The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #5 with Stipe Miocic

00:00:00.000 Ohio guy.

00:00:00.000 They're everywhere.

00:00:02.000 You Ohio folks stick together.

00:00:04.000 No messing around.

00:00:05.000 What is it about Ohio?

00:00:07.000 We live?

00:00:08.000 What is it about Ohio?

00:00:09.000 All you Ohio guys are like, Ohio?

00:00:11.000 We're Cleveland?

00:00:11.000 Columbus?

00:00:12.000 You guys all stick together.

00:00:13.000 That's it, man.

00:00:14.000 That's how we do it, man.

00:00:15.000 Just good people.

00:00:16.000 Even when you won the title.

00:00:17.000 You're like, Cleveland, we got a champ!

00:00:19.000 Yeah.

00:00:20.000 OHIO. What is it about Ohio?

00:00:23.000 Why does everybody love it so much?

00:00:25.000 I don't know.

00:00:25.000 I just think it's the mentality of people.

00:00:28.000 The people are awesome.

00:00:30.000 I don't know.

00:00:31.000 It's just hard to explain.

00:00:32.000 I think you just got to live there.

00:00:34.000 There's people that have lived in other states and moved to Cleveland or Ohio and they're like, man, I get it.

00:00:40.000 I see why you guys are so in-depth with each other.

00:00:43.000 You guys are awesome.

00:00:44.000 You guys love each other.

00:00:45.000 Yeah, man.

00:00:46.000 It's like its own nation.

00:00:47.000 It is weird.

00:00:48.000 Columbus, in particular, is one of my favorite places to visit.

00:00:53.000 I get the weather sucks a lot.

00:00:55.000 I get it.

00:00:56.000 But the people are so damn nice.

00:00:58.000 Overall, it's a really good spot.

00:01:01.000 Yeah.

00:01:01.000 Actually, I love Columbus, too.

00:01:03.000 I've had a bunch of blurry nights there.

00:01:09.000 Down there I went to Brothers and all that good stuff.

00:01:11.000 I love Columbus too.

00:01:14.000 Especially when we go down to Arnold and stuff like that.

00:01:17.000 Just checking it out.

00:01:18.000 They have a couple MMA fights.

00:01:19.000 And local shows too.

00:01:21.000 We have a lot of our coaches go down there for local MMA shows.

00:01:25.000 Remember when they used to do the UFC with the Columbus?

00:01:27.000 With the Arnold?

00:01:28.000 Yeah.

00:01:28.000 That was a big event.

00:01:30.000 That was a big...

00:01:31.000 I wonder why that stopped.

00:01:32.000 That was always a lot of fun.

00:01:33.000 I remember the one time they had Strikeforce there.

00:01:35.000 That's when Ronda Rousey was like... 1.00

00:01:37.000 Pull the sucker up. 1.00

00:01:37.000 Sorry, I suck at this. 1.00

00:01:38.000 This is my first podcast.

00:01:39.000 Be gentle.

00:01:40.000 Is it?

00:01:40.000 Yeah.

00:01:41.000 Really?

00:01:41.000 Yeah.

00:01:41.000 How the fuck is a heavyweight champion of the world never been on a podcast before?

00:01:45.000 Well, I've been on a podcast over the phone, but not in studio. 0.98

00:01:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:50.000 But I think Strikeforce is when Rousey and Tate fought and that's when she dislocated her elbow.

00:01:57.000 Was that one of them?

00:01:58.000 I think that was one of them.

00:01:59.000 I think so.

00:02:02.000 Back in the day.

00:02:04.000 So what's it like walking around the UFC heavyweight champion in the world?

00:02:07.000 How's that feel?

00:02:08.000 Feels good.

00:02:11.000 It doesn't really matter my household.

00:02:13.000 I'm like fourth on the ladder.

00:02:14.000 It's my wife, then the two dogs, and then me.

00:02:15.000 I'm there just to pay bills.

00:02:17.000 It feels like that sometimes, right?

00:02:19.000 Yeah.

00:02:19.000 The money machine.

00:02:22.000 So, is everything good now?

00:02:24.000 You finally got a title fight.

00:02:26.000 You finally got a real challenger in Francis Ngano on January 20th.

00:02:31.000 How do you feel about this?

00:02:32.000 I think he's a great fighter.

00:02:33.000 Definitely.

00:02:34.000 He brings it.

00:02:35.000 It's hard.

00:02:37.000 But, unfortunately, nothing's going to change.

00:02:39.000 I'm walking out with the belt still wrapped on my waist.

00:02:42.000 You know, I'm excited for him.

00:02:44.000 He's getting a shot, but as long as I'm here, no one's going to be champ. 0.99

00:02:47.000 Damn. 0.99

00:02:47.000 You have to have that mentality. 0.99

00:02:50.000 What do you think about him that's unusual?

00:02:52.000 What about him, other than the size and the strength, what stands out?

00:02:57.000 I mean, it's power, I guess, you know, but I think everyone who's tired in the heavyweight division, I mean, 260-pound man, 250-pound man, I mean, you're not supposed to be hit by something like that.

00:03:08.000 You know, I fought JDS, I fought everyone else, and I fought Mark Hunt.

00:03:11.000 I mean, I got guys who, you know, do hard.

00:03:14.000 Yeah.

00:03:14.000 You know, and...

00:03:15.000 He's a little wild too, which is tough.

00:03:18.000 Sometimes you can't prepare for that because there's punches you don't see.

00:03:22.000 Like the punch he hit Alistair with that wild left hook, swings wide.

00:03:26.000 I think that was a little bit on both ends.

00:03:29.000 I think Overeem was just kind of being a little sloppy and then put his face right in the lane.

00:03:35.000 Yeah, Overeem's got a weird style now, right?

00:03:37.000 It's a totally different style over the last couple of years, you know?

00:03:41.000 But he does awkward stuff.

00:03:43.000 You know, like, when you fought him, how did you feel?

00:03:46.000 Well, when I fought him, he was, like, very traditional, moving around, running, but, like, kept, you know, keeping his distance.

00:03:53.000 I'm like, alright, cool, it's a fight, you know?

00:03:55.000 And then he tried that lunging, I don't know what kind of kick to my thigh, and I grabbed it in time and took him down.

00:04:03.000 I didn't watch the whole fight with Nagano, but what I saw was he was doing all these wild punches.

00:04:08.000 When he fought me, he was throwing straights.

00:04:12.000 I think with Ngannou it was almost like he felt like he could not get hit, which was correct, right?

00:04:17.000 So he just decided to be just completely wild and unpredictable.

00:04:21.000 I mean he threw that wild lunging left hand to start the fight off and then got the clinch immediately, but wasn't able to do anything with it.

00:04:27.000 Yeah, I'll find out on January 20th.

00:04:32.000 I think I'll be alright, but I'm the best coach in the world.

00:04:35.000 I'm pretty confident walking in there.

00:04:37.000 He's a big dude, throws hard, but that's every heavyweight.

00:04:40.000 It doesn't take much.

00:04:42.000 Well, the only time we've seen him on his back was, which fight was it that he got taken down?

00:04:47.000 Was Curtis Blades taking him down?

00:04:49.000 Yeah.

00:04:49.000 That was his first UFC fight, right?

00:04:51.000 Yeah.

00:04:52.000 That was an interesting fight, right?

00:04:53.000 You got a chance to see.

00:04:54.000 But it's hard to see when a guy's really young in MMA. It's hard to see a fight from three years ago, or whatever that was, and then look at him and say, well, that's the same guy today.

00:05:04.000 Because it's not, right?

00:05:05.000 Yeah.

00:05:05.000 Yeah, I mean, I've definitely changed him the past couple months.

00:05:09.000 Oh, for sure.

00:05:10.000 You know, I think he's definitely gotten better.

00:05:12.000 There's no question.

00:05:13.000 But, you know, we'll see what happens.

00:05:15.000 Listen, I'm going out there for broke.

00:05:16.000 I'm going out there to win.

00:05:17.000 You always do.

00:05:18.000 Yeah.

00:05:19.000 Now, this is January 20th, and right now, what was this, December 13th or something?

00:05:23.000 No, the second.

00:05:24.000 Yeah, it was December 2nd.

00:05:26.000 No, today's not the second.

00:05:27.000 Oh, today I'm talking about their fight.

00:05:28.000 Oh, no, today.

00:05:30.000 The 13th, yeah.

00:05:31.000 So, like, how much time did you have to prep for this?

00:05:34.000 Well, I've been prepping.

00:05:35.000 I've been working out.

00:05:35.000 I've been, you know, staying in shape.

00:05:37.000 So did you have a feeling that January was going to be the card?

00:05:40.000 Yeah.

00:05:40.000 So, like, when the UFC lets you know, how do they do that?

00:05:43.000 How does that work?

00:05:44.000 Usually contact my manager, like, hey, you know, that's what we're thinking.

00:05:48.000 You know, do you think you'll be ready?

00:05:50.000 I was a little beat up after the JDS fight with my shin and everything.

00:05:53.000 Not just my shin, but I had other things and just had to heal up.

00:05:56.000 It took me a while.

00:05:58.000 Everyone thinks I'm just trying to hold on to the belt. 1.00

00:06:00.000 Who the fuck says that? 1.00

00:06:01.000 All the time. 1.00

00:06:01.000 Fuck them. 1.00

00:06:02.000 Don't listen to that. 1.00

00:06:03.000 Don't even respond.

00:06:03.000 I don't respond.

00:06:04.000 I think it's funny.

00:06:05.000 I think it's great.

00:06:06.000 That's crazy.

00:06:07.000 You fought everybody.

00:06:08.000 Yeah, it is what it is.

00:06:09.000 What are you going to do?

00:06:11.000 I can't make everyone happy.

00:06:12.000 But yeah, I was beat up a little bit and just had a lot going on.

00:06:15.000 So now, here we are.

00:06:16.000 The JDS fight was interesting, right?

00:06:18.000 Because that shin was swelling up hardcore, man.

00:06:21.000 Yeah, I couldn't believe that.

00:06:22.000 I felt fine.

00:06:24.000 Also, I'm like, man, it doesn't feel right.

00:06:26.000 I could feel the rush of blood in my shin.

00:06:30.000 And I'm like, hmm.

00:06:31.000 They kicked me again.

00:06:32.000 I'm like, I checked it.

00:06:33.000 And I'm like, oh, that hurt.

00:06:35.000 I gotta end this.

00:06:36.000 And so I was like chasing them down and finding my opportunity and thank God I got it.

00:06:42.000 It's so interesting that after all these years in MMA, a new trend surfaces and that trend is the low lead kick.

00:06:50.000 The low leg kick to the shin and the calf area is devastating.

00:06:56.000 Benson Henderson, I think, was the first guy to really bring it to the UFC and really make it a big part of his arsenal.

00:07:02.000 But you're seeing it with so many guys now.

00:07:04.000 The low leg kick is just a giant technique. 0.99

00:07:07.000 It sucks. 1.00

00:07:08.000 It fucking sucks, right? 1.00

00:07:10.000 Well, you can't condition that part of your leg. 1.00

00:07:13.000 It's not the same.

00:07:13.000 I think some people are different.

00:07:15.000 Some people, it's going to be real bad, I think. 0.93

00:07:16.000 For me, it sucked. 0.98

00:07:18.000 It was terrible. 0.90

00:07:19.000 Going up the stairs after that fight was the hardest thing ever.

00:07:22.000 Yeah, it almost looked like your leg was broken.

00:07:24.000 It swole up so quick, I was wondering if the fibula was cracked or something like that.

00:07:29.000 Yeah, my doctor actually was super pumped about it because he was like, oh my god, look how deep this bone bruise is.

00:07:34.000 This is amazing.

00:07:35.000 He was so pumped, yeah.

00:07:37.000 He used to train with us, so he's a good dude, and he just loved it.

00:07:39.000 He showed my coach, and my coach was like, oh, that's awesome.

00:07:41.000 So what, did he put it on an MRI or something like that?

00:07:44.000 Yeah, he took an x-ray, I think it was an x-ray or something like that, and he saw the pictures, and he's like, man, this is a deep bone bruise.

00:07:48.000 This is as deep as you get.

00:07:50.000 It's pretty bad.

00:07:51.000 Yeah, it's amazing to me that, you know, you think of all the techniques in martial arts, that this technique becomes like a prominent technique in 2016, 2017. Yeah, you know, I'm still trying to work on my jab.

00:08:05.000 You know, that's what I'm working on right now in 2016. So over that, it takes off for a while.

00:08:08.000 No, but yeah, it's funny how, you know, mixed martial arts, there's one thing and then like, you know, when it started, you know, there was one guy who's a wrestler, one guy with jiu-jitsu, one guy.

00:08:16.000 Now it's...

00:08:16.000 You know trending and trending more and more and then you know you got guys who like you know sprawl and brawl or Yeah, it's just crazy watching how the sport evolves.

00:08:24.000 It's amazing actually well you you're an interesting case because you're a guy who does everything right you're not a One sports specialist like you didn't come in as a kickboxing champ like Overeem or like Mark Hunt You know you you came into the sport with everything you know you're you're one of the new guys We're essentially you know you're you do everything you know you're not you're not a specialist Yeah, I think so.

00:08:49.000 Yeah, I mean, I wrestled my whole life.

00:08:51.000 And then, you know, actually, it was my coach, actually, who made it better.

00:08:55.000 Because when I started training with mixed martial arts, he literally was like, I would take everyone down. 1.00

00:09:01.000 I'm like, oh, this is easy.

00:09:03.000 He's like, no, no, no, Migo. 1.00

00:09:05.000 He's like, every time you take someone down, I'm going to stand right back up.

00:09:08.000 So you got to learn how to fight.

00:09:09.000 I'm like, oh.

00:09:11.000 And I just got the crappy out of me for, you know, a while until I started, like, learning how to use my hands better.

00:09:15.000 And then, you know, I took a little time off just to go and go to boxing.

00:09:19.000 And, you know, here we are.

00:09:20.000 When did you start?

00:09:22.000 MMA? Yeah.

00:09:23.000 Oof.

00:09:25.000 Ten years ago.

00:09:26.000 Ten years.

00:09:26.000 Nine years ago.

00:09:27.000 That's not that long when you think about it.

00:09:29.000 Now you're the UFC heavyweight champ.

00:09:31.000 Yeah.

00:09:31.000 I took a year and a half off just for boxing.

00:09:33.000 Really?

00:09:34.000 Just to learn how to use your hands better.

00:09:36.000 Yeah.

00:09:37.000 It's probably a good move, right?

00:09:39.000 That was great.

00:09:39.000 Probably the best move I did.

00:09:41.000 Especially coming in with a wrestling background.

00:09:42.000 But you have an overall athletic background, too.

00:09:45.000 You played baseball.

00:09:46.000 You were a multi-sport guy.

00:09:49.000 Yeah, I tried.

00:09:50.000 I tried, but yeah, I definitely wrestle a lot.

00:09:54.000 The wrestling does help me out in MMA. Sure, of course.

00:09:57.000 I always use that.

00:09:58.000 I think baseball definitely helps me out, too, just because of the reaction and the way I use my hips and stuff like that.

00:10:02.000 It definitely helps me with my martial arts.

00:10:04.000 Yeah, I would imagine.

00:10:05.000 You know, I think that having a bunch of different skills, like, have you, I'm sure you're a boxing fan, did you watch the Lomachenko? 0.91

00:10:13.000 Yeah, that guy's fucking amazing. 0.98

00:10:15.000 Oh, I swear. 0.99

00:10:16.000 Oh yeah, you swear? 1.00

00:10:18.000 Go fucking crazy. 1.00

00:10:19.000 Fuck your cockballs, okay, I'm good. 1.00

00:10:20.000 There you go. 1.00

00:10:21.000 I mean, what I thought was fascinating about the commentary, they were talking about how his dad made him take four years off and just do Ukrainian dancing.

00:10:32.000 That's how he got his footwork.

00:10:34.000 Really?

00:10:34.000 Yeah.

00:10:35.000 His father said, you want to be a fighter?

00:10:36.000 He goes, well, you're going to take four years off of fighting and just learn traditional Ukrainian dancing.

00:10:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:10:43.000 I mean, his fucking father's a wizard, man. 1.00

00:10:46.000 I mean, he did something, right? 1.00

00:10:48.000 He nailed it.

00:10:49.000 He nailed it.

00:10:49.000 And, you know, they asked his dad, like, when did you know that he was going to be the champion?

00:10:53.000 He said, before he was conceived. 1.00

00:10:55.000 Like, holy shit. 1.00

00:10:56.000 That's some Russian shit right there. 1.00

00:10:58.000 That's some Ukrainian dark Soviet Union type shit. 1.00

00:11:03.000 Watch that guy. 1.00

00:11:04.000 I mean...

00:11:05.000 Dude, watching that dude, honestly, it's like poetry.

00:11:09.000 It is.

00:11:09.000 It's just, he's like...

00:11:10.000 Everything.

00:11:11.000 Even body shots.

00:11:13.000 He slides out of the way of body shots.

00:11:14.000 He slides out of the way of body shots the way a Muay Thai guy slides away from leg kicks. 0.90

00:11:19.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:11:20.000 He just moves so much different than anybody I've ever seen box before.

00:11:24.000 And then his last four opponents, the coach just threw the towel in.

00:11:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:11:27.000 Fuck this. 1.00

00:11:29.000 Fuck this! 1.00

00:11:30.000 This is terrible! 1.00

00:11:31.000 If I was throwing that dude, I'd be like, I'm done.

00:11:33.000 Not even when I walk in the ring.

00:11:34.000 Not even when I walk around in, I'm like, we're going to call it day.

00:11:36.000 I'm wondering, but I think he's one of those guys that's like a bar raiser, right?

00:11:41.000 Like where he's just raised the bar, where people look at what footwork is and they look at that guy and go, okay, this is not just like moving around a lot.

00:11:49.000 Everything's so purposeful.

00:11:50.000 Like when he turned around him, when...

00:11:53.000 Rigondial, he put his hand on his head and then spun all the way around him. 1.00

00:11:57.000 Rigondial's like, what in the fuck is going on here? 0.99

00:11:59.000 And he's a smaller guy, and he's like, what's going on? 0.99

00:12:01.000 Exactly.

00:12:02.000 That's crazy, mind-blowing.

00:12:03.000 Yeah, because it's not like he got outstruck by a bigger, heavier power puncher. 0.98

00:12:09.000 No, he got the shitboxed out of him. 0.93

00:12:11.000 He was just pop-pop, double jab, pop-pop. 0.91

00:12:13.000 Oh, where is he?

00:12:14.000 He's over here. 0.89

00:12:16.000 Crazy!

00:12:17.000 I mean, just, like, watching that guy, I mean, sorry, I'm trying to get comfortable here.

00:12:21.000 Yeah, I mean, just, that guy, it's like, I'm so happy to be, like, alive to watch this.

00:12:25.000 You know what I mean?

00:12:26.000 Yeah.

00:12:27.000 Because you're like, I was there, you know what I mean?

00:12:28.000 Yeah.

00:12:28.000 I just, I watch videos on that guy all the time.

00:12:30.000 Yeah, there he is right there. 1.00

00:12:31.000 I mean, just, the fucking guy barely gets hit. 0.98

00:12:35.000 I mean, there's no one like him in boxing, because what he's doing is he's standing literally right in front of you, and he's unavailable. 0.99

00:12:42.000 Yeah.

00:12:43.000 It's not like he's dancing all over the place and moving away. 0.99

00:12:46.000 He's doing some shit, and he's doing it in a way that nobody else is doing. 0.99

00:12:50.000 Like, Floyd had a lot of shoulder rolls, and he's slick as fuck, and Floyd stands right in front of you, too, and he ties people up and shit. 1.00

00:12:58.000 But what Lomachenko's doing is just some total next-level shit. 0.99

00:13:06.000 Yeah, he does a lot of very interesting stuff. 0.86

00:13:11.000 But I'm wondering if we're going to see this in the future now.

00:13:14.000 Obviously, when Ali came along, a bunch of guys started imitating Ali.

00:13:18.000 When Tyson came along, a bunch of guys tried to imitate Tyson.

00:13:20.000 You always see that.

00:13:21.000 I wonder how many guys are going to figure out a way to take that to the next level.

00:13:26.000 Yeah, I think some guys are gonna take it to like, not to that.

00:13:30.000 I mean, I don't know if everyone's gonna catch that level.

00:13:32.000 That's just...

00:13:32.000 Well that, you know what the next level is?

00:13:34.000 That, but with like Roy Jones Jr. power.

00:13:37.000 Yeah.

00:13:38.000 You know what I mean?

00:13:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:39.000 Like if someone figures out a way to move like that, with that kind of footwork, but that one punch, go to sleep, you know, knockout power.

00:13:47.000 That'd be sick. 0.91

00:13:48.000 Yeah, that's probably the next level.

00:13:51.000 Hopefully I'm alive for that too.

00:13:53.000 We'll see it.

00:13:54.000 I mean, this is an amazing time for all combat sports, I think.

00:13:59.000 I think the bar, like, I think with all sports, right, like if you look back at the olden days, you look back at today, the athletes are bigger, they don't know how to train better, they're faster.

00:14:07.000 But I think anywhere that's more apparent than MMA. I feel like MMA is like the best example because it's so new.

00:14:13.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:14:14.000 And like you said, it's always something that's always evolving.

00:14:17.000 Like, you know what I mean?

00:14:18.000 Like, what was it?

00:14:20.000 John Jones usually had a teep to the thigh.

00:14:21.000 Yeah.

00:14:22.000 Like that, you know, a couple years ago.

00:14:23.000 And then everyone started doing it.

00:14:25.000 And then, you know, like Benz and Henderson doing the thing.

00:14:27.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:27.000 Just, I don't know.

00:14:29.000 I just love it because it's always evolving.

00:14:32.000 You literally cannot take, like, two months off.

00:14:34.000 And if you do, people are going to pass you off.

00:14:36.000 Yeah, and it's interesting too, it's like there's different schools of thought, right?

00:14:40.000 There's like the AKA school where you have all these killers in one room, and you have like world champions beating up world champions, and then you have your gym, which is much more specialized.

00:14:51.000 You know, it's like you're the big guy to emerge from your gym, and then it's been Jessica Ai and some other high-level MMA fighters coming out of your gym.

00:14:59.000 But that's a, like a lot of people think that's the way to go, to have specialized training like Max Holloway has.

00:15:05.000 Specialized training where you're not dealing with a bunch of people that are already champs.

00:15:10.000 You're building champs.

00:15:11.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:15:12.000 My gym's awesome.

00:15:13.000 My coach, Marcus Marinelli, it's all homegrown, man.

00:15:17.000 Guys come in and he just makes them better.

00:15:22.000 I don't get any specialized training like anyone else.

00:15:25.000 Everything's pushed aside.

00:15:27.000 If the dude's got a fight, they're going first, then I go.

00:15:31.000 I'm not better than anyone else.

00:15:32.000 Yes, I'm a heavyweight champ.

00:15:34.000 I don't look at it that way.

00:15:35.000 I look at it like, alright, you've got a fight coming up.

00:15:36.000 You go first.

00:15:37.000 I'll push my training back later.

00:15:39.000 I don't care.

00:15:41.000 It's just great watching our gym.

00:15:44.000 Guys coming in, they're like, oh yeah, I want to train.

00:15:46.000 A few months later, these guys are killers.

00:15:49.000 You're like, Jesus.

00:15:50.000 We have a kid named Lexi, a 205 pounder.

00:15:53.000 Kid's an animal.

00:15:54.000 He keeps me young.

00:15:56.000 He's just turned pro.

00:15:58.000 He won his third pro fight.

00:16:00.000 I'm like, god dang.

00:16:01.000 I come in some days, I'm like...

00:16:03.000 Isn't it interesting how there's guys like that in the gym and then for whatever reason it never clicks for them?

00:16:08.000 Like there's some guys that are just so insanely talented, but they just don't have whatever it is, whether it's focus, whether it's the discipline to keep going when things get weird, to just finally realize their potential.

00:16:23.000 Like what separates a guy like that, that's like a gym killer, from a guy like you who can perform under the bright lights?

00:16:33.000 You know, when I was fighting at UFC, I don't mean the whole story here, but when I was fighting, I was like 9-0, I lost to Struve, and I thought I was unstoppable, and then Struve beat me.

00:16:43.000 I'm like, I almost didn't want to fight anymore.

00:16:45.000 I was like, I don't know if I'm ready for this anymore, and then Came back, fought Roy Nelson, had a couple more fights, and then I lost to JDS. And literally, when I walked in the back locker room, I was just like, I'm down.

00:16:55.000 I'm like, I don't even care anymore.

00:16:57.000 I don't even care what happens.

00:16:58.000 I'm going to go out there, I'm going to train, and all I'm going to do is put it all out there.

00:17:01.000 If I'm going to win, I'm going to lose.

00:17:02.000 I don't really care.

00:17:03.000 It's going to happen.

00:17:04.000 It's going to happen.

00:17:05.000 But I'm going to go out there and get my damnedest to win.

00:17:07.000 And I'm going to do whatever I'm going to do. 0.74

00:17:09.000 I just don't care.

00:17:10.000 So something switched in your head.

00:17:13.000 You can kind of see it.

00:17:15.000 One of the things I've always said about you, when you walk out to fights and during the stare down, you're stoic.

00:17:21.000 You give them dead eyes.

00:17:23.000 You're just like, you're there, here we go.

00:17:25.000 Like when you fought Verdum, when you fought Verdum in Brazil and knocked him out in the first round.

00:17:29.000 It's like, you look at your face while you're standing there. 0.99

00:17:32.000 It's like, you might be waiting in line at the fucking car wash. 1.00

00:17:34.000 You know? 0.99

00:17:35.000 I mean, you could be anywhere.

00:17:36.000 Yeah.

00:17:37.000 You're not mean mugging him.

00:17:39.000 You almost got like that Fedor face going on.

00:17:42.000 Where you're just like, here we are.

00:17:43.000 Yeah, you know, I think I get that dead face from when my wife yells at me. 1.00

00:17:46.000 I just looked at a lot of like, I just stopped carrying them.

00:17:56.000 I'm like, you know what?

00:17:56.000 I'm not going to get emotional about stuff.

00:18:00.000 I don't care.

00:18:00.000 All I care about is I'm married.

00:18:02.000 I got a beautiful wife. 0.67

00:18:03.000 She takes care of me.

00:18:04.000 End of the day, no matter what happens in this fight game, she's going to be there for me.

00:18:07.000 She likes me for who I am.

00:18:09.000 Not because I fight.

00:18:10.000 She likes me because I make her laugh.

00:18:12.000 I do good things for her.

00:18:13.000 She does good things.

00:18:13.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:14.000 Just like a marriage should be.

00:18:16.000 She was there before all this stuff happened.

00:18:19.000 She's not like a... 1.00

00:18:20.000 What do they call it?

00:18:22.000 What's the word?

00:18:22.000 Gold digger?

00:18:23.000 There we go.

00:18:25.000 I couldn't think of that. 1.00

00:18:26.000 I'm an idiot. 1.00

00:18:27.000 Something like that. 1.00

00:18:27.000 She's been there the whole time. 1.00

00:18:29.000 That's what I love about her.

00:18:30.000 So you're anchored.

00:18:32.000 Yeah, and I just stopped caring.

00:18:33.000 I was like, who cares?

00:18:34.000 If I lose, I lose.

00:18:35.000 But I'm very competitive, so I'm gonna go out there and do whatever I gotta do to win.

00:18:40.000 Yeah, Randy Couture said that once.

00:18:42.000 He was talking to young fighters, and he was saying, you can't be worried about losing.

00:18:45.000 The people who love you are always gonna love you.

00:18:47.000 You're not gonna lose anything.

00:18:48.000 You're just gonna lose a contest.

00:18:49.000 And if you're entering into something like a mixed martial arts fight, someone's gotta win and someone's gonna lose.

00:18:56.000 And you gotta learn from those losses.

00:18:59.000 Some of those losses, that devastating feeling, like I'm sure was there for you after this true fight, the rebuild from that is what makes real champions.

00:19:12.000 It helped a little bit.

00:19:13.000 I actually took my mom there.

00:19:15.000 She didn't go to the fight.

00:19:16.000 She never seen me fight.

00:19:17.000 In London, they got those big double-decker buses.

00:19:20.000 So we're going back, and my head's like, it's throbbing. 0.98

00:19:24.000 I'm like, oh, God, this sucks.

00:19:25.000 I'm driving back, and my codes are next to me. 0.59

00:19:27.000 He's trying to make me laugh.

00:19:28.000 We're all sitting there talking.

00:19:29.000 I look out the window at the hotel, and my mom's smoking cigarette.

00:19:32.000 She's like... 0.98

00:19:34.000 I look to my buddies, and I'm like, am I in fucking high school right now? 0.98

00:19:37.000 Who does that? 0.96

00:19:38.000 That right there made me feel better.

00:19:40.000 Like you said, no matter what happens, You know, always going to be...

00:19:44.000 Yeah.

00:19:44.000 You know, someone's going to be...

00:19:45.000 No matter what happens, they're going to love you no matter what.

00:19:47.000 Yeah, your family's always your family.

00:19:49.000 Your friends are always your friends.

00:19:50.000 And if they're not, they were never really your friends in the first place.

00:19:52.000 Exactly.

00:19:52.000 You're probably better off that way.

00:19:54.000 Sometimes it's good to have some losses, just so you realize who's just going to abandon you.

00:19:58.000 Yeah, right.

00:19:58.000 You know?

00:19:58.000 Yeah.

00:19:59.000 It makes sense.

00:20:00.000 So, do you have any mental coaching?

00:20:03.000 Do you do anything like that?

00:20:05.000 I did for a little bit back in the day.

00:20:09.000 After...

00:20:09.000 Was that the shoe fight?

00:20:11.000 I think it was the shoe fight.

00:20:11.000 I talked to a sports psychologist, which it turned into about a minute talking about fighting.

00:20:17.000 The next was about my personal life.

00:20:19.000 It had nothing to do with sports.

00:20:20.000 Really?

00:20:21.000 Just all I talked about.

00:20:22.000 It was just about half an hour.

00:20:24.000 I did it a few times and I walked there every time.

00:20:26.000 And that's when I started getting that mentality.

00:20:28.000 Why do I care anymore?

00:20:29.000 I just stopped caring.

00:20:30.000 I don't care anymore.

00:20:32.000 What was he trying to...

00:20:34.000 She, she. 0.57

00:20:34.000 She, sorry. 0.57

00:20:35.000 I'm a sexist.

00:20:36.000 That's okay.

00:20:37.000 I immediately assumed he's an expert.

00:20:38.000 Must be a man. 0.88

00:20:39.000 How could a woman know anything? 1.00

00:20:42.000 Such a piece of shit I am. 1.00

00:20:44.000 I love you. 1.00

00:20:44.000 But when you think about, like, that's a critical component in keeping your mental state together, right? 1.00

00:20:53.000 That's one of the things that a lot of people will talk about, like having a good support group around you, having a support system, family, friends, real loved ones.

00:21:02.000 So in her examining that, do you think she was trying to, like, reinforce, like, what matters and what's important?

00:21:10.000 You know, I never actually thought about it that way.

00:21:12.000 Maybe she's just nosy.

00:21:14.000 Maybe.

00:21:15.000 But I've known her.

00:21:15.000 I've known her for a while.

00:21:19.000 But I thought about it.

00:21:22.000 But we just started talking.

00:21:23.000 And she'd be like, so, let's talk.

00:21:26.000 And I started talking about fighting.

00:21:27.000 I'm like, yo, this and that.

00:21:29.000 And then I'd be like, yo, my girlfriend.

00:21:31.000 The girl at the time was like, she's doing this to me.

00:21:33.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:21:33.000 And she's like, She's like, psycho. 0.99

00:21:37.000 You know what I mean? 0.79

00:21:38.000 But when I walked down, I felt so much better.

00:21:42.000 Not even just because of the funny.

00:21:43.000 I think I needed to clear all that stuff out.

00:21:45.000 I just needed to get my mind straight.

00:21:47.000 They say that for people who go to shrinks.

00:21:49.000 Like if you go to a psychiatrist.

00:21:50.000 I've never gone.

00:21:51.000 But if you go, the best thing is just to talk about it.

00:21:54.000 Most people just keep things bottled up inside. 0.99

00:21:56.000 They don't have anybody to talk to about a lot of the shit that's going on inside their head. 1.00

00:21:59.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:22:00.000 That was my problem when I was younger, actually.

00:22:02.000 Especially my wife. 0.99

00:22:04.000 The one thing that made us better was that I had to communicate.

00:22:07.000 She'd get mad at me and be like... 1.00

00:22:09.000 He just bottled up.

00:22:12.000 Finally, one day, I'd be like...

00:22:13.000 She's like, whoa, whoa.

00:22:15.000 That was like two weeks ago.

00:22:16.000 Calm down, dude.

00:22:17.000 You know what I mean?

00:22:19.000 I was like, well, you told me that.

00:22:21.000 Now it's just talking to that lady and just opening up more.

00:22:25.000 When something bothers me, she hates it now because I'm like, listen...

00:22:29.000 You know, you need to do this.

00:22:30.000 Like, you know, she'll go, oh, what's up, tough guy?

00:22:32.000 Now, you're a full-time firefighter, too, as well as being the UFC heavyweight champion.

00:22:37.000 How do you balance that?

00:22:39.000 Well, I'm part-time, actually, at two departments.

00:22:41.000 Oh, okay.

00:22:41.000 You know, but it's just tough, because being full-time, you know, I didn't get hired full-time, so I couldn't, you know, it'd be tough to do both.

00:22:49.000 You know, if I did before, it'd be a lot easier, but I can't just take a test because you have to do probation year-long, and then you can't fight.

00:22:54.000 Right.

00:22:54.000 So while you're fighting, you work part-time, and do you have it set up where, you know, like you tell them in advance, like, hey, I got a January 20th fight.

00:23:02.000 Yeah.

00:23:02.000 So I already picked my schedule.

00:23:05.000 So a month in advance, like, one station, I pick it within the first week.

00:23:09.000 I pick my whole month, and then the next station, we go, like, seniority.

00:23:15.000 So when I come up, I pick my schedule, so I make sure that, you know, It's already picked out.

00:23:19.000 So I literally work probably five times in about two weeks.

00:23:23.000 12 hour shifts.

00:23:24.000 How much does that get in the way of your training?

00:23:26.000 Never.

00:23:27.000 Never?

00:23:27.000 No.

00:23:29.000 How does that work?

00:23:30.000 Just the way I pick my schedule.

00:23:32.000 If I had to do, I could trade someone or someone's coming in.

00:23:34.000 I make it work.

00:23:35.000 And they're amazing people.

00:23:37.000 Both stations are amazing.

00:23:39.000 The chiefs are great.

00:23:40.000 The guys that work, I mean, actually a lot of them are coming to the fight January 20th.

00:23:44.000 Yeah, well, that's an interesting thing about firefighters is that a lot of times you get those 24-hour shifts, you know, and where, you know, you get a chance to work out, you can cook, you know, hanging out with guys.

00:23:56.000 It's like once the duties are done around the firehouse, right?

00:23:59.000 Yeah, I play a lot of Call of Duty.

00:24:00.000 Do you?

00:24:01.000 Oh, yeah.

00:24:03.000 They're losing a 10-year-old kid.

00:24:04.000 It's a crazy job because when you have to do something, what you have to do is so extreme and what's demanded of you is just insane.

00:24:12.000 I'm sure you've been paying attention to what's going on just a few miles from here in Ventura.

00:24:17.000 It's out of control.

00:24:18.000 You know what's crazy is that we just went past, was it Getty Boulevard?

00:24:23.000 Yeah, Getty Center.

00:24:24.000 I saw that.

00:24:24.000 It looked like it was like Armageddon.

00:24:26.000 And then we just passed it today and it was like burnt.

00:24:28.000 It was nuts.

00:24:29.000 Like a couple days ago, that's what it would look like.

00:24:31.000 It was like shocking. 1.00

00:24:32.000 Well, LA's a fucking mess. 0.99

00:24:34.000 You know, the beautiful thing about California is we don't have any weather. 1.00

00:24:37.000 It never rains.

00:24:38.000 But the terrible thing is, once it gets crispy, and the other night, you know, when this was all happening, I was at my house, and the wind was blowing like ridiculous.

00:24:46.000 They were calling it a dry hurricane, because the wind was so crazy.

00:24:49.000 Trees were falling down all over the place. 0.99

00:24:51.000 And the thought was, man, if a fire gets lit here, we're fucked. 0.98

00:24:55.000 And then, boom, they start popping up. 0.99

00:24:57.000 It was a natural?

00:24:59.000 No.

00:25:00.000 I don't think so.

00:25:01.000 I think there's a lot of psychos out there. 0.99

00:25:03.000 I think there's a lot of fucking people that recognize these are crazy fire conditions, and they just want to light something on fire, and they do, and they step away, and then next thing you know, it's a 300,000 acre fire. 0.99

00:25:15.000 There's accidents for sure, but I think for sure some of this is arson. 0.99

00:25:18.000 That was within a day or two of all those ones burning.

00:25:21.000 Yeah, how is that possible?

00:25:22.000 That's kind of weird. 1.00

00:25:23.000 Yeah, there's a bunch of fucking psychos out there. 1.00

00:25:25.000 That's what I think. 1.00

00:25:26.000 I think there's definitely some accidents and obviously those winds exacerbate anything that would have been a small fire.

00:25:32.000 Like there was a small fire in my neighborhood a couple months ago.

00:25:35.000 But it wasn't windy, and the firefighters jumped on it quick, and they put the house down.

00:25:39.000 But, man, when the winds were the way they were, you were having chunks of embers that were flying six, seven hundred yards away, flying through the air, this and that, and everywhere.

00:25:47.000 There was no way they could stay on top of it.

00:25:49.000 Yeah, that's scary.

00:25:52.000 Terrifying.

00:25:52.000 We have brush fires.

00:25:55.000 Yeah, well, that's the good thing about Ohio.

00:25:57.000 Yeah, right now, I think we've got six or seven inches of snow.

00:26:00.000 Yeah.

00:26:01.000 Yeah, listen man, snow, you just need snow tires.

00:26:04.000 That's it.

00:26:04.000 You know, warm clothes, snow tires, you're good.

00:26:07.000 Fucking firestorm, it's not good. 0.97

00:26:10.000 Yeah, I mean, that's like, oh God, that's scary, man. 0.99

00:26:13.000 Like, just reading about it and just seeing it and just seeing the pictures, just, you know, you feel terrible for the people.

00:26:18.000 You know, we actually have friends in San Diego, they had to get evacuated.

00:26:21.000 Yeah.

00:26:21.000 They said there was an 85% chance that their house would be gone.

00:26:24.000 Jesus.

00:26:25.000 They came back and within a tenth of a mile, the fire stopped.

00:26:28.000 They got lucky.

00:26:28.000 Yeah.

00:26:29.000 I've been evacuated twice.

00:26:30.000 That's scary. 1.00

00:26:31.000 Yeah, it's scary, but, you know, you just gotta get out quick, throw the dogs in the back, let's go, fuck it. 1.00

00:26:36.000 Yeah, I mean... 1.00

00:26:36.000 You know, part of it's like cleansing. 1.00

00:26:38.000 Like, all that stuff in your house is not you. 1.00

00:26:40.000 Your fucking TV or your clothes, that's not you. 1.00

00:26:42.000 You're you. 1.00

00:26:43.000 Yeah.

00:26:43.000 You'll be all right.

00:26:44.000 It's a much holistic thing.

00:26:44.000 I always buy a new one.

00:26:45.000 Yeah, just fucking stay with your grandmother for a while. 1.00

00:26:48.000 You'd be fine. 1.00

00:26:50.000 Everybody will live.

00:26:51.000 As long as you get out, you're alright.

00:26:53.000 You'll rebuild, get back.

00:26:55.000 Sometimes it's a, I mean, it's not a good thing to lose everything that you work for, but sometimes it's a good thing to know that you are vulnerable.

00:27:01.000 You know, like in these fires, like I think, it's one thing that LA is missing, is humility that's brought on by the weather. 0.96

00:27:09.000 Like, you know how it is in Cleveland, when it fucking snows, right?

00:27:13.000 When it snows out, and it's thick, There's that feeling in the air where everybody calms down, right? 0.94

00:27:20.000 Everybody's like, okay. 0.98

00:27:21.000 There's no one driving like a fucking crazy psychopath when it's snow. 0.99

00:27:24.000 Everybody's going real kind of slow, slow and steady. 0.99

00:27:27.000 Your back tires are kicking out a little bit.

00:27:29.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:30.000 That keeps people humble.

00:27:32.000 Yeah, we actually...

00:27:33.000 What was it?

00:27:35.000 The weekend of...

00:27:36.000 What was it?

00:27:37.000 Which one?

00:27:38.000 New York, Madison Square Garden.

00:27:39.000 Which one was it?

00:27:39.000 UFC what?

00:27:40.000 UFC. What was that?

00:27:41.000 What number was that?

00:27:43.000 I don't know.

00:27:44.000 2-11?

00:27:44.000 Whatever.

00:27:45.000 Whatever it was.

00:27:47.000 So I'm coming home.

00:27:48.000 My wife's like, hey, you know, there's a huge storm coming. 0.99

00:27:50.000 She's like, you know, I'm like, cool.

00:27:52.000 She calls me again.

00:27:53.000 At my house, we have actually a built-in generator, so if the power goes out, Oh, that's nice.

00:27:57.000 So I'm like, sweet, dude, awesome.

00:27:58.000 So every Saturday I would hear it kick on.

00:28:00.000 I'm like, awesome, this thing works great.

00:28:01.000 Of course, the time it needs to work, the power goes out, it's dead.

00:28:05.000 So the battery busted on it.

00:28:06.000 So we came home, and I came home, and I flew home that night, and it was like a zombie apocalypse, man.

00:28:11.000 It was like stuff everywhere.

00:28:13.000 It was all dark.

00:28:14.000 There was trees on top of everything.

00:28:15.000 It was crazy.

00:28:16.000 And then they said like 15 tornadoes touched down between Indiana, Ohio, and PA. And so we came to my house and it was like, I have one big tree in my yard.

00:28:26.000 I have eight and a half acres.

00:28:27.000 I have one big tree.

00:28:28.000 That magically got split in half.

00:28:30.000 Wow.

00:28:30.000 Then our barn, we have a barn.

00:28:32.000 It has like a little softener on the side.

00:28:34.000 That all, like half of it got ripped down.

00:28:36.000 It was crazy.

00:28:37.000 I mean, it was like...

00:28:39.000 We had a gazebo that got ripped down.

00:28:42.000 It's humbling.

00:28:42.000 Yeah, but like you said, it's humbling because we're not safe.

00:28:46.000 But at least we found out that the generator didn't work.

00:28:48.000 Now we're good.

00:28:49.000 Because it actually worked the other day.

00:28:50.000 It was so windy that the power went out and it actually kicked down.

00:28:53.000 I was like, oh, good.

00:28:54.000 Yeah, there's something that's comforting about hearing that.

00:28:57.000 When I lived in Colorado, we had a generator.

00:28:59.000 The power would go out and you're like, ooh, I'm okay.

00:29:04.000 I'm safe.

00:29:06.000 Yeah.

00:29:06.000 Are you handy?

00:29:07.000 Do you fix shit? 1.00

00:29:07.000 Oh, God, no. 1.00

00:29:08.000 I have a buddy, Rick.

00:29:11.000 Actually, he was over the other day.

00:29:13.000 I was like, hey.

00:29:14.000 He said, what's that, man?

00:29:14.000 I'm like, hey.

00:29:15.000 I'm like, what are you doing?

00:29:15.000 He's like, I'm going to your house.

00:29:16.000 I'm like, uh, what?

00:29:19.000 He's like, yeah, I talked to you.

00:29:20.000 I actually need you to fix something.

00:29:20.000 I'm like, all right, cool.

00:29:21.000 I'll see you at the gym.

00:29:23.000 So he comes over and does that for me.

00:29:24.000 I mean, I do help him out, but it's mostly, it's all him.

00:29:26.000 You're lucky.

00:29:27.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:29:28.000 Lucky to know somebody who can fix shit. 0.99

00:29:29.000 Yeah, I'm terrible at that stuff, man. 0.99

00:29:31.000 I'm like, I make it worse. 0.99

00:29:32.000 Well, especially if you live in a place like where there's fucking tornadoes. 0.98

00:29:36.000 Like, can you, is there a tornado-proof house? 0.99

00:29:39.000 Can you make a house, like, remember, like, three little pigs?

00:29:42.000 You remember?

00:29:42.000 Like, the guy with the bricks.

00:29:43.000 You can make a little shelter in the ground, I guess.

00:29:46.000 I don't know.

00:29:47.000 You know, I don't, like a little, I don't know.

00:29:50.000 Like, little doors.

00:29:51.000 I have no idea. 0.99

00:29:52.000 Right, like Wizard of Oz type shit. 0.98

00:29:53.000 I guess, yeah. 0.98

00:29:54.000 Yeah, you'd have to make something that, like, was underground, right?

00:29:58.000 Like, some underground.

00:29:59.000 Did dudes have that? 0.77

00:30:00.000 Remember when we were kids, like, a lot of guys had, like, not a lot of guys, but people were talking about building bomb shelters in their backyard?

00:30:07.000 Yeah.

00:30:07.000 That was like a big thing.

00:30:08.000 It's kind of like that.

00:30:08.000 Yeah, yeah, kind of like that thing, yeah.

00:30:10.000 Yeah.

00:30:11.000 Well, my basement's pretty...

00:30:12.000 It's not bad.

00:30:13.000 It's got a few, like, center block windows, like the...

00:30:15.000 Right.

00:30:16.000 Whatever.

00:30:16.000 That's about it.

00:30:17.000 I mean...

00:30:17.000 So you probably survived down there.

00:30:18.000 Yeah.

00:30:19.000 Very good.

00:30:19.000 Plus, we have, like, a little area, too, with, like, with the...

00:30:24.000 The furnace and stuff so we can hide in there.

00:30:26.000 Do you work out at home at all?

00:30:27.000 No.

00:30:29.000 Actually, I have a 3,000 square foot barn with radiant heat, so it's warm all year round.

00:30:35.000 It's awesome.

00:30:36.000 Everyone's like, dude, you should put a cage in there.

00:30:37.000 I'm like, hell no.

00:30:39.000 This is my sanctuary.

00:30:40.000 This is where I go and I watch TV and I relax and I do fun stuff.

00:30:45.000 No, I'm not bringing anything.

00:30:46.000 My wife does.

00:30:47.000 My wife, she has some Onnit stuff. 0.97

00:30:49.000 We have her little kettlebells. 1.00

00:30:52.000 Yeah, that's probably a good attitude, right?

00:30:59.000 To burn it all out in the gym and then home is peace.

00:31:02.000 Yep.

00:31:03.000 I mean, well, it's peaceful as it can be, you know, if I piss off the wife and it's not so peaceful.

00:31:08.000 How do you relax?

00:31:09.000 Like, when you're the UFC heavyweight champion in the world, like, that's a tremendous amount of pressure and stress.

00:31:16.000 Play some Call of Duty.

00:31:17.000 I don't know.

00:31:17.000 Just hang out.

00:31:18.000 Honestly, I just chill.

00:31:20.000 I don't do much.

00:31:21.000 Like, you know, John Vellante?

00:31:22.000 I'm him.

00:31:22.000 I play with him online with a bunch of guys from New York.

00:31:24.000 We just sit there and talk smack, talk shit to little kids and make yourself feel better, you know? 1.00

00:31:29.000 Imagine you're playing online, Call of Duty, and the UFC Heavyweight Champion's talking shit to you. 1.00

00:31:35.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:31:36.000 My buddy was actually, we were playing one time with Nate, and he's like, the guy's like, come over and kick your ass. 1.00

00:31:41.000 My buddy's like, just let me do it. 1.00

00:31:43.000 I'm like, shh, don't you fucking say a word. 0.96

00:31:45.000 I'm like, just let him have his moment. 1.00

00:31:47.000 Come over and kick your ass. 1.00

00:31:49.000 That's hilarious. 1.00

00:31:49.000 I mean, it's so funny to get direct messages and stuff like that. 1.00

00:31:52.000 You're a terrible person.

00:31:53.000 They're threatening you? 0.99

00:31:53.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:31:54.000 You're such a noob, and you're like, I don't know where you live, but I fucking find you and I kill you. 1.00

00:31:59.000 I'm like, ugh. 1.00

00:32:00.000 It's so funny. 1.00

00:32:01.000 Imagine the thought that would go through their head if they found out who the fuck they were talking to. 1.00

00:32:05.000 Well, the horror. 1.00

00:32:07.000 When you hear some 14-year-old shit-talking kid, I'll fucking come to your house, stick my dick in your mouth. 1.00

00:32:15.000 You find out you're talking to the UFC heavyweight champ. 1.00

00:32:18.000 You're like, oh Jesus.

00:32:19.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:19.000 Oh, Jesus, Lord.

00:32:21.000 What have I done?

00:32:22.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:22.000 Yeah.

00:32:23.000 I remember we were in Vegas, funny like that.

00:32:25.000 Some guy had no idea. 0.98

00:32:26.000 Not being taught this shit, but we went to a Bud Light party, and we went up to this one mansion. 0.99

00:32:31.000 It was crazy. 1.00

00:32:32.000 We were having fun.

00:32:33.000 They had a bunch of different Elvis Presleys, whatever.

00:32:36.000 They had all these models they hired. 0.92

00:32:37.000 Some with my wife, and we're hanging out.

00:32:38.000 And I'm sitting there just looking straight, not looking around, because there's a lot of good-looking girls. 1.00

00:32:43.000 I'm like, this...

00:32:44.000 You know, and so anyway, I'm like, do you want anything?

00:32:46.000 I'm gonna go get some macaroni and cheese.

00:32:47.000 She's like, yeah, because they're like, very randomly, I'll never forget that macaroni and cheese.

00:32:50.000 I wanted to go get some macaroni and cheese, and I came back, and she was talking to my wife, and I'm like, hmm.

00:32:55.000 So I'm like, He turns around and he's like, I'm so sorry, I didn't know!

00:33:01.000 He was being nice.

00:33:02.000 My wife was like, he was being nice.

00:33:03.000 He just asked me what I was doing.

00:33:04.000 But he had no idea that I was with her.

00:33:06.000 Yeah, what a disaster.

00:33:07.000 Yeah, it was actually pretty funny.

00:33:09.000 That guy really pissed his pants.

00:33:11.000 It was the greatest thing ever.

00:33:12.000 Do people treat you any different around the fire station or is it pretty normal?

00:33:16.000 It's gotten worse.

00:33:17.000 Worse? 1.00

00:33:17.000 Yeah, they treat me like garbage. 1.00

00:33:21.000 I always say they give me a plunger, like, hey, go to Town Champ. 0.98

00:33:23.000 I'm like...

00:33:24.000 Really?

00:33:25.000 Yeah, they don't care.

00:33:27.000 That's funny.

00:33:28.000 Yeah, but they're good guys.

00:33:29.000 I mean, I love them.

00:33:30.000 Both stations, they're just, you know, Oakland and Valley View, those guys are just good guys.

00:33:34.000 They're just always, you know, like they actually, when I fought in Brazil, so they couldn't go to a fight, so they flew to Vegas and had their own watch party in Vegas to watch the fight.

00:33:41.000 How convenient.

00:33:42.000 They couldn't stay in Ohio.

00:33:44.000 They had to go to Vegas.

00:33:44.000 Yeah, honey, I gotta go to Vegas to support Stipe.

00:33:47.000 He's fighting in Vegas? 0.99

00:33:48.000 No, no, no, he's in Brazil, but the hookers are in Vegas. 0.99

00:33:51.000 I gotta go where I gotta go. 0.92

00:33:54.000 Yeah, no, I mean, honestly, they're great guys.

00:33:56.000 I mean, they're just...

00:33:57.000 You know, as I, you know, became champ, they were okay. 0.99

00:34:01.000 I felt bad for them, though, because, like, literally, so I, you won the title on Saturday, I flew in on Monday, I got home Monday, and I think worked Wednesday at the one station, and literally, like, everyone found out, and that phone did not stop ringing in the doorbell, and they were, like, looking at me, like, are you serious, you motherfucker? 0.98

00:34:16.000 We're supposed to be taking naps right now, like, you know, ding dong, ding dong. 0.98

00:34:19.000 Where's the champ?

00:34:20.000 Oh, I was so, I felt so, like, they understood, but I felt really bad, because, like, I wanted to relax, too, you know?

00:34:24.000 Didn't they have, like, a little parade for you?

00:34:26.000 Yeah, um, Yeah, not a little parade.

00:34:29.000 Yeah, I'm joking.

00:34:30.000 It was big.

00:34:31.000 Yeah, it was pretty big.

00:34:32.000 1.3 million or 6 million.

00:34:34.000 That's crazy.

00:34:35.000 Yeah, it was nuts.

00:34:35.000 It was so hot, too.

00:34:37.000 UFC's like, hey, dude, here's a jersey.

00:34:39.000 I'm like, are you serious right now?

00:34:40.000 You want me to wear this black jersey right now?

00:34:42.000 Oh, they wanted to wear one of them Reebok kits?

00:34:44.000 Yeah, it was so hot.

00:34:45.000 It was like 90 degrees.

00:34:46.000 I'm like...

00:34:48.000 I was struggling.

00:34:49.000 It was so bad.

00:34:50.000 But honestly, it was cool, man.

00:34:52.000 Everyone's screaming.

00:34:53.000 It was so many people.

00:34:55.000 It was great to see.

00:34:57.000 There it is.

00:34:58.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:35:00.000 Yeah, you're sweating like a pig. 0.90

00:35:02.000 That was so bad. 0.55

00:35:03.000 Is it weird, like, walking around the street now?

00:35:07.000 Like, what is normal life for you?

00:35:10.000 Normal?

00:35:10.000 Normal, man.

00:35:10.000 Everyone's so nice.

00:35:11.000 They don't, like, render me like, oh, what's up, man?

00:35:15.000 They're just like, hey, good to see you, champ.

00:35:16.000 How you doing?

00:35:16.000 Do you think there's any benefit in keeping a day job?

00:35:19.000 Do you think, like, in any way it's, like, good for your head or anything?

00:35:22.000 I think so.

00:35:23.000 I definitely think so.

00:35:24.000 I think it keeps me grounded because, you know, we don't always talk about fighting, you know, but like it just, you know, other things to worry about.

00:35:30.000 I don't have to worry about fighting and this and that.

00:35:31.000 Keeps my mind off of it.

00:35:32.000 But I think also, too, there's always a plan B, you know.

00:35:35.000 I feel like I could walk out of here, trip or fall, and break my hand and never fight again.

00:35:38.000 You just never know.

00:35:39.000 So that's why you keep the job?

00:35:41.000 A little bit, but I really work hard and make my mom proud.

00:35:45.000 Plus, I love helping people.

00:35:46.000 My whole life, like I said, I've always been helped.

00:35:49.000 Because I was thinking about being a Coast Guard, a police officer, and my buddies were like, dude, check out the fireman, dude.

00:35:54.000 It's a great job.

00:35:55.000 I looked at him like, yeah.

00:35:56.000 Get full-time, 24-hour, 48-off?

00:35:58.000 That's awesome, man.

00:35:59.000 Who would want to do that?

00:36:03.000 But some people would say, to be at the top of your game, you literally must devote all of your time to it, all the time.

00:36:09.000 And that you wouldn't have enough time...

00:36:12.000 To work a regular job.

00:36:15.000 I mean, I make it work, man.

00:36:17.000 I don't care.

00:36:18.000 I work a lot of Sundays.

00:36:20.000 I do 24 hours on Sundays.

00:36:21.000 So if you just hit the lottery tomorrow and you got $100 million, you'd quit.

00:36:25.000 Oh, yeah.

00:36:26.000 I'm out.

00:36:27.000 Who wouldn't?

00:36:28.000 Who wouldn't?

00:36:29.000 But that's the point.

00:36:30.000 What if, say, you continue your title run and you make more and more money, become a giant superstar like you deserve to be, and you start making those Conor McGregor checks?

00:36:42.000 You're gonna keep that job?

00:36:43.000 Yeah.

00:36:43.000 Really?

00:36:44.000 I will, yeah.

00:36:44.000 Really?

00:36:45.000 Yeah, no, if I win a lot of- You're gonna get a lot of hit-ups for loans.

00:36:47.000 This is gonna happen.

00:36:48.000 Trust me.

00:36:49.000 I've already been there, done that.

00:36:50.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:36:52.000 It's so bad.

00:36:53.000 I'm like, it's like my family.

00:36:54.000 I'm like, bro.

00:36:55.000 My family don't even bother me.

00:36:56.000 I'm like, this is great.

00:36:57.000 But like, friends and stuff, I'm like, Jesus, really?

00:36:59.000 They want loans, right?

00:37:00.000 Yeah.

00:37:01.000 That you know are not loans.

00:37:03.000 No.

00:37:04.000 Nobody's ever paying you back.

00:37:04.000 I get out one loan.

00:37:05.000 The only one I've ever get out, and it came back.

00:37:07.000 Really?

00:37:07.000 It came back, yeah.

00:37:08.000 You got lucky.

00:37:08.000 Yeah, I did.

00:37:09.000 Actually, it's that guy that looks like my brother with the mustache.

00:37:13.000 Steak and potatoes.

00:37:14.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:37:15.000 My coach.

00:37:15.000 Oh, oh.

00:37:16.000 The guy with the mustache that last night we were talking about.

00:37:19.000 This is when Schwab was here and what's his other buddy's name?

00:37:25.000 What's his name?

00:37:26.000 Brian Callen?

00:37:26.000 Yeah.

00:37:27.000 Who's that?

00:37:27.000 His brother or something?

00:37:28.000 Remember in the Cajun?

00:37:29.000 Oh, right, right, right, right, right.

00:37:31.000 He actually started his own business to help them out.

00:37:33.000 He's the only guy I trust.

00:37:34.000 Well, that's someone that you're close to. 0.99

00:37:36.000 But it's always people that you're kind of like in the periphery that have some stupid business idea that can't go wrong. 0.99

00:37:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:37:42.000 It can't go wrong.

00:37:43.000 Those people are my favorite.

00:37:45.000 This can't miss.

00:37:46.000 Yeah, I don't play that game.

00:37:47.000 Plus, my wife is someone pretty much in charge of the money. 1.00

00:37:50.000 That's good.

00:37:51.000 That's good.

00:37:51.000 You have, like, removal from it.

00:37:53.000 Like, hey, I can't even do anything.

00:37:54.000 I'm sorry.

00:37:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:37:55.000 I blame her and she's like, she don't care.

00:37:56.000 Can't even buy sneakers.

00:37:57.000 Yeah.

00:37:58.000 I can't even buy underwear for myself.

00:38:00.000 I can't wait for my next fight.

00:38:01.000 So, who schedules your training?

00:38:03.000 Like, say if you're going to do a big camp for, like, this Ngannou fight, like, who schedules what you do all the time?

00:38:11.000 My coach, Marcus, he usually sits me down and he's like, I want this guy here, I want this guy here, I think we should bring this guy in.

00:38:17.000 We kind of just figure it all out.

00:38:18.000 So does he have all this written out?

00:38:20.000 Like he'd like a certain amount of rounds, he wants a certain amount of strength and conditioning.

00:38:23.000 So is he your overall trainer?

00:38:25.000 Yeah, he's my head coach.

00:38:28.000 Figures everything out.

00:38:29.000 We have my boxing coach, Alex.

00:38:30.000 I have my strength and conditioning, Bobby.

00:38:32.000 You know, I have Steve.

00:38:33.000 The guy that looks like me with the mustache.

00:38:35.000 Yeah, he's a grappling kind of more of my dude.

00:38:37.000 Just kind of makes me feel good about myself.

00:38:39.000 You know, just a fun dude.

00:38:40.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:38:40.000 I tear him apart and talk shit to him. 1.00

00:38:42.000 Right. 1.00

00:38:42.000 You know, I make myself feel better about myself. 1.00

00:38:44.000 You know, like, God, you're so old and fat. 0.97

00:38:46.000 Like, I feel good. 0.93

00:38:47.000 You know what I mean?

00:38:48.000 But, yeah, Marcus, he sets it all up, makes sure it's all good, you know, Monday, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, and then, you know, just Saturdays.

00:38:55.000 I just take Fridays off.

00:38:56.000 How much strength and conditioning do you do?

00:38:58.000 I don't do too much.

00:38:59.000 I don't do, like, heavy lifting.

00:39:02.000 You know what I mean?

00:39:02.000 Because it's not a powerlifting competition.

00:39:05.000 It's a fight.

00:39:06.000 Right.

00:39:06.000 So, like, on Tuesdays, I do posterior chain work for my lower back and my half.

00:39:11.000 We have...

00:39:11.000 You ever know Westside Barbell?

00:39:12.000 Sure.

00:39:13.000 You know the bow squat? 0.78

00:39:15.000 Yeah, I love that thing.

00:39:16.000 They're putting one in here.

00:39:17.000 Oh, really?

00:39:18.000 Yeah.

00:39:19.000 Yeah, dude, Louie Simmons is the bomb.

00:39:21.000 Good dude, isn't he?

00:39:21.000 I love that guy.

00:39:22.000 He's a freak.

00:39:23.000 We had one of the best podcasts ever with him. 1.00

00:39:25.000 He's so fucking crazy. 1.00

00:39:27.000 He's out of his mind. 1.00

00:39:28.000 My coach is one of the OGs with him.

00:39:30.000 He worked out in his garage before it became like it is now.

00:39:33.000 He used to just train with him back in the day.

00:39:35.000 Yeah, we went there.

00:39:36.000 He gave us a tour, and that whole belt squat thing, that thing's amazing.

00:39:40.000 Oh, it's awesome.

00:39:41.000 Plus, it gives you traction and not so much strength.

00:39:43.000 So, you know, I do that.

00:39:46.000 The new one is even awesomer now, too, which is great.

00:39:48.000 You can deadlift off of it, and you can do rubber bands.

00:39:52.000 They're geniuses over there that just do an amazing job.

00:39:53.000 So I do a bunch of that, like reverse hypers.

00:39:56.000 Yeah, I've got a reverse hyper machine back here.

00:39:58.000 Yeah, the pendulum swings real good, too.

00:39:59.000 That thing's amazing.

00:40:00.000 Yeah, that reverse hyper is a back fixer.

00:40:03.000 Night and day.

00:40:04.000 It's the craziest thing.

00:40:05.000 I mean, if you have a back issue, ladies and gentlemen, please just Google reverse hyper.

00:40:10.000 It is an amazing machine that Louie Simmons created, and it literally decompresses your spine and strengthens it at the same time.

00:40:18.000 It is a work of art.

00:40:19.000 Yeah, I mean, I love it.

00:40:21.000 Geez, I can't talk to you.

00:40:23.000 I'm excited.

00:40:24.000 Yeah, there it is right here. 0.99

00:40:25.000 Look at me, motherfucking paperboy hat. 0.99

00:40:28.000 Put that belt squat thing on. 0.99

00:40:30.000 That thing's amazing, man.

00:40:32.000 Yeah.

00:40:32.000 I feel like having that thing on you, you would seriously develop some real power in your movements and your ability to push off.

00:40:41.000 I think for striking, that would be fucking incredible, that thing.

00:40:45.000 Yeah, I did what I did yesterday. 0.95

00:40:46.000 I did three five-minute rounds at 290. So do you shadow box while you're doing that?

00:40:51.000 Yeah, it depends what I do.

00:40:52.000 I do a little shadow box.

00:40:53.000 The first one I did marching, then I slide back and forth just a little bit.

00:40:56.000 Then I do a...

00:40:57.000 It's kind of funny, but I actually grab the bar and I thrust my hips.

00:41:00.000 It actually helps me.

00:41:01.000 It works my hips and helps me with my lower back. 0.81

00:41:04.000 Next round we did, I would squat, medicine ball, throw it to one coach, squat, throw it back, back and forth for five minutes, and then the other one I would do, like, bird bands.

00:41:12.000 Keep moving a little bit like that.

00:41:15.000 Have you evolved this over time?

00:41:18.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:18.000 We actually have a medicine ball that was strapped up, like a Muay Thai clinch.

00:41:25.000 So we did that for five minutes.

00:41:27.000 That was terrible, actually.

00:41:30.000 So that was actually not fun at all.

00:41:31.000 We did that, and then we had these massive, like, I don't know what they were.

00:41:36.000 They almost look like a part of a boat, but there's these big metal rings, like oval rings, and they had chains on them.

00:41:42.000 And we just sit there and just walk like this and keep your hands up high and just...

00:41:45.000 So just working on keep your hands up.

00:41:47.000 Plus we put the Vertimax in there.

00:41:48.000 You ever Vertimax?

00:41:49.000 No, what's a Vertimax?

00:41:50.000 So it's like a little platform.

00:41:55.000 It's got all straps and all resistance.

00:41:58.000 It's pretty cool.

00:41:59.000 So you can jump and punch and...

00:42:01.000 Oh, you know, I think I have seen that before.

00:42:03.000 It's like, it's strapped up to different parts of your body.

00:42:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:42:06.000 So you can throw knees and punches and kicks and stuff like that.

00:42:09.000 Yes, we add that to that, so it's pretty interesting.

00:42:12.000 And you operate on rounds?

00:42:13.000 You do, like, rounds when you're doing that?

00:42:15.000 Yeah, we do five-minute rounds.

00:42:16.000 Yeah.

00:42:16.000 So, like, when we go back and forth with that and stuff like that, it can be one heavy, one resistance and...

00:42:23.000 So, do they monitor your heart rate?

00:42:25.000 No?

00:42:26.000 No, I just push it to the limit.

00:42:28.000 I don't worry about it.

00:42:29.000 You know, like, I do listen to my body if I'm tired or I'm struggling, you know.

00:42:33.000 Like, the last camp for JDS camp, I don't know what I was thinking, but I did, like, I was already doing five five-minute rounds within, like, the first, like, 12 weeks before the fight.

00:42:42.000 And I was, like, fine.

00:42:43.000 I was like, oh, yeah, I feel good.

00:42:44.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

00:42:45.000 And then, like, eight weeks in, I was like, I just died.

00:42:48.000 You went too hard. 0.99

00:42:49.000 Yeah, I was being just a dumb jock. 0.99

00:42:52.000 Well, that's what I wanted to say. 0.99

00:42:55.000 Not that you're a dumb jock, but what's the way you prepare for a major championship fight? 0.96

00:43:01.000 What is the build-up like? 0.99

00:43:03.000 How do you know when to push too hard?

00:43:06.000 How do you know when you're peaking, when to back off?

00:43:09.000 Well, every fight, two weeks out, I stop sparring.

00:43:12.000 I don't spar two weeks before a fight.

00:43:13.000 Two weeks?

00:43:14.000 Two weeks.

00:43:14.000 Why is that?

00:43:15.000 Just let my body rest.

00:43:17.000 No building my body.

00:43:18.000 It hurt my body.

00:43:19.000 That's the reason I made that JDS fight.

00:43:21.000 Really?

00:43:22.000 Everything hurt so bad.

00:43:23.000 I would wake up in the morning and just stretching out.

00:43:25.000 I could feel the pain in my bones.

00:43:28.000 From sparring?

00:43:28.000 Just soreness.

00:43:29.000 Yeah, I was just being sore.

00:43:30.000 From sparring, from doing everything, grappling, just on and on, boxing, whatever.

00:43:36.000 And then two weeks, man, I felt like a million dollars.

00:43:38.000 So what do you do for those two weeks out?

00:43:40.000 I do pad work, conditioning, running, and stuff like that.

00:43:42.000 Just keep my mind straight, my mind right.

00:43:46.000 Working a pad, just like technique, going over the game plan for the week.

00:43:50.000 Yeah, everybody's got a different strategy for that.

00:43:52.000 Matt Hughes told me he would work out hard right up until the day of the fight.

00:43:57.000 He's like, that's what we've always done.

00:43:58.000 It's what I've always done.

00:44:00.000 It feels right for me.

00:44:01.000 It puts his mind in a good place, I guess, too.

00:44:04.000 Yeah, that's old school.

00:44:06.000 It worked for him.

00:44:09.000 He's one of the best of all time.

00:44:10.000 Yeah, no doubt.

00:44:12.000 But I talked to another coach who said that when he was competing, that what he would do is the last week of the fight, he literally wouldn't do anything.

00:44:22.000 He goes, I wouldn't work out at all.

00:44:23.000 I go, nothing?

00:44:24.000 He goes, nothing.

00:44:25.000 He goes, I might ride my bike. 0.99

00:44:26.000 He goes, I might swim a little bit because I don't do shit. 0.98

00:44:28.000 He goes, I already know how to fight. 0.99

00:44:29.000 He goes, I'm already in shape.

00:44:30.000 He goes, I'm just trying to recover. 0.99

00:44:32.000 And he goes, and you think about it, like if you haven't worked out in a week, when you go and work out, you're like, fucking argh! 0.98

00:44:37.000 Yeah, it's like that. 0.96

00:44:38.000 You feel so powerful and energetic because everything's recovered.

00:44:41.000 And he's like, that's how I want to be when I'm fighting.

00:44:43.000 Yeah.

00:44:43.000 And I'm like, okay.

00:44:44.000 I think that's how I, you know, I still go hard.

00:44:47.000 You know, I still do my rounds and, you know, I'm pushing the limit.

00:44:51.000 But, you know, I definitely just the last two weeks just let my body rest from getting beat up.

00:44:54.000 Yeah.

00:44:55.000 No, it makes sense.

00:44:55.000 Get my mind right, too, you know.

00:44:57.000 Do you have any sort of recovery methods?

00:44:59.000 Do you do like cryotherapy or massage or ice baths or?

00:45:03.000 Yeah, I do ice baths on my own, but I do cryo now.

00:45:07.000 I have a place that hooks me up, so I go there, back in Cleveland.

00:45:09.000 I do Epsom salt probably once a week with a, what is it, menthol?

00:45:13.000 Is it menthol?

00:45:17.000 Aren't those cigarettes?

00:45:18.000 No, I think it's like, you know, you need to put it in the Epsom salt and the green liquid.

00:45:26.000 I don't even know what that is.

00:45:27.000 So it's Epsom salt, but it's green?

00:45:28.000 Yeah, I think it's menthol.

00:45:30.000 I have no idea.

00:45:31.000 I should probably pay attention to that.

00:45:32.000 Who knows?

00:45:33.000 It actually helps with people cutting weight too, but it actually opens it up and gets everything out.

00:45:38.000 I do that once or twice a week.

00:45:40.000 I want to start doing that here soon, once or twice a week.

00:45:44.000 Proteins, amino acids, all this stuff you're supposed to.

00:45:47.000 I go to a chiropractor a couple times a week.

00:45:50.000 They also include massages, so I can get a 20 minute massage after.

00:45:55.000 Yeah, I think massage is super beneficial.

00:45:57.000 I think the more people do that, the better.

00:45:59.000 I think especially for fighters, you're constantly dealing with knots and things that could eventually become real injuries.

00:46:05.000 Yeah, I remember when I was supposed to play Ben Rothwell, and I pulled out a flight.

00:46:09.000 It was the worst time of my life.

00:46:10.000 I never pulled out a flight before.

00:46:11.000 I didn't know what to do.

00:46:12.000 I really couldn't bend over.

00:46:14.000 I'll never forget, I dropped my wallet.

00:46:17.000 I was like...

00:46:19.000 What happened? 0.80

00:46:19.000 Just my back, it was so screwed up. 0.80

00:46:21.000 Like, I was driving.

00:46:22.000 I couldn't even sit up straight.

00:46:26.000 It was so bad.

00:46:27.000 My back was so messed up.

00:46:28.000 Did you get an MRI? Yeah, so my lower...

00:46:32.000 Sorry.

00:46:33.000 My...

00:46:34.000 What was it?

00:46:35.000 My L4? Lumbar.

00:46:38.000 Yeah, lumbar. 0.99

00:46:39.000 They were just screwed up. 0.91

00:46:40.000 They're herniated, bulging out, whatever you want to call them. 0.96

00:46:43.000 And so I went and talked to Tom from Westside.

00:46:47.000 You know, Irish guy?

00:46:48.000 Yeah.

00:46:49.000 Greek, English guy, whatever.

00:46:50.000 He was like, hey man, check out his psoas.

00:46:53.000 The psoas muscle.

00:46:54.000 You know what the psoas muscle is?

00:46:56.000 No.

00:46:56.000 So it's a muscle that's connected inside your thigh, inside your bone, and it goes over your hip bone, and it goes to your lower back.

00:47:04.000 Okay. 1.00

00:47:04.000 So I was sitting there, and I was like, take your shit, and I'm like, ugh! 1.00

00:47:08.000 I could feel like my spine would kill, so I started stretching it out. 0.99

00:47:14.000 And so I get massaged, and the massage girl's like, she's like, I'm not gonna lie.

00:47:18.000 She's like, you touching your psoas muscle, because you have to dig and get to it, because you just can't find it.

00:47:23.000 It was like a rubber band with like bumps on it.

00:47:25.000 It was disgusting.

00:47:27.000 She's like, it was a dance.

00:47:28.000 So I go to West Island, a guy named John Quint, who is a release therapist, whatever, big dude, awesome dude.

00:47:35.000 He actually saved my career.

00:47:35.000 He started working my psoas and started stretching me out.

00:47:38.000 I mean, now I can do head kicks now.

00:47:40.000 I'd never be able to do a head kick.

00:47:42.000 So it was like a muscle that just was broken down, and it wasn't getting enough recovery?

00:47:46.000 I think it was from wrestling, from being, you know, and then just being tight all the time, and then hurting my back when I was a little kid.

00:47:51.000 You know, not a little kid, when I was 18, I hurt my back.

00:47:53.000 And then he just carried on.

00:47:55.000 You ever do yoga?

00:47:56.000 I did.

00:47:58.000 It's tough for me.

00:48:01.000 I'm not going to lie.

00:48:02.000 Of course it is.

00:48:03.000 That's why it's supposed to be good for you, because it's hard to do.

00:48:05.000 I probably should do it.

00:48:07.000 It's just tough.

00:48:08.000 I remember, I forget, when I was training in the gym before I started doing mixed martial arts, I was doing a yoga class, and I was trying to do it, and this lady's like, you're just too big. 0.95

00:48:15.000 She literally told me that.

00:48:16.000 I was like, you're a terrible instructor.

00:48:18.000 How do you want me to come back?

00:48:19.000 Like, what?

00:48:20.000 You're just too big.

00:48:21.000 She's like, you're just too big.

00:48:22.000 Your muscles are too big.

00:48:23.000 That's what she told me.

00:48:24.000 The yoga instructor told you that?

00:48:26.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:48:26.000 She's ridiculous. 1.00

00:48:27.000 I was so devastated. 1.00

00:48:28.000 I just walked out.

00:48:29.000 I didn't know what to do. 1.00

00:48:30.000 I was like, this is stupid. 1.00

00:48:31.000 Yeah, that's ridiculous. 1.00

00:48:32.000 I probably lost my mojo after that. 0.97

00:48:34.000 No, no, no.

00:48:35.000 You've got to get back in there.

00:48:36.000 I would just think that for anyone that's involved in anything that's as brutal as MMA, that yoga is a great sort of balancing thing for that.

00:48:47.000 It keeps you flexible.

00:48:48.000 It keeps your core strong.

00:48:50.000 It does a lot of...

00:48:53.000 Develop, like, weird strength.

00:48:54.000 Strengthen, like, it helps the joints, it helps, like, a lot of the connecting tissues, helps stabilize everything.

00:49:00.000 Yeah, yeah, I believe it.

00:49:01.000 Plus, isn't it real good with your mind and stuff like that?

00:49:03.000 Sure.

00:49:03.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:49:04.000 I mean, I've done it, like, once or twice.

00:49:07.000 I get toes in the legs, like, your muscles.

00:49:08.000 Like, when I read about it and when I've seen about it, it looks pretty good.

00:49:11.000 Yeah, I like that post on Instagram that I put up last night.

00:49:14.000 Yeah, I saw it.

00:49:16.000 Pull this up.

00:49:17.000 This is from Jiu Jitsu Brotherhood.

00:49:22.000 Got it?

00:49:24.000 What's up?

00:49:27.000 Yoga is a martial art you do against yourself.

00:49:31.000 How do you say Nick's last name?

00:49:33.000 Gregoriadis?

00:49:37.000 Gregoriadis.

00:49:38.000 Nick Gregoriadis.

00:49:39.000 Anyway, real good jiu-jitsu guy.

00:49:41.000 He was the guy that was in London Real, right?

00:49:43.000 Wasn't he?

00:49:46.000 Use that little fancy Google machine.

00:49:49.000 I'm pretty sure that's Nick.

00:49:51.000 He was in the early London Real.

00:49:54.000 He did our podcast.

00:49:55.000 Yeah, he did the podcast a long time ago, but that's a great quote, that yoga is a martial art you do against yourself.

00:50:02.000 How long have you been doing it for?

00:50:04.000 Real serious for like two years, two and a half years.

00:50:08.000 Before that, I would do it like once a month or once every now and then, but now I do it pretty regularly.

00:50:13.000 We did the Sober October thing.

00:50:16.000 No booze, no pot, 15 hot yoga classes a month. 0.99

00:50:19.000 It's fucking life-changing, man. 0.99

00:50:22.000 Yeah? 0.99

00:50:22.000 Yeah, I haven't done yoga since. 0.99

00:50:24.000 It changed my life. 0.78

00:50:26.000 I really haven't, but I need to because I fucking tweaked my back yesterday doing something.

00:50:32.000 Do you have a chiropractor? 0.63

00:50:33.000 No.

00:50:34.000 Yeah, I don't believe in them.

00:50:35.000 Really?

00:50:35.000 Yeah, no, I don't.

00:50:36.000 I'm sure you do.

00:50:37.000 So good.

00:50:38.000 I think massage is good, but do you know how chiropractic was founded?

00:50:42.000 Do you know where it came from?

00:50:43.000 It came from a scam artist.

00:50:45.000 A guy was a magnetic healer.

00:50:47.000 And it came to him in a seance that he could cure all ailments if you manipulate people's spines.

00:50:53.000 And then he was killed by his own son, who was also a scam artist. 0.99

00:50:57.000 His own son ran over him with a fucking car and then took over the business. 1.00

00:51:01.000 I'm sold. 1.00

00:51:02.000 I'm in.

00:51:04.000 People claim all sorts of benefits for all sorts of things, but there's no scientific evidence that manipulating your spine does anything.

00:51:12.000 The only thing that it does show is that if you can manipulate lower backs, sometimes with some people you can relieve some of the pain.

00:51:18.000 But I think a lot of that is just massaging them.

00:51:21.000 A lot of that is just manipulating them, just rubbing into them, giving them some sort of relief and adjusting them.

00:51:26.000 But the neck is very dangerous.

00:51:29.000 You know, people want to get their neck adjusted and feel that pop.

00:51:32.000 It feels good, right?

00:51:33.000 But literally people have gotten strokes from that.

00:51:36.000 Oh.

00:51:37.000 Yeah.

00:51:38.000 Well, I just, you know, I read a little study on it that said, like, you know, they did, like, you know, adjusting, you know, twice a week.

00:51:44.000 And kids, like, reaction, like, since sports were quicker just because everything was, like, lined up perfectly.

00:51:51.000 Yeah, I don't think that's real.

00:51:53.000 Yeah.

00:51:54.000 I feel like it is, though.

00:51:55.000 I'm sure you do.

00:51:56.000 I'm just sure.

00:51:57.000 I just don't think your body is manipulated that way.

00:52:02.000 I think that what's happening is you're putting attention on your body, you're thinking about recovery more, you're getting adjusted, and while you're getting adjusted, you're getting massaged.

00:52:10.000 When I used to get adjusted, the best part of it was what you said, the massage.

00:52:14.000 That was the best part.

00:52:15.000 I'd get a massage, and then I'd get adjusted, and it felt good.

00:52:17.000 Everything loosened up.

00:52:19.000 But when I talk to guys that are actual orthopedic surgeons and real doctors, like spinal doctors, and they talk about it, they're like, you're just making a pop.

00:52:29.000 It's not real. 0.93

00:52:31.000 Your body would be so fucked up if you could manipulate it one way or another, and that's how you fix things. 0.99

00:52:36.000 It's like, that's not how you fix things. 1.00

00:52:37.000 If you've got an injury, there's a whole bunch of shit going on.

00:52:41.000 If you have some sort of a muscle pull or a back injury, I soured on it when I had a bulging disc. 0.96

00:52:46.000 And the reason why was because this guy was convinced that I didn't have a bulging disc and I didn't get an MRI and I was just going to a chiropractor and he was like pushing down on my head.

00:52:53.000 I had a, in my cervical, in my neck, it was a, my hands were going numb from jujitsu.

00:52:59.000 Yeah.

00:52:59.000 And this guy was trying to tell me, just keep coming to the car, you'll get adjusted, it'll be fine.

00:53:04.000 And then I finally went to a real doctor, and they gave me an MRI, and they're like, no, this is why you're in pain.

00:53:09.000 Your disc is bulging out, and it's pressing against your nerve, and it's called the ulnar nerve, and that's why your hand is going numb.

00:53:15.000 We're going to give you spinal decompression, and you should try to look into some things that are going to reduce inflammation.

00:53:20.000 They changed my diet, and I started getting something called Regenikine. 0.99

00:53:25.000 Which is like platelet-rich plasma when you take your blood they spin it to heat it up and in the heating up the blood it produces this radical anti-inflammatory process and They then inject that your own blood back into the injuries and just fixed it over like the court a period of like two or three months Then I got another MRI and it went away so I think a lot of that shit is just fucking voodoo to It's just nonsense. 0.90

00:53:53.000 And you think it's working, or you're thinking about it, or you're giving yourself time to rest while you're getting all those adjustments, so you think that the adjustments are what's doing it. 0.96

00:54:03.000 But obviously there's a lot of people that are chiropractors that are very skillful in all sorts of different methods of recovery, like electrical muscular stimulation, massage.

00:54:12.000 There's a bunch of different things.

00:54:13.000 Even traction.

00:54:14.000 I don't know enough about acupuncture.

00:54:16.000 Yeah, me neither.

00:54:17.000 I never got it done, but I was like, eh. 0.94

00:54:20.000 It seems to me like horseshit. 0.67

00:54:23.000 If I had a guess. 0.97

00:54:25.000 But I don't know.

00:54:26.000 I mean, maybe there's some method to it.

00:54:28.000 I mean, I think that massage works. 0.52

00:54:31.000 That definitely works. 0.73

00:54:32.000 Like, if I get a good massage and I have, like, something that's tight and, you know, like, your neck is fucked up from not tapping or something like that and then you go get it massaged out, like, you can fix that. 0.50

00:54:43.000 Like, that actually can provide you some relief. 0.99

00:54:46.000 And I'm sure that if you go to a good one of those people that does cupping like people apparently swear by that shit, you know? 0.99

00:54:53.000 What is cupping by the way? 0.99

00:54:54.000 I've seen it like sucks on the bag and all these terrible marks on your body.

00:54:58.000 I think that's half of it.

00:55:00.000 Half of it is like the marks in your body make you think like you're getting something done, but you they take this cup and it sucks all your your skin up into the cup and How does that I don't know how it works. 1.00

00:55:12.000 Look at this asshole. 1.00

00:55:14.000 That guy looks like he has the worst disease known to man. 1.00

00:55:17.000 Imagine if that was just like what happened to your skin. 0.76

00:55:19.000 You got like some porcupine disease.

00:55:21.000 Or a nipple disease.

00:55:22.000 Yeah.

00:55:23.000 I guess like they have a vacuum thing and it attaches to the top and it pulls.

00:55:27.000 Look at that.

00:55:28.000 How is that like...

00:55:30.000 Yeah, Olympic cupping, a practice rooted in ancient Islam. 1.00

00:55:34.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

00:55:36.000 Hmm, interesting. 1.00

00:55:37.000 Yeah, I mean, look, these fucking people are world-class athletes at the top of their game. 0.99

00:55:43.000 Is cupping therapy... 0.99

00:55:44.000 Okay, how about Google, does cupping work?

00:55:47.000 Does cupping therapy work? 1.00

00:55:48.000 There's probably some weird sexual shit called cupping, too. 0.99

00:55:51.000 You gotta be real careful. 0.99

00:55:52.000 Careful what you pull up.

00:55:53.000 How does cupping work?

00:55:56.000 It's dry cupping.

00:55:58.000 Yeah, how does it work?

00:55:59.000 The glass cup is warmed by burning an alcohol-soaked cotton ball inside of it.

00:56:04.000 They're making a bomb.

00:56:05.000 This removes the oxygen in the cup, which creates a vacuum.

00:56:11.000 The cup is turned upside down and placed on the patient's back, the vacuum created by the lack of oxygen.

00:56:16.000 Well, that's this kind of cupping, but the other one seemed to have like a stem on the top of it where a vacuum thing pulls in.

00:56:23.000 But what is it supposed to do?

00:56:24.000 Facts.

00:56:25.000 How do you feel about ice, though?

00:56:27.000 I think that's very important.

00:56:29.000 Drawing up the skin.

00:56:30.000 Scroll over towards the right so I can see that.

00:56:33.000 Drawing up the skin in the cup is believed to open the skin's pores, which helps to stimulate the blood flow, balances and realigns the flow of... 0.99

00:56:40.000 Okay, you fucked me with this chi. 0.99

00:56:43.000 QI. Realigns the flow of QI. Oh, you got any peer-reviewed studies on that QI, you fucking dipshits? 1.00

00:56:51.000 Breaking up obstructions creates an avenue for toxins to be drawn out of the body. 1.00

00:56:55.000 Again, as soon as assholes start talking about toxins, oh, I'm just cleansing, I'm on a deep cleanse, getting the toxins out of my body. 0.98

00:57:03.000 So nice, it's so nice. 1.00

00:57:04.000 It's just bullshit talk. 0.98

00:57:06.000 That whole toxins talk is, I'm pulling toxins out of my body. 1.00

00:57:09.000 The fuck you are! 1.00

00:57:10.000 No, you know what pulls toxins out of your body? 1.00

00:57:12.000 Your liver, you dumb cunt. 1.00

00:57:14.000 That's what your liver's for. 1.00

00:57:16.000 It gets the toxins out.

00:57:17.000 You're not pulling them out with a cup.

00:57:19.000 For me, it's a sauna after I've been drinking all day.

00:57:21.000 Sweat.

00:57:22.000 Yeah, your sweat does.

00:57:24.000 It'll at least filter out some of that water.

00:57:27.000 The ionic foot spa thing.

00:57:30.000 Oh, that's the worst!

00:57:31.000 Where the water turns black and they try to pretend that it's like toxins coming out of you.

00:57:36.000 But meanwhile, it's just a reaction.

00:57:38.000 It's a chemical reaction.

00:57:40.000 Yeah, you ever seen that?

00:57:41.000 No.

00:57:42.000 Yeah, they have this thing, it's plugged in, and your foot sits in it, and there's some sort of reaction with the water in your feet, and it turns black, and they try to tell you, oh, the toxins are coming out of your body.

00:57:54.000 And then you walk out of there, I feel amazing, now I need a colonic.

00:57:58.000 No.

00:57:59.000 This is not real, ladies and gentlemen.

00:58:01.000 What is that?

00:58:02.000 What are they doing?

00:58:03.000 What is the exact reaction?

00:58:05.000 There's lots of videos you can look up where people do the exact process without putting anything in there, and the water still turns black.

00:58:11.000 I think it's something to do with battery acid or...

00:58:14.000 I don't know.

00:58:14.000 Honestly, that might not be it, but it's something weird.

00:58:16.000 It's bullshit. 0.98

00:58:17.000 See, people want to get healed. 1.00

00:58:19.000 You get hurt.

00:58:20.000 You want to get healed.

00:58:21.000 You want to believe anything.

00:58:22.000 Yeah.

00:58:23.000 Well, you ever heard of Reiki healers?

00:58:25.000 No, that's rolfing.

00:58:28.000 That's real.

00:58:28.000 That's legit.

00:58:29.000 That's like fascia manipulation.

00:58:31.000 Reiki is like they rub their hands and they just...

00:58:33.000 Pass them over your body, and they heal you.

00:58:36.000 We had this one video that we were watching. 0.99

00:58:38.000 This one lady was just rubbing her hand above this lady's vagina, just like above it. 1.00

00:58:42.000 Like, what is going on there? 0.99

00:58:44.000 What kind of sorcery are you using? 0.97

00:58:47.000 What are you trying to exercise from this lady's body? 1.00

00:58:52.000 Next thing you know, she's the number one porno star in America. 1.00

00:58:56.000 Look, I did it with my hands, my healing, my Reiki healing.

00:59:00.000 I met a dude last night that was a psychic healer.

00:59:02.000 Told me he was a psychic healer.

00:59:03.000 I go, good luck with that.

00:59:05.000 That's not real. 1.00

00:59:06.000 You fuck. 1.00

00:59:08.000 Psychic healer. 1.00

00:59:10.000 The reason I ask about icing is because I know there's some people that don't like icing.

00:59:13.000 They like doing that like that.

00:59:15.000 The insulin injury gets hurt.

00:59:16.000 Unless it's needed, but say you sprain your ankle and you kind of just start moving it right away and get the blood flow back in there without...

00:59:22.000 Yeah.

00:59:23.000 There's some evidence that...

00:59:26.000 Well, I think it depends entirely upon the injury, but if you look at the vast majority of scientists and sports medicine therapists and the people that are at the cutting edge of the business, they almost all use ice.

00:59:40.000 Yeah.

00:59:41.000 They don't think that you...

00:59:42.000 You're not supposed to use ice within...

00:59:45.000 What was it?

00:59:46.000 Who was it on the podcast?

00:59:47.000 Was it Andy Galpin?

00:59:49.000 Who was it that was talking about the time frame between icing and exercise where you need to...

00:59:56.000 It might have been Rhonda Patrick. 0.99

00:59:57.000 There's a beneficial amount of time you should wait before you ice after an exercise.

01:00:02.000 Like that you give yourself...

01:00:05.000 A chance for more recovery and more growth if you wait a while before icing.

01:00:11.000 Say if you had a hard training session, you wouldn't want to go right to cryotherapy.

01:00:15.000 You might want to wait an hour and a half, two hours, and then go.

01:00:18.000 And then you'll get the benefits of the hard training, but then you also get the anti-inflammatory benefits of cryo.

01:00:24.000 When I did cryo, the first time a couple times I did it, I was like, this is... 0.93

01:00:28.000 This sucks. 0.82

01:00:29.000 I wasted a bunch of money. 0.99

01:00:30.000 I just hated it.

01:00:32.000 And this is another place, plus also it's free, which is nice.

01:00:36.000 Free is nice.

01:00:37.000 And the guy's like, hey man, come out.

01:00:39.000 So I checked it out.

01:00:40.000 And man, I got done with that one.

01:00:43.000 I felt coldness coming in my whole body.

01:00:46.000 So it was a better place?

01:00:46.000 You went to a better place?

01:00:47.000 I think it was, because I definitely felt a difference.

01:00:50.000 How long are you in town for?

01:00:51.000 I'm leaving tomorrow.

01:00:52.000 Tim, I want to take you to the place out here.

01:00:54.000 The cryotherapy, cryo-healthcare out here, they have a very unique system.

01:00:58.000 Their system is...

01:01:00.000 First of all, the guys that developed it, what they did was instead of having it where you're breathing in liquid nitrogen, you know, like where it's from the neck down, which is a lot of those places, you go into it and you're breathing air and you have to have your head above... 0.95

01:01:13.000 Where the cryo is, because you can't breathe that shit in, which is how that girl in Vegas died, folks.

01:01:18.000 If you don't know, there's a girl in Vegas that went in the tank by herself, and she was too short, and she was breathing in the nitrogen, and she passed out, and then she froze to death. 0.98

01:01:29.000 But the ones at cryo healthcare, that's the normal one.

01:01:32.000 That's like Floyd Mayweather in there right there, where you see the cryo stuff is all below his head.

01:01:39.000 The ones at Cryo Healthcare, they jack the temperature way down, like 240 degrees below zero.

01:01:45.000 And what they do is they freeze the air itself.

01:01:48.000 So the air they're pumping into is super cold air.

01:01:51.000 So you go in there with full...

01:01:55.000 Like, you're breathing in this cold air.

01:01:58.000 It's on your head.

01:01:59.000 Your full body is immersed in this cold air.

01:02:02.000 So it's way more intense.

01:02:04.000 And it's supposed to have way more benefit because your head gets cold too.

01:02:08.000 So the reaction that your body has for producing cytokines and anti-inflammatory cold shock proteins, your body freaks out way more when everything is covered.

01:02:18.000 Not just from the neck down, but your head too.

01:02:21.000 Yeah, I wish you were in town.

01:02:22.000 I'll take you there.

01:02:22.000 Yeah, that's pretty sweet.

01:02:23.000 What do you got after this?

01:02:24.000 You got some other duties?

01:02:26.000 Yeah, I do.

01:02:27.000 What do you have to do?

01:02:28.000 Other UFC stuff?

01:02:30.000 No, not even UFC. Yeah, kind of, kind of not.

01:02:32.000 It's like my stuff.

01:02:32.000 I don't know.

01:02:33.000 I didn't want to go, but I had to go.

01:02:35.000 You're like a big kid. 1.00

01:02:37.000 Oh, it sucks. 1.00

01:02:38.000 My wife's like, "Just go!" And I put up a little fight. 1.00

01:02:41.000 That's funny.

01:02:42.000 I read every whole night now, I'm just training to go home. 0.98

01:02:44.000 When you have a big fight, how much of the big fight is, like, how much of the pain in the ass is doing press? 0.99

01:02:51.000 Uh-huh. 0.96

01:02:52.000 I don't want to say you're complaining about it, but I mean, as far as time constraints. 0.97

01:02:57.000 Yeah, sometimes it sucks. 0.91

01:02:59.000 It does suck, because when you're sitting there, you're thinking about doing this, and they'll call you like, hey! 0.98

01:03:04.000 Right. 0.68

01:03:05.000 You know, but I understand it's part of the game and it helps, you know, promote you and, you know, your sales and, you know, pay-per-views and all that stuff like that.

01:03:12.000 It does, but there's like a balance to be achieved, right?

01:03:14.000 That was Conor McGregor's argument.

01:03:16.000 Conor McGregor's argument was when he went on that world tour with Aldo, he's like, they just did way too much.

01:03:22.000 He's like, by the time you're doing all this, you don't have time to train.

01:03:26.000 He goes, there's no way you're going to train, recover, sleep correctly.

01:03:29.000 You're flying from one city to another country to another country, and you're just constantly on a jet.

01:03:35.000 Yeah, that was like, I mean, yeah, when I went to Australia, I mean, I flew to Australia when I found Mark Hunt.

01:03:41.000 And I remember I flew more than I actually was there in Australia.

01:03:44.000 Wow.

01:03:45.000 I was there for like a day and a half and I flew back home.

01:03:47.000 That's crazy.

01:03:48.000 Yeah, it was bad.

01:03:49.000 So the flight is more, more time.

01:03:51.000 I think it was like a 20 hour flight there and 20 hour flight. 0.99

01:03:55.000 That flight sucks plates of dicks. 1.00

01:03:58.000 That flight is, you get out of there and you're just half a person. 1.00

01:04:01.000 You're like confused and like, something happens to you when you're flying.

01:04:05.000 16, 17 hours on a plane.

01:04:07.000 I was there after the flight.

01:04:09.000 So I got there a week early before the flight.

01:04:10.000 I stayed for the week of the flight and I was there like three or four more days later.

01:04:13.000 So I was there for three and a half, two and a half, two and a half, three weeks.

01:04:17.000 And I got home and it was crazy.

01:04:19.000 So I get home at like 7 in the morning.

01:04:22.000 My brother's at my house, me and my wife come home, and I'm trying to keep my eyes open.

01:04:28.000 It was so miscombobulated.

01:04:30.000 So I get in the car, I almost forgot how to drive, because I was on the other side.

01:04:34.000 I'm with my brother, I'm like, you should probably drive, because I have not been on this side of the road in a long time.

01:04:38.000 Were you driving in Australia?

01:04:39.000 No, no.

01:04:40.000 Just being there?

01:04:41.000 Yeah, I was just sitting on the opposite side.

01:04:42.000 It was just so weird.

01:04:43.000 Everything was so awkward.

01:04:44.000 I mean, it was crazy.

01:04:45.000 I went for a run, and there was freaking parrots, and like... 0.99

01:04:48.000 Kangaroos and shit. 0.99

01:04:50.000 It's like our seagulls and crows. 0.99

01:04:53.000 I'm running, there's rainbows, toucan sand next to me.

01:04:56.000 Yeah, Australia's a weird place, man.

01:04:58.000 Yeah, it was crazy, but my time clock was screwed up.

01:05:00.000 I went to work a couple days later, and four days later, I was still messed up.

01:05:06.000 It was bad. 0.99

01:05:07.000 Yeah, it could fuck you up for a week or two. 0.98

01:05:09.000 But, you know, it's worth it just to go to Australia. 0.95

01:05:13.000 Amazing.

01:05:14.000 It's a great place.

01:05:14.000 Yeah, I have a bunch of family there.

01:05:15.000 When you have a big fight with a guy like, say, Mark Hunt, where you know it could be a brawl, and that turned out to be a five-round fight, right?

01:05:21.000 Was it?

01:05:23.000 Yeah, four and a half.

01:05:24.000 Yeah, you stopped him in the fifth?

01:05:25.000 Yep.

01:05:26.000 When you have a fight like that, and you know you're in there for the long haul, do you plan on, like, staying for days after the fight to recover?

01:05:35.000 Yeah.

01:05:36.000 No.

01:05:37.000 I actually wanted to get home, but I was a bad boy.

01:05:40.000 So they wanted me to do a couple like...

01:05:42.000 Promotional things?

01:05:43.000 Yeah.

01:05:43.000 So I was like, I went out here.

01:05:44.000 Because I got to see my family.

01:05:45.000 So I have family.

01:05:46.000 I live in Melbourne and Sydney.

01:05:48.000 Oh, you have family out there?

01:05:49.000 Oh, no kidding.

01:05:49.000 Yeah, so we had to hang out with them for a little bit.

01:05:51.000 It was cool.

01:05:51.000 Did you see that video that they posted yesterday of these guys in Australia with a 39-foot boat and a shark swam by it that was 20 feet long?

01:06:00.000 You see that video? 0.99

01:06:01.000 It's a fucking insane video. 1.00

01:06:03.000 Because the shark is almost as big as the goddamn boat. 1.00

01:06:07.000 They have this 39-foot boat and they have an overhead, like a drone footage of the shark swimming around the boat. 0.99

01:06:13.000 And I'm like, Jesus Christ.

01:06:16.000 I definitely shit my pants in that moment. 0.95

01:06:17.000 There's not much you can do.

01:06:19.000 I mean, you don't have a whole lot of options.

01:06:22.000 Wow, that's like...

01:06:23.000 20 foot shark.

01:06:24.000 That's crazy. 1.00

01:06:24.000 Fuck all that. 1.00

01:06:25.000 And Australia has a ton of those. 1.00

01:06:27.000 They're all over the place.

01:06:28.000 Yeah, I mean, I was talking about...

01:06:30.000 This happens a lot, apparently.

01:06:31.000 Really?

01:06:32.000 I found an 18 foot shark next to a 21 foot boat. 1.00

01:06:37.000 Fuck that! 1.00

01:06:38.000 Oh my god. 1.00

01:06:39.000 You ever see those whales and stuff that sprout up?

01:06:42.000 Yeah.

01:06:43.000 Right next to the boat.

01:06:44.000 Yeah.

01:06:45.000 What is this one, Jamie?

01:06:45.000 It's the 18-foot shirt next to the 21-foot boat.

01:06:48.000 Oh my god, that thing is big.

01:06:49.000 See how big the boat is.

01:06:51.000 Jesus Christ!

01:06:52.000 It's huge.

01:06:54.000 And it's just swimming next to the boat going, can I eat you?

01:06:56.000 Hmm, how do I eat you?

01:06:58.000 Hmm, not sure if I can eat you. 0.99

01:07:01.000 Goddamn, kid, get back! 0.99

01:07:02.000 Get back! 1.00

01:07:03.000 That was your son? 1.00

01:07:04.000 Get back, you little fuck! 1.00

01:07:05.000 Sit down! 1.00

01:07:07.000 Jesus Christ, it's a shark.

01:07:11.000 Yeah.

01:07:12.000 Did you see the video of the guy who was diving?

01:07:14.000 The real recent video?

01:07:15.000 The shark came over and thumped the back of his head.

01:07:19.000 Did you see that one guy who was fishing?

01:07:21.000 It was an older video, but he was like this.

01:07:24.000 Old guy's like this in the seat.

01:07:26.000 He's like this, and the swordfish.

01:07:28.000 Half of it, yeah?

01:07:29.000 No, no, the whole thing jumped in.

01:07:31.000 It was just going crazy, and one guy jumped overboard because he didn't want to get sautéed by this thing, you know?

01:07:37.000 So the fish was trying to get away from a shark?

01:07:42.000 No, I think he just jumped in, yeah.

01:07:45.000 I saw that seal one time, he jumped in the boat, was trying to get away from a killer whale.

01:07:52.000 Yeah, dude, my oldest daughter, when she was 13, we went fishing.

01:07:57.000 And she was a vegetarian at the time.

01:07:58.000 She loves animals.

01:08:00.000 And I was like, you know, but she was eating fish.

01:08:03.000 I said, listen, let's just go fishing.

01:08:05.000 We'll catch a fish.

01:08:06.000 We'll cook it.

01:08:07.000 And you'll get, like, this sort of connection with your food.

01:08:09.000 What was this one?

01:08:10.000 She was in South Beach the other day.

01:08:12.000 Some guy just hanging around with a shark.

01:08:14.000 Probably 10 feet off the coast.

01:08:16.000 This guy's just trying to die.

01:08:18.000 What is he doing?

01:08:19.000 I don't know if he even saw it.

01:08:21.000 So anyway, I'm on this boat, and we catch a marlin within 10 minutes of the trip.

01:08:30.000 10 minutes in, we catch a marlin, which is crazy, right?

01:08:33.000 All of a sudden...

01:08:35.000 I'm pulling this thing in, and it's not a big Marlin.

01:08:38.000 It's probably like 80 pounds or something like that. 0.99

01:08:40.000 We get it into the boat, and they beat the fucking thing to death with clubs right in front of her, because that's what they do. 1.00

01:08:47.000 They pull it in, and then just fucking thump, thump, thump, and she's sitting there. 0.98

01:08:53.000 And then they put it on ice after that, and then when they put it on ice, it's still alive. 0.98

01:08:58.000 Every now and then, you'd hear...

01:09:01.000 His tail would be flapping out.

01:09:03.000 It would be spazzing.

01:09:04.000 It would come back to life and they'd thub it in the head again.

01:09:07.000 She was a vegetarian for another year after that.

01:09:10.000 Took a while.

01:09:11.000 Took a while to turn her back around.

01:09:14.000 My thought was like, we're going to go catch some mahi-mahi. 1.00

01:09:17.000 This is going to be great.

01:09:18.000 It's hard to catch a marlin.

01:09:19.000 You usually don't catch a marlin.

01:09:20.000 And we caught one within 10 minutes.

01:09:24.000 I mean, you were trying to be a good dad, and you're like, I'm going to take a fish, and then they'd just be the smash of the smile right in front of her.

01:09:32.000 It just was the total wrong experience.

01:09:34.000 Like, my youngest daughters, I took them fishing, and they caught little fish, and it was a great experience.

01:09:40.000 It was like what I was hoping for.

01:09:42.000 Like, they caught little fish, we brought them back to the restaurant, the restaurant cooked them, we were staying at a resort, and that was great.

01:09:48.000 It was like, whew, nobody got clubbed.

01:09:51.000 I was terrified the first time I took him. 0.99

01:09:53.000 I'm like, if you're fucking four and you watch a marlin get clubbed to death, you might not ever bounce back from that. 0.99

01:10:00.000 I don't know what I would do. 1.00

01:10:02.000 If I was a child and saw that, I'd probably be scarred for life. 1.00

01:10:08.000 I fucked up. 0.99

01:10:09.000 That's the only time I've ever caught a marlin, too. 0.99

01:10:11.000 I've gone ocean fishing a hundred times.

01:10:13.000 I've never caught a marlin.

01:10:14.000 I've never been ocean fishing.

01:10:16.000 Oh, it's the best.

01:10:16.000 Is it fun?

01:10:17.000 Yeah, man.

01:10:17.000 It's amazing.

01:10:18.000 Yeah.

01:10:18.000 The only thing that's kind of a bummer is a lot of times they just want to troll, right?

01:10:22.000 So they're just pulling the lines behind the boat.

01:10:24.000 So you're not really actively doing anything.

01:10:26.000 I like casting.

01:10:27.000 Yeah.

01:10:28.000 You know, like the best ocean fishing I've done is in Mexico for, I think they're either skipjack or amberjack tuna.

01:10:34.000 I forget what they're called.

01:10:35.000 But we would go and they would follow these seagulls and bait fish.

01:10:40.000 So like the bait fish would be frothing on the water because the tuna were underneath jacking them and then just cast into them and just, oh, it was amazing.

01:10:46.000 We're in Mexico.

01:10:47.000 It was outside of Cabo.

01:10:51.000 Oh, okay.

01:10:51.000 So it's like...

01:10:53.000 No, no.

01:10:55.000 It was outside Puerto Vallarta.

01:10:57.000 Yeah.

01:10:57.000 It was outside Puerto Vallarta, so I'm not sure what part of the ocean it was.

01:11:01.000 But it's great.

01:11:03.000 It's like when you eat a fish that you caught like an hour ago, you realize, like, wow, this tastes way better.

01:11:08.000 It's amazing.

01:11:09.000 The degrading of the...

01:11:11.000 It's kind of the opposite with meat.

01:11:14.000 Because with meat, you can eat a lot of meat fresh right after you kill it and it tastes really good, but much of the best cuts of meat that you get from a butcher or from a really good steak restaurant, they let it age.

01:11:28.000 And apparently they do that with tuna too.

01:11:30.000 Like when you get sushi, I didn't know that. 1.00

01:11:32.000 Yeah, they let that shit age. 0.99

01:11:34.000 I love sushi. 1.00

01:11:35.000 Do you fish?

01:11:37.000 I mean, I used to back in the day.

01:11:40.000 How do you have time?

01:11:41.000 Yeah, I'm kind of busy.

01:11:42.000 I have a little pond in my house, but I don't think...

01:11:44.000 You have a pond?

01:11:45.000 Yeah, it's not huge.

01:11:46.000 It's probably 20 yards by 20 yards.

01:11:48.000 Not big at all.

01:11:49.000 But we do have massive turtles.

01:11:52.000 In the pond?

01:11:53.000 Yeah, which I had no idea.

01:11:56.000 Actually, we made a bet, one of the UFC fights, and a bunch of my coaches were over, and I was lit up, having fun, and I never bet, and they're like, I bet you this person wins, so I was like, I'll take that bet.

01:12:05.000 What happens if you win?

01:12:07.000 I'm like, if the person that wins, you can do it, you want to pick whatever, so I win, I'm like, alright, you guys have to get in my little shuttle boat, and you have to go across the lake, and we did snowballs at you.

01:12:18.000 It was winter, middle of winter.

01:12:19.000 And they're like, no.

01:12:20.000 I'm like, 100%.

01:12:21.000 You're going to do it.

01:12:22.000 So they did it.

01:12:23.000 And the best part was half of it was covered in ice.

01:12:25.000 So they couldn't go anywhere. 0.97

01:12:26.000 And if it's compatible, it sucks. 0.71

01:12:27.000 So they're just sitting there. 0.98

01:12:28.000 And I'm drilling them.

01:12:30.000 So whatever.

01:12:31.000 And we do our thing.

01:12:32.000 And all of a sudden, months later, my wife's like, honey, she sends me a video of these massive snapping turtles. 1.00

01:12:38.000 They hate fucking each other. 1.00

01:12:40.000 Really? 1.00

01:12:41.000 I wonder if I can find it on my phone.

01:12:42.000 The one's like this.

01:12:43.000 And I'll get some bags.

01:12:45.000 And all of a sudden, the girl's like, ah.

01:12:46.000 I tried to break his face off. 1.00

01:12:48.000 I'm like, what the fuck is going on? 1.00

01:12:50.000 They both had to be that big. 0.99

01:12:52.000 They were massive.

01:12:53.000 And then I looked over and they had a bunch of babies.

01:12:55.000 And their necks are so long.

01:12:57.000 You have to grab them by the behind because they'll bite your hand off. 0.99

01:13:01.000 Yeah, so those just moved into your neighborhood?

01:13:03.000 Is that what happened?

01:13:04.000 Or were they always there?

01:13:05.000 Where I live, it's weird.

01:13:07.000 I have a private drive from my house.

01:13:09.000 You can't see my house off the driveway, so we have a little pond.

01:13:12.000 And so, yeah.

01:13:13.000 But were they there before?

01:13:14.000 Yeah, they've always been there.

01:13:15.000 They go back and forth.

01:13:16.000 There's a little pond next to us that connected where our driveway is.

01:13:18.000 Cook them up.

01:13:19.000 Turtle soup.

01:13:20.000 Must be half decent if you cook it right.

01:13:23.000 What is your diet like?

01:13:25.000 You know, usual.

01:13:26.000 Pizza, beer.

01:13:28.000 I frowned upon that.

01:13:30.000 I mean, I joked around about that, but we had Courtney DeWalter in. 1.00

01:13:33.000 She's the woman who won the Moab 240. Do you know what that is?

01:13:37.000 That chick is a fucking savage. 1.00

01:13:40.000 She beat every man, every person who entered that race by a marathon length. 1.00

01:13:46.000 240 miles, and she was ahead by more than 20 miles.

01:13:51.000 The second place person was more than 20 miles behind her when she won. 0.93

01:13:55.000 So it's like an ultramarathon?

01:13:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:58.000 Three days for some people.

01:14:00.000 But for her, I think she did it in two, right? 0.55

01:14:03.000 She's an animal. 1.00

01:14:04.000 She's a fucking animal. 1.00

01:14:05.000 Anyway, beer, nachos, candy. 1.00

01:14:08.000 That's what she eats. 0.92

01:14:10.000 Beer, nachos, and candy.

01:14:11.000 And we were like, what? 0.97

01:14:12.000 Like, I expected some sophisticated, ketogenic diet protocol where they're monitoring her fucking ketone levels and her blood and checking out all of her portions are mapped out. 1.00

01:14:23.000 It's like Ivan Drago running around. 0.98

01:14:25.000 When she was here, she just kept eating candy. 1.00

01:14:27.000 She was just eating candy, like M&Ms and shit. 1.00

01:14:31.000 I mean, I get Icon meals. 0.99

01:14:34.000 Yeah, those are great.

01:14:35.000 I love them.

01:14:36.000 That's right.

01:14:36.000 So you get a meal prep.

01:14:38.000 Yeah, so they send me a bunch of stuff.

01:14:39.000 It's good.

01:14:40.000 But I'm a heavyweight, so I don't go...

01:14:42.000 Right.

01:14:43.000 Some days I love pizza. 0.99

01:14:44.000 You can do whatever the fuck you want. 0.99

01:14:46.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.97

01:14:46.000 But I don't like... 0.97

01:14:47.000 Have you ever thought about trying to go to 205?

01:14:51.000 We thought about it, but it'd be really tough.

01:14:53.000 What do you weigh now?

01:14:54.000 240. Yeah, and you're not fat.

01:14:57.000 So even if you got super lean, you're probably looking at 225 and then a hard 20 cut.

01:15:02.000 Yeah, they're a 225 class all day.

01:15:04.000 Yeah.

01:15:05.000 Easy make there.

01:15:06.000 I think there should be one.

01:15:07.000 Me too.

01:15:08.000 I think there should be a lot more weight classes.

01:15:10.000 I really do.

01:15:10.000 And I know there's a resistance because they want to keep the sport pure.

01:15:13.000 They don't want it like boxing with a weight class every four pounds.

01:15:16.000 But I feel like if you look at guys, there's a lot of guys that I think are tweeners.

01:15:21.000 They're not quite...

01:15:22.000 Well, you're a heavyweight champ.

01:15:23.000 You can't say you're a tweener.

01:15:25.000 You're like, me?

01:15:26.000 But you can't say that because you're the champ.

01:15:28.000 But there's guys that, you know, like Diego Sanchez was always a good example.

01:15:32.000 He's a little bit too small to make 55. When he tried to make 45, it was a disaster.

01:15:38.000 But if there was a 65-pound weight class, I think that's perfect for him.

01:15:42.000 And there's a lot of guys that, like, 70 to 85, that's a big jump.

01:15:46.000 85 to 205, that's crazy.

01:15:48.000 That's about 20 pounds.

01:15:49.000 Yeah, I know.

01:15:50.000 Yeah, I mean, I think definitely a few more weight classes, not like every 2 pounds.

01:15:54.000 I think every 10 pounds.

01:15:55.000 Yeah, I think it'd be great, too.

01:15:56.000 I'd be on board for that.

01:15:58.000 I think that's the move.

01:15:59.000 Every 10 pounds, and then when you go 205, 205 to 225, 225 to...

01:16:04.000 It should be unlimited.

01:16:06.000 It shouldn't be 265. That seems silly to me.

01:16:08.000 Yeah.

01:16:09.000 But I think that, too, where those guys are unlimited, they won't last long.

01:16:12.000 They might not, but Ngannou's cutting weight to get to 265. He weighed 250 last fight, I thought.

01:16:18.000 No, no.

01:16:19.000 He weighed 260-something.

01:16:20.000 He weighed 263?

01:16:23.000 263 or 264?

01:16:25.000 Yeah, no, he's cutting weight.

01:16:27.000 Oh, cool.

01:16:27.000 Good for him.

01:16:29.000 Yeah, he's a big fellow.

01:16:31.000 But, obviously, there's pros and cons to being big, and the con is, if you're getting into the third, fourth, and fifth rounds, those big guys are not known for their endurance.

01:16:43.000 They say that the weight class...

01:16:44.000 There was always a thought in MMA, like when Cain Velasquez was on top, there was a thought that that might be the perfect size, like 240. Anything bigger than that, maybe it's just not worth it, because a 240-pound man could basically knock out anybody on the planet.

01:16:58.000 So the power's still there, but nobody had more endurance than Cain.

01:17:03.000 No, no, I think so.

01:17:04.000 I think being like 240, you know, you still got the cardio, you still got the strength, you still got the speed.

01:17:08.000 I mean, I love being where I'm at.

01:17:09.000 You know, I don't try to gain.

01:17:10.000 I mean, I'm not going to push more.

01:17:12.000 You ever thought about gaining or no?

01:17:14.000 No.

01:17:14.000 No, I mean, I've gained.

01:17:15.000 I remember after Mark Hunt, man, Mark Hunt, I kind of went on the deep end and just went on binge drinking and flying me, waiting for, like, living it out of my life.

01:17:22.000 And I actually stepped on a scale.

01:17:23.000 I was like, What'd you weigh?

01:17:26.000 259. Wow.

01:17:27.000 I never weighed in my life.

01:17:28.000 Did you take a picture like holding your gut?

01:17:30.000 No, I didn't actually, I looked exactly the same.

01:17:32.000 I just looked a little bit thicker.

01:17:33.000 Nothing like bad.

01:17:35.000 So it filled out good?

01:17:36.000 Yeah, it was a good, yeah. 1.00

01:17:37.000 I think I loved it in the ass too. 1.00

01:17:38.000 So if you were a chick, it would have been a good move. 1.00

01:17:40.000 Yeah, I would have been twerking all day.

01:17:44.000 Tony Ram, go back to the whole ultramarathon thing.

01:17:47.000 So I'm a weirdo, and so I found out about ultramarathons, so I go on Wikipedia and I start reading all about it.

01:17:53.000 They were talking about the top three guys.

01:17:56.000 They're crazy.

01:17:57.000 The first ever ultramarathon guy that did awesome was a cattle runner, cattle...

01:18:04.000 Guy, cattle farmer guy.

01:18:05.000 Cattle farmer?

01:18:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:18:06.000 So they run through the night.

01:18:08.000 Well, he didn't sleep at night, so he would just run and keep running.

01:18:10.000 He didn't run fast, but then they had another guy.

01:18:13.000 Oh, I saw that guy.

01:18:14.000 I saw a video about that guy.

01:18:16.000 And then there was another guy.

01:18:18.000 He was like 30 years old.

01:18:19.000 He had like epiphany.

01:18:20.000 He was drinking one night, and he just got sick of like...

01:18:23.000 He just wants to drink one night for his birthday party, put on his shoes and just start running.

01:18:26.000 Realize, you know, you can still run.

01:18:28.000 And he, like, tore it up again.

01:18:30.000 I don't know who the guy's name was.

01:18:31.000 He's, like, American.

01:18:31.000 And another guy, he was, like, at one point he was sleeping, running.

01:18:35.000 And, like, he's still, like...

01:18:37.000 While he was sleeping, he was running?

01:18:38.000 Yeah, he was, like...

01:18:39.000 Or while he was running, he was sleeping.

01:18:40.000 Yeah, I can't talk.

01:18:41.000 Give me a break.

01:18:42.000 But he's, like...

01:18:44.000 They watched him sleep while he was running.

01:18:47.000 I don't remember.

01:18:49.000 Snoring?

01:18:50.000 No, no.

01:18:50.000 I'm saying he was just running.

01:18:52.000 I don't know if he was snoring, but they had another time.

01:18:54.000 They were saying a story about how he twisted his ankle at the beginning of the race, and it was the size of a grapefruit.

01:18:59.000 He still destroyed everyone, waited at the finish line, high-fived everyone, and crossed the finish line.

01:19:04.000 Wow.

01:19:05.000 It's going to bother me.

01:19:06.000 I'm going to look it up.

01:19:08.000 I don't know.

01:19:10.000 Did you find it?

01:19:10.000 This is the one guy that got a Cliff Young shuffle.

01:19:13.000 Yeah, that's the cattle rancher guy.

01:19:16.000 So he kind of has a shuffle, and the idea was that that shuffle allowed him to save energy because he wasn't picking up his legs really high.

01:19:27.000 He's just kind of shuffling along.

01:19:30.000 Yeah, I remember this guy.

01:19:32.000 Yeah, look at him.

01:19:35.000 He competed without his false teeth because they rattled when he ran.

01:19:38.000 Jesus Christ.

01:19:39.000 He was 61 when he showed up and no one knew what he was doing.

01:19:43.000 They didn't know if he knew what he signed up for.

01:19:46.000 Wow.

01:19:47.000 Meanwhile, he won.

01:19:50.000 Well, the history is filled with guys like that.

01:19:53.000 It's like everybody thinks they know exactly how everything works until someone comes along that's a completely unique version.

01:20:00.000 No one has seen before, like that guy, doing his little shuffle.

01:20:03.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

01:20:04.000 Or like this Courtney DeWalter chick. 0.94

01:20:06.000 She just won, she just beat the world record for the most amount of hours a woman has ever run in 24 hours.

01:20:13.000 She's a freak. 1.00

01:20:14.000 And again, candy, drinking beer, nachos. 0.94

01:20:20.000 Watching those people run marathons, it's crazy.

01:20:22.000 I remember one year I had my one coach, he did security detail for the Cleveland Revco Marathon.

01:20:28.000 So I sat there, it was the worst day of my life though.

01:20:31.000 I literally sat in the van driving five miles per hour behind these people running.

01:20:34.000 So they fell off, I'd pick them up, take them to the finish line.

01:20:38.000 But it was just crazy watching. 0.96

01:20:40.000 They were so nuts. 0.80

01:20:41.000 I'm another one guy. 0.89

01:20:43.000 We stopped to check on him.

01:20:45.000 He's like, I got an IV on him and stuff like that.

01:20:49.000 He's like, yeah, I'll be fine.

01:20:51.000 He put an IV in him.

01:20:52.000 He went to go finish the race, right?

01:20:53.000 This guy's like dead almost.

01:20:54.000 Gets IV, comes back to life.

01:20:56.000 He's like, I got this.

01:20:57.000 Goes again, starts running again.

01:20:58.000 And I'll never forget, we're about to be done.

01:21:00.000 And I see the guy running.

01:21:01.000 He's about a hundred yards away and he starts like tripping and falling and he couldn't finish the race.

01:21:05.000 Wow, a hundred yards away?

01:21:07.000 Yeah, he's like literally a hundred yards away.

01:21:08.000 He couldn't finish.

01:21:09.000 I was like, oh, I felt so bad for that guy.

01:21:11.000 He was about to pass out the first time.

01:21:14.000 They put an IV. He felt gray.

01:21:15.000 He's like, I'm good.

01:21:16.000 Leave me alone.

01:21:17.000 Took off again, and then...

01:21:18.000 Endurance racing is a totally different kind of thing as far as the mindset.

01:21:23.000 If you think about a five-round heavyweight title fight is a grueling affair, right?

01:21:28.000 It's 25 minutes of throwing bones at the best fighters in the world, but it's still 25 minutes. 0.99

01:21:35.000 These motherfuckers, like this Courtney DeWalter chick, she's running for three days. 1.00

01:21:39.000 That's crazy. 1.00

01:21:40.000 What is this?

01:21:40.000 It was a Dallas Marathon.

01:21:41.000 This was a lady that was winning. 1.00

01:21:43.000 She got to the end and she just collapsed and this girl helped her.

01:21:47.000 She's like a high schooler.

01:21:48.000 She was running one of the shorter races and just saw her and was compelled to help her finish.

01:21:53.000 Did you still win the race?

01:21:55.000 I guess the lady said she was afraid she was going to get disqualified because someone was helping her, but she still won. 1.00

01:22:01.000 I would give that chick some of that money. 1.00

01:22:02.000 So someone's helping her.

01:22:04.000 That seems weird.

01:22:05.000 Sort of helping her.

01:22:06.000 You can kind of tell she doesn't really care.

01:22:07.000 Well, she's picking her up, though.

01:22:08.000 She's picking her up every time she falls. 0.76

01:22:11.000 I feel like that's cheating.

01:22:13.000 They might have had some rules.

01:22:14.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:22:16.000 Tell that bitch to give back her medal. 1.00

01:22:18.000 No. 1.00

01:22:18.000 Just kidding. 1.00

01:22:19.000 Just kidding.

01:22:20.000 That's what a courage, man.

01:22:22.000 Is that illegal?

01:22:25.000 I don't know.

01:22:25.000 They said in fights now, if you poop yourself, they stop the fight.

01:22:28.000 A lot of guys have shit themselves. 0.99

01:22:30.000 A lot of guys. 1.00

01:22:31.000 Famously. 0.97

01:22:33.000 I wrestled a guy in college one time that shit his pants. 0.93

01:22:35.000 I remember Michael Chiesa. 0.96

01:22:37.000 Who was he fighting?

01:22:38.000 Benil Dariush.

01:22:40.000 And right before the fight started, he leans over to the kid. 0.94

01:22:43.000 He goes, dude, I might shit myself during the fight. 0.64

01:22:46.000 I go, are you serious? 1.00

01:22:47.000 And he's like, I gotta shit so bad. 1.00

01:22:50.000 Are you serious? 0.99

01:22:51.000 And he wound up choking out Dariush.

01:22:53.000 Thank God.

01:22:54.000 And we were talking about it afterwards.

01:22:55.000 He goes, bro, he goes, something happened during the fight. 0.99

01:22:57.000 It went away, but I was convinced I was going to shit myself. 0.99

01:22:59.000 Really? 0.99

01:23:00.000 He goes, I just got out there and I was like, oh no.

01:23:02.000 That's the worst feeling.

01:23:03.000 I was a terrible feeling.

01:23:04.000 That had me like Arlowski.

01:23:05.000 My whole time, they're coming to get me.

01:23:07.000 And I'm like, you know what? 0.99

01:23:07.000 Let me just shit, make sure. 0.99

01:23:09.000 Thank God I shit. 1.00

01:23:10.000 Because whatever came out of me, it was like just disgusting diarrhea. 1.00

01:23:14.000 And I'm like, I get done.

01:23:16.000 I'm like, Imagine holding that in.

01:23:18.000 Oh yeah, but I didn't feel like I had to go, but I was like, you know, they just checked me on the safe side. 0.98

01:23:21.000 Man, thank God I fucking... 0.92

01:23:23.000 That was a big win for you too. 0.99

01:23:24.000 That was a good one.

01:23:25.000 Yeah, it was a big one.

01:23:27.000 Because it was like definitive.

01:23:28.000 It was like you were marching towards the title, and then when you blasted Orlovsky out, it was like, alright, this guy's the guy.

01:23:34.000 This is the next guy.

01:23:36.000 Well, it took a little longer than that, but...

01:23:38.000 Yeah, but I mean, you know what I'm saying? 0.99

01:23:39.000 Like, that was like the definitive, like, where you're like, I want my fucking shot. 0.99

01:23:42.000 Like, where's my fucking shot? 0.99

01:23:43.000 Like, right then and there, like, that was sort of one of those moments where, like, you gotta give this guy the shot. 1.00

01:23:48.000 Yeah, yeah, I know.

01:23:49.000 I appreciate it.

01:23:49.000 And you helped me out with that, too, so I appreciate that.

01:23:52.000 Oh, you know I'm a big fan.

01:23:53.000 No, I appreciate that, man.

01:23:54.000 And then the title fight, man. 0.98

01:23:55.000 Holy shit, that must have been amazing. 0.99

01:23:57.000 Knocking out Verdum in Brazil like that, with one punch. 1.00

01:24:02.000 Holy shit. 0.98

01:24:03.000 That was like one of the best title fight winning performances ever. 0.99

01:24:07.000 Yeah, it was a good night, man.

01:24:08.000 Yeah.

01:24:09.000 You know, I actually work on that a lot.

01:24:10.000 Step over, right across, and the guy chasing you down, just getting an angle.

01:24:13.000 You know, it was just, what a great night.

01:24:17.000 You know, I wouldn't be there without my coaches, honestly.

01:24:20.000 They're just great people.

01:24:21.000 Of course.

01:24:21.000 They're just, like, the reason I'm there is just because they put so much time and effort into me.

01:24:24.000 I've got to say it over and over again, but they're just amazing guys, and I'm very lucky to have them in my corner.

01:24:28.000 Well, they're very lucky to have you, too.

01:24:30.000 You know, it takes both.

01:24:31.000 You know, and you're right.

01:24:33.000 You know, you have a great relationship with your coaches, too, which is very important, I think.

01:24:37.000 Like, you were saying about having a great wife, having great friends, having a great support system, like, all that stuff, like, for your mind, for your mindset, it's great.

01:24:47.000 But having coaches that you have a great relationship with, that you really, you know they're looking out for you.

01:24:52.000 You know they're working hard for you.

01:24:53.000 You guys are in there together.

01:24:54.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:24:55.000 That's what I love about my head coach, Marcus.

01:24:57.000 I looked at him a long time ago and I was like, man, when's the age retired today?

01:25:00.000 He's like, pfft, more time to drink wine, bro.

01:25:03.000 You know what I mean?

01:25:04.000 That's what I love about him.

01:25:05.000 He's fine, yeah.

01:25:05.000 He's like, I don't care, dude.

01:25:06.000 You can do what you want.

01:25:07.000 I just joke around and see what he would say.

01:25:08.000 He's like, bro, he's like...

01:25:09.000 Whatever.

01:25:10.000 He's like, listen, I just want you to be happy.

01:25:13.000 That's the best kind of coach, man.

01:25:15.000 That's the best kind of coach.

01:25:16.000 The worst is the kind of coach that wants a guy to fight when you really know it's over.

01:25:21.000 When the guy really should be stepping away.

01:25:24.000 And then you see them trying to give the guy the pep talk.

01:25:26.000 You know the best days are in the past.

01:25:29.000 Yeah, that's why Mark is actually real good at that.

01:25:30.000 You know, we've had a couple guys that were like, you know, he's like, yeah, I ain't gonna be in your corner.

01:25:35.000 He's like, you should retire.

01:25:37.000 It's so hard.

01:25:38.000 It really killed him inside of telling that, but he's like, listen, no.

01:25:41.000 You know what?

01:25:42.000 This is an important point to talk about.

01:25:44.000 You remember that feeling that you felt like after this Drew fight?

01:25:47.000 It's like, you've got to kind of figure that out on your own and come back on your own.

01:25:52.000 Yeah.

01:25:52.000 Right?

01:25:52.000 Mm-hmm.

01:25:53.000 And some guys, they have that feeling and then they're never the same again.

01:25:59.000 They never reach those same, like you got better for sure.

01:26:03.000 You rose above that.

01:26:04.000 But some people are dwarfed by bad performances or bad knockout or whatever it is and they just never, they're never the same again.

01:26:12.000 Yeah, I mean, I just, I think it's, you know, just two different type of people.

01:26:15.000 Either they're going to go above and beyond, or they're not.

01:26:17.000 I mean, that's just how it is.

01:26:18.000 Yeah, but there's also stages in your life, too, right?

01:26:21.000 Where you just don't want to do it anymore.

01:26:22.000 Like, you see some guys who are, at one point in time, great, driven fighters, and then the grind just gets to them, you know?

01:26:29.000 Yeah, yeah, I mean, I totally understand it.

01:26:31.000 Like, I mean, I was just talking to who they're talking to about this.

01:26:34.000 Vlante.

01:26:35.000 Yeah, I've seen less.

01:26:37.000 I mean, I've had 11 UFC fights.

01:26:40.000 I think more than 11 of those have been five-rounders.

01:26:43.000 I've trained for five-rounders.

01:26:43.000 That's insane.

01:26:44.000 Yeah.

01:26:45.000 My third...

01:26:46.000 My fourth UFC fight was a five-rounder.

01:26:52.000 Even if they didn't go five rounds, you're still doing a camp for five rounds.

01:26:58.000 The Verdum fight was so crazy because I almost think you benefited from it being in Brazil because it seemed like Verdum was so emotional and so ramped up because it was in Brazil.

01:27:11.000 He's like chasing after you, which I was like, this is crazy.

01:27:15.000 Yeah, I think a little bit too is that we knew exactly what he was going to do.

01:27:17.000 He did everything he wanted to do and I just wasn't falling for anything he wanted.

01:27:21.000 He went for a fine knee, he went for a takedown, he went for a body kick.

01:27:25.000 I just wasn't giving him anything he wanted.

01:27:26.000 I think you realize that.

01:27:28.000 I wasn't going anywhere.

01:27:29.000 You also caught him before that big punch too.

01:27:31.000 Yeah.

01:27:32.000 When we watched the fight, we did a fight companion, we watched the fight.

01:27:35.000 You clipped him early and I was like, he's hurt.

01:27:37.000 You could tell there was something going on when he got hit.

01:27:41.000 And then he tried to get it back.

01:27:43.000 And when a guy gets hit and then just tries extra hard to get it back, a lot of times they're exposed and you just caught that right hand perfect.

01:27:50.000 Yeah, thank God.

01:27:52.000 I hope we wouldn't be here right now.

01:27:53.000 What was that feeling like, man?

01:27:56.000 Awesome.

01:27:57.000 So when I hit him, then he fell. 0.99

01:27:58.000 I was like, holy shit, he fell. 0.98

01:28:00.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

01:28:01.000 Because when was the last time he's been knocked out like that?

01:28:03.000 He was out.

01:28:05.000 Junior was the last time.

01:28:06.000 I was like, bro.

01:28:08.000 He's on a tear. 1.00

01:28:08.000 I'm like, holy shit. 1.00

01:28:09.000 So I gave him a couple extra ones. 0.99

01:28:12.000 And then, you know, I stopped the fight and I looked over and my coaches were like, oh hell yeah!

01:28:17.000 So I run over and I was like, no one heard us before that, but before I said I'm a world champ, I looked at my coaches and I'm like, we did it, we did it.

01:28:24.000 That's what I told them, we all did it.

01:28:26.000 Then I said I'm a world champ and I kind of went like Frank Tank and I blacked out and didn't remember what I said after that.

01:28:31.000 But, you know, it was awkward, too, because it was so quiet in there.

01:28:35.000 And all I hear was myself screaming.

01:28:37.000 Oh, it was amazing.

01:28:38.000 It was amazing.

01:28:39.000 We were clapping.

01:28:40.000 When you hopped over the octagon, and you're standing there, you're like, I'm the world champ!

01:28:45.000 I'm the world champ!

01:28:47.000 It was like setting in.

01:28:49.000 You could see it.

01:28:49.000 Those moments, man, those are some of my all-time favorite moments when a guy realizes the biggest dream, the biggest accomplishment of his career, thus far at least, and to see a guy like you win the title.

01:29:03.000 There's nothing like that, man.

01:29:05.000 There's nothing like that.

01:29:06.000 Yeah, it was just great.

01:29:08.000 It was 45,000.

01:29:10.000 We had about 15 people there.

01:29:11.000 Yeah.

01:29:12.000 45,000 people rooting for Fabrizio Verdun, by the way.

01:29:15.000 Actually, it was 44,985.

01:29:17.000 I had 15 there for me, so I forget.

01:29:19.000 And then, boom.

01:29:20.000 Yeah, actually, my brothers and my cousins, and they were all on the top row with my buddies, and when I knocked them out, they were all going, like, yeah!

01:29:27.000 They were going crazy, and actually, they were like...

01:29:29.000 Oh.

01:29:30.000 Yeah.

01:29:31.000 And the Brazilians are like, what's up, bro? 1.00

01:29:34.000 What's up?

01:29:35.000 They're like, we're sorry.

01:29:36.000 They're like, it's okay.

01:29:37.000 Congratulations.

01:29:38.000 They were really nice about it.

01:29:39.000 Oh, that's cool.

01:29:40.000 It must have been silent in there, though, when you dropped them.

01:29:43.000 Honestly, it was so awkward.

01:29:45.000 It was so awkward.

01:29:46.000 I remember hearing myself screaming, like, yay!

01:29:49.000 We got him, champ!

01:29:51.000 What was the crowd doing?

01:29:53.000 Nothing.

01:29:54.000 They were just quiet.

01:29:56.000 I remember hearing my wife screaming.

01:29:59.000 I heard her screaming, and that was about it.

01:30:01.000 Wow.

01:30:02.000 It was awkward.

01:30:04.000 Cleaning was a total 180. That was crazy, too.

01:30:09.000 I'm sure. 0.99

01:30:11.000 Being put on my ass and then getting up and went into zombie mode and didn't care after that. 1.00

01:30:15.000 Wow. 1.00

01:30:16.000 It's a crazy time for you, you know?

01:30:19.000 Yeah.

01:30:19.000 You're the UFC heavyweight champion of the world.

01:30:22.000 I mean, one day you're going to look back, you're going to be talking to your grandkids, and you're talking about the time, like now, when you're the fucking champ of the world. 0.99

01:30:29.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:30:30.000 That's pretty intense.

01:30:31.000 Yeah, I'm excited, man.

01:30:32.000 I just had something, you know, that, you know, I'm like, Be proud of my wife, my mom.

01:30:36.000 You know, he's like, hey, you know, my son actually did something with his life, you know?

01:30:40.000 Well, what I'm excited about, too, for you for this Ngannou fight is there's going to be a lot of people buying this on pay-per-view.

01:30:45.000 This is going to be a big fight.

01:30:47.000 You know, and these big fights, this is what makes, you know, a champion popular.

01:30:52.000 I mean, this is really...

01:30:52.000 This is...

01:30:53.000 I mean...

01:30:55.000 Historically, in boxing, the voice said, that the health of the heavyweight division just represents boxing overall.

01:31:01.000 I don't think that's the case anymore.

01:31:02.000 Because now in boxing, you've got all these lightweight guys like Gennady Golovkin, Canelo Alvarez, Lomachenko, all these big stars now that are emerging in a lighter weight division just because they're so skillful and talented.

01:31:14.000 Andre Ward...

01:31:15.000 But I think in the heavyweight division of the UFC, it's been a while since people were really pumped up about a big heavyweight title fight.

01:31:24.000 Yeah.

01:31:25.000 I'm excited, man.

01:31:26.000 Listen, he's a good, tough dude, you know?

01:31:28.000 I mean, he can bring the pain, so am I, but unfortunately I'm not walking out without that belt.

01:31:32.000 I'm still a champ, and still.

01:31:34.000 When you see a guy like that, what preparations, like what do you think is different about him than guys you've fought before, and what are you going to do different?

01:31:43.000 Well, I mean, every guy's different.

01:31:44.000 I mean, every fight's different.

01:31:46.000 You know, like, everyone's like, oh my god, he's punching power.

01:31:48.000 I mean, listen, there's a lot of guys that hit hard.

01:31:50.000 I mean, there's no question.

01:31:52.000 He does hit hard. 0.82

01:31:53.000 I mean, but I'm not going to be stupid to put myself in a position where I'm going to get hit. 0.66

01:31:57.000 You know, I'm going to do things that make him feel uncomfortable, and I'm going to do what I'm going to do. 0.93

01:32:00.000 I'm not going to sit there and let him do what he wants.

01:32:02.000 I'm going to dictate what I want.

01:32:05.000 When you see the rest of the heavyweight division, do you see any standouts or any guys that are coming up that are exciting to you?

01:32:11.000 Uh-huh.

01:32:14.000 Honestly, I don't pay attention.

01:32:15.000 You don't pay attention?

01:32:15.000 Not really.

01:32:16.000 That's a fascinating thing.

01:32:19.000 I talked to Matt Hughes after Matt Hughes got beat by BJ Penn, and this is what he said.

01:32:25.000 It was really fascinating because he's got so much courage, that guy, to say this in an interview as well.

01:32:32.000 He's like, honestly, it's a relief.

01:32:34.000 He's like, being the champ was so much pressure.

01:32:37.000 It's overwhelming.

01:32:39.000 So having this happen, honestly, right now, I feel relieved.

01:32:42.000 And I was like, wow, that's crazy.

01:32:44.000 Yeah.

01:32:45.000 You know, it's not like he gave up.

01:32:46.000 I mean, he fought his heart out, but he got caught and got choked out.

01:32:49.000 And then to go from that to say, you know, honesty is a relief.

01:32:52.000 And then rebounds and then gets back on the horse and, you know, probably had to have that experience just to have the perspective that, or I don't know if you ever had the perspective that you have, but your perspective is different in that you, like, you don't seem to be concerned.

01:33:08.000 Well, I mean, I'm concerned.

01:33:10.000 There's no question.

01:33:10.000 I think every fight, you know, I'm nervous and always, you know, never know what's going to happen.

01:33:15.000 That's what, you know, as real as it gets because you never know what's going to happen.

01:33:17.000 But you're not concerned that all these guys nipping at your heels, all these guys coming up the ladder.

01:33:21.000 It's part of the game.

01:33:22.000 It's what I signed up for.

01:33:23.000 Yeah.

01:33:24.000 You know, I mean, if I didn't want to do it, I wouldn't do it.

01:33:28.000 You know, I knew that, you know, one day I'll be the champ and I knew there were people that were coming for my belt.

01:33:32.000 Yeah.

01:33:32.000 I understand that.

01:33:33.000 And there's a lot of good guys out there that, I mean, you know, like, you know, fighting JDS, fighting over Doom, you know, Nagami.

01:33:40.000 I mean, they all want a piece of it.

01:33:42.000 I understand.

01:33:43.000 No matter who it is, it's not even just me.

01:33:45.000 It's just whoever.

01:33:45.000 When Kane was fighting, you know, I just, over Doom, you know, I never wanted a piece of the title.

01:33:50.000 Yeah.

01:33:50.000 Well, you know, it's an interesting thing, too, because what we're seeing today with MMA, we're seeing this combination, like this marriage of fighting with promotion.

01:33:59.000 I can't do it.

01:34:00.000 Yeah, you're not that guy.

01:34:01.000 I hate it.

01:34:02.000 But you not being that guy is promotable.

01:34:08.000 First of all, I don't think the UFC has enough resources to promote every fighter adequately.

01:34:14.000 Because I think UFC is a promotional entity, but it's also like the sanctioning body.

01:34:20.000 Not the sanctioning body, but they're the ones who put on the fights, they're the ones who decide who fights, and you've got a 500 fighter roster.

01:34:29.000 Whereas in other organizations, you would have a bunch of different venues and avenues where different fighters could go.

01:34:37.000 When a guy like you is the heavyweight champion...

01:34:41.000 Blue-collar guy.

01:34:42.000 Works as a firefighter.

01:34:44.000 You know, you got a great story.

01:34:46.000 You're a fun guy. 0.99

01:34:47.000 Like, does it frustrate you that people expect you to talk shit? 0.96

01:34:52.000 I mean, you're seeing all these guys that are getting a lot of attention now for it. 0.99

01:34:56.000 Obviously, Conor's the master at it, right?

01:34:58.000 But you're seeing other guys that are, you know, trying that route. 0.99

01:35:02.000 Trying to say outrageous shit to try to get attention, you know? 0.98

01:35:06.000 Yeah, I'm not going to be a copycat. 0.99

01:35:09.000 It's too exhausting for me to figure out what I'm going to say and what I want to say and hurt someone's feelings.

01:35:14.000 I don't care. 0.96

01:35:15.000 I got more important shit to worry about. 0.99

01:35:18.000 My kitchen, I had to figure it out. 0.98

01:35:20.000 I didn't worry about that.

01:35:21.000 I didn't worry about what the next guy I was going to fight was going to say or what I was going to say about it.

01:35:26.000 I'm good, man.

01:35:26.000 I'm just going to do my thing.

01:35:28.000 I'm going to go out there. 1.00

01:35:29.000 I'm going to beat your ass. 1.00

01:35:29.000 I'm going to walk out. 1.00

01:35:30.000 I'm going to be champ. 0.99

01:35:32.000 I'm torn, because on one hand, I'm like, I love a good shit-talking session. 1.00

01:35:36.000 I like shit-talking. 1.00

01:35:37.000 Listen, if you hit the fire station all day, man, I'll shit-talk the best of them. 1.00

01:35:40.000 But I just don't want to go out of my way and just hurt someone's feelings I don't even know. 0.99

01:35:44.000 Yeah, but like Colby Covington, he's making a name for himself, but he's making a name for himself, not just beating good guys like Damian Maia, but talking mad shit. 0.98

01:35:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:35:52.000 Like talking shit in Brazil. 1.00

01:35:54.000 You see when Fabricio Overdoom hit him in the head with a bang boomerang? 1.00

01:35:58.000 Does he have to go to court for that?

01:36:00.000 I think he's going to go to court for that.

01:36:01.000 He's going to let it go.

01:36:02.000 He's going to fly all the way to Australia to go to court for that?

01:36:05.000 That's crazy.

01:36:05.000 Let it go.

01:36:06.000 Come on. 1.00

01:36:07.000 Fucking boomerang. 1.00

01:36:10.000 He wasn't trying to hit him. 1.00

01:36:12.000 I mean, he wasn't trying to kill him.

01:36:12.000 He just threw whatever he had in his hands.

01:36:14.000 I don't know.

01:36:15.000 It's pretty sweet, though.

01:36:16.000 Give him a fine.

01:36:17.000 Give him a little fine.

01:36:17.000 In Australia, right?

01:36:18.000 Yeah.

01:36:19.000 It's great.

01:36:20.000 Yeah, it's like hitting someone in the head with a koala bear, right?

01:36:22.000 You got a bottle of Vegemite or something like that.

01:36:25.000 Oh, God.

01:36:26.000 That stuff's so salty.

01:36:27.000 I like that stuff.

01:36:28.000 Do you like it?

01:36:28.000 Yeah, I do.

01:36:30.000 I did it one time.

01:36:30.000 It was so salty.

01:36:31.000 It's good with butter.

01:36:32.000 Is it?

01:36:32.000 Yeah, with butter on bread.

01:36:34.000 But the... 0.99

01:36:36.000 The thing, like, has there been any pressure on you to try to talk some shit? 0.97

01:36:41.000 To try to, like, promote things more? 0.97

01:36:43.000 No.

01:36:44.000 I mean, they tell me, like, you're your own promoter.

01:36:47.000 I'm like, well, okay.

01:36:49.000 That's what they say to you?

01:36:49.000 Like, how does the UFC say it?

01:36:51.000 I mean, no, I mean, they just, I don't know, like, I don't really care what, you know, they think they want me to do, like, promote.

01:36:57.000 I'm not going to promote myself.

01:36:58.000 Like, that's why you guys are in a promoting company.

01:37:01.000 That's what you're supposed to do.

01:37:01.000 You guys do that, you know?

01:37:02.000 I just...

01:37:03.000 You know, I think they'd rather, you know, 50-50 with it, but I don't see it that way.

01:37:08.000 Well, I think they would rather someone who just promotes themselves. 0.99

01:37:11.000 Like, Conor McGregor's a perfect example, but he's a fucking unicorn. 0.96

01:37:15.000 Like, every now and then, one guy comes along that has, first of all, he has an entire country behind him. 0.98

01:37:20.000 Like, I've never seen anything like that.

01:37:22.000 Like, Ireland's not a big country, but it seems like they're the biggest country in the world when Conor's fighting.

01:37:26.000 I mean, he's fighting in Vegas against an American, and there's more Irish people in the audience.

01:37:30.000 I mean, that's just bananas, right?

01:37:32.000 But...

01:37:33.000 When they got a guy like that, they kind of get spoiled.

01:37:35.000 Like, hey, this is how you got to do it.

01:37:37.000 You got to do it like Conor does it.

01:37:38.000 Well, not everybody's Conor, you know? 0.99

01:37:41.000 So, like, for a guy like you to see all these guys getting a lot of attention, and they're very good fighters as well, in Conor's case, great fighters as well, but the thing is the shit-talking. 0.96

01:37:54.000 Like, that's sort of what's ramping everything up. 0.91

01:37:56.000 That's what's getting all these people to buy the pay-per-view, right?

01:37:59.000 Yeah, I mean, if someone came at me, of course I'm going to defend myself.

01:38:02.000 I'm pretty greedy.

01:38:04.000 I'm a fireman. 0.99

01:38:04.000 I get shit talked to every day by five or six guys. 0.99

01:38:09.000 But like I said, I just want to go out of my way and just have other stuff to worry about, training-wise. 0.98

01:38:13.000 What am I going to tweet today?

01:38:15.000 Right, right, right.

01:38:16.000 It's too much.

01:38:17.000 Made Chael Sonnen's career, other than being a great fighter, but it did. 0.99

01:38:21.000 Chael's career really took off when he started talking shit. 0.99

01:38:25.000 People remember Chael in the early days of his career, he was a gentleman, never talked shit. 1.00

01:38:29.000 Then somewhere along the line, he's like, Anderson Silva, you absolutely suck! 0.99

01:38:34.000 That's my belt. 0.98

01:38:35.000 And it's like a WWE promotion, and everybody's going crazy, and Chael took it to a new level. 0.98

01:38:41.000 Chael opened up the door to a lot of shit talkers of the modern era. 0.98

01:38:46.000 He really let them know, like, look, that guy promoted the fuck out of some fights. 0.99

01:38:50.000 Do you take classes or anything like that? 0.87

01:38:52.000 I don't think so.

01:38:52.000 I'm not trying to be funny.

01:38:53.000 Chael's very smart.

01:38:55.000 You ever talk to him?

01:38:55.000 No, yeah, he's very intelligent, yeah.

01:38:56.000 Very smart.

01:38:57.000 I did a couple of his radio shows.

01:38:59.000 Exceptionally smart.

01:39:00.000 And very articulate.

01:39:03.000 He's got a great vocabulary.

01:39:05.000 See right there, I have no vocabulary.

01:39:07.000 I'm not articulate. 0.99

01:39:08.000 I'm screwed. 0.99

01:39:08.000 But you're you. 0.99

01:39:11.000 I've always said that.

01:39:13.000 It's almost like there's no way I mean, other than maybe having a podcast or something like that, and I know that Tyron does that now.

01:39:21.000 Tyron Woodley has his own podcast, and I think a couple other guys maybe as well.

01:39:25.000 But it's hard.

01:39:27.000 It's hard for people to get to know you. 0.94

01:39:29.000 All they see is this stoic fireman who goes out there and fucks people up. 0.91

01:39:33.000 Which should be enough. 0.92

01:39:34.000 Who doesn't want that? 0.53

01:39:36.000 That's what I say.

01:39:37.000 It should be enough.

01:39:38.000 But I think it's hard for the UFC to figure out how to promote everybody.

01:39:43.000 No, yeah, I understand.

01:39:44.000 I mean, like you said, there's 500 people on the roster and all that.

01:39:47.000 So, yeah, definitely.

01:39:49.000 Yeah, whatever.

01:39:51.000 It is what it is.

01:39:51.000 What are you going to do?

01:39:53.000 Can't make everyone happy.

01:39:54.000 I think the Embedded's helped me out a little bit.

01:39:56.000 Yes.

01:39:56.000 The Embedded's are great.

01:39:57.000 I think those helped me out a little bit, too.

01:39:58.000 They help you out a lot.

01:39:59.000 Yeah, they get a chance to see who you really are.

01:40:01.000 The last thing, I'll leave it in the comments. 1.00

01:40:03.000 It's either I'm too loose or my wife's got a fat ass. 1.00

01:40:07.000 Both might be true. 1.00

01:40:08.000 That's true.

01:40:10.000 But there's nothing wrong with, you know, first of all, I can't read the comments.

01:40:14.000 Oh, I love it.

01:40:15.000 I laugh.

01:40:15.000 Do you?

01:40:15.000 I laugh.

01:40:16.000 So, back in the day, back in the day when I lost the stream or anything, I was like, people would write me like novels to tell how bad of a person I was. 0.96

01:40:23.000 I should kill myself. 0.70

01:40:24.000 I was the worst fighter in America. 1.00

01:40:25.000 I was in the world.

01:40:26.000 I'm like, oh my God.

01:40:27.000 Oh my God.

01:40:28.000 My wife's like, stop reading it. 1.00

01:40:30.000 So I deleted my Facebook account.

01:40:32.000 Did you?

01:40:33.000 Yeah, I deleted it.

01:40:34.000 Then I get my epiphany.

01:40:36.000 I said, screw it.

01:40:37.000 I don't care anymore.

01:40:37.000 So now, if you watch my Instagram, once in a while, some dude tag me or something.

01:40:42.000 He'll be like, what's up, Joe?

01:40:43.000 What's up? 1.00

01:40:45.000 Say something stupid. 1.00

01:40:46.000 He's like, you're a paper champion. 1.00

01:40:48.000 He's a fake.

01:40:49.000 He's a paper champion. 0.66

01:40:50.000 I'm like, I know.

01:40:51.000 Dude, totally fake and a paper champion. 1.00

01:40:52.000 Dude needs his ass beat. 1.00

01:40:54.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:40:55.000 It's me.

01:40:56.000 He's talking about me, and these guys are like, and they won't put a word. 1.00

01:40:58.000 I'm like, what the fuck, man? 0.99

01:40:59.000 Come back with me, man. 1.00

01:41:01.000 I just laugh at it. 0.99

01:41:03.000 I just think it's funny as shit. 0.97

01:41:05.000 But isn't it kind of a waste of energy to engage with those people, or you actually enjoy it? 0.98

01:41:09.000 I actually enjoy it.

01:41:10.000 I think it's funny.

01:41:11.000 I have the people that usually hit me up on a message, and they'll be like, bro, I just love you, champ.

01:41:14.000 I just wanted to get a reaction out of you.

01:41:16.000 I'm like, oh, you're that guy.

01:41:17.000 That guy.

01:41:18.000 Those guys are the saddest.

01:41:20.000 But...

01:41:21.000 It's also like, after this true fight, you were at your lowest.

01:41:24.000 So you're reading comments when you actually lost.

01:41:26.000 Now, you're reading comments when you're the heavyweight champion of the world. 1.00

01:41:29.000 It's like, what are you going to say, bitch? 1.00

01:41:31.000 Yeah, that's true. 1.00

01:41:32.000 What the fuck are you going to say? 1.00

01:41:34.000 Kiss the ring. 1.00

01:41:35.000 The worst thing, you know, they could say is, they can't say anything. 1.00

01:41:39.000 You fucking, you're the champ. 1.00

01:41:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:41:41.000 You're going to lose someday.

01:41:42.000 Like, that's the worst thing they could say.

01:41:44.000 Yeah, probably.

01:41:45.000 Most likely.

01:41:46.000 I mean, if you keep going eventually, you'll be 80. Yeah, I mean, that's going to suck. 0.53

01:41:50.000 Yeah, I mean, everybody, if you keep going, will lose, including Mayweather, including everybody who's ever lived. 1.00

01:41:55.000 If you keep going long enough, Father Time will kick your ass. 1.00

01:41:59.000 100%. 1.00

01:41:59.000 And someone will be there to help them out. 1.00

01:42:01.000 Fuck, I go mow my three acres once a week, and I get done, I'm like, How old are you? 1.00

01:42:06.000 I'm 35. You're still alright. 1.00

01:42:08.000 You still got a couple years.

01:42:09.000 Heavyweight, they say, but you're later in life.

01:42:11.000 Not when I cut the grass, bro.

01:42:13.000 I feel like I'm 95, man.

01:42:15.000 I get done and my back is tight and sore.

01:42:17.000 I'm like, god dang.

01:42:18.000 From cutting grass?

01:42:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:42:19.000 I got a big skag, man. 0.99

01:42:20.000 I fly around, I get done, and I wake up in the morning.

01:42:22.000 I'm like, oh.

01:42:23.000 Everything hurts.

01:42:24.000 What's a big skag? 1.00

01:42:25.000 It's a 61 inch.

01:42:26.000 It's like a commercial lawnmower.

01:42:28.000 Oh, you got one of them bad boys?

01:42:29.000 Those seem like fun.

01:42:30.000 Oh, it just flies.

01:42:31.000 That hurts your back?

01:42:33.000 Yeah, because I'm always bouncing.

01:42:34.000 It's not a perfect level sometimes. 0.99

01:42:36.000 The fucking daily grind of MMA training. 0.98

01:42:39.000 What that's got to be doing to your body. 0.99

01:42:42.000 When you were talking about how you barely get out of bed some days, most people would think they see you fighting like, this fucking guy's just doing cartwheels all around his house all day. 0.99

01:42:51.000 It's so bad. 0.99

01:42:53.000 I wake up in the morning and my wife's like, hey. 0.99

01:42:56.000 I'm like, hey.

01:42:56.000 She's like, can you get me a coffee?

01:42:57.000 I'm like, ah.

01:42:58.000 She wants you to get her a coffee? 1.00

01:42:59.000 Yeah, it's what I do for her. 1.00

01:43:01.000 Who's the fucking champ? 0.99

01:43:02.000 Oh, yeah, no. 1.00

01:43:02.000 Who's the champ? 1.00

01:43:03.000 I'm fourth in my house.

01:43:04.000 The champ doesn't get coffee! 1.00

01:43:07.000 I'm like four in my house, man.

01:43:08.000 It's like her, the dogs, and me.

01:43:09.000 I guess I'm there to pay the bills, man.

01:43:11.000 I think that's good for you, though.

01:43:13.000 I really do.

01:43:14.000 I think that's healthy to have somebody you've got to answer to sometimes.

01:43:17.000 I love it.

01:43:18.000 Honestly, she takes care of me, man.

01:43:19.000 She does a lot for me, so it's the least I can do for her.

01:43:22.000 You know what I mean?

01:43:22.000 She's a good woman.

01:43:25.000 Like I said, we had that big storm.

01:43:27.000 I had no idea what to do.

01:43:28.000 She called insurance.

01:43:30.000 She screamed with them. 1.00

01:43:30.000 Got more shit that we needed. 1.00

01:43:34.000 I'm like, oh yeah, that's fine. 0.99

01:43:35.000 They gave me a little check and I'm fine with it.

01:43:37.000 You should film you getting out of bed in the morning.

01:43:40.000 Maybe you should do something like that for Instagram.

01:43:42.000 Do an Instagram video.

01:43:44.000 Here we go.

01:43:48.000 I mean people just don't they don't know because what all they're seeing is you KOing Fabricio Verdun, knocking out Junior Dos Santos, raising your hands, you know, all of the glory moments. 0.95

01:43:58.000 I think that's one of the things that Embedded does really well is they show like hey this is a fucking grind for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks until you get into a cage for a fistfight and this is a fucking brutal way to get by in life.

01:44:16.000 And you can go 30 seconds Or in 25 minutes. 0.96

01:44:20.000 Yeah.

01:44:20.000 Which, of course, we'd rather go 30 seconds and win, but...

01:44:24.000 Yeah, maybe they should do something like that for this fight.

01:44:26.000 Like, really follow you from beginning to end.

01:44:30.000 See what it's like when you're getting up in the morning and then just put it together for something after the fight. 0.99

01:44:35.000 Yeah, I mean, it sucks. 0.98

01:44:37.000 Some days, man, some days I'm alright, but other days I'm like, God damn it, I'm so sorry. 0.99

01:44:41.000 I'm like, man, this sucks. 0.98

01:44:43.000 I sleep wrong. 0.67

01:44:44.000 Unfortunately, we let the dogs sleep in bed with us.

01:44:46.000 Oh, no.

01:44:46.000 I get like one-eighth of the bed, every king-sized bed.

01:44:49.000 So my wife sprawled out.

01:44:51.000 Like a skydiver.

01:44:52.000 Yeah, I'm like, honey, can I have some covers, please?

01:44:56.000 I think the dog's a fart in your face.

01:44:58.000 Last night was so bad, man. 0.99

01:44:59.000 Primo, God, that dude, hot stinks last night.

01:45:02.000 Yeah, I had her move. 0.92

01:45:03.000 My dog was watching TV with me last night, farting up a storm.

01:45:06.000 Dude, it's not cool.

01:45:10.000 It's the worst.

01:45:12.000 How do you know when to call it? 0.92

01:45:17.000 If you get up in the morning and you're real fucking sore, how do you know when maybe I should take today off? 0.95

01:45:23.000 I usually know by that night, the night before. 0.96

01:45:26.000 I talk to my coaches, you know, and they'll be like, hey, how do you feel?

01:45:30.000 Just how my sparring goes and stuff like that, or grappling, whatever I do, some type of my sparring session, if it's MMA, kickboxing, or boxing, or jiu-jitsu, whatever it is, they'll just watch me, and they'll be like, how do you feel? 0.99

01:45:41.000 And I'm like, yeah, I feel like shit.

01:45:42.000 And they'll be like, alright, you know what, just take tomorrow off, or just take half a day and then work out at night. 0.98

01:45:48.000 And when you do take a day off, do you do ice baths or how do you try to accelerate the recovery?

01:45:56.000 Yeah, I usually do an ice bath, Epsom salt or something.

01:45:58.000 I sleep all day.

01:46:00.000 I literally just eat and sleep all day.

01:46:02.000 Just sleep.

01:46:02.000 Just catch up on rest.

01:46:03.000 Yeah.

01:46:04.000 It's interesting, though, because there's no real set thing where you can know when to do it and when not to.

01:46:09.000 You just got to do it all by feel?

01:46:10.000 Yeah.

01:46:11.000 I think just knowing your body.

01:46:12.000 I think it's one thing I've picked up well on since I started fighting is just knowing my body.

01:46:17.000 Because, you know, I think you're the best critic on your body.

01:46:20.000 Because, like, back in the day we used to do caveman training.

01:46:22.000 You know, like, I feel fine.

01:46:23.000 I'm fine.

01:46:24.000 But here's another thing, too, is, like, we're so used to training a certain way, you can get through those workouts even if you're tired and sore.

01:46:30.000 But I can go and pick up a bag of groceries and blow up my back.

01:46:33.000 Right.

01:46:34.000 I pick up a baby or put it on my shoe.

01:46:36.000 I never have it, but you do random stuff that you don't do every day.

01:46:39.000 You pick up a bag of groceries and you're like, oh my bag, oh!

01:46:42.000 And your bag goes out, but then I can go and spar five five-minute rounds and my body's dead, but I can make it through just because I'm so used to my body going through it.

01:46:50.000 Yeah, that's the weirdest thing, right? 0.99

01:46:52.000 You do the most ridiculous, hardcore shit and then you just go to tie your shoes wrong and something tweaks. 1.00

01:46:59.000 What is that? 1.00

01:47:00.000 What's causing that?

01:47:02.000 Actually, after my ovary fight, we're sitting there and we're on a boat with my buddy with his parents.

01:47:08.000 We're hanging out.

01:47:09.000 We're just, you know, a couple cocktails, a little day drinking.

01:47:11.000 We're hanging out, driving around Brown Stadium in the water, and he has this little, like, four-pound dog.

01:47:16.000 I was like, oh, what's up, little girl?

01:47:18.000 How you doing?

01:47:18.000 I go to pick her up, and I'm like, and my back went out.

01:47:22.000 After the fight?

01:47:23.000 Yeah, it was after the fight.

01:47:24.000 That's hilarious.

01:47:24.000 A week later.

01:47:25.000 How crazy is that?

01:47:26.000 I was like, ugh!

01:47:27.000 But it didn't go fully, fully.

01:47:29.000 I felt, I'm like, okay, we're good, we're good.

01:47:33.000 So then a couple days later, I didn't do anything for a couple days, so I went to spar and hit a double leg.

01:47:38.000 I pinched the nerve in my back and went.

01:47:39.000 I was out for a whole week.

01:47:41.000 That's crazy, from picking up a dog.

01:47:43.000 Four-pound dog. 0.99

01:47:46.000 I get punched in the face by a massive man and then this little dog fucks me up. 0.99

01:47:52.000 I was going to Vegas once for a K-1 bout way back in the day. 0.98

01:47:57.000 There was some K-1 fights in Vegas we were going to go watch.

01:48:00.000 And I'm in the shower on the way to leave the house.

01:48:04.000 I'm taking a shower.

01:48:05.000 Oh, this is going to be fun.

01:48:06.000 Can't wait to see these fights.

01:48:07.000 And I just turned to grab the soap and something popped in my neck. 1.00

01:48:13.000 I was like, fuck! 1.00

01:48:14.000 Out of nowhere. 1.00

01:48:15.000 So I drove to Vegas like this the entire way, like four hours.

01:48:19.000 And every time I had to turn, like, to look behind me to park, I had to literally turn my whole body like this from just turning to grab shampoo or something.

01:48:27.000 Like, just turning.

01:48:29.000 Like, no idea what it was.

01:48:31.000 Doesn't make any sense.

01:48:32.000 We just turn around and just...

01:48:34.000 Every now and then. 0.95

01:48:34.000 And it fucked me up for like two weeks. 0.95

01:48:36.000 For like two weeks, my neck was fucked. 0.99

01:48:38.000 It doesn't make any sense. 0.99

01:48:39.000 Did it get adjusted?

01:48:40.000 No, it didn't get adjusted.

01:48:42.000 Maybe I should have.

01:48:43.000 Maybe I should have.

01:48:44.000 Maybe I should have gone to a chicken doctor. 1.00

01:48:46.000 They'd kill a fucking duck and whack it over my head. 1.00

01:48:49.000 Some voodoo shit. 1.00

01:48:52.000 I mean, look, I'm not saying that going to a chiropractor is a bad thing. 0.99

01:48:55.000 Some people, I'm sure it works, but...

01:48:57.000 When you know the history of how it got started, it's a little wacky.

01:49:01.000 There's some pretty good articles about how wacky it is.

01:49:07.000 It's interesting because there's a lot of methods of recovery that some people swear by.

01:49:12.000 Like the cupping thing, or electrical muscular stimulation.

01:49:16.000 You ever see those Normatec boots?

01:49:18.000 They put those things on your legs? 1.00

01:49:20.000 Have you ever used those?

01:49:21.000 No?

01:49:22.000 Do you hang upside down?

01:49:24.000 No, no, no.

01:49:26.000 It's like you're putting on pants.

01:49:28.000 They go all the way up your legs.

01:49:30.000 Oh, yeah, the compression.

01:49:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:49:31.000 For circulation.

01:49:32.000 Yeah, they're supposed to be really good for recovery.

01:49:36.000 Yeah.

01:49:36.000 It's interesting how so many of these things, they're just trying things out.

01:49:39.000 They're trying to figure out what works for you and what doesn't work for you.

01:49:43.000 Yeah, when I had knee surgery, they had this awesome contraption wrapped around your leg.

01:49:47.000 And she's like, how...

01:49:50.000 Compress you on it.

01:49:51.000 Eventually we'll get it tight.

01:49:52.000 So once you get it tight, the cold water comes through and it gets super tight and constricts it and pushes all the bad blood in.

01:49:58.000 It's awesome.

01:49:59.000 I love it.

01:49:59.000 What'd you have done with your knee?

01:50:00.000 It's a scope.

01:50:01.000 Yeah.

01:50:02.000 It's my fifth one.

01:50:03.000 Fifth one? 1.00

01:50:04.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:50:05.000 On the same knee? 0.99

01:50:06.000 No, I had two on my right and three on my left.

01:50:10.000 Yeah.

01:50:11.000 It's tough being a big guy.

01:50:12.000 I'm going to be crippled when I get older.

01:50:13.000 Do you run?

01:50:14.000 I do.

01:50:15.000 I use an anti-gravity treadmill.

01:50:16.000 What's an anti-gravity treadmill?

01:50:18.000 So I put on these super tights, these super tight things, and I zip myself up, and you can go like half your body weight, 60% of your body weight, whatever, and you hit the bike.

01:50:27.000 Oh, you in the water?

01:50:28.000 Is that what it is?

01:50:28.000 No, it's air, and it lifts me up.

01:50:29.000 What?

01:50:31.000 Really?

01:50:31.000 It's pretty badass, yeah.

01:50:33.000 What's the benefit of that?

01:50:35.000 Just so I don't pound my feet as much.

01:50:37.000 Is that it right there?

01:50:37.000 Yep, that's it.

01:50:38.000 Wow, so it doesn't pound your feet.

01:50:40.000 Sorry, because I'm 240 pounds, so I'm gonna kill my feet and my legs and my knees, so it lifts me up and makes it a little bit easier.

01:50:46.000 But it can't possibly be giving you as hard a workout, though.

01:50:48.000 Oh, definitely.

01:50:49.000 I'm running at 9.5 miles per hour.

01:50:51.000 Right, but you're running at 9.5 miles per hour at less than your body weight.

01:50:55.000 Yeah, I'm still running at 200-some pounds instead of 240. Oh, okay.

01:51:01.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:51:02.000 So if I go have a body weight, I'm running at 120 pounds, and then 75% I'm running at 200-some pounds, whatever it is.

01:51:08.000 It still works.

01:51:08.000 I get a great swim.

01:51:09.000 I'm still breathing hard.

01:51:10.000 I still push myself.

01:51:11.000 Is that one of your main forms of cardio?

01:51:14.000 Yeah, that, and I do a lot of...

01:51:17.000 You know, pad work, you know, sparring.

01:51:19.000 So I get done with sparring.

01:51:21.000 I do my rounds and I get done.

01:51:22.000 I do either pad work for like 20 minutes straight right after and then I do some sticks with my coach, you know, working my head moving.

01:51:28.000 All the foam sticks?

01:51:30.000 Yeah, whatever they made.

01:51:32.000 They made some weird contraption probably.

01:51:34.000 I have no idea.

01:51:35.000 Do you do any other machines like a VersaClimber or anything?

01:51:39.000 Swimming?

01:51:40.000 Do you do any swimming?

01:51:40.000 No.

01:51:41.000 No?

01:51:42.000 No, I do a lot of wrestling.

01:51:44.000 I started wrestling here soon.

01:51:47.000 So mostly a lot of it is old school training.

01:51:49.000 Yeah.

01:51:50.000 Which is probably the best way anyway.

01:51:51.000 Yeah, I like it.

01:51:52.000 I mean, I run twice a week though, for sure.

01:51:54.000 There's no question.

01:51:55.000 I like running just because I run hard on Mondays and then Fridays is more of a recovery run, let my body rest.

01:52:00.000 But you're doing it in this thing.

01:52:01.000 You're not running on the concrete.

01:52:03.000 Yeah.

01:52:03.000 I like running.

01:52:04.000 I think it just feels so much better in my legs.

01:52:06.000 I feel a hundred times better. 0.98

01:52:08.000 I could imagine, especially when you're dealing with 240 pounds, pounding on your knees, and you've scoped out all the cartilage and shit. 0.99

01:52:15.000 Yeah, it sucks. 0.99

01:52:16.000 They're doing some stuff now, though. 0.84

01:52:17.000 You should look into, like, talk to Dr. Davidson from the UFC. They're shooting stem cells into knees and regenerating cartilage and meniscus tissue.

01:52:25.000 I'd check into that, for sure.

01:52:26.000 I mean, I definitely want to get knee replacement when I'm older.

01:52:29.000 Knee replacement?

01:52:30.000 I don't want to have that.

01:52:31.000 Oh, no, you don't want that.

01:52:32.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:52:34.000 I don't think you're going to have to do that anymore.

01:52:36.000 I think soft tissue stuff, they're going to be able to fix that.

01:52:39.000 Oh, thank God.

01:52:39.000 Yeah.

01:52:40.000 They're pretty damn close. 0.99

01:52:42.000 They're able to do some pretty incredible shit now. 0.99

01:52:44.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:52:44.000 At least they can grow your teeth now. 0.99

01:52:47.000 Really?

01:52:47.000 Yeah, my wife just posted on it.

01:52:49.000 They grow your teeth? 0.99

01:52:50.000 They can grow your teeth like the PRP, something like that.

01:52:53.000 Whoa.

01:52:54.000 Really?

01:52:55.000 Jamie will find it.

01:52:56.000 They grow your teeth.

01:52:58.000 Yes.

01:52:59.000 They put a little scaffolding of some kind, and then they use some injection to regrow teeth.

01:53:05.000 I don't know if it's in full use yet, but it's definitely on the way if it's not. 0.99

01:53:09.000 They're going to be able to grow all kinds of shit. 0.98

01:53:11.000 They're going to be able to grow body parts. 1.00

01:53:12.000 Our great-grandchildren, they're going to cut their hands off and grow new ones that they don't think they look good. 0.85

01:53:17.000 Kids are going to be like, my hands looked ugly. 0.82

01:53:19.000 I wanted long, slender fingers, so I cut them off. 0.58

01:53:24.000 That's the world we're going to be living in.

01:53:26.000 100%, yeah.

01:53:26.000 It's going to be superficial.

01:53:28.000 Well, not just superficial, but bizarre.

01:53:31.000 They've already regenerated a bunch of different body parts.

01:53:33.000 This one woman had bladder cancer, and so they made her a new bladder with her own skin. 1.00

01:53:39.000 They used her own skin and used stem cells and grew her bladder in a Petri dish and then put it back in her body. 1.00

01:53:48.000 I don't know how great it is.

01:53:49.000 I haven't talked to her about her pee. 0.97

01:53:51.000 The promise of growing new teeth.

01:53:53.000 Dental stem cells could revolutionize treatment for patients who face extractions.

01:53:59.000 Wow.

01:54:00.000 Growing new teeth. 1.00

01:54:01.000 Fuck, what a weird world we're living in. 1.00

01:54:03.000 Right? 1.00

01:54:05.000 That's got to feel good for you, though, to be thinking about the future, like all the stuff you're doing to yourself right now, all the injuries and getting banged up.

01:54:12.000 Yeah.

01:54:12.000 And be able to squirt some stuff in there and fix everything.

01:54:14.000 I'm cool with that.

01:54:15.000 You're good with it?

01:54:15.000 Yeah, I'm good with that.

01:54:16.000 All right, Steepi, so January 20th, everybody should watch UFC Heavyweight Championship live from Boston, Massachusetts.

01:54:26.000 I'll be there.

01:54:27.000 I can't wait.

01:54:28.000 Good luck to you, brother.

01:54:29.000 Thanks for doing the show, man.

01:54:30.000 No, thanks for having me, man.

01:54:31.000 Glad we had John.

01:54:32.000 Oh, for sure.

01:54:32.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Stipe Miocic, heavyweight champ of the world.

01:54:37.000 Let these bitches know. 1.00

01:54:38.000 What? 1.00

01:54:39.000 Let them know.

01:54:39.000 Cleveland's in the house.

01:54:40.000 O-H-I-O! Thanks for having me.

01:54:46.000 Oh, my pleasure.

The Joe Rogan Experience - January 21, 2010

JRE MMA Show #5 with Stipe Miocic

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