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00:00:49.000So I've had this nagging muscle in my hip, and then, like, instantaneously, this fucking thing, you hold it, folks, and you get it, like, right on a spot.
00:04:22.000Yeah, you can freeze them because that helps kill the pain.
00:04:24.000So if you have an acute injury and after like a week or two and you want to start working on it, the cold of the tip It helps numb the pain.
00:06:04.000When you get that nagging tight muscle in your neck, in your shoulder, your shoulder blades, And then you're on the mat, you do a quick movement, you know?
00:06:13.000I had something going on in my neck, I guess, and I didn't realize how bad it was, and I turned in the shower to get something, and it popped.
00:07:44.000So he has a few different exercises to help you correct it.
00:07:47.000So you put a band around your knees and you kind of push out on the band.
00:07:49.000But really what we do is we'll make George do a lift or a jump, film it, send it to Kelly, and he'll tell us how aligned we are and what directions to go.
00:07:56.000So he kind of coaches us on how to avoid this fault.
00:08:01.000However, really, at the end of the day, it's about keeping your knees turned to the outside.
00:08:06.000I used to walk up the stairs and have a pain in my knee.
00:08:09.000Do you ever have that, when you walk upstairs?
00:11:06.000However, if you want to separate The material by bending it at the middle is very easy, but to compress it, to compress material on itself, it takes a tremendous amount of energy.
00:11:16.000Right, so anytime you're going outside of your alignment, you're allowing things to compress.
00:11:21.000Yeah, that's why it makes so much sense to keep your legs straight when you're hiking.
00:12:32.000But if you can bring this foot behind your head and your hips, the window, the space that I need to cross to get to side control is so small.
00:13:07.000It's like they just spin a little bit and you're back in something again and you're tied up and then you add in leg locks and you're kind of fucked.
00:13:23.000And it's so devastating when you have a hip injury.
00:13:25.000Hip injuries and, you know, I know guys who have had hip replacements and it's like, boy, you know, then you're so severely limited in what you can do afterwards.
00:13:34.000You got to never let it get there, in my opinion.
00:13:36.000According to Kelly, he says your joints can last you 120 years.
00:14:26.000It's the balance between being tough And, you know, being mentally strong enough to like push through training when you're, you know, you're not feeling your best and knowing that you're fucking up your vehicle.
00:14:38.000Knowing that you're fucking up your body.
00:15:57.000Yeah, and that stuff is fantastic for inflammation.
00:16:01.000People that have soreness and nagging injuries and nagging inflammation, having that as a part of your daily diet is fantastic, along with fish oil.
00:16:23.000If you have any sort of back injury or inflammation.
00:16:27.000I talked to this lady who was a therapist a few years back, and she was saying, you know, you should really try going gluten-free if you have issues with your back.
00:16:35.000I was like, listen to this wacky bitch.
00:16:46.000She's like, you'd be amazed at how many people...
00:16:48.000And now that I've thought about it more, and with all I know, talking to various nutritionists and actual clinical researchers, I think it's as much gluten as it is just...
00:17:00.000Just sugar, refined carbohydrates and sugars and all these different things just create inflammation.
00:18:58.000Look, this is just my observation, but I think some people, when they eat carbs, they spike their insulin, and they can get fat if they eat too much carbs.
00:19:07.000And some people eat a tremendous amount of carbs, and they never get fat.
00:19:10.000We all have a friend who eats a lot of junk food and is ripped.
00:19:14.000There are not many in the world, but they exist.
00:21:51.000There's a problem with this conversation.
00:21:52.000I always thought ectomorph was really skinny, endomorph was, they tend to lean towards being overweight, and then mesomorph was someone who's like, really, like a Francis Ngannou.
00:25:32.000Even your personality is very important.
00:25:34.000If he tried to fight like Tyson, it would backfire.
00:25:36.000If Tyson tried to fight like Muhammad Ali, it would backfire.
00:25:39.000I think everybody has to start with the basics, and then after three, four years of training, even maybe up to five years, now you gotta specialize for what your temperament is, what your body type is, what your personality is, because not everybody wants to get it done in round one, and not everybody is the type of person who's gonna take it to the cards, and not everybody has a reach and speed to jab in and out.
00:26:00.000A lot of people think, oh, I'm just gonna jab in and out like Ali.
00:26:02.000Dude, you have the attributes that Ali has.
00:27:03.000You know, one thing when people spar with me, they're like, man, you move so like, you know, people are like, it's so seamless the way you move.
00:27:08.000And I do thousands of hours of live rolling and sparring.
00:27:12.000But a lot of those hours, I would say 80% of them is very light.
00:28:17.000As he goes through his experiences, especially in the first three years of his life, his brain literally gets hardwired and wrinkled.
00:28:23.000And it gets less and less wrinkled over time.
00:28:25.000And when you're hardwired to do something...
00:28:29.000The likelihood of you needing to tune up is very minimal.
00:28:34.000For instance, I remember looking at the biography of Mayweather and he was saying when he would go to picnics with his family, his father would bring boxing gloves and he would box with his cousins.
00:28:42.000They literally would be punching each other.
00:29:41.000And then when I really want to have a good challenge, I'll take one of my elite guys, one of my pros, and I'll do one or two rounds with them.
00:29:55.000When you guys get ready for a fight, like say if you get George ready for a fight, how much time do you spend on working on his recovery from the workouts?
00:30:05.000Do you bust out the Tim Tam machine and ice things down?
00:31:10.000If it's too easy, he's going to be bored.
00:31:12.000I have to find the right amount of stimulus.
00:31:14.000So when I'm in the practice room, if I see Georgia just mauling guys and destroying them, I have to scale the workout so that it's harder.
00:31:21.000But I don't want to scale it so high that I injure him and break him or that he made it out of practice by a hair and that he's not motivated to do another camp.
00:31:29.000We reach those high intensity levels periodically throughout the year and they have to be done in a certain way that it's fun.
00:31:36.000You know George was on your show and he was saying, I'll try to kill him in the practice room.
00:32:23.000If you put George on his back, if you take him down, put him on his back, I'll stop the whole practice and praise you for 20 minutes in front of everybody in the gym.
00:32:31.000And students don't get praised by me very often.
00:32:34.000So George would be like, oh my God, these guys, they're coming after me.
00:35:22.000Yeah, that's you know Forrest Griffin got knocked out twice before his fight with Anderson Silva Twice And apparently one of them was real bad.
00:36:10.000But the thing about getting knocked out is that if you get knocked out two weeks ago, your odds of getting knocked out are significantly higher.
00:37:08.000When you look at the crop of up-and-coming talent, this is such a crazy time for MMA. I think when you look at these new guys, like Zabit is one of my favorite guys to watch, because he's this new crop of guys that can do everything.
00:37:25.000And they're so high level by the time you see them.
00:37:28.000Like, the first fight I saw of Zabit inside the Octagon, you know, I've seen him on video before, but seeing him live, you're like, holy shit!
00:37:44.000We've seen these elite fighters and everyone's great at jujitsu, everyone's got great takedown defense, everyone knows how to strike, but then you're seeing this new flavor.
00:37:57.000And it just seems to me that every year or so, There's these new guys that jump through and you're going, okay, well now the frequency is quite a bit higher than it was before.
00:38:49.000When you stop and think about when you first got involved in the sport and then look at the level that fighters are at now, there's not really a commensurate sport in terms of modern mainstream sports.
00:39:00.000Where people have achieved such an incredibly high level of proficiency that so far exceeds where it was a decade ago or two decades ago.
00:39:34.000See, the more you limit an athlete, the more it's about torque.
00:39:38.000So, for instance, if you look at sprinting.
00:39:40.000If I were to race Hussein Bolt, and I had all the best trainers, the best sprint coaches, and Hussein Bolt had the most mediocre sprint coaches, and we race when we're both 20 years old in our prime, who's going to win?
00:40:34.000There's a talent there to be in the 1%.
00:40:38.000But to get you to UFC, because there are so many possibilities, there are so many ways to trick your opponent, there are so many ways to turn the tables on him, the torque no longer matters.
00:40:57.000But in MMA, you're allowed to trick me any which way you want.
00:40:59.000There are very few little rules, okay?
00:41:02.000But outside of these bard rules, these bard maneuvers, you can trick me any which way you want.
00:41:07.000So what happens is you take your opponent into a maze.
00:41:09.000You take your opponent into a world where torque doesn't matter so much.
00:41:12.000And that's why the more restrictive a sport is, let's say for instance boxing.
00:41:17.000Boxing is more restrictive than Muay Thai.
00:41:19.000So the guys with torque are gonna do better in boxing than they will necessarily in Muay Thai, because in Muay Thai I can use more trickery.
00:41:25.000I could be a little dweeb and just beat you with clinching, or I could beat you with a trick kick, or I could beat you with a back kick.
00:41:31.000Now, for instance, a back kick, anybody can generate knockout power with a back kick.
00:41:35.000However, with a right cross or left hook, not everybody's gonna have that bone-crushing power.
00:41:39.000However, if you teach somebody how to throw a proper back kick, which you know, because you got the best back kick in the game, You could teach a regular Joe in a few years how to generate knockout power.
00:41:48.000So now he has that element on the table.
00:41:51.000So because MMA is so, you know, there's so few rules.
00:41:58.000We have a greater environment for the intellect to shine.
00:42:03.000You said something once to one of your fighters in between rounds and it really stood out.
00:42:07.000You said, I want you to overwhelm his mind with possibilities.
00:46:02.000Well, apparently his knee got really fucked up in the Darren Till fight.
00:46:06.000What do you think about that sidekick to the knee that everyone's doing?
00:46:09.000Not even the oblique kick, just a front leg sidekick to the knee, the same way Yoel Romero used it on Robert Whitaker, fucked up his knee in the first fight, and then Whitaker used it on Romero right away in the second fight to fuck up his knee.
00:46:51.000So you're saying, look, I want to stand in this way where I'm harder to punch, but I don't want you to kick me.
00:46:55.000So if I stand square, I'm more susceptible to back kick, more susceptible to punches, but less susceptible to leg kicks or the oblique kick or the side kick to the knee or whatnot.
00:47:05.000Now, I'm not saying to you, don't punch me because I'm more vulnerable this way.
00:47:10.000So whatever your vulnerability is, You chose that vulnerability by standing sideways.
00:48:43.000And also the cost, they don't have the ability to use that movement, that front leg movement the way that Wonderboy does too.
00:48:51.000Wonderboy is the master of the front leg.
00:48:55.000He's the best at standing, completely sidekick.
00:48:58.000When he fought Johnny Hendricks, a good example, he threw a sidekick to the body, Hendricks stood there, and then he went to a roundhouse kick to the face with the same leg.
00:49:23.000Well, it just shows you the difference between a guy who is, you know, just trying to like kind of plot in with a limited movement and a guy like Wonderboy who's just one of the most difficult guys to sort of pin down.
00:49:51.000He's fighting these guys, and they're setting him up for these spectacular knockouts.
00:49:56.000But it's still that blitz point karate style that Raymond Daniels has, that a lot of these guys have, and Raymond's obviously adapted very well for kickboxing.
00:50:05.000I've cheered with Raymond quite a bit.
00:50:59.000Is that the guy he knocked out with that touch front leg side kick and then jumped up in the air and hit him with a spinning back kick to the face?
00:51:22.000You know, when he fought that really classic fight where he fought that Thai fighter and he got his legs chopped out and everybody was like, oh, shit.
00:51:29.000People really got to understand the Muay Thai.
00:51:32.000But he hit that guy with that same kick, that front leg side kick and then spun in the air and hit him with a turning side kick in the face.
00:51:44.000I love watching that enter into MMA because I used to spar with a lot of those guys and it's fucking hard to deal with.
00:51:51.000Those guys that are really good at that fast sprint at you, blitz.
00:51:56.000And when you do that, and then you also have takedown defense and Muay Thai skills and Jiu Jitsu, it's like, fuck man, that's a lethal skill to have.
00:52:04.000I love doing boxing, Muay Thai, karate, taekwondo.
00:54:25.000Yeah, you get that clamp over the top of the neck and then you drop down with the left shoulder and you tuck the head into the forehead and you hook one of the legs with your leg and you crank that neck up so it's a You're pushing in with your chest and then cranking.
00:54:47.000It's one of those techniques that people, they're not aware of the danger that one position.
00:54:52.000There's a few guys that are really good at it, and whenever you feel that arm going underneath your neck, you're like, fuck, I gotta get out of here.
00:54:59.000Because it's such an easy one to cinch up.
00:57:32.000I'm always fascinated when I see super, super high-level jiu-jitsu guys that enter into MMA. Because I'm like, okay, for sure, these guys who are used to just training MMA, they are not going to know what the fuck hits them when a guy like Hodger Gracie grabs them.
00:58:47.000Patterns are huge in fighting and in life, period.
00:58:50.000Human beings are pattern-detecting machines.
00:58:53.000Whether they know it or not, whether they can verbalize it or not, we are pattern-detecting machines.
00:58:58.000That's why I like sparring a lot, because sparring, I've had a thousand people throw a right hand at me.
00:59:03.000When you throw your right hand, my mind, the subconsciously, is going to compare that right hand you're throwing to a thousand different right hands I saw.
00:59:09.000And it's going to say it matches this one the most.
00:59:21.000You've overwhelmed them with information.
00:59:23.000But after a while, they see a punch and they're relaxed and they see it and it seems slow motion because at first it was too fast for them.
01:04:58.000So Michael Cogan, at the end of the program, he does a four-week or three-week phase of, he calls it the link cycle, where you're doing plyometrics.
01:05:08.000I've never heard it put that way, and I like the thought process behind it.
01:05:13.000I think there's a lot of people that are using a lot of plyometric drills now, and it's way more common when you see training montages of guys hopping over hurdles.
01:05:25.000But I really have to think that George was one of the first guys I ever saw do that stuff.
01:05:28.000I used to tell him, do you want to train like a tow truck, or do you want to train like a Ferrari?
01:07:14.000The scale is going to read 101. That's the minimum amount of power you have to put into that scale for it to come up.
01:07:23.000So when you go down, the scale is going to say 100, 100. As you come up, it's going to say 101. For it to have a positive trajectory, you have to apply 101 pounds upwards.
01:07:33.000Sorry, downwards, and then the reaction will be upwards.
01:07:36.000If I put that weight on my back, if I put 70 pounds, if I take 70% of the weight, and I go up and down really fast on the scale, the scale is going to read 101. Minimum.
01:07:48.000If I explode up really fast, it's going to read 100, 100, 200, 300. Now, I got the benefits of a maximum contraction.
01:07:57.000Let's say 100 pounds was the maximum you can lift.
01:09:23.000He says, let's say you're working with 75 pounds and your maximum is 100. When you go to lift that day on the competition day, when you get 100 on your bones, your body's going to be like, hey, I've never felt that amount of weight.
01:11:28.000Because I'm setting you up to work the next day.
01:11:29.000The next day we're going to do 5. And the next day we're going to do another 5. And then we're going to do 6. When 6 is really easy, we're going to do 7. Why?
01:11:37.000If you count, if you did 10 pull-ups on Monday, you're going to be sore until Thursday.
01:13:59.000A state of flow is you're having the right amount of difficulty, but it's not so difficult that you go into stress, and it's not so easy that you're bored.
01:14:08.000So let's say, as simple as playing Tetris, if I put you on a level that's too high, you're going to play for five minutes and you'll be like, I'm done.
01:14:16.000If I put you on a level too easy, you're going to be like, this is boring.
01:14:20.000If I put you at the right amount of level, see that's the flow channel.
01:14:23.000So if the challenge is too high, you'll meet anxiety.
01:20:36.000But when I read Pavel's stuff, one of the first things that struck me is like, well, yeah, of course, if you just do five reps every day, and then you won't be sore, you could do it more often, and then your body, like, you get farmer strength.
01:20:54.000You know, they're not, like, throwing hay bales to the point where, you know, they literally, they're heaving, they put their hands on their knees, like, come on, five more!
01:23:19.000I'm going to do a few Turkish get-ups and I'm done.
01:23:22.000Because I need to have some general fitness.
01:23:24.000You have general fitness, then you have specific fitness.
01:23:27.000Specific fitness is to get better at my sport.
01:23:29.000General fitness is to keep me healthy, strong, and allow me to reach new levels of athleticism that later, in the long term, can translate to my sport.
01:26:07.000Do you think Hafa Mendez, arguably one of the greatest pound-for-pound jiu-jitsu guys in the world, do you think he's got a great crossfit workout that he's really mastered, he's really good at?
01:26:16.000Do you think he has a great back squat?
01:27:00.000Plus, the stabilizer strength is unbelievable.
01:27:02.000So, and of course, I wanted coordination.
01:27:04.000I felt George was a little bit stiff, mechanical.
01:27:06.000And the tumbling makes you more fluid.
01:27:10.000I thought I would create more efficiency this way.
01:27:14.000So we get him there, and there's difficulties from A to F. We're still at A and B, and he'll always be at A and B. Maybe he'll touch C in his career, but he'll never get to F. You'd have to start really young, and you'd have to do it full-time.
01:27:28.000Imagine somebody trying to get good at jiu-jitsu, doing it part-time.
01:27:35.000CrossFit is too fatigue-seeking for an MMA fighter.
01:27:39.000Now, if CrossFitters followed, if they just followed that 70% rule, they periodically went to their max, periodically, as opposed to every single workout, go totally out.
01:27:50.000I bet you their top, top guys don't go all out every day.
01:27:53.000I bet you if you watch what their top guys do, they taper off the workout.
01:27:57.000They make the workout between 70 and 85% of their true max and they work volume.
01:28:02.000And then closer to competition, they go higher in intensity.
01:28:04.000I guarantee you that's what the best CrossFitters do.
01:28:06.000There's no way that the guy who goes balls out every day is going to add up as much workout and as much training time as the guy who's going 70 to 85% of his max.
01:28:15.000But when they do those classes, like say they do a CrossFit class, and I'm speaking out of ignorance, honestly, because I only watch them on video, I've never done a CrossFit class, but it seems to me they're competing against each other.
01:28:24.000Yeah, they're going all out, trying to set up PR. Every class.
01:31:03.000But the question was like, if you're a young person and you're entering into an MMA gym and the instructor, those to be kind, is a meathead, right?
01:31:13.000Which there's a lot of them out there.
01:33:18.000Someone right now is listening to thousands of people that are going to class and they know that they're going to have to do all these crazy burpees and all this crazy shit before class.
01:35:16.000So I'm always exploding up, but landing on the block softly.
01:35:20.000Because when you jump up, it's the landing that kills your joints.
01:35:24.000If I put up a 50-inch box and I make you jump up, the landing's going to be very soft.
01:35:30.000If I tell you you jump over a hurdle, now you're in mid-air and you're crashing down towards the ground and you land, you gotta absorb that shock.
01:37:37.000Now, when you say, like, mobility, like, what do you do, like, for your hamstrings and things like that if you're trying to stretch them out and also do mobility?
01:38:00.000There's always a type of movement because when I stretch my leg out to stop you from passing the guard, I'm going to be moving my body at the same time.
01:38:37.000Yeah, I just wonder, like, for fighters, I mean, I'm hearing more and more fighters incorporate yoga into the training sessions to try to create more balance and also stability, joint stability in particular, because you're holding these static positions for long periods of time, balance and...
01:45:13.000So how do you know when you're breaking yourself?
01:45:15.000How do you know when your opponent has too much gas and you're not going to, like a guy like Elkins is famous for his durability and his heart.
01:46:19.000Guys who go all in in round one, for me, eventually they will lose because some guy's going to weather that storm, sidestep, and he's going to put the kill on you when you're in recovery mode.
01:46:28.000Or like Francis Ngannou and Stipe Miocic.
01:46:50.000What's amazing is that when guys go all in in the first round, even if they're in great shape, sometimes they don't recover enough to complete the fight.
01:47:19.000The way you go out, if you go out full clip in that first round, you have essentially sprinted yourself into a position where you're just so diminished.
01:47:28.000There's so many fighters that are like that, right?
01:47:31.000Like, Conor is kind of a good example of that.
01:47:34.000Conor is fantastic in the beginning of a fight, but, man, he gets to them third, fourth, and fifth rounds, and he takes, like, the Nate Diaz fight, the second fight, he becomes human.
01:53:33.000How much does it help fighters to cross-train in these different disciplines and how difficult is it to take those skills and then to put them into their overall MMA game?
01:53:44.000I think it's beneficial if you do it to a certain degree because if you go too much, let's say you're always sparring with pro boxers, there's a distance that's not realistic.
01:53:51.000Because in MMA, you're further away from each other.
01:54:42.000I mean, that was a pattern that John had seen, and they even talked about it beforehand, where Daniel said, don't think you're going to hit me with that left high kick.
01:54:50.000Which is kind of crazy when you see how it went down.
01:54:54.000That's a weird thing when people just develop a sort of pattern that they just keep repeating over and over again.
01:55:06.000That's one of the things that when you see people learning technique, one of the more difficult things is to relearn something.
01:55:15.000Once you learn it one way, like with kicking in particular, when they get tired or when they get nervous, they revert back to their old way of kicking and you see it.
01:55:34.000Like, for instance, if I take a guy who's been kicking taekwondo his entire life, and then I try to teach him a Thai kick, it's not that easy.
01:57:49.000And let's do that one thing at a time.
01:57:52.000So when you see a guy and say like he's got a Kyokushin background or something like that and you see he throws kicks but he keeps landing with the instep, you just let him keep doing it like that?
01:58:46.000Especially with his reach and his distance, his footwork that he has, he could do a lot more, I think.
01:58:53.000Do you write all this stuff down, like your thoughts on these things?
01:58:56.000I know you do your YouTube series, but have you ever considered putting out a book on your ideas about MMA? I'm writing a book, but it's more of a philosophy book.
01:59:34.000I mean, I think that what you do is essentially you're taking fighters and preparing them for one of the most difficult challenges in all professional sports.
01:59:43.000I don't think there's a more difficult challenge outside of war.
02:00:19.000The fluidity of his combinations, the way he looked, and the way he sunk that rear naked choke, that was a rare rear naked choke in MMA, where the blade of the hand was on the back of the neck and it was just fully sunk in.
02:00:32.000You know how you see guys get the choke, but you're seeing that old school Ken Shamrock style back of the...
02:02:52.000What's your feeling though on tapping because here's the thing about tapping like this I've had some injuries where like fuck I should have just tapped and I got out of it and I kept rolling with it and then my elbows fucked and I can't do chin-ups for a couple months.
02:03:52.000His ACL, he had a tear in his ACL and then he just got his knee operated on.
02:03:56.000He had a bucket handle tear so he got his meniscus repaired.
02:04:00.000But his ACL was at least partially torn and he's letting it heal, but I'm very skeptical about people that just let partial tears and ACLs heal.
02:04:11.000Because I feel like, yeah, you let it heal, but it healed with like 60% of its original strength.
02:04:16.000Like, you might have let it heal, but how much did you actually do?
02:04:27.000He's showing me that they're taking torn ACLs, completely torn, and instead of replacing it now with a cadaver graft or a patella tendon graft, they actually take that ligament and can reattach it.
02:06:02.000See, the thing about it taking or not taking, what happens with a cadaver is people think that your body takes it like an artificial heart.
02:09:54.000To have that kind of a scar in 2018 with the surgery techniques they have today, it's very rare that you see someone who's just, I mean, you're looking at like a 12-inch scar.
02:11:00.000I was having a conversation with someone there saying cupping is essentially almost total nonsense, but so many people do it and it just puts your mind that you're doing something and healing and doing something, you know, in addition to standard procedures that's helping you out but really ain't doing shit.
02:11:20.000I would say that's probably more psychological.
02:18:58.000If somebody understands the philosophy of science, he understands that every single scientific fact is not equivalent to a mathematical fact.
02:20:36.000So the idea being that you don't necessarily have free will, that everything about your decisions and what you're going to do is based on your life experiences, your genetics, all these variables that are essentially out of your control.
02:20:49.000So this idea of free will is an illusion, which is a really complex concept.
02:23:17.000I would assume it's infinitely precisely going to land the same spot.
02:23:20.000If randomness is a force at work in nature, why didn't it Factor itself into our little experiment here because your little experiments impossible, but that's irrelevant.
02:23:30.000It's a thought experiment, but it's not a thought experiment because you're recreating the whole universe, but it's not logically impossible, right?
02:23:37.000Well in that case though with the variables that you presented, yes Okay.
02:24:06.000So randomness is kind of a, it's an illusion that we project onto the world.
02:24:10.000So Laplace, one of the greatest physicists in history, Simon Laplace, he says, look, look at a billiard ball table.
02:24:17.000If you tell me which way you're going to break the billiard balls, if you tell me what velocity and what angle you're going to hit the cue ball, I could tell you where every single ball is going to be on the pool table.
02:24:57.000But randomness is really a reflection of his ignorance.
02:25:00.000He's not able to compute all this information.
02:25:02.000That's why Laplace says, to God the world is not random.
02:25:05.000To somebody who has information, the world is not random.
02:25:09.000That's why he says, it's very important, that's why we're so determinist, because we believe that what's happening right now is a byproduct of the past.
02:25:17.000The past caused this happening right now.
02:25:22.000If I reset the universe and let it play all over again, identical circumstance, You would drink that exact same amount of coffee you had today.
02:25:29.000You would have married the same woman.
02:26:14.000So when you have a thought, it's all billiard balls hitting one another.
02:26:17.000And if I had an infinitely precise calculator, according to Laplace, I could tell you where you're going to be five years from now, what you're going to be doing.
02:27:32.000I would just see billiard balls hitting one another.
02:27:35.000However, Now that I'm having this first-person experience, there's something we call intuition, this first-person experience itself, you're having this spiritual type of transcendent experience.
02:27:46.000What it's like to have a thought, what it's like to be me.
02:27:49.000So for instance, I see that cup of coffee, I desire the cup of coffee and I drink it.
02:27:56.000Science has no information about my conscious experience, my intuitive experience.
02:29:12.000And so when Leibniz tells you, he says, look, when you reach for that cup of coffee, the universe had already decided millions and billions of years ago that that was going to happen.
02:29:21.000Your intuitive sense just coincides with it perfectly.
02:29:26.000And he says, that's what he calls the twin trains theory, the correlation theory.
02:29:30.000That your desire to grab that cup of coffee...
02:30:56.000Aren't you having a direct experience of free will?
02:30:58.000Well, the only denial of free will would be determinism.
02:31:02.000The only denial would be that your idea of free will is an illusion.
02:31:05.000You are really shaped by the momentum of your past, your genetics.
02:31:10.000Life experiences, all the variables and the way you've absorbed emotions and interactions with people and that these are flavored.
02:31:18.000Your very being to the point when, when presented with an obstacle or an opportunity or a thing, there is a predetermined solution in your mind for whatever the situation is.
02:35:30.000Newton's gravity is different than Einstein's gravity, and that Einstein's gravity is what's been proven, right?
02:35:35.000We know now that light does bend around the mass of the sun, which is one of the reasons why we have a hard time seeing asteroids that are coming from behind the sun, because the mass of the sun actually bends space-time around it to the point where it distorts our view.
02:36:19.000No, I know you're not, but you're saying that science has so much woo, and I'm not seeing the woo part.
02:36:24.000What I'm seeing is the necessary testing and the idea of incorporating new data and changing beliefs and ideas.
02:36:35.000Again, it's a bit of a difficult thing to wrap your mind off in one day, but you have to think about it, and throughout time it comes clearer and clearer.
02:36:42.000When we observe the universe, all we see is pattern and regularities found in nature.
02:37:58.000We see the patterns and regularities, then we predict them.
02:38:02.000Science, this is a good way to put it, science is the faith that the future will behave like the past.
02:38:14.000Science is faith that the future will behave like the past.
02:38:19.000So now you've developed a faith that this coin will flip into a butterfly and now you can predict it.
02:38:26.000Wouldn't you say that science is the use of measurement to understand matter and things around us?
02:38:35.000I wouldn't say that it's Using the past to predict the future.
02:38:40.000I would say that if you know that fire melts lead at a certain temperature, and this is provable, and then you can show this over and over again.
02:40:29.000Or is that when you add in sufficient external variables, then water takes longer to boil because of these variables playing into the properties that we already observed with water?
02:40:41.000That's why whenever we have a scientific fact, there might be new information coming to change our view.
02:41:24.000So for instance, I can't remember who coined the term, but they say, the man who says the tallest mountain I've ever seen is the tallest mountain.
02:41:32.000He's making himself the measure of truth.
02:41:42.000However, if you believe in correspondence theory, that truth is independent of me and you, which I think most of us will agree, then randomness doesn't exist in that context because randomness only depends on you.
02:41:52.000And when things are true outside of your beliefs.
02:45:36.000I would guess that all I know, if I'm going to use Occam's razor, if I'm going to go to the extreme with Occam's razor, I'm just gonna believe what I observe.
02:46:12.000No, I'm saying if you love someone and you know this person and they are no longer with us, all the things around you, like this coffee cup and this knife, they remain the same.
02:47:38.000You've gone past analytical understanding.
02:47:42.000Okay, so, George Berkeley says, can you picture a triangle without any subjective element, without any color?
02:47:49.000Let's call it color to make it really simple, really obvious.
02:47:52.000Can you picture a triangle without any color?
02:47:55.000You would have to have it in contrast to something so that you could see it.
02:47:59.000Say if you had a purple curtain, like what we have behind us, and out of that purple curtain we cut a triangle, even if there was no color, even if it was just clear.
02:48:13.000You would be able to see, you'd be able to differentiate between that shape.
02:53:28.000You're like, hey, I think the future is going to behave like the past.
02:53:31.000There's people who know that fire burns you and they've never been burned by fire because they went to school and they learned from people who explained the properties of fire, what it is, how it works, what temperature it operates on, how it's different depending upon the color of it or what's burning.
02:53:54.000But it's still known via experience, via history.
02:53:58.000Well, it's known via science if you explain exactly what the elements of the fire are and how it works and what it burns at and what temperature specific things need to burn at.
02:54:08.000You don't have to get burned to know that it will burn you.
02:55:00.000Give me one scientific fact you truly trust 100%.
02:55:03.000Okay, if I take a match and I take a yellow piece of paper from this particular notebook, I will light that motherfucker on fire with that match.
02:56:21.000We're going to sweep it under the rug.
02:56:23.000And then one day that level of information, that amount of information that doesn't fit in any way with our theory, our current theory, is going to pull and pull and pull and pull until one guy comes around and says, no, we had it backwards or we had it wrong.
02:58:47.000The truth of the matter is, all we're seeing is one pattern happening over and over again.
02:58:51.000So what this is essentially is an intellectual exercise, but the reality of our ability to come up with the very technology that we're using right now to broadcast this podcast It means that they have figured things out that they're provable and that you can use science to determine what frequency things need to be,
02:59:16.000how much electricity you need, what kind of components can take the image and project it through the power lines and through the internet cables and all the different things that we need to be in place to provide the electricity, to provide the internet connection.
03:00:33.000They don't have any idea what causes that friction causes certain things, that the magnetic pull of the sun on the earth causes certain temperature shifts, and these are recognizable and repeatable, and they understand how to measure them.
03:00:51.000These are all just patterns and regularities found in nature.
03:00:54.000And they're giving them names and explanations.
03:01:28.000You could predict what's going to happen when I touch fire.
03:01:30.000I would have to know exactly how much force you're exerting on your thumb to flip that coin.
03:01:34.000I would have to know what altitude we're at to understand what I would have to know the atmosphere that this coin is going through.
03:01:39.000I would have to know the weight of the coin.
03:01:41.000I would have to know the position of your thumb on the thing.
03:01:44.000It's like what you said about the billiard balls.
03:01:46.000It is true that if you could calculate the exact amount of friction on the cloth and the table, the amount of polish that are on the balls, the amount of force, you'd have to have all the balls in exactly the same spot.
03:02:01.000Today, if you set up a table and you set up, let's just say nine balls, and you told me you were going to know where every ball was to the millimeter, I would say, I will bet you a million dollars you're wrong.
03:04:47.000This logic is the faith that the past, that the future will behave like the past.
03:04:53.000So the patterns and regularities we see in nature We say, look, if these happen often enough, we can recreate these circumstances often enough, we predict it'll happen in the future.
03:05:03.000We have a faith that it'll happen again in the future.
03:05:05.000There is no logical reason why it does.
03:05:08.000There is not one single logical reason why we don't fall off the face of the earth.
03:05:13.000Every explanation we give ourselves is just a narrative.
03:05:17.000It is always subject to reinterpretation.
03:06:20.000It hasn't removed all the other possibilities.
03:06:22.000For something to be true without a doubt, for it to be knowledge, not belief, there has to be zero doubt, meaning no other possibility whatsoever.
03:11:58.000Well, that's one of the reasons why simulation theory is terrible.
03:12:01.000People really do, like serious people, consider the potential that not only is it possible that we are in a simulation, but that there are many, many simulations inside of simulations.
03:13:15.000If you take off all your paradigms, this takes a very brave human being to do.
03:13:20.000To remove everything that anybody's ever told you and have the experience of the one thing.
03:13:26.000What you would know, what you would come to, mystics, that's why I believe that there's a place where you can get where religion is true and science is faith.
03:13:35.000And I know it sounds crazy, but there is a point, and I believe in science, don't get me wrong, I can't praise science enough, but there is a transcendent experience a human has, and that transcendent experience is consciousness itself, not the content of consciousness.
03:16:41.000I mean, it's definitely fascinating and entertaining.
03:16:43.000And I like fictional stories, too, though.
03:16:46.000I like observing creativity because I'm fascinated by the human experience.
03:16:51.000And I'm fascinated by what people are able to...
03:16:55.000Create out of their own mind something like we were talking yesterday about Stephen King about how amazing it is that this guy just keeps Continuing to create these bizarre stories and that someone can do that your consciousness and by putting so much emphasis on creativity and your ability to just Write down things that never really happened and paint a picture inside someone's mind.
03:17:20.000You know, let me ask you this if he is if determinism is true Who wrote those stories?
03:17:26.000When you write a story on a computer, did the computer write the story?