The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #62 with Brendan Schaub

00:00:00.000 Let's go live.

00:00:02.000 Five, four, three, two, one, and yee-haw!

00:00:09.000 Brendan Chobb.

00:00:10.000 What's up, dawg?

00:00:11.000 Did you buy those shoes yourself?

00:00:12.000 Yeah, I bought these.

00:00:14.000 A little too much flair for you?

00:00:16.000 It's summer, bro.

00:00:17.000 Confident move.

00:00:18.000 You get the tight pants around the ankles.

00:00:21.000 Yeah.

00:00:22.000 Just riding high enough to see the Gucci shoes.

00:00:24.000 Yeah.

00:00:25.000 I get it, bro.

00:00:25.000 Gucci denim, bro.

00:00:26.000 I get it.

00:00:26.000 What's up, bro?

00:00:27.000 I get it.

00:00:27.000 It works.

00:00:28.000 It works.

00:00:29.000 You can pull it off.

00:00:30.000 You were making fun of me.

00:00:32.000 I was saying, I bet your girls like these.

00:00:38.000 Girls also like dick, though, man.

00:00:40.000 Good point.

00:00:42.000 Legit point, sir.

00:00:43.000 It's true.

00:00:44.000 It's so true.

00:00:45.000 Dude, how about these fights?

00:00:47.000 Oh my god, how about these fights?

00:00:49.000 How about I almost didn't see them, and I text you during the broadcast, the ESPN Plus thing was a nightmare, man.

00:00:55.000 Yeah, they had some hiccups.

00:00:57.000 That'd be an understatement.

00:00:58.000 That has happened before, with digital stuff.

00:01:04.000 In 2019 though, especially with ESPN though, that's where I was just shocked.

00:01:08.000 And me being like a super fan, I had to figure it out.

00:01:12.000 But you know how I had to figure it out?

00:01:14.000 Because it didn't work on any platform.

00:01:16.000 And it's a hiccup where you couldn't order it off the app, so you had to close the app, order it from a desktop, then shut down something, then go to your TV. It was a nightmare.

00:01:24.000 But that didn't work for me.

00:01:26.000 And then I was like, alright.

00:01:27.000 And then I slowly was missing the first fight.

00:01:30.000 I'm like, man, I gotta figure stuff out.

00:01:31.000 And then I tweeted out I was having problems.

00:01:34.000 And 2,000 savages sent me links to legal streams.

00:01:40.000 Legal?

00:01:41.000 Illegal.

00:01:42.000 But of course you didn't watch those.

00:01:44.000 Illegal streams.

00:01:45.000 I didn't, Joe, and I'm glad you pointed out I did not, but if I were going to...

00:01:49.000 Would it be awesome?

00:01:50.000 It was awesome and clear.

00:01:52.000 Was it in HD? It was HD and had zero problems, if I was going to.

00:01:55.000 I'm glad you didn't, because they could track you, that face recognition software.

00:01:58.000 They could definitely track me.

00:02:00.000 It's a huge problem.

00:02:03.000 Well, it was definitely a huge problem for the first event.

00:02:06.000 I don't know how many people downloaded it and did it, but I bet they probably didn't see the number coming.

00:02:13.000 It was a big fight.

00:02:14.000 Those two fights were huge.

00:02:16.000 I mean, first of all, something happened...

00:02:19.000 I think within the last year or so for Max Holloway, where when Max Holloway's face goes up on the screen, people go nuts.

00:02:27.000 Because they know he throws down.

00:02:28.000 Yeah, I think it was the Ortega fight.

00:02:30.000 I really think that Ortega fight made him a superstar.

00:02:32.000 I really do.

00:02:33.000 The Aldo ones definitely helped them.

00:02:34.000 For sure they did.

00:02:35.000 The back-to-back Aldo ass-whoopings, and then the Ortega one.

00:02:38.000 The thing that was different, though, is Ortega had a big following.

00:02:41.000 Ortega was the young, beautiful lion with fantastic jujitsu, handsome guy, cool, smooth talker, looks like a champion, fucking everybody up.

00:02:52.000 So he had a lot of fans coming in there, and they went to war.

00:02:57.000 And Max came out on top, and I think Max, a lot of those people, and because they were so cool with each other during, before, and after.

00:03:05.000 People loved it.

00:03:05.000 Dude, Max, he loses better than anyone on the fucking planet.

00:03:09.000 Loses or wins.

00:03:11.000 He just goes, hey, I'm just going to get better.

00:03:13.000 He doesn't lose a lot.

00:03:14.000 He doesn't.

00:03:15.000 No.

00:03:15.000 I mean, he lost to Conor.

00:03:16.000 He lost to Dustin in his very first fight ever.

00:03:19.000 Conor was young, young as fuck.

00:03:19.000 He's 20 years old.

00:03:21.000 But I also think Max is – because we've always said – I think both of us have been in agreement where if a guy is cutting a ton of weight and killing himself, go to the next weight class.

00:03:29.000 I've always said that, whether it was Darren Till, whether Chris Weidman, Luke Rockhold, John Jones.

00:03:36.000 Like, dude, go up a weight class.

00:03:37.000 Dominate.

00:03:38.000 And then this is kind of the first time we've seen a guy where it's like – It's not that easy.

00:03:43.000 Because Max Holloway went up, but you could see the power wasn't there.

00:03:47.000 He landed more than Dustin Poirier, but when Dustin landed, you could see that it fucking counted.

00:03:55.000 Dustin is big, dude.

00:03:57.000 He's big.

00:03:58.000 Remember, he used to fight at 45, though.

00:03:59.000 He used to fight at 45, and really struggled there.

00:04:02.000 But at 55, he's found a spot.

00:04:05.000 You look at him, he almost looks like a welterweight.

00:04:07.000 I mean, he's big.

00:04:08.000 He looks like Tyron Woodley size.

00:04:09.000 And he cuts a shitload of weight.

00:04:11.000 And Max Holloway in that fight just looked like they didn't look like the same.

00:04:15.000 No.

00:04:15.000 Just Poirier like fucking meaty.

00:04:17.000 Well, and you gotta give credit to Poirier too because if you look at the two of them, like after the fight, there was a big difference between the amount of damage that Poirier landed.

00:04:25.000 A big difference.

00:04:25.000 He was hitting him with big shots.

00:04:27.000 And it wasn't just big shots.

00:04:28.000 It was shots, period.

00:04:29.000 He was hitting him with really clean, well-timed shots with great head movement, great movement.

00:04:35.000 How about that?

00:04:35.000 That knee.

00:04:36.000 Dude, everything, man.

00:04:37.000 Split open his head, man.

00:04:38.000 Yeah, everything.

00:04:38.000 He did everything great.

00:04:40.000 I mean, he really, that was a coming out party for Dustin Poirier in a lot of ways.

00:04:44.000 For the common fan.

00:04:46.000 Well, yeah.

00:04:46.000 Well, the people that knew him from the Gagey fight, knew him from the Eddie Alvarez fight, they knew that, man, he beat these two really good guys, but Max Holloway might be one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world, and I think he is.

00:04:57.000 I think Max Holley's the greatest 145-er of all time.

00:05:01.000 I think he's a damn good 55-er.

00:05:04.000 But 55 could be tough for Max.

00:05:06.000 Well, this is a great example of what we've always said about the differences between the size of people.

00:05:12.000 First of all, I mean, all credit to Dustin Poirier because he put on a phenomenal performance.

00:05:19.000 He got tested in that fight.

00:05:21.000 He came through.

00:05:22.000 He even talked about in the post-fight interview that he got hurt in the third round.

00:05:25.000 He came through and just...

00:05:27.000 Super impressive.

00:05:28.000 Think about his wins.

00:05:29.000 Yeah, man.

00:05:30.000 Anthony Pettis.

00:05:31.000 Anthony Pettis, world champion.

00:05:33.000 Gaethje, world champion.

00:05:34.000 Eddie Alvarez, world champion.

00:05:36.000 Max Holloway, world champion.

00:05:37.000 The Pettis one, though, wasn't that an injury?

00:05:39.000 I feel like Pettis got injured and he stopped the fight.

00:05:41.000 Did he break his hand?

00:05:42.000 Is that what happened?

00:05:45.000 No.

00:05:46.000 I feel like the Pettis one was an injury.

00:05:49.000 He had the issues with Eddie Alvarez, right?

00:05:51.000 Which was a no contest.

00:05:53.000 Yeah, I think...

00:05:54.000 Well, there was one fight where Dustin Poirier...

00:05:58.000 No, yeah, I think that was it.

00:06:00.000 There was one fight with Pettis where Pettis broke his hand and Duke Rufus stopped the fight.

00:06:03.000 Remember that?

00:06:03.000 Tony Ferguson.

00:06:04.000 Was it Tony Ferguson?

00:06:04.000 That's Tony Ferguson.

00:06:05.000 You're right, you're right.

00:06:06.000 That was a great round.

00:06:08.000 Maybe it was an injury.

00:06:09.000 Oh, it was a rib, remember?

00:06:11.000 Oh, it was a rib, that's right.

00:06:12.000 That's right.

00:06:12.000 Dustin got on top of him and hurt his rib.

00:06:14.000 That's right.

00:06:15.000 But still, look at Poirier's wins, man.

00:06:17.000 Yeah.

00:06:17.000 Well, that's a weird one, too, right?

00:06:18.000 It's because, like, was that rib injury from a Poirier body shot?

00:06:21.000 Yeah.

00:06:22.000 What was that from?

00:06:23.000 Or was it from the takedown?

00:06:24.000 Like, what was it?

00:06:25.000 Something happened.

00:06:26.000 Yeah.

00:06:26.000 I don't remember.

00:06:27.000 That's right.

00:06:28.000 That's more like a TKO. Yeah.

00:06:30.000 Yeah, you look at Poirier's list, man.

00:06:33.000 The guys that he's fought and who he's lost to, it's so impressive.

00:06:35.000 And Poirier's the guy...

00:06:37.000 Same thing with when Michael Bisping won.

00:06:40.000 I always root for those guys.

00:06:41.000 Those guys who've been around forever and they fight the best of the best.

00:06:44.000 They might lose one or two here, but they've been around for so long.

00:06:48.000 You just hope there's a title at the end of their career.

00:06:50.000 You just hope.

00:06:51.000 And sometimes it doesn't look like it's going to happen, but when it does happen, I just...

00:06:55.000 I'm just so happy for those guys.

00:06:57.000 He's such a good guy too.

00:06:58.000 Dustin Poirier.

00:06:58.000 Great guy.

00:06:59.000 He's a great guy.

00:07:00.000 He's smart.

00:07:00.000 He's ambitious.

00:07:02.000 Theo Vaughn's favorite fighter.

00:07:03.000 He works hard.

00:07:03.000 How hilarious is that seeing those two guys together?

00:07:05.000 That was hilarious.

00:07:06.000 He's calling them the Rat King.

00:07:07.000 They both went the same homeschool.

00:07:08.000 How about Theo was yelling instructions?

00:07:12.000 I'm going to roast the shit out of him.

00:07:15.000 Did you see him?

00:07:16.000 Take him down!

00:07:17.000 What is happening right now?

00:07:19.000 Why does this happen?

00:07:20.000 Yeah.

00:07:20.000 Shouting instructions.

00:07:21.000 Luckily, the UFC provides me with headphones.

00:07:24.000 I was hoping you would have turned around like, dude, what are you doing?

00:07:27.000 I love Theo.

00:07:28.000 He's the best.

00:07:29.000 He's such a character.

00:07:31.000 Unique kid.

00:07:32.000 He was so happy.

00:07:34.000 He was so happy.

00:07:35.000 Made him bet.

00:07:35.000 Well, I just bet because obviously him and...

00:07:37.000 You thought that...

00:07:39.000 I thought it was going to be a great fight.

00:07:41.000 I thought Max at 55, everything was going to carry with him.

00:07:45.000 I thought Max would probably get it done, but I knew it was going to be a good fight.

00:07:47.000 I was just betting Theo because Theo is boys with Dustin.

00:07:50.000 They're from the same area.

00:07:51.000 So it was just a friendly bet.

00:07:52.000 I would never bet against Dustin Poirier.

00:07:53.000 Look at these fools.

00:07:56.000 Hilarious.

00:07:57.000 That's amazing.

00:07:59.000 How about Theo?

00:08:03.000 Theo's never been in a fight before and he texts me halfway through and goes, dude, I can't believe you did this shit.

00:08:08.000 I go, maybe a little respect now around King of the Sting, alright?

00:08:11.000 Maybe a little fucking respect, bro.

00:08:13.000 Yeah, he was looking at it as a complete outsider.

00:08:15.000 He had no idea.

00:08:17.000 I told him.

00:08:17.000 I said, super intense, man.

00:08:19.000 You're seeing four of the best fighters on planet Earth.

00:08:22.000 Yeah.

00:08:22.000 You're seeing the very, very best.

00:08:24.000 Shootouts, man.

00:08:25.000 The Kelvin Gastelum Stylebender fight was a shootout.

00:08:28.000 Best title fight for me I've ever watched.

00:08:30.000 Ever.

00:08:31.000 It's one of the best fights of all time.

00:08:32.000 Has to be.

00:08:33.000 It has to be.

00:08:34.000 And when you see Stylebender get rocked in the first round and dropped, you're like, holy shit.

00:08:40.000 I think it's the best thing that happened to him.

00:08:43.000 It's a good thing.

00:08:44.000 I think it's a good thing.

00:08:45.000 Career-wise and going forward, it's a good thing he faced a little adversity.

00:08:48.000 We see that he's not going to get hit and crumble.

00:08:52.000 You got one.

00:08:53.000 You got a special dude in Stylebender.

00:08:55.000 And how good is Kelvin?

00:08:56.000 Goddamn, he's tough.

00:08:57.000 How fast are his fucking hands?

00:08:59.000 He's so tough.

00:08:59.000 He's so fucking tough.

00:09:00.000 And even after all that, I mean, Stylebender was teeing off on him in that fifth round.

00:09:05.000 And Kelvin is finding a way to survive.

00:09:08.000 He has a great chin.

00:09:09.000 He's incredible.

00:09:10.000 Stylebender's face looked like he was allergic to shellfish.

00:09:13.000 Did you see his face?

00:09:16.000 Look at his face.

00:09:18.000 The fourth round.

00:09:19.000 What the fuck is happening right now?

00:09:21.000 He was in a war, man.

00:09:21.000 He was in a war.

00:09:22.000 Kelvin hit him with some bombs, man.

00:09:24.000 Bombs.

00:09:24.000 And it's also, I think it's good we saw Asanya get hit, get knocked down.

00:09:29.000 We saw him get taken down.

00:09:31.000 We saw what happens when he's off his back, look pretty fucking good.

00:09:34.000 His triangle, his transitions.

00:09:36.000 He had him locked up in a triangle.

00:09:37.000 Who knows what the fuck would have happened if that was early in the fight and they were dry.

00:09:41.000 So I think that fight for Staubman checked all the boxes.

00:09:44.000 But also, what's great about this is Kelvin's stock doesn't go down.

00:09:48.000 No.

00:09:49.000 If anything, I'd watch that guy fight whenever.

00:09:52.000 Whenever.

00:09:52.000 And let's be honest, he's really a welterweight.

00:09:55.000 Correct.

00:09:56.000 He's super small for 85. If Darren Till can make 170 pounds, so can Calvin.

00:10:01.000 It's a discipline thing, yes.

00:10:02.000 I just think there should be more weight classes.

00:10:04.000 I don't even think it's...

00:10:04.000 I don't think he's a...

00:10:05.000 Talk to your boy Dana, man.

00:10:07.000 He doesn't want to listen to me.

00:10:07.000 65, you could text him and make it happen.

00:10:09.000 No one listens to me.

00:10:10.000 And I don't want him to.

00:10:11.000 Really?

00:10:12.000 Yeah.

00:10:12.000 I do.

00:10:13.000 I'd rather just stay out here and talk about it.

00:10:15.000 Yeah, me too.

00:10:16.000 I don't want to be involved.

00:10:17.000 I've pushed it.

00:10:18.000 I've said I think there should be a weight class every time.

00:10:19.000 I'm like, ah, get out of here.

00:10:22.000 We could, like, dangle the carrot and be like, yo, we'll do a fight campaign every time a 165 or fights and just dangle that carrot.

00:10:28.000 Yeah.

00:10:28.000 He probably still wouldn't do it.

00:10:30.000 Probably still wouldn't do it.

00:10:31.000 It's one of those things where, like, I think they like it the way it is.

00:10:35.000 If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

00:10:37.000 Yeah, but it doesn't make sense because if you're going to do all these intern belts, why not do 65?

00:10:41.000 Belts on belts on belts.

00:10:42.000 Do you think they would think that it's watered down to have too many weight classes?

00:10:46.000 Yeah.

00:10:46.000 The people would just be jumping back and forth from weight class, which they would be.

00:10:50.000 Talking about chaos, which I love.

00:10:51.000 But you would also have people that find a weight class where they could be at their best versus either have to bulk up or have to drop too much weight and compromise yourself.

00:11:00.000 It's a happy medium for a lot of guys that are not hitting that happy medium right now.

00:11:04.000 We're not getting their best performance.

00:11:06.000 But here's the thing about, so if Kelvin should be a 170-er, Stylebender's a small 85-er.

00:11:11.000 He weighed in at 183. He weighed under the weight limit.

00:11:14.000 Well, you look at how big some of these guys are.

00:11:16.000 Oh, my God.

00:11:17.000 You see Brandon Davis?

00:11:18.000 Dude, they're huge.

00:11:19.000 The kid that fights at 35?

00:11:20.000 He was 160?

00:11:21.000 Dude.

00:11:22.000 It was Brandon Davis, right?

00:11:23.000 Who said that?

00:11:25.000 Well, some of those 85ers.

00:11:26.000 Like, you look at Jacare, you look at Yoel Romero.

00:11:29.000 Yoel Romero's gigantic, dude.

00:11:31.000 He looks like a heavyweight.

00:11:32.000 I mean, it's going to happen.

00:11:33.000 Think about Yoel Romero.

00:11:34.000 Stop it.

00:11:35.000 Like, Yoel Romero's jacked, dude.

00:11:37.000 Yeah, he's a big fella.

00:11:38.000 Like, Staubender could probably make 170 easier than fucking 85. I mean, 85's a...

00:11:43.000 A big weight class.

00:11:44.000 Yeah.

00:11:45.000 That's why, have you seen the talk, it makes no sense, Stylebender and Jon Jones?

00:11:49.000 That's crazy.

00:11:50.000 What are we doing?

00:11:50.000 Who the fuck's picking up on that?

00:11:52.000 That's just because they're talking shit.

00:11:53.000 I can't find, I've seen anything.

00:11:55.000 Just the last card.

00:11:58.000 It just says, yeah, he ballooned back up to 160 pounds.

00:12:00.000 Yeah, it was Brandon Davis, right?

00:12:02.000 From 35. He's really talented.

00:12:03.000 It's crazy when I'm standing next to him that this guy weighed in at 35 because I'm looking at him.

00:12:07.000 He looked all of 165 pounds.

00:12:10.000 He's 5'10".

00:12:12.000 He looks so big for that 135-pound weight class.

00:12:14.000 I'm like, this is crazy.

00:12:16.000 Well, even Max at 45 is fucking huge.

00:12:18.000 But the UFC Performance Institute gave him the green light to do that.

00:12:21.000 Wow.

00:12:22.000 So they must have known what they were doing.

00:12:23.000 It says, David Sight with Costa was the first in the bandweight division.

00:12:26.000 He said he needed to make serious sacrifices to get there.

00:12:28.000 He said he cut out drinking alcohol.

00:12:29.000 Damn.

00:12:30.000 And ran 20 miles per day.

00:12:32.000 Oh, that's a terrible idea.

00:12:33.000 In order to make the weight.

00:12:34.000 By the time he stepped into the octagon at 236, he had ballooned back to 160 pounds.

00:12:37.000 Let me see this dude.

00:12:38.000 He's really big, man.

00:12:40.000 He must be huge.

00:12:41.000 But the thing is, he was also...

00:12:45.000 He was not just tall, but he's thick.

00:12:50.000 It's weird how you can lose that much weight.

00:12:52.000 But why not just fight at 45?

00:12:54.000 Why kill yourself?

00:12:55.000 20 miles a day?

00:12:56.000 Well, he didn't fight at 45. He fought Zabit in his last fight.

00:12:59.000 Wow.

00:13:00.000 Yeah, Zabit and Magomed Sharapov.

00:13:03.000 Zabit got him in that crazy arm bar from the back.

00:13:05.000 Yeah, I remember that.

00:13:06.000 Leg lock from the back.

00:13:07.000 Yeah, which is so nasty.

00:13:09.000 Filthy.

00:13:09.000 Back mount.

00:13:10.000 Filthy.

00:13:10.000 That's nasty.

00:13:11.000 There's two that night.

00:13:12.000 Oof, I know.

00:13:13.000 It's crazy.

00:13:13.000 That's a crazy move, right?

00:13:14.000 Crazy.

00:13:15.000 When I think of 185ers, think of Luke Rockhold.

00:13:18.000 He's huge, man.

00:13:19.000 He's a big ass.

00:13:21.000 He's huge.

00:13:21.000 But then Whitaker's not freakishly big.

00:13:24.000 I think Luke's done with 85. Yeah, he's at 205 now.

00:13:26.000 Is it 100% or is he just going to do it for one fight?

00:13:28.000 No, it's 100%.

00:13:28.000 He has a fight lined up already.

00:13:30.000 But is he going to stay there or is he just doing it for one fight?

00:13:32.000 I'm pretty sure he's staying there.

00:13:34.000 Probably a good idea, man.

00:13:34.000 But then you look at Whitaker, who's at 85. He's not huge.

00:13:38.000 He's stocky, but he's not huge.

00:13:40.000 He's like the perfect size, Whitaker.

00:13:42.000 Because he still can knock out anybody, but he's got awesome cardio and pace.

00:13:47.000 He's strong, too.

00:13:47.000 He's strong.

00:13:48.000 I mean, he's not as strong as Yoel Romero, but he's strong enough to hold him off.

00:13:52.000 No one is.

00:13:52.000 Who is?

00:13:53.000 No one is.

00:13:54.000 You gotta get that Cuban gene pool to get that.

00:13:58.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:13:59.000 There's certain gene pools.

00:14:00.000 Like that fucking mountain from Game of Thrones.

00:14:02.000 There's some gene pools out there, man.

00:14:04.000 Yeah, and then when he's throwing steroids in that pool, you get a freak.

00:14:08.000 Oh, you do throw steroids in that pool, too.

00:14:08.000 Did you see he admitted to it?

00:14:10.000 Of course he did.

00:14:11.000 Of course he did.

00:14:12.000 Yeah.

00:14:13.000 Yeah.

00:14:13.000 He was like, yeah, no shit.

00:14:14.000 Yeah.

00:14:15.000 And then when they kept asking about it, they go, are you currently taking it?

00:14:17.000 He goes, listen, I don't really want to talk about this.

00:14:19.000 It's like, yeah, no, of course I am.

00:14:21.000 Why are they asking questions like that?

00:14:22.000 I know.

00:14:23.000 It's the Strongest Man contest.

00:14:24.000 But think about...

00:14:25.000 Come on.

00:14:26.000 Yeah.

00:14:26.000 Dude, who's going to win?

00:14:28.000 Who gives a fuck?

00:14:29.000 How about Stylebender versus Whitaker?

00:14:31.000 Yeah.

00:14:32.000 The all-oceanic fight.

00:14:33.000 Are you really going to fly to Australia for that pay-per-view?

00:14:36.000 Thinking about it.

00:14:36.000 Dude, there ain't two dudes on this planet that get me to fly to Australia.

00:14:40.000 Two?

00:14:41.000 There's not.

00:14:42.000 No dudes on this planet.

00:14:43.000 Wouldn't you want to be there live, though?

00:14:44.000 No, Joe.

00:14:45.000 I'd rather be here.

00:14:46.000 I'd rather be here.

00:14:48.000 You're crazy.

00:14:49.000 I love Australia, but now if Rihanna was like, yo, dude, get to Australia, I'm like, I'm on my way.

00:14:55.000 Say no more, fam.

00:14:57.000 But not two dudes.

00:14:58.000 Yeah, but that fight?

00:15:00.000 Dude, I want to see that fight in the flesh.

00:15:02.000 Live?

00:15:03.000 You're going to do it?

00:15:03.000 I think I might.

00:15:05.000 I want to see how that goes down.

00:15:07.000 That's a great fight.

00:15:08.000 Whitaker is a fucking animal, man.

00:15:11.000 Just think about how much pain that guy had to be in to an almost fight with a hernia and a ruptured...

00:15:17.000 He had a ruptured rectum, right?

00:15:20.000 Was it a ruptured rectum?

00:15:21.000 I thought it was just a hernia.

00:15:22.000 I think his rectum's fine.

00:15:24.000 No, no, no.

00:15:24.000 I think he had two major injuries.

00:15:27.000 No, I know his intestines were popping through.

00:15:29.000 Yeah, but I think it was another one.

00:15:31.000 Damn, his rectum was fucked up, too?

00:15:32.000 Yeah.

00:15:33.000 Didn't he have a tear?

00:15:34.000 Is that called a hemorrhoid?

00:15:36.000 No, no, no.

00:15:37.000 Like a tear.

00:15:38.000 In his ass?

00:15:38.000 Well, you know, think about the fucking strain from sparring.

00:15:42.000 Just think about getting taken down while you're trying to throw a kick.

00:15:45.000 You land fucked up on your hip.

00:15:47.000 Never rip my asshole.

00:15:48.000 You can rip your asshole.

00:15:49.000 I'm just saying I never have.

00:15:51.000 Catch a kick.

00:15:51.000 You can catch a kick in the asshole.

00:15:53.000 Yeah, easily, dude.

00:15:54.000 For sure.

00:15:55.000 People lose eyes.

00:15:56.000 How about someone misses a spinning back kick low and it just catches your taint?

00:16:00.000 Oh, man.

00:16:01.000 Just the heel hits your taint and rips your taint away from the bone.

00:16:05.000 That shit happens.

00:16:06.000 I wonder what...

00:16:10.000 I don't know what the odds would be.

00:16:11.000 I would assume Whitaker's a slight favorite in that fight.

00:16:14.000 I would say so.

00:16:16.000 Based off what Kelvin did?

00:16:18.000 Well, based off what Kelvin did, based off Whitaker's two fights with Yoel, he's been the only guy to hold Yoel off.

00:16:25.000 Although I have said that I did think that Yoel won the second fight.

00:16:27.000 Interesting.

00:16:29.000 I think by the new scoring, Yoel had him rocked and hurt.

00:16:33.000 By the new scoring, I felt like it should have been worth more.

00:16:36.000 You thought it should have been a 10-8?

00:16:37.000 Yeah, I mean, he had him almost out.

00:16:39.000 Hurt.

00:16:40.000 He staggered.

00:16:41.000 We didn't see him do that to Yoel.

00:16:45.000 But he did survive.

00:16:46.000 But he won more rounds and survived.

00:16:47.000 Yeah, he survived.

00:16:48.000 He won more rounds.

00:16:49.000 I don't have a problem with the draw.

00:16:50.000 If you're watching a fight, if a fight is a fight, I mean, I understand it's a sport, but it's a sport of fighting.

00:16:56.000 If you're watching a fight and one guy is really fucking a guy up and the other guy never does that, Who do you think won that fight?

00:17:06.000 You can't do that, though.

00:17:07.000 You're right, you can't.

00:17:08.000 Yeah.

00:17:08.000 But do you think the guy that just moves around and touches him with the jab, and I'm not saying this as what Whitaker did, but just as a what if.

00:17:15.000 If a guy's just moving around for four rounds, and he's touching you with the jab, and leg kicking you, and shutting you out.

00:17:20.000 Is that like fighting in the street?

00:17:21.000 But then in the fifth round, you knock him down four times.

00:17:24.000 You beat the fuck out of him.

00:17:26.000 He's running away from you.

00:17:28.000 His nose gets bloodied.

00:17:29.000 You end the fight with your hand raised without a mark on your face, and the other guy's face is pizza.

00:17:34.000 Maybe.

00:17:34.000 I'd look at my boys and be like, damn, for that first 20, that boy was moving.

00:17:37.000 Right, right, right.

00:17:38.000 It's a good question.

00:17:40.000 How much is that round worth?

00:17:42.000 As a sport, though.

00:17:43.000 Yeah, that's what it is.

00:17:44.000 Because as a sport, you have to judge it as cumulative.

00:17:47.000 Yeah, if you're going to judge it on a scorecard, it has to be cumulative.

00:17:51.000 The question is, how much is it worth for a guy to really take it to a guy and almost stop him?

00:17:57.000 See, I don't think there should be more draws.

00:17:58.000 I don't have a problem with a draw.

00:18:00.000 I don't have a problem with a draw.

00:18:00.000 Like, with that fight, if there's a draw, I'm like, that makes sense.

00:18:02.000 Redo it.

00:18:03.000 Let's get a clear-cut winner.

00:18:04.000 I think when a person gets really rocked like that, it's worth more than a point.

00:18:08.000 I think it's worth more than two points.

00:18:10.000 I think it's worth a lot.

00:18:11.000 You think it should be like 10-7 rounds?

00:18:13.000 I think it's a big deal.

00:18:14.000 God, then you're fucked, dude.

00:18:15.000 You're fucked, but you are fucked.

00:18:17.000 In real life, you're fucked.

00:18:18.000 Well, no.

00:18:19.000 In real life, you're kind of fucked, right?

00:18:21.000 The idea that you could go through a round, you don't know who won, right?

00:18:25.000 A round where it's like a lot of feeling out, a lot of touching, you know, this and that.

00:18:30.000 Okay, perfect example.

00:18:32.000 First round, Anderson Silva versus Stylebender.

00:18:34.000 You could give it to Stylebender for sure, but it was a round where they were feeling each other out.

00:18:40.000 There was not one big moment where, oh my god, Stylebender's taking over, this fight is almost done.

00:18:46.000 So that's 10-9.

00:18:48.000 But yet another fight where a guy beats the shit out of a guy and doesn't drop him.

00:18:53.000 And they have exchanges, but the guy gets rocked and hurt.

00:18:56.000 Is that 10-9 too?

00:18:57.000 I know, it's weird.

00:18:58.000 What if he head kicks him and drops him and the guy barely survives?

00:19:01.000 You hammer fist him at the end of the bell?

00:19:02.000 Is it 10-9?

00:19:03.000 In the old system it is.

00:19:04.000 But what is it in the new system?

00:19:06.000 Is it 10-8?

00:19:07.000 But even if it's 10-8, I think it should be more than 10-8.

00:19:09.000 That guy almost went out.

00:19:11.000 But the only thing is you're fucked.

00:19:13.000 Let's say you do a 10-6 or 10-7.

00:19:15.000 Then you get dropped.

00:19:17.000 You've got to get a finish.

00:19:18.000 Here's the argument against what I'm saying.

00:19:19.000 Here's the argument against it.

00:19:21.000 Frankie Edgar vs.

00:19:22.000 Gray Maynard.

00:19:23.000 Especially the first one, right?

00:19:25.000 Gray Maynard drops him, has him badly hurt in the first round.

00:19:29.000 Frankie manages to survive and come back and win enough rounds and win the fight.

00:19:33.000 That's the exception, though.

00:19:34.000 It is the exception.

00:19:35.000 If you gave him five points for that round.

00:19:38.000 Well, it's kind of like with Roundtree and Eric Anders.

00:19:42.000 How the fuck were people scoring those rounds 10-9?

00:19:45.000 Yeah, that's ridiculous.

00:19:45.000 What the fuck are you doing?

00:19:46.000 That's a perfect example.

00:19:47.000 What are you doing?

00:19:48.000 How is that a 10-9?

00:19:49.000 That wasn't a competitive fight.

00:19:51.000 How good does Roundtree look?

00:19:53.000 How good?

00:19:53.000 Oh, you said something on the broadcast.

00:19:56.000 Someone's booking a trip to Phuket.

00:19:58.000 Yeah.

00:19:59.000 Every fighter's like, where the fuck was he at?

00:20:02.000 They're making fucking plane trips to Phuket.

00:20:04.000 My only thing with that is, what's the grappling like out there?

00:20:08.000 Hey, man, I don't know, man, but get somebody to help him.

00:20:11.000 Get somebody.

00:20:12.000 That motherfucker, he throws some of the nastiest inside leg kicks, and so fast, and he was total tie style.

00:20:19.000 I wish I could lift my arms up.

00:20:21.000 I've got my shoulders hurt.

00:20:22.000 You could tell he was just in it.

00:20:24.000 Total tie style with a light front leg.

00:20:26.000 Dude, his timing, his speed was off the charts.

00:20:29.000 He fucked his leg up.

00:20:31.000 I hope Eric Anders posted a picture today about it.

00:20:34.000 First of all, how fucking tough is Eric Anders?

00:20:36.000 His coaches, what are you doing?

00:20:38.000 This is not a title fight.

00:20:40.000 There's nothing really on the line here.

00:20:43.000 It's just not his day.

00:20:44.000 They couldn't ask him to quit.

00:20:45.000 They couldn't ask him to quit.

00:20:47.000 They just wouldn't ask him to quit.

00:20:48.000 He's so fucking tough.

00:20:49.000 He's so tough.

00:20:51.000 Crimson Tide alumni monster.

00:20:53.000 Did you hear what John Anik said?

00:20:54.000 What did he say?

00:20:55.000 He said he loves when he fights because then Bruce Buffer has to say, your boy...

00:20:59.000 Oh, really?

00:21:00.000 That's hilarious.

00:21:03.000 That's hilarious.

00:21:04.000 Dude, he's a bad motherfucker.

00:21:06.000 He's a bad motherfucker, because that guy does not have a long history of mixed martial arts like a lot of these guys.

00:21:11.000 Athletic, man.

00:21:12.000 Way more athletic than the rest.

00:21:13.000 Than a lot of them.

00:21:14.000 But look, Khalil's athletic as fuck, too, man.

00:21:17.000 You know, he used to be 320 pounds?

00:21:19.000 Yeah, he was huge.

00:21:20.000 Have you met him?

00:21:21.000 He's a great guy.

00:21:22.000 He's a great guy.

00:21:23.000 Used to train with him.

00:21:24.000 Monster.

00:21:25.000 I'm just...

00:21:25.000 Well, I was impressed when he knocked out Gokan Saki.

00:21:28.000 And then I know he lost to Johnny Walker, who's just a beast.

00:21:31.000 I don't know what to make of Johnny Walker yet.

00:21:33.000 Hoo, he's scary.

00:21:34.000 I'm on the train, but I'm kind of like...

00:21:36.000 I'm on.

00:21:36.000 Where are we at?

00:21:37.000 I'm fucking...

00:21:37.000 Me too.

00:21:38.000 And I'm on the back.

00:21:39.000 Let's go, Johnny.

00:21:40.000 He's a bad motherfucker, dude.

00:21:41.000 He's something special.

00:21:42.000 He's something special.

00:21:43.000 I hope he didn't hurt his fucking shoulder when he fell.

00:21:46.000 I know.

00:21:46.000 When he did that worm thing.

00:21:47.000 I hope.

00:21:48.000 I hope he didn't really hurt himself.

00:21:49.000 Because if he really hurt himself and they can't fix that, that would be a damn shame if the way he got injured is falling down playing around after a spectacular victory.

00:21:59.000 I thought he came out and said he was fine though.

00:22:01.000 His man said he's fine.

00:22:02.000 He would say that.

00:22:03.000 I would say that, too.

00:22:04.000 Yeah, me too.

00:22:05.000 You've got to tell everybody you're fine.

00:22:06.000 We'll fix this.

00:22:07.000 We'll fix this.

00:22:07.000 He does look like a freak, though.

00:22:09.000 He's a freak, dude.

00:22:09.000 He has crazy power.

00:22:11.000 Crazy power.

00:22:12.000 He's scary.

00:22:13.000 And he caught Khalil with an elbow.

00:22:16.000 In the clinch.

00:22:17.000 With one of those elbows where he hands up high.

00:22:19.000 In the clinch.

00:22:20.000 In the clinch.

00:22:21.000 But it was beautiful.

00:22:22.000 Flatlined him.

00:22:23.000 The way he did it, though.

00:22:24.000 Look, anybody gets flatlined with that fucking elbow.

00:22:27.000 Anybody.

00:22:28.000 That guy hits hard.

00:22:28.000 But how about that's the fight?

00:22:30.000 That was the reason why Khalil went to Thailand.

00:22:32.000 Yes, that's what I was going to say.

00:22:34.000 It's beautiful.

00:22:35.000 And now he's all in.

00:22:36.000 He's like, he's moving there.

00:22:37.000 He's going to move his family there.

00:22:38.000 He's going to do all his camps out there.

00:22:39.000 That's so intense.

00:22:40.000 It's so intense.

00:22:41.000 But when you have results like that, I love it.

00:22:44.000 I love a story like that.

00:22:45.000 I love a story like that until a grappler comes around and goes, Muay Thai.

00:22:49.000 That's cool.

00:22:50.000 Thailand riding elephants and shit.

00:22:51.000 Check this out.

00:22:52.000 That's what I'm worried about.

00:22:53.000 Yeah, but doesn't like Phuket Top Team and a lot of those places out there, a.k.a.

00:22:57.000 Mike Swick's place, they must have wrestling.

00:23:00.000 I'm sure, right?

00:23:01.000 Mike Swick came out of a.k.a.

00:23:02.000 American Kickboxing Academy.

00:23:03.000 But Mike Swick was exactly...

00:23:06.000 Wrestler.

00:23:06.000 But he knows the deal.

00:23:08.000 He was always with wrestlers, though.

00:23:09.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:23:10.000 I mean, he knew how to wrestle.

00:23:11.000 Swick could do everything.

00:23:12.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:23:13.000 Swick was a bad motherfucker.

00:23:15.000 But is that where he's at, AK, out there?

00:23:17.000 Yeah, he's got his place out there.

00:23:18.000 But now I'm saying, is that where Khalil's at?

00:23:20.000 I do not know where Khalil's at.

00:23:21.000 I think he's at straight, kicking bamboo.

00:23:22.000 I think he's doing the real deal.

00:23:24.000 Lionheart style.

00:23:25.000 Yeah.

00:23:25.000 Drinking coconuts.

00:23:26.000 He actually posted.

00:23:28.000 Go to his...

00:23:29.000 See if you can go to Khalil Roundtree Jr.'s Instagram page.

00:23:32.000 Because he posted the thanks after the fight.

00:23:35.000 There's a lot of people doing it.

00:23:37.000 Yeah.

00:23:37.000 Well, a lot of people are going to Thailand.

00:23:39.000 I think there's something to it, man.

00:23:41.000 Learning in the motherland with those dudes, you know?

00:23:44.000 Watching those guys work out and train, just to be in that environment.

00:23:48.000 It's good for the soul.

00:23:49.000 You know what it would be like?

00:23:49.000 He's the nicest guy, Joe.

00:23:51.000 The nicest guy out there.

00:23:52.000 Yeah, that's Khalil's Instagram.

00:23:53.000 That's me and him and his crew.

00:23:55.000 You know, he used to work at an MMA warehouse and sell shirts when he was 300 pounds.

00:23:59.000 It was like, dude, I want to fight.

00:24:00.000 That's crazy.

00:24:02.000 See if there's a thing.

00:24:04.000 Go back to the...

00:24:05.000 Oh, that's it right there.

00:24:06.000 Sorry, go back to that one.

00:24:08.000 See there?

00:24:08.000 It says Teddy Bear Peachy Indie Boxing.

00:24:13.000 See that?

00:24:13.000 Click on that.

00:24:14.000 Click on that.

00:24:14.000 That's the dude.

00:24:15.000 I think that's the gym.

00:24:19.000 So he's with...

00:24:20.000 Or that's one of his friends.

00:24:21.000 That's him.

00:24:22.000 He's training with him right there.

00:24:23.000 That's the gym there?

00:24:24.000 Yeah.

00:24:25.000 Oh, that's not what I'm thinking.

00:24:26.000 See, I want to...

00:24:27.000 Damn, that dude is in shape.

00:24:28.000 I want to see...

00:24:29.000 Listen, you want Khalil Ronald Tree Jr. kicking you, you're probably better off in that shape.

00:24:33.000 You'd be fucking...

00:24:35.000 Yeah, you'd be shaped like a tight snowman.

00:24:36.000 So that dude was probably his pads guy that helped him with his pads.

00:24:39.000 He's doing work, man.

00:24:41.000 Damn, look at the legs on that fucking tie.

00:24:43.000 Dude, bro!

00:24:44.000 That dude's thick.

00:24:45.000 He's on that Western diet, son.

00:24:48.000 Yeah.

00:24:49.000 He's like, pass on the pad time, get me the Donald Trump.

00:24:51.000 Pad time, fuck that noise.

00:24:54.000 But there's something to it.

00:24:55.000 I think it's good for the soul.

00:24:56.000 Might be.

00:24:57.000 Sabine over there, you mean?

00:24:58.000 Yeah.

00:24:58.000 There's something about Khalil, man.

00:25:00.000 Oh, this is a...

00:25:01.000 Jamie's doing this just to make us laugh.

00:25:03.000 Thank you, Jamie.

00:25:04.000 Son of a bitch.

00:25:05.000 Shout out to that guy.

00:25:06.000 Yeah.

00:25:08.000 There's something about being in a place where something was invented that must give you some extra juice.

00:25:12.000 Have you done jiu-jitsu in Brazil?

00:25:14.000 No.

00:25:15.000 It's a special place.

00:25:16.000 I mean, they hate white people, but it's a special place.

00:25:18.000 No, they don't.

00:25:18.000 No, they hated me.

00:25:20.000 Especially when you're fighting Noguera doing jiu-jitsu.

00:25:22.000 Of course they're going to hate you if you fight Noguera.

00:25:24.000 Yeah, it was fun.

00:25:25.000 And you're a jiu-jitsu guy.

00:25:26.000 Yeah.

00:25:27.000 Yeah, you came from jiu-jitsu.

00:25:28.000 So for you to fight...

00:25:29.000 That was a thing, right?

00:25:30.000 Like, if you fought a jiu-jitsu guy...

00:25:32.000 And remember the early days?

00:25:33.000 If a jiu-jitsu guy fought a jiu-jitsu guy, it'd be a real issue in the jiu-jitsu community.

00:25:38.000 Like, why don't you fight somebody else?

00:25:39.000 Well, remember with Anderson, he didn't want to fight other Brazilians.

00:25:41.000 Oh, that's right.

00:25:42.000 And we fought, like, Tao's ladies and Damian Maia.

00:25:44.000 It was, like, the worst fights ever.

00:25:46.000 Yes, that's right.

00:25:48.000 Strange.

00:25:48.000 Isn't that weird?

00:25:50.000 The Talos Latis fight, it's almost like you just kind of let him survive.

00:25:54.000 Because he's Brazilian.

00:25:55.000 That's crazy.

00:25:56.000 White people fuck each other.

00:25:58.000 No, I think it's like a...

00:25:59.000 Do you think it's a nationalistic thing?

00:26:01.000 You think they made like...

00:26:02.000 They take care of each other?

00:26:04.000 Yeah.

00:26:05.000 Or do you think it's just that Talos Latis was...

00:26:08.000 Good?

00:26:08.000 He didn't want to take any chances?

00:26:09.000 I don't think so.

00:26:10.000 No, I think it's too much a respect thing.

00:26:12.000 Really?

00:26:12.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:26:12.000 So you think it was a Brazil thing?

00:26:14.000 Although with Vitor Belfort, Anderson Silva was a cool story flick to the face.

00:26:18.000 Yeah.

00:26:19.000 But the thing with Damian Maia was they had a real problem.

00:26:23.000 There was some sort of real animosity between them.

00:26:26.000 Because remember Damien Maia?

00:26:28.000 Oh, with the mask?

00:26:29.000 Yeah.

00:26:29.000 No, no, that was Vitor.

00:26:30.000 You're right.

00:26:31.000 But he was yelling at Damien Maia.

00:26:33.000 Oh, that's right.

00:26:34.000 And Damien was like, this is disrespectful.

00:26:36.000 Brazilians don't act this way.

00:26:37.000 Yeah.

00:26:38.000 There was something going on there when Ashton, when he's fighting other Brazilians, it sucked.

00:26:41.000 And then he blew himself out going after Damien Maia and then coasted for the last few rounds.

00:26:47.000 Remember?

00:26:47.000 Yes.

00:26:48.000 And that was a big deal.

00:26:49.000 Was it in Dubai?

00:26:49.000 It was in Dubai.

00:26:51.000 And Chris Weidman fought on the same card.

00:26:53.000 And BJ Penn.

00:26:54.000 That's when Frankie Edgar beat BJ Penn.

00:26:55.000 That's right.

00:26:56.000 That's a new one in the title.

00:26:57.000 I heard Khabib's next fight might be in Dubai in September.

00:27:00.000 Whoa.

00:27:01.000 Dude, Khabib is...

00:27:03.000 Pack your bag, Dustin.

00:27:04.000 Khabib versus Dustin.

00:27:05.000 That is going to be wild.

00:27:08.000 That's going to be wild.

00:27:09.000 Yeah, that's a tough fucking fight, man.

00:27:12.000 Dustin can crack.

00:27:13.000 Dustin can crack.

00:27:15.000 He can crack.

00:27:16.000 I mean, he's an interesting cat.

00:27:18.000 It's like, how good is he going to be able to fend off that grappling?

00:27:22.000 How good can anyone defend it off?

00:27:23.000 It's going to be hard.

00:27:24.000 No one can.

00:27:25.000 It's going to be hard.

00:27:26.000 I'll tell you what the fight is.

00:27:27.000 I had him on my show as Justin Gaethje.

00:27:29.000 And he was like, dude, I'd love to fight Khabib.

00:27:32.000 He's like, what's he going to do to me?

00:27:33.000 I was like, take you down.

00:27:34.000 He's like, I can wrestle my ass off.

00:27:36.000 And I scramble.

00:27:37.000 That's where he gets guys in the scramble.

00:27:39.000 He goes, that's what I specialize in.

00:27:41.000 He's a wild man.

00:27:43.000 He doesn't like being called wild.

00:27:45.000 I believe he would want to fight.

00:27:47.000 I don't mean wild like he's not calculating, but I mean wild in that he takes risks.

00:27:54.000 Correct.

00:27:55.000 He calculates his ability to perform in those risks, but he forces action.

00:27:59.000 He wants chaos.

00:28:00.000 He forces action.

00:28:02.000 It's definitely technical.

00:28:04.000 But he's a risk-taker.

00:28:06.000 He's not laying back.

00:28:07.000 Like, if we just talked about Anderson Silva versus Talos Latis, that was not a risk-taking fight.

00:28:12.000 Terrible fight.

00:28:12.000 That motherfucker never has fights like that.

00:28:14.000 Never.

00:28:15.000 Just to gauge it, he takes your soul.

00:28:17.000 He says he fights that way because he doesn't have the cardio.

00:28:20.000 He goes, the way I fight, I don't have the cardio to go fight.

00:28:23.000 Like, my style isn't conservative.

00:28:25.000 I have to get it in.

00:28:26.000 Jesus.

00:28:27.000 Well, with Khabib, those are issues, man.

00:28:31.000 Yeah.

00:28:31.000 The motherfucker will go all five.

00:28:32.000 All five.

00:28:33.000 I don't know who's going to beat Khabib.

00:28:35.000 He's big too.

00:28:36.000 I don't know who's going to beat Khabib.

00:28:37.000 He struggled for 55. He struggled.

00:28:39.000 Khabib's scary, man.

00:28:40.000 Until he got his nutrition on track, remember?

00:28:43.000 He'd had some issues.

00:28:44.000 He's a fucking phenomenal grappler.

00:28:47.000 I don't know who's going to beat him.

00:28:48.000 He's so good.

00:28:49.000 His grappling's so good.

00:28:50.000 When he tied up Conor's legs in that first round, I was like, Jesus Christ.

00:28:54.000 This is early on.

00:28:55.000 I think maybe Tony Ferguson.

00:28:56.000 Tony Ferguson has a real good chance of making it interesting because of his own wrestling and his scramble ability.

00:29:02.000 Tony's a wild scramble.

00:29:03.000 Ready for this?

00:29:04.000 Tony Ferguson and Gaethje.

00:29:05.000 They're both available.

00:29:07.000 Everyone else is matched up.

00:29:08.000 Chaos.

00:29:09.000 Chaos.

00:29:10.000 It's pure chaos.

00:29:11.000 But I bet Tony is pissed and wants a shot at the title, which, you know, he was on his way to that when his knee ripped apart at a fucking promotional thing.

00:29:21.000 It's so crazy.

00:29:22.000 Tripping on a wire is a freak incident.

00:29:24.000 Talk about a guy who deserves the title shot.

00:29:27.000 Yes, and a guy who people have kind of forgotten in the mix of all these killers.

00:29:31.000 There's so many 55-pounders that are just straight-up killers now.

00:29:35.000 Monsters.

00:29:35.000 You know, I mean, what a wild division.

00:29:39.000 Dude, when you look at 55, 70, 85, there's never been a better time to be a UFC fan.

00:29:45.000 It is murder's fucking row.

00:29:48.000 It really is, man.

00:29:48.000 You look at it like, oh my god.

00:29:50.000 It really is.

00:29:50.000 Like, I was looking up the matchups for Style Ben, I'm like, what the fuck?

00:29:54.000 These are scary.

00:29:55.000 So many fights.

00:29:56.000 I look at 170. Who's the scariest, if you had to think of Stylebender, is Yoel Romero the scariest fight for him?

00:30:01.000 That's a pretty scary fight.

00:30:02.000 Right, stylistically, right?

00:30:03.000 He's scary for everybody.

00:30:04.000 He's scary for everybody.

00:30:06.000 Still, 40 years old.

00:30:08.000 Jesus Christ.

00:30:09.000 Every bit of it, too, and just monster.

00:30:11.000 Monster.

00:30:11.000 And so explosive.

00:30:13.000 And the fucking wrestling.

00:30:15.000 His wrestling is from another planet.

00:30:17.000 And he's getting explosive with his striking.

00:30:20.000 Yeah.

00:30:20.000 He'll fuck you up.

00:30:21.000 He'll spinning backfist you.

00:30:23.000 You always got to worry about him exploding.

00:30:25.000 God, he's a fucking nightmare, man.

00:30:25.000 Because you got to worry about him exploding.

00:30:27.000 If you try to catch a break, if you're standing on the outside and you're both breathing and you're moving, you're like, maybe this is the time I'm going to catch a break.

00:30:35.000 And then all of a sudden, he flying knees you in the face, and you didn't see it coming.

00:30:38.000 And whether you're Whitaker or Stylebender, whoever wins that fight in Australia, you got Yo Romero next.

00:30:43.000 Yeah.

00:30:43.000 He's number one.

00:30:44.000 I'm sure he's going to fight before then, but...

00:30:46.000 How much longer can he do that?

00:30:48.000 When's father time go, Yo, you're special, but let's go.

00:30:51.000 Yeah.

00:30:51.000 When is it?

00:30:52.000 You know?

00:30:53.000 But Whitaker also, the thing with Whitaker is he gets seriously injured after every fight and has to have surgery.

00:30:59.000 When's that going to catch up with him?

00:31:01.000 Well, I mean...

00:31:01.000 Stylebender's healthy as fuck.

00:31:03.000 It's true, but I think...

00:31:03.000 Allergic to shellfish, but healthy as fuck.

00:31:05.000 When you're that good and you go that hard, I mean, to train as hard as he must train to be as good as Robert Whitaker is, the human body, like, look, Cain Velasquez is the great example of that, right?

00:31:16.000 Cain was never that explosive like those guys.

00:31:19.000 Right, but he has unbelievable work ethic.

00:31:22.000 That's part of what it is, man.

00:31:24.000 It's just the ability to push through pain, the ability to just keep working and working and working and grind and attack.

00:31:31.000 That way when you're in those fights, a guy like Cain would put it on people to the point where they couldn't believe it was real.

00:31:38.000 They're like, this doesn't even make sense.

00:31:40.000 How is he coming after me still?

00:31:41.000 How is he not tired?

00:31:43.000 What the fuck is going on here?

00:31:45.000 But you know who can do that and decides whether or not he's going to do it?

00:31:49.000 John Jones.

00:31:50.000 John Jones can do that.

00:31:51.000 And not suffering from those kind of injuries.

00:31:53.000 And John goes, what style do you do?

00:31:55.000 You're a grinder?

00:31:55.000 Let me show you how to grind.

00:31:57.000 Oh, you're a striking expert?

00:31:59.000 Let me show you how to strike.

00:32:00.000 Yeah.

00:32:01.000 He's so fucking good, man.

00:32:02.000 Why is Stylebender and Jon Jones, why are they talking shit to each other?

00:32:06.000 Do you know what started it?

00:32:07.000 Yeah.

00:32:09.000 Jon did a...

00:32:10.000 Originally, it did start with Jon.

00:32:12.000 He came out in an interview and goes, you know, Stylebender's looking good.

00:32:15.000 He's fighting 85. It's only a matter of time before I think we cross paths, which is silly.

00:32:20.000 And then Stylebender, I think TMZ asked him.

00:32:23.000 He's like, oh, I already beat one GOAT. I need another one.

00:32:26.000 You know, I'm just getting started.

00:32:27.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:32:27.000 But if you're John, why are you even engaging in this?

00:32:30.000 Why are you punching it down?

00:32:31.000 It's great for John.

00:32:34.000 It's great for John because he wants to let everybody know, hey, I'm the best motherfucker on the planet.

00:32:39.000 But we know this.

00:32:40.000 Yeah, but he wants to let everybody know.

00:32:42.000 Like when there's a car that's about someone, I mean, he's active now, right?

00:32:45.000 John Jones got momentum now.

00:32:46.000 Think about where he's at right now.

00:32:48.000 He's in his 30s, right?

00:32:50.000 Long-ass fucking career as champion, as the best ever.

00:32:53.000 He's on a run right now.

00:32:54.000 That's what I think.

00:32:55.000 I think they took it away from him for all those months when he tested positive, that long suspension, all that time off, all money that he should have made, all the legacy that he could have laid down, and now I think he's just fucking chasing it.

00:33:08.000 I'm all about it.

00:33:09.000 100% all about it.

00:33:10.000 However, talking to a 183-pounder is kind of silly.

00:33:14.000 Yeah, but if you say that in an interview, I don't think that's that disrespectful.

00:33:17.000 I don't either.

00:33:18.000 The way he said it is that one day maybe we're going to fight.

00:33:20.000 Yeah, but then Stylebender, TMZ asked him, they don't know shit about fighting.

00:33:24.000 They're like, oh, this guy's big, this guy's big, they're both black, let's fight.

00:33:26.000 They have no idea.

00:33:27.000 That's what they think.

00:33:29.000 So then it gets picked up.

00:33:30.000 But then also, I think John Jones is the hot senior in high school, and Stylebender's the new freshman who's hot, and it's like Mean Girls.

00:33:39.000 Like, fuck that dude.

00:33:39.000 It's also, I wonder how much of this is like they all agree is good for business.

00:33:44.000 It's entertainment.

00:33:44.000 Yeah, it's good for business.

00:33:46.000 Well, look at Conor.

00:33:46.000 Anytime there's a fight, blast something out.

00:33:48.000 Well, not just blast something out.

00:33:49.000 I mean, Conor's real good about that, but the way he's able to turn these shit-talking back and forth into publicity for fights.

00:33:58.000 There is real shit talking.

00:34:00.000 It is psychological warfare.

00:34:02.000 But it also hypes people up to no end.

00:34:04.000 Like the Khabib fight.

00:34:05.000 All the craziness that led to that.

00:34:07.000 Obviously that backfired when Khabib tried to fucking attack him after it was over.

00:34:11.000 And it jumped into the crowd.

00:34:13.000 And all the other people punched him in the head.

00:34:15.000 And all that craziness that happened.

00:34:16.000 Khabib's never been bigger.

00:34:16.000 Yeah.

00:34:17.000 Look.

00:34:17.000 Khabib's never been bigger.

00:34:18.000 Conor's never been bigger.

00:34:19.000 Wow.

00:34:21.000 Yeah, I mean...

00:34:22.000 He needs to fight.

00:34:23.000 He needs to fight, but he's still...

00:34:25.000 You guys know this.

00:34:25.000 I ride Conor's nuts.

00:34:26.000 I ride Kim Peeb's nuts, Stylebender's nuts.

00:34:28.000 But with Conor, I'm like, God, hopefully something gets lined up.

00:34:31.000 Yeah, but what I'm trying to say is that shit-talking...

00:34:33.000 Keeps you relevant.

00:34:34.000 Yeah, it's worth something.

00:34:36.000 It's worth something to both of them.

00:34:37.000 Agree.

00:34:38.000 Like, if Stylebender and Jon Jones did decide to fight one day, that shit's worth something to both of them.

00:34:42.000 Agree.

00:34:43.000 Yeah.

00:34:44.000 Agree.

00:34:45.000 There's a big gap between 85 and 205 though, man.

00:34:47.000 John's a giant 205-er.

00:34:50.000 John could beat up any heavyweight in the world with ease.

00:34:53.000 Could beat up probably six of them in a night.

00:34:55.000 So to fight a 183-er is weird.

00:35:00.000 Yeah.

00:35:00.000 Well, obviously he wouldn't be 183. If Stylebender was going to do it, I'm sure he'd want to put some weight on.

00:35:05.000 I imagine.

00:35:07.000 That's such a nightmare.

00:35:08.000 But that's what makes Stylebender special, because those guys, same as Max Holloway, he goes, I'll fight anyone.

00:35:12.000 Yeah, sure.

00:35:13.000 That's what it's all about.

00:35:14.000 But it also, and this is not a knock on Santos or the level competition, but at 205, there's really nothing there to get excited about.

00:35:21.000 There's just not.

00:35:22.000 You look at the other divisions...

00:35:24.000 Santo's going to be a fun fight.

00:35:26.000 He's going to be a plus 700, plus 800 underdog.

00:35:30.000 But I like that John's active.

00:35:31.000 I like watching John beat everyone's ass.

00:35:34.000 Yeah, it's one of those things now where you've got to find contenders for John, right?

00:35:39.000 Because no one's really standing out.

00:35:41.000 Rockhold would be cool at 205. Heavyweight's the place.

00:35:45.000 Dominic Reyes just beat...

00:35:46.000 Who did he beat?

00:35:47.000 Did he fight Volkhorn?

00:35:47.000 Who was Demir?

00:35:48.000 No.

00:35:48.000 Yeah, he did.

00:35:49.000 And I didn't think he beat him.

00:35:51.000 And I'm a Reyes fan, but I don't think he beat Ozdemir.

00:35:53.000 I thought he lost.

00:35:54.000 That was a weird decision.

00:35:56.000 So that one is...

00:35:58.000 Look, Volkan's a very good fighter, no doubt about it.

00:36:01.000 But you saw what Daniel Cormier did to him.

00:36:03.000 Neither one of them are ready for Jon Jones.

00:36:05.000 Not ready for Jon Jones.

00:36:06.000 They're not even the same realm.

00:36:07.000 Right, but we were looking at Dominic and we were like, that kid's really talented, he's got massive potential, and I still think he does.

00:36:13.000 Oh yeah, he's a stud.

00:36:15.000 He's just going to get better from this.

00:36:16.000 Johnny Walker?

00:36:17.000 Right, but that guy might have a blown shoulder.

00:36:20.000 Let's say he doesn't though.

00:36:21.000 If he doesn't, here's the thing about that guy.

00:36:22.000 He's still four fights away from Jon Jones.

00:36:24.000 He might be four fights away.

00:36:25.000 Here's the thing.

00:36:25.000 He might knock four people into another dimension on the way to Jon Jones.

00:36:29.000 Like, guys, something special, man.

00:36:30.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:36:31.000 But you've got to knock those four guys out so we can sell this thing.

00:36:33.000 You do.

00:36:34.000 He does.

00:36:34.000 I mean, he's put away two top-level guys pretty spectacularly.

00:36:39.000 And, I mean, you look at the way he fights, too.

00:36:43.000 He's loose and weird and then, boom, jumps on you.

00:36:46.000 It's so special.

00:36:47.000 Power, dude.

00:36:48.000 Fucking crazy power.

00:36:49.000 Yeah.

00:36:50.000 I think with John, his team's smart.

00:36:52.000 They're going, no, we know heavyweight's there.

00:36:53.000 We're going to clean out 205. Ain't nobody beating us.

00:36:57.000 We're going to clean out, so we're considered the greatest of all time.

00:37:00.000 Then we'll go to heavyweight and get paid.

00:37:02.000 Well, you know, they wanted this fight.

00:37:04.000 They thought it would be a good fight with Tiago.

00:37:06.000 And I think one of the things that it's a good fight, one of the reasons why it's a good fight is Tiago can shut anyone's lights out.

00:37:13.000 He knows he can shut anyone's lights out.

00:37:15.000 That motherfucker throws for the bleacher.

00:37:18.000 Didn't he used to fight at 70?

00:37:20.000 No, 85. I mean 85, right?

00:37:21.000 Yeah, 85. Struggled to make 85. Look, he's big.

00:37:24.000 He's big.

00:37:25.000 He's big.

00:37:25.000 A big dude.

00:37:26.000 But the fucking power that that guy has.

00:37:28.000 Like in the Manoa fight...

00:37:30.000 And he just swings, man.

00:37:31.000 He swings wild.

00:37:33.000 Now, John is not going to fight him the way Mano will fight him.

00:37:36.000 Yeah, I can't touch him.

00:37:36.000 You know, John is going to keep him on the outside with those kicks.

00:37:39.000 Take him down when he wants.

00:37:40.000 And if he decides to clinch him, he'll clinch him, wrestle him, take him down.

00:37:42.000 John's ground and pound is horrific.

00:37:44.000 His top game is off the charts.

00:37:45.000 Submissions are great.

00:37:46.000 Submissions, everything.

00:37:48.000 Striking's better.

00:37:48.000 Elbows are from hell.

00:37:50.000 From the top, John Jones gets on top of you.

00:37:52.000 The best.

00:37:53.000 You're getting elbowed to oblivion.

00:37:54.000 And they're coming one after the other, after the other, after the other.

00:37:58.000 But in the wild exchange where he has to be careful is that that Tiago dude, Tiago Santos will swing with everything.

00:38:07.000 He will throw it all in there.

00:38:09.000 John's not even going to engage in that.

00:38:11.000 You're not even going to see the opportunity.

00:38:12.000 That's what makes him so special.

00:38:14.000 Those guys that go, that's where your one place is to win?

00:38:17.000 Watch this.

00:38:17.000 And he just cancels it out.

00:38:19.000 I don't think that he would willingly wade into a firefight.

00:38:24.000 But it could happen.

00:38:25.000 But it could happen.

00:38:25.000 That's how you sell a fight, sir.

00:38:27.000 It could happen.

00:38:27.000 See, what John is going to do, if I had to guess, is try to further cement his legacy.

00:38:32.000 He's going to fight the best way he can.

00:38:33.000 He's got great coaches.

00:38:34.000 They know what the fuck they're doing.

00:38:35.000 He's going to go in there.

00:38:36.000 He's going to kick that dude.

00:38:37.000 If he decides to clinch with him, he's going to have a giant advantage in wrestling.

00:38:41.000 But he's got to be careful on the way in, man.

00:38:43.000 That dude will swing.

00:38:44.000 He will try to kill you.

00:38:46.000 He swings in a different way.

00:38:48.000 He swings like, this ain't making it to the fifth round.

00:38:51.000 There's no fifth round.

00:38:52.000 He's not even looking.

00:38:53.000 That guy is just, every shot, he's trying to take the lights out.

00:38:56.000 No, I'm definitely going to watch it.

00:38:58.000 He's a wild motherfucker, man.

00:38:59.000 I think this is an interesting fight.

00:39:01.000 Jon Jones should be the strong favorite.

00:39:03.000 He should be a giant favorite.

00:39:04.000 But it doesn't mean it's not going to be interesting.

00:39:06.000 Because this dude's style.

00:39:08.000 Because he's so fucking wild.

00:39:09.000 The question is going to be, how does he perform?

00:39:11.000 How does he perform when that octagon door shuts?

00:39:14.000 And you look over, you see it's Jon Jones.

00:39:15.000 And title fight.

00:39:16.000 The title fight.

00:39:17.000 But I think one of the reasons why John talking shit to Stylebender is one of the pros is we're talking about him, right?

00:39:24.000 Because we probably wouldn't have talked about him versus Santos on this show if it wasn't happening.

00:39:30.000 It keeps him relevant.

00:39:31.000 You know, he is...

00:39:33.000 Probably the biggest name in the sport now, outside Connor.

00:39:36.000 The guy who's the most active, him and could be probably the biggest names.

00:39:38.000 Him talking shit to Stylebender.

00:39:40.000 I actually think it helps Stylebender too, right?

00:39:42.000 Because now he's associated with the greatest of all time.

00:39:44.000 He wants to be the greatest of all time.

00:39:47.000 And it's going to get there, and I can't fucking wait.

00:39:49.000 When he goes, alright, I'm ready for heavyweight.

00:39:51.000 Him versus Francis?

00:39:53.000 Dude, what are we going to do?

00:39:56.000 What are we going to do?

00:39:57.000 Him versus Stipe?

00:39:59.000 Kane?

00:40:00.000 Well, they're probably...

00:40:01.000 God!

00:40:01.000 If the Brock Lesnar deal doesn't get done, the talk is Stipe versus DC. Because the Brock Lesnar deal is not done.

00:40:09.000 Now, in that whole process...

00:40:11.000 Because Brock lost?

00:40:12.000 Yeah.

00:40:13.000 No!

00:40:14.000 That's not real.

00:40:15.000 What?

00:40:15.000 WWE. Fuck!

00:40:17.000 You didn't know?

00:40:17.000 I thought it was real.

00:40:18.000 I'm sorry.

00:40:19.000 Did you see Game of Thrones?

00:40:20.000 I'll give you some more spoilers.

00:40:21.000 Dude, I did!

00:40:23.000 Bet your sweet ass I did.

00:40:24.000 Don't talk about it.

00:40:25.000 People get angry.

00:40:25.000 I know.

00:40:26.000 Shut up!

00:40:26.000 There are dragons.

00:40:27.000 It's DVRing!

00:40:29.000 Dragons are real.

00:40:31.000 They think that Brock might not fight.

00:40:35.000 They don't know.

00:40:36.000 Brock has to decide.

00:40:37.000 This is something he definitely wants to do.

00:40:39.000 Hey Brock, quit fucking giving us blue balls and get the fuck in there.

00:40:42.000 Get the fuck out, dude.

00:40:42.000 You know, he's got to make the commitment.

00:40:44.000 And I know he's been training.

00:40:45.000 He's been training a lot.

00:40:46.000 And he's trained with some high-level wrestlers.

00:40:49.000 I like Brock.

00:40:49.000 I hope it happens.

00:40:50.000 Brock DC? July?

00:40:52.000 What's up?

00:40:53.000 That July card is stacked.

00:40:55.000 You've got to be careful with Brock.

00:40:57.000 Remember when he tagged Randy Couture and dropped him and hammer-fisted him into oblivion?

00:41:01.000 Yeah, Randy was 48 years old, but I hear ya.

00:41:06.000 I hear ya.

00:41:07.000 I like how you sell me on these fights.

00:41:09.000 Remember how he smashed Frank Mir?

00:41:11.000 Yeah.

00:41:11.000 That was terrifying.

00:41:13.000 Remember?

00:41:14.000 Him and Frank hated each other?

00:41:15.000 And he fucked Frank up?

00:41:17.000 Well, it's because Frank got him with that knee bar, and he tapped.

00:41:21.000 The referee didn't stop it.

00:41:22.000 Dana White says, Steepy Miocic, not Brock Lesnar, next and last.

00:41:26.000 When did this happen?

00:41:27.000 What's that?

00:41:27.000 The pre-conference, maybe?

00:41:29.000 Oh, wow.

00:41:30.000 But that's just a headline.

00:41:32.000 He goes, we don't know what Brock's going to do, but if it doesn't happen, it's Stipe.

00:41:36.000 Oh, that's just one of them.

00:41:37.000 They got us!

00:41:38.000 They got you!

00:41:39.000 They got us.

00:41:39.000 You know better, Jamie.

00:41:40.000 But it worked.

00:41:41.000 See if we can listen to it, whatever.

00:41:43.000 Click-baity motherfuckers.

00:41:44.000 They got us.

00:41:45.000 I love Stipe.

00:41:46.000 Stipe DC. I'm like, alright.

00:41:48.000 Yeah.

00:41:49.000 Yeah.

00:41:49.000 I need something spicy, man.

00:41:51.000 I get what you're saying, and I get the Brock Lesnar appeal.

00:41:54.000 I would rather see Stipe.

00:41:56.000 Stipe.

00:41:56.000 You know why?

00:41:56.000 Because you're a purist, and that's why I like you, but not me.

00:41:59.000 I'm like the Prentice Hilton of MMA. First of all- Not me, sir.

00:42:02.000 Out of respect- I know.

00:42:04.000 He deserves it.

00:42:05.000 He won.

00:42:06.000 He defended the title more than any human being that's ever held it.

00:42:09.000 He's the number one guy in the heavyweight division.

00:42:12.000 So you have to rate him the greatest heavyweight of all time.

00:42:15.000 If you look about accomplishments, he's the greatest UFC heavyweight of all time.

00:42:19.000 DC's not?

00:42:20.000 In terms of accomplishments.

00:42:22.000 Just because he's done it four times.

00:42:24.000 Okay.

00:42:24.000 You know, DC beat him.

00:42:26.000 Obviously, DC is supposed to...

00:42:27.000 I mean, if you had to rank him, you know, like, right now, like, one through ten...

00:42:33.000 Think about DC's beat Roy, Frank...

00:42:35.000 DC's number one, because he's the champion and he knocked him out.

00:42:38.000 To say he's number two would be silly.

00:42:39.000 But to say, like, the all-time greatest, most accomplished heavyweight...

00:42:43.000 Your boy Dana says DC. That's what Stipe is.

00:42:45.000 Okay, the all-time most accomplished greatest heavyweight is Stipe.

00:42:49.000 You've got to take into account.

00:42:51.000 Well, Kane never defended as many times as Stipe did.

00:42:55.000 The question is, did Kane beat the better guys?

00:42:58.000 Did he beat Junior Dos Santos when Junior was young?

00:43:01.000 Before, he'd been through those wars with Kane, right?

00:43:04.000 Because by the time Stipe got him, Junior had been in some wars.

00:43:07.000 And Junior has looked really good lately.

00:43:09.000 He looks amazing.

00:43:10.000 But you can never discount that damage.

00:43:12.000 I'm not saying that he's not as good now.

00:43:15.000 I think he's still phenomenal now.

00:43:16.000 But the Bam Bam Tuivasa fight, knocking out that dude, that dude's tough as shit, man.

00:43:22.000 Knocking that motherfucker out and the way he did it, he looks good, man.

00:43:25.000 Dude, is JDS Francis of ESPN card?

00:43:29.000 That's not a pay-per-view.

00:43:31.000 I think that's fucking...

00:43:32.000 Is he ESPN? I think so.

00:43:33.000 We should do a fucking companion.

00:43:35.000 We should do it if we're around.

00:43:36.000 And he fought Derrick Lewis, right?

00:43:39.000 Yeah.

00:43:39.000 Stopped Derrick Lewis.

00:43:40.000 Stopped Derrick Lewis.

00:43:41.000 Yeah.

00:43:41.000 Look, Junior Dos Santos still is an amazing fighter.

00:43:45.000 That's on the July card.

00:43:46.000 Ah, fuck.

00:43:48.000 So...

00:43:49.000 I'm gonna watch it.

00:43:51.000 When Stipe beat him...

00:43:52.000 But you know what?

00:43:52.000 Stipe can knock anybody out like that, too.

00:43:54.000 It's hard to say.

00:43:55.000 You know what the problem is with Stipe?

00:43:57.000 The problem is...

00:43:58.000 DC's fought, what, twice since their fight?

00:44:01.000 Stipe's just been chilling.

00:44:02.000 Well, he's been wanting this rematch, man.

00:44:04.000 I get it, but it's a risky thing when you're a former heavyweight champion and you're gonna take a fight when you rightfully deserve a rematch.

00:44:13.000 And what if you get hurt while you're taking this fight?

00:44:16.000 What if you have this fight and you get hurt?

00:44:18.000 And then you have knee surgery, and then you're out for another year, and then DC loses it, and DC retires.

00:44:22.000 He wants to fight him again.

00:44:24.000 And the way to fight him again is to hold out.

00:44:26.000 To hold out this whole time?

00:44:27.000 I don't know, man.

00:44:27.000 Obviously, the UFC... He wants to fight DC again.

00:44:29.000 That's the way.

00:44:30.000 Well, now, in hindsight, because Lesnar and John Jones are not going to heavyweight, but he's the third choice in all this.

00:44:37.000 Fuck waiting for that.

00:44:38.000 I thought it was very interesting that John said that to Stipe...

00:44:42.000 How weird is that?

00:44:43.000 I don't think it's weird.

00:44:44.000 I think it's the same thing.

00:44:45.000 The same thing we do with Stylebender.

00:44:48.000 He's just fucking with everybody.

00:44:49.000 He's getting his name out there.

00:44:50.000 He's learning from Connor.

00:44:52.000 See, I think there's more to it.

00:44:54.000 What?

00:44:54.000 I think UFC was fishing and went, hey, you down to fight Stipe?

00:44:57.000 And John went, yeah, fuck up, Stipe.

00:44:59.000 And they went, Stipe, you down to fight Johnny?

00:45:00.000 Yeah, fuck up, John.

00:45:01.000 I think there's more to it.

00:45:02.000 You think so?

00:45:03.000 Yeah.

00:45:03.000 What makes you say that?

00:45:04.000 I don't know.

00:45:05.000 No reason at all.

00:45:06.000 Maybe they did have some preliminary discussions as to whether or not the two would engage in fisticuffs.

00:45:13.000 Maybe they did.

00:45:14.000 That's a great fight.

00:45:15.000 It's a great fight.

00:45:16.000 Stipe deserves it 100%.

00:45:18.000 He deserves big fights, man.

00:45:19.000 Look, the guy doesn't deserve to be forgotten.

00:45:22.000 No, not at all.

00:45:23.000 But again...

00:45:23.000 His Francis and Gano fight was one of the most impressive heavyweight title defenses.

00:45:28.000 I agree.

00:45:29.000 Because Francis was on fire.

00:45:31.000 He was so dangerous.

00:45:33.000 Do they have Francis ranked ahead of him now?

00:45:35.000 Just be disrespectful.

00:45:36.000 But Francis has done work.

00:45:38.000 Stipe's got to be the number one contender.

00:45:40.000 No.

00:45:40.000 What?

00:45:42.000 Stipe's number one?

00:45:43.000 Yeah.

00:45:44.000 Come on, man.

00:45:44.000 Have to be, right?

00:45:45.000 Have to be.

00:45:45.000 You never know with the rankings.

00:45:46.000 Have to be.

00:45:47.000 Have to be.

00:45:49.000 Stipe and Francis.

00:45:50.000 Yeah.

00:45:51.000 Stipe beat Francis.

00:45:52.000 It's that simple.

00:45:53.000 Stipe beat Junior.

00:45:54.000 It's that simple.

00:45:56.000 I mean, come on, man.

00:45:57.000 Dude, Francis Dos Santos.

00:46:00.000 Oh my god.

00:46:01.000 Dude, I can't believe that's even happening.

00:46:03.000 Boy, he gets dicey down that heavyweight.

00:46:05.000 After six, it gets dicey.

00:46:08.000 Look, man.

00:46:10.000 Francis...

00:46:10.000 There's only 15 heavyweights in the world.

00:46:12.000 Francis with takedown defense...

00:46:15.000 Francis with an understanding of what it's like to fight five rounds.

00:46:18.000 And Francis with a little bit more experience.

00:46:21.000 And good...

00:46:22.000 Dude, him with Dos Santos.

00:46:23.000 Fucking luck.

00:46:24.000 Stipe booked a jiu-jitsu match, I saw.

00:46:27.000 Did he really?

00:46:27.000 Against who?

00:46:28.000 Dude, imagine you blow your knee out in a jiu-jitsu match, and you can't fight for the title.

00:46:32.000 Those jiu-jitsu matches are backfiring, trust me.

00:46:34.000 They're rough, man, and those big dudes want to fuck you up.

00:46:37.000 Depends who he's going against.

00:46:39.000 Right, that's true.

00:46:40.000 Fight to win 110 in Cleveland against...

00:46:43.000 Please don't say it's a leg lock guy.

00:46:45.000 Please don't say it's a leg lock guy.

00:46:46.000 Oh no!

00:46:48.000 Or Cyborg.

00:46:49.000 Cyborg will rip your legs apart.

00:46:52.000 Or Gordon Ryan.

00:46:53.000 Gordon Ryan can't really do that right now, right?

00:46:55.000 Or Gary Tonin?

00:46:56.000 Gordon Ryan just tore his knee.

00:46:58.000 No, there's no info on his opponent.

00:47:00.000 Oh, okay.

00:47:00.000 That's because he's probably booking a fight.

00:47:01.000 He's like, see ya.

00:47:02.000 Dude, your boy Ben Askren is fighting.

00:47:05.000 Yeah, but...

00:47:06.000 Masvidal.

00:47:07.000 He's fighting Masvidal, but I'm saying he's doing a wrestling match with Jordan Burroughs, right?

00:47:11.000 Yes!

00:47:11.000 Isn't that crazy?

00:47:12.000 God, man.

00:47:14.000 That's like May 6th, I think.

00:47:16.000 You know, if Ben Askren can really hang with Jordan Burrow still...

00:47:21.000 Dude.

00:47:22.000 Yeah.

00:47:23.000 Insane.

00:47:24.000 Because everybody who rolls with him, I've never even clinched with him, but everybody who's done everything with him...

00:47:31.000 The closest I came to a clinch is like, that hug you do when you bro hug a dude.

00:47:36.000 Get the over-under a little bit just to feel it out.

00:47:38.000 But they say that it's like he's got four arms.

00:47:41.000 They say, dude, it's ridiculous.

00:47:43.000 Dean Thomas was telling me.

00:47:44.000 Dean Thomas was saying, dude, it's ridiculous.

00:47:46.000 It's like it doesn't even make sense.

00:47:47.000 Wallywops, world champions, we all know.

00:47:49.000 Yeah, just ragdolls people.

00:47:50.000 That's how good his wrestling is.

00:47:52.000 I mean, if you see that fight with Robbie Lawler, the fucking bombs that guy took.

00:47:57.000 It's fucked up early, man.

00:47:58.000 And the fact that he still figured out a way to get a hold of Robbie Lawler's neck.

00:48:02.000 He still figured out a way to get him into that headlock.

00:48:04.000 And Robbie knew he wanted to clinch with him.

00:48:06.000 He couldn't keep him off of him.

00:48:07.000 Dude, I was sweating in that fight because you and I hyped him up so much.

00:48:10.000 I was like, oh, please don't get starched in the first round.

00:48:13.000 It's still a super controversial ending to me.

00:48:15.000 You had Herb on.

00:48:16.000 What did he say?

00:48:17.000 Well, Herb said that, first of all, Herb Dean is the shit.

00:48:22.000 Nice guy.

00:48:23.000 Couldn't be nicer.

00:48:24.000 Great guy.

00:48:25.000 But I love his perspective.

00:48:27.000 He's so laid back.

00:48:28.000 His ego is so healthy.

00:48:30.000 When he talks about things, you don't see any...

00:48:33.000 It's very reasoned.

00:48:36.000 It's like a Buddhist sloth.

00:48:37.000 But he's just chilled out.

00:48:39.000 And he's very self-deprecating and chilled out about it.

00:48:42.000 But he had a very good point.

00:48:43.000 He was like...

00:48:44.000 That's not just a manipulation of the neck, like, in terms of, like, cutting off the carotid artery.

00:48:49.000 He's like, this is a manipulation of the spine.

00:48:51.000 It's like a bit of a neck crank.

00:48:52.000 He was talking about, like, you look how he's got a hold of the head, and how he goes...

00:48:57.000 What I'm concerned with is if someone's going unconscious from some nerve shit.

00:49:02.000 Oh, wow.

00:49:03.000 Yeah, like, from a neck crank.

00:49:04.000 Like, apparently, he had seen a guy who had gotten neck cranked like that, and then afterwards, the guy couldn't walk.

00:49:11.000 He, like, couldn't move.

00:49:12.000 It came back...

00:49:13.000 But for moments, he couldn't move.

00:49:16.000 See, this is just shit we don't even think about.

00:49:17.000 Exactly.

00:49:18.000 That's why he's Herb Dean.

00:49:20.000 He's the gold standard.

00:49:21.000 He's the gold standard.

00:49:22.000 It's Big John McCarthy and him, and Big John doesn't do it anymore.

00:49:24.000 So it's Herb Dean's numero uno.

00:49:26.000 And just that, when you think about it, and Askren says, what he says is that, see, that's nasty, dude.

00:49:33.000 That looks terrible.

00:49:34.000 That's nasty.

00:49:35.000 The way he's holding on to the head like that and cranking your neck, I like that they're not rematching.

00:49:41.000 It's a very bad position.

00:49:41.000 I like that the UFC went, oh, alright, we're good.

00:49:43.000 Yeah.

00:49:44.000 I dig that.

00:49:45.000 I get it.

00:49:46.000 I want to see it again.

00:49:47.000 I disagree.

00:49:49.000 I think that I agree with Herb Stoppage, and I see that the arm went limp, but then the thumb came up.

00:49:58.000 But then as soon as he let go, Robbie jumped up.

00:50:00.000 Usman had me convinced that Robbie was never out.

00:50:05.000 But Herb had me convinced that it was too dangerous for him to allow it to continue once the arm dropped in that weird way.

00:50:12.000 So do you side with Herb?

00:50:13.000 You have to side with Herb.

00:50:14.000 Yeah.

00:50:14.000 In that situation.

00:50:15.000 He's the expert.

00:50:15.000 You have to side with Herb.

00:50:16.000 Because he's right.

00:50:17.000 Because that is a special circumstance.

00:50:19.000 See, I looked at it in terms, and I didn't even consider this when I was talking to Usman, that I looked at it in terms of, it's just a choke.

00:50:26.000 Yeah.

00:50:26.000 Me too.

00:50:27.000 No, it's a neck crank.

00:50:27.000 Me too.

00:50:29.000 So...

00:50:30.000 But still, I'd love to see it again.

00:50:32.000 I'd like to see it next.

00:50:33.000 So if they both win, because Askren Masvidal?

00:50:37.000 I know.

00:50:38.000 That doesn't get your dick hard?

00:50:39.000 No, Askren Masvidal is wild.

00:50:41.000 And then let's say Askren wins that, which is a tough fight to win.

00:50:43.000 That's a tough fight.

00:50:44.000 And then say Woodley and Lawler, say Lawler wins that, then they fight, it's even bigger.

00:50:49.000 Woodley versus Lawler, though, that's a tall order.

00:50:52.000 Yes.

00:50:53.000 You know, after Woodley knocked him out.

00:50:54.000 Well, it's a tall order for both of them.

00:50:55.000 For both fights.

00:50:56.000 It's a tough fight.

00:50:56.000 For both fighters.

00:50:57.000 It's a tough fight to call either way.

00:51:00.000 Yeah.

00:51:00.000 I'm really interested to see how Woodley bounces back, but he's been saying all the right things.

00:51:05.000 I love Woodley.

00:51:06.000 I love Woodley, too.

00:51:07.000 And one of the things that I love that he said, he said he didn't realize the value of the title until it was gone, and now he really understands it.

00:51:13.000 I mean, I just think he really understands it now that it's not there anymore.

00:51:17.000 He's not the champ anymore.

00:51:18.000 And to get beaten in a...

00:51:20.000 It's not like a fight.

00:51:22.000 You could make a rematch with Kelvin and Stylebender in six months.

00:51:28.000 True.

00:51:28.000 Back and forth.

00:51:29.000 Yeah, you can make that rematch.

00:51:30.000 Kelvin knocked him down.

00:51:31.000 Kelvin hurt him.

00:51:32.000 That wasn't that kind of fight.

00:51:33.000 No.

00:51:34.000 Usman looked so good.

00:51:35.000 Different fight.

00:51:36.000 Usman looked spectacular.

00:51:38.000 Former champions Tyron Woodley and Robbie Lawler to meet in UFC main event.

00:51:41.000 Yeah, that's what we're talking about.

00:51:43.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:43.000 It's booked.

00:51:44.000 Yeah, it's booked.

00:51:45.000 Yeah, that's what we're talking about.

00:51:46.000 Minneapolis, right?

00:51:47.000 Yeah, no.

00:51:49.000 I'm not going to be there for that one.

00:51:50.000 It's a fight night?

00:51:51.000 Yeah.

00:51:52.000 June 29th, Target Center.

00:51:53.000 That's a hell of a fight.

00:51:54.000 Imagine that.

00:51:55.000 That's a fight night.

00:51:56.000 Two former world champions.

00:51:58.000 And, bro, Robbie Longler, physically, in that last fight, shredded.

00:52:02.000 He said he had this crazy strength and conditioning program.

00:52:04.000 Super motivated, you know?

00:52:06.000 Dude, we haven't talked about this on air.

00:52:08.000 We talked a little bit at the Comedy Store.

00:52:10.000 How about your boy T.J. Dillashaw?

00:52:11.000 It's both our boys.

00:52:12.000 Yeah, it's not good.

00:52:13.000 Did you see his apology?

00:52:14.000 Yeah, I did.

00:52:15.000 What'd you think?

00:52:16.000 Well, I mean, at least he's just straight up admitting it.

00:52:19.000 I think that's what you have to do, because then you're kind of like, yeah, I fucked up.

00:52:22.000 Then people can't really come at you.

00:52:23.000 Yeah, I mean, he's being honest about it.

00:52:25.000 Oh, I do have to correct something.

00:52:28.000 Someone wrote an article that said that Cody Garbrandt found out that TJ tested positive for his fight, too, and Cody went crazy.

00:52:36.000 I think I got duped by a click-baity article.

00:52:39.000 No, we all got duped.

00:52:40.000 Everyone thought that.

00:52:41.000 I think somebody got us with a click-baity article.

00:52:43.000 But everyone did.

00:52:44.000 But I should have been more responsible.

00:52:45.000 So my apologies to TJ. So I don't think there's been another one that they tested him on that he's positive.

00:52:51.000 They're looking into it now.

00:52:53.000 Here's the thing.

00:52:54.000 This is something that I know.

00:52:57.000 EPO is not always tested for.

00:52:59.000 Correct.

00:53:00.000 Did you see Dana?

00:53:01.000 What'd he say?

00:53:02.000 Because USADA's expensive as fuck.

00:53:04.000 He goes, hold on.

00:53:05.000 You guys aren't...

00:53:05.000 He didn't know.

00:53:06.000 He goes, you guys aren't testing for EPO every time.

00:53:08.000 We pay this much money for you num-nups to show up, guys, at three in the morning and test them.

00:53:13.000 You're not testing every time and we pay this much.

00:53:15.000 He goes, I had no idea.

00:53:17.000 Yeah.

00:53:18.000 Well, time to cancel USADA. Thanks, boys.

00:53:20.000 Thanks, boys.

00:53:20.000 Thanks for playing.

00:53:21.000 See ya.

00:53:22.000 Everything's been looking good.

00:53:23.000 Jeff, take it from here.

00:53:23.000 Come back.

00:53:24.000 Be cool, bro.

00:53:25.000 Yeah, next thing you know.

00:53:27.000 Everybody's back looking thick and juicy.

00:53:30.000 I guess what they're going to do is they're going to go back and see if they still have the samples for when he did beat Cody and test those for EPO. Well, this is what you and I were talking about when we were at the store.

00:53:42.000 We were like, how far do we go back?

00:53:44.000 Dude, I'm telling you, Joe, you don't want to go down that road, man.

00:53:47.000 I said, test them all!

00:53:48.000 You're crazy.

00:53:49.000 Test them all.

00:53:49.000 Let's find out what's real.

00:53:51.000 Why?

00:53:51.000 Why do you want to do that?

00:53:52.000 Test them all.

00:53:54.000 You're crazy, dude.

00:53:55.000 You can't do it.

00:53:56.000 You're going to ruin the foundations of the UFC. This is an intellectual exercise.

00:53:59.000 I don't really want you to test them all.

00:54:02.000 But if I was going to argue, I'd say test them all.

00:54:06.000 Line it up.

00:54:07.000 Let's find out what's up.

00:54:08.000 We've always wondered.

00:54:09.000 Have we?

00:54:10.000 Not me.

00:54:11.000 I've never wondered.

00:54:13.000 You want to test Forrest Griffin and Stefan Bonner, UFC? Test them all.

00:54:17.000 The fight that catapulted the freaking UFC? But then again, test all the football players, test all the baseball players.

00:54:26.000 Everyone's feelings are going to be hurt.

00:54:26.000 Did you watch Screwball?

00:54:28.000 Did you watch Screwball?

00:54:29.000 No, I haven't.

00:54:30.000 Holy shit is it good.

00:54:31.000 The Billy Corbin documentary?

00:54:33.000 Do you know what they did?

00:54:34.000 Yeah.

00:54:34.000 They had little kids play A-Rod and the doctor.

00:54:37.000 It's crazy, right?

00:54:38.000 It's hilarious, dude.

00:54:39.000 I know the story.

00:54:40.000 The story's nuts because it's in the people who are actually there narrating it.

00:54:44.000 They're telling the story and they got these little kids playing A-Rod and playing the doctor.

00:54:49.000 It's brilliant.

00:54:49.000 It's fucking great, man.

00:54:50.000 It's a crazy story, though.

00:54:51.000 It's a crazy story!

00:54:53.000 I feel bad for TJ, man.

00:54:57.000 You know what, man?

00:54:58.000 When everybody makes an agreement to not cheat, and they're testing you all the time to try to make sure that you're not cheating, don't you think that the environment's different now than it was before you saw it was initiated?

00:55:12.000 And don't you think that's a good thing?

00:55:13.000 I'm putting words in your mouth.

00:55:14.000 Notice how I phrased that question?

00:55:16.000 Yeah, I know.

00:55:16.000 It's terrible.

00:55:17.000 Come on, Fox News or something.

00:55:18.000 I know.

00:55:19.000 Thanks.

00:55:20.000 No, you're right.

00:55:20.000 It is better overall for the purity of the sport.

00:55:23.000 I think it's better.

00:55:24.000 But I still assume guys are going to figure out a way to cheat.

00:55:27.000 Because PEDs in sports is no different than a referee or a judge or gloves.

00:55:35.000 They go hand in hand.

00:55:36.000 People have always done PEDs or enhancements in every aspect, whether it's football, basketball, music, surfing, sex.

00:55:45.000 It's just what humans do, especially when the odds are so high that this little thing can help you achieve.

00:55:51.000 Maybe it gets you a victory, but you know?

00:55:55.000 And then also with TJ Dillashaw's thing, granted, we know EPO is illegal, but this one's a little different.

00:56:04.000 If you tested positive for like steroids or whatever, like straight up steroids, because if you and I engage in a fight and we have eight weeks to train and you go to Mount Everest or where the fuck you want to get your red blood cells higher and then fight me back at sea level, but I just stay here and inject those red cells.

00:56:20.000 You know?

00:56:22.000 The difference is that if you operate at sea level and you're taking EPO, you will be able to work much harder and get more rounds in and you'll recover much better.

00:56:34.000 If you are up at altitude, the problem is living and training really at high altitude.

00:56:39.000 You can't put out as much output.

00:56:41.000 But the night of the fight, we're going to have the same.

00:56:43.000 No.

00:56:44.000 Why?

00:56:44.000 The EPO will have more.

00:56:45.000 Way more?

00:56:46.000 Yeah.

00:56:46.000 Not even close.

00:56:47.000 No, you're going to have a stroke from that stuff.

00:56:50.000 Not if you do it right.

00:56:51.000 Depends on how much you're taking, but that was one of the things Nowitzki was telling me about were young cyclists that were just having strokes.

00:56:58.000 Well, your boy, I think it was Lance Armstrong, maybe he was on your show, but he would wake up in the middle of the night and have to ride a bike because his blood was so thick.

00:57:04.000 That was my friend Salami.

00:57:06.000 Do I know Salami?

00:57:07.000 No.

00:57:08.000 No, I'll explain.

00:57:10.000 Okay.

00:57:10.000 But you know what I'm saying?

00:57:12.000 You can't chill for long.

00:57:13.000 He was a bike racer.

00:57:14.000 You'd have to wake up in the middle of the night and ride your bike.

00:57:17.000 I think Lance did discuss how guys would do that.

00:57:19.000 I think that's where I got it, yeah.

00:57:20.000 We've talked about it.

00:57:21.000 Maybe Lance did.

00:57:22.000 Did Lance talk about having to get up in the middle of the night?

00:57:24.000 Or did you and I talk about this?

00:57:25.000 Did I talk about getting up in the middle of the night riding a bike?

00:57:27.000 No.

00:57:27.000 I'm just kidding.

00:57:28.000 No.

00:57:28.000 I'm just kidding.

00:57:29.000 But anyway, obviously, look, with the Lance Armstrong thing, I feel like Everyone was doing it.

00:57:38.000 Everyone.

00:57:39.000 You think TJ's the only one?

00:57:43.000 No.

00:57:44.000 I think other people are taking EPO and they're hoping they don't get caught.

00:57:48.000 That's what I think.

00:57:49.000 I think it's still cheating.

00:57:51.000 Correct.

00:57:51.000 And I don't think everybody's doing that.

00:57:54.000 I think there's a lot of guys who are doing it honorably.

00:57:56.000 I agree.

00:57:57.000 Most guys are doing it honorably.

00:57:59.000 I think you could get it in your mind.

00:58:01.000 Look, I don't...

00:58:04.000 It just is what, to take from Max Holloway, it is what it is, right?

00:58:08.000 It is what it is.

00:58:09.000 It is what it is.

00:58:10.000 It's cheating, right?

00:58:11.000 TJ would admit that, I'm sure.

00:58:13.000 He did admit it.

00:58:13.000 Yeah, he did.

00:58:14.000 That's what it is.

00:58:15.000 But, I mean, I don't even know if I have a point.

00:58:19.000 I don't know if I do either.

00:58:24.000 I was going to say the guy's trying to provide for his family, but so is everybody else.

00:58:28.000 So is Cody Garbrandt.

00:58:29.000 So is Henry Cejudo.

00:58:31.000 So is everybody.

00:58:31.000 Everybody he finds.

00:58:32.000 But I would like to sit down with TJ. I've reached out to him since he's been suspended.

00:58:38.000 I want to sit down with him just like...

00:58:41.000 Why did you do it?

00:58:42.000 What led you to this?

00:58:44.000 Because his cardio has been great since he was a child with his wrestling background.

00:58:48.000 At what point along the way, was it six years ago, six fights ago, did you think you needed to do this in order to beat these guys?

00:58:55.000 Well, we could look at one thing that we know that he's been doing.

00:59:00.000 He has a rigorous strength and conditioning program.

00:59:04.000 That training lab strength and conditioning program that he's doing?

00:59:06.000 I have an issue with that.

00:59:08.000 I understand your issue.

00:59:10.000 But that shit is off the charts crazy difficult.

00:59:13.000 They're doing wild stuff and medicine ball work and plyometrics and all this stuff.

00:59:17.000 And TJ looks like a fucking beast when he's doing it.

00:59:19.000 Have you seen Brian Ortega's workout?

00:59:21.000 With Mike?

00:59:22.000 Yeah.

00:59:23.000 They do crazy shit too.

00:59:24.000 Yeah.

00:59:25.000 I mean, I'm not justifying it.

00:59:27.000 But what I'm saying is that...

00:59:30.000 In order to do that kind of work, like to put out that kind of pace, your body's going to have to have some time to recover in between workouts.

00:59:37.000 Well, if you take EPO, that time of recovery is diminished quite a bit, according to Nowitzki.

00:59:44.000 He's saying it allows guys to put in more work.

00:59:47.000 So it doesn't just give you more cardio.

00:59:50.000 It allows you to recover faster so you can train harder.

00:59:52.000 And you know...

00:59:54.000 As well as anybody.

00:59:55.000 That sometimes the difference between victory and defeat is just having a little more in your gas tank.

01:00:00.000 Just having a little longer camp.

01:00:02.000 Not being injured the last couple of weeks.

01:00:05.000 We lost some cardio.

01:00:06.000 You know those awful feelings.

01:00:08.000 Well, if you had the opposite of those awful feelings, instead of being compromised, being enhanced, it's going to help you mentally.

01:00:14.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:00:15.000 It's going to help your head.

01:00:17.000 You're going to come in there like a fucking champion.

01:00:19.000 What's that song he always comes into?

01:00:21.000 Oh, give it away, give it away?

01:00:23.000 No.

01:00:23.000 Is that what he comes to?

01:00:24.000 Oh, no.

01:00:24.000 He comes to Red Hot Chili Peppers.

01:00:26.000 Oh, does he really?

01:00:29.000 I always forget, guys.

01:00:31.000 The only guy whose walkout music I always remember.

01:00:34.000 Two.

01:00:35.000 Two.

01:00:35.000 One was, of course, Matt Hughes.

01:00:38.000 Because he'd come out to Country Boy Can't Survive.

01:00:40.000 Country Boy, yeah.

01:00:42.000 That fucking song.

01:00:43.000 Who's the other?

01:00:43.000 Randy Couture when he came out to Stranglehold.

01:00:46.000 Oh, interesting.

01:00:46.000 Not Anderson Silva?

01:00:47.000 DMX? Oh, that's right.

01:00:49.000 That shit was fire.

01:00:50.000 Yeah.

01:00:52.000 That was scary.

01:00:54.000 Mickey Gall's got the best one, though.

01:00:56.000 You think?

01:00:57.000 Oh, Mickey, you're so fine.

01:00:58.000 I don't like that one.

01:00:59.000 No, I don't like that one.

01:01:01.000 Come on, man.

01:01:01.000 Wonder Boy's got a good one.

01:01:02.000 What's a Tenacious D song?

01:01:03.000 It's called Wonder Boy.

01:01:04.000 Oh, is it really?

01:01:05.000 Oh, that's pretty dope.

01:01:05.000 Words are like, Wonder Boy, what is the secret of your powers?

01:01:08.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:01:10.000 Who came out to the Game of Thrones song, though?

01:01:13.000 Someone came out to Game of Thrones.

01:01:14.000 That's pretty gangster.

01:01:16.000 It's a little boring, but you know, shit's about to go down.

01:01:19.000 But still, it's something special.

01:01:21.000 Did you see D'Elia, that fucking dork, with his shirt off, doing an air violin to Game of Thrones?

01:01:26.000 Fully committed.

01:01:28.000 Fully committed.

01:01:28.000 I was like, what are you doing?

01:01:30.000 He's so silly.

01:01:30.000 He's so fucking silly.

01:01:32.000 He's so silly, man.

01:01:33.000 Do you think, I was thinking about TJ, do you think two years is good enough?

01:01:37.000 It's a good question.

01:01:38.000 I think it is.

01:01:39.000 Two years without income?

01:01:41.000 But here's the question.

01:01:42.000 What are they going to do?

01:01:43.000 What if they decide?

01:01:44.000 What if Cody demands that they test his sample for EPO? That's a good question.

01:01:49.000 So let's say they can test that.

01:01:51.000 This might have already happened and we don't know.

01:01:54.000 You'll know before me.

01:01:55.000 So let's say that they go back and test the two fights with Cody that he beat him.

01:01:59.000 So let's say both test spots for EPO. I don't think they will, but let's say they did.

01:02:04.000 That's three, brother.

01:02:05.000 That's the three strike rule.

01:02:07.000 You're out for life.

01:02:10.000 Man.

01:02:11.000 Can they go back that far and do it?

01:02:14.000 I mean, this would be...

01:02:17.000 I'm stressed.

01:02:17.000 This would be the best argument for getting rid of...

01:02:20.000 Nowitzki says Dillashaw was tested for EPO in both fights against Cody Garber.

01:02:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:02:24.000 Shout out to Nowitzki.

01:02:25.000 Results came back negative.

01:02:27.000 Okay.

01:02:28.000 So...

01:02:30.000 So he's good.

01:02:31.000 Yeah, so he's good for that.

01:02:32.000 But they could go back to, you know...

01:02:34.000 But go ahead and go, because if he didn't do it during Cody Garbrandt fights, come on, dude.

01:02:39.000 Well, how long has he been training at the training lab?

01:02:42.000 Was the first Cody Garbrandt fight when he was out of Denver?

01:02:45.000 He was switching time and then moved here permanently because of the training lab.

01:02:50.000 But also...

01:02:51.000 Which was the first fight?

01:02:53.000 Was it the Cody Garbrandt fight?

01:02:54.000 I'm pretty sure.

01:02:55.000 The first Cody Garbrandt.

01:02:56.000 The first one.

01:02:57.000 But also, at 125, it makes sense to do EPO. Because cutting that weight, 125, Henry's going to have more...

01:03:04.000 Yeah.

01:03:05.000 No energy when he's trying to train.

01:03:06.000 Yeah.

01:03:07.000 Yeah.

01:03:07.000 Because you're wrecked.

01:03:08.000 So that would make more sense.

01:03:09.000 That does make sense.

01:03:09.000 They tested hot for it one time.

01:03:11.000 Yeah.

01:03:11.000 Maybe that was the only way he could make the 25. Fuck.

01:03:14.000 That's awful.

01:03:15.000 Awful.

01:03:16.000 Oof.

01:03:17.000 Yeah.

01:03:17.000 Still.

01:03:18.000 Just before this first fight with him.

01:03:20.000 What's that?

01:03:20.000 Before UFC 217, the Madison Square Garden fight.

01:03:23.000 Okay, so that's it.

01:03:24.000 Yeah, so that's when they started training together.

01:03:26.000 That makes sense when he would do it, right?

01:03:27.000 Yep, makes sense, because he's trying to get down to an ungodly weight.

01:03:30.000 Dude, he looked so bad when he was walking around that day.

01:03:34.000 Shredded city.

01:03:35.000 The day...

01:03:35.000 But no, no, no, it was more than...

01:03:36.000 It was Skeletor style.

01:03:37.000 That's why I'm talking shredded like an Ethiopian kid.

01:03:40.000 If it was more like a...

01:03:42.000 Like someone who was starving.

01:03:43.000 Yes.

01:03:44.000 It was like his face was so sucked in.

01:03:47.000 I was worried about that.

01:03:49.000 I was like, this just doesn't look good.

01:03:50.000 He looks so sick.

01:03:52.000 He looks like an ultra marathon runner.

01:03:54.000 Like one of those crazy dudes who's just doing one every weekend.

01:03:59.000 God, I need to get like that.

01:04:00.000 What is the one on the bottom?

01:04:02.000 135. 135?

01:04:03.000 Wow, he looks so much bigger.

01:04:04.000 That's crazy, the difference in the amount of muscle he carries on.

01:04:07.000 Like, his body ate muscle.

01:04:09.000 What a nightmare.

01:04:10.000 What a bad decision to go to 125. Well, and also, to do it where he wasn't draining himself that much, because he got down to like 135 naturally, and then bought the last 10. That training lab, and they have to do a safe face.

01:04:23.000 I get it.

01:04:25.000 But TJ came on my show, and he's talked about it in other interviews, saying how they did blood work every day and tested everything.

01:04:31.000 You're telling me that when you insert fucking EPO, no one had any idea.

01:04:36.000 You're doing it yourself.

01:04:37.000 And this is the other alarming thing.

01:04:38.000 EPO is not a gateway drug.

01:04:40.000 It's not like marijuana, the drug.

01:04:42.000 It's not gateway PDs.

01:04:43.000 That's some black belt level shit.

01:04:45.000 Is it?

01:04:46.000 Yeah, talk to your boy Lance about it.

01:04:48.000 You just don't start with EPO. Hmm.

01:04:50.000 That's some high-level shit, man.

01:04:52.000 Because think about it.

01:04:53.000 Your blood thickens.

01:04:53.000 You've got to run tests.

01:04:55.000 Right.

01:04:55.000 You want to start with some Anivar.

01:04:57.000 Yeah.

01:04:57.000 A little quick windstraw.

01:04:59.000 What's up, baby?

01:04:59.000 See what's up.

01:04:59.000 Look at the traps coming in, son.

01:05:01.000 Damn, this shit's dope.

01:05:02.000 I'm only four weeks in.

01:05:03.000 Yeah.

01:05:05.000 EPO's some serious shit, man.

01:05:07.000 That is serious.

01:05:07.000 That's a very good point.

01:05:08.000 Now, maybe someone came to him and was like, dude, better cardio at 125. EPO's the way to go.

01:05:13.000 And I know how to do this.

01:05:14.000 Let's go down this road.

01:05:15.000 Who do you think is going to be the first dude to come along with gene editing?

01:05:20.000 Might be Yo Romero.

01:05:23.000 Just a Cuban experiment.

01:05:25.000 Just some fucking crazy science project.

01:05:27.000 God.

01:05:28.000 He never gets old.

01:05:29.000 He's a ninja turtle and he took a shot off.

01:05:31.000 He looks exactly the same.

01:05:32.000 What is happening here?

01:05:34.000 Yeah.

01:05:34.000 He doesn't age like a normal person.

01:05:36.000 Probably some Chinese dude.

01:05:38.000 Yeah, one day they're going to deal with that.

01:05:40.000 One day there's going to be a person who shows up.

01:05:43.000 Who is ridiculously jacked, that never gets tired, and is fast as fuck.

01:05:49.000 Everyone's fucked.

01:05:50.000 And everyone's fucked.

01:05:51.000 If they've figured out a way, I mean, how much can they manipulate cardio when you have big muscles?

01:05:57.000 That's what we're going to find out.

01:05:58.000 We're going to find out if there's a point where the physical structure won't hold any more muscle, and you can't get any more oxygen through it.

01:06:06.000 You only get to a diminishing point of returns.

01:06:09.000 What are you going to do, then?

01:06:12.000 China would be the first one.

01:06:13.000 China for sure.

01:06:14.000 For sure.

01:06:15.000 Or Russia.

01:06:16.000 Jack Chinese dude.

01:06:17.000 Russia doesn't need it.

01:06:18.000 They're like, we're big in here.

01:06:19.000 They think they might have already done something like that with Corellin.

01:06:23.000 Did you ever see Corellin and his parents?

01:06:25.000 No.

01:06:25.000 The crazy conspiracy theory was always that Corellin, who was one of the most feared wrestlers, if not the most feared wrestler ever, who just would take 300 pound men and hoist him through the air, and he moved like a panther, and he's a big giant guy.

01:06:39.000 Panther.

01:06:39.000 His parents were small.

01:06:40.000 They're little tiny folk.

01:06:41.000 Weird.

01:06:42.000 Oh, dude.

01:06:43.000 They called him the experiment.

01:06:44.000 There's a picture of him.

01:06:44.000 I think it was Sports Illustrated.

01:06:46.000 One of those sports magazines where he's got his hand on his mom and his dad.

01:06:49.000 They're like, his children, bro.

01:06:50.000 He's a giant.

01:06:51.000 He might just be a freak, though.

01:06:53.000 Might be a freak.

01:06:54.000 I don't think Shaq's parents are big.

01:06:57.000 Dude.

01:06:58.000 Holy.

01:06:58.000 Oh.

01:06:59.000 That's him with Fedor.

01:07:00.000 Oh, my God.

01:07:01.000 Dude, I am telling you.

01:07:02.000 He's a gigantic.

01:07:04.000 Go to that black and white photo of him looking ferocious.

01:07:07.000 Look at that picture of him right there with the shirt.

01:07:09.000 Right there.

01:07:10.000 Click on that one.

01:07:11.000 Click on that one.

01:07:12.000 Holy fuck.

01:07:13.000 Listen to me.

01:07:14.000 Oh, he has giantism.

01:07:15.000 Look at his chin, dude.

01:07:17.000 He's got more than that, dude.

01:07:18.000 He's got more than that.

01:07:20.000 He's got more than that.

01:07:21.000 How big is he?

01:07:22.000 He's fucking huge, man.

01:07:23.000 Look at that picture with him.

01:07:25.000 That's him right there.

01:07:25.000 Look at that.

01:07:26.000 Bro, he would pick dudes up and they would go for a motherfucking ride.

01:07:32.000 Guys would try to flatten out and lay their whole body on the ground in hopes that he couldn't pick them up.

01:07:38.000 He would clinch his hands underneath their belly, hoist them up in the air like a fucking pillowcase, and smash them on the ground.

01:07:45.000 He's the guy our American beat.

01:07:46.000 Yes.

01:07:47.000 The fat guy who lost his toes in the winter.

01:07:50.000 Yeah.

01:07:51.000 Rulon Gardner.

01:07:51.000 Yes!

01:07:52.000 Yes.

01:07:52.000 Did you have him on here?

01:07:54.000 No, I never had, but I would.

01:07:55.000 But Rulon Gardner beat him in the twilight of his career.

01:07:58.000 Does not take anything away from Rulon.

01:07:59.000 But he only beat him by a point because he made Carell and separate his hands.

01:08:04.000 It was a sumo match, basically.

01:08:05.000 It was a controversial new rule.

01:08:06.000 It was like a controversial new changing in point system.

01:08:10.000 Look at Rulon.

01:08:10.000 I believe I'm calling that correctly.

01:08:12.000 Look at Rulon.

01:08:12.000 Make sure I'm calling that correctly.

01:08:14.000 Like how Rulon Gardner...

01:08:15.000 Yeah, that Russian.

01:08:16.000 That's fucking right.

01:08:17.000 Dude, he was so scary.

01:08:19.000 Dude, he's just...

01:08:19.000 Jack!

01:08:20.000 He was so scary.

01:08:22.000 And he had one, I think he had a fixed fight in Japan.

01:08:26.000 It looked like a work.

01:08:28.000 You know, like they do those.

01:08:29.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:29.000 They used to do those in Japan.

01:08:30.000 They still do.

01:08:31.000 Yeah.

01:08:31.000 It looked like he had- Tension and fucking Floyd was fixed.

01:08:34.000 What?

01:08:35.000 You think he was real?

01:08:36.000 100%.

01:08:37.000 Oh, Joe.

01:08:37.000 You want to watch it again?

01:08:38.000 We can.

01:08:39.000 Why do you think it was fixed?

01:08:41.000 Come on.

01:08:42.000 Do you watch it?

01:08:42.000 Yeah.

01:08:43.000 I just think it's some bullshit.

01:08:44.000 No, it was a guy who's a legitimate 155 pound man who is fighting...

01:08:49.000 Do you see Intention crying and rolling around on the ground?

01:08:52.000 A dude who fights at 126. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

01:08:54.000 Who's never had a professional boxing match.

01:08:56.000 How crazy is that?

01:08:56.000 Who's fighting against the greatest boxer of all time.

01:09:00.000 Listen to what you're saying.

01:09:00.000 He's so small.

01:09:02.000 Intention's fixed.

01:09:03.000 Intention's their fucking poster boy.

01:09:05.000 Yeah.

01:09:05.000 And they're like, yeah, here's Floyd Mayweather, dude.

01:09:07.000 I don't think they thought he was going to knock him out.

01:09:09.000 Really?

01:09:09.000 Tension's a beast, man.

01:09:10.000 I mean, you've seen him fight.

01:09:12.000 He's a beast, but when it comes to, I have, but when it comes to boxing.

01:09:14.000 I understand that.

01:09:15.000 But they were really thinking he could hit him.

01:09:18.000 This was the thought, was that Tension is really a striking genius.

01:09:21.000 Have you never seen him?

01:09:22.000 So is Conor McGregor.

01:09:23.000 Well, no, no, no, but it's different.

01:09:25.000 Tension is faster, it's smaller.

01:09:28.000 I mean, he moves like a lightning bolt.

01:09:29.000 And in Japan, the fact that this kid's only like 18 or 19 years old and been fucking people up, including knocking out world Muay Thai champions, so they threw him to the wolves real early on.

01:09:42.000 Okay, let's watch this.

01:09:43.000 And tell me why you think this is fake.

01:09:45.000 I see a dude who's so much smaller than Floyd.

01:09:48.000 Look how little he is.

01:09:49.000 Way smaller.

01:09:50.000 He's way smaller.

01:09:53.000 Floyd is not even remotely nervous.

01:09:56.000 He's not remotely nervous.

01:09:57.000 This kid is, I mean, a fantastic kid.

01:10:00.000 Remember Floyd laughing?

01:10:01.000 Yes, of course.

01:10:02.000 Remember, he didn't even do this to Conor.

01:10:03.000 Of course, Conor can knock him out.

01:10:06.000 This guy can't knock him out.

01:10:07.000 He's supposed to be the next big thing.

01:10:09.000 Dude, he's a great kickboxer, but he's not kickboxing.

01:10:12.000 He's boxing.

01:10:13.000 You're not going to outbox Floyd Mayweather when you've never had a professional boxing match.

01:10:17.000 At least I don't think he has.

01:10:18.000 He's had a lot of kickboxing, though.

01:10:20.000 And in kickboxing, he's fucking amazing.

01:10:23.000 But he's also amazing against guys that are 126 pounds.

01:10:26.000 That's so 18. Dude, look how small he is compared to Floyd.

01:10:29.000 Floyd's tiny.

01:10:30.000 And look how easily Floyd blocks those punches.

01:10:32.000 And he's not feeling any danger.

01:10:34.000 So he just tries to put it on this kid.

01:10:35.000 He's walking him down.

01:10:37.000 He's walking him down.

01:10:38.000 Looking for an opening.

01:10:39.000 This is the first round.

01:10:40.000 Yes!

01:10:41.000 Why would he wait?

01:10:42.000 Boom!

01:10:42.000 He cracks him.

01:10:43.000 Why would you wait?

01:10:44.000 Cracks him?

01:10:45.000 He just cracked him.

01:10:46.000 That was a crack?

01:10:47.000 You don't think...

01:10:47.000 Back it up.

01:10:48.000 Back that shit up, Jamie.

01:10:49.000 Back it up.

01:10:50.000 Let's watch it again.

01:10:51.000 Dude, he cracked him.

01:10:52.000 Watch this.

01:10:54.000 Right there.

01:10:54.000 Here it goes.

01:10:55.000 Let it roll from here.

01:10:56.000 He gets him in his corner, He hit him with the left hook to the temple.

01:10:59.000 You don't see that left hook to the temple?

01:11:01.000 Watch one at a time.

01:11:02.000 Pink.

01:11:02.000 Right there.

01:11:03.000 Thank you.

01:11:04.000 He fucking cracked a dude who's a legit 30 pounds lighter than him on the temple and dropped him.

01:11:09.000 How dare you?

01:11:10.000 You just watched it.

01:11:11.000 Cracked?

01:11:11.000 You just watched it.

01:11:12.000 Dude, that is a full-on left hook.

01:11:15.000 And he goes flying back?

01:11:17.000 That is a full-on left hook.

01:11:18.000 First of all, there was a stumble in there as well.

01:11:20.000 But he hit him.

01:11:21.000 See the stumble after he got rocked?

01:11:22.000 Dude, that's a tough one, Joe.

01:11:24.000 It's not tough at all.

01:11:25.000 I don't see that there.

01:11:25.000 It's not tough at all.

01:11:26.000 The kid gets up.

01:11:27.000 He got wobbled.

01:11:29.000 They give him a standing eight count.

01:11:31.000 He looks nervous as fuck.

01:11:33.000 He looks over.

01:11:34.000 He got stung, man.

01:11:36.000 You're fucking crazy.

01:11:37.000 He got stung.

01:11:38.000 And now Floyd moves in, and the kid's even trying to fire back.

01:11:41.000 He's just not good enough, man.

01:11:43.000 Floyd's standing right in front of him with his fucking hands up.

01:11:46.000 The kid's got no chance.

01:11:47.000 He's much smaller.

01:11:49.000 No experience against a guy as good as Floyd.

01:11:51.000 And Floyd's walking him down with his hands.

01:11:52.000 This is real, man.

01:11:54.000 This is real.

01:11:54.000 That kid's trying to hurt him.

01:11:55.000 He just can't do it.

01:11:57.000 He's fighting the best ever.

01:11:58.000 And then, boom!

01:11:59.000 Come on, son.

01:12:00.000 That was legit.

01:12:00.000 That was real as fuck.

01:12:01.000 That overcut was legit.

01:12:02.000 No, all of it's real.

01:12:02.000 That first one didn't look legit.

01:12:04.000 You should know.

01:12:05.000 We've all seen guys get hit with shit that didn't look like much, and they go down.

01:12:08.000 We've all seen it.

01:12:09.000 We've all seen guys get touched on the chin, and they fall down.

01:12:13.000 Look at Floyd.

01:12:15.000 Look at this.

01:12:16.000 Do you remember Travis Luter versus Marvin Eastman?

01:12:19.000 Yes.

01:12:19.000 You remember that?

01:12:20.000 A lot of people said that was fixed.

01:12:21.000 They're like, that's fake.

01:12:22.000 No one gets hit with a punch like that.

01:12:24.000 No, no, no.

01:12:24.000 Sometimes you come into a fight compromised.

01:12:26.000 Look, this is 100% legit.

01:12:30.000 One, two, right on the fucking head and he falls down.

01:12:32.000 Dude, this is 100% a legit fight.

01:12:35.000 This kid got fucked up by the best boxer of all time.

01:12:38.000 He's 126 pounds.

01:12:40.000 He's tiny.

01:12:40.000 None of this made any sense in the first place.

01:12:42.000 Zero sense.

01:12:43.000 But you gotta admit that's a real fight.

01:12:44.000 That looked pretty legit.

01:12:45.000 I'll give you that.

01:12:45.000 It's real.

01:12:46.000 That's a real goddamn fight.

01:12:47.000 That first one was questionable.

01:12:49.000 The next two were great, though.

01:12:49.000 No, it wasn't questionable at all.

01:12:50.000 Well, I'm just saying, for the argument, for my first one, it looked questionable.

01:12:53.000 To me, if you watch the whole thing play out in slow motion, what happens is you see a left hook, and then you see a stumble, and Floyd moves in, and their legs tangle up a little bit, and then Floyd hits him with a right hand when he's on his way down.

01:13:08.000 Floyd fucked that dude up.

01:13:09.000 That's all that happened.

01:13:10.000 Did you see Manny Pacquiao signed with him now?

01:13:12.000 Is he having a mouthpiece in there?

01:13:14.000 Or is that one of those real tiny...

01:13:16.000 He probably took it out.

01:13:16.000 I mean, the whole fight that I was watching that video, it didn't look like he had one in.

01:13:19.000 Dude, he probably didn't even want to wear a mouthpiece.

01:13:21.000 Fuck your mouthpiece.

01:13:23.000 Fight in Japan.

01:13:24.000 Well, think about it.

01:13:25.000 This was a...

01:13:26.000 This wasn't a sanctioned fight.

01:13:28.000 Dude.

01:13:29.000 No mouthpiece.

01:13:30.000 Oh, yeah.

01:13:31.000 He don't need a mouthpiece, son.

01:13:32.000 Dude, they let Dos Caros...

01:13:34.000 Remember that dude?

01:13:35.000 That suspect.

01:13:35.000 That dude who wore the...

01:13:37.000 What was the guy's name that wore the wrestling mask when he fought Crow Cop?

01:13:43.000 That's one of the best pro-cop KOs of all time.

01:13:46.000 Like a scene from a movie.

01:13:49.000 Dos Caros?

01:13:50.000 Is that who it was?

01:13:52.000 I'm trying to remember his name.

01:13:53.000 But anyway, Crow Cop hits this dude with the perfect left high kick.

01:13:57.000 Shin to the dome.

01:13:58.000 The guy goes down like he got shot and blood starts leaking under.

01:14:02.000 What the fuck was he thinking?

01:14:03.000 Yep, Dos Carlos.

01:14:04.000 That's it.

01:14:05.000 But when he lands this kick, dude, the end is so crazy.

01:14:09.000 It's like a scene in a movie.

01:14:11.000 Like a Quentin Tarantino movie.

01:14:12.000 Some dude who is a pro wrestler who decides to fight one of the best kickboxers of all time to ever.

01:14:19.000 Ever entering to MMA. Boom!

01:14:21.000 Now watch this.

01:14:22.000 Watch when they focus in on Homeboy.

01:14:24.000 When he's down, the blood.

01:14:26.000 Let me see this.

01:14:27.000 It doesn't end.

01:14:28.000 Oh, it ended.

01:14:31.000 During Pride, when it ended, the dude is sitting there.

01:14:33.000 You see blood trickling out from underneath the mask.

01:14:36.000 He shinned him.

01:14:37.000 Dude, how about Crow Cup had to retire?

01:14:39.000 I think it was something in his neck or his heart.

01:14:43.000 He had to retire, though.

01:14:45.000 What was it?

01:14:45.000 He had a health scare.

01:14:47.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:14:47.000 He had like a small heart attack, I think.

01:14:49.000 Is that right, Jamie?

01:14:50.000 Some health concern.

01:14:51.000 Okay, a stroke.

01:14:52.000 Stroke.

01:14:53.000 Yeah.

01:14:53.000 He had to retire.

01:14:54.000 I broke up on a stroke?

01:14:55.000 The thing with Whitaker, I was trying to bring it up, but you guys were going too fast.

01:14:59.000 He had an abscess on his, not a torn rectum, but it's in the same area.

01:15:04.000 And then because he was taking antibiotics for that, he got chicken pox.

01:15:07.000 God damn.

01:15:08.000 Which once he had that, his whole team was like, you're not fighting.

01:15:11.000 He still kind of wanted to.

01:15:13.000 Jesus Christ.

01:15:14.000 He's such a monster.

01:15:14.000 So he had a cyst in his rectum?

01:15:16.000 He had the hernia and then an abscess.

01:15:19.000 An abscess.

01:15:20.000 It's not in your rectum.

01:15:20.000 It's like...

01:15:21.000 It's a muscle tear.

01:15:23.000 It's like a pus pocket thing.

01:15:25.000 But probably from some sort of an injury, right?

01:15:28.000 You can get it from a lot of different things.

01:15:29.000 Have you ever had a hemorrhoid?

01:15:31.000 Yeah.

01:15:32.000 They're awful.

01:15:33.000 Awful.

01:15:34.000 Why does Preparation H work so well?

01:15:35.000 It doesn't work out.

01:15:36.000 If you have a serious one, don't give a fuck.

01:15:38.000 Oh, man.

01:15:39.000 I've had a grape one.

01:15:40.000 No, I didn't let it go.

01:15:42.000 I did deadlifts or something and went, let's not do that.

01:15:45.000 And flared up the size of a small grape.

01:15:48.000 Yeah, they get gross.

01:15:49.000 Oh, my God.

01:15:50.000 Ari bleeds every time he shits.

01:15:52.000 Still?

01:15:52.000 Yep.

01:15:53.000 That can't be healthy.

01:15:54.000 Gotta be bad.

01:15:55.000 Right?

01:15:56.000 I mean...

01:15:56.000 Have you had one, Jamie?

01:15:58.000 Yeah, once, but I was just picturing Ari's.

01:16:00.000 He, like, shows pictures of just, like...

01:16:02.000 Yeah, just lots of them.

01:16:05.000 He sends you those.

01:16:06.000 I love Ari's tweet about Game of Thrones.

01:16:09.000 Spoiler.

01:16:09.000 Fuck you.

01:16:11.000 I want to talk about it.

01:16:13.000 Yeah, stay offline.

01:16:14.000 Yeah, that's what I say.

01:16:14.000 If you want to know what happens, stay offline.

01:16:16.000 Love Game of Thrones.

01:16:17.000 Yeah, it was pretty dope last night.

01:16:19.000 I mean, we can't give away any spoilers, but how good are those goddamn special effects?

01:16:24.000 They're good.

01:16:25.000 Fucking dragons, man.

01:16:26.000 There was a lot to get this episode.

01:16:28.000 They had to tie everything together, so it's slow.

01:16:32.000 So if you're new to it, yeah, cut the shit.

01:16:34.000 Get the White Walkers fighting now.

01:16:37.000 They also need, let's be honest, you can't do this all in eight more episodes.

01:16:40.000 You're lying to us.

01:16:41.000 They're going to, though.

01:16:42.000 I thought it was only five.

01:16:43.000 I thought it was only six total.

01:16:44.000 I could be way wrong, but they're longer, too.

01:16:47.000 The last two are 80 minutes long.

01:16:48.000 I think this first one's the shortest one, right?

01:16:50.000 I thought it was eight.

01:16:53.000 Isn't it crazy that the show is the most popular show in the world and they're going to stop it?

01:16:59.000 I wonder what...

01:17:00.000 They're just like...

01:17:00.000 It's like the whole thing you always want.

01:17:03.000 If you're in show business, they have the most popular show in the world.

01:17:07.000 But it's good to go out, right?

01:17:09.000 It is good to go out.

01:17:10.000 But I mean, you know how hard it is to get the most popular fiction show and one of the greatest fiction shows, if not the greatest ever?

01:17:19.000 And you're there in the peak of it.

01:17:21.000 How many people are watching it?

01:17:22.000 Like, how many watched last night, do you think?

01:17:24.000 17.7.

01:17:24.000 Yeah, there's only six episodes.

01:17:26.000 Do you know how crazy that is?

01:17:27.000 17.7 million people watch something on HBO. That's crazy.

01:17:31.000 You know what that would be like if it was Fox?

01:17:33.000 If it was CBS? I was just thinking like Roseanne was like 40 million.

01:17:37.000 It would be off the charts.

01:17:39.000 Because everybody has regular channels, but everybody doesn't have HBO, especially today with Netflix and all these different things.

01:17:46.000 Dude, how many people would watch it if it was on YouTube?

01:17:49.000 Oh my god.

01:17:50.000 But would you watch it on your TV on YouTube?

01:17:53.000 Yeah, I watch it all the time on my TV on YouTube.

01:17:55.000 Do you have an app you use?

01:17:56.000 Yeah.

01:17:57.000 Do you use it for Apple TV? Well, no, I have Dish.

01:18:01.000 I can just go to channel 372 and it's YouTube.

01:18:04.000 And I click and watch all my shows.

01:18:06.000 372 on DirecTV as YouTube?

01:18:08.000 Dish.

01:18:09.000 On Dish.

01:18:10.000 There might be 371's Netflix.

01:18:11.000 It's amazing that there's only one, right?

01:18:14.000 Like, there's Vimeo, but, like, YouTube, in terms of, like, how much content is online.

01:18:19.000 They have a big competitor that not a lot of people talk about.

01:18:21.000 What's that?

01:18:22.000 Pornhub.

01:18:23.000 For real, though.

01:18:24.000 No, they do.

01:18:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:18:25.000 There's a lot of people that have had to move, and they put their content on there, whether or not they're doing, like, there's tits out or whatever, too, but a lot just uncensored, and, like, there are people actually making money on there also.

01:18:34.000 With ads?

01:18:35.000 Yeah.

01:18:35.000 But probably nowhere...

01:18:36.000 I don't know.

01:18:37.000 I don't know how much they're actually making.

01:18:39.000 There's a ton.

01:18:40.000 There's a lot of guys on there.

01:18:42.000 They're on both websites, though.

01:18:45.000 When is VR porn going to really start taking off?

01:18:49.000 When those headsets don't become so cumbersome to wear.

01:18:52.000 Yeah.

01:18:52.000 You can't jerk off with a backpack.

01:18:54.000 Oh, my God.

01:18:55.000 Attached to a wall with a cord.

01:18:58.000 You just want to be able to relax, you know?

01:19:02.000 You won't be able to relax.

01:19:03.000 That brain tracking thing, though, would be an interesting thought.

01:19:05.000 While you're beating off?

01:19:06.000 You want to find out what's happening?

01:19:10.000 Meanwhile, Jamie's just thinking about animal attacks.

01:19:14.000 No, it's Jamie.

01:19:16.000 Do we know how many users does YouTube have compared to everyone?

01:19:21.000 It's not even close, right?

01:19:23.000 You don't even have to have an account to go watch a video.

01:19:25.000 No, you don't have to log in or nothing.

01:19:28.000 It's really a crazy business model, right?

01:19:30.000 They figured out some wild thing.

01:19:32.000 Let people just stream shit.

01:19:34.000 And the thing about it is that there's no one else like it.

01:19:38.000 Like, where the fuck are the next ones?

01:19:40.000 There's nothing even close.

01:19:41.000 I'll say this, too.

01:19:42.000 Crazy, right?

01:19:42.000 Like, I've never...

01:19:44.000 Just go back to the fights.

01:19:46.000 I swear on my life, I've never done a legal stream ever because I was thinking I was taking away from the fighters.

01:19:52.000 Didn't want to fuck them over.

01:19:53.000 And when I couldn't figure it out...

01:19:55.000 And I thought I might have to do that.

01:19:57.000 I got probably 2,000 DMs of links and I'm just thinking, this is how people watch the fights now.

01:20:04.000 It's a real problem.

01:20:06.000 I was in a coffee shop before I came here and the guys were fight fans and listened to my shows and they go, man, what did you think of the fights?

01:20:14.000 I went, yeah, yeah, good.

01:20:15.000 How did you guys watch it?

01:20:16.000 And it's four young guys and they go, come on, man.

01:20:18.000 We're not paying $80.

01:20:23.000 Tons of people are doing that.

01:20:24.000 But I think it's actually good for the fighters.

01:20:27.000 I think it's good.

01:20:28.000 It's good for their popularity, for sure.

01:20:29.000 Correct.

01:20:29.000 And that's all they care about because the UFC's going to pay them a finite number no matter what.

01:20:33.000 Yeah.

01:20:33.000 And it's probably also good for the sport that way, too, because more people see it, more people see how awesome it is.

01:20:38.000 The more people that saw that last fight, the more people are going to recognize how...

01:20:46.000 Because think about ESPN Plus and when you have to buy the pay-per-view, you're limiting how many people can see that by buying these paywalls.

01:20:53.000 So with these illegal streams, at least for the fighter's sake, everyone can see these great matchups.

01:20:58.000 Yeah, I know what you're saying.

01:21:00.000 You know?

01:21:01.000 And I'm always torn.

01:21:02.000 Because I don't want the UFC to shut down.

01:21:04.000 I love the UFC. Love the fucking UFC. I don't want it to do bad.

01:21:09.000 I hope these numbers do great.

01:21:10.000 But when I see what I have to go through as a diehard fan...

01:21:13.000 Like, my dad was like, oh, I'm out.

01:21:15.000 Nope, I'm not doing it.

01:21:15.000 I'm like, come on, man.

01:21:16.000 He's like, no, too much.

01:21:18.000 So I'm wondering how many people did that.

01:21:20.000 I'm sure quite a few.

01:21:21.000 But that's...

01:21:23.000 You know, it is what it is.

01:21:24.000 There's nothing...

01:21:25.000 To site Max Hallway again.

01:21:27.000 There's nothing you can do.

01:21:28.000 Those streams are legit.

01:21:29.000 They're going to fix it, but the day's over.

01:21:31.000 Yeah, the streams are going to exist.

01:21:32.000 There's nothing they can do, really.

01:21:33.000 They've got to make it easy for people to just get it.

01:21:35.000 Make it easier.

01:21:37.000 And once they make it easier, once everybody's set up, I think the numbers will go up.

01:21:40.000 I think most people don't want to go through the hassle of going through a stream and putting it on their television.

01:21:44.000 Most people just want to be able to tune in.

01:21:46.000 Correct.

01:21:46.000 And if you can get that ESPN Plus on everything, that's the other problem, right?

01:21:51.000 If you have, like, DirecTV, and that's the only way your TV's set up.

01:21:54.000 Your TV's not set up for the internet.

01:21:56.000 Correct.

01:21:57.000 So then what do you do?

01:21:58.000 You know, what if your internet's not strong enough to stream it?

01:22:00.000 Even with all that, but then, yeah, if you're not strong enough to stream it, you're fucked.

01:22:04.000 That's a problem for people.

01:22:05.000 That's for everything.

01:22:06.000 Yeah.

01:22:06.000 But that's for a fight?

01:22:08.000 But now, if you're 18 to 36, $80, and let's say you're struggling to get by, $80 is a lot of money.

01:22:14.000 It's $80 for the whole year, though.

01:22:15.000 The whole year of ESPN Plus and the fight.

01:22:20.000 Hold up.

01:22:21.000 Yeah.

01:22:21.000 It's not $80 for all the pay-per-views.

01:22:23.000 No.

01:22:23.000 No, sir.

01:22:24.000 No, for ESPN Plus, a membership for a year.

01:22:27.000 Correct.

01:22:28.000 But if you want to see the pay-per-views, you've got to pay $80.

01:22:32.000 Yeah, but how much would a year cost of ESPN Plus?

01:22:36.000 $60.

01:22:37.000 $60?

01:22:37.000 $5 a month.

01:22:38.000 So, for $79, you get the fight and a year of ESPN Plus.

01:22:43.000 Not pay-per-views.

01:22:44.000 Not pay-per-views.

01:22:45.000 And there's 10 pay-per-views.

01:22:46.000 You just get all the fights, all the fight nights, every fight that has happened.

01:22:50.000 I wonder if you get to ESPN fights...

01:22:53.000 As well as the ESPN Plus fights.

01:22:55.000 Yes.

01:22:56.000 Do you?

01:22:56.000 Yeah, you do.

01:22:57.000 But the pay-per-views...

01:22:58.000 Of course they would do that.

01:22:59.000 Why wouldn't they do that?

01:23:00.000 So if there's 10 pay-per-views and they're $80, that'd be another...

01:23:04.000 The 80 bucks was just for the one deal.

01:23:06.000 Just for the one.

01:23:07.000 But they can do it again.

01:23:08.000 They might have other deals.

01:23:09.000 You might get to buy two for one in the future.

01:23:11.000 There's a lot of content on there now, too, because they put the pay-per-views up there.

01:23:15.000 They put a bunch of pay-per-views up there, like the older fights.

01:23:18.000 Like Fight Passy.

01:23:20.000 Fight Pass style.

01:23:20.000 On ESPN Plus?

01:23:21.000 Yeah.

01:23:22.000 They put the old fights on there?

01:23:23.000 Yeah.

01:23:24.000 Yeah, you can watch some old fights.

01:23:25.000 UFC Fight Pass is just over then.

01:23:27.000 I don't know.

01:23:28.000 What do you do with it?

01:23:30.000 There's other stuff on the Fight Pass that you can't get on ESPN Plus.

01:23:33.000 Make sure I'm right about that.

01:23:36.000 Eddie Bravo jiu-jitsu stuff, that kind of thing.

01:23:37.000 Yeah, Fight Pass is a lot of great shit.

01:23:39.000 But they have glory too.

01:23:41.000 How dare you guys.

01:23:43.000 Make sure that's true though.

01:23:46.000 That ESPN Plus has older pay-per-views.

01:23:48.000 I'm pulling my thing up right now.

01:23:49.000 I don't think so, Joe.

01:23:50.000 Pretty sure it does.

01:23:51.000 Really?

01:23:51.000 Yeah, pretty sure that in the lead up to one of these fights.

01:23:54.000 Well, you can click on it, but you can't go back and say, watch UFC 183. You can't?

01:23:59.000 I don't think so.

01:24:00.000 I don't know.

01:24:01.000 No.

01:24:02.000 No?

01:24:02.000 I think they might only have...

01:24:05.000 That would be kind of cannibalizing Fight Pass.

01:24:08.000 Fight Pass is...

01:24:08.000 They only have the stuff that was aired through ESPN. From now on, they'll have all that stuff.

01:24:14.000 They're building their library from this point.

01:24:16.000 Must have been a pain in the ass, but I know Fight Pass, like, what?

01:24:21.000 UFC 229, the Khabib Conor you can watch on here.

01:24:25.000 Oh.

01:24:26.000 Yeah, so that does have, but only certain ones.

01:24:29.000 Yeah, there's only certain ones.

01:24:30.000 197's on here also.

01:24:32.000 Okay, so it's not all of them.

01:24:34.000 But there's some, so you're right.

01:24:37.000 There's some, but it's not like Fight Pass where you can go through and see all the guys' fights.

01:24:40.000 So Fight Pass, you can see everything.

01:24:40.000 You can see every Pride fight.

01:24:44.000 Fight Pass for me is like, I like throwing up some shit that I've never watched before.

01:24:49.000 Like some Muay Thai.

01:24:50.000 Like where, you know, just some dudes I've never seen fight before.

01:24:53.000 Yeah, I love doing that.

01:24:54.000 I have no interest in that.

01:24:55.000 I like doing that when I work out, for whatever reason.

01:24:58.000 Well, ESPN now, though, but on ESPN 2, those throw up classic fights.

01:25:03.000 Max Holloway, Brian Ortega was on.

01:25:05.000 Connor, Nate Diaz, too.

01:25:06.000 I'll watch those when I'm working out.

01:25:09.000 But again, with all this ESPN and buying this and $79.99, I've never been a dark web guy.

01:25:16.000 And when I clicked on this, I'm like, dude, this is a problem.

01:25:19.000 Because it's so good.

01:25:21.000 It's so good.

01:25:22.000 And when I talk to the young fans around, they're like, yeah, man, why would we pay $80?

01:25:26.000 I'm like, I can't tell you.

01:25:28.000 Because I used to always think you'd be fucking over the fighters.

01:25:30.000 Do you understand the tech knowledge behind it?

01:25:33.000 Do you know how they would stop it?

01:25:34.000 How do you stop a stream?

01:25:35.000 I have no clue.

01:25:38.000 From where I've watched, they can fight them, but you can't stop them.

01:25:43.000 Remember when they were suing people?

01:25:45.000 Yeah.

01:25:45.000 My buddy got sued.

01:25:47.000 Really?

01:25:47.000 Yeah.

01:25:47.000 He put on his gym.

01:25:49.000 He put a paper on his gym and it came after him.

01:25:51.000 Did he make people play or pay?

01:25:52.000 No.

01:25:53.000 No?

01:25:53.000 No, he just had it on.

01:25:54.000 Just put it on for free?

01:25:54.000 He paid the whatever the- Who ratted him out?

01:25:57.000 I don't know.

01:25:57.000 Or they can track the IP address and we're like, hold up, this is a gym where you owe us this much money.

01:26:03.000 And then they look at the capacity or this is how much it is to do that.

01:26:06.000 So he paid just this, whatever, $69.99 at the time.

01:26:09.000 He went, hold up.

01:26:10.000 You're doing it from a public gym and it fits $300?

01:26:13.000 You owe us, whatever, $15,000.

01:26:15.000 Oh, so he made the pay-per-view.

01:26:17.000 So he paid for it.

01:26:18.000 Like on his laptop, but streamed it on a big thing.

01:26:20.000 They don't fuck around, man.

01:26:22.000 This is also for U.S. only.

01:26:24.000 So for people that are outside of the United States, the ESPN Plus thing doesn't.

01:26:29.000 It's not for them.

01:26:30.000 They still watch through Fight Pass or whatever.

01:26:31.000 Okay.

01:26:32.000 They also get it on their regular networks.

01:26:34.000 Correct, correct.

01:26:34.000 Like BTS or whatever.

01:26:36.000 They don't have all that.

01:26:37.000 Like, English fans were making fun of me when I was having proms.

01:26:40.000 They're like, you fucking Americans.

01:26:42.000 I'm like, yeah.

01:26:43.000 So in England, they can watch it for free?

01:26:45.000 A lot of it, yeah.

01:26:47.000 And Brazil.

01:26:48.000 They don't have a pay-per-view thing in England the way we have it here.

01:26:51.000 They do, but it's cheaper.

01:26:52.000 Like, when Joshua fights, it's like $19.99.

01:26:55.000 Oh, really?

01:26:55.000 Yeah.

01:26:56.000 Huh.

01:26:57.000 Why?

01:26:58.000 Are we suckers?

01:26:59.000 Like, what's going on?

01:27:00.000 Is that what it is, Jamie?

01:27:01.000 I think so.

01:27:02.000 We're willing to pay for it, though.

01:27:04.000 Yeah.

01:27:04.000 Yeah, man.

01:27:05.000 If someone's fighting and it's a crazy fight and you've got to pay $70 for the HD... Think how many people bought Floyd Mayweather Pacquiao for $100?

01:27:13.000 Is that what it cost?

01:27:14.000 Yep.

01:27:15.000 $9.99.

01:27:16.000 They've never gotten cheaper from what I remember in my whole life.

01:27:18.000 It's always been around $60 maybe.

01:27:21.000 Yeah.

01:27:21.000 It seems like it's always in the $59, $99, $69, $99, something like that.

01:27:27.000 It's never cheap.

01:27:28.000 No.

01:27:28.000 It's not cheap.

01:27:30.000 They're wild encounters.

01:27:32.000 Dude, I panicked though.

01:27:33.000 When I couldn't figure it out and I knew four of my favorite fighters, I panicked.

01:27:37.000 Yeah.

01:27:37.000 Dude, listen, I love working for the UFC, but I used to fucking love watching, and I still love watching a good pay-per-view.

01:27:45.000 I love pay-per-view.

01:27:47.000 From the comfort of my own home.

01:27:48.000 Nothing better, dude.

01:27:49.000 Just sitting down, kicking back.

01:27:51.000 The best.

01:27:51.000 Watching it all play out.

01:27:53.000 Listen, if I did watch it on the dark web, I'm saying I did.

01:27:56.000 Right.

01:27:56.000 But if I did, I did buy a Stylebender shirt to give back to the UFC. Oh, that's good.

01:28:02.000 So you're still getting some money.

01:28:03.000 How much does Stylebender get out of that?

01:28:04.000 Seven cents.

01:28:05.000 I was thinking about just DMing him $80.

01:28:08.000 He should just start selling his own shirts.

01:28:09.000 I wonder if you can.

01:28:11.000 You can't.

01:28:12.000 I don't think so, right?

01:28:13.000 You have to sell a deal.

01:28:13.000 It has to be through Reebok.

01:28:15.000 That would be insane if that's the truth.

01:28:18.000 I'm sure it is.

01:28:20.000 Don't you think?

01:28:21.000 Do you think fighters must have some sort of a garment and apparel deal?

01:28:25.000 Because they all have Stylebender t-shirts.

01:28:27.000 Everybody has a...

01:28:28.000 You could buy a t-shirt with Yoel Romero.

01:28:32.000 But I bet you can still sell your own shirt.

01:28:34.000 Do you think so?

01:28:35.000 Seems like an unknown fighter would be prevented from doing that.

01:28:38.000 Would be a little strange to stop from trying to build their name.

01:28:41.000 That would be fucked up.

01:28:42.000 But if you're Stylebender...

01:28:44.000 Oh no, Conor has his own gear.

01:28:45.000 Conor has his McGregor August shit.

01:28:48.000 What is that?

01:28:49.000 His own line of clothing.

01:28:50.000 Yeah, but that's like a...

01:28:51.000 It's not athletic gear.

01:28:52.000 Yeah, that's not athletic gear.

01:28:54.000 That's David August.

01:28:55.000 He makes the suits that I wear for the UFC. You're right, bro.

01:28:58.000 So as a fighter, you can have your own shirt and slang it?

01:29:02.000 I don't think you can.

01:29:03.000 I don't know.

01:29:04.000 That's insane.

01:29:05.000 I don't know.

01:29:05.000 I'm not a businessman.

01:29:08.000 I'm not sure.

01:29:08.000 But I would think they have an apparel deal.

01:29:11.000 With Reebok?

01:29:12.000 Yeah.

01:29:12.000 Like, I know that I Know You, that Yoel Romero shirt, which I almost wore today.

01:29:16.000 I forgot to wear it.

01:29:17.000 That'd been hilarious what you did.

01:29:18.000 Dope shirt.

01:29:19.000 Great shirt.

01:29:19.000 Is it Reebok?

01:29:20.000 It's Reebok shirt.

01:29:21.000 Do you see the stylebender Reebok shirt?

01:29:22.000 No.

01:29:23.000 Fucking dope.

01:29:24.000 It looks like the Matrix is all different colors.

01:29:27.000 Shit was sick.

01:29:29.000 That fight was sick, man.

01:29:31.000 He showed who the fuck he is in that fifth round.

01:29:33.000 He showed who the fuck he is.

01:29:35.000 Great fight.

01:29:35.000 That was a great fight.

01:29:37.000 In that fifth round.

01:29:38.000 Favorite fight.

01:29:39.000 He went out there like a fucking monster.

01:29:40.000 They both went out like monsters.

01:29:42.000 Both of them.

01:29:43.000 They did.

01:29:43.000 They did both go out that way.

01:29:45.000 Just Stylebender eventually got to him.

01:29:47.000 That fifth and final round.

01:29:49.000 Woo!

01:29:49.000 And that's what he said when I interviewed him.

01:29:52.000 That he just felt like he was ready to just...

01:29:56.000 Throw it all out there.

01:29:57.000 He was talking to himself in that fifth round and he was saying something to that.

01:30:02.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:30:04.000 He decided to go out there and be a champion.

01:30:08.000 Dude, think about if, let's say Francis becomes world champion, which is definitely a possibility, he's number two.

01:30:14.000 You've got three African champions.

01:30:15.000 Boom, boom, boom.

01:30:16.000 Yeah.

01:30:18.000 Well, if Daniel Cormier decides to retire, and Francis keeps getting better, I mean, Francis has only been doing mixed martial arts for what, five years?

01:30:27.000 Four months.

01:30:31.000 He's so powerful, man.

01:30:33.000 That's what I told him.

01:30:35.000 I told him, wait it out, let DC do his thing, and you just go do your thing.

01:30:39.000 Because he just kept saying, whatever gets me entitled, I don't know what you're talking about.

01:30:42.000 Let's not fight DC. Let him go out and do his thing, then you go.

01:30:46.000 What that dude needs is a best friend who's a super heavyweight wrestler.

01:30:50.000 Correct.

01:30:50.000 That's what that dude needs.

01:30:51.000 Just a best friend who's like, bro, I'm not going to hurt you.

01:30:54.000 He needs that Russian.

01:30:56.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:30:56.000 He's friendly.

01:30:58.000 That guy's like 55. No, no, I'm saying a guy like that.

01:31:01.000 You should watch a wrestling match with him because it was so preposterous.

01:31:04.000 The way he would hoist guys up in the air.

01:31:07.000 Google Karelin slams.

01:31:09.000 Dude, there's no way that guy's clean.

01:31:11.000 I can't believe you don't know about him.

01:31:11.000 No, I've heard of him.

01:31:12.000 When I saw him, I recognized him.

01:31:15.000 I had a picture of him on my Instagram.

01:31:16.000 I used to have it in my favorites on my iPhone.

01:31:19.000 I'd pull it up every now and then just to remind me of what a pussy I am.

01:31:22.000 Dude, that guy's so intense.

01:31:23.000 It's the black and white one with him grabbing the guy and all the fucking teeth and the muscles.

01:31:28.000 It's crazy.

01:31:30.000 Our American beat him.

01:31:32.000 Rulon Garner beat him.

01:31:33.000 He's all chunky.

01:31:33.000 Look at this.

01:31:34.000 Watch how he'd hoist guys up in the air.

01:31:38.000 Guys would be like, please don't serve.

01:31:40.000 That's embarrassing.

01:31:42.000 Watch this.

01:31:43.000 What the fuck?

01:31:44.000 Boom!

01:31:45.000 He hit you.

01:31:46.000 He's just using the ground.

01:31:48.000 Watch this.

01:31:49.000 But look how devastating this is to you.

01:31:51.000 Boom!

01:31:52.000 He's driving you with all his fucking weight, all that momentum and power, and he's knocking you the fuck out, man.

01:32:00.000 Holy fuck.

01:32:01.000 Powerful Reebok sweatshirt.

01:32:02.000 Yeah, look at that.

01:32:03.000 Reebok, back in the day, was sponsoring Corellon.

01:32:06.000 Dude, he's so ridiculously big and strong.

01:32:08.000 Dude, who's the little boy wrestling there?

01:32:10.000 That's all he has.

01:32:11.000 Who the fuck's he going to fight?

01:32:12.000 Another 7'3 guy?

01:32:14.000 Be nice.

01:32:15.000 Who the fuck's he going to do?

01:32:15.000 Look at the Reebok shoes.

01:32:16.000 Look at the fucking monster, man.

01:32:19.000 How tall was Carell?

01:32:21.000 I think he was like 6'9 or something like that.

01:32:26.000 Wasn't he undefeated for like ever?

01:32:28.000 For years?

01:32:29.000 He's only 6'3", it says.

01:32:30.000 He says he's only 6'3".

01:32:31.000 That seems weird.

01:32:32.000 What?

01:32:32.000 That doesn't seem to make sense.

01:32:33.000 But he was undefeated forever.

01:32:35.000 Oh man, when he was fighting, I think he was 300 plus pounds.

01:32:40.000 What does it say there?

01:32:41.000 285. 285. Okay.

01:32:43.000 He's 51 now.

01:32:45.000 God damn, that guy was a gorilla.

01:32:46.000 I wonder what he does now.

01:32:47.000 I think he works with wrestlers.

01:32:49.000 Holy fuck.

01:32:50.000 I mean, I think, you know, that whole Russian program, they probably have a very prestigious position.

01:32:56.000 Yeah, wasn't he undefeated forever to Rulon Beaton?

01:32:59.000 Mm-hmm.

01:32:59.000 Yeah, but again, the way he beat him, if you could please Google that, because I think Rulon Garter beat him, and this does count, but by getting him to separate his hands.

01:33:08.000 Yeah, I was looking that up.

01:33:09.000 They had to do a video review, even, of something that happened, and then Rulon was awarded the point, and then that made Carellin be extra aggressive.

01:33:17.000 And Rulon kind of ran, right?

01:33:17.000 He had a 54-inch chest.

01:33:19.000 He said that was really hard for him to get his hands around in the first place.

01:33:21.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.

01:33:22.000 Rulon's a big fella.

01:33:23.000 Yeah.

01:33:23.000 Remember when Rulon fought MMA? He was blasting people with a jab.

01:33:28.000 He was like getting hit with the bottom of a dumpster.

01:33:31.000 He was so big.

01:33:34.000 Then he went on a hike and got lost in Colorado and lost his toes and fingers?

01:33:38.000 No, I think he was snowboarding.

01:33:42.000 Snowmobiling.

01:33:43.000 I think he was snowmobiling and it broke down and he got frostbite and lost toes.

01:33:48.000 He lost at least one toe, and I think he kept fighting, man.

01:33:51.000 I think he fought in Japan, and I think they let him wear shoes.

01:33:55.000 Oh, that's right.

01:33:55.000 They let you wear wrestling shoes.

01:33:57.000 What's he doing now?

01:33:58.000 I don't know.

01:33:59.000 He was on The Biggest Loser.

01:34:00.000 Oh, that's right.

01:34:01.000 He had eaten a lot after he retired from fighting.

01:34:05.000 Bro, he was so big.

01:34:07.000 Country-fed, son.

01:34:08.000 Look at the size of that motherfucker.

01:34:09.000 That was when he was on The Biggest Loser.

01:34:11.000 He was 474. That boy got some tits high.

01:34:14.000 Yeah, but look at him in Pride.

01:34:16.000 Go to Rulon Gardner in Pride when you see him in shape as an MMA fighter.

01:34:20.000 You realize what a dangerous guy he was.

01:34:22.000 He was an enormous man.

01:34:24.000 Everyone should be thanking their lucky stars that Russian freak didn't decide to start fucking doing that.

01:34:28.000 Look at him right there.

01:34:28.000 Look at him in the far left.

01:34:30.000 Far left.

01:34:30.000 That picture.

01:34:31.000 Dude.

01:34:33.000 That was...

01:34:34.000 Who did he fight there?

01:34:36.000 He ain't skinny.

01:34:37.000 That's...

01:34:38.000 God damn it.

01:34:40.000 That's the judo guy.

01:34:43.000 Fuck.

01:34:44.000 God damn it.

01:34:45.000 I can't believe I can't remember his name.

01:34:47.000 That guy was amazing.

01:34:48.000 Weren't they two Olympic medalists?

01:34:50.000 Who does it say that is?

01:34:50.000 It doesn't say.

01:34:51.000 But I think they're both Olympic gold medalists.

01:34:53.000 Right?

01:34:54.000 Just go to Rulon Gardner's MMA Wikipedia.

01:34:59.000 Ediko Yoshida.

01:35:00.000 Oh, Yoshida.

01:35:01.000 That's right.

01:35:02.000 Exactly.

01:35:02.000 Yoshida started out, he was a gold medalist in judo and was fighting with the Gion.

01:35:10.000 Yeah, because I remember that fight because they were saying they're both gold medalists.

01:35:13.000 I forgot about Yoshida.

01:35:15.000 Another great fighter that was fighting during the Pride days.

01:35:17.000 But here's the point.

01:35:19.000 Rulon Gardner was so much bigger than him, dude.

01:35:23.000 Go back up and you see that photo of the two of them standing right there.

01:35:27.000 Jamie, the one.

01:35:28.000 Yeah, that picture.

01:35:29.000 That's how you get just an understanding of the difference in size.

01:35:34.000 Rulon didn't have that many fights, though.

01:35:36.000 Dude, he was so big.

01:35:37.000 He was smashing that dude with a jab, too.

01:35:40.000 He was beating him with a jab.

01:35:42.000 Yoshida was getting stunned by this giant heavyweight jab.

01:35:49.000 Shout out to Rulon Gardner.

01:35:51.000 Yeah, I think...

01:35:52.000 I don't know if that was his first love, though.

01:35:56.000 I think he really loved wrestling.

01:35:58.000 He said he was burnt out of wrestling, too, though.

01:35:59.000 I remember seeing that, and then he went to MMA. That's tough, man.

01:36:02.000 After all the years of wrestling, especially at that international level.

01:36:05.000 How many of those guys do you think, in the top echelon of amateur wrestling, if they just decided, you know what, fuck this, I'm going right into MMA right now?

01:36:16.000 How many of those guys would be a giant nightmare for everybody?

01:36:19.000 All of the above.

01:36:20.000 All of the above, right?

01:36:20.000 Think about Jordan Burroughs.

01:36:22.000 Are you kidding me?

01:36:23.000 With his athleticism?

01:36:25.000 Dude.

01:36:26.000 And world-class experience?

01:36:27.000 And work ethic?

01:36:28.000 Yeah.

01:36:28.000 And just the knowledge and the mental fortitude it takes to become Jordan Burroughs?

01:36:33.000 Are you kidding me?

01:36:35.000 That's why it's so crazy that Askren and him are going to go at it while Askren is in the middle of embarking on an MMA career.

01:36:39.000 Dude, what if Askren beat him?

01:36:41.000 What if he takes him down?

01:36:42.000 That would be insane.

01:36:44.000 Is that possible?

01:36:44.000 I don't know wrestling that well to the point where does Astro stand a chance?

01:36:49.000 We're going to get lit up on the internet for this, but does he even stand a chance?

01:36:54.000 Or is that crazy?

01:36:55.000 No, I think he does.

01:36:56.000 I don't think he would take it if he did it.

01:36:57.000 I don't think he would take it if he didn't either.

01:36:59.000 He's too smart.

01:37:00.000 Yeah, I mean, I want to see.

01:37:02.000 I'm very curious.

01:37:03.000 He's so hard, dude.

01:37:04.000 Go ahead, go ahead.

01:37:06.000 If there's odds for it.

01:37:09.000 If there's odds?

01:37:10.000 Well, I would imagine Jordan Burroughs has got to be the favorite because...

01:37:14.000 You want to see how big it was or something?

01:37:16.000 Yeah, because Askren has been fighting MMA for so many years now with one and then before that with Bellator.

01:37:22.000 The Bellator one is such a weird situation because he was clearly dominant and clearly their champion.

01:37:26.000 And they just let him go.

01:37:27.000 You know?

01:37:28.000 And I'm really excited about him and Masvidal.

01:37:33.000 Because if there's anybody that's going to be able to give him a really hard time by being sneaky and creative and using slick counter punches and having good wrestling takedown defense and good defense.

01:37:49.000 And he wrestles with a lot of big guys.

01:37:52.000 Big, powerful guys.

01:37:53.000 He's a slick customer.

01:37:54.000 That's a real interesting fight.

01:37:56.000 Because he has such a giant advantage on the feet.

01:37:58.000 Especially coming off of the Darren Till fight.

01:38:02.000 Him being able to knock out Darren Till like that, that's a giant statement.

01:38:06.000 I mean, Darren Till is a legit expert striker.

01:38:10.000 I mean, he's a lightning-fast knockout puncher, knockout kicker, nasty Muay Thai skills, and to see Masvidal crack him like that and drop him...

01:38:24.000 So, it's like, there's never been a better time, like Shab and I were saying, to like fights.

01:38:30.000 There's never been better.

01:38:32.000 There's never been a better group of champions and contenders either.

01:38:35.000 It's like everyone is at the top of the chain.

01:38:40.000 So what were you pulling up right there?

01:38:41.000 I was trying to find out if there's odds on the fight or what's going on.

01:38:45.000 It's a charity event, apparently.

01:38:47.000 So I don't know that it...

01:38:49.000 They're also fighting, but they're weighing in at 74 kilograms, which is 163. Put that up so I can see it.

01:39:00.000 It's 163?

01:39:02.000 Mm-hmm.

01:39:02.000 Oh, wow.

01:39:03.000 So Ben's got to lose some weight.

01:39:07.000 He could do that easy, though, I'm sure.

01:39:08.000 He doesn't say too much more about it, really.

01:39:10.000 It's at 163, apparently.

01:39:12.000 The Jordan Burroughs-Ben Askren match.

01:39:17.000 Brendan Shaw, back from peeing.

01:39:19.000 Oh, man.

01:39:20.000 Oh, boy.

01:39:20.000 That's the best feeling in the world when you have to piss for a long time.

01:39:23.000 Nothing better, dude.

01:39:23.000 And you find...

01:39:24.000 Nothing better, bro.

01:39:29.000 Very interesting.

01:39:30.000 Very interesting.

01:39:31.000 I'm looking forward to that.

01:39:32.000 Where can you watch it?

01:39:34.000 Is it on...

01:39:34.000 I think it's a pay-per-view thing, right?

01:39:36.000 Online?

01:39:36.000 Is that what it is?

01:39:37.000 It doesn't say?

01:39:39.000 I'll definitely pay for that.

01:39:44.000 Flowwrestling.com.

01:39:45.000 I'm on the dark side.

01:39:46.000 Don't go.

01:39:47.000 No, I'm not going to.

01:39:48.000 I'll definitely pay $80.

01:39:49.000 Imagine if you got sued.

01:39:50.000 Imagine if they went after you.

01:39:51.000 This is allegedly.

01:39:52.000 Allegedly.

01:39:53.000 Allegedly.

01:39:54.000 Right.

01:39:54.000 I'm an ESPN Plus cardholder.

01:39:57.000 Oh, there you go.

01:39:58.000 And I contribute.

01:39:59.000 Well, you should be able to illegally stream.

01:40:01.000 No one should say shit.

01:40:02.000 Why?

01:40:03.000 If you're a cardholder.

01:40:04.000 Oh, no, no, because it doesn't get for the pay-per-view.

01:40:07.000 I try to give them my money, dude.

01:40:09.000 That's a bold move on the UFC's part to go with ESPN Plus for all their pay-per-views.

01:40:14.000 That's a bold move.

01:40:16.000 That's like when Apple got rid of the CD tray.

01:40:19.000 What?

01:40:20.000 It's a little shocking at first.

01:40:21.000 No more CDs?

01:40:22.000 But I'm sure they'll figure it out.

01:40:23.000 Yeah.

01:40:24.000 Yeah.

01:40:25.000 Dude, you're an ESPN employee now.

01:40:26.000 It looks like it.

01:40:27.000 Congrats.

01:40:28.000 Well, I'm an independent contractor.

01:40:31.000 That's what the fighters say, too.

01:40:32.000 I am.

01:40:34.000 I'm an independent contractor.

01:40:36.000 But to watch, you have to have ESPN. Yes.

01:40:39.000 I pay for it.

01:40:40.000 I pay for it.

01:40:41.000 Listen, I love ESPN, so I grew up with ESPN. Listen, man.

01:40:44.000 I think it's good for the sport.

01:40:45.000 I think these hiccups aren't great, but...

01:40:48.000 The future is in streaming.

01:40:50.000 Yes.

01:40:50.000 The future is in something on the internet.

01:40:52.000 100%.

01:40:53.000 As long as everyone...

01:40:55.000 See, right now, there's a lot of people out there that got fucked because they might have a nice TV, but it's not set up for the internet.

01:41:00.000 And they couldn't set it up in time.

01:41:03.000 So, it's going to take a little bit of an adjustment period, you know, and eventually, you know, some people don't want to have to go out and fucking buy something that's internet ready, like a TV that's internet ready.

01:41:15.000 To watch it on your TV. If you've got a TV at home and you've got a satellite and you don't know how to fucking set up your TV for the internet.

01:41:21.000 You're not banking on those people.

01:41:23.000 They're banking on the people who figure this shit out in the future.

01:41:26.000 But what I'm saying is it's going to be a bit of a learning curve for a lot of people before they absolutely know this is how to do it.

01:41:34.000 So that's why it's a bold move.

01:41:36.000 But you have to do it, whether it's now or in six years, you have to do it.

01:41:39.000 You don't want to do it in six years, because then everybody will already have done it.

01:41:42.000 Dude, I support the movement.

01:41:43.000 Yeah, you've got to be there in six years.

01:41:45.000 So six years down the line, everybody knows, pay-per-view tonight on ESPN+. That's what they're going to say.

01:41:50.000 They're going to say, dude, pay-per-view tonight on ESPN+. I bet you it's not ESPN+. I bet you in six years, just ESPN. There won't be any+.

01:41:59.000 I bet everything's digital.

01:42:01.000 Interesting.

01:42:03.000 It's a good move.

01:42:04.000 It's funny because the only reason to have regular TV for a lot of people is live sports.

01:42:11.000 Regular people, a lot of people, like, look, you can get a whole fucking year of whatever TV show you want to watch on iTunes, or you can watch Netflix.

01:42:20.000 But now YouTube has sports.

01:42:22.000 Right, but remember how much it used to cost to get, like, cable?

01:42:27.000 Like, how much cable used to cost?

01:42:29.000 Yeah.

01:42:29.000 How much DirecTV used to cost?

01:42:30.000 How much did it cost?

01:42:31.000 Well, yeah.

01:42:32.000 I did have a dish sponsor for, like, the last eight years, and they were like, hey, buddy, no more.

01:42:37.000 So I have to pay for it now.

01:42:38.000 It's like a hundred-something dollars a month now?

01:42:41.000 Now think of that in terms of what Netflix costs.

01:42:44.000 What's Netflix?

01:42:45.000 Like 10 bucks?

01:42:45.000 Nine bucks or something like that?

01:42:46.000 Didn't they just raise it to like 15?

01:42:48.000 And then you need an internet connection.

01:42:50.000 And then that's it.

01:42:51.000 That's it.

01:42:52.000 Apple TV? YouTube, Apple.

01:42:53.000 Yeah.

01:42:54.000 Or Amazon.

01:42:55.000 Because I don't have HBO, but I have HBO now.

01:42:58.000 Amazon Prime is even more interesting because if you have Amazon Prime for shopping, you get Amazon Prime for free, like the TV. You watch the TV shows.

01:43:08.000 So you get to watch Mrs. Maisel.

01:43:11.000 Do you ever watch the guys from Top Gear?

01:43:13.000 Oh, I love those guys.

01:43:15.000 They went over to the Grand Tour.

01:43:17.000 Yeah, they went over there because they fired them and the other two guys went, fuck it, we're going with them.

01:43:21.000 Yes.

01:43:21.000 Type move.

01:43:22.000 Well, Jeremy Clarkson got drunk and punched some dude, and so they fired him.

01:43:25.000 I guess he was difficult on set or whatever.

01:43:27.000 Whatever.

01:43:27.000 The guy's awesome.

01:43:28.000 He's the best.

01:43:29.000 He's hilarious.

01:43:30.000 The best.

01:43:30.000 Funny dude.

01:43:31.000 Can't do a show without him.

01:43:32.000 And so, apparently, they just ended that show, and he was crying.

01:43:37.000 He cried.

01:43:38.000 He teared up.

01:43:39.000 Oh, it's over?

01:43:40.000 Yeah.

01:43:41.000 Oh, damn.

01:43:41.000 Yeah, I think they committed to do a couple of seasons.

01:43:45.000 They were paying him so much money.

01:43:46.000 I'm sure.

01:43:47.000 Well, it's a good move.

01:43:48.000 Rightfully so.

01:43:49.000 That Bezos dude's burning money.

01:43:50.000 He can do whatever the fuck he wants.

01:43:52.000 He has so much money.

01:43:52.000 Although his girl has half now.

01:43:54.000 She's third on the list of richest.

01:43:56.000 Chaka, chaka, chaka.

01:43:58.000 Yeah.

01:43:59.000 He has that dimey piece with him now, though.

01:44:00.000 Hulu's got in a game, too, for live stuff.

01:44:04.000 So it's like everyone is playing the game.

01:44:07.000 Pretty soon it's going to be over.

01:44:08.000 Imagine if you're trying to shoot a sitcom right now.

01:44:10.000 Could you imagine if a guy got divorced from a woman who's like a duchess or some shit and made out in the deal as good as Jeff Bezos' wife was going to make out?

01:44:19.000 To be sick.

01:44:20.000 Did she get like a billion dollars or something like that?

01:44:23.000 She got way more than a billion.

01:44:24.000 She's going to get billions, son.

01:44:26.000 They said as soon as they divorce, she's going to be like top 10 richest in the world.

01:44:29.000 Yeah.

01:44:29.000 He gave her like 25% of his stock or some crazy shit.

01:44:34.000 But they did start together in his room.

01:44:36.000 Yes!

01:44:37.000 Listen, man.

01:44:38.000 Yeah, she deserves it.

01:44:40.000 But it's hilarious.

01:44:42.000 It's hilarious.

01:44:42.000 It's so much money.

01:44:43.000 Like, damn, she banked on it correctly.

01:44:45.000 She's hanging out with that dude when he was like 24 going, this is a fucking psycho.

01:44:49.000 He's going to run the world.

01:44:51.000 Have you seen that?

01:44:51.000 Yes, that picture.

01:44:53.000 That picture's amazing.

01:44:55.000 I want that.

01:44:56.000 Send me that picture.

01:44:57.000 Isn't that a great picture?

01:44:58.000 Do me a favor and send that to my phone.

01:45:00.000 I need to see that picture on my phone.

01:45:02.000 I'm going to replace the American flag with that.

01:45:06.000 Isn't that great?

01:45:07.000 I'm serious.

01:45:09.000 And he's like shaved his head, TRT tan, stylus, ballin'.

01:45:15.000 Just look at that banner on the wall.

01:45:17.000 Just the little desk and shit.

01:45:19.000 The spray paint banner.

01:45:20.000 Look at him there.

01:45:21.000 Dude, and have you seen his new girl?

01:45:23.000 What's up?

01:45:24.000 Holla.

01:45:25.000 Sure, that costs you about $40 billion, but you gotta be happy.

01:45:28.000 Yeah, he looks like he's enjoying it.

01:45:30.000 Also, when you have $80 billion, what's $40?

01:45:32.000 Who gives a fuck?

01:45:33.000 How much can you spend?

01:45:34.000 And by the way...

01:45:35.000 You can't spend it.

01:45:35.000 Do you think he's gonna...

01:45:36.000 Here's the problem with that dude.

01:45:37.000 He might be making so much money that if you think about it, like, when did Amazon even start?

01:45:43.000 Was it 15 years ago?

01:45:44.000 I mean, what year was that?

01:45:45.000 A hot second ago.

01:45:46.000 Wasn't that long ago.

01:45:47.000 What's gonna be like 15 years from now when he's on fucking gene doping and they got a...

01:45:55.000 Backdated to a 24-year-old Bezos.

01:45:57.000 His chin looks thicker.

01:45:59.000 He's got shoulder caps.

01:46:02.000 He's going to be 85 years old, running shit, looking 30. How much money do you need if you're that guy?

01:46:07.000 He'll have a billion, billion dollars.

01:46:09.000 This is my point.

01:46:10.000 If he stays healthy...

01:46:13.000 And is enthusiastic and still has this drive to succeed.

01:46:17.000 How much is he going to be worth?

01:46:18.000 When you start getting that kind of momentum, that's why companies like...

01:46:22.000 That's why you get people like Elizabeth Warren.

01:46:25.000 I don't know too much about her politics, but one of the things that I do know about her is she wants to shut down or break up some of these big companies.

01:46:34.000 You know, there's a...

01:46:34.000 Yeah.

01:46:35.000 I forget what big companies she was talking about, but that would be an example.

01:46:39.000 Like, yeah, just too much power.

01:46:40.000 So much power.

01:46:42.000 So much power.

01:46:42.000 She'd probably want to break them up.

01:46:43.000 It's interesting.

01:46:44.000 Because, like, you see, like, what is...

01:46:46.000 When you see capitalism play out, right?

01:46:49.000 You see someone...

01:46:51.000 They kick ass.

01:46:51.000 They want to make a lot of money.

01:46:52.000 And then they do.

01:46:53.000 And then they keep going.

01:46:54.000 And then they get to this point where they can make more money more easily, more often.

01:46:59.000 And they just keep going, keep going.

01:47:00.000 And then they get to this point where if you hit the right river at the perfect time with the most ambitious person ever at the helm, and you got this fucking boat running, running down this river, just passing everybody.

01:47:14.000 That's where you got Amazon with Jeff Bezos.

01:47:16.000 It was the perfect guy at the perfect time with the perfect adjusting to the role of Scrooge McDuck.

01:47:24.000 He's like, Elon wants to make a rocket shop?

01:47:26.000 Get me a rocket ship!

01:47:27.000 Correct.

01:47:29.000 It's an ego thing.

01:47:30.000 Why is he exploring space?

01:47:32.000 Isn't he busy?

01:47:32.000 What else are you going to do, though?

01:47:33.000 Yeah.

01:47:34.000 You have nothing to do.

01:47:35.000 Like, what challenges does he have?

01:47:37.000 Bro, that one click is the shit.

01:47:38.000 If you need something, it's the shit.

01:47:40.000 Amazon?

01:47:41.000 Yeah.

01:47:41.000 It's amazing.

01:47:42.000 It's the shit.

01:47:42.000 The best.

01:47:42.000 If you need anything.

01:47:43.000 Anything.

01:47:44.000 Yeah.

01:47:44.000 Just...

01:47:45.000 Just go fucking find it.

01:47:46.000 Bang, boom.

01:47:47.000 You don't have to think about it anymore.

01:47:48.000 That, to me, that means a lot to me.

01:47:51.000 That means everything.

01:47:52.000 Time.

01:47:52.000 I can save time and hassle.

01:47:54.000 Thank you.

01:47:55.000 I don't have to leave my house.

01:47:56.000 Thank you.

01:47:57.000 She's actually the only third richest in the world.

01:48:00.000 Third richest woman.

01:48:01.000 They made a deal last month, or this month, actually, to give her $35 billion.

01:48:05.000 That's it?

01:48:06.000 Woo!

01:48:07.000 Good for her.

01:48:07.000 And she keeps a 4% stake.

01:48:09.000 I thought it was more than that.

01:48:11.000 Damn, she is ballin'.

01:48:13.000 She's ballin'.

01:48:14.000 She's single?

01:48:15.000 Just 4% stake in Amazon is fucking insane.

01:48:19.000 And where is it going?

01:48:20.000 Where is it going?

01:48:21.000 What's it going to be 10 years from now?

01:48:23.000 What's it going to be 15 years from now?

01:48:24.000 Jesus.

01:48:26.000 And she's got $35 billion.

01:48:27.000 Jesus!

01:48:29.000 Jesus!

01:48:30.000 $35 billion.

01:48:31.000 I bet she went, alright.

01:48:33.000 She's so used to it.

01:48:35.000 I'll give you $35 billion.

01:48:36.000 You're not going to spend that.

01:48:37.000 She went, alright, cool.

01:48:39.000 Do you need $35?

01:48:41.000 But also, I think Jeff Bezos had a weird agreement with his new hot girl where they're not having sex until the divorce is final or some shit like that.

01:48:49.000 Oh, sure.

01:48:51.000 Yeah, it's like some weird thing.

01:48:53.000 Dude, just bust nuts.

01:48:55.000 That's the story.

01:48:56.000 They're staying away from each other until they...

01:48:57.000 Dude, what are you doing, Jeff?

01:48:58.000 ...are divorced and married or something like that.

01:49:00.000 She's getting divorced, too, I guess.

01:49:01.000 Jesus.

01:49:02.000 Oh, yeah, she's getting divorced, too.

01:49:04.000 If you want to live like a movie, you've got to write a script like a movie script.

01:49:09.000 Dude's already living like he's in a movie.

01:49:12.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:49:13.000 Yeah.

01:49:15.000 And then when you get married, make everybody dress up like priests or some shit.

01:49:18.000 Do whatever you want to do.

01:49:19.000 God!

01:49:20.000 Make everybody dress up like a...

01:49:21.000 Like a Kanye service?

01:49:23.000 Yeah, like one of those.

01:49:24.000 Do whatever you want.

01:49:26.000 God, what do you do, man?

01:49:27.000 It's falling out of control.

01:49:28.000 What do you do?

01:49:29.000 What do you do?

01:49:30.000 Well, what would you do?

01:49:32.000 Just do whatever the fuck...

01:49:33.000 He can do whatever the fuck he wants to do.

01:49:34.000 You're supposed to do whatever the fuck you want to do.

01:49:36.000 There's only one Jeff Bezos.

01:49:37.000 I know, but at what point do you just stop kind of...

01:49:40.000 You fucking keep the foot on the gas.

01:49:47.000 Like, if you're The Rock, do you need to do 19 movies?

01:49:51.000 Or can we do three?

01:49:53.000 Last year I did 19 movies.

01:49:55.000 This year, 22. 22 movies!

01:49:57.000 He's gonna do 22 movies in the fucking year.

01:50:00.000 And I'm getting bigger, matter of fact.

01:50:01.000 Yeah, he'll be 3,000 pounds.

01:50:03.000 Yeah.

01:50:04.000 Like, how many?

01:50:05.000 He's a gorilla, man.

01:50:06.000 That dude's so jacked right now.

01:50:08.000 He's so huge, too.

01:50:09.000 When you meet him in real life, you're like, oh my goodness.

01:50:11.000 He's so jacked.

01:50:12.000 He's so jacked.

01:50:13.000 He's so inspirational, too, man.

01:50:16.000 You know, he's...

01:50:17.000 But you know how he's being busy?

01:50:19.000 Like, how often is he home?

01:50:20.000 Dude, he's so inspirational.

01:50:22.000 Oh, that's true.

01:50:23.000 Yeah.

01:50:23.000 Yeah, it's hard, man.

01:50:24.000 It ain't easy.

01:50:25.000 Well, I know my schedule.

01:50:26.000 Yeah.

01:50:27.000 And I look at how often I'm home.

01:50:28.000 Look at this motherfucker.

01:50:28.000 I look at his.

01:50:30.000 That's a silverback.

01:50:31.000 Dude, his Under Armour shoes are dope, too.

01:50:33.000 His workout shoes.

01:50:34.000 He's so jacked.

01:50:36.000 Workout shoes are dope.

01:50:37.000 I love this fucking guy, man.

01:50:38.000 I love the fact that I can go to his Instagram at any time, and he's always super positive, and he's always super motivated and motivational, and he's always getting after it.

01:50:47.000 I love it.

01:50:48.000 He's always getting after it.

01:50:50.000 But I wonder what it is in him that you have to do this many movies.

01:50:54.000 I think when he was young, man, he was young.

01:50:56.000 He fell upon hard times, and he never forgot.

01:50:59.000 And that's who he is now.

01:51:00.000 And he also knows that he inspires people with that work ethic.

01:51:04.000 Part of who he is...

01:51:06.000 Is not just the things that he accomplishes, but how he makes people feel.

01:51:10.000 Like that guy, he's an inspirational person.

01:51:13.000 I think the same thing you could say about Kevin Hart in a lot of ways, man.

01:51:16.000 Don't you think it's for selfish reasons too, though?

01:51:18.000 Because you check those boxes.

01:51:19.000 I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but there's also this ego.

01:51:22.000 Everyone has an ego that he has to fill.

01:51:25.000 Oh, dude.

01:51:25.000 Which he gets from these movies and red carpets.

01:51:28.000 He talks about it.

01:51:29.000 He talks about kicking ass.

01:51:30.000 He talks about how everything's going great.

01:51:32.000 You know, he talks about...

01:51:34.000 Getting after it.

01:51:35.000 That whole aspect of it.

01:51:36.000 Sure.

01:51:37.000 Yeah, but there's a getting after it.

01:51:38.000 Selfish.

01:51:38.000 For sure.

01:51:39.000 For sure.

01:51:39.000 You have to be.

01:51:40.000 Yeah, you have to be.

01:51:41.000 For anybody who does anything really good like that, you've got to be doing some of it for yourself.

01:51:46.000 But he's also...

01:51:48.000 What he's getting out of it is what he gets out of it, but what he gives out of it, it's not just entertaining with that guy.

01:51:55.000 What's interesting is he's also super motivational, right?

01:52:00.000 He leads by example, which I appreciate.

01:52:02.000 Yes, always really positive.

01:52:04.000 Now, before social media, when you had an action star, you just had the guy that you went to see in the movie and you saw like...

01:52:12.000 You know, Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Terminator.

01:52:16.000 Yeah, they would do interviews.

01:52:17.000 We can't relate to him.

01:52:18.000 Yeah, it would be kind of interesting.

01:52:19.000 But it wasn't this kind of thing.

01:52:21.000 The Rock is The Rock, and he's also The Rock on social media.

01:52:25.000 And he makes very good use of social media.

01:52:27.000 He's amazing at it.

01:52:28.000 Because he just talks right to the fucking camera.

01:52:30.000 And you could tell.

01:52:31.000 He knows what he wants to say, but he's speaking from the heart.

01:52:34.000 He's just talking to people.

01:52:35.000 And he has a plan, yes.

01:52:35.000 So he's interacting with people in a way.

01:52:37.000 You know who's done even better than this, which The Rocks might be the best, but on the other side of this, Will Smith.

01:52:43.000 He's fantastic.

01:52:44.000 Will Smith went, hold up, okay, so the movie's doing alright, but Instagram's the new shit?

01:52:49.000 Alright, let me focus on this, and it's, I mean, ridiculous how good he is on there.

01:52:54.000 Well, on YouTube as well.

01:52:55.000 Remember when he did that fucking dance on the roof of that bridge?

01:52:58.000 Climbed up.

01:53:00.000 Don't fall down, Will Smith.

01:53:02.000 Don't fall down while you're dancing.

01:53:04.000 Kevin Hart's good on social media too, though.

01:53:06.000 No, he's phenomenal at it.

01:53:07.000 He's one of the most inspirational guys I've ever talked to.

01:53:11.000 Kevin?

01:53:12.000 Yeah.

01:53:12.000 I liked his message.

01:53:13.000 And so positive.

01:53:15.000 Super positive.

01:53:16.000 But genuine.

01:53:16.000 Genuine.

01:53:17.000 Not a bullshit positive.

01:53:19.000 Not a fake show business positive.

01:53:21.000 Not a motivational show business positive.

01:53:23.000 He's got a healthy outlook.

01:53:26.000 He does so many things, though.

01:53:27.000 I got tired just listening to him talk about all his businesses.

01:53:31.000 He has so much energy.

01:53:32.000 He was talking about all his businesses.

01:53:33.000 I was getting exhausted.

01:53:34.000 I was like, how do you do that?

01:53:36.000 How do you have the time?

01:53:38.000 It's incredible.

01:53:39.000 I mean, he must sleep...

01:53:41.000 And he said he only sleeps a few hours a night.

01:53:43.000 But I mean, he must be just, from the moment he gets up, just fucking foot on the gas.

01:53:48.000 I wish I was one of those guys.

01:53:49.000 I wish I was one of those guys who only needed four hours and could just do function at a high level.

01:53:53.000 If I don't get eight, I'm fucked, man.

01:53:55.000 Do you...

01:53:57.000 I don't think, but I mean, do you really wish you were that guy, though, that always hit the gas all day long?

01:54:02.000 Whoa, whoa.

01:54:03.000 No, I'm saying I could get four Monday through Sunday, and then before my son gets up at five, I'm up at three, I get my workouts in, I can do all my research for my shows, and then I'm off and running.

01:54:15.000 Yeah.

01:54:15.000 I need eight, man.

01:54:16.000 Right.

01:54:17.000 So if I do a set tomorrow at the Comedy Store, I get home at midnight.

01:54:21.000 No matter what, I'm up at 5, 5.30 with my son, and I go to work.

01:54:25.000 Right.

01:54:26.000 It's a beast of a day.

01:54:27.000 Yeah.

01:54:28.000 When there's certain guys, they just need four hours.

01:54:31.000 Yeah, those people are freaks.

01:54:33.000 You're not that guy, right?

01:54:34.000 No.

01:54:35.000 I need five to feel okay.

01:54:37.000 Six to feel good.

01:54:38.000 Six, I can work out normal.

01:54:40.000 I can do anything.

01:54:41.000 Seven makes me feel happy.

01:54:43.000 Seven is nice.

01:54:44.000 I'm seven.

01:54:45.000 I'm a seven guy.

01:54:47.000 Yeah.

01:54:49.000 Seven's good.

01:54:50.000 Seven's a solid number.

01:54:52.000 If you could get that, you'd probably got most of your bases covered.

01:54:56.000 But damn, if you'd get eight or nine.

01:54:58.000 That's when the real...

01:54:58.000 If you could really sleep for eight or nine.

01:55:00.000 Like, engineer it.

01:55:01.000 So don't...

01:55:01.000 My problem is I drink too much water at night.

01:55:03.000 I gotta pee.

01:55:04.000 Yeah, it's so annoying.

01:55:06.000 I know.

01:55:06.000 It's so stupid.

01:55:07.000 And, like, I had a Zevia last night while I was watching Game of Thrones.

01:55:09.000 I'm like, I shouldn't have this.

01:55:10.000 Of course you did.

01:55:11.000 I'm gonna have to pee.

01:55:11.000 Dude, I... I have a problem.

01:55:13.000 I have a problem.

01:55:14.000 I have to.

01:55:15.000 It's so weird.

01:55:16.000 I have to have beverages.

01:55:17.000 Yes!

01:55:18.000 I want to enjoy myself!

01:55:18.000 When I'm at home, I have beverages.

01:55:20.000 I'm at home!

01:55:21.000 Living life, bro!

01:55:21.000 It's my fucking TV! Yeah!

01:55:24.000 Yeah, you just want to be able to sit back and slurp that Zevia.

01:55:28.000 Nothing better.

01:55:29.000 Five o'clock in the morning.

01:55:30.000 God damn it.

01:55:31.000 Do you ever sip on whiskey or anything at night with the wifey watching Game of Thrones?

01:55:35.000 No.

01:55:35.000 I'll drink a little wine with dinner, but I don't drink whiskey at home very often.

01:55:39.000 I drink whiskey when I'm looking to get fucked up.

01:55:41.000 Or before you do stand-up.

01:55:43.000 Yeah, I'll have a shot.

01:55:44.000 Here's the problem.

01:55:45.000 So if I become an alcoholic in three years, it all stems...

01:55:48.000 I'm blaming you.

01:55:49.000 Because when we were doing that set, I think at the improv, you're like, you want a shot of whiskey?

01:55:52.000 I'm like, I don't drink before it shows, man.

01:55:54.000 You're like, I'm telling you, it helps you with your nerves.

01:55:56.000 So I was like, all right, this guy's been doing it forever.

01:55:58.000 Let me try it.

01:55:59.000 Did the shot...

01:56:00.000 One of the best sets I've ever had.

01:56:01.000 I don't know how long ago that was.

01:56:03.000 Two months ago?

01:56:04.000 Three months ago?

01:56:05.000 Every time I do comedy now, I have a shot of whiskey.

01:56:09.000 Well, make sure you don't do that.

01:56:12.000 Why not, bro?

01:56:13.000 Because you don't want to become an alcoholic.

01:56:15.000 But it's one shot?

01:56:16.000 Hey, come on.

01:56:18.000 Come on.

01:56:19.000 Who's going to get a whistle wet, bro?

01:56:21.000 One shot every day.

01:56:23.000 Yeah, you can do it.

01:56:24.000 Yeah, I feel good.

01:56:25.000 Because I work out the next morning.

01:56:28.000 Hydrate.

01:56:28.000 One shot is not that bad for your body.

01:56:31.000 No.

01:56:31.000 It's not the best thing in the world, but it's not that bad.

01:56:34.000 But it's a good amount to give you like a little, just a little fuck it juice.

01:56:39.000 Yeah, a little loosey-goosey.

01:56:40.000 That's so uptight.

01:56:41.000 It's a fuck it, man.

01:56:43.000 Yeah.

01:56:43.000 Come on, let's have some fun.

01:56:44.000 Yeah, that's what whiskey's for, you know?

01:56:46.000 That's why it's been around so long.

01:56:48.000 You know like that Buffalo Trace shit that we drank when we were doing the podcast?

01:56:51.000 I love that shit, man.

01:56:52.000 That stuff's from the 1700s.

01:56:54.000 Fucking right it is.

01:56:55.000 That fucking company was started in the 1700s.

01:56:58.000 You know how ridiculous that is?

01:56:59.000 I was thinking about orange some for my house because I like that whiskey so much.

01:57:03.000 I'm like, I don't need that in my life because I'll just start drinking.

01:57:06.000 Become domestic.

01:57:06.000 I'm not an alcoholic, man.

01:57:10.000 It's good during fight companions.

01:57:12.000 Yeah, I'm going to save it for that.

01:57:13.000 I don't keep whiskey at home.

01:57:15.000 I don't find myself interested in drinking it.

01:57:18.000 I don't either.

01:57:18.000 Because if I want to get a little tipsy, I want to be with my boys and fuck around.

01:57:22.000 I don't...

01:57:22.000 I like it at a bar.

01:57:23.000 I like it at a comedy club.

01:57:26.000 I like it here.

01:57:27.000 I love it during Five Companions.

01:57:28.000 It's my favorite.

01:57:29.000 But if I had a man cave where guys came over and we played poker, we'd drink some whiskey.

01:57:35.000 That'd be fun.

01:57:36.000 But again, you're with your boys.

01:57:38.000 But I'm just chilling at home by myself.

01:57:40.000 I might get drunk and say something inappropriate.

01:57:44.000 Get canceled in my own house.

01:57:46.000 It's a different kind of drunk, too.

01:57:48.000 Like, whiskey drunk is like, Jesus Christ.

01:57:51.000 Like, you know, you get belligerent.

01:57:54.000 I don't need that.

01:57:55.000 Too old for that.

01:57:56.000 Too old for that.

01:57:57.000 You start having fun.

01:57:58.000 You start playing Hank Williams Jr.'s songs real loud.

01:58:02.000 Outlandish.

01:58:03.000 Yeah.

01:58:04.000 Yeah.

01:58:05.000 Dude.

01:58:06.000 There's some fucking, you go into that deep country music.

01:58:09.000 What were you just telling me about country music?

01:58:11.000 That's some giant country rap.

01:58:13.000 Oh, this is hilarious.

01:58:14.000 What is the song?

01:58:15.000 It's called Old Town Road.

01:58:16.000 Old Town Road?

01:58:17.000 Yeah, so it's like one of the biggest songs out at the moment.

01:58:20.000 It's number one on the regular charts and the country charts, right?

01:58:23.000 Who put it together?

01:58:24.000 Lil Nas X, is that right?

01:58:26.000 Everyone's Lil Nas X. So he was on the country charts.

01:58:31.000 They took him off because this isn't country, man.

01:58:34.000 But then he linked up with Miley Cyrus' dad.

01:58:36.000 What's his name?

01:58:37.000 Billy Ray Cyrus.

01:58:39.000 How dare you?

01:58:40.000 Yeah, so I think what also had to do with this is he used, whether he did it or not, I don't know, but he used the video game Red Dead Redemption and some of the cool graphics and then made a rap song, country rap song.

01:58:52.000 It's called Country Trap is what they're calling it.

01:58:54.000 That's why it's a different thing, but it's catchy and it's based around this kind of stuff.

01:58:59.000 It got...

01:59:00.000 It got hot.

01:59:01.000 It caught the wave.

01:59:03.000 The DJs on all the stations were just ripping it off of YouTube and playing it.

01:59:07.000 That's why it made it on the Billboard.

01:59:08.000 And then Billboard was like, this isn't a country song, take it off.

01:59:12.000 Because that almost, it's like Streisand effect, it got bigger.

01:59:15.000 So, who took it off?

01:59:21.000 Billboard did.

01:59:22.000 Why did they take it off?

01:59:22.000 Because it doesn't, and their description was that it doesn't meet the qualifications to meet country or whatever.

01:59:28.000 Until Billy Ray Cyrus jumped on board.

01:59:30.000 And then there's video of him and Billy Ray Cyrus in the studio.

01:59:33.000 You know, it's so interesting when you're looking at the footage of it, how cool that fucking game looks.

01:59:38.000 It's just a game.

01:59:39.000 That's a huge game, right?

01:59:40.000 Red Redemption 2. But what a great idea to rap over Red Dead Redemption.

01:59:46.000 That's a genius idea.

01:59:47.000 That shit is so huge.

01:59:49.000 We played it in here.

01:59:49.000 Jamie and I were playing it.

01:59:50.000 Good game?

01:59:51.000 Yeah.

01:59:52.000 You guys beat the shit out of me whatever game we played last time.

01:59:54.000 That was quick.

01:59:55.000 That was fucked up.

01:59:55.000 You don't want to fuck with that game.

01:59:57.000 We were just talking about Tom Papa walked in.

01:59:59.000 Jeff and I were battling to death.

02:00:01.000 Tom Papa don't play.

02:00:03.000 No, he was just watching us.

02:00:04.000 What the fuck are you doing?

02:00:05.000 What are you doing?

02:00:06.000 What are you doing?

02:00:06.000 Tom Pop is so funny, man.

02:00:07.000 I love that guy.

02:00:08.000 He just wants everything to be old school.

02:00:09.000 He's so nice.

02:00:10.000 He wants to go to the paper vendor and get a newspaper and bake his own bread.

02:00:14.000 I dig that.

02:00:15.000 What is this, Manson?

02:00:16.000 What is that?

02:00:17.000 They've made a remix of it now with Billy Ray.

02:00:19.000 This is like a real video now.

02:00:21.000 Oh, so they made a real video.

02:00:22.000 Oh, wow.

02:00:23.000 See, I'm not feeling the real video.

02:00:25.000 Dude, I like the way his dude dances with a cowboy hat on, though.

02:00:28.000 I love it.

02:00:28.000 But he's become a star because of this.

02:00:30.000 It's getting played at all the festivals all the last couple weeks.

02:00:33.000 The crowds are loving it.

02:00:34.000 Why didn't he open up at Coachella?

02:00:36.000 It was already booked.

02:00:37.000 This happened so quick.

02:00:39.000 You could sneak him in with Billy Ray Cyrus.

02:00:41.000 Let Billy Ray get his whistle wet at Coachella.

02:00:43.000 He might have played it, I'm sure.

02:00:45.000 I saw that little...

02:00:46.000 The Yodel Kid was singing this song.

02:00:48.000 He's even caught on to this song and all that kind of shit.

02:00:50.000 Do you know who Billy Ray Cyrus is?

02:00:51.000 Do you know his big hit?

02:00:52.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:53.000 Don't break my heart.

02:00:55.000 Isn't it weird?

02:00:56.000 His daughter's way bigger.

02:00:58.000 He was really huge for a brief moment in time.

02:01:02.000 But yeah, he was never like what she is.

02:01:04.000 She's a cultural phenomenon.

02:01:06.000 She can sing too.

02:01:07.000 She can sound as fuck.

02:01:07.000 And she was on that crazy Disney hit forever.

02:01:11.000 Hannah Montana.

02:01:12.000 Forever.

02:01:12.000 Which made no sense.

02:01:13.000 I put a wig on.

02:01:14.000 Nobody notices me.

02:01:15.000 That is strange.

02:01:16.000 So ridiculous.

02:01:17.000 Almost like Batman.

02:01:18.000 There he is.

02:01:18.000 Look at that.

02:01:19.000 Glorious locks.

02:01:20.000 God, looks like Theo's brother.

02:01:23.000 Just a powerful moment.

02:01:24.000 Everybody was doing the Achy Breaky Heart back then.

02:01:26.000 53 million.

02:01:27.000 I bet that must have fucking freaked him out, man.

02:01:30.000 To be as famous he was back then for that brief moment in time.

02:01:34.000 Dude, he was so famous.

02:01:35.000 Don't you think it's weirder now to be famous?

02:01:37.000 Like back then you could get away with things and now it's a nightmare.

02:01:41.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:01:42.000 Do you remember the Bill Hicks bit?

02:01:43.000 Bill Hicks had a joke about Billy Ray Cyrus.

02:01:45.000 What'd he say?

02:01:46.000 It was terrible.

02:01:47.000 He was so mean.

02:01:48.000 He was saying that this is my last show.

02:01:51.000 I'm not doing stand-up anymore because I got a TV show.

02:01:55.000 He goes, thank you, ladies and gentlemen.

02:01:57.000 I mean, I worked hard forever, and now we're going to do a new television show.

02:02:02.000 It's called Let's Hunt and Kill Billy Ray Cyrus.

02:02:05.000 Jesus Christ!

02:02:07.000 Chase him down.

02:02:08.000 I forget what he...

02:02:09.000 But he said, like, grab him by his faggy ponytail.

02:02:12.000 Jesus.

02:02:14.000 Wow.

02:02:15.000 It's intense.

02:02:16.000 It was ruthless.

02:02:17.000 It was ruthless.

02:02:20.000 Because Billy Ray only had that one hit, right?

02:02:22.000 He didn't have, like, multiple big hits.

02:02:24.000 I think that was kind of it.

02:02:25.000 Maybe he had, like, one or two other songs that were kind of popular, but that song was giganti.

02:02:30.000 It's interesting that his daughter's so big.

02:02:32.000 She's so talented, man.

02:02:34.000 You ever heard that song, Malibu?

02:02:35.000 She's so good, man.

02:02:36.000 She's so good.

02:02:38.000 Yeah.

02:02:39.000 Can't tell people you like it, though.

02:02:41.000 They get mad at you when you're wearing those shoes.

02:02:44.000 And I don't give a fuck.

02:02:46.000 Dude.

02:02:47.000 Wrecking Ball for Miley Cyrus?

02:02:49.000 Acoustic?

02:02:50.000 Suck this dick.

02:02:51.000 She's a beast.

02:02:51.000 I'll listen to that and wear these shoes.

02:02:52.000 The best thing she ever did to me, the most impactful, this was the first time I realized she could really sing, was that song Jolene.

02:03:00.000 Oh my God.

02:03:01.000 You ever heard her do Jolene?

02:03:02.000 Yes.

02:03:03.000 Jesus Christ.

02:03:05.000 Monster.

02:03:06.000 Goddamn.

02:03:06.000 Do you watch American Idol at all?

02:03:09.000 What?

02:03:10.000 Do I look like a girl?

02:03:11.000 You don't watch any American Idol?

02:03:13.000 What the fuck are you talking about, man?

02:03:14.000 I'm a man.

02:03:16.000 I thought we were broing out over music here.

02:03:19.000 I'm not watching American Idol.

02:03:20.000 There's only so much time in this life.

02:03:23.000 They did it at the Grammys this year, but the American Idol.

02:03:25.000 Oh, they sang it together, yeah.

02:03:27.000 That kid's awesome.

02:03:28.000 Yeah, you watch American Idol?

02:03:29.000 You're fucking right, I do.

02:03:31.000 Where do you have the time?

02:03:31.000 Only Sunday nights?

02:03:33.000 How do you have the time for that?

02:03:33.000 Sunday nights!

02:03:34.000 My night off, bro!

02:03:36.000 You could be writing jokes.

02:03:36.000 Sunday night.

02:03:37.000 You could be playing Quake with us in the air.

02:03:39.000 Playing Quake, bro.

02:03:40.000 Calm down.

02:03:40.000 Have a little LAN party.

02:03:41.000 At least they're real.

02:03:42.000 At least they're real people singing.

02:03:44.000 What?

02:03:44.000 You're balls deepening Game of Thrones.

02:03:46.000 They're dragons.

02:03:47.000 It's real.

02:03:48.000 I love it as well.

02:03:49.000 It's real.

02:03:49.000 But I'm just saying.

02:03:50.000 At least American Idol are people pursuing their dreams.

02:03:52.000 Oh, you're so sweet.

02:03:53.000 And they can sing.

02:03:54.000 Yeah.

02:03:56.000 A whole new world.

02:03:58.000 Yeah, kind of.

02:04:02.000 I don't hate on the show.

02:04:04.000 I'm happy it exists.

02:04:06.000 There's only so many hours in a day, son.

02:04:09.000 That's all I'm saying.

02:04:10.000 I hear you.

02:04:11.000 But at night when you're chilling?

02:04:13.000 Not me.

02:04:15.000 I like to chill to fiction.

02:04:17.000 That's what my favorite shit is.

02:04:18.000 Like what?

02:04:19.000 Give me examples.

02:04:19.000 Like Game of Thrones type shit.

02:04:21.000 Or like Mrs. Maisel.

02:04:23.000 Or any show that I'm...

02:04:24.000 Ozark.

02:04:25.000 Any Stranger Things.

02:04:26.000 Any show that I'm really into.

02:04:28.000 That's what I like to chill with.

02:04:29.000 I like to follow a storyline for years.

02:04:32.000 I like that.

02:04:33.000 It's weird.

02:04:33.000 I'm with you.

02:04:34.000 When I get super...

02:04:35.000 I'm super into Game of Thrones.

02:04:37.000 I watched all the old seasons leading up to this.

02:04:39.000 Yeah.

02:04:40.000 No, it's dope, dude.

02:04:42.000 That's just, it's just like a fun little escape where you're just locked into that.

02:04:46.000 And to me, you know, Paul Mooney said to me once, a long time ago, he goes, if you really want to write, he goes, go get entertained first.

02:04:56.000 And I said, like, how?

02:04:57.000 What do you do?

02:04:58.000 He goes, whatever, go see some music.

02:05:00.000 He goes, go to the movies.

02:05:02.000 He goes, go be entertained.

02:05:04.000 You're entertained and then you're going to want to write.

02:05:06.000 Oh, wow.

02:05:07.000 Yeah.

02:05:08.000 There was great advice that I never heard anybody say before, but it made sense.

02:05:12.000 It's like, go get entertained, and it'll fire you up, and then just take that fire, and then just start creating.

02:05:20.000 It inspires you.

02:05:20.000 Yeah, it's a great piece of advice for young people, because I know there's been many times where I've seen someone murder at the store.

02:05:28.000 Where I couldn't wait to get home and write.

02:05:30.000 I just couldn't wait to.

02:05:31.000 I just wanted to run home and bust out that fucking laptop and come on.

02:05:35.000 What do we got in here?

02:05:36.000 What do we got in that brain?

02:05:38.000 Come on, there's something in there.

02:05:39.000 Do you listen to music when you drive?

02:05:41.000 Sometimes.

02:05:42.000 Depends on if I'm on my way to the gig.

02:05:44.000 If I'm on my way to the gig, I almost always try to listen to last night's set or whatever new shit that I'm working on.

02:05:51.000 To go over it?

02:05:52.000 Not just to go over it, but to examine it.

02:05:55.000 See if there's any way that I want to stop and rewind and maybe slow it down or speed it up or do it different.

02:06:00.000 If I don't take those extra, like say if I do four sets a week but I listen to three sets a week, that's seven sets instead of four sets.

02:06:09.000 And I think that's a difference, like a rep thing.

02:06:12.000 But it's uncomfortable.

02:06:13.000 You don't want to do it.

02:06:14.000 It's annoying.

02:06:15.000 But I think it counts almost as much as doing a set.

02:06:20.000 It's not as much, because doing a set, what happens is you get that spontaneity, and you get the flow, and you get the instinct, the feeling when it hit the punchline.

02:06:30.000 But in the car, it's a mental rep.

02:06:32.000 It's a mental rep, but it's also like a third-party examiner.

02:06:36.000 It's almost like you could watch it from the outside.

02:06:38.000 You could watch it as someone...

02:06:40.000 Well, I guess it would be second-party.

02:06:41.000 You'd watch it as someone watching you.

02:06:44.000 And you'd go, huh, this is clunky.

02:06:46.000 Why are you saying this like this?

02:06:48.000 If you could just do that and say it like yourself...

02:06:51.000 And say it like yourself, but then listen like you would listen to it, too.

02:06:55.000 Yeah, as a fan, almost.

02:06:57.000 And critique it.

02:06:57.000 Yeah, listen as a person who's also, you know, you do it.

02:07:01.000 You practice it.

02:07:02.000 But sometimes you get caught up in doing something a certain way, and it's hard to break out of the pattern.

02:07:09.000 Yeah.

02:07:11.000 It's like you're comfortable with, like, God, I've got to get into this bit.

02:07:14.000 How do I get into it?

02:07:15.000 And then you'll stumble into this one way, and then you keep doing it that way.

02:07:19.000 When really the right way to do it is to kind of break it down and rebuild it.

02:07:22.000 Like, you know where the funny parts are?

02:07:24.000 Break it down.

02:07:25.000 And I've done that a few times in broken bits where they never worked again.

02:07:27.000 Sometimes it just, they don't bounce back, you know?

02:07:32.000 Yeah.

02:07:33.000 You freaking, at the Ice House, man.

02:07:36.000 You did that because you're getting ready for your 420 show, yeah?

02:07:41.000 Yeah.

02:07:42.000 Is that the biggest crowd you've ever done?

02:07:44.000 Yeah.

02:07:45.000 No.

02:07:45.000 Air Canada Center was bigger.

02:07:48.000 Air Canada Center?

02:07:48.000 That's the Scotiabank Arena.

02:07:50.000 Fuck!

02:07:51.000 In Toronto.

02:07:51.000 Air Canada, is that where...

02:07:53.000 That's where the UFC is.

02:07:54.000 That's right!

02:07:55.000 Yeah.

02:07:56.000 It's the Scotiabank Arena now.

02:07:58.000 It used to be the Air Canada Center.

02:08:00.000 And how many was that?

02:08:01.000 That's like 13,000.

02:08:02.000 Were you on a stage, a Kevin Hart stage?

02:08:05.000 No, no, no.

02:08:06.000 I was on like a regular stage.

02:08:07.000 Is San Diego Circa?

02:08:09.000 Yeah, San Diego Circa.

02:08:10.000 God, I find it awkward, man.

02:08:12.000 Watching it, I find it awkward.

02:08:13.000 It's going to be weird, son.

02:08:15.000 I mean, obviously you're going to kill it, but I find it awkward.

02:08:17.000 Yeah, I'm excited.

02:08:18.000 I think Joey Diaz is doing 420 in Milwaukee.

02:08:23.000 Joey Diaz is the best.

02:08:26.000 Can't get enough of that dude.

02:08:27.000 No, I love Joey.

02:08:29.000 So happy he's around.

02:08:30.000 He's one of the most important...

02:08:31.000 You know what he's doing right now, right?

02:08:32.000 I don't think I can say it on air.

02:08:34.000 Don't say it then.

02:08:36.000 Oh yeah, I do know.

02:08:38.000 I don't think he can say it, no.

02:08:39.000 I don't think he's announced it.

02:08:40.000 It's amazing though.

02:08:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:08:42.000 Can't say that.

02:08:43.000 But you know, yeah.

02:08:44.000 Yeah.

02:08:44.000 So cool.

02:08:45.000 He's one of the most important figures in the stand-up world today, in my opinion.

02:08:51.000 He's one of the most...

02:08:53.000 Free guys.

02:08:54.000 If you look at...

02:08:56.000 If there was a style of...

02:08:58.000 Say there's a style of jiu-jitsu, right?

02:09:01.000 Where one guy's just always catching triangles on people.

02:09:05.000 Super aggressive and always catching triangles.

02:09:07.000 Like, how is this guy always catching...

02:09:09.000 And it sort of changes your perception of how often someone can catch someone in a triangle.

02:09:15.000 Joey is so fucking loose.

02:09:17.000 He changes your perception of what's loose.

02:09:21.000 Like he moves the needle.

02:09:25.000 That's rare!

02:09:26.000 I think Bill Burr does that, too.

02:09:27.000 He moves the needle, too.

02:09:28.000 Like, with Bill, and maybe it's because I'm around Brian, and Brian's always like, you know, you gotta be careful if you say this stuff, especially in the culture side right now, you gotta be careful with this.

02:09:37.000 I'm like, yeah, maybe.

02:09:38.000 So I've started, like, almost reserved, and then Burr went up at the Laugh Factor, and I was like, oh, shit, you can do that?

02:09:45.000 Yeah.

02:09:47.000 Yeah, he's on fire right now.

02:09:49.000 He just filmed.

02:09:50.000 He just filmed some special.

02:09:53.000 Did he really?

02:09:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:09:54.000 He's kind of come out with a...

02:09:55.000 I don't know if I should say anything.

02:09:57.000 A while ago, though, right?

02:09:58.000 Because the stuff he did now is all new.

02:10:01.000 Well, I don't know if I'm supposed to be saying this.

02:10:05.000 Did I give something away?

02:10:06.000 I don't know.

02:10:09.000 I don't know if that's been announced, so I'm going to shut my mouth.

02:10:11.000 Either way.

02:10:13.000 Murderer.

02:10:14.000 He's one of the best of all time.

02:10:17.000 No fucks given at all.

02:10:19.000 Yeah, he's...

02:10:22.000 He's uniquely free.

02:10:23.000 He was making the comics in the back and we were just watching like, what the fuck?

02:10:28.000 He makes hilarious points too.

02:10:30.000 They're so bold.

02:10:31.000 So bold.

02:10:32.000 That's how he started.

02:10:33.000 He's just sticking with his guns.

02:10:35.000 That's what he is.

02:10:35.000 That's who he is.

02:10:36.000 That's who he is.

02:10:37.000 I see a lot of guys navigate away from that because they're afraid of offending people.

02:10:41.000 And then Burr gets up and he's like, shut the fuck up.

02:10:43.000 Well, people are taking comedy as much more of a statement than if you wrote a movie where some fucked up things happen.

02:10:53.000 And that's probably coming too if they let people take comedy.

02:10:56.000 They'll probably go after that next.

02:10:59.000 It kind of falls in line with what could be next.

02:11:03.000 But if you decide that someone's saying something...

02:11:06.000 That they actually mean that, and they shouldn't be able to say that, even though it's funny and it made people laugh, and the guy's clearly joking.

02:11:13.000 Especially when you try to use it in print.

02:11:17.000 It's a slippery slope.

02:11:19.000 You're running up a greased hill, because then why is Quentin Tarantino allowed to write a movie where a bunch of people get killed?

02:11:28.000 Why is he allowed to write a movie that might incite violence?

02:11:31.000 Why is he allowed to write a movie where people use racial slurs and shoot people over nothing?

02:11:35.000 Why is he allowed to write that movie?

02:11:37.000 Oh, it's all Quentin Tarantino?

02:11:39.000 So he's responsible for this whole movie.

02:11:40.000 Fuck that.

02:11:41.000 We gotta boycott him.

02:11:43.000 And that kind of nonsense is an episode of fucking South Park.

02:11:46.000 That's what's going on in this world.

02:11:47.000 I think it's swaying back the other way.

02:11:50.000 It could sway back the other way, but you gotta realize we could take a little break and then have it come back hard again.

02:11:54.000 Maybe.

02:11:55.000 Or the guys like Louis C.K. who's selling out everywhere and doing great comedy.

02:12:00.000 He could sell out fucking Staples Center right now multiple times in a row.

02:12:04.000 What's crazy is he doesn't want to.

02:12:05.000 Doesn't want to.

02:12:06.000 He's just doing comedy clubs.

02:12:07.000 Just working.

02:12:09.000 Yeah.

02:12:11.000 He could easily come back like Tiger Woods.

02:12:14.000 Easily.

02:12:15.000 Easily.

02:12:15.000 Right now.

02:12:17.000 He said something so fucked up, too.

02:12:19.000 Because they asked me why I did it.

02:12:20.000 He goes, I like to jerk off and I don't want to be alone.

02:12:22.000 Yeah.

02:12:25.000 I like to jerk off and I don't like to be alone.

02:12:31.000 He's great, man.

02:12:32.000 I mean, he also did some creepy shit.

02:12:34.000 He definitely did.

02:12:35.000 He did some creepy shit.

02:12:36.000 I don't approve of it, but he didn't molest anyone.

02:12:38.000 I don't think we know exactly what happened either.

02:12:41.000 No, no.

02:12:42.000 But all I do know is he could sell out Staples Center.

02:12:45.000 Yeah.

02:12:46.000 Because I think most guys and fans go, alright, man.

02:12:50.000 And he's really good at comedy.

02:12:52.000 Yeah, that's the other thing.

02:12:53.000 The other thing that we always have to think about whenever we talk about anything is that we're dudes.

02:12:58.000 And so whenever you're talking about someone jerking off in front of you, just imagine...

02:13:02.000 A woman jerking off in front of us?

02:13:04.000 No, you can't because that's not the same.

02:13:06.000 The only reason why a girl can jerk off in front of you and it's hilarious is because she can't rape you.

02:13:13.000 See, if a guy is jerking off in front of you, most guys are bigger and stronger than most women.

02:13:19.000 Obviously, there's some variables there.

02:13:21.000 but most guys are bigger and stronger and men make all the rape women aren't out there raping dudes true right it's all men so if a guy has his dick out and he's jerking off scary shit that's why it's scary it's never it's creepy yeah if a girl if you go over a girl's house and for whatever reason she goes i want you to watch this sit down and fucking you fucking fuck she starts fingering herself fucking and you're like whoa yeah but you would laugh you would laugh

02:13:49.000 and you would come back to here and we would talk about it because i know i could get out at any time yeah We'd be crying laughing.

02:13:56.000 But it wouldn't be like you were in danger.

02:13:58.000 But if a guy is with, say if you have a daughter, and your daughter weighs 110 pounds, and she's with a guy, and the guy wants to jerk off in front of her, and he has to do it, and she says yes because she's scared.

02:14:13.000 Fuck.

02:14:13.000 Then it's like, what would actually happen?

02:14:15.000 And see, he hasn't really said anything other than the stories are true.

02:14:21.000 And, you know...

02:14:24.000 This comes from a guy that sounds like, you know, because you have two daughters.

02:14:27.000 Yeah, well, it's...

02:14:28.000 So you have to think like that.

02:14:29.000 Well, you have to think like that as a human being, right?

02:14:32.000 Yeah, but I'm saying to you, it's probably the first thing you think of because you have two daughters.

02:14:35.000 Right, but I don't think that's what he did.

02:14:37.000 I think from...

02:14:39.000 I can't say too much because I don't know, but...

02:14:44.000 I think he did some regrettable things.

02:14:46.000 And I think he would admit that.

02:14:48.000 But I don't think he did what a lot of people are claiming he did in terms of...

02:14:52.000 That's what I've heard.

02:14:53.000 ...how often he did it or who he did it or what the circumstances were.

02:14:56.000 But either way, there's no defending when it was bad.

02:15:00.000 No, it's not good.

02:15:01.000 I'm sure it scared the girls.

02:15:02.000 It's a terrible thing to do.

02:15:04.000 But...

02:15:06.000 What's the punishment for that?

02:15:07.000 Did he not pay for it?

02:15:10.000 He lost all his jobs?

02:15:11.000 Lost all his TV deals?

02:15:13.000 $35 million in a year of work.

02:15:15.000 And people still say, no, but he's fine.

02:15:18.000 I've heard that argument, that he's fine.

02:15:22.000 These are also things that he did more than a decade ago, right?

02:15:27.000 When do you offer someone compassion?

02:15:29.000 When do you let someone explain themselves?

02:15:32.000 When is enough is enough?

02:15:34.000 Or should he have to do something?

02:15:36.000 What would people like someone to do when they're coming back from something like that?

02:15:39.000 Well, I think they're mad because there's only a year, and then he's back and killing it because he's so good at comedy.

02:15:44.000 Because with Tiger Woods, right?

02:15:46.000 People hated Tiger.

02:15:47.000 Well, there was that, but there was also the material that got leaked when he came back.

02:15:51.000 So people were upset at the jokes, the Parkland joke.

02:15:54.000 Yeah.

02:15:55.000 Not the best.

02:15:56.000 That shit falls in line with how he's always done jokes, though.

02:15:59.000 Whether he did this or not.

02:16:01.000 He says the fucked up thing to say.

02:16:04.000 It's part of what makes him really funny.

02:16:05.000 And he does that in real life, too.

02:16:07.000 It's a style of comedy, man.

02:16:11.000 I mean, it's just like Quentin Tarantino has a style of making movies.

02:16:15.000 His style of comedy is to say fucked up things.

02:16:17.000 So that compounded the fact that people were upset at him that a year ago he said he was going to take some time off.

02:16:24.000 I think it's really important to know that I don't know what happened.

02:16:30.000 He knows and they know.

02:16:34.000 It's never good when someone's upset that you jerked off in front of them.

02:16:37.000 That's not a good time.

02:16:39.000 Which is never good for anybody.

02:16:41.000 But also, him losing $35 million and being out a year, I think people are upset that it was such a quick turnaround.

02:16:47.000 Is that a quick turnaround, man?

02:16:49.000 Not as a comic, but to the normal person.

02:16:53.000 Like, a year?

02:16:54.000 That ain't shit, dude.

02:16:55.000 But as a comic, not to be able to do what you love.

02:16:57.000 Let's imagine that he's going to live another 50 years.

02:17:02.000 Right?

02:17:03.000 A year.

02:17:04.000 A year out of 50. Yeah.

02:17:07.000 It's like 2%, right?

02:17:08.000 Yeah.

02:17:08.000 It's a lot.

02:17:09.000 It's a lot.

02:17:10.000 And a lot of money.

02:17:11.000 Yeah.

02:17:12.000 Now compare this to TJ Dillashaw.

02:17:15.000 Two years.

02:17:18.000 He's 31?

02:17:20.000 Yeah.

02:17:21.000 135-er?

02:17:22.000 Not a lot of fights left.

02:17:24.000 No.

02:17:24.000 Two years is almost a death sentence.

02:17:26.000 It might be.

02:17:27.000 Is that fair?

02:17:29.000 That's a good question.

02:17:32.000 I mean the real question is, would he have even been able to pursue that weight class?

02:17:40.000 What you were saying in terms of having the advantage of the EPO. I wonder if he would have been able to pursue training the same way.

02:17:49.000 In hindsight, what a terrible idea.

02:17:52.000 I don't know what the thought process was, but it's definitely not good.

02:17:59.000 It doesn't take away from how talented and skillful he is as a fighter.

02:18:03.000 If that's the only time he did it, it's kind of understandable.

02:18:06.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:18:08.000 If that's the only time...

02:18:10.000 But I think, honestly, all bullshit aside, I think you are right as far as don't test anybody else.

02:18:15.000 Don't go back and test everybody.

02:18:17.000 No.

02:18:18.000 Unless you want to spend a lot of money.

02:18:21.000 One of the things they were saying that to test everyone for EPO would cost an additional $2.5 million a year.

02:18:27.000 Something ridiculous like that.

02:18:28.000 I might have made those numbers up.

02:18:29.000 Listen, stop doing that.

02:18:30.000 Divide that money amongst the fighters.

02:18:32.000 Ooh.

02:18:32.000 Give them the money.

02:18:33.000 How often do you test?

02:18:34.000 Don't care.

02:18:35.000 Give the fighters more money.

02:18:37.000 What Staubman and Kelvin did, and Max Holloway and Dustin Poirier, they should be set for quite some time.

02:18:44.000 But here's the thing.

02:18:45.000 If we look over the history, and really our only testing pool would be Conor McGregor, who never has to fight again.

02:18:52.000 Nate Diaz, I guess you could throw into that.

02:18:53.000 Who they make life-changing money.

02:18:55.000 They don't fight a lot, do they?

02:18:57.000 No, and here's the question.

02:18:58.000 Because if you give...

02:18:59.000 I'm sorry, I don't mean to interrupt you.

02:19:01.000 But let's say, you know, if you give certain fighters $20 million, they're like, you want me to do what now?

02:19:07.000 And they don't fight.

02:19:08.000 Right.

02:19:08.000 So if you're Dana, you're like, listen, look at Connor, look at Nate Diaz.

02:19:12.000 When they get this boatload of money, we can't get them to fight.

02:19:16.000 They have power.

02:19:17.000 The sport's too hard.

02:19:19.000 Right.

02:19:19.000 They won't do it.

02:19:20.000 Hmm.

02:19:21.000 That's interesting.

02:19:22.000 I know.

02:19:23.000 So to keep them hungry...

02:19:25.000 We gotta pay him this.

02:19:26.000 It's so fucked up.

02:19:27.000 I'm not saying it's the right thing to do.

02:19:29.000 But I'm saying, if you're Dana, from his standpoint, you're like, when they get fat and happy, they don't fight.

02:19:33.000 that way?

02:19:33.000 They really think that way?

02:19:35.000 I don't think that's the case.

02:19:36.000 You don't?

02:19:37.000 I think it's a side effect of making boatloads of money but I think they try to make boatloads of money because it doesn't happen very often.

02:19:42.000 It only happens with a Ronda Rousey or a Conor McGregor or some gigantic huge star like a Nate Diaz.

02:19:48.000 You have to be a gigantic huge star.

02:19:50.000 Yeah, but that's rare.

02:19:51.000 There's so few of those guys.

02:19:53.000 There's so few of those.

02:19:54.000 The idea that you would try to pay people less because you want to keep them hungry because if they become giant superstars and they're not hungry, then they stop fighting.

02:20:04.000 Then we're not paying more.

02:20:05.000 They have the capabilities.

02:20:06.000 So what you're saying is, pretend they're not giant superstars, even when they are.

02:20:10.000 No, the giant superstars still get paid, but they also have crazy demands.

02:20:14.000 They want to fight who they want to fight.

02:20:16.000 They want to do it when they want to do it.

02:20:18.000 There's all sorts of jockeying going on back and forth.

02:20:21.000 I mean, I don't know what happened with Nate Diaz and Dustin Poirier, but they were supposed to fight, remember?

02:20:27.000 They were supposed to fight, and then Dustin got hurt.

02:20:28.000 And Dustin got injured.

02:20:29.000 So Nate was scheduled for a fight, and he's never pulled out of a fight that he's been scheduled for, as far as I can remember.

02:20:34.000 No, he was going to fight that fight, and then when it happened, they made other offers.

02:20:38.000 You're just like, oh, I'm good.

02:20:39.000 Right, but let's imagine that if Dustin Poirier did not pull out of that fight, what if he did fight Nate Diaz, and what if Nate Diaz beat him?

02:20:47.000 Then Nate Diaz could very well have fought Max Holloway.

02:20:50.000 Maybe.

02:20:51.000 On Saturday night, yes.

02:20:52.000 Maybe.

02:20:52.000 Yeah, if you paid him enough.

02:20:54.000 Maybe.

02:20:54.000 I'm sure he would.

02:20:55.000 They might have decided to make that shit happen, you know?

02:20:57.000 And you know what?

02:20:58.000 I bet it would have been...

02:21:00.000 That was it.

02:21:00.000 That was the face-off.

02:21:02.000 I bet that would have been a very entertaining fight, too.

02:21:05.000 Oh, my God.

02:21:06.000 Oh, my God.

02:21:06.000 Max and Nate Diaz?

02:21:07.000 Both guys have insane cardio.

02:21:09.000 Fuck, yes.

02:21:10.000 Insane volume striking.

02:21:11.000 That would be an incredible fight, man.

02:21:14.000 Fuck, that would be a great fight.

02:21:15.000 Great fight.

02:21:16.000 That would be a great fight.

02:21:18.000 Yeah, Max and Nate would have been insane.

02:21:20.000 But Max was going to fight Dustin Poirier, and he could be...

02:21:23.000 Look, that would be a big fight.

02:21:24.000 Dustin Poirier, if he doesn't fight Khabib, if for whatever reason they decide to go with Nate over Khabib...

02:21:30.000 They're not.

02:21:31.000 They're going to do Khabib next.

02:21:33.000 In September.

02:21:34.000 Well, maybe Khabib fights the winner, or the winner, rather, fights Nate.

02:21:39.000 That could be possible, too, if he really still wants to get back in there.

02:21:42.000 Or Tony Ferguson, Nate.

02:21:44.000 Yeah.

02:21:45.000 God damn it.

02:21:46.000 Keiji's still in the mix.

02:21:48.000 I mean, Keiji, he's deep in the mix.

02:21:52.000 Super deep in the mix.

02:21:53.000 That knockout of Barbosa, he's so excited.

02:21:55.000 I think he's right at number four now.

02:21:56.000 He's right there.

02:21:57.000 How can you deny that?

02:21:58.000 I mean, what a fucking division, man.

02:22:01.000 Amazing.

02:22:02.000 What a fucking division.

02:22:03.000 It's crazy.

02:22:05.000 How about that dude in 1FC that knocked out Alvarez?

02:22:08.000 I know.

02:22:10.000 Nasty Yukin.

02:22:11.000 What a crazy name, too.

02:22:12.000 How about Mighty Mouse, though?

02:22:13.000 Getting the win.

02:22:14.000 Yeah.

02:22:14.000 I'm still waiting for Sage Northcutt to fight.

02:22:17.000 Yeah.

02:22:17.000 No shit, right?

02:22:18.000 He has a tough fight, too.

02:22:19.000 He's fighting Cosmo Alexander.

02:22:20.000 Yeah, he has a tough fight.

02:22:21.000 Dude.

02:22:22.000 Cosmo's no punk.

02:22:23.000 That dude's a nasty Muay Thai fighter.

02:22:25.000 That guy beat John Wayne Parr.

02:22:26.000 He's really, really good.

02:22:27.000 Yeah, he's built like an Adonis, too.

02:22:29.000 That's going to be a best bod contest.

02:22:31.000 First team, all body.

02:22:33.000 Yeah, that's first team.

02:22:34.000 First team, both of them.

02:22:35.000 Dangerous fight for Sage Northcutt while they're standing.

02:22:38.000 If he can't take it to the ground.

02:22:40.000 I mean, Sage is a very good striker and he's very fast.

02:22:43.000 Cosmo, world class.

02:22:45.000 He's something special.

02:22:46.000 He's something special.

02:22:47.000 Nasty, nasty Muay Thai, man.

02:22:49.000 Monster.

02:22:50.000 Yeah.

02:22:51.000 Big guy, too.

02:22:53.000 He's jacked.

02:22:54.000 He's thick.

02:22:55.000 Sage is such a nice kid.

02:22:57.000 Could be nicer.

02:22:58.000 Couldn't be nicer.

02:23:00.000 It's almost fake.

02:23:01.000 Were you surprised that the UFC let him go?

02:23:05.000 No.

02:23:06.000 I'm not surprised by anything the UFC does.

02:23:08.000 Not surprised.

02:23:09.000 They don't need anyone.

02:23:11.000 I thought they were grooming him.

02:23:12.000 Me too, and put a lot of marking behind him.

02:23:14.000 They're like, fuck it, we're good.

02:23:15.000 We're going ESPN, we're good.

02:23:17.000 So...

02:23:19.000 What do you think the future is going to be like?

02:23:21.000 Do you think there's going to be that this is going to be how it is for most sports?

02:23:25.000 That they're going to be watching on apps?

02:23:27.000 Do you think they'll ever have that for the NFL? Oh, 100%.

02:23:30.000 It's the future.

02:23:31.000 The UFC is just, yeah.

02:23:33.000 The last two years, Thursday night games have been on, or at least last year was on Amazon Prime.

02:23:38.000 They were on Twitter too.

02:23:40.000 They were on Twitch for a little while.

02:23:41.000 They were on Twitter last year.

02:23:42.000 So they're doing all sorts of stuff.

02:23:44.000 The NBA has talked about moving towards being maybe on Twitch.

02:23:48.000 They've even talked about short interseason.

02:23:50.000 They're doing different stuff.

02:23:51.000 They just had a big conference about that.

02:23:53.000 The UFC made the smart move.

02:23:54.000 It's a smart move.

02:23:55.000 They're smart because they're getting out way ahead.

02:23:57.000 That's what it is.

02:23:58.000 I feel like once everyone's TV is hooked up to the internet, because right now it's not everyone.

02:24:05.000 It's a lot of people, but it's not everybody.

02:24:07.000 It's going to be everybody.

02:24:09.000 For sure.

02:24:10.000 Dude, I gotta roll.

02:24:11.000 I gotta get to my kiddo.

02:24:12.000 It's 6pm.

02:24:12.000 I know, man.

02:24:13.000 Brandon motherfucking shop.

02:24:15.000 I love you, man.

02:24:15.000 Thank you for coming.

02:24:16.000 I love you too, brother.

02:24:16.000 You're the best, dude.

02:24:17.000 That was fun.

02:24:17.000 Hey, we're doing a show together.

02:24:18.000 We are, man.

02:24:19.000 When are we doing that show?

02:24:19.000 That shit sold out, though, right?

02:24:21.000 Sold out.

02:24:21.000 Both of them sold out.

02:24:22.000 Ha-ha!

02:24:23.000 I'm in Arizona, though, next week.

02:24:24.000 Friday, Saturday.

02:24:25.000 Where you at, son?

02:24:25.000 Stand up live, dog.

02:24:26.000 Phoenix, Arizona.

02:24:27.000 Beautiful.

02:24:28.000 Phoenix, Arizona.

02:24:29.000 Stand up live.

02:24:30.000 Then after that, Tampa.

02:24:31.000 tfatk.com.

02:24:33.000 All right, brother.

02:24:34.000 Good night.

02:24:35.000 See you soon.

02:24:35.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - December 15, 2010

JRE MMA Show #62 with Brendan Schaub

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