In this episode, I sit down with UFC welterweight champion Conor Mcgregor to talk about his recent loss to Michael Bisping, his recent diagnosis with ulcer colitis, and how he dealt with the aftermath of the fight. We talk about how he deals with his health issues, and what he did to overcome them. We also talk about what he would do if he was able to go back to a normal diet, and why he doesn t think he should have gone on a diet in the first place. This is a great episode to listen to, and I hope you enjoy it! If you like the show, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and Subscribe to our new podcast, The MMA Hour! Subscribe, Like, and Share to stay up to date with the latest MMA news and discuss the latest with your friends and colleagues! UFC 246 is coming soon. Subscribe today using our podcast s promo code POWER10 for 10% off your first pack! Enjoy & spread the word to your friends about UFC 246! Thanks for supporting the show! Cheers, Jon & Rory! -Jon Sorrentino & Rory - The MMA Jerks Subscribe to the MMA Hour Podcast! Subscribe, Share, Share & Retweet and spread the love, support us on social media using the hashtag , and spread some love, love, positivity, and positivity! . Thank you, Rory, Rory McIlroy & Cheers. - Jon Sorrenta - Rory McEliza <3 . . . - - Thank you for listening, Rory - Cheers! - Jon and Rory McAfee - Caitlyn ( ) @ - AJ Love, - RIP, ? - OJ & OJ # Thanks, Rory & OK ~ JCRY - P. (AJ & JK & JB :) - JB & JT & JV - SZ & JG & JH & JUICY :) - JJ & J.B. & JL & JAC & JF & JX & JM & JCR ) - M.A. & JP & JZ & P. B. & P& R
00:00:53.000The best theory is that before my last fight with Michael Bisping, I tried to put on weight, extra weight, so I followed a diet program that I was eating almost every two hours.
00:01:38.000And I said to myself, I said, this fight being...
00:01:42.000Delayed, not delayed, but postponed so many times that if I do something, if I say that publicly, what is going on, I'm going to lose the opportunity to fight for the title at 185. So I keep it shut.
00:01:56.000And I told myself, I said, whatever it is, I'll deal with it after the fight.
00:03:05.000I mean, it's not really the weight at this time because The weight that you weigh right now, depending on what you eat, you have a lot of stuff inside your intestine and everything.
00:03:42.000So you were just thinking that because you're going up to 185 and you're fighting a guy in Bisping that used to fight at 205, he's a pretty big guy.
00:04:11.000And so after the fight, now that you've gone back to a normal diet, has it changed?
00:04:15.000So after the fight, what happened, and it's very interesting, I got on medication, and I met a doctor, his name is Jason Fung, he's in Toronto.
00:05:10.000It's interesting because we're conditioned to think that I want to gain muscle, I need to eat more to accelerate my metabolism, but I never felt better in my life.
00:05:22.000If we would not be for that Particular issue.
00:06:35.000I'm very interested about paleontology and also history, and I know that human beings in hunter-gatherer time, they not eat three meals a day.
00:06:51.000So I think it's more natural for a human being to do so.
00:06:55.000And also, now I read a lot of stuff, and I watch a lot of stuff on the internet about intermittent fasting and time-restricted eating, and I just wish I knew that before.
00:07:05.000For so many years, I used to follow the rules, oh, we need to eat at least three times a day.
00:07:11.000I don't really care what I eat, but even though in the morning I was not hungry, I was always forcing myself to eat, which is bad.
00:09:52.000I was listening to Chad Mendez on a podcast the other day, and he was talking about how he's so hungry, he eats so much, he wakes up in the middle of the night and he goes and eats sometimes.
00:11:00.000It's because there's a spike of insulin.
00:11:02.000So when I started doing intermittent fasting and time-restricted eating, it was hard in the beginning because I was conditioned to eat all the time.
00:12:00.000I said to him, I said, yeah, I gained a lot of weight.
00:12:03.000He said, don't you think I'm going to lose muscle?
00:12:05.000He says to me, he believed that the weight that I put on, because now I'm about 185 pounds, and when I trained for Bisping, I went up to 197. After the weigh-in, I couldn't put back that weight up, so I was 190. He believed that The extra weight that I had was more water retention and residual inside my body.
00:13:26.000I can touch my two shoulders like this.
00:13:28.000When you came back, it's very interesting because with a lot of people, they take time off and then they come back and you wonder what they're going to look like.
00:13:36.000But one of the things that I was very hopeful with you is that you've always been...
00:13:41.000Almost a martial artist first and a fighter second in that you're always learning and you're always practicing.
00:13:49.000Like, you would always take time in between camps and you would, you know, do jiu-jitsu in Brazil or you would be constantly practicing your Muay Thai.
00:13:57.000You're always trying to learn and improve your game.
00:13:59.000And I was thinking when you came back, it was like, you were saying that you were better than ever.
00:14:04.000I'm like, man, he might be better than ever.
00:14:06.000Like, you're the one guy that I believed.
00:14:09.000Because a lot of times guys come back and you're like...
00:14:11.000Man, he's been out of the game a long time.
00:14:14.000Who knows how hard he's been training?
00:14:15.000Because a lot of fighters, when they're not in camp, when they're not preparing for a fight, they don't like to train that much.
00:14:22.000Because the grind of camp almost wears them.
00:14:26.000You know how you see a lot of fighters after they retire, they get really fat?
00:16:02.000But the reason why I think I didn't lose the edge is a lot of people because we do an extreme sport.
00:16:09.000It's like what we do is kind of a life and death situation.
00:16:14.000It's not because there's a referee but the spirit is the same as a gladiator or a A person in a war that goes to war, he thinks he's gonna die.
00:17:28.000You know, people to fight, you say, no, I don't like to fight.
00:17:31.000And that is another thing I like to talk to you about.
00:17:34.000People say, why you do that if you don't like to fight?
00:17:37.000It's like, because I like my lifestyle, you know, that it gives me.
00:17:40.000But that's why people, I believe, if we come back to what you say, That's why I think people, they have a hard time to come back after so many years because they fall into that trap.
00:17:49.000They need to feel alive so they find ways to make them feel alive but it's...
00:18:49.000And finally, a lot of people in the beginning, including my own friend, they think, like, I was talking to some of my own friends, and they say, oh, you're paranoid.
00:22:34.000That's the opposite of what a lot of people think a training camp should be for a champion.
00:22:38.000It depends what kind of, you know, we don't train like this every day, but for my heart sparring, when I'm training for a fight, I have two days.
00:22:47.000For my last training camp, I had two days that it was like hard sparring.
00:22:50.000We called it shoot box fight, shoot box fighting, which we put the big gloves, the shin pad, and his feet to floor.
00:22:59.000Once we touch the floor, we stop and we go back up.
00:23:03.000And that was the area of expertise where Bisping was the most competent, the striking department.
00:23:11.000He's going on the floor, so I... I was bringing in a lot of good guys for sparring with me in that particular training.
00:23:21.000It's hard to find someone that is exactly like the guy you're going to fight, but you can find a guy that does things better than him in a particular area.
00:23:32.000I cannot find a replica of Michael Bisping, who's complete as much as Michael Bisping, but I can find a guy, for example, at a...
00:23:40.000A guy coming from Spain, his name is Cesar.
00:24:21.000Skarboski So Charles Skarboski Yeah, when you When you brought him to work with you on the ultimate fighter and he would be partying all night Drunk and show up at the gym the next day and still fuck everybody up.
00:24:38.000Yeah Did that guy influence your idea about just being more relaxed in training and just not worrying about it as much?
00:24:50.000Yeah, but it's a totally different extreme.
00:24:58.000But Jean-Charles, I remember the producer of the show, The Ultimate Fighter, when he was supposed to stay one week, and when he was about to stay, the producer was telling me, hey, can we keep him for the rest of the show?
00:25:11.000Because it was good TV. So I'm like, I don't know, I'm going to ask him.
00:25:15.000And at the same time, A lot of the people on my team, they were like, man, okay, that's enough.
00:28:55.000I will know where I can take you out of your comfort zone and I can bring the fight where I'm the strongest and fight you to eliminate the odds where the fight will slope the odds of me winning to my advantage.
00:29:13.000That's where John and Ferraz are master at this and Freddie Roach is master at this in boxing.
00:29:50.000When you're approaching a fight, like say Michael Bisping, how do you do it?
00:29:56.000You say, this is what I see in his fights, and then Feroz gives his input, and John gives his input, and then Freddy gives his input, and you start discussing what's the best way to handle it?
00:30:06.000So coming into that fight with Michael Bisping, Michael Bisping was very well prepared.
00:30:10.000He has a very good team with Jason Parello.
00:30:17.000You always have to gauge also to know you and to know your opponent.
00:30:23.000Sometimes knowing your opponent is easier than to know yourself.
00:30:28.000So you have to be realistic about your strengths and weaknesses and how you're going to match up against your opponent.
00:30:37.000With Michael Bisping, what messed me up a little bit, and all of us, is we were expecting Michael Bisping to come straight at me, try to take me out right away.
00:30:49.000Instead of that, he was moving, especially more in the second round.
00:30:53.000So the first round, I was doing well, but in the second round, he started moving away and being more...
00:31:01.000Instead of coming at me, it was more trying to run away from me.
00:31:05.000And that's why a lot of people, they said to me, man, because I lost the second round against Michael Bisping.
00:31:11.000And people was like, man, what happened to you?
00:31:13.000It seems like you slowed down a little bit.
00:33:09.000Then I had to make adjustments for the third round.
00:33:11.000That's when Freddie, John, and Ferraz come into play.
00:33:16.000They saw what he was doing and they say after the right hand just slip and come with the hook over the top and the right hand that's what I did and then knock him down and but in a fight Whatever your trainer tells you, if you didn't practice it, it's not going to work.
00:36:32.000Technical and tactical, which is the most important one.
00:36:36.000He didn't have the tactical preparation.
00:36:40.000Physical was not probably 100% as well.
00:36:44.000And the technical is there because it's his brain, but, you know, it's like he didn't program his autopilot to react to a certain situation that Kelvin will give him.
00:36:55.000He's a lefty, shorter, stockier, you know, different style than me.
00:37:13.000It worked for him in the past, but he didn't get knocked down or choked out before he fought Rock O. That messed up your recuperation too, you know what I mean?
00:40:12.000And Michael says to me, he's like, Don't you F put your hand on me again because na-na-na-na-na.
00:40:18.000Then I look in his face and I'm like, what?
00:40:22.000I'm like, you don't put your hand on me again.
00:40:23.000And then he creates kind of a buzz for the fight and we start to shout at each other and kind of almost boost each other and then Jason Perulo comes, boys!
00:50:09.000Now, after you won the title, there was thoughts of whether or not you would defend it, if you were going to fight Robert Whittaker, like what you were going to do.
00:51:31.000For me, my family and everything, I think I'm good.
00:51:35.000However, when I'm looking at the landscape, I see a lot of guys like, for example, Conor McGregor, he holds on to the title for the attention, the sponsors, this and that.
00:55:03.000And I don't think it was on Nate Diaz's part as well, because from what I've heard, his brother, Nick, and even Nate says that's his big brother's fight.
00:56:47.000You would be a better fighter than this guy in that particular day, at that particular location, at that particular moment.
00:56:56.000Maybe in an hour, if the fight would occur an hour later, an hour before, or maybe in a different place where the altitude is higher or lower or different scenario, different environment, you will lose that fight.
00:57:38.000You're not the stronger man in the world.
00:57:40.000I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but it is what it is.
00:57:44.000If you ask most experienced fighters, most people will think the same way.
00:57:48.000Because we realize at one point, like, when we're young because of our confidence or maybe the cockiness or our confidence, Not that it fades, but we see, we have more experience, knowledge.
00:58:02.000We realize it's all BS. It's not true.
00:59:41.000You can get or maybe not die, but it could create your death now.
00:59:46.000In the next time to come, in the next year, maybe you get a blow that messed up something in your brain because of a trauma that creates something else.
01:00:55.000And you need to be surrounded by smart people.
01:00:57.000And if you don't have smart people, you need to be smart enough to find those people that are competent, that will help you in particular domain that you're not competent to make the job for you and complete.
01:03:31.000Oh yeah, I put something in the IV of his brother.
01:03:33.000So he said, if I want to take care of that, I don't know, he said it in his own word, like in English slang, like, if you want to take care of this, I'm there.
01:03:43.000He said someone poisoned him recently.
01:06:00.000I think weed, I don't know if it's weed, but I think it's maybe weed with social environment and genetic can create some kind of disorder in the brain and make you have the conspiracy problem.
01:08:10.000He's the kind of guy that keep coming at you, keep coming at you, and he's good at taking shots, surviving, that keep coming, keep coming at you.
01:08:20.000It's terrifying because you got tired and this guy keep coming at you and he make you feel like you claustrophobic and you you do things at him and he keep coming and he's very nervous and they lay around like after like three four rounds like man it's like it's very he never gets tired It doesn't get terrible.
01:13:16.000I wouldn't miss a paycheck, but I wouldn't have enough, you know what I mean?
01:13:21.000So you don't want to say whether or not you suspect that Johnny Hendricks is doing something, but there was people that were definitely doing something.
01:15:34.000If you play baseball or you're in a fighting, you see the things coming, you have your reaction time, you're sharper in the brain.
01:15:41.000What makes a guy athletic, it's not his muscle.
01:15:44.000The reason why Usain Bolt is you run faster, there's many reasons why, but one of the main reasons is because his brain, his nervous system is better.
01:15:53.000And if you make your nervous system better and more competent, better, you're a better athlete, man.
01:17:07.000They have it, and they don't know whether or not people are taking it, but they're taking testosterone as derived from animals, not from wild yams.
01:17:16.000The way they get testosterone now, if you get a testosterone injection, they're getting it from wild yams.
01:17:36.000Yeah, the plant-based wild yam testosterone.
01:17:40.000But now they're able to get it from animals.
01:17:44.000And the animal testosterone, they do carbon isotope tests, and the carbon isotope tests don't detect the difference between animal testosterone and human testosterone.
01:18:28.000I think 9 out of the 10 or 8 out of the...
01:18:32.000Like, the guy that finished, like, 8th, like, he was a Brazilian guy, then he got interviewed, he said, yeah, it was just a line fillers for the main guy.
01:18:57.000I mean, when you go to the Tour de France, when he won, and then they took his title away, all the people that were below him were also guilty.
01:20:30.000I've been offered, man, to sometimes to go train and like some deals, you know, like go train and do something, being part of, you know, like they have a, they take sample of your blood, they know what is missing, then they put the stuff that is missing, make you, I said, no, I'd rather stay in Montreal, you know, like I, and I don't say in Montreal, it could be a lot of cheaters too.
01:20:54.000That's the thing, you accuse a gym of cheating, you cannot accuse a gym of cheating because everybody is different, you know?
01:21:00.000There's people cheating everywhere now.
01:21:02.000You can't say, oh, these people are cheating.
01:22:12.000I could get more maybe in the future, but I don't want to go that path to try to risk everything.
01:22:18.000What did you think when testosterone replacement therapy was a thing and they were allowing people like Vitor and these people to take testosterone?
01:22:32.000It's a different case for everybody, but I believe if you need to take the medication to compete, performance and medication to compete, you shouldn't be allowed.
01:22:54.000If it's for the well-being, if it's an older man who cannot have sex with his wife and he's like, man, he goes to the doctor, he's like, man, I lose the edge a little bit.
01:23:05.000The doctor will say, yeah, I put the cream that will increase your testosterone.
01:23:08.000And the guy is happy to have sex with his wife.
01:25:57.000I think maybe it's 100 years, maybe it's 50 years, but whatever it is, in that amount of time, you're going to be dealing with people that are basically superheroes.
01:26:22.000Like, do you think we'll pass the bar of nine seconds one day?
01:26:25.000It's theoretically not impossible in a way.
01:26:28.000Like, I mean, at one point there's a line that you can't, like, you know, you can't diminish the time, but it's like a curves, you know, like you can't, you know.
01:26:36.000But if we get that sort of performance enhancing drug, that would be crazy.
01:26:41.000But there'll probably be some sort of a side effect to it and some sort of a downside to it.
01:26:45.000You know, they'll probably die younger, their tissue will diminish faster, but who knows?
01:26:49.000Maybe they'll be able to regenerate stuff.
01:26:51.000If you talk to some doctor that knows, like I know you have done, they said that steroid, like performance enhancing drug, if you do it, if they do it well, some people don't have any side effects of it.
01:30:38.000Close to 200. I saw Tony Ferguson, he was posting pictures, he was 200. I never been naturally 200. When I fought Bespring, at one point I was almost 200. I was like, big guy.
01:33:26.000And if I do that, it's very dangerous.
01:33:29.000I want to do something that I'm like, the 155, I'm like, I never did it before, title, or beating a certain guy that is on a freaking rise.
01:33:39.000Well, that would be Khabib then, because Nate has already beaten Conor.
01:38:28.000I have a friend and one of his good friends has a ranch in Montana and he found something on the ranch and he called this paleontologist and they went to his ranch and they shut the place down like, dude, you got a T-Rex here.
01:40:29.000And because this ground, it does feel like, you know, if you've ever seen a lake bed, if the water recedes, it's got that silty sort of weird mud.
01:40:38.000This is all, the whole ground is like this.
01:42:40.000And then after I found out, you read a lot about that stuff, like the Sumerian text, the creation tablet, Zacharization, and all that stuff.
01:43:09.000But if they're that far advanced from us and they come from a different world, maybe they don't want to interact because we have nothing to offer them.
01:43:17.000They're not going to kidnap the farmer and ask him what kind of suspension he's wearing.
01:46:22.000It's entirely possible that we're experiencing something when we're dreaming, that we're sleeping, when we're unconscious, that maybe there's dimensions that consciousness travels to that are non-physical.
01:46:34.000That like this dimension, where we're in right now, we can touch this table, move this microphone around, these are physical dimensions.
01:46:41.000But it's entirely possible that whatever your spirit is, or your consciousness, or your mind, when you're thinking of your thoughts and your soul, You said you're a soul.
01:47:00.000It has religious connotations, but the idea of whatever your essence is as a human being, there's something inside of all of us that makes us conscious and aware and there.
01:47:12.000And then that something is not there when you're sleeping.
01:47:17.000Is it just recovering, which is, you know, the scientific version of it?
01:47:21.000Or is it possible that while you're in this dream state and your body shuts off, that your mind and your consciousness travels to a non-physical dimension that you can only access through the chemicals that are released in your brain, which we know produce psychedelic experiences?
01:47:40.000So if you took the chemicals that are released during your brain or inside your brain like dimethyltryptamine and there's all sorts of different psychedelic chemicals that are produced by the mind.
01:47:54.000If you take these outside of the dream state, if you take these drugs, you have these crazy fantastic experiences.
01:48:01.000And we know these are produced by the brain.
01:48:07.000They're produced by the liver and the lungs.
01:48:09.000We believe they're produced by your third eye, which is your pineal gland.
01:48:13.000They've shown, the Cottonwood Research Foundation has shown that this is done in rats, that rats produce dimethyltryptamine in their pineal gland.
01:48:21.000It doesn't necessarily mean that people do, but it's logical to imply that people probably or conclude that people probably do it as well.
01:48:28.000So those chemicals that are producing these psychedelic experiences are being released by the brain, but we don't know why and we don't know what they're doing.
01:48:37.000When you sleep, like you have a guy, Matthew Walker.
01:49:22.000Is it scary to think that when you die, you're just gone and nothing happens?
01:49:27.000Or is it scary to think that your consciousness leaves this physical dimension and goes into what's essentially a well of souls?
01:49:35.000Just a dimension, a non-physical dimension of consciousness where all consciousness interacts with each other and it's just geometric patterns That don't have a physical being attached to them.
01:49:48.000It's hard for me to believe the consciousness is not material.
01:49:54.000Because let's say you would say, sometimes people have, they say, oh, he's a good person, he's a bad person.
01:49:58.000I don't believe there is good and bad person.
01:50:01.000I believe there is no people, no baby born good or bad.
01:50:05.000I believe it's your environment that makes, that shape you.
01:51:08.000Completely different person that you knew before.
01:51:10.000So if they say the mind, your brain, your brain is materialism, but your mind is not.
01:51:19.000So if you have an accident, like my friend, and you have some sort of dementia or something, that means if it's not materialism, it would not happen.
01:51:30.000It's possible, but it's also possible.
01:52:56.000But there are people that believe that consciousness is non-local and that the body actually is just like an antenna for your consciousness.
01:53:04.000Now if the body is damaged, if your hormonal balance is all fucked up, your neurological system is out of whack.
01:53:11.000One of the things that Muhammad Ali said when they were talking to him about his Parkinson's is that he's still in there.
01:53:19.000He just can't express himself because his body had been damaged by so many fights and so many hard sparring sessions and so many blows to the head that he wasn't capable of expressing himself, but inside he was still the same guy, but he was trapped.
01:53:35.000His consciousness was trapped in a broken body.
01:53:38.000It's like a prison, like a locomotion system.
01:53:43.000And you know, when you think about CTE, like a lot of these football players, like you know that Aaron Hernandez guy that was a murderer?
01:53:50.000And he was a football player and they examined his brain after he was dead.
01:53:53.000And like, this is one of the worst cases of CTE we've ever seen.
01:53:56.000After he killed himself in prison, they examined him.
01:53:59.000And the idea is that your consciousness is supposed to be expressing itself through a healthy brain.
01:54:06.000Right, through healthy hormones, a healthy endocrine system, a healthy neurological system, and that in that way your brain can, your consciousness can express itself and do so without any physical hindrances.
01:54:20.000Then there's also psychological hindrances.
01:54:39.0001 years old, you're not the same person at 15, and 15, you're not the same as 30. 30, you're not the same as 60. I think there's no independence.
01:57:03.000Like, oh, you're a world champion, you work for it.
01:57:05.000I was like, yeah, but I have no choice.
01:57:07.000So I have no, no, I don't deserve any props because I have no choice.
01:57:11.000Right, you are the product of your life experiences.
01:57:13.000To me, that's what makes the most sense for me.
01:57:16.000People think I'm crazy, but I have an argument with a lot, sometimes, like, a lot of religious people, they say, oh, yeah, this or that, but, like, I, I, that's why I believe.
01:57:25.000I believe sometimes, like, it doesn't mean I don't believe in God or I don't, it doesn't mean I'm different, like, in my belief, but I believe.
01:57:53.000I've heard it – I mean, Sam Harris argued it to me the best and made me really reconsider.
01:57:59.000And Robert Sapolsky, who is a famous scientist and deals with a lot of the functions of the human brain in terms of like our motivations for things, his take was that in the future it will be – you know, when we look back today at like people that burn people for witchcraft and stuff like that, how foolish they are.
01:58:20.000He thinks we will have the same reaction to people judging and punishing people based on their behaviors.
02:00:49.000So if you play a pool, If I can measure the strength that I hit the ball, ricochet on certain ball, if I can measure everything precisely, I will know where all the balls are ending up on the table.
02:01:39.000Right, and then when you see people that are doing good things and achieving good things, it motivates you to do good things and achieve things, and that also changes all the people around you and makes them move in a certain direction as well.
02:01:53.000And if you look at certain cultures that are extremely negative and crime-ridden and fucked up, they produce extremely negative, crime-ridden, fucked up people.
02:02:05.000And that's one of the things that people really criticize, and I think rightly so, about like hardcore right-wing people that think everyone should be responsible for their own actions.
02:02:15.000I don't care if you grow up in a crime-ridden neighborhood.
02:02:17.000You stop doing crime, and you be a good person, and that's not an easy task.
02:02:22.000The brain has no way to know if an information is relevant or not.
02:03:59.000But yeah, but I only did that because he did this.
02:04:01.000And you have these little stupid arguments in your head instead of just saying hi and just being friendly or saying you're sorry or saying, hey, man, I don't have a problem with you.
02:09:59.000Like I said, I don't believe only one thing influenced me, but it's many things, many causes that make that happen, but maybe it's one of the causes, yes.
02:13:13.000I'm diplomatic with a lot of people, but I'm not friends with a lot of people.
02:13:18.000I'm diplomatic because I have to be for my work, for my business, for the person I am, and I don't like confrontation, so I'm diplomatic.
02:13:25.000But it doesn't mean I like everybody, you know?
02:13:27.000Well, I think your relationships that you have with people, the exchanges you have with people, it's very important to keep only positive, influential, strong people around you because you learn and you grow from those people.
02:13:41.000When you're around people who are inspirational or doing interesting things, who live their life by a code, who are ambitious, who succeed, who try hard, difficult things, Those are the people that inspire and give you energy.
02:17:14.000The feeling of uncertainty that you don't know if you're going to be humiliated, you're going to be the victor, you're going to be the loser.
02:17:22.000I care so much about it that it's freaking unbearable.
02:17:25.000As much as I try to dismiss it, it's unbearable.
02:17:30.000However, I like the fact that I'm a free man.
02:19:09.000And the closer I get to the day, I love it, but I start to hate it more.
02:19:15.000It's like a hate that build-up, like a bubble of hate.
02:19:20.000And by the time that it's time to freaking walk out, like the many seconds that it's time to walk out, And like Burt Watson used to be the guy who used to kick out the door.
02:20:07.000They told themselves before I get in the room, don't tell them that Amen lost.
02:20:12.000Don't tell him it's going to affect him.
02:20:14.000So I get in the room and my friend Eddie, who wasn't there when they told each other, first thing he says to me is like in the room, he's like, hey, Amen lost.
02:24:18.000Even in the locker room when I got there, when I got there that night, like every other night that I'm fighting, ask my agent, ask even Ferraz.
02:24:27.000I always tell my look at him, I was like, so what the hell I'm doing here?
02:30:38.000Because they're not aware of all the possibilities, and they're not aware of all their flaws, and they're not aware of all their strengths and weaknesses.
02:30:44.000They just know what they've done that's worked, and they just keep doing that.
02:30:48.000And instead of developing this incredibly well-rounded game, they have a very, very limited game.
02:30:54.000But that limited game works on some people.
02:44:41.000John Danner will make me be more creative, have better ambars, and Feras will make me, you know what I mean, like a better fighter in terms of giving me knowledge and different things.
02:44:51.000That's what I believe could be wrong, Joe.
02:44:53.000I know we think different ways in that regard.
02:44:56.000We argued before about this, but that's what I believe.
02:47:48.000Yeah, that's because of his form, the way he transfers his weight, his vector of force, everything, his technique, his timing, his precision, everything is perfect.
02:47:57.000It's bone structure, too, a little bit, too, right?
02:48:40.000Because it's your form, the technique, the vector of force, your technique.
02:48:44.000Everything is all freaking perfect, your timing.
02:48:47.000That's why when you turn and you make that spin, like, I don't care who you are, if you're Francis Ngandou, you hit that shit on the face, you're gonna be dead, you know?
02:48:56.000Not dead, but you're gonna be knocked out, man.
02:52:55.000Yeah, that's a fucking scratchy VHS video from 1986. Bro, you realize you didn't even cut him, like, you know we talk about precision, like, there was like, like, your technique is freaking, but it's so powerful, like, you cut him where, on the shoulder?
02:53:54.000And I was raised in a Taekwondo school that came from the old school Taekwondo before tournaments.
02:54:02.000See, General Choi, Choi Hyun-hee, he trained, he was the inventor of Taekwondo, the founder of Taekwondo, and he trained a small handful of elite instructors.
02:54:13.000And one of them was Jae Hyun Kim, who was my instructor.
02:54:16.000So my Taekwondo background was old school Taekwondo.
02:54:21.000Before Olympic, it was even a consideration.
02:57:50.000Rick Rufus, when he fought that Thai fighter, there's a really important fight when Rick fought this guy and the guy just chopped his fucking legs out front of him.
02:59:42.000Seriously, it's because I really got to bounce, but this weekend, I have something important this weekend, but man, I need to be a Montreal Saturday, but shit, I would have...
03:00:35.000Like the fight Tyrone would live with Wonderboy, I was watching the fight, he's like, it's so boring, I can't believe it!
03:00:41.000It's like, dude, you just don't understand that if Wonderboy, you go with Wonderboy and you charge him like this, you know what I mean?
03:00:49.000I don't want to talk about it, he's my friend, and I don't want to talk about it for Darren Till if he listens to this, because Wonderboy is my friend.