00:01:10.000I was expecting to have like an internal sense of relief that, like, I don't have something to chase because I was always chasing this belt.
00:01:20.000And I was expecting to wake up with like some kind of natural release of pressure, but I don't know.
00:02:16.000You know, I've done things the wrong way, but I've always corrected and got back on the path.
00:02:20.000And, you know, I think the coaches, the mentors, but mostly the coaches that I've been, you know, and the team that I have around me is a huge reason why I was able to stay on track and just keep moving forward and keep trusting that, you know, I belong in the top of the league.
00:02:41.000Well, you've clearly shown it throughout your career.
00:02:44.000And, Having a great coach like Trevor, and one of the reasons why I wanted to bring you in, Trevor, is because you guys have a very unique relationship.
00:02:50.000First of all, I love the YouTube series, The Art of Violence, fantastic.
00:02:55.000And what's great is watching you two guys work together, and Trevor, you being very acutely aware of when to pull them back, when to ramp it up, when to push.
00:03:05.000Like, you guys, having a relationship like that is so critical because you guys know each other so well.
00:03:13.000You've seen him perform so many times, you've seen him fight and perform in the gym.
00:03:17.000That you know where he's at all the time.
00:03:20.000And having that sense of where your fighter is at any given time in camp because you know him so well, boy, that's a giant advantage.
00:03:36.000Yeah, I think that's a huge advantage knowing your athlete.
00:03:41.000And, you know, I've been doing this for a long period of time, but there's lots of coaches out there that consider their fighters their friends.
00:03:49.000One of my best friends, but I put myself more in a father position of I need to know when to tell them the truth.
00:03:55.000And I've got myself in trouble with that with fighters where you tell them the truth so hard that you have to let them go like a child, like, hey, if we're not on the same beliefs, go live life and see how it is.
00:04:05.000And then when you return, I'm still going to love you.
00:04:08.000Having that type of thing where I have to be dead honest for your career, not because it helps us now and it feels good right now at the moment.
00:04:16.000I have to look at that from the time that we start and we talk about what are his goals.
00:04:25.000Be an advisor, be a mentor to get him to that place as best as I can because these are his goals and I want to support those.
00:04:32.000And in the beginning of his career, his goals were to be the most violent guy out there, the most remembered, the guy that every time someone bought a ticket, they remembered Justin Gaetje selling that show.
00:04:44.000And then it turned into, no, I want to have this belt.
00:04:46.000And that was hard because we did go and not get the belt twice.
00:04:51.000And, you know, it's so cool to be in kind of those scenarios where it's like, Dan, you had two opportunities.
00:05:36.000Even like Ilya, Ilya is a special guy with how he uses his mental.
00:05:40.000The secret, if I see it, I believe it, it'll happen to a point.
00:05:46.000You know, it's like, I always tell people if you go down the ice cream aisle and you're like, hey, I don't know what ice cream I want, you're going to stand there and go, oh, that one looks good.
00:05:55.000But the people that are like, I want mint chocolate chip, you get in there, you get it done, you grab that mint chocolate chip and you walk out.
00:06:00.000Very similar to Ilya's last three fights.
00:06:02.000He went out there and he demanded what he wanted, his confidence got him through that.0.99
00:06:07.000But it makes it very hard when you get that stale, nasty, rotten milk, fucking mint chocolate chip.1.00
00:06:12.000Because you start to go, oh shit, what is going to happen now?1.00
00:06:15.000So I think the relationship that we have is me guiding him, me pulling him back at the strictly situation.0.99
00:06:32.000Like our relationship is so strong, and I need that with my athletes.
00:06:34.000And I'm just blessed and 100, you know, I say honored, but more importantly, humbled.
00:06:42.000By someone who I've never worked mental with, who shows me different ways to the mental game of fighting, which I feel I'm very high level with, is it's something that if you put yourself around people that make you better, this guy makes me better daily, and I'm very grateful for that.
00:06:58.000You said something about Ilya, about the fight, about having expectations.
00:07:04.000And you said you don't have any expectations when you fight.
00:07:14.000My expectations come from my hard work.
00:07:16.000Obviously, I expect my body to perform.
00:07:20.000I understand that I've trained my mind to, and you know, maybe the narcissistic tendencies in me love showing off and performing in front of, you know, thousands of people on that stage.
00:07:36.000That's what I love the most about this.
00:07:39.000And that's what my personality is like I'm very competitive.
00:07:45.000And that's how I've never had a coach.
00:07:49.000in my entire career, since four years old of wrestling, have to pull me aside and talk about the mental aspect of competition because it's always been so natural to me.
00:08:02.000I'm not sure if it's because they see that I'm doing good and that they agree with my approach mentally or they don't understand what's going on.
00:08:15.000But I've just always been so comfortable and so content with.
00:08:19.000My situation of, you know, this is a competition, it's a game.
00:08:24.000You know, I'm very competitive, I'm very petty, I take everything personal.
00:08:28.000And yeah, when I go in there with X, I have gone in with expectations.
00:08:34.000And it's, I said it before the fight, you know, Ali, like I said so many true things to him.
00:08:40.000And I think it was such an asset to tell someone the brutal truth, especially someone like him, because it pushes them farther away from the truth.
00:08:48.000You know, even if I tell him the exact truth and, Exactly what's going to happen, and you know, you're making a mistake by having all these expectations.
00:08:56.000And when we go to round two and when we go to round three, and it's not going as you predicted it or wanted it to or expected it to, then where do you go from there?
00:09:04.000And you know, I said that exact thing to him, and then that pushed him farther away from it.
00:09:08.000And you know, I it's almost like he wanted to prove you wrong, yeah.
00:09:13.000He wanted to prove himself right, yeah, you know, and he was unwilling to be open to opinions.
00:09:19.000And because obviously, I don't know him, he knows him better than himself, but you know, I uh, I I got here because I am coachable.
00:09:26.000I use every, like I posted yesterday, every person, place, or thing that has happened to me or for me has ultimately molded my mind and my body to be able to deal with the situation that happened on Sunday night.
00:09:41.000And, you know, I can pull so much experience from the past my losses, my wins, setbacks, failures, accomplishments.
00:09:50.000I mean, there is so much to learn from it.
00:09:52.000You know, every day is a learning experience.
00:09:55.000And I. Constantly try to learn and be better.
00:09:58.000And I don't know why I'm able to perform like that.
00:10:06.000You know, when I say I wanted to be the most exciting fighter ever, it's not that I wanted to be the most exciting fighter ever.
00:10:13.000The thought of that was fucking cool to me, you know, but I was just being me.
00:10:20.000And I've been blessed to be able to, you know, through my childhood, through coming from a small town, through having, you know, Unwavering support from my family and my friends and my coaches and my teachers and everybody from, you know, it's just crazy to be able to come out on top.
00:12:02.000But when I went down, it's always easy to make these decisions in hindsight.
00:12:07.000But when I went down, he's had way more submissions than he has knockouts.
00:12:14.000And so for him not to have that belief that he's going to be able to go down there, especially with the Khabib fight, especially with the Charles Olavera fight.0.82
00:12:20.000Especially with all the negativity around my grappling, I think he would have been foolish not to.
00:13:27.000Yeah, the, the, the, The two body shots before that, that left hook to deliver, that the sound it made was crazy.
00:13:33.000That last one was clean, it was precise and deep, but you could tell it was already there.
00:13:39.000But if he didn't put that pressure on himself, and this is what I mean by mistake, is like when you come out, you have to know that you're going five rounds.
00:13:46.000And he knew that he had to unleash everything right there.
00:13:50.000If he would have been smart in that scenario, saying, Hey, we got five rounds, let me step back a little bit, let me do some damage.
00:13:56.000But also, he's like, Hey, let me get you out of there quick.
00:13:58.000Justin, you know, can't grapple, can't do all these things, which a lot of people think, which Justin's a great grappler.
00:14:04.000And what was so smart about you is when you get tired, that's where the worst decisions happen.
00:14:11.000That's one of my big things as coaching we get someone tired and then we make them make bad decisions and then we capitalize on those mistakes.
00:14:18.000Justin was able to stay so composed here with being speared to the body.
00:14:23.000And when you take a liver shot, it is way different than the headshot.
00:14:26.000A headshot's like taking a shot with your buddies at the bar.
00:14:28.000It's like, hey, let's go, you know, but you take a body shot.0.99
00:14:34.000And Justin, all the decisions he made on the ground from the triangle, from the arm bar, from not being flat, so many good decisions were made in that scenario.
00:14:45.000Obviously, there's so many different ways it could go, but those type of moments in fights are what make fights great overcoming obstacles.
00:15:15.000Some of the biggest mistakes that I've made with fighters that I had is allowing them to think that they're going to go through this fight easy.
00:15:21.000And then that fight becomes super hard.
00:15:23.000You think it's going to be a war, then you're like, hey, it wasn't as bad as I was expected.
00:15:25.000Even if it was a little bit of a war, you're not going to help them in that moment.
00:15:57.000And that was the big story of that second round that you figured out a way to get through it.0.95
00:16:01.000And the change in tempo in the third round was very obvious because the sprint that you have to make, like what Ilya did when he was trying to finish you, he used so much fucking energy.
00:16:13.000And the great Chael Sonnen once said that if you try to win by knockout and fail, you won't win by submission.0.69
00:16:20.000And a lot of times that's the case because you know, as good as anybody, if you fucking sprint it hard, you wail in the bag with fucking everything you got for two minutes.0.98
00:17:04.000I mean, that's a young man with a tremendous amount of confidence because he's a two division world champion and he thinks he's going to go down as the greatest of all time.
00:18:34.000Just that alone, just the orbitals alone, like anytime you've got eye injuries, like anything severe with your eyes, long term consequences vary.
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00:21:01.000I've had my eyes fixed and my nose fixed, and my nose was better for quality of life.0.99
00:21:08.000Obviously, being able to see was huge, but when your nose is broken, like, you have to understand, like, Getting a haircut fucking sucks.0.98
00:21:55.000He actually fractured the bone up top, so I didn't have to get a face.
00:21:58.000It's another factor that when we were talking about the fight, and people were talking about this matchup with Ilya, I said, you have to think about what he did to Faziv.
00:22:09.000Faziv is a super talented striker.0.98
00:22:12.000And then you also have to think about the Max Holloway fight because he was pressing in the first round, but he got caught with a jump spinning back kick to the fucking face.0.96
00:22:20.000And when that was, that's a game changer.0.95
00:22:23.000And it happened at the end of the first round.
00:22:25.000And from that, it changed the tone of the fight because it was just dead on.
00:26:01.000Another mistake was, you know, winning two or three times in a row and just kind of becoming complacent with how serious what we do is and how dangerous this game is.
00:26:14.000And how much luck and chance are a factor every single night.
00:26:19.000And so, you know, I wasn't doing the extra credit.
00:26:22.000I wasn't sitting in the sauna at home, you know, and I don't know.
00:26:27.000It's just, and I made that mistake probably into the Eddie Alvarez, Dustin Poirier fights, lost, and then I won three or four in a row.
00:27:23.000The way that I did it, the way that I lost, the way that I stayed on track, the way that I threatened retirement if I wasn't going to get a title shot, the way I called my shots along the way, then the discipline I had.
00:28:10.000And then I watched it, and then I was a diehard fan.
00:28:13.000I've been a diehard fan ever since then.
00:28:15.000And especially in 2001 when it came along, I was probably in seventh or eighth grade, sixth or seventh grade, and just fell in love with it.
00:28:21.000And then me and Carl going into college, we'd go and sit at Buffalo Wild Wings for six, seven, eight hours, spend $5.
00:28:31.000It's just amazing that you've been able to keep this ferocious mentality for so long.0.79
00:28:37.000Because I remember when you first entered into the UFC, the Michael Johnson fight, I was so pumped for it because I was like, get ready because this is going to be fucking wild.
00:28:45.000Because I had been a fan of yours when you were fighting, what was it, World Series of Fighting?
00:28:48.000And then that Michael Johnson fight was everything that I thought it would be.0.98
00:30:58.000I think people just complicate things so much.
00:31:00.000Like, when you can truly understand that there is things you can't control, but it's not everything, you can only control what's inside of you.
00:31:10.000You know, you can only control how you perceive things.
00:31:17.000But it's, I mean, there's so much, you know, and I guess I always knew that something was coming because no matter how far off the road, you know, like I've made mistakes.
00:31:33.000You know, I've done, I was never an alcoholic.
00:32:01.000A big part of that is helping people come off drugs.
00:32:03.000And I lost many, over a handful of friends, really close friends from drugs.
00:32:09.000Where I come from, we're not far from Mexico, and we had the best.0.99
00:32:12.000We had the best shit coming right across the border before I ever got cut up.0.99
00:32:19.000And it was, It was my life, you know, where I'm from is very boring.1.00
00:32:23.000And so, like, you chase again, you know, we have it so good in this country.
00:32:26.000We're always trying to create chaos in order to feel something.
00:32:30.000And I guess that's what I was probably doing.
00:32:34.000And in college is when I really, you know, I was like, if I'm going to help people come off of drugs, then how can I ever even try to understand if I don't know what they're chasing?
00:33:21.000I mean, I've been, my parents, the best thing they ever did for me was make me go to church every single Sunday.
00:33:29.000Create a relationship with God through the word of Jesus Christ and just trying to live up to those expectations.
00:33:40.000Um, I knew not that I was going to be a champion or anything, I just knew that I couldn't take the easy way out.
00:33:48.000You know, um, when you're on drugs or when you're living a lifestyle like that, then nobody expects anything from you, nobody wants anything from you, and that's the easy way to live, you know.
00:34:14.000I just think the passion to live because of my faith has never outweighed my desire to feel good.
00:34:25.000I want to talk about the shift that you made in your career from being the most exciting guy in the world.
00:34:32.000Wanting to be the most exciting guy in the world, being happy with performing to the best of your ability, whether you win or lose, to wanting to get the belt.
00:36:34.000Then he goes on a three fight win streak where he's finding the right spots and putting people out from Vic to Barbosa into Cowboy Cerrone.
00:36:42.000Then that's where he's like, and then I sat down with him and I was like, Do you want to be a champion?
00:36:47.000And I was like, this is how you have to fight to be a champion, is be smart.
00:36:52.000And he never said he didn't want to be the most excited fighter anymore.
00:36:56.000He would tell me after fights, he's like, I'm not even trying to fight excited, but look at me.0.94
00:37:00.000And it's like, fucking, like, it's so amazing.0.98
00:37:03.000It's just, how do we get you to sprint 50 yards, pull back for 100 yards and jog, and then sprint for 50 yards and, like, be able to know your red line?
00:37:38.000Yeah, it looks like I'm getting hit, it looks like it's a but I mean, my I don't have special skin, I am able to see punches and roll with them and roll with punches.
00:37:50.000If you watch my you know fights frame by frame, I'm not getting hit.
00:37:54.000For the most part, you're moving with the punches.
00:38:49.000Like, Justin Hits, unlike any, he still, I still think to this day, we got to ask the UFC, but they did a test on him to see who has the hardest bones of the UFC.
00:39:25.000She looks at me like, what the fuck you got blue balls from Justin for?1.00
00:39:30.000One of the things you were doing early in your career that I always thought was so wild was you were leg kicking people from a collar tie.1.00
00:39:38.000I'm like, how come no one's doing that?
00:39:40.000Like, you were one of the only guys that I saw that was doing that, that was from the clinch, was leg kicking.0.98
00:39:46.000You've got some fucking flexible hips, man.0.97
00:39:49.000Because the way you're able to do that from like right in tight like this and then, and not just throw the leg out, you're whipping in there.0.99
00:39:56.000Yeah, he pulls them to their lead leg.
00:40:20.000It was amazing because seeing all those videos and knowing he's in camp with you all the time and knowing how much he loves you, watching the happiness that he had when you won was fucking incredible.0.52
00:40:30.000No, Luke is one of my really, really good friends.0.88
00:40:56.000So, there was one time, I think it was in the cowboy fight, where you were pummeling with Ben, and he'd finish with a low kick on Ben every time, and I'm like, stop kicking your coach.1.00
00:41:05.000And he looks at me, he's like, Trevor, he used to drag me back on the mats.
00:50:42.000We were just watching you look at the Declaration of Independence before you walked out, which is also wild.
00:50:48.000Like, this is never going to happen again.
00:50:50.000This is more historic than Rumble in the Jungle, more historic than.
00:50:54.000I mean, think about all the great fights that we've all watched as kids that were like, remember that?
00:51:01.000This tops everything because of the scene, because of the fact that not only is it at the White House, but the American who's a six to one on some books underdog pulls it off in spectacular fashion.
00:51:15.000And just the seesaw of the fight was huge.
00:51:17.000The back and forth of the fight was fucking huge because the second round was crazy.0.94
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00:54:16.000I mean, it's crazy how different it is.0.93
00:54:17.000So, again, being a fan of the sport, I've got to watch, you know, I would have usually watched this from, and yeah, it would have been the most fucking incredible thing ever.
00:54:25.000Being the fighter, you know, you're really not appreciating any of that because you're so locked into it's like golfing, like you don't know, but golfing is like certain swing thoughts, you know, and nothing else can come in, nothing can creep in.
00:54:40.000And so, me looking at the Declaration of Independence, I was looking at it, but I didn't take it in as this being the Declaration.
00:54:48.000I was sitting there, I was like, okay, gotta reset his feet, gotta control, gotta move left, gotta move left, can't get against the fence.
00:54:56.000And those are the thoughts I'm having through the whole walkout.
00:55:00.000And so I'm really not taking any of it in as the show or as the theatrics of it.
00:55:28.000The feeling of joy throughout the building, throughout the grounds, the happiness that everybody had seen had been there to see such an incredible event and such an amazing cap to that event with your fight.
00:57:23.000But, I mean, my coach is a fucking genius.0.98
00:57:27.000I mean, when it comes to, like, again, it's really hard to.0.99
00:57:31.000You always sound right in hindsight, but.
00:57:33.000The strategy we had was so perfect to fight a guy like that.
00:57:38.000I mean, I think if you ask him right now which way was Justin moving, he's going to think I was moving right the whole time because my head is so heavy and I lean over to that side.
00:57:50.000But I was moving left the entire time.
00:57:54.000And he's so pointed that he's powerful here.
00:57:58.000But when you put him here, nobody can push and sprint.
00:58:03.000He's not ever going to take off sprinting.
00:59:46.000He'll blitz past you in almost like running type of punches, like old Vitor Belfort.
00:59:50.000But this fight is a lot different where it's now elbows in.
00:59:55.000We have to be tight in these types of positions, and we need to step to his center and get on his back foot line or outside of his back foot line.
01:00:02.000And that was like a key factor to this one, is because Ilya is very front heavy and will bounce back and forth.
01:00:07.000So once he goes to this angle, we need to attack the rear shoulder.
01:00:10.000And once he starts to reset, now we're going to be able to jab and stick the jab at the rear shoulder where your jab was landing.
01:00:16.000There's my favorite part the jab wasn't landing here where Ilya's got a very good slide.
01:00:58.000And that, because he's got a high shoulder.
01:01:00.000If I'm throwing a right hand down this point, if you were looking at me, Joe, if I'm here, if he gets his foot out, now the shot is coming from here.
01:01:08.000So we're able to put him on the back foot and find that over.
01:01:10.000Because the alien's got a very good shoulder tack.
01:03:54.000And he, this dude, he would catch things so fast in his tumbling.
01:03:59.000There was one time we were watching him, and he was in moguls, and moguls suck on a snowboard.
01:04:02.000He does this 360, catches his edge, falls to his back, and bounces off one of the moguls to a backflip right back into the moguls and through these people on the side.1.00
01:04:11.000I thought he meant to do that shit.1.00
01:04:24.000You know, there's guys that have less body fat than you and guys have more prominent muscles than you, but nobody looks at you fighting and doesn't think you're athletic.
01:04:32.000I think it's the experts after the paddy fight saying, oh, he looks sloppy.
01:05:10.000But that's also probably a good thing that you think about yourself that way, you know, because it forces you to rise above and beyond anybody's expectations of you.
01:05:22.000You know, and I think one of the things about this fight that makes it so important is because Ilya was so dangerous.
01:07:47.000And in that situation, losing that fight in the last second of the last round and having that reaction, that is the truest test of character that that man is ever going to go through.
01:08:21.000Once it happened for probably, I'd say you probably asked it six or seven times.
01:08:24.000And then once we were cool for probably five minutes before we went to the hospital, they were totally cool.
01:08:30.000The cool part about this, Joe, is those are some of my, and it sucks because he's taking a shot like this, but me as a coach and as someone that just loves fighting and loves the inspiration and what these guys do, is those are my proudest moments.
01:08:45.000Winning a fight like this, it was proud.
01:08:47.000And, you know, take it in, you're going, wow.
01:08:49.000This is a cool spot to be in, and you have to be grateful for it.
01:08:52.000But there's times where I'm caught smiling when my fighters are down, like when Kamaro got kicked, and I stood next to him with the biggest smile just because I'm like, dude, you went out on your shield.
01:09:20.000And he fights through it a little bit and takes another knee and he goes down and he's on the ground and his right leg is still like moving and he's like still punching and he's out.
01:09:29.000And I'm like, dude, that's a fighting spirit.
01:09:32.000Like, you're fighting through being knocked out.
01:09:35.000And subconsciously, he's still in the fight and his body is still reacting that way instead of shelling up and being like, I just got rocked.
01:13:37.000And I want to get some expert, some doctor who can actually talk to me about this.
01:13:42.000Because when I started researching boxing and why there are so many deaths in boxing, what stood out to me was almost every death in boxing in the last.
01:13:54.000There's every once in a while from a punch where they get dropped and they don't get up and they get hemorrhaging.
01:14:00.000Almost all of them are past the ninth round, especially the ones I'm talking about that don't take a punch.
01:14:05.000They're past the ninth round and it looks like they start to get tired and they're just like, hey, I need to take a knee and lay down.
01:14:11.000A lot of these guys are winning the fight and not even taking a lot of damage.
01:14:16.000And if we're cutting weight the day before, you're teaching your body to sweat and sweat and sweat.
01:14:22.000To me, I believe because I've had a fighter where, you know, Kamal in his last fight, we were crapping so bad, so scary, so freaking scary.
01:14:50.000But if you go back and look at all the boxers, and if we can get someone that could do their true research that understands this stuff, that to me is like what scares me about weight cutting because you're training your body to lose that amount of weight.
01:15:00.000And when you start to do things in patterns, you just took all the nutrients out of your body and then you're going hard in a fight like that.
01:15:07.000And that was like the big thing with the Tony Ferguson fight that's kind of funny now, but it wasn't.
01:20:23.000But that's why you can be happy for other people.
01:20:26.000To exceed your expectations from 2017, to exceed his expectations from 2011, to exceed my own expectations is I mean, I cannot describe how special and how good that makes me feel.
01:22:43.000And then, you know, when I did make the comment about his wife, you know, it was in an interview like this where we were just fucking around.0.97
01:22:59.000I was like, he's so fucking annoying.0.96
01:23:00.000I couldn't imagine being in the same room with him, you know, with.0.98
01:23:06.000His pompous attitude, you know, and you just trying to like hang out with the guy, but he's like constantly stealing all the thunder and it's irrational.
01:23:44.000I told him that he's going to go to the second round, go to the third round.0.99
01:23:47.000You're going to be fucked because you're not going to be able to pull yourself out of this.0.98
01:23:51.000You know, with the way that you're thinking, there's no possible way you can have these expectations, face adversity, and then come out in a positive way.1.00
01:26:07.000And enjoy being the champion for a little bit.
01:26:09.000And you need to look at yourself in the mirror and be like, there's times to sit back and have bliss where you're like, man, I freaking did it.
01:27:59.000I wish people that were opposite of me that asked for things and get all kinds of things, I wish I was given those things without asking because obviously people know that it's appreciated and I like it.0.81
01:28:10.000But I'm not ever going to, like, I'm not taking this truck from fucking Armin.
01:28:13.000There's absolutely no way I would take a truck.0.98
01:33:20.000Yes, it's all agility, and that translates so brilliantly to his striking style because you've got a guy who's 248 pounds who moves like a middleweight or moves like even lighter than that.
01:33:30.000I mean, he really moves like a welterweight almost.
01:33:35.000And when you notice it, it's like, because you know how good Pereira is, and Pereira getting lit up on his feet like that and then drop with a jab.
01:35:05.000It's not like he committed to those, but he's got them thinking about it.
01:35:07.000Look at how he drops them with the back of the jack.
01:35:09.000Now, here's the question because one of the things that Pereira is saying is a lot of the shots were illegal into the back of the head, but a lot of them were to the side of the head.
01:36:42.000Maybe he could have taken one or two more after that for sure.
01:36:45.000But Pereira is pissed off at Herb Dean, and he's saying Herb Dean should never referee again because he allowed those shots to the back of the head.
01:37:36.000When I fought Michael Chandler, I'm still, and again, I only speak about it now because I've never had a retraction.
01:37:45.000From the referee, whenever he poked me in the eye and then he didn't get in between us and he let him hit me with a huge shot, and then he doesn't give me my time to rest, not rest, to recover.
01:38:00.000And there was only five seconds left in the round, so it turned out that I got a break anyways.
01:38:05.000But he goes in there, he says, Are you good?
01:38:40.000And so, like, after the fact, I was like, I need you to acknowledge this so that you do not ever let that happen to another athlete in there because you fucked up so bad.0.99
01:38:49.000And, you know, he's trying to justify it.1.00
01:38:52.000And it's like, what the fuck are you doing?0.99
01:42:44.000People think the best that's how he, the best thing up to this moment is people, people don't give me credit for my intellectual abilities.
01:42:56.000I've also played into that and I've also understood how big of an asset it is for people to approach me like that.
01:43:02.000You know, thinking that I'm just some animal that doesn't think or feel or whatever, whatever people think or think I'm retarded.
01:43:10.000Well, I think what it is is when you are such an animal, people think you can't be smart because a smart person would be aware of the consequences and wouldn't have the courage to fight the way you fight.
01:43:21.000And people who don't have that kind of courage, they like to dismiss people that fight like savages because they go, well, savages can't be smart.
01:45:55.000Yeah, but the thing is, you're asking for the perceptions from people that you would probably never fucking talk to in real life because they're dumb and annoying.0.99
01:46:03.000And those are the people that are most likely going to comment.0.99
01:46:08.000You think Michael Jordan's out there leaving YouTube comments?
01:46:14.000People who are really dialed in and really fucking disciplined, and the people whose opinions you'd respect, they're not leaving comments.0.98
01:46:22.000They're certainly not leaving shitty comments.0.98
01:46:38.000You're a kid, or you're a dumbass.1.00
01:46:40.000You don't have your life together yet.1.00
01:46:41.000But that's the type, you can't listen to them and take that as gospel because it's just not.
01:46:45.000Just seeing him walk through the airport and just.
01:46:48.000Everybody's perception when they see you and meet you is so great, dude.
01:46:52.000Like, it's like people that like, like, bro, the haters, you, yeah, the haters met you, they're like, bro, I'm a big fan, yeah, but still, but it's, but one of those things is like the inspiration on people, like, everybody comes up and they're your favorite fighter, like, I have the brand that you're the, the, your favorite fighter, favorite fighter, like, that is unique, yeah, that is like such a cool thing, like, you just keep inspiring and very proud of it, be you, you should be, should be so proud, you should be, yeah.
01:47:20.000So, I asked you after the fight if you were going to fight again.
01:47:23.000You said you promised your mom you weren't going to make a decision.
01:47:54.000You know, it'll never be that chaos again because it'll never be like fighter jet flyovers and it's hard to understand how dangerous this game is if you don't do it.
01:51:55.000Not only that, it's a combat sport that's acceptable in high school.
01:51:59.000Like, it's a combat sport that you take in junior high school, you take in high school, and kids learn.
01:52:04.000Like, there's guys out there that are different.
01:52:06.000They're working harder than you, they're more aggressive than you, they want it more than you, they put in more time than you.
01:52:13.000And that's a lesson that's very valuable because kids.
01:52:18.000Get delusional about what their abilities are, how special they are, who they are.0.97
01:52:22.000When you get fucking flatlined by some dude who just fucking picks you up and slams you on your back and pins you, and you're like, and he can do it anytime he wants.0.97
01:52:29.000And this is the reality of training with this guy, like over and over and over again.0.99
01:53:23.000Like, I've had the luck to be able to train some high level guys lately, and I don't have to deal with any shit.0.80
01:53:29.000Like, you know, and it's if I hold myself accountable, then there's we don't have to have these deep conversations or get our feelings hurt that we're just true to it.0.74
01:53:36.000His accountability for everything is just there's nothing like it.
01:53:42.000His parents are just such amazing people.
01:53:44.000And the way that they had raised him to hold, you know, because he screwed up a lot as a kid.
01:53:48.000I told him if we were hanging out when we were younger, we had a lot of trouble because he reminded me of myself, super hyper, like, Like making super bad decisions, but getting punished, getting grounded, getting not being able to go out late at night, like strict parents, and that being able to understand that there are rules in life and you have to be accountable.
01:54:04.000If you screw up, you got to deal with the punishment.
01:54:07.000And that is, it comes from your parents.
01:54:15.000So, my mindset has always, since I was a kid, I have looked up.
01:54:18.000So, the reason I take comments online and I read them, I've always looked up and given every single person I've ever interacted with the benefit of the doubt of being good.
01:54:32.000And whether it's what they're saying, what they're doing, their actions, Everybody's been my role model.
01:54:38.000I've never, never looked at myself as a role model.
01:54:41.000I've always looked at whether, no matter what, even strangers, like I trust that they're good.
01:54:49.000And that's where I start everywhere from.
01:54:54.000And so reading comments online, like I truly take into account what I'm reading, you know, and I don't know why, because I know it doesn't matter a lot of the times.0.90
01:55:04.000A lot of these probably fucking 13, 14 year old kids, but in my mind, they're 50 year old kids.
01:55:10.000You know, men with experience, and I just try to use as much and as much of the readily available information, comments, words, action as I can from a place of, like, I feel like a child in a sense when it comes to interacting with people.0.98
01:55:28.000And I don't know why that's how I take it or that's how I do it, but it makes everything, you know, a little bit better.
01:55:34.000And I'm not as disappointed as much because, like, once I learn that they're not that, or they're not good, and they can't help me, then.
01:55:42.000I don't be like, oh, that's a bad person.
01:55:44.000I'm just like, okay, I'm not going to have that experience again.
01:58:58.000But uh, you know, from that first position that we were in, a lot of things happened.
01:59:03.000Uh, in a great thing, I always told you it was going to be timing, timing's everything, and uh.
01:59:07.000They did the right thing and tried to make what we had spoken about.
01:59:11.000You know, we had an NDA and we had a five year, and they moved it to a two year.
01:59:16.000Took a lot of great notes, and I'm very grateful to be a part of those because they did go out there and use a lot of the ideas that I had, but they just couldn't do it to the level that I could do it.
01:59:25.000And I thought it was super cool that they were trying because it's a problem that they don't really see and understand.
01:59:31.000So I think they're in the right mindset, and, you know, them helping the athletes I thought was a great, great thing to do.
01:59:38.000But during that time, when I was going to talk to you, I actually brought the gloves, and it was when you were fighting on 300.
01:59:45.000We were out there, and I had a new patent that I had been working on.
01:59:48.000So we could go an opposite direction if they want to hone it.
01:59:51.000It's a separate patent from the patent that I had that goes in all of our products the internal strapping.
01:59:55.000This was a new patent, still with internal strapping, but a more dialed in for a fight glove.
02:02:39.000But I also think you have to understand where, as a fighter, for me, it's like when I am relaxed, when I'm relaxed, and if my hand can be in this position when I'm relaxed, then I'm okay.
02:02:52.000Then there's not going to be as many eye pokes.
02:02:54.000But when I relax and it goes like this, right?
02:04:07.000Like my goal at a certain point would be to have where you can't have hand wraps on.
02:04:12.000Like, if you have a glove that's actually protecting your hand, but you have the gloves on, that now it's equal 100%.
02:04:18.000Because if you got one person that adds more padding or less padding or double layers tape, like, there's many different things that you can do.
02:04:26.000And that, to me, it's like if one fighter has Tate wrapping their hands and then the other one has House wrapping the hands, they're wrapping differently.
02:05:07.000And, ladies and gentlemen at home, if you're just listening, the difference between Trevor's gloves and everybody else's gloves, one of the big differences is that you can see.
02:05:15.000If you're looking at it on that, let's see how they're curved, folks.
02:11:16.000And when you think about the amount of damage that three years entails, that's pretty fucking incredible for pieces of leather and foam.0.87