The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #182 - Protect Ya Neck

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00:00:13.000 Hey, boy!

00:00:16.000 What's up, bro?

00:00:17.000 So, your boy Tommy was awesome.

00:00:18.000 He was good.

00:00:19.000 He was really cool.

00:00:19.000 Yeah, I actually listened on the way out to that one.

00:00:22.000 He's really fun.

00:00:22.000 Tommy Lee is fun.

00:00:23.000 He's like a big kid, man.

00:00:24.000 He is.

00:00:25.000 Yeah, like a 15 year old that just never had to grow up.

00:00:25.000 Kid.

00:00:29.000 He never went all the way up.

00:00:31.000 Well, he got famous when he was 18.

00:00:32.000 Exactly.

00:00:33.000 So, he really never had to grow up.

00:00:34.000 He just stayed Tommy Lee.

00:00:35.000 Yeah, I'm glad you finally got to have him on.

00:00:38.000 It was very cool.

00:00:39.000 So it was good.

00:00:40.000 He's really into bonsai trees.

00:00:42.000 Oh, big time.

00:00:43.000 Crazy.

00:00:43.000 Trims them up.

00:00:44.000 He's got like 100 year olds where you can find them at.

00:00:47.000 You can make them yourself.

00:00:48.000 His yard, he sets up like a whole Zen garden type of thing.

00:00:52.000 It's pretty wild.

00:00:53.000 But he's been into those and he likes to trim them up.

00:00:56.000 And, you know, it's pretty wild.

00:00:59.000 He's a positive, energy, nice guy.

00:01:01.000 Like he's never been in my, you know, what do you want to say, interactions with him?

00:01:07.000 He's never been a dick.

00:01:08.000 Never.

00:01:09.000 He's simple.

00:01:09.000 Never.

00:01:10.000 He was cool to work for.

00:01:11.000 Well, I only worked, I met him rather when you were working with him, when you were his bodyguard.

00:01:16.000 And then this is the other time I met him.

00:01:18.000 So he's super cool.

00:01:19.000 Nice.

00:01:19.000 Good.

00:01:20.000 I remember him in the car.

00:01:21.000 In the car.

00:01:22.000 With his dick.

00:01:25.000 I remember his peckers as tall as you are.

00:01:25.000 In the car.

00:01:28.000 I remember him with his fucking huge dick.

00:01:32.000 With Pamela Anderson.

00:01:34.000 He's got a lot of advantages in this life, doesn't he?

00:01:36.000 Good lord.

00:01:37.000 Good lord.

00:01:38.000 Goddamn.

00:01:39.000 His own person.

00:01:40.000 And one of the greatest drummers of all time.

00:01:42.000 That was like one of the first sex tapes.

00:01:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:01:45.000 That was why D-Files might be famous.

00:01:46.000 For celebrities, actual celebrities.

00:01:48.000 Did allow them to get famous afterwards.

00:01:50.000 Well, they were already famous.

00:01:51.000 That was why it was crazy.

00:01:52.000 That's why I got that.

00:01:53.000 Both of them were super famous.

00:01:54.000 But I mean, allowed them to catapult them into a different stratosphere.

00:01:54.000 Right.

00:01:58.000 Well, anytime one of them celebrities is dating another celebrity, it's like their fucking superpowers unite.

00:01:58.000 Right.

00:02:04.000 Yeah.

00:02:05.000 They get that.

00:02:06.000 I was like, he was with Heather Locklear too, right?

00:02:09.000 Right.

00:02:09.000 Yeah.

00:02:11.000 I mean, he was a fun dude.

00:02:14.000 The trees thing is wild, though.

00:02:15.000 I didn't know that these people have like 100 year old trees, 200 year old trees, 300 year old bonsai trees, and they pass them down through generations.

00:02:23.000 They have like paperwork, so you know who's the guy who first started the tree.

00:02:27.000 And they've got these trees that are like several hundred years old, and they're like this big.

00:02:32.000 And they're in like a pot.

00:02:33.000 What are you saying?

00:02:35.000 It's all like an artistic thing.

00:02:36.000 They're trimming them in certain patterns, and every time they try to grow, you trim them down, and they just like tighten up, and it makes a weird.

00:02:44.000 Form, yeah, it comes out pretty cool looking.

00:02:46.000 Yeah, actually, I wonder if the tree likes it though.

00:02:49.000 Yeah, I'm trying to grow 300 years old, 16 inches tall.

00:02:55.000 This is retarded.

00:02:59.000 I think for him though, he's had such a crazy high paced life that was the yin to the yang, you know what I mean?

00:03:05.000 That's how he relaxes.

00:03:06.000 I loved hearing it, it sounded perfect.

00:03:08.000 I was like, Oh, you found a great thing, and you see, he's a gearhead too, like you, so yeah, he's had a little, yeah, he was talking about finding on the cars, first cars he bought.

00:03:16.000 He bought an old Corvette.

00:03:18.000 He got a fucking supercharger put on it.

00:03:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:22.000 He's a maniac.

00:03:23.000 He's definitely a maniac, but he's a very nice.

00:03:26.000 Rock and roll, man.

00:03:27.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:27.000 The guy was the drummer for Motley Crue.

00:03:30.000 At 18, I can't even imagine what that must have been like.

00:03:34.000 Must have been insane.

00:03:35.000 A lot of these guys, they don't want to stop touring all these rock and roll stuff.

00:03:40.000 Why would they want to?

00:03:41.000 I mean, to see if that adrenaline.

00:03:42.000 But some of them, you should, though.

00:03:45.000 Some of them.

00:03:46.000 I saw some clips.

00:03:47.000 Who the fuck was it?

00:03:48.000 David Lee Roth?

00:03:49.000 No, I think it was the guy from ACDC.

00:03:51.000 Brian Johnson.

00:03:52.000 I don't know if it's that great.

00:03:53.000 Yeah.

00:03:54.000 Yeah, it's bad.

00:03:55.000 It's pretty bad.

00:03:56.000 Dude, ACDC is one of my favorite all time bands, and Brian Johnson's struggling.

00:03:59.000 I mean, but that screaming style he has.

00:04:02.000 Wow.

00:04:03.000 How do you keep that going?

00:04:04.000 Like, no acting or vocal coach would ever tell you you could sing like that.

00:04:08.000 I don't think so.

00:04:10.000 You just can't sing like that.

00:04:12.000 You can't fucking scream like that.

00:04:14.000 I wonder if they're getting like 60 year old groupies.

00:04:17.000 100%.

00:04:18.000 Really?

00:04:19.000 60 year old groupies?

00:04:20.000 Keeping that flame lit.

00:04:22.000 Oh, my God.

00:04:22.000 They've been keeping that flame lit since the 80s.

00:04:26.000 But do they have like new groupies, though?

00:04:26.000 Of course.

00:04:28.000 Of course.

00:04:29.000 Of course.

00:04:31.000 You know, there's no way they don't.

00:04:32.000 Like, doesn't.

00:04:35.000 What is his name?

00:04:39.000 Jesus Christ.

00:04:42.000 Rolling Stones?

00:04:43.000 I forget what it was.

00:04:44.000 Mick Jagger?

00:04:45.000 Well, I know Mick Jagger has a kid that's really young.

00:04:48.000 Mick Jagger just had a kid really recently.

00:04:51.000 Wow.

00:04:51.000 Yeah.

00:04:52.000 He's in his 80s.

00:04:53.000 I was thinking of someone else, though.

00:04:54.000 Someone else is another.

00:04:56.000 Oh, there's a bunch of guys like that.

00:04:57.000 Like Al Pacino just had a kid.

00:04:58.000 Oh, yeah, that's true.

00:04:59.000 But a lot of older guys like that, they wind up having kids.

00:04:59.000 Yeah.

00:05:04.000 Like, they're still obviously getting young chicks to fuck them.

00:05:07.000 It's kind of irresponsible, though.

00:05:08.000 I mean, I'm crazy.

00:05:09.000 I mean, but maybe it's crazy.

00:05:11.000 You hope he's going to take care of the kid, but maybe it's the young chick that wants the kid.

00:05:15.000 That's yours, but it's still.

00:05:16.000 If you did it on purpose, if you're the guy and you did it on purpose, that's wild.

00:05:20.000 No, I don't even want to be around.

00:05:20.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:21.000 Yeah.

00:05:22.000 Because you have this kid at 80.

00:05:23.000 It's more important than my genes pass on that I be there for my child.

00:05:27.000 Think about that.

00:05:28.000 By the time you're 85, you're probably gone.

00:05:30.000 Yeah.

00:05:31.000 Yeah, by the time you're 85, you won't even see your kid go to school.

00:05:34.000 You'll be five years old and the kid will be five years old and the dad dies.

00:05:39.000 Maybe the.

00:05:40.000 Maybe the wife wanted it.

00:05:42.000 Well, sure.

00:05:43.000 You leave something behind, type of thing.

00:05:46.000 Maybe it's better than not doing it.

00:05:47.000 Maybe.

00:05:48.000 But also, if you're a fucking rational 80 year old, like, bro, you barely have time to take care of yourself.

00:05:54.000 You can't even keep your own shit in your pants.

00:05:57.000 You're going to raise a kid.

00:05:58.000 You're going to change both of your diapers.

00:06:00.000 You're going to take the kid to the park and run around.

00:06:03.000 You're going to change the kid's diapers and yours.

00:06:05.000 Bro, you're going to break a hip, and your toddler is going to be screaming, and no one will hear it.

00:06:10.000 Right.

00:06:10.000 And you're going to be alone with them at the park.

00:06:12.000 You're going to be lying there bleeding.

00:06:14.000 Internally from a broken hip, and the kid's gonna walk off.

00:06:19.000 You're gonna watch the five years old, yeah.

00:06:21.000 Three year old wander off, and you're 80.

00:06:24.000 Oh, nuts.

00:06:25.000 By the way, Longo, you got him upset because he's like, Man, I've been feeling good.

00:06:25.000 Oh, yeah.

00:06:31.000 He's like, I'm, you know, I'm at the gym every day.

00:06:34.000 And I go, fucking, I turn on Rogan and he's bitching about being 58.

00:06:38.000 I'm like, What the fuck?

00:06:40.000 He's 68.

00:06:41.000 Oh, so he's basically like, I want to fuck.

00:06:44.000 He's playing about being 58.

00:06:46.000 Ray's really 68.

00:06:47.000 He looks great.

00:06:48.000 He looks real good.

00:06:49.000 He looks great.

00:06:50.000 He's got dark ass hair.

00:06:51.000 Right?

00:06:51.000 I know, right?

00:06:52.000 What the fuck?

00:06:53.000 He don't have a wrinkle.

00:06:54.000 He don't have Ronald Reagan hair.

00:06:57.000 He's looking good.

00:06:58.000 And then he asked me about what the fuck.

00:06:58.000 That's great.

00:07:00.000 I love long hair.

00:07:01.000 Because Ronald Reagan had dark hair, like deep into his 70s.

00:07:05.000 Come on.

00:07:06.000 My shit is all white.

00:07:07.000 If I had hair and I grew it out, it would be all gray.

00:07:10.000 Really?

00:07:10.000 Yeah, mostly.

00:07:11.000 It's like my face.

00:07:13.000 My stubble, it's like at least 60% gray.

00:07:16.000 Yeah, mine is all gray now.

00:07:18.000 It's weird.

00:07:19.000 Like something about a gray beard that's like you're just saying, fuck it.

00:07:22.000 Yeah, that's why I just started trimming it down.

00:07:25.000 I was like, yo, this is ridiculous.

00:07:27.000 Yeah, I don't like the way it looks.

00:07:29.000 But I see myself in the mirror with a gray beard.

00:07:31.000 I'm like, who the fuck are you?

00:07:32.000 You're supposed to have a dark beard.

00:07:32.000 Yeah.

00:07:33.000 For sure.

00:07:34.000 I had a dark beard most of my life.

00:07:35.000 I'm looking at pictures from like a couple years ago and it's dark.

00:07:39.000 Now it's all gray.

00:07:40.000 Like, what the fuck happened?

00:07:41.000 They had a thing on AE with me and George and they had a shorter clip of me and you talking.

00:07:47.000 I still, we both had hair.

00:07:49.000 Any fucking minute.

00:07:51.000 Crazy, isn't it?

00:07:52.000 It looked crazy.

00:07:53.000 It's weird.

00:07:55.000 You're just slowly slipping into the grave.

00:08:00.000 We're looking good, though.

00:08:01.000 Compared to a lot of them.

00:08:02.000 Holding it down as long as we can.

00:08:03.000 Compared to people that don't take care of themselves and also compared to people from the past.

00:08:03.000 Yes.

00:08:07.000 Oh, that's what I'm saying.

00:08:08.000 This didn't have TRT, this didn't have PS5.

00:08:10.000 This didn't have vitamins.

00:08:11.000 You know?

00:08:12.000 Don't have red light therapy.

00:08:13.000 But think about, like, in the 80s, what 40 year olds looked like in the 80s.

00:08:16.000 Right?

00:08:17.000 Yeah, they were fucking good.

00:08:18.000 And I think the martial arts also helps.

00:08:21.000 Like, we just had an event, Henzo's 30th anniversary for his academy in the U.S.

00:08:27.000 That was great.

00:08:28.000 And they invited all the OGs.

00:08:29.000 So, you know, we were, I've seen guys I hadn't seen in decades.

00:08:32.000 Got a fifth degree.

00:08:33.000 But yeah, I got a sixth degree.

00:08:34.000 Matt got his sixth degree.

00:08:35.000 Congratulations.

00:08:36.000 Look at that.

00:08:37.000 That's amazing.

00:08:38.000 And I mean, we were talking like almost everybody looked good.

00:08:42.000 Everybody looked good.

00:08:43.000 Everybody.

00:08:43.000 And there was, you know, 60 guys there.

00:08:46.000 The thing is, you got to maintain.

00:08:49.000 And if you don't maintain, you're never getting it back.

00:08:51.000 Yeah.

00:08:51.000 You don't, you don't, you can't, like, at 50, you can't take three years off.

00:08:55.000 Like, you can't start working out again.

00:08:57.000 It's just too hard to get back.

00:08:58.000 And if you never worked out before and you're like 46 and you're starting now, like, It's tough.

00:09:04.000 That's a hard road, man.

00:09:05.000 You've never worked out before.

00:09:07.000 Like, first of all, go slow.

00:09:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:09:09.000 You've got to break everything.

00:09:10.000 Well, that's the problem.

00:09:11.000 People want to jump right in, and then you get hurt or get busted up a little bit, and then it just defeats.

00:09:17.000 You know what I mean?

00:09:18.000 You're like, fuck this.

00:09:18.000 Which is the big reality.

00:09:19.000 Try to be in shape, not get injured.

00:09:21.000 The big reality about age is how long it takes to heal something.

00:09:23.000 Yeah, it does.

00:09:24.000 My kids get hurt.

00:09:25.000 They just fucking heal up like Wolverine.

00:09:26.000 It's nuts.

00:09:27.000 Like, within a few days, oh, my shoulder's fine again.

00:09:29.000 Like, you fucking just did a backflip and laid it on your shoulder.

00:09:32.000 You're right.

00:09:33.000 I would be.

00:09:34.000 Fucked up for a year.

00:09:35.000 Yeah.

00:09:36.000 They just heal quicker.

00:09:37.000 They're alive.

00:09:39.000 I mean, it's the fucking truth.

00:09:42.000 That's the truth, man.

00:09:43.000 That's the number one thing that happens as you get older.

00:09:46.000 If you're lifers like us, you just got to be smart about your training.

00:09:49.000 100%.

00:09:50.000 Like, you know, I got young savages.

00:09:52.000 I don't fucking.

00:09:53.000 I choose who I want to roll with.

00:09:55.000 Like, you know what I mean?

00:09:56.000 You don't got to be that guy to fucking just slay everybody on the mat there because you're the sensei.

00:09:56.000 Sure.

00:10:00.000 You're going to break.

00:10:01.000 You'll break.

00:10:02.000 You know, it's like you have a Corvette, you take it around the track, you can only do so many laps.

00:10:07.000 Every car, even Formula One cars that cost $100 million, whatever they got, they break.

00:10:12.000 You can only go so far, so fast, so long before you blow a rod.

00:10:17.000 Some shit goes sideways.

00:10:19.000 Everybody I know has had surgery.

00:10:21.000 Everybody.

00:10:22.000 Everybody.

00:10:23.000 Like for me, like when I'm in Philly with the crew, Brady and Piper and them, like it's hard being in a room with these guys because they want to grab you and do moves on you.

00:10:31.000 And I'm like, oh, chill out, man.

00:10:32.000 Let's grab one of the younger guys.

00:10:33.000 Bro, the last guy you want grabbing you is Brady.

00:10:36.000 Yeah.

00:10:37.000 Jesus Christ.

00:10:38.000 When he gets on top of you and just starts squeezing you, he will look grabbed, right?

00:10:41.000 His.

00:10:41.000 Yeah.

00:10:41.000 That fucking fight with Joaquin Buckley, I was like, holy shit, man.

00:10:45.000 Yeah, he ragdolled.

00:10:46.000 Yeah.

00:10:47.000 Bro, it was the level of domination was like shocking.

00:10:51.000 I was like, okay, so this is his best form.

00:10:54.000 Like, this is him at his best.

00:10:57.000 At his best is fucking terrible.

00:10:59.000 He's a little inconsistent.

00:11:00.000 Like, the Morales fight was tough.

00:11:02.000 But when, and he said it's like his head wasn't in it.

00:11:05.000 But when his fucking head is in it and he's like dialed in.

00:11:08.000 For sure, man.

00:11:09.000 He's like, when he grabs you, bro.

00:11:11.000 Like, he'll squeeze you and you just start making like a little noise, like, eeh.

00:11:14.000 When he did a Leon and what he did to Joaquin, you're like, holy shit, man, what is that like?

00:11:20.000 That was beautiful.

00:11:21.000 It's just beautiful.

00:11:22.000 As explosive an athlete as Joaquin is.

00:11:24.000 The floor, like everywhere they went, he was just following them one step ahead.

00:11:29.000 It was like, no escape.

00:11:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:31.000 He don't let you out, man.

00:11:32.000 And then smoosh.

00:11:33.000 Yeah, and he just gets smushed.

00:11:34.000 His back is so big, he just gets so much coverage over you when he's on top of you.

00:11:38.000 And the balance, it's just so many steps ahead of them on the ground.

00:11:43.000 One time, it really looked like a cardio drill.

00:11:46.000 Like he was on top.

00:11:48.000 Like he was just, it looked like he was just getting super.

00:11:50.000 Like, placid face, super calm.

00:11:53.000 I believe where they were, he wasn't allowed to do the 12 to 6 elbows.

00:11:57.000 Oh, that's so crazy.

00:11:58.000 That's where, right or wrong?

00:11:59.000 Something like that.

00:12:00.000 I think Jersey's still like that, right?

00:12:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:03.000 There's a lot of places that are like that, man.

00:12:04.000 It's so dumb.

00:12:05.000 That are still using the old unified rules?

00:12:08.000 Like, that rule doesn't make any sense.

00:12:08.000 It's so dumb.

00:12:10.000 It would be nice if it was a debate.

00:12:11.000 I get it if it's, you know, soccer kicks.

00:12:14.000 Okay, you want to have a debate?

00:12:15.000 But if you can elbow this way and this way and this way, but you can't go this way, that's just retarded.

00:12:21.000 And everybody else is doing it.

00:12:23.000 So why would you not do it?

00:12:25.000 And you have to remember what state you're in.

00:12:25.000 It doesn't make sense.

00:12:27.000 So, like, when you're in the fight and you're on instinct and the guy's like this.

00:12:27.000 That's the problem.

00:12:32.000 But it's wide open for a 12 6 elbow.

00:12:34.000 You're supposed to throw it.

00:12:35.000 That's what it's for.

00:12:36.000 Yeah, for safety's sake and the referee's ability to make a decision have consistency in the rule set.

00:12:43.000 It's just another elbow.

00:12:44.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:12:46.000 Like this one elbow that's outlawed, that's crazy.

00:12:48.000 Right.

00:12:49.000 I don't know why I have no idea.

00:12:50.000 You can knee the hell out of somebody in their face.

00:12:53.000 You can run and jump and knee them in the face.

00:12:57.000 Oh, God.

00:12:58.000 And some of the craziest knockouts we've ever seen come from that.

00:13:01.000 Like we were just talking about Mazvidal versus Askren the other day.

00:13:05.000 Oh, man.

00:13:06.000 He's supposed to be wrestling again.

00:13:06.000 Hey.

00:13:09.000 Oh, wow.

00:13:11.000 Is that a good idea?

00:13:12.000 No.

00:13:13.000 I saw him talking the other day.

00:13:14.000 Yeah, that waked me out when I heard that.

00:13:16.000 When he was talking, he was coughing a lot.

00:13:18.000 I'm like, listen, when you're people who are athletes, they're afraid of wrestling because it's exhausting.

00:13:24.000 They don't want to feel that burn in their lungs.

00:13:26.000 You really want to push yourself like that?

00:13:29.000 I worry about it.

00:13:30.000 I just don't want them to get.

00:13:32.000 Totally with you.

00:13:32.000 I mean, he had double lung transplant surgery.

00:13:37.000 How long ago?

00:13:37.000 That was like a year ago.

00:13:39.000 A year ago?

00:13:39.000 Maybe two years ago.

00:13:41.000 Maybe two years ago.

00:13:41.000 I'd be worried even just about infection.

00:13:43.000 Yeah.

00:13:44.000 I'd be worried about everything.

00:13:45.000 And I would also be worried if you're doing that, I think you have to take immunosuppressant drugs in order to keep someone else's organs inside of you.

00:13:55.000 So you're going to go out into a giant crowd of people.

00:13:57.000 So my friend CT Fletcher, you know CT Fletcher?

00:14:00.000 CT had a heart transplant and he has to take medication to keep this heart in his body, keep his body from rejecting it.

00:14:08.000 And he has a bunch of complications from the Medication like makes him swell, and he posts videos and pictures about it.

00:14:15.000 Like, it's a serious thing.

00:14:17.000 And he had to be real careful during COVID.

00:14:19.000 Like, you have a heart transplant, and then you're on immunosuppressant drugs, and then all of a sudden, or a bad flu.

00:14:24.000 Yeah, like anything bad will fucking kill you because your immune system is working in a weird way because it's trying to keep someone else's heart inside of you.

00:14:33.000 Yeah, your body's like, Who's this fucking heart?

00:14:36.000 Right, it's not our heart.

00:14:37.000 Get it out.

00:14:38.000 Your body's like, This is a disease, which is wild that your body knows.

00:14:42.000 Yeah, like it recognizes that it's from another.

00:14:46.000 And we're just like, nah, we can hack nature, shove it in there, and give you some drugs that make your body stay alive.

00:14:53.000 I think it was Bilal Muhammad.

00:14:55.000 Yeah, it's Bilal Muhammad.

00:14:56.000 Maybe he has like an agreement.

00:14:57.000 Like, hey, listen, man.

00:14:58.000 Didn't they used to train together, right?

00:15:00.000 They did used to train together.

00:15:01.000 Maybe that's the deal.

00:15:01.000 So they're friends.

00:15:02.000 Dude, we were just reading about this last night.

00:15:04.000 Two people have had pig hearts transplanted in their bodies.

00:15:08.000 No way.

00:15:08.000 Yeah, one guy stayed alive, I think, for 60 days, and one guy stayed alive for 40 days.

00:15:14.000 Did they gain a lot of weight?

00:15:20.000 Yeah.

00:15:21.000 They become fatties.

00:15:23.000 They start shoveling their face in the trash.

00:15:26.000 So, wait, you're telling me they have pig hearts?

00:15:29.000 Whose idea was it to put a pig heart in another human being?

00:15:33.000 That's funny.

00:15:34.000 There's a bunch of doctors because apparently pig's hearts, for some reason, are similar in function to a human heart.

00:15:42.000 Say that about a sheep's vagina.

00:15:44.000 Don't they?

00:15:46.000 Don't they?

00:15:47.000 They do.

00:15:48.000 I'm no farmer, but that's what I heard.

00:15:51.000 That's what I heard, too.

00:15:53.000 So, a Pigs hot.

00:15:55.000 Yeah.

00:15:55.000 That's fucking crazy.

00:15:56.000 It's crazy.

00:15:57.000 And so they did it on two people.

00:15:59.000 Yeah.

00:16:00.000 But either way, the whole thing of transplanting organs from other people is like super risky and dangerous.

00:16:05.000 And once it's working, the number of, like, we looked at heart transplants.

00:16:10.000 I don't know what it is for lung, double lung transplants, but you look at mortality over a period of years.

00:16:16.000 And so it's like 91% of the people survive the first year.

00:16:21.000 And then it starts going down.

00:16:22.000 So 9% of the people die after the heart transplant.

00:16:25.000 But then it starts to go down.

00:16:27.000 After, you know, that's for the first year.

00:16:29.000 When it gets to five years, then you're in the 80s.

00:16:32.000 Or the 90s and then the 80s.

00:16:33.000 And it keeps dipping.

00:16:34.000 It keeps dipping until, like, at 10 years, it's like half of them are dead.

00:16:38.000 Jesus.

00:16:39.000 So you're buying some time.

00:16:39.000 Yeah.

00:16:41.000 Right.

00:16:42.000 But, you know, it's also.

00:16:43.000 What about other.

00:16:45.000 Like, so what is it like for a double lung transplant?

00:16:45.000 It's a good question.

00:16:48.000 I don't know, but I would imagine it's fragile.

00:16:51.000 You want to put that in the fucking red?

00:16:52.000 You want to push that?

00:16:53.000 Will you breathe in heavy?

00:16:54.000 It felt like yesterday he was making laps around the hospital floor.

00:16:57.000 Right.

00:16:57.000 Yeah.

00:16:58.000 And that's a dude.

00:16:59.000 Well, he's a winner, right?

00:17:00.000 And that's the problem.

00:17:02.000 Like, sometimes when you're a winner, your will is so strong that you think you could force your body into unrealistic expectations.

00:17:10.000 There's got to be some agreement or something.

00:17:12.000 Like, I just, in my mind, too.

00:17:12.000 Yeah, there's.

00:17:14.000 I don't know, Bilal's a good dude.

00:17:16.000 He cheated.

00:17:17.000 I mean, basically, you cheated death.

00:17:19.000 Yes.

00:17:19.000 Your family now, you have your family back.

00:17:21.000 You understand you have a second chance.

00:17:23.000 Like, why would you put that at risk to do something?

00:17:27.000 Maybe him and Bilal have, like, a friendly wrestling role.

00:17:31.000 That's kind of what I. That's kind of a friendly wrestling.

00:17:34.000 I don't.

00:17:34.000 Think that though.

00:17:35.000 He's an animal.

00:17:36.000 Jen Askren's a fucking animal.

00:17:38.000 I don't think that they have an agreement with each other.

00:17:40.000 I think that somebody told Bilal, hey, listen, man, don't push this dude.

00:17:44.000 Well, he said, like, I saw an interview where he said, bro, like, his first question was, what are you talking about?

00:17:50.000 Can he wrestle?

00:17:51.000 You know what I mean?

00:17:52.000 Has he even been cleared?

00:17:53.000 So.

00:17:55.000 I would not accept that if I was Bilal.

00:17:57.000 I'd be like, that's where I'm at.

00:17:59.000 The pros don't go.

00:18:00.000 And this is no disrespect to Askren.

00:18:02.000 It's like, I think that guy's an animal.

00:18:04.000 Like, I was one of the biggest promoters of trying to get Askren into the UFC when he was the champion of Bellator.

00:18:10.000 And then when he went over to one.

00:18:11.000 And the argument was like he was boring.

00:18:13.000 And I was like, no, he's not boring.

00:18:15.000 It's crazy that he could do this to these guys.

00:18:17.000 He could take guys like Douglas Lima and just rag doll him to the ground and they can't do shit to him.

00:18:17.000 Yeah.

00:18:23.000 Koroskov, remember he did shit to him?

00:18:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:25.000 He wasn't boring at all.

00:18:26.000 He was destroying guys.

00:18:27.000 Yeah.

00:18:27.000 Dolling these guys.

00:18:28.000 They had zero chance in him not taking them down.

00:18:32.000 It was zero chance.

00:18:33.000 And it was beautiful.

00:18:34.000 It wasn't like Alex Pereira flying kneeing somebody in the face, but it's still another way to win.

00:18:34.000 Right.

00:18:40.000 But it was like a man and a child.

00:18:42.000 Yeah.

00:18:42.000 Yes.

00:18:43.000 It was crazy good.

00:18:44.000 He was crazy good.

00:18:46.000 And then we got him like a little late, right?

00:18:48.000 We got him when he already had hip problems and he eventually had to get a hip replacement after he got out of the UFC.

00:18:54.000 You know, he had already been 15 years in combat sports and then all the years of wrestling and like, but those days when he was running shit at Bellator, he was a motherfucker, dude.

00:19:04.000 He was a motherfucker.

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00:20:20.000 His fight with Damian Meyer was fucking awesome.

00:20:23.000 That's a great note.

00:20:23.000 Amazing, bro.

00:20:24.000 What's beautiful about that fight is.

00:20:27.000 They're both, it's almost like the closest thing to style versus style that we could have nowadays.

00:20:32.000 Yeah.

00:20:32.000 You know, they're both so brilliant at the way they use their art with him with his wrestling and him with his jiu jitsu.

00:20:40.000 And in that fight, you got to see some of that with Ben.

00:20:45.000 You got to see the takedowns.

00:20:47.000 You got to see an Uma Plata reversal, a leg lock Ashi reversal.

00:20:51.000 I mean, beautiful jiu jitsu.

00:20:53.000 Yeah.

00:20:53.000 It was just such a great fight.

00:20:55.000 Dude, Damian Maya got fucked harder than anybody ever got fucked.

00:20:58.000 By a referee's decision.

00:20:59.000 Kamara Usman.

00:21:00.000 Yep.

00:21:01.000 Nobody got fucked harder than Damian Meyer.

00:21:01.000 Ever.

00:21:01.000 Right.

00:21:04.000 Was it her or was it?

00:21:05.000 And maybe we shouldn't even pull her name up.

00:21:05.000 I don't know.

00:21:07.000 Don't pull it.

00:21:09.000 I can't do my boys like that, man.

00:21:12.000 I want to think.

00:21:12.000 I got to see them in a week.

00:21:14.000 I don't remember who it was.

00:21:15.000 But who I think is the guy who doesn't do it in the UFC anymore.

00:21:18.000 But he had him on his back, one hook in, over, under.

00:21:24.000 He had gotten to a position where, like, you are fucked.

00:21:26.000 You're dry.

00:21:28.000 And you got the best back specialist in the UFC.

00:21:31.000 Damian Meyer was a.

00:21:32.000 The way he ran through Neil Magna, you're like, oh, holy shit, man.

00:21:36.000 His jujitsu is so high level.

00:21:36.000 Yeah.

00:21:39.000 And for you to get off, get him off, and Kamaro's one loss.

00:21:44.000 Right, was to make a choke.

00:21:46.000 Alex LeCarras' brother.

00:21:46.000 Yeah.

00:21:48.000 So it's like, how many years ago was that?

00:21:49.000 Like, and now you're fighting Damian Maia, and he's got your back.

00:21:52.000 You're in danger.

00:21:53.000 Like, you're in danger.

00:21:53.000 Yeah.

00:21:54.000 And the referee separated him in.

00:21:55.000 Never got to that spot again.

00:21:55.000 So crazy.

00:21:57.000 Kamaro played it nice.

00:21:58.000 He fought a great fight, won the fight.

00:22:00.000 And you're like, damn, Damian had him.

00:22:02.000 He had him in a, like, not 9 out of 10, but he had him in, like, a 6 out of 10 spot for him.

00:22:08.000 Like, half the time he gets your back and you're dry and you're not at his level of jujitsu, you're in fucking hell.

00:22:08.000 Yeah.

00:22:15.000 You should never separate anybody from that position.

00:22:17.000 I know you're a big proponent of not standing people up, but especially positions that it requires time to get to.

00:22:24.000 100%.

00:22:25.000 100%.

00:22:26.000 The idea that a guy can defend it for a few seconds and the crowd booze and that's enough for you to make them neutral again.

00:22:32.000 Fuck you.

00:22:33.000 It's so hard to get to Kamaru.

00:22:33.000 I know.

00:22:36.000 Kamaru Ousmane to get his back like that.

00:22:39.000 And the tightness is what keeps that position.

00:22:42.000 Any space he makes, and Kamaru's gone.

00:22:44.000 Name the amount of times in the history of Kamaru's entire, all the years of competition, where people got him in disadvantageous grappling positions.

00:22:54.000 There's very few.

00:22:54.000 I can't think of.

00:22:56.000 Very few.

00:22:57.000 Leon Taylor.

00:22:58.000 Leon Mouda.

00:23:00.000 Chamaev.

00:23:01.000 Chamaev.

00:23:02.000 But even Chamaev, he was winning the third round.

00:23:04.000 Oh, well, he got the.

00:23:06.000 Damien almost won that fight.

00:23:08.000 It came.

00:23:09.000 Like, that's a fight where I've had.

00:23:10.000 He won the last hand.

00:23:11.000 Here he is.

00:23:12.000 This is crazy.

00:23:15.000 Oh, shit.

00:23:16.000 Who is that?

00:23:16.000 Do I need headshots?

00:23:17.000 It doesn't matter.

00:23:18.000 All right.

00:23:20.000 That sucks.

00:23:21.000 Back it up again so you can see how good the position was a little further.

00:23:24.000 Look at that hook.

00:23:26.000 Can you get it a little further back?

00:23:28.000 Yeah, here.

00:23:29.000 So I want to see it like right and he starts entangling.

00:23:31.000 This is so bad for Kamaro.

00:23:34.000 You have to understand how bad this is.

00:23:35.000 Yeah, this is bad.

00:23:37.000 This is not just simply he's like behind you.

00:23:39.000 And Maya had that.

00:23:41.000 The progression.

00:23:43.000 He was just about to beat that wizard.

00:23:44.000 Bro, look how good this looks, too.

00:23:47.000 Maya is just a gorilla.

00:23:48.000 His wrestling was underestimated, too.

00:23:51.000 So he was technical in everything.

00:23:54.000 And his use of leverage and his positioning was always perfect.

00:23:58.000 It just was so beautiful to watch.

00:24:00.000 When you see a guy just super high level jiu jitsu in the UFC, you're just like, oh my God, this is beautiful to watch.

00:24:10.000 Yeah, I love how methodical he's working his way into this.

00:24:12.000 It's dangerous, man.

00:24:14.000 Look at that.

00:24:15.000 Oh my God.

00:24:16.000 He was going to step in there.

00:24:18.000 Look at this.

00:24:19.000 That arm is the only thing.

00:24:21.000 And he's just about to beat that arm.

00:24:22.000 And not only that, from here, he could just start beating him up with the right hand, which he'll probably start doing.

00:24:26.000 So if the referee.

00:24:27.000 Referee really stands him up from this position.

00:24:30.000 Like, this is a crazy way to separate people.

00:24:34.000 This is bad, man.

00:24:36.000 This is like, for Kamaro, this is super dangerous.

00:24:38.000 Still got half the round left.

00:24:39.000 Hanging onto that wizard for dear life is the only thing for keeping him from getting this guy on your neck.

00:24:45.000 And that wizard is like at 40% power now because look how far back it is.

00:24:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:51.000 Not much into that.

00:24:51.000 Yeah, there's not much.

00:24:53.000 It's hard.

00:24:54.000 It's hard to generate power like that with Kamaro.

00:24:56.000 I mean, he's got full double underhooks.

00:24:59.000 How do they break this up?

00:25:00.000 How do you break this up?

00:25:01.000 This is crazy to break up.

00:25:04.000 Like, this is such a dangerous position.

00:25:07.000 Oh, this is bad.

00:25:09.000 I don't recognize the ref.

00:25:11.000 Yeah, I can't remember.

00:25:13.000 I'm not going to say his name.

00:25:13.000 I recognize him.

00:25:14.000 There's no need to, but this is a giant mistake.

00:25:17.000 You're clear, Herb.

00:25:18.000 Sometimes, I'm just letting Herb know it's all right.

00:25:21.000 Sometimes in fights, man, these guys listen to the crowd.

00:25:26.000 Yeah.

00:25:27.000 It's kind of hard not to, right?

00:25:28.000 And they feel responsible.

00:25:29.000 Yeah, they do.

00:25:30.000 And then the organization, I'm sure they feel pressure because the organization wants like fast action fights.

00:25:37.000 But there's certain situations where you got to just accept the fact that sometimes this sport is not the most exciting for moments because it's so exciting in other spots.

00:25:46.000 Punching his ass.

00:25:47.000 Oh, that's crazy right there.

00:25:48.000 Right after he's punched his ass.

00:25:49.000 Fucking crazy.

00:25:50.000 That's crazy.

00:25:51.000 Oh, man.

00:25:51.000 That's the worst fuck over that anybody's ever gotten in the UFC.

00:25:56.000 I mean, I think that's the worst.

00:25:58.000 That was the worst.

00:25:59.000 There is the time that fucking Bustamante had to get a Two submissions.

00:26:04.000 That's a pretty big buck.

00:26:05.000 That's who Maya reminds me of.

00:26:07.000 His striking wasn't as good as Murillo's, but the combination of wrestling and his jujitsu, like once he got a hold of you, he was probably going to put you out.

00:26:15.000 Yeah, Murillo was so good.

00:26:17.000 He's still coming around.

00:26:18.000 He's got a fighter in the UFC now.

00:26:19.000 Nice.

00:26:20.000 That's awesome.

00:26:20.000 Does he?

00:26:22.000 I saw him when I first started jujitsu at Carlson Gracie's place.

00:26:25.000 Did you?

00:26:25.000 Yeah, the very first year that I started jujitsu, it was like him, Vitor was there, Sergio Cohen, um, Mario Sperry.

00:26:36.000 It was crazy.

00:26:37.000 I just stumbled in a ridiculous room back then.

00:26:40.000 Lucked out and wound up watching these guys train when Vitor was about to make his UFC debut.

00:26:45.000 I was just starting out.

00:26:46.000 I was like, this is amazing.

00:26:48.000 You seen all them guys in there?

00:26:49.000 Dude, they were all in there, man.

00:26:51.000 You could just come in off the street and see the best jujitsu guys in the world training.

00:26:54.000 That's crazy.

00:26:55.000 It was crazy.

00:26:56.000 And it was all, they were all fighting in.

00:26:59.000 There was the other guy, what's his name?

00:27:01.000 Carlos.

00:27:02.000 Fuck.

00:27:03.000 Bajeto.

00:27:04.000 Carlos Bajeto.

00:27:04.000 That's right.

00:27:05.000 He was there too.

00:27:06.000 There was a bunch of those Carlson Gracie team guys that we just got lucky.

00:27:06.000 Mm hmm.

00:27:10.000 This was the place that.

00:27:12.000 Yeah, man.

00:27:13.000 Randleman's built like a He Man figure.

00:27:16.000 Carlson had some savages, man.

00:27:18.000 He really had a great team.

00:27:19.000 Yeah.

00:27:20.000 Yeah.

00:27:21.000 It was Laborio back then.

00:27:22.000 Oh, that's where I got my black belt from.

00:27:24.000 Laborio.

00:27:25.000 Hell yeah.

00:27:25.000 That's another guy to be proud of.

00:27:27.000 He is a good guy.

00:27:28.000 Such a nice guy.

00:27:29.000 Yeah.

00:27:30.000 It's like, it's kind of amazing when you realize that before 1993, jujitsu had no schools.

00:27:38.000 Right.

00:27:39.000 And now they're everywhere.

00:27:41.000 Every corner.

00:27:42.000 They're nuts.

00:27:44.000 That is like ground controls.

00:27:45.000 That's really insane.

00:27:47.000 The Gracie family, the world owes them.

00:27:50.000 Yeah.

00:27:51.000 No, no one knows no doubt about it.

00:27:53.000 The world owes them.

00:27:54.000 The world, the whole world.

00:27:55.000 The world is impacted.

00:27:56.000 Like, think of the world.

00:27:58.000 The world.

00:27:59.000 The whole world.

00:27:59.000 Yeah, everybody.

00:28:00.000 Because I think liking MMA has impacted culture, and then people training, much more people training in jujitsu has impacted culture.

00:28:10.000 Hell yeah.

00:28:10.000 Where the fuck would we be?

00:28:12.000 Like, the UFC is here because of the Gracie's as well?

00:28:14.000 Yeah.

00:28:15.000 I mean, obviously, the Fertit is in Dana, but his idea was.

00:28:17.000 Yeah, but Horry started the whole thing.

00:28:18.000 He wanted to have a crocodile mode around it.

00:28:21.000 It's amazing.

00:28:24.000 I remember hearing about it in 1992 with Horion and Hoyce, the seminar I went to.

00:28:31.000 And they were talking about that.

00:28:33.000 They were talking about the different ideas, what they were going to do.

00:28:35.000 And even though I didn't think they were full of shit, I thought it was never going to happen.

00:28:40.000 I'm like, what is this?

00:28:41.000 Blood sport?

00:28:41.000 On TV?

00:28:42.000 They're going to be fighting?

00:28:44.000 It sounded ridiculous.

00:28:45.000 But now everybody's so used to it, it sounds ridiculous that it sounds ridiculous.

00:28:50.000 That's true.

00:28:51.000 When I first found out about it, I didn't watch it until it was UFC 2 because I will only watch it on videotape.

00:28:56.000 Like, someone from the gym told me about it.

00:28:58.000 And I went and watched it.

00:28:59.000 I got the videotape of like Hollywood video, brought it home, and I was like, oh my God, they did it.

00:29:04.000 They did.

00:29:05.000 That's what I thought.

00:29:06.000 So, did you like, oh, they pulled this off?

00:29:08.000 No, no, they did the thing that we always wanted.

00:29:08.000 I saw that.

00:29:11.000 Oh, so when I was, when I first started, yeah.

00:29:14.000 I first started taking karate, and I thought karate was good until I stumbled into this really good taekwondo school.

00:29:18.000 And I was like, oh, taekwondo is a shit.

00:29:20.000 And then I started boxing.

00:29:21.000 I'm like, oh my God, I can't box.

00:29:22.000 And then I started kickboxing.

00:29:23.000 I'm like, oh my God, you can kick my legs?

00:29:25.000 I didn't know you can kick my legs.

00:29:26.000 This is terrible.

00:29:27.000 And then I started doing jujitsu.

00:29:28.000 I'm like, oh my God, I'm helpless.

00:29:29.000 So, it's like all these steps along the way.

00:29:32.000 I was like, it would have been nice if we knew what style was real.

00:29:36.000 And this is what Bruce Lee tried.

00:29:37.000 Right.

00:29:38.000 Bro, when I was starting out in like 88 doing Taekwondo, nobody knew nothing.

00:29:42.000 Nothing.

00:29:42.000 Nobody knew what worked.

00:29:43.000 Everybody just like, sorry, that guy beats people in that thing.

00:29:46.000 And that guy beat.

00:29:47.000 I wonder what would happen if they fought.

00:29:48.000 Right.

00:29:48.000 No one knew.

00:29:49.000 But I saw UFC too.

00:29:49.000 They fought.

00:29:50.000 Wrestling was worthless.

00:29:51.000 Grappling arts were worthless.

00:29:53.000 Yeah.

00:29:53.000 Well, luckily, I learned it was not worthless in high school when I got my ass kicked.

00:29:59.000 Me too, man.

00:30:00.000 I'd sit on a fucking wooden dummy that's.

00:30:02.000 Change the money's punched my ass.

00:30:04.000 That's all I know.

00:30:06.000 And every time I get into a real scrap, I'd go back to my season of eighth grade wrestling.

00:30:11.000 That's the case.

00:30:12.000 But I also think that Wing Chun would work if you knew all the other like Anderson Silva can use Wing Chun, right?

00:30:19.000 You know, I'm saying a lot of hand trapping.

00:30:21.000 Yeah, there's hand trapping and elbows from him.

00:30:23.000 This stuff that does work if you know all the other shit, it's an added element, right?

00:30:28.000 It's like there's moves that you could do that you're just your opponent's not gonna.

00:30:32.000 Your opponent is used to this, right?

00:30:34.000 They're used to punches, like regular punches.

00:30:36.000 Every now and then, weird shit can work because they don't see it coming and then it opens up other big shots.

00:30:43.000 And Wing Chun can.

00:30:44.000 Those guys, when you watch the really good ones, like whack at each other's arms and shit, you're like, okay, there's like a little value in this.

00:30:50.000 Yeah.

00:30:51.000 There's a little value in getting good at this.

00:30:53.000 As long as you know how to actually punch.

00:30:55.000 Yeah, I don't dismiss nothing because anything can work in the right context.

00:30:59.000 It's just not going to work on Terrence Crawford.

00:31:01.000 Yeah.

00:31:03.000 Not a boxing match against Terrence Crawford.

00:31:05.000 It's nothing in.

00:31:06.000 I don't know what is working against him anyway.

00:31:10.000 Not much.

00:31:10.000 No one has figured that out.

00:31:11.000 Not much.

00:31:12.000 No one has figured that out.

00:31:13.000 Not much.

00:31:13.000 Listen, you could have fun with it, but as far as value, I'd say very little value.

00:31:19.000 Very little.

00:31:20.000 It's only valuable if you're going to do any other stuff.

00:31:23.000 Yeah, if you're going to do that, you might as well be doing Muay Thai, Weston boxing, or jujitsu.

00:31:28.000 No, no, for sure.

00:31:29.000 By itself, useless.

00:31:31.000 But what I think is if you already are doing other stuff and you could train with a guy who can show you some of it, I think you would be like, oh, I see value in this.

00:31:39.000 Do you remember when Dan Henderson was fighting Hector Lombard and he hit him with like a back elbow?

00:31:39.000 Like.

00:31:45.000 Right, yeah.

00:31:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:47.000 Or a back forearm.

00:31:48.000 It was an elbow or forearm?

00:31:49.000 I think it was an elbow.

00:31:50.000 Yeah, I think he like threw.

00:31:51.000 Punching canes, sometimes you ever see people do standing back fists sometimes and they work.

00:31:57.000 There's some shit that we're missing, yeah.

00:31:59.000 And like, I think wing chung is a part of it, yeah.

00:32:02.000 I agree with that, like, especially like when you're in close, like in clinching positions, you're just like trapping hatchets.

00:32:07.000 Bam, bam.

00:32:08.000 I think is the number one thing that people need should be doing.

00:32:08.000 You know what?

00:32:13.000 The number one thing that people should be doing is point fighting karate.

00:32:17.000 It's you know, like, you want to add something.

00:32:20.000 I mean, not obviously, not number one over wrestling and all that, but the number one thing to add, don't add wing chung.

00:32:25.000 At point, fighting karate.

00:32:27.000 But it's such a physical thing that a lot of people probably can't do.

00:32:30.000 Especially if you come from a wrestling background where you're so used to being heavy and square.

00:32:36.000 To be able to turn sideways and jump in and out like that.

00:32:38.000 But if you can do it, that advantage is so huge.

00:32:42.000 When you watch MVP when he's in his prime.

00:32:44.000 It's so funny.

00:32:45.000 When you hear the Shara Bullet.

00:32:48.000 Yeah, but the thing about the back elbow.

00:32:51.000 Crazy.

00:32:52.000 Damn.

00:32:53.000 What a beautiful elbow.

00:32:54.000 From a wrestling position.

00:32:56.000 Let me see that again.

00:32:56.000 Yeah.

00:32:58.000 How did he land it?

00:32:59.000 So, yeah, he had his leg.

00:33:00.000 Look at that.

00:33:01.000 He's holding his leg.

00:33:03.000 Look at the fucking elbow.

00:33:03.000 And he catches it.

00:33:05.000 Oh, son.

00:33:07.000 Fantastic.

00:33:08.000 What a fucking elbow.

00:33:09.000 That's one of the greatest elbows of all time.

00:33:11.000 Underappreciated elbow right there.

00:33:14.000 To get a knockout elbow while you're hopping on one leg?

00:33:17.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

00:33:18.000 Fighting off the takedown?

00:33:19.000 Yeah.

00:33:20.000 That was nasty.

00:33:22.000 Wasn't Wing Chun.

00:33:22.000 Nasty.

00:33:23.000 But what I was getting to is these guys, like MVP, that advantage is so huge.

00:33:29.000 The advantage of being Wonder Boy in his prime, bro, that advantage is so nuts.

00:33:34.000 Well, so I watch videos of people doing it online.

00:33:37.000 I'm like, if you could do that in an MMA fight, no one will catch you.

00:33:41.000 Right.

00:33:41.000 You'll be in and out before they catch you.

00:33:43.000 Who's the closest to it?

00:33:44.000 Cyril Gahn.

00:33:45.000 It's true.

00:33:46.000 Cyril Gahn is not a point fighting karate guy.

00:33:48.000 He's a Muay Thai, but he's a basketball player.

00:33:50.000 And we were talking about this the other day.

00:33:52.000 Like, what better sport to develop plyometrics and the ability to change direction than basketball?

00:33:57.000 You're constantly changing direction, and they're big men.

00:34:00.000 Then why can't basketball players fight?

00:34:02.000 They're the worst fighters on the planet.

00:34:03.000 Because they don't train.

00:34:04.000 That's true.

00:34:05.000 Just because they don't train.

00:34:06.000 But Cyril Gahn, you look at the way he moves, he moves like a basketball player can move, but he's 250 pounds and he's a heavyweight.

00:34:13.000 And he can fucking strike.

00:34:14.000 Yeah, I remember I used to train Walt Harris, who was a pretty good basketball player.

00:34:18.000 And I used to always try to tell him, man, it's the same thing.

00:34:21.000 Your pivots are the same.

00:34:22.000 You got to be able to move, change directions.

00:34:24.000 It's the same thing.

00:34:25.000 But as a heavyweight, it also comes with being lazy.

00:34:28.000 Those guys are just lazy.

00:34:28.000 Yes.

00:34:29.000 Well, it's harder to do it.

00:34:30.000 Hey, fuck you, Dean.

00:34:35.000 It's harder to move all that weight, right?

00:34:37.000 It's like it's hard to get a 248 pound guy to move like Cyril Gunn.

00:34:37.000 Yeah.

00:34:41.000 There's not a whole lot of them.

00:34:43.000 We were just talking about it the other day.

00:34:44.000 I think it's an underappreciated thing because we're used to lighter weight fighters moving like that.

00:34:48.000 But I'm like, name one.

00:34:50.000 Name one guy at heavyweight who moves like that.

00:34:52.000 You know who used to?

00:34:53.000 You know who used to?

00:34:54.000 Was the dark horse of the heavyweight division?

00:34:56.000 Travis fucking Brown.

00:34:57.000 When Travis Brown was in his prime, he was a bad motherfucker, dude.

00:35:03.000 And he moved light.

00:35:04.000 He was a big, tall dude and he moved light.

00:35:07.000 And Orlovsky used to.

00:35:09.000 He just had some, you know, wars.

00:35:12.000 And they take their toll on you.

00:35:12.000 Yeah.

00:35:14.000 But if you go back to like Travis Brown in his heyday when he was knocking people out with those elbows from the clinch and the way he would move, like he would move like super light on his feet, like bouncing around.

00:35:25.000 And I think it was because he played basketball.

00:35:28.000 It's got to be it.

00:35:29.000 100%.

00:35:30.000 It makes sense.

00:35:31.000 Because I know Travis played basketball.

00:35:33.000 You know, when you get a big athlete that's light on their feet, that's a giant advantage.

00:35:33.000 Yeah.

00:35:38.000 Yeah, it is.

00:35:39.000 Because you only need one entrance that you didn't anticipate when you get popped and now you're compromised.

00:35:44.000 And getting that first step and being able to get a pain shot.

00:35:48.000 Dude, those karate point fights.

00:35:49.000 I've only fought a couple of karate point fights when I was a kid, when I was doing Taekwondo tournaments.

00:35:53.000 We'd enter into them.

00:35:55.000 And I fought this one guy that was like, his name was Mafia Holloway.

00:35:58.000 He was like a champion.

00:36:00.000 I couldn't even touch him.

00:36:01.000 I couldn't even get close to him.

00:36:02.000 His first name was Mafia?

00:36:03.000 Mafia Holloway.

00:36:04.000 No, it was a very famous.

00:36:05.000 I don't know if it was his real name, but that's what his name was back in the day.

00:36:08.000 He was like a well known black belt point fighting champion.

00:36:08.000 Mafia.

00:36:12.000 I couldn't even touch him.

00:36:13.000 I was like, Jesus, we're playing totally different games.

00:36:15.000 I'm playing a continuous fighting game.

00:36:17.000 Which, where you're, you know, you fight in Taekwondo for a certain amount of minutes.

00:36:21.000 And he's playing this thing where you stop every time they hit you.

00:36:23.000 And so you can't hit him and he keeps hitting you.

00:36:26.000 Yeah.

00:36:26.000 And it's just stop, stop, stop, stop.

00:36:28.000 It's like, whoa.

00:36:29.000 It's so frustrating.

00:36:30.000 But I remember leaving going, ooh, I need to learn that.

00:36:33.000 Like, that's crazy.

00:36:34.000 I didn't know you could move that quick and just jump out of there the way he's doing it.

00:36:39.000 And I'm like, and you think about like these guys that fight him, like Kevin Holland that fight MVP.

00:36:43.000 Yeah.

00:36:43.000 After a while, they're like, what the fuck is this?

00:36:45.000 Yeah, for real.

00:36:46.000 He was in his corner saying that.

00:36:47.000 I can't do it.

00:36:49.000 He's quicker than I thought.

00:36:50.000 What am I doing here?

00:36:51.000 This is nuts.

00:36:53.000 You just can't do anything to him and he's styling on you.

00:36:56.000 Yeah, that's why when I trained Tyron to fight Steven Thompson, Wonderboy, I knew the mistake that everybody was making.

00:37:03.000 They were using just regular tall kickboxers.

00:37:06.000 I went to karate schools and we got just karate kids that did that for him to spar with.

00:37:15.000 And I was like, don't worry about takedowns.

00:37:16.000 We don't even need to get there.

00:37:18.000 Just be able to deal with this movement and his length and being able to deal with that because it's different.

00:37:24.000 What is this?

00:37:26.000 Oh, yeah, it's got a crazy kick here, right?

00:37:29.000 Dude was very good.

00:37:30.000 There is, he was very good.

00:37:32.000 He didn't get me with that, he got me with a couple of sidekicks to the body, though.

00:37:37.000 Tell you that, I was very impressed.

00:37:40.000 I was impressed by the speed in which he was able to like move forward and back because the darting in and just tagging each other speed is a totally different speed than like continuous fighting speed because continuous fighting speed.

00:37:52.000 You would assume that if the guy's hitting you, that you're going to counter and you're going to exchange.

00:37:57.000 And what these guys are used to is you never exchange.

00:38:00.000 They just pop you.

00:38:01.000 They pop you and they get the fuck out of there.

00:38:03.000 And that's an asset in MMA.

00:38:05.000 Giant asset.

00:38:05.000 Because you can just knock somebody out.

00:38:07.000 Giant asset.

00:38:08.000 It's a giant asset also.

00:38:10.000 If you try to play their game, you should just try to play their game just to realize how hard it is.

00:38:14.000 And you're like, oh, this is a different thing.

00:38:16.000 This is all about the blitz, it's all about the entry.

00:38:18.000 They switch stances at will, too.

00:38:20.000 At will.

00:38:21.000 At will.

00:38:21.000 Yeah.

00:38:22.000 But I think all the good guys do now.

00:38:24.000 I think that's going to be a pre-weck.

00:38:26.000 There's too many calf kickers out there.

00:38:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:38:28.000 You got to be able to switch.

00:38:31.000 Do you guys watch one?

00:38:32.000 You watch kickboxing and one?

00:38:34.000 Did you see Jonathan Haggerty and Yuki Yoza?

00:38:38.000 It wasn't good for Haggerty, was it?

00:38:40.000 No, he won.

00:38:40.000 He figured him out.

00:38:41.000 Haggerty was.

00:38:43.000 Ooh, he's the guy that beat that dude that was wrecking everybody.

00:38:47.000 He's an elbow guy.

00:38:49.000 Well, he's just a full on Muay Thai guy, but he beat him by continuous movement and switching stances.

00:38:54.000 Oh, right.

00:38:55.000 Shit, I think I sent the video.

00:38:57.000 I did see that.

00:38:59.000 Really technical.

00:39:01.000 For sure.

00:39:01.000 Like, if you really like striking, it's a really technical fight.

00:39:04.000 He did an amazing job of just constantly giving them different looks and switching stances and moving and then catching them in exchanges.

00:39:12.000 And, dude, it was fucking beautiful because Yosef crushes everybody's legs.

00:39:17.000 And he just kept switching stances.

00:39:17.000 It was really sweet.

00:39:19.000 Just kept switching stances.

00:39:20.000 And he did a lot of great boxing from the outside, too.

00:39:23.000 Yeah, it was just, but he never gave them the same look.

00:39:26.000 See that?

00:39:28.000 Like, look at that.

00:39:29.000 And then knees to the body, a lot of knees to the body.

00:39:31.000 It was beautiful.

00:39:32.000 Brilliant fight.

00:39:34.000 I was just chatting with him on Instagram.

00:39:37.000 I'm going to try to get him on.

00:39:38.000 Bring him to America.

00:39:38.000 Nice.

00:39:39.000 Like, it's this is what Zufa should be promoting.

00:39:43.000 You know, I mean, I know they love boxing.

00:39:44.000 That's awesome.

00:39:45.000 I'm glad they're doing that.

00:39:46.000 But, you know, this is it.

00:39:48.000 Yeah.

00:39:48.000 If you want another thing that's really exciting, it's striking.

00:39:51.000 Just have only Muay Thai.

00:39:53.000 I'm just surprised they haven't done that.

00:39:55.000 Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

00:39:56.000 Because that's what everybody likes to watch.

00:39:56.000 It really doesn't.

00:39:58.000 Everybody likes to do.

00:39:59.000 Dana said to me, I don't know if he changed his opinion, but he said to me that people don't like kickboxing because they think of like PKA karate from ESPN from like the 1980s.

00:40:09.000 I'm like, that's old people.

00:40:11.000 His kids don't even know what that is.

00:40:15.000 It's old people.

00:40:16.000 Young people love martial arts.

00:40:19.000 Like young people love knockouts.

00:40:21.000 Young people boo when fights go to the ground.

00:40:23.000 They do.

00:40:24.000 MMA is the best.

00:40:25.000 No doubt about it.

00:40:26.000 It's the greatest sport of all time.

00:40:27.000 It's the champion of sports.

00:40:28.000 However, if you're going to have some value in another combat sport, it's Muay Thai.

00:40:33.000 It's the most exciting shit.

00:40:35.000 You could do the most options.

00:40:36.000 You can knee.

00:40:37.000 They could throw each other.

00:40:38.000 They do all kinds of wild kicking.

00:40:41.000 You think Rico Verhoeven's boxing success will bring some eyes to kickboxing at all?

00:40:46.000 I hope so.

00:40:46.000 I'm having him on too.

00:40:48.000 I hope so.

00:40:48.000 Nice.

00:40:48.000 I hope so.

00:40:49.000 That was a great project.

00:40:50.000 He'd really.

00:40:51.000 I mean, dude, for 10 rounds, he really.

00:40:55.000 He was into the point where if you're good judges, if the judges are real, Usyk needs a knockout twin.

00:41:01.000 Yeah, a thousand percent.

00:41:02.000 Which is great.

00:41:03.000 I thought he was up by eight to one or two at the time.

00:41:06.000 I thought the same.

00:41:07.000 A lot of people thought the same.

00:41:08.000 I mean, he was bullying him around.

00:41:11.000 He didn't use his weight well.

00:41:11.000 He was moving.

00:41:13.000 Did he shit on the cardio equipment?

00:41:14.000 He took out himself and it was phenomenal.

00:41:16.000 Because he put my style against Usyk and it was.

00:41:20.000 Jim Carrey and it fucking.

00:41:22.000 What's the one where he comes boxing at the guys?

00:41:25.000 It all been looked like it, too.

00:41:27.000 It was fucking phenomenal.

00:41:28.000 But, man, he really did amazing.

00:41:30.000 I personally think if they rematch, that now Usyk will kind of figure them out.

00:41:36.000 So maybe it'll get him faster.

00:41:39.000 Look, I hope not because I was rooting for Rico.

00:41:41.000 If they rematch, Rico was going to know that he can do that.

00:41:45.000 Like, before that fight, he didn't know he could do that.

00:41:47.000 And Usyk didn't know he could do that.

00:41:48.000 And the difference is, Usyk is not a real heavyweight.

00:41:51.000 He's the greatest heavyweight of all time, which is crazy.

00:41:54.000 But he's not a real heavyweight.

00:41:55.000 You can't say the greatest.

00:41:55.000 Right.

00:41:56.000 Like Tyson, in my opinion, is always going to be my favorite in his prime.

00:41:59.000 Yeah.

00:42:00.000 He was just so insane.

00:42:01.000 It was so insane to watch him just demolish the whole division.

00:42:03.000 For real.

00:42:04.000 But then you look at Cassius Clay, and then when he was Muhammad Ali, and Larry Holmes doesn't get his due, and Lennox Lewis was a fucking beast.

00:42:12.000 So maybe, you know, who knows who would have fought.

00:42:14.000 But that guy, stylistically, is like the greatest heavyweight ever.

00:42:18.000 Like watching him move the way he did.

00:42:21.000 Yeah, like skill for skill.

00:42:22.000 You're watching an artist.

00:42:23.000 Yeah.

00:42:24.000 It's like the way he put it on Dubois.

00:42:27.000 Oh, my God.

00:42:27.000 Yeah.

00:42:29.000 Yeah.

00:42:29.000 He's incredible, but he's still really a 220 pound guy.

00:42:33.000 Yeah.

00:42:33.000 You know, like he puts on some extra weight.

00:42:36.000 He was a little thicker for that fight.

00:42:38.000 But, you know, Rico's huge.

00:42:42.000 He's a giant guy.

00:42:43.000 Rico's a giant guy from the Netherlands.

00:42:46.000 Is that where he's from?

00:42:47.000 That's a real heavyweight guy.

00:42:48.000 Another Dutch kickboxer.

00:42:50.000 They're all giants.

00:42:51.000 They're all tough as shit.

00:42:52.000 What is he, like 6'5, 270?

00:42:54.000 He's huge.

00:42:55.000 260.

00:42:56.000 He's got crazy cardio, too, for a big giant guy.

00:42:58.000 He was bouncing on, I mean, he was for 10 rounds, he kept that pace as a heavyweight.

00:43:03.000 Keeping that pace.

00:43:04.000 And then once he slowed, you know, that's when Usyk was able to find him.

00:43:08.000 Did you watch it, Matt?

00:43:09.000 I can't watch.

00:43:11.000 I have a hard time watching anything but fucking mixed martial arts.

00:43:15.000 I love Jiu Jitsu.

00:43:16.000 And Star Wars.

00:43:17.000 I love Jiu Jitsu.

00:43:18.000 Yeah, well, you know, Star Wars.

00:43:20.000 I saw the new He Man movie, by the way.

00:43:23.000 How was it?

00:43:24.000 It was fucking good.

00:43:25.000 The Masters of the Universe was good.

00:43:25.000 Really?

00:43:28.000 I was worried because I'm thinking all the new reboots and this and that.

00:43:32.000 I go, is it going to be too woke?

00:43:34.000 Is it going to be this?

00:43:35.000 It was fucking fun.

00:43:37.000 It had a Thor Ragnarok type feel where it's just kind of fun and a little goofy, but not to the point where it's just takes you out of it.

00:43:46.000 You know what it is?

00:43:47.000 I grew up with that He Man.

00:43:48.000 Yeah.

00:43:49.000 That was my kid.

00:43:50.000 Yeah, I remember.

00:43:51.000 Around our age, right?

00:43:52.000 Yeah, right.

00:43:53.000 So it did justice to that.

00:43:55.000 Like, you know, it made it fun.

00:43:57.000 It was a heritage.

00:43:58.000 Skeletor was awesome.

00:44:00.000 Yeah.

00:44:00.000 Wasn't that Jared Leto playing that?

00:44:02.000 Yeah.

00:44:02.000 I heard there was, like, some sort of crazy, like, he wasn't allowed to do interviews, wasn't allowed to talk to the rest of the cast.

00:44:08.000 Yeah, I heard that.

00:44:08.000 Why?

00:44:09.000 Because they're worried he's going to do nutty shit.

00:44:11.000 Like, in the Joker, he was like sending people dead rats in the mail and stuff.

00:44:14.000 Oh, really?

00:44:15.000 Yeah, doing like, because he was in character.

00:44:18.000 You know?

00:44:18.000 Yeah.

00:44:19.000 That's fucking awesome.

00:44:19.000 So they're like, yeah, you're going to be an evil fucking skeletor guy?

00:44:23.000 No, we can't let you be in character.

00:44:23.000 No.

00:44:25.000 You can't contact the rest of the crew.

00:44:27.000 I don't know if that's true.

00:44:28.000 That's what I heard, but it was fun.

00:44:29.000 See if that's true.

00:44:31.000 No, I heard that too.

00:44:32.000 I heard Will Smith said something about that.

00:44:34.000 Yeah, I thought somebody said that.

00:44:36.000 I know he definitely did that with the Joker.

00:44:38.000 Yeah, he was the Joker, yeah.

00:44:40.000 Yeah.

00:44:41.000 Said, I know you're playing the Joker, but come on with the rest.

00:44:43.000 Yeah, yeah, you would chill out.

00:44:44.000 But all that shit.

00:44:45.000 There's some dudes that played the Joker and you're like, all right, it's over.

00:44:48.000 Hey, I heard.

00:44:48.000 When Heath Ledger played the Joker, everybody stopped.

00:44:51.000 That's the Joker.

00:44:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:52.000 You can't come back after that.

00:44:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:54.000 Until Joaquin.

00:44:55.000 Joaquin Phoenix.

00:44:56.000 Yeah, he's a great guy.

00:44:57.000 I saw that.

00:44:58.000 I was like, okay, now that's the Joker.

00:44:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:45:01.000 Then you saw the sequel and you said, fuck that, bring that.

00:45:03.000 I didn't see the sequel.

00:45:05.000 Tim Dillon told me it was the worst movie that's ever been made.

00:45:08.000 Everybody said that.

00:45:10.000 I didn't see it either.

00:45:12.000 I didn't make it either.

00:45:12.000 I didn't watch it.

00:45:13.000 If I was guessing.

00:45:15.000 He probably didn't want to do it.

00:45:17.000 I don't know what they were thinking.

00:45:19.000 I bet it was like a dispute between the movie company and the dude who directed it.

00:45:25.000 Why would you do that?

00:45:26.000 Unless you're trying to mock it or you're trying to diffuse it.

00:45:30.000 Maybe the government was like, hey, after you released that movie, we had the BLM riots and everybody was lighting LA on fire.

00:45:36.000 Hey, maybe don't have a movie where you're encouraging people to light cities on fire.

00:45:41.000 Maybe make a musical.

00:45:42.000 So crazy.

00:45:44.000 He's trying to diffuse the Joker movement.

00:45:47.000 With a musical.

00:45:49.000 It's funny how the first.

00:45:50.000 I've never seen a.

00:45:51.000 I mean, sequels aren't normally as good as the original, but holy fuck.

00:45:55.000 I've never seen something so bad.

00:45:58.000 I didn't make it through it.

00:45:59.000 I saw some of it, and then I'm like, once I started singing, I'm like, I'm out of this motherfucker.

00:46:03.000 It's very rare where a sequel, you're like, damn, that's just as good.

00:46:07.000 Well, Terminator 2, Empire Strikes Back.

00:46:10.000 Those are a couple.

00:46:11.000 Those are a couple.

00:46:11.000 Rocky 2.

00:46:13.000 You didn't like Rocky 2?

00:46:15.000 John Wick, too.

00:46:16.000 I like Rocky 1s, obviously.

00:46:17.000 Why did he take it to the zoo in the beginning?

00:46:20.000 Why?

00:46:21.000 I never could get over that.

00:46:26.000 I like the zoo.

00:46:28.000 The whole joke was that mean bodyguard saying, Take it to the zoo.

00:46:32.000 The retards like this.

00:46:33.000 And then he takes her to the fucking zoo to propose to her.

00:46:37.000 Is that not crazy?

00:46:38.000 Yeah, that is.

00:46:39.000 Bro, that's how people were in the 70s.

00:46:40.000 They were animals.

00:46:42.000 But he's basically just saying that, right?

00:46:44.000 He's talking about.

00:46:44.000 You're a PG tumble before the internet.

00:46:44.000 You're right.

00:46:46.000 Man, are you still doing movie reviews on your channel?

00:46:50.000 Oh, you're trying to plug my channel?

00:46:53.000 No, well, I'm saying, you know what I'm watching on there?

00:47:01.000 I do series reactions or movies reactions.

00:47:01.000 I do.

00:47:05.000 Are you watching The New House of Dragon?

00:47:07.000 No, I haven't seen it yet.

00:47:09.000 There's too many things to watch.

00:47:10.000 Let me tell you something.

00:47:10.000 I'm fucked.

00:47:11.000 I'm in the middle of from.

00:47:12.000 I want to talk to you about that, too.

00:47:14.000 My wife's mad at from.

00:47:16.000 You know what?

00:47:16.000 Don't tell me why.

00:47:18.000 It might be a headache.

00:47:20.000 I'm on season four, episode four.

00:47:22.000 Five, I think.

00:47:23.000 I think four or five.

00:47:24.000 Is it five?

00:47:25.000 Oh, there's only four.

00:47:26.000 Four.

00:47:26.000 And then the fifth one is the final season.

00:47:28.000 It doesn't come out until 2027.

00:47:29.000 So don't tell me.

00:47:30.000 Shoot.

00:47:30.000 All right, all right.

00:47:31.000 Hey, House of Dragon.

00:47:32.000 Now, look, I love Game of Thrones.

00:47:35.000 The Night of the Seven Kingdoms was phenomenal.

00:47:38.000 And House of Dragons, out of all of them, is the one I like the least because it's a lot of just gloom and doom.

00:47:43.000 All the characters are pricks.

00:47:45.000 They're all a bunch of fucking wacky, tugging idiots.

00:47:46.000 Yeah, there's no one to like.

00:47:47.000 No one's noble.

00:47:47.000 Exactly.

00:47:48.000 But this one, this third season, is fucking.

00:47:52.000 That's good.

00:47:53.000 Yeah, I do the reactions on my channel.

00:47:55.000 What is the channel?

00:47:55.000 Thanks, Dean.

00:47:56.000 The Matt Serret Channel on YouTube.

00:47:58.000 Oh, look at this.

00:47:59.000 Oh, it's contemplating.

00:48:00.000 Oh, that's me.

00:48:03.000 It's like he's contemplating House of the Dragons.

00:48:06.000 No, no, know what this is.

00:48:08.000 Do you ever see Mystery Science Theater?

00:48:10.000 That was my Mystery Science Theater.

00:48:12.000 Yeah, well, they showed the back of their head.

00:48:14.000 You're the former UFC welterweight champion of the world.

00:48:17.000 You're doing this.

00:48:18.000 And you're sitting there with the headphones on.

00:48:20.000 This is great.

00:48:20.000 This is what I think about House of Dragons.

00:48:22.000 Yeah.

00:48:23.000 I thought you made me sound.

00:48:25.000 You didn't have to do that.

00:48:27.000 That's 200 milligrams of edibles right there.

00:48:31.000 It's 55 milligrams.

00:48:32.000 You know what scene I really love when they were trying to find Targaryens?

00:48:36.000 Because the Targaryens had a bunch of bastard children.

00:48:38.000 Yeah.

00:48:38.000 Trying to see who's a Targaryen, so they Put people out with the dragons.

00:48:41.000 I was burning them up.

00:48:43.000 The prior seasons had some good scenes like that.

00:48:47.000 But this season, I just watched three of them so far.

00:48:50.000 Each one of them is nothing but fighting now.

00:48:53.000 It's nothing but going at it.

00:48:55.000 Let's go.

00:48:56.000 And it's fucking good.

00:48:57.000 Yeah, it's good.

00:48:59.000 I watched the whole season of all the episodes of Game of Thrones recently.

00:49:03.000 You went back and started reading it?

00:49:05.000 Yeah, we watched it for like four or five months.

00:49:07.000 Watched every one of them.

00:49:08.000 And when you watch it every couple nights a week, like two, three nights a week, when you're watching it, It's like you just follow, you don't have to wait like years in between seasons.

00:49:17.000 It's incredible.

00:49:17.000 It's better that way.

00:49:18.000 It's the greatest epic adventure show in the history of the world.

00:49:23.000 I tell people that all the time.

00:49:25.000 I'm like, you got to watch it.

00:49:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:49:27.000 Good, dude.

00:49:27.000 For sure.

00:49:28.000 I forgot how good it was.

00:49:29.000 And even though it's 10 years old, special effects are perfect.

00:49:32.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:49:33.000 I'm going to say something I never said in my life.

00:49:35.000 There's a new book I'm reading.

00:49:37.000 What?

00:49:38.000 Hey, guys.

00:49:40.000 Hold on, wait a minute.

00:49:41.000 Wait a minute.

00:49:42.000 Hey, guys.

00:49:42.000 Wait a minute.

00:49:43.000 Audible.

00:49:44.000 Is it a graphic novel?

00:49:46.000 Son of a.

00:49:47.000 Bitch, no, it's not.

00:49:49.000 It is, um, and all right, I gotta be honest.

00:49:51.000 I'm listening to the audiobook.

00:49:53.000 Okay, people say they're reading a book when they really listen to the audiobook.

00:49:56.000 Donnell Rollins gave me so much about that.

00:49:58.000 He's like, How you reading when you just listened?

00:50:03.000 I'm just trying to abbreviate it.

00:50:05.000 Yes, I listened to an audiobook.

00:50:06.000 Sorry, read and sit down and read it.

00:50:10.000 Rising, have you ever heard of this?

00:50:11.000 No, well, you're gonna document this episode because sooner or later, someone's gonna pick it up and it's gonna become either an Amazon series or a movie.

00:50:20.000 My one of my black belts, Jedi Joey Beans, told me about this ages ago.

00:50:23.000 What a great name!

00:50:24.000 Yeah, Jedi Joey Beans.

00:50:26.000 Oh, Joey Beans is savage, but Jedi Joey Beans is a great name.

00:50:32.000 He's great, but uh, he likes all the shit I'm into, so he told me about this.

00:50:36.000 I'm gonna write it down.

00:50:37.000 What is it called again?

00:50:38.000 Red Rising.

00:50:39.000 All right, that's it.

00:50:41.000 And uh, I'll tell you, I don't know how many books there are, but I'm listening to the first one, and I'm like more than halfway through, and it's what's it about.

00:50:51.000 Set in future on Mars.

00:50:53.000 Whoa.

00:50:55.000 Red Rising is a 2014 dystopian science fiction novel.

00:50:59.000 You guys are a bunch of fucking ones, first of all.

00:51:03.000 You guys are a bunch of fucking.

00:51:07.000 This is why I got into my shorts.

00:51:09.000 My shorts are telling us he's reading my short friend.

00:51:12.000 His short book.

00:51:13.000 His short book.

00:51:14.000 Telling us he's reading and dystopian comes out.

00:51:17.000 Somebody else read it.

00:51:21.000 Bunch of pricks.

00:51:22.000 Hey, listen to me.

00:51:24.000 This is a great book.

00:51:26.000 This is a great book.

00:51:28.000 And I like getting into something new.

00:51:30.000 Well, how long is the book?

00:51:31.000 That's regular coffee.

00:51:32.000 There's a cup if you want coffee.

00:51:33.000 You know what?

00:51:34.000 Unless you want a little baby, I was trying to figure out what you're gonna do with that.

00:51:38.000 I didn't know what I was doing.

00:51:40.000 I'm down for that.

00:51:41.000 I'm down for that.

00:51:42.000 Yeah, the Red Rising man, that was really good.

00:51:45.000 Pass me that coffee, man.

00:51:46.000 It's like Game of Thrones in space.

00:51:49.000 Oh, I'm in.

00:51:50.000 I'm in.

00:51:51.000 Oh, you know what?

00:51:51.000 I started watching because of you guys that Battlestar Galactica.

00:51:55.000 That's fucking great.

00:51:57.000 I'm like, I'm only on the first season.

00:51:59.000 There's like 20 episodes a season.

00:52:01.000 I'm like, I'm like 10 in right now.

00:52:02.000 Yeah, that was the sci fi channel, bro.

00:52:04.000 That show was so underrated.

00:52:06.000 So underrated.

00:52:07.000 Like to this day, if you go back and watch Battlestar Galactica, the entire series, it's fucking incredible.

00:52:12.000 Very good.

00:52:13.000 The new one, not the old one.

00:52:14.000 The one from the 70s.

00:52:15.000 The 70s.

00:52:16.000 The original.

00:52:17.000 High or command.

00:52:18.000 That's right.

00:52:18.000 Yeah.

00:52:19.000 Here's one I'm going to recommend.

00:52:20.000 You can watch it with your wife or by yourself, whatever you want to do.

00:52:23.000 Porn?

00:52:24.000 What's that?

00:52:25.000 You're going to say porn?

00:52:26.000 That's always going to say porn.

00:52:28.000 Or by yourself.

00:52:30.000 Widow's Bay.

00:52:31.000 Widow's Bay.

00:52:32.000 Oh, okay.

00:52:33.000 What is that?

00:52:34.000 Apple TV comes out with some fucking bangers.

00:52:36.000 Bangers.

00:52:37.000 Silo's another great one.

00:52:38.000 But Widow's Bay.

00:52:41.000 It's very rare.

00:52:43.000 It's about an island that's kind of cursed, and a mayor's trying to get it to become like the next fucking Martha's Vineyard, whatever that is.

00:52:50.000 And, you know, this is it.

00:52:52.000 That guy was in The Beast Within.

00:52:52.000 Oh, that guy.

00:52:54.000 This is great.

00:52:56.000 Bro, that guy's in another great fucking series that also might be Apple.

00:53:00.000 It might be.

00:53:01.000 It's very rare that something.

00:53:03.000 I don't like.

00:53:04.000 Like, my family's a bunch of ghouls, except for my oldest.

00:53:06.000 They like all the horror shit.

00:53:07.000 I'm not into it.

00:53:08.000 But it's very rare.

00:53:09.000 I like spooky shit.

00:53:11.000 So it's like spooky.

00:53:12.000 But it's fucking funny.

00:53:15.000 It's got like a quirky type humor to it.

00:53:18.000 And I was fucking dying.

00:53:19.000 I was nice.

00:53:20.000 The Beast in Me is another one.

00:53:22.000 It was, what was it on?

00:53:24.000 Netflix?

00:53:25.000 It's on Netflix.

00:53:26.000 It's still on Netflix.

00:53:28.000 It's a series.

00:53:29.000 And it's about an author and this fucking psychotic guy that is a rich guy who lives in her neighborhood.

00:53:34.000 I don't want to tell you any more than that.

00:53:35.000 It's a movie?

00:53:36.000 It's Claire Daines.

00:53:37.000 Yeah, I saw that.

00:53:38.000 Claire Daines and that guy Matthew.

00:53:39.000 You watched that show?

00:53:41.000 I didn't watch it.

00:53:42.000 Dude, it's funny.

00:53:43.000 Is it good?

00:53:43.000 Good.

00:53:44.000 Claire Daines can act her ass off.

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00:54:20.000 You never know if she was lying to you.

00:54:22.000 Right?

00:54:23.000 You have no idea.

00:54:24.000 There's just fucking no way you're going to tell.

00:54:27.000 The lip quiver.

00:54:29.000 Bro, she could lie her ass off.

00:54:31.000 She's fantastic on that.

00:54:34.000 It got 98% on Rotten Tomatoes.

00:54:35.000 That's how good it is.

00:54:36.000 It's a great show.

00:54:38.000 The Beast in Me.

00:54:39.000 Yeah, there's too much shit to watch.

00:54:40.000 There's so much shit.

00:54:40.000 I just started The Pit, so I'm like, and I'm late on that, so.

00:54:43.000 What's The Pit?

00:54:44.000 About the ER room in Pittsburgh.

00:54:48.000 Yeah, she plays a doctor in the ER room.

00:54:48.000 Oh.

00:54:50.000 It's really good, though.

00:54:51.000 Okay.

00:54:52.000 There's some I'm into for a while, then I just fucking fall over.

00:54:55.000 There's too many shows.

00:54:55.000 I never heard of it.

00:54:56.000 Yeah.

00:54:57.000 I did that with Landman.

00:54:58.000 After a while, I'm just like.

00:55:00.000 New season of Landman's good.

00:55:01.000 I don't give a shit about the slutty wife and the daughters annoying me.

00:55:04.000 I love her.

00:55:05.000 She's your favorite.

00:55:06.000 She plays the stripper wife well.

00:55:10.000 After a while, it's just like, all right.

00:55:12.000 They get to some interesting shit, or like the cartels after them, and then they're, oh, let's take the seniors out to the strip joint.

00:55:20.000 It's like, all right.

00:55:22.000 Here we go.

00:55:23.000 Being outrageous again.

00:55:23.000 Oh, the wife.

00:55:25.000 I mean, it's not true to me.

00:55:27.000 I mean, I don't got my ADD.

00:55:29.000 I can't take it.

00:55:30.000 That's funny.

00:55:31.000 Now, that was my problem with it, too.

00:55:32.000 I thought that the women were like caricatures of women.

00:55:35.000 Yeah, come on, man.

00:55:36.000 It was too much.

00:55:37.000 Who's cheering their daughter on?

00:55:39.000 Basically, to be a hoe.

00:55:40.000 I was kind of like, this ain't too much.

00:55:43.000 I have a question, though, if you guys all seen it.

00:55:46.000 Why do they live together?

00:55:48.000 Like, the other lawyer, why do they all live with Billy Bob Thornton and his family?

00:55:53.000 That's a plot point.

00:55:54.000 Yeah.

00:55:55.000 Yeah, there's no other reason why they're.

00:55:57.000 Yeah, because there's only one house on the ranch or something.

00:56:00.000 I don't know.

00:56:01.000 And they all have to live in the one house.

00:56:01.000 Because I'm just like.

00:56:03.000 It's his office and his home, basically.

00:56:05.000 His office is home.

00:56:06.000 It makes it fun, but isn't he making a lot of money?

00:56:09.000 Shouldn't all of them be making a lot of money?

00:56:11.000 Yeah, you would think his lawyer would be making big bank.

00:56:14.000 Well, now he's got to be making money because now he's running the company.

00:56:16.000 Spoiler alert.

00:56:18.000 Yeah, she's making sure they're eating their vegetables.

00:56:18.000 So he's making more money.

00:56:21.000 Yeah, they're doing it.

00:56:23.000 I can't get mad about it.

00:56:25.000 Anything.

00:56:26.000 I love Billy Bob, though.

00:56:28.000 Billy Bob on that show is so good.

00:56:30.000 He makes the show.

00:56:31.000 He makes the show.

00:56:32.000 He's 100%.

00:56:33.000 Taylor said that he wouldn't have even made the show if it wasn't for Billy.

00:56:36.000 Really?

00:56:36.000 He went to Billy with the idea.

00:56:37.000 He goes, I'm not going to make this if you're not going to be here.

00:56:39.000 Yeah, he made the show.

00:56:40.000 I thought Andy Garcia was good in it too.

00:56:42.000 Oh, Andy Garcia.

00:56:43.000 He's great in everything.

00:56:43.000 He's great in it.

00:56:44.000 Yeah.

00:56:44.000 You ever see things to do in Denver when you're dead?

00:56:46.000 Hell yeah.

00:56:47.000 Longo loves that lemon.

00:56:59.000 I hate that movie.

00:57:14.000 There's a bunch of movies like that.

00:57:16.000 You try to watch them.

00:57:16.000 They're terrible.

00:57:17.000 Yeah.

00:57:19.000 Sometimes he's just better off remembering how good they used to be.

00:57:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:23.000 Well, the impact.

00:57:24.000 You were just a more naive person before the internet.

00:57:27.000 Yeah, true.

00:57:28.000 I watched one of the worst movies that was so fucking good that it was bad.

00:57:34.000 It was Rowdy Roddy Piper.

00:57:38.000 Rowdy Roddy Piper.

00:57:40.000 Yes.

00:57:41.000 100 milligrams.

00:57:43.000 We saw him last night too, Joey.

00:57:46.000 Joey.

00:57:47.000 That's right.

00:57:49.000 Hell comes to Frogstown.

00:57:51.000 Oh, I didn't see that.

00:57:52.000 Now, it's a combination of, say, like Mad Max, like a post apocalyptic thing, and Escape from New York, where in the future, Rowdy is the only guy who's not fucking sterile.

00:58:08.000 Everybody else is sterile.

00:58:10.000 I am sure everybody's chasing him for it.

00:58:12.000 So they have to, like, it starts off when he's in, like, a fucking general's room because he got caught with the general's daughter.

00:58:19.000 And fucking, they put a.

00:58:22.000 A jock strap on him with explosives.

00:58:26.000 And he has to.

00:58:27.000 He has to.

00:58:27.000 Oh, my God.

00:58:28.000 Is he talking to a frog?

00:58:30.000 Yeah, oh, yeah.

00:58:31.000 Yeah.

00:58:32.000 So he has.

00:58:33.000 His mission is to go to this frog's town, and there's a harem there, and he's got to impregnate everybody, or else they're going to fucking blow them up.

00:58:42.000 Sounds like a horrible job.

00:58:43.000 It's crazy.

00:58:43.000 It is.

00:58:44.000 This movie.

00:58:47.000 What a silly movie.

00:58:48.000 Oh, yeah, no, no.

00:58:49.000 Oh, my God.

00:58:50.000 You can't unsee it.

00:58:51.000 So he cut out.

00:58:52.000 Frogtown?

00:58:53.000 This is amazing.

00:58:54.000 He cut out halfway through things to do in Denver when you're dead.

00:58:58.000 But he's in for Frogtown.

00:59:00.000 Yeah, but I agree.

00:59:02.000 With this, you know what you're getting into.

00:59:04.000 It's not a bunch of people pretending to be cool.

00:59:07.000 You know, it's like this is just silly.

00:59:09.000 How did you even find this and then sit down and watch the whole thing?

00:59:13.000 This is the thing.

00:59:14.000 Well, you know, it's well documented about my ass problems.

00:59:17.000 So sometimes I spend a lot of time on the throne and I got my iPad.

00:59:22.000 So I go to Prime Video.

00:59:24.000 And it's almost like when I was little, like I used to go through the channels, and I'm like up all night, I'd find something wacky.

00:59:29.000 So I look for weird or different movies, and that's one of them.

00:59:34.000 And it just brought me right in.

00:59:37.000 I watched that whole movie.

00:59:39.000 In two shits, I watched that whole fucking movie.

00:59:41.000 What was the one when he was an alien?

00:59:43.000 That's a crazy amount of time to shit.

00:59:44.000 Was it called They?

00:59:46.000 I'm on the play.

00:59:46.000 Or whatever.

00:59:47.000 I've been on the play for a long time.

00:59:48.000 No, it's crazy.

00:59:50.000 It's crazy to shit for two hours, you're saying?

00:59:52.000 A little.

00:59:52.000 Well, not for two hours, but.

00:59:54.000 The budget for this movie was double what that movie Obsession was that just came out.

00:59:58.000 That's almost.

00:59:59.000 My wife said that movie was great.

01:00:01.000 So the budget was $1.5 million back then.

01:00:04.000 Yeah, in 1988.

01:00:05.000 Wow.

01:00:06.000 So was this a small release?

01:00:08.000 Yeah, it has to be.

01:00:10.000 Who made this movie?

01:00:11.000 What was the company that made New World?

01:00:13.000 That's a big company.

01:00:14.000 Maybe they sold it to New World.

01:00:16.000 I don't know how that shit worked.

01:00:17.000 Was this before or after They Live?

01:00:19.000 Well, They Live was good.

01:00:20.000 They Live was good.

01:00:21.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:00:22.000 Maybe they bankrolled it.

01:00:23.000 But I bet if you tried to watch.

01:00:25.000 Return to Frogtown was released on 93.

01:00:28.000 He was in the movie.

01:00:29.000 Direct to VHS.

01:00:30.000 Bro, before even DVD, they're like, no.

01:00:33.000 Fuck this.

01:00:34.000 Straight to tape.

01:00:37.000 Now, listen, everybody, don't go watching this and cursing me.

01:00:40.000 I mean, you got to know what you're getting into.

01:00:43.000 It's exactly what it looks like.

01:00:44.000 TV guy only gave it two out of five stars.

01:00:46.000 How dare they?

01:00:47.000 DVD talk said three.

01:00:49.000 But I'll tell you, he's hysterical in it.

01:00:53.000 He's fucking.

01:00:53.000 He's flawed it for some reason.

01:00:56.000 I bet if we watched They Live right now, we wouldn't like it.

01:00:58.000 I bet we'd be like, oh, this is going to be.

01:00:59.000 I mean, it's still pretty funny if you watch it.

01:01:01.000 Is it good?

01:01:01.000 When was the last time you saw it?

01:01:03.000 I mean, it's one of those movies when you're flipping around if it's on.

01:01:06.000 Because him and the.

01:01:07.000 What's the.

01:01:08.000 His guy's name.

01:01:09.000 Remember, they had basically a wrestling match in the fucking alley.

01:01:11.000 They were suplexing.

01:01:12.000 The Black Eye for a minute.

01:01:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:15.000 There's movies from like the 80s and the 90s.

01:01:17.000 There it is.

01:01:19.000 There's movies from the 80s and the 90s that become comedies.

01:01:23.000 Like they used to be.

01:01:23.000 Yeah.

01:01:24.000 This is a comedy, right?

01:01:25.000 But this is kind of a comedy.

01:01:26.000 This is like a little tongue in cheek.

01:01:28.000 But then there's stuff like Roadhouse.

01:01:30.000 Right, right, right.

01:01:31.000 Roadhouse is a comedy now.

01:01:32.000 Right, for sure.

01:01:33.000 You know what?

01:01:33.000 Roadhouse is such a bad movie.

01:01:36.000 It's so bad.

01:01:36.000 Yeah.

01:01:37.000 I mean, it's so insanely bad.

01:01:39.000 The bad guy's bad.

01:01:40.000 The writing is bad.

01:01:41.000 Everything is bad.

01:01:42.000 Everything's bad except for Patrick Swayze's hair.

01:01:44.000 That's amazing.

01:01:46.000 It was appropriate at the time.

01:01:48.000 But back in the 80s, everything was cheesy.

01:01:50.000 We were dumb.

01:01:51.000 People were dumb back then.

01:01:53.000 That's what I think.

01:01:54.000 I think we were dumb.

01:01:55.000 Miami Vice.

01:01:56.000 No internet.

01:01:57.000 People were stupid.

01:01:58.000 It's true.

01:02:00.000 We were only exposed to what we were exposed to in your area.

01:02:03.000 Yeah.

01:02:03.000 We thought.

01:02:04.000 That's a solid movie.

01:02:06.000 You should go see Roadhouse.

01:02:08.000 I'll tell you what, that's a good guy.

01:02:09.000 You're going to root for him.

01:02:10.000 Yeah.

01:02:11.000 He's complicated, but he's tough.

01:02:13.000 He's quiet and he likes poetry.

01:02:15.000 Fucks people up and he says, Pain don't hurt.

01:02:17.000 I was about to say that.

01:02:19.000 Pain don't hurt.

01:02:20.000 The karate scenes are so bad.

01:02:22.000 Like everything is so fake.

01:02:24.000 It's so dumb looking.

01:02:26.000 But it's still awesome.

01:02:28.000 They brought Sam Elliott in as backup.

01:02:30.000 Had an 80 year old backup.

01:02:31.000 But dude, clearly could barely walk.

01:02:33.000 He's KOing guys left and right.

01:02:36.000 That's it, Miho.

01:02:38.000 He's awesome in everything, though.

01:02:40.000 Sam Elliott's everything.

01:02:41.000 Every time you see Sam Elliott in a movie, you're like, yes.

01:02:44.000 Hang in there.

01:02:45.000 I think the bad guys, didn't he tell Patrick, what's his name, that he was going to fuck, that he used to fuck guys like him in prison?

01:02:52.000 Yes.

01:02:53.000 Yes.

01:02:53.000 Sam Elliott, that's the one who played Land Man's father, right?

01:02:57.000 Yeah.

01:02:57.000 Yes.

01:02:58.000 He's always good.

01:02:58.000 He's awesome.

01:02:59.000 Yeah, he's great.

01:03:00.000 Always in everything.

01:03:01.000 He's real life Marlboro, man.

01:03:03.000 Exactly.

01:03:03.000 Yeah.

01:03:04.000 He's great in everything.

01:03:05.000 Yeah, that movie was so bad.

01:03:07.000 But the thing is, back then it wasn't.

01:03:11.000 Yeah, everything in the 80s was bad, though.

01:03:13.000 TV shows were insane.

01:03:14.000 You watch them, you're like, what were they doing?

01:03:16.000 Trying to brainwash America.

01:03:17.000 Roger Ebert's review is that this is right on the edge of a good, bad movie and merely the bad.

01:03:24.000 It's not a good movie.

01:03:25.000 Well, he's right.

01:03:26.000 It's not a good movie.

01:03:27.000 But viewed in the right frame of mind, it's not a boring one either.

01:03:30.000 Ah, that's the thing.

01:03:32.000 Gene Siskel was less complimentary, calling it outrageous in terms of its cartoon like plotting and dialogue, and lamenting Swayze's mindless posturing.

01:03:41.000 A young star has sold himself to become a pinup boy.

01:03:45.000 Someone sounds a little jelly.

01:03:46.000 Come on.

01:03:47.000 Someone sounds a little jelly.

01:03:49.000 That sounds a little jelly to me.

01:03:52.000 It's called Get Made.

01:03:53.000 Yeah, he made a movie.

01:03:55.000 Thought it was going to be better than it was.

01:03:56.000 Okay, let's move on.

01:03:56.000 Right.

01:03:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:03:58.000 Right.

01:03:59.000 It looks like an occult classic.

01:04:00.000 To this day, people are still talking about it.

01:04:02.000 Bro, basically, every actor that's ever lived has been in a couple lemons.

01:04:06.000 Of course.

01:04:07.000 That's part of the process.

01:04:08.000 Except maybe Daniel Day Lewis.

01:04:11.000 He's probably a little bit more.

01:04:12.000 Maybe that Lincoln one.

01:04:13.000 A lot of people didn't watch that Lincoln one.

01:04:16.000 That might be the only one.

01:04:18.000 I don't know anybody who raves about the Lincoln movie.

01:04:22.000 What about the vampire hunt of Abraham Lincoln?

01:04:25.000 That was a crazy movie.

01:04:26.000 Did anybody see that?

01:04:27.000 I never saw that.

01:04:28.000 That was Daniel Bailey's.

01:04:29.000 That's like something that I know.

01:04:30.000 Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter is crazy.

01:04:35.000 That should have been made in the 80s.

01:04:37.000 There should have been.

01:04:37.000 No.

01:04:38.000 It should have been made in the 80s.

01:04:40.000 Yeah, it's like a comic book.

01:04:41.000 Did anybody see it?

01:04:42.000 That sounds like a Marvel comic.

01:04:43.000 I didn't see it.

01:04:44.000 It sounds like something I would watch.

01:04:46.000 It sounds like something I would recommend.

01:04:48.000 It's funny.

01:04:48.000 Was it good?

01:04:49.000 The Vampire Hunter?

01:04:51.000 Yeah, it was.

01:04:53.000 To me, it was like a comedy thing.

01:04:54.000 I might have seen it and forgotten about it.

01:04:56.000 I don't even remember if I saw it.

01:04:56.000 Yeah.

01:04:57.000 I mean,.

01:04:58.000 You get high enough when you watch the movies.

01:05:00.000 They're cool, but you don't really remember details all the time.

01:05:03.000 So, yeah, you know what I'm looking forward to?

01:05:06.000 That new werewolf movie.

01:05:08.000 Oh, Edgar's guy, the same guy that did Nosferato.

01:05:11.000 Yeah.

01:05:11.000 He's doing a werewolf.

01:05:12.000 They just released a trailer.

01:05:13.000 Did they?

01:05:14.000 What's it called?

01:05:15.000 Werewolf.

01:05:16.000 I saw that.

01:05:16.000 Yeah, Werewolf.

01:05:17.000 It's spelled weird, but it's basically a werewolf.

01:05:19.000 Oh, shit.

01:05:20.000 Where does it take place?

01:05:22.000 Some foreign country.

01:05:22.000 I don't know.

01:05:23.000 You can hear them speaking some strange language.

01:05:25.000 You know, it's like, give me some volume.

01:05:28.000 Oh, man.

01:05:29.000 Oh, I want to see that.

01:05:30.000 Yeah.

01:05:31.000 That looks pretty wild.

01:05:32.000 Robert Eggers is a shit.

01:05:35.000 Oh, Christmas?

01:05:36.000 How was the vampire?

01:05:37.000 I thought we were Christmas.

01:05:38.000 It should be a Halloween release.

01:05:40.000 How was the vampire one?

01:05:41.000 Fuck yeah, it was awesome.

01:05:42.000 You think I'd like it?

01:05:43.000 Yeah.

01:05:45.000 It just, I don't know.

01:05:47.000 It's good, dude.

01:05:48.000 It's so good.

01:05:48.000 It is?

01:05:49.000 I think it's the best vampire movie of all time.

01:05:51.000 That interview with a vampire?

01:05:53.000 Yeah.

01:05:53.000 Nosferatu?

01:05:54.000 Yeah, I think Nosferatu is the best vampire movie of all time.

01:05:57.000 It's my opinion.

01:05:58.000 I think it's the best.

01:06:00.000 It's like, I've seen a bunch of them.

01:06:01.000 Gary Oldman one was amazing.

01:06:03.000 That was a great movie.

01:06:04.000 That Dracula one with Kano Reese and went on a ride.

01:06:06.000 That was a great one.

01:06:07.000 That's still great.

01:06:08.000 But man, there's something about Eggers' Nosferatu.

01:06:11.000 It's like, it's more terrifying than all of them.

01:06:14.000 Like, it's just something, it's more hypnotic.

01:06:17.000 Like, he's got powers over people.

01:06:18.000 Like, it's weird the way he influences people.

01:06:21.000 It's like, it's creepy.

01:06:22.000 Yeah, like the way that looks shot.

01:06:24.000 Like, I see what you're saying.

01:06:26.000 Like, you see the Nosferatu?

01:06:27.000 No, I didn't see it.

01:06:28.000 Show me a scene where they're, when he's making him sign the contract, there's a scene where the dude has to go to his house and he doesn't know.

01:06:36.000 Spoiler alert, like what contract he's signing because he's signing it in a language that he doesn't know to sell a house to this prince that lives in Romania.

01:06:46.000 And he goes to visit this guy.

01:06:47.000 It's the creepiest fucking scene ever.

01:06:49.000 And this is the first scene where you, like, see him and you slowly get revealed, like, what he is.

01:06:54.000 Yeah.

01:06:55.000 The best vampire movie of all time.

01:06:57.000 All right.

01:06:57.000 Really?

01:06:58.000 You'll love it.

01:06:59.000 I'm going to love it.

01:07:00.000 It's so well done.

01:07:01.000 You're going to watch it from now on.

01:07:04.000 A solicitor.

01:07:07.000 Okay, listen to me.

01:07:08.000 My lord.

01:07:13.000 The language of my forefathers.

01:07:18.000 Of course.

01:07:23.000 The maiden's token, I see.

01:07:27.000 Your bride.

01:07:28.000 Just so, Hidde.

01:07:31.000 Yes.

01:07:33.000 May I?

01:07:38.000 He wants to look at the bride?

01:07:39.000 Well, he wants this guy's wife.

01:07:41.000 This is this whole contract.

01:07:43.000 This is what this whole thing is about of him going to this guy's town and buying a house there from him.

01:07:49.000 Like, this, it really just wants this guy's wife.

01:07:51.000 He's like eternally connected to her.

01:07:54.000 Oh.

01:07:55.000 It's creepy as fuck, dude.

01:07:57.000 Oh, shit!

01:07:58.000 Oh, I gotta watch this.

01:07:59.000 Oh!

01:08:00.000 Yeah, it's good.

01:08:01.000 I gotta watch this.

01:08:02.000 Best vampire movie.

01:08:03.000 Is it?

01:08:03.000 I gotta watch this.

01:08:04.000 Ever.

01:08:05.000 Yeah.

01:08:05.000 Some people disagree, and that's fine.

01:08:08.000 My opinion.

01:08:09.000 You ever see Lawson?

01:08:10.000 Boys, that was good.

01:08:12.000 That was fun.

01:08:13.000 I bet if you watched it today, you'd be like, What?

01:08:15.000 Yeah, you'd be like, Yo, this is corny as John Rollo with long hair.

01:08:19.000 I still believe that you, Rollo, with the fucking wig.

01:08:28.000 Broadway show for it now.

01:08:30.000 Lost Boys, the Broadway show.

01:08:31.000 Oh my god, dude, that's cool.

01:08:33.000 First of all, boo Broadway.

01:08:35.000 I saw Spider Man, I saw Spider Man, I saw Rocky.

01:08:40.000 Two things I love.

01:08:42.000 It's like going to see a Spider Man movie with the worst special effects ever.

01:08:46.000 All of a sudden, there's a guy swinging, and everybody's like, oh!

01:08:49.000 I go, dude, what the fuck?

01:08:51.000 Really?

01:08:52.000 Show me the one with Macy Barber in it.

01:08:54.000 I'm fucking, uh.

01:08:55.000 Not Macy Barber.

01:08:56.000 Marcy Barber?

01:08:58.000 Who's the black girl?

01:08:58.000 Macy Barber's a fighter.

01:08:59.000 Who's the black girl that used to sing?

01:09:01.000 Macy Gray.

01:09:02.000 Macy Gray.

01:09:03.000 100 milligrams.

01:09:05.000 Yeah, I saw a good scene in this night.

01:09:05.000 Yep.

01:09:05.000 She.

01:09:09.000 How was that?

01:09:09.000 There's a Rocky play?

01:09:11.000 It was fucking horrendous.

01:09:13.000 Do they box?

01:09:14.000 Do they pull a ring out and everything?

01:09:16.000 Yeah, it's fucking awful.

01:09:17.000 Wow.

01:09:18.000 It's like.

01:09:20.000 Does the guy try to imitate Stallone?

01:09:21.000 Not what he is, but just what you're picturing on Broadway.

01:09:26.000 I've never seen anything I liked on that motherfucker.

01:09:28.000 This is it?

01:09:28.000 This!

01:09:29.000 Oh, boo!

01:09:32.000 Oh, theater people, you're so silly.

01:09:35.000 Dude, I can't stand that.

01:09:37.000 And the guy sucks.

01:09:38.000 He can't box.

01:09:40.000 The beloved Oscar winning story.

01:09:42.000 Dude, I just.

01:09:44.000 I mean, I assume Stallone did this.

01:09:46.000 I don't know.

01:09:47.000 I mean, you just got to own it.

01:09:49.000 It's a cover story.

01:09:51.000 I'm not into plays.

01:09:53.000 I saw Dog Day Afternoon with John Burnthaw on Broadway.

01:09:57.000 Oh, really?

01:09:58.000 How was that?

01:09:58.000 Yeah.

01:09:59.000 He was really good in it.

01:09:59.000 It wasn't bad, though.

01:10:03.000 I like that shit, though.

01:10:05.000 Did you ever get into The Punisher?

01:10:08.000 Did you see The One Last Kill?

01:10:10.000 Yeah, I watched it.

01:10:11.000 That was good.

01:10:12.000 It's a one off.

01:10:13.000 You see it?

01:10:14.000 Yeah, it's like an hour long.

01:10:15.000 People think it's a movie.

01:10:16.000 It's not a movie.

01:10:17.000 It's like a special movie.

01:10:19.000 That was good.

01:10:19.000 Yeah, I liked it.

01:10:20.000 That was really good.

01:10:21.000 Season, him and the Daredevil was good.

01:10:24.000 Yeah, he was good.

01:10:25.000 He was real good.

01:10:26.000 First season was okay.

01:10:27.000 Second season wasn't good, but that special was good.

01:10:30.000 If you have to watch one thing, it's like 45 minutes to an hour.

01:10:34.000 I did a watch along on the Matt Serra channel.

01:10:36.000 But I did.

01:10:38.000 That guy's awesome with everything.

01:10:40.000 John Berthold?

01:10:41.000 Yeah.

01:10:42.000 Walking Dead, he was amazing.

01:10:43.000 He was.

01:10:44.000 He played such a good, creepy friend.

01:10:45.000 Yeah.

01:10:46.000 You liked it.

01:10:47.000 When he came back to life, you liked it.

01:10:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:10:49.000 Punisher.

01:10:50.000 That was crazy.

01:10:51.000 I met him a few times in real life.

01:10:53.000 He could scrap a little bit.

01:10:54.000 Yeah, he's a very nice guy.

01:10:55.000 He was on the podcast.

01:10:57.000 Enjoyed talking to him.

01:10:58.000 Very smart.

01:10:59.000 Interesting dude.

01:11:00.000 Went to school in Russia to learn acting.

01:11:04.000 I mean, that's a weird place to go.

01:11:05.000 I know.

01:11:06.000 To learn acting.

01:11:07.000 Yeah.

01:11:07.000 And just so you know, while we're on the topic, The Punish is going to be in Spider Man Brand New Day.

01:11:13.000 That's coming out.

01:11:14.000 Is that a movie?

01:11:15.000 Yeah, the new Spider Man movie.

01:11:18.000 They just keep swapping out Spider Man.

01:11:19.000 Yeah, but this Tom Holland Spider Man, he's yet to do a bad Spider Man movie.

01:11:24.000 He's good.

01:11:25.000 There's no job security in being Spider Man.

01:11:26.000 No, hell no.

01:11:27.000 They got another dude waiting in the wings.

01:11:30.000 Or there is job security.

01:11:31.000 They just brought Tobey Maguire back after 20 years.

01:11:34.000 That's not a bad gig.

01:11:36.000 The multiverse thing.

01:11:37.000 But the thing is about Spider Man is he's supposed to be like a college kid.

01:11:40.000 Yeah.

01:11:41.000 Unfortunately, this guy looks like a little kid.

01:11:43.000 Tom Holland?

01:11:44.000 Yeah.

01:11:45.000 It's the origin story as he starts out as a college kid.

01:11:47.000 Yeah, he's a high school kid.

01:11:49.000 Might be a high school kid.

01:11:50.000 Is he in high school?

01:11:51.000 Yeah.

01:11:52.000 And then his Uncle Ben gets killed and he doesn't stop the guy.

01:11:57.000 You know what else was fun?

01:11:58.000 Was the Spider Man in the Wall.

01:11:59.000 Yeah, I was pulling that up.

01:12:01.000 Oh, Jamie, me and you are right here, buddy.

01:12:03.000 Yeah, that's what Nicholas Cage did.

01:12:04.000 That was fun.

01:12:06.000 Yeah, I thought it was pretty good.

01:12:07.000 That looks dope.

01:12:08.000 I thought it was good.

01:12:09.000 And you can watch it in color or black and white.

01:12:11.000 They give you the option.

01:12:12.000 Yeah.

01:12:13.000 Nicolas Cage is a fascinating dude.

01:12:15.000 But he's been around forever.

01:12:16.000 He's the good Nicolas Cage in this.

01:12:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:12:19.000 Some stuff you're watching him in, you're like, oh.

01:12:21.000 Well, I think after that Pascal movie he did, his name was in the title.

01:12:26.000 It's like, I don't know, being Nicolas Cage.

01:12:28.000 Right, right, right.

01:12:28.000 That movie brought him back.

01:12:29.000 It was like Pulp Fiction for Travolta.

01:12:31.000 Right.

01:12:32.000 Kicked him back off again.

01:12:33.000 What is that movie?

01:12:35.000 It was great, where Pedro Pascal is like a drug dealer.

01:12:39.000 That's a lie.

01:12:40.000 Who's a big fan of Nicholas Cage's?

01:12:43.000 Oh.

01:12:43.000 And he winds up hiring him to come to his house to do something, and then he gets Cage's hemmed up in the cartel business.

01:12:49.000 The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent.

01:12:51.000 That's what it's called.

01:12:52.000 Is that it?

01:12:53.000 Is that the name of the movie?

01:12:54.000 Yeah.

01:12:54.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:12:55.000 See?

01:12:55.000 Being Nick fucking Cage.

01:12:58.000 Great B. That's not bad.

01:13:00.000 It was good.

01:13:01.000 It was good.

01:13:02.000 I'll probably check that out.

01:13:04.000 I watched part of it.

01:13:05.000 I never got through the whole thing.

01:13:06.000 No.

01:13:06.000 It was just busy.

01:13:08.000 But it looks hilarious.

01:13:09.000 Yeah, it's pretty good.

01:13:10.000 The premise is hilarious.

01:13:11.000 You know, you're like an actor and you get these gigs.

01:13:13.000 Like, because people do things like that.

01:13:15.000 They'll like show up at people's houses and parties.

01:13:17.000 Like, someone wants to pay you a million dollars to go to Dubai.

01:13:20.000 And you're like, okay.

01:13:21.000 So they fly to Dubai.

01:13:23.000 Then they have dinner with people and hang out with them and meet them.

01:13:25.000 And people just cut them a check.

01:13:26.000 Damn.

01:13:26.000 Yeah.

01:13:27.000 Where can I get that?

01:13:28.000 I know.

01:13:28.000 It's weird.

01:13:29.000 It's weird.

01:13:30.000 It's, uh, there's, there's, you know, so like Nicolas Cage, like that probably would happen where the cartel guy was like, that guy is my favorite.

01:13:38.000 Like, remember when Sean Penn met El Chapo?

01:13:41.000 What?

01:13:41.000 Right.

01:13:42.000 He was hanging with El Chapo and did an article for Rolling Stone Magazine where he talked about meeting El Chapo in Mexico.

01:13:49.000 No shit.

01:13:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:51.000 Just Brandon, no.

01:13:52.000 Do you remember when Connor was wearing the El Chapo shirt?

01:13:55.000 Did he try to do the pictures just like El Chapo did?

01:13:55.000 I do remember.

01:13:58.000 Those were the pictures that he did with Sean Penn.

01:13:58.000 Yes.

01:14:00.000 Yes, that's the shirt.

01:14:00.000 No shit.

01:14:02.000 That's what Connor's doing.

01:14:03.000 That's what he's doing.

01:14:04.000 He's mocking.

01:14:06.000 He's hilarious.

01:14:07.000 Speaking of Connor, how well does he do next week?

01:14:11.000 Boy.

01:14:12.000 We're going to find out.

01:14:14.000 We're really going to find out what's going on if it gets into the second and third rounds.

01:14:18.000 That's when we're really going to find out.

01:14:20.000 We'll know.

01:14:20.000 We'll know immediately.

01:14:21.000 At that point.

01:14:22.000 But I mean, whether or not he can really fight for five rounds against a guy with a great gas tank.

01:14:29.000 Maxis.

01:14:30.000 After five years of tearing your body up?

01:14:34.000 You don't know, right?

01:14:35.000 Because it's all in a vacuum.

01:14:37.000 Like, there's some training footage of him beating guys up that you've seen.

01:14:41.000 But who knows what.

01:14:42.000 He actually has been doing.

01:14:44.000 We know he's been partying, but has he also been like really training?

01:14:47.000 Because if he's been really training and it shocks everybody because he's still got his skills.

01:14:51.000 Yeah.

01:14:52.000 I mean, my God, if he somehow or another sparks out Max in like the first round, do you know how big he becomes?

01:14:59.000 Oh, he's right back.

01:15:01.000 Right back.

01:15:02.000 I mean, he's right back.

01:15:03.000 Him and Justin Gauche, the biggest fight in the history of the known universe.

01:15:06.000 That would be sick.

01:15:07.000 They go for the BMF title at 170.

01:15:09.000 Because Connor's like, I don't want to cut any weight.

01:15:11.000 That fight would be crazy.

01:15:13.000 My only concern is his size.

01:15:16.000 Like, Max struggled with bigger dudes, like Dustin the first time.

01:15:20.000 Then Max came back bigger, which we know because when he went back down, he struggled, you know, with Erlofsky.

01:15:27.000 You know, I mean, he went five rounds with Justin.

01:15:29.000 So, like, I'm just waiting to see is Connor able to put that fucking weight on him and have a problem?

01:15:38.000 Is he a bigger dude, though?

01:15:39.000 They both fought at the same weight class.

01:15:41.000 Yeah, they did start at 45.

01:15:42.000 Yeah, he got points.

01:15:43.000 When Max was fighting at 145 when he was a champion, he was walking around like 176.

01:15:48.000 He's a bigger guy.

01:15:49.000 He's a bigger guy.

01:15:49.000 He's big.

01:15:50.000 I mean, I love Max, so it's hard for me to believe Connor's cool.

01:15:55.000 I follow Max on YouTube.

01:15:57.000 He's got a great channel.

01:15:58.000 It's recording all of his training and all the stuff he's doing.

01:16:00.000 And you see him.

01:16:01.000 He looks good, dude.

01:16:02.000 He looks big.

01:16:03.000 Dustin Poirier thinks Max might be bigger.

01:16:07.000 Wow.

01:16:07.000 Really?

01:16:07.000 Yeah.

01:16:08.000 I mean, he's taller.

01:16:09.000 He says he's kind of thin, but he's got a Bigger frame.

01:16:12.000 He thinks he's going to be tall.

01:16:14.000 He came to my gym a couple times and he's like my height.

01:16:17.000 I think he made a big mistake going back to 45 after he did 55.

01:16:21.000 I think it's too hard.

01:16:23.000 I think it's just too hard on the body.

01:16:25.000 And especially when he got, he was a thick 55 when he fought Justin.

01:16:29.000 He looked good.

01:16:30.000 He looked solid at that weight.

01:16:31.000 I think him fighting at that weight, he could actually fight.

01:16:36.000 I think going down to 45, I think he was fighting.

01:16:38.000 It looked to me like he was compromised.

01:16:42.000 Like, I think the weight cut was just too much.

01:16:43.000 Yeah, it was too much.

01:16:44.000 It was too much.

01:16:45.000 Do you think the Justin fight and Max is different if he doesn't get caught with that kick early in the face?

01:16:50.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:16:51.000 100%.

01:16:51.000 Like, I would like to see that fight without Justin's compromise.

01:16:55.000 Right.

01:16:55.000 But, I mean, that's the beautiful thing about moves like that.

01:16:58.000 It changed the fight game.

01:16:59.000 It changed the game.

01:16:59.000 That was the intention.

01:17:00.000 It could have been a K.

01:17:00.000 Right.

01:17:01.000 Yeah.

01:17:02.000 Right.

01:17:02.000 It shattered the bones of his nose.

01:17:04.000 Right.

01:17:04.000 Yeah.

01:17:05.000 So, that for sure.

01:17:06.000 I mean, but then, you know, you think you'd see the way Max looked at 145 when he fought Ilya.

01:17:11.000 Right.

01:17:12.000 But then you got to also factor in, also, he's fighting Ilya.

01:17:14.000 Yeah.

01:17:15.000 And Ilya is so fucking good.

01:17:16.000 Like, you look bad.

01:17:18.000 Like, there's a lot of guys who don't look bad.

01:17:19.000 He lands combinations on people, and a lot of guys look bad.

01:17:22.000 Doesn't mean they're bad.

01:17:23.000 I'd like to see Max and Justin again if Max pulls it off.

01:17:27.000 But then again, like, what are you going to do for Ilya?

01:17:29.000 Like, if Ilya wants a rematch, like, could you justify that?

01:17:34.000 I don't believe so.

01:17:35.000 I think you give him Patty if Patty wins.

01:17:37.000 That's what I think.

01:17:38.000 That's what his next fight should be.

01:17:40.000 I think Patty beats.

01:17:41.000 I think Patty wins.

01:17:43.000 Who's he still saying?

01:17:44.000 You think Patty beats Ilya?

01:17:45.000 No, I think he beats St. Denis to get to Ilya.

01:17:48.000 I think he gets hit way too much to beat Ilya.

01:17:52.000 Well, Ilya's sharp.

01:17:54.000 He's so sharp with his striking.

01:17:55.000 I rewatched that fight before.

01:17:56.000 Yeah, I like Patty in this one.

01:17:58.000 St. Denis is not an easy one.

01:17:59.000 I don't think he's easy.

01:18:00.000 St. Denis is a beast.

01:18:01.000 I just think his Patty striking is a little better and his jujitsu is better.

01:18:05.000 I think the only place St. Denis has the advantages in the wrestling is just my opinion.

01:18:11.000 I don't know, man.

01:18:12.000 St. Denis switched camps and then made that big adjustment after.

01:18:17.000 He lost to who'd lost to Moicano.

01:18:19.000 Yeah, after Moicano fight, he's looked a lot better.

01:18:21.000 I mean, if Patty puts him on his back at all, like, I don't, does Saint Denis train off his back?

01:18:26.000 Because it didn't look like it in that Moicano match.

01:18:29.000 Patty and Ilya would be huge.

01:18:31.000 Hell yeah.

01:18:32.000 Because they have his back.

01:18:32.000 Because they have his, that's right.

01:18:34.000 They got beef.

01:18:34.000 That's the fight.

01:18:35.000 Yeah.

01:18:35.000 That would be a massive fight.

01:18:36.000 That's the fight you make.

01:18:36.000 Do that shit in London?

01:18:37.000 I think that's the right comeback fight for Ilya.

01:18:41.000 And also, do that shit in England.

01:18:43.000 Joe's like, I'm going.

01:18:44.000 Oh my god.

01:18:44.000 No, I don't want to get caught in a riot.

01:18:47.000 Yeah, not for anything.

01:18:48.000 Be careful.

01:18:49.000 Lock.

01:18:49.000 You up for your social media when you get over there?

01:18:51.000 They would too.

01:18:52.000 They were shitting on Patty when he lost to Justin.

01:18:56.000 And, you know, he got compromised also that first round.

01:18:59.000 I believe he got poked in the eye or whatever else.

01:19:01.000 Whatever the case, he went five with him.

01:19:03.000 He went five with him.

01:19:03.000 Yeah, he did go five.

01:19:04.000 And, you know, and got battered and stood up to great shots.

01:19:09.000 And he's going to come out of that fight better.

01:19:11.000 He'll know, okay, there's more work to be done.

01:19:14.000 There's holes I have in my game.

01:19:16.000 There's places where I got caught.

01:19:17.000 And he has improved over his.

01:19:19.000 Like, when he first got there, I didn't really think much of him.

01:19:21.000 But each time out, I think he gets a little better.

01:19:24.000 Yeah, dude, for sure.

01:19:25.000 It's just Justin's in.

01:19:26.000 Yeah, Justin's a savage.

01:19:28.000 He's my favorite fighter rat, you know, been for a minute.

01:19:31.000 Yeah, no doubt.

01:19:32.000 Because he's just always in a great fight.

01:19:33.000 That fight's insane.

01:19:34.000 And especially after you see that second round, when I rewatched it again.

01:19:39.000 When Ilya was putting it on him in that second round, you're like, oh, those liver punches.

01:19:43.000 I know.

01:19:43.000 Like, how does he come back from this?

01:19:45.000 If he.

01:19:46.000 More than one, too.

01:19:47.000 So beautiful, though, too.

01:19:49.000 Like, the way he delivers those shots.

01:19:51.000 I know.

01:19:51.000 Just clean.

01:19:52.000 Whatever.

01:19:53.000 You know who else does it like that?

01:19:54.000 Aaron Pico.

01:19:55.000 Yeah, he does great.

01:19:56.000 Great body work.

01:19:57.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:19:58.000 He's got the show.

01:20:00.000 His feet, too.

01:20:01.000 He looked great his last time.

01:20:02.000 He looked great.

01:20:03.000 Yeah, Pico is.

01:20:04.000 Because that was one of those guys.

01:20:05.000 I was fighting Pitbull.

01:20:06.000 He was like, you know, a real legend.

01:20:08.000 But the way he mixed it.

01:20:10.000 Together, the striking and the wrestling was really good.

01:20:13.000 He just got crazy in his debut and he just got a little too hyped up, a little too aggressive against a guy who's way too skilled.

01:20:21.000 Yeah.

01:20:21.000 You know?

01:20:22.000 He's a hunter.

01:20:23.000 Yeah.

01:20:24.000 I love that he's so aggressive, but that was a great comeback fight.

01:20:24.000 You know, he's a guy.

01:20:29.000 Yeah, it was.

01:20:30.000 Because it shows that he's still in there.

01:20:32.000 You know?

01:20:32.000 You get worried when you see people get their lights put out like that.

01:20:36.000 You're like, are they going to ever be the same?

01:20:38.000 And then when you see him come back into a fight like that, being so intelligent.

01:20:41.000 That's a good sign.

01:20:41.000 Yeah.

01:20:42.000 But he has to make sure his defense is always good because his chin is still suspect.

01:20:47.000 Regardless of how good his skill is, he's still going to have a chin.

01:20:51.000 Well, he's been knocked out a bunch of times.

01:20:52.000 Yeah, a few times.

01:20:53.000 You know, I mean, after a certain amount of times, it's easier to get knocked out.

01:20:56.000 And you've got to know he's been knocked out in training.

01:20:58.000 I always believe part of your chin is believing you can't be knocked out.

01:21:02.000 And then when it happens to you that first time, instead of when you get your bell rung, you bite down on your mouthpiece, now you're like, oh shit, not again.

01:21:09.000 Like, I think mentally it's different, you know?

01:21:13.000 Yeah.

01:21:13.000 There's something to that, probably, but then there's also like a.

01:21:16.000 Well, if you get hit on the button, you get hit on the fucking button.

01:21:19.000 Yeah, there's like certain shit that violates your beliefs.

01:21:21.000 Yeah, it doesn't matter.

01:21:24.000 Nobody twice see red, bro.

01:21:25.000 So fact.

01:21:26.000 A clang.

01:21:28.000 Edson Barboza wheel kicks you.

01:21:31.000 I remember that one.

01:21:31.000 That was in Brazil when Edson Barboza.

01:21:33.000 Terry Adam?

01:21:34.000 Yeah, he had a good one, too.

01:21:36.000 That's one of those where you go, I don't think that guy's ever going to be the same.

01:21:39.000 I don't think he was the same after that.

01:21:41.000 No.

01:21:42.000 I thought it right then and there.

01:21:43.000 I was like, I think that was too hard.

01:21:44.000 It's a rat.

01:21:45.000 Yeah, that was too hard.

01:21:46.000 That's a different shot.

01:21:47.000 And you've seen it where guys, they get one and then they're still in there, and then you see them get a couple, and then next to you, you know, their chin is gone.

01:21:55.000 It's just, it's not.

01:21:56.000 Listen, Chuck Liddell's mentally strong.

01:21:59.000 You know what I mean?

01:21:59.000 I don't think he's being like, I wonder if this is going to, you know, that's just his body saying, his body's trying to protect him.

01:22:05.000 Yeah.

01:22:06.000 His body's saying enough of this.

01:22:07.000 And it's also the, apparently, it's the lining inside your brain.

01:22:11.000 All that fascia tears over time, and repeated head traumas, and just there's a lot of swashing around.

01:22:18.000 So, when you get dinged, your brain is literally going without shock absorbers, bouncing off the inside of your skull.

01:22:25.000 That might not be the technical way that a neurosurgeon might describe it.

01:22:29.000 Hey, man, listen, all those high jokes, I was like a little armadillo.

01:22:38.000 I was covering that little motherfucker.

01:22:40.000 Unless I'm running into a back fist, I was okay.

01:22:43.000 That's right.

01:22:45.000 But it's so funny how everything just evolves.

01:22:47.000 When I got stopped with the first, I was the first.

01:22:49.000 Guy ever to get stopped with a back fist, and when I did, the people were like, Yo, this guy must suck.

01:22:55.000 Nobody gets stopped with that shit.

01:22:57.000 Now you see it on every car, people getting stopped with back fists.

01:22:59.000 Dude, we used to have these conversations, like Eddie Bravo and I, at the beginning of the UFC about stuff that works that's not in there yet.

01:23:06.000 Like, what about this?

01:23:07.000 And you know the big one that I missed on?

01:23:07.000 What about that?

01:23:09.000 Front kick to the face.

01:23:09.000 What's that?

01:23:11.000 Before Anderson Silva front kick V toward the face, I'm like, that shit doesn't work.

01:23:16.000 Nobody does that.

01:23:16.000 Yeah, no harder.

01:23:17.000 It's too hard to land.

01:23:19.000 I don't even know why I thought that.

01:23:21.000 You say you really thought that?

01:23:22.000 For a little bit, because I was like, it's not worth it.

01:23:25.000 I was like, that move is so powerful to the body.

01:23:27.000 I was like, that's really where you should use it, because it's a big target, and you could really fuck a guy up.

01:23:32.000 You get your most power with a front kick going straight.

01:23:34.000 And I was like, to the face, it's like too hard to hit.

01:23:37.000 I don't know why I thought that was.

01:23:38.000 Machita.

01:23:39.000 Machita and Randy.

01:23:41.000 Yeah.

01:23:41.000 Yeah, Machita and Randy.

01:23:42.000 I think it was like Vitor first.

01:23:45.000 Yeah.

01:23:46.000 Or Anderson, Vitor first.

01:23:48.000 I think that was the first one when we saw a real spectacular front kick knockout to the face.

01:23:52.000 But then it was Machita and Randy.

01:23:54.000 And then a bunch of people started doing it.

01:23:55.000 And then front kicks to the face became like a spam hit.

01:23:58.000 Thanks, Sensei Seagal, for that.

01:24:00.000 How about Michael Chandler, Tony Fox?

01:24:01.000 Tony Fox.

01:24:02.000 That was a bad one.

01:24:03.000 That might be one of the worst ones.

01:24:04.000 That might be the worst ones, yeah.

01:24:06.000 Or Cheeto Rivera, Frankie Edgar.

01:24:06.000 Yeah.

01:24:09.000 Oh, yeah.

01:24:09.000 That was a bad one.

01:24:11.000 It was up ahead for Frankie.

01:24:12.000 Front kicks to the face are brutal.

01:24:13.000 I just didn't see that coming.

01:24:14.000 I really, because in martial arts tournaments, most people were throwing them to the body and not throwing them to the face.

01:24:20.000 Even in kickboxing, not a whole lot of guys are throwing them to the face.

01:24:23.000 You know, with Michael Chandler, I remember talking to him.

01:24:25.000 He said he didn't even practice that.

01:24:27.000 He just says he just saw the opening and just threw the kick.

01:24:30.000 That's so crazy.

01:24:31.000 That's wild.

01:24:32.000 That's so crazy.

01:24:32.000 Yeah.

01:24:33.000 I mean, I think, too, once a successful technique gets out there and people see it, 100%.

01:24:39.000 Then all of a sudden, hey, I can fucking do that.

01:24:41.000 Yeah.

01:24:42.000 100%.

01:24:43.000 He had a rough outing the last one, Mike.

01:24:46.000 Yeah, that was a tough one.

01:24:47.000 I mean, that was a bad matchup.

01:24:48.000 That's like, that's Dana saying, Mike, it's time for you to retire.

01:24:51.000 Mike is 40.

01:24:52.000 Hoofy is in his prime, and he might be the scariest striker at 170.

01:24:58.000 He's an assassin.

01:24:59.000 Or 155, rather.

01:25:00.000 By the way, giant for 55.

01:25:02.000 I know.

01:25:02.000 Tall.

01:25:03.000 Gigantic.

01:25:03.000 Like, rangy.

01:25:04.000 Yeah.

01:25:05.000 Good movements.

01:25:06.000 He's fucking good.

01:25:07.000 Bro, he hit him with like three wheel kicks.

01:25:09.000 Yeah, he was just.

01:25:09.000 Yeah.

01:25:10.000 I mean, it was target practice.

01:25:12.000 It's crazy how good he is.

01:25:13.000 And you talk about that taekwondo movement.

01:25:16.000 Exactly.

01:25:16.000 He has that.

01:25:17.000 But with boxing hands.

01:25:18.000 So it's crazy.

01:25:19.000 Yeah.

01:25:20.000 You know, I mean, got to tighten up the wrestling and the jujitsu, and that's why he lost to Benoit Saint Denis.

01:25:24.000 Yep.

01:25:25.000 But that was a good learning experience.

01:25:27.000 When you see a guy who's that good, fucking everybody up, you know, the way he put out King, whew.

01:25:33.000 Jeez.

01:25:34.000 That was real bad.

01:25:34.000 Bro.

01:25:35.000 He does it like a video game.

01:25:37.000 And Fazib.

01:25:38.000 And I thought that was going to be a decent one.

01:25:42.000 And by the way, the Fazib knockout, apparently.

01:25:44.000 He was like sick as a dog before the fight.

01:25:47.000 They were talking about pulling out of the fight.

01:25:50.000 No shit.

01:25:50.000 And he just took the fight anyway and had one of the best performances of his career.

01:25:54.000 But that guy's elite.

01:25:56.000 And training with Volkanovsky?

01:25:58.000 Only going to make him better.

01:25:58.000 I know.

01:25:59.000 Perfect for sure.

01:26:00.000 What better guy?

01:26:01.000 Like wrestling, strong, like animal featherweight that was like the king for so many years, won the crown again.

01:26:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:26:09.000 Stick around with that guy.

01:26:10.000 He'll show you how to get up, he'll show you how to not get taken down.

01:26:13.000 And Volkanovsky, you know, he don't have much left in him.

01:26:15.000 Right, so he's going to want to coach people.

01:26:16.000 Yeah, he's going to want to like pass it on.

01:26:18.000 And you got the perfect guy to pass it on.

01:26:20.000 He's got a great fight IQ.

01:26:22.000 Very well rounded, too.

01:26:23.000 Bokunowski?

01:26:24.000 Yeah.

01:26:24.000 I think he's one of my favorite in terms of the fight.

01:26:26.000 Yeah, he really grew on me.

01:26:28.000 I didn't like him because of Max.

01:26:30.000 You know, I was always rooting for Max, but, you know, he's earned my respect.

01:26:34.000 That guy's just, he's good.

01:26:35.000 He's good everywhere, too.

01:26:36.000 He really is.

01:26:37.000 The dude I got my eyes on the most is Carlos Protez.

01:26:41.000 I got my eyes on him the most.

01:26:44.000 That Jack De La Modelina KO was crazy.

01:26:48.000 Jack is so fucking good, and he's so tough.

01:26:51.000 He's so tough.

01:26:52.000 And you watch Carlos just tee off on him like that.

01:26:54.000 He really looked like target practice for him against such a high level player.

01:26:58.000 He was having fun.

01:27:00.000 I know.

01:27:00.000 Ain't that the worst part?

01:27:01.000 Dude, Morales is a savage too, still.

01:27:04.000 I know, but that fight, save that fight.

01:27:07.000 Morales versus Protez, save that fight.

01:27:10.000 Wait till it's ready.

01:27:11.000 Not yet.

01:27:12.000 It's like, don't pull the brisket out of the smoker just yet.

01:27:15.000 I was telling Matt, I saw some grappling footage of Morales, and he looked pretty fucking good.

01:27:21.000 Well, he has a wrestling background, and if there's a way he's going to get Protez, it's going to probably be a combination of those things.

01:27:28.000 Because Protez just wants a stand.

01:27:29.000 Yeah, of course.

01:27:30.000 And he's built like.

01:27:33.000 If you had an engineer, like a long range striker, his torso is as big as all legs and arms.

01:27:40.000 Bro, and he's so accurate.

01:27:41.000 He had his best round the fifth round versus Ian Machado Gary.

01:27:47.000 Yeah.

01:27:47.000 He came back like a bat out of hell.

01:27:49.000 And really had him hurt bad.

01:27:50.000 He might get outpointed, but he's calm in bad positions, and he's always fucking dangerous.

01:27:56.000 That was the last.

01:27:57.000 Are you thinking maybe he's a chain smoker or something that he's.

01:28:00.000 or he smokes cigarettes?

01:28:01.000 The fifth round, man, he had Ian in trouble.

01:28:01.000 Yeah.

01:28:04.000 He's good, dude.

01:28:05.000 And he's.

01:28:06.000 He hits so fucking hard.

01:28:08.000 When he KO'd Leon, I was like, wow.

01:28:10.000 I don't know.

01:28:11.000 Leon's good.

01:28:13.000 He's a good striker.

01:28:14.000 To KO Leon like that clean was crazy.

01:28:17.000 They got a crazy rumor.

01:28:19.000 Was it a fight nerds they called themselves?

01:28:22.000 Fight nerds.

01:28:22.000 And Hoofty was there.

01:28:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:24.000 He trains with them and he trains with other people as well.

01:28:27.000 Like, Protez moves around.

01:28:29.000 But he, you know, he had a giant Muay Thai record, rather.

01:28:34.000 Yeah.

01:28:34.000 Oh, no shit.

01:28:35.000 Like, how many Muay Thai fights did Carlos Protez have?

01:28:38.000 Like, world class.

01:28:39.000 Like, I've watched a bunch of his just pure Muay Thai fights, and the comfort level that he has in there, exchanging and moving and knowing where he's supposed to be and not to be, that sensitivity that he has to striking exchanges because of world class Muay Thai is such an advantage.

01:28:56.000 Yeah, I would favor him if he fought Ian Gary again.

01:28:59.000 Perhaps.

01:29:00.000 Yeah, I would.

01:29:02.000 He knows he has to try to get it on him.

01:29:03.000 Yeah.

01:29:04.000 He can't point fight him.

01:29:05.000 Do you think that Islam's going to just have his way, or do you think Ian Gary has a shot there?

01:29:11.000 I mean, Ian.

01:29:11.000 He definitely has a shot.

01:29:12.000 So he had 29.

01:29:14.000 Muay Thai wins, five losses.

01:29:17.000 So 34 Muay Thai fights.

01:29:20.000 And like high level, man.

01:29:22.000 You watch him fight and you're like, okay, this guy, he can fucking, he knows where to be, where not to be, and he knows how to like piece people up, man.

01:29:32.000 It's like when you have that high level, we've seen it so many times with these guys that like world champions, like Alex.

01:29:38.000 See these world champion kickboxers, they enter into MMA and like nobody has a chance standing with them.

01:29:42.000 It's like it's too scary.

01:29:44.000 Yeah.

01:29:45.000 And that's what you're seeing with Carlos.

01:29:46.000 It's like, fuck, man.

01:29:48.000 What he did to JDM, I was like, holy shit.

01:29:51.000 I mean, he was having fun.

01:29:52.000 He was just playing.

01:29:54.000 Beating the shit out of the former world champion, having a good time.

01:29:54.000 I was like, what?

01:29:58.000 Stop him.

01:29:58.000 Just smashing him.

01:29:59.000 Had him screaming from calf kicks.

01:30:01.000 Yeah.

01:30:02.000 Yeah.

01:30:03.000 Whereas he went to his corner and they're like, no, ah, don't fucking scream.

01:30:07.000 They're telling him to not scream.

01:30:10.000 Oh, you didn't just get kicked in the same spot six times.

01:30:13.000 Fuck you.

01:30:15.000 You know how tough that dude is?

01:30:17.000 His nose is on the left side of his face.

01:30:19.000 And you're saying that guy?

01:30:21.000 Toughen up.

01:30:22.000 Right.

01:30:23.000 That's a fact.

01:30:24.000 That was one of those.

01:30:25.000 I was, had him when he was getting him up against the cage, I was fucking flinching.

01:30:29.000 I'm like, hear it?

01:30:30.000 Because you just, you know, it's coming, but you just don't know where it's coming from.

01:30:30.000 It's coming.

01:30:34.000 And those knees, the body is so nasty.

01:30:37.000 Protez is so nasty.

01:30:39.000 He's so good, man.

01:30:41.000 And he's getting better, too.

01:30:42.000 And now he's starting to do this shit.

01:30:44.000 Yeah.

01:30:45.000 He's like, he's feeling it.

01:30:46.000 He feels like he's the best guy.

01:30:47.000 Yeah.

01:30:48.000 I feel like he's the scariest guy in that division.

01:30:50.000 I think so.

01:30:51.000 But it doesn't mean he's going to be the best.

01:30:51.000 He's the scariest.

01:30:53.000 Right.

01:30:54.000 The bottom line about Islam is no one's able to get away from him.

01:30:57.000 He gets a hold of you.

01:30:58.000 He's very good standing up now.

01:31:00.000 And he gets a hold of you.

01:31:02.000 You're at Foxville.

01:31:03.000 He has a different kind of wrestling, different kind of grappling.

01:31:06.000 Well, if Ian can't keep him off of him, I don't see how he beats him on the ground.

01:31:10.000 His submissions are fucking insane, too.

01:31:12.000 He's just got a vice grip, man.

01:31:14.000 I know.

01:31:15.000 Everybody that he rolls with or everybody that he fights, rather, they all say, I've never been grabbed like that.

01:31:20.000 Never felt anybody that strong.

01:31:22.000 Who's that, Islam?

01:31:23.000 Islam, yeah.

01:31:24.000 I don't know if it's the same at 70, but he's so big.

01:31:27.000 I can't imagine it's not.

01:31:28.000 It's not like he's a little 70.

01:31:30.000 Yeah, it's not like because he's tall and tall.

01:31:33.000 Yeah, he's got a good frame on him.

01:31:34.000 I think he's going to be better at 70 because he's not going to be depleted.

01:31:37.000 Because when I would stand next to him in the octagon when he was the 55 pound champion, I'd be like, how?

01:31:42.000 How do you weigh 55?

01:31:44.000 That doesn't even make any sense.

01:31:45.000 You're 190 pounds right now.

01:31:46.000 Guaranteed.

01:31:47.000 If I put you on a scale, you weigh 190.

01:31:49.000 I think it's so big.

01:31:51.000 I think Ian's going to make it competitive early, you know, because he's got good footwork.

01:31:55.000 He moves side to side really good.

01:31:57.000 He's long.

01:31:58.000 But if he gets taken down twice.

01:32:01.000 And then it becomes a habit of him getting taken down, he won't get back up.

01:32:04.000 He won't.

01:32:04.000 If, but the thing is, if Ian Gary can get off sharp combinations early, he could stun him.

01:32:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:32:11.000 Because Ian can move.

01:32:12.000 He's fast as fuck.

01:32:13.000 He's fast on his feet.

01:32:14.000 Fast as fuck, and he's super accurate.

01:32:17.000 And the way he throws his strikes is like real clean.

01:32:20.000 No fat in his move.

01:32:20.000 Yeah.

01:32:21.000 Papa!

01:32:22.000 Everything's like, taka!

01:32:23.000 He's very responsible.

01:32:24.000 Yeah, he's not like a physically overpowering guy.

01:32:27.000 It's technique.

01:32:28.000 His technique is sharp.

01:32:29.000 Yeah.

01:32:30.000 Did you see his interaction that time with Kamzat?

01:32:33.000 Yeah.

01:32:33.000 What are your thoughts on that?

01:32:35.000 There was a little too much of a pat on the back.

01:32:37.000 That's what the fuck I'm talking about.

01:32:39.000 Coms out wasn't wrong.

01:32:40.000 And I like Ian.

01:32:41.000 I don't live against him.

01:32:42.000 But.

01:32:43.000 There's like a pat on the back where they're kind of halfway hitting you.

01:32:45.000 Yeah.

01:32:46.000 He went up to him, like, oh, what are you doing?

01:32:48.000 You think he was trying to check him?

01:32:49.000 What do you, you know, you got, oh, you got something coming up.

01:32:51.000 Oh, you feel strong.

01:32:52.000 And.

01:32:53.000 There's a weird thing where you hit me a little too hard on the back.

01:32:56.000 Yeah.

01:32:56.000 You know, there's a hug and then there's a slap slap.

01:32:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:32:59.000 Where, like, there's a slap slap that's, like, a little aggressive.

01:33:03.000 You're trying to show some male dominance here?

01:33:05.000 Yeah, but you don't like that.

01:33:07.000 You don't like that?

01:33:07.000 Are you hitting me?

01:33:07.000 Me?

01:33:08.000 It feels like you're hitting me a little bit.

01:33:10.000 Yeah.

01:33:11.000 Like if you hit a woman in the face like that, you'd go to jail.

01:33:15.000 Right?

01:33:16.000 You're hitting me in the back, but if you're like, hey, where's my fucking spaghetti?

01:33:20.000 And you double slap her in the back?

01:33:22.000 I don't even like, from so many right hands, if you see this little thing right here that's bumping out?

01:33:29.000 Yeah, it's broken.

01:33:29.000 I don't like, yeah, I fucked it up on Shoney's head, but I don't like when guys try to, when you first meet somebody, and they try to squeeze.

01:33:37.000 Because I want to smack them right there.

01:33:40.000 Because I feel pain with that shit.

01:33:44.000 What are we looking at?

01:33:44.000 No, he's talking about the Hamza.

01:33:46.000 That's Shavkot.

01:33:46.000 No, no, no.

01:33:47.000 That's Shavkot.

01:33:48.000 How dare you?

01:33:48.000 I fell down the wrong way.

01:33:49.000 Are you racist?

01:33:50.000 Yeah, are you racist?

01:33:51.000 You're putting it in and then, yeah.

01:33:52.000 I think they all look at the same.

01:33:54.000 It's the Cossacks.

01:33:55.000 I'm like, what are we looking at?

01:33:56.000 No, it was, Jamie.

01:33:56.000 I hit it.

01:33:57.000 Wasn't that a fight?

01:33:58.000 It was like, because they were all on stage.

01:34:01.000 Yeah, but I honestly felt bad for Hamza trying to make 185.

01:34:08.000 From all that I heard before the Strickland fight, like, he almost died.

01:34:12.000 To make 185?

01:34:13.000 Yeah, when he made 185, when he fought Strickland.

01:34:15.000 Really?

01:34:16.000 Yeah.

01:34:17.000 He was apparently thinking that he was going to go up to light heavyweight.

01:34:20.000 Oh.

01:34:20.000 And they were even talking about him fighting Yuri.

01:34:23.000 And so he was preparing like he was going up to light heavyweight.

01:34:23.000 Okay.

01:34:25.000 And if you watch, he's another guy who's got a great YouTube channel.

01:34:29.000 He details all his training.

01:34:30.000 He was hanging out with that Calavita guy, doing a lot of the cardio on strength.

01:34:34.000 Here it is.

01:34:35.000 Like he gave him a thing before that, though.

01:34:39.000 Yeah, before that.

01:34:40.000 I think it was like, good job tonight, good job.

01:34:42.000 And I think he slapped him on the back before that.

01:34:45.000 Or maybe it was after.

01:34:46.000 I don't know what it was.

01:34:47.000 But it was enough.

01:34:48.000 So, like, he's fine now.

01:34:50.000 Like, they seem cool.

01:34:52.000 Oh, no, no.

01:34:52.000 I was talking a little shit.

01:34:53.000 Right here, he gets pissed and pushes him.

01:34:56.000 He's a champion.

01:34:57.000 Don't worry.

01:34:58.000 So, yeah.

01:34:59.000 Yeah.

01:35:00.000 Well, you know, Hamza doesn't like.

01:35:01.000 Well, I mean, he did give him that little squeeze on the shoulder.

01:35:05.000 Bro.

01:35:05.000 Yeah, that was not.

01:35:06.000 That's his name.

01:35:06.000 Chechnya is not America.

01:35:09.000 Right.

01:35:10.000 Okay.

01:35:10.000 Dudes that come from Chechnya, that is a war torn country, and those motherfuckers don't play.

01:35:16.000 And the guy who runs it, the guy who runs it, is Hamza's homie.

01:35:20.000 Yep.

01:35:21.000 Which is like, okay.

01:35:22.000 So much so, he lets them tap him out.

01:35:24.000 Yeah.

01:35:25.000 It's ridiculous.

01:35:27.000 But that's how it goes.

01:35:29.000 You know, you got to do what you got to do.

01:35:30.000 But I like the fight.

01:35:32.000 I think Ian has a real chance.

01:35:34.000 I do too.

01:35:35.000 I think early he does.

01:35:36.000 But if he gets taken down repeatedly, I see.

01:35:39.000 If he gets taken down, he might just get smushed.

01:35:40.000 He might just get choked and smushed and choked.

01:35:43.000 I don't know.

01:35:43.000 He struggled with shove caught on the ground.

01:35:45.000 He did.

01:35:46.000 But again, that's a couple of years ago.

01:35:48.000 It's not like he's not getting better.

01:35:49.000 I mean, that dude.

01:35:49.000 Yeah, he's smart.

01:35:51.000 Like he knows how to get himself prepared.

01:35:54.000 I just think he's got to.

01:35:56.000 His edge is on the feet, obviously.

01:35:58.000 So I think that's where he.

01:36:00.000 If he's going to win, that's where he will.

01:36:02.000 I don't know why people don't like him.

01:36:03.000 I love him.

01:36:05.000 He also almost finished Shavkot with a rear naked choke, if I remember correctly.

01:36:08.000 Does that really?

01:36:09.000 Yeah, he did.

01:36:09.000 He did have Shavkot on his back.

01:36:10.000 Yeah, he had his back.

01:36:11.000 Ooh, I forgot about that.

01:36:13.000 I forgot about that.

01:36:14.000 I mean, that was the closest anybody came to finishing.

01:36:16.000 He also fucked up Shavkot's knee.

01:36:18.000 He hit him with that oblique kick to the knee, and that's the reason why Shavkot had to get surgery.

01:36:18.000 Yeah.

01:36:22.000 Really?

01:36:23.000 And he's had two surgeries since.

01:36:24.000 Yeah.

01:36:25.000 Like, Ian even made a post about it.

01:36:26.000 Yeah.

01:36:27.000 Damn.

01:36:27.000 So rude.

01:36:29.000 So rude.

01:36:30.000 This is why he had to get surgery.

01:36:31.000 I think Ian made a post.

01:36:33.000 That maybe somebody attributed to Ian.

01:36:33.000 I saw a post.

01:36:36.000 But it was his work.

01:36:37.000 I mean, look, it's a legal technique and he's really good at it.

01:36:40.000 And the way he throws it, that oblique way sideways to the knee, that's fucking devastating.

01:36:44.000 And he's long enough to do it.

01:36:46.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:36:46.000 He just kind of.

01:36:46.000 Yeah, man.

01:36:47.000 John Jones style.

01:36:48.000 But he's like, the way he could move in with combinations, it's very hard to deal with.

01:36:53.000 But even he had to fucking grab MVPs.

01:36:56.000 I know, right?

01:36:56.000 Like, fuck him.

01:36:57.000 Yeah.

01:36:58.000 Even him.

01:36:58.000 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

01:37:01.000 Where you can't hit them.

01:37:02.000 And you're like, what am I doing here?

01:37:02.000 Yeah.

01:37:04.000 Well, But that's why I like Ian.

01:37:07.000 Think about that.

01:37:08.000 He's able to solve them problems.

01:37:10.000 His IQ is so high, he's beating guys like MVP and Carlos Protez, guys that other people can't beat.

01:37:18.000 Very true.

01:37:19.000 Very true.

01:37:19.000 Look at that.

01:37:20.000 There it is right there.

01:37:21.000 That's it right there, man.

01:37:23.000 Can you back it up again so we hit it?

01:37:24.000 Right there.

01:37:25.000 Oh, my God, dude.

01:37:26.000 Damn, that's a fucked up card.

01:37:27.000 Look how bad that is.

01:37:29.000 I used to do that in the wooden dummy.

01:37:32.000 See, there you go.

01:37:32.000 That's a Wing Chun.

01:37:33.000 Those Wing Chuns are awesome.

01:37:34.000 Yeah, it is a stomp kick.

01:37:34.000 That's a stomp kick.

01:37:36.000 It's real.

01:37:37.000 Wing Chun works.

01:37:39.000 Proof.

01:37:40.000 Bro, Gary's no joke, man.

01:37:40.000 That's it.

01:37:41.000 He's fucking dangerous.

01:37:43.000 And that style of being that tall is so hard to deal with.

01:37:48.000 Matt, my short brother, you know what I'm talking about.

01:37:49.000 Dude, let me tell you something.

01:37:50.000 Especially little trolls like us.

01:37:52.000 They'd always try to latch onto my head.

01:37:54.000 Yeah, it's just so hard to even spar with tall guys because they can hit you from six inches further away than you can hit them.

01:38:01.000 That's a lot of space.

01:38:02.000 Yeah, you got to come in behind that double, triple jab.

01:38:05.000 I love the fact that you can do anything.

01:38:08.000 And you should be able to kick to the knees.

01:38:10.000 I hate the fact that it blew his knee out.

01:38:12.000 We really haven't seen him the same since.

01:38:14.000 I mean, he's been having surgeries now.

01:38:16.000 He's had two surgeries.

01:38:18.000 I think he had one fight after that, right?

01:38:21.000 Did he have one more fight after the Gary fight?

01:38:24.000 Did he have a bad car accident or something like that too?

01:38:27.000 Yeah, Shavkot?

01:38:27.000 Did he?

01:38:29.000 Damn.

01:38:29.000 I thought so.

01:38:30.000 I don't know.

01:38:31.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

01:38:32.000 Or maybe it was just his family?

01:38:34.000 Maybe.

01:38:34.000 I don't know.

01:38:35.000 I hope he's okay.

01:38:36.000 I just missed the guy in the octagon.

01:38:37.000 He's fucking good, man.

01:38:39.000 Chavka was good.

01:38:40.000 It's just like one technique can change your whole life.

01:38:42.000 Yeah, I thought he was coming back, like trying to rehab from whatever, from the accident.

01:38:47.000 Oh, so it was the accident?

01:38:49.000 I thought that's, I mean, look, he obviously.

01:38:51.000 Well, first it was.

01:38:52.000 Because it hurt his leg.

01:38:52.000 For sure.

01:38:53.000 For sure.

01:38:54.000 He had ACL surgery before that.

01:38:56.000 So he might have died.

01:38:57.000 Maybe that's what happened.

01:38:58.000 Maybe he redid it.

01:39:00.000 Fuck, dude, that sucks.

01:39:01.000 He's so good.

01:39:02.000 But then again, it's like this fucking sport waits for no one.

01:39:06.000 These dudes are coming up.

01:39:07.000 Coming up.

01:39:08.000 You know what I'm bombed that got canceled this weekend is Ethan Ewing.

01:39:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:39:12.000 That kid's good, man.

01:39:13.000 Yeah, that was going to be a good.

01:39:13.000 He's so good.

01:39:14.000 That kid was fighting his first slouch.

01:39:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:39:17.000 He came onto the scene.

01:39:19.000 And it was a swellmaker.

01:39:20.000 A short notice fight versus a swellmaker at Madison Square Garden.

01:39:24.000 Yeah.

01:39:25.000 And.

01:39:28.000 Wellmaker's having a hard time lately.

01:39:29.000 He lost his last one, too.

01:39:30.000 And he's a better fighter than that.

01:39:32.000 So he's a young kid.

01:39:33.000 So we'll see the best from him yet.

01:39:35.000 But he came out so spectacular, Wellmaker did.

01:39:38.000 He looks so good in his debut.

01:39:41.000 And on the contender series, he looks like he's really good.

01:39:44.000 But fucking Ethan, you're slick.

01:39:46.000 He's really good.

01:39:47.000 He's slick.

01:39:48.000 And he's another guy, like we're talking about.

01:39:48.000 He's real good.

01:39:51.000 This new breed of guys, like the Sanhagans.

01:39:53.000 He's constantly switching stances.

01:39:56.000 Constantly giving you different angles and directions.

01:39:59.000 It's like very hard to pattern them.

01:40:01.000 Is he on the Connor card too, right?

01:40:03.000 He was on.

01:40:03.000 Oh, he's on the Connor card.

01:40:05.000 Yeah, San Hagen is.

01:40:06.000 Yeah, San Hagen is.

01:40:06.000 Bautista.

01:40:07.000 Yeah.

01:40:08.000 But he was.

01:40:09.000 Ethan was on the card, and I think they pulled him off.

01:40:12.000 Yeah, he was.

01:40:13.000 The dude he's fighting was undefeated.

01:40:15.000 Bosserat.

01:40:15.000 What's.

01:40:15.000 There it is.

01:40:16.000 Yeah.

01:40:17.000 Fuck.

01:40:18.000 And Bosserat's good.

01:40:19.000 Yeah.

01:40:20.000 That's a really good card.

01:40:21.000 He's tall, rangy.

01:40:22.000 He.

01:40:23.000 Like, that would have been interesting.

01:40:24.000 Can we see the rest of the card?

01:40:26.000 He's injured.

01:40:27.000 He'll be back.

01:40:28.000 But I like the fact that he's not fighting injured too.

01:40:31.000 Because it's a pretty significant injury.

01:40:33.000 And so when these guys say, fuck it, I'll just do it.

01:40:36.000 And then you have one loss, and then that loss leads you, you know, your career can go down a weird road.

01:40:41.000 Pretty good card.

01:40:42.000 It's a very good card.

01:40:43.000 It is a good card.

01:40:44.000 Benoit and Saint Denis and Patty Pimblett.

01:40:46.000 Right.

01:40:46.000 That's right.

01:40:47.000 And then Josh Hoket is on this one, too, right?

01:40:47.000 And then Connor Max Awey.

01:40:49.000 Yep.

01:40:51.000 Yeah, there was.

01:40:52.000 It was going around that he was going to fight Josh Hoket.

01:40:54.000 And I was like, please don't make that be true.

01:40:55.000 Yeah.

01:40:57.000 But he's a minus 2,500.

01:40:59.000 Robert Whitaker and Nikita Kryloff is good, too, man.

01:41:02.000 Robert is going from 170 to 85 to now light heavyweight.

01:41:02.000 Yeah.

01:41:07.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:41:08.000 And he's not that big.

01:41:09.000 Not that big.

01:41:11.000 Is he like six feet tall?

01:41:12.000 Not even.

01:41:13.000 No?

01:41:13.000 No.

01:41:15.000 How tall is Robert?

01:41:16.000 Six feet tall?

01:41:17.000 Yeah, six.

01:41:18.000 So he's a thick fella.

01:41:21.000 Yeah.

01:41:22.000 Definitely got to be walking around at like 230 or something like that.

01:41:25.000 But these guys are so tall and so rangy.

01:41:28.000 And that fucking Nikita Kryloff guy can kick.

01:41:32.000 Yeah, he's a legit.

01:41:32.000 205 or so.

01:41:33.000 He's Cody's still a little bit.

01:41:35.000 He was lighting up Yuri in that fight before he got caught, remember?

01:41:39.000 Mm hmm.

01:41:39.000 Yeah.

01:41:40.000 He was lighting Yuri up.

01:41:41.000 For sure.

01:41:41.000 Yeah.

01:41:44.000 Cody, I think it's time to.

01:41:47.000 Cody Garbrant?

01:41:48.000 Adrian Yanez, man, he went through a bad streak too, but that dude's very skillful.

01:41:52.000 Very good boxer.

01:41:53.000 Yeah, he looked good in his last.

01:41:55.000 What's Cody doing too?

01:41:56.000 What is this thing on his eye?

01:41:57.000 Is he angry that he's good looking?

01:41:59.000 Yanez is, yeah.

01:42:00.000 Is he angry that he's good looking?

01:42:01.000 Yeah, he's got to doctor it up.

01:42:03.000 The kids these days, they like face tattoos.

01:42:05.000 He's young as 450, um, favorite.

01:42:08.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:42:09.000 Like, mine's 450.

01:42:10.000 Cody's chin, man.

01:42:11.000 He's just been too many times.

01:42:13.000 Too many times.

01:42:14.000 Well, that's an age thing, too.

01:42:16.000 I mean, Cody's not actually that old.

01:42:18.000 I think he's only like 33.

01:42:21.000 How old is Cody Garbrandt?

01:42:22.000 33?

01:42:23.000 No, he's got to be older than that.

01:42:24.000 I don't think he's old.

01:42:26.000 No, I don't think he's old.

01:42:27.000 I think he started his career 34.

01:42:29.000 Oh, my God.

01:42:29.000 34.

01:42:30.000 Yeah, see, I think he started his career really young.

01:42:32.000 35.

01:42:32.000 Dude, fucking a max.

01:42:33.000 35 now?

01:42:34.000 Oh, July 7th.

01:42:35.000 Oh, so next week.

01:42:35.000 Next week.

01:42:36.000 Max started.

01:42:36.000 He was what, 19?

01:42:37.000 This guy's still great.

01:42:39.000 Yeah, well, you know, when I interviewed them for the UFC at the White House, which is the most ridiculous thing in the world, I'm sitting there in this beautiful, adorned room with gold on the ceiling and shit like that, and on a chair with a camera in front of me.

01:42:53.000 And then there's a monitor here that's Connor, and there's a monitor there that's Max.

01:42:58.000 And they're arguing with each other.

01:42:59.000 You won't lay a glove on me.

01:43:01.000 It's like, there you go.

01:43:04.000 There you go.

01:43:07.000 It was crazy to see the two of them going back and forth with each other.

01:43:10.000 It's Fun seeing Connor come back, man.

01:43:13.000 I know.

01:43:13.000 He's fun.

01:43:14.000 I mean, he is the world's greatest.

01:43:15.000 He cracked me up, man.

01:43:16.000 He was cracking me up.

01:43:17.000 I can't wait till fight week.

01:43:19.000 It's going to be amazing.

01:43:20.000 Look, I hope he looks great.

01:43:20.000 Yeah.

01:43:21.000 I hope it's a good fight.

01:43:23.000 But, you know, it's a tall order to take on Max Holloway after he was just the BMF champion.

01:43:28.000 He beat Dustin Poirier.

01:43:29.000 Yeah, he lost to Ilya.

01:43:30.000 But, like, you look at the wins that that guy's had in his career and how he's looked since their first fight.

01:43:36.000 This is a totally different human being.

01:43:38.000 This is a world champion, like, one of the all time featherweight greats.

01:43:38.000 Yeah.

01:43:43.000 I think if Connor don't knock him out early, he's in for a long night.

01:43:46.000 Yeah.

01:43:47.000 Max can fight with no weight cut, no weight cut.

01:43:49.000 I could have made a spike.

01:43:50.000 I could have made a spike.

01:43:51.000 People are saying, like, oh, yeah, but what about moving up weight?

01:43:51.000 I never get tired.

01:43:53.000 I'm like, that's great for him.

01:43:55.000 He don't have to cut no weight.

01:43:56.000 It's great for both of them.

01:43:56.000 It's great for him.

01:43:57.000 Listen, this is the future, I would hope.

01:44:00.000 I would hope guys would abandon weight cutting.

01:44:02.000 I really do.

01:44:03.000 And I think the UFC should accommodate it by letting go of these ridiculous weight limits.

01:44:08.000 Let's just find out what guys weigh.

01:44:10.000 Let's find out what guys weigh and, like, have them fight.

01:44:10.000 Yeah.

01:44:14.000 Like, does one still do that?

01:44:17.000 I mean, that was the way to go.

01:44:18.000 Like, we went at the beginning of the year, and then, like, this is where you're going to fight.

01:44:21.000 If I would run things like one because they also allow steroids, allegedly.

01:44:25.000 I might have just made that up.

01:44:26.000 I don't want to get slandered.

01:44:28.000 I don't want to get sued.

01:44:29.000 I don't think they do.

01:44:30.000 I think they have drug tests at one.

01:44:32.000 I think it's like a multiple choice.

01:44:34.000 Multiple choice.

01:44:37.000 I want guys to take tests at one.

01:44:39.000 I want them to take peptides.

01:44:41.000 I want them to take everything they have.

01:44:42.000 I want to give them a hyperbaric chamber.

01:44:44.000 Like, let's go, boys.

01:44:45.000 Yeah.

01:44:45.000 And then just release them.

01:44:47.000 Yeah, release the hounds.

01:44:48.000 I want the best fighting that's humanly available.

01:44:50.000 The old fucking pride days.

01:44:52.000 Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

01:44:53.000 I want the enhanced games, MMA bouts.

01:44:55.000 Yes.

01:44:57.000 But with Connor and Max, one guy, even in his prime, Connor's always shown signs that his endurance was never the best.

01:45:06.000 He's a sprinter.

01:45:07.000 And Max is, man, he's the guy in the last round, he's winning a fight.

01:45:13.000 Max still sprints.

01:45:14.000 Yeah, he's fresh.

01:45:14.000 Max is still sprinting.

01:45:16.000 His fifth round is.

01:45:18.000 As good as this first one.

01:45:19.000 Max's discipline is beyond compare.

01:45:22.000 Like, that motherfucker trains hard.

01:45:24.000 You might train just as hard, but there ain't harder.

01:45:28.000 There ain't harder.

01:45:29.000 The craziest one was when he put it on Calvin Cater and he was just talking to him.

01:45:34.000 Yeah, yeah, we were there.

01:45:35.000 I had the best time.

01:45:35.000 We were there.

01:45:37.000 It was so crazy.

01:45:38.000 I was watching that cage side and him looking away, talking and hitting him was just something.

01:45:44.000 Bro, how about Brian Ortega when he was fighting him, showing him how to Keep his hands on the head.

01:45:49.000 Oh, yeah, he's a bad pitcher.

01:45:50.000 He grabs him, grabs his hand, and puts it by his head.

01:45:50.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:45:53.000 No, do like this.

01:45:54.000 He can block it, and then pops him with a jab again.

01:45:57.000 Bro, Max Holloway's a bad motherfucker, dude.

01:46:00.000 100%.

01:46:01.000 You know, I think it's going to be interesting to see.

01:46:03.000 Look, Connor in his prime was elite.

01:46:06.000 Connor Eddie Alvarez, if it's that Connor right now fighting Max, I'd be like, holy shit.

01:46:10.000 Yeah, that's different.

01:46:11.000 That's different.

01:46:13.000 But can he regain that form?

01:46:14.000 Right.

01:46:15.000 I mean, he's a special dude.

01:46:15.000 We don't know.

01:46:17.000 Look at this.

01:46:17.000 Just pop.

01:46:19.000 Talking shit to him.

01:46:23.000 Dana was losing his mind over there.

01:46:26.000 Yeah.

01:46:26.000 There's also COVID, so you could kind of hear him, right?

01:46:28.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:46:29.000 Because this is not.

01:46:30.000 Oh, look at that.

01:46:31.000 Look at it.

01:46:31.000 Look at that right there.

01:46:32.000 He wasn't even looking at it.

01:46:33.000 It was slipping shit.

01:46:34.000 I'm the best boxer in the UFC.

01:46:36.000 Look at this.

01:46:37.000 Bro, he's such a bad motherfucker.

01:46:39.000 Man.

01:46:39.000 And if he starts talking to Connor like that in the middle of the fight and teeing off on him, if Connor gets tired, it could get rough.

01:46:46.000 Look at his last fight with Dustin.

01:46:47.000 Yeah.

01:46:48.000 The difference is, Connor, I don't give a fuck if he's 39.

01:46:51.000 I don't care how old he is.

01:46:53.000 That dude's got the touch.

01:46:55.000 Yeah, he does.

01:46:55.000 He's got the touch of death.

01:46:57.000 And he's very accurate.

01:46:58.000 And he's accurate and he's fast as fuck.

01:47:01.000 And when he's sprinting, when he's sprinting, he moves quicker than anybody.

01:47:04.000 And it's like, you can't do that for five rounds, but if he does it and cracks you.

01:47:10.000 You're on Fuxville.

01:47:11.000 Look what he did to Aldo.

01:47:12.000 Who the fuck's ever done that to Aldo?

01:47:15.000 That's the touch.

01:47:16.000 Do you think there's any chance that Connor wrestles him?

01:47:18.000 I think Connor might try to wrestle him a little bit.

01:47:20.000 That's what Nate said.

01:47:21.000 All of a sudden he wanted to turn into a repair fight.

01:47:24.000 Maybe looking at that and then maybe seeing it.

01:47:27.000 I don't see that.

01:47:28.000 I think Max has got to put it on him a little bit and then he'll shoot because he's not in it for war.

01:47:32.000 That's going to get him even more tired.

01:47:33.000 He did in his first fight.

01:47:35.000 He wrestled.

01:47:35.000 We say he's not in it for war, but he can surprise us, man.

01:47:39.000 Like, you know, the humiliation of losing that second fight.

01:47:41.000 To dust him with a broken leg and sitting there and having to go out for all the.

01:47:45.000 Who knows how he responded to that?

01:47:47.000 Obviously, he did a lot of partying.

01:47:49.000 We don't know what kind of training, you know, and if he really is still the Conor McGregor that had something to prove when he entered into the UFC and he can get himself into that mindset and get through a camp with that mindset, who knows, man?

01:48:03.000 I mean, he definitely looked focused as fuck when I was talking to him in the interview.

01:48:07.000 It doesn't really mean anything until you actually see him move around.

01:48:11.000 But if he really prepared himself correctly and he wants to make a stand and show that he could still do it, This might get wild.

01:48:17.000 But if that's the strategy, fuck, man.

01:48:20.000 If he's worried about his endurance already, or if that's a question, if that's the strategy, it's not like he's going to take him down and just smoke him.

01:48:27.000 Max has got, hey, he has a round.

01:48:29.000 Oh, Max has just gotten so bad.

01:48:30.000 Nobody survived with Charles Oliveira.

01:48:32.000 Yeah, it looks like he's going to take him down and just smoke him.

01:48:34.000 Right.

01:48:35.000 I would like to talk to Kavanaugh and see what was the plan.

01:48:38.000 Like, how did, what did you guys do?

01:48:39.000 How long was the camp?

01:48:40.000 Like, how did it start?

01:48:42.000 What was he doing before the camp?

01:48:44.000 Yeah, so I had talked to Lorasanko, who interviewed Kavanaugh.

01:48:47.000 And she said that he wouldn't say it, but he kind of alluded to that wrestling might be a part of the game plan.

01:48:47.000 Oh, okay.

01:48:54.000 Well, that might be a ruse.

01:48:55.000 Yeah.

01:48:56.000 That might be to lure.

01:48:56.000 Yeah.

01:48:58.000 Because the way that Charles handled Max in the last fight was crazy.

01:49:02.000 But also, that's Charles.

01:49:03.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:49:04.000 So I'm just getting ready.

01:49:05.000 Nobody else talks.

01:49:07.000 Charles is a fucking monster on the ground.

01:49:09.000 Charles is Charles.

01:49:10.000 He's so good on the ground, man.

01:49:13.000 Max had to survive some shit that other people would have tapped.

01:49:16.000 And here's what's crazy Islam smushed him.

01:49:20.000 I know.

01:49:21.000 I know.

01:49:21.000 Right?

01:49:22.000 Right?

01:49:22.000 There's crazy levels to this sport.

01:49:25.000 Yeah, true.

01:49:26.000 Islam smushed him.

01:49:27.000 I know.

01:49:28.000 He got him to the ground.

01:49:28.000 Made him look bad.

01:49:29.000 Made him look bad.

01:49:30.000 He was tapping like immediately.

01:49:32.000 He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:49:33.000 I ain't getting out of this.

01:49:33.000 Yeah.

01:49:34.000 I'm going night, night.

01:49:36.000 That's how good he is.

01:49:37.000 I mean, his squeeze.

01:49:38.000 When he got Drew Dober in half guard.

01:49:40.000 Oh, I know.

01:49:41.000 When he got that arm triangle from half guard, it's like, there ain't no half guard here.

01:49:44.000 Yeah.

01:49:45.000 This is just smush.

01:49:46.000 Pressure.

01:49:46.000 Yeah.

01:49:47.000 The pressure is fucking phenomenal.

01:49:49.000 Incredible squeeze.

01:49:50.000 Like, he just cuts off the blood.

01:49:50.000 Yeah.

01:49:52.000 Like, there's nothing you could do about it.

01:49:54.000 That forearm grip, Darce, that he uses, do you fuck with that?

01:49:57.000 I don't mess with that, but I know how powerful it is.

01:50:00.000 Do you fuck with it, Matt?

01:50:01.000 No, that was never my thing.

01:50:03.000 The Anacondas and the Dorces.

01:50:05.000 Because we're short-armed little guys.

01:50:06.000 That's what the fuck is.

01:50:07.000 Surprising me with these things.

01:50:09.000 These are great for some things, but not for Dorces.

01:50:12.000 But it should be shorter for y'all because all y'all have to do is grip here.

01:50:15.000 Yeah, I never tried it though.

01:50:17.000 But I did used to like the Japanese necktie for the same reason.

01:50:19.000 Because the Japanese necktie, when you're funneling under for that underhook on the left arm and you get it behind the head, you cinch down like this.

01:50:27.000 And then instead of trying to go all the way through and cinch it up as a dars, you take it from this position with this lever on the back of the neck and you tuck the neck into your chest.

01:50:36.000 Okay, yeah.

01:50:37.000 And then you grab a leg, you grab a leg, and you do this.

01:50:40.000 Yeah.

01:50:40.000 You lean on this shoulder.

01:50:42.000 So once you cinch it up, as soon as you get this forearm behind the neck, the first thing to do is you put your left shoulder to the mat.

01:50:48.000 So your left shoulder, you drop down the mat, and usually they think they're going to spin out of it, but you're trapping the head in a jack.

01:50:54.000 Put your shoulder to the floor, right?

01:50:55.000 There's a video of me, see if we can, there's a video of me showing it to TJ Dillashaw.

01:51:00.000 We're at the On It headquarters and I'm showing him how to do it.

01:51:03.000 It's great for short arm.

01:51:04.000 Wait, you're on his back, you're saying?

01:51:05.000 No, you're on the darsh position, right?

01:51:07.000 So he's got the underhook.

01:51:08.000 You funnel under, you get it behind the head.

01:51:10.000 Once you get it behind the head, you use this lever, you pin that down on the neck, and the first thing I want to do is put my left shoulder over on the top.

01:51:17.000 So here it is.

01:51:18.000 So here it is.

01:51:19.000 So once you get to this position and you climp, I want to put my shoulder down, and then his head is trapped.

01:51:26.000 Yeah.

01:51:27.000 Ooh.

01:51:28.000 Is that a neck crank?

01:51:29.000 100%.

01:51:30.000 It's horrible.

01:51:30.000 You're hipping in?

01:51:31.000 Yes.

01:51:32.000 And you usually grab a hold of a leg.

01:51:35.000 It's right there.

01:51:35.000 You can just step over.

01:51:36.000 Jamie, back it up to where I'm showing it to him, and then I talk through it.

01:51:40.000 Back it up a little bit.

01:51:42.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:51:42.000 Give me some volume.

01:51:43.000 Okay, let's.

01:51:52.000 Like, hook this leg.

01:51:53.000 I'm going on my left shoulder.

01:51:55.000 Yeah.

01:51:55.000 So I'm all the way sideways.

01:51:56.000 Okay, yeah, yeah.

01:51:57.000 So there's a tremendous.

01:51:58.000 So you're hooking the leg even before you fall down, too.

01:52:01.000 Yeah, because you're holding up.

01:52:02.000 Yeah, because you're holding up.

01:52:03.000 You're holding up.

01:52:04.000 If you fall down, exactly.

01:52:05.000 So as soon as I cinch my hands together, I'm hooking the leg.

01:52:07.000 Yeah.

01:52:08.000 I want to tie him up.

01:52:09.000 Yeah.

01:52:09.000 I want to tie him up and I want to get him in a position where he thinks he's going to roll out of it like you would with a dart.

01:52:13.000 Right.

01:52:13.000 You can't roll out of it.

01:52:14.000 You can't now, you already got the dart.

01:52:15.000 Exactly.

01:52:15.000 Because I'm also trapping your head in my chest.

01:52:17.000 Ah.

01:52:17.000 So you're just worried about me getting this, but I'm not even trying to get that.

01:52:20.000 I'm just getting to this.

01:52:20.000 Yeah.

01:52:21.000 Can you give some volume right here?

01:52:29.000 Would you get it?

01:52:34.000 See, people like when they put their legs in there.

01:52:36.000 That's what he was just saying.

01:52:37.000 That's why it's like it's really good.

01:52:39.000 That cranks that neck.

01:52:40.000 Is that Danny Castillo?

01:52:42.000 Yeah.

01:52:49.000 You very rarely see this in the UFC.

01:52:51.000 And it's available too because also the gloves.

01:52:53.000 They get in the way of certain chokes, like definitely rear naked chokes.

01:52:56.000 It's so hard to get the hand in the proper position with the back of the hand on the head.

01:53:00.000 Does it matter which leg you step over?

01:53:02.000 Like he stepped over the first, you stepped over the far leg.

01:53:05.000 The far leg's better.

01:53:06.000 You get better control, but it doesn't matter as long as you can tie him up and trap his head inside your chest.

01:53:11.000 So once the head's in the chest, you're in a terrible position to defend because it puts your head at this nasty angle.

01:53:17.000 Like the moment your head gets to that angle, so TJ's showing like one of the ways that he does it.

01:53:21.000 I was going to say his grip is different from yours.

01:53:23.000 He's trying a different grip.

01:53:25.000 He's trying a different grip.

01:53:26.000 Yeah.

01:53:27.000 I like my grip better.

01:53:28.000 Well, it's not my grip.

01:53:29.000 It's Eddie Bravo's grip.

01:53:30.000 But I like the grip better because you got the lever.

01:53:33.000 So the thing is about having it go through this lever, when you get this forearm in the back of the neck, that's a lot of power.

01:53:38.000 Yeah.

01:53:39.000 There's a lot of power that way.

01:53:41.000 So if you see how I'm doing, I'm doing it like a little bit.

01:53:43.000 And he's just like, well, yours too.

01:53:45.000 You're all on his head and neck.

01:53:47.000 TJ is cradling his mom.

01:53:49.000 That's so he did it that way now, like in that time.

01:53:52.000 Now he's doing it the right way.

01:53:54.000 That's nasty.

01:53:54.000 And then once it gets in the chest, yep, trap the leg.

01:53:57.000 He can trap either leg.

01:53:58.000 It's the whole thing is just trapping the head.

01:54:00.000 You just want to make sure you have contact with his body so his left legs or his right, his legs rather can't spin out.

01:54:05.000 You don't want them spinning out because then his head's going to get free.

01:54:09.000 It's nasty, but it's just I don't see it in MMA and I don't know why because it's available when guys are trying to get the darks and they can't get it.

01:54:17.000 Like, there's a lot of times the legs are tangled up and it's it's horrible because you have this lever.

01:54:22.000 You remember when Khabib tapped Connor and everybody's like, Oh, you didn't even, it wasn't even in the choke.

01:54:27.000 He was doing that same shit, but he was doing it across the neck on the Back, it's horrible, it's gonna break your neck, man, and that's what that feels like.

01:54:35.000 But that's even worse because it's sideways, and you got your body on it, yeah.

01:54:40.000 But the worst that I've never seen in the UFC is the executioner.

01:54:44.000 I don't think I've ever seen anybody get that rear, that you know, you're in the back mount and you reach over, you go guillotine, yes, That's the leaning back, right?

01:55:05.000 Yeah, it's horrible in your neck.

01:55:08.000 Anything that attacks the spine and the fuck.

01:55:10.000 Oh, they're horrible.

01:55:12.000 My man couldn't tear fast enough.

01:55:13.000 Yeah.

01:55:14.000 The executioner's the worst.

01:55:15.000 Because you've got rear naked hooks.

01:55:15.000 Yeah.

01:55:17.000 Oh, it's true.

01:55:18.000 And you've got the head back this way.

01:55:19.000 Oh, man.

01:55:20.000 And you're going like that.

01:55:21.000 That's nuts.

01:55:22.000 That's nuts.

01:55:24.000 Yeah.

01:55:25.000 Now, that's a catch wrestling thing, right?

01:55:27.000 Oh, that?

01:55:28.000 I don't know, man.

01:55:29.000 That sort of started popping up at 10th Planet, at least, like in the 2000s, like 2003 or 2004.

01:55:37.000 Epstein likes to call it the executioner.

01:55:39.000 But he wasn't the only guy doing it.

01:55:40.000 Like other guys had figured it out.

01:55:42.000 So you're in north south, which a lot of guys, you know, that was back in the north.

01:55:46.000 Oh, God.

01:55:46.000 Yeah, this is it right here.

01:55:48.000 Bro, this is holy hell.

01:55:50.000 When you're in rear naked choke position, but you have the arm wrapped like that, the amount of pressure on the spine is just crazy.

01:56:00.000 You could paralyze 100%.

01:56:02.000 Should I, 200%?

01:56:04.000 Long Island knucklehead, they'll be fucking making sure everybody's signing a waiver on that.

01:56:09.000 But look how nasty this is.

01:56:11.000 Like, it's such a bad position to try to defend.

01:56:13.000 You have no strength to defend it.

01:56:15.000 Yeah, that's a wrap.

01:56:16.000 Hell.

01:56:17.000 That's a wrap.

01:56:18.000 And I don't see it in the UFC, and I don't understand why.

01:56:21.000 I think it's available.

01:56:22.000 I think some guys could get this.

01:56:25.000 I mean, not always, but there's a lot of times you're trying to fight the rear naked choke, or you're trying to get the rear naked choke, and the guy's defending.

01:56:32.000 If you switch to something like this, if you could find a way to get into a position like this, you're not going to defend that, man.

01:56:38.000 Well, the truth is that a lot of guys in the UFC or in MMA in general don't really practice jujitsu from that standpoint.

01:56:45.000 They do anti-jujitsu because they think that their chances of winning a fight on their feet are better.

01:56:50.000 So their idea is just like defend and take down, get back to my feet.

01:56:53.000 Or just use basic jiu jitsu.

01:56:53.000 Yeah.

01:56:55.000 So, like, stuff like this that's available to them, they don't know it.

01:56:58.000 Or they don't practice it enough for it to be instinctive for them to do it.

01:57:02.000 The fact that they're just trying to get up to their feet is the first problem.

01:57:05.000 Right?

01:57:05.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:57:06.000 Yeah.

01:57:06.000 Because look at Gilbert Burns versus Damian Maya.

01:57:10.000 Right.

01:57:10.000 Matches jiu jitsu a little bit.

01:57:12.000 Then he finds the opening.

01:57:13.000 If he doesn't match jiu jitsu, he'll use that.

01:57:15.000 But then he has to move a certain way.

01:57:17.000 He gives enough space to get to his feet.

01:57:19.000 God, I got to remember this guy's name.

01:57:20.000 The guy who's the Bellator champion, who's from Ukraine, who's fighting in the UFC, that one's Amazov.

01:57:25.000 Bro.

01:57:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:57:26.000 Yeah, Yaroslav Amazov.

01:57:27.000 What's that?

01:57:28.000 I knew that was the name and I didn't want to fuck it up and I was panicking.

01:57:32.000 Yeah.

01:57:34.000 It's not easy to forget.

01:57:35.000 Bro, you know when I really panic?

01:57:36.000 Weigh in days.

01:57:37.000 You look at my face.

01:57:39.000 Are you really in a hot panic?

01:57:40.000 I'll be feeling for you sometimes.

01:57:41.000 I'm like, man, he's going to forget the name.

01:57:44.000 You don't bring the paper up?

01:57:47.000 I do.

01:57:48.000 I have to.

01:57:49.000 Not only that, I have to listen to these fucking names over and over and over again.

01:57:52.000 Fucking, some of that shit's coming.

01:57:54.000 And you know, it's a beat.

01:57:55.000 Makamon, Cheripov, what?

01:57:57.000 And Annick is going to be mad at you if you mess it up.

01:57:59.000 He's so.

01:58:00.000 Good at it.

01:58:00.000 I don't know how you do it.

01:58:01.000 He should be doing it.

01:58:02.000 I should just give the microphone name.

01:58:03.000 He'll introduce the guy.

01:58:04.000 I'll just interview people.

01:58:06.000 He's the best at naming the names.

01:58:08.000 I do that on Unfiltered.

01:58:09.000 I go, hey, Jimmy, who do we have next?

01:58:11.000 It's a fucking crazy name.

01:58:13.000 I just get the first name down.

01:58:15.000 Yurislav is good.

01:58:16.000 He's good.

01:58:17.000 He's good.

01:58:18.000 His ground game is so sweet.

01:58:19.000 Did you see him fight?

01:58:22.000 Which show?

01:58:24.000 Pull up his last fight.

01:58:26.000 Yeah, he beat up Joel.

01:58:29.000 Yeah, bro.

01:58:30.000 Back it up a little bit so you can see the takedown.

01:58:31.000 Watch how he does this.

01:58:32.000 Look at how beautiful this is.

01:58:34.000 Bro.

01:58:34.000 It's all in there.

01:58:36.000 I mean, right into arm triangle.

01:58:38.000 Look at this.

01:58:39.000 Wow, that's a freaking thing.

01:58:40.000 Bro, and then he goes knee to the belly, too.

01:58:42.000 Just crushing him.

01:58:43.000 Did you see his setup for Neil Magni?

01:58:46.000 Yes.

01:58:47.000 He's so smooth, man.

01:58:47.000 Oh, man.

01:58:48.000 He's smooth.

01:58:50.000 Dude, he put it on Neil.

01:58:51.000 Yeah.

01:58:52.000 Yeah, and then he breakdances.

01:58:53.000 Oh, he breakdances.

01:58:56.000 Got to have something.

01:58:56.000 Actually, look at that, man.

01:58:58.000 Little windmill.

01:58:59.000 Yeah.

01:59:00.000 That guy can move.

01:59:01.000 And that guy's really good.

01:59:03.000 He's dangerous.

01:59:04.000 Old Sean Alvarez, he would be doing the windmill.

01:59:07.000 He has one KO loss.

01:59:08.000 That was Jason Jackson.

01:59:10.000 Yeah, Jason Jackson knocked him out.

01:59:12.000 He just put it on him.

01:59:13.000 Jason Jackson just murdered him.

01:59:16.000 Just like ran across and beat him up.

01:59:18.000 Yeah, I was talking to Big John and Josh Thompson on the podcast.

01:59:22.000 They brought him up that he's like the most unheralded, the most underappreciated of the guys that are out there.

01:59:28.000 Yeah.

01:59:28.000 Jason Jackson?

01:59:29.000 Yeah.

01:59:30.000 So that's a problem when you're not in the UFC.

01:59:32.000 That is.

01:59:33.000 And if the UFC picks him up, I mean, it's going to be kind of late.

01:59:35.000 He had to.

01:59:36.000 Dig through the rubble of his house to get his ass back.

01:59:38.000 Holy shit.

01:59:39.000 Jeez, that's nuts, man.

01:59:41.000 That's crazy.

01:59:42.000 That's nuts.

01:59:44.000 Put shit in perspective real fast.

01:59:46.000 Holy shit, dude.

01:59:49.000 How bad did he want that belt?

01:59:50.000 For real.

01:59:51.000 I mean, this dude went back to a war zone to get his belt.

01:59:51.000 Right?

01:59:54.000 A belt.

01:59:54.000 Bellator.

01:59:55.000 Bellator.

01:59:56.000 Christ, imagine if it was a UFC belt.

01:59:58.000 I'd have left that motherfucking air.

02:00:01.000 That's so crazy.

02:00:02.000 Bellator belt.

02:00:03.000 That fucking dude's good, man.

02:00:05.000 There's so many good guys now.

02:00:06.000 It's crazy.

02:00:07.000 It's just a wild time for the sport, man.

02:00:09.000 Yeah.

02:00:09.000 You know, I like Big John.

02:00:13.000 You know, one thing I don't like that he does?

02:00:15.000 Well, it always irks me.

02:00:17.000 Big John McCarthy.

02:00:19.000 And I won the title.

02:00:19.000 I like him.

02:00:20.000 He was my guy.

02:00:21.000 But I hate this.

02:00:25.000 Man, as you fucking savages know, when you're in there, you're in a certain mindset, right?

02:00:32.000 You got a guy looking to do bodily harm to you.

02:00:34.000 You're looking to fucking take him out any way possible.

02:00:37.000 If there's a foul or something, now you're in this mindset.

02:00:41.000 So now you got this big fucking guy.

02:00:43.000 Hey, what do you see?

02:00:45.000 You see ugly?

02:00:48.000 Making jokes.

02:00:49.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:51.000 Okay.

02:00:52.000 Let me go back to this guy trying to kill me, big.

02:00:55.000 Good one, big John.

02:00:58.000 Really?

02:00:59.000 You don't like him making jokes today.

02:01:01.000 How about this?

02:01:02.000 How about you go to the mothership and bring that to Tony?

02:01:05.000 How about you put your name in the hat, you take the name out, and maybe you can use that on kill Tony.

02:01:13.000 I don't like that shit.

02:01:15.000 Fuck that.

02:01:16.000 Every time he does it, Oh my god.

02:01:18.000 There's something in me that makes me just be like, dude, is it about you?

02:01:22.000 What the fuck is the matter with you?

02:01:24.000 I'm a good one, Big John.

02:01:26.000 Oh, and you see the guys do it.

02:01:28.000 Sometimes you see the guys go, oh, yeah, all right.

02:01:31.000 Dude, fuck that.

02:01:33.000 It's the same as the guy looking to give you a high five out there.

02:01:36.000 Fuck that too.

02:01:37.000 Well, that's hard.

02:01:39.000 So, I mean, I don't know, man.

02:01:40.000 It always irked me and it just stuck out when his name came up.

02:01:44.000 And he's not a bad guy.

02:01:46.000 He's a great guy.

02:01:47.000 But how about this?

02:01:47.000 I love him.

02:01:49.000 Now that you're back reffing, Make a note of that, maybe.

02:01:55.000 Put your name in that.

02:01:56.000 That would fuck with your head, right?

02:01:56.000 Yeah, I can imagine.

02:01:58.000 You'd be like, man, make me listen to that joke.

02:02:00.000 Goddamn.

02:02:02.000 Fuck.

02:02:02.000 I just got poked in the air fucking working.

02:02:05.000 You see ugly?

02:02:05.000 What are you doing?

02:02:06.000 Bro, I think they're getting a little bit better about warning people for fouls, but not better about taking points.

02:02:13.000 They did for a little while.

02:02:14.000 It was hot and they were like, yeah.

02:02:16.000 And everybody was like, yes.

02:02:16.000 One point.

02:02:18.000 The crowd cheered.

02:02:20.000 That's how it's got to be, folks.

02:02:22.000 That's the new rule.

02:02:22.000 The new rule should be.

02:02:24.000 I poke one point.

02:02:26.000 Don't poke eyes.

02:02:27.000 If you do this shit and you jab someone in the eyes, one point.

02:02:29.000 One point.

02:02:29.000 Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

02:02:30.000 One point.

02:02:30.000 Right away, you know not to do it.

02:02:32.000 Sometimes it happens.

02:02:33.000 Unfortunately, if it happens, you get a point taken away.

02:02:35.000 Don't let it happen.

02:02:36.000 And you go back to your corner and go, make sure you don't do that again.

02:02:40.000 One point.

02:02:40.000 Nutshot.

02:02:42.000 Unintentional nutshot.

02:02:44.000 It's a warning.

02:02:45.000 Like, because you could kick while I'm kicking and you hit me in the nuts.

02:02:47.000 You weren't trying to hit me in the nuts.

02:02:49.000 We just collided legs.

02:02:50.000 That happens all the time.

02:02:52.000 The rough one is the call.

02:02:53.000 The call is the back of the head when you're trying to put a guy away.

02:02:57.000 Because he's moving his hair.

02:02:58.000 He's moving his hair.

02:03:00.000 That's hard, Ralph.

02:03:02.000 That's hard.

02:03:02.000 And that spot is a lot smaller than what most people think.

02:03:06.000 Because we think about it, they just say the back of the head.

02:03:08.000 So you're assuming that it's like anything, bitch.

02:03:10.000 It's just a mohawk.

02:03:11.000 This is like a little small piece.

02:03:13.000 Isn't that crazy, though?

02:03:14.000 You kind of should be able to hit the back of the head.

02:03:16.000 If everybody had the Ode Osborne haircut, it'd be okay.

02:03:20.000 Just don't hit him in his hair.

02:03:24.000 Bro, do you remember when Henzo fought, what was his name?

02:03:27.000 Rikers?

02:03:29.000 Ben Rikers.

02:03:29.000 Spikers.

02:03:31.000 Spikers.

02:03:32.000 And it showed if you're allowed to elbow the back of the head, the rear mount.

02:03:37.000 When Enzo got him up.

02:03:40.000 Bro.

02:03:41.000 When Enzo was dropping bombs on him and then stepped on his neck.

02:03:44.000 Stepped on him.

02:03:45.000 Put him to sleep with his jacket.

02:03:47.000 Right.

02:03:47.000 I remember that.

02:03:48.000 The beating he gave him before he choked him to sleep.

02:03:51.000 No beating in my back room.

02:03:54.000 The guy was being a prick before the fire.

02:03:56.000 He was a piece of shit.

02:03:57.000 Yeah.

02:03:57.000 He did.

02:03:58.000 What did he do?

02:03:58.000 Oh, yeah.

02:03:59.000 He was calling his fucking room, trying to wake him up, like had his people harassing Henso.

02:04:04.000 He was a dick.

02:04:05.000 Henso went to greet him and he said, Oh, you have eyes like my girlfriend, but they're prettier or some fucking.

02:04:13.000 So right away, Henso's one of those guys that.

02:04:15.000 He can go from a smile to a fucking bo high in 10 seconds.

02:04:19.000 About the fucking.

02:04:20.000 I mean, zero to 100 real quick.

02:04:22.000 Well, and, you know, only if you're a dick.

02:04:25.000 Oh, yeah, 100%.

02:04:25.000 You're not a dick.

02:04:26.000 He's the nicest guy in the world.

02:04:28.000 That position just shows you.

02:04:28.000 Come on, man.

02:04:30.000 If you're allowed to do that.

02:04:31.000 Yeah, this is.

02:04:32.000 But show before that.

02:04:33.000 Watch what he does before.

02:04:35.000 Here it is.

02:04:36.000 Once he gets them back mount, watch this.

02:04:37.000 Boom!

02:04:38.000 Man.

02:04:40.000 I mean, dude, that's a wrap.

02:04:42.000 You can only take.

02:04:43.000 Imagine if that was in MMA.

02:04:45.000 Why?

02:04:46.000 Now, here's the thing.

02:04:48.000 Is that inherently dangerous?

02:04:50.000 Is it that much more dangerous?

02:04:51.000 I mean, what we're doing is already dangerous.

02:04:53.000 Right.

02:04:54.000 And it also is very effective.

02:04:56.000 So, are we removing a very effective technique that would end fights?

02:05:00.000 And if so, are we doing it to protect the fighter?

02:05:02.000 Because if we are, why are we allowing a lot of other stuff?

02:05:05.000 Why are we allowing flying knees?

02:05:07.000 Why are we allowing sidekicks to the knees?

02:05:10.000 Why are we allowing wheel kicks to the head, heels to the head?

02:05:14.000 Smack him in the face again.

02:05:15.000 Yeah.

02:05:17.000 Hey, nice fight.

02:05:22.000 I mean, there's a certain amount of things that we already allow that are so bad for you.

02:05:26.000 It's like, why don't you allow a shot to the back of the head?

02:05:29.000 I need it explained to me like I'm a child.

02:05:32.000 Like, why is it okay to slam your elbow full blast into someone's temple?

02:05:36.000 Yeah, but not this spot.

02:05:38.000 You could drive your elbow down into their eye socket.

02:05:42.000 That's okay.

02:05:43.000 But the back of the head is bad.

02:05:44.000 But also, the back of the head's fine if you.

02:05:47.000 Knock someone out from the back of the head and you didn't mean to, like a head kick.

02:05:51.000 Like, how many head kicks wrap around and hit the back of the head?

02:05:53.000 Right.

02:05:54.000 Wonder Boy, and it's like his UFC debut.

02:05:56.000 He goes over the shoulder, wap, back of the head, out cold.

02:06:00.000 Yeah.

02:06:00.000 That shit always works.

02:06:02.000 The back of the head, brown kicks, that's a lot of times where they land.

02:06:05.000 Discombobulated to getting hit in the back of the head.

02:06:07.000 It is a little different.

02:06:08.000 Yeah.

02:06:09.000 How many times do, like, Ernesto Hoos knock dudes out with back of the head head kicks in kickboxing?

02:06:16.000 A lot.

02:06:17.000 All the time.

02:06:17.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:06:18.000 I think that's how he knocked out Maurice Smith.

02:06:20.000 I think he snuck it around over the shoulder and hit him in the back of the head.

02:06:26.000 I mean, anatomy's going to dictate that.

02:06:29.000 That's what you're supposed to do.

02:06:31.000 So that's legal.

02:06:32.000 No one says that's an illegal blow.

02:06:34.000 My overhands, that's where they hit a lot.

02:06:37.000 Fuck them.

02:06:39.000 I'm facing you.

02:06:40.000 What do you want me to do?

02:06:41.000 This is what is part of the sport, right?

02:06:43.000 No, if that's legal and you get a KO win, if you head kick someone, you land them in the back of the head.

02:06:50.000 That's always happened.

02:06:51.000 Yeah.

02:06:51.000 That's happened a hundred times.

02:06:54.000 I don't know.

02:06:55.000 I mean, it's weird, right?

02:06:56.000 It is.

02:06:56.000 I mean, it's weird because I mean, then we now we're playing with all these different rules and people don't like them, and it's just like, but I mean, you got to draw a line somewhere, I suppose.

02:07:06.000 But see if you can find Ernesto Hoost, uh, KO's Maurice Smith.

02:07:13.000 Less rules shows who's the better fighter at the end of the day.

02:07:18.000 But those, there's some rules that I'm like, okay, but now you're getting an unrealistic.

02:07:24.000 Of a position.

02:07:25.000 Like when someone's in a turtle and you can't knead it there.

02:07:27.000 Yeah, to me, that one should be eliminated right away.

02:07:30.000 You should be able to knead a guy in a headphones.

02:07:31.000 Yeah, watch this.

02:07:32.000 Look at that.

02:07:33.000 Shit, there it is.

02:07:34.000 Right at the back of the head.

02:07:35.000 Yep.

02:07:36.000 Watch that again.

02:07:38.000 Is it in slow motion?

02:07:38.000 Is that what it is?

02:07:39.000 Watch how slick this is.

02:07:41.000 Our Nesta Oost was such a good one.

02:07:43.000 Look how close he is to us.

02:07:44.000 Oh, man.

02:07:44.000 Boom.

02:07:45.000 Crazy.

02:07:45.000 See how close he was?

02:07:47.000 Crazy.

02:07:47.000 It was like Billy Jack.

02:07:48.000 Look at that.

02:07:49.000 Bro.

02:07:50.000 Yep.

02:07:51.000 That's nice.

02:07:52.000 You know, so if that happened in the UFC, everybody would cheer.

02:07:54.000 Yeah.

02:07:55.000 You couldn't say, hey, that's an illegal blow.

02:07:57.000 Right.

02:07:58.000 Even though technically that's the spot where they can constitute a legal blow.

02:08:02.000 Yeah.

02:08:03.000 That's illegal.

02:08:04.000 Yeah.

02:08:04.000 That's illegal.

02:08:05.000 And wheel kicks happen like that all the time.

02:08:07.000 Because it's coming from that angle, from behind.

02:08:07.000 All the time.

02:08:09.000 Whipping around.

02:08:10.000 The guy tries to duck under, hits him right in the back of the head, and no one complains.

02:08:13.000 It's weird.

02:08:13.000 Yeah.

02:08:14.000 No one, the referee never says, stop.

02:08:16.000 No striking the back of the head.

02:08:17.000 Never happens.

02:08:18.000 Yeah.

02:08:19.000 It's only when they're like turned around and they're throwing arm punches.

02:08:19.000 Ever.

02:08:24.000 Yeah, which is the least powerful.

02:08:25.000 Which is less powerful than a full kick to the head.

02:08:28.000 But the reality is, if you were in that position and the guy could throw elbows to the back of the head, that would be a wrap.

02:08:35.000 In that same position where you're on a guy's back and you're doing this kind of shit, instead, if you're just back of the head, boom, boom, like Enzo just did.

02:08:44.000 Hey, man, what about headbutts?

02:08:44.000 Right.

02:08:46.000 Right.

02:08:47.000 Headbutts, not even standing up.

02:08:49.000 Right.

02:08:50.000 Like when I'm in a clinch and I'm buried in.

02:08:52.000 It's good for sure, guys.

02:08:53.000 I fucking love it.

02:08:53.000 Yeah.

02:08:54.000 I don't know, Dad.

02:08:55.000 I'm up in your head all day.

02:08:56.000 Bro, Mark Coleman.

02:08:58.000 Mark Coleman would get in your guard and headbutt the fuck out of you.

02:09:02.000 And the only guy to solve that puzzle was Maurice Smith.

02:09:06.000 Well, Maurice Smith was the first guy to solve that puzzle.

02:09:08.000 Dragged him out.

02:09:09.000 Cardio.

02:09:10.000 Cardio and defense off his back.

02:09:12.000 Good butterfly guard.

02:09:13.000 Mark Kerr murdered Fabio Gergel with headbuts, too.

02:09:16.000 Bro, headbuts when you were on top is brutal.

02:09:19.000 Yeah, I was in that Maurice Smith fight.

02:09:21.000 That was the first fight I ever went to.

02:09:22.000 Really?

02:09:22.000 The UFC fight I ever went to was in Birmingham, Alabama.

02:09:25.000 Really?

02:09:25.000 I was there, yep.

02:09:26.000 Wow.

02:09:27.000 Bro, that was a huge upset.

02:09:28.000 Yeah, I know.

02:09:29.000 Big time.

02:09:29.000 I was nervous.

02:09:31.000 I love Maurice Smith.

02:09:33.000 I was nervous.

02:09:34.000 I was in the crowd rooting for Maurice Smith for obvious reasons.

02:09:36.000 Well, I was friends.

02:09:39.000 But I was the only one there rooting for Maurice Smith, yeah.

02:09:42.000 I was friends with Maurice.

02:09:44.000 Maurice came over to my house, worked out with him.

02:09:46.000 I was cool with Maurice, man.

02:09:47.000 Nice guy.

02:09:47.000 So it was like, I was sad.

02:09:49.000 I was like, oh my God, Maurice is going to fight Mark Coleman.

02:09:51.000 You're going to get killed.

02:09:52.000 I was like, he's 260 pounds.

02:09:53.000 He's a wrestler.

02:09:54.000 He takes everybody down.

02:09:55.000 And then when.

02:09:56.000 Maurice was leg kicking them.

02:09:58.000 He said, Come on, Mark, ground me and pound me.

02:09:59.000 WAP!

02:10:00.000 Ground me and pound me.

02:10:01.000 WAP!

02:10:02.000 He was talking to him while he was doing it.

02:10:04.000 And then when Mark would move towards me, move away.

02:10:06.000 Yes, yeah.

02:10:07.000 Got right back in.

02:10:08.000 Those leg kicks were brutal, too.

02:10:10.000 Maurice was the first guy to bring, like, world class leg kicks to the UFC.

02:10:14.000 Yeah.

02:10:15.000 World class.

02:10:16.000 Did the Lions then guide you?

02:10:17.000 Actually, Pedro Hizo.

02:10:19.000 Yeah, Pedro Hizo.

02:10:20.000 Yeah.

02:10:21.000 He had sick leg kicks.

02:10:21.000 Paul Varlins.

02:10:23.000 What's the Lions?

02:10:24.000 Pete.

02:10:25.000 Pete Zell?

02:10:26.000 I mean, so Pete Williams.

02:10:28.000 Pete Williams.

02:10:29.000 Pete Williams knocked him out.

02:10:30.000 He knocked him out with a head kick.

02:10:32.000 He knocked him out first.

02:10:33.000 I think Maurice beat him first.

02:10:33.000 Yeah.

02:10:36.000 But Maurice beat him by decision, right?

02:10:38.000 Wasn't it a five round decision?

02:10:39.000 I think it was a decision.

02:10:40.000 I think it was a five round.

02:10:41.000 He just beat him up.

02:10:41.000 Pete Williams caught him with a kick.

02:10:43.000 Pete Williams head kicked with shoes on.

02:10:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:10:45.000 Yeah.

02:10:45.000 Put shoes on.

02:10:46.000 The good old days.

02:10:47.000 That's right.

02:10:48.000 He had to get his shoes on, yeah.

02:10:49.000 Bro, what a crazy sport, man.

02:10:51.000 I remember one of the first fights that I saw was this Japanese dude and Valigi.

02:10:58.000 And they were grabbing each other's underwear.

02:11:01.000 Like, you could hold up.

02:11:02.000 They were giving him a wedgie.

02:11:03.000 I think the dude he was fighting, like, was literally grabbing his shorts and, like, giving him a massive wedgie during the fight.

02:11:09.000 Yeah.

02:11:10.000 Totally legal.

02:11:11.000 It was totally legal.

02:11:12.000 In the UFC or.

02:11:13.000 It was bare knuckle back then, too.

02:11:15.000 The first fight I worked was bare knuckle.

02:11:16.000 Yeah.

02:11:17.000 That was 97.

02:11:17.000 I remember that.

02:11:18.000 Vitor was the only guy that had gloves and wore those gloves.

02:11:21.000 Was Vitor the first guy or Tank the first guy to wear gloves?

02:11:23.000 Yeah, Tank was one of the first guys, for sure.

02:11:25.000 Tank might have been the first guy.

02:11:27.000 I believe he was the first guy.

02:11:28.000 And then Vitor wore them, too.

02:11:30.000 Vitor was, you know.

02:11:32.000 Bro, at 19 years old, when Vitor first fought in the UFC, he was a tornado.

02:11:39.000 He just ran a Trey Telligman fight.

02:11:41.000 Holy shit, dude.

02:11:42.000 I mean, definitely.

02:11:43.000 Free asada on that motherfucker.

02:11:45.000 100.

02:11:46.000 He looked like the fucking Hulk.

02:11:48.000 Well, not yet, he didn't.

02:11:49.000 When he first fought in the UFC, he only weighed 200 pounds.

02:11:52.000 When he fought Scott Perrozzo, when he fought Trey Teligman, he weighed 200 pounds.

02:11:52.000 He was so fat.

02:11:57.000 Then he gained tons of weight and fought Randy.

02:12:00.000 And when he fought Randy, he was like 240.

02:12:02.000 And that messed him up, too.

02:12:03.000 Oh, he was too big.

02:12:04.000 Well, that was.

02:12:05.000 Randy got cut in that one, remember?

02:12:08.000 No, that was a different one.

02:12:09.000 That was in the UFC later on for the Light Heavy title.

02:12:11.000 Yeah, he cut his eyeballs off.

02:12:13.000 So this is Trey Teligman.

02:12:14.000 Yeah.

02:12:15.000 And Trey Teligman, if you're watching this, has lost his check in a car accident when he was a baby.

02:12:22.000 Yeah, crazy.

02:12:22.000 That's crazy.

02:12:24.000 He lost his check.

02:12:25.000 Oh, this is Brad Kohler.

02:12:26.000 Yeah.

02:12:27.000 This is a different fight.

02:12:28.000 What is going on here?

02:12:31.000 Japan 1997.

02:12:33.000 Oh, yeah.

02:12:35.000 That's not Japan 97.

02:12:36.000 It's UFC 12, actually.

02:12:38.000 Japan 97 was when Frank Shamrock fought Kevin Jackson.

02:12:42.000 Remember when he armored him?

02:12:43.000 Armored him.

02:12:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:12:45.000 That was pretty crazy.

02:12:46.000 Yeah.

02:12:47.000 This is a different card.

02:12:48.000 It's Ultimate Japan 97.

02:12:50.000 UFC 12 is the fight.

02:12:54.000 I was just going off 97.

02:12:55.000 You remembered a number?

02:12:56.000 Yeah.

02:12:57.000 Randy looks older there than he does now.

02:13:00.000 Peptides.

02:13:02.000 It wasn't Japan, though.

02:13:05.000 I just heard you say something about Japan in 1997.

02:13:08.000 That's all I typed in.

02:13:10.000 No.

02:13:11.000 No, there's a Japanese fighter, is what I said.

02:13:13.000 He fought Beliji, Valid Ishmael.

02:13:16.000 It was either UFC 12 or UFC 13.

02:13:19.000 Walid Ishmael UFC.

02:13:22.000 If you find that, you'll find it.

02:13:23.000 And the dude was giving him a super wedgie.

02:13:26.000 It was because you were totally allowed to grab shorts.

02:13:30.000 You could grab shorts.

02:13:31.000 You could punch guys in the nuts.

02:13:32.000 The acne punching Joe Son in his balls.

02:13:34.000 Yeah.

02:13:35.000 Remember that?

02:13:36.000 Dude, what about Gary Goodrich in the crucifix?

02:13:38.000 Oh, yeah.

02:13:39.000 Paul Herrera.

02:13:39.000 Here it is.

02:13:40.000 So here it is.

02:13:40.000 Look what the dude's done to Luigi's pants.

02:13:43.000 Luigi's pants.

02:13:44.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:13:44.000 All the way up the crack of his ass.

02:13:46.000 Because the dude had a hold of his shorts earlier in the fight.

02:13:50.000 I'd rather that be Mackenzie Dern, he's giving the wedgie to him.

02:13:54.000 But, yeah, explain this, dude.

02:13:56.000 Here it is.

02:13:57.000 Bro.

02:13:58.000 Bro.

02:14:00.000 Oh, my God.

02:14:01.000 So, this was my first UFC that I worked.

02:14:03.000 Okay, so look, the Japanese guy has the gloves on as well.

02:14:06.000 So, Vitor had them on, but Valigi bare knuckle.

02:14:09.000 Look, you're allowed to grab it back then.

02:14:11.000 The Japanese guy had gloves.

02:14:11.000 Look at this.

02:14:13.000 Valigi's bare knuckle.

02:14:15.000 That's hilarious.

02:14:16.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:14:17.000 He's really grabbing his gloves.

02:14:18.000 Maybe it's up there grabbing his nuts.

02:14:19.000 I think you could grab nuts.

02:14:21.000 It's got to be so uncomfortable.

02:14:22.000 And look how he's grabbing a fence.

02:14:23.000 Yeah.

02:14:24.000 Full on grabbing the fence.

02:14:26.000 And Big John's trying to pry his hands away and he just grabs them again.

02:14:29.000 He just don't even let go.

02:14:30.000 At least back then, I guess you couldn't grab the fence, so there was a rule.

02:14:34.000 He's grabbing it again.

02:14:35.000 Look at the grab.

02:14:36.000 Look at the grab.

02:14:37.000 That's the most blatant French grabbing of all time.

02:14:40.000 I see ugly right there.

02:14:42.000 Bro, Big John, get on it.

02:14:44.000 John, John, slap his hands away, John.

02:14:46.000 Do something.

02:14:47.000 John, John, he's grabbing the fence.

02:14:50.000 It was like a suggestion back then.

02:14:53.000 It was not even a rule.

02:14:54.000 He was allowed to grab the fence.

02:14:55.000 I think he knocked his hands away.

02:14:57.000 He was saying, don't grab the fence.

02:14:59.000 Yeah.

02:14:59.000 But only like a little.

02:15:01.000 He's kind of not that enthusiastic about enforcing it.

02:15:03.000 And it was like, as he was letting go already, he was like slapping his hand away.

02:15:07.000 Yeah, that was the first UFC I worked.

02:15:10.000 The rules back then were so weird.

02:15:12.000 Shoes, wrestling shoes.

02:15:13.000 It's weird how you, you know, like wrestling shoes would change everything.

02:15:17.000 You get so much more grip on the cage, so much more ability to move.

02:15:21.000 Yeah.

02:15:22.000 But the wrestlers would love it, but also.

02:15:24.000 Heel hook blocks.

02:15:25.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:15:25.000 Yeah, that would be a problem.

02:15:27.000 Oh, heel hooks would be a real problem.

02:15:28.000 When I first started training, I remember with Kukuk back in the day, he used to wear wrestling sneakers and stuff.

02:15:34.000 And I remember being like, you know, I wanted as much for the street as possible.

02:15:38.000 I remember that was my mentality.

02:15:39.000 So I'd wear the wrestling sneakers.

02:15:41.000 I'm like, yo, fuck this.

02:15:42.000 Guys are grabbing your foot.

02:15:44.000 I'm like, yo, fuck that.

02:15:45.000 Fucks everything.

02:15:46.000 And also, like, lose your whole setting up arm bars and stuff.

02:15:48.000 Like, when you try to grab the foot and throw it over it, now you've got a grip on something that's like textile.

02:15:54.000 Like, you could hold on to that motherfucker.

02:15:56.000 A foot is hard to hold on to.

02:15:59.000 They get sweaty and shit.

02:16:00.000 They're all slippery.

02:16:01.000 Nah, no good.

02:16:03.000 Yeah, when I hear Jen's pulver, I was like, he's going to wear shoes?

02:16:06.000 Oh, word.

02:16:08.000 That was, hey, Jamie, can you find Dean Thomas's rolling knee bar on Jen's?

02:16:13.000 Pulver, oh, I bet they don't even have that.

02:16:16.000 I think Jamie could find that.

02:16:17.000 Oh, it has to be online.

02:16:19.000 Everything's online.

02:16:20.000 Those fights, those old fights, I mean, those are history.

02:16:22.000 I'm a shoot-o fighter, you know.

02:16:24.000 I remember seeing that interview because I studied it because I was going to fight you.

02:16:28.000 Oh, and I'm like, ah, try that knee bar on me, motherfucker.

02:16:32.000 Jens Pulver had some laser beam punches back in the day.

02:16:35.000 I know.

02:16:35.000 I remember when he knocked out John Lewis.

02:16:37.000 Oh, I was like, I got to fight this guy.

02:16:38.000 Sure, that was a bad one.

02:16:40.000 Jens Pulver, you got him in his prime, too.

02:16:42.000 Yeah, but I did not want that guy punching me.

02:16:45.000 Yeah, you can't be wearing shoes.

02:16:47.000 It's just.

02:16:48.000 Rolling knee ball.

02:16:48.000 Yeah.

02:16:49.000 It's just too much.

02:16:51.000 Too much of an advantage.

02:16:52.000 That was an old school one, too.

02:16:53.000 You did it almost like you're going to give your back to him and fucking roll.

02:16:56.000 Yeah, roll under here.

02:16:57.000 I think you should let him.

02:16:58.000 Look at this.

02:16:59.000 Here it is.

02:17:00.000 Look at this.

02:17:00.000 Who is that fucking youngster?

02:17:01.000 Look how lean.

02:17:03.000 Oh, man.

02:17:04.000 Inside heel hook and shoes.

02:17:05.000 Inside heel hook with shoes on.

02:17:07.000 That's a wrap.

02:17:08.000 That's the worst.

02:17:08.000 He has no way to do it.

02:17:09.000 Tap, tap, tap.

02:17:10.000 You should have tapped a long time ago.

02:17:11.000 Thomas.

02:17:12.000 Oh, my God.

02:17:13.000 Thomas.

02:17:13.000 That must have hurt.

02:17:14.000 What did it feel like?

02:17:15.000 Oh, I heard all the pop.

02:17:15.000 Did you feel a pop?

02:17:19.000 How bad was the injury?

02:17:20.000 Oh, I don't know.

02:17:21.000 I never called him afterwards, but.

02:17:23.000 Oh, it had to be real bad, dude.

02:17:25.000 It had to be real bad.

02:17:27.000 With the shoes and everything?

02:17:28.000 Like, my God.

02:17:29.000 Look at that.

02:17:30.000 Look how you rolled into that.

02:17:31.000 That's so pretty.

02:17:32.000 Look at you.

02:17:32.000 Look at you right into the inside.

02:17:35.000 He knows he fucks Bill.

02:17:35.000 Oh, my God.

02:17:38.000 Oh, God.

02:17:40.000 I heard it pop.

02:17:41.000 You mean Dean Thomas.

02:17:43.000 Yeah, I heard that pop a few times.

02:17:44.000 That's nice.

02:17:45.000 That's awesome, Dean.

02:17:46.000 How good does that feel?

02:17:47.000 It feels good.

02:17:50.000 I've watched myself get knocked out by BJ Pen over and over and over for years.

02:17:53.000 So, like, about time I get one.

02:17:55.000 They're like, come on.

02:17:55.000 Those heel hook ones are the ones that you, while you're watching them, you're grabbing them.

02:17:59.000 You're already, you're like, I hate them.

02:17:59.000 Yeah, you know.

02:18:03.000 I hate them with a passion.

02:18:04.000 Yes.

02:18:05.000 Because they ruin your whole career.

02:18:06.000 Hey, did you ever see a Kimura dislocate?

02:18:09.000 Oh, yeah.

02:18:10.000 Well, I saw.

02:18:10.000 That's just ugly, man.

02:18:12.000 It's like, you almost want to push it back in.

02:18:13.000 You're like, oh, Frank Neer.

02:18:15.000 That's fucked, right?

02:18:16.000 Neerville Guerra?

02:18:17.000 Oh, dude.

02:18:19.000 Oh, man.

02:18:20.000 Straight jujitsu tournament, I'd snap the dude's humorous.

02:18:22.000 Just.

02:18:23.000 Like straight up Keelock.

02:18:24.000 Because he didn't tap.

02:18:25.000 My coach is yelling, like, protect your fighter.

02:18:29.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:18:29.000 God, that's horrible.

02:18:30.000 And you don't recover fully from that.

02:18:32.000 He had to get surgery.

02:18:33.000 Sound like a pool stick snapping.

02:18:37.000 I'll never forget the sound of Wideman.

02:18:39.000 Oh, my God.

02:18:41.000 Oh, my God.

02:18:42.000 That's like a chalkboard.

02:18:43.000 Never forget that sound.

02:18:44.000 I remember that.

02:18:46.000 That one was so loud.

02:18:47.000 Did you ride a hog?

02:18:48.000 I wasn't in the corner, but that was so loud.

02:18:50.000 What are the chances Anderson does it to.

02:18:54.000 You know, he does it to Anderson and then it fucking happens to him, too.

02:18:58.000 It's only happened to four guys in the UFC.

02:19:00.000 It's scary.

02:19:02.000 Connor's one.

02:19:03.000 Corey Hill's the first one.

02:19:04.000 I remember the Corey Hill one because the referee didn't see it.

02:19:06.000 And I put my headphones on.

02:19:08.000 I'm screaming, Stop the fight!

02:19:10.000 He passed away.

02:19:10.000 Stop the fight!

02:19:11.000 Stop the fight.

02:19:12.000 Did he?

02:19:12.000 Yeah.

02:19:13.000 Yeah.

02:19:14.000 Yeah.

02:19:14.000 Young.

02:19:15.000 Was it related to that?

02:19:16.000 No, I think he has some kind of disease.

02:19:18.000 Some kind of like something.

02:19:19.000 Bro, a break of a bone is a traumatic injury.

02:19:22.000 Like, you have to understand, there's such a difference between breaking your hand, which I think we've all done.

02:19:27.000 I broke my arm when I was a little kid.

02:19:29.000 Breaking your shin in half like that, it's such a traumatic thing.

02:19:34.000 Stepping down on it and it just gets you.

02:19:35.000 How about Frank Muir?

02:19:36.000 Broke his femur in a car accident.

02:19:39.000 A guy T boned him on a motorcycle, snapped his thigh bone.

02:19:45.000 Well, Frank wasn't the same for years.

02:19:46.000 It took years for him to come back to full form again.

02:19:49.000 That's rough, man.

02:19:50.000 Rough.

02:19:52.000 So, this is the other question about Connor.

02:19:54.000 How much can he use that left leg?

02:19:57.000 His left leg snapped in half, okay?

02:19:59.000 And I see him kicking the bag, and I see him doing all these things, and that's great.

02:20:04.000 And I hope it's 100%.

02:20:06.000 But I mean.

02:20:07.000 I seen Chris Wyman kicking Hector Lombard.

02:20:10.000 They had a weird thing where I think it's only body punches and leg kicks.

02:20:16.000 You see what I'm talking about?

02:20:17.000 Oh, that jiu-jitsu thing.

02:20:18.000 Yeah, that jiu-jitsu thing.

02:20:19.000 But it wasn't jiu-jitsu.

02:20:20.000 But it is.

02:20:21.000 They do jiu-jitsu too.

02:20:21.000 Did they?

02:20:22.000 Yeah.

02:20:23.000 Yeah, they're allowed to leg kick and body punch.

02:20:25.000 It was the oddest thing.

02:20:26.000 It's the weirdest thing.

02:20:27.000 I just saw Chris just kicking him and his body.

02:20:29.000 And Hector was like punching him in the neck.

02:20:32.000 I'm like, what the fuck kind of rules is this?

02:20:35.000 It's crazy.

02:20:36.000 I didn't know what I was watching.

02:20:37.000 Those ones where the dudes stand next to each other and just leg kick each other into submission.

02:20:42.000 Oh, yeah.

02:20:43.000 That shit's pretty nasty.

02:20:44.000 Those are so, that's so crazy.

02:20:46.000 Who does that?

02:20:48.000 I don't know, man, but there's a lot of those videos.

02:20:49.000 It's almost as dumb as slap shit.

02:20:52.000 Almost.

02:20:53.000 I mean, kind of almost, because, like, you could really ruin your leg.

02:20:56.000 Come on, man.

02:20:57.000 You don't understand.

02:20:57.000 Like, Pedro Hizo, like, one of those kind of guys.

02:21:00.000 Could you imagine, like, doing that with Pedro Hizo?

02:21:01.000 Look at the damage Hizo did to Randleman's leg.

02:21:04.000 That shit had a different vein pattern.

02:21:06.000 Randy Couture.

02:21:07.000 When he got done with him.

02:21:08.000 Randy Couture, it was like six months for him to recover.

02:21:11.000 Two fights with him earlier this year in an MMA fight.

02:21:14.000 Goddamn, man.

02:21:15.000 In a heavyweight fight.

02:21:16.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:21:18.000 Oh, we're going out to eat later, man.

02:21:20.000 You're gonna make me sick.

02:21:22.000 It's horrible.

02:21:23.000 I hate those things, man.

02:21:25.000 And I know how hard Chris kicks.

02:21:27.000 Mongo was like backstage, he was killing the pads.

02:21:30.000 It was hard to hold them.

02:21:31.000 That's such a great impression, man.

02:21:34.000 And then he went out there and Jesus.

02:21:37.000 Rogan's making me feel bad for being 68.

02:21:39.000 Oh, yeah, he's telling me.

02:21:42.000 He's so funny.

02:21:42.000 And then he was asking about a peptide.

02:21:44.000 I have to text him later.

02:21:45.000 He's the best.

02:21:47.000 You two together, I swear to God, should be a show.

02:21:50.000 Come on.

02:21:50.000 It should be a show.

02:21:51.000 Just fucking follow him around.

02:21:52.000 Yeah, just follow you guys around, follow you to the pizza place.

02:21:55.000 I seen him yesterday.

02:21:56.000 It'd be a great fucking show.

02:21:57.000 It'd be a great fucking show.

02:21:58.000 Kidding me?

02:21:59.000 It really would.

02:22:00.000 You get one of them keeping up with Kardashians people who know how to do a reality show, film the two of you guys together, hanging out, drinking coffee, talking shit, training fighters.

02:22:08.000 Oh, it valued me.

02:22:09.000 Epic.

02:22:09.000 Yeah.

02:22:10.000 Epic.

02:22:11.000 I mean, don't wait too long.

02:22:12.000 He's getting older.

02:22:13.000 And also, think about how many guys you've worked with, like super high level guys like Aljo and Mirab and, you know, just being with them and Wideman, being with them at the UFCs.

02:22:24.000 Yeah, we have a great show.

02:22:26.000 Kid me.

02:22:27.000 Who's best to have mics on in the corner?

02:22:29.000 No, those two.

02:22:30.000 Come on.

02:22:30.000 You guys are best.

02:22:32.000 It's so funny.

02:22:33.000 I like that comedians are making comedies again.

02:22:38.000 I'm looking at Harlan.

02:22:38.000 This is Harlan Williams.

02:22:39.000 Yeah, Harlan Williams.

02:22:41.000 He put a Gordon in his fucking underwear.

02:22:43.000 I love that guy.

02:22:44.000 I think that guy's got legs.

02:22:45.000 With the fake legs.

02:22:46.000 He's so funny.

02:22:47.000 His movie, you know, I love movies.

02:22:49.000 His movie, Wingman, is funny.

02:22:52.000 It's funny.

02:22:52.000 It's good movies.

02:22:53.000 He's funny in everything he does.

02:22:54.000 Yeah, it's.

02:22:56.000 I miss those.

02:22:57.000 Him and Nasty Nate.

02:22:58.000 Yeah.

02:22:59.000 You know what it is?

02:22:59.000 Half bait.

02:23:00.000 These comedians are now funding it themselves, like Theo Vaughn and David Spade did Bus Boys.

02:23:05.000 Yes.

02:23:06.000 Tom Segura is doing a bunch of stuff.

02:23:08.000 Theo and David Spade did one together.

02:23:10.000 Theo's real life Joe Dirt, so that's.

02:23:12.000 You know, I like that they're just doing it where they don't have to get okay.

02:23:16.000 Exactly.

02:23:17.000 By anybody.

02:23:18.000 And the other one, I keep.

02:23:18.000 Yeah.

02:23:19.000 I always forget how to.

02:23:20.000 And nobody's telling them what to do.

02:23:22.000 How to fucking be in a cult.

02:23:24.000 How to start a cult.

02:23:25.000 How to start a cult.

02:23:26.000 With the Greek guy, the heavy sec Greek guy.

02:23:29.000 Is that a Stavros?

02:23:31.000 That's a funny one.

02:23:31.000 Yeah.

02:23:33.000 Dude.

02:23:34.000 That one made me fucking laugh.

02:23:35.000 Stavros is very funny.

02:23:36.000 He's from Baltimore, and he does a Baltimore Ravens fan after every win or loss during the season.

02:23:42.000 Like, you have to fucking see it because it's fucking hilarious.

02:23:45.000 Very funny dude.

02:23:45.000 Yeah, man.

02:23:47.000 I like that.

02:23:47.000 It's a good time for comedy because it's like pushback.

02:23:50.000 You know, when there's pushback, then people get excited when someone doesn't give into it and they make their own shit.

02:23:56.000 But if you want to try to make a comedy movie with a studio, you have to deal with so many people telling you what you can and can't say.

02:24:02.000 You're way better off just doing it on your own.

02:24:04.000 Like, they don't really know what funny is.

02:24:05.000 They're trying to protect their job.

02:24:06.000 They have a Mercedes fan.

02:24:07.000 Man, they were cranking them out for a while there, like Talladega Knights.

02:24:11.000 Yeah, but then.

02:24:12.000 You know what happened?

02:24:13.000 The fucking internet happened.

02:24:14.000 People started complaining in real life.

02:24:17.000 Like, you know, it started, these morons online started affecting the way people view comedy.

02:24:22.000 So ridiculous.

02:24:24.000 Meanwhile, it didn't affect the way we view violence, which is crazy.

02:24:27.000 Like, you could have a super hyper violent movie and nobody has a problem with it.

02:24:30.000 I'm getting right now.

02:24:31.000 It's the dumbest shit of all time.

02:24:33.000 But if you have some crazy.

02:24:34.000 Like, if you tried to make a movie like Super Bad, it's fucking hilarious.

02:24:41.000 To try to make that today, couldn't make it.

02:24:43.000 You couldn't make it.

02:24:44.000 Or Tropic Thunder.

02:24:45.000 You gotta make Tropic Thunder.

02:24:47.000 Make it.

02:24:48.000 Fucking Robert Downey Jr., straight and blackface.

02:24:51.000 Straight and blackface.

02:24:52.000 And then Ben Stiller, full retard.

02:24:54.000 Come on.

02:24:55.000 I asked him, I said, Robert Downey Jr., I said, do you think you could make that movie today?

02:24:59.000 He goes, oh, you could make it.

02:25:04.000 Most of the 80s comedies about guys trying to get laid.

02:25:11.000 The premise alone is not going to make it.

02:25:13.000 You know what I mean?

02:25:14.000 It's funny, man.

02:25:15.000 It's like.

02:25:16.000 We'll allow the most hyper violent movies and celebrate them.

02:25:19.000 Oh, this is awesome.

02:25:20.000 Like, I just watched Collateral again the other day.

02:25:23.000 Oh, what a fucking love.

02:25:24.000 That's an awesome movie.

02:25:25.000 We watched the scene in one of the episodes we did.

02:25:28.000 We watched that scene where he shoots those guys in the alley.

02:25:29.000 In the alley.

02:25:30.000 And I got so into it, I go, I need to watch that movie again.

02:25:32.000 Fuck.

02:25:33.000 Yeah, sick movie.

02:25:34.000 But hyper violent.

02:25:36.000 And a movie that everybody says is a wonderful movie.

02:25:38.000 Yeah, really good.

02:25:39.000 But comedy.

02:25:39.000 Really enjoyed it.

02:25:40.000 Let's make you laugh.

02:25:42.000 Yeah.

02:25:42.000 But doesn't it like, isn't it like spoilers?

02:25:44.000 Like, I don't want to spoil it, but like, doesn't Jamie Foxx kill him or something at the end?

02:25:49.000 Well, isn't it kind of cheesy?

02:25:50.000 He dies.

02:25:51.000 Well, I mean, he dies somehow, but isn't it kind of unbelievable that he kills the master assassin, the taxi driver?

02:25:56.000 I think he wanted to die.

02:25:57.000 I think when you kill a bunch of people over a long period of time.

02:26:00.000 Oh, it's one of those?

02:26:01.000 It's deeper than that?

02:26:01.000 I didn't see.

02:26:02.000 You know it's supposed to be Russell Crowe and Adam Sandler in that movie?

02:26:05.000 Whoa.

02:26:06.000 Originally.

02:26:06.000 Are you serious?

02:26:07.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

02:26:08.000 That's interesting.

02:26:09.000 They should redo it.

02:26:10.000 Yeah, right.

02:26:11.000 That's interesting.

02:26:13.000 I'll tell you what, Tom Cruise was good.

02:26:15.000 Phenomenal.

02:26:16.000 Well, he's pretty much good in there.

02:26:17.000 Dude, they say they use that clip of him in that alley for training, like CIA motherfuckers.

02:26:22.000 Because it was sat clean.

02:26:23.000 Do you know the scene?

02:26:24.000 No.

02:26:25.000 Oh, one of my favorite scenes in any movie.

02:26:26.000 Jamie, pull it up.

02:26:28.000 One of my favorite scenes in any movie.

02:26:30.000 Two idiots.

02:26:31.000 I love a good tactical draw.

02:26:33.000 Because I love a guy who practices.

02:26:36.000 It's underrated.

02:26:37.000 It's a fucking live, die, repeat.

02:26:40.000 Yes, the Tom Cruise one.

02:26:42.000 It might have been called something else.

02:26:43.000 Edge of Tomorrow.

02:26:44.000 What is it?

02:26:45.000 Edge of Tomorrow.

02:26:46.000 Yes.

02:26:47.000 Is that the space flight?

02:26:48.000 It was really good.

02:26:49.000 It kept coming back, coming back.

02:26:50.000 This is a scene.

02:26:51.000 So Jamie Foxx is strapped to the car.

02:26:54.000 He's zip tied him to the steering wheel and took the keys.

02:26:57.000 Wow.

02:26:59.000 But you can't have a bunch of guys trying to get laid.

02:26:59.000 That's fine.

02:27:01.000 That's unrealistic.

02:27:04.000 You're sending a bad message.

02:27:07.000 Spring break.

02:27:09.000 I never thought of it that way, actually.

02:27:10.000 It's ridiculous.

02:27:12.000 The comedians' rebuttal to it.

02:27:15.000 You know, to not being able to make the movies they want to make.

02:27:17.000 Well, it's only empowered the clubs.

02:27:20.000 Like, clubs are packed.

02:27:21.000 Everybody wants to.

02:27:21.000 Yeah.

02:27:23.000 Because you go to the mothership, you're going to hear some wild shit.

02:27:24.000 Yeah.

02:27:25.000 They don't.

02:27:25.000 People want to laugh.

02:27:26.000 Nobody.

02:27:27.000 It doesn't mean you mean what you're saying.

02:27:29.000 Right, right, right.

02:27:31.000 It's a joke.

02:27:32.000 Bob Marley didn't really shoot the sheriff.

02:27:34.000 Right.

02:27:35.000 Okay?

02:27:35.000 It's like, what are you doing is fucking around.

02:27:37.000 We all know.

02:27:38.000 We've always been talking shit.

02:27:39.000 Talking shit has been a natural part of humans.

02:27:42.000 We talk shit, we joke around.

02:27:44.000 And the idea that that's supposed to be up to someone's standards or someone else's parameters of what you can and can't talk, fuck you.

02:27:52.000 Fuck you.

02:27:53.000 Just don't go.

02:27:54.000 Just don't go watch it.

02:27:55.000 Tom Brady Roos kind of brought it back.

02:27:58.000 In a big way.

02:27:59.000 Yeah, in a big way.

02:28:00.000 Yeah, the Tom Brady Roos, I think, cracked the egg because that thing got like 55 million views on Netflix alone.

02:28:05.000 Like, within the First week.

02:28:06.000 Joe, can I put some water, please?

02:28:08.000 Are people still getting canceled now?

02:28:09.000 I think it's kind of past.

02:28:10.000 I think it doesn't work.

02:28:12.000 You can't because everybody can just put your own stuff on.

02:28:15.000 Yeah.

02:28:16.000 You can just do your own stuff.

02:28:17.000 Well, it's also when people get canceled, people just flock to those people now.

02:28:20.000 It makes them more popular.

02:28:22.000 Yeah.

02:28:22.000 Look at Kanye.

02:28:23.000 Kanye is selling out the biggest fucking places in the world doing pop up shows.

02:28:27.000 Yeah.

02:28:28.000 He's doing arena pop up shows.

02:28:30.000 Yeah.

02:28:30.000 He just did one in Miami a couple weeks ago.

02:28:32.000 My son went to it.

02:28:33.000 He's doing one this weekend in San Antonio.

02:28:35.000 Really?

02:28:36.000 Just a pop up show.

02:28:37.000 Tony Hinchcliffe just went to the one in Tampa.

02:28:38.000 He said it was insane.

02:28:39.000 Yeah.

02:28:40.000 This is the greatest show he's ever seen in his life.

02:28:42.000 He's on top of a world.

02:28:43.000 He's standing on top of a globe.

02:28:45.000 Yeah.

02:28:46.000 And like it's spinning while he's up there doing two and a half hours of bangers.

02:28:51.000 Yeah.

02:28:51.000 Like you realize, Tony goes, you realize how many hits this guy has.

02:28:54.000 Who is he?

02:28:55.000 Kanye Motherfucker.

02:28:56.000 Oh, Kanye.

02:28:57.000 Otherwise known as Ye.

02:28:58.000 Yeah.

02:28:59.000 Yeezy.

02:28:59.000 That's right.

02:29:00.000 Yeah, no one wants to do a versus battle against Kanye.

02:29:03.000 He's going to eat you up.

02:29:04.000 He's so prolific.

02:29:05.000 It's like, Tony said that every aspect of the show he produced.

02:29:05.000 Yeah.

02:29:10.000 So every sound has like a purpose, every lighting effect.

02:29:14.000 It's all coordinated.

02:29:15.000 He said it's amazing.

02:29:17.000 He's like a genius.

02:29:18.000 He's a genius.

02:29:19.000 Crazy as fucking a shithouse rat.

02:29:19.000 Legit.

02:29:22.000 But that's how you have to do it.

02:29:23.000 He's out there.

02:29:24.000 I mean, but most creative people.

02:29:26.000 You know, you're coming from a different.

02:29:26.000 100%.

02:29:28.000 You don't get that good by being normal.

02:29:31.000 Like, he's too good.

02:29:31.000 Right.

02:29:32.000 But I mean, normal is overrated.

02:29:34.000 The guy comes back from wearing a diamond encrusted swastika to selling out the biggest arenas in the world.

02:29:42.000 He has a song called Heil Hitler.

02:29:44.000 A year later, he's selling out the biggest arenas in the world, like instantaneously.

02:29:49.000 Do you know?

02:29:50.000 Wild out.

02:29:51.000 He's the GOAT.

02:29:52.000 Like, no one's even close.

02:29:53.000 He's like one of the greatest performers of all time.

02:29:55.000 Yeah.

02:29:56.000 Like, no one's even close.

02:29:57.000 Like, with the stuff that he does, like, you can compare it to his contemporaries.

02:30:00.000 Like, he's, I don't know.

02:30:01.000 Yeah, he's so far ahead of everybody else.

02:30:04.000 Prince was like that, too.

02:30:04.000 Out there.

02:30:06.000 It's all the hits he had and all the hits he's written for people.

02:30:09.000 Yeah, man.

02:30:10.000 When that Freddie Gray shit happened in Baltimore, he called the city and wanted to do, like, a benefit concert or whatever.

02:30:17.000 And I was able to go to it.

02:30:19.000 And at one point on the stage, he's doing all these songs and he goes, God damn, I forgot all the good shit.

02:30:27.000 And then he kept going.

02:30:28.000 But the best story was on Soundcheck, like he tunes everything's got to be the way he wants it.

02:30:35.000 And Jay-Z, Beyonce, and somebody else, I don't know who the third person was, but they were going to come and be part of it.

02:30:45.000 So they asked him if he could come.

02:30:46.000 He's like, yeah, sure.

02:30:47.000 So when they came, they started to go on stage for Soundcheck.

02:30:51.000 And a friend of mine at the building said, Prince, like, Whoa, what are you doing up on the fucking stage?

02:30:57.000 And they're like, oh, you know, we want to get our shit straight.

02:30:59.000 And he goes, no, this is my shit.

02:31:01.000 You want to come and be a part of it?

02:31:02.000 Fine.

02:31:03.000 If not, get the fuck off the stage.

02:31:05.000 And they walked and left and got out of there.

02:31:05.000 Whoa.

02:31:08.000 Well, you got to be careful with other stars because they do like the metal.

02:31:12.000 Yeah.

02:31:12.000 I went like this.

02:31:13.000 Yeah, no.

02:31:14.000 I went the lighting straight.

02:31:15.000 And that dude, you know, shit was getting done how he wanted it done.

02:31:19.000 100%.

02:31:20.000 It has to be.

02:31:21.000 He was too good.

02:31:21.000 Yeah, he's a fucking genius.

02:31:23.000 I remember the guitar solo he did at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

02:31:26.000 Oh, my God.

02:31:27.000 He could do anything.

02:31:28.000 He could play any musical instrument.

02:31:28.000 Yeah.

02:31:30.000 He used to play all the musical instruments.

02:31:32.000 Did you?

02:31:33.000 And he could play basketball.

02:31:34.000 Yeah.

02:31:36.000 Did you watch that Michael Jackson?

02:31:38.000 I did.

02:31:39.000 I saw it.

02:31:40.000 Did you watch it?

02:31:41.000 I did, yeah.

02:31:41.000 How was it?

02:31:42.000 I thought it was good.

02:31:43.000 Ray liked it.

02:31:44.000 You didn't see it yet?

02:31:45.000 Oh, it's good.

02:31:45.000 I didn't see it.

02:31:46.000 No, it's good.

02:31:46.000 Longo sat, watched it.

02:31:47.000 No, it's good.

02:31:48.000 And then he told me.

02:31:49.000 And then he told me.

02:31:50.000 I mean, it's a good thing, I guess.

02:31:53.000 After he's seen it, he goes, He didn't touch any kids.

02:31:56.000 I'll tell you right now, he didn't fucking touch any kids.

02:32:00.000 So I'm like, Longo.

02:32:03.000 So I want to know your thoughts on it.

02:32:05.000 That's hilarious.

02:32:06.000 Because, like, my son's father was fucked up.

02:32:06.000 No, if.

02:32:08.000 Yeah, his father was all fucked up.

02:32:10.000 No, it's a good movie, and the guy who played it, his nephew, nailed it.

02:32:13.000 Yeah, man.

02:32:14.000 Nailed my family.

02:32:15.000 My family loved it.

02:32:15.000 My wife, my kids.

02:32:17.000 They loved it.

02:32:18.000 I didn't see it, though.

02:32:20.000 It's a cautionary tale.

02:32:22.000 The Michael Jackson story is like when kids get that famous, no one can handle it.

02:32:25.000 That's what that is.

02:32:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:32:27.000 There's also the weirdness of the doctor saying that he was chemically castrated.

02:32:31.000 His doc, the same guy that killed him, the same guy that killed him with the prophanol, the guy that put him to sleep with the anesthesia.

02:32:37.000 That guy said that when he was young, his father chemically castrated him to preserve his voice.

02:32:37.000 Uh huh.

02:32:43.000 Yeah.

02:32:43.000 Are you serious?

02:32:45.000 They didn't get into that part.

02:32:46.000 Which totally makes sense.

02:32:47.000 When you look at him in comparison to all the other guys in his family, he's really thin, like he has no testosterone.

02:32:53.000 Yeah, no one really thought about it.

02:32:55.000 All the brothers are all big men.

02:32:57.000 They're men.

02:32:57.000 Like you look at Jermaine, they're big men.

02:33:01.000 He's really thin and he kept that high pitched voice.

02:33:04.000 Like when you listen to some of his human nature, listen to human nature, like that voice is insane.

02:33:09.000 Yeah.

02:33:09.000 We can't play it on the show.

02:33:11.000 But, Jamie, play Human Nature by Michael Jackson real quick.

02:33:15.000 Why did Varus get plump on Game of Thrones when they cut off his balls?

02:33:19.000 Well, I don't think that was real.

02:33:21.000 Oh, yeah.

02:33:22.000 There's also dragons in there.

02:33:24.000 You can still get fat, but you can't, you know, you don't get muscle.

02:33:29.000 Like, you don't have any testosterone.

02:33:31.000 It's gone.

02:33:31.000 You're a young man.

02:33:32.000 They probably weren't feeding that guy either to keep him thin so he could dance.

02:33:35.000 Right.

02:33:35.000 Oh, man.

02:33:36.000 Well, also, he's probably performing every night.

02:33:38.000 So he's burning off shit tons of calories.

02:33:38.000 Every night.

02:33:40.000 If they put a Fitbit on that dude, The amount of steps that he's taking.

02:33:43.000 Dude, it's pretty crazy.

02:33:44.000 Like a front man for a band, the fucking running.

02:33:48.000 They're doing all this money.

02:33:49.000 We're going to play this song, Human Nature.

02:33:52.000 Ooh, the official music video.

02:33:54.000 Oh, man.

02:33:55.000 That voice, I don't think you get that voice from a man.

02:33:58.000 No.

02:33:59.000 A regular man that has testosterone production.

02:34:02.000 The same way that they do it with puberty blockers that they use on kids.

02:34:07.000 No, like when they do puberty blockers, that's what puberty blockers do.

02:34:12.000 What they're doing is they're just blocking all of your testosterone production.

02:34:16.000 Mm hmm.

02:34:17.000 And so they used to do it to criminals.

02:34:19.000 So if they had a sex offender that was, uh, put them in jail, I'm all for that.

02:34:24.000 Yeah.

02:34:25.000 Chop their dicks off.

02:34:26.000 Just eliminate them.

02:34:27.000 We just eliminate them.

02:34:28.000 They should be eliminated.

02:34:28.000 Yeah.

02:34:29.000 But the chemically castration thing, they used to do with opera singers.

02:34:34.000 They called them castrados.

02:34:36.000 But not chemically castrated.

02:34:37.000 They used to use a knife.

02:34:38.000 They used to chop their balls off when they were young.

02:34:40.000 Fuck.

02:34:41.000 So that they could sing like a woman.

02:34:44.000 It was a very haunting sound.

02:34:45.000 Like there's only one recording of a castrato that's from like, Jimmy, when was it from?

02:34:49.000 Like the 1800s?

02:34:51.000 I don't know.

02:34:52.000 There's one recording of a guy singing that had no balls.

02:34:56.000 And then they do it to him when they're really young.

02:34:58.000 They do it to him when they're kids.

02:34:59.000 No kidding.

02:35:00.000 Yeah, like your family sells you off to some opera and they slice your balls off and keep you that way forever.

02:35:07.000 Man.

02:35:08.000 Damn.

02:35:08.000 Crazy.

02:35:10.000 Yeah.

02:35:10.000 And the sound, find that Castrato recording.

02:35:13.000 The sound is haunting, man.

02:35:15.000 You hear the guy singing and he creeps you out.

02:35:17.000 You're like, oh my God, this guy was a little boy and they cut his balls off so he could sing like this.

02:35:22.000 Oh, that's so.

02:35:23.000 Ugh.

02:35:24.000 Yeah, and I think that's what they did to Michael Jackson.

02:35:28.000 Well, at least that's what the doctor says.

02:35:30.000 It makes sense to me.

02:35:31.000 I mean, it makes sense.

02:35:31.000 Like, even watching the movie, how hard his father was on him and how much he demanded of him.

02:35:36.000 Oh, man, you're going to creep us out now?

02:35:38.000 Listen to this guy's voice.

02:35:40.000 Okay.

02:35:40.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

02:35:42.000 That's depressing.

02:35:43.000 But we know that that was an actual process.

02:35:46.000 That was an actual practice that really did chop boys' balls off so they could sing better.

02:35:51.000 Went from happy human nature to sounding like some fun.

02:35:54.000 He was fucking dying.

02:35:56.000 I know, it's really nuts if you think about the horrible things that people were willing to do.

02:35:59.000 This is not disproving it or anything.

02:36:01.000 This is just a guy saying he went to search where they were doing it.

02:36:04.000 I think he said he.

02:36:05.000 Was having very trouble, a lot of trouble finding a lot of information about castrados, yeah, and where they did it or how they did it.

02:36:12.000 But they hide that, yeah.

02:36:14.000 I was chopping nuts off, oh, yeah.

02:36:17.000 Let me take you to the lab, we'll show you what we do with the balls.

02:36:23.000 Are you doing those peptides?

02:36:25.000 Many eunuchs were castrated after puberty, and thus castration had no effect on their voices.

02:36:30.000 Oh, that's a eunuch, though.

02:36:31.000 Well, that's just after puberty, then yeah, right.

02:36:34.000 So, you gotta catch them young, yeah, right?

02:36:38.000 You gotta catch them before they.

02:36:39.000 They grow their nuts.

02:36:41.000 That's so horrible.

02:36:42.000 It says it goes back to 400 AD.

02:36:44.000 Boy, Constantinople.

02:36:47.000 Boy, who came up with that idea?

02:36:51.000 I have an idea.

02:36:53.000 Right?

02:36:54.000 I mean, how many of them died from infection from getting their nuts chopped off, you know?

02:37:00.000 Probably a lot.

02:37:01.000 I know.

02:37:02.000 Back then, they didn't even know what fucking cooties were.

02:37:04.000 They had no idea.

02:37:05.000 Yeah, they didn't clean the night.

02:37:06.000 The night.

02:37:07.000 Yeah.

02:37:08.000 No, disgusting.

02:37:09.000 It started off as a punishment.

02:37:11.000 It wasn't a.

02:37:12.000 And then they realize these guys sing really nice in prison.

02:37:17.000 It's kind of cool.

02:37:19.000 They sing in the shower.

02:37:20.000 I really like it.

02:37:24.000 Gentlemen, this was a lot of fun.

02:37:26.000 As always.

02:37:28.000 We always have such a good time.

02:37:29.000 Matt, how are you feeling?

02:37:31.000 What are you talking about?

02:37:33.000 Why me?

02:37:34.000 Why out of everybody?

02:37:35.000 100 milligrams.

02:37:36.000 Hey, you're all right.

02:37:37.000 Handle like a boss?

02:37:39.000 Like a boss.

02:37:39.000 Your eyes are a little thin.

02:37:41.000 I was going to say, a little bit.

02:37:44.000 Now, my Italian eyes on guys, you handled it.

02:37:49.000 I had a great time.

02:37:50.000 It's always fun.

02:37:51.000 Let's go eat.

02:37:52.000 Let's go eat.

02:37:53.000 Yeah, is it Italian?

02:37:54.000 Uh, well, we can go wherever.

02:37:56.000 Well, what did you want to do?

02:37:58.000 It's let's cut this off.

02:37:59.000 You want to Matt Sarah Bazillion Jiu Jitsu channel on YouTube?

02:38:06.000 That too.

02:38:07.000 Yeah, and you can actually train at Matt's gym.

02:38:09.000 Yeah, you could come there too, but subscribe to that.

02:38:13.000 Yeah, it's ground control.

02:38:15.000 GroundControlUSA.com has all the locations.

02:38:18.000 We just opened in Stewart, Florida.

02:38:20.000 And ShogunFights.com.

02:38:22.000 Next show is November 14th.

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02:38:28.000 Deep Waters every Monday.

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02:38:34.000 Monday at noon, Deep Waters on Paramount Plus.

02:38:36.000 And your film.

02:38:38.000 And my film, Flowers.

02:38:39.000 It's coming out soon.

02:38:39.000 It's a good one.

02:38:40.000 I loved it.

02:38:41.000 I loved it.

02:38:41.000 I've seen it.

02:38:42.000 I loved it.

02:38:44.000 Phenomenal ending.

02:38:45.000 Gentlemen, we did it.

02:38:46.000 Another one.

02:38:47.000 Thank you guys.

02:38:48.000 Bye everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 09, 2026

JRE MMA Show #182 - Protect Ya Neck

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