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00:02:14.000In the best of times, like if Kelvin has the best camp and the best performance, it's entirely possible that he could beat anybody at 185 pounds.
00:02:27.000Boy, I don't know, because Chris Weidman is at 185 pounds, and when Chris Weidman got Kelvin to the ground, it really did look like you're talking about two completely different weight classes.
00:02:37.000And Chris Weidman was able to choke Kelvin out.
00:02:39.000And obviously Weidman is a former champion, and there's absolutely no shame in losing to Chris Weidman.
00:02:46.000But it's just the way it looked when you were watching the fight.
00:02:51.000To me, it looked like two different weight classes.
00:02:55.000And there's a lot of people that think that really Kelvin should be fighting at 170 pounds if he got the proper diet.
00:03:09.000I know Dolce was working with him for a while, and he had his diet in line, and he looked fantastic.
00:03:17.000And then, you know, just things happened, and he didn't want to pay the Dolce money, and I don't know who he's working with right now as a nutritionist, but I just...
00:03:40.000I mean, it could be that maybe what he really needs to do is just lose some body fat, put on some muscle, and maybe 185 pounds will be his weight class.
00:03:49.000It's just that constant debate of whether or not you should weaken your body and Drop down to the minimum weight you can, or whether or not you should fight at a natural weight and have a healthy body.
00:04:05.000It's a real good argument, and I'm pausing right now because I'm pulling something up.
00:04:10.000There's a girl that just died in Australia.
00:05:32.000I just think it's one of the most disturbing and most unfortunate aspects of MMA. Kevin Lee said before his last fight with Tony Ferguson that he felt like he was dying when he was cutting weight.
00:05:49.000Khabib Nurmagomedov, who's the, if not the best, one of the very best lightweights in the world, undefeated Kevin had his body shut down last time he tried to make the weight and couldn't make the Tony Ferguson fight.
00:06:04.000They pulled him out and took him to the hospital.
00:06:06.000I mean I'm beating on a dead horse here because it's something that everybody knows.
00:06:11.000Everybody is aware that it's a terrible, terrible aspect of our sport.
00:06:16.000And in my mind, it's contrary to what martial arts is supposed to be about.
00:06:20.000So in that sense, I encourage Kelvin to stay at 185 pounds because Obviously, the guy's knocked out Vitor Belford at 185. He just knocked out former champion Michael Bisping at 185 pounds.
00:06:34.000I mean, he could knock out anybody at 185. But a guy like Chris Weidman, who's very smart about cutting weight, he cuts a lot of weight, but he does it the right way, rehydrates the right way, and he's just a fucking beast.
00:06:50.000And when he got Kelvin to the ground and submitted him with a head and arm choke, boy, it just really seemed like that's the wrong weight class for Kelvin.
00:06:57.000And then you see Kelvin, next fight, fights Bisping and just fucking lights him up in the first round.
00:07:03.000Now, would he have been able to do that if he fought the Bisping that was training for George St. Pierre?
00:07:11.000I mean, if Bisping did not have the George St. Pierre fight and just went right into the Kelvin Gaslam fight, Would the same result have happened?
00:10:44.000I mean, I understand the UFC needed someone to fill in and short notice because Anderson Silva tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs, and they did not want to lose the Shanghai main event.
00:10:57.000So it turns into an even bigger fight when you've got the former middleweight champion right off of his loss three weeks later fighting again, but...
00:12:26.000The way to look at it is, if you look at a garden hose, and you know how you can bend a garden hose and cramp it down, and it stops the water from coming out?
00:12:34.000That's exactly what happens to your fucking brain when you get choked out.
00:12:39.000When you get choked out, it's basically cutting off the blood of your brain.
00:14:42.000I think you look at competition-wise, Jon Jones is a very strong argument for the greatest of all time.
00:14:49.000But Anderson Silva's fucking right there too, man.
00:14:53.000Anderson Silva in his prime, I think, when you look at the way he knocked out Vitor Belfort with that front kick to the face, when you look at the way he fought...
00:15:02.000Forrest Griffin in that fight that we were just talking about and KO'd him like a magician, the way he fought Stefan Bonner and literally put his back up against the cage.
00:15:11.000Again, Stefan Bonner and Forrest Griffin, they're just – No disrespect, they're not at the same level as Lyoto Machida or Glover Teixeira or some of the guys that Jon Jones has faced.
00:16:04.000They get clipped and you don't know why.
00:16:05.000I mean they get hit with something and look, at any time when a person is throwing a punch or a kick at you and it connects, it can put you out.
00:16:15.000But there's no doubt at all, no doubt about it, that the resiliency of a fighter After they've been KO'd is compromised.
00:16:36.000Their body is still recovering from the concussion.
00:16:38.000And you have to figure out a way to balance being a risk taker and seizing an opportunity, which is a huge opportunity, Versus concentrating on having a long and healthy career.
00:16:55.000Now, that said, for Michael Bisping, he's kind of at the end of his career.
00:17:02.000I mean, he said essentially that he wants to fight one more time in England, which would be beautiful for him.
00:17:06.000And I hope they give him a good matchup so it'll be a good fight for the fans.
00:17:11.000And I hope they give Michael some time off.
00:17:14.000Give the man some time to really relax and then go through a real nice three, four-month training camp, get in excellent shape, and give his best effort for one more go at it.
00:17:38.000He came to see me in Denver and I was telling him, I was like, dude, that fight that you have with Diego Sanchez, what a perfect way to go out.
00:17:46.000Beautiful, spectacular knockout, classic Matt Brown fight, just blood and guts.
00:17:51.000He's one of my all-time favorite fighters to watch, for sure, because he's so fucking ferocious.
00:17:58.000You knew when you were going to go to see a Matt Brown fight, if Matt Brown was fighting anybody, win, lose, or draw, that guy was going to have to face hell.
00:19:36.000Because the thrill that you experience, I mean, obviously, I've never fought inside the octagon, so I'm just guessing, but the thrill of just fighting in general, it's such a much higher level of danger and excitement than most people experience in everyday life.
00:19:56.000And it makes regular life seem dull and gray in comparison.
00:20:02.000When those guys get into the octagon, when a guy like Matt Brown smashes an elbow down on Diego Sanchez and Diego slumps and goes limp and the crowd goes insane and, you know...
00:20:13.000Just when Matt got into the octagon, there's a crazy video of the fight.
00:20:19.000While we're watching the fight, Matt steps into the octagon, steps through the cage, and fucking roars!
00:20:44.000That is as exciting as life is going to be for him or for any combat sports athlete.
00:20:51.000And it is incredibly, incredibly hard to give that up.
00:20:56.000Once you've experienced that, man, I mean, you see it in these guys.
00:21:00.000It's so hard for them to know when to walk away.
00:21:04.000But I think it's incredibly critical to balance out the glory of combat sports, the glory of giving your all and going out on your shield sometimes and sometimes winning with vicious knockout or incredible submission, but knowing when the body has taken enough, knowing when your vehicle is damaged to the point where you should not be engaging in competition anymore.
00:23:05.000First of all, the first fight was very good until Aldo ran out of gas and Holloway took over.
00:23:12.000Aldo's camp was saying that going into that fight, Aldo had a leg injury, which kind of makes sense because he really didn't throw many leg kicks.
00:23:19.000But he also didn't throw very many leg kicks against Frankie Edgar.
00:23:22.000I think the strategy for that fight, though, was that he was worried about the takedowns of Frankie Edgar.
00:23:28.000So he had decided to avoid being taken down.
00:23:31.000One of the best ways to do it would be just to avoid kicking and just outbox him.
00:23:35.000And he did that very well in that fight and won a pretty clear, unanimous decision.
00:23:40.000This is going to be a different fighter.
00:23:48.000And he's incredibly confident that he's going to be able to beat Aldo the second time.
00:23:52.000Aldo, though, said that he had this leg injury and it prevented him from throwing leg kicks, but that it's better now.
00:23:59.000And that's one of the reasons why he's excited about fighting Holloway again.
00:24:02.000Now, if that is the case and if Aldo is in tremendous shape because he took this fight on relatively short notice, he did not get a full two, three-month training camp.
00:24:11.000I think it was five weeks out, maybe more.
00:24:28.000We're going to find out if Aldo can make the proper adjustments and whether or not the ability to throw leg kicks is going to make a difference because Aldo's leg kicks classically in history have been some of the very best in the game.
00:24:41.000If you look at his fight with Uriah Faber, it's one of the very best uses ever.
00:24:47.000Best use of leg kicks maybe in the featherweight division ever and just smashed Uriah Faber's leg to the point where, I mean, it's one of the all-time grossest injuries in MMA. Uriah's left leg was like twice the size of his right leg and had to do a bunch of crazy therapy to recover from it, including hyperbaric chamber, and, you know, he documented it.
00:25:51.000Hopefully, we're going to find out from an in shape.
00:25:53.000I mean, I don't know what kind of camp he was involved in, like how hard he was training, rather, before he entered into camp for this championship fight.
00:26:03.000I'm hoping that he was in good shape, and that's one of the reasons why he was so eager to take the fight.
00:29:10.000Caught him with some brutal punches and KO'd him.
00:29:13.000That was in 2003. Before that, Bobby Hoffman, a lot of people forgot about Bobby Hoffman, way back in rings, KO'd him in 2003. That's it for MMA. So, just MMA KOs, right?
00:29:35.000The first KO loss, we have Bobby Hoffman, then we have Chuck Liddell, then we have Shogun, then we have Little Nog, then we have Arona, then we have Shogun again, then we have Karatanov.
00:31:19.000And one of the things that I like about Alistair these days is since he's gone over to Jackson and Winklejohn in Albuquerque, he has become much more elusive, much slicker on his feet, moves around a lot more, and doesn't just try to smash people.
00:31:38.000The Uberm, the guy that we saw fight Brock Lesnar in his UFC debut.
00:31:56.000What you're seeing is the Alistair Overeem that fought Junior Dos Santos, who fought an incredibly clever fight, moved around well.
00:32:04.000He was very, very slick, very difficult to hit, and then started scoring on Junior and then eventually caught him with a beautiful left hook and KO'd him.
00:32:15.000That, to me, is the interesting Andrei Orlovsky today, a guy who realizes that Perhaps he can't take a punch like he did when he was younger.
00:32:26.000He's been in a lot of really, really tough fights as we just went over.
00:32:30.000And realizes like, hey, now I have to be smart.
00:34:41.000And Francis Ngannou, who is right now 10-1 in the UFC. 10-1 with zero draws, so 10 wins.
00:34:49.000And he's just been smashing everybody.
00:34:51.000And if he looked at his last fight against Andrei Arlovsky, that was a fight where it was probably one of the first fights where he really got tested.
00:34:58.000We really got to see what happens when he fights a former champion and a former really world-class fighter.
00:35:06.000And it was a good test, but now a bigger test is in front of him when he's going to fight Alistair Overeem.
00:36:28.000I mean, arguably, he hasn't even reached his prime yet because Ngannou is one of those guys that at 31 years of age is near his physical prime, but he's still learning.
00:36:39.000He's still getting better at the sport.
00:36:41.000And as he fights better and better competition, you're going to see more of his skills shine.
00:36:47.000You're going to see where the holes are in his game, and you're going to see how he responds to adversity.
00:36:53.000Hopefully, we're going to get a chance to see all those things in this fight.
00:36:57.000If Overeem wins, there's a very good argument for him being next in line to fight Stipe and Mioche.
00:37:03.000The real question about the heavyweight division, the real question other than who's next for Stipe, the real question is the health of Cain Velasquez.
00:37:13.000Cain Velasquez, in my opinion, is without a doubt one of the greatest heavyweights of all time.
00:37:20.000He's just a force of nature when he's in shape.
00:37:23.000When you see the Cain Velasquez that beat Ben Rothwell, when you see the Cain Velasquez that just stormed the division, when you see him in the second and third fight with Junior Dos Santos, that Cain Velasquez is a fucking monster.
00:37:38.000The question is, after all the surgeries, back surgery, knee surgery, shoulder surgery, can he come back and be that guy again?
00:37:48.000As a fan, I most certainly hope he can, but we're really not going to know.
00:37:53.000Another fight on the card that's very interesting is Henry Cejudo and Sergio Pettis.
00:37:59.000Sergio Pettis is the younger brother of Showtime Pettis, Anthony Pettis, who is the former lightweight champion.
00:38:07.000And Henry Cejudo, of course, is a former Olympic gold medalist, the number two ranked flyweight in the world.
00:38:13.000And Henry is coming off of an absolutely spectacular KO of Wilson Hayes.
00:38:21.000I was blown away by him in that fight.
00:38:24.000In that fight, he looked like some sort of a karate master.
00:38:28.000I mean, it was a very, very interesting fight.
00:39:19.000He trains under the great Duke Rufus, who in my opinion is one of the very best guys in the division in terms of his ability to coach fighters.
00:39:29.000Not in the division, I should say in the division.
00:39:33.000Duke Rufus is just an amazing striking coach.
00:39:36.000He's a former world Muay Thai champion himself, outstanding kickboxer, and extremely knowledgeable about both kickboxing and MMA, and one of the best guys in the world at training kickboxers for MMA. I mean, he's just fantastic.
00:39:51.000And what we've seen from young Sergio, we saw him get submitted by Alex Caceres early on in his career.
00:40:02.000And Alex is just slicker and caught him on the ground.
00:40:06.000And then we saw him lose again to Ryan Benoit.
00:40:10.000I think that these losses, especially for a young fighter, are absolutely critical.
00:40:16.000I think you find out what you're really made of and you see what you need to improve upon.
00:40:21.000And in fighting tough guys early on, like Alex Caceres, like Ryan Benoit, I mean...
00:40:28.000And we're talking about two years ago, he fought Benoit.
00:40:37.000So he's a really young kid, still learning, still growing, on the job, and has looked fantastic in his last few fights.
00:40:45.000Looked really good against John Moraga, and looked even better against Brandon Moreno in his last fight, which was a five-round unanimous decision victory.
00:40:56.000So this, in my opinion, is going to be the toughest fight of his career because Henry Cejudo just has that Olympic gold medal winner mindset.
00:41:08.000The mindset of a guy like Cejudo, I mean, this guy is focused on being a champion 24 hours a day.
00:41:15.000And if you look at the way he fought against Wilson Hayes, I mean, if that's indicative of the kind of improvement that this guy can make, And Kieran Fitzgibbons, who is another fucking phenomenal Muay Thai coach, he told me that this kid is just a sponge and just can learn so fast at a ridiculous weight.
00:41:37.000And I think you're looking at athletic prowess in Henry Cejudo, but I think maybe perhaps more important than that, you're looking at his mind.
00:41:46.000His mind is just ultra sharp and focused and determined.
00:41:52.000And he's just got that championship mindset.
00:41:54.000I mean, that's why he is an Olympic gold medalist in wrestling.
00:41:58.000So he's got unparalleled wrestling skill.
00:42:02.000And then on top of that, if you look at the Wilson Hayes fight, you look at radical improvements in his striking and movement.
00:42:08.000I mean, he looked like a combination of a prime, Lyoto Machida, and Conor McGregor with his movement against Wilson Hayes.
00:42:17.000I think a lot of guys are realizing that karate style, if you have all those other bases covered, if you have great wrestling, if you have submissions, good takedown defense, and good boxing skills, as well as Muay Thai, everything else, that karate stance, that sideways stance that we see employed all the time by Wonderboy Thompson, that we see...
00:42:39.000We've seen a bunch of different fighters.
00:42:41.000Of course, Lyoto Machida, a bunch of different fighters use that stance inside the octagon.
00:42:46.000Conor McGregor, it's a very difficult stance to deal with.
00:42:50.000If you're good at it, if you're good at that movement, that in and out, side to side movement, Michael Venom Page has a very unusual take on that.
00:42:59.000Fighting in Bellator, he likes to fight like that too.
00:43:02.000And of course he's a former point fighting champion.
00:43:05.000That style is fucking hard to deal with.
00:43:10.000And if you're dealing with a guy like Cejudo who's lightning fast on top of that and starts moving like that with those world-class wrestling skills, with excellent striking, you know, classic striking, boxing, kickboxing.
00:45:49.000Alvarez, you know, Herb Dean was defending it, saying that Alvarez didn't intentionally knee Poirier.
00:45:56.000And if I remember the fight, it was a crazy war.
00:46:00.000Alvarez had been rocked, Poirier had been rocked, Poirier was bloodied, and Alvarez hit him with an unintentional knee that could have Resulted in a disqualification win for Poirier.
00:46:15.000And Poirier was saying that he looked at it as a win, which is interesting.
00:46:24.000So, anyway, Poirier rebounded from that fight.
00:46:28.000Obviously, and stopped Anthony Pettis in his last fight.
00:46:33.000So the division is just crazy and unbelievably hot right now.
00:46:39.000And everybody waiting to see what the fuck happens with Conor McGregor rebounding.
00:46:43.000But Eddie Alvarez with the no contest and before that the KO loss to Conor McGregor desperately rebounding.
00:46:50.000He needs a win, and he's coming in there against one of the most fucking savage guys in the division.
00:46:57.000Justin Gage showed in that Michael Johnson fight what he's made of, and a lot of people were very excited to see him inside the octagon.
00:47:03.000He had been fighting in the World Series of Fighting and looking like an absolute monster.
00:47:08.000But against what a lot of people thought was just not the same caliber of competition as the UFC offered.
00:47:16.000And so they wanted to see what would happen if he fought a real world class fighter.
00:47:21.000And what we saw in the Michael Johnson fight is a Justin Gaethje who fights...
00:47:26.000I don't want to say reckless, but he puts himself in danger.
00:47:31.000And it's one of the things that makes him so exciting.
00:47:53.000Just so much fun and so fucking crazy.
00:47:57.000There was so much chaos in that fight.
00:47:59.000And a lot of people were introduced to Justin Gaethje from that fight.
00:48:04.000The hardcore fans had known him already from the World Series of Fighting and had heard about him through the internet.
00:48:09.000But the UFC fans and the people that were watching that night, they really got a chance to be treated to just the kind of chaotic fight That is really going to bring the casual fan, when they see a guy like Justin Gagey fight, it's really going to make you...
00:48:36.000I mean, other than Matt Brown, who I talked about before.
00:48:40.000But even Matt Brown is capable of winning so many different ways.
00:48:44.000Whereas Gagey, he's going to probably try to knock you out.
00:48:49.000I mean, he's even said himself that he might get knocked out.
00:48:52.000You're probably going to see me get knocked out, he said.
00:48:55.000Over the next few years, he's got that mindset, this kill or be killed mindset.
00:49:00.000And it's just absolutely fascinating to see this kid compete inside the octagon because he's so fucking crazy because he's such a fucking animal inside the octagon.
00:49:12.000He's just got this undeniable killer instinct and indomitable spirit.
00:50:20.000He did a fantastic job doing commentary for Dana White's Tuesday Night Fight Show, the Tuesday Night Contenders Show, and he's done some UFC events now as well and just excellent.
00:50:34.000Great enthusiasm, very knowledgeable, great talker, smart, articulate guy.
00:50:40.000And he's fighting Charles Oliveira Saturday night.
00:50:43.000Now, Charles Oliveira is a guy who has had mixed success inside the octagon.
00:52:02.000Ricardo Lamas finished him by submission in the second round.
00:52:08.000So he beat Will Brooks by submission in the first round of his last fight and got back on track.
00:52:14.000Looked excellent in that fight and fought that fight.
00:52:18.000It was a real do-or-die fight for him against Will Brooks, a guy who was coming over from Bellator, a guy who was very talented, and Oliveira wound up submitting him.
00:52:30.000And in my opinion, this is one of the most dangerous fights for him right now at this stage of his career because Paul Felder is a fucking killer.
00:52:42.000He's a big 155 pounder, whereas Oliveira is a smaller 155 pounder, a guy who's fought at 145 before, but just really had a hard time making that weight.
00:52:52.000Felder's going to have a power and strength advantage, and Oliveira is going to have to be crafty.
00:53:00.000And in my opinion, his best way to win this fight is to get this fight to the ground.
00:53:04.000And that's going to be a tall order, a very tall order.
00:53:07.000Felder is just a very aggressive, very durable and extremely aggressive guy at 155 pounds.
00:54:50.000And for Oliveira, Oliveira's got to capitalize on that victory that he just had over Will Brooks.
00:54:59.000And, you know, he's a little bit younger at 28 and still got massive potential and an incredible amount of experience for a guy who's 28 years old.
00:55:10.000This card is stacked from top to bottom.
00:55:13.000I mean, you've got Cowboy Oliveira versus Yancey Medeiros is on that fight and David Tamer is on that fight card as well against Drakkar Close.
00:55:27.000That's the big sleeper fight there because David Tamer is a fucking vicious striker.
00:55:34.000I mean real world class striker and he's only 28 years old and David Tamer really let everybody know what the fuck is up when he fought Lando Venata.
00:55:45.000A lot of people had no idea who he was up until that fight even though he had won two fights in a row by KO in the octagon.
00:55:56.000When you got to see that kid compete against a really talented striker like Lando Venata and just outstrike him every step of the way, you really got to see how good he is.
00:56:07.000And again, at 28 years of age, I don't think we've seen the best of him yet.
00:56:11.000I think he has just got a massive, massive amount of potential.
00:56:15.000And that's the fight that I think is the big sleeper fight on this card.
00:56:19.000A lot of people are just not quite aware of it.
00:56:23.000And the guys fighting Drakkar close, 8-0 with one draw and very fucking dangerous fighter as well.
00:56:31.000You know, he's coming from two victories in a row in the UFC and this will be his probably his most dangerous fight against Tamer.
00:56:41.000Tamer is just a Wild, fast, dynamic striker with legit world-class kickboxing Muay Thai skills.
00:58:20.000Do not get popcorn while that fight is going on.
00:58:22.000As long as at last, that fight will be chaos.
00:58:26.000I think Cejudo versus Pettis is going to be a very interesting test to see where Pettis is at this stage of his career and to see if Cejudo can continue to show these massive jumps and leaps of improvement that he showed in his last fight against Wilson Hayes.
00:58:46.000I am interested to see whether or not Francis and Gano can catch Alistair Overeem or whether or not he finds himself against a guy who's far too crafty for him at this stage of his career.
00:59:54.000Overeem believes that he has the skills to put Ngannou in his place and reestablish himself as the number one contender in the heavyweight division.
01:00:03.000That makes me very happy to see that fight.
01:00:06.000And then, of course, for all the marbles in the featherweight division, Max Holloway versus Jose motherfucking Aldo for the title.
01:00:15.000You know, with a guy like Aldo, you've got to remember, you're talking about a guy who was the best ever at featherweight for a long fucking time.
01:00:24.000You're talking about a guy that, up until that Conor McGregor fight, had beaten everybody that they put in front of him.
01:00:30.000He rebounded fantastic from that fight with the Frankie Edgar fight, then got beat down by Max Holloway.
01:00:36.000I want to see where he's at right now.
01:00:38.000I want to see whether or not he can rebound.
01:00:41.000And I want to see after 29 professional MMA fights at the highest level, at 31 years of age, does he still have what it takes to fight at a world championship level?
01:00:51.000And can he come back better than ever?
01:00:54.000Now, with Max Holloway, he's a fucking killer.
01:00:57.000Max Holloway has everything you want to see in a champion, a championships mindset.
01:01:02.000And the way he wanted to go down at 25 years of age, too, I mean, just keeps getting better.
01:02:26.000I'm also going to ask questions or have you guys ask questions.
01:02:31.000So what I'm going to do is for the next one, I'm going to put a post up on Instagram and allow you guys and gals and non-binary folks to put...
01:03:19.000Owen Smith, the guy that I've been telling you folks about who's, in my opinion, one of the funniest motherfuckers on the planet Earth and a guy people are sleeping on.
01:03:27.000People just don't know how good Owen Smith is.