The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #22 with Bas Rutten

00:00:00.000 Three two one boom BOOM! And we are live with El Guapo as he tries to navigate his phone with his left hand.

00:00:11.000 What did you punch with your right hand?

00:00:12.000 A table.

00:00:13.000 A table that was stronger than me.

00:00:16.000 Yeah, this size table.

00:00:17.000 Why did you punch a table?

00:00:19.000 Okay, so I was in three states in six days.

00:00:22.000 I slept four hours per night.

00:00:24.000 I just came from Chicago.

00:00:25.000 And this whole thing, I had to get up at four.

00:00:27.000 And then I had a shoot, a commercial shoot for my body action system starting at 10. And this happened at 10.30 p.m.

00:00:35.000 So I was 12 and a half hours in.

00:00:37.000 And I already said, okay, you know what, I'm not going to do it anymore because I couldn't retain information anymore.

00:00:41.000 I had some lines to remember, you know, they were feeding me lines.

00:00:45.000 I couldn't do it anymore.

00:00:46.000 I said, this is it.

00:00:47.000 I stopped.

00:00:48.000 But then they said, yeah, but if you can do this little thing, okay, I'll try that one more time.

00:00:52.000 And of course it didn't work.

00:00:53.000 And I said, you know what, I threw out my gloves. 1.00

00:00:56.000 And somehow, this is how stupid you are, you throw off your glove and two seconds after I took it off, I hit the table somehow. 0.99

00:01:04.000 I still needed to hit something and I decided to do it without a glove instead of with a glove. 1.00

00:01:10.000 A solid thing.

00:01:11.000 Guess what's gonna lose?

00:01:13.000 My pinky knuckle! 1.00

00:01:14.000 And they incapacitate your entire arm for that, pretty much, I think.

00:01:19.000 Just for a pinky knuckle. 0.76

00:01:20.000 They call it a boxing fetcher.

00:01:21.000 Yeah.

00:01:23.000 These two are like, that's like the old school, bringing us back to karate combat.

00:01:28.000 Old school karate days, I would always recommend that you punch like this.

00:01:31.000 You know what I did?

00:01:32.000 And I know, and I was going to do that, but the amount of force I was using at this moment, really fast, in milliseconds, and you had to go say, it's better to spread out the impact even more, because I was...

00:01:41.000 Because you're hitting it so hard?

00:01:42.000 Yeah, I knew I was going to bring the big one too, if I would do it. 1.00

00:01:45.000 Yeah, it was just one of those stupid things. 1.00

00:01:47.000 You just lost your marbles. 1.00

00:01:49.000 And five seconds, because I hit, boom, they look at me, everybody's freaking out, and I go, nah, it's over.

00:01:54.000 She says, you know pain?

00:01:55.000 I said, no pain, but it's broke.

00:01:56.000 He said, how do you know?

00:01:57.000 I said, trust me, I can feel it.

00:01:59.000 So, I was right away, I was calm again, everything was good.

00:02:02.000 Nobody died that night. 1.00

00:02:04.000 Damn, boss. 1.00

00:02:04.000 I know! 1.00

00:02:05.000 That right arm's been through hell.

00:02:06.000 It been.

00:02:07.000 And you know, this, for me, to lose cool like that, that happens once every five years or so.

00:02:12.000 But I get angry?

00:02:12.000 I never get angry.

00:02:13.000 I don't have that.

00:02:14.000 Not that kind of anger.

00:02:16.000 That I hit something.

00:02:17.000 I mean, how old am I? Right.

00:02:19.000 You seem to always be a happy guy.

00:02:22.000 That's what I am.

00:02:23.000 But I think it's also because I'm happy.

00:02:25.000 So when it gets angry, that's what the fights, that's what always happens.

00:02:29.000 I'm nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice.

00:02:31.000 Try to diffuse it.

00:02:33.000 Then I realize, wait a minute.

00:02:35.000 And then I'm asking them, I say, you don't think I'm afraid, right?

00:02:39.000 I say, I'm doing this for you.

00:02:41.000 I'm protecting you right now.

00:02:43.000 That's why I don't want to fight.

00:02:44.000 And at the moment you say that, you know, some of them call you bluff.

00:02:48.000 And then, because he did it for such a long time, yeah, then I'll make sure that...

00:02:53.000 Boss smash, yeah.

00:02:54.000 But those are the old boss days.

00:02:55.000 Those old boss days, no more.

00:02:57.000 No more boss like this.

00:02:58.000 I like that, actually.

00:03:00.000 And I don't think it's a healthy boss either.

00:03:03.000 How is your arm doing in terms of the atrophy?

00:03:05.000 Is it growing back?

00:03:06.000 Oh, it's definitely growing back, though.

00:03:08.000 Yeah, it gets a little bit bigger now.

00:03:10.000 I have this new stuff that I'm trying.

00:03:13.000 I have it at home.

00:03:14.000 I need bacteriostatic water for it.

00:03:16.000 It's a peptide called BPC-157.

00:03:19.000 Did you ever hear that?

00:03:20.000 Yeah, Ben Greenfield told me about that.

00:03:22.000 It's great for tendons and ligaments and stuff.

00:03:24.000 Yeah, even nerves and regrows apparently everything and rats I mean they regrow tendons everything and I'm gonna try it I'm gonna try it locally here on the bicep see what it does as soon as I have the water so it seems like the Muscles are growing back though like slowly, but surely.

00:03:38.000 Yeah, but it's six years six years Yeah, it's a good 25 pounds.

00:03:45.000 I can do eight times now bicep curls with the right That's a lot better than it used to be, though.

00:03:51.000 I couldn't do five pounds.

00:03:52.000 Wow.

00:03:53.000 Yeah, not once.

00:03:54.000 Pat Miletic is the same thing.

00:03:56.000 Same thing, from his neck.

00:03:57.000 You know, you want to hear how crazy Pat's injury was?

00:04:00.000 Pat's disc had deteriorated so badly that his discs fused themselves.

00:04:05.000 And he didn't realize that.

00:04:07.000 That guy is a complete animal. 1.00

00:04:08.000 He's a fucking animal. 1.00

00:04:09.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:04:11.000 He didn't even realize it.

00:04:13.000 His discs fused themselves.

00:04:14.000 He went to the doctor, and they're like, well, we don't have to fuse it.

00:04:17.000 It already fused itself.

00:04:18.000 Well, if you talk to him and he looks at you, it's like he hasn't fused next, right?

00:04:23.000 He's always like Batman.

00:04:24.000 He looks to the side.

00:04:26.000 He can't move.

00:04:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:04:28.000 Fucking grappling, man. 0.99

00:04:30.000 I know. 0.99

00:04:31.000 They'll blame it on punching and kicking, but all the knees, injury, everything, my rib that was out, my loss, it's all wrestling.

00:04:38.000 It's grappling and wrestling.

00:04:39.000 Yeah, grappling. 1.00

00:04:39.000 Wrestlers are all fucked up. 1.00

00:04:40.000 We were talking about Kurt Angle yesterday, who's an Olympic gold medalist, fantastic wrestler. 1.00

00:04:45.000 I mean, he's got a neck that literally is like the size of my waist, but his neck is so fucked up, both of his arms are tiny. 0.88

00:04:52.000 And you can see the atrophy in his arms. 0.98

00:04:54.000 Like, his arms don't match his neck. 0.98

00:04:57.000 Oh, that sucks.

00:04:58.000 And you can tell, I mean, obviously you know better than anybody about neck injuries. 0.91

00:05:03.000 Guys always, like, their arms shrink because they get atrophy.

00:05:06.000 It cuts off the nerves.

00:05:07.000 Can you imagine?

00:05:08.000 So with him, it's both ways then.

00:05:10.000 Yeah, well, it looks...

00:05:11.000 Pull up that picture again, Jamie.

00:05:13.000 See if you can find it.

00:05:14.000 This is Ronda Rousey's Instagram.

00:05:16.000 You can see it.

00:05:17.000 I saw him at the induction at the International Sports Hall of Fame.

00:05:21.000 I was there for...

00:05:22.000 Ronda was there as well, and he was sitting first row.

00:05:24.000 But he was wearing a suit, of course, so I couldn't tell.

00:05:26.000 Yeah, well, he still looks like a tank.

00:05:28.000 Yeah, he does. 1.00

00:05:29.000 But his fucking neck is ridiculous. 1.00

00:05:30.000 It's so big. 1.00

00:05:31.000 But, like, look at this...

00:05:33.000 What happened?

00:05:34.000 That's us.

00:05:35.000 That's great.

00:05:36.000 See, look at his arms.

00:05:37.000 Oh, wow, yeah.

00:05:39.000 See, the size of his neck? 1.00

00:05:40.000 I mean, his neck, it looks like his arms should be as big as his fucking legs. 1.00

00:05:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:05:45.000 He just is, I mean, the guy's been through hell. 1.00

00:05:47.000 But look at the fucking size of his neck. 0.99

00:05:49.000 Have you seen a neck like that before? 1.00

00:05:50.000 That shit's crazy. 1.00

00:05:52.000 You build a lot of muscle around it, I guess. 1.00

00:05:54.000 Well, yeah, it's all fucked up. 0.98

00:05:55.000 It's been fused and... 0.98

00:05:57.000 That's yours, right?

00:05:58.000 Yeah, for this fusion, front and back.

00:06:01.000 Well, one splint, you know, that opens it up, and then the other ones are fusions.

00:06:04.000 And I have a friend of mine who has five, and he can't move.

00:06:08.000 Like, look, with me, I have mobility, but he can't do this.

00:06:11.000 He can't look to the side a little bit.

00:06:13.000 Yeah, I was talking to a buddy of mine about a mutual friend of ours, and I didn't realize that he had done this, but he had went to Germany and got his whole back fused.

00:06:22.000 His whole back is completely rock-solid fused.

00:06:25.000 You know who has that too?

00:06:26.000 Who?

00:06:26.000 I was looking for him in the hospital, Don Fry.

00:06:29.000 Don Fry has that too?

00:06:30.000 10-disc fusion.

00:06:32.000 This guy died twice on the operating table.

00:06:35.000 He had infections, the rods were broke, everything.

00:06:38.000 Man, I was in his hospital, he lost a lot of weight, he had a big beard, and he said, check this out.

00:06:44.000 He stood up, and from his butt crack, all the way to above his shoulder blades, One big zipper.

00:06:52.000 10 disc fusion!

00:06:54.000 That is insane.

00:06:55.000 How many discs are in your back? 1.00

00:06:58.000 Shit. 1.00

00:06:59.000 I have no clue. 1.00

00:07:00.000 We gotta Google that. 0.99

00:07:01.000 That's fucking crazy. 0.99

00:07:02.000 How many do you think are in there, Jamie? 1.00

00:07:04.000 13 I'd go.

00:07:05.000 15?

00:07:06.000 16?

00:07:07.000 So there's one disc hanging in there.

00:07:09.000 Jesus!

00:07:10.000 Take me!

00:07:10.000 One disc.

00:07:11.000 It's gonna go.

00:07:12.000 That's what they say with fusions.

00:07:14.000 If you have a fusion, then the discs below or above are gonna be next, they say.

00:07:18.000 How many?

00:07:19.000 There's 33. Oh!

00:07:21.000 It's not that bad then!

00:07:23.000 He's doing great!

00:07:23.000 There's only 10 fusions!

00:07:25.000 Eddie Bravo has an artificial disc.

00:07:28.000 They put artificial discs in now, these articulating titanium discs.

00:07:30.000 I wish I had that, I know.

00:07:32.000 I couldn't do that at the time.

00:07:33.000 Yeah.

00:07:34.000 It was in the early stages.

00:07:36.000 But Eddie's got no problem with it at all.

00:07:37.000 It moves great.

00:07:38.000 But that's what I mean.

00:07:39.000 For me, I can't do that anymore.

00:07:41.000 Maybe future, you know, with the printing that they do now, the 3D printing, maybe they can make an exact copy of my spine and then they can still do it.

00:07:49.000 Put it back in there.

00:07:50.000 Oof.

00:07:50.000 It will be something, but that's scary.

00:07:52.000 Imagine that. 0.99

00:07:53.000 They cut your spine out, put a fucking titanium one in. 1.00

00:07:56.000 Ah-ha-ha. 1.00

00:07:58.000 My daughter, my oldest daughter, just told me, my ex-wife, she's going to have to do it at the lower back. 1.00

00:08:04.000 She's got like two or three fusions they're going to need to do, but she's going to do disc replacement as well. 1.00

00:08:08.000 Yeah?

00:08:09.000 Yeah.

00:08:09.000 Yeah, disc replacement is legit now.

00:08:11.000 You know Braulio Estima?

00:08:13.000 Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black bro.

00:08:14.000 Very famous Jiu-Jitsu guy. 0.56

00:08:16.000 He's got one in his neck.

00:08:17.000 He was the first guy that I ever heard about it. 1.00

00:08:18.000 He fucked his neck up really bad and then won the Worlds with a fucked up neck. 0.99

00:08:23.000 And then right after the Worlds went and got it operated on. 1.00

00:08:26.000 Where did he do it?

00:08:28.000 Because he's from Brazil.

00:08:29.000 Did he do it in Brazil?

00:08:29.000 I think he did it in Europe because he lives in England.

00:08:32.000 Germany will be a... 0.98

00:08:33.000 I would let the Germans look at my back. 0.99

00:08:35.000 They're really good.

00:08:36.000 They're far advanced. 0.99

00:08:37.000 Yeah, well, we got really fucked up during the Bush administration. 0.97

00:08:42.000 They put a ban on all stem cell research. 0.98

00:08:45.000 They kind of halted the brakes on funding stem cell research, which is really a shame.

00:08:51.000 Because they used to think that stem cells had to do with babies, like fetuses.

00:08:57.000 They were thinking people were going to get abortions just so they could use the stem cells.

00:09:00.000 But now they realize that mesenchymal stem cells and adult stem cells are some of the best.

00:09:06.000 And one of the things they're doing in America now is sucking fat out of people, taking liposuction, and then using the stem cells from your own body.

00:09:14.000 To proliferate injured areas.

00:09:16.000 I did it two weeks ago for my knees.

00:09:18.000 Did you?

00:09:18.000 But yeah, I have no fat though.

00:09:20.000 So I had to take it out of my hip bone.

00:09:22.000 You know, they drill a hole in there.

00:09:23.000 Oh, right.

00:09:23.000 They take the marrow.

00:09:24.000 Yeah, they take the bone marrow.

00:09:25.000 And it's unfortunate because in the fat, apparently you have five times more the amount of stem cells than you have in the bone marrow.

00:09:32.000 People out there that are fat or pumped to hear that.

00:09:34.000 They're like, yes.

00:09:34.000 Oh, see?

00:09:35.000 I told you.

00:09:36.000 I have it for a reason.

00:09:37.000 That's why I did it.

00:09:38.000 Just if I ever get injured, I've got a store of medicine.

00:09:41.000 That's why Ted Gabbard never got injured.

00:09:44.000 Even if he did, he wouldn't know.

00:09:47.000 What is that guy doing these days?

00:09:49.000 I have no clue.

00:09:50.000 I know he wrote a book that was the last time he had on Inside MMA. Oh, you guys had him on?

00:09:53.000 Yeah, I mean, that's five years ago.

00:09:56.000 I love that guy. 1.00

00:09:56.000 That guy was a fucking character. 1.00

00:09:58.000 I mean, if it wasn't for guys like Tank Abbott, I mean, there would have been no early days. 0.99

00:10:02.000 Yeah.

00:10:03.000 You know, I mean, you needed a guy like that.

00:10:04.000 Yeah, you had to identify with him, right? 0.55

00:10:06.000 So a lot of these crazy guys out there, see, he can do it, I can do this.

00:10:09.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:10:10.000 That's what you need. 0.96

00:10:10.000 Yeah, he had a giant belly and he would knock people dead. 0.96

00:10:13.000 Yeah.

00:10:14.000 He was like Roy Nelson only with no stamina.

00:10:18.000 Yeah.

00:10:19.000 And no black belt technique on the ground.

00:10:21.000 No black belt in jiu-jitsu.

00:10:22.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:10:23.000 Well, Roy Nelson is a fucking complete anomaly, right? 0.99

00:10:26.000 Yeah, he is. 0.99

00:10:27.000 Who looks like that?

00:10:28.000 Why can't he lose weight?

00:10:29.000 How is it possible that he trains so hard?

00:10:31.000 I've seen this guy throw out like 130, 155-pound kettlebells, like one-arm swings, like it's nothing.

00:10:38.000 They go, you would lose weight, right?

00:10:39.000 You would think.

00:10:40.000 He would be a 185 pound phenom.

00:10:44.000 Instead, he's a heavyweight.

00:10:45.000 He's a big contender.

00:10:46.000 Maybe it's an implant.

00:10:48.000 In the belly.

00:10:49.000 That he just wants to do that.

00:10:50.000 He calls it a Buddha belly implant. 0.84

00:10:52.000 You can just kick him and he doesn't even feel it.

00:10:54.000 He's wearing a chest pad.

00:10:55.000 Can you imagine if someone did that? 0.99

00:10:57.000 I mean, if girls get fake boobs, let's think about this. 0.96

00:11:00.000 Because girls do get fake boobs and they fight. 1.00

00:11:02.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:11:03.000 You know, girls have got, I don't want to mention any names. 0.59

00:11:05.000 Wink, wink.

00:11:06.000 But we've seen it. 0.64

00:11:07.000 Girls have had no boobs and all of a sudden they had boobs. 1.00

00:11:10.000 You can get fake boobs and still fight. 0.97

00:11:13.000 But what about a fake belly? 0.98

00:11:14.000 What about a guy that says, I just like a belly.

00:11:17.000 I like looking good. 0.50

00:11:18.000 You know, if a guy had a fake belly, I was going to try to see if he could hit it to the back. 0.95

00:11:23.000 So I'd make a hunchback out of him. 1.00

00:11:25.000 See if he can move the belly.

00:11:27.000 Move it all the way to the back.

00:11:27.000 With a hook to the back.

00:11:29.000 Lower back.

00:11:30.000 We never had one like that.

00:11:31.000 Right.

00:11:32.000 You know?

00:11:32.000 I mean, the hunchback from Notre Dame.

00:11:34.000 That's a high.

00:11:35.000 Right.

00:11:36.000 You never saw a hunchback from the bottom. 0.97

00:11:40.000 Right.

00:11:40.000 Like lower back.

00:11:41.000 We can make that.

00:11:42.000 Like a lumbar pad.

00:11:44.000 He can work as a lumberjack.

00:11:48.000 Yeah.

00:11:49.000 He sleeps all night and he works all day.

00:11:51.000 Like, if you look at Roy Nelson, he's like the size of a really good middleweight.

00:11:57.000 Yeah, no, he is.

00:11:58.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:11:58.000 But meanwhile, the guy knocked out Chuck Congo, knocked out Brendan Schaub, knocked out some big fucking heavyweights. 0.98

00:12:05.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:12:06.000 Knocked out Mitrione. 0.99

00:12:07.000 I mean, fucking Roy Nelson knocked out a lot of people, man. 0.99

00:12:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:12:12.000 Stephen Struve, right, also?

00:12:14.000 Did he knock out Stephen Struve?

00:12:15.000 I think it was.

00:12:17.000 I do not remember that fight.

00:12:20.000 And the worst thing is, it's with his right hand.

00:12:23.000 So you would think that people are going to tilt the left up, but somehow he connects anyway.

00:12:29.000 It's like Ronda with the arm bars.

00:12:30.000 You know it's going to happen.

00:12:32.000 You can't stop it.

00:12:33.000 Almost knocked out Overeem.

00:12:34.000 Remember that?

00:12:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:35.000 He hurt Overeem.

00:12:36.000 Yep, Stefan's true.

00:12:37.000 Bam! 0.98

00:12:39.000 Jesus Christ. 0.95

00:12:40.000 Crazy. 0.98

00:12:41.000 Yeah. 0.68

00:12:42.000 I mean, Roy's like six feet tall.

00:12:44.000 Stefan's true, seven feet tall.

00:12:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:12:47.000 I mean, fucking animal. 1.00

00:12:48.000 Roy's an animal. 1.00

00:12:49.000 Honestly, I mean, look at his gut right there.

00:12:52.000 How much is that?

00:12:53.000 He weighs about 250, right?

00:12:56.000 I'm not bullshitting.

00:12:58.000 Yep, there we go.

00:12:59.000 He is 50 pounds overweight.

00:13:02.000 And he's a world-class athlete.

00:13:05.000 I mean, you cannot say that Roy Nelson's not a world-class fighter.

00:13:08.000 He's absolutely a world-class fighter.

00:13:10.000 And he's 50 pounds overweight.

00:13:12.000 So you drop down 50 pounds.

00:13:14.000 Now you're 200 pounds.

00:13:15.000 You make 85. You cut weight.

00:13:17.000 Everybody does that.

00:13:18.000 Cut 15 pounds.

00:13:19.000 You're 85. You're a world champion.

00:13:20.000 You know, there's nothing.

00:13:22.000 Butterbean.

00:13:23.000 You know, we were somewhere.

00:13:24.000 And an athletic commissioner told me from all the boxes on the card, he had actually the best blood pressure and cholesterol.

00:13:31.000 What?

00:13:32.000 For real, he said, we were in shock that the guy is in a phenomenal shape.

00:13:37.000 That's what he told us.

00:13:39.000 That's insane.

00:13:40.000 Butterbean made him look like Yair Rodriguez.

00:13:43.000 Look at him.

00:13:45.000 Jesus Christ.

00:13:46.000 Actually, he looks good there.

00:13:47.000 His whole family looks exactly like that, I hear.

00:13:50.000 Go up a right-hand corner.

00:13:51.000 Yeah, that's what he looks like when he was at his worst.

00:13:53.000 Meanwhile, he's another guy.

00:13:54.000 Knocked dudes dead.

00:13:56.000 Man, he is so funny.

00:13:58.000 I had such a good time with him.

00:13:59.000 And there was Prince George in Kennedy.

00:14:02.000 He was there.

00:14:02.000 He's a player.

00:14:04.000 Is he?

00:14:05.000 Oh, yeah.

00:14:06.000 That's hilarious.

00:14:07.000 Very funny guy.

00:14:09.000 That's funny. 0.99

00:14:09.000 You know, he's a fucking hell of a cook, apparently. 0.99

00:14:14.000 You can't tell. 0.99

00:14:15.000 I was watching a video of Butterbean cooking some ribs, and I was like, damn, that looks legit. 0.97

00:14:22.000 He had a smoker. 0.96

00:14:23.000 He was cooking them in a smoker.

00:14:24.000 He broke the rule, though.

00:14:25.000 Don't get high of your own supply.

00:14:30.000 So tell me about this karate combat thing you're doing.

00:14:33.000 We've seen the videos of it.

00:14:34.000 I like the fighting surface.

00:14:37.000 Fighting in a pit, it's a great idea.

00:14:39.000 Oh, and did you watch it?

00:14:40.000 I mean, what they do with the colors, you know, when it's fighting, it's like a little reddish in the Turks, dark purple, when there's a break, you're going to run up that hill out of the pit, just a little bit.

00:14:49.000 But I like it a lot, yeah, because you can use the wall as well, that 45-angle degree there.

00:14:55.000 To jump up like batters would do.

00:14:57.000 You can use it to improve in the fight.

00:15:01.000 I think it's really great.

00:15:03.000 I think the rules as well, they kept everything on distance.

00:15:06.000 Long shots, long punches.

00:15:08.000 The hooks, the moasi chukis, so they allow hooks. 1.00

00:15:13.000 They wanted to stay away from uppercuts, elbows and knees just before the cutting.

00:15:17.000 And they don't want to make it bloody.

00:15:18.000 So they understand that, you know, everything is technique, of course, but for people who have been complaining, I mix up martial arts, I can't understand the ground, and some other arts out there are too complicated.

00:15:30.000 Well, this has been around for such a long time.

00:15:33.000 Everybody knows karate.

00:15:34.000 If you find out how many people did karate, I mean, when they grew up, look at this.

00:15:39.000 It's a beautiful picture.

00:15:40.000 The way it's filmed as well, if you...

00:15:41.000 The camera, this one camera goes behind the people.

00:15:45.000 It's almost like a movie.

00:15:47.000 The one camera angle they had from above, I said, okay, we've got to stop with that one.

00:15:51.000 That was the only one, but they did.

00:15:52.000 They stopped.

00:15:53.000 And then they have to...

00:15:55.000 The heads-up display, that is also something that nobody had ever before.

00:15:59.000 That environment is perfect.

00:16:01.000 It's like a movie.

00:16:02.000 That's how it should be.

00:16:03.000 That's how MMA should be fought. 1.00

00:16:04.000 It should be fought in an open space.

00:16:06.000 I feel like the cage is too much of a tool.

00:16:10.000 Like, you could use the cage.

00:16:11.000 You pin a guy to the cage, and you could beat him up in the clinch like Randy Couturro used to do.

00:16:15.000 You could use the cage to get back up if somebody takes you down.

00:16:18.000 If you get taken down on this, you get taken down.

00:16:21.000 Like, that's it.

00:16:22.000 You know?

00:16:22.000 You're gonna have to get up with skill, like real skill, to see if you can get up.

00:16:26.000 The only thing about this is if you were in the distance, if it was quite a distance away, it seems like, oh, you could throw guys?

00:16:33.000 You can throw, and then once they hit the ground, you can't clinch, but the person on top who just threw you can rain down strikes for five seconds from a squatted position, so you can't go down there.

00:16:43.000 And I already saw fights getting finished like that, so it's a very effective technique.

00:16:47.000 Why only five seconds?

00:16:48.000 Because then they go back on their feet.

00:16:50.000 They just want to keep everything short.

00:16:51.000 And the more attractive for the audience, the better it is.

00:16:56.000 It's like, for instance, now the knees are not in.

00:16:58.000 But, you know, we were already talking about knees to the body.

00:17:01.000 That may be a really good thing, especially because takedowns are there.

00:17:04.000 So now you can use it against the takedown.

00:17:06.000 Is that a Bitcoin logo?

00:17:07.000 Yes.

00:17:08.000 Bitcoin is one of their sponsors.

00:17:10.000 Really?

00:17:10.000 Yep.

00:17:11.000 Bitcoin blowing up.

00:17:13.000 Now, can they leg kick? 0.99

00:17:14.000 A leg kick below the knee.

00:17:16.000 And I've been talking to them also.

00:17:18.000 This is the good thing about this organization, that's why I really enjoyed working with them, is that they're open to suggestions.

00:17:24.000 They're open to rule changes.

00:17:26.000 We're going to just see what happens right now.

00:17:28.000 And if the urge comes up, they say, yeah, we should add low kicks, then we're going to start adding low kicks above the knee as well.

00:17:33.000 Right now, they do it below the knee, just like they do it in the UFC as well.

00:17:37.000 Well, the UFC has everything.

00:17:39.000 But I mean, we see it a lot in the UFC happening now.

00:17:42.000 Because actually, they break the bones, right?

00:17:44.000 The fibula, that will snap.

00:17:47.000 And with a low kick, that won't happen.

00:17:49.000 It will just jam your leg. 0.92

00:17:50.000 Yeah.

00:17:51.000 Well, also, you can't condition the lower leg the same way you can condition the upper leg.

00:17:55.000 Your upper leg gets used to taking a beating, and some guys can just take low kicks.

00:17:59.000 But not that low calf kick is debilitating.

00:18:02.000 It's annoying, especially if you do it just after a front kick.

00:18:05.000 Somebody gives you a front kick, you tap it to the side and you immediately kick it so when the muscle is still relaxed, it'll go straight through.

00:18:12.000 That's when something breaks, if you can't flex.

00:18:15.000 Yeah, we've seen over the last few years, that's a devastating technique.

00:18:19.000 Now, are they wearing shin pads?

00:18:21.000 No, no shin pads.

00:18:22.000 Only these tiny gloves.

00:18:23.000 You have them there in the back so you can check them out.

00:18:26.000 With the low kicks.

00:18:27.000 There's all been knockouts by strikes.

00:18:29.000 I like the takedowns as well.

00:18:31.000 That heads-up display.

00:18:33.000 It's really cool right now.

00:18:34.000 It's the first one, whoever does that.

00:18:36.000 It's biometric, nutrition, training.

00:18:38.000 You know, it's a DNA-based...

00:18:41.000 A heads-up display that you can see while the fighters are busy.

00:18:45.000 You get a heart rate, respiratory, what they eat, what they train before.

00:18:48.000 It's all going to start happening in two weeks.

00:18:50.000 It will become full circle, and then the heads display will work.

00:18:53.000 What is the biometric?

00:18:54.000 Like, when does that work?

00:18:55.000 Are they wearing something?

00:18:56.000 They wear these little tiny things so you can see how fast they hit and what direction they hit, propelling.

00:19:02.000 You can pretty much see everything.

00:19:03.000 It's amazing.

00:19:04.000 And these gloves are awesome.

00:19:05.000 I mean, they feel great.

00:19:07.000 They do feel great.

00:19:08.000 Yep.

00:19:09.000 Yeah, there's a lot of padding.

00:19:11.000 Yep.

00:19:11.000 That's pretty padded.

00:19:12.000 It's much more than a UFC glove, huh?

00:19:14.000 It is, but it's all...

00:19:15.000 Well, you know what else, too?

00:19:16.000 It seems like it gives you a curve to your hand.

00:19:18.000 Which is great.

00:19:19.000 Which is an issue with the UFC, is the constant poking.

00:19:22.000 Like, if you want to poke someone in the eye with this, you've got to kind of...

00:19:25.000 It's like the pride gloves, right? 0.56

00:19:26.000 Yep.

00:19:26.000 The pride gloves used to have that curve to them, and we saw much less eye pokes in pride than we do in the UFC. You know, but I never got that anyway.

00:19:34.000 In Pancras, we just open-hand strikes, I never poked anybody in the head, right?

00:19:37.000 Right, right.

00:19:37.000 So, sometimes you have to think, is this on purpose or not?

00:19:40.000 For sure, some of it's on purpose, right?

00:19:42.000 It's hard to differentiate how much of it is on purpose.

00:19:45.000 It really is, you know?

00:19:47.000 I said it with Jon Jones at the time, but he is...

00:19:49.000 So calm, so relaxed, so everything.

00:19:51.000 And then I go like, that almost has to be then.

00:19:54.000 Yeah, I know.

00:19:55.000 You've said that before.

00:19:56.000 I should have worn that thing, right?

00:19:57.000 That's what you were going to say?

00:19:58.000 I broke my hand. 0.96

00:20:00.000 You could punch something pretty hard with this.

00:20:02.000 I mean, these are great pads.

00:20:06.000 Man, this is almost like a boxing glove.

00:20:08.000 It's like a small amount of boxing glove.

00:20:10.000 It's like it doesn't cover the whole area, but this is the same kind of pad.

00:20:15.000 As you see, the side cut, the tzuki, you know, Mawashi tzuki, and you hit that officially with the side.

00:20:23.000 What are you calling it?

00:20:23.000 Mawashi tzuki.

00:20:24.000 Mawashi is roundhouse, and the tzuki is a punch, so it comes from the side.

00:20:28.000 It's a roundhouse punch.

00:20:29.000 It's a long hook.

00:20:30.000 Right.

00:20:31.000 How'd you say that?

00:20:31.000 But this is more like a ridge hand, right?

00:20:33.000 Close line, yeah, yeah.

00:20:34.000 Close line, ridge hand, yeah.

00:20:35.000 Right, so you're not punching with the knuckles, you're hitting with this part of your hand?

00:20:38.000 Yeah, with that part of the hand.

00:20:40.000 Like by the thumb bone.

00:20:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:20:41.000 That's a good way to bust your shit up. 1.00

00:20:43.000 I know, but that's why, you know, they keep it long and they make sure that you see the technique. 0.98

00:20:48.000 Once you start doing short hooks, then it's going to be a different story.

00:20:50.000 You're going to have very close, you're going to have knees, and people are going to be confused again.

00:20:54.000 Wait a minute, you can't throw hooks?

00:20:55.000 You can't throw hooks?

00:20:56.000 Long hooks.

00:20:57.000 What does that mean?

00:20:58.000 Like, if you're in close, you can't throw a short hook?

00:21:00.000 No, not for the close distance.

00:21:02.000 But then, think about this.

00:21:03.000 Now, your close distance, you're going to have to remove yourself away.

00:21:06.000 It's like a combination I always tell my students, right uppercut, right straight.

00:21:10.000 Or right uppercut, right straight to the body. 0.65

00:21:12.000 If I give a right uppercut, I'm too close for the right straight.

00:21:14.000 But then, look, I step backwards with my right.

00:21:17.000 And by the way, I create distance.

00:21:20.000 Yeah, but why limit punches?

00:21:21.000 That seems silly.

00:21:22.000 Because they want to keep it as close to karate as possible.

00:21:26.000 And as clean as possible.

00:21:28.000 I get it, but a left hook, like a tight hook if a guy's right there, and bam! 0.99

00:21:33.000 Yeah, but then they say you could also throw a left elbow, you know, and they took that out as well.

00:21:37.000 Yeah, so I think this is one of these things that you're simply going to have to get used to.

00:21:42.000 And think about it, with a fighter, it's more difficult for a fighter.

00:21:46.000 But what do you do if a guy hits a guy with a short hook and knocks him out?

00:21:50.000 I have no clue.

00:21:51.000 Then the referee is going to step in.

00:21:52.000 Well, if it's intentionally, of course, that's a problem.

00:21:54.000 He's going to lose.

00:21:56.000 How can you make someone lose from a short hook?

00:21:58.000 That seems crazy.

00:21:59.000 Well, all the fights that they had, all the fights that they had before, now already, none of it happened.

00:22:05.000 So I think they're pretty close.

00:22:07.000 I think in the rules meeting, they have a guy who's repeating it like three, four, five times in a row.

00:22:11.000 They do not do that.

00:22:13.000 And plus, these guys are karate practitioners.

00:22:15.000 See?

00:22:16.000 So they're not even used to it.

00:22:17.000 Yeah, but if they're karate practitioners in 2018, they know how to punch.

00:22:22.000 Nobody's just karate anymore.

00:22:24.000 I mean, everybody knows how to throw hooks and uppercuts.

00:22:26.000 But I think these rules are the closest rules to the 2020 Olympics.

00:22:30.000 It's going to happen in Tokyo as well, right?

00:22:32.000 Karate is going to come back in the Olympics.

00:22:34.000 Is it?

00:22:35.000 In the 2020, yeah, in Tokyo.

00:22:36.000 Really?

00:22:37.000 Oh, because it's in Tokyo.

00:22:38.000 What kind of karate?

00:22:39.000 Like Kyokushin?

00:22:40.000 It's probably Shotokan, right?

00:22:42.000 That's the oldest form I would say.

00:22:43.000 On Okinawa it started there.

00:22:45.000 But that would be below the neck then. 0.71

00:22:49.000 Like you can kick to the head, but you can't punch the face.

00:22:51.000 We're going to have to really figure out those.

00:22:53.000 But that's why I love it.

00:22:54.000 With the gloves, they're probably going to be allowed to hit the face.

00:22:57.000 Right, but not in the Olympics, right?

00:22:59.000 I don't know.

00:23:00.000 I don't know about that yet.

00:23:01.000 Yeah, because Taekwondo, they took it out as well, right?

00:23:04.000 And you're going to have the headgear in boxing.

00:23:05.000 Now, it's optional now, for what I believe.

00:23:08.000 Yeah.

00:23:09.000 Well, if it's the same glove, if they make it the same weight, why would they?

00:23:13.000 Are they willing to listen to you?

00:23:15.000 Yes, they will.

00:23:15.000 Talk to these people.

00:23:16.000 Oh, no, I'm already talking to them.

00:23:17.000 That's the greatest thing.

00:23:18.000 Why does your phone keep flashing?

00:23:19.000 I'm a very popular guy.

00:23:20.000 I think the people are constantly...

00:23:22.000 Every time you get a text, your phone flashes, like the light flashes?

00:23:26.000 Oh, I do that on the back because many times I have my phone like this, right?

00:23:31.000 And now I can't hear it, but I can see it.

00:23:34.000 Now a big light flash comes.

00:23:36.000 Text me.

00:23:36.000 Text me and see what happens.

00:23:38.000 I do that on purpose.

00:23:39.000 I keep my phone flat on purpose. 0.99

00:23:41.000 Like, leave me the fuck alone. 0.97

00:23:43.000 I don't want to look at my phone every five seconds because it's flashing. 0.99

00:23:47.000 Yeah, and oh, and by the way, you see, that's why I'm looking.

00:23:49.000 Hooks aren't penalties anymore.

00:23:51.000 Oh, so they changed it.

00:23:53.000 Yeah.

00:23:53.000 Thank you.

00:23:53.000 Thank you very much!

00:23:55.000 Because that seems silly.

00:23:56.000 Yeah.

00:23:56.000 You should be able to hook somebody.

00:23:58.000 Just, I mean, it's a great punch.

00:24:00.000 I understand if you want to eliminate elbows.

00:24:02.000 Glory took out elbows. 1.00

00:24:04.000 You know, Bellator doesn't have elbows.

00:24:06.000 Bellator kickboxing, rather.

00:24:07.000 But I think punches should be punches.

00:24:10.000 You know, any way you want to punch.

00:24:12.000 Yeah, well, back fist, everything.

00:24:14.000 You can throw everything.

00:24:14.000 And you can do flying as well.

00:24:15.000 All the kicks are allowed.

00:24:16.000 You can also, except for the low kick to the thigh, but for the rest, every kick, every jumping kick, everything.

00:24:21.000 You know, but that's, again, me talking, and we're going to see...

00:24:26.000 What this is going to.

00:24:27.000 They'll listen to you, boss.

00:24:28.000 They got you.

00:24:29.000 Fighters are going to love it.

00:24:31.000 Come on.

00:24:31.000 You're Dutch.

00:24:32.000 How do they not have low kicks?

00:24:34.000 If you're in Dutch, you're in much. 1.00

00:24:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:36.000 That was the reason a lot of Dutch guys won.

00:24:38.000 Remember all the way back here in the kickboxing? 0.99

00:24:40.000 Fuck yeah. 0.99

00:24:41.000 Ramon Deckers, Rob Kamen. 1.00

00:24:43.000 Rob Kamen. 1.00

00:24:44.000 Goddamn, man. 0.99

00:24:44.000 Against Yves Terriol. 0.99

00:24:45.000 Remember that fight?

00:24:46.000 Yeah, man.

00:24:47.000 Low kicks.

00:24:47.000 Yeah, those were the guys.

00:24:49.000 Yeah.

00:24:50.000 So, yeah, man.

00:24:51.000 I'm looking forward to it.

00:24:52.000 If you're...

00:24:55.000 Nowhere, what is it, April 26th in Miami, they have the first show.

00:24:59.000 I'm pretty sure they will invite.

00:25:00.000 I am out of town, unfortunately.

00:25:01.000 April 26th in Miami, huh?

00:25:02.000 That's the first show in America?

00:25:04.000 Where were these other ones filmed?

00:25:06.000 Overseas.

00:25:06.000 They do it everywhere.

00:25:08.000 This will be the first show.

00:25:09.000 It's free, guys.

00:25:10.000 So do that as well.

00:25:11.000 Also, what you can do, free.

00:25:12.000 Free to watch?

00:25:13.000 Free to watch.

00:25:14.000 To be there or to watch it on television?

00:25:16.000 You go to karate.com.

00:25:18.000 There's a button where you can click Watch It Live.

00:25:20.000 It's going to be streamed, but you also have an app.

00:25:23.000 They have a really cool app because that app gives you the heads-up display.

00:25:26.000 You see that right at the top?

00:25:28.000 Watch Live.

00:25:29.000 Boom.

00:25:29.000 That's where you click.

00:25:30.000 Sign up for free streaming access to our next event.

00:25:33.000 Don't have to do anything.

00:25:35.000 Nice.

00:25:36.000 So, who's putting this together?

00:25:38.000 How do you know these people?

00:25:39.000 Well, they contacted me.

00:25:41.000 There's a whole bunch of guys together, a lot of karate experts as well.

00:25:45.000 And I think they're side with the 2020 Olympics.

00:25:49.000 And I've been talking about this also for a while.

00:25:51.000 I said, why is not anybody doing this?

00:25:53.000 We had Chuck Norris doing it, right?

00:25:55.000 Right, World Combat League.

00:25:56.000 And I thought that was cool.

00:25:58.000 And now this, when I saw this with the pit, I go, man, I truly believe it's going to take off.

00:26:02.000 I think a lot of people are going to enjoy this.

00:26:04.000 Well, I hope so. 0.99

00:26:04.000 I mean, I've been saying for the longest time that striking sports in America, like you got boxing and then nobody pays attention to the other shit. 0.99

00:26:11.000 I mean, people barely pay attention to kickboxing. 0.99

00:26:14.000 Yep.

00:26:14.000 It's just not nearly as popular.

00:26:16.000 It doesn't, especially to me, I'm a giant fan of Muay Thai.

00:26:19.000 I mean, I love watching Muay Thai and I never understood why Muay Thai wasn't more successful in the United States.

00:26:25.000 I know Lion Fight had some good traction and they were doing pretty well, but I don't think they're on AXS TV anymore.

00:26:32.000 They stopped.

00:26:33.000 The people are asking for it.

00:26:36.000 Every time.

00:26:37.000 They're complaining about mixed martial arts.

00:26:39.000 A lot of people don't understand what's going on on the ground.

00:26:42.000 Now we finally have something.

00:26:44.000 Thai boxing.

00:26:45.000 And they're not watching it.

00:26:46.000 Glory has the best fighters on the planet.

00:26:49.000 It's an unbelievable show.

00:26:52.000 But not enough people watch it.

00:26:53.000 Well, it's not mainstream enough in terms of, like, its exposure.

00:26:58.000 I mean, you get it on UFC Fight Pass, which is amazing, and then you get it on ESPN3, which is only online, and sometimes ESPN2. But, you know, I think, I mean, you look, Rico Verhoeven, and you see Jamal Ben Sadiq, that fight, holy shit! 0.91

00:27:12.000 And he said he was going to do it like that, right at the end. 0.97

00:27:15.000 And Ben Sadiq caught him, too, early.

00:27:17.000 And Ben Sadiq had knocked him out six years ago. 0.98

00:27:19.000 That was a fucking amazing fight. 0.99

00:27:21.000 If that was on television, that fight was on TV, in the end when Rico's pouring it on and Ben Sadiq collapses in the ropes, I mean, and they're big, giant fucking guys. 0.99

00:27:29.000 I mean, that was an amazing fight. 0.96

00:27:31.000 Rico is incredible.

00:27:33.000 His cardio for a giant guy, you know, for a big 250 pound guy.

00:27:37.000 And his technique and his distances, his ring strategy, everything.

00:27:40.000 He's the complete guy.

00:27:42.000 And he's a young guy.

00:27:43.000 Super smart also.

00:27:44.000 Isn't he like 29?

00:27:46.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:27:47.000 It's like Conor, right?

00:27:48.000 Conor's 29 as well.

00:27:49.000 Yeah, so...

00:27:50.000 I mean, he's got a long future ahead of him.

00:27:53.000 Think of the amount of experience he has already.

00:27:55.000 Pull up Rico Verhoeven, glory heavyweight champion.

00:27:59.000 See how old he is.

00:28:00.000 I think he just had a birthday.

00:28:02.000 I think he turned 29. He's a fucking beast, man. 1.00

00:28:06.000 Was it? 1.00

00:28:07.000 Today he turns 29. Happy birthday, Rico!

00:28:11.000 Yeah, I just don't understand.

00:28:12.000 I really don't understand.

00:28:14.000 I don't understand why that's not more popular.

00:28:18.000 It's keeping it simple.

00:28:20.000 And this now, even, you take the knees out, keep it a little bit more separate so that people can see the technique better.

00:28:25.000 It's not better technique.

00:28:26.000 You can see the technique better.

00:28:28.000 I think we'll do a lot of good.

00:28:29.000 Also, a lot of kids, when they say, hey, mom, I want to watch Mixed Martial Arts.

00:28:34.000 When you're a very young kid, I don't think the parents are going to allow that.

00:28:37.000 There's still that little...

00:28:38.000 You know, they don't know.

00:28:39.000 Karate?

00:28:40.000 Oh, please, go.

00:28:41.000 Watch. 1.00

00:28:41.000 Did you see this crazy shit? 1.00

00:28:43.000 They're talking about Conor McGregor fighting Floyd Mayweather with no shoes on, in an MMA cage, with MMA gloves. 0.99

00:28:50.000 You can clinch, but no takedowns, no knees, no elbows, no kicks, no submissions.

00:28:56.000 But clinch.

00:28:59.000 You can clinch.

00:29:00.000 You can fight from the clinch.

00:29:02.000 Yeah, but, you know, Mayweather is an animal there also.

00:29:06.000 Yeah.

00:29:06.000 But still, come on, let a kick, one kick be illegal.

00:29:10.000 A kick would end it.

00:29:11.000 If he had kicks, that would be the difference.

00:29:13.000 That's it!

00:29:14.000 But Conor, even fighting from the clinch, you could tie him up, you could tie him up and hold on to him and hit him like Randy Couture style.

00:29:22.000 You remember when Shane Carwin fought Frank Mir and tied him up and just obliterated him with uppercuts?

00:29:30.000 Just boom, boom! 0.83

00:29:32.000 Shane was a monster. 0.99

00:29:34.000 But then again, he chooses to stand there. 0.88

00:29:36.000 I don't think that Mayweather is going to choose to stand there.

00:29:39.000 He won't have a choice.

00:29:39.000 If he gets grabbed, he pops out.

00:29:40.000 He won't have a choice if he grabs him.

00:29:42.000 It's not like he pulls him to the knee and gets kneed in the face.

00:29:44.000 But he can clinch with him.

00:29:46.000 If he can clinch with them, and they're standing on the outside, and Conor can grab ahold of him, how is Mayweather going to shake him off?

00:29:52.000 He's not going to.

00:29:53.000 If Conor decides to just wrap ahold of one of his arms, just get him in an overhook, and just start punching him in the face... 1.00

00:30:00.000 Floyd's fucked. 1.00

00:30:01.000 His whole thing is boxing. 1.00

00:30:03.000 His whole thing is boxing moves.

00:30:05.000 His shoulder rolls, moves.

00:30:07.000 He's not going to be able to stop Conor from grabbing him.

00:30:09.000 Conor's a bigger, stronger guy if he grabs Floyd by the back of the neck and holds him in place and punches him in the face. 1.00

00:30:16.000 Floyd's fucked. 0.99

00:30:17.000 I don't think he understands when you say the clinch is okay. 1.00

00:30:20.000 If you could strike from the clinch... 1.00

00:30:22.000 He's fucked. 1.00

00:30:23.000 I'll put my money on Conor all day if he can strike from the clinch. 1.00

00:30:27.000 Now, if they just have an MMA fight with boxing gloves, or a boxing fight with MMA gloves, rather, that is a different thing.

00:30:35.000 That's a different animal, and I think Floyd's just so much better than him.

00:30:37.000 That's what I thought that you meant.

00:30:39.000 No, no, no.

00:30:40.000 I mean, clinching.

00:30:41.000 What I read, the only difference, they're not going to let him kick, they're not going to let him punch, they're not going to let him elbow or knee or takedown or submissions, but they'll let him clinch.

00:30:51.000 And punch from the clinch.

00:30:52.000 Just that alone.

00:30:54.000 That's a game changer.

00:30:55.000 Just that alone.

00:30:56.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:30:57.000 I'm going to have to see that.

00:30:58.000 Because, you know, Floyd's going to know.

00:30:59.000 They're going to work on that as well.

00:31:01.000 He's going to work on those defenses.

00:31:02.000 He's an incredible athlete.

00:31:04.000 I mean, there's only a few things.

00:31:05.000 This is not like he's going to have to learn the whole game.

00:31:07.000 Yeah, but holding on to someone and punching them is such a different, it's just a completely different chapter.

00:31:14.000 Yeah, but as soon as you hold on to somebody, that means you incapacitated your own arm as well.

00:31:18.000 You don't have the defense there as well.

00:31:19.000 So Mayweather can start attacking him.

00:31:21.000 Also, it's a one-hand fight.

00:31:23.000 It's literally ice hockey, right?

00:31:26.000 If you think about it.

00:31:27.000 It's a grap and they start hitting each other.

00:31:28.000 Sort of, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:30.000 But smaller gloves.

00:31:31.000 Connor will have more impact with his punches.

00:31:33.000 That's true.

00:31:34.000 And he's so much more used to fighting from the clinch like that, where you can hold and hit at the same time.

00:31:40.000 I'm interested in that fight.

00:31:42.000 What about foot stomps?

00:31:45.000 You know what, that's what last time I heard somebody say, the always super effective foot stomp.

00:31:49.000 So give me one fight that ever got stopped with a foot stomp.

00:31:52.000 Never.

00:31:52.000 Ever!

00:31:53.000 It's annoying.

00:31:54.000 It's annoying.

00:31:55.000 Have you ever fought where somebody foot stomped you?

00:31:57.000 No.

00:31:58.000 Never?

00:31:58.000 No, never.

00:31:58.000 Did you ever foot stomp anybody?

00:32:00.000 No, no.

00:32:01.000 I think I'm one of those guys who would do it back and that's why they didn't do it.

00:32:06.000 Marco Huas was like the first guy to introduce that, wasn't he?

00:32:09.000 Yeah, you did that, yeah.

00:32:10.000 Yeah, Marco.

00:32:11.000 You got a bunch of notes here, man.

00:32:13.000 Yeah, I know I do.

00:32:14.000 I just spread it out.

00:32:14.000 You're very serious.

00:32:14.000 This is one of my pet things.

00:32:17.000 I'm throwing it out.

00:32:18.000 Because, you know, going back to karate and reading about it, get all the terms back.

00:32:25.000 That's, you know, so that's why I'm going here.

00:32:27.000 Like the marshy gears.

00:32:28.000 We knew that a world was a gear suit What Toby or am I was a gear all those kicks you see but you should know this and you know this you just That's what I want no background.

00:32:36.000 Oh, that's you get the Jackie's Yeah, yeah, we got the Jackie's we got the Gary's again Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:47.000 So, how many events are they going to do a year of this?

00:32:50.000 It's a whole bunch.

00:32:51.000 They're going to spread them out all over the place. 0.55

00:32:52.000 For the people, what I would say, it's just karate.com.

00:32:56.000 What a great domain name, by the way, as well.

00:32:58.000 Yeah, how do they get that?

00:32:59.000 Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. 0.99

00:33:01.000 That must have been expensive as fuck. 0.99

00:33:02.000 I think so, too. 0.99

00:33:03.000 But they have it.

00:33:04.000 Go there for all your favorite fighters.

00:33:06.000 Check it out.

00:33:08.000 Karate.com.

00:33:09.000 Karate.com.

00:33:10.000 Yeah, that's a big one.

00:33:10.000 That's a big thing to have.

00:33:12.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00

00:33:13.000 Holy shit! 1.00

00:33:14.000 Who the fuck owns Jujitsu.com? 1.00

00:33:17.000 Jujitsu.com. 0.99

00:33:18.000 What a website that must be.

00:33:20.000 To own that?

00:33:22.000 Yeah, well, I think there's other ones out there that give you even more.

00:33:26.000 You know?

00:33:26.000 Nakedgirls.com.

00:33:27.000 That gives you a lot of money.

00:33:28.000 That's a lot of money.

00:33:29.000 Way more than karate.com, I think.

00:33:31.000 Like sex.com. 0.68

00:33:32.000 Oh, that's crazy.

00:33:33.000 Don't even click on it. 0.98

00:33:34.000 You'll get a bunch of pop-ups and viruses and shit. 0.96

00:33:37.000 A friend of mine does that. 0.91

00:33:38.000 What is this, Jamie?

00:33:39.000 Makeup.com sold for $2 million.

00:33:42.000 Rodeo.com and Karate.com for $500,000 total.

00:33:46.000 My body bought nude.com for $2 million.

00:33:49.000 Three weeks later, sold it for AIDS. Damn. 1.00

00:33:52.000 Three weeks. 1.00

00:33:53.000 That's what he does.

00:33:54.000 Buying domain names.

00:33:56.000 Smart.

00:33:56.000 Yeah.

00:33:56.000 Smart.

00:33:57.000 Can you imagine go back in time?

00:33:59.000 Oh, my God.

00:34:00.000 He started writing all the domain names down. 0.99

00:34:02.000 Yeah, nobody even saw any of this shit coming. 0.98

00:34:04.000 Didn't business.com go for like $10 million? 1.00

00:34:06.000 Something crazy? 0.99

00:34:08.000 Meanwhile, who the fuck is going to business.com? 1.00

00:34:10.000 I wouldn't give you a nickel for that shit. 1.00

00:34:12.000 Who the fuck's going to business.com? 1.00

00:34:14.000 What are you doing there? 0.99

00:34:15.000 I'm gonna do business. 1.00

00:34:16.000 That's stupid. 1.00

00:34:17.000 If you're doing business, you don't go looking at business.com. 1.00

00:34:20.000 That doesn't even make any sense. 1.00

00:34:22.000 That's a worthless fucking domain. 1.00

00:34:23.000 I bet that's a ghost town. 1.00

00:34:25.000 I bet no one's going to business.com.

00:34:28.000 Business.com.

00:34:29.000 What is it?

00:34:29.000 Know your business.

00:34:30.000 We have something going on here.

00:34:30.000 Grow your business.

00:34:31.000 Fuck off. 1.00

00:34:32.000 Do it different. 1.00

00:34:33.000 Do B-U-Z-N-I-S. Yeah, even then. 0.98

00:34:36.000 Business.

00:34:37.000 Oh, no one's going to that.

00:34:38.000 You go to that, it's a porn site. 0.74

00:34:39.000 You can't spell. 1.00

00:34:40.000 Yeah, you're an idiot. 1.00

00:34:41.000 Triple X. You go to that. 1.00

00:34:43.000 That's a Nigerian scammer telling you you've won a bunch of money and it starts glowing up. 1.00

00:34:48.000 You get a telephone call.

00:34:50.000 Exactly.

00:34:51.000 Yeah.

00:34:52.000 So where did this originate?

00:34:54.000 What country started this?

00:34:56.000 Well, karate of Japan.

00:34:58.000 No, no, no.

00:34:58.000 I mean this event.

00:34:59.000 No clue.

00:35:00.000 I'm going to meet these people face to face.

00:35:02.000 You've never met them?

00:35:03.000 No, no, no.

00:35:03.000 Because I've been doing commentary and I met some people from the organization because I did some commentary over some fights together with Phoenix Carnevale.

00:35:11.000 She's great.

00:35:12.000 She was doing a lot of stuff for Lion Fight.

00:35:15.000 I met her and her boyfriend in New York.

00:35:18.000 Not this last UFC in New York, but in the past.

00:35:22.000 I got her tickets for the UFC. She's excellent.

00:35:26.000 Really good at post-fight interviews.

00:35:29.000 She's doing commentary with you.

00:35:30.000 Yes.

00:35:30.000 Perfect.

00:35:31.000 She's very knowledgeable.

00:35:33.000 Yeah, no, it was great.

00:35:34.000 And we pulled it off right away, so that's why we met these people there.

00:35:37.000 We did it in Long Island when I was filming there.

00:35:39.000 Nice.

00:35:40.000 And so there was an event in Long Island as well?

00:35:44.000 No, no, no.

00:35:45.000 We just did it in my hotel.

00:35:46.000 So you did commentary like watching it on screen?

00:35:49.000 Is that what it was?

00:35:49.000 Watching it on screen.

00:35:50.000 Had some people coming in with special microphones, so we tuned it up, you know, then it was exactly the same.

00:35:54.000 You did that a bunch of times for Pride, right?

00:35:56.000 Where you were in America and you were doing commentary for events that were happening in Japan?

00:36:00.000 Yeah, and we do the commentary right over it, live.

00:36:04.000 What was that like?

00:36:05.000 It was weird?

00:36:06.000 No, it's not weird at all.

00:36:07.000 But I hope that the speed was up, you know, because if you see an armbar coming, that I never knew.

00:36:12.000 I never re-watched it again to say, you know, when an armbar is happening, I say, he's setting up an armbar, you know?

00:36:17.000 If that delay is five seconds or ten seconds, yeah, you have a problem.

00:36:20.000 But I don't think it is, because they stream it out, they shoot it out.

00:36:24.000 From the studio.

00:36:25.000 So it's like you're watching the fights live.

00:36:26.000 That's it.

00:36:27.000 Wasn't there some that you guys did where the fights had already happened and you knew the results?

00:36:32.000 Oh, I did that with Stephen Quadros.

00:36:34.000 We did the first 10, I believe, Pride shows.

00:36:36.000 You know, before 2000, it wasn't sent out on pay-per-view.

00:36:40.000 Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:41.000 So they asked us to do those shows.

00:36:43.000 Man, I remember sitting there in Holland.

00:36:46.000 We were sitting with Red Bull.

00:36:48.000 We had Stack.

00:36:49.000 Remember those pills?

00:36:50.000 Oh, yeah.

00:36:51.000 Jesus Christ.

00:36:53.000 We were like, shh!

00:36:54.000 Heart attack pills.

00:36:55.000 Oh, it was so funny.

00:36:57.000 Quattro's got so crazy.

00:36:58.000 He's so hilarious when he gets in his zone, you know?

00:37:01.000 He started suddenly, I'm watching a fight, and I hear...

00:37:06.000 And I look to the side, he's eating a green apple in front of the microphone.

00:37:11.000 No, but this is eight hours in, right?

00:37:13.000 We're watching really boring stuff also.

00:37:16.000 Oh, this was, by the way, this was not Pride.

00:37:18.000 We did Pride, but then we did, on top of that, we did another one as well.

00:37:22.000 Pride we did here.

00:37:23.000 That's what we did here in America with Bud Brutsman.

00:37:27.000 And the other show we did in Holland with all these old, crazy Russian guys who had like an A and an E and a name and the rest was V-P-S-T-R-M-Z. You know, I mean, I would call them the guy with the red hair or the guy with the red pants because I couldn't pronounce their names. 1.00

00:37:43.000 Yeah, there's some guys in the UFC that when I read their names at the weigh-ins, I have to pause and try to put it together, like some of them.

00:37:52.000 It's hard.

00:37:53.000 And you don't want to butcher them.

00:37:54.000 And then you have these guys, like the fans, right?

00:37:57.000 They say, oh, you butchered so-and-so's name.

00:37:59.000 I say, what do you say?

00:38:01.000 Bas Rutten?

00:38:01.000 Yeah, you just butchered my name.

00:38:02.000 It's Bas Rutten.

00:38:04.000 It's not Rutten.

00:38:04.000 Is that how you're supposed to say it?

00:38:05.000 Yeah, it's not Ernesto Hoost.

00:38:06.000 It's Ernesto Hoost.

00:38:08.000 It's Pieter Achts.

00:38:09.000 It's not Pieter Ertz.

00:38:10.000 You know, you see, I mean, if you really want to start, we asked Fedor one time, what does your mother call you?

00:38:15.000 He says, Fyodor.

00:38:16.000 I said, we call you Fyodor. 0.99

00:38:17.000 We did that on Pride.

00:38:19.000 Everybody, you're butchering his name.

00:38:21.000 His mom calls him like that.

00:38:22.000 That's what we asked.

00:38:23.000 Well, Mauro was the only one that would call him that.

00:38:25.000 Mauro always called him Fyodor.

00:38:27.000 Fyodor is...

00:38:28.000 Morrow is very precise with that kind of stuff.

00:38:31.000 Yes.

00:38:31.000 Morrow's excellent.

00:38:32.000 Yeah.

00:38:32.000 Yeah, he really is.

00:38:33.000 He's great at that.

00:38:34.000 It's so nice to see him doing all those big-time boxing matches, too.

00:38:37.000 Yeah.

00:38:37.000 You know?

00:38:38.000 He's a good guy.

00:38:39.000 That guy, if you sit next to him, it's...

00:38:42.000 When people say, oh, it's fake as this, trust me, it's...

00:38:46.000 That's what they say.

00:38:47.000 That is how he talks, Boss Rutan!

00:38:48.000 Oh, he gets in his own bubble, and then, you know, if I look at him, I can put my hand in front of his face.

00:38:53.000 If he's in the zone, he doesn't see anything.

00:38:55.000 He only sees the fight, and he's going to town.

00:38:57.000 And everybody steps away and just looks at him.

00:39:00.000 No, he's designed for it.

00:39:01.000 He's designed for that.

00:39:02.000 Love it.

00:39:03.000 He's doing WWE, too, right? 0.65

00:39:05.000 Yeah, he's insane.

00:39:05.000 He does everything.

00:39:06.000 So he does WWE, he's doing Showtime boxing.

00:39:09.000 Does he do any MMA anymore?

00:39:11.000 Oh no, the Bellator...

00:39:13.000 Does he still do that?

00:39:14.000 I believe he did.

00:39:14.000 I know Goldberg does a lot of the Bellators now.

00:39:16.000 So he does some of the Bellators?

00:39:18.000 I think so.

00:39:19.000 I think the big shows probably.

00:39:21.000 Because a lot of them Goldberg's doing now.

00:39:23.000 Yeah.

00:39:24.000 Yeah, they got a whole crazy team there.

00:39:26.000 And Jimmy is over at the UFC. Jimmy's with us now.

00:39:28.000 I got him a gig at the UFC. Nice!

00:39:31.000 Yeah, we worked together for the first time this Saturday night.

00:39:33.000 It was great.

00:39:34.000 Yeah, good.

00:39:34.000 He's a good guy.

00:39:35.000 He's a great guy. 0.99

00:39:36.000 He's fucking excellent. 0.97

00:39:37.000 He's an excellent commentator. 0.98

00:39:38.000 I tried to get the UFC to hire him four years ago.

00:39:41.000 So for me to be there Saturday night sitting next to Jimmy, I was like, look at this, man.

00:39:46.000 We're hugging.

00:39:46.000 We did it!

00:39:47.000 We made it happen.

00:39:48.000 That is so cool, huh?

00:39:48.000 Here we are.

00:39:49.000 It was perfect, too.

00:39:50.000 Because we're friends.

00:39:52.000 It's very easy.

00:39:53.000 The commentary flowed.

00:39:55.000 Very nice together.

00:39:56.000 You know, we had a good time.

00:39:57.000 That's what happened also with me and Mauro.

00:39:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:00.000 You know, there's his friends and you try it out.

00:40:02.000 It's the best.

00:40:03.000 And then it's just a conversation.

00:40:04.000 Right.

00:40:05.000 Well, that's why me and Goldberg worked so well for so long.

00:40:07.000 Because we're so tight.

00:40:08.000 It's so easy.

00:40:09.000 So easy.

00:40:10.000 But whatever.

00:40:11.000 The UFC and him didn't see eye to eye for whatever reason.

00:40:15.000 It's a bummer.

00:40:16.000 Yeah.

00:40:16.000 But I love Anik too.

00:40:17.000 Anik's a great guy.

00:40:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:19.000 There's a lot of good guys.

00:40:20.000 And what the fans should know is that a play-by-play guy doesn't need to know everything.

00:40:26.000 He doesn't need to know the techniques.

00:40:27.000 That's why we are the experts, the caller guys.

00:40:30.000 Yeah.

00:40:30.000 Because I have so many people that say, oh, why don't you take Goldberg's place?

00:40:34.000 They say, I'm a play-by-play.

00:40:35.000 I'm a caller guy.

00:40:36.000 He's a play-by-play.

00:40:37.000 He's a complete different animal.

00:40:38.000 That's a hard gig.

00:40:40.000 Yeah, especially for TV. Yeah.

00:40:41.000 If you've got to go to commercials and do all that kind of stuff, it's much harder.

00:40:45.000 Anik and Goldberg, those guys are wizards at that stuff.

00:40:48.000 That is a hard job.

00:40:49.000 It's way harder than our job.

00:40:51.000 Our job of doing color, We see the fight.

00:40:54.000 We call it.

00:40:55.000 We already do it.

00:40:56.000 And we've been doing martial arts our whole life.

00:40:57.000 We know what's happening.

00:40:59.000 So we see it.

00:41:00.000 We go, oh, that's a roundhouse kick. 0.98

00:41:01.000 Oh, he's going to get the triangle.

00:41:02.000 Oh, he's getting out.

00:41:04.000 He's free.

00:41:04.000 He's out.

00:41:05.000 We're watching it in real time.

00:41:07.000 They have to prepare.

00:41:08.000 I mean, they're preparing everything like long in advance and practicing and going over, okay, turn to page seven, you know, beat 152. You got to introduce Monster Energy Drink and they're stepping into the Monster Prep Screaming in the ears the whole time, you hear it?

00:41:23.000 It's a fucking hard gig. 0.99

00:41:25.000 It's a fucking hard gig. 0.99

00:41:27.000 The coordination and traffic cop and making sure that everything runs smoothly. 0.99

00:41:32.000 So Kenny, Kenny Rice, he's insane.

00:41:34.000 He does 26 professional sports, like at the highest level.

00:41:38.000 I mean, he did football.

00:41:39.000 They never did it.

00:41:40.000 My buddy calls me, he says, boss, how many times did you do football?

00:41:43.000 I said, what do you mean?

00:41:43.000 He says, he could be the best guy I've ever heard.

00:41:47.000 I say that this is the first time. 0.98

00:41:48.000 He's insane. 0.69

00:41:49.000 When he came to the International Fight League, he never did mixed martial arts. 0.94

00:41:54.000 Same as with Mauro.

00:41:55.000 Never did mixed martial arts.

00:41:56.000 But within two shows, it's insane.

00:41:58.000 But they learn.

00:42:00.000 Mauro got the DVD set.

00:42:01.000 Kenny gets the DVD set.

00:42:03.000 And they actually watch it.

00:42:04.000 They start learning about it.

00:42:06.000 And then they get it.

00:42:07.000 And they ask you questions.

00:42:10.000 Like, boss, what should he do?

00:42:11.000 Boss, is he in trouble?

00:42:13.000 What's going on here?

00:42:14.000 Yep.

00:42:15.000 Are you still doing it for, it used to be World Combat League, I mean, no, what was the...

00:42:21.000 World Series of Fighting.

00:42:22.000 World Series of Fighting, and now it's Professional...

00:42:23.000 Professional Fighters League.

00:42:25.000 Are you still doing that?

00:42:25.000 Yes, June.

00:42:26.000 We're going to start.

00:42:27.000 That's nice.

00:42:28.000 And so they still have John, is John Fitch in Bellator now?

00:42:31.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:42:32.000 I feel like Fitch might have just went to Bellator.

00:42:35.000 That would be not a smart move, because they're going to come at the million dollar prize, right?

00:42:39.000 If you win this season, in every weight class, you're going to get a million dollars.

00:42:42.000 Oh, really?

00:42:43.000 Yeah.

00:42:43.000 Oh, no kidding.

00:42:44.000 So, yeah, that's going to be a nice little pull.

00:42:47.000 I don't think that John, if that's 100% still in place, I think that John will stay.

00:42:51.000 I don't know.

00:42:52.000 I feel like John just went to Bellator.

00:42:54.000 See if you Google John Fitch Bellator.

00:42:59.000 I know Benson Henderson, Roger Huerta.

00:43:03.000 Obviously, they have Rory McDonald.

00:43:06.000 He's, in my opinion, one of the best, if not the best welterweight in the world.

00:43:10.000 So that's a big deal for them to have him, as is Douglas Lima.

00:43:14.000 And Musassi.

00:43:15.000 March 1st signed with Bellator.

00:43:16.000 March 1st signed with Bellator.

00:43:18.000 Oh, wow. 1.00

00:43:18.000 Damn. 1.00

00:43:20.000 I wonder if you knew. 1.00

00:43:21.000 They must have came with a large cheddar.

00:43:22.000 Yeah, yeah, that's true.

00:43:23.000 Bellator brought him some cheddar.

00:43:24.000 That's true.

00:43:25.000 He's got a big name, you know?

00:43:26.000 Yep.

00:43:27.000 There it is.

00:43:28.000 John Fitch signs at Bellator.

00:43:29.000 Well, John's 40 years old now, right?

00:43:32.000 How old is John?

00:43:33.000 Have you had a guess?

00:43:35.000 February 24th.

00:43:36.000 It's a great day to be born.

00:43:37.000 Is it?

00:43:38.000 Yeah, it was born.

00:43:39.000 How old is he?

00:43:40.000 40. Bam.

00:43:41.000 Look at me. 1.00

00:43:42.000 I know shit. 0.99

00:43:44.000 I've been watching John fight since he was in his 20s. 1.00

00:43:47.000 That's crazy.

00:43:48.000 Time flies, baby.

00:43:50.000 I know. 1.00

00:43:50.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:43:51.000 If I go back... 1.00

00:43:52.000 Crazy.

00:43:53.000 Dude, I had a poster of you.

00:43:58.000 From the first time you fought in the UFC, they gave me one of those posters that said, the world's greatest martial artist.

00:44:03.000 Yeah.

00:44:04.000 And it was you fighting for the UFC when you fought Tiyoshi Kosaka.

00:44:07.000 Yeah.

00:44:07.000 Remember that?

00:44:08.000 They asked me, I said, they messed up right there.

00:44:10.000 They forgot a word.

00:44:10.000 I told them specifically the world's greatest looking martial artist.

00:44:15.000 But they forgot that word.

00:44:18.000 Yeah, they were hyping it up big time.

00:44:20.000 Yeah.

00:44:21.000 Yeah, that was cool.

00:44:22.000 What a time that was.

00:44:23.000 Peretti?

00:44:24.000 Yeah.

00:44:25.000 He came over to Japan at the time, was fighting to check me out, and he said, they want you in the UFC, so can you come over there?

00:44:31.000 You know, someone just said something online. 0.90

00:44:33.000 Someone said something about me talking shit about John Peretti, which could not be further from the truth. 0.94

00:44:37.000 Some guy left a comment on Twitter. 1.00

00:44:39.000 I was like, you're out of your fucking mind. 0.99

00:44:40.000 I never said a bad thing about that guy in my life. 0.99

00:44:42.000 I love John Peretti.

00:44:44.000 And I used to love his commentary, even when people hated him.

00:44:46.000 When we were saying things like, ride him like a pony.

00:44:49.000 He was riding someone like a pony.

00:44:50.000 Right?

00:44:51.000 He mounts them like a perennial suit.

00:44:53.000 I always thought perennial is great.

00:44:54.000 He called it like he saw it. 0.95

00:44:56.000 I mean, he fucking had a deep background in martial arts, world kickboxing champion, black belt in jiu-jitsu. 0.98

00:45:02.000 Oh, yeah. 0.96

00:45:03.000 I love that guy.

00:45:03.000 He knew everything.

00:45:04.000 And he would say whatever he wanted to say.

00:45:07.000 He doesn't care. 1.00

00:45:08.000 Yeah, he doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

00:45:09.000 Politician stuff. 0.98

00:45:10.000 Where do people get things sometimes?

00:45:13.000 And then it becomes like some sort of a weird rumor.

00:45:15.000 And I didn't respond to the guy. 0.99

00:45:18.000 He's like, you know, you should stop talking shit about John Peretti. 0.98

00:45:20.000 I'm like, whenever? 0.99

00:45:22.000 Whenever did I do that?

00:45:23.000 You remember the boss with an invitational.

00:45:25.000 We did that a long time ago.

00:45:27.000 There was a lot of great fighters.

00:45:28.000 Nate Marquardt, O2 men.

00:45:29.000 I mean, Jens Pulver.

00:45:30.000 Everybody was on those cuts.

00:45:31.000 I was in Colorado.

00:45:32.000 I was in, I think, 99-something around that time.

00:45:35.000 There was one time he had a 16-man tournament.

00:45:38.000 He had to fight four times.

00:45:40.000 And Pulver actually lost in the finals to a guy who he never heard from.

00:45:45.000 That was weird because Pulver became huge.

00:45:48.000 Anyway, Ron Waterman is fighting this out of shape, out of big guy.

00:45:54.000 And Peretti, because I got Peretti as the matchmaker, because I knew if I have Peretti as the referee, if I have the referee, everybody's going to come because they want to show off in front of the UFC matchmaker.

00:46:07.000 And then they're going to fight in our thing.

00:46:11.000 The boss with the Invitational.

00:46:12.000 So he's fighting Ron Waterman and he goes to Ron Waterman and he says, listen, this guy doesn't have a lot of skills.

00:46:19.000 Don't go too hard.

00:46:20.000 Could you please don't do too crazy?

00:46:22.000 So Ron takes him down right away.

00:46:24.000 He's on top and he loads up and he goes very gentle, starts hitting him like a gentle giant, like really not hard.

00:46:31.000 And Peretti walks in, breaks it up and he says, okay, it's over. 0.96

00:46:34.000 The big guy on bottom jumps up and he gets in Paredes' face, the corner jumps over the rope, we get in Paredes' face, and they start yelling, yelling at this bullcrap, bullcrap.

00:46:42.000 Everybody gets super aggressive and Paredes goes suddenly, okay, okay, you want to fight?

00:46:48.000 Yeah, okay.

00:46:49.000 Okay, we restart the fight.

00:46:51.000 And they restart the fight and he walks to Waterman and he says, do anything you want to do.

00:46:57.000 Oh no!

00:46:58.000 Oh yeah! 1.00

00:46:59.000 Ron Waterman was a fucking gorilla. 1.00

00:47:01.000 Animal! 1.00

00:47:02.000 He was a gorilla.

00:47:03.000 Dude, he takes that guy down, he starts, he mounts him like a pony.

00:47:10.000 He starts hitting him.

00:47:11.000 Peretti looking in the audience.

00:47:14.000 He's looking away.

00:47:15.000 Oh, no.

00:47:15.000 Now the guy gets hit.

00:47:16.000 He gets mauled.

00:47:17.000 Bong, bong. 0.93

00:47:18.000 And he's looking into the audience far away.

00:47:20.000 And suddenly he looks back.

00:47:21.000 He goes, oh, oh, I'm sorry.

00:47:23.000 Break.

00:47:24.000 Rob, stop fighting.

00:47:26.000 The guy is all bashed up.

00:47:27.000 And he walks to the corner.

00:47:28.000 He says, it's your fault.

00:47:29.000 You did this.

00:47:31.000 And then you walked off.

00:47:32.000 Yeah.

00:47:33.000 To early days.

00:47:35.000 You could do that stuff.

00:47:37.000 Yeah, man.

00:47:37.000 It was crazy times.

00:47:39.000 Remember when they had that one just submission only thing?

00:47:42.000 And they had Olympic wrestlers versus MMA fighters.

00:47:46.000 And I think...

00:47:47.000 Oh, Matt Hume by Hilhug, right?

00:47:49.000 The first one.

00:47:51.000 We talked about this before.

00:47:52.000 Jackson?

00:47:53.000 No, it wasn't Kevin Jackson.

00:47:54.000 What's the other one?

00:47:55.000 Kenny Munday.

00:47:56.000 Yeah.

00:47:57.000 And Frank Shamrock fought Dan Henderson.

00:48:00.000 Zinoviev was there?

00:48:01.000 Was Zinoviev in that one, too? 0.88

00:48:03.000 Zinoviev was an animal. 0.87

00:48:06.000 Yeah.

00:48:06.000 He was in World...

00:48:07.000 What was it?

00:48:09.000 Extreme Combat, right?

00:48:10.000 That was it.

00:48:11.000 That was the Peretti show.

00:48:12.000 Yeah, he was the guy who tapped Mario Sperry.

00:48:14.000 And Peretti at the time already had weight classes.

00:48:16.000 Yeah.

00:48:17.000 Remember?

00:48:17.000 He was far ahead of his time.

00:48:19.000 Look at Matt.

00:48:20.000 Fucking stud. 1.00

00:48:21.000 I know him like this. 1.00

00:48:22.000 Look at Maurice Smith in his corner.

00:48:23.000 Yeah, that was...

00:48:24.000 Old days, man.

00:48:26.000 The old days.

00:48:27.000 Yeah.

00:48:27.000 Yeah, play this.

00:48:28.000 This was interesting.

00:48:30.000 Because back then, these wrestlers thought to just be...

00:48:32.000 And Dan Gable was one of the guys that was doing commentary.

00:48:35.000 It was really fascinating.

00:48:37.000 Because Dan Gable thought that if you were on the bottom, you should be losing.

00:48:40.000 Yeah.

00:48:41.000 You know, they had that wrestler's mentality. 0.97

00:48:42.000 Well, you know, you took the guy down.

00:48:44.000 Look at that!

00:48:45.000 Baba Booey! 1.00

00:48:46.000 That's hilarious!

00:48:48.000 Is that a perm? 1.00

00:48:49.000 Gary Delabate is the fucking ring card guy. 1.00

00:48:53.000 Look at that. 1.00

00:48:54.000 Kenny Munday.

00:48:55.000 Tank.

00:48:56.000 Olympic wrestler.

00:48:58.000 Kevin Jackson right behind him there.

00:49:01.000 Yeah, so they go at it.

00:49:04.000 And he's got his knuckles up, which is weird because they're not boxing.

00:49:08.000 So he's trying to wrestle them.

00:49:10.000 And Matt Hume, barefoot.

00:49:12.000 Kenny's wearing shoes. 0.99

00:49:14.000 Matt Hume, what a fucking martial artist that guy is. 0.99

00:49:17.000 Oh, super smart. 0.99

00:49:18.000 What a coach, too.

00:49:19.000 Amazing.

00:49:20.000 Well, you see it now in what he's done with Mighty Mouse.

00:49:23.000 I mean, you realize what depth of knowledge this guy has.

00:49:27.000 Not to take anything away from Mighty Mouse, of course.

00:49:29.000 He's got a tremendous amount of knowledge, too.

00:49:31.000 But the fact that Matt Hume is able to take this guy, so he just drops down.

00:49:35.000 On purpose.

00:49:36.000 Yeah, on purpose.

00:49:36.000 And now he's gonna start working.

00:49:38.000 He went for it!

00:49:40.000 That's hilarious!

00:49:41.000 That's not a good thing against a guy who knows leg locks.

00:49:43.000 Not only that, while you're wearing shoes. 1.00

00:49:46.000 That's what's really stupid about it. 0.99

00:49:47.000 He's gonna do a toe hold? 1.00

00:49:48.000 Oh yeah, he's gonna do a toe hold. 0.72

00:49:49.000 That's it.

00:49:51.000 Tap, tap, tap.

00:49:52.000 That was attacking the ankle and the knee. 0.90

00:49:55.000 That was both.

00:49:56.000 Because his knee was twisted up too.

00:49:58.000 I saw John Loeber in Pancras with a toe hold broke his shin bone.

00:50:03.000 Yeah.

00:50:05.000 I remember that Jason DeLucia, I just walked into the arena.

00:50:10.000 I said, did he just broke his shinbone?

00:50:12.000 And he walked back And he looks at me because he's up next and he says, what happened to the word ow?

00:50:17.000 He said to me because Loeber just kept on fighting.

00:50:21.000 You see the leg all flapping left and right?

00:50:25.000 And he jumps on his opponent.

00:50:27.000 He's another forgotten guy. 0.85

00:50:29.000 Kind of an animal.

00:50:30.000 Yeah, he was.

00:50:31.000 The olden days.

00:50:32.000 The olden days. 0.95

00:50:34.000 There were some fucking crazy fights when you go back then and look at those olden days. 0.95

00:50:39.000 Yeah, I remember we were talking about Yves. 0.98

00:50:43.000 Edwards.

00:50:44.000 Eve Edwards.

00:50:44.000 He was on the podcast last week.

00:50:46.000 Oh, and he was underground fighting.

00:50:50.000 And I remember it was a tank effort was there.

00:50:52.000 I remember that they...

00:50:54.000 Okay, so this is what happened.

00:50:56.000 The Atlantic Commission said the police is there to check.

00:50:59.000 So John Loeber goes into the cage with another guy with their jeans on and they start wrestling.

00:51:04.000 So the Atlantic Commission, the police sees that and they think that is what's going to happen tonight.

00:51:09.000 They leave.

00:51:10.000 They lock the doors.

00:51:11.000 DJ comes on.

00:51:12.000 He says, okay, they're gone.

00:51:14.000 We can fight, ladies and gentlemen.

00:51:16.000 Like people from porn industries start throwing porn DVDs in the audience.

00:51:20.000 This was the wildest place, right?

00:51:22.000 So, Yves is fighting, and he's mounting this guy, and he sits next to the cage, and I'm standing, I mean, I'm a foot away from him, because I'm standing next to the cage, and the cage is raised, and he's raining down straight, straight, straight, straight, straight, straight, and I go, Yves!

00:51:38.000 And he stops punching, and he looks at me, and I say, hook straight, dude, and he goes, hook straight out.

00:51:43.000 Knocked him out immediately.

00:51:45.000 Not only straight, he immediately listened, hook straight, knock the guy out.

00:51:51.000 The old days.

00:51:52.000 Well, good days, though.

00:51:54.000 Yeah, man.

00:51:54.000 Well, it's amazing to be a part of something that developed like that because there's no other sport where you go back to 1993 and then look at it in 2018 and it's almost unrecognizable.

00:52:04.000 You know?

00:52:05.000 I mean, martial arts, mixed martial arts in particular.

00:52:07.000 I mean, if you look at what martial arts were, there was a lot of great Thai boxers back then, of course.

00:52:11.000 There was a lot of great kickboxers.

00:52:13.000 But the difference between the mixed martial arts from 93 to 2018, it's a totally different world.

00:52:19.000 It's a completely different world.

00:52:20.000 In the beginning, if you knew it all, well, you're going to win, you know?

00:52:23.000 But there wasn't anybody who knew it all back then.

00:52:25.000 Not a lot, yeah.

00:52:26.000 There was a few guys that had, you know, a good base of knowledge in some of the other sports, but mostly they were specialists.

00:52:33.000 They were either a wrestler or a karate guy.

00:52:36.000 One glove.

00:52:37.000 Yeah!

00:52:38.000 Or Jimerson.

00:52:40.000 I remember Kent telling me about the event.

00:52:45.000 They were in the back, and they thought that there was still gonna be a work.

00:52:49.000 You know, a lot of people.

00:52:50.000 And then the first fight went on, and it was Gordeaux against the sumo guy.

00:52:54.000 Oh, and he kicked his teeth into the crowd.

00:52:58.000 He said, boss, it got really great backstage.

00:53:01.000 So guys thought it was fake?

00:53:02.000 They thought at any moment still somebody could come in and say, hey, okay, you're gonna have to lose, you're gonna have to win.

00:53:07.000 And at that moment that happened, Everybody was like...

00:53:10.000 Why did they quit that?

00:53:11.000 I don't know.

00:53:12.000 I think there was...

00:53:13.000 Just a couple guys who didn't know.

00:53:14.000 Like that ninja guy that got beat up by Pat Smith.

00:53:16.000 Remember that guy?

00:53:17.000 He was like a ninjitsu guy.

00:53:18.000 Oh yeah, with the pressure point guy. 1.00

00:53:19.000 He did all this crazy shit. 1.00

00:53:23.000 They had the preparation reels. 1.00

00:53:25.000 They showed how they're preparing.

00:53:26.000 He's like...

00:53:26.000 Throwing guys out.

00:53:28.000 Hitting them with all this crazy shit. 1.00

00:53:29.000 Then he got in there with Pat Smith. 1.00

00:53:31.000 He was a fucking badass kickboxer. 0.99

00:53:33.000 And Pat smashed him and then got on top of him. 0.99

00:53:35.000 Oh, five, six elbows. 0.87

00:53:37.000 Elbowed his face.

00:53:37.000 That's where the blood comes back up, right?

00:53:39.000 Oh, it was horrible.

00:53:40.000 It was horrible, yeah.

00:53:41.000 And it was back in the day when they didn't just stop the fight.

00:53:43.000 Yeah, but that's the reason I didn't want to fight in the UFC in the first one.

00:53:47.000 Ken asked me about it.

00:53:48.000 I said, I would never do that.

00:53:49.000 He said, why?

00:53:49.000 I said, I need a referee.

00:53:50.000 He said, everybody can...

00:53:52.000 The guys who say, oh, I'd rather die in the case.

00:53:54.000 Okay, good luck with that.

00:53:56.000 Not me, dude.

00:53:56.000 I have a family.

00:53:57.000 I like my life very much.

00:53:59.000 I don't like to die.

00:54:01.000 I said, as soon as there's a referee who can actually step in, I would like to do it.

00:54:06.000 There was a referee that was there when you tapped to stop it.

00:54:09.000 But you had to tap.

00:54:11.000 But if you got knocked out, they just keep beating you up.

00:54:13.000 You know, and what John said, because when John drew the line, I believe it was with Tank Abbott.

00:54:19.000 Tank Abbott got beat up really bad.

00:54:21.000 He looked at the corner to throw the towel.

00:54:23.000 They turned his back to him.

00:54:25.000 Later on, when he went to them, they said, well, if we would have stopped it, Tank was going to beat us up.

00:54:30.000 That's what he told us.

00:54:31.000 So that's why we didn't throw a towel.

00:54:32.000 And that's the moment he said, okay, I'm going to have to step in here, because otherwise...

00:54:36.000 Someone's gonna die.

00:54:37.000 Yeah, it could have easily happened in those early ones, you know, the early UFC's.

00:54:41.000 The kick, the first kick from Gerard Godot.

00:54:43.000 Mm-hmm.

00:54:44.000 Well, how about Orlando Veet?

00:54:46.000 Oh, the elbows.

00:54:47.000 Remember that guy?

00:54:47.000 Well, not just that.

00:54:49.000 Do you remember Pardew on him?

00:54:51.000 Yeah, Remco took him down, got him in a scarf hold, and just elbowed him completely unconscious.

00:54:56.000 Boom, boom, boom.

00:54:58.000 Just kept hitting him while he was out.

00:55:00.000 But Orlando, like, was one of the first real legit strikers.

00:55:05.000 Oh. 0.99

00:55:06.000 Like, I mean, fucking nasty Muay Thai. 1.00

00:55:08.000 Powerful guy. 0.99

00:55:09.000 And not a big guy either.

00:55:10.000 Like, 180 pounds?

00:55:11.000 It was crazy.

00:55:12.000 He had some wars.

00:55:13.000 I forgot that.

00:55:14.000 Hippolyte.

00:55:14.000 Ivan Hippolyte and Orlando Witt.

00:55:16.000 I think they fought a whole bunch of times.

00:55:19.000 Muay Thai.

00:55:19.000 Muay Thai with elbows.

00:55:21.000 If those guys were fighting in Holland in the Jappe, look, I got goosebumps now.

00:55:25.000 We were there, man.

00:55:26.000 That was flying elbows. 0.96

00:55:28.000 I mean, from the clinch, he would jump up and then rain down elbows to the collarbones, to the top.

00:55:32.000 I mean, yeah, complete animal.

00:55:35.000 Hippolyte, too.

00:55:35.000 Because I went back and forth.

00:55:37.000 He would win, then we would win, then Hippolyte would win, constantly back and forth.

00:55:40.000 So that's why it was so interesting for us.

00:55:43.000 Yeah, if you're just getting into Muay Thai now, and you're just hearing about it, the fucking day we live in today, where you could just go on YouTube and find hours and hours, you could fill the rest of your life just watching amazing fights.

00:55:56.000 Really? 0.80

00:55:56.000 Yeah, you can. 0.80

00:55:57.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00

00:55:58.000 Just find out about Giorgio Petrosian. 1.00

00:56:00.000 Just Google Giorgio Petrosian. 1.00

00:56:02.000 You go, who the fuck is that? 1.00

00:56:03.000 Who the fuck is that? 1.00

00:56:04.000 Who the fuck is that? 1.00

00:56:05.000 You go watch. 1.00

00:56:06.000 Giorgio, the doctor, baby.

00:56:08.000 Unreal.

00:56:09.000 Italian.

00:56:09.000 There's only one emperor from Italian, right?

00:56:12.000 Italian-Armenian, though.

00:56:13.000 Wow.

00:56:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:14.000 He needed that.

00:56:15.000 Armenian from Italy.

00:56:15.000 Yeah.

00:56:15.000 Armenians are fucking crazy, man.

00:56:17.000 That's a wild race of people. 1.00

00:56:19.000 But he's...

00:56:20.000 But, you know, but he...

00:56:21.000 Okay, but the Italian side of him made him very calculated. 0.94

00:56:24.000 Technical.

00:56:25.000 Right?

00:56:25.000 Because Armenian, would you think, okay, I'm going to go in here, I'm going to get you.

00:56:28.000 And he was very technical as well.

00:56:30.000 Well, it's just his mind, man.

00:56:32.000 What was his record at the time?

00:56:33.000 Like 54-0 or something, right?

00:56:35.000 Something insane.

00:56:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:36.000 He got knocked out in glory.

00:56:38.000 He fought that African guy. 1.00

00:56:41.000 Fuck, I'm trying to remember the homeboy. 1.00

00:56:43.000 He fought... 1.00

00:56:46.000 Somebody...

00:56:47.000 Ilungu?

00:56:47.000 Was that who knocked him out?

00:56:49.000 I forget who it was.

00:56:50.000 But Georgia was so good with angles. 0.87

00:56:53.000 And technique, I mean, his technique was flawless.

00:56:56.000 And if you ever watch him drill, you recognize why he was so good.

00:57:01.000 I mean, he was so technical and precise in his drilling.

00:57:05.000 But you see what he's doing?

00:57:06.000 He's punching right away.

00:57:07.000 Watch.

00:57:07.000 Steps to the side, see?

00:57:08.000 He's moving while he is punching.

00:57:10.000 But he lands the punches with two feet on the floor still, and then he moves.

00:57:15.000 That's perfect technique.

00:57:16.000 Yeah, perfect technique.

00:57:18.000 Yeah, he's someone to really watch.

00:57:20.000 Like Giorgio Petrosian.

00:57:22.000 Who knocked him out?

00:57:23.000 It was a big upset.

00:57:25.000 It was in New York.

00:57:26.000 And it was when Glory was promoting him as, you know, who he was.

00:57:30.000 And he just got caught. 0.99

00:57:32.000 He got caught by a fucking vicious striker. 0.99

00:57:35.000 Well, it was not a Dutch guy, right? 0.99

00:57:36.000 I think it was Daniel Ilungu.

00:57:39.000 Andy Risti.

00:57:39.000 Yeah, Risti, see?

00:57:40.000 That's the Dutch guy.

00:57:41.000 That's who it was.

00:57:42.000 Yeah.

00:57:43.000 They got him.

00:57:43.000 Yeah, Risti's a beast.

00:57:45.000 See if you can find that fight.

00:57:47.000 So you find Andy Ristey versus...

00:57:49.000 Petrosian.

00:57:50.000 Giorgio Petrosian.

00:57:52.000 Yeah.

00:57:53.000 That's who it was.

00:57:54.000 That's right.

00:57:54.000 Andy Ristey can crack, too.

00:57:55.000 He's dangerous.

00:57:57.000 Yeah, there it is.

00:57:58.000 Right in Madison Square Garden.

00:57:59.000 That was a big deal for them, man.

00:58:00.000 To get in Madison Square Garden.

00:58:02.000 You know, like, to have that fight.

00:58:05.000 Mayweather.

00:58:05.000 They invited Mayweather there, remember?

00:58:07.000 I heard they paid him a bunch of money to be there.

00:58:09.000 Just to be there?

00:58:10.000 Yeah.

00:58:10.000 That's hilarious.

00:58:11.000 How much did you have to pay him to be there?

00:58:13.000 It's got to be a lot.

00:58:14.000 Yeah, and Ristys, who is a great fighter in his own, but Ristys is a guy who's really good for a couple rounds, and he would fade.

00:58:22.000 And he lost, I forget who he lost to, but he lost by TKO because he faded.

00:58:28.000 He faded in the last round.

00:58:30.000 It's the fast twitch fibers, you know?

00:58:32.000 Once you're explosive, you're really good in the first few rounds, and you're going to have to really doge, make sure that you spread out.

00:58:41.000 Yeah.

00:58:42.000 All your powers, but if your opponent is pushing it and is forcing you to brawl, yeah, you're gonna run out of gas.

00:58:49.000 Yeah, I don't remember what it was that caught him.

00:58:51.000 I believe it was a punch. 0.95

00:58:54.000 He got kicked in the nuts. 0.98

00:58:56.000 Yeah, with a little love tap. 0.99

00:59:00.000 Yeah.

00:59:02.000 I don't remember what happened here.

00:59:04.000 There's been so many good fights.

00:59:06.000 Glory, like I said, I'm a giant fan and I think it's one of the most underrated Underrated organizations in all of combat sports, and they have a great library.

00:59:17.000 Oh, there it is.

00:59:18.000 Left hand.

00:59:19.000 Left hand.

00:59:20.000 Boom.

00:59:21.000 Caught him.

00:59:22.000 Wow.

00:59:23.000 Crazy.

00:59:25.000 Rewind that back for a second.

00:59:26.000 It didn't even look like that big of a shot.

00:59:29.000 Look at this.

00:59:30.000 Just perfect placement.

00:59:32.000 Boom.

00:59:33.000 Uppercut.

00:59:33.000 Like sort of a hook uppercut.

00:59:35.000 Yeah.

00:59:37.000 Like you stepped into it, switched to southpaw, caught him with a left hand. 1.00

00:59:41.000 Fuckin' A. Who did... 0.99

00:59:43.000 Let me pull up Andy Ristey's...

00:59:45.000 I think...

00:59:45.000 I don't wanna...

00:59:46.000 It wasn't...

00:59:47.000 I'm trying to remember who beat him.

00:59:49.000 Somebody beat him where he was winning early on and then he faded as the fight went on.

00:59:54.000 That's a tricky thing for those super explosive guys, like a Conor McGregor, you know?

00:59:59.000 It is hard.

01:00:01.000 O2 trainer, buddy.

01:00:02.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:00:03.000 I'm just throwing it out there.

01:00:04.000 Oh, Von Roosmalen beat him, but I think Von Roosmalen beat him by decision.

01:00:08.000 Oh, KO, that's it.

01:00:09.000 David Kira.

01:00:11.000 Kira is an animal.

01:00:12.000 But also, Roosmalen is known for his stamina.

01:00:15.000 His father was already William.

01:00:17.000 He was fighting when I was fighting.

01:00:18.000 And he's always coming forward.

01:00:20.000 William was not the most technical guy, but dude, the guy had heart and stamina, and he would come for you.

01:00:26.000 And it's very hard to fight somebody who's constantly pushing you backwards.

01:00:30.000 And that's what he was doing as well with him.

01:00:33.000 100%.

01:00:33.000 Makes him run out of gas, and then go in for the kill.

01:00:35.000 Von Roosmalen is an animal.

01:00:37.000 It's just like there's such an amazing pool of talent and glory.

01:00:41.000 It's just an amazing organization to watch.

01:00:43.000 There's so much talent.

01:00:45.000 I don't know why it's not catching on.

01:00:47.000 Nobody sees it.

01:00:49.000 Yeah, but K1 you would think, okay, all these people at least... 0.89

01:00:52.000 Yeah, but you love it, I love it, but the average person go to fucking 7-Eleven and go, hey man, what do you think of Robin Van Moosballen? 0.99

01:01:00.000 Who the fuck are you talking about, man? 0.99

01:01:01.000 Are you trying to sell something? 1.00

01:01:03.000 Yeah, yeah, that's it.

01:01:04.000 You go somewhere and say, what do you think about Conor McGregor?

01:01:07.000 Oh, he's really good when he fights buses.

01:01:10.000 You know, people will say crazy.

01:01:11.000 They know, right?

01:01:13.000 The UFC is very mainstream.

01:01:15.000 Glory right now is still very fringe, unfortunately.

01:01:18.000 Yeah.

01:01:19.000 Yeah, it would have been greater for them, better, if the UFC had a channel, a TV channel like the WWE. They were going to do that for a while.

01:01:27.000 That would be great because then you see Glory will catch on for sure.

01:01:31.000 This right now, I don't know how many people at Fight Pass.

01:01:33.000 Do you know that number?

01:01:34.000 I do not know the number.

01:01:35.000 I know they're very happy.

01:01:37.000 They make a lot of money, but I don't know the number.

01:01:39.000 You know, UFC came real close back in the day to buying a channel.

01:01:43.000 But now I doubt they would do that because they spent so much money to buy the UFC. I don't think they could just go buy.

01:01:49.000 You know, you want to buy a TV channel, that's hundreds of millions of dollars.

01:01:52.000 Channel 1 is still available, I believe.

01:01:54.000 Oh, really?

01:01:55.000 Channel 1?

01:01:55.000 I don't know.

01:01:56.000 I never see anything on anything.

01:01:58.000 I will get Channel No.

01:01:59.000 1. That's the same as with a new Bond movie.

01:02:02.000 I would 001. That's what I would do.

01:02:04.000 I'm 001 instead of 007. He's the seventh guy.

01:02:08.000 001. I'm the first.

01:02:10.000 Yeah, I'm number one.

01:02:12.000 I'm the original.

01:02:13.000 When you go back to those channels, when people were adding channels, when was the last time you heard of a new channel?

01:02:21.000 The last new channel was Vice.

01:02:24.000 Like the Vice channel.

01:02:25.000 And that was like, wasn't that Maxim? 0.99

01:02:27.000 Didn't they buy Maxim or some shit? 0.99

01:02:30.000 They usually just switch. 0.99

01:02:31.000 They switch the name.

01:02:32.000 Like radio stations, they switch formats pretty much.

01:02:34.000 Right, like Paramount.

01:02:36.000 The Paramount network.

01:02:37.000 Used to be Spike TV, now it's Paramount.

01:02:39.000 Yeah.

01:02:40.000 Well, look, man, I'm just happy there's some combat sports on TV. I'm happy that Bellator is still around.

01:02:47.000 You know, people would say, like, oh, you know, you're in competition with Bellator.

01:02:50.000 I'm like, I'm not in competition.

01:02:52.000 I'm not in competition.

01:02:53.000 I like it.

01:02:54.000 I want them to be around.

01:02:55.000 I support it.

01:02:55.000 I support all of them.

01:02:57.000 I wish there was more.

01:02:57.000 I wish there was more organizations.

01:02:59.000 It's good for everybody. 1.00

01:03:00.000 Fuck yeah. 0.99

01:03:00.000 I want to get better. 0.99

01:03:01.000 Yep.

01:03:02.000 It really should.

01:03:03.000 But I really wish there was one big Muay Thai organization.

01:03:07.000 That's what I wish.

01:03:07.000 I wish Glory was Muay Thai.

01:03:08.000 So use elbows and use the real full rules.

01:03:12.000 Elbows, knees, clinch, the whole deal.

01:03:14.000 Let them do everything.

01:03:15.000 Fight Muay Thai style.

01:03:17.000 It's the best style for stand-up fighting.

01:03:19.000 And then put it on TV. Otherwise, have two when you have Glory, Glory elbow. 1.00

01:03:25.000 Right?

01:03:25.000 Right.

01:03:25.000 I mean, you have special rules, like they did in Holland, because Thai boxing they did not do with elbows, but at special events like Hippolyta and Wheat, what I was just talking about, they added the elbows.

01:03:35.000 Oh, no shit. 0.68

01:03:35.000 They didn't use elbows in some of the events? 0.68

01:03:37.000 No, no.

01:03:37.000 They did everything except the elbows.

01:03:39.000 You know, that would be one fight on the card.

01:03:42.000 Right.

01:03:42.000 They would do that.

01:03:43.000 Right.

01:03:43.000 Well, when you see some guys fight, like John Wayne Parr or Nathan Corbett, perfect example.

01:03:50.000 His whole thing was elbows.

01:03:52.000 And then he would fight in glory and they'd take the elbows away from him.

01:03:55.000 Well, he's obviously very good at all aspects of fighting, but now he can't use one of his best weapons.

01:04:02.000 Well, it's taking the headbots out and... 0.99

01:04:04.000 In the UFC with Coleman.

01:04:06.000 Yeah!

01:04:06.000 That was his thing, remember?

01:04:08.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00

01:04:08.000 Trapping both arms? 1.00

01:04:09.000 And then just headbutt the shit out of you. 0.99

01:04:11.000 Yeah, dude, you couldn't stop it. 0.99

01:04:13.000 Yeah.

01:04:13.000 Yeah, when Mark Coleman was in his prime, headbutts were a real weapon.

01:04:17.000 Yeah.

01:04:18.000 Did you headbutt anybody ever?

01:04:19.000 No.

01:04:20.000 No?

01:04:20.000 No, no, no.

01:04:21.000 I'll put my face in their face.

01:04:23.000 You know, if somebody loads up, I'll right away go with my forehead into his face.

01:04:27.000 I will keep the distance closed the whole time.

01:04:29.000 I'll make sure my forehead is in front of your face. 0.97

01:04:31.000 Right.

01:04:32.000 Oh, I wait with it.

01:04:33.000 If they load up, that's the fun part, right?

01:04:35.000 If they do this, and then at the last moment you just lean over.

01:04:39.000 So they headbutt themselves in the face, top of your head.

01:04:43.000 That's awful. 0.86

01:04:44.000 Yeah.

01:04:45.000 It works, though.

01:04:47.000 I would think that he will be distracted for a moment.

01:04:51.000 Oh, for sure.

01:04:52.000 Did you watch UFC Saturday night?

01:04:53.000 No, I did not.

01:04:54.000 I had no time.

01:04:55.000 I was flying all over the place.

01:04:56.000 How dare you?

01:04:57.000 No, I had to go to another show.

01:04:59.000 Not a fight show, an award show.

01:05:01.000 There's this guy that fought on the undercard, Zabit Magomed Sharipov. 0.98

01:05:06.000 Holy shit is this guy. 0.97

01:05:08.000 How many times did you rehearse his name? 1.00

01:05:10.000 Many. 0.99

01:05:11.000 I fucked it up at the Wayans. 0.91

01:05:13.000 They were saying, just call him Zabit. 0.96

01:05:16.000 Just Zabit.

01:05:17.000 And I'm like, no, no, no, I can get it.

01:05:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:20.000 My old man shut it off. 0.99

01:05:22.000 He's fucking phenomenal. 1.00

01:05:23.000 An animal? 0.99

01:05:24.000 He's one of Mark Henry's guys down in New Jersey.

01:05:27.000 Okay, that's good.

01:05:27.000 I like Mark Henry.

01:05:28.000 From Dagestan.

01:05:29.000 Okay, yeah.

01:05:30.000 Where there's just something in the water over there.

01:05:32.000 Yeah.

01:05:32.000 They just create animals.

01:05:34.000 Well, they're trained with bears, right?

01:05:35.000 But this guy is tall and skinny.

01:05:38.000 And he fought Kyle Bokniak.

01:05:40.000 And this kid, Kyle Bokniak, he was... 1.00

01:05:44.000 Shorter, had a hard time getting in on him, and Zabid had more skill in terms of more techniques and more things that he could do, but goddamn, Bokniak is a fucking animal. 0.97

01:05:56.000 He is a savage, because he was there at every second of this fight trying to win, never gave up, never quit, and then at the end of the fight, the very end of the fight, in the third and final round, the last minute of the fight, He's pouring it on, and he's got Zabit up against the cage. 0.98

01:06:12.000 He's screaming at him. 0.99

01:06:13.000 He's got fucking blood coming out of his mouth. 1.00

01:06:16.000 He's chasing after him. 1.00

01:06:17.000 This is the end of the fight.

01:06:18.000 It was him standing in front of him.

01:06:20.000 They're showing some highlights.

01:06:22.000 This is all highlights. 0.99

01:06:23.000 Yeah, but Zabit, that guy is fucking talented. 0.96

01:06:28.000 What is his record? 0.99

01:06:30.000 I think he's undefeated.

01:06:31.000 That's good.

01:06:32.000 He might have one loss maybe early in his career.

01:06:34.000 I feel like he's 15-0 though, I think.

01:06:37.000 See if you can find his record.

01:06:39.000 Does it say?

01:06:40.000 I'm showing you that.

01:06:41.000 Oh, this is the end. 0.99

01:06:42.000 So the end of the fight, and I'm telling you, Bokniak is getting his ass kicked the whole fight. 0.99

01:06:47.000 Look at this, the end. 0.99

01:06:48.000 Standing right in front of him, hands down. 0.99

01:06:50.000 Fucking teeing off. 0.99

01:06:51.000 Holloway. 0.99

01:06:52.000 The whole crowd going crazy.

01:06:54.000 This is my favorite part. 0.99

01:06:56.000 It ends, the buzzer goes off, and look, fucking hugs. 0.99

01:07:00.000 Yeah, I love that. 0.99

01:07:01.000 And they walk around the ring. 0.99

01:07:02.000 And I'm telling you, there was not a person in the fucking Barclays Center that was sitting down. 0.99

01:07:08.000 Everybody stood up and went crazy. 0.99

01:07:10.000 Me too.

01:07:10.000 I was standing up.

01:07:11.000 The only time during the whole night I stood up and I was clapping.

01:07:14.000 You have to.

01:07:15.000 Oh! 0.60

01:07:16.000 You know, if they give it to you all, there's nothing cooler than that.

01:07:20.000 You know, that's what Holloway, when he made that line, you know, he drew the line.

01:07:23.000 Oh, yeah!

01:07:24.000 Oh, man, and it became a thing now.

01:07:26.000 Yeah, 15 to 1, I was right.

01:07:27.000 How's my memory, son?

01:07:28.000 You are so good.

01:07:30.000 Zabit.

01:07:31.000 Look at, try saying that name.

01:07:32.000 Look at, pull that.

01:07:33.000 Okay, Zabit Magomed Sharipov.

01:07:37.000 Sharipov.

01:07:38.000 Magomed Sharipov.

01:07:39.000 Magomed Sharipov. 1.00

01:07:40.000 It's a fucking animal, man. 1.00

01:07:41.000 Zabit Magomed Sharipov. 1.00

01:07:42.000 Very, very talented.

01:07:43.000 And Mark Henry was telling me about this kid a long time ago.

01:07:46.000 He was telling me, he's like, he goes, I got a world champion.

01:07:48.000 He goes, this guy's going to be a world champion.

01:07:50.000 I was like, wow, when Mark Henry tells you that?

01:07:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:52.000 No, that's probably what's going to happen.

01:07:53.000 Yep. 0.98

01:07:54.000 I mean, he's got, there's a good fight coming up with, he is, who is, Marlon Marais is fighting, who the fuck is he fighting? 0.97

01:08:07.000 I love him. 0.98

01:08:08.000 Good day.

01:08:09.000 Great footwork, man. 0.99

01:08:11.000 God damn it. 1.00

01:08:12.000 I'm trying to remember who he's fighting. 0.99

01:08:15.000 I see his face right in front of me.

01:08:17.000 Frankie...

01:08:18.000 Go to the UFC bantamweight division.

01:08:25.000 Frankie Rivera.

01:08:26.000 Jesus Christ.

01:08:28.000 That's who he's fighting.

01:08:29.000 Now I remember.

01:08:30.000 Yeah.

01:08:30.000 It was another animal.

01:08:31.000 A guy who beat Uriah Faber.

01:08:34.000 Oh, of course.

01:08:35.000 Jimmy Rivera.

01:08:36.000 Why did I say Frankie Rivera? 0.94

01:08:37.000 Jimmy is an animal.

01:08:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:08:39.000 Oh, man, he can hit.

01:08:40.000 I'm confused.

01:08:41.000 There's too many E's.

01:08:42.000 Too many E's in this world. 1.00

01:08:43.000 Jimmy Rivera, who beat...

01:08:45.000 He beat a bunch of good guys.

01:08:47.000 You should have stopped at 11-1.

01:08:49.000 Or 15-1.

01:08:50.000 Oh, I remember that.

01:08:51.000 Yeah, you were ahead.

01:08:51.000 And then right away you messed it up.

01:08:52.000 Fucked it up. 0.99

01:08:53.000 Jesus. 0.99

01:08:53.000 Yeah, Jimmy Rivera. 0.99

01:08:57.000 He's an interesting guy, too, because he's one of those Tiger Shulman guys.

01:09:00.000 Yeah, I was just going to say, yeah.

01:09:01.000 Yeah, when I was a kid, when I was living in New York, there was a bunch of Tiger Shulman karate places, but they were always like karate schools.

01:09:10.000 We thought of them as like a chain.

01:09:12.000 It's like a chain.

01:09:13.000 But they developed legit MMA fighters.

01:09:16.000 It's like credit to that guy, Tiger Shulman, because he really embraced MMA. And they really developed some real top-level talent.

01:09:24.000 Well, once you're open-minded and you know that evolution is there, you know, look at Bruce Lee.

01:09:29.000 The book, The Tao of Yeet Kune Do, you'll find toe holes, helix, inverted helix, knee bars.

01:09:35.000 I mean, you name it. 0.92

01:09:36.000 Everything is in that freaking book. 0.91

01:09:38.000 It's amazing. 0.93

01:09:39.000 Yeah, I remember Game of Death.

01:09:41.000 Was it Game of Death or Enter the Dragon?

01:09:42.000 Enter the Dragon, the opening with the crucifix kind of thing that he was doing for Bolo. 0.91

01:09:46.000 Crazy!

01:09:47.000 Crazy, right?

01:09:48.000 I was going like, Bolo could have escaped that.

01:09:50.000 He could have breached that, you know?

01:09:51.000 For sure.

01:09:52.000 But it was there.

01:09:54.000 But that's like, you know, some pro wrestling moves.

01:09:57.000 You know, you see him, you go, hmm, that wouldn't really work.

01:09:59.000 Because if he's flexible in his neck, plus the adrenaline will make you extra flexible.

01:10:05.000 Trust me, you're not going to feel the stretch. 0.99

01:10:07.000 What did you think about that crazy shit with Conor McGregor throwing the dolly at the bus? 0.98

01:10:11.000 You know, I'm giving Conor a lot of passes, and the only reason I'm giving him a lot of passes is the same as Mike Tyson. 0.99

01:10:18.000 It's like, you know, you're getting a lot of money, you have the wrong people around you, everybody's a yaysayer. 1.00

01:10:24.000 You know, if somebody says, hey, you know what, we should throw something against the bus, the whole gang is going to, yeah!

01:10:29.000 Let's do that!

01:10:29.000 Sounds a great idea!

01:10:30.000 I think he just got caught up in the moment.

01:10:33.000 Be him.

01:10:33.000 Try to be him.

01:10:34.000 He can't go anywhere.

01:10:35.000 He can't pump gas.

01:10:36.000 He can't do it.

01:10:37.000 Everybody recognizes.

01:10:38.000 He's got a lot of pressure on him.

01:10:39.000 I think he just has to figure himself out, and it's going to be okay.

01:10:43.000 Deep down inside, he's a good guy.

01:10:45.000 And I like him.

01:10:46.000 And the way with his family and his wife and everything that he does, I hope he never loses that because that made him love him.

01:10:52.000 Yeah, but just look at it this way.

01:10:54.000 Ray Borg was on that bus.

01:10:55.000 Oh, I know, yeah.

01:10:56.000 And he got his eyes cut.

01:10:57.000 He got corneal abrasions because Conor threw that dolly at the bus.

01:11:00.000 I mean, who knows what's going to happen to Ray's eyes.

01:11:02.000 See if you can find an update on that, Ray Borg's condition, because he was the one who suffered the most serious injury.

01:11:09.000 Michael Chiesa got cut on his head, but I think he's okay.

01:11:13.000 I think those are just cuts, and he'll be fine.

01:11:15.000 But Ray Borg, you get a corneal abrasion, that's really serious.

01:11:21.000 But what I was going to say is imagine if the roles were reversed. 0.99

01:11:24.000 Imagine if Conor was on the bus and Ray Borg threw a fucking thing. 0.98

01:11:27.000 Here, UFC Ray Borg yesterday showed a cut below his eye. 0.99

01:11:31.000 Ugh, it's in his eyeball.

01:11:33.000 Ugh, Conor McGregor tacking a bus.

01:11:35.000 He had a number of other MMA stars.

01:11:38.000 He and a number of other MMA stars are seated on.

01:11:41.000 So yeah, so he's got...

01:11:43.000 He's got some serious...

01:11:45.000 Ray Park is only 24?

01:11:46.000 You know, what I was afraid of is that somebody's going to Zoom, just like having with Russell Crowe.

01:11:51.000 You remember when you hit the guy with the telephone in his face?

01:11:53.000 They had to settle it for like six or eight million dollars because otherwise it was going to go to court.

01:11:57.000 And if it goes to court, he's got a felony, can never fight in America again.

01:12:01.000 That means for Russell Crowe, could have never done a movie in America again.

01:12:04.000 So he had to settle with the guy and he had to give him that money.

01:12:07.000 That's a lot of money.

01:12:08.000 That guy's probably balling right now.

01:12:09.000 Yeah.

01:12:10.000 He's probably right now sitting on a beach somewhere, drinking a margarita.

01:12:13.000 Go Russell Crowe!

01:12:14.000 Well, it depends.

01:12:15.000 If he never had money, it's probably gone, right?

01:12:17.000 We know how to go.

01:12:18.000 Yeah.

01:12:19.000 Taxes. 1.00

01:12:19.000 Oh, he's going to blow my fucking fantasy. 1.00

01:12:22.000 I had a beautiful fantasy, this guy. 1.00

01:12:23.000 With his feet up on the beach.

01:12:25.000 Pina Colada.

01:12:26.000 Something with an umbrella in it.

01:12:28.000 Yeah, and it's all gone now, and now he's cleaning, making shoes shine, and then to make his money still in paradise because he couldn't buy a ticket back.

01:12:36.000 What I was going to say is, imagine if the roles were reversed.

01:12:39.000 Imagine if it was Ray Borg threw the dolly and it cut Conor McGregor's eyes.

01:12:43.000 Oh, listen, I'm not saying that it's good.

01:12:46.000 No, no, no.

01:12:46.000 First of all, he didn't do it on purpose, but I understand what you're saying.

01:12:49.000 I'm just saying, I'm looking at not Conor McGregor.

01:12:52.000 I look at what happened to him the last two years, and that's a lot to deal with, you know?

01:12:57.000 Yes, it is.

01:12:57.000 And I think he has to sort that out and I think that the picture this morning with his baby and his wife was there you could tell on his face that There was something like, he was like ashamed.

01:13:10.000 Watch the picture.

01:13:11.000 Yeah, I've seen it.

01:13:12.000 He might go to jail.

01:13:13.000 It's entirely possible that they might put him in jail.

01:13:16.000 Yeah, that would be not good.

01:13:17.000 Because if it's a felony, he's going to have a problem getting into America, right?

01:13:21.000 Oh yeah, for sure.

01:13:22.000 But that's what I mean.

01:13:23.000 It's a very dangerous...

01:13:24.000 So what do they do here?

01:13:25.000 For his career.

01:13:27.000 He's got to settle.

01:13:28.000 So if he settles with Michael Chiesa, who already filed a lawsuit against him, or already filed some sort of a complaint, Or charges something.

01:13:36.000 So him and Ray Borg, for certain, is going to do the same thing.

01:13:40.000 So those two were cut.

01:13:41.000 Everybody else on the bus.

01:13:43.000 Every other fighter on the bus could sue for emotional damage. 0.85

01:13:47.000 Oh yeah, they can.

01:13:48.000 Including Rose.

01:13:49.000 I thought Rose was going to pull out of the fight. 1.00

01:13:51.000 She was really considering pulling out of the fight.

01:13:54.000 She was so shooken up.

01:13:55.000 You know, I do...

01:13:58.000 Like that he at least because when he talked to Dana there he didn't apologize but he apologized for all the people who were on board right?

01:14:04.000 He said no for the fighters I'm so sorry.

01:14:06.000 So I'm happy he did that you know but it's something you can turn back and you can you can make it right but you can you can try to make it right like a band-aid on a wound but you know to give him all hell I would say give the guy a little space and then hopefully he'll figure it out and you He'll settle it with those guys.

01:14:23.000 Some would say that the only way for him to really learn is to face consequences for his actions. 0.97

01:14:27.000 And if you just keep giving him space, he's going to just keep pushing the needle, and he's going to keep doing more fucked up things like this. 0.97

01:14:32.000 No, but that will happen now, right? 0.98

01:14:34.000 He's going to have to pay.

01:14:35.000 He's going to have to pay 100% guarantee.

01:14:38.000 He wants to settle.

01:14:39.000 He doesn't want to go to court.

01:14:40.000 Look, he's got $100 million that he made from that fight.

01:14:42.000 Yeah, but does he still?

01:14:44.000 And with the taxes and everything off, and with everything he's buying and all, you know what I mean?

01:14:47.000 Okay, let's say he's got $30 million left.

01:14:49.000 Yeah.

01:14:50.000 Let's say he's got 30 million left.

01:14:51.000 Taxes, all that other jazz, what you really get versus what they say you get.

01:14:55.000 There's a lot going on there, right?

01:14:57.000 Training expenses, bought a house, bought a couple of Bentleys.

01:15:02.000 He's going to give out a few million here.

01:15:04.000 This is going to cost him a few million.

01:15:06.000 That's right.

01:15:07.000 Minimal.

01:15:08.000 If you look at Russell Crowe, the whole thing.

01:15:10.000 If they really were going to do this Floyd Mayweather thing, they're not going to be able to do it now.

01:15:15.000 Yep.

01:15:15.000 I mean, if he gets arrested, or he is arrested, but if he gets convicted, and they wind up putting him in jail, it's entirely...

01:15:22.000 I mean, he's got charged with assault, mischief, a few other different things.

01:15:26.000 Even a felony charges there, right?

01:15:28.000 Yeah.

01:15:28.000 I mean, it's entirely possible that there could be some real serious consequences for this, and if they really were going to do that...

01:15:35.000 But how many people would pay to see that Mayweather fight in the octagon? 0.98

01:15:39.000 You know, but give us a little bit of the stupid rules. 0.98

01:15:43.000 It comes from the Mayweather fight. 0.97

01:15:44.000 It's like almost Enoki when he fought Ali, right?

01:15:47.000 Right.

01:15:47.000 Just before, there's no more kicks above the waist.

01:15:51.000 Yeah, no knees, no grappling techniques.

01:15:53.000 I mean, they start changing the rules just an hour or two hours before.

01:15:57.000 So what would you like to see them fight?

01:15:58.000 In the clinch, do it with knees. 0.99

01:16:00.000 Knees and elbows. 0.98

01:16:01.000 Connor will kill him. 0.99

01:16:02.000 I know, but that's what I want to see. 0.96

01:16:05.000 I want Connor to win.

01:16:07.000 I mean, even if there's no grappling, Connor will kill him. 0.92

01:16:09.000 Just with kicks. 0.99

01:16:10.000 Just give him kicks. 1.00

01:16:11.000 He'll take his legs out. 0.98

01:16:12.000 Just low kicks, even. 0.54

01:16:13.000 Just low kicks.

01:16:14.000 Yeah. 0.64

01:16:14.000 He'll take his legs out. 0.64

01:16:15.000 All he'd have to do is just fight. 0.99

01:16:17.000 Do you remember when Rick Rufus fought that Thai guy and the Thai guy just kept his hands out like this and just kicked the shit out of his legs? 0.99

01:16:22.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:16:22.000 That's all Conor would have to do. 0.96

01:16:23.000 He wouldn't even have to box him.

01:16:25.000 Just keep his hands out like this.

01:16:26.000 Whack! 1.00

01:16:27.000 Whack! 1.00

01:16:28.000 A couple of those and you see Floyd limping around.

01:16:30.000 The next thing you know, the head kick's coming.

01:16:32.000 Boom! 0.99

01:16:32.000 Yeah, okay. 0.99

01:16:33.000 But let's say the head kick's not allowed.

01:16:34.000 Let's say they do the rules like Antonio Inoki versus Ali.

01:16:38.000 Well, you can stop him with leg kicks.

01:16:40.000 Yeah, but that's what I mean.

01:16:41.000 I would do...

01:16:43.000 Low kicks.

01:16:43.000 That would be a good one.

01:16:45.000 The next two weeks, every time he goes to the restroom, he's going to go, oh darn. 0.97

01:16:49.000 It's hurting. 0.97

01:16:50.000 Two weeks.

01:16:51.000 Look at the leg from Aldo against Uriah Faber.

01:16:55.000 Is that the craziest leg you've ever seen?

01:16:57.000 Uriah was taking pictures when he was going into the hyperbaric chamber to try to heal up the leg, and his leg was giant purple blotch.

01:17:05.000 It was twice the size of his other leg.

01:17:06.000 Google that.

01:17:08.000 Uriah Faber's leg after Jose Aldo fight.

01:17:13.000 Yeah, who's Aldo gonna fight?

01:17:15.000 He's fighting someone...

01:17:16.000 Oh, Jeremy Stevens.

01:17:18.000 Ooh.

01:17:19.000 Oy, oy, oy.

01:17:20.000 That's a tough fight, yeah.

01:17:21.000 Look at his leg.

01:17:22.000 Oh, my God! 1.00

01:17:24.000 That is fucking crazy! 1.00

01:17:27.000 That is fucking... 1.00

01:17:28.000 First of all, Uriah Faber is a goddamn animal. 1.00

01:17:32.000 That's... 0.99

01:17:33.000 I could not believe because it started early in the fight already and he just kept hanging in there.

01:17:39.000 Yeah, he wouldn't give up.

01:17:40.000 He wouldn't give up.

01:17:41.000 I mean, it was amazing.

01:17:42.000 Amazing that he made it to the end of the round.

01:17:45.000 Or the end of the fight.

01:17:47.000 I mean, Aldo was just taking that leg out.

01:17:50.000 And then I remember I was interviewing Uriah after the fight.

01:17:53.000 He could barely stand up.

01:17:54.000 He could barely just talk.

01:17:56.000 He was in such pain.

01:17:57.000 But respect for that guy. 0.99

01:17:59.000 That guy is tough as shit. 0.99

01:18:01.000 And that is pain at that moment. 1.00

01:18:02.000 The next day.

01:18:03.000 Yeah.

01:18:04.000 That's the real pain.

01:18:05.000 When Jimmy Rivera beat Uriah, he beat him with that low leg kick. 0.99

01:18:09.000 He fucked up Uriah's leg. 0.94

01:18:10.000 A lot of times that happens with guys. 0.97

01:18:12.000 They get that low leg kick and then the nerves give out.

01:18:14.000 Their foot doesn't work right.

01:18:17.000 That happens to a bunch of guys.

01:18:18.000 They get hit with that low leg kick and then their nerves just stop working right.

01:18:23.000 Yeah, I think that's a more dangerous kick, almost, than a low kick, you know, because you actually can break a bone there with the kick.

01:18:30.000 Sure, especially if you hit the thick part of your shin against that little, what is it, the fibula?

01:18:34.000 There's the tibia and the fibula.

01:18:35.000 Yeah, the tibia and the fibula, yeah.

01:18:36.000 Yeah, the fibula is a little tiny thing.

01:18:38.000 Yeah, that'll snap.

01:18:40.000 That's not designed for kicks. 0.92

01:18:41.000 No, you can push it. 0.98

01:18:42.000 We got a shitty design. 1.00

01:18:43.000 The human bones, that's a shit design. 1.00

01:18:46.000 Your hand, that's a shit design for a guy who punches as hard as you. 1.00

01:18:49.000 It's crazy, yeah. 1.00

01:18:51.000 You know, I shouldn't have taken off the glove. 0.95

01:18:54.000 Definitely shouldn't have, because these gloves are fucking awesome, man. 0.94

01:18:57.000 These gloves are good. 0.96

01:18:58.000 I mean, the only thing about these gloves is they may be too good.

01:19:02.000 Like, there's a lot of padding there.

01:19:03.000 That's very thick. 0.99

01:19:04.000 Like, especially with a knuckles gar, like right here, that is thick as shit. 0.98

01:19:09.000 That's like solid inch plus of padding, maybe even more. 0.98

01:19:12.000 Yep.

01:19:13.000 I mean...

01:19:14.000 I like it.

01:19:15.000 It's a very...

01:19:16.000 Even cushion, right?

01:19:18.000 Yeah.

01:19:18.000 You don't see that a lot.

01:19:19.000 Sometimes you push straight through, but this is really...

01:19:22.000 Well, certainly protect your hands and even protect your hands better than the UFC gloves.

01:19:26.000 I think pride gloves were the best for MMA. They were big, though, but it was cool.

01:19:31.000 But they curved.

01:19:32.000 Yeah, they curved, so their hands weren't open, even with the thumb.

01:19:35.000 Yeah, and it didn't stop the grappling.

01:19:37.000 You're a smart guy, and you're creative.

01:19:39.000 Have you ever thought about redesigning boxing or MMA gloves?

01:19:43.000 No.

01:19:43.000 Making something where people don't poke each other, or you just think...

01:19:46.000 Yeah, no.

01:19:47.000 I think people should simply not poke.

01:19:49.000 Why would you have your hands open?

01:19:51.000 I mean, as a fighter, if it's your profession, you should be able not to poke somebody's eye.

01:19:55.000 Come on now.

01:19:55.000 What do you think about this proposition?

01:19:57.000 Because a lot of people have been talking about this, me included.

01:19:59.000 Every time you do a foul, whether it's an eye poke or a low kick to the nuts, you get a point taken away.

01:20:04.000 Whether you're meant to do it or not.

01:20:05.000 You grab the fence, point taken away.

01:20:07.000 So this way there's no warnings and you never do it because you're always worried.

01:20:12.000 Well, you're going to get paralyzed a lot in the beginning, but once you realize that everybody's going to get paralyzed, you'll stop.

01:20:17.000 So it is, you know?

01:20:18.000 It's like giving pedophiles a life-first sentence or death penalty.

01:20:21.000 That will stop that disease for 90% as well. 1.00

01:20:24.000 Just get rid of them. 0.51

01:20:26.000 Yeah.

01:20:27.000 I think they should stop with the cage.

01:20:29.000 I think the cage is a bad environment.

01:20:31.000 I think it's too easy for guys to trap people up against the cage.

01:20:36.000 It's hard for people to see.

01:20:37.000 It's hard for the audience to see.

01:20:39.000 I don't think there's a benefit in the cage.

01:20:41.000 I think the cage was fun in the beginning because it was crazy.

01:20:43.000 Like, you can't leave.

01:20:45.000 You're trapped in the cage.

01:20:46.000 But...

01:20:47.000 No one wants to leave.

01:20:48.000 They want to fight, right?

01:20:49.000 So if they're going to fight, that's not the best environment for fighting.

01:20:53.000 The best environment for fighting is like an open area.

01:20:56.000 The area that Karate Combat has, that's a nice area.

01:21:00.000 It is.

01:21:01.000 You see everything.

01:21:02.000 Plus, you know, with the walls, I like the walls because you can't lean against them.

01:21:06.000 You do that, you're on your back.

01:21:07.000 You're a grounded opponent.

01:21:08.000 Because they pull you back to the ground.

01:21:11.000 Because in karate combat, when you're against the wall, you're not grounded.

01:21:13.000 But if they pull you once you're on your back on the ground, you are and you can get hit.

01:21:17.000 Yeah, so you can't get away.

01:21:20.000 You can't run away.

01:21:21.000 It's not like you run out into the audience.

01:21:23.000 You would have to go up that ramp.

01:21:25.000 But you're contained in the area, but you're not trapped up against a wall like you are with the UFC, with the cage.

01:21:31.000 They were going to do a pit all the way in the beginning, right?

01:21:34.000 When they were talking about it with Milius.

01:21:36.000 Wait a minute, didn't Frank Shamrock do that?

01:21:40.000 Frank Shamrock had something.

01:21:42.000 That he did...

01:21:44.000 Shoot...

01:21:45.000 Did he call it Shootbox?

01:21:47.000 Frank Shamrock Shootbox?

01:21:49.000 I feel like Frank Shamrock did something like this.

01:21:52.000 Where he had...

01:21:53.000 And then Bob Meyerowitz came back and did something called Yama Pitfighting.

01:21:59.000 Remember that?

01:21:59.000 Yeah, I remember that.

01:22:00.000 That was kind of similar to that, too.

01:22:02.000 That was something like that, yeah.

01:22:03.000 Yeah.

01:22:04.000 But that was in a cage, too, wasn't it?

01:22:06.000 Our David came to us to promote arm wrestling where you could hit your opponent.

01:22:10.000 Oh, that's right!

01:22:12.000 That's right, your arms are tied up and dudes were wailing at each other. 1.00

01:22:15.000 Oh my god, that was the most ridiculous shit ever. 1.00

01:22:19.000 I forgot about that one. 1.00

01:22:20.000 I forgot about that one.

01:22:22.000 Guys had their arms taped up, taped together.

01:22:24.000 And then they were punching each other in the head. 0.99

01:22:26.000 What the fuck was that called? 0.99

01:22:28.000 Extreme arm wrestling or something? 0.99

01:22:29.000 I have no clue.

01:22:30.000 I mean, any name is good for that. 1.00

01:22:32.000 That shit was so stupid. 1.00

01:22:34.000 Didn't a couple MMA fighters get involved in that too? 1.00

01:22:37.000 I'm pretty sure, you know, if they were not on the list somewhere.

01:22:43.000 What is this?

01:22:44.000 What is it called?

01:22:45.000 Oh, here we go.

01:22:47.000 Yeah, they tape each other...

01:22:48.000 X. Something about X. X-Arm?

01:22:51.000 X-Arm.

01:22:53.000 So they tape their arms together.

01:22:55.000 He's got a glove, too.

01:22:56.000 Oh, my God.

01:22:57.000 But as soon as you let go...

01:22:59.000 Of that thing that you're holding in order, you know, then you don't have that balance.

01:23:03.000 You have to, if you're right-handed, you're going to have to put your, oh, kicks too! 1.00

01:23:07.000 Oh my god, this is so stupid. 1.00

01:23:09.000 This is so... 1.00

01:23:10.000 Why don't they simply push him down and win the fight like that, right? 1.00

01:23:13.000 This is so fucking stupid. 1.00

01:23:15.000 This is a fight with the bartender. 1.00

01:23:17.000 They have that arm tied up like that. 0.98

01:23:18.000 The bartender's behind the bar, your arm is somehow tied, and you're going to have to fight. 1.00

01:23:25.000 This is so stupid. 1.00

01:23:26.000 I want to see some of this. 1.00

01:23:28.000 X-Arm.

01:23:29.000 That's what it was called.

01:23:31.000 A new sport is born.

01:23:33.000 Yeah, not really.

01:23:34.000 Yeah, I'm getting crazy.

01:23:37.000 I'm throwing kicks.

01:23:38.000 Incredible athletes.

01:23:39.000 Yeah.

01:23:40.000 Ready, set, go! 1.00

01:23:42.000 I'm going to punch you in your fucking head. 1.00

01:23:45.000 Now, how do you win? 1.00

01:23:46.000 Do you win by...

01:23:47.000 Oh, you've got an armbar.

01:23:49.000 Oh, my God.

01:23:50.000 You could do an armbar on the table? 1.00

01:23:52.000 That shit's ridiculous. 1.00

01:23:54.000 That is so ridiculous. 1.00

01:23:55.000 Wait a minute. 0.99

01:23:57.000 He's on to something. 1.00

01:23:59.000 This is so stupid. 1.00

01:23:59.000 The kicks. 1.00

01:24:00.000 Oh, my God.

01:24:02.000 Oh, they stopped it.

01:24:03.000 But meanwhile, they're tied up.

01:24:05.000 Pin his arm.

01:24:06.000 You pin his arm, you win?

01:24:08.000 Wait a minute.

01:24:08.000 Yeah, because that's what you would...

01:24:10.000 Or knock him out. 1.00

01:24:10.000 This is so fucking stupid. 1.00

01:24:12.000 So why don't they just pin him right away so you don't get hit? 1.00

01:24:15.000 Look at this.

01:24:15.000 Doom, doom.

01:24:16.000 Can you imagine if you put... 1.00

01:24:17.000 That's a fucking X-Arm. 0.99

01:24:19.000 That guy in the audience. 0.99

01:24:21.000 I can't do this, too. 0.99

01:24:22.000 I used to be a fan of the UFC, but they fucked me over. 0.99

01:24:24.000 They fucked me over. 0.99

01:24:25.000 I don't like it anymore. 1.00

01:24:26.000 I'm a ball about X-Arm.

01:24:28.000 I thought those were safety glasses the ref has.

01:24:30.000 It should, just in case blood comes sprayed into his eye. 1.00

01:24:33.000 Spit and shit. 0.99

01:24:34.000 That's a camera? 1.00

01:24:35.000 It's a ref camera. 1.00

01:24:35.000 Oh my god, it's so dumb. 1.00

01:24:38.000 That is so fucking dumb. 1.00

01:24:42.000 Oh my god. 1.00

01:24:43.000 I forgot about this.

01:24:45.000 I'm so glad you brought this up.

01:24:46.000 Oh, that guy got killed.

01:24:47.000 He's out.

01:24:47.000 And he's hanging on to him.

01:24:48.000 Hey, I got him.

01:24:49.000 He's out cold.

01:24:50.000 Untie me from this dead man.

01:24:52.000 I did it to a trading partner one time. 1.00

01:24:54.000 That's so fucking stupid. 1.00

01:24:55.000 What'd you do? 1.00

01:24:56.000 To a trading partner.

01:24:57.000 I was very angry.

01:24:59.000 More angry than you were at the desk?

01:25:01.000 You know what?

01:25:02.000 He had a fight in two weeks.

01:25:04.000 And he said this weekend, my friend's going to go to Vegas for a bachelor party.

01:25:09.000 You think I should go?

01:25:10.000 And I go, you're asking me for advice?

01:25:13.000 Yeah.

01:25:14.000 I said, no, don't go.

01:25:15.000 This is going to go wrong.

01:25:16.000 You do drugs, you go drunk, you do everything.

01:25:18.000 Right.

01:25:18.000 Of course it went wrong.

01:25:19.000 He did go.

01:25:20.000 So now I'm angry because he had a fight going on.

01:25:23.000 And I said, he wanted to train.

01:25:25.000 He was back on Saturday or Sunday.

01:25:27.000 He wanted to train.

01:25:27.000 I said, no, let's do Monday.

01:25:28.000 Give you an extra day rest.

01:25:30.000 Well, now I came in and this time I... You know, normally I never want to knock somebody out, but I want to knock him out.

01:25:35.000 Just now I... Because he couldn't fight anyway already.

01:25:38.000 This is a young angry boss.

01:25:39.000 Angry boss.

01:25:40.000 No, he didn't listen and now you get to fight and you're constantly complaining about your losing.

01:25:45.000 I mean, it has a reason.

01:25:47.000 And this was one of the reasons.

01:25:48.000 This was the moment for him to get a lesson.

01:25:51.000 So I think first punch I threw.

01:25:53.000 But incredible heart.

01:25:54.000 And I remember I hit him and I almost didn't feel the impact.

01:25:57.000 So you know that I hit him with a loose neck, so to say.

01:26:00.000 Went straight through.

01:26:01.000 And I remember him falling over the rope.

01:26:03.000 And I grabbed my stuff.

01:26:05.000 And I walked to my car.

01:26:06.000 My car was in the garage.

01:26:07.000 We were in the garage and the ring was in there.

01:26:10.000 It was at the front of my place.

01:26:12.000 And I walked over to my car, and while I walked over, I looked back, and he was still hanging.

01:26:16.000 There was no movement whatsoever.

01:26:17.000 And I got started to get worried, because now he was out already.

01:26:20.000 For like two minutes, no movement whatsoever.

01:26:22.000 So I get in my car, and then I drive by, and he still does no movement.

01:26:27.000 Is somebody taking care of him?

01:26:28.000 I got out of the car, because I wanted to take care of him.

01:26:30.000 And as soon as I started walking, he started twitching.

01:26:33.000 So I got in my car, and I drove off.

01:26:35.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:26:36.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:26:36.000 That's ridiculous. 0.99

01:26:38.000 Did he fight? 0.97

01:26:39.000 Yeah, but that was enough for a long time.

01:26:41.000 Did he fight?

01:26:42.000 He fought and he lost.

01:26:44.000 Well, of course he lost.

01:26:45.000 You knocked him out two weeks ago.

01:26:46.000 No, no, no.

01:26:46.000 He was losing already and it was every time it was somebody else's thing and say, maybe you stop smoking weed for a while.

01:26:52.000 Maybe that was going to help.

01:26:54.000 What about that?

01:26:55.000 Maybe that would help.

01:26:56.000 So if you wake up in the morning and you smoke a bong and you do that all day long and you keep doing it, I mean, maybe that's the reason, right?

01:27:03.000 Well, it could be a factor.

01:27:04.000 You're not getting really to your potential.

01:27:06.000 Unless you're Nick Diaz.

01:27:07.000 Yeah.

01:27:08.000 It doesn't seem to affect him.

01:27:09.000 There's always exemptions.

01:27:12.000 Yeah, he's a real exemption.

01:27:14.000 I mean, when people think about potheads, you think about someone who's lazy, and you think about people that have bad endurance.

01:27:19.000 You would think you'd be lazy.

01:27:20.000 But Nick Diaz has phenomenal endurance.

01:27:23.000 I mean, he does triathlons.

01:27:24.000 Do you know he swam from Alcatraz five times?

01:27:27.000 I said two times, and he corrected me.

01:27:29.000 He goes, no, bro, five times.

01:27:31.000 I'm like, five? 0.99

01:27:32.000 He swam back from Alcatraz five fucking times in the shark-infested waters of San Francisco. 0.96

01:27:38.000 But there were also, they said it was a lot of, you know, it was not as bad as what they let the prisoners know, of course. 0.96

01:27:45.000 Well, it's just because athletes are just so much better now.

01:27:50.000 But if you didn't swim, it's not like they let them prepare in prison.

01:27:53.000 Like, hey, do laps in the pool.

01:27:55.000 Like, those guys, they didn't have any endurance anymore.

01:27:58.000 No, they didn't have a little pool either, right?

01:27:59.000 I'm thinking, how can you practice swimming?

01:28:02.000 But that's a hard one.

01:28:03.000 That's a hard one.

01:28:03.000 I'm sure some of them made it.

01:28:05.000 There's a couple guys did attempt to swim back from Alcatraz.

01:28:09.000 And one guy, they found his clothes on the beach and they never found him.

01:28:12.000 And they assumed that he got eaten. 0.96

01:28:14.000 By a shark or some shit and drowned and they just found his clothes. 0.97

01:28:17.000 But it's entirely possible the guy swam all the way. 1.00

01:28:19.000 If he was a fucking real animal, could swam all the way, took his clothes off and went, fuck you, I'm out of here. 0.99

01:28:26.000 Back then, they didn't have no database. 1.00

01:28:28.000 He's laughing right now.

01:28:29.000 He's listening to this podcast.

01:28:30.000 He's 90 years old.

01:28:31.000 He goes, we're good! 0.99

01:28:32.000 That was me, those cunts! 0.99

01:28:34.000 You got a call-in number? 1.00

01:28:34.000 I got three! 1.00

01:28:37.000 Yeah, I mean, I think nobody, I don't think they know of anybody who definitely successfully made it, but today people do it all the time. 0.98

01:28:45.000 It's like all those triathlete endurance, those serious animals, those guys who do like triathlons, ultra marathons, those motherfuckers, they have ridiculous cardio.

01:28:58.000 But there's a woman also, like a 90-year-old woman who did it? 0.98

01:29:01.000 Really?

01:29:02.000 I mean, yeah, yeah.

01:29:03.000 90 years old?

01:29:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29:05.000 I'm also from Alcatraz.

01:29:06.000 Jesus Christ!

01:29:07.000 Did you ever go to Alcatraz?

01:29:08.000 You did, right?

01:29:09.000 Yeah, when I was a kid.

01:29:09.000 It was cool, right?

01:29:10.000 Yeah, it's pretty cool.

01:29:11.000 You know, to go to Al Capone, Sal, and to see all that stuff.

01:29:14.000 It's weird.

01:29:14.000 The movie, The Rock.

01:29:15.000 Remember that?

01:29:16.000 That's right.

01:29:16.000 That was a badass movie.

01:29:17.000 Clint Eastwood, right?

01:29:18.000 No, no, no.

01:29:20.000 What's his name?

01:29:20.000 He's in Escape from Alcatraz.

01:29:21.000 He plays Frank Morris.

01:29:22.000 Oh, right.

01:29:22.000 Which one was The Rock?

01:29:23.000 The Rock.

01:29:24.000 Nick Cage.

01:29:25.000 Nicholas Cage.

01:29:26.000 Yeah, that's the difference.

01:29:28.000 That's right.

01:29:29.000 Escape from Alcatraz.

01:29:30.000 Anthony Hopkins.

01:29:31.000 Yeah.

01:29:32.000 Those guys, they escape from...

01:29:34.000 No, no, no.

01:29:34.000 What's his name?

01:29:36.000 James Bond.

01:29:37.000 Bond.

01:29:38.000 James Bond.

01:29:38.000 Oh, James Bond.

01:29:39.000 Sean Connery.

01:29:42.000 He's also such a badass guy.

01:29:44.000 I always love Sean Connery. 0.96

01:29:45.000 My favorite interview is him with Barbara Walters, where he's talking about smacking women.

01:29:49.000 Oh, I was just going to say that! 0.97

01:29:50.000 They need a smack. 1.00

01:29:52.000 Sometimes they don't listen.

01:29:54.000 You let them have the last word, and that's not enough.

01:29:57.000 And they need more and more, and you just have to take your hand and smack them.

01:30:03.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:30:05.000 Escape from Alcatraz. 0.99

01:30:06.000 Clint motherfucking Eastwood. 0.99

01:30:08.000 That's an escape, yeah. 0.98

01:30:10.000 So I don't think anybody definitely escaped.

01:30:14.000 And made it across the ocean.

01:30:16.000 I don't think like there's one guy that they caught in San Francisco.

01:30:18.000 They're still on the FBI's wanted list, but they're assumed drowned.

01:30:21.000 They're still on the FBI's most wanted list.

01:30:23.000 And what year was it they escaped?

01:30:25.000 62. Oh, wow.

01:30:26.000 They might be alive.

01:30:27.000 They might be still alive.

01:30:28.000 Wow.

01:30:29.000 Those three guys escaped?

01:30:31.000 Yeah.

01:30:31.000 Look at those creeps.

01:30:32.000 And they never got found.

01:30:33.000 Ah, no.

01:30:34.000 Wow.

01:30:35.000 Probably drowned.

01:30:37.000 Man, if you hear us, call us.

01:30:40.000 Well, I'll tell you what I did.

01:30:42.000 That will be a story.

01:30:44.000 I made it.

01:30:45.000 Made it across that ocean.

01:30:47.000 Google the 90-year-old lady who made it.

01:30:49.000 That's insane.

01:30:50.000 You know what?

01:30:50.000 If they would still be alive, they should write a book, right?

01:30:53.000 And then just before they die, they say, here, this is how I escaped Alcatraz.

01:30:57.000 The money proceeds goes to the family, wherever you live.

01:31:00.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:31:01.000 Or just write a novel.

01:31:04.000 And go, oink, oink. 0.99

01:31:05.000 This is all fiction.

01:31:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:31:06.000 Like O.J. Simpson did.

01:31:08.000 If I did.

01:31:10.000 Did you see the interview where he kind of like...

01:31:12.000 Says that he did?

01:31:13.000 I saw that.

01:31:14.000 I didn't see it.

01:31:15.000 Oh, yeah.

01:31:15.000 It's freaky.

01:31:16.000 You know, you hear him saying.

01:31:17.000 Because sometimes he forgets he doesn't talk in the third person.

01:31:20.000 Sometimes he talks.

01:31:21.000 And then he took this...

01:31:23.000 Suddenly he made this really weird karate stance.

01:31:26.000 Like he knew karate.

01:31:28.000 And then it's quiet.

01:31:29.000 He says, oh, oh.

01:31:30.000 Of course, you know, that will be in my mind.

01:31:33.000 You know he would correct himself every time?

01:31:35.000 Yeah.

01:31:36.000 He took a karate pose.

01:31:38.000 It's weird that he's out there roaming around now.

01:31:40.000 Yeah.

01:31:40.000 Ladies, he's available.

01:31:42.000 Oh, I'm sure there's a lot of crazy bitches out there. 1.00

01:31:44.000 Apparently that Parkland shooter, that kid that killed all those kids in Florida, he just gets fan mail all day long, they say. 1.00

01:31:52.000 Girls want to marry him. 1.00

01:31:53.000 Girls want to marry him. 1.00

01:31:54.000 Yeah.

01:31:54.000 That was the thing with Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker.

01:31:57.000 He just got tons of marriage requests. 0.93

01:31:59.000 There's a lot of girls who want to marry psychos. 1.00

01:32:02.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:32:03.000 It's so strange.

01:32:04.000 Yeah, something really bad happened to them when they were young, I guess.

01:32:07.000 I mean, otherwise, how do you get there?

01:32:09.000 How do you get to a spot like that?

01:32:11.000 I don't know.

01:32:12.000 Yeah.

01:32:12.000 Some people, man.

01:32:14.000 It's weird.

01:32:15.000 We need bigger penalties for things.

01:32:17.000 That's what we need.

01:32:18.000 I like that, what you said.

01:32:19.000 You know, no more warning.

01:32:21.000 Boom.

01:32:21.000 Do it one time.

01:32:22.000 I think actually it's a good idea for fights.

01:32:23.000 Yeah.

01:32:23.000 For fights, I think eye pokes.

01:32:25.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:32:26.000 Even if you didn't mean to do it, the other guy got poked in the eye.

01:32:30.000 And that's a significant impact, and it could affect the vision.

01:32:33.000 And we know many fights that have changed the course of the fight.

01:32:36.000 Like Travis Brown, Matt Mitrione.

01:32:38.000 Mitrione's winning the fight.

01:32:39.000 He gets eye-poked by Travis Brown.

01:32:41.000 Then he winds up getting beaten up and stopped.

01:32:43.000 It was a big, big moment in the fight, and it came from an eye-poke.

01:32:47.000 Those kind of situations happen.

01:32:48.000 And even if they're by accident, it doesn't matter.

01:32:51.000 They happen.

01:32:52.000 And when they happen, that's a giant impact.

01:32:55.000 And that giant impact should be penalized.

01:32:58.000 Because that guy can't see now.

01:32:59.000 He's looking like this.

01:33:00.000 I got stabbed in my head in pro wrestling, and you literally, what they say, you see three people.

01:33:05.000 Yeah.

01:33:06.000 I couldn't focus.

01:33:07.000 The referee goes, fight. 0.87

01:33:08.000 I can't see anything.

01:33:09.000 Is this in Japan?

01:33:10.000 Yeah, it was pro wrestling.

01:33:11.000 He said, fight, fight.

01:33:11.000 I said, okay, I'll fight, but...

01:33:13.000 They do some hard pro wrestling in Japan sometimes, right?

01:33:16.000 Yeah, it's strong style they call it.

01:33:18.000 So that's why it's so good for the mixed martial artists because they use real submission moves.

01:33:22.000 If you go here to WWE, you know, you see moves and they tap on things that are not even moved sometimes.

01:33:28.000 Right.

01:33:28.000 So, you know, it's easier.

01:33:29.000 A bunch of WWE guys got mad at me because I was analyzing the figure four toe hold and I was saying the other guy is actually in a better position.

01:33:36.000 The guy who's getting the toe hold has a heel hook right here. 0.99

01:33:40.000 Just reach over, grab a hold of that shit. 1.00

01:33:42.000 You got it. 1.00

01:33:43.000 People were mad at me.

01:33:45.000 WWE guys were so mad.

01:33:47.000 For telling the truth.

01:33:48.000 They were saying that I'm somehow or another diminishing their thing.

01:33:53.000 You guys just did WrestleMania last night. 0.99

01:33:55.000 It was the biggest fucking thing on TV. It's not diminishing it, but you can't get mad if someone's pointing out reality. 0.98

01:34:05.000 It is reality.

01:34:06.000 You know what?

01:34:06.000 If they say...

01:34:08.000 I think they're amazing guys.

01:34:11.000 Yeah, they're athletes.

01:34:12.000 I mean, I was almost about to sign for them a long time ago, but I thought I was going to get away with like 20, 30 shows.

01:34:19.000 No, no, no.

01:34:20.000 The minimum was 220. 220 shows a year?

01:34:23.000 Yeah, that's without the traveling.

01:34:24.000 So I go, you know, and these guys take bombs every single night.

01:34:28.000 Can you imagine?

01:34:29.000 And that's 220 shows, you know.

01:34:30.000 If you look at Stone Cold Steve Austin, all these guys, the rock, Dwayne Johnson, all these guys, they did way more a year.

01:34:35.000 They did two shows in one night, they say.

01:34:38.000 They were going from town to town.

01:34:39.000 That's a crazy life.

01:34:41.000 Stone Cold Steve Austin eating raw potatoes because he had no more money.

01:34:45.000 Raw potatoes eating in the car, driving from event to event.

01:34:49.000 Because he had no money?

01:34:50.000 He had no money at the time.

01:34:51.000 He was building himself up.

01:34:53.000 He was eating raw potatoes?

01:34:53.000 It was raw potatoes, yeah.

01:34:55.000 What does a raw potato taste like?

01:34:57.000 I don't know.

01:34:57.000 It's like a raw potato, I guess.

01:35:00.000 Not good.

01:35:00.000 A little bitter, right?

01:35:02.000 Remember when Ken Shamrock was the world's most dangerous man?

01:35:04.000 Yeah.

01:35:05.000 Remember he did it?

01:35:06.000 Just jacked.

01:35:07.000 Yeah.

01:35:07.000 He was so jacked back then.

01:35:09.000 It was ridiculous. 0.96

01:35:10.000 Remember how big he got? 1.00

01:35:12.000 Holy shit, he got big. 1.00

01:35:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:35:14.000 Here's like 260 pounds, I won't know what they think. 0.99

01:35:16.000 That was fucking huge! 0.98

01:35:18.000 It's an unbelievably tough way to make a living. 0.99

01:35:21.000 Unbelievably tough.

01:35:22.000 What is this?

01:35:23.000 She had to retire yesterday. 0.98

01:35:25.000 She got kicked in the back at a house show and snapped her neck.

01:35:28.000 What's a house show?

01:35:30.000 Like a non-televised show.

01:35:32.000 One of the 220 shows they have to do, like not in LA, like whenever, Kansas, on a Wednesday night.

01:35:39.000 Whoa.

01:35:39.000 Very injury-prone, man, because it's constantly, constantly, it's really amazing.

01:35:44.000 All the faults, all these things are real.

01:35:46.000 So people can say whatever they want.

01:35:48.000 And people say, oh, pro wrestling is fake.

01:35:50.000 Yeah, so is acting.

01:35:53.000 Let's be honest there.

01:35:54.000 Well, you got one of your worst injuries from stunts, right?

01:35:57.000 That's it, yeah.

01:35:58.000 Sons of Anarchy, right?

01:35:59.000 No, Lights Out, the show on FX. You remember that was Holt McAllenay?

01:36:04.000 Okay.

01:36:04.000 If you, by the way, want to talk to him, he's the lead guy in Mindhunter, in that TV show.

01:36:09.000 What is Mindhunter?

01:36:10.000 Mindhunter, you didn't see on Netflix?

01:36:11.000 Oh, that's that show about serial killers, right?

01:36:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:36:14.000 Oh, no kidding.

01:36:15.000 Yeah.

01:36:15.000 Yeah, I mean, look, man, what they have to do is one of the hardest jobs in all show business.

01:36:21.000 220 shows a year getting slammed and knocked around like that, it's one of the hardest jobs in show business.

01:36:26.000 But...

01:36:28.000 You're a tough guy. 1.00

01:36:29.000 Don't be such a pussy if someone says that a figure four leg lock doesn't work. 1.00

01:36:33.000 The skin is very thin. 1.00

01:36:35.000 It's just very thin.

01:36:36.000 I don't understand.

01:36:37.000 Instead of thinking that's constructive criticism.

01:36:40.000 Yeah, I got nothing but respect for them.

01:36:41.000 But relax.

01:36:43.000 You should be able to take jokes.

01:36:45.000 You can't tell jokes anymore.

01:36:46.000 - What is going on? - I was on Inside MMA, right?

01:36:49.000 I'm telling at the wrap up, and I didn't even know this was a wrap up, I don't even remember I said this.

01:36:55.000 So I'm busy and I said, yeah, right hook, right hook knockout, we see highlights. 0.85

01:36:59.000 And I tell Kenny Rice, I said, man, right hook knockout. 1.00

01:37:02.000 I said, I love to see that, it's so underused, the right hook.

01:37:05.000 I said, you should really practice that.

01:37:07.000 So Kenny says to me, how do you practice that?

01:37:09.000 I said, well, if you're married, you said, hey, honey, can you come over here for a second?

01:37:12.000 And right away, I'm looking in the camera and I say, I'm kidding, of course, right?

01:37:16.000 And I'm literally saying it because I know there's always people.

01:37:20.000 But I started laughing.

01:37:21.000 It's a joke.

01:37:22.000 I don't even remember me saying this.

01:37:24.000 On my Facebook, I had this...

01:37:27.000 You know, feminist organization attacking me that I couldn't say that I would hit my wife. 1.00

01:37:33.000 And I go, I didn't say it.

01:37:33.000 I went through the whole show and I go, where did I say it?

01:37:36.000 And it was literally the last 20 seconds where I said it.

01:37:40.000 And two seconds later I said, I'm just kidding.

01:37:42.000 It's a joke.

01:37:42.000 You could never do that.

01:37:43.000 You know, but people are so thin-skinned.

01:37:46.000 You can't do anything anymore.

01:37:47.000 These were the same people when they asked me what did I enjoy the most of women fighting. 0.99

01:37:51.000 I thought I'd make a joke.

01:37:52.000 I said, the weigh-ins.

01:37:54.000 Right?

01:37:54.000 I thought it was funny to say because they're in the bikinis.

01:37:57.000 Right.

01:37:57.000 Yep.

01:37:58.000 Same feminist organization. 1.00

01:38:00.000 And we're in this business and you can't do it.

01:38:02.000 And I told them, I said, if you're in the MMA business, I said, get out.

01:38:06.000 Because they all think like me.

01:38:09.000 They just don't say it.

01:38:10.000 On the nice end.

01:38:12.000 Right?

01:38:12.000 On the nice end they think like you.

01:38:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:38:14.000 On the dark end.

01:38:15.000 Oh, they go like, you know what I would do at this moment with a girl like that?

01:38:18.000 That's how bad it is.

01:38:20.000 Did you ever see Derek Lewis' Instagram? 0.98

01:38:23.000 Derek Lewis has the most fucking hilarious Instagram. 0.91

01:38:27.000 He's really pushing it though, right? 0.96

01:38:28.000 He's pushing it.

01:38:29.000 He pushes it as far as pushing it. 1.00

01:38:31.000 You see the shit that he did with Ronda Rousey? 0.99

01:38:34.000 After he knocked out Travis Brown. 1.00

01:38:36.000 After he knocked out Travis Brown.

01:38:37.000 I mean, he knocked out her boyfriend.

01:38:39.000 Or now her husband.

01:38:40.000 And he's got all these videos of him.

01:38:42.000 Oh, Mr. T like in Rocky?

01:38:44.000 He's doing that?

01:38:44.000 His face.

01:38:46.000 They put his face on someone else's body and Ronda's face on someone else's body. 1.00

01:38:51.000 It's like, he's fucking crazy. 1.00

01:38:52.000 Whoa. 1.00

01:38:53.000 Whoa. 1.00

01:38:53.000 He's crazy. 1.00

01:38:54.000 He's funny though. 0.81

01:38:55.000 He's hilarious.

01:38:56.000 He's hilarious.

01:38:56.000 I like it.

01:38:57.000 His Instagram page is fucking hilarious, but I'm always like, how long is it going to take for someone to find that page and just go over his archives and go, what in the fuck? 0.98

01:39:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:39:07.000 Like, you can't do this, man.

01:39:08.000 Nowadays, yeah.

01:39:09.000 Because obviously he's joking around.

01:39:11.000 He's a very funny guy.

01:39:12.000 Before you saw it or after. 0.98

01:39:13.000 Oh, Derek is fucking funny, man. 0.98

01:39:21.000 Who is he fighting next? 0.98

01:39:23.000 I don't know, but everything is good. 1.00

01:39:25.000 He's always posting ridiculous videos where people do stupid shit. 1.00

01:39:29.000 Like, if you just go to his... 1.00

01:39:31.000 It's almost...

01:39:32.000 Oh, does he have a...

01:39:33.000 What's going on with his hand?

01:39:34.000 What is it got on there? 1.00

01:39:36.000 Damn, that shit hurts. 1.00

01:39:37.000 I have a fourth metacarpal fracture. 1.00

01:39:39.000 Oh, February 21st.

01:39:40.000 All right, well, he ain't fighting anybody anytime soon.

01:39:43.000 Oh, they're digging in there.

01:39:44.000 What are they doing?

01:39:45.000 Oh, they're extracting?

01:39:47.000 Yeah.

01:39:47.000 Yeah, they're pulling out the pus.

01:39:51.000 Get in there, son.

01:39:53.000 Pull that pus out. 1.00

01:39:54.000 Yeah!

01:39:57.000 Yeah, they did it to me one time.

01:40:00.000 I was in Japan, and Dan Henderson stands next to me, was at the table eating, and he says, where's the heat coming from?

01:40:07.000 I go, what do you mean?

01:40:08.000 And he pulls with his arm, and my arm was infected, and it was streaming out heat.

01:40:14.000 And he goes, dude, you got staph infection, but this is really bad.

01:40:17.000 I'll do it when I'm home.

01:40:18.000 He says, no, no, no, you got to go to the hospital right now.

01:40:20.000 This is very bad.

01:40:21.000 I went to the hospital in Japan, They put it in a syringe, like this big giant syringe, they start pulling out stuff.

01:40:28.000 It was like the green goblet liquid, that green liquid.

01:40:33.000 Completely clear.

01:40:34.000 Not one little sliver of slime or whatever in it.

01:40:37.000 Completely clear.

01:40:38.000 Like the doctor was pulling it out and he goes...

01:40:41.000 He started talking to all the other doctors and they came running over.

01:40:45.000 They said, what is that?

01:40:46.000 They pulled it out.

01:40:47.000 It was a whole thick syringe.

01:40:49.000 He filled up with green clear stuff.

01:40:52.000 Whoa.

01:40:53.000 Weird, right?

01:40:53.000 Very weird.

01:40:54.000 What'd they give you?

01:40:55.000 Some serious antibiotics?

01:40:56.000 Serious antibiotics, yeah, yeah.

01:40:57.000 Do you have to stay in Japan?

01:40:59.000 With Damon Perry, you remember when we did that show and I was laying on the bar and I was acting like I was drunk and everybody said, dude, that was unbelievable.

01:41:07.000 That was how sick I was.

01:41:09.000 So I acted like I was drunk and I was sweating, but I was from the real sickness.

01:41:13.000 I was literally between takes laying on the desk.

01:41:17.000 Wow.

01:41:18.000 And we go, and we go, and I did the take, and then we fall back again.

01:41:23.000 Wow.

01:41:23.000 Yeah, I was destroyed.

01:41:25.000 Did you fly home with that?

01:41:27.000 Yeah, but it was two days later.

01:41:28.000 I started feeling much better the next day after they gave me over.

01:41:31.000 Did they give you oral antibiotics or IV? Oral and IV, and my IV right away.

01:41:35.000 In the hospital, yeah. 0.99

01:41:36.000 Damn, staph infection scares the shit out of me, man. 1.00

01:41:40.000 You can lose something. 1.00

01:41:41.000 You remember the staff from Kevin Randleman?

01:41:43.000 Yeah.

01:41:44.000 He had holes.

01:41:45.000 A hole in his armpit area.

01:41:46.000 Oh yeah, here, underneath.

01:41:47.000 Like a snuff box, you know, like the tobacco thing?

01:41:51.000 You could hide it in there.

01:41:52.000 You could literally push it in there.

01:41:54.000 You could see his muscles and all his tendons and everything in there. 0.99

01:41:57.000 It was fucking crazy. 0.98

01:41:59.000 Kevin Redelman's staph. 0.99

01:42:00.000 Yeah, he's got one of the most famous staph infections ever.

01:42:04.000 It's horrible. 0.93

01:42:05.000 Animal, this guy.

01:42:06.000 My friend Ari and I, Ari was taking jujitsu for a while.

01:42:10.000 We were playing pool, and I noticed him walking around the pool table.

01:42:13.000 He's limping.

01:42:13.000 And I go, what's going on with you, man?

01:42:15.000 He goes, I think I got a spider bite on my knee.

01:42:17.000 Look at that.

01:42:18.000 Look at that. 1.00

01:42:19.000 God damn, that's crazy. 1.00

01:42:21.000 That is so crazy. 1.00

01:42:22.000 That's like systemic when it's that bad.

01:42:24.000 Yeah.

01:42:25.000 When it's that deep in your body.

01:42:26.000 So I looked at Ari. 0.93

01:42:28.000 I go, what?

01:42:28.000 I go, you got a spider bite.

01:42:30.000 I go, let me see your knee. 0.99

01:42:31.000 And he pulls his pants leg up.

01:42:33.000 And I go, dude, you have staph infection.

01:42:35.000 Listen to me right now.

01:42:36.000 You got to go to the hospital immediately.

01:42:39.000 He goes, what?

01:42:40.000 It was a big deal.

01:42:40.000 I go, no, no, no.

01:42:41.000 This could kill you. 0.93

01:42:42.000 I go, you have a real bad staph infection. 1.00

01:42:45.000 It was in like a fucking big whitehead. 0.99

01:42:47.000 I was like, go to the hospital right now. 1.00

01:42:50.000 He's like, are you serious?

01:42:50.000 I unscrewed my cue.

01:42:51.000 I go, dude, we're done.

01:42:52.000 I go, you got to go to the hospital.

01:42:54.000 I'll take you.

01:42:54.000 You want to go to the hospital right now?

01:42:55.000 He went to the hospital right then and there, and they were like, holy shit, bud. 0.99

01:42:58.000 They hooked him up. 0.99

01:43:00.000 He got it again, I think, afterwards.

01:43:03.000 Sometimes it can relapse when you get it bad.

01:43:05.000 When you get it in your system and you don't completely get it out of your system, sometimes it can come back.

01:43:10.000 A friend of mine had this blood poisoning.

01:43:14.000 From a low kick it was all like there was fluids in it and this little thing like a pinky thick purple line started going up on his body like towards the heart oh yeah you got to see that leg I mean they went in there they stapled it close with like 34 of those staples over his whole thigh.

01:43:34.000 He's got this scar.

01:43:35.000 Crazy scar.

01:43:36.000 Yeah.

01:43:36.000 From low kicks.

01:43:37.000 From low kicks.

01:43:38.000 That's nuts.

01:43:39.000 Didn't treat it.

01:43:40.000 Man.

01:43:40.000 Yeah, it just kept on working and something went wrong and becomes an infection.

01:43:44.000 Yeah, it starts clotting.

01:43:46.000 Don't have that.

01:43:47.000 You see how I did that?

01:43:47.000 Clotting?

01:43:48.000 I see.

01:43:48.000 I like that.

01:43:50.000 I like that.

01:43:51.000 That's fast.

01:43:52.000 What do you think? 1.00

01:43:53.000 I need to ask you about some certain shit. 0.99

01:43:55.000 Like, what do you think about the Jon Jones situation? 0.99

01:43:59.000 Like with John Jones testing positive, but saying it was a tainted supplement.

01:44:04.000 What do you think about all that?

01:44:05.000 I think as a...

01:44:06.000 Okay, I'll go back all the way back when you could do pretty much anything you wanted, right?

01:44:11.000 Right.

01:44:11.000 I brought my own bread, own food, everything to Japan.

01:44:14.000 If I would go to a hall, I would bring my own water.

01:44:16.000 I wouldn't drink the water they had there.

01:44:18.000 I heard all the war stories and fighting in foreign countries that they might taint it or do something.

01:44:23.000 Make sure.

01:44:24.000 Every product that you take as a professional athlete is your responsibility.

01:44:28.000 You know, so once that happens, and I thought that tainted supplement wasn't the same tainted supplement as Joel Romero had.

01:44:34.000 I believe it was that same tainted, and they have the same manager?

01:44:38.000 So their manager didn't say, hey, wait a minute, Joel Romero, maybe you shouldn't take this because I don't know 100% here.

01:44:45.000 I'm just talking.

01:44:46.000 Anyway, even if that's not the case, as a manager, you would say, I think from now on, you should buy only products that are on a list and you don't do anything else anymore just to make sure because people, you know, where the smoke is fire.

01:44:59.000 That's what people think.

01:45:00.000 It's always like, unfortunately, I was very happy with Joel Romero when he brought a product.

01:45:05.000 I said, that's the first guy who actually does that.

01:45:08.000 They took the product, got it off the market because it was in there, and it was clear.

01:45:12.000 They said, okay, fine.

01:45:13.000 Tim Means did the same thing.

01:45:15.000 Tim Means tested positive.

01:45:16.000 And he found it also?

01:45:17.000 They found it on the shelf.

01:45:18.000 They did an independent test of it, and they said, yep, it's in this stuff.

01:45:22.000 That's a real common thing.

01:45:24.000 A lot of baseball players have tested positive for the exact same thing that John tested for.

01:45:28.000 Apparently it's in a bunch of different supplements, but you get it in trace elements, or trace amounts. 0.84

01:45:34.000 You're not getting big amounts, and a lot of it comes from They take the same vats in China, wherever they make that shit, and they'll make some steroids, and then they'll fucking clean it out, but do a shitty job of cleaning it out, and then they'll make some creatine in there. 0.83

01:45:48.000 Yeah, it's like the gluten-free products, you know? 0.95

01:45:50.000 Because sometimes they use a machine that has product with gluten in there, and then it's tainted.

01:45:56.000 It's like that.

01:45:56.000 Yeah, it definitely can be.

01:45:58.000 It definitely can be.

01:45:59.000 You know, I've heard a bunch of crazy stories.

01:46:01.000 One of the craziest ones was they think that Cocaine sometimes they cut with creatine and creatine is often infected with this steroid that it's often tainted because, you know, you're getting cheap creatine from China and they use creatine to cut cocaine with.

01:46:16.000 I got a good idea.

01:46:17.000 Don't do cocaine if you're a fighter.

01:46:18.000 Wait a minute.

01:46:19.000 That's just crazy. 1.00

01:46:20.000 Boss, you're just crazy. 1.00

01:46:22.000 That doesn't even make sense. 1.00

01:46:23.000 Don't do cocaine.

01:46:23.000 When can he come back?

01:46:25.000 When he come back?

01:46:26.000 Joe?

01:46:26.000 I don't know.

01:46:27.000 I don't think they've done his hearing yet.

01:46:29.000 Oh, man.

01:46:30.000 What a talent.

01:46:30.000 What a waste.

01:46:32.000 I know.

01:46:32.000 They did the California hearing, but I think the Nevada State Athletic Commission and USADA, I think that's in April sometime.

01:46:39.000 I think it's this month.

01:46:40.000 I really hope we're going to see him soon.

01:46:41.000 I really hope he turns his life around.

01:46:43.000 He's the best.

01:46:44.000 Yeah, he's the best.

01:46:45.000 I mean, the impact that he can have on kids and on everything.

01:46:48.000 If he trains, fights four more years.

01:46:51.000 Just beat everybody.

01:46:53.000 And then go out.

01:46:54.000 I think he can still do it, too.

01:46:56.000 I think he can still come back and maybe, you know, look, it's clear, one thing is clear from his test, is that whatever he took was a tiny trace amount, and it must have been accidental, must have been.

01:47:07.000 This is according to Jeff Nowitzki, because if you look at right before that test, he tests negative, he tests positive for the tiniest amount, and then he tests negative again right afterwards.

01:47:17.000 Yeah, you see.

01:47:18.000 It's a tiny, tiny amount, so it has to be an accident, and it definitely didn't have any performance-enhancing benefit.

01:47:24.000 The levels that he took, they're talking about trace amounts.

01:47:27.000 But you see, this is where comes in play what he did before, and that's why he's getting penalized now, you see?

01:47:32.000 So you're always responsible for your actions.

01:47:35.000 That's what's happening now.

01:47:35.000 I mean, it cost him his title, too, which is so crazy.

01:47:38.000 I know, but you know, if somebody has a chance to do it back, what a comeback that would be.

01:47:42.000 I think he can do it.

01:47:43.000 Take it 100%.

01:47:44.000 I mean, you think about his victory over Daniel Cormier, the way he did it.

01:47:47.000 That left high kick and then puts it out on the ground.

01:47:49.000 The way he set it up.

01:47:50.000 The entire fight he was setting it up.

01:47:52.000 And I think that when he came back before the last break, that they said, okay, now he can let it fly.

01:47:56.000 I think you set him up enough.

01:47:58.000 I love that, man.

01:47:59.000 Making a pattern and then breaking the pattern.

01:48:01.000 I love that style of fighting.

01:48:05.000 He's such a talent.

01:48:08.000 But isn't it funny how some of those guys that are so talented are also so self-destructive?

01:48:13.000 It's so common.

01:48:13.000 It's because, but it's not only that.

01:48:16.000 It's talented, and because they're talented, it propels them up in the limelight, and suddenly they become somebody.

01:48:22.000 And it's like I said with Conor, you got all the yeas, nobody says no to you.

01:48:25.000 Right.

01:48:26.000 And if you have that constantly, 24-7 around you, yeah, you start becoming, you think you're God.

01:48:32.000 You can start doing things that other people can't, and you can!

01:48:35.000 That's the worst part.

01:48:36.000 I mean, that he didn't go to jail?

01:48:40.000 Think about it, what he did.

01:48:42.000 Right?

01:48:42.000 Hitting the woman, and then the drugs out of the car, and the woman was pregnant and she was injured.

01:48:46.000 I mean, that's a serious thing.

01:48:48.000 A normal person would have been in jail.

01:48:50.000 Right.

01:48:51.000 And with the money situation and how he changed suddenly with Cormier when they were filming them with the interview and they kept it rolling and they didn't know they were rolling.

01:49:01.000 And he starts, hey, how much money do you have?

01:49:02.000 I got so much more money.

01:49:03.000 I got this.

01:49:04.000 I got this.

01:49:04.000 And I go, dude, what are you doing?

01:49:07.000 It's a weird thing to say.

01:49:09.000 But then again, you think he was the youngest champion also.

01:49:12.000 Yeah, ever.

01:49:13.000 Right?

01:49:13.000 I mean, the guy is young.

01:49:14.000 I mean, I was an idiot. 1.00

01:49:16.000 I was an idiot when I started at 28. I was still a grown up. 1.00

01:49:19.000 I was completely crazy. 1.00

01:49:21.000 So that's why I never blame people because I know I was a complete idiot. 1.00

01:49:25.000 Right. 0.99

01:49:26.000 Well, you have a great perspective on it because of that.

01:49:28.000 Yeah.

01:49:28.000 Yeah, you've been there.

01:49:30.000 You know what it's like. 0.99

01:49:30.000 And you were a fucking wild man and now you're very calm except for when you occasionally punch a table. 0.99

01:49:36.000 Yeah, 13 hours is too long for a commercial shoot. 1.00

01:49:39.000 Don't do that.

01:49:40.000 I know what that's like, though.

01:49:41.000 They keep on wanting you to do it again. 1.00

01:49:43.000 You get angry, like, fuck. 1.00

01:49:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:49:45.000 No, it's an ego thing, too, because they said it's fine, but because they said it would be great.

01:49:49.000 You know, now it's in my head.

01:49:51.000 I go, I just want to do it for them, so I don't feel as bad as I go away, man.

01:49:55.000 Right, right.

01:49:56.000 It's just pushing it.

01:49:57.000 It's just saying no a little sooner.

01:49:58.000 That's the trick.

01:49:59.000 Do you miss Inside MMA? Yeah, I do.

01:50:02.000 I never, and I told this always, when I had a show, there's never been a show.

01:50:08.000 Imagine today was Friday, I had to film.

01:50:11.000 Never ever I thought, I wish I could stay home tonight.

01:50:14.000 I always wanted to go and meet whoever was there.

01:50:18.000 I loved that show.

01:50:19.000 It was great.

01:50:20.000 You saw the new talent.

01:50:21.000 That's where Conor McGregor comes in.

01:50:23.000 He was just starting and interviewing him.

01:50:25.000 It's great.

01:50:25.000 And then you see the old guys.

01:50:27.000 Don Fry and Coleman.

01:50:28.000 It was great.

01:50:29.000 It was a fun show.

01:50:30.000 What happened with it?

01:50:31.000 I think just numbers.

01:50:33.000 I think nowadays with everything streaming, there is no breaking news for us.

01:50:37.000 So it has to happen on Friday.

01:50:38.000 Someone should come along and reboot it and give you a show and just do it online where anybody can get a hold of it.

01:50:44.000 Do it on YouTube.

01:50:46.000 Yeah, but then also do it every day.

01:50:48.000 You can't compete with a show.

01:50:50.000 You can because that's happening now.

01:50:53.000 So you need to show a live show.

01:50:55.000 Like a podcast, but you need to do it every day.

01:50:58.000 Or when there's breaking news.

01:50:59.000 Yeah, well, every day is... 1.00

01:51:01.000 I mean, fuck, man. 1.00

01:51:02.000 If you did it every day, it would just take off if somebody just figured out how to do it and got you into a studio. 1.00

01:51:07.000 Yeah, but you know what?

01:51:08.000 We're waiting, first of all, for the Kevin Can Wait.

01:51:11.000 If that goes to the third season, I'm going to have to have that.

01:51:13.000 Then I got 11 shows with the Professional Fighters League.

01:51:16.000 I just started Karate Combat.

01:51:18.000 You're busy.

01:51:19.000 I'm good.

01:51:19.000 I would like to keep the free time free.

01:51:22.000 Are you a regular on Kevin Can Wait?

01:51:24.000 Yeah, well, I'm a regular on the show, but not a regular of the show.

01:51:28.000 That would be, if this goes to a third season, I become the cast pamper.

01:51:31.000 Oh.

01:51:32.000 Then it will be there.

01:51:33.000 What do you play on the show?

01:51:35.000 His neighbor.

01:51:36.000 Like last year, I think 16 or 17 episodes.

01:51:38.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:51:39.000 Yeah, the crazy guy, Rutger from Holland. 0.69

01:51:41.000 You know, he's not the smartest guy, not the sharpest knife in the drawer. 0.95

01:51:45.000 Very funny. 0.99

01:51:46.000 That's fucking great. 0.99

01:51:47.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:51:47.000 That's so cool that Kevin did that. 0.99

01:51:49.000 That's very cool.

01:51:50.000 And it happened because once Inside MMA stopped, he said, now you can finally do an appearance on a show.

01:51:56.000 Because they were filmed Friday nights in front of a live audience.

01:51:59.000 So I could never be on a show.

01:52:00.000 So I did a guest appearance.

01:52:02.000 The writers liked it.

01:52:03.000 They got me back.

01:52:04.000 And then I did four shows the first season at the end.

01:52:08.000 And then he called me and said, dude, they love you.

01:52:10.000 They want you for next year.

01:52:11.000 So I go, that's awesome.

01:52:13.000 That's amazing.

01:52:14.000 I said this 21 years ago, I believe against George Groves, when he interviewed me for SureDoc, what's just started SureDoc, 21 years ago.

01:52:23.000 And my dream job, he asked me about.

01:52:26.000 And long story short, my dream job would be to work in an American sitcom, I said.

01:52:30.000 And he said, you don't want to fight?

01:52:32.000 I said, no, I did all that.

01:52:34.000 I just want to make people laugh.

01:52:36.000 Look at you there.

01:52:37.000 Wow, that's hilarious.

01:52:39.000 Oh, it's so funny.

01:52:40.000 What a life that is, man.

01:52:42.000 A sitcom.

01:52:43.000 It's fun.

01:52:43.000 Everybody's happy.

01:52:44.000 Yeah, it's such a good time. 1.00

01:52:45.000 I did that shit for five years. 1.00

01:52:46.000 Yep. 1.00

01:52:47.000 Yeah.

01:52:48.000 It's interesting.

01:52:49.000 What happened with...

01:52:50.000 They were going to reboot it?

01:52:52.000 What was it?

01:52:53.000 Fear Factor?

01:52:54.000 They did reboot it with Ludacris.

01:52:56.000 Oh, so they didn't...

01:52:58.000 No, I wasn't going to do it.

01:52:59.000 Oh, yeah.

01:52:59.000 You're too busy, too, right?

01:53:00.000 You're all over the place.

01:53:01.000 I don't want...

01:53:01.000 Almost got into a fight.

01:53:02.000 Remember that?

01:53:03.000 Oh, on Fairfax?

01:53:04.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:53:05.000 Some silly guy. 1.00

01:53:06.000 Poor fuck. 1.00

01:53:08.000 Yeah, crazy people. 1.00

01:53:09.000 Yeah, that's the problem with a reality show, is you're dealing with all these wacky people that are trying to get famous, whereas you're on a sitcom, you're dealing with the other people that you're working with on a daily basis.

01:53:19.000 When I was on news radio, we were like a weird little dysfunctional family.

01:53:23.000 That's what happens in those sitcom sets.

01:53:26.000 You get very close to each other.

01:53:28.000 It's a great job, man.

01:53:30.000 It really is.

01:53:31.000 It's a great job if it's funny.

01:53:34.000 I'm laughing the whole time.

01:53:36.000 If people would have a camera on me, if I'm laying in bed going over the script, I didn't realize that almost everything they say is funny.

01:53:43.000 You don't catch that when you're watching.

01:53:45.000 But that's why the reruns are so good.

01:53:47.000 Every time you see new jokes, but pretty much everything is tied in together.

01:53:51.000 Every single line, you go, my God, this comes back from...

01:53:54.000 That scene before, it's all tied in.

01:53:56.000 Well, people don't realize what a good stand-up comedian Kevin is, too.

01:53:59.000 Yeah.

01:54:00.000 He's a very good writer.

01:54:01.000 He's a very, very good writer.

01:54:03.000 Very funny guy.

01:54:04.000 Yeah, a lot of fun.

01:54:05.000 He just doesn't have enough stand-up specials out where people don't appreciate how good he really is.

01:54:10.000 Yeah, he's going to do for the Netflix now.

01:54:11.000 Netflix doing the show now.

01:54:12.000 I'm happy.

01:54:13.000 Yeah.

01:54:13.000 I think you already filmed it.

01:54:15.000 Did you already film it?

01:54:15.000 I think so, too.

01:54:16.000 I think so, too.

01:54:16.000 I went to a few because once we were there, he started going to some...

01:54:21.000 Stand-up places, you know to start practicing because he was out for a little bit.

01:54:25.000 Yeah, and an album we started out together We have the same manager and I got him hooked up with my manager.

01:54:32.000 Yeah back in like fucking 1993 or some shit I don't even remember what year it was when Kevin and I were buddies in New York I remember you used roommates, right?

01:54:42.000 Also, we never lived together, but we were just like We were friends. 0.85

01:54:47.000 We were both like in our early, early 20s.

01:54:49.000 We were just starting out.

01:54:50.000 Yeah.

01:54:51.000 He told me that he used to watch Pancras with you.

01:54:54.000 Yeah.

01:54:54.000 And that's how he knew me.

01:54:56.000 Yeah.

01:54:56.000 And so when I came to America, I had this management right away calling to say, hey, he wants to meet you.

01:55:01.000 So that was cool.

01:55:01.000 That is cool.

01:55:02.000 Yeah, Kevin used to watch all that shit with me. 0.98

01:55:04.000 We used to watch Pancrase and the early K1 fights and everything, man. 0.99

01:55:09.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:55:09.000 Kevin is a fucking serious martial artist, too. 0.98

01:55:12.000 People have no clue. 0.99

01:55:13.000 People don't realize that.

01:55:13.000 He get hit, man.

01:55:15.000 He's got fucking power. 1.00

01:55:16.000 This is a cool thing. 1.00

01:55:17.000 When we're shooting, here comes the boom.

01:55:19.000 He, at the end, with Krzysztof Suszynski, when he lifts him up for the armbar, right?

01:55:23.000 So the scene is coming, and they bring in a crane with a cable, because it needs to be controlled, of course, for the film.

01:55:30.000 So he's asking, he says, oh, by the way, can I have your attention?

01:55:33.000 So all these extras are there.

01:55:35.000 And he says, Krzysztof, lay down.

01:55:36.000 So Krzysztof puts him in an armbar.

01:55:38.000 He lifts Christoph up above his head, puts him back, lifts him up above his head, brings him back, does it three times in a row.

01:55:43.000 He says, did you see that?

01:55:44.000 I just want to bring it out there so people can see because now the cable comes in, otherwise everybody says that I can't do it.

01:55:49.000 And everybody was like, what?

01:55:51.000 He just did that.

01:55:52.000 He just did it three times in a row.

01:55:53.000 He's a gorilla.

01:55:54.000 And his speed...

01:55:55.000 And his punches, if you see him, that's not sped up on here comes the boom.

01:56:00.000 I mean, the way he's hitting, what he's doing.

01:56:02.000 The very first time I was training him, I remember coming home and telling my, she says, and I said, man, he's a big guy, but dude, he listens to every little thing I say, and he will do it immediately.

01:56:12.000 I mean, his mind-body connection is really good.

01:56:15.000 It is really good.

01:56:16.000 Hand-eye coordination as well.

01:56:17.000 He's a really good golfer, too.

01:56:19.000 Yeah, he's a good dude.

01:56:20.000 I've known that guy forever.

01:56:22.000 All right, boss.

01:56:23.000 Hi!

01:56:24.000 I think we should wrap this up.

01:56:26.000 So karate.com if anybody wants to go.

01:56:28.000 Karate Combat.

01:56:29.000 And you said April 26th in Miami.

01:56:33.000 In Miami.

01:56:34.000 And you could stream it live on karate.com.

01:56:36.000 For free.

01:56:37.000 Give them your email address.

01:56:39.000 Boom.

01:56:39.000 And they hook it up.

01:56:40.000 And it should be fun.

01:56:42.000 And these guys, where are the athletes coming from?

01:56:45.000 All over the world, that's the greatest thing.

01:56:47.000 And if you have any, you know, contact these people, you know, because they listen to the fans.

01:56:52.000 So if you say, hey, man, please, are you thinking about the low kicks?

01:56:55.000 I heard it on Joe Rogan that we're talking about, you know, and maybe watch a few fights and see what you think.

01:56:59.000 And once you think, hey, yeah, it should be added, start emailing them.

01:57:03.000 Just talk about it, because they throw it in the group, they listen to the people, and then let's see what happens.

01:57:08.000 Well, I'm seeing a lot of six-packs, so I'm very impressed already.

01:57:12.000 They look good.

01:57:13.000 Boss Rooten, ladies and gentlemen.

01:57:14.000 Thank you, sir.

01:57:15.000 Always a pleasure, my brother.

01:57:16.000 Godspeed.

01:57:17.000 Godspeed to you as well.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 25, 2010

JRE MMA Show #22 with Bas Rutten

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