I do those too on a slant board.

00:51:10.000 Yeah, I have a slant board.

00:51:11.000 But those Nordic curls are so fucking hard to do.

00:51:14.000 Like when you first do it, you're like, oh my god, this is crazy.

00:51:17.000 Dude, they're super hard to do.

00:51:17.000 So the whole idea is about strengthening all the muscles that stabilize the knee, and most people are just using the leg, and they're hoping that all that work gets done.

00:51:26.000 But if you really want to make your legs really strong, where the knees are really stable, you really want to do things that stabilize that.

00:51:34.000 I mean, think about how much of a knee injury puts you out.

00:51:37.000 Every elite athlete should be doing this kind of shit.

00:51:41.000 Yeah.

00:51:41.000 Like, I have pretty bad patella tendinitis in my left knee, and it's helped pretty much eliminate it.

00:51:46.000 Yeah, it's pretty impressive stuff, and this guy gives it all away for free because his philosophy was, look, if I was an 11-year-old that had a knee injury, I would want this available to me.

00:51:56.000 And so he's a fucking awesome guy.

00:51:59.000 He's been on the podcast before.

00:52:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:52:02.000 I gotta start doing that shit.

00:52:03.000 But his stuff is rock solid, man.

00:52:06.000 I mean, my knees feel so much better when doing that.

00:52:08.000 Yeah.

00:52:10.000 Split squats.

00:52:12.000 Slant board, body weight squats.

00:52:14.000 I do a hundred of those every day.

00:52:16.000 I do the Nordic curls.

00:52:17.000 I do all that shit.

00:52:18.000 That's where I got to get on that slant board and step off and touch your heel to the floor, too.

00:52:23.000 Yeah, that's great.

00:52:24.000 I got to be more disciplined with that shit.

00:52:26.000 You use the sled, the backwards, walking backwards with the sled?

00:52:30.000 I'll do it for like 10 minutes.

00:52:31.000 Amazing.

00:52:31.000 Throw a couple plates on and just...

00:52:33.000 Back and forth, back and forth.

00:52:35.000 So that worked, because I got no meniscus in my left knee.

00:52:38.000 And I just always feel the bone grinding.

00:52:42.000 We were talking about the cadaver meniscus.

00:52:45.000 They do do that now.

00:52:46.000 You looked in any like Gel 1 or Synvisc 2, like sometimes you can get a shot that'll help with some of that.

00:52:52.000 It only lasts four to six months, but it's better than having your knee grind.

00:52:56.000 I got one of those once and it didn't really seem to help me.

00:52:58.000 Didn't help you?

00:52:59.000 No.

00:53:00.000 Yeah, mine I liked and then I got the stem cells.

00:53:03.000 But I've talked to people that had no meniscus at all and they got one of those things and I was like my knee was brand new again for months.

00:53:10.000 I had a guy, he's a firefighter, my buddy Carl, his knee was jacked and he's the one that told me about the gel one and all and he was doing it and it allowed him to come back and train and everything and eventually insurance wouldn't pay for the shot but they would pay for his knee replacement.

00:53:26.000 It's so crazy.

00:53:27.000 Instead of a $1,500 shot, they'll play 50 Gs.

00:53:30.000 It's a scam.

00:53:31.000 Such a joke.

00:53:32.000 The thing with those knees, though, me and you last night, I'm not doing that without my new knee.

00:53:37.000 Walking around town, I'm not doing that.

00:53:39.000 I'd go to Tropicana for a fight, and I'd be with my buddy, and we'd have to stop every...

00:53:44.000 How many feet?

00:53:45.000 I'm like, y'all, we gotta chill.

00:53:47.000 He's like, dude, it's time.

00:53:48.000 I couldn't walk.

00:53:49.000 So now, I'm back.

00:53:51.000 That's why I'm not getting the other one done until I have to.

00:53:55.000 My problem was anytime I would injure something, I would not give it enough time.

00:53:59.000 I would get stem cells.

00:54:00.000 I think that's everybody's.

00:54:01.000 I would not give it enough time.

00:54:03.000 And I'd be like, it's good enough.

00:54:05.000 And then it would get aggravated again.

00:54:08.000 It's like, goddammit, now it's chronic.

00:54:10.000 See, I don't like to do all those exercises and shit.

00:54:12.000 I think I'm scarred from all that.

00:54:14.000 The only way I like to stay in shape...

00:54:16.000 Training camp.

00:54:16.000 Get some training camp.

00:54:18.000 Longo had some old school shit.

00:54:20.000 I did so many.

00:54:21.000 Longo's the best.

00:54:22.000 I love Ray Longo.

00:54:22.000 You two would be the greatest reality show of all time.

00:54:26.000 Oh my god.

00:54:26.000 You ain't kidding.

00:54:27.000 I love Longo.

00:54:28.000 What am I, UFC producer?

00:54:30.000 Here's another one.

00:54:31.000 You two.

00:54:33.000 Imagine that.

00:54:35.000 Longo's one of a kind, Longo.

00:54:37.000 He's one of my favorite people.

00:54:39.000 Longo's just an old school guy.

00:54:40.000 Never had a contract with anybody.

00:54:42.000 Just always is there helping people for the right reasons.

00:54:44.000 Not just to get his face in there.

00:54:47.000 Nowadays, there's a bunch of fucking whores out there.

00:54:49.000 He's just a real man.

00:54:51.000 He's a real man.

00:54:52.000 I fucking love that guy.

00:54:54.000 But I love the two of you together.

00:54:55.000 When you guys were in the corner, it's fucking amazing.

00:54:58.000 There's no corner in MMA like that one.

00:55:00.000 It's so fun.

00:55:01.000 But it's also rock-solid information.

00:55:05.000 We keep it very simple.

00:55:09.000 And it's just crazy nowadays.

00:55:11.000 It's a little weird now with the whole team, man.

00:55:16.000 Times change and stuff, but everybody's out in Vegas now.

00:55:19.000 The whole team's like...

00:55:20.000 I mean, everybody's doing well, so we're all happy for everybody, but like...

00:55:24.000 Vegas is very tempting for young fighters and it's and I don't blame them like well the facility really I think is gonna pull people out the PI all your food is taken care of and you have the most sophisticated training environment Available on earth and if there's something better they're gonna get it whatever the fuck it is and they say I mean it's a beautiful thing I think it's fantastic the only thing I think it sucks for is that you have these guys who are coming up and Yeah,

00:56:00.000 I think...

00:56:13.000 And it's not his fault either.

00:56:15.000 He just is there, and it just makes sense.

00:56:18.000 But I think in a perfect world, they collaborate.

00:56:21.000 And then they're both there.

00:56:22.000 I think in a perfect world, that's how you do it, right?

00:56:26.000 I mean, that's what Greg Jackson and Farah Sahabi and all those guys did when they were trading fighters back and forth, and they all trained together.

00:56:33.000 That's the way to do it.

00:56:34.000 But you never leave your original team if they're good.

00:56:37.000 If it works out and you have a relationship with them, you figure it out together.

00:56:41.000 Unless you're trapped in a too small of an environment and your coach is just not able to fit the needs of like, you know, there's some guys that are just super talented, but they start out in the middle of nowhere.

00:56:53.000 And, you know, they don't have a real good gym.

00:56:55.000 The guy doesn't really know the high level shit.

00:56:57.000 I think that's the best thing ever for the fighters.

00:57:00.000 It's sick.

00:57:00.000 Yeah, I'm in Vegas all the time, and I'm working with all kind of fighters, and I would never ask anybody to leave their team.

00:57:06.000 In fact, I'm like, listen, I'll give you any information you want, but you can't leave your team.

00:57:10.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:57:11.000 I'm not taking you.

00:57:12.000 I don't want you.

00:57:12.000 Good.

00:57:13.000 Beautiful.

00:57:13.000 Also, taxes.

00:57:15.000 They save money with taxes out there.

00:57:17.000 It's very designed.

00:57:18.000 But it also creates a conflict where the conflict's not necessary, right?

00:57:22.000 It's because he's for sure getting new information.

00:57:24.000 Guys are getting new information from Nixick.

00:57:26.000 Getting new information from training with everybody.

00:57:28.000 You're on a path, but you're on a path with the people that you started the path with.

00:57:33.000 Right, yeah.

00:57:34.000 Even if you're in this new place, maybe you're enhancing your education, you're getting better at fighting.

00:57:39.000 You're still...

00:57:40.000 Those are your people.

00:57:42.000 And you want what's best for them if you really care for them.

00:57:45.000 But at the same time...

00:57:48.000 What did you sign up for?

00:57:50.000 What did I sign up for?

00:57:50.000 Like, I'm not gonna be in a corner with somebody, and I could like them, but, you know, me and Longo, what we did is with me and Longo, some local kids, there's a time when it's like, alright, Al's from Wantor, Weidman's from Baldwin, they're all local kids.

00:58:06.000 Who's fighting?

00:58:07.000 This one's taking out the best of Brazil, this one's, we're going to Australia, Al's fucking up this guy in London.

00:58:12.000 This is what I'm a part of.

00:58:13.000 Me and Longo taking our guys to the flagpole.

00:58:16.000 And then who's with us?

00:58:17.000 Aljo, or Al is our third guy.

00:58:20.000 I didn't sign on for anything else.

00:58:22.000 In other words, I want to make these guys the best they can, but once it gets to a certain degree now where it's like, alright man, this guy's going to be in the corner, and this...

00:58:30.000 Alright, well now that you guys are calling the shots...

00:58:33.000 You don't need me no more, because I'm not going to be fucking in there.

00:58:36.000 Okay, is it my turn to take the towel in?

00:58:39.000 Fuck everybody!

00:58:40.000 I'm out!

00:58:42.000 Who wants to go in this town?

00:58:43.000 Nick Sick, John Wood, who wants to?

00:58:45.000 And I love those guys.

00:58:46.000 They're good guys.

00:58:46.000 I like them.

00:58:47.000 They're good.

00:58:48.000 I'm friendly with them.

00:58:49.000 But I'm not a part of that.

00:58:52.000 I want the best for my fucking guys.

00:58:53.000 I love those guys.

00:58:55.000 Fucking Marab is going to be the next champ.

00:58:57.000 But Marab is unstoppable.

00:59:01.000 When he was carrying Henry Cejudo with his tongue out.

00:59:04.000 He's got his tongue out.

00:59:06.000 And he's like a savage moment.

00:59:09.000 What a savage moment.

00:59:11.000 Walking over to Mark Zuckerberg.

00:59:12.000 Holding Henry fucking Cejudo.

00:59:15.000 Two division world champion.

00:59:18.000 Embarrassing.

00:59:19.000 Look at that.

00:59:19.000 That's insane.

00:59:21.000 Marab, the thing is with Marab, I've never seen, in all my years, I've never seen a gas tank like that.

00:59:27.000 I never have.

00:59:28.000 It's incredible.

00:59:32.000 Because it's not like he's slow.

00:59:34.000 You generally associate really high-level endurance with guys that maybe don't have the kind of power he has.

00:59:40.000 But he's also durable.

00:59:42.000 If you watched his fight with Marlon Morales...

00:59:44.000 Not only did he get dropped, it was almost about to get stopped.

00:59:49.000 But then it was almost, by the end of the round, not only did he recover, he was beating the shit out of him.

00:59:54.000 Like, just beating, it almost ended in the other way.

00:59:56.000 He might have won back that round.

00:59:58.000 I never see, I'm like, holy fuck.

01:00:00.000 He's an animal.

01:00:01.000 Dude, his social media is getting funny, too.

01:00:04.000 He's great on social media.

01:00:05.000 He's the best.

01:00:06.000 He's the best.

01:00:06.000 He's an animal.

01:00:07.000 And I'm happy that him and Aljo never fought.

01:00:10.000 They never, you know what I mean?

01:00:11.000 That's a beautiful thing.

01:00:12.000 Did Aljo have to go up?

01:00:14.000 No.

01:00:14.000 Is he, like, really struggling?

01:00:16.000 Why did he decide to go up?

01:00:17.000 Well, I think it's time.

01:00:18.000 I mean, you'd have to ask him, but...

01:00:21.000 It was hard for him to get down to that weight.

01:00:25.000 I mean, he's done it.

01:00:26.000 He's a pro.

01:00:26.000 He's so good at that weight, though.

01:00:28.000 Yeah, but, man, he'll strangle guys the size of Rallo.

01:00:33.000 I've seen him.

01:00:34.000 Oh, I'm sure he can.

01:00:36.000 But I always felt that he had really good endurance for a guy who cuts that much weight.

01:00:43.000 And he could push a pace.

01:00:44.000 And his size and the grappling advantage.

01:00:47.000 When he strangled Corey Sanhagen, I was like, holy shit.

01:00:50.000 That was impressive.

01:00:52.000 Holy shit!

01:00:52.000 But I think he's gonna be better now.

01:00:53.000 So I've been working with him a little bit, just talking to him.

01:00:55.000 So he's healthier?

01:00:56.000 Yeah, he's healthier now.

01:00:57.000 He's not concerned about his weight.

01:00:59.000 And that was a big part for him at 35. Half of his camp was just making weight.

01:01:06.000 And as he puts it, do you think there should be more weight classes?

01:01:11.000 I think so.

01:01:12.000 I think so.

01:01:13.000 I think they should have been back in fucking 2001. I was a fucking tweeter, man.

01:01:19.000 155 was fucking hard for me, man.

01:01:21.000 But I was like Gollum on that fucking scale.

01:01:24.000 But 170, imagine me now at 170 with fucking MVPs and all these motherfuckers.

01:01:28.000 I'll be up to the dick.

01:01:30.000 That's true.

01:01:30.000 And I, first of all, people are shitting on that guy.

01:01:33.000 How does MVP make 170?

01:01:34.000 I had no idea.

01:01:35.000 Hey, what did you think of his, I liked his, everybody's shitting on him.

01:01:38.000 I liked his appearance.

01:01:39.000 Listen, that's what he, that's what I always was saying, telling people.

01:01:42.000 He handled Kevin Holland easily.

01:01:43.000 I was telling people those point fighters, the guys who are elite at that skill of blitzing in, that's a very specific skill and it's hard to handle.

01:01:51.000 And if you're just used to guys Muay Thai-ing you, and then some guy is doing that, it's wild, wild to deal with.

01:01:59.000 No, when I trained Tyron for Wonderboy, we brought in karate people.

01:02:03.000 We went to karate schools looking for the best karate guys.

01:02:07.000 Just to be able to deal with that aspect of the fight.

01:02:10.000 Yeah, well, I still think Wonderboy won, so what do you think about that?

01:02:12.000 I think Tyron handled Wonderboy better than anybody in Wonderboy's prime.

01:02:17.000 I think he handled him better than anybody because he just waited on him.

01:02:20.000 He did a lot of waiting on him, but he fucked him up.

01:02:23.000 Like, he rocked him twice.

01:02:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:25.000 Like, bad.

01:02:26.000 And, you know, Wonderboy was the guy thought to be the striker.

01:02:28.000 I never really watched.

01:02:29.000 I saw some highlights of Michael Page, Michael Venom Page from Bella Tar, but I never really watched.

01:02:35.000 I just don't know when they're on, to be honest.

01:02:38.000 He's sensational.

01:02:39.000 He is.

01:02:40.000 People were shitting on his appearance.

01:02:41.000 I thought it was great.

01:02:44.000 Listen, he fought Kevin Howard.

01:02:46.000 In his first fight in the UFC, he jumped into the deep end of the pool with a real dangerous guy who's got one-punch knockout power from his fucking back.

01:02:55.000 I know.

01:02:56.000 Remember that shit when he knocked down Jacare from his back?

01:02:58.000 Hey, it's the first guy in there, whoever fucking Kevin Holland, Kevin Holland.

01:03:04.000 You understand?

01:03:04.000 Like, Kevin Holland's usually talking shit, winning or losing.

01:03:08.000 You know, he's on the bottom of the ice.

01:03:09.000 Like, hey, you're stronger than I thought.

01:03:11.000 Yeah.

01:03:12.000 He had him, you know, a little fucking...

01:03:15.000 Perplexed.

01:03:15.000 Yeah, I like to hear a lot of times when they go back to the corner...

01:03:18.000 Dude, he was mentally beat after the first round, it really sounded like.

01:03:22.000 You can't hit that guy, and when you get close, he's so creative.

01:03:25.000 Those spinning elbows he kept hitting him with.

01:03:27.000 Oh, I know.

01:03:28.000 He's like, he's faster than we thought.

01:03:31.000 And they go, you gotta cut him off.

01:03:33.000 He goes, he's not there.

01:03:35.000 It's a different thing.

01:03:36.000 He's doing that point karate type movement.

01:03:39.000 And he trained it over and over again.

01:03:41.000 Come on, man.

01:03:41.000 It's that that ability to move in and out in his footwork is so sensational It's like that is a different thing to deal with It's like wrestlers if you're if you're used to grappling on your knees only and then all of a sudden you have to wrestle Big difference.

01:03:56.000 It's kind of like that these guys their their ability to close distance in that sideways stance Machida heads Wonderboy did it the best UFC. Yeah Wonderboy did some wild shit in the UFC It's such a different style.

01:04:11.000 And my little Jimmy Bird is always like, they keep their hands down.

01:04:14.000 I got your Jimmy.

01:04:14.000 It's a fucking thing.

01:04:15.000 Remember Wonder Boy, Jake Ellenberger?

01:04:17.000 Oh, that's the kick.

01:04:19.000 The wheel kick.

01:04:19.000 And this was like after Jake Ellenberger had said, he's not going to hit me with any of that fancy spinning shit.

01:04:24.000 Oh, no, he laughed.

01:04:25.000 He goes, I don't cry.

01:04:26.000 He goes, that's cute.

01:04:27.000 Something like that.

01:04:28.000 Yeah.

01:04:28.000 And he got embarrassed.

01:04:30.000 I think Wonderboy has the perfect con.

01:04:34.000 Here's the perfect con.

01:04:35.000 He's genuinely the nicest guy in the world.

01:04:38.000 He's handsome and wholesome, and he's just a sweet, sweet guy.

01:04:42.000 And so that's like a mask that a killer wears.

01:04:46.000 And then he's fucking piecing you up and you're like, oh no!

01:04:52.000 What about the Jeff Neal fight?

01:04:53.000 What he did with Jeff Neal was he pretended to be his friend.

01:04:58.000 In the little cage.

01:05:00.000 You get real confused.

01:05:02.000 Back up a little bit so you can see before it.

01:05:04.000 You get real confused with this dude.

01:05:06.000 And you get confused by the way he looks and how nice he talks.

01:05:10.000 He's a fucking karate assassin.

01:05:13.000 He's so good.

01:05:13.000 Probably the greatest karate fighter that's ever fought in MMA. He's so good.

01:05:18.000 I mean, there's Raymond Daniels.

01:05:20.000 He was another guy that was like an elite point fighting guy that's also a kickboxer that fought in Glory.

01:05:25.000 Yeah, Raymond Daniels is good.

01:05:27.000 He's the guy that has that 720 degree punch.

01:05:30.000 Yeah.

01:05:31.000 He spins in the air and KOs the guy with one punch.

01:05:34.000 It's the craziest thing you've ever seen.

01:05:35.000 If you saw it in a movie.

01:05:36.000 You think a kick is coming and then he just goes whack.

01:05:38.000 What is it if you saw it in a movie?

01:05:40.000 He's a California guy.

01:05:41.000 Or that's where his gym is, I believe.

01:05:44.000 Raymond Daniels sees another one.

01:05:45.000 Oh, he's so dangerous, dude.

01:05:47.000 Raymond Daniels, watch this.

01:05:49.000 Boom!

01:05:51.000 I mean, come on, son.

01:05:52.000 That is crazy.

01:05:53.000 That's a crazy thing to watch.

01:05:55.000 How do you prepare for that?

01:05:57.000 How do you prepare?

01:05:59.000 And in Bellator, he has one of the wildest knockouts.

01:06:01.000 Excuse me, not Bellator.

01:06:02.000 In Glory, in Glory Kickboxing, he has this touch side kick, jump spinning back kick to the face KO. You know, high level kickboxing match, man.

01:06:12.000 But the way he set it up, watch this.

01:06:15.000 This is a thing of beauty.

01:06:16.000 Watch this here.

01:06:17.000 Boom!

01:06:17.000 Oh, man.

01:06:18.000 What?

01:06:19.000 What?

01:06:20.000 What the fuck is that?

01:06:22.000 Damn.

01:06:22.000 Show that again.

01:06:23.000 Show that again.

01:06:24.000 Look at that, dude.

01:06:25.000 Are you fucking kidding me?

01:06:26.000 I don't even know.

01:06:27.000 I think he kicked him in his neck.

01:06:28.000 But he's still fighting.

01:06:29.000 He's fighting in karate combat.

01:06:30.000 That's why he has a shirt on.

01:06:31.000 Bro, Raymond Daniels.

01:06:33.000 Raymond Daniels, dude.

01:06:35.000 Raymond Daniels.

01:06:35.000 And Raymond Daniels and Michael Venom Page fought, I believe, back in the day in a point-fighting match.

01:06:42.000 So those guys that can cover distance like that, that's a different thing, man.

01:06:46.000 It's a different thing.

01:06:47.000 I like that he's part of the UFC because there's so many nice matchups.

01:06:51.000 At first, I was liking maybe him versus Wonderboy.

01:06:55.000 Then I was thinking about it more, and I'm like, wait a minute.

01:06:57.000 It might just be that.

01:07:02.000 But there's a lot of nice matchups.

01:07:04.000 He didn't look like he had those UFC jetties.

01:07:06.000 Not at all.

01:07:07.000 No, he looked like he was enjoying himself.

01:07:09.000 Yeah, I was impressed.

01:07:09.000 He's really dangerous, man.

01:07:11.000 He's so tall and such a sniper.

01:07:14.000 And just that movement.

01:07:16.000 Good luck finding anybody to emulate that shit in camp.

01:07:18.000 Good luck.

01:07:19.000 I mean, you gotta get Raymond Daniels.

01:07:21.000 Also, if your whole life is spent fighting at a certain pace and a certain distance, and all of a sudden this guy moves it by 30%.

01:07:29.000 Yeah.

01:07:30.000 30% is crazy.

01:07:31.000 He's way back here.

01:07:33.000 He's way back here, and he's standing in front of you, and he's moving around.

01:07:37.000 And you try to close the distance, and they're just so fast.

01:07:39.000 They beat you to it.

01:07:40.000 You remember when Lyoto Machida knocked out Ryan Bader?

01:07:43.000 Ryan Bader's trying to close the distance, and we were just planting a left hand on him.

01:07:48.000 It's like, whoa!

01:07:50.000 It was like that style is very hard to deal with if someone's really good at it and they can do the other shit too.

01:07:56.000 Yeah.

01:07:57.000 If they can defend a takedown, they'll get it.

01:08:00.000 I'm so interested in Jamal Hill and Pineda.

01:08:04.000 I'm so interested in that fight.

01:08:06.000 I know.

01:08:07.000 I am so interested in that fight.

01:08:09.000 Do you think his Achilles is straight?

01:08:12.000 Dude, I don't know.

01:08:13.000 I mean, I would assume it is, otherwise he wouldn't be jumping back in.

01:08:17.000 I know it was more than eight months.

01:08:19.000 Is that what they say it takes?

01:08:21.000 How many months ago did Jamal Hill injure his Achilles?

01:08:25.000 I was there at the game he was playing, too.

01:08:28.000 They was all playing a basketball game.

01:08:30.000 It's always something stupid.

01:08:31.000 He can hoop, though.

01:08:34.000 Jamal Hooker play.

01:08:35.000 Nice.

01:08:35.000 And he somehow...

01:08:36.000 You could also fucking...

01:08:37.000 Yeah.

01:08:38.000 God, you could also strike.

01:08:39.000 Okay, so this was in July.

01:08:42.000 So August, September, October, November, December, January, February, March.

01:08:47.000 Eight.

01:08:47.000 Ooh.

01:08:48.000 I'd like to have more...

01:08:49.000 It's right on the limit.

01:08:50.000 I'd like to have a little more.

01:08:52.000 I would assume he's had to be on the BPCs.

01:08:55.000 No, you can't.

01:08:57.000 Even as an injury?

01:08:58.000 No, you can't.

01:08:59.000 So they can't even get permission to use that?

01:09:01.000 No, you can do stem cells.

01:09:03.000 They can do PRP. They can do a lot of things.

01:09:05.000 It's so silly.

01:09:06.000 He assures Achilles injury fully healed ahead of UFC 300. It's not a problem at all.

01:09:11.000 Hey, man, I don't think he gets enough props, first of all.

01:09:15.000 I think he's a fucking beast.

01:09:16.000 Jamal Hill's fucking dangerous.

01:09:18.000 Watch the fight with Glover.

01:09:19.000 Yeah, watch the fight with Glover.

01:09:21.000 He pieced Glover up.

01:09:23.000 And Glover is fucking good.

01:09:24.000 To piece him up like that on the feed?

01:09:26.000 Taking away his singles real quick.

01:09:28.000 People underestimate him for some strange reason.

01:09:31.000 And I don't understand it.

01:09:33.000 I've heard people talk about his power.

01:09:35.000 Watch that Johnny Walker fight.

01:09:36.000 He hit him in the forehead.

01:09:38.000 It was hit by a sniper.

01:09:40.000 The OSP fight?

01:09:41.000 Yeah, man.

01:09:42.000 He's good, man.

01:09:42.000 He's good.

01:09:43.000 He's fucking dangerous.

01:09:44.000 Show me somebody that did something to him standing up.

01:09:47.000 Because I'm not finding it.

01:09:49.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:09:50.000 I think Alex is going to be so confident You know, shit happens.

01:09:55.000 But I think Alex is going to be so confident because of all his kickboxing and everything else that with these little gloves, I think Jamal's going to surprise him.

01:10:03.000 He's going to fucking sharpshoot him.

01:10:05.000 Jamal's a one-punch knockout striker at light heavyweight for sure, and he's a big, tall dude, and he knows movement.

01:10:12.000 He's fucking dangerous, man.

01:10:14.000 He's good at keeping his range.

01:10:15.000 Bro, he's fucking dangerous.

01:10:20.000 Jamal's dangerous.

01:10:21.000 I mean, a lot of people are picking Pajeda to run him over.

01:10:25.000 Really?

01:10:26.000 Which I think is interesting.

01:10:27.000 Yeah, I'm not sure about that.

01:10:29.000 I'm not sure about that, man.

01:10:31.000 Dude, I think this is going to be a great fight.

01:10:33.000 Oh, yeah.

01:10:33.000 The thing about Behata, though, is he's ultra high-level.

01:10:38.000 Like, people just think about only his power, and you only think about, like, because he's got the most insane touch of death.

01:10:45.000 It's insane.

01:10:46.000 He just sleeps people with everything.

01:10:48.000 But when you see his movement and that sneaky shit he does where he gets that calf kick off, you don't see...

01:10:54.000 Yeah, you don't even see it coming.

01:10:55.000 You don't see shit, man.

01:10:56.000 You don't see shit.

01:10:58.000 And when he checks his kicks, he doesn't check them.

01:11:01.000 He gets his foot like a hacky sack position.

01:11:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:11:05.000 He lifts his shin up so you're just sliding under it.

01:11:07.000 You ain't getting shit.

01:11:08.000 And he's coming down with a right hand every time.

01:11:12.000 He's good, man.

01:11:13.000 He's fucking good.

01:11:14.000 I think the speed of Jamal Hill is going to be the difference.

01:11:17.000 As long as he has it and that Achilles doesn't hinder him.

01:11:20.000 Yeah, well, goddamn it would suck if he came in at 70%.

01:11:24.000 Yeah.

01:11:24.000 Not 100%.

01:11:25.000 He's going to need to be 100%.

01:11:27.000 Because the thing is, there's got to be a lot of pressure to be UFC 300. And you might be, I can do it, I can do it.

01:11:33.000 I don't know.

01:11:34.000 I'm hoping it's 100%.

01:11:37.000 I just hope they for sure got him some stem cells.

01:11:39.000 And I would imagine, you know, he's an elite UFC world championship caliber athlete.

01:11:44.000 He's the world champ.

01:11:45.000 He just relinquished his title.

01:11:47.000 I mean, he's fighting for his title, essentially, right?

01:11:50.000 Because he didn't lose.

01:11:51.000 He gave it up.

01:11:52.000 He got injured.

01:11:54.000 I bet he only gave it up because Uri gave it up, too.

01:11:56.000 I mean, it's basic what he said when he gave it up.

01:12:00.000 That's honorable, right?

01:12:01.000 Said Uri got out of the way, I'm going to get out of the way, I'm not going to hold up.

01:12:05.000 And that's why I like them guys, because what other division would do that?

01:12:08.000 I don't think anybody else would do that.

01:12:10.000 Well, those guys are warriors.

01:12:12.000 That is a warrior division.

01:12:13.000 Even Uri, who thought the fight was prematurely stopped, he wouldn't say it inside the octagon.

01:12:18.000 Right, he was just like, yeah, I like that.

01:12:21.000 I hate when guys are bitching right afterwards, or they start talking about the injuries they had and everything.

01:12:27.000 That one was a close one, though.

01:12:29.000 When you watch that one, you're like, ooh, you could have one or two more seconds.

01:12:33.000 I thought he was a...

01:12:34.000 I mean...

01:12:35.000 Close, but I thought it was a fair stoppage, too.

01:12:37.000 Yes, I thought fair stoppage, too.

01:12:38.000 Same Dr. Aaron Rodgers had.

01:12:40.000 Oh, okay.

01:12:41.000 Went to the right guy.

01:12:42.000 I bet Jamal got all the good stuff.

01:12:45.000 Yeah.

01:12:46.000 Well, that's good, then.

01:12:48.000 Hopefully.

01:12:49.000 He's going to need it.

01:12:50.000 Yeah, Aaron Rodgers, he was practicing quite a bit.

01:12:53.000 It was like five months in already, out there throwing and shit.

01:12:57.000 He said his strength of the leg wasn't the same, his ability to push off it wasn't the same, but he said it was getting a lot better.

01:13:03.000 I just don't want Jamal to be compromised in any way in that fight.

01:13:07.000 It's such a big fight.

01:13:08.000 Yeah, but like I said, man, his speed and his instincts and his vision, it's just different.

01:13:13.000 And he's got that boxing punching set where he throws straight, where, you know, Pajeda's a little loopier.

01:13:22.000 Well, Pajeda does fight with his hands way low, too, and he kind of like lures guys into these slugfests because he's got such insane counterpower.

01:13:30.000 His one loss, Jamal Hill, is from that fucking armlock triangle from Paul Craig.

01:13:35.000 That could happen to anybody.

01:13:36.000 Paul Craig has one of the most dangerous guards in any fucking division.

01:13:40.000 I love it.

01:13:40.000 Period.

01:13:40.000 I love it.

01:13:40.000 Period.

01:13:41.000 Full stop.

01:13:41.000 I know.

01:13:42.000 Remember he caught Ankalaya?

01:13:43.000 One second to go in the fight.

01:13:46.000 One second to go.

01:13:47.000 He catches him in a triangle.

01:13:49.000 How does he got wins over Jamal Hill and Ankoliyev?

01:13:51.000 That's how good his guard is.

01:13:53.000 His guard is sensational.

01:13:55.000 His guard is what everybody's guard should strive to be.

01:13:57.000 Exactly.

01:13:58.000 That's what I love and it'll never go out of style no matter what happens with jiu-jitsu.

01:14:04.000 At my school I have everybody doing the latest fucking leg locks to this and that.

01:14:07.000 This is a horrible one because he broke his arm too.

01:14:11.000 His arm is completely flopping around.

01:14:14.000 It's already broken by this point.

01:14:15.000 He's still trying to fight, though.

01:14:17.000 That's the fucking...

01:14:17.000 Oh, Jamal's an animal.

01:14:18.000 Look at this.

01:14:19.000 He's still not...

01:14:19.000 He's such a warrior, dude.

01:14:21.000 They stopped the fight.

01:14:22.000 He wasn't quitting.

01:14:23.000 He's a beast.

01:14:24.000 His arm is fucked.

01:14:24.000 He just looks at it.

01:14:25.000 Yeah.

01:14:26.000 He's fucked, dude.

01:14:27.000 You remember what it looked like when it was going backwards?

01:14:29.000 It was horrific, man.

01:14:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:31.000 It was horrific.

01:14:31.000 I think he's winning the fight, to be honest with you.

01:14:33.000 I do.

01:14:34.000 And I like Alex.

01:14:35.000 Really?

01:14:36.000 I swear, I think he's winning.

01:14:37.000 Listen, I think it's a very interesting fight.

01:14:39.000 Dude, the odds are real close on it.

01:14:41.000 It should be.

01:14:42.000 I think it's a pick-em fight.

01:14:43.000 Me too.

01:14:43.000 I can see a bunch of scenarios going both ways.

01:14:47.000 I think people underestimate Jamal.

01:14:49.000 The thing is, though, Jamal does...

01:14:52.000 Stand with like almost like a boxing stance sometimes.

01:14:56.000 I wonder how good he's gonna be of getting away from the calf kick.

01:14:59.000 That is such a primary weapon in Pajeras because he's so fucking sneaky with it.

01:15:04.000 And even though everybody knows that he's sneaky with it, it's still hard.

01:15:07.000 You can't defend it.

01:15:09.000 The one thing about Jamal, he's smart though.

01:15:11.000 Jamal is a very intelligent fighter.

01:15:13.000 For a young guy, he's very cerebral and I think he understands that that might be a problem.

01:15:19.000 So he should have an answer for it early.

01:15:23.000 Yeah, you gotta have an answer for that.

01:15:25.000 He's got all these combinations that he sets up that are based on your reaction to certain movements.

01:15:31.000 And he repeats these patterns in fights and it's always surprising.

01:15:35.000 The way he's able to land those things is so surprising.

01:15:40.000 And he's just got this very specific strategy.

01:15:42.000 I'm gonna kill that leg.

01:15:43.000 And then you're fucked and I hit really hard and you're not gonna be able to get out of the way.

01:15:48.000 Did you ever get hit with one of those calf kicks?

01:15:50.000 No.

01:15:51.000 Me neither.

01:15:51.000 I'm happy I didn't know.

01:15:52.000 I'm happy that shit was out.

01:15:53.000 I thought people play it.

01:15:54.000 Just play kick me?

01:15:55.000 And it hurts like hell.

01:15:57.000 I did before they were a thing, and I think it was my fight against Josh Near.

01:16:01.000 He seemed like the dude who would use a calf kick.

01:16:04.000 But they weren't a thing.

01:16:06.000 I think it was an accident, and he kicked me in a calf, and I swear I thought my leg was broke.

01:16:10.000 Wow.

01:16:11.000 I was like, I couldn't walk.

01:16:12.000 I thought my leg was broke.

01:16:13.000 Now, imagine Pajeda.

01:16:14.000 Yeah, I know.

01:16:15.000 I don't know how to deal with that.

01:16:18.000 He fucked up Jan Bajovic's shit.

01:16:20.000 Jan Bajovic is literally made out of rocks.

01:16:24.000 That dude is made out of rocks!

01:16:26.000 I guarantee you, if they do some bone density, he's got some fucking Viking rock bones.

01:16:32.000 He's a beast.

01:16:33.000 That dude hits so goddamn hard.

01:16:36.000 Hey, but what about the BMF? I'm interested in that too.

01:16:39.000 You're not really interested in that one?

01:16:41.000 I am interested in that.

01:16:42.000 You know why I'm interested in that?

01:16:42.000 Because people are counting Max out.

01:16:44.000 I'm not.

01:16:46.000 I think Max might win.

01:16:47.000 Max is one of my favorites.

01:16:48.000 Max has had a lot of time to prepare.

01:16:51.000 Justin's a 230 favorite.

01:16:54.000 I would not take that.

01:16:55.000 Can I just say that they were basing a lot of that shit on his fight versus Dustin Poirier.

01:16:59.000 And if you hear Max talk about it, he had only six weeks to prepare for that thing.

01:17:05.000 And he was doing this for like 10 or so weeks.

01:17:07.000 And I don't know, man.

01:17:09.000 Max is an intelligent guy.

01:17:10.000 I was there, we were there live, when he fought Calvin Cater.

01:17:14.000 And he's looking away, I'm the best boxer!

01:17:17.000 And he moves his head and he fucking hits him.

01:17:18.000 And you remember where Dana was doing?

01:17:20.000 Dana was like, somebody need to stop this.

01:17:21.000 Dana was like scared for Calvin Cater's life.

01:17:24.000 He probably could have stopped.

01:17:25.000 He put a real beating on Calvin that takes a long time to recover from.

01:17:30.000 I mean, the amount of punches that he landed on Calvin were insane.

01:17:34.000 My thing with the Dustin and Max fight was I thought Dustin just physically bullied him around the ring.

01:17:41.000 It looked like there was a strength advantage there, and I think that's going to be a problem.

01:17:45.000 If my perception's right, then that would be a problem because I think Justin's stronger and more of a bully, and his leg kicks, which Max never seems to check.

01:17:56.000 I think his leg kicks could present a problem.

01:17:58.000 That could be a real problem.

01:17:59.000 Because he had a problem with that with Volkanovski.

01:18:01.000 And the thing about Gaethje is Gaethje lands them in the clinch.

01:18:05.000 He can be standing like...

01:18:06.000 It's insane.

01:18:08.000 I know.

01:18:09.000 His distance for that...

01:18:10.000 His flexibility is insane.

01:18:11.000 It's insane.

01:18:12.000 This was such a beating.

01:18:14.000 This was a beating, man.

01:18:15.000 This was wild, man.

01:18:16.000 This is wild live because it was during the...

01:18:19.000 And Calvin Cater, I mean, he's a fucking dangerous dude.

01:18:22.000 He's got real good boxing.

01:18:24.000 And he just couldn't touch Max.

01:18:27.000 I see a single for Aljo.

01:18:29.000 I told you, old Binky Jones-type cater back in the day.

01:18:36.000 That was his first loss.

01:18:38.000 Binky Jones?

01:18:39.000 Yeah, one of my guys.

01:18:41.000 James Binky Jones.

01:18:42.000 One of the reasons why I'm interested in this is because I think Max is going to go into this fight with a tremendous amount of Anticipation.

01:18:50.000 This is not a fight that you don't get real scared about.

01:18:53.000 This is a fight you gotta really fucking prepare.

01:18:56.000 And when Max gets pushed, you see the best Max.

01:18:59.000 What is he, 33?

01:19:01.000 He's one of my favorites.

01:19:02.000 Yeah, he's young.

01:19:02.000 Yeah, Max is not out of his prime.

01:19:04.000 When he started, he was, what, 19?

01:19:05.000 We really kind of put aside when a guy loses the title that maybe they're not as good as they used to be.

01:19:11.000 But Max keeps getting better.

01:19:12.000 Not to mention his nuts.

01:19:14.000 I mean, let's think about when he was going to fight Habib on 24 hours notice or whatever it was.

01:19:19.000 He's one of my favorite guys, without a doubt.

01:19:21.000 One of my favorite fighters.

01:19:23.000 He's a beast, and he's a sweetheart of a guy.

01:19:26.000 Yeah, right?

01:19:27.000 The nicest guys.

01:19:27.000 Yeah, no doubt.

01:19:28.000 The nicest guys.

01:19:29.000 And he talked openly about why guys like Conor, why those guys gas out.

01:19:33.000 Guys like Aldo.

01:19:34.000 He was like, they got too much power, man!

01:19:36.000 And he's like, they don't have that kind of power!

01:19:40.000 Did you see Roadhouse?

01:19:41.000 I did not see Roadhouse.

01:19:42.000 Is it good?

01:19:43.000 I've seen Roadhouse.

01:19:44.000 On a 1 to 10, how high were you?

01:19:48.000 Oh, you know.

01:19:49.000 Compared to what?

01:19:51.000 Like normally?

01:19:53.000 No, no.

01:19:53.000 It's fun.

01:19:54.000 It's like an 80s type movie.

01:19:55.000 It's a little silly in a way.

01:19:58.000 It's not too serious in a sense.

01:20:00.000 But it's fun.

01:20:03.000 I like Jake.

01:20:03.000 He's likable.

01:20:04.000 Yeah, Jake carried the movie.

01:20:06.000 And let me tell you, Connor, what an actor.

01:20:09.000 He did himself.

01:20:12.000 People are like, yo, what an actor.

01:20:15.000 He's going to take the Hollywood by storm.

01:20:18.000 He's playing himself, basically.

01:20:20.000 Couldn't he play himself in a bunch of movies?

01:20:22.000 I bet Guy Ritchie's on speed dial with him right now.

01:20:25.000 I mean, but all he had was a lot of one-liners, so it's easy to deliver one-liners, right?

01:20:30.000 Conor McGregor could be a movie star.

01:20:32.000 Easy.

01:20:33.000 100%.

01:20:33.000 If The Rock can do it, you don't think Conor McGregor could do it?

01:20:36.000 For sure.

01:20:36.000 He got the discipline to do it.

01:20:37.000 100% he could do it.

01:20:39.000 And he's a character, man.

01:20:40.000 Look at him.

01:20:42.000 He's a fucking character, dude.

01:20:44.000 I like the part in the movie when he takes the trolley and he throws it into the...

01:20:47.000 Oh, no, that's a different...

01:20:48.000 That happened in real life.

01:20:50.000 He's a fucking...

01:20:51.000 He's a fucking...

01:20:53.000 Listen, I liked him in the movie, though.

01:20:56.000 He wasn't...

01:20:57.000 He didn't take you out of the movie.

01:20:59.000 Yeah, I thought the movie was cool.

01:20:59.000 You know?

01:21:00.000 Well, I will definitely watch it.

01:21:02.000 It's like a fun...

01:21:03.000 It's not the original one to ten.

01:21:07.000 I'll get to about nine.

01:21:07.000 Yeah, get to about nine...

01:21:10.000 It's a bit corny, but...

01:21:12.000 I like a corny movie.

01:21:13.000 Yeah, if you like corny movies and just want to be entertained, it's the perfect movie.

01:21:18.000 I love the first Rhode Island.

01:21:19.000 There was no Sam Elliott in this one.

01:21:21.000 Why didn't they have a Sam Elliott character?

01:21:23.000 That's true.

01:21:25.000 Why wouldn't they have a Sam Elliott?

01:21:26.000 They should get that guy from Yellowstone.

01:21:28.000 That old dude with the mustache from Yellowstone, right?

01:21:30.000 What's that guy's name?

01:21:32.000 He's a real cowboy.

01:21:33.000 Yeah, that's a real cowboy.

01:21:34.000 No, not Rip, but Rip is too tough.

01:21:37.000 The other dude, the older guy.

01:21:39.000 He looks like Sam Elliott.

01:21:40.000 Yeah, he would be perfect.

01:21:42.000 I have a Sam Elliott.

01:21:43.000 I'm on the last season of Yellowstone.

01:21:45.000 Tell me, man.

01:21:46.000 Why didn't they just get fucking actual Sam Elliott?

01:21:48.000 I like Yellowstone.

01:21:49.000 Yeah, right?

01:21:50.000 Yeah, have Sam Elliott come.

01:21:52.000 Patrick Swayze's dead, but have actual Sam Elliott come back?

01:21:56.000 Come on, mijo.

01:21:57.000 Who's a handsome fellow back then with that salt and pepper hair?

01:22:00.000 He's a real Marlboro man.

01:22:02.000 For sure, son.

01:22:03.000 What a voice that guy's got.

01:22:05.000 This is such a dumb movie.

01:22:07.000 It is.

01:22:07.000 Dumb as shit.

01:22:09.000 It's so dumb.

01:22:10.000 It's cult classic.

01:22:11.000 It's so dumb, but it's great.

01:22:14.000 It's like the Warriors.

01:22:15.000 Remember the old movie, the Warriors?

01:22:17.000 Warriors can come out and play.

01:22:19.000 Yeah, my favorite was the baseball crew.

01:22:22.000 Baseball furies.

01:22:23.000 Listen, we talked about Star Wars a little bit.

01:22:26.000 Fuck Star Wars ever since...

01:22:28.000 What's that chick?

01:22:29.000 Kathleen Kennedy.

01:22:30.000 Yeah, I love the South Park thing.

01:22:31.000 Put a chicken in and make a gay and leave.

01:22:33.000 That's exactly what the fuck they're doing.

01:22:35.000 Cartman hit the nail on the head.

01:22:37.000 But fuck all that shit.

01:22:38.000 The new Star Wars.

01:22:40.000 Fuck all that.

01:22:41.000 And it's pre-Star Wars.

01:22:42.000 Did you see Dune and Dune Part 2?

01:22:44.000 No.

01:22:46.000 Man, you got it.

01:22:47.000 Joe...

01:22:49.000 Did you see it?

01:22:50.000 I saw part one.

01:22:51.000 I fell asleep.

01:22:51.000 You fucking idiot.

01:22:52.000 I couldn't help it.

01:22:53.000 I'm sorry.

01:22:54.000 Wow.

01:22:56.000 That was kind of mean.

01:22:58.000 Sometimes people get tired.

01:22:58.000 I get tired, man.

01:23:00.000 I work all day.

01:23:01.000 Listen to me.

01:23:01.000 Joe, these movies are so fucking good.

01:23:05.000 Really?

01:23:06.000 Okay, I'm excited.

01:23:07.000 I see them.

01:23:07.000 I'm telling you right now, Josh Brolin's, first of all, I don't think Josh, from Goonies to that, he's never in anything bad, Josh Brolin.

01:23:14.000 He's fucking awesome.

01:23:15.000 Yeah, he's in that.

01:23:16.000 Momoa was in it.

01:23:17.000 I like the, you know, he could do a couple push-ups, but I like the Timothy Chamele.

01:23:21.000 Chamele?

01:23:22.000 Yeah.

01:23:23.000 No, he is.

01:23:23.000 He's in Wonka.

01:23:24.000 He's good.

01:23:25.000 But these movies are so good.

01:23:29.000 The director, he's a French guy.

01:23:31.000 He also did Blade Runner, the new Blade Runner, which is another very underrated movie.

01:23:36.000 These aren't underrated.

01:23:37.000 These are popular, but Blade Runner is underrated, the new one.

01:23:40.000 He's fucking awesome, man.

01:23:41.000 This guy, what's his name?

01:23:43.000 Yeah.

01:23:44.000 He's fucking phenomenal.

01:23:45.000 Sicario.

01:23:46.000 But Dune 1 and Dune Part 2. Oh, he did Arrival, too.

01:23:50.000 Dune, I'll tell you.

01:23:51.000 Did you see Arrival?

01:23:53.000 Yeah, but I think I forgot about it.

01:23:55.000 Arrival's the one where the alien ships show up.

01:23:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:23:57.000 That was good.

01:23:59.000 They speak with weird...

01:24:01.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.

01:24:02.000 Yeah, they show images.

01:24:03.000 It's fucking dope, dude.

01:24:05.000 But Dune, the characters, the fucking...

01:24:09.000 It's so good.

01:24:10.000 Yeah, I haven't seen the second one yet.

01:24:11.000 And it's so funny.

01:24:12.000 In the first one, I don't want to give it away, but the guy he fights at the end of it is a guy I had a jujitsu match versus this Babs.

01:24:19.000 I swear to God!

01:24:21.000 I did a drop Sayanagi on him.

01:24:24.000 Well, that was your move back in the day.

01:24:26.000 Yeah, man!

01:24:26.000 If you put in Matt versus Babs, you see me throw the fucking guy.

01:24:29.000 He's actually great in the movie.

01:24:33.000 He's great in it.

01:24:33.000 He plays Jamis, part of the Freeman.

01:24:35.000 The Freeman.

01:24:36.000 The Freeman's on Arrakis, and they're on these desert planets, and these big giant worms.

01:24:41.000 Such a nerd.

01:24:42.000 Another nerd guy.

01:24:44.000 Joe, you look like, when I say all this shit, you're looking at me like you want to unfriend me.

01:24:47.000 No!

01:24:48.000 You're looking at me like this is a mistake.

01:24:51.000 I'm fascinated.

01:24:53.000 There he is!

01:24:54.000 This dude?

01:24:55.000 Yeah, he's good!

01:24:56.000 I went versus him in a jiu-jitsu match, and Minotaur was the ref.

01:24:59.000 Wow.

01:25:00.000 Was that at NAGA? Yeah, it's NAGA in 1996. If you put in Matt versus Babs, you don't have to.

01:25:09.000 I don't give a fuck.

01:25:09.000 It's not about me, but that guy.

01:25:12.000 Don't get the HD version.

01:25:13.000 Get the HD version.

01:25:15.000 Watch his throat.

01:25:15.000 And don't share that video.

01:25:16.000 But I was so happy when I seen him.

01:25:18.000 Well, first of all, look at those abs.

01:25:20.000 But yeah, I mean, you can fold it a little bit.

01:25:22.000 Yeah, you can fold it a little bit.

01:25:23.000 After I mount him and he gets up, this is back in the day, yo.

01:25:26.000 This is like a Minotauros the ref.

01:25:29.000 But yeah, you can fold it a tiny bit.

01:25:31.000 After I mount him and I get off mount.

01:25:34.000 But yeah, look at that.

01:25:35.000 This is old school.

01:25:37.000 But once I get off mount and he...

01:25:39.000 Right now you can pull it.

01:25:40.000 Right after I miss the armbar.

01:25:43.000 But now this is for Paul Atreides.

01:25:46.000 Sorry, if you know it, if you see the movie.

01:25:47.000 Ready?

01:25:48.000 Damn, you almost had that armbar.

01:25:50.000 I did almost have that, but Henzo got happy for this because he worked on me with this fucking throw.

01:25:55.000 That's two points.

01:25:56.000 Hey, what belt was this?

01:25:57.000 This was when I was a brown belt and he was a purple.

01:26:00.000 Watch one more second because I do a nice back take.

01:26:03.000 No, I want Joe to see it, because Joe likes Jiu Jitsu.

01:26:06.000 Look, this was our team versus the Alliance team back in the day.

01:26:13.000 I said the same thing on Gomi, but it looks cool.

01:26:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:16.000 Because what happens is, you go first, and it's almost like a second later for him to go, so it looks cool.

01:26:21.000 I love that one.

01:26:22.000 I love that back shake.

01:26:24.000 Enough of me, I feel like a brat.

01:26:26.000 That's a fun back tip.

01:26:29.000 It's dramatic.

01:26:30.000 It's dramatic.

01:26:31.000 It's also kind of humbling.

01:26:33.000 Your feet are up in the air.

01:26:36.000 Everybody's watching!

01:26:37.000 But back to the movies, you're gonna love these movies, man.

01:26:40.000 They're good.

01:26:42.000 They got good characters.

01:26:43.000 They're deep.

01:26:44.000 And the action is fucking good.

01:26:48.000 I mean, yeah.

01:26:48.000 I believe you.

01:26:49.000 It's good.

01:26:50.000 Give it a chance.

01:26:52.000 But I don't believe Timothee Chalamet has beaten this guy in anything other than checkers.

01:26:58.000 I need you to stop right there.

01:27:00.000 He needs to have some kind of superpower.

01:27:04.000 I'm not buying none of what I was just seeing.

01:27:07.000 You know how in Star Wars, like The Force and all that stuff, Dune by Frank Herbert.

01:27:12.000 Stop looking at me, John Rollins.

01:27:14.000 John Rollins like, I want to throw you in a locker.

01:27:17.000 Shut up, Rollins.

01:27:18.000 It's just not happening.

01:27:19.000 It's fucking not happening.

01:27:20.000 So listen, these books came out in the 70s, and George Lucas took a lot from this.

01:27:27.000 They used something called The Voice, that they control people instead of The Force and shit like that.

01:27:33.000 But very cool.

01:27:35.000 Josh Brolin for the win.

01:27:36.000 I gotta be honest, I like The Force a lot more than The Voice.

01:27:39.000 Yeah.

01:27:40.000 Well, you're thinking of The Voice with that synergy with you.

01:27:43.000 You don't seem like a movie guy.

01:27:45.000 I like a few movies.

01:27:46.000 But you seem like the type of guy that likes to be outside and hunting and catching shit with your hands.

01:27:51.000 Like a good old white boy just out there.

01:27:54.000 I like doing things.

01:27:55.000 If you spend too much time watching movies, it's like time you can't be actually doing actual things.

01:28:00.000 I think of it as a reward.

01:28:02.000 If I'm going to watch a movie, it's like, I busted my ass all week.

01:28:05.000 I can watch a movie.

01:28:08.000 To kill boredom, my family went to Texas recently, Dallas, to go visit my sister-in-law, and I was by myself.

01:28:14.000 You know the deal, Joe.

01:28:15.000 When you have three kids and a wife, and you've got a routine, It's different when there's nobody home and shit.

01:28:21.000 So I'm like, I'm just sitting there.

01:28:23.000 There's only so much VR you can play.

01:28:24.000 You know what I mean?

01:28:25.000 So I go to the movies by yourself.

01:28:27.000 When you go to the movies by yourself in Long Island, it feels different than the city.

01:28:30.000 Yeah, you feel like a pervert.

01:28:32.000 It's like some fucking creeper rubbing his dick in the middle of a Goonies movie.

01:28:36.000 So I'm in there by myself watching Frozen.

01:28:40.000 Let it go.

01:28:42.000 Let it go.

01:28:44.000 Disney movies suck, man.

01:28:46.000 So I watched the fucking movie twice.

01:28:49.000 Wow.

01:28:50.000 Dune twice by yourself?

01:28:51.000 Three hour movies.

01:28:52.000 Don't say I don't have a life.

01:28:53.000 I have a nice life.

01:28:54.000 That's incredible.

01:28:55.000 Listen, you know what I could do?

01:28:57.000 I could be out getting in trouble.

01:29:00.000 My VR! My nerdiness!

01:29:02.000 No bar fights.

01:29:03.000 Yeah, just VR. You're much better off doing what you're doing.

01:29:06.000 I could have went another route.

01:29:08.000 My wife really...

01:29:09.000 And let me tell you, I didn't tell you this last time, Joe.

01:29:11.000 And he knows.

01:29:12.000 My wife, at 40 years old, had an MMA fight.

01:29:15.000 I saw it.

01:29:16.000 I saw it online.

01:29:17.000 It was fucking phenomenal, dude.

01:29:19.000 It was crazy.

01:29:20.000 I was like, what is Matt Sarah doing in his house?

01:29:23.000 I know, right?

01:29:24.000 It's funny that at a later age, as a mother...

01:29:28.000 A husband of a guy who was a world champion decides to just start fighting?

01:29:33.000 Fuck it, let's go!

01:29:34.000 You know, but she never threw a punch when I won the title.

01:29:38.000 She never threw a punch.

01:29:39.000 She was like Adrian.

01:29:40.000 I said, it's like the opposite of her personality, man.

01:29:44.000 It wasn't.

01:29:44.000 It's pretty crazy.

01:29:45.000 And then she'd do the kickboxing between each daughter to lose weight.

01:29:49.000 And then she took a kickboxing match under Lou Neglia, our buddy, who I used to fight on there, you know?

01:29:54.000 And she was...

01:29:55.000 Didn't she become three?

01:29:57.000 This is my wife's fight!

01:29:58.000 Look at this!

01:29:59.000 This is me and her before.

01:30:00.000 Is that you with the blue shirt?

01:30:02.000 You're a son of a bitch!

01:30:03.000 That was a...

01:30:05.000 That's the old man.

01:30:11.000 That's awesome.

01:30:13.000 You know what?

01:30:14.000 Before gluten-free, that wasn't it.

01:30:16.000 That's when Dana used to say, oh, it looks like you ate Matzara, you fuck.

01:30:19.000 But yeah, that was me.

01:30:21.000 But I was so proud of her, man.

01:30:23.000 That's amazing.

01:30:24.000 She got out of the cage.

01:30:25.000 Longo's the one who greeted her at the fucking thing.

01:30:27.000 Because, I mean, look, she's fighting a purple belt from Virginia here.

01:30:30.000 And again, she never did any kind of sports in high school.

01:30:34.000 I mean, if you see her standing up, she's like doing a fucking clinic, man.

01:30:38.000 She snaps down, she takes the back, and you know, she's a blue belt, she fought a purple belt, it was always that last, that chance of the girl...

01:30:46.000 You know, doing something.

01:30:47.000 And you never know how these things go.

01:30:48.000 So she's one and done.

01:30:50.000 I'm happy she's done with it.

01:30:51.000 She did it.

01:30:52.000 That's awesome.

01:30:52.000 It's nice for my daughters to see.

01:30:54.000 Yeah.

01:30:55.000 And now I'm saving myself from all the shit I said earlier about the fucking girls with the fucking...

01:31:00.000 No, I'm only kidding.

01:31:00.000 No, my wife...

01:31:02.000 No, I'm just really proud of her.

01:31:03.000 It was really nice.

01:31:04.000 It was cool.

01:31:04.000 That's amazing.

01:31:04.000 What a crazy aspiration at that age just to decide, fuck it.

01:31:08.000 Yeah.

01:31:09.000 It's fucking crazy.

01:31:10.000 But I saw clips of your daughter helping her train.

01:31:13.000 What a cool environment to be in.

01:31:16.000 The whole setup with the school and all.

01:31:18.000 His family's part of it now.

01:31:20.000 And it happened naturally.

01:31:22.000 Organically.

01:31:22.000 Yeah, he didn't drag them in and say, I'll do this.

01:31:25.000 His girls were dancing and shit.

01:31:27.000 My oldest just left dance to pursue it full time.

01:31:29.000 And now she's got a jujitsu max next month at the same place with my wife for it.

01:31:35.000 It's cool.

01:31:36.000 And she's on the Lou Negley having an event.

01:31:38.000 Nice.

01:31:38.000 It's cool.

01:31:39.000 And again, what I found with having a kid is you can't make them love it, but you can make them hate it.

01:31:44.000 I never tried to be like...

01:31:46.000 I used to always just play with them, play with them, but now they're living at the school.

01:31:51.000 It's so cool.

01:31:52.000 That's awesome.

01:31:53.000 Family business, you know?

01:31:56.000 Do you have any new kids lately?

01:31:57.000 No.

01:32:02.000 Ah, no kids for me.

01:32:04.000 I got one.

01:32:04.000 Yeah, he's doing good though.

01:32:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:32:06.000 College kid.

01:32:07.000 Shout out, Ethan.

01:32:08.000 So what are the other interesting fights on 300?

01:32:12.000 Pull that shit up.

01:32:13.000 BMF. You get the BMF fight.

01:32:15.000 You got Zhang Wei Li versus Yan Xiaonan.

01:32:19.000 That should be what?

01:32:20.000 Zhang Wei Li is a monster.

01:32:22.000 Every time I'm at the PI, she's always there.

01:32:26.000 She's never not training when I'm there.

01:32:27.000 This is the dark horse.

01:32:29.000 Oliveira and Saryukian.

01:32:30.000 Let's talk about that.

01:32:32.000 What do you think about that?

01:32:33.000 That Saryukian dude is a dangerous motherfucker, but so is Oliveira.

01:32:37.000 Oliveira is the wildest turnaround of any fighter of all time.

01:32:42.000 At one point in time, he would fall short a lot.

01:32:44.000 He taps the strikes to Paul Felder, and then comes back and just knocks everybody out.

01:32:49.000 And just annihilates everyone.

01:32:51.000 And has no fear.

01:32:53.000 A different human being was reborn inside of his body.

01:32:57.000 Because he was known, not known for it, but he was known to be able to break.

01:33:01.000 If that's in him, it stays in him.

01:33:04.000 It hasn't been in him for a while.

01:33:06.000 He's been smashing everybody.

01:33:08.000 He smashed Gaethje.

01:33:10.000 Did he fight Gaethje?

01:33:11.000 Yes.

01:33:12.000 He beat Gaethje.

01:33:14.000 Who else did he beat?

01:33:16.000 Chandler.

01:33:17.000 Chandler.

01:33:18.000 That Chandler one was crazy, too, because he got hurt real bad in the first round.

01:33:23.000 It's just also the power that he has is very unusual.

01:33:26.000 He loses to Makachev.

01:33:28.000 That's right, he beat Poirier.

01:33:30.000 I mean, come on, son.

01:33:32.000 Beat Chandler, Poirier, and Gaethje in a row.

01:33:36.000 I mean, that's wild.

01:33:37.000 I fell for Benio on that fight, man, because Benio was doing so...

01:33:40.000 Like, Benio wasn't afraid to face him down there.

01:33:42.000 A lot of guys are afraid to go down there with him to the floor.

01:33:45.000 Yeah.

01:33:46.000 And, you know, rightfully so, because I just watched recently his fight with Kevin Lee again.

01:33:51.000 Yeah.

01:33:52.000 And Kevin Lee thought he'd be okay down there, and fuck, man, you're fighting to get out of an arm, he's on your neck, out of the neck, he's on your leg.

01:34:00.000 That was the one when Kevin didn't realize he went out.

01:34:02.000 Oh, right.

01:34:03.000 And he tapped.

01:34:03.000 He didn't realize he tapped.

01:34:05.000 I'm feeling...

01:34:06.000 I think...

01:34:09.000 I think he will take him down and I wonder how that's going to go.

01:34:13.000 That's what I'm waiting to see.

01:34:14.000 Very interesting fight.

01:34:16.000 If Charles is able to get on top of him like Gamrot was able to control him on the ground.

01:34:22.000 But then look what he just did to Dariush.

01:34:25.000 Look what Armand just did to Benil.

01:34:28.000 Charles kind of whacked Benil too in the first round.

01:34:32.000 He did too.

01:34:35.000 Yeah, that's an interesting fight.

01:34:38.000 Isn't it crazy that you got Bo Nickel, who's only had how many MMA fights?

01:34:43.000 Four?

01:34:44.000 Five?

01:34:45.000 And he's on the main card.

01:34:47.000 I mean, here's my thing with him, man.

01:34:49.000 I think he's going to be great.

01:34:50.000 I think he's going to be a great fighter.

01:34:52.000 For sure.

01:34:52.000 I don't like how he talks about already accomplished fighters who've been through it.

01:34:58.000 What does he say?

01:34:59.000 Like, I mean, he's always talking about, oh, me and Kamzat will be an easy fight, and this, that, and the third.

01:35:04.000 I'm like, yo, dude, like, you got four fights, and you got help with those fights.

01:35:09.000 And we haven't seen you get stuck on your feet.

01:35:11.000 I mean, yeah, I mean, but the thing is, like, even his opponents, like, you know, Jamie Pickett, like, even Cody Brunches, Cody Brunches is known to fold in fights.

01:35:18.000 Like, he's fighting guys that are folding.

01:35:19.000 Right.

01:35:19.000 Yeah, well, maybe they see a future champion.

01:35:21.000 I get it, but what I'm saying is...

01:35:23.000 I think they're trying to bring him along.

01:35:24.000 I mean, you could bring him along, but if you're in that position, don't talk about guys that had to go through it.

01:35:29.000 I hear you.

01:35:30.000 But isn't it interesting that some fighters, they decide to bring along?

01:35:35.000 Yeah.

01:35:36.000 And others are victims that are success.

01:35:38.000 Look what's on the undercard.

01:35:42.000 Oh, Holly Holm.

01:35:43.000 Calvin, look at this.

01:35:44.000 This is the undercard.

01:35:45.000 Prohaska versus Ray Cage.

01:35:48.000 That's wild as it is.

01:35:49.000 Wild.

01:35:49.000 Wild fight.

01:35:51.000 Calvin Cater and Aljo.

01:35:53.000 Holly Holm and Kayla Harrison.

01:35:55.000 Let's talk about that.

01:35:56.000 What do you think of that?

01:35:56.000 I don't know.

01:35:57.000 Can she make the weight?

01:35:58.000 I like Holly.

01:35:59.000 What was she fighting at?

01:36:01.000 155. There's no way she doesn't make the way she's a complete professional, but how she performs is going to be tough.

01:36:09.000 I just think Diego Lopez, bro.

01:36:11.000 That dude is a killer.

01:36:14.000 He's a killer.

01:36:15.000 That's a future world champion caliber fighter.

01:36:17.000 No doubt about that.

01:36:18.000 He's a straight-up killer.

01:36:20.000 He's fought for me back in the day on Shogun.

01:36:23.000 Excellent.

01:36:24.000 That's a good fight.

01:36:24.000 Jalen Turner and Hanato Mocano.

01:36:27.000 Look at all these other fights that aren't on the main card.

01:36:31.000 Jim Miller!

01:36:32.000 Listen to Jim Miller!

01:36:33.000 Jim Miller on UFC 300, right?

01:36:36.000 Davison Figueredo with Cody Garbrandt, that opens up the fights.

01:36:40.000 That's crazy to think about, right?

01:36:41.000 That is the craziest card of all time.

01:36:44.000 That is the craziest card of all time in human history.

01:36:47.000 I was shocked when I saw that was the first prelim fight.

01:36:49.000 This fucking card is bananas, man.

01:36:52.000 Scroll up a little bit more, Jamie.

01:36:57.000 That is wild, dude.

01:37:00.000 That is a wild undercard.

01:37:02.000 You think Holly's going to be able to deal with that grappling and the physical strength?

01:37:12.000 Kayla is a monster.

01:37:14.000 I mean, we already saw her do it with Rhonda, not that she's big.

01:37:19.000 I think Ronda's a better grappler than Kayla on the ground, transitioning to submissions and things.

01:37:25.000 I just watched Kayla fight Aspen Ladd and look like dog shit, personally.

01:37:29.000 That's one of my guys on the PFL card, and she struggled.

01:37:34.000 She got swept against that girl and stuff, so I don't think Holly can grapple with her for sure.

01:37:40.000 But I don't think Holly's going to be so easy to take down because she requires the clinch to get her down.

01:37:46.000 And Holly's a big, strong chick.

01:37:48.000 I mean, I know she's 42 now, so maybe the age becomes a factor.

01:37:51.000 But if she can just keep range, she's going to win on her feet.

01:37:56.000 So I mean, I have to see Kayla take her down.

01:37:58.000 I just don't think it's going to be so easy.

01:38:00.000 And if Holly doesn't feel a threat on her feet, Holly might start lighting her up.

01:38:03.000 You know what I mean?

01:38:04.000 I've seen Kayla fight...

01:38:07.000 I don't know who the girl was, but I don't think she...

01:38:09.000 The Brazilian girl shot her down.

01:38:10.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:38:11.000 A Brazilian, that's who it was.

01:38:12.000 She didn't do shit with her.

01:38:13.000 On the floor, she didn't do shit with her.

01:38:15.000 Yeah.

01:38:15.000 And right here, she's fighting a soccer mom.

01:38:18.000 If you back up before that...

01:38:22.000 Oh, it's Aspen Ladd?

01:38:23.000 I'm sorry, Aspen Ladd.

01:38:24.000 I didn't know it was Aspen Ladd.

01:38:24.000 I'm sorry, I didn't know it was Aspen Ladd.

01:38:26.000 But if you look at the way she's throwing punches on her feet...

01:38:28.000 She took a German Shepherd's Army.

01:38:30.000 It's not good.

01:38:32.000 She's not a striker.

01:38:33.000 She wants this.

01:38:35.000 But in these grappling exchanges, she's going to be a fucking handful.

01:38:40.000 But we don't know how to wait.

01:38:43.000 It's going to affect her.

01:38:44.000 Well, if she did it right, it might actually help.

01:38:47.000 You know, probably help her gas tank tremendously.

01:38:49.000 Like, in this fight, she never put her in danger.

01:38:52.000 Never put her in danger.

01:38:53.000 It really just depends on how much muscle she loses, you know?

01:38:57.000 And how much strength training she continues to do.

01:39:00.000 Like, you don't get that big without a lot of strength training.

01:39:02.000 You know, Holly's got a lot of experience.

01:39:04.000 I mean, a lot of it is, of course, judo, right?

01:39:07.000 A lot of the throwing around.

01:39:09.000 Bigger arms than Rollo.

01:39:10.000 She's a tank.

01:39:12.000 But that comes at a requirement.

01:39:13.000 There's a lot of oxygen to get sucked up by those.

01:39:16.000 That's what's interesting when you watch guys that get older and they get more economical, like Yoel.

01:39:21.000 Got way more economical about how and when to move, but put guys to sleep because they forgot that he could just explode on you at any moment.

01:39:30.000 Like the Wyman, the flying knee.

01:39:32.000 He would just jump on dudes and you didn't expect it coming.

01:39:37.000 He would chill and just sit back, sit back, sit back.

01:39:40.000 And be so relaxed!

01:39:43.000 I love you!

01:39:44.000 I love you!

01:39:45.000 That's funny.

01:39:46.000 Not to bring that up, but they really fucked Tim Kennedy back in the day for that.

01:39:50.000 Tim Kennedy won that.

01:39:51.000 That was fucked up.

01:39:52.000 That was crazy.

01:39:54.000 That was fucked up.

01:39:54.000 That was crazy.

01:39:56.000 There was like an extra...

01:39:58.000 How many seconds?

01:39:59.000 My man was on that.

01:39:59.000 39 seconds?

01:40:01.000 He stayed on that stool for like a whole round.

01:40:04.000 Tim had him.

01:40:05.000 Tim had him.

01:40:06.000 That's a...

01:40:07.000 And then there's the mental break that comes from thinking that you won, because the guy's not getting off the stool, and then you gotta fight again.

01:40:12.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:40:13.000 And then Yoel caught him.

01:40:14.000 And the thing about Yoel is he can catch anybody.

01:40:17.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:40:17.000 He can catch anybody.

01:40:18.000 Remember when he caught Machida?

01:40:20.000 Whoosh!

01:40:21.000 The Machida knockout was terrifying.

01:40:22.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:40:23.000 Like a superhero.

01:40:24.000 Bro, it's like everybody else is a child.

01:40:27.000 Yeah, when he gets going.

01:40:29.000 Yeah, everybody else is like a child.

01:40:32.000 Is this the end of the fight?

01:40:33.000 I wanted to see when Tim was winning.

01:40:35.000 Come on, man.

01:40:36.000 This is some bullshit.

01:40:37.000 So this is it right here.

01:40:38.000 So Tim can actually...

01:40:39.000 He's got him hurt there.

01:40:40.000 Boom.

01:40:41.000 He's got him hurt.

01:40:42.000 Bad.

01:40:43.000 And then the bell rings.

01:40:45.000 So he goes back.

01:40:46.000 I mean, Yoel's on the verge of going out.

01:40:48.000 Like, look, he goes back, but they gave him all this extra time.

01:40:52.000 The round was supposed to start.

01:40:54.000 He's still sitting on the stool.

01:40:55.000 What is Big John doing?

01:40:57.000 They covered him with water or ice, and they have too much Vaseline on his face.

01:41:01.000 There's a bunch of different things, and he just laid there.

01:41:04.000 But then he eventually caught Tim.

01:41:06.000 That's rough, man.

01:41:08.000 Man, that's some bullshit.

01:41:11.000 Well, it sucks.

01:41:13.000 That's for sure.

01:41:14.000 It sucks for Tim.

01:41:16.000 Because in all fairness, I think when the bell starts, if you're not willing or able to get up...

01:41:21.000 That should be it.

01:41:23.000 Yeah, no doubt about that.

01:41:25.000 If you're not able to answer the bell...

01:41:27.000 But I think there was something else going on.

01:41:28.000 He was covered in something.

01:41:30.000 They had to wipe him off.

01:41:31.000 There was some shenanigans.

01:41:32.000 And there was ice on the ground, too.

01:41:33.000 I think they did all that shit on purpose.

01:41:35.000 All that shit on purpose.

01:41:37.000 Old school shit.

01:41:38.000 Angelo did that.

01:41:39.000 Angelo Dundee did that with Muhammad Ali back when he was Cassius Clay.

01:41:43.000 And he fought this dude in London.

01:41:45.000 No, he fought this...

01:41:46.000 I don't know if it was in London.

01:41:47.000 It was Henry Cooper.

01:41:49.000 Henry Cooper was this badass British dude who had a nasty left hook.

01:41:52.000 And he caught Cassius Clay with a perfect left hook.

01:41:55.000 Just bang!

01:41:56.000 Dropped him.

01:41:57.000 And it was at the end of the round.

01:41:58.000 And they cut his gloves in between rounds.

01:42:01.000 They had to give him new gloves.

01:42:03.000 They gave him plenty of time.

01:42:04.000 So this was after the fight.

01:42:06.000 They're yelling at each other.

01:42:08.000 Well, Tim was yelling at him.

01:42:11.000 King!

01:42:12.000 What the f***?

01:42:13.000 That's good.

01:42:14.000 If you can't get off the stool, if you can't get off the stool, that's the end of the fight.

01:42:17.000 You can't stand there for another minute.

01:42:19.000 You can't stand there for another minute.

01:42:24.000 Laborio is such a nice guy, too.

01:42:25.000 He's right, though.

01:42:26.000 He's right.

01:42:27.000 He's 100% right.

01:42:28.000 He's right.

01:42:28.000 But I think, like I said, I think there's a bunch of shenanigans that are involved.

01:42:31.000 I think there's too much Vaseline on him.

01:42:34.000 I think there was water all over him.

01:42:36.000 But there's a bunch of shit where they did a bunch of things to make sure that the round got extended.

01:42:41.000 How is the dirty business?

01:42:43.000 Speaking of dirty business, now that you saw this gone, how is this new testing thing?

01:42:47.000 Well, Walt Harris just got popped, right?

01:42:50.000 Yeah, four years.

01:42:51.000 That's a death sentence right there.

01:42:54.000 Yeah, you're done.

01:42:55.000 Yeah, Walt's already 40. Yeah, that's it.

01:42:57.000 And he got popped, allegedly, I should say, from what the report was that I read on one of the websites.

01:43:02.000 It was like three different things, three different times.

01:43:05.000 Yo, when you're 40, shit doesn't work so good.

01:43:08.000 Right, you kind of need it.

01:43:10.000 Yeah, it's kind of weird.

01:43:14.000 Like, we know this stuff really works, but you're not allowed to use it.

01:43:18.000 48 months sanction for two separate violations of the UFC anti-doping policy.

01:43:24.000 First tested positive.

01:43:26.000 What is that?

01:43:27.000 Tell me what that is.

01:43:28.000 No, Rollo.

01:43:30.000 Rollo knows what it is.

01:43:31.000 Where is it?

01:43:32.000 Draw standalone.

01:43:34.000 What is that?

01:43:35.000 Fuck all you guys.

01:43:36.000 I just think you're good at those words.

01:43:44.000 Metabolite 3A, hydroxy 2A, methyl 5A, androstan 17-on, and testosterone of exogenous origin.

01:43:52.000 And samples collected on June 24, 2023, July 12, 2023. Harris was notified of the first adverse finding on July 11th of 2020. So they told him that he got popped the first time and then he tested positive the next day.

01:44:09.000 Yeah.

01:44:09.000 Subsequently, after he was notified of the adverse finding, he provided urine and blood samples on August 6, 2023. Urine samples tested positive for the presence of anastrozolone, a prohibitive substance that was not present in any of the previous samples, as well as drostanolone and its metabolite.

01:44:29.000 His blood samples tested positive for the presence of exogenous testosterone.

01:44:33.000 Which based on its values was determined as a new administration since the notification of his first adverse findings on July 11th.

01:44:40.000 So I wasn't taking the test that day.

01:44:43.000 Wow.

01:44:44.000 Four years, that's a life sentence.

01:44:46.000 And how old is he now?

01:44:47.000 40. He was supposed to fight like four days after that.

01:44:50.000 It seems kind of crazy that he would just take all that stuff knowing that they were going to catch him.

01:44:55.000 Have you ever asked Nowitzki why they made BPC-157 illegal?

01:45:01.000 Like, it's not a performance enhancer.

01:45:02.000 Because some state regulators, like, you know, athletic commissions, they have it illegal.

01:45:10.000 Ah, alright, alright.

01:45:11.000 So if the UFC allows something that the athletic commissions don't allow, it really should be allowed by the athletic commissions.

01:45:18.000 100%.

01:45:19.000 It's all it's doing is helping people heal from injuries.

01:45:21.000 That's all it is?

01:45:22.000 So it's that the states are...

01:45:23.000 And it's a naturally occurring compound in the human body.

01:45:26.000 It's an amino acid.

01:45:27.000 Yeah.

01:45:28.000 So it's something that should be legal, and I think the FDA is trying to stop its use now, too, which is crazy.

01:45:35.000 Of course.

01:45:35.000 Anything that works.

01:45:36.000 Yeah, right.

01:45:37.000 Well, listen, you fuckheads, just sell it to us.

01:45:39.000 Just fucking sell it.

01:45:41.000 Don't be stupid.

01:45:42.000 There's a lot of money to be made.

01:45:43.000 I'll help you.

01:45:44.000 Just fucking make it legal and sell it.

01:45:46.000 It's good.

01:45:47.000 It's really good for injuries.

01:45:48.000 Really good for injuries, man.

01:45:50.000 Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff like that that should be legal.

01:45:52.000 The testosterone one, those boys went wild, and they fucked it up for everybody.

01:45:57.000 The TRT Vitor era.

01:45:58.000 Oh, yeah!

01:45:59.000 Those boys went wild!

01:46:01.000 Those boys went wild.

01:46:03.000 When you just take testosterone replacement, everybody's like, oh, I definitely have low testosterone.

01:46:08.000 Hook it up.

01:46:09.000 Eric Silva, he was another one that really noticeably changed.

01:46:13.000 Oh, a lot of dudes did.

01:46:15.000 Bro, we had guys that were 25 years old that were signing up for testosterone use exemptions.

01:46:20.000 That's gonna fuck them up when they're older though, no?

01:46:21.000 100%, but that was the thing.

01:46:23.000 A lot of those guys were already fucked up, because they did juice.

01:46:26.000 So if you're a young guy and you do like a bunch of cycles of juice and you get Gigantor, that is gonna jack up your system.

01:46:33.000 It takes a long time to recover.

01:46:35.000 Damn.

01:46:36.000 Yeah, so there's dudes that are like 25 years old that have wrecked their endocrine system, and they probably can't have kids.

01:46:41.000 Really?

01:46:42.000 Yeah.

01:46:42.000 Yeah, they have low sperm count.

01:46:44.000 Yeah, it can fuck you up.

01:46:45.000 When you see these social media kids that are like 18, 19 years old, and then all of a sudden when they're 22, they've gained 80 pounds of muscle, and they have zits all over their back, and they're fucking huge, and they're getting all this attention because they're massive.

01:47:00.000 And there's quite a few of these kids.

01:47:02.000 They're gonna ruin their body.

01:47:04.000 They're gonna ruin their endocrine system.

01:47:06.000 You're shocking your system at a very, very young age.

01:47:10.000 When you're on TRT, it's like fucking birth control for men.

01:47:14.000 I have been pulled out in years, son!

01:47:19.000 And I was able to...

01:47:20.000 I was able to...

01:47:21.000 I could have a kid.

01:47:23.000 When I want to have a kid, I don't know if it's because I go Commando forever, I'd have a kid.

01:47:27.000 My wife, I want to get pregnant.

01:47:29.000 I'm like, all right.

01:47:30.000 It worked.

01:47:31.000 So I know we were good to go, but ever since I'm on TRT... Isn't it funny?

01:47:36.000 Because the other idea for male birth control is the opposite.

01:47:39.000 There's a male birth control pill that came out that radically lowers testosterone levels.

01:47:44.000 Oh, fuck that.

01:47:45.000 But how many...

01:47:46.000 Hold on, why would you take that?

01:47:47.000 How many...

01:47:47.000 How many dominant women...

01:47:52.000 Who have cucked men are going to force them to take that stuff.

01:47:55.000 Slipping that shit in their oatmeal.

01:47:56.000 No, no, no.

01:47:57.000 Force them.

01:47:58.000 Force them to take it.

01:48:00.000 Force them.

01:48:00.000 None of that.

01:48:01.000 Why would anybody take that?

01:48:03.000 Because they don't want that as the wife.

01:48:04.000 They want the alpha.

01:48:06.000 Yeah, but they want to do that to the guy.

01:48:08.000 Some women like doing that.

01:48:09.000 They like doing that.

01:48:10.000 To curb them?

01:48:11.000 Yeah.

01:48:12.000 They'll turn you trans.

01:48:14.000 They'll do whatever they want to you.

01:48:15.000 They'll drain your bank account.

01:48:17.000 Leave you broken.

01:48:18.000 Bye!

01:48:20.000 Turn your trends.

01:48:21.000 Screw that.

01:48:21.000 Yeah, they'll make you.

01:48:24.000 It's just as there's certain people.

01:48:26.000 It's like your Kardashian skit.

01:48:29.000 Yeah, you gotta wonder, man.

01:48:32.000 Trying to be like a young kid in this day and age with social media, trying to be an 18, 19-year-old kid trying to fan your way through life, seeing these juiced-up, gigantic dudes getting attention, and girls with lip fillers at 18 years old, and everybody's got a Ferrari.

01:48:48.000 I think it's harder for them than it was for us, right?

01:48:51.000 Because of social media?

01:48:52.000 Way harder.

01:48:53.000 It's way harder because there's so much...

01:48:56.000 Chaos out there, like the guy getting shot in the dick.

01:48:58.000 You see things all the time that was really hard to see when we were kids.

01:49:02.000 Because I only knew motherfuckers in my neighborhood.

01:49:05.000 They got shot in the dick?

01:49:06.000 No, no, no.

01:49:09.000 I'm talking about just in general.

01:49:11.000 You only hung out with people in your neighborhood.

01:49:14.000 That was it.

01:49:14.000 And if you saw someone on TV that was like in a MTV music video or something like that, like that, okay.

01:49:21.000 But that's not even real world.

01:49:22.000 Right.

01:49:22.000 That's not the real world.

01:49:23.000 Right.

01:49:24.000 But if it's like some guy you know from your school now has a million followers on TikTok, like what?

01:49:29.000 Yeah.

01:49:29.000 You made $100,000.

01:49:30.000 What the fuck are you talking about?

01:49:32.000 How?

01:49:33.000 What are you doing?

01:49:34.000 I don't know, man.

01:49:35.000 Maybe because I got my kids homeschooled ever since the pandemic because we didn't want them wearing masks and all that shit.

01:49:39.000 My wife's lucky enough that, you know, we're lucky enough she gets to be a stay-at-home mom and whatnot.

01:49:45.000 Oh, I got ADD. What were we just...

01:49:47.000 Kids shooting people in the dicks.

01:49:50.000 People being able to see things that they never could see when we were kids.

01:49:53.000 And your kids are homeschooled.

01:49:54.000 Oh, yeah, this is what...

01:49:55.000 Sorry, I'm back.

01:49:56.000 It was...

01:49:57.000 The Zin's kicking in.

01:49:58.000 It was...

01:49:59.000 You know, we keep them close.

01:50:00.000 Like, nowadays, if they go to school all day, one, What the fuck are they telling these kids?

01:50:07.000 It's weird enough.

01:50:09.000 My friend's kid came home the other day and he's like, oh man, he's 10 years old.

01:50:14.000 He's like, oh dad, so when I grow up I could be a boy or a girl?

01:50:18.000 It's fucking...

01:50:19.000 My buddy's like a religious guy.

01:50:20.000 He's like, ah, fuck!

01:50:21.000 The guy moved to South Carolina.

01:50:23.000 He got the fuck out of New Long Island.

01:50:25.000 So I don't know where it is in different school systems, but I didn't like stuff like that.

01:50:29.000 It's not like when we were kids at school.

01:50:31.000 That stuff is so weird.

01:50:32.000 It's fucking strange.

01:50:33.000 But it just shows you that whatever is socially popular, people will gravitate to and that people will change their behavior based on what gets them more attention.

01:50:43.000 That's why I'm saying like...

01:50:44.000 Some of them are definitely trans.

01:50:46.000 Let's be...

01:50:47.000 That shit's existed since the beginning of time.

01:50:49.000 Men who feel like they were born in a woman's body.

01:50:51.000 But some of them are getting sucked into a social contagion.

01:50:55.000 The majority of them.

01:50:55.000 They think it's cool to be bi.

01:50:57.000 What are you?

01:50:58.000 Dude, it's just fucking weird.

01:51:00.000 If you want street cred, you've got to suck a dick.

01:51:03.000 Whether it's a transgender dick or a regular dick, you've got to experiment and suck a dick if you want some street cred.

01:51:08.000 No, I don't want a street cred.

01:51:10.000 No street cred to me.

01:51:11.000 That's what I think.

01:51:13.000 Today, they've gone to places where 50% of the kids identify as LGBTQA. 50%!

01:51:22.000 Really?

01:51:22.000 50%?

01:51:23.000 That's a joke.

01:51:24.000 If they're not being indoctrinated, then this never happens.

01:51:28.000 Well, it's just fascinating that it's working.

01:51:32.000 That's what's fascinating.

01:51:33.000 And when you look at the people, like, look, if you're going to pay someone 35 grand a year to take care of your kids, they're not going to be good people that are like dominant in their field and really on the ball.

01:51:41.000 You're going to get wacky people teaching kids.

01:51:43.000 And a lot of these people that are teaching kids in public schools that you see making these TikTok videos, they're wacky people that just happen to be in the position where they're running a school.

01:51:52.000 As a parent, though, I think you should just keep them close and just talk to them every day.

01:51:56.000 Yeah, you definitely need to talk to them, but, you know, they're gonna have to talk to other people, too.

01:52:01.000 And there's something about, like, running into really cuckoo people when you're young that's probably good for you, just so you know that they exist.

01:52:09.000 The problem is if they have too much influence over your kid and your kid starts believing things that they're saying and they indoctrinate you into some weird way of thinking that maybe you don't align with in your home and you don't want your child being raised that way, which is your prerogative as a person.

01:52:23.000 But also the kids should be exposed to a lot of weird shit.

01:52:27.000 It's good for them to see kooky people.

01:52:30.000 I think that's where me and Matt have a benefit because we're the kooky people that our kids see.

01:52:35.000 Yeah, we all are, right?

01:52:37.000 There's no way to avoid that.

01:52:39.000 If you're interested in what we're interested in.

01:52:42.000 That's true, right?

01:52:43.000 I always preface things when people ask me my opinions.

01:52:45.000 I'm like, listen, I'm a dirty comedian and a cage fighting commentator.

01:52:49.000 With that said, this is my dumbass perspective.

01:52:54.000 But understand who the fuck you're talking to.

01:52:57.000 Loosely educated at best.

01:52:58.000 Think about that.

01:52:59.000 Dirty comedian and you commentate fights.

01:53:02.000 Yeah, that's a perspective to...

01:53:04.000 Yeah, that's a person of questionable judgment.

01:53:09.000 Highly unnormal.

01:53:10.000 Communication's everything, though.

01:53:11.000 I don't remember my parents talking to me.

01:53:15.000 My kid's 15 now.

01:53:17.000 Dude, when I was 15, I'm sleeping over Jimmy's house.

01:53:21.000 I'd be walking the fucking streets, fighting and doing stuff.

01:53:23.000 I'm 15!

01:53:24.000 I can't think of it, my kid.

01:53:26.000 I never not know where she is.

01:53:27.000 I think it was a different time, Matt.

01:53:30.000 And I think their parents raised them in a different way.

01:53:33.000 It takes a while to understand why your parents raised you the way they raised you.

01:53:38.000 But it's because the way they were raised.

01:53:41.000 Look, my grandparents were straight up immigrants from Italy and from Ireland.

01:53:45.000 They're all people from the boat.

01:53:46.000 And those were wild people.

01:53:48.000 Those people that took a chance and got on that fucking boat and made it across the ocean.

01:53:52.000 Yeah, a bunch of wild people.

01:53:54.000 And they didn't have a whole lot of time for parenting.

01:53:56.000 You know, and then their kids grew up and had kids and then their kids had kids.

01:54:00.000 It's like it takes a while for everybody to settle down.

01:54:03.000 I think people are...

01:54:04.000 We have way more information today than ever before, which is probably good for kids.

01:54:09.000 It's good to be aware of all the different types of humans and all the different possibilities of good and bad things that can happen in the world.

01:54:17.000 But also, it's got to be overwhelming, man.

01:54:20.000 It's got to be overwhelming to be a kid and to think you've got to worry about climate change and Ukraine and Russia and fucking Mexicans.

01:54:29.000 It's just every day it's something new.

01:54:32.000 That's the thing.

01:54:32.000 The phone puts it in their face all day every day.

01:54:35.000 Every day it's something new.

01:54:37.000 We didn't have any of that shit.

01:54:38.000 Biden falling down the flight stairs, Trump calling somebody a pussy.

01:54:42.000 It's every day.

01:54:44.000 It's like this is crazy.

01:54:45.000 Yeah, life is fun now.

01:54:46.000 It is definitely fun if you're an adult.

01:54:48.000 If you're an adult and you're not being affected negatively by it.

01:54:52.000 Well, because we, like you said, we come up from a different generation where we didn't grow up doing that.

01:54:57.000 Right.

01:54:57.000 So we can live without it.

01:54:59.000 We're also, all of us are in wild businesses.

01:55:01.000 Yeah.

01:55:02.000 This is a wild business.

01:55:03.000 You're in the business of people beating the shit out of each other.

01:55:06.000 You know, this is a wild business.

01:55:08.000 It's a wild business.

01:55:09.000 It's funny that it is where it is now.

01:55:12.000 Like, I remember coming up, we were talking about before being OGs, like, I remember each fight thinking, alright, this might be the last one, and it's gonna be done.

01:55:18.000 You know what I mean?

01:55:19.000 So now it's just such a mainstream thing.

01:55:22.000 It's crazy.

01:55:23.000 I remember very clearly Eddie Bravo and I were having a conversation, and it's almost like we manifested this.

01:55:29.000 We said, dude, we know MMA is awesome.

01:55:32.000 Wouldn't it be crazy if just some fucking billionaire dudes who were fans of the sport just dumped a bunch of money in it just to show everybody, and then it would just catch on.

01:55:43.000 I was like, if somebody just came along, that would work, man.

01:55:46.000 That's the only way it would work.

01:55:47.000 Somebody would have to lose tons and tons of money just to get it out there.

01:55:51.000 And that's what they did.

01:55:52.000 It's literally like it was manifested.

01:55:55.000 Lorenzo and Frank Fatida.

01:55:56.000 It's amazing.

01:55:57.000 And they just really loved it.

01:55:58.000 They loved it.

01:55:59.000 They trained.

01:56:00.000 They were tough guys.

01:56:01.000 They loved it.

01:56:02.000 They lost like 50, 60 million before they made money.

01:56:05.000 That's how much they loved it.

01:56:06.000 They were down more than 40 million when the first Ultimate Fighter came around.

01:56:11.000 And they funded that whole thing.

01:56:13.000 They funded the whole thing.

01:56:14.000 They just rolled the dice and came up double six.

01:56:19.000 For real?

01:56:19.000 Yeah, when you think about the chain of events that had to have to happen.

01:56:23.000 That made it.

01:56:24.000 The Fertittas, then the Forrest fight, and then just everything that happened.

01:56:28.000 And you have to have a guy like Dana.

01:56:29.000 You have to have a complete maniac running the show.

01:56:33.000 You have to have a guy like that.

01:56:34.000 People don't understand how much of a maniac he is.

01:56:36.000 Like in cycle in terms of like his work ethic.

01:56:39.000 Oh, he's a maniac.

01:56:40.000 I mean, that's pretty obvious.

01:56:41.000 The guy works constantly.

01:56:42.000 He loves it.

01:56:44.000 He loves setting fights up.

01:56:46.000 We'll talk at two o'clock in the morning for like hours just about match-ups and shit.

01:56:51.000 Did you see the other day on the podcast when the girls...

01:56:54.000 She's interviewing them, right?

01:56:56.000 And she's like, tell me, what does Joe Rogan think of whatever it was?

01:57:02.000 And he's like, what does Joe Rogan think?

01:57:05.000 She goes, Dana White.

01:57:07.000 He goes, wait, you think I'm Joe Rogan?

01:57:09.000 He goes, I came in through this podcast.

01:57:11.000 You know that UFC events, like the weeks of the events or when I'm doing a looking for a fight.

01:57:16.000 You've been there.

01:57:17.000 Oh, man.

01:57:17.000 I have a picture of this and that.

01:57:19.000 I'm like, oh, well.

01:57:19.000 All right.

01:57:21.000 And, you know, thanks a lot, Mr. Waido.

01:57:23.000 Thanks a lot.

01:57:24.000 They always think he's either Joe or Dana.

01:57:28.000 People call me Dana.

01:57:30.000 I've been called Dana before, so I'm doing, it's all Dana!

01:57:32.000 I go, no, I'm the other dude.

01:57:36.000 What the hell is this?

01:57:37.000 It happens all the time.

01:57:39.000 But I think she just made a mental fluff.

01:57:41.000 Are they trying to say all bald white guys look alike?

01:57:43.000 When you're doing a podcast and you're interviewing someone, especially if you haven't done a lot of them and it's like a high profile thing, you're doing Dana White, you're always thinking of what to say.

01:57:51.000 Even the question is like, what's your dream?

01:57:54.000 That's a crazy question.

01:57:55.000 That's like, I don't know what to ask you.

01:57:57.000 What's your dream?

01:57:59.000 So she's probably floundering a little bit there and doesn't know what to say.

01:58:03.000 It's fucking weird having a conversation with someone live.

01:58:06.000 But I think he handled it the right way, right?

01:58:07.000 By making fun of it.

01:58:09.000 Yeah, and she handled it the right way, too.

01:58:10.000 She kept it in there.

01:58:11.000 She edited it out.

01:58:12.000 It's funny.

01:58:13.000 It is funny.

01:58:14.000 It's just a flub.

01:58:15.000 I've done it all the time.

01:58:16.000 It happens.

01:58:17.000 People fucked up.

01:58:18.000 It wouldn't have been funny if they called fucking Dean Thomas Pete Spratt or something.

01:58:21.000 That would be fucking racist.

01:58:23.000 I wouldn't laugh at that shit.

01:58:24.000 Somebody called you Pete Spratt?

01:58:26.000 No, no, they used to always do that.

01:58:29.000 Oh, just for fun.

01:58:29.000 Yeah, just for fun.

01:58:30.000 Just for fun.

01:58:31.000 How about the fuck I took a picture where you thought you were Eve Edwards?

01:58:34.000 Don't say that was just for fun.

01:58:35.000 Or the one time on Looking for a Fight, Habib really thought I was Eve.

01:58:38.000 He was like, you knocked out my teammate.

01:58:42.000 I'm like, what are you talking about?

01:58:43.000 He's like, Josh Thompson.

01:58:43.000 I was like, no, man, that was Eve.

01:58:45.000 That's what it was.

01:58:47.000 Isn't it wild how Khabib just said, nope, done.

01:58:50.000 See ya.

01:58:50.000 Bye.

01:58:51.000 Promise my mom, I'm done.

01:58:53.000 I mean, when you're that good, and your life is...

01:58:56.000 Pretty incredible, though.

01:58:57.000 What a legacy, right?

01:58:59.000 Undefeated.

01:59:00.000 Only one fight was kind of close.

01:59:02.000 The Gleason-Tebow fight.

01:59:03.000 Go back and watch that one.

01:59:04.000 I thought Gleason might have won that one.

01:59:07.000 It was arguable.

01:59:08.000 If they gave it to him, nobody would protest.

01:59:12.000 It was close.

01:59:13.000 Pre-USADA. Pre-USADA. That's true.

01:59:17.000 My man, Gleason, was built like a fucking superhero.

01:59:23.000 Like a fucking Teletubby on steroids.

01:59:27.000 That was those Sean Shirk days, son.

01:59:30.000 Yeah.

01:59:30.000 The muscle shark.

01:59:32.000 The muscle shark.

01:59:33.000 Remember Shirk?

01:59:33.000 Shirk was a little fucking demon.

01:59:35.000 He was a little fireplug.

01:59:36.000 Demon.

01:59:37.000 Shirk was one of the first guys that had preposterous strength and conditioning.

01:59:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:59:42.000 His strength and conditioning.

01:59:42.000 Him and Rich Franklin.

01:59:43.000 They would do these strength.

01:59:46.000 Look at Glaeson.

01:59:46.000 He's a Brazilian hero.

01:59:47.000 Look at his biceps.

01:59:49.000 Jesus Christ.

01:59:50.000 The thing about Glaeson that always used to freak me out was the fact that he could make 155. I know.

01:59:54.000 I was like, how?

01:59:56.000 Because I would stand next to him.

01:59:57.000 I'm like, how are you?

01:59:58.000 You're so much bigger than me.

01:59:59.000 How the fuck are you 155?

02:00:00.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:00:01.000 And Glaeson got him down in this one, didn't he?

02:00:04.000 A couple times.

02:00:04.000 Glaeson, he hurt him on the feet.

02:00:07.000 Glaeson was a dangerous fighter, man.

02:00:08.000 Whatever happened to Glaeson?

02:00:09.000 Well, you know, he got older, had a lot of wars, you know.

02:00:16.000 Didn't Islam KO him?

02:00:17.000 Islam KO'd him, yeah.

02:00:19.000 Yeah, Islam KO'd him bad.

02:00:20.000 It was a bad one.

02:00:21.000 He's had a few KO losses.

02:00:23.000 He's a tough dude, though.

02:00:24.000 Yeah, and he fought, I think, a few times in PFL or something.

02:00:29.000 But they're going to war.

02:00:30.000 Wow.

02:00:32.000 Gleason was a house, though.

02:00:34.000 The thing is, Khabib looks natural and he looks fucking...

02:00:37.000 But look, he can't take Gleason down, which is crazy.

02:00:40.000 That's how strong Gleason was.

02:00:42.000 Yeah.

02:00:43.000 I mean, Khabib takes everybody down.

02:00:44.000 But Khabib looks smaller then.

02:00:46.000 Yeah, he does, doesn't he?

02:00:48.000 Physically?

02:00:49.000 No doubt about it.

02:00:50.000 He's much smaller.

02:00:50.000 You look at him and now look at him against Conor.

02:00:53.000 Let's just look at this right now.

02:00:55.000 Pause this.

02:00:56.000 Now go to Khabib versus Conor.

02:00:58.000 How old was he here?

02:00:59.000 He looks young.

02:01:00.000 Well, he's young, one of the first fights in the UFC, but made a marked improvement in that department.

02:01:06.000 Because he looked way stronger later in his career.

02:01:08.000 Like when he fought Gaethje, he looked way stronger.

02:01:11.000 Yeah.

02:01:11.000 Way stronger.

02:01:12.000 Developed that man strength.

02:01:13.000 Yeah.

02:01:14.000 Six years later, too.

02:01:15.000 Six years later, that's a big thing.

02:01:17.000 Yeah, look at him there.

02:01:18.000 Come on, bro.

02:01:19.000 That's a different dude.

02:01:21.000 Look at the difference, man.

02:01:22.000 Oh, 100%.

02:01:23.000 Go back to that picture again.

02:01:24.000 Yeah, he's all smooth here.

02:01:26.000 Now go to another one.

02:01:27.000 The other one that you just showed me.

02:01:29.000 Look at him, bro.

02:01:30.000 That's that man's strength there.

02:01:32.000 That's also I want to kill you motivation.

02:01:34.000 Yeah, it is.

02:01:34.000 I mean, he got in fucking shape for Conor.

02:01:38.000 When he's standing on top of him, punching him, let's talk now.

02:01:41.000 Let's talk now.

02:01:43.000 You know what?

02:01:44.000 I was surprised Conor didn't quit at that moment because he was getting his ass whooped.

02:01:48.000 I don't think Conor's ever going to do that.

02:01:50.000 Well, Conor did say to him, you know, it's just business or something.

02:01:54.000 And then he said something like, no, I didn't say that.

02:01:56.000 He definitely did.

02:01:57.000 He gets a lot of fucking...

02:01:58.000 He was probably a little rattled.

02:02:01.000 I mean, it wasn't going his way.

02:02:04.000 He did win a round, but it seemed like it was a round that Khabib took off.

02:02:08.000 Yeah.

02:02:08.000 Khabib kind of coasted for a round and then got back on him again.

02:02:12.000 Khabib just knew how to wear you out, man.

02:02:14.000 That thousand-yard stare that dudes would have when he'd grab ahold of him.

02:02:18.000 Look, Edson Barboza, that's the best one.

02:02:19.000 Look at his eyes.

02:02:21.000 Yeah, Edson or Michael Johnson.

02:02:23.000 I was going, please tap.

02:02:26.000 I was anticipating that spiral fracture that guys get when they don't tap to the Kimura.

02:02:31.000 I don't like that.

02:02:32.000 Kimura's an ugly break.

02:02:35.000 Minotauro vs.

02:02:36.000 Frank Mee is the ugliest example of that.

02:02:38.000 Don't be stubborn with that, man.

02:02:40.000 I saw it in a jiu-jitsu tournament.

02:02:41.000 I don't like that.

02:02:42.000 Recently online.

02:02:42.000 Some kid snapped.

02:02:44.000 His arm just goes limp.

02:02:45.000 It's horrible.

02:02:46.000 And it happened quick, too, man.

02:02:48.000 The guy just turned it.

02:02:49.000 He turned the corner.

02:02:50.000 It just popped right in his arm.

02:02:51.000 And he goes like this and backs up.

02:02:53.000 Oh, it's awful.

02:02:54.000 I had a guy the other day.

02:02:56.000 Listen, people fall asleep all the time.

02:02:57.000 You know what happens?

02:02:59.000 Our goal is to, you know, put someone to sleep or get a limb.

02:03:03.000 So sometimes if the guy's a little stubborn, you know, an arm lock or, you know, usually it's like, ah, you know, and they'll stop, if anything.

02:03:11.000 But with the choke, sometimes you don't know.

02:03:13.000 So the bread cutter, you know the bread cutter?

02:03:15.000 Fucking when the arm's down like this?

02:03:16.000 I love that fucking one.

02:03:17.000 It's so good.

02:03:19.000 One of my black belts, Gord, he went with this other guy.

02:03:22.000 Now this other guy, Syed's a strong fucking...

02:03:25.000 Like, Middle Eastern guy.

02:03:26.000 And he's...

02:03:26.000 Dude, he's not in that quick tap club.

02:03:28.000 And it's not good.

02:03:29.000 See, this is the second time he went out.

02:03:30.000 But this time when he goes out, I go over.

02:03:33.000 Like, you know, you pick up the legs.

02:03:35.000 So I go over to him.

02:03:35.000 And I always usually make a joke.

02:03:37.000 And like, you know, because they usually come right back.

02:03:39.000 So I'm like, hey, look, I'm in your bedroom.

02:03:40.000 Hey, remember I slept over.

02:03:41.000 You know what I'm thinking?

02:03:42.000 And he's looking at me.

02:03:43.000 Dude, in 30 years, I've never seen one like this.

02:03:46.000 Because I don't know how long this guy had him out.

02:03:48.000 His eyes were open.

02:03:49.000 He looked like a fucking zombie.

02:03:51.000 He's got my wrist.

02:03:52.000 He's going...

02:03:52.000 I'm like, whoa!

02:03:55.000 And I go, say it!

02:03:57.000 And he's like, oh!

02:03:59.000 His eyes will, like he was out but not.

02:04:02.000 He might have been out for a while.

02:04:03.000 And he had my wrist.

02:04:05.000 I thought it was you fucking grabbing me.

02:04:06.000 I go, hey, dude.

02:04:08.000 I had a neon belly on him.

02:04:09.000 I'm like, don't let go of his legs.

02:04:11.000 I didn't want him to move.

02:04:13.000 It actually was starting to scare me a little bit.

02:04:16.000 How long did it take before he came back?

02:04:18.000 It felt like fucking eternity.

02:04:19.000 It was a few seconds.

02:04:21.000 And his eyes would just open the whole time.

02:04:23.000 I'm like, dude, is this fucking...

02:04:24.000 What am I dealing with here?

02:04:26.000 And then he started to...

02:04:29.000 The whole time he's clenching his...

02:04:31.000 He's got my wrist.

02:04:33.000 And I go, dude, are you back?

02:04:35.000 Did you sign a waiver?

02:04:36.000 No, I didn't say...

02:04:36.000 I go, uh...

02:04:38.000 He was okay.

02:04:39.000 He was alright.

02:04:40.000 And then the best was...

02:04:42.000 That guy Gord's a big, sweetheart of a guy.

02:04:44.000 He's like a half a hippie, you know?

02:04:46.000 He looks like Kung Fu Panda.

02:04:47.000 He's been calling me later.

02:04:50.000 He goes, you know, I haven't seen Syed since.

02:04:53.000 Is he alright?

02:04:54.000 He goes, come to think of it, nobody's seen this motherfucker.

02:04:56.000 I go, Sue, check up on this guy.

02:04:58.000 My girl, check up on him.

02:05:01.000 He came back the next day.

02:05:02.000 He was fucking fine.

02:05:04.000 Nobody's seen him.

02:05:05.000 He might have been a little embarrassed.

02:05:07.000 Nah, he's a nice guy.

02:05:08.000 I go, listen.

02:05:08.000 Then I found out, it was like the second time he went out.

02:05:11.000 I go, dude, you can't.

02:05:11.000 I go, this is a tap.

02:05:13.000 You gotta tap.

02:05:13.000 I go, and I go, Henzo, because listen, it happens once in a while.

02:05:16.000 It happened to me once.

02:05:17.000 I don't know if it ever happened to you guys.

02:05:18.000 You ever get put to sleep?

02:05:19.000 I never got put to sleep.

02:05:20.000 I was a purple belt in the city, and I was going with this other purple belt.

02:05:24.000 I didn't even like this guy.

02:05:25.000 This guy's a little prick.

02:05:26.000 I'll tell you his name of the ass.

02:05:26.000 I don't want to give him any street cred, right?

02:05:29.000 He was a purple from Pennsylvania.

02:05:32.000 Never liked him.

02:05:32.000 I would always best him.

02:05:33.000 But he was just like a dicky dude.

02:05:36.000 So he was trying to fucking...

02:05:37.000 And he was not bad at jiu-jitsu.

02:05:38.000 So he's in my guard trying to strangle me.

02:05:41.000 Amateur move, you know, feet and hips, flipped them over, mounted them, fell asleep.

02:05:45.000 Motherfucker had it on still, you know?

02:05:46.000 So I'm like, what the fuck?

02:05:49.000 Henzo like woke me up.

02:05:49.000 He didn't want to make a scene.

02:05:50.000 He goes, nah, nah, he's okay.

02:05:52.000 So then the guy went back after me, and I woke up like during it.

02:05:55.000 I'm like, what the fuck?

02:05:56.000 And then I kind of, then I realized what's going on.

02:05:58.000 I fucked him up.

02:05:59.000 But I remember afterwards...

02:06:00.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute.

02:06:01.000 So they didn't stop the match?

02:06:02.000 No, it was during the whole night of rolling.

02:06:06.000 No, it wasn't a match.

02:06:07.000 It was us just training on a whatever night.

02:06:10.000 It was back to the Gracie Kukuk days.

02:06:12.000 Craig Kukuk days.

02:06:15.000 He's the guy that had those videotapes, right?

02:06:17.000 I learned jiu-jitsu from him.

02:06:19.000 I learned a solid amount of skating in that.

02:06:23.000 He was my first instructor.

02:06:25.000 I got my blue belt under Craig.

02:06:26.000 Craig came to New Jersey first, and Henzo came two years later.

02:06:31.000 And then later on, they ended up having a split, and Henzo came to me.

02:06:34.000 You know the story.

02:06:35.000 Where'd that Ku Klux guy go?

02:06:37.000 Idaho or something.

02:06:38.000 Yeah, I think he is in Idaho.

02:06:40.000 He was a very good instructor.

02:06:41.000 He was under Horion and Hoyce, and then they disowned him for some business reasons, you know?

02:06:47.000 How weird.

02:06:49.000 When I seen shit like that, I had like a newsletter of the Gracie newsletter.

02:06:54.000 I was like a 17-year-old.

02:06:55.000 Because my father was a martial artist.

02:06:57.000 This is before Black Belt magazine days.

02:07:00.000 So I'm like, wait.

02:07:01.000 So then I found out they did something at Black Belt where he was going to be in a...

02:07:05.000 New Jersey doing one day a week in Manhattan at Oishi's Judo Club down in the village over there.

02:07:10.000 So I go, I gotta take advantage of this.

02:07:12.000 I knew they kicked him out, but I knew they already awarded him, so there he is!

02:07:16.000 Big German guy.

02:07:18.000 He was a very good teacher.

02:07:19.000 So my foundation is like...

02:07:22.000 How long ago was this, Jamie?

02:07:24.000 Does it say down there when it was uploaded?

02:07:26.000 This is probably 90s.

02:07:27.000 11 years early 90s.

02:07:28.000 This is from the 92, though.

02:07:30.000 Oh, the video's from 92?

02:07:31.000 The video was re-uploaded and remastered 11 years ago.

02:07:35.000 This is very old, though.

02:07:36.000 It was a DVD, so it wouldn't be a video.

02:07:38.000 Oh, interesting.

02:07:39.000 And it's funny, because when he started training, he didn't like the gi.

02:07:41.000 He's like, I don't even own a gi.

02:07:43.000 He's that guy.

02:07:44.000 But he was a very good teacher.

02:07:46.000 He learned how to whore in on hoist.

02:07:48.000 But the problem was he wasn't a very personable guy.

02:07:51.000 Like he was...

02:07:52.000 Like you could never get too close to the guy.

02:07:53.000 And him and Henzo had like a falling out business-wise.

02:07:57.000 And I was almost...

02:07:57.000 I felt...

02:07:58.000 I was a young kid at the time.

02:07:59.000 So I remember Henzo took me out to eat afterwards.

02:08:01.000 And he goes, look, one day after training...

02:08:03.000 And he told me.

02:08:04.000 He goes, look...

02:08:05.000 Now that I got my green card, I'm getting away from this motherfucker.

02:08:09.000 And he goes, if you go with him...

02:08:11.000 So that guy tried to kind of cockblock his green card.

02:08:15.000 Yeah, it wasn't as good.

02:08:17.000 And then I remember Henzo going, if you go with him, some guys will go just because of you.

02:08:22.000 Nobody likes this motherfucker.

02:08:24.000 Henzo goes, if you go with him...

02:08:25.000 He goes, but I want you to come with me, and this and that.

02:08:28.000 It wasn't even a choice.

02:08:29.000 Because Henzo was like family.

02:08:30.000 And I'm a loyal guy.

02:08:31.000 I felt like parents were breaking up a little bit.

02:08:33.000 But like...

02:08:34.000 But Henzo is a gem.

02:08:38.000 I want him to run for president.

02:08:41.000 I want him to run for president.

02:08:44.000 You can't have Brazilian citizens run for president in America, unfortunately.

02:08:48.000 He's a great human being.

02:08:50.000 Isn't that kind of weird?

02:08:50.000 You could live here, but you can't run it.

02:08:52.000 We just want to make sure we don't get some foreign infiltrators.

02:08:55.000 It's like some old-school espionage shit.

02:08:57.000 Someone takes their child, this is going to be the next president to destroy the world.

02:09:04.000 He's the best.

02:09:05.000 No, I mean, Enzo, he's such a great human being.

02:09:09.000 He's done so much for me.

02:09:10.000 He's the best.

02:09:11.000 Everybody loves Enzo.

02:09:13.000 I've never met anybody who doesn't.

02:09:15.000 It's true.

02:09:16.000 And the thing about Henzo is the nicest fucking guy there is.

02:09:19.000 Yeah.

02:09:20.000 No, he's the best.

02:09:21.000 He'll switch it in a heartbeat.

02:09:22.000 In a half a second.

02:09:24.000 In a fucking half a second.

02:09:27.000 Listen, he was in a...

02:09:29.000 Really quick.

02:09:30.000 He was with his son, Huron, who's a sweet kid.

02:09:32.000 And he told this story on my podcast, but I'll try to do it justice.

02:09:37.000 He's the best storyteller.

02:09:39.000 They pulled into a gas station, right?

02:09:41.000 And he was in a little sports car that he was giving to his son, Huron.

02:09:45.000 And then somebody, there was some guys, some street guys going, you know, that's a chick's car, something like that, right?

02:09:52.000 And he saw his son's face get a little sad.

02:09:55.000 So he gets out, he goes, hey, come, see the size of my vagina!

02:10:01.000 He goes, come on!

02:10:02.000 Let's see.

02:10:03.000 And he goes, oh!

02:10:04.000 He don't got no...

02:10:05.000 Hanzo's a fucking nut.

02:10:06.000 Come on, man.

02:10:09.000 He's fucking nuts.

02:10:10.000 I always get into drama, too.

02:10:11.000 Yeah, Hanzo don't give a fuck, man.

02:10:13.000 Hanzo...

02:10:13.000 Like, my first shoot-fighting match...

02:10:16.000 Like, I... My first time ever fighting in a cage.

02:10:19.000 It was at Big Dan.

02:10:20.000 You know Big Dan, the ref?

02:10:21.000 He used to have shoot-fighting matches.

02:10:23.000 I remember.

02:10:24.000 At his school in Elizabeth, New Jersey.

02:10:25.000 It was like Bama Fight Nights or something like that.

02:10:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:10:27.000 So, my first time ever as a Purple Belt...

02:10:30.000 First time ever doing any kind of combat.

02:10:31.000 I did a jiu-jitsu tournament, but I never fought before.

02:10:34.000 So he came, and it was like a three-week notice thing, but I was always in shape.

02:10:39.000 So I asked Henzel, you know, what do you do like the day of the fight?

02:10:41.000 I was a little nervous, you know, and I'm thinking the crazies with their diet and this and that.

02:10:44.000 He goes, this is what you do.

02:10:46.000 You go to GNC, you get the Rippin Fuel.

02:10:50.000 Get one of those, you feel good all day.

02:10:52.000 So back then, there's the Fedra back then.

02:10:55.000 So I'm like, all right, Rippin Fuel, right?

02:10:57.000 Again, I took one on backstage and stuff going on.

02:11:00.000 I'm a little nervous.

02:11:01.000 I took another one.

02:11:02.000 Oh no.

02:11:04.000 Let me do one more.

02:11:04.000 I'm fucking, I don't know what this stuff is.

02:11:06.000 Henzo's.

02:11:07.000 So I took like fucking three.

02:11:08.000 So I fought some kid from Virginia who was like a blue belt level or something.

02:11:12.000 And this was with rope escapes.

02:11:14.000 So I went out there fucking, kind of like I am now.

02:11:16.000 So I fucking like all hyped up.

02:11:18.000 Boom.

02:11:19.000 Took him down.

02:11:20.000 Bah.

02:11:20.000 Rear naked choke.

02:11:21.000 He grabs the rope.

02:11:22.000 So I get him in two seconds, he gets out, so I get a point, but then they started on, so I started over, I take him down again, he starts clamming up, there's no striking on the floor in the face.

02:11:31.000 So it goes the distance, because I'm exhausted, I got exhausted because of the fucking, my heart wouldn't stop.

02:11:37.000 Afterwards, I couldn't even walk back, I'm like, dude, this fighting is exhausting, meanwhile it's the fucking Ephedra.

02:11:42.000 After the fight, Bart Vow.

02:11:43.000 You know who Bart Vow is?

02:11:45.000 He was one of the refs.

02:11:46.000 Somehow he knew Dan through the shoot fighting.

02:11:48.000 Him and Henzo were supposed to fight.

02:11:51.000 I remember that, yeah.

02:11:54.000 One and done event.

02:11:55.000 It was like a UFC wannabe, but Henzo fought three times in one night.

02:11:59.000 And that guy fought for some Hawaiian guy, and they both got injured.

02:12:02.000 He got out.

02:12:03.000 But he was a big...

02:12:04.000 He looked like a big fucking...

02:12:06.000 He gave me my first cauliflower ear.

02:12:08.000 He's got a nice mullet.

02:12:10.000 It's like Rollo with a mullet.

02:12:13.000 Didn't he have a crazy mustache?

02:12:14.000 Yeah, he had a crazy mustache.

02:12:16.000 I saw Bart Vale.

02:12:17.000 Henzo was in my corner, so afterwards...

02:12:19.000 He's a big dude.

02:12:20.000 He's like 50 or so.

02:12:22.000 Henzo, so afterwards, he saw...

02:12:25.000 Even though we went the distance, I won because I got the choke.

02:12:30.000 So Bart Vale was going like that.

02:12:34.000 Enzo jumps up on the...

02:12:35.000 There he is.

02:12:36.000 Enzo thought he was going, me and you?

02:12:37.000 Enzo thought he was calling Enzo.

02:12:38.000 Enzo went over there to fucking go jump on.

02:12:41.000 Really?

02:12:41.000 Yeah, yeah, fuck yeah!

02:12:44.000 I mean, he was a big dude, man.

02:12:46.000 Oh, he was a massive dude.

02:12:47.000 And he was in the early, early days of bare-knuckle MMA. It was like something out of Fraga Rock or something.

02:12:54.000 I remember that event.

02:12:56.000 That's like Eric Paulson and Matt Hume.

02:12:58.000 Yeah.

02:12:59.000 James Waring.

02:13:00.000 Eric Paulson is a very good fighter.

02:13:04.000 But I mean, it was the same time frame.

02:13:07.000 James Waring...

02:13:09.000 Fucking schoolyard.

02:13:10.000 He fucking wrapped his hair around.

02:13:12.000 He's a boxer.

02:13:12.000 Yeah, I remember.

02:13:13.000 And Eric Paulson's a very complete fighter.

02:13:15.000 He's a very well-rounded Jikuno guy.

02:13:16.000 Yeah, he cheated.

02:13:17.000 He'd fight over in Shudo.

02:13:18.000 Well, I don't think they would know you're allowed to go back then.

02:13:20.000 I mean, he tried to go through the striking side with his grappling experience, Paulson.

02:13:26.000 What does that mean?

02:13:27.000 Like, they had two divisions.

02:13:28.000 It was grapplers and strikers.

02:13:30.000 Oh, that's interesting.

02:13:32.000 And then the end of it was the guy who won the striking side fought the guy who won the grappling side.

02:13:37.000 That's not right, though, because Henzo fought a Judica.

02:13:39.000 I mean, they were still fighting, but they had rules on how long you could be on the ground, all that shit.

02:13:45.000 Like, I remember.

02:13:45.000 Really?

02:13:46.000 He's cool, Mr. Waring, actually.

02:13:47.000 I met him down in Florida.

02:13:48.000 Yeah, he's a...

02:13:49.000 Nice guy.

02:13:50.000 He's on the athletic commission.

02:13:51.000 You ever see when Matt Hume fought Pat Militech?

02:13:54.000 Oh, that was a good fight.

02:13:55.000 I didn't realize how good Matt Hume was.

02:13:56.000 Matt Hume was good, good.

02:13:59.000 He was very good.

02:14:00.000 Yeah, I remember I trained with him in Japan the first time I fought Uno, and he beat the shit out of me.

02:14:05.000 I was like, man, I shouldn't even be here.

02:14:07.000 Mighty Mouse says he still beats his ass.

02:14:08.000 I'm sure.

02:14:09.000 And he's like 50. Yeah, I'm sure.

02:14:12.000 He's got to be older than 50, man.

02:14:14.000 He's got to be older than 50. I'm about to be 50. He might be 60. Matt Hume was good.

02:14:19.000 He was very good.

02:14:20.000 Yeah.

02:14:21.000 I was always fascinated that he didn't continue to fight.

02:14:24.000 Remember he did contenders too where they had to grapple like the wrestlers.

02:14:28.000 Didn't he?

02:14:28.000 Was it Kenny Monday?

02:14:29.000 Yeah.

02:14:30.000 Kenny Monday tried to go for his legs.

02:14:33.000 Yeah.

02:14:34.000 Whatever like that.

02:14:35.000 And that was when Frank Shamrock...

02:14:37.000 Kevin Jackson?

02:14:39.000 No, no, no.

02:14:40.000 Kevin Jackson was in the UFC. Oh, that was in the UFC. That was Dan Henderson.

02:14:46.000 Was it Dan Henderson?

02:14:46.000 Yeah, he got Dan Henderson.

02:14:47.000 He caught him in like an ankle lock.

02:14:49.000 Was that when Bustamante fought Erickson?

02:14:51.000 No.

02:14:52.000 Or was that a different event?

02:14:52.000 Different event.

02:14:53.000 That was a different event.

02:14:54.000 That was an MMA event.

02:14:56.000 That was Mars.

02:14:56.000 Yeah, Mars.

02:14:57.000 Yeah, 30 minute time limit.

02:15:00.000 He fought Tom Erickson for 45 minutes.

02:15:02.000 Murillo Bustamante and Fabio Gagello are two of my all-time favorite Jiu-Jitsu fans.

02:15:07.000 Me too.

02:15:08.000 I'm with you.

02:15:11.000 I remember that.

02:15:12.000 Because he tapped him out and Big John stopped the fight.

02:15:15.000 I thought Bustamante beat Chuck Liddell in that fight too.

02:15:17.000 Me too!

02:15:18.000 I thought he outstruck him.

02:15:19.000 I thought he won that fight.

02:15:20.000 Boy, I'd have to go back and watch that again.

02:15:22.000 You know what it was?

02:15:22.000 Me too.

02:15:23.000 He was a beast.

02:15:24.000 He was so comfortable on the back.

02:15:25.000 Sometimes Chuck would do a punch and he'd go back with it.

02:15:27.000 The optics were a little weird.

02:15:29.000 But I think that guy...

02:15:32.000 What I love about those guys is that if you've seen those guys in Abu Dhabi, you've seen them in a jiu-jitsu tournament, you've seen them in MMA, their jiu-jitsu transitions...

02:15:40.000 That's like, who did I just say earlier?

02:15:43.000 The young kid.

02:15:43.000 Not young kid, he's younger than me, I guess.

02:15:45.000 Lovato.

02:15:46.000 Here's Bustamante and Chuck.

02:15:47.000 Here's Bustamante and Chuck right here.

02:15:50.000 And Bustamante was an 85er, right?

02:15:52.000 Yeah.

02:15:53.000 This is a crazy fight, if you think about it.

02:15:57.000 How many times did Bustamante fight 205?

02:16:00.000 He was pretty...

02:16:00.000 I mean, for a jujitsu guy, he was pretty well-rounded, especially for that time.

02:16:05.000 For that time, for sure he was.

02:16:06.000 None of the guys would be on their feet.

02:16:09.000 He was awesome, real Bustamante.

02:16:11.000 And people sleep on Chuck.

02:16:13.000 They didn't realize Chuck was a wrestler.

02:16:15.000 That was a good right hand by Chuck, though.

02:16:17.000 Chuck got the touch of death don't you that's what like but Chuck when he hung in there too long like I like when the guys What we just talk about it's unfortunate that they don't have a fucking exit strategy, you know And then also, if you've had a bunch of wars, you're probably not thinking so good anymore.

02:16:34.000 It's hard to muster up the mental energy to create a new career.

02:16:37.000 It's hard to accept the fact that you ain't as good as you used to be.

02:16:40.000 Very hard.

02:16:41.000 They don't accept it.

02:16:42.000 Very hard.

02:16:43.000 When you're young, you don't think you're ever going to be old.

02:16:47.000 Isn't that kind of wild at all?

02:16:48.000 Is Fedor still throwing?

02:16:49.000 Is he really?

02:16:50.000 Did he retire finally in the Ryan Bader fight when he got knocked out the second time?

02:16:55.000 I thought he retired, but then I saw him talking about trying to do a boxing match with Tyson or one of those guys.

02:17:02.000 That's what, man.

02:17:03.000 That dude in his prime was something different.

02:17:06.000 Fedor, for sure.

02:17:07.000 Oh, yeah.

02:17:07.000 We have to look at him in the context of what came before him.

02:17:10.000 And there was nobody...

02:17:11.000 Yeah, there was nothing like him before him, for sure.

02:17:13.000 The fact that he could both knock you out and hit submissions from everywhere.

02:17:17.000 From everywhere.

02:17:18.000 Off his back.

02:17:19.000 I mean...

02:17:20.000 When Randleman threw him, remember that?

02:17:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:17:23.000 Spiked him on his head and his expression never changed.

02:17:25.000 His variety of just being able to do so many different things.

02:17:29.000 So many different things.

02:17:30.000 So tough.

02:17:30.000 And his personality.

02:17:33.000 How are you starting a podcast?

02:17:34.000 There's something about that heavyweight when he could have fought at 205 forever.

02:17:39.000 He could have fought at 85. How about that?

02:17:41.000 What was he about 230 with that belly?

02:17:43.000 He always looked chubby.

02:17:44.000 Very active.

02:17:44.000 Accurate man.

02:17:45.000 His hand speed was pretty good.

02:17:49.000 Phenomenal.

02:17:49.000 Yeah, I was with Jeff Munson in Russia when he fought Jeff.

02:17:53.000 And man, I've never seen a beating like that.

02:17:55.000 And when Jeff was walking out, he really looked like he was going to his death.

02:18:00.000 I mean, it was bad.

02:18:02.000 That was Fedor when he was really Fedor.

02:18:06.000 Remember when he walked down Krokop?

02:18:10.000 Most of that fight was beating him up.

02:18:14.000 Okay, Ryan Bader, he said he suffered a TKO in the first round, retiring from MMA after the bout.

02:18:20.000 So he says, but that was real recent.

02:18:23.000 That was February.

02:18:24.000 Yeah, a year ago.

02:18:25.000 Yeah, I don't know.

02:18:27.000 I mean, I think you could talk some of those guys.

02:18:30.000 I just think they just don't like not doing it.

02:18:32.000 Yeah.

02:18:32.000 The thrill of getting...

02:18:34.000 It just gives them a purpose.

02:18:36.000 And as they get older, it gets more and more dangerous.

02:18:38.000 You get KO'd more often.

02:18:39.000 You would think Putin would make him the minister or something like he did with Corolla and stuff.

02:18:44.000 You know, give him a job.

02:18:45.000 The problem is when you compete that long...

02:18:48.000 I know the weirdest feeling for me, I don't know how it was for you or any of you guys, you all competed...

02:18:54.000 After the three month to the six month mark of not getting another thing coming up, it's a fucking weird feeling.

02:19:01.000 It's like, shouldn't I be calling Joe Silva now and getting another fucking fight?

02:19:04.000 What am I... Your purpose.

02:19:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:19:06.000 It felt weird.

02:19:07.000 It felt weird in the beginning.

02:19:08.000 For a lot of people, they just can't accept.

02:19:11.000 And then if they go and do other stuff and they don't find success in that other thing, then they get it all.

02:19:16.000 I could have just made $30,000 for a fight.

02:19:18.000 I could have done this.

02:19:19.000 I could have done that.

02:19:19.000 And then you're watching other dudes make all this money and you're thinking, damn, man.

02:19:23.000 Still hang with them, right?

02:19:25.000 I still got it and then you got to get a real job There's also the difference between someone who's absolutely obsessed at being the best in the world and someone who's thinking I could probably fight and make money Yeah, it's just not gonna train you're not gonna focus you're not gonna have the same intensity enthusiasm That's the same everything it's you're not gonna.

02:19:43.000 You're not gonna be the same guy So even if you used to be that guy when you were younger when you're 20 If you're 27 and you're just doing it for money and you think you're still that guy that you were when you were 20 when you were obsessed with it, you're going to get fucked up.

02:19:56.000 You're going to get fucked up.

02:19:57.000 Things can go south so quickly, too.

02:19:59.000 You could be on a tear.

02:20:00.000 Next thing you know, you're down two.

02:20:02.000 You're down three.

02:20:02.000 Now what do you got?

02:20:03.000 Look at Volkanovski.

02:20:05.000 Volkanovski before the rematch with Islam Makachev is in dispute as the best pound-for-pound fighter alive, right?

02:20:12.000 He almost won that fight, a very close fight.

02:20:16.000 Some people thought he could have won, some people thought Islam could have won, but either way, he went up, fought the best fighter in the 155-pound division, and...

02:20:24.000 Got to a standstill with him.

02:20:26.000 So at that point, you're looking at him, this motherfucker is one of the greatest of all time, probably the best pound-for-pound fighter alive, and then he gets KO'd in the rematch he takes with 10 days notice, which is crazy to take a fight like that with 10 days notice.

02:20:39.000 And then he gets KO'd in the fight with Toporia.

02:20:42.000 And in two fights over the course of, what was it, seven months, eight months?

02:20:46.000 Everything's different.

02:20:47.000 Do you think his team did him a disservice running him out there right after?

02:20:51.000 Like, that was too soon after Makachev, in my opinion.

02:20:53.000 And if they let him run out there again in three or four months, I think they're really doing him a disservice because the light's been turned off twice, and they've got to give him his brain time.

02:21:02.000 Yeah, but is that really his team, or that's just him?

02:21:05.000 I mean, I guess you do have the final say.

02:21:08.000 You do have the final say, and fighters always think they can do anything.

02:21:11.000 They always think they can do it.

02:21:13.000 They always think they can pull it off.

02:21:14.000 Because like you said, he pretty much, at that weight, might have been the best guy ever.

02:21:19.000 When Manny Pacquiao got knocked out by Marquez, Freddie Roach said, one year.

02:21:25.000 You only take a whole year off if you're not doing anything for a year.

02:21:29.000 It was one of the best one-punch knockouts in the history of the sport.

02:21:32.000 And Manny was piecing him up until that point, too.

02:21:35.000 And the consequences of the fight, you know?

02:21:37.000 Their third fight.

02:21:40.000 Hindsight's 20-20, though.

02:21:41.000 I mean, he could have went in there and fucking knocked him out.

02:21:43.000 I mean, what if he got that head kick?

02:21:45.000 I mean, he 100% could have, but you're compromised.

02:21:48.000 You're not going to be able to compete against a guy like Makachev with no camp.

02:21:53.000 You're not gonna be the same guy.

02:21:55.000 This is my argument like with Kamaru Usman and Hamzat.

02:21:58.000 And everyone's like, Hamzat beat Kamaru.

02:22:00.000 I'm like, sort of.

02:22:02.000 Sort of.

02:22:03.000 Kind of.

02:22:03.000 Ten days notice.

02:22:05.000 Kamaru wins.

02:22:06.000 Yeah, because Kamaru was winning in the third.

02:22:08.000 Also, Kamaru didn't have time to prepare.

02:22:10.000 He doesn't know, he can't trust his gas tank.

02:22:13.000 Fighting up a weight class.

02:22:14.000 Fighting up a weight class, but Hamzat was really legit 170 if he could make the weight.

02:22:18.000 At 170, Hamzat's the most terrifying guy on the planet.

02:22:21.000 Right.

02:22:22.000 Because he's fucking horrific.

02:22:23.000 He knocks you out with one punch.

02:22:25.000 He's got crazy...

02:22:26.000 Crazy speed.

02:22:27.000 Yeah, I was about to say his speed is what is underrated.

02:22:29.000 Could you trust him to make the weight though?

02:22:31.000 No.

02:22:32.000 Can't trust him to do shit.

02:22:33.000 Can't trust him to show up.

02:22:34.000 The thing about that one weight cut that he missed by eight pounds though, that's New York.

02:22:38.000 And they stopped him from cutting the weight.

02:22:40.000 You know how they do it.

02:22:41.000 Fucking New Yorkers.

02:22:43.000 No, some athletic commissions, they intervene a little.

02:22:48.000 They get it and they go, oh, he's not going to make it.

02:22:50.000 Listen, they can make it.

02:22:52.000 It ain't gonna look good, but they can make it.

02:22:54.000 How do they get their two cents in?

02:22:56.000 They did that with, that's why Al had to fight Khabib, right?

02:23:01.000 Because they didn't think Max Holloway was cutting, they didn't want him cutting any more weight.

02:23:04.000 Because Max was cutting the weight, and they were like, uh-uh.

02:23:07.000 So 24 hours notice, Al steps in.

02:23:09.000 And he stepped in like a stud.

02:23:12.000 Raging ally.

02:23:13.000 He didn't take him down after the second round.

02:23:16.000 He was supposed to fight Paul Felder.

02:23:17.000 A totally different fight.

02:23:18.000 For three rounds.

02:23:20.000 Kickboxer.

02:23:21.000 He got taken down right away.

02:23:22.000 He went with him five rounds and he was in there.

02:23:25.000 He was in there and that was without a camp for that.

02:23:28.000 He was fighting a three round.

02:23:30.000 He wasn't even getting ready for five rounds.

02:23:32.000 Personally, that fight to me I thought kind of exposed Khabib a little bit.

02:23:36.000 Obviously he's undefeated and all that stuff, but What if he would ever got in there with a dude that had a skill set like George?

02:23:44.000 Who could strike, who could defend and take down, who could wrestle with him.

02:23:48.000 He did.

02:23:49.000 He fought Justin Gaethje.

02:23:50.000 Justin Gaethje's a dangerous motherfucker.

02:23:53.000 I don't think his wrestling's the same.

02:23:55.000 No, he doesn't use his wrestling.

02:23:57.000 He doesn't use it to attack.

02:23:58.000 But he's hard to take down.

02:24:00.000 Justin's very hard to take down.

02:24:01.000 And Khabib dominated him in grappling exchanges.

02:24:04.000 The thing about George is he's just much bigger.

02:24:06.000 George is a big guy.

02:24:07.000 George fought 85, beat Michael Bisping, right?

02:24:10.000 I know he's not really an 85-er, but George at 170 is a big, strong 170. Oh, 100%.

02:24:15.000 And it could be the same kind of deal where, like, when Izzy went up and fought Jan Bohovic.

02:24:22.000 It's like you got the 185 pound champ who's a virtuoso, but he's fighting a guy that's just a lot bigger than him.

02:24:27.000 Yeah.

02:24:28.000 He's a lot bigger.

02:24:28.000 If you're not going to have the time to prepare and get your body into a position where you're in somewhat similar range and far of strength.

02:24:38.000 You know, if you're in these crazy grappling exchanges.

02:24:40.000 That's what I say.

02:24:40.000 Plus, Izzy just sucks on the ground.

02:24:43.000 He's not the best on the ground.

02:24:44.000 Yeah.

02:24:44.000 It's a fact.

02:24:45.000 Yeah.

02:24:45.000 Yeah, he's not.

02:24:46.000 You know, I mean, which was surprising the first fight with Pajeda when he gets him down.

02:24:52.000 You know, crazy, and he had his back.

02:24:54.000 Yeah, I mean, he could have did a lot more with that.

02:24:57.000 He could have did a lot more with that, yeah.

02:24:59.000 Yeah, Alex's level on the ground is not good either.

02:25:02.000 You know, but the thing is, he's getting better at defending.

02:25:05.000 He's getting a lot better at defending once he gets taken down, and when he's on his feet, he's just a motherfucker to deal with.

02:25:09.000 Especially as you slow down a little bit.

02:25:11.000 I don't think either of those guys are going for a takedown, to be honest.

02:25:14.000 Jamal Hill or Alex?

02:25:15.000 But Jamal would be more capable of taking Alex down and doing well on the ground.

02:25:20.000 Jamal's not lost on the ground.

02:25:22.000 He just is such a good striker.

02:25:24.000 He prefers to stand up.

02:25:25.000 It's a fucking fun fight.

02:25:26.000 I know.

02:25:27.000 It's a fun fight.

02:25:28.000 I'm gonna have goose bumps before that one starts.

02:25:31.000 Here we go!

02:25:36.000 That's why I don't understand why people were upset about that being the main event.

02:25:39.000 Oh my god, they're crazy.

02:25:41.000 That's just dorks.

02:25:42.000 What the hell did you expect?

02:25:44.000 What did you want?

02:25:46.000 Where's Connor?

02:25:48.000 Do you guys think Connor will fight this year?

02:25:51.000 I think so.

02:25:52.000 They keep saying he's going to fight.

02:25:54.000 They keep saying he's going to fight.

02:25:55.000 Keep pushing it back, pushing it back.

02:25:57.000 I think so.

02:25:57.000 I think after doing that movie and how much he had to put into that movie, I think he's going to want to come back to do something like fighting, something that he loves to do.

02:26:08.000 There's the movie curse.

02:26:11.000 The Tommy Morrison curse.

02:26:12.000 When he became a movie star.

02:26:14.000 I remember Tommy Morrison was like the man in boxing.

02:26:17.000 He was the Duke.

02:26:19.000 He was John Wayne's grandson.

02:26:21.000 Your nephew?

02:26:22.000 I think he was a nephew or something.

02:26:23.000 Nephew or some shit?

02:26:24.000 So they would call him the Duke, you know, and everybody thought he was going to be the man.

02:26:27.000 And then he did Rocky, and then after Rocky he fought Ray motherfucking Mercer.

02:26:31.000 That was a horrible knockout.

02:26:33.000 That might be one of the worst knockouts in the history of the worst knockouts.

02:26:36.000 And he's out already, and Mercer's keeping him up with punches.

02:26:41.000 He's tangled up in the ropes and Mercer's just teeing off with bombs.

02:26:47.000 Not to mention Ray Mercer knocked out Tim Sylvia.

02:26:51.000 That was when they had agreed to beat boxing only and Sylvia opened up with an inside leg kick and Ray Mercer looks up.

02:27:01.000 He was like 46 at the time.

02:27:05.000 What about Mercer when he fought in Japan?

02:27:08.000 Who head kicked him and he just said...

02:27:14.000 I'm trying to remember who that was.

02:27:22.000 Ray Mercer came to the American Top Team when I was with them.

02:27:25.000 He came there a few times just to kind of see what MMA was like, yeah.

02:27:28.000 There was a few boxers that gave it a go in kickboxing.

02:27:31.000 Both Vince Phillips.

02:27:33.000 Vince Phillips fought Masato.

02:27:35.000 He got his legs kicked, and he was like, nah, I'm straight.

02:27:39.000 No, they fought a while.

02:27:40.000 He fought a while.

02:27:41.000 He got really lit up in the legs, though.

02:27:43.000 Real bad.

02:27:44.000 Masato was so good, too.

02:27:48.000 Butterbean versus Genki Sudo.

02:27:51.000 Oh yeah, Genki Tsudo, heel hooked him, right?

02:27:54.000 Genki Tsudo was a stud.

02:27:55.000 Oh fuck yeah, he was.

02:27:56.000 He was a good guy.

02:27:57.000 He was great.

02:27:58.000 You had Abu Dhabi, didn't you?

02:28:00.000 No, no.

02:28:00.000 I had a training session with all the Japanese guys that were going to Abu Dhabi one year.

02:28:05.000 I was in Japan with Henzo, and Henzo was fighting in Pride, so he wanted me and Ricardo Ameda to go with everybody, all the Japanese guys.

02:28:14.000 They were filming it.

02:28:15.000 They were going over...

02:28:21.000 They were all getting together, all the Abu Dhabi team together, grappling session.

02:28:24.000 They were gonna film stuff.

02:28:25.000 So he goes, I want you and Hikaru to go down there.

02:28:27.000 It'll be good for you.

02:28:29.000 And meanwhile, it was my first time in Japan.

02:28:30.000 I'm like, I don't wanna do shit, man.

02:28:32.000 I just wanna fucking...

02:28:33.000 But I'm like, all right, fine.

02:28:34.000 You know, Henzo makes us, you know, makes you go.

02:28:35.000 So the day before, Heian did something to fucking Ricardo's legs, so Ricardo couldn't do nothing.

02:28:40.000 Heian's a wild man.

02:28:41.000 So I had to go down.

02:28:42.000 So it was just me, you know.

02:28:43.000 So they were with me, but...

02:28:44.000 So I went with Genki Sudo at one point.

02:28:46.000 I went with a lot of the guys.

02:28:47.000 And it was like four-minute matches from, like, the feet.

02:28:50.000 So at one point, like, I jumped guard, and he went down, he stood up, and he started going around in a circle, like, ah!

02:28:57.000 And they're all going, oh!

02:28:58.000 And I'm like, ah!

02:29:02.000 I open up and he goes for a leg lock.

02:29:05.000 I got out of it, but it's fucking weird.

02:29:08.000 But they all did the voice.

02:29:10.000 He was wild.

02:29:11.000 He was a wild guy, man.

02:29:14.000 Genki was supposed to be my first fight in the UFC. Oh, Remy Bonjowski.

02:29:19.000 Oh, he's not used to that.

02:29:22.000 Yeah, he got head kicked.

02:29:23.000 He said, that's alright.

02:29:24.000 Well, Rami Bonjoski was amazing.

02:29:26.000 Yeah, he was.

02:29:26.000 And he had such an interesting style.

02:29:29.000 Crazy knees.

02:29:30.000 Yeah.

02:29:31.000 Hey, man, we just lost Rob Kamen.

02:29:33.000 That sucks.

02:29:34.000 That really sucks.

02:29:34.000 That was hard.

02:29:35.000 Nice guy.

02:29:36.000 I worked out with that guy a lot.

02:29:38.000 I trained with that guy for like an eight-week period.

02:29:42.000 It was amazing.

02:29:43.000 He was awesome.

02:29:44.000 Those Dutch guys are cool, man.

02:29:45.000 He's the coolest.

02:29:46.000 He was the coolest.

02:29:47.000 He's super cool.

02:29:48.000 I did a joint seminar with him in Canada one time.

02:29:51.000 He's just a cool guy.

02:29:53.000 Head kick.

02:29:54.000 Check, please.

02:29:56.000 Thank you.

02:29:56.000 I'm done.

02:29:56.000 I don't enjoy that.

02:29:59.000 Franz Botha, he did well in kickboxing, remember?

02:30:02.000 Yeah, he figured out how to do it a little bit and started fucking people up.

02:30:07.000 Well, his hands were so good.

02:30:09.000 If you could have elite hands and you could figure out the kicks, you had a little bit of an advantage because some of those guys, their boxing was not the best.

02:30:18.000 Right, right, right.

02:30:18.000 If you could just stay in close.

02:30:21.000 Did Genki Sudo get Raymond Decker also?

02:30:24.000 Raymond Decker got submitted.

02:30:25.000 I think he did.

02:30:26.000 I remember him because I think Genki got hit.

02:30:29.000 I think that was his only MMA fight.

02:30:30.000 I remember that guy because Longo used to always point that guy out and be like, this fucking guy!

02:30:36.000 Decker's in his prime as the wildest highlight reel of any fighter ever.

02:30:40.000 He was an assassin.

02:30:41.000 He had his ankle fused.

02:30:43.000 His ankle had broken so many times that his doctor, he couldn't bend his ankle.

02:30:47.000 And his doctor was like, look, if you keep kicking with that thing, we might have to remove it.

02:30:51.000 Fuck you, wrap it back up, kicking people too.

02:30:55.000 He just, once we got in there, he just smashed.

02:30:57.000 He kicked through everything.

02:30:58.000 He kicked through your arms, he kicked through your elbows.

02:31:01.000 Ramon Deckers was a fucking machine, man, and he was a small guy, so he's fighting the elite ties that were all his weight and just piecing people up.

02:31:12.000 He was mean, too.

02:31:13.000 Oh, he was ferocious.

02:31:15.000 Put on a Ramon Decker highlight.

02:31:17.000 He was ferocious, man.

02:31:20.000 He was the combinations.

02:31:21.000 He was the first guy that perfected the duchy.

02:31:25.000 Ernesto Hoos used to always do that left hook to the body, right low kick.

02:31:28.000 He would hit that thing.

02:31:29.000 It was a fucking thing of beauty.

02:31:31.000 And he was just such a fucking killer.

02:31:33.000 Such a killer.

02:31:35.000 Like, just mean.

02:31:36.000 Everything was hard.

02:31:38.000 Everything was hard.

02:31:39.000 Every fucking strike was full power.

02:31:41.000 And this motherfucker just put people away.

02:31:44.000 It's a little bit like Nate Landar.

02:31:45.000 A little bit, bro.

02:31:49.000 Ramon Deckers was the fucking man.

02:31:51.000 And his hands were so powerful, too.

02:31:54.000 The thing that he had above a lot of those guys was his punching power in his hands.

02:31:58.000 Oh, man.

02:32:00.000 Bro.

02:32:00.000 He's trying to hit him on the way down.

02:32:02.000 As he's on the way down, he's still trying to tee off on him.

02:32:04.000 Ramon Deckers, bro.

02:32:06.000 Come on, son.

02:32:07.000 Let's see his hand in MMA after this.

02:32:09.000 He's a guy, he died young, too.

02:32:11.000 That's what I love about Jiu-Jitsu.

02:32:12.000 He died young, too.

02:32:13.000 He died.

02:32:13.000 Did he?

02:32:14.000 Yeah, I think he died.

02:32:15.000 He had like a heart attack while he's riding his bike or something crazy.

02:32:18.000 What the fuck is that?

02:32:18.000 He probably rode his bike like a fucking savage.

02:32:21.000 Yeah, he probably did everything hard.

02:32:23.000 He had a fucking heart attack.

02:32:25.000 He was a monster, man.

02:32:26.000 Imagine being stuck in the fucking ring with this guy.

02:32:29.000 I mean, and back then, there was nobody like him.

02:32:32.000 I mean, he was just fucking everybody up, and he was so mean.

02:32:34.000 Holding motherfuckers up and knee him.

02:32:35.000 Yeah, holding him up to knee him.

02:32:37.000 Look at this.

02:32:38.000 Kicking him through the ropes.

02:32:40.000 Like, you gotta stop him.

02:32:41.000 You gotta pull him off you.

02:32:42.000 Look, dude's going down, head kicks him.

02:32:45.000 Bro, Ramon Deckers.

02:32:48.000 Bring on Genki!

02:32:49.000 He would do that.

02:32:50.000 That was the thing that Rob Cameron was great at too.

02:32:52.000 The low kick across the front of the legs.

02:32:55.000 He would step off to the left and throw that right low kick across both thighs.

02:33:00.000 Ooh!

02:33:02.000 That's a thudder.

02:33:04.000 Bro, Ramon Deckers.

02:33:06.000 I mean, what a highlight reel.

02:33:07.000 Whose fucking highlight reel is everybody getting smoked?

02:33:11.000 It's all everyone just getting pieced up.

02:33:14.000 And the power that motherfucker had with his kicks, with his punches, everything.

02:33:18.000 He just destroyed people.

02:33:19.000 But he destroyed his own body, too.

02:33:21.000 I mean, his ankle was completely fucked by the time his career was over.

02:33:25.000 I wonder if Steven Seagal showed him that...

02:33:27.000 Bro, the Brazilians love Steven Seagal.

02:33:32.000 What is he, pay those guys to hang out with them?

02:33:35.000 No, I think Anderson had a great sense of humor.

02:33:38.000 And I think Anderson loved those movies when he was a kid.

02:33:41.000 When I met Chuck Norris, I was like, oh my god, I'm meeting Chuck Norris.

02:33:46.000 I hug Chuck Norris.

02:33:47.000 Wow!

02:33:48.000 So for Anderson, it might have been like...

02:33:51.000 Same thing.

02:33:52.000 The fucking...

02:33:53.000 The first one?

02:33:54.000 What was the first one?

02:33:55.000 Above the Law?

02:33:56.000 Above the Law.

02:33:56.000 Bro, that was a good movie!

02:33:58.000 Everybody liked that one.

02:33:59.000 That was a good fucking movie!

02:34:00.000 Yeah, everybody liked that one.

02:34:01.000 That movie was legit!

02:34:02.000 So if Anderson fell in love with that Steven Segar, it would make sense.

02:34:06.000 What about Alpha Justice?

02:34:08.000 Alpha Justice wasn't bad.

02:34:09.000 Anybody seen Bobby Lupo?

02:34:11.000 It was horrible.

02:34:12.000 It was fucking horrible.

02:34:12.000 That's the one where he was in Brooklyn.

02:34:14.000 He pretended to be a gangster.

02:34:16.000 He wanted to be Italian in the worst one.

02:34:18.000 So bad.

02:34:19.000 Well, that was when the mob was allegedly sponsoring his movies.

02:34:22.000 He had like a mix-up with the mob.

02:34:24.000 The mom was involved in financing his move.

02:34:27.000 He's like, Stephen, I don't think you understand here.

02:34:28.000 He should do something.

02:34:30.000 Showing him how to grab him by the nose.

02:34:31.000 This is what you do.

02:34:32.000 Just grab him by the nose.

02:34:33.000 Imagine telling Anderson Silva, when you get in the clinch, just grab him by the nose.

02:34:36.000 Watch this.

02:34:37.000 Take him down.

02:34:38.000 Grab his nose.

02:34:39.000 What the fuck are you saying?

02:34:41.000 He's giving him coaching.

02:34:42.000 It's adorable.

02:34:43.000 And Anderson's listening.

02:34:45.000 But the thing is, like, Anderson might be able to take something from some of this wacky shit.

02:34:50.000 That's true.

02:34:50.000 Because he's a creative, right?

02:34:52.000 Remember when he hit Tony Fricklin with that step-in upward elbow?

02:34:55.000 Did you know that he had to train that away from his coaches?

02:34:58.000 Because his coaches told him to stop drilling that.

02:35:01.000 You're not going to use that.

02:35:02.000 Really?

02:35:02.000 And so he made his wife hold pillows.

02:35:05.000 So his wife would hold pillows.

02:35:06.000 He would step in and throw that elbow.

02:35:08.000 No kidding.

02:35:09.000 Yeah.

02:35:09.000 Bang!

02:35:10.000 And then he did it on purpose just to show them.

02:35:12.000 Fuck you.

02:35:13.000 Yeah.

02:35:14.000 I can do this shit.

02:35:15.000 And this was when Anderson, before he came over to the UFC, look at this.

02:35:19.000 Boom!

02:35:20.000 Is that when he got his head split?

02:35:22.000 Bro, come on.

02:35:23.000 No, he just KO'd him.

02:35:25.000 Jesus.

02:35:25.000 But bro, Anderson in those days when he was fighting in England, that's when he became Anderson.

02:35:30.000 So when he came over to the UFC to fight Chris Lieben, I was like, everybody hang on.

02:35:37.000 Yeah, I remember that.

02:35:38.000 Because this is the motherfucker.

02:35:40.000 Me and Dean Thomas fought on that card.

02:35:42.000 It was the tough four finale.

02:35:47.000 Chris Liebman didn't get close to him, man.

02:35:49.000 Bro, that was a clinic.

02:35:51.000 That and Rich Franklin.

02:35:52.000 Yeah, both Rich Franklin fights.

02:35:54.000 Brutalized those guys.

02:35:55.000 But that was when Anderson became Anderson.

02:35:58.000 You know, like when we fought Rio Chonan in pride and Rio Chonan flying scissored him into a heel hook.

02:36:04.000 I remember that too.

02:36:05.000 He wasn't as good back then.

02:36:06.000 Right.

02:36:06.000 There was something missing.

02:36:08.000 And then he goes to England and then he finds himself.

02:36:11.000 And then he starts fucking everybody up.

02:36:13.000 Jorge Rivera.

02:36:14.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:36:15.000 Remember when Jorge stood right in front of him, let him punch him in the face?

02:36:18.000 Mm-hmm.

02:36:18.000 I mean, it's like Anderson was on another planet.

02:36:20.000 I know.

02:36:21.000 He was on another planet back then.

02:36:22.000 Lee Murray?

02:36:23.000 Yeah, Lee Murray.

02:36:24.000 Lee Murray peaced up Lee Murray.

02:36:26.000 He was dangerous back then.

02:36:27.000 Dangerous.

02:36:27.000 I was at the club that night that Lee Murray got into that fight with Tito.

02:36:31.000 You were really?

02:36:31.000 You were there?

02:36:32.000 I was.

02:36:32.000 Did you see it?

02:36:33.000 It was in London.

02:36:33.000 Did you see the fight?

02:36:34.000 It was in London or Manchester?

02:36:35.000 No, it was that.

02:36:37.000 Where the fuck was that?

02:36:38.000 It was London, it was London.

02:36:39.000 Cause he beat up Tito and Tito said he had shoes on.

02:36:41.000 I remember he came up to me.

02:36:42.000 Slippery shoes.

02:36:42.000 Yeah, slippery shoes.

02:36:43.000 First of all, when you look in the dude's eyes, you know, cause he was talking to me in the club, He's like, yeah, you like the jiu-jitsu?

02:36:49.000 I can't do the accent.

02:36:50.000 But he's like, yeah.

02:36:52.000 He's asking me about my...

02:36:53.000 He says, yeah, you like the jiu-jitsu?

02:36:55.000 I like to knock people out.

02:36:56.000 I thought he was just like a crazy knucklehead.

02:36:57.000 So I was just talking to him like, ah, yeah, cool.

02:36:59.000 And then when I left later that night, I heard he fucking knocked out Tito.

02:37:03.000 Dropped Tito.

02:37:03.000 He was a real gangster.

02:37:06.000 Obviously.

02:37:06.000 A real gangster.

02:37:09.000 Imagine a guy that's that good at MMA and fighting is actually a real bank robber.

02:37:15.000 I know.

02:37:16.000 Because he fucked a lot of people up, man.

02:37:18.000 They did like a little mini documentary on that.

02:37:22.000 I don't know if it's Showtime or HBO or who it was.

02:37:25.000 Could have been on Netflix.

02:37:27.000 Wasn't Guy Ritchie going to do a film about that heist?

02:37:30.000 That's what I'm wondering.

02:37:32.000 You would think by now he would have.

02:37:33.000 That heist is crazy.

02:37:35.000 Yeah, they should have did that movie.

02:37:36.000 A bunch of fighters put on tactical gear and robbed $50 million.

02:37:41.000 Had to love his mural in his house in Morocco.

02:37:44.000 He had a mural in his house of submitting Corny Rivera.

02:37:49.000 Oh.

02:37:49.000 That's it.

02:37:50.000 Catch and Lightning.

02:37:51.000 It was last year?

02:37:52.000 It came out?

02:37:53.000 It just came out.

02:37:53.000 Oh, it's a miniseries.

02:37:55.000 Not just, but a year or so ago.

02:37:56.000 Oh, so someone plays him?

02:37:58.000 Was this Guy Ritchie?

02:38:00.000 I don't know.

02:38:00.000 Oh, it says Guy Ritchie's making a movie.

02:38:02.000 No, no.

02:38:03.000 It says he's not?

02:38:04.000 Does it say he is?

02:38:05.000 It does not say he is.

02:38:07.000 It says he's not?

02:38:07.000 Yeah, this Catch and Lightning thing is more like documentary.

02:38:09.000 Guy Ritchie's got to do it.

02:38:11.000 It's like his coach and people like that.

02:38:13.000 People that were around when the heist happened and all that stuff.

02:38:17.000 So, but if you click on it, it said Guy Ritchie's making a movie that someone's responding to that, but is that just rumor?

02:38:21.000 Yes, someone said you said something about it.

02:38:23.000 I'm probably lying again.

02:38:25.000 I'm probably spreading more misinformation.

02:38:28.000 God damn it.

02:38:28.000 It would probably say Guy Ritchie's name right on it.

02:38:31.000 Oh, so this is a documentary?

02:38:33.000 Documentary.

02:38:33.000 Oh, it's a documentary series.

02:38:35.000 Oh, well, that's got to be really interesting.

02:38:37.000 That's what I want to see.

02:38:38.000 I want to see the real thing.

02:38:39.000 This is actually good.

02:38:40.000 Oh, beautiful.

02:38:41.000 So that was out April 7th?

02:38:42.000 Yeah, check it out.

02:38:43.000 It's out right now?

02:38:44.000 Last year.

02:38:44.000 Oh, okay.

02:38:45.000 And it's called Catching Lightning.

02:38:47.000 Yep.

02:38:48.000 So I will check that out for sure.

02:38:49.000 It's a crazy story, man.

02:38:51.000 But he was a real elite fighter.

02:38:54.000 He was a dangerous knockout striker.

02:38:56.000 Yeah.

02:38:57.000 That's on Showtime?

02:38:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:39:00.000 My wife is the one that showed me that it was on.

02:39:04.000 We watched it.

02:39:04.000 It was good.

02:39:06.000 I saw him fight live, well obviously in the Jorge Rivera fight, but I saw him fight live against Amir Ranavardi.

02:39:14.000 Bro, he was a fucking killer, dude.

02:39:17.000 He was a killer.

02:39:18.000 Lee Murray was a dangerous dude.

02:39:19.000 Yeah, he could fight.

02:39:20.000 He could box.

02:39:21.000 Dangerous.

02:39:21.000 Yeah, good hands.

02:39:22.000 Dangerous puncher.

02:39:25.000 I mean, shit, that was when I seen him at that club.

02:39:27.000 I mean, when was that?

02:39:28.000 Early 2000s?

02:39:29.000 And I seen something in his eyes.

02:39:30.000 Do you remember when he got stabbed in a knife fight and then was in the hospital almost dead and then hit and pad six weeks later?

02:39:39.000 Oh my god.

02:39:40.000 Yeah, show Lee Murray.

02:39:41.000 I think it's like, I legitimately think it was like six to eight weeks after getting stabbed, if I remember it correctly.

02:39:47.000 He was hitting mitts.

02:39:49.000 And I was like, this is the most insane thing I've ever seen in my life.

02:39:52.000 See if you can find that.

02:39:53.000 Because it was a video that got released.

02:39:54.000 It wasn't like that he was tearing the mitts up, but he was hitting mitts after getting stabbed in the heart.

02:39:59.000 In the heart?

02:40:00.000 In the heart!

02:40:01.000 Bro, I mean he got stabbed a bunch of times.

02:40:04.000 That's crazy.

02:40:04.000 He should have died and lived and then next thing he's hitting mitts and then after that he's planning a bank robbery.

02:40:14.000 You'll see on the documentary like they kind of show they kind of say he's not you know he ain't the mastermind they like set him up to be that guy.

02:40:22.000 Oh the master I wouldn't think he's the mastermind of the organization.

02:40:25.000 Just the fact that he was there.

02:40:27.000 Well that's the kind of guy if you want to rob a bank.

02:40:30.000 They were in on it it's I mean it's pretty crazy and it wasn't it the largest amount of money like in stolen in British history or something like that.

02:40:37.000 How did they catch him?

02:40:38.000 How do they know who did it?

02:40:40.000 I mean, I'm going to ruin the documentary for you.

02:40:43.000 Okay, don't, don't.

02:40:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:40:44.000 Is there a video of him hitting the pads after being stabbed in the heart?

02:40:48.000 See if you can find that.

02:40:49.000 It's so crazy.

02:40:50.000 It was on YouTube, I believe.

02:40:51.000 Does this thing dissolve or am I spitting this thing out?

02:40:53.000 You spit it out.

02:40:54.000 Oh, okay.

02:40:54.000 I didn't know.

02:40:56.000 I'm chewing it like a gum.

02:40:58.000 Yeah, it gets a little chewy.

02:40:59.000 Can I have another one?

02:41:00.000 Yeah.

02:41:00.000 Get in there, sir.

02:41:01.000 Thank you.

02:41:02.000 Junkie.

02:41:03.000 Now, where's that Cat Williams shit?

02:41:04.000 Let's go!

02:41:05.000 Uh-oh.

02:41:06.000 No, no, I'm only kidding.

02:41:06.000 My kids are watching.

02:41:07.000 Hold on.

02:41:09.000 Steve Thomas.

02:41:10.000 Dude.

02:41:11.000 Let's fucking go.

02:41:12.000 Cat Williams stuff is not for amateurs.

02:41:14.000 Give me a zin.

02:41:15.000 Give me a zin.

02:41:15.000 Thank you, bro.

02:41:17.000 Let's go.

02:41:18.000 Ready to revive for round three.

02:41:21.000 Do you remember when Panama Lewis gave Aaron Pryor the green one?

02:41:28.000 Not that one, yeah, the other one I mixed, yeah.

02:41:30.000 And then he came out, woo!

02:41:32.000 Do you guys remember when Greg Hardy wanted somebody to give him a fucking...

02:41:36.000 Never mind.

02:41:37.000 What?

02:41:38.000 Greg Hardy the wrestler?

02:41:39.000 No.

02:41:41.000 Everybody forgot I shouldn't bring it up.

02:41:45.000 Greg Hardy was fighting and he goes, man, I need my inhaler.

02:41:50.000 So his corner guy, he must have been new to the UFC. He goes, alright.

02:41:54.000 It was Dean Thompson.

02:41:56.000 Dean, I'm sorry.

02:41:58.000 Oh, you were fighting Greg Hardy?

02:42:00.000 No.

02:42:00.000 Greg Hardy was fighting, Dean was cornering him.

02:42:03.000 Oh, Greg Hardy, the heavyweight guy.

02:42:06.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

02:42:09.000 Usada approved.

02:42:10.000 I asked the dude and he said yeah.

02:42:12.000 Is that not Usada approved?

02:42:13.000 Who handed it to him?

02:42:14.000 I handed it to him.

02:42:15.000 Is that not Usada approved?

02:42:17.000 No, it's not.

02:42:17.000 Oh, boy, and they did it on camera?

02:42:19.000 In reality, if a dude fights with asthma, you would think he'd be cleared to use his fucking inhaler.

02:42:24.000 Right, but what does the inhaler do for you?

02:42:25.000 It opens your lungs up.

02:42:26.000 Would it be beneficial for someone who doesn't have asthma?

02:42:29.000 Yeah, 100%.

02:42:30.000 Yeah, then you can't use it.

02:42:31.000 No, but he has asthma, and he got cleared to have it in the back.

02:42:35.000 And he thought he was able to have it in the corner.

02:42:38.000 So when I asked the guy, I said, can he have this?

02:42:41.000 He said, yeah, I think so.

02:42:42.000 So I gave it to him.

02:42:44.000 Well, sorry to bring that up.

02:42:47.000 I mean, Dana threw me under the bus.

02:42:50.000 He was like, yo, that damn Dean Thomas, how could he do this?

02:42:55.000 You know, it's complicated, too, because the rules keep shifting a little bit.

02:43:00.000 Right.

02:43:01.000 I mean, state to state, it's 100% different.

02:43:03.000 But the testosterone rule was the craziest rule.

02:43:07.000 Of all the rules that have ever existed in the UFC, when they started giving people testosterone, that was the craziest rule.

02:43:10.000 I know, that was the craziest rule.

02:43:12.000 That was the craziest rule.

02:43:12.000 There were Wild West days, where people could take whatever they wanted.

02:43:16.000 What years was that, where they were just allowed the guys...

02:43:19.000 That's a good question.

02:43:20.000 I want to say it's like 2010-ish.

02:43:23.000 What year did Luke Rockhold fight Vitor?

02:43:28.000 Vitor came back a different man.

02:43:30.000 A different man.

02:43:32.000 Luke different.

02:43:33.000 Way different.

02:43:33.000 That was when he spin kicked Luke in the head.

02:43:36.000 Remember?

02:43:37.000 Luke Rockhold said, I was looking at this guy at the weigh-ins going, what the fuck is he on?

02:43:41.000 Because Vitor is just like a fucking silverback.

02:43:44.000 Just...

02:43:45.000 I mean, dude, when he first came on the scene, he was like 220, had traps up to his ears.

02:43:50.000 When he first came on the scene, I was there for his first fight, UFC 12, in Dothan, Alabama.

02:43:55.000 And no one knew what to expect, because everybody thought that Vitor was a Carlson Gracie black belt, so they expected him to just be a jiu-jitsu guy.

02:44:03.000 But he came out with them Brazilian fucking model shorts on, and the MMA gloves, and just tuned up Trey Taylor.

02:44:10.000 They called Victor Grappler.

02:44:12.000 Victor Gracie.

02:44:13.000 Yeah, that's what we called him back then.

02:44:14.000 We called him Victor.

02:44:15.000 I was at his school when he was training back then.

02:44:17.000 I was at Carlson Gracie's in 97. That's part of how the reason I got this gig.

02:44:22.000 You know, it's funny.

02:44:23.000 I interviewed him once and he mentioned that you used to train there.

02:44:27.000 Yeah, I trained there in 96. That's when I started training there.

02:44:31.000 Dude, when he killed Vanderlei in that fight.

02:44:34.000 Oh, yeah, man.

02:44:34.000 Vanderlei was a savage, too, back then.

02:44:36.000 Just people didn't know yet.

02:44:38.000 He came out with wrestling shoes on.

02:44:39.000 Yeah.

02:44:40.000 He came out, like, remember, he was, like, almost like he was freezing him.

02:44:43.000 He was in, like, Vanderlei was in waiting.

02:44:45.000 Avaro Romano, you know, the guy at Gymnastica Natural.

02:44:48.000 Yep, yep, yep.

02:44:48.000 He used to be, like, I guess, part of the Carlson team.

02:44:52.000 And he said, like, Vanderlei was pissed because he thought Vitor was in the back trying to freeze him out.

02:44:59.000 And what Alvaro said was that Veeder was petrified, said he was in the back, was crying, and they had to make him go out there.

02:45:07.000 And then he went out there and machine-gunned Vanderlei across the cage like so crazy.

02:45:12.000 Vanderlei was terrifying.

02:45:14.000 I heard that story, right?

02:45:15.000 So I had to, as a...

02:45:17.000 A journalist with integrity.

02:45:19.000 I had to ask him about it.

02:45:20.000 He said that he had stomach problems.

02:45:22.000 Is he going to admit?

02:45:24.000 That's the same thing I thought.

02:45:26.000 That's the same thing I thought.

02:45:27.000 But I had to ask him about it.

02:45:29.000 2013. So it was 2013. So it was 11 years ago.

02:45:32.000 They were juicing.

02:45:33.000 Yeah.

02:45:34.000 That's crazy.

02:45:37.000 We know something happened because he made an excuse.

02:45:40.000 He had stomach problems.

02:45:42.000 How many years they had TRT for?

02:45:45.000 When did it start?

02:45:47.000 That's a question for Nowitzki, right?

02:45:49.000 Dan Henderson was on that shit, right?

02:45:51.000 Yeah, but not for a while.

02:45:53.000 He was on later.

02:45:55.000 He was on a low dose of it.

02:45:57.000 When he got off it, he's one of the few guys that was basically the same guy when he got off of it.

02:46:02.000 He couldn't train as hard, I think he said, but he knocked out Hector Lombard after he got off of it.

02:46:07.000 That was post-TRT days.

02:46:08.000 He was still fucking people up.

02:46:10.000 Remember when he knocked out Fedor?

02:46:12.000 Oh yeah!

02:46:13.000 Dan Henderson knocked out Fedor.

02:46:14.000 He ducked under, he snuck out the back door and hit him with an uppercut.

02:46:18.000 Boom!

02:46:19.000 Because Fedor had him rocked and he went down.

02:46:21.000 He was on his back and Fedor jumped on him.

02:46:23.000 He grabbed ahold of a single, snuck out the back.

02:46:26.000 Boom!

02:46:27.000 And then just hammered him with that fucking Hendo right hand.

02:46:31.000 The Bisping knockout was the craziest.

02:46:34.000 The craziest.

02:46:35.000 The craziest.

02:46:36.000 The flying punch, and that became his logo.

02:46:39.000 I know.

02:46:39.000 After watching Tuff and Bisping, you know, he's a...

02:46:43.000 Look, I like Michael Bisping, and he's an instigating motherfucker, and he was on him the whole time, so you almost were...

02:46:50.000 You know, at that point that Dan got his revenge.

02:46:53.000 Dan's an animal.

02:46:54.000 But now I work with Bisping, man.

02:46:55.000 I like him a lot, man.

02:46:57.000 I love him.

02:46:57.000 And I hate watching that clip, man, because I like him so much.

02:47:00.000 Well, you don't want to see your boy get hurt.

02:47:02.000 It's rough watching a guy get hammered in the face after he's out cold, too.

02:47:05.000 That's a rough one.

02:47:06.000 Yeah, that guy's...

02:47:06.000 I mean, I liked Bisping when he was on tough.

02:47:09.000 Like, when he came up, he was obviously a talented guy and wound up becoming a world champ.

02:47:14.000 He's a solid guy.

02:47:15.000 Very solid guy.

02:47:17.000 We should mention that he won that rematch.

02:47:20.000 I got fucking hiccups.

02:47:21.000 He won the rematch versus Dan Anderson.

02:47:25.000 For the title.

02:47:26.000 When he was a champion.

02:47:28.000 Did he have one eye at that point?

02:47:29.000 Yep, he had one eye at that point.

02:47:31.000 Well, how about the craziest one was when he beat Anderson and then he gets his mouthpiece knocked out.

02:47:36.000 He's pointing to the referee to get his mouthpiece back and Anderson hits him with a flying Was it Herb or was it John?

02:47:52.000 At that point, it might have been her.

02:47:54.000 I think it was her, but I think the fight wasn't over.

02:47:56.000 They had another round.

02:47:56.000 The fight was not over because Anderson thought he KO'd him.

02:48:00.000 He hit him with that flying knee and dropped him and walked away like it was a walkaway KO. And then the fight kept going.

02:48:06.000 And he jumped on the cage.

02:48:07.000 Yes, that's right.

02:48:09.000 He thought it was over.

02:48:10.000 But meanwhile, Bisping was blind in one eye.

02:48:14.000 So Bisping, when he's pointing, To see where the fucking mouthpiece is.

02:48:18.000 He probably couldn't even fucking see it coming.

02:48:20.000 He's probably looking for his goddamn eye.

02:48:23.000 Jesus, Rollo.

02:48:27.000 How many fights?

02:48:28.000 He said he fought how many times with one eye?

02:48:31.000 And then he walks away And then he goes what the fuck?

02:48:38.000 I think he just said, what the fuck.

02:48:40.000 Man, mentally too.

02:48:41.000 How do you come from that adrenaline dump?

02:48:44.000 Meanwhile, Bisping survived.

02:48:45.000 How tough is this motherfucker?

02:48:47.000 One eye and survives.

02:48:49.000 He's a savage.

02:48:50.000 Crazy, right?

02:48:51.000 And by the way, that left eye that's fucked up, that's the good eye.

02:48:53.000 That's the good eye.

02:48:54.000 That's the good eye.

02:48:55.000 That's the eye he can see out of.

02:48:57.000 And he comes back and he wins the fifth round, which is bananas, man.

02:49:02.000 Just fucking bananas.

02:49:03.000 Even to win the title, Bisping had to beat Luke Rockhold.

02:49:07.000 And Luke Rockhold took him out the first time.

02:49:11.000 And he beat him on short notice.

02:49:12.000 There was another very short notice fight.

02:49:14.000 One of my favorite moments is right before they were going to fight, Luke was going to him.

02:49:18.000 And he's like, what's that, buddy?

02:49:19.000 And he goes, like, he doesn't want to touch hands.

02:49:21.000 He's like, ah, touch you in a minute, motherfucker!

02:49:25.000 Okay.

02:49:26.000 Yeah, I'll touch you in a minute, motherfucker.

02:49:28.000 He's hilarious.

02:49:29.000 He's funny as shit.

02:49:30.000 It was great.

02:49:31.000 That was a wild victory.

02:49:33.000 He's entertaining.

02:49:34.000 He's a fun guy.

02:49:36.000 He's got an interesting perspective about this Mike Tyson, Jake Paul thing.

02:49:39.000 Because even though Bisping only has one eye, he's been trying to get Jake Paul to fight him, which is kind of crazy.

02:49:44.000 It's a nice paycheck.

02:49:46.000 Would they allow that?

02:49:47.000 A guy with one eye to fight?

02:49:48.000 I don't think so.

02:49:49.000 They're allowing a 60-year-old guy to fight.

02:49:52.000 What do you think about this Mike Tyson, Jake Paul thing?

02:49:55.000 Do you think it's crazy?

02:49:58.000 It's always hard to say because you know he has the ability to drop him on his ass at any time, but...

02:50:05.000 Look, I think all the rules are to his favor.

02:50:08.000 Are we getting tricked by watching pad work?

02:50:10.000 We're getting tricked.

02:50:11.000 I mean, that's a fact.

02:50:12.000 But if you look at the pad work, it's little three to five second bursts.

02:50:17.000 Right.

02:50:17.000 It's not one round.

02:50:19.000 If he was doing that in all one round, I'd go, oh.

02:50:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:50:21.000 But I mean, anybody could put that together.

02:50:23.000 Right, but also, he's just starting to train again.

02:50:25.000 But still.

02:50:26.000 But he's like day one, day two.

02:50:28.000 Those videos, he's literally saying day one.

02:50:30.000 Here's the question.

02:50:31.000 How was this fight with Roy Jones?

02:50:33.000 I didn't see it.

02:50:33.000 How was it?

02:50:34.000 I think they had an agreement.

02:50:36.000 Not to punch the head.

02:50:36.000 Exactly.

02:50:37.000 He was told Roy would not fight him.

02:50:39.000 He wasn't trying to get hit in his head.

02:50:41.000 So they had a prearranged thing where he wasn't going to knock him out.

02:50:43.000 It looked like Mike was not trying to knock him out.

02:50:45.000 That's what it looked like.

02:50:48.000 The fight will be an exhibition, but it'll be real fight rules.

02:50:51.000 I think this is when he was on Hannity.

02:50:54.000 16-ounce gloves and only two minute rounds.

02:50:58.000 That's to Mike's favor.

02:51:00.000 Two minute rounds for sure.

02:51:02.000 Because that was my biggest thing.

02:51:04.000 If he doesn't get him in the first couple rounds, what kind of gas is he going to have at his age?

02:51:08.000 I don't know.

02:51:09.000 See, here's the thing.

02:51:10.000 It's at his age with a lot of supplements.

02:51:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:51:14.000 Hey, look, I hope he wins.

02:51:16.000 God forbid.

02:51:17.000 I don't...

02:51:18.000 If it was just a regular 57-year-old dude with not modern hormone replacement and all that jazz, I'd go, he doesn't have a chance.

02:51:26.000 But 57 years old with just juice to the tits.

02:51:29.000 I don't know, man.

02:51:32.000 What are the rules?

02:51:33.000 What are the rules?

02:51:34.000 What are you allowed to do?

02:51:35.000 Because if you just allow him to do whatever he wants to do, it changes everything.

02:51:38.000 I guess if it's an exhibition, no drug testing.

02:51:40.000 Email response from the Texas Licensing Commission.

02:51:43.000 The promoter is requested to have an event that day.

02:51:45.000 We've not received any proposed cards and thus have no details of what they're planning.

02:51:50.000 And that will affect the possible rules.

02:51:52.000 All ballots are subject to review and approval by TDLR. Please let me know if you need any other information.

02:52:00.000 Okay.

02:52:01.000 So it's not necessarily carved in stone yet.

02:52:03.000 They might not approve it.

02:52:04.000 Interesting.

02:52:04.000 If a lot of people protest, maybe they won't approve it.

02:52:06.000 Are they doing it in Texas?

02:52:09.000 I mean, they were trying to do it at AT&T Stadium.

02:52:11.000 Like, that's crazy.

02:52:12.000 If Tyson dies.

02:52:13.000 Right.

02:52:14.000 Oh, my God.

02:52:14.000 Yeah, see, if you have something like that, if you have...

02:52:17.000 Look, if this...

02:52:17.000 That'd be the end of the...

02:52:19.000 Right.

02:52:21.000 Let's imagine it in a different way, right?

02:52:23.000 Let's not imagine that Mike Tyson is fighting Jake Paul.

02:52:26.000 Let's imagine Mike Tyson is fighting some young, really powerful knockout artist who's a contender.

02:52:32.000 Well, guess what?

02:52:34.000 Jake Paul could be that guy if we didn't think of him as Jake Paul.

02:52:37.000 If you look at the people he knocks dead, when he knocked dead Tyron Woodley with one punch, that dude did fucking crack.

02:52:42.000 Yeah, I mean, honestly, I'm saying exactly what you're saying.

02:52:47.000 We don't want to give him credit because it's Jake Paul.

02:52:49.000 Exactly.

02:52:50.000 But we've got to wake up and realize that he's still 27, young, and for the last four, five, six, seven years, he's had the best coaches working with him one-on-one.

02:53:00.000 Now, we wouldn't be thinking that if it wasn't Jake Paul, that he couldn't do it.

02:53:03.000 Right.

02:53:04.000 So you're right about that.

02:53:05.000 And he's dedicated.

02:53:06.000 And if he was just some wild young dude coming up, knocking people out, knocking out former MMA champions like Tyron, we would go, whoa, keep an eye on this kid.

02:53:14.000 This guy might be something someday.

02:53:16.000 Like, he's on the way up.

02:53:17.000 Yeah, Tyson grew up in this sport, though.

02:53:19.000 100%, but he's also 57. And I think he's going to be 58. Yeah, he'll be 58 at the time he fights.

02:53:25.000 Which is my question, too, is how do you think...

02:53:29.000 Jake Paul, all the guys he's fought are much smaller than him, whether people want to say so or not.

02:53:37.000 Ben Askren fought his whole life at 70.

02:53:39.000 Nate's 55 and 70 pounder.

02:53:42.000 Tyron's 70 pounder.

02:53:44.000 So this guy's walking around well over 200, cutting to 85 for these fights.

02:53:49.000 This is finally a dude...

02:53:52.000 Like, he didn't hurt, like, the Tommy Fury dude.

02:53:55.000 He didn't hurt Nate, really, during the fight.

02:53:57.000 I thought Nate's inactivity.

02:53:59.000 Like, he didn't really get busy in there.

02:54:01.000 Nate apparently had a fucked up shoulder going into the fight.

02:54:03.000 All right.

02:54:03.000 Well, then that would make sense, because he didn't really throw.

02:54:05.000 That's what I heard.

02:54:06.000 That might not be true.

02:54:07.000 You know, so how's he going to handle, again, the age is the factor, but, you know, a big, strong...

02:54:13.000 Two-minute rounds ain't bad.

02:54:14.000 I'm saying.

02:54:15.000 Two-minute rounds aren't bad, and like I said, if they got him on the right fucking mixture...

02:54:20.000 They're going to have to.

02:54:21.000 Even if he's just counting.

02:54:22.000 Or else they're going to be competitive, and they don't.

02:54:24.000 But if they do have him on the right mixture, how do you pass drug tests?

02:54:27.000 How does that work?

02:54:27.000 I mean, is there a drug test on an exhibition?

02:54:30.000 I don't know.

02:54:31.000 That's a good question.

02:54:31.000 Because if there's not, ye fucking haw.

02:54:34.000 Yeah, I know, right?

02:54:35.000 That's the only way.

02:54:37.000 Drugs is the only way I think he's competitive.

02:54:39.000 Right.

02:54:39.000 Well, I mean, that's obvious.

02:54:41.000 If you just look at him, though, he has to be on some kind of hormone replacement.

02:54:43.000 Yeah, Hunter.

02:54:44.000 He looks pretty yoked up right now, too.

02:54:46.000 He looks pretty yoked.

02:54:47.000 What a comeback since The Hangover, huh?

02:54:51.000 I mean, right?

02:54:53.000 He got big for a while.

02:54:55.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, when he was doing the one-man show and all.

02:54:58.000 It sucks when you're fat.

02:55:00.000 You guys never really got fat.

02:55:02.000 Both Tysons on the podcast.

02:55:03.000 I had Tyson when he was big, when he wasn't training at all.

02:55:06.000 And I said to him, you don't work out at all.

02:55:08.000 He goes, I'm afraid I'll ignite my ego.

02:55:11.000 Oh, man.

02:55:12.000 That's terrifying.

02:55:13.000 And that's what happened.

02:55:14.000 It ignited that thing inside of him.

02:55:16.000 When he came back for the Roy...

02:55:18.000 It was two different interviews.

02:55:20.000 Two different humans.

02:55:21.000 Yeah, 100%.

02:55:22.000 I agree with you.

02:55:23.000 Jamie was the first one to say it.

02:55:24.000 It's like a totally different person.

02:55:24.000 Yeah, he was way more intense.

02:55:26.000 Way more.

02:55:26.000 You know what I mean?

02:55:27.000 Terrifying.

02:55:28.000 Probably.

02:55:29.000 And you can imagine he's going to be in that mindset.

02:55:31.000 With all those Anastron's, dollar scenes.

02:55:33.000 How do you say them again?

02:55:34.000 Anastron.

02:55:35.000 You got to be in that mindset, though, when you're getting ready to fight, though.

02:55:40.000 You're in a different mindset.

02:55:41.000 The thing is, if he's physically capable of recapturing 70% of what he used to do, just dealing with that, just dealing with that with probably 90% of the power...

02:55:54.000 70% of the physical ability and 90% of the power, because the power is not gone.

02:55:59.000 You see it when he hits a bag.

02:56:00.000 Yeah, he's still got the power.

02:56:01.000 The power is there, 100%.

02:56:03.000 But he's had a bunch of back issues.

02:56:05.000 He had real bad sciatica.

02:56:06.000 He had problems walking and stuff.

02:56:08.000 He's walking with a cane.

02:56:09.000 But who knows what they've done, stem cells.

02:56:12.000 I'm sure he's with the right people.

02:56:14.000 Even at 57, you can make a lot of money if Mike Tyson's fit and in shape, which is so crazy to say.

02:56:20.000 It's just weird that we're even talking about it.

02:56:23.000 A hundred percent.

02:56:24.000 That the fucking guy from Disney is going to fight Mike Tyson, the YouTube kid.

02:56:28.000 Yeah, I know.

02:56:29.000 And the path to beat Mike always was long dudes that had a good jab later in his career when he wasn't moving his head anymore.

02:56:36.000 So I don't know if Jake can keep Mike off with his jab.

02:56:39.000 We're going to see.

02:56:40.000 But Jake will grab him and wrangle him.

02:56:43.000 I mean, that's what he does good.

02:56:44.000 He wrangles guys.

02:56:46.000 Tyson's people are going to be in the back saying, don't let him wrestle us.

02:56:49.000 He'll be wrenching those fucking arms the way he used to.

02:56:52.000 He'll have to do some jujitsu in it.

02:56:53.000 If Tyson can have a flashback, To the glory days.

02:56:58.000 If there's just like a moment where he just sees a combination and empties it on him, that would be wild to watch.

02:57:05.000 Yeah.

02:57:05.000 For Jake to hurt him, he's got to be there to get hurt.

02:57:07.000 I know he's not exactly Muhammad Ali, you know?

02:57:10.000 Exactly.

02:57:11.000 And if Tyson can still move his head like he used to move his head.

02:57:14.000 Now, the thing about lower backs, though, if you've got a lower back problem, you've got to kind of save that movement.

02:57:19.000 You can only do it so many times before it's painful.

02:57:21.000 It all depends on the condition of his lower back.

02:57:24.000 Because you've got to think, Mike Tyson in his prime, go back and watch some of those early days.

02:57:28.000 He's just coming at you.

02:57:29.000 He's just moving.

02:57:30.000 There's just so much to calculate and bombs are coming your way and you're trying to hit him with jabs.

02:57:36.000 The custom auto Tyson was the whole problem.

02:57:40.000 The head movement.

02:57:41.000 People forgot how hard he was to hit.

02:57:43.000 His head movement was sick.

02:57:44.000 That's what stopped later in his career.

02:57:45.000 I mean, really, that was a big difference.

02:57:48.000 Exactly, and I think that coincided with back problems.

02:57:50.000 I just, and he also had neck problems.

02:57:52.000 I believe he had a neck surgery because, you know, he used to do a lot of those wrestler's bridges.

02:57:55.000 Man, that guy's neck, dude.

02:57:56.000 Oh, my God.

02:57:57.000 And you've got to think of how many dudes like Lennox Lewis just teed off on his noggin.

02:58:02.000 Evander Holyfield just teeing off on his noggin.

02:58:04.000 What is that doing to your neck?

02:58:05.000 That can't be good.

02:58:06.000 But my whole thing is this, man, like if what we saw with Vitor Belfort and Evander Holyfield, if that's any indication, and Vitor was 45. Right.

02:58:17.000 I know.

02:58:21.000 So is Jake.

02:58:23.000 Yeah.

02:58:23.000 You think Jake is?

02:58:24.000 Maybe.

02:58:25.000 Maybe.

02:58:25.000 I mean, why wouldn't he be?

02:58:26.000 But he's also young.

02:58:26.000 And he's still 27, right.

02:58:28.000 So maybe he's not, but either way.

02:58:30.000 He's got natural testosterone.

02:58:31.000 Yeah.

02:58:32.000 Weren't you just shooting a movie?

02:58:34.000 What?

02:58:34.000 That's right.

02:58:36.000 What'd you do?

02:58:37.000 I'm shooting a movie.

02:58:38.000 With Denzel?

02:58:38.000 No!

02:58:39.000 What?

02:58:39.000 I call him Denzel.

02:58:41.000 What the fuck is that Denzel?

02:58:42.000 Did you say Denzel?

02:58:43.000 No, I call myself Denzel.

02:58:45.000 Get my Denzel on.

02:58:47.000 That's an independent film I'm doing in LA right now.

02:58:49.000 Nice.

02:58:50.000 Don't get stabbed by any homeless people.

02:58:52.000 Nah, man.

02:58:54.000 LA, I don't like LA. It's weird.

02:58:56.000 Yeah.

02:58:56.000 It's weird now.

02:58:57.000 There's no optimism left in the city.

02:58:59.000 No, it's a city that's abandoned.

02:59:01.000 Yeah.

02:59:02.000 San Francisco.

02:59:03.000 It's a weird place.

02:59:03.000 Oh, they're all fucked.

02:59:05.000 And it happened so quick.

02:59:06.000 It makes me wonder, like, what is that going to be like in five years?

02:59:09.000 Everybody got out of there, huh?

02:59:10.000 Look how quick San Francisco got cleaned up.

02:59:13.000 When Xi Jinping came into town.

02:59:15.000 When Xi Jinping showed up.

02:59:16.000 Isn't it amazing?

02:59:16.000 And then, bam, right back to it.

02:59:17.000 I was saying, if I was the mayor of San Francisco, I'd just buy that dude a condo.

02:59:20.000 Like, come stay.

02:59:21.000 Whenever you're here, they're going to clean the streets.

02:59:23.000 All the problems are fixed, right.

02:59:23.000 This is going to fucking take care of them.

02:59:25.000 When he came into town for a conference, they cleaned up the streets.

02:59:28.000 Everything.

02:59:29.000 Everything.

02:59:29.000 They got rid of all the homeless people.

02:59:31.000 They put barriers up so they couldn't get up on there.

02:59:33.000 Really?

02:59:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:59:35.000 Where they put the people.

02:59:36.000 Exactly.

02:59:37.000 What Gavin Newsom said that was so hilarious, he said, well, when guests come over, you clean up your house.

02:59:42.000 Like, bitch, keep your house clean.

02:59:43.000 You got human shit all over the floor of your house.

02:59:47.000 This is crazy.

02:59:48.000 He's a psychopath.

02:59:49.000 He can lie to your face without even blinking an eye.

02:59:53.000 It's so weird to watch him do it, too.

02:59:54.000 It's like 1980s Roadhouse Lion.

02:59:57.000 For real.

02:59:57.000 You know, it's not even good.

02:59:59.000 He's the one that got caught eating out.

03:00:00.000 Yeah.

03:00:03.000 He's like, well, I've been bad.

03:00:05.000 You got me or something like that.

03:00:06.000 He was like, you shouldn't really do that.

03:00:08.000 And I was, you know, my bad.

03:00:10.000 It's like, dude, you fucking slime.

03:00:12.000 He's so slick and he looks like a guy who could be president.

03:00:15.000 And we're dumb.

03:00:16.000 We're like, hey, I think he talks good.

03:00:18.000 He looks like Christian Bale, an American psycho.

03:00:20.000 He does.

03:00:21.000 He does.

03:00:21.000 But it's like, you know, if he says the right things and he talks the right way, look, Biden won.

03:00:26.000 Say it with a smile and you're good.

03:00:27.000 Biden won and he's barely alive.

03:00:29.000 So there you go.

03:00:31.000 And they're running him again.

03:00:32.000 I'd rather have Terry Crews from Idiocracy.

03:00:35.000 Terry Crews could win right now if you ran with that wig on.

03:00:38.000 If you ran with that wig on, Terry Crews, everybody loves Terry Crews.

03:00:42.000 They were watering their plants with Gatorade or whatever the drink was.

03:00:45.000 Bro, you want to know the wildest shit?

03:00:47.000 The Rock told me.

03:00:48.000 He told it on the podcast that they called him and contacted him about running for president?

03:00:52.000 Yeah, I think so.

03:00:52.000 Wasn't it on the podcast?

03:00:54.000 Yeah, they contacted him and asked him if he wanted to run.

03:00:59.000 The Rock.

03:01:01.000 What?

03:01:02.000 That's idiocracy.

03:01:03.000 I mean, for sure.

03:01:05.000 How about he could win?

03:01:06.000 I know.

03:01:07.000 I would probably vote for him.

03:01:09.000 I would probably vote for him.

03:01:10.000 I mean, the dude is disciplined.

03:01:12.000 He's a good guy.

03:01:14.000 Jacked.

03:01:14.000 I want a jack president.

03:01:15.000 I want a president where every other president has to step aside.

03:01:19.000 Bitch, The Rock is here.

03:01:21.000 The Rock Johnson details how a political party asked him to run for president.

03:01:25.000 Yeah, on my podcast.

03:01:26.000 It's hilarious.

03:01:28.000 Yeah.

03:01:29.000 Isn't that wild, dude?

03:01:31.000 Asked him to run for president.

03:01:32.000 You know it's for the Democrats, for sure.

03:01:34.000 Yeah.

03:01:35.000 And if he did, where?

03:01:36.000 I mean, he didn't first buy it before the last election.

03:01:39.000 There we go.

03:01:41.000 That is the president.

03:01:42.000 Come on, son.

03:01:43.000 If The Rock won and then came out like that.

03:01:46.000 That was the name of it.

03:01:46.000 Imagine if The Rock won and came out with that outfit on.

03:01:49.000 Can I just say, if anybody out there has not seen Idiocracy, they should watch that fucking movie.

03:01:54.000 Oh my God, it's so good.

03:01:55.000 It holds up.

03:01:56.000 Mike Judge, though.

03:01:57.000 He's a genius.

03:01:58.000 He's got animals in this.

03:01:59.000 Beavis and Butthead, everything.

03:02:01.000 Mike Judge is the man.

03:02:03.000 Office Space, King of the Hill.

03:02:06.000 He's the man.

03:02:07.000 Mike Judge is the man.

03:02:07.000 He's a great guy, too.

03:02:09.000 He lives out here.

03:02:10.000 That's wild.

03:02:11.000 We had him on Unfiltered once, and the fact that he knew one of my fights, I get weird when people know, because I don't think anybody watches anything.

03:02:20.000 I don't get impressed with guys in Hollywood and stuff, but I fucking love Office Space.

03:02:25.000 Yeah.

03:02:25.000 And all this shit.

03:02:27.000 When I like somebody's work, I'm like, whoa.

03:02:29.000 No, he's just a regular dude.

03:02:31.000 He's a real cool guy.

03:02:32.000 He's a fan, like a real fan of MMA. He loves fights.

03:02:35.000 I met him years ago, too.

03:02:37.000 He's been coming to the fights for a long fucking time.

03:02:40.000 And he comes to the fights, too?

03:02:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:02:42.000 I met him at the fights.

03:02:43.000 The first time I ever met him.

03:02:44.000 Was he a comedian as well, or was he just a writer?

03:02:46.000 I don't think he did stand-up.

03:02:48.000 I might be mistaken.

03:02:49.000 He's pretty fucking funny.

03:02:50.000 I don't know.

03:02:50.000 He's a hilarious dude, though.

03:02:51.000 And what's upsetting is these movies...

03:02:53.000 They become like cult classics.

03:02:55.000 I don't think Idiocracy or Office Space.

03:02:57.000 I might be wrong, but I don't think they made a lot of money.

03:02:59.000 But they are fucking classics if you see those movies.

03:03:02.000 Oh, I bet those movies made money.

03:03:03.000 Do you think they made money?

03:03:04.000 I bet Office Space made money.

03:03:04.000 Yeah, I don't know about that.

03:03:06.000 Office Space was pretty big.

03:03:07.000 And then you've got to think about all the DVD sales and all the streaming sales.

03:03:09.000 Well, that's the difference.

03:03:10.000 I don't think it's made like a...

03:03:12.000 A big theatrical thing.

03:03:13.000 I'm not sure.

03:03:14.000 I don't think it did.

03:03:14.000 I think it might have made it up on...

03:03:15.000 Damn, that's a funny movie.

03:03:16.000 It is pretty funny.

03:03:17.000 That is such a good movie.

03:03:19.000 But those movies, you can't get them today.

03:03:21.000 They don't make them anymore.

03:03:22.000 They don't make those wild, insane, funny, something about Mary type movies.

03:03:26.000 You can't.

03:03:27.000 No.

03:03:28.000 Somebody's always going to get offended.

03:03:29.000 Something about Mary was...

03:03:31.000 Bro, I remember...

03:03:33.000 Ben Stiller's put out quite a few of them.

03:03:36.000 Oh, yeah.

03:03:37.000 Dodgeball.

03:03:38.000 Tropic Thunder is one of the all-time great comics.

03:03:41.000 I'm telling you.

03:03:42.000 Could not make it today.

03:03:43.000 A lot of the humor was different back then.

03:03:46.000 You were allowed.

03:03:47.000 You were allowed to joke about it.

03:03:48.000 You were allowed to actually be funny.

03:03:50.000 It's about Ricky Bobby.

03:03:51.000 Yeah, man.

03:03:52.000 Goddamn it.

03:03:53.000 Tom Cruise, use your witchcraft!

03:03:57.000 They don't even make funny movies anymore.

03:04:00.000 It's such a judgmental world that we live in now.

03:04:03.000 Everybody's trying to attack things and take people down.

03:04:05.000 It's just so stupid.

03:04:06.000 In the beginning of Hangover, your friends are so immature.

03:04:10.000 Ready?

03:04:11.000 Paging Dr. Faggot.

03:04:14.000 He's sitting there like...

03:04:17.000 It's silly.

03:04:18.000 It's just silliness.

03:04:19.000 People need more silliness.

03:04:22.000 They do.

03:04:23.000 We all do.

03:04:24.000 That's why this is fun.

03:04:26.000 That shit was great.

03:04:27.000 That's why the four of us get together.

03:04:28.000 So we need a name.

03:04:30.000 Is the cuck sticking around at all?

03:04:32.000 Is that gonna be it?

03:04:33.000 I have to be a cuck?

03:04:36.000 I think we can take that name.

03:04:39.000 I think we're the fucking cucks.

03:04:41.000 Why not?

03:04:42.000 It's a funny thing to call yourself.

03:04:44.000 Just take that name.

03:04:44.000 You know why?

03:04:45.000 Because you'd think we would come up with something toxic.

03:04:47.000 Yeah, like the Four Horsemen.

03:04:49.000 But no, the Four Horsemen.

03:04:50.000 Fuck you, Rugen.

03:04:54.000 When you wrote that in the group text, I go, I'm going to wait until he says that in the studio.

03:05:00.000 The Bulldogs.

03:05:02.000 Yeah, what are we?

03:05:03.000 I think the Cucks is a perfect...

03:05:06.000 Cucks is funny.

03:05:08.000 It's funny.

03:05:09.000 It's like calling me tall or something.

03:05:11.000 Talking shit.

03:05:12.000 We're talking shit right from the jump.

03:05:14.000 You can't take a show seriously that's called Cucks.

03:05:17.000 Yeah, right.

03:05:17.000 Definitely not.

03:05:18.000 So I want to see that.

03:05:20.000 On an episode of the Joe Rogan Experience called Cucks.

03:05:22.000 Yeah.

03:05:24.000 What the fuck?

03:05:25.000 You got the protect your parks, then you got the cucks.

03:05:28.000 I like it.

03:05:29.000 I like it.

03:05:30.000 So that's it for now.

03:05:31.000 We'll put a bookmark on it.

03:05:32.000 We'll have to think about it.

03:05:33.000 You might get home, wake up in the middle of the night and go, I can't be a cuck.

03:05:35.000 No, no.

03:05:36.000 John Rollo's going to be the one texting us.

03:05:37.000 Boys, let's rethink this.

03:05:40.000 The Four Horsemen has a ring to it.

03:05:44.000 For the record, I'm all in on Cucks, for the record.

03:05:47.000 I feel like Cucks is it.

03:05:49.000 It came to me in a dream.

03:05:50.000 Peer pressure.

03:05:51.000 If it stays in here, it's fine.

03:05:52.000 At my school, if somebody goes, hey, Professor Cuck, I'm going to fuck you up.

03:05:56.000 Somebody gets strangled.

03:05:57.000 Somebody gets strangled.

03:05:58.000 That's a fact.

03:06:01.000 It's not happening.

03:06:03.000 But I like it, you know?

03:06:05.000 That's good.

03:06:06.000 Alright, gentlemen, give everybody, Rallo, your Instagram and Ground Control.

03:06:11.000 Yep.

03:06:12.000 Ground Control is groundcontrolbaltimore.com.

03:06:15.000 My fight promotion, shogunfights.com.

03:06:18.000 That's a fucking great show, too.

03:06:20.000 Shogun?

03:06:21.000 You guys been watching Shogun?

03:06:22.000 That was sick, man.

03:06:23.000 Goddamn that show.

03:06:24.000 No, I didn't see that.

03:06:25.000 I'm going to watch it, though.

03:06:26.000 Are you watching it?

03:06:26.000 It's good?

03:06:27.000 Yes.

03:06:27.000 It's good.

03:06:28.000 It's great.

03:06:28.000 The reading?

03:06:29.000 The subtitles?

03:06:30.000 No, no, no, no.

03:06:32.000 It's not a lot.

03:06:33.000 It's in and out.

03:06:34.000 They speak English, too.

03:06:35.000 It's worth it.

03:06:35.000 I'm going to watch it.

03:06:36.000 I watch the Yellowstone, but they get too much into the...

03:06:39.000 It's a good show.

03:06:41.000 I like it.

03:06:41.000 But then they do stuff just for the Midwestern people.

03:06:44.000 I don't give a fuck about that.

03:06:45.000 They play the hee-haw music, and they're like...

03:06:47.000 You want to watch the Yellowstone?

03:06:48.000 I'm folding that shit.

03:06:49.000 1883. I watched it.

03:06:51.000 Oh, I watched that.

03:06:51.000 I watched 1883 and I watched 1923. They were both great.

03:06:55.000 I'm waiting for the next 1923 to come out.

03:06:58.000 You seen it?

03:06:59.000 When the one gets back from Africa?

03:07:03.000 Which one was the one?

03:07:05.000 It's really good.

03:07:06.000 I mean, they're both good.

03:07:07.000 I thought that one was...

03:07:08.000 I like that one.

03:07:09.000 They're both great.

03:07:10.000 1883 is fucking amazing, too, but it's over when it's over.

03:07:13.000 Taylor Sheridan?

03:07:14.000 Oh, yeah.

03:07:15.000 He's a great guy, too.

03:07:16.000 Dude, Sicario is maybe one of the sickest movies of all time.

03:07:19.000 That was depressing, though, the 1883. Yeah, but that's what life was like back then, man.

03:07:24.000 That was a brutal existence.

03:07:25.000 Even in 1923, I like when they just start coming up with the refrigerator and shit.

03:07:30.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

03:07:31.000 Even the ones that are resisting it, they're like, well, I'm going to have to get one of those washing machines or something.

03:07:37.000 It's like just coming out.

03:07:38.000 They're like, look, I want to keep it to our traditions, but listen, I got to get that dishwasher.

03:07:43.000 It's like weird.

03:07:45.000 It's like when it's just coming out.

03:07:47.000 It's very cool.

03:07:48.000 Good shit.

03:07:49.000 All right.

03:07:49.000 So Shogun Fights, Ground Control.

03:07:51.000 At BeMoreMMA is Instagram.

03:07:54.000 Dean?

03:07:55.000 Catch me at the next Karate Combat member, Joe Schilling and Luke Rockhold taking a year in Hawaii.

03:08:00.000 That's right.

03:08:01.000 When is that happening?

03:08:02.000 April 20th.

03:08:03.000 Oh, shit.

03:08:04.000 I like Joe Schilling.

03:08:05.000 Yeah, so y'all can check me out there.

03:08:06.000 Joe Schilling's a bad man.

03:08:07.000 Yeah.

03:08:07.000 What about Modern Rose's?

03:08:09.000 And Modern Rose, my restaurant in Hollywood, Florida at the Modern Rose Hollywood.

03:08:14.000 Do you have a restaurant?

03:08:15.000 Yeah.

03:08:16.000 Yeah, a restaurant tour.

03:08:17.000 Coffee shop.

03:08:18.000 Nice food.

03:08:19.000 It's beautiful.

03:08:19.000 Any gluten-free options?

03:08:21.000 I don't know for sure.

03:08:22.000 Anything gonna make you shit in a box?

03:08:25.000 UFC unfiltered with myself and Jimmy Norton, my little bird.

03:08:29.000 And Instagram, it's MattSaraBJJ.

03:08:31.000 Alright, beautiful.

03:08:32.000 Thank you, gentlemen.

03:08:33.000 Thank you!

The Joe Rogan Experience - November 07, 2011

JRE MMA Show #154 with Matt Serra, Din Thomas & John Rallo

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