JRE MMA Show #56 with Brendan Schaub
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1 hour and 57 minutes
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197.04102
Summary
This week, the boys talk about ads on the internet, the new Ford GT500, and the weirdest thing that pops up when you look at ads on your phone. Also, the guys talk about why they hate America and why they don t want to get a car like the Ford GT350 or R/C. They also talk about the new Tesla Model Y, and why Ford should get a GT500 instead of a GT350. Also, they talk about how they're going to fix the problem with Ford's new GT500 and how they should make it a manual or automatic car. The guys also discuss how they feel about Ford's decision to make the GT500 only in automatic, and what they would like to see the company do with it. Shout out to the guys at Plasticell for sponsoring the podcast this week. We hope you guys enjoy the episode, and stay tuned for more episodes in the future. XOXO, The Guys. -Jon Sorrentino and the Crew Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. Art by Skynet. We are working on transcribing this episode of the podcast and putting it on SoundCloud and other platforms. Please rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts. If you like what you hear, tag us on Anchor.fm and tag us in the pod and we'll be sure to send us your thoughts on the next episode! and on Insta: if you like the pod? . Thanks for listening and review us on Instafoods and your thoughts about the podcast or any other podcast you re listening to the podcast you like it :) Thank you for supporting the pod :) -Jon and the crew at in the podcast. Jon is looking out for the best podc & the crew is looking for a new episode in the next week's episode and we appreciate the support we can give us a shoutout! and we re looking forward to the next one! -Tune in next week for the new episode of The Boys are looking out on the podcast next week! Jon and the boys are looking over our next episode can't wait to hear back from you guys! --Jon & the Crew at The Boys -The Crew
Transcript
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And we're live, ladies and gentlemen, so I get a message.
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I get a message from a friend of mine who says that while he was listening to the show, we were talking about something, and then the ads for that thing started showing up.
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He said, you guys were talking about slouching with Theo Vaughn today, and this popped up on his feed just now.
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I never Googled it before, and it's some fucking alarm that goes off, like when you slouch for it.
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It could be that, or it could be targeting Joe Rogan listeners.
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I mean, maybe that, but there's a large audience here, so they could just be going after.
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Right, but do you think, like what Adam Green, she said the other day, that he was talking about Toyota trucks, and then all of a sudden his Google ads started showing up Toyota Tacomas.
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And he's like, dude, he goes, they're listening.
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Someone's listening, but they're also looking for key terms and stuff like that.
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But they're listening to your phone as you're having a conversation.
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I took screenshots because it happened three consecutive weeks.
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And within 12 hours I was getting an ad for it.
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It's like, how the fuck am I getting an ad for this thing now?
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This idea, you know, because sometimes things are just a coincidence.
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And this idea that there's some grand conspiracy when it could be easily explained by coincidence.
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But the thing that Adam said, he said, he goes, mate, I never fucking Googled Toyota trucks.
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But he was saying that they started popping up right after the podcast.
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So if that's the case, they had to be listening to his podcast.
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One of them's listening because you have a large audience.
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And then they're just like, dude, they launched those ads.
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You think they would spoil more fucking crime and stuff if they're listening to everything?
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I mean, I feel like, for sure, when I Google something, it starts popping up.
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If you go on my phone right now, because I've been looking at Dodge Vipers, anything I click on, Dodge Vipers pop up.
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This motherfucker's looking to spend some money.
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Speaking of spending some money, Ford, why do you hate America?
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I didn't know that I posted on my story because some dude was like, Shob, when you get one of these?
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People go, well, you have a PDK GT3 RS. It's different.
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Well, it's also that's the only way they make it.
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It's the only way they make the GT3 RS. The RS, yeah.
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The GT500, it used to only be stick, like the GT350. Yeah.
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Well, you know why they're doing it, because they want to compete with everyone, because on the track, the PDKs beat the best racers in the world.
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Like, my brother's telling me about this article he was reading, where, I think it was the new GT3 RS, and...
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Or maybe it was the new GT3, because there's one in PDK, there's one in stick.
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They had one of the best race car drivers in the world driving the stick shift.
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Then they had some average dumbass driving the PDK, and they were going around the track, and the PDK smoked this dude.
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If you're just trying to buy a car for the track, I get it.
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But how many people are buying a car for the track?
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I just like the feeling, and it's kind of lame because I have that slingshot, the polar slingshot, and that stick shift, and that's like a tricky stick shift.
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Well, that's that little tiny cage with wheels.
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But because it's a stick shift, I like not being able to pay attention to my phone.
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I like having to worry about all the cars around me.
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I like the feeling of the road and the stick shift.
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That little 65 Corvette, that thing's so small.
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That's what they used to have with the GT500. I had a GT500 way back in 2012. It was glorious.
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You know, if you drive your freaking M5, it's so cushy and everything.
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There's a shitload of carbon fiber in it now, yeah?
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Yeah, there's a bunch of shit like the splitter and a bunch of the arrow stuff.
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Have it as an option and they give you a skirt when you climb into it.
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It said the transmission was made specifically for this car.
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I would still drive that, even though it's an automatic.
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With all the carbon fiber, that thing's a fucking rocket.
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If there's a bunch of carbon fiber, it's not going to be that heavy.
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So this is going to be heavier than the GT350 because it has a supercharger on it.
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The supercharger and all that other jazz is probably about 100 pounds.
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But that's the 350. The GT500 has a big-ass Whipple supercharger on it.
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They're trying to make a muscle car a precision scalpel instrument, like a 911 GT3. It's not that.
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Like, that white car that I have, the GT3 RS, the Shark Works car, that car is a scalpel.
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It's effortless, the way it handles and maneuvers, and it's just a different experience.
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Yeah, it's not going to beat any fucking track times.
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I mean, what are you, Nicolas Cage and gone in 60 seconds?
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Any car, I'm like, my thing would beat the shit out of that.
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It's so irresponsible to even be able to sell these cars.
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Like, when they're selling these Corvettes, these new Corvette ZR1s with 757 horsepower, they have a sub-3 second 0-60.
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There needs to be, like, an IQ test for that thing.
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That new Tesla Roadster is going to be zero to 60 in under two seconds.
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That's trouble because every moron that doesn't owe a car is getting Tesla because it's like the new Prius cool thing to do.
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And so they get those things and they're fucking lightning rods.
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Callan goes back and forth from complaining about it to telling you how you should get one.
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That thing, the charge, I just don't know, man.
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He should get something that's reliable that he could drive around everywhere.
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But if he wants to be manly, why would he get a car that doesn't make any noise?
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If you ask him what dual exhaust is, he'd be like, I have no idea.
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I want to say, like, 2002 or 2003. He had a Ford Bronco.
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It was an old school one with a carburetor and shit.
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Yeah, he was like this wild man living on Venice Beach.
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This is Audi's new thing that they just announced.
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Because the Germans said, oh, Tesla, you're making cars?
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There's only going to be about 50 of them made.
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It looks dope, but I'd rather have the R8 with a gas engine.
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That is a beastly looking spaceship of a vehicle, bro.
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It looks pretty much like a modernized R8. No, it's got a seat in the center.
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Yeah, if you've got a girlfriend, you tell her to sit in the backseat and rub my neck.
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I bet they're going to come out with a gas pad, R8. It looks just the same.
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Well, apparently people are taking the Acura NSX and they're replacing, they're doing something to the boost, replacing the ECU, so they're changing the program that they use to...
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And using aftermarket exhaust and just jacking the horsepower way up.
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This was off Sunset when I was coming home from the store.
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Yeah, it blew them off the line at the red light.
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Well, they're making them spaceship-y, you know?
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Dude, I was in Edmonton this past weekend, freezing at the Giant Mall, but in the middle of the mall, there's a McLaren, and, you know, that mall's filled with kids, because there's...
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And this poor McLaren is hurting my feelings because there's kids everywhere.
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Kids wiping their shitty, sticky fingers in it.
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Taking Legos, just fucking etching their names in the side and shit.
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I was like, come on, McLaren, show a little pride, huh?
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Are they really selling a lot of McLarens in Edmonton?
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A lot of those guys up there in Alberta, they get those jobs, which are tough fucking jobs.
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My friend John Rivett and his wife Jen, their son was doing it for a while.
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I know it's down because the economy there, one of the drivers was telling me, he's like, yeah, oil's just not what it's, you know, it's a fraction of the price than what it was a year ago, two years ago.
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Can you imagine if that was like your business and your business could just fluctuate that hard?
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Well, because eventually it's going to be useless.
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Well, not with assholes like us that don't want to drive electric cars.
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I'm like, God, I hope this little perk isn't just driving Teslas everywhere.
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Like, I want to educate them on dope-ass rides.
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But then it's fucking up the planet, but also, is it?
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There's a lot of different things that are having an effect.
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You know I'm saying yeah, it's there's a lot I mean human beings There's a lot of us and we're definitely burning a lot of shit and putting a lot of carbon into the atmosphere And there's a just definitely an impact well It's an impact is crazy the question is how much of an impact and Can it be turned around?
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You've got your ultimate doom and gloom people that are saying...
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They're saying that all of the city is going to be underwater...
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The fucking East Coast is going to be underwater.
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And then you've got the other people that say, no, we're just going to be able to move into Northern Canada.
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People that think that we're just going to have beautiful spots in Antarctica.
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The real optimists think that we're going to be able to take some of the carbon out of the atmosphere.
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And the way they're going to be able to do it, they actually invented this giant machine that looks like a building.
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It's like a building size machine that's like a huge air filter.
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I think they're installing them somewhere in China.
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Because, you know, like when the athletes were in Beijing for the Olympics, they said the air quality was like smoking a pack of cigarettes a day.
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Dude, you don't realize how important air quality is.
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When those fires, I was doing shows in Sacramento, I didn't even think of it.
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And fans are DMing me going, dude, are you going to cancel?
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You sent me a picture from your hotel room, and I was like, is there a fire in your room?
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Dude, I've never seen anything like it, and I did not feel good.
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I was sick the whole time there, doing my shows.
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Everyone had masks on, like Asians at airports.
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We couldn't get any masks because they're all sold out.
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They filter some of it, but I didn't realize how big of a deal it was until I went up there.
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I mean, the fires down here were big, but nothing compared to the Northern California fires.
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Because the area of Northern California that got lit up was like woods.
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I mean, the whole town was just, it's not there anymore.
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Do you see they fired the frickin' some of the firefighters and like relief people because they were taking pictures like, not even mocking.
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I don't think they should have been fired because it was like an all burnt down house and then there was like, I don't know, like a wooden horse and then like firefighters like on the wooden horse.
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Like, oh, you're mocking the people who lost their homes and they lost their jobs?
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These guys are fighting for their life out there.
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You really think it's in that poor taste for these poor guys who risked their lives to save people's houses to have a good time?
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Like, at a certain point in time, we're going to have to make fireproof houses.
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Or you gotta do what Kanye did and just have your own freaking fire department just surround your house just in case.
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In my neighborhood, there's a house that burnt to the ground.
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What we're looking at is rows of houses that are gone.
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I mean, they're torched, but yeah, they're there.
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Wouldn't you expect the trees to be burnt to a crisp?
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Oh, coming from Edmund, I flew down, so from north to south.
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And when you go over Malibu and Woodland Hills and where you live, when you see all that, it's insane from a bird's eye view.
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You can just see all the black when you're flying into L.A. Well, I flew over Malibu with Burr in a helicopter, so we got real low.
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How the fuck does a bridge burn down the steel?
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And then also a lot of it, and this is just from my own experience, down here, looking at homes in areas where there's chances of fire that were caused by fires, banks won't give you the loan or you have to put a higher, almost all cash payment down.
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And also the house insurance on a fire area, they're not going to do it these days.
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But what are they going to do with a place like Malibu?
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I know they said they lost like 1,500 structures, but someone told me that 600 of those were houses.
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And if you're talking about Malibu, Like, when Burr and I were flying around the coastline over by Point Doom, you know, those beautiful...
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Worst fire to hit Malibu with home losses topping $1.6 billion.
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I feel like we don't hear about it so much because I think people assume everyone in Malibu has money.
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They're a higher tax bracket, so they'll figure it out.
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Well, I have friends that don't have a lot of money, but they build houses.
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And one of the houses they were living in and the other house they were building...
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400 single-family houses with an estimated market value of $1.6 billion.
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When you fly over it, because with the helicopter, Burr was pretty close.
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Yeah, we were right above it and circling, just outside, right over the ocean.
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And as you're doing it, flying over the ocean, you're looking at these compounds.
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I mean, these fucking massive, massive compounds burnt to the ground.
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When I saw that picture, I'm like, oh, fuck, man.
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If he told me that he was going to take me up in a helicopter, he knows how to do it.
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You're up in a helicopter with one of the greatest comedians that ever lived.
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And we're talking through headphones because it's like...
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It's weird how close you can get to downtown LA. There's no real restrictions.
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I mean, we were just flying right next to these buildings, and we were the height of the buildings.
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And all those big buildings, see those flat spots in all those buildings?
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And Bill was like, I wouldn't want to land on that fucking thing on a windy day.
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And I'm like, oh my god, I didn't even think about that.
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I think it'd be awesome to get up there and do that.
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But there's no, like, there's no room for error, you know what I'm saying?
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Like, unless you're Harrison Ford, remember he crashed in Santa Monica?
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He flew out of Santa Monica Airport and then was like, ah, fuck, it went down.
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I think when you get that famous, you probably just want to be high all the time because life is a dream anyway.
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I just think there's nothing else to do and he's just like, I don't know, man.
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People are seeing Game of Thrones now for the first time.
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Harrison Ford saved several lives by landing plane on a golf course.
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What is that kind of fucking World War II plane?
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Looking where he crashed and how the plane went down, I'm sure there was a moment where he said, I'm not going to risk lives.
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72-year-old actor suffered moderate injuries after crashing the vehicle.
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A vintage plane that he was piloting on a green golf course Thursday afternoon.
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He had lacerations to his face and possible fractures.
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Television news footage taken showed him on a stretcher being taken into an ambulance.
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He risked life and limb by putting it down on the golf course instead of trying to go further, try to get back to the airport.
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Notice how Harrison Ford, he's not quoted anything.
00:28:14.000
How about we were on the Fox lot, Brian and I were, when we worked for Fox, and this Tesla pulls in, and it's all tinted windows, and it rolled down the window, it's Harrison Ford, and I go, I tell Brian, oh shit, that's fucking Indiana Jones, like joking around, and Brian, I didn't know how big of a Harrison Ford fan is, Brian gets super nervous, and Harrison looks at him, and Brian goes like this.
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I've never seen a grown man give another grown man a peace sign.
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Bro, you just gave deuces to fucking Indiana Jones.
00:29:07.000
Well, no, this is kind of like, yo, not a wave, but this.
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I gotta tell you, man, now I'm thinking I give peace signs to people all the time.
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My kids do the peace sign all the time, but they do sideways.
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They'll do like this hand forward, this hand backward.
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But imagine running up to Harrison Ford and doing that.
00:30:02.000
I wonder what he does with his spare time, other than fly planes.
00:30:06.000
Like, when you make that much money, and you're that famous, and then you just sit around, what do you do?
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I don't know, but there's certain guys at that level, right?
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But I was thinking about last night, when Dave Chappelle walked in, and it was like, you know, you're around, Burr's around, there's some of the greatest comics in the world.
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Then when Dave Chappelle walks in, I wonder if it's weird for him because I can feel the room, like, everyone just stares at him.
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And then he was in the OR, and I was in there before he went on, and there's, I mean...
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I mean, people are in the hallways just watching him do his thing.
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He was up there, I don't know, an hour, two hours, just not really doing a set, just feeling it out.
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I went, man, that must be weird where he's at in life that he just goes up there and everything shuts down for him as a comic.
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Like, all eyes are on him all the time, nonstop.
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Like, even though he's super-duper ridiculous famous, he handles it like he's not.
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But man, when people start grabbing at him and wanting pictures and shit, it's so embarrassing.
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Like, say if you're talking to them, they don't care if you're locked in a conversation about your mom's cancer.
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They just, yo bro, can I get a picture of Dave, Dave Chappelle?
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They just like, this is my time to dress up my Facebook page.
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And they get there with that, and they just, they move in on them like a fucking hawk.
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People don't respect another person having a conversation.
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In their head, if they don't grab them right now, they're never going to get that picture.
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Like, no thought whatsoever for people's space.
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Because there's a certain point of fame with Chappelle, The Rock.
00:32:51.000
You're probably pretty fucking close to that, where you can't even go through the airport.
00:32:54.000
Like, I had to go through the airport one time with Tim Tebow.
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I think right after he won this huge playoff game.
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Does he get on a knee before he gets in the plane?
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And I knew I was safe as fuck next to him, so I didn't give a fuck.
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So going through the airport with him, I felt bad for him.
00:33:19.000
I mean, you're talking, you can't get anywhere.
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There has to be a certain level where that's just not cool, man.
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And then social media because everybody wants a picture.
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Whereas before, I guess people would just want autographs and no one had a camera with them.
00:33:45.000
There might be a few at a show, but when's the last time someone came with you and asked for an autograph?
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The other day, but it's like 100 to 1. Pictures to selfies.
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That motherfucker can't walk through an airport.
00:34:27.000
Like, you bring up LAX or Tom Cruise, like, what the fuck?
00:34:30.000
Well, we flew over his jet when we were with Burr.
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I think his jet has a button that you can press, and then it's all covered in screens, and it turns into the clouds behind it and becomes invisible like the Wonder Woman jet.
00:34:51.000
But don't you think that guy has probably a lot of expenses?
00:34:54.000
I always assume that a guy like that, not only do they have a lot of money, but they burn through a lot of money.
00:35:01.000
Or are we assuming everyone's Johnny Depp and has 19 houses and buying old pirate ships for $30 billion?
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And they're just making horrible life decisions.
00:35:12.000
That's the same thing with athletes or even comics or entertainers.
00:35:17.000
If I post something, let's say I post my car or something like that, like, good luck, bro, in three years when you go broke, I'm like, no, I know the bad stories.
00:35:30.000
No, but there's that stigma of the 30 for 30 ESPN broke.
00:35:36.000
Not all entertainers are fucking rappers where we're just blowing through money.
00:35:41.000
I'm in a business where it's not the UFC where your average career's a year and a half or two years.
00:35:51.000
Well, once you get into the world of podcasting...
00:35:57.000
You know, this is what our art form is, shit people already do.
00:36:06.000
You know, there's no other art form where everybody does it.
00:36:13.000
No, but with- When was the last time you painted?
00:36:18.000
When was the last time you went down to Michael's, got a canvas?
00:36:26.000
There's a lot of painters that don't suck dick, you son of a bitch.
00:36:30.000
But I'm talking about taking time out of my day to paint a flower.
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There's a lot of heterosexual male painters that admire you, that are listening to this right now.
00:36:39.000
They have their paintbrush in their hand right now, and they're like, fuck this guy.
00:36:42.000
I'm going to paint Shaw with a big old dick in his mouth.
00:36:48.000
With podcasts, it's weird, but it's also the gateway to an unfiltered medium where before with TV and movies and stuff like, you know, with like, name any...
00:37:08.000
Well, if you just watch his movies, you don't know shit about him.
00:37:12.000
But you can go on his podcast, you listen to him talk, like, oh, fuck.
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And then you find out we're all the exact same.
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But you'd never get that if there weren't podcasts.
00:37:27.000
You're not going to get that off an ESPN interview.
00:37:34.000
Well, it's also because no one can tell you what to do.
00:37:38.000
You know, you can have conversations that no one can steer.
00:37:42.000
There's no executives gonna come in and stop you.
00:37:46.000
And then if you apologize, it's an apology that you make yourself.
00:38:02.000
I go, and then I'll think about something like with Nowitzki.
00:38:34.000
Like, I go off on something, and then when I talk to you about it, I'm like, I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
00:38:43.000
But when you think about, like, he might have to deal with it in the office.
00:38:48.000
People are like, dude, you hurt Shaab this, or gets DM'd this.
00:38:54.000
Well, you made an error in that you thought that he worked for USADA, and he never worked for USADA. He worked for the UFC. You said he worked for the USADA, and now he works for the UFC. But he never really worked for USADA. He worked for the government.
00:39:07.000
He worked very closely with USADA. He worked for the UFC. He worked for the UFC. He works for the UFC now.
00:39:11.000
No, he coordinated the UFC's meeting with USADA, and he put it all together.
00:39:16.000
He's the vice president of athletes' safety, health and safety, is that what it is?
00:39:28.000
Yes, but he's worked hand-in-hand with USADA. Not as an employee.
00:39:33.000
Right, but he never worked for USADA. No, he's never worked for USADA. I think he was working for the IRS. Pretty sure.
00:39:45.000
I don't know if he's ever got a check from USADA. He's been in cahoots with them.
00:39:53.000
That's when he was investigating Lance Armstrong, right?
00:39:57.000
Every time I talk to Novitski, I get text messages from Lance Armstrong.
00:40:11.000
I think that he did some things that he shouldn't have done.
00:40:14.000
And I'm not even just talking about the steroids.
00:40:16.000
I'm talking about suing the people that came out and said that he took the steroids.
00:40:21.000
Because just doing PEDs and cycling, I don't give a fuck.
00:40:28.000
He still would have been the best of the level playing field.
00:40:31.000
But where he fucked up is he was mean and bullied the people that were trying to snitch on him, or if they weren't into the PEDs, or if they were going to tell on him, he kind of fucked them over.
00:40:41.000
That's where it gets dark, and that's where people hate him.
00:40:45.000
But in his defense, and this is a shaky defense, they went after those people to get to him.
00:40:52.000
They went after those people and they broke those people down and made those people rat on him.
00:40:56.000
And then he was threatening them with lawsuits sort of to protect himself.
00:41:02.000
There was a little bit of a bully culture coming from him.
00:41:15.000
T.J. Dillshaw's a great guy and he fights Saturday.
00:41:21.000
Great guy, but if you say, hey TJ, if you knock him out with a head kick, his family won't eat tonight in order for you to win this fight, he's going to knock you out with a head kick.
00:41:30.000
He's the most ultra-competitive guy in the world.
00:41:34.000
And it shows in training, it shows in practice.
00:41:38.000
Do you know he only weighs 135 pounds right now?
00:41:42.000
But he got his body down to 135 pounds before the weight cut.
00:41:49.000
I saw him on ESPN last night, and they were discussing he might fight Max, or he wants to fight Max next.
00:41:56.000
He wants to fight 145 after this, but that's a 20-pound jump in weight.
00:42:01.000
That's a bad idea, but you never know with TJ. Hey, who knows?
00:42:22.000
Yeah, I don't know if he's going to make the weight.
00:42:30.000
That's why they made him fight at 135 for a while.
00:42:50.000
More than 45. I would say he's more than 45. Dude, he's so short, I don't know.
00:42:58.000
Dude, that's a tough life if you're that short and you're not an Olympic champion.
00:43:03.000
I was looking at him the other day in a video, I'm like, God damn, he's tiny.
00:43:15.000
You know how much money they would pay to have five inches?
00:43:22.000
Dude, you know how crazy you have to be to get your shins extended?
00:43:28.000
And then they put this metal brace all around you, like a halo brace.
00:43:43.000
I was watching this documentary on Chinese guys.
00:43:45.000
This guy was like, he had these braces on his leg and he's like, my girlfriend, she wouldn't marry me because I'm too short, but I'm going to come to her and I'm going to be over five feet tall for the first time.
00:44:04.000
The biggest problem is if you have a short dick.
00:44:08.000
Yeah, but the biggest problem is if you're 4'9", they don't want to see your dick.
00:44:28.000
How unhappy do you have to be with your body to do that?
00:44:30.000
up there nip tuck grow five foot six inch man underwent astonishing leg lengthening procedure because he wanted to be six foot tall oh he started at five six and he got up to six feet tall jeez Jesus!
00:44:48.000
Let me see, the procedure in which both legs are broken, then slowly stretched, bears more than a little resemblance to medieval torture.
00:44:57.000
Let me see what this fucking guy did to his- Oh my god!
00:45:05.000
Well, maybe if you wanted to really play football.
00:45:07.000
The trend for limb lengthening surgery swept China, where minimum heights are often quoted on personal adverts and job advertisements as the country opened up to the West a decade ago.
00:45:22.000
So what we're looking at here, it looks like they cut an inch out of his bone, but then they have this bar that runs through it.
00:45:38.000
How do you think he's going to feel when he's 70?
00:45:52.000
650 leg lengthening procedures in West Palm Beach, Florida.
00:46:00.000
Some of them to remedy deformity, which makes sense.
00:46:03.000
Now, how long do you think it takes for them to fucking recover from something like that?
00:46:10.000
So it's sort of like anorexia with their height.
00:46:13.000
It's one of the few psychiatric disorders that you can actually cure with the knife.
00:46:20.000
Yeah, says the surgeon trying to sell this bullshit.
00:46:36.000
The doctor then implants a state-of-the-art telescopic rod.
00:46:41.000
Into the cartilage of the bone, which then pulls it apart very gradually, one millimeter a day.
00:46:49.000
New living bone grows along it to fill the gap in muscles and nerves.
00:46:58.000
$85,000 takes at least three months to complete.
00:47:11.000
Imagine just walking up that guy and leg kicking him.
00:47:16.000
I bet you his, like, where your leg is vulnerable has changed, right?
00:47:24.000
Like, the geometry of your leg is, like, if your leg is a certain, like, if your bones are a certain width, I would imagine there's like a...
00:47:32.000
Like, it all makes sense pretty much in terms of, like, mathematics.
00:47:36.000
Like, how long your knee is, or how long your femur is, it would be a certain thickness.
00:47:42.000
But then if you spread it out, it's like the thickness of a shorter one, but now it's long, and it's probably more vulnerable.
00:47:50.000
It's the Make Me Taller community I just found.
00:47:54.000
Introduction to leg lengthening and frequently asked questions.
00:48:01.000
Well, that's just FAQ. This one's got 300 posts.
00:48:23.000
There's gotta be some Asians with giant hogs out there.
00:48:36.000
Because there's procedures you can do to cut it, right?
00:48:47.000
The thing is, if it was something that really worked, everybody would know about it.
00:48:58.000
Any room you walked in with a bunch of dudes like, dude, you see that new fucking device?
00:49:04.000
See, devices and dicks, those two words don't go together.
00:49:07.000
Like a device, I think of them like clamps and screws.
00:49:10.000
Do you ever see a penis pump from Austin Powers?
00:49:13.000
I've never seen one in person being used with a blown up dick inside of it.
00:49:17.000
I've never seen it being used, but I've seen one in person.
00:49:23.000
I've heard that some guys, especially old fellas, they use one of them penis pumps to just get hard-ons.
00:49:38.000
When he was banging Matt Damon 24-7, Matt Damon was like, how do you stay hard?
00:49:48.000
That'd be a weird movie to make if you're Matt Damon.
00:49:52.000
There's a scene where, spoiler alert, there's a scene where he's in a Speedo and Michael Douglas is just like laying down in the pool and he straddles him and just full on, ah, ah.
00:50:08.000
If Hollywood came to me and was like, Brennan, we need you to play the new Batman, but you gotta go at it with the Joker, mouth to mouth.
00:50:22.000
Do you think you could live in Las Vegas like that?
00:50:24.000
Do you think you could do a residency in Las Vegas?
00:50:27.000
What if they offered you the big brown boom boom room?
00:50:47.000
I have such a stressful connotation when it comes to Vegas because of fighting.
00:50:53.000
Whenever I think of Vegas, I think of stress, stress, stress.
00:50:56.000
So as soon as I land in Vegas, I get all introverted and I start sweating.
00:51:02.000
I was on the Ultimate Fighter there for eight weeks.
00:51:07.000
So for me, when I think of Vegas, I think of chaos, like stressful, dark chaos.
00:51:19.000
Like, those people who do residency for, like, two years, could you do it?
00:51:26.000
Well, I think the thing about Vegas is you gotta not live in Vegas.
00:51:38.000
I think the move is to live in like Henderson or something like that.
00:51:51.000
See, I would say fuck all that noise, and I'd probably, if they offered me $30 million, I'd probably hire a Bill Burr fucking helicopter pilot type of dude, and I'd live in LA and just fly out there on Fridays.
00:52:07.000
Doesn't Tosh do something like that or used to it when he was going there?
00:52:10.000
He would just fly in like Friday night on a plane, that 25 minute flight it is.
00:52:18.000
They might stay the night, but they'd be back within 36 hours or something like that.
00:52:27.000
That and just in general, it's just not for me.
00:52:31.000
Because Ralphie May had a residency there for a while.
00:52:48.000
It's just, there's a lot of great stuff there, right?
00:53:10.000
I have some great friends who live in Vegas, and some of the best people I know live in Vegas.
00:53:15.000
Some of the best people I know work in the nightclubs.
00:53:18.000
We need to sit down before big events and make a YouTube video where we're just breaking down each event, like, fight by fight as it comes up.
00:53:38.000
If I didn't work for the UFC, I would love to go there and just cover the weigh-ins as a spectator.
00:53:45.000
But as unfiltered, no production, you and me just talking shit.
00:54:01.000
There couldn't be a worse job for me if you asked me to pronounce everyone's names correctly.
00:54:05.000
Some of these Russian cats, their names are off the charts.
00:54:08.000
And it starts with a G and a Z, but you gotta use a Y. Not for me.
00:54:34.000
It was like half the weekends in the year, I was flying somewhere to go to the UFC. But that's when you did international as well.
00:54:43.000
And that was before the UFC really started adding a bunch of people, and it took a lot of the weight off of me.
00:54:54.000
I think he's really good, but sometimes it's just not a fit.
00:54:58.000
I didn't find him, and maybe he didn't get his fair shot.
00:55:01.000
I think he's one of the best commentators in the world.
00:55:07.000
He's brilliant at his job, but it never felt right to me.
00:55:13.000
It was like watching Joe Montana play for the Chiefs.
00:55:22.000
I think he's going to go on since whoever finds him can be lucky.
00:55:25.000
But the writing was on the wall because you would see DC who's amazing.
00:55:33.000
It's like, well, of course Jimmy's not going to have a job.
00:55:43.000
I wonder if he could do play-by-play, you know, like the ones that Anik doesn't want to do.
00:55:57.000
John knows I love them, but I see them at Brazil, and then he'll post, like, two days of sleep, you know, been on the road 19 days in a row.
00:56:10.000
There's not a better commentating team in the history of combat sports when it's you, DC, and John Anik.
00:56:18.000
DC's himself, and he's one of the best fighters of all time.
00:56:32.000
Like, when Rose knocked out Ioannion Jacek, he's like, Thug Rose!
00:56:49.000
Yeah, well, that's why everybody kind of wants him to retire.
00:56:52.000
You know, that's why I think his family's kind of pushing for him to retire.
00:56:56.000
Crazy Bob Cook, he's like, I'd be happy if he retired right now.
00:56:59.000
And I don't think the UFC's going to let him retire without facing Jon Jones, the heavyweight division.
00:57:10.000
Because when you sit down, and you sit down and make a deal with the devil, and they're like, yeah, you're thinking about retiring?
00:57:16.000
We're going to pay you this much to fight this monster.
00:57:23.000
And they're going to push that piece of paper across.
00:57:25.000
Dan's going to go, you're thinking about retiring?
00:57:31.000
We're talking about two million pay-per-view buys, and this is what you would get.
00:57:52.000
Let's say after taxes, $10 million in the bank.
00:58:04.000
Louis C.K. has a joke in his newest set about buying a gold watch.
00:58:29.000
$10 million, I'd be set with my investments, stuff like that, buy property.
00:58:41.000
Have you ever thought about, have you ever put a number where if I get here I can chill out on, like I don't need to do, I have 17 podcasts.
00:58:50.000
I don't need to do nine sets a week at, you know, the comedy store and improv.
00:58:55.000
I know, but if I want to get 100%, if I want to get good at podcasts, I need to do that.
00:59:00.000
But there has to be some material level financially where I can get to where I can, all right, I can chill out on this, but I'm not built that way.
00:59:09.000
Every morning I wake up like, ah, fuck, man, we better get going.
00:59:13.000
I don't think about retiring because I like what I do.
00:59:18.000
I don't think like, oh, I need to have X amount of money in the bank, so I'm not going to do this very much longer.
00:59:24.000
I'm saying maybe cut back on all the shit you do.
00:59:31.000
I think being active keeps me from losing my marbles.
00:59:36.000
Just around the house, just all in with my demons.
00:59:57.000
Sort of one of the patterns that I've picked up my whole life is that I find things that I like to do and I do them as much as I can.
01:00:07.000
I mean, I have so many different things, whether it's archery or martial arts.
01:00:17.000
See, but everything you're talking about, what you're good about, too, though, is you're doing that with friends.
01:00:22.000
Some of your friends are the best in the world at those things you just mentioned.
01:00:27.000
Well, yeah, if you were alone with no friends, that shit is very depressing.
01:00:32.000
My brother goes on the road to me all the time.
01:00:36.000
And when he's not with me and I'm in that room all by myself for like three or four days, I'm like, oh, I'm not happy, man.
01:00:45.000
It's probably something I need to talk to someone about, but I don't know.
01:00:48.000
That is a depressing thing when you're alone on the road.
01:00:51.000
I used to do those gigs on the road with no opening act.
01:00:57.000
And I would work with a local guy, and it was just not fun.
01:01:05.000
And you know, I like everybody, but I'm all set on friends, so if you're not in my group, I don't want to spend time.
01:01:25.000
If you didn't have to work ever again, what would you do with your time?
01:01:29.000
What if, say, you hit the lottery, you won $500 million, you never have to work again?
01:01:57.000
Because other people get to respond to how ridiculous he is.
01:02:03.000
Half the fun is people going, what the fuck are you talking about?
01:02:09.000
Me and him talked about doing it for a long time, doing the King of the Sting, a long time.
01:02:13.000
We even made an announcement, and then months later, just because he's a busy guy, I'm a busy guy, and it's like, we don't need to do this.
01:02:24.000
He says I look like I got stung by a bunch of bees because I'm like swollen.
01:02:28.000
I said it looks like he, you know, keeps rats or something like that.
01:02:32.000
So I called him the rat king and then just stuck.
01:02:47.000
I don't know why, but every month, it builds, builds, builds.
01:02:50.000
Me and Cal are doing great, but there's the Rat King.
01:02:56.000
Dude, we have a segment on the show called Flaunt My Aunt, and people send in pictures of their ants, and we roast them.
01:03:14.000
Some girl sent a picture of her uncle, and she's like, yo, talk about my uncle.
01:03:20.000
He always tries to be positive, and I take it down a weird road, but it's great.
01:03:24.000
Someone sent a picture of their aunt from the 1950s.
01:03:29.000
Our producer, Chin, showed his aunt, and she was hot as fuck.
01:03:46.000
Is it in the same complex where you do Fighter and the Kid?
01:03:49.000
No, so it's in Santa Monica and it's the company that produced called Malka and they do all my Showtime stuff.
01:04:03.000
We want to make it as easy as possible because you have all these shows.
01:04:08.000
So they just, at a very much smaller scale than this, basically did like a Joe Rogan style where they built me a set where it's kind of like my Fantasyland.
01:04:15.000
So I have all my Below the Showtime stuff there.
01:04:23.000
I'm like, all right, well, we're not huge Charlie Brown fans.
01:04:36.000
I was going to say, last night, you were dressed, and you dressed up, man.
01:04:46.000
I looked at Brian and said, fuck, look at Rogan with the swaggy tonight.
01:05:01.000
Theo wears those pants with rubber bands on the bottom of them.
01:05:22.000
They taper down the bottom and then there's elastic that holds him up like six inches away from his shoe.
01:05:30.000
Then he wears weird shoes and then he'll wear like Nike shoes with Reebok socks.
01:05:42.000
I had a pair of Converse with a pair of Adidas socks.
01:05:45.000
And I was thinking about it before I left, and I'm like, no one's gonna know.
01:05:48.000
Oh, if I, dude, Jamie, do you come from the same, like, if you did that at my school, you wouldn't have got out alive by fifth period.
01:06:05.000
Yeah, it was like an early 90s thing, I remember.
01:06:13.000
And what Theo and I tried to do is something completely different.
01:06:23.000
King or Sting It, and it's all fan submissions.
01:06:25.000
So people upload videos, go, yo, Burger King or McDonald's?
01:06:28.000
I mean, him debate McDonald's, Burger King, or Flauntmont, send your picture.
01:06:32.000
Do you have a preference between Burger King and McDonald's?
01:06:37.000
Well, I didn't say either one's healthy, but they're fucking...
01:06:44.000
You have to choose between Wendy's and Burger King right next to each other.
01:06:54.000
Dude, they're square patties, you ice as fucks.
01:07:09.000
You should have been a gay guy in another life.
01:07:14.000
You're the straightest fashion conscious guy I know.
01:07:20.000
You're really into looks and fashion and trends and stuff.
01:07:25.000
You're the only guy that I know that does that.
01:07:26.000
I've had my outfit picked up for my special Saturday for three weeks now.
01:07:34.000
You should have a tiger come out in a cage like Cat Williams.
01:07:40.000
Have a fur coat and have some chicks take the fur coat off you when you get on stage.
01:07:53.000
When they sit there, they're like, alright, that'll work.
01:08:00.000
So the same night that you are doing your Showtime special, TJ Dillashaw is fighting Henry Cejudo.
01:08:08.000
It's the first card ever for ESPN+. Yeah, ESPN+. So it's a streaming thing.
01:08:15.000
You watch Cowboy Cerrone, though, on regular ESPN. Oh, okay.
01:08:19.000
He's the main event on the regular ESPN. So it's weird because the prelims are on the digital device.
01:08:25.000
Then it goes regular ESPN for the Donald Cerrone fight.
01:08:31.000
It's going to take a little while for people to get used to that.
01:08:35.000
My friend Brian Stevens, he lives in rural Texas outside of Dallas.
01:08:39.000
And he's bummed out because his internet's not that fast.
01:08:43.000
It's like, you know, in certain places, you can't get fast internet.
01:09:07.000
It took four months for us to get legit internet at the old place.
01:09:12.000
We were in the Canoga Park area, which has all these businesses.
01:09:21.000
It's a grind to get legit internet in some spots.
01:09:27.000
They used to be able to watch all the good fights on regular TV. So here we go.
01:09:37.000
Gregor Gillespie is, that guy is a fucking beast.
01:09:41.000
Minus 550. You look at it, yeah, he's an overwhelming favorite.
01:10:33.000
You know how they have, like, the athletes, the performance center where the athletes get to go?
01:10:40.000
Like, Gregor the Gift Gillespie, that's a good name.
01:10:57.000
They did fight before, and Benavidez won, right?
01:11:22.000
Like, early on, but this is a big step up for him.
01:11:25.000
Clover's getting a little long in the tooth, yeah?
01:11:27.000
A lot long in the tooth, but he's still tough as shit.
01:11:30.000
If that goes to the ground, it could get dicey.
01:11:34.000
And then the next one, boys, get your dicks out.
01:11:42.000
They're better looking than the ring card girls.
01:11:52.000
She's so beautiful, but her body is so ridiculous.
01:12:16.000
Some girl who works for the girlfriend of the web designers.
01:12:23.000
I'm 45, but she's 55. Yeah, she's easy on the ice, too.
01:12:32.000
It's crazy, though, that Ostevich coming off of that domestic violence thing.
01:12:40.000
It's her husband saying he's going to kill her.
01:12:45.000
If you need security, Rachel, I am here for you.
01:12:54.000
But to put her on the card with Greg Hardy, that was a giant, a lot of people criticizing that.
01:13:02.000
Well, the thing is that Greg Hardy was on the card.
01:13:06.000
The card was set before she got assaulted by her husband.
01:13:13.000
They pulled her from the card when they thought that she had a broken orbital bone.
01:13:38.000
It's hard not to root for her husband hits her beats her up.
01:13:41.000
It's it's awful and she's like I'm not gonna let this guy Stop my career.
01:13:46.000
I'm not gonna let this guy change the path of my life.
01:13:48.000
I'm done with him I want to fight and she begged them to let her fight and I'm just saying if I'm the UFC I go, alright, Greg Hardy, he's not a big drawl.
01:14:00.000
Let's just move him to any other fucking card we have.
01:14:05.000
No one's tuned in just, and it's not a big deal.
01:14:14.000
I think any sort of press, and they live and die by this, negative press is good press.
01:14:18.000
With the Jon Jones thing, they don't give a fuck.
01:14:22.000
They kept showing him throwing the dolly at the bus.
01:14:25.000
They kept showing it over and over again in the promos.
01:14:36.000
This one's a little different, like throwing a dolly through the window with other professional fighters.
01:14:47.000
Well, it's not like Ostovich is fighting her boyfriend or husband.
01:15:17.000
Cowboy being cowboy, just taking random-ass fights.
01:15:20.000
Yeah, well this is Hernandez's first fight in the big leagues.
01:15:49.000
But Darius is a motherfucker and he starched him.
01:15:53.000
Yeah, he starts Dariush and he beat Aubin-Mercier.
01:15:59.000
But the way he beat Dariush, I was like, holy shit.
01:16:11.000
He views this cowboy fight as the breakout opportunity for him.
01:16:16.000
Yeah, he's got real future championship potential.
01:16:20.000
He's one of those guys you look at, you go, let's see.
01:16:24.000
And with Cowboy, it's just like, makes zero sense in the world, but Cowboy just wants to stay active.
01:16:36.000
I mean, if you look at his last fight against Perry, he's still fighting smooth and smart.
01:16:52.000
That might be one of the fights that I'm most curious about.
01:17:01.000
And I've seen this kid since he walked in the gym at 13, Corey Sandhagen.
01:17:06.000
He came into Aurora High Altitude when I was fighting, and he was a basketball player in high school.
01:17:16.000
He's supposed to fight John Lineker, but John got hurt.
01:17:22.000
5'11", 135. That's a tall gentleman for that weight class.
01:17:39.000
You'll see how fluid his movement is and how unorthodox he is.
01:17:44.000
The one downfall might be his wrestling, but he's fucking good, man.
01:17:48.000
Yeah, it's a fun time right now for up-and-coming talent.
01:17:54.000
As far as combat sports, including boxing and MMA, and the business we're in, there couldn't be a better time.
01:18:12.000
It's never going to just blow up these other sports.
01:18:20.000
That's the one thing that I think is missing, is kickboxing blowing up.
01:18:24.000
Again, I love combat sports, but I'm not going to jump to my couch to watch kickboxing or jiu-jitsu.
01:18:40.000
Didn't we go to see Joe Schilling fight together?
01:18:45.000
Oh, speaking of that, Coker texted me last night.
01:19:02.000
I feel like we should go to see Fedor fight live.
01:19:06.000
Me too, because especially if he loses, it's probably the last time.
01:19:08.000
Well, it's just the opportunity to see if there's five all-time greatest fighters in history, he's on that list.
01:19:21.000
And then I worked at the Bellator when he fought Mitrione.
01:19:27.000
God, he's so tall for 35. He looks like a vegan.
01:19:46.000
He gets in trouble, and you think he's submitted.
01:20:44.000
He's actually doing very good with his defense.
01:21:11.000
When you do all that and he's still there, look at him beating his ass.
01:21:16.000
And you realize, oh my god, I should have tried to choke him.
01:21:28.000
The thing about arm bars is you can let your arm snap.
01:21:34.000
There's some crazy savages out there that will let you break their arm.
01:21:38.000
But when you get put to sleep, you get put to sleep.
01:21:41.000
Yeah, your triangle better be fucking good, especially this day.
01:21:44.000
When's the last time I saw a guy get a triangle besides fucking Brian Ortega?
01:21:47.000
Like, the triangle better be goddamn good, man.
01:21:49.000
Guys are so good with their defense with triangles these days.
01:21:57.000
Right, but it's like, whose triangle is that good?
01:22:05.000
Ortega's probably the best in the UFC. He's the best.
01:22:10.000
People have seen him in the Max Holloway fight.
01:22:14.000
If you've only seen him fight in that fight, God, you've got to go back and watch him.
01:22:30.000
Again, came into the gym, basketball player, no experience.
01:22:37.000
Yeah, but see, the 13-year-olds, they just learn shit.
01:22:40.000
Yeah, just think about 13, walk in the gym, and you have this work ethic from basketball, and you're like, oh, I'll try this stuff out.
01:22:46.000
And you walk in the gym, you've got Christian Allen, who's a ninja, and And then he just downloads all his experience into you.
01:22:55.000
And he was going to be an underdog against John Lineker.
01:23:19.000
He's exhausted from trying to blow out his goddamn shoulder.
01:23:25.000
It's almost like he's confused that the guy's still there and that he's pounding on him now.
01:24:00.000
This is on ESPN+. So it goes ESPN +, then you gotta jump to regular ESPN to watch Cowboy, then you gotta jump back to the digital platform to watch the rest of the card.
01:24:20.000
I'm saying it goes app, regular TV to watch cowboy.
01:24:24.000
No, I know, but you can watch ESPN normal on the app, I believe.
01:24:30.000
I was listening to Luke Thomas was talking about it.
01:24:36.000
Can you do it through Apple TV? Should be able to.
01:24:45.000
Dude, how about fucking Cain Velasquez versus Francis Ngana?
01:24:54.000
It's a great fight for Kane if he gets that guy to the ground.
01:25:00.000
Anytime I see Francis fighting, I'm nervous for his opponent.
01:25:08.000
You weren't nervous in the Derrick Lewis fight?
01:25:11.000
I thought if he fought the way he always fights, that would be a crazy fight.
01:25:14.000
But he was so nervous from that fight, from the Stipe fight, that he just did not.
01:25:22.000
Well, and Derrick Rose had a hurt back, so he got a complete shit show out of two knockout artists.
01:25:28.000
I just think that Kane's been out for a long time.
01:25:36.000
I think he's the best in terms of physical ability.
01:25:41.000
You think he's the best heavyweight of all time?
01:25:46.000
I don't think he's the best in terms of what he's accomplished.
01:25:48.000
I think Fedor's the best heavyweight of all time in terms of what he's accomplished.
01:25:52.000
Maybe you can make the argument for Fabrizio Verdum because Verdum beat him.
01:25:57.000
But I think Verdum beat a Fedor that had already been through the ringer and pride and all the chaos over there.
01:26:03.000
I mean, he had been in those wars with fucking Krokop.
01:26:06.000
But Verdun beat him when it was still the aura of Fedor.
01:26:09.000
He was the first one where you realize he was human.
01:26:12.000
Because Brett Rogers kind of took a little bit out of that.
01:26:17.000
He KO'd him, but before that he had trouble with him.
01:26:24.000
He did a crow-cop, like, I mean, a crow-hop fucking punch.
01:26:28.000
Yeah, leaped and fucking hit him with that right hand.
01:26:34.000
It's tough to say greatest of all time because it's the greatest of that time period.
01:26:38.000
Because when he was doing it, there were specialists that he was great.
01:26:44.000
Because if you put his skill set with his frame now into the the pool I don't know if he's the best but then Kane at his time when there's JDS and he's in his prime Brock Lesnar He's beating those guys what Kane would do to people he would overwhelm you in a way that look like you were drowning and His cardio and pace was insane.
01:27:05.000
Like, the Junior Dos Santos fights, I think, took so much out of Junior.
01:27:09.000
I think it took it both of them paid the price for that.
01:27:12.000
It was the same thing as, I was listening to, who's the boxer you just had on?
01:27:18.000
How you're saying he doesn't watch the rematch with Canelo, Triple G, because it takes so much out of those guys that they're never the same.
01:27:25.000
I'm usually on the same thinking path as that, where I'm like, God, if those guys go out again, man, we're never going to get a good product.
01:27:45.000
I mean, JDS has had some wards, and Stipe has had some wards.
01:27:48.000
And you can tell that they're just different in life.
01:27:51.000
I'm not saying it's brain trauma or whatever it is, but they're just different.
01:27:55.000
They leave a piece of themselves in that octagon.
01:28:03.000
They leave a little piece of him in there for our entertainment, and I feel a little guilty about that.
01:28:12.000
Stipe, the most accomplished heavyweight of all time.
01:28:15.000
He's the greatest in terms of his accomplishments.
01:28:21.000
He didn't fight the best guys in their prime when he fought Junior.
01:28:29.000
But again, when it was his run during his era, Stipe's the best.
01:28:33.000
When it was Kane during his era, he was the best.
01:28:37.000
It's hard to say this guy's better than this guy because it's just a different time period.
01:28:54.000
It's like, why is there no talk about him fighting again?
01:29:01.000
Like, he even tweeted, he goes, DC, before I retire, let's do it, man.
01:29:06.000
Well, he's being really active on social media, but it doesn't seem like there's a lot of interest.
01:29:16.000
Stipe's a firefighter, humble, blue-collar dude.
01:29:19.000
He's going to put in work, comes to fight all the time.
01:29:22.000
So Derek Lewis explains turning down Stipe fight.
01:29:41.000
So they were trying to get him for the UFC's Brooklyn card this weekend.
01:29:49.000
When you go D.C., then Stipe, there couldn't be two worse matchups for him.
01:30:01.000
I'm trying to make cash, man, so that'd be the best way to do it.
01:30:04.000
But if he's not healthy, let's give me an ass-whooping from Stipe.
01:30:11.000
But even Francis connected with Stipe and Stipe did not give a fuck.
01:30:17.000
Yeah, he's tough as shit, which is more incredible even that DC took him out.
01:30:21.000
So them offering Stipe Black Beast, you can tell they're not even thinking DC-Stipe rematch.
01:30:36.000
I would be willing to bet DC's last fight is that heavyweight.
01:30:51.000
Hey, Nowitzki, go get a cup of coffee when Brock fights.
01:30:56.000
When you talk about Jon Jones DC, I mean, no one's even talking about Brock.
01:31:10.000
And I think DC at heavyweight fighting Jon, the gap narrows.
01:31:18.000
At heavyweight though, I think that's why John's kind of like, I'll fight him, it has to be at light heavyweight.
01:31:22.000
Because DC does have some advantages at heavyweight now.
01:31:25.000
But let's look at what they've done with TJ Dillashaw dropping him down to flyweight.
01:31:31.000
Why can't DC do the same thing when he gets down to light heavyweight?
01:31:38.000
Well, he struggles so hard to get down to light heavyweight that it fucks with his cardio, his conditioning.
01:31:45.000
He feels so much stronger at heavyweight because he doesn't have to go through that weight cut.
01:31:58.000
Now, when he's at heavyweight, he doesn't diminish himself.
01:32:02.000
Because sometimes, like a Fedor or a Roy Nelson...
01:32:07.000
If you make those guys shredded, that's not in their DNA. They're not ectomorphs.
01:32:12.000
But because we see guys like Francis Ngano, we assume that's...
01:32:21.000
I think a mesomorph is what you're thinking of.
01:32:29.000
I think for DC, being shredded, his body doesn't function off that well.
01:32:33.000
He doesn't have to be shredded, but he's carrying around so much extra weight.
01:32:44.000
He starched Stipe, who he just connected with a beautiful shot in the clinch.
01:32:49.000
I think what's going on at heavyweight with DC is he's not weakened.
01:32:53.000
Let him eat whatever the fuck he wants and he's not weakened.
01:32:58.000
And I think when he gets down to light heavyweight, I think he's weakened.
01:33:02.000
But I wonder how much they could mitigate that with great diet and planning it out the same way Kalavita's done to TJ. TJ's a smaller guy naturally and leaner.
01:33:15.000
But still, they leaned him out further to get him down to 135 pounds before the weight cut.
01:33:29.000
Maybe, but I think everyone benefits from scientific planning, meal planning, real analysis of your calories in, calories out, nutrients.
01:33:42.000
I bet he does that to some degree, but some guys I think do better for a guy like DC where he's just that extra fat and that's his thing.
01:33:53.000
If they do fight, I hope the first fight is at heavyweight.
01:33:58.000
Because they've talked about doing it at light heavyweight.
01:34:03.000
Well, John wants it at light heavyweight so that it never has to appear that he picked up a title when they took it away from the champ and they didn't earn it from the champ.
01:34:13.000
And I get that, but how great would it be if you're John, where most people clearly know he beat DC, then you go to heavyweight and take that from him?
01:34:23.000
But I also think DC's a different animal at heavyweight, and his power's different, and John does get hit, and DC at heavyweight could land some shit.
01:34:36.000
But it's also like they get so emotional with each other.
01:35:07.000
Dana's going to make an offer they can't refuse.
01:35:21.000
He said his 40th birthday he's going to retire.
01:35:26.000
That's why Stipe tweeted him and was like, dude, let's do this before you get out.
01:35:30.000
This is from a promo for the wrestling event this week, because he's in Royal Rumble at the end of the month.
01:35:39.000
Well, if it's current him, he ain't passing any tests.
01:35:49.000
Well, he's definitely a freak, but is he physically the same?
01:36:13.000
He looks like every bully of all time in high school, but he's actually a nice guy.
01:36:28.000
When Brock, they were in between camp and Brock had his daughter in his hand and people saw him and went to grab him and take pictures and he's holding his daughter and they grabbed the hand and he's holding his daughter and he just went off on this dude.
01:36:42.000
But I guess this fan was like, oh my God, Brock Lesnar.
01:36:44.000
And he's like, I'm with my kids, man, don't bother me.
01:36:46.000
And some dude was like, no, let's do a picture and grabs him and he's holding his daughter and it just went.
01:36:51.000
He just was like, what the fuck are you doing, man?
01:36:54.000
Grabbed his arm while he was holding his daughter.
01:37:07.000
People want what they want and they don't care.
01:37:15.000
I think he definitely wants to get back in there again.
01:37:17.000
I mean, I think he has some fights in his mind that he would like to get back.
01:37:33.000
That's just my reference for fucking steroids now.
01:37:41.000
You want some skeptical hippo eyes for your boy Nowitzki?
01:37:45.000
How about the test results for Lesnar showed up, then went away on their website?
01:37:50.000
And they're like, oh, it's just a random mistake.
01:38:07.000
If you think USADA's the end-all, be-all, you have your goddamn mind.
01:38:10.000
USADA says, technical issues caused online block Brock Lesnar drug test number discrepancy.
01:38:19.000
So let's just assume Brock, I don't know, has he had a needle in his ass?
01:38:28.000
Well, he tested positive in the Mark Hunt fight.
01:38:35.000
Mark's suing the UFC. He's still legal action with that.
01:38:39.000
And he's not in the UFC. His contract's up with the UFC, so it's going to probably get even gnarlier now.
01:38:47.000
So, Brock Lesnar, we know, steroid user, his test just doesn't show up.
01:38:54.000
John Jones, greatest fighter of all time, USADA issues, picograms.
01:39:01.000
The John Jones-USADA thing, they tested him positive.
01:39:08.000
By the way, he did test negative after the fight, even for the metabolites.
01:39:19.000
What he tested positive for is a metabolite for this steroid.
01:39:25.000
Which, and after the fight, there was nothing, correct?
01:39:29.000
Because the numbers, what they're saying is that what his body has in it is a response to this steroid.
01:39:37.000
It's not like they're detecting, like, Anivar in his system.
01:39:45.000
What they're detecting is the body responding to the fact that this steroid had been in his system.
01:40:26.000
When you say all these issues, you mean steroid issues.
01:40:31.000
I don't mean to cut you off, but the first one being the excuse of the dick pills.
01:40:44.000
What they found were the precursors that can be found in dick pills.
01:40:51.000
So the thing that he flagged for, those do show up in dick pills.
01:40:58.000
Right, but he got them the dick pills that he took and they had it in them.
01:41:08.000
Listen, in the amount that he had in his system...
01:41:12.000
What they're saying is the only way that could exist is through a tainted supplement.
01:41:17.000
The way they tested him before, the way they tested him after, the small window of time where he was positive for that thing, there'd be no performance-enhancing benefit for him to take something in a micro-dose or whatever, and that it's in such a small amount that it had to be a tainted supplement.
01:41:33.000
They got them the actual supplement that he took, the dick pill supplement.
01:41:40.000
This is not like a steroid that he took where it made him a better fighter or made him a better athlete.
01:41:46.000
So, to play devil's advocate here, so that stuff that comes in those dick pills, you can get from other steroids.
01:41:55.000
But that's one narrative that, to clear that, you could say, well, it's in these dick pills.
01:42:04.000
And it wasn't in his body before, and it wasn't in his body after, which showed that it was only in his body in extremely small amounts for a small window of time.
01:42:16.000
It's not even like this stuff, which is a metabolite, which is showing a response to the body, the body responding to the steroids.
01:42:26.000
Why does no other fighter have any picograms at this pulsating effect, really?
01:42:40.000
But Frank Mir didn't go through the same steps that Jon Jones did.
01:42:50.000
There was something that John did also that lowered his sentencing.
01:43:14.000
If I agreed to USADA to be an informant of an undercover snitch...
01:43:22.000
Unless you're John, then no one can beat you up, so you're fine.
01:43:27.000
The only way I can inform you is of something that I know of.
01:43:37.000
I was like, if he didn't do anything wrong, what is he going to offer?
01:43:46.000
Like, if I'm an informant for the FBI or for the feds for cocaine, I know my cocaine.
01:43:52.000
They're not going to get Joe Blow that makes my fucking espresso.
01:43:55.000
They're going to get the guy who knows the in and outs of cocaine.
01:44:01.000
Or they have a conversation with him and he says he can provide them with information on how guys are getting away with passing drug tests.
01:44:09.000
And how would you know about that unless you're in on that?
01:44:12.000
I'm just saying, again, to me, all of it is a little too much of coincidence that the best fighter on the planet Earth has these issues.
01:44:19.000
The best fighter on the planet Earth also ran away from a hit-and-run, smashed into a girl and broke her arm.
01:44:27.000
He's a reckless person who takes a lot of chances, and he does some, at least in the past, has done some things that are not very wise.
01:44:43.000
Or a guy who is that loosey-goosey outside the octagon might have taken some performance-enhancing things because that would be the similar traits.
01:44:53.000
Could have, except in this situation, it doesn't line up with the facts of what he took in terms of long-term metabolites, short-term metabolites, and medium-term metabolites.
01:45:03.000
The only long-term metabolites existed, which means that whatever he took, he had to have taken a long time ago.
01:45:10.000
Now, the problem with this is, this all comes from that guy, Gregory Rechenkov, is that how you say his name?
01:45:19.000
What I'm talking about is the study that shows these metabolites is all from this one individual, this guy, Grigory Rechenkov, who was the man from that documentary Icarus, who used to work for the Russian state-sponsored doping program.
01:45:34.000
He's the one who established these tests, and the way he established these tests is very highly criticized by people.
01:45:43.000
Well, it's not suspect, but it's criticized by people because he injected himself and tested all his metabolites on himself.
01:45:51.000
And this has not been done on any peer-reviewed tests outside of his research.
01:45:58.000
The problem is it's not legal to perform these sort of tests on people in America.
01:46:03.000
You can't just shoot people up with illegal steroids in America and find out what it does to them.
01:46:09.000
I told him to get Sean Shelby, whack him up with a bunch of steroids, and Sean's down for it.
01:46:17.000
Or just do it to Vitor Belfort, wherever he's fighting.
01:46:20.000
Just tell him, look, Vitor, we got an extra couple hundred grand for you on the side.
01:46:40.000
But again, for me, and this is just me, it's too much of a coincidence for it to raise some red flags for me.
01:46:47.000
I talked to two independent scientists outside of Nowitzki where I was sending guys information.
01:47:00.000
Initially, after reviewing all the stuff, decided that it doesn't seem like it's likely that it could be possible that he could have actually cheated.
01:47:10.000
More likely that the actual, the tainted supplement excuse is...
01:47:16.000
And by the way, the tainted supplement, I'm using the air quotes supplement, was never provided.
01:47:23.000
So, unless they did it to USADA and USADA didn't want to release it, the number one...
01:47:30.000
Question was, was it cocaine that was tainted with creatine?
01:47:37.000
Because it's really, according to Nowitzki, when he was working for the government, that would be a really common thing.
01:47:51.000
So they would always mix in cheap creatine with cocaine to make more coke.
01:48:12.000
I think we know as much as we're going to know.
01:48:16.000
Once John retires and is like, I had a doctor, and he would stick it in my fingernails and slowly release.
01:48:30.000
It would tarnish your legacy, unless it's like an MLB thing.
01:48:34.000
But so many people were quick to jump on the he's a cheater bandwagon.
01:48:50.000
I don't think that when you Sada and Nowitzki go, it's all good, man.
01:49:07.000
I think it's okay to go, God, it's just, I don't know, man.
01:49:12.000
What it's not okay to do is to say, he was cheating, he's busted, he has this stuff in his system.
01:49:21.000
Well, no, it's fine to say why does he have this stuff in the system.
01:49:25.000
Right, but they showed why he had it in the system.
01:49:27.000
Yeah, but it doesn't mean you should have it in your system.
01:49:28.000
No, you definitely shouldn't have it in your system.
01:49:31.000
No, so it's okay to go, why the fuck is in the best fire in the world system?
01:49:37.000
Do you think that there's some shit that's going on right now that they haven't figured out yet that's going to be revealed?
01:49:45.000
The drugs and that underworld is always ahead of the testing.
01:49:51.000
That's what Nowitzki said at first, but now he thinks it's reached this point where the testing is so good.
01:49:59.000
Do you know the testing threshold that he tested positive for, for the picograms, is 2,000 to 5,000 times stronger than the WADA threshold?
01:50:11.000
So he would have 2,000 to 5,000 times more of it in his system.
01:50:24.000
But an insane amount of much higher quantities of this shit for him to test positive in WADA. Like, these tests that they use now are insane.
01:50:40.000
Well, the thing is, like, if it's so low, you're not going to have a performance-enhancing benefit.
01:50:44.000
It has to actually be in your system in order to have a performance-enhancing benefit.
01:50:49.000
But now, in 2019, they're actually considering lowering their standards so that, say, if you do take some creatine and it does have the tiniest trace amount of Osterene or something like that, that's not going to show up positive anymore.
01:51:06.000
Because it's so strict now where it's tainting guys' legacy.
01:51:11.000
Josh Barnett's another one where they eventually cleared him.
01:51:18.000
And then on top of that, everybody knew that he was under suspicion.
01:51:23.000
So everybody assumed that he was doing something.
01:51:26.000
Nowitzki told me that the testing is so good now that if you and I were in this room...
01:51:30.000
And I had a jar of creatine that had steroids in it.
01:51:34.000
And I popped it open and the fucking dust got in the air.
01:51:44.000
But I think there's an Elon Musk of steroid PEDs out there who's like, yeah, cool, man.
01:51:51.000
I bet he's got a lot of Y's and Z's in his name.
01:52:11.000
Well, the whole Russian anti-doping program was horseshit.
01:52:17.000
And the fact that they had rigged the Sochi Olympics so that they got fake piss.
01:52:22.000
And you think they're the only country doing that?
01:52:31.000
And I think it's funny how people are like, this is ridiculous.
01:52:38.000
Let's say John did do some legal shit that we don't know of and he got away.
01:52:49.000
NFL, NBA, NHL, especially fighting, it's just, that's the nature of the beast.
01:52:54.000
Well, it's certainly a nature, I mean, it's definitely a part of sports.
01:52:57.000
It's definitely a part of sports because it works.
01:52:59.000
You know what's interesting is like, why is it okay to take regular creatine?
01:53:03.000
Regular creatine works probably as good as microdosing any of this bullshit works.
01:53:09.000
I think there's some microdosing shit out there that the NFL guys can get their hands on or MLB that you're like, God damn.
01:53:16.000
Well, they say that microdosing actual testosterone is more effective because microdosing actual testosterone doesn't produce any random weird metabolites.
01:53:28.000
He had like the form of gummy bears where right before he'd bat, he'd like pop this gummy bear and just be like, home run.
01:53:33.000
And then by the time he tests him after the game, he's good.
01:53:38.000
How much did they take away from him after that?
01:53:44.000
Were you with me in Vegas this time we had Strip Steakhouse?
01:53:47.000
And A-Rod was there, and he was like, two smoke shows, and no one, like everyone was like, look at that fucking guy.
01:54:09.000
Like, that was the thing with Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa.
01:54:12.000
I hate to tell you, the guys pitching the balls to them, also juiced to the gills.
01:54:16.000
He fucked with Sammy Sosa so much, he turned himself into a white guy.
01:54:23.000
Not working, because he sticks out even more now.
01:54:28.000
No, he does interviews, but just assumes, like, it's all good.
01:54:31.000
Yeah, he's, like, dressing up like the planter peanuts, man.
01:54:35.000
And then when someone brings it up, he's like, what?
01:54:45.000
Like, no, I know, but what the fuck are you doing?
01:54:50.000
Do you think he has spots on his back that he can't reach?
01:54:53.000
She's like, dude, we can't have these fucking spots like your goddamn Dalimation.
01:54:59.000
There's no way all his dick wrinkles aren't black.
01:55:07.000
To get all the nooks and crannies of the dick, you have to.
01:55:12.000
Imagine if you have a black hole for an asshole.
01:55:24.000
He doesn't look bad there, but it looks like he's wearing makeup, if I'm going to be honest.
01:55:31.000
It looks weird because, you know what, like the inside of his eyelids...
01:55:39.000
Because you can't really get the whitening cream.
01:55:46.000
Well, if he was a regular guy and that's what he looked like, that'd be normal.
01:56:14.000
How hard were we howling at Joey Diaz's story the other night at the comedy story?
01:56:40.000
He's talking about how he's eating, this isn't a bit, right?
01:56:43.000
He's eating sauerkraut and farting on the plane, and Lauryn Hill was like, what the fuck, man?
01:56:52.000
I'm telling you, the next morning I woke up, I'm like, did I get punched in the ribs?
01:56:56.000
I texted her, I'm like, dude, your story fucked my ribs up last night.
01:57:01.000
I had to run away from him before, because I wouldn't have been able to think about my material.
01:57:05.000
I wouldn't have been able to think about what he was talking about.
01:57:36.000
I'm running my one hour at Flappers in Burbank the night before on Friday.