The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #36 with Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen

00:00:03.000 Four, three, two, one.

00:00:06.000 So we get here, and young Jamie is obsessed with whether or not Leonardo da Vinci is gay.

00:00:11.000 And so he says it to Callan, and then Callan says...

00:00:15.000 I said the Mona Lisa.

00:00:17.000 The Mona Lisa has a mischievous smile on her face.

00:00:21.000 And apparently, according to art historians, I believe that is a self-portrait.

00:00:26.000 And that was da Vinci himself in drag.

00:00:30.000 Is this a conspiracy theory, sir?

00:00:31.000 And that's why he is looking back at you with sort of a wry smirk.

00:00:36.000 I don't see that rye smirk.

00:00:38.000 Young Jamie, please pull up a photograph of the masterpiece.

00:00:41.000 No, I think this is...

00:00:42.000 This is real?

00:00:43.000 I think this is...

00:00:44.000 At least Dan Brown, his book, The Da Vinci Code, actually talks about it.

00:00:50.000 But I think this is standard.

00:00:52.000 You're talking about the Tom Hanks movies?

00:00:53.000 Yes.

00:00:53.000 Good book.

00:00:54.000 Better book.

00:00:55.000 The book is a different thing than the movies.

00:00:57.000 Dan Brown, I think, is a professor of theology at Harvard, or something like that.

00:01:03.000 Okay, I don't see a sly smile.

00:01:06.000 I see a chick who lives in a place where the food sucks and her teeth are probably all fucked up.

00:01:11.000 She's a bit zofty.

00:01:12.000 She's zofty.

00:01:13.000 No, that's that dick smile, bro.

00:01:15.000 She has a smirk for sure.

00:01:16.000 Here's an interesting thing.

00:01:17.000 Do you know that people did have bad teeth back then?

00:01:19.000 Of course.

00:01:20.000 But the majority of the teeth problems that we have in this country have to do with sugar.

00:01:26.000 I thought it was the water, the fluoride in the water.

00:01:29.000 No, fluoride in the water.

00:01:30.000 That fluoride in the water thing is so sketchy.

00:01:33.000 Have you ever looked into whether or not fluoride should be in the water?

00:01:36.000 Well, I know that in the 50s, Colorado had a high concentration of fluoride in its water, and apparently...

00:01:45.000 Apparently, Brad smokes weed and turns into the fucking professor.

00:01:48.000 I know, I know.

00:01:49.000 And another thing, everyone.

00:01:51.000 Apparently.

00:01:51.000 He's dead serious.

00:01:53.000 You're dead serious.

00:01:54.000 Apparently, if I could get my poker out, I'm going to poke at the board.

00:01:58.000 But I think it came out of Colorado where there was high concentrations of fluoride in the water.

00:02:04.000 And then what happened was they go, well, there's a cluster of people who are not getting cavities.

00:02:09.000 And so apparently fluoride is effective at keeping cavities at bay.

00:02:14.000 And I grew up overseas.

00:02:15.000 My teeth are fucking riddled with holes.

00:02:19.000 Did you eat sugar?

00:02:21.000 Not so much overseas, but I definitely didn't brush my teeth a lot and I didn't have fluoride.

00:02:29.000 Well, let's Google whether or not there's evidence that fluoride is good for tooth decay.

00:02:34.000 You think it's all marketing hype from press?

00:02:36.000 I don't know, man.

00:02:37.000 I've read too many hippie articles.

00:02:38.000 The problem is the hippie articles confuse you because it'll say naturalnewsletter.com.

00:02:44.000 They brush your teeth with coal and shit.

00:02:46.000 You don't know, man, because there's people that get all homeopathic on you and you're like, okay, is this guy right?

00:02:52.000 I'm going to go through 5,000 words here.

00:02:55.000 Is he right or is this horse shit?

00:02:57.000 Okay, now I've got to look up the actual studies.

00:03:00.000 Okay, now I've got to read this three times because I'm stupid and I can't figure out how to decipher it.

00:03:04.000 No evidence that fluoridated water causes cavities.

00:03:08.000 Reduces cavities, rather.

00:03:09.000 That's from Dr. Mercola.

00:03:11.000 Now, that's a one.

00:03:12.000 Now, I've posted articles from Mercola.com, and people go, oh, that guy's amazing.

00:03:16.000 And then other people go, oh, that guy's a fraud.

00:03:18.000 It's tough to figure out, isn't it?

00:03:20.000 I've read some stuff on Dr. Mercola.

00:03:21.000 What have you read?

00:03:22.000 Just like the same kind of stuff.

00:03:24.000 And he seems to be pretty...

00:03:26.000 Like he's a doctor, but that doesn't mean he's an expert on the gay or on looking at the hard evidence behind Florida.

00:03:33.000 Go to the American Dental Association, Florida and Water.

00:03:36.000 They must have some documentation.

00:03:38.000 Seven years of scientific research.

00:03:39.000 God, you guys are lucky that he's not here.

00:03:41.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:41.000 Thank God right now.

00:03:43.000 He's on an evolution kick now.

00:03:46.000 More than 70 years of scientific research has consistently shown that an optimal level of fluoride in community water is safe and effective in preventing tooth decay.

00:03:55.000 Safe is a scary word.

00:03:57.000 Why would you be worried about that?

00:03:59.000 By at least 25% of both children and adults, simply by drinking water, Americans can benefit from fluorides, cavity protection, without their homework or school.

00:04:06.000 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention named Community Water Fluoridation, one of ten great public health achievements of the 20th century.

00:04:13.000 Okay.

00:04:14.000 Now, go to the one that says there's no evidence.

00:04:16.000 Because I got to...

00:04:17.000 Who the fuck is right here?

00:04:19.000 Goddammit.

00:04:19.000 I would suggest...

00:04:21.000 That it's been around a long time.

00:04:24.000 It ain't hurting.

00:04:25.000 It has, but there's a lot of stuff.

00:04:27.000 Remember what the food pyramid used to look like?

00:04:29.000 It was all spaghetti at the bottom.

00:04:33.000 A comprehensive review by the Cochrane Collaboration found water fluoridation may not prevent cavities.

00:04:42.000 In a review of every fluoridation study they could find, only three since...

00:04:47.000 Who's the Cochrane?

00:04:47.000 I don't know.

00:04:47.000 Who's the Cochrane Collaboration?

00:04:48.000 I don't know, but let me finish talking.

00:04:49.000 I know you guys like to talk over each other, but let's try not to do that.

00:04:51.000 That's what we do, bro.

00:04:55.000 study they could find.

00:04:56.000 Only three studies since 1975 looked at the effectiveness of water fluoridation at reducing tooth decay among the general population and had high enough quality to be included.

00:05:06.000 The studies found fluoridation does not reduce cavities to a statistically significant degree in permanent teeth.

00:05:12.000 In the two studies since 1975 that examined the effectiveness of fluoridation in reducing cavities in baby teeth, no significant reduction was noted there either.

00:05:22.000 You know what I'm thinking right now?

00:05:23.000 You know what's going on in my head?

00:05:25.000 What's going on in my head right now is I go, I'm thinking, this is why Google is not a place to go for information a lot of times.

00:05:30.000 Well, that's not true.

00:05:31.000 You just have to be discerning.

00:05:33.000 This is why peer-reviewed papers are so important.

00:05:35.000 This is why really valuable journalists, scientific journalists especially, are important.

00:05:41.000 That's right.

00:05:41.000 That's exactly correct.

00:05:42.000 Fucking morons like us, we don't know who's right.

00:05:44.000 We just said something and people are going, well, know what?

00:05:47.000 So I feel like we have to get to the bottom of this.

00:05:49.000 We have to get the bottom of this.

00:05:51.000 Mythbusters or some shit?

00:05:52.000 Yeah, but my dentist, we, the three of us.

00:05:56.000 You guys never got to the bottom?

00:05:57.000 We haven't gotten to the bottom of anything.

00:05:59.000 Ever.

00:05:59.000 You can get to the bottom.

00:06:00.000 You can kind of look at general trends.

00:06:02.000 I said to my idol, I had all this metal in my teeth, right?

00:06:06.000 And my dentist, I was like, look, man, I've got to get it out.

00:06:08.000 Because, you know, It leaks mercury.

00:06:10.000 And he said, I know, I was on that study panel.

00:06:13.000 And if you look at the massive number of people that have metal in their mouth, you would be able to draw some pretty broad-based conclusions because you have such a huge human pool.

00:06:27.000 And they just haven't.

00:06:29.000 They do a lot of comprehensive studies.

00:06:31.000 Is this the same dentist who said your teeth are straight?

00:06:34.000 No.

00:06:34.000 No, this is a different one, and I'm wearing my Invisalign, so I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't go after my teeth, because they're going to be amazing.

00:06:40.000 Do you wear it at night?

00:06:41.000 I'm wearing them right now, and you can't tell.

00:06:42.000 Remember when Tom Cruise was like 50 and he got braces?

00:06:45.000 Sure do.

00:06:45.000 Everybody was like, yo.

00:06:46.000 Yo, what are you doing?

00:06:47.000 Then he came in with veneers.

00:06:48.000 He's like, you know what, my bad.

00:06:49.000 He also changed his voice.

00:06:50.000 Do you remember?

00:06:51.000 Wait a minute, did he do that?

00:06:51.000 He went with veneers?

00:06:52.000 Oh, dude, you've never seen the before, after?

00:06:54.000 Yeah, they're brilliant.

00:06:55.000 His teeth are so good.

00:06:56.000 Veneers are amazing.

00:06:57.000 That's what I'm saying, bro.

00:06:59.000 It's amazing.

00:06:59.000 Yes.

00:06:59.000 I had a friend.

00:07:00.000 She did it.

00:07:01.000 One of the girls that I did news radio with.

00:07:03.000 I don't want to say her name.

00:07:03.000 Dude, I'll get us a three-for-one deal up in a four-for-one.

00:07:06.000 Jamie, you want some pearly whites?

00:07:07.000 If you look at the good ones, you're like, God damn, your teeth are fucking fantastic.

00:07:11.000 I know.

00:07:11.000 Look at that.

00:07:12.000 Bam!

00:07:12.000 Tom Cruise.

00:07:13.000 What?

00:07:14.000 What, bitch?

00:07:15.000 Busted on the left.

00:07:15.000 See, I don't know if that is veneers or braces.

00:07:18.000 Oh, come on, bro.

00:07:18.000 Because he did wear braces.

00:07:20.000 Look at those.

00:07:21.000 I think those are his real teeth.

00:07:22.000 Dude, look at the left.

00:07:23.000 I think they're his real teeth.

00:07:25.000 And I think the one on the left is just, it could be photoshopped.

00:07:28.000 I don't remember them being that bad.

00:07:30.000 Yeah, I think it's photoshopped.

00:07:31.000 Yeah.

00:07:32.000 Okay.

00:07:32.000 See, that's when he's wearing braces.

00:07:34.000 His teeth are busted.

00:07:34.000 Those do look like his real teeth.

00:07:36.000 They do look real.

00:07:37.000 They wear braces.

00:07:37.000 I think those are his real teeth.

00:07:38.000 Go to him before braces.

00:07:41.000 What a ballsy move.

00:07:42.000 Go to him smiling in the color of money.

00:07:45.000 Because he was really young in that movie.

00:07:47.000 Yeah, top gun.

00:07:48.000 Tom Cruise, color of money.

00:07:51.000 He's such a beast, isn't he?

00:07:53.000 Tom Cruise is a monster.

00:07:54.000 I just watched The Color of Money on a flight.

00:07:57.000 It was fucking incredible.

00:07:58.000 Right there, the far left.

00:07:59.000 Yeah, those are his teeth, bro.

00:08:01.000 He just got braces.

00:08:03.000 Those front ones have been knocked out and those are fake.

00:08:05.000 No, no, this is a long time ago, man.

00:08:08.000 This is The Color of Money.

00:08:09.000 This is like 1986. Yeah, and I'm saying the rest of his teeth are the color yellow, and the middle ones are white.

00:08:15.000 But that's hard to tell.

00:08:16.000 You've seen dark shadows all over the place.

00:08:18.000 You can't really gauge.

00:08:18.000 Not of yellow.

00:08:19.000 Right there?

00:08:20.000 Look at that.

00:08:20.000 It's so hard to gauge.

00:08:22.000 I've never seen his teeth look like that.

00:08:23.000 I've seen all his movies.

00:08:24.000 Gentlemen, you can't even see his right eye.

00:08:27.000 You're judging whether or not that's his teeth color.

00:08:29.000 You literally can't see his right eye because he's in so much shadow.

00:08:32.000 Those teeth don't look super suspect to you?

00:08:35.000 Right there.

00:08:35.000 No, they look like teeth right there.

00:08:37.000 You're crazy.

00:08:38.000 That's his teeth.

00:08:38.000 Those are normal.

00:08:40.000 His teeth were...

00:08:41.000 You're judging by today's standards.

00:08:43.000 That's the problem.

00:08:43.000 Today they can make those teeth perfect like that.

00:08:46.000 Dude, if you had bad teeth back then, if you had fake teeth, they looked fake as fuck.

00:08:49.000 That's true.

00:08:50.000 His teeth, I will say this, his teeth were off-center.

00:08:53.000 Like, you know, the middle teeth, they were kind of pushed over to the right.

00:08:56.000 And now they're way better.

00:08:57.000 That's why he's smiling crooked.

00:08:59.000 56, still doing action movies, still does his own stunts, jumps from building to building, breaks his ankle in filming.

00:09:06.000 Have you seen that shit?

00:09:07.000 No.

00:09:07.000 Apparently this Mission Impossible movie is a motherfucker.

00:09:10.000 And he's killing it.

00:09:11.000 They said it's killing it.

00:09:12.000 It's awesome.

00:09:13.000 Best Mission Impossible yet, me too.

00:09:15.000 Everyone tells me it's great.

00:09:16.000 I keep hearing it's fantastic.

00:09:17.000 He's still awesome, I'm sorry.

00:09:18.000 He's awesome.

00:09:19.000 Awesome!

00:09:20.000 He's crazy as fuck, but he is awesome.

00:09:23.000 He's also nice as shit.

00:09:25.000 You know what else, dude?

00:09:26.000 Watch this.

00:09:27.000 He jumps off this and breaks his fucking ankle.

00:09:30.000 Did he really do that?

00:09:31.000 Yes, he did.

00:09:31.000 He does all his own stunts.

00:09:32.000 But watch when he lands.

00:09:34.000 Watch how jacked his ankle gets.

00:09:35.000 Boom!

00:09:36.000 All fucked up.

00:09:37.000 You ain't ready for that, B. You want to be a worldwide action hero?

00:09:41.000 I can't do that.

00:09:42.000 Watch how it hits.

00:09:44.000 I didn't quite make it snap-a-roony.

00:09:47.000 Oh, fuck you!

00:09:49.000 That hurts!

00:09:49.000 And then, boujah!

00:09:50.000 Dick to the metal.

00:09:51.000 He still finishes.

00:09:53.000 He still finishes.

00:09:54.000 He still jumped over the top.

00:09:55.000 He's still in scene.

00:09:56.000 Homeboy slammed that concrete into his dick bone.

00:10:00.000 And look how he hobbled off.

00:10:02.000 He hobbled off when he got up.

00:10:04.000 That's why you have to have a stuntman, because you're going to get hurt.

00:10:06.000 Bullshit!

00:10:07.000 No, bro.

00:10:07.000 You guys are hardcore, man!

00:10:09.000 But he likes everything.

00:10:10.000 He does all the car driving stunts.

00:10:12.000 He hangs out the helicopters.

00:10:13.000 He does all that shit.

00:10:14.000 I didn't know that.

00:10:15.000 I didn't know.

00:10:15.000 You gotta look up your time for your shit.

00:10:18.000 I don't have to look up shit.

00:10:18.000 It's a free country.

00:10:19.000 He might have a dark wish for the end of one of those movies.

00:10:24.000 He might have a dark wish.

00:10:26.000 I feel like people discredit him because of the Scientology stuff.

00:10:30.000 They absolutely 100% do.

00:10:33.000 But listen, the Scientology thing is just how he gets by.

00:10:36.000 There's a lot of people that have their own ideologies, whether they believe it or not.

00:10:39.000 It might be radical left ideology.

00:10:42.000 There's a lot of conservative former actors that are super conservative that are on Twitter.

00:10:47.000 They're in a cult.

00:10:49.000 They're in a cult.

00:10:51.000 Everyone's wrapped up in this own little thing.

00:10:53.000 His thing is just crazy as fuck by a guy who was a science fiction author who wore a fucking captain's coat on with a bunch of medals he gave himself.

00:11:00.000 But they have some legit buildings.

00:11:01.000 You driven by them in Hollywood?

00:11:02.000 They have legit actors!

00:11:03.000 They have legit actors, man.

00:11:04.000 John Travolta.

00:11:05.000 Tom Cruise is fucking legit.

00:11:07.000 John Travolta's done some silly nonsense, but he's also done pulp fucking fiction.

00:11:14.000 He did Carrie when he was like really young.

00:11:16.000 Good actor.

00:11:17.000 Face Off?

00:11:19.000 Dude, he's a very good actor.

00:11:21.000 That was a terrible movie.

00:11:22.000 Face Off?

00:11:25.000 That's a great movie!

00:11:26.000 The one when they cut the face off and put it on the other person?

00:11:28.000 That could happen, bro.

00:11:30.000 That's Nick Cage.

00:11:30.000 The bone structure magically changes, and Nick Cage looks like John Travolta.

00:11:33.000 Hold on, bro.

00:11:34.000 You don't like face off?

00:11:35.000 Somebody anti-technology.

00:11:36.000 Are you a terrorist?

00:11:37.000 You don't like fucking face off?

00:11:39.000 There's no way, bro.

00:11:40.000 Okay, what would it happen if Brian took his face off and put it on you?

00:11:44.000 I would think you were a monster.

00:11:46.000 Damn, Brian got jacked.

00:11:47.000 There's a monster here.

00:11:49.000 First of all, your head's way bigger, so your skin would be like some 60-year-old lady from Bel-Air.

00:11:54.000 Ah!

00:11:56.000 Those 60-year-old ladies where their mouth looks like it's so big it can eat your head?

00:12:00.000 Because they've been pulling their skin back to their mouth as like a joker?

00:12:04.000 They lose fat in their face as you get older.

00:12:06.000 Remember what you used to make fun of me for taking acting class?

00:12:09.000 And I stayed in acting class for eight years longer than I needed to because I love a train wreck.

00:12:15.000 And these two guys did a scene.

00:12:17.000 Jeffrey Tambor was teaching.

00:12:19.000 And these two guys did a scene.

00:12:21.000 From Face Off.

00:12:23.000 And the curtain comes up and one guy's hanging from a chain and the other guy's torturing him.

00:12:29.000 And then he goes, you killed them?

00:12:32.000 And he goes, yeah.

00:12:33.000 And he's hitting him and it's crazy.

00:12:35.000 And at the end of the scene, he's like, scene!

00:12:38.000 And everybody's like...

00:12:38.000 And then Jeffrey Tamber just takes a sip of his coffee and he goes, what was that scene?

00:12:45.000 And the guy goes, Face Off.

00:12:47.000 Face Off.

00:12:49.000 What is that?

00:12:50.000 He goes, it's a movie, it's an action movie with John Travolta and Nick Cage and Jeffrey Zimmer goes, that scene is banned forever.

00:13:01.000 And that was it.

00:13:03.000 It's a good movie, man.

00:13:04.000 Yeah, whatever.

00:13:06.000 God, his actual fucking I heard this Gotti movie's terrible.

00:13:11.000 Dude, I heard it's like the worst movie of all time.

00:13:14.000 I've heard it so bad.

00:13:15.000 Really?

00:13:15.000 I've heard it so bad.

00:13:16.000 I think it's out of the theaters already.

00:13:18.000 It has like a zero on Rotten Tomatoes.

00:13:20.000 Well, I don't know.

00:13:20.000 I saw that trailer and I got into it.

00:13:23.000 Okay, let's just Google how bad is the Gotti movie.

00:13:29.000 What does it say?

00:13:30.000 A zero!

00:13:31.000 That's amazing.

00:13:33.000 Two out of ten.

00:13:34.000 That is insane.

00:13:35.000 Okay.

00:13:36.000 That's crazy.

00:13:37.000 That has to be correct.

00:13:38.000 He's great.

00:13:38.000 He looks good.

00:13:39.000 He looks like a bomb.

00:13:40.000 He looks good.

00:13:41.000 He looks like a good god.

00:13:42.000 He can act his fucking ass off.

00:13:45.000 Did you see him in the O.J. Simpson on FX? Yeah.

00:13:47.000 When he played Shapiro?

00:13:48.000 Oh, that's right.

00:13:49.000 Yeah.

00:13:49.000 That's right.

00:13:50.000 He's a great actor, man.

00:13:51.000 He's great at everything, man.

00:13:52.000 He just does a lot of bad movies.

00:13:54.000 He's shorty.

00:13:56.000 Tom Cruise has not done a lot of bad movies.

00:13:59.000 No.

00:13:59.000 Tom Cruise has done, from End of Days even, like all those movies he didn't even do.

00:14:03.000 I loved him.

00:14:04.000 End of Days is fucking fantastic.

00:14:06.000 Might be his best movie.

00:14:07.000 You know what else is good?

00:14:08.000 Is that the one, Tomorrow Again?

00:14:11.000 He dies, he keeps dying.

00:14:12.000 Is that End of Days?

00:14:14.000 No.

00:14:14.000 No, I'm thinking of a different one.

00:14:15.000 He did like two science fiction movies.

00:14:17.000 I'm thinking of Die Repeat.

00:14:18.000 Edge of Tomorrow?

00:14:19.000 Die Repeat.

00:14:20.000 Yes.

00:14:21.000 That was what it was called?

00:14:22.000 It was called Edge of Tomorrow originally.

00:14:24.000 We've talked about this before, they changed the name.

00:14:26.000 Oh, that's right.

00:14:27.000 Because the marketing, because it came out, because the original marketing was Edge of Tomorrow, whatever the fuck.

00:14:31.000 But it came out as that.

00:14:32.000 And then people were like, no one showed up to it, but the people that went were like, that's like the greatest movie ever.

00:14:36.000 So then it started to gain traction.

00:14:39.000 They're like, hold up, we need to relabel this thing.

00:14:41.000 Then they relabeled it, and that movie's fucking, that might be his best movie.

00:14:44.000 It's a great fucking movie.

00:14:46.000 I mean, a great fucking science fiction movie.

00:14:49.000 I agree.

00:14:49.000 It is one of the most underrated science fiction movies ever.

00:14:53.000 And if you're a sci-fi fan and you avoided it just because, oh, it's a Tom Cruise movie, you fucked up.

00:14:58.000 Because it is amazing.

00:15:00.000 It's amazing.

00:15:00.000 I did a reading with him one time, and in the reading, it was literally me, him, Eric Stoltz, Amy Smart.

00:15:06.000 From what movie?

00:15:07.000 It was a movie that never got made called Men.

00:15:10.000 And I was reading all the parts opposite him and they were trying to get Owen Wilson.

00:15:15.000 So I was right next to him and I spent, I don't know, maybe three hours with him.

00:15:19.000 And it was a small...

00:15:20.000 Nobody was out.

00:15:20.000 Nobody else was in the room.

00:15:21.000 Like just Todd Phillips and a couple of actors.

00:15:23.000 He, in the reading, like in the reading as you're just doing it, Acting full out.

00:15:30.000 And amazing.

00:15:31.000 And just loves it.

00:15:33.000 And almost like his eyes were watery at one point where everything's like all the chips are down the scene.

00:15:37.000 And I was just like, this fucking dude is amazing.

00:15:39.000 And I kept staring at him.

00:15:41.000 And I believed everything he was doing.

00:15:42.000 And just sitting at a table.

00:15:44.000 And we get there.

00:15:45.000 He's a little late.

00:15:45.000 Just a little late.

00:15:47.000 Profusely apologizes.

00:15:48.000 He goes, guys, I haven't eaten.

00:15:49.000 Just give me a second.

00:15:50.000 I'm done.

00:15:51.000 And he's just talking.

00:15:52.000 He's so nice.

00:15:52.000 And he had...

00:15:54.000 Five pieces of sashimi with a tiny little pepper on each one and some penta water.

00:15:59.000 And he was like, thank you so much.

00:16:00.000 It was great.

00:16:01.000 Boom, boom, boom.

00:16:02.000 And then we went out, read the thing.

00:16:03.000 And then he wanted to hear what all of us thought of the script, what our suggestions were.

00:16:08.000 And when he listens to you, His eyes sparkle.

00:16:12.000 His mouth moves in an O. You can be like, I think I was a little confused in the beginning.

00:16:18.000 He's like, hold on.

00:16:21.000 He's zeroed in on you.

00:16:22.000 And I was like, this guy loves me, man.

00:16:24.000 We're going to be best friends.

00:16:26.000 And that never happened.

00:16:28.000 We dated for a while.

00:16:29.000 He can put you in the new Mission Impossible or some shit.

00:16:32.000 I spent time with him.

00:16:33.000 Dude, you're not Scientology.

00:16:35.000 Well, he could get you to join.

00:16:37.000 I think he could get you to join.

00:16:38.000 I agree with that 100%.

00:16:40.000 But I wouldn't show up and I'd be like, yeah, of course I will.

00:16:42.000 Yeah, they would get mad that you weren't showing up.

00:16:44.000 But if you did show up and you charmed people there and just rubbed backs and tell everybody that you loved them.

00:16:49.000 I was in the class for 10 years that is cited in the book by Going Clear.

00:16:55.000 That whole class, I was in that class.

00:16:58.000 Dude, I remember.

00:16:58.000 You had me come to one of those little events.

00:17:00.000 You went to?

00:17:01.000 Sure did.

00:17:01.000 I went to an event, a thing that was going on.

00:17:04.000 Watched a guy sing.

00:17:05.000 We watched a guy sing while we were so high.

00:17:08.000 We were in like a neighboring dimension watching reality through a dirty mirror.

00:17:12.000 In the Scientology building?

00:17:14.000 I want to get in there so bad.

00:17:15.000 It was near there.

00:17:16.000 It was in a theater.

00:17:17.000 We were barbecued.

00:17:18.000 I mean, barbecued.

00:17:20.000 Freaking out.

00:17:22.000 Freaking out.

00:17:23.000 Watching this.

00:17:24.000 They were singing songs from musicals.

00:17:26.000 And it was not good.

00:17:28.000 And Joe was just like, wow.

00:17:29.000 This was amazing.

00:17:30.000 Dude, they have so much money.

00:17:32.000 I drove by the one in, it's kind of like the Silver Lake area, Hollywood.

00:17:36.000 Fuck, man.

00:17:37.000 They got a lot of money.

00:17:38.000 Did you read Going Clear?

00:17:40.000 There's a lot of what's good about crazy.

00:17:43.000 What's good about crazy and about being, like, if you have a fucking purpose in life, man, it doesn't have to be rational.

00:17:51.000 But if you have a purpose, if you have a clear directive in terms of L. Ron Hubbard says this, so I'm just going to listen, and I'm going to push forward, and I'm going to stay positive, and I'm going to avoid the negative people, and I'm going to use all these tools in order to maximize my performance.

00:18:06.000 All good.

00:18:06.000 Shit works.

00:18:07.000 Yeah, all good.

00:18:08.000 It could be- Do your thing.

00:18:09.000 Some made-up nonsense.

00:18:10.000 And by the way, if you read anything about- By the way, when Callan's around, I started saying, by the way.

00:18:14.000 By the way.

00:18:15.000 If you read anything about L. Ron Hubbard, they essentially think that he was self-healing.

00:18:19.000 That he was creating that.

00:18:21.000 Yeah, he was past shit crazy.

00:18:22.000 Yeah, he was having real- He took an inventory of how his brain works.

00:18:24.000 Like, that's what he did.

00:18:25.000 He took a detailed inventory over many years of how the minutia of his brain worked.

00:18:31.000 And he really cataloged it.

00:18:34.000 So that's why some of it, he borrowed a lot of old wisdoms and stuff, but some of it works.

00:18:38.000 I love you made everyone wear like navy fucking outfits.

00:18:41.000 Like the commanders were like in navy fucking outfits.

00:18:44.000 But if you think about it, Christianity focused the European and American mind for a long time.

00:18:49.000 Everybody was on the same page, and it was very easy to kind of move things forward as a uniform body.

00:18:56.000 Nobody kind of disputed what the truth was until that's a recent invention.

00:19:00.000 With Hubbard, I feel like with Scientology, I'm pretty sure their sign-ups are going down because of research and with everyone coming out now.

00:19:08.000 Yeah, look at Sea Org.

00:19:09.000 Look at that shit.

00:19:10.000 Look at that shit.

00:19:11.000 Oh, my God.

00:19:12.000 Apparently that little dude there will whoop your ass, too.

00:19:14.000 The guy in the front?

00:19:15.000 Yeah, it is.

00:19:15.000 He'll whoop your ass, you get out of line now.

00:19:17.000 Yeah, he's beat the shit out of everyone.

00:19:18.000 Oh, he beats the shit out of people, right?

00:19:19.000 Yeah, like if you're like, oh, sorry, sir, your ham sandwich is fucked up today, you beat your ass in front of everyone.

00:19:23.000 He'll legitimately kick people's asses.

00:19:24.000 Yeah.

00:19:25.000 Look at that.

00:19:26.000 Who's that said that?

00:19:27.000 David Miscavige?

00:19:28.000 His dad?

00:19:28.000 Is that his dad?

00:19:29.000 His dad and also on the documentary talk about how abusive he is.

00:19:32.000 Yeah, the book is crazy.

00:19:33.000 He goes into detail about David Miscavige.

00:19:35.000 Yeah, Tom Cruise kicking the nuts.

00:19:36.000 I'm sorry, what was his dad's name?

00:19:37.000 Ron.

00:19:38.000 Ron Miscavige.

00:19:38.000 Sorry, Ron.

00:19:39.000 Sorry, Ron.

00:19:40.000 He did the podcast.

00:19:41.000 He's an interesting guy.

00:19:42.000 Oh, that's right.

00:19:42.000 Made me sad.

00:19:43.000 Yeah.

00:19:43.000 He doesn't talk to his son.

00:19:46.000 That's the thing that made me the most sad, that the dad and the son don't talk to each other over some nonsense.

00:19:52.000 The best thing I ever heard was a guy I knew who was a teacher and he was a Scientologist and had been for 23 years.

00:19:58.000 And somebody said, are you a Scientologist?

00:20:00.000 And he kind of got caught up and he said...

00:20:02.000 Well, let's examine that for a sec.

00:20:04.000 I've taken classes there for 20 years, and I've found enormous benefit from some of them, and some of them I've paid money for.

00:20:13.000 Some of them I've found zero benefit from.

00:20:16.000 And I put into practice some of the courses and stuff.

00:20:21.000 So if that makes me a Scientologist, I guess I am.

00:20:23.000 It was kind of a good answer.

00:20:24.000 That's a very good answer.

00:20:26.000 You can get that out of a lot of things.

00:20:29.000 There's a lot of things that are like that that have some nonsense in them.

00:20:32.000 But I think people operate really well when they have a scaffolding, like a structure that they have to follow.

00:20:38.000 Like a blueprint.

00:20:38.000 Yeah, and then they have a purpose.

00:20:40.000 They think there's a positive action to their directive and that there's going to be some grand plan that they fit into perfectly because of their work.

00:20:50.000 Nothing wrong with that either.

00:20:51.000 Listen, man.

00:20:52.000 If that works for you, I don't give a shit.

00:20:54.000 Until the contract...

00:20:55.000 But it's just if you believe, yeah, right?

00:20:58.000 Look at Leah Remini.

00:21:00.000 I mean, Leah Remini, she is the worst fucking person to do this to.

00:21:05.000 Keep her in!

00:21:07.000 Are you crazy?

00:21:08.000 Do whatever you gotta do, man.

00:21:09.000 Leah doesn't give a fuck.

00:21:10.000 She doesn't give a fuck, and she likes being that girl.

00:21:14.000 That's her, she likes that role.

00:21:17.000 It's almost like she was designed, because it didn't make sense that she was in Scientology to begin with when I met her.

00:21:23.000 Because when I met her, she's like this take-no-bullshit East Coast chick who's also beautiful.

00:21:28.000 So I was like, huh, she's a Scientologist?

00:21:30.000 I always got along with her.

00:21:32.000 She was always very friendly.

00:21:33.000 But there was always this, like, be careful.

00:21:35.000 Don't say anything stupid, Jones.

00:21:36.000 Like, all right, Jesus.

00:21:37.000 Yeah, I felt the same way.

00:21:39.000 I had such a crush on her in Saved by the Bell.

00:21:41.000 She had so much power.

00:21:42.000 So here's the thing.

00:21:42.000 If she's got all this—was she in that?

00:21:44.000 She was in Saved by the Bell?

00:21:45.000 Yeah.

00:21:45.000 Summer edition.

00:21:46.000 Like, she's got all this, like, brass and the way...

00:21:49.000 How does she get sucked into that?

00:21:50.000 Well, she was a little kid.

00:21:52.000 That's how.

00:21:52.000 She's super young, right?

00:21:53.000 She grew up in it.

00:21:54.000 She got sold a bill of goods, and so she was like, wait a minute.

00:21:57.000 Boy, they should have kept her.

00:21:58.000 But how did Tom Cruise...

00:21:59.000 Yeah, they fucked up.

00:22:01.000 I never lived with Tom Cruise.

00:22:03.000 How'd they get Tom, though?

00:22:05.000 Like, Tom wasn't that young.

00:22:06.000 He was very young.

00:22:07.000 That's how they get him?

00:22:08.000 And John Travolta?

00:22:08.000 Well, I think people want something that makes it.

00:22:11.000 Look, I bought the book.

00:22:12.000 I bought Dianetics.

00:22:13.000 Yeah, me too.

00:22:13.000 I bought it through a late night ad.

00:22:15.000 You bought it?

00:22:16.000 1994, son.

00:22:17.000 Pre-internet.

00:22:18.000 I was at home, chilling in my apartment in North Hollywood, and I was like, damn, this sounds like they're making a lot of sense here.

00:22:24.000 Wow.

00:22:25.000 And it does make sense.

00:22:26.000 The volcano, the lava.

00:22:27.000 What the fuck?

00:22:28.000 But some of it does make sense, right?

00:22:30.000 What are you, 35?

00:22:31.000 Yeah.

00:22:31.000 Okay, I'm 50. 15 years older than you.

00:22:35.000 You gotta think, you don't really remember before the internet.

00:22:38.000 You're like an infant, okay?

00:22:40.000 I was here as a grown man when the internet hit in 1994. But before that, you would get late night infomercials.

00:22:48.000 You'd be buying fucking squeegees and shit.

00:22:50.000 We were pre-cell phones.

00:22:52.000 Yeah, I was pre-cell phone, bro.

00:22:53.000 Yeah, when I met Brian, he didn't have a phone.

00:22:55.000 No, I know you guys are older.

00:22:57.000 But I'm just telling you, this is, Dianetics was something you'd see on late night television.

00:23:01.000 It was really compelling.

00:23:02.000 Because you couldn't do any research.

00:23:04.000 Dude, there was no Google.

00:23:05.000 There was no YouTube.

00:23:07.000 Eddie Bravo would have been lost.

00:23:08.000 The word is bombed.

00:23:08.000 Eddie would have lost the YouTube knowledge.

00:23:11.000 No, but it's just, with all of us, no one really knew.

00:23:14.000 This is how a lot of things snuck through.

00:23:16.000 So you were curious.

00:23:18.000 You weren't all the way in.

00:23:19.000 No, no, no, no.

00:23:20.000 No, I never went...

00:23:21.000 We never thought that Arnold Schwarzenegger or Sylvester Stallone or any of those people were doing steroids.

00:23:26.000 Shut the fuck up.

00:23:27.000 We didn't.

00:23:27.000 I was seven and knew that before hearing that.

00:23:30.000 I knew they were doing steroids.

00:23:31.000 When I saw Rambo 2, I just thought that was from weightlifting.

00:23:34.000 No, I knew a dude who did steroids when I was in high school.

00:23:37.000 Right, but I didn't know that Hollywood...

00:23:39.000 I didn't know when you see Demolition Manor.

00:23:41.000 I just thought...

00:23:42.000 I was like, dude, how did they get so fucking cut?

00:23:44.000 I gotta start working out.

00:23:45.000 I didn't know...

00:23:46.000 Maybe because I wasn't in the workout world, but I mean...

00:23:49.000 Really?

00:23:50.000 Back then, all of us were naive to steroids.

00:23:53.000 We really were.

00:23:54.000 Here's the thing is, man, you could find out, like, okay, what is Scientology based on?

00:24:00.000 You could find out.

00:24:01.000 You could find in, okay, does chiropractic medicine work?

00:24:03.000 You could Google stuff now, and you could look, okay, does fluoride cure cavities?

00:24:08.000 Right.

00:24:08.000 We didn't get an answer.

00:24:09.000 We didn't get an answer, but we might be able to at least get a sense.

00:24:12.000 And you also get a sense of, like, here's the critics of Mercola.

00:24:16.000 This is what their perspective is.

00:24:18.000 Here's the critics of this naturopathic site that might say some unfounded things about vaccinations or about something.

00:24:26.000 There's always some...

00:24:27.000 You can get a sense.

00:24:28.000 Yes.

00:24:28.000 But at least you have a chance.

00:24:31.000 In 94, dude, when I came out, we didn't have a chance.

00:24:34.000 Not a chance.

00:24:34.000 I had Anthony Robbins' cassettes.

00:24:36.000 I had a fucking vinyl thing, and you open it up, and you have all these different cassettes, and I would listen to those by the pool in my shitty apartment in Revere.

00:24:44.000 Tony Robbins?

00:24:45.000 But didn't you get a lot from him?

00:24:45.000 I got a lot from him.

00:24:47.000 He's legit as fuck.

00:24:48.000 I got a lot out of him.

00:24:49.000 Tony Robbins is legit.

00:24:51.000 Now there's a bunch of people trying to do this shit.

00:24:53.000 There's a lot of frauds.

00:24:53.000 Tony Robbins knows how the human brain works.

00:24:56.000 I found him enormously helpful.

00:24:57.000 But there's guys that...

00:24:59.000 It's the same thing as with musicians or with carpenters or with comedians.

00:25:04.000 There's people that are just kind of bumbling through it, and there's people that kill it.

00:25:09.000 And when it comes to the self-help, personal growth type shit, he kills it.

00:25:13.000 Here's what's interesting.

00:25:15.000 People are so goofy that, you know, he does those cold walk things.

00:25:19.000 These dumb motherfuckers are trying to take selfies while they're cold walking and they're burning their feet off.

00:25:23.000 Because these stupid fucks actually believe that the power of their will is keeping them from...

00:25:30.000 This is how it works, you idiots.

00:25:32.000 Okay, coals.

00:25:33.000 I only found this out a couple days ago.

00:25:35.000 Coals are not very good at projecting heat.

00:25:38.000 That's why you put a fucking frying pan down.

00:25:42.000 That's a conductor of heat.

00:25:43.000 You want that metal.

00:25:45.000 The metal's going to cook well.

00:25:46.000 Things don't cook that good on Kohl's.

00:25:48.000 It's not the same.

00:25:49.000 It's like a really hot pan will fuck you up way quicker than Kohl's.

00:25:55.000 So you can run on Kohl's if you move quick.

00:25:58.000 You just got to go quick.

00:26:00.000 At the end, you'll be like, ah, ooh, ah.

00:26:01.000 But you can actually do it.

00:26:02.000 If you have some calluses on your feet and you move quick enough, you won't get burnt.

00:26:06.000 Sold.

00:26:07.000 But these dummies didn't even move.

00:26:08.000 They just stood there and said, And they're like, oh shit.

00:26:12.000 They just took pictures on fucking coals!

00:26:14.000 They're like, I've just got the power of now!

00:26:17.000 By the way, that's so inconvenient because you can't walk anywhere.

00:26:22.000 Oh my god.

00:26:23.000 Game over, bro.

00:26:23.000 Do you know Shane Mouse?

00:26:24.000 No.

00:26:25.000 The stand-up comic?

00:26:25.000 No.

00:26:26.000 He was hiking at night and jumped off of like a cliff and landed on his feet and broke both of his feet.

00:26:36.000 Fucking A. He jumped and landed like 10 feet below.

00:26:39.000 God damn it.

00:26:40.000 In the mountains.

00:26:41.000 He had to figure out how to get down.

00:26:42.000 And he was...

00:26:43.000 He just fucked up.

00:26:44.000 He made a mistake.

00:26:45.000 I forget the exact story.

00:26:47.000 Do you remember the exact story?

00:26:48.000 It was like a very normal jump.

00:26:49.000 It wasn't anything crazy.

00:26:50.000 He didn't jump somewhere.

00:26:51.000 He just dropped or took a step down.

00:26:54.000 I might be conflating him with someone else.

00:26:56.000 There was another person I know that fell at night and they...

00:27:01.000 It might be a different story.

00:27:02.000 I'm thinking of a second guy who also fell on cliffs.

00:27:06.000 Either way.

00:27:07.000 Shane Miles broke both of his feet.

00:27:09.000 I think he was in crutches for like six months.

00:27:11.000 I think it was the book Blood Meridian.

00:27:14.000 And he talks about, and this apparently was a practice.

00:27:16.000 Sometimes there was a tribe this cowboy gets captured by these Native Americans and the Americans killed his whole posse And then they take him and they take his feet his shoes off and they just cut the first layer of his Feet off they kind of give a nice shaving so that just the soles of his feet are taken off and And so he would have to crawl back into town to explain to them who the fuck was out there.

00:27:43.000 That would suck.

00:27:44.000 He had to crawl like 10 miles and shit.

00:27:47.000 Oh my god.

00:27:47.000 Yeah.

00:27:48.000 Okay.

00:27:49.000 He says, the second I landed, I knew I broke both my heels.

00:27:51.000 My left foot was in really bad shape.

00:27:54.000 The right foot wasn't bad.

00:27:55.000 I could still use my right toes.

00:27:56.000 So with the help of my friend who had to hike around the other way after we decided the jump may not be the best idea, I had to spend the next two hours scooting down the mountain on my butt, hands, and right toes until we got to a flat enough surface where he and some strangers could carry me to his car.

00:28:13.000 He and his wife then had to go a couple of hospitals until we found an ER that was not too busy to see me.

00:28:18.000 Whoa.

00:28:19.000 My favorite part is, you know, it was my birthday, quick hike, have some sushi, catch a movie, pretty low-key night.

00:28:25.000 Yeah.

00:28:25.000 Okay, so he, look at this, the shortcut I'd want to try involved jumping off a cliff that was about 11 feet.

00:28:32.000 I was wearing some barefoot running shoes that were not appropriate for landing, and I thought it would be too high of a jump.

00:28:38.000 We looked into it for a few minutes and talked about it, and then we decided to go for it because we were dumb guys, and that's the sort of thing that dumb guys do.

00:28:44.000 So he jumped 11 feet onto fucking rock in barefoot shoes and smashed his feet.

00:28:51.000 Here's my question.

00:28:52.000 That is so crazy to do.

00:28:53.000 Here's my question.

00:28:54.000 Before anesthesia and x-rays...

00:28:58.000 When you did that, who'd you go to?

00:29:01.000 Oh, you came over.

00:29:02.000 Well, you got back to town even.

00:29:04.000 What would they do?

00:29:04.000 We're going to have to try to set your ankle because that's not a complicated joint.

00:29:08.000 Back then, you're fucked.

00:29:09.000 Back then, you're right.

00:29:10.000 So fucked.

00:29:11.000 You're just a cripple.

00:29:11.000 Think about how tall 11 feet is and then jumping from that down to rocks.

00:29:16.000 Dude, I don't even like running in those barefoot shoes.

00:29:19.000 It's hard on your feet even then.

00:29:20.000 I do.

00:29:21.000 I run on them, but I got to be careful where I step.

00:29:23.000 I have to be careful.

00:29:25.000 You can't step on a jagged rock because it goes...

00:29:28.000 Whereas if you're wearing something like these, these are trail running shoes, I run these, I can step on anything with these fucking things.

00:29:36.000 So I alternate when I trail run, I alternate with shoes like this, that I can just run on anything, and then those Vibrams or the Vivo barefoot ones, but you gotta be careful with those things.

00:29:46.000 Fuck jumping from 11 feet.

00:29:48.000 That!

00:29:48.000 A basketball hoop's 10 feet?

00:29:51.000 Another foot above that.

00:29:52.000 That is crazy.

00:29:53.000 Jumping under rocks.

00:29:54.000 That's crazy high.

00:29:54.000 That's what guys do.

00:29:55.000 That is crazy high.

00:29:56.000 That is such a dumb thing to do.

00:29:58.000 No, they don't.

00:29:59.000 Breaking your feet or your ankles or your legs.

00:30:01.000 Man, you break your elbow, you're like, shit, it broke my elbow.

00:30:03.000 Still good, though.

00:30:04.000 You're going to be all right.

00:30:05.000 Yeah.

00:30:05.000 You're going to be all right.

00:30:06.000 But you can get a blister, apparently, in the wrong place when you're hiking way up in the mountains, and it can kill you.

00:30:11.000 John Wayne Parr got a blister on his foot, or in his heel.

00:30:16.000 He had his heel cracked, got it infected.

00:30:18.000 He was in Thailand.

00:30:19.000 It infected, and he missed his daughter's fight and had to stay in a hospital in Thailand and get IV antibiotics.

00:30:26.000 It must have been so bad, because John's a knight.

00:30:29.000 He's a badass.

00:30:29.000 He's a fucking animal.

00:30:30.000 And his daughter's fighting in Thailand.

00:30:32.000 I mean, you know, and he basically, he started his whole career in Thailand, practically.

00:30:38.000 Dude, crazy.

00:30:39.000 His foot was all swollen up.

00:30:40.000 Like, you gotta be careful with your feet, man.

00:30:42.000 Hell yeah.

00:30:43.000 Don't jump off cliffs.

00:30:44.000 You ever had an ingrown toenail?

00:30:45.000 My brothers were so bad when he was in high school.

00:30:48.000 I went with him.

00:30:49.000 They kept growing into it.

00:30:52.000 They had to take needles, numb his fucking, underneath his toenail, and then yank his toenails off.

00:30:57.000 Well, that's a problem!

00:30:59.000 And then singe the top so the toenail doesn't grow back.

00:31:02.000 What?

00:31:02.000 So it just looks like the bottom of your, his foot looks like the bottom of your foot.

00:31:06.000 So he doesn't have a nail.

00:31:07.000 There's no nails.

00:31:07.000 Oh my god.

00:31:09.000 But that was because they were ingrown, or was there a fungus?

00:31:11.000 No, he was born like that.

00:31:12.000 They kept growing in.

00:31:14.000 So he has no nails now?

00:31:15.000 No nails.

00:31:16.000 That's creepy.

00:31:17.000 It's very creepy.

00:31:19.000 Soft as shit, though.

00:31:20.000 Feels like a koala's nose.

00:31:21.000 My dad's got some nails, and under those nails is about 78 years of fungus.

00:31:28.000 Those are some thick nails.

00:31:30.000 He's got nails, I mean, about as thick as the lid of this table right here.

00:31:35.000 I'm like, what is it with old dude's toes?

00:31:39.000 And their ashy ass heels that are all cracking.

00:31:42.000 He's got a size 14 shoe too, by the way.

00:31:43.000 His foot is that thick.

00:31:44.000 Oh, your dad got a dick on him.

00:31:46.000 He's got a piece on him.

00:31:49.000 So I opened up for Brian in Chicago and I do like this dirty bit right in the back and his mom and his dad, I'm like, oh, it hit me right when they walked in.

00:31:57.000 I went, oh, fuck.

00:31:59.000 I just did that in front of Brian's mom, dad, his two kids and his wife.

00:32:03.000 I was like, notice I just went quiet.

00:32:05.000 I was so, I was like, oh fuck.

00:32:07.000 You were great.

00:32:08.000 He was funny though.

00:32:08.000 He was funny.

00:32:09.000 You gotta do what you gotta do.

00:32:10.000 That's what I was like.

00:32:10.000 You guys decided to come.

00:32:11.000 You decided to come.

00:32:12.000 Yeah, I'm not changing it for you.

00:32:13.000 No, I can't.

00:32:14.000 I gotta do my thing.

00:32:14.000 I apologize.

00:32:15.000 Don't get mad at me.

00:32:16.000 They loved it.

00:32:16.000 I was so embarrassed.

00:32:17.000 It's comedy.

00:32:18.000 Don't get mad.

00:32:18.000 Fuck no.

00:32:19.000 Don't get mad.

00:32:19.000 It's great.

00:32:21.000 Great shows.

00:32:21.000 Shout out to Chicago.

00:32:23.000 Thalia Hall, thanks everybody for coming out.

00:32:25.000 Sold out three shows.

00:32:26.000 Yes.

00:32:28.000 So when you do this now, is this a self-funded thing?

00:32:32.000 No, this is Comedy Dynamics.

00:32:34.000 So they're doing a lot of specials now, right?

00:32:36.000 Yeah, and they did a great job.

00:32:37.000 I love the space.

00:32:38.000 It looked amazing.

00:32:39.000 How many different specials have they done?

00:32:41.000 270. That is incredible.

00:32:43.000 I know.

00:32:44.000 That's a lot.

00:32:44.000 That's incredible.

00:32:45.000 They might be the most ever.

00:32:46.000 Yes.

00:32:46.000 Who's done more?

00:32:47.000 I don't think anybody.

00:32:48.000 That's incredible.

00:32:49.000 Brian Volkweis.

00:32:50.000 He's great.

00:32:51.000 But they did such a good job, and I captured everything I wanted to, so I'm pumped.

00:32:56.000 I think it's the best thing I've ever done.

00:32:57.000 That's beautiful.

00:32:58.000 Yeah.

00:32:59.000 Chicago's a great fucking town to do that too.

00:33:01.000 God, it's great.

00:33:01.000 God, I love that place.

00:33:02.000 Me too.

00:33:03.000 I wasn't a fan until we did this.

00:33:04.000 Such a history of events where improv was invented.

00:33:07.000 It's just a great town too.

00:33:09.000 It's got a lot of different qualities.

00:33:11.000 It's got a bit of Midwest politeness and it's got a big city mentality all together.

00:33:17.000 It's a weird spot.

00:33:18.000 Yeah, it's weird.

00:33:19.000 It's a weird spot because it's like a little bit of both.

00:33:21.000 Great food.

00:33:23.000 Friendly ass people.

00:33:24.000 People not afraid to get fat.

00:33:26.000 That is correct, sir.

00:33:27.000 I'm not afraid to carve it up.

00:33:29.000 Carb Central.

00:33:30.000 I mean, they looked at pizza when they went, this is not unhealthy enough.

00:33:34.000 Let's make this shit about six inches deep.

00:33:38.000 Bro, we had no fucking pizza out there, Brian.

00:33:41.000 Oh my god, Chicago's now America's rat capital.

00:33:44.000 Chicago beats out New York City, Boston, and Washington, D.C. as America's rat capital.

00:33:48.000 Okay, here's the problem with this.

00:33:50.000 Rat's a problem.

00:33:50.000 They don't know how many rats are out there.

00:33:53.000 They're just bullshitting.

00:33:54.000 They're not doing a detailed fucking analysis.

00:33:56.000 Dude, you don't know where they live.

00:33:57.000 Yeah, well, how do you know how many...

00:33:59.000 How do they really know how many rats there are in New York?

00:34:02.000 Are they just guessing?

00:34:03.000 I don't think so.

00:34:04.000 I think they can actually...

00:34:05.000 Don't they...

00:34:05.000 Can't they tell by, like...

00:34:07.000 Like, my buddy had a...

00:34:08.000 What's that?

00:34:09.000 This is off of complaints.

00:34:10.000 Get the fuck out of here.

00:34:12.000 That means Chicago's complaining more.

00:34:16.000 Chicago, known for being bitches more than here.

00:34:19.000 Also, people are inside more than Boston.

00:34:20.000 Be scared of a fucking rodent.

00:34:22.000 Come on, bro.

00:34:23.000 Who am I going to call about a rat?

00:34:25.000 That's why LA's not on there.

00:34:26.000 Don't give a fuck.

00:34:27.000 Dude, my buddy bought a building in New York and he had to clean it out in the basement.

00:34:32.000 Jimmy Burke told me, my buddy Steve Shucker, was coming out when they were killing them.

00:34:36.000 They were poisoning them.

00:34:39.000 They were coming out with garbage bags, the industrial-sized garbage bags full of rats, and they did it for three days.

00:34:46.000 It was thousands, tens of thousands.

00:34:49.000 Is there like 60 million rats or some shit?

00:34:50.000 That documentary on Netflix.

00:34:51.000 That documentary on Netflix is insane.

00:34:54.000 They're amazing.

00:34:55.000 A nice clean rat, though, I like, man.

00:34:57.000 Cutie pie.

00:34:57.000 Yeah, a little cutie that someone's got as a pet.

00:34:59.000 Yeah, they're cool.

00:34:59.000 Until they carry the bubonic plate.

00:35:01.000 I like the white ones with red eyes, though.

00:35:02.000 I think they decided that that's not true.

00:35:05.000 I think they decided that it was actually the fleas that were on the rats that carried the plague.

00:35:09.000 That's right.

00:35:09.000 It was the fleas.

00:35:10.000 The fleas, yes.

00:35:10.000 So you can't really blame the rats.

00:35:11.000 No, but the rats carried the fleas, exactly.

00:35:13.000 Right, but that's like we carried the bubonic plague.

00:35:16.000 We're going to blame humans for the plague?

00:35:18.000 Yes.

00:35:20.000 You know, we always look to like, oh, it's swine flu, bro.

00:35:23.000 Came from the pigs.

00:35:24.000 Giant rat bigger than a dog near the playground.

00:35:27.000 That's a nutria.

00:35:28.000 Oh my god.

00:35:29.000 That's a nutria.

00:35:30.000 Dude, that's Master Splinter.

00:35:32.000 No, it's a different kind of animal.

00:35:33.000 It's a nutria.

00:35:33.000 It's from West Africa.

00:35:34.000 It's still a giant fucking version of a rat.

00:35:36.000 Yeah, but they have a lot of those.

00:35:38.000 You know, they're starting to see those in Texas now.

00:35:40.000 They're spreading across the lower part of this country.

00:35:44.000 Can you make them pets?

00:35:45.000 They're kind of cool.

00:35:46.000 Apparently they're good eating.

00:35:47.000 They're like a beaver.

00:35:48.000 Yes.

00:35:49.000 Dave Attell had an episode of his TV show.

00:35:52.000 Remember that TV show that we do?

00:35:53.000 Insomniac?

00:35:53.000 Yes.

00:35:54.000 Oh, I like that show.

00:35:55.000 And they went nutria hunting.

00:35:56.000 Really?

00:35:57.000 Yeah, they're fucking everywhere.

00:35:58.000 I think it was in Louisiana.

00:36:00.000 Yeah.

00:36:00.000 I don't quite remember.

00:36:01.000 It was somewhere in the south.

00:36:03.000 But when those motherfuckers take hold...

00:36:06.000 Once they're there, it's real difficult to shake them off.

00:36:09.000 Ranella actually had an episode of his podcast about a place where they were killing off the nutria and how they figured out how to do it.

00:36:18.000 Really?

00:36:18.000 Yeah.

00:36:19.000 It's a crazy thing, that little animal.

00:36:21.000 Somebody brought it over here.

00:36:22.000 Did you see crazy animals?

00:36:23.000 I saw your Instagram joke.

00:36:25.000 How were the crazy-ass animals in Thailand?

00:36:27.000 You know what the most depressing thing was?

00:36:29.000 We went to one of those tiger sanctuary things.

00:36:32.000 Oh, yeah.

00:36:33.000 Oh, were they on, like, night crew or some shit?

00:36:34.000 Dude, they're drugged the fuck up for sure.

00:36:37.000 You know how you can tell?

00:36:39.000 Because people get in there?

00:36:40.000 Well, first of all, because the babies, they'll let you touch the babies first.

00:36:45.000 There's different packages.

00:36:46.000 You can package the baby package or the young lion package or the giant lion package.

00:36:50.000 Get that VIP package?

00:36:51.000 I'll take baby.

00:36:53.000 The babies are adorable.

00:36:54.000 These little cute things, but they're super like playful and active and big.

00:36:59.000 And then you get to like a little bigger and they seem to be behaving normal and they have a bunch of trainers in there with them.

00:37:05.000 And then you get to the big ones and the big ones are fucking doped out of their mind.

00:37:10.000 Like they just gave them a bucket of heroin.

00:37:12.000 So they're just laying there like this, like looking at you.

00:37:15.000 I believe it.

00:37:15.000 Dude, none of them got up.

00:37:17.000 That's a bummer.

00:37:18.000 They just lay there.

00:37:18.000 And people lay next to them and hug them and take pictures with them.

00:37:22.000 You're out for goddamn money.

00:37:23.000 Dude, but it's weird to watch.

00:37:24.000 You didn't let your kids and wife do that, no?

00:37:25.000 Right now.

00:37:26.000 No, me neither.

00:37:27.000 Fuck that.

00:37:27.000 The line's like, oh, fuck, I feel better.

00:37:29.000 We were there.

00:37:31.000 We didn't know what it was until we got there.

00:37:33.000 I got super depressed immediately.

00:37:35.000 But when we were there, the oldest we got to was a nine-month cat.

00:37:40.000 And that cat does not seem like it's drugged up at all.

00:37:43.000 How big?

00:37:43.000 They're young.

00:37:44.000 They're pretty big, man, like a mastiff.

00:37:46.000 It'll fuck you up.

00:37:47.000 Still fuck you up.

00:37:48.000 Giant cat, but still.

00:37:50.000 Oh, 100% fuck you up, dude.

00:37:52.000 But it's like a seven-month, eight-month, nine-month cat, and they're big like a dog.

00:37:56.000 Like a big dog.

00:37:57.000 Yeah.

00:37:58.000 Fuck, man.

00:37:59.000 Enjoy that shit.

00:38:00.000 Right, like, you ever see a mastiff at six months?

00:38:02.000 It's pretty big.

00:38:03.000 Yeah, six months.

00:38:04.000 Cat's bigger.

00:38:05.000 Goddamn.

00:38:05.000 So this thing is bigger than that, you know, probably 175 pounds, something like that, 200 pounds, and it's just hanging around, and they have all these trainers that are just, like, around the cat all the time.

00:38:15.000 We're like, what in the fuck are we doing here?

00:38:17.000 What are they going to do if that cat's like, you know what?

00:38:19.000 Fuck.

00:38:19.000 They have guns and stuff?

00:38:21.000 They have sticks with them.

00:38:23.000 The cats are listening to them for the most part.

00:38:25.000 But then it gets to an untenable size.

00:38:28.000 500 pounds?

00:38:29.000 Yeah, and they have these things in these cages.

00:38:31.000 And then there was other ones that clearly weren't drugged up.

00:38:34.000 Like you pass by one cage, and this one's just walking back and forth and pacing and looking at you and looking at everybody.

00:38:40.000 I'm like, okay, he's awake.

00:38:42.000 He's legit.

00:38:42.000 He just got off his meds.

00:38:44.000 That's not stuff like that.

00:38:45.000 Yeah, and these other ones are just dragged down like this.

00:38:49.000 That's a bummer.

00:38:50.000 It is a drag, man.

00:38:51.000 Was your wife bummed out too?

00:38:52.000 Everybody was bummed out.

00:38:54.000 Everybody was bummed out.

00:38:55.000 It's a drag, man.

00:38:56.000 They found one that was selling tiger parts.

00:38:59.000 Oh, I'm sure, man.

00:39:01.000 People are poor.

00:39:02.000 They're fucking taking risks.

00:39:04.000 Gallbladder and shit.

00:39:05.000 Not good.

00:39:06.000 Yeah, the bear gallbladder is apparently such an issue that some Asian countries want bear gallbladder.

00:39:12.000 Some people like it.

00:39:13.000 It's like some sort of a delicacy.

00:39:14.000 It's supposed to have some weird properties to it.

00:39:16.000 Goddammit.

00:39:17.000 Probably like rhino horn type properties.

00:39:20.000 But it's so bad that in British Columbia, if you hunt bear, like say if you hunt a black bear, you're not allowed to open up the body cavity.

00:39:26.000 Okay, you have to take the meat off the outside.

00:39:28.000 You can't even go into the body cavity.

00:39:30.000 Yeah, they have a law against it because they don't want people harvesting bear gallbladders and they don't want people killing them.

00:39:36.000 Yes.

00:39:37.000 Bare bile does have medicinal uses, but there are cruelty-free alternatives.

00:39:41.000 Bare bile has been used in traditional Asian medicine for thousands of years.

00:39:45.000 It contains high levels of, good luck with this word, ursodeoxycholic acid, known to be useful for treating liver and gallbladder conditions.

00:39:56.000 So it does have some medicinal value to it.

00:39:58.000 Still, though.

00:39:59.000 But I had friends that were bear hunting, and people were asking them for the gallbladders, and they were like, it's illegal.

00:40:05.000 Wow.

00:40:05.000 He's like, I'll just get it for my grandma.

00:40:07.000 She really likes it.

00:40:09.000 You're like, get the fuck out of here, man.

00:40:10.000 It's a bad thing to have.

00:40:12.000 If you get caught with it, it's like you're getting caught with something.

00:40:16.000 It's not legal to possess a part of an animal that it's legal for you to kill it.

00:40:21.000 That's what's crazy.

00:40:22.000 Stop and think about that.

00:40:23.000 You can kill it.

00:40:24.000 You can kill the animal.

00:40:25.000 You just can't possess a part of its body.

00:40:29.000 You're not allowed to open its cavity.

00:40:31.000 Is there any other animal like that?

00:40:33.000 Not that I know of.

00:40:34.000 Not really, right?

00:40:34.000 It goes to waste.

00:40:36.000 You could use it, but you can't use it.

00:40:38.000 Weird.

00:40:38.000 Because so many people want it that they made it illegal to have it.

00:40:42.000 Why?

00:40:43.000 Because bile's always been used, apparently.

00:40:44.000 It's one of the compounds or whatever it is that's used.

00:40:47.000 It's good birth control.

00:40:48.000 Put it in your mouth.

00:40:50.000 Nobody will want to have anything to do with you.

00:40:52.000 No, but it's used for medicine.

00:40:55.000 Some medicines like disinfectants.

00:40:57.000 Really?

00:40:58.000 Yeah.

00:40:58.000 Bile was always a traditional medicine that actually worked.

00:41:00.000 I mean, if you mixed it with stuff.

00:41:02.000 How were the elephants down there, though?

00:41:03.000 I love an elephant.

00:41:04.000 That was way different.

00:41:04.000 The elephant was a really positive experience because the elephants are in a rehab center where they actually reintroduce them back to the wild.

00:41:11.000 And we see the way these people, first of all, they're not contained.

00:41:15.000 They roam.

00:41:17.000 Not only do they roam, there's no fence.

00:41:20.000 So the people move with them?

00:41:22.000 Bro, they come out of the forest?

00:41:23.000 Yeah, the people are all there with them, taking care of them, feeding them.

00:41:28.000 They're constantly giving them sugarcane, washing them, cleaning them.

00:41:31.000 And when you're there, they document, they're trying to explain how all the money that you pay for to experience hanging out with these elephants for a day goes to rehabilitation.

00:41:43.000 It goes to food, and they've reintroduced seven elephants into the wild through this one facility, which is giant.

00:41:50.000 So they live wild.

00:41:51.000 In Thailand, obviously.

00:41:53.000 There's a lot of elephants in Thailand.

00:41:54.000 I always forget that.

00:41:55.000 And so where these people are, the forest is like super dense, man.

00:41:59.000 And the elephants just wander through the forest eating whatever the fuck they want.

00:42:03.000 It is crazy to see, man.

00:42:05.000 So they're kind of wild.

00:42:06.000 They're wild.

00:42:07.000 They're wild, but they're not.

00:42:08.000 See, a lot of them came from zoos.

00:42:10.000 A lot of them came from circuses.

00:42:12.000 But they can be...

00:42:13.000 Look, they're basically living like they would in the wild.

00:42:16.000 So it's not a giant stretch to take them and reintroduce them to a place as long as there's food.

00:42:20.000 They're fairly tame.

00:42:23.000 They're so big, dude.

00:42:25.000 They do whatever the fuck they want.

00:42:27.000 Do you grab their fucking trunks?

00:42:28.000 Are they soft?

00:42:29.000 No, it's hard as a rock.

00:42:30.000 There's 600 muscles in their trunk alone and no bones.

00:42:34.000 600 muscles just in the trunk.

00:42:37.000 Their physical strength is so insane, dude.

00:42:40.000 It's so hard.

00:42:41.000 When you're around them and you realize, like, oh, God.

00:42:44.000 I'm not shit.

00:42:45.000 The riding them was sketchy.

00:42:47.000 Like, it's sketchy because you worry, well, what if they fall?

00:42:50.000 Like, one of them slipped a little bit and caught itself.

00:42:52.000 And one lady did fall off.

00:42:54.000 And she was okay.

00:42:56.000 But it's a possibility that you could fall off of a fucking elephant, which you're ten feet up.

00:43:02.000 Yeah.

00:43:02.000 I mean, these are, some of them, this one lady had a, I had a female that I was riding.

00:43:08.000 This one lady, and you're only riding it for like 20 minutes.

00:43:10.000 Were you in a basket?

00:43:11.000 Were you in a basket or just on it?

00:43:12.000 No, you're just on it.

00:43:13.000 Really?

00:43:13.000 Holding onto a rope.

00:43:14.000 Oh, wow.

00:43:15.000 I've never done that.

00:43:15.000 They put a rope around the waist and you hold onto the rope.

00:43:19.000 It's like loosely around the, you're barely on, man.

00:43:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:21.000 You're barely on.

00:43:22.000 Wow.

00:43:23.000 And if they wanted you off, you're off instantly.

00:43:26.000 You weigh nothing to them.

00:43:28.000 Or if it was like, oh, my back itches.

00:43:30.000 Game over.

00:43:30.000 The one I had was giant, and the one this lady had next to me was literally 30%, 40% larger than hers.

00:43:37.000 It was so big.

00:43:38.000 And it was a male.

00:43:40.000 And when it trumpets, when it just decided to...

00:43:42.000 Like right next to everybody, everybody went...

00:43:45.000 What the fuck?

00:43:47.000 So loud?

00:43:48.000 You just realize what it is.

00:43:50.000 It was raining every day there.

00:43:52.000 It rains constantly.

00:43:52.000 This is a rainy season too.

00:43:53.000 And this elephant is moving through the mist in the forest and just eating whatever it wants with these giant white tusks.

00:44:00.000 And I'm like, that is a crazy living being.

00:44:03.000 That is a crazy majestic animal.

00:44:06.000 Have you seen that video?

00:44:08.000 It was dope.

00:44:09.000 Have you seen the video where there's a bull elephant hitting a Mack truck?

00:44:13.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:14.000 Oh, where it trucks it over?

00:44:17.000 They've had a bunch of them in India where they get tired of being abused and they just go nuts.

00:44:22.000 Unbelievable.

00:44:22.000 But with this thing, these animals were loved.

00:44:24.000 Like, you could really tell.

00:44:26.000 First of all, you're feeding them with your hands.

00:44:28.000 You know, when we give them a sugar cane, you're so scared because his mouth is giant.

00:44:33.000 But you put it in there and they're just super gentle, man.

00:44:35.000 They don't snap at it and wait for you.

00:44:36.000 Is the end of their trunk soft?

00:44:38.000 Nothing's soft.

00:44:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:39.000 It's soft.

00:44:40.000 I mean, it's not like a bone.

00:44:42.000 But the trunk is insanely powerful.

00:44:45.000 They just grab shit with that thing and rip it out of the roots.

00:44:49.000 Such a cool animal.

00:44:49.000 Snap things like logs and shit with their trunks.

00:44:53.000 And they say they can feel like what humans feel.

00:44:55.000 Like when one dies, they mourn shit of it.

00:44:57.000 Yeah, well, they definitely have incredible memories because there was one video of an elephant meeting an elephant that had been separated from for 20 years.

00:45:05.000 And they met each other and they run to each other and they're bouncing around.

00:45:09.000 Yeah, they recognize each other.

00:45:11.000 They're like this really calm, weird animal that eats everything, dude.

00:45:16.000 You realize, like, one of the things I was thinking, I was like, imagine if you had one of these that lived in your yard.

00:45:21.000 You would have no yard.

00:45:22.000 And this is the problem that people have in Africa.

00:45:25.000 Yeah.

00:45:25.000 Okay, I'm a giant fan of elephants, but if you're a poor farmer and you live in this...

00:45:33.000 Wipe out your crop.

00:45:34.000 Yeah, they just go right through your crops.

00:45:37.000 You can't do anything about it.

00:45:38.000 You're starving.

00:45:39.000 You have children.

00:45:39.000 Imagine you.

00:45:40.000 You have your little boy, and your little boy's going to go hungry now because these elephants just want to eat whatever the fuck...

00:45:45.000 They don't understand that you grew this.

00:45:47.000 We go on elephant hunting.

00:45:48.000 Well, this is the argument for controlling some of the population.

00:45:53.000 Because we always think, we say, oh, elephants are endangered.

00:45:56.000 Well, they definitely are in some places.

00:45:59.000 But in other places, in certain areas, they have large populations.

00:46:02.000 You've got to realize how big Africa is.

00:46:04.000 I mean, have you ever seen the map where they take America and they put it inside of Africa?

00:46:08.000 And they put Asia inside of Africa?

00:46:10.000 No, let me see that.

00:46:11.000 I've not seen that.

00:46:12.000 Oh, my God.

00:46:13.000 Africa's giant.

00:46:14.000 But do we have to kill them?

00:46:15.000 Can't we redirect these fucking things?

00:46:17.000 It's a lot of money to do.

00:46:18.000 That's the problem.

00:46:19.000 The real problem is the money.

00:46:20.000 Because you maybe could grab them and capture them and move them.

00:46:23.000 I'm not talking about fucking helicopters.

00:46:25.000 Good luck moving them.

00:46:25.000 But that's how they do it when they put them in a zoo.

00:46:28.000 I mean, there has to be some capturing and moving.

00:46:29.000 You go a very short distance with that and you have to tranquilize them.

00:46:34.000 They're so big.

00:46:35.000 We got the cloth underneath.

00:46:37.000 We're going to lift them back.

00:46:37.000 Look at that.

00:46:38.000 Look how big Africa is.

00:46:39.000 No, that's not true.

00:46:40.000 Yes, it is.

00:46:40.000 That is, bro.

00:46:41.000 Africa, B? Africa is so big, dude.

00:46:43.000 Is that true?

00:46:44.000 Yep.

00:46:45.000 It has all of China in it, all of the United States.

00:46:47.000 Yep.

00:46:48.000 Yep.

00:46:49.000 Come on.

00:46:50.000 All of India.

00:46:50.000 I'm amazed at that.

00:46:51.000 All of Japan, all of Spain.

00:46:53.000 Dude, that's nuts.

00:46:54.000 Dude, all of Italy.

00:46:56.000 All of China.

00:46:57.000 Dude, does it have Japan in it?

00:46:59.000 Did I make that up?

00:46:59.000 Yeah, Japan's over...

00:47:00.000 No.

00:47:01.000 I made it up.

00:47:02.000 Oh, Japan's at the bottom.

00:47:03.000 Yeah, Japan's at the bottom.

00:47:04.000 So that's real.

00:47:05.000 That's insane, man.

00:47:07.000 That's so big.

00:47:08.000 So, okay, so imagine the United States.

00:47:11.000 Imagine if we are over here in California, and we're like, yeah, I don't see any fucking elephants.

00:47:17.000 Meanwhile, in New York, they're just getting trampled to death through Manhattan.

00:47:21.000 And we're like, don't kill the elephants, bro!

00:47:24.000 They're nowhere!

00:47:25.000 Look!

00:47:25.000 Look around Calabasas!

00:47:27.000 You don't see a single fucking elephant, man!

00:47:29.000 Don't be an asshole!

00:47:31.000 Meanwhile, your granny's getting stomped to death.

00:47:33.000 New York's like bitch.

00:47:34.000 But there's very little continuous habitat for the migrations, apparently.

00:47:39.000 It's all broken up.

00:47:41.000 I think there's a lot of problems with the places where they're underpopulated, the places where they're overpopulated.

00:47:47.000 It's just...

00:47:49.000 It's a crazy, amazing animal.

00:47:51.000 It would be really nice if people could figure out a way to live in peace with it.

00:47:55.000 It is a fascinating animal to be around.

00:47:58.000 They were saying how...

00:48:00.000 I was watching this on Animal Planet or some shit, but you know how they take out the bull elephants and people are cool with it?

00:48:05.000 Like, oh, because they kill the smaller ones or they fuck things up.

00:48:09.000 They were saying the problem with that with elephants is those older ones know the path to water and where to go.

00:48:15.000 And when you kill the older ones...

00:48:17.000 The other ones don't know where the fuck to go.

00:48:18.000 They also teach the younger ones how to behave.

00:48:20.000 So they watch their, like, pass once you take out the bull, and they're fucked.

00:48:24.000 Because they're saying the older ones have so much knowledge to drop on these little bastards.

00:48:28.000 We have certain animals that we get super mad if someone kills.

00:48:30.000 An elephant is one of them, and a giraffe is another one.

00:48:33.000 Fuck yeah, because they're not, you know, they're not predators.

00:48:36.000 You know what I read about that giraffe that that lady killed and she got in trouble?

00:48:39.000 Here's the problem.

00:48:40.000 It was a giant, old, 18-year-old giraffe.

00:48:43.000 It was killing young males.

00:48:45.000 It killed three young males.

00:48:46.000 They were going to have to kill it anyway.

00:48:47.000 So that's how they get a person like that to do it.

00:48:49.000 The only other option is they could take it and put it in some sort of a zoo, but it was a non-viable male.

00:48:55.000 And when non-viable males are around young males, apparently they kill them.

00:48:58.000 They also don't mention that that revenue, you pay a lot of money to kill those.

00:49:03.000 Like $50,000.

00:49:04.000 Yeah, you pay a lot.

00:49:04.000 That revenue goes back into the community there.

00:49:08.000 And I guess there's no such thing as a black giraffe.

00:49:10.000 Everyone's like, that's a black giraffe.

00:49:12.000 Well, when they get older, they get darker.

00:49:14.000 But it's really rare that an animal in the wild gets to 18 years old.

00:49:18.000 He was fucking big.

00:49:19.000 Huge!

00:49:20.000 But again, when you kill off that big male, he had a lot of knowledge to drop on these other little dumb ass rats.

00:49:24.000 No, he wasn't dropping any knowledge.

00:49:26.000 He was killing them.

00:49:27.000 Rhino's doing the same thing.

00:49:28.000 See, they're different.

00:49:29.000 That's the reason why that Corey Knowlton, I think that was his name, he got in trouble for shooting that rhino.

00:49:35.000 He paid $250,000 to shoot.

00:49:37.000 It was more than that.

00:49:40.000 They were going to have to kill it because it had killed a male and it had killed a female.

00:49:45.000 Killed a male breeding her and it killed a young, no, killed a female breeding her and it killed a young male.

00:49:51.000 This thing was so old he paid I think $391,000.

00:49:54.000 Something crazy like that.

00:49:55.000 Is he just Scrooge McDuck rich?

00:49:56.000 He wants to kill a fucking rhino.

00:49:58.000 He's ballin'.

00:49:59.000 And he wanted to kill the rhino that bad?

00:50:01.000 Is that his name?

00:50:01.000 He's a hunter.

00:50:02.000 Yeah.

00:50:03.000 We had him on the podcast.

00:50:04.000 Really smart guy.

00:50:05.000 Not what you think when you think of a guy who does something like that.

00:50:10.000 But is nature not going to take care of itself with these rhinos and the giraffes?

00:50:13.000 No.

00:50:13.000 They're so endangered.

00:50:14.000 Because the predators are...

00:50:15.000 The rhinos are so endangered that it's very dangerous to just let nature play its course out.

00:50:19.000 Because animals have gone extinct.

00:50:21.000 If you really go over the list of animals that have been extinct just while we've been alive, you don't think about it, but there's been a lot.

00:50:29.000 And then if you look over the course of human history, fuck, man, a lot of animals have gone extinct while we've been alive.

00:50:36.000 They're not living in a natural habitat anyway.

00:50:38.000 Their habitat has been so fucked with to begin with.

00:50:41.000 And there's so few rhinos.

00:50:43.000 Back in the day, yes, nature would have found its way, but when you have...

00:50:46.000 The thing is, this guy's 300 grand or whatever it is, that's going to go directly into keeping those other ones alive.

00:50:52.000 They're going to have money for the scientists, they're going to have money for anti-poaching efforts.

00:50:56.000 It's just, it seems counterintuitive.

00:50:59.000 I know.

00:50:59.000 Your natural instinct when they post on the gram, like, oh, just fucking kill this black giraffe, it's like, god damn, bitch.

00:51:05.000 Right, and why would you want to shoot a giraffe?

00:51:07.000 Why would you want to shoot a rhino?

00:51:09.000 I get it, man.

00:51:11.000 But it's more complicated than you think it is.

00:51:15.000 You know what I'm suspect of?

00:51:17.000 You know those poachers that were killed by those lions?

00:51:20.000 Yeah.

00:51:20.000 I don't think that happened.

00:51:22.000 I think they got shot.

00:51:24.000 You're a conspiracy guy today, bro.

00:51:25.000 I think they got shot by poachers, and the poachers were like, it's a lot easier just to say that they got eaten by lions.

00:51:31.000 Well, I will tell you as a fact, I know people that have gone over there to hunt, and they just shoot at poachers.

00:51:39.000 Just shoot at them.

00:51:40.000 Yeah.

00:51:41.000 And obviously we're talking about Africa.

00:51:43.000 It's an enormous, enormous place.

00:51:46.000 Wild West.

00:51:46.000 So you know for a fact there are certain hunters that go there and kill poachers.

00:51:51.000 It's entirely possible that that happens.

00:51:53.000 So hunting kills.

00:51:53.000 But I'm saying that the people that are the professionals that work on those giant ranches, like there's a lot of these private hunting ranches that are hundreds of thousands of acres even and they're all fenced in and people get inside and they poach.

00:52:06.000 What does that mean?

00:52:07.000 It means they're trying to eat.

00:52:08.000 Right.

00:52:09.000 You know, it means they're starving a lot of times, and they're trying to do whatever the fuck they can to make money.

00:52:13.000 Whether they can make money by chopping off a rhino horn, or they make money by selling meat from some antelope that they shot they weren't supposed to shoot.

00:52:20.000 But my point is that people have told me that they know of...

00:52:26.000 These people over there shooting at poachers.

00:52:28.000 Just shooting at them.

00:52:29.000 Like you would shoot at a rat or a coyote or something that was trying to eat your chickens or something like that.

00:52:35.000 Then of course you shoot them and the lion's going to come along.

00:52:37.000 You might be right.

00:52:38.000 That's what it feels like.

00:52:40.000 My friend who was over there said he couldn't believe it.

00:52:43.000 They just will shoot at poachers.

00:52:45.000 Damn.

00:52:46.000 And poachers will shoot at you too.

00:52:48.000 I was going to say, poachers know this, right?

00:52:49.000 They're also part of, some of them are organized gangs.

00:52:52.000 Oh man.

00:52:53.000 You know, it's one of those things where you're like, what would you do if you were in that village?

00:52:57.000 You'd be in that fucking organized gang too.

00:52:59.000 You'd probably stay out of Africa.

00:53:01.000 Well, if you're born there, I'm saying.

00:53:02.000 I'm saying us.

00:53:03.000 Probably pass.

00:53:04.000 Our pass.

00:53:05.000 Well, how about malaria, which has killed half of the people that have ever died ever?

00:53:08.000 You have to get all those shots before you go.

00:53:10.000 My wife's doing that right now.

00:53:11.000 She's going to Kenya.

00:53:12.000 What?

00:53:13.000 Oh, yeah.

00:53:14.000 First class.

00:53:15.000 First class safari.

00:53:16.000 I can't make it.

00:53:17.000 I've got to go to China.

00:53:18.000 Beijing.

00:53:18.000 There's no malaria there.

00:53:19.000 I don't know which one's worse.

00:53:21.000 Yo, here's the thing about China.

00:53:22.000 We had to stop in in China.

00:53:24.000 They have a different sense of personal space.

00:53:27.000 Like, as far as, like, getting in between you in a line.

00:53:30.000 Oh, they don't give a fuck.

00:53:31.000 You're walking through a thing, and there's, like, a merging thing.

00:53:34.000 There's no merging, son.

00:53:35.000 They're going to go right into your kids, right into you, your wife, like whoever.

00:53:38.000 That's why they drive like that.

00:53:39.000 Dude, it is crazy.

00:53:40.000 It's crazy, but they're not rude.

00:53:43.000 It's just a different way.

00:53:44.000 Because there's so many people.

00:53:45.000 Exactly.

00:53:46.000 They have to figure it out.

00:53:47.000 Exactly.

00:53:47.000 There's a billion amount of people.

00:53:49.000 They're not impolite people, but they get misconstrued as being impolite because we're not used to navigating that kind of numbers like they are.

00:53:56.000 It's crazy to see, though, man.

00:53:58.000 Watch them.

00:53:58.000 Even if you're just watching them do it with other people, just walk right in front of people and smush into each other.

00:54:03.000 If you do that here, though, you'd be like, what the fuck?

00:54:05.000 People get mad at you.

00:54:06.000 Well, because when I went to Australia, a lot of Chinese and Japanese and Koreans were on holiday in Australia.

00:54:12.000 And I was with Chin, who's Korean, my producer.

00:54:15.000 And they kept, they were super, we'd be in line, they'd bump into me or something.

00:54:18.000 I'm like, dude, what the fuck?

00:54:20.000 And he's like, no, no, no, no.

00:54:21.000 They're not being disrespectful.

00:54:22.000 That's literally just how, that's how they, that's how they grew up.

00:54:24.000 They just got used to stupid numbers of people where you get used to people bumping into each other.

00:54:30.000 They don't move out of your way.

00:54:31.000 There's none of that shit.

00:54:32.000 Yeah, India is kind of similar where people stack behind you really closely.

00:54:36.000 This is the trend, right?

00:54:38.000 The argument is that you get too many people and then the people lose their value because they become a hindrance.

00:54:43.000 I was thinking that yesterday.

00:54:44.000 I was at the 4.05 at 6 o'clock yesterday.

00:54:47.000 You've been there before, right?

00:54:49.000 Shoot me.

00:54:49.000 It is a crazy thing to experience.

00:54:51.000 I'm going to get into it after this, but yeah.

00:54:52.000 It also makes you think, like, if there was an end-of-the-world type scenario and you were trying to get back to your family, in L.A., you got zero chance.

00:55:01.000 Correct.

00:55:01.000 You're going to walk way quicker than 20 miles to your house.

00:55:04.000 I see what you're talking about.

00:55:05.000 You want to get a helicopter, bro.

00:55:08.000 Bill Burr, he has one.

00:55:09.000 He flies one around.

00:55:10.000 Well, he doesn't have his own, but he took lessons.

00:55:13.000 Bill knows how to fly.

00:55:14.000 Bill's a helicopter pilot.

00:55:15.000 He flies all the time, right?

00:55:16.000 Yeah, all the time.

00:55:17.000 He flew down to San Diego for a gig and flew back.

00:55:19.000 Really?

00:55:19.000 That's insane.

00:55:20.000 That's cool.

00:55:21.000 That probably took him 20 minutes.

00:55:23.000 I flew from San Diego to LA. Don't ask me how and why, but my plane had to stop over in San Diego.

00:55:29.000 26 minutes.

00:55:30.000 That's a hilarious flight.

00:55:32.000 That's a hilarious flight.

00:55:33.000 It took me six hours.

00:55:34.000 The drive is rough, son.

00:55:36.000 If you hit that traffic, it's in six hours.

00:55:39.000 You've got to plan that motherfucker correct.

00:55:40.000 Dude, I was at the comedy store at La Jolla at a Thursday night show, 8 o'clock.

00:55:43.000 I was like, oh, dude, if I leave by 2, we got this all day.

00:55:46.000 I got there right at 8. Really?

00:55:49.000 Right at 8. It took you six hours?

00:55:51.000 There's accidents all up and down the floor.

00:55:53.000 Oh, my God.

00:55:54.000 Right when you get into San Diego, accident.

00:55:56.000 What?

00:55:56.000 I was so stressed.

00:55:57.000 You know what's crazy, bro?

00:55:58.000 Orange County.

00:55:58.000 Orange County has so many people in it.

00:56:00.000 It's like a little China.

00:56:01.000 It's gorgeous, though.

00:56:02.000 It's beautiful.

00:56:04.000 But it's so crazy.

00:56:05.000 You go there and just the density of people in Orange County.

00:56:08.000 I'm like, wait a minute.

00:56:08.000 How many people are here?

00:56:09.000 This is a crazy spot.

00:56:11.000 But then there's some dope spots like Laguna Niguel.

00:56:14.000 Oh yeah.

00:56:14.000 How about Chicago?

00:56:16.000 To go 11 miles took us an hour and a half.

00:56:18.000 Chicago, worst traffic I've ever seen in my life.

00:56:19.000 No.

00:56:20.000 Dude.

00:56:20.000 It can't be worse than going through Orange County at 5 o'clock.

00:56:24.000 It's fucking bad.

00:56:25.000 I asked the Uber.

00:56:26.000 But it doesn't last as long.

00:56:28.000 It does.

00:56:28.000 I said, is it always like this?

00:56:29.000 And they said, it's like this because of the construction right now.

00:56:32.000 Look at that.

00:56:32.000 In 2015, 3.17 million people just in Orange County.

00:56:37.000 And that does not include Mexicans.

00:56:40.000 Yeah.

00:56:41.000 It just does not.

00:56:42.000 They don't know.

00:56:43.000 They don't have a fucking clue.

00:56:44.000 And when I say Mexicans, I should say, people, we'll let you in.

00:56:48.000 You're here.

00:56:49.000 Alright?

00:56:49.000 Right.

00:56:49.000 That's what they should say.

00:56:51.000 Hey, you're here.

00:56:51.000 You get in.

00:56:52.000 But the point is, all these numbers are inflated.

00:56:56.000 How many more illegal aliens are here on top of that number?

00:56:59.000 I could live in Orange County.

00:57:00.000 If I'd have to work in LA, I'd live in Orange County.

00:57:02.000 What do you think?

00:57:03.000 I would live there.

00:57:04.000 All day.

00:57:04.000 I would live there all day.

00:57:05.000 I love Newport.

00:57:07.000 What do you think the numbers are?

00:57:08.000 I don't know.

00:57:08.000 How many illegal aliens do you think are in Orange County?

00:57:13.000 I wouldn't know.

00:57:13.000 3.17 million people.

00:57:16.000 How many people do you think are illegal aliens?

00:57:18.000 67 million.

00:57:22.000 I feel like it's one of those numbers.

00:57:24.000 If they're undocumented, they're undocumented.

00:57:27.000 How are you guessing?

00:57:28.000 It fluctuates, probably.

00:57:29.000 I don't want to compare them to the rat study.

00:57:32.000 It's a disrespectful thing.

00:57:33.000 I just mean in terms of a study.

00:57:35.000 If you're not actually monitoring, how the fuck do you know?

00:57:39.000 Do we know how many they think or they estimate sneak across every year?

00:57:42.000 Yes.

00:57:43.000 Good question.

00:57:43.000 I think they do.

00:57:44.000 Do we have any idea, Jamie?

00:57:45.000 Because then we could...

00:57:46.000 I have no fucking clue.

00:57:48.000 It is dark.

00:57:48.000 You imagine if you were living in some shit country and you realized that you could actually get a great job if you could just get across a river?

00:57:54.000 It's such a bummer, man.

00:57:56.000 It's so heartbreaking.

00:57:57.000 What a shit.

00:57:59.000 But meanwhile, there's some sweet spots down there.

00:58:02.000 Like, why don't we gentrify Mexico?

00:58:04.000 Yeah.

00:58:04.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:58:05.000 Well, Mexico City's getting there.

00:58:06.000 Yeah, Mexico City's economy's doing pretty well from what I hear.

00:58:10.000 Look at this.

00:58:11.000 You got Nicaragua, El Salvador, gangs.

00:58:14.000 This is in 2014, so triple it.

00:58:16.000 It's 2,350,000 just in Southern California.

00:58:21.000 Look at Delaware.

00:58:22.000 Oh, just in California.

00:58:24.000 But that's the entire state of California.

00:58:26.000 That's off by a factor of 10. Probably 2.3 million in Orange County.

00:58:31.000 Yeah, there's no way they know.

00:58:33.000 They don't know, man.

00:58:34.000 Well, they make up a lot of the economy, though.

00:58:37.000 They make up a lot of...

00:58:38.000 We're saying 11 million total?

00:58:40.000 Agricultural economy and everything else, man.

00:58:42.000 We need those.

00:58:43.000 Right now, they're entrenched.

00:58:45.000 It's heartbreaking when they have to pass the rivers and the body of water, and it's like kids and women, they die, and they take them with the tides.

00:58:51.000 It's heartbreaking.

00:58:54.000 And they've got to put together, you know, the average is $3,000.

00:58:58.000 $3,000 to them, they come from nothing, so they save all this money, it's per person.

00:59:02.000 So you've got kids, you've got the family, so you get together, they get robbed, they go, they get robbed of all their shit, some of it's fake, they don't know who to deal with.

00:59:10.000 Well, I'm sure you've seen videos of Syrian refugees washing up on shore.

00:59:15.000 Yeah, I can't handle it.

00:59:15.000 It's horrible, man.

00:59:18.000 It's such a tragedy.

00:59:20.000 It's so easy to look at them and they speak a different language, they follow a different religion.

00:59:25.000 It's so easy to not...

00:59:29.000 Syrians are so cosmopolitan.

00:59:34.000 Syrians are so cosmopolitan too.

00:59:36.000 Syrians were not religious.

00:59:38.000 Syrians were entrepreneurs.

00:59:40.000 Damascus was a huge city.

00:59:42.000 It was a beautiful place.

00:59:44.000 Very, very cosmopolitan.

00:59:45.000 Basically European in a lot of ways.

00:59:46.000 But not to let them in because we're scared that the terrorist stuff like that, that's like not letting talent in because the mafia.

00:59:52.000 It's such a small fucking percentage.

00:59:55.000 It's not necessarily, but You know what I'm saying, though.

00:59:57.000 To assume that all Mexicans are in the cartel or all Italians are in the mafia, it's fucking insane.

01:00:04.000 It's a similar thing.

01:00:05.000 But especially, like, the difference between Syrians and Mexicans is Mexicans, a lot of people would accept them easier because they practice the same religion.

01:00:17.000 Like, if you found a guy who was a Mexican businessman in Mexico City and he speaks English and Spanish and his children are well-educated and he wanted to move next door to you.

01:00:25.000 He's Catholic.

01:00:26.000 We're more familiar with it.

01:00:27.000 In Santa Monica, you'd be pumped.

01:00:28.000 He's a good guy.

01:00:29.000 He came over from Mexico.

01:00:31.000 Super nice guy.

01:00:32.000 He makes his own wine.

01:00:33.000 You know what I mean?

01:00:34.000 But if a guy does a different...

01:00:36.000 It's also Mexican food.

01:00:37.000 It's part of the American fabric.

01:00:38.000 100%.

01:00:39.000 You know what I mean?

01:00:39.000 So we're not as threatened.

01:00:41.000 They're our neighbors.

01:00:41.000 There's a history.

01:00:43.000 What are you threatening?

01:00:44.000 Well, people are threatened by Muslims.

01:00:47.000 They're threatened by radical Islamic terrorists.

01:00:50.000 They're threatened by the idea of people trying to be like some Manchurian candidate and get into office.

01:00:56.000 A lot of these school shooters, the mass shooters, a lot of them are white, too, man.

01:01:00.000 We're scared of that.

01:01:01.000 Most of them are white.

01:01:02.000 Yeah, it's fucking crazy.

01:01:03.000 Well, do you remember when people were absolutely convinced that Obama was somehow some sort of a Mexican plant, or excuse me, an Islamic plant?

01:01:10.000 Yeah.

01:01:11.000 And that he was a Manchurian candidate.

01:01:13.000 Didn't Trump start that?

01:01:14.000 Trump said he was from Kenya.

01:01:16.000 Trump was a birther.

01:01:18.000 People forgot about that.

01:01:19.000 He had to show his birth.

01:01:23.000 He might have actually believed that.

01:01:26.000 But it also might have been that Trump liked fucking with Obama because Obama liked fucking with Trump.

01:01:31.000 And that's one of the things like at that press corps dinner where he got up and said, here's one thing that I am that you'll never be as president of the United States.

01:01:38.000 And he got this giant laugh.

01:01:39.000 And Seth Meyers roasted him too.

01:01:41.000 Yeah.

01:01:41.000 And then he was like, what?

01:01:43.000 He's like, oh, really?

01:01:44.000 Oh, that's cute.

01:01:45.000 That's cute.

01:01:45.000 Guess what?

01:01:46.000 Guess what, bitch?

01:01:47.000 Now I'm the fucking president.

01:01:48.000 So when he said something about Obama, it more than likely was because of a personal feud.

01:01:56.000 And less likely that he actually thought Obama was from Kenya.

01:01:59.000 He was probably fucking with him back.

01:02:01.000 I agree 100%.

01:02:02.000 Yeah, because he's a powerful guy, and if they treat him like he's not a powerful guy, it's like, oh, really?

01:02:06.000 He has resources, too.

01:02:07.000 So he's like, what?

01:02:08.000 This is my problem with anti-Trump, like, when people go too far with it.

01:02:15.000 It's not that he's not doing terrible things.

01:02:17.000 It's not that he's not—like, just the idea that he lies all the time.

01:02:20.000 You have to check him on his lies.

01:02:21.000 You have to figure out what's the truth.

01:02:22.000 It's very dangerous.

01:02:23.000 It's God, man.

01:02:24.000 Separating the immigrants.

01:02:25.000 My issue has nothing to do with that.

01:02:27.000 My issue has to do with it's a terrible way to interact with someone whose ideas you don't like.

01:02:33.000 Because it just makes the people that support him more aggressive.

01:02:36.000 Everybody gets more aggressive.

01:02:37.000 You get more aggressive at them and you're like, this is what we're gonna do.

01:02:40.000 We're gonna shout them down.

01:02:42.000 We're gonna stop them all from speaking.

01:02:44.000 We're gonna show up at their restaurants and yell at them.

01:02:48.000 You're just creating more conflict.

01:02:50.000 This is not helping because they're going to bolster their resources, build up their defenses.

01:02:56.000 No, you're not.

01:02:57.000 You're scaring people and you're going to make people arm themselves and you're going to make people escalate their rhetoric and it's going to escalate on both sides and it's also evidence that you're unhinged.

01:03:06.000 So they can point to the fact that they're right, because you're harassing them in the parking lot of a restaurant, and you won't let them get to their car without you yelling at them.

01:03:13.000 They're now saying you're unhinged, and there's evidence to prove that they've got a point.

01:03:17.000 You're like, no, no, no, no, no.

01:03:18.000 This is a never-Trump movement.

01:03:19.000 We're a part of the movement, and we got together.

01:03:21.000 You're harassing a person, and you're making them angry, and they're going to harass liberals now, and now we have this giant conflict, instead of just communicating about important issues, instead of just trying to figure out how we all get along.

01:03:33.000 How to solve problems?

01:03:36.000 Digging your heels into one team or the other, you've got to try to solve problems.

01:03:39.000 It's way easier.

01:03:41.000 Persuasion is the hardest thing.

01:03:43.000 Punishment, destruction is way easier.

01:03:45.000 Here's the thing.

01:03:45.000 If they get him out of office, here's the thing.

01:03:47.000 If they do succeed in getting him out of office, they'll be even more emboldened.

01:03:51.000 My point is, they'll be even more emboldened that this is the correct way to behave.

01:03:55.000 I don't think it necessarily is.

01:03:57.000 I think all of the things that are coming out, whether it's I don't understand the Russian stuff.

01:04:04.000 I've tried to go over it.

01:04:05.000 I feel like if there was clear enough evidence that he had committed a crime, they would have already done something.

01:04:12.000 He'd be out.

01:04:13.000 There's too much resource and time going into that.

01:04:15.000 But there's many indictments.

01:04:16.000 So there's other people around him that have done something that was illegal.

01:04:20.000 This seems to be very clear, right?

01:04:22.000 Or at least have been accused.

01:04:24.000 So where it goes, let that play out.

01:04:27.000 But that is a very different thing than all of the hatred and the fucking going after people.

01:04:34.000 You have to figure out where the line gets drawn, where you're causing internal conflict that can literally lead to civil war.

01:04:42.000 But it's trickled down into our economy, everyone's lives now, like on Twitter or entertainment or with the Me Too movement.

01:04:51.000 It's a trickle-down effect.

01:04:52.000 Well, you know, George Washington said one of the most important qualities for a society to have is civility.

01:04:59.000 And what does civility mean?

01:05:00.000 The Founding Fathers did not agree on a lot of stuff.

01:05:03.000 I mean Madison didn't agree with Hamilton and Jefferson.

01:05:08.000 They were very much at odds about how to go forward with this republic.

01:05:12.000 But they talked it out.

01:05:13.000 They compromised.

01:05:15.000 Nobody got violent besides Aaron Burr and fucking Hamilton.

01:05:19.000 For the most part, they compromised.

01:05:21.000 They talked.

01:05:22.000 And George Washington said, civility, the ability to listen to the other side, even when you don't agree with them, and put your ideas together, that's how you move things forward.

01:05:31.000 We just don't have that anymore.

01:05:33.000 We just don't have it.

01:05:34.000 I think that's a really good point, and that's what bothers me the most about this, is not that they're not correct, that there's some real problems.

01:05:40.000 It's the way everybody's going about it that makes me say, like, do you understand what happens when you yell at people?

01:05:46.000 Like, you can't just push people.

01:05:47.000 There's people that don't understand violent consequences.

01:05:51.000 There's people that don't understand conflict, and they don't know how to mitigate it, and they don't know how to, like, be calm and how to figure their way through a situation.

01:05:58.000 There's dangerous levels of aggression that get reached.

01:06:02.000 When you have, like...

01:06:04.000 Antifa feuding with these people that are trying to do some sort of a speech somewhere and there's the supporters of the speech and then there's Antifa and everybody's getting together and screaming and there's fire and bike locks and people beating the shit out of each other.

01:06:18.000 There's plenty of videos of this happening.

01:06:20.000 This doesn't have to end here, okay?

01:06:22.000 This wasn't here five years ago.

01:06:25.000 Understand this.

01:06:25.000 That this could escalate in five years to be significantly worse than it is now.

01:06:30.000 And me as a person who...

01:06:32.000 I don't want violence around me.

01:06:35.000 I see that shit coming and I go, oh, these guys are fighting.

01:06:38.000 Let's get the fuck out of here.

01:06:40.000 You don't want to go get close to them and hope you catch a stray bullet.

01:06:43.000 The problem is that conflict comes to you.

01:06:52.000 It's unnecessary.

01:06:54.000 It's not how we should communicate with each other.

01:06:56.000 You know, and I think there's also people that are emboldened by movements, right?

01:07:00.000 They become a part of a movement, and then they want to do something to commit to that movement.

01:07:04.000 It's very similar to joining a fucking militia.

01:07:07.000 It's very similar to joining a resistance movement.

01:07:09.000 Social media makes it easier, too.

01:07:10.000 Social media has made it easier to find your tribe, surround yourself with people who see the world exactly like you do, and organize and attack the other side.

01:07:17.000 You know, they say with social media, that's what makes ISIS kind of so violent and also so scary, is because social media, the first ones kind of mastered social media.

01:07:26.000 Yeah.

01:07:27.000 My bigger worry is also the fact that people can't even agree on the validity of their sources.

01:07:33.000 So if I say, well, you know, according to the United Nations or the Bureau of Labor and Statistics, and you go, that's bullshit.

01:07:42.000 So now I can't even get off the ground.

01:07:43.000 Because there's too much info.

01:07:45.000 Right.

01:07:45.000 So if I go through mainstream sources, you go, that's mainstream and that's bullshit and they're bought off by corporations.

01:07:51.000 They have an agenda.

01:07:52.000 I can't even have an argument now.

01:07:53.000 Well, here's something that I'm trying to get better at, and I've worked on it a lot.

01:07:57.000 I try really hard to not be connected to whatever I believe in.

01:08:03.000 And I try to not try to win a conversation.

01:08:06.000 Those are two very important things.

01:08:08.000 You mean open-minded, Joe?

01:08:09.000 Yes, but I'm trying harder than I've ever tried in my life and I've been on a path trying to do this for years now and getting better at it because of just listening to podcasts and having podcasts and having conflicts with people and trying to figure out why I had those conflicts and how much of it was my fault, how much of it could have prevented, how much of I could have done a better job as a host or as a person who's trying to relay the information and through time I have tried my hardest, and it's something I concentrate on all the time, to not be connected to my ideas.

01:08:38.000 To argue them if I feel like there's merit, but argue the merit, not argue my connection.

01:08:42.000 Your emotional connection.

01:08:44.000 So when someone does that, I get exhausted now.

01:08:48.000 Because I know where it's going.

01:08:49.000 I'm like, we're going to waste a lot of time with this because you're not willing to even think about the possibility.

01:08:54.000 Well, I said the last podcast with Jordan Peterson, I said, do you feel like you're winning this debate?

01:08:59.000 Because at this point he'd become so famous and he said, I don't want to win this because I'm going to create resentful people who feel like resentful losers.

01:09:08.000 That's not the point.

01:09:10.000 The point is to figure out a way to present ideas so that they are accessible to the people whose minds I'm trying to change.

01:09:18.000 This is exactly what he said about Trump supporters.

01:09:20.000 He said, if you disagree with Trump supporters, don't insult them.

01:09:23.000 Don't make them feel like they're losers.

01:09:25.000 That doesn't make anybody feel good.

01:09:28.000 It's also not true!

01:09:29.000 He also said, how do you think they're going to react to that?

01:09:32.000 Do you think they're just going to give in to you?

01:09:33.000 And he's a clinical psychologist, so he understands how human brains work.

01:09:38.000 We do that immediately.

01:09:39.000 What do we say about Trump supporters?

01:09:40.000 A lot of people.

01:09:41.000 They go, they're racists, they're sexist, they're Mexican haters and all this stuff.

01:09:48.000 Whereas maybe the left presented an alternative that was unacceptable to them.

01:09:52.000 They didn't like this con man or this guy was an egotist, but they were like, let's give it a shot.

01:09:57.000 I have 300 bucks in the bank.

01:09:58.000 I got no other options.

01:10:00.000 There's also that.

01:10:01.000 Give people the benefit of the doubt.

01:10:03.000 Most people are not assholes.

01:10:04.000 Yeah, unquestionably.

01:10:06.000 There's both of those things.

01:10:07.000 And there's some people that are assholes.

01:10:09.000 That's part of the problem, is that you run into enough of those, those hurt your feelings, and you think, oh, all Trump supporters are assholes.

01:10:15.000 They're the minority, though, right?

01:10:16.000 But that's negativity bias online.

01:10:18.000 I feel like it's all humans.

01:10:19.000 Negativity bias, too, is also something where our brains...

01:10:22.000 We gravitate towards that.

01:10:23.000 If I get caught on the left hook, yeah, I'm not going to...

01:10:26.000 Let's say on Instagram, if you have 1,000 comments and 900 of them are positive, you'll see the one negative.

01:10:32.000 No, if you have 900 and you have 100 that are negative, you're fucked.

01:10:37.000 Super fucked.

01:10:37.000 You're going to read 100 negative comments.

01:10:39.000 You know what I'm saying.

01:10:40.000 You'll have a million positive.

01:10:41.000 That's why I don't read any comments.

01:10:42.000 But think about how amazing that is, that you have 90% positive.

01:10:46.000 In this crazy world...

01:10:47.000 Oh, I know.

01:10:47.000 Everything's all good.

01:10:49.000 Right.

01:10:49.000 But your mind goes towards the negative.

01:10:52.000 Yeah, but what I'm saying is that the numbers, as they expand, they get more and more ridiculous.

01:10:56.000 So if you have a podcast, and the podcast gets a million downloads, and you get 100,000 negative comments and 900,000 positive ones, like, oh, this is exhausting.

01:11:07.000 Have you looked at how many people alcohol kills versus guns, for example?

01:11:12.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:11:13.000 But nobody's talking about banning alcohol.

01:11:16.000 You could really go into all these details, right?

01:11:18.000 Shortened lives because of obesity.

01:11:21.000 Shortened lives because of poor diet.

01:11:23.000 Kills way more people than terrorism.

01:11:24.000 It kills a lot of fucking people.

01:11:26.000 And then there's also shit that happens.

01:11:28.000 We were talking about this recently about Chicago, the violence in Chicago.

01:11:32.000 The numbers are so crazy and no one seems to be flinching.

01:11:36.000 If those numbers were in...

01:11:39.000 Beverly Hills.

01:11:40.000 If Beverly Hills, not the South Side of Chicago, if Beverly Hills had a thousand people kill their shot in a year, we'd be like, what in the fuck are you talking about?

01:11:48.000 I think it's because we accept it.

01:11:49.000 We're like, ah, that's Chicago.

01:11:50.000 It's fucking crazy.

01:11:51.000 Well, it's over there.

01:11:51.000 And then it becomes accustomed to us.

01:11:52.000 Even in Chicago.

01:11:54.000 If a girl accuses Charlie Sheen of spitting on her and doing coke off her asshole, you're like, yeah.

01:12:00.000 That's what he does.

01:12:00.000 Of course.

01:12:01.000 That's what he does.

01:12:03.000 So if you hear, oh, there's violence in Chicago, like, yep, that's what they do.

01:12:06.000 I keep hearing about that.

01:12:07.000 West side?

01:12:07.000 Yeah.

01:12:08.000 South side?

01:12:08.000 We just, like, we like the map to be discernible.

01:12:11.000 Oh, okay, I know what this is.

01:12:12.000 Right.

01:12:13.000 I know what that is.

01:12:14.000 Right.

01:12:14.000 We've got to keep it static.

01:12:15.000 Especially, like, though, if it's something horrific.

01:12:17.000 Like, if there's a serial killer.

01:12:19.000 We freak the fuck out.

01:12:20.000 Holy fuck, everybody's like, I'm locking my doors!

01:12:22.000 That's scary shit.

01:12:23.000 I'm that way.

01:12:23.000 You know the chances of a serial killer getting to you?

01:12:26.000 But there are also things that scare the fuck.

01:12:27.000 I will not go into the ocean and swim where I can't touch the ground.

01:12:35.000 Just don't do that.

01:12:37.000 And it's stupid.

01:12:37.000 It's ridiculous.

01:12:38.000 Smart move.

01:12:39.000 Fuck that place.

01:12:40.000 Especially the Pacific with great whites.

01:12:42.000 Malibu?

01:12:42.000 A fat dick.

01:12:43.000 Overrun.

01:12:44.000 Overrun with great whites.

01:12:45.000 Correct, sir.

01:12:46.000 San Francisco is a fucking breeding ground.

01:12:48.000 Right outside of San Francisco.

01:12:49.000 This guy in Marina Del Rey.

01:12:52.000 He's swimming...

01:12:53.000 And he's got his hands, like, tucked to the side.

01:12:56.000 Oh, like a seal.

01:12:56.000 And he's going like this.

01:12:57.000 He's diving in.

01:12:59.000 I'm like, bro, you are sealing out.

01:13:01.000 You look like a giant, smooth, delicious seal right now.

01:13:05.000 Is that what you're saying?

01:13:06.000 I mean, if there's one badass way to go, that's pretty sick.

01:13:09.000 I'm making CNN for sure.

01:13:11.000 There's a guy in Brazil who got his dick bitten off.

01:13:13.000 No.

01:13:14.000 Yep, right through the crotch.

01:13:16.000 The crotch, the dick, the balls, asshole.

01:13:19.000 Died, bled out on the beach.

01:13:21.000 He bled out after the shark bit his dick off.

01:13:23.000 I'll take that.

01:13:25.000 Eat me in half.

01:13:26.000 Yeah.

01:13:27.000 I got to pee.

01:13:27.000 I did a podcast right before.

01:13:28.000 You got to pee?

01:13:29.000 Jeff Garland.

01:13:30.000 I'm so sorry.

01:13:31.000 This bitch just skimmed the fighter and the kid.

01:13:33.000 When it comes back, we're going to talk about actual fights.

01:13:36.000 Oh, right.

01:13:37.000 There's a lot.

01:13:38.000 Hold, please.

01:13:39.000 Holding, please.

01:13:40.000 You got to pee, too, but I'm going to leave you by yourself.

01:13:42.000 I'll go after you guys.

01:13:45.000 I'll just talk about the Constitution.

01:13:46.000 Guys, if I could have a minute of your time.

01:13:50.000 You know, the history of the Ottoman Empire is very interesting, actually.

01:13:53.000 We have to go all the way back, though.

01:13:54.000 Can you imagine if you just started fucking reading out of a book?

01:13:58.000 Why don't you plug your dates?

01:14:01.000 Plug my dates?

01:14:02.000 Is there anything worse when someone does that?

01:14:03.000 Now that Joe's gone, hey, first week of August.

01:14:08.000 You will be there, right?

01:14:13.000 Now that you're taking a break from the road, you should come.

01:14:15.000 I mean, surprise some people, maybe.

01:14:16.000 Pick a city.

01:14:17.000 I'd do that.

01:14:18.000 Come out and just open for you.

01:14:19.000 What about Vancouver?

01:14:20.000 One night.

01:14:21.000 When is that?

01:14:21.000 September 13th.

01:14:23.000 If I'm not shooting my two TV shows.

01:14:26.000 But I thought you were shooting in October.

01:14:28.000 I don't know.

01:14:28.000 I'm so talented, I forget.

01:14:29.000 I'm shooting some of the Goldbergs, I think, August, September.

01:14:33.000 Is this the last season of Goldbergs?

01:14:34.000 I believe so.

01:14:35.000 And then I think we start shooting.

01:14:37.000 I shoot one episode of School, then August, then the rest in October.

01:14:41.000 Why just one?

01:14:42.000 Like a pilot?

01:14:43.000 I don't know, yeah.

01:14:45.000 The way they do the schedule is weird.

01:14:46.000 They want to figure it out?

01:14:47.000 Yeah.

01:14:48.000 Yeah, writing and stuff.

01:14:50.000 And then when do you think you go back on the road for stand-up?

01:14:53.000 I'll get restless.

01:14:54.000 I know it'll happen.

01:14:55.000 Right now, I haven't thought about it.

01:14:57.000 That's the thing.

01:14:58.000 I'll go on whatever.

01:14:59.000 I'll be gone for every weekend of the month.

01:15:01.000 I'm like, I need a break.

01:15:03.000 And I get one weekend off.

01:15:04.000 I'm like, let me get back on the road.

01:15:06.000 Yeah.

01:15:06.000 I know.

01:15:07.000 You miss it.

01:15:07.000 It's beautiful.

01:15:08.000 You miss it.

01:15:08.000 There's nothing like it.

01:15:10.000 Sometimes.

01:15:10.000 Sometimes it's beautiful.

01:15:12.000 Sometimes it can be.

01:15:13.000 You can be in a city and it's terrible.

01:15:15.000 But I just stand up.

01:15:16.000 Sometimes it can be a little rough.

01:15:17.000 Yeah.

01:15:18.000 I was talking to Callan.

01:15:19.000 Well, you're going to be doing the same thing because Callan shot his special, right?

01:15:22.000 So now he's going to take a break from the road to shooting a show.

01:15:24.000 Yeah.

01:15:24.000 And I was saying there's sometimes like a month going this month coming up.

01:15:28.000 I'm on the road every weekend.

01:15:29.000 That's rough.

01:15:30.000 It's rough.

01:15:31.000 And then I'm like, God, I need a break.

01:15:32.000 And then I get a break.

01:15:33.000 I have like a week or two off.

01:15:34.000 I'm like, I need to get back on the road.

01:15:36.000 It's weird.

01:15:37.000 You miss it.

01:15:37.000 This is my first break in 12 years.

01:15:39.000 Yeah, but two weeks.

01:15:40.000 But when you were, let's say, at my level in comedy, you were grinding.

01:15:44.000 Constantly.

01:15:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:46.000 You gotta do what you gotta do in the moment, you know?

01:15:49.000 You're on that stage where you're just trying to get those reps in, too.

01:15:52.000 But I'm just saying, like, you missed the...

01:15:54.000 I'm like, God, I need a fucking break.

01:15:56.000 This road, man.

01:15:57.000 Hotels and restaurants.

01:15:57.000 I need a fucking break.

01:15:58.000 And I get back, and I'm like, I need to get back out.

01:16:00.000 It's like this weird love-hate relationship.

01:16:02.000 I did it for 12 years.

01:16:03.000 This is the first time I've had a break, and I haven't thought about it at all.

01:16:05.000 But it'll hit me, and I'll start to freak.

01:16:07.000 Yeah, you get tired.

01:16:08.000 You get tired of waking up in hotel rooms.

01:16:10.000 Tired of flying.

01:16:11.000 It's lonely.

01:16:12.000 It's sad.

01:16:12.000 It's hard on your body, actually.

01:16:13.000 I hate being out of my routine.

01:16:15.000 Yeah.

01:16:15.000 That's what I hate most.

01:16:16.000 Right, your home routine.

01:16:17.000 I hate it.

01:16:18.000 Yeah, I don't like that either.

01:16:19.000 But there's no alternative.

01:16:20.000 If you want to do big shows, you want to go on the road, you want to...

01:16:23.000 Oh, I'll never stop.

01:16:24.000 Yeah, no, I'll never stop.

01:16:24.000 You also, I don't think there's an alternative in terms of creating material.

01:16:28.000 I think you need a bunch of different kinds.

01:16:30.000 You need Philly.

01:16:31.000 You need Boston.

01:16:31.000 You need Florida.

01:16:33.000 You need Miami, too.

01:16:34.000 Occasionally, you need to be like, oh, there's some people that just don't pay attention to anything.

01:16:37.000 Yeah.

01:16:37.000 And the time alone sometimes.

01:16:40.000 You've got to fill that day, but I fucking love it because I'm just thinking and stuff.

01:16:45.000 Dude, you ever pull a fucking calf muscle?

01:16:47.000 It's the most annoying muscle to pull because it doesn't heal because you're always on it.

01:16:51.000 Takes a while.

01:16:53.000 When did you do that?

01:16:54.000 Kicking elephants?

01:16:55.000 No, no.

01:16:56.000 About two months ago, I heard it, and it's never gotten better.

01:17:00.000 From running?

01:17:00.000 Yeah.

01:17:01.000 But I can still run.

01:17:03.000 I'll be right back.

01:17:04.000 It's weird.

01:17:04.000 You can still run?

01:17:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:17:06.000 I can still run.

01:17:07.000 But it's just, I feel it.

01:17:09.000 I think it's interesting that...

01:17:12.000 And I wonder what the science is behind it, that I have a recurring injury, right?

01:17:16.000 So I'll pull my lower back on my right side, or I'll pull my neck.

01:17:19.000 There's a neck muscle from wrestling probably from years ago.

01:17:23.000 Sometimes I'll do something, whether it's play tennis or box or whatever, and I'm like, ah, fuck, I'm done for a week.

01:17:30.000 But it's always the same side.

01:17:31.000 Yeah, I'm done for a week.

01:17:33.000 Is that scar tissue?

01:17:35.000 I bet it's a mobility thing.

01:17:36.000 I bet that's one of the things.

01:17:38.000 And I bet you probably at some point in time had a bulging disc, and it's probably still a little fucked up, and you never got an MRI on it, so you don't really know, right?

01:17:45.000 That's interesting.

01:17:46.000 And I think that's one of the areas that a lot of people don't strengthen, is their spine.

01:17:51.000 I've spent...

01:17:53.000 A lot of time over the last few years using a bunch of different exercises and machines just specifically to strengthen my spine and my core after having some bulging back issues.

01:18:04.000 Well, I've been doing that.

01:18:04.000 I cured my lower back because of Lauren Landau and my buddy Leo who helped me kind of because my lower back hurt for 20 years.

01:18:11.000 And they give me just some exercise that I do every day.

01:18:14.000 And they're mostly strengthening exercise.

01:18:16.000 They're not stretching.

01:18:17.000 They're strengthening exercise.

01:18:18.000 Your glutes and stuff, I got no problems with my lower back.

01:18:21.000 I mean, I cured my lower back, which is kind of a miracle to consider that I did it later on in my life.

01:18:26.000 But my neck is, you know, and I do neck exercises now.

01:18:29.000 You gotta try this iron neck thing that I have out here.

01:18:31.000 I will.

01:18:32.000 It's the fucking best.

01:18:33.000 Really?

01:18:33.000 Yeah, you put a halo on your head, you screw it on, you like pull it on, and then you pump it, like a Reebok pump, and it like fits tight to your head, and then you got a bungee cord that's attached to it that's 50 pounds, and you back up with this thing, and then you do rotations, like...

01:18:47.000 Really?

01:18:47.000 Really good?

01:18:48.000 Phenomenal.

01:18:49.000 But the most important thing is that it's not dangerous.

01:18:52.000 It's strengthening your neck in a way where you're giving it a full range of motion.

01:18:57.000 I want to buy one.

01:18:58.000 But look, necks don't get worked out that much.

01:19:00.000 Your lower back doesn't get worked out that much.

01:19:01.000 You've got to think like all the other things are getting all these loads.

01:19:04.000 So when you put a load on the lower back and it's not strong enough, that's when things go out.

01:19:09.000 If you strengthen it, you can prevent a lot of that stuff from happening.

01:19:13.000 Yoga is great for that.

01:19:14.000 Yoga is great for the back.

01:19:15.000 Great for the spine.

01:19:17.000 It's like one of those things you realize when you're doing it.

01:19:19.000 Like, oh, these are muscles that I hardly ever work.

01:19:21.000 Like when you do triangle pose.

01:19:22.000 Hardly ever work that.

01:19:23.000 That's all of my jeans.

01:19:25.000 Like the splash, bro.

01:19:26.000 Don't worry about it, bro.

01:19:27.000 It's just piss.

01:19:28.000 It's a cute outfit on here.

01:19:29.000 It's just pee-pee, baby.

01:19:30.000 It's kind of a very colorful outfit.

01:19:31.000 Yeah, you're very hippie today.

01:19:32.000 Tie-dye, bro.

01:19:33.000 It's very left wing.

01:19:35.000 It's back.

01:19:37.000 I didn't know.

01:19:38.000 I'm sure you got some tie-dye shit.

01:19:40.000 No, I do have a tie-dye.

01:19:41.000 I got a Sean O'Malley shirt.

01:19:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:19:44.000 That tie-dye Reebok one.

01:19:46.000 I've won that one.

01:19:47.000 That was dope.

01:19:48.000 Sugar Sean in the house, baby!

01:19:50.000 Dude, how about frickin' Nick Newell lost to get into the contenders?

01:19:54.000 I read that.

01:19:55.000 I did not have a chance to watch the fight.

01:19:56.000 I didn't see it either.

01:19:57.000 I don't watch the contenders series, but I saw that he lost, which is a bummer.

01:20:01.000 I'm rooting for that guy.

01:20:02.000 I hope they give him a fucking chance.

01:20:03.000 It's interesting that was the big story, was that he lost, not that the other guy won.

01:20:06.000 Like, I kept reading that he lost.

01:20:08.000 I didn't read that the other guy won.

01:20:10.000 I don't even know who the other guy is.

01:20:11.000 Me neither, but I heard he's a badass.

01:20:12.000 But how crazy is that?

01:20:14.000 Is it crazy?

01:20:15.000 But it's like you beat the guy with one arm.

01:20:16.000 But let's give the guy's name.

01:20:19.000 My thought was, how much bigger can you be with the rest of your body?

01:20:25.000 How many pounds is the arm?

01:20:26.000 It's just his forearm, though.

01:20:28.000 What did you say, Jamie?

01:20:29.000 Alex Munoz.

01:20:30.000 Alex Munoz.

01:20:30.000 Shout out to Alex Munoz.

01:20:31.000 He's a little razor blade, man.

01:20:32.000 I heard it was a tough fight.

01:20:33.000 But Nick Newell's a badass.

01:20:35.000 I think he belongs in the UFC. I don't think the contender stage is right for him.

01:20:39.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:20:40.000 A lot of the guys that are in the contender series, contender series is fucking excellent.

01:20:44.000 And a lot of guys that are in that series are going to wind up in the UFC anyway.

01:20:47.000 If you lose to one of them, it doesn't mean that you're not good.

01:20:49.000 It means there's a lot...

01:20:50.000 The talent level is very high right now.

01:20:52.000 I would say contender series is better than tough.

01:20:56.000 Way better.

01:20:56.000 Entertainment-wise, not even close.

01:20:57.000 Contender series kills it.

01:20:59.000 It's way better.

01:20:59.000 Talent-wise now...

01:21:00.000 Tough got tired.

01:21:01.000 Oh, Tough Got Tired 10 years ago.

01:21:03.000 The style of coaching and all the reality parts.

01:21:06.000 I can't believe they're doing it again, but I think they have to contractually with Kelvin and Whitaker, right?

01:21:11.000 Yeah, I mean, still the fights are worth watching.

01:21:13.000 It's still worth getting to.

01:21:14.000 I would disagree with that.

01:21:15.000 Some people like that reality TV. Some people still watch Big Brother, bro.

01:21:18.000 They love it.

01:21:19.000 I see people tweeting about Big Brother.

01:21:21.000 I'm like, what are you doing?

01:21:22.000 Yeah.

01:21:23.000 The ratings, I mean, very few people are watching Tough these days.

01:21:26.000 The ratings are so bad.

01:21:27.000 What are the ratings?

01:21:28.000 There's seven people that watch it.

01:21:30.000 Seven?

01:21:30.000 Seven, bro.

01:21:32.000 And they also buy fake kids.

01:21:33.000 How many of them are in hospitals?

01:21:36.000 They have to watch it.

01:21:38.000 No, I just think, you know, with the Contenders series, it's obviously making this push.

01:21:41.000 Like, that's where you're getting your new young talent.

01:21:44.000 Yeah, I think that's what I want to see.

01:21:46.000 Me too.

01:21:46.000 I don't want to see all the reality TV show stuff.

01:21:48.000 I don't need them, you know.

01:21:49.000 But the thing is, people that like reality shows like it.

01:21:53.000 Because it allows you to have the reality show part.

01:21:55.000 The ratings would beg to differ.

01:21:56.000 Because the contender series is kicking ass.

01:21:58.000 Tough is not.

01:22:00.000 I'm just saying, bro.

01:22:02.000 Yeah, that's a good point.

01:22:03.000 I think that there's some people that don't even know what's on the air anymore.

01:22:06.000 When the fuck do you hear about an ad for that show?

01:22:11.000 Even the UFC is like, we're good.

01:22:12.000 We're not putting any marketing in that.

01:22:14.000 We owe this last season.

01:22:15.000 Just put two fucking guys who will agree to do it.

01:22:19.000 But how much promotion do you see for Dana White's Contender Series?

01:22:22.000 That bet's all over.

01:22:24.000 Ratings are way better.

01:22:25.000 That's way better.

01:22:26.000 They're out.

01:22:27.000 It's what people want to see is fights.

01:22:29.000 They're going through a divorce with Fox, and they're like, alright, we're just going to live here until December, then we'll take our stuff, get the fuck out.

01:22:35.000 That's weird, right?

01:22:36.000 You can keep the dogs, and then we'll figure it out.

01:22:38.000 That's weird.

01:22:39.000 It's so weird.

01:22:41.000 And even Fox is posting stuff to the WWE because they're coming over.

01:22:44.000 That's so funny.

01:22:45.000 So they're flexing with their new side piece?

01:22:48.000 It's so funny.

01:22:50.000 How many carryover audience members are there from UFC to WWE? Who cross?

01:22:56.000 I don't know.

01:22:58.000 Fox doesn't give a fuck.

01:22:59.000 What they know for sure is you can control the narrative.

01:23:01.000 WWE on those Friday night or Wednesday night smackdowns, whatever the fuck they call it, bring in 3 million viewers every single night.

01:23:09.000 And it's going to be chaos.

01:23:11.000 And they can control the ratings.

01:23:13.000 They can control the superstars and control everyone's destiny.

01:23:15.000 They know that fan base brings that no matter what.

01:23:18.000 UFC is not that.

01:23:20.000 So if you're Fox, it's kind of smart.

01:23:22.000 Yeah, it is smart.

01:23:23.000 It works for both parties, Fox and ESPN. Look at it, if you're just trying to make money, it's the way to go.

01:23:28.000 Yeah, if you're Fox, that's why you care about ratings.

01:23:30.000 It's the way to go.

01:23:31.000 They're just trying to make money.

01:23:33.000 I think the thing about the Contender Series, though, is that it's a Fight Pass thing.

01:23:37.000 Right?

01:23:38.000 So it's all just good for the UFC. They own it, right?

01:23:42.000 Yeah.

01:23:42.000 But also, how many people are seeing that?

01:23:44.000 I don't know.

01:23:45.000 How many people watch it?

01:23:45.000 I think Fight Pass is 200,000 to 300,000 subscribers.

01:23:50.000 And Tuesday Night Contender Series is only on Fight Pass.

01:23:52.000 Is that correct?

01:23:53.000 Yeah.

01:23:53.000 Do they release it ever on YouTube?

01:23:55.000 That might not be a bad idea.

01:23:57.000 I think some highlights they blast out and stuff.

01:23:58.000 I don't know.

01:23:59.000 But, yeah, I don't know.

01:24:03.000 That whole world of up-and-coming talent has gotten so different.

01:24:07.000 The level's gotten significantly higher.

01:24:10.000 I see guys coming into the UFC for the first time, and I'm watching him fight, and I'm like, wow, this guy's fighting like he's been here for five years.

01:24:17.000 I say yes and no.

01:24:18.000 Some of it, I look at it, holy, how many fights do you have?

01:24:21.000 And they're like, he has eight.

01:24:21.000 I'm like, and he's that good?

01:24:23.000 Jesus.

01:24:23.000 And then sometimes, like you look at this Germany card, which lasted seven hours, which is a whole other topic we should discuss.

01:24:29.000 But I look at some, and the difference between, like, say, a Robert Whitaker versus Joe Romero versus some different cards where it's an opening main card fight...

01:24:41.000 The talent pool sometimes is so different.

01:24:44.000 Well, that just could be cards.

01:24:45.000 Sometimes you get a card in the talent pool, and that card is just not the highest level.

01:24:49.000 And then you get other cards where you don't even know who the fighters are.

01:24:53.000 And the talent's really high.

01:24:54.000 It's insanely high.

01:24:55.000 My point is, when you watch other main professional sports, you don't get that.

01:25:00.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:25:00.000 No, but you also don't get the volume.

01:25:02.000 Think about the volume of boxing matches versus the volume of UFC cards.

01:25:07.000 It's not even close.

01:25:09.000 The number of fights that people are paying attention to.

01:25:12.000 Every card has 11 to 13 fights.

01:25:15.000 And I think that's our problem.

01:25:17.000 Well, the problem is it's popular.

01:25:19.000 It's popular with people that want to do it.

01:25:21.000 These young badasses that want to prove they're the best.

01:25:23.000 There's a lot of them.

01:25:24.000 You're saying it's popular as far as contestants, people signing up.

01:25:27.000 People signing up for it.

01:25:28.000 Because what's not popular is people tuning into all these fights.

01:25:31.000 No.

01:25:32.000 That's the issue.

01:25:33.000 You have to make it special, right?

01:25:35.000 But do you?

01:25:36.000 Because here's the thing.

01:25:37.000 Even if you just have a small number that are tuning in every week, say if you have fights every week and 300,000 people watch, like, oh, this is a commercial disaster, you still are building 300,000 people, and it's going to be a different 300,000 people quite possibly next week, at least some of them are.

01:25:54.000 No way.

01:25:54.000 You're going to have different narratives.

01:25:56.000 You're going to have different fighters who shine, and then they're going to go off into pay-per-view events.

01:25:59.000 They're going to go off into big ESPN events.

01:26:02.000 They're going to become household names, and that's where the money's going to be made.

01:26:04.000 And so, our argument is, the more fights you have, even if some fights aren't doing well, you are still allowing a really high level of competition.

01:26:13.000 These fucking assassins merge through the top.

01:26:16.000 These Darren Tills, and these Yoel Romeros, and all these fucking killers come through.

01:26:23.000 Fucking Eraser versus Yoel Romero.

01:26:26.000 Amazing fight.

01:26:27.000 Oh my...

01:26:28.000 Who's Boracino?

01:26:29.000 Oh, he's a killer.

01:26:30.000 First team, all body.

01:26:32.000 First team, all body.

01:26:33.000 Both guys.

01:26:34.000 Crazy muscularity.

01:26:35.000 I'm not mad at either of them.

01:26:37.000 Double body...

01:26:37.000 I mean, extreme.

01:26:38.000 Superheroes.

01:26:39.000 But Joe, to your point, back to your point where you're saturation in the market and you're hoping that these superstars come out of there.

01:26:46.000 That's not working.

01:26:47.000 Well, here's the thing.

01:26:48.000 There's a cycle.

01:26:49.000 And I think there's a cycle the same where there's a cycle of predators and prey.

01:26:53.000 Do you know if they have like snowshoe hares and lynx?

01:26:56.000 There's a cycle where the snowshoe hares get to a very high number and the lynx eat them all.

01:27:01.000 And then the lynx get to a very high number and they run out of snowshoe hares.

01:27:05.000 And then the lynx drop down again.

01:27:06.000 And the snowshoe hares come back up.

01:27:08.000 This is a natural cycle.

01:27:11.000 And you're saying the cycle is going to be like a Conor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, or Brock Lesnar.

01:27:15.000 There's always someone.

01:27:16.000 They're going to come.

01:27:16.000 There's always someone.

01:27:17.000 There's always someone who rises to the top.

01:27:18.000 Who's the biggest draw right now in the UFC? Conor McGregor.

01:27:20.000 For sure.

01:27:21.000 There's not even a close second.

01:27:23.000 Besides him, George St. Pierre, if he wants to fight.

01:27:26.000 George St. Pierre, especially just winning.

01:27:28.000 It'd be Conor, Brock, George.

01:27:30.000 Those are your three cash guys.

01:27:31.000 Yeah.

01:27:31.000 Brock would not beat Conor at this stage of his life.

01:27:34.000 No, no.

01:27:34.000 I'm saying it as to this.

01:27:35.000 Those are one, two, three.

01:27:36.000 Right.

01:27:37.000 But if the UFC was around...

01:27:40.000 I mean, if we were at the stage where Brock was, say, before he beat Frank Mir...

01:27:45.000 When he was the heavyweight champion, when Brock was just smashing, he could sell What was like the highest pay-per-view with Brock in it?

01:27:55.000 I think it was like two million.

01:27:56.000 It's like the third highest.

01:27:56.000 Conor and Nate's first.

01:27:58.000 Yeah.

01:27:58.000 So it's in that level.

01:28:00.000 And the UFC wasn't as popular then, I don't think, as it is now.

01:28:03.000 But they did the WWE. He had the WWE fan base crossover.

01:28:06.000 But what's interesting, too, and a lot of people don't...

01:28:08.000 There's a reason why.

01:28:10.000 But the demand for Nate Diaz, too, because remember, he's part of the biggest pay-per-view of all time with Conor McGregor.

01:28:15.000 So Nate Diaz is in that tier, too.

01:28:18.000 You can go Conor, Brock, Ronda.

01:28:20.000 Nate's 4 or 5 in that.

01:28:22.000 See, it's number 2. UFC 100, Brock Lesnar vs.

01:28:25.000 Frank Mir.

01:28:26.000 1,600,000 buys.

01:28:28.000 That's a lot.

01:28:29.000 It's only 50,000 different than Nate Diaz vs.

01:28:32.000 Conor McGregor, which is number 1. That's pretty crazy.

01:28:35.000 Those numbers are crazy.

01:28:36.000 And then Conor McGregor, Nate Diaz.

01:28:38.000 Conor has one, two, three, four, five.

01:28:41.000 Misha Tayden.

01:28:42.000 That is amazing.

01:28:43.000 Well, that's UFC 200, so you had Brock Lesnar in that card.

01:28:48.000 So Brock has one, two, three out of the top seven.

01:28:53.000 Yeah, and Ron Derrick comes in at number eight.

01:28:55.000 They're in their own stratosphere, right?

01:28:58.000 So is Nate Diaz.

01:29:00.000 They don't toss him in there.

01:29:02.000 Nate's right there.

01:29:03.000 He has number one, number three.

01:29:03.000 Wow, look at that.

01:29:04.000 Amanda Nunez, Ronda Rousey got a million, million, one hundred thousand.

01:29:08.000 Nate Diaz, that's arguably because he was fighting Conor McGregor, right?

01:29:11.000 Well, and that's why Nate hasn't taken a fight because that trilogy is the biggest, one of the biggest that hasn't...

01:29:19.000 Yeah.

01:29:19.000 I mean, it is the biggest.

01:29:21.000 It's the biggest.

01:29:22.000 Here's the thing.

01:29:23.000 If Conor comes back and decides to fight Khabib, that's a fight where it's gonna be a gigantic, enormous, biggest pay-per-view of all time.

01:29:31.000 I think that's the biggest.

01:29:32.000 And if they decide to do it in Russia, it would be fucking insane.

01:29:35.000 And I'll be watching from here with you guys.

01:29:37.000 We're doing a campaign for that.

01:29:38.000 You're not going to Russia.

01:29:39.000 I'm not going to Russia.

01:29:40.000 And that'll be our biggest companion ever, by the way.

01:29:43.000 Dana's pulling me aside.

01:29:44.000 Dude, we're going to do some big things in Russia.

01:29:45.000 I'd really like you to come.

01:29:46.000 I'm like, good luck at that.

01:29:47.000 Come the fuck out of here, man.

01:29:49.000 I ain't going to Russia.

01:29:49.000 Cut to me.

01:29:51.000 Fur around my face.

01:29:53.000 Full Eskimos.

01:29:53.000 You'd probably love it in Russia.

01:29:55.000 It's probably amazing, man.

01:29:56.000 Yeah, the problem is that trip can suck.

01:29:59.000 It's a long, hard pass.

01:30:00.000 I'd rather be here with you guys.

01:30:01.000 I'd rather be here with you guys anyway.

01:30:03.000 It's more fun.

01:30:04.000 I really like being there live.

01:30:06.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:30:07.000 I love it.

01:30:07.000 I love the job, but I'm gonna be honest.

01:30:09.000 It's more fun watching the fights with you guys.

01:30:12.000 Yeah.

01:30:12.000 For sure.

01:30:13.000 Of course.

01:30:13.000 It's not even close.

01:30:14.000 With your friends.

01:30:14.000 It ain't even close.

01:30:15.000 Drinking good wine.

01:30:16.000 Yeah.

01:30:16.000 Having cheese and shit.

01:30:17.000 Kidney.

01:30:17.000 Pissing people off because you're chewing on the microphone.

01:30:19.000 Yeah.

01:30:20.000 That's true.

01:30:20.000 It's the most fun.

01:30:21.000 Until we get into Illuminati stuff.

01:30:23.000 If I can keep Eddie off the Illuminati.

01:30:25.000 You can take a sharp left.

01:30:25.000 I even enjoy that.

01:30:27.000 I miss Eddie.

01:30:28.000 But Eddie, now he doesn't drink.

01:30:29.000 Eddie doesn't drink.

01:30:30.000 He doesn't drink.

01:30:30.000 No, he doesn't drink anymore.

01:30:31.000 And he's way more reasonable.

01:30:33.000 Well, like with that kind of stuff.

01:30:34.000 He's not in Evolution.

01:30:35.000 I don't know if that's true.

01:30:38.000 I haven't really talked to him about that.

01:30:39.000 I'm just reading his Instagrams.

01:30:40.000 What other fight did they announce, the big fight?

01:30:42.000 Mike Perry Cerrone.

01:30:44.000 Ooh, Mike Perry Cerrone.

01:30:45.000 In Denver.

01:30:45.000 That's crazy.

01:30:46.000 That's a great fight.

01:30:46.000 That's a good fight.

01:30:48.000 That's a crazy fight.

01:30:48.000 Mike Perry looked freaking great.

01:30:50.000 Yeah, he's dangerous, man.

01:30:52.000 He hits fucking hard.

01:30:55.000 Plus, his last fight against Paul Felder, he mixed it up.

01:30:57.000 He started fighting smart.

01:30:59.000 That was a real camp.

01:30:59.000 He's in Jackson's now.

01:31:00.000 He looks damn good.

01:31:01.000 How interesting is that?

01:31:02.000 Jackson's Jackson's.

01:31:03.000 Jackson on Jackson crying with him in the cowboy.

01:31:05.000 He said he was essentially running his own camp, training himself before.

01:31:08.000 Yep.

01:31:09.000 And when you're watching him fight now, you're seeing...

01:31:11.000 What's the matter?

01:31:12.000 Woodley Till.

01:31:13.000 That's the other one I forgot.

01:31:14.000 But you're seeing him now in his last fight against Paul Felder.

01:31:18.000 He looked more polished.

01:31:20.000 He looked more professional in his approach.

01:31:23.000 Oh, completely different.

01:31:24.000 Still got all the marauder.

01:31:25.000 He's still a fucking killer.

01:31:27.000 Still super aggressive knockout artist.

01:31:29.000 Controlled.

01:31:31.000 Why did Paul go up to 70?

01:31:33.000 It was just for that fight.

01:31:34.000 It was just they gave him an option.

01:31:35.000 He's short enough.

01:31:36.000 He's so tough.

01:31:37.000 He would have done way better in that fight if he didn't break his arm in the first round.

01:31:39.000 He's so fucking tough.

01:31:40.000 But I saw it and I was like, dude, I don't like that one.

01:31:42.000 They're all tough right now.

01:31:42.000 When it bounced off his head, when it bounced off Perry's head, I was like, dude, that might be a broken arm.

01:31:47.000 There's a lot of people, like Paige Van Sanchez had a second surgery on her arm because of that.

01:31:53.000 She had more surgeries than that, sir.

01:31:55.000 Give it up.

01:31:57.000 That one's a different thing, bro.

01:31:58.000 I'm just kidding, bro.

01:31:59.000 Give it up.

01:32:00.000 I was like this.

01:32:01.000 I don't know if I should.

01:32:02.000 Do I do that?

01:32:03.000 I don't know what to do.

01:32:03.000 Talk about them Ted A's.

01:32:05.000 Ted A's.

01:32:06.000 The bone, it's not easy to hit something, especially a forehead.

01:32:11.000 Yeah.

01:32:11.000 This thing's kind of soft.

01:32:13.000 This shit snaps, man.

01:32:16.000 I'm really surprised we don't have more guys getting their forearms broken and blocking kicks.

01:32:21.000 Because there's some guys that just fucking hit you so hard to break your arm.

01:32:27.000 A little bit.

01:32:28.000 Felder is such a...

01:32:30.000 I think he's a high-level striker.

01:32:32.000 Oh, he's super high-level.

01:32:33.000 He's so fucking good, man.

01:32:34.000 But look, he is a smaller guy than Mike Perry.

01:32:37.000 Mike Perry's a way more scary one-strike artist.

01:32:39.000 Even though Felder's really scary at 55, you lose a little bit of that when you go up against the bigger guys.

01:32:44.000 Still stood his ground toe-to-toe with that guy.

01:32:47.000 Felder's highly skilled.

01:32:49.000 He's very smart and highly skilled.

01:32:51.000 We haven't seen that version of Perry, though.

01:32:56.000 And then we saw it's like, oh, fuck.

01:32:58.000 That version of Perry against one of his most technical opponents.

01:33:01.000 That Perry shows up against Cowboy?

01:33:04.000 Like, okay, here's the fight with the Alan Joban fight.

01:33:07.000 Alan Joban, who's fought a smart, technical fight, out-pointed Perry.

01:33:11.000 And the way he out-pointed Perry, he out-pointed Perry that was more obvious.

01:33:14.000 It was a different Perry.

01:33:16.000 Headhunting, just...

01:33:17.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:17.000 Just more obvious.

01:33:18.000 Very one-dimensional.

01:33:18.000 He was trying to just put those hands on him.

01:33:20.000 Yep.

01:33:21.000 But now you see a guy who's trying to do that, but with some Winklejohn strategy.

01:33:25.000 He's coaching.

01:33:25.000 And he's young.

01:33:26.000 He's only like 26, right?

01:33:27.000 He's going to be a problem.

01:33:28.000 He's got a lot of time.

01:33:29.000 He's dangerous.

01:33:30.000 How about Woodley Till, bro?

01:33:32.000 I am...

01:33:32.000 Fuck your intern belt, Colby.

01:33:36.000 I'm stunned.

01:33:36.000 That's the UFC talking about me.

01:33:37.000 But Colby just had to get a nose operation.

01:33:39.000 For sinuses.

01:33:40.000 But this is the thing.

01:33:41.000 Colby goes, and I spoke to someone very close to Colby.

01:33:43.000 Colby goes, dude, I'm down for the fight.

01:33:45.000 I just went five rounds.

01:33:47.000 Willie's been out for how long?

01:33:49.000 I can do it in October, November.

01:33:51.000 Just let me get ready.

01:33:52.000 I just have sinus surgery.

01:33:53.000 That's fair.

01:33:53.000 And they went, nope.

01:33:54.000 Stripping of the belt.

01:33:56.000 Till, you want it?

01:33:56.000 And Till's like, fuck yeah, I'll take it.

01:33:58.000 See, that seems to...

01:34:00.000 Be a problem for anybody that's considering taking an interim title fight in the future.

01:34:05.000 And that's what Brian Ortega saw that.

01:34:09.000 And he was like, listen, they're offering him before when his fight got canceled because Max Holloway has run into all those medical issues.

01:34:16.000 They offered him a fight for the interim belt.

01:34:19.000 I think it was against Jeremy Stevens' fight this weekend.

01:34:21.000 They offered Frank Yeager and Jeremy Stevens.

01:34:23.000 And so Frank Yeager was crazy.

01:34:25.000 That doesn't even make any sense.

01:34:26.000 No.

01:34:26.000 That's what Brian said.

01:34:27.000 And Jeremy Stevens is fucking dangerous.

01:34:31.000 Yes, he is.

01:34:32.000 Talk about a guy who puts you to sleep.

01:34:33.000 Fucking dangerous.

01:34:34.000 For anybody, he's dangerous.

01:34:35.000 Such a good fighter.

01:34:36.000 For anybody.

01:34:37.000 And he is guns blazing.

01:34:39.000 He's fighting Aldo this weekend, son.

01:34:40.000 I know.

01:34:41.000 That's a great fight.

01:34:43.000 At 55, right?

01:34:44.000 45. So they offered him Ortega a fight with Jeremy, because Jeremy's already cutting weight for this fight, or training for this fight, which is only a few weeks later.

01:34:57.000 And he says, well, this interim title doesn't mean anything.

01:34:59.000 I want the real belt.

01:35:00.000 Fighters don't take it serious.

01:35:02.000 Well, here's why they shouldn't now, right?

01:35:04.000 Well, this is a basic example.

01:35:05.000 Like, why would I fight for an interim belt?

01:35:07.000 You just strip Colby.

01:35:08.000 Now, this is us assuming that we know the whole story, right?

01:35:11.000 I don't know the whole story.

01:35:12.000 I haven't talked to Colby.

01:35:13.000 I haven't talked to Dana.

01:35:14.000 You don't talk to Colby?

01:35:16.000 I am not a fan of the idea of an interim title, unless there's extenuating circumstances.

01:35:23.000 Like someone's got a broken leg, they have to be out for six months or a year.

01:35:26.000 But it should be a year.

01:35:27.000 If they're out a year, you've got to do something.

01:35:29.000 So Woodley was out a year, correct?

01:35:30.000 So that's why it made RDA, it made sense.

01:35:33.000 And also, just to play, if I'm Dana, hey Woodley, we need you to fight, and you want these super fights, turn down fights, what can we do?

01:35:39.000 Let's force his hand, create this interim belt.

01:35:41.000 He's been out a year, which I like.

01:35:43.000 I wasn't talking about that.

01:35:44.000 I was talking about Brian Ortega.

01:35:46.000 Okay, gotcha.

01:35:47.000 I was talking about Brian Ortega because Max Holloway is defended fairly recently and he was getting ready to fight Khabib.

01:35:52.000 It's not like he's been out a while.

01:35:53.000 They offered him the Khabib fight.

01:35:54.000 He tried to cut weight for it and he might have fucked himself that way.

01:35:58.000 Is that what it was?

01:35:59.000 Yeah, it's entirely possible.

01:36:00.000 They're still trying to figure out what happened.

01:36:02.000 Well, one of the pieces of speculation is that his body started shutting down because he went through a real bad cut when he was trying to make the Khabib fight at 55 on super short notice.

01:36:12.000 It's a hard thing for him to make, 55. He's huge.

01:36:15.000 He's huge.

01:36:16.000 He's like 185. What?

01:36:18.000 Yeah, dude, Max is a big fella.

01:36:21.000 Ortega's fucking huge too.

01:36:23.000 Ortega goes up to 85. I couldn't believe it.

01:36:25.000 I stood next to him.

01:36:26.000 I was like, how big are you?

01:36:27.000 He's 45. Holloway's bigger.

01:36:29.000 And so this is the problem with these guys.

01:36:31.000 They need a lot of time to get down to this weight, right?

01:36:34.000 So Holloway trying to do that, this is pure speculation.

01:36:37.000 Holloway trying to do that, it was very hard for him.

01:36:41.000 His body broke down.

01:36:42.000 And then in cutting weight for this fight, once his body started the water load, his body knew what was going on and started shutting down.

01:36:48.000 This is speculation.

01:36:50.000 Pure speculation.

01:36:50.000 But here's my point.

01:36:51.000 You can't make, I mean, until you know that he's going to be out for a certain amount of time, it seems like an interim title belt is almost disrespectful.

01:36:59.000 Yes.

01:37:00.000 Like, he's the champ.

01:37:01.000 Makes zero sense.

01:37:01.000 But I think, I feel like it was a corporate decision.

01:37:03.000 Once you find out.

01:37:04.000 But I feel like it was a corporate decision where they went, okay, we have to fight.

01:37:08.000 We need to fill this gap.

01:37:09.000 We have to fight.

01:37:10.000 Willie has to fight somebody.

01:37:11.000 Of course.

01:37:12.000 So you're talking about something different, though.

01:37:14.000 Yeah, but I'm saying, I'm saying, they go, there's got to be a title fight.

01:37:17.000 How about you have this?

01:37:19.000 How about you give, that Colby retains his interim title because there's extenuating circumstances with him medically.

01:37:25.000 He had to get nasal surgery.

01:37:27.000 He's out until November.

01:37:29.000 Colby gets the next shot.

01:37:30.000 Whoever the fuck wins this fight, Colby fights next.

01:37:33.000 Don't strip him.

01:37:34.000 See, but you haven't talked to your boy Dana.

01:37:35.000 Maybe he's saying that.

01:37:36.000 They were saying you were stripped.

01:37:38.000 Listen, fuck your belt.

01:37:40.000 But you will get the next shot.

01:37:42.000 Whoever wins this, you get it.

01:37:43.000 We're taking your belt.

01:37:44.000 We have to do this.

01:37:45.000 Well, maybe it was Usman.

01:37:47.000 Usman wants to fight Till next.

01:37:49.000 And he's like, let's do this for the real number one contender spot.

01:37:51.000 Because Usman is a guy who has quietly been beating everybody they put in front of him.

01:37:56.000 He has, and I love him.

01:37:58.000 His last fight wasn't the most exciting.

01:38:00.000 But if you go through who Maia has fought, you look at the way Colby did it, you look prior to that, Usman would have the worst argument.

01:38:09.000 But he has the most potential, probably.

01:38:12.000 No one wants to fight.

01:38:13.000 But before the Damian Maia fight, I wouldn't agree with you.

01:38:16.000 Because both guys beat Damian Maia.

01:38:18.000 His fight before that was not good.

01:38:19.000 I'm saying they're decisions.

01:38:21.000 Right.

01:38:21.000 It's not like you...

01:38:22.000 He wasn't Darren Tillon people.

01:38:24.000 I meant before the Damien Maia fight with Colby.

01:38:26.000 Colby didn't have a lot of big names on his resume.

01:38:29.000 He had one dominant decision over Damien Maia.

01:38:32.000 So what do we got here?

01:38:33.000 He beat Damien Maia as well in his last fight.

01:38:36.000 Although, there was a thing about that fight that bothered me.

01:38:39.000 Two things.

01:38:39.000 One, the referee chose to separate Damien Maia from Usman when he had him from behind.

01:38:46.000 And he had the whizzer?

01:38:47.000 Yeah.

01:38:47.000 Dude, it was a fucking compromising position.

01:38:49.000 It was a dangerous position.

01:38:52.000 This is not Usman's fault.

01:38:54.000 This is just the referee's fault.

01:38:55.000 I severely disagreed and agreed with Matt Serra, who was talking about, the guy takes the fight on short notice.

01:39:02.000 He gets to a good position.

01:39:03.000 You're telling him to work.

01:39:04.000 You've got to be careful not to lose a position.

01:39:06.000 You're talking about a super high-level wrestler in Usman.

01:39:08.000 You can't just let No.

01:39:10.000 And for a world-class grappler like Damian Mai, he needs one nanosecond for Usman to make a wrong turn and it's game over.

01:39:17.000 You gotta let the crowd boo.

01:39:18.000 You can't get upset.

01:39:20.000 There's a situation that's happening where this guy has the best chance of winning and he's at the door.

01:39:26.000 He's at like step 8 out of 10. He's got the back.

01:39:29.000 He might go to 9, and then Usman might try to defend, and he might go to 10 and get the tap.

01:39:33.000 It's entirely possible this is happening right now.

01:39:35.000 I don't know how Usman gets down to 70, by the way.

01:39:37.000 He's a beast.

01:39:38.000 He's his biggest shot ever.

01:39:39.000 But even with this, Usman's so goddamn good, but you look at 170, where's the fireman?

01:39:45.000 Why does everyone have to fight for the title right away?

01:39:47.000 Let's not kill off all these young lions.

01:39:49.000 Well, I think one of the things is because they want that.

01:39:52.000 They need stars.

01:39:52.000 Yeah, they want that pay-per-view card to have a big headliner, and Woodley's ready.

01:39:57.000 Woodley can fight.

01:39:58.000 You can create that with trilogies, with great fights.

01:40:02.000 There seems to be a better strategy than to feed your young.

01:40:05.000 But that's if you didn't have a schedule that you had to fill.

01:40:08.000 See, boxing's different in that.

01:40:09.000 Boxing doesn't have a schedule they have to fill that way.

01:40:12.000 But who's making the schedule?

01:40:13.000 Why do they have to fill that schedule?

01:40:14.000 I don't know, man.

01:40:15.000 Well, they have 500 fighters on staff.

01:40:17.000 Well, they have to commit to a certain amount of fights, right?

01:40:20.000 With Fox and Pay-Per-View and fight nights.

01:40:21.000 Did you see that picture of Vitor standing with Dana in front of their fucking board of fighters and trying to figure out who fights who?

01:40:27.000 No.

01:40:27.000 I got a headache.

01:40:28.000 I almost blacked out just looking at the board.

01:40:30.000 It's a hard job.

01:40:31.000 Thinking about 500 fighters you're responsible for putting into fights and how many different people and Sean Shelby and Mick Maynard and they're running around and Joe Silva's in his underwear rolling around with his buddies and Joe Silva did it right.

01:40:43.000 He's like, I got out, bitch!

01:40:45.000 He goes, I'm doing karate in my basement!

01:40:47.000 Just reading books and chilling.

01:40:50.000 Mick Maynard and Sean Shelby and Joe Silva, the three of them have one thing in common.

01:40:57.000 All of them are super smart dudes.

01:40:58.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:40:59.000 Those matchmakers are not like, oh, let's do this.

01:41:02.000 They're very, very smart guys.

01:41:03.000 I've learned about a lot of books from Joe Silva.

01:41:05.000 Look at that board.

01:41:06.000 Look at all those names on that board.

01:41:08.000 Bro, that's the top 15. That still gives me a headache.

01:41:11.000 Really?

01:41:11.000 In every weight class.

01:41:12.000 Look at it.

01:41:12.000 It gives me a fucking headache.

01:41:14.000 That doesn't give you a headache?

01:41:15.000 No.

01:41:15.000 Yeah, because they're not all calling you.

01:41:17.000 I look at rankings.

01:41:17.000 Dude, all those guys.

01:41:19.000 Look at all those guys.

01:41:19.000 Between the four of us, we could figure out the match-ups.

01:41:22.000 No, no, no.

01:41:22.000 It takes too long.

01:41:23.000 And then some of them take care of themselves.

01:41:25.000 One, two, you're up.

01:41:26.000 Three, four.

01:41:27.000 I mean, let's not get crazy.

01:41:28.000 In between, driving Ferraris and making deals.

01:41:30.000 You don't have time to make these match-ups.

01:41:32.000 You've got to prove them.

01:41:33.000 You have time to hate on people on Instagram.

01:41:34.000 You've got time.

01:41:35.000 Oh, hate on people.

01:41:36.000 That's right.

01:41:36.000 Look at those numbers.

01:41:37.000 Look at all those numbers.

01:41:39.000 Look at those numbers.

01:41:40.000 Those numbers give me a goddamn headache.

01:41:41.000 It's just the top 15 rankings, bro.

01:41:42.000 Yeah, who's gonna fight who?

01:41:43.000 That's the easy part.

01:41:44.000 You know what really freaks me out?

01:41:46.000 How many of those people have his phone number and text him all the time.

01:41:49.000 Probably not many.

01:41:49.000 I'm like, ah!

01:41:50.000 Probably not many.

01:41:51.000 Just taking my phone, buzzing.

01:41:52.000 No, no.

01:41:54.000 See, what's crazy, if you think this is easy, 1 through 15, 15 through fucking 100 is the complicated part.

01:42:01.000 Yes.

01:42:02.000 The number 50 guy's gonna fight 43. Where do they fight?

01:42:05.000 Where do you put them?

01:42:06.000 Fly them in from Brazil.

01:42:07.000 You're not ranked.

01:42:08.000 Right.

01:42:08.000 So until you crack that top 15, nobody gives a shit.

01:42:11.000 Yeah, but you still gotta get matchups for them.

01:42:13.000 You gotta match them up.

01:42:14.000 And how often are you getting those matchups?

01:42:16.000 You get in a fight once in six months?

01:42:18.000 Once a year?

01:42:20.000 It's weird on the left they have the pound for pound rankings.

01:42:25.000 That's very strange.

01:42:28.000 It almost mirrors completely the website, though.

01:42:31.000 That's the very first thing.

01:42:32.000 Hey, is Amanda Nunez fighting Chris Cyborg soon?

01:42:35.000 Well, who does?

01:42:36.000 Yeah, they're supposed to put that together.

01:42:38.000 Cyborg's pissed about it.

01:42:39.000 She wanted to do September.

01:42:40.000 But Amanda Nunez has to wait until December.

01:42:42.000 Why?

01:42:43.000 Well, she probably wants to put some weight on.

01:42:45.000 She said she needs time, but she's gonna fight her, and Cyborg's not happy about it.

01:42:48.000 Why did she want to fight in September?

01:42:50.000 She fights once every year.

01:42:52.000 She's like, let's go, man.

01:42:54.000 But she also goes, all right, well, if you're not giving me that, give me someone else.

01:42:57.000 I don't want to wait till December.

01:42:58.000 I can fight both, but fight me.

01:43:00.000 Well, if Cyborg does decide...

01:43:04.000 To leave the UFC. Are they going to be able to get her fights somewhere else?

01:43:08.000 It doesn't matter.

01:43:09.000 UFC's not getting her fights.

01:43:10.000 Right, but who else is going to be able to?

01:43:12.000 It's not going to be easy for wherever she goes.

01:43:13.000 Nowhere she goes.

01:43:14.000 No.

01:43:15.000 Too good.

01:43:16.000 Yeah.

01:43:16.000 Well, too good and also...

01:43:17.000 There's not a lot of...

01:43:18.000 There's not a lot of legit 45s.

01:43:20.000 I mean, you saw how big Megan Anderson looked when she fought Holly Holm.

01:43:27.000 I mean, she looked a lot bigger than her.

01:43:28.000 You could have gave her a warm-up and then had her fight Cyborg.

01:43:31.000 That would have been better.

01:43:33.000 I wouldn't kill her off with Holly Holm, who's this animal.

01:43:36.000 Because now you don't have a competitor for Cyborg.

01:43:38.000 Where Megan Anderson would have been a fun one for Cyborg.

01:43:40.000 We did think that, you know, Megan is physically very big, very strong, likes to stand up and bang.

01:43:46.000 But now, at least a part of her game for that fight's been pretty exposed.

01:43:50.000 It's going to be a real problem.

01:43:52.000 Yeah, but also your first fight in the UFC fight in Holly Holm?

01:43:54.000 I know.

01:43:54.000 Fuck's sakes!

01:43:55.000 But she did get kind of wrestled and dominated on the ground by Holly, which is not...

01:44:00.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:00.000 So you're like, hmm, that's...

01:44:02.000 But still, Cyborg needs competitors.

01:44:05.000 That was their plan for that fight, too.

01:44:07.000 But Cyborg needs more stars and competitors, like stories.

01:44:10.000 Why kill one off with Holly?

01:44:12.000 Oh, 100%.

01:44:12.000 But the thing is, at least that's a fight where there's a name and a name.

01:44:16.000 So I can sell some pay-per-views with that fight.

01:44:19.000 Well, for Holly, at least.

01:44:21.000 Megan Anderson at least has some hype behind her.

01:44:23.000 She comes in.

01:44:24.000 It's a good fight for Holly.

01:44:25.000 But Holly took a big risk taking that fight, too.

01:44:27.000 What if she loses?

01:44:29.000 You know, it's a bad situation.

01:44:30.000 She's been losing a lot.

01:44:30.000 And going up to 45, staying at 45, and she's a legit 35er.

01:44:34.000 But also, Cyborg's not going to fight Holly.

01:44:36.000 She goes, no, you just don't beat that girl and get a rematch with me.

01:44:38.000 I just beat you.

01:44:39.000 Exactly.

01:44:40.000 So who fights her now?

01:44:40.000 Yeah.

01:44:41.000 So now you're in this situation where you're like, alright, let's call up Amanda Nunes.

01:44:44.000 Right.

01:44:45.000 Amanda Nunes fighting Chris Cyborg is very intriguing to me.

01:44:50.000 Way more dangerous.

01:44:51.000 Way more dangerous than what?

01:44:53.000 Way more dangerous than anybody that Cyborg's ever fought.

01:44:57.000 Correct.

01:44:57.000 Other than Gina.

01:44:58.000 And that Thai girl.

01:45:00.000 Oh.

01:45:01.000 Yeah, but that was just Muay Thai.

01:45:03.000 But Sharina Barge, you know, she knocked her down with a front kick to the face.

01:45:07.000 See, I would say a prime Holly's more scared.

01:45:09.000 Outstruck her.

01:45:10.000 Because Holly can get up to that weight.

01:45:13.000 Amanda Nunez, she's coming up.

01:45:15.000 She's smaller.

01:45:17.000 I agree.

01:45:18.000 Is she smaller, though?

01:45:19.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:45:20.000 I agree Holly is awesome and super highly skilled.

01:45:22.000 And a counter-striker who stylistically is more dangerous for Cyborg and Cyborg beat her pretty candidly.

01:45:27.000 Yeah, maybe if she fought her.

01:45:29.000 I mean, Holly is a little older.

01:45:31.000 She's like 36 now.

01:45:32.000 Amanda Nunez is coming forward and Cyborg coming forward.

01:45:35.000 There are two Mack trucks.

01:45:36.000 One's a way bigger fucking Brazilian truck.

01:45:39.000 What do you think is going to happen?

01:45:40.000 I didn't know.

01:45:41.000 That's a really good point because I didn't know.

01:45:42.000 I feel like Amanda Nunez is, shoulders-wise, she just looks every bit as big.

01:45:48.000 She's not.

01:45:48.000 No.

01:45:49.000 Sir!

01:45:50.000 She's smaller, and she does press forward, like, relentlessly.

01:45:53.000 Here's the thing, she doesn't have to fight that way.

01:45:56.000 We're assuming that she has to fight that way.

01:45:59.000 You're telling me she can use footwork like Holly?

01:46:00.000 Well, she used a lot of footwork in the last fight.

01:46:03.000 Great hands.

01:46:04.000 She punches hard.

01:46:06.000 She punches very hard.

01:46:07.000 Long arms, like, bow, bow, bow.

01:46:08.000 Long arms and punches hard?

01:46:11.000 You know who has longer arms and punches harder?

01:46:13.000 Yeah.

01:46:14.000 Her name's Cyborg.

01:46:16.000 There's not a woman alive who can beat her.

01:46:17.000 She's the greatest of all time.

01:46:18.000 It's definitely a dangerous fight.

01:46:20.000 I think Amanda Nunes has more technique, but I think when you come up like that, and you have this animal cyborg, it's scary if you get Claressa Shields to learn how to sprawl.

01:46:32.000 You ever seen Shields?

01:46:34.000 I don't know who Claressa Shields is.

01:46:36.000 Jamie, bring up Claressa Shields in Cyborg Spawn.

01:46:38.000 You've seen this?

01:46:39.000 Oh, that black guy.

01:46:40.000 She was a champion.

01:46:41.000 Black boxer.

01:46:42.000 Black girl, bro.

01:46:43.000 You said black guy.

01:46:44.000 I said black girl.

01:46:45.000 You said guy.

01:46:45.000 No, I didn't.

01:46:46.000 I think you said guy.

01:46:47.000 You said guy.

01:46:47.000 You might have just made a mistake.

01:46:49.000 Sometimes I say Brian and I really mean to see Brendan.

01:46:51.000 No, she's amazing, though.

01:46:52.000 She can bang.

01:46:53.000 She's phenomenal.

01:46:53.000 They get sparring and they bang, bang.

01:46:56.000 Now imagine, name another professional female fighter who can get down like this.

01:47:01.000 Zero.

01:47:02.000 Oh, and she's an Olympic medalist, Brian.

01:47:03.000 Yeah.

01:47:04.000 Two times.

01:47:04.000 I watched this.

01:47:05.000 Let's watch a little of this.

01:47:06.000 Yeah, there's zero...

01:47:08.000 I would pay money for you to jump in there with either one of these girls.

01:47:10.000 No, no, no, don't do that.

01:47:12.000 No, thank you.

01:47:12.000 Don't get hurt.

01:47:13.000 Yeah, I just want to see them get starched.

01:47:14.000 Look at her fucking skill level.

01:47:16.000 Like the way she's able to counter with straight shots and use that jab and go to the body and then up to the head.

01:47:22.000 Chris is doing work.

01:47:23.000 Oh, yeah.

01:47:24.000 Chris is dangerous, man.

01:47:25.000 She's fucking dangerous.

01:47:27.000 And Claressa, correct me if I'm wrong, I believe she fights at a heavier weight class.

01:47:31.000 Yes.

01:47:31.000 No, you're right.

01:47:32.000 I think she fights at 65. Is that what her weight class is?

01:47:34.000 She's heavier.

01:47:35.000 And she's the best female box in the world right now.

01:47:38.000 Yeah, and look at her fucking counter-strikes.

01:47:39.000 Look how she goes to the body and to the head.

01:47:41.000 Look at that.

01:47:42.000 Right to the body and right over the top.

01:47:44.000 And she's on Cyborg, too, man.

01:47:45.000 They're throwing down, dude.

01:47:47.000 Yeah, she's winning the rounds, but Cyborg's holding her own is my point.

01:47:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:47:50.000 And by By the way, if Cyborg could kick her legs, Claressa would be fucked.

01:47:54.000 I'm just saying, when we talk about Amanda Nunes' fight, we talk about her stand-up, it's like, I get that, but Cyborg's very big, man, and deals with high-level boxers.

01:48:03.000 For sure.

01:48:04.000 Amanda Nunes is my favorite female fighter.

01:48:08.000 The only difference is...

01:48:09.000 Amazing.

01:48:09.000 Claress is standing right in front of her and pressing her and she's trying to put it on her.

01:48:14.000 I don't think Amanda Nunes' smart strategy would be to fight this way.

01:48:17.000 I think her best strategy would be to use the aggression of Cyborg and try to counter and get out.

01:48:23.000 Has she ever fought that way before though?

01:48:25.000 She can.

01:48:26.000 She's smart enough.

01:48:27.000 Matt Brown's a genius.

01:48:28.000 She fought real slick against Raquel Pennington.

01:48:31.000 It wasn't just attacking and mauling.

01:48:33.000 What'd I say?

01:48:34.000 You said Matt, but Mike is.

01:48:35.000 Mike's amazing.

01:48:36.000 How about Mike, man?

01:48:37.000 Mike's crushing it.

01:48:39.000 Champion in his own right.

01:48:40.000 Great fighter himself.

01:48:42.000 The only guy he lost to was Jose Aldo in his prime.

01:48:45.000 A lot of money.

01:48:46.000 Dan Lambert put a lot of money in the American Top Team.

01:48:48.000 That motherfucker, if it wasn't for him, if it wasn't for Dan Lambert and his contributions, the state of MMA would be a percentage or two lower than it is now.

01:48:56.000 I agree with that.

01:48:57.000 Three more.

01:48:57.000 There'd be no Colby Covington either.

01:48:59.000 No, no.

01:49:00.000 A lot of those guys.

01:49:00.000 He took them under their wing and brought them up.

01:49:02.000 And they just built a new place.

01:49:03.000 He put in dormitories, built a giant gym, built it from the ground up.

01:49:07.000 Bought a piece of land.

01:49:08.000 Put a fucking structure up.

01:49:10.000 He's a monster.

01:49:11.000 It's a beast.

01:49:11.000 Amazing.

01:49:12.000 Dan Lambert's an animal.

01:49:13.000 They need to put him in the UFC Hall of Fame.

01:49:15.000 No bullshit.

01:49:16.000 He should be in some sort of MMA Hall of Fame.

01:49:18.000 Him and a source.

01:49:19.000 Yeah, I mean, if guys...

01:49:20.000 You think about...

01:49:22.000 The amount of money that he had to invest, the time he had to take, and the fact that he wasn't making any money out of it.

01:49:27.000 It's a passion project.

01:49:28.000 He lost their ass.

01:49:29.000 He lost a lot of money, and he got fucked over by a bunch of people, too.

01:49:32.000 No need to name names, but he'll tell you personally.

01:49:35.000 He got fucked over by a bunch of guys that he trusted.

01:49:38.000 And over the years, he learned who he could trust and who he can, and developed this incredible school and this incredible gym.

01:49:45.000 I mean, it's one of the best facilities on the planet Earth.

01:49:48.000 When it comes to MMA training, think about how many high-level guys.

01:49:51.000 Yeah.

01:49:52.000 Unbelievable.

01:49:52.000 Yeah, this is it right now.

01:49:53.000 I mean, you know, it's crazy.

01:49:55.000 Phenomenal, phenomenal, Jim.

01:49:56.000 But it's Dan Lambert's money and investment.

01:49:58.000 The fact that he had the balls to put the money up for something like that.

01:50:01.000 Long-ass time ago.

01:50:02.000 First time I ever saw Hector Lombard, and he walked across the mat, and I'd never quite seen anybody that thick.

01:50:10.000 Those Cuban jeans, those Yoel Romero jeans.

01:50:13.000 I said, what's he fight at?

01:50:14.000 And they were like, at the time it was 85 and I didn't believe 85. He says another thing.

01:50:17.000 Like plantains.

01:50:18.000 Oh, plantains are good for you, bro.

01:50:20.000 I was talking about rice and beans and plantains.

01:50:22.000 Garlic and chicken.

01:50:23.000 No, Hector.

01:50:23.000 Did Hector retire?

01:50:24.000 You ever have that garlic chicken from Versailles?

01:50:27.000 Versailles.

01:50:28.000 Oh, fuck.

01:50:29.000 God.

01:50:29.000 Goddamn, that's just delicious.

01:50:30.000 I love Cuban food, dude.

01:50:32.000 Me too, man.

01:50:33.000 They have that garlic chicken with onions.

01:50:35.000 It's got like a lemon sauce.

01:50:36.000 I want that now.

01:50:37.000 The plantains, my mouth is wobbly.

01:50:39.000 God, I love Cuban food.

01:50:40.000 The smell of it.

01:50:40.000 Dude, I've been doing that fucking...

01:50:42.000 I love Cubans in general.

01:50:43.000 Black beans and rice on the side.

01:50:45.000 Come on, son.

01:50:45.000 Cuban culture.

01:50:46.000 Cuban girls?

01:50:47.000 I love Cubans.

01:50:48.000 I love Cubans.

01:50:48.000 I like the Cuban culture.

01:50:49.000 I know it's Joey Diaz, but I love him.

01:50:51.000 No, no, no, man.

01:50:52.000 I love you, Cuban girls.

01:50:54.000 Miami is great because of the Cubans.

01:50:57.000 It's a big part of it, for sure.

01:50:58.000 For sure.

01:50:59.000 They're such a blast.

01:51:00.000 They're a festive people.

01:51:00.000 Oh, best audiences.

01:51:02.000 I fucking love them.

01:51:03.000 I love them.

01:51:03.000 They make the best cigars on the planet Earth.

01:51:05.000 Everybody knows that.

01:51:07.000 And good-looking people.

01:51:07.000 They're not so hard to get anymore, are they?

01:51:09.000 Well, you get a lot of fake ones.

01:51:11.000 You get a lot of fake ones.

01:51:12.000 You get some fake ones, too.

01:51:14.000 There's a limited amount of land they grow it on.

01:51:15.000 The most precious land.

01:51:17.000 I think it's something ridiculously small.

01:51:19.000 What, the cigars?

01:51:20.000 Yeah.

01:51:21.000 Yeah, I think there's Viejo Baja.

01:51:25.000 What is the name of the area?

01:51:26.000 There's one area where they grow.

01:51:29.000 It may as well be Viejo Baja.

01:51:30.000 I don't care.

01:51:31.000 We're going to find out.

01:51:31.000 You know what I mean?

01:51:32.000 But it's the soil.

01:51:33.000 There's something really special about the mineral content.

01:51:35.000 What makes them so special?

01:51:36.000 Something about the mineral contact in the soil.

01:51:38.000 Wine's that way.

01:51:39.000 If you can buy a plot of land here, and the wine's like 30 bucks a bottle, for whatever reason, because of where the sun hits and what time, just over here, like the next plot over is worth, like, you know, it's a $100 bottle of wine.

01:51:54.000 Vuelta Abajo in the Semi Vuelto region, so the Pinar del Rio province.

01:52:03.000 It's located at the western end of Cuba and contains the Vuelta Abajo.

01:52:08.000 So Vuelta Abajo.

01:52:09.000 The Vuelta Abajo is where everybody wants cigars from.

01:52:13.000 Nowhere in the world grows tobacco better than Cuba.

01:52:15.000 Wow.

01:52:16.000 Yeah.

01:52:16.000 So that area, though, grows these cigars.

01:52:19.000 Like, if you ever had a really good, like, Hoyo de Monterrey double Corona five Havana, this is what you want to do, bro.

01:52:26.000 You want to eat a fat steak.

01:52:28.000 Like a fat ribeye.

01:52:30.000 In my mouth.

01:52:31.000 And after you carpeted that ribeye, you sit there with a double espresso.

01:52:35.000 This is such a guy thing.

01:52:36.000 And a ridiculously fat cigar that gets you high after two puffs.

01:52:41.000 Steak and a dick suck, bro.

01:52:42.000 You're sitting there puffing on this Cuban cigar.

01:52:46.000 But here's the fucking thing.

01:52:47.000 With one of those drug tigers at my feet so I can squish my feet in its fur.

01:52:50.000 Drugged up tiger.

01:52:52.000 Nyquil tiger.

01:52:53.000 Yes, bare feet.

01:52:55.000 Nyquil'd up fucking tiger.

01:52:56.000 All heroin.

01:52:57.000 You ever seen those guys roll those cigars?

01:53:00.000 It's pretty impressive.

01:53:01.000 It's a skilled thing.

01:53:03.000 Really?

01:53:03.000 It's a craftsmanship thing.

01:53:05.000 They take pride in it.

01:53:06.000 It's not simple like rolling a joint.

01:53:08.000 I thought it was done between fat, beautiful Cuban fat thighs.

01:53:13.000 There's videos of these people doing it.

01:53:15.000 They're skilled, man.

01:53:17.000 They know which tobacco leaves to take and how to put it together and what you put on the outside is different than what's on the inside.

01:53:24.000 And this fucking one guy I was watching at the airport, Some place near the airport, rather, where they would roll cigars.

01:53:30.000 You can go and watch them do it.

01:53:33.000 And it's like you stand in front of the windows.

01:53:35.000 Dude, puffing on a stogie.

01:53:36.000 This was in Miami.

01:53:37.000 I went with Joey.

01:53:39.000 Way, way, way back in the day, there was a place where you could go where you could watch some people roll cigars.

01:53:45.000 And so they would roll the cigars in front of you and press them and put it all together.

01:53:50.000 Just like this guy here.

01:53:51.000 And they had like moisture.

01:53:53.000 Yeah, but dude, it's impressive.

01:53:55.000 Any skill like that, right?

01:53:56.000 Any touch.

01:53:58.000 Craftsman.

01:53:59.000 Yeah, they knew how to do it.

01:54:00.000 Like, he's trimming it and they're doing it all by hand and by feel and he knows how much to put in the cigar.

01:54:06.000 Look at this.

01:54:06.000 So now he's...

01:54:07.000 This is what you're going to smoke.

01:54:09.000 This is what you're smoking.

01:54:09.000 Yes.

01:54:10.000 So he's rolling this bitch up.

01:54:12.000 Oh, wow.

01:54:12.000 And look, see, he's broken it all up by hand, and he's getting his finger wet and wetting down the leaves.

01:54:17.000 Yeah, dude, it's seriously skilled labor.

01:54:20.000 And you gotta think, this guy might be rolling...

01:54:22.000 Beautiful hands.

01:54:23.000 I have a question.

01:54:23.000 Might be rolling 20 of those in the same box.

01:54:26.000 And look, see how he cuts it with that old-school knife.

01:54:28.000 Damn.

01:54:29.000 Then he smoked that thing.

01:54:30.000 Oh, fuck yeah, you do.

01:54:31.000 I have a question.

01:54:32.000 Look how he pinches it down and seals the end.

01:54:34.000 This is beautiful, man.

01:54:35.000 Do you think he's doing extra because the cameras are there?

01:54:37.000 No, no, no.

01:54:37.000 This is how they do it.

01:54:38.000 I watched them.

01:54:39.000 Maybe, bro.

01:54:39.000 And then this is the outside.

01:54:40.000 So that's the inside of the leaf.

01:54:42.000 Then they take the outside.

01:54:43.000 So there's the outside, which is...

01:54:45.000 What do they call that shit?

01:54:46.000 What do they call it?

01:54:47.000 The outside of the leaf.

01:54:48.000 There's a wrap.

01:54:49.000 Is it the wrap?

01:54:49.000 I think they call it the wrap.

01:54:50.000 Blunt wrap.

01:54:51.000 So he trims it to the perfect size, and then he gets this bitch up there and he rolls that motherfucker tight.

01:54:56.000 Look at that.

01:54:57.000 Look at that.

01:54:58.000 Roll it tight, you fuck!

01:54:59.000 Look at how he's backing it up and slowing it down and add a little moisture here.

01:55:03.000 Let me get my hand on my pants.

01:55:04.000 Keep talking.

01:55:04.000 Yeah, these guys are skilled laborers.

01:55:07.000 I mean, this is an art form.

01:55:08.000 Do you guys love cigars?

01:55:09.000 I do enjoy a cigar every now and again.

01:55:11.000 But not like you're not doing it every Friday night or some shit.

01:55:13.000 Hey, you're a pot connoisseur.

01:55:15.000 I have a question.

01:55:16.000 You're a pot connoisseur.

01:55:18.000 I was thinking about this.

01:55:20.000 They spray the fuck out of weed, right?

01:55:22.000 They spray it with lots of pesticides.

01:55:24.000 Do they?

01:55:25.000 I believe a lot.

01:55:26.000 Milk, it's grown a lot.

01:55:27.000 It's grown indoors.

01:55:27.000 You should talk to Gino.

01:55:29.000 No, I actually have it on good authority that they spray the shit out of it.

01:55:32.000 I don't think so.

01:55:33.000 Some are.

01:55:33.000 It's like pesticides or organic pesticides as a whole.

01:55:36.000 I have it on good authority that when you buy a lot of weed, they spray the fuck out of it because it's valuable and it gets moldy.

01:55:44.000 So they will spray it to death.

01:55:46.000 Then it doesn't really get washed.

01:55:50.000 When you do it in bulk, you're buying people who deal in this stuff in big bulk.

01:55:54.000 They kind of did money, money, spray, and then you smoke that.

01:56:00.000 I wonder what that does.

01:56:02.000 Get you high and you have fun?

01:56:04.000 Yeah, those things definitely happen.

01:56:05.000 You know what I mean?

01:56:06.000 You have to pick on everything?

01:56:07.000 Yeah, I do.

01:56:07.000 The weed?

01:56:08.000 Fuck your pesticides.

01:56:09.000 I was asking a question.

01:56:10.000 Fuck your pesticides.

01:56:11.000 Just come on, smoke it.

01:56:13.000 Yeah.

01:56:14.000 But I think they must wash it.

01:56:16.000 I don't think they do.

01:56:17.000 They definitely don't.

01:56:18.000 You think those guys are watching?

01:56:19.000 Those guys are watching their own feet.

01:56:21.000 You were seeing those guys?

01:56:22.000 How about this?

01:56:23.000 How about this?

01:56:25.000 When you're counting a million dollars, when you have those money counters, and you're in a room, and they're, like, they're, because a lot of it's just cash, right?

01:56:32.000 Yeah.

01:56:32.000 Guess what?

01:56:32.000 You gotta touch that button.

01:56:33.000 You might want to go in there with a mask.

01:56:35.000 Why?

01:56:35.000 Number one, you can actually get a runny nose from the cocaine residue, and you get sick because of the dirt that comes off money.

01:56:44.000 Have you ever seen what they found on money?

01:56:47.000 They found shit on money.

01:56:48.000 First of all, almost every dollar bill has some residue of cocaine.

01:56:52.000 Not just dollar bills, but like 20 dollars.

01:56:55.000 But forget all that.

01:56:56.000 They found, this guy did this analysis on a bunch of different dollar bills.

01:57:00.000 They even found white rhino horn powder.

01:57:03.000 On all fucking movies?

01:57:04.000 On just a bunch of the bills because it gets, you know, the number of times that it's, you know, but they found crazy shit.

01:57:10.000 White rhino powder.

01:57:11.000 They found cocaine.

01:57:12.000 They found all kinds of weird dirt.

01:57:14.000 And people partying, bro?

01:57:15.000 Yeah.

01:57:15.000 That rhino powder is the weirdest one.

01:57:17.000 Isn't that weird?

01:57:18.000 Because probably some poachers were turning back and forth.

01:57:21.000 Here's the thing about the rhino thing.

01:57:22.000 There's nothing that shows that that does anything.

01:57:25.000 Remember we were talking about the bear bile earlier?

01:57:27.000 That rhino thing doesn't do anything.

01:57:29.000 No, it's just fucked up.

01:57:29.000 That's the craziest thing.

01:57:30.000 It's so old school.

01:57:31.000 They're killing rhinos just like almost to say, oh, this tea is made out of dead rhinos.

01:57:36.000 Come have a seat.

01:57:37.000 Right.

01:57:37.000 We are very fancy gentlemen.

01:57:39.000 We're drinking rhino tea.

01:57:41.000 Do you tell me if you're...

01:57:42.000 It does make me think it does that.

01:57:44.000 If someone's like, dude, we got rhino horn tea, I'm like, I gotta try that.

01:57:47.000 Well, you know what, man?

01:57:48.000 If you're far enough removed from the actual source of the misery, and you don't actually see the rhino get a shot in the head and his horn hacked off, and you just think you're a fancy guy with a gold Rolex on drinking some rhino tea...

01:58:00.000 Yeah.

01:58:01.000 I mean, there's a lot of that.

01:58:02.000 Back in the day.

01:58:03.000 They want to be exclusive.

01:58:05.000 People want to be exclusive.

01:58:06.000 They love it.

01:58:07.000 And I think it was called, what is it called?

01:58:08.000 The Green Hills of Africa, I think it's called.

01:58:10.000 The Hemingway book.

01:58:11.000 And he describes killing a rhino.

01:58:13.000 And it was done back then.

01:58:15.000 Damn, that's your second one, bro?

01:58:16.000 Yeah.

01:58:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:58:17.000 You get nuts.

01:58:19.000 Start throwing up.

01:58:20.000 In the evening, too.

01:58:22.000 No, I just flew from the other side of the planet, son.

01:58:24.000 Quite a week.

01:58:26.000 Why I went and bought all that weed last week is because the new rules came into place and they have to test for pesticides.

01:58:31.000 Ooh!

01:58:32.000 So I was like, they had six months, which I guess it started as a July.

01:58:35.000 So Jamie's like, give me that pesticide-covered weed, son.

01:58:37.000 I don't want your bullshit-ass clean weed.

01:58:39.000 I like it.

01:58:41.000 It's just now starting.

01:58:42.000 That makes sense.

01:58:42.000 What we smoked is what I've been smoking a lot lately is blunts.

01:58:46.000 With the tobacco on the outside and the weed on the inside.

01:58:48.000 Is that what I just smoked?

01:58:48.000 Yeah.

01:58:49.000 I felt like I stacked at the taste.

01:58:50.000 You got a little buzz.

01:58:52.000 My poor pink lungs.

01:58:53.000 No, no, no.

01:58:54.000 You get a little buzz, son.

01:58:55.000 It's like a little cigar type deal.

01:58:56.000 I don't know.

01:58:57.000 A little buzz.

01:58:58.000 You're not doing it every day.

01:58:59.000 Great.

01:58:59.000 Now I'm hooked on cigarettes.

01:59:00.000 Thanks, Joe.

01:59:01.000 Well, I got back into it again with Chappelle.

01:59:05.000 Chappelle smoked one with me.

01:59:07.000 And I was like, dude, I'm like elevated here.

01:59:09.000 He goes, it's nice, right?

01:59:10.000 I go, it's weird.

01:59:11.000 I go, it's like the tobacco mixed in with the weed.

01:59:13.000 I forgot about it.

01:59:14.000 And the last time I'd really smoked one before that was with Charlie Murphy.

01:59:19.000 What does that say?

01:59:19.000 Juul users sue what?

01:59:21.000 Over the addictive e-cigarettes?

01:59:22.000 That's giving them too much nicotine.

01:59:24.000 You fucking babies.

01:59:26.000 Just stop smoking.

01:59:27.000 Last time I saw Chappelle, he was in the back.

01:59:30.000 He was using one of the fucking vapor pens.

01:59:32.000 Here's my doctor, says this way better.

01:59:34.000 I went, have you ever looked into that?

01:59:36.000 Because they don't know for sure if it's that much better for you.

01:59:39.000 Vaping?

01:59:40.000 Yeah.

01:59:41.000 Yeah.

01:59:41.000 I don't know if it's better, but I know a lot of people say it's better.

01:59:44.000 I don't know if they're right.

01:59:45.000 I feel like smoke itself...

01:59:46.000 What is vape?

01:59:47.000 You are getting smoke with a vape, but it's different, right?

01:59:51.000 But in that smoke, like in that container, there's alcohol, there's all sorts of weird shit in that fucking...

01:59:55.000 Yeah.

01:59:55.000 Like, that stuff's not...

01:59:56.000 Yeah.

01:59:56.000 Well, that's the thing with those weed ones, too.

01:59:58.000 I ran into some dude who told me he makes it with MCT oil.

02:00:01.000 Yeah.

02:00:02.000 Oh, good.

02:00:02.000 Well, why not?

02:00:03.000 I'll smoke it.

02:00:04.000 Yeah, oil's oil, I guess.

02:00:05.000 Yeah.

02:00:06.000 You are ingesting it in your lungs.

02:00:09.000 Yeah.

02:00:10.000 Yeah, you're doing something.

02:00:12.000 I'm getting into psychedelics, I've decided.

02:00:14.000 You've decided?

02:00:14.000 I'm not kidding.

02:00:15.000 Dude, we did DMT together, bro.

02:00:16.000 I want to do it again.

02:00:17.000 And not only that, I want to do acid.

02:00:19.000 I've never done that.

02:00:20.000 I've done mushrooms many times.

02:00:22.000 You know what?

02:00:22.000 No, I like it.

02:00:24.000 No, because I'm getting into meditation.

02:00:26.000 I'm getting into meditation.

02:00:27.000 You want to use the tank?

02:00:28.000 Why don't you use the tank?

02:00:29.000 I've done that.

02:00:30.000 I'm letting go of my ego, dude.

02:00:31.000 You can let go of your ego.

02:00:32.000 This tank's right here for you.

02:00:34.000 Remember the one you want.

02:00:35.000 Remember the one time we used the tank?

02:00:37.000 In San Francisco?

02:00:39.000 You should use it.

02:00:39.000 Yeah, I do, bro.

02:00:40.000 Not for me.

02:00:41.000 Get bad?

02:00:42.000 Brendan decided...

02:00:42.000 I'm going to say it.

02:00:44.000 Say it.

02:00:44.000 Brendan decided he was bored and he yanked one off.

02:00:48.000 Butt naked is warm.

02:00:50.000 I was like, dude, my dick is out.

02:00:51.000 So everybody else has to lie in your cum.

02:00:53.000 People lying in your cum deals?

02:00:54.000 That's so rude.

02:00:55.000 And you know that happens all the time and that's why I'm never doing a public...

02:00:58.000 Okay, well, let me tell you something.

02:00:59.000 This tank, unless Dan Harris from fucking Good Morning America, unless he's jacking off in the tank, he's the only one who's been in it other than me.

02:01:08.000 Don't let this degenerate in there, because I'll tell you right now, this fucking guy will squeeze one off right now.

02:01:15.000 Would you squeeze one off of my tank?

02:01:16.000 Yes, he will.

02:01:17.000 That's so disrespectful.

02:01:18.000 He's a liar!

02:01:19.000 I thought this was a big place.

02:01:21.000 I thought they'd filter the water.

02:01:23.000 He comes out...

02:01:24.000 He comes out like being naked.

02:01:25.000 I don't like being naked in warm water, bro.

02:01:27.000 It's super exotic to me.

02:01:29.000 You should jerk off before you go in there so you're not tempted.

02:01:31.000 No, the water doesn't.

02:01:32.000 The salt, warm, floating.

02:01:34.000 What if your jack went off first?

02:01:36.000 Then you'll be like, man, I wish I was horny right now so I could beat up.

02:01:40.000 That's disrespectful.

02:01:40.000 He came out and he goes like this.

02:01:41.000 He's like this.

02:01:43.000 And I'm like, what?

02:01:44.000 He goes, how was your thing?

02:01:44.000 I go, it was good.

02:01:45.000 It was actually really amazing.

02:01:46.000 I kind of felt myself floating.

02:01:48.000 And he goes, yeah, I jacked off.

02:01:52.000 I was like, hey, way to ruin it!

02:01:54.000 I go, what'd you do?

02:01:55.000 What'd you do with it?

02:01:56.000 He goes, I just fucking jacked up in the water.

02:02:00.000 Shooting heavy arcs.

02:02:02.000 That place is never gonna let me back!

02:02:05.000 I'm in San Francisco in October!

02:02:07.000 Goldfish skimmer.

02:02:09.000 Well, the salt kills everything, but gee whiz.

02:02:12.000 Oh, whatever.

02:02:12.000 Something like it does.

02:02:14.000 I got ozone filters on this thing, man.

02:02:17.000 I don't want dead cum on me, okay?

02:02:19.000 I'm not jacking off in Joe's fucking tub, bro.

02:02:22.000 It's a one-time thing.

02:02:24.000 Shout out to the float lab in Venice, California, and now Westwood.

02:02:27.000 They have the best tanks, and he's most meticulous about his fucking filtration systems.

02:02:32.000 He uses water filtration systems like you would use for a city.

02:02:37.000 Mike, you can see these giant fucking machines.

02:02:40.000 You should see the setup you put back here.

02:02:41.000 It's like commercial water filtration.

02:02:43.000 It's back here?

02:02:44.000 Back here.

02:02:44.000 Do they keep pervs?

02:02:45.000 Let me check out your tub, bro.

02:02:46.000 They keep everything out.

02:02:48.000 Yeah.

02:02:48.000 And we film.

02:02:50.000 We film.

02:02:51.000 There's a security camera.

02:02:53.000 There's a fucking night vision.

02:02:56.000 It's just a little red light.

02:02:57.000 Dude, it was a one fucking time thing.

02:02:59.000 I was in the warm water.

02:03:00.000 I don't like being naked.

02:03:01.000 I get it.

02:03:03.000 Look, anytime someone says I was beaten off, I go, I get it.

02:03:06.000 Who doesn't?

02:03:07.000 Me too.

02:03:08.000 I'm going to be judged like a motherfucker.

02:03:09.000 Yeah, I don't want to be judged.

02:03:10.000 I get it.

02:03:11.000 Me too.

02:03:12.000 People are gross.

02:03:13.000 Yeah.

02:03:13.000 Especially men.

02:03:15.000 Especially men.

02:03:16.000 Any other fights we should talk about to wrap this up?

02:03:23.000 Is Stipe going to get another shot at him?

02:03:26.000 He should, huh?

02:03:27.000 You know what I mean?

02:03:27.000 This is what people are thinking.

02:03:29.000 People are thinking, you know, the guy fights, wins more UFC title defenses than anybody in the history of the sport, becomes the most accomplished heavyweight of all time.

02:03:42.000 I mean, you think about what he's done.

02:03:44.000 You think about the fact that he knocks out Fabrizio Verdum to win the title.

02:03:47.000 He knocks out Alistair Overeem to defend the title.

02:03:49.000 Knocks out Junior Dos Santos.

02:03:51.000 Stops, beats Francis when everybody's terrified of Francis.

02:03:55.000 I mean, he became the most accomplished heavyweight of all time, right?

02:03:58.000 Then he gets knocked out by a crazy perfect punch by Daniel Cormier in a perfect strategy.

02:04:04.000 You gotta go well.

02:04:07.000 For sure, I'd like to see a rematch.

02:04:10.000 It's like when?

02:04:11.000 Do you want to see him beat somebody first and then have a rematch?

02:04:13.000 I actually want to see...

02:04:14.000 But for me, Daniel Cormier, I've always said it, is the most impressive fighter to ever step in the octagon in terms of his stature.

02:04:21.000 I just think he's incredible, right?

02:04:23.000 To me, he's the best...

02:04:25.000 I want to see him fight Jon Jones.

02:04:26.000 I know that Jon Jones, they say has his number.

02:04:29.000 That's not happening, fellas.

02:04:29.000 Well, the big money is in him versus Brock.

02:04:31.000 That's all he's waiting for.

02:04:33.000 So even with Alexander Gustvin, all this 205 talk, he's like, yo, Romero?

02:04:36.000 He's like, well, that's not happening.

02:04:37.000 I'm retiring in March.

02:04:39.000 Brock, are we ready to go?

02:04:40.000 Oh, okay.

02:04:41.000 Maybe January?

02:04:41.000 Well, Corey Anderson just asked for a title shot now, after he just beat Glover.

02:04:46.000 And so, you know, he said something like, hey, you know, like, maybe we can do it.

02:04:49.000 I love Corey Anderson, but the UFC's going to be like, no.

02:04:52.000 The fight is Brock.

02:04:53.000 Of course it's Brock.

02:04:53.000 DC controls the narrative, guys.

02:04:55.000 Can Brock pass tests?

02:04:58.000 Look at me.

02:04:59.000 Yeah.

02:05:00.000 Yeah?

02:05:01.000 You know it.

02:05:02.000 Yeah.

02:05:02.000 Come on, bro.

02:05:03.000 Come on.

02:05:03.000 How long do you need before it goes out of your system?

02:05:06.000 How long do you need before it's like, uh...

02:05:07.000 The answer's never, Brian.

02:05:09.000 Gustafson opens up on crazy situation, taking him off UFC 227. Look at those ears.

02:05:15.000 He's got a small injury, so he won't talk about it.

02:05:17.000 Oh, he won't talk about it?

02:05:18.000 Then how's he opening up?

02:05:20.000 Well, because people are like, oh, you won't fight Anthony Smith, but you'll fight DC or you'll fight at heavyweight, but now all of a sudden you're injured.

02:05:26.000 Anthony Smith versus Shogun was a fight that I was concerned about.

02:05:30.000 I thought Shogun retired.

02:05:32.000 Yeah.

02:05:33.000 However, he won three in a row.

02:05:34.000 If he would have won that, I wanted to see him get a title shot against DC because I want DC to get paid.

02:05:39.000 Well, Shogun is, he was ranked, I think, eighth before this fight.

02:05:44.000 But even though he's not that old, how old is Shogun?

02:05:47.000 100 years old in the fight world, though.

02:05:49.000 He's a tortoise in fight world.

02:05:52.000 He's a fucking Brazilian tortoise with a unibrow.

02:05:55.000 How old is Shogun?

02:05:57.000 I think he's like 36, right?

02:05:59.000 He's my age.

02:05:59.000 Is he?

02:06:00.000 36. 36. You're older.

02:06:02.000 Even though he's 36. Look, when Bernard Hopkins was 36 is when he knocked out Tito Trinidad.

02:06:07.000 Oh, yeah.

02:06:08.000 He was in his prime.

02:06:09.000 In his prime.

02:06:09.000 When he beat Kelly Pavlik, I think he was close to 40. 42, I think.

02:06:16.000 Kelly Pavlik's a killer!

02:06:18.000 Yeah, not for everybody.

02:06:19.000 It doesn't mean that they're past their prime.

02:06:21.000 But Shogun had been in so many wars, and he got knocked out by Dan Henderson in that last fight.

02:06:25.000 MMA's different, brother.

02:06:26.000 MMA's different.

02:06:27.000 In 19, he came on the Grand Prix.

02:06:29.000 It's different, man.

02:06:30.000 Pride days, too.

02:06:31.000 It's a different world.

02:06:32.000 Did you take all the drugs in Pride?

02:06:34.000 Yeah.

02:06:34.000 And now we got the Grand Snitch.

02:06:36.000 It's such a different environment.

02:06:38.000 Yeah, man.

02:06:38.000 You'd never know who was doing what back then.

02:06:41.000 Anthony Smith is a motherfucker, though.

02:06:42.000 He's a motherfucker, dude.

02:06:43.000 At 205, he's a talented dude.

02:06:45.000 He's a motherfucker.

02:06:45.000 Let's not just propel him to fight Gustafsson.

02:06:48.000 No, no, no, no.

02:06:48.000 Dude, let him...

02:06:49.000 But meanwhile, he was ready.

02:06:50.000 Meanwhile, he was ready.

02:06:51.000 He wanted the fight.

02:06:52.000 Look, here's the argument for it.

02:06:54.000 The argument for it is, he knocks out Rashad on short notice.

02:06:57.000 He knocks out Shogun.

02:06:59.000 And then he'll say, look, I'll take this fight too.

02:07:01.000 That guy's rolling.

02:07:02.000 He's ready to go.

02:07:03.000 He's a veteran.

02:07:04.000 He's got momentum.

02:07:05.000 You know the fight, the most intriguing fight to me would be...

02:07:08.000 I mean, it's not Brock, and I like Brock DC because DC gets paid.

02:07:13.000 Me too.

02:07:14.000 That's the only reason.

02:07:15.000 Yes, but the most intriguing fight to me in a lot of ways would be Yoel Romero at 205, so he didn't deal with that weight cut, with Daniel Cormier.

02:07:24.000 Well, Cormier was like, no, no, no, you can't lose at this fight.

02:07:28.000 And you miss weight.

02:07:29.000 Sure.

02:07:30.000 And you miss weight.

02:07:31.000 Cormier's smart.

02:07:31.000 But then Yoel's like, listen, DC, you cheated when you made weight.

02:07:35.000 You know you were pushing down that towel that one time?

02:07:37.000 Okay.

02:07:38.000 That one time.

02:07:39.000 That one time, that was real.

02:07:40.000 Do we want to talk about cheating for Yoel to DC? What are you saying?

02:07:44.000 Brandon?

02:07:45.000 Stoolgate?

02:07:46.000 Oh, Stoolgate.

02:07:47.000 Here's the difference.

02:07:47.000 You fucked my boy Tim over.

02:07:49.000 The coaches.

02:07:50.000 You're saying the coaches.

02:07:50.000 John McCarthy said it totally different.

02:07:52.000 When John McCarthy explained it to me, and I think he explained it to me off the air, this is what was wrong.

02:07:57.000 The guy who put too much Vaseline on...

02:08:03.000 Yoel was not in his corner.

02:08:05.000 The guy was a UFC employee.

02:08:07.000 And he wasn't coming back in.

02:08:10.000 And John was trying to get him to come back in.

02:08:12.000 And he didn't come back in.

02:08:13.000 And Yoel sat down on the chair.

02:08:15.000 And he said if he had to do things differently, he would have done things much differently.

02:08:18.000 He would have forced him off the chair now.

02:08:19.000 But he said this clusterfuck that happened over 30 seconds was not because of Yoel's corner.

02:08:24.000 It was because of a UFC employee.

02:08:26.000 Then I take back what I said.

02:08:27.000 If John says that, what John says is word.

02:08:30.000 It's word.

02:08:30.000 I will not argue with John McCarthy, ever.

02:08:32.000 He explained it to me in no uncertain terms.

02:08:35.000 He said, but listen, man, I feel like he got away with something.

02:08:37.000 He goes, and every fight after that, I watched him like a hawk.

02:08:42.000 He goes, I felt like he got away with something in that fight.

02:08:44.000 It fucked Tim over no matter what happened.

02:08:45.000 He stayed on his stool.

02:08:46.000 He did stay on his stool.

02:08:47.000 I mean, there was 30 seconds.

02:08:47.000 Why wouldn't you, though?

02:08:48.000 If no one's getting on the stool, I'm like, I'm chilling.

02:08:50.000 There was 30 extra seconds.

02:08:52.000 30 extra seconds is significant.

02:08:54.000 It's everything.

02:08:56.000 It's huge.

02:08:56.000 But then he had a good point.

02:08:58.000 He had a good point.

02:08:59.000 That's a good everything, dude.

02:09:00.000 Thank you.

02:09:01.000 Tim, at one point, was holding his wrist.

02:09:04.000 He had cuffed his glove.

02:09:05.000 He was holding his glove.

02:09:06.000 You mean what happens in every fight?

02:09:07.000 Right.

02:09:07.000 He hit him with a punch, and that was the punch that hurt him.

02:09:09.000 Yes.

02:09:10.000 So he has an argument.

02:09:12.000 You're right, it happens at every fight, but it's not supposed to happen, right?

02:09:15.000 It's not something you're supposed to do.

02:09:16.000 Now, Tim was in full barbaric rage when this was happening, when he was throwing these punches.

02:09:22.000 He cares about grappling with him.

02:09:23.000 He recognized that he was grabbing.

02:09:24.000 He was fucking throwing bombs.

02:09:26.000 Who knows what was it?

02:09:26.000 He's fighting the most athletic guy for sure he's ever fought.

02:09:29.000 I mean, he was in a bad state in that fight.

02:09:31.000 I mean, that was a fight.

02:09:32.000 Tim had that one, too.

02:09:34.000 He was fighting a guy who was like, Jesus Christ.

02:09:36.000 Tim had it won.

02:09:36.000 Yeah.

02:09:37.000 Yoel Romero.

02:09:38.000 Such a freak.

02:09:39.000 Freak.

02:09:40.000 Such a freak.

02:09:41.000 Super freak.

02:09:41.000 Beat Kelsey Anderson twice in the world champion.

02:09:43.000 I mean, he's...

02:09:43.000 Super freak.

02:09:45.000 I think you won that Whitaker fight, all due respect.

02:09:49.000 No, not a chance.

02:09:50.000 How dare you?

02:09:51.000 I think you won two.

02:09:51.000 It'd be a draw.

02:09:52.000 No, if you think he won, and you go to 10-8 rounds, if you look at it, it'd be a draw.

02:09:57.000 If he won two rounds 10-8, is it a draw?

02:10:00.000 Brian doesn't count.

02:10:01.000 What were you saying?

02:10:02.000 He won two rounds 10-8.

02:10:04.000 No, no.

02:10:04.000 I give him one round 10-8.

02:10:05.000 One round 10-8.

02:10:06.000 But he hurt him badly in both of those rounds, right?

02:10:09.000 Yeah.

02:10:09.000 But one was like 10. I'm like, damn, that's 10-8.

02:10:11.000 So that'd be a draw.

02:10:12.000 One for sure, but he didn't get it even in one.

02:10:14.000 Which is fucked up.

02:10:15.000 But there's an argument that he got it in two.

02:10:17.000 Because in two rounds, he had him badly hurt.

02:10:19.000 The one was awful.

02:10:20.000 The one was awful.

02:10:21.000 It depends what you want to call it 10-8.

02:10:22.000 So let's say you give the one 10-8.

02:10:23.000 So let's say it's a draw, whatever.

02:10:25.000 Robert Wicker, the first one, beat him, right?

02:10:27.000 We don't say he beat him.

02:10:27.000 He did it with one leg.

02:10:29.000 And then this one, he beat him with one arm.

02:10:32.000 Whitaker, no doubt.

02:10:33.000 He broke his hand!

02:10:34.000 That's right!

02:10:35.000 In the first round!

02:10:36.000 God, that's right!

02:10:37.000 Straight up beast.

02:10:37.000 That's incredible!

02:10:38.000 One arm, one leg.

02:10:40.000 You're right, dude.

02:10:40.000 Beat Yoel!

02:10:41.000 You're right, that's a good point.

02:10:43.000 That's insane!

02:10:43.000 You know what?

02:10:43.000 It survived Yoel clanging on his jaw.

02:10:46.000 Yoel hit him with some bombs in that second fight.

02:10:49.000 I don't have a problem getting a 10-8 on that one.

02:10:50.000 That's a good point.

02:10:51.000 I think it was the fourth round.

02:10:53.000 Yeah, Whitaker's a beast.

02:10:55.000 I forgot about that.

02:10:56.000 And still getting better.

02:10:57.000 Whitaker's only 26. Such a beast.

02:10:59.000 Here's the problem, though.

02:10:59.000 He gets injured all the time.

02:11:01.000 But who is he fighting?

02:11:02.000 He's fighting a brick wall.

02:11:04.000 He fought a brick wall twice.

02:11:05.000 Literally a brick wall.

02:11:06.000 But the problem is he's fighting, so he can't, you know what I'm saying?

02:11:09.000 So when you're going through that rehabbing of broken bones, you're not getting that much better in between.

02:11:14.000 Yes, but it's entirely possible that with a broken hand, he can work his kicks, he can work a lot of different things.

02:11:21.000 For sure.

02:11:21.000 With a broken hand, he's not going to have the same issues that he had with a knee.

02:11:24.000 See, with a knee, you've got mobility compromises, you have a real hard time training.

02:11:27.000 Knee, you're not training.

02:11:31.000 He's young and he could still, I mean look what he's doing in the fight.

02:11:35.000 He was throwing combinations with the left.

02:11:36.000 How about his kicks?

02:11:37.000 No, his kicks are phenomenal.

02:11:38.000 He went, Yoel, you want to fuck up my knee with those kicks?

02:11:40.000 I'm going right at you, bitch.

02:11:41.000 Shut these out.

02:11:41.000 I'm going to try that.

02:11:42.000 He fucked his knees up.

02:11:43.000 And he fucked his knees up really early in the fight.

02:11:45.000 Like right from the jump.

02:11:46.000 He was using that oblique kick on the front leg side kick.

02:11:49.000 Now you got Yo versus Boracina.

02:11:53.000 Boracina.

02:11:54.000 I would never wear clothes if I had a body like that, yeah!

02:11:58.000 Paul Acosta got mad at my boy Kelly Slater.

02:12:01.000 Well, why?

02:12:02.000 Because Kelly was like, I don't think he passed the sniff test.

02:12:06.000 Oh, you mean...

02:12:07.000 What are the chances for a rematch of that?

02:12:10.000 Whitaker and Stephen Thompson?

02:12:12.000 Well, Stephen Thompson just lost to Till.

02:12:15.000 So unless Stephen Thompson goes up to 185, I don't think it's going to happen.

02:12:20.000 Because Stephen Thompson is at 170. And Stephen could do it.

02:12:24.000 He could go up to 185, for sure.

02:12:26.000 And the cue at welterweight's a nightmare.

02:12:28.000 So if he wanted to get a quick title shot, he'd have to win one.

02:12:31.000 He did knock Robert Whitaker out.

02:12:33.000 But I think you can attribute that...

02:12:34.000 Yeah, I think you attribute some of that to the brutal weight cut.

02:12:37.000 You know, we're seeing these guys that are, they're just taking so much out of their body to get to 170. That's why people get so fucking angry when someone misses weight by a couple pounds and still fights, like Darren Till.

02:12:50.000 So here's the argument against Darren Till fighting for the title.

02:12:53.000 He beat Steven Wonderboy, but how many pounds over was he?

02:12:56.000 A lot.

02:12:57.000 A lot.

02:12:57.000 It was more than two, right?

02:12:59.000 Way more.

02:12:59.000 Yeah.

02:12:59.000 Was it six?

02:13:00.000 It's crazy.

02:13:01.000 It's a lot.

02:13:02.000 I don't think it was that much.

02:13:03.000 But it was a lot of weight.

02:13:04.000 It was more than two pounds.

02:13:05.000 That is a lot of weight to lose when you're already dried out.

02:13:08.000 And he's an enormous welterweight.

02:13:09.000 That's his advantage.

02:13:10.000 The argument should be, if we're in a fair world, if you do not make weight and you win, you cannot fight for the title next.

02:13:18.000 What world are you living in?

02:13:19.000 Right.

02:13:20.000 The problem with that is, financially, that sucks because I want these guys to fight.

02:13:23.000 Sure.

02:13:23.000 Right?

02:13:24.000 And as a fan, it sucks because I want these guys to fight.

02:13:27.000 But from the perspective of the athletes, you've got to think, like, man...

02:13:30.000 And so this brings me back to my original premise.

02:13:33.000 I don't think they should be able to cut weight.

02:13:35.000 I think what they're doing at 1FC and what Ben Askren detailed, how they monitored his weight cuts.

02:13:41.000 Move everybody's championship up a weight.

02:13:43.000 You keep the same champions.

02:13:44.000 You find out what fucking weight is the right weight for them.

02:13:48.000 Great fucking idea.

02:13:48.000 If a guy's 70, nope, your real weight is 185.

02:13:51.000 If a guy's 185, nope, your real weight is 12.

02:13:53.000 People would still adjust.

02:13:54.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

02:13:55.000 No, they don't allow them to.

02:13:57.000 They do hydration tests through their entire camp.

02:13:59.000 They check them multiple times.

02:14:01.000 They find out exactly what they weigh.

02:14:02.000 They find out what they really weigh plus hydration tests.

02:14:05.000 Damn!

02:14:05.000 Yes, they're not cutting weight.

02:14:06.000 That makes sense.

02:14:07.000 So there's no weight classes?

02:14:08.000 They go up.

02:14:09.000 You go up a weight class.

02:14:10.000 So everyone just goes up.

02:14:11.000 He went up to 185. He was fighting at 170 before.

02:14:14.000 Make sure that's correct.

02:14:16.000 He's better for your body, better for your career.

02:14:19.000 He was 170. But I believe they gave him the title.

02:14:23.000 He kept his title.

02:14:24.000 So you don't strip the champions.

02:14:25.000 You just move the champions up.

02:14:27.000 It's healthier for everyone.

02:14:28.000 100%.

02:14:29.000 And I think they should establish additional weight classes.

02:14:31.000 So what does it say here?

02:14:33.000 Result event day.

02:14:35.000 Okay.

02:14:35.000 We will not allow our athletes to compete dehydrated, Rich Franklin said.

02:14:41.000 Powerful Rich Franklin.

02:14:42.000 But if they happen to be overweight, if they're hydrated but maybe half a pound over, something like that, we can negotiate a catch weight and we have parameters for that.

02:14:50.000 We have to at least 105% of their opponent's weight.

02:14:55.000 Oh, they have to be at least 105% of their opponent's weight.

02:14:57.000 So they can't be more than 5% over is what he's saying.

02:14:59.000 Damn.

02:15:00.000 Yeah.

02:15:00.000 They're smart.

02:15:01.000 I like that a lot.

02:15:02.000 He said, we use an instrument to test the specific gravity of their urine, which tests how much solutes are in their urine.

02:15:09.000 He continued, obviously, the more solutes you have, the more dehydrated you are.

02:15:14.000 So they have dehydration tests, so they establish that a fighter is performing at a healthy weight.

02:15:19.000 They weigh in at that weight.

02:15:20.000 They're weighing in at that weight on more than one occasion.

02:15:23.000 They're checking it.

02:15:23.000 It should be easier.

02:15:24.000 It's just better for you, man.

02:15:26.000 Franklin knows a lot about this, too.

02:15:27.000 He certainly does.

02:15:28.000 He was enormous.

02:15:29.000 He was a big 205-er.

02:15:30.000 He was an 85er.

02:15:31.000 He was an enormous 185er.

02:15:32.000 Both.

02:15:33.000 When he was the champ.

02:15:34.000 He was so much bigger than David Loazzo and a lot of the guys who fought.

02:15:37.000 So he knows a lot about weight cuts.

02:15:38.000 And he was a fitness phenomenon.

02:15:40.000 Math teacher.

02:15:41.000 He was like one of the guys that was one of the first super fucking conditioned guys.

02:15:46.000 Right.

02:15:46.000 Who would just break guys with his pace and his will.

02:15:49.000 Looked like Jim Caron.

02:15:49.000 His discipline.

02:15:50.000 He's a beast.

02:15:51.000 Rich Franklin doesn't get enough credit.

02:15:52.000 He was a beast.

02:15:53.000 Because we see, because we remember him from the Anderson Bites.

02:15:57.000 Really?

02:15:57.000 God.

02:15:58.000 But for most of us, most of us have heard about him when we saw him just have to deal with that, the best of all time.

02:16:05.000 Unsolvable problem at the time.

02:16:06.000 Well, when Anderson, when he fought Anderson back then.

02:16:09.000 He hit his body, though.

02:16:10.000 Didn't he look like Jim Carrey?

02:16:11.000 He was a stud.

02:16:12.000 Yeah, he did.

02:16:13.000 When he fought Anderson, at that point in time, Anderson was the best of all time.

02:16:18.000 He was a ninja.

02:16:20.000 And how about they were like, Rich, we need you to fight Anderson.

02:16:22.000 Listen, you need to do it again, but we're doing Cincinnati in front of all your friends and family.

02:16:26.000 I remember when he was grabbing him with that Muaytac clinch and he couldn't get out.

02:16:30.000 Remember his nose?

02:16:32.000 Rich Franklin is one of the all-time greats.

02:16:34.000 He's one of the reasons I got into it.

02:16:36.000 The brown and pink.

02:16:37.000 He had a different strategy.

02:16:39.000 His strategy was to be super strong, super in condition, very highly skilled, but not at the same level of Anderson.

02:16:44.000 Anderson's thing was all technical.

02:16:47.000 Anderson was all about technique and footwork and movement, and that trumps everything.

02:16:51.000 It really does.

02:16:51.000 He's kind of a nerd.

02:16:52.000 Tiago Alves told me that he's like, the dude, because he knew him really well.

02:16:57.000 He was a martial arts nerd.

02:17:01.000 He would practice.

02:17:02.000 Remember that one weird thing where he did his elbow up and knocked the guy out?

02:17:05.000 He'd been practicing that.

02:17:07.000 Apparently, according to Tiago, he'd been practicing that.

02:17:09.000 He was always doing this.

02:17:10.000 Like, I wonder if this would work.

02:17:11.000 I mean, he's just really creative.

02:17:12.000 No, no, worse than this.

02:17:12.000 Worse than this.

02:17:13.000 His fucking trainer told him to stop doing it because it's not going to work.

02:17:17.000 So he makes his wife hold a pillow for him.

02:17:19.000 So he goes home and he's fucking blasting the pillow with this upward elbow.

02:17:23.000 He does it over and over again and then pulls it off in the fight and knocks him dead with it.

02:17:26.000 It's a crazy, crazy scene.

02:17:29.000 You ever see his fight with Lee Murray and Cage Warriors?

02:17:33.000 Holy shit!

02:17:34.000 Holy shit!

02:17:35.000 You know, he was going to retire until Big Nog told him, like, you can't stop.

02:17:38.000 Come to the UFC. He was catching his stride in England.

02:17:41.000 See, he fought very well in Japan, but then really came into his own in England.

02:17:45.000 He fought Jorge Rivera.

02:17:47.000 Do you remember Jorge Rivera?

02:17:48.000 He fought Jorge Rivera, and Jorge was teeing off on him.

02:17:50.000 He was letting Jorge punch him in the face, and then he fucked him up.

02:17:53.000 It was one of the scariest fights I've ever seen.

02:17:55.000 I'm like, I don't know what the fuck he was doing back then, but Anderson was on another level.

02:18:00.000 Because Anderson in pride wasn't like this crazy super...

02:18:03.000 He was always dangerous.

02:18:03.000 That's why he was going to retire.

02:18:04.000 He was always dangerous.

02:18:05.000 Always skillful, but it was never like...

02:18:08.000 Crazy Hall of Famer.

02:18:09.000 I was watching him fight from the fights that I was watching from England.

02:18:13.000 As a hardcore fan, especially back then, I knew that there was a lot of talent that I wasn't seeing in the UFC when I was working for the UFC. So I was actively trying to seek out all the guys and people that I would hear about.

02:18:25.000 And I remember watching some of the Anderson fights.

02:18:27.000 I was like, oh, this guy's hit a new place.

02:18:29.000 Because guys do that, man.

02:18:31.000 You'll see a fighter, and they're really good, they're really good, they're really good, and then all of a sudden, Boom!

02:18:35.000 They hit that groove.

02:18:37.000 Sometimes there are certain pockets of coaching that seem...

02:18:41.000 New Zealand has high-level strikers.

02:18:44.000 Right now, for sure, with Stylebender and with Dan Hooker.

02:18:48.000 Dan Hooker.

02:18:49.000 Here's him versus...

02:18:50.000 Watch this.

02:18:51.000 He's letting him hit him.

02:18:52.000 Look at this.

02:18:53.000 He's holding on to him, and Jorge's hitting him, and hitting him, and hitting him.

02:18:56.000 Look at that.

02:18:56.000 Boom!

02:18:57.000 And he's like, bitch...

02:18:58.000 This is not happening.

02:18:59.000 You ain't hurting me.

02:19:00.000 You're standing right in front of him.

02:19:01.000 I mean, he literally let him punch him in the face and just rolled with him.

02:19:04.000 Then how about when he comes to the UFC, they're like, hey, Chris Lieben, fight this Brazilian.

02:19:09.000 Chris is like, what?

02:19:10.000 But it's crazy how calm he was while Jorge was knocking people out, man.

02:19:15.000 He has big power.

02:19:16.000 The fact that Anderson was so skillful that he was able to just turn his face just slightly and move with those punches, just enough to take the pop off of him and completely ruin his confidence.

02:19:27.000 And then he just starts putting it on him, man.

02:19:29.000 He just started putting it on him.

02:19:30.000 Prime Anderson, you remember how electric he was coming to the octagons?

02:19:34.000 This was a fight that really turned it around for me.

02:19:36.000 This and the Lee Murray fight.

02:19:37.000 There were two fights where I was like, okay, he's in a different place right now.

02:19:40.000 You know, he just was so fucking talented and so good at judging distance and figuring out what to do and when to do it.

02:19:49.000 And when he fought Damien Maia in Abu Dhabi, it was a boring-ass fucking fight.

02:19:53.000 But there was something in the first round that he did where I was like, wait, what?

02:19:58.000 He leaped and he hit Damien Maia with a flying knee from about...

02:20:02.000 Four or five feet further away than I thought was possible.

02:20:06.000 Dude, I will never forget.

02:20:08.000 He launched himself in the air.

02:20:10.000 He was so talented, and it didn't look like it was much effort.

02:20:13.000 Nothing.

02:20:14.000 When he knocked out Vitor with that fucking front kick, remember?

02:20:17.000 It was the first time we kind of saw someone get fucking starts from that main event.

02:20:21.000 I remember I was sitting basically cage-side.

02:20:24.000 My manager, Lex, was with me, and he has a bad eye.

02:20:26.000 He's basically blind.

02:20:27.000 He can't see out of his eye.

02:20:28.000 And it happens.

02:20:29.000 I go, that's the craziest thing I've ever seen in sports.

02:20:33.000 He goes, what happened?

02:20:34.000 I go, what?

02:20:36.000 You fucking missed that.

02:20:38.000 I go, I didn't see it.

02:20:39.000 I didn't see it.

02:20:39.000 I'm like, you should not be here.

02:20:41.000 I love Lex.

02:20:42.000 You wasted this fucking ticket, Lex.

02:20:44.000 I remember screaming.

02:20:47.000 He front kicked him in the face.

02:20:48.000 That's the best sporting event live I've ever seen.

02:20:52.000 So crazy.

02:20:53.000 It was just this...

02:20:57.000 Like, SMACK! And it was also one of those fights where you didn't know who the fuck was gonna win that fight.

02:21:01.000 That fight was crazy.

02:21:02.000 Remember what Vitor that was, too.

02:21:03.000 That was pretty jacked up Vitor.

02:21:06.000 No, no, no, no.

02:21:07.000 It wasn't Vitor now.

02:21:08.000 It wasn't bodied up the way he was after that fight.

02:21:10.000 It wasn't super Vitor, but it was Vitor Vitor.

02:21:12.000 Let's see what he looked like.

02:21:13.000 Well, he wasn't damaged.

02:21:14.000 You wonder what Yoel Romero was like?

02:21:16.000 Look at it.

02:21:17.000 Look at it.

02:21:17.000 His body's nowhere near the Vitor that Rockhold fight.

02:21:20.000 Dude, he looks pretty good, though.

02:21:21.000 No, no, no.

02:21:22.000 No, no, no, no.

02:21:23.000 Watch the fight.

02:21:24.000 Back it up a little bit.

02:21:25.000 Watch them actually move around.

02:21:27.000 Before the knockout.

02:21:28.000 That's all it is?

02:21:29.000 Go to the weigh-ins, Jamie.

02:21:32.000 I remember very specifically.

02:21:33.000 That was the same look that he had when he fought Takeyama.

02:21:38.000 For sure.

02:21:38.000 Which wasn't terrible.

02:21:40.000 No, no, no.

02:21:40.000 It was.

02:21:40.000 Compared to now.

02:21:41.000 It was.

02:21:42.000 In comparison to how he looked when he fought Bisping.

02:21:46.000 You're talking about wheel kick?

02:21:47.000 Yeah.

02:21:48.000 Wheel kick Vitor was a different Vitor.

02:21:50.000 What is this?

02:21:50.000 Which one's this?

02:21:51.000 See?

02:21:52.000 Very smooth.

02:21:53.000 This is not...

02:21:54.000 He doesn't look anything like TRT Vitor.

02:21:56.000 Look at his neck.

02:21:57.000 Look at his body.

02:21:58.000 His traps are a little small.

02:21:58.000 Yeah.

02:21:59.000 Obviously...

02:21:59.000 He's still about 1,400 grams.

02:22:01.000 Look at him.

02:22:01.000 Not even close, dude.

02:22:02.000 He's pretty jacked, though.

02:22:03.000 I mean, he's in very good shape.

02:22:04.000 Don't get me wrong.

02:22:05.000 But no, he's not TRT Vitor.

02:22:07.000 Yeah.

02:22:07.000 You know who beat TRT Vitor at his prime?

02:22:10.000 Who?

02:22:10.000 Jon Jones.

02:22:10.000 Yes, he did.

02:22:11.000 But Jon Jones is enormous.

02:22:13.000 So much better.

02:22:14.000 Still, though.

02:22:14.000 Look at this.

02:22:15.000 Hey, Vitor almost caught him in a triangle.

02:22:16.000 He's doing the trapping thing with the hands.

02:22:17.000 Look at Anderson.

02:22:19.000 Anderson was doing like Wing Chun on him and shit.

02:22:21.000 But remember people were booing.

02:22:22.000 Because these guys were just moving around.

02:22:23.000 And we're like, come on, let's do something then.

02:22:26.000 Hit cow!

02:22:26.000 He's looking for the move, man.

02:22:28.000 He's looking for that opening.

02:22:29.000 He's looking for that opening, and he's smiling.

02:22:32.000 He's smiling.

02:22:33.000 Watch him look down, too.

02:22:34.000 That's the other thing.

02:22:35.000 He did that old move that guys would look down at your feet and kick you in the head.

02:22:38.000 Was it Anderson 6'2 or 6'3", we think?

02:22:40.000 6'3", I believe.

02:22:41.000 6'3", yeah.

02:22:42.000 Tall.

02:22:42.000 Yeah, he almost got starched here, too.

02:22:44.000 Man, Vitor was throwing some fucking haymakers under on the ground.

02:22:47.000 Dude, how great is Vitor, though?

02:22:47.000 Vitor's a monster!

02:22:49.000 The best!

02:22:49.000 A monster.

02:22:50.000 See, this Vitor is very fit, very good in shape Vitor, but not TRT Vitor.

02:22:55.000 Once they gave him the green light and then he didn't have to worry about testing, he was like, yee-haw!

02:22:59.000 He put a thousand horsepower engine in a Volkswagen and drove off a cliff.

02:23:05.000 He's like, let's do this!

02:23:06.000 Boom!

02:23:06.000 There it is.

02:23:07.000 There it is.

02:23:08.000 Come on, son.

02:23:10.000 Came out of nowhere.

02:23:11.000 Then one-two'd him.

02:23:12.000 Look at that again.

02:23:13.000 Watch this.

02:23:14.000 They did not need the one-two, but yeah.

02:23:15.000 Look how he's looking at his chest, too.

02:23:17.000 Oh, yeah.

02:23:18.000 Totally deceptive.

02:23:19.000 Yep.

02:23:19.000 He looked at his chest and front-kicked him in the chin.

02:23:21.000 And that was literally the first time we'd ever seen a front-kick to the face KO like that.

02:23:24.000 Jaw-dropping.

02:23:25.000 There's only two moments that made my jaw drop.

02:23:27.000 That, Anthony Pettis jumping off the kick.

02:23:29.000 And then remember when Leota Machida did the same thing to Randy Couture, but he did it with a jumping front-kick.

02:23:33.000 Knocked his teeth out, too.

02:23:34.000 No, he did it karate-style.

02:23:35.000 Yes, karate kid.

02:23:36.000 Knocked the old teeth out.

02:23:37.000 That was disrespectful.

02:23:38.000 And then Leota...

02:23:42.000 And then Liotto did it to fucking Vitor and was like, this is your last go around.

02:23:46.000 This is your last one.

02:23:47.000 Very cool.

02:23:48.000 Let me show you something.

02:23:49.000 Look at this.

02:23:49.000 Same shit.

02:23:50.000 He's doing the fucking...

02:23:51.000 Look at that, dude.

02:23:52.000 That is crazy.

02:23:53.000 Here's a little fact for you.

02:23:54.000 I got Randy Couture ready for this fight the night before.

02:23:58.000 I told Mitts and mimicked Liotto Machida.

02:24:00.000 One thing I didn't mimic was the fucking karate kick.

02:24:04.000 Yeah, that was always the scariest thing.

02:24:07.000 He kicked his fucking tooth out.

02:24:08.000 You know how disrespectful that is?

02:24:10.000 I know, and I said, holy shit.

02:24:12.000 I go, he kicked his tooth out.

02:24:13.000 Dana goes, well, buy him some more teeth.

02:24:15.000 And I said, dude, he's Randy Gotore.

02:24:17.000 I want some shit with diamonds in it.

02:24:19.000 Get him some with diamonds.

02:24:20.000 That's awful.

02:24:21.000 Insane.

02:24:22.000 But you know what's worse than this one?

02:24:24.000 When he knocked out Vitor this last fight, that's the worst front kick you've ever seen.

02:24:28.000 What was perfect?

02:24:28.000 It's a walk-off home run.

02:24:30.000 And this is what's disrespectful.

02:24:31.000 I know he's being polite.

02:24:32.000 He goes, and fucking Vitor just falls down and he gets on his knees and prays.

02:24:36.000 Yeah, watch this.

02:24:37.000 But watch how perfect it is, too.

02:24:39.000 Watch how quick.

02:24:40.000 Boop!

02:24:40.000 Oh, quick!

02:24:42.000 See, like, stands over him and then, my brother.

02:24:45.000 Thank you for your time in the cage.

02:24:48.000 I'd rather you just walk off and jump on the cage with your dick out.

02:24:51.000 What a fucking samurai he is!

02:24:53.000 That is a crazy front kick, though.

02:24:55.000 And it's the same thing.

02:24:56.000 Left side front kick.

02:24:58.000 Well, you know Liotta and Anderson are partners in crime, right?

02:25:00.000 Yeah, back that up again.

02:25:01.000 Let me see something.

02:25:03.000 Oh, come on.

02:25:04.000 How cool is this?

02:25:05.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

02:25:05.000 Not if your V tour is not.

02:25:08.000 The thing about the front kick is, man, if it's going to the face, it's such a different thing than if it's going to the chest.

02:25:14.000 Don't battle me like that after you fucking knock my head off.

02:25:17.000 When it's going to the chest, you're looking to move away with it, but it's going to the face as you're standing there.

02:25:22.000 And it's like a...

02:25:23.000 Yeah, and a lot of times when guys would take it to the body, what they would do is almost move with it a little bit.

02:25:31.000 Try to move with it, but that doesn't help you if it goes up to your chin.

02:25:35.000 Lyoto's just that career-ender, like, this is your last fight.

02:25:37.000 Very cool, Randy.

02:25:38.000 Check this out.

02:25:39.000 Hey, Kel!

02:25:40.000 Vitor, this is your last one?

02:25:42.000 Let's try this.

02:25:43.000 And Munoz.

02:25:44.000 How about Mark Munoz?

02:25:45.000 Munoz was terrible.

02:25:45.000 That was terrible.

02:25:46.000 Munoz, we need to take this fight on short notice.

02:25:48.000 185. And we've all been trained together.

02:25:50.000 Lyoto, me, and Mark were all trained together.

02:25:52.000 Super jacked one, too.

02:25:54.000 And fly to London.

02:25:54.000 Yeah, but look how Jack Leota was then.

02:25:57.000 That was Leota's first spin at 185. Let's take a look at that again.

02:26:01.000 He's such a good guy.

02:26:01.000 Yeah, he's a great guy.

02:26:03.000 He had a perfect opportunity.

02:26:05.000 So is Mark Mooney.

02:26:05.000 First of all, those two are the best men I know that have entered that octagon.

02:26:09.000 Great men.

02:26:10.000 They're both the nice guys.

02:26:11.000 You trained with them for a long time.

02:26:12.000 Both those were my training partners.

02:26:13.000 Damn, that's amazing.

02:26:14.000 For three years.

02:26:15.000 Amazing head kick.

02:26:15.000 Yeah, those guys, I saw you roll with them.

02:26:17.000 Yeah.

02:26:18.000 Lyoto was such an unusual fighter, so difficult to deal with.

02:26:21.000 I remember four years ago, three years ago, we were in the locker room, we had done training, just had this brutal training session at Black House, and I go, how much longer are you going to do this shit, man?

02:26:29.000 And he goes, six years.

02:26:31.000 I went, get the fuck out of it!

02:26:33.000 You don't have six years where we're laughing.

02:26:35.000 He's like, well, for sure I do.

02:26:37.000 That motherfucker has longer than six.

02:26:38.000 Well, now that he's in Bellator, he's on an extended warranty.

02:26:41.000 Yeah, he got a new warranty for fucking keys on Van Nuys.

02:26:45.000 It's incredible.

02:26:46.000 He can keep it rolling, bro.

02:26:48.000 Is Chuck actually going to fight Tito, or is that going to happen?

02:26:50.000 That's happening.

02:26:52.000 Is that really going to happen though?

02:26:54.000 Listen, they said that it's going to happen, but there's no venue picked out.

02:26:57.000 He's got a passport.

02:26:59.000 Dana's very, very concerned about it.

02:27:01.000 A lot of people are concerned.

02:27:02.000 Dana said publicly that there's a reason why he asked Chuck to retire nine years ago.

02:27:09.000 He doesn't think it's right, and he wouldn't put the fight on himself.

02:27:13.000 I mean, whoever would put the fight on would make a shitload of money.

02:27:16.000 Credit to them for not wanting to do it, because Dana cares about Chuck, but Chuck wants a fight.

02:27:20.000 So, yeah, how are you going to stop him?

02:27:22.000 How are you going to stop him?

02:27:23.000 If he goes, I want to fight, and Oscar medically can.

02:27:26.000 Medically.

02:27:26.000 The thing is, whoever the board, I mean, I don't know what his medical condition is.

02:27:30.000 You have to check.

02:27:32.000 How do they check that?

02:27:32.000 That's a good question.

02:27:33.000 It's a good question.

02:27:34.000 Well, you have CAT scans, you have MRIs.

02:27:35.000 It all depends on where they're going to do it, too.

02:27:37.000 I highly doubt they do it in LA. Or Nevada.

02:27:41.000 Anaheim, Nevada, or New York.

02:27:44.000 No, it's going to be on an Indian reservation or some shit.

02:27:46.000 Like Tacoma fucking Indian reservation or some shit.

02:27:49.000 Right.

02:27:50.000 Tacoma.

02:27:50.000 Is that real?

02:27:51.000 I made that up, guys.

02:27:52.000 Fucking disrespectful.

02:27:54.000 He goes, like, Tacoma fucking Indian reservation.

02:27:58.000 Sorry to all the Indians out there.

02:28:01.000 I'm like sitting there going...

02:28:03.000 They'll do it at Foxwoods or something.

02:28:05.000 Tacoma.

02:28:06.000 Yeah, Foxwoods.

02:28:07.000 That's what I was looking for.

02:28:09.000 Foxwoods.

02:28:10.000 No, Foxwoods.

02:28:11.000 Yeah, they'll do it at Foxwoods.

02:28:12.000 They put up big fights at Foxwoods.

02:28:14.000 You know, and obviously...

02:28:16.000 You know, you're dealing with Oscar De La Hoya's long history of promoting.

02:28:19.000 He knows where he can get away with what and what they can do.

02:28:22.000 But the thing is, will they do that or will they give them some real examinations and find out how Chuck's doing?

02:28:29.000 Tito's good to go.

02:28:30.000 He's been fighting recently.

02:28:31.000 He's been winning recently.

02:28:32.000 Smart guy.

02:28:33.000 Tito's good to go.

02:28:34.000 He's fine.

02:28:34.000 You talk to Tito.

02:28:35.000 I talked to Tito real recently.

02:28:36.000 I have Tito on my show like every week.

02:28:38.000 He's 100% there.

02:28:39.000 He's the best.

02:28:39.000 He's there.

02:28:40.000 I love Tito.

02:28:41.000 He's a good guy, man.

02:28:42.000 He's a good guy.

02:28:42.000 Really good guy.

02:28:43.000 We have an impression of Tito that a lot of it is based on his interactions with other people, his fights with other people.

02:28:48.000 That's so stupid.

02:28:48.000 But also, that's a product of the times with him because he was this badass, the Huntington Beach bad boy.

02:28:54.000 There was no podcasting.

02:28:56.000 There was no social media.

02:28:57.000 He's also changed.

02:28:57.000 There's no podcasting.

02:28:59.000 You didn't get to know him.

02:29:00.000 No.

02:29:00.000 So if Tito came on, if Tito at the time was as big as he is, and he came on your podcast, he'd been even better Bigger!

02:29:06.000 Because you go, oh my god, I love that guy.

02:29:08.000 He's a good guy.

02:29:08.000 I love that guy.

02:29:09.000 He did come on my podcast many, many years ago.

02:29:10.000 But he'd already retired.

02:29:12.000 Yeah, he retired.

02:29:12.000 I'm saying if he came and went during his heyday, his 100 Beach bad boy, and you were as big as you are now with this podcast, and you got his story out, oh my god.

02:29:20.000 Well, people get to see people and they have an idea who that person is.

02:29:24.000 Like, Kevin Lee's a perfect example.

02:29:26.000 Great guy.

02:29:26.000 People have this great guy, super smart.

02:29:29.000 Super tuned in, super ambitious, fucking amazing fighter, and young as shit.

02:29:34.000 Massive, massive potential.

02:29:35.000 But people saw him on the podcast, got to hear him talk for three hours, and he's super honest about everything.

02:29:41.000 And articulate, smart, outgoing.

02:29:43.000 And great control of his ego.

02:29:45.000 He's not a maniac.

02:29:46.000 He's like a really bare guy.

02:29:47.000 Yeah, because in sound bites, you get such a different impression of certain people.

02:29:51.000 Especially in those interviews, man.

02:29:52.000 Those interviews, the guy's like, tell me what you're going to do to your opponent.

02:29:54.000 Yeah.

02:29:54.000 I'm going to fuck him up.

02:29:55.000 By the time I ride, when I rock off the scale and I'm energized, what are you going to do to him?

02:30:00.000 You're all aggressive.

02:30:01.000 And you're playing a character.

02:30:01.000 You know who I think would grow even bigger as a superstar if they did your podcast?

02:30:07.000 Who?

02:30:07.000 Conor McGregor.

02:30:08.000 Oh, yeah.

02:30:08.000 I've sat down with Conor McGregor.

02:30:09.000 How big can he get?

02:30:10.000 Well, I'm just...

02:30:11.000 No, I think you would get less hate.

02:30:13.000 Obviously, he has all the accolades in the world, and there's the stool or the dolly, all that shit.

02:30:18.000 But as a person, if you sat down and you talked to him, you just didn't get all that hoopla over here.

02:30:23.000 You sat down and talked to him.

02:30:25.000 I think you'd be even bigger.

02:30:26.000 When he retires, you won't get that.

02:30:28.000 Well, we almost did it before.

02:30:30.000 There was some trying to figure out times before he became gigantic, before the Diaz fight, before he won the title.

02:30:37.000 There was some talk about it.

02:30:38.000 You know what, man?

02:30:40.000 For better or for worse, I don't chase anybody.

02:30:42.000 No, I'm not saying that, Joe.

02:30:44.000 I'm not saying you aren't, but I'm saying I know there's some great guests.

02:30:47.000 I know there's some people that I would really like to get on, but if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen.

02:30:52.000 I like having you guys on as much as I like some scientist who flies in from France.

02:30:57.000 I really do.

02:30:58.000 I just like talking to people that are fun, whether it's talking to you guys or talking to...

02:31:03.000 Sure.

02:31:04.000 Whoever the fuck it is.

02:31:04.000 I would like to get Obama on one day.

02:31:06.000 I would like to talk to him.

02:31:07.000 You can.

02:31:07.000 You're getting huge.

02:31:08.000 Maybe.

02:31:09.000 I would like to talk to a lot of people.

02:31:10.000 Would you like to get Trump on?

02:31:12.000 I would talk to him.

02:31:13.000 Why not?

02:31:14.000 When are you going to get real answers, though?

02:31:16.000 As he's a president, you're not.

02:31:17.000 You'll find out if you get real answers.

02:31:19.000 Because did you talk to Maren?

02:31:20.000 Have you talked to Maren about when he had Obama on?

02:31:22.000 No.

02:31:22.000 You had to submit a list of questions, had to okay the questions.

02:31:25.000 And even Maren, you know, he goes, listen, it was great, I'm glad to give him the time, but that's not like a real podcast.

02:31:31.000 There can't be an agenda, and I can't know what I'm going to ask you next.

02:31:35.000 When we come on here, Fight Companions, or our podcast, I have no agenda.

02:31:39.000 I have no idea what we're going to Sure.

02:31:40.000 They have to be concerned that you're going to set them up and make them look bad.

02:31:45.000 That's a problem.

02:31:46.000 There's so much on the line for everything.

02:31:48.000 And when Obama was doing this, Obama was a sitting president.

02:31:51.000 He was about to leave office.

02:31:53.000 And they probably had very strict rules in terms of what they would allow and not allow in terms of interviews.

02:32:00.000 Trump doesn't give a fuck about all that.

02:32:02.000 I guarantee you, he would be more confident and more open to just being able to figure his way through it.

02:32:08.000 Because he wouldn't worry about me outmaneuvering him.

02:32:10.000 He also wouldn't worry about me outmaneuvering him.

02:32:15.000 He's not that guy.

02:32:16.000 He's a smart dude.

02:32:17.000 But also, have you ever heard Trump before he's president on Stern?

02:32:20.000 Yeah.

02:32:20.000 There's some of the greatest interviews.

02:32:21.000 He's hilarious.

02:32:22.000 Well, he was great.

02:32:24.000 But he's also older.

02:32:26.000 And then also the pressure of that gig, and then the pressure of everybody hating him.

02:32:30.000 The whole thing is fine.

02:32:32.000 And I'm not saying this...

02:32:34.000 That he's the greatest guy in the world.

02:32:35.000 But I'm saying, the whole thing is insane.

02:32:38.000 Nobody should be president.

02:32:39.000 Fucking nobody.

02:32:40.000 Such a thankless job.

02:32:41.000 Nobody should have that kind of power.

02:32:42.000 And it's such a dumb move to take that gig at 70. Well, every decision you make, you piss off 50% of the people and you make 50% of the people.

02:32:51.000 And how much time do you have left?

02:32:52.000 No, you're not going to win.

02:32:53.000 How much time do you have left?

02:32:54.000 Do you have 20 years left if everything goes great?

02:32:56.000 It's a nice cherry on the sundae for a guy like that.

02:32:58.000 For sure, with his ego.

02:33:00.000 But also to say, hey, you have four years to accomplish all this.

02:33:03.000 Fuck, four years!

02:33:04.000 Do you know who that John Lucavacci guy is?

02:33:07.000 He's that Italian guy.

02:33:09.000 He does a lot of dancing on the Instagram.

02:33:12.000 Oh, he's the best.

02:33:12.000 He's a super millionaire guy.

02:33:13.000 Silver Fox.

02:33:14.000 Go to his Instagram.

02:33:15.000 He's got a video of him dancing, and there's all these girls with thongs on behind him, bent over with their ass up in the air.

02:33:23.000 So he's an Italian damn Brazilian?

02:33:24.000 That's what you're supposed to be doing when you've got Trump money.

02:33:27.000 What Trump should be doing is fucking be half-naked by the pool, dancing in front of butts.

02:33:32.000 I guess Stern knows...

02:33:33.000 Look at this.

02:33:34.000 I'm going to want you to watch this real quick.

02:33:35.000 This is what, if I was friends with Trump, I would say, listen, bro, I want to be like this guy.

02:33:43.000 By the way, he's younger than me, so he's not that old.

02:33:45.000 No, he's not.

02:33:46.000 Brian, he's older than you.

02:33:47.000 He's 50. 50. Yeah, he's in the neighborhood.

02:33:54.000 So, he's a little wrinkled because he's in the sun every day, but meanwhile, he's doing this every day, too.

02:33:59.000 Look at his awesome ankle bracelets.

02:34:01.000 Dude, look at the bitches in the back.

02:34:04.000 Yeah.

02:34:04.000 Yeah, well, this is the point.

02:34:06.000 This is what I would tell Trump to be doing.

02:34:08.000 Do this, and then watch the girls behind him.

02:34:11.000 Those are life goals.

02:34:12.000 However, I see a lonely man.

02:34:14.000 I gotta start dancing more.

02:34:16.000 I think you're wrong.

02:34:17.000 Look, not lonely.

02:34:19.000 He's happy as shit.

02:34:20.000 He's always laughing, always smiling.

02:34:22.000 Either it's a tremendous act or he is actually a happy rich guy who's banging tens all over the world.

02:34:28.000 That's a legit point, sir.

02:34:30.000 And he's working as a DJ everywhere, and he's got all these videos of him having a great time.

02:34:36.000 Oh, wow.

02:34:37.000 He's killing it, man.

02:34:38.000 Yeah, would you rather be him or Trump?

02:34:41.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:34:41.000 This guy's having a great time with his money.

02:34:43.000 All these people, it's all love and happiness.

02:34:45.000 He's jetting all over the world.

02:34:47.000 I'd rather be doing stand-up.

02:34:48.000 Even Elon Musk.

02:34:49.000 Take notes, bro.

02:34:51.000 Trump is just...

02:34:52.000 You know, he's a guy who wanted to win.

02:34:54.000 Mr. Steel, yo girl!

02:34:56.000 Look at that outfit.

02:34:57.000 Brian, get some fucking tattoos.

02:34:59.000 I gotta get some tats, bro.

02:35:00.000 Salary, bro.

02:35:00.000 That looks like somebody just wrote on him with a magic marker.

02:35:03.000 He's got some bad tattoos, too.

02:35:04.000 He's got a picture of his face on his back going like this.

02:35:07.000 Shush.

02:35:08.000 It's the shut the fuck up tattoo, he says.

02:35:10.000 Dude.

02:35:10.000 It's a very, very unfortunate tattoo.

02:35:14.000 When you're a billionaire, you do where the fuck you want, though.

02:35:16.000 He's a strange cat.

02:35:17.000 By strange, you mean awesome, Brian?

02:35:19.000 Hashtag ballin.

02:35:21.000 Hashtag son and a dick son, right?

02:35:23.000 Pimpin' all over the world.

02:35:25.000 Hashtag G? GV lifestyle.

02:35:27.000 He's got it tattooed on his legs.

02:35:28.000 That's aggressive, but when you're a billionaire...

02:35:30.000 But that's his thing.

02:35:31.000 He's got water there, in case you want to know.

02:35:32.000 He has love on his right tit, because you need love on your right tit.

02:35:35.000 Dude, he's kind of killed it.

02:35:37.000 This is the thing, man.

02:35:38.000 This guy's smiling.

02:35:39.000 Every time I see Trump, he's got a bigger and bigger frown.

02:35:42.000 And he's aging by the day.

02:35:44.000 Of course, man!

02:35:44.000 He's aging like fruit.

02:35:45.000 It's not good.

02:35:46.000 Aging like fruit.

02:35:50.000 Yeah, it's not a fine wine.

02:35:53.000 No.

02:35:54.000 It's not a cheese.

02:35:55.000 It's a peach.

02:35:56.000 The fucking most recent Cohen tapes, Cohen's releasing tapes now of him negotiating about paying off a gal.

02:36:02.000 Yeah, well, they seized those tapes.

02:36:04.000 Cohen's not releasing them.

02:36:06.000 Cohen released them.

02:36:06.000 Cohen released them to CNN. I thought they seized the nine tapes.

02:36:08.000 I believe it's just the department.

02:36:10.000 Oh, they definitely did that, but I believe they said that Cohen released them to CNN. Is that true?

02:36:16.000 See if that's true.

02:36:17.000 Did you see that his wife got busted watching CNN? No.

02:36:20.000 He freaked out because she was on Air Force One watching CNN? Just hating on him?

02:36:24.000 They call it hate-watching.

02:36:25.000 She doesn't enjoy him.

02:36:27.000 Dude, come on, man.

02:36:29.000 It's tough when the Stormy Daniels and the other one comes out.

02:36:33.000 Dude, you know what I want to know?

02:36:35.000 That's true.

02:36:35.000 Who's fucking her?

02:36:37.000 Where's that dude at?

02:36:38.000 She's a beautiful one.

02:36:39.000 Well, she's probably keeping it together for a kid, man.

02:36:41.000 She's got a 10-year-old kid.

02:36:42.000 Here it is.

02:36:42.000 Donald Trump erupted with rage when Melania's Air Force One TV was tuned to CNN's leaked email.

02:36:49.000 How crazy is it that the president is in a battle with CNN? That is so fucking insane.

02:36:56.000 Kind of winning.

02:36:56.000 Well, what he's definitely 100% done is damage their reputation among some people.

02:37:02.000 And they kind of deserve it sometimes.

02:37:04.000 Some of the mainstream media deserves, because what happens now is to stay in business, they've got to create clickbait.

02:37:12.000 White House bans network pool reporter from Rose Garden event?

02:37:16.000 She asked him about the Cullen tapes, and she got banned from him.

02:37:20.000 Damn, you can get banned if you ask him questions?

02:37:23.000 How does that work?

02:37:25.000 He's an authoritarian.

02:37:26.000 You have a fucking list of questions?

02:37:28.000 I think the White House has always reserved the right to sort of, you're invited into the press pool, I believe.

02:37:34.000 And I think it's always been that sort of the president's prerogative.

02:37:38.000 There are all these little sneaky things that the executive power has that's kind of granted to the executive.

02:37:43.000 The craziest one is the pardon thing.

02:37:45.000 You can go, yeah, they killed a bunch of people, Brian, but I like you.

02:37:48.000 We like to smoke stogies together.

02:37:50.000 Did you guys listen to I Admit It, the new R. Kelly 19-minute song?

02:37:55.000 I have and I've heard.

02:37:56.000 It's amazing.

02:37:58.000 Is it?

02:37:58.000 It's amazing.

02:37:59.000 Because he talks about it.

02:38:00.000 He peed on a 14-year-old and got away with it.

02:38:03.000 I don't know what happened there.

02:38:05.000 That's supposedly what happened, yeah.

02:38:07.000 But does he admit a lot of it?

02:38:09.000 No, he doesn't admit peeing on anybody or that the video was him.

02:38:13.000 What's he admit?

02:38:15.000 Most of the song is just him talking about all the chicks he banged and about how they took all his money because they made him sign contracts when he was young and he was dyslexic and he couldn't read.

02:38:24.000 He gave away all the rights to his music and talking about all the flaws that he has and How many girls he lied to and how many girls he banged and he goes over.

02:38:34.000 So that whole story about him with the young girl was not true?

02:38:38.000 You ever seen the video?

02:38:39.000 Wait, who said that?

02:38:39.000 Who said that?

02:38:40.000 I don't know.

02:38:40.000 He got off.

02:38:41.000 I mean, I know he was with a 14-year-old.

02:38:43.000 No, just because someone gets off or a jury of their peers doesn't convict them.

02:38:48.000 Yeah, she was paid off, I thought.

02:38:50.000 Who the fuck knows?

02:38:51.000 Yeah, but it does not mean that he didn't do it.

02:38:53.000 Have you seen the video?

02:38:54.000 No.

02:38:54.000 It looks like he did it.

02:38:56.000 No, I've watched him piss on a girl.

02:38:58.000 It certainly looks like it.

02:39:00.000 Here goes.

02:39:00.000 R. Kelly secretly marries 15-year-old Aaliyah 22 years ago today.

02:39:04.000 Yeah.

02:39:05.000 No, no.

02:39:05.000 That was Aaliyah.

02:39:06.000 That was a singer.

02:39:07.000 I know.

02:39:07.000 That was a different thing.

02:39:08.000 That's in the song, too.

02:39:10.000 I don't know if I should shut up.

02:39:11.000 I shouldn't be.

02:39:12.000 Yeah.

02:39:12.000 Well, that alone is illegal in a lot of places, right?

02:39:16.000 It's also...

02:39:16.000 15 is illegal everywhere in the United States.

02:39:19.000 You mean everywhere, Joe.

02:39:20.000 Today.

02:39:20.000 I think 16 in Vegas is...

02:39:22.000 22 years ago, though, was it?

02:39:24.000 Because that's when it was.

02:39:25.000 I think it was always 16, right?

02:39:26.000 I think 15 seems very young.

02:39:28.000 They kept that under wraps, though.

02:39:29.000 That wasn't public knowledge.

02:39:30.000 I think the age of consent varies in the states and has been different over the last couple decades.

02:39:38.000 And I think 22 years ago, what he did, I don't think it was illegal.

02:39:41.000 Is it Mexico 14?

02:39:43.000 In Mexico, Mexico?

02:39:44.000 Mexico, Mexico.

02:39:45.000 Mexico's probably real young.

02:39:46.000 Is that where he did it?

02:39:47.000 I thought I was 14. Did he do it in Mexico?

02:39:49.000 I would imagine for it to be legal.

02:39:51.000 Well, that's the weird thing, right?

02:39:52.000 Like, if it's illegal in the United States, but it's legal somewhere else, say if you go to Japan or wherever the fuck it's legal, and you get married, and then you come back to the States, can you live as a husband and wife?

02:40:00.000 How the fuck does that work?

02:40:01.000 It's as low as 12. So it's as low as 12?

02:40:04.000 Where?

02:40:04.000 Hold on.

02:40:05.000 Mexico.

02:40:05.000 In Mexico, it's as low as 12. 12?

02:40:07.000 Maybe as low as 12. Can I get a whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop?

02:40:11.000 That's so ridiculous.

02:40:14.000 But, you know, why don't, you know, we need to incorporate them.

02:40:17.000 Stop.

02:40:18.000 Just tell Mexico, listen, we're going to make drugs legal.

02:40:21.000 We're going to pull all the troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq.

02:40:25.000 Send them into Mexico.

02:40:27.000 Clean up all the drug cartel bullshit.

02:40:29.000 But let's cut off the 12-year-old shit.

02:40:30.000 Let's just stop all that.

02:40:33.000 We're neighbors.

02:40:35.000 Keep it respectable.

02:40:37.000 Brian Callen, congratulations on your special.

02:40:39.000 I know you worked very, very hard for this.

02:40:41.000 I'm very proud of you.

02:40:42.000 Thank you.

02:40:42.000 It was awesome to see you gear up for it, to see how fucking fired up you got, and you were doing a lot of touring, and I knew you were constantly doing sets around town and constantly writing on it and working on it and tweaking on it.

02:40:54.000 You could tell.

02:40:55.000 You could tell you were really obsessed with it, man.

02:40:56.000 Thank you, man.

02:40:57.000 It's the best thing I ever did, so I'm happy about it.

02:40:59.000 Well, it better be.

02:41:00.000 Jesus Christ.

02:41:01.000 No, I'm just kidding.

02:41:01.000 Jesus Christ.

02:41:03.000 Thank you, buddy.

02:41:03.000 So what do you do now?

02:41:05.000 So now it's being edited?

02:41:06.000 And then you're going to write some new shit, take some time.

02:41:09.000 It'll take some time.

02:41:10.000 You have one more show.

02:41:12.000 You don't have the whole rest of the year off stand-up, because October, we're doing that big show with All Things Comedy Festival.

02:41:20.000 You, me, Theo, Ari Shaffir, and Big J. All Things Comedy is doing a festival?

02:41:26.000 Yeah.

02:41:27.000 Oh, shit.

02:41:27.000 But we're doing one show on a Saturday night, the weekend before Halloween.

02:41:31.000 In Phoenix?

02:41:32.000 In Phoenix.

02:41:33.000 One show only.

02:41:33.000 What is the date?

02:41:34.000 Tickets just went on sale.

02:41:35.000 That's amazing.

02:41:35.000 It doesn't matter.

02:41:36.000 You're in it.

02:41:37.000 That's beautiful.

02:41:37.000 Right.

02:41:38.000 All right, boys.

02:41:39.000 Yeah, it's going to be fun.

02:41:40.000 Joe Rogan, this was fun.

02:41:41.000 Always the most fun.

02:41:41.000 You're the best, man.

02:41:42.000 No, you're the best.

02:41:42.000 You're the best.

02:41:43.000 Austin, Dallas.

02:41:44.000 Austin, Dallas.

02:41:45.000 First weekends in August.

02:41:48.000 Austin, Dallas.

02:41:49.000 Website for tickets.

02:41:49.000 TVATK.com, son.

02:41:50.000 TVATK.com.

02:41:51.000 And then September 13th, Vancouver.

02:41:52.000 Get them.

02:41:53.000 Yeah.

02:41:53.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - August 21, 2010

JRE MMA Show #36 with Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen

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