The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #41 with TJ Dillashaw & Duane Ludwig

00:00:00.000 You let me know.

00:00:00.000 Oh, cool.

00:00:01.000 Yes, sir.

00:00:02.000 I'm like, okay.

00:00:03.000 I'm like, all right.

00:00:03.000 And then we leave it there.

00:00:05.000 I think you'd be too nervous, yeah, like you said.

00:00:07.000 Boom! 0.99

00:00:07.000 And we're live. 0.99

00:00:09.000 UFC motherfucking battleweight champion, TJ Dillashaw and Dwayne Ludwig. 0.93

00:00:14.000 How you doing, Mr. Hogan? 0.97

00:00:15.000 Master Splinter.

00:00:16.000 What's up, buddy?

00:00:17.000 Good to see you, man.

00:00:17.000 Good to see you.

00:00:18.000 Oh, you got golf shirts now, too. 1.00

00:00:19.000 Look at you, you respectable motherfucker. 1.00

00:00:21.000 I'm 40 now. 1.00

00:00:22.000 Oh, you got to be respectable.

00:00:22.000 You got to step up my game.

00:00:24.000 People walk into the dojo and he's got to look dressed to the nines, you know, looking like it's the job.

00:00:28.000 But there's a warning sign on the wall that says explicit language.

00:00:31.000 Oh, so you let people know. 1.00

00:00:34.000 People are going to be swearing up on this bitch. 1.00

00:00:35.000 Yes, sir. 1.00

00:00:35.000 Line up, motherfuckers. 1.00

00:00:37.000 Let's go. 1.00

00:00:38.000 Bow on the mat first, though.

00:00:39.000 Do you say that when you teach classes?

00:00:41.000 Do you swear during your classes?

00:00:41.000 So I get into it.

00:00:42.000 Yeah, I'm passionate.

00:00:43.000 Yeah, no, you are.

00:00:44.000 You get fired up.

00:00:45.000 Yes, that's why I don't teach the kids.

00:00:47.000 We have a separate room for the kids' classes.

00:00:49.000 That's smart, man.

00:00:51.000 That's so you have a children's program?

00:00:52.000 Yes, sir.

00:00:53.000 Nice.

00:00:54.000 Dude, I love the fact that you take regular classes.

00:00:56.000 I watch you on the Instagram.

00:00:58.000 Yeah.

00:00:58.000 Bantamweight champion of the world.

00:01:00.000 Oh, yeah.

00:01:00.000 Regular classes with regular people.

00:01:06.000 I love it.

00:01:08.000 None of his classes are regular though. 0.99

00:01:10.000 Even if you're an average Joe coming off the street, Dwayne's teaching you the same shit that I'm doing. 0.79

00:01:15.000 But yeah, working out with a guy that's never had a real fight before, he'll always remember that. 0.93

00:01:20.000 He'll always get to work out with me.

00:01:22.000 It's cool, man.

00:01:23.000 I like doing it, and especially at Dwayne's gym, too.

00:01:25.000 It kind of shows the true love that I have for the system and being in there. 0.94

00:01:29.000 Yeah, I mean, what kind of fucking sport, other than MMA, is that even possible? 0.96

00:01:33.000 Good point. 0.99

00:01:35.000 Right?

00:01:35.000 If it's controlled.

00:01:36.000 Jiu-jitsu, you could do that, but most people don't know who the jiu-jitsu guys are. 0.98

00:01:40.000 I mean, you're fighting on fucking television all the time. 0.97

00:01:42.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:01:42.000 It's almost too easy to have that happen in this sport. 0.99

00:01:46.000 To where there's people you shouldn't be sparring with, it happens.

00:01:50.000 That's why a controlled environment is awesome.

00:01:52.000 That's why I feel like the small training camps and teams have been so beneficial because you know exactly who you're working out with.

00:01:58.000 Who are you getting better with?

00:01:59.000 But there are times to work out with the average guys, you know, not when I'm getting ready for a fight or don't want to get hurt, you know, kind of thing.

00:02:07.000 And then his is a very controlled system when we're doing Dutch drills that it's not going to go crazy.

00:02:13.000 You know, there's so many different approaches to training fighters.

00:02:16.000 Yes, sir.

00:02:17.000 And you obviously have hit...

00:02:19.000 You guys have, like, the best fighter-trainer relationship that I know about.

00:02:24.000 Because you guys are so tight.

00:02:25.000 It's like, you guys are really a team.

00:02:27.000 Whereas there's always some weird animosity with fighters and trainers, and the blow-ups are just like men and women. 1.00

00:02:33.000 Like, when men and women break up, and you fucking bitch, you know, you fucking fucking... 1.00

00:02:38.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:02:39.000 That happens.

00:02:40.000 That makes me so sad when I see, like, fighter-trainer blowouts. 0.98

00:02:45.000 When they separate and talk shit about each other, like, God, that's such a bummer. 0.98

00:02:49.000 I think it's both of them having too big of an ego. 0.99

00:02:51.000 One wants to be, like, the coach maybe coaching the fighter, wants to be more popular or whatever it may be, you know?

00:02:56.000 And it just, I don't know, whenever Dwayne came into the gym and as soon as he was there from the first practice, I knew we were going to get along. 1.00

00:03:03.000 He's a crazy motherfucker. 0.99

00:03:04.000 He likes to go hard, competitive, and that's kind of like everything I do, you know? 1.00

00:03:09.000 But you're also, you have a very, very well thought out system.

00:03:13.000 Yes, sir.

00:03:13.000 I was very impressed with just your documentation of your system, how you have all these different things worked out.

00:03:21.000 There's obviously creativity involved when an actual fight is happening, but your system is so well thought out and so comprehensive.

00:03:31.000 I feel that's what I'm supposed to be doing is organizing the chaos of a fight so that the regular person can understand what's happening.

00:03:37.000 When I was fighting and training, fighting was scary.

00:03:41.000 I was very scared of it, so I wanted to make sure I understood what was going on.

00:03:44.000 So I just started mapping it out.

00:03:45.000 A lot of that came from Sensei Rutten because he had the number system of three was jab cross hook rather than three just being the left hook.

00:03:53.000 He sparked the initial interest to just start categorizing everything, putting things into a system, and it helped out.

00:03:58.000 Yeah, but you don't sleep.

00:03:59.000 He thinks about it nonstop.

00:04:01.000 He doesn't sleep.

00:04:01.000 There's only one way to be great.

00:04:02.000 I'll get a text message in the middle of the night when we're coming up to a fight, and it'll be like 12, 1 o'clock, and even if he's in Colorado, it's 2 o'clock for him, and getting a random text message of what I should be doing for this fight.

00:04:13.000 He's watching sparring tapes of what I was doing, and he changed this, and he changed that.

00:04:17.000 I mean, this guy cares about my career just as much as I do, and that's why it works, you know?

00:04:20.000 Yeah.

00:04:21.000 It's true.

00:04:21.000 I want him to be the best he can be.

00:04:22.000 So his system changes.

00:04:23.000 I mean, it's a great thought-out system, but I've never had the same training camp.

00:04:27.000 You know, I don't ever have the same combo.

00:04:29.000 We have, like, your system base is the same, but it always veers off.

00:04:33.000 Like, I don't even know what the TJ combo is anymore.

00:04:35.000 I think it's changed like eight times, you know, so it's always like an add-on or a change.

00:04:41.000 Well, I remember the first time you fought Hannon Burrell when you won the title.

00:04:45.000 And Dwayne and I had lunch together.

00:04:48.000 And there was a bunch of people at the table, but Dwayne didn't even know they were alive.

00:04:51.000 He wasn't even paying attention.

00:04:52.000 He was just telling me exactly how it was going to go down.

00:04:54.000 And he was just talking about all the things.

00:04:56.000 And his hands are moving, and his shoulders are twitching, and his eyes are moving around back and forth.

00:05:00.000 And he was going 100 miles an hour with his voice.

00:05:04.000 I was like, wow, dude, you're geared up. 0.99

00:05:06.000 And he goes, he's going to fuck him up. 1.00

00:05:07.000 He's going to fuck him up. 1.00

00:05:08.000 For sure. 0.99

00:05:09.000 I mean, you see the emotion that he shows inside Doctor on after the fights, you know?

00:05:13.000 So that's how much he cares going into it.

00:05:15.000 That's how nervous he is, you know?

00:05:17.000 And like I said, if you have a coach that cares that much about you and your career, then you don't let it go.

00:05:21.000 Yeah, when you were in Sacramento and then you moved to Colorado, you had basically kind of had to start from scratch.

00:05:28.000 A lot of people obviously know who you are.

00:05:30.000 You're a well-sought-out trainer, but you were opening up your own place from scratch. 0.98

00:05:34.000 And now that place is fucking mobbed and you're expanding. 0.98

00:05:37.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:05:37.000 Yes, sir. 0.99

00:05:38.000 We're expanding and just continuing to grow and have a good positive outlet for people to explore their soul, right?

00:05:44.000 That's why I'm here, is to teach martial arts.

00:05:47.000 I'm glad everyone else is realizing that as well and I can cross paths with ninjas like TJ Dillashaw and help them become better martial artists.

00:05:55.000 It's just good.

00:05:56.000 I'm 100% living vicariously through TJ and all my athletes and everybody under the BMT umbrella.

00:06:02.000 It's a good way to give back and basically relive another career for the most part.

00:06:08.000 And that's what we should be doing anyway, is paying the positive lessons forward.

00:06:12.000 On to the next generation, and that's the definition of sensei, actually, meaning history teacher, teacher, you know, from those who've come before you.

00:06:19.000 And to have somebody like TJ, as dedicated as he is, it's a true blessing.

00:06:23.000 And that's why I'm all in.

00:06:24.000 He's all in.

00:06:25.000 I'm all in.

00:06:25.000 Let's go.

00:06:26.000 Yeah, it's just rare that you find all-in coach and all-in fighter, and they get together, and you guys have such unique working experiences.

00:06:33.000 I'm more than all in.

00:06:35.000 Same with you.

00:06:35.000 I'm addicted.

00:06:37.000 If I'm not completely full-blown into it, I mentally am fucked when I get home. 0.95

00:06:43.000 Now, coming off of this second victory over Cody and then being able to stop him even quicker this time and just all the crazy shit talking that led up to that fight and the results of the first fight, I mean, that's got to be very satisfying to you that everything is going according to plan. 0.97

00:07:03.000 Absolutely, man.

00:07:05.000 It is.

00:07:06.000 Especially with the whole build-up. 0.99

00:07:07.000 It was like two years of just bullshit, having to deal with that in my life. 0.99

00:07:10.000 And that's not the kind of person I am. 0.98

00:07:12.000 I'd rather be in the mountains than you'd not be able to get ahold of me hunting or just camping.

00:07:16.000 If I could disappear, I'd take the advantage to do it. 0.98

00:07:19.000 So that crazy attention and just the shit-talking, the TV show, them accusing me of everything, that took a lot. 0.93

00:07:26.000 And so for all that to be taken off my shoulders feels great. 0.95

00:07:29.000 For you, though, that's got to be a real feeling of retribution, too.

00:07:35.000 No matter what they said, you had the right idea.

00:07:38.000 They might not have been happy that you decided to do it for yourself and the right move for yourself was to go to Colorado and be with Dwayne, but obviously you were right.

00:07:47.000 Yeah, 100% I was right.

00:07:49.000 That's why I made the decision.

00:07:52.000 You've got to be selfish in this sport.

00:07:54.000 You've got to do what's best for yourself. 0.98

00:07:55.000 In some ways, without fucking people over, you have to be selfish. 0.98

00:07:58.000 Of course. 0.98

00:07:59.000 We have to know what's best for you.

00:08:00.000 The ultimate decision for me was when I got an ultimatum.

00:08:04.000 Uriah knew how much I like training with Dwayne.

00:08:06.000 He knew how great it was for my mentality and we just vibed right away.

00:08:09.000 They didn't.

00:08:10.000 And so when he gave me the ultimatum, like, look, man, you're either doing your camp with Dwayne or you're doing with us.

00:08:14.000 I was like, well, then you don't have my best interest in heart.

00:08:16.000 I'm out of here.

00:08:17.000 You know, like, I sold my house, bought, moved out to Colorado.

00:08:20.000 Like, I dropped everything and went.

00:08:22.000 Dude, that was tough.

00:08:23.000 You know, it was a tough situation to go through.

00:08:26.000 Yeah, I made the right choice.

00:08:28.000 Well, your decision and the way you approached it was very similar to what you were doing, too.

00:08:33.000 Because when I talked to you, you're like, I'm going to open up my own gym in Colorado.

00:08:36.000 And I remember thinking, whenever someone thinks they're going to start from scratch with a new gym by themselves, I'm like, ugh. 0.97

00:08:41.000 I mean, I wish you well, but damn, that's a lot of work. 0.96

00:08:45.000 You know as well as anybody. 0.98

00:08:46.000 Yes, sir.

00:08:46.000 I've known since I was a kid I was going to be a world champion and have my own academy in Colorado.

00:08:50.000 Check, check.

00:08:51.000 Wow.

00:08:52.000 Darting a gym is tough, man.

00:08:53.000 We're doing it now.

00:08:54.000 We've been going through it for the last year, year and a half down here in Southern California.

00:08:58.000 Yeah, and the new place is called...

00:09:00.000 The Training Lab.

00:09:01.000 The Training Lab.

00:09:02.000 But it's spelled funny.

00:09:03.000 With R-E-I-N, like rain. 0.99

00:09:05.000 Yeah, because Mark Munoz had rain down in Lake Forest.

00:09:09.000 And Sam Calvita, the guy that...

00:09:11.000 I moved down for strength conditioning. 0.95

00:09:13.000 Just his crazy mind. 0.94

00:09:14.000 He's beyond smart. 0.72

00:09:16.000 Everything he talks about, I have to be at his house for hours, pretty much doing a podcast with him to figure out what he's talking about.

00:09:22.000 It usually always goes over your head.

00:09:24.000 Like I said, I'm always full-blown.

00:09:26.000 I'm in 100%.

00:09:27.000 And so as soon as he started showing me the science behind what my body needs to do for my diet, my recovery, the days I'm working out, the way I'm doing my strength conditioning, if I'm going to go bigger or how far I am from camp, everything has a rhyme and reason.

00:09:41.000 Every calorie I eat, every macronutrients I eat, he's got it written down.

00:09:46.000 He's like this guy who stays up late and works.

00:09:49.000 And he doesn't do it for the money or the pride.

00:09:51.000 He doesn't want anything.

00:09:52.000 We do it out of his garage.

00:09:53.000 It's like an old Rocky-style training with Drago Science.

00:09:56.000 I saw that on the UFC countdown videos.

00:09:59.000 Yeah, man.

00:09:59.000 We're out in the park.

00:10:00.000 We're doing crazy.

00:10:01.000 Yesterday, I was out in the park with him doing a bunch of crazy stuff and a lot of reaction time stuff.

00:10:06.000 Just the way he trains is very, very scientific.

00:10:09.000 I've seen the gains insanely.

00:10:11.000 Really?

00:10:12.000 For as old as I am, I'm the strongest and fastest I've ever been.

00:10:15.000 How old are you now?

00:10:16.000 32. I've been trained since I was eight.

00:10:19.000 I never got into diet, never got into any of this until I started picking Sam's brain.

00:10:26.000 It's not bro science either.

00:10:27.000 We're not like, oh, I think I feel better.

00:10:29.000 I'm testing myself.

00:10:30.000 I've boosted my hormones.

00:10:32.000 I wasn't able to get my wife pregnant for three years, and it happened in three months after meeting Sam.

00:10:36.000 I went so full-blown that I created my own spice company around his diet.

00:10:42.000 What has got you doing differently?

00:10:44.000 How were you eating before?

00:10:45.000 And what were you doing before for strength and conditioning before you met him?

00:10:49.000 So it was...

00:10:50.000 I didn't care about what I ate.

00:10:52.000 I don't cut much weight.

00:10:53.000 You know, 35s isn't a very big cut for me.

00:10:55.000 What do you walk around at?

00:10:56.000 Like right now, I probably walk up 150 this morning.

00:10:59.000 That's a little bit lighter than normal, but I have to...

00:11:01.000 I bulk up to go 35s.

00:11:03.000 I put on another good 5 pounds of muscle before I start to even worry about my weight at 35s.

00:11:09.000 But I was just eating whatever, you know?

00:11:11.000 And I used to make fun of Danny for being gluten-free.

00:11:14.000 Like, ah, give me more gluten.

00:11:15.000 I don't care.

00:11:15.000 I'll eat whatever I want.

00:11:16.000 I'm the best, you know?

00:11:17.000 I'll just train hard, train harder than everyone.

00:11:19.000 But not only my age, but just learning the science behind it.

00:11:22.000 Now I'm not eating grains.

00:11:24.000 No sugars unless it's from fruits and stuff like that.

00:11:31.000 It's a special diet.

00:11:33.000 You almost go paleo, keto, kind of, but obviously our bodies can't do that because I need the simple carbs and the carbs to run off and stuff.

00:11:41.000 I don't want to give away all his secrets, but he's changed up a lot with me.

00:11:46.000 You don't want to give away all the secrets, but when it comes to nutrition, what kind of protein does he have you eating?

00:11:52.000 What portions of protein?

00:11:53.000 How much of it is fat?

00:11:55.000 Are you getting your fat from avocado, coconut oil?

00:11:57.000 What are you getting it from?

00:11:58.000 Oh yeah, a lot of nuts, a lot of coconut oils.

00:12:03.000 They even pre-make my meals, so I don't even think about what meals I'm eating.

00:12:07.000 Jesus Christ.

00:12:08.000 He does all three of my meals and two of my snacks every day.

00:12:10.000 And you live in that area when you're in training camp?

00:12:13.000 Yes, yeah.

00:12:14.000 So I just bought a house in Yorba Linda.

00:12:15.000 Ah, it's a nice area.

00:12:17.000 Dude, I love it.

00:12:18.000 It's amazing.

00:12:18.000 It's a real good family area, good school district.

00:12:20.000 So that's how you know your life has changed when you're looking at houses for school districts.

00:12:25.000 Dude, trust me.

00:12:27.000 Being a father's grace.

00:12:28.000 It's a change of the whole shifting of your world.

00:12:31.000 It's everything.

00:12:32.000 Yeah, I mean, it's everything.

00:12:33.000 That's all you think about, you know?

00:12:34.000 It takes a while to realize you're a different person.

00:12:36.000 Like, oh, I'm a different person than I used to be.

00:12:38.000 I remember you made a comment before saying that there was an old banana or a fresh banana or something, right?

00:12:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:12:44.000 There was a bit from my act.

00:12:45.000 Oh, is that what it was?

00:12:46.000 That's when I realized something. 0.99

00:12:47.000 There was two bananas, and one of them was yellow and perfect, and the other one was brown and fucked up. 0.99

00:12:52.000 But my daughter loves bananas, so I took that brown, fucked up banana, and I ate it. 0.99

00:12:58.000 Because I realized that I was putting her above me. 0.99

00:13:03.000 I'd never thought about that before.

00:13:05.000 And then I said, because I love my wife.

00:13:07.000 She's an awesome person. 1.00

00:13:08.000 But if it's just me and her, that bitch is getting a shitty banana. 1.00

00:13:15.000 That's why I drive a frickin' Subaru car, because it's got a five-star crash rating, good in the snow. 0.99

00:13:20.000 So, yeah, I think of the kids first for sure.

00:13:23.000 Dude, Subaru, they own Denver.

00:13:25.000 Yeah, Colorado, there's tons of Subarus.

00:13:27.000 They own Colorado.

00:13:27.000 But I did just get a Tesla, so I'm supporting the podcast.

00:13:31.000 Well, not like I just dropped 50 grand.

00:13:33.000 You go on the website, you punch in the information, you put in a $1,000 deposit, and then you've got to wait for a while for it to be built, so it's not like I dropped 50 grand.

00:13:41.000 And then I'm going to lease it through the business anyway, but I've been wanting to get one for a while.

00:13:45.000 It's funny, man, how Subarus, they've proven themselves in Colorado just for reliability.

00:13:50.000 They're awesome.

00:13:50.000 A ton of old ones still floating around.

00:13:52.000 Everywhere.

00:13:54.000 Literally, if you go through Boulder, it's like 50% Subarus.

00:13:57.000 I would say that, yeah. 1.00

00:13:59.000 They've just said, let's just cut the shit. 1.00

00:14:01.000 This one is the best in snow. 1.00

00:14:03.000 Let's stop fucking around. 0.99

00:14:04.000 They never break. 1.00

00:14:05.000 Fucking Japanese cars, man, they never... 1.00

00:14:07.000 I've had three Lexuses. 1.00

00:14:08.000 Never had a single problem with any of them.

00:14:11.000 That's a good built car.

00:14:11.000 Over like 15, 20 years I've had Lexuses.

00:14:15.000 They never fuck up.

00:14:16.000 Perfect. 0.98

00:14:17.000 They just start.

00:14:17.000 Every time.

00:14:19.000 No fuck ups. 0.99

00:14:20.000 300,000 miles on it, it's still gonna run. 0.98

00:14:22.000 Yeah, other cars you get in, the windows roll halfway down. 0.99

00:14:24.000 What the fuck's going on? 0.99

00:14:25.000 Ding, ding, ding. 0.99

00:14:26.000 Lights go off in the dashboard.

00:14:27.000 What is this?

00:14:28.000 It shuts off. 1.00

00:14:29.000 Ah, fuck! 1.00

00:14:30.000 Put black tape over it. 1.00

00:14:31.000 You won't see it no more.

00:14:32.000 Yeah.

00:14:33.000 Yeah, well, you know, I don't know.

00:14:35.000 It's got to be difficult to build cars. 0.99

00:14:37.000 Speaking of cars, does everybody know you have that fucking thing outside? 0.99

00:14:40.000 Are you allowed to talk about it? 0.99

00:14:41.000 Oh, yeah, I'm allowed to talk about it, yeah.

00:14:42.000 You got one of my favorite cars ever.

00:14:44.000 Dude, I love it.

00:14:44.000 The new NSX. It's an amazing car.

00:14:46.000 That thing's a spaceship. 0.81

00:14:48.000 It really is, man.

00:14:49.000 Yeah, spaceship.

00:14:50.000 That's a real spaceship.

00:14:51.000 It's a real fun car.

00:14:53.000 What are we talking about?

00:14:54.000 It has four engines.

00:14:56.000 Three of them are electric.

00:14:57.000 I mean, it is a crazy vehicle.

00:14:59.000 It's got that twin-turbo V6. I mean, it's only got high 500s in horsepower.

00:15:03.000 It is. 1.00

00:15:04.000 Look at that fucking thing. 1.00

00:15:05.000 It's only got high 500s. 1.00

00:15:07.000 But the torque on it is insane because it's two electric motors.

00:15:11.000 So off the start, it's so fast.

00:15:13.000 Zero to 60 in 2.9 seconds.

00:15:15.000 It's fast, dude.

00:15:16.000 It's so good looking, too.

00:15:17.000 Yeah.

00:15:18.000 I love the way they look.

00:15:19.000 They look like a car that's supposed to be built in 2018. You know what I mean?

00:15:22.000 It's like, that shit's from the future. 0.99

00:15:24.000 It took them a long time to create that car. 0.99

00:15:26.000 I mean, they stopped making the second generation NSX, like what?

00:15:30.000 2005. I had one.

00:15:31.000 Oh, did you?

00:15:32.000 Yeah.

00:15:32.000 That's why you're a huge fan of them, too.

00:15:33.000 Yeah.

00:15:34.000 I had one in the early 90s, and then I had one in 2003. Okay.

00:15:39.000 Yeah.

00:15:40.000 Did you like the early 90s or 2003?

00:15:42.000 No, I liked the headlights better than the newer one.

00:15:43.000 Okay.

00:15:44.000 Okay.

00:15:44.000 But they're all awesome.

00:15:46.000 It's not a fast car.

00:15:48.000 I think it had 270 horsepower.

00:15:50.000 But it's all aluminum.

00:15:52.000 It's mid-engine.

00:15:53.000 It sounds amazing when it gets high in the high revs.

00:15:56.000 But it doesn't sound like...

00:15:58.000 It's not like an old Mustang. 1.00

00:16:01.000 It's like, fuck you! 1.00

00:16:03.000 Like metal as it drives on the street. 1.00

00:16:05.000 It's like a sophisticated sound.

00:16:06.000 Yeah.

00:16:07.000 But a cool sound, the VTEC engine.

00:16:09.000 That was my one problem with the new NSX, was how quiet it was, because it's a hybrid.

00:16:13.000 So I'm like, like I said, I was one of three cars in the United States right now that have a custom exhaust for it to make it sound a lot better.

00:16:19.000 This guy out in Chicago, a B-Rogue, I think it is, has designed an exhaust for it.

00:16:25.000 You know, that car is also, even though it's inaccurate, that car is made and designed in the United States.

00:16:29.000 Yeah, the factory's in Ohio, right?

00:16:31.000 Yeah, it's a total American car, but it's under the Acura.

00:16:36.000 I mean, it's like, what is American anymore?

00:16:38.000 I mean, I don't even understand it anymore.

00:16:39.000 Every time I order stuff, it's always from China or Pakistan or something.

00:16:42.000 But it's also like the parts.

00:16:44.000 Like, are all the parts made here?

00:16:45.000 No.

00:16:45.000 Everything?

00:16:46.000 No way.

00:16:47.000 Assembled.

00:16:47.000 That's an issue with Harley-Davidson, right?

00:16:49.000 Trump wants us to ban Harley-Davidson's now.

00:16:52.000 I didn't know that.

00:16:53.000 Boycott Harley-Davidson's.

00:16:54.000 Really?

00:16:55.000 Yeah, because Harley-Davidson is going to shift their factories to somewhere to make some part of it, or maybe all of it.

00:17:00.000 Shouldn't he be talking about Elon Musk and saving the world?

00:17:03.000 I don't know.

00:17:04.000 I don't think anybody could do Trump's job.

00:17:07.000 I don't think anybody could be president. 0.99

00:17:08.000 I think it's stupid to ask one person to have that much responsibility. 0.99

00:17:12.000 Yes. 0.99

00:17:12.000 That person needs to be like 10, 15 people to handle that job, for sure. 0.99

00:17:16.000 Maybe 30. There's no way I'd ever want the pressure of that job.

00:17:19.000 Fuck that job! 1.00

00:17:21.000 Fuck that job. 1.00

00:17:22.000 I wonder how much he's actually doing though. 1.00

00:17:24.000 I don't wonder how much pussy he's getting. 1.00

00:17:26.000 I really want to know. 1.00

00:17:27.000 Because I don't think he's going to stop getting pussy. 1.00

00:17:30.000 He's like, I'm Trump! 1.00

00:17:31.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:17:31.000 He's still on the roll.

00:17:33.000 There's got to be, I mean, whether him and Melania still hook up.

00:17:37.000 She seems upset with him.

00:17:38.000 It's interesting.

00:17:39.000 It's a drama.

00:17:39.000 I just watch it all go down.

00:17:41.000 Like, is the investigation closing in on him?

00:17:43.000 Are they going to put him in jail? 1.00

00:17:44.000 Or is he going to be like, fuck you, I'm getting in my spaceship. 1.00

00:17:47.000 I'm flying away. 1.00

00:17:49.000 I don't know.

00:17:50.000 For sure he has a spaceship.

00:17:51.000 Well, if he doesn't, he's trying to find out if he can get one.

00:17:54.000 A gold one that says Trump on the side of it.

00:17:55.000 That's why he's got to work with Elon Musk again.

00:17:57.000 See?

00:17:57.000 We've got a spaceship real quick.

00:17:58.000 Well, Elon bailed on him when they got out of the Paris Accord.

00:18:01.000 Ah.

00:18:02.000 Yeah.

00:18:02.000 The Climate Accord.

00:18:04.000 I don't know.

00:18:05.000 I don't know enough about this.

00:18:06.000 I don't know how your brain holds on to even that much information.

00:18:08.000 I don't know either, man.

00:18:09.000 You remember everything.

00:18:10.000 I remember too much.

00:18:11.000 It's a problem. 0.99

00:18:12.000 I don't remember shit. 0.99

00:18:13.000 But, like, my wife will tell me from Tuesday. 0.98

00:18:15.000 I'm like, what?

00:18:16.000 You told me that?

00:18:17.000 She's like, we're standing right here.

00:18:19.000 She'll go over all the details because she remembers all of it.

00:18:21.000 I'm like, okay, I guess you're right.

00:18:23.000 Okay.

00:18:25.000 But I'll tell you, in 1852...

00:18:28.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:18:29.000 Full of some facts and stats. 1.00

00:18:30.000 Some stupid stats. 1.00

00:18:32.000 That's how I am. 1.00

00:18:32.000 When it comes to martial arts, I feel like I understand, have a good grasp on what's happening. 1.00

00:18:37.000 But outside of martial arts, I don't know that much.

00:18:40.000 Yeah, but that's probably good, man.

00:18:41.000 I think there's some real power in that, having a singular focus.

00:18:47.000 I think in order to be great at something, you have to be that way.

00:18:51.000 I wouldn't say singular, but I would say very dominantly focused.

00:18:55.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:18:56.000 Because if I was only thinking about MMA, I would not be here.

00:19:00.000 Yeah, that's a good point, right?

00:19:01.000 You need some other things that interest you to relieve the pressure.

00:19:05.000 Have to.

00:19:06.000 Otherwise, it's too much and you snap.

00:19:08.000 What is the best one for you?

00:19:10.000 Escape-wise?

00:19:11.000 Yeah.

00:19:12.000 Jumping on my Malibu boat in my backyard in Colorado and wake surfing and just getting out.

00:19:16.000 Or hunting, both of those.

00:19:18.000 I like getting out.

00:19:19.000 I just went and hiked around in the mountains of Colorado for, I only got to do two and a half days because I'm too busy.

00:19:23.000 But by myself, no one else.

00:19:26.000 First time I ever hunted in the area.

00:19:27.000 I scouted it like three days before camp, but just went out by myself.

00:19:31.000 Didn't have a cell phone reception, nothing.

00:19:33.000 Just to your own thoughts for two and a half days.

00:19:34.000 So this time of year, archery mule deer, was that what it was?

00:19:38.000 Yeah, so I tried getting an elk tag in Colorado, but I didn't draw.

00:19:41.000 I did draw a mule deer tag for the same area.

00:19:45.000 So it's heavily dominated elk, so it's hard to get a mule deer there.

00:19:48.000 Yeah, it's hard to get those two to coincide with each other, but that's hard hunting.

00:19:52.000 That's mountain hunting.

00:19:53.000 That's the real deal.

00:19:54.000 Yeah, man.

00:19:54.000 I mean, you're going from 8,000 to 10, 11, 12,000 feet.

00:19:58.000 You know, hike two or three of those mountains and you're toast when you get back.

00:20:02.000 Hey man, when you do that, bring that Shroom Tech Sport.

00:20:06.000 Any cordyceps mushroom supplement, anything along those lines, that's literally how it came about.

00:20:12.000 They realized these high-altitude cattle herders were realizing that their cows were more active when they were eating these certain mushrooms.

00:20:19.000 And that's the cordyceps mushroom.

00:20:21.000 We actually grow.

00:20:22.000 We don't grow.

00:20:25.000 They grow it off caterpillars.

00:20:26.000 Oh, no way.

00:20:28.000 They grow it off the caterpillars? 1.00

00:20:29.000 Yeah, it's fucking weird shit, man. 1.00

00:20:31.000 All cordyceps mushrooms are grown that way? 1.00

00:20:33.000 I don't know about all, but a lot of them.

00:20:34.000 That's crazy.

00:20:35.000 Yeah, they grow them on caterpillars.

00:20:37.000 So they're definitely not vegan.

00:20:41.000 I take shroom tech and Alpermin before every session.

00:20:44.000 So is that a plant-based like...

00:20:45.000 It's fungal-based.

00:20:47.000 Okay.

00:20:48.000 Mushroom does.

00:20:49.000 Yeah.

00:20:49.000 Mushrooms, they take in air and they breathe out carbon dioxide like we do.

00:20:54.000 They're closer to animals than they are to plants.

00:20:56.000 Wow.

00:20:57.000 That's a whole different category.

00:20:58.000 Have you ever listened to Paul Stamets?

00:21:00.000 No.

00:21:00.000 Oh my god.

00:21:01.000 I did a podcast with him.

00:21:03.000 Strap yourself in.

00:21:04.000 Take three hits.

00:21:05.000 Hold on tight.

00:21:06.000 Buckle down.

00:21:07.000 And listen to that guy's podcast.

00:21:09.000 He's a real mycologist.

00:21:11.000 An actual scientist who studies mushrooms.

00:21:14.000 And he's amazing.

00:21:15.000 So that's how Cordyceps mushrooms are grown.

00:21:17.000 Okay.

00:21:18.000 Where's the caterpillar?

00:21:19.000 Underneath that?

00:21:20.000 You can just buy it.

00:21:20.000 That's a culture.

00:21:21.000 Oh, that's a culture of them? 1.00

00:21:22.000 Yeah.

00:21:22.000 I thought it would have a caterpillar in there.

00:21:24.000 Oh, okay.

00:21:24.000 So this is for your home.

00:21:27.000 That's probably even better, right?

00:21:28.000 You get it fresh.

00:21:29.000 I don't know how you I don't know how to make it either.

00:21:32.000 A lot of dudes grow shrooms, though.

00:21:33.000 It's pretty easy, apparently.

00:21:35.000 Yeah.

00:21:36.000 But just, it's a phenomenal supplement.

00:21:39.000 And if you're doing anything high altitude, it will absolutely increase your endurance. 0.77

00:21:44.000 That is one of the only supplements that I'll tell people, look, if you're skeptical about any of this shit, please, I want you to, before you work out, an hour before you take four shroom tech sports and get ready, because you're going to have an extra gear. 0.78

00:21:57.000 You've got one extra gear in training. 0.90

00:22:00.000 It's like one extra push.

00:22:01.000 Yeah, like I was saying earlier, I take them before every session with TJ. Shrimtek and Alphabrain.

00:22:06.000 It's the B12, it's cordyceps, mushrooms, B12, and adaptogens, and those are all really important things for energy.

00:22:13.000 So does Calavita have you doing all kinds of supplementation, and what has he got you taking?

00:22:19.000 So everyone's got a different supplement plan because he does a hair analysis from us and decides...

00:22:23.000 Jesus Christ is a scientist. 0.81

00:22:25.000 Oh, he really...

00:22:25.000 Everything's got numbers, man.

00:22:26.000 Everything.

00:22:27.000 Hair analysis.

00:22:27.000 Yeah.

00:22:28.000 I love it.

00:22:28.000 So my supplement base would be different than Dwayne's.

00:22:31.000 I mean, a lot of us have the...

00:22:31.000 We have the same aminos.

00:22:33.000 We have the same creatine.

00:22:35.000 Obviously, it depends on where you're going for a fight.

00:22:37.000 You know, that kind of stuff.

00:22:39.000 But when it comes down to what's in your body mineral-wise, like I might have more magnesium or more this or more that.

00:22:44.000 And it gets our body back to homeostasis.

00:22:46.000 So we'll take out what we have too much of.

00:22:48.000 I might need more vitamin B. Was there any examples of things you didn't, you have too much of?

00:22:53.000 I have, well, I have too much arsenic in my body.

00:22:55.000 Oh, what were you eating?

00:22:57.000 I think it's rice.

00:22:58.000 I think the rice is given a lot of, because rice is heavily, because it's grown in water.

00:23:03.000 And so the arsenic is coming out of the water.

00:23:05.000 Oh, wow.

00:23:06.000 Yeah, so I think it could be for my tattoos as well.

00:23:10.000 Oh, really?

00:23:11.000 Yeah, the ink has arsenic in it. 1.00

00:23:13.000 I'm fucked. 1.00

00:23:15.000 Yeah, man. 1.00

00:23:15.000 The only person that had more arsenic in my body than me in our camp was Cub Swanson. 1.00

00:23:20.000 Wow.

00:23:21.000 And he's all covered in tattoos.

00:23:23.000 His whole back and stuff, yeah.

00:23:24.000 That is crazy.

00:23:25.000 Now, did they find a way to eliminate it?

00:23:28.000 Can you eliminate it?

00:23:29.000 Yeah, so I'm taking a lot of different stuff for it, but I'm taking chlorella.

00:23:33.000 I juice every day.

00:23:34.000 I juice cilantro.

00:23:36.000 Cilantro is good for heavy metals, getting a detox.

00:23:39.000 I'm taking methionine, which is like amino to pull it out of your body.

00:23:43.000 And then he's got some drops I'm on too.

00:23:46.000 I don't even know what they are.

00:23:47.000 Now, have you got a second test?

00:23:49.000 Yeah, it's come down by over 50%.

00:23:51.000 Oh, wow.

00:23:52.000 So if it's still in your system and you're not eating rice anymore, so it's got to be from your tattoos.

00:24:00.000 Yeah, it could be.

00:24:01.000 I mean...

00:24:01.000 Or is it just slowly leaving?

00:24:02.000 Oh, you can't.

00:24:03.000 So you can do a collation where they do it by IV, but that stuff's like, it's hard on you how fast it comes out.

00:24:08.000 So it comes out in like pimples.

00:24:10.000 It'll come out like when I have...

00:24:11.000 It started coming out of my arm.

00:24:13.000 Like it would mainly, I'd get pimples throughout my arm and that's kind of your body pushing it.

00:24:17.000 You also push it through your urine and things like that, but it'll come out of your skin. 0.96

00:24:21.000 You got arsenic zit, son.

00:24:22.000 Yeah.

00:24:22.000 How weird.

00:24:23.000 Yeah.

00:24:24.000 I tested for arsenic once, but I was eating sardines.

00:24:27.000 I was eating a lot of sardines, and apparently they live around the bottom of the ocean, and they get a lot of the heavy metal poisons from that way.

00:24:35.000 That's crazy, but it makes sense with rice.

00:24:37.000 That totally makes sense.

00:24:39.000 But everyone's got different supplements.

00:24:40.000 It just depends on what's in your body, what you need to get back to perfect homeostasis.

00:24:45.000 And then he adds the certain amino muscle building and ubiquinol and the krill oils and things like that for building new red blood cells and things like that.

00:24:56.000 What is his scientific background?

00:24:58.000 So I don't know all of that.

00:25:00.000 I know he worked for NASA. He was like working with the nuclear anti-defense system.

00:25:06.000 And then he missed a Christmas or something and decided to move home and be a school teacher and he became a calculus teacher.

00:25:14.000 Whoa.

00:25:14.000 And he does like a private high school.

00:25:18.000 People travel all over the world to take his class.

00:25:21.000 He won some award of being the best calculus teacher in the world.

00:25:24.000 All of his kids on his placement test scored, I don't know if it's perfect or very high.

00:25:31.000 He's just like math.

00:25:33.000 Math will tell you everything and the numbers.

00:25:35.000 Like I said, it's not bro science.

00:25:37.000 It's to the exact.

00:25:38.000 You know exactly if you're getting better.

00:25:41.000 Yeah.

00:25:42.000 Well, he must apply that science to his understanding of energy and of intensity because like the way you guys train, it's very intense, very explosive.

00:25:51.000 It reminds me a lot of what I'm seeing at least of like Marv Marinovich's type training, like a lot of plyometrics, a lot of things along those lines.

00:26:00.000 Would that be fair to say?

00:26:01.000 Absolutely.

00:26:02.000 But then we're also doing deadlifts and cleans.

00:26:06.000 And we're doing a lot of stuff, man.

00:26:08.000 And he mixes it up a lot?

00:26:10.000 Yeah, depending on where you're at in your camp.

00:26:12.000 Also the recovery.

00:26:13.000 So the recovery is huge.

00:26:14.000 He listens to our body while we're sleeping.

00:26:17.000 So he gets a report every morning.

00:26:19.000 He's next to you in the bed.

00:26:20.000 Pretty much.

00:26:22.000 If you had a couple glasses of wine last night, why are you not recovering?

00:26:25.000 He just knows, or if he knows you're too stressed out, he'll tell me when I'm going to get sick.

00:26:30.000 He's caught on to me getting sick before I got sick.

00:26:32.000 He's like, oh, your body's about to crash.

00:26:34.000 You need to take the next day, next two days off.

00:26:37.000 You need to really rest.

00:26:39.000 He helped keep TJ in that last fight.

00:26:41.000 He helped repair some injuries.

00:26:43.000 We don't have to talk about him, but without Sam, that fight may have been different.

00:26:48.000 Probably my last two fights.

00:26:49.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:26:50.000 I've been dealing with some serious stuff the last couple fights, but I've been able to keep my body very, very strong.

00:26:56.000 Well, I know you also spent some time with Dr. Neil Reardon down in Panama.

00:27:00.000 Was that for the same type of injuries?

00:27:02.000 Same thing, yeah.

00:27:03.000 So a combination of the science of stem cell and Dr. Neil Reardon, as well as Maura here.

00:27:09.000 I mean, I've got stem cells in the States.

00:27:10.000 I've got them in Panama.

00:27:12.000 I've had to do a lot to hold myself together kind of thing, and I feel great because of the way I'm training.

00:27:19.000 I don't think people understand the kind of strain on your body a fight camp puts. 0.99

00:27:26.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.98

00:27:27.000 I mean, if I worked out the way you guys did once, I'm wrecked for a week. 0.99

00:27:31.000 You guys are doing two days, every day, constantly going at it, and then there's ice baths.

00:27:37.000 What does he have you doing?

00:27:38.000 Sauna?

00:27:39.000 Ice bath?

00:27:40.000 What does he have you got?

00:27:41.000 For our recovery?

00:27:43.000 I mean, mainly, it's just a lot of most of the time taking the time off.

00:27:45.000 But we have...

00:27:48.000 It's always changing.

00:27:49.000 It's always evolving, too.

00:27:50.000 He's got this iMile Pro we do for some sort of stim on our muscles.

00:27:53.000 I do light therapy.

00:27:54.000 Stim, like electrical stim?

00:27:56.000 I do light therapy.

00:27:58.000 There's this new place he's starting to work with down in Mission Viejo called the O2 Recovery Center where we'll do...

00:28:06.000 We'll do cryo, we'll do hyperbaric chamber, we'll do CVAC or something like that.

00:28:11.000 A bunch of different stuff we're going to add to it.

00:28:13.000 CVAC is the machine we were talking about really recently where it jacks you up in altitude and then brings you down.

00:28:19.000 It changes the pressure inside that little tube.

00:28:21.000 That's supposed to be pretty amazing.

00:28:23.000 Did you have good results with that?

00:28:24.000 I actually haven't done it yet.

00:28:25.000 So it's something he's telling me now that we're going to add this now.

00:28:28.000 It's always like, every time I come back to camp, it's like we're adding the next step.

00:28:31.000 He doesn't do it all at once.

00:28:33.000 We should.

00:28:33.000 Life's always changing and evolving.

00:28:35.000 It's never like you teaching me the BMT black belt system right away without knowing any of it.

00:28:41.000 So he gets my body slowly adapted to certain things and he adds to it.

00:28:45.000 What about massage?

00:28:47.000 A lot, yeah.

00:28:47.000 What kind of massage do they do?

00:28:48.000 He doesn't have me do it.

00:28:49.000 I just do it because I love it.

00:28:52.000 I always do deep tissue for the most part, and then a lot of the mat, like the stretching, kind of like...

00:28:59.000 Tie massage type stuff?

00:29:00.000 Yeah, a lot of tie massage, and then also, yeah, exactly.

00:29:03.000 That's amazing.

00:29:04.000 They stand on your back and pull your arms up.

00:29:07.000 I have a student, Brett Tomasini.

00:29:09.000 He is by far the best massage therapist I've ever come across.

00:29:13.000 Really?

00:29:13.000 He's badass.

00:29:14.000 There's someone out there.

00:29:15.000 Man, he's got a black belt in massage therapy, that's for sure.

00:29:19.000 A good massage shouldn't feel that great to the average person.

00:29:22.000 It's going to hurt.

00:29:23.000 It's supposed to hurt.

00:29:24.000 It's how you're going to feel afterwards.

00:29:25.000 I actually now have learned to enjoy the pain kind of thing.

00:29:30.000 I've been working this whole last camp too.

00:29:32.000 A guy that really helped me get to my camp was... 0.99

00:29:34.000 I'm an idiot right now. 0.98

00:29:37.000 I'm drawing a blank. 0.99

00:29:39.000 Javier, he did a lot of body work on me that hold me in place as well too.

00:29:44.000 Body work as opposed to...

00:29:46.000 What is body work as opposed to regular massage?

00:29:48.000 So he's more of like the nervous system of all your pathways and really find out what's weak.

00:29:54.000 He'll tell me something that's weak before I even let him know before the massage.

00:29:58.000 How can you tell that?

00:30:00.000 I don't know how I can tell that.

00:30:02.000 I'm not really sure.

00:30:02.000 I'd have to have him tell you.

00:30:04.000 There's something weird about people that touch people's bodies all the time. 0.99

00:30:07.000 And you go, this is all horseshit. 0.96

00:30:09.000 And then they put their army shoulder. 0.99

00:30:09.000 What's going on with your shoulder? 0.99

00:30:10.000 You're like, what?

00:30:11.000 What do you mean?

00:30:12.000 And like, it's very tense up here.

00:30:14.000 You have an injury you're nursing?

00:30:15.000 Like, what?

00:30:16.000 Yeah, how'd you know? 0.99

00:30:17.000 How the fuck do you know? 0.99

00:30:18.000 There's that sixth sense for sure. 0.99

00:30:19.000 And most, they just get used to like the difference between your left side and your right side.

00:30:23.000 You're like, oh, something's going on here.

00:30:25.000 They just...

00:30:26.000 It's like everything else, right?

00:30:27.000 Your understanding of what an athlete is capable of is so different than a person who doesn't train.

00:30:33.000 We can't imagine someone being able to touch your pack and go, oh, you've got a tear.

00:30:38.000 You've got a muscle tear.

00:30:39.000 You're like, what?

00:30:40.000 But there's also those massage therapists that will do something like, how does that feel? 0.99

00:30:43.000 You feel better?

00:30:43.000 It's like, oh, yeah, I guess I feel better.

00:30:45.000 But this guy will find my weaknesses without me even telling him.

00:30:49.000 He'll know things that I need to get worked on.

00:30:51.000 He knows my hips are aligned.

00:30:53.000 Kind of like almost like a chiropractor as well, but he doesn't do chiropractic work.

00:30:56.000 Good.

00:30:58.000 You don't like chiropractors, huh?

00:31:01.000 I just don't think it's real.

00:31:02.000 I love them.

00:31:03.000 I love to get lined back up.

00:31:04.000 I've had my neck just tweaked and not be able to do anything and then get lined back up and be ready to go.

00:31:09.000 It's definitely helped me.

00:31:10.000 Massage, I think, works better than anything.

00:31:13.000 But it's just too much about what chiropractic medicine was, how it started.

00:31:17.000 It started by a guy who was a magnetic healer who learned about it in a seance, and then his son murdered him and took over the business.

00:31:24.000 Turned out to be something good.

00:31:26.000 People are crazy, huh?

00:31:28.000 Yeah. 0.75

00:31:28.000 The good thing about... 0.75

00:31:29.000 I mean, it's interesting, what's good and what's not.

00:31:31.000 What's provable, it's very interesting.

00:31:35.000 People always say that it's a part of the National Institute of Healthcare.

00:31:41.000 Is that what it is?

00:31:42.000 A part of their recommended program.

00:31:44.000 But it's not anymore.

00:31:45.000 They removed it.

00:31:46.000 There's no real evidence that shows it works.

00:31:49.000 The thing about it is, though, it's like...

00:31:52.000 I just adjusted myself.

00:31:53.000 Like, I adjusted my knuckles.

00:31:54.000 That's literally what they're doing, what they're doing to your back.

00:31:57.000 I've had, for whatever, over 100 fights or whatever, and have my neck jacked up and wrestling in shots, and I've had a pretty significant injury where I couldn't change lanes and turn and drive and then go get adjusted and be back to square one.

00:32:09.000 I think I've done the same thing with massage.

00:32:12.000 I think there's something to people touching you and working on stuff and loosening you up in a way that you can't do.

00:32:18.000 And I'm not saying that there's not good chiropractors out there that really understand all the other things like cold laser therapy and different kinds of manipulation in terms of muscle stretching and what is that type of rolfing?

00:32:32.000 Rolfing is legit.

00:32:33.000 What's that?

00:32:34.000 Brutal massage.

00:32:36.000 Just a brutal, brutal massage.

00:32:38.000 But it's one of those things where it breaks everything down and then after it's over, everything's very loose.

00:32:43.000 And there's a lot of chiropractors that are really good physical therapists too.

00:32:47.000 But just the underlying principles of what the chiropractic...

00:32:53.000 Medical practice is.

00:32:54.000 It started off with nonsense.

00:32:56.000 The guy thought he could fix everything by adjusting you.

00:32:59.000 Oh, something wrong with your eyesight?

00:33:01.000 Let me fix it.

00:33:01.000 Yeah, there's going to be limits for sure.

00:33:03.000 Let me fix it. 0.55

00:33:03.000 I'm going to crack your neck and you're not going to have bad breath anymore. 0.55

00:33:06.000 That's stupid. 1.00

00:33:07.000 But if he tells you to believe it, people are like, oh nice, I do. 1.00

00:33:09.000 The power of belief is huge.

00:33:10.000 That's part of the problem.

00:33:12.000 It's one of the things they prey on and one of the things that they use is...

00:33:16.000 There's levels to this whole thing.

00:33:19.000 It's not just regular chiropractors.

00:33:21.000 There are levels.

00:33:22.000 There's different kinds of air quote healers that have different systems that they think they can push down the middle of your back and cure your pancreas. 0.99

00:33:30.000 So much horseshit, but it's not real.

00:33:33.000 But there are a bunch of things you can do that are real, and massage is one of them. 0.96

00:33:38.000 Massage, it's absolutely a fact that it's helped loosen people up and relax people.

00:33:45.000 Just something about being manipulated like that, like somebody really digging their elbow into your tissue and loosening everything up. 0.98

00:33:52.000 We got this fucking Tim-Tam. 0.94

00:33:53.000 You ever use one of these? 0.99

00:33:54.000 Yeah, I have a Tim-Tam and I have the Theragun as well too.

00:33:58.000 This is the mother...

00:33:59.000 I think I have yours.

00:34:02.000 Okay, cool, yeah.

00:34:03.000 He probably doesn't have it.

00:34:03.000 I think I have his.

00:34:04.000 That thing is the shit. 1.00

00:34:06.000 That thing is amazing. 1.00

00:34:07.000 Faraz, thank you.

00:34:08.000 Oh yeah, Faraz, a hobby in the house. 0.99

00:34:09.000 You have anything that's knotted up and really bothers you, you get to hammer it with that fucking thing. 0.99

00:34:15.000 And then afterwards, it's like, ooh! 0.99

00:34:16.000 One of my students made one of those out of a little drill or a gun.

00:34:19.000 Yeah, put a tennis ball or something on it.

00:34:22.000 Yeah, that's essentially what this is.

00:34:24.000 I mean, it's just the same kind of moto that's going up and down.

00:34:26.000 He's like, don't buy that.

00:34:27.000 I got to make this thing for $30.

00:34:28.000 I'm like, I'm good.

00:34:33.000 So when you guys are doing camp, do you move down to California for the, what do you do, six or eight weeks?

00:34:38.000 How many weeks are you doing?

00:34:40.000 Pretty much.

00:34:41.000 I do a lot.

00:34:42.000 I do more than I probably should.

00:34:43.000 But I mean, I'd almost do camp before I get into camp kind of thing.

00:34:46.000 Really?

00:34:46.000 To get yourself in shape?

00:34:48.000 Yeah, I like to be in shape when camp starts, you know?

00:34:49.000 Always developing new things.

00:34:51.000 I would say this camp, Dwayne came out, like, started coming out nine weeks before the fight.

00:34:55.000 Maybe ten.

00:34:56.000 Yeah.

00:34:56.000 It was a little extra.

00:34:57.000 It was more than two months.

00:34:58.000 Yeah.

00:34:58.000 And he would do three days.

00:35:00.000 He'd come out, fly out.

00:35:04.000 Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

00:35:05.000 So be out here three days, back home four days.

00:35:07.000 Splitting time.

00:35:08.000 But it worked a lot.

00:35:09.000 With that, I was able to find a, which I was already aware of. 1.00

00:35:12.000 Slow down, motherfucker. 0.99

00:35:14.000 Sorry, I get excited. 1.00

00:35:15.000 You're doing great.

00:35:15.000 No problems.

00:35:16.000 I got my notepad right here.

00:35:17.000 Slow down.

00:35:18.000 I just want to get into the corners, folks.

00:35:19.000 I want to tell you, I've got to talk slower today.

00:35:21.000 I'm going to talk slower.

00:35:22.000 People always complain, I talk too fast.

00:35:23.000 I'm going to talk slower.

00:35:24.000 But you get a lot of information in in that one minute of the corner time.

00:35:27.000 That's what I talked about because that's why I talk fast.

00:35:30.000 This is why I'm wired, why I talk fast.

00:35:32.000 I got about 30 seconds to talk and relay information, which is also why I have the actual system and code all the drills and combinations so I can condense it.

00:35:40.000 I don't want to say, jab, cross, hit, cross, three.

00:35:42.000 For instance, you can get in the corner for my AC Tomorrow fight, tell me what to do, and I walk out there and 30 seconds later I knock him out or whatever it is.

00:35:49.000 Because you're able to get the information off and there's a system to it.

00:35:53.000 There's routines and there's patterns of success.

00:35:57.000 There are higher percentage drills and combinations that have been proven to be successful.

00:36:00.000 Well, how about we just keep practicing those?

00:36:02.000 Obviously, it's up to the athlete to find the timing, distance, and accuracy to pull them off.

00:36:05.000 And you have to believe.

00:36:06.000 There they are.

00:36:06.000 You have to believe in the system, too.

00:36:10.000 If I didn't believe exactly what Dwayne was telling me or that he can see it, that I know he can see it because he's good at it, Why are you really going to go out there and do what he says?

00:36:19.000 That's one thing I had with Boss too.

00:36:20.000 Whenever he gave me information, I did not doubt it at all as I knew he's been there and done that.

00:36:24.000 And it wasn't stuff that he felt he would do.

00:36:26.000 It's stuff that he knew that I should do, right?

00:36:28.000 And I feel like I understand TJ and I could give him the proper information for the proper time.

00:36:32.000 But also I know when to sit back and let him flow as well, right?

00:36:35.000 And when to chipe in and give him information.

00:36:37.000 And he's really good about receiving information as a case in point.

00:36:41.000 The first fight with Cody, between the rounds, we had to drastically change things, and what we needed to change was just the timing of our attack.

00:36:48.000 It was pretty simple.

00:36:49.000 To me, fighting is now...

00:36:51.000 I don't think I know it all.

00:36:54.000 I mean, I know I don't know it all, but it's all I know, and I know a lot, that's for sure.

00:36:58.000 But I was going back to earlier, traveling out here three days a week and back home four days.

00:37:03.000 Again, I found a really good... 1.00

00:37:04.000 Fuck, slow down. 1.00

00:37:05.000 You're doing great! 1.00

00:37:08.000 I found a good rhythm of us, as far as pulling off information, as far as the pads, the class, sparring, and so it's like we're layering it up, we're practicing it in class, now we're sparring with it, and then going back to what we need to work on.

00:37:22.000 So I found a really good pyramid for TJ to retain, or for anyone to retain the information.

00:37:27.000 Kind of condensing it into three days, it was really fun.

00:37:30.000 It was...

00:37:31.000 I look at it as an experiment.

00:37:33.000 What's the most optimal way for someone to perform and fight safe and effectively?

00:37:38.000 It's fun. 1.00

00:37:39.000 I love this shit. 1.00

00:37:40.000 There's a lot of people that want to go to these big giant super camps. 1.00

00:37:43.000 And I know, you know, with Alpha Male you were in a big giant super camp.

00:37:47.000 What you're doing now is very different, and this is something that, obviously, Stipe Miocic was doing.

00:37:53.000 There's a lot of other fighters that we're doing, that are doing, where a lot of it is based around them.

00:37:59.000 Mighty Mouse, in particular.

00:38:00.000 He's another one.

00:38:01.000 I mean, there are unquestionably professional fighters around them, but it's not like they're in a building with six other world champions, and there's a bunch of savages that are coming up, and everybody's trying to kill each other.

00:38:13.000 It's a different...

00:38:14.000 It's a different setup.

00:38:16.000 Like, a lot of it is geared towards you.

00:38:18.000 It is.

00:38:19.000 And it's just the natural way it kind of happened this time.

00:38:22.000 Is this better?

00:38:22.000 What is better?

00:38:23.000 Is it better to be in the doghouse with all the alpha male guys where it's all just animals trying to kill each other?

00:38:29.000 Quality over quantity.

00:38:30.000 Yes, if it's not for money.

00:38:34.000 You know what I mean?

00:38:34.000 When these big gyms turn into something that wants to make money, then the real martial arts comes out of it.

00:38:38.000 When you have coaches and people running it that are really going to I have a gym in the training lab, so I'm very fortunate that I have Steve Martin, a guy that's been...

00:38:48.000 He's put his heart and soul into this thing to keep this building open because we're not making money.

00:38:54.000 It's pretty much private.

00:38:55.000 I teach a kids' class and we do adult boot camp kind of things just to turn the lights on, just so the bills are paid and some sponsors here and there to pay the coaches.

00:39:04.000 We're losing money and thank God that we have a guy like Steve Martin that's willing to see our dream, that we want to build a team that is not based around money, that it's...

00:39:13.000 Whatever money we end up making from the gym is going every dollar to the coaches.

00:39:17.000 That's great.

00:39:18.000 I don't want to make money.

00:39:19.000 I don't want that awkward relationship between me and Juan Archuleta that I'm making money off him.

00:39:23.000 You know what I mean?

00:39:23.000 Because then you get that weird business relationship rather than us just having a real relationship like me wanting him to get better, him wanting me to get better, which I felt like maybe used to kind of be that way at Alpha Male, but it's turned into a money thing to where...

00:39:37.000 I don't know, man.

00:39:39.000 Before we got Dwayne, we had no coach.

00:39:41.000 It was just us coaching each other kind of thing.

00:39:44.000 Yeah, that's not usually the best thing.

00:39:46.000 No, we were just beating each other.

00:39:47.000 We were sparring four or five days a week.

00:39:49.000 Yeah, dude.

00:39:50.000 I picked up stuff fast because of it.

00:39:52.000 You had to learn how to fight.

00:39:54.000 I'm aggressive and I like that stuff, but it's not smart.

00:39:58.000 In terms of your overall weight and care.

00:40:01.000 Health.

00:40:01.000 Longevity in the sport.

00:40:06.000 I've turned into a real professional athlete sport instead of just going to the gym and going ham.

00:40:12.000 Everywhere from my diet, everywhere from the times I work out, my schedule, my recovery.

00:40:18.000 Luckily I'm having Dwayne that's able to travel out with me.

00:40:23.000 I built an awesome facility right now with Mark Munoz circling back around, being a coach, Daryl Christian, Felipe De Monica, and all these guys.

00:40:32.000 It's not money-driven, so it's doing great right now.

00:40:34.000 We're awesome.

00:40:36.000 We're doing awesome.

00:40:37.000 Yeah, he really does have a really good crew of people around him in all aspects.

00:40:41.000 And this is in, it's not your Belinda and you're there?

00:40:43.000 We're in Anaheim.

00:40:44.000 Oh, beautiful.

00:40:45.000 Yeah.

00:40:45.000 That's great.

00:40:46.000 So when the UFC's in Anaheim, you're a hop, skip, and a jump away.

00:40:49.000 Oh, yeah, we're right there.

00:40:50.000 I mean, even fighting in LA was nice.

00:40:52.000 I mean, you know, you didn't have to fly nowhere.

00:40:53.000 It was cool to fight in your backyard.

00:40:55.000 Dan Lambert did all this before anybody.

00:40:58.000 I mean, Dan Lambert, in terms of, like, throwing money at things and putting American Top Team together.

00:41:03.000 I mean, that guy, he spent a fuckload of money.

00:41:06.000 Put fighters on salary and... 0.94

00:41:09.000 And then recently built a giant place with dormitories and everything.

00:41:13.000 That guy, out of all the people, he's probably the pioneer of digging deep into his wallet and putting together a crazy gym set up like that.

00:41:22.000 But it's a different kind of crew.

00:41:24.000 You go down there, and there are a ton of world champions.

00:41:27.000 There's a ton of professional athletes.

00:41:30.000 You're not necessarily going to get the singular specified training that you're getting right now.

00:41:35.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:41:36.000 And then, but we're also really, so yeah, you could be really good and we want you in our gym, but if you have the right personality as well too.

00:41:41.000 It's not only about your skill to come and train with our gym and be a pro athlete there, but you also got a vibe with us.

00:41:46.000 Right.

00:41:47.000 If we don't have the vibe, then it's all, egos are going to get involved and the gym's going to split up. 0.99

00:41:51.000 This guy's going to go here, this guy's going to go there, so.

00:41:53.000 How do you determine that?

00:41:54.000 Do you get to know them first and then let them in the gym?

00:41:56.000 Yeah, we always let everyone in to see how they're going.

00:41:58.000 If they don't work out, then we tell them, like, hey, man, this isn't the spot for you.

00:42:01.000 We don't have an open spot for you.

00:42:03.000 You can see it, though, with the drills and the Dutch drills and just the drilling in general, how caring somebody is, right?

00:42:09.000 There's four rules I ask my guys to follow, and they're all rules that revolve around accountability.

00:42:14.000 It's show up on time, get better, get tired.

00:42:17.000 Take care of your partner.

00:42:18.000 You do those four simple things and we're good.

00:42:20.000 It's pretty simple.

00:42:21.000 Those are very good rules.

00:42:24.000 It's a sport that attracts people who are troubled.

00:42:27.000 Yeah, agreed.

00:42:29.000 Yeah, the Ronins, the misfits. 0.99

00:42:30.000 Yeah, and then a lot of people that have been abused, they want to get people back.

00:42:34.000 You know, there's a lot of that.

00:42:36.000 You remember a lot of, when I was younger, the more aggressive, meaner people, when you would find out more about them, you'd find out there was child abuse, dad used to beat him up, stepdad beat him up.

00:42:47.000 There was always something that they were trying to get back at people for.

00:42:51.000 I feel like the sport is changing enough now that it's a very common thing that kids want to do, and so now you have kids with a good upbringing wanting to do it.

00:43:00.000 Yeah, it's a challenging possible career now.

00:43:04.000 And a fighter, you know, a young kid coming up sees someone like you, and they go, okay, look at this guy.

00:43:08.000 He's a two-time world champion.

00:43:11.000 Super respectful, articulate, real friendly, doesn't have a chip on his shoulder, likes shaking hands and taking pictures and being around people. 1.00

00:43:19.000 Oh, you don't have to be an asshole. 1.00

00:43:21.000 You don't have to be some brooding asshole. 1.00

00:43:24.000 For sure. 1.00

00:43:24.000 I mean, you'll get paid for it more these days. 1.00

00:43:28.000 That's interesting, right? 1.00

00:43:29.000 You get paid more for being a complete asshole. 1.00

00:43:31.000 If you don't mind making a fool of yourself, then you'll get paid more. 1.00

00:43:35.000 Well, like Colby. 0.98

00:43:36.000 Yeah.

00:43:37.000 To the extreme, we're like, what?

00:43:39.000 Come on.

00:43:39.000 Colby's hilarious.

00:43:40.000 I don't know.

00:43:40.000 I think it's funny, man.

00:43:41.000 When he actually went to the fucking White House and put the thing on Donald Trump's desk, gave him the belt, I was like, that is hilarious. 0.99

00:43:48.000 He actually did it. 0.99

00:43:49.000 Yeah.

00:43:49.000 You know what would really, really be funny?

00:43:51.000 If it turns out this whole time he was a Democrat, and this was all just a big act, really super pro-gay rights, and pro-women's rights.

00:43:59.000 So if it would have been a Democrat in the office, he'd be a Democrat, and then, yeah.

00:44:02.000 Whoever's in the office hits who he's going to be.

00:44:03.000 Well, he's just doing it only specifically just for promotion.

00:44:08.000 Him and Tyron Woodley is going to be crazy.

00:44:11.000 That's going to be crazy.

00:44:13.000 So, you know the videos on the internet? 1.00

00:44:15.000 The one black dude that says, I'm Tyrone, and fuck this, or fuck that, whatever. 1.00

00:44:18.000 You know the internet guy? 1.00

00:44:20.000 Oh, they're hilarious.

00:44:21.000 Can you pull up one of those videos of Tyrone?

00:44:23.000 They're so funny.

00:44:24.000 It would have been funny.

00:44:26.000 I'm sorry? 0.99

00:44:26.000 Yeah, you've got to explain what the fuck you're talking about. 0.99

00:44:29.000 What am I searching? 1.00

00:44:30.000 Fuck Tyrone. 1.00

00:44:31.000 Fuck Tyrone. 1.00

00:44:32.000 He's hilarious, right? 1.00

00:44:33.000 He'll pull it up.

00:44:34.000 Is it Tommy Tohold?

00:44:36.000 No.

00:44:37.000 Do you know what I'm talking about, Jamie?

00:44:39.000 You do?

00:44:39.000 Thank goodness, because I have no idea.

00:44:42.000 Okay, so watch this first.

00:44:43.000 Watch one of these.

00:44:44.000 Okay, give me some...

00:44:45.000 Hold on, bring it from the beginning.

00:44:48.000 This is a long compilation of it.

00:44:51.000 He just kind of walks around and bullies people, sorta.

00:44:55.000 Kind of a joke.

00:44:56.000 Is that him though?

00:44:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:58.000 That's not the regular Tyrone, huh?

00:45:01.000 This is another one.

00:45:02.000 It's a different Tyrone.

00:45:02.000 This is a different guy?

00:45:03.000 Yeah, this is a different one.

00:45:04.000 The other one, he's a different guy.

00:45:08.000 No, he'll do a...

00:45:09.000 He'll go...

00:45:09.000 I mean, you're just typing Tyrone Black Dude in the internet.

00:45:12.000 I mean, you're going to get a lot of videos.

00:45:13.000 It's hilarious.

00:45:14.000 So it would have been funny because that's not the best clip.

00:45:17.000 Because if he would have won the belt...

00:45:19.000 Oh, no, he won the belt. 0.99

00:45:20.000 I'm Tyrone, and this is my motherfucking belt. 0.97

00:45:22.000 So if you watch these videos, an actual good video of the Tyrone, and if Tyrone would do that in the cage... 0.98

00:45:27.000 I've been thinking about this for a while. 0.91

00:45:29.000 That should have been so fucking funny. 0.99

00:45:31.000 But it's not funny because you don't know the damn videos. 1.00

00:45:33.000 Shit. 1.00

00:45:33.000 Jamie, pull that up. 1.00

00:45:34.000 What?

00:45:36.000 That's it.

00:45:37.000 I watched the Rogan show.

00:45:38.000 That was the guy.

00:45:39.000 I didn't mean to steal your line, Mr. Rogan.

00:45:41.000 Sorry, sir.

00:45:42.000 That's hilarious.

00:45:43.000 Yeah, he was almost after he won, like nothing happened.

00:45:47.000 Yeah.

00:45:48.000 He just knew it, right?

00:45:49.000 I'll fight anybody UFC wants me to fight.

00:45:50.000 But it's just weird, you know?

00:45:52.000 Is this another one?

00:45:52.000 That's him.

00:45:53.000 Is that the same guy?

00:45:53.000 Yeah.

00:45:55.000 This is one where he gets beat up for saying he's gonna fuck somebody's wife or something like that. 1.00

00:45:58.000 Oh, here it is. 0.99

00:46:03.000 What happened to that one?

00:46:16.000 I didn't make the video.

00:46:18.000 This is like terrible editing. 0.99

00:46:21.000 Who just does funny shit, right? 0.99

00:46:22.000 It seems like he's just mean and stealing. 0.99

00:46:25.000 I don't think that's funny, Dwayne.

00:46:26.000 No, they're funny.

00:46:27.000 They're funny.

00:46:28.000 He's a mean stealer. 1.00

00:46:30.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:46:31.000 Okay, let's kill this. 1.00

00:46:34.000 Not as funny as I thought. 0.93

00:46:35.000 Sorry, guys. 0.99

00:46:37.000 Shit. 0.99

00:46:37.000 It seems like a bad sketch. 0.99

00:46:39.000 Anyway, Tyron Woodley is not that guy.

00:46:42.000 No, he's not.

00:46:43.000 Although if he was, it would probably sell more tickets.

00:46:46.000 That's probably.

00:46:47.000 See, that's where it tied in from the Colby approach.

00:46:49.000 He's super calm and respectful afterwards.

00:46:51.000 It's hard to believe he was just in a cage fight.

00:46:53.000 Yeah.

00:46:54.000 Dude, he shut all that Darren Till hype up quick.

00:46:56.000 I knew he was going to win.

00:46:57.000 I would like to talk to Tyrone or Duke and see if...

00:47:00.000 Sorry to interrupt.

00:47:00.000 No, go ahead.

00:47:01.000 And because of how he caught him.

00:47:02.000 Because Darren Till...

00:47:03.000 I made a video about this.

00:47:04.000 How Darren Till typically likes to faint and pump and get the guy backing up.

00:47:08.000 Get them out of position and then land the cross. 0.50

00:47:10.000 You know, from open stance from Southpaw.

00:47:12.000 And there is a slight delay between those two to three punches that he throws.

00:47:16.000 And I'm wondering if Tyrone did his research and seen that.

00:47:19.000 Tyrone.

00:47:20.000 Did he say Tyrone?

00:47:21.000 Not Tyrone?

00:47:21.000 It's not Tyrone.

00:47:22.000 Mr. Woodley.

00:47:23.000 Right?

00:47:24.000 Tyron Woodley.

00:47:25.000 Tyron?

00:47:25.000 I say Tyron.

00:47:26.000 There's no need.

00:47:27.000 So now the joke wouldn't have been as funny.

00:47:28.000 Tyron.

00:47:28.000 So that's what you're saying.

00:47:31.000 Tyron.

00:47:33.000 I'm wondering if you read that from watching the videos previously and seeing that little gap in his combination and was able to beat him to the punch or if he just duck and chucked.

00:47:41.000 I'm curious to see if that was something they trained and sought out or... 0.96

00:47:45.000 Because that takes balls, right?

00:47:47.000 He's coming in with his strongest punch, his cross, that he's knocked many people out with and he just stepped into it and beat him to the punch. 0.97

00:47:53.000 That takes balls. 1.00

00:47:54.000 Tyron, he always does that strategy of standing against the fence or close to the fence and then when guys move any counters. 0.90

00:48:01.000 He did that with Josh Kosciak.

00:48:03.000 He's done that with a lot of guys.

00:48:05.000 And Rory McDonough was the only guy to shut that down.

00:48:08.000 He figured out a way to shut it down.

00:48:09.000 He stayed long.

00:48:10.000 Stayed long, used a lot of front kicks, a lot of jabs, kept his left hand up high to block the right hand, you know, the big right hand.

00:48:19.000 But man, Tyron's just faster than him, way faster than him.

00:48:22.000 Close distance so quick. 0.99

00:48:24.000 Like lightning, landed that right hand, beat the shit out of him on the ground. 0.89

00:48:27.000 It was just shocking to me that Darren didn't know what to do when he was on his back. 0.94

00:48:33.000 That's how I thought the fight was going to go.

00:48:35.000 Him just be on top of him the whole fight.

00:48:37.000 I thought Tyron was just going to outwrestle him and be on top.

00:48:40.000 I thought maybe that was part of the strategy too, especially when you saw them warming up because Tyron was doing a lot of exchanges and then shoots for a double or closes the distance, level changes.

00:48:50.000 They did that when he was working with boxing coaches as well.

00:48:54.000 He would hit the mitts and then move in, level change.

00:48:58.000 But I was just, like, Till didn't understand that Darce was coming, or didn't know.

00:49:02.000 But then you gotta wonder, how battered was he?

00:49:05.000 Took that big shot, took a lot of hard elbows on the ground.

00:49:08.000 How much was he really there?

00:49:09.000 That's a beauty, I'm sorry?

00:49:11.000 No, I was gonna say, because that Darce was a mile away. 0.99

00:49:13.000 I mean, it was there, and then it was there, and then he cinched it up deep.

00:49:16.000 It was never, like, there was never any separation, never pulling the hands back.

00:49:21.000 I think Tyron's a lot stronger than him, too, able to hold him in that position, you know? 0.95

00:49:25.000 He's a freak. 0.99

00:49:26.000 He's a beast. 1.00

00:49:27.000 The reason why he's the champion.

00:49:28.000 But I think that's the way I choose to look at it anyway is having a checklist.

00:49:33.000 If you were to build up a mixed martial artist, how much information should they know standing, wrestling, and then on the ground? 0.97

00:49:39.000 And they should just check, check, check, and know all these basics should be covered before you go fight.

00:49:43.000 That's the beauty of having a curriculum and, again, a checklist.

00:49:47.000 No, I absolutely agree with you.

00:49:49.000 I think, you know, understanding...

00:49:50.000 I mean, the days of just, like, being able to just fight someone and not know anything about them, that seems kind of foolish.

00:49:56.000 It seems like a massive advantage to study.

00:49:59.000 Like, when Cowboy fought Darren Till, he decided to not watch any tape on him.

00:50:04.000 He's like, you know, I hear he's a striker.

00:50:05.000 Good.

00:50:06.000 I love to strike.

00:50:07.000 I'm like, oof.

00:50:08.000 Might want to watch this striker.

00:50:11.000 I'll watch tape in the beginning with Dwayne, but then I kind of let him continue from there.

00:50:15.000 And I trust his judgment on everything.

00:50:17.000 And then when I'm out of fight camp, because sometimes when you watch tape in fight camp, it can mess with people's heads.

00:50:23.000 Maybe Cowboy's getting too nervous, and it gives him anxiety to watch the fight.

00:50:28.000 So if that's the case, have a coach that you trust to do that for you.

00:50:34.000 That's a good point. 1.00

00:50:35.000 This fucking sport's a mental mindfuck, man. 1.00

00:50:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:39.000 Of course. 1.00

00:50:40.000 Whatever works the best for you, is that what you've got to figure out? 0.96

00:50:43.000 Is it better for you to fight someone like Cody that you have all this animosity and beef towards and all this shit-talking because you get super hyped up and motivated every day?

00:50:53.000 Or is it better to fight someone who you have a lot of respect for, who is just a good challenge?

00:51:00.000 I think you've got to learn to be the same person for every fight.

00:51:04.000 I think it's like, control those emotions.

00:51:07.000 Even though there was all that coming in, like, I'm nervous to fight. 0.99

00:51:10.000 Forget all the bullshit. 0.99

00:51:11.000 And I had to learn that through my career. 0.99

00:51:13.000 I had to learn to take emotion out of it.

00:51:15.000 I mean, even in sparring still.

00:51:17.000 Dwayne's always told me, control my emotion.

00:51:19.000 Control aggression. 0.98

00:51:20.000 Because you hit me, I want to hit you back. 0.98

00:51:22.000 I'm very competitive.

00:51:23.000 So it's something you have to learn how to control.

00:51:25.000 And I've had to do that throughout my career.

00:51:28.000 I think everyone has to learn to control either to let go or to pull back.

00:51:34.000 Really control that emotion to be the same person every fight.

00:51:39.000 Mentally.

00:51:40.000 Not the same person every fight, but mentally in your own head the same person.

00:51:44.000 Technically, you need to be able to switch it up.

00:51:46.000 The mental aspect of it is probably the thing that holds more people back than anything.

00:51:50.000 We all know of guys that are just monsters in the gym and for whatever it Was when they would go to compete, they just could never be their full self.

00:52:00.000 TJ does better in the cage than he does in the gym.

00:52:03.000 I did better in the gym than in the cage.

00:52:07.000 What do you think it is that makes you do better?

00:52:09.000 I love it.

00:52:10.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:52:11.000 I've just taught myself to love this shit. 1.00

00:52:13.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:52:14.000 When I get out there, it's just like I want to be there.

00:52:16.000 I know everyone's nervous and it's the highest highs, but I used to be so nervous that I'd forget what happened in the fight.

00:52:23.000 But throughout my career, I think after the Mike Easton fight is when I really started to hone in.

00:52:28.000 Or during the Mike Easton fight is when I really started to hone in and have fun. 1.00

00:52:31.000 And just realized, fuck this shit, man. 1.00

00:52:33.000 What's the worst that's going to happen? 1.00

00:52:34.000 Are you going to get knocked out?

00:52:36.000 Roll for it.

00:52:36.000 Have some fun.

00:52:37.000 Where is Mike Easton?

00:52:38.000 I don't know.

00:52:40.000 That guy hasn't been around for a while.

00:52:41.000 Yeah, I'm not really sure.

00:52:43.000 There's a possible super fight with you and Henry Cejudo that's being talked about.

00:52:47.000 Hell yeah.

00:52:47.000 Would you fight him at 125?

00:52:49.000 25s.

00:52:49.000 Yeah.

00:52:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:52:50.000 I don't want no excuses that I'm the bigger man.

00:52:52.000 Well, he probably is bigger than you, quite honestly.

00:52:55.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:52:55.000 He struggles to get down to 25. 25. He's way over 35. Especially with the coach I have now, Sam Calvita.

00:53:03.000 I was told I was going to fight Demetrius Johnson the summer before I fought Cody the first time because Cody had to pull out because of his back.

00:53:10.000 Within three weeks of time, I got down to waking up to 140 pounds by changing the way I'm working out, changing my calories, changing my maconutrients, and just going full bore.

00:53:19.000 I was able to start waking up in the morning at 140 pounds within three weeks.

00:53:22.000 And so, right now, you're about 10 plus pounds heavier than that, and how much time would you need, like, if they said, hey, December 31st, New Year's Eve, super five, what?

00:53:32.000 Yeah, my coach always wants, like, the, like, actual, like, he told me, like, before, after my last fight, I mean, he's 16 weeks, but, I mean, obviously, we could do it a lot faster.

00:53:39.000 I could have made 25s this last fight, with how much water I had in me, the hydration that he's got me going on when I get close to a fight, too, is...

00:53:47.000 It's the easiest.

00:53:48.000 I don't do baths anymore.

00:53:51.000 To make weight, I walked on the treadmill with plastics.

00:53:54.000 For how long?

00:53:56.000 The day of, I'd say 30 minutes.

00:53:59.000 I sat in a sauna a little bit.

00:54:00.000 So you're only losing like four or five pounds most, right?

00:54:03.000 Yeah, in the morning.

00:54:03.000 Yeah, probably like three or four or five pounds.

00:54:05.000 Yeah.

00:54:05.000 Wow.

00:54:06.000 That's a massive benefit to you in terms of your conditioning.

00:54:10.000 Oh, huge.

00:54:11.000 And having fluid on your brain, your cardio, your muscular contraction and endurance.

00:54:17.000 I mean, everything.

00:54:18.000 I mean, when you deplete yourself like that, like you're talking about Darren Till maybe cutting too much weight, that could definitely be a possibility.

00:54:23.000 For sure.

00:54:24.000 I mean, he's huge.

00:54:25.000 Mm-hmm.

00:54:25.000 Till's a big guy to get down to 170. Yeah.

00:54:29.000 Yeah, I mean, that is the...

00:54:30.000 It's trying to find the right balance where you're big for the weight class, but you're not diminishing yourself really drastically to get down to your weight class.

00:54:39.000 And the Henry Cejudo thing also entertains me so much because he's a gold medalist.

00:54:43.000 He wants to claim himself as the greatest combat athlete ever.

00:54:46.000 I'm a UFC champion.

00:54:46.000 I'm a gold medalist.

00:54:48.000 I'll go out there and beat you in wrestling. 1.00

00:54:49.000 MMA wrestling is completely different.

00:54:51.000 I'm the better athlete.

00:54:52.000 I can beat him anywhere.

00:54:53.000 I know I can.

00:54:54.000 I'm watching him fight.

00:54:55.000 So that's what I'm very excited about.

00:54:57.000 I think it's the greatest thing for my name right now.

00:55:01.000 It excites me a lot, too, to be able to show the science behind not only myself and my coach and Dwayne and the system.

00:55:09.000 I'm all in, dude.

00:55:10.000 Whatever we're doing, I'm 100% in.

00:55:12.000 I don't take any shortcuts.

00:55:14.000 And I want to show that.

00:55:15.000 I want to show that I can make 25s and be my best ever as well.

00:55:18.000 Now, Demetrius is injured, right?

00:55:21.000 He's out for a little while.

00:55:22.000 So this is one of the reasons why the talk of this superfight is coming up.

00:55:27.000 Demetrius is going to need a few months, so he can't have an immediate rematch.

00:55:31.000 Perfect.

00:55:32.000 Have they talked to you about it?

00:55:33.000 Proposed? 0.99

00:55:35.000 There's nothing been serious, but there's been hints, and we did our media tour together, and they put us on camera together, and had us talk shit to each other. 0.99

00:55:43.000 Oh, nice. 0.95

00:55:44.000 I mean, they didn't say that, you know what I mean?

00:55:46.000 Because everything's real. 0.99

00:55:47.000 Everything we do is real, but it's like, oh shit, this is what you guys want. 1.00

00:55:50.000 And you really think you can beat me? 1.00

00:55:51.000 Then fuck you, man. 1.00

00:55:52.000 Let's do this shit. 1.00

00:55:53.000 That's where I get my motivation from, from fighting, is not the anger, it's the competition. 1.00

00:56:00.000 And does he want to go to 35?

00:56:02.000 He told me face-to-face he's willing to do it at 25s.

00:56:05.000 25?

00:56:05.000 Yeah.

00:56:06.000 That's what he first said after the fight.

00:56:07.000 He wanted the super fight, right?

00:56:09.000 That's what his idea is.

00:56:10.000 So he said come to 35s.

00:56:12.000 I told him, look, if we're doing this, I'm coming to 25s.

00:56:14.000 He said, I have no problem with that.

00:56:15.000 He's got more street credit to drop a division or change a division.

00:56:19.000 It's TJ, right?

00:56:20.000 Hell yeah.

00:56:21.000 Yeah, it gives you more street credit for sure.

00:56:22.000 And no excuses of the bigger man. 0.99

00:56:24.000 I don't want him to come to 35s and whip his ass and be like, Oh, because he's a 35-pounder. 0.99

00:56:28.000 He's a 35-pounder, too. 1.00

00:56:29.000 I'll whip your ass. 1.00

00:56:31.000 He's a huge 125-er. 1.00

00:56:33.000 He really is.

00:56:34.000 I mean, you take out the weight cutting, there's not much difference between you two guys.

00:56:37.000 Other than how much better I am. 1.00

00:56:39.000 Oh, shit! 1.00

00:56:41.000 Oh, shit! 1.00

00:56:42.000 But that's true. 1.00

00:56:42.000 Ooh, Henry, hang on. 1.00

00:56:44.000 But when you saw him and Demetrius together, I mean, he's a much bigger person.

00:56:48.000 Yeah, he's thick.

00:56:51.000 How much weight does he lose?

00:56:53.000 Who's that?

00:56:54.000 Suhudo? 0.75

00:56:54.000 Yeah, Suhudo. 0.75

00:56:55.000 I don't know.

00:56:56.000 Good question.

00:56:56.000 He's got to be in the 50s.

00:56:57.000 When he shows up to fight week, he looks like he's cutting weight already, you know?

00:57:01.000 When I show up to fight week, I haven't even really started yet.

00:57:04.000 Wow.

00:57:05.000 Yeah, I mean, for your pace and your endurance, that's got to be a big benefit to know that your body's 100% healthy going in there in terms of, like, not being dehydrated. 0.98

00:57:14.000 And there's so many guys, you see them on the day of the weigh-in, you go, I don't know how the fuck you're going to fight in 24 hours.

00:57:20.000 I think head trauma is a lot more prevalent when you're dehydrated. 0.88

00:57:23.000 Going through camp, I've known some guys that have cut a lot of weight and it's already hindered their careers because you're having those all-out spars.

00:57:33.000 You have to go as hard as you can in sparring when you're ready for a fight.

00:57:37.000 You're going for your timing.

00:57:38.000 You're fighting.

00:57:39.000 You don't do it all the time.

00:57:41.000 There's times to do it.

00:57:42.000 When you're sparring, you're sparring like a fight.

00:57:45.000 For the most part.

00:57:47.000 Larger gloves?

00:57:48.000 Yeah, no.

00:57:49.000 We've been doing smaller gloves now, but those puffies that I have, they are, I feel like, as padded as my 16s.

00:57:56.000 It depends where they put the padding.

00:58:00.000 The padding on the knuckles is thicker, if not thicker than 16-ounce gloves.

00:58:03.000 What company's glove do you use for that?

00:58:05.000 Santa Ball.

00:58:06.000 Santa Ball?

00:58:06.000 Santa Ball, yeah.

00:58:08.000 Where's that from?

00:58:09.000 Well, their office is in New York, but the guy, the owner is living out here in California.

00:58:14.000 Is that a new company?

00:58:15.000 It's been around.

00:58:16.000 It's somewhat new.

00:58:17.000 It's not brand new.

00:58:18.000 I think they've been around since 2014. They make great stuff.

00:58:22.000 I mean, their puffy sparring gloves are awesome to be able to get...

00:58:26.000 To get real rounds in.

00:58:28.000 Because when I grapple, I can't do 4MA rounds with big puffy gloves on.

00:58:31.000 With boxing gloves.

00:58:32.000 Yeah, with boxing gloves on.

00:58:33.000 But with those, they're puffy around the knuckles, but you can still grip with them.

00:58:36.000 Yeah, you can still grip with them.

00:58:38.000 You got everything.

00:58:38.000 I mean, the only thing that's different is the padding on your...

00:58:41.000 You don't throw them, but hammer fists or your thumb.

00:58:43.000 You got to be careful with your thumb.

00:58:44.000 So you really have to be accurate with your punches.

00:58:47.000 Right.

00:58:47.000 And does it fuck with you if you're working submissions with the extra padding on the knuckles?

00:58:52.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.99

00:58:53.000 I mean, rear naked chokes are harder to get the hand behind the head. 0.99

00:58:56.000 Guys can get out of submissions easier because they can grab more of the glove even though they're not supposed to. 0.73

00:59:01.000 Can I say something real quick?

00:59:03.000 Because TJ was saying, you know, he spars hard sometimes, right?

00:59:05.000 So I try to have my guys, if you know what I'm saying, so sparring hard, because you do have to spar hard, but we would have him do that once a week.

00:59:12.000 But we do a whole bunch of sparring drills throughout the week as well to get better technically, understand the distance and the timing.

00:59:18.000 But you do need to spar hard, but it's not like you're...

00:59:21.000 If you're not hurting the guy, if he's rocked or whatever, you're not going to knock him out.

00:59:24.000 But you're throwing with good force too because you do have to experience that for sure.

00:59:28.000 If he's rocked, you just hit him to the body.

00:59:30.000 For sure, yeah. 0.73

00:59:31.000 If you rock him and hurt him to the body.

00:59:33.000 And that's one thing I'll say, if you get hurt to the body, work out of that as well.

00:59:37.000 Don't take a knee.

00:59:38.000 Yeah.

00:59:38.000 I wanted to make sure that was clear because that's one of the things I feel I've been able to do is dissect the chaos of a fight and slowly manipulate it so we can actually understand the layers and get better at it.

00:59:48.000 And that helped a lot with the actual drilling and sparring, drilling and sparring and then the fight itself.

00:59:52.000 So understand that ladder process.

00:59:53.000 Have you ever found any core drills or ab drills that allow you to absorb punches or kicks better?

01:00:01.000 Is there anything that you've shown that you've ever figured out that really does?

01:00:03.000 I don't know if it helps, but we do it.

01:00:05.000 I mean, our coach throws medicine balls against it.

01:00:08.000 We're doing motion movements or bouncing on a tire or doing almost like a burpee motion or something, getting back to your feet and slamming a big medicine ball into your stomach.

01:00:16.000 I mean, I just think the impact without hurting yourself is going to help ultimately.

01:00:22.000 And then just having a stronger core in general.

01:00:24.000 I think...

01:00:26.000 I think core is by far the most important in MMA and Jiu Jitsu and in grappling.

01:00:30.000 It's your core strength.

01:00:32.000 It's how strong your core is.

01:00:33.000 Because I can go and lift weights and this guy is going to be way stronger than me doing bench or doing deadlifts, whatever it may be. 0.99

01:00:39.000 But we get on the mat and he's like, dude, how the fuck are you so strong? 0.97

01:00:42.000 I think it's all core. 0.96

01:00:44.000 It certainly has a lot to do with kicking power.

01:00:47.000 It's so much of it.

01:00:48.000 It's not just the legs.

01:00:49.000 It's the ability to whip the hips into it. 1.00

01:00:52.000 All this.

01:00:52.000 That's all your core.

01:00:54.000 And your cardio.

01:00:55.000 It controls your breathing.

01:00:56.000 I think it's...

01:00:58.000 I really believe core is everything.

01:00:59.000 What kind of exercises are you doing for that?

01:01:02.000 This is endless.

01:01:03.000 I mean, a lot of medicine ball stuff.

01:01:05.000 Are you doing different things with Mr. Calavita than you were doing before?

01:01:08.000 Yes.

01:01:09.000 Yeah, completely. 1.00

01:01:11.000 Actually, this shit's crazy. 1.00

01:01:13.000 It's straight up crazy, man. 1.00

01:01:14.000 The first time I showed up, I knew it was going to be hard.

01:01:18.000 Everyone was telling me, you go hard.

01:01:20.000 I've never gone as hard as this guy pushes me.

01:01:24.000 Ever in my life, from all the years of me practicing or competing, but you can only do it so many times.

01:01:29.000 You can't do it all the time.

01:01:31.000 And he knows when the next practice should be easier or when we're going to have those days where I'm for sure going to throw up.

01:01:36.000 Right.

01:01:36.000 Or what days I'm pushing the sled up the hill.

01:01:39.000 We do a lot of cycling now.

01:01:42.000 I'm on the bike constantly, but it's not only...

01:01:45.000 For low base, it's certain power intervals.

01:01:47.000 Are you doing distance, like actual bike on the road?

01:01:50.000 Yeah, I do that too.

01:01:51.000 So if I fight 25s, I'll be doing a lot of road work. 0.59

01:01:54.000 Running, swimming.

01:01:56.000 To make 25s, I'll be a triathlete as well. 0.99

01:01:59.000 I'll be doing some Cameron Haynes shit. 0.96

01:02:01.000 I won't be running that far, but I'll be trying to act like Cameron Haynes to get smaller. 0.99

01:02:05.000 But...

01:02:07.000 Yeah, so I think the bike work does a lot for our core as well, too, because your core is not only your stomach.

01:02:12.000 Your core is from your hamstrings up to your back, throughout your stomach.

01:02:16.000 It controls a lot.

01:02:17.000 So even doing the bike work is a lot of core work as well, too.

01:02:21.000 Yeah, people don't realize that sometimes when you have lower back pain, it's because your hamstrings are too tight.

01:02:25.000 You tell them that, and I'm like, what?

01:02:27.000 And then they learn how to stretch out their hamstrings, and they're like, yeah, my back feels better.

01:02:32.000 That's what yoga's all about, man.

01:02:33.000 Hell yeah.

01:02:34.000 We do yoga.

01:02:35.000 I mean, everything.

01:02:35.000 I mean, there's so much beyond what we have to do.

01:02:38.000 And how long has this guy been doing this?

01:02:41.000 Mark Munoz was his first project in MMA. He wrestled.

01:02:45.000 So he was a wrestler, wrestled, always been around wrestling, always helped Mark with his wrestling camps, his kids wrestle.

01:02:52.000 He's got that wrestling mentality, but then he's just a genius as well.

01:02:56.000 And so his first project was Mark Munoz when he was making weight and looking shredded, the Tim Boach fight, things like that.

01:03:02.000 That was when he first started helping out.

01:03:04.000 So that's why it's called the training lab as well, spelled with rain in the middle.

01:03:08.000 It's because he was attached to Mark Munoz's gym and helping him out.

01:03:11.000 And Mark Munoz's gym, for people who don't know, was called RAIN. Yes, RAIN, yeah.

01:03:15.000 And so it's funny, it's come full circle.

01:03:17.000 I mean, Mark Munoz is the one that talked me into fighting.

01:03:19.000 He was my coach at Cal State Fullerton Wrestling.

01:03:22.000 And he was in the UFC at the time.

01:03:23.000 He was my assistant coach.

01:03:25.000 After I graduated college, like all bummed out.

01:03:27.000 I didn't do like what I should have.

01:03:28.000 And so I didn't feel like I was done competing. 0.93

01:03:30.000 I started following Mark around and doing jujitsu and all this shit.

01:03:33.000 And I was actually enrolled in grad school at the same time to become a physician's assistant.

01:03:36.000 He pretty much talked me into dropping out of school and giving fighting a chance because he thought I'd be good at it.

01:03:41.000 And now it's come full circle and now he's our coach again.

01:03:44.000 Wow.

01:03:44.000 Yeah.

01:03:45.000 He's got some awesome MMA flow drills.

01:03:47.000 Mark Munoz.

01:03:47.000 He's got wrestling for MMA. You can't just be an awesome wrestler and come in and teach MMA wrestling.

01:03:54.000 You've got to know how to punch.

01:03:55.000 You've got to know the jiu-jitsu aspects of it.

01:03:58.000 MMA wrestling is its own sport.

01:04:00.000 Yeah, well, there's certainly rules that you have to follow that you don't have to follow in regular wrestling.

01:04:05.000 You know, that's the case with jiu-jitsu as well.

01:04:07.000 It certainly helps to learn jiu-jitsu.

01:04:10.000 One of the things I don't know if you guys are paying attention to, but Eddie Bravo came up with a thing called combat jiu-jitsu, which is sort of an intermediary step between regular jiu-jitsu and MMA. And it's basically jiu-jitsu with bitch slaps. 0.95

01:04:22.000 Pancreas. 0.99

01:04:22.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:04:23.000 Pow! 0.99

01:04:23.000 Yeah, but some of those bitch slaps, you get with the palms, right? 0.99

01:04:26.000 Well, Boss figured out how to do it. 0.99

01:04:28.000 He figured out how to pull his hands way back, and he was basically punching you with his palm, where you could hit anybody anywhere.

01:04:34.000 You could hit him in the forehead, you don't have to worry about your knuckles.

01:04:37.000 I feel like that's harder than my MMA glove.

01:04:39.000 Yeah, I think so, too.

01:04:41.000 Yeah, I mean, you could really put a beating on somebody with your palms.

01:04:43.000 Boss is an innovator, for sure.

01:04:45.000 He's always thinking.

01:04:46.000 He taught me how to think, how to be open-minded and figure stuff out.

01:04:50.000 Yeah, so here it is.

01:04:51.000 This is combat jiu-jitsu.

01:04:53.000 That's a guy on the ground, I think.

01:04:55.000 I hope.

01:04:55.000 See, now, that's one of the things, too, like how Donaher was saying...

01:04:59.000 This is otherwise...

01:05:01.000 That's where the whole ankle attacking the leg situation changes when it's an actual fight and you have punches, right?

01:05:09.000 You want to watch attacking those legs. 1.00

01:05:11.000 I mean, you open up things the same way you would open up things with punches.

01:05:16.000 You know, there it is.

01:05:17.000 Bam.

01:05:18.000 Is that one of my affiliate students from Montana with the blonde hair?

01:05:22.000 Wagner Roach has stopped quite a few people.

01:05:24.000 Well, he's stopped at least one person with just the slaps, but he's used those slaps.

01:05:29.000 You know, and Wagner has a...

01:05:31.000 He's got a big advantage in being a high-level MMA fighter as well, heading into this.

01:05:36.000 But they're...

01:05:38.000 The idea behind it was created by Eddie because he wanted to make it just a little bit more realistic on the ground, just add this other element to it.

01:05:46.000 Because there's times where guys are going for leg locks, and your face is wide open, you're committing both your arms to the person's leg, and that person's in a position where they can just smash your face.

01:05:57.000 And if you're used to that in the jiu-jitsu gym where a guy can't punch you, and you just think you're safe, and you always practice in that way.

01:06:05.000 Yes, thank you. 0.97

01:06:05.000 Combats jujitsu is a real wake-up call when you're just getting fucking hammered in the head. 0.97

01:06:10.000 It's like our jujitsu instructor at our academy, Sam Coutts, he teaches jujitsu for self-defense.

01:06:16.000 And then he asks you, if you want to compete in jujitsu, then he teaches you different jujitsu.

01:06:19.000 He wants to find out.

01:06:21.000 Why did you come here?

01:06:22.000 You want to get better, you want self-defense, you want to compete because there's a different way you have to approach things for sure.

01:06:27.000 Which is why TJ can be on the same mat with regular students in my gym because he's doing slightly of a different drill in combination with more contact than the average person.

01:06:37.000 So you'll get out what you put in.

01:06:38.000 And in your academy, do you have everything there?

01:06:42.000 Do you have submission instruction, wrestling, or do you go different places for your jiu-jitsu?

01:06:47.000 How do you do it?

01:06:48.000 The only thing I do not at my gym is my jiu-jitsu.

01:06:51.000 I go to Gracie Baja in Irvine with Felipe De Monica.

01:06:54.000 Great spot.

01:06:55.000 Yeah, man.

01:06:56.000 He's a straight-up ninja.

01:06:57.000 He knows jiu-jitsu for MMA. Just like you were saying, Mark Munoz wrestling for MMA, and I probably have striking for MMA. TJ has a really good camp around him.

01:07:06.000 I would have liked to be in his position.

01:07:07.000 Now, with the understanding of martial arts, I'm not going to hijack the podcast.

01:07:10.000 Sorry.

01:07:10.000 No, you're good.

01:07:11.000 Dude, I'm just so happy for him.

01:07:12.000 Stop the podcast!

01:07:14.000 Well, it's his time, right?

01:07:15.000 I'm not even willing to shut the hell up.

01:07:16.000 No, it's your time too, man. 1.00

01:07:18.000 I mean, like I told him the other day, we were texting about, like, damn, you were meant for this shit. 1.00

01:07:21.000 Send me a sick-ass video. 1.00

01:07:22.000 It's like, dude, this is our journey, though, you know? 0.99

01:07:24.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:07:25.000 This is, I'm not doing this shit alone. 0.99

01:07:26.000 If I was doing it alone, it'd be a lot harder. 0.99

01:07:28.000 I'm not saying I couldn't do it, but I wouldn't be to this level.

01:07:30.000 I wouldn't be who I am.

01:07:31.000 I told him this is our journey, you know? 0.99

01:07:33.000 I mean, that's why this shit works, because I don't have a bigger ego. 0.99

01:07:36.000 I'm not like, whatever, you know? 0.99

01:07:38.000 Me and Dwayne really see eye to eye.

01:07:39.000 I want him to be the best.

01:07:41.000 Yeah, I love this guy.

01:07:41.000 He's family now.

01:07:41.000 But it's so critical, the relationship that you guys have, because I think he can add so much in terms of what he understands, and your acceptance of him and your appreciation of him allows you guys to fully integrate to this one project of TJ Dillashaw world champion, making you the best you can be.

01:08:00.000 If there was any sort of conflict, or you've got to be number one, or you don't want to listen to him, I'm going to do what I want to do today. 0.97

01:08:06.000 That shit happens all the time with coaches and fighters. 0.97

01:08:08.000 And then sometimes you don't hear about it until after the fight. 0.99

01:08:11.000 And you're like, what happened?

01:08:12.000 I've got to tell you, man.

01:08:13.000 He wouldn't show up for training.

01:08:14.000 He was this and that.

01:08:15.000 He's got this new girlfriend.

01:08:17.000 She's pregnant. 1.00

01:08:19.000 That's why I'm all in, because TJ's all in.

01:08:21.000 I don't have a vast stable of fighters.

01:08:24.000 I have a few guys that float through my place, right?

01:08:26.000 I work with them a little bit here and there.

01:08:27.000 But TJ's all in, so I'm all in.

01:08:30.000 Now, one of the benefits of being in Colorado was the altitude.

01:08:34.000 You don't think so?

01:08:36.000 No.

01:08:36.000 It depends where you fight.

01:08:37.000 What do you think?

01:08:38.000 Because you can train a lot harder at sea level.

01:08:40.000 Your body gets a little more dense.

01:08:42.000 The oxygen and your recovery at sea level is way better.

01:08:46.000 When I first started going up to Colorado and training at altitude, I felt like my body wasn't recovering.

01:08:50.000 I felt older, man.

01:08:52.000 Because of the lack of air up there.

01:08:53.000 Yeah.

01:08:54.000 I think the lack of rebuilding myself.

01:08:56.000 We do altitude training.

01:08:58.000 We do altitude.

01:08:59.000 It's called Alto Lab.

01:09:00.000 Something I breathe into at certain times, certain time lengths.

01:09:04.000 Like different intervals throughout training camp.

01:09:09.000 Instead of living and breathing altitude, I'd rather get the recovery and the hard training from sea level and then use the altitude to get in that hypoxic state.

01:09:18.000 So the reason why less oxygen in the air, you create more red blood cells.

01:09:22.000 And the more red blood cells you have, the more oxygen you transport.

01:09:25.000 And so they're thinking if you go down to sea level, you're going to have more oxygen in transport.

01:09:29.000 but your body hasn't able to train as hard and recover as it can at sea level and then use the hypoxic state by breathing in this machine To get the red blood cell production Okay, so you can get the benefits of altitude without having to live there What I had heard is that the best move was to train at sea level but live at altitude I don't think your recovery is good enough.

01:09:55.000 From what my coaches told me.

01:09:57.000 Well, it makes sense.

01:09:59.000 It's making sense.

01:10:00.000 What do you think about those tents?

01:10:02.000 Where people sleep in those tents?

01:10:05.000 I've tried one.

01:10:06.000 I feel it's hard to sleep.

01:10:08.000 Yeah?

01:10:08.000 Why?

01:10:09.000 Because you're pumping it up.

01:10:10.000 So it gets hot in there, for one. 1.00

01:10:11.000 Plus you start thinking like that scene in Psycho with the fucking chicks in the shower. 1.00

01:10:16.000 Surrounded by shower curtains. 1.00

01:10:17.000 Just have nightmares and shit every day. 0.99

01:10:20.000 But no, when you're not breathing as much oxygen, you don't feel recovered and you don't get a restful night's sleep. 0.99

01:10:27.000 I see what you're saying.

01:10:28.000 Now that totally makes sense.

01:10:30.000 Yeah, you definitely feel the difference.

01:10:33.000 And it totally makes sense that you would be able to train harder at sea level.

01:10:36.000 You can push your body to that super far extreme that you wouldn't be able to get there At altitude.

01:10:43.000 But if you live at altitude for a few years, doesn't your body totally normalize to that?

01:10:47.000 Yeah, but then I'll be fighting at sea level.

01:10:50.000 Right.

01:10:50.000 You know, I don't...

01:10:51.000 You don't know.

01:10:52.000 Yeah, I don't know enough behind it.

01:10:54.000 That's just what I was told.

01:10:55.000 I knew no matter where I'd fight...

01:10:57.000 Sorry, Ninja.

01:10:57.000 Yeah, you're good.

01:10:57.000 I knew no matter where I fought that I would always be ready to go because I was born and raised in Colorado, so I didn't care where I was.

01:11:03.000 One of my goals was to get tired because I knew if I was tired that that motherfucker was dead tired, so let's go. 0.98

01:11:09.000 You guys like Calavita make my head hurt. 0.99

01:11:13.000 Dude, he's awesome.

01:11:14.000 But thinking about all these different things that he's got, you go on and thinking about all his, the planning that must be involved.

01:11:20.000 It's a full-time job.

01:11:21.000 It's a straight-up full-time job.

01:11:23.000 Even the juicing I do every day.

01:11:25.000 If he didn't do my meal prep, it'd be impossible.

01:11:28.000 Unless, obviously, my wife was doing it all. 1.00

01:11:31.000 It'd be impossible to get all that done.

01:11:34.000 It's so much.

01:11:35.000 And how many athletes is he working with?

01:11:38.000 It's a pretty small group, I mean, and it's growing now, because obviously the name is growing, and more athletes that we're getting along with.

01:11:43.000 And still doing it at his garage?

01:11:44.000 Yeah, it's called the garage.

01:11:45.000 We do it at the gym as well, too, but there's a small group of guys that still go to his garage and do it there.

01:11:51.000 It's kind of like our varsity team, I guess you would say, you know?

01:11:55.000 Once you've proved yourself enough in the gym, you can get, which has happened, guys have come to our gym, they've worked out with us, we've got along with them, they become like, you know, family, and then we bring them into the garage.

01:12:06.000 So I'd say he's got, let's see, Cub, Juan, Aaron Pico, Syed, Spike, I don't know, I'd say we've probably got like, Eight, nine guys that will come to his garage and work out.

01:12:20.000 That's a great group right there.

01:12:21.000 Just have an Aaron Pico with you.

01:12:23.000 That's gotta help.

01:12:24.000 Future world champion, without a doubt.

01:12:26.000 He's a savage.

01:12:27.000 Not only how good he is technically, but mentally too.

01:12:31.000 I'm competitive, I go hard, and he's to another extreme.

01:12:36.000 Really?

01:12:37.000 Dude, it's great.

01:12:38.000 We do this hand peddler for distance at the garage.

01:12:41.000 We're on a decline, so we're downhill, and we're doing this hand peddler for distance and how far we can go.

01:12:47.000 Who gets to a mile first wins, and I thought he won the world title when he beat me.

01:12:53.000 I just stood up like, Yeah!

01:12:54.000 Like pretty much what I did to Cody.

01:12:56.000 Yelling in my face after the fight.

01:12:58.000 Or after the hand peddler that he won.

01:13:01.000 He's very competitive.

01:13:03.000 He's very good technically.

01:13:04.000 He's hungry.

01:13:05.000 He takes no shortcuts.

01:13:07.000 He was 21 years old and wasn't taking any shortcuts. 0.99

01:13:10.000 I didn't learn all this shit until I was 30. And he's already doing it now. 0.99

01:13:13.000 And he's a world-class wrestler.

01:13:16.000 Great boxer.

01:13:17.000 He's working with Freddie Roach a lot.

01:13:19.000 He's good, man.

01:13:20.000 He's really good.

01:13:21.000 Yeah, and I think there's an actual real gift in losing his first fight.

01:13:27.000 Yeah.

01:13:28.000 I think there's a gift in that.

01:13:29.000 Because he had so much hype behind him, and he got cracked and submitted quick.

01:13:34.000 He probably got finished the worst you could possibly get.

01:13:37.000 Worst, yeah.

01:13:38.000 Other than a head kick.

01:13:42.000 Not only did you get knocked out, but you got submitted as well.

01:13:44.000 And you did it in front of Madison Square Garden on the main card for your first fight ever.

01:13:50.000 So you experienced the lowest lows for his first fight.

01:13:53.000 So now it's like, there's no going lower.

01:13:56.000 Everything's skyrocketing now.

01:13:57.000 And everybody was so hyped up about him.

01:14:00.000 There was so much hype about him.

01:14:01.000 Which is deserved, but it just shows you that everybody can get caught.

01:14:05.000 Anybody can get finished.

01:14:06.000 That experience, I think, is so valuable for him.

01:14:09.000 I really do.

01:14:10.000 And that left hook that he landed in his last fight? 0.99

01:14:13.000 Holy shit! 0.99

01:14:14.000 Last two fights, huh? 1.00

01:14:15.000 Yeah, two fights. 0.94

01:14:17.000 Nasty. 1.00

01:14:18.000 He's murderous. 1.00

01:14:19.000 He'll find that body shot every time I spar him. 1.00

01:14:21.000 Jesus.

01:14:22.000 Like, obviously you gotta get ready for it and you can feel it, but he finds it every time.

01:14:25.000 Oof.

01:14:26.000 Yeah, you gotta be ready.

01:14:27.000 And then, like, you start worrying about the body shot and you're opening yourself up, you know, so.

01:14:31.000 Yeah.

01:14:32.000 Yeah.

01:14:33.000 He's good, man.

01:14:33.000 He's really good.

01:14:34.000 That's one thing I feel Mr. Coker of Bellator does pretty well is gives people the proper fights to help build them up, right?

01:14:40.000 I don't think Pico's first fight was a bad matchup.

01:14:43.000 He just got caught.

01:14:43.000 He got caught.

01:14:44.000 He got caught by a tough guy.

01:14:46.000 You know, I love Coker.

01:14:48.000 Yeah, me too.

01:14:49.000 I like what he's doing.

01:14:49.000 And, you know, I'm supposed to be somehow or another in competition with Bellator.

01:14:53.000 I say that's horseshit.

01:14:54.000 I mean, I'm the one who got Jimmy Smith hired. 0.98

01:14:56.000 I was trying to get him hired years ago.

01:14:58.000 And I love the fact that Big John's over there now and that Goldie's over there, too.

01:15:04.000 And Mauro, I love Mauro.

01:15:06.000 There's a lot of great fighters over there, man.

01:15:08.000 I mean, I love the fact that Rory McDonald's over there, that he's a champ.

01:15:11.000 I mean, if he's not the best welterweight in the world, it's him and Tyron.

01:15:16.000 You know, I really think that.

01:15:18.000 Tyron, I gotta practice that name.

01:15:19.000 Sorry, Tyron.

01:15:20.000 Just don't have an E on the end of it.

01:15:21.000 Yes, sir.

01:15:22.000 I'm on it.

01:15:23.000 But if it's not, I mean, he's most certainly one of the best.

01:15:25.000 Mousasi, one of the best 185ers in the world, if not the best. 1.00

01:15:28.000 I mean, they have, like, legit claim to world-class fighters now in at least two weight classes.

01:15:33.000 They got the banners, the fighter walkout.

01:15:36.000 It's like an old-school UFC. I like it.

01:15:37.000 I like it.

01:15:38.000 I like, you know, that the fighters are having a good time over there.

01:15:41.000 They're getting paid well.

01:15:42.000 I don't hear any complaints.

01:15:43.000 Yeah, I want it to grow, man.

01:15:44.000 I really want it to be right up there with the UFC. I would love it if it was a full rival like Pride was.

01:15:50.000 Ah!

01:15:50.000 Yes.

01:15:51.000 Man, I miss Pride.

01:15:51.000 I left Pride.

01:15:52.000 I didn't figure out a way to do that crossover fight. 0.94

01:15:54.000 You can stay in Bellator, build Bellator as far as UFC is, and then have this, like, oh yeah, we're fucking better.

01:15:59.000 Well, look, man, those are big fights.

01:16:00.000 Like Canelo and Triple G. Yes.

01:16:02.000 Look, if they had a Floyd Mayweather versus Conor McGregor MMA style, if there was literally a guy as big as one...

01:16:08.000 There were talks about that, right?

01:16:09.000 Well, there were talks about that for Floyd and Conor, but I don't think it was real. 0.98

01:16:12.000 What I mean is a guy who gets as big as Mayweather has gotten in the UFC, and a guy who gets as big as he got in MMA with Bellator, and then they have some giant ass fucking super fights. 0.93

01:16:23.000 There's enough for everybody. 0.89

01:16:24.000 I just think for the athletes it's better if there's choices, and it's good for you.

01:16:29.000 It's not just choices, it's more competitive, and when it's more competitive they try harder to do a good job for the athletes, make it attractive to the athletes.

01:16:37.000 Like if you're a football player, you can go to a bunch of different places to play.

01:16:42.000 But if you're a fighter, you got like two spots.

01:16:45.000 You got Bellator and you got the UFC. It's like there's two teams out there.

01:16:49.000 And I think that's unfortunate.

01:16:51.000 I think it'd be way better for fighters.

01:16:53.000 I don't think that boxing is a clean system and I think boxing definitely has its flaws in terms of like promotion and how fighters are treated.

01:17:01.000 Why this fight's happening with Triple G and Canelo when it should have already been over.

01:17:04.000 Like Triple G won that fight.

01:17:05.000 Yeah, but that could happen in the UFC. Bad judging happens all the time.

01:17:09.000 There are some fucking terrible judges out there. 1.00

01:17:12.000 We've experienced that. 1.00

01:17:13.000 Fuck, it's crazy, man. 1.00

01:17:15.000 It's crazy that no one's doing anything to fix it. 1.00

01:17:17.000 There's people that have passed bad calls that should just be removed.

01:17:21.000 So you don't understand professional high-level fighting.

01:17:24.000 There needs to be like a grading system.

01:17:25.000 If you see these judges and they've made like, look, this person's made like four bad choices, four bad decisions, you're out.

01:17:31.000 I think they should go through a training course and be tested on it.

01:17:35.000 Just like I test my students for their ranking in the system, right?

01:17:38.000 Be able to go through this information and get better and pass the test or not judge the fight.

01:17:42.000 Or let a fight go through and let some quality judges judge it and then test those results versus their results, right?

01:17:48.000 How do they judge it and compare those notes to see?

01:17:50.000 Because we're dealing with people's careers and their livelihood and lots on the line with these people aren't making the correct decisions from their lack of education that they could definitely get better at.

01:17:59.000 So hopefully they start brewing.

01:18:00.000 Sorry.

01:18:00.000 Oh no, please go.

01:18:01.000 When they start pointing at some old fighters, maybe ex-fighters, retired fighters, as far as being the judges, but then maybe there's some holdback on that from, what would you think?

01:18:11.000 Biased.

01:18:12.000 That's totally possible, but I think you're better off with those fighters and their bias than someone who really doesn't understand the sport.

01:18:20.000 Because they'll be afraid of being called out, too, if you continue to see the decisions they're making.

01:18:25.000 Exactly.

01:18:26.000 And just don't have them judge someone who they have a close relationship with.

01:18:30.000 If, like, Frankie Edgar is fighting, you don't have Ricardo Almeida as a judge.

01:18:35.000 Oh, yeah, that's right, yeah, because he's a part of the commission, that's right.

01:18:37.000 Even though I think Ricardo is awesome.

01:18:39.000 Yeah, he is.

01:18:40.000 But you need people that understand martial arts, and there's a lot of the people that are judges that just have no background, which to me is crazy.

01:18:48.000 Agreed.

01:18:48.000 It just doesn't make any sense.

01:18:49.000 It's not like there's a shortage of martial arts practitioners out there.

01:18:53.000 There's millions of us.

01:18:56.000 We're out there.

01:18:57.000 You could find us, and you could get us to be judges.

01:18:59.000 I'll judge some fights.

01:19:00.000 Yeah, there you go, man.

01:19:01.000 I mean, and I think also, and we've said this before, I'll say it again, it should be more than three judges.

01:19:06.000 There's no reason to limit it to three. 0.55

01:19:08.000 All you need is two dummies, and they ruin a fighter's career. 1.00

01:19:11.000 You could get bad luck and have two dummies out of three.

01:19:15.000 That's not hard to do.

01:19:16.000 Two people really don't understand a fight.

01:19:19.000 You need at least five, and I think we'd be fine with ten.

01:19:22.000 I don't think there'd be anything wrong with having ten judges.

01:19:25.000 That way, if you really got a 5-5, that's a real draw.

01:19:27.000 And I think real draws are real, too.

01:19:30.000 There's fights where you go, Jesus, I don't know who won that fight.

01:19:34.000 I'd have to go over that fight with a fine-tooth comb.

01:19:37.000 And the difference, the distance between winning and losing is so close, I think you're better off arguing for a draw in some fights.

01:19:44.000 I don't think there's any shame in that.

01:19:46.000 Yeah.

01:19:46.000 I agree.

01:19:47.000 I mean, if it actually was that close, like, why not it be, you know?

01:19:50.000 Yeah, because there's some fights where the guy gets a decision or the girl gets a decision, and you're like, how?

01:19:55.000 They both won! 0.96

01:19:57.000 I mean, it's a fucking incredible fight. 0.99

01:19:58.000 One person goes home a loser, the other person goes home a winner, and it's almost like flipping a coin. 0.99

01:20:03.000 Overtime.

01:20:04.000 When I used to lose fights...

01:20:05.000 It's a draw, overtime.

01:20:07.000 Glory does that still. 1.00

01:20:08.000 I would just say I came in second place.

01:20:09.000 I never actually lost that.

01:20:11.000 I'm trying to ease it a little bit.

01:20:13.000 Glory does still the, one more round!

01:20:16.000 That's right, yeah.

01:20:16.000 That'd be awesome.

01:20:17.000 I'd still do that. 0.98

01:20:17.000 I'd be like, that'd be cool as shit. 0.98

01:20:19.000 That would be fucking wild. 0.99

01:20:20.000 Like, you're getting up there ready to get announced, like, I fucking won this one, you know? 1.00

01:20:24.000 Like, oh, fuck, we got another round. 0.99

01:20:26.000 Alright, let's do this. 1.00

01:20:26.000 We have a split decision. 1.00

01:20:29.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:20:31.000 We have a majority draw.

01:20:32.000 And you're like, oh no.

01:20:34.000 One more go.

01:20:34.000 The audience would go nuts, man.

01:20:36.000 Hell yeah.

01:20:36.000 If you had that only for championships.

01:20:38.000 Yeah.

01:20:39.000 Only for championships.

01:20:40.000 One more round.

01:20:41.000 Yeah.

01:20:42.000 That'd be cool, man.

01:20:43.000 People would start pounding on the ground.

01:20:44.000 Yeah, nice.

01:20:45.000 Yeah.

01:20:45.000 It should be like a 10-minute round.

01:20:47.000 It should be a 10-minute round, too.

01:20:48.000 Oh.

01:20:48.000 Pride style.

01:20:49.000 Yeah.

01:20:50.000 Pride style 10 minute round was awesome for grapplers.

01:20:52.000 And the gloves too?

01:20:53.000 Yeah.

01:20:54.000 Pride gloves are excellent, right?

01:20:55.000 Yeah.

01:20:55.000 You think that's a big factor, right?

01:20:57.000 The curve of the gloves?

01:20:58.000 Yeah.

01:20:58.000 And my boxing coach, Trevor Whitman, is working on some kind of gloves that are eliminating the eye poke situation.

01:21:03.000 I'm not quite sure exactly what he's thinking, but if there's anybody to do that job, it's him.

01:21:08.000 I love that dude.

01:21:09.000 He is why I'm as technical as I am, is from Trevor Whitman.

01:21:13.000 He's very detailed.

01:21:14.000 One of the things that a lot of people were almost like wondering or down on him or trying to look for something to criticize was when Justin Gaethje knocked out James Vick, cracks him, drops him, smashes him, stops him.

01:21:28.000 Everyone is going crazy and look at Trevor.

01:21:30.000 Trevor just sitting there like this.

01:21:31.000 He knows, yeah.

01:21:32.000 He didn't jump up and scream.

01:21:34.000 He just had his arms crossed.

01:21:36.000 See if you can find that.

01:21:38.000 He just expected it.

01:21:39.000 Not only did he expect it, he was quietly satisfied.

01:21:44.000 I was like, look at that dude.

01:21:45.000 He's like a tyrant after his title.

01:21:49.000 Sorta.

01:21:50.000 Woodley cried when he got his black belt.

01:21:51.000 That was cool.

01:21:52.000 That was crazy.

01:21:53.000 Then Thomas too.

01:21:54.000 A fellow fighter like that, that's awesome.

01:21:56.000 That's direct lineage.

01:21:58.000 That felt more to him.

01:22:00.000 That's so crazy.

01:22:01.000 That would feel more to him than defending his title.

01:22:05.000 He's been world champ.

01:22:06.000 He knows he's a world champ.

01:22:07.000 He's confident, you know?

01:22:08.000 Without a doubt, one of the best welterweights of all time.

01:22:10.000 For sure.

01:22:11.000 Without a doubt.

01:22:11.000 I feel like there's three guys in the running.

01:22:13.000 It's Matt Hughes, George St. Pierre, and him.

01:22:15.000 He's just so athletic, man.

01:22:17.000 So good.

01:22:17.000 It's crazy how athletic he is.

01:22:19.000 And with Dean in his corner, and with Duke Rufus, he's just coming into his own, man.

01:22:25.000 You know, I mean...

01:22:26.000 And people criticized him for the Damien Maia fight and the Wonderboy Thompson fight, but because those fights were boring, that's the way you have to fight those guys.

01:22:36.000 Period.

01:22:36.000 If you want to fight Wonderboy, you think you're going to go crazy and charge at him, good luck.

01:22:41.000 Good luck.

01:22:42.000 Yeah, you're going to eat some knuckles.

01:22:43.000 So going back to the training method, you know, and that's one thing.

01:22:46.000 I wonder how much time Duke is spending with him and Dean is spending with him.

01:22:50.000 And then taking that skill and testing it against all the other ATT guys.

01:22:56.000 So I'm just wondering how much classwork he's doing versus one-on-one work and then how much live work he's getting with the crew.

01:23:02.000 That's a good question.

01:23:03.000 I don't think they're doing too much work at ATT because ATT is where Colby is right now, too.

01:23:08.000 So where's he training at?

01:23:09.000 Well, he did a lot of it at Duke Rufus.

01:23:11.000 He spent a lot of time with Duke, but I don't know exactly where he trained his whole camp.

01:23:16.000 Pettis said he was at Duke's.

01:23:18.000 He was at Duke's, yeah. 0.98

01:23:19.000 Well, he looks fucking phenomenal. 0.84

01:23:21.000 Duke's figured out a way to get him to really conserve his energy and manage it properly, too. 0.71

01:23:27.000 Because we all know that when someone's that big and that much muscle...

01:23:31.000 It's so hard to maintain endurance, but he hurt Wonderboy in the fourth round of their fight, and hurt him bad.

01:23:38.000 He carries that knockout power deep, deep into the fight.

01:23:41.000 So he's figured it out. 0.71

01:23:43.000 He's figured out a way to manage his energy correctly, and if you see the countdown shows too, he's doing a bunch of crazy strength and conditioning shit too, which I kind of think everybody has to do now, right? 0.66

01:23:54.000 We're going to ESPN. It's a real fucking sport. 0.99

01:23:57.000 You can't take shortcuts, man. 0.99

01:23:58.000 This is a profession.

01:23:59.000 Like I told you, my training schedule is a full-time job.

01:24:01.000 It's hard for me to get anything else done when I'm in training camp.

01:24:04.000 Now, when you're not in training camp, like now, you're out of camp, how many days a week are you working out?

01:24:09.000 Lately, I've only been doing my strength conditioning with Sam, so when I'm back in town a couple times a week, I'm going to go back out to Colorado and I'll spend every day at Dwayne's doing kickboxing.

01:24:20.000 I'll probably start going to Gracie Baja.

01:24:22.000 This is all fun.

01:24:24.000 I'll go to normal class.

01:24:26.000 Right now at Sam's, it's not like I'm peeking for a fight.

01:24:29.000 So it's just maintaining my body and keeping certain things strong to prevent injury.

01:24:34.000 And then I'll go to Gracie Baja and I'll probably roll some Gi just to do it. 0.92

01:24:37.000 Just to kind of stay active.

01:24:40.000 When you roll Gi, do you grab the Gi or do you just try to do no Gi techniques?

01:24:44.000 I need to get better at learning how to grab the gi.

01:24:46.000 I still do no-gi techniques because that's what I always do.

01:24:50.000 I would never really use a gi.

01:24:54.000 I hardly ever use a gi.

01:24:55.000 It's not my favorite.

01:24:56.000 But I wear it.

01:24:56.000 But I don't use it.

01:24:57.000 I just do no-gi with the gi on.

01:24:59.000 They can grab me, but I just do no-gi stuff. 0.98

01:25:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:25:02.000 That's why you gotta go in there for fun.

01:25:04.000 You can't go in there expecting to be great because there's so much shit. 0.99

01:25:07.000 If you don't know it, they're grabbing your belt, pulling you in certain directions. 1.00

01:25:09.000 Oh, there's crazy shit that they do. 0.94

01:25:10.000 They pull your thing out, your lapels out. 1.00

01:25:13.000 Yeah, try to choke you with it.

01:25:15.000 Yeah, they'll choke. 0.99

01:25:16.000 They'll pull the back of your gi out and wrap it on your neck. 0.79

01:25:18.000 Like, all right, settle down.

01:25:20.000 But I mean, for the gi competition, as long as that's all legal, that's great.

01:25:24.000 But I mean, for someone learning martial arts, whether it's for self-defense or for me, what I found about doing gi is it really improved my no-gi submission defense because it was so easy to control me with the gi. 0.90

01:25:38.000 Because if someone's grabbing your collar and grabbing your sleeve...

01:25:40.000 They hold you down.

01:25:43.000 You have to get out of things technically.

01:25:45.000 If you get locked up in an armbar, you can't just explode out of things.

01:25:48.000 You have to figure out a way to slowly, incrementally release yourself the right way and defend everything the right way.

01:25:55.000 Because if you get too deep with all that friction, with that heavy canvas gi, they can lock you up.

01:26:02.000 You have to be technical in your defense.

01:26:04.000 I still don't really care too much for the gi.

01:26:05.000 It makes you more meticulous about your submissions.

01:26:08.000 It does make you hold...

01:26:10.000 Especially defensive.

01:26:11.000 I mean, if you're gonna compete in jiu-jitsu, then wear a gi, but if it's for self-defense, then I would actually train with no gi. 1.00

01:26:17.000 I say that, but if you're in New York and you're wearing a leather coat, in the winter, dude, imagine what Ronda Rousey could do to someone who had a winter coat on, talk shit to her with a jean jacket on, bitch, you're flying on your head. 1.00

01:26:29.000 Hell yeah, hell yeah you are. 1.00

01:26:30.000 Let's see, yeah, rolling with the typical clothes though, right?

01:26:32.000 Because even that's going to be different than an actual geeky, but close enough.

01:26:35.000 But it's enough to grab.

01:26:37.000 I mean, you know, like if you grab, you could choke somebody out with a regular collared shirt.

01:26:41.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:42.000 You know, you grab a hold of like a regular dress shirt and you get a hand in the lapel.

01:26:46.000 That's a dead man.

01:26:47.000 Oh, yeah.

01:26:47.000 He doesn't even know it.

01:26:48.000 Just get a hold of that collar and pull that fucker in. 1.00

01:26:53.000 That'd be great. 1.00

01:26:54.000 Kind of like what you were saying, changing who I am because of where I'm at in my life and my family now.

01:27:00.000 I wish I could train more outside of fight camp.

01:27:02.000 I wish I had more time to get in the gym and train, but I'm going everywhere, getting pulled in every direction, creating businesses to try to set up my future.

01:27:09.000 I know you've got your seasoning business.

01:27:11.000 I've used your seasoning.

01:27:12.000 Yeah, Flavor Republic.

01:27:14.000 Did you come up with this on your own?

01:27:16.000 So yes, I started it because of my new diet with Sam Calavita.

01:27:19.000 I had to eat super clean.

01:27:20.000 I wanted low sugar and I wanted something that was low sodium or no sodium so that when I'm cutting weight I can still use it.

01:27:27.000 But we make our own sea salt, organic sea salt as well, so that we can add it to it when we want to.

01:27:32.000 Because you need sodium.

01:27:33.000 You need good sodium.

01:27:35.000 But when I'm wanting to flush the water, I don't use it.

01:27:38.000 Yeah, you sent me over a bunch of stuff.

01:27:40.000 It's great, man.

01:27:41.000 Oh, thank you.

01:27:41.000 I use a lot of it.

01:27:42.000 Yeah, seasoned meat with it all the time.

01:27:44.000 Yeah, I just used it last night.

01:27:45.000 I mean, I'm actually into the company and like it, you know?

01:27:50.000 That's cool.

01:27:51.000 Especially for the wild game and things like that.

01:27:53.000 It's cool, man.

01:27:53.000 It's really, really fun.

01:27:54.000 Do you have a pellet grill?

01:27:56.000 Do you cook with one of those?

01:27:57.000 I do.

01:27:57.000 I have a Traeger.

01:27:58.000 Those things are the shit. 1.00

01:27:59.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:28:00.000 They sent me one of those bad-ass ones.

01:28:02.000 Yeah, they sent me one too.

01:28:03.000 Timberline?

01:28:03.000 Yes.

01:28:04.000 Dude, you got the meat thermometer, everything with it.

01:28:06.000 It's sweet.

01:28:07.000 I love that thing.

01:28:07.000 I cook on that thing almost every night.

01:28:09.000 The taste is the best too.

01:28:10.000 Well, it's all wood.

01:28:11.000 It's natural wood for people who don't know what a pellet grill is.

01:28:13.000 And there's a bunch of companies that make real good ones.

01:28:15.000 We have Outback, we have a Yoder that's really good.

01:28:18.000 I had a Green Mountain Grill.

01:28:19.000 That's a really good company.

01:28:21.000 The Green Mountain Grills are very affordable too.

01:28:23.000 And they come also with a built-in thermometer just like the Traeger has.

01:28:26.000 Yeah.

01:28:27.000 What you do is you pour wood pellets, and these pellets are made, like if someone makes a table like this, the natural sawdust from an actual table, they just compress it, and the natural sugars in the sawdust force it to form into these little pellets, these little tubular pellets, and you can snap them with your fingers.

01:28:47.000 But they go through this worm drive onto a heating element, and it's just fire and wood.

01:28:53.000 That's all it is.

01:28:54.000 You're cooking your food with fire and wood. 0.96

01:28:56.000 I mean, it's all complicated and electronic and shit, and it's all sophisticated and engineered. 0.98

01:29:01.000 But at the end of the day, the result is fire and wood. 0.99

01:29:04.000 And the food tastes like fire and wood.

01:29:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:29:07.000 It's fucking great. 0.98

01:29:08.000 That's why they have different pellets for different tastes, and you can taste the difference, absolutely. 0.98

01:29:12.000 I love pellet grills, man.

01:29:13.000 I'm such a big fan.

01:29:14.000 It's such an easy way to cook, too.

01:29:16.000 And that Timberline just maintains its temperature perfectly.

01:29:20.000 You could start it with your phone.

01:29:21.000 Yes!

01:29:22.000 Oh, yes!

01:29:22.000 You can connect it to your phone, so if you want to heat it up before you get home, you can start heating it up.

01:29:26.000 Traeger has an app.

01:29:27.000 They have an app.

01:29:28.000 Like, I was going to cook lobster tails.

01:29:29.000 I'm like, hmm, how do I cook lobster tails on Traeger? 0.99

01:29:31.000 Go to the fucking app. 0.99

01:29:33.000 It tells you what to have, what ingredients, how to do it, all of it on your phone. 1.00

01:29:37.000 It's fucking incredible. 0.98

01:29:38.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:29:39.000 I'll have to get you one for the house.

01:29:40.000 I'll take it.

01:29:41.000 I have room.

01:29:41.000 Thank you, sir.

01:29:42.000 So you didn't get an elk tag this year?

01:29:45.000 Oh, man.

01:29:46.000 Well, I'm going with Chad Mendez for rifle.

01:29:50.000 Where are you guys going?

01:29:51.000 Colorado.

01:29:52.000 Oh, all right.

01:29:52.000 I don't know exactly the area we're going.

01:29:54.000 It's something set up through Fins and Feathers' company.

01:29:56.000 He has a guide service called Fins and Feathers.

01:29:58.000 Yeah, I know.

01:29:58.000 That's awesome.

01:29:58.000 Dude, he's living the life, man.

01:29:59.000 He is.

01:29:59.000 He loves it.

01:30:00.000 He even told after his last fight, he's like, I'm not fighting until next year.

01:30:03.000 It's hunting season, my business.

01:30:05.000 Hell yeah.

01:30:05.000 He loves it, man.

01:30:07.000 He's awesome.

01:30:07.000 He's a good dude.

01:30:08.000 It was nice to see him come back and come back with a beautiful knockout. 0.99

01:30:11.000 Yeah.

01:30:12.000 I mean, that's still one of my very close friends.

01:30:15.000 And so we're doing a hunt here in end of October for rifle.

01:30:20.000 But my love's archery.

01:30:21.000 So yeah, I didn't get an archery tag this year for elk.

01:30:24.000 Can you hunt with your bow during rifle season?

01:30:28.000 I think you can, yeah.

01:30:29.000 Yeah.

01:30:30.000 The thing about rifle season is though, you're dealing with, they're not running anymore.

01:30:34.000 Like right now, we had a video of being up in Colorado, like just 20 yards from two big elk fighting.

01:30:40.000 They didn't even know, like I was standing up, or Leaster was standing up, didn't even know they were there.

01:30:44.000 You know, just 20 yards away.

01:30:46.000 I mean, that's why you get to do archery during rut season, you know?

01:30:50.000 Yeah, dude, I live for it.

01:30:52.000 I love it so much.

01:30:53.000 To me, it's like, It makes me so happy that I have my meat for a year.

01:30:58.000 You know, you shoot an elk, basically I have meat for a year.

01:31:00.000 And for all my friends.

01:31:02.000 Now I've gotten all my friends, like Brian Callan and all these guys, addicted to elk, Tom Papa.

01:31:06.000 I give them pounds of it, man.

01:31:08.000 I'm just constantly giving them elk sausage and elk steaks.

01:31:12.000 It's like once you taste that natural, wild meat, you go, oh man.

01:31:16.000 And just learning how much healthier it is for you too, you know.

01:31:19.000 Do you feel different when you eat it?

01:31:21.000 That's all I've ever eaten.

01:31:22.000 I grew up that way.

01:31:23.000 So I grew up hunting because of my dad.

01:31:25.000 My dad's been an archery hunter.

01:31:26.000 Your dad's a wild man.

01:31:27.000 I met your dad.

01:31:27.000 Yeah.

01:31:28.000 You tell right away.

01:31:29.000 Oh, yeah.

01:31:29.000 I'm like, okay.

01:31:30.000 How are you doing, man?

01:31:31.000 That's where it all comes from.

01:31:32.000 Nice to meet you, Mr. Dillshaw.

01:31:33.000 Yeah, he's...

01:31:34.000 I mean, I remember that guy just...

01:31:35.000 I mean, he's always been the baddest I've ever known.

01:31:37.000 He's always just... 0.66

01:31:38.000 He's taking me on crazy hunts where we'll hike our ass off.

01:31:41.000 We'll hike 20 miles and work really hard, hunt public land.

01:31:45.000 It's never been the easy thing.

01:31:46.000 It's always been as hard as we can make it.

01:31:48.000 Nice.

01:31:49.000 It's made me really fall in love with hunting even more.

01:31:52.000 Those backcountry hunts, man, people are starting to catch on to what an adventure that is.

01:31:57.000 Yeah.

01:31:57.000 And, you know, these guys like my friend Aaron Schneider who runs Kefaro's, one of the best backpack companies in the world, they make hunting backpacks and wilderness backpacks.

01:32:06.000 And it's like, you used to be able to go eight miles down the trailhead and there would be nobody.

01:32:11.000 He goes, now you go there, there's three tents.

01:32:12.000 Yeah.

01:32:12.000 You know, it's because other guys are learning how to do this too.

01:32:15.000 And they're realizing this, especially high country mule deer, which is an insanely difficult animal to hunt because they're so switched on because every day they're running for mountain lions.

01:32:25.000 Right.

01:32:25.000 Every day, is that a mountain lion?

01:32:26.000 Is that a mountain lion?

01:32:27.000 What was that branch? 1.00

01:32:27.000 They're so fucking smart. 1.00

01:32:29.000 They're sketched out. 1.00

01:32:29.000 They're so sketched out. 1.00

01:32:31.000 When you get to a five-year-old deer, which is what everybody wants to shoot, what they want to shoot is a four, five, and older deer.

01:32:38.000 You're getting this giant deer.

01:32:40.000 They're probably 300 pounds.

01:32:42.000 They have enormous antlers.

01:32:44.000 I mean, mule deer have these crazy racks.

01:32:46.000 All knotted up crazy.

01:32:47.000 Yeah, all knotted up crazy.

01:32:48.000 And they've been hunted since day one.

01:32:51.000 Every day of their life.

01:32:52.000 They've been five years.

01:32:54.000 It's like a fighter who's been fighting at a championship level for five years. 0.99

01:32:57.000 You ain't getting away with no sloppy bullshit with him. 0.99

01:33:00.000 That's a good way to put it. 0.99

01:33:01.000 That's perfect.

01:33:02.000 You can't snap on branches and they don't notice you're there. 0.99

01:33:05.000 Dude, they fucking turn nocturnal as well. 0.96

01:33:07.000 I went out five days before opening day and saw two three-pointers and a big four-pointer right in the area I'm going to go hunt. 0.99

01:33:15.000 And then ten days later I go out because I missed opening day.

01:33:18.000 Too late.

01:33:19.000 I know.

01:33:20.000 Ten days to go out after, they're gone.

01:33:21.000 Yeah, they go nocturnal, they hide, and they just realize that people are after them.

01:33:25.000 They've been doing it so long that hunting season is literally factored into their internal clock.

01:33:31.000 Like their DNA. They just realize it.

01:33:33.000 They go, oh, well, there's the people.

01:33:34.000 I know what this is.

01:33:35.000 They go, I know what this is. 0.99

01:33:37.000 Time to get the fuck out of here. 0.99

01:33:38.000 I'll eat at 2.30 instead of the regular... 0.97

01:33:40.000 Yeah, they'll just, especially during full moons and things like that.

01:33:44.000 It's really interesting, man.

01:33:46.000 Once you experience these, I mean, even if you're not into hunting, I always advise people, just please, just go hiking deep into the backcountry.

01:33:54.000 Just take a six, seven mile hike deep into the backcountry and just, it'll put it in perspective for you.

01:34:00.000 Like, those two and a half days I spent in Colorado, I hiked probably 20 miles by myself with no one.

01:34:05.000 And I didn't get anything.

01:34:06.000 I didn't even see an animal.

01:34:07.000 I found one drop horn of an elk. 0.99

01:34:09.000 I didn't see shit, you know? 0.98

01:34:10.000 And I still loved it. 0.99

01:34:11.000 I still came.

01:34:12.000 I was like, I'm glad I did it, you know?

01:34:13.000 Yeah. 0.60

01:34:13.000 Hiked my ass off, was out there. 0.60

01:34:15.000 My cell phone didn't work.

01:34:16.000 It's just...

01:34:16.000 When you go out there, do you bring a spotting scope?

01:34:18.000 Yeah.

01:34:19.000 So you bring a spotting scope?

01:34:20.000 A packing, yeah.

01:34:20.000 Spotting scope, binos, the whole deal?

01:34:23.000 Rangefinder, yeah.

01:34:24.000 And are you looking at Google Earth in advance, or...

01:34:26.000 I'm looking at, what's the app I use?

01:34:29.000 Onyx Hunt?

01:34:29.000 Yes, it is Onyx Hunt.

01:34:31.000 So it kind of downloads the area where you're at.

01:34:34.000 Shows you where it's public, where it's private.

01:34:35.000 And you can even download the app to when you don't have service, you can still use it.

01:34:37.000 It knows where you're at.

01:34:38.000 And you know if you're on private property, if you're on public land, it maps everything out for you that way.

01:34:43.000 Yeah, that thing, that's an amazing app.

01:34:45.000 But just being able to see the territory and know where the basins are and the ridges are.

01:34:50.000 Water holes.

01:34:50.000 Yeah, and get a sense like, okay, what time of year is it?

01:34:53.000 I mean, it's not just going out to get food.

01:34:57.000 There's really like a science to mule deer hunting.

01:35:00.000 And what the weather's been like.

01:35:01.000 If it's been hot, they're going to be high country.

01:35:03.000 They're going to be really high if it's been hot.

01:35:05.000 You want it to be like overcast and cool so they'll come out more during the day.

01:35:08.000 Because they'll bed down.

01:35:10.000 When it's hot, they bed down all day long.

01:35:11.000 And that's why they come nocturnal as well.

01:35:13.000 It's cool enough for them to expend energy to go get food.

01:35:17.000 To where if you go in the middle of the day at 12 o'clock, you have to spot them with your binos laying down and hopefully sneak up on them and not let them see you or wait for them to get up and start feeding and then sneak up on them.

01:35:28.000 Now when you go out there, do you have the creeks mapped out or are you hauling in water?

01:35:34.000 How are you getting water?

01:35:36.000 I always take those pills with me to be able to purify the water.

01:35:41.000 Iodine tablets?

01:35:42.000 Yes, iodine tablets.

01:35:43.000 They say you're not supposed to drink too much of that, though.

01:35:45.000 I'm sure you're not, but I don't hunt 24-7.

01:35:48.000 Worst case scenario, at least I'm not going to go out there and get Girardia and get lost.

01:35:52.000 I'm at least going to be able to purify some water.

01:35:53.000 And I have a lighter.

01:35:55.000 I have a canteen, so I would melt.

01:35:59.000 To heat it up?

01:36:00.000 Yeah, to be able to heat it up.

01:36:01.000 But yeah, I know where the water holes are.

01:36:02.000 I always know that.

01:36:03.000 And I bring enough water for me to drink, and I pack it into camp, too.

01:36:07.000 Luckily, this spot in Colorado wasn't very far from where I had to park my truck, so I was able to drive in a bunch of water.

01:36:13.000 Oh, that's cool.

01:36:14.000 Yeah.

01:36:14.000 With my dad, though, we hiked back in the rubies like 20 miles and then hunt back there, hopefully not finding anybody.

01:36:21.000 And like you said, you still find people.

01:36:23.000 Yeah.

01:36:24.000 But yeah, we have to bring the iodine pills or we have a pump.

01:36:27.000 Pumps are great.

01:36:28.000 Obviously, we packed in pots and we boil it and drink.

01:36:31.000 Usually, we boil it back at camp.

01:36:33.000 But if you're out and about and you only have a canteen on it, you'll fill it up, throw an iodine pill in it and shake around.

01:36:38.000 And 10 minutes later, you got clean water.

01:36:40.000 Yeah, you don't want any of that beaver fever.

01:36:42.000 No, hell no.

01:36:43.000 Especially being 20 miles out. 0.56

01:36:46.000 Think how bad that would suck.

01:36:48.000 Yeah.

01:36:49.000 It's beautiful country though, man.

01:36:51.000 I mean, to be able to go out there into that back country of Colorado where there's no people, you just realize it doesn't even look real.

01:36:58.000 It looks like, you know, you find like a mountain lake up there.

01:37:00.000 Like, this isn't even real.

01:37:02.000 This can't be real.

01:37:03.000 This looks like a movie.

01:37:03.000 It's beautiful.

01:37:04.000 Yeah.

01:37:05.000 Pictures you take don't look like you just come off the internet.

01:37:07.000 Yeah.

01:37:08.000 Yeah.

01:37:09.000 That's out near you, man.

01:37:10.000 I don't ever hunt, though.

01:37:13.000 Do you eat it?

01:37:15.000 Yeah, I have.

01:37:16.000 I had some mistakes at his house for the last camp, actually.

01:37:20.000 We got this from the Kingston Coffee, Gary, Mark?

01:37:22.000 Also, yeah.

01:37:23.000 We had both.

01:37:24.000 What kind of diet do you follow?

01:37:26.000 Actually, when I'm out in California with him, Sam's family makes me the same meals.

01:37:30.000 Well, not the same.

01:37:31.000 I don't know if they're exactly the same meals.

01:37:32.000 Pretty much the same.

01:37:33.000 But I eat the same meals as him.

01:37:34.000 And I usually eat pretty clean, too.

01:37:36.000 When I did my hair analysis with Sam, all my levels and stuff came back pretty good.

01:37:40.000 I was pretty...

01:37:42.000 Pretty, uh, baseline or healthy for the most part.

01:37:44.000 Are you training or just training people?

01:37:46.000 Do you train yourself?

01:37:47.000 Yeah, I still train.

01:37:48.000 I stay sharp.

01:37:48.000 You know, I gotta lead by example and I love it.

01:37:50.000 So that's what I've done since I was eight.

01:37:52.000 You know, I started with the Kyokushin karate and just been on it since then.

01:37:55.000 Man, when he comes out to the training lab and throws the gear on and holds mitts, for me, Cub, Juan, like, he just did like three hours of holding mitts, you know? 0.99

01:38:02.000 Like, he's getting a workout doing that shit. 0.98

01:38:03.000 Just the impact and moving. 1.00

01:38:05.000 Oh yeah, of course.

01:38:06.000 Yeah.

01:38:06.000 I don't just stand there either.

01:38:07.000 I've got to give them the feel and the reactions and throwback.

01:38:10.000 And I get to play UFC a little bit without getting beat up.

01:38:12.000 So it's fun to still, again, live vicariously through these guys.

01:38:15.000 But I still definitely do train and, again, lead by example and stay sharp.

01:38:20.000 Have you ever thought about one day, I mean, you're in a weird situation where you could potentially go to 45 and you could potentially go to 25. I mean, you could be champ, champ, champ.

01:38:31.000 My coach, when I first started working out with Sam and I was fighting Cody the first time, he was like, I'm going to make you a three-division champ.

01:38:37.000 It's like, that's our goal.

01:38:38.000 I want you to be the first one ever to do it.

01:38:39.000 He's always reaching for everything.

01:38:42.000 The way I know I can do it, too, is because I can pack the weight on with him, too.

01:38:46.000 I've gotten up to 158 pretty solid before I went down to 35s the first time. 0.98

01:38:50.000 Max Holloway, who's the UFC 145-pound champion, is a fucking big guy. 0.99

01:38:56.000 He's so big. 0.99

01:38:57.000 Eventually, he's probably going to have to be a 55er. 0.73

01:38:59.000 Yeah, I don't know how he does it.

01:39:00.000 When they had to medically stop him from cutting weight to make 55, when he's a 45-pound champion, he started in at around 85 pounds.

01:39:09.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:39:10.000 How crazy is that?

01:39:11.000 Dude, Ortega's big too, man.

01:39:12.000 Big.

01:39:13.000 Dude, he's a big dude as well.

01:39:14.000 Yeah, these 45-pounders.

01:39:16.000 Look, I wish there was a way to stop all this nonsense.

01:39:20.000 I wish everybody did it the way you were doing it, where you were just a little bit overweight.

01:39:24.000 Have you ever been heavier before where you had a cut?

01:39:26.000 Never.

01:39:27.000 So this has always been your weight.

01:39:28.000 A good thing too is that I always train at the weight I'm going to be in the night of my fight.

01:39:33.000 So if I weigh in at 135, I'm going to be 150 when I walk in the cage.

01:39:38.000 So I train at 150. When I'm going to fight 25s, I'll probably walk in the cage weighing like 140 or low 40s.

01:39:45.000 I'm going to train at low 40s.

01:39:47.000 And that's why my camps are longer.

01:39:49.000 I get in shape before I start my camp because I want to know exactly what that feeling is of what the night's going to be of being in the cage.

01:39:56.000 I want to be in shape.

01:39:57.000 I want my weight to be where it's supposed to be.

01:39:59.000 And so it's like the same exact feeling for my whole camp.

01:40:03.000 It's got to be satisfying for you to have all these changes, take all these chances, go through all this emotional shit with leaving Alpha Male, but the results prove themselves that you were making the right choices for your career.

01:40:15.000 Very satisfying.

01:40:16.000 I'm building my own everything.

01:40:20.000 It's all kind of finding a place and it's because I've surrounded myself with the right people.

01:40:24.000 I followed Dwayne because I believed in him.

01:40:26.000 I came back to Southern California because I believe in Sam, you know, and there's guys like Steve Martin like I was talking about before that made that possible, you know, and there's just like these for whatever reason this group of guys that I've just gotten around that's just Very synergistic and it works, you know, and so that's why I've been really focused on because I've been to a lot of gyms and That are money driven or ego driven and to make sure that's not the case.

01:40:49.000 So you might be an awesome fighter, but if you don't have the right mentality, you're not part of the training lab.

01:40:54.000 You might be the best fighter in the world, but if you're a cancer, we're not going to let you work out there.

01:40:59.000 And kind of really treating it like we're professional athletes.

01:41:02.000 I mean, I am treating it like we're professional athletes instead of before it was just a fighter.

01:41:06.000 Have you seen that really across the board? 0.99

01:41:08.000 There's much more of an attitude of a professional athlete versus just some badass guy who wants to fight and kick ass. 0.79

01:41:16.000 You're seeing people approach it much more scientifically now.

01:41:19.000 How much has that changed since you were on The Ultimate Fighter?

01:41:23.000 A lot.

01:41:24.000 A lot, a lot.

01:41:24.000 Like I said, when I first got an Ultimate Fighter, I was alpha male and we sparred four or five days a week.

01:41:30.000 Was that 2012?

01:41:32.000 11, I think.

01:41:33.000 Yeah, 2011. And then it aired, I think, 2012. So you think about that.

01:41:38.000 That's not that long ago.

01:41:39.000 We're talking about six, seven years.

01:41:41.000 So in seven years, the sport's radically changed.

01:41:44.000 Big time.

01:41:45.000 I mean, it's also because of how big and how mainstream the UFC is getting.

01:41:51.000 We're going to be on ESPN, we're on Fox, we went from Spike.

01:41:55.000 The more and more mainstream gets, the more legit it makes it.

01:41:58.000 And the more legit it is, the more science behind it, the more that...

01:42:01.000 Why wouldn't guys that are smarter than Sam Calvita go for football?

01:42:04.000 Because there's money and there's exposure behind it.

01:42:08.000 When it was fighting, it was so raw and just like whatever.

01:42:11.000 But now I feel like since it's so legitimized, those smart trainers and now the guys that have been fighting forever are now coaches.

01:42:19.000 It just makes it more legit and you have more science and ways to train behind it.

01:42:24.000 Yeah, no, it's really exciting.

01:42:26.000 But it's still growing, and I feel like we're on the cutting edge of everything.

01:42:29.000 We don't miss anything.

01:42:33.000 This is by far, out of any place I've ever trained, the most scientific and smart way to train.

01:42:39.000 That's so exciting, man.

01:42:41.000 It really is.

01:42:41.000 TJ's got a bump in the martial art evolutionary chain as far as how many people were switching stances and having that fluid flow before TJ stepped in the cage.

01:42:50.000 Not that many.

01:42:50.000 Not that many at all.

01:42:52.000 He's definitely leading the pack.

01:42:52.000 Dom switched his legs back and forth.

01:42:55.000 No attacks.

01:42:56.000 Yeah, he didn't fight the same way righty as he did lefty the way you do.

01:43:01.000 You've seen it now in boxing too.

01:43:03.000 Terrence Crawford.

01:43:04.000 Terrence Crawford.

01:43:05.000 He'll come out orthodox because he's right-handed, but he's like, I'm going to do better against this guy Southpaw and stay Southpaw the rest of the fight because he sees that advantage and being able to do that.

01:43:14.000 I mean, boxers used to say, never switch your stance.

01:43:16.000 Your defense won't be as good.

01:43:18.000 Make it that good.

01:43:19.000 Marvin Hagler used to switch all the time.

01:43:21.000 You know, he's one of the greatest of all time.

01:43:23.000 And then, you know, there's orthodoxy softball, but then there's a whole world of things that you can do offensive and defensively during the change of the stance as well.

01:43:31.000 Yeah.

01:43:31.000 Yeah, so we'll keep those secrets under the cover.

01:43:33.000 Yeah, it's one thing to switch your stance to fight better that stance, but then what about the strikes while switching your stance, you know?

01:43:41.000 Or in those crazy motions where I'm coming this way, but you're over there.

01:43:44.000 It's almost like fighting two people at once.

01:43:46.000 We're going to create those angles and take advantage of them, and they have to do this slow turn to stay on their stance kind of thing, you know?

01:43:53.000 Yeah, no, there's fantastic advantage to it. 0.99

01:43:56.000 It's a fucking matrix, I'm telling you. 0.99

01:43:57.000 It's fun. 0.99

01:43:58.000 We're going to start mapping out the kill-a-shot MMA series and get a bunch of MMA flow drills going.

01:44:03.000 Hell yeah.

01:44:03.000 I'm really excited about the switch to ESPN, too.

01:44:06.000 I'm really excited about getting the UFC on ESPN, I think.

01:44:09.000 It's a big deal, man.

01:44:10.000 ESPN is such a huge venue for sports.

01:44:13.000 There's so many hardcore sports fans.

01:44:16.000 When you think of sports, it's ESPN. Sure.

01:44:18.000 And you think of sports bars that have fights on.

01:44:22.000 They're going to have ESPN on.

01:44:24.000 So many people, they just turn their TV on and they put on ESPN. And that's like all day long, real sports fans.

01:44:32.000 They're going to get a chance to see guys like you, you know, real high-level fighters.

01:44:36.000 And ESPN's also been putting on real world championship boxing events, which is very exciting.

01:44:42.000 If they're going to do that, and then they're going to start putting on real high-level championship UFC fights as well, people are going to get a chance to compare and contrast and see, like, wow.

01:44:50.000 I think that's going to open up a whole new world.

01:44:52.000 I think Fox was great. 0.98

01:44:55.000 But there's like, what is it, like 80 Fox Sports channels and no one knows which one the fuck it's on. 0.89

01:45:00.000 Yeah, there are a lot of Fox channels, right? 0.94

01:45:01.000 Yeah.

01:45:02.000 It's crazy.

01:45:02.000 Yeah.

01:45:03.000 I remember years ago, one of my Japan can win trips, we went to a restaurant and they were showing some fights on TV and we lost our shit. 0.98

01:45:10.000 We're like, holy shit, they're showing fights on TV. Japan's so cool. 0.98

01:45:13.000 Now it's out here all the time.

01:45:14.000 Yeah.

01:45:14.000 Thank you, Dana White, Fertitta Brothers, the UFC, for making it mainstream.

01:45:19.000 They, and you as well, Mr. Rogan, for bringing martial arts to being so popular it is now.

01:45:25.000 It's like you guys have helped the evolution of martial arts come to life, and it's fun.

01:45:30.000 It is fun, and people are getting a chance to see where it's at right now, which I don't think...

01:45:34.000 If someone hadn't seen a fight like your fight with Cody or your first fight with Hennon Burrell is a great example.

01:45:42.000 Your second fight was really like a blowout. 0.92

01:45:44.000 I felt like in the second fight, he knew you were going to fuck him up before the fight even started. 0.96

01:45:48.000 Got to evolve. 0.98

01:45:49.000 Yeah, he didn't evolve.

01:45:51.000 But if you see these high-level, world-class fights, I think if people just got to look at what's going on right now at the top levels, they'd get hooked.

01:46:00.000 You know, real quick.

01:46:01.000 Well, I mean, you do a great job of teaching people, you know.

01:46:06.000 The commentators as well as people involved in journalists of MMA need to teach the average fan what to look for.

01:46:14.000 Yes.

01:46:14.000 And I feel like you've done a great job.

01:46:15.000 You've helped our sport grow because of that, of not only hyping the fights up, but making people knowledgeable of MMA. Well, we need to teach the judges.

01:46:24.000 Yeah.

01:46:25.000 They need to come to our seminar.

01:46:27.000 I haven't done the best job.

01:46:29.000 They're out there still.

01:46:30.000 I just don't understand what commissions are waiting for.

01:46:32.000 I really don't.

01:46:33.000 I don't get what's the holdup. 0.99

01:46:35.000 Just these people are incompetent. 0.95

01:46:36.000 Fire them, get new people in. 0.97

01:46:38.000 It's not hard to do.

01:46:39.000 I don't believe it's hard to do.

01:46:40.000 I think a motivated person could fix the entire system inside of a year.

01:46:44.000 I don't feel like they're worried about their job if they might get a bad decision.

01:46:46.000 Like, if I ruin your career, if I steal millions of dollars out of your pocket...

01:46:50.000 Yeah, I wonder if they understand that aspect, you know, that they're doing people's career.

01:46:54.000 I don't think they care.

01:46:55.000 They're just doing their job and they think they're insulated from it.

01:46:58.000 Yeah, I don't have a job.

01:47:00.000 They have to be accountable because they have a name.

01:47:03.000 You know, their name gets, you know, you know, Adelaide Bird scored the fight, ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba. 1.00

01:47:07.000 You know, you hear that. 0.99

01:47:08.000 So they're accountable somewhat and then people hear certain names and they're like, oh, not this fucking guy. 0.99

01:47:13.000 Because you know that that guy's given some shitty-ass decisions in the past. 0.99

01:47:17.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

01:47:17.000 It's not enough. 0.98

01:47:19.000 And if you just left it off to...

01:47:21.000 If you ran it through a computer and looked at all the bad decisions and all the judges that called these bad decisions...

01:47:27.000 Rate them like an Uber driver?

01:47:28.000 Yeah, you just get rid of them.

01:47:30.000 Just anyone who gets a D or below, just get rid of them.

01:47:33.000 You really know.

01:47:34.000 Anyone who gets below an A. I mean, people are going to make some...

01:47:39.000 Questionable, subjective decisions.

01:47:41.000 Some people like a submission game.

01:47:43.000 Some people like a striking game.

01:47:44.000 Some people think a guy takes you down.

01:47:47.000 No matter what, he's on top, you win.

01:47:49.000 Well, I feel like, well, they've said it's going to not matter as much now, but if you get a takedown, you have no damage.

01:47:54.000 It's like a takedown doesn't even count.

01:47:56.000 Which I believe in, because it's really who's winning the fight, not the position we're in right then.

01:48:01.000 Even me being a wrestler, I can take people down and just win from being on top, but that's not how an MMA should be scored.

01:48:07.000 No, I agree.

01:48:07.000 And I think that if a guy does some damage standing up and then you take him down and hold him down for a full minute but nothing happens, he did more damage standing up.

01:48:15.000 And there's a lot of judges that think that if you take someone down and you're on top, you win.

01:48:19.000 And they can't think that way.

01:48:20.000 It's not wise.

01:48:22.000 Especially when guys are battling off submissions off their back or getting busted up with elbows from their back.

01:48:28.000 I mean...

01:48:30.000 Did you see Nico Price's fight where he won from his back?

01:48:35.000 Oh yeah, he trapped him with the foot and hammer-fished him?

01:48:37.000 That was sweet.

01:48:38.000 He hammer-fisted him from the bottom.

01:48:39.000 Knocked him out.

01:48:41.000 It was one of the craziest.

01:48:42.000 Who did he fight?

01:48:43.000 I don't remember who that was.

01:48:45.000 Yeah, I get excited so fast.

01:48:46.000 Off his back, won by hammer fist.

01:48:50.000 It's like we're realizing you're not really safe.

01:48:53.000 There's things that people can figure out what to do in weird different places.

01:48:57.000 Find a way to be successful.

01:48:58.000 Yeah.

01:48:59.000 I just, as much enthusiasm as you have about this sport, and of you and myself and a lot of other fans, I want the judges to have that kind of enthusiasm as well.

01:49:07.000 I want them to go into these fights knowing what they're looking at.

01:49:11.000 Here it is, right here.

01:49:12.000 Oh, like right before that.

01:49:15.000 Look, look at this.

01:49:17.000 From his back, hammer fists him unconscious. 1.00

01:49:20.000 Fucking crazy. 0.99

01:49:22.000 I've never seen that before in my life. 0.99

01:49:24.000 Me neither.

01:49:26.000 I don't know if you would see that in the curriculum or not, but it's an opportunity.

01:49:30.000 In that position, it's a good place to be.

01:49:33.000 When guys start seeing it happen, they're going to go for it more.

01:49:35.000 You're going to see fighters go for that.

01:49:38.000 Well, the Travis Brown, the elbow on...

01:49:41.000 From defending the takedown.

01:49:43.000 Josh Barnett, right?

01:49:44.000 Travis started KO'ing people.

01:49:46.000 He KO'd Josh Barnett.

01:49:47.000 He KO'd Gabriel Gonzaga.

01:49:50.000 Same way.

01:49:51.000 He flatlines people from that position. 1.00

01:49:53.000 With those long ass crazy ovos. 1.00

01:49:55.000 Do you take different alpha brain than I do? 1.00

01:49:56.000 What do you mean?

01:49:57.000 You're sharp.

01:49:58.000 I think you might have some stronger alpha man than I do.

01:50:00.000 This is his job.

01:50:01.000 His job is to know this stuff.

01:50:03.000 There is an Alpha Brain Turbo that we're working on.

01:50:06.000 Really?

01:50:06.000 Yeah.

01:50:06.000 Is it here now?

01:50:07.000 No, I have it at my house.

01:50:08.000 Was it just a stronger version? 1.00

01:50:11.000 Yeah, it's got some extra shit in it. 0.99

01:50:12.000 See, I was asking Aubrey about that a couple years ago. 1.00

01:50:14.000 Yeah.

01:50:15.000 Our original alpha brain was giving people headaches.

01:50:18.000 We had to adjust it along the way, some people.

01:50:21.000 Aubrey says the weaker chain among us.

01:50:23.000 I was just going to say that, yeah.

01:50:24.000 You were good to take alpha brain, you know what I mean?

01:50:27.000 Well, it's a dose-dependent thing.

01:50:28.000 And it's also, there's people that get headaches when they drink caffeine.

01:50:32.000 There's people that can't drink milk.

01:50:33.000 There's a lot of biological variability.

01:50:36.000 But what this is is a more potent version of AlphaBrain.

01:50:39.000 We're pushing the boundaries a little bit.

01:50:40.000 So we're going to run some tests on it.

01:50:42.000 So we've got some trials, and I've been taking it.

01:50:45.000 Nice.

01:50:46.000 Send me a couple.

01:50:46.000 I'll test it for you.

01:50:47.000 I'm a fan.

01:50:48.000 You're a fan?

01:50:48.000 Yeah.

01:50:48.000 Yeah, it works.

01:50:49.000 It's got some DMT in it, a little bit of AlphaBrain.

01:50:52.000 You know what I really like, too?

01:50:53.000 I've talked about this before, is Neuro One.

01:50:55.000 It's Bill Romanowski's company.

01:50:57.000 He's got a great nootropic supplement.

01:50:59.000 I like it, too.

01:51:00.000 It tastes good, too.

01:51:01.000 I drink the chocolate.

01:51:02.000 I feel like Bill Romanowski now, the way I walk around with all my supplements and stuff.

01:51:06.000 He's got like a tackle box of them.

01:51:07.000 I do, man.

01:51:08.000 Like when I travel now, it's like I have a whole suitcase full of supplements.

01:51:11.000 Do you really?

01:51:12.000 Yeah.

01:51:12.000 Like no matter where you go?

01:51:14.000 Yeah.

01:51:14.000 So even if you're on like a couple day road trip somewhere, you're bringing all your supplements with you.

01:51:18.000 Yeah, or I have those divider packs, you know, but I have to have like three of them.

01:51:21.000 Right. 0.99

01:51:21.000 You don't fuck around. 0.99

01:51:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:51:23.000 Even on my hunting trip. 1.00

01:51:24.000 Really?

01:51:25.000 Oh yeah, man.

01:51:25.000 Wow.

01:51:26.000 And you're on a trip, you eat clean?

01:51:28.000 Yeah, I do. 0.99

01:51:29.000 That's why I'm busting those mountain house fucking fettuccine Alfredo's. 0.99

01:51:33.000 Dude. 0.99

01:51:33.000 Drink all those freeze-dried farts. 0.99

01:51:34.000 The farts are so bad, though. 1.00

01:51:36.000 But once you've been so clean and you know how it feels, and then after your fight you eat like a fucking asshole for a week, it instantly is like, dude, I gotta stop this shit. 1.00

01:51:45.000 I feel depressed. 1.00

01:51:47.000 I feel horrible.

01:51:48.000 I gotta get back into eating clean.

01:51:49.000 How much time did you take off after the Cody fight?

01:51:52.000 The second one.

01:51:53.000 Food, nutrition-wise?

01:51:54.000 Probably a week, maybe.

01:51:56.000 But even then, it's just not the whole day. 0.99

01:51:58.000 It's just like, I'll have one bad meal, and I'm like, oh, fuck, I shouldn't have done that. 1.00

01:52:02.000 I'm going to feel that shit. 0.99

01:52:03.000 What is it about it, wanting a pizza because you know you shouldn't have it? 1.00

01:52:07.000 Looking at that pizza, going, fuck it, we're going in. 1.00

01:52:10.000 I never used to be a sweet tooth, but now it's sugar. 1.00

01:52:12.000 It's desserts.

01:52:13.000 I used to be more like, eat more pizza, steak, whatever it could be.

01:52:17.000 But now since I haven't been eating sugar, I want to drink a soda.

01:52:20.000 I want a donut.

01:52:21.000 A regular soda.

01:52:22.000 A regular soda, yeah.

01:52:23.000 When I drink a regular soda, the first thing I think, I can't believe people drink this.

01:52:27.000 Oh, I don't like regular soda as much. 1.00

01:52:29.000 People are drinking this shit all day long. 0.99

01:52:31.000 Because I don't drink it. 1.00

01:52:32.000 So when I drink it, my body's like, what the fuck are you doing, stupid? 1.00

01:52:36.000 Like I had a Mountain Dew after the fight. 1.00

01:52:38.000 That's right.

01:52:38.000 I feel like hung over the next day.

01:52:42.000 It's weird how your tolerance drops, too.

01:52:45.000 If you don't eat sugar anymore and then you take it in, the first thing that happens to me, like I'll have an ice cream sundae, I just have to sit down.

01:52:50.000 I'm like, ugh.

01:52:51.000 Dude, the sugar is the root of all evil, man.

01:52:54.000 Yeah, it is.

01:52:55.000 It's so bad.

01:52:56.000 Not good for the body. 0.87

01:52:57.000 Especially in high doses.

01:52:58.000 Yeah.

01:52:58.000 Like, you know, people that walk around with a two-liter Pepsi and just chug it.

01:53:02.000 Yeah.

01:53:04.000 Man. 0.99

01:53:05.000 I mean, how many fucking servings are in a two-liter Pepsi? 0.99

01:53:08.000 And some people drink that whole thing in a day. 0.99

01:53:10.000 Easy.

01:53:10.000 Like you see the truck drivers with the big gulpsers going on everywhere with it.

01:53:13.000 Just filling their arteries with bullshit. 1.00

01:53:16.000 Just black. 1.00

01:53:17.000 Black insides. 1.00

01:53:18.000 Sludge. 1.00

01:53:19.000 All that fat, gut fat, just the lower abdominal fat that just pushes into your balls. 1.00

01:53:25.000 Lift up your belt. 0.98

01:53:27.000 And they're just going to get another Pepsi.

01:53:30.000 Just so uncomfortable.

01:53:31.000 You know what?

01:53:32.000 The soda is that The Zevia Stotas, those ones taste good.

01:53:36.000 Those are really good.

01:53:38.000 Zevias are great.

01:53:38.000 Those are awesome.

01:53:39.000 I drink those all the time, guilt-free.

01:53:41.000 The difference between them and a Diet Coke in terms of flavor, I actually like them better. 0.98

01:53:47.000 When I drink Diet Coke, I'm like, ah, it's kind of fucking chemical. 0.97

01:53:50.000 Tastes like chemicals, yeah. 1.00

01:53:51.000 Whereas Zevia just tastes like a good flavor, but it doesn't make you feel like shit. 0.95

01:53:55.000 There's no glycemic index. 0.89

01:53:59.000 There's no change in your sugar levels.

01:54:01.000 It just tastes good.

01:54:02.000 It almost feels like there's no sugar in it when you drink them.

01:54:06.000 Yeah, I know. 1.00

01:54:06.000 Yeah, this stuff, stevia is an interesting thing because too much of it, it tastes like shit. 1.00

01:54:12.000 Yeah, it's got a weird aftertaste, right? 0.99

01:54:13.000 Yeah, it's so potent.

01:54:15.000 You just need like a touch.

01:54:16.000 But when you put it in your coffee, like, I'll put it in there like sugar.

01:54:19.000 But they're like, whoa, like, whoa.

01:54:21.000 Yep.

01:54:22.000 It's rough.

01:54:23.000 What other stuff does he have you eating that you weren't eating before?

01:54:27.000 Is there any concentration on different kinds of greens?

01:54:32.000 Dude, I juice like crazy now.

01:54:34.000 And you're juicing mostly green stuff?

01:54:36.000 A lot of it.

01:54:37.000 I mean, there's a...

01:54:39.000 Do you blend or you juice?

01:54:40.000 No, I juice.

01:54:41.000 I do a masticating juicer, a cold-pressed juicer.

01:54:45.000 Because if it's something fast, like a blender, it kills a lot of the nutrients.

01:54:48.000 Really?

01:54:49.000 And you absorb more of it.

01:54:50.000 So even if you were just to eat this giant table of raw food, you would absorb less of it than if you juiced it.

01:54:55.000 Really?

01:54:55.000 Why is that?

01:54:56.000 Because it goes right into your bloodstream?

01:54:57.000 Something about how your body breaks it down.

01:54:59.000 Yeah, so something about the cold-pressed juice is your body's absorbing it more.

01:55:02.000 So, I mean, that's like a have-to.

01:55:05.000 Even when I'm traveling, I don't have my juicer.

01:55:06.000 I end up buying it, which is good.

01:55:07.000 But I have to drink some sort of green juice every day.

01:55:11.000 Mm-hmm.

01:55:12.000 And are you taking it with any kind of fat?

01:55:15.000 Because what I heard about, especially with vegetable juice, that your body absorbs it better with fat, like with coconut oil or avocado oil or something like that.

01:55:22.000 Do you do that?

01:55:23.000 Yes, we have to do a certain kind of MCT oil.

01:55:27.000 I take tablespoons in the day to help absorb not only that, but then the ubiquinol goes with it to help me rebuild red blood cells.

01:55:35.000 What is ubiquinol?

01:55:37.000 It's also some sort of oil.

01:55:38.000 I take him in a pill, but some sort of like oil that helps with the transport chain of...

01:55:43.000 I couldn't even tell you.

01:55:45.000 I'd have to get Sam in here.

01:55:46.000 He'd probably try to hold back.

01:55:49.000 I want to get him in here.

01:55:49.000 Dude, he'd be very interesting, but I almost don't want you to because that's where all my secrets are.

01:55:56.000 The thing is about secrets, man, there's people that just wouldn't listen anyway.

01:56:00.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:56:01.000 There's so many people that would listen and they wouldn't really follow. 0.99

01:56:04.000 And it's a full-time fucking job though. 0.99

01:56:06.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:56:06.000 Like you can't be lazy and do Sam's shit. 1.00

01:56:09.000 I can't imagine how you could be. 0.99

01:56:11.000 It seems like you have to be on top of it all the time. 0.95

01:56:12.000 I don't have time in the day to do all the shit that he has me doing as well as training. 0.91

01:56:16.000 So do you take the MCT oil with the green juice? 0.98

01:56:19.000 You can, or just take it.

01:56:21.000 And for people who don't know what that is, medium-chain triglyceride oil is derived from coconut oil.

01:56:25.000 It's the more nutritious form of coconut oil.

01:56:29.000 So you can take it.

01:56:30.000 What was explained to me was that you're better off when you're taking something that's as nutrient-dense as juice, cold-pressed juice, that you really should take it with a fat, and then it'll help your body absorb the nutrients better.

01:56:41.000 I don't know.

01:56:42.000 Yeah, he never told us that.

01:56:44.000 Okay, maybe I'm wrong.

01:56:45.000 No, I don't know.

01:56:46.000 I mean, he doesn't know everything.

01:56:48.000 When I take kale shakes, I always add either coconut oil or...

01:56:52.000 Well, I usually add both, coconut oil and MCT oil to it.

01:56:56.000 I mean, I think that's not bad for you, so why not?

01:56:59.000 I don't know if it's better or not, but I know it's not bad for you.

01:57:02.000 Yeah, now, what is your ratio, like, fats to protein?

01:57:05.000 Do you know what that is, or does he map all that stuff out?

01:57:07.000 He maps all that out, and depending where I'm at and how my body's recovering.

01:57:12.000 But yeah, I'm high-fat, high-protein diet, you know, low to no-carb, obviously different kinds of carbs.

01:57:18.000 I have to have carbs, but just, like, I won't be ketogenic, but I'll get my body into ketosis certain times throughout my camp to make me insulin, like, sensitivity high, right?

01:57:29.000 Yeah.

01:57:30.000 So I'll eat simple carbs that break down faster.

01:57:32.000 You know, they've found that people, even on this carnivore diet, which a lot of people are doing now, they still reach ketosis.

01:57:38.000 They still reach ketosis because they're not taking in any grain.

01:57:40.000 They're not taking in any carbohydrates.

01:57:42.000 And even though your body converts protein through glucogenesis, it converts it into sugars, into glucose, it's doing it in a very efficient way and processing in a way that a lot of these people are in ketosis all the day.

01:57:56.000 Most of the time.

01:57:57.000 Just not the same like high levels.

01:57:59.000 Like a regular ketogenic diet, I think it's supposed to be 70% fat or something crazy or 60-something percent fat and then the rest protein.

01:58:08.000 Wow.

01:58:09.000 Did you tell Jordan Peterson that?

01:58:10.000 Isn't he eating all meat?

01:58:11.000 Yeah, he's eating all meat.

01:58:13.000 I think, and I had his daughter on recently as well, and it's very controversial, particularly for his daughter because his daughter is giving paid nutritional consultation, but she doesn't really have a background in nutrition, but she's just showing people what really has worked for her and her experience and her background.

01:58:30.000 Her and her father, Jordan, I think he has a serious autoimmune issue.

01:58:34.000 Like serious.

01:58:35.000 And I think it's very possible that there are some people amongst us that are allergic to almost everything.

01:58:41.000 They have allergic reactions to all kinds of different foods.

01:58:44.000 I think it's really, really rare.

01:58:46.000 I think for most people like you or I, you're really better off eating rich, dark, green, leafy vegetables and nuts and fish.

01:58:55.000 And chicken, and wild game, and I think if you get some wild turkey or some wild pheasants, you should eat really good, lean, healthy, real food.

01:59:07.000 I think most people can eat apples and oranges and watermelon, and there's no problem. 0.96

01:59:12.000 But I think there are a few people amongst us, and I think Jordan's one of them, where his body just fucking rejects things. 0.85

01:59:19.000 I think his body has terrible reactions to all these different things.

01:59:23.000 And going on an all-meat diet has cured his depression, got him off on antidepressants for the first time in more than two decades.

01:59:30.000 Oh, wow.

01:59:30.000 It reduced his weight back to the weight it was when he was 25 years old.

01:59:34.000 I just don't think it's a viable or intelligent diet for everyone.

01:59:38.000 For the masses, yeah.

01:59:39.000 Yeah, I just think it's a good diet for people that are very extreme in their nutrition requirements because they have some serious autoimmune issues.

01:59:48.000 If you have autoimmune issues, you should definitely go towards keto.

01:59:51.000 Yeah.

01:59:51.000 You know, Sam's gotten rid of my psoriasis.

01:59:54.000 I didn't even know he could get rid of it, but got rid of my psoriasis with my diet.

01:59:57.000 I mean, they say it could be from the stem cells too, but I believe it's from...

02:00:01.000 I mean, I did so much stuff, but the diet, you know?

02:00:04.000 Well, I know several people that have got rid of their psoriasis through that.

02:00:08.000 I think Jordan is actually one of them as well.

02:00:10.000 He had psoriasis, and he also had some serious gum disease that he was having for his whole life, gone, as soon as he got on his carnivore diet.

02:00:19.000 And it's just, I mean, he's just eating beef.

02:00:21.000 That's it.

02:00:22.000 I mean, literally, he drinks water and eats beef.

02:00:26.000 That is it.

02:00:27.000 I feel like that's gotta be bad for your, like...

02:00:29.000 You would think so.

02:00:29.000 That's not how Brock Lesnar got hurt, right?

02:00:31.000 Brock got diverticulitis.

02:00:34.000 Anthony Bourdain told me that sometimes people get diverticulitis from all sorts of reasons.

02:00:38.000 From, like, eating...

02:00:39.000 You could, like, have a seed. 0.98

02:00:41.000 Like a fucking, some seed from some plant that you ate gets stuck somewhere in your lining and gets infected and you can get diverticulitis from that. 0.99

02:00:49.000 He said diverticulitis can come from a lot of different things. 0.99

02:00:51.000 I think Brock probably wasn't even chewing. 1.00

02:00:54.000 I think he was probably swallowing animals whole, out in the wild, grabbing fucking gophers and shit and just chopping them down. 1.00

02:01:04.000 And screaming naked on the top of a hill. 1.00

02:01:07.000 Hell yeah. 1.00

02:01:07.000 That's sick fuck. 1.00

02:01:09.000 I'm really bummed out that the WWE ever had him. 1.00

02:01:13.000 I really feel like if Brock Lesnar had just gone from amateur wrestling.

02:01:17.000 Dude, he was a beast when he called wrestling.

02:01:19.000 He's a beast.

02:01:20.000 And if he just completely dedicated himself to mixed martial arts from the jump.

02:01:24.000 I mean, he's already...

02:01:25.000 Look, he knocked out Randy Couture.

02:01:27.000 He battered Frank Mir.

02:01:29.000 I mean, he submitted Shane Carwin.

02:01:31.000 He already has an incredible resume for a guy that was a WWE star.

02:01:36.000 A multi-millionaire star before he ever fought his first MMA fight.

02:01:41.000 Just such a savage.

02:01:43.000 It was just beating inside of his heart so bad that he wanted to do it.

02:01:46.000 But came in and did it.

02:01:47.000 Really did it.

02:01:48.000 Lost to Kane. 1.00

02:01:49.000 Lost to fucking Overeem. 1.00

02:01:51.000 I mean, beat Mark Hunt. 0.99

02:01:53.000 Even though Mark Hunt says he was cheating.

02:01:55.000 Seems it might have been correct.

02:01:56.000 Yeah.

02:01:58.000 You know, Mark Hunt went on a rant today about Brock Lesnar.

02:02:02.000 Oh, really? 1.00

02:02:02.000 Called him a cheating piece of shit. 1.00

02:02:04.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:02:04.000 He's mad that he's coming back to the UFC. He's got like a legit claim. 1.00

02:02:09.000 Yeah.

02:02:09.000 For sure he does.

02:02:10.000 I mean, Brock's only fought the top of the top.

02:02:13.000 He's never fought like a warm-up fight.

02:02:14.000 He's never came in and had a warm-up fight, you know?

02:02:16.000 I don't watch WWE, but they say he's shrinking.

02:02:19.000 Oh?

02:02:19.000 Yeah.

02:02:20.000 So he's getting...

02:02:20.000 USADA is about to come in, so...

02:02:22.000 He's already in a testing pool.

02:02:24.000 They're going to be knocking on your door.

02:02:25.000 Oh, he already is.

02:02:25.000 That's why he's getting smaller.

02:02:26.000 They're knocking on your door at 6 o'clock in the morning.

02:02:29.000 That was the problem when he fought Hunt, right?

02:02:31.000 There was some stipulation where he wasn't going to be tested or something?

02:02:35.000 Yeah, there was some weird loophole.

02:02:36.000 Well, so he retired, and when you come back, you're supposed to go through like a four-month testing before you're even allowed to accept a fight.

02:02:43.000 And they waived that four-month of testing, and they started, like, so he was getting tested once he came back, but he didn't have to have that four-month of testing without having a fight.

02:02:52.000 Hmm.

02:02:53.000 That's from what I heard.

02:02:55.000 USADA. Yep, yep.

02:02:56.000 Boy, USADA's changed the game, kids.

02:02:58.000 Mm-hmm.

02:02:59.000 Changed the game.

02:03:00.000 Hell yeah.

02:03:00.000 Mm-hmm.

02:03:01.000 Indeed.

02:03:01.000 And I look better than I did back then.

02:03:03.000 I'm Jack City right now.

02:03:06.000 I'm feeling better.

02:03:07.000 I'm looking better.

02:03:09.000 It's awesome, man.

02:03:10.000 The professionalism that's going around our spots just made me continue.

02:03:16.000 I mean, I've always been hungry, but the science behind it and me being able to go three different weight classes and being real and just me being the baddest man on the planet has got me ready to go.

02:03:27.000 Yeah.

02:03:28.000 That's the only photos they have before and after.

02:03:30.000 Trying to find a better one.

02:03:31.000 Try that, pull that one up again.

02:03:32.000 I didn't see much difference there.

02:03:33.000 You missed the line.

02:03:34.000 Pull that up, Jamie.

02:03:35.000 Anybody who stands or sits the way Brock is sitting on the one on the right, the way his arms are spread wide.

02:03:42.000 No matter what, he's going to be big. 0.97

02:03:43.000 Yeah, he's still going to be 265 fucking pounds. 0.99

02:03:47.000 Jesus. 0.99

02:03:47.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:03:48.000 Okay, well there you kind of get it.

02:03:51.000 Yeah.

02:03:52.000 Yeah, he's losing some size, definitely.

02:03:55.000 But he's gonna keep a lot.

02:03:57.000 He's definitely gonna lose a lot. 0.72

02:03:59.000 The thing that's gonna fuck with his head, if anything does, is when you are on steroids for a long time, or anything that jacks up your endocrine system the way we're assuming he did, when it's over... 0.73

02:04:17.000 Let's assume he's already gotten caught. 0.97

02:04:19.000 I'm trying to talk like a lawyer.

02:04:20.000 Sorry.

02:04:21.000 You're assuming he did.

02:04:22.000 His endocrine system's got to be struggling.

02:04:24.000 And he's 40 years old now.

02:04:26.000 He's only 40?

02:04:27.000 Yeah.

02:04:28.000 He's going to be producing nothing but estrogen.

02:04:29.000 He might not even be 40. He might be 39. How old is Brock Lesnar?

02:04:33.000 But he's 39 in Viking years.

02:04:36.000 They age different.

02:04:37.000 41. 41. Close enough.

02:04:40.000 He's got to get in now where he can.

02:04:42.000 Yeah.

02:04:43.000 Heck yeah.

02:04:43.000 So what do you think you did that elevated your testosterone?

02:04:47.000 I think my recovery.

02:04:50.000 So not redlining my body all the freaking time.

02:04:53.000 I trained too hard.

02:04:55.000 I always went too hard.

02:04:56.000 I always wanted to do more.

02:04:57.000 I'm an older school wrestler.

02:04:58.000 More is better.

02:04:59.000 More is better.

02:04:59.000 That's not better.

02:05:01.000 So my recovery big time, listening to my body.

02:05:03.000 So your heart rate variability when you're sleeping, it'll tell you when you wake up how recovered you are and how hard you should push it that day.

02:05:10.000 So being the CEO of TJ Dillashaw and deciding, even if it's on the schedule, I'm going to go hard the next day, but I wake up, I'm not recovered.

02:05:17.000 Call everyone like, hey man, I'm not coming in today.

02:05:19.000 I got to go walk around with the family.

02:05:21.000 I'm not training.

02:05:22.000 Taking it off.

02:05:23.000 So you know by how many heartbeats difference?

02:05:26.000 It's not the heartbeat, it's the variability.

02:05:29.000 So sometimes your heart shouldn't just beat every second.

02:05:32.000 It should be like 0.8, 1.4 seconds.

02:05:38.000 It'll tell you that your central nervous system is not worn out.

02:05:41.000 So when you're getting sick or you're overworked, your body will tell you from your heart rate that That it's about to happen.

02:05:48.000 If you don't listen to it and you just keep going, you go down this deep hole that you'll never come out of.

02:05:53.000 But if you catch it right away, no matter what, your body's always going to do peaks and valleys.

02:05:57.000 But you want your valley to be lower and your peaks to keep getting higher.

02:06:01.000 Valley low, keep getting higher.

02:06:03.000 The way to do that is through your recovery, which is going to help your testosterone production, your growth hormone production when you're sleeping.

02:06:08.000 As well as my supplementation, what aminos I'm taking and why and when I'm taking them.

02:06:13.000 You know, the arginines, the 21-blend aminos. 1.00

02:06:16.000 I'll take them all different times.

02:06:18.000 When do you take them?

02:06:20.000 Usually three times a day.

02:06:23.000 Sometimes I'll take certain things at night, certain things in the morning, depending on what it's supposed to do for me.

02:06:27.000 Like my...

02:06:29.000 My ornithine, my glycine, and my tryptophan I take a night before I go to bed because it helps my testosterone, my growth hormone boost.

02:06:37.000 Things I'll take during the day because it's better for my energy system, my ATB production.

02:06:43.000 Yeah.

02:06:44.000 So he's just got all this mapped out for you.

02:06:46.000 Yeah, man.

02:06:46.000 That's amazing.

02:06:47.000 Yeah.

02:06:48.000 He's...

02:06:49.000 How many people could he possibly do that for, though?

02:06:51.000 He would have to teach other coaches to do it.

02:06:53.000 He'd have to do a mentorship where coaches would come in and they would train underneath him and then hopefully stay with us.

02:07:00.000 That's the thing.

02:07:00.000 If you teach someone too much, they can go do whatever they want and they can have the science.

02:07:04.000 Eventually, it'll get out to where you're going to see the test.

02:07:07.000 You're going to see what he's doing and people are going to want to come and learn how to do it.

02:07:10.000 And for heart rate variability, do you sleep with a chest strap and a wrist watch that registers everything?

02:07:17.000 Yeah, you don't have to have the wrist watch on, but as long as it's close enough to register your heart strap.

02:07:20.000 What are you using?

02:07:21.000 Which one?

02:07:23.000 Suntone?

02:07:24.000 Or was it Suunto?

02:07:25.000 Sunto? 0.88

02:07:26.000 Sunto, yeah.

02:07:27.000 Oh, okay.

02:07:27.000 They make hunting watches as well.

02:07:29.000 Yeah, oh yeah.

02:07:29.000 They make awesome hunting watches.

02:07:31.000 Yeah, the best.

02:07:31.000 Yeah, like GPS trackers, everything.

02:07:33.000 I use one of those.

02:07:34.000 Yeah, those are great.

02:07:35.000 So what do you do?

02:07:37.000 Do you take the data from that and you put it on a PC? He's got an algorithm.

02:07:42.000 So my watch is connected to my phone.

02:07:46.000 And then Sam is logged in.

02:07:48.000 Your watch is physically connected to your phone or it's through an app?

02:07:51.000 Through Bluetooth.

02:07:52.000 Yeah, it's an app.

02:07:53.000 And so the app shows you?

02:07:55.000 Yeah, the app, I can put in my information and it sends it straight to Sam's computer.

02:07:59.000 So every morning he checks in the morning.

02:08:01.000 So he logs in and gets your data?

02:08:02.000 Mine.

02:08:02.000 He's got a list of people that he checks.

02:08:05.000 And depending on where they're at, like right now I'm not doing it, obviously.

02:08:07.000 I don't need to track my recovery.

02:08:09.000 But when I'm in camp, he's tracking my recovery and he'll let me in the note in the morning like look man You're 84% recovered.

02:08:15.000 This was pick it up or you're 20% you need to chill, you know, right?

02:08:19.000 You'll decide so my week to week you have an idea what it's gonna be but it always changes How many times do you think on these days where you looked at the results and said okay?

02:08:29.000 I'm taking the day off. 1.00

02:08:30.000 Would you have just said don't be a pussy and push through this shit and Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:08:33.000 I would have easily... 1.00

02:08:34.000 I mean, I don't feel that bad.

02:08:35.000 Right. 0.98

02:08:35.000 But then my next training practice, like, damn, I fucking feel good. 0.98

02:08:38.000 Right. 0.99

02:08:39.000 I'm primed and ready to go, you know?

02:08:40.000 And so...

02:08:41.000 Is it hard to do that?

02:08:43.000 Yes.

02:08:43.000 To take your foot off the gas?

02:08:45.000 Even in the past when I've redlined my body and didn't know the science, I've been having to pull back.

02:08:49.000 But now that I know it, it makes it easier for me to do it, but it's still very hard.

02:08:54.000 It's still very hard to not do more, not do more.

02:08:57.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:08:57.000 My dad's taught me, work your fucking ass off. 1.00

02:08:59.000 Right. 1.00

02:09:00.000 Work harder than the next guy, you know?

02:09:02.000 Work hard when you're working, but knowing it not work.

02:09:05.000 Yes.

02:09:06.000 I think that applies to life, too.

02:09:08.000 I really do.

02:09:08.000 I think you just burn it out all the time.

02:09:11.000 Just like I was saying, if your sole focus was fighting, I'd burn myself out.

02:09:14.000 I have to have these escapes.

02:09:17.000 I have to be able to do other things.

02:09:18.000 I have to enjoy family time.

02:09:19.000 I have to go golfing.

02:09:20.000 I have to go hunting.

02:09:21.000 I have to get on the lake.

02:09:23.000 And even during fight camp.

02:09:26.000 It used to be like fight camp was fight camp.

02:09:28.000 That's all I did, right?

02:09:30.000 But now going with Sam and having these days off, I get to spend more family time. 0.90

02:09:33.000 I get to actually do shit I like on certain days.

02:09:35.000 Like I have two days off a week and we spread them out at different times. 0.93

02:09:39.000 Sometimes I might have three, sometimes I might have more depending if I'm getting sick or if I'm overworked. 0.99

02:09:42.000 But I actually get to go do shit. 0.99

02:09:45.000 I get to go wakeboard, you know? 0.99

02:09:46.000 That's nice.

02:09:48.000 Now, is there anything else that he's got you doing that's weird?

02:09:52.000 Are you doing any e-stim?

02:09:55.000 Are you doing anything?

02:09:56.000 I mean, it's always changing.

02:09:58.000 We're getting really big into the extra recovery stuff, the cryos, the light therapy, the CVAC machines, the...

02:10:06.000 Oh, excuse me.

02:10:08.000 Hyperbaric chambers, when to do them, and how to test everything.

02:10:12.000 Everyone has always known they're good for you, but I don't feel like there's been the exact numbers behind it.

02:10:16.000 And now he's going to track it kind of thing.

02:10:17.000 So we're getting more into that realm of it.

02:10:20.000 I use an auto lab that helps with me getting my hypoxic state to do altitude training.

02:10:24.000 Um, to where I'm breathing in that for an hour a day.

02:10:27.000 Uh, and that's, you know, I'm, I'm going anywhere to like 40,000 feet, you know, but there's only like certain like blanks you could do it for.

02:10:34.000 And you have to take like, like for instance, like doing like six minutes on four minutes off or three minutes on three, like in, in tracking what my body's doing the next day.

02:10:42.000 Um, what else we're doing?

02:10:43.000 Obviously my diet, my supplementation we talked about.

02:10:46.000 I mean, just the crazy workout stuff he's got us doing too, you know.

02:10:51.000 Like I said, it's kind of like Rocky training, but it's a shit ton of core work.

02:10:55.000 And his warm-up is not a warm-up.

02:10:58.000 His warm-up is usually everyone else's workout.

02:11:00.000 He's pushing us to our lactate threshold to where, like, you want to throw up, you're done, and then we're doing muscular endurance, you know.

02:11:06.000 So we're not doing any kind of strengthening until I've pushed that limit.

02:11:09.000 So maybe I've hit...

02:11:10.000 Hard ground and pound, when you stand up and you have a muscle pump and you can't go, you don't have that anymore because your lactate threshold is higher now.

02:11:19.000 If my lactate threshold is higher, then I'm not going to be able to push myself to where I have that pump.

02:11:26.000 Get to that point so you know what it feels like.

02:11:28.000 Mentally, if I ever get to that point in a fight, I'm okay because I've been there.

02:11:31.000 As well as when you get there and you work out past it a smart way, then it's going to increase your lactate threshold.

02:11:38.000 It'll take you longer to get to that point.

02:11:40.000 Okay.

02:11:40.000 So when you're doing strength and conditioning work, you're exhausting yourself before you're doing strength work?

02:11:46.000 Not always, but yes. 0.99

02:11:48.000 Some workouts aren't as hard as others, but yeah, the ones that work, like what I said, the hardest I've ever worked out in my entire life was that kind of shit. 0.99

02:11:55.000 Wow. 0.85

02:11:56.000 Yeah, to where you think like, even especially when I first started doing it, be like, alright, nice, that was a good workout, good job.

02:12:00.000 Alright, when it's over, let's hit the garage, we're lifting, you know?

02:12:03.000 Or we're hitting the pool, we're swimming.

02:12:06.000 Oh no. 1.00

02:12:07.000 Damn. 1.00

02:12:08.000 He's rough, dude. 1.00

02:12:09.000 My girl just called me.

02:12:10.000 I need to go, Coach Sam.

02:12:15.000 Every time I jump in the street, I know it's stringing machine day and I always pull up and I see the stop sign right before I turn left to get to his house. 0.99

02:12:23.000 I'm like, fuck, I could just keep going. 0.96

02:12:26.000 I don't have to turn left. 1.00

02:12:27.000 I don't have to go do this shit. 1.00

02:12:30.000 If you're in the garage and you continue to come back, you're a sicko. 1.00

02:12:33.000 You like this shit. 1.00

02:12:34.000 Now, how do you organize that, strength and conditioning days, and what importance does strength and conditioning take over skill work? 1.00

02:12:43.000 How do you organize that?

02:12:45.000 That's something that still is always going to be developed, depending on person to person who needs more skill.

02:12:52.000 Obviously, you never have it completely, but some people need more skill training than others.

02:12:56.000 When I first started MMA, I probably shouldn't have done strength and conditioning for a year and a half.

02:13:00.000 I should have only done skill because I needed to catch up.

02:13:03.000 But I'm to the point now where each camp changes with technique, and I'm obviously going to continue to grow, and that's why my camps are so long.

02:13:09.000 I'll do more skill outside of camp time and more getting my body ready.

02:13:15.000 I don't know if I'm answering your question.

02:13:16.000 No, you are.

02:13:18.000 It always changes.

02:13:19.000 You don't want to burn yourself out that hard and then spar.

02:13:22.000 That's still something I feel like we're even learning with Sam still too.

02:13:26.000 He obviously is a wrestler and he knows training and he knows strength and conditioning and that's why we just know our heart rate and that's why every coach is...

02:13:35.000 At our team, every coach is going to talk to each other.

02:13:37.000 They're all on the same page.

02:13:39.000 We know, like they know what days are going to be off.

02:13:41.000 Like no one's going to show up to the gym today.

02:13:42.000 If they do, we're going to go light because we pushed it yesterday.

02:13:45.000 It's never going to be like the strength conditioning coach's job is to kill you. 0.98

02:13:48.000 Now you're going into wrestling, he's going to kill you too.

02:13:50.000 Like we're all on the same schedule so that we know that maybe Wednesdays are active recovery. 0.65

02:13:55.000 So if you're going to go into practice, you're just drilling, you're moving light, you're not going hard because you got killed the day before.

02:14:00.000 So when you're at your peakest, hardest days, your next day is either off or An active rest day.

02:14:06.000 Do yoga.

02:14:07.000 Go do some yoga.

02:14:08.000 Get your mind off it.

02:14:09.000 And does he have your weeks planned out in advance or is he doing it day to day?

02:14:14.000 Do you know what you're going to be doing?

02:14:18.000 I don't know, but he does.

02:14:20.000 He plans out everything in advance and obviously the whole camp.

02:14:24.000 My whole life.

02:14:25.000 For him, camp does it, dude.

02:14:26.000 He's like my life coach, man.

02:14:28.000 Even after this fight, he's like, alright, let's not change the diet.

02:14:30.000 I don't want just rice coming back.

02:14:32.000 I don't want to have to work from ground zero.

02:14:33.000 I want to stay this so we can keep building.

02:14:36.000 So he's like my life coach.

02:14:37.000 I feel like I'm cheating on him when I'm eating a cheeseburger with buns on it.

02:14:42.000 That's funny.

02:14:42.000 He's got the whole camp planned out, my whole just continuing to grow, and obviously it'll vary depending on my recovery.

02:14:49.000 Now, with this ESPN deal, I know they're planning on some pretty big events, right?

02:14:53.000 Have they talked to you about fighting on ESPN? Not yet, nuh-uh.

02:14:56.000 No, I mean, obviously, being a champion would be pay-per-view, though.

02:14:59.000 Yeah, right, that's where the...

02:15:01.000 Kizash is that?

02:15:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:15:03.000 That's what it comes down to.

02:15:05.000 You're betting on yourself.

02:15:07.000 When you fight live TV, you get a lot of viewers.

02:15:11.000 You build your name.

02:15:11.000 But when you have these pay-per-views, you're betting on that people want to watch you because you're you.

02:15:17.000 I've just continued to fight my fucking ass off and go ham. 0.99

02:15:20.000 That's going to be my style. 0.99

02:15:21.000 I'm always going to go pedal to the metal when I fight looking for knockouts because that's how I'm entertaining.

02:15:27.000 Like, yeah, sure, I'll maybe...

02:15:29.000 Talk confidence and talk trash. 1.00

02:15:30.000 I'm going to fuck you up. 1.00

02:15:31.000 But I'm not going to go out and be the Colby's. 1.00

02:15:35.000 I'm not going to go crazy.

02:15:36.000 It's my personality.

02:15:38.000 I know it's fun.

02:15:40.000 It's awesome.

02:15:40.000 We like those guys.

02:15:41.000 But I want to be able to look back on my career and show my kid, look, that's who I was. 0.98

02:15:44.000 I fucking stayed myself. 0.97

02:15:46.000 I stayed my true color. 1.00

02:15:46.000 I'm an open fucking book. 1.00

02:15:48.000 I tell whatever it is. 0.98

02:15:49.000 But I want it to be like the Chuck Liddell days. 0.97

02:15:52.000 You step out there and fucking knock someone out, you get love for it. 0.99

02:15:55.000 Like the real kind of gladiator shit. 1.00

02:15:57.000 Well, it's definitely building for you now. 0.99

02:15:59.000 I mean, there was a lot of negative energy that was coming your way when you left Alpha Male and when you were on the Ultimate Fighter, there was some negative shit that was coming your way.

02:16:08.000 But it seems like with every victory, all that stuff is going behind you. 0.53

02:16:12.000 And now it's really obvious you made the right choice.

02:16:15.000 And now knocking Cody out twice in a row...

02:16:17.000 Yeah.

02:16:18.000 I didn't want to do the Ultimate Fighter. 0.98

02:16:20.000 They asked me, I was like, I want my fucking title fight. 0.97

02:16:23.000 I've been needing it for a while. 0.99

02:16:24.000 I've been begging for it.

02:16:26.000 And then obviously they're going to give me Cody and be like, hey, we want you to coach the Ultimate Fighter first. 0.99

02:16:29.000 I was like, fuck, of course. 0.99

02:16:30.000 I've got to go coach against Alpha Male. 1.00

02:16:31.000 It's like the last thing I want to do. 1.00

02:16:33.000 I knew all this shit was going to be fucking crazy. 0.98

02:16:36.000 And so I didn't want to do it, but I wasn't going to say no because that's my shot at the title, you know? 0.99

02:16:41.000 And I'm fucking so glad I did it because I got to show my true colors. 1.00

02:16:45.000 I got to show how much I care about the sport, how much I got to be a martial artist, teach the way that me and Dwayne kind of do things, very professional, let them be fucking assholes and then come around and have it bite them in the ass. 1.00

02:16:56.000 It worked out perfect for me because we got to show what really is what. 1.00

02:17:02.000 Sorry.

02:17:02.000 No, go for it.

02:17:03.000 It was a good opportunity to showcase how to handle those situations.

02:17:07.000 You get to be your own judge. 0.93

02:17:09.000 The more evidence you have in front of you, you get to be your own judge of what actually happened rather than Uriah and Cody running their fucking mouth of me leaving, me being a traitor, me doing this, me taking PEDs compared to what's actually going down. 0.97

02:17:21.000 You know what I mean? 0.97

02:17:22.000 You get to be the judge yourself on who I am.

02:17:28.000 That's the way I should look at it.

02:17:29.000 The more you get to find out about me, the more you get to know me.

02:17:32.000 Did you and Cody talk after the fight at all?

02:17:34.000 Nuh-uh.

02:17:35.000 No.

02:17:35.000 I mean, I show respect to him.

02:17:37.000 I never had a problem with Cody when we were at Alpha Male ever.

02:17:39.000 I kind of feel bad for the guy because this wasn't any of his drama.

02:17:44.000 He was coming to the team when I was kind of on my way out.

02:17:46.000 He just started.

02:17:47.000 I was holding mitts for him.

02:17:48.000 He just got in the UFC because we didn't have a coach because Dwayne left, right?

02:17:51.000 So I'm running the kickboxing classes.

02:17:54.000 Dwayne left.

02:17:55.000 I'm the only one left there to coach practices, so I'm holding mitts for him and stuff like that.

02:17:59.000 And then I get the ultimatum and I leave.

02:18:01.000 And then he becomes champ and now it's like...

02:18:07.000 him was weight on his shoulders. 1.00

02:18:08.000 I mean, that fucking sucks. 1.00

02:18:09.000 I mean, I feel like that's a big flag to have to carry rather than just carry your own flag. 1.00

02:18:14.000 Yeah.

02:18:15.000 You know, carry what you care about. 1.00

02:18:16.000 Carry your own fucking flag. 1.00

02:18:17.000 Right. 1.00

02:18:18.000 Instead of like, damn, I got all my team that are on my back. 0.97

02:18:21.000 Like, that's a lot of pressure, you know? 0.98

02:18:23.000 Yeah.

02:18:24.000 I think for him, like, he really felt like that team and that family environment is what he needed.

02:18:30.000 He said alpha male saved his life.

02:18:32.000 It meant a lot to him.

02:18:33.000 Yeah, and he should have thought that martial arts saved your life.

02:18:36.000 You know what I mean?

02:18:38.000 Yeah, the team.

02:18:39.000 It's awesome having a team.

02:18:40.000 Even like we have a team now.

02:18:41.000 I'd say be individualized. 0.99

02:18:43.000 It's really good to have a team because you guys are going through the same shit together. 0.99

02:18:47.000 It's good to have friends that are doing the same shit. 0.99

02:18:49.000 I can't only have average Joe friends because they don't know what it is to be me. 1.00

02:18:54.000 They don't know what shit I have to do to be the world champion. 0.95

02:18:57.000 So it's good to have those guys around you. 0.99

02:19:00.000 But really, you've got to know that martial arts is what's going to steer you in the right direction. 0.99

02:19:03.000 If I wouldn't have had wrestling, if I wouldn't have went to college with wrestling, I would have fucking fucked shit up. 0.99

02:19:08.000 You know, I just had that personality. 0.99

02:19:10.000 Like, I'm really glad that wrestling kept me grounded.

02:19:12.000 And then getting into martial arts, and I'm a very addictive person.

02:19:15.000 I mean, who knows what I'd be addicted to if it wasn't martial arts.

02:19:18.000 I'm exactly the same way.

02:19:19.000 At least I found the right things to be addicted to.

02:19:22.000 I think that's important for so many kids. 0.99

02:19:24.000 I think there's so many young kids that are growing up and they have all this angst and their bodies are anxious and they're filled with fucking testosterone. 0.97

02:19:33.000 Yeah, the kids want to break things. 0.97

02:19:34.000 I think if you could focus that into wrestling.

02:19:37.000 Instead of giving them Ritalin, just let them wrestle. 0.96

02:19:40.000 Any kind of martial arts.

02:19:41.000 It's just so good for their self-esteem.

02:19:46.000 Relieving that excess energy allows them to see more clearly, think things through better.

02:19:52.000 It's just so good for them.

02:19:54.000 Unfortunately, you're seeing less and less of that with people today.

02:19:57.000 There's less and less martial arts in people's lives.

02:20:00.000 That's why I make a bunch of free videos and just lead by example.

02:20:03.000 You asked me if I still train.

02:20:05.000 Hell yeah, I do.

02:20:05.000 I love this.

02:20:07.000 And again, a bunch of free videos and seminars.

02:20:09.000 Yeah, you can find martial arts.

02:20:11.000 It's easier access of martial arts right now.

02:20:13.000 Like Dwayne's Online Academy, for instance.

02:20:16.000 You can get technique 24-7.

02:20:18.000 Go do it in your garage with your buddy. 0.99

02:20:19.000 Go hit a punching bag, right? 0.90

02:20:21.000 Learn jiu-jitsu online.

02:20:23.000 Even the physical fitness part of training.

02:20:26.000 I'm starting my own academy as well online to where I'm going to teach you not only the techniques behind it, but how I get stronger at doing them, how I get in better shape, like a physical fitness part of it as well.

02:20:36.000 When is that going to be available?

02:20:39.000 Probably less than a month, hopefully.

02:20:41.000 Beautiful.

02:20:41.000 Let me know.

02:20:42.000 I'll tweet that.

02:20:42.000 I'll let people know.

02:20:43.000 Hell yeah, man.

02:20:43.000 Beautiful.

02:20:44.000 You can get more information on it now just on TJDillashaw.com.

02:20:48.000 But yeah, I'm going to start an online kind of...

02:20:50.000 I'm actually...

02:20:52.000 Meeting Dwayne not only coached me in the technique of martial arts, but the way he's organized everything.

02:20:58.000 How he's learned from Boss how to organize, how to create a system.

02:21:01.000 I've kind of done the same thing.

02:21:04.000 Not only with just the technique, but the lifestyle.

02:21:07.000 I'm kind of running with that.

02:21:09.000 I'm running with that and I want to show people.

02:21:10.000 Because eventually I'm not going to hold back and have any secrets.

02:21:12.000 I'm going to tell everyone everything.

02:21:14.000 And I want to start a champ camp.

02:21:16.000 I want to do a very exclusive champ camp where only 10 people can come.

02:21:20.000 And you come and stay with me, live at my house in Colorado, go wakeboarding, but then we also learn the mental aspect of how I think to be a champion, how I eat, how the techniques take them to the gym.

02:21:31.000 That's a great point of people.

02:21:32.000 That's what we need to do is lead by example, right?

02:21:34.000 Help out, pay forward.

02:21:35.000 Because then I can really feel like I can let loose.

02:21:37.000 I can tell you everything.

02:21:39.000 I don't want to tell everyone everything because I'm giving away my secrets.

02:21:42.000 That's who I am.

02:21:42.000 That's why I'm the best in the world.

02:21:44.000 But I love to teach and I love to do it.

02:21:47.000 And I feel like by giving them small groups and giving them some intimate time, doing a real champ camp, is something I want to do as well.

02:21:53.000 And I want to start creating this.

02:21:54.000 And I want to create them in places where we can have some fun too because I think fighting, you've got to have fun in this thing.

02:21:58.000 Like you were talking to Donald Cerrone not too long ago and that guy has to have fun.

02:22:02.000 Yeah.

02:22:02.000 If he's too much into the professionals of him just fighting, then he's going to fall apart.

02:22:07.000 Yeah. 0.96

02:22:08.000 And so I want to teach you that I do that shit are my recovery serious like my nutrition serious like teach you how I read everything no secrets, you know Beautiful. 0.97

02:22:16.000 Yeah, but listen man the sport is exploding and one of the reasons why I was exploding is the guys at the very top like you that are constantly innovating and keeping an open mind and Constantly improving so you're a big part the whole grossest thing man. 0.94

02:22:27.000 It's awesome It's awesome to see sir.

02:22:29.000 So congratulations to you sir.

02:22:31.000 Congratulations You guys are awesome, man.

02:22:36.000 I'm a big fan of both of you. 0.98

02:22:37.000 Keep kicking ass! 0.99

02:22:38.000 And please tell people where your academy is in Colorado. 0.99

02:22:42.000 Westminster, 100th and Wadsworth.

02:22:44.000 And we have a super seminar coming up with Sensei Basru and Trevor Whitman and TJ Dillashaw October 27th.

02:22:49.000 And then we've got the Kellashaw MMA series coming out as well.

02:22:52.000 Your website is?

02:22:53.000 BangMuittai.com Hell yeah.

02:22:56.000 And TJ Dillashaw on Instagram, Twitter, everything.

02:22:58.000 It all is TJ Dillashaw.

02:23:00.000 No nicknames, no nothing.

02:23:01.000 Beautiful.

02:23:01.000 Heck yeah, man.

02:23:02.000 Thank you, gentlemen.

02:23:03.000 Thank you, Mr. Rogan.

The Joe Rogan Experience - September 13, 2010

JRE MMA Show #41 with TJ Dillashaw & Duane Ludwig

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