00:00:38.000What we did is we started doing McCarthy Mondays because when he went back to refereeing, he's not allowed to talk about promotions, not allowed to talk about fighters and what's wrong and the things that possibly can make some changes.
00:00:50.000So we just started McCarthy Monday where we just talk about the Joe Schilling situation.
00:00:54.000That's something we could talk about, right?
00:00:56.000So I created a show for him to just only do on Mondays.
00:02:01.000But what you run into is you run into some issues where the referee says too much and then people come back at them and then the commissions have to answer for it and then the fighters dig on them.
00:03:47.000I don't think we should, but I'm saying if we should, there's an argument that you're going to blow out a guy's knee and his career will never be the same.
00:05:39.000First off, the stomp I don't ever agree with.
00:05:40.000And the reason why is this Name me the fight that you saw that a stomp was an effective technique when the fighter was not already seriously hurt.
00:06:06.000There was, there was a mini one and Phil Baroni.
00:06:08.000He did that a couple times with him when Minua couldn't get the takedown because I was there cornering him for that fight.
00:06:13.000There was that fight, then there was, um, and then Shogun and Ninja.
00:06:15.000Remember when they used to like do the stomp?
00:06:17.000Oh, yeah, no, Shogun, Ninja, and Shogun, the brothers together.
00:06:21.000Yeah, those guys were phenomenal at them.
00:06:24.000Oh, and we people that only saw Shogun in Pride missed it.
00:06:28.000Oh, yeah, you missed it, excuse me, in the UFC fight against in Pride Quentin Rampage Jackson was, I mean, because a lot of people didn't, you know.
00:06:37.000Going into that fight, you know, that's Rampage.
00:10:18.000Once he starts connecting, they had that Soviet style fluid boxing that just whip punches.
00:10:25.000Look, I'll tell you what, I worked out with Fedor, and it was a great moment in my life if you're going to sit there and say, Well, if you're going to get your ass kicked, it's a great moment.
00:10:35.000But the one thing I always thought, you know, before watching him, refing him, I go, he's got to have some kind of, you know, like just tarred strength, you know.
00:11:52.000But Fedor was a different thing because Fedor had that Russian style of movement that you see, like Dmitry Bival has, where they're real relaxed.
00:12:04.000He's got that little bit of a bounce, it out, just sits there and wait, and he waits for your motion to come where he wants it to be, and then he changes that distance and just crashes.
00:12:12.000Fedor did a really good job of coming around your guard as well.
00:12:15.000So it wasn't just a big straight right all the time.
00:12:17.000Rich Franklin used to do that as well.
00:12:19.000He'd come around your guard, you'd put your hands up, and Fedor had a He did a great job with that, coming around and landing the big overhand right, and then he'd come up uppercut, then he'd take you down or hip toss you, body lock you.
00:12:28.000And if you took him to the ground off his back, he's got one of the quickest fucking arm bars in the game, which is nuts.
00:13:05.000The thing, I mean, he, first of all, his stand up has always been real dangerous, but also it's like the way he was able to check that left kick.
00:13:13.000He was doing a lot of like lifting the knee up and catching it up high.
00:13:51.000And then on top of it, too, when you fought him in the phone booth, you're not worried as much for that head kick to get there if I'm within inches of you.
00:18:51.000It's the stop and go of sprinting, just like a real fight.
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00:20:27.000Because there's nothing more satisfying, you know, in terms of when you run down the line, the guy plays the ball into the corner, and you got to beat that defender there, and you cross it across, and you're it's that sprinting down there to beat him.
00:20:37.000But then also, too, in wrestling, knowing that you can break another human being like, I need to break you mentally, grind on you, and hang on you.
00:20:43.000Those two sports, I think, are huge for the sport of being alive.
00:20:46.000And getting used to suffering dehydrated, right?
00:22:30.000For an athletic commission, we'll say the state of California, state of Texas, they have to have that particular fighter licensed for them to say, We want to weigh you.
00:22:41.000If they're not licensed in that state on that year, they can't.
00:23:07.000I think we've seen more of the same thing happening about they stopped cutting as much weight.
00:23:10.000You could sit there and, you know, the only way an athletic commission could kind of do it, but this is bad on promotions, is an athletic commission could sit there and say, you are allowed to weigh no more than five pounds more than that weigh in weight.
00:23:32.000And the second part is what's saying that the fighter themselves is not keeping themselves dehydrated to make that five pound, and now they're going in even more dehydrated into the fight, which could cause them more problems.
00:25:22.000But you take a look at him, I'm so surprised how he can make the weight.
00:25:25.000When you pass by him and you see how tall he is, how big he is, and you see him with the face off with Cyril Gon right now, you're like, how would this guy ever make 185?
00:26:21.000But the problem with being the bigger, stronger guy in the lighter weight class is you're never the faster guy.
00:26:29.000And so you've got to be able to maul that person to be effective.
00:26:35.000And it only lasts for a certain amount of time if you had to dehydrate yourself to that point, where speed is always there when someone has it to a point, unless they get tired.
00:27:44.000I just had Dustin Poirier on the podcast yesterday, and we were just talking about how he's like, Look, Max, the first time he came up to 55, didn't put the weight on properly.
00:29:54.000When Max fought Aldo the first time for the title, he weighed, you know, obviously weighed in at championship weight 145 the night of the fight, Joe.
00:30:04.000Now, he was in street clothes, but they put him on a scale 178.
00:36:16.000Especially with the amount of rounds comparatively and stuff, because you can have a bad round and it can really affect your fight just like MMA.
00:36:22.000But this fight, I really thought going in, I go, look, Rico will do okay for the first couple rounds, and then it's going to start to get to him.
00:38:24.000So if you're going to stop it because you felt like the first knockdown was too much, why would you let him rinse the glove off and he didn't take significant damage after that?
00:39:02.000When you see him go back to his corner, maybe is the key word.
00:39:04.000See, one of the things that used to be, though, in boxing, it was always that you would, if a mouthpiece hit the ground, you had to take it to the corner.
00:39:10.000Have it rinsed with water and have it placed back in the fighter's mouth.
00:39:16.000Because of MMA and the fact that we take a mouthpiece off of the ground and stuff it right back in the fighter's mouth, they have now changed to the point where they do the same thing.
00:39:26.000And the difference is many times we'll hand the mouthpiece to the MMA fighter because they have gloveless fingers.
00:40:31.000So it's like when the UFC goes to a country that doesn't have a commission, they sometimes bring Herb Dean, they'll bring referees with them.
00:40:36.000So they know the rules to make sure that something like this doesn't happen.
00:40:39.000That referee hasn't followed up with the rules in a big time fight.
00:40:43.000He's not gone and advanced his training to understand this is what we do now, and this is why.
00:43:20.000That was crazy because I don't think the people in the audience had any idea what had happened.
00:43:25.000If you go back to that, you know, because Herb Dean was a referee and Herb did a great job, but it was, I was actually in the corner of Tim Sylvia, you know, where I was sitting, and I had Jeremy Horn and Matt Hughes and Pat Militich are in his corner, right?
00:43:41.000And they had this, I had the same view that they had.
00:43:43.000And what you saw was Tim Sylvia, but you saw his elbow.
00:43:48.000Out from that arm bar, yeah, away from the hip, and all of a sudden, Herb's stopping it, and they are going crazy.
00:44:18.000The person who was in charge of the medical staff for the Nevada State Athletic Mission, since it was in Nevada, they're looking at Tim and Tim is like going, you know.
00:44:26.000But you saw Tim slowly stop doing using that one arm, started going down to the side as reality started setting in and the pain started coming.
00:44:34.000But they basically said, There's nothing wrong with his arm, right?
00:44:38.000I swear to you, Herb's greatest response I've ever heard he goes, X ray that motherfucker, right?
00:48:46.000But, you know, you're always going to have the, there's certain fights, no matter what, they're always going to be there.
00:48:52.000You know, as the judge, you're always, you're trying to do, Your best.
00:48:55.000Yeah, but there's this one day where she was involved in quite a few like ridiculous ones.
00:49:00.000And the Tim Bradley, Manny Pacquiao one was a big one.
00:49:03.000And then they looked at some other ones and then she stepped away from it.
00:49:06.000The problem is, and I'm not accusing this lady or anybody of this, but I'm saying that some people have done this in the past, is that all you have to do is make it a split decision.
00:49:16.000All you have to do is be one shitty judge that even though it was clearly for this guy, you say it's for that guy and someone's making a ton of loot.
00:50:18.000And it's because, look, there is, at times, we get media and we get people talking about our fights that call robberies when there's no robbery.
01:01:41.000I don't hold it against him, but also, is it kind of somewhere, is there an asterisk next to it a little bit because Volkanovsky coming off the head kick knockout loss?
01:01:48.000Max Holloway cutting from 55 to 45 after putting all the weight on, then getting knocked out.
01:01:54.000The only one I would say no is Charles because he goes up.
01:02:27.000I think you need someone who loves you.
01:02:31.000Someone who is just absolutely, totally honest saying, you can't do this this fast.
01:02:36.000I'm not saying you can't do it, but you have to do these things to be able to make it to where you have an ability to take a shot like you used to because it's diminished at this moment.
01:04:10.000And if Volkanovsky had that mindset, he would have never fought in Islam unless he went through a full camp again because he almost beat him the first time.
01:04:18.000It was a really close fight the first time.
01:04:20.000The second fight he comes in, he's a little soft.
01:05:10.000You end up concussed until now all of a sudden the headaches are occurring and the bright lights start to bother you and all these things start to add up and you're starting to get mad about things that you can't understand.
01:06:26.000He took that year off and he came back, actually recovered.
01:06:29.000But Freddie, being a longtime boxer himself and being around the game and seeing guys getting knocked out and seeing guys jumping back in too quick, he knew.
01:07:23.000And, you know, you can take a look at a lot of the issues that he has.
01:07:26.000But as much as you're looking at, you know, you're looking at that with Freddie.
01:07:32.000Take a look at his brother Pepper, who took a lot less, is worse than Freddie.
01:07:36.000I mean, Pepper's gone now, but I mean, headshots and trauma to the brain, especially when you don't give it the opportunity to rest and heal, it will absolutely take and burn your career.
01:08:44.000You've got to understand that you, you know, I always, I try to tell fighters all the time, look, you're a Ferrari, you know, and you want to be a Lamborghini, you're a Lamborghini.
01:08:53.000But first off, it's like, you know, the whole John Jones thing is, you know, be careful of what you put in its gas tank, okay?
01:09:48.000It's just you can't identify yourself.
01:09:49.000Well, Josh, you could speak to this because, you know, you fought at the highest level for a long fucking time and you stepped away healthy.
01:13:18.000Khabib was, he was just so relentless.
01:13:20.000But it's everything, it's everything to do with his lifestyle.
01:13:25.000And this is where you get into you know, you've seen it too many times champions, and there's been great champions.
01:13:31.000But when you become the champion, everything in your life changes.
01:13:35.000The things that come your way change, you know, you get offered things that you didn't get offered in the same way before, you get all these opportunities, and all of a sudden, and Instead of going to the gym, you're spending the day on a plane going to a location to do something.
01:13:49.000Sometimes it's for the promotion that you're working for.
01:13:52.000Sometimes it's for the UFC or whatever promotion there is.
01:14:26.000The thing about him is that he tries to make sure he puts the guys that had helped get him there, tries to help them get elevated as well.
01:14:33.000And that's kind of what I'm trying to say is that how you've done with your guys, with your group of comics and friends, you guys all lift each other up.
01:14:42.000He does the same thing with the group of friends that he has.
01:15:51.000So I was up there for an hour just chatting with them while they're riding bikes, you know, lifting weights, getting their workout in, and everyone else is down at the bar drinking.
01:16:43.000Drinking, especially, I guess, Coke, but I don't have a lot of experience with guys that I know that were doing Coke, but I have a lot of experience with guys that were drinkers.
01:16:52.000And you would see them in the morning on, like, they would go out Saturday night.
01:17:15.000Because you're probably not as good as you would have been.
01:17:17.000And then maybe you're going to get hit with some shots that you wouldn't have got hit with, or you've been going to get tapped when you wouldn't have got tapped.
01:19:41.000And that's the crazy thing that he's going to fight Derek Lewis, who's the biggest knockout puncher in the history of the fucking heavyweight division.
01:24:16.000I was at an awards thing and Misha Tate and Rashad Evans and I and my wife were taking a picture and all of a sudden there's a shadow comes over the top of us and it's Francis with his arms out like, hey, right?
01:27:35.000I mean, you got to think if you had a kid and you knew this kid was going to be wrestling, bang, bang, bang, when he's coming up, you could make a totally different kind of kid.
01:27:45.000I read a story about this guy and his son started showing androgenic effects very early on.
01:31:44.000If you put that fucking guy in one of those tester machines, it would ding like one of those cartoon things where you hit him on the alley and it hits the bell.
01:31:55.000There would be fireworks going off, streamers coming down.
01:31:58.000There's no chance that guy's on the Natch.
01:32:08.000Only one world record was broken in the 50 yard, yeah, yeah.
01:32:11.000Really, that was a 50 meter swim, but they were wearing a suit that's illegal, yeah, because it makes you slippery, yeah.
01:32:18.000And it was a guy that had already beaten the world record like I don't know a couple years back, something's beaten him since.
01:32:23.000It's no one really, it wasn't that successful.
01:32:26.000And I talked to a friend of mine about it, and he was like, I think, first of all, they're not like monitoring everything everyone's doing, they're not optimizing that.
01:32:33.000If you really want to juice these people up, you can't let them do it themselves.
01:32:37.000You've got to have a whole program where you put them on this stuff.
01:32:44.000The whole thing is kind of like Red Bull.
01:32:46.000You know how Red Bull does all the crazy different stunt stuff and everything?
01:32:51.000Their whole thing is they are a company that gives out or puts out these monthly things of TRT and all these different things with testosterone and stuff.
01:33:03.000So they did this whole thing as an advertisement.
01:33:07.000Basically, for people to see that being enhanced is better and that you'll come and now sign up for it.
01:33:14.000I think it's $399 a month for your whole thing to be able to.
01:33:46.000The whole question is this when you truly look at it, because I look and say, look, if you open it up to everyone, then it's someone's choice.
01:33:56.000But it's different when you're lifting a weight or you're swimming in a pool or doing those things or you're beating on another human being.
01:34:26.000The strokes that you get on EPO are the best.
01:34:34.000But I mean, I've got to think there's a way to do all those things if you're monitoring your blood work and you're being very careful where you don't go crazy like the Russian cat.
01:35:07.000We get you in a hyperbaric chamber every day for two hours, and this is what we're going to do testosterone in the morning, testosterone at lunch, testosterone at night.
01:36:36.000I just talked to him yesterday, Kane, and I was just talking to him about it.
01:36:38.000I said, if there's one fight you could come back for, and he's like, you know, I'm really, really like, he's not, he's just, he's completely checked out of the fight thing.
01:36:46.000But I was like, no, he's not checked out of fighting.
01:36:47.000I mean, he's doing a great job of training guys.
01:39:00.000But Dr. Rhonda Patrick talked about this.
01:39:02.000And she was saying essentially that if you have this, here it is APOA4 appears to increase the risk of severity of chronic traumatic encephalopathy in people with significant repetitive head impacts, but is a modifier of risk, not a cause by itself.
01:39:16.000So, meaning, obviously, if you have it and you're not taking headshots, you're okay.
01:39:25.000A large post mortem study of 364 people with RH1 294 with CTE 70 without carrying APOE4 was associated with more advanced CTE stage and higher tau protein burden in the frontal lobe.
01:39:41.000But that's just because they haven't been testing all the MMA fighters or all the boxers.
01:39:47.000Because if you really, if you just test in regular folks or football players, probably it's like football players is probably in the country the most.
01:39:57.000Because you think about high school kids, even junior high kids, they're traumatic.
01:40:01.000I mean, they did a study of, I forget how many different people, but they found that everyone, it was like nine out of ten had it in every group, whether it was high school kids, college kids, some level of CTE, which is nuts.
01:41:08.000All it will do is intensify the effects of the first shot, all this stuff.
01:41:12.000And I took a DVD, I said, let's watch.
01:41:15.000What fight did you use in that episode?
01:41:17.000Dude, I had a bunch, you know, and it was a matter of trying to show him, hey, all these things that we think are just not true.
01:41:26.000Okay, when we have to branch out and start to figure this stuff out a little bit more, because, you know, in boxing, it's different because.
01:41:33.000Boxing establishes time for me to make decisions.
01:41:37.000MMA takes that time away because I have a fighter that is now, instead of walking towards or trotting towards a neutral corner or something like that, they're trotting towards that person to do more damage to them.
01:41:48.000And so you're making that quicker decision.
01:41:50.000And we've had too many fights where we have someone that they're out going down and then hit the ground and you have to actually wait.
01:42:00.000I just had one last week with Jason Jackson, who is fighting his opponent, Jeff Creighton.
01:42:08.000Creighton gets hit and he's going down, and I'm going in to stop it.
01:42:11.000And I see he starts sitting up, and I go, I gotta wait.
01:42:14.000And it's like, I don't want to wait, don't sit up.
01:42:16.000And he comes back, boom, hits him, goes out, I stop it.
01:42:20.000But it's like those are the ones that you look at and you go, man, to understand the way the human body responds differently in certain situations.
01:42:29.000But we've learned more as far as the human body will do weird things in traumatic situations.
01:42:36.000And it is the ability to hit someone and to take those synapses that are connected.
01:42:42.000And to separate them, there is no difference in being able to hit them and putting them back.
01:43:39.000There was a little bit of a stereotype that good looking guys, when push comes and shove, they're going to fall apart because they're too good looking.
01:44:50.000Go back to Connor McGregor versus Mayweather because no matter what you want to say, Connor won the first couple rounds because Mayweather didn't throw any punches.
01:44:59.000You don't, this whole thing about, oh, you're in general ringmanship.
01:45:22.000I think it's easier for the heavier weights, though, to go up to boxing and have a little bit more success than it would be for the smaller guys.
01:45:28.000Like, Ilya Tapore to fight Bud Crawford.
01:48:34.000And everyone has this idea, we talk about it all the time, and I go, you don't understand the difference this much makes in the difference of how you compare in a fight with somebody.
01:48:52.000These guys that, with only striking, they develop an understanding of positions and techniques.
01:48:58.000That's just not available if you're training the other stuff too.
01:49:01.000And so then they get to this, like Pereira, they get to this super high level at this one thing, and then they incorporate the other stuff.
01:49:08.000But that other level, you're not going to catch them.
01:49:11.000You're not going to catch Protez when it comes to Muay Thai.
01:49:13.000That step in fucking tomahawk elbow that he does, holy shit, dude.
01:49:18.000And he's playing, and he smokes Marlboro's, and he drinks.
01:52:53.000I said this, maybe I caught some flack.
01:52:55.000For it a little bit, but I said, like, look, I think the Ian Gary fight and the Protest fight for Islam, both those fights, I'm not saying they're easy fights because they're not, but you put someone like a Sean Brady against Islam, and that becomes a little bit more difficult.
01:53:14.000When you look at someone's style comparatively, it can be one person is easy for someone, they're very difficult for someone else.
01:53:21.000If you're going to put someone against Islam as far as it's going to be on the ground with him and give him difficult, Times there's not a big enough sample size for me with Michael Morales.
01:53:31.000I think Michael Morales could be a big threat on the feet, the wrestling.
01:53:34.000People are going to say, Well, he beat Sean Brady, so obviously, but the size I think of Michael Morales will give Islam some problems as well.
01:53:42.000Michael Morales can wrestle, yeah, right?
01:53:44.000It's not like he's an Ecuadorian national champ, I think, is what he was.
01:53:47.000And then you know, he's obviously got power, athletic, super athletic.
01:53:50.000Islam doesn't do the normal wrestling, nope, his takedowns are different.
01:53:53.000Yep, he's a lot of foot sweeps, a lot of judo, a lot of difference in the way he does things, and world championship experience, yes, and also the.
01:57:11.000Yeah, there's a lot of talented guys that will come out of other promotions, but I'd love to see Jason Jackson in there mixing it up with those guys.
01:57:18.000Because stylistically, the matchups are there with Pratis and Gary and the 170s.
01:57:47.000I mean, you just why, the last takedown, you know when he, when he airboarded him, oh my god, and you look at me and but Look at the ease that he did it with.
01:58:27.000Took Edward down three times, national champ out of Penn State.
01:58:31.000I mean, he was having success against him.
01:58:33.000It was a very close fight, you know, and he ended up winning the fight, but it was one of those fights where you're like, Dan, you walked away going, This guy can wrestle.
01:58:59.000There's a lot of guys that I would love to see to kind of mix in because every time, because when you look at the history of the sport, you got like Strike Force when it came into UFC, those were the best fights.
01:59:11.000I'm not saying that a lot of these guys need to come in right now, but you If you can pluck one or two guys for each division, it's all it takes to mix things up.
01:59:16.000It's all it takes to loosen this whole thing up.
01:59:17.000Because for a little bit before the Paramount deal happened, you know, because I cover it every fight every week, right?
02:00:50.000And you look and you go, This is the difference between, you know, that first fight in the UFC and wanting to do so well and wanting to prove how good you are and stuff, and then finally relaxing and just, hey, let the fight come to me.
02:01:03.000Let me show what I can do and taking those moments when you get them.
02:01:06.000That's what he did in his fight against Patricio.
02:04:54.000He's trying to put him back in the same position when Joe's kind of just losing his steam and getting pissed off.
02:05:00.000And so, you know, I look and say, look, if you're going to be that pissed off, it's a good thing you're not fighting because you don't fight smart and you're going to end up getting hurt.
02:05:31.000Okay, so that's where it should be started.
02:05:34.000But he never gave Beltran the actual ability and time to say, no, no, put your hand here.
02:05:39.000And you can see Beltran starts to, you know, as Abana starts to try to put his hands on the biceps, Beltran's starting to put them underneath.
02:05:48.000You don't want to go back to the ground.
02:05:51.000Uh, you know, that's the real question, and in you know, all I know is at 42 years of age, you know, you're looking and saying, you know, Joe Schilling can fight.
02:05:59.000You know, Joe Schilling, he was a gangster, no doubt about it.
02:06:03.000And he, at this point, is you know, is he looking to become a champion?
02:06:09.000No, he's not looking to be a champion.
02:06:11.000So, I'm taking the fight for what reason for money.
02:06:14.000And so, I think he just looked at it, and based upon, well, this is not what I expected.
02:06:18.000I expected a fair fight, I expected us to, you know, fight like professionals, and this dipshit is now headbutting me.
02:06:24.000He just got pissed and he lost his cool with it.
02:06:26.000And when he wasn't being put back right away into that same position where he thought the guy is now trying to up again, take another advantage, it just sent him off the end and he said, I'm done.
02:10:30.000But the whole thing with the Mike Perry thing is trying to get athletic commissions to start to understand because they're all into this thing.
02:14:24.000But their whole thing was, well, that would allow the sponsor to say that they're basically part of California and they're running, they're doing things for California.
02:14:32.000It's like they are doing things for California.
02:14:34.000They're helping the people that fucking put on fucking entertaining fights and things for people here.
02:14:47.000I just did a whole thing for, you know, Heath Flora, who's an assemblyman there, and he's putting up a bill about you being able to, If you protect somebody other than yourself and from somebody that's trying to do something, he's trying to make it to where they can't civilly go after you.
02:15:40.000When I saw it was only $60 million, I was like, that sounds like a lot of money until you think about putting on an MMA promotion and then getting television production and then paying fighters and then securing venues and then having staff full time for like, maybe.
02:17:02.000But it's the whole thing, and you're part of it.
02:17:04.000You know, What you did with the UFC and how you made it exciting for people when you were calling fights.
02:17:10.000You know, it's a people now, a lot of them, they don't even know the fighters that are on the card, but they'll turn it on when it says UFC because they believe in the product.
02:17:20.000And that's what you're supposed to do as the company and for marketing.
02:17:24.000But the one problem I do think they have right now is they're unable to market people like they did when you and I were early in it and stuff.
02:17:32.000You know, they now are in a position every week.
02:22:59.000I mean, there's been a bunch of them now.
02:23:01.000Now you see a lot of front kicks to the face because it's such an unexpected thing, especially if a guy's, you know, you're getting hit to the body with it a bunch and you're getting used to doing this, and then donk, it hits you right on the chin.
02:23:13.000It's just such an unexpected technique.
02:23:16.000Every time we think that we're not going to see something new, something new pops up.
02:23:19.000But the crazy thing about front kicks is it's literally the first thing you ever get taught.
02:35:32.000And look, Rick Perry, God bless him, because if it wasn't for him getting behind it, that changed everybody's opinion.
02:35:37.000Here you have this Republican, former governor of Texas, who's talking about it and then talking about his own personal experiences doing it.
02:35:45.000So, him and Brian Hubbard, I mean, they really went all out.
02:35:49.000And when I had them on my podcast, not once but twice, to talk about this and the state of it where it's being passed in Texas, they got $100 million from Ken Paxton.
02:37:53.000I was a police officer for 23 years, okay?
02:37:56.000I've been out there with them, and you have people that, you know, they have serious problems, you know, and I understand, you know, the ACLU and stuff, they, oh, it's not right to put them.
02:38:06.000No, it's better for them and it's better for the people that are out on the street just trying to live their lives to have that person be put into a place where they can receive some medication, receive some help and try to get them back than it is to let these people just rot on the street and self-destruct.
02:38:27.000And I'm watching it and it's like, how is that so hard to figure out that it's better to do something with them than it is to just let them be?
02:38:47.000And this is unfortunately a lot of these Democrats run cities.
02:38:50.000I owned a couple of gyms in San Jose and it was Tent City.
02:38:53.000And along the highway, like leading up to my gym, along the road that led up to my gym, all those things.
02:38:58.000But you would see they were stealing solar panels from people's houses and they would put them up on the sidewall so they could charge their cell phones.
02:39:06.000Like they're smart enough to do these things, right?
02:40:35.000Well, I just saw something that I can't remember who it was, but they continue to talk about, you know, let's keep taxing the billionaires, keep taxing the billionaires.
02:40:46.000So, why don't we just not tax the people that make under $200,000?
02:40:50.000That's actually something Jeff Bezos brought up.
02:40:53.000He said, you should, the bottom 50%, the people that make the least amount of money, don't tax them at all.
02:40:59.000He goes, because they're not contributing that much to the tax base anyway, and they would contribute more to the economy if they had more money.
02:41:26.000Well, why don't you just raise my capital gains tax so I don't got to, my wife and I or whatever, we can pay like less on that versus that $500,000 threshold.
02:42:02.000If you were doing a great job with the money and everything was accounted for and there was no fraud and waste, I'd be like, well, maybe you just need more money.